1 00:00:00,020 --> 00:00:07,020 Accounting systems that happened after year end. So that did result in quite a bit of a delay. 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:14,180 But we were able to ultimately pull the books together, and they were and get them ready for audit, 3 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:18,140 and so we were able to issue our opinion on their financial statements. 4 00:00:18,880 --> 00:00:28,780 The second finding is in regards to their physical inventory and reconciling that physical inventory to the fixed asset record, 5 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:40,000 There was a lot of disposal during the year that we're actually appeared to be disposed of in a prior year. 6 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:43,780 And so that reconciliation process just needs to be tightened up. 7 00:00:44,900 --> 00:00:53,020 And then there were some funds in the M.A. Trust Fund for the Jail, the inmates of the Jail, 8 00:00:53,020 --> 00:00:58,630 that have been sitting in there and made trust account for a number of years and some of those 9 00:01:00,260 --> 00:01:09,300 Inmates are now gone and so they need to figure out what to do with that money and then there is also a recommendation and here about the 10 00:01:09,300 --> 00:01:13,780 Handling of the debit cards that are issued to inmates when they leave the jail 11 00:01:13,780 --> 00:01:19,440 Having a secondary review of that of those those 12 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:20,560 issuances 13 00:01:21,580 --> 00:01:24,520 right now one only one person handles that 14 00:01:27,270 --> 00:01:29,670 okay and then there's the final finding is 15 00:01:29,670 --> 00:01:35,210 on the clerk's financial statements he did have a kind of a system glitch in his 16 00:01:35,990 --> 00:01:40,110 accounting software that and there was an entry that was posted that through 17 00:01:40,110 --> 00:01:45,730 out there due to his and due froms between his funds only on his books and 18 00:01:45,730 --> 00:01:49,790 so we had to correct that and they are working with the software vendor to 19 00:01:49,790 --> 00:01:53,350 all of that issue, but was not a material item at all. 20 00:01:56,140 --> 00:02:01,980 Next we have some financial highlights for the county-wide, on a county-wide basis, so this 21 00:02:01,980 --> 00:02:07,720 includes the board, the sheriff, all the constitutional officers across the board, and 22 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:09,560 last five years of revenue. 23 00:02:10,300 --> 00:02:15,060 So you can see there, total revenues are now 60.6 million. 24 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:20,160 That was up about 600,000 or 1% from the prior year. 25 00:02:20,160 --> 00:02:25,060 And this will fluctuate from year to year due to grant activity. 26 00:02:25,660 --> 00:02:27,320 You had more grant activity. 27 00:02:28,380 --> 00:02:30,640 And you see into the capital grants and contribution 28 00:02:30,640 --> 00:02:34,220 fund in the prior year that those road grants 29 00:02:34,220 --> 00:02:37,820 are kind of fluctuate from one year to the next. 30 00:02:38,320 --> 00:02:39,940 And that was a big year in 2024. 31 00:02:46,540 --> 00:02:49,820 Next we have expenditures by function. 32 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,140 And this is the way that governmental accounting standards 33 00:02:53,140 --> 00:03:00,280 requires to compile all this information on a county-wide basis and you can see 34 00:03:00,540 --> 00:03:07,380 expenditures were actually down 1.1 million from the prior year from 60.7 to 59.6. 35 00:03:08,380 --> 00:03:14,120 I was about a 1.78% decrease and a lot of that is tied to those 36 00:03:14,120 --> 00:03:18,630 rev grants from one year to the next. 37 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:23,040 And here's some selected financial information 38 00:03:23,040 --> 00:03:29,240 for various funds that you may be interested in, the general fund had a good surplus in the 39 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:35,920 current in 2025 year and its reserve levels are very healthy right now or at that time at 40 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:41,680 least they were, it's been bolstered by, you know, ARPA funds and cares funds that you've been 41 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:49,460 able to use over the years on operational type items. The county penetration fund did have a loss 42 00:03:49,460 --> 00:03:52,720 during that time of just over a million dollars. 43 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,180 EMS fund has had a slight increase. 44 00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:01,420 Indigent surd tax funds and increase. 45 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,780 And ending fund balance is just over seven million. 46 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:09,180 The library service is fund does have a negative 47 00:04:09,180 --> 00:04:12,060 a deficit and fund balance of 56,000. 48 00:04:12,160 --> 00:04:15,140 So that is, we had to disclose that in the financial statements 49 00:04:15,140 --> 00:04:16,960 whenever we have a deficit and fund balance. 50 00:04:16,960 --> 00:04:22,580 So, we've talked to Rose and she's working on that in the budget process, getting that square 51 00:04:22,580 --> 00:04:23,260 away. 52 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:33,040 Okay, this slide presents the grant activity for the county during the fiscal year and there 53 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:41,880 were 52 grants that you had activity on, 25 or federal grants and 27 or stay, the total federal 54 00:04:41,880 --> 00:04:47,020 grants were over 5.2 million and state grants were about 5.2 million. 55 00:04:47,020 --> 00:04:54,060 So this is a lot of extra work that the accounting team is working on and doing a good job 56 00:04:54,060 --> 00:04:56,340 keeping track of all these different grants. 57 00:04:59,440 --> 00:04:59,960 Capital S. 58 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:22,160 You spent about $7.2 million during that time frame. Some of it was a Stephen school shelter renovations. There were some new vehicles being leased. Software subscriptions now are considered capital activity and the, of course, the largest road projects for hardaway highway and spooner road. 59 00:05:24,940 --> 00:05:27,740 Long-term debt activity during that fiscal year. 60 00:05:27,740 --> 00:05:34,320 Not a lot of new debt is just those leases and software agreements and tower renewables 61 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:39,400 of the little tower lease agreements, the net pension liabilities, the county's portion 62 00:05:39,400 --> 00:05:47,160 of that did decrease by about 5.2 million due to strong investment performance at FRS, the 63 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,420 Florida time and system that you have no control over that. 64 00:05:50,900 --> 00:05:57,400 But you did pay down your regular outstanding bonds and notes by 2.8 million during the fiscal 65 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:03,440 year. The gas tax and hospital bonds will be paid off in 2030. 66 00:06:06,070 --> 00:06:06,830 There were some subsequent 67 00:06:06,830 --> 00:06:12,490 events. We disclosed in the financial statements. These are just items that have occurred 68 00:06:12,490 --> 00:06:21,490 after 9.30. 25 that were disclosed. We received some settlement proceeds through the county's 69 00:06:21,490 --> 00:06:27,530 insurance carrier related to Hurricane Michael. There was a refinancing of one of the, 70 00:06:27,530 --> 00:06:32,130 the installment purchase agreements for some public work 71 00:06:32,130 --> 00:06:35,870 equipment and of course the sheriff's office experiences 72 00:06:35,870 --> 00:06:39,570 that cybersecurity event that they're still evaluating the cost, 73 00:06:39,770 --> 00:06:42,050 the total impact of that. 74 00:06:43,930 --> 00:06:48,450 These next several slides are required communications. 75 00:06:48,750 --> 00:06:52,450 They're in a separate letter that we issue and these are just kind 76 00:06:52,450 --> 00:06:55,530 of standard communications. 77 00:06:55,530 --> 00:06:58,470 It tells you kind of how the audit went. 78 00:06:59,750 --> 00:07:02,290 We did have a couple of new accounting pronouncements. 79 00:07:02,430 --> 00:07:03,230 We had to implement. 80 00:07:03,450 --> 00:07:08,890 Guazby 101 and Guazby 102, 101's on compensated absences. 81 00:07:09,070 --> 00:07:13,090 And then 102 is on risk and disclosures. 82 00:07:13,230 --> 00:07:14,070 There were none. 83 00:07:16,310 --> 00:07:19,270 These are some estimates in the financial statements 84 00:07:19,270 --> 00:07:21,830 that we have to disclose. 85 00:07:22,050 --> 00:07:25,730 They're not taking any aggressive positions in their estimations. 86 00:07:25,730 --> 00:07:28,250 So we were comfortable with these estimates. 87 00:07:30,590 --> 00:07:31,210 Let's see here. 88 00:07:31,390 --> 00:07:34,530 We have to disclose now days the audit adjustments 89 00:07:34,530 --> 00:07:37,170 and any uncorrected audit adjustments. 90 00:07:38,910 --> 00:07:40,010 There we 91 00:07:42,730 --> 00:07:43,810 go. 92 00:07:43,990 --> 00:07:45,230 To impress our enough. 93 00:07:46,030 --> 00:07:48,270 And so there were a couple of material audit adjustments 94 00:07:48,270 --> 00:07:50,130 there that we've listed out. 95 00:07:50,270 --> 00:07:52,610 These are kind of technical accounting matters. 96 00:07:53,270 --> 00:07:56,150 And then the ones we did not post are considered 97 00:07:56,150 --> 00:08:01,030 correct in this statement. And these are the small equipment, at least it's like copiers 98 00:08:01,030 --> 00:08:08,730 in postage machines, and overall the net impact was like $4,000, so we did not post that. 99 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:20,260 It's hard enough. Here's some other required disclosures. The only significant difficulty 100 00:08:20,260 --> 00:08:27,300 that we encountered was the delay of our audit, as I mentioned, related to the sheriff's audit. 101 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:35,520 And then finally we have a couple of accounting pronouncements that are on the horizon. 102 00:08:39,450 --> 00:08:39,990 There we go. 103 00:08:40,890 --> 00:08:45,530 The biggest one is, guys, be one of three, which we'll add some, we're talking with 104 00:08:45,530 --> 00:08:46,390 Rose about this. 105 00:08:46,550 --> 00:08:52,010 We'll add some disclosure on the budget versus actual and the original budget versus 106 00:08:52,010 --> 00:08:59,210 final budget having some disclosures about those significant variances will be in the financial 107 00:08:59,210 --> 00:09:07,050 This statement is during FY26, there's also some additional disclosure of capital asset 108 00:09:07,050 --> 00:09:14,210 information and then other clarifications on what should be a subsequent event. 109 00:09:18,930 --> 00:09:22,450 Does anybody have any questions on any of that? 110 00:09:22,450 --> 00:09:28,590 Those were the highlights that we wanted to go over with you in this main report. 111 00:09:29,510 --> 00:09:30,750 Any questions? 112 00:09:33,010 --> 00:09:33,210 One. 113 00:09:35,070 --> 00:09:36,790 One makes us better. 114 00:09:37,970 --> 00:09:39,570 What makes us better? 115 00:09:40,590 --> 00:09:41,530 What makes you improve? 116 00:09:41,870 --> 00:09:49,490 Well, getting the sheriff's financial statements closed out and ready for audit earlier. 117 00:09:49,910 --> 00:09:53,910 That would make this process go much, much smoother. 118 00:09:53,910 --> 00:09:59,590 I know that they had a cybersecurity event, they're working on getting that. 119 00:10:00,580 --> 00:10:10,820 Reactor file and getting back on their systems back online. We did recommend that they move those systems to the cloud in terms of their accounting systems. 120 00:10:10,820 --> 00:10:17,520 They don't have the same problem. So, hopefully that will come to fruition next year. 121 00:10:17,980 --> 00:10:27,840 Okay, that's the shares, but what makes us better? I mean, that delayed the audit, but it doesn't necessarily tell us what we need to do to improve our accounting. 122 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:37,060 As far as you're accounting, we've gone through some of the accounting adjustments with the 123 00:10:37,060 --> 00:10:43,420 clerk staff and kind of try to show them exactly what the reasons for those adjustments 124 00:10:43,420 --> 00:10:44,100 are. 125 00:10:44,500 --> 00:10:48,460 And I think they're understanding how that all comes together now. 126 00:10:48,520 --> 00:10:54,940 We can provide any information we need in order to help with those adjustments. 127 00:10:54,940 --> 00:11:01,780 We've talked to Rose about the compliance issues with the budget over expenditures, and she's fully aware of how that works. 128 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:13,000 And, you know, these things kind of come in towards the end of the year, and you're rushing around to get these budget amendments approved before the 60 day deadline. 129 00:11:13,580 --> 00:11:15,220 So, she's going to be. 130 00:11:15,520 --> 00:11:20,740 Well, what you're saying is what you taught to her about, but tell me what you think about this like, 131 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:26,980 I think this is on page 4. 132 00:11:27,660 --> 00:11:33,280 Financial statements being materialistic and they had not been corrected. 133 00:11:33,600 --> 00:11:34,400 What were they? 134 00:11:34,680 --> 00:11:37,120 Those were audited justice that we posted. 135 00:11:38,580 --> 00:11:44,100 These were things like deferred revenues that should have been recognized into revenue. 136 00:11:44,540 --> 00:11:47,700 They had just not realized needed to be corrected. 137 00:11:48,060 --> 00:11:49,980 Like whenever they spent the ARPA money, 138 00:11:49,980 --> 00:11:55,720 they needed to recognize that revenue to match the expenditures. That's that's one example. 139 00:11:56,300 --> 00:11:58,020 There are things like that. 140 00:11:58,280 --> 00:12:04,880 I have, I have, I have asked you these questions before so you now always do ask them 141 00:12:04,880 --> 00:12:08,980 because because we have to get be better every year. 142 00:12:10,820 --> 00:12:15,020 The accounting and we need to work together to be better so. 143 00:12:15,020 --> 00:12:17,820 Well, can you do these accountants for other organizations? 144 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,620 So that's why I'm asking, what do we do to improve? 145 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:31,520 You know, you've just got to have additional training in the accounting team to better 146 00:12:31,520 --> 00:12:34,440 understand some of these more technical matters. 147 00:12:34,460 --> 00:12:36,900 I think that would not be helpful. 148 00:12:37,300 --> 00:12:38,060 I would help this. 149 00:12:38,260 --> 00:12:41,700 What department is we're getting training too? 150 00:12:42,240 --> 00:12:46,400 that wish they would negate the problems of having a physical 151 00:12:46,400 --> 00:12:50,000 none out in the field and the numbers to match. 152 00:12:50,580 --> 00:12:52,800 Yes, the physical and the numbers. Absolutely. 153 00:12:53,860 --> 00:12:57,720 Okay. I look over it and I'll post you. I have some questions. 154 00:12:59,380 --> 00:13:01,680 We're going to call for it first, but okay. Thank you. 155 00:13:01,740 --> 00:13:03,480 I'm Steve. Mr. Sharma. 156 00:13:04,180 --> 00:13:06,460 Yes, Mr. Commissioner Greene. 157 00:13:07,100 --> 00:13:10,560 So I did hear that there were some penalties for 158 00:13:10,560 --> 00:13:19,620 I guess some of the lateness are the over spinnatures, spinnatures, do we have the pinnities 159 00:13:19,620 --> 00:13:22,620 of Mao or the Connoisseurs for these spinnities? 160 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:24,260 Are these findings? 161 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:32,960 As far as I'm aware, there have not been any penalties and there are none unless you begin 162 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:38,380 to get further and further down the road, I am a little, I'm hoping that the sheriff has 163 00:13:38,380 --> 00:13:44,880 mentioned that the sheriff will get their books straightened out and be ready next year 164 00:13:44,880 --> 00:13:50,280 and the year you're in now. So we're not in the same position, but if you were to have 165 00:13:50,280 --> 00:13:58,800 longer periods like we're a couple months late here from the June 30 deadline but it doesn't 166 00:13:58,800 --> 00:14:05,340 sound like that's going to cause a major issue. If you were to become many, many months late 167 00:14:05,340 --> 00:14:12,820 even a year late, then you could be threatened with a reduction of state funding. 168 00:14:13,980 --> 00:14:21,980 And from what I understand, the clerk did receive some message from DOT, I believe, saying 169 00:14:21,980 --> 00:14:27,760 how you need to get your audit in immediately, and as soon as possible, to avoid any potential 170 00:14:27,760 --> 00:14:28,780 ramifications. 171 00:14:31,460 --> 00:14:38,140 question Mr. Chair. Thank you on page 16 you require communications. Corrected 172 00:14:38,860 --> 00:14:44,040 misstatements. Usually you give a letter and say you know in the letter you 173 00:14:44,040 --> 00:14:49,000 usually list let me know you're doing this in a presentation this time. 174 00:14:51,300 --> 00:14:51,360 All 175 00:14:51,360 --> 00:14:56,720 that's been cleared up. Yes yes all these adjustments were opposed to yes 176 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,320 I just did. 177 00:14:59,560 --> 00:14:59,780 Correct. 178 00:15:07,940 --> 00:15:17,660 I just want to say that we spent some quality time a day with him, reviewing this report and all and all on for you, please it were. Thank you, what I heard. 179 00:15:19,000 --> 00:15:26,260 Excuse me, Mr. Chairman, and may I say this, that we must have what some improvements could be. 180 00:15:26,260 --> 00:15:32,720 Yeah, or for us to get better because we're not doing the numbers and we have to have that 181 00:15:34,020 --> 00:15:38,140 Usually I spoke to someone that they just have to speak to them today 182 00:15:38,140 --> 00:15:44,120 But they do follow on their audit. They do follow up meeting and I thought if they do their 183 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:48,980 Corrections and find out what they do they don't be a good idea. Thank you 184 00:16:07,580 --> 00:16:08,980 You got a motion? 185 00:16:08,980 --> 00:16:11,080 You did a little bit of public comment. 186 00:16:11,260 --> 00:16:11,660 No second. 187 00:16:11,900 --> 00:16:13,200 Hold on, first of all. 188 00:16:13,440 --> 00:16:14,720 Let me before we do that. 189 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,680 Do you have any public comments first? 190 00:16:18,820 --> 00:16:23,820 Do you have any questions before we decide to move forward? 191 00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:25,100 Talk about it 192 00:16:28,580 --> 00:16:28,580 then. 193 00:16:28,980 --> 00:16:30,420 So now do you have a motion floor? 194 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:33,740 I don't know. 195 00:16:34,840 --> 00:16:35,140 I don't know. 196 00:16:35,160 --> 00:16:35,580 That guy. 197 00:16:36,180 --> 00:16:37,120 A motion is second. 198 00:16:37,220 --> 00:16:38,100 All the papers are. 199 00:16:38,100 --> 00:16:38,420 Yeah. 200 00:16:38,860 --> 00:16:39,780 I want to pose. 201 00:16:39,780 --> 00:16:41,560 All right, five o'clock. 202 00:16:42,760 --> 00:16:44,000 Thank you very much. 203 00:16:59,510 --> 00:17:02,470 Our next, we have the Senate, the Senate, 204 00:17:05,000 --> 00:17:06,880 the motion flow for that. 205 00:17:20,380 --> 00:17:21,960 May I ask you a question right? 206 00:17:22,260 --> 00:17:22,460 Yes. 207 00:17:23,260 --> 00:17:25,440 On number seven, see that's not a money item. 208 00:17:33,130 --> 00:17:33,630 I think it's not. 209 00:17:34,390 --> 00:17:35,030 Mr. Chair. 210 00:17:35,930 --> 00:17:38,770 It's my understanding that seven C did have a fiscal impact, 211 00:17:38,950 --> 00:17:40,830 but the fiscal impact wasn't to the county. 212 00:17:41,410 --> 00:17:43,590 The county was acting as a pass through agent 213 00:17:43,590 --> 00:17:46,630 for the Department of Transportation through the Central Program. 214 00:17:46,630 --> 00:17:52,470 What you guys have previously approved and so we approved it, but if it's a money then reimbursement 215 00:17:54,290 --> 00:17:57,670 It is not reimbursement in the House of Pastoral 216 00:17:59,980 --> 00:18:01,760 fine, I mean if you just put on regular agenda 217 00:18:01,760 --> 00:18:03,820 We got me that's not there. It's not gonna be approved 218 00:18:03,820 --> 00:18:07,900 No one's go turn down any money. Yeah, but does impact the general fund 219 00:18:09,620 --> 00:18:15,240 My understanding of reviewing it prior to the day was that seven to see how you know impact on a general fund and that 220 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:20,620 Essentially, you guys were approving it for DOT to fund it because they were going to manage 221 00:18:20,620 --> 00:18:21,520 the central project. 222 00:18:21,540 --> 00:18:23,340 So, no one has come out to bang. 223 00:18:23,800 --> 00:18:24,520 It was my understanding. 224 00:18:24,740 --> 00:18:28,160 If public works has a different position, they're a part of what my understanding was that 225 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:32,440 this, you guys were acting as a past-true approval because they were going to do work within 226 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:33,380 your incorporated areas. 227 00:18:33,480 --> 00:18:33,820 Okay. 228 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:38,880 So, there is under a successful impact and then there's the Department of Transportation. 229 00:18:38,880 --> 00:18:46,740 So we're approving the $659,000 for the trial and none has come out of the bank. 230 00:18:46,780 --> 00:18:50,120 This is just money going to go from FDOT to the county. 231 00:18:51,640 --> 00:18:54,420 So I can't speak to the details of the financial transactions. 232 00:18:54,460 --> 00:18:57,880 I have been in contact with my review of it because you guys have previously approved 233 00:18:57,880 --> 00:19:04,400 the Central Agreement and there was going to be no fiscal impact on the actual county's 234 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:05,000 general fund. 235 00:19:05,000 --> 00:19:07,980 And so this wasn't like one of your normal grants where 236 00:19:07,980 --> 00:19:12,360 the county is bidding it out and doing all the work that I'm just saying. 237 00:19:12,540 --> 00:19:15,840 If there's no money out of the bank out of the county's coffers, it's fine. 238 00:19:16,140 --> 00:19:17,620 No, it didn't, it wouldn't be on the consent. 239 00:19:17,620 --> 00:19:19,160 It can be put on regular steel approve. 240 00:19:19,460 --> 00:19:21,740 But can I just, can I just move it to? 241 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:26,060 I can't, can we just go ahead and just pull this out of here and discuss it? 242 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,860 Because the people in the community know what it is, you know, because I think it's a great thing. 243 00:19:30,040 --> 00:19:30,600 Yeah, it is. 244 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:33,780 So we can have the county to discuss it. 245 00:19:33,780 --> 00:19:36,640 in the Spanish trail, same thing, but good idea. 246 00:19:36,660 --> 00:19:41,980 It's something that, yeah, and so we can discuss it and vote on it tonight. 247 00:19:42,080 --> 00:19:42,380 Okay. 248 00:19:43,140 --> 00:19:44,020 That way, then. 249 00:19:44,020 --> 00:19:44,720 Put on the general. 250 00:19:45,620 --> 00:19:46,080 Put on the general. 251 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:46,360 Put on the general. 252 00:19:46,360 --> 00:19:47,340 It's a great item here. 253 00:19:47,540 --> 00:19:47,720 Yeah. 254 00:19:48,100 --> 00:19:48,800 Put on the general? 255 00:19:49,220 --> 00:19:49,640 Yes. 256 00:19:50,380 --> 00:19:50,720 11. 257 00:19:51,160 --> 00:19:58,760 Or, or can we see if you're comfortable, we had them come speak on it now, and, and, and, and, and, so they can give 258 00:19:59,440 --> 00:19:59,980 give up. 259 00:20:13,700 --> 00:20:28,080 If you want a discussion on it, be my recommendation that you pull it out of the content, because there'd be no longer be a consent item, or you can pull it for discussion and move it from 7C into item 8. If you want to pull it for discussion for them to talk about it. 260 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:52,800 Um, you can pull it into item eight or you can make it 11. Yeah, I think she's made a motion her motion has to get a second or die for life 261 00:20:56,940 --> 00:20:59,640 No, it's okay. I mean I second 262 00:21:01,180 --> 00:21:01,860 Oh, sorry. 263 00:21:02,860 --> 00:21:04,600 If it's a location, it's fine. 264 00:21:04,660 --> 00:21:05,440 Put it anywhere you want. 265 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:06,620 I just... 266 00:21:06,940 --> 00:21:09,920 I mean, I think the community knows that well. 267 00:21:10,360 --> 00:21:10,760 Okay. 268 00:21:11,100 --> 00:21:11,640 Let's just see. 269 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:12,180 Great thing. 270 00:21:12,380 --> 00:21:12,840 Let's just see. 271 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:13,400 11 to 8. 272 00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:13,760 I don't know. 273 00:21:14,080 --> 00:21:14,360 Okay. 274 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:15,520 Okay. 275 00:21:16,520 --> 00:21:17,320 That's my motion. 276 00:21:17,640 --> 00:21:17,860 11. 277 00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:18,300 11. 278 00:21:18,460 --> 00:21:18,600 11. 279 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:19,020 11. 280 00:21:19,740 --> 00:21:19,900 11. 281 00:21:19,900 --> 00:21:27,000 You know what I pose, I have a five-world vote, I have one for you. 282 00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:33,040 So let's go with now a casino, we have a most of that, two-foot. 283 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:36,100 Okay, most to move approval. 284 00:21:37,380 --> 00:21:39,860 All right, most of the sake of all of Abesire. 285 00:21:41,120 --> 00:21:44,060 All right, so this is five-world vote. 286 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:49,080 Next, Adam, for discussion, I guess we just talked about that. 287 00:21:49,080 --> 00:21:59,600 nine citizens requested to be heard on non-agenda items three minutes. The 288 00:21:59,600 --> 00:22:05,320 gas and county board of kind of commissioners, welcomes and encourages public 289 00:22:05,320 --> 00:22:11,500 participation at all meetings on the board. Citizens are free to speak for up to 290 00:22:11,500 --> 00:22:17,980 three minutes on non-agenda items. Public comments and participation are also 291 00:22:17,980 --> 00:22:24,140 encourage for items on the agenda. Additionally, if you are unable to attend a meeting in person, 292 00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:33,540 comments from the public can also be submitted to via, submit a via email to citizens to be heard 293 00:22:33,540 --> 00:22:43,040 at Gaston County, LfL.gov. Again, citizens to be heard at Gaston County, LfL.gov, and to 294 00:22:43,040 --> 00:22:45,200 on the date of the meeting. 295 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:48,740 Comments submitted after the deadline, but prior to the meeting, 296 00:22:49,500 --> 00:22:51,060 we'll be added to the official records. 297 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:55,940 But the Guest in County, Board of County Commission cannot guarantee 298 00:22:55,940 --> 00:23:02,320 that commissioners and staff will have adequate time to review comments prior to the meeting. 299 00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:12,880 Citizens are further encouraged to participate on the County website at 300 00:23:12,880 --> 00:23:22,220 W. W. W. Dodgaston County of L dot go. All right, so do we have in the public comments here. 301 00:23:26,490 --> 00:23:27,090 We're here. 302 00:23:31,270 --> 00:23:33,050 We don't have in the public comments. 303 00:23:35,500 --> 00:23:37,440 Now we have someone. 304 00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:44,180 We have one public comment here. I'm just putting the record here from. 305 00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:53,160 For guests and county commissioners, students safety, missing person in local research 306 00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:55,380 initiative initiative. 307 00:23:55,380 --> 00:23:59,460 Members of the Guest County Board of County Commissioner, please place this proposal 308 00:23:59,460 --> 00:24:04,840 before the board and circulate it to commissioners and appropriate county staff. 309 00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:13,380 I am asking guests and county to support a student, student, local research and safety initiative 310 00:24:13,380 --> 00:24:16,880 involve involving our schools, colleges, 311 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:22,300 law enforcement, media, historian, and community members. 312 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:25,920 Student will have student will investigate 313 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:29,860 not simply be handled conclusion about. 314 00:24:30,260 --> 00:24:34,260 Guessing Canada history in present-day condition. 315 00:24:35,180 --> 00:24:38,040 Topic can include missing person case 316 00:24:38,580 --> 00:24:41,580 and their last known location. 317 00:24:41,580 --> 00:24:51,320 The Unresolved, 1973, disappearance of an Asley Buddy, McCollum, and his 12-year-old grandson, 318 00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:53,140 Leneer. 319 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:59,420 Historically, newspeople, M.A.P. Population Change, School, Disarregation, and Enrollment, 320 00:24:59,420 --> 00:24:59,680 Puppet. 321 00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:13,540 Public records, or history, and community safety, as soon as should be challenged to find facts, charts, records, interviews, maps, and connection that were not supplied to them. 322 00:25:13,540 --> 00:25:16,960 Then I guess that's one of the proposals that he wanted. 323 00:25:17,780 --> 00:25:22,480 I asked the county to help connect this initiative with Gaston County Schools, 324 00:25:22,980 --> 00:25:26,260 El Dilly, the Gaston County Sheriff Office, 325 00:25:26,540 --> 00:25:31,880 Chris Polis, Florida, DOE, local college colleges, 326 00:25:32,540 --> 00:25:35,340 and appropriate youth safety organization. 327 00:25:35,400 --> 00:25:39,380 Ronald Davis, Ronald David, Jones, Quincy, 328 00:25:39,720 --> 00:25:40,800 Gaston County Florida. 329 00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:45,700 All right, so that's the only one I have now for public comments. 330 00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:48,120 I don't think I have anything else. 331 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:50,280 So next, 332 00:25:55,560 --> 00:26:00,220 you're having the public hearings, general business, 118. 333 00:26:01,460 --> 00:26:02,160 Thanks, Chairman. 334 00:26:03,480 --> 00:26:04,040 118. 335 00:26:04,300 --> 00:26:07,900 Gatsy County Public Works Department has five enterprise lease vehicles, 336 00:26:08,620 --> 00:26:11,340 and one county owned vehicle and enterprise maintenance agreement. 337 00:26:12,080 --> 00:26:15,160 Staff is seeking board approval to return four of the five vehicles. 338 00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:19,920 and cancel the maintenance agreement for the county owned vehicle to reduce the annual 339 00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,520 contracting expenditures. 340 00:26:22,120 --> 00:26:27,640 Staff is identified vehicles that were not sole-attrated that can be utilized for daily 341 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:28,300 operations. 342 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:34,980 With the elimination of these contracted items, public words can reduce contracted costs by 343 00:26:34,980 --> 00:26:37,940 to two thousand two hundred eighty nine thousand dollars annually. 344 00:26:41,940 --> 00:26:42,400 Any questions? 345 00:26:42,980 --> 00:26:46,540 Have a question. I'll commit to a whole thing committed to green. 346 00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:57,020 What equipment that we have are there? Excuse me. That's needed that we couldn't do maintenance on 347 00:26:58,300 --> 00:27:05,300 because if we get rid of equipment, what equipment do we have that's needed in a daily needed daily? 348 00:27:05,300 --> 00:27:10,120 that we can't do maintenance on, that we would have to get maintenance on them. 349 00:27:10,300 --> 00:27:14,980 Because we train back to the process for that. 350 00:27:15,740 --> 00:27:21,480 But if we're going to cut back, what equipment are they needing out there? 351 00:27:22,460 --> 00:27:25,300 That they need that would have to be worked on. 352 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:33,700 And is that a fair trade or if it's, because if we just vehicles, then that's fine. 353 00:27:33,700 --> 00:27:37,520 But I'm saying, I want to let other look, I know I know what you're saying. 354 00:27:38,780 --> 00:27:43,400 But I was just saying at this time, I went right for those others to be looked at. 355 00:27:43,820 --> 00:27:48,320 Because I looked at two out there and they were not doing too well, so I had to roll the other day. 356 00:27:48,980 --> 00:27:50,160 But thank you. 357 00:27:50,220 --> 00:27:50,520 Thank you. 358 00:27:51,120 --> 00:27:51,640 Thank you. 359 00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:51,960 Thank you. 360 00:27:52,660 --> 00:27:53,660 Thank you. 361 00:27:53,820 --> 00:27:54,260 Thank you. 362 00:28:02,120 --> 00:28:03,000 Thank you. 363 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:10,360 really a savings overall, I hear this in 2000, but will we pay for that in the long run 364 00:28:11,380 --> 00:28:17,700 with maintenance and other fees and other calls from the equipment or the vehicles that we 365 00:28:17,700 --> 00:28:20,800 will be utilizing going forward. 366 00:28:21,460 --> 00:28:26,640 I mean, I hear this in 2000, but at the same time, is there a need or is there a not a need 367 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:27,820 for these vehicles. 368 00:28:31,150 --> 00:28:35,610 I think it's been a request and commissioner. 369 00:28:36,410 --> 00:28:37,870 He said he'd identify other vehicles 370 00:28:37,870 --> 00:28:40,170 that he could use on a daily operations. 371 00:28:41,910 --> 00:28:46,390 Look, I saw that, but I guess that's the area of expertise. 372 00:28:47,350 --> 00:28:49,970 I just hope that in the long run that it does not come back. 373 00:28:50,170 --> 00:28:52,950 But the other vehicles that hold the vehicles, 374 00:28:53,130 --> 00:28:55,910 I hope they don't come back and consult us more money 375 00:28:55,910 --> 00:28:58,730 I'm having to give him repairs on, but thank you. 376 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,180 I am great in other questions. 377 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:03,120 Move the brew. 378 00:29:03,780 --> 00:29:05,460 I have a motion to approve. 379 00:29:06,700 --> 00:29:07,500 I do have a second. 380 00:29:09,260 --> 00:29:09,380 Second. 381 00:29:09,400 --> 00:29:11,500 OK, motion to approve in a second. 382 00:29:11,640 --> 00:29:12,680 All of these are. 383 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:14,680 And want to pose? 384 00:29:14,900 --> 00:29:15,360 No. 385 00:29:16,080 --> 00:29:16,600 All right. 386 00:29:17,220 --> 00:29:18,880 Three, two, vote. 387 00:29:20,300 --> 00:29:20,820 11B. 388 00:29:23,810 --> 00:29:27,750 11B is primarily a project extension for the public 389 00:29:27,750 --> 00:29:33,770 safe to complex and extend the agreement out to August 31st, 2028 for completion. 390 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:38,640 Go, go, go. 391 00:29:38,740 --> 00:29:39,600 But I do have a question. 392 00:29:40,300 --> 00:29:40,960 Thank you. 393 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:41,200 Okay. 394 00:29:41,380 --> 00:29:42,280 We have a motion. 395 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:42,800 Second. 396 00:29:42,940 --> 00:29:43,520 With a question. 397 00:29:43,780 --> 00:29:44,000 Commission. 398 00:29:44,060 --> 00:29:44,380 Green. 399 00:29:47,020 --> 00:29:47,540 Simpsons. 400 00:29:47,940 --> 00:29:47,960 Comments. 401 00:29:49,500 --> 00:29:50,020 Comments. 402 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:51,040 Comments. 403 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:51,220 Simpsons. 404 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:52,800 Comments. 405 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:53,420 Comments. 406 00:29:53,420 --> 00:29:53,720 Comments. 407 00:29:58,180 --> 00:29:58,700 Comments. 408 00:29:58,880 --> 00:29:59,400 Comments. 409 00:29:59,480 --> 00:29:59,980 Comments. 410 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:10,880 We have a good application of the protest, but we have to get that appropriate paperwork submitted over to Ajax. 411 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:14,060 The last item that had not been. 412 00:30:14,720 --> 00:30:27,060 The I can confirm that Ajax and all the appropriate parties, including on the county and the sheriff side, received the document signed by the administrative ed, approving the pre-construction agreement this border proved. 413 00:30:28,560 --> 00:30:33,640 Thank you because a few days ago it wasn't and I did ask kind of haven't gotten the answer back from 81. 414 00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:34,940 So thank you. 415 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:41,420 Commissioner of Sympkins? 416 00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:53,340 Uh, a couple of things, one, I'm looking at this and it says, um, approval of the 80% design. 417 00:30:53,700 --> 00:31:03,250 What is our, almost a year ago, not thought that we should have been at 100% design on this. 418 00:31:05,650 --> 00:31:16,090 that's one. And number two, now that we have gotten that is over there, do we have a time 419 00:31:16,090 --> 00:31:22,530 frame from Ajax as to when they will have their 420 00:31:24,700 --> 00:31:28,500 own. It's a bit, yes, their GMP. 421 00:31:32,280 --> 00:31:38,180 Yes, I can answer the second half, which is that Ajax is now engaged in pre-construction 422 00:31:38,180 --> 00:31:44,240 services, but Ajax would not be able to have a hard GMP to the county until Ajax 423 00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:49,440 bids it out to its subs, which they have to do under the agreements that we signed with 424 00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:49,780 the state. 425 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:56,080 And so I don't think at this time it's possible for the county, and I get out to take a pause. 426 00:31:56,200 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaking for Ajax to give us a GMP, because they haven't hard-bited to their subs yet. 427 00:32:01,580 --> 00:32:04,880 I think to the second question to the extent you're interested in, Mr. Chair, I do see 428 00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:09,440 CRA has a representative and so it's the extent they can give us a hard time, a hard 429 00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:13,360 date on what will have a hundred percent. I think there'll be best speed to that, Mr. Chair. 430 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,800 Okay. You're a follow up to the term please. 431 00:32:17,380 --> 00:32:22,780 Okay, what is the based on the one you want to ask your first question for us, sir? Are you okay? 432 00:32:22,780 --> 00:32:32,020 I can, after that, after he finished in the end, as it relates to the, what is the deadline? 433 00:32:32,020 --> 00:32:42,920 like what's the time frame that the GM that Ajax has to have this beaded out like how long 434 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:50,780 does it have to be out so I guess with once it's 30 days or so it's different requirements 435 00:32:50,780 --> 00:32:54,740 okay and so once it's fixed 436 00:32:58,040 --> 00:33:00,860 so yeah there's different grants so this is a bucket of grants 437 00:33:00,860 --> 00:33:04,280 there's I believe right last time I checked there was at least three maybe four I think they got 438 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:34,260 The sheriff got a fourth last year, I think, of last year for under a million dollars, which brought the number up to a four grants is my understanding, and so, but overall it's my understanding that once Ajax puts this out, they will have to put it out on the street that turned this use, which means they will have to publish it and put the bid out for a minimum of 30 days, right, which is their minimum, once Ajax gets those bids back, they will, of course, do the diligence to make sure they're good bids, and then they will be required to submit to us their GMC. 439 00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:40,620 and because this is open book, CMAR, they will have to also submit to us all the bids they 440 00:33:40,620 --> 00:33:41,600 were seeded. 441 00:33:41,700 --> 00:33:45,180 And so for every bid they sent out for each sub, which is going to be a major project, 442 00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:48,180 will also have to get all of that modeling. 443 00:33:48,840 --> 00:33:53,740 But Ajax, they can begin with their internal partners, which is the purpose of the pre-construction 444 00:33:53,740 --> 00:33:57,920 that Commissioner Green and Commissioner Wood wanted, they can begin with their internal partners 445 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:07,860 to estimate the potential cost for the items to see whether or not the cost modeling that CRA has done is accurate. 446 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:11,000 CRA is doing their own cost modeling as they build it out. 447 00:34:11,240 --> 00:34:17,020 They're contracted to cost modeling to ensure that what they build or what they design can be built. 448 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:21,200 Mr. Turner, I appreciate all that, but I'm looking at dates, right? 449 00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:28,020 I need to know, and I guess I need you out to find out from Ajax. 450 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:32,440 Not that they have this signed documents that they've been requesting. 451 00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:42,420 We ain't can we expect for them to have their GMP so that we can vote on it. 452 00:34:42,500 --> 00:34:44,580 That's what I need to know. 453 00:34:46,820 --> 00:34:49,920 And Mr. Chair, if Mr. 454 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:51,440 I don't know. 455 00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,260 Brian, I would appreciate it. 456 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:57,100 Yeah, also too for the, for all the smart people 457 00:34:57,100 --> 00:34:59,520 that listening, GMPs are simple. 458 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:04,880 Stand full guarantee, maximum price. So you go ahead. 459 00:35:09,820 --> 00:35:13,560 Mr. Baptiste, I couldn't have said it any better. You hit the nail in the head. 460 00:35:15,380 --> 00:35:23,640 And just so you know, Ajax has already even though they were waiting on the pre-construction contract to be signed, 461 00:35:23,740 --> 00:35:29,020 they were already moving, having discussions, getting things lined up. So it's not like they're starting from scratch. 462 00:35:29,020 --> 00:35:32,860 I believe it was sent to them Thursday or Friday of last week. 463 00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:33,420 I can't speak. 464 00:35:33,580 --> 00:35:36,320 I just talked to Ajax this morning about it. 465 00:35:36,740 --> 00:35:42,280 When regards to the rest of the documents, we have a meeting with the Sheriff's Office 466 00:35:42,280 --> 00:35:47,360 this Thursday to finalize their old few last minute, I'm not last minute, but a few items 467 00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:53,200 that we need some clarification on specifically dealing with security, their security 468 00:35:53,200 --> 00:36:00,360 of how they want the public safety, what they want there, camera locations, stuff like that. 469 00:36:00,380 --> 00:36:06,280 Once we have that information from them this Thursday, if everything goes according to 470 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:09,880 plan, we will have everything finished up for weeks from this Thursday. 471 00:36:12,020 --> 00:36:15,160 So, weeks from this Thursday, that will be October. 472 00:36:15,220 --> 00:36:16,420 Well, by the leave. 473 00:36:17,260 --> 00:36:17,600 Okay. 474 00:36:17,940 --> 00:36:19,740 Okay, I'm going to put that on my calendar now. 475 00:36:19,940 --> 00:36:20,460 It's been made. 476 00:36:20,700 --> 00:36:21,220 Okay. 477 00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:22,340 Okay. 478 00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:32,620 I was going to say that everything will be ready for the sub-beers, right? 479 00:36:33,540 --> 00:36:36,160 So Ajax is already preparing the bid packages. 480 00:36:36,220 --> 00:36:36,640 Right. 481 00:36:36,980 --> 00:36:37,200 That's that. 482 00:36:38,620 --> 00:36:42,180 It'll just be a function of when everything's done. 483 00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,180 They're pulling out those packages and putting everything in to go out. 484 00:36:45,420 --> 00:36:48,560 Right to go out and then they'll be in and then they come back in. 485 00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,960 after the number of days so that that just want to let you know it's not going to be 486 00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:56,920 a really sick go. We've got to send them out, you know, to get them back. 487 00:36:57,120 --> 00:37:08,440 And there was some discussion. So civil is more come there ahead because there was some talk with the sheriff about wanting to maybe possibly do an early release package with the civil. 488 00:37:09,040 --> 00:37:12,560 We're going to have conversation with Ajax to see if that would. 489 00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:24,800 Since we're only four day or four weeks behind, getting everything done, if that will be that there's any benefit to that, but that might be, since civil is farther along, we can release that bid that ahead of everything else. 490 00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:40,160 And then you'll have a, it'll be an amendment, it'll be a second amendment, because the first amendment would be the GMP that they exhibit, the first GMP, and then we would just submit an exhibit B for the second part for the rest of the building. 491 00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:51,200 But as of right now, if everything this Thursday goes, we get every all the answers we need from the Sheriff's Office, we're looking at about a four-week turnaround to get everything done. 492 00:37:51,820 --> 00:37:53,260 We get the pass on your hand. 493 00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:55,620 Yes, ma'am. 494 00:37:55,980 --> 00:37:56,080 That was. 495 00:37:56,240 --> 00:37:57,400 Okay, let's see. 496 00:37:57,400 --> 00:37:57,500 Let's see. 497 00:37:58,960 --> 00:37:59,640 Mr. Chair. 498 00:38:01,220 --> 00:38:02,620 So with your expertise. 499 00:38:04,100 --> 00:38:06,940 because you all you all are working on quite a few 500 00:38:06,940 --> 00:38:09,640 privacy and gifts and counting with build and for us. 501 00:38:09,740 --> 00:38:12,540 Yes, ma'am. Right. With your expertise, with them 502 00:38:12,540 --> 00:38:16,960 having this information about how long do you think it will 503 00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,300 take? I don't know, you're not speaking for a text, but 504 00:38:20,300 --> 00:38:24,240 just what your expertise. Did you give me a 505 00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:28,420 estimate of when the GMP to the book for approval? 506 00:38:28,420 --> 00:38:43,860 I think the 30 days to bid and then, depending on the scope, again, if we break it out, I'm sorry, if we break it out and do two separate GMPs, there will be less in the first and more in the second. 507 00:38:45,060 --> 00:38:56,820 I would say 30 days to bid and then probably another, I'd give you 15 after they get all their bids back because they've already started, that's the beauty of a CMAR. 508 00:38:56,820 --> 00:38:59,020 they know the market, they know where things are at, 509 00:38:59,020 --> 00:39:00,680 they can go ahead and start penciling in 510 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:02,760 what they think, things are going to come in at. 511 00:39:03,140 --> 00:39:04,940 And so it's not like they're starting from scratch 512 00:39:04,940 --> 00:39:06,360 when they do get their bids in, 513 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:07,560 so when they get the bids in, 514 00:39:07,560 --> 00:39:10,720 it's just changing numbers in their, in their GMP. 515 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,420 So I would say 15 days after they get bids back, 516 00:39:14,500 --> 00:39:17,500 you should hopefully have somewhere around them 15 days. 517 00:39:17,620 --> 00:39:19,740 I should be able to have a GMP to the board. 518 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,240 Okay, all right, thank you. 519 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:22,760 That's a chair. 520 00:39:22,760 --> 00:39:30,000 So I just want to confirm, so when we, for timeline purposes, the 100% plan still has to go to the state and be approved. 521 00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:30,520 Yes, sir. 522 00:39:31,620 --> 00:39:44,200 So we can't, the HX is going to issue a contingent GMP because until the plans are approved by the state, they're not final plans that can be bid on necessarily, right? 523 00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:45,980 We can assume that they're going to share them. 524 00:39:45,980 --> 00:39:50,880 I guess my question, my question just about, I know when I'm working with the administrator is that assuming, 525 00:39:50,880 --> 00:39:56,800 And I imagine a sharefront's building built the most so that Thursday would work well, so you're saying by October 526 00:39:58,520 --> 00:39:59,800 15th is your date. Is it? 527 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:08,660 I had 12. I had 12. It was four weeks from Thursday. I might have had it. October 12th, you guys anticipate 528 00:40:08,660 --> 00:40:16,120 having your 100% set of plans submitted to the state. Yes, sir. Okay. And but please note, those things 529 00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:22,780 can run congruent because while they are bidding the project, you're going to have questions that 530 00:40:22,780 --> 00:40:27,960 come in from service. Hey, what do you mean here? And so we will be issuing addendum addressing those 531 00:40:27,960 --> 00:40:33,420 comments. So the state will be looking at it at the same time we're bidding it. 532 00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:38,400 Or Ajax is bidding it. And then any questions that the state has for us that they 533 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:42,020 want to incorporate in the documents, they'll be rolled right in with any other 534 00:40:42,020 --> 00:40:46,560 addendum that we have to issue the sub. So the bidding and the approval from the state 535 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:50,620 typically run, they don't run. It's not linear. They can run at the same time. 536 00:40:55,780 --> 00:40:58,800 That's pretty good. Thank you very much. Thank you. 537 00:40:58,800 --> 00:41:00,120 Thank you very much. 538 00:41:02,290 --> 00:41:03,710 All right, in other questions? 539 00:41:06,830 --> 00:41:08,090 All right, do we have a motion? 540 00:41:08,790 --> 00:41:09,830 We can have a motion, we can have a second. 541 00:41:11,130 --> 00:41:11,730 All right. 542 00:41:12,410 --> 00:41:13,190 The motion is second. 543 00:41:13,710 --> 00:41:14,550 All the waves are 544 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:17,960 in one of the polls. 545 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:19,580 I am five. 546 00:41:19,740 --> 00:41:20,580 We'll go. 547 00:41:21,900 --> 00:41:25,180 Next, we have 11 C. 548 00:41:26,540 --> 00:41:30,600 I'd love to see Mr. Chairman, the board with this item is presented to the board at 549 00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:34,360 County Commissioner's, but a discussion on the status of the day regarding 550 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:39,420 accountants, consideration of the potential acquisition, and adoption of 551 00:41:39,420 --> 00:41:41,480 Webare Road into the account of road system. 552 00:41:42,340 --> 00:41:45,920 The item provides a rule with a summary of the action taken today. 553 00:41:46,540 --> 00:41:50,920 The history of the request and the status of the process will abolish the 554 00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:54,000 discussion and direction regarding the next steps. 555 00:41:59,440 --> 00:41:59,940 Mr. Chairman? 556 00:42:00,260 --> 00:42:01,220 Yes, Mr. Chairman. 557 00:42:01,320 --> 00:42:01,520 Sure. 558 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:06,580 Mr. Steel, Mr. Administrative. 559 00:42:07,200 --> 00:42:08,580 You may come up. 560 00:42:21,500 --> 00:42:26,460 As you know that this item, those of you that have been here a while have been on the agenda. 561 00:42:27,220 --> 00:42:30,520 And then for months, we weren't on the agenda now. 562 00:42:30,840 --> 00:42:32,100 We were able to get back on the agenda. 563 00:42:32,340 --> 00:42:37,740 This item is the first thing I worked on back in O102. 564 00:42:38,860 --> 00:42:39,900 First thing. 565 00:42:40,180 --> 00:42:48,660 And the hold of this has been that the citizens in the beginning were not willing to give up the land. 566 00:42:48,660 --> 00:42:56,980 for the road. Then it was to acquire the land, several of them would not sign off. So then 567 00:42:56,980 --> 00:43:03,380 it would not sign off. They did, the ones that lived there were willing to sign off, but 568 00:43:03,380 --> 00:43:10,020 they did not own the property. So they were tenants on the property. That got to be a problem. 569 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:17,560 Then the remote recently we worked on getting them to just deed the part of the road. 570 00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:22,880 not their property, just whatever was on the road, if it passed by there, then it signed 571 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:30,180 off on a sample D. And that was the previous Administrator in the previous attorney that 572 00:43:30,180 --> 00:43:37,620 went through those two things. Now what we're trying to do right now, hopefully, is get 573 00:43:37,620 --> 00:43:46,760 the board to agree to adopt as a two that we're done on the previous agendas. We're 574 00:43:46,760 --> 00:43:51,640 role had been way not there for years. Mr. Murray, and several others, we're going to come 575 00:43:51,640 --> 00:43:56,540 up here today, and I told Mr. Murray, I got him to calm down, let us have the discussion 576 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:08,470 and see what we could get going now. On the, we would have to have a degree to adopt 577 00:44:08,470 --> 00:44:14,890 a tentatively on getting those agreements signed off. Now, we can do a petition, I asked Mr. 578 00:44:14,890 --> 00:44:20,910 to do a petition. We were doing one before. They had one before. Those documents were of 579 00:44:20,910 --> 00:44:27,130 stairs and then they were at the public works at one time. Where they are now, they cannot find 580 00:44:27,130 --> 00:44:33,550 them and that is not the citizens out there fault. Change and staff, change and government and 581 00:44:33,550 --> 00:44:41,350 all that. Somehow some of those were misplaced. Now we're looking at right now 26 out of the 30, 582 00:44:41,350 --> 00:44:42,570 I think, Mr. Stia. 583 00:44:44,130 --> 00:44:47,350 So the previous administrator sent 20, I think, 584 00:44:47,350 --> 00:44:51,150 24 letters out, however, some of those appear 585 00:44:51,150 --> 00:44:54,110 to be to the people that were living on the land 586 00:44:54,110 --> 00:44:56,770 at the actual property owners. 587 00:44:56,950 --> 00:44:57,270 Right. 588 00:44:59,250 --> 00:44:59,890 So... 589 00:45:00,270 --> 00:45:28,870 Right, there were ten of us on the property. So now it's going to be to get those to sign off on the road itself. Not their property, not in their yard, but just on the road. And so the hang of the hang of it has been this, if a staff member or a governmental person goes out and said, we need you to sign off to get this road done, you're stepping over on the taking of land. 590 00:45:28,870 --> 00:45:36,410 Either one of them can say, I was forced to, or I was asked to, and I was afraid not to sign off. 591 00:45:36,870 --> 00:45:39,170 Then you get into the legal side of that. 592 00:45:39,750 --> 00:45:45,530 So what I think of that will work out a lot better because the majority of them have already 593 00:45:45,530 --> 00:45:52,070 to get the others to just sign off and do the simple deeds or simple deed. 594 00:45:52,390 --> 00:45:55,610 It's not a deed of getting footage out for your property. 595 00:45:55,610 --> 00:46:03,570 He's simple in that it's just a road itself, and Mr. State, you may be able to explain it a little bit better if I'm not explaining it correctly. 596 00:46:04,390 --> 00:46:13,430 And also a petition, that way you have to the both documents, because there are other 20, how many, 24? 597 00:46:14,350 --> 00:46:14,830 Correct. 598 00:46:14,830 --> 00:46:20,050 had already signed a simple deed at the previsual turn ahead done. 599 00:46:20,190 --> 00:46:20,830 Yes, I'm sorry. 600 00:46:20,830 --> 00:46:21,630 Let me go ahead. 601 00:46:21,790 --> 00:46:25,870 No, a draft deed was started to be prepared. 602 00:46:26,210 --> 00:46:26,530 Right. 603 00:46:26,670 --> 00:46:29,090 I don't necessarily know if that was ever sent out. 604 00:46:29,390 --> 00:46:32,050 We just have that in the file as a draft deed. 605 00:46:32,710 --> 00:46:34,770 For those 20, some people. 606 00:46:34,890 --> 00:46:35,190 Correct. 607 00:46:35,450 --> 00:46:38,350 Because there were some signatures on some forms before. 608 00:46:39,230 --> 00:46:42,530 I have no copies of any signatures of any. 609 00:46:42,530 --> 00:46:44,830 That's the problem that we're having with this. 610 00:46:45,070 --> 00:46:50,270 They were up there in the office where I think I wouldn't, 611 00:46:50,490 --> 00:46:52,570 but wasn't Ms. Dan's, was the office up there 612 00:46:52,570 --> 00:46:55,070 right at the end of the hallway, right there, 613 00:46:56,630 --> 00:46:58,670 where your assistant is Mr. James. 614 00:47:01,190 --> 00:47:04,210 That was the office of Mr. Hayes had it at one time. 615 00:47:04,310 --> 00:47:05,930 Get office right there. 616 00:47:06,310 --> 00:47:09,610 And that was where, and I called him. 617 00:47:09,910 --> 00:47:12,010 And I asked him, he said that he had turned 618 00:47:12,010 --> 00:47:18,210 document's over. Those are what they were stealing that office when he left. So that's 619 00:47:18,210 --> 00:47:24,630 where we are in the situation. And there was also surveys done, right? 620 00:47:25,410 --> 00:47:30,430 The county did pay for survey to be correct. So then, and the county has been doing what 621 00:47:30,430 --> 00:47:35,790 they need to do as far as that goes. But what we really want to need right now is for permission 622 00:47:35,790 --> 00:47:41,990 for them to go ahead and do the petition as the other roads have done and do that. 623 00:47:41,990 --> 00:47:43,190 be the witness. 624 00:47:45,740 --> 00:47:54,160 I have a question. When you're saying permission because I, on this week, what 625 00:47:54,160 --> 00:48:00,900 is our, because when we're saying like the other roles were done, the citizens have no 626 00:48:00,900 --> 00:48:06,600 those positions, don't say else not that's there. Right. So, and then once the citizens 627 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:13,180 finished, then they submitted their paperwork, is that correct? That's exactly what I'm 628 00:48:13,180 --> 00:48:18,420 talking about. Okay, all right. So, okay, because you keep saying, like, I am 629 00:48:18,420 --> 00:48:23,480 under the impression that I'm just standing. Okay, okay, okay, okay, 630 00:48:23,480 --> 00:48:29,440 because it seems like it's in. No, no, no, no, no. And before, before this was 631 00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:34,780 even recognized, I was able to dig up this old law that said we could go out and 632 00:48:34,780 --> 00:48:40,240 take private roles. This is years ago. And the first one was done was quail roost, 633 00:48:40,240 --> 00:48:49,040 rowed over at the farms. And that quail roots was done. They would have to pay the county for that 634 00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:55,580 road to be done. And they did. They paid their money up front. And they made a difference. We could 635 00:48:55,580 --> 00:48:59,920 pay, but we could take the road. And that's what we did. There was another one I want to say. 636 00:49:01,220 --> 00:49:08,320 Barrono is Barrono, row over in Havana. That process was the same, but the problem came in is that 637 00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:14,640 county paid for a lot of work on that road themselves. That was different from what we had approved 638 00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:21,080 and that was a difference there. But that's how we found that a law that says we could do this. 639 00:49:21,300 --> 00:49:26,160 So that's where we're at now. So you're going to get calls and I think the other Mr. Murray came 640 00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:32,920 now. He was wanting to know what's going on. Not Mr. Murray came out this is nephew. Someone that came. 641 00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:40,880 So, I want to know if they want to know if they do their petition, as they were doing 642 00:49:40,880 --> 00:49:49,340 before, would they be allowed to be accepted by the county as other roles have done? 643 00:49:50,380 --> 00:49:51,180 That's what they want. 644 00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:58,260 I mean, I know that answer the answer is that they want to go through the process, then I mean, 645 00:49:58,260 --> 00:49:59,340 That's right to my constituents. 646 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:07,240 For child broke to our attention. Once they go through the process, then they bring to the work. 647 00:50:07,240 --> 00:50:08,960 Just do the presentation and bring it? 648 00:50:09,240 --> 00:50:13,320 It's in the public works. Once it's in the public works, public works, I look for them. 649 00:50:13,480 --> 00:50:14,980 They can fill out once it's in the public works. 650 00:50:15,080 --> 00:50:17,960 It's in the public works. We bring to the board and the board and the board and the board and the board. 651 00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:24,100 Based on that deal, but they got a complete, but not the home, not the personal owner house now at home. 652 00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:26,480 Personal owner land. Are you owner? 653 00:50:27,500 --> 00:50:28,500 You could be a mobile home. 654 00:50:28,500 --> 00:50:35,100 You know, it could be a mobile home you did and yet you know on the lane press on the principle sign that all the people on the piece of 655 00:50:35,100 --> 00:50:43,200 Now now if I made Mr. Chairman say this, they had a petition already and I've seen a petition. Yeah 656 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:47,120 Now where it is I don't know because it was at the county 657 00:50:47,820 --> 00:50:52,580 All fairness and we got the same people where direct the no no no no no no no no no 658 00:50:52,580 --> 00:50:56,040 I'm not saying it was that at the at the county down there 659 00:50:56,040 --> 00:51:02,180 It was down there at one time and I saw a copy of it up here, but they had their petition done. 660 00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:05,160 Now, if all of them were signed, I don't know. 661 00:51:05,600 --> 00:51:08,120 But there were quite a few that were signed down for that petition. 662 00:51:08,400 --> 00:51:09,580 We had the same problem, Havana. 663 00:51:09,820 --> 00:51:12,760 But I just told them, dude, could they, they didn't know what was going on. 664 00:51:13,100 --> 00:51:14,300 I just told them, I said, don't see it. 665 00:51:14,300 --> 00:51:14,740 Yeah, do another thing. 666 00:51:14,780 --> 00:51:15,140 Yeah, do another thing. 667 00:51:15,300 --> 00:51:18,340 But one day, they walked around through the community. 668 00:51:18,720 --> 00:51:20,700 Just remember, Kurt's room at that time. 669 00:51:21,180 --> 00:51:22,620 I took, walked through the community. 670 00:51:22,620 --> 00:51:26,060 take one day, just take a second at your time. 671 00:51:26,080 --> 00:51:27,960 That's a couple hours at the day. 672 00:51:28,360 --> 00:51:29,560 It just walked through your community, 673 00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:31,140 who have owned that piece of property, 674 00:51:31,340 --> 00:51:32,380 get them to sign it. 675 00:51:32,560 --> 00:51:33,820 They bring it back to public works. 676 00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:36,240 They can be able to put births, 677 00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:37,040 look over it. 678 00:51:37,220 --> 00:51:37,960 Well, they see that. 679 00:51:38,180 --> 00:51:38,560 It's okay. 680 00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:40,300 They bring to the border kind of commission. 681 00:51:41,140 --> 00:51:41,580 Yeah. 682 00:51:42,580 --> 00:51:46,760 But I walk through my constituents and let them know. 683 00:51:47,080 --> 00:51:47,860 And I call them back. 684 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:48,440 I don't know. 685 00:51:48,460 --> 00:51:50,460 Have y'all done this process. 686 00:51:50,460 --> 00:51:57,100 So they would know that that we are strongly supporting what we got going on longest legal, right? 687 00:51:57,420 --> 00:51:59,320 Yeah, and you got to have a lease with 688 00:52:00,020 --> 00:52:06,700 What what I've you got to have 100% of the people correct to the land on the land got to do that 689 00:52:06,700 --> 00:52:12,280 Right now you don't calm us you got to have a 75% right to have a speed bumps 690 00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:14,100 75% of things 691 00:52:14,100 --> 00:52:20,360 You don't do speed bumps. Yeah, okay, ma'am is sure if you said 5%. But they're they're going to they're going to say that they did a 692 00:52:20,360 --> 00:52:21,280 I'll read it. 693 00:52:21,340 --> 00:52:21,920 Oh, I'm saying so. 694 00:52:22,240 --> 00:52:22,340 No. 695 00:52:22,420 --> 00:52:22,820 I understand. 696 00:52:23,180 --> 00:52:26,740 But I'm just saying the only problem that had what it was that we're out of time. 697 00:52:27,060 --> 00:52:27,540 I think. 698 00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:29,720 Let's go ahead and try to tell them. 699 00:52:29,720 --> 00:52:34,020 Just tell them to call the kind of administrative on our public works department and 700 00:52:34,020 --> 00:52:36,900 call the public works department tomorrow and tell them to give them a form. 701 00:52:37,240 --> 00:52:37,900 Sign it. 702 00:52:38,260 --> 00:52:39,140 Everybody done our role. 703 00:52:39,220 --> 00:52:39,720 Sign it. 704 00:52:39,940 --> 00:52:40,620 Who own that piece. 705 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:41,400 Own land. 706 00:52:42,020 --> 00:52:44,240 And next to the role that you're trying to. 707 00:52:44,240 --> 00:52:44,500 Right. 708 00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:45,740 And they've done that. 709 00:52:45,860 --> 00:52:47,360 We've told that again today. 710 00:52:47,480 --> 00:52:49,500 So I just want to bring this before the board. 711 00:52:49,500 --> 00:52:58,480 They all know that we are not trying to hide anything from them, that we are sending that back up, they can go and get started on. 712 00:52:59,100 --> 00:53:05,540 Yeah. Well, long things started process, I think the boy, the boy definitely will approve it. 713 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,520 It was to bring it to us. 714 00:53:07,780 --> 00:53:12,860 I know one thing that in the past, it was something that they had asked the residents to bring it up for standard. 715 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:16,200 That was all in that long. It had to be. 716 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:20,940 And I can tell you that that that that Rube is bad. 717 00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:31,270 Yeah, it's not just taking one is it's going to take one that it's going to take some money to bring the level of that road up. 718 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:39,520 Because one end of the road is pretty good, but the end on the east side can get terrible because it's low line. 719 00:53:40,660 --> 00:53:44,700 Yes, and so I'll just go through the process just a little bit. 720 00:53:44,700 --> 00:53:48,240 The initial step would be that they do the petition. 721 00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:53,000 Once they do the petition, the administrative will send staff out to evaluate the road. 722 00:53:54,080 --> 00:53:58,120 Last time I brought an engineer just to get a better understanding, because that's not my expertise. 723 00:54:00,000 --> 00:54:03,360 Then we'll bring all that information to you. 724 00:54:03,560 --> 00:54:07,000 Let you all make a decision whether you want to consider the petition. 725 00:54:07,300 --> 00:54:10,920 So there's an initial public hearing where you consider the petition. 726 00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:12,620 you're not adopting at that point. 727 00:54:12,700 --> 00:54:15,420 You're just considering that maybe you'll adopt it in the future. 728 00:54:17,220 --> 00:54:21,860 From that point, then the residents, assuming you say, yes, we want to consider this. 729 00:54:22,500 --> 00:54:27,920 Then the residents will have the opportunity to go back and do an engineering, bring the 730 00:54:27,920 --> 00:54:33,760 road up to standard, do any surveys, legal, title, opinion. 731 00:54:33,760 --> 00:54:36,480 OK, but Matt, Matt said this, Mr. Chairman. 732 00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:40,500 Once they'll make sure the commission was so the reason why I say that is because in 733 00:54:40,500 --> 00:54:45,680 five remember years back part of it was is having a raise the road and then where does 734 00:54:45,680 --> 00:54:51,580 the water go and so when you go out there the water goes down into the road which is part of 735 00:54:51,580 --> 00:54:57,200 the problem but when you pick the road up the water may go down that's why I think it's something 736 00:54:57,200 --> 00:54:59,960 the engineer. Yeah. Because it is all. 737 00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:13,080 I think about 20 houses down there. Yes, on that road, but it's another road too. It's one end of it is really bad. And it would help them greatly do it. 738 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:25,140 Okay. I was down there already. I'll commission a hold. Thank you. And if you're correct, it's on there. On the road itself. 739 00:55:27,200 --> 00:55:35,320 We had discussions every time, the roll can be built up in the center, it must drain off to the sides. 740 00:55:35,780 --> 00:55:37,040 And we had that discussion before. 741 00:55:37,540 --> 00:55:40,200 They said, just scrape it, scrape it, scrape it, it's not going to do any good. 742 00:55:40,320 --> 00:55:43,280 If it's flat, it has to drain somewhere. 743 00:55:44,220 --> 00:55:47,700 Now, once it, and we've done that before with two locations, 744 00:55:48,380 --> 00:55:52,820 and you put in wider ditches or squeals, what it calls squeals down that road, 745 00:55:52,820 --> 00:55:55,600 and the water was sitting and then they didn't evaporate, 746 00:55:55,860 --> 00:55:57,620 but they're almost like little ponds inside a road. 747 00:55:58,040 --> 00:56:00,780 If you go over there by where, but Jones property is, 748 00:56:01,140 --> 00:56:03,040 we put in swell, they put in swells there. 749 00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:06,280 And that's why they did not have to have a hold of bond, 750 00:56:06,680 --> 00:56:08,620 because they did it on both sides of the road. 751 00:56:08,900 --> 00:56:12,900 That's why it ditches a little bigger, but that can be done. 752 00:56:13,260 --> 00:56:16,980 The other thing to do is, first of all, get the petition again, 753 00:56:17,100 --> 00:56:19,540 and they're going to have a fit, but let's get that again. 754 00:56:19,540 --> 00:56:25,300 And then make sure that they we found the same process because that's what we had to be with 755 00:56:25,300 --> 00:56:28,940 Quail Rules and Barron of Road if we changed a little bit 756 00:56:29,960 --> 00:56:36,340 Wanted other dead is gonna be you're discriminating against us and so we did I told Miss not that 757 00:56:36,720 --> 00:56:44,240 It's not that that's not we want to do we just want to make sure that your road gets taken care of the other thing is Mr. James is 758 00:56:44,720 --> 00:56:47,740 From a certain point in that road coming out on the south side 759 00:56:47,740 --> 00:56:54,200 I got an easement from the company in Jacksonville to cross their property to get out to U.S. 760 00:56:54,320 --> 00:56:54,680 90. 761 00:56:55,820 --> 00:57:01,060 And so I don't know if that would affect anything, but I don't think it will because I was 762 00:57:01,060 --> 00:57:05,300 able to get that company a little bit about come out there in front of where Brad was, he used 763 00:57:05,300 --> 00:57:10,920 to come all the way down beside down to stones, with stones, with his car dealership and it 764 00:57:10,920 --> 00:57:12,220 came out right there. 765 00:57:12,520 --> 00:57:15,980 So I was able to get that company to go ahead and give us easement to get a little straight 766 00:57:15,980 --> 00:57:16,720 out. 767 00:57:16,720 --> 00:57:20,400 But anyway, I asked the engineer before, and he said, 768 00:57:20,540 --> 00:57:23,240 oh, I said, can you look at it and see? 769 00:57:23,540 --> 00:57:26,720 And then give us a, give us an evaluation and everything. 770 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:30,700 Just like any other road, but okay, that's what I was asking. 771 00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:35,640 I also, too, for a kind of administrative goal, just for public assumption, 772 00:57:35,740 --> 00:57:40,680 I just want to make sure that everybody knows that once we changed our policy 773 00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:45,740 there, Mr. Wood, now by us taking over the road, that doesn't mean 774 00:57:45,740 --> 00:57:48,620 that we are want to pay the road. 775 00:57:48,640 --> 00:57:49,040 Right. 776 00:57:49,060 --> 00:57:49,880 Taking over the road. 777 00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:51,960 That's not what we're going to make sure that, you know, 778 00:57:52,020 --> 00:57:54,500 put a rain, y'all know how you did back in the days. 779 00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:56,640 What's the rain in? 780 00:57:56,760 --> 00:57:58,680 A day or two or four of rain would come down straight 781 00:57:58,680 --> 00:57:59,580 in the road. 782 00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,560 I can't get a muddy in there, right? 783 00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:04,320 Yeah, but you know, we try to make sure you put a rain 784 00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,100 in whatever it's the same time. 785 00:58:06,420 --> 00:58:09,000 We, you know, if we have fun and we probably 786 00:58:09,000 --> 00:58:12,200 started with rocks first, whatever to get it, you know? 787 00:58:12,360 --> 00:58:13,760 What we've just get in that. 788 00:58:14,180 --> 00:58:15,240 First of all, we want to prove first. 789 00:58:15,780 --> 00:58:17,940 right, there you go, get to get in for them. 790 00:58:18,240 --> 00:58:20,520 And then we can strip it and do all the great things. 791 00:58:20,660 --> 00:58:23,140 So they can, because I was there at the left, 792 00:58:23,520 --> 00:58:27,160 the Montro game, I went to Montro football game last week. 793 00:58:27,940 --> 00:58:31,060 That Friday, I went to church over there 794 00:58:31,060 --> 00:58:33,320 in Pasta Appreciation Service. 795 00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:35,360 And I mean, I was scared to have the death. 796 00:58:35,560 --> 00:58:35,740 It was right. 797 00:58:36,780 --> 00:58:39,840 So I had to drive different areas just to get to the church. 798 00:58:40,800 --> 00:58:43,620 And so the road needs help and support. 799 00:58:43,620 --> 00:58:48,960 But again, all fairness, it's not saying I'm going to pay the roll. 800 00:58:49,020 --> 00:58:51,800 You just have to take over the roll and maintain the roll. 801 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:53,860 That's what they could be able to go in and out. 802 00:58:54,060 --> 00:58:54,480 Okay. 803 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:55,440 I appreciate it. 804 00:58:55,540 --> 00:58:56,700 We can get you call the question. 805 00:58:58,060 --> 00:58:59,400 Can we get all the information out? 806 00:58:59,760 --> 00:59:00,760 You have something to say first. 807 00:59:01,020 --> 00:59:02,520 I'm just going to call the question. 808 00:59:03,140 --> 00:59:03,700 That's right. 809 00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:04,180 Wait. 810 00:59:04,860 --> 00:59:06,340 We'll need to call the question on discussion. 811 00:59:06,840 --> 00:59:07,440 But I'll do it. 812 00:59:07,600 --> 00:59:08,020 I'm sorry. 813 00:59:08,580 --> 00:59:09,860 I want to make sure we clear. 814 00:59:11,100 --> 00:59:17,700 So I'm clear now, because I was hoping to say that she even worked on this in 2001. 815 00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:18,340 Did you say that? 816 00:59:18,620 --> 00:59:19,640 I started this before. 817 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:24,540 I got on the commission and the problem was there was no problem. 818 00:59:24,780 --> 00:59:26,040 So make sure I'm clear. 819 00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:31,960 So the problem is they did petitions just in, but they didn't get the landowners. 820 00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:32,560 Is it that right? 821 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,260 They just bit some of them. 822 00:59:35,380 --> 00:59:35,800 Some of them. 823 00:59:35,860 --> 00:59:36,900 So that's where it broke down. 824 00:59:36,900 --> 00:59:49,000 I've read your timeline. Based on board records, I couldn't find anything. That was brought up to the board prior to 2016 and it was never a 825 00:59:50,380 --> 00:59:59,840 public hearing regarding the petition. The ordinance was amended in 2021. But there was never a public hearing. That portion never. 826 01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:11,360 So, it at least never got that far. Whether an administrator decided, you know, it wasn't ripe for bringing to the bull or what was it miss. 827 01:00:12,600 --> 01:00:29,160 But we do not have a copy of the petitions. And I know that there have been properties purchased since 2016 that were not included in the petition. 828 01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:31,640 Yeah, Mr. Chairman. 829 01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:32,460 Yes, ma'am. 830 01:00:33,080 --> 01:00:37,120 Yeah, the road has been brought up over the years, several times. 831 01:00:38,140 --> 01:00:45,420 Now, the only thing is, is that I even sent out letters to those property owners 832 01:00:45,420 --> 01:00:47,300 that did not live here. 833 01:00:47,520 --> 01:00:49,840 And I don't know if any of that's in the in your records. 834 01:00:50,320 --> 01:00:52,720 But we sent those out so we could say, 835 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:54,580 Would y'all please, sad? 836 01:00:54,860 --> 01:00:55,800 Or, you know, we didn't say. 837 01:00:56,260 --> 01:00:56,560 That was wrong. 838 01:00:56,660 --> 01:00:57,100 That was wrong. 839 01:00:57,100 --> 01:00:58,020 The person that was here. 840 01:00:58,080 --> 01:00:59,220 Press Neo did it. 841 01:00:59,460 --> 01:01:00,480 McCannon did it. 842 01:01:00,560 --> 01:01:03,160 So I don't know where those records are, but they all did it. 843 01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:03,320 Yeah. 844 01:01:03,420 --> 01:01:04,420 But thank you. 845 01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:05,360 But that was the use, right? 846 01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:06,560 That was 2016 though. 847 01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:07,360 Mm-hmm. 848 01:01:07,460 --> 01:01:08,100 I was 2016. 849 01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:11,780 We did some other stuff and there's nothing showing up. 850 01:01:12,340 --> 01:01:16,440 Well, I think that way, because I'm excited about it, that we hold this conversation. 851 01:01:17,180 --> 01:01:19,380 And hopefully we can get this more, we're going to move it forward. 852 01:01:20,360 --> 01:01:23,260 So that role definitely be rescued, something in a way. 853 01:01:23,280 --> 01:01:23,620 Mm-hmm. 854 01:01:23,620 --> 01:01:25,340 I'm excited about it. 855 01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:26,160 Okay. 856 01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:28,400 Thank you, thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 857 01:01:28,500 --> 01:01:29,780 Thank you, thank you. Thank you, thank you, Mr. 858 01:01:29,860 --> 01:01:31,160 student. You had things to do? 859 01:01:31,260 --> 01:01:33,240 No, sir. Oh yeah. And the engineer. 860 01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:35,220 He needs to look at it. 861 01:01:35,240 --> 01:01:36,620 That's both supportive and engineering. 862 01:01:36,860 --> 01:01:38,940 I think he's been engineering that first though. 863 01:01:39,400 --> 01:01:39,840 Yeah. Yeah. 864 01:01:40,900 --> 01:01:41,200 All right. 865 01:01:43,570 --> 01:01:45,010 So, you know, be great one day. 866 01:01:45,130 --> 01:01:47,830 We can hire an engineer on site. 867 01:01:48,170 --> 01:01:50,450 Sometimes consider, because I'll probably say he's a man 868 01:01:50,450 --> 01:01:52,030 to have a candidate, probably. 869 01:01:52,070 --> 01:01:53,950 If we can afford him. 870 01:01:53,990 --> 01:01:55,150 Some think about him. 871 01:01:56,250 --> 01:01:59,430 That's in that loud, so hopefully we're about to think about that. 872 01:01:59,850 --> 01:02:04,830 All right, so, all right, so now we go, 873 01:02:04,990 --> 01:02:06,930 that's that's a great discussion too as well. 874 01:02:07,590 --> 01:02:08,510 Now, Levin D. 875 01:02:09,470 --> 01:02:12,130 Levin D, Chairman of the Board, 876 01:02:12,210 --> 01:02:13,950 this agenda item seeks board authorization 877 01:02:13,950 --> 01:02:16,790 to hear some written notice of none renewal 878 01:02:16,790 --> 01:02:19,490 and termination of the flock safety agreement, 879 01:02:19,990 --> 01:02:23,210 the flock group ink for the gas and county sheriff's office 880 01:02:23,210 --> 01:02:29,590 affected by an expiration of the current renewal term, which is October 20, 26. 881 01:02:31,130 --> 01:02:32,230 I can't wait to talk to you. 882 01:02:33,190 --> 01:02:33,890 I'll come in. 883 01:02:33,890 --> 01:02:33,950 I'll come in. 884 01:02:34,370 --> 01:02:37,990 Question, is he going to replace with another company? 885 01:02:38,830 --> 01:02:40,450 Or did he say anything? 886 01:02:40,910 --> 01:02:42,350 Because we got some safety areas, 887 01:02:42,510 --> 01:02:44,210 and kind of wants some cameras there. 888 01:02:45,470 --> 01:02:46,150 Oh, well. 889 01:02:46,570 --> 01:02:47,030 But I'm just kidding. 890 01:02:47,030 --> 01:02:47,170 Yeah. 891 01:02:47,250 --> 01:02:48,970 And he can't admit that he wanted to replace. 892 01:02:50,030 --> 01:02:52,370 I mean, I think he made a statement that he was not interested. 893 01:02:52,370 --> 01:02:54,070 Yeah, it doesn't have to be these kind, 894 01:02:54,210 --> 01:02:57,170 but I'm just saying if he's gonna put something out there. 895 01:02:58,250 --> 01:02:58,370 Okay. 896 01:02:58,570 --> 01:03:01,050 We know DOT, they end them. 897 01:03:01,090 --> 01:03:01,390 Great. 898 01:03:02,510 --> 01:03:03,390 I'm ways so. 899 01:03:06,510 --> 01:03:07,790 Well, how do you think of these things? 900 01:03:07,790 --> 01:03:08,350 These are other questions? 901 01:03:08,530 --> 01:03:09,150 That's it. 902 01:03:09,230 --> 01:03:09,930 I'm Chris Green. 903 01:03:10,350 --> 01:03:11,750 They're all very similar to the question. 904 01:03:12,190 --> 01:03:14,790 I also was a week, I'm sure we all were the band, 905 01:03:15,530 --> 01:03:17,430 but I didn't know if there were any other solutions 906 01:03:18,410 --> 01:03:22,150 that had any conversations that any of you have heard of 907 01:03:22,150 --> 01:03:27,390 as it relates to replacing those, my no-commissioned world is still kind of key in on 908 01:03:27,390 --> 01:03:32,150 public safety stuff with this mysterious and expertise and connections. So I was 909 01:03:32,150 --> 01:03:37,730 wasn't sure if there was any other objectives or options in conversation in the future 910 01:03:37,730 --> 01:03:43,610 because there were pros as well as, I guess, more cons than pros but there was some pros 911 01:03:43,610 --> 01:03:48,210 to have in those cameras. So have anybody heard of anything 912 01:03:48,210 --> 01:03:49,570 conversation and why is 913 01:03:52,450 --> 01:03:53,010 that? 914 01:03:53,030 --> 01:03:54,830 Commissioner of, uh, 915 01:03:59,240 --> 01:03:59,240 uh, 916 01:03:59,360 --> 01:04:02,040 Mr. Anyone have been comments on that? 917 01:04:03,610 --> 01:04:04,330 I do. 918 01:04:04,330 --> 01:04:04,870 I do. 919 01:04:04,870 --> 01:04:05,050 I do. 920 01:04:05,450 --> 01:04:06,630 Anybody have answers? 921 01:04:07,150 --> 01:04:08,230 I don't have any answers. 922 01:04:09,190 --> 01:04:12,350 But I was wondering because I know a couple of, 923 01:04:12,350 --> 01:04:15,850 a couple of crimes that they had done, 924 01:04:15,850 --> 01:04:16,670 they solved. 925 01:04:16,910 --> 01:04:19,950 They used camera footage and stuff like that. 926 01:04:20,250 --> 01:04:21,970 So if there's a need for them, 927 01:04:22,270 --> 01:04:24,670 is there a grant or what they're going to put some back? 928 01:04:24,670 --> 01:04:25,590 What? 929 01:04:28,240 --> 01:04:29,740 That's what I was wondering about. 930 01:04:30,380 --> 01:04:33,320 Yes, there's a very similar question that we just don't have those answers. 931 01:04:33,920 --> 01:04:36,760 Yes, there's some hard burns, I think, through a state in... 932 01:04:37,280 --> 01:04:38,980 Yeah, not that kind, but I'm just saying... 933 01:04:38,980 --> 01:04:39,660 I'm just saying... 934 01:04:40,500 --> 01:04:42,660 It's a different kind of, I thought, to share it to heart. 935 01:04:43,160 --> 01:04:48,560 There's some safety concerns within the flawed cameras for modern standards. 936 01:04:49,180 --> 01:04:51,760 So, privacy concerns. 937 01:04:52,100 --> 01:04:54,620 So, I'm not sure whether or not... 938 01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,380 It's a huge work to squeeze and swallow a lot of shapes, which is just moving. 939 01:04:58,800 --> 01:04:59,960 Back was on that a little bit. 940 01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:03,360 But it's good to have this conversation. 941 01:05:04,180 --> 01:05:04,440 Yeah. 942 01:05:04,440 --> 01:05:07,620 And because we want to make sure, public safety is number one. 943 01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:11,000 I wanted to share for guest kind of board of counter commission, commission, wood, whatever. 944 01:05:11,780 --> 01:05:15,720 We don't listen what he got to say when it comes down to things like this. 945 01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:20,800 Because we understand that he worked in that capacity. Everybody got the expertise on his board. 946 01:05:21,260 --> 01:05:26,940 And we make sure we listen carefully from the board who have expertise more than one else. 947 01:05:27,240 --> 01:05:29,500 So anyone else, Mr. Commissioner, would you have anything to say? 948 01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:40,100 So I spent many years as a law enforcement bureau chief in Gaston County and one of the toughest things was 949 01:05:40,100 --> 01:05:44,600 I was sitting with that mom after her child had been a victim in a violent crime 950 01:05:46,340 --> 01:05:54,100 And you sat there and you waited and you waited and you prayed that something would break that they would get some kind of satisfaction 951 01:05:55,100 --> 01:05:57,860 And with this tool came out I was so excited 952 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:06,020 And currently, I mean, it's like three or four homicides over the last couple of years 953 01:06:06,020 --> 01:06:07,920 at these cameras have helped solve. 954 01:06:08,820 --> 01:06:14,060 All of your districts have had major crimes to where a camera had been solved. 955 01:06:14,960 --> 01:06:23,220 The two violent murders at the interstate, Ethan Pritchard, your FSU ball player, sat hearing. 956 01:06:23,220 --> 01:06:28,750 And I tell you this and this is going to be the question of this. 957 01:06:30,130 --> 01:06:36,830 When little four-year-old Susan gets kidnapped and we're all sitting around wanting to know what 958 01:06:36,830 --> 01:06:45,410 you do, we have taken one of the most vital items that we have to secure safety. 959 01:06:46,990 --> 01:06:48,610 We have taken it out of play. 960 01:06:49,980 --> 01:06:58,840 And I think what's going to happen is that once one happens in the moms start questioning, 961 01:06:59,140 --> 01:07:00,640 why don't you have them? 962 01:07:02,600 --> 01:07:03,620 This is going to be a problem. 963 01:07:04,860 --> 01:07:07,880 When that terrorist is coming, the terrorist thinks coming, guys. 964 01:07:08,760 --> 01:07:10,640 And when it does, you're going to say, you know what? 965 01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:16,700 Then cameras may have been prevented or even caught the people. 966 01:07:16,700 --> 01:07:23,560 Because one thing I know about criminals, especially those that are violent to children, they go 967 01:07:23,560 --> 01:07:25,400 until you catch them. 968 01:07:26,380 --> 01:07:28,900 And that's what those cameras have done for us. 969 01:07:29,380 --> 01:07:33,460 So the problem becomes police officers. 970 01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:43,260 And the fact that quite often they're using them for reasons that they should not use them 971 01:07:43,260 --> 01:07:44,020 for. 972 01:07:44,020 --> 01:07:50,080 It's nothing new, the David system we have, they put check and balances in place. 973 01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:59,900 So my suggestion is, is I would ask state leaders to revisit this and don't kill this 974 01:07:59,900 --> 01:08:07,100 piece of investigative tool that you have, fix the problem with the David system when they 975 01:08:07,100 --> 01:08:12,540 to start getting fired and going to jail, guess what happened? They quit abusing it. 976 01:08:13,940 --> 01:08:20,500 And so I hear what is being said across the state. I also worry that so many high-ranking 977 01:08:20,500 --> 01:08:26,140 constitutional officers are talking about that it might be unconstitutional. And so how many of 978 01:08:26,140 --> 01:08:31,940 these cases now are we going to have to bring back? I would ask these people to be careful 979 01:08:33,140 --> 01:08:36,140 And I hope that, in state later, another problem 980 01:08:36,140 --> 01:08:39,140 I'm not listening to, all major words here in Gas to County. 981 01:08:39,980 --> 01:08:44,020 But I'm hoping they revisit this decision. 982 01:08:44,980 --> 01:08:46,720 I hope they fix it. 983 01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:50,060 That's all I have to say. 984 01:08:50,880 --> 01:08:51,860 Well, Chris Hope. 985 01:08:51,860 --> 01:08:52,560 Thank you. 986 01:08:52,700 --> 01:08:54,880 That's why I asked what are they going to replace them with? 987 01:08:54,980 --> 01:08:58,840 Because I know they captured a young man over, 988 01:08:58,940 --> 01:09:00,180 not far from Gratna. 989 01:09:00,860 --> 01:09:02,540 And that's how they call it. 990 01:09:02,720 --> 01:09:03,020 Yes. 991 01:09:03,020 --> 01:09:07,980 And he had already killed someone and was on the run. 992 01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:11,500 So how do you, what are you going to replace him with? 993 01:09:11,800 --> 01:09:14,120 There's not enough, there's not enough officers. 994 01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:18,600 Well, even if they were, do you work on the death, you know? 995 01:09:19,200 --> 01:09:25,560 But they're not going to be able to see 360 degrees in places where you need them. 996 01:09:26,020 --> 01:09:29,820 So, you may have fringe upon your constitutional rights, 997 01:09:29,820 --> 01:09:33,820 But if somebody gets murdered, their constitutional rights are taking away. 998 01:09:34,800 --> 01:09:40,160 I don't think we're doing this, personally. You're in playing view. You're not in your own house. 999 01:09:40,560 --> 01:09:44,500 You're within your car, you are. But on the rubber guy ways, you're not. 1000 01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:47,340 Well, I don't think it's a good idea. 1001 01:09:48,820 --> 01:09:49,820 Anyway, let's go. 1002 01:09:50,820 --> 01:09:53,800 I'm pushing. I guess we have to move with it. And there's nothing. 1003 01:09:54,220 --> 01:09:57,780 We really can do about not supporting it. Unfortunately, 1004 01:09:57,780 --> 01:09:59,780 There is no solution of 1005 01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:07,260 We're placing it at this point, but it's one of those things that we pretty much have to move forward with it, but thank you. 1006 01:10:07,440 --> 01:10:12,000 Yeah, I think that we just need to learn more about learning more into it. 1007 01:10:13,120 --> 01:10:21,440 And just too many state leaders and more enforcement officers have some heartburns about it. 1008 01:10:21,540 --> 01:10:27,720 And so hopefully we can help discussion and fight and find out how we can come on the solution for this. 1009 01:10:28,260 --> 01:10:28,460 All right. 1010 01:10:28,460 --> 01:10:30,460 So, do you have a motion? 1011 01:10:32,610 --> 01:10:33,550 It's just for information. 1012 01:10:34,310 --> 01:10:34,390 No. 1013 01:10:35,210 --> 01:10:35,670 Mr. Chair. 1014 01:10:36,230 --> 01:10:38,230 And we need a motion without a motion. 1015 01:10:38,450 --> 01:10:40,290 This agreement is set for you and October 1st. 1016 01:10:40,370 --> 01:10:42,610 You guys are a bill of 77 plus. 1017 01:10:42,650 --> 01:10:51,830 Well, I'll make the motion that we approve this agenda to approve a termination of flawed cameras with things to can. 1018 01:10:53,310 --> 01:10:53,890 No, second. 1019 01:10:55,270 --> 01:10:56,550 We have a motion to second. 1020 01:10:57,010 --> 01:10:57,690 All in favor, sir? 1021 01:10:57,690 --> 01:11:02,140 Do you want to pose? No. 1022 01:11:02,620 --> 01:11:04,140 All right, for one vote, 1023 01:11:07,220 --> 01:11:08,800 I'll write it. 1024 01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:11,380 I hope we can give some other, like you said, other alternatives, 1025 01:11:12,460 --> 01:11:14,580 because the state is called the safety concern. 1026 01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:17,180 All right, I'll let it eat. 1027 01:11:17,360 --> 01:11:19,260 Let me need this agenda item. 1028 01:11:19,460 --> 01:11:21,200 Seats boarder pool, negotiated contract, 1029 01:11:21,820 --> 01:11:25,920 and GMP with tip-top construction for the Havana Medical Center. 1030 01:11:29,300 --> 01:11:29,680 Thank you. 1031 01:11:30,280 --> 01:11:30,620 Okay. 1032 01:11:30,620 --> 01:11:38,120 We have a motion in a second to approve the contract and guarantee maximum price 1033 01:11:39,300 --> 01:11:43,740 MPGMP will tip-top construction for Havana Medical Center. 1034 01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:44,620 All right? 1035 01:11:44,620 --> 01:11:45,660 They're going to have to go ahead. 1036 01:11:46,000 --> 01:11:47,400 And we have, yes, telehealth. 1037 01:11:47,420 --> 01:11:48,460 This is going to take telehealth. 1038 01:11:50,140 --> 01:11:54,560 And all the features are in one of polls. 1039 01:11:55,420 --> 01:11:56,740 All right, five will vote. 1040 01:11:56,740 --> 01:12:07,440 Next. Next we have 11 elf. Move approval. Yeah, that's dark. 1041 01:12:08,920 --> 01:12:18,830 It's a second. A double second of motion a second to approve 11 elf and a second 1042 01:12:18,830 --> 01:12:26,310 all the time. And want to pose. What he's called that much money for a door. Good, go 1043 01:12:26,310 --> 01:12:33,250 to go. I was recomplex. That's almost a quarter of me. No, I mean, I'm in a 1044 01:12:33,250 --> 01:12:35,950 wrong business. I'm letting them walk out the door. 1045 01:12:39,050 --> 01:12:40,670 I've had that happen down there. 1046 01:12:41,050 --> 01:12:46,790 Wow. Okay. All the fifth side, right? You want to pose? All right. Five will vote. 1047 01:12:46,810 --> 01:12:52,630 I've got to spin that one. 11G. This is a United States border pool. You should notice 1048 01:12:52,630 --> 01:12:55,690 of intent to award, and then notice of award, 1049 01:12:56,130 --> 01:12:58,730 enter negotiate the contract with Cook Brothers in, 1050 01:12:58,810 --> 01:13:02,470 propose of an ITB for the old courthouse 1051 01:13:02,470 --> 01:13:04,590 from innovation phase two. 1052 01:13:06,250 --> 01:13:07,250 West, oh, of course. 1053 01:13:08,370 --> 01:13:12,050 All right, but, you know, I'm still a circle in the last 1054 01:13:12,050 --> 01:13:13,210 of the United States. 1055 01:13:13,430 --> 01:13:15,010 No matter what the door is, is it so? 1056 01:13:15,490 --> 01:13:15,530 Yeah. 1057 01:13:15,970 --> 01:13:16,570 They got it. 1058 01:13:16,910 --> 01:13:20,070 All right, Mr. Hope, then Commissioner Simkins. 1059 01:13:20,070 --> 01:13:25,750 It's out, please tell me where they're going to fix on the courthouse because over the years 1060 01:13:25,750 --> 01:13:28,250 we've had several different courthouse renovations. 1061 01:13:29,090 --> 01:13:29,710 Why for a second? 1062 01:13:29,810 --> 01:13:34,610 In the past, they are peeling on this side of the courthouse and now we've done some stuff 1063 01:13:34,610 --> 01:13:40,290 I know before inside the courthouse but what are some things that are going to be done 1064 01:13:40,290 --> 01:13:41,310 Mr. James? 1065 01:13:41,310 --> 01:13:50,930 Well, I said, when the replacement seal stops, landing, clean, uh, flooring, the roof, all that's listed. 1066 01:13:51,210 --> 01:13:52,410 Hang it. 1067 01:13:52,930 --> 01:13:56,230 And me they're going to get it going to take that stuff down and they're going to paint it. 1068 01:13:56,610 --> 01:13:57,690 And make it look better. 1069 01:13:58,230 --> 01:13:59,130 All right. 1070 01:13:59,370 --> 01:13:59,590 So. 1071 01:14:01,290 --> 01:14:03,570 There's no problem with the restrooms and everything. 1072 01:14:03,810 --> 01:14:04,870 We did that one time. 1073 01:14:06,250 --> 01:14:08,370 So we want to make sure that they, they're in the threshold. 1074 01:14:09,530 --> 01:14:19,450 It's going to be, it's going to be, it's going to be, it's going to be, it's going to be within what the number's here. Right, absolutely. So we're going to put it in a more, no hiding in it. Let's get it coming to the board. Right. 1075 01:14:19,890 --> 01:14:21,250 All right. Come on. Come on. Just hold it. I'm sorry. 1076 01:14:21,390 --> 01:14:21,850 That's OK. 1077 01:14:25,030 --> 01:14:37,630 That was going to be my question because I see the beads or we're at reward at the 500 and with what we contribute at 625 and looking at the beads. 1078 01:14:37,630 --> 01:14:45,710 They're both over there, so we can go straight down to what we have. 1079 01:14:46,050 --> 01:14:48,250 I do want to send a bit of that guy again. 1080 01:14:48,970 --> 01:14:51,150 Well, Mr. Chair, I think that we sent this out as a... 1081 01:14:51,910 --> 01:14:52,570 It's okay. 1082 01:14:53,010 --> 01:14:57,270 We sent it out as a ITB at the direction of the state. 1083 01:14:57,810 --> 01:14:59,930 But I can assure this board that to the extent the board. 1084 01:15:00,400 --> 01:15:19,760 Authorizes me in the negotiator to negotiate it. We will not accept a number that is more than the county's match. The county already has a match for the grant that we will ensure that we bring a recommendation back to this board, which you have to come back for your approval that doesn't exceed the grant match, which I believe is a hundred twenty five. 1085 01:15:19,780 --> 01:15:27,720 That's twenty five. If we can't do that, we might have to do exactly what you're saying, put it back out to bid. But I anticipate that we'll be able to do it under the match. 1086 01:15:27,720 --> 01:15:29,260 I don't know the problem. 1087 01:15:30,100 --> 01:15:31,780 You all right? 1088 01:15:31,780 --> 01:15:32,040 All right. 1089 01:15:34,080 --> 01:15:34,700 Give me some words. 1090 01:15:35,020 --> 01:15:36,680 Just calm me up for Kirk Brothers. 1091 01:15:37,060 --> 01:15:38,440 They're moving on my facility. 1092 01:15:39,640 --> 01:15:39,880 Yeah. 1093 01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:42,000 I'm over there. 1094 01:15:42,000 --> 01:15:42,920 Move as fast. 1095 01:15:44,400 --> 01:15:44,880 Thank you. 1096 01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:47,720 I know he probably is this conversation now. 1097 01:15:48,940 --> 01:15:50,660 I know because he's been called me all week. 1098 01:15:50,660 --> 01:15:52,020 I haven't trained his phone call yet. 1099 01:15:52,180 --> 01:15:53,260 But tip-top construction. 1100 01:15:54,180 --> 01:15:56,540 They move and I've had a lot of beer. 1101 01:15:56,540 --> 01:16:02,680 I see a lot of building being built to it as well, so they, I think they're going to be cook brothers before. 1102 01:16:03,880 --> 01:16:10,280 I mean, cook brothers like Mr. Chair, Mr. Chair, I told them that I love and the competition. 1103 01:16:10,700 --> 01:16:11,540 They're looking for what they can do. 1104 01:16:12,180 --> 01:16:15,620 Hey, the cook brothers have had a four or five months here at startup. 1105 01:16:16,480 --> 01:16:21,060 And how tip-top construction doing that, they're now even in the rain, 1106 01:16:21,360 --> 01:16:23,140 look like making sure this thing works. 1107 01:16:23,140 --> 01:16:26,280 So, if they finished the folder magic of, 1108 01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:31,120 oh, man, I mean, it's been, I had to throw that out of the place. 1109 01:16:31,560 --> 01:16:33,000 They really, much of them all cook, I mean, 1110 01:16:33,120 --> 01:16:33,540 that's good. 1111 01:16:33,740 --> 01:16:36,080 I'm just, they do that courthouse, we do with it. 1112 01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:39,100 Yeah, we do have a motion flow for the courthouse. 1113 01:16:39,200 --> 01:16:40,660 Well, as we digress again. 1114 01:16:41,380 --> 01:16:42,520 That, that's second, yeah. 1115 01:16:42,700 --> 01:16:46,820 Most of the second, but with the, give the flexibility 1116 01:16:46,820 --> 01:16:51,340 for the staff to look at it, and if we go, 1117 01:16:51,340 --> 01:16:52,480 We're back to the boy. 1118 01:16:52,740 --> 01:16:53,940 It don't work, right? 1119 01:16:54,180 --> 01:16:54,540 All right. 1120 01:16:55,020 --> 01:16:56,020 All in people's eye? 1121 01:16:56,100 --> 01:16:56,540 Yeah. 1122 01:16:56,720 --> 01:16:57,600 And want to pose? 1123 01:16:58,580 --> 01:16:59,820 All right, Fabel vote? 1124 01:17:02,990 --> 01:17:03,650 11-8. 1125 01:17:06,380 --> 01:17:07,000 Oh, 7. 1126 01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:08,720 Yeah, 11 is 11. 1127 01:17:09,080 --> 01:17:09,640 8, right? 1128 01:17:11,580 --> 01:17:11,800 11. 1129 01:17:12,040 --> 01:17:12,320 11. 1130 01:17:12,820 --> 01:17:13,060 11-8. 1131 01:17:14,060 --> 01:17:14,300 11. 1132 01:17:24,400 --> 01:17:25,360 11-8. 1133 01:17:25,360 --> 01:17:25,780 11-8. 1134 01:17:25,780 --> 01:17:25,860 11-8. 1135 01:17:25,860 --> 01:17:25,900 11-8. 1136 01:17:25,900 --> 01:17:32,900 Mrs. Keisha, who you like Keisha, come up and talk about and answer questions if need be. 1137 01:17:34,020 --> 01:17:34,800 Excuse me. 1138 01:17:34,940 --> 01:17:35,840 Thank you. 1139 01:17:41,680 --> 01:17:42,160 Good evening. 1140 01:17:43,060 --> 01:17:46,380 So this is just a supplement agreement to extend the time. 1141 01:17:46,560 --> 01:17:48,620 It actually expires October 31. 1142 01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:54,280 And the reason we're extending it is because it's a DLT for comments once they come back. 1143 01:17:54,420 --> 01:17:55,240 We have to do comments. 1144 01:17:55,680 --> 01:17:57,320 So you have a two week window to do comments. 1145 01:17:57,600 --> 01:17:59,580 And so that we don't get an issue of it. 1146 01:18:00,420 --> 01:18:05,340 expiring before we get everything done, we just went ahead and extended it. So it's an extension to 1147 01:18:05,340 --> 01:18:08,880 Decent with 31st, but that does not mean that we're going to take that long. The wonder 1148 01:18:08,880 --> 01:18:13,720 percent have already been submitted and we're just waiting for the comment period. So it's no fiscal impact. 1149 01:18:13,980 --> 01:18:19,620 It's the same amount of money that was originally approved. And the same money is on the supplement as well. 1150 01:18:19,820 --> 01:18:27,300 I'm a little too. I'll second it. Question. Tell us, tell the people what that is this is about. 1151 01:18:27,300 --> 01:18:28,480 Just by one now. 1152 01:18:28,480 --> 01:18:28,980 The center? 1153 01:18:29,560 --> 01:18:30,080 Yeah, the center. 1154 01:18:30,520 --> 01:18:34,800 So it's a multi-use trail that's going to go from arm. 1155 01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:35,400 I'm bridge. 1156 01:18:35,460 --> 01:18:37,300 I'm bridge to... 1157 01:18:37,300 --> 01:18:39,600 One that's going to come through with his wheel. 1158 01:18:40,180 --> 01:18:43,040 Actually, actually, it's for it to connect from one end to floor to the other. 1159 01:18:43,740 --> 01:18:46,560 Yeah, it's actually coming from I'm bridge and Havana. 1160 01:18:46,860 --> 01:18:47,240 Conquins. 1161 01:18:47,280 --> 01:18:50,180 Then, when you get there, you can't roll and make a lap. 1162 01:18:50,540 --> 01:18:51,300 That's on trail. 1163 01:18:51,860 --> 01:18:53,320 Then, go all through Quinset. 1164 01:18:53,540 --> 01:18:54,020 On the trail. 1165 01:18:54,020 --> 01:18:57,040 and to touch Chattagooji, what that we can get 1166 01:18:57,040 --> 01:19:00,140 we can help people to write the bags. 1167 01:19:00,620 --> 01:19:01,240 So to get you into the bag. 1168 01:19:01,240 --> 01:19:02,360 And walking too. 1169 01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:03,440 Yeah, I'm walking. 1170 01:19:03,840 --> 01:19:06,300 The other thing I want to ask is, 1171 01:19:06,660 --> 01:19:08,580 did you hear anything about the Spanish trail 1172 01:19:08,580 --> 01:19:11,400 that they say is coming, it's almost the same route? 1173 01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:13,160 I haven't heard anything about it. 1174 01:19:13,200 --> 01:19:17,260 OK, that was out of the place up in Chattagooji 1175 01:19:17,260 --> 01:19:20,260 at the arsenal that it was that started that conversation. 1176 01:19:20,880 --> 01:19:22,660 Then coming this way, and coming through 1177 01:19:25,140 --> 01:19:30,440 I'm hoping that I happen also, because that's supposed to be some money in there. 1178 01:19:31,440 --> 01:19:34,700 But this is no money that's all the reason I asked about it being moved. 1179 01:19:34,940 --> 01:19:36,920 There's definitely no money coming out there. 1180 01:19:36,940 --> 01:19:37,960 You're gonna find a good. 1181 01:19:38,480 --> 01:19:38,700 Okay. 1182 01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:39,840 That's it, Mr. Jim. 1183 01:19:40,060 --> 01:19:40,420 A good approval. 1184 01:19:40,620 --> 01:19:41,960 It's a great thing for guessing, can I? 1185 01:19:41,980 --> 01:19:42,420 Thank you. 1186 01:19:42,420 --> 01:19:43,320 Thank you all so much, though. 1187 01:19:44,220 --> 01:19:44,420 All right. 1188 01:19:44,580 --> 01:19:46,040 We have a motion to approve. 1189 01:19:46,880 --> 01:19:47,680 Do you have a second? 1190 01:19:48,460 --> 01:19:49,720 I'll second it. 1191 01:19:51,440 --> 01:19:56,500 All in feed size, in one of the poles, in a fabled boat. 1192 01:19:57,340 --> 01:19:59,060 Next, I guess. 1193 01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:06,600 I think it's quite right. Naked court. 1194 01:20:09,670 --> 01:20:15,490 Local court. Naked attorney. No comment, Mr. Chair. 1195 01:20:15,830 --> 01:20:26,270 All right, Naked, interim county administrative. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. It's a great night. It's always a great night when we can move forward on one of these major projects. That's number three of six. 1196 01:20:36,690 --> 01:20:37,730 Yeah, it's a great night. 1197 01:20:37,730 --> 01:20:42,510 We're appreciative of the Board of Proving the Project for the Phantom Medical Center. 1198 01:20:42,630 --> 01:20:44,170 It's a multi-purpose community facility. 1199 01:20:44,170 --> 01:20:50,070 It's going to be great for the town of Havana, the provides health care and medical services, 1200 01:20:50,070 --> 01:20:54,310 including telehealth, educational training, and the world's working workforce activity. 1201 01:20:55,130 --> 01:20:59,210 So, we generally schedule the groundbreaking for October 1st, 11 o'clock, 1202 01:20:59,510 --> 01:21:00,890 getting back with the board on that. 1203 01:21:01,010 --> 01:21:01,670 So, we're excited. 1204 01:21:01,670 --> 01:21:03,310 We're moving forward with that as we speak. 1205 01:21:03,930 --> 01:21:07,690 So, we appreciate everybody and we look forward to seeing the entire town of Havana. 1206 01:21:07,690 --> 01:21:10,290 out there, a lot of time for us to come up with. 1207 01:21:11,130 --> 01:21:14,250 All right, so that brings us to, you know, 1208 01:21:14,330 --> 01:21:16,850 we got a number of projects, that's number three of six. 1209 01:21:17,590 --> 01:21:20,770 Now, it brings us to another project, EMS project. 1210 01:21:21,990 --> 01:21:23,950 As you know, we've been counted some obstacles 1211 01:21:23,950 --> 01:21:28,230 in securing a D to the property on Joe Adams Road. 1212 01:21:28,310 --> 01:21:30,050 I think you probably all the board members 1213 01:21:30,050 --> 01:21:32,810 are aware of the challenges that we've been counted. 1214 01:21:33,510 --> 01:21:42,390 As a result, as a result of this challenge, other options have surfaced as a new home for 1215 01:21:42,390 --> 01:21:52,510 EMS, one of those options that has surfaced involves a building downtown, a building 1216 01:21:52,510 --> 01:21:58,650 that's right next to hard, it's a large building that was once a bank and they think it 1217 01:21:58,650 --> 01:22:08,250 of female homin, et cetera, it's a 7,000 square foot plus building that commerce and their 1218 01:22:08,250 --> 01:22:10,430 officials have seen it. 1219 01:22:10,710 --> 01:22:19,830 And they basically have said that if this is what the board wants, they would be in favor 1220 01:22:21,970 --> 01:22:28,590 renovating and purchasing and renovating that property. However, all of our 1221 01:22:28,590 --> 01:22:33,030 challenges are dealing with these buildings at this point, center-round timeline. 1222 01:22:34,690 --> 01:22:41,730 So what they basically said to me on a Zoom call was that in order to do that, 1223 01:22:41,870 --> 01:22:49,810 if that's an option the board wants to take, we need to present to them a 1224 01:22:49,810 --> 01:22:55,150 that they can see and say that they could, you know, we could get that done. 1225 01:22:55,530 --> 01:23:03,930 So that's where we are, so we, you know, so what I'm asking tonight is that of this board 1226 01:23:03,930 --> 01:23:11,430 to give me and our staff some direction on how they might want to proceed given what I've told you. 1227 01:23:11,530 --> 01:23:16,850 Now you know where we are, our history, so I'm giving you the update on it, so you can tell me where 1228 01:23:16,850 --> 01:23:18,170 you are. 1229 01:23:18,170 --> 01:23:29,050 question. Yes sir. What is it? Because it's not in front of me at the moment. What will be the cost of the dollar amount? 1230 01:23:29,510 --> 01:23:37,170 What are the options that we have? I know that there is some land on strong road again that we own. 1231 01:23:38,410 --> 01:23:44,370 We taking those other land options into consideration as well. Not that I'm opposed of this. This would be great. 1232 01:23:44,370 --> 01:23:53,610 I'm just asking for as much detail as you possibly have and have we considered other land properties that we own. 1233 01:23:54,350 --> 01:24:00,370 And one of the reasons I did say strong road is because you're not far from the emergency center that we have. 1234 01:24:01,690 --> 01:24:05,170 The senior facilities still have the same accessibility. 1235 01:24:06,330 --> 01:24:10,190 I'm just trying to see have that been taken into consideration as well. 1236 01:24:12,330 --> 01:24:17,410 Well, what we've done is, you know, I mean, struck at the staff to go ahead and do the phase 1237 01:24:18,250 --> 01:24:23,550 one, slide assessments for all those properties to get started, in case we had to utilize 1238 01:24:23,550 --> 01:24:24,410 our properties. 1239 01:24:25,370 --> 01:24:30,450 But what I'm looking for at the 90s, you know, given the challenges we had, trying to move 1240 01:24:30,450 --> 01:24:34,650 to Joe Adams Road, I need to get some direction on how you might want to proceed, you know, 1241 01:24:34,650 --> 01:24:38,130 or do you want to do a renovation, a purchase and renovation? 1242 01:24:38,130 --> 01:24:41,530 I just need to get some clarity for you, so we'll know how to operate. 1243 01:24:42,550 --> 01:24:44,750 Well, you just gave us one option. 1244 01:24:45,410 --> 01:24:48,390 It didn't want us to make a decision from ours. 1245 01:24:48,390 --> 01:24:49,890 No, no, no, no, no. 1246 01:24:50,290 --> 01:24:50,970 Let's be clear. 1247 01:24:50,970 --> 01:24:51,530 I'm not giving. 1248 01:24:52,050 --> 01:24:55,470 I'm just giving you what we, what we entertain. 1249 01:24:56,290 --> 01:24:56,790 No, no, no. 1250 01:24:57,070 --> 01:24:59,870 Okay, we began trying to use your atoms. 1251 01:25:02,660 --> 01:25:14,140 You understand what obstacles we've encountered on that? So we're looking to do other things and we're preparing to do other things. But at this point, I just need to know what that other thing might be from the bullshit. 1252 01:25:30,140 --> 01:25:36,480 know the building, but I don't see much land opportunity what that building is. So I think that 1253 01:25:36,480 --> 01:25:41,880 it needs to be a little bit more information given to us. And my suggestion, again, as I 1254 01:25:41,880 --> 01:25:48,400 just suggested, we'll be to try to utilize land that we may already own or have a few other options 1255 01:25:48,400 --> 01:25:50,260 to consider, but thank you. 1256 01:25:52,920 --> 01:26:00,460 Thank you. I'm going to, I've been requesting, 1257 01:26:04,430 --> 01:26:05,690 you know, for us to 1258 01:26:05,710 --> 01:26:19,150 move forward and I appreciate that we're starting on the environmental studies. Hopefully 1259 01:26:19,150 --> 01:26:27,810 we'll have those on our properties and I think in future purchases, that's something 1260 01:26:27,810 --> 01:26:39,010 should be done prior to even purchase and property. But at any rate, I know that there has been 1261 01:26:39,010 --> 01:26:43,890 private discussions with between the administrators, 1262 01:26:46,210 --> 01:26:49,890 the city manager and the county administrator 1263 01:26:49,890 --> 01:26:57,790 as it relates to the property on Joe Adams. I don't know that I have not seen and I might be wrong. 1264 01:26:57,810 --> 01:27:02,710 But I have not seen where the 1265 01:27:04,730 --> 01:27:12,530 county, the city commissioners have been forced to stay 1266 01:27:12,530 --> 01:27:22,330 claimed, yay, a nay, on whether they were going to, whether they would give us the 1267 01:27:22,330 --> 01:27:46,790 for the property and based on the funders, and the information that we submitted, that's what they saw was a paper that stated that they were going to give us that deed and of course we all know that that has not happened. 1268 01:27:46,790 --> 01:27:53,670 But we have dependent on the city manager making that decision in the county. 1269 01:27:53,830 --> 01:27:58,970 I'm going to show you the city commissioners. 1270 01:27:59,790 --> 01:28:04,670 I have not heard a vote on that. 1271 01:28:05,390 --> 01:28:09,670 From that diet as it relates to that. 1272 01:28:10,110 --> 01:28:15,830 I'm always in the, what is in the best interest for gas and county. 1273 01:28:15,830 --> 01:28:25,250 and that's how I'll move and what I am going to suggest is that we give the attorney 1274 01:28:26,390 --> 01:28:36,250 permission to go over to the city with that letter that was signed by it was their city 1275 01:28:36,250 --> 01:28:45,530 manager at the time. And there were some of those board members sitting on that board and 1276 01:28:46,430 --> 01:28:57,250 let them make a decision. Now when they make this decision we are already moving forward with the 1277 01:28:58,050 --> 01:29:03,670 environmental studies and we continue to move forward with the environmental studies on our 1278 01:29:03,670 --> 01:29:15,930 And if we're looking at this additional property then we continue to move forward with that and we prepare as if we would not be receiving that the. 1279 01:29:16,580 --> 01:29:28,250 But I would like to make sure that the city commissioners have said no. 1280 01:29:29,330 --> 01:29:52,650 So, we continue to move forward. We don't stop. But we continue to move forward with whatever has to be done looking into this additional option so that we have those options and taking a look at the time table so that we are able to present that to the funders. 1281 01:29:52,650 --> 01:29:59,950 But, again, I would like for the attorney to go over to their meeting, and... 1282 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:29,980 To bring this to the forefront. And we, because we've spent $300,000 on that property over there. You know, so I, I, I, I, I, I would like for that to, to have before we just say, no, because we, the boys and girls, closed, we went over there. They told us, no, they have not said, I haven't heard it. I haven't even missed a meeting, but I have not seen it. So I would like for 1283 01:30:29,980 --> 01:30:34,660 for them to say, no, yes or no? 1284 01:30:34,960 --> 01:30:36,080 Is that the form of emotion? 1285 01:30:36,620 --> 01:30:37,220 I make a motion. 1286 01:30:40,830 --> 01:30:43,290 Yeah, before we get into that, commissioners, 1287 01:30:43,430 --> 01:30:45,530 can't we just sit down with the city of Quincy? 1288 01:30:46,330 --> 01:30:49,150 I mean, we can do that. 1289 01:30:49,850 --> 01:30:53,330 We're supposed to be the big brothers and sisters in the county. 1290 01:30:53,350 --> 01:30:55,010 That's why they have the county commissions 1291 01:30:55,010 --> 01:30:57,250 to work a lot of times between the city 1292 01:30:57,250 --> 01:30:59,370 and the city and federal government. 1293 01:30:59,790 --> 01:31:01,670 That's why they ask us to sign on everything 1294 01:31:01,670 --> 01:31:05,990 from sidewalks to everything else when cities are doing that. 1295 01:31:06,290 --> 01:31:09,090 Now all we have to do is have a meeting. 1296 01:31:09,550 --> 01:31:12,710 They can tell us, no, it's not going to hurt our feelings, won't be it. 1297 01:31:13,010 --> 01:31:17,530 But the bottom line is we're going to have agreements with the city anyway. 1298 01:31:18,570 --> 01:31:22,330 You're going to have agreements with them, you've got an animal control, you're going to have 1299 01:31:22,330 --> 01:31:28,130 garbage or whatever, you're going to have agreements with them and we can't exclude any city 1300 01:31:28,130 --> 01:31:31,070 at all from what we're doing. 1301 01:31:31,810 --> 01:31:34,430 Sit down and let's have a meeting with them. 1302 01:31:34,610 --> 01:31:35,250 There doesn't matter. 1303 01:31:35,430 --> 01:31:41,510 We can send whoever, but as our job to work with them, it really is. 1304 01:31:41,970 --> 01:31:48,170 And so just work with them and see, hey, look, we know we had these things done in the past. 1305 01:31:48,650 --> 01:31:53,190 But what we're through with that, now can't, are we going to, are you willing to work with us 1306 01:31:53,190 --> 01:31:53,950 on this property? 1307 01:31:54,130 --> 01:31:56,150 And if you're not, then that's fine. 1308 01:31:56,610 --> 01:31:57,490 Then we move on. 1309 01:31:57,490 --> 01:32:00,170 that you continue to do the research called, 1310 01:32:00,290 --> 01:32:02,110 we gotta do that research on those properties anyway. 1311 01:32:03,310 --> 01:32:05,010 But I think it would be better, 1312 01:32:05,410 --> 01:32:07,250 and in fact, we need to work with all the cities, 1313 01:32:07,510 --> 01:32:09,410 not just the city of Quincy, you know, 1314 01:32:09,410 --> 01:32:11,310 we're seven, I had to mean with each one of them. 1315 01:32:11,350 --> 01:32:13,810 We had meetings, we went to their cities. 1316 01:32:14,690 --> 01:32:16,150 We didn't, we didn't wait for them to come up here. 1317 01:32:16,810 --> 01:32:19,270 So that's something that can be done, 1318 01:32:19,770 --> 01:32:20,950 because they're gonna have a remiss. 1319 01:32:21,030 --> 01:32:22,270 We're gonna have to work with the cities. 1320 01:32:22,330 --> 01:32:23,910 You're gonna have to work with them, no matter what happens. 1321 01:32:23,910 --> 01:32:27,990 If you don't, we don't like someone, I want to chat with you. 1322 01:32:28,390 --> 01:32:30,610 I don't even know who's on the City Commission in chat with you. 1323 01:32:30,650 --> 01:32:31,930 All the new two people. 1324 01:32:32,190 --> 01:32:35,990 I do it at a time, but then you learn these other people, and they have knees and wants 1325 01:32:35,990 --> 01:32:37,410 and stuff, just like we do. 1326 01:32:38,230 --> 01:32:43,110 So I think that this board needs to sit out with that board and say, look, we need to work out. 1327 01:32:43,150 --> 01:32:44,910 What do we need to work out so we can get along? 1328 01:32:45,530 --> 01:32:46,950 And we can go for money. 1329 01:32:47,350 --> 01:32:53,870 If the City of Quincy Wright and I write a CDBG at $750,000, and we can match it and 1330 01:32:53,870 --> 01:33:00,190 50, then you end up with 1.5 million. On that project, it could be payment rolls, it could 1331 01:33:00,190 --> 01:33:05,930 be doing any project, but you can combine the two. And you get more bang for your book, 1332 01:33:06,050 --> 01:33:09,910 but that's all I'm saying. I think it'll be better that we sit on with them. They tell us, 1333 01:33:10,050 --> 01:33:12,450 yeah, a name. We keep moving. 1334 01:33:16,010 --> 01:33:20,550 I have to, I'm sorry. Thank you. I have to totally agree, 1335 01:33:20,790 --> 01:33:24,490 because I feel like there's so many other projects and so many things that we need to 1336 01:33:24,490 --> 01:33:32,090 they're working on, and we do need to solidify, rectify some of the issues that we have as 1337 01:33:32,090 --> 01:33:38,550 as boards, and so that we can all kind of get on the same page with the same vision, and I don't 1338 01:33:38,550 --> 01:33:45,030 want to keep, and I want to be clear on how I say it. I want to make sure that we don't continue to 1339 01:33:45,030 --> 01:33:49,130 go back and forward a different path, I don't know what the issues are over there issues are over 1340 01:33:49,130 --> 01:33:54,270 here, but we do need to come, and I totally agree with Commissioner Simpsons on having something 1341 01:33:54,490 --> 01:34:00,030 warmly given to us and that we're not giving or they're they're not interested because 1342 01:34:00,030 --> 01:34:06,430 I think I've heard it as well, but nothing formally has been given to us, but I would love for 1343 01:34:06,430 --> 01:34:11,370 us to sit down and have another one of those dialogues. We'll be talking about the plans and the future 1344 01:34:11,370 --> 01:34:18,350 of city and county government going forward so that everybody can be on the same page, but thank you. 1345 01:34:18,690 --> 01:34:24,130 Yeah, I spoke to the county administrator last week about that. How would you bring everybody in? 1346 01:34:24,510 --> 01:34:31,930 everything else. Once we get that plan together, we can do that. I let y'all know 1347 01:34:31,930 --> 01:34:38,210 the next meeting about what the plan is, so we can all go on the same page. And I think 1348 01:34:38,210 --> 01:34:44,010 we need to fellowship first. And some kind of we need to laugh a little bit, but we start 1349 01:34:44,010 --> 01:34:47,890 talking about business. And then we can start going to the business, because I want to meet 1350 01:34:47,890 --> 01:34:51,570 with every, like you said, well, I think we did a couple of years ago, we met with every 1351 01:34:51,570 --> 01:34:57,090 city, and guests in County, city of town and guests in County, with the one directly to 1352 01:34:57,090 --> 01:34:59,950 their locations. But first, I think we need to break. 1353 01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:06,420 Breaker for us. Eke, fellowship, happy good time. Don't talk about business, tap. It's just just getting 1354 01:35:06,420 --> 01:35:13,020 no each other. And, and so that's what I was talking about last week. So we are going to be able to 1355 01:35:13,020 --> 01:35:19,840 either get them, smile together, then we can get some things, accomplish that work. So I 1356 01:35:19,840 --> 01:35:27,240 wish it's simple. So, Dan, I need clarity because we're on the time. We're on the time frame, so I 1357 01:35:27,240 --> 01:35:34,600 need to let's put my name right there and I'm going to tell you, let me just be frank. 1358 01:35:34,960 --> 01:35:40,260 I put my name out there and I said that we will be breaking ground before they go into 1359 01:35:40,260 --> 01:35:46,920 session on these projects and that's what I want to happen and that's what I expect to 1360 01:35:46,920 --> 01:35:53,340 happen. So what I need, now this meeting can happen and that's fine, we can sit and we 1361 01:35:53,340 --> 01:35:59,460 can come by y'all but right now I need to know whether or not they are going to and I've 1362 01:35:59,460 --> 01:36:05,620 been speaking with I've actually have been reaching out with the island branch, not in no big 1363 01:36:05,620 --> 01:36:11,840 meeting but having those conversations, right, to how can we work together and partner 1364 01:36:11,840 --> 01:36:15,040 together because that's how we'll make gas and county stronger. 1365 01:36:15,040 --> 01:36:25,560 But in the meantime, right now we have to move forward on this project, we are already 1366 01:36:25,560 --> 01:36:33,920 behind on another one because we were kind of waiting, okay, we've been given deadlines. 1367 01:36:35,320 --> 01:36:39,640 My name would not be only anything that says that we've lost because we've been sitting 1368 01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:48,800 around and not moving the way that we need to move. So I need to know if we want to 1369 01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:54,380 come by y'all, we come by y'all next week so that we can go ahead because it has to be 1370 01:36:54,380 --> 01:37:00,620 we it can be down the road. We can continue to work on you know the other things without 1371 01:37:00,620 --> 01:37:05,860 environmental studies and taking a look at the other buildings but we also need to go ahead 1372 01:37:05,860 --> 01:37:10,560 move forward with this, so if we're gonna come by y'all and we need to send out an email 1373 01:37:10,560 --> 01:37:14,900 tomorrow at Xonk and they come by y'all next week sometime. I mean, the reason I said I 1374 01:37:14,900 --> 01:37:20,320 believe my come by y'all is not a bad thing. I'm not saying that I know I and I'm not saying I agree 1375 01:37:20,320 --> 01:37:27,480 with you with us coming together, but what I'm saying is when we're on a, we're on a and commissioner 1376 01:37:28,160 --> 01:37:35,840 without fairness, I have requested for us to do. I wanted us to come together and do a 1377 01:37:35,840 --> 01:37:43,180 I mean, there's a power like this right now we don't but we can't that's something we got to do it. We can't do that next week 1378 01:37:43,180 --> 01:37:47,780 Listen, but you have so much you have so much understood. I don't like put our business in the street 1379 01:37:47,780 --> 01:37:49,600 because I think we got a great boy here 1380 01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:53,300 But at the same time there's some friction 1381 01:37:54,260 --> 01:37:58,000 That history of friction that going on we switched to my the boys and girls 1382 01:37:58,580 --> 01:38:03,140 Other things. It's kind of people kind of filled it on comfortable a little bit, right? 1383 01:38:03,140 --> 01:38:09,840 So some kind of way, I believe I come from holding the church and we eat every Sunday a little late about that people got away from that 1384 01:38:09,840 --> 01:38:16,220 But when you eat the God of the trust me, you know when I stress hit people come back to your church and fellowship 1385 01:38:16,220 --> 01:38:23,340 So I'm going to fellowship bring that conversation and that's what I'm just saying maybe we can bring everybody in how a big 1386 01:38:23,940 --> 01:38:27,840 Feast and enjoy yourself. It's like you say make it in being two weeks, right? 1387 01:38:27,840 --> 01:38:32,760 It could be in two weeks, give them enough time that we taught my last week, give them enough time. 1388 01:38:33,200 --> 01:38:36,520 Then we can, then we have all the cities, Havana can be a part of it, because Havana 1389 01:38:36,520 --> 01:38:38,240 falls probably on the whole midway for us. 1390 01:38:38,860 --> 01:38:41,080 A midway, probably on the whole Chattagoochi. 1391 01:38:41,520 --> 01:38:45,840 So now everybody gets changed and joined themselves, there are no the end of, we are humans 1392 01:38:45,840 --> 01:38:50,240 just like they are human, and full can, I mean, that's stripped enough. 1393 01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:55,220 I'm not a preacher, no one near, but strips, that's stripped. 1394 01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:59,800 And we eat together, I can't teach some great things to happen. 1395 01:39:00,220 --> 01:39:03,280 And then, commission, we have all metin, metin, right? 1396 01:39:03,700 --> 01:39:07,940 Then we have the metin deal, we can go and do our strategic plan for that point. 1397 01:39:08,740 --> 01:39:10,080 You got me? 1398 01:39:10,300 --> 01:39:11,180 Yeah, that's the chair. 1399 01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:15,940 Mr. Chair, we three, you done said we got the three weeks out right now, all the way 1400 01:39:15,940 --> 01:39:22,800 through, we three weeks out right now, and they go in the session, when, when does that go 1401 01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:23,340 in session? 1402 01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:25,780 He's trying to, he's trying to, he's trying to get on my, 1403 01:39:25,900 --> 01:39:27,840 He's not when they go to commit it for getting session 1404 01:39:27,840 --> 01:39:29,960 because they don't make decisions during a commit. 1405 01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:32,020 But the thing is that, everywhere, 1406 01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:35,980 but the thing is that, 1407 01:39:35,980 --> 01:39:39,440 but the thing is that, of course, I'm a, for my, for my understanding. 1408 01:39:39,880 --> 01:39:42,960 Senator Simon, the government, we, we, we don't, we need to live no kid. 1409 01:39:42,960 --> 01:39:45,900 We make it that day, so they have to change it. 1410 01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:49,120 For my understanding is, or, these are the 18th, right? 1411 01:39:49,340 --> 01:39:51,460 They want to meet with everybody together. 1412 01:39:51,460 --> 01:39:57,580 We shall have a planned together before December 18, so all these meetings prior to December 18. 1413 01:39:58,280 --> 01:39:59,800 No commission, I want to plan. 1414 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:15,080 I don't want to stand, I don't want to stand, I want them to be able to see where we have, where we have all of these, we have our projects, because that's what they want to hear. They don't want to hear about our plans. 1415 01:40:15,080 --> 01:40:15,960 to do it. 1416 01:40:16,900 --> 01:40:18,040 Yes, we're going to do it. 1417 01:40:18,040 --> 01:40:19,820 And then the song is from there. 1418 01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:20,960 And we're going to move on. 1419 01:40:21,140 --> 01:40:23,580 But the thing is, we're going to turn on my call. 1420 01:40:24,020 --> 01:40:25,300 But I'm sorry. 1421 01:40:25,800 --> 01:40:27,620 I was saying, I'll be out to do it right quick. 1422 01:40:27,680 --> 01:40:28,560 Meet with the city of Quince. 1423 01:40:28,820 --> 01:40:30,660 I'm telling the manager and everybody. 1424 01:40:30,760 --> 01:40:32,340 Let's go ahead and meet right quick. 1425 01:40:32,700 --> 01:40:34,960 Look at all the buildings and stuff at the same time. 1426 01:40:35,260 --> 01:40:35,960 Let's keep moving. 1427 01:40:36,100 --> 01:40:37,620 Because they got a timeline for this. 1428 01:40:37,800 --> 01:40:39,940 Everything got to be. 1429 01:40:40,000 --> 01:40:41,340 We're going to lose a whole country. 1430 01:40:41,340 --> 01:40:46,400 And again, we're speaking as if we're not in front of things, right? 1431 01:40:46,740 --> 01:40:53,020 Right now, we are making moves, but we listen to it outside of the community, it looked 1432 01:40:53,020 --> 01:40:54,260 like we are dysfunctional. 1433 01:40:54,400 --> 01:41:01,180 We got ourselves together, nothing moving, but the reality is that Chattagooja is being built 1434 01:41:01,180 --> 01:41:01,840 right now. 1435 01:41:02,180 --> 01:41:08,900 Reality's Havana is seeing two projects, we might do a groundbreaking over there to Havana 1436 01:41:08,900 --> 01:41:09,340 right now. 1437 01:41:09,340 --> 01:41:11,340 We saw two projects, third projects in Atlanta. 1438 01:41:12,940 --> 01:41:14,980 But what I'm saying, commissioner, God bless us 1439 01:41:14,980 --> 01:41:17,940 because the state saying, based on what you told me, 1440 01:41:18,400 --> 01:41:20,700 the state said, hey, we have everything together 1441 01:41:20,700 --> 01:41:22,160 by Friday, right? 1442 01:41:22,640 --> 01:41:23,780 I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't, I can't. 1443 01:41:23,780 --> 01:41:27,080 I'm just timeline by Friday and then we can move forward 1444 01:41:27,080 --> 01:41:29,200 in this project because we only got one year 1445 01:41:29,200 --> 01:41:30,900 from that date right there. 1446 01:41:31,240 --> 01:41:33,900 September 30th, September 20th, to make it work. 1447 01:41:34,640 --> 01:41:37,920 So we, we looking at, we looking at, 1448 01:41:38,880 --> 01:41:44,980 We look at land, you gotta look at any of your reservations, you gotta look at all of these stuff going on. 1449 01:41:45,380 --> 01:41:51,420 So you're talking about, you're looking like, natural dirt down, we're talking about, that's a six months process. 1450 01:41:52,200 --> 01:41:58,860 Because you're talking about reservations, do they have red rolls come through and in the past all that, all that historical piece that, 1451 01:41:59,000 --> 01:42:02,260 but we're talking about the building that you're going to refurbish already inside the ceiling. 1452 01:42:02,260 --> 01:42:05,400 So, so commissioner, I don't mean to cut your foot. 1453 01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:09,260 What I'm saying is, and I hadn't disagreed with you on the bill. 1454 01:42:09,500 --> 01:42:17,100 But what I'm saying is we need to move one amount understanding. 1455 01:42:19,320 --> 01:42:25,820 We sent paperwork over saying that we had property that we were going to be on Joe Adams. 1456 01:42:25,940 --> 01:42:27,720 And we had an agreement, right? 1457 01:42:27,980 --> 01:42:33,080 What I'm saying is that needs to be, they need to see. 1458 01:42:33,740 --> 01:42:37,500 Well, the county is not dysfunctional, right? 1459 01:42:37,980 --> 01:42:42,680 The city said yes or they said no, right? 1460 01:42:42,940 --> 01:42:46,540 We need to hear that from the city commissioners. 1461 01:42:46,720 --> 01:42:50,060 So what I'm hearing is the board is saying 1462 01:42:50,060 --> 01:42:55,240 that we want to sit instead of the attorney going over. 1463 01:42:55,640 --> 01:42:58,340 We would like to hold the meeting with them, okay? 1464 01:42:58,340 --> 01:43:03,440 So it sounds like maybe we can eat, you know, you kind of be happy. 1465 01:43:03,600 --> 01:43:08,280 Why you eating them and so we eat them and we talk about this and let them make the decision 1466 01:43:08,280 --> 01:43:10,020 why we said that and eating. 1467 01:43:10,440 --> 01:43:16,320 No, I don't want to make people lose focus on the seriousness that we got going on here. 1468 01:43:16,320 --> 01:43:17,660 It's not losing focus. 1469 01:43:18,060 --> 01:43:21,760 Can we talk about two, we talk about opposite and penis right now, right? 1470 01:43:22,220 --> 01:43:25,360 What I'm coming from, what you're talking about, you're talking about the projects, right? 1471 01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:31,980 I was saying a big plan of how we can have a better start up with a better relationship. 1472 01:43:32,780 --> 01:43:35,380 It wouldn't talk about the prices, but that's not what you're talking about. 1473 01:43:36,860 --> 01:43:37,880 You're talking about the relationship. 1474 01:43:38,060 --> 01:43:40,120 You're talking about relationships. 1475 01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:42,120 But you're talking about relationships. 1476 01:43:42,120 --> 01:43:44,020 But you're talking about relationships itself. 1477 01:43:45,480 --> 01:43:47,540 That's what I was talking about. 1478 01:43:47,580 --> 01:43:47,960 Okay. 1479 01:43:49,100 --> 01:43:49,580 Okay. 1480 01:43:50,060 --> 01:43:50,520 So I'm going. 1481 01:43:50,520 --> 01:43:54,620 This is, I'm calling, so I'm like an emotion that the attorney 1482 01:43:54,620 --> 01:43:57,880 go over to the meeting then, so we can, we can do a relationship. 1483 01:43:58,640 --> 01:44:04,200 So then my emotion is going to be that we give and I want to give the attorney 1484 01:44:04,200 --> 01:44:08,340 permission to go over to their meeting next Tuesday and we can still schedule, 1485 01:44:08,340 --> 01:44:11,540 we can still schedule a relationship meeting. 1486 01:44:11,740 --> 01:44:15,820 But our friends, if you don't have your act together by Friday, 1487 01:44:16,320 --> 01:44:19,900 the whole project is over with, y'all got one coming from. 1488 01:44:19,900 --> 01:44:26,660 So the project is over with if everything get together by Friday, so you don't have time for the project. 1489 01:44:26,920 --> 01:44:27,960 I agree on with the project. 1490 01:44:28,380 --> 01:44:29,920 What's up with here behind that? 1491 01:44:30,700 --> 01:44:32,940 Here, my based on, and I was like I said, this is something, 1492 01:44:34,100 --> 01:44:35,900 people listed everything we talked about. 1493 01:44:36,020 --> 01:44:42,260 So we got to be very careful because because of what's going on with city, what we have on the city Quincy. 1494 01:44:42,720 --> 01:44:47,060 And now we're trying to expedite the process faster. 1495 01:44:47,060 --> 01:44:51,060 We don't want to put our business out in the street because but you know 1496 01:44:51,560 --> 01:44:57,900 I think that right now we are in a position is you don't have to go to that position at that place right now 1497 01:44:57,900 --> 01:44:59,960 We can go across the street we can we 1498 01:45:17,580 --> 01:45:25,580 I think that the clerk has recorded that a motion has been made on the floor, either set either the motion needs a second, where he's adopted, lack of a second and a minute. 1499 01:45:25,580 --> 01:45:34,920 comment. Yes, I guess. I'm not. I got second, but my thing was, to me, the motion wasn't clear enough, 1500 01:45:35,320 --> 01:45:40,840 as to what we were asking him to do when he goes to the meeting. Yeah. And we put that in the form 1501 01:45:40,840 --> 01:45:47,780 of your motion. Well, I have a question right away. Why are we waiting to go to a meeting, 1502 01:45:48,000 --> 01:45:53,580 where this is just a matter of contact in the city and see Mr. Administrator, 1503 01:45:53,580 --> 01:46:00,000 can see if we can just we can have schedule a meeting. I mean, why would we wait until next 1504 01:46:00,000 --> 01:46:06,440 week or Sunday? And that one in the attorney, even if he does, I don't care who does it. But 1505 01:46:06,440 --> 01:46:11,580 isn't a natural just a schedule a meeting, see if there's there wouldn't sit on with us and schedule 1506 01:46:11,580 --> 01:46:16,140 a meeting contact them. I mean pick up the phone, write a memo. That might be the motion that you 1507 01:46:16,780 --> 01:46:21,040 So, I structure my motion. 1508 01:46:22,020 --> 01:46:31,140 We, if the, even the administrator, mission to contact the city of Quincey. 1509 01:46:31,980 --> 01:46:33,020 It was another meeting. 1510 01:46:33,100 --> 01:46:34,540 To schedule a meeting. 1511 01:46:35,140 --> 01:46:35,980 So, this possible. 1512 01:46:36,560 --> 01:46:39,240 They can sort of, they can meet. 1513 01:46:39,460 --> 01:46:41,440 And they can hear that they are unable. 1514 01:46:41,440 --> 01:46:50,280 being permission for the city for our attorney to go over to their commissioners meeting 1515 01:46:50,280 --> 01:47:05,100 on next Tuesday to request for the EMS, the property on Joe Adams' role to be added to their 1516 01:47:05,100 --> 01:47:06,220 agenda for discussion. 1517 01:47:06,220 --> 01:47:10,220 I mean, let's do what we need to do. 1518 01:47:11,340 --> 01:47:12,300 Back at. 1519 01:47:12,300 --> 01:47:13,380 He can sense a matter here. 1520 01:47:13,480 --> 01:47:15,060 Can't you sense a matter comes hit in me? 1521 01:47:15,260 --> 01:47:17,860 Okay. We got a motion of second. 1522 01:47:19,140 --> 01:47:23,720 Uh, for the, uh, all the papers I want to pose. 1523 01:47:25,300 --> 01:47:25,620 All right. 1524 01:47:26,520 --> 01:47:29,640 So we're going to send staff over there to the office. 1525 01:47:29,640 --> 01:47:30,660 Okay, that's very quick. 1526 01:47:31,860 --> 01:47:32,340 Yeah. 1527 01:47:34,640 --> 01:47:35,120 Yeah. 1528 01:47:35,200 --> 01:47:35,380 Yeah. 1529 01:47:35,380 --> 01:47:37,700 You see, they can hear over their vision. 1530 01:47:38,240 --> 01:47:40,180 You see what they can meet with me? 1531 01:47:40,540 --> 01:47:40,720 Yeah. 1532 01:47:40,720 --> 01:47:41,180 You're ready. 1533 01:47:41,640 --> 01:47:42,640 All right. 1534 01:47:47,560 --> 01:47:48,740 We're on that minutes right at the comment. 1535 01:47:49,940 --> 01:47:50,160 Yes. 1536 01:47:51,480 --> 01:47:54,760 So, so what about what are we going to do before Friday? 1537 01:47:54,940 --> 01:47:58,500 We give a permission to his request was what? 1538 01:47:59,040 --> 01:47:59,380 What? 1539 01:47:59,380 --> 01:48:00,400 Are we giving permission? 1540 01:48:00,900 --> 01:48:02,580 We want to say no on this. 1541 01:48:03,840 --> 01:48:05,060 He's supposed to move forward. 1542 01:48:05,500 --> 01:48:05,920 No. 1543 01:48:06,160 --> 01:48:07,120 He's supposed to move forward. 1544 01:48:07,120 --> 01:48:08,260 I'll talk about for the building. 1545 01:48:08,260 --> 01:48:18,080 He's supposed to move forward. You're going forward with that. Yeah, we can't stop. Yeah, we're going forward with the option. Yeah 1546 01:48:21,580 --> 01:48:22,780 Okay, okay 1547 01:48:22,780 --> 01:48:31,580 Yeah, it makes sure that makes sure that everything make everything make sure I think please my friend 1548 01:48:32,240 --> 01:48:36,140 Yeah, I knew I know all of all right, so 1549 01:48:36,140 --> 01:48:38,280 Anything else? 1550 01:48:39,420 --> 01:48:42,040 All right, Commissioner, who's next? 1551 01:48:42,360 --> 01:48:43,900 Appreciate you. 1552 01:48:45,480 --> 01:48:47,580 She airs against kind of board of kind of commissioning 1553 01:48:47,580 --> 01:48:49,160 and commissioning Shawn Wooders. 1554 01:48:51,090 --> 01:48:52,250 Six minutes. 1555 01:48:52,910 --> 01:48:54,710 I'm going to do four. 1556 01:48:55,350 --> 01:48:56,390 The Dougher Frays Day. 1557 01:48:56,750 --> 01:48:56,990 Yep. 1558 01:48:58,910 --> 01:49:00,770 So the city Quincy. 1559 01:49:02,170 --> 01:49:03,830 We got eight million dollars. 1560 01:49:04,750 --> 01:49:06,790 Almost eight million dollars is just in the limbo. 1561 01:49:06,790 --> 01:49:08,690 But I think we had to have the conversation. 1562 01:49:11,310 --> 01:49:17,190 It's almost the fact that we don't want to have a conversation and I'm glad to hear that 1563 01:49:17,190 --> 01:49:20,370 all the commissioners are in tune of having a good conversation. 1564 01:49:20,550 --> 01:49:23,310 It hasn't always been that way, okay? 1565 01:49:24,730 --> 01:49:32,530 Citizens of gas and county and especially Quincy is about to lose out on eight million dollars. 1566 01:49:32,530 --> 01:49:40,850 brand new bill because we called up yeah we have a project that it could be 1567 01:49:40,850 --> 01:49:46,790 inclusive of Quincy or Gretna that could bring hundreds and hundreds of 1568 01:49:46,790 --> 01:49:52,370 million dollars and we can't sit down and talk. We wrote them an 18 million 1569 01:49:52,370 --> 01:49:59,090 a grant. They got put in the trash I guess, I don't know. Yeah, so... 1570 01:50:01,260 --> 01:50:09,540 We're not moving forward. And for me, it's either we have a better relationship or we have no relationship. 1571 01:50:11,580 --> 01:50:13,800 And sometimes you just gotta get into force. 1572 01:50:16,020 --> 01:50:23,320 I'm not opposed to either, but I don't want us to keep continuing having these problems publicly. 1573 01:50:23,320 --> 01:50:34,280 It is not beneficial to our people, and in saying that, I'm hoping that that 1574 01:50:34,280 --> 01:50:37,780 common minds will prevail, 1575 01:50:41,440 --> 01:50:43,480 and it's the only thing that's going to make us successful. 1576 01:50:44,920 --> 01:50:56,120 I mean, we really have a couple of projects, and they're saying they're going to go to 1577 01:50:56,120 --> 01:51:00,720 to tell us or somewhere else, because we can't get out of our own 1578 01:51:00,720 --> 01:51:01,880 diagonal way. 1579 01:51:03,700 --> 01:51:04,740 That's you. 1580 01:51:05,000 --> 01:51:05,500 That's true. 1581 01:51:05,760 --> 01:51:07,480 All right, Nate's commissioner. 1582 01:51:08,400 --> 01:51:09,500 Run Terry's green. 1583 01:51:10,060 --> 01:51:10,700 Thank you. 1584 01:51:11,120 --> 01:51:13,140 And I'm not going to go down that road. 1585 01:51:13,780 --> 01:51:16,600 But I do, I'm not going to be redundant, 1586 01:51:17,020 --> 01:51:20,200 but I do concur with the conversations as of, 1587 01:51:20,200 --> 01:51:22,340 as of in the release of having a better relationship 1588 01:51:23,320 --> 01:51:25,720 with City of Quincy and all of the municipalities. 1589 01:51:26,380 --> 01:51:29,300 But let me start with, I want to go back to our last meeting, 1590 01:51:29,680 --> 01:51:32,240 a couple of things in the last meeting that I did ask for. 1591 01:51:32,680 --> 01:51:37,240 One of the things is, I did ask, I know I can't, 1592 01:51:37,300 --> 01:51:40,300 well, I should be able to tell the minister to what to do as a boss, 1593 01:51:40,740 --> 01:51:43,380 but I did ask and believe that there were no more layoffs 1594 01:51:43,380 --> 01:51:48,140 until we saw a plan, or we saw the list, 1595 01:51:49,220 --> 01:51:53,020 And lo and behold, there was a layoff a couple of days later. 1596 01:51:54,740 --> 01:51:59,900 And I still don't know where that has been certified or what was the purpose. 1597 01:52:00,520 --> 01:52:03,980 And I'm just going to say this because I said it in an open meeting. 1598 01:52:05,340 --> 01:52:06,460 And I did not. 1599 01:52:06,860 --> 01:52:09,300 And I guess my question is because I don't want to assume. 1600 01:52:09,520 --> 01:52:10,560 And I want to stop assuming. 1601 01:52:11,580 --> 01:52:17,980 But I want to know if there's any other commissioners that were aware of these changes that were taken. 1602 01:52:17,980 --> 01:52:24,720 place before it they happened because that administrator can tell us what's going on. He can tell 1603 01:52:24,720 --> 01:52:32,400 us his plans and he can tell us what he's thinking and I will like to know before I hear it in 1604 01:52:32,400 --> 01:52:38,020 the streets that this is what I'm getting ready to do that is not day to day operation that is 1605 01:52:38,020 --> 01:52:45,120 not me saying no you can't do that. I just want to know but I am just I'm felt to believe that 1606 01:52:45,120 --> 01:52:51,340 There's some who know, and I just don't know, because I feel like if there were others who 1607 01:52:51,340 --> 01:52:55,800 were saying, hey, can we not do this until we get a plan, or until we know what's going on, 1608 01:52:56,280 --> 01:52:59,980 I don't think that it would happen in this magnitude. 1609 01:53:00,980 --> 01:53:07,760 So my question is to the board members, are any of you aware beforehand of these changes 1610 01:53:07,760 --> 01:53:13,280 that are being made as it relates to our staff and our employees, and I would love to have 1611 01:53:13,280 --> 01:53:14,780 You see, though, yes or no? 1612 01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:16,960 Now, let me just say something real quick. 1613 01:53:17,260 --> 01:53:20,960 When Robert Perstener up until now, I level, 1614 01:53:22,380 --> 01:53:25,080 had none of them never, I don't think none of them 1615 01:53:25,080 --> 01:53:27,340 came out and told me what they'd buy to do. 1616 01:53:27,640 --> 01:53:30,180 And I never suggested, whatever, however, how to do. 1617 01:53:30,180 --> 01:53:31,160 The commissioners, that's fine. 1618 01:53:31,340 --> 01:53:32,060 I'm not going to do that. 1619 01:53:32,140 --> 01:53:32,560 I'm not going to do that. 1620 01:53:32,560 --> 01:53:32,980 It's okay. 1621 01:53:33,340 --> 01:53:35,440 I'm going to ask you, can we ask you a question, right? 1622 01:53:35,900 --> 01:53:37,020 What I'm saying for me, Perstener. 1623 01:53:37,120 --> 01:53:38,120 I'm just saying for me, Perstener. 1624 01:53:38,460 --> 01:53:39,780 OK, Paul, it's my time. 1625 01:53:40,980 --> 01:53:41,280 Yes. 1626 01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:46,340 for me personally, I don't know, I don't know like, 1627 01:53:46,660 --> 01:53:48,040 if some happen last couple days, 1628 01:53:48,180 --> 01:53:50,020 I don't know what happened last couple days. 1629 01:53:50,260 --> 01:53:53,240 You know, I don't know what transpired or whatever. 1630 01:53:53,920 --> 01:53:58,320 So I don't get into that, like I said, 1631 01:53:58,500 --> 01:54:00,480 for all personnel up until now, 1632 01:54:01,080 --> 01:54:02,780 because that's how you stretch yourself out, 1633 01:54:02,780 --> 01:54:06,560 getting into, for me personal, I don't get into that. 1634 01:54:06,640 --> 01:54:08,400 Unless the staff called me up, 1635 01:54:08,400 --> 01:54:17,500 I had a staff called me up probably 2000 and 18, right, and there was a disarray we met at 1636 01:54:17,500 --> 01:54:18,280 Pizza Hut. 1637 01:54:18,680 --> 01:54:19,220 She wanted me there. 1638 01:54:19,420 --> 01:54:23,780 We talked, but I listened to the shit, and he had some concerns and I did address those 1639 01:54:23,780 --> 01:54:24,040 concerns. 1640 01:54:24,220 --> 01:54:30,080 She's still here today, but other than that, I don't too much get into it. 1641 01:54:30,140 --> 01:54:33,040 I don't, I don't, I try to get into it. 1642 01:54:34,120 --> 01:54:37,820 If I, as I confirm for my understanding, I don't get into it. 1643 01:54:37,820 --> 01:54:39,660 Commission, to be honest, I don't know. 1644 01:54:39,860 --> 01:54:41,680 It's why I'm getting a great hair too much, I guess. 1645 01:54:44,800 --> 01:54:48,000 And I guess my reason again for asking is because 1646 01:54:48,000 --> 01:54:50,340 I always, again, I try to put myself in the shoes 1647 01:54:50,340 --> 01:54:54,520 of whoever before I address issues or things of that nature. 1648 01:54:55,000 --> 01:54:57,300 Had I been in the shoes, once again, of the administrator, 1649 01:54:58,100 --> 01:54:59,880 the administrator, I would have. 1650 01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:24,280 This in two, the board member, I'm respected that board members request openly that, hey, let me have a talk with him, let him know why I'm getting ready to do this. So I just kind of felt under my, you know, my own, myself that maybe others were aware and they knew and they were okay with it. And because nobody is asking him to stop the breaks on the pump, you know, to pause. This is why he's moving forward. That is my purpose for asking that question. 1651 01:55:24,700 --> 01:55:31,420 It's need to hear it there as it relates to who's not hearing anymore, but I'm gonna ask again and I guess I 1652 01:55:31,420 --> 01:55:35,240 I'm gonna be honest with you. I have a citizen now who are calling me or you say you know 1653 01:55:35,240 --> 01:55:38,080 It seems like your voice wouldn't even matter on that board anymore 1654 01:55:39,480 --> 01:55:44,660 Which sometimes I do feel that way as well, but I'm a continued to speak and I'll continue to do what it is 1655 01:55:44,660 --> 01:55:49,420 That I'm supposed to do as a board member. My my next question 1656 01:55:50,040 --> 01:55:53,220 I guess would be as relates to the 1657 01:55:53,220 --> 01:55:58,740 the scheduling of the grass, I think I've asked for a schedule and I think we've gotten off 1658 01:55:59,400 --> 01:56:06,380 because as an I, and I, and I peruse my district quite an often and the back road of, 1659 01:56:06,460 --> 01:56:12,200 and I'm talking to the administrator now, the back road of, oh god, hybrid's road in the 1660 01:56:12,200 --> 01:56:19,280 my period of my area, old federal road up in that park going back towards, some of us parkway, 1661 01:56:19,280 --> 01:56:27,820 It is horrible. Now you do have some people that are that are taking the notion of the option of more than all grass 1662 01:56:27,820 --> 01:56:34,800 But when I'm hearing that we're getting off schedule or we're continuing to be in the same area over and over again 1663 01:56:34,800 --> 01:56:42,760 And I just want to make sure that all all of our citizens matter not just one particular district not two 1664 01:56:42,760 --> 01:56:46,140 who district, not three districts, all five areas matter. 1665 01:56:46,740 --> 01:56:49,880 So I want to make sure that we can stay on track on the schedule. 1666 01:56:50,060 --> 01:56:52,000 I don't know if Mr. Curtis can give us an update. 1667 01:56:52,660 --> 01:56:55,960 I am a very aware that there are some equipment 1668 01:56:55,960 --> 01:56:57,740 that has been out of service, 1669 01:56:58,240 --> 01:57:00,860 and we're hopefully we are getting those things fixed, 1670 01:57:01,380 --> 01:57:03,700 or we need to have a request coming back before the board. 1671 01:57:04,020 --> 01:57:06,820 If we need more money or they need more money, I don't know. 1672 01:57:06,860 --> 01:57:10,360 But I just know that it does not look good 1673 01:57:10,360 --> 01:57:12,460 in district five as or right now. 1674 01:57:12,460 --> 01:57:19,400 So I don't know if you can chime in on that, Mr. Administrator, give us an explanation to what's going on. 1675 01:57:19,660 --> 01:57:23,360 Or you want us a couple of words to come and give some explanation to what's going on. 1676 01:57:23,760 --> 01:57:30,400 But I do want to make sure that we are getting some, some grass service and, and thisifies. 1677 01:57:35,930 --> 01:57:37,390 Do you need to know that? 1678 01:57:38,130 --> 01:57:38,430 Okay. 1679 01:57:40,190 --> 01:57:43,710 For the 30 ordinance on selling property, I think we talked about that. 1680 01:57:44,310 --> 01:57:46,250 I'm not sure what we are lacking to give a quick update. 1681 01:57:46,250 --> 01:57:52,850 Yes, I'm working on it. I think there were there were a couple statutory changes that I was trying to incorporate so that we wouldn't have to revisit it 1682 01:57:53,390 --> 01:58:00,850 I'm hopeful that as soon as we get through this budget season and all that that we can tackle at the end of your first or second meeting of October. Mr. Vice-Chief. 1683 01:58:02,110 --> 01:58:04,250 Okay, and my last thing is 1684 01:58:04,970 --> 01:58:10,430 I asked him in the motion in the last meeting. Again, that's what makes me feel like my voice is not valid. 1685 01:58:10,430 --> 01:58:39,570 I made a motion in the last meeting as related to where are we, or can we have a workshop with the workshop date so that we can have permanent leadership in this county via county administrator and our legal services did not ask that we make a vote and now as that we started the process so I guess to again, I know that I have no authority and probably won't be granted the authority to speak to HR so I asked 1686 01:58:39,570 --> 01:58:44,250 the kind of, in our administrator, where are we as a solidified 1687 01:58:44,250 --> 01:58:46,410 of workshop day or the chairman? 1688 01:58:47,030 --> 01:58:48,530 I'll talk to my colleague, the chairman. 1689 01:58:48,790 --> 01:58:51,970 Is it where are we as a related to solidified a workshop, 1690 01:58:52,150 --> 01:58:55,390 so that we can make sure that all of us are on the same page. 1691 01:58:55,530 --> 01:58:58,370 No, we won't take a vote, but we have to have in the conversation. 1692 01:58:58,970 --> 01:59:02,830 Each art can simply come back, bring the things that we already talked about 1693 01:59:02,830 --> 01:59:04,350 if we need to make some changes. 1694 01:59:04,930 --> 01:59:08,470 We should be able to do those things, but we need to have something in place 1695 01:59:08,470 --> 01:59:12,550 so that we can go from inch from to permanent sooner than later. 1696 01:59:12,690 --> 01:59:14,910 It may be at the end of the year, maybe at the top of the year. 1697 01:59:15,310 --> 01:59:18,230 That's fine with me. Where is the process? Where's the workshop? 1698 01:59:18,690 --> 01:59:20,470 Mr. Chairman, how can we handle that? 1699 01:59:20,490 --> 01:59:25,030 Yes, sir. But that's my talk to the county administrative about that last week, 1700 01:59:25,110 --> 01:59:27,670 to as well, because that's something that we discussed. 1701 01:59:28,490 --> 01:59:31,590 Now, for me personally, and I told them this right here, 1702 01:59:31,730 --> 01:59:36,550 we got to keep this thing rolling. But right now, what's important by my right now is 1703 01:59:36,550 --> 01:59:40,770 budget and once we get the budget out of the way, hopefully, and our total week can start 1704 01:59:40,770 --> 01:59:44,090 the process more than sometime, I told you some time I told you some time. 1705 01:59:44,090 --> 01:59:44,670 Yeah, I'm telling you. 1706 01:59:45,150 --> 01:59:50,490 And what the thing is that we got to make sure that we got a lot of serious things going on 1707 01:59:50,490 --> 01:59:50,730 right now. 1708 01:59:50,750 --> 01:59:55,850 We got the budget, it's something that we facing within the next couple of weeks right now. 1709 01:59:56,730 --> 01:59:59,110 So I want to keep that focus in front of us. 1710 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:15,440 Thank you. So, in knowing that, we know when the budget is due. So, we simply could still, we still can say, we can go ahead and plan a workshop for October 10th and I'm just on out of day. October 23rd, or November 2nd. I want to date. It's simple. Just a day. And it can be out the budget. 1711 02:00:15,740 --> 02:00:17,440 I mean, today. I'm sure you get a commission. 1712 02:00:18,160 --> 02:00:20,280 I will look forward to that before the next meeting. 1713 02:00:20,360 --> 02:00:22,980 Yes. So, my comments for tonight. Thank you all so much. 1714 02:00:24,910 --> 02:00:25,130 All right. 1715 02:00:25,130 --> 02:00:33,810 Next, I think Commissioner Green, next 15C, Commissioner Alazero-Cincus, District 2. 1716 02:00:36,410 --> 02:00:37,210 Thank you. 1717 02:00:37,530 --> 02:00:52,370 I want to first start by thanking Administrator and staff for assisting with the Lake 38 event, 1718 02:00:52,370 --> 02:00:57,570 which is called sponsor by the Bioters Development Council. 1719 02:00:58,110 --> 02:01:00,410 But thank you to the staff, 1720 02:01:02,430 --> 02:01:02,430 the 1721 02:01:04,540 --> 02:01:10,540 participants, the participants, and the visitors. 1722 02:01:12,560 --> 02:01:17,720 I'll spoke well and appreciate the hospitality. 1723 02:01:18,960 --> 02:01:24,340 I think, yes, in County, probably, I think we roll out the carpet. 1724 02:01:24,340 --> 02:01:31,860 more than they go to, I forgot how many different countries and then they're down in central 1725 02:01:31,860 --> 02:01:37,640 Florida, but the type, the way that we roll out the red carpet, they don't receive that 1726 02:01:38,460 --> 02:01:44,620 anywhere else and they're very appreciative of it. So again, thank you all. 1727 02:01:48,120 --> 02:01:50,300 It was a 1728 02:01:50,300 --> 02:01:56,420 the number of individuals attending these not just the participants, but you know, attend 1729 02:01:56,420 --> 02:02:05,320 these increase. So I think as it were, it's out, you know, have even more on participants. 1730 02:02:05,720 --> 02:02:13,700 I think we need, and this might be on the terms development. But we need like a listing of, 1731 02:02:15,400 --> 02:02:37,280 When visitors are coming in of like our places that we have available to stay at our restaurants and all of that stuff, we need that available to them. 1732 02:02:37,280 --> 02:02:40,800 I'm going to give you a question to Simpsons on point with that. Mr. Chairman. 1733 02:02:42,180 --> 02:02:46,280 I'm glad you mentioned the two is development because I did have a great. 1734 02:02:47,140 --> 02:02:51,080 So who are we even contacting our reaching out to now? 1735 02:02:51,160 --> 02:02:55,040 As you were listening to the two is development because there were some 1736 02:02:55,040 --> 02:02:58,160 I think it's the best tournament that's coming up. 1737 02:02:58,680 --> 02:03:02,740 They always try to pre-plan and one of the individuals who represent that 1738 02:03:02,740 --> 02:03:06,600 reached out to me because we know that we no longer have TJ. 1739 02:03:06,600 --> 02:03:11,720 we no longer have law and both of those individuals are very he would project as a relates to 1740 02:03:11,720 --> 02:03:18,760 TDC so I'm asking an interim administrator who are we who are they to reach out to what's what's the plan 1741 02:03:18,760 --> 02:03:21,740 as a release going forward with to a development council. 1742 02:03:22,060 --> 02:03:24,920 You think your commission there's something else for making me remember that. 1743 02:03:25,840 --> 02:03:26,520 Thank you, Commission. 1744 02:03:26,600 --> 02:03:32,240 You need to at this point we're working with Mrs. Mrs. Kathy Johnson is our truth. 1745 02:03:32,240 --> 02:03:33,660 It's how my truth's development. 1746 02:03:34,560 --> 02:03:34,960 Wow. 1747 02:03:35,720 --> 02:03:39,500 That's a little. Thank you. 1748 02:03:44,080 --> 02:03:47,180 Secondly, I'm trying to read my writing. 1749 02:03:48,080 --> 02:04:00,560 I want to say this because I know comments are kind of stated and it's not the first time that they've been stated. 1750 02:04:00,560 --> 02:04:06,460 Um, and I know what people are throwing off at, but I'm just 1751 02:04:06,460 --> 02:04:13,280 up front and I say, I'm going to say what I want to say in, and make it 1752 02:04:13,280 --> 02:04:19,300 known. Now, as it relates to this public words, I think that as a 1753 02:04:19,300 --> 02:04:23,320 boy, we need to figure out what's going on. So that you don't have to keep 1754 02:04:23,320 --> 02:04:29,320 asking, um, and making assumptions that only one district is, um, 1755 02:04:29,320 --> 02:04:54,640 The lawn is getting mold on there is a problem as a whole as it relates to the scheduling and I did I had there was an event going on and you had people coming from all over the world and it looked it looked the hot mess and I wanted that role clear now that's that's just one 1756 02:04:54,640 --> 02:04:59,960 But in other area, areas in the district, there. 1757 02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:26,660 Is the law needs to be cut? So it's not just district five where the law needs to be cut. Is district two also, and that one call does not prevent law being cut or the roles being cut throughout the month in these other areas. 1758 02:05:26,660 --> 02:05:32,660 So I think we need to, we just need to address and see what the issue is overall. 1759 02:05:33,760 --> 02:05:39,720 And you know, we not just put off and say always just happening at one, you know, the only one 1760 02:05:40,460 --> 02:05:47,860 every citizen in gas in county is important ever area in gas in county is important. 1761 02:05:48,500 --> 02:05:51,700 You know, and that's the way that we need to move. 1762 02:05:51,700 --> 02:05:58,740 represent a particular area, they put us in office, but we represent gas and kind of when we 1763 02:05:58,740 --> 02:06:07,600 go somewhere, we represent gas and cow. And so it's important for me, it's the entire county, 1764 02:06:07,720 --> 02:06:16,960 not just my area. So Mr. Administrator, it seems like it's an ongoing issue. And so we need to find 1765 02:06:16,960 --> 02:06:24,500 Now, what the issue is, because since I've been on this board, I've asked for us to take a look at contracting, 1766 02:06:24,840 --> 02:06:27,300 because maybe that was the issue with the cutting. 1767 02:06:29,140 --> 02:06:35,100 So, we need to look to see why what is the issue with the cutting. 1768 02:06:38,050 --> 02:06:48,690 And if equipment is being, we need to find out why the equipment is being, is it, is it, 1769 02:06:49,970 --> 02:06:57,630 something with the person that are operate, what was the problem? So those are things that we need to take a look at, 1770 02:06:57,630 --> 02:07:00,670 because we can't keep spending a million dollars on equipment. 1771 02:07:00,970 --> 02:07:05,670 We can't continue to buy every year, every other year, buying tractors. 1772 02:07:06,430 --> 02:07:08,110 And I felt bad for whoever that was. 1773 02:07:08,270 --> 02:07:12,490 I seen that little track that that track that looked like this from 1950 to 1940. 1774 02:07:13,590 --> 02:07:16,150 That was out there. So I noticed it was hot. 1775 02:07:16,150 --> 02:07:22,230 like that. So I don't know what where those new tractors that we purchased, where they are, 1776 02:07:22,590 --> 02:07:26,890 but you know those are things that we need to take a look at. We need to address. 1777 02:07:28,390 --> 02:07:34,090 And the schedules, whatever that schedule is, what I don't need, we don't need schedules just 1778 02:07:34,090 --> 02:07:39,450 cause it look good, whatever's on that schedule. So when Commissioner Green has asked him about his 1779 02:07:39,450 --> 02:07:48,510 district, and they over at and district too, then you're able to say, well, this is when this was supposed to be cut. 1780 02:07:49,770 --> 02:07:55,270 Yeah. Well, it's on point to Commissioner Simkins' record. 1781 02:07:56,630 --> 02:07:59,750 It's something to consider. I think we see a lot of money. We make a lot of money. 1782 02:08:00,250 --> 02:08:03,350 I remember when I was on the school board and I was quite a school board. 1783 02:08:03,530 --> 02:08:06,610 They hired somebody that was an inventory specialist. 1784 02:08:06,610 --> 02:08:14,830 They do, they go out and like you said, they labor everything that we have, they go back and find out. 1785 02:08:15,030 --> 02:08:21,590 We said we bought a tractor, so when they try to look at it, we said we bought a computer and maintenance and this and other. 1786 02:08:22,050 --> 02:08:25,390 So they go and labor everything, that's the job. 1787 02:08:25,750 --> 02:08:28,870 And also two, that person also can be a police officer, 1788 02:08:33,670 --> 02:08:34,050 right? 1789 02:08:34,050 --> 02:08:38,730 It's one in police officers who also doing an inventory as well. 1790 02:08:38,750 --> 02:08:44,090 That's what we did at school board, and I think you can have two in one, because if you 1791 02:08:44,090 --> 02:08:48,590 pay in that person, whatever you pay in them, you're going to, you're going to, the investment 1792 02:08:48,590 --> 02:08:52,730 is greater than what you're going to pay in because you want to keep in board equipment, because 1793 02:08:52,730 --> 02:08:56,890 I don't know when years ago, Commissioner, about three or four years ago, four, five years 1794 02:08:56,890 --> 02:09:00,970 ago, for you got here, I think we purchased about what ten zero turns. 1795 02:09:01,610 --> 02:09:06,690 I'm not sure the doubtful Curtis got off that he was hit on that time, Curtis, but I'm not sure 1796 02:09:06,690 --> 02:09:07,970 he probably still got him. 1797 02:09:08,050 --> 02:09:12,810 Somebody was saying, oh, we could use the cut of your day, they were, they were essentially 1798 02:09:12,810 --> 02:09:13,330 going to turn. 1799 02:09:13,670 --> 02:09:16,850 So what was the 10, 10, 15, 0 turns, look at it. 1800 02:09:16,850 --> 02:09:18,130 I'm going to use a for example now. 1801 02:09:18,810 --> 02:09:24,630 And so, but that's the true story, but I'm just saying, that's true, but I'm just saying 1802 02:09:24,630 --> 02:09:29,730 in general, but in my story, especially when we do stuff like that, now we got somebody 1803 02:09:29,730 --> 02:09:37,790 going in every department and put the works with housing with everybody across the board. 1804 02:09:38,110 --> 02:09:42,310 That's dead job. That's a full-time job. When trust me, we can say, me's $1.00. Just 1805 02:09:42,310 --> 02:09:45,070 by having that process. That's a good point, you may. 1806 02:09:46,190 --> 02:09:54,550 Well, next is, we have, oh, and on a little point, what she said, she owes you finish, on point 1807 02:09:54,550 --> 02:09:57,790 to as well, instead of hiring a contract 1808 02:09:57,790 --> 02:09:59,610 to as well, just in an option now. 1809 02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:12,160 It's a kind of contract. We also can hire a OPS. Because guys that do rolls, guys who just I hate to say a bit of GF, all right. 1810 02:10:12,480 --> 02:10:22,160 Don't guys not use your turn. You don't change the meaning thing. You may have guys just with jump stop the community, give some re-entry part of guys coming re-entry, got something for them to do. 1811 02:10:22,160 --> 02:10:24,380 that can be something that we can hire them 1812 02:10:24,380 --> 02:10:26,260 because they know how to, 1813 02:10:26,620 --> 02:10:29,440 you want to teach them how to use a long service. 1814 02:10:29,740 --> 02:10:30,700 Got it, man. 1815 02:10:31,120 --> 02:10:32,860 And so they already got the experience, 1816 02:10:33,120 --> 02:10:34,000 and they can go out and do things. 1817 02:10:34,180 --> 02:10:36,280 I have a strength in our community, 1818 02:10:36,780 --> 02:10:37,940 get those guys back working, 1819 02:10:38,020 --> 02:10:39,980 give them a three, three month contract for OP. 1820 02:10:40,020 --> 02:10:40,660 This is ideal. 1821 02:10:40,780 --> 02:10:42,040 Let's say we can't do. 1822 02:10:42,300 --> 02:10:43,080 That's just ideal. 1823 02:10:43,920 --> 02:10:45,780 All right, next, please hold. 1824 02:10:55,260 --> 02:10:56,620 Can you turn your mic on, please? 1825 02:10:57,460 --> 02:10:58,300 Thank you. 1826 02:10:58,420 --> 02:10:59,840 I need to ask Ms. Rainek a question. 1827 02:11:00,160 --> 02:11:00,440 Okay. 1828 02:11:00,440 --> 02:11:01,280 Hello 1829 02:11:07,720 --> 02:11:16,380 there, is there there was some funds that were left over from doing telehealth 1830 02:11:16,380 --> 02:11:19,860 money? Did we have some for Quincy? 1831 02:11:22,100 --> 02:11:24,160 Did we have any money left over? 1832 02:11:24,740 --> 02:11:31,220 Because we were doing telehealth in Havana, telehealth in Chattu and we were supposed to do something 1833 02:11:31,220 --> 02:11:32,480 in Quincy Library. 1834 02:11:35,600 --> 02:11:37,480 Yeah, that was another funding. 1835 02:11:43,780 --> 02:11:44,520 Why was it moved? 1836 02:11:44,720 --> 02:11:47,360 I mean, see, that's the problem that we're having. 1837 02:11:47,460 --> 02:11:49,080 The people in Quince are waiting on telehealth. 1838 02:11:50,160 --> 02:11:52,080 Be able to go and do that thing. 1839 02:11:53,480 --> 02:11:54,760 I might need to move my customers. 1840 02:11:55,040 --> 02:11:56,220 Nobody goes there. 1841 02:11:56,580 --> 02:11:57,620 Well, that'll be fine. 1842 02:11:57,740 --> 02:11:58,400 We can keep them blocked. 1843 02:11:58,600 --> 02:11:59,920 But it's too late now. 1844 02:12:00,300 --> 02:12:00,520 Okay. 1845 02:12:00,540 --> 02:12:01,260 How much was left? 1846 02:12:01,620 --> 02:12:03,440 What was out of those two? 1847 02:12:03,580 --> 02:12:05,060 How much should it be? 1848 02:12:05,060 --> 02:12:14,360 The original Commerce Project that was identified for the Quincy Library was $2 million to me, okay? 1849 02:12:15,100 --> 02:12:22,520 And then Commerce agreed to move that property and to move that funding to Havana. 1850 02:12:23,740 --> 02:12:23,880 Wow. 1851 02:12:24,040 --> 02:12:28,380 But then tell us that they weren't going to tell them how far we're 1852 02:12:30,490 --> 02:12:31,090 here. 1853 02:12:31,090 --> 02:12:32,930 on point when you say over here. 1854 02:12:33,050 --> 02:12:34,470 I mean, the question that we're going to be clear. 1855 02:12:34,790 --> 02:12:38,830 I would say it was both of the have the teller health at the point of that. 1856 02:12:39,330 --> 02:12:39,570 Barry. 1857 02:12:39,570 --> 02:12:39,770 Right. 1858 02:12:42,190 --> 02:12:43,610 And can you get a clarity? 1859 02:12:43,930 --> 02:12:46,230 Who gave the authority on the authorization? 1860 02:12:46,510 --> 02:12:46,530 Of course. 1861 02:12:46,590 --> 02:12:50,870 He's saying that it's the commerce deal, but he's telling her to sit down. 1862 02:12:51,070 --> 02:12:55,050 So, where she can't answer the question about the $2 million. 1863 02:12:55,790 --> 02:12:56,310 Oh, wow. 1864 02:12:56,330 --> 02:12:58,530 Because about $2 million the teller health commission. 1865 02:12:58,910 --> 02:12:59,290 I don't know. 1866 02:12:59,350 --> 02:13:00,710 We can't turn the gas on the question. 1867 02:13:01,070 --> 02:13:01,890 I didn't ask him. 1868 02:13:01,890 --> 02:13:02,670 I don't know. 1869 02:13:02,830 --> 02:13:03,390 Are you seeing what you're talking about? 1870 02:13:03,390 --> 02:13:04,150 I want to talk to you. 1871 02:13:04,730 --> 02:13:06,470 Not right now, not maybe later. 1872 02:13:06,630 --> 02:13:07,450 That's not her. 1873 02:13:07,490 --> 02:13:07,930 That's not her. 1874 02:13:08,090 --> 02:13:09,150 No, no, no. 1875 02:13:09,150 --> 02:13:09,690 I'm good. 1876 02:13:09,770 --> 02:13:10,750 I don't get you to talk about it. 1877 02:13:10,830 --> 02:13:12,190 I need to ask him something. 1878 02:13:12,710 --> 02:13:14,570 And I don't want to put him on the spot. 1879 02:13:15,130 --> 02:13:18,070 So I want to just wait and I can call him and ask him. 1880 02:13:18,070 --> 02:13:19,730 You know, problem about that. 1881 02:13:22,740 --> 02:13:26,020 But that needs some more information on that. 1882 02:13:26,020 --> 02:13:30,480 That to me, you know, who said and who I know that. 1883 02:13:30,480 --> 02:13:36,840 But the reason I asked that is because in a young lady brought her up to me when I was at the 1884 02:13:36,840 --> 02:13:45,120 Waffle House over in the In-Mirway that what happened and I told I didn't know and so she sent 1885 02:13:45,120 --> 02:13:52,820 me a text and so that's what I'm saying what happened with tell her health there now I do a little 1886 02:13:52,820 --> 02:13:58,420 bit more research because I didn't know I didn't know I couldn't answer her because I didn't know 1887 02:14:03,140 --> 02:14:07,800 for employees, where is that charter we asked for? 1888 02:14:07,800 --> 02:14:08,660 Mr. Monshade. 1889 02:14:09,100 --> 02:14:10,360 We're still working on it. 1890 02:14:10,500 --> 02:14:12,900 But we know the people are here. We know the positions. 1891 02:14:14,320 --> 02:14:17,380 So no, no, no, no, no, no. 1892 02:14:17,380 --> 02:14:18,500 We got to have that. 1893 02:14:19,300 --> 02:14:20,440 We got to have that. 1894 02:14:20,520 --> 02:14:23,000 I would like to get that as soon as possible. 1895 02:14:23,740 --> 02:14:24,700 Not later. 1896 02:14:26,200 --> 02:14:32,380 because that I said and doing a budget workshop when you cut people and then that's 1897 02:14:32,380 --> 02:14:37,400 fine and if that's what you're going to do. But if we cut in a budget, what services 1898 02:14:37,400 --> 02:14:44,700 do we cut? See, that's what we haven't had been answered. And that's in the regular budget. 1899 02:14:44,920 --> 02:14:52,000 Not in a sundown zero-based budget that you're going to need if that, if that detects 1900 02:14:53,060 --> 02:14:58,660 passers and I just had a debate with a guy at the Waffle House trying to convince him not to 1901 02:14:58,660 --> 02:14:59,380 vote for. 1902 02:15:00,860 --> 02:15:10,580 Yes, today, we will be over there yesterday. And so, I need to see all chart as soon as possible on the next meeting. 1903 02:15:12,460 --> 02:15:15,340 Do I need a motion for that? Commissioners? 1904 02:15:15,520 --> 02:15:17,140 Are we the main one? We didn't get it. 1905 02:15:17,240 --> 02:15:29,660 You didn't get it? Okay, that's right. We did it. We've all done that before though. Mr. Chairman, I moved that the minister to give us all chart on the next meeting. 1906 02:15:30,760 --> 02:15:32,040 That's my motion. 1907 02:15:32,240 --> 02:15:34,880 I'll give you our motion in a second, all in paper size. 1908 02:15:35,780 --> 02:15:38,020 I want to pose. 1909 02:15:39,060 --> 02:15:41,380 Okay, so the next minute we should have all the chart. 1910 02:15:42,160 --> 02:15:45,080 Okay, now we also voted on. 1911 02:15:45,180 --> 02:15:47,740 And Mr. Hoon came and asked for. 1912 02:15:48,100 --> 02:15:48,580 You can't. 1913 02:15:49,000 --> 02:15:49,320 I can still. 1914 02:15:49,900 --> 02:15:51,960 That guy got a whole lot of stuff. 1915 02:15:52,420 --> 02:15:57,820 Okay, but anyway, Mr. Hoon asked for a cutting schedule, a striking schedule, 1916 02:15:57,820 --> 02:16:03,040 a role maintenance schedule and a paven schedule. We're not receiving any of those and he's been a 1917 02:16:03,040 --> 02:16:09,720 field of months ago. So when can we get those schedules? Mr. Administrator. 1918 02:16:11,930 --> 02:16:12,270 He called me 1919 02:16:12,270 --> 02:16:13,910 this morning and reminded me. 1920 02:16:16,530 --> 02:16:19,210 So that way we could answer all those questions, permission to 1921 02:16:19,210 --> 02:16:22,830 send them because for what I was told they're over in District 2. 1922 02:16:27,650 --> 02:16:29,390 No, no, no, no, no, no, 1923 02:16:29,390 --> 02:16:36,710 I received a more inschedule right because I received one let me go back to July when y'all said 1924 02:16:36,710 --> 02:16:40,570 cuz everybody keeps saying they over in district one district too so let me help you 1925 02:16:40,570 --> 02:16:48,130 I received the more it's because I X for one because the grass was so high so I X for one and 1926 02:16:48,130 --> 02:16:56,410 based on the schedule right we were in August but the schedule said that that stuff was supposed to be 1927 02:16:56,410 --> 02:16:57,690 in July. 1928 02:16:59,810 --> 02:17:03,630 Okay, so the schedule is obviously not being so maybe it was over in 1929 02:17:03,630 --> 02:17:08,990 district four. Maybe they want I'm not sure. But based on the schedule it was not. 1930 02:17:09,210 --> 02:17:13,570 So if I made finish though, we don't have a schedule. That's what we need. 1931 02:17:14,650 --> 02:17:18,390 Okay, we've asked for it. So we've asked for it. We didn't get it. You got one. 1932 02:17:18,690 --> 02:17:22,590 We didn't get one. And the citizens didn't get one. Because that's what they're 1933 02:17:22,590 --> 02:17:28,310 about because they cannot get one. Okay. I'm going to say attorney got to ask you this right 1934 02:17:28,310 --> 02:17:35,010 queen. The properties that we have that do not sell that's on the tax roll that do not sell is 1935 02:17:35,010 --> 02:17:39,930 impossible for those families. You can look at any legal way that those families are possibly 1936 02:17:39,930 --> 02:17:46,550 by that property from us before it goes out to auction again because if it didn't sell, it's still 1937 02:17:46,550 --> 02:17:50,510 sitting there. Okay, if you can look at that now you have the answer because you're going to take 1938 02:17:53,390 --> 02:17:58,630 I'm evaluating that issue about whether or not there's a mechanism for us to allow people 1939 02:17:58,630 --> 02:18:01,430 whose families only a sheet of property. 1940 02:18:01,910 --> 02:18:03,410 Yeah, I asked you about it before. 1941 02:18:03,690 --> 02:18:04,530 First, write a refusal. 1942 02:18:04,790 --> 02:18:05,710 So that's something we're evaluating. 1943 02:18:06,370 --> 02:18:10,870 Once I bring the policy recommendation, it will include analysis on that. 1944 02:18:10,910 --> 02:18:11,130 Right. 1945 02:18:11,130 --> 02:18:12,950 That way, they can keep it in the family, right? 1946 02:18:13,350 --> 02:18:17,350 Now, as for TJ being fired, Mr. Men's Trail. 1947 02:18:18,030 --> 02:18:19,510 Will you find a TJ that morning? 1948 02:18:19,510 --> 02:18:20,030 Leave them work hard. 1949 02:18:20,250 --> 02:18:21,550 I'm not, I'm a finished. 1950 02:18:22,370 --> 02:18:24,330 Brownfield, people will send up that day, 1951 02:18:24,530 --> 02:18:25,610 waiting on him for a meeting. 1952 02:18:28,300 --> 02:18:30,360 So I don't care what anyone says. 1953 02:18:31,160 --> 02:18:33,700 You find somebody and we got outside people 1954 02:18:33,700 --> 02:18:36,340 sitting here, waiting on them. 1955 02:18:37,140 --> 02:18:38,520 And they're asking for. 1956 02:18:39,420 --> 02:18:40,680 That's not your option. 1957 02:18:40,940 --> 02:18:42,160 I don't care what any one says. 1958 02:18:42,700 --> 02:18:44,960 That's not your option to make the county look worse. 1959 02:18:47,490 --> 02:18:49,970 And I will bring this back up, and you'll 1960 02:18:49,970 --> 02:18:52,030 show you a privacy on Facebook and everywhere. 1961 02:18:52,030 --> 02:18:54,410 because that doesn't make any sense. 1962 02:18:54,690 --> 02:18:56,270 That's a 500,000-dollar contract, 1963 02:18:56,550 --> 02:18:57,290 so you're not there. 1964 02:18:57,470 --> 02:19:00,850 To evaluate the Brownfields. 1965 02:19:01,050 --> 02:19:03,270 And then they are, if we embarrassed 1966 02:19:03,270 --> 02:19:05,850 because they're not there, they're looking for him. 1967 02:19:05,990 --> 02:19:07,670 Call by his name. 1968 02:19:07,870 --> 02:19:08,910 Do we need to do 30 seconds? 1969 02:19:09,110 --> 02:19:10,990 Sure, I'm not going to try to make it quick. 1970 02:19:11,370 --> 02:19:13,730 I am so upset with that. 1971 02:19:13,870 --> 02:19:16,350 We've had a military that came in here 1972 02:19:16,350 --> 02:19:19,610 and gave us who they thought we should cut 1973 02:19:19,610 --> 02:19:21,310 by positions, not by names. 1974 02:19:21,890 --> 02:19:26,770 We have had some that got to get vise from some commissions and cut them. 1975 02:19:26,910 --> 02:19:28,750 So we've had it done both ways. 1976 02:19:30,390 --> 02:19:34,510 But to fire us somewhere when you got outside people, they can bring in money. 1977 02:19:35,310 --> 02:19:37,710 And that didn't work on that for over a year. 1978 02:19:39,050 --> 02:19:40,930 It's not fair to the employee. 1979 02:19:41,430 --> 02:19:42,790 It's not fair to the business. 1980 02:19:43,170 --> 02:19:44,210 It's not fair to the county. 1981 02:19:44,770 --> 02:19:47,270 For that right there you should be removed from that seat. 1982 02:19:49,350 --> 02:19:55,870 And that's my motion. I move that we replace the administrative and I move it every time I get in a seat 1983 02:19:55,870 --> 02:19:56,870 won't be that long 1984 02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:02,300 Motion, and a second, all in favor of sign. 1985 02:20:02,860 --> 02:20:03,020 Aye. 1986 02:20:03,020 --> 02:20:03,040 Aye. 1987 02:20:03,400 --> 02:20:04,160 One opposed. 1988 02:20:05,440 --> 02:20:06,280 All right. 1989 02:20:06,480 --> 02:20:06,880 Well. 1990 02:20:07,380 --> 02:20:08,140 Three vote. 1991 02:20:08,740 --> 02:20:09,340 A doubtful. 1992 02:20:10,340 --> 02:20:10,520 No. 1993 02:20:10,800 --> 02:20:11,520 They didn't approve. 1994 02:20:11,700 --> 02:20:11,900 All right. 1995 02:20:12,020 --> 02:20:13,880 So, let me just say that. 1996 02:20:14,000 --> 02:20:15,620 I've got to submit a separate quick. 1997 02:20:16,060 --> 02:20:18,980 Because of, I really want to say this. 1998 02:20:19,280 --> 02:20:20,200 It's so much to go on. 1999 02:20:20,540 --> 02:20:21,340 It's so many people. 2000 02:20:21,940 --> 02:20:23,140 Not meeting the head. 2001 02:20:23,360 --> 02:20:28,980 As we know a lot of folks passing away, closely, that close to us. 2002 02:20:28,980 --> 02:20:32,980 Not only that, we got other issues people can seek, everything else. 2003 02:20:33,480 --> 02:20:34,100 We got to start. 2004 02:20:34,100 --> 02:20:35,700 The reason why I said we got to start fellowship. 2005 02:20:36,060 --> 02:20:38,260 And I'm not saying that it's good. 2006 02:20:38,380 --> 02:20:40,520 The fellowship is something to learn each other sometime. 2007 02:20:42,900 --> 02:20:45,900 And start speaking low into each other. 2008 02:20:46,700 --> 02:20:48,140 But that's just my humble opinion. 2009 02:20:49,160 --> 02:20:53,720 I just believe it's easier to, my grandma always said, 2010 02:20:53,900 --> 02:20:56,820 you can catch more flies, we'll hunt it, 2011 02:20:57,040 --> 02:20:57,820 then with vinegar. 2012 02:20:57,820 --> 02:21:03,300 That's why I smiled. That's why I try to help many people, even people who sometimes 2013 02:21:03,300 --> 02:21:12,680 do neurons, they try to give them a hand. It's digital love to them. But when we come into 2014 02:21:12,680 --> 02:21:19,000 a presence, already stressed out already and tied up, and nobody can change us, I think 2015 02:21:21,760 --> 02:21:26,000 It's kind of hard to, it's kind of hard to, 2016 02:21:26,760 --> 02:21:29,440 what's the matter to receive your message a little bit, 2017 02:21:29,820 --> 02:21:33,080 because they feel as if fillers know that you won't be able to 2018 02:21:33,580 --> 02:21:35,720 keep into them, you won't understand anything they got to say. 2019 02:21:37,480 --> 02:21:39,320 But I just want to say this, man. 2020 02:21:39,780 --> 02:21:44,340 It's not a love each other and love each other. 2021 02:21:44,800 --> 02:21:48,260 We go to church every Sunday and steal 2022 02:21:48,260 --> 02:21:51,020 Once we leave church, we got to hate our heart. 2023 02:21:53,700 --> 02:21:54,420 Just love, 2024 02:21:57,840 --> 02:21:59,580 queers, everything. 2025 02:22:05,270 --> 02:22:06,890 Love, queers, everything. 2026 02:22:07,790 --> 02:22:09,050 They've got to think of it so well. 2027 02:22:09,370 --> 02:22:10,050 Yeah, sure, absolutely. 2028 02:22:10,370 --> 02:22:11,250 I'm about to end it up. 2029 02:22:11,410 --> 02:22:13,510 But once you finish doc and go ahead, hit the motion. 2030 02:22:15,050 --> 02:22:17,650 I just want to say, you know, say, to people looking. 2031 02:22:18,230 --> 02:22:20,990 The Brownfield Miranda is still moving forward without us. 2032 02:22:21,070 --> 02:22:22,190 I say, Brad, that's no problem. 2033 02:22:22,290 --> 02:22:23,030 We're moving forward. 2034 02:22:23,490 --> 02:22:26,970 Now, in terms of a administrative decision, 2035 02:22:26,970 --> 02:22:30,930 in terms of staff decision, that's purely an administrative role. 2036 02:22:31,430 --> 02:22:34,550 It's not a bullet, but what's the policy and budget, that's what they do. 2037 02:22:35,250 --> 02:22:39,090 And so I think when we get crossed up, we've got people trying to cross lanes. 2038 02:22:40,150 --> 02:22:41,470 But let's say this right here. 2039 02:22:41,750 --> 02:22:43,370 We came and had a budget workshop. 2040 02:22:43,710 --> 02:22:44,370 We looked at our budget. 2041 02:22:44,670 --> 02:22:46,330 We said, we're a man, I was in the hole, right? 2042 02:22:46,850 --> 02:22:47,030 Right. 2043 02:22:47,030 --> 02:22:49,330 You're looking at saying, well, you know, we're a man, I was in the hole. 2044 02:22:49,430 --> 02:22:50,210 4.6. 2045 02:22:50,670 --> 02:22:51,670 And 1.6 in the hole. 2046 02:22:51,950 --> 02:22:56,210 So you're looking to me to try to give you a balanced budget 2047 02:22:56,210 --> 02:22:58,230 that you can work with. 2048 02:22:58,890 --> 02:23:01,090 So if you look into me to do that, 2049 02:23:01,470 --> 02:23:03,990 nobody said, well, hey, we got some magic money 2050 02:23:03,990 --> 02:23:06,810 that we can give you to get us out of the hole, 2051 02:23:07,070 --> 02:23:07,830 so and so forth. 2052 02:23:08,270 --> 02:23:11,110 So quite naturally, if you don't have the resources 2053 02:23:11,110 --> 02:23:13,430 and you've got a storm coming, 2054 02:23:13,430 --> 02:23:15,730 you've got all these money that you've got to lose, whatever. 2055 02:23:16,250 --> 02:23:18,870 How can you function with less money 2056 02:23:18,870 --> 02:23:21,010 and more people in your head a few years ago? 2057 02:23:21,390 --> 02:23:22,470 You can't do that. 2058 02:23:22,830 --> 02:23:24,950 So if you're trying, if you're more interested 2059 02:23:24,950 --> 02:23:25,610 It's not a minister. 2060 02:23:26,090 --> 02:23:27,270 It's not a minister. 2061 02:23:27,270 --> 02:23:28,950 But for that reason. 2062 02:23:30,030 --> 02:23:30,570 Not for that reason. 2063 02:23:30,750 --> 02:23:31,370 It's not for that reason. 2064 02:23:31,370 --> 02:23:31,710 No, for that reason. 2065 02:23:31,970 --> 02:23:36,990 What I'm saying to you to understand is I don't have any, I don't get any great short 2066 02:23:36,990 --> 02:23:37,630 I could. 2067 02:23:38,670 --> 02:23:39,110 It's good. 2068 02:23:39,130 --> 02:23:40,750 After to make the budget. 2069 02:23:41,050 --> 02:23:43,890 It's just the reality of the situation is having throughout the state. 2070 02:23:44,310 --> 02:23:45,590 It is really good for the state. 2071 02:23:45,630 --> 02:23:46,170 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 2072 02:23:46,250 --> 02:23:47,210 But we did not. 2073 02:23:47,290 --> 02:23:47,890 Dean, sir. 2074 02:23:48,630 --> 02:23:50,370 The president has come before this door. 2075 02:23:50,530 --> 02:23:51,110 Thank you, Mr. Chairman. 2076 02:23:51,870 --> 02:23:52,330 You can start.