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This guy's always coming to these
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» He's like stalking us.
>> Now that you're Now that you're here, we

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can get started. [laughter]

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» Time is 5:30. This meeting of the city
of Frostber is called to order. Please

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stand for the pledge to the flag.
I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

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United States of America and to the
republic for which it stands, one nation

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under God, indivisible, with liberty and
justice for all.

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» We are thankful for the special
community, for the time we share

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together in the bounty of our nation.
We're thankful for the commitment of our

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people who volunteer their time and
talents to make our community a better

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place to live, work, and raise a family.
We know that we alone cannot meet the

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challenges or provide sufficient
inspiration without community

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involvement and the dedication of all
concerns to the greater good of the city

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and all who reside in it. We are
thankful for the beauty, the time and

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the place that is prosper. Amen.
>> You may be seated.

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» Mr. Brian, if you call the role, please.
>> Mayor Log,

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» present.
>> Commissioner Coburn

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» here.
>> Mr. Foresight

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» here.
>> Commissioner Grove

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» here.
>> Commissioner Stouse

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» here.
>> Okay.

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Next is the uh approval of the agenda
for tonight. Do I hear a motion to that

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effect?
>> I move we approve the agenda.

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» Second.
>> Duly moved and seconded to approve the

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agenda for tonight's meeting. As many as
in favor say I.

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» Oppos? No.
>> Agenda is approved. Next is the approval

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of the minutes from July 21st. Do I hear
a motion to that effect?

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» I make a motion to approve uh the
minutes of July council meeting.

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» I second.
>> Duly moved and seconded to approve the

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minutes of the council meeting of July
21st. Any discussion on that? Hearing

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none. As many in favor say I.
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» opposed. No. Uh minutes of July 21st are
approved.

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Uh we have nothing under uh special
presentations or requests for tonight.

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So we'll move right into reports of the
various city departments. Call first on

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community development. Mr. Miller was
not able to join us tonight. So Mr.

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So, um development uh permits there are
uh seven building permits, five use and

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occupancy permits, uh one dumpster
permit, one grading permit. Uh we have

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two solicitors doortodoor um permits,
one for subway, one for Edward Jones, uh

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two fence permits, and one um
certificate of appropriateness from the

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historical um commission. um uh rental
housing um uh had uh 70 res uh

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residential housing inspections um and
those are continuing to to uh move on

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and and notify the the next round of
individuals. Um as far as um other

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things with rental housing, um rental
housing giving out information to um uh

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new individuals in the rental program.
Um so information um for landlords as

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well as giving out information uh in the
list that we keep of all the landlords

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to individual looking for um somewhere
to live somewhere.

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» Are there any as far as we know
unregistered uh places I know June 30th

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is usually the deadline to register your
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» Um so all the registrations uh are
either in and uh I think all of them are

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in now and the ones that we cited for
being late or having a late fee are paid

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as well.
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still we're still waiting for payment
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Now, as far as unregistered goes, not
that we're aware of, but there's always

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a chance that somebody's running
something short. Um,

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uh, code enforcement. Um, we had 25 code
enforcement cases. Um, uh, and we Jay's

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been doing a really good job of keeping
on top of, um, some of the repeat

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offenders um, as well as going to court
when needed to. Um, uh, you know, our

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goal is never to find anybody. It's for
compliance. So the goal is if you get a

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a warning, whatever it is, it's taken
care of, we're just going to move on.

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The ideal situation, unfortunately,
that's not always the case.

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Um, and then as far as um uh boards, um
the planning commission did meet to go

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over um Pritchard Farms phase 1A. Um as
well as um talk about the accessory

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dwelling unit um uh law that was passed
by the state of Maryland that's going to

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have some effect on us and how we're
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compliance with that. Uh I don't think
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one before that they're also talking
about sheets is doing some renovations.

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Um and they have a temporary plan so far
like a draft plan, but the I think

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either the next planning commission
meeting or the one after they should

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have a finalizer.
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» in the most recent one.
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for a couple changes to present.
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appeals didn't need to meet and the
green team didn't meet um either. Um uh

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but they held a work uh work day at the
arburitum. Um and then more recently,

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not in July, but we met about a
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commission for
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the green team about it because uh we
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to Mike Cunning of Sustainable Maryland.
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green team members. So I think uh by the
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for the tour.
And the tour I just for yall the tour

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would be in October
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around the state. So
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projects um for development um the
comprehensive plan rewrite um has just

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about all the chapters redone. Eight or
finalized uh eight out of 10 or draft

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chapters are ready for review. Um once
that's done we'll do a final review of

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it before it's finalized. Um uh the
stabilization grant program is wrapping

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up. We did put in a grant for $250,000
with DHC um for uh renovation,

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stabilization, and safety upgrades for
um uh buildings in the what would be

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considered the downtown area. So, Main
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things like that. um uh that would allow
us uh if we give the grant, we'd have

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$250,000 to give out in um grants to
those uh uh businesses and property

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owners. Um there is a match to it. Um so
it's not just free money. Uh it's meant

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to kind of help encourage everybody to
reinvest in our property and improve

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some things. Um uh then we're also
working on the North Water Street

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project. Uh uh we're going to be putting
out an RFP uh to get someone to do the

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historical um documentation that's
needed done for that in order for us to

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move forward and RFP for demolition. Um,
and uh, we're looking at our abatement

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process. Um, we were originally going to
try and have something a little bit

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quicker, realized it was a bigger
conversation. So, still working on that

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as well.
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» Um, just so that's on the record, I know
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the grant this year, but if you talk a
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not to pursue, but maybe next year for
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» Grant Street area.
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was this grant just we didn't go after
everything we wanted to do. Um, for the

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Grant Street area
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» Oh yeah. So
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» DHCD. One of the things that you can uh
write funding for um uh is uh money for

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uh acquisition and if need be demolition
of properties. Um so we were looking at

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that and starting to look at a couple of
different properties in town that may

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need that kind of support. Um uh
buildings that are getting to a point

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where they're dilapidated um and people
that own them in a weird position of

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wanting to get rid of them but they're
not being the right kind of money for it

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and things like that or things that have
been abandoned completely and that kind

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of thing. So we were looking at
potentially um applying for the

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demolition one for upwards of 600 or
$700,000 to do some of that work. Um uh

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we weren't ready to dive into it that
quick this year. So it's something we're

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going to continue to work on in the
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» for that particular property.
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at Are we ready for that? Because I mean
the current owners were they were

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arguing amongst themselves
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correct me if I'm wrong, John found this
grant as a potential solution for that

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» so that they might come to an agreement.
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but it was a very short time period from
the time he found it till it was due was

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only like three weeks.
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than we were in the past. It sounds like
we just it was too quick.

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» So it's something we could probably look
at for next year. We just didn't have

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time together. I would be great to get
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» Yeah.
>> Okay. Anything else under uh or for

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community development?
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Phillips.

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» Um good evening. Finance doesn't have a
whole lot to report. Uh

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as I mentioned last time, uh June 30th
was our fiscal year end. And uh you will

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note that our reports have our lovely
little note on them again that the audit

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adjustments and year end acroals aren't
complete yet. Um and that'll stay with

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us till we get done the audit which
should be in October this year. That's

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what we're shooting for. Um as I also
mentioned last time, July tax bills went

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out well the 2627 tax bills went out in
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3.3 million compared to 3.1 million last
year and that was due to a nearly 29

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million increase in assessment values.
Um of that 3.3 million by the end of

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July we collected 428,000 or 13% which
is pretty good since bills went out I

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think the 12th. So in in about two weeks
we collected quite a bit. Um, just a

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reminder that for non-owner occupied
properties, taxes are due in full by

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September 30th. Um, and for owner
occupied properties, there are two

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installments due September 30th and
December 31st.

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Um, and I think that's pretty much all I
have other than the uh usual please sign

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up for e billilling and pay your bill
online.

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» All right,
>> any questions?

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» One question which I already told you
about before. So, what was the projected

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use of fund balance for the last fiscal
year? I know we didn't use it, but

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» we did not use it. Let me get to the
right page here.

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[snorts]
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we had projected to use in the general
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268,000. With the January amendments, we
knocked that down to 239 and then we

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ended up not using any of it. Okay. But
there was also um we'd estimated 180,000

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to use for the water fund
and 120,000 for the water searchcharge

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fund and none of that got used.
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the back. Yep. Great.
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» Anything else under finance? Anything
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» Sounds good.
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» All right. Thank you.
>> Public works. Mr. Lindsay, are you okay?

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» Yeah. [laughter]
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myself on my punctuality. You got here
just in time.

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» Yeah,
>> I uh got some chemical degreaser in my

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eye earlier today and I ran I was going
to run to urgent care, but I got it

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washed out. So, now we're here. [snorts]
Um public works overview for the past

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month. Uh in parks and recreation, of
course, this time of year is all in

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outdoor facilities, maintenance, grass
cutting, um keeping up with those

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facilities. Uh, of course the upcoming
things for us, we do have the block

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party as FSU comes back into town, uh,
and getting ready for the cruise and

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main street. Actually, not necessarily
parks and wreck item, but more of a

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citywide item that we help with. Uh, in
the street department land, most of what

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we're doing this time of year is uh,
summer construction projects like catch

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basins and then of course pothole
patching and then helping with the

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paving project for the year, which Lil
Brothers Asphalt is doing. Uh they are

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about 75% of the way done. Uh they will
finish with the food pantry and water

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street around the armory building
probably later this week and then do

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some final touch-ups early next week and
then be back out of town. Uh in the

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water department, we did just extend an
offer to uh our fifth position, so our

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newest hire. Um he accepted the position
today and he should start in about three

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weeks. That was what texted you about
today. Yep. Excited to get him in and be

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back at full staff. He'll be a very
[clears throat] entry- level position,

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of course, to train him up and make him
one of our own. Uh within the water

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department, actually has been a fairly
tame uh month leakwise. Uh

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unfortunately, it seems like those
things always get offset with other

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items. Of course, the big issue uh in
the water realm for Frostber this past

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month has been the elevated levels of
iron and magnes in Pine Mountain

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Reservoir. As some of you might have
seen, we did make a Facebook post about

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it as well that with the elevated levels
of iron and maganesees at Piney

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Reservoir, uh it did affect the
aesthetic value of the water. Um the

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criterion for the water that we were
putting out, the quality of the water

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that we were putting out um was
absolutely the same as it's always been.

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Safe to drink, safe to use. I just would
not recommend you use it do a load of

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white laundry at the time um as the
water had been stained um due to the

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higher levels of iron. Um
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» Correct. We spent a good bit of time
retrofitting our intake structure um in

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order to pull water from a different
level in the reservoir and that seems to

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have done the trick. So we think we're
on the downhill slope for that. uh

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within public works itself of course our
CSO jobs are underway which we'll touch

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base on and then we are prepping for the
roundabout project um and of course our

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water resiliency projects that we have
the governor Moore funding for uh which

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we will talk about with some items later
on that of which are the four BFD

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projects at Pine Reservoir the new
expansion well the redundancy well at

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Savage Springs to put that second well
pump back in and then of course the

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geodessic dome leak at the water
treatment plant. Um the water treatment

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plant leak we will start probably within
the next two weeks. Uh we want to get

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that one started right away now that we
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And then the VFD projects we will
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month and a half. Uh other than that, I
know there have been some questions

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about the marks on Main Street. That is
a state highway project. They are

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actually going to come through Monday
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week and mill and pave those areas of
Main Street. uh that are marked out.

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Those are some of the areas that have
gotten pretty rough. That is not their

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extensive uh main street upheaval and
paving program that they have talked

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about. That happens in 2028. This is
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everything smoothed back out.
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and correct.
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» Y that I think is everything. Uh if
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into it.
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So that I guess this would fall under
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Chief Costello about before. I wasn't
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street department issue at the uh
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Southwater Street and Maine.
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» we have a sign that says no parking from
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sign that says two-hour parking.
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» there's a car park there right now and
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it's extremely confusing for people. I
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for
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twohour thing just needs to come off
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corner because I think that's what it's
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» Got it.
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this and no parking before it but
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» Got it. We talked about the other day.
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department issue that they could get to
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related to signs, um, a week or so ago,
whenever it was, I, um, I had gotten

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with you about talking to the fire
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assistance from the street department to
mount a sign over there. Were we able to

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do that?
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up. Emily was tackling that one. That
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on. Yeah.
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to set
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» I'll double check.
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not, I'll get in touch with the chief
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» I have one question. Something that came
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regards to the new sidewalks that the
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there. Is that right?
>> Mid Oh, yes. Yes. Brad.

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» Yep. 7 Maryland 736 Bradock Road.
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» Yeah. Um there were some concerns about
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to interfere with the turning lanes
there. Wonder know if you had any

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information on that or
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» closer to the university they were
thinking it was going to remove those

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turning lanes.
>> The turning lanes will stay the parking

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lanes will go away. All that parking
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>> Um so where they don't have to pay that

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all goes away.
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» Yeah. They were concerned so they were
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more traffic and stuff.
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the parking on those sides will go away.
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» uh one thing just to add because this
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this point. Um these are the the July
reports. Um so I'd like to add uh for

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the 4th of July and Derby Day street
department did not say anything job with

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day all day long. Same thing parks and
rec crew was all around town.

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» That was a long day for those guys.
>> They did um uh there's an event that

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evening at Hoff Park and all that kind
of stuff. I'd like to thank the Boy

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Scouts as well, particularly uh Kevin
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maybe some of the rest of his troop I
guess it would be called. Uh they did it

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they were not asked to. They just did it
out of their own goodwill. They picked

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up they took bags out of the cans all
day, tied them up and sat them next to

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the the cans themselves. That way our
guys could just come and take the bags

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and throw them
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» So very much very much appreciated from
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» Okay.
>> Thank you.

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» Anything else? Thanks, sir. And uh
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» Good evening, mayor, commissioners. I
have the report for the police

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department for July 2026.
Uh, as you can see, we had 460, excuse

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me, 457 incidents, very similar to July
of 2025 where we logged 437 incidents.

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Uh, four arrests were made during the
month of July. two cases referred or

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handled by C3I, four documented
community policing events, 22 well-being

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checks, one emergency petition, 23
assist other agency incidents, 25

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requests for a police officer, two
follow-ups, 17 disturbances of various

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sorts, eight motor vehicle crashes, one
DWI arrest, and 87 traffic stops. Uh, as

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always, you know, I always try to talk
about some of the community events and

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positive things we've been doing in
addition to our daily duties. Um,

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we uh recently visited Kids Corner down
in Mountain Ridge, which is essentially

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the preschool at Mountain Ridge. They
invited us. Sergeant Beaman and I went

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down there. He actually led the
presentation. Did a fantastic job. We

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also had the Frostber summer day camp
come and do a tour of the police station

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and our vehicles. Uh, that was led by
uh, Corporal Fman and Corporal Delaney.

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Uh, I was there as well. They led the
program. They did a fantastic job with

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the tours and they gave us both entities
gave us some nice recognition on

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Facebook. So, it's not why we do it
obviously, but we appreciate seeing that

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and like being a part of those things.
Um, [clears throat]

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just the other night, uh, Sergeant Cook
represented our department in an escort,

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which many of you may have heard about
or seen on social media. A few of you

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told me about it in advance. That was
the, uh, remains of a World War II

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veteran uh, who was brought to his
hometown of Westernport. So, thanks to

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the mayor for, uh, authorizing us and
encouraging us to be a part of that, and

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we appreciate Sergeant Cook representing
us there that evening. Uh just some

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additional noteworthy uh police
activities. We've had uh specialized

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enforcement for DWI lately under the one
of the Maryland State Highway uh grants.

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And I'm sure you saw the media release.
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pedestrian uh down at the uh essentially
near Dollar General in Frostber um

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Village Shopping Center Plaza. So there
was a little elevated risk because the

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lady who was struck was 88 years old.
Initially, we weren't sure what her

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condition would be. We had the uh crash
reconstruction team from the sheriff's

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office come out. They did a fantastic
job. They brought up a large utility

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vehicle. They did they used the drones
to uh essentially analyze the area. They

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checked out the vehicle. They checked
out video surveillance footage. They did

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a very very nice job and we appreciated
the specialized work there. So that

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would conclude my report. Certainly glad
to elaborate further or answer any

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questions you may have.
>> Um given the schools are public schools

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are going back into session next week.
if there's anything maybe you want to

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mention about yes
>> pedestrian safety or kind of what how

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your department's involved with that.
>> Sure. Yes, absolutely. And things have

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changed a little bit over the last few
years, but uh for many years we did uh

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designated uh traffic control duties at
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at arrival and dismissal time and then
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changed their traffic pattern. They did
a really nice job so they don't need as

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much assistance from us. So often we'll
have an officer there anyway. Uh but

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typically at Mountain Ridge, we're there
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afternoon. Obviously, the schools also
have their own uh school police officer

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through the Alageney County Public
School System. Uh we do tend to see an

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increase in speeding complaints through
our neighborhoods every every uh time

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school the school year comes around
early in the season. It's an influx of

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traffic, but there really is some
speeding issues. So, we encourage

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everybody to slow down, leave leave home
a little bit early so you don't have to

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speed down the road to get to school on
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work. So, we will have officers out on
patrol to uh deter and enforce traffic

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issues as well, especially uh when we
see that influx of traffic here over the

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next few weeks. I should also mention
that we'll uh we anticipate approval for

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the uh school resource officer grant
again which essentially allows one or

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more of our officers on their offduty
time to work overtime to do specifically

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uh walkthroughs of the schools to
investigate activities of the schools

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essentially to supplement the school
resource officer program. So that's been

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a great program that we've had for maybe
seven or so years now if not longer all

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paid for
almost almost entirely paid for by the

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state. There may be some nominal cost to
the city, but it's it's a great program

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funded by the state.
>> Sure.

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» One more thing, and we talked about this
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we're not ready to take action on it
yet, but if you could just for the

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record so that the public's aware, talk
about what laws or ordinances are

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currently in effect as relate to ebikes
and if a citizen has an issue or

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complaint or something, what steps they
need to take.

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» Yes, absolutely. Yep. Uh very generally
speaking, uh the default state statute

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changed only within the last two years
or so by by laws passed by the Maryland

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General Assembly. The default is that
bicycles are allowed to ride on a public

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sidewalk unless a local municipality
passes their own law saying that it's

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illegal. U aside from that, there are
general laws that would apply uh

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independent of those regulatory things.
So, for example, if somebody's driving

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recklessly down the sidewalk on an ebike
or some kind of dirt bike and they're

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almost hitting people, that would
probably constitute the crime of

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reckless endangerment, if not something
more. There would certainly be grounds

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for the police to stop those people and
investigate further at the scene. And uh

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I mentioned last time, we always
appreciate when people call us with

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concerns, especially uh immediately
because, you know, it's a relatively

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small community. There are not that many
places to go. So if somebody calls us

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quickly and says, "Look, I was just
almost knocked down by these people,

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flying down the sidewalk, we can
probably get there, find the find the

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people on the bikes, and at least talk
to everybody, investigate at the scene,

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and go from there." So there is
definitely a factual component that is

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instrumental in being able to enforce
existing laws. And as with any crime,

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you know, uh policing is really uh um a
shared responsibility kind of in

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policing theory. You know, sometimes I
nerd out from studying policing and

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going to school to study policing
academically. I mean, theoretically, the

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police are paid uh full-time to enforce
the laws and patrol, but they can't be

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fully effective without information from
the community. It's a shared

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responsibility. If people have concerns,
call us. We appreciate it. We'll be

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right there and we can take action. So,
encourage that sharing and we'll

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certainly be proactive on our part and
observe for those things and initiate

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anything that we can do to help.
>> Anything else for Chief? I have one more

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sort of related to the the bike policy.
Absolutely. Um and your resource

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officers. Um has it been thought of to,
you know, we already have these officers

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in the building,
>> maybe do a little bit of outreach in

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regard to, you know, the students on
ebikes because there's a lot of kids

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that ride them and they recklessly, you
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» I think that's a great idea. Yeah,
definitely. I love the educational

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component. Um yeah, I'm going to talk to
our school resource officer. Maybe we

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can do maybe when he talks with classes.
so much is focused on like delinquency

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and drug and alcohol and tobacco usage.
I think that would be a good topic to

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incorporate in there.
>> Yeah, it might be good just to let them

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know.
>> Yeah. You know,

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» yeah,
>> to abide by these rules, you know, what

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whatever gets sent.
>> Absolutely. That's a great idea.

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» Okay.
>> And the uh the chief and I had discussed

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uh once we get all this through,
especially for the regular bicycles, to

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have a bicycle safety course put on by
our officers. We did this for several

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years and we gave out free helmets
>> to the kids that that participated in it

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so that that the younger children will
know where to ride their bikes and where

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not to ride the bikes and we could
actually include an ebike session in

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that. I know, correct me if I'm wrong,
years ago, I mean many years ago, it

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used to be a requirement that you had to
come and get your bike registered with,

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and I'm not saying that we do that or
that we go back to that, but that

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» well, and that was that was an
educational component

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» that was done particularly if if we
found a bike on the road, which we still

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do this, and they end up back in the
back of the police station and set for

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two years and then we give them away.
That that that was done so that we knew

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who owned the bike, we could get it back
to them, [snorts]

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» sir. Anything else for Chief Costello?
>> Thank you, sir. Thank you, mayor. Thank

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you, commissioners.
That concludes the city departments.

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Before we entertain a motion, um Mr.
Lindsay, I have one more question. Sure.

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» Um is the the paving parking situation
at Coug at Cougarfield. Is that done?

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» Yes, we have we've actually been
dropping off a few piles of millings

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from this current paving program there
just in case we need more throughout the

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process. get sloppy during the season,
>> but it's open and they can use it now.

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» Great.
>> Okay. Thank you.

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» One last uh also on Derby Day, uh police
officers did a great job. I chief there

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all day. Um uh but they also responded
to our banner um coming down and taking

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care of that. So yeah, they were they
were on the ball that

408
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:25,039
» All right, that is all the reports of
the city departments. Do I hear a motion

409
00:27:23,279 --> 00:27:27,120
to accept?
>> I accept.

410
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,559
» You what?
>> I accept.

411
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:32,000
» You move to
>> I move to accept.

412
00:27:31,520 --> 00:27:35,520
Second.
>> There's a motion and a second to uh

413
00:27:34,159 --> 00:27:38,960
approve the reports of the various city
departments. Any further discussion on

414
00:27:36,799 --> 00:27:40,720
that? Hearing? None. All in favor say I.
>> I.

415
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:44,159
» Post. No.
>> Reports of the city departments are

416
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:48,679
approved. Moving on to item nine. This
is the required monthly hearing for Cso.

417
00:27:51,360 --> 00:27:58,960
So again, this is the monthly public
hearing for the city of Frostber consent

418
00:27:56,159 --> 00:28:03,039
decree um combined sewer overflow
projects that are going on within the

419
00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:09,279
city of Frostber. Um at the moment we
are underway with phase 10B and phase 10

420
00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:15,520
C. Uh we are approximately
I would say 18 to 20% of the way through

421
00:28:12,399 --> 00:28:21,520
those projects um on both of them. Uh
curbing went in on 10C for McCulla

422
00:28:19,279 --> 00:28:27,200
Street last week and then sidewalks
actually began to go down today uh for

423
00:28:23,919 --> 00:28:33,840
McCulla Street on 10C. So the portion
from Cemetery towards Mountain Ridge.

424
00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:39,919
And then for 10B uh if anybody was in
the area last week, I believe it would

425
00:28:36,399 --> 00:28:44,000
have been Wednesday, uh we did set our
our really big structure. We have an

426
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:47,279
84inch manhole on that job. Um, we
actually used a couple large pieces of

427
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:52,960
equipment to set it. Um, so that was
kind of a a small town spectacle, so to

428
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:58,480
speak. It went really well. Um, then
they they've been blowing through ever

429
00:28:54,880 --> 00:29:01,279
since then. Um, again, with these
projects, you guys are going to think

430
00:28:59,679 --> 00:29:05,679
I'm a broken record, but I'd just like
to stress the fact that uh sidewalks are

431
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:10,480
a part of these projects. If anyone has
any questions, I'm happy to talk about

432
00:29:07,679 --> 00:29:13,440
them.
If not,

433
00:29:11,279 --> 00:29:17,200
» and I would have to say where some
people complain about the work that's

434
00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:22,159
being done on Mclla Street since I live
there, my wife has come to appreciate

435
00:29:19,679 --> 00:29:26,480
the fact, especially the days that that
she babysits, that it keeps the two

436
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:28,575
children very busy watching all the
time. [laughter]

437
00:29:28,799 --> 00:29:36,640
Especially, you know, uh EA, right close
to where you're at, they have some brand

438
00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:40,799
new, uh nice looking equipment, so it's
fun for fun to watch. Wow.

439
00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:44,799
» Entertainment value.
>> Yep.

440
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:46,399
» There. Any other questions?
>> Thank you.

441
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:50,399
» All right. This concludes the required
monthly hearing for the CSO project.

442
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:54,320
Moving on. Item 10. There's nothing
under old business. Moving into item 11.

443
00:29:52,559 --> 00:29:58,120
This will be the first reading of
proposed ordinance 2026-06.

444
00:29:58,799 --> 00:30:07,200
» Yes. So, I'm taking the position of John
this evening. Um, so ordinance 2026-06,

445
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:10,080
uh, an ordinance of the mayor city
council of the city of Frost, Maryland,

446
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:15,360
entitled an ordinance to repeal and
reenact sections 3.01 of appendix D of

447
00:30:13,279 --> 00:30:18,720
the city code, rental housing code
pertaining to the registration of

448
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:25,600
dwelling units as rental housing units
for the purpose of clarifying those

449
00:30:20,159 --> 00:30:31,279
terms. So in section one, um, uh, the
changes would include, uh, reg uh,

450
00:30:27,840 --> 00:30:35,440
section 501 registration occupancy would
now A no dwelling unit may be rented or

451
00:30:33,760 --> 00:30:39,279
otherwise occupied unless it is
registered and has passed inspection in

452
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:44,240
accordance with this ordinance subject
to following exceptions. Uh uh I a

453
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:47,840
dwelling unit occupied by the owners and
members of their immediate family who

454
00:30:45,679 --> 00:30:52,880
reside there rentree is not subject to
the registration and inspection

455
00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:57,360
requirements. Uh two, a dwelling unit uh
owned uh by a trust and occupied by the

456
00:30:55,279 --> 00:31:01,039
trust beneficiaries or members of their
immediate family all of whom reside

457
00:30:59,520 --> 00:31:04,960
there rent free is not subject to the
registration and inspection requirement.

458
00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:08,159
And then B occupancy limit shall be
determined by the zoning ordinance

459
00:31:06,559 --> 00:31:12,159
subject to reasonable accommodations
present to the fair housing amendments

460
00:31:09,919 --> 00:31:17,120
act of 1988.
Um and then be further that this

461
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:23,440
ordinance should become effective uh on
the 21st day after it passage. Um so if

462
00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:32,559
you are interested I did pull this up
the current um

463
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:38,000
section D uh 3 uh 01 languages there um
uh so one of uh one of the

464
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:41,440
clarifications this does is so uh it
says in this it says if the unit is

465
00:31:39,760 --> 00:31:45,679
owned by a trust the trust beneficiary
and that individual's immediate family

466
00:31:43,679 --> 00:31:50,159
unless it's owned by uh unless the
dwelling uh unit is occupied rentree and

467
00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:55,760
is registered. So, we have had some
people trying to skirt our rental

468
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:58,880
housing program by setting up uh things
as a trust

469
00:31:57,120 --> 00:32:02,799
» and having somebody that is a part of
the trust live there paying rent to

470
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:09,039
them, but they're not like a family
member. They tend to change over year to

471
00:32:05,039 --> 00:32:12,640
year. Um uh so to make sure that we're
making uh ensuring everybody's getting

472
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,200
the proper certifications and
inspections,

473
00:32:13,679 --> 00:32:21,440
» this will clarify that language.
>> Gotcha. Okay.

474
00:32:17,600 --> 00:32:24,399
So then just to clarify, so subb doesn't
change. It's just sub A. So we're

475
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:27,279
deleting the se deleting what's
currently in sub A, replacing with this

476
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:31,519
with the two subsections.
>> Yes. Replacing with this A and the two

477
00:32:30,559 --> 00:32:33,200
subsection
>> one point.

478
00:32:32,000 --> 00:32:38,559
» And it's mainly just for clarification
on the intent of what it was.

479
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:43,600
» Right. Got it.
So, if there's no questions, um, uh, I'd

480
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:48,399
ask for a motion second to approve
ordinance 2026-06

481
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:53,519
on first reading, uh, and set the, uh,
September 15th, 2026 council meeting,

482
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:57,279
uh, as the advertised public hearing,
um, and move forward from that,

483
00:32:56,320 --> 00:33:03,000
» right?
>> And we approve Go ahead. I have to

484
00:32:59,279 --> 00:33:03,000
approve ordinance 2026-06.

485
00:33:04,159 --> 00:33:11,679
» Duly moved and seconded to approve
resolution 2026-06 on the first reading

486
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:15,679
and we will set September 15th as the uh
advertised public hearing date and

487
00:33:13,519 --> 00:33:20,240
potential second reading. That is the
motion. Is there any further discussion

488
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:24,399
or comment among council on this?
>> Any discussion or comment among the

489
00:33:21,919 --> 00:33:26,399
public on this ordinance before we move
hearing? None. As many as in favor say

490
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:32,320
I.
>> I post. No. Ordinance 26-06 is approved

491
00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:36,320
on the first reading and the advertised
public hearing date will be September

492
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:39,960
15th. That concludes that. Moving to
resolution 26-31.

493
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:52,559
Excellent. So, uh, resolution 2026-31
um is to reappoint a member of the Frost

494
00:33:48,720 --> 00:33:57,440
Planning Commission. Um, Mr. Ray Race um
has um indicated his willingness to

495
00:33:54,880 --> 00:34:02,960
serve another [snorts] 5year term. um
and is being um suggested for such from

496
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:09,040
uh the community development office done
job. See no reason not to.

497
00:34:06,159 --> 00:34:12,079
» Okay. I move we approve resolution
2026-31.

498
00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,919
» Second.
>> Duly moved and seconded to approve

499
00:34:13,359 --> 00:34:18,720
resolution 26-31. Is there any comment
or discussion among members of council

500
00:34:17,359 --> 00:34:21,280
on this?
>> Were there any other applications

501
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,760
besides Mr. Rice?
>> I don't.

502
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:26,960
» Thank you. Any comment or discussion
among members of the public?

503
00:34:25,520 --> 00:34:32,560
» Hearing none. Not as many in favor say
I. I

504
00:34:27,839 --> 00:34:38,320
» post. No. Resolution 26-31 is approved.
>> Next is resolution 26-32.

505
00:34:35,919 --> 00:34:44,399
This is also community development.
>> Yes. Um so uh this resolution uh is to

506
00:34:41,679 --> 00:34:48,159
approve a contract with gov um for
community development software. So

507
00:34:45,839 --> 00:34:53,280
software that would cover um permitting,
rental housing, and code enforcement. Uh

508
00:34:50,720 --> 00:35:00,320
we've been working um with looked at a
handful of different um software uh for

509
00:34:56,320 --> 00:35:03,280
this uh process. Go well seems to be um
one of the best price and one of the

510
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:08,800
best uh kind of forward facing
interfaces for for our residents. Um so

511
00:35:07,119 --> 00:35:15,359
uh
it has a $16,000 annual cost and a

512
00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:21,599
onetime uh setup fee of $5,400 a
contract. Um we did work with them. Um

513
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:26,960
the goal is has implemented um after the
rental housing um kind of season in in

514
00:35:25,359 --> 00:35:32,160
the early bit of the year, but before
summer starts to make sure everything

515
00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:36,160
transfers over correctly. Um mainly
because the summer's a big time for uh

516
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:40,320
inspection and then code enforcement,
that type of thing. So there will be a

517
00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:44,960
little bit of overlap. Um but they also
uh did give us an extra 3 months free of

518
00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:48,480
charge so we can get that set up. So you
would enter into the contract pretty

519
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:52,079
much immediately. Um, but instead of 12
months for the first year, we have 15 to

520
00:35:50,560 --> 00:35:54,880
help out with that. So there we have
four.

521
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:58,240
» When does our contract expire with our
current vendor?

522
00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:01,920
» Believe it's either middle of July or
very beginning of August. So we would

523
00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:05,599
have the summer essentially we would
have both available to us with the goal

524
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:09,839
of using this, making sure everything's
working out. The biggest concern is we

525
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:13,200
have had software implementation issues
in the past with different companies. We

526
00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:16,720
want to make sure that this is up and
running because if it's not when we go

527
00:36:14,720 --> 00:36:20,800
to transfer we've caused a lot of
problems. We want to give ourselves more

528
00:36:18,320 --> 00:36:23,839
period and this was budgeted to have
that overlap this year if we needed to.

529
00:36:23,140 --> 00:36:30,800
[snorts]
>> My understanding is that this software

530
00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:34,800
is more user friendly. [laughter]
>> Yes. Uh they we've looked at a lot of

531
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:41,680
different things and and what this can
do compared to uh our current system. Um

532
00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:43,839
all developers are excited about And
it's compatible with other things we're

533
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,480
already doing.
>> Yeah.

534
00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:49,680
» Yeah. For for the most part. Like it's
not part of another software we have.

535
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:53,839
One of the ones we did actually look at
was one of the softwares that is the

536
00:36:51,839 --> 00:36:59,599
same software as our financial system.
>> Um but the cost of it for setup was much

537
00:36:57,839 --> 00:37:05,520
more expensive. It would take an entire
year to set up. So we

538
00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:09,760
» we pay almost 25 20 $25,000 to have that
system while we had the current system

539
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:14,280
and all that kind of stuff. And it was
um a bit Yeah, that's not a good

540
00:37:15,599 --> 00:37:20,880
» I move we approve resolution 2026-32.
>> Second.

541
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:24,960
» Duly moved and seconded to approve
resolution 26-32. Is there any further

542
00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:28,720
comment or discussion on council on
this? Is there any comment or discussion

543
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:32,480
among members of the public on this
resolution? Seeing none, as many as in

544
00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:38,000
favor say I. I.
>> Oppos? No. Resolution 26-32 is present.

545
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:42,280
Looks like there's one more for
community development resolution 33.

546
00:37:42,320 --> 00:37:52,000
» So, this is a small correction for our
um uh permitting uh fees uh that are in

547
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:56,560
the uh fee schedule. So, when we did the
budget ordinance um after it was passed,

548
00:37:54,079 --> 00:38:01,359
we realized there was one uh a couple of
small little errors. So, uh I'll bring

549
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:04,560
it up for you.
The uh and so everything's getting

550
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:10,079
cheaper, which is good. [laughter]
So, uh the when we transferred when John

551
00:38:07,520 --> 00:38:14,320
was transferring over some cost um the
the cost listed uh under residential

552
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:18,320
commercial accessory structures is
actually for inspections the cost of

553
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:24,079
inspections not the permits so we're
just reducing them down to what the

554
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:27,920
permit cost is so uh instead of 105 it's
those numbers there on the right uh and

555
00:38:26,160 --> 00:38:33,520
then while we were clarifying that we
did give one other small clarification

556
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:40,000
um this instead of being 5,000 kilowatt
um it should be 5 kVa

557
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:44,800
which is kiler I think. Um uh and then
this one should also be KBA. So

558
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:52,000
» um uh that's just a clarification. So
resolution 2026-33

559
00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:58,320
uh is to um uh correct uh those uh
numbers in the FY27 budget fee schedule.

560
00:38:55,280 --> 00:39:02,800
Uh and um
>> we'll change that in the system.

561
00:39:00,560 --> 00:39:06,000
Nobody's been charged $105 by the way.
>> Okay. this right away. Just to do a

562
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:11,920
resolution.
>> Got it.

563
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:14,160
» I move to approve resolution 2026-33.
>> Second.

564
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:17,680
» Moved and seconded to approve resolution
26-33.

565
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:21,440
Is there any comment or discussion among
council on this?

566
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:26,400
Is there any comment or discussion among
those present in the public on this

567
00:39:24,400 --> 00:39:30,160
hearing? None. All those in favor say I.
>> I.

568
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:37,520
» Oppose. No. Resolution 26-33 is
approved. Moving on to public works

569
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:44,000
resolutions. Next is resolution 34.
>> Okay. So resolution 2026-34

570
00:39:41,040 --> 00:39:49,920
is a change order to combine sewer
overflow cso project 10C. Uh we spoke

571
00:39:47,760 --> 00:39:55,359
about this in our work session. Um but
this was an error in the initial spec

572
00:39:52,640 --> 00:40:05,359
package put together by the engineer. Um
whereas in the initial spec pack package

573
00:39:59,359 --> 00:40:11,440
it called for 30 feet of 8 in uh HDP PVC
pipe uh and it should in fact have been

574
00:40:07,839 --> 00:40:16,720
300 ft of pipe. So the contractor bid on
30 ft of pipe um instead of it being 300

575
00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:20,560
ft of pipe. Of course that additional
pipe that we need for the project comes

576
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:25,839
with a cost associated with it uh to the
tune of $27,000.

577
00:40:22,720 --> 00:40:29,920
Uh this would come from the contingency
budget for the project which of course

578
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:35,440
is already budgeted.
Are there any questions?

579
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:41,119
» We need the pipe. We need the pipe.
>> And to clarify too, uh this would not

580
00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:46,000
have affected the bidding. Um, for
instance, if this contractor had bid it

581
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:49,680
for 30 and the next contractor had bid
it for 300 or vice versa, uh, that

582
00:40:48,320 --> 00:40:55,440
wouldn't have happened because each
contractor got the initial 30 ft spec

583
00:40:53,280 --> 00:40:59,040
pack package that they all bid on. So,
all contractors bid on 30 ft as opposed

584
00:40:57,119 --> 00:41:03,280
to 300.
>> Um, with that being said, I would ask

585
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:06,960
for a motion and a second for resolution
2026-34.

586
00:41:05,359 --> 00:41:10,400
» I'd like to make a motion to approve
resolution 2026-34.

587
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:14,400
Second.
>> Do the move and second to approve

588
00:41:11,680 --> 00:41:19,760
resolution 26-34. Is there any further
discussion or comment among members of

589
00:41:16,319 --> 00:41:25,599
council? Okay. Uh comment or discussion
among those present on resolution 26-34.

590
00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:29,760
» Hearing none. All those in favor say I.
I.

591
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:35,920
» Post. No. Resolution 26-34 is approved.
>> Next is resolution 26-35.

592
00:41:32,880 --> 00:41:41,520
» Yes. So resolution 226-35.
Again, this applies to the um

593
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:46,319
The fiscal budget money that we received
from the governor's office um and again

594
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:51,680
it is for the water treatment plant. One
of the four phases of our water

595
00:41:48,319 --> 00:41:55,599
resiliency project is the um
troubleshooting and repair of the geopic

596
00:41:53,760 --> 00:42:00,640
dome leak at the water treatment plant.
Uh this is basically greenlighting us to

597
00:41:58,319 --> 00:42:04,480
start spending a little bit of money um
to start repairing that issue. I want to

598
00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:08,800
be clear that we don't know the exact
value um of what the repairs will cost

599
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:12,720
because we don't know the extent of the
leak under the tank. It's not one that

600
00:42:10,800 --> 00:42:18,000
we can just inspect. Um but we
anticipate it being approximately 20 to

601
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:23,440
$25,000 with the worst case being around
65,000. We asked the governor for 65,000

602
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:27,359
for that project. Um we are hoping we
can come in significantly under that.

603
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:31,119
And of course it will be a a competitive
bid and quoting process to find a

604
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:35,280
contractor. So the mayor and council
will get to approve the amount before we

605
00:42:33,839 --> 00:42:38,960
actually move forward because it will be
a bid process.

606
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:43,839
» The amount for the
initial investigation as to how the

607
00:42:41,280 --> 00:42:48,079
extent of the leak or
>> the this here was to cut us loose to

608
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:54,000
start the investigation process. We
anticipate that being 5 to$10,000 um so

609
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:56,480
we can just go with the contractor get a
couple quotes off of our trusted

610
00:42:55,200 --> 00:43:00,240
contractors and then get going
>> just to start the process rolling.

611
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,800
» Correct. because we can't with the water
leaking out of the tank. We don't want

612
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,280
to keep letting it leak out.
>> Can you remind us how many gallons

613
00:43:04,079 --> 00:43:10,960
again?
>> We think about 75,000

614
00:43:07,839 --> 00:43:16,720
» of finished water.
>> Um this this money would also then be

615
00:43:13,440 --> 00:43:20,400
utilized for um paying the contract if
we don't have the governor's money yet,

616
00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:24,720
but we could approve to spend money
before um all the paperwork's done.

617
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:27,119
That's been allocated to us as of July
one. It's just a process to get

618
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:30,480
everything together
>> and you get re reimbured afterwards.

619
00:43:29,200 --> 00:43:35,040
» Yes. And we don't want to wait until
winter comes around and not be able to

620
00:43:31,680 --> 00:43:37,760
do this project as
>> So if there are no other questions, I

621
00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:43,680
would ask for a motion and second on
resolution 26-35.

622
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:45,440
» I move we approve resolution 2026-35.
>> Second.

623
00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:49,280
» Duly moved and seconded to approve
resolution 26-35.

624
00:43:48,079 --> 00:43:51,920
Is there any further comment or
discussion among members of council on

625
00:43:50,880 --> 00:43:55,200
this?
>> I know we've been talking about this for

626
00:43:53,119 --> 00:43:58,560
a while. That can get started. who are
wasting a lot of money but also a lot of

627
00:43:57,520 --> 00:44:03,520
water.
>> All right. Uh any comment or discussion

628
00:44:00,400 --> 00:44:06,960
among those present on resolution 26-35?
Seeing none as many as in favor say I.

629
00:44:05,359 --> 00:44:11,119
» I post. No.
>> Resolution 26-35 is approved. That

630
00:44:09,280 --> 00:44:16,200
concludes public works and the water
department. Next one under finance

631
00:44:12,720 --> 00:44:16,200
resolution 26-36.

632
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:26,720
» Um
resolution 26-36

633
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:34,319
is for the final fiscal 2526 budget
amendment that we discussed at work

634
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:38,319
session. Um major changes are um moving
several capital projects from the 2026

635
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:44,800
budget. They've been picked up in the
2027 budget. Uh both the funding for

636
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:49,760
them as well as the actual expenditures.
Um, we also incorporated

637
00:44:47,040 --> 00:44:54,800
uh some repairs and other items that
were not budgeted, specifically the HBAC

638
00:44:52,560 --> 00:45:00,160
repairs for this building. Um, couple
other minor things. Um,

639
00:44:57,680 --> 00:45:03,680
the last major item that we've changed,
as we discussed a little bit earlier,

640
00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:07,200
was removing the proceeds from fund
balance that were not needed, which is a

641
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:12,000
good thing.
Um, so unless there's any questions, I

642
00:45:10,319 --> 00:45:15,960
would ask for a motion and a second to
approve resolution 2026-36.

643
00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:22,400
» I move to approve resolution 2026-36.
>> Second.

644
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:26,319
» Duly moved and seconded to approve
resolution 26-36.

645
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:31,200
Is there any further discussion or
comment among members of council on this

646
00:45:29,760 --> 00:45:35,280
» comment or discussion among those
present on this resolution?

647
00:45:33,839 --> 00:45:39,280
» Seeing none, as many users are in favor
say I.

648
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:45,599
» I. I oppose. No. Resolution 26-36 is
approved. Thank you, ma'am. Next is

649
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:52,560
resolution 26-37,
Mr. O'Brien.

650
00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:58,000
» Uh, so resolution uh 2036-37
um uh is to uh essentially appoint the

651
00:45:55,599 --> 00:46:03,040
ex official member of the Frostber Plan
Commission. So, according to their

652
00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:08,319
bylaws, Mayor Logston um is the ex
official uh member unless appoint

653
00:46:05,920 --> 00:46:13,440
someone else. We had discussion and uh
Commissioner Coburn um uh showed

654
00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:18,720
interest in doing that and Mayor Lawson
agreed. So, this is just a resolution um

655
00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:23,520
stating that we will be appointing uh
Commissioner Coburn uh to that position

656
00:46:21,359 --> 00:46:29,480
um for the length of his service or
until another individual is identified

657
00:46:26,079 --> 00:46:29,480
as the exit.

658
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:38,079
» I move to approve resolution 2026-37.
>> Second. Duly moved and seconded to

659
00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:42,079
approve resolution 26-37. Is there any
further comment or discussion among

660
00:46:39,359 --> 00:46:44,640
council on this?
>> You're sure you want to do this?

661
00:46:43,200 --> 00:46:48,240
» I'm positive.
>> I made it after MMO the other night.

662
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:50,640
» Oh, so very dedicated.
>> Yeah.

663
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:54,319
» All right. Is there any comment or
discussion among those present on

664
00:46:51,839 --> 00:46:56,720
resolution 26-37?
>> Seeing none, as many as in favor say I.

665
00:46:56,240 --> 00:47:02,680
» I.
>> Oppos? No.

666
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:02,680
» Resolution 26-37 is approved.

667
00:47:02,720 --> 00:47:08,560
believe there's one more
>> under new business. This is resolution

668
00:47:06,240 --> 00:47:13,440
26-38.
>> Um so as we discussed we are doing some

669
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:20,079
uh renovations at the damkeeper house uh
up by piny. Um uh our most recent keeper

670
00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:21,440
has moved out after being there 20 plus
years.

671
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:25,440
» 22
>> 22 years. Um so it's time to do some uh

672
00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:28,880
upgrades and and some work in there. Uh
one of the big things we noticed was uh

673
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:32,079
the electrical system needing some
upgrades. So, um,

674
00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:37,680
» some upgrades, [snorts]
>> some major. [laughter] Um, uh, so, uh,

675
00:47:35,359 --> 00:47:41,280
Hayden, uh, was nice enough to to put,
um, three quotes together, uh, for me.

676
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:45,760
Um, since Hayden is going to eventually
be living there, I'm taking care of this

677
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:51,440
aspect of it. Um, so, uh, after looking
at the quotes, um, uh, that came in,

678
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:55,920
Stevens Electrical, um, is expected to
be the lowest cost. Um, uh, we did have,

679
00:47:54,319 --> 00:48:01,200
if you look at the quotes, there's one
that averages out a little bit lower,

680
00:47:58,319 --> 00:48:06,480
but includes an apprentice quote or or
apprentice cost which is significantly

681
00:48:03,599 --> 00:48:09,119
lower um and that individual would be
there to assist probably the actual

682
00:48:07,920 --> 00:48:13,839
electrician. So we didn't include that
in the average because we were worried

683
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:18,960
it kind of brought it down. So uh this
um

684
00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:25,839
um PA power solutions uh their average
uh was uh 8550 uh Stevens electrical was

685
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:30,480
85 and then the other one was 90
something. So, um, one of the other

686
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:33,119
things is Stevens Electrical, um, is
going to be using Turnin for this

687
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:37,760
project. So, we know exactly what it's
going to cost people. We know that,

688
00:48:35,200 --> 00:48:42,480
right? So, um, [snorts] so we're, uh,
suggesting Stevens Electric for that

689
00:48:39,359 --> 00:48:45,520
work. Um, uh, not to exceed $20,000 is
what we talked about. We're hoping it'll

690
00:48:44,079 --> 00:48:48,640
come in under that, but there is a lot
of work to be done there. Uh, they're

691
00:48:47,200 --> 00:48:52,559
going to be completely changing out a
couple of panels, um, rerunning a lot of

692
00:48:51,040 --> 00:48:57,680
wires because some of the wiring in that
building is pretty old. And we've had

693
00:48:55,119 --> 00:49:00,800
Steven's Electric work with us before,
so

694
00:48:59,359 --> 00:49:02,079
» Isn't it like the whole house that needs
redone?

695
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:06,160
» Just about.
>> Yeah. Yeah.

696
00:49:03,599 --> 00:49:09,359
» Um uh and they can start pretty much as
soon as we're done signing uh this

697
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,200
resolution. So
>> yeah, we need to cut them loose as soon

698
00:49:10,640 --> 00:49:12,960
as possible.
>> Yeah, I think they're going to be able

699
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:18,079
to start [snorts]
Monday. They can start last week. Well,

700
00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:21,839
council hasn't even approved you yet, so
you might want to wait. But yes, they

701
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:25,920
can start. [laughter]
I move we approve resolution 2026-38.

702
00:49:25,359 --> 00:49:29,599
» Second.
>> Duly moved and seconded to approve

703
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:31,440
resolution 26-38. Is there any further
comment or discussion among council on

704
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:35,754
this?
>> See how eager I was to get that.

705
00:49:33,734 --> 00:49:35,754
[laughter]

706
00:49:35,839 --> 00:49:40,400
» Uh do they do they have an estimate on
how long it's going to take?

707
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:42,960
» They thought about a week.
>> Okay.

708
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:47,040
» Yeah.
>> Fortunately with the basement being open

709
00:49:45,040 --> 00:49:50,559
and the ad being pretty easy access all
their runs pretty quick.

710
00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:54,400
» Okay. Very good. Anything further among
council on this comment or discussion

711
00:49:52,319 --> 00:49:56,720
among those present on this resolution?
>> Seeing none, as managers are in favor

712
00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:02,240
say I. I
>> oppose. No. Resolution 26-38 is

713
00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:05,599
approved. That concludes new business.
Moving on to item 12 on the agenda,

714
00:50:04,000 --> 00:50:09,359
which is open public comment. This is a
chance for anyone who has something to

715
00:50:07,520 --> 00:50:13,040
bring to Mayor Council to please uh feel
free to do so. If you would like uh come

716
00:50:11,599 --> 00:50:15,920
up to the podium, just please state your
name and address for the record and

717
00:50:14,640 --> 00:50:20,559
we'll be happy to talk about anything
you like. Ma'am, please do.

718
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:37,520
Well, I apologize. I'm a little bit
nervous.

719
00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:42,960
» Oh, please don't be. And um um my name
is Becky Dwit and I've lived in Frostber

720
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:49,280
for 20 years and we've had problems with
our water and our trash. And um I came

721
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:54,240
tonight um to ask you that um if you
could um let us know ahead of time

722
00:50:51,920 --> 00:50:58,319
before you shut our water off. We we
needed uh more time, but

723
00:50:56,559 --> 00:51:01,119
» as the situation turned out, our
landlord did pay the water bill.

724
00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:05,760
» Okay.
>> So we're okay on that. But what happened

725
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:09,599
was we just had this big green sticker
on our back door and all of a sudden I

726
00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:14,400
was like what? And I'd been working with
Jay Hovatter to try and rectify our

727
00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:18,640
trash situation
>> in the absence of our landlord.

728
00:51:16,640 --> 00:51:22,720
» And um all of a sudden we got a big
green sticker that we're going to shut

729
00:51:19,839 --> 00:51:28,400
the water off in two weeks. So um
Patrick I talked to Patrick and we get

730
00:51:24,559 --> 00:51:32,079
we got 30 extra days but still 46 days
we had nowhere to go. We could not find

731
00:51:30,319 --> 00:51:38,559
anywhere to go and we could not come up
with enough money to pay the bill

732
00:51:34,000 --> 00:51:43,520
ourselves. So, I am very scared and I'm
still scared because we're not we're not

733
00:51:41,359 --> 00:51:48,640
it's not completely over yet because the
trash has to be rectified

734
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:54,480
» and I I'm was told that by the landlord
that the water bill was paid in full.

735
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:57,680
So, I'm hoping that is true and um I
just we don't want to be in this

736
00:51:55,680 --> 00:52:01,200
situation again. Is there any way you
can let us know at day one that the

737
00:51:59,760 --> 00:52:07,040
water is not paid?
>> So, sort of. Um, so my my understanding

738
00:52:04,319 --> 00:52:09,680
is that you, the tenants of the
building, were having a lot of trouble

739
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:12,000
getting a hold of your landlord for a
long time.

740
00:52:10,160 --> 00:52:14,640
» Yeah, we actually called the police
department and did a wellness

741
00:52:12,901 --> 00:52:19,839
[clears throat] check on him
>> and they called us back and said he was

742
00:52:17,119 --> 00:52:25,280
okay. And then that that very day, that
evening, we called him again and he he

743
00:52:21,839 --> 00:52:29,359
did answer us. So, but still after that
we [clears throat] had no contact with

744
00:52:26,559 --> 00:52:35,119
him. But, but I just talked to him on
texting yesterday. So, he is around and

745
00:52:33,119 --> 00:52:41,200
he has apologized very much for
everything and I accepted his apology

746
00:52:37,839 --> 00:52:45,200
and he wants to rectify everything. You
know, he wants to pay the bills and get

747
00:52:43,119 --> 00:52:49,920
the a place back going again.
>> So, I can tell you that I know for a

748
00:52:48,559 --> 00:52:52,079
fact that he was here and did pay his
bill. I don't know if it's paid all the

749
00:52:50,960 --> 00:52:54,559
way to current, but he was here and made
a significant payment because I just

750
00:52:53,359 --> 00:52:57,599
happened to be in the building whenever
he showed up that day. So,

751
00:52:56,400 --> 00:53:00,319
» I'm very thankful of that, too.
>> Yes. So, that's been taken care of. As

752
00:52:59,040 --> 00:53:01,680
far as the trash, I don't know if
there's been an arrangement made with

753
00:53:01,520 --> 00:53:06,079
that.
>> Uh he he's been working with uh Jay

754
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:10,079
Hovet on that, our our code enforcement
officer. Um uh they have an agreement

755
00:53:08,720 --> 00:53:13,280
that he's going to work on some things
and we're going to hold off on any sort

756
00:53:11,920 --> 00:53:17,520
of additional fines and stuff like that
worked out so that things can get worked

757
00:53:15,119 --> 00:53:21,119
out. Um but we'll follow up about that.
>> Okay. So tech being a commercial

758
00:53:19,760 --> 00:53:24,400
property where technically it's a
commercial property so you're not

759
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:28,960
eligible for municipal for regular city
trash pickup. As far as the water bill

760
00:53:26,319 --> 00:53:32,400
goes, I'm not sure what the legality of
that is with I mean technically your

761
00:53:30,960 --> 00:53:36,800
landlord is the customer. So I'm not
sure legally if we're able to disclose

762
00:53:34,960 --> 00:53:40,079
that information to anybody other than
your landlord. We may be able we'll have

763
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:43,359
to look at
>> maybe not when it's initially late, but

764
00:53:41,680 --> 00:53:47,280
when it gets into the delinquent phase,
we may be able to notify you then. Well,

765
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:50,880
I've been talking to him and working
with him and if anything I can do for

766
00:53:49,599 --> 00:53:56,240
him, I will
>> and um because I like living here in

767
00:53:52,720 --> 00:54:00,559
Frostber, but it was quite a scare and I
don't want to be homeless again. So, or

768
00:53:58,240 --> 00:54:04,960
I mean I don't want to be homeless here
or I don't want that risk. We weren't

769
00:54:03,119 --> 00:54:06,319
homeless. I don't want the risk of being
homeless.

770
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:10,960
» Absolutely. We don't want that.
>> So, but we called around and there's no

771
00:54:08,319 --> 00:54:15,920
there's nowhere for us to go. it was the
problem too just as in in in case things

772
00:54:14,319 --> 00:54:22,319
really did fell through
>> and um but um anyway that's all I have

773
00:54:19,359 --> 00:54:24,960
to say let me look at my notes here um
but we'll continue to work with Jay

774
00:54:24,000 --> 00:54:29,359
Hovatter
>> and then um like I said if there's any

775
00:54:27,359 --> 00:54:33,520
way you can give us a heads up you know
if there's any problems coming our way

776
00:54:31,680 --> 00:54:37,839
um we did apply for a loan but we were
turned down for it to try and play the

777
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:41,520
water pay the water bill we don't have
access to that much money right away

778
00:54:40,319 --> 00:54:43,680
So, um,
>> yeah,

779
00:54:41,760 --> 00:54:45,760
» but anyway, we I like living here and we
want to stay.

780
00:54:44,319 --> 00:54:51,440
» We appreciate that. We like having
>> Yes, we like him to stay.

781
00:54:47,200 --> 00:54:55,359
» But Luke has been very apologetic and he
is very concerned and he wants to get

782
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:59,599
back on track.
>> So, um, I would say hopefully you'll

783
00:54:58,880 --> 00:55:02,559
work with
>> Oh, yeah. We'll continue to work with

784
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:05,359
anybody. We said, I'm not sure that the
two of you were here at the beginning of

785
00:55:03,599 --> 00:55:09,440
the meeting, but earlier we talked about
another issue, and we said with any

786
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:13,839
anything that is involved with code
enforcement or any of that kind of

787
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:17,119
stuff, we're we're not here to be
punitive. We're not here to punish

788
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:20,640
people. What we really want is
compliance. So, whatever property

789
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:25,119
owners, whether that be landlords or or
or you know, single homes or whatever,

790
00:55:23,599 --> 00:55:28,319
whenever there are problems, we we do
our best to work with anybody, okay? As

791
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:30,800
much as we can because we don't want to
punish people. I mean, if we will if we

792
00:55:30,000 --> 00:55:32,640
have to, but we don't,
>> especially people who are not

793
00:55:31,839 --> 00:55:36,000
responsible,
>> right? [laughter]

794
00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:39,760
» I mean, it's not your fault.
>> Well, I just wanted to show up and let

795
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:43,280
you know that that there are tenants,
you know, there and Luke is working to

796
00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:45,839
get back on his feet again.
>> Okay.

797
00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:47,200
» And um thank you for your time.
>> Yes, ma'am. Thank you.

798
00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:50,799
» You're welcome.
>> Thanks.

799
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:54,799
» One thing that we can do is so the state
of Maryland says that we have to give a

800
00:55:52,640 --> 00:55:59,839
two notice, which is why that happened.
Um but we did actually wait until water

801
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:02,559
set to be shut off to do the two week
notice instead of doing it two weeks

802
00:56:01,119 --> 00:56:04,880
ahead of time and shutting it off on
that date

803
00:56:03,359 --> 00:56:08,400
» because residents live there. So we
should be able to do at least a

804
00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:11,839
four-week notice do it two weeks earlier
and then two weeks pass off. So at the

805
00:56:10,799 --> 00:56:14,400
very least we should be able to do that.
I will look into it.

806
00:56:12,799 --> 00:56:21,200
» Yeah, that would be great. Okay.
>> And I believe that with the notice

807
00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:26,559
tenants get a list of measures that they
can take.

808
00:56:22,319 --> 00:56:31,200
» We did and I know um we didn't get that
with the notice.

809
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:35,359
gave me his card and wanted me to give
his card to all the tenants and I did

810
00:56:33,359 --> 00:56:37,280
» and he wrote down this Maryland state
attorney general's number on it.

811
00:56:36,799 --> 00:56:42,400
» Okay.
>> So, we called them

812
00:56:38,960 --> 00:56:46,400
» and we did file a complaint. They have a
landlord tenant section. Yeah. So, we

813
00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:52,720
filed with the Maryland State Attorney
General's Office and they had sent me a

814
00:56:49,599 --> 00:56:58,160
copy of the correspondence they sent to
my landlord

815
00:56:54,960 --> 00:57:04,480
» and they requested that he resolved the
trash issue and they also I filed again

816
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:08,000
for the water and they requested that he
pay the water bill. He did pay [snorts]

817
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:12,319
the water bill. So,
>> but we're still I don't know. I I don't

818
00:57:11,119 --> 00:57:16,720
know what to do about the trash. It's
either going to be a dumpster.

819
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:20,400
you know what I mean or something
>> eventually I'm assuming the contractor

820
00:57:18,559 --> 00:57:23,760
will take over
>> subcontractor

821
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:27,440
» unless the city will the city continue
to pick that up

822
00:57:25,839 --> 00:57:31,280
» so we are doing that as part of an
abatement process so he's getting cited

823
00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:33,680
anytime we pick up
>> so it costs much more than a

824
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:37,200
» contractor
>> it would be much more cost effective for

825
00:57:35,599 --> 00:57:39,200
him to hire a contractor if he's going
to do it with us it's going to cost a

826
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:44,720
lot more
>> okay

827
00:57:41,119 --> 00:57:47,359
» it's cost only $85 in overhead every
time I have to pick one up.

828
00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:50,400
» Is that right?
>> So, it's it's that every week plus a

829
00:57:49,040 --> 00:57:52,319
$500 citation.
>> Yeah.

830
00:57:50,720 --> 00:57:55,680
» Um and that's weekly.
>> I just don't want to keep going.

831
00:57:55,119 --> 00:57:59,440
» Y
>> and we just have some heads up. You're

832
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:02,079
like I cannot come up with a lot of
money right away

833
00:58:01,119 --> 00:58:04,960
» to help him.
>> We'll we'll continue with Jay. We'll

834
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:09,960
we'll continue to monitor it
>> to work with.

835
00:58:06,319 --> 00:58:09,960
» Absolutely. Yes, ma'am.

836
00:58:10,000 --> 00:58:14,240
» Thank you.
>> Anything further? Anyone else? present

837
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:16,880
that would wish us to speak.
Commissioner Gats,

838
00:58:16,160 --> 00:58:19,839
» ex commissioner.
>> Okay. Former commissioner.

839
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:22,839
» Former commissioner [laughter]
that

840
00:58:23,839 --> 00:58:28,875
» have five commissioners.
>> Once you're a commissioner, you know,

841
00:58:26,480 --> 00:58:34,680
» you're always a commission.
[snorts]

842
00:58:30,640 --> 00:58:34,680
» It's kind of like being a jet.

843
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:47,760
» Good evening, Mayor Commissioner. Um,
I'm Woody Gats. I'm a resident of Bradic

844
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:53,599
Heights, a former commissioner of public
works and founder of the city's green

845
00:58:50,640 --> 00:58:59,040
team. So, last week at your work session
when I heard about sustainability and

846
00:58:55,440 --> 00:59:04,160
such, my ears kind of perked up and I'm
volunteering to be on whatever effort

847
00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:08,960
the city is taking on that. I hope it
actually gets opened up to anybody in

848
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:14,880
the city who's a resident and has some
background, interest, whatever. Uh

849
00:59:11,359 --> 00:59:19,440
sustainability is no small effort and it
doesn't like happen and then it's over.

850
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:25,280
So uh if if that's going to happen, I'd
be very willing, desirous to be part of

851
00:59:22,480 --> 00:59:32,160
that. Do you have plans right now for
how that not specifics, but in general

852
00:59:29,136 --> 00:59:36,000
[snorts] might be addressed by the city?
>> I'm not sure which sustainability

853
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:40,640
initiative you're referring to because
we have several.

854
00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:46,079
» Well, it was on last week's agenda.
It said micro grid and sustainability

855
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:50,160
» and that's the first that I had heard of
it since I had not been attending

856
00:59:48,400 --> 00:59:52,799
meetings too much.
>> Um

857
00:59:52,061 --> 00:59:55,520
[snorts]
>> so it has to do with our micro grid

858
00:59:55,119 --> 00:59:58,240
project.
>> It was item

859
00:59:56,640 --> 01:00:02,880
» the resiliency project.
>> It's item G says micro grid and

860
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:04,799
sustainability update.
Um

861
01:00:03,599 --> 01:00:08,960
» yeah, there were there were several
grants that we were dealing with, two

862
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:18,559
grants and what one of which
>> we have applied for um in amended form

863
01:00:13,680 --> 01:00:26,799
and another one that we have turned down
with the um prospect of applying for a

864
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:31,280
replacement for that one um that will
open up in September.

865
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:35,200
» There's a lot of work to be done on
that.

866
01:00:32,319 --> 01:00:40,400
Right. [snorts] Uh, and I looked online.
I actually saw some things online, but

867
01:00:37,839 --> 01:00:44,640
different ones were open and not in
terms of having the number to pull plug

868
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:48,880
in to to get access and all those kinds
of things. So, uh, yeah, if there's a

869
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:53,119
meeting coming up, please, please let me
know. We're announcing to the, you know,

870
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:57,359
at these meetings so that people can
know. Some of the articles that I've

871
01:00:55,599 --> 01:01:01,599
been reading recently where talk about
the whole idea of the more people you

872
01:00:59,520 --> 01:01:05,119
get involved before there's an
emergency,

873
01:01:02,799 --> 01:01:09,520
» the smoother it all all goes. You know,
you can almost have like neighborhood

874
01:01:07,520 --> 01:01:14,160
» mini groups or something like that. Of
course, the not

875
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:17,920
» such that it's got so many resources
building wise that, you know, you can

876
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:23,107
have it all over the place, but you
know, get some good buildings identified

877
01:01:20,640 --> 01:01:24,079
and people identified, organizations
[cough]

878
01:01:23,762 --> 01:01:26,559
» [clears throat]
>> So sir, let me know.

879
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:31,200
» Thank you, sir.
>> Thank you.

880
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,319
» I have a question. I don't need to even
go up there.

881
01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:36,960
» Okay.
>> What happened to our very cool large

882
01:01:35,359 --> 01:01:42,640
flag?
>> So on July 24 on it. I remember because

883
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:45,920
it was the day of our July council
meeting. So last month when we were here

884
01:01:44,559 --> 01:01:47,040
and if you remember because you were
here.

885
01:01:46,160 --> 01:01:49,680
» Oh, it was terrible.
>> We had a terrible rainstorm.

886
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:53,680
» I stayed home because of
>> Yes. So we had So we had a terrible

887
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:58,000
rainstorm that day and a combination of
the rain and the wind and I guess the

888
01:01:55,359 --> 01:02:02,799
flag was it's big so it was very heavy
and wet. It um broke the pulley at the

889
01:02:01,280 --> 01:02:07,520
top of the pole that help holds it up
and it fell.

890
01:02:03,839 --> 01:02:12,640
» So the city does not own that flag pole
or the land there that that little park

891
01:02:09,839 --> 01:02:16,160
» belongs to the um American Legion. So
we've been in contact with them and

892
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:18,400
offered our assistance whenever they're
whenever they have a plan for how

893
01:02:17,440 --> 01:02:20,640
they're going to fix it or what they're
going to do. We've offered our

894
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:23,200
assistance, but they're they're not
ready yet or they they don't have to

895
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:25,040
what they need yet.
>> Okay.

896
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:28,559
» Yeah. It broke the rope and the pulley
and everything.

897
01:02:26,319 --> 01:02:32,480
» So, for the 250 celebration, we had
actually ordered a a replacement big

898
01:02:31,119 --> 01:02:35,520
flag because the flag that was up there
was a bit older.

899
01:02:33,599 --> 01:02:39,839
» Um that didn't come in on time. They're
backward because it's the 250 stuff. So,

900
01:02:37,680 --> 01:02:43,280
the Legion put that flag up. Um because
it's older, it may be made of like a

901
01:02:41,920 --> 01:02:46,240
thicker material.
>> So, with the rain and the wind, it may

902
01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:50,480
have soaked up with their water and just
became extra heavy.

903
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:55,040
Luckily, I think the the new flag is in.
So, we do have a a new one as well, but

904
01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:57,599
right now the pole in the room.
>> Is it going to be big?

905
01:02:56,240 --> 01:03:00,400
» Yeah, I think we got one as big as the
one that was on

906
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:04,040
» because that one was just older and was
starting to get a little

907
01:03:04,720 --> 01:03:09,280
» anything else members of the public
wishing to come forward.

908
01:03:08,319 --> 01:03:12,559
» Commissioner Coburn, do you have
anything you'd like to say?

909
01:03:10,319 --> 01:03:16,640
» Um, I just want to thank everybody for
coming out tonight. Um, and I also want

910
01:03:14,960 --> 01:03:21,760
to thank the great staff who's been
working, especially Mr. Lindsay, um, who

911
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:25,039
put in a pretty hard week last week and
I believe the week before.

912
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:30,233
» Um,
water situation.

913
01:03:27,039 --> 01:03:30,233
» Thank you. [snorts]

914
01:03:30,319 --> 01:03:36,880
» Thank you, sir. Commissioner, one more
thing, too. Um, Commissioner Forsight

915
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:39,280
and I attended the ribbon cutting um for
Midland.

916
01:03:37,599 --> 01:03:42,640
» Yeah. Their multi-purpose building.
Yeah.

917
01:03:39,680 --> 01:03:46,480
» Um, it was very nice. Nicely attended.
Um, Yeah, they had a good program.

918
01:03:44,559 --> 01:03:48,880
» Yes, it was very nice.
>> Very good.

919
01:03:47,440 --> 01:03:53,104
» Commissioner Forsight,
>> just want to announce some things coming

920
01:03:50,480 --> 01:03:56,640
up. Uh though maybe you were planning on
[laughter]

921
01:03:53,839 --> 01:04:01,920
» um on September 3rd, uh Thursday, the
Cruise and Main Street takes place from

922
01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:06,400
5 to 10. On Sunday, September 6, we have
the very popular Western Maryland Craft

923
01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:13,039
Beverage Festival up at Havlin Park from
noon to 6. On Wednesday, September 9th

924
01:04:09,599 --> 01:04:18,799
is the block party from 6:00 to 9. And
then on Saturday and Sunday, September

925
01:04:15,599 --> 01:04:23,520
12th and 13th, marking the end of the
pool season, is the dog splash. So, all

926
01:04:21,839 --> 01:04:25,920
the pups are all ready getting all
excited.

927
01:04:24,160 --> 01:04:29,520
» When is the last day for the pool for
human beings?

928
01:04:26,559 --> 01:04:34,880
» For human beings. Uh, well, there's just
weekends from the start of school. So,

929
01:04:32,720 --> 01:04:38,799
then right before then, I didn't write
down

930
01:04:37,839 --> 01:04:42,559
» Labor Day.
>> Yeah.

931
01:04:40,319 --> 01:04:45,280
Aren't they also open weekends?
>> Yeah, it's weekends until Labor Day.

932
01:04:44,960 --> 01:04:48,720
Yeah.
>> Okay.

933
01:04:47,359 --> 01:04:53,359
» Thank you, Commissioner Grove.
>> Yeah. Just another comment about the

934
01:04:50,559 --> 01:04:58,400
construction work on Mccala Street. Uh
obviously, it's a difficult time for

935
01:04:55,280 --> 01:05:03,520
people who live on Mclla Street, but uh
I'd like to thank EA Construction

936
01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:08,240
because after every day they work, they
clean up completely and make that road

937
01:05:06,319 --> 01:05:10,400
that that people can get get through.
They're very professional with what

938
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:13,039
they're doing.
>> Nice to hear.

939
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:17,599
» It's worth saying as well that if you
live in that area and you need to get to

940
01:05:14,799 --> 01:05:21,839
your home that they are they will let
you get to your home. You just might

941
01:05:19,359 --> 01:05:25,839
have to flag it out and ask.
>> Very good. Commissioner Smouse,

942
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:29,039
» just want to remind everyone just like
um Chief said earlier, just remember

943
01:05:27,680 --> 01:05:33,359
school's coming back. There's going to
be buses. There's going to be little

944
01:05:30,400 --> 01:05:36,160
kids. Just be careful and cautious.
>> Very good. Only thing I would add to

945
01:05:34,799 --> 01:05:38,880
that is just welcoming back the students
on behalf of this council, everyone at

946
01:05:37,920 --> 01:05:42,240
this table, and everyone in town,
welcoming back not only our public

947
01:05:40,319 --> 01:05:46,160
school students, but the folks at FSU.
Glad to have them back. And just a

948
01:05:44,079 --> 01:05:48,880
reminder that on Monday, uh, September
7th, all city offices, with the

949
01:05:47,680 --> 01:05:56,280
exception of the police department, will
be closed for Labor Day. Anything else?

950
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:56,280
» 6:35 meetings adjourned.