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I don't want to lose that penny but I
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revenue.

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That's the charity benefit for them.

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» I thought about

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» I don't know what else I'm supposed to
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» I mean,
it's made about $15,000

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» since I don't remember what year
>> for 3 years.

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» Three years.
>> I mean, still on Thursday morning.

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» Better than nothing.

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» Can we start 3 minutes early?
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» Thursday morning.
>> Yeah.

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» Um I have a meeting at the school at
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» Starts at 5:30 and they might
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at 9:00.
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» How long is that going to take?
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» live on here.
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» Construction last week that I didn't
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or something

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or something in the spring.

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Can I ask you a question?
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maybe depends on time.
>> Yeah. Yeah.

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Oh,
>> you have economic development in here.

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» It's the last page. That's what I
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» The last page is this.

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» Yeah. Just in case something else.
>> No discussion.

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There's a reason we're building

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this thing.

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You can if you want to

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shut it off

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right now.

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Call to order the council meeting for
the city of Falton.

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» Roll call please toward yourself.
>> Mayor Malone

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» here.
>> Older person

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» here.
>> Here

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» King
>> here.

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» Mask
>> here. Ratcliffe

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» here.
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» here.
>> Benamp

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» here.
[clears throat]

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» Uh join me in the pledge please.

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To the flag of the United States of
America [clears throat] and to the

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republic for which it stands. One nation
under God, indivisible, with liberty and

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justice for all.

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» Uh, communication.
Ted is here. Ted James. Yes.

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» Floor is yours, sir.
>> Thank you.

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[clears throat]
>> Just stopped by to give you an update on

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a few projects we're working on for the
city. Um, first one is I've been working

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with Jimmy Pel and Logan down at
Heritage Canyon. We're trying to get a

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fishing spot down there built. And
Logan's working to see if he can get me

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some more material. We're kind of just
patiently. So hopefully here shortly

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we'll have at least a walk ramp. Little
crude probably, but at least it'll be

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there so kids and stuff can go fishing
because it's nothing cooler than

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watching kids come down, especially this
past summer. There was a group of six

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down there one time all backpack up.
They sat there all day. It was just neat

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to watch. So, it's a neat thing on their
bicycles, so it was cool. And they

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weren't meth methheads. So, um that was
kind of nice. Second thing is, um it

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looks pretty promising. You probably
heard some of the rumors and they are

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true crumpets. should be opened up by
the 25th of August is the plan right

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now. Now, we don't have everything
signed yet, but right now I think we're

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about 98% sure that it's a done deal.
So, every all the players in there,

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Larry, Russell, myself, Dan, Joselyn is
the person that has purchased it have

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really worked hard and it's been a it's
a miracle on ice, you know. It's like

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one of those 1984 Olympics type thing,
you know. So, it's coming together.

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We'll see what happens. But with a
little luck, I think we got it planned.

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It's very um very hybrid. We'll just
call it that for right now. But it's

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coming together. So, uh let's
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» She is and she is the crumpets. And
she'll be a manager. She'll be the

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person that's the face and everything
that's going to be there. I'm putting it

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out there. And um unless something
catastrophic falls apart, I'm not

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saying, you know, there's nothing
guarantee, but she's going to be that

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person. She worked with Renee for 10
years, 12 years. So, she's she knows

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Renee will probably come back and help
some, too. It's family. It'll be more

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like It'll be like crumpets. That's what
it'll be like. So, it'll be pretty

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exciting, actually.
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» Uh Dave Vogle told me once about 20
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work on any more than three things. So,
we're still working on the marina

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project. I still have some good leads on
that yet. Um I put a phone call in again

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today trying to catch the person. He was
traveling on vacation for the last

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couple weeks. He had ragbry showing up
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Again, we don't know. There's no
promises, but it is progressing. And my

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goal is by the end of September, higher
hell or higher water, get this out of

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the management of the city. Nothing
against the city. I'm not bashing that,

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but just so that somebody will take it,
run with it, build it up. I mean,

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there's potentials. I've heard people
I've talked to already would like to,

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you know, put even hotel in. There's a
lot of stuff. I mean, it's it'll be at a

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totally different scale if the kind of
people that we're trying to get to are

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going to take it over. And just so you
know, and my my I got to protect the

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city because I'm working for the city,
too, on this one behind the scenes,

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obviously. But, you know, we don't want
to give everything away. We're not going

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to make extra promises. We got to get
your money back. So, that you're clear

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on that as a city council. Understand
that. I know that you got investments

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and I really don't want us to ever see
us sell it. I think it'll be more

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beneficial to keep it. I've talked to
Eric about that, you know, in the past

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here, too. So, that lease, long-term
lease would be the way to do it. You

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won't own the equipment. And then we'll
make some stipulations, but it'll be in

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their ball court of how it gets done cuz
And then we'll work those out. And then

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when it comes together, cuz it has to
come together. We can't just let it sit

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there. So, it's going to happen some
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I'm sure it will. You guys will get to
make final decisions on what gets done.

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Just remember that. So, in case that's
unclear, it always comes back to the

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city. And if we got a good deal on the
plate, I hope you see it too and and we

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figure out a way to do it. It just it'll
be a communication thing. That's all

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we're trying to do. Last thing is that's
my fourth thing. I see we didn't get

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city started in downtown yet. So, just
keep that in mind. We're trying to get a

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business coming to town here in 3 weeks.
Let's make sure we're helping make it

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right for this heartbeat of the town.
Crumpets is the heartbeat of the town,

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guys. So, we have to make sure that we
keep that going and open. I don't know

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what you know, I see it's behind
schedule today. So just they're not due

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to start until Wednesday.
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to show up today according to your
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» Yeah, they said they were going to do
that the same day.

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» I know, but everybody everybody's
already talking on the back say, "Hey,

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we're already a day behind." No,
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everybody in communication on Facebook
because I think we do a better job of on

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your web page or Facebook, too. But
that's it. Sorry. Thanks, guys.

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» Thank you.
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» Perfect. Have a great night.
>> See you later. All

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right. Next is the uh consent agenda.
All items on the consent agenda will be

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acted by a single motion and roll call
vote. Any item may be removed upon

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request by the mayor or any alderman and
considered individually after all other

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items of business on the consent agenda.
We have u approved the regular meeting

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minutes from July 27 city council
meeting. Approve the bill list and

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approve the treasury report dated June
30, 2026. Motion, please.

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» So moved.
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» Thank you.
>> I have a question.

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» Go ahead.
>> There was a on the meeting minutes

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there's on page four
the fifth from the bay bottom. It says

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on roll call all yes. Alder persons
Bonstra and Ratcliffe were absent. Let's

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put the P me.
that question. Thank you.

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» I had a question on the minutes. Um I
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we obviously did not record or broadcast
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happen to audio record that one, Tori?
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» you did. Okay. Um, specifically with
that then I would just add um about

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halfway down on the first page um or
page three as noted. Um you know we were

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talking about the um the compensation
res resolution and there was a lot of

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discussion that was held on that um and
we actually took it took the table off

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and then reinserted it for this meeting.
So there was discussion held on. I feel

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like there's some substance that's
missed there. Um, what that was, I

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didn't record the meeting, so I don't I
don't really have a lot to add other

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than we had discussion on it. We agreed
to take some parts off of the resolution

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as it was drafted at that point and then
come back to this meeting to have a vote

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on it. So, I would like to have that
inserted in some degree.

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» Listen. Thank you.

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on the
bill list says Peterson Sanitary 900

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$95
for some cent.

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What was that for? It's the standard
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» for 9. We pay $95 a year or a month.

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What what portable toilets do we have?
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» I know we had a couple down at
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that?
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» One at the canyon that's supposed to
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and got it. The crafters take care of
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So, we're paying $95
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for three toilets.
I think there's four. Is there four or

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three?
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Peterson, but then the marina has, but
they also maintain that one as well.

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» So, so there's four toilets and we're
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» have to get the invoice.
It's a good call out. That's like

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$10,000 a year.
>> Like I can see if we if that included

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our special projects in included in
there and we had that but I know that

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that's extra.
>> I just wonder cuz 95

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» for four toilets.
>> Look at the invoice.

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» Okay.
>> I know we have it cuz I looked at it.

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But yeah,
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that much.
>> Okay.

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» That's why I'm wondering. I know the
invoice lists where they are

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» and we did have some the night of the um
celebration for the 250 but they were

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the been there just for the day.
>> Who's paying for those?

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» I think we had some

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toilets come in for that day.
>> Yeah, I think there's two of them

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without night.
>> That wasn't on that bill.

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» I don't I don't think
>> Why are we paying for those?

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» I don't think that's on this bill.
That's not on this bill. [clears throat]

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» I do not. I don't think so. Okay.
>> I'm just wondering why

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» I'll double check.
>> That's on the city bill

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when it should be your bill.
>> I don't remember the city saying they're

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paying for toilets

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for that.
>> You want me to pay for it? Okay.

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» No, I have to I'll look at the invoice.
We can either

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» please do
>> um we'll have it for the next packet.

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» All right. Thank you.
>> I have a question on

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uh six about halfway down Ferguson

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Waterworks. So I keep on seeing like
pipes um reoccurring month over month.

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Um and I assume that we don't pay for
pipes for any of the projects that we

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do. So, are we going through that much
repair [clears throat] that we need to

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be purchasing this much pipe?
>> That's for water meters. You have a Mach

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10 meters.
>> Okay.

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» Yeah. [clears throat]
>> So, are we replacing how many water

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meters? How many water meters is that
for I don't know 14,000?

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» I said it was 30 about $350 a piece.
>> Okay. And we're we're putting that many

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in a month or
>> Oh, yeah.

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» Yeah. Okay. I was worried
>> cuz we and I don't remember exactly the

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year. Um somewhere between 2006 and 2010
I think is when my split put into my

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house back when they went into the
automated.

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» I think that's the original one. I don't
think it's ever come anybody's ever come

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to replace it.
>> Right. Yeah. We we went through a batch

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of the first batch of meters that
started to go bad.

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» M
>> and [clears throat] when I was still in

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public works we were ordering 200 a
year.

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» Okay.
So 350 time 40 is that give or take?

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» I don't know exactly what you want.
>> I want to say it was around 30, but I

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can confirm that [clears throat]
>> please and you can send an email uh to

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me if you want and or to the group. Um
the next one was the Sherman Williams. I

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don't know who to ask on this one. Page
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» laser lane.
>> Yeah, lime laser ees 80 8300. That was

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the new paint sprayer
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» We do that.
>> Yeah.

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» For where?
>> Downtown uh 12 street crosswalks.

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» Okay. So, that's not part of our project
bid for them to re redo the lines after

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we're
>> This is just for us to have one. Ours

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ours the motor on ours shelled out last
year and we ended up having to pay a

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company to come in to restripe for us
because we didn't have a way to stripe

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it. So we built it into the budget to
have a new line striper so we can stripe

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instead of having to pay a company to do
it. But there is a

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um contract within the pavement for
somebody to stripe downtown for the

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initial striping.
>> Okay. So

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» then we use that to maintain.
>> Gotcha. So just so I understand when

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we're done with the the concrete work
down there, they're going to lay down

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stripe and parking for us, right?
Because we are still going to one way

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unless we change our minds. Okay. I just
want to make sure

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» I understand what's going on there. Um,
and then I know um Alli's not here, but

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uh the very last one uh for the audit um
I would just ask uh Eric if you can make

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a note especially for our finance
meeting if that's payment one of two.

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» Yeah. Um, I I believe that's how it
broke down last year, but I would like

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to verify.

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» Anyone else?
>> I have a question on uh six a payroll

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garbage $2,391.
We paid that out.

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» It was payroll deduction from employee.
Yeah.

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» Oh, okay.

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So, it was just a pass through for us.
>> Yep.

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» Anyone else? [clears throat] Radar
certification

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annual annual.
That's what I thought, but I wanted to

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make sure.
Thank you.

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» [snorts]

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» Uh, roll call please. Tori
>> Bstster.

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» Yes.
>> Yes.

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» Yes.
>> Yes.

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» Bass.
>> Yes. Redcliff.

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» Yes.
>> S.

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» Yes.
>> Camp.

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» Yes.

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» All right. Next. Uh, current business.
We have motion to approve and vote on a

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special ordinance to grant a special use
permit

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for real estate having the assigned
address of 11:15 Fort Street in the city

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of Fton, Illinois for Cara Serest.
>> Serest

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» Serest uh DBA lash and a Serest
Properties LLC to allow for a tattoo

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artist to operate on the premises. Page
16. I second.

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Uh, any discussion on this one?
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She is here if anyone has any questions
before we go.

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» I'd just like to thank Adam uh
[clears throat] for your notes in here

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and uh really gave me a lot to uh read
and go off of. So, thank you. And then

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I've been updated from everybody else
while I was gone. So, I know I wasn't

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here for when your initial presentation
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else?

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Roll call, please. Tori
>> person. Brack.

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» Yes.
>> King.

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» Yes.
>> Yes.

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» Mask.
>> Yes.

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» Ratcliff.
>> Yes.

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» S.
>> Yes.

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» And
>> yes.

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» Yes.
>> Motion carried.

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» Congratulations.
>> Yay. Thank you. [laughter] Thank you

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guys. I have to go. My kids have
unpacked the backpack in like 15

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minutes.
>> Welcome.

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» When's your start date?
>> Um, we have to get the area set

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correctly um before I can submit the
floor plan to um the health department

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» and then it has to be approved.
>> Yep.

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» So,
>> so soon hopefully. Yeah, very soon.

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» Yes. Good luck with all that.
>> Thank you.

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» Thank you guys.
>> All right. Next, we have a motion to

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approve and vote on the MSA Fulton
comprehensive plan. Motion, please.

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» So, move.
>> Second. [clears throat]

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» Support.
>> Discussion.

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» Yes. Um, I'm wondering if we could um
take a couple more weeks to look at it.

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Um, whenever I'm going to vote on
something, I like to make sure I read

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all the words. Um, and I did, and it
took me just under seven hours to read

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one of them.
Uh there's a tremendous amount of data

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in this and I think it would be in our
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Um on the letter that Emily sent to
Eric, she said there are two plans and

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she is asking us to review it. She said
have you review this? So I think that's

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important that we do that. Um, and that,
um,

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yeah. Uh, she also said that she gave a
letter. Eric, I came in a couple times

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today asking you. I don't know where
where that is. I couldn't find that.

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» She gave you a what?
>> There was she in this letter, she said,

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I've added um some additional
information, but I couldn't find that.

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» Uh, it was some of the things in the
open house um that they had noted like

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um
>> so did she made the correction in the

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comprehensive plans. Well, I looked and
looked far.

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» There was a
>> like the map with the

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» Yeah, something was with something was
labeled as farmland that wasn't uh it

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was some minor things that we had
noticed during the open house.

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» I think it'd be helpful for everybody
though to get to know what happened at

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the public hearing because there were
only a couple of us here.

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» I can ask if she took minutes during
that. I don't know if she did or not.

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» That would be really helpful because so
many people were talking [clears throat]

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to different different ones. Um, so I
think everybody would appreciate knowing

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what happened with that if we could, but
I'm suggesting I would like to read the

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other one before we pull.
>> I would also back Barb's comments in

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that this [clears throat] I think one
was 60 some pages and the other one was

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80
>> 80 some pages. Um, you know, I like to

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have it printed out um so I can make
notes on the paper, but um we did not

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have that availability um for this. So,
I'm going off making notes individually.

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Um, there's also some dis what I would
view as question marks or things I'd

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want to question on priorities versus
what was shown on the survey towards the

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end of the strategic um plan. So, I want
to reconcile those um statements, maybe

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ask questions back to MSA or Eric on
those because when we agreed to fund

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this these studies, you know, we said at
that time, you know, if we're going to

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spend 55,000 on it, this is going to be
our short-term and our long-term plan

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for the city, and we're going to execute
based on what this plan shows us. So

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before I commit to saying this is our
guidelines moving forward, I'd rather

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I'd rather have a chance to review in
more depth and ask additional questions.

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So I would like to make a motion to
table this um for um after further

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discussion for another two weeks.
>> I support that. Would it make sense for

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us to have a special meeting prior to a
council meeting and have MSA here to ask

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questions and maybe
>> I would agree with that, Wendy, now that

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I've been through this these 63 pages,
there's just a lot of questions to ask.

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» But isn't this what we already
discussed?

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» Well, we don't understand how to execute
it. Like I understand this is a fluid

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document and the goal is is that it's
not set in stone over the next 15, 20

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years. We're going to move it and adjust
to it as we need to. But I think we need

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to understand like Zach said what our
initial priorities are and that we're

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all on the same page with that um in
regards to the feedback we got. And I

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just have some general questions for
them too like um response rate. You

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know, I noticed they they said it was a
good response rate. If you look at

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response rate based on our census
numbers versus um the responses got to

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mean we're less than 20%. And in most
statistical things, you'll find if you

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get a less than 20% response rate isn't
really the data you should be going off

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of. But if you look at it from a
household perspective to the number of

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people in the town, you know, [snorts]
or number of responses, excuse me, then

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it's a little bit more, you know, giving
as far as the number of people. So, I

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don't know, just some questions like
that and determining if we agree with

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where the priorities went.
I mean I I guess to answer that I would

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say those priorities were set in the
workshops that we had. So that's where

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the priorities came from. I mean it's
not like MSA just took them and they

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prioritized them. Um that that all came
from our workshops and we said hey this

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is how we want to prioritize XYZ. So I
mean this is nothing like MSA just took

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it and said hey I think this needs to be
your priority. So if if there's other if

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there's things we want to change,
>> this is this is why we're bringing it

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forward. So if there's things we want to
change, we can change them now become

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before this becomes a final document.
>> Sure.

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» And she does she does say that also that
if anything we want to change, we do

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that.
>> Because as I was reading through it, it

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was very clear the time frame that we
were working on it within. It was when

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we were adjusting all of our um
management within the city. It was at a

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time when the downtown construction was
just kicking off and things were

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uncertain. So I think there's some
things in there that could be adjusted

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that would be more just now whereas we
were kind of in a time of unknown then.

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So that's just my thought. But
>> it's just a wealth of information. It's

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really really exciting to read just
really there's just a lot of

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» I mean if you guys would likely to come
back and we can make go through this one

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more time as a whole
we can do that. I just I mean I just

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need to know for sure if that's what we
want to do.

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» One thing I'd like to ask her is if she
could give us some guidelines about how

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other cities do this as far as
structuring going forward.

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Do they do they add onto their council
meetings? Do they have a special I mean

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we know we knew when we did this this is
going to take this is a huge amount. We

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all agree this is a huge a time
commitment and it goes on for a very

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long time. So, I thought it would be
helpful if she could come back and say,

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"This is what other communities have
done. Yes, they set a special night just

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to talk about this rather than adding it
on to our council meeting." And I

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thought that would be helpful as I read
through this. I wonder how other people

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really move this process forward. I know
I know Silvis is going through a

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comprehensive plan right now and they
just had their open house for community

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feedback and and whatnot, but um I mean
I can ask to see

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» if she could share that.
>> Yeah, if she has any recommendations or

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you know she you know but if you guys
would like her to come here I mean I

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just need to know so I can get that
lined up sooner than later. I would like

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to now that I've read one and I really
need a little space here before I read

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the other one. I thought I would get too
convoluted with it. So I needed

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just shy for me of seven hours to read
it. And I did come in and get a paper

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copy because I knew I wanted to make
notes on it and I found that to be

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extremely helpful to be able to do that.
But it's going to be it's going to be

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fun, I think.
Any other discussion?

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All right, we have a motion from
Zach to table and a second from

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[clears throat] Barb. So, we will vote
to table this item.

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» Roll call to
other person. Hoffman,

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» good.
>> Bass,

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» yes. Bradford,
>> yes.

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» Soul,
>> yes.

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» No.
>> Yes.

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» Yes.
>> No.

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» All right. Next, we have motion to
approve and vote on the MSA Fulton

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strategic plan final draft. Motion,
please.

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» Doesn't that go hand in hand?
>> Yeah.

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» Oh, there's two different items. They're
two different places.

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» I'll make the motion to table that.
>> Well, we have to open it first.

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» We don't even have to open it.
>> Well, [clears throat] guess it drops

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off, but
>> if you don't open it, it'll drop off.

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Yeah. So,
>> I'm hearing no motion then.

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[snorts]
>> I'll make the motion. You mean to

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approve this one item? That's
>> No. To open it for discussion.

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» Do we need to do that?
>> No.

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If if if there's no motion, then it
doesn't get talked about and it just

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» will it reoccur on the next.
>> We can always add to the agenda.

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» It doesn't automatically just disappear.
>> No, but it can [laughter]

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» I want to raise the
>> technically you could

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go and do it again.
>> Go on the next agenda for a vote. If

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we're having Emily come and we can make
changes, it'll just be up there for

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discussion,
not the vote. [clears throat]

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» But we will as a group have a chance to
talk about.

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» All right. Next, uh committee is a whole
discussion.

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So, there's been some discussion with
the construction about um compensation

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for some business owners downtown. If
anyone has any ideas, anyone?

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Well, we discussed in the economic
development of maybe having

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um like a business after five and giving
each business owner from the city $100

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to furnish the drinks and that bring
people in.

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» What? business of the day. Business of
the week type of deal.

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» Yep.
Downtown.

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» Oh. So, [clears throat]
uh, East Debuke with the bridge closure

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that they just went through. Um, they
had paid the advertising during the

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construction that they had. Um, they
paid for the advertising for the

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businesses that wanted it, um, as a way
to try and help.

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» Oh, that's a good,
>> you know, during during that time. Um,

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some communities have done um like a
one-time

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uh grant is what I'll call it. Um, you
know, if you can prove you had uh loss

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of business between last year
construction, this year construction,

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[clears throat] um, and then it's, you
know, taken to whoever we decide to, you

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know, bring it in front of, uh, to make
the decision of, you know, who gets the

421
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money and how much and, you know, things
along that side. Um, so there's there's

422
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:25,200
a couple different options out there of
how other communities have done it. Uh,

423
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:30,480
you know,
there have been talk of, you know,

424
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:34,000
possible property tax reimbursement, but
the only problem with that is a lot of

425
00:31:32,399 --> 00:31:39,279
these aren't owned by the business
owners, so they don't really see the

426
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:42,000
direct um effect of that. Um, the actual
property owner would, but the business

427
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:46,799
owner wouldn't [clears throat] see any
relief from that. So, there's some

428
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:49,840
options out there. You know, which one
is the right one? I I guess I don't

429
00:31:48,559 --> 00:31:54,000
necessarily have the right answer for
that, but I just I kind of wanted to see

430
00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:56,559
what the council had, if anything, if
they wanted to try and do it to to help

431
00:31:56,000 --> 00:32:00,559
out.
>> I think whatever we do, the gesture

432
00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:03,679
would be appreciated. And I had also
suggested just waving their water bill

433
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:06,159
for a year, but I don't know how many
dollars that would affect us

434
00:32:05,360 --> 00:32:09,840
» for a year.
>> No, excuse me.

435
00:32:07,120 --> 00:32:14,399
» Okay. I mean most the only one that
would really see a direct benefit to

436
00:32:11,519 --> 00:32:18,159
that would be Dr. Leos, you know, for
washing dishes and and Johnny's would

437
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:22,960
see a bit of Well, I guess now crumpets
and when they open, those would be the

438
00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:28,640
ones that would really see a benefit.
But I think if you had like a choice,

439
00:32:25,600 --> 00:32:34,399
you know, like what what Sue was saying,
you know, um $100 do like an after hours

440
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:38,720
like just for example, say, you know,
the flower shop or Rooted or something

441
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:44,559
like that. They that would bring people
in. But like stuff for like my business,

442
00:32:41,919 --> 00:32:48,720
the advertising would be would be more
beneficial. I mean, last year's my

443
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:51,840
people couldn't get down there, so I
just had to make lots of trips to other

444
00:32:50,399 --> 00:32:58,000
people's houses,
>> you know. Um, was it frustrating? Yes,

445
00:32:54,720 --> 00:33:02,480
it was. But that for me would have been
better for an advertising aspect. So,

446
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:06,000
you have a couple choices.
>> So, we could set a dollar amount and

447
00:33:04,080 --> 00:33:09,120
that business could choose which one
would benefit the most.

448
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,440
» Any idea what
cost of that advertisement was in East

449
00:33:10,880 --> 00:33:17,679
Debuke.
>> I think they put it $5,000 and that was

450
00:33:16,159 --> 00:33:22,080
for
whatever their construction duration

451
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:25,360
was. I And I'm not sure how long it was
like on that one.

452
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:30,480
» Yeah. Yeah. So they and I don't know
exactly how many businesses if it was

453
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:34,720
open for everybody in in East Debuke or
if it was just like certain locations

454
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:40,240
that I I'd have to dig into a little bit
more but um it's something you know

455
00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:48,360
we're shows we're trying to help them
and and do what we can to help them out

456
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:48,360
legal issues any

457
00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:53,840
especially if it's just select
businesses. I do.

458
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:58,000
» I I think if you if you're going to do
something that's got problem but for

459
00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:03,679
every business has affected
>> I would say every business between 13th

460
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:06,480
Avenue and 9th so just just a
hypothetical is Manny's Manny's

461
00:34:05,588 --> 00:34:09,520
[clears throat]
affected

462
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:13,440
right
>> I mean you decided

463
00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:16,480
» I would I'm just throwing it out there
as an example

464
00:34:14,240 --> 00:34:20,240
» I mean I guess I would say
>> I would say no because there's they

465
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:26,000
still have parking that could be
utilized by everybody all around there.

466
00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:30,240
» Um, I would say they would probably not
be affected by this.

467
00:34:28,399 --> 00:34:33,440
» Why don't we have the council people
think about it and write down their

468
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:39,159
suggestions and bring it to the next
meeting so we can get some ideas?

469
00:34:35,679 --> 00:34:39,159
» Starting Wednesday.

470
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:43,520
» Well, it could still be afterwards. It
doesn't have to.

471
00:34:42,639 --> 00:34:46,159
» Yeah.
>> Yeah.

472
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,960
» Was this brought up at the meeting when
you met with the businesses or just

473
00:34:47,440 --> 00:34:52,240
something surfaced? This was just
something I I me and Shane had talked

474
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:56,720
about, you know, what can we do? And
then after after hearing [clears throat]

475
00:34:54,240 --> 00:35:00,480
what East Debuke did, um I thought
maybe, you know, we should try it off or

476
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:03,040
something.
>> Can I can I ask one thing real quick?

477
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:08,079
» Yep.
>> With the closure, can we make sure that

478
00:35:05,839 --> 00:35:11,560
the alley does not get blocked off over
by my place?

479
00:35:11,599 --> 00:35:17,359
» No. I mean, they're going to have to
block the alleyway.

480
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:21,280
» No, I meant like delivery trucks and
stuff. there. You mean

481
00:35:18,720 --> 00:35:26,079
» like the other side you can't even get
in because like the delivery trucks and

482
00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:29,920
everything will be blocking everything.
That was like frustrating. You couldn't

483
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:35,440
even get back through there. The front
side was blocked. So was the back side.

484
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:40,000
» Does that make sense?
>> Yeah. Um

485
00:35:37,839 --> 00:35:44,079
» like where the laundromat was, you have
delivery trucks and everything.

486
00:35:41,359 --> 00:35:47,040
» Like are you having like time parking if
there's delivery? like you can only be

487
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:51,040
there for
>> like are you are you wanting Don Gulios

488
00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:54,880
to not have their delivery trucks go
through the alleyway and have them stay

489
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:58,160
like on 11th or 12th the other
>> I don't know what the answer is but I

490
00:35:56,720 --> 00:36:02,480
have one gentleman that insists on
coming down and he is handicapped and it

491
00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:07,839
was very difficult and I also have
another person she's um physically

492
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:12,720
handicapped and she comes down and I
mean I guess I can just tell him just

493
00:36:09,359 --> 00:36:16,240
don't come down during that time
>> there's just no place to park that's

494
00:36:14,079 --> 00:36:20,800
what I'm saying
How long were they there, C? How long

495
00:36:18,240 --> 00:36:23,359
did they park there?
>> Sometimes they're in there for over an

496
00:36:22,160 --> 00:36:28,079
hour.
>> Again, it is what [clears throat] it is.

497
00:36:26,320 --> 00:36:32,160
And I'll just I'll deal. Don't worry.
I'll just let them know and I'll just

498
00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:36,800
tell them not to come down.
>> Independent of what we do or don't do

499
00:36:34,560 --> 00:36:41,200
for the individual businesses. I'm I'm a
strong proponent of that advertising

500
00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:47,200
that you mentioned, whether that be, you
know, uh a paid advertisement on social

501
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:50,800
media or um a large advertisement on
Facebook that downtown's still open with

502
00:36:49,359 --> 00:36:56,000
a map of our downtown and how we're
going to be routing traffic uh for this

503
00:36:52,960 --> 00:37:00,000
next well, we'll say 3 months or so. Um
so, if that's in the budget, I would

504
00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:02,800
just say go ahead and do that. I don't
think you need a council approval to do

505
00:37:01,599 --> 00:37:06,800
what's already in budget as far as
advertising.

506
00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:11,040
Um, which actually kind of leads into a
question I had is where are we at in

507
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:14,960
terms of a marketing [clears throat]
director replacement?

508
00:37:13,119 --> 00:37:20,960
» We're still working through that right
now and trying to get what we

509
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:24,160
specifically need. So,
>> so do we have

510
00:37:21,839 --> 00:37:28,640
» where I was going with that is is that's
who what I would point that question to,

511
00:37:26,240 --> 00:37:31,680
but now it's back to you, Eric.
[laughter]

512
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:34,240
» Personnel is working on it.
>> What's that?

513
00:37:32,240 --> 00:37:38,079
» Personnel is working on it. We're trying
to get the job description to align with

514
00:37:35,839 --> 00:37:40,880
the actual duties needed
>> so that we can hire appropriately and

515
00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:44,800
not have
>> Yeah, I didn't I don't want to hire just

516
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:49,040
to hire. I want to have [snorts]
>> I totally agree with that. I just

517
00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:54,400
» you know this is like one of those tasks
that a person like that would really

518
00:37:51,839 --> 00:37:59,599
» put it on chain too. Okay.
>> He's our social media person.

519
00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:00,720
» Chain's actually pretty good. Tourist
donut.

520
00:38:00,079 --> 00:38:04,240
» Tourist.
>> Tourist.

521
00:38:02,240 --> 00:38:04,240
All

522
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:12,400
right, I have some ideas. Um,
>> yeah.

523
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:16,480
» Uh, next topic is um the deer
population. Eric got a call about some

524
00:38:15,200 --> 00:38:22,000
deer.
>> So, um, as most people know, the North

525
00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:27,520
End has always had a healthy deer
population. Um, very true to this day

526
00:38:25,359 --> 00:38:31,520
still. Um,
it was brought to me to see if there was

527
00:38:29,760 --> 00:38:37,200
anything that could be done to maybe
thin out the population in the north

528
00:38:33,839 --> 00:38:42,880
end. Um,
it's one of those that I mean it doesn't

529
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:47,040
affect everybody, but some people it
does affect with their gardens and their

530
00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:53,280
yards. And um so I just said I would
bring it to the council to see if

531
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:57,520
we still want to pursue this through DNR
like through a

532
00:38:55,599 --> 00:39:01,839
uh DNR has a couple different programs
that they have out there. But um without

533
00:38:59,920 --> 00:39:06,320
knowing what the council really you know
the council says no we we don't have an

534
00:39:04,400 --> 00:39:12,000
issue with the deer then you know let's
not do anything. But uh um I know Brock

535
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:16,160
Island they did a controlled hunt. Um
only so many deer were allowed to be

536
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:23,119
taken and it had to be in a certain part
of town. Um so that that's an option. Um

537
00:39:21,359 --> 00:39:27,599
unfortunately we don't really have any
land up there. So we would have to talk

538
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:33,520
to land owners to see if anybody would
even allow us to do that. Um and I don't

539
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:38,240
even know that that's an option. So you
know just throwing it out there. see

540
00:39:36,160 --> 00:39:41,520
what we can do and or if there's
anything we can do at this point.

541
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:45,680
» How many people called?
>> Uh I've talked to three or four people.

542
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:49,280
I mean there there's not an
overabundance but they just is they just

543
00:39:48,079 --> 00:39:52,720
asked the question is there anything
that can be done south too. They're on

544
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:56,480
11th heaven.
>> Oh they're in

545
00:39:53,520 --> 00:40:02,567
» they're by me.
They're right in my heart.

546
00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:03,920
I have one. I don't do babies.
[clears throat]

547
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:08,160
» And they
>> It's the first time I've ever seen one.

548
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:11,359
» They are very tame deer. They I mean
they will come right up to you and

549
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:15,599
practically eat out of your hand if you
really want. I'm not

550
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:19,760
» I'm not advocating that. Please don't do
that because that only makes the problem

551
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:24,240
worse. Um but
it's just the question was was posed to

552
00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:27,040
me and I said, "Well, I will see what
the council thinks."

553
00:40:26,802 --> 00:40:31,599
» [clears throat]
>> I'm not in favor of it, but that's just

554
00:40:29,040 --> 00:40:34,640
me. And I have deer at my place, but
like when they're messing with your

555
00:40:33,200 --> 00:40:38,480
gardens and stuff, cuz I had a couple
people ask me about it. What I used to

556
00:40:36,640 --> 00:40:43,680
do when I lived out in the country, I
would get a tape from Farm and Fleet and

557
00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:48,079
I just did like the one mile fencing
around and that

558
00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:51,440
» and it worked for me.
>> Yeah, at that time. Yeah. I don't do

559
00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:54,720
that now. I just
>> really

560
00:40:52,000 --> 00:40:59,359
» I know a homeowner that planted 200 tula
bulbs last fall

561
00:40:56,720 --> 00:41:04,920
» and only one survived
>> and he said to me the deer had a real

562
00:41:01,920 --> 00:41:04,920
smarto.

563
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:14,640
I suppose if you can supply some
options, we could decide if we have

564
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:21,359
» I can continue my discussion with the
DNR uh wildlife biologist and see, you

565
00:41:18,079 --> 00:41:25,200
know, what makes sense for us. Um
>> yeah, like I said, there's a couple

566
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:32,000
different options out there. Um but
yeah, the the way they look at these

567
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:36,160
programs is, you know, is is hurting an
issue then [snorts] being too tame, is

568
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:43,119
that an issue or are some people being
aggressive, which we have hurting and

569
00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:49,680
being too tame. So, um she did say that
we could potentially be a candidate for

570
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:53,920
that if we so wanted to. Uh, but I just
wanted to, you know, before I dove in

571
00:41:51,839 --> 00:41:57,839
any further, I just wanted to see what
the council thought. Have

572
00:41:55,040 --> 00:42:00,880
» we had any car versus deer outside of
84?

573
00:41:59,359 --> 00:42:04,079
» Okay. [clears throat] So, that would be
like a safety thing.

574
00:42:02,000 --> 00:42:06,880
» Yeah, we've had a few that have died in
people's yards, but that's pretty rare.

575
00:42:06,000 --> 00:42:11,280
So, Okay.
>> Is the issue because people are are

576
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,880
eating in their gardens? I mean, really
doing

577
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:15,760
» I mean, that's the biggest complaint
I've heard

578
00:42:13,359 --> 00:42:19,760
» is eating the gardens. We had people
come 10 years ago, I think. Yeah. About

579
00:42:18,079 --> 00:42:24,560
10 years ago, come in here and they
wanted something done.

580
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:27,520
» Y because uh one person had $10,000
worth of landscaping tore up.

581
00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:28,960
» Yeah.
>> Mhm.

582
00:42:28,240 --> 00:42:31,680
» Oh, wow.
>> It's frustrating.

583
00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:35,520
» Oh, I can understand their frustration.
So,

584
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:40,560
» well, I'll continue my talks with um uh
DNR to see, you know, what makes the

585
00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:44,079
best sense for us and [clears throat]
I'll come back to you guys when I have

586
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:48,284
some more options. What do you think
they'll say? Like what's the option

587
00:42:46,560 --> 00:42:51,280
besides a controlled hunt?
[clears throat]

588
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:53,520
» Unfortunately, that's about it. And
>> and I don't think you'll get a

589
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:56,640
controlled hunt.
>> Well, that's why I'm asking the council.

590
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:59,920
Is anyone in
>> because people ain't going to let let

591
00:42:58,319 --> 00:43:06,720
you come on their private property?
>> About the only option we have Tori plug

592
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:11,599
your ears would be at the canyon.
>> Right. Right. Because that is there is a

593
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:15,280
healthy population down at the canyon.
So, and they they have what they're

594
00:43:13,119 --> 00:43:20,560
called sharpshooters, and they're only
allowed to take x amount of deer based

595
00:43:17,440 --> 00:43:25,200
on whatever the wildlife biologist um
seems fit. Uh so, that is also another

596
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:29,550
option, but
>> that would be a really tough

597
00:43:26,240 --> 00:43:33,680
» I will lay across the deer to block it.
[laughter]

598
00:43:30,640 --> 00:43:37,680
» Yeah. In some um well, like Rockwood
Park, they would only allow bow and

599
00:43:36,000 --> 00:43:39,200
arrow. They wouldn't allow guns.
>> Yep.

600
00:43:38,079 --> 00:43:44,000
» No gun.
>> Yeah. And this like what Rock Island did

601
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:49,920
I don't know a few years ago. That's
what theirs was was only a bow hunt. Um

602
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:53,280
but yeah, she just said she's like it is
an option. Not everybody likes it, but

603
00:43:52,319 --> 00:43:56,720
it is an option.
>> Yeah. And Canyon, they probably got them

604
00:43:54,880 --> 00:44:01,440
cuz we got the orchard down there.
They're eating good. [laughter]

605
00:43:59,119 --> 00:44:08,720
» Is Is Andy working?
>> No, he's not working today. Well,

606
00:44:05,839 --> 00:44:13,680
actually is now at 6:00
>> because he would I know they do it at

607
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:18,160
the arsenal.
>> And I don't know. I think they they draw

608
00:44:16,319 --> 00:44:23,280
numbers.
>> Yeah, it's a lottery system.

609
00:44:20,720 --> 00:44:26,319
» Yeah, he would know more about it than I
would, but I do know they they did it at

610
00:44:25,280 --> 00:44:29,200
the arsenal.
>> Yeah, I'll I'll get more information.

611
00:44:27,839 --> 00:44:32,079
I'll bring it back to the council at the
next meeting. Well, I think we have to

612
00:44:30,319 --> 00:44:35,599
consider like Zach said, one is the
safety issue that we have at hand that

613
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:39,920
we're dealing with because if we're just
talking about people's cards getting

614
00:44:36,960 --> 00:44:45,200
interrupted, I don't know if it's worth
>> I would also say

615
00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:48,880
based on a recent issue over in Clinton
where, you know, the city took it upon

616
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:53,119
themselves to start eliminating a
groundhog population over there um

617
00:44:51,425 --> 00:44:58,240
[clears throat] and the public backlash.
I think this is something that we very

618
00:44:55,040 --> 00:45:02,160
much want to get more public input on
>> versus

619
00:44:59,599 --> 00:45:07,040
us state people deciding what the uh
deer population in the city should look

620
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:12,720
like. You know, pose the question, is it
in favor of less deer roaming around?

621
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:16,400
You know, we've had complaints about
property damage,

622
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:22,720
» something to that effect. I don't know
the answer to that. I'm just saying

623
00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:28,079
I don't think I don't necessarily think
that people are going to be like, "Oh,

624
00:45:24,079 --> 00:45:31,520
we should have less deer in town or do
we should we have 50% less deer in

625
00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:34,160
town?" You know, like what what's the
good like people want to see deer in

626
00:45:33,040 --> 00:45:39,200
their backyard. They just don't want to
see their those deer eating $1,000 worth

627
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:42,000
of vegetation or landscaping.
>> 200.

628
00:45:40,240 --> 00:45:47,200
» Yeah. And I just don't know how you
differentiate that.

629
00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:51,359
You know, from a sales aspect, there's a
lot of people that have comment that

630
00:45:48,319 --> 00:45:56,960
they, "Oh, what a quaint town. How cute
that is. How nice that is." So,

631
00:45:55,119 --> 00:46:00,560
» I don't have qualms about it one way or
the other. Just the question was posed

632
00:45:59,040 --> 00:46:04,640
to me. So,
>> well, there's one place

633
00:46:02,800 --> 00:46:10,079
in um
>> Lauren and they've had over 20 deer.

634
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:14,611
They're just walking through, but I
don't think they're complaining. No, no,

635
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:17,280
they were they were not one of the ones.
[clears throat]

636
00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:21,720
» Chad, do you have an opinion at all?
>> I believe the deer leave.

637
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:27,520
» Like I said, like I said, we haven't had
no accidents.

638
00:46:26,079 --> 00:46:31,359
» We're not having deer accidents. We're
having deer attack people. We're not

639
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:34,319
having deer getting in people's houses
or garages or anything like that.

640
00:46:32,720 --> 00:46:38,960
» I had my share of deer accidents when I
traveled 84 to work for years.

641
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:45,800
» I I say let the deer be. That's that's
that's my [snorts]

642
00:46:41,520 --> 00:46:45,800
» let him be let him be dear

643
00:46:46,240 --> 00:46:53,599
» or [clears throat] you can just say all
right we've discussed it

644
00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:56,160
that's up to you guys
>> anyone

645
00:46:54,079 --> 00:46:58,319
» I would say just let it be because I
don't think you're going to get anywhere

646
00:46:57,200 --> 00:47:01,780
with it but people
>> unless it becomes a public safety issue

647
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:05,839
as far as I'm concerned I
[clears throat] I don't think there's an

648
00:47:02,960 --> 00:47:09,760
issue that it's an inconvenience for
some people that have gardens but

649
00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:13,440
» yeah I How many how many are we talking
about, Eric, here? 10, 15, 20 people

650
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:16,319
that are
>> I've only talked to three or four, but

651
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:18,240
they just asked if there was something
that could be done and I just I could

652
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:21,119
talk.
>> I've been up there and there's over 20

653
00:47:19,599 --> 00:47:25,040
deer in Bonnie McCclary Shark.
>> Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There's

654
00:47:23,440 --> 00:47:27,599
» I mean, how many deer have been How many
people are really getting negatively

655
00:47:26,960 --> 00:47:30,240
impacted?
>> That's just that I've heard about.

656
00:47:29,200 --> 00:47:32,880
» Okay.
>> So, it's not like every day or every

657
00:47:32,240 --> 00:47:36,000
week sometimes.
>> No, this is the first complaint I've

658
00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:39,680
heard about. [laughter]
>> Yeah.

659
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:44,000
Yeah, Lauren just bought the things. I
bought them off Amazon. He hung it

660
00:47:41,680 --> 00:47:47,200
around and they don't want it now.
>> I still think it's nice we discussed it

661
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:52,520
because then if somebody does ask, you
can say, "Well, we talked about we

662
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:52,520
didn't like

663
00:47:56,240 --> 00:48:02,319
» David B.
>> Save the deer."

664
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:07,680
» All right. No shootings. Thank you.
>> Uh, next we have the mayor's report on

665
00:48:04,800 --> 00:48:13,800
page 19.
This is what I did fly to half a pig.

666
00:48:17,839 --> 00:48:24,960
Uh, it's just open to questions if
anyone has any questions.

667
00:48:22,640 --> 00:48:29,680
Bendy and I both went to the Brooklyn
Monthly meeting.

668
00:48:26,079 --> 00:48:32,079
» What's the nearest um DCO road show
location to Fulton if we were not

669
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:38,240
selected?
>> That's in uh Boline. Molen,

670
00:48:36,000 --> 00:48:40,160
» Boston University.
>> Oh, that's right. You sent out an email

671
00:48:39,599 --> 00:48:44,400
on that.
>> Yes. And we liked it and we we put in

672
00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:46,240
that we'd like to have it in full and
they're having it back at the same

673
00:48:45,760 --> 00:48:49,119
place.
>> Yes.

674
00:48:46,720 --> 00:48:53,040
» And the mayor did respond
>> to that decision.

675
00:48:51,599 --> 00:48:57,839
» We have never had it before. They put
the call out for um

676
00:48:55,119 --> 00:49:02,079
» cities to host and Barb was gonna
>> and her group was going to let us use

677
00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:04,960
the room down there by the windmill and
>> I submitted our city and we were not

678
00:49:03,680 --> 00:49:10,400
chosen.
>> Um and when I offered a lady said, "Oh,

679
00:49:08,240 --> 00:49:15,520
that's where Crumpets is."
>> Um I would like to know where uh the

680
00:49:12,880 --> 00:49:18,400
city of Fulton team finished at in the
grill Clinton annual golf tournament

681
00:49:17,359 --> 00:49:22,880
[snorts] place.
>> Well, that's not gave us a place.

682
00:49:20,800 --> 00:49:25,520
» Are you sure about that? Not first.
>> They probably did, but they didn't want

683
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:27,040
to make us feel bad. So,
>> okay.

684
00:49:26,319 --> 00:49:29,119
» Not first.
>> Yeah, we were not first place. I can

685
00:49:28,559 --> 00:49:31,520
tell you that.
>> Did our team finish under par?

686
00:49:31,119 --> 00:49:32,640
» We did.
>> Yes.

687
00:49:32,240 --> 00:49:34,240
» Okay.
>> We did.

688
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,240
» No help to me.
>> I would like that noted for the record,

689
00:49:35,680 --> 00:49:38,960
please.
>> We were two under par.

690
00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:40,559
» Make sure that's in the minutes, Tori.
>> One under par.

691
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:44,720
» Okay.
>> Two. Two under. Two under.

692
00:49:43,839 --> 00:49:48,319
» Don't sell yourself short.
>> Yeah. Don't sell ourselves short. Those

693
00:49:46,000 --> 00:49:50,480
are hard to come by. [laughter]
>> You didn't cheat.

694
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:55,520
» Way to represent.
We don't cheat. Now I get to the next.

695
00:49:53,599 --> 00:50:00,440
We saved a mulligan cuz I had a good
shot.

696
00:49:56,160 --> 00:50:00,440
» Yeah, this is true.

697
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:06,760
Uh, next chief has his report here.

698
00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:16,400
» Um, Chief, I have a question on the uh
the fingerprint.

699
00:50:14,079 --> 00:50:22,559
» Yep.
Can

700
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:26,319
can that be used by like someone who
would be hired at the school? Cuz I

701
00:50:24,559 --> 00:50:30,640
» That's right. Once we get it in place,
we're going to be able to do that. Um

702
00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:31,760
» so a lot of places that do have to do
the bio

703
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:36,720
» Yeah.
>> bio prints. Um for school employees,

704
00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:40,880
bank employees, I believe have to do it
now to um we would be able to uh to do

705
00:50:39,920 --> 00:50:44,160
those in house.
>> Okay. Cuz I think right now they send

706
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:47,200
you to Sterling.
>> Yeah.

707
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:50,800
There would be a place in the quad
cities and stuff.

708
00:50:49,280 --> 00:50:53,359
» And then if they did that here, would
that is that something that they would

709
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:57,359
pay for the service?
>> We could probably charge a fee of some

710
00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:02,800
sort.
>> Okay. I was just curious. I have a

711
00:51:00,240 --> 00:51:07,359
question, Chad. And this is in regards
to specifically to the uh step uh

712
00:51:05,520 --> 00:51:12,000
programs you keep on getting rewarded.
This is specifically related to finance.

713
00:51:09,359 --> 00:51:15,915
So maybe this invite you to our meeting
on Thursday. If you're open to the

714
00:51:13,839 --> 00:51:21,839
schedule, we meet at 3:30 on Thursday.
[clears throat]

715
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:25,680
» Um, so I know that we have one maybe at
the end of May, beginning of June, one

716
00:51:24,079 --> 00:51:27,119
over the Fourth of July, and then this
one, right?

717
00:51:26,079 --> 00:51:31,359
» This will be the third one. No, this
will be the third one. There, fourth of

718
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:36,240
July, and then
>> so or Memorial Day. Yeah,

719
00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:40,960
» you've laid it out very well um that
that these grants are paying for

720
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:45,760
enhanced um you know, coverage over
these holidays. and you know some of

721
00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:50,240
that will be going to um overtime. So as
I look at the financials for that just

722
00:51:48,240 --> 00:51:53,599
looking to see how we can reconcile that
on the financials report because you're

723
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:56,079
actually
if you [clears throat] go over the

724
00:51:54,640 --> 00:51:59,359
budget there's a reason why you're going
over the budget is because of these

725
00:51:57,359 --> 00:52:02,960
grants. So that's how I wanted to
discuss that with you discuss that

726
00:52:01,119 --> 00:52:05,440
further on Thursday.
>> Yeah. And that's fine. I think I don't

727
00:52:04,240 --> 00:52:10,640
know if it would just be something that
Ally would have to make sure how how

728
00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:13,920
that monies are tracked.
>> Yeah. if we have to create maybe even

729
00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:18,319
like a separate line item for that. I
was thinking about what I guess where my

730
00:52:15,599 --> 00:52:21,920
point is going this is if we have 30,000
above the 30,000 and over time but it's

731
00:52:20,319 --> 00:52:25,280
all paid for by these step grants. Let's
have that accounted for appropriately

732
00:52:24,319 --> 00:52:28,960
and notated.
>> Mhm.

733
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:33,200
» Yeah. Cuz this this step grant um for
these three campaigns is just under

734
00:52:32,079 --> 00:52:35,520
$10,000.
>> Okay.

735
00:52:33,680 --> 00:52:41,280
» And then uh once we complete this
campaign, we'll be applying for the

736
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:45,599
year-long sub campaign. Okay. Um, and
that obviously is a substantially higher

737
00:52:44,079 --> 00:52:50,800
uh dollar amount.
>> And then I'm going to assume, but I'm

738
00:52:48,319 --> 00:52:57,599
going to ask you anyways. Um, the June
and July um calls uh for service uh

739
00:52:54,880 --> 00:53:02,559
being up substantially uh even in May
really um from May, June and July of

740
00:53:00,079 --> 00:53:08,720
last year. Are are those related to the
step enforcements? A lot of those are

741
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:12,720
from step, but then also um the guys are
now that things are rolling pretty well,

742
00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:15,359
the guys are becoming more proactive.
>> Okay. And [clears throat]

743
00:53:13,839 --> 00:53:19,520
» so it's a little bit of both. I mean,
obviously one is a step and then the

744
00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:22,000
other is just more proactive.
>> And is Mr. Bennett on his own now?

745
00:53:21,359 --> 00:53:24,400
» Yes, he is.
>> Okay.

746
00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:27,440
» All right. So, we're at full staff.
>> Yep.

747
00:53:25,440 --> 00:53:32,319
» Chad, on these calls for service, one of
the high ones is state citations. What

748
00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:36,960
was that? Like so
speeding on 14th is that

749
00:53:34,319 --> 00:53:42,240
» a state citation could be a citation
such as speeding uh no seat belt using a

750
00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:45,200
cell be like on 14th when it's a highway
or like

751
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:48,720
» No, the state citation is just a
>> Okay. On my street as well. Okay.

752
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:52,000
» Yep. Yeah. Then it could have been on
10th or wherever.

753
00:53:50,640 --> 00:53:58,400
» Okay. [snorts]
>> Cuz that's high high number.

754
00:53:54,880 --> 00:54:02,240
» I got a question on the that live scan.
Does that 13,970 does that cover 100% of

755
00:54:01,359 --> 00:54:05,680
the cost of that?
>> Yes.

756
00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:08,640
» And is there an annual fee to not that
I'm aware of

757
00:54:06,319 --> 00:54:12,240
» calibration fee or anything like that?
>> Not that I'm aware of.

758
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:18,400
» I'd have to Rudy would know more about
that. Um since he did all the leg work

759
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:24,000
on it. Um but to my knowledge, there's
not a fee. Um I know we're the squad bay

760
00:54:22,079 --> 00:54:28,400
is already wired and everything for the
internet for it. So I mean there's going

761
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:32,559
to be no no hookup. No, it should be no
installation fees or anything. That's

762
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:37,200
ridiculous with that
>> program fees or anything.

763
00:54:34,079 --> 00:54:40,200
» Yeah, it should come right.
>> Awesome.

764
00:54:43,839 --> 00:54:52,079
» All right. Next is the uh zoning officer
report 22 to 25 is here as well. Is this

765
00:54:50,720 --> 00:54:55,599
the notes from the [clears throat]
>> Yeah, it's just the findings and facts

766
00:54:53,839 --> 00:54:59,599
from the special use permit meeting we
had on August 3rd. So kind of explained

767
00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:05,800
what questions were asked and what was
done and how the vault went and stuff

768
00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:05,800
like that. So which is it was pretty

769
00:55:10,559 --> 00:55:15,040
» excellent documentation. I appreciate
the information

770
00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:19,920
» and [clears throat] we're still looking
for zoning board members.

771
00:55:17,760 --> 00:55:23,920
» I have I have a name for you. I'll give
it to you. And I'm usually just up the

772
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:29,960
hill if you need somebody over the last
minute that you doesn't have to cancel.

773
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:29,960
» Yeah.

774
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:39,319
» All right. Next we have the economic
development committee report 26 and 27

775
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:50,559
question on that. So the agenda on item
E were Airbnbs in town, but then during

776
00:55:48,960 --> 00:55:53,559
discussion it doesn't mention that
anymore.

777
00:55:55,040 --> 00:56:02,960
I think we were asking Eric to find out,
Eric, on the Airbnbs. We think we have

778
00:56:00,559 --> 00:56:06,160
three in now.
>> And

779
00:56:03,440 --> 00:56:10,160
» I know of one that is for sure still
operating. the other one I think the

780
00:56:08,240 --> 00:56:14,559
house sold. So I don't know if that's an
Airbnb anymore or

781
00:56:12,240 --> 00:56:17,839
» but um according to the internet there's
three under

782
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:20,480
» there was three. I don't know that it
still is.

783
00:56:19,119 --> 00:56:24,559
» But I think what we were asking our
committee may you weren't there. I think

784
00:56:22,240 --> 00:56:28,880
we were asking [clears throat] is um do
we have to go after that? Do we have to

785
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:33,200
seek it early? Once they get a permit
from the state of Illinois does that

786
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:38,559
automatically they'll start paying us?
So, I'm waiting to hear back from Matt

787
00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:43,599
Lennox. Okay. Because
>> if I remember right, he I thought he

788
00:56:41,119 --> 00:56:48,319
told me we had to have an ordinance in
order to go after the fees.

789
00:56:46,799 --> 00:56:53,760
» I heard that before,
>> but I I'm waiting on him to respond back

790
00:56:50,559 --> 00:56:58,240
to me on that to know like for sure what
we need to do to make that happen. So,

791
00:56:56,480 --> 00:57:02,079
I'm just at this point just kind of
waiting for more information. So,

792
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:05,680
» probably good to get it in place once we
know because then

793
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:07,680
» it's a revenue source source. Yeah, for
sure.

794
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:10,880
» Because I know he told me to talk to
somebody at Dixon, but I do not remember

795
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:16,079
who he told me to talk to. So, I'm
waiting to find out um who that was so

796
00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:19,920
that way I can reach out and figure out.
>> And we would also want that business, if

797
00:57:18,000 --> 00:57:22,480
it's a business, to register with us
like we all do.

798
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:26,319
» Yes. Just so that way we know.
>> Yeah. And then it after after we have

799
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:29,680
the ordinance and everything, then it's
an automatic. Uh we don't have to do

800
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:33,839
anything other than that.
>> And Rebecca might look for that also and

801
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:40,799
see if we have to pass an ordinance in
order to get Airbnbs permitted in our

802
00:57:39,200 --> 00:57:45,040
» I mean I think they're permitted. It's
just whether or not we're collecting the

803
00:57:42,480 --> 00:57:48,960
hotel motel taxes. That's that's the
part that we're after.

804
00:57:48,160 --> 00:57:54,960
» That's right.
>> Yeah, that was right. We have not gotten

805
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:58,880
any um income yet for for that because I
think that only comes like on certain

806
00:57:56,880 --> 00:58:01,359
months. Um but we can ask that on the
finance committee during the open

807
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:06,160
discussion.
>> Yeah. Cuz right now we don't receive

808
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:09,040
anything from four hotel motel tax rate.
So

809
00:58:07,920 --> 00:58:12,040
» that's the only one we're getting.
>> Correct.

810
00:58:15,440 --> 00:58:22,400
» Um I would like to know how the council
feels about number one. There is a

811
00:58:21,670 --> 00:58:30,160
[clears throat]
the Lincoln Highway mural is city

812
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:33,359
property. It's currently in the drives
historical building, but they need it

813
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:39,119
moved.
Um,

814
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:45,119
you can see the note here on one asking
the council if they feel

815
00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:50,480
to have the sign repainted and the cost
is 10 to 15,000. And then [snorts] we

816
00:58:49,119 --> 00:58:57,839
don't we don't even know where we're
going to put it yet. But this I mean I'm

817
00:58:54,079 --> 00:59:03,520
asking because this was also on the
agenda for July for that meeting and now

818
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:07,119
it's on for August. So can we make some
progress with it or where can we put

819
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:09,920
this thing? What does council want to do
with it?

820
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:13,520
» Big is the mural?
>> It's a mural that was done by the

821
00:59:11,599 --> 00:59:16,319
Lincoln Highway Association.
>> No. How big is it?

822
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:18,640
» Oh, it's big. like
>> um I can't tell.

823
00:59:17,200 --> 00:59:23,920
» 20 times 10.
>> I would say

824
00:59:21,520 --> 00:59:27,599
it's probably at least
15 foot long and yeah, probably 10t tall

825
00:59:26,960 --> 00:59:29,760
would be my guess.
>> Is it in multiple pieces?

826
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:32,079
» Yes.
>> Is it easy to move?

827
00:59:31,520 --> 00:59:34,319
» That I don't.
>> It's just heavy.

828
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:38,961
» Yeah.
>> Logan, have you seen this mural before?

829
00:59:36,996 --> 00:59:42,240
[clears throat]
[cough]

830
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:46,000
» I have seen it, but I don't know how
heavy. The reason why we're interested

831
00:59:43,839 --> 00:59:52,079
in saving it is because we do have a
fair amount of car clubs that travel the

832
00:59:49,200 --> 00:59:56,880
Lincoln Highway and they look for these.
Um, in fact, I met a gentleman last year

833
00:59:54,400 --> 01:00:01,040
who came and he was specifically
traveling the Lincoln Highway to look

834
00:59:58,480 --> 01:00:05,760
for the murals. This was a nationwide
association that put this together years

835
01:00:03,119 --> 01:00:11,440
ago. Um, [clears throat] and it was on
the Fulton Fire Department building over

836
01:00:08,480 --> 01:00:15,359
here on the corner of 10th and Fourth,
which was ideal because the Lincoln

837
01:00:13,599 --> 01:00:21,440
Highway came down Main Street and then
it stopped on that corner and there it

838
01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:26,720
was. Um, and when Kyle Huner bought the
building, he took it down,

839
01:00:24,079 --> 01:00:31,200
but Kyle just recently was willing to
put it back up. People asked about it.

840
01:00:29,440 --> 01:00:34,720
Um, but now he's rented the building,
leased the building. it's a Clinton

841
01:00:33,280 --> 01:00:39,200
business and they're not interested in
having it out. So that's I'm saying

842
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:44,319
before we talk about do we want to
invest the money, we have to find an

843
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:48,400
appropriate place for um before we do
that. And if we can't then I don't think

844
01:00:46,319 --> 01:00:51,119
it's worth investing the money for. But
I wouldn't want to see it destroyed

845
01:00:49,760 --> 01:00:55,520
because somebody else might come along
and do it.

846
01:00:52,160 --> 01:01:00,079
» But Matt Parks was here and he said Barb
that they're taking them all down.

847
01:00:56,960 --> 01:01:04,319
They're not um Moka and all of them in
Deuke. They're not using them no more.

848
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:06,720
» So,
>> well, the Lincoln Highway doesn't go

849
01:01:05,599 --> 01:01:11,040
through the
>> From the economic development

850
01:01:09,440 --> 01:01:15,040
perspective and the drives perspective,
do you want it out of your building?

851
01:01:12,960 --> 01:01:19,599
» We h we'll have to move it here shortly
because the elevator has now been

852
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:23,280
completed and paid for. And so now we'll
be getting to do some things. We have it

853
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:27,760
laying on a floor upstairs
>> and so we're going to have to get it

854
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:32,720
out. And I did talk to Eric about moving
it here up in the attic.

855
01:01:30,720 --> 01:01:37,599
Um, so it'd be somewhat temperature
controlled, which would be better for um

856
01:01:35,599 --> 01:01:42,960
for out of the public works until we
decide if we can find a place.

857
01:01:41,119 --> 01:01:48,799
» That's good.
>> I think it's a valuable piece of artwork

858
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:52,799
and I would hate to see us, but but we
do need to find a location before we

859
01:01:51,119 --> 01:01:56,799
decide to put money in.
>> It's 10 foot by 20 foot. Is that what it

860
01:01:54,960 --> 01:02:00,359
is?
according to the internet.

861
01:02:00,559 --> 01:02:06,160
» Um, who is going to move it?
Is Logan is public works going to move

862
01:02:05,359 --> 01:02:11,960
it?
>> I haven't even seen it. I can look at it

863
01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:11,960
tomorrow and see if we could move it.

864
01:02:13,440 --> 01:02:18,960
» I guess I'd like some confirmation on
whether they really are no longer

865
01:02:16,799 --> 01:02:22,720
putting them up in other areas along the
route because if they're not, then maybe

866
01:02:20,640 --> 01:02:26,799
we can historically maybe put it up at
the Martin House in the yard up there.

867
01:02:24,960 --> 01:02:30,880
or something along those lines. I
haven't seen this so I don't even know

868
01:02:28,000 --> 01:02:36,400
what I'm thinking of, but
>> um let me let me take some pictures and

869
01:02:33,440 --> 01:02:40,160
I will do some like you asked facts
about that because [snorts] Lincoln

870
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:42,799
Highway um
>> otherwise [clears throat] did you have a

871
01:02:41,200 --> 01:02:47,440
recommendation where you thought
>> it's a great picture because it has the

872
01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:48,799
Lion's Lie
Bridge on it?

873
01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:54,640
» Yes.
>> Um which is you know covered to memory

874
01:02:52,799 --> 01:02:58,720
of the
the Lincoln Highway.

875
01:02:56,400 --> 01:03:00,960
» Currently, there's no location
>> for it to go.

876
01:02:59,440 --> 01:03:04,720
» There isn't a recommended location.
>> Well, there are some locations, but

877
01:03:03,040 --> 01:03:07,599
they're not on the Lincoln Highway.
Like, there's a building over there on

878
01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:11,920
the corner of 10th. I said you could put
it on my building, but 10th Avenue

879
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:16,720
wasn't Lincoln Highway. You would go on
that strip. So, you want it at least on

880
01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:22,720
Lincoln.
>> Where is Lincoln Highway? Uh, it came in

881
01:03:19,280 --> 01:03:26,799
on 15th Avenue, the stop sign, and then
turned north on Fourth Street, and it

882
01:03:25,119 --> 01:03:31,119
stopped at the stop sign and then turned
left on 10th, you know, got down to

883
01:03:29,280 --> 01:03:35,359
where the windmill is. It went one block
over and crossed over the um Lion's

884
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:39,349
Oakland Bridge,
>> but right now it's city property in a p

885
01:03:37,440 --> 01:03:43,720
in a private building. So,
[clears throat] they they need it out of

886
01:03:40,720 --> 01:03:43,720
there.

887
01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:48,960
Need a
>> place to put it?

888
01:03:46,880 --> 01:03:54,400
That's
Yeah. Yeah. [clears throat]

889
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:57,880
» Log can take a look at it and let us
know the program.

890
01:03:59,839 --> 01:04:07,280
» And then um number two, the digital
signs.

891
01:04:05,119 --> 01:04:09,599
Is that accurate? That is that how much
we pay down there for the one on 10th

892
01:04:08,960 --> 01:04:14,039
Avenue per?
>> Yes, I call that.

893
01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:14,039
» Oh, okay.

894
01:04:16,559 --> 01:04:23,119
Well, we started to talk about signage
in general and then we got to the

895
01:04:20,559 --> 01:04:28,799
electronic signs because a lot of people
say they can't read them either

896
01:04:26,400 --> 01:04:34,960
the sun is on them or whatever they're
driving too fast. And so we just talked

897
01:04:32,480 --> 01:04:39,839
about getting your opinion. What do you
know? What do you hear? People like them

898
01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:44,079
or not like them.
>> Yeah. And we do have Eric and I met with

899
01:04:42,079 --> 01:04:48,000
Arcade Graphics and they are putting
together,

900
01:04:46,079 --> 01:04:53,039
you know, a plan for new signage for
town, but we haven't seen their

901
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:56,319
» Yeah, I haven't got anything yet.
>> Well, the one they're talking about with

902
01:04:54,480 --> 01:05:01,520
Arcade Graphics is we have one out on
Highway 84 next to the American Legion

903
01:04:58,720 --> 01:05:07,520
Memorial and it is sundried and so it's
just all crumpled and it really needs to

904
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:12,319
be repaired. Um, so that started the
conversation was that and then we talked

905
01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:16,000
about the other signs around town.
>> We should have some by the next meeting.

906
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:19,039
I would think.
>> So the digital signs, I think the only

907
01:05:17,520 --> 01:05:23,039
thing this council has ever discussed on
them is maybe turning down the

908
01:05:20,319 --> 01:05:28,319
brightness um on the one over here
coming off the bridge that was

909
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:31,119
» might help spotlight. Um, and I think we
did, right? We turned down the

910
01:05:29,520 --> 01:05:34,319
brightness and I don't think it's an
issue anymore.

911
01:05:32,160 --> 01:05:38,160
» I haven't heard anything. Um, I have not
heard anything on the 10th or that one

912
01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:41,839
since. So,
>> one on 10th is nice because of the bike

913
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:45,599
path traffic. So, maybe the cars aren't
necessarily stopping to see that, but

914
01:05:43,520 --> 01:05:47,599
the bike path traffic sees it.
>> Well, that's a good point.

915
01:05:46,559 --> 01:05:52,319
» Yeah,
>> cuz I don't really get to read it when I

916
01:05:50,480 --> 01:05:55,760
come across the bridge. But if there's
something I want to see, I just drive

917
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:58,160
around the block and park in the alley
and look at it [clears throat] like

918
01:05:56,640 --> 01:06:01,760
that.
So,

919
01:06:00,079 --> 01:06:05,920
» and then uh number three
>> for your input.

920
01:06:02,799 --> 01:06:10,720
» You can see that um
Country Orcas was bought and they have a

921
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:17,200
grand [snorts] opening on September 12th
at 9:00 a.m. If anyone can come down

922
01:06:15,119 --> 01:06:20,480
» is economic development monitoring the
business registrations or does Ally do

923
01:06:19,039 --> 01:06:23,839
that?
>> We do not.

924
01:06:21,760 --> 01:06:27,520
» Right. It because we'll have some change
in ownerships. We have, you know, Kira's

925
01:06:26,079 --> 01:06:30,799
got the new gal coming in that should
probably be listed on the contact list

926
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:34,880
for them to get a hold of if they need
to for like fire or police needs. And

927
01:06:33,520 --> 01:06:37,680
then if we have a new ownership at
Crumpets, we're going to have some

928
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:44,079
business registration updates.
>> Yep. Um and I believe somebody is going

929
01:06:40,079 --> 01:06:47,039
in 10:09 um where Chelsea's vacating.
>> Yeah, that's true.

930
01:06:45,359 --> 01:06:51,640
» So, we have something going on there. We
have a lot of exciting things going.

931
01:06:52,640 --> 01:06:57,640
Uh we kind of talked about number five
with ideas.

932
01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:07,440
» The Chamber of Commerce used to do that
in Fton. This is one of those things

933
01:07:04,960 --> 01:07:11,280
that the chamber did that's always I
think been missed when there was a new

934
01:07:09,440 --> 01:07:16,559
business started in Fulton. There' be a
welcome to Fulton event. Um sort of like

935
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:21,920
we were talking about starting up now to
help the businesses downtown. Um, and it

936
01:07:19,760 --> 01:07:25,359
would be it was a popular well attended
activity that the chamber would hold

937
01:07:23,440 --> 01:07:28,559
whenever there was a new business.
People would come, not only other

938
01:07:27,039 --> 01:07:32,799
business people, but people in the
community. So, we were talking about how

939
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:38,559
we might be able to get that started.
Um, I still think that has some merit

940
01:07:35,440 --> 01:07:42,160
for us to help that just get that.
>> I wonder if that couldn't go under the

941
01:07:40,160 --> 01:07:46,480
tourism marketing coordinator role.
Someone who is someone to oversee

942
01:07:44,559 --> 01:07:50,960
something of that effect
>> and just not having a chamber. We talked

943
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:55,680
about would it be nice to have one again
but maybe on a smaller scale starting

944
01:07:53,039 --> 01:07:59,280
out with um I'm always impressed with
whatlair does with their business

945
01:07:57,440 --> 01:08:03,520
district and I like to stop in there and
talk to them and they formed the group.

946
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:07,920
It's not a chamber but they call it a
business alliance group and they just

947
01:08:06,319 --> 01:08:11,599
meet and they're not beholden to the
council or to anybody else. It's just

948
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:15,680
they just get together and decide we'd
like to do this and they go to council

949
01:08:13,200 --> 01:08:20,239
and get approval and um that seems to
work real well. It's not a chamber per

950
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:24,400
se, but it help they help one another.
That's the whole mission there is to

951
01:08:21,839 --> 01:08:29,759
help one another. So, we talked about
that. Just looking for any input for any

952
01:08:27,359 --> 01:08:33,400
any of you have any information or
comments on it.

953
01:08:34,159 --> 01:08:43,000
And Eric, we need to get Neil Lucer's
tree. It was approved and we never got

954
01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:43,000
it.

955
01:08:43,199 --> 01:08:49,920
uh soft maple for down on the north east
[clears throat] corner of drive where

956
01:08:48,480 --> 01:08:54,480
the bench is planted.
>> Judy Holles singinger picked out the

957
01:08:51,520 --> 01:09:01,520
site for Jane Jane Orman, you know, took
had the mural um or had the um memorial

958
01:08:57,679 --> 01:09:04,159
and she asked Judy to choose. So Judy
Holles would be the one to touch base

959
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:07,199
with.
>> Yeah, that's where she told me. Mark,

960
01:09:05,920 --> 01:09:09,040
northeast corner. The
>> northeast corner.

961
01:09:08,159 --> 01:09:12,400
» That's a big corner
>> of the driver's building. Is that what

962
01:09:10,319 --> 01:09:15,400
you said? where the bench is sitting.
Yes,

963
01:09:15,440 --> 01:09:25,120
» Bob. Logan, get on the
>> keep. Good call. [laughter]

964
01:09:23,040 --> 01:09:28,319
» Monday night
going to be down there getting the sign

965
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:33,679
anyways. [clears throat]
>> You can just do it all.

966
01:09:31,920 --> 01:09:38,000
» Uh, next we have personnel committee
report. We don't have the report. The

967
01:09:35,759 --> 01:09:44,159
minutes were not done, but we wanted I
wanted it on the agenda in case we got

968
01:09:39,839 --> 01:09:48,319
the minutes because it's easier to not
discuss something if we didn't get it

969
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:52,719
than add something if we got it. So, we
did not get those uh minutes. Just to

970
01:09:51,120 --> 01:09:57,920
give a quick little teaser, we'll be
touching base on the tourism marketing

971
01:09:54,560 --> 01:10:02,080
coordinator position as well as the um
city official pay. We did do a little

972
01:10:00,239 --> 01:10:04,880
looking into that and ultimately we're
going to have some verbage changes but

973
01:10:03,600 --> 01:10:09,360
that's probably going to be the extent
of that. So

974
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:19,040
you all had asked me to give that to
personnel to look at. So um when we met

975
01:10:14,480 --> 01:10:26,120
we went back to um IML
and I know we had talked about this but

976
01:10:22,400 --> 01:10:26,120
there we you know

977
01:10:26,239 --> 01:10:36,159
he called me and he basically said
that we're not in compliance and we need

978
01:10:32,719 --> 01:10:40,960
to either be an annual rate or meeting
attended and right now we're just per

979
01:10:38,400 --> 01:10:46,560
meeting. So he's he suggests one or the
other. But I did

980
01:10:44,000 --> 01:10:50,960
ask him about my idea with the monthly
compensation and the meeting and he said

981
01:10:48,320 --> 01:10:55,840
you cannot do that. You you cannot it's
it's not and it's or. So you can't mix

982
01:10:53,199 --> 01:11:00,400
it. So we need to decide which way we're
going to go either like annual salary

983
01:10:58,239 --> 01:11:05,120
and then that'll be it. And basically we
just change the verbiage or meeting

984
01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:07,199
attended. But that'll be in there
minutes for uh

985
01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:11,920
» discussion
>> next time. And you know, he wasn't

986
01:11:09,199 --> 01:11:21,480
really concerned with our
rate and people missing with that rate

987
01:11:16,960 --> 01:11:21,480
of pay. Not concerned.

988
01:11:22,159 --> 01:11:31,440
Um,
all right. Next, we have um unfinished

989
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:36,194
business. If anyone
like to make any motions on that.

990
01:11:34,080 --> 01:11:42,320
» Make a motion to reopen and put it
[clears throat] to the floor for a vote.

991
01:11:38,400 --> 01:11:48,000
Uh do we have a second to lift from the
table?

992
01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:53,440
Second. Thank you. All right. We have a
motion to approve and vote on a

993
01:11:50,159 --> 01:11:57,679
resolution of the city of council of
Fulton, Illinois establishing a policy

994
01:11:55,760 --> 01:12:05,239
regarding annual compensation increases
for certain city employees is page 28

995
01:11:59,920 --> 01:12:05,239
through 30. Um any discussion?

996
01:12:06,719 --> 01:12:11,000
I know we had asked for

997
01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:19,040
paragraph to be removed that we got back
as the minutes and then

998
01:12:16,640 --> 01:12:22,000
some verbiage at the Is that bolded on
purpose? Is that why is this the new

999
01:12:20,640 --> 01:12:27,040
verbage?
>> We removed the cola increase referenced

1000
01:12:24,480 --> 01:12:30,000
in paragraph 4. In paragraph six, the
last sentence notwithstanding 4 point

1001
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:33,199
inflation eligible for increase
compensation at least one year following

1002
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:35,360
the date of the increased fire was
added.

1003
01:12:33,920 --> 01:12:39,199
» Could you repeat that Rebecca? I
couldn't hear everything you said, but

1004
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:43,600
» we removed under paragraph 4 the
reference to cola increases.

1005
01:12:42,159 --> 01:12:47,600
» You don't see it cuz it's removed.
>> It's gone.

1006
01:12:44,719 --> 01:12:52,640
» And then in paragraph six, the last
sentence of paragraph six was added so

1007
01:12:50,480 --> 01:12:57,120
that no pay increases until employee has
been

1008
01:12:54,239 --> 01:13:02,560
» here for at least one year.
>> But then

1009
01:12:59,040 --> 01:13:08,159
it was after a year he gets his raise.
>> Yeah. At at the year

1010
01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:15,199
» at the year. So like Rudy would get it
>> on the 1st of June this year compared to

1011
01:13:12,960 --> 01:13:18,719
» Oh, right.
>> May 15th was the fire date, right?

1012
01:13:17,440 --> 01:13:22,600
» Yeah. So he's saying
>> May 15th.

1013
01:13:19,600 --> 01:13:22,600
» Yeah.

1014
01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:30,719
» So again, this isn't uh this this is a
reiteration for those that weren't here

1015
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:35,760
uh two weeks ago or three. Yeah, two
weeks ago. um you know, we had an open

1016
01:13:33,600 --> 01:13:40,480
discussion about it and the council um
Keith made a motion to remove that um

1017
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:43,920
specific verbiage and we agreed to do
that and [snorts]

1018
01:13:41,840 --> 01:13:48,159
uh Rebecca had you know taken the
feedback of the council and and put this

1019
01:13:45,600 --> 01:13:54,800
back out here. This will be um something
to hold us accountable for the four or

1020
01:13:51,760 --> 01:14:01,679
whatever number it is at a future date
uh non-union employees because everyone

1021
01:13:57,760 --> 01:14:06,480
else within the city has a set
um pay schedule and increase schedule

1022
01:14:04,159 --> 01:14:11,040
per their union. Uh so we wanted to put
something in paper that um holds the

1023
01:14:08,640 --> 01:14:18,880
city accountable to at least addressing
it on an annual basis.

1024
01:14:15,040 --> 01:14:23,920
And because we took out that the first
one is pretty much open uh to f you know

1025
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:29,600
our council or future councils to
determine what if any um that annual pay

1026
01:14:26,960 --> 01:14:35,040
increase will be for those non-union
employees which is basically our

1027
01:14:31,440 --> 01:14:38,360
management. Thank you.
Anyone else?

1028
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:44,080
» Roll call please to
>> person.

1029
01:14:42,880 --> 01:14:47,520
» Yes. S.
>> Yes.

1030
01:14:45,760 --> 01:14:51,360
» Yes.
>> Yes.

1031
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:55,719
» Yes.
>> Yes.

1032
01:14:52,719 --> 01:14:55,719
» Yes.

1033
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:07,520
» All right. Um, auto person comments.
Um, I don't know if if Tori's put it on

1034
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:11,360
the door [snorts] yet. Um, there's
finance meeting 3:30 on Thursday if

1035
01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:17,760
anybody wants to come. We always love
our guests. So u we'll be discussing uh

1036
01:15:15,120 --> 01:15:18,960
the agenda items which I don't know are
they posted yet?

1037
01:15:18,480 --> 01:15:24,280
» It's posted.
>> Okay. Be discussing those agenda items.

1038
01:15:26,320 --> 01:15:33,760
» Did you get it to
>> I was wondering has um the chief and

1039
01:15:31,040 --> 01:15:36,640
Eric and them got their pay raises?
>> No. No.

1040
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:44,159
» No.
>> That's what's in personnel.

1041
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:47,840
personnel does it have finance can talk
>> their finance I mean sorry

1042
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:50,640
» we're waiting for this to get passed I
think

1043
01:15:52,239 --> 01:16:00,320
» we're waiting on this I thought we voted
on to do it was just going to personnel

1044
01:15:57,600 --> 01:16:03,440
that we talked about
I thought it was voted

1045
01:16:02,159 --> 01:16:08,400
» what's that
>> pay raises for them for this year

1046
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:11,600
» it has not voted on any pay raises has
not been voted it hasn't even been

1047
01:16:10,159 --> 01:16:16,000
discussed
I know we discussed it.

1048
01:16:13,760 --> 01:16:18,719
» We discussed this resolution. We haven't
discussed individual pay raises at this

1049
01:16:18,000 --> 01:16:21,520
point.
>> Yeah.

1050
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:24,480
» So, we have to go back to May to pay.
>> Correct.

1051
01:16:24,159 --> 01:16:26,239
» So,
>> possibly.

1052
01:16:25,440 --> 01:16:30,560
» Yeah, possibly.
>> We're making them sit around while we

1053
01:16:28,880 --> 01:16:34,000
» You're welcome to step in and take care
of it if you'd like.

1054
01:16:32,400 --> 01:16:38,800
» Well, because I had already added up to
vote, but

1055
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:41,679
» anyone can add anything to the agenda.
I [snorts] tried.

1056
01:16:40,159 --> 01:16:47,280
» Not to me.
>> I asked

1057
01:16:44,880 --> 01:16:52,320
I've asked this a couple times. Can you
put it on next month's agenda or next

1058
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:56,719
meeting agenda then
>> for discussion for payraises? Yeah.

1059
01:16:55,360 --> 01:17:02,388
» Or for vote.
>> I thought we talked about it in close

1060
01:16:58,320 --> 01:17:04,408
session, but apparently we didn't.
[snorts]

1061
01:17:05,008 --> 01:17:11,679
[clears throat]
We're making these guys wait. I mean,

1062
01:17:08,719 --> 01:17:17,280
we're into August now.
They've already been waiting since May

1063
01:17:14,880 --> 01:17:23,400
and we're still messing around with it.
That's ridiculous. This should have been

1064
01:17:19,199 --> 01:17:23,400
taken care of before May.

1065
01:17:24,640 --> 01:17:32,360
I'll play ignorance. I didn't know it
was an annual requirement, but now I do

1066
01:17:28,719 --> 01:17:32,360
because it was the resolution.

1067
01:17:32,480 --> 01:17:38,159
» We had it figured in the budget form.
>> What's that? I think the raises were

1068
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:41,199
figured in by
>> I thought they were

1069
01:17:39,920 --> 01:17:44,800
» I don't know.
>> The police department figured it in. But

1070
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:47,600
» yeah, police department's got it figured
in there.

1071
01:17:45,199 --> 01:17:49,920
» Yeah, we fig I figured it in for my
budget.

1072
01:17:48,000 --> 01:17:55,600
» So I guess that the question then would
be like when we approved the budget, did

1073
01:17:53,120 --> 01:17:59,760
we approve the raise?
>> The dollar amount's been approved for my

1074
01:17:58,320 --> 01:18:03,440
» dollar amount approved
>> and then

1075
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:06,480
» we just haven't given it to him yet.
>> Well, that's what I'm saying. Like if we

1076
01:18:04,800 --> 01:18:08,719
approved the budget and it's in the
budget, didn't we give it to him at that

1077
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:10,719
time?
>> No. No.

1078
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:14,000
» Why? Why not?
>> Cuz we just hired him.

1079
01:18:13,199 --> 01:18:18,320
» But not him.
>> He had been this year. Yeah.

1080
01:18:16,000 --> 01:18:22,159
» He has been here.
>> Chief has. But yeah,

1081
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:24,080
» Rooney would have been two weeks later.
>> Yeah.

1082
01:18:23,440 --> 01:18:27,040
» His was.
>> But at that time,

1083
01:18:24,880 --> 01:18:30,239
» his was all employees were figured. Like
I when I do my budget, I already look

1084
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:34,320
forward cuz I know what their contracts
is. I look forward and see what Yeah.

1085
01:18:32,719 --> 01:18:39,520
you. Well, Eric does it as well. Eric
does a bulk of it. I ain't going to lie,

1086
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:43,520
but uh we both he he does and I do as
well. And I'm sure he does it for public

1087
01:18:41,120 --> 01:18:50,320
works as well. He sees that, okay, this
person's going to not only get maybe

1088
01:18:46,560 --> 01:18:53,360
their step in, you know, like a say they
move from a 2-year to a threeyear or

1089
01:18:51,920 --> 01:18:57,600
something, they'll get a raise for that.
And then obviously their percentage race

1090
01:18:55,520 --> 01:19:02,800
for the contract. We figure that already
in to when we do our budget. So, we're

1091
01:18:59,679 --> 01:19:06,320
already up ahead of the game.
I would very much invite you to our

1092
01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:10,679
Thursday meeting because this will be a
topic of conversation.

1093
01:19:07,679 --> 01:19:10,679
» Yeah.

1094
01:19:12,480 --> 01:19:16,520
Uh anyone else?

1095
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:22,159
All right. May I ask a motion to
adjurnn?

1096
01:19:20,320 --> 01:19:26,159
» Second.
>> All in favor?

1097
01:19:24,159 --> 01:19:29,400
» Any opposed?
>> Thank you.