1 00:00:05,100 --> 00:00:07,967 All right, welcome to the meeting of city council. We are at frisco city hall, the georgia pure 4 municipal center and council 2 00:00:09,133 --> 00:00:11,267 chambers, 6101 frisco square boulevard in frisco, texas. It 3 00:00:13,567 --> 00:00:17,167 is 511 p.m. On tuesday, march 17, 2026, and I will call the meeting to order. We are joined 4 00:00:18,200 --> 00:00:22,200 by the entire council this evening. That moves into closed session. Item 2, recess into closed session in compliance with section 5 00:00:23,067 --> 00:00:26,000 551.001, texas government code, item a, section 551.071, meeting with the city 6 00:00:27,133 --> 00:00:29,967 attorney. Regarding a matter in which the duty of the city attorney under the texas 7 00:00:31,267 --> 00:00:35,133 disciplinary rules of professional conduct of the state bar of texas conflicts with the open meetings act 8 00:00:36,733 --> 00:00:40,133 regarding 1. Receive legal advice regarding proposed interlocal agreement with collin county, texas, and other political subdivisions 9 00:00:41,267 --> 00:00:43,967 for the use of the collin county animal shelter and related issues. Item b, 10 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,733 section 551.072, to deliberate the purchase, exchange, lease, or value of real property. Located 1, 11 00:00:50,700 --> 00:00:53,700 north of stonebrook, west of preston, east of dallas-north, tollway, and 12 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,600 south of el dorado. And item two, north of el dorado, west of preston, east of dallas, 13 00:00:59,600 --> 00:01:02,833 north tollway, and south of pga parkway. And item c, section 551.087, deliberation 14 00:01:05,233 --> 00:01:08,267 regarding commercial or financial information that the city has received from a business prospect. Or 15 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:12,033 to deliberate the offer of a financial or other incentive to a business prospect I have a 16 00:01:14,033 --> 00:01:16,100 motion. Motion by brian. Second. Second by laura. All 17 00:01:18,100 --> 00:01:20,000 in favor? Aye. Passes 6-0. Recess an executive session at 5-12. All right, council, 18 00:01:29,067 --> 00:01:32,167 can I have a motion to reconvene? Motion by bryan, second by byrd. All in favor? Aye. That passes 6-0. 19 00:01:35,100 --> 00:01:38,767 as a result of executive session, there is no action for council to take. And we are reconvened at 6.31 p.m. And I will turn it 20 00:01:41,033 --> 00:01:44,333 over to laura for the invocation and the pledge. Good evening, everybody. This 21 00:01:46,767 --> 00:01:49,967 evening, our invocation will be provided provided by jessica skidmore, 22 00:01:51,767 --> 00:01:54,800 pastor and executive leader at elevate life church, where she serves as the executive 23 00:01:55,867 --> 00:01:59,733 director of experience. She oversees key areas of ministry and helps shape the overall 24 00:02:01,067 --> 00:02:03,767 experience of the congregation. She is also married and has children. Elevate life church, 25 00:02:06,233 --> 00:02:09,133 also called the cathedral of frisco, is a non-denominational church founded 26 years ago 26 00:02:11,100 --> 00:02:14,300 by lead pastors keith and sheila craft. Thank you and welcome for praying 27 00:02:16,167 --> 00:02:19,733 for us today. Thank you. It's truly an honor to be here, 28 00:02:21,033 --> 00:02:24,100 representing elevate life church and serving our community by offering tonight's 29 00:02:25,633 --> 00:02:28,567 invocation. So good evening, mayor. And all the council and everybody, the guests here 30 00:02:30,433 --> 00:02:34,367 today. So please join me as we bow our heads in prayer. Heavenly father, we come before you tonight 31 00:02:35,433 --> 00:02:39,133 with hearts full of gratitude. We invite your presence into this place and ask that you preside 32 00:02:40,733 --> 00:02:43,600 over this meeting. Thank you for being a god who loves us and for the unique purpose and 33 00:02:45,500 --> 00:02:49,200 gifts you've placed within each of us. Thank you for the opportunity to serve our neighbors and 34 00:02:50,567 --> 00:02:53,267 to be good stewards of the people, the resources, and the responsibilities 35 00:02:54,733 --> 00:02:58,567 entrusted to the city. Tonight, we lift up our mayor, our council members, and every member 36 00:02:59,800 --> 00:03:02,500 of our city staff. We thank you for their service and dedication to this community. 37 00:03:04,000 --> 00:03:06,733 we ask for your provision, your favor, your protection over each of them 38 00:03:08,533 --> 00:03:11,567 and their families. Lord, grant them wisdom beyond their understanding. 39 00:03:12,833 --> 00:03:15,800 give them strength and courage to do what is right and what serves the common good 40 00:03:17,167 --> 00:03:21,167 of all citizens. May every decision be guided by integrity, humility, and a genuine care 41 00:03:22,467 --> 00:03:25,267 for the people they represent. As they consider the agenda before them tonight, 42 00:03:27,167 --> 00:03:29,867 we ask that you guide their thoughts, conversation, and decisions. Bring clarity 43 00:03:31,900 --> 00:03:35,200 where there are challenges and inspire creativity as solutions are discussed. Help this 44 00:03:37,067 --> 00:03:41,000 meeting to be productive and fruitful. Give them a spirit of unity as they work together toward the shared mission 45 00:03:42,100 --> 00:03:45,400 of serving the city well. Direct their words, decisions, and actions towards the right 46 00:03:46,633 --> 00:03:50,167 path. We thank you, lord, for the many people who serve and strengthen our community. And 47 00:03:52,267 --> 00:03:55,200 all those that work each day to make this place we call home 48 00:03:56,700 --> 00:03:59,567 such a wonderful city. May the city continue to flourish. May its people be blessed, 49 00:04:00,967 --> 00:04:04,233 its leaders be guided, and may peace, wisdom, and prosperity rest upon this community. We 50 00:04:05,633 --> 00:04:07,000 give you thanks and praise. In jesus' name, amen. Amen. 51 00:04:09,667 --> 00:04:13,467 thank you. Next for our pledge, we have boy scout troop 216, if you 52 00:04:15,700 --> 00:04:15,700 wouldn't mind coming to the 53 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:22,200 stage. I pledge allegiance 54 00:04:40,100 --> 00:04:43,267 to the flag of the united states of america and to the republic for which it stands, 55 00:04:45,133 --> 00:04:47,867 one nation under god, indivisible, with liberty and 56 00:04:51,333 --> 00:04:55,067 justice for all. Honor the texas flag; I pledge allegiance to thee, 57 00:04:56,733 --> 00:04:59,267 texas, one state under god, one and indivisible. 58 00:05:03,167 --> 00:05:06,333 alright well thank you all you'll hang out there for just one moment. 59 00:05:09,467 --> 00:05:11,833 we always like to welcome our scouts. Thank you all for being here with us tonight. And I'd 60 00:05:14,367 --> 00:05:17,467 love to give you all the opportunity to introduce yourselves and ask 61 00:05:18,600 --> 00:05:20,933 kind of one burning question. So here's kind of the gig. 62 00:05:23,833 --> 00:05:27,167 it's just your name, your grade, school. And your tough question for tonight is, so 63 00:05:29,233 --> 00:05:31,067 today is our city manager wes pearson's birthday. And 64 00:05:40,033 --> 00:05:43,433 unfortunately, he's spending it with us working. So to make him feel even worse, 65 00:05:44,900 --> 00:05:48,033 I want you to say for your next birthday, where you would like 66 00:05:48,933 --> 00:05:51,433 to spend it in frisco. What would be your favorite place or favorite thing that you could 67 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:54,567 be doing on your birthday? That wes can sit over here and 68 00:05:59,500 --> 00:06:03,367 wish he was doing tonight? Sorry, wes. You guys ready? You can pass it. So name, age, 69 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,167 school. You could do your birthday anywhere in frisco. 70 00:06:09,700 --> 00:06:11,567 my name is ian, I'm in fifth grade and I'm ten years old 71 00:06:15,267 --> 00:06:15,267 and the mall? Yeah, sure. You 72 00:06:31,300 --> 00:06:31,300 like the mall? My name's 73 00:06:38,100 --> 00:06:41,367 ayanch. I'm in fifth grade, I'm 10, and I'll spend it playing tennis 74 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:46,900 at my tennis academy. My name is austin, I'm 75 00:06:48,400 --> 00:06:52,100 in ninth grade, I go to reedy high school, and I would go rock climbing at canyons rock 76 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,233 climbing gym. Hi, my name is vishnu, and I'm 11, and I go to lawler middle school, and I 77 00:07:00,200 --> 00:07:03,300 would spend my birthday at like, main event or pinstock. My name is pritish. 78 00:07:08,267 --> 00:07:11,700 I'm in sixth grade. I go to lawlor middle school and if I could spend my birthday anywhere, I would go to ifly 79 00:07:13,100 --> 00:07:16,333 indoor skydiving. My name is arya patap. I'm 13 years old. I 80 00:07:18,700 --> 00:07:22,133 go to pioneer heritage middle school and I'd probably like to spend my birthday 81 00:07:23,367 --> 00:07:27,100 at home playing video games. Hi, my name is chris. I'm 82 00:07:28,700 --> 00:07:32,700 in eighth grade and I'm 13. I go to clark middle school and I'd like to go to pinstack and 83 00:07:34,167 --> 00:07:37,033 spend time with my friends on my birthday. Hi, my name is arav. I'm in 10th grade and I'm 84 00:07:38,667 --> 00:07:41,467 currently going to richland high school. If I could celebrate my birthday anywhere, 85 00:07:42,900 --> 00:07:45,500 I'd be celebrating at home with my family because they're the ones who appreciate me most. 86 00:07:49,100 --> 00:07:51,600 my name is aditya. I'm in 10th grade and I go to richland high school. And I 87 00:07:53,267 --> 00:07:56,633 don't have a specific place, but I'd probably go somewhere nice to eat for my birthday. I 88 00:07:59,600 --> 00:07:59,600 would actually love in frisco 89 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,033 to go to one of the beautiful parks that frisco offers. We're going 90 00:08:19,033 --> 00:08:22,867 to try to squeeze. There you go. Y'all three kind of move up there. There we go. We have to face your fans 91 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:26,600 over here. Alright, let's thank 92 00:08:47,833 --> 00:08:51,233 our scouts again. We have some frisco pins for y'all. I'm going to hand you to make you 93 00:08:52,433 --> 00:08:54,600 in charge, but thank y'all for being here. Much appreciated. Thank you. 94 00:09:00,700 --> 00:09:04,200 alright, we have a couple proclamations tonight. One is to celebrate cindy lemus, 20 95 00:09:05,967 --> 00:09:08,200 years of service. So, cindy and anyone that would like to join 96 00:09:10,300 --> 00:09:12,767 you, make your way up come on, bring the whole crew. Come on, 97 00:09:14,667 --> 00:09:14,667 everyone. All right, and it 98 00:09:31,100 --> 00:09:34,633 reads, whereas cindy lima began her service to the city of frisco in 2005 as an accountant temp in the old city hall 99 00:09:36,700 --> 00:09:39,933 building. Before moving into a full-time role in 2006 as a customer service 100 00:09:41,867 --> 00:09:45,000 representative and central cashier in revenue collections. And whereas in 2011, cindy 101 00:09:47,867 --> 00:09:51,200 brought her talents to accounts payable, where her reliability, accuracy, and deep knowledge of 102 00:09:53,300 --> 00:09:56,833 the field became indispensable. In 2019, she was promoted to senior accounting 103 00:09:58,233 --> 00:10:01,767 technician, a role in which she continues to excel. Through her expertise, 104 00:10:02,667 --> 00:10:05,033 professionalism, and steadfast commitment to ensuring smooth and efficient 105 00:10:06,700 --> 00:10:09,967 operations. And whereas cindy embodies a spirit of joy and connection through cherished traditions, 106 00:10:11,467 --> 00:10:14,033 whether cheering on her grandchildren at their sports and activities, 107 00:10:15,567 --> 00:10:19,367 creating memories while making gingerbread houses, enjoying peaceful days at the lake property, 108 00:10:20,833 --> 00:10:24,233 or rocking out at classic rock concerts. And whereas her contributions 109 00:10:25,667 --> 00:10:28,533 extend far beyond her job duties, as she is known for elevating holiday celebrations, 110 00:10:29,767 --> 00:10:32,933 especially easter, where she serves as the department's expert egg hider, and 111 00:10:34,367 --> 00:10:36,900 for brightening the workplace in thoughtful trinkets, 112 00:10:38,867 --> 00:10:42,867 spontaneous bubble machine moments, and an ever-present supply of dr. Pepper. How come you've 113 00:10:43,733 --> 00:10:47,267 never brought this to council meetings? And whereas cindy's willingness to support her team, 114 00:10:48,300 --> 00:10:51,433 her generosity of spirit, and her dedication to both her family and the city of frisco make her a treasured 115 00:10:52,633 --> 00:10:55,833 colleague and a shining example of service. Delivered with heart. She is recognized 116 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:01,200 for her exceptional service, her vibrant spirit, and the positive impact she makes each 117 00:11:02,733 --> 00:11:06,633 day. Her legacy of dedication, joy, and kindness continues to inspire all who have the 118 00:11:07,967 --> 00:11:11,167 privilege of working alongside her. Now, therefore, I, jeff chaney, mayor of the city of 119 00:11:12,300 --> 00:11:15,700 frisco, on behalf of the city council, do hereby bestow special recognition for 20 years of service dedicated 120 00:11:17,167 --> 00:11:20,800 to the city of frisco. And proclaim march 17, 2026, as cindy lima day. Testing. 121 00:11:54,467 --> 00:11:57,667 okay, this is my husband danny and my son chad. And I have a daughter, but she thought 122 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:00,733 her trip to mexico was more important. You 123 00:12:04,033 --> 00:12:06,400 know. She's watching online. Probably not. She's probably 124 00:12:08,400 --> 00:12:11,733 at the beach. I mean, you know. You have another 20 years left in you? I'm getting 125 00:12:14,067 --> 00:12:16,467 on up there. I don't know. I'll try. How about that? That. 126 00:12:18,133 --> 00:12:19,767 alright, let's thank cindy and family one more time. 127 00:12:35,533 --> 00:12:35,533 alright, we have a twofer 128 00:12:47,833 --> 00:12:50,000 tonight, so hank johnson celebrating 20 years. Man, 129 00:13:09,300 --> 00:13:11,600 thank goodness this guy didn't run for mayor of council. We'd be in trouble. Popular. All 130 00:13:15,233 --> 00:13:18,233 right. Whereas henry or hank? Johnson began his service 131 00:13:19,833 --> 00:13:23,067 to the citizens of frisco on march 27, 2006, and currently serves as crew leader in 132 00:13:24,767 --> 00:13:28,733 frisco public works meters division. And whereas hank johnson's life has been marked not only by dedicated work, 133 00:13:29,800 --> 00:13:33,367 but by passions that enrich the spirit. His commitment to our community began long 134 00:13:34,967 --> 00:13:38,200 before joining the city. Including three years serving the youth of frisco 135 00:13:39,700 --> 00:13:42,267 at the boys and girls club. And continued contributions through his work with primmo 136 00:13:44,033 --> 00:13:47,167 school, berry best academy, and petty ann's flowers on main street. And whereas, 137 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:51,800 since joining the city of frisco in 2006, hank johnson has exemplified loyalty, 138 00:13:53,467 --> 00:13:57,467 reliability, and perseverance, consistently demonstrating a strong work ethic and 139 00:13:58,867 --> 00:14:02,500 unwavering dedication to the community. Whereas, amongst his greatest 140 00:14:03,667 --> 00:14:07,567 accomplishments are his daily acts of purpose, positivity and kindness, brightening the days of those 141 00:14:09,067 --> 00:14:12,300 around him. Henry is known for embracing life's joys, smoking fine cigars, listening 142 00:14:14,233 --> 00:14:16,900 to music, gathering with friends, and playing the drums. 143 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,867 he's the most interesting man in the world. Jeff chaney, 144 00:14:30,000 --> 00:14:33,333 mayor of the city of frisco, on behalf of the city council, do hereby bestow special recognition for 20 145 00:14:34,400 --> 00:14:37,733 years of dedicated service to the city of frisco. And proclaim march 17th, 2026, as 146 00:14:40,233 --> 00:14:41,800 hank johnson day. Let's hear it for hank. Well, I didn't know I 147 00:15:03,500 --> 00:15:06,033 was going to be sharing with cindy lima, so it would be lima johnson. Sound 148 00:15:09,733 --> 00:15:12,667 like a law firm. Well, I want to thank all my family that 149 00:15:15,433 --> 00:15:16,800 made it. Fuego family back there smell like cigars. 150 00:15:21,433 --> 00:15:25,233 but yeah, I just want to give this day to my parents who are not here. You know, my dad passed away 151 00:15:28,867 --> 00:15:32,867 december of 20 years this year. And my mom, the day 152 00:15:33,967 --> 00:15:37,700 before my birthday in 2007, bestowed all this upon me 153 00:15:39,033 --> 00:15:42,933 to give to y'all. And I bet some of y'all are like, 154 00:15:44,267 --> 00:15:44,267 they gave him the microphone. 155 00:15:49,033 --> 00:15:52,400 yeah, I was like, yeah, wes, I told you. But no, yeah, 156 00:15:55,567 --> 00:15:59,433 it's been a good 20 years. And just to let you know, I changed my name to frisco 157 00:16:00,733 --> 00:16:00,733 king. And also, I am the mayor 158 00:16:06,800 --> 00:16:06,800 of frisco square. So thank 159 00:16:18,067 --> 00:16:21,267 y'all for being here. Those of y'all can make it. And people on youtube, I see you. 160 00:16:25,467 --> 00:16:27,900 well, thank y'all and have a great evening. Be safe when y'all get to your homes. Come 161 00:16:50,833 --> 00:16:51,867 on, alright, let's hear it for hank one more time. All 162 00:17:31,933 --> 00:17:35,067 right, we have one more proclamation. This is to celebrate our 163 00:17:36,033 --> 00:17:39,900 north texas community and mayor's cleanup challenge. We've got our team coming up 164 00:17:47,867 --> 00:17:50,267 here. Hank's a tough show to follow, but I'm confident. 165 00:17:58,667 --> 00:18:02,433 all right, the proclamation reads, whereas the north texas community cleanup challenge, otherwise known as 166 00:18:03,767 --> 00:18:06,833 ntccc, is an annual region-wide litter cleanup competition 167 00:18:08,167 --> 00:18:12,000 organized by the north central texas council of governments. That encourages 168 00:18:13,267 --> 00:18:16,467 the north texas communities to work together to reduce litter, beautify the neighborhoods, and protect 169 00:18:18,433 --> 00:18:21,867 environmental quality. And whereas? The city of frisco's environmental services and sustainability division has 170 00:18:23,100 --> 00:18:25,933 proudly participated in the north texas community cleanup challenge in previous years, 171 00:18:27,500 --> 00:18:30,133 demonstrating its ongoing commitment to environmental stewardship, community pride, 172 00:18:31,733 --> 00:18:35,333 and sustainability. And whereas? The 2026 fifa world cup has established several 173 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,267 sustainability initiatives in advance of the global sporting event, 174 00:18:41,467 --> 00:18:45,200 including tree planting efforts and community litter cleanup activities. And whereas fifa 175 00:18:46,333 --> 00:18:46,333 has partnered with netcog 176 00:18:51,967 --> 00:18:54,900 on the fifth annual north texas community cleanup challenge, further highlighting 177 00:18:56,200 --> 00:18:58,867 the importance of environmental responsibility and community engagement on both a regional 178 00:19:01,300 --> 00:19:04,267 and international scale. And whereas the 2026 north texas community cleanup challenge 179 00:19:07,500 --> 00:19:10,267 will take place from march 1st through may 31st, 2026, providing residents, 180 00:19:12,300 --> 00:19:15,400 volunteers, and organizations an opportunity to come together to remove litter and improve local 181 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:21,500 environments. And whereas participation in this event fosters civic engagement, 182 00:19:22,933 --> 00:19:25,700 promotes environmental awareness, and regional collaboration, 183 00:19:26,967 --> 00:19:30,833 with the mayor's challenge, the city of frisco demonstrates its support of the next north texas community cleanup 184 00:19:32,100 --> 00:19:35,400 challenge, and it encourages residents, organizations, and businesses to take on an active role in keeping 185 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:40,500 north texas clean. Now, therefore, I, jeff chaney, mayor of the city of frisco, do 186 00:19:41,433 --> 00:19:44,300 hereby recognize the months of march through may 2026 as the north texas community and 187 00:19:46,300 --> 00:19:49,300 mayor's cleanup challenge month. So, thank y'all. Hi 188 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:02,033 everyone, my name is jackie sudeiky. I serve as the city's sustainability manager. We invite you all to participate 189 00:20:05,133 --> 00:20:07,133 in our clean it and green it earth day litter cleanup event, 190 00:20:09,433 --> 00:20:13,100 taking place on april 18th. It supports this community cleanup challenge. Bring your family, 191 00:20:15,067 --> 00:20:18,267 your friends, your neighbors. We invite you all. We supply all the materials. We will pick 192 00:20:20,167 --> 00:20:21,700 up your litter, weigh it, and you'll take part 193 00:20:24,367 --> 00:20:25,833 in keeping frisco clean. Thanks everyone. All right, 194 00:20:43,033 --> 00:20:44,100 let's thank our environmental services team again. All right, 195 00:21:10,433 --> 00:21:12,867 council, that will move us to to item seven, which is council 196 00:21:14,700 --> 00:21:16,367 comment or acknowledgement of proclamations issued 197 00:21:18,867 --> 00:21:22,100 since our last meeting. Anything noted? I just want to wish everybody a very happy 198 00:21:25,067 --> 00:21:27,300 st. Patrick's day. Traditional way to say, you know, may the 199 00:21:30,167 --> 00:21:31,667 sun always shine to your face, may the wind 200 00:21:34,200 --> 00:21:37,500 always be to your back, and may god hold you in the palm of his hand. And with that, please be safe tonight if you 201 00:21:38,933 --> 00:21:42,133 go out and celebrate. And if you've had one too many to celebrate today. Definitely 202 00:21:43,300 --> 00:21:44,967 call an uber, get a ride from somebody else. Okay, that 203 00:21:49,867 --> 00:21:52,367 will take us to our report section. Item 8 is our visit frisco report. 204 00:21:58,300 --> 00:22:02,167 good evening, mayor and council. You probably noticed that january was a little bit slow, and part of that had 205 00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:07,567 to do with fcs not being here, but also the week of ice that we had. Really killed 206 00:22:08,733 --> 00:22:12,667 a lot of group business, but I did see our february report this morning and it 207 00:22:13,633 --> 00:22:17,567 looked really strong, so we'll have better numbers to reflect. I also wanted to just say a note of congrats 208 00:22:18,667 --> 00:22:22,400 to our marketing team. They launched a drip campaign mid january to our convention 209 00:22:24,100 --> 00:22:25,833 client database, which was about 5,800. And right off, 210 00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:33,200 just today, we've had 143 leads. And after lost business, 211 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:39,000 we still have about 80 that we're targeting. So it's been really successful, and it's going to continue 212 00:22:39,800 --> 00:22:43,233 over the course of the next couple of months. So it's a new initiative that we haven't done before, 213 00:22:45,900 --> 00:22:49,233 so we're really proud of them for working with our sales team to get that launched. Other 214 00:22:49,967 --> 00:22:53,700 than that, I'm happy to answer any questions you may have. All right. Counsel, what questions do you have? 215 00:22:56,867 --> 00:23:00,800 okay. Thank you. That takes us to item nine, our development services report. Good evening, 216 00:23:06,167 --> 00:23:10,000 mayor and council. Ralandria russell with development services. You all have our february report 217 00:23:12,300 --> 00:23:15,867 in your packet and I'm happy to answer any questions. All right. Council, what questions 218 00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,000 do you have on the development report? All 219 00:23:21,300 --> 00:23:24,467 right. Thank you. Item 10 is our fire department monthly report. Good evening, 220 00:23:31,300 --> 00:23:33,400 mayor and council. Lee glover, fire chief. On march 221 00:23:36,300 --> 00:23:39,167 2nd, 2026, frisco fire department amended a peak 222 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,600 demand ambulance program that will operate daily between the hours of 8 a.m. 223 00:23:46,967 --> 00:23:48,900 and 8 p.m. The peak demand program will increase our total 224 00:23:51,433 --> 00:23:53,933 ambulance count from 7 to 8 for a 12-hour period that it's 225 00:23:56,433 --> 00:24:00,433 in service. This decision was made following the continuous increase in ambulance call volume over the last six months. 226 00:24:01,333 --> 00:24:04,367 we expect this unit to provide relief to the entire ems system during our busiest time frame 227 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:10,700 of the day. And we will continue to monitor this monthly. Looking at our data to make sure that it's still the right 228 00:24:12,267 --> 00:24:14,933 thing to do. Junior citizens fire academy application period 229 00:24:18,933 --> 00:24:22,767 will open on april 1st. This program is designed for middle school age students who live 230 00:24:24,700 --> 00:24:28,367 in frisco or attend frisco schools. Similar to our citizens fire academy, this 231 00:24:31,000 --> 00:24:33,367 program gives students a front row seat in the frisco fire department operations, 232 00:24:35,133 --> 00:24:36,500 training, and normal a day functions. 233 00:24:39,667 --> 00:24:42,833 this program is free to attend and runs between the hours of 9 and 3 p.m. Each day and concludes 234 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:47,867 with a graduation on each friday at noon that we invite family and friends to come to the graduation. These 235 00:24:51,300 --> 00:24:53,833 classes will be offered on june 1st through the 5th and june 8th through the 12th. If 236 00:24:57,700 --> 00:25:01,500 you'd like to attend, please go to friscofire.com and go to the program section and go 237 00:25:03,133 --> 00:25:05,267 down to the link for the junior citizens fire academy. 238 00:25:09,767 --> 00:25:11,800 we'd also like to remind all of our citizens about our free cpr aed 239 00:25:14,833 --> 00:25:18,667 awareness class and stop the bleed classes. We offer it on the third wednesday 240 00:25:20,100 --> 00:25:23,533 of each month from 630 to 9 p.m. Stop the bleed occurs on odd months. And cpr and aed 241 00:25:26,233 --> 00:25:27,300 awareness is on even months. Again, if you would like 242 00:25:30,267 --> 00:25:32,367 to attend one of these classes, go to friscofire.com and register 243 00:25:34,767 --> 00:25:37,333 online. With that, you have our february report. 244 00:25:39,233 --> 00:25:42,067 I'd be happy to answer any questions. All right. Thank you 245 00:25:43,267 --> 00:25:45,100 for the report. Counsel, any questions? Thank you, chief. 246 00:25:49,167 --> 00:25:49,167 and item 11 is our police 247 00:25:59,700 --> 00:26:03,533 department report. Good evening, mayor and council. David chilson, chief of police. I'll start with, you 248 00:26:04,833 --> 00:26:07,333 were sent our latest bias-based profiling report. This is a 249 00:26:09,433 --> 00:26:11,900 report that we're required to submit to the state 250 00:26:13,733 --> 00:26:17,400 by law, but one of the things that we're very proud of. At the police department is we 251 00:26:18,900 --> 00:26:22,233 were doing this report long before it was required by law. So this is the 22nd 252 00:26:25,033 --> 00:26:28,367 year that we've submitted this report, and really just some highlights 253 00:26:30,333 --> 00:26:34,267 from it. You can see, year over year the numbers are very similar. One thing that we did 254 00:26:36,467 --> 00:26:39,467 notice in our report was we did have an increase in racial profiling complaints. 255 00:26:41,300 --> 00:26:44,267 however, that increase, all those complaints were... 256 00:26:46,567 --> 00:26:50,133 unfounded, and so certainly something that we will continue to monitor and be very 257 00:26:52,167 --> 00:26:55,633 transparent about. This report is available to the public, 258 00:26:57,567 --> 00:27:01,200 you can scan that qr code, it's also available off of our website, and you can see the previous versions of the 259 00:27:02,433 --> 00:27:02,433 report as well. I also wanted 260 00:27:06,667 --> 00:27:10,167 to highlight we recently had our annual awards banquet and many of you were there, 261 00:27:12,067 --> 00:27:15,300 had a chance to be there. We don't ever want to take for granted the great work that the 262 00:27:17,233 --> 00:27:20,933 men and women of our police department do, both sworn and non-sworn. 263 00:27:23,033 --> 00:27:25,967 really, just some highlights from the evening were the six life-saving awards that we 264 00:27:28,467 --> 00:27:32,433 honored. All of those officers involved in that, as well as all the award recipients in the various 265 00:27:34,333 --> 00:27:37,333 categories that we had. Really want to highlight the chief's 266 00:27:39,067 --> 00:27:41,100 unit award, which was our training division. And one of 267 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:46,600 the reasons that that unit received the chief's unit award this year was, 268 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:52,267 as I'm sure you're aware, we started our first police academy here in frisco. And 269 00:27:53,433 --> 00:27:57,433 that was a huge lift for our training division. They took it on, and we have 270 00:27:59,133 --> 00:28:02,333 already started our third police academy. So we were in our third class. So that 271 00:28:03,700 --> 00:28:07,600 group, very hardworking. That was a big project, and they continue to make each 272 00:28:09,467 --> 00:28:13,100 academy class better. I also want to highlight the chief's award for service that we 273 00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,800 recognized our it department. Certainly, it's not just about public safety, 274 00:28:20,833 --> 00:28:23,933 it isn't just about the people in our department, it's the partnerships that we have with 275 00:28:24,900 --> 00:28:28,500 our other city departments. And our it department has been instrumental in guiding us 276 00:28:30,500 --> 00:28:32,633 through what has been the biggest technology project 277 00:28:37,700 --> 00:28:41,700 in our city's history. As we changed from one computer aided dispatch system and records management system to another 278 00:28:43,933 --> 00:28:47,567 system. And this was a huge lift, didn't just affect us, affected the fire department as 279 00:28:49,233 --> 00:28:52,667 well, and so they helped get us through that transition. We're still learning our new system, 280 00:28:54,633 --> 00:28:58,267 but it is providing us a lot more functionality than we've ever had. And that will pay big 281 00:29:00,900 --> 00:29:04,067 dividends to public safety. Here in frisco, which we're very proud of, 282 00:29:04,933 --> 00:29:08,267 couldn't have done it without our it department, and last but not least, we say 283 00:29:11,267 --> 00:29:13,867 that opportunity lives here in frisco. Coming up on the 27th, we will celebrate 284 00:29:15,367 --> 00:29:18,933 the latest promotions within our department, and we will swear 285 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:22,533 in another set of officers. And so just a way that we 286 00:29:25,733 --> 00:29:28,133 welcome and recognize those that are being promoted and those that are just joining us. 287 00:29:30,067 --> 00:29:33,500 so certainly want to make sure that everybody has a chance to attend that if they want. If you can't be here, 288 00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:37,300 it's also live streamed on facebook. With that, you have our february report. 289 00:29:39,067 --> 00:29:42,700 I'll be happy to answer any questions. Thank you, chief. Thank you. Thank you. Okay, and item 12 is our 290 00:29:49,133 --> 00:29:49,133 rail district update. Good 291 00:29:56,500 --> 00:29:59,767 evening, mayor and council. Jason brodigan, director of engineering services. Just to provide a quick update 292 00:30:00,900 --> 00:30:04,067 on construction in the rail district. The aesthetic features on main street keep kind 293 00:30:05,167 --> 00:30:09,133 of rolling in. You should see planter boxes now, and I believe trash cans were delivered and installed today. 294 00:30:11,067 --> 00:30:14,867 we won't be able to take credit for this, but when the trees start to bud here in a couple 295 00:30:15,933 --> 00:30:19,133 of weeks, it's gonna look even better. For 4th street plaza, concrete 296 00:30:20,533 --> 00:30:23,900 pours are continuing, which will help us get the brick pavers in. It's a really big 297 00:30:25,133 --> 00:30:28,867 step. In the next week, we ought to start seeing the support columns 298 00:30:30,900 --> 00:30:34,300 for the shade structure start to arrive. And finally, the parking garage is still working 299 00:30:35,733 --> 00:30:38,733 on the facade, the mep, the mechanical, electrical, 300 00:30:39,967 --> 00:30:42,967 plumbing, and then it started the hardscape on 3rd and 5th streets. So good 301 00:30:46,467 --> 00:30:50,333 progress being made, starting to look really good. I'm happy to answer any questions you may have on the construction. 302 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,733 when will the plants start going in the flower pots? I don't have an answer 303 00:30:57,667 --> 00:31:01,167 for that question yet, but I will get it. All right. I'm going to bug you every time. Are we 304 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,633 still on track for the plaza? We are on track. We will be done by june. We will be done. 305 00:31:07,433 --> 00:31:07,433 okay. Good answer. Yes, ma'am. 306 00:31:18,333 --> 00:31:22,333 okay, good evening, mayor and council. A quick update on the gift card program. It's expired. Yeah, it's expired. 307 00:31:23,900 --> 00:31:27,900 the gift cards have all been redeemed, or they're in the process 308 00:31:28,867 --> 00:31:32,233 of being redeemed back to the chamber or a third-party administrator. As you can see at the bottom, 309 00:31:33,100 --> 00:31:36,733 the grand total so far is over $400,000 worth of physical gift cards have been redeemed 310 00:31:39,233 --> 00:31:43,133 at participating businesses in the rel district. The digital gift card program, 311 00:31:46,033 --> 00:31:49,300 the bonus card program portion of it, has expired. Approximately $548,000 have 312 00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:55,500 been redeemed, total. Of that, 232 are gift cards that do not expire, and 313 00:32:01,067 --> 00:32:04,733 315,000 gift cards were the bonus gift cards that do expire, that have expired. Our 314 00:32:07,567 --> 00:32:11,500 advertising program, again, this is static, but $123,000 in direct investment. 315 00:32:12,900 --> 00:32:15,167 since this program went live. And we'd continue with the 316 00:32:17,667 --> 00:32:21,233 digital marketing efforts for the billboards. So as a 317 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,500 reminder, we talked about this at the winter work session. Our near term goals, as jason 318 00:32:28,967 --> 00:32:32,533 mentioned, is finished construction, kick off the downtown circulator, 319 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,933 complete all the work downtown, and begin to pivot towards, 320 00:32:39,233 --> 00:32:41,533 you know, redevelopment efforts. The long term strategy is 321 00:32:43,767 --> 00:32:47,367 activation of events, implementing leasing strategy for the garage, retail, 322 00:32:49,500 --> 00:32:53,400 and other city-owned buildings, define and implement the governance structure, 323 00:32:56,067 --> 00:32:59,367 and evaluate downtown circulator pilot. So these are kind of the goals 324 00:33:01,167 --> 00:33:02,933 for fiscal year 27 and beyond. So next steps, excited to talk 325 00:33:06,067 --> 00:33:09,667 about the next steps. We're going to roll out another digital gift card program 326 00:33:11,133 --> 00:33:14,700 beginning june 1st. And also help market that to world cup traffic that's coming to 327 00:33:16,967 --> 00:33:20,067 frisco. We're going to roll out the advertising grant program on april 15th. We're looking 328 00:33:21,267 --> 00:33:24,133 to do a mural on the side of the old city hall, the former school of rock building. 329 00:33:25,500 --> 00:33:27,900 we're talking about downtown circulator beginning in june, once the garage is complete. 330 00:33:30,967 --> 00:33:33,333 we continue to have discussions in coordination with the rail district advisory board, rail 331 00:33:35,967 --> 00:33:38,800 district roundup, and merchants on main, formerly the save main group. We talk 332 00:33:40,567 --> 00:33:43,933 about budget discussions for special events, holiday decorations, programming, and 333 00:33:45,233 --> 00:33:48,867 the activations I mentioned above. And also, a forthcoming will be an april 334 00:33:50,900 --> 00:33:53,900 work session, a deep dive into the special events planned for the 4th street plaza. So, 335 00:33:56,133 --> 00:34:00,100 with that, I'm happy to answer any questions you may have. You can still go out and buy a gift card. Just 336 00:34:01,867 --> 00:34:05,367 no bonus match, not until june 1st. We did notice when we started the program, initially 337 00:34:08,267 --> 00:34:11,800 in november, that there was a huge rush of excitement. So we want to time that excitement june 1st with the grand opening 338 00:34:13,167 --> 00:34:14,300 events that we're having downtown. Right, right. 339 00:34:17,700 --> 00:34:19,067 council, any questions for ben? Ben, can you just expound 340 00:34:22,133 --> 00:34:25,033 a little bit so that the public knows what you mean by downtown circulator? We're 341 00:34:27,733 --> 00:34:27,733 evaluating an electrical 342 00:34:32,567 --> 00:34:35,700 vehicle, it's a large bus. Capacity up to 18 people, ada 343 00:34:38,100 --> 00:34:41,500 compliant, accessible, and the general path would be the 344 00:34:42,500 --> 00:34:45,733 parking garage. Downtown on come down elm street, if you can visualize, to north 345 00:34:47,567 --> 00:34:50,233 county, along main street, to rollertown, and may even go 346 00:34:52,133 --> 00:34:56,067 beyond into simpson plaza, past toyota stadium. So that would be the circulator that we're 347 00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:57,200 evaluating. Thank you. Okay, 348 00:35:04,267 --> 00:35:07,300 council. Item 13 is council subcommittee reports. Any 349 00:35:09,467 --> 00:35:09,467 updates? So for those 350 00:35:15,867 --> 00:35:19,100 of you who did not make it out to the work session earlier, this is a continuation from 351 00:35:20,867 --> 00:35:24,300 efforts at the cog and the rtc. We will be working 352 00:35:26,433 --> 00:35:30,433 with dcta very quickly to bring some public transportation to frisco, so specifically 353 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,667 for areas. That need help. So, senior citizens that are living in frisco lakes, 354 00:35:38,400 --> 00:35:40,633 in the grove, as well as students, all members of our 355 00:35:42,500 --> 00:35:45,933 community will have access to a beta test. And really, really want to thank brian 356 00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:50,000 moen, jason brodigan, the city staff for bringing this up 357 00:35:52,133 --> 00:35:54,200 to light. So that should help with people. And the second thing is. We are currently also 358 00:35:57,767 --> 00:36:01,433 working to get flood mitigation dollars from the state of texas to provide relief 359 00:36:02,800 --> 00:36:06,600 for you areas in frisco that could be flooded. So wes and team are definitely on it. So 360 00:36:08,233 --> 00:36:11,033 wanted to give that update from the rtc. And yes, the item mentioned will be 361 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:17,533 on an april agenda, where there will be a full presentation for the contract with dcta. 362 00:36:20,033 --> 00:36:23,933 all right, that will move us to our consent agenda. Items placed on the consent agenda are considered routine in nature and are considered 363 00:36:25,367 --> 00:36:29,200 non-controversial. The consent agenda can be acted upon in one motion. The majority of the council is required 364 00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:33,933 to move any item for discussion in separate action. Council members may vote nay on any single item 365 00:36:34,900 --> 00:36:38,700 without comment. You may submit written comments as part of the official record. And council, you have 14 through 27 for consideration. Motion 366 00:36:41,500 --> 00:36:44,833 by laura. Second. Second by angelia. All in favor? Aye. 367 00:36:46,033 --> 00:36:49,933 that motion passes 6-0. Legislative agenda. These items may legally require council 368 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,233 action, but by council policy should be the city manager's responsibility. The legislative 369 00:36:55,967 --> 00:36:58,633 agenda can be acted upon on one motion. The concurrence of two council members is 370 00:37:00,333 --> 00:37:03,767 required to move any item for discussion and action. Council members may vote nay on any single item 371 00:37:04,667 --> 00:37:07,800 without comment and may submit written comments as part of the official record. There's one item, council, item 372 00:37:09,967 --> 00:37:09,967 28. Motion by laura. Second. 373 00:37:14,067 --> 00:37:17,400 second by angelina. All in favor? Aye. That motion passes 6-0. That'll move us 374 00:37:21,900 --> 00:37:24,500 to our regular agenda. Item 29 is consider an act upon adoption of an ordinance 375 00:37:26,100 --> 00:37:28,933 amending frisco's code of ordinances number 06-03-31, as amended, chapter 2, article 2, 376 00:37:30,467 --> 00:37:34,100 division 1, section 2-19. Article 3, section 2-76, rules or procedures for the conduct 377 00:37:40,767 --> 00:37:44,233 of public testimony at meetings, modifying certain rules of procedure for the conduct 378 00:37:45,033 --> 00:37:48,700 of public testimony at meetings of the city council, boards, commissions, and committees of the city of 379 00:37:50,467 --> 00:37:54,067 frisco. Good evening, marion city council. Ken schmidt, director of special projects for the city. So, the rules 380 00:37:56,500 --> 00:38:00,100 of procedure for public testimony were initially established in the late 1980s. And they 381 00:38:02,167 --> 00:38:05,567 were applied to the conduct of testimony at city council, board, commission, and 382 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,367 committee meetings. Recently, council gave direction to staff to consider updates 383 00:38:12,700 --> 00:38:16,667 to the rules of procedure, and as a result, staff facilitated several work sessions 384 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,067 with council. Addressing themes related to speaker duration and registration procedures, 385 00:38:24,133 --> 00:38:26,467 frequency and timing of public testimony 386 00:38:28,667 --> 00:38:31,733 on non-agenda items, and additional rules of decorum. For the ordinance 387 00:38:35,267 --> 00:38:38,433 that is before you tonight, for your consideration, it addresses several updates 388 00:38:40,467 --> 00:38:44,167 related to speaker duration. Most notably, it proposes a reduction 389 00:38:45,533 --> 00:38:48,400 in speaker duration from five minutes to three minutes for testimony 390 00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:52,167 on both agenda and non-agenda items. For speakers that 391 00:38:54,567 --> 00:38:57,167 require a translator, it proposes a proportional 392 00:38:58,967 --> 00:39:01,733 reduction from ten minutes to six minutes for those speakers. This 393 00:39:03,433 --> 00:39:06,533 proposed ordinance also eliminates an existing ordinance provision that 394 00:39:08,367 --> 00:39:11,567 provides discretion to the presiding bodies. To reduce speaker time 395 00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:16,067 on a single agenda item based on the number of speakers who wish to speak 396 00:39:17,333 --> 00:39:18,633 on that item. For speakers on non-agenda items, this 397 00:39:21,867 --> 00:39:23,967 ordinance limits those speakers to three minutes 398 00:39:26,233 --> 00:39:28,900 of speaking time in total, regardless of the number of people they wish 399 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:30,600 to speak on. This ordinance 400 00:39:35,267 --> 00:39:37,267 also addresses speaker registration procedures. 401 00:39:39,300 --> 00:39:42,900 specifically, it transitions our speaker registration process from a paper form filled 402 00:39:45,133 --> 00:39:48,000 out prior to or during the meeting to an online registration form 403 00:39:49,433 --> 00:39:51,300 to be completed prior to the start of each meeting. 404 00:39:53,500 --> 00:39:56,833 it does provide for reasonable accommodations to be made by the city 405 00:39:59,733 --> 00:40:02,600 secretary's office for members of the public. Who may need assistance with that process. 406 00:40:04,633 --> 00:40:06,200 outside of the ordinance, as part of our administrative 407 00:40:09,233 --> 00:40:11,833 standards and procedures, the city secretary's office will provide for promotional 408 00:40:13,400 --> 00:40:16,833 materials, as well as administrative standards to support the online 409 00:40:18,400 --> 00:40:20,933 registration process if this ordinance were to be approved. This ordinance 410 00:40:23,967 --> 00:40:26,600 also addresses the topic of placement of citizen input 411 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,533 on the council agenda. For agenda items, 412 00:40:32,833 --> 00:40:35,900 it clarifies that process in that it provides speakers opportunity to speak 413 00:40:37,767 --> 00:40:40,533 on specific agenda items, either before or at the time 414 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,233 of consideration of that agenda item, but not at both times. This codifies 415 00:40:50,700 --> 00:40:54,400 our existing process, and I will note that this was a change that occurred 416 00:40:56,033 --> 00:40:59,167 after the agenda packet was. Posted specifically to account 417 00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:04,967 for the during the agenda item component that does provide 418 00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:08,967 additional opportunity for speakers to address 419 00:41:11,900 --> 00:41:14,867 during the agenda item. So that refinement was an improvement 420 00:41:16,367 --> 00:41:18,867 to what was originally included in the agenda packet. 421 00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:24,767 for non-agenda items, it defines an opportunity for speakers to speak 422 00:41:26,667 --> 00:41:30,533 on those items at the end of the meeting. Where a citizen 423 00:41:33,133 --> 00:41:36,100 input session would be defined at the end of the council agenda, with the exception 424 00:41:38,300 --> 00:41:42,100 of regular council meetings. And consistent with current practice today, 425 00:41:44,033 --> 00:41:47,300 public testimony at all other city meetings would be limited to testimony on specific agenda 426 00:41:49,133 --> 00:41:52,733 items. The proposed ordinance also provides for additional 427 00:41:55,800 --> 00:41:59,467 rules of decorum, specifically prohibitions against disruptive and unruly 428 00:42:01,167 --> 00:42:04,767 behavior, to include the disruptive use of props, threatening speech 429 00:42:06,100 --> 00:42:09,067 not protected by the first amendment. The use of electronic devices 430 00:42:10,333 --> 00:42:13,933 to impede or disrupt a meeting, physically approaching the presiding body more closely 431 00:42:15,500 --> 00:42:18,833 than the room is set up to accommodate, or displaying a sign, placard, 432 00:42:20,733 --> 00:42:24,033 poster, or banner in the meeting room. This does not include shirts or apparel 433 00:42:26,467 --> 00:42:28,700 that may communicate a message. This also addresses a process 434 00:42:31,500 --> 00:42:33,567 for treatment of decorum violations, 435 00:42:35,733 --> 00:42:39,533 beginning with a warning. From the presiding officer of the meeting and identifying the 436 00:42:41,033 --> 00:42:44,800 specific violation. And if that individual does not correct 437 00:42:46,867 --> 00:42:50,700 their violation of the rules of decorum, the presiding officer will ask a police 438 00:42:53,433 --> 00:42:56,033 officer to remove that individual from the meeting. So staff does 439 00:43:01,267 --> 00:43:04,800 recommend approval. The proposed updates to the public testimony rules 440 00:43:06,533 --> 00:43:10,300 of procedures. These are aligned with best practices in the region, most notably 441 00:43:11,367 --> 00:43:14,667 speaker duration time at three minutes. That is a very common practice in north 442 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:19,600 texas. If you do adopt this ordinance as presented, it would be effective 443 00:43:21,867 --> 00:43:25,367 for your april 7th council meeting. We'd be happy to address any questions that you 444 00:43:27,533 --> 00:43:30,700 have. All right. Well, thank you for the presentation. Some 445 00:43:32,900 --> 00:43:36,333 color I want to add first. Because this isn't just 446 00:43:38,067 --> 00:43:41,567 in a silo. And anytime you're talking about public input, especially 447 00:43:43,067 --> 00:43:44,900 during campaign season, it's fodder for perhaps 448 00:43:47,700 --> 00:43:51,133 political gain or misinformation. So city council receives public input in a number of ways. We do 449 00:43:52,233 --> 00:43:56,067 three town halls a year where we physically call out to every single home in frisco, asking them to listen 450 00:43:57,200 --> 00:44:00,100 in to the town hall. We usually have thousands of people that will listen to 451 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,567 the town hall all the way through. We stream it live on facebook and we also always 452 00:44:05,933 --> 00:44:09,600 invite people to join us in audience. It's an intentional effort we've been doing now 453 00:44:12,233 --> 00:44:15,433 for almost a decade, to try to get input from all four corners of the community. That's just 454 00:44:18,267 --> 00:44:21,533 one item. We have multiple times when we'll actually go 455 00:44:22,833 --> 00:44:26,700 out into the community to solicit input. It could be a scenario where it's a very 456 00:44:29,267 --> 00:44:32,367 specific issue in a part of the city that residents want to point things to. It's maybe 457 00:44:34,267 --> 00:44:38,067 meeting with an hoa. I probably give two dozen presentations a year to various groups with 458 00:44:39,900 --> 00:44:42,900 frisco updates and seeking input. Every part of our decision-making process is a 459 00:44:45,033 --> 00:44:47,200 citizen driven process. So it starts with our comprehensive 460 00:44:50,133 --> 00:44:53,733 plan, which we just had a citizen body who solicited input, along with consultants 461 00:44:55,233 --> 00:44:56,467 and surveys and feedback to build our 2040 comprehensive 462 00:45:00,400 --> 00:45:03,067 plan. And then every decision goes through a variety of committees, all citizen 463 00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,833 appointed committees, whether it's planning and zoning, parks and rec, 464 00:45:09,767 --> 00:45:13,200 and you name can go all down the list, where their entire initiative is to expand our scope 465 00:45:14,367 --> 00:45:17,333 of being able to hear the community and provide additional opportunities 466 00:45:18,667 --> 00:45:22,200 for citizen input. Council then does many things on their own. I can say this entire council 467 00:45:24,567 --> 00:45:28,200 will spend time meeting with residents at coffee shops for long-form discussions or 468 00:45:29,733 --> 00:45:33,200 meeting them in their home. During campaign season, walking and knocking doors, 469 00:45:35,300 --> 00:45:38,033 listening to the needs of the community. Many people 470 00:45:40,700 --> 00:45:44,233 don't want to speak in front of a council meeting. I'd say, probably the citizen input is probably the tool used the 471 00:45:46,367 --> 00:45:48,067 least by the community to reach us. Oftentimes, it's 472 00:45:51,367 --> 00:45:53,000 just a simple email that we may get. It may be, you know, 473 00:45:55,700 --> 00:45:58,367 one person articulated an issue very well, so they may send 474 00:46:00,300 --> 00:46:03,367 out. A petition that they want to show support, that they agree 475 00:46:04,500 --> 00:46:08,433 with those points. So kind of the point is, you know, we've always been a city 476 00:46:10,467 --> 00:46:13,300 that wants to seek citizen input, you know, 477 00:46:17,567 --> 00:46:20,600 and have that information for essentially every single decision. I think two years ago 478 00:46:21,667 --> 00:46:24,367 was the first time we actually did a citizen survey, and that's actually going to be 479 00:46:25,800 --> 00:46:28,167 followed up again later this year. So all we're addressing 480 00:46:30,767 --> 00:46:33,600 tonight, all those other outreach where we're both kind of pushing for feedback and 481 00:46:34,900 --> 00:46:37,067 pulling for feedback, will continue. All we're 482 00:46:39,267 --> 00:46:41,900 addressing tonight is official city meetings and how 483 00:46:43,400 --> 00:46:45,433 to handle citizen input during official city business. 484 00:46:49,100 --> 00:46:53,100 and really, as was mentioned in the presentation, we've already had multiple work 485 00:46:53,967 --> 00:46:56,700 sessions, and council has kind of narrowed into a scope of things we wanted to think 486 00:46:59,267 --> 00:47:02,533 about and discuss. Some of them were coming regardless because of our new electronic system, 487 00:47:04,467 --> 00:47:08,167 where we needed to change policies. Be able to kind of manage that. So that was 488 00:47:10,733 --> 00:47:14,167 already on the horizon. And then some of the of the others are just changes 489 00:47:15,467 --> 00:47:18,967 to practices and codifying practices that we've always used during citizen input. 490 00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:24,900 there's probably really only kind of one change for consideration tonight other than practice, 491 00:47:25,733 --> 00:47:29,000 which is the length of time. And I'll just kind of open 492 00:47:32,100 --> 00:47:35,533 with my comments on that. So it's always interesting when you're in the market 493 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,267 for a car, then all of a sudden all you can see on the road is that car. You know, just because you become 494 00:47:43,233 --> 00:47:46,600 more observant of what's happening with you. And so I thought, you know, with this coming up, 495 00:47:48,333 --> 00:47:49,467 it's made me kind of more perceptive. Of our 496 00:47:52,700 --> 00:47:54,800 citizen input process and how we can make it better for the person presenting, 497 00:47:56,767 --> 00:47:58,467 but also for how our meetings operate. 498 00:48:00,900 --> 00:48:04,067 and so last meeting was a great example where we had more than 499 00:48:04,967 --> 00:48:07,233 10 speakers. Show up. And so all of those speakers on that agenda item then went 500 00:48:11,100 --> 00:48:13,367 to the three minute time. And so what I found really 501 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:18,700 fascinating is that usually when we do citizen input, five minutes is a really long 502 00:48:20,533 --> 00:48:23,900 time, and it sounds like a really long time. And so people will struggle because 503 00:48:25,533 --> 00:48:28,400 they feel like they need to fill the time. And so there's usually kind 504 00:48:30,100 --> 00:48:33,867 of what we would call the the academy awards. Beginning part of the presentation where kind 505 00:48:35,467 --> 00:48:38,467 of everyone is thanked and you know, and then maybe kind 506 00:48:41,067 --> 00:48:44,967 of ramble through some points. And then all of a sudden they look up and they're out, 507 00:48:46,567 --> 00:48:50,300 they're out of time. Well, last meeting, I thought we had a lot. Of speakers, and I thought it 508 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:55,633 was actually probably one of the most efficient presentations from a citizen input. Because suddenly three minutes doesn't 509 00:48:56,567 --> 00:48:59,900 sound like.and three minutes is I need to get my points articulated. If someone said one of my points, really well, 510 00:49:01,467 --> 00:49:04,567 I can say an agreeing statement. Like my neighbor bill, really, I agree with him 511 00:49:05,667 --> 00:49:08,400 on that point. Let me focus on some other points. In the past, we've seen 512 00:49:10,100 --> 00:49:13,500 strategies where multiple speakers will want to come in, and they may take 513 00:49:15,367 --> 00:49:17,933 different parts of the presentation. And so it 514 00:49:19,833 --> 00:49:23,233 really kind of, in my mind, made me realize that it actually created a more 515 00:49:24,967 --> 00:49:28,467 effective communication tool, I thought, and the most shocking thing is, when we're at five minutes, I 516 00:49:30,200 --> 00:49:32,533 would say a very high percentage of people run out of time. When we went 517 00:49:34,733 --> 00:49:37,533 to three minutes last meeting, I think 90% of the people of the people finished 518 00:49:39,600 --> 00:49:43,300 in two minutes. Because it just changed the mentality of the presentation that we were giving, and I thought it was a 519 00:49:44,333 --> 00:49:47,100 much better communication. So that's kind of my take on it, but council, we'll just kind 520 00:49:49,400 --> 00:49:52,567 of take these one by one, and the first one is just that duration time. So those are my 521 00:49:53,867 --> 00:49:56,567 thoughts and comments, but I'll look for any other comments or questions. Are we 522 00:50:00,367 --> 00:50:03,467 looking to take public input before we start? Oh, yes, let's do that. Sorry. We do 523 00:50:04,933 --> 00:50:08,700 have three people wanting to speak on this item tonight. So we will start with josh meek, and after that we'll have mark 524 00:50:10,767 --> 00:50:10,767 pyland. All right, mr. Mayor, 525 00:50:17,300 --> 00:50:20,867 city council members, my name is josh meek. I'm a resident here in frisco and my 526 00:50:22,567 --> 00:50:25,067 address is listed there on the blue card. What's going 527 00:50:27,733 --> 00:50:29,967 on? It's been a long time since I've kind of been here consistently, 528 00:50:32,733 --> 00:50:35,700 so back in the rhythm of it. You know, after reading through the proposed ordinance, I do have some comments. You 529 00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:41,233 know, for general public comment, non related, you know, to an agenda item, I think, 530 00:50:42,633 --> 00:50:45,900 you know, three minutes is fair. I think, to your point, I think, to your point, I think, you 531 00:50:47,333 --> 00:50:50,633 know, most of the stuff that gets covered in a public comment during that time, you know, 532 00:50:52,800 --> 00:50:56,533 gets addressed. But I do struggle, honestly, every time. We reduce from five minutes to three minutes whenever we do have 533 00:50:57,933 --> 00:51:00,800 more than 10 speakers, just because a lot of the general public isn't up to date with, you know, 534 00:51:02,100 --> 00:51:05,767 what the rules of practice are. So they come prepared for that five-minute window. 535 00:51:06,567 --> 00:51:10,533 it gets reduced down to three. And, you know I think back to a lot of the times that we've had residents, 536 00:51:12,067 --> 00:51:15,800 you know, recently, with the warehouse there on the south side of 537 00:51:17,167 --> 00:51:20,667 ridgewoods. But, you know, also the residents there of cobb hill when universal park was coming in, 538 00:51:22,300 --> 00:51:25,500 and the residents surrounding harold backus park, you know, with the forest bark dog 539 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:30,533 park. The recent, you know, stuff related to the performing arts center, and, you know, things related 540 00:51:31,700 --> 00:51:35,167 to civil service, collective bargaining and unions, you know, is three minutes for some 541 00:51:36,800 --> 00:51:39,900 of the density. Of these topics to be, you know, is it enough time, you know, three minutes for that 542 00:51:41,567 --> 00:51:43,800 to be allotted? And I would argue that it's not, especially, you know, I think 543 00:51:45,600 --> 00:51:49,333 the reason I'm also up here is really for the citizen, the resident that isn't as informed. You know, they're 544 00:51:50,433 --> 00:51:54,100 showing up and they don't understand the rules and the procedures, which is one of the 545 00:51:55,667 --> 00:51:58,500 things that I was kind of, as I was brainstorming through the process, 546 00:52:00,667 --> 00:52:04,367 is that if there's a way to even kind of hyperlink to the electronic form, which I'm all for. If there is 547 00:52:05,833 --> 00:52:09,200 a way to hyperlink specifically to that form, or however that's going to be submitted, 548 00:52:11,333 --> 00:52:13,800 if there is a way to do that within the actual agenda. But I just don't believe that. Three, 549 00:52:16,267 --> 00:52:19,467 you know, reducing from five minutes to three minutes. And I know it's a practice that we've had, 550 00:52:20,500 --> 00:52:24,500 you know, in, you know, lockstep for a few years now here locally. A lot 551 00:52:25,667 --> 00:52:28,200 of municipalities use it down in austin. Three minutes is used. But since when is frisco 552 00:52:29,733 --> 00:52:32,900 ever conformed? Right. We've been the leader. And you guys are the closest level 553 00:52:34,200 --> 00:52:37,933 of government. To the people. And so, like I said, reflecting back on some of the 554 00:52:38,900 --> 00:52:40,967 public comment that I've heard and seeing, you know, 555 00:52:42,967 --> 00:52:46,433 the public comment reduced down from five minutes to three minutes, I just kind 556 00:52:47,567 --> 00:52:51,567 of struggle with that. And just kind of, you know, conforming that moving forward from here on out, and not even 557 00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:56,733 allowing that opportunity. Obviously, the last council meeting, we had a lot of public speakers. But, you 558 00:52:57,900 --> 00:53:01,800 know, if you only have a handful, allowing them that extra time to me is something that is 559 00:53:04,333 --> 00:53:07,467 supportive of what we should be giving to our residents and to the citizens of frisco. The 560 00:53:08,767 --> 00:53:08,767 only other thing I was kind 561 00:53:12,933 --> 00:53:15,700 of concerned about, too, was related to the times. You 562 00:53:17,133 --> 00:53:20,433 know, the council meetings start at five o'clock. Your average everyday frisco resident is probably not getting 563 00:53:21,867 --> 00:53:25,467 off work yet. Five o'clock, six o'clock, commute time. And I understand there's going to be a component of, you know, 564 00:53:27,033 --> 00:53:30,533 electronic, electronic submission, but. With that, do they understand that they can 565 00:53:31,533 --> 00:53:35,300 do that? Do they show up at a council meeting, there's an agenda item that they wanted to speak about, and now they can't speak 566 00:53:36,100 --> 00:53:39,700 about it? So there's going to have to be a massive amount of education, I think, you know, if we're going 567 00:53:40,833 --> 00:53:43,233 to conform to some of these standards. You know, the other thing that I kind 568 00:53:45,467 --> 00:53:48,167 of struggle with is, you know, myself and my three minutes would have already been up. 569 00:53:50,033 --> 00:53:53,733 but essentially. There's been several times where I have not planned on speaking at a 570 00:53:54,767 --> 00:53:56,767 meeting and I felt inspired or motivated, or compelled. So I've seen other residents also 571 00:54:00,267 --> 00:54:03,200 do that as well. So I struggle with also to kind of I understand the rules and having 572 00:54:05,833 --> 00:54:09,300 an order and structure, but I struggle for that in the moment. Maybe somebody that wasn't brave enough 573 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,800 to speak decided to speak up on a topic or something. Triggered was triggered 574 00:54:14,433 --> 00:54:18,333 in them, and then they felt motivated and compelled to then speak and stand up for their neighborhood. So 575 00:54:19,633 --> 00:54:22,433 there's, I think, a couple of things that I just really struggle with on this. So I 576 00:54:25,267 --> 00:54:28,933 just think that, you know, deliberately, of course, you know, reducing the time is just too much. But there's a couple 577 00:54:30,733 --> 00:54:33,967 courses of action available of action available to you guys tonight. And I'd 578 00:54:35,067 --> 00:54:38,933 ask that you guys continue to edit the ordinance. I don't entirely agree with it 579 00:54:40,767 --> 00:54:44,300 in its entirety, and I do believe that it should be edited. But as always, thank you guys for everything 580 00:54:45,500 --> 00:54:48,133 you do. I know you all come under the gun recently. I watch these meetings. I attend these 581 00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,733 meetings. And one thing that I would love to see more of is more professionalism at this dais and treating each 582 00:54:55,800 --> 00:54:55,800 other like neighbors. So thank 583 00:55:00,833 --> 00:55:04,733 you guys for my time. Thank you. After that, we have shauna sowell. Good evening, 584 00:55:05,700 --> 00:55:08,400 mayor and council. Mark pylative in the hollyhock 585 00:55:09,933 --> 00:55:13,833 section of frisco. First, a couple comments, mayor, to your comments. The city's 586 00:55:17,700 --> 00:55:21,333 getting ready to be a quarter of a million people. And while I know that there are meetings and neighborhoods and 587 00:55:23,933 --> 00:55:27,133 gatherings, and that's all great, but the only other thing that's videotaped that the 588 00:55:28,867 --> 00:55:32,233 masses of this city can see are our town halls and these meetings here. So while you 589 00:55:33,633 --> 00:55:37,400 may have coffee with the mayor, you may have meetings in different communities, 590 00:55:39,267 --> 00:55:41,667 the mass of frisco don't see that. They don't hear what you're talking about. So I 591 00:55:43,467 --> 00:55:46,133 think for us, we have to evolve into a city that's not 30,000 592 00:55:48,267 --> 00:55:50,533 people anymore. It's growing. It's big. And I think that we 593 00:55:52,433 --> 00:55:55,167 need to embrace that and think of different ways to get information out 594 00:55:58,033 --> 00:56:02,033 of the community. I'm okay with the decorum on the ordinance. I think that's fair. I think all persons that address this council and this 595 00:56:03,733 --> 00:56:05,233 body and this chamber should have decorum. I think they all 596 00:56:07,900 --> 00:56:11,100 should behave themselves in a proper manner. But I also believe this ordinance is a 597 00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:15,233 slippery slope. And as josh said, limiting people to three 598 00:56:16,267 --> 00:56:19,567 minutes, you've always had that ability. That's in the current ordinance now. 599 00:56:21,633 --> 00:56:24,967 why make it a mandatory three minutes? If you've got ten or more speakers, 600 00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,400 you've always had the ability to limit that time limit. So I'm not sure why that now 601 00:56:30,200 --> 00:56:32,467 becomes mandatory. Putting non-agenda item speakers 602 00:56:35,467 --> 00:56:38,633 at the end of the meeting, let's just be honest. That is trying to discourage people 603 00:56:39,667 --> 00:56:42,600 from coming here and speaking. What you're saying is, if you have a non-agenda item, 604 00:56:46,367 --> 00:56:48,767 we're going to make you wait to the end of the meeting, when maybe most people have 605 00:56:52,467 --> 00:56:56,300 left, or when you just can't spend here that long, or you're just too tired or whatnot, so we're going 606 00:56:57,867 --> 00:57:01,233 to put you at the end. I mean, that's what this is. Let's just be honest. For once, 607 00:57:02,033 --> 00:57:06,000 let's just be truthful about what we're doing here. That's what we're doing. It's a deliberate attempt to discourage people. 608 00:57:07,400 --> 00:57:09,867 from speaking. This is an issue to limit citizen speech cloaked 609 00:57:13,333 --> 00:57:15,100 in good governance, and that is not what this is. 610 00:57:18,467 --> 00:57:22,467 the job of the council is to listen. That is your job as an elected official. If you 611 00:57:24,300 --> 00:57:27,367 don't want to listen anymore, reconsider your position, because that's why you were 612 00:57:28,767 --> 00:57:30,167 elected. You were elected on transparency and 613 00:57:33,500 --> 00:57:37,367 accountability. But you don't want transparency and accountability because you want the transparent people 614 00:57:38,433 --> 00:57:41,933 to be there in the meeting when no one's here. That's not transparency, and that certainly is not 615 00:57:43,000 --> 00:57:45,533 accountability. Public discourse is an american right. 616 00:57:48,333 --> 00:57:48,333 and limiting free speech by 617 00:57:53,867 --> 00:57:55,600 time and opportunity is wrong. I can't even begin to think 618 00:57:58,700 --> 00:58:02,333 of our people in our country, the men and women, who have sacrificed everything 619 00:58:03,633 --> 00:58:06,833 to give us free speech. And this is a slippery slope of this council to try 620 00:58:08,000 --> 00:58:11,033 to limit that. It's a knee-jerk reaction to february 3rd and some other times when there's 621 00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:16,867 been a lot of speakers here criticizing this council or saying some things that people 622 00:58:18,633 --> 00:58:21,233 did not want to hear. But that's what free speech is about. It's 623 00:58:22,867 --> 00:58:25,867 about not you agreeing with what they have to say, but you defending their right 624 00:58:28,300 --> 00:58:31,133 to say that. And, as josh said, it's comparing us to other cities. I welcome that 625 00:58:32,500 --> 00:58:36,167 comparison. Let's make that comparison because it's working here for 10 years. I can tell you, when there's something 626 00:58:37,633 --> 00:58:40,567 that we want to do, we'll find a city to make that comparison. But when we don't want 627 00:58:41,767 --> 00:58:45,700 to compare with them, we say we're frisco, we're different. I've seen it over a 10-year career here. 628 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:49,733 we'll talk about neighboring cities. Let's have that discussion. We 629 00:58:51,267 --> 00:58:54,967 can talk about that because we want to compare ourselves. Let's do the full comparison because I've got some great 630 00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,167 ideas about how we can be better if we're going to compare with our neighboring cities. 631 00:59:00,567 --> 00:59:03,633 this basically is a solution in search of a problem is what this is. And it is limiting. 632 00:59:06,100 --> 00:59:09,800 let's just be honest. It's limiting people's ability for free speech. It's just we 633 00:59:10,733 --> 00:59:12,600 table this item. This agenda item was posted on march 634 00:59:14,867 --> 00:59:18,833 11th at 5 30 p.m. Let's let other people in this city understand what you're doing 635 00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:24,567 here, and let's have this discussion at this podium and get their ideas as well. Thank you very 636 00:59:26,167 --> 00:59:26,167 much. Next, we have shauna 637 00:59:33,733 --> 00:59:37,633 sowell. Good evening shauna sowell, and you have my address 638 00:59:39,333 --> 00:59:43,333 here in frisco. Many of you know that I spent the first 12 years of my professional career 639 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,667 as a high school government and history teacher and speech and debate coach. One of my 640 00:59:49,733 --> 00:59:53,133 master's degrees also had a heavy emphasis on political speech and first amendment law. So I ultimately 641 00:59:54,733 --> 00:59:57,533 have fairly strong thoughts about free speech and the democratic process, especially 642 00:59:59,867 --> 01:00:01,633 at the local level. The ability for residents to speak 643 01:00:04,767 --> 01:00:07,400 to their elected leaders on issues that matter to them is paramount to our 644 01:00:10,167 --> 01:00:13,133 democracy. I believe the residents have every right to come before their leaders in 645 01:00:14,500 --> 01:00:16,833 this recorded public forum and share the things that matter 646 01:00:18,700 --> 01:00:21,700 to them. Pertaining to city business and activities. Democracy and the activities 647 01:00:23,533 --> 01:00:26,367 therein are messy. There is always a push and pull that the 648 01:00:27,967 --> 01:00:30,967 founding fathers recognized would always exist between the freedoms that we hold dear and 649 01:00:33,000 --> 01:00:36,367 the process. But they ultimately landed on protecting the freedoms as much 650 01:00:37,600 --> 01:00:39,633 as possible, even when it led to messy results. The recent 651 01:00:42,767 --> 01:00:45,233 meetings have led to this discussion 652 01:00:46,967 --> 01:00:48,500 among the current city council about the citizen input 653 01:00:51,100 --> 01:00:54,700 process. There are some changes that I think are fine. I do believe that residents should 654 01:00:55,633 --> 01:00:58,733 have the first priority in speaking before city council. Residents should not 655 01:00:59,833 --> 01:01:03,633 have to wait behind a long list of those who do not live here, regardless of the issue. 656 01:01:05,000 --> 01:01:08,167 but moving all speakers to the end of the meeting makes it more difficult 657 01:01:09,767 --> 01:01:12,767 for residents to speak. And honestly, the message that it sends is that whatever the 658 01:01:14,200 --> 01:01:18,000 resident has to say just isn't as important as whatever. We have planned 659 01:01:19,000 --> 01:01:22,067 for the agenda that evening. It also sends the message that we hope you'll get tired of 660 01:01:23,500 --> 01:01:26,767 waiting and go home. I also have concerns with requiring speakers 661 01:01:27,700 --> 01:01:30,200 to sign up before the meeting starts. Electronically is fine, but 662 01:01:32,267 --> 01:01:34,767 often people who attend the meetings are moved to speak by hearing comments of others 663 01:01:36,500 --> 01:01:38,867 for or against a topic. And that right should not be 664 01:01:40,567 --> 01:01:41,867 limited because of wanting to shorten a meeting. We can 665 01:01:44,700 --> 01:01:47,900 list a litany of supreme court cases and legal gymnastics to determine what can be done. 666 01:01:49,567 --> 01:01:52,133 but just because it can, doesn't mean it should be done. 667 01:01:53,800 --> 01:01:57,033 building public trust, especially of times 668 01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:01,867 of disagreement, is paramount to a functioning democracy, 669 01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:06,867 including at the local level. Something the audience needs 670 01:02:08,433 --> 01:02:12,200 to consider. Is the decorum in our meetings. We must all remember that city council 671 01:02:13,433 --> 01:02:16,200 meetings are legislative proceedings, and civil debate and discourse is so needed. 672 01:02:17,833 --> 01:02:21,667 you can be passionate about your issue and still show respect and decorum for the 673 01:02:24,233 --> 01:02:26,733 process, respect the time of others and maintain civility 674 01:02:30,833 --> 01:02:34,100 in the discussion. How we go about our public input process as members of this community 675 01:02:35,267 --> 01:02:38,600 matters, and in the manner in which we speak matters. It is the most basic level of interacting 676 01:02:39,467 --> 01:02:42,667 with our government. So while I stand for your right to speak, I also stand 677 01:02:43,667 --> 01:02:47,433 for your right to do it respectfully. I've sat through public input, 678 01:02:48,767 --> 01:02:52,333 both as an elected official on that side of the dais, and as a member 679 01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:57,533 of the public waiting to speak on several issues on this side of the dais. And regardless 680 01:02:58,500 --> 01:03:00,933 of the side of the dais, I have maintained the same position. It wasn't about campaigning. 681 01:03:02,833 --> 01:03:06,233 it wasn't about the issue. It's always been the same. The public must retain the right 682 01:03:07,933 --> 01:03:11,367 to speak on the issues they deem important. To limit or discourage that right because 683 01:03:13,000 --> 01:03:15,600 it makes our meetings longer? Presents not only a slippery 684 01:03:17,167 --> 01:03:19,367 slope, but a weight of conspiracy, a lack of trust, and, ultimately, 685 01:03:21,467 --> 01:03:24,967 a disrespect for the residents you represent. And I don't believe that's what any of you really want to do. 686 01:03:26,800 --> 01:03:29,700 don't let your frustration with some of these meetings relegate how those who have 687 01:03:31,467 --> 01:03:34,700 come and respected the process are treated. Things will settle down and we go on 688 01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,600 about the city's business, but we cannot complain about residents not being informed or 689 01:03:40,100 --> 01:03:43,800 engaged and then shut them down when it's convenient. Democracy is messy. It takes 690 01:03:45,467 --> 01:03:47,500 time, but it is certainly worth it. All right, that's all we had 691 01:03:55,833 --> 01:03:59,300 to speak on this item. And I do want to be very clear that city council landed very 692 01:04:01,300 --> 01:04:04,933 quickly during work sessions to not limit the topics of citizen input or the content. 693 01:04:07,067 --> 01:04:10,400 so that's not even something the city council is inquiring or discussing here tonight. 694 01:04:12,867 --> 01:04:15,000 and as far as the timing of the agenda, the thoughts 695 01:04:17,067 --> 01:04:20,433 around that is when there's citizen input for agenda items and non-agenda items. When you 696 01:04:22,767 --> 01:04:25,300 have people in the audience like we do tonight, 697 01:04:27,100 --> 01:04:31,000 three that spoke on agenda items and others that are waiting for non-agenda items, somebody in the audience is 698 01:04:32,400 --> 01:04:33,867 waiting to speak. And so it's council's discussion 699 01:04:36,633 --> 01:04:39,867 as far as where that priority should be. Should the priority be the citizens that are coming to speak, 700 01:04:40,967 --> 01:04:44,133 like happened at last meeting with the neighborhood? Where we took citizen input first, 701 01:04:45,900 --> 01:04:49,133 and those 20 to 30 residents that were there to speak on an agenda before the council 702 01:04:50,800 --> 01:04:54,500 that evening, all had to wait. So that is the argument is who should get 703 01:04:56,133 --> 01:04:59,700 priority when speaking before council. And so kind of with that, those clarifying 704 01:05:01,700 --> 01:05:04,000 remarks, we'll just kind of go through these one by one. So 705 01:05:05,733 --> 01:05:08,467 kind of the top line one is, you know, probably the biggest 706 01:05:10,033 --> 01:05:13,400 one is the duration. So, council. I don't know if this would even be a fact while I 707 01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:16,367 was still mayor, so it won't really impact me, 708 01:05:18,433 --> 01:05:20,933 but what's y'all's thoughts? Are you starting, murray? So 709 01:05:23,100 --> 01:05:26,700 the question, we're just going to do one by one, so from five to three? I think so. I 710 01:05:27,833 --> 01:05:31,767 personally don't have a problem with that. We've discussed it in three minutes. I mean, 711 01:05:33,167 --> 01:05:36,433 in speech class, it seemed about like three hours when I was doing it, so I personally 712 01:05:37,733 --> 01:05:37,733 don't have a problem with it. 713 01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:44,767 please keep your comments from the audience. Thank you. Citizen input is over. I have 714 01:05:50,300 --> 01:05:52,200 heard from many citizens that have, countless citizens 715 01:05:55,133 --> 01:05:58,367 who have said, can we shorten the amount of time to three minutes? And 716 01:06:00,600 --> 01:06:02,567 it's not on one specific thing, but I can't not unhear the 717 01:06:06,233 --> 01:06:09,900 multitude of citizens who have been disturbed. By things that have been said 718 01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:12,633 in these council chambers, and I know that democracy is messy. 719 01:06:15,067 --> 01:06:16,833 but allowing non-agenda items to go on for longer periods 720 01:06:19,600 --> 01:06:23,533 of time to the point the citizens don't feel safe in our 721 01:06:25,133 --> 01:06:26,433 city anymore is a problem that our. Please remain quiet. I 722 01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:34,233 have to ask you to leave. Thank you. Excuse me, sir. There's no more comment, 723 01:06:36,400 --> 01:06:38,400 thank you. If you cannot follow our decorum, we're going 724 01:06:40,567 --> 01:06:43,733 to have to ask you to leave. So that's where I, 725 01:06:45,567 --> 01:06:49,400 when we had conversations in council work session about it, I believe three 726 01:06:52,567 --> 01:06:56,300 minutes is plenty of time. There's lots of opportunity to come and speak 727 01:06:57,367 --> 01:07:00,333 with council, to speak to council members. Like I said, I've had many citizens reach 728 01:07:01,500 --> 01:07:04,200 out to me personally and repeatedly said, I don't feel safe in frisco. 729 01:07:06,733 --> 01:07:10,300 that's not right. I don't think anybody supports that. I don't think anybody wants that. And I 730 01:07:12,533 --> 01:07:15,333 think part of it comes from what's happening here in council chambers. And I 731 01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:21,833 think that three minutes is perfectly acceptable to get our points across. I've been 732 01:07:24,100 --> 01:07:27,900 on council for about five years now, and I can say that this conversation 733 01:07:30,333 --> 01:07:33,400 around how we govern public input. Has come up several 734 01:07:35,567 --> 01:07:37,900 times, so I think it's important for the audience 735 01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,633 to know that we are not dealing with the recency effect here. I will not give credence to that 736 01:07:44,333 --> 01:07:47,600 issue as being the sole reason why we're having this conversation. This conversation 737 01:07:49,133 --> 01:07:52,467 has surfaced on a number of occasions around putting governance 738 01:07:54,067 --> 01:07:56,967 in place. It is not about eliminating free speech, it's about brevity of speech. I 739 01:07:59,067 --> 01:08:00,667 watch this clock because I am responsible 740 01:08:03,300 --> 01:08:06,833 for pressing the button. To ensure that we start the clock. And I can tell you that there 741 01:08:08,600 --> 01:08:12,467 are many who come up here and speak and have completely gotten their point across 742 01:08:14,133 --> 01:08:16,233 in less than three minutes. Generally, when it hits the 743 01:08:18,767 --> 01:08:22,633 four-minute mark, people are then repeating themselves. But the essence of the message and the point that they're 744 01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:27,567 hoping to deliver has come across very clearly. Josh, you did that tonight. I watched the 745 01:08:29,167 --> 01:08:32,567 clock. You hit all of your key points. Your message was well taken 746 01:08:34,933 --> 01:08:37,133 at the three-minute mark. So it can be done. I am strongly 747 01:08:39,267 --> 01:08:42,533 in favor of going to three minutes and asking the audience to think about what you say ahead 748 01:08:43,767 --> 01:08:47,533 of time. And practice the art of brevity. There's nothing restricting people from coming 749 01:08:48,700 --> 01:08:50,367 every meeting if they want to come every meeting. So I'm 750 01:08:54,067 --> 01:08:58,033 also okay with the three minutes. And the purpose of that is that. When we've had the amount 751 01:08:59,400 --> 01:09:02,233 of people that come in and we've got ten or more, we get down to three minutes. 752 01:09:04,300 --> 01:09:07,433 and those same people are able to communicate the same way that the people who have had 753 01:09:09,300 --> 01:09:11,467 five minutes. The one concern that I heard that I actually 754 01:09:13,500 --> 01:09:16,833 wanted to investigate further was for someone who? This is their second language. And 755 01:09:18,600 --> 01:09:21,133 by using a translator, we've taken account into that, to being able 756 01:09:22,933 --> 01:09:26,900 to say, if you need a translator to help get your point across, we will make that available to you. And that is very easily 757 01:09:28,267 --> 01:09:30,533 accessible, as long as you let us know ahead of time. I did some research 758 01:09:33,567 --> 01:09:36,100 around all the neighboring areas, plano, prosper, denton, mckinney, they're all 759 01:09:38,100 --> 01:09:41,667 at three minutes already. So, with frisco and the population and the size that we have, 760 01:09:43,133 --> 01:09:46,333 I think it's also respectful to our residents. To do this in an expedient fashion, so 761 01:09:48,167 --> 01:09:51,967 that other people have the opportunity to speak as well. So with that, I am okay with 762 01:09:54,333 --> 01:09:54,333 the three minutes. I guess I'm 763 01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:04,133 going to be the dissenting voice here. If people had come to the work session when we 764 01:10:05,733 --> 01:10:09,300 discussed this. I was against going from five minutes 765 01:10:13,700 --> 01:10:16,733 to three minutes. What makes america the best country, quite frankly, 766 01:10:17,900 --> 01:10:21,533 is that people have the right to speak their mind, as long as 767 01:10:25,300 --> 01:10:28,967 they're not breaking the law. If you look at europe now, that's gone. They don't have that ability anymore. We're 768 01:10:32,633 --> 01:10:33,700 basically the last country that allows that. I don't want 769 01:10:37,300 --> 01:10:41,300 to see that changed. Yes, the last couple of meetings, I 770 01:10:42,533 --> 01:10:44,733 think we broke a record that we had to stay here, 771 01:10:46,933 --> 01:10:46,933 but that's okay. That's okay. I 772 01:10:51,233 --> 01:10:53,133 do get comments from citizens, 773 01:10:56,667 --> 01:11:00,533 and I specifically tell them at the end of our conversation, please, if you have more stuff, 774 01:11:01,733 --> 01:11:03,000 call me back. That's what I'm here for. That's why I got 775 01:11:06,467 --> 01:11:09,433 elected. That's why you elected me, that you can call and tell me, because I don't know what 776 01:11:12,933 --> 01:11:16,200 your problems are until you tell me. And so, yes, am I for efficiency? Absolutely. Some of the things 777 01:11:17,667 --> 01:11:21,533 in the ordinance are good. You know, the electronic part, good. I mean, that's what we're 778 01:11:23,400 --> 01:11:24,600 all going to. I went to a play down in dallas, and they didn't 779 01:11:28,833 --> 01:11:31,367 accept a paper ticket. And me, being kind of old school, 780 01:11:34,367 --> 01:11:37,367 we were fumbling around trying to get the app going, but we figured it 781 01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:41,200 out and we got it going. So we need to kind of get in the 21st 782 01:11:43,067 --> 01:11:45,800 century when it comes to some of the stuff, which I think is a good thing. 783 01:11:48,067 --> 01:11:52,000 but I personally want to encourage openness. And I will tell you, I've been 784 01:11:53,433 --> 01:11:56,467 on that side and I'm up here. You get nervous. You're not sure what you're saying. And 785 01:11:58,100 --> 01:12:01,333 five minutes. Is not as much time as you think it is. And so 786 01:12:04,700 --> 01:12:07,233 I think there's also the aspect, we talk about some very 787 01:12:09,167 --> 01:12:11,300 complicated issues at times, not all the time, 788 01:12:13,567 --> 01:12:16,200 but occasionally we do. And five minutes allows someone 789 01:12:18,200 --> 01:12:21,367 to articulate that, if they choose. They don't have 790 01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:26,567 to go to five minutes. They don't have to. It just allows them the ability if they have 791 01:12:27,433 --> 01:12:31,067 something more to say. What I don't like, though, is when 792 01:12:32,967 --> 01:12:36,633 people, when we ask them to stop, you've got five minutes and they try 793 01:12:38,400 --> 01:12:40,733 to abuse that. And that I don't want to happen. 794 01:12:42,933 --> 01:12:45,767 but I think we should stick to the five minutes. I think we should adjust this one item, 795 01:12:49,067 --> 01:12:51,967 table it, and redo the ordinance. And that's what, just this one 796 01:12:54,767 --> 01:12:57,833 item, the five minutes. And I'm for keeping also the 797 01:13:01,333 --> 01:13:05,233 decorum is fine. That can't have banners and stuff like that. We'll go through the other ones. Okay. 798 01:13:06,967 --> 01:13:10,433 all right. But so anyway, I'm for the five minutes. So let's 799 01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:17,800 just be real. Five minutes to three minutes. Doesn't seem 800 01:13:19,000 --> 01:13:21,400 like a lot, right? Five minutes to three minutes. We're doing 801 01:13:23,500 --> 01:13:27,100 it administratively. We vote. We do this. We do that. The reality is, how many of you are 802 01:13:30,133 --> 01:13:32,700 professional speakers? Probably not many. Josh, you know why you were on time? 803 01:13:34,867 --> 01:13:36,333 because you ran for office and you know what it's like 804 01:13:38,967 --> 01:13:42,233 to answer something in a minute or two minutes, or three minutes. Most people, you know, to jared's point, 805 01:13:44,133 --> 01:13:47,967 people get nervous. People have issues that they want to talk about. And look, what are we doing 806 01:13:49,667 --> 01:13:51,267 by cutting the public's time by 40 percent to be able to get an idea out? I get it. There are issues and we want 807 01:13:55,167 --> 01:13:57,567 to have efficiencies and we want to have government function 808 01:14:00,167 --> 01:14:03,767 to a point. To get right down to the point. I argue that public input is not meant 809 01:14:05,433 --> 01:14:06,500 to be efficient. It's meant to be representative. That's 810 01:14:10,233 --> 01:14:13,600 it. And everybody, thank you, everybody has a right 811 01:14:17,567 --> 01:14:20,400 to speak, to get up here. And if you can't form your words, you have the right 812 01:14:21,867 --> 01:14:24,367 to come and speak for the five minutes. This argument, oh, we can do better 813 01:14:25,967 --> 01:14:28,533 in frisco. Okay, we are. We are at five minutes. The 814 01:14:30,133 --> 01:14:33,300 comparables that you're using between denton and all these other places, well, does 815 01:14:34,900 --> 01:14:38,333 denton have the safest city? Does denton have the best police force? Does denton have 816 01:14:39,367 --> 01:14:42,433 the greatest city staff? I don't want to be a comparator. I want us to be the paragon 817 01:14:44,233 --> 01:14:46,267 of what should be. And look, a lot of people, 818 01:14:48,433 --> 01:14:51,767 while they might be. Afraid or be perturbed, or this and that 819 01:14:54,100 --> 01:14:56,433 with opinions that don't matter. Guess what? They're words. We saw what whether 820 01:14:59,567 --> 01:15:03,400 or not you agree with charlie kirk, okay? That guy died because he was expressing a 821 01:15:05,067 --> 01:15:08,567 viewpoint. Like, what are we doing here? We should give everybody the right to speak. 822 01:15:10,267 --> 01:15:13,833 and this notion, dear council, this notion that we're going 823 01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:20,467 to fix something by going from five minutes to three minutes? Well, guess 824 01:15:21,533 --> 01:15:24,900 what? The other night, when we sat here and we listened to 35 residents speak 825 01:15:26,600 --> 01:15:29,967 about warehouses, if we hadn't, you know, jared and I, we both voted no on it 826 01:15:31,400 --> 01:15:35,133 to reduce that time. Maybe if we had listened to all of them for five minutes, maybe some of the council would have actually 827 01:15:38,900 --> 01:15:42,100 heard what their beliefs were and they would have tabled it. You know what? I know what it's like to sit on the other side, too. And I 828 01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:46,867 remember how tough it was for me to get up here and talk about issues. And mr. Mayor, with all due respect, this isn't about campaigning. 829 01:15:48,000 --> 01:15:50,867 this isn't about... This is about affording the citizens a chance to come 830 01:15:52,667 --> 01:15:56,300 in here and say what they need to say. And if somebody wants to come from an hour away, or they want to come 831 01:15:57,700 --> 01:16:01,167 from five minutes away, to use this platform to get something 832 01:16:02,033 --> 01:16:05,467 off their chest, it's their right to do so. And you know what we'll do? We'll sit up here as elected 833 01:16:06,733 --> 01:16:10,200 officials and we'll listen to it. Because that's the american way. So, if you can't 834 01:16:11,333 --> 01:16:15,267 tell, thank you, if you can't tell, I'm firmly against changing it, why fix 835 01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:19,667 something that's not broken? What is the issue that we're trying to solve? And as opposed 836 01:16:21,233 --> 01:16:25,200 to leading from a place of love, why are we approaching this from a place of fear that we call government efficiency? 837 01:16:26,900 --> 01:16:30,633 sorry. I got a little passionate. I just want to clarify the last two council 838 01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:35,700 members' remarks because I think people may be misled that 839 01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:40,367 council is restricting content or speech, which we're not. So that was off the table 840 01:16:41,533 --> 01:16:45,467 immediately when council had these discussions, so people will be free 841 01:16:47,333 --> 01:16:51,267 to come and address this. Mr. Mayor, that's not what I said. I said, I'm against limiting five minutes 842 01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:56,967 to three minutes. Understood what you said. Thank you. Thank you. But I think people could have inferred both of your remarks separately that we 843 01:16:58,500 --> 01:17:02,033 were restricting. Okay, so to anybody listening, that is not what I'm saying. I'm saying I'm against limiting it 844 01:17:03,500 --> 01:17:06,767 from five minutes to three minutes. There's no inference. Okay. Speaker represent registration 845 01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:11,167 procedures. City staff, you've been working on electronic registration. You want to give council kind 846 01:17:12,967 --> 01:17:16,100 of an update on that? Yes, we continue to work on those, and a lot of that 847 01:17:17,467 --> 01:17:20,833 is just based on what is decided here tonight, what we make available. We are 848 01:17:23,167 --> 01:17:26,333 mirroring other surrounding cities that have done this and it is a way to make the process 849 01:17:28,500 --> 01:17:31,933 more efficient. And quite frankly, I mean, when you have these blue cards, 850 01:17:33,433 --> 01:17:36,567 it is incredibly difficult to read people's handwriting. I don't know how many people are 851 01:17:37,867 --> 01:17:41,600 writing letters these days, but if you see what we see, most of the time it's 852 01:17:42,567 --> 01:17:46,500 not legible. And it makes it difficult for staff and for you as a council to even see what it is that they're 853 01:17:48,267 --> 01:17:52,267 even writing on their form. A lot of times they leave email addresses that say, hey, I want 854 01:17:53,667 --> 01:17:56,733 to be contacted, and they say, hey, contact me. And staff is sitting there trying 855 01:17:58,500 --> 01:18:01,500 to distinguish what in the world is their email address so that we can contact them. And 856 01:18:03,133 --> 01:18:06,033 so I feel like this is just a more modern way and an efficient way 857 01:18:07,800 --> 01:18:10,567 to have people register, to speak. And it gets it electronically so that we can 858 01:18:11,967 --> 01:18:15,933 be able to get through them and read them and note the record more easily. But yes, 859 01:18:17,433 --> 01:18:21,333 that process is ongoing with our it team. And we had talked during our work 860 01:18:23,367 --> 01:18:27,233 session about, you know, even having a qr code kind of here on site, so, you know, people that kind of came here 861 01:18:29,267 --> 01:18:32,067 would be easily accessible. And the process would be pretty easy, just a form would come up 862 01:18:33,433 --> 01:18:36,900 and they would fill it out and it would get routed to you somehow. I don't know 863 01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:41,267 about the qr code yet, but yes, we're still working on the basics of the form right now 864 01:18:42,267 --> 01:18:45,567 with the it plan. You know, hearing some of the comments tonight, you know, kind 865 01:18:46,567 --> 01:18:48,933 of a fair compromise, maybe that kind of came 866 01:18:51,700 --> 01:18:55,000 to mind, which is I would say, being the person who's had to run these meetings 867 01:18:56,233 --> 01:18:59,867 for nine years, it is nice to know. Kind of where citizen input is coming to the agenda, 868 01:19:00,700 --> 01:19:04,067 so you can adjust the agenda to get our citizens out the door and home quicker. I think to the point, excuse me, sir. 869 01:19:07,067 --> 01:19:10,433 if you have one more outburst, you're going to be asked to be removed. Do you 870 01:19:12,100 --> 01:19:14,267 understand? Thank you. Is everyone who is there 871 01:19:18,167 --> 01:19:22,033 for an agenda item, they'll typically register and say they don't want to speak, you know, 872 01:19:24,033 --> 01:19:26,900 but they want their comment known? I think it's reasonable 873 01:19:28,167 --> 01:19:31,367 that if someone has at least registered a comment card or an opinion card on the site saying, 874 01:19:34,367 --> 01:19:35,800 this is how I feel about this item, should they change 875 01:19:39,500 --> 01:19:42,567 their mind during the meeting and want to speak, but they've registered, that could potentially be something 876 01:19:43,667 --> 01:19:46,033 that council could do. Consider to some of our speakers points. 877 01:19:48,000 --> 01:19:49,800 but my question was, what was the cutoff time for that? 5 p.m. And 878 01:19:54,067 --> 01:19:57,900 but when will they first be able to file, or to submit it online? And to clarify, sorry, 5 p.m. 879 01:19:59,433 --> 01:20:02,833 on the day of the council meeting, right? So how long? So that? I mean, we're not going to start 880 01:20:04,533 --> 01:20:07,500 at 8 a.m that day. They'll have. So as soon as the agenda is posted, 881 01:20:08,900 --> 01:20:12,533 we will open up those forms for people to register. Which, how many days is that now? That is now three business 882 01:20:13,633 --> 01:20:16,267 days prior to the meeting. So it's three business days prior. So they'll, 883 01:20:18,700 --> 01:20:21,400 given that our meetings are on tuesday, they'll have to have a weekend as well. So 884 01:20:23,833 --> 01:20:27,767 they'll have, yes. So they'll have plenty of time to do it. Correct. Almost a week in some cases. Well, I am 885 01:20:29,300 --> 01:20:33,100 normally resistant to all things technology. I personally, 886 01:20:34,533 --> 01:20:37,067 I don't have a problem with that. If we give them five days to if they have five 887 01:20:38,833 --> 01:20:42,067 days, a minimum of five days to do it and we advertise it, I like the idea 888 01:20:43,400 --> 01:20:46,700 of putting the link in the agenda. As long as we advertise it and let people 889 01:20:48,000 --> 01:20:51,400 know how we're doing it. And not just switch one meeting where everybody shows up and they can't talk, 890 01:20:52,333 --> 01:20:55,900 but advertise, hey, as a effect of this date, it's going to switch to this. I think that's, 891 01:20:57,333 --> 01:21:00,867 unfortunately, that's just the way everything's going. And as we get more and more people speaking, I think it's 892 01:21:01,967 --> 01:21:04,900 for the staff and for the record keeping, and for the communication. I actually, 893 01:21:11,867 --> 01:21:15,100 I believe that going electronic is really good. I know it helps with record-keeping, 894 01:21:16,133 --> 01:21:18,967 which is important and paramount to the city. But I could also see individuals 895 01:21:22,700 --> 01:21:25,233 coming in to counsel on the night of and wanting 896 01:21:27,300 --> 01:21:31,067 to make a comment. And regardless, we're going to have to communicate this 897 01:21:33,500 --> 01:21:36,967 very strongly to citizens to let them know what going on, but I would almost encourage a 898 01:21:37,667 --> 01:21:41,433 more phased approach to going. Like, not fully electronic, but gradually phasing 899 01:21:43,200 --> 01:21:46,967 out blue cards, or even leaving people the opportunity to use the blue cards going forward, 900 01:21:48,500 --> 01:21:51,700 but encourage everyone to use the qr code and use the electronic form as a way 901 01:21:54,567 --> 01:21:54,567 to keep that avenue 902 01:22:00,567 --> 01:22:03,533 of communication open. I'm in total agreement with going to the electronic option of pre registering and getting the 903 01:22:06,700 --> 01:22:09,967 blue cards out ahead of time. I would ask, though, if there's like a five day minimum. Three 904 01:22:11,667 --> 01:22:15,267 days feels a little short, so I don't know what our options are when it comes to posting the agenda, 905 01:22:17,000 --> 01:22:20,600 but I would love to be able to do that and have at least so it always be 906 01:22:21,733 --> 01:22:24,900 at least five days, because if you think about it, it's three business days and that does not include 907 01:22:26,267 --> 01:22:28,633 holidays. So typically, we are posting on either a tuesday or a wednesday 908 01:22:30,600 --> 01:22:32,900 before the actual council meeting. So you typically have a full week, no less than six 909 01:22:36,033 --> 01:22:39,600 days, not business, but just six days 910 01:22:40,767 --> 01:22:43,933 to get that agenda, to get signed up. Okay. I am in full support. That is 911 01:22:45,767 --> 01:22:48,333 accurate. That is just one addition. If we had a special call meeting that didn't cross 912 01:22:50,867 --> 01:22:54,133 over a weekend, then we would still just have the three 913 01:22:55,567 --> 01:22:59,267 business days. So, for example, if we had a friday meeting for whatever reason. We posted 914 01:23:00,667 --> 01:23:04,500 the agenda on tuesday, or whatever the requirement would be. Yeah, it would be the, no, 915 01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:08,733 so it would be friday, so monday. Monday, so that would 916 01:23:11,833 --> 01:23:14,900 be, so you wouldn't have the weekend in the case of a special called meeting. 917 01:23:16,667 --> 01:23:20,233 but for any normally scheduled city council meeting, what christy explained would apply. 918 01:23:22,367 --> 01:23:22,367 and, to ann's point, I think 919 01:23:26,633 --> 01:23:29,533 anything that the council decides to change, there's probably going to be a grace 920 01:23:31,333 --> 01:23:35,233 period and a rollout period where we extend some grace for people who don't know the new 921 01:23:36,333 --> 01:23:39,033 rules. So I'm sure that would be part of just our process. And plus, staff still has 922 01:23:40,700 --> 01:23:44,500 to get this up and running, and we probably were going to test it. So it will probably 923 01:23:45,833 --> 01:23:48,800 be a more phased approach anyway, for the registration, at least. I'm also in support 924 01:23:51,800 --> 01:23:55,200 of having a transition plan, of moving us into the new thing, but as somebody who has to read 925 01:23:57,400 --> 01:24:00,900 the names and has a very hard time trying to read them, I am in full support 926 01:24:03,067 --> 01:24:06,533 of giving people more time. To be able to register where you're not having 927 01:24:07,800 --> 01:24:10,600 to rush up here just to fill out a blue card and turn it in. You can do it days in advance. 928 01:24:12,367 --> 01:24:14,700 but then also, it makes it a lot easier for staff, and selfishly also 929 01:24:16,467 --> 01:24:19,733 for me, to be able to call your name appropriately. When it's time to have you come to the 930 01:24:22,033 --> 01:24:25,533 podium. I personally think we should, I like the electronic 931 01:24:29,233 --> 01:24:31,433 because my kids are whizzes on that stuff and they're great 932 01:24:36,133 --> 01:24:39,733 at it. But I'm kind of old school, my wife will tell you. I think we should keep the blue cards 933 01:24:41,033 --> 01:24:44,133 for people that struggle with that kind of stuff. But I definitely don't want 934 01:24:45,600 --> 01:24:48,800 to do the cutoff at 5 o'clock. Because people are rushing here from work, I get it. You know, 935 01:24:50,467 --> 01:24:53,933 traffic is really harsh now. In the city of frisco, not just 936 01:24:55,933 --> 01:24:58,533 the city of frisco, the whole north, actually all of dallas, fort worth. I can't 937 01:25:00,433 --> 01:25:03,367 name a city that doesn't have traffic. So I think we should, 938 01:25:06,000 --> 01:25:08,100 I think the cutoff should be, you know, once the meeting 939 01:25:11,167 --> 01:25:14,000 starts, we start at 7, I say, give it an extra 30 minute. 940 01:25:18,833 --> 01:25:22,000 grace, 7.30. I want to make sure that anybody that comes here wants to sign up and talk, they can do it, and that's good for them. And so, I'm all 941 01:25:27,633 --> 01:25:30,433 for the electronic. I know, christy, you had mentioned that. I asked you, well, how 942 01:25:32,133 --> 01:25:34,967 quickly, if someone does the electronic, does it get to you? And you were like, 943 01:25:37,667 --> 01:25:40,700 well, I'm not sure yet. And that may take 30 minutes. I don't know. Sometimes I get stuff that I submit electronic, doesn't come in right away. So 944 01:25:41,833 --> 01:25:41,833 until we get that perfected, 945 01:25:46,433 --> 01:25:47,467 that it's instantaneous. But I know some older people, 946 01:25:51,033 --> 01:25:53,700 they struggle with the electronic stuff. So I'm for keep for 947 01:25:55,500 --> 01:25:57,133 introducing the electronic, but also keeping the paper. 948 01:25:59,833 --> 01:26:01,800 but at least I'm for maybe a cut off at 7, 30, 30 minutes 949 01:26:07,700 --> 01:26:10,533 after the meeting starts. Well, you all know which way I'm gonna go. Uh, look, 950 01:26:12,967 --> 01:26:16,800 electronically, covet taught us how to use these to read a menu. So I don't 951 01:26:18,167 --> 01:26:20,000 think it's gonna be that tough for anybody to go figure 952 01:26:22,733 --> 01:26:25,933 out electronic stuff and look. Anything that increases efficiency and lowers level 953 01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:30,167 of effort on four from an engineering perspective, right? However, what mark and 954 01:26:32,833 --> 01:26:36,600 shauna and what josh said really holds sway, because it reminds me also. I've sat there 955 01:26:37,867 --> 01:26:39,767 right where you are, sir, and I've been inspired 956 01:26:42,167 --> 01:26:45,667 to speak because of what somebody else said before me. How do I know 957 01:26:46,900 --> 01:26:48,900 sometimes what I'm going to say? Or even if I have the courage. To speak until I hear 958 01:26:51,300 --> 01:26:53,333 somebody else speak. This is, yes, it is a function 959 01:26:56,367 --> 01:26:59,767 of government to talk about the agenda items and this and that, but as far as having a cutoff. 960 01:27:01,233 --> 01:27:04,567 for people to have the right to speak, to have the right to be able to get their voices heard, 961 01:27:05,800 --> 01:27:05,800 that is paramount. Mr. Mayor, 962 01:27:12,200 --> 01:27:13,233 please. So, to that end, what I would respectfully request. 963 01:27:17,433 --> 01:27:20,733 the council to do is to table this again. There's an old adage that's, if it ain't 964 01:27:22,467 --> 01:27:25,700 broke, don't fix it. And the system, the system isn't broken. 965 01:27:26,967 --> 01:27:29,400 what we can do is we can optimize it with engineering controls, 966 01:27:31,233 --> 01:27:33,867 but let's not have a cutoff. This is nonsensical. Okay. The third item was placement 967 01:27:35,833 --> 01:27:39,300 on citizen input on the council agenda. You 968 01:27:39,933 --> 01:27:39,933 know, and again, 969 01:27:46,933 --> 01:27:49,233 this is choosing to who are you going to prioritize 970 01:27:52,100 --> 01:27:54,833 for people who come to speak? So tonight we prioritized people that were speaking 971 01:27:57,400 --> 01:27:59,900 on an agenda item. Last meeting, we prioritized 972 01:28:02,233 --> 01:28:05,033 residents that came to speak during non-agenda items, while 35 people that were waiting for 973 01:28:07,700 --> 01:28:10,567 an actual city business item waited to get through that. My personal take on this one, 974 01:28:12,633 --> 01:28:15,533 after thinking over it the last couple weeks, is I personally don't think 975 01:28:17,767 --> 01:28:21,467 this needs to be defined. You know, I think that, you know, 976 01:28:25,400 --> 01:28:28,733 the mayor runs the meetings per the city charter, and we've kind of moved citizen input 977 01:28:30,867 --> 01:28:33,500 over the years, just depending on where we were in the agenda. And so one 978 01:28:35,700 --> 01:28:39,200 of the benefits of having an electronic system is that, you know, the future mayor that 979 01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:42,867 would be running these meetings will know that if there's agenda item 27 that has five 980 01:28:45,267 --> 01:28:47,700 people waiting to speak that they can prioritize that agenda item. So my personal 981 01:28:49,800 --> 01:28:53,700 belief is that when the mayor is planning to run the meeting, you know, after reflection over these 982 01:28:55,933 --> 01:28:58,733 last couple meetings, is. The mayor should prioritize all 983 01:29:00,733 --> 01:29:04,300 items with citizen input, but giving a higher priority to agenda items 984 01:29:05,500 --> 01:29:09,333 with citizen input first. And so that's usually how we build our agendas. When we move to the agenda, 985 01:29:10,467 --> 01:29:12,367 to the regular agenda, if we typically know or think that 986 01:29:18,900 --> 01:29:22,900 people will be showing up to speak on an item, we tend to move that up higher in the agenda, knowing to get them out. So I don't 987 01:29:24,233 --> 01:29:26,800 know that it has to specifically be defined per ordinance, 988 01:29:28,533 --> 01:29:31,233 as far as where it is in the agenda. I think it can be part 989 01:29:32,633 --> 01:29:35,067 of a city charter mayor discretion, depending on what 990 01:29:38,133 --> 01:29:42,067 that night looks like. I'm actually okay with that. Yeah, that's, I don't know how you document that, but I guess just mayor's 991 01:29:42,933 --> 01:29:46,267 discretion. But yeah, I mean, my whole point is, I want to be able to get through the business 992 01:29:47,600 --> 01:29:49,033 of the city and the business of the citizens and get 993 01:29:51,833 --> 01:29:54,467 through that. And do it in a timely manner so that those that show up to participate 994 01:29:56,500 --> 01:30:00,133 in that can do it. Respect the people that come to speak on other things, 995 01:30:01,067 --> 01:30:04,767 and your point's valid of how do you manage that? When there could be. Three 996 01:30:07,500 --> 01:30:11,433 people for an agenda item and 150 people for a non agenda item, so I'm fine with the mayor's discretion. I think that gets 997 01:30:12,333 --> 01:30:15,100 us to achieve our goal without having to create unforced errors in how you document it, 998 01:30:16,500 --> 01:30:16,500 so I'm fine with that. I agree. 999 01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:26,667 I think that having the ability to move the citizen input 1000 01:30:28,033 --> 01:30:30,200 around, I think at the end of the day, we want our residents 1001 01:30:33,233 --> 01:30:36,700 to be able to speak and to get to city business. And I heard that in the public comments. 1002 01:30:38,800 --> 01:30:42,367 council meetings are about city business. They're about listening to the residents, and we want to also ensure that we have 1003 01:30:43,167 --> 01:30:45,933 public trust in council's ability to listen and hear what's being said. So 1004 01:30:47,733 --> 01:30:50,700 I like the idea that it doesn't necessarily get pushed to the end of the meeting, 1005 01:30:51,867 --> 01:30:55,567 that you have the discretion, jeff, but also, I'd like to reiterate that I think even 1006 01:30:57,267 --> 01:31:00,533 with the electronic system, that we have the ability for people to use the blue cards still. 1007 01:31:02,767 --> 01:31:06,633 maybe just gradually phase it all out. I think meetings have an agenda for a reason, and the agenda is 1008 01:31:07,533 --> 01:31:07,533 to keep people focused. And to 1009 01:31:14,100 --> 01:31:17,133 ensure that you are covering what you set out to accomplish at the onset of a meeting. And with that, I think, 1010 01:31:18,433 --> 01:31:22,400 to mayor's point, having residents who have comments on 1011 01:31:25,133 --> 01:31:28,967 the agenda should be prioritized. And however we do that, whether it's 1012 01:31:30,033 --> 01:31:33,433 I'm putting in governance around that. In terms of the timing that they speak 1013 01:31:35,433 --> 01:31:38,200 on the agenda, or whether it's up to the mayor to make that decision. I'm fine, either way, 1014 01:31:40,300 --> 01:31:43,367 but I do want to prioritize those who are speaking on the agenda because that is the 1015 01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:45,000 business of the city. Yeah, we 1016 01:31:49,900 --> 01:31:52,733 had quite a bit of discussion of whether or not this was going to stay where it is. Or 1017 01:31:54,000 --> 01:31:57,733 it was going to go to the end of the meeting. And it could probably be a very valid argument, either way. 1018 01:31:58,967 --> 01:32:02,200 but I do think the in the interest of the city, we want to do what's best 1019 01:32:04,100 --> 01:32:07,367 for our residents specifically. So I'm fine with the mayor's discretion, 1020 01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:12,600 knowing that the mayor will do what's best for the residents. For citizen input, I agree. I 1021 01:32:13,933 --> 01:32:17,633 think we need the agenda items first, but we can do the agenda items first and then do the non-agenda behind it and then 1022 01:32:18,833 --> 01:32:22,700 get on with the meeting. I do want to hear the agenda stuff first. I think that's 1023 01:32:23,933 --> 01:32:27,167 important because that's what most of the meeting is about, typically. But I don't think it 1024 01:32:28,900 --> 01:32:30,800 should be put at the end of the meeting. I disagree 1025 01:32:33,233 --> 01:32:36,667 with that too, because the meetings sometimes drag 1026 01:32:38,733 --> 01:32:41,167 on and if people come to speak. Most 1027 01:32:43,200 --> 01:32:47,000 of these meetings, these items, I mean, people wanting to speak is not that long. And 1028 01:32:48,900 --> 01:32:48,900 so there's been times, yes, 1029 01:32:53,567 --> 01:32:57,067 but for most of the time that I've been doing this, it's pretty short. I'm 1030 01:32:59,567 --> 01:33:02,633 with keeping citizen input at the same spot, but I don't mind the agenda item first, 1031 01:33:04,333 --> 01:33:07,800 but then the non agenda right behind it, but at the same time. And for me, 1032 01:33:10,567 --> 01:33:13,433 I'm for it because it's another law that we don't have to put on the books. So if it ain't 1033 01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:18,033 broke, don't fix it. We'll leave it up to the mayor. So I'm good with that. I think I 1034 01:33:21,400 --> 01:33:22,233 heard consensus on that one. Okay, and rules of decorum, 1035 01:33:26,033 --> 01:33:27,933 this is how we. This is a simple, essentially codifying 1036 01:33:30,467 --> 01:33:34,067 how we've operated in the past, you know, as a city, but actually making it 1037 01:33:36,233 --> 01:33:40,000 something more enforceable. Any comments or turns on on this item? Okay, so that's, 1038 01:33:43,433 --> 01:33:45,533 that's all the items. I heard consensus on decorum, 1039 01:33:47,567 --> 01:33:48,967 I heard consent. We're going to change, you know, 1040 01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:55,533 this paragraph is far as the agenda, so I guess we won't have a physical change. 1041 01:33:58,100 --> 01:34:02,033 but whether we want to codify, sound like there's consensus. 1042 01:34:03,233 --> 01:34:04,967 to prioritize agenda items, citizen input yeah, sorry, 1043 01:34:07,600 --> 01:34:09,400 I didn't know my mic was. Prioritize citizen input 1044 01:34:14,700 --> 01:34:17,000 in general, but here agenda items first, 1045 01:34:18,900 --> 01:34:22,433 I think is a good way to summarize that. We're going to the cards. I heard, I'm not 1046 01:34:24,800 --> 01:34:28,467 sure, maybe I'm 100% solid on the majority of this one. I heard a majority saying fine 1047 01:34:29,967 --> 01:34:33,467 going to the electronic system, having some type of rollout period 1048 01:34:34,900 --> 01:34:38,333 in education, but ann, you may have been the one that differed, that said, wanted to keep blue cards. I wanted 1049 01:34:40,667 --> 01:34:42,633 to keep it, too. Yeah. Mayor, so when we wrote the ordinance, 1050 01:34:46,167 --> 01:34:49,267 we were trying to create alternatives for sign-up. So one thing we 1051 01:34:50,833 --> 01:34:54,767 discussed was have electronic sign-up, potentially have a phone number or email where 1052 01:34:58,733 --> 01:35:02,667 people could call if they were having trouble electronically. And if it didn't work, 1053 01:35:03,833 --> 01:35:07,400 then we would figure out something like a blue card or some other method 1054 01:35:09,200 --> 01:35:11,733 to sign up. So we weren't limited to electronic sign-up. The goal was 1055 01:35:13,700 --> 01:35:17,633 to get as many as we could, but if there's somebody who just can't do it, then we're going to do everything we can 1056 01:35:18,933 --> 01:35:21,900 to accommodate that person, to be able to speak. Okay, that's a good, that's a good, 1057 01:35:23,133 --> 01:35:27,000 helpful distinction. Thank you. Yeah, so to distinguish that, what we do with pirs, pirs are already online, 1058 01:35:28,033 --> 01:35:31,167 but if someone wants to come in and submit a pir in writing, we facilitate that in our office. Like, if they 1059 01:35:32,833 --> 01:35:35,867 can't manage the computer, they can't do any of that. We're already doing that. We would just extend that same 1060 01:35:37,333 --> 01:35:40,100 service to people being able to come into our office and complete a blue card, and we 1061 01:35:41,967 --> 01:35:43,633 will get that entered electronically for them. All 1062 01:35:46,433 --> 01:35:49,767 I'm saying is, I don't think you need to change the ordinance. I think it was baked in there. Got it. 1063 01:35:51,967 --> 01:35:54,833 thank you for that. And then the final, I did hear majority 1064 01:35:56,667 --> 01:35:58,733 of going from the five to the three minutes. So. 1065 01:36:02,633 --> 01:36:05,500 council, I'll look for mr. Mayor, before you say that, can I ask something? Sure. 1066 01:36:06,833 --> 01:36:08,467 given that, you know, I think you said something, and 1067 01:36:11,133 --> 01:36:14,600 I think I stand a good chance of being done before you, without a runoff, and then you. 1068 01:36:17,933 --> 01:36:21,367 I would like to, unless there's opposition to this, I 1069 01:36:22,633 --> 01:36:25,233 like what we're doing. We're trying to become efficient. 1070 01:36:27,700 --> 01:36:30,633 we're trying to add some structure as we get bigger and have more issues and have more 1071 01:36:32,067 --> 01:36:34,567 people come here. I think that's important. I think I brought that up 1072 01:36:37,800 --> 01:36:41,767 on other things, just about our rules of procedure and previous things about making motions. I'm all for structure. 1073 01:36:42,767 --> 01:36:46,733 I personally, while I am for the most of them, of these changes, and you summarize my views great, I personally would like to table it and just have some 1074 01:36:47,933 --> 01:36:51,833 more time to think about it. Because we are impacting our citizens' ability to come speak to us. And I'd 1075 01:36:53,133 --> 01:36:56,833 rather just take another look at it, think about it some more, and just before we start 1076 01:36:58,167 --> 01:37:01,233 making changes, make sure we're getting it right and not. Not rushing into something, 1077 01:37:02,300 --> 01:37:05,067 I know that's extra staff time, but I feel like there was 1078 01:37:06,467 --> 01:37:08,233 enough questions and minor differences that it might not 1079 01:37:10,567 --> 01:37:13,167 hurt. Just to take one more look at it and push it. But that's just my 1080 01:37:14,933 --> 01:37:18,267 well, it would come before us one final time, right? Or no? We could make it 1081 01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:22,233 come before the council. You're going to either have to write the ordinance tonight 1082 01:37:24,033 --> 01:37:27,700 with the changes in it, or you're going to have to come back. So you'll bring it back with the revised 1083 01:37:28,833 --> 01:37:30,333 changes anyway? Yes, sir. Okay, except I'm not clear on 1084 01:37:32,933 --> 01:37:35,767 the revised changes. I'm not either. I'm not even sure. Some of the stuff I said, you 1085 01:37:38,433 --> 01:37:39,800 know, I was kind of going back and forth and waffling. I would 1086 01:37:42,500 --> 01:37:43,867 just, this is important. It's not only important about how it 1087 01:37:46,567 --> 01:37:50,100 looks from the citizens, how it looks at what we're doing. I just want to make sure we get it right, 1088 01:37:51,400 --> 01:37:53,467 especially since.I'm not going to be up here. Probably when it becomes effective. I just want 1089 01:37:56,433 --> 01:37:59,633 to make sure we get it right. I don't have a problem with it. I'm not as passionate about burt. Thinking that, you know, losing two minutes of your 1090 01:38:00,533 --> 01:38:02,800 time to speak is violating your first amendment, right? Didn't say that. But I don't want 1091 01:38:06,333 --> 01:38:10,100 to rush into it, and I'd rather just sit and take another look at it. So to give, I guess, 1092 01:38:12,600 --> 01:38:15,733 direction, you said you're not clear. I think the only change would be the third item, 1093 01:38:17,100 --> 01:38:19,100 the placement on the city. Yes. Well, thank you, ken, but 1094 01:38:21,333 --> 01:38:24,467 I heard some things that were unresolved. So let me, if I may, just real quick. The 1095 01:38:25,667 --> 01:38:28,933 quorum is good. Everybody, I think I'm clear that everybody wants to leave it to the discretion of the mayor 1096 01:38:31,100 --> 01:38:33,167 for the non-agenda comment period. So that's, 1097 01:38:35,367 --> 01:38:38,267 I'm clear there. Bert said something about no cutoff time. 1098 01:38:39,933 --> 01:38:43,800 does anybody support that from the council? Yeah, so no, you can sign up whenever you 1099 01:38:45,100 --> 01:38:47,533 want. Oh. That's one that I'm not sure when I want the cutoff 1100 01:38:49,233 --> 01:38:52,800 time to be, honestly. Five o'clock. I do hear the thought of I'm sitting there and I want 1101 01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:56,233 to say something, but I also don't want. Just all 1102 01:38:59,233 --> 01:39:02,600 night, you know, three in the morning, people just walking up with cars at the last second. 1103 01:39:04,000 --> 01:39:06,600 to start talking about all sorts of things that we've seen, 1104 01:39:08,133 --> 01:39:11,633 some, you know, crazy stuff. But I do want a cutoff. I'm not sure it's five o'clock. So we 1105 01:39:14,000 --> 01:39:17,933 need to get an direction on that. Yeah. Because, frankly, chrissy can talk to the mechanics of that, 1106 01:39:18,767 --> 01:39:22,633 because at 5 o'clock she's up in our office taking notes in executive session. And then 1107 01:39:23,900 --> 01:39:26,600 back at 6.30, trying to get the meeting started. So if it's 5 o'clock, 1108 01:39:28,233 --> 01:39:30,933 they can prep in advance. Is, I think, why you came up with that. Yes. And, honestly, 1109 01:39:32,267 --> 01:39:34,600 5 o'clock is the latest of any surrounding city. Some 1110 01:39:36,467 --> 01:39:39,900 require them the day before, so like monday. Others require it to be done by noon. I found one that allowed it to be by 4 1111 01:39:42,533 --> 01:39:45,000 o'clock if the meeting started at 630. And so it does, 1112 01:39:50,433 --> 01:39:53,433 it does complicate things to be able to gather all that information and get it 1113 01:39:55,733 --> 01:39:59,533 transferred to all of you and in an efficient manner. Just because we're already 1114 01:40:01,300 --> 01:40:04,167 in a meeting at the time. So I, you know, we're already double-duty at that point. 1115 01:40:08,367 --> 01:40:11,500 so while it's not impossible, I would just say that it just, 1116 01:40:14,467 --> 01:40:17,467 it does complicate things. I guess if we do five, sorry. Okay. If we do by five o'clock, 1117 01:40:19,000 --> 01:40:22,467 but we leave the blue cards open until later, or something like that. I like that idea. 1118 01:40:23,533 --> 01:40:27,000 but that's another thing that needs to be correct. I just would like another, I mean, I don't know. No, that's fine. 1119 01:40:28,767 --> 01:40:31,667 I just, I just personally don't, I like the way we're 1120 01:40:33,133 --> 01:40:36,533 going. I like adding structure. I just don't personally I see the need to. And I just need clarity so 1121 01:40:37,567 --> 01:40:38,667 we can write the ordinance the right way. Right. That's all. 1122 01:40:43,167 --> 01:40:46,600 so if we're going to do a mix of blue cards and electronic, 1123 01:40:47,233 --> 01:40:51,000 the potential issue there is that nobody is going to use the electronics. We're 1124 01:40:52,133 --> 01:40:55,900 just doing blue cards, and we're not solving the issue. That's fair. And then if you're 1125 01:40:57,067 --> 01:41:00,667 trying to prioritize timing and meetings, like right now, most of the speakers, 1126 01:41:02,100 --> 01:41:04,833 they just fill the blue card. Because that's the way. They've always done it. 1127 01:41:06,467 --> 01:41:07,667 right. Right? But we've got quite a few people that want 1128 01:41:11,733 --> 01:41:15,733 to speak during citizen input that probably would have gladly filed online yesterday or today at 430. And I'm not trying to be difficult. I just want 1129 01:41:16,800 --> 01:41:19,867 to make sure we get it right. Yeah. That's where I'm coming from, and I feel like there's been enough nuances 1130 01:41:21,133 --> 01:41:25,000 between what everybody said, that the smart thing to do or not. My opinion about the smart thing 1131 01:41:26,233 --> 01:41:28,400 to do would be to take another look at it. Just pause. I definitely concur 1132 01:41:30,467 --> 01:41:32,533 with brian. That's brian. Weed. What? Livingston, sorry. 1133 01:41:36,967 --> 01:41:40,100 livingston, sorry. Yeah, definitely, I'm for progress using electronic. 1134 01:41:41,667 --> 01:41:45,367 we need to keep the paper. I'm for opening it up, no time 1135 01:41:46,767 --> 01:41:46,767 limit, because, 1136 01:41:51,567 --> 01:41:54,900 like councilman thacker said, someone may get it may get moved and say they want 1137 01:41:56,333 --> 01:41:59,767 to speak and, you know, they're trying to fumble with their phone and stuff. 1138 01:42:01,533 --> 01:42:05,033 and the blue card allows them to do it real quickly and give it to christy. Because I've 1139 01:42:06,333 --> 01:42:10,233 seen people, you know, come up after the meeting has started and handing in a blue card. 1140 01:42:12,467 --> 01:42:14,733 I've seen it more times than not that happens. So, again, 1141 01:42:17,533 --> 01:42:20,867 I want to give people an opportunity. If they're running late or they're not sure, 1142 01:42:22,200 --> 01:42:25,067 and then they decide they want to speak. Let him do it. So I want to keep the time limit 1143 01:42:26,367 --> 01:42:29,433 open. All right, well, to move us along. I think there's enough support, maybe, to table it and 1144 01:42:31,033 --> 01:42:34,667 have another bite at the apple. Um, give staff time to finalize some of the changes they heard tonight and 1145 01:42:35,900 --> 01:42:38,400 then take final action at our next meeting. Make a motion to no. Mayor, sorry, 1146 01:42:40,133 --> 01:42:43,100 you still got more items? I mean, I don't I'm hearing 1147 01:42:44,500 --> 01:42:47,633 what, what jared is saying, but I've not heard consensus from the council. I don't so what do you want 1148 01:42:49,267 --> 01:42:51,500 us to write? That's what I'm saying. So if we want to come 1149 01:42:53,300 --> 01:42:57,000 back and talk about this in another work session, I'd like us to each send you, can 1150 01:42:57,800 --> 01:43:01,133 we send you our comments and thoughts after the meeting tonight? Well, we need to give clear direction 1151 01:43:01,867 --> 01:43:04,767 for what they're supposed to be doing, and they need to know that they have a consensus of counsel. And so this is my 1152 01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:08,500 birthday. I'd love to go home. Yeah, I bet. So I'm 1153 01:43:10,467 --> 01:43:13,433 not trying to be difficult. I just need direction. I'm not trying to be difficult either. I just want to make sure we get 1154 01:43:14,800 --> 01:43:18,200 it right. I agree. I would say that let's bring it back to another work session to have another conversation. Because, 1155 01:43:19,133 --> 01:43:23,133 one, for efficiency. For this evening, we can send you all our thoughts of considerations. 1156 01:43:24,267 --> 01:43:27,533 you can understand where each of us are coming from. But then ultimately we can come back, 1157 01:43:28,733 --> 01:43:32,600 have a conversation, another debate in another setting where you can go enjoy 1158 01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:35,767 your birthday cake. Well, I mean, every time we do a work 1159 01:43:37,933 --> 01:43:41,000 session, that's, I mean, I think we could handle that at a council meeting. I mean, 1160 01:43:42,133 --> 01:43:46,067 I think really, kind of the only item that's maybe I'm hearing not a majority 1161 01:43:47,200 --> 01:43:50,167 comfortable. Is this cutoff time, right? And so cutoff 1162 01:43:56,667 --> 01:43:58,800 time and whether or not we keep the blue cards or not. Right. Yeah, I think that's kind 1163 01:44:00,867 --> 01:44:03,800 of together with it. Now, the city attorney's already said we'll do blue cards if people cannot figure out. Like, we're 1164 01:44:04,900 --> 01:44:08,300 going to accommodate a registration process, right? We're trying to point people to the electronic. We're trying 1165 01:44:09,400 --> 01:44:12,200 to train. That's the way to do it. That's the easiest way to do it. You know, 1166 01:44:14,900 --> 01:44:17,867 but if we're going to accommodate other ways, so that's already baked 1167 01:44:19,367 --> 01:44:22,267 into it. So, really, it comes down to the cutoff time, right? So just for my clarity, 1168 01:44:24,367 --> 01:44:27,967 so the purpose of sending this back is not to discuss lowering this from five minutes to three minutes, but only 1169 01:44:29,967 --> 01:44:32,833 about the cutoff time and also whether or not we're going 1170 01:44:35,133 --> 01:44:38,633 fully electronic. That's it. Council can talk about anything they want if it comes back. I 1171 01:44:39,867 --> 01:44:43,200 think the time can change their mind. Yeah, is to postpone it, to think about it more. That's what I'm 1172 01:44:46,133 --> 01:44:49,700 asking. That's a great idea. I third that. Okay. I will take that as a motion by brian 1173 01:44:51,000 --> 01:44:52,833 to table to the following council meeting. I'm trying 1174 01:44:55,333 --> 01:44:55,333 to give direction. Second. It 1175 01:45:02,933 --> 01:45:05,333 sounds like the only change council will be expecting you 1176 01:45:07,033 --> 01:45:10,567 is maybe the third item. We may still have some discussion on the others. Council, I mean, 1177 01:45:13,033 --> 01:45:15,833 the third item means the non-agenda can go wherever you want it to go? It's basically 1178 01:45:17,433 --> 01:45:21,033 going to stay how it is. It's going to, the change is going to be removed from the ordinance as far as, it'll be on the 1179 01:45:22,600 --> 01:45:25,600 agenda. And then depending on when people, you know, sign 1180 01:45:27,200 --> 01:45:30,167 up, that's how it will be prioritized. The third item 1181 01:45:32,800 --> 01:45:36,467 being the cutoff time and the blue cards. That's, those are the two. Okay. That's the second item. I mean, we're not 1182 01:45:37,033 --> 01:45:40,300 asking, council still needs to have a discussion on that. But I think the third item. Is already direction to change the ordinance? Yes, I 1183 01:45:42,767 --> 01:45:46,167 can, uh. Motion by brian, second, second, second by jared, all in favor. Aye, that 1184 01:45:47,733 --> 01:45:49,800 passes um, six, zero. Um. So that was our last regular city, 1185 01:45:52,600 --> 01:45:56,333 regular gen item, so now we will go 1186 01:45:57,800 --> 01:46:01,367 to public input. Citizen okay, so we do have quite a few this evening. Um, I will 1187 01:46:02,167 --> 01:46:05,933 say your name and then I will give the next person after you. If you could come to the podium, please state your name and address 1188 01:46:07,333 --> 01:46:10,833 for the record, that would be fantastic at the podium. You will see your time clock and, 1189 01:46:13,600 --> 01:46:16,900 as you saw with the agenda earlier. It will beep at you once you get close 1190 01:46:18,633 --> 01:46:22,400 to time, and then it will beep at you again once you or your five minutes are up. So first we have mark palaciano, next we 1191 01:46:24,500 --> 01:46:24,500 have kelly smith. Hello, 1192 01:46:35,100 --> 01:46:38,533 tyrants. I have you guys exposing yourselves tonight. Y'all are doing an excellent 1193 01:46:40,800 --> 01:46:44,333 job, showing everyone your disdain for the first amendment. Of course, you're reducing the time limit 1194 01:46:45,567 --> 01:46:49,000 from five minutes to three minutes. You guys are proving the pressure that I'm applying is working. You guys 1195 01:46:50,067 --> 01:46:54,033 have no respect for the first amendment, and you act like we're being disrespectful for saying things you don't 1196 01:46:55,400 --> 01:46:58,833 like. Nice virtue signaling, ann. But I wouldn't feel safe having elected officials in 1197 01:46:59,967 --> 01:47:03,367 america who don't respect the united states constitution and first amendment. Do you even 1198 01:47:05,567 --> 01:47:08,733 know why I started coming here in april last year to speak? Because t-mobile got me 1199 01:47:10,333 --> 01:47:13,900 censored and shadow banned on every social media platform I was using to expose them as a 1200 01:47:15,367 --> 01:47:18,500 whistleblower. And I knew this was the only place I could come where t-mobile couldn't have me 1201 01:47:20,233 --> 01:47:23,300 deleted from the internet. The first amendment is dying because of tyrants like you all 1202 01:47:25,167 --> 01:47:29,167 and tyrannical companies like t-mobile. And tonight, you're proving it even more. Mayor cheney, the last time you 1203 01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:33,567 talked about ethics and how you're compliant with the law, does that include 1204 01:47:35,033 --> 01:47:38,900 the time your 18-year-old son hosted a graduation party where underage people were drinking alcohol and doing keg stands 1205 01:47:40,633 --> 01:47:40,633 in your backyard? Face a bunch 1206 01:48:00,200 --> 01:48:03,233 of 18 year olds drinking in your backyard. Let me play, uh, well, let me, 1207 01:48:04,633 --> 01:48:08,300 I already played your snapchat. I found that interesting, especially since someone filed an ethics 1208 01:48:09,733 --> 01:48:13,600 complaint about it and the city council shut it down. Also, I have a lot of respect for the frisco police department. 1209 01:48:14,700 --> 01:48:17,800 but now I'm curious as to why they didn't show up to your house. When there were 911 calls about this party, 1210 01:48:19,233 --> 01:48:21,933 maybe the police chief knows more about that. Why wasn't there any more investigation? I 1211 01:48:23,567 --> 01:48:27,000 know if it were me or anyone else in the audience hosting underage kids drinking alcohol 1212 01:48:28,767 --> 01:48:31,900 on our property, we would have went to jail and been prosecuted for it. But since it was the 1213 01:48:33,267 --> 01:48:36,800 mayor of frisco, nothing happens. Maybe it's just another odd coincidence, like your net 1214 01:48:38,333 --> 01:48:41,667 worth exploding while being the mayor. Frisco is cooked. This city is done. You may as well 1215 01:48:43,333 --> 01:48:46,200 change the city name to mumbai, because in a few years, this entire 1216 01:48:47,900 --> 01:48:51,033 city council and mayor will be indian. Last meeting helped prove my point. A bunch of woke 1217 01:48:52,900 --> 01:48:55,867 boomers showed up and virtue signal. While completely not understanding what we're 1218 01:48:58,000 --> 01:49:01,867 talking about. How many of them do you think reached out to me to try and understand more about what I'm exposing? Not a 1219 01:49:02,967 --> 01:49:06,400 single one, even though their entire message was built on with communicating with people. In a few years, 1220 01:49:07,800 --> 01:49:10,767 they'll be sitting in a retirement home needing someone to take care of them, and 1221 01:49:12,100 --> 01:49:15,400 frisco will be completely unrecognizable. I've heard from a lot of frisco residents about the schools here being 1222 01:49:16,400 --> 01:49:19,867 70% indian kids. That is not diversity. This is an indian takeover, and the rate it's 1223 01:49:21,533 --> 01:49:24,567 happening will continue to increase. Over the last few weeks, I've visited a lot 1224 01:49:26,567 --> 01:49:29,400 of companies with h-1b employees registered 1225 01:49:30,767 --> 01:49:33,600 to them. Do you know what I saw? Ghost offices. Empty offices with businesses registered to them, and tons 1226 01:49:34,967 --> 01:49:37,933 of h-1b employees that were supposed to be there, but weren't. You guys want 1227 01:49:39,367 --> 01:49:42,200 to call me an outside agitator, but I'm a lifelong dallas texan, and what's going on 1228 01:49:43,900 --> 01:49:47,433 with h-1b and the shadiness behind it affects me where I live. People are speaking 1229 01:49:48,733 --> 01:49:52,333 at the plano city council about this issue. The same issue in prosper. The same issue in irving. All of you 1230 01:49:53,533 --> 01:49:57,500 elected officials say it's a federal problem. But I bet if you found me breaking a federal law, your frisco police 1231 01:49:59,167 --> 01:50:02,933 department would engage the feds to prosecute me. But it's funny how that same mindset doesn't work with h-1b visa 1232 01:50:04,733 --> 01:50:07,733 fraud. I can promise you right now, you haven't even seen the attention that you're going 1233 01:50:09,367 --> 01:50:13,267 to get with h-1b and the indian takeover. There are a lot of journalists with big platforms digging 1234 01:50:14,833 --> 01:50:18,567 into what's going on, and there's going to be a day when it goes really viral. And just so you guys know, 1235 01:50:20,133 --> 01:50:24,133 I'm personally being targeted by indians. Indians are now violating federal law with how they've targeted me 1236 01:50:25,633 --> 01:50:28,500 with spam calls. My phone rings over 30 times a day, when it used to go days or weeks 1237 01:50:30,600 --> 01:50:34,100 without ringing. And on top of federal law, they're breaking state law with targeted harassment. But I'm sure none 1238 01:50:34,967 --> 01:50:38,333 of you care, because none of you serve your oath to the constitutions. And as a reminder, t-mobile is the 1239 01:50:39,767 --> 01:50:42,600 biggest private sector employer in frisco, and they're laying off texans while opening up a 1240 01:50:43,833 --> 01:50:46,733 new office in hyderabad, india. And the whole reason I speak here is because t-mobile 1241 01:50:47,867 --> 01:50:51,100 violated my constitutional rights in their office in frisco, texas. At warren 1242 01:50:52,367 --> 01:50:55,433 parkway and the tollway. I've exposed how they use diversity, equity, inclusion 1243 01:50:56,533 --> 01:50:59,400 to discriminate against americans, how they censor text messages during covid, how they 1244 01:51:00,667 --> 01:51:03,767 provide unlimited money for transgender surgeries. And, in fact, 1245 01:51:04,867 --> 01:51:08,567 let me play a little clip of a video of a t-mobile employee sharing their transition surgery 1246 01:51:09,767 --> 01:51:13,333 on a company website, on a company webcast. My top surgery. And so with the dreams 1247 01:51:14,400 --> 01:51:17,200 we're beginning to this is what you get for supporting t mobile. Kelly smith, 1248 01:51:48,267 --> 01:51:49,533 after that we have blake. Hey guys, glad I can 1249 01:51:56,833 --> 01:52:00,833 come up here and give this speech before we turn into europe. I dove deeper and looked into some housing. 1250 01:52:02,533 --> 01:52:05,467 several homes are being bought. The owner is returning to india and renting out every 1251 01:52:07,067 --> 01:52:09,800 room. Some of these homes are even listed as homesteaded on the cad tax wise, even 1252 01:52:14,133 --> 01:52:17,200 though it's being used as a mini-apartment building with the owner in india. And that makes sense, considering 1253 01:52:18,500 --> 01:52:22,400 all the tech companies hiring h-1b employees that are being ran out of them. This advertisement says they will sell a home to an indian family 1254 01:52:23,733 --> 01:52:27,100 for $136,000 less than the advertised price. Registered llcs are buying up properties 1255 01:52:29,067 --> 01:52:32,033 in collin county and only selling to indians and muslims. It's right here. 1256 01:52:33,300 --> 01:52:36,767 there is clear and consistent housing discrimination going on, and the major demographics 1257 01:52:38,200 --> 01:52:41,067 change is further proof of this. Harry whalen flew to india to beg them all 1258 01:52:43,333 --> 01:52:47,100 to come here. There is something like 22,000 h-1b filings in the frisco area 1259 01:52:48,400 --> 01:52:51,233 alone. I thought city council was supposed to represent the taxpayers. I'm pretty sure 1260 01:52:53,100 --> 01:52:56,067 nobody voted to be replaced with india, yet here we are, and this is starting to affect 1261 01:52:57,700 --> 01:52:59,933 the surrounding cities. I'm going to stand up 1262 01:53:01,867 --> 01:53:04,033 for the white kids for a second because I've got two of them. And my daughters don't know 1263 01:53:06,067 --> 01:53:09,300 where they fit into in this country anymore because of what's going on. In 1999, frisco was a rapidly growing 1264 01:53:10,333 --> 01:53:13,600 suburban district with a predominantly white demographic. Tossed test scores exceeded the state averages, 1265 01:53:14,867 --> 01:53:18,133 and the district gained recognition for quality schools. These kids are now 1266 01:53:20,900 --> 01:53:23,800 being downplayed as if they are not intelligent enough to work in their own country. 1267 01:53:25,633 --> 01:53:28,400 microsoft, apple, google, facebook, nvidia, all american-made companies. Dell 1268 01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:33,033 was founded by a university of texas at austin graduate. William higginbotham of 1269 01:53:34,533 --> 01:53:37,600 connecticut created the first video game. Steve russell, an mit student, created 1270 01:53:39,833 --> 01:53:42,700 spaceway, the first game to be played across multiple installations. I could go 1271 01:53:44,400 --> 01:53:48,167 on and on. Americans are forefront, top-tier innovators 1272 01:53:48,567 --> 01:53:51,767 and inventors. Why is our own government failing us? And letting other countries take away our jobs and not investing 1273 01:53:52,867 --> 01:53:56,467 into its own people. The texas house passed house bill 2038, streamlining foreign 1274 01:53:58,667 --> 01:54:01,667 doctors into our system. When our own federal government capped spending 1275 01:54:02,967 --> 01:54:05,733 to fund required residency for its own american doctors in 1997, we need 1276 01:54:07,633 --> 01:54:11,133 to support our american doctors. On my dad's side, I'm a texan through and 1277 01:54:12,567 --> 01:54:16,533 through. I have a county named after my family. My brother serves in the united states 1278 01:54:18,500 --> 01:54:22,000 navy to support my right to free speech. On my mom's side, I'm a third-generation 1279 01:54:24,467 --> 01:54:27,167 italian immigrant. When my italian family came here from sicily, they did not get 1280 01:54:28,967 --> 01:54:31,733 government handouts. There was no welfare, no direct job placement, just 1281 01:54:33,033 --> 01:54:36,000 for being italian. They had to learn english and create work for themselves out 1282 01:54:37,767 --> 01:54:41,733 of thin air. They had to become innovative and embody the american spirit of creating something out 1283 01:54:42,967 --> 01:54:46,000 of nothing. They spoke italian and celebrated their heritage at home, but the moment 1284 01:54:47,300 --> 01:54:49,967 they walked out of the front door, they were americans first. This is my pop-pop. 1285 01:54:51,633 --> 01:54:55,467 look at that american flag. That's the difference between the immigrants back in 1286 01:54:56,733 --> 01:55:00,067 the day and the immigrants coming now. I'm really confused as to what country we live in. 1287 01:55:01,467 --> 01:55:05,067 these people are coming here, they're taking away jobs, they're piggybacking on systems 1288 01:55:06,767 --> 01:55:09,600 that were already built and put into place. We need to bring back the american 1289 01:55:11,400 --> 01:55:14,467 worker, support our american companies, doctors, and future generations, instead of just 1290 01:55:15,733 --> 01:55:19,567 giving our country away. Greg abbott if you hear this, you're a coward for selling 1291 01:55:20,933 --> 01:55:23,800 out texas the way you did. Frisco city council is even worse for exploiting the city 1292 01:55:25,267 --> 01:55:28,100 and surrounding areas for profit over its own texan kids and citizens. Was harry 1293 01:55:29,833 --> 01:55:33,733 weyland aware that the united states commission on international religious 1294 01:55:34,700 --> 01:55:38,633 freedom is calling our government to name india a country of particular concern? They are dragging christian 1295 01:55:40,533 --> 01:55:44,500 preachers in the streets, beating them with bats, and forcing them 1296 01:55:45,333 --> 01:55:48,200 to eat cow dung. You guys only care about money. Not the aftermath of bringing a culture 1297 01:55:49,600 --> 01:55:52,900 here that isn't assimilating and could care less about america. Texas isn't just one 1298 01:55:54,800 --> 01:55:58,633 big business park. It's our home. It's our legacy to pass down to our children. The land, 1299 01:56:00,200 --> 01:56:03,100 the natural resources, the water. Texas needs to be treated as more than an 1300 01:56:04,367 --> 01:56:06,967 investment for foreign interests. Our traditions and traditions and our country 1301 01:56:08,867 --> 01:56:11,900 matter, but we will not survive at this rate of infiltration. I hope the money is worth it. 1302 01:56:13,367 --> 01:56:13,367 god bless y'all. Kaylee, 1303 01:56:22,700 --> 01:56:26,000 seaver and then clayton, york. Good evening, council. 1304 01:56:45,000 --> 01:56:47,333 first, I want to thank these two gentlemen on the end for speaking up for the first 1305 01:56:49,033 --> 01:56:51,500 amendment. And the opposition to limiting the ability for 1306 01:56:54,467 --> 01:56:57,933 public input. And then I'm going to address the public to address the public input. Because claiming it's been a 1307 01:56:59,067 --> 01:57:01,667 long thought process and not a immediate reaction to propose these changes doesn't seem 1308 01:57:04,633 --> 01:57:07,733 entirely true. Here's an excerpt from community impact on this topic from february 1309 01:57:09,233 --> 01:57:12,900 19th. A non agenda item could be a city related issue, mayor jeff cheney said. It 1310 01:57:14,200 --> 01:57:16,100 could be. I know it's not on the agenda, but I still want 1311 01:57:18,367 --> 01:57:22,167 you to not build the dog part next to my neighborhood, and I'm going to come every 1312 01:57:24,267 --> 01:57:27,467 meeting and tell you that. This is not the first time city council has considered 1313 01:57:29,500 --> 01:57:33,267 changing its rules regarding public comment. City attorney richard abernathy said council members previously asked him 1314 01:57:34,567 --> 01:57:37,633 to review their options for changing the public comment policy when there was an issue about the palestinians. 1315 01:57:39,333 --> 01:57:42,733 quote, particularly young people came every council meeting, asking the council to pass a resolution. We came 1316 01:57:45,467 --> 01:57:48,633 back with a bunch of suggestions. It was decided not to do anything at the time 1317 01:57:49,867 --> 01:57:53,433 because the council didn't think it was the right time. So why is now the right time? 1318 01:57:54,567 --> 01:57:57,400 cheney said city council has opted against changing the 1319 01:57:58,900 --> 01:58:02,033 public comment policy in the past because council members assume the situation won't 1320 01:58:03,333 --> 01:58:06,233 eventually pass. Now, council members are reconsidering rule changes because they believe 1321 01:58:07,567 --> 01:58:11,233 what occurred on february 3rd may not be a one-time issue. Quote, it has always been where agitators have moved along, 1322 01:58:13,100 --> 01:58:14,567 and so then three or four months go by, we have normal 1323 01:58:19,567 --> 01:58:22,800 citizen input, whatever that means, and then we just kind of forget about it, cheney said. But it's becoming 1324 01:58:25,467 --> 01:58:26,667 increasingly likely that this is not going to go away. End 1325 01:58:30,967 --> 01:58:34,067 quote. Three, five minutes, it doesn't matter. Some of you clearly don't listen 1326 01:58:36,167 --> 01:58:38,633 to each other. Like, you don't listen to us, you clearly aren't listening to each other. 1327 01:58:40,933 --> 01:58:44,633 why would you listen to us? Now I'll address what I was here to actually talk about. In 2024, frisco ranked number 1328 01:58:45,400 --> 01:58:47,500 eight in texas for h-1b approvals, the same year that ms. Kelly was talking about 1329 01:58:49,600 --> 01:58:52,733 the director of economic development accompanying the governor in 1330 01:58:54,167 --> 01:58:57,633 flying to mobile. As of right now, 33 h-1b dependent companies are registered 1331 01:58:59,300 --> 01:59:02,367 to one building on warren parkway, an h-1b ghost office. That I went and saw three days 1332 01:59:04,133 --> 01:59:06,067 in a row this week. Empty. No one there. Lights off. I got 1333 01:59:08,267 --> 01:59:11,200 pictures. They also run a foreign investment construction fund, which is building that 1334 01:59:13,067 --> 01:59:15,133 same strip right there on coit, donated to a member 1335 01:59:17,633 --> 01:59:21,267 of this council. A restaurant off preston has been caught only hiring f1 students and 1336 01:59:23,100 --> 01:59:26,600 paying them cash under the table. Now, maybe tonight's facebook post will 1337 01:59:27,600 --> 01:59:30,433 contain h-1b visas or federal issue outside agitators came to spew hate, but does 1338 01:59:32,400 --> 01:59:35,167 anyone really believe that the trip to a foreign country doesn't impact the city of 1339 01:59:36,500 --> 01:59:38,600 frisco? Could he not have said no and commit a hundred percent 1340 01:59:41,700 --> 01:59:45,333 to the economic development of frisco and its citizens already here? If the city official can intermingle 1341 01:59:47,367 --> 01:59:50,167 in foreign affairs, which one could say is also a federal issue, what is stopping the city 1342 01:59:52,000 --> 01:59:54,733 from staying right here? And adopting a resolution requesting state and federal 1343 01:59:56,567 --> 01:59:58,233 authorities to investigate the fraud in the city. Nothing 1344 02:00:01,267 --> 02:00:05,100 in state law prohibits the city council from adopting a resolution that formally requests an investigation 1345 02:00:06,133 --> 02:00:09,700 from entities like the texas ag, attorney general, the state auditor's office, the 1346 02:00:12,333 --> 02:00:15,967 fbi, department of justice, or any agencies under the federal jurisdiction. There's already a 1347 02:00:17,633 --> 02:00:20,967 petition with over 200 signatures requesting this action. But instead, 1348 02:00:23,067 --> 02:00:26,700 we've gotten these proposals to change public input, social media posts calling citizens' 1349 02:00:28,933 --> 02:00:32,767 names, and then literally the next sentence calling for unity, unless you get blocked, cheney. That's lazy 1350 02:00:34,800 --> 02:00:38,400 leadership. You haven't addressed anything. You just made it easier for you 1351 02:00:40,067 --> 02:00:42,033 to not hear criticism. We would like answers, action, not 1352 02:00:45,267 --> 02:00:46,233 facebook posts, and then protections for you. 1353 02:00:49,367 --> 02:00:49,367 thank you. Clayton, york. And 1354 02:00:57,133 --> 02:00:57,133 then next is martin petetti. 1355 02:01:06,767 --> 02:01:08,200 hello, sir. I am sanjay gutpa. I am transracial indian. Sir, I 1356 02:01:12,033 --> 02:01:15,600 just want to say thank you for everything you're doing for the indian community. We need 10,000 more h-1bs. 1357 02:01:17,000 --> 02:01:20,133 to stand in solidarity with the indian community, I've stopped using the city garbage 1358 02:01:21,300 --> 02:01:23,933 service, and I've started throwing my trash outside and pooping everywhere. I love 1359 02:01:25,733 --> 02:01:29,667 poop. The city smells too clean and it is offensive to me and my culture. And I need it to smell more 1360 02:01:30,700 --> 02:01:34,100 like poop so I can feel at home. I also ask that we remove all deodorant and soap from the stores and frisco. Is 1361 02:01:35,667 --> 02:01:38,633 it offensive? Shout out vivek ramaswamy and shout out kash 1362 02:01:40,267 --> 02:01:43,367 patel. We need to legalize public defecation. Thank you. Martin, martin 1363 02:01:58,400 --> 02:01:59,467 pedetti, and then after that, paul jessen. City council 1364 02:02:05,333 --> 02:02:08,367 members and respected mayor, I'm not criticizing anyone, you can laugh. And I don't 1365 02:02:10,667 --> 02:02:13,100 like to disrespect any country's flag on this floor. 1366 02:02:21,367 --> 02:02:25,367 let's respect each other. We are all here, we all live together. Okay, my name is 1367 02:02:26,567 --> 02:02:29,900 martin pariti. I live in majestic gardens on west frisco. I ran into the primaries. 1368 02:02:32,867 --> 02:02:34,433 recent elections and I'm not here for campaign speech. 1369 02:02:37,367 --> 02:02:39,833 and I ran for a justice of peace in denton county prison, too, 1370 02:02:42,000 --> 02:02:45,133 and I got closely, like a 2400 votes. And during my campaign, I listened a lot of people. 1371 02:02:47,033 --> 02:02:49,533 they said people are getting evicted and I didn't realize 1372 02:02:51,467 --> 02:02:53,233 it's a true story or the people are telling the lies. Then I 1373 02:02:55,500 --> 02:02:59,467 went to my fellow judge friend and took court and sit into the eviction process 1374 02:03:01,133 --> 02:03:04,700 in one week. And I saw 80% of the people are getting evicted, and all of these people are 1375 02:03:06,200 --> 02:03:10,000 from the job loss. And then I realized, I asked a couple of questions, why? This is related to the job loss. They 1376 02:03:11,133 --> 02:03:15,033 said that they are all related to the tech jobs, because they have been replaced with the foreign workers. I 1377 02:03:16,300 --> 02:03:19,067 know this night, a lot of people saying about india, indians occupying and all that 1378 02:03:20,700 --> 02:03:23,333 story. We have a solution here. We have a lot of people here talking 1379 02:03:24,800 --> 02:03:27,933 about ordinance. We talked about an ordinance, and I wanted to introduce what 1380 02:03:29,067 --> 02:03:32,867 this ordinance means. The ordinance is a city law that has the same power as your federal and state government. 1381 02:03:34,200 --> 02:03:36,233 you have the law here, and I'm requesting this night all the 1382 02:03:39,833 --> 02:03:43,267 city council members and issue an ordinance. In the h-1b, f-1b, visa fraud is prohibited. 1383 02:03:45,033 --> 02:03:45,033 do you will? Because all these 1384 02:03:49,100 --> 02:03:52,667 people are blaming indians and because a few people are doing something wrong and we have a 1385 02:03:54,700 --> 02:03:57,900 ghost companies. And if you go to any restaurants, you can see students are 1386 02:03:59,267 --> 02:04:02,200 working in the restaurants. So these people did not come here to study, they are coming here 1387 02:04:04,367 --> 02:04:07,500 to settle down. So you can fix the issue, pass an ordinance law, you can make frisco proud. 1388 02:04:08,767 --> 02:04:12,433 we all wanted to live together. We don't want this to be continuing for every week, continuing all this time. So, I 1389 02:04:13,467 --> 02:04:17,333 humbly request all the city council members, try to see if there is a possibility. You can issue an ordinance so that we 1390 02:04:18,167 --> 02:04:21,300 can declare there is no visa fraud is encouraged in this city. That will make 1391 02:04:22,800 --> 02:04:25,933 the frisco proud, that will make united. Thank you so much. This is paul 1392 02:04:35,067 --> 02:04:37,367 jessen. After that, we have sehas kaul. I told you, these 1393 02:05:08,800 --> 02:05:08,800 meetings were entertaining. I 1394 02:05:13,267 --> 02:05:17,133 don't know if that light's going to be out there for me tonight, but just wanted to make sure 1395 02:05:18,700 --> 02:05:20,733 that maybe there'd be some work done on it. My name is paul 1396 02:05:23,667 --> 02:05:26,433 jessen. Paul, I know you intend well, but please don't do that again. I have an eye issue, 1397 02:05:29,733 --> 02:05:33,233 and I've been helped to go to the doctor because of the flash. I'm sorry. I can't have 1398 02:05:35,400 --> 02:05:39,200 bright lights. Thank you. I know you wasn't it was cute. I'll leave it out. Thank you. 1399 02:05:40,133 --> 02:05:42,600 I'll just do verbal. No props. Thank you. Thank you. And 1400 02:05:46,367 --> 02:05:50,133 by the way, I appreciate the correction I got last time. I misunderstood the dynamics. So 1401 02:05:52,000 --> 02:05:55,367 by knowing that, I can do what I need to do properly. So I appreciate 1402 02:05:56,733 --> 02:05:59,933 that. I like being corrected, especially when I'm wrong. So that's good. I want to talk about two things briefly, 1403 02:06:02,067 --> 02:06:04,100 I hope. One of them is this paper that you're probably 1404 02:06:08,200 --> 02:06:11,833 familiar with. It's got 130 businesses from the rail district, and they're still, 1405 02:06:14,367 --> 02:06:18,000 just haven't been clarified. For me. Whether the fact that 1406 02:06:22,933 --> 02:06:26,000 businesses have gone out of business, that shouldn't have 1407 02:06:27,033 --> 02:06:30,667 gone out of business, based upon the decision, and whether intentional or not, 1408 02:06:32,833 --> 02:06:35,167 you just have a result. Oops, these people need to be reimbursed for being businesses here, 1409 02:06:36,967 --> 02:06:40,267 ready for 10, 15, 20 years and all of a sudden going out of business because 1410 02:06:41,667 --> 02:06:45,100 of what happened to it. Just in talking to a lot of people around frisco, there's a lot 1411 02:06:46,833 --> 02:06:50,667 of small businessmen looking at this and saying, hey, if they can do that to their rail district, maybe they can do it to us. So 1412 02:06:51,933 --> 02:06:55,433 it's an optic thing, if not a real thing, that probably needs to be addressed. Second thing I 1413 02:07:00,667 --> 02:07:01,733 wanted to mention was prop 10 on the election. And I think 1414 02:07:05,933 --> 02:07:08,633 the exact wording was texas should prohibit sharia law and the islamic legal code in 1415 02:07:11,333 --> 02:07:11,333 texas. 94.6% agreed 1416 02:07:18,033 --> 02:07:20,700 with that. And this has nothing to do with being, with freedom 1417 02:07:23,667 --> 02:07:26,133 of religion, freedom of anything else. It's just that there's a law thing that 1418 02:07:28,000 --> 02:07:31,667 is if you look at it, it's fairly inconsistent with our laws in terms of the 1419 02:07:33,333 --> 02:07:35,867 constitution. So the answer is, why would there be such a huge 1420 02:07:39,767 --> 02:07:43,067 94% thing on that? One could be, if we look at the history, 1421 02:07:44,600 --> 02:07:48,267 george washington was asked as president, what was your toughest part of your 1422 02:07:50,933 --> 02:07:53,867 presidency? And he said, islam. And then adams didn't do anything about it, 1423 02:07:56,133 --> 02:07:57,733 but jefferson was in on this. He said, wait a minute. What is 1424 02:08:00,400 --> 02:08:04,133 the real deal? Because over in the barbary coast off of africa, right where libya is, 1425 02:08:06,567 --> 02:08:09,867 our merchant marines were being attacked by the barbary pirates and killed and sold 1426 02:08:12,633 --> 02:08:16,133 into slavery. And stuff like that. So they got a meeting together in london, said, guys, what is going on? 1427 02:08:17,467 --> 02:08:20,033 we've been very respectful. We've not done anything. Why are you doing this to us? And 1428 02:08:21,700 --> 02:08:24,833 the response from the leadership there was, it's simple. Our book says, you're infidels. 1429 02:08:26,133 --> 02:08:29,467 therefore, we get to kill you and do what we do to you. And when the word got 1430 02:08:30,533 --> 02:08:32,100 back to jefferson, he basically said, just deal with it. And 1431 02:08:35,900 --> 02:08:38,733 people don't know this, but the leatherneck, the marines are called 1432 02:08:41,033 --> 02:08:44,567 leathernecks. And that was to prevent the sword from the other side. And then, 1433 02:08:46,300 --> 02:08:49,867 in the marine hymn, it says, from the halls of montezuma to the shores of tripoli. 1434 02:08:52,033 --> 02:08:55,767 that's where this took place. And they got rid of it so that our merchant marine would be 1435 02:08:57,100 --> 02:09:00,733 safe and no longer be harassed. So there seems 1436 02:09:03,400 --> 02:09:05,033 to be a difference. And I appreciated the, who was it, 1437 02:09:10,267 --> 02:09:11,333 distinguishing. We treat all religions alike. I agree 1438 02:09:16,267 --> 02:09:19,233 with that. But islam, what does that mean? Oh, okay. Islam seems to be more a political ideology that does not want 1439 02:09:20,400 --> 02:09:23,533 to adapt and contribute. But take over and dominate. And so there is a wondering why 1440 02:09:28,367 --> 02:09:31,800 all this is there, and maybe there needs to be 1441 02:09:33,467 --> 02:09:33,467 some more discussion. I think I 1442 02:09:37,733 --> 02:09:41,133 mentioned that quote before, that some only fools say we should not discuss religion and 1443 02:09:42,567 --> 02:09:44,433 politics. Why? Because then thieves keep their power and 1444 02:09:48,433 --> 02:09:51,433 false prophets keep teaching. So we need to clarify what really is happening, 1445 02:09:53,067 --> 02:09:57,033 what really are the beliefs. And you look at london, you look at new york city, you look at new jersey, you look at 1446 02:09:59,467 --> 02:10:02,567 michigan, you look at minnesota, you look at all these things that are going on 1447 02:10:04,367 --> 02:10:08,133 in cities, but it's not going to happen here. People say, yeah, but it won't happen in texas. Well, that's what the 1448 02:10:09,467 --> 02:10:12,500 other people said, too. So what is it that's happening? What do we need to be aware of so we 1449 02:10:13,667 --> 02:10:15,333 can make the correct steps, make the right decisions so we 1450 02:10:17,733 --> 02:10:19,500 don't get taken over by those who are not american? Thank you. Okay, next 1451 02:10:22,233 --> 02:10:25,333 we have sehas kaul, and then after that we have neha sutran. Hello everyone, 1452 02:10:30,467 --> 02:10:31,933 my name is sehas kaul, and I've lived in frisco for 22 years. I 1453 02:10:34,500 --> 02:10:34,500 was born at texas health 1454 02:10:39,300 --> 02:10:41,700 presbyterian in plano, so I've been here for quite a while now. 1455 02:10:44,133 --> 02:10:46,633 and I feel like, with a lot of the rhetoric being said about, 1456 02:10:48,433 --> 02:10:51,100 particularly indians, I feel like I have an interesting perspective on this. Being a 1457 02:10:52,600 --> 02:10:55,400 first-generation american, with my parents migrating over in, I think, 2000, it's 1458 02:11:01,433 --> 02:11:03,667 really sad to see what's going on. The fact that I came to this 1459 02:11:06,400 --> 02:11:08,467 meeting and I saw someone bring out an indian flag, talk 1460 02:11:10,600 --> 02:11:14,533 in an indian accent, very saddening. And that's kind of, that's aside from what I was 1461 02:11:16,100 --> 02:11:17,767 going to say, but I just wanted to make that clear with 1462 02:11:20,933 --> 02:11:24,433 everyone that I don't think anyone should be applauding. That sort of behavior, and it is quite 1463 02:11:25,700 --> 02:11:28,000 saddening seeing that in my community, and it truly 1464 02:11:30,433 --> 02:11:33,067 does make me very emotional. But I feel like a divide has been created and the root cause 1465 02:11:34,767 --> 02:11:38,467 of that is misinformation. I feel like there are players that are outside 1466 02:11:40,467 --> 02:11:44,067 of our community that want to bring this rhetoric in here. And I mean, 1467 02:11:45,700 --> 02:11:48,433 I'm looking at the audience, the people that primarily made the the false claims against 1468 02:11:50,333 --> 02:11:54,167 indians, they're not even in this room anymore. They're not here to listen. They're here to just make their 1469 02:11:55,567 --> 02:11:55,567 statement and leave. And 1470 02:12:02,867 --> 02:12:06,167 it's us, as frisco, as a community, can't fall into that. It's dangerous. This misinformation causes 1471 02:12:07,433 --> 02:12:09,967 unnecessary conflicts, unnecessary stirrups, 1472 02:12:11,767 --> 02:12:15,300 and I feel like it just causes divide within our community. And, I mean, I had some statistics 1473 02:12:18,200 --> 02:12:19,500 that I wanted to talk about, but I think it's deeper than 1474 02:12:23,233 --> 02:12:24,200 that. I can say as much as I want about h-1bs, all this, 1475 02:12:27,833 --> 02:12:30,900 but, I mean with my experience here, as the indian population has grown, crime has gone down, 1476 02:12:31,967 --> 02:12:34,800 there's been a lot more economic growth. I had the 1477 02:12:36,700 --> 02:12:39,400 pleasure of talking with chief of police david shielson 1478 02:12:41,700 --> 02:12:44,300 earlier today, and he even said most cities with first class population would be envious of 1479 02:12:46,300 --> 02:12:48,133 our crime rate and our community. Anyone that really 1480 02:12:51,033 --> 02:12:51,033 wants to learn and be educated 1481 02:12:59,633 --> 02:13:02,500 and understand the perspective of someone that's within that community, 1482 02:13:03,800 --> 02:13:07,167 you can come to me, talk to me afterwards, and I'll give you that. Because I feel like this sort of information is 1483 02:13:08,667 --> 02:13:11,800 only spread when you're in your own echo chamber. When you're in your echo chamber 1484 02:13:12,700 --> 02:13:16,500 of thoughts and with social media, with all these things around us, we just get stuck 1485 02:13:17,700 --> 02:13:21,367 within our own thoughts and our own beliefs. And they become extreme. The only way we change that is through communication 1486 02:13:23,067 --> 02:13:24,567 and through coming together as a community. Thank you. Just let 1487 02:13:33,933 --> 02:13:35,200 me know when you start the time. I'll just start the time 1488 02:13:43,233 --> 02:13:46,100 like on my own side, so I can see how I'm doing time wise. You have it on there. Oh, oh my 1489 02:13:48,100 --> 02:13:51,733 god, it started. Okay. Hi, my name is neha surathran. I've lived in texas since 2016, and 1490 02:13:53,700 --> 02:13:57,400 I've significantly watched a demographic change. So today here, I'm here essentially 1491 02:13:59,133 --> 02:14:02,967 to address misinformation about the indian community that has been stated 1492 02:14:04,800 --> 02:14:07,267 at previous meetings, the blatant racism that was displayed quite literally 20 1493 02:14:09,000 --> 02:14:12,033 minutes ago, and all of this has spread to the news. Times of india is 1494 02:14:13,733 --> 02:14:16,767 writing about councilman tucker and how this, that so called activist paul 1495 02:14:19,133 --> 02:14:20,833 has blatantly made racist claims towards him. But many 1496 02:14:23,233 --> 02:14:26,267 of these people that have spoken at previous town halls, they've used the word alleged. 1497 02:14:27,333 --> 02:14:30,867 alleged fraud, alleged activity, alleged concerns. I will not be using that word 1498 02:14:32,500 --> 02:14:36,267 tonight. I'm not here to speculate. I'm here to present facts. I'm here to cite real data, 1499 02:14:37,767 --> 02:14:41,367 and I am here to address directly the misinformation surrounding h-1b visas and harmful stereotypes about the 1500 02:14:42,533 --> 02:14:45,533 indian community in frisco. Tonight, I'm here to talk about two things, the truth 1501 02:14:47,267 --> 02:14:50,900 about h-1b visas and the reality of the indian community in our city. I spoke directly 1502 02:14:52,333 --> 02:14:56,233 with the frisco chief of police, david shilson. Something that I want to make clear to everybody 1503 02:14:57,833 --> 02:14:59,767 here tonight. The frisco council is not responsible for h1b 1504 02:15:02,967 --> 02:15:05,867 visa fraud. That directly goes to a federal bureau. 1505 02:15:07,467 --> 02:15:10,600 complaining here, the only reason why people are 1506 02:15:13,767 --> 02:15:16,333 complaining to the council is to spread blatant hate towards 1507 02:15:21,067 --> 02:15:24,133 the indian community. Because they feel uncomfortable seeing people that do not look like them. What sahas had said 1508 02:15:25,333 --> 02:15:27,967 earlier, frisco is consistently ranked one of the safest cities in america. Not despite its 1509 02:15:29,433 --> 02:15:33,300 diversity, not despite its indian population, but alongside it. And as of today, there are no verified reports 1510 02:15:34,867 --> 02:15:36,600 of h-1b fraud in frisco. If the word alleged continues to be 1511 02:15:39,100 --> 02:15:42,100 used one more time, at this point, I would urge citizens to assume that it is false. 1512 02:15:43,567 --> 02:15:46,600 unless you do a quick research on google. Look at a, like, federal bureau website. The 1513 02:15:48,067 --> 02:15:49,700 statistics, the data, it's all there. Chief shilson 1514 02:15:52,500 --> 02:15:54,867 also said misinformation is one of the biggest threats. 1515 02:15:56,833 --> 02:15:59,833 to our country today. It creates divisiveness and hostility and does everything but promote unity. And that is 1516 02:16:01,100 --> 02:16:04,067 exactly what we are seeing. People are forming strong opinions based 1517 02:16:05,500 --> 02:16:09,467 on social media clips, group chats, and viral posts. Kelly, for example, today at this meeting made a claim that 1518 02:16:11,167 --> 02:16:14,300 hate crimes were happening in india against the christian community. She referenced the 1519 02:16:15,900 --> 02:16:19,367 cornell report. Upon looking at this report, you can see that there have been 200 cases 1520 02:16:21,533 --> 02:16:24,300 of hate crimes towards christians, but india is home to 1.2 billion people. 1521 02:16:26,067 --> 02:16:28,567 relative to the size of population, there has been 1522 02:16:30,167 --> 02:16:33,867 significantly more hate crimes towards muslims and jewish people within india. America. 1523 02:16:36,833 --> 02:16:39,800 so hate crimes happen everywhere, but are disproportionately happening 1524 02:16:40,933 --> 02:16:44,567 in the u.s. Due to uninformed rhetoric spread by people that do not educate themselves. So let's talk 1525 02:16:46,200 --> 02:16:49,767 facts. What about an h-1b visa? You need to have a specialized job offer, work in tech or 1526 02:16:51,733 --> 02:16:54,800 medicine, have at least a bachelor's degree or higher, be sponsored by a u.s. Employee, 1527 02:16:56,867 --> 02:16:58,633 and also, the company has to prove that you, that, 1528 02:17:01,000 --> 02:17:04,800 that that. They're paying the h-1b visa holder the same, if not higher amount as they would a u.s. Resident. They're not 1529 02:17:06,067 --> 02:17:09,900 outsourcing cheaper labor. And it's not an easy system to enter. It's selective, 1530 02:17:11,000 --> 02:17:13,533 competitive, and regulated. And there's a reason that this program exists. Around 70% of 1531 02:17:15,067 --> 02:17:18,267 ai and machine learning graduate students in the u.s. Are international students. In overall stem fields, over 1532 02:17:19,400 --> 02:17:22,967 50. That means that the very people being trained in our universities in the most 1533 02:17:24,100 --> 02:17:26,967 advanced fields are often not u.s. Citizens. Without programs like h-1b, 1534 02:17:28,733 --> 02:17:31,500 we are not protecting jobs, we are pushing away talent that our own system helped create. 1535 02:17:33,067 --> 02:17:36,767 for every one h-1b worker, approximately 1.8 additional 1536 02:17:38,733 --> 02:17:42,700 jobs are created for u.s. Workers. So the idea that these individuals are taking jobs is 1537 02:17:44,500 --> 02:17:48,367 just not supported by the data. Regions like frisco, with higher h-1b participation, have been shown to experience faster wage 1538 02:17:49,733 --> 02:17:52,700 growth for u.s.-born. Workers. Now, let's talk about the indian community. About 75% of americans hold a bachelor's 1539 02:17:53,833 --> 02:17:57,067 degree, compared to 38%. The medium. Income is 150k, double the u.s. Median. We are among the highest contributing 1540 02:17:58,167 --> 02:18:01,767 groups per capita towards taxes. And if you look towards the crime data, 1.2% of fraud arrests, despite being a larger share 1541 02:18:03,400 --> 02:18:06,500 of the population at 6%. So, statistically, the indian community is associated with higher education, higher 1542 02:18:11,000 --> 02:18:13,833 income, and lower crime rates. So if a group is associated 1543 02:18:17,300 --> 02:18:20,667 with safer communities, stronger schools, and higher economic contribution, why are we afraid? 1544 02:18:22,067 --> 02:18:25,767 if your goal is for your children to grow up in safe neighborhoods. High-performing schools, 1545 02:18:27,200 --> 02:18:29,933 stable communities, then this is not something to fear. This is something 1546 02:18:31,633 --> 02:18:34,833 to welcome. And let me be clear about cultural visibility. We also celebrate thanksgiving, 1547 02:18:36,367 --> 02:18:39,933 christmas. We are not forcing religion onto you. Hinduism does not convert. We believe 1548 02:18:41,800 --> 02:18:44,600 everybody goes to heaven, as long as you're a good person. Can I talk for a little more, 1549 02:18:45,933 --> 02:18:47,533 if possible? Sorry, ma'am. Thank you. Okay, 1550 02:18:56,467 --> 02:18:58,333 but thank you. We have harlan papert and then, finally, 1551 02:19:02,267 --> 02:19:04,233 we have donna schmittler. Well, hi, honestly, after all of this and what we talked 1552 02:19:06,367 --> 02:19:08,000 about, you know, having your time and what you want to talk 1553 02:19:10,900 --> 02:19:14,033 about. I don't even know what to say right now. I haven't been to the city council 1554 02:19:16,100 --> 02:19:19,533 meeting in some years. I think the last time I talked, it was like, about frisco arts, like, 1555 02:19:22,633 --> 02:19:22,633 whatever before covid. Just 1556 02:19:26,700 --> 02:19:30,700 having experienced this, I feel like I'm seeing democracy in action, but I do have 1557 02:19:33,800 --> 02:19:35,367 something to say. I'm looking at the makeup of this board 1558 02:19:38,000 --> 02:19:41,367 here, right, of this council. We have representation of 1559 02:19:43,500 --> 02:19:47,167 different cultures and different people from different places. So when I hear these outsiders 1560 02:19:50,933 --> 02:19:53,133 coming in and talking about frisco, I find that. Terribly 1561 02:19:55,967 --> 02:19:59,833 annoying and terribly frustrating, and I don't know how you all have to sit here and listen 1562 02:20:01,800 --> 02:20:05,133 to that. I didn't know. That's part of the process. That doesn't have anything to do with our city council, right? 1563 02:20:06,633 --> 02:20:10,533 there's nothing you can do about that. Whatever is going on, whatever that is, if it's a problem, it's not a 1564 02:20:12,233 --> 02:20:15,100 frisco problem, it's not a city council problem, you shouldn't have to deal with 1565 02:20:17,333 --> 02:20:19,567 that. I do have some questions though, because initially I 1566 02:20:22,067 --> 02:20:25,133 came here because I think I got a little bit blindsided, and I think some 1567 02:20:26,300 --> 02:20:29,033 of us were blindsided. About that industrial park, what used to be becky's horse 1568 02:20:31,833 --> 02:20:31,833 rescue. So I think a lot 1569 02:20:37,667 --> 02:20:40,600 of my neighbors are rather upset about the whole thing, 1570 02:20:44,867 --> 02:20:47,267 and I thank brian livingston and jeff cheney for speaking 1571 02:20:49,233 --> 02:20:52,567 to me about it when I first got here. I appreciate that because I really didn't know what was 1572 02:20:54,067 --> 02:20:55,667 going on, but I also feel uninformed. And I don't know 1573 02:20:59,033 --> 02:20:59,033 if there's a better way for 1574 02:21:03,833 --> 02:21:06,700 city to inform the residents who would be most impacted 1575 02:21:08,867 --> 02:21:10,667 about some type of construction that will impact their 1576 02:21:13,567 --> 02:21:13,567 backyards. So I think that that 1577 02:21:23,967 --> 02:21:26,433 measure was a little bit rushed. I know that was already something discussed. I heard 1578 02:21:28,700 --> 02:21:30,800 that 25 or 30 people came out. I've also found out just 1579 02:21:33,633 --> 02:21:35,433 yesterday that there was a petition that went around. I 1580 02:21:38,967 --> 02:21:41,000 don't know what impact that had, but I'm just wondering, 1581 02:21:44,067 --> 02:21:46,500 you know, about that and how myself and others could be more 1582 02:21:48,800 --> 02:21:52,400 informed, because I asked a few of my neighbors, and my neighbor showed up, 1583 02:21:54,467 --> 02:21:58,333 and I have another neighbor. They had no idea about this industrial park going on in our backyard, 1584 02:22:00,333 --> 02:22:04,333 and I know it's upset a lot of people. The other part to that is the impact 1585 02:22:07,100 --> 02:22:09,567 environmentally, public safety, and public health. I live in 1586 02:22:14,133 --> 02:22:17,000 prestmont, which was built in 95, 96. I moved there in 2012. 1587 02:22:19,133 --> 02:22:22,500 and when I moved to frisco in 2012, it was a very different 1588 02:22:23,767 --> 02:22:27,033 city, right? The exit from prestmont goes out to 1589 02:22:28,967 --> 02:22:32,500 prestmont and ohio. Where we have all that new, well, 1590 02:22:35,033 --> 02:22:38,167 it's not new anymore. There was nothing there many years ago. Now we have a lot of stores and 1591 02:22:39,333 --> 02:22:42,700 retail and apartments, and there's a lot of traffic. And years ago, we were told 1592 02:22:45,933 --> 02:22:48,867 that there would be traffic controls put in place. And one roundabout was built at warren 1593 02:22:51,300 --> 02:22:53,533 and ohio. But we also have, I think, and I'm sure the 1594 02:22:55,867 --> 02:22:57,767 police can look into, you know, the type of safety problems 1595 02:23:00,633 --> 02:23:02,200 we've had, but... At gaylord and ohio, we have this immense 1596 02:23:06,467 --> 02:23:10,100 intersection, and we were told there was going to be a roundabout put there 1597 02:23:12,167 --> 02:23:14,800 to control the traffic. It never happened. We were also told that potentially something 1598 02:23:16,500 --> 02:23:18,833 was going to be put at presmont, because I will tell 1599 02:23:21,000 --> 02:23:24,933 you, it's a dangerous intersection. Oftentimes, there's a police car posted there because of the 1600 02:23:26,767 --> 02:23:26,767 danger. Personally, I used 1601 02:23:31,633 --> 02:23:34,667 to walk my dog through there, and I can tell you a number 1602 02:23:36,567 --> 02:23:40,067 of times that I had to leap out of the way with my dog. Because I almost got hit 1603 02:23:42,533 --> 02:23:46,367 by a car. My neighbor got hit by a car there. He got t-boned right there. So I just want 1604 02:23:48,233 --> 02:23:51,467 to also ask that we can look into what happened to the traffic control there, because I think with that 1605 02:23:53,933 --> 02:23:55,467 industrial park also going in, we're going to see more traffic. 1606 02:23:59,167 --> 02:24:01,967 so that's what I have to say. Thank you all for your time, and I appreciate everything you all 1607 02:24:03,867 --> 02:24:03,867 are doing here. Thank you. 1608 02:24:08,233 --> 02:24:11,833 thank you. I will add really y quickly, the developer of that project is going to be 1609 02:24:13,233 --> 02:24:17,000 doing another neighborhood town hall. I know laura romel has been working with them 1610 02:24:18,067 --> 02:24:21,500 to coordinate that. I think it's after spring break for people to learn more about the projects, 1611 02:24:22,433 --> 02:24:25,567 and they're also offering to have residents come see another one of their projects 1612 02:24:28,267 --> 02:24:31,233 to understand it. So if you want to know more information about that, we can. We can get 1613 02:24:32,367 --> 02:24:35,500 that to you. Thank you. And jason, would you mind grabbing them afterwards, too, to give them a status 1614 02:24:37,267 --> 02:24:37,267 on the roundabout? Yeah, I 1615 02:24:41,967 --> 02:24:45,133 think it's in design. Donna. Good evening, mayor and council. Donna schmittler, 7037, white rock court, 1616 02:24:46,667 --> 02:24:48,667 frisco, texas. Just want to give you some information 1617 02:24:52,267 --> 02:24:55,267 about the heritage association of frisco. We are having, on march 31st, we are having a 1618 02:24:56,767 --> 02:24:58,033 lecture and a meeting at... At the heritage depot, and it 1619 02:25:02,700 --> 02:25:06,500 will feature the 1903 alan bickerstaff house. That the new 1620 02:25:08,033 --> 02:25:10,833 owners, the petruskas, have spent two years and much blood, sweat, and tears, and some 1621 02:25:12,900 --> 02:25:16,100 dollars restoring the house. So it's open to everybody. We'd love you 1622 02:25:18,533 --> 02:25:21,233 to come and see it. And she has written a book, which will be featured that night as well. 1623 02:25:24,067 --> 02:25:25,133 and we're still working on frisco 125. Which is coming up 1624 02:25:29,700 --> 02:25:32,833 in 2027, and some of you will be hearing from many people. We have hired 1625 02:25:34,400 --> 02:25:37,467 some writers and some authors to help with that. So if you get a call from us, 1626 02:25:40,033 --> 02:25:43,767 it's not a spam call. We really want your input. And thank you so much. I know it's difficult 1627 02:25:44,700 --> 02:25:48,033 what you do. I was on the school board once and it's not an easy thing. So it compels 1628 02:25:49,167 --> 02:25:52,467 in comparison to what you guys are up to. But I appreciate frisco and 1629 02:25:53,667 --> 02:25:56,733 like I said on more than one occasion. I came to frisco for a new life, and frisco has 1630 02:25:58,033 --> 02:25:59,567 given me a good one. Thank you. Thank you, donna. All right. 1631 02:26:07,100 --> 02:26:10,833 item 30 is city council discussion with city staff concerning any actions required by staff. We had the tabled 1632 02:26:12,233 --> 02:26:14,867 item that will come back. Item 31 is governance monitoring, which I had this evening. And 1633 02:26:18,367 --> 02:26:19,867 so council had good discussion on the one regular agenda item. Citizen input. So I gave us 1634 02:26:29,033 --> 02:26:30,800 tonight. With that, I will look for a motion to adjourn motion by burt, 1635 02:26:37,067 --> 02:26:40,467 second by and all in favor that passes 6-0. We are adjourned at 856. Thank you.