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underway. Were you uh welcome to all

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Willis. She'll be presenting to us this

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evening. Also welcome um Commissioner

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let me think I Who's here from the

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animal shelter? Here's our animal

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shelter presenters. What's your name?

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thanks all in attendance and to the

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council. Um Mark uh Kotrrell is excused

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tonight. He's out of town. So we will

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call it to order. This is a regular

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meeting of the city c Fruit height city

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council. Somebody say genie. Did I miss

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something? Uh Tuesday August 18th um 910

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South Mountain Road. And um we will

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begin with a pledge of allegiance which

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I will lead. Then we'll have a prayer or

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a thought provided by Gary and then

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proceed to roll call. Please join me and

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» Please begin. I pledge algiance to the

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flag of the United States of America and

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to the republic for which it stands, one

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nation under God, indivisible, with

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liberty and justice for all.

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dear kind heavenly father, we're

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thankful for the opportunity to meet as

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a city council and having our residents

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come and participate in our meeting. We

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ask thee to bless us as we go throughout

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our meeting tonight and our agenda that

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we will have thy guidance and that we

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will have a spirit of uh cooperation and

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learning. We ask for thy favors, thy

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blessings in the name of thy son Jesus

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Christ. statement.

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>> Thank you, Gary. Haley, roll call.

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» Um, council member Gary Anderson

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>> Council member Eileen Moss

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>> Council member Blake Winslow

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>> Mayor Jeannie Groberg

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>> here. Thank you. Number two is

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declaration of conflicts of interest.

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any council members who uh should

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declare a conflict of interest this

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to reports. Council reports. Let's um I

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never remember which end we started at

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with last time, but we'll start here. Do

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emails and stuff to go over, but nothing

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on with the um legislative policy

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committee. We're in the interim session

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tomorrow. Um and a number of pieces of

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legislation that will be affecting well

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proposed, put a big old asterisk next to

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it. We don't know for sure how things

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things in the land use space that we'll

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proceed forward, but nothing to report

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information, the Utah League is uh is

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our our strongest um lobbying effort and

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uh group that we belong to at the Hill.

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and Blake and myself and Darren attend

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all the regular meetings, but Blake has

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the extra mile and volunteered to be on

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this housing subcommittee. So, he is um

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doing a great job representing our

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little city in those in those talks.

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brief. I want to recognize we had an

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employee of 26 years with the city who

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is retiring I think actually as of the 1

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of September, right? We had a little

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farewell kind of congratulation and

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thank you party this last week for Ted

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Perry. And if any of you know him, he's

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drains that I think started in parks and

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has done many things. Am I right on that

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Darren? Throughout the 26 years. And so

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just a public note of appreciation for

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him. He's not one who likes to be up

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here and and personally stand and and

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get that attention, but I want to

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publicly recognize and thank him. So,

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thank you, Ted, for your service and

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many years. Um, also just by way of

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information for the public, um, an email

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that just came in tonight from Blake

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Moore's office, our congressman, he will

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be, um, conducting,

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um, town halls, uh, in our county the

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next several days. I really only paid

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attention to the Davis County one, which

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is Thursday. this Thursday. If you'd

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something, whatever you'd like to, it's

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information can be found easily on his

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website. But for the record here, I'll

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state it's in Clearfield this Thursday

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from 12 to 1:30 at the Clearfield Arts

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Center, 140 Center Street in Clearfield

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if you'd like to make contact with our

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congressman. That is all I'm going to

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say for my report tonight. We'll get on

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they've started the street maintenance

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project. They've lowered all the

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collars. They'll be here the beginning

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of next week to start milling the roads

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week. So, it's it's going and it should

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those are sort of aware by this point.

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know that uh I'm starting to prepare for the audit that will be

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a public comment period. This is a

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30 minutes at the most. Um unless every

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challenge with that. But um please limit

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name and address um as you begin. Uh,

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anyone public comment period is now open

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Thank you so much, Mayor Groberg and

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director, Michelle Hicks. She's

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fantastic. Here's the office manager of

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animal care. Happy for them to be here

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tonight with you. and they'll they'll

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I'm going to leave some of my cards

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which have my cell phone on it. So, I'm

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one of the three county commissioners. I

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live close. I live I even do dog walking

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this area. So, I live really close. Um,

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you can reach out to me anytime on any

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subject of the county. You can text me

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to my cell phone and share your name and

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share what the topic is that you have

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questions about and I can text you back

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and I can also call you and we can find

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a time you can come into my office um in

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government is a big deal. That's where

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special community. So, to not take much

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time, really truly uh take advantage of

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my card. If we run out of cards, then

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Mayor Groberg has my cell. I know

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pretty public with my cell because it's never been really abused in a bad

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way. people have genuine interest and I

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love that. So anyway, thank you again

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for your service. Thanks for being a

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great community. I appreciate Fruit

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Heights very much, the sister city to

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presentations. 5.1 is animal care of

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Davis County. So, please come forward

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animal care director. Um I've been

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working there for a full year now. So,

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I'm wet behind the ears. If I do more

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puns, animal bad animal puns, just

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bear with me. It's part of the job,

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right? Um Michelle, uh so to Michelle's,

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wanted to come today and um share in

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this presentation with us. So, we'll

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just go ahead and go through it. If

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there's any questions, please let me

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know, but it's kind of an overview, but

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if you need me to get down into some of

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the numbers, I'm happy to do so. So, our

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core community service is our pet

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adoption, owner surreners, our field

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enforcement, uh, volunteer and foster

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programs. Normally here, I would put

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community cats, but we, you guys don't

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seem to have a community cat problem, or

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if you do, we just haven't heard about

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it yet. Um, but we put in pet food

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pantry in there. And then emergency

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readiness, which I can um, talk about a

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little bit further. On the pet adoption,

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we is really easy. Um, residents can go

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to our website or our Facebook at AC/DC

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Pets or come into our shelter. Uh, we

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make it really easy on saying yes. We

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make behavior notes every time an

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animal's in our care every day. We make

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some kind of behavior note, whether it's

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with a volunteer or one of our um,

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shelter attendants. And so that helps us

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kind of guide the the adoption process

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with people that are coming in to um,

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view the animals and learn more about

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them. Um, we offer trials with the

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animals. So, we want to make sure that

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this is a a appropriate match not just

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for the people but for the animal as

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well. So, we offer weekend wax where a

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resident can take home the dogs for a

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weekend couple of days and figure out

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them in their home and if they, you

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know, get along with the resident

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animals, if they're getting along with

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the children. And so we really like that

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program and to try not to get so many

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adoption returns where we have them test

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out. We kind of it's like a library

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book. We check them out and they can be

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checked back in or they can be adopted

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at that time.

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>> Um and we can also offer assisted meet

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and greets. So there oftent times that

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there's another animal in the home,

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another dog in the home, um say they're

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adopting a dog, they can come up to our

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shelter and we can assist the meet and

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greet between dogs. We don't do cat

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testing because we never know how that's

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going to work and currently in our

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shelter it just doesn't make good sense.

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We don't have kind of a space for that.

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Um we do our adoption uh every dog or

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cat adopted with us receives a spay and

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neuter, a microchip, their vaccines, and

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a free year license through our partner

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DocuPet. And adoption fees are anywhere

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from $25 uh for small critters up to

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$200 for puppies and kind of anywhere in

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between. um our owner surreners. Um not

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every mun municipal shelter takes in

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owner surreners. It's not actually a

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requirement by law, but Davis County has

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you know that's part of the you know

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service that we provide and I think it's

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appropriate service that we provide

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where owners can for whatever reason uh surrender their pets to us. We

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do like it to be scheduled just to make

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sure we're making, you know, we don't

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have too many animals coming in at the

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same time or we're not overloaded with

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animals. So, we do like that scheduled.

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Um, but it's just really to manage the

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intake. We, it is a judgment free zone.

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We're not judging them uh when they come

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in and and you know, need to surrender

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their pets. We have Hill Air Force Base

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on there a lot of the times if they're

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moving, you know, cities or even states

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that they can't bring their animal with

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us. So that we take an owner surrenders

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there. But there's a number of reasons.

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Housing is a big one. Um that we try to

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do uh health conditions. There are

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people that end up in the hospital or

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you know have kind of a catastrophic

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incident. And so we always want to make

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sure it's kind of a judgment free zone

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and we're just managing the intake. Um

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there are uh our owner surrender fee is $45. uh very manageable

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and it just helps with some of the costs

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when the animal gets brought brought in.

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And then if there are services or

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resources that we can provide the person

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um before owner surrendering and after

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if they need housing stability or say

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that they want to owner surrender an

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animal because they think they have to

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go to a the hospital for a month and

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they don't have anybody to take care of

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their animal. We also have resources. We

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partner with an organization called Ruff

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Haven which actually takes their animals

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in longer term um than we can provide.

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And so there's lots of resources that we

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can provide the residents. Um community

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pet support um is our primary goal. We

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want to make sure that the pets are

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healthy and in their homes. Um can you

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go to the slide one more up for me?

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Thank you. Um, and we want to make sure

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that they are, you know, properly cared

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for. And a lot of the way we do that is

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through field enforcement. Um, I'll get

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into the numbers in a little bit, but

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part of our field enforcement, we have

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10 community, uh, animal care officers.

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One of those being a community cat

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officer that, uh, go over into the

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entire county. Um, and so a lot of that

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is making sure that we're doing welfare

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checks or nuisance calls or, you know,

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somebody's dog is barking too much. Our

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animal care officers will actually go

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out there, make sure that the animal has

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food and water, make sure that the

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animal owner has resources if they need

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it, and then, you know, talk to

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specifically on the barking calls, we'll

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talk to the the person who's made the

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complaint. if if it's something we need

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to, you know, provide bark boxes for or

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some other kind of resources, we also

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provide that. We have a great volunteer

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and foster program. I'll talk a little

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bit more at the end. And our emergency

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readiness. So, uh, prior to really a

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week ago, we didn't have an emergency

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coordinator in our shelter, uh, totally

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focused on pets. not just the pets that

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we have in the shelter, but pets that

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are in the homes of all of you um and

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all of your residents. And so hopefully

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um you know, with this new position, um

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we are going to be able to, you know,

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work with the emergency operations um

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director at the at the Davis County

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level. There'll be state resources and

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all that other stuff that comes along

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with that. So hopefully by the next time

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I come back, we'll give you more

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information kind of about our plan and

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our SOPs on that stuff. So that's great.

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I have actually have a question about

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that. So, is it the intent that like if

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there's a let's say a wildfire in the

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area that that this person will go in

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and actually contact people, make sure

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that their their like livestock and pets

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are taken care of.

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>> It it will be a livestock and pets and

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yeah, so we need to be able to house

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those animals. So, say I mean there was

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a a fire up in uh Fruit Heights not too

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long ago. It thankfully

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was shut down very quickly. So, that was

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great. But yes, so we'll have places for

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them to go or uh optional sites where

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they'll be able to take the animals into

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this optional site until they can figure

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out um what to do or where they're going

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or you know that kind of stuff or if

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it's just for the night just in um what

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do they call it when you just evacuate

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really quickly and

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>> and hopefully help with that but also

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get them resources to where their

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animals need to go. there. Um there was

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an organization that actually gave uh

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the Red Cross a a really good monetary

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donation recently and so we're hoping to

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tap into that as well. But yes,

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resources for all of those incidences.

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Yeah.

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>> Great.

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Um okay, we can move to the next

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one.

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>> Oh, we're we're going to get on to that

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with the next page. Thank you. Yeah. So,

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our pet food pantry, um people are

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struggling. There's a a lot going on.

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Um, and so if we can take kind of one

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thing off their um, list, we try to do

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that. Say that they don't have enough

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money um, or uh, uh, access to and from

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someplace, we have a pet food pantry

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that's entirely donation based. Um, we

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have an Amazon wish list that people can

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um, donate food from or a lot of the

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times people are just bringing it in.

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And if you need help for the month or a

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couple of months, please come in. We'll

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get you a bag of dog food, cat food, and

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uh make sure that the animal gets kind

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of the care that they need while you're

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kind of going through that hard time. Uh

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>> are those needs all met through

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donations?

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>> The the pet food.

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>> Pet food.

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>> Yes. All through donations. So, we have

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actually fantastic community that I I

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don't even know. We called um because we

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were running out of blankets and towels

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and we use blankets and towels all day

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every day. And the amount of blankets

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and towels that we got was insane. Like

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our entire attic is filled right now and

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like the shelter attendants are folding

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everything up and making sure that they

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So we're going to be good on blankets

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and towels for like a year.

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>> So we don't currently

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no more.

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>> Yes.

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» Yeah. Is that right?

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» Yeah.

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We we have a fantastic community. So, um

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uh our lost and found directory, if you

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ever um come AC or come across a lost um

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animal or if you are lost your animal,

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we have a great directory. So, if the

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animals that come into our shelter that

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are strays, we post them all over the

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internet. We post them on our Facebook

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page. Um, and we have this great

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community that kind of just shares them

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in all of the little ancillary

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neighborhood um, Facebook pages as well.

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And then we have um, great uh, website

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that also you can go and post your lost

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dog or post a found dog or cat or animal

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that people will be able to kind of

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review that. What I will say though is

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that those are great. it. There's nothing wrong with coming into

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the shelter just to get an eye on all of

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the pets there because somebody may have

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gotten a bad picture or there's, you

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know, not the right side because I'm

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like, I know my dog has a black splotch

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on the left, you know, the left cheek,

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but it's a picture on the right cheek.

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So, there's nothing wrong with coming

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into the shelter just to do a quick view

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of that. And then I've already t kind of

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talked about emergency response. Okay,

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we can go to the next.

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And um these are kind of your guys'

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stats um for Fruit Heights specifically.

536
00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,799
Um and this is specifically with our

537
00:20:46,799 --> 00:20:49,520
field um services team. So all of our

538
00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,039
animal care officers, this is what

539
00:20:51,039 --> 00:20:54,080
they're doing in your community. Uh it

540
00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:57,200
comes up to about 1.5% of the the

541
00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,000
services that the ACOs do. And you guys

542
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:02,400
are about, if the math was correct, and

543
00:21:02,400 --> 00:21:04,400
I'm not saying that it was, but you guys

544
00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:08,640
are about 1.5% of our duties with Fruit

545
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,360
Heights. And I think per capita that is

546
00:21:11,360 --> 00:21:12,640
sits about right.

547
00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,320
>> So how long is this period?

548
00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:16,320
>> This is actually from January to June of

549
00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:16,720
this year.

550
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:17,600
>> Okay. Six months.

551
00:21:17,600 --> 00:21:19,600
>> Six months. Correct. So we've had seven

552
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,480
adoptions. Um 22 bite investigations.

553
00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:24,880
That's actually your top metric. That is

554
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:27,360
not unusual. That's pretty much the top

555
00:21:27,360 --> 00:21:29,440
metric for every city as we were doing

556
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:32,159
this. So, that is not unusual. Um, 15

557
00:21:32,159 --> 00:21:34,240
park patrols and that number is probably

558
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,320
a little bit higher. If you notice our

559
00:21:36,320 --> 00:21:39,280
nuisance calls about halfway through the

560
00:21:39,280 --> 00:21:40,960
beginning of the year, we were putting

561
00:21:40,960 --> 00:21:42,559
park patrols in the nuisance calls, but

562
00:21:42,559 --> 00:21:43,840
that didn't make sense. It wasn't a

563
00:21:43,840 --> 00:21:47,520
nuisance. And so, we kind of uh pulled

564
00:21:47,520 --> 00:21:49,039
that one out and now it's just

565
00:21:49,039 --> 00:21:50,880
specifically to our park patrols.

566
00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:52,640
>> What's the difference between a nuisance

567
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:54,720
call and a bark patrol? Nuisance calls

568
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:56,559
are like barking, somebody's walking

569
00:21:56,559 --> 00:21:58,640
without at a leash. People residents

570
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,960
calling in about another animal that's

571
00:22:00,960 --> 00:22:02,320
kind of being a nuisance to them,

572
00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:03,679
whether it's in their neighborhood, in

573
00:22:03,679 --> 00:22:06,080
their park, or anything like that.

574
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,159
>> So, not not a bark because I

575
00:22:08,159 --> 00:22:09,280
>> park a park patrol.

576
00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:10,240
>> Oh, park patrol.

577
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:11,440
>> Park patrol. Yes.

578
00:22:11,440 --> 00:22:12,400
>> Park.

579
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,320
>> Yes. Park patrol.

580
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,240
>> Oh, no. Park. Yes. Sorry.

581
00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:17,200
>> What's the difference?

582
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:19,760
>> Yeah. But a park patrol is not as a

583
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:21,440
result of a phone call. It's Is that

584
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:22,960
what you're saying? Yeah. park patrol,

585
00:22:22,960 --> 00:22:24,640
they actually go to your go to your

586
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,280
parks and your trails and actually see

587
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:29,200
people talk to people that have their

588
00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,159
dogs in the parks. Um, we'll get to it a

589
00:22:32,159 --> 00:22:34,240
little bit later, but there are uh times

590
00:22:34,240 --> 00:22:36,480
when dogs are off leash or they're

591
00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:37,919
running the trail off leash or anything

592
00:22:37,919 --> 00:22:39,760
like that. So, that's what we try to get

593
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:41,919
out and educate the the general public

594
00:22:41,919 --> 00:22:43,760
on those things during during the park

595
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,840
patrols. Um, the So, you'll notice that

596
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,679
we've had seven adoptions, but also

597
00:22:49,679 --> 00:22:52,080
seven owner surreners. That's also not

598
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:54,960
uncommon and um to have kind of

599
00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:56,799
adoptions and owner surreners around the

600
00:22:56,799 --> 00:23:00,159
same amount um in in the smaller cities.

601
00:23:00,159 --> 00:23:02,480
Um animal versus animal is actually when

602
00:23:02,480 --> 00:23:05,200
animals are fighting each other. Um and

603
00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:07,840
then owner assists. So we'll go to the

604
00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:10,159
person's home and help them if they need

605
00:23:10,159 --> 00:23:14,080
help taking a um a dog into a car or

606
00:23:14,080 --> 00:23:15,840
getting them to a vet or having them

607
00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,200
come up to the shelter. That's kind of

608
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:19,360
the owner assist. Wellness checks is

609
00:23:19,360 --> 00:23:20,720
somebody's just calling and saying, "I

610
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,320
don't think this dog has water or I

611
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:23,679
don't think that this animal's being

612
00:23:23,679 --> 00:23:26,159
well taken care of." So, that's a a

613
00:23:26,159 --> 00:23:28,559
wellness check. Agency assists is when

614
00:23:28,559 --> 00:23:31,679
officers will call us and to help us to

615
00:23:31,679 --> 00:23:35,200
help with a something on scene, whether

616
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,880
it's a car accident, a DUI, or you know,

617
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,880
an unfortunate situation in the home.

618
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:42,720
That's kind of where our agency assist

619
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:45,280
comes. And again, community cats at 0%.

620
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,880
What I will say is, you know, our

621
00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:48,559
shelter is in Fruit Heights, so you guys

622
00:23:48,559 --> 00:23:50,559
have 100% shelter access. It's super

623
00:23:50,559 --> 00:23:52,320
close. It's super nice that we're in

624
00:23:52,320 --> 00:23:54,640
your backyard. I personally love it.

625
00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:57,360
Can't beat the Can't beat the uh view

626
00:23:57,360 --> 00:23:59,840
from my office that I don't let anybody

627
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,880
else see. It's my view. So,

628
00:24:02,880 --> 00:24:04,480
um this is just kind of a quick

629
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,559
distribution of the services versus the

630
00:24:06,559 --> 00:24:08,320
county and kind of some percentages on

631
00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,520
that. Um small footprint, um high

632
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,360
access, and we have focused field

633
00:24:13,360 --> 00:24:15,200
responses for that. So,

634
00:24:15,200 --> 00:24:17,279
>> um, does your officers do anything with

635
00:24:17,279 --> 00:24:19,039
wild animals like like raccoons or

636
00:24:19,039 --> 00:24:19,679
things like that?

637
00:24:19,679 --> 00:24:23,600
>> We are specifically our our the laws

638
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,720
surrounding wildlife is is not ours to

639
00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:28,880
take on. Um, we are specifically

640
00:24:28,880 --> 00:24:31,840
companion animals only. Um, I do have

641
00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:33,679
information raccoons is something that

642
00:24:33,679 --> 00:24:36,159
we used to do, but there are many many

643
00:24:36,159 --> 00:24:38,000
reasons why we don't do raccoons and I'm

644
00:24:38,000 --> 00:24:39,679
happy to kind of share those talking

645
00:24:39,679 --> 00:24:42,400
points with um, you all. I I don't have

646
00:24:42,400 --> 00:24:44,799
them here with me. Um but no wildlife

647
00:24:44,799 --> 00:24:46,799
calls we would um forward them to the

648
00:24:46,799 --> 00:24:47,840
wildlife

649
00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:50,960
>> DWR thank you division of wild wildlife

650
00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:53,440
resources. So yeah all right we can move

651
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:53,760
on to

652
00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:55,840
>> Can I ask one little question what I'm

653
00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,480
reading here on your bar that says small

654
00:24:58,480 --> 00:25:01,279
footprint high accesses

655
00:25:01,279 --> 00:25:04,720
5% of total etc etc from having the main

656
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:06,320
county shelter located within city

657
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:07,440
limits. Does that mean there are

658
00:25:07,440 --> 00:25:08,880
satellite shelters?

659
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:10,799
>> There are not satellite shelters.

660
00:25:10,799 --> 00:25:12,400
>> Yeah, it's just that the shelter is

661
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:13,520
here. Okay. Thank you.

662
00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:15,120
>> Yeah, of course.

663
00:25:15,120 --> 00:25:17,520
>> Um, cute picture of Prince Ali. That's

664
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,279
actually his adoption photo. He's so

665
00:25:19,279 --> 00:25:21,919
cute. Um, I was actually so surprised

666
00:25:21,919 --> 00:25:24,159
that that cat stayed long as long as it

667
00:25:24,159 --> 00:25:26,240
did. I was like, how is nobody adopting

668
00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:28,720
this cat? Anyway, um, this is about city

669
00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:30,320
events and employee engagement. And it's

670
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,480
just a call for you all. We're happy to

671
00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:34,159
come to community events. If you have a

672
00:25:34,159 --> 00:25:36,480
founders day, if you guys have a I know

673
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:37,840
they're doing like night out against

674
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:40,240
crime, um, anything like that that you

675
00:25:40,240 --> 00:25:41,840
wish us to be a part of, we're happy to

676
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,840
be there. We would love to do one or two

677
00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,039
events with each city each year. And so

678
00:25:47,039 --> 00:25:48,880
anything that we can kind of be a

679
00:25:48,880 --> 00:25:50,880
partner on or kind of come to, we're

680
00:25:50,880 --> 00:25:53,039
happy to do that. Have a resource table,

681
00:25:53,039 --> 00:25:55,039
do an adoption event, anything like

682
00:25:55,039 --> 00:25:57,840
that. Um the other is employee snuggle

683
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,000
time. If you guys want us to bring

684
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,159
kittens or dogs, they will all be

685
00:26:02,159 --> 00:26:04,640
adoptable as well. Um but if you want us

686
00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:07,360
to come to do an event or or a a a

687
00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:10,880
employee um engagement event or if you

688
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,120
guys we have had some agencies reach out

689
00:26:13,120 --> 00:26:15,440
that they want to come in and walk dogs

690
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:16,960
as a team or anything like that. We're

691
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,039
happy to accommodate anything like that.

692
00:26:19,039 --> 00:26:19,360
So

693
00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:21,120
>> Darren, you're ready for a snuggle break

694
00:26:21,120 --> 00:26:25,679
with a with a cat or a dog or whatever

695
00:26:25,679 --> 00:26:26,640
>> lizard. I don't know.

696
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,080
>> If you I mean if you want to wait till

697
00:26:28,080 --> 00:26:30,320
next April where the the kitten season

698
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:32,480
is back, we're happy to do that as well.

699
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:34,240
did not know that that was something you

700
00:26:34,240 --> 00:26:34,799
did.

701
00:26:34,799 --> 00:26:36,000
>> Absolutely. Yeah.

702
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:37,039
>> Okay. Thank you.

703
00:26:37,039 --> 00:26:39,760
>> On the next one,

704
00:26:39,760 --> 00:26:42,559
>> um so this is just kind of a a

705
00:26:42,559 --> 00:26:45,279
recommendation. Um so when we're out

706
00:26:45,279 --> 00:26:47,279
doing park patrols, I've asked our ACOs

707
00:26:47,279 --> 00:26:50,400
to um kind of look around the park, see

708
00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,159
the signage, see the if there's way

709
00:26:52,159 --> 00:26:53,919
stations. A lot of the times when

710
00:26:53,919 --> 00:26:56,240
they're going out to educate um the

711
00:26:56,240 --> 00:26:57,919
animal owners, they'll be like, "Well,

712
00:26:57,919 --> 00:26:59,919
there was no sign." And so that was like

713
00:26:59,919 --> 00:27:01,840
a big thing that they've mentioned. And

714
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,120
so I had my officers kind of do a broad

715
00:27:05,120 --> 00:27:07,039
search of all of the parks in Davis

716
00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:09,520
County. And the two that um they had

717
00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:12,880
talked about kind of trying to um uh

718
00:27:12,880 --> 00:27:16,080
recommend is Nicholls Park, which the

719
00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:17,919
city website states dogs are allowed,

720
00:27:17,919 --> 00:27:20,080
but there's no physical signage on state

721
00:27:20,080 --> 00:27:22,000
indicating that dogs must be kept on a

722
00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:24,080
leash. And that's something that they

723
00:27:24,080 --> 00:27:26,559
talk about. Well, they didn't say

724
00:27:26,559 --> 00:27:28,080
anywhere and I didn't notice it

725
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,480
anywhere. Even though

726
00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,880
>> I think for all of the parks it's Yeah,

727
00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:35,279
it's a countywide ordinance. Yeah.

728
00:27:35,279 --> 00:27:37,279
>> So, residents aren't looking at

729
00:27:37,279 --> 00:27:38,960
ordinances though, they are looking at

730
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:41,200
signs. I would also say that if there

731
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:42,960
are waste stations, if there are not

732
00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,039
weigh stations, we should provide way

733
00:27:45,039 --> 00:27:47,279
stations for them. It's just an easier

734
00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:50,240
way, make it as easy as possible for

735
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:52,240
them for them to pick up after their

736
00:27:52,240 --> 00:27:55,679
animals um when they are in the parks.

737
00:27:55,679 --> 00:27:59,200
And the other one was Castle Park and

738
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:01,120
that there are no signs posted at all

739
00:28:01,120 --> 00:28:03,600
regarding with animals whether animals

740
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,360
are permitted and there are currently no

741
00:28:05,360 --> 00:28:07,360
way stations available there and they

742
00:28:07,360 --> 00:28:09,039
could we couldn't find on the website

743
00:28:09,039 --> 00:28:13,200
with whether dogs were um allowed at

744
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:16,000
that park either. Um, and so just wanted

745
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,480
to mention that

746
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:20,960
>> by a way station you mean um little

747
00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:21,600
doggy bags?

748
00:28:21,600 --> 00:28:24,559
>> Little doggy bags in a garbage can.

749
00:28:24,559 --> 00:28:24,880
So

750
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:27,120
>> yeah, that's an ongoing

751
00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:28,720
>> topic for several

752
00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:29,120
>> Yeah.

753
00:28:29,120 --> 00:28:30,159
>> individuals.

754
00:28:30,159 --> 00:28:32,240
>> It's honestly one of the main complaints

755
00:28:32,240 --> 00:28:34,720
that we get is that people are there and

756
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,120
they're stepping in all of the fun

757
00:28:37,120 --> 00:28:37,600
things.

758
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,000
>> You see the baggies all along the path.

759
00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:41,679
>> There's a there's a lot of that, too. If

760
00:28:41,679 --> 00:28:43,840
you got a dog, take care of the

761
00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:44,640
>> bag. You know,

762
00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:46,399
>> that that's part of being a responsible

763
00:28:46,399 --> 00:28:49,360
pet owner, right? Is making sure that

764
00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,440
you're cleaning up after your animal

765
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:53,600
>> because honestly, we don't want to be we

766
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:54,880
don't want to be the bad guys and we

767
00:28:54,880 --> 00:28:56,880
don't want to have to

768
00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,760
>> talk to you about picking up your dog

769
00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:01,679
excrement. So, yeah.

770
00:29:01,679 --> 00:29:02,880
>> Yeah. I think that's part of the

771
00:29:02,880 --> 00:29:06,159
responsibility of being a pet owner. You take care of it and don't leave it

772
00:29:06,159 --> 00:29:07,440
out there for other people to

773
00:29:07,440 --> 00:29:09,279
>> Correct. Correct.

774
00:29:09,279 --> 00:29:12,480
Um so this so um becoming a foster or

775
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:14,480
volunteer. We actually have a robust

776
00:29:14,480 --> 00:29:16,720
foster program and a volunteer program.

777
00:29:16,720 --> 00:29:20,000
Uh we have fosters that um uh foster

778
00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:23,520
dogs, cats, snakes, uh we had a bearded

779
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:27,279
dragon, um birds, pigeons, parakeet,

780
00:29:27,279 --> 00:29:29,200
like the the list goes on and on. So,

781
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,240
what the foster program is, um, is that,

782
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:34,000
you know, regular residents will bring

783
00:29:34,000 --> 00:29:37,039
in a dog or a cat into their home, um,

784
00:29:37,039 --> 00:29:38,640
kind of get them away from the shelter

785
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,720
space. A lot of, there are some animals

786
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,640
that do not do well in shelters. There's

787
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:44,240
some animals that rock it. They're

788
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,159
totally fine being in a shelter. They

789
00:29:46,159 --> 00:29:47,360
love hanging out with all the other

790
00:29:47,360 --> 00:29:49,600
animals, but there are some animals that

791
00:29:49,600 --> 00:29:50,720
just can't take it. And so, that's where

792
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:54,480
fosters come into play. Um, a and we

793
00:29:54,480 --> 00:29:56,240
have a foster coordinator that's amazing

794
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:58,240
and she does really really well and kind

795
00:29:58,240 --> 00:30:01,919
of, you know, has this family kind of

796
00:30:01,919 --> 00:30:03,520
dynamic with all of them. We have

797
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,360
mentors that they're part on this

798
00:30:05,360 --> 00:30:06,880
Facebook page that if somebody's having

799
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:08,799
a problem with a cat or a dog, there's

800
00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:10,559
other mentors that can kind of jump in

801
00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:12,880
and um share information. So, that's

802
00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:14,880
great. On the volunteer side, we have

803
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:17,279
volunteers that come in and do um

804
00:30:17,279 --> 00:30:20,000
enrichment. They we have one a a

805
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:21,679
gentleman that comes in five days a week

806
00:30:21,679 --> 00:30:23,200
and walks dogs for two and a half hours

807
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,880
every morning. That's his kind of

808
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:26,799
exercise for the day. And so we have

809
00:30:26,799 --> 00:30:29,120
lots of um things that we do with

810
00:30:29,120 --> 00:30:31,760
volunteers. This is actually 2025

811
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:34,480
numbers, but in 2025, Fruit Heights

812
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,480
residents specifically uh did a little

813
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:38,799
under 300 hours of volunteer work. This

814
00:30:38,799 --> 00:30:40,480
does not include the foster program.

815
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,600
This just is specific to volunteers. So

816
00:30:43,600 --> 00:30:45,520
it's easy onboarding and full support.

817
00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:47,520
we'd love to have you uh if you're

818
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,399
interested. So, and then other ways that

819
00:30:50,399 --> 00:30:52,399
you can get involved without doing, you

820
00:30:52,399 --> 00:30:54,399
know, specific foster or volunteers. You

821
00:30:54,399 --> 00:30:56,240
can go to the next page. Thank you. Are

822
00:30:56,240 --> 00:30:58,399
our sniffabouts and weekend wags. So,

823
00:30:58,399 --> 00:31:01,039
sniffabouts, uh you come in and these

824
00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:02,640
are specific to dogs. These are not

825
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:05,120
cats, but the sniffabout, you come in

826
00:31:05,120 --> 00:31:06,799
again, the checkout, you know, library

827
00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:08,960
book, check out a dog for about an hour.

828
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:10,480
You can go get them pup cups, you can go

829
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:12,720
to Lowe's, you can take them on a walk,

830
00:31:12,720 --> 00:31:15,279
you can take them on a trail. will uh

831
00:31:15,279 --> 00:31:17,440
affix them with a cute little adopt me

832
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,279
and you just people talking them and

833
00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:20,799
getting kind of out of the shelter for

834
00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:22,799
the for the day and then our weekend

835
00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:24,559
wags. It doesn't always have to lead to

836
00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:26,080
adoption. It could just be you wanting

837
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:27,440
to get the dog out of the shelter for

838
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,320
the weekend, right? Couple of days. Do

839
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:30,960
you do that?

840
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:40,470
>> Sorry.

841
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,960
» That is inaccurate. Yeah. So, it is it

842
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:44,960
doesn't mean that you have to adopt the

843
00:31:44,960 --> 00:31:46,880
dog afterwards. You might want to. We

844
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,880
call those foster fails, but you know,

845
00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,720
if you do anyway, but

846
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:52,399
>> weekend it does not have to be a

847
00:31:52,399 --> 00:31:54,399
weekend. It's any couple of days. Yeah.

848
00:31:54,399 --> 00:31:56,240
So, that's our cute little Dill. He just

849
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,240
got adopted. He's so cute after a

850
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:01,600
weekend wag actually. So, that's um the

851
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:04,080
only other thing I had is that No,

852
00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:06,720
that's all actually I had. So, any other

853
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:08,320
questions for you?

854
00:32:08,320 --> 00:32:10,399
>> Do you you participate with best

855
00:32:10,399 --> 00:32:11,919
friends? So, do sometimes the year you

856
00:32:11,919 --> 00:32:13,519
have the free adoption?

857
00:32:13,519 --> 00:32:14,000
>> So, we

858
00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,039
>> How does that how does that work?

859
00:32:15,039 --> 00:32:16,960
>> Um, we don't do necessarily free

860
00:32:16,960 --> 00:32:18,880
adoptions with Best Friends. Sometimes

861
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,120
they will run a program where they'll

862
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:23,360
will where they will give the money for

863
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:26,640
the adoptions um to us, but they haven't

864
00:32:26,640 --> 00:32:29,279
done that this year. Um, but they have

865
00:32:29,279 --> 00:32:30,720
done it, but we are a network program

866
00:32:30,720 --> 00:32:33,039
with them and did reach no kill status

867
00:32:33,039 --> 00:32:38,240
uh in 23, 24, and 25. So,

868
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,000
any other questions? Uh yeah. So a while

869
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:43,840
ago there was discussion in the county

870
00:32:43,840 --> 00:32:47,360
about updating the actual building. Is

871
00:32:47,360 --> 00:32:49,200
that still something that's being

872
00:32:49,200 --> 00:32:50,240
planned or talked about?

873
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:51,840
>> That is still the plan. I don't have

874
00:32:51,840 --> 00:32:53,679
much of an update right now. The

875
00:32:53,679 --> 00:32:56,320
architect and Lane, who's our facilities

876
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:57,600
department director, are going through

877
00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,000
the bid process right now. They I think

878
00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:02,559
they just completed it and are now

879
00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:04,559
crunching the numbers. then I'll need to

880
00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:06,799
go back to commission um because I do

881
00:33:06,799 --> 00:33:09,200
believe we'll be over budget no matter

882
00:33:09,200 --> 00:33:12,080
how much we've cut it. It is still going

883
00:33:12,080 --> 00:33:14,640
to be over budget. The feasibility study

884
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:17,679
in 2023

885
00:33:17,679 --> 00:33:19,679
>> three said that we needed a $20 million

886
00:33:19,679 --> 00:33:21,600
facility but Davis County only allocated

887
00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:24,159
the $16.5 million. So we were already

888
00:33:24,159 --> 00:33:26,880
kind of behind the behind the eight pole

889
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,600
on that. So hopefully in September,

890
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,200
we're bringing it back to commission and

891
00:33:31,200 --> 00:33:35,200
I'll I'll give you an an update when I hear from them.

892
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:36,000
>> Okay. Thank you.

893
00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:37,679
>> You're welcome. But from what I

894
00:33:37,679 --> 00:33:38,720
understand, it's still going to be in

895
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:40,480
Fruit Heights. It's going to be right in

896
00:33:40,480 --> 00:33:42,159
front of us. So we'll still have that

897
00:33:42,159 --> 00:33:44,000
kind of central location to Davis County

898
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:45,760
and and right in your backyard.

899
00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:46,240
>> Thank you.

900
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,519
>> So, welcome.

901
00:33:47,519 --> 00:33:49,440
>> Anything else, Council?

902
00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,519
>> Great. Um I have my card if you need to

903
00:33:51,519 --> 00:33:52,880
get a hold of me and then I just have

904
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:55,519
little thank you cards with our um QR

905
00:33:55,519 --> 00:33:57,440
codes on the backs to our links. So, if

906
00:33:57,440 --> 00:33:59,440
you want to take a look at any available

907
00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:01,360
animal, you can.

908
00:34:01,360 --> 00:34:03,039
>> Sneaky, sneaky. Thank you.

909
00:34:03,039 --> 00:34:04,960
>> Thank you. And if it's okay, we'll just

910
00:34:04,960 --> 00:34:05,679
head out.

911
00:34:05,679 --> 00:34:06,720
>> Sure. Yes, of course.

912
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:07,760
>> Thank you. Let me know if you need

913
00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:09,119
anything, Michelle. Thank you for that

914
00:34:09,119 --> 00:34:13,270
presentation.

915
00:34:13,280 --> 00:34:16,000
» Um, item 5.2, our Farmington fire

916
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:17,040
report.

917
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:18,480
>> Before you guys leave, can I share

918
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:20,639
something with you?

919
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:23,280
>> Yes. Once in a while we'll have animal

920
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:24,800
shelters, ask the fire department to

921
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:26,879
show up. We will happily show up and

922
00:34:26,879 --> 00:34:30,480
hold the animal

923
00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,389
put in a fire truck.

924
00:34:34,399 --> 00:34:37,280
» I love that. Okay, great. Thank you.

925
00:34:37,280 --> 00:34:39,919
>> Thank you.

926
00:34:39,919 --> 00:34:42,079
>> Right. Welcome, Chief Willis. Well, good

927
00:34:42,079 --> 00:34:42,800
looking.

928
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,000
>> Good morning. Good evening.

929
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:45,520
>> Take it away.

930
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,200
>> We're going to do the second quarter

931
00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:50,079
data, the second quarter report. And um

932
00:34:50,079 --> 00:34:51,520
I just wanted to share at this point

933
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,440
I've been with Farmington now 14ish 14

934
00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:58,800
months and um things are going great.

935
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,880
Absolutely still love my uh love my

936
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,440
position and enjoying doing both. So a

937
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:04,800
couple of the slides are redundant if

938
00:35:04,800 --> 00:35:06,320
you've seen these before and then

939
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:07,680
obviously there's some new information

940
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:10,320
but same uh same staffing model. We

941
00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,000
still have a maximum of eight people.

942
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:14,160
Typically we're at eight every day. We

943
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:16,079
can staff three units with that. What's

944
00:35:16,079 --> 00:35:17,680
important is we can staff an engine

945
00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:20,320
suppression unit, a medic unit, and an

946
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,000
ambulance. And we work really hard to be

947
00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,280
able to do that. Go ahead. Um service

948
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,440
delivery. I always do this as well. It's

949
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:29,280
important to know exactly where we're

950
00:35:29,280 --> 00:35:31,280
responding to. And as the as the

951
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:32,800
community changes, for example, there's

952
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:34,880
a ton of construction on all of the

953
00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,440
highways. It changes how we respond. So

954
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:38,960
there is times where we have to make

955
00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:41,440
agreements with other cities. We'll go

956
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,920
north, they'll go south, etc. so that we

957
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:47,040
can get to each situation sooner. That's

958
00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:48,560
typically when it happens on an

959
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:51,359
interstate. And right now 89 is great.

960
00:35:51,359 --> 00:35:54,240
I-15 is terrible. Legacy is terrible.

961
00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:57,520
So, so far so good. So, emergency calls

962
00:35:57,520 --> 00:36:00,800
second quarter. Go ahead. I love to do

963
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,440
time of day and I love to do days of the

964
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,920
week. I looked back at time of day and

965
00:36:05,920 --> 00:36:07,520
day of the week for the first quarter.

966
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:09,839
What was interesting is Thursdays and

967
00:36:09,839 --> 00:36:12,079
Sundays were tied for the most frequent

968
00:36:12,079 --> 00:36:15,119
calls and then this quarter Sunday

969
00:36:15,119 --> 00:36:17,040
trumps everybody which is really unusual

970
00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,200
that we're getting that many calls on a

971
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:21,680
Sunday. Time of day is exactly the same.

972
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:23,920
We're looking at noon, 2 p.m. and then

973
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,560
of course 4,5 and 6 p.m. That stayed

974
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:28,640
pretty consistent.

975
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:31,359
Medical calls, we had 34 in this quarter

976
00:36:31,359 --> 00:36:33,200
very similar amongst what we're

977
00:36:33,200 --> 00:36:35,359
responding to. cardiac issues, cardiac

978
00:36:35,359 --> 00:36:38,640
arrest, falls, canceled in routes, very

979
00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:42,079
consistent. And then fires, we have this

980
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:44,000
is the graph looks a little more

981
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:48,320
impressive than what it actually is. The two graphs that are highest is fire

982
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,920
alarm and canceled and route. Those are

983
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:51,920
two instances and then the rest are one.

984
00:36:51,920 --> 00:36:53,599
So, it's pretty consistent across the

985
00:36:53,599 --> 00:36:56,480
board as to what we respond to.

986
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:58,079
Community risk reduction. This is

987
00:36:58,079 --> 00:37:00,240
something that we try to really focus

988
00:37:00,240 --> 00:37:02,560
on. Um, we're looking at obviously new

989
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:04,560
construction, any any part of the

990
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,400
community that's being renovated, but

991
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:07,760
some of the things that we've just put

992
00:37:07,760 --> 00:37:10,320
into place is what we call hazard

993
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,000
assessments. We have looked at fruit

994
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:13,920
heights, we have looked at Farmington,

995
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:16,640
and where are vulnerable populations,

996
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:18,400
where are populations where we have

997
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:21,200
access, ingress or egress issues, where

998
00:37:21,200 --> 00:37:24,400
are uh commercial structures that have

999
00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,000
chemicals that we should be concerned

1000
00:37:26,000 --> 00:37:28,560
about. All of our crews are being wa are

1001
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:30,000
walking through these particular

1002
00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,000
facilities. So, we know if we go there,

1003
00:37:32,000 --> 00:37:33,200
these are the things we need to worry

1004
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:36,960
about. Just an example, um

1005
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,880
the the sports complex, the Western

1006
00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:41,040
sports complex, they can have 10,000

1007
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,480
people in there at the same time. If

1008
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,720
there's a fire, that's going to be a

1009
00:37:44,720 --> 00:37:46,800
huge issue. So, we've walked through,

1010
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,240
we've trained with their staff. We

1011
00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:49,599
actually know how to isolate their

1012
00:37:49,599 --> 00:37:51,200
building. So, if we have to protect half

1013
00:37:51,200 --> 00:37:53,520
of it and we have to allow half of it to

1014
00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,680
burn, we can do that. We've done it with

1015
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,599
Cherry Hill. We've done it with Lagoon.

1016
00:37:57,599 --> 00:37:59,599
We continue to do this and that's

1017
00:37:59,599 --> 00:38:01,920
something we do. We've made a goal of

1018
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,800
doing so many per year and that requires

1019
00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:06,720
our crew to do so many per month. And

1020
00:38:06,720 --> 00:38:08,160
that's something we'll just constantly

1021
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,599
evaluate. Okay. So, obviously that's

1022
00:38:11,599 --> 00:38:13,119
what I was just sharing with you. We've

1023
00:38:13,119 --> 00:38:14,960
done Lagoon already. We're about to do

1024
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:16,720
Lagoon again. They're going to do Fright

1025
00:38:16,720 --> 00:38:18,480
Nights. So they change their

1026
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,880
infrastructure and there's what they use

1027
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,400
if you if you haven't been there in a

1028
00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,560
while. They take pavilions that are open

1029
00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:26,640
right now and they turn them into their

1030
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:28,720
haunted houses and there's five or six

1031
00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:30,320
which means now these are confined

1032
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:32,240
spaces that don't have a lot of light.

1033
00:38:32,240 --> 00:38:33,920
There's one way in, there's one way out.

1034
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:35,680
These are things that we work really

1035
00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:37,359
hard with to make sure it's safe for the

1036
00:38:37,359 --> 00:38:40,640
citizens. Okay, so WOOI. Yeah, that's my

1037
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,720
four-letter word right now. Um you can

1038
00:38:42,720 --> 00:38:46,720
go to the next slide. Um, so the great

1039
00:38:46,720 --> 00:38:48,960
part about this is we have some

1040
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,960
resources. Farmington is fortunate that

1041
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,119
we have two large brush trucks. We have

1042
00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:55,359
a rover that goes up in the canyon. We

1043
00:38:55,359 --> 00:38:57,760
have a water tender. We have used every

1044
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,000
one of these in the past three weeks

1045
00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:03,200
consistently. Um, the water tender. We

1046
00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:05,280
happen to have the only water tender in

1047
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:07,119
Davis County that was functional for

1048
00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:09,440
over a month. So that was made available

1049
00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,000
to all of Davis County. And then we have

1050
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:13,520
people in the city that are trained to

1051
00:39:13,520 --> 00:39:16,240
drive that. We have two brush trucks.

1052
00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:19,040
One brush truck um was in north north

1053
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:21,520
Ogden. They had a a serious brush fire.

1054
00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,440
We went we had one here. We had one

1055
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,440
there. The next week we were in

1056
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,119
Washington Terrace. They had a huge

1057
00:39:27,119 --> 00:39:29,359
brush fire where that gentleman passed.

1058
00:39:29,359 --> 00:39:32,160
And then last week we went to Henford

1059
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:34,400
twice and we did it two o'clock in the

1060
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,400
afternoon to 6:00 a.m. in the morning.

1061
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:38,960
So we kept one here and we allowed one

1062
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,520
to deploy. And when we deploy units,

1063
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,760
we're backfilling. So our staffing

1064
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,599
doesn't change. The way we respond to

1065
00:39:45,599 --> 00:39:48,400
calls does not change when this happens.

1066
00:39:48,400 --> 00:39:50,480
The great part about this is because we

1067
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:54,560
have partnerships with forestry uh

1068
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,560
forestry state lands, they actually

1069
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,119
reimburse us for whatever backfill we

1070
00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:00,800
have to provide. So it's a great

1071
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,480
partnership.

1072
00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:05,440
Yeah. So brush fires July 3rd and I

1073
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:06,800
realize this is out of the second

1074
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:08,400
quarter, but it's so relevant. And I

1075
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:09,839
wanted to talk about we had the brush

1076
00:40:09,839 --> 00:40:12,160
fire in Wilder's Park that bordered

1077
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,560
Fruit Heights. We were really concerned.

1078
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:16,400
It went really well and they were able

1079
00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:19,200
to stop that. We were in Davis County in

1080
00:40:19,200 --> 00:40:20,640
North Ogden. We were in Washington

1081
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:22,160
Terrace and then we've been in Henford

1082
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:23,760
twice.

1083
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,400
So the interesting part is some of those

1084
00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:29,040
fires were caused by fireworks. The

1085
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:31,280
governor did something unusual this year

1086
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,480
where he allowed FFSO to create an

1087
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:37,440
executive order that states each city

1088
00:40:37,440 --> 00:40:39,200
had the right to decide, are you going

1089
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:41,200
to ban fireworks? Are you going to allow

1090
00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:42,800
fireworks? What is that going to look

1091
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:45,839
like? So, city manager and I spoke about

1092
00:40:45,839 --> 00:40:49,040
this. The important part for me was what

1093
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,040
can we protect and what are we worried

1094
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,760
about? So, my city allowed me to make a

1095
00:40:53,760 --> 00:40:55,359
decision and your city allowed me to

1096
00:40:55,359 --> 00:40:57,440
make the same decision. Do we have a

1097
00:40:57,440 --> 00:40:59,359
location that's safe to discharge

1098
00:40:59,359 --> 00:41:01,680
fireworks that we can man and we can

1099
00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,839
protect the surrounding area? We didn't

1100
00:41:03,839 --> 00:41:05,680
feel like we had a comfortable spot in

1101
00:41:05,680 --> 00:41:08,240
Fruit Heights. We banned it. We had a

1102
00:41:08,240 --> 00:41:10,560
great spot in Farmington. We had a huge

1103
00:41:10,560 --> 00:41:12,640
park that when we discharged the

1104
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:14,800
fireworks, it went over the softball

1105
00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:16,560
fields. So, there was there was really

1106
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,640
nothing it could burn. So, that worked

1107
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:23,119
well for July 4th. we get to um then the

1108
00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:26,079
second part um of the year, Pioneer Day,

1109
00:41:26,079 --> 00:41:28,640
where the governor now says the cities

1110
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,079
can request to ban, but now you have to

1111
00:41:32,079 --> 00:41:35,599
apply to FFSL and say I want to ban and

1112
00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:37,520
this is why. And at that point, we

1113
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:39,359
thought we've had a little bit of rain.

1114
00:41:39,359 --> 00:41:41,040
We have a really good idea of what we're

1115
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,359
going to do. We had fireworks patrols.

1116
00:41:43,359 --> 00:41:46,400
We had people for 4 days prior to and

1117
00:41:46,400 --> 00:41:49,119
after traveling all over to make sure we

1118
00:41:49,119 --> 00:41:50,960
were on top of it. So, we allowed it the

1119
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:52,960
second the second holiday and it worked

1120
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:54,720
really well. We didn't have any issues

1121
00:41:54,720 --> 00:41:58,880
in either city. Go on. Other cities did.

1122
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,960
So, Wilderness Park obviously that was

1123
00:42:00,960 --> 00:42:03,119
set by some individuals. They were young

1124
00:42:03,119 --> 00:42:05,440
adults that were um having fun with

1125
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,440
fireworks and the fireworks got away

1126
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,520
from them. They bailed. They didn't

1127
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:11,280
stay. They knew there was a fire, but

1128
00:42:11,280 --> 00:42:13,839
other people did stay. were able to take

1129
00:42:13,839 --> 00:42:16,240
video. They were able to actually locate

1130
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:19,280
the individuals that did this. Uh Costa

1131
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:20,880
was a group of individuals that were

1132
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:24,640
discharging illegal fireworks and that

1133
00:42:24,640 --> 00:42:26,000
burned that restaurant down.

1134
00:42:26,000 --> 00:42:27,040
>> Is it illegal?

1135
00:42:27,040 --> 00:42:29,119
>> Illegal fireworks in that case.

1136
00:42:29,119 --> 00:42:31,920
>> Yep. So, Leighton had a wonderful um

1137
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:33,839
they had areas in their city where you

1138
00:42:33,839 --> 00:42:35,680
could do in multiple locations you could

1139
00:42:35,680 --> 00:42:37,520
discharge fireworks. However, the

1140
00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:39,359
individuals that did this were using

1141
00:42:39,359 --> 00:42:40,880
fireworks that are not legal in this

1142
00:42:40,880 --> 00:42:44,000
state. So unfortunate.

1143
00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:46,319
>> Okay. So on some more fun stuff, we did

1144
00:42:46,319 --> 00:42:48,400
community engagement which was great. We

1145
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,240
love doing community engagement. We came

1146
00:42:50,240 --> 00:42:51,760
here for founders day which is a

1147
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,920
wonderful event and then we went on to

1148
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:56,240
festivals day. Um a couple of other

1149
00:42:56,240 --> 00:42:58,000
things that we're doing going forward I

1150
00:42:58,000 --> 00:42:59,839
realize isn't part of the second quarter

1151
00:42:59,839 --> 00:43:03,520
but um 911 ceremonies. This is the 25th

1152
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,680
anniversary unfortunately of 911. So

1153
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,280
there'll be lots of ceremonies that will

1154
00:43:07,280 --> 00:43:09,760
be coming up in the near future.

1155
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:11,440
So the last thing I want to share is

1156
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,200
what is the focus? What are our goals

1157
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,040
for the second quarter? This will go on

1158
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:17,200
to the third quarter. And I say this

1159
00:43:17,200 --> 00:43:19,040
every time. I like to focus on

1160
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:20,880
efficiencies and effectiveness. And this

1161
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:22,800
isn't something that we look at once.

1162
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:25,040
Are we continually effective? Are we

1163
00:43:25,040 --> 00:43:27,280
continually efficient? And if we're not,

1164
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,839
what do we need to tweak? So some of the

1165
00:43:29,839 --> 00:43:32,160
things that we look at um you can scroll

1166
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:35,599
to the next. In the second quarter, we

1167
00:43:35,599 --> 00:43:38,640
actually were inspected by ISO,

1168
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:41,440
insurance services office. What this

1169
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:48,480
does, it's a it's a a United Stateswide inspection of

1170
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:51,200
fire departments. We can tell them no,

1171
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:53,599
but if we tell them no, they change our

1172
00:43:53,599 --> 00:43:56,720
ISO rating to a 10. This affects your

1173
00:43:56,720 --> 00:43:58,400
insurance, whether it's your homeowner's

1174
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:00,319
insurance, your commercial insurance.

1175
00:44:00,319 --> 00:44:03,440
One is the best, 10 is the worst. Today

1176
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:05,680
we're a three and in the canyon we're a

1177
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:07,839
3x. And these are the criteria that get

1178
00:44:07,839 --> 00:44:10,560
evaluated. Uh fire protection. How

1179
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:12,160
quickly can we get to the scene of a

1180
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,040
fire? Get 17 firefighters on that scene.

1181
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,800
How many engines do we have? How much

1182
00:44:16,800 --> 00:44:19,119
water do we have? What is our water

1183
00:44:19,119 --> 00:44:21,359
distribution system? Fruit Heights has

1184
00:44:21,359 --> 00:44:23,680
an amazing water distribution system and

1185
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,760
the inspector was extremely impressed

1186
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,440
with what you do and how you maintain

1187
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,160
it. How quickly does dispatch get to

1188
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,480
look and dispatch a call? what is our

1189
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:34,240
training like and what is our community

1190
00:44:34,240 --> 00:44:36,160
risk reduction. So that's why we're

1191
00:44:36,160 --> 00:44:38,000
doing these hazard assessments. This all

1192
00:44:38,000 --> 00:44:40,640
boosts our score. We don't know our

1193
00:44:40,640 --> 00:44:43,599
score yet. It takes 60 to 90 days and at

1194
00:44:43,599 --> 00:44:46,240
this point we're close to 60 days in. So

1195
00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:48,319
we should be getting a score soon. That

1196
00:44:48,319 --> 00:44:50,560
will be made public to to the mayor to

1197
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:52,400
the city manager of both cities and then

1198
00:44:52,400 --> 00:44:54,319
you can of course share that with

1199
00:44:54,319 --> 00:44:55,520
>> with your occupants.

1200
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:57,839
>> Do they delineate between Farmington and

1201
00:44:57,839 --> 00:44:59,280
Fights or is it together?

1202
00:44:59,280 --> 00:45:01,599
>> They could they could. I doubt they

1203
00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:03,200
will, but what they will delineate is

1204
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:06,960
the canyon versus the city because the the response up there is very

1205
00:45:06,960 --> 00:45:08,400
different. The water distribution system

1206
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,240
is different up there.

1207
00:45:10,240 --> 00:45:10,640
>> Okay.

1208
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,720
Some of the other things that

1209
00:45:12,720 --> 00:45:15,359
we've managed is um I talked last time

1210
00:45:15,359 --> 00:45:18,400
about how we had to get we had to

1211
00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:20,640
reapply for our medical license to be

1212
00:45:20,640 --> 00:45:23,280
able to service these communities. Every

1213
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,839
June we have to reapply with the state

1214
00:45:25,839 --> 00:45:27,920
once a year to be able to have our

1215
00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,400
vehicles licensed. So that requires an

1216
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:32,720
inspection. It requires a fee. We have

1217
00:45:32,720 --> 00:45:35,040
to maintain a state inventory of

1218
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,520
equipment and medications and we have to

1219
00:45:37,520 --> 00:45:39,520
be able to prove that we can do that. So

1220
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:42,640
we did this in June. We passed. Um

1221
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:44,319
thankfully we passed or we wouldn't be

1222
00:45:44,319 --> 00:45:46,800
providing service. Um but the important

1223
00:45:46,800 --> 00:45:50,480
part about this is if uh 2025 and in

1224
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:53,119
2026 some of the state laws changed as

1225
00:45:53,119 --> 00:45:55,760
to what we can bill for with regard to

1226
00:45:55,760 --> 00:45:58,000
ambulance service. It used to be that

1227
00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,920
the state law allowed we send an

1228
00:45:59,920 --> 00:46:02,079
ambulance, we transport a patient, we

1229
00:46:02,079 --> 00:46:04,240
bill for the use of the ambulance, we

1230
00:46:04,240 --> 00:46:06,400
bill for the equipment, and we bill for

1231
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:08,800
the medication. That has been taken away

1232
00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,960
from everybody in the state. We can now

1233
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,599
bill for the transport. So, as we look

1234
00:46:13,599 --> 00:46:16,079
at our medical inventory and our medical

1235
00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:18,720
equipment, we still have to comply with

1236
00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:21,119
what the state requires, but we can no

1237
00:46:21,119 --> 00:46:23,520
longer bill for it. So, one of the

1238
00:46:23,520 --> 00:46:24,960
things that we have done is we've

1239
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,720
created an inventory and now I have a um

1240
00:46:28,720 --> 00:46:30,800
an inventory system that gets managed

1241
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:32,800
once a month. We want to make sure that

1242
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,520
if we're buying medical supplies,

1243
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:38,000
medication for example, that we use them

1244
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:40,720
before they expire. And there's there's

1245
00:46:40,720 --> 00:46:42,400
some things you cannot avoid. But one of

1246
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:44,720
the other things we'd like to do is if

1247
00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:47,359
we have medication that's expired, we'd

1248
00:46:47,359 --> 00:46:49,440
like to partner with our local vets to

1249
00:46:49,440 --> 00:46:52,240
say they can use expired medication, we

1250
00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:53,040
cannot.

1251
00:46:53,040 --> 00:46:54,319
>> And I think it would be a great

1252
00:46:54,319 --> 00:46:57,119
partnership of at least if we're if we

1253
00:46:57,119 --> 00:46:59,440
can't use it for our citizens, we can

1254
00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:02,160
use it for our our animal families. So

1255
00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:06,160
that's something we'll be doing. Okay.

1256
00:47:06,160 --> 00:47:08,400
Uh big focus for us obviously is

1257
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:10,640
continued training and development. We

1258
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,319
have a certain amount of EMS hours that

1259
00:47:12,319 --> 00:47:14,560
we have to do every two years. We track

1260
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,200
that regularly. We do fire training as

1261
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,200
well. That is some of the things that

1262
00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:20,800
ISO

1263
00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:24,400
tracks. We have to do 290 hours of fire

1264
00:47:24,400 --> 00:47:26,480
training which requires us to do two

1265
00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:28,560
hours a day. It's impossible. We can't

1266
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,200
reach it. We we get really close. On top

1267
00:47:31,200 --> 00:47:32,800
of that, there's officer training,

1268
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:35,680
driver training, hazmat training, and

1269
00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,760
then leadership training. So all these

1270
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:39,520
things are tracked and then they're

1271
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:42,720
turned over to this is I ISO inspector.

1272
00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:44,400
And then one of the things we're also

1273
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,359
required to do is several functional

1274
00:47:47,359 --> 00:47:49,599
fitness tests. And one of the things we

1275
00:47:49,599 --> 00:47:51,280
have to do because we have a canyon and

1276
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:53,680
we have a wildland urban interface area

1277
00:47:53,680 --> 00:47:56,079
is we have to be wildland firefighter

1278
00:47:56,079 --> 00:48:00,560
certified which requires us to wear a 35

1279
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:02,640
45 pound vest. It's called a red card

1280
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,560
certification. we have to do a

1281
00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:06,240
three-mile lap in a certain amount of

1282
00:48:06,240 --> 00:48:09,119
time wearing this vest. So, what we've

1283
00:48:09,119 --> 00:48:11,599
tried to do is create three quarterly

1284
00:48:11,599 --> 00:48:15,200
fitness tests that are functional um but

1285
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:19,839
yet fun. So, one one we just did was um

1286
00:48:19,839 --> 00:48:22,000
it's hot in July. We did it in the end

1287
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,520
of July, end of June, beginning of July,

1288
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:25,359
and we used our rec center. You had to

1289
00:48:25,359 --> 00:48:27,760
do two and a half miles. It was 20 laps.

1290
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:29,280
Every lap that you did, you did

1291
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,520
push-ups, squats, and you went up and

1292
00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,079
down a set of stairs. You did that 20

1293
00:48:34,079 --> 00:48:34,880
times. Wow.

1294
00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:37,040
>> We had a max. You couldn't You had to do

1295
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:39,599
it in under 60 minutes. So 59 minutes or

1296
00:48:39,599 --> 00:48:42,800
less. And the person that finished first

1297
00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:45,040
got an award and it was a blast. That's

1298
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,880
something that we do every quarter.

1299
00:48:48,880 --> 00:48:50,400
>> Give us the name of who finished first

1300
00:48:50,400 --> 00:48:52,000
so we can applaud them. You know,

1301
00:48:52,000 --> 00:48:53,920
>> it was great. What's fun is he's young

1302
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:55,839
so of course he finished first, right?

1303
00:48:55,839 --> 00:48:58,240
But the the competitiveness of of the

1304
00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:00,160
firefighters or who finished second, who

1305
00:49:00,160 --> 00:49:02,160
finished third, I finished fourth, which

1306
00:49:02,160 --> 00:49:04,319
I loved because

1307
00:49:04,319 --> 00:49:07,200
>> that deserves a little ways. They are.

1308
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:08,400
>> So anyway, it was fun.

1309
00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:10,079
>> Chief's right upward.

1310
00:49:10,079 --> 00:49:11,440
>> Well, then

1311
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,000
>> and then the last slide is um I wanted

1312
00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:15,520
to just give you a quick update on our

1313
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:16,960
budget. Obviously, we've all just

1314
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,359
started a new budget. I love July. I get

1315
00:49:19,359 --> 00:49:21,760
to buy stuff. Um some of the big things

1316
00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:23,520
that we've ordered, we have a new medic

1317
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:26,720
vehicle that's on order. It's a F-150

1318
00:49:26,720 --> 00:49:29,680
that has a a topper on the back and our

1319
00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:33,040
medic vehicle is got 122,000 miles. And

1320
00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:34,880
what we find is as frequently as we're

1321
00:49:34,880 --> 00:49:36,960
using an ambulance in a medic vehicle,

1322
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:38,720
we've got to turn them over about every

1323
00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:40,480
5 years or all we're doing is

1324
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:42,480
maintaining them and we end up spending

1325
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:44,319
more money than not. The interesting

1326
00:49:44,319 --> 00:49:46,319
part about this is I thought that

1327
00:49:46,319 --> 00:49:48,800
vehicle was going to be outrageously

1328
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,520
expensive. An ambulance today is about

1329
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:53,599
$350,000.

1330
00:49:53,599 --> 00:49:57,760
The medic vehicle was 111 custommade. I

1331
00:49:57,760 --> 00:50:00,480
was floored. The F-150 is the F-150, but

1332
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:03,440
we customed everything up. $111,000.

1333
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:06,000
The Rover I thought was going to be

1334
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,119
about $30,000. It's at 60 and I'm not

1335
00:50:09,119 --> 00:50:12,319
done. It's in I had I don't have UTVs. I

1336
00:50:12,319 --> 00:50:15,119
had no idea how much Rovers were. But we

1337
00:50:15,119 --> 00:50:19,119
had budgeted um overall about 160,000.

1338
00:50:19,119 --> 00:50:21,359
So together I can actually get both of

1339
00:50:21,359 --> 00:50:23,520
these vehicles. I'm so grateful that the

1340
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,599
medic vehicle was as cost-effective as

1341
00:50:25,599 --> 00:50:28,480
it was. The rover will allow us to be

1342
00:50:28,480 --> 00:50:30,240
able to take a person from the top of

1343
00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:32,720
the mountain down on the back of a

1344
00:50:32,720 --> 00:50:35,119
stretcher and they're safe. Um where

1345
00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:39,040
today our rover is it's old. It it

1346
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:41,200
depending on the weight it struggles.

1347
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:43,599
It's just no longer safe. So that's on

1348
00:50:43,599 --> 00:50:44,800
order as well.

1349
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:47,520
>> And then another interesting statistic,

1350
00:50:47,520 --> 00:50:50,079
fire hose, fire equipment has a life

1351
00:50:50,079 --> 00:50:53,440
expectancy. fire hose life expectancy is

1352
00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:55,599
10 years. I have hose that's 30 years

1353
00:50:55,599 --> 00:50:57,599
old. We have hose older than people that

1354
00:50:57,599 --> 00:51:00,720
work there. So, we were able to get um

1355
00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:03,599
the city allowed me to purchase there's

1356
00:51:03,599 --> 00:51:05,280
four different types of hose that we

1357
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:09,040
purchase one size. We use it frequently.

1358
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:11,280
That was $20,000 and I was able to

1359
00:51:11,280 --> 00:51:13,200
purchase that. So, each year for the

1360
00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:15,359
next three years, we'll purchase a

1361
00:51:15,359 --> 00:51:16,880
different size hose and then all of our

1362
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:18,880
hose will be in compliance and that's

1363
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,480
really important to us. And then

1364
00:51:20,480 --> 00:51:23,440
finally, the last uh information is the

1365
00:51:23,440 --> 00:51:25,680
station build. If you haven't driven by

1366
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,520
there, the fire station now, the the

1367
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,599
second floor is going up. The the metal

1368
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:31,839
shell is coming together. It actually

1369
00:51:31,839 --> 00:51:33,599
looks like a building. So, I'm pretty

1370
00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:35,920
excited about that. And we're still on

1371
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,520
task for March or April of next year.

1372
00:51:39,520 --> 00:51:40,880
>> Remind everybody where that is. They

1373
00:51:40,880 --> 00:51:42,079
want to drive by.

1374
00:51:42,079 --> 00:51:42,559
>> I'm sorry.

1375
00:51:42,559 --> 00:51:44,240
>> We'll remind everyone where that is.

1376
00:51:44,240 --> 00:51:46,640
>> It's Innovator Drive in Maker Way. So,

1377
00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:48,880
the new park that Farmington just put um

1378
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:50,559
that just opened probably a couple

1379
00:51:50,559 --> 00:51:52,480
months ago, a year ago. It's right

1380
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,559
across the street from there.

1381
00:51:54,559 --> 00:51:57,760
>> And that's it. Any questions for me?

1382
00:51:57,760 --> 00:52:01,430
Council

1383
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:02,880
» I love your report. Thank you.

1384
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:04,079
>> Thank you. Great presentation. Thank

1385
00:52:04,079 --> 00:52:08,000
you, Chief. Appreciate having you.

1386
00:52:08,000 --> 00:52:11,040
>> Okay. Wonderful. Um

1387
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,119
moving to number six is we're into

1388
00:52:13,119 --> 00:52:16,480
discussion items. Okay. 6.1

1389
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:18,800
uh is there any discussion on appoint on

1390
00:52:18,800 --> 00:52:19,920
the appointment for planning

1391
00:52:19,920 --> 00:52:24,319
commissioner? I have um for the

1392
00:52:24,319 --> 00:52:26,319
information of the public, I've shared

1393
00:52:26,319 --> 00:52:29,440
all this with council already, but

1394
00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:32,160
uh we did receive several um

1395
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,559
applications for

1396
00:52:34,559 --> 00:52:36,480
uh this is for district 4 in our

1397
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:39,760
planning commission. And um when we'd

1398
00:52:39,760 --> 00:52:44,640
received several of them, we um

1399
00:52:44,640 --> 00:52:46,559
began to schedule interviews and sitting

1400
00:52:46,559 --> 00:52:48,480
down. Being that I myself live in

1401
00:52:48,480 --> 00:52:52,079
district 4, I wanted to um you know

1402
00:52:52,079 --> 00:52:55,599
avoid any sort of perception of me alone

1403
00:52:55,599 --> 00:52:58,559
making a decision and being biased or

1404
00:52:58,559 --> 00:53:00,720
something. So I invited a member of the

1405
00:53:00,720 --> 00:53:02,559
planning commission as well as member of

1406
00:53:02,559 --> 00:53:05,920
staff to interview with me and we had um

1407
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:07,680
a great experience. We have wonderful

1408
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:09,280
people in our community and very

1409
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:11,760
talented, very capable people. Um and

1410
00:53:11,760 --> 00:53:14,800
from that um a consensus amongst all of

1411
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,680
us when we compared notes was um Ken

1412
00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:19,280
Bagley is his name. He's with us

1413
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:22,240
tonight. Ken, thanks for being here. Um

1414
00:53:22,240 --> 00:53:24,480
he's wonderful applicant, very talented

1415
00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:27,520
guy, smart, and brings a lot of good

1416
00:53:27,520 --> 00:53:30,559
assets to this um um and skills to this

1417
00:53:30,559 --> 00:53:33,200
position. And so he is my recommendation

1418
00:53:33,200 --> 00:53:35,839
to the council. And I hope you will um

1419
00:53:35,839 --> 00:53:38,160
support and confirm his appointment. Is

1420
00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:39,839
there any discussion or question that

1421
00:53:39,839 --> 00:53:43,520
the council would like to um ask me

1422
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:50,870
about that at this point?

1423
00:53:50,880 --> 00:53:53,440
» The one comment I have is that uh I I

1424
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:54,720
did have a chance to look at his, you

1425
00:53:54,720 --> 00:53:56,319
know, your LinkedIn profile. It looks

1426
00:53:56,319 --> 00:53:58,319
like you a lot of good professional

1427
00:53:58,319 --> 00:54:02,000
experience and uh I don't have any

1428
00:54:02,000 --> 00:54:04,640
anything concerns or questions beyond

1429
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:05,520
that. So,

1430
00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:07,280
>> okay.

1431
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:10,480
Thank you very much. Um,

1432
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:11,839
let's see. I I don't know if there's

1433
00:54:11,839 --> 00:54:17,280
anything else that I should mention. I I have all confidence in Ken and taking

1434
00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:20,800
on this. He's just um a good neighbor

1435
00:54:20,800 --> 00:54:22,160
who stepped forward and interested in

1436
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:24,960
serving um in the public. Um for anyone

1437
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:27,760
who is concerned, his background is um

1438
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,720
not in real estate or development of any

1439
00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:32,720
kind. He's in a business sector in a

1440
00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:35,119
completely different capacity. if that

1441
00:54:35,119 --> 00:54:37,359
is something that any one wondered

1442
00:54:37,359 --> 00:54:41,440
about. Um and um we're just really

1443
00:54:41,440 --> 00:54:43,119
impressed with him and glad to have him

1444
00:54:43,119 --> 00:54:44,880
step forward and I feel like he'll be a

1445
00:54:44,880 --> 00:54:46,559
very good fit. All of us felt that he'd

1446
00:54:46,559 --> 00:54:48,240
be a great fit on our commission and

1447
00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:50,960
work well um with our other commission

1448
00:54:50,960 --> 00:54:53,920
members. So um if that's if that's

1449
00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:55,119
everything, we can move to the next

1450
00:54:55,119 --> 00:54:55,680
item.

1451
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:57,920
>> Well, I just want to express gratitude

1452
00:54:57,920 --> 00:55:00,880
to all the applicants and thank you for

1453
00:55:00,880 --> 00:55:02,960
being willing to serve in our community.

1454
00:55:02,960 --> 00:55:04,319
>> Absolutely. We're just really grateful

1455
00:55:04,319 --> 00:55:07,280
for people that step up and care about

1456
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,680
their community. So appreciate it.

1457
00:55:09,680 --> 00:55:11,920
>> Absolutely. Yes. Thank you to you and to

1458
00:55:11,920 --> 00:55:13,760
the others who applied. I'll say

1459
00:55:13,760 --> 00:55:15,440
publicly to anyone who applies. We're

1460
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:18,960
grateful for that and encourage it. So

1461
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,359
um as far as a discuss we'll get to that

1462
00:55:21,359 --> 00:55:24,240
um action item.

1463
00:55:24,240 --> 00:55:26,240
Um

1464
00:55:26,240 --> 00:55:30,640
actually unless we could we could let Ken go if we can

1465
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:32,960
move the action item. We ready to Should

1466
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:34,160
we just go ahead and move the action

1467
00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:37,599
item here and quickly take care of that?

1468
00:55:37,599 --> 00:55:38,400
>> I don't have a problem.

1469
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:39,920
>> And then he's got a family he can go

1470
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,400
home and waiting with instead of waiting

1471
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,079
through all the rest of this.

1472
00:55:44,079 --> 00:55:47,040
>> Is council all right if we do that?

1473
00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,520
>> I'm okay with doing that personally, but

1474
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,760
um that's just I'm just one. Um

1475
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,839
>> and I'll just make David seems okay.

1476
00:55:55,839 --> 00:55:58,079
>> Typically I would I would like to know

1477
00:55:58,079 --> 00:55:59,200
just a little bit more about the

1478
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:01,440
candidates. I I had a chance to talk to

1479
00:56:01,440 --> 00:56:04,000
him before the meeting, just get to know

1480
00:56:04,000 --> 00:56:07,359
him a little bit. Um, and that was that

1481
00:56:07,359 --> 00:56:09,520
was nice. But

1482
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,520
it'd be nice to just be a little bit

1483
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:13,200
more informed on

1484
00:56:13,200 --> 00:56:17,520
>> sooner just so that just so that we can

1485
00:56:17,520 --> 00:56:23,040
consider the candidate that just just my

1486
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:27,200
um request I would say.

1487
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:31,440
>> Okay. Um that's noted. Um I will share

1488
00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:35,920
that I I I um admit admittedly I'm a new

1489
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,440
mayor, right? So this is my second

1490
00:56:37,440 --> 00:56:42,000
appointment and um I sort of took a

1491
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,240
poll, not a poll, but like kind of a

1492
00:56:44,240 --> 00:56:46,000
questionnaire of in other cities how

1493
00:56:46,000 --> 00:56:48,319
this how this goes. And just for

1494
00:56:48,319 --> 00:56:51,119
everyone's knowledge and information,

1495
00:56:51,119 --> 00:56:54,400
the process that we've used here is is

1496
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:58,559
um very much in line with um and and and

1497
00:56:58,559 --> 00:57:01,520
by some standards even more thorough and

1498
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:03,760
um ahead of time than than several other

1499
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,000
cities. That varies a little bit from

1500
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:10,880
city to city, but um generally um it is

1501
00:57:10,880 --> 00:57:12,319
and is written in our statutes as well

1502
00:57:12,319 --> 00:57:16,640
as the mayor's um job to

1503
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,319
um

1504
00:57:18,319 --> 00:57:21,920
appoint to to to gather the applications

1505
00:57:21,920 --> 00:57:24,000
to go through to interview and then to

1506
00:57:24,000 --> 00:57:27,920
make a selection and appoint. And um

1507
00:57:27,920 --> 00:57:31,200
variously in different cities councils

1508
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:35,520
ask no questions or very few or in some

1509
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:38,960
few cases receive um fuller information

1510
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:40,799
but that's it it varies a little bit.

1511
00:57:40,799 --> 00:57:43,359
It's not entirely standard because it's

1512
00:57:43,359 --> 00:57:46,400
it is again by statute it's the mayor's

1513
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:48,079
job to do the vetting not the council's

1514
00:57:48,079 --> 00:57:50,880
job to do the vetting but um having said

1515
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:53,760
that I have made an effort to share um

1516
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:55,359
information from the both from our

1517
00:57:55,359 --> 00:57:57,920
interview experience as well as reaching

1518
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,079
out to speak with each of you and answer

1519
00:58:00,079 --> 00:58:02,400
ask what questions you might have had um

1520
00:58:02,400 --> 00:58:04,720
and share what I um what I know about

1521
00:58:04,720 --> 00:58:07,119
this candidate. So I do feel I've made

1522
00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:09,839
that effort. Um Gary, we tried to

1523
00:58:09,839 --> 00:58:11,599
connect today. You were probably busy,

1524
00:58:11,599 --> 00:58:16,720
but we were I was trying to text you and and

1525
00:58:16,720 --> 00:58:18,240
um

1526
00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,160
you know, connect with that. That didn't

1527
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:21,680
succeed as well as it could have this

1528
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:24,640
time, but um I did feel that I made that

1529
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:28,160
effort. Um and appreciate your um

1530
00:58:28,160 --> 00:58:30,240
support. So, if we could go ahead, it

1531
00:58:30,240 --> 00:58:32,000
seems like I've got at least three nods

1532
00:58:32,000 --> 00:58:34,000
here to go ahead and do the vote and we

1533
00:58:34,000 --> 00:58:36,799
can um allow Ken to head back to his

1534
00:58:36,799 --> 00:58:40,400
family. But um is this remind me is this

1535
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:43,760
a roll call type of a vote? I'm not

1536
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,880
remembering this consent. This consent

1537
00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:51,359
vote. Okay. So um all in favor of

1538
00:58:51,359 --> 00:58:53,040
supporting the planning comm appointment

1539
00:58:53,040 --> 00:58:54,960
for planning commission. All right.

1540
00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,240
>> It's not by a motion,

1541
00:58:56,240 --> 00:58:56,720
>> right?

1542
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:59,040
>> Is it consent with consent?

1543
00:58:59,040 --> 00:59:02,079
>> Okay. Motion to appoint Callum Bagley as

1544
00:59:02,079 --> 00:59:04,000
a planning commission member.

1545
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,640
>> Do we need a a motion from council?

1546
00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,079
Yeah. Okay. Go ahead.

1547
00:59:08,079 --> 00:59:09,440
>> Did you get it?

1548
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:10,799
>> A second.

1549
00:59:10,799 --> 00:59:13,599
>> Okay. So, motion from uh Blake, a second

1550
00:59:13,599 --> 00:59:16,400
from David. Um all in favor of this

1551
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,079
motion, please say yes.

1552
00:59:18,079 --> 00:59:19,440
>> Yes.

1553
00:59:19,440 --> 00:59:21,839
>> Any opposed say no.

1554
00:59:21,839 --> 00:59:24,720
>> Okay. Thank you, council. That is um

1555
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:26,559
unanimous and I appreciate your support

1556
00:59:26,559 --> 00:59:29,040
and thank you Ken for for being here

1557
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:30,640
tonight and for stepping forward to

1558
00:59:30,640 --> 00:59:32,160
serve in our community. We appreciate

1559
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:41,829
you. Okay, great.

1560
00:59:41,839 --> 00:59:43,839
Um

1561
00:59:43,839 --> 00:59:48,079
going back to we'll go to 6.2.

1562
00:59:48,079 --> 00:59:52,079
Um the LRB cemetery financial proposal

1563
00:59:52,079 --> 00:59:55,040
as an item for discussion here. We did

1564
00:59:55,040 --> 01:00:00,960
have so cemetery has not been a um major

1565
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:02,960
um topic in our public meetings this

1566
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,920
year except for in our last meeting

1567
01:00:05,920 --> 01:00:09,359
where um Todd and he's here. Good. Hello

1568
01:00:09,359 --> 01:00:11,920
Todd. Um as our committee chair gave a

1569
01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:13,440
presentation

1570
01:00:13,440 --> 01:00:16,319
um just to fill in a little background

1571
01:00:16,319 --> 01:00:21,280
for members of the public. um

1572
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,720
when when I took office um and after the

1573
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:26,880
discussions and things that were said

1574
01:00:26,880 --> 01:00:29,280
and took place during the campaign and

1575
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:30,799
having talked to many many people out

1576
01:00:30,799 --> 01:00:34,319
there realizing this is a interesting

1577
01:00:34,319 --> 01:00:36,960
question there many for and many not for

1578
01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:39,200
um this issue but the cemetery committee

1579
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:41,280
had expressed they didn't feel that

1580
01:00:41,280 --> 01:00:43,839
they'd had enough support to do whatever

1581
01:00:43,839 --> 01:00:45,359
they needed to do to investigate a

1582
01:00:45,359 --> 01:00:48,079
cemetery possibility in recent times and

1583
01:00:48,079 --> 01:00:51,280
so I um

1584
01:00:51,280 --> 01:00:53,359
reached out as an olive branch and said,

1585
01:00:53,359 --> 01:00:55,040
"Hey, why don't I give you some support?

1586
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,520
I don't feel like we can investigate

1587
01:00:57,520 --> 01:00:59,280
continually forever, but if we take one

1588
01:00:59,280 --> 01:01:01,520
year in the whole year of 2026, is that

1589
01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:05,599
enough time to get answer not to not to

1590
01:01:05,599 --> 01:01:08,640
develop a cemetery, let me be clear, but

1591
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,400
to answer the question, is there a way

1592
01:01:10,400 --> 01:01:11,839
for Fruit Heights to have a cemetery

1593
01:01:11,839 --> 01:01:15,440
that doesn't require any tax impact?"

1594
01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:20,559
That was my ask of the cemetery. And um

1595
01:01:20,559 --> 01:01:23,280
they said I said by they I mean I spoke

1596
01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:25,520
with Todd and I also spoke with Eileen.

1597
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:27,200
Um she's having been involved in it.

1598
01:01:27,200 --> 01:01:29,200
They said yes, we think a year would be

1599
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:30,640
plenty of time. And so they have

1600
01:01:30,640 --> 01:01:32,079
assembled their committee and been

1601
01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:34,799
working on developing and talking about

1602
01:01:34,799 --> 01:01:37,680
how could that be done and not impact

1603
01:01:37,680 --> 01:01:39,599
our tax money. So that's kind of the

1604
01:01:39,599 --> 01:01:41,599
background of what the cemetery

1605
01:01:41,599 --> 01:01:44,400
committee has been busy trying to

1606
01:01:44,400 --> 01:01:47,599
investigate this year. Also um in

1607
01:01:47,599 --> 01:01:49,599
January with our strategic planning

1608
01:01:49,599 --> 01:01:51,760
meeting with council, I introduced that

1609
01:01:51,760 --> 01:01:54,079
idea uh told them of those discussions

1610
01:01:54,079 --> 01:01:55,839
and they were supportive of saying yes

1611
01:01:55,839 --> 01:01:57,920
in for this year we can support it and

1612
01:01:57,920 --> 01:02:00,559
we'll put some money in the budget to do

1613
01:02:00,559 --> 01:02:02,480
possible studies or whatever is needed

1614
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:05,599
to get good data, get an answer to that

1615
01:02:05,599 --> 01:02:08,000
question. And so that's where where that

1616
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:09,760
work has been that that's what's been

1617
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:11,839
happening. So in the in the budget that

1618
01:02:11,839 --> 01:02:13,440
we've now approved for this year, there

1619
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:16,880
is a line item for u some financial

1620
01:02:16,880 --> 01:02:20,559
support of doing a study um a cost study

1621
01:02:20,559 --> 01:02:24,079
or or some type of study um and it and

1622
01:02:24,079 --> 01:02:29,359
cost being you know a main topic when it comes to cemetery.

1623
01:02:29,359 --> 01:02:32,160
So, LRB, you see up on the screen, is a

1624
01:02:32,160 --> 01:02:33,839
company

1625
01:02:33,839 --> 01:02:38,799
um that and we um

1626
01:02:38,799 --> 01:02:41,359
made made efforts to look around and see

1627
01:02:41,359 --> 01:02:43,839
how many companies provide that kind of

1628
01:02:43,839 --> 01:02:46,880
a service. It turns out not many. So

1629
01:02:46,880 --> 01:02:48,799
this is this is one company that does do

1630
01:02:48,799 --> 01:02:50,640
these kinds of studies among other

1631
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:52,160
things in their services for

1632
01:02:52,160 --> 01:02:54,799
municipalities but um that has

1633
01:02:54,799 --> 01:02:58,000
experience um has some pretty extensive

1634
01:02:58,000 --> 01:02:59,760
experience in providing cemetery

1635
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:02,160
financial studies feasibility and

1636
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,240
sustainability. And so we obtained a

1637
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,680
proposal from them to um help us out

1638
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:10,240
with a you know comprehensive analysis

1639
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:15,280
of cost and um so that is that is the

1640
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,319
proposal that's there right now tonight.

1641
01:03:18,319 --> 01:03:21,599
Now in the meantime other things have

1642
01:03:21,599 --> 01:03:24,000
developed and there are other questions

1643
01:03:24,000 --> 01:03:28,160
on the board about as far as cemetery um

1644
01:03:28,160 --> 01:03:30,559
because it's not as simple as all that.

1645
01:03:30,559 --> 01:03:33,520
um in our city. We have um other

1646
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:37,599
questions to resolve and also um

1647
01:03:37,599 --> 01:03:40,160
as council is aware and as Todd

1648
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:43,440
presented in his uh remarks last week,

1649
01:03:43,440 --> 01:03:46,799
uh the committee is interested in in um

1650
01:03:46,799 --> 01:03:50,160
going out to find some information um

1651
01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:53,200
about or to uh request information from

1652
01:03:53,200 --> 01:03:55,119
private companies to see if that's a

1653
01:03:55,119 --> 01:04:01,359
possibility. So, um, that's kind of the

1654
01:04:01,359 --> 01:04:03,359
focus. It's I think I'm correct in

1655
01:04:03,359 --> 01:04:05,440
saying that right now, Todd. Correct me

1656
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:07,039
if I'm wrong. That's the focus of the

1657
01:04:07,039 --> 01:04:10,960
committee is to try to see if there's a

1658
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:12,640
um

1659
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:15,680
a private company option. We're saying

1660
01:04:15,680 --> 01:04:17,440
private public partnership, but I think

1661
01:04:17,440 --> 01:04:19,039
what we're talking about is a private

1662
01:04:19,039 --> 01:04:21,520
company that would be willing to

1663
01:04:21,520 --> 01:04:24,000
basically foot the whole cost for us if

1664
01:04:24,000 --> 01:04:25,760
they could use the land. So that's an

1665
01:04:25,760 --> 01:04:27,119
open question and that's a question no

1666
01:04:27,119 --> 01:04:29,680
one knows the answer to. So that's a

1667
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:31,200
question you're looking for an answer to

1668
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:35,200
and wanting to investigate. So it it um

1669
01:04:35,200 --> 01:04:37,119
may or may not be the right time to do

1670
01:04:37,119 --> 01:04:41,839
this proposal proposed study and um it

1671
01:04:41,839 --> 01:04:45,359
may be that in at another time um would

1672
01:04:45,359 --> 01:04:47,119
be the right time but council we can

1673
01:04:47,119 --> 01:04:48,480
discuss this now. I just want to give

1674
01:04:48,480 --> 01:04:50,400
some background for the public to so

1675
01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,640
they're not in confusion about what's

1676
01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:54,000
happening with the cemetery committee

1677
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:56,079
because you know we we all know that's

1678
01:04:56,079 --> 01:05:01,680
been a topic um off and on off and on for many years. So,

1679
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:03,359
um

1680
01:05:03,359 --> 01:05:05,920
this proposal before us here is a thing

1681
01:05:05,920 --> 01:05:11,440
that um would the scope of this proposal

1682
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:13,119
um

1683
01:05:13,119 --> 01:05:17,440
is looking at a city built and

1684
01:05:17,440 --> 01:05:19,680
maintained seminary cemetery that would

1685
01:05:19,680 --> 01:05:22,079
be self- sustaining.

1686
01:05:22,079 --> 01:05:25,440
Um, and in other words, like what at

1687
01:05:25,440 --> 01:05:28,079
what cost, at what price point for the

1688
01:05:28,079 --> 01:05:31,920
end user would you be able to build and

1689
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:34,240
pay for building and maintaining and

1690
01:05:34,240 --> 01:05:36,960
sustaining a cemetery um all the way

1691
01:05:36,960 --> 01:05:38,480
through for a long long time. That's

1692
01:05:38,480 --> 01:05:42,559
what this proposal proposes to evaluate.

1693
01:05:42,559 --> 01:05:44,960
Um, they can they can also evaluate

1694
01:05:44,960 --> 01:05:46,720
other cost models. Todd went through

1695
01:05:46,720 --> 01:05:49,520
several of them. I think if you have any

1696
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:50,880
questions on those, there are other cost

1697
01:05:50,880 --> 01:05:52,880
models. LRB is able to evaluate any of

1698
01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:54,720
those. It would just be a different

1699
01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:56,880
proposal, be a different scope than this

1700
01:05:56,880 --> 01:06:02,480
one before us tonight as all. So, um,

1701
01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:04,319
discussion on that. Eileen, maybe you

1702
01:06:04,319 --> 01:06:05,520
have some things being that you're the

1703
01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:07,039
cemetery committee leaison or anyone

1704
01:06:07,039 --> 01:06:09,440
else have some ideas or discussion on

1705
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:10,559
this

1706
01:06:10,559 --> 01:06:11,680
>> item tonight.

1707
01:06:11,680 --> 01:06:14,400
>> I think we need an answer to

1708
01:06:14,400 --> 01:06:16,000
are we going to be able to move the

1709
01:06:16,000 --> 01:06:17,680
trails

1710
01:06:17,680 --> 01:06:20,799
um to to

1711
01:06:20,799 --> 01:06:23,200
Did you talk to the

1712
01:06:23,200 --> 01:06:25,280
people that gave us the grant for the

1713
01:06:25,280 --> 01:06:27,119
bike trail?

1714
01:06:27,119 --> 01:06:29,520
>> So, it's depending on how many how much

1715
01:06:29,520 --> 01:06:32,000
of the trails. If it's, you know, just

1716
01:06:32,000 --> 01:06:34,079
down at the south corner, that's easy

1717
01:06:34,079 --> 01:06:36,960
enough. We can move those trails to be

1718
01:06:36,960 --> 01:06:40,240
around it. If it's the whole project,

1719
01:06:40,240 --> 01:06:42,160
then there's a lot more to it at that

1720
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:43,760
point.

1721
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:46,799
>> So, for five years, we're limited

1722
01:06:46,799 --> 01:06:51,119
with how much we can do.

1723
01:06:51,119 --> 01:06:51,440
because

1724
01:06:51,440 --> 01:06:53,680
>> well it it like I said it depends on if

1725
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:55,359
we're just doing a couple acres down at

1726
01:06:55,359 --> 01:06:57,839
the bottom, three acres, whatever the

1727
01:06:57,839 --> 01:07:00,720
trails that come into that, we can move

1728
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:02,240
those trails and still stay in

1729
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:06,079
compliance. Um the map that's in the

1730
01:07:06,079 --> 01:07:08,480
presentation and stuff like that shows

1731
01:07:08,480 --> 01:07:13,280
that whole area. That's where

1732
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:14,799
there's a lot of things we have to work

1733
01:07:14,799 --> 01:07:16,799
with. So, we need to get with Curtis

1734
01:07:16,799 --> 01:07:20,160
then and get a

1735
01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,319
new

1736
01:07:22,319 --> 01:07:26,079
map of where we might use in the next

1737
01:07:26,079 --> 01:07:27,920
five years.

1738
01:07:27,920 --> 01:07:30,319
Is that true?

1739
01:07:30,319 --> 01:07:32,400
>> Yeah.

1740
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:35,760
Yes. Yes. We we we need to show this is

1741
01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:38,640
what we'd be using. Um this is how we

1742
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:40,880
would reroute those those mountain bike

1743
01:07:40,880 --> 01:07:43,839
trails. Um the only map I have right now

1744
01:07:43,839 --> 01:07:45,839
shows the whole property as part of

1745
01:07:45,839 --> 01:07:48,079
that. Um

1746
01:07:48,079 --> 01:07:50,640
and so I don't know where that is. If

1747
01:07:50,640 --> 01:07:53,359
it's the whole property, yes, it it we

1748
01:07:53,359 --> 01:07:54,960
have a grant and we have an agreement

1749
01:07:54,960 --> 01:07:58,960
with the with that grant that um limits

1750
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,119
the possibilities.

1751
01:08:01,119 --> 01:08:03,200
>> Do we need to do something more along

1752
01:08:03,200 --> 01:08:05,039
the line of an RFP for this kind of

1753
01:08:05,039 --> 01:08:07,280
study? That's a significant amount of

1754
01:08:07,280 --> 01:08:10,240
money. Um

1755
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:12,559
it seems like

1756
01:08:12,559 --> 01:08:15,839
and maybe there is only one company but

1757
01:08:15,839 --> 01:08:18,640
we're we haven't done anything.

1758
01:08:18,640 --> 01:08:21,920
So I I will tell you um we did research

1759
01:08:21,920 --> 01:08:23,600
a lot and asked a lot of other

1760
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:27,359
communities and um we talked with Zans

1761
01:08:27,359 --> 01:08:28,799
Bank because that was one that

1762
01:08:28,799 --> 01:08:31,520
communities have used is Zans's Bank. Um

1763
01:08:31,520 --> 01:08:33,679
we actually talked with Zans's Bank um

1764
01:08:33,679 --> 01:08:36,480
just like we did with this company here.

1765
01:08:36,480 --> 01:08:39,359
Zans Bank um the communities that they

1766
01:08:39,359 --> 01:08:43,199
have done studies for um already have a

1767
01:08:43,199 --> 01:08:45,920
cemetery and so they're able to take the

1768
01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:48,000
information they already have the costs

1769
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:51,920
are already using and then help plan for

1770
01:08:51,920 --> 01:08:54,880
the future. Um this company was a little

1771
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:56,880
bit different. Um they've worked with

1772
01:08:56,880 --> 01:08:59,279
cities that don't have a cemetery that

1773
01:08:59,279 --> 01:09:02,000
want to either try to put in a cemetery,

1774
01:09:02,000 --> 01:09:06,799
a private or a partnership or however

1775
01:09:06,799 --> 01:09:09,359
and been able to go through and do a lot

1776
01:09:09,359 --> 01:09:12,239
of research not only in Utah but um

1777
01:09:12,239 --> 01:09:20,719
surrounding states and come up with a way to do that. Um

1778
01:09:20,719 --> 01:09:21,040
>> well

1779
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:23,520
>> yeah, this is one of this is one of

1780
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:24,640
those

1781
01:09:24,640 --> 01:09:29,440
>> that is a pretty limited um

1782
01:09:29,440 --> 01:09:32,400
company that can provide that kind of

1783
01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:34,319
service. Um

1784
01:09:34,319 --> 01:09:35,600
>> but we haven't put it out there for

1785
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:36,880
anybody else either to find out.

1786
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:39,990
>> No,

1787
01:09:40,000 --> 01:09:43,759
» we haven't. I it just is not a common

1788
01:09:43,759 --> 01:09:46,560
it's not a there's not a big wide

1789
01:09:46,560 --> 01:09:48,880
variety of companies that we know of

1790
01:09:48,880 --> 01:09:52,159
that do this. I mean having talked to

1791
01:09:52,159 --> 01:09:53,839
Zans is a big one that helps with

1792
01:09:53,839 --> 01:09:55,760
municipal finance like you said but but

1793
01:09:55,760 --> 01:09:58,800
even them they were like well we we do

1794
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:00,480
fee studies you know like you're saying

1795
01:10:00,480 --> 01:10:01,760
if you've already got it in place and

1796
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:03,120
you've got all the numbers information

1797
01:10:03,120 --> 01:10:05,760
for us we can calculate you know study

1798
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:07,280
if your fees are at the right level

1799
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:11,280
right now or whatever but not not as um

1800
01:10:11,280 --> 01:10:14,560
not as comprehensive or able to do as

1801
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:15,760
big a scope

1802
01:10:15,760 --> 01:10:20,159
>> as this. Um, so

1803
01:10:20,159 --> 01:10:22,320
in our ordinances, in a purchasing

1804
01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:27,280
ordinance, there is a, you know, there's a whole section on

1805
01:10:27,280 --> 01:10:38,400
types of um goods or services that are um not don't lend themselves to wide a variety of of competitive

1806
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:40,800
bidding that are like single source, you

1807
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:42,800
know, that are or or specialty types of

1808
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:44,960
services. And I think this is considered

1809
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:46,560
that

1810
01:10:46,560 --> 01:10:47,520
So,

1811
01:10:47,520 --> 01:10:48,480
>> so anyway, yeah,

1812
01:10:48,480 --> 01:10:50,080
>> my big my big burden.

1813
01:10:50,080 --> 01:10:51,600
>> So, it sounds like the question before

1814
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:53,440
us tonight is a little bit complicated

1815
01:10:53,440 --> 01:10:55,760
by the fact that we've got some

1816
01:10:55,760 --> 01:10:58,400
questions about the land itself, the can

1817
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:01,440
the grants that we have already on it.

1818
01:11:01,440 --> 01:11:04,000
Um, I also feel like the question is

1819
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:06,560
still out and I had an opportunity to

1820
01:11:06,560 --> 01:11:08,880
speak with Todd this past week. The

1821
01:11:08,880 --> 01:11:11,760
question is still out on what kind of

1822
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:15,199
project is being envisioned by cemetery

1823
01:11:15,199 --> 01:11:18,320
committee and whether or not we need to

1824
01:11:18,320 --> 01:11:19,760
get a little bit more information before

1825
01:11:19,760 --> 01:11:23,120
we move forward with this. Um Todd, I

1826
01:11:23,120 --> 01:11:27,040
appreciate your email you um provided to

1827
01:11:27,040 --> 01:11:28,800
council or you sent to council where you

1828
01:11:28,800 --> 01:11:30,000
said that this might be the right thing

1829
01:11:30,000 --> 01:11:31,360
to move forward with. It might not be

1830
01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:32,480
the right thing to move forward with,

1831
01:11:32,480 --> 01:11:34,320
but that you were hoping to get some

1832
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:38,320
more questions answered. Um and I agree

1833
01:11:38,320 --> 01:11:41,840
with that. I think that we have a few

1834
01:11:41,840 --> 01:11:46,640
questions that are out um that may

1835
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:50,080
significantly impact the

1836
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,960
feasibility study itself. It may be that

1837
01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:56,640
we do a feasibility study and we can't

1838
01:11:56,640 --> 01:11:58,560
move forward with the project for a

1839
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:00,400
number of years and by that time that

1840
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:04,320
feasibility study is not as realistic

1841
01:12:04,320 --> 01:12:06,000
with where the market's at. So, I've got

1842
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:10,159
some concerns personally with um moving

1843
01:12:10,159 --> 01:12:14,000
forward with this project right now. Um

1844
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:17,430
but

1845
01:12:17,440 --> 01:12:19,440
I don't know if it's appropriate to have

1846
01:12:19,440 --> 01:12:21,360
Todd speak with us a little bit. He's

1847
01:12:21,360 --> 01:12:23,280
the chair of our cemetery committee and

1848
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:25,600
Eileen also is our liaison for that

1849
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:27,280
committee. But do you have anything that

1850
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:30,880
you would like to say? Um is that

1851
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:34,640
appropriate? Are we able to do that?

1852
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:35,920
Todd, would you like to

1853
01:12:35,920 --> 01:12:37,840
>> I mean, if you if there's something that

1854
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:39,679
you want to add to this that we're not

1855
01:12:39,679 --> 01:12:42,800
considering or haven't mentioned, Todd,

1856
01:12:42,800 --> 01:12:45,600
>> I don't you don't have to. I mean, I

1857
01:12:45,600 --> 01:12:47,600
won't I won't expect us to call on you,

1858
01:12:47,600 --> 01:12:49,520
so it's okay.

1859
01:12:49,520 --> 01:12:50,000
>> Um,

1860
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:52,000
>> I have one one comment.

1861
01:12:52,000 --> 01:12:54,960
>> Would you mind Do you mind coming on for

1862
01:12:54,960 --> 01:12:56,480
that?

1863
01:12:56,480 --> 01:13:01,110
>> I appreciate it.

1864
01:13:01,120 --> 01:13:02,719
the

1865
01:13:02,719 --> 01:13:05,679
this is kind of a detail, but the

1866
01:13:05,679 --> 01:13:08,800
discussion about the

1867
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:12,880
um trails up there in the and I'm

1868
01:13:12,880 --> 01:13:14,320
assuming the map you're talking about is

1869
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:18,000
in the RFP that we've been working on.

1870
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:20,960
The RFP itself talks about the trails

1871
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:23,600
and that they have to what they propose

1872
01:13:23,600 --> 01:13:25,679
has to work around the trails that are

1873
01:13:25,679 --> 01:13:29,600
there. So, it's not ignoring the trails.

1874
01:13:29,600 --> 01:13:34,080
So, but we want to obviously it's a top

1875
01:13:34,080 --> 01:13:37,760
item and I would like maybe with some of

1876
01:13:37,760 --> 01:13:39,920
the committee members be able to meet

1877
01:13:39,920 --> 01:13:42,000
with the people that the agency and the

1878
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,320
stuff in the state government

1879
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:46,480
that that's providing, you know, that

1880
01:13:46,480 --> 01:13:48,880
does that because I I really have a hard

1881
01:13:48,880 --> 01:13:51,840
time believing that a the contract would

1882
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:55,600
be so ironclad that you if some if

1883
01:13:55,600 --> 01:13:57,440
they're doing a trail system somewhere

1884
01:13:57,440 --> 01:13:59,920
and some important thing came up that

1885
01:13:59,920 --> 01:14:02,320
they couldn't do something

1886
01:14:02,320 --> 01:14:06,800
to work around it. And so I wanna

1887
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:08,560
>> Well, I think Darren was alluding to

1888
01:14:08,560 --> 01:14:10,480
that. He said he felt like if there's a

1889
01:14:10,480 --> 01:14:13,360
small I mean a small impingement seems

1890
01:14:13,360 --> 01:14:15,360
easy to solve,

1891
01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,679
>> but what's represented in the in the

1892
01:14:17,679 --> 01:14:20,000
document that you're you're currently

1893
01:14:20,000 --> 01:14:21,840
working on to put out for information is

1894
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:23,679
the entire thing plus the rest of the

1895
01:14:23,679 --> 01:14:25,120
100 acres is highlighted.

1896
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:25,920
>> Yeah.

1897
01:14:25,920 --> 01:14:28,320
Do you have a sense of the the size of

1898
01:14:28,320 --> 01:14:31,600
that project or what you're anticipating

1899
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,320
long term in in your multiple phases?

1900
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:36,640
Again, I if the answer is that you

1901
01:14:36,640 --> 01:14:38,239
haven't anticipated that yet, I don't

1902
01:14:38,239 --> 01:14:39,199
want to

1903
01:14:39,199 --> 01:14:43,520
>> right. We can get um the way we have

1904
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:45,360
scoped it out about a thousand is a

1905
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:49,440
thousand plots per acre pretty much. And

1906
01:14:49,440 --> 01:14:52,239
if it and if it's cremains, you get

1907
01:14:52,239 --> 01:14:53,840
about

1908
01:14:53,840 --> 01:14:57,840
three boxes for crees in what would be

1909
01:14:57,840 --> 01:14:59,440
one grave.

1910
01:14:59,440 --> 01:15:01,520
>> So 3,000 per acre

1911
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:04,000
>> if it's if it's

1912
01:15:04,000 --> 01:15:04,640
>> so

1913
01:15:04,640 --> 01:15:07,280
>> or but but that would be in the ground

1914
01:15:07,280 --> 01:15:10,800
boxes because there's also other options

1915
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:17,120
like doing um a short wall on the um

1916
01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:19,120
side. And so there's there's some

1917
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:21,040
different options, but yeah, maybe

1918
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:24,320
around two 2,000

1919
01:15:24,320 --> 01:15:27,199
burials of creines and

1920
01:15:27,199 --> 01:15:29,440
>> okay, it's not quite

1921
01:15:29,440 --> 01:15:32,000
>> not quite three

1922
01:15:32,000 --> 01:15:32,560
>> if

1923
01:15:32,560 --> 01:15:35,120
>> strictly speaking, but it there could be

1924
01:15:35,120 --> 01:15:37,360
mixes and matches where you could get

1925
01:15:37,360 --> 01:15:38,159
mixes and matches

1926
01:15:38,159 --> 01:15:40,000
>> depending on the

1927
01:15:40,000 --> 01:15:41,920
>> Yes. the situation. And and the other

1928
01:15:41,920 --> 01:15:43,840
thing that we're, you know, they tell us

1929
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:45,840
is that more and more people are

1930
01:15:45,840 --> 01:15:49,679
choosing cremation. And so as years go

1931
01:15:49,679 --> 01:15:53,360
on, there may be more that wish to be

1932
01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,520
cremated than buried.

1933
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:58,960
>> And I have to I just I have to wonder

1934
01:15:58,960 --> 01:16:04,320
what if we were to have a crem type of

1935
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:06,640
place. I don't know.

1936
01:16:06,640 --> 01:16:08,080
>> There are a lot of people that still

1937
01:16:08,080 --> 01:16:09,199
want burials,

1938
01:16:09,199 --> 01:16:12,640
>> traditional burial. Um, so just think,

1939
01:16:12,640 --> 01:16:14,800
you know,

1940
01:16:14,800 --> 01:16:18,480
for for for services, let's just say ser

1941
01:16:18,480 --> 01:16:23,440
services of of deaths, they figure about

1942
01:16:23,440 --> 01:16:25,199
50

1943
01:16:25,199 --> 01:16:26,880
per

1944
01:16:26,880 --> 01:16:30,640
uh per 6,000

1945
01:16:30,640 --> 01:16:36,560
residents per year. So if you had

1946
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:41,600
500 plots that would be you know

1947
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,159
basically our city is about 6,000 you

1948
01:16:44,159 --> 01:16:45,679
know we have other people who have

1949
01:16:45,679 --> 01:16:47,440
already made arrangements outside of the

1950
01:16:47,440 --> 01:16:51,360
city so just you know projecting that

1951
01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:56,480
out based on our current um

1952
01:16:56,480 --> 01:16:59,199
>> that's right but in in the case of of

1953
01:16:59,199 --> 01:17:01,280
public private if a p private company

1954
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:03,360
were to come in they would not confining

1955
01:17:03,360 --> 01:17:05,040
it only to Fruit Heights residents.

1956
01:17:05,040 --> 01:17:05,600
That's correct.

1957
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:07,120
>> They're they're there for profit.

1958
01:17:07,120 --> 01:17:09,120
>> They and they will and they will take

1959
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:12,320
however much land we allocate. Whereas

1960
01:17:12,320 --> 01:17:15,199
if we do it within the city without that

1961
01:17:15,199 --> 01:17:17,760
public private partnership or without

1962
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:21,600
partnering with another city then then

1963
01:17:21,600 --> 01:17:23,920
we of course maintain

1964
01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:27,679
uh availability for a really long time.

1965
01:17:27,679 --> 01:17:28,400
>> Right.

1966
01:17:28,400 --> 01:17:29,920
>> So are we putting the cart before the

1967
01:17:29,920 --> 01:17:31,760
horse here though? Sounds like we might

1968
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,159
and and and I want to I want to talk a

1969
01:17:34,159 --> 01:17:36,560
little bit about the balance here

1970
01:17:36,560 --> 01:17:38,080
because

1971
01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:41,440
um obviously I don't want the cemetery

1972
01:17:41,440 --> 01:17:43,199
committee to be so granular that we're

1973
01:17:43,199 --> 01:17:46,239
asking about every every detail.

1974
01:17:46,239 --> 01:17:50,159
>> Um but at the same time the question

1975
01:17:50,159 --> 01:17:52,000
before council and the one that I'm

1976
01:17:52,000 --> 01:17:55,280
hoping to get an answer for eventually

1977
01:17:55,280 --> 01:17:58,640
is what realistically the cost of a

1978
01:17:58,640 --> 01:18:01,120
project like this would be. Um and then

1979
01:18:01,120 --> 01:18:03,120
depending on that the options going

1980
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:06,480
forward. So it's for me I can see this

1981
01:18:06,480 --> 01:18:08,080
kind of in two ways. We can we can get

1982
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:09,920
really specific and have a very detailed

1983
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:12,320
plan going in and then get a price model

1984
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:15,920
for that. We can go in and kind of look

1985
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:18,320
at it and because in your presentation

1986
01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,640
it was still and and correct me if I'm

1987
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:22,800
wrong those questions are still being

1988
01:18:22,800 --> 01:18:23,760
explored.

1989
01:18:23,760 --> 01:18:25,920
>> Yeah. And actually you know we had like

1990
01:18:25,920 --> 01:18:28,400
six options. There's really only two

1991
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:32,080
that we are seriously looking at. That's

1992
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:34,000
>> in addition to keeping it with in the

1993
01:18:34,000 --> 01:18:34,640
city.

1994
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:38,560
>> Yeah. The city and the the other one was

1995
01:18:38,560 --> 01:18:39,679
>> public private

1996
01:18:39,679 --> 01:18:42,239
>> and and or you know combining with

1997
01:18:42,239 --> 01:18:44,800
another city that maybe already has the

1998
01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:47,600
knowledge too. But the problem with

1999
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:49,280
>> that represents a tax impact that

2000
01:18:49,280 --> 01:18:51,280
represents an increased cost.

2001
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:53,360
>> There's three but but two of those

2002
01:18:53,360 --> 01:18:56,400
options do fill up the available space.

2003
01:18:56,400 --> 01:18:58,000
So that y

2004
01:18:58,000 --> 01:18:59,280
>> so that

2005
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:00,880
>> okay so

2006
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:03,280
>> I I have one more question for you um

2007
01:19:03,280 --> 01:19:05,679
Todd you know your presentation a couple

2008
01:19:05,679 --> 01:19:08,320
weeks ago you had some like engineering

2009
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:10,800
work that we had uh able to complete in

2010
01:19:10,800 --> 01:19:13,679
a in one small area that that showed the

2011
01:19:13,679 --> 01:19:17,280
viability of can we actually easily dig

2012
01:19:17,280 --> 01:19:19,840
graves in this area. Are is are there

2013
01:19:19,840 --> 01:19:22,960
plans to continue to investigate uh some

2014
01:19:22,960 --> 01:19:25,920
of more broader areas where where we

2015
01:19:25,920 --> 01:19:26,320
might

2016
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:26,960
>> we can do that

2017
01:19:26,960 --> 01:19:28,320
>> evaluate that?

2018
01:19:28,320 --> 01:19:30,880
>> Um we that was the area the area where

2019
01:19:30,880 --> 01:19:33,760
we did it was kind of the phase one area

2020
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:36,239
that we had been exploring.

2021
01:19:36,239 --> 01:19:39,199
>> Um Curtis Tanner, he's on our committee.

2022
01:19:39,199 --> 01:19:42,320
He's kind of the expert in that area and

2023
01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:45,280
he's he's out of town right now so we

2024
01:19:45,280 --> 01:19:46,640
can't

2025
01:19:46,640 --> 01:19:49,280
>> but we can we can pursue that a little

2026
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:52,159
bit more. I was frankly very s

2027
01:19:52,159 --> 01:19:55,120
pleasantly surprised at how well that

2028
01:19:55,120 --> 01:19:56,719
went

2029
01:19:56,719 --> 01:19:57,120
>> because

2030
01:19:57,120 --> 01:19:58,719
>> yeah that's one of the concerns. I've

2031
01:19:58,719 --> 01:20:03,120
spoken to several residents and they say that this it's too it's

2032
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:05,600
impossible. It's too rocky. But if we do

2033
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:07,440
some some testing like this, it would

2034
01:20:07,440 --> 01:20:09,280
kind of validate that whether it is or

2035
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:10,480
it's not. So that's

2036
01:20:10,480 --> 01:20:11,760
>> Yeah, I think we could probably answer

2037
01:20:11,760 --> 01:20:13,920
that question by just digging a couple

2038
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:15,760
of more pits

2039
01:20:15,760 --> 01:20:16,320
>> and

2040
01:20:16,320 --> 01:20:21,120
>> two or three more up on the south. And I think I think that's worthwhile

2041
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:25,440
because um if I recall right

2042
01:20:25,440 --> 01:20:28,080
uh when they did the geological survey

2043
01:20:28,080 --> 01:20:33,440
for the rock loft ridge um they were

2044
01:20:33,440 --> 01:20:35,920
s they were surprised that that they

2045
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:37,920
didn't have as many rocks as they

2046
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:39,120
thought they would

2047
01:20:39,120 --> 01:20:42,719
>> in that I recognize they're two

2048
01:20:42,719 --> 01:20:46,000
different parcels of land but they're

2049
01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:48,800
not um they're not so far apart.

2050
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:52,960
that they're like majorly different. So,

2051
01:20:52,960 --> 01:20:56,560
>> the walking along there looks rocky,

2052
01:20:56,560 --> 01:20:56,960
>> right?

2053
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:58,159
>> So, that's where the I think that's

2054
01:20:58,159 --> 01:21:00,640
where the the feeling comes from.

2055
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:02,960
>> And I think maybe some would have said

2056
01:21:02,960 --> 01:21:06,320
that about where the Rock Loft bridge

2057
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:10,239
>> is is right now in the past. But

2058
01:21:10,239 --> 01:21:11,600
>> anyways, just

2059
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:13,440
>> um being that the direction that you're

2060
01:21:13,440 --> 01:21:16,960
wanting to go is to investigate will is

2061
01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:20,960
there a private um sort of um company

2062
01:21:20,960 --> 01:21:23,199
that would respond to a request for

2063
01:21:23,199 --> 01:21:26,159
information and make some sort of a

2064
01:21:26,159 --> 01:21:27,760
proposal. Maybe isn't the right word,

2065
01:21:27,760 --> 01:21:30,320
but like indicate that they would, you

2066
01:21:30,320 --> 01:21:33,600
know, in a in a in a detailed fashion,

2067
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:35,600
not just, hey, we're interested, but

2068
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:37,600
like, you know, in a detailed fashion of

2069
01:21:37,600 --> 01:21:39,120
like how

2070
01:21:39,120 --> 01:21:41,840
much they I mean the proposal has to has

2071
01:21:41,840 --> 01:21:44,320
to elicit and solicit that kind of

2072
01:21:44,320 --> 01:21:47,040
detail. How many acres are actually

2073
01:21:47,040 --> 01:21:48,880
available? Does that interest them?

2074
01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:50,719
Would they want more? Is that enough?

2075
01:21:50,719 --> 01:21:52,880
What and what can we use up there? It's

2076
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:54,960
not a hundred, you know, it's something

2077
01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:56,320
less than that.

2078
01:21:56,320 --> 01:21:56,880
>> And that

2079
01:21:56,880 --> 01:21:59,600
>> we've never implied as a hundred because

2080
01:21:59,600 --> 01:22:01,679
>> the picture implies it's not our intent

2081
01:22:01,679 --> 01:22:02,560
to apply that.

2082
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:04,719
>> Okay. The photo that's included in the

2083
01:22:04,719 --> 01:22:07,120
document implies it. So, I I'm not I'm

2084
01:22:07,120 --> 01:22:08,800
not trying to start a fight there. I'm

2085
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:11,280
just saying it needs a little bit of

2086
01:22:11,280 --> 01:22:13,440
cleaning up in order not to apply imply

2087
01:22:13,440 --> 01:22:15,040
that with the picture, but you know, all

2088
01:22:15,040 --> 01:22:16,239
I'm trying to say is like putting out

2089
01:22:16,239 --> 01:22:18,159
something that is specific enough that

2090
01:22:18,159 --> 01:22:20,000
you can get specific enough answers in

2091
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:21,280
return

2092
01:22:21,280 --> 01:22:23,760
>> that they can be evaluated and maybe at

2093
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:27,120
that point we approach or come back to

2094
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:30,159
our LRB and say if if we received

2095
01:22:30,159 --> 01:22:32,080
something back from that, we want help

2096
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:35,040
evaluating that against other options.

2097
01:22:35,040 --> 01:22:35,440
It

2098
01:22:35,440 --> 01:22:38,719
>> it might it might also be helpful to not

2099
01:22:38,719 --> 01:22:40,719
only do what you just indicated, but

2100
01:22:40,719 --> 01:22:42,880
also have

2101
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:45,679
>> the the interested parties

2102
01:22:45,679 --> 01:22:49,760
talk to LRB just just to get more

2103
01:22:49,760 --> 01:22:52,400
information get

2104
01:22:52,400 --> 01:22:54,400
>> I think that would be helpful

2105
01:22:54,400 --> 01:22:55,600
>> for you know because

2106
01:22:55,600 --> 01:22:57,360
>> committee to talk to LB

2107
01:22:57,360 --> 01:23:01,199
>> you know as as you've said that maybe

2108
01:23:01,199 --> 01:23:03,360
this is the right path maybe LRB is the

2109
01:23:03,360 --> 01:23:06,639
right path Maybe maybe it's not.

2110
01:23:06,639 --> 01:23:09,600
>> I'd like to you you have indicated you

2111
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:10,960
would like to ask more questions,

2112
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:11,520
>> right?

2113
01:23:11,520 --> 01:23:13,199
>> And

2114
01:23:13,199 --> 01:23:15,280
myself, my feelings are that if we have

2115
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:17,199
a committee that's been invested for

2116
01:23:17,199 --> 01:23:19,120
quite some time, it it does make sense

2117
01:23:19,120 --> 01:23:22,880
to have them try and see what they

2118
01:23:22,880 --> 01:23:24,960
think. You know, not they're not the

2119
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:28,320
deciding voice necessarily, but

2120
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:29,920
>> it would be nice just to see what they

2121
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:31,120
think,

2122
01:23:31,120 --> 01:23:32,000
>> right?

2123
01:23:32,000 --> 01:23:33,440
what they think about what

2124
01:23:33,440 --> 01:23:34,800
>> lb about

2125
01:23:34,800 --> 01:23:35,440
>> oh okay

2126
01:23:35,440 --> 01:23:38,000
>> you know some of the questions that

2127
01:23:38,000 --> 01:23:40,000
>> um

2128
01:23:40,000 --> 01:23:42,320
you know taught it as had

2129
01:23:42,320 --> 01:23:44,400
>> okay

2130
01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:47,430
>> um

2131
01:23:47,440 --> 01:23:50,480
that's fair I I had I was able to have a

2132
01:23:50,480 --> 01:23:52,000
good conversation I've already talked

2133
01:23:52,000 --> 01:23:54,080
Thank you Todd I already related this to

2134
01:23:54,080 --> 01:23:56,560
Todd but this afternoon I was hoping to

2135
01:23:56,560 --> 01:23:58,239
have someone from LB here tonight just

2136
01:23:58,239 --> 01:23:59,440
so everybody knows I was really working

2137
01:23:59,440 --> 01:24:02,719
hard on that but they you know, a lot of

2138
01:24:02,719 --> 01:24:04,000
cities to be in. He said he had three

2139
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:05,360
different places to be tonight and he

2140
01:24:05,360 --> 01:24:07,440
really would have liked to be here, but

2141
01:24:07,440 --> 01:24:09,920
sometimes it's just like that. Um, so I

2142
01:24:09,920 --> 01:24:12,000
did have an extensive conversation and

2143
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:13,440
was able to ask him the questions that

2144
01:24:13,440 --> 01:24:15,760
you had emailed Todd and if just so

2145
01:24:15,760 --> 01:24:17,360
council is where this is all in the last

2146
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:20,080
few hours, so I didn't have time to loop

2147
01:24:20,080 --> 01:24:23,199
everybody in, but I did ask them Todd's

2148
01:24:23,199 --> 01:24:25,600
questions that he had in the email. And

2149
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:28,159
so, um,

2150
01:24:28,159 --> 01:24:30,480
I

2151
01:24:30,480 --> 01:24:32,719
I'm trying the best I can to represent,

2152
01:24:32,719 --> 01:24:34,080
you know, the information that I have

2153
01:24:34,080 --> 01:24:38,639
from him. But this proposal that they've

2154
01:24:38,639 --> 01:24:43,280
given here as I've said aims to

2155
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:45,360
um

2156
01:24:45,360 --> 01:24:48,080
estimate a aims to evaluate cost of a

2157
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:52,159
city built se sorry a city built and

2158
01:24:52,159 --> 01:24:54,080
maintained and owned and operated

2159
01:24:54,080 --> 01:24:57,600
cemetery that is um self- sustaining and

2160
01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:01,199
in other words pays for itself. That was

2161
01:25:01,199 --> 01:25:03,760
what this is trying to evaluate in in

2162
01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:05,360
terms of cost for everybody's

2163
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:08,400
information. That was the model at the

2164
01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:10,000
time we asked for them to do a proposal.

2165
01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:12,000
That was what we were asking for. Things

2166
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:14,080
have evolved since that time into this

2167
01:25:14,080 --> 01:25:16,880
other direction of asking of wanting to

2168
01:25:16,880 --> 01:25:19,920
solicit for private. I mean that private

2169
01:25:19,920 --> 01:25:21,199
company is going to do the same

2170
01:25:21,199 --> 01:25:23,360
calculation you know only for them

2171
01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:25,280
they're going to be how how much do we

2172
01:25:25,280 --> 01:25:28,080
pay to develop this and to uh create a

2173
01:25:28,080 --> 01:25:30,320
cemetery and then maintain it and

2174
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:32,400
everything for how I'm not sure how many

2175
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:34,239
number of years they would commit to and

2176
01:25:34,239 --> 01:25:37,120
come back and then also make a profit at

2177
01:25:37,120 --> 01:25:39,520
it because they're in it for profit and

2178
01:25:39,520 --> 01:25:41,840
so they're performing their same the

2179
01:25:41,840 --> 01:25:44,320
same type of calculation on their side

2180
01:25:44,320 --> 01:25:47,040
you know and then come back to to us

2181
01:25:47,040 --> 01:25:49,840
with that if they do. So, we'll we'll I

2182
01:25:49,840 --> 01:25:51,199
mean, that's the same thing going on

2183
01:25:51,199 --> 01:25:56,320
here at both um sides. If we um if we

2184
01:25:56,320 --> 01:25:58,159
want to put that out first, I'm fine

2185
01:25:58,159 --> 01:26:00,000
with that's fine. Let's let's put that

2186
01:26:00,000 --> 01:26:02,080
out and see what comes back. Maybe

2187
01:26:02,080 --> 01:26:04,639
that's the first step, but I think you

2188
01:26:04,639 --> 01:26:06,800
still need an independent analysis at

2189
01:26:06,800 --> 01:26:08,560
that point. more questions get raised

2190
01:26:08,560 --> 01:26:10,400
when that comes back about the

2191
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:11,920
longevity, about the length of

2192
01:26:11,920 --> 01:26:14,560
commitment, about whether um it

2193
01:26:14,560 --> 01:26:16,320
eventually falls on the city because we

2194
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:19,199
see examples of that all over the place.

2195
01:26:19,199 --> 01:26:22,639
So, it raises more questions and those

2196
01:26:22,639 --> 01:26:24,880
would need answering too and an

2197
01:26:24,880 --> 01:26:28,480
evaluation of anything that were to be

2198
01:26:28,480 --> 01:26:30,800
returned from that RFI would be

2199
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:32,400
necessary and helpful,

2200
01:26:32,400 --> 01:26:33,440
>> right?

2201
01:26:33,440 --> 01:26:34,560
>> That would that would just be a

2202
01:26:34,560 --> 01:26:36,239
different proposal than this one here.

2203
01:26:36,239 --> 01:26:37,360
Sure.

2204
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:38,960
>> So,

2205
01:26:38,960 --> 01:26:41,760
one of the things to always consider too

2206
01:26:41,760 --> 01:26:45,679
is that government frequently takes on

2207
01:26:45,679 --> 01:26:48,880
tasks that private does not want to take

2208
01:26:48,880 --> 01:26:51,840
on. That's why we have cityrun water and

2209
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:54,560
city-run garbage pickup and those kinds

2210
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:56,719
of things as well. So,

2211
01:26:56,719 --> 01:26:58,480
>> so you're speaking of a cemetery as a

2212
01:26:58,480 --> 01:27:01,440
utility. Some cities consider that the

2213
01:27:01,440 --> 01:27:05,040
case and others do not. And it is a

2214
01:27:05,040 --> 01:27:07,600
there is there I I don't think you can

2215
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:10,080
find an example of a se city where a

2216
01:27:10,080 --> 01:27:12,480
cemetery even breaks even.

2217
01:27:12,480 --> 01:27:13,600
>> It just doesn't exist.

2218
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:15,120
>> And why are people building private

2219
01:27:15,120 --> 01:27:15,679
ones?

2220
01:27:15,679 --> 01:27:18,560
>> Well, I think that often times their

2221
01:27:18,560 --> 01:27:21,120
profits come from the funeral services

2222
01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:22,400
because there's some they're a company

2223
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:24,320
that provides those other services.

2224
01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:26,080
That's where they're making their profit

2225
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:28,159
center on is that it's not on the on the

2226
01:27:28,159 --> 01:27:30,560
grave site and maintenance of a

2227
01:27:30,560 --> 01:27:32,560
>> park. Well, it sounds it sounds to me

2228
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:34,080
like we maybe have some questions that

2229
01:27:34,080 --> 01:27:35,360
are going in different directions. The

2230
01:27:35,360 --> 01:27:37,280
question before council tonight is about

2231
01:27:37,280 --> 01:27:39,280
the LRB

2232
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:41,600
and this proposal. Correct.

2233
01:27:41,600 --> 01:27:44,560
>> Yes. This proposal specifically. Yeah.

2234
01:27:44,560 --> 01:27:47,520
Um given that information, I don't know

2235
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:49,280
that we do this in this section, but I

2236
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:51,199
think that it would probably be wise for

2237
01:27:51,199 --> 01:27:56,159
us to table this and come back to um get

2238
01:27:56,159 --> 01:27:58,800
a little bit more input from cemetery

2239
01:27:58,800 --> 01:28:02,880
committee and then we can answer some of

2240
01:28:02,880 --> 01:28:05,600
those questions a little bit more

2241
01:28:05,600 --> 01:28:08,560
and not have this be quite as big of a

2242
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:09,760
question because right now this feels

2243
01:28:09,760 --> 01:28:12,320
like we're talking about a lot of

2244
01:28:12,320 --> 01:28:14,880
different things and if we have

2245
01:28:14,880 --> 01:28:16,880
A feasibility study is what I would love

2246
01:28:16,880 --> 01:28:19,199
to see. I would love to see what I'm

2247
01:28:19,199 --> 01:28:22,719
asking our neighbors to pay for um and

2248
01:28:22,719 --> 01:28:24,960
what it would look like and are they in

2249
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:27,840
favor of the kind of cemetery that we're

2250
01:28:27,840 --> 01:28:31,520
talking about. Um and those are the

2251
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:33,679
questions that

2252
01:28:33,679 --> 01:28:35,520
I don't know that again they could be

2253
01:28:35,520 --> 01:28:38,400
answered by this study but without buyin

2254
01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:40,800
from the cemetery committee I'm not very

2255
01:28:40,800 --> 01:28:41,920
comfortable moving forward with that

2256
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:43,840
right now. Well, the other thing is if

2257
01:28:43,840 --> 01:28:46,239
you we look down the agenda on our

2258
01:28:46,239 --> 01:28:49,040
citywide survey, one of the things that

2259
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:52,000
was proposed that Darren sent us out was

2260
01:28:52,000 --> 01:28:54,560
to put a question about cemeteries in.

2261
01:28:54,560 --> 01:28:55,600
So,

2262
01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:56,080
>> correct.

2263
01:28:56,080 --> 01:28:58,880
>> That may be helpful as well.

2264
01:28:58,880 --> 01:29:00,400
>> Correct.

2265
01:29:00,400 --> 01:29:02,960
>> So, would the council

2266
01:29:02,960 --> 01:29:04,480
want to

2267
01:29:04,480 --> 01:29:06,719
>> are we jumping forward

2268
01:29:06,719 --> 01:29:08,239
again

2269
01:29:08,239 --> 01:29:10,159
thing? We I don't think it requires a

2270
01:29:10,159 --> 01:29:12,480
vote to say we can put that RFI out. It

2271
01:29:12,480 --> 01:29:15,280
just requires some leg work and

2272
01:29:15,280 --> 01:29:17,120
communication between committee and

2273
01:29:17,120 --> 01:29:20,560
staff. Um is that a direction the

2274
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:23,600
council wants to direct staff to go

2275
01:29:23,600 --> 01:29:25,679
ahead and help that go forward?

2276
01:29:25,679 --> 01:29:26,880
>> Are you going to wait till the action

2277
01:29:26,880 --> 01:29:28,080
items or what do you

2278
01:29:28,080 --> 01:29:30,239
>> do you want to discuss that or not? You

2279
01:29:30,239 --> 01:29:33,600
know, I mean

2280
01:29:33,600 --> 01:29:36,159
>> I'm open to doing it however works best.

2281
01:29:36,159 --> 01:29:40,400
I just um wanted to make sure that cuz I feel like I've gotten a little bit

2282
01:29:40,400 --> 01:29:42,560
lost here that we are still just talking

2283
01:29:42,560 --> 01:29:45,840
about this um

2284
01:29:45,840 --> 01:29:47,040
proposal. Correct.

2285
01:29:47,040 --> 01:29:50,800
>> Well, yeah, that's yes. I I will say

2286
01:29:50,800 --> 01:29:53,280
like I just say the the we can vote yes

2287
01:29:53,280 --> 01:29:55,840
or no on this proposal. Let just in your

2288
01:29:55,840 --> 01:29:58,880
mind give council direction for what the

2289
01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:01,040
cemetery committee has been trying to

2290
01:30:01,040 --> 01:30:05,120
work on toward asking for u an RFI

2291
01:30:05,120 --> 01:30:07,920
request for information on uh private

2292
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:11,840
companies um interest in the site um is

2293
01:30:11,840 --> 01:30:13,520
not necessarily a vote but we can

2294
01:30:13,520 --> 01:30:16,239
instead of you know we can give

2295
01:30:16,239 --> 01:30:17,840
direction in that. So I'm just putting

2296
01:30:17,840 --> 01:30:19,199
that out there. That's one of the things

2297
01:30:19,199 --> 01:30:21,280
you could do as a council tonight. Okay.

2298
01:30:21,280 --> 01:30:23,040
>> So on this,

2299
01:30:23,040 --> 01:30:26,159
>> I I I think that the question the the

2300
01:30:26,159 --> 01:30:29,679
answer to the the question of can can we

2301
01:30:29,679 --> 01:30:32,960
financially pay for this this is a this

2302
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:34,639
kind of a study would would help to

2303
01:30:34,639 --> 01:30:37,120
answer that. But I I don't I agree that

2304
01:30:37,120 --> 01:30:38,719
I don't think we're ready to to ask

2305
01:30:38,719 --> 01:30:40,400
those questions quite yet because there

2306
01:30:40,400 --> 01:30:44,960
are still a lot of unknowns. So

2307
01:30:44,960 --> 01:30:48,800
>> okay. Um there are that's exactly right.

2308
01:30:48,800 --> 01:30:52,790
A lot of unknowns. Um

2309
01:30:52,800 --> 01:30:55,040
okay we'll go to 6.3 purchase of

2310
01:30:55,040 --> 01:30:57,600
telemetry

2311
01:30:57,600 --> 01:30:59,760
scattera. Is that what that is that says

2312
01:30:59,760 --> 01:31:02,159
there? SCADA. Is that how we say SCADA?

2313
01:31:02,159 --> 01:31:04,880
Uh telemetry system upgrade. Lane you're

2314
01:31:04,880 --> 01:31:06,400
going to help us understand?

2315
01:31:06,400 --> 01:31:06,960
>> Yes.

2316
01:31:06,960 --> 01:31:08,880
>> All these terms. Please go ahead.

2317
01:31:08,880 --> 01:31:12,159
>> So SCADA is the supervisor control and

2318
01:31:12,159 --> 01:31:15,440
data acquisition system. Basically what

2319
01:31:15,440 --> 01:31:17,679
it is is it it's the brains of the water

2320
01:31:17,679 --> 01:31:21,199
system. It it turns on our water pumps,

2321
01:31:21,199 --> 01:31:28,239
our chlorine feeders, our well. It's it monitors flows. Um

2322
01:31:28,239 --> 01:31:30,239
it's it's the brains of the system. So

2323
01:31:30,239 --> 01:31:32,880
it it runs automatically. It it gives me

2324
01:31:32,880 --> 01:31:35,199
alarms if there's an issue with the

2325
01:31:35,199 --> 01:31:38,719
system. Um out of power, it it does

2326
01:31:38,719 --> 01:31:41,679
everything as far as operating the

2327
01:31:41,679 --> 01:31:43,280
system. Um,

2328
01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:45,199
>> it's the it's the controls. It's the

2329
01:31:45,199 --> 01:31:47,199
control logic. It's the control brains.

2330
01:31:47,199 --> 01:31:48,639
It's the computer

2331
01:31:48,639 --> 01:31:49,520
>> that does it.

2332
01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:51,360
>> Exactly. Yep. So, the current system we

2333
01:31:51,360 --> 01:31:55,280
have is it was put in in the early 2000s

2334
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:57,920
and computers have come a long way since

2335
01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:00,560
then. We we can't even get a lot of the

2336
01:32:00,560 --> 01:32:04,000
parts that we currently use to replace

2337
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:06,080
if they do go bad. They have to be

2338
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:11,360
rebuilt. I can't like and sometimes that takes weeks to do, right? So,

2339
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:13,760
>> how old is our our system right now?

2340
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:17,520
>> Uh, 2025 20 I think it's 25 years old.

2341
01:32:17,520 --> 01:32:20,000
So, I around right around 2000 it was

2342
01:32:20,000 --> 01:32:20,639
put in. So,

2343
01:32:20,639 --> 01:32:21,280
>> okay.

2344
01:32:21,280 --> 01:32:23,520
>> Um,

2345
01:32:23,520 --> 01:32:25,520
also with this new system, it's all

2346
01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:31,040
going to be tied into fiber. So, it's more secure. It can't get well,

2347
01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:32,639
it's a lot less likely to get

2348
01:32:32,639 --> 01:32:34,480
intercepted going through the city's

2349
01:32:34,480 --> 01:32:37,600
fiber. Um, it's a lot more secure. My

2350
01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:41,360
recommendation is to go with the MA

2351
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:45,280
automation system that they provided um

2352
01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:48,080
of $75,22

2353
01:32:48,080 --> 01:32:51,199
>> and that has everything everything you

2354
01:32:51,199 --> 01:32:52,960
could wish for.

2355
01:32:52,960 --> 01:32:55,199
>> Everything that we need. Okay. Yes. Yep.

2356
01:32:55,199 --> 01:32:58,000
Yeah. It's it's uh you can you can get

2357
01:32:58,000 --> 01:33:00,800
way you you can go way above and beyond

2358
01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:03,440
and we we don't need to. I'm I'm

2359
01:33:03,440 --> 01:33:05,440
surprised they're more than $50,000

2360
01:33:05,440 --> 01:33:07,199
cheaper than the next bidder.

2361
01:33:07,199 --> 01:33:08,159
>> So are we.

2362
01:33:08,159 --> 01:33:10,719
>> So So are we. And I reviewed this

2363
01:33:10,719 --> 01:33:17,520
extensively with with Compute. He's he this is what he does over there. He really he reviews skate systems for

2364
01:33:17,520 --> 01:33:19,679
other cities and and other people that

2365
01:33:19,679 --> 01:33:22,159
use controls and he he was very

2366
01:33:22,159 --> 01:33:25,440
surprised at the price. Um but it's it's

2367
01:33:25,440 --> 01:33:26,800
equivalent or greater than the other

2368
01:33:26,800 --> 01:33:28,960
ones as far as what we're putting in.

2369
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:29,280
So,

2370
01:33:29,280 --> 01:33:31,760
>> so, so the bid that came in from SKM and

2371
01:33:31,760 --> 01:33:34,880
APCO that were quite a bit more

2372
01:33:34,880 --> 01:33:35,600
>> same system,

2373
01:33:35,600 --> 01:33:37,679
>> same thing, same same equipment. I mean,

2374
01:33:37,679 --> 01:33:39,120
they have different

2375
01:33:39,120 --> 01:33:42,159
>> but but same same product, same same

2376
01:33:42,159 --> 01:33:43,280
abilities. Okay.

2377
01:33:43,280 --> 01:33:45,040
>> Probably different brands, but the same

2378
01:33:45,040 --> 01:33:46,239
functionality.

2379
01:33:46,239 --> 01:33:47,520
>> Yep. So,

2380
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:48,880
>> and nobody's going to get mad because

2381
01:33:48,880 --> 01:33:51,760
we're using something from China, right?

2382
01:33:51,760 --> 01:33:54,880
No, I I mean I don't I don't know that

2383
01:33:54,880 --> 01:33:56,639
much about technology, so I'm really

2384
01:33:56,639 --> 01:33:59,040
relying on Computch here and and I I've

2385
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:01,760
called on references for M8 and all of

2386
01:34:01,760 --> 01:34:03,360
them really and and none of them had bad

2387
01:34:03,360 --> 01:34:07,280
reviews, but M8 was

2388
01:34:07,280 --> 01:34:10,400
>> Yeah, nobody had he had extraordinary

2389
01:34:10,400 --> 01:34:11,040
reviews. So

2390
01:34:11,040 --> 01:34:12,960
>> I I assume this has a flexibility is

2391
01:34:12,960 --> 01:34:15,360
that we have you know new development

2392
01:34:15,360 --> 01:34:17,360
and we have to change our systems or we

2393
01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:20,000
have to send stuff up for the the animal

2394
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:22,000
control or something like that. This has

2395
01:34:22,000 --> 01:34:25,040
the capacity to change and be flexible

2396
01:34:25,040 --> 01:34:25,920
with us.

2397
01:34:25,920 --> 01:34:27,840
>> This is this is strictly for the water

2398
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:28,400
system.

2399
01:34:28,400 --> 01:34:29,600
>> This is our big water tank.

2400
01:34:29,600 --> 01:34:32,400
>> Yeah. Yeah. So it

2401
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:34,239
>> what what I'm saying is as our water

2402
01:34:34,239 --> 01:34:36,560
needs change over time, this is this

2403
01:34:36,560 --> 01:34:39,040
system is flexible enough to adapt to

2404
01:34:39,040 --> 01:34:41,760
all those needs. Yes. Yep.

2405
01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:44,320
>> You can you can add to add to it. So, if

2406
01:34:44,320 --> 01:34:46,719
there was like a new pump or something,

2407
01:34:46,719 --> 01:34:48,080
it it's one of those things that can be

2408
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:49,920
added right into the system. We don't

2409
01:34:49,920 --> 01:34:51,840
have to buy a whole new system for it to

2410
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:54,960
>> Did we Did we

2411
01:34:54,960 --> 01:34:58,560
discuss or did they talk about how much

2412
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:02,639
extra IO they would have in the system,

2413
01:35:02,639 --> 01:35:06,800
input output type stuff? Did do they did

2414
01:35:06,800 --> 01:35:10,400
they indicate anything like that?

2415
01:35:10,400 --> 01:35:13,280
Cap as far as water capacity.

2416
01:35:13,280 --> 01:35:16,639
>> No, as far as like adding components as

2417
01:35:16,639 --> 01:35:20,239
like adding a pump or adding a

2418
01:35:20,239 --> 01:35:22,400
>> adding adding just being a little bit

2419
01:35:22,400 --> 01:35:24,800
more flexible because if they

2420
01:35:24,800 --> 01:35:27,199
>> if they have a panel and they have this

2421
01:35:27,199 --> 01:35:29,120
much stuff to put in the panel,

2422
01:35:29,120 --> 01:35:29,520
>> yes,

2423
01:35:29,520 --> 01:35:32,080
>> then they cannot possibly put any the

2424
01:35:32,080 --> 01:35:34,159
flexibility is low. But if they have a

2425
01:35:34,159 --> 01:35:35,679
panel this big and they put this much in

2426
01:35:35,679 --> 01:35:37,360
there, they have a lot of flexibility.

2427
01:35:37,360 --> 01:35:39,280
That's what I'm talking about.

2428
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:42,000
>> So, the panel we're taking out is is

2429
01:35:42,000 --> 01:35:44,480
huge. The one that's going back in is

2430
01:35:44,480 --> 01:35:47,040
small. So, if So, yes, there is room to

2431
01:35:47,040 --> 01:35:49,440
add add to it. It's flexible. I did I

2432
01:35:49,440 --> 01:35:51,440
asked this question. We we can if we

2433
01:35:51,440 --> 01:35:53,760
ever have a need for another tank, we

2434
01:35:53,760 --> 01:35:55,920
can put more pumps on it. Yes.

2435
01:35:55,920 --> 01:35:58,080
>> Yeah, that's that's what I'm asking is

2436
01:35:58,080 --> 01:35:58,880
>> perfect. We can add

2437
01:35:58,880 --> 01:36:00,800
>> the way they they add that is through

2438
01:36:00,800 --> 01:36:04,400
>> Yes. IO, which is

2439
01:36:04,400 --> 01:36:06,639
>> that's not in the in the bid, but I did

2440
01:36:06,639 --> 01:36:07,600
that was verbally mentioned.

2441
01:36:07,600 --> 01:36:08,960
>> You may just want to

2442
01:36:08,960 --> 01:36:12,719
>> ask. I mean, I I I think you've done a

2443
01:36:12,719 --> 01:36:15,760
fantastic job, by the way, researching

2444
01:36:15,760 --> 01:36:18,560
this out. That That's a great price. I

2445
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:19,199
think you've

2446
01:36:19,199 --> 01:36:19,760
>> agreed.

2447
01:36:19,760 --> 01:36:22,159
>> This is awesome. Okay, good.

2448
01:36:22,159 --> 01:36:24,480
>> Yeah, it's way below way below budget.

2449
01:36:24,480 --> 01:36:25,360
So,

2450
01:36:25,360 --> 01:36:27,679
>> well done. Yeah.

2451
01:36:27,679 --> 01:36:29,679
>> Anything else from council on this right

2452
01:36:29,679 --> 01:36:31,360
now? Thank you. Yep.

2453
01:36:31,360 --> 01:36:33,440
>> Okay. Thanks so much, Lane. Thanks her

2454
01:36:33,440 --> 01:36:35,840
for your work keeping our water flowing

2455
01:36:35,840 --> 01:36:37,199
and clean.

2456
01:36:37,199 --> 01:36:37,920
>> Thank you.

2457
01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:39,440
>> Are you staying up here for trailer or

2458
01:36:39,440 --> 01:36:40,639
are you going back down?

2459
01:36:40,639 --> 01:36:41,760
>> Oh, yeah. Maybe you're staying right up

2460
01:36:41,760 --> 01:36:44,159
here. We're going to

2461
01:36:44,159 --> 01:36:44,880
>> just hang out.

2462
01:36:44,880 --> 01:36:46,400
>> Sell us on it. Come on.

2463
01:36:46,400 --> 01:36:48,719
>> Purchase of 6.4 purchase of public works

2464
01:36:48,719 --> 01:36:50,880
trailer replacement.

2465
01:36:50,880 --> 01:36:52,960
So, the current equipment trailer that

2466
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:56,480
we use, it it is capable of hauling the

2467
01:36:56,480 --> 01:36:59,119
mini excavator around, but it's it's

2468
01:36:59,119 --> 01:37:02,800
right at the limit. And I'm it's to be

2469
01:37:02,800 --> 01:37:05,360
honest, it's becoming a safety issue.

2470
01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:07,440
We, you know, we we have attachments

2471
01:37:07,440 --> 01:37:10,080
that go with us to these jobs.

2472
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:12,480
Granted, it's not far from the shop, but

2473
01:37:12,480 --> 01:37:15,119
it's it's we're almost overloading the

2474
01:37:15,119 --> 01:37:18,320
trailer when when we take it. So,

2475
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:20,880
>> our recommendation is to to purchase

2476
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:22,639
another trailer. It'll have an

2477
01:37:22,639 --> 01:37:25,280
additional axle. It'll be gooseeneck.

2478
01:37:25,280 --> 01:37:26,560
>> This wasn't the trailer that was used

2479
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:28,320
for the float, was it?

2480
01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:31,040
>> No. No. No. Different trailer. Different

2481
01:37:31,040 --> 01:37:32,000
trailer. The new

2482
01:37:32,000 --> 01:37:33,760
>> Hold the Old North Church just fine.

2483
01:37:33,760 --> 01:37:34,639
>> Yeah.

2484
01:37:34,639 --> 01:37:36,320
>> The new trailer we're proposing is it's

2485
01:37:36,320 --> 01:37:39,119
gooseeneck. It's three axle. Um

2486
01:37:39,119 --> 01:37:40,639
>> I've looked at them. They seem like

2487
01:37:40,639 --> 01:37:42,400
great trailers. I They're

2488
01:37:42,400 --> 01:37:43,920
>> Is it Is it the intent to keep the the

2489
01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:44,960
old one as well?

2490
01:37:44,960 --> 01:37:47,440
>> No. No. I I will sell it. We don't I

2491
01:37:47,440 --> 01:37:48,719
don't need another trailer. So,

2492
01:37:48,719 --> 01:37:49,119
>> okay.

2493
01:37:49,119 --> 01:37:51,440
>> So, that'll be put back into the vehicle

2494
01:37:51,440 --> 01:37:52,239
service fund.

2495
01:37:52,239 --> 01:37:55,199
>> Yes. Yep. Yep. And I've and I've got a

2496
01:37:55,199 --> 01:37:58,639
rough price for what it'll sell for. He

2497
01:37:58,639 --> 01:38:00,719
said maybe seven. We're hoping for

2498
01:38:00,719 --> 01:38:02,239
7,000. So,

2499
01:38:02,239 --> 01:38:03,760
>> are you going to just Are you trading

2500
01:38:03,760 --> 01:38:05,600
that in or you going to put it for sale?

2501
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:06,960
>> I think I can get more out of it if I

2502
01:38:06,960 --> 01:38:08,960
put it for sale through through the city

2503
01:38:08,960 --> 01:38:10,000
and not trade it in.

2504
01:38:10,000 --> 01:38:10,320
>> Yeah.

2505
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:11,440
I think you're right.

2506
01:38:11,440 --> 01:38:13,920
>> Yeah. So, that was my plan.

2507
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:14,320
So,

2508
01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:16,960
>> so um and no one is in public works is

2509
01:38:16,960 --> 01:38:20,960
related to uh Mac trailer box

2510
01:38:20,960 --> 01:38:22,480
>> raw max raw max

2511
01:38:22,480 --> 01:38:23,920
>> or yeah raw match

2512
01:38:23,920 --> 01:38:27,360
>> not that I'm aware of. I I I I say that

2513
01:38:27,360 --> 01:38:30,800
almost in in Jess because actually I was

2514
01:38:30,800 --> 01:38:34,159
reading minutes from another city a

2515
01:38:34,159 --> 01:38:37,600
while back and they they voted to buy a

2516
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:40,320
new trailer just similar to to this kind

2517
01:38:40,320 --> 01:38:42,320
of thing and then they found out that

2518
01:38:42,320 --> 01:38:44,320
one of the city council members actually

2519
01:38:44,320 --> 01:38:46,719
owned company the trailer was being

2520
01:38:46,719 --> 01:38:49,360
bought from and I'm like

2521
01:38:49,360 --> 01:38:51,040
>> that seems like a conflict.

2522
01:38:51,040 --> 01:38:53,360
>> It's raw max. It's not raw moss. So I

2523
01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:54,719
think we're okay on this side. We're

2524
01:38:54,719 --> 01:38:56,480
okay. Thank you.

2525
01:38:56,480 --> 01:38:58,159
>> Not not to my knowledge. So, yeah, my

2526
01:38:58,159 --> 01:38:58,800
recommendation,

2527
01:38:58,800 --> 01:38:59,760
>> I'm sure you're fine.

2528
01:38:59,760 --> 01:39:01,840
>> Purchase a new trailer at the cost of

2529
01:39:01,840 --> 01:39:04,480
$18,148.

2530
01:39:04,480 --> 01:39:08,239
>> Again, under what you said, 28,000 was

2531
01:39:08,239 --> 01:39:10,320
budgeted for a new utility vehicle for

2532
01:39:10,320 --> 01:39:13,280
parks and using that budget for this

2533
01:39:13,280 --> 01:39:15,360
instead. We're $10,000 underneath that

2534
01:39:15,360 --> 01:39:17,920
amount. So, great job again there.

2535
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:18,639
>> Good. Good work.

2536
01:39:18,639 --> 01:39:21,760
>> Thank you.

2537
01:39:21,760 --> 01:39:25,760
>> All right. Item 6.6.

2538
01:39:25,760 --> 01:39:28,320
Okay. Letter for the fifth. Fifth.

2539
01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:31,440
>> Oh, number 6.5.

2540
01:39:31,440 --> 01:39:34,080
>> Oh gosh. I see. Okay. Thank you, Gary. I

2541
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:37,679
skipped 6.5. Uh,

2542
01:39:37,679 --> 01:39:42,000
sorry. Award bid for citywide survey.

2543
01:39:42,000 --> 01:39:43,520
>> So, Darren's gonna

2544
01:39:43,520 --> 01:39:44,239
>> Yeah,

2545
01:39:44,239 --> 01:39:45,920
>> mayor and council, uh, we put out for

2546
01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:49,600
the RFP for a a survey. We had, um, 17

2547
01:39:49,600 --> 01:39:50,480
companies.

2548
01:39:50,480 --> 01:39:50,960
>> Wow.

2549
01:39:50,960 --> 01:39:54,400
>> Yeah. um that actually bid on the the

2550
01:39:54,400 --> 01:39:55,520
project.

2551
01:39:55,520 --> 01:39:57,760
>> Uh

2552
01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:00,719
the the ones that we reviewed were

2553
01:40:00,719 --> 01:40:03,520
within the what we budgeted as a city.

2554
01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:06,080
Uh the ones that were up and above that

2555
01:40:06,080 --> 01:40:07,920
um we did not review those. I actually

2556
01:40:07,920 --> 01:40:09,520
did go through them and score them

2557
01:40:09,520 --> 01:40:13,600
myself. Um but uh we weren't within the

2558
01:40:13,600 --> 01:40:19,280
budget area. I used uh seven or eight

2559
01:40:19,280 --> 01:40:20,960
um that were in the within the budget

2560
01:40:20,960 --> 01:40:24,560
that we did. Um I had um seven

2561
01:40:24,560 --> 01:40:27,440
individuals including myself uh score

2562
01:40:27,440 --> 01:40:32,960
each one of them. Um the the scoring um

2563
01:40:32,960 --> 01:40:36,080
came back within just about either the

2564
01:40:36,080 --> 01:40:40,080
same score or within a point different.

2565
01:40:40,080 --> 01:40:44,880
Um and looking at we scored on uh scope

2566
01:40:44,880 --> 01:40:46,639
of work

2567
01:40:46,639 --> 01:40:51,360
uh cost uh reference references

2568
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:56,480
experience. Can we can we work with

2569
01:40:56,480 --> 01:40:59,520
these companies to help like for the you

2570
01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:00,800
know one of your questions on the

2571
01:41:00,800 --> 01:41:03,600
cemetery um I think the cemetery

2572
01:41:03,600 --> 01:41:07,119
committee has explored so many things

2573
01:41:07,119 --> 01:41:10,080
that we have some specific things we'd

2574
01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:13,119
like answers to um so rather than being

2575
01:41:13,119 --> 01:41:15,119
really broad-based can we help with that

2576
01:41:15,119 --> 01:41:16,719
or do they just like put something

2577
01:41:16,719 --> 01:41:18,239
together no

2578
01:41:18,239 --> 01:41:19,440
>> answers to specific

2579
01:41:19,440 --> 01:41:23,679
>> right it so part of The RFP states

2580
01:41:23,679 --> 01:41:26,400
here's the basic topics um that were

2581
01:41:26,400 --> 01:41:28,880
asked of the council or that's been

2582
01:41:28,880 --> 01:41:31,920
talked about um

2583
01:41:31,920 --> 01:41:34,719
that they had questions. Okay. Is the

2584
01:41:34,719 --> 01:41:37,920
whole thing you want 20 questions just

2585
01:41:37,920 --> 01:41:39,840
on this? How do you want to break it up?

2586
01:41:39,840 --> 01:41:44,080
Um, yes, the council can give a a a a

2587
01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:46,320
better subject and I I'm hoping we can

2588
01:41:46,320 --> 01:41:48,080
talk about that maybe tonight a little

2589
01:41:48,080 --> 01:41:50,480
bit to bring it more in line because

2590
01:41:50,480 --> 01:41:53,040
each one of these is pretty broad um

2591
01:41:53,040 --> 01:41:53,679
>> well yeah

2592
01:41:53,679 --> 01:41:55,280
>> broad subject. A cemetery is a pretty

2593
01:41:55,280 --> 01:41:55,840
broad subject.

2594
01:41:55,840 --> 01:41:57,679
>> It is. And I'm looking at parks, trails,

2595
01:41:57,679 --> 01:41:59,440
and recreation and I'm thinking, you

2596
01:41:59,440 --> 01:42:01,199
know, they could go right back in and

2597
01:42:01,199 --> 01:42:04,000
say, you know, we should put trails on

2598
01:42:04,000 --> 01:42:05,920
people's property and the council has

2599
01:42:05,920 --> 01:42:07,520
said we don't want to put trails on

2600
01:42:07,520 --> 01:42:11,119
people's property. So why answer why ask

2601
01:42:11,119 --> 01:42:14,000
the question? Cuz

2602
01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:15,840
>> well I I think some of it is you're

2603
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:18,239
asking the question do do they want more

2604
01:42:18,239 --> 01:42:20,639
trails in the city? Do they want more

2605
01:42:20,639 --> 01:42:24,400
enemies or enemies? NO, WE DON'T WANT

2606
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:26,639
ANY more enemies. Do we want more things

2607
01:42:26,639 --> 01:42:30,560
at the park? Do we want

2608
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:32,320
>> uh more playgrounds?

2609
01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:33,440
>> Yes.

2610
01:42:33,440 --> 01:42:34,960
>> All those different things are at the

2611
01:42:34,960 --> 01:42:36,159
park. basketball courts

2612
01:42:36,159 --> 01:42:39,040
>> or basketball courts or or you know or

2613
01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:41,360
is there some you know is there

2614
01:42:41,360 --> 01:42:43,600
>> so all the companies I mean going

2615
01:42:43,600 --> 01:42:45,920
through them um they all have kind of

2616
01:42:45,920 --> 01:42:48,880
have their their own approach uh not

2617
01:42:48,880 --> 01:42:51,280
necessarily um but there there's a lot

2618
01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:54,000
of sim similarities in all of those and

2619
01:42:54,000 --> 01:42:57,119
as you as you kind of go through that um

2620
01:42:57,119 --> 01:43:01,199
just looking at the scores um

2621
01:43:01,199 --> 01:43:03,040
somebody may have gave oh man looking at

2622
01:43:03,040 --> 01:43:06,400
the references scored everything yet

2623
01:43:06,400 --> 01:43:08,800
when they scored their scope of work it

2624
01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:10,400
may be a lot lower because it didn't

2625
01:43:10,400 --> 01:43:12,960
match up to to all the you know things

2626
01:43:12,960 --> 01:43:16,560
that they were expecting. Uh and so um

2627
01:43:16,560 --> 01:43:19,360
each one of the the companies you know

2628
01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:23,040
has a chance to um call and talk to uh

2629
01:43:23,040 --> 01:43:25,520
and go through and ask questions. That's

2630
01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:28,400
what I have been doing. Um I haven't got

2631
01:43:28,400 --> 01:43:31,040
all of them back yet. I haven't got um

2632
01:43:31,040 --> 01:43:35,199
but I I kind of limited it down to the

2633
01:43:35,199 --> 01:43:39,119
top five, six and and the price range

2634
01:43:39,119 --> 01:43:41,760
for those ones there. Um in between

2635
01:43:41,760 --> 01:43:45,679
that. Um and then after we can get the

2636
01:43:45,679 --> 01:43:46,960
questions and all those kind of things,

2637
01:43:46,960 --> 01:43:49,520
I I could probably have it a lot better.

2638
01:43:49,520 --> 01:43:50,480
Um

2639
01:43:50,480 --> 01:43:53,360
>> but I also would like to get started. Um

2640
01:43:53,360 --> 01:43:55,920
>> yeah, without another two week

2641
01:43:55,920 --> 01:43:57,920
>> delay. I I was hoping I could get a lot

2642
01:43:57,920 --> 01:44:00,239
of it back. couple more days to ask a

2643
01:44:00,239 --> 01:44:02,239
couple more questions basically and then

2644
01:44:02,239 --> 01:44:04,159
we could if council can approve

2645
01:44:04,159 --> 01:44:05,119
something

2646
01:44:05,119 --> 01:44:08,000
>> you know um within

2647
01:44:08,000 --> 01:44:10,719
>> a range of that they're comfortable with

2648
01:44:10,719 --> 01:44:12,400
and that he can allow him to make that

2649
01:44:12,400 --> 01:44:14,719
decision within a few more days then uh

2650
01:44:14,719 --> 01:44:16,719
it avoids another two week delay

2651
01:44:16,719 --> 01:44:18,719
>> and there's there's things some of them

2652
01:44:18,719 --> 01:44:21,920
um you go through it you know they

2653
01:44:21,920 --> 01:44:23,600
>> aren't mailing out postcards one of them

2654
01:44:23,600 --> 01:44:26,080
is or two of them are which I think is a

2655
01:44:26,080 --> 01:44:28,560
really good thing um and So there's

2656
01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:29,679
costs for those

2657
01:44:29,679 --> 01:44:32,159
>> specific subjects that we're

2658
01:44:32,159 --> 01:44:33,040
>> Yeah.

2659
01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:35,600
There there are five five subjects

2660
01:44:35,600 --> 01:44:37,920
that uh when we put the RFP together

2661
01:44:37,920 --> 01:44:41,760
that um we wanted to talk uh that you

2662
01:44:41,760 --> 01:44:44,719
want your survey to be about um no

2663
01:44:44,719 --> 01:44:46,639
longer than 15 minutes because once you

2664
01:44:46,639 --> 01:44:48,239
go past that point

2665
01:44:48,239 --> 01:44:49,520
>> um

2666
01:44:49,520 --> 01:44:51,040
>> you don't get your answers. You don't

2667
01:44:51,040 --> 01:44:52,960
get anybody back with you. So there

2668
01:44:52,960 --> 01:44:55,760
there's a lot um honestly there's a lot

2669
01:44:55,760 --> 01:44:57,119
to it as you're going through it and

2670
01:44:57,119 --> 01:44:57,679
you're

2671
01:44:57,679 --> 01:44:59,119
>> and reading all those things

2672
01:44:59,119 --> 01:44:59,920
>> unbiased

2673
01:44:59,920 --> 01:45:03,360
>> and yeah very much uh I mean there there

2674
01:45:03,360 --> 01:45:04,800
are some that are in Utah and there are

2675
01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:07,679
some that are out of state and so there

2676
01:45:07,679 --> 01:45:09,840
there's just a lot of moving parts to

2677
01:45:09,840 --> 01:45:10,159
this

2678
01:45:10,159 --> 01:45:12,159
>> and this survey is going to be used as

2679
01:45:12,159 --> 01:45:14,880
part of our general plan so we're not

2680
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:15,840
duplicating that.

2681
01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:18,080
>> Well the general plan has its own open

2682
01:45:18,080 --> 01:45:20,400
houses and its own all those things

2683
01:45:20,400 --> 01:45:23,760
going on too. um and part has a survey

2684
01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:27,920
part of it um where they're calling for

2685
01:45:27,920 --> 01:45:31,600
um public input and stuff like that. So

2686
01:45:31,600 --> 01:45:34,320
I think we'll have less general plan

2687
01:45:34,320 --> 01:45:37,760
questions and we're going to have more

2688
01:45:37,760 --> 01:45:39,040
citywide questions.

2689
01:45:39,040 --> 01:45:40,080
>> Sure. Future

2690
01:45:40,080 --> 01:45:42,000
>> is where you know where do we see

2691
01:45:42,000 --> 01:45:45,199
envision of the city going? Um all those

2692
01:45:45,199 --> 01:45:47,920
kind of things that will just help us

2693
01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:50,159
get information. Well, other than I mean

2694
01:45:50,159 --> 01:45:52,000
there's only two items on here that

2695
01:45:52,000 --> 01:45:54,800
really wouldn't be gerine to a general

2696
01:45:54,800 --> 01:45:57,040
plan. I mean, election process and

2697
01:45:57,040 --> 01:45:58,800
emergency services, which would probably

2698
01:45:58,800 --> 01:46:02,159
be included even in a small way in

2699
01:46:02,159 --> 01:46:04,800
there. But, uh, the concern that I've

2700
01:46:04,800 --> 01:46:06,400
had and the concern that I want to

2701
01:46:06,400 --> 01:46:09,199
address is the fear of bias when it

2702
01:46:09,199 --> 01:46:11,360
comes to questions about how we ask

2703
01:46:11,360 --> 01:46:15,520
questions. Um, are we are there things

2704
01:46:15,520 --> 01:46:17,360
in the question that may or may not have

2705
01:46:17,360 --> 01:46:20,960
biased? And the answer is really truly

2706
01:46:20,960 --> 01:46:23,040
there isn't a way to ask questions

2707
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:25,360
without some bias in it. So in what ways

2708
01:46:25,360 --> 01:46:29,040
are we going to do the very best to get

2709
01:46:29,040 --> 01:46:33,040
the the question out and get the answer

2710
01:46:33,040 --> 01:46:35,600
back that we can then wrestle with and

2711
01:46:35,600 --> 01:46:39,119
say, you know,

2712
01:46:39,119 --> 01:46:40,960
>> are they going to be attempting to

2713
01:46:40,960 --> 01:46:44,400
survey every household?

2714
01:46:44,400 --> 01:46:46,880
So all of them have said that they would

2715
01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:50,320
send out um notification to as many

2716
01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:53,360
households they could in for rights um

2717
01:46:53,360 --> 01:46:55,360
if whether that's just taking the

2718
01:46:55,360 --> 01:46:58,320
utility billings and using those address

2719
01:46:58,320 --> 01:47:03,520
um buying the election um item that they

2720
01:47:03,520 --> 01:47:05,280
can buy for those that are

2721
01:47:05,280 --> 01:47:07,440
>> data that there's there's some different

2722
01:47:07,440 --> 01:47:10,239
options that are available um which are

2723
01:47:10,239 --> 01:47:12,080
once again they come to a cost

2724
01:47:12,080 --> 01:47:14,400
>> in in larger cities they would not send

2725
01:47:14,400 --> 01:47:16,560
to every household. They would take size

2726
01:47:16,560 --> 01:47:19,280
in smaller a city our size. I think it

2727
01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:22,320
is not without precedent to ask a

2728
01:47:22,320 --> 01:47:24,239
company to send to every household and

2729
01:47:24,239 --> 01:47:25,920
that

2730
01:47:25,920 --> 01:47:28,719
um you know just to hit the matrix that

2731
01:47:28,719 --> 01:47:31,840
we're required. um you you end up

2732
01:47:31,840 --> 01:47:34,159
sending it out to a lot of people to

2733
01:47:34,159 --> 01:47:38,000
meet those um different matrix and you

2734
01:47:38,000 --> 01:47:40,480
may send it out and you may you may be

2735
01:47:40,480 --> 01:47:42,400
short and so you send out a second

2736
01:47:42,400 --> 01:47:45,760
reminder saying hey we we need responses

2737
01:47:45,760 --> 01:47:48,239
and then you send them out um and then

2738
01:47:48,239 --> 01:47:51,040
making sure that uh

2739
01:47:51,040 --> 01:47:51,760
>> and and

2740
01:47:51,760 --> 01:47:54,080
>> it requires you know you're a FH city

2741
01:47:54,080 --> 01:47:56,800
resident or a property owner um so

2742
01:47:56,800 --> 01:47:59,440
there's there's just a lot and

2743
01:47:59,440 --> 01:48:02,080
>> I We want to do some pre, you know, some

2744
01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:04,480
prep work to to the community via the

2745
01:48:04,480 --> 01:48:06,320
ridge runner.

2746
01:48:06,320 --> 01:48:08,400
>> I'm actually in the Runner this time

2747
01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:10,320
going to put out that a survey will be

2748
01:48:10,320 --> 01:48:11,040
coming.

2749
01:48:11,040 --> 01:48:12,719
>> Um, be aware

2750
01:48:12,719 --> 01:48:14,320
>> um because I want people to start

2751
01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:16,080
thinking about that

2752
01:48:16,080 --> 01:48:17,920
>> uh and so we're going to have it in the

2753
01:48:17,920 --> 01:48:19,199
runner this month and we'll have it in

2754
01:48:19,199 --> 01:48:21,360
the rich runner next month and and

2755
01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:25,520
hopefully throughout September October

2756
01:48:25,520 --> 01:48:26,800
we will be pushing out a lot of

2757
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:29,840
information for people to um be

2758
01:48:29,840 --> 01:48:31,040
involved.

2759
01:48:31,040 --> 01:48:33,520
>> Um so

2760
01:48:33,520 --> 01:48:36,239
>> I I guess what I I'm really asking is

2761
01:48:36,239 --> 01:48:40,639
for the council to uh approve an amount

2762
01:48:40,639 --> 01:48:43,600
um not to go above so I can finish the

2763
01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:47,280
research and then hire somebody um is

2764
01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:49,199
what I what I'm trying to do so we can

2765
01:48:49,199 --> 01:48:51,440
continue to move forward.

2766
01:48:51,440 --> 01:48:53,679
>> Could you

2767
01:48:53,679 --> 01:48:55,840
if we did something like that could we

2768
01:48:55,840 --> 01:48:58,880
also add that we would like

2769
01:48:58,880 --> 01:49:00,960
I don't know. I don't know if it works

2770
01:49:00,960 --> 01:49:03,280
for you to call the council members and

2771
01:49:03,280 --> 01:49:05,360
tell them I've decided to award the bid

2772
01:49:05,360 --> 01:49:06,480
to blah blah blah.

2773
01:49:06,480 --> 01:49:08,880
>> Oh, yeah. I I would definitely would.

2774
01:49:08,880 --> 01:49:11,119
>> Um and I will tell you why.

2775
01:49:11,119 --> 01:49:14,639
>> I' we've done that in the past is to to

2776
01:49:14,639 --> 01:49:17,360
put kind of that kind of constraint. Um,

2777
01:49:17,360 --> 01:49:21,760
I I don't feel like that's a crossing a line of an open and public meeting

2778
01:49:21,760 --> 01:49:24,159
because if if we're going to spend this

2779
01:49:24,159 --> 01:49:26,320
amount of money and we're doing we're

2780
01:49:26,320 --> 01:49:28,480
and we approve that tonight, I think

2781
01:49:28,480 --> 01:49:29,520
it's just the

2782
01:49:29,520 --> 01:49:31,520
>> Oh, yeah. I No, I I definitely would.

2783
01:49:31,520 --> 01:49:33,920
Um, like I said, there there's a lot of

2784
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:36,800
questions that I I put out. I'm waiting

2785
01:49:36,800 --> 01:49:40,400
for the answers to come back or um I may

2786
01:49:40,400 --> 01:49:42,080
they may have a question back to me and

2787
01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:44,400
I and going back to them. It's turned

2788
01:49:44,400 --> 01:49:46,320
into a a

2789
01:49:46,320 --> 01:49:48,800
>> lot.

2790
01:49:48,800 --> 01:49:50,880
>> I I was hoping, you know, everybody'd

2791
01:49:50,880 --> 01:49:53,119
score it and we'd have one big

2792
01:49:53,119 --> 01:49:53,520
>> clear,

2793
01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:55,119
>> yep, this is the person and, you know,

2794
01:49:55,119 --> 01:49:58,719
the scores would show that um but the

2795
01:49:58,719 --> 01:50:02,639
scores were very tight and um through

2796
01:50:02,639 --> 01:50:04,719
the whole thing for just this company or

2797
01:50:04,719 --> 01:50:08,000
this company and and and it was just a

2798
01:50:08,000 --> 01:50:10,239
lot more challenging um than I thought.

2799
01:50:10,239 --> 01:50:12,880
So then we started asking questions.

2800
01:50:12,880 --> 01:50:17,360
Okay, I got this question, this question. Um, and so I'm

2801
01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:18,800
trying to take that opportunity to get

2802
01:50:18,800 --> 01:50:22,159
those questions. I just honestly I did

2803
01:50:22,159 --> 01:50:24,639
not feel comfortable tonight to say this

2804
01:50:24,639 --> 01:50:26,400
is what I really think we should do. Um,

2805
01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:28,159
I really didn't because I just don't

2806
01:50:28,159 --> 01:50:29,600
have the information.

2807
01:50:29,600 --> 01:50:30,960
>> But at the same time, you don't need two

2808
01:50:30,960 --> 01:50:32,800
more weeks either. Like

2809
01:50:32,800 --> 01:50:35,040
>> the second part is is we want to get a

2810
01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:35,920
decision

2811
01:50:35,920 --> 01:50:37,840
>> and so we can start

2812
01:50:37,840 --> 01:50:39,360
>> moving forward and getting things

2813
01:50:39,360 --> 01:50:42,239
working. Um the second part of that is I

2814
01:50:42,239 --> 01:50:44,880
was hoping you know maybe that there are

2815
01:50:44,880 --> 01:50:48,000
some questions the council had to narrow

2816
01:50:48,000 --> 01:50:49,760
it down. Now it's not asking the

2817
01:50:49,760 --> 01:50:52,159
question but it's narrowing the topic

2818
01:50:52,159 --> 01:50:54,960
down to just a little bit tonight. And

2819
01:50:54,960 --> 01:50:58,800
so that would be part of that. Um just

2820
01:50:58,800 --> 01:50:59,520
saying

2821
01:50:59,520 --> 01:51:00,000
>> sure

2822
01:51:00,000 --> 01:51:03,199
>> on this one maybe we want to know this this

2823
01:51:03,199 --> 01:51:07,040
>> or that that I can also put in there. Um

2824
01:51:07,040 --> 01:51:10,239
they um all the companies um will be

2825
01:51:10,239 --> 01:51:13,440
responsible for the questions. Um that's

2826
01:51:13,440 --> 01:51:14,719
their

2827
01:51:14,719 --> 01:51:17,830
>> that's

2828
01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:19,280
» we don't we don't not write the

2829
01:51:19,280 --> 01:51:20,639
questions ourselves. No.

2830
01:51:20,639 --> 01:51:22,960
>> And so that's their expertise. Um but

2831
01:51:22,960 --> 01:51:25,840
they they all said um that

2832
01:51:25,840 --> 01:51:27,280
>> narrowing the subjects down a little

2833
01:51:27,280 --> 01:51:28,880
bit. Um

2834
01:51:28,880 --> 01:51:30,320
>> because they there they are pretty

2835
01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:31,520
broad. I will tell you that they are

2836
01:51:31,520 --> 01:51:32,960
pretty broad. just kind of narrowing

2837
01:51:32,960 --> 01:51:35,920
down. And if the if there's really not a

2838
01:51:35,920 --> 01:51:37,199
lot of questions about the general plan

2839
01:51:37,199 --> 01:51:38,080
because we're going through that

2840
01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:41,520
process, then we use those questions on

2841
01:51:41,520 --> 01:51:42,159
the others.

2842
01:51:42,159 --> 01:51:42,639
>> Sure.

2843
01:51:42,639 --> 01:51:43,760
>> Because we can narrow it down and say,

2844
01:51:43,760 --> 01:51:45,920
"Okay, we maybe we want six questions

2845
01:51:45,920 --> 01:51:48,320
here, five questions here,

2846
01:51:48,320 --> 01:51:51,280
>> um four questions here, and just kind of

2847
01:51:51,280 --> 01:51:53,599
narrow it down to that to to keep it to

2848
01:51:53,599 --> 01:51:57,520
the 25 to 30 questions is what they're

2849
01:51:57,520 --> 01:51:59,440
saying. Um, every one of them is pretty

2850
01:51:59,440 --> 01:52:01,440
much saying that's the max. you won't

2851
01:52:01,440 --> 01:52:04,159
know no more than 30 questions because

2852
01:52:04,159 --> 01:52:06,000
and and then also along with that they

2853
01:52:06,000 --> 01:52:07,520
want to make sure your questions if you

2854
01:52:07,520 --> 01:52:09,199
have a big open-ended question it's

2855
01:52:09,199 --> 01:52:11,199
going to take a lot longer for people to

2856
01:52:11,199 --> 01:52:13,119
answer that. So you want to make sure

2857
01:52:13,119 --> 01:52:15,840
you're you're

2858
01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:18,320
trying to keep the questions pretty

2859
01:52:18,320 --> 01:52:19,119
>> straightforward.

2860
01:52:19,119 --> 01:52:21,199
>> So the the amount of you're asking for

2861
01:52:21,199 --> 01:52:23,920
is something less than 14,000. That's

2862
01:52:23,920 --> 01:52:32,400
the max. The max one that um out of the that group was Yeah. was 14.

2863
01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:34,239
>> You can get a really good survey done

2864
01:52:34,239 --> 01:52:36,480
for something $14,000 or less.

2865
01:52:36,480 --> 01:52:37,199
>> Yes.

2866
01:52:37,199 --> 01:52:39,679
>> And the delta between the low the low

2867
01:52:39,679 --> 01:52:43,040
bidder and that 14 was only $2,400. So,

2868
01:52:43,040 --> 01:52:44,960
this isn't a question necessarily of

2869
01:52:44,960 --> 01:52:47,199
huge amount of money. It just might be

2870
01:52:47,199 --> 01:52:48,639
>> which which one is going to meet the

2871
01:52:48,639 --> 01:52:50,480
needs of the community best.

2872
01:52:50,480 --> 01:52:53,440
>> The the bids came in from

2873
01:52:53,440 --> 01:52:58,800
um about 115 I believe to 62,000.

2874
01:52:58,800 --> 01:52:59,440
>> 62.

2875
01:52:59,440 --> 01:53:00,239
>> Yeah.

2876
01:53:00,239 --> 01:53:01,119
>> Was an outlier.

2877
01:53:01,119 --> 01:53:04,800
>> So there there's a huge range there. Um

2878
01:53:04,800 --> 01:53:07,679
and even even on the RFP I I gave them

2879
01:53:07,679 --> 01:53:09,520
this is the budget.

2880
01:53:09,520 --> 01:53:13,040
>> Um and so um we we really looked at the

2881
01:53:13,040 --> 01:53:15,040
ones that looked at the RFP and said

2882
01:53:15,040 --> 01:53:17,920
yes, I can do it within the budget. Now,

2883
01:53:17,920 --> 01:53:20,719
uh, if we were to say yes and allocate

2884
01:53:20,719 --> 01:53:23,199
that funding, um, could we get a report

2885
01:53:23,199 --> 01:53:25,040
on it at the next meeting, the short

2886
01:53:25,040 --> 01:53:25,920
report of who

2887
01:53:25,920 --> 01:53:28,239
>> Well, yeah. Once I make that decision, I

2888
01:53:28,239 --> 01:53:30,400
would actually just let everybody know.

2889
01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:32,239
>> But, but for the public, can we can we

2890
01:53:32,239 --> 01:53:32,719
have a little

2891
01:53:32,719 --> 01:53:34,239
>> on the next one, I just report this is

2892
01:53:34,239 --> 01:53:36,000
the company what we went with at the

2893
01:53:36,000 --> 01:53:38,000
next meeting.

2894
01:53:38,000 --> 01:53:39,520
>> So, you need us to answer a few

2895
01:53:39,520 --> 01:53:42,159
questions about specific questions.

2896
01:53:42,159 --> 01:53:45,520
>> Yeah. I just I'm the topic

2897
01:53:45,520 --> 01:53:47,119
>> or just like more narrow topic

2898
01:53:47,119 --> 01:53:52,880
>> just just kind of on the topic. What kind of questions for the park?

2899
01:53:52,880 --> 01:53:54,800
>> I mean do you want to see more

2900
01:53:54,800 --> 01:53:56,800
playgrounds? Do you want to see baseball

2901
01:53:56,800 --> 01:53:58,880
diamonds? Do you want to,

2902
01:53:58,880 --> 01:54:01,119
>> you know, do you want to see more parks?

2903
01:54:01,119 --> 01:54:01,599
>> Sure.

2904
01:54:01,599 --> 01:54:04,080
>> I mean those kind of things. Um

2905
01:54:04,080 --> 01:54:04,960
>> what would you like to see?

2906
01:54:04,960 --> 01:54:06,480
>> Trails. Trails.

2907
01:54:06,480 --> 01:54:07,920
>> What What would you like to I mean that

2908
01:54:07,920 --> 01:54:09,119
narrows it down really good. What would

2909
01:54:09,119 --> 01:54:10,639
you like to see with your parks?

2910
01:54:10,639 --> 01:54:11,119
>> Um

2911
01:54:11,119 --> 01:54:13,599
>> Sure. where where do you see the you

2912
01:54:13,599 --> 01:54:18,560
know emergency services first of all are

2913
01:54:18,560 --> 01:54:21,440
we happy with our emergency services I

2914
01:54:21,440 --> 01:54:24,400
mean I think that's important is the

2915
01:54:24,400 --> 01:54:26,400
community happy with the emergency

2916
01:54:26,400 --> 01:54:29,679
services we're using do we do we need to

2917
01:54:29,679 --> 01:54:31,920
look do we need to you know because they

2918
01:54:31,920 --> 01:54:34,080
they've increased

2919
01:54:34,080 --> 01:54:35,520
>> this might be a terribly dangerous

2920
01:54:35,520 --> 01:54:37,840
question to ask but I would like a

2921
01:54:37,840 --> 01:54:40,320
question about how um the public feels

2922
01:54:40,320 --> 01:54:43,840
about their elected officials.

2923
01:54:43,840 --> 01:54:45,360
>> You can do that in the middle of this.

2924
01:54:45,360 --> 01:54:47,679
>> Not not maybe not so super specific, but

2925
01:54:47,679 --> 01:54:49,920
I would like to see if if if people are

2926
01:54:49,920 --> 01:54:50,560
feeling

2927
01:54:50,560 --> 01:54:52,560
>> confident, you know, election process,

2928
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:54,159
>> election process,

2929
01:54:54,159 --> 01:54:55,920
>> you know, it comes up in those kind of

2930
01:54:55,920 --> 01:54:56,320
questions.

2931
01:54:56,320 --> 01:54:56,960
>> Okay. So,

2932
01:54:56,960 --> 01:54:59,360
>> caucus or primary uh we are the last

2933
01:54:59,360 --> 01:55:02,880
city in the state to keep doing caucus.

2934
01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:04,880
>> Yeah. I mean, so there's a serious I

2935
01:55:04,880 --> 01:55:06,480
mean that that is I think that deserves

2936
01:55:06,480 --> 01:55:09,760
asking. the previous survey has been un

2937
01:55:09,760 --> 01:55:12,159
under some criticism from some members

2938
01:55:12,159 --> 01:55:13,679
of the council and this is an

2939
01:55:13,679 --> 01:55:14,800
opportunity to

2940
01:55:14,800 --> 01:55:16,880
>> yeah it's an opportunity to ask the same

2941
01:55:16,880 --> 01:55:17,840
question. So

2942
01:55:17,840 --> 01:55:19,360
>> term limits same deal

2943
01:55:19,360 --> 01:55:22,960
>> but I I just think there's just a few

2944
01:55:22,960 --> 01:55:24,800
ideas or a few questions with those

2945
01:55:24,800 --> 01:55:28,239
topics and then they can take those and

2946
01:55:28,239 --> 01:55:31,520
um really research the question or

2947
01:55:31,520 --> 01:55:34,239
research how to write a question or come

2948
01:55:34,239 --> 01:55:36,639
up with four or five questions. So

2949
01:55:36,639 --> 01:55:37,840
great.

2950
01:55:37,840 --> 01:55:39,119
>> Okay.

2951
01:55:39,119 --> 01:55:42,550
>> Thank you, Darren.

2952
01:55:42,560 --> 01:55:49,599
Okay. Now, 6.6 letter for the fifth local option sales tax support.

2953
01:55:49,599 --> 01:55:51,199
Okay.

2954
01:55:51,199 --> 01:55:53,280
This one is

2955
01:55:53,280 --> 01:55:55,599
um a topic that is out there in our

2956
01:55:55,599 --> 01:55:57,360
county right now. I'm going to see if I

2957
01:55:57,360 --> 01:56:00,639
can explain this for the public and for

2958
01:56:00,639 --> 01:56:03,520
your benefit. Um

2959
01:56:03,520 --> 01:56:05,679
possibly for the council, too. I it took

2960
01:56:05,679 --> 01:56:07,679
me a couple of meetings, you know, we

2961
01:56:07,679 --> 01:56:09,199
Darren and I were both invited to work

2962
01:56:09,199 --> 01:56:12,400
meetings on this where we had um you

2963
01:56:12,400 --> 01:56:15,199
know, smart people explaining it to us

2964
01:56:15,199 --> 01:56:16,960
and opportunity to ask questions. So,

2965
01:56:16,960 --> 01:56:17,920
I'm going to try to bring that

2966
01:56:17,920 --> 01:56:22,239
information um here tonight to you. Um

2967
01:56:22,239 --> 01:56:24,400
the question before us is whether to

2968
01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:26,719
submit the a letter. I've got a letter

2969
01:56:26,719 --> 01:56:29,679
uh written of support that from our city

2970
01:56:29,679 --> 01:56:32,000
of supporting this the the adoption of

2971
01:56:32,000 --> 01:56:35,440
this um local option sales tax by our

2972
01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:36,880
county. It's the county that would be

2973
01:56:36,880 --> 01:56:39,119
adopting this, not our city. Just to be

2974
01:56:39,119 --> 01:56:41,599
clear, counties are authorized by the

2975
01:56:41,599 --> 01:56:44,239
state legislature to adopt this local

2976
01:56:44,239 --> 01:56:47,440
option sales tax. um just from a high

2977
01:56:47,440 --> 01:56:51,520
level view. Okay. Sales taxes are

2978
01:56:51,520 --> 01:56:54,239
collected by the state as we know and

2979
01:56:54,239 --> 01:56:57,199
then distributed out to cities and and

2980
01:56:57,199 --> 01:56:59,920
counties based on a formula that

2981
01:56:59,920 --> 01:57:01,679
involves half of it being based on the

2982
01:57:01,679 --> 01:57:04,560
point of sale where the sales tax was

2983
01:57:04,560 --> 01:57:06,239
collected and half of it being awarded

2984
01:57:06,239 --> 01:57:09,840
based on population of your city. And so

2985
01:57:09,840 --> 01:57:11,599
we don't get a whole lot from point of

2986
01:57:11,599 --> 01:57:13,840
sale obviously although it's always

2987
01:57:13,840 --> 01:57:17,760
brought up Amazon purchases count but um

2988
01:57:17,760 --> 01:57:20,080
population we're also small so we you

2989
01:57:20,080 --> 01:57:22,320
know but that's anyway that's a longer

2990
01:57:22,320 --> 01:57:23,920
discussion that's how sales taxes are

2991
01:57:23,920 --> 01:57:27,920
divided local option sales taxes are are

2992
01:57:27,920 --> 01:57:29,920
options that are approve that are

2993
01:57:29,920 --> 01:57:33,360
authorized the legislature authorizes

2994
01:57:33,360 --> 01:57:42,480
counties to um adopt or enact that um a certain percentage um and that money

2995
01:57:42,480 --> 01:57:45,119
will stay in that locality in that

2996
01:57:45,119 --> 01:57:48,320
county and it's in in in most cases it's

2997
01:57:48,320 --> 01:57:50,639
divided up in some fashion between

2998
01:57:50,639 --> 01:57:56,320
county and cities. Um this started many many many years ago with a first

2999
01:57:56,320 --> 01:57:57,679
quarter, a second quarter, a third

3000
01:57:57,679 --> 01:58:00,639
quarter and a fourth quarter. Quarter

3001
01:58:00,639 --> 01:58:03,599
meaning it's a quarter of 1% is the

3002
01:58:03,599 --> 01:58:06,639
amount of that sales tax. Okay. So these

3003
01:58:06,639 --> 01:58:10,000
are always focused on supporting um

3004
01:58:10,000 --> 01:58:13,280
transit or transportation funding in the

3005
01:58:13,280 --> 01:58:15,520
locality in the case of local option

3006
01:58:15,520 --> 01:58:17,119
sales tax in the county where they're

3007
01:58:17,119 --> 01:58:23,760
adopted whether that's um distributed to use the money for um from the county

3008
01:58:23,760 --> 01:58:25,679
level for transit or transportation

3009
01:58:25,679 --> 01:58:28,159
projects or

3010
01:58:28,159 --> 01:58:30,480
u distributed back to individual cities

3011
01:58:30,480 --> 01:58:33,760
for their transportation or transit um

3012
01:58:33,760 --> 01:58:37,840
needs. um those first four quarters are

3013
01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:40,239
all focused on on transit or

3014
01:58:40,239 --> 01:58:41,840
transportation in some fashion and

3015
01:58:41,840 --> 01:58:43,679
divided up. Those are already enacted.

3016
01:58:43,679 --> 01:58:45,360
Those are already part of our the sales

3017
01:58:45,360 --> 01:58:47,280
taxes that we pay. And to be clear,

3018
01:58:47,280 --> 01:58:50,560
because it was asked of me earlier, um

3019
01:58:50,560 --> 01:58:53,760
this does not apply to purchases of

3020
01:58:53,760 --> 01:58:57,920
food, gasoline, or of real estate. So

3021
01:58:57,920 --> 01:59:00,239
those three things, sales taxes do not

3022
01:59:00,239 --> 01:59:01,599
apply to those three things. So we're

3023
01:59:01,599 --> 01:59:04,320
not talking about groceries or gas. um

3024
01:59:04,320 --> 01:59:06,159
or selling your house in this in this

3025
01:59:06,159 --> 01:59:07,760
case, but other goods and services where

3026
01:59:07,760 --> 01:59:10,880
sales tax does apply. Okay.

3027
01:59:10,880 --> 01:59:13,599
So, the fifth fifth is the one currently

3028
01:59:13,599 --> 01:59:17,040
before us now and um

3029
01:59:17,040 --> 01:59:18,560
>> it's called a fifth fifth because it's a

3030
01:59:18,560 --> 01:59:20,800
fifth of a percent.20.

3031
01:59:20,800 --> 01:59:22,639
>> So, this document says Weber County, but

3032
01:59:22,639 --> 01:59:25,440
this is it's for Davis County. It's the

3033
01:59:25,440 --> 01:59:26,320
equivalent.

3034
01:59:26,320 --> 01:59:27,599
>> I'll mention that it's the same. Yeah,

3035
01:59:27,599 --> 01:59:29,199
it's the same.

3036
01:59:29,199 --> 01:59:32,080
So, this is a document um from off of

3037
01:59:32,080 --> 01:59:34,719
the website of uh Wasach Front Regional

3038
01:59:34,719 --> 01:59:36,960
Council that's explanatory. Anybody can

3039
01:59:36,960 --> 01:59:39,920
pull this up um if you search for it at

3040
01:59:39,920 --> 01:59:43,040
um at home too, but it's here. And um

3041
01:59:43,040 --> 01:59:44,719
I'm going to try to explain this. The

3042
01:59:44,719 --> 01:59:48,000
fifth fifth is called such as I said

3043
01:59:48,000 --> 01:59:49,280
because it's a fifth. It's not a

3044
01:59:49,280 --> 01:59:53,679
quarter. It's it's 20 uh or 0.20%.

3045
01:59:53,679 --> 01:59:56,400
And so just right off the bat, I'll say

3046
01:59:56,400 --> 01:59:59,280
in dollar amounts in terms of how much

3047
01:59:59,280 --> 02:00:03,360
that adds to um a purchase that equates

3048
02:00:03,360 --> 02:00:08,239
to two cents on a $10 purchase or 20

3049
02:00:08,239 --> 02:00:10,880
cents on a $100 purchase. And you can do

3050
02:00:10,880 --> 02:00:14,080
the math going up. It's not very much.

3051
02:00:14,080 --> 02:00:20,239
Um but um it is and and to let's see can

3052
02:00:20,239 --> 02:00:22,000
you can you go past the text? Do you

3053
02:00:22,000 --> 02:00:23,920
have the next one where it's a little

3054
02:00:23,920 --> 02:00:26,880
bit more visual for for this?

3055
02:00:26,880 --> 02:00:29,119
>> So, just to be clear, it's not just

3056
02:00:29,119 --> 02:00:31,679
purchases inside of Fruit Height City.

3057
02:00:31,679 --> 02:00:33,360
It's purchases anywhere in the

3058
02:00:33,360 --> 02:00:35,119
>> throughout the county. Correct.

3059
02:00:35,119 --> 02:00:36,400
Throughout the county. This would apply

3060
02:00:36,400 --> 02:00:40,960
throughout Davis County. So, um the 20%

3061
02:00:40,960 --> 02:00:44,239
um is would be divided up between cities

3062
02:00:44,239 --> 02:00:48,639
and counties in this fashion. So, 05%

3063
02:00:48,639 --> 02:00:50,960
would come to cities. Okay. Okay. Now,

3064
02:00:50,960 --> 02:00:52,960
that would come directly to us. It's not

3065
02:00:52,960 --> 02:00:55,440
something we have to apply for or bid

3066
02:00:55,440 --> 02:00:57,920
for against other cities in our county.

3067
02:00:57,920 --> 02:01:00,960
So, that for Fruit Heights and for any

3068
02:01:00,960 --> 02:01:02,800
city, that's a plus, right? It comes

3069
02:01:02,800 --> 02:01:06,480
straight to us. Um, and in dollar terms,

3070
02:01:06,480 --> 02:01:09,119
it's estimated, uh, where things are

3071
02:01:09,119 --> 02:01:12,320
right now, that's about $44,000 a year

3072
02:01:12,320 --> 02:01:14,080
that would come to our city that we

3073
02:01:14,080 --> 02:01:16,080
would be able to use toward our roads,

3074
02:01:16,080 --> 02:01:19,599
um, sidewalks, trails, transportation,

3075
02:01:19,599 --> 02:01:23,920
broadly defined. Okay. Um going down to

3076
02:01:23,920 --> 02:01:28,960
the um the bottom there, the F.05

3077
02:01:28,960 --> 02:01:31,920
would go to the county

3078
02:01:31,920 --> 02:01:35,360
um for to be used for transportation and

3079
02:01:35,360 --> 02:01:38,080
public and or public safety. So the

3080
02:01:38,080 --> 02:01:40,880
county could use that on transportation

3081
02:01:40,880 --> 02:01:44,000
or transit um things. Transit meaning

3082
02:01:44,000 --> 02:01:47,199
buses um bus service or or trains or

3083
02:01:47,199 --> 02:01:48,480
trams and things like that. That's

3084
02:01:48,480 --> 02:01:50,480
transit, right? and transportation

3085
02:01:50,480 --> 02:01:53,360
includes roads, bridges, sidewalks, um

3086
02:01:53,360 --> 02:01:55,599
trails, all those things. And that would

3087
02:01:55,599 --> 02:02:02,560
go to the county for um use use from that from their level,

3088
02:02:02,560 --> 02:02:05,360
right? Okay. So then that takes care of

3089
02:02:05,360 --> 02:02:07,040
half of it. So then the middle box

3090
02:02:07,040 --> 02:02:10,159
there, the 10%

3091
02:02:10,159 --> 02:02:13,599
um that's where this is this this is

3092
02:02:13,599 --> 02:02:15,599
where we're talking about why this has

3093
02:02:15,599 --> 02:02:18,080
suddenly come up right now for Davis

3094
02:02:18,080 --> 02:02:20,639
County. So, it's interesting. I hope I

3095
02:02:20,639 --> 02:02:22,480
explained this correctly. The

3096
02:02:22,480 --> 02:02:25,760
legislature built a timeline into this

3097
02:02:25,760 --> 02:02:29,280
bill. Um, and there was a a timeline

3098
02:02:29,280 --> 02:02:32,639
that would be triggered um at the point

3099
02:02:32,639 --> 02:02:39,760
when a certain number of counties had adopted this tax. Okay. Weber County

3100
02:02:39,760 --> 02:02:42,480
just recently adopted this tax and they

3101
02:02:42,480 --> 02:02:44,639
were the the one that put it over that

3102
02:02:44,639 --> 02:02:47,360
threshold and triggered a three-year

3103
02:02:47,360 --> 02:02:49,280
time clock if you want to say it that

3104
02:02:49,280 --> 02:02:54,400
way. Okay. So they they made uh made it

3105
02:02:54,400 --> 02:02:56,880
so this number of counties have now have

3106
02:02:56,880 --> 02:02:59,760
now adopted it. Now there's a time clock

3107
02:02:59,760 --> 02:03:02,000
three years from the time when in this

3108
02:03:02,000 --> 02:03:05,360
case Weber County um adopted that tax.

3109
02:03:05,360 --> 02:03:06,960
for three years. The legislature will

3110
02:03:06,960 --> 02:03:12,560
allow counties to use um that middle

3111
02:03:12,560 --> 02:03:15,669
um10%

3112
02:03:15,679 --> 02:03:18,560
as um

3113
02:03:18,560 --> 02:03:21,920
uh for and that so that goes from till

3114
02:03:21,920 --> 02:03:26,400
October 2029 for any purpose determined

3115
02:03:26,400 --> 02:03:29,440
by the county commissioners. So that

3116
02:03:29,440 --> 02:03:31,679
goes way beyond public safety or

3117
02:03:31,679 --> 02:03:33,679
transport, transit or anything else. for

3118
02:03:33,679 --> 02:03:35,360
any purpose they determine for three

3119
02:03:35,360 --> 02:03:37,119
years. Legislature says for three years

3120
02:03:37,119 --> 02:03:40,320
you can use it at your discretion and

3121
02:03:40,320 --> 02:03:42,239
after which so then you see it split

3122
02:03:42,239 --> 02:03:44,320
again up there on the diagram after that

3123
02:03:44,320 --> 02:03:47,040
point which is now um going to be

3124
02:03:47,040 --> 02:03:49,040
October 2029

3125
02:03:49,040 --> 02:03:53,199
um that that middle 10% will be divided

3126
02:03:53,199 --> 02:03:56,639
this way and it will go uh the top one

3127
02:03:56,639 --> 02:03:59,840
says 05 to transit again within the

3128
02:03:59,840 --> 02:04:01,760
county. All of this stays within the

3129
02:04:01,760 --> 02:04:03,360
county determined by the county

3130
02:04:03,360 --> 02:04:04,800
legislative body for transit and the

3131
02:04:04,800 --> 02:04:08,000
other 0.05 5 goes to the TTIF commuter

3132
02:04:08,000 --> 02:04:11,360
rail sub account. Um, which I believe, I

3133
02:04:11,360 --> 02:04:12,639
hope I'm not mistaken saying this, I

3134
02:04:12,639 --> 02:04:15,679
think that's aimed at um, frontr runner

3135
02:04:15,679 --> 02:04:19,520
updates with the Olympics coming. Um,

3136
02:04:19,520 --> 02:04:24,159
there is a um, a push and a hope and and

3137
02:04:24,159 --> 02:04:27,199
work toward getting um, the front runner

3138
02:04:27,199 --> 02:04:29,360
basically twice as efficient, twice as

3139
02:04:29,360 --> 02:04:32,159
many rides, twice as many um, twice as

3140
02:04:32,159 --> 02:04:34,480
often as it is now. And that involves

3141
02:04:34,480 --> 02:04:37,040
double tracking in along several places.

3142
02:04:37,040 --> 02:04:38,800
So that's an expensive project. Part of

3143
02:04:38,800 --> 02:04:41,119
that lies within our county. This money,

3144
02:04:41,119 --> 02:04:43,599
some of that money here, this 05 would

3145
02:04:43,599 --> 02:04:45,119
after three years go into a sub account

3146
02:04:45,119 --> 02:04:49,119
toward that. So um so the reason this is

3147
02:04:49,119 --> 02:04:50,960
up right now is because the time clock

3148
02:04:50,960 --> 02:04:53,280
has started. Davis County is saying,

3149
02:04:53,280 --> 02:04:56,800
"Hey, if we if we act now, we can use

3150
02:04:56,800 --> 02:04:58,880
three years worth of this revenue on

3151
02:04:58,880 --> 02:05:01,280
anything that at our discretion and we

3152
02:05:01,280 --> 02:05:03,360
have some needs we'd like to use it on."

3153
02:05:03,360 --> 02:05:05,040
The ones that were enumerated to us in

3154
02:05:05,040 --> 02:05:08,400
meetings included um county jail

3155
02:05:08,400 --> 02:05:10,880
expansion and updates. Correct me if I'm

3156
02:05:10,880 --> 02:05:13,040
wrong, Darren, from what you recall. Um

3157
02:05:13,040 --> 02:05:15,280
jail and the justice center um and

3158
02:05:15,280 --> 02:05:17,920
housing for um county employees there,

3159
02:05:17,920 --> 02:05:19,520
attorneys and others associated with

3160
02:05:19,520 --> 02:05:22,320
that work. Um,

3161
02:05:22,320 --> 02:05:23,840
remind me if I'm missing anything on

3162
02:05:23,840 --> 02:05:25,440
that list. There's some projects that

3163
02:05:25,440 --> 02:05:27,679
they wanted. I don't know if animal

3164
02:05:27,679 --> 02:05:29,360
shelter fits under that. She mentioned

3165
02:05:29,360 --> 02:05:31,280
earlier they are going to be asking for

3166
02:05:31,280 --> 02:05:32,080
funds, but

3167
02:05:32,080 --> 02:05:32,719
>> question

3168
02:05:32,719 --> 02:05:35,119
>> that equals Yes, just one second. That

3169
02:05:35,119 --> 02:05:37,920
equals that portion

3170
02:05:37,920 --> 02:05:42,719
in numbers um is estimated at pull it

3171
02:05:42,719 --> 02:05:47,679
off this paper. I think 8 million

3172
02:05:47,679 --> 02:05:50,960
that 10% that would go to the county and

3173
02:05:50,960 --> 02:05:53,119
be discretionary for three years and

3174
02:05:53,119 --> 02:05:54,719
then thereafter be divided in those

3175
02:05:54,719 --> 02:05:57,440
other two ways. So it's a significant

3176
02:05:57,440 --> 02:06:00,320
amount. Um what's your question David?

3177
02:06:00,320 --> 02:06:03,920
So, uh, Commissioner Kamalu was here at

3178
02:06:03,920 --> 02:06:06,400
the beginning of the meeting. Um, but

3179
02:06:06,400 --> 02:06:08,960
she didn't say specifically about this,

3180
02:06:08,960 --> 02:06:13,520
uh, uh, issue. Is is are we aware if our

3181
02:06:13,520 --> 02:06:15,360
county commissioners are in support of

3182
02:06:15,360 --> 02:06:18,000
this effort and we're we're trying to

3183
02:06:18,000 --> 02:06:20,800
show our support for them? What's I'm

3184
02:06:20,800 --> 02:06:22,239
just curious what the purpose of this

3185
02:06:22,239 --> 02:06:25,760
is. the county commissioners would uh

3186
02:06:25,760 --> 02:06:29,840
appreciate. No, they they would like to

3187
02:06:29,840 --> 02:06:31,840
of course take advantage of this

3188
02:06:31,840 --> 02:06:33,679
opportunity because obviously it

3189
02:06:33,679 --> 02:06:38,079
represents um an income stream that is

3190
02:06:38,079 --> 02:06:40,880
um that that does not require property

3191
02:06:40,880 --> 02:06:43,440
tax raising in order to accomplish major

3192
02:06:43,440 --> 02:06:46,960
projects for residents. We all use law

3193
02:06:46,960 --> 02:06:48,960
enforcement and justice and and all the

3194
02:06:48,960 --> 02:06:50,639
other things, right?

3195
02:06:50,639 --> 02:06:53,040
um the other the other options to pay

3196
02:06:53,040 --> 02:06:55,679
for that would be the property tax

3197
02:06:55,679 --> 02:06:59,520
raise. So they would like to use it but

3198
02:06:59,520 --> 02:07:02,159
they would also like to feel supported

3199
02:07:02,159 --> 02:07:04,239
and feel buy in and feel that residents

3200
02:07:04,239 --> 02:07:05,199
are okay with that.

3201
02:07:05,199 --> 02:07:08,560
>> Okay. Um, so just to highlight a little

3202
02:07:08,560 --> 02:07:10,960
bit here, um,

3203
02:07:10,960 --> 02:07:14,000
factors that that that go into this

3204
02:07:14,000 --> 02:07:17,199
property tax, sales tax, income tax,

3205
02:07:17,199 --> 02:07:18,239
we're not really talking about that one

3206
02:07:18,239 --> 02:07:20,159
right now, but these these taxes work

3207
02:07:20,159 --> 02:07:21,679
differently.

3208
02:07:21,679 --> 02:07:24,239
A property tax hits only the people who

3209
02:07:24,239 --> 02:07:27,280
live and own property here. And which

3210
02:07:27,280 --> 02:07:29,520
means only residents of Davis County.

3211
02:07:29,520 --> 02:07:32,960
And um of course we all are aware

3212
02:07:32,960 --> 02:07:35,199
property tax just just occurred um

3213
02:07:35,199 --> 02:07:39,599
recently within our county. A sales tax

3214
02:07:39,599 --> 02:07:42,480
um is different than that, right? It

3215
02:07:42,480 --> 02:07:46,400
captures sales. So, anyone visiting from

3216
02:07:46,400 --> 02:07:48,159
outside the county, purchasing

3217
02:07:48,159 --> 02:07:50,719
something, staying in a hotel, buying

3218
02:07:50,719 --> 02:07:52,719
anything, buying a ticket to Lagoon or

3219
02:07:52,719 --> 02:07:54,960
whatever, we have thousands and

3220
02:07:54,960 --> 02:07:57,440
thousands of visitors to our county um

3221
02:07:57,440 --> 02:07:59,280
every year because of the many cool

3222
02:07:59,280 --> 02:08:00,880
stuff, cool things we've got here.

3223
02:08:00,880 --> 02:08:04,000
Cherry Hill, I'll say, um, and those

3224
02:08:04,000 --> 02:08:05,440
from outside the county, then you're

3225
02:08:05,440 --> 02:08:08,960
harnessing that income stream from from

3226
02:08:08,960 --> 02:08:10,800
expenditures that others make and not

3227
02:08:10,800 --> 02:08:13,199
just s placing it on residents with

3228
02:08:13,199 --> 02:08:17,040
property taxes. So, that is that is um

3229
02:08:17,040 --> 02:08:19,199
advantageous to us. Of course, it's

3230
02:08:19,199 --> 02:08:20,800
Davis County residents. We also travel

3231
02:08:20,800 --> 02:08:24,079
to Weber County and Morgan County and

3232
02:08:24,079 --> 02:08:25,360
Cash County, all these other, you know,

3233
02:08:25,360 --> 02:08:27,440
we're paying this tax in their counties.

3234
02:08:27,440 --> 02:08:31,040
And so, you know, they can this allows

3235
02:08:31,040 --> 02:08:32,880
them to pay it in our county when they

3236
02:08:32,880 --> 02:08:35,840
come and support our own transportation

3237
02:08:35,840 --> 02:08:38,639
um needs and other other various needs

3238
02:08:38,639 --> 02:08:40,960
that this might be spent on. So, it

3239
02:08:40,960 --> 02:08:44,400
harnesses um that and it doesn't fall as

3240
02:08:44,400 --> 02:08:51,360
heavy on just our residents. you're you're accessing a um a revenue

3241
02:08:51,360 --> 02:08:54,239
stream that is far more diversified, far

3242
02:08:54,239 --> 02:08:56,880
more, you know, from outside the county

3243
02:08:56,880 --> 02:08:59,520
and things like that. And um and that

3244
02:08:59,520 --> 02:09:03,360
doesn't require you can accomplish some things for residents without having

3245
02:09:03,360 --> 02:09:07,520
to levy uh or um increase the property

3246
02:09:07,520 --> 02:09:10,560
tax that's on their property right now.

3247
02:09:10,560 --> 02:09:12,960
Um, you know, I know that none of us

3248
02:09:12,960 --> 02:09:15,520
generally speaking are like, "Yay, more

3249
02:09:15,520 --> 02:09:17,920
taxes." You know,

3250
02:09:17,920 --> 02:09:20,159
uh, I'm I don't, you know, I don't

3251
02:09:20,159 --> 02:09:22,960
relish that at all. But, uh, the reality

3252
02:09:22,960 --> 02:09:25,360
is we have a community. We have growing

3253
02:09:25,360 --> 02:09:27,840
community needs and things do cost more

3254
02:09:27,840 --> 02:09:29,040
money all the time. And these are

3255
02:09:29,040 --> 02:09:33,360
services that benefit us all. um

3256
02:09:33,360 --> 02:09:36,480
fire and and police and the uh other

3257
02:09:36,480 --> 02:09:40,400
things that of safety um jail things

3258
02:09:40,400 --> 02:09:42,320
like that, you know, do we want to say,

3259
02:09:42,320 --> 02:09:48,480
"Oh, you know, let's not um do this and let's just keep our jail, you know,

3260
02:09:48,480 --> 02:09:49,840
in a place where it's going to be

3261
02:09:49,840 --> 02:09:51,040
underfunctioning and then they don't

3262
02:09:51,040 --> 02:09:52,719
have room to keep whoever they they've

3263
02:09:52,719 --> 02:09:55,119
got to just release, you know, whoever

3264
02:09:55,119 --> 02:09:57,440
it is into the community and and that's

3265
02:09:57,440 --> 02:09:59,040
not probably a situ right? We want to

3266
02:09:59,040 --> 02:10:01,760
keep up with what the needs are for

3267
02:10:01,760 --> 02:10:04,560
safety and for public needs. Um, and

3268
02:10:04,560 --> 02:10:07,679
that's where um where this can be

3269
02:10:07,679 --> 02:10:10,239
advantageous without as heavy a burden

3270
02:10:10,239 --> 02:10:12,880
as a as a property tax increase feels

3271
02:10:12,880 --> 02:10:15,440
often to many people.

3272
02:10:15,440 --> 02:10:16,239
>> Um, mayor,

3273
02:10:16,239 --> 02:10:17,679
>> so I've tried to explain that as best I

3274
02:10:17,679 --> 02:10:19,599
can. It's a little complex, I know, but

3275
02:10:19,599 --> 02:10:20,079
yeah,

3276
02:10:20,079 --> 02:10:22,719
>> I think some of the that I understood

3277
02:10:22,719 --> 02:10:27,280
was that um the county commissioners um

3278
02:10:27,280 --> 02:10:31,679
wanted um the cities to support it um

3279
02:10:31,679 --> 02:10:34,400
because they're also getting money from

3280
02:10:34,400 --> 02:10:37,760
this um before they said, "Yeah, we're

3281
02:10:37,760 --> 02:10:40,239
100% in support of this." Um if the

3282
02:10:40,239 --> 02:10:43,199
cities aren't in support of this, um I I

3283
02:10:43,199 --> 02:10:46,159
would bet they will not do it. But if

3284
02:10:46,159 --> 02:10:50,239
the cities are in support of this and um

3285
02:10:50,239 --> 02:10:52,079
want to continue to move forward, this

3286
02:10:52,079 --> 02:10:55,840
is what that is saying is that uh Fruit

3287
02:10:55,840 --> 02:10:59,920
Heights is in support of this. Um

3288
02:10:59,920 --> 02:11:02,000
and and having it move forward. It's

3289
02:11:02,000 --> 02:11:04,719
just that's that's kind of the the

3290
02:11:04,719 --> 02:11:07,360
understanding I had from the the

3291
02:11:07,360 --> 02:11:08,800
meetings that I was in.

3292
02:11:08,800 --> 02:11:09,119
>> Yeah.

3293
02:11:09,119 --> 02:11:10,719
>> On this portion of it.

3294
02:11:10,719 --> 02:11:13,599
>> And there is a lot to this. it it it

3295
02:11:13,599 --> 02:11:15,280
takes a little bit to kind of go through

3296
02:11:15,280 --> 02:11:16,400
it and

3297
02:11:16,400 --> 02:11:18,400
>> get it. Um, and there was always a lot

3298
02:11:18,400 --> 02:11:20,320
of questions when we went through it.

3299
02:11:20,320 --> 02:11:22,960
Um, but yeah, it's just one of those

3300
02:11:22,960 --> 02:11:24,159
items that

3301
02:11:24,159 --> 02:11:25,920
>> When does the when does the county

3302
02:11:25,920 --> 02:11:28,480
commission plan to vote on this? Do you

3303
02:11:28,480 --> 02:11:30,639
know?

3304
02:11:30,639 --> 02:11:32,159
>> I I I think they're going to have

3305
02:11:32,159 --> 02:11:34,239
another probably another work session.

3306
02:11:34,239 --> 02:11:36,960
>> I don't know. They don't have a vote

3307
02:11:36,960 --> 02:11:38,000
scheduled right now.

3308
02:11:38,000 --> 02:11:43,440
>> Yeah, they don't have one voted. um they their comment was is if the

3309
02:11:43,440 --> 02:11:46,960
>> cities are are willing to support this

3310
02:11:46,960 --> 02:11:49,119
and say they're willing to support this

3311
02:11:49,119 --> 02:11:51,040
then we will really take a hard look at

3312
02:11:51,040 --> 02:11:54,079
it and

3313
02:11:54,079 --> 02:11:56,800
move that way. Um if the if the cities

3314
02:11:56,800 --> 02:12:00,400
aren't supporting it um they don't even

3315
02:12:00,400 --> 02:12:03,440
though they may want it they they don't

3316
02:12:03,440 --> 02:12:05,599
know what they'll do. So that's my

3317
02:12:05,599 --> 02:12:07,520
understanding from the the meetings I

3318
02:12:07,520 --> 02:12:09,280
was in. So,

3319
02:12:09,280 --> 02:12:09,760
>> thank you.

3320
02:12:09,760 --> 02:12:13,440
>> You know, and and as far as visitors to

3321
02:12:13,440 --> 02:12:14,960
our county, as I mentioned, I mean, we

3322
02:12:14,960 --> 02:12:16,800
do have Cherry Hill and of course, and

3323
02:12:16,800 --> 02:12:17,920
sometimes we have events that come

3324
02:12:17,920 --> 02:12:19,599
through in the past. We've had the the

3325
02:12:19,599 --> 02:12:22,400
bike ride. What was that one called? The

3326
02:12:22,400 --> 02:12:25,280
Anyway, um we when visitors come through

3327
02:12:25,280 --> 02:12:27,040
from other counties, you know, they're

3328
02:12:27,040 --> 02:12:28,800
using our roads and our trails and our

3329
02:12:28,800 --> 02:12:30,719
infrastructure and things. So it it

3330
02:12:30,719 --> 02:12:35,280
makes some sense that we um access

3331
02:12:35,280 --> 02:12:37,520
sharing that sharing that load of you

3332
02:12:37,520 --> 02:12:40,159
know money that can help maintain those

3333
02:12:40,159 --> 02:12:43,679
uh that infrastructure. Um that's p you

3334
02:12:43,679 --> 02:12:45,520
know being paid for by some of their

3335
02:12:45,520 --> 02:12:48,480
spending dollars as well as our own. Um

3336
02:12:48,480 --> 02:12:50,079
of course it includes us too. We're not

3337
02:12:50,079 --> 02:12:52,159
exempt from it. We we live and shop here

3338
02:12:52,159 --> 02:12:55,520
as well. Um so

3339
02:12:55,520 --> 02:12:58,000
um

3340
02:12:58,000 --> 02:13:01,040
let's see what other I I think that's

3341
02:13:01,040 --> 02:13:02,719
about as complete explanation as I can

3342
02:13:02,719 --> 02:13:04,480
offer. Are there thoughts from the

3343
02:13:04,480 --> 02:13:06,800
council on supporting

3344
02:13:06,800 --> 02:13:08,960
um or not supporting or or further

3345
02:13:08,960 --> 02:13:12,800
questions about this tax before we

3346
02:13:12,800 --> 02:13:15,360
>> So this is what we'd be voting on is

3347
02:13:15,360 --> 02:13:18,880
sending a letter to our county saying

3348
02:13:18,880 --> 02:13:20,960
Brute Heights is in support of this or

3349
02:13:20,960 --> 02:13:24,960
Fruit Heights is or remaining silent

3350
02:13:24,960 --> 02:13:27,520
or would we if we were not in support of

3351
02:13:27,520 --> 02:13:32,239
this do you send a letter or do you

3352
02:13:32,239 --> 02:13:34,239
>> time to talk

3353
02:13:34,239 --> 02:13:34,639
Yeah.

3354
02:13:34,639 --> 02:13:36,079
>> What's that, Eileen?

3355
02:13:36,079 --> 02:13:38,320
>> So, another choice is to table it for

3356
02:13:38,320 --> 02:13:40,639
two weeks. It only got on our agenda

3357
02:13:40,639 --> 02:13:42,880
yesterday afternoon, and I think a lot

3358
02:13:42,880 --> 02:13:45,280
of people were not aware it's there. Um,

3359
02:13:45,280 --> 02:13:48,000
we've had a we've had a lot of, um,

3360
02:13:48,000 --> 02:13:50,320
information saying why we should do it.

3361
02:13:50,320 --> 02:13:54,719
Um, I haven't heard cons. Um, and I'd

3362
02:13:54,719 --> 02:13:57,679
like to have the opportunity to have

3363
02:13:57,679 --> 02:14:02,310
more discussion.

3364
02:14:02,320 --> 02:14:04,239
Um, that's what this time is for. This

3365
02:14:04,239 --> 02:14:05,360
is for discussion.

3366
02:14:05,360 --> 02:14:07,599
>> Well, the I can think of some cons right

3367
02:14:07,599 --> 02:14:07,920
now.

3368
02:14:07,920 --> 02:14:09,920
>> Discussion outside of our city council

3369
02:14:09,920 --> 02:14:11,920
meeting with members of the community

3370
02:14:11,920 --> 02:14:13,840
and with county commissioners. I mean,

3371
02:14:13,840 --> 02:14:15,679
we've represented what they're saying,

3372
02:14:15,679 --> 02:14:18,950
but

3373
02:14:18,960 --> 02:14:23,510
I'd like to discuss it with them.

3374
02:14:23,520 --> 02:14:26,639
» Do you have do you have a um WFRC or

3375
02:14:26,639 --> 02:14:28,079
anyone else? Have they asked for a

3376
02:14:28,079 --> 02:14:30,320
timeline

3377
02:14:30,320 --> 02:14:33,599
on on getting a recommendation letter?

3378
02:14:33,599 --> 02:14:36,000
>> Um

3379
02:14:36,000 --> 02:14:39,360
I think just as soon as soon as may be

3380
02:14:39,360 --> 02:14:41,840
uh just because the timeline the

3381
02:14:41,840 --> 02:14:44,000
timeline I described that the time clock

3382
02:14:44,000 --> 02:14:46,239
you know that had that has started that

3383
02:14:46,239 --> 02:14:49,679
the county is looking at um is ticking

3384
02:14:49,679 --> 02:14:52,000
ever since we were

3385
02:14:52,000 --> 02:14:55,360
>> ever since ever since voted to to say

3386
02:14:55,360 --> 02:14:55,920
yes.

3387
02:14:55,920 --> 02:15:00,400
>> Yeah. So this the longer we delay it

3388
02:15:00,400 --> 02:15:02,560
just means like the less window of

3389
02:15:02,560 --> 02:15:04,719
opportunity there is to capture that

3390
02:15:04,719 --> 02:15:06,800
revenue and use it for the benefit of

3391
02:15:06,800 --> 02:15:10,480
our county and our residents. So

3392
02:15:10,480 --> 02:15:13,840
yeah, I there there's no deadline

3393
02:15:13,840 --> 02:15:15,760
imposed or or asked of us other than

3394
02:15:15,760 --> 02:15:18,239
that that I know of. It's just that

3395
02:15:18,239 --> 02:15:20,239
that's that's the reality that's there.

3396
02:15:20,239 --> 02:15:23,679
is a clock that's ticking on that

3397
02:15:23,679 --> 02:15:30,229
of opportunity. So

3398
02:15:30,239 --> 02:15:32,800
» Gary, you have some thoughts on this?

3399
02:15:32,800 --> 02:15:35,840
>> Um, I I I have no problem with

3400
02:15:35,840 --> 02:15:42,079
tableabling it and hearing I I it's uh

3401
02:15:42,079 --> 02:15:43,920
you know, we don't we don't know

3402
02:15:43,920 --> 02:15:46,400
everything. It's nice to hear just what

3403
02:15:46,400 --> 02:15:49,040
other people might

3404
02:15:49,040 --> 02:15:53,440
have against it. um or you know hear

3405
02:15:53,440 --> 02:15:57,199
some some differing opinions just

3406
02:15:57,199 --> 02:16:02,790
and bring it bring it back in two weeks.

3407
02:16:02,800 --> 02:16:04,239
» David, any thoughts?

3408
02:16:04,239 --> 02:16:05,679
>> No more questions.

3409
02:16:05,679 --> 02:16:07,280
>> Okay,

3410
02:16:07,280 --> 02:16:09,360
>> Blake, anything? I'm just a little bit

3411
02:16:09,360 --> 02:16:11,599
concerned about the framing of it being

3412
02:16:11,599 --> 02:16:15,199
that this is better than a a different

3413
02:16:15,199 --> 02:16:17,040
type of tax because we don't have to go

3414
02:16:17,040 --> 02:16:20,159
through a truth in taxation potentially.

3415
02:16:20,159 --> 02:16:21,119
Um

3416
02:16:21,119 --> 02:16:22,560
>> it's a good point

3417
02:16:22,560 --> 02:16:27,199
>> that um I don't think that and the

3418
02:16:27,199 --> 02:16:31,040
timeline there of 3 years where the um

3419
02:16:31,040 --> 02:16:33,679
county commission is able to make

3420
02:16:33,679 --> 02:16:36,080
decisions with it that could potentially

3421
02:16:36,080 --> 02:16:39,040
be funding that goes almost anywhere.

3422
02:16:39,040 --> 02:16:45,750
Um, I don't feel like that is the

3423
02:16:45,760 --> 02:16:49,120
to my mind I don't love the idea that we

3424
02:16:49,120 --> 02:16:52,240
don't have a specificity on that on that

3425
02:16:52,240 --> 02:16:55,200
use rather than that there would be a

3426
02:16:55,200 --> 02:16:56,719
timeline that that would then be used

3427
02:16:56,719 --> 02:16:59,120
for transportation. With that being

3428
02:16:59,120 --> 02:17:01,599
said, I do support

3429
02:17:01,599 --> 02:17:03,280
um

3430
02:17:03,280 --> 02:17:05,280
making sure that our transportation is

3431
02:17:05,280 --> 02:17:07,120
safe and that we are prepared for the

3432
02:17:07,120 --> 02:17:08,800
Olympics and that we have those things

3433
02:17:08,800 --> 02:17:11,519
in place. I would I would also prefer to

3434
02:17:11,519 --> 02:17:12,880
have a little bit of time to dig into

3435
02:17:12,880 --> 02:17:14,880
this. It's not, you know, if you say

3436
02:17:14,880 --> 02:17:17,439
that on $10 this is two cents, that

3437
02:17:17,439 --> 02:17:19,679
really is not something that I think

3438
02:17:19,679 --> 02:17:21,760
most of us would just say, well, okay.

3439
02:17:21,760 --> 02:17:24,800
Um, but uh whenever we're talking about

3440
02:17:24,800 --> 02:17:27,439
taxes, I think that we need to have a

3441
02:17:27,439 --> 02:17:30,800
little bit more data to

3442
02:17:30,800 --> 02:17:32,479
bring to our neighbors and to the

3443
02:17:32,479 --> 02:17:34,399
residents that we represent.

3444
02:17:34,399 --> 02:17:36,240
>> Um, even though this is just this isn't

3445
02:17:36,240 --> 02:17:38,719
a vote on saying yes to that tax. This

3446
02:17:38,719 --> 02:17:41,200
is a vote on supporting or not

3447
02:17:41,200 --> 02:17:43,040
supporting, but um I'm a little bit

3448
02:17:43,040 --> 02:17:44,240
uncomfortable.

3449
02:17:44,240 --> 02:17:45,280
>> Okay, I'm a little uncomfortable with

3450
02:17:45,280 --> 02:17:48,559
that. So, the county um I've not been on

3451
02:17:48,559 --> 02:17:50,160
to the county website about this only

3452
02:17:50,160 --> 02:17:51,679
because I've been in the meetings

3453
02:17:51,679 --> 02:17:53,439
anyway. So, I feel like I've received

3454
02:17:53,439 --> 02:17:55,200
some information. they'll they'll I'm

3455
02:17:55,200 --> 02:18:04,880
sure they have resources to bring out um you know further things to maybe that would

3456
02:18:04,880 --> 02:18:06,559
um elucidate

3457
02:18:06,559 --> 02:18:11,200
better than I have um whatever those u

3458
02:18:11,200 --> 02:18:15,920
things are that they would be wanting to utilize these resources for in our

3459
02:18:15,920 --> 02:18:20,080
county. Um as I say, I'm I'm the ones

3460
02:18:20,080 --> 02:18:21,760
that I've mentioned here were mentioned

3461
02:18:21,760 --> 02:18:23,760
in the meetings I was in. It may or may

3462
02:18:23,760 --> 02:18:26,240
not be a complete list of what the needs

3463
02:18:26,240 --> 02:18:29,040
are and this money could be um utilized

3464
02:18:29,040 --> 02:18:32,639
for. So that's um

3465
02:18:32,639 --> 02:18:34,559
further information that could be could

3466
02:18:34,559 --> 02:18:38,399
be um obtained, I'm sure. Um

3467
02:18:38,399 --> 02:18:40,080
the

3468
02:18:40,080 --> 02:18:42,160
uh well, I guess maybe that's all I all

3469
02:18:42,160 --> 02:18:47,830
I need to say about that. Um,

3470
02:18:47,840 --> 02:18:51,920
is there where's Oh, where is there um

3471
02:18:51,920 --> 02:18:54,000
before moving to the next is that is

3472
02:18:54,000 --> 02:18:55,920
that everything that is there anything

3473
02:18:55,920 --> 02:18:58,559
else you want to mention? I think we've

3474
02:18:58,559 --> 02:19:00,080
gone we've gone down the row. So, thank

3475
02:19:00,080 --> 02:19:04,790
you very much. Um,

3476
02:19:04,800 --> 02:19:06,319
if Commissioner Kamala were still here,

3477
02:19:06,319 --> 02:19:07,439
she could probably answer some of that,

3478
02:19:07,439 --> 02:19:10,240
but that's all right. Um, action items.

3479
02:19:10,240 --> 02:19:13,439
We'll go to 7.1.

3480
02:19:13,439 --> 02:19:14,960
We've already taken care of that one.

3481
02:19:14,960 --> 02:19:16,240
>> Yeah, we've taken care of that one.

3482
02:19:16,240 --> 02:19:17,760
We're going to move past that. And thank

3483
02:19:17,760 --> 02:19:18,960
you, council, for taking care of that

3484
02:19:18,960 --> 02:19:20,319
one. 7.2.

3485
02:19:20,319 --> 02:19:23,599
>> Make a motion to table the LRB cemetery

3486
02:19:23,599 --> 02:19:25,040
financial proposal.

3487
02:19:25,040 --> 02:19:30,629
>> I'll second that.

3488
02:19:30,639 --> 02:19:32,639
» A motion from Eileen and a second from

3489
02:19:32,639 --> 02:19:36,000
Gary on tableabling the LB proposal for

3490
02:19:36,000 --> 02:19:38,559
now. Is there discussion on that before

3491
02:19:38,559 --> 02:19:40,399
voting?

3492
02:19:40,399 --> 02:19:43,359
Okay. Um, all in favor of that motion,

3493
02:19:43,359 --> 02:19:45,200
please say yes.

3494
02:19:45,200 --> 02:19:45,519
>> Yes.

3495
02:19:45,519 --> 02:19:48,559
>> Any oppose say no.

3496
02:19:48,559 --> 02:19:52,319
>> That motion passes 4 to zero. Um, that

3497
02:19:52,319 --> 02:19:54,880
item will be tabled be revisited perhaps

3498
02:19:54,880 --> 02:19:58,560
later at a later date. Um

3499
02:19:58,560 --> 02:20:02,160
7.3 purchase of telemetry SCADA system

3500
02:20:02,160 --> 02:20:03,040
upgrade

3501
02:20:03,040 --> 02:20:07,040
>> to award the bid to M8 automation for a

3502
02:20:07,040 --> 02:20:10,479
total amount of $75,22.

3503
02:20:10,479 --> 02:20:11,120
Second.

3504
02:20:11,120 --> 02:20:12,640
>> Have a motion from Eileen and a second

3505
02:20:12,640 --> 02:20:14,720
from Blake. Any further questions or

3506
02:20:14,720 --> 02:20:15,760
discussions there?

3507
02:20:15,760 --> 02:20:17,520
>> Yeah, I want to I want to just discuss

3508
02:20:17,520 --> 02:20:19,520
one quick thing.

3509
02:20:19,520 --> 02:20:22,800
>> Lane, um

3510
02:20:22,800 --> 02:20:26,000
maybe in your conversations with them if

3511
02:20:26,000 --> 02:20:29,920
you can just see how much additional

3512
02:20:29,920 --> 02:20:32,399
capacity they have to add to be just a

3513
02:20:32,399 --> 02:20:34,399
little bit more just to be flexible just

3514
02:20:34,399 --> 02:20:37,359
to make sure that we're flexible. I know

3515
02:20:37,359 --> 02:20:38,479
that you've already kind of checked

3516
02:20:38,479 --> 02:20:40,399
that, but just

3517
02:20:40,399 --> 02:20:42,000
>> how how much more weight can this

3518
02:20:42,000 --> 02:20:43,760
trailer hold than what you have?

3519
02:20:43,760 --> 02:20:46,399
>> No, this is No, this is this is this is

3520
02:20:46,399 --> 02:20:48,479
Sorry, this is a skater. Thank you. So,

3521
02:20:48,479 --> 02:20:50,160
all I'm all I'm saying is

3522
02:20:50,160 --> 02:20:53,200
>> let's move it on. Um

3523
02:20:53,200 --> 02:20:55,200
if if if we need to add a little bit of

3524
02:20:55,200 --> 02:20:58,399
money to to make it a little bit more

3525
02:20:58,399 --> 02:21:01,680
flexible for future needs,

3526
02:21:01,680 --> 02:21:04,000
maybe maybe you come back to the council

3527
02:21:04,000 --> 02:21:07,359
for a little bit additional.

3528
02:21:07,359 --> 02:21:10,800
If that's if that's needed, if you deem

3529
02:21:10,800 --> 02:21:15,359
that's needed, I think 15 20% would be

3530
02:21:15,359 --> 02:21:17,280
completely adequate.

3531
02:21:17,280 --> 02:21:20,800
So, I I'm more than happy to go to him,

3532
02:21:20,800 --> 02:21:23,600
but with the conversations I've had with

3533
02:21:23,600 --> 02:21:26,160
him, this this system's flexible. We we

3534
02:21:26,160 --> 02:21:27,840
can add and I mean, yeah, it's going to

3535
02:21:27,840 --> 02:21:30,080
cost us to add, you know, put on I mean,

3536
02:21:30,080 --> 02:21:31,200
it's going to be more

3537
02:21:31,200 --> 02:21:33,200
>> wiring, more computers, more more all

3538
02:21:33,200 --> 02:21:33,600
that, but

3539
02:21:33,600 --> 02:21:35,840
>> I recognize that this this is maybe a

3540
02:21:35,840 --> 02:21:37,040
moot point

3541
02:21:37,040 --> 02:21:40,160
>> and I'm completely supportive of this

3542
02:21:40,160 --> 02:21:43,760
>> this bid. Um I'm backing it 100%. I'm

3543
02:21:43,760 --> 02:21:47,760
just saying that if if you find that for

3544
02:21:47,760 --> 02:21:50,319
some reason we need

3545
02:21:50,319 --> 02:21:52,080
some more just a little bit more money

3546
02:21:52,080 --> 02:21:55,200
to make it a little better because but

3547
02:21:55,200 --> 02:21:56,640
it sounds like it's already taken care

3548
02:21:56,640 --> 02:21:57,120
of.

3549
02:21:57,120 --> 02:21:58,640
>> Yeah, but I I can ask him. I can talk to

3550
02:21:58,640 --> 02:21:58,880
him.

3551
02:21:58,880 --> 02:22:02,160
>> That's I'm just asking you to

3552
02:22:02,160 --> 02:22:03,040
>> be real comfortable.

3553
02:22:03,040 --> 02:22:05,280
>> Just be Yeah, just just ask one more

3554
02:22:05,280 --> 02:22:06,880
question.

3555
02:22:06,880 --> 02:22:08,800
Terry, do you mind if I ask what the

3556
02:22:08,800 --> 02:22:11,520
concern is? Is this about compatibility

3557
02:22:11,520 --> 02:22:12,880
going forward that we might have a

3558
02:22:12,880 --> 02:22:14,399
system that is closed?

3559
02:22:14,399 --> 02:22:18,880
>> It's not it's not compatibility. It's future needs that if we expand or

3560
02:22:18,880 --> 02:22:22,319
we do something have an additional pump.

3561
02:22:22,319 --> 02:22:26,640
So, just my background, I I I

3562
02:22:26,640 --> 02:22:30,640
have to my in my line of work, I have to

3563
02:22:30,640 --> 02:22:33,280
uh get my equipment to I'm not the guy

3564
02:22:33,280 --> 02:22:36,800
that does it, but I I'm the manager that

3565
02:22:36,800 --> 02:22:40,880
has to get people to do it. And I have

3566
02:22:40,880 --> 02:22:43,680
ran I have run out of space.

3567
02:22:43,680 --> 02:22:47,439
And it it's horrible because it's super

3568
02:22:47,439 --> 02:22:50,479
cheap at this phase to put in extra

3569
02:22:50,479 --> 02:22:51,760
space.

3570
02:22:51,760 --> 02:22:55,200
And and so I know that we it's probably

3571
02:22:55,200 --> 02:22:59,359
there, but it's so cheap right now. I

3572
02:22:59,359 --> 02:23:01,760
just want to I want you to just ask the

3573
02:23:01,760 --> 02:23:02,160
question.

3574
02:23:02,160 --> 02:23:02,479
>> Yeah.

3575
02:23:02,479 --> 02:23:04,000
>> And if we need to add a little bit more

3576
02:23:04,000 --> 02:23:06,800
money later,

3577
02:23:06,800 --> 02:23:09,200
it'd be awesome to do it now.

3578
02:23:09,200 --> 02:23:11,200
>> So I can I'll ask him. I'll talk to him

3579
02:23:11,200 --> 02:23:11,600
tomorrow.

3580
02:23:11,600 --> 02:23:12,160
>> Okay.

3581
02:23:12,160 --> 02:23:14,560
>> Thanks, Gary. Good thoughts.

3582
02:23:14,560 --> 02:23:17,200
>> Uh further did you did I hear something

3583
02:23:17,200 --> 02:23:18,479
down here?

3584
02:23:18,479 --> 02:23:20,399
>> We had a motion. Did we get a second?

3585
02:23:20,399 --> 02:23:23,120
Yes, it was you. Yeah, it was you.

3586
02:23:23,120 --> 02:23:24,800
>> You were the second. I was second.

3587
02:23:24,800 --> 02:23:26,720
Sorry. I was say I was about to second

3588
02:23:26,720 --> 02:23:28,399
it again. I'm just like I second this

3589
02:23:28,399 --> 02:23:30,479
motion forward.

3590
02:23:30,479 --> 02:23:32,880
>> I have a motion from Eileen, a second

3591
02:23:32,880 --> 02:23:34,399
from Blake, and a second. Second from

3592
02:23:34,399 --> 02:23:36,240
Mike.

3593
02:23:36,240 --> 02:23:37,600
>> I think that's a third at that point

3594
02:23:37,600 --> 02:23:39,439
now. So,

3595
02:23:39,439 --> 02:23:41,280
>> all in favor of this motion, please say

3596
02:23:41,280 --> 02:23:42,399
yes.

3597
02:23:42,399 --> 02:23:44,479
>> Any oppose, say no.

3598
02:23:44,479 --> 02:23:47,280
>> Motion passes unanimously. Thank you.

3599
02:23:47,280 --> 02:23:49,680
Council of 7.4, for purchase of public

3600
02:23:49,680 --> 02:23:52,160
works trailer replacement.

3601
02:23:52,160 --> 02:23:54,479
>> Motion to purchase public works trailer

3602
02:23:54,479 --> 02:23:56,000
replacement.

3603
02:23:56,000 --> 02:23:57,920
>> Second

3604
02:23:57,920 --> 02:23:58,880
from Rawax

3605
02:23:58,880 --> 02:23:59,840
>> from Rawax.

3606
02:23:59,840 --> 02:24:00,479
>> Romax

3607
02:24:00,479 --> 02:24:02,479
>> trailers,

3608
02:24:02,479 --> 02:24:03,120
148

3609
02:24:03,120 --> 02:24:05,920
>> for 18,148.

3610
02:24:05,920 --> 02:24:07,200
>> Second. Oh,

3611
02:24:07,200 --> 02:24:08,880
>> I already have a second from David.

3612
02:24:08,880 --> 02:24:11,840
>> I already got it early. We're all

3613
02:24:11,840 --> 02:24:12,800
seconded.

3614
02:24:12,800 --> 02:24:15,200
>> Beat you to the punch. So, I have a I

3615
02:24:15,200 --> 02:24:16,560
have a motion from Gary, a second from

3616
02:24:16,560 --> 02:24:18,000
David. Is there any further question or

3617
02:24:18,000 --> 02:24:21,600
discussion on this item?

3618
02:24:21,600 --> 02:24:23,920
Okay. All in favor of this motion,

3619
02:24:23,920 --> 02:24:24,960
please say yes.

3620
02:24:24,960 --> 02:24:25,520
>> Yes.

3621
02:24:25,520 --> 02:24:28,880
>> Any oppose, say no. Motion passes four

3622
02:24:28,880 --> 02:24:30,800
to zero.

3623
02:24:30,800 --> 02:24:33,040
Um, thank you, council. And we'll go

3624
02:24:33,040 --> 02:24:36,080
turn the page over. 7.5 award bid for

3625
02:24:36,080 --> 02:24:39,040
citywide survey. In this case,

3626
02:24:39,040 --> 02:24:41,920
um, not awarding a bid, but do I have a

3627
02:24:41,920 --> 02:24:45,680
motion for what was described earlier to

3628
02:24:45,680 --> 02:24:47,200
approve an amount?

3629
02:24:47,200 --> 02:24:50,640
>> Motion motion to appropriate $14,000 for

3630
02:24:50,640 --> 02:24:53,359
a city-wide survey.

3631
02:24:53,359 --> 02:24:54,960
>> It's already appropriated.

3632
02:24:54,960 --> 02:24:56,319
>> Motion to approve.

3633
02:24:56,319 --> 02:24:59,280
>> Award approved.

3634
02:24:59,280 --> 02:25:01,120
>> Is that sufficient language wise?

3635
02:25:01,120 --> 02:25:02,080
>> Approve is good. You got that.

3636
02:25:02,080 --> 02:25:04,720
>> Motion to approve award for $14,000 for

3637
02:25:04,720 --> 02:25:05,680
a citywide survey.

3638
02:25:05,680 --> 02:25:07,040
>> Have a motion from Blake. Do I have a

3639
02:25:07,040 --> 02:25:08,399
second there?

3640
02:25:08,399 --> 02:25:08,960
>> Second.

3641
02:25:08,960 --> 02:25:10,800
>> I have a second from David. Thank you.

3642
02:25:10,800 --> 02:25:12,560
Is there further discussion or question

3643
02:25:12,560 --> 02:25:15,920
on this or comment?

3644
02:25:15,920 --> 02:25:18,160
Okay. All in favor of this motion,

3645
02:25:18,160 --> 02:25:19,600
please say yes.

3646
02:25:19,600 --> 02:25:20,399
>> Yes.

3647
02:25:20,399 --> 02:25:22,240
>> Any opposed? Say no.

3648
02:25:22,240 --> 02:25:24,240
>> No.

3649
02:25:24,240 --> 02:25:28,399
>> Motion passes by a 3 to one vote.

3650
02:25:28,399 --> 02:25:30,800
Uh Gary voting against, other three

3651
02:25:30,800 --> 02:25:34,000
voting in favor.

3652
02:25:34,000 --> 02:25:37,600
Um, thank you council. That passes of

3653
02:25:37,600 --> 02:25:41,359
7.6 a letter for uh fifth fifth local

3654
02:25:41,359 --> 02:25:44,880
option sales tax um support. Uh I should

3655
02:25:44,880 --> 02:25:47,439
say letter to the county I guess but

3656
02:25:47,439 --> 02:25:48,960
>> do I have a motion on this

3657
02:25:48,960 --> 02:25:51,680
>> to table a letter for the fifth fifth

3658
02:25:51,680 --> 02:25:54,160
local option sales tax support?

3659
02:25:54,160 --> 02:25:56,000
>> I have a motion from Eileen to table. Is

3660
02:25:56,000 --> 02:25:59,359
there a second for that motion?

3661
02:25:59,359 --> 02:26:01,439
>> I'll second that.

3662
02:26:01,439 --> 02:26:02,880
>> Have a second from Gary. Is there

3663
02:26:02,880 --> 02:26:05,439
further comment, discussion or question

3664
02:26:05,439 --> 02:26:09,359
on this um on this item?

3665
02:26:09,359 --> 02:26:13,359
>> Is there uh are there more I read

3666
02:26:13,359 --> 02:26:15,439
through all of the links that we had,

3667
02:26:15,439 --> 02:26:17,200
but I still had questions about this. Is

3668
02:26:17,200 --> 02:26:19,439
there an

3669
02:26:19,439 --> 02:26:22,720
I'll reach out to Commissioner Kamalu as

3670
02:26:22,720 --> 02:26:25,680
well, but I'd like to just get if you

3671
02:26:25,680 --> 02:26:27,840
know of any better or other sources of

3672
02:26:27,840 --> 02:26:29,840
information that I can reach out to. Um,

3673
02:26:29,840 --> 02:26:33,120
Commissioner Croft is hosting a

3674
02:26:33,120 --> 02:26:36,000
information thing on this on Thursday

3675
02:26:36,000 --> 02:26:38,800
night from 6:00 to 8 somewhere.

3676
02:26:38,800 --> 02:26:40,160
>> Okay.

3677
02:26:40,160 --> 02:26:42,240
>> At the old courthouse in Farmington,

3678
02:26:42,240 --> 02:26:43,520
second floor.

3679
02:26:43,520 --> 02:26:46,960
>> So, um, yes, Commissioner Croft's I

3680
02:26:46,960 --> 02:26:48,319
mean, I've read the same announcement

3681
02:26:48,319 --> 02:26:50,880
you have probably, but the comproller,

3682
02:26:50,880 --> 02:26:52,800
um, Scott, I'm trying to think of his

3683
02:26:52,800 --> 02:26:54,160
last name. What's his name?

3684
02:26:54,160 --> 02:26:56,960
>> Fletcher. Fletcher. Is that right? Will

3685
02:26:56,960 --> 02:26:59,280
be a part of that, too. So may have some

3686
02:26:59,280 --> 02:27:01,439
good information to share. I don't know

3687
02:27:01,439 --> 02:27:02,880
that will be like I plan I plan to

3688
02:27:02,880 --> 02:27:05,760
attend it as well. Um but yeah that's

3689
02:27:05,760 --> 02:27:08,560
one um public forum there. Council

3690
02:27:08,560 --> 02:27:10,880
members can reach out also to

3691
02:27:10,880 --> 02:27:12,560
commissioners if they would like. I can

3692
02:27:12,560 --> 02:27:15,680
share of course um Commissioner Kamalo

3693
02:27:15,680 --> 02:27:17,359
has shared her number with us right

3694
02:27:17,359 --> 02:27:20,960
here. That's easy. Um I'm happy to share

3695
02:27:20,960 --> 02:27:23,359
um other numbers with council members if

3696
02:27:23,359 --> 02:27:25,040
you'd like to reach out to ask question

3697
02:27:25,040 --> 02:27:27,280
or sorry with commissioners if you like

3698
02:27:27,280 --> 02:27:29,600
to reach out to ask uh questions on

3699
02:27:29,600 --> 02:27:33,680
that. So um

3700
02:27:33,680 --> 02:27:35,280
anything further before we take a vote

3701
02:27:35,280 --> 02:27:38,880
here? Okay, motion is from Eileen, a

3702
02:27:38,880 --> 02:27:41,120
second by Gary to table this for next

3703
02:27:41,120 --> 02:27:44,800
time um pending a little bit further uh

3704
02:27:44,800 --> 02:27:46,960
research. So all in favor of that

3705
02:27:46,960 --> 02:27:48,800
motion, please say yes. Yes.

3706
02:27:48,800 --> 02:27:49,200
>> Yes.

3707
02:27:49,200 --> 02:27:52,080
>> Any opposed, please say no.

3708
02:27:52,080 --> 02:27:54,399
>> Uh that was a four to zero vote to table

3709
02:27:54,399 --> 02:27:57,920
that. We'll bring it back in two weeks.

3710
02:27:57,920 --> 02:28:00,560
>> Um make a note to myself. Thank you very

3711
02:28:00,560 --> 02:28:03,359
much. Item 7.7 approve city council

3712
02:28:03,359 --> 02:28:06,000
meeting minutes for August 4th, 2026.

3713
02:28:06,000 --> 02:28:07,520
>> Motion to approve the city council

3714
02:28:07,520 --> 02:28:10,640
meeting minutes for August 4th, 2026.

3715
02:28:10,640 --> 02:28:12,319
>> I have a motion from Blake. Do I have a

3716
02:28:12,319 --> 02:28:13,600
second?

3717
02:28:13,600 --> 02:28:14,160
>> Second.

3718
02:28:14,160 --> 02:28:16,560
from David. Would anyone like to

3719
02:28:16,560 --> 02:28:17,760
make sure that everyone's aware if you

3720
02:28:17,760 --> 02:28:20,479
made any significant corrections that

3721
02:28:20,479 --> 02:28:22,880
others might not be aware of?

3722
02:28:22,880 --> 02:28:25,120
>> Just or at late stages made any

3723
02:28:25,120 --> 02:28:26,399
corrections others might not be aware of

3724
02:28:26,399 --> 02:28:27,680
if they were made late.

3725
02:28:27,680 --> 02:28:29,200
>> If you if you look at the minutes when

3726
02:28:29,200 --> 02:28:30,399
you see them and your name wasn't

3727
02:28:30,399 --> 02:28:32,000
spelled right. Sorry, we tried.

3728
02:28:32,000 --> 02:28:35,359
>> There were a lot of names. No idea.

3729
02:28:35,359 --> 02:28:37,359
>> There were lots of names. That wasn't

3730
02:28:37,359 --> 02:28:37,840
great.

3731
02:28:37,840 --> 02:28:40,399
>> Yeah, that is very much a guessing game.

3732
02:28:40,399 --> 02:28:43,200
So, um, thank you. do it.

3733
02:28:43,200 --> 02:28:47,280
>> There is a an E after Joyce Savage.

3734
02:28:47,280 --> 02:28:49,920
May want to

3735
02:28:49,920 --> 02:28:50,640
>> extra E.

3736
02:28:50,640 --> 02:28:51,840
>> We're missing an E.

3737
02:28:51,840 --> 02:28:54,399
>> It's an extra spare byandom.

3738
02:28:54,399 --> 02:28:55,840
>> Little floating extra E there.

3739
02:28:55,840 --> 02:28:56,880
>> Floating extra E.

3740
02:28:56,880 --> 02:28:57,680
>> Not a big deal.

3741
02:28:57,680 --> 02:28:58,960
>> Names just

3742
02:28:58,960 --> 02:29:01,520
>> uh Yeah, not a big deal. So, we have a a

3743
02:29:01,520 --> 02:29:02,800
motion to adopt from Blake, a second

3744
02:29:02,800 --> 02:29:04,560
from David. All in favor of adopting

3745
02:29:04,560 --> 02:29:06,000
those minutes, please say yes.

3746
02:29:06,000 --> 02:29:06,640
>> Yes.

3747
02:29:06,640 --> 02:29:09,200
>> Any oppose, say no. Minutes are adopted.

3748
02:29:09,200 --> 02:29:11,760
Four to zero. Thank you, councel. All

3749
02:29:11,760 --> 02:29:14,399
right, we do have two tabled items for u

3750
02:29:14,399 --> 02:29:16,399
pending further discussion with

3751
02:29:16,399 --> 02:29:18,640
developers on two reszones which were

3752
02:29:18,640 --> 02:29:21,359
discussed in our previous meeting. I do

3753
02:29:21,359 --> 02:29:24,000
not have an update on those for tonight.

3754
02:29:24,000 --> 02:29:25,760
That is

3755
02:29:25,760 --> 02:29:27,520
just listed under tabled items because

3756
02:29:27,520 --> 02:29:29,280
they're still sitting on the table and

3757
02:29:29,280 --> 02:29:34,080
waiting for that um to return after

3758
02:29:34,080 --> 02:29:36,319
a forementioned discussions. Um new

3759
02:29:36,319 --> 02:29:37,840
business number nine, new business for

3760
02:29:37,840 --> 02:29:39,840
upcoming meeting. anything council

3761
02:29:39,840 --> 02:29:41,280
members would like to

3762
02:29:41,280 --> 02:29:44,399
>> could I ask on those t table res have we

3763
02:29:44,399 --> 02:29:47,200
had made any progress on in on those

3764
02:29:47,200 --> 02:29:49,120
areas they they've been developers

3765
02:29:49,120 --> 02:29:51,280
talked to the city about this

3766
02:29:51,280 --> 02:29:53,439
>> so both developers are looking at

3767
02:29:53,439 --> 02:29:55,840
different options um they're going

3768
02:29:55,840 --> 02:29:58,000
through that right now once once they

3769
02:29:58,000 --> 02:29:59,680
have that put together then they they

3770
02:29:59,680 --> 02:30:01,120
will said they would get back with the

3771
02:30:01,120 --> 02:30:03,600
city at that time and start discussions

3772
02:30:03,600 --> 02:30:04,800
>> okay thank you

3773
02:30:04,800 --> 02:30:07,760
>> thank you

3774
02:30:07,760 --> 02:30:09,439
>> anything else under number nine if

3775
02:30:09,439 --> 02:30:12,479
anyone would like to mention or

3776
02:30:12,479 --> 02:30:14,160
>> on nine. Are we on nine now?

3777
02:30:14,160 --> 02:30:15,359
>> Yeah, we're on nine.

3778
02:30:15,359 --> 02:30:20,399
>> Um I have a question. um a year ago,

3779
02:30:20,399 --> 02:30:23,439
well more than a year ago, in March and

3780
02:30:23,439 --> 02:30:25,680
April of 2025, the planning commission

3781
02:30:25,680 --> 02:30:29,439
was looking at um

3782
02:30:29,439 --> 02:30:31,200
making some significant changes to the

3783
02:30:31,200 --> 02:30:34,399
R3 zone um that Jeff had recommended and

3784
02:30:34,399 --> 02:30:38,640
it kind of died on the vine. And um I

3785
02:30:38,640 --> 02:30:43,760
the way I feel about it right now is is

3786
02:30:43,760 --> 02:30:45,760
I I don't know why we would spot zone

3787
02:30:45,760 --> 02:30:50,880
something and into an ordinance that is

3788
02:30:50,880 --> 02:30:56,640
got potential issues. And um so

3789
02:30:56,640 --> 02:30:58,240
I was wondering if maybe the planning

3790
02:30:58,240 --> 02:31:02,640
commission could be asked uh what their

3791
02:31:02,640 --> 02:31:05,280
if they want to reconsider what Jeff had

3792
02:31:05,280 --> 02:31:07,600
brought up to them. uh a year ago last

3793
02:31:07,600 --> 02:31:11,120
March which was you know Jeff said that

3794
02:31:11,120 --> 02:31:14,880
he felt like 25 units per acre was too

3795
02:31:14,880 --> 02:31:17,680
much in that R3 zone and I think it

3796
02:31:17,680 --> 02:31:20,080
would be nice also to see larger

3797
02:31:20,080 --> 02:31:23,040
setbacks for a 45 foot tall building.

3798
02:31:23,040 --> 02:31:24,720
Um, I mean there there could be a spot

3799
02:31:24,720 --> 02:31:28,319
for a 45 tall building, but if it is, it

3800
02:31:28,319 --> 02:31:29,920
needs to be farther away from property

3801
02:31:29,920 --> 02:31:32,960
lines. And so I, you know, wondered if

3802
02:31:32,960 --> 02:31:34,720
maybe we could ask that the planning

3803
02:31:34,720 --> 02:31:37,439
commission to to look back at the

3804
02:31:37,439 --> 02:31:41,359
discussion from a year ago and and look

3805
02:31:41,359 --> 02:31:43,600
at that R3 zone and maybe think about

3806
02:31:43,600 --> 02:31:46,560
making a better recommendation of what

3807
02:31:46,560 --> 02:31:50,080
would be more palatable. Um, and and

3808
02:31:50,080 --> 02:31:52,080
again, one of my things would be, and of

3809
02:31:52,080 --> 02:31:54,080
course, I'm only one, but I'd like to

3810
02:31:54,080 --> 02:31:56,880
discuss the the uh trying to put

3811
02:31:56,880 --> 02:31:59,200
something of an R3 on less than one

3812
02:31:59,200 --> 02:32:03,439
acre. I could see this type of building

3813
02:32:03,439 --> 02:32:05,920
going in in many, many places in our

3814
02:32:05,920 --> 02:32:08,240
community that would be very disruptive

3815
02:32:08,240 --> 02:32:11,680
to neighborhoods. Um, somebody just

3816
02:32:11,680 --> 02:32:13,439
takes and buys two lots together that

3817
02:32:13,439 --> 02:32:16,720
are halfacre lots and puts up an

3818
02:32:16,720 --> 02:32:19,040
apartment building and it could happen

3819
02:32:19,040 --> 02:32:22,880
in my neighborhood or yours.

3820
02:32:22,880 --> 02:32:25,120
So, I wish we would have the planning

3821
02:32:25,120 --> 02:32:27,680
commission talk about that.

3822
02:32:27,680 --> 02:32:29,359
>> So, you're asking a planning commission

3823
02:32:29,359 --> 02:32:32,160
to re-examine the R3?

3824
02:32:32,160 --> 02:32:33,520
>> Yes.

3825
02:32:33,520 --> 02:32:35,600
>> That they already

3826
02:32:35,600 --> 02:32:37,040
discussing

3827
02:32:37,040 --> 02:32:38,640
>> finish the conversation.

3828
02:32:38,640 --> 02:32:40,800
>> Yeah.

3829
02:32:40,800 --> 02:32:42,319
from March of last year.

3830
02:32:42,319 --> 02:32:44,960
>> March 2025 thereabouts. Okay.

3831
02:32:44,960 --> 02:32:46,720
>> March and April 2025.

3832
02:32:46,720 --> 02:32:48,479
>> Is that is that something that we that

3833
02:32:48,479 --> 02:32:50,800
the council would discuss on the on

3834
02:32:50,800 --> 02:32:52,560
another meeting or is this just a

3835
02:32:52,560 --> 02:32:53,520
recommendation for the

3836
02:32:53,520 --> 02:32:56,319
>> Yeah, that's not a future council.

3837
02:32:56,319 --> 02:32:57,760
>> So, we're asked the planning commission

3838
02:32:57,760 --> 02:32:59,520
has to make the recommendation there.

3839
02:32:59,520 --> 02:33:02,399
They have to originate land land use. So

3840
02:33:02,399 --> 02:33:04,240
then it would then they would have to

3841
02:33:04,240 --> 02:33:05,920
have an open house or a public hearing

3842
02:33:05,920 --> 02:33:09,120
on the their changes and then it would

3843
02:33:09,120 --> 02:33:11,120
come to the city council. So it' still

3844
02:33:11,120 --> 02:33:12,399
be a ways out there, but

3845
02:33:12,399 --> 02:33:13,439
>> that's process.

3846
02:33:13,439 --> 02:33:15,760
>> It's one of those things that has been

3847
02:33:15,760 --> 02:33:17,040
kicked down the road for a really long

3848
02:33:17,040 --> 02:33:19,920
time and needs to stop being kicked.

3849
02:33:19,920 --> 02:33:21,760
It would be it would be nice if we could

3850
02:33:21,760 --> 02:33:25,520
get um just a little bit of a now that

3851
02:33:25,520 --> 02:33:27,359
we have a new commissioner and they'll

3852
02:33:27,359 --> 02:33:28,560
be going through he'll be going through

3853
02:33:28,560 --> 02:33:31,520
his new training and to get ready and uh

3854
02:33:31,520 --> 02:33:34,000
maybe just an opportunity to look at

3855
02:33:34,000 --> 02:33:36,080
some of those. We've got

3856
02:33:36,080 --> 02:33:38,640
>> our C2 is got some issues as well.

3857
02:33:38,640 --> 02:33:40,399
>> It would I'm not I'm not recommending

3858
02:33:40,399 --> 02:33:43,520
that we have a complete overhaul, but I

3859
02:33:43,520 --> 02:33:47,600
do think that it would be helpful to

3860
02:33:47,600 --> 02:33:49,439
have

3861
02:33:49,439 --> 02:33:51,280
a number of those ordinances looked at

3862
02:33:51,280 --> 02:33:52,560
make sure that we still have the

3863
02:33:52,560 --> 02:33:55,840
appropriate maps and if not just general

3864
02:33:55,840 --> 02:33:57,680
upkeep on some of that language that

3865
02:33:57,680 --> 02:34:00,880
would be preferable

3866
02:34:00,880 --> 02:34:01,280
that's it

3867
02:34:01,280 --> 02:34:02,880
>> just so you know with the general plan

3868
02:34:02,880 --> 02:34:04,479
some of these will be looked at at that

3869
02:34:04,479 --> 02:34:06,560
time to match the new general plan as

3870
02:34:06,560 --> 02:34:07,680
we're going through the process

3871
02:34:07,680 --> 02:34:10,240
>> but the R3 I mean our zoning in of

3872
02:34:10,240 --> 02:34:12,080
itself doesn't get changed with the

3873
02:34:12,080 --> 02:34:14,560
general plan I mean we we have the

3874
02:34:14,560 --> 02:34:16,960
general plan we have right now suggests

3875
02:34:16,960 --> 02:34:18,960
different zones that We don't have

3876
02:34:18,960 --> 02:34:21,120
because even in three years we haven't

3877
02:34:21,120 --> 02:34:23,840
enacted the zones that the general plan

3878
02:34:23,840 --> 02:34:25,760
calls out.

3879
02:34:25,760 --> 02:34:26,800
>> So

3880
02:34:26,800 --> 02:34:29,359
>> yes, but we will be updating some of

3881
02:34:29,359 --> 02:34:31,359
these zones

3882
02:34:31,359 --> 02:34:32,000
>> right

3883
02:34:32,000 --> 02:34:33,760
>> to match what we're doing with maps and

3884
02:34:33,760 --> 02:34:35,120
those kind of things as we go through

3885
02:34:35,120 --> 02:34:35,920
this process.

3886
02:34:35,920 --> 02:34:38,000
>> But the actual zone itself also

3887
02:34:38,000 --> 02:34:39,120
>> needs

3888
02:34:39,120 --> 02:34:41,359
>> looking at and if they would continue

3889
02:34:41,359 --> 02:34:43,439
the discussion that was started over a

3890
02:34:43,439 --> 02:34:45,520
year ago would be nice.

3891
02:34:45,520 --> 02:34:46,640
>> Thank you. I got it.

3892
02:34:46,640 --> 02:34:48,880
>> I thank you. Anything else council in

3893
02:34:48,880 --> 02:34:50,880
the on number nine?

3894
02:34:50,880 --> 02:34:53,040
>> Um, we had already asked the planning

3895
02:34:53,040 --> 02:34:55,200
commission to also look at the MIH

3896
02:34:55,200 --> 02:34:57,520
strategies and make a recommendation. I

3897
02:34:57,520 --> 02:34:59,200
assume that that's still on their future

3898
02:34:59,200 --> 02:35:01,280
agenda to do that.

3899
02:35:01,280 --> 02:35:03,600
>> That is uh we should have some of those

3900
02:35:03,600 --> 02:35:05,600
for the next council meeting. Perfect. I

3901
02:35:05,600 --> 02:35:08,160
think one of the things that that I

3902
02:35:08,160 --> 02:35:10,080
think that the planning commission is we

3903
02:35:10,080 --> 02:35:12,319
ask them for those recommendations that

3904
02:35:12,319 --> 02:35:14,319
are is a little tricky is the planning

3905
02:35:14,319 --> 02:35:17,200
commission doesn't deal with the budget

3906
02:35:17,200 --> 02:35:21,520
of the city. And so if the city if if we

3907
02:35:21,520 --> 02:35:24,080
said one of our strategies might be that

3908
02:35:24,080 --> 02:35:27,920
we would like to take and uh take money

3909
02:35:27,920 --> 02:35:30,160
from uh you know percentage or something

3910
02:35:30,160 --> 02:35:33,680
from our property taxes and uh

3911
02:35:33,680 --> 02:35:35,520
potentially

3912
02:35:35,520 --> 02:35:38,640
uh supplement rent down at Orchard Farms

3913
02:35:38,640 --> 02:35:40,800
for maybe three units for for first

3914
02:35:40,800 --> 02:35:43,200
responders or something like that. Um,

3915
02:35:43,200 --> 02:35:45,040
that's something and I'm not sure how

3916
02:35:45,040 --> 02:35:46,800
that works because it's not a land use

3917
02:35:46,800 --> 02:35:49,840
thing, but does it have to come from the

3918
02:35:49,840 --> 02:35:51,920
planning commission or is that something

3919
02:35:51,920 --> 02:35:54,240
the council can just say, hey, this is

3920
02:35:54,240 --> 02:35:56,560
one of the MIH strategies that we would

3921
02:35:56,560 --> 02:35:58,560
like to discuss?

3922
02:35:58,560 --> 02:36:03,040
>> How how do we how do we go there?

3923
02:36:03,040 --> 02:36:05,280
>> So, the direction from the the council

3924
02:36:05,280 --> 02:36:06,720
was to go through all of them for the

3925
02:36:06,720 --> 02:36:08,800
planning commission. They they've been

3926
02:36:08,800 --> 02:36:11,760
doing that. Um they do have a list that

3927
02:36:11,760 --> 02:36:15,439
they talked about. Um the ones that had

3928
02:36:15,439 --> 02:36:17,760
to do with finance, um they recognize

3929
02:36:17,760 --> 02:36:22,319
that's a council decision. That's not a planning commission decision to say,

3930
02:36:22,319 --> 02:36:24,240
"Yeah, let's take taxpayers money and

3931
02:36:24,240 --> 02:36:26,479
say this is a good one to do." Um that

3932
02:36:26,479 --> 02:36:29,760
is actually a council one to to put

3933
02:36:29,760 --> 02:36:32,560
those ones in. So that is something that

3934
02:36:32,560 --> 02:36:34,560
um they'll they'll bring the ones that

3935
02:36:34,560 --> 02:36:37,439
they feel really comfortable with um and

3936
02:36:37,439 --> 02:36:40,160
recommend them. you can add or you you

3937
02:36:40,160 --> 02:36:42,160
may look at the ones they have and say

3938
02:36:42,160 --> 02:36:43,600
I'm not sure I like this one or this one

3939
02:36:43,600 --> 02:36:46,080
and throw those out too. Um that's part

3940
02:36:46,080 --> 02:36:48,080
of your responsibility as a legislative

3941
02:36:48,080 --> 02:36:51,840
body is to be able to use city funds

3942
02:36:51,840 --> 02:36:55,760
>> um to fulfill those things. That's just

3943
02:36:55,760 --> 02:36:57,120
a recommendation that will be coming

3944
02:36:57,120 --> 02:36:58,399
from the planning commission after

3945
02:36:58,399 --> 02:37:00,240
they've reviewed the ones they've gone

3946
02:37:00,240 --> 02:37:00,800
through.

3947
02:37:00,800 --> 02:37:04,790
>> Thank you, Darren.

3948
02:37:04,800 --> 02:37:08,319
» Um okay, 10 calendar items. August 25th

3949
02:37:08,319 --> 02:37:11,040
uh is our next speaking of them planning

3950
02:37:11,040 --> 02:37:13,439
commission meeting. September 1st is the

3951
02:37:13,439 --> 02:37:16,880
next city council meeting. We do not um

3952
02:37:16,880 --> 02:37:18,319
have a closed session planned for

3953
02:37:18,319 --> 02:37:20,000
tonight. So I would look for a motion to

3954
02:37:20,000 --> 02:37:20,640
adjurnn.

3955
02:37:20,640 --> 02:37:21,680
>> Motion to adjurnn.

3956
02:37:21,680 --> 02:37:24,160
>> Motion from Blake. Do I have a second?

3957
02:37:24,160 --> 02:37:24,720
>> Second.

3958
02:37:24,720 --> 02:37:27,359
from Gary. All in favor say yes.

3959
02:37:27,359 --> 02:37:27,920
>> Yes.

3960
02:37:27,920 --> 02:37:31,600
No.