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Who is here with us on this evening for this, I'm swearing in. I like to call it a affirmation for myself. That's my personal choice of word. So good to see all of you that are here in support of this ceremony on this evening. And also, I've already asked class pastor Clifford Hill. If you'll give the invocation, and I'm putting that out there because we're having the changing of the hands, possibly, as a relates to chairman and vice chairman, if whomever that chair and vice chair is,

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I would like for them to honor Pastor Hill as of doing our prayer for this evening.

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All right, so we are going to go straight into our ceremony, and we're going to be in the hand of our honor of a judge, and we'll follow your instructions, Judge.

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All right, get in there.

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That's fine.

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Oh, you can, no, no, no, where's, Mr. Young is not here?

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Okay, we got you.

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We'll do the new commissioner, and then I'll go because I think he's wearing his daughter to get here, so we'll go with Commissioner,

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all right.

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Okay, so I'll go first, because Commissioner Henson is wearing his daughter, and I think Commissioner Wood is waiting on his wife,

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all right.

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All right, so, so, Judge, you're on a, you're on a, so what we'll do, because they're still waiting on people to come, we'll go ahead and do the invocation, and then hopefully the commission of what wife will be here in the daughter of commission enhance on to be here.

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All right, so pass the clip for the view, come at this time, please, and thank you.

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the great day in the Lord, let us pray.

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My hope is built on nothing less

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but Jesus' blood and His righteousness.

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I dare not to change the sweetest thing

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but hold on to His holy name.

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Almighty wise and eternal God,

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we come now in the name of Jesus

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to lift up your holy name.

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God, we come now asking that your Holy Spirit

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will come and speak with us and be with us

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as we go through this agenda

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at this county commission of meeting.

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God, we thank you for all of the things that you have done for us and we praise you for being

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God all by yourself. Lord, we just ask now that you will give us a loving heart, a loving mind

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and a loving spirit that we may conduct this meeting in decent and in order. We ask a blessing on

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each and everyone that is here present today. We pray for healing for families right now in the name of

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Jesus. So God guide us, lead us and protect us. God, we thank you for the new elected officers and that you will cover them as they go through this

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teacher's journey. For every member of Gaston County, their families, their officers and the leaders, we ask now that you will bless them, Lord. So God, we thank you in advance for what you're getting ready to do in Gaston County. So we love you. We magnify you. We glorify you. It is in Jesus name. We pray. Amen. And thank God.

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Amen. Amen. Thank you, Pastor of the St. Hebron Air and Mead Church. Thank you. We're going to stand for the pledge.

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Our pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which expands one nation under God, individual, with liberty and justice for all.

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Thank you. And as I stated, we will go ahead and move forward because we all are here. The officials are here, so we'll move forward.

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So commission sorry about the car you commission the judge if you're come forth at this time and we'll follow your instructions

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I go first sure cuz they still waiting

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Commissioner Green

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my mother and my son if they're calm and

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I do have other family members that are here as well

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So if you all are just stand with me family members just stand

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Diana to my mom's sister my

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And my brother and my niece, I see them as well.

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Would you please place your left hand on the Bible and raise your right hand and then repeat after me? Sure. Thank you. Absolutely. Okay. I, in state, your name. I, Renterias Green, do solemnly swear our firm, do solemnly affirm that I will support, that I will support, protect, protect and defend and defend the Constitution and government and government of the United States and of the state of Florida and of the state of

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of Florida that I am duly qualified to hold office under the Constitution, under the

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Constitution of the state and that I will well and that I will well and faithfully perform

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and faithfully perform the duties, the duties of County Commissioner, on which I am about

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to enter, in which I am about to enter. So help me God. So help me God.

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Congratulations, Commissioner.

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Thank you.

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you.

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Thank you.

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Power.

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do I do a good commission?

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How are you doing?

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Good.

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You're going to call up the family members.

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Who do you want to get the job?

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I'm not sure.

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Here.

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What do you want to do?

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You want to get started?

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Here?

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Yeah, that's right.

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We're early.

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There she is.

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She's here.

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here.

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No, she didn't just walk in, she's here. No, she's been here, she was here when I got

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here. No, wait in the door.

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don't want to

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keep your old weight in, so we would do

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five minute recess, I guess.

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apologize for the inconvenience.

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Joe's a little taller than I am so

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Yeah, class and night so

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She was able to stay out here in a way

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farther than

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I know I'm holding hands that way

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I think we can sing a song, shall we?

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How long? Because I don't want us to have to wait again. Okay. All right. Thank you. Um, Commissioner Wood.

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His wife is here.

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State your name. Do solemnly swear our affirm. Do solemnly swear our firm that I will support that I will support protect and defend the Constitution and government and government of the United States and the state of Florida and the state of Florida.

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That I am duly qualified to hold office under the Constitution, under the Constitution, of the state, of the state, and that I will well and out of will, well and faithfully, will and faithfully, perform the duties, the duties of the office, of the office, of county commissioner, of county commissioner, on which I am now, about to enter, I am about to enter.

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so help me God.

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So help me God.

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Congratulations, commissioners.

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right.

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All right.

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Commissioner Hanson is coming.

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She said it.

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His wife is here.

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OK, they come out the back.

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ordered it to stop raining.

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So we'll see how long it takes before it follows my court order.

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It's my beautiful daughter.

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I'll give her a hand.

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Now I'm going to say, you know how to tell you.

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You don't want to go out to this.

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Where are you?

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There's something I'm talking about.

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You got to love the kids, but you got to love the kids.

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And then you place your left hand on the Bible.

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OK, also.

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Raise your right hand.

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Here we go.

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Then repeat after me.

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I instate your name.

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I, Eric, of Hanson.

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Do solemnly swear or affirm?

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Do solemnly swear or affirm?

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that I will support that I will support protect and defend the Constitution and

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government and government of the United States and of the state of Florida that I am

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do la qualifier to hold office under the Constitution of the state of the state and

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I will, and that I will, well and faithfully, perform, the duties, the duties of the office, of county commissioner, on which I am now about to enter, so help me, God, so help me, God. Congratulations, commissioner.

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All

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right, thank you again, Judge Garner.

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We appreciate your services that you offer to this county.

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Thank you so much.

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Can we give our judge a hand?

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Thank you.

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Thank you so much.

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All right, so let me officially call this meeting back to order again.

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And saying that, we're at the part of what we're getting ready to exchange

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That means the hand of the leadership on the board as it relates to the chair and device chair.

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But before we do that, let me say to my colleagues that I'm thankful for the opportunity to have served this last year as your chairman.

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Actually been privileged to serve twice in the four years that I've been elected and serve this vice chair as well.

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So thank you all so much for the opportunity to serve you on this level.

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So with that being said, I will officially open up the floor to my fellow commissioners to make.

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I was told to follow, all right, so I'm going to officially open up the nomination or can you let me finish?

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Okay, thank you.

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I officially open up the floor for nomination for a chairman and we're going to see Commissioner Holt hand.

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So Commissioner Holt?

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Okay, I'd nominate Commissioner Henson.

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All right, Commissioner Henson, is there a second?

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I started it.

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All right, so is there another nomination?

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All right.

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All right, not hearing any, I guess we'll call the question.

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All in favor of commission, the Henson being the chair, please vote by saying aye.

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All right.

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Back pass, four to one.

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Next, please.

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Oh, sorry, commission, Henson.

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Give it up.

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Thank you very much, sir.

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First, I want to thank the fellow commissioners for

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interested me in the big chairman.

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So much, now I'm going to open the floor for the vice chairman.

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And now I'm going to eliminate my Commissioner Green.

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I'll take it.

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We have an nomination for Commissioner Green and we have a second.

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Anyone else want to make an nomination?

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Okay.

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For Commissioner Green, all in favor, could be screened to I and one of polls.

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Okay.

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Fable vote.

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Okay.

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All right.

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Congratulations, Commissioner Green.

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Likewise, sir.

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All right.

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Mr.

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Chairman, commissioners, we have a request to add the public hearing.

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The approval of resolution 2024-028 general and grant budget amendments for fiscal year 2024 as item 10a.

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Okay, we're going to add a member to agenda for 10A, all in favor.

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I mean, first of all, we need a motion for it to have a motion on the floor.

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Move the program.

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Seconded.

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Okay, we have a motion in second.

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All in favor, sir?

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Uh-huh.

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You want to pose?

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The name?

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Okay, five will vote when.

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Okay.

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Okay, we have a number five with the approval of the agenda.

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Move the program.

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Okay, do you have a second?

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a lot of making a amendment to the agenda.

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Make a amendment to the agenda.

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Do we have a second person?

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I'll second it.

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The amendment.

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Second with a question.

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My amendment would be that we have an external entity come in and look at the allegations that are going on. I understand that there is an internal that's going on currently, but I believe we should have an external, okay, because I think that clarity and transparency is important.

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So we're going to add that we'll add it to the agenda. I like to add it to the agenda, so people in the crowd can talk about it.

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Okay, we can put a general business for 12, I mean, 12-8.

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11-C, Mr. Chairwoman.

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11-C, okay, great, 11-C.

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The other one, I'd like to make a second one.

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Okay, yes, we can vote on this right now, I guess, we can get this out of the way.

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Okay, we want to add 11-C, external investigation, external investigation of the county.

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We have a motion, we have a motion, would you have a second?

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I'll second it, but I have a question.

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She has a second with a question.

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Yes, so do we want to, that one, that one would be for discussion so we can decide on

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it.

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So that was just the only thing for discussion.

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Correct.

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Okay.

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That's it.

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Okay.

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Okay, we got a motion, a second, all in favor, sir.

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Aye.

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And when I pose, five will vote, we'll add 11 to the agenda.

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11 to see, I'm sorry.

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The next one, I'll commission with.

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Yeah, I would like to, I have two new employees and I would like to talk about their contracts and so I can get updated and you can tell me where we are and what the status is.

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I mean, yes, sir, you're in the law, you're in the attorney.

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Oh, okay, so you want to add that to the agenda?

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Yes, sir.

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Yes, sir.

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Are we adding that to the agenda, or should we wait for comments at the end of the meeting?

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I mean, that you can have the, if you want to have it at the end of the meeting, or just

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doing your comment time.

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Yes.

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But if a question she may have.

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All right, thank you all right

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anything else I'm

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not sure to call you the more commissioner major would it doesn't matter. Okay, great

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I answered to a lot of things. Okay, Commissioner Wood

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Are you have anything else commission?

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When add no sir. It's right. All right, great job

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Okay, we need to prove the

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Okay, first of all we need to prove the agenda as a minister

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We have a motion and a second, all in favor, aye?

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Aye.

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And one of the polls, OK, 5-0 vote.

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So the next is the number 6, award, presentation, and appearance.

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Over there, over there.

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OK, my bear.

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OK, number 7, consent agenda.

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No, for approval.

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Second.

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Okay.

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We got a motion, a second.

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All in favor sign?

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No.

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Okay.

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No.

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Item 8.

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Item 4.

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Item 4 for discussion, huh?

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No.

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No, I don't know.

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Okay.

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Great.

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All right.

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Number 9, citizen, we're questioned to be heard on non-agentive items.

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Okay.

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Great job.

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The guessing candidate, board of kind of commissioners, welcome and encourages public participation

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in all meetings of the board.

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Citizens are free to speak for up to three minutes on non-agenda items.

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Public comments and participation are also encouraged for items on the agenda.

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Additionally, if you are unable to attend a meeting in person,

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comments on the public can also be submitted via email to one word.

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Citizens to be heard at Gaston County, LL.gov, again, citizens to be heard at Gaston County, LL.gov, until noon, on the date of the official records.

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But the county cannot guarantee that commissioners and staff will have adequate time to review comments prior to the meeting.

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Citizens are farther encouraged to participate on the county website.

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All right. So now we have cars on the table here. We have some speaker appears for them. I'll pray that everybody has a chance to sign this. If you want to come up with a speech, first speaker is writing more.

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More?

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Um, right in the more key company to speak.

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It's a reference to the county management.

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Good afternoon.

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My name is Rodney Moore.

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My address is 1404 St. Heavon Road.

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I'm a big Dallas Cowboy fan and Jerry Jones promised us for the last 23 years that we're

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going to get back to the Super Bowl and win it.

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You stuck with Dak Prescott.

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We haven't gotten there.

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The late, great Senator Thomas said, if you're a county administrator or a city manager, you got a baby count to three.

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From Mr. Dixon has been able to count to three for about four years.

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He's had the football team for four years and we haven't gotten to the Super Bowl yet.

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He has an employee that's out of control, travels to George all the time, is involved with some vehicles that were sold that you guys knew what he said, that you guys knew he didn't know anything about.

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Well,

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also shops have been broken down at the kind of road and bridge on several occasions.

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And on one occasion, they used the county vehicle to haul the materials off.

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Nobody in jail, nobody held accountable.

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They said the lawn wasn't set, the first time, the second time, the third time, that's on his watch.

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1.304 million dollars spent on county administration cars, whatever happened to a pool car car that can get whoever needs a drive from one point to another with some air, and maybe some heat while purchase $60,000 cars on his watch.

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Howling his friends and others, one point some million dollars in administrative salaries,

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while the guys and gals who are then the elements in the heat and then the coal,

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mosquitoes and fighting off traffic, pretty much tell them you look at have a job under his watch.

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This goes on and on and on, no economic development.

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As far as I can understand, he has not bought few guys anything to look into.

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to help bring this county where it needs to be, and some people right here in this room,

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or have parents or grandparents who, these tackers have gone up, and

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I know for a fact there are people who are complaining that, how are we going to pay these taxes on his watch?

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It's time for a change, Mr. Dexon needs to go, I don't know the city manager.

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I'm sorry, I've talked about him so much.

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the county manager, county attorney, I'll get it right in a second, $62,000 in a month and a half.

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No, sir, no, ma'am, we can't afford that.

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At the rate that shall be paying the county attorney, half a million dollars.

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Obviously, he bills you guys from the time he gets in the shower at home until he gets here, until he gets back home and get back in the shower.

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Commissioners, we can't afford that.

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MacArthur's lawn service, while they're writing checks to vendors to pay for

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a county business on his watch, there's something going on, like I've said on these videos.

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He knows about it, it's chief of staff is involved in stuff that every time things come up,

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even next door, those two buildings over there with Mr. Huttley's building, with the rent and the light bill.

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Three names come up, the city manager's name, Mr. Dixon's name, and Mr. Hayes.

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And I would hate to see us in the same shape where the city's headed.

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When I tell y'all hold on, help is on the way, it's on the way, and it's not going to

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be good for some people.

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Don't be complicit at what's going on.

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It's time for a change, and I know certain commissioners like to use a race car, this is not

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a bot color.

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It's a bot green, like I've said before.

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or when people have the determine what they're going to pay their taxes, pay their insurance,

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or by medication some of these folks, they shouldn't have to do that.

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If y'all want to know, Commissioner Holt and them went to Mississippi, economic development.

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My advice would be, get in a car, go 15 miles to famous, they'll show y'all what needs to be done.

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Go 25 miles west to Maryanna, they'll show you what needs to be done.

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Jerry Jones hasn't delivered and neither has Mr. Dixon.

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Mr. Dixon and the county attorney need to go.

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Thank you.

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All

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right.

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Now, Dr. Tracy Starworth,

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he was to speak on the Columbus, Mississippi trip.

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Good evening, everybody, and your perspective places.

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How are you this morning?

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I mean, evening.

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Good.

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All right.

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Long nap today.

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I'm

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going to read this if you don't mind.

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I want to pit my thoughts.

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Make sure I stay focused.

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First of all, my address is PO Box 1339, Quincy, Florida.

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I love Gaston County.

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I serve Gaston County, me and my wife feed like 250 people weekly.

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We see people in the trenches, we bring people to our farms,

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talk a little about God.

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We get their hands in the dirt, and we envision where they want to be out in the future.

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So that is my mission.

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I have the privilege of participating in a transformative trip to Columbus, Mississippi, under the leadership

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of county manager Ed Dixon and economic development director T.J. Lewis.

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This experience was profoundly important to me as a planning commissioner.

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It provided valuable insight and a clearer vision to make major decisions that will benefit

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Gaston County.

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However, I must express my disappointment in the lack of representation from our elected officials

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in the surrounding county.

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While I don't know their reasons for not attending, I want to remind them of

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of the responsibility they assume when they chose to run for office and

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the trust place in them by the citizens who voted them in.

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Opportunities like this trip offers critical perspectives that can inspire meaningful

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change for our county and such occasions should not be missed.

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Columbus, Mississippi with a population of 23,035, according to the 23,

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in 2023, Google Check, is outperforming Gatson County with which has a population of 43,833.

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Despite their smaller size, they have achieved remarkable progress by bridging gaps and

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fostering collaborations for the greater good of the community.

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Was it easy for them?

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Absolutely not.

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But what made their success or reality was their shared commitment to a common goal,

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making Columbus, Mississippi a better place for its residents, which we are not all the

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way there in my opinion, but we can by choosing to.

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As I conclude, I pose this question to all of us, when will we come together with the

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unified purpose to make Gasson County great?

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The time is now, let's seize the opportunity to work together for a brighter future.

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Now, when we entered into Columbus, Mississippi, I was happy.

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I was like a little kid when I got my first happy meal.

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I was happy.

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You know why?

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Because we went to Packard Industries, I don't know if it's industry, but

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Packard who makes the Peter Bill.

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And I saw African-American women working, making good pay.

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But I saw other people working as well.

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And what I saw was when we, I can't remember his name, he's the economic development.

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Joe Max Higgins.

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Okay, Max Higgins.

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He came with a plan and everybody got on board.

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As I indicated, it wasn't easy, no, it was not easy.

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But it was about Columbus, Mississippi growing.

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And now they got a place where they can send people to commit a university to go to school

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for two years to get trained.

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if a new industry comes in, they'll train these people so they'll be ready for the organization.

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So it won't be no problem.

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And that's what I see what Ed Dixon is doing and TJ, they're trying to bring something

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here better for Gaston County.

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We're ranked 67 out of 67 out of school systems.

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We didn't see any representations from the school board with respect.

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We have

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We have to be willing to get past our own biases and set our own emotions to the side and say, what are we going to do for gas and county? Because this is 20, 20, 40, 1950, 80, 1960, things are progressing. What are we going to do for our youth? I'll tell you personally as I land. If we don't have a job for our kids, it's going to be a wall, wall, west, like up north and different places. Thank you. Thank you.

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And I'm waiting for the phone call.

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All right question you want to talk to this educate me sure sure so I was getting

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interested in what he was talking about sir do I have the ability to yield him minutes

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now the board has to thank you yes all

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right here we go so you want you know you got

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the question for me yeah I have a question come on come on it's okay we all found

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But I know we time try to get it.

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Yeah, I know.

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First, don't talk to him a little bit about it.

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Okay.

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About a guy.

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Talk to him a lot about it when they come.

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Yeah.

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I mean, what's your idea here?

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I mean, your idea, a guy.

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I mean, tell me what you think we need to do to do,

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to take what you went and did and put it in the practice.

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Well, what I did was, um,

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I thought it came us in the community.

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I started talking to people.

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I would see people in the grocery store, I would see people on 7th Street.

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Everybody, hey, come in, let me talk to you for a minute.

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I would even take some people out to eat, just to ask them, how did you get to where you are right now?

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Thank you so much.

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I got to do this this close that I'm about to send to a rehab.

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His mama died, no other family, no resources that he couldn't think of.

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And then he got hooked on some other stuff.

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There are a lot of things out here that could be done, but the real question is this, are we willing to meet the people where they are?

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That's what we got to do. We got to be willing to meet the people where they are. We got to be able to have town hall meetings.

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And I know that you guys are doing town hall meetings, but you got to go out there just like you campaign. You got to knock on them doors. Hey, I need you to participate in this town hall meeting.

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I need your input.

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How can I help you so that we can help Gaston County be better and be great?

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There's so many, I mean, there's a mirror to things that we can talk about.

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But overall, we got to be willing to have discussions.

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We got to be willing to have a conversation.

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One of the key things with my son, my son gets mad, he gets angry.

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And I tell him that he has to set aside his thoughts, his behaviors, his attitude, and

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calm down, take a deep breath, and let's just talk.

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Well, that's the only way that we're going to be able to change.

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I'm just being honest and being transparent.

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And the other thing I would say is with respect.

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When there's a lot of commotion that's going on in different places, social media, et cetera, corporations don't want to come here.

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They don't want to come in the mess.

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I just say that with respect.

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I'm just being honest because let me flip this.

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Would you move to a neighborhood that's drug-infested, gun play?

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I'm just throwing it out because they're having a different place and no, you wouldn't.

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You would choose somewhere else to go.

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I'm just saying that we got to be willing to have a conversation.

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The Bible clearly states, if you have an alt with your brother, you go to him, you talk to them.

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That's how I live my life.

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I got a problem with anybody.

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No one can tell you anything about me.

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I'm going to come to you, we just need to start having more realistic conversations.

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I think that if we have a realistic conversation, I think that we can move past a lot of this stuff and do further.

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But I will say this as I leave, I understand what the county commission is going through when I sat there and

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listen to the economic development.

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It's hard to get people together.

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I coach part one of football, it's hard to get them kids to get them plays down, but we got to do a practice over and over and over and over.

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But I understand your job a little bit, I don't want it, but I understand, because it's hard.

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It's hard, but if we have a team like they got a team,

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they're making it happen, and lastly, I know I'm jumping a little bit because I'm decided.

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But they have something that's coming up, that they're already set up in place to hire 3,000 people, if I'm not mistaken.

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3,000 people, what if we can hire 3,000 people here in Gaston County?

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We could stabilize the economy a little bit, we could stop crime a little bit.

468
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:26,780
I think I want to see Gaston County thrive and be the place to be. That's why I moved here to Gaston County. I could have moved anywhere else. But I chose to move to Gaston County. Why? Because my great-granddad, he lived here and had a tobacco farm. And he worked with FAMU. So to me, that's legacy for me. And so I just want to continue his efforts to help the community. But thank you for staying some time.

469
00:40:26,780 --> 00:40:31,400
So you're telling me re-entry recovery and jobs and cohesiveness

470
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,860
Is that that the just what you said? Yeah, we need that but

471
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:41,740
Can I just approach the doctor to illustration real quick? You you can talk to me later because I know they're busy

472
00:40:41,740 --> 00:40:45,660
But I'm always welcome to no, I just want to show you something real quick. This is what we have to do

473
00:40:49,240 --> 00:40:54,460
Brother we always been good. We got to be willing to go and risk together and communicate and talk with people

474
00:40:55,060 --> 00:40:57,200
Can't just talk to people across on social media?

475
00:40:58,220 --> 00:41:03,100
You got to meet the people where they are, you can't be afraid to re-engage or engage, I'm sorry, engage.

476
00:41:03,620 --> 00:41:05,100
You got to meet the people where they are.

477
00:41:06,540 --> 00:41:07,900
Thank you, thank you.

478
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:09,420
Thank you very much.

479
00:41:10,300 --> 00:41:12,240
Our next is our daughter, Thomas.

480
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:29,080
She also want to talk to talk about her Columbia trip to as well, Columbia, Mississippi trip.

481
00:41:29,080 --> 00:41:37,660
Weat my name is Dorothy Marie Fag Thomas. I live at 586 Shiloh Road in

482
00:41:37,660 --> 00:41:42,580
Quincy, Florida. 3, 2, 3, 5, 1. We don't

483
00:41:45,690 --> 00:41:52,610
want tomorrow brings in a world where

484
00:41:52,610 --> 00:42:10,090
few hearts survive. All we have is here right now in our lives, hoping to find the

485
00:42:10,090 --> 00:42:24,830
road is alone. There are mountains in our way. But we climb a

486
00:42:24,830 --> 00:42:36,930
step every day. Lord, lift us up where we belong. I stand here

487
00:42:36,930 --> 00:42:46,410
today because I sit on the morning and see many times here, I will be 72 years old.

488
00:42:48,590 --> 00:42:50,910
I am a former educator,

489
00:42:54,250 --> 00:43:01,250
I am a citizen and definitely I don't appreciate night sitting

490
00:43:01,250 --> 00:43:06,250
here and seeing people going back and forth trying to put each other down with something they

491
00:43:06,250 --> 00:43:07,990
could have settled before they got here.

492
00:43:07,990 --> 00:43:08,830
I

493
00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:16,660
don't stand scary about a job, another of those other things.

494
00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:21,860
I just want to see grown-ups, act like grown-ups.

495
00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:25,780
And I stand as a senior citizen tonight.

496
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:29,600
I've heard enough of the name calling.

497
00:43:30,620 --> 00:43:34,200
My word of God says that if I can't judge people,

498
00:43:35,260 --> 00:43:38,940
he's the only one perfect and he's the only judge.

499
00:43:39,420 --> 00:43:44,160
He also tells me in the word that if I have something against someone, go to that person.

500
00:43:44,960 --> 00:43:50,080
If I can't get it done with that person, I go two or three more people, and then I go to the top.

501
00:43:51,600 --> 00:43:58,880
But I never, you'll never find me scandalizing anyone because I'm not perfect.

502
00:43:59,900 --> 00:44:06,260
I'm standing about the trip tonight, but I just had to let you know God is not pleased with some of the stuff you're doing in Gaston County.

503
00:44:06,260 --> 00:44:14,000
and I have about 1,200 people, 12, yeah, 12 something on my Facebook and they like to ask me,

504
00:44:15,500 --> 00:44:21,100
mother, Thomas, that's what they call me. Why do you, a lie, I don't lie to nothing.

505
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:29,180
Why do you sit there and talk about one another like you do and carry on in the business of the town

506
00:44:29,180 --> 00:44:33,020
when we should have been getting people out to vote, we were talking about trash.

507
00:44:34,140 --> 00:44:38,380
There's no secret about the board because everything is recorded.

508
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:42,060
I don't need anybody to go to the courthouse for me.

509
00:44:42,500 --> 00:44:43,560
I can go for myself.

510
00:44:44,300 --> 00:44:47,300
I don't need anybody to put in the thing on land for me.

511
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:49,420
I can read for myself.

512
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,820
And I feel like this, if you can't say something good about somebody,

513
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,240
you know, we always bring up the worst things about someone.

514
00:44:57,700 --> 00:44:59,580
But we never tell the good that they do.

515
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:27,160
I be with these people a whole lot, but I wanted to know I went to the trip and I know my time is up. You can't ask me to sit. I am an educator. So what was so fabulous about that trip is that there were eighth graders going to a computer college university. And they will be trained to get jobs, not little jobs like Mike Dungeons and I don't put Mike Dungeons down at all. And I'm talking to the crowd because we came for a show tonight.

516
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:32,980
But God says, no, show, no show tonight.

517
00:45:33,540 --> 00:45:35,220
We came to do the business of the town.

518
00:45:35,660 --> 00:45:36,820
We know what you said.

519
00:45:37,020 --> 00:45:38,080
We read your text.

520
00:45:38,260 --> 00:45:39,380
We've seen your things.

521
00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:42,560
A lot of boys are handling it.

522
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:48,650
I have been here many years looking at seeing what people are doing,

523
00:45:48,730 --> 00:45:50,910
but I'm so disappointed with Gaston County.

524
00:45:51,330 --> 00:45:57,230
Citizens going out of land when we got 82% of people who are voting

525
00:45:57,230 --> 00:46:00,610
And others can be voted, but we aren't out there trying to get people to vote.

526
00:46:00,790 --> 00:46:04,110
We aren't there trying to scandalize names and talk about salaries.

527
00:46:05,470 --> 00:46:10,530
You want to know my salary, I tell it to you myself, y'all stop acting like you're acting.

528
00:46:10,810 --> 00:46:15,930
Stop doing what you're doing, black on black, but the trip was very educational.

529
00:46:16,430 --> 00:46:17,670
It was high-end job.

530
00:46:18,410 --> 00:46:23,290
Yes, I could go to Bainbridge and I head to my seat, but Bainbridge don't have the jobs that

531
00:46:23,290 --> 00:46:24,370
I want them to have.

532
00:46:24,370 --> 00:46:31,010
And I talked to my cousin who lives in Bangalore, but the jobs we saw were by people houses.

533
00:46:31,590 --> 00:46:34,550
The jobs we saw were draw people to the western county.

534
00:46:35,350 --> 00:46:38,950
So, all that other stuff, y'all meet down on the corner with it.

535
00:46:39,170 --> 00:46:40,410
Let's do the business of the town.

536
00:46:40,770 --> 00:46:41,910
Thank you very much.

537
00:46:44,360 --> 00:46:45,860
All right, thank you very much.

538
00:46:46,380 --> 00:46:51,300
That's one of my favorite songs, I must tell you that me, my sister's singing the song all the time.

539
00:46:51,420 --> 00:46:54,480
I can sing a lick, but one of my sisters is back there now.

540
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:56,740
She also just saying what went into as well.

541
00:46:58,260 --> 00:47:09,160
Next, we have Mr. Michael K. Brown, he want to talk about the county, Michael Brown.

542
00:47:12,550 --> 00:47:15,750
Good afternoon, good evening, commissioners, attorney.

543
00:47:16,330 --> 00:47:21,050
My name is Michael Brown, I've decided at 588 Charles Brown Road, Friendship Area,

544
00:47:21,950 --> 00:47:25,050
Commission of Hope is my commissioner.

545
00:47:25,990 --> 00:47:32,010
I reached out to a few of you, some of you I was able to get contact with, some of you I wasn't, I appreciate you taking my call.

546
00:47:32,910 --> 00:47:35,730
And I do come somewhat waving the white flag.

547
00:47:36,390 --> 00:47:38,590
I've been living in Gaston County all my life.

548
00:47:38,990 --> 00:47:40,730
And I'm very proud of Gaston County.

549
00:47:41,110 --> 00:47:43,010
I really love this place, it's a beautiful town.

550
00:47:44,210 --> 00:47:48,210
I'm concerned about some of the things that we have going on in this town, because I love this town.

551
00:47:50,010 --> 00:47:56,590
And thank you for, when you get off of Pat Thomas, there's a sign that home was the

552
00:47:56,590 --> 00:47:58,750
most valuable player, Dexter Jackson.

553
00:47:59,410 --> 00:48:03,970
We live 22 miles from two of the greatest university, one of them being Florida State University,

554
00:48:04,210 --> 00:48:08,390
and one of the biggest and best HBCU, not Southern-Rong Green.

555
00:48:10,410 --> 00:48:16,550
Right here from Gaston County, we had a head football coach from Quincy, right here from

556
00:48:16,550 --> 00:48:17,130
this town.

557
00:48:17,130 --> 00:48:22,550
One of the best bands in the lands of Marching 100, we have a drum major right here from Quincy.

558
00:48:23,310 --> 00:48:26,110
We have FBI agents that's right here from Quincy.

559
00:48:26,970 --> 00:48:29,530
Now, I represent the gassing kind of soil and water board.

560
00:48:29,670 --> 00:48:33,370
Some of you don't even know what that is, but I'm the chairman of the board there, just like you the chairman.

561
00:48:33,870 --> 00:48:35,450
So I went to Gainesville last week.

562
00:48:35,570 --> 00:48:36,190
I meet people.

563
00:48:36,650 --> 00:48:38,970
Now, all I'm saying and I'm kind of encouraging you.

564
00:48:39,050 --> 00:48:43,990
I want to see things change for what we have going on in this town.

565
00:48:43,990 --> 00:48:47,310
I want us to be known for things like the sign with Dexter Jackson.

566
00:48:47,770 --> 00:48:53,890
I won't CBS coming to us every day like the doctor said that people he walking up the

567
00:48:53,890 --> 00:48:58,010
people should be coming here saying, man, you know, we want to use most unique towns

568
00:48:58,010 --> 00:48:59,830
problem in the state of Florida.

569
00:48:59,850 --> 00:49:05,250
I'm going to tell the United States, but what we have, how we set up here, seeing anyone

570
00:49:05,250 --> 00:49:05,990
should be breaking down.

571
00:49:06,070 --> 00:49:06,810
How y'all do it?

572
00:49:06,850 --> 00:49:08,290
Our school should be doing good.

573
00:49:08,730 --> 00:49:09,790
Crime rates should be down.

574
00:49:09,790 --> 00:49:14,050
We got these signs that mirror over there on product that you all have on that wall there

575
00:49:14,050 --> 00:49:18,890
So all I'm saying my elected officials some of you were just sworn in

576
00:49:18,890 --> 00:49:26,730
If you this will keep your humble if you ever keep the people read to your heart and always know that you're working for the people

577
00:49:26,730 --> 00:49:28,850
You won't have no kind of problems

578
00:49:28,850 --> 00:49:34,010
Not about you district one two three four five. That's not what it's about

579
00:49:34,010 --> 00:49:38,770
But if you keep the people at your heart that's from the sheriff that's for the school director

580
00:49:38,770 --> 00:49:44,110
that's for the chairman of the board, that's for the city commissioner, the county commissioner.

581
00:49:44,650 --> 00:49:46,830
I graduated from school in 1987.

582
00:49:47,450 --> 00:49:52,210
I used to become rent down town and go over there to a place called Quality Shop and buy my school clothes.

583
00:49:52,610 --> 00:49:54,470
I could go rent down here and get a half cut.

584
00:49:54,910 --> 00:49:58,650
I could go buy me a suit out of pay our jeans from a place called Witties.

585
00:49:59,250 --> 00:49:59,970
You know, if you want to-

586
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:29,740
I want to encourage you all to let's get right. You know the stuff echoing. We ain't got time for this. We shouldn't even be having these meetings. Some of the stuff going on. I'm ashamed. I'm ashamed. And I love this town. I don't want us known for when I go smoke what y'all doing over there. Got this going on, that going on. So I humble it. Asking each and every one of you to look into yourself and represent the people not about us and this and that.

587
00:50:29,740 --> 00:50:31,080
Okay, thank you very much.

588
00:50:31,460 --> 00:50:32,100
Thank you.

589
00:50:32,420 --> 00:50:33,020
Mr. Chairman.

590
00:50:34,000 --> 00:50:34,660
Mr. Chairman.

591
00:50:34,860 --> 00:50:35,540
Mr. Brown.

592
00:50:35,840 --> 00:50:36,140
Yes, sir.

593
00:50:37,380 --> 00:50:37,780
Commissioner.

594
00:50:38,120 --> 00:50:38,340
Sure.

595
00:50:38,440 --> 00:50:41,560
Before you call your next person, if you kind of keep...

596
00:50:41,560 --> 00:50:44,720
Well, if I can say this, we'll ask if you don't make any comments

597
00:50:44,720 --> 00:50:47,100
doing the person that's speaking, if you'll be just kind,

598
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,560
and just keep your arms and arms.

599
00:50:49,760 --> 00:50:50,520
Yes, that's right.

600
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:51,260
To yourselves.

601
00:50:51,480 --> 00:50:51,740
Thank you.

602
00:50:55,740 --> 00:50:58,520
And thank you, Ms. Brown, for those encouraging words.

603
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,720
And yes, I was one of those guys that you called.

604
00:51:00,720 --> 00:51:05,820
And I apologize, I was so tied up, but normally it's your phone call all the time.

605
00:51:06,580 --> 00:51:12,580
But I apologize this time, I probably answered two or three phone calls in the last 40 dollars.

606
00:51:13,500 --> 00:51:14,700
I was just that tied up now.

607
00:51:18,260 --> 00:51:27,860
Now we'll have Mr. Derek Elyse, talking about it's an other gen item, number nine, I guess.

608
00:51:27,860 --> 00:51:28,040
Yes.

609
00:51:32,080 --> 00:51:32,700
Good evening.

610
00:51:33,280 --> 00:51:33,800
Good evening.

611
00:51:34,100 --> 00:51:37,500
And congratulations to all of you who were recently sworn in.

612
00:51:38,280 --> 00:51:41,520
Derek Elias, 233 Chiefs for Avenue, Quincy.

613
00:51:44,060 --> 00:51:47,440
If we always agree, we will never change.

614
00:51:48,860 --> 00:51:53,460
If we always agree, we will never grow.

615
00:51:54,500 --> 00:52:00,920
There's no expectation that you all are going to be one monolithic board having the same

616
00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:01,240
thoughts.

617
00:52:01,940 --> 00:52:14,120
We as citizens are going to disagree with you as well, but as some of you just took and some of you all previously took, you took an oath of office and you swore to uphold some things.

618
00:52:14,680 --> 00:52:21,300
As citizens, we're here to say to you we want you to uphold those things to make sure that this county progresses.

619
00:52:21,940 --> 00:52:25,280
I've heard this evening some things about trips for development.

620
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:28,040
Those trips for development are fine.

621
00:52:28,040 --> 00:52:36,260
If you all ever go back or come back and put some of those things into action, I can't

622
00:52:36,260 --> 00:52:40,660
think of one thing that has resulted in some of these expensive trips.

623
00:52:40,660 --> 00:52:43,140
They seem to be more like vacations.

624
00:52:43,920 --> 00:52:48,620
Now you all make somewhere in the neighborhood of $45,000 a year, but I don't think you all

625
00:52:48,620 --> 00:52:49,260
pay for those trips.

626
00:52:49,260 --> 00:52:51,980
I think we as taxpayers pay for those trips.

627
00:52:52,380 --> 00:52:55,900
I want to encourage you when you're going on these so-called economic development trips

628
00:52:55,900 --> 00:52:56,560
and other trips.

629
00:52:56,560 --> 00:53:01,080
Pay for the amount you're $45,000 salaries and not from the backs of citizens.

630
00:53:01,500 --> 00:53:07,000
And then we'll see if you all continue to go on these trips, and we'll also see if you all will come back and

631
00:53:07,000 --> 00:53:16,820
ever implement any of these things, because I certainly, for one, would be interested in seeing from this particular trip that people have been talking about when it's something going to be implemented.

632
00:53:17,300 --> 00:53:22,620
I would also wonder if that place that you all visited, and you're talking about how progressive they are.

633
00:53:22,620 --> 00:53:27,040
I wonder if their county administrator makes $140,000 a year.

634
00:53:27,300 --> 00:53:31,240
I heard you all several speakers mention the Bible,

635
00:53:31,500 --> 00:53:34,760
but also in the Bible somewhere in the book of Luke.

636
00:53:35,260 --> 00:53:38,240
It talks about to whom much is given, much is required.

637
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:43,480
If we're giving a county administrator $140,000 a year,

638
00:53:43,980 --> 00:53:48,640
I expect a whole lot, a whole lot, a lot more than what I've seen.

639
00:53:49,320 --> 00:53:50,360
That's a whole lot.

640
00:53:50,360 --> 00:53:58,240
But not too long ago, the board entered into a contract with a new attorney.

641
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:02,420
I came before you and I stood right here and I said to the attorney, oh, money is not

642
00:54:02,420 --> 00:54:02,880
good money.

643
00:54:03,380 --> 00:54:08,760
I said then that what was being done was not properly and order they done is my grandma

644
00:54:08,760 --> 00:54:12,340
Jay-Z-Bill used to say it's got to be done properly in order.

645
00:54:12,460 --> 00:54:16,120
It was legal and he reminded us that it was legal but it was not proper.

646
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:24,100
you had a commission coming in and it was not properly done and you all ended into an extensive

647
00:54:24,100 --> 00:54:29,100
contract unnecessarily and I think at some point in time you all are going to have to go back

648
00:54:29,100 --> 00:54:34,140
and address that. Another thing I brought up is that when I look at the agenda, it's read

649
00:54:34,140 --> 00:54:39,140
that you all as commissioners ever have anything on the agenda. It's always the consent agenda

650
00:54:39,140 --> 00:54:44,900
and then whatever the administrator wants to talk about. I would like for you all to actually

651
00:54:44,900 --> 00:54:50,480
agenda some things for you all to talk about on our behalf and not just wait on

652
00:54:50,480 --> 00:54:54,960
the administrator to establish the agenda. Yes I'm pretty sure everything

653
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:59,340
points to the fact that the administrator prepares the agenda but you all are

654
00:54:59,340 --> 00:54:59,780
responsible

655
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:17,480
So for telling him what you want on the agenda and we can get away from the consent agenda and the kind administrator's agenda, and you all get back to your agenda. Thank you very much. Thank you. All right, so all right.

656
00:55:27,550 --> 00:55:32,010
Our next we have a number ten public hearings,

657
00:55:34,340 --> 00:55:44,880
but Mr. Administrator, but before we say this, I want to make sure we're in line with our ordinance.

658
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:54,020
I didn't call you about that, we did, I said, by having, we received this within the last

659
00:55:54,020 --> 00:55:54,740
year for days.

660
00:55:55,120 --> 00:56:00,680
And I thought that the citizens got to have at least a week, not public hearings now.

661
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:03,920
All right.

662
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:08,800
You did call me and we talked about this issue, and if you recall, at the last meeting,

663
00:56:08,800 --> 00:56:16,220
you made a comment about whether a budget amendment should be a general business or public hearing.

664
00:56:16,680 --> 00:56:23,380
And so I reviewed the statute and discussed it with staff and basically the way it works is,

665
00:56:23,520 --> 00:56:28,720
you have three exceptions or five exceptions under the statute where you can do a budget amendment

666
00:56:28,720 --> 00:56:35,120
under general business, as long as it doesn't add or subtract from the budget that was approved by

667
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:40,660
the board. So this item is under public hearing because this is an addition based on some additional

668
00:56:40,660 --> 00:56:45,880
grants that will be provided to the board. So it's under general business. Also, I confirmed

669
00:56:46,400 --> 00:56:50,620
because I had the same concern that you did as to whether the notice was done properly.

670
00:56:51,380 --> 00:56:56,780
Notice has to be two to five days prior to. And I mean, Sarah's can come in, but I believe it was

671
00:56:56,780 --> 00:57:02,280
five days prior to the hearing. So it can apply with the statue. To the public here, right? Public

672
00:57:07,980 --> 00:57:15,240
I don't know if it's a local newspaper, the Democrat, but Ms. Harris can come in and talk

673
00:57:15,240 --> 00:57:15,780
about that.

674
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:17,840
Uh-huh.

675
00:57:20,270 --> 00:57:20,810
Todd's Democrat.

676
00:57:21,290 --> 00:57:21,570
Okay.

677
00:57:22,490 --> 00:57:25,870
And it's, it's, it's five days or two to five days.

678
00:57:26,290 --> 00:57:27,170
That's for Republicans.

679
00:57:27,470 --> 00:57:27,670
Correct.

680
00:57:27,670 --> 00:57:27,790
Correct.

681
00:57:28,970 --> 00:57:35,110
I know a regular meeting, I know a regular meeting two to five days, but I thought that public hearings had to be about seven, I wasn't sure at all.

682
00:57:36,450 --> 00:57:39,010
We looked at the statute with suitify days.

683
00:57:39,410 --> 00:57:41,950
And correct me, Sarah, it was two to five days, right?

684
00:57:42,170 --> 00:57:42,930
To be notified, right?

685
00:57:43,810 --> 00:57:44,370
I'm just curious.

686
00:57:44,990 --> 00:57:49,110
I took the hard your comments from the last meeting.

687
00:57:49,210 --> 00:57:49,410
Okay.

688
00:57:49,710 --> 00:57:55,890
And verified that it should be, this particular budget amendment should be a public hearing, not general business.

689
00:57:55,890 --> 00:58:02,310
But in the future, there may be meetings, excuse me, amendments that may be under general

690
00:58:03,510 --> 00:58:06,130
business because they will meet the statutory criteria.

691
00:58:07,850 --> 00:58:13,550
And the reason why this is such, not, they don't give me, it's been a heartburns because it

692
00:58:13,550 --> 00:58:18,290
doesn't affect the budget, these. I think Ms. Harris and she'll come and talk to you about it,

693
00:58:18,430 --> 00:58:22,670
can give you more detail about that. But from a legal standpoint, it's legally

694
00:58:24,710 --> 00:58:26,110
That's the effect of the budget, though.

695
00:58:26,830 --> 00:58:29,450
I believe that's some additions to the budget for understanding correctly.

696
00:58:29,690 --> 00:58:31,230
Some grant funds that are going to be added.

697
00:58:32,010 --> 00:58:35,210
But again, Ms. Harris can come in and provide additional information about that.

698
00:58:36,870 --> 00:58:40,730
Okay, Ms. Harris, we feel like you're going to sign them up.

699
00:58:47,480 --> 00:58:50,060
Well, I tell you, we can just wait it out.

700
00:58:50,760 --> 00:58:56,860
It's okay, we can go and get it started with, yes, we'll let the minister go ahead and

701
00:58:58,380 --> 00:58:59,540
Mr. Chairman,

702
00:59:02,560 --> 00:59:21,600
this item is presented for Board Approval, just a resolution 2024-3038 for authorization from the administrator and the finance director to complete and execute all budget amendments necessary to maintain a balanced budget.

703
00:59:21,600 --> 00:59:31,540
The attached items are to adjust budgets for various funds and projects or to adjust budgets due to a change in the grants or the general funds.

704
00:59:32,180 --> 00:59:43,340
The attached budgets amendments listed on the administrative are required to be advertised as they relate to internal fund transfers, donations are grants.

705
00:59:44,420 --> 00:59:49,900
The recommendation is to approve resolution 2024-038, Mr. Chairman.

706
00:59:53,130 --> 00:59:56,630
Okay, all right, we have a motion, I mean, we have recommendation to have a motion.

707
00:59:56,750 --> 00:59:59,550
On the first of all, we have to get the audience to talk about it first because.

708
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,060
We got a public hearing. Normally, before the board talks, we got to have the audience.

709
01:00:07,120 --> 01:00:16,160
Do you all wish anyone in audience wish to speak on this agenda item here? They just had a lot of works there. Yes, okay, cool.

710
01:00:19,380 --> 01:00:30,520
Thank you, Mr. Chairman. If you could just briefly just let us know exactly what it is that you're all attempting to do. That was certainly help. Thank you. Mr. Cannon, Mr. King. Mr. Chairman, this is the general will.

711
01:00:32,500 --> 01:01:00,400
There's a lap grant to build the sidewalk on Adam Street from what we know as the old jail, all the way up to the school district to add a sidewalk, and I think to widen that road a little bit for a million, $46,000 there's a budget amendment to set up the grant for the Sheriff's Deputy Salaries.

712
01:01:00,400 --> 01:01:09,920
In the amount of $657,000 in change, there are library donations approximately $6,000.

713
01:01:10,700 --> 01:01:17,820
There's also an emergency preparedness assistance grant for $119,000 additional.

714
01:01:18,640 --> 01:01:26,480
There's a budget fund to set up to purchase new ambulances, debt service in the amount of $368,000.

715
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:36,480
And there's a transfer from fund one in the amount of $374,000, Mr. Chairman.

716
01:01:39,020 --> 01:01:39,180
All right,

717
01:01:43,230 --> 01:01:44,430
Commissioner Simkins.

718
01:01:45,250 --> 01:01:54,470
Mr. Administrator, just for the public's knowledge, could you kind of smell fund one and then fund one forty two, so get them.

719
01:01:54,470 --> 01:02:06,030
Because this is the set up the fund, Jan correct, for the ambulances to set up the fund to move the money for the new ambulances.

720
01:02:06,750 --> 01:02:11,310
We are on a schedule to purchase new ambulances, as you know, there was a time we weren't actually

721
01:02:12,030 --> 01:02:17,990
ran out of ambulances because two of them were wrecked and then we had mechanical difficulties with others.

722
01:02:18,230 --> 01:02:22,810
So now we're on a schedule to replace those ambulances on a regular basis.

723
01:02:22,810 --> 01:02:25,110
and this sets up the fund.

724
01:02:27,570 --> 01:02:28,690
That's the last one?

725
01:02:28,910 --> 01:02:29,670
That's the last one.

726
01:02:31,450 --> 01:02:35,730
Is this the last meeting that we're allowed to do this for the budget?

727
01:02:36,450 --> 01:02:39,670
No, sir, we may, Mr. Chairman, I'm sorry, I don't know.

728
01:02:39,690 --> 01:02:44,090
Yes, sir, good, but you may approve the budget as money comes in.

729
01:02:45,250 --> 01:02:51,910
A lot of these are new monies and or changes to the budget and you may do it every meeting.

730
01:02:56,080 --> 01:03:01,740
I'm not sure your budget will I first speak to as well?

731
01:03:02,820 --> 01:03:03,560
There's a question.

732
01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:08,720
I think she's coming to do clarification on.

733
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:13,760
You still got a flow of commission.

734
01:03:14,380 --> 01:03:17,660
No, I think she knows what I'm, yeah, she's about to address it.

735
01:03:17,880 --> 01:03:18,240
Yeah, right.

736
01:03:18,820 --> 01:03:24,760
The budget amendment before you, this is the last meeting that we can approve these.

737
01:03:24,760 --> 01:03:28,120
but you will have budget amendment, put it on down a little bit more.

738
01:03:29,720 --> 01:03:35,820
But you will have budget amendments that come to the floor throughout the year that you will have to prove it.

739
01:03:35,980 --> 01:03:41,000
This particular one is for fiscal year 2024, and they have to close out.

740
01:03:41,380 --> 01:03:45,160
This is really coming from the clerk's office, the finance director.

741
01:03:56,030 --> 01:03:57,110
Who's, I'll go there.

742
01:03:57,550 --> 01:04:02,690
No, I was about to say that normally these are online, so you can pull them up.

743
01:04:02,690 --> 01:04:05,270
You can just go to gas and count it to the website.

744
01:04:06,130 --> 01:04:13,710
Commission and all of this stuff is on lines that you can click on it, if there's anything you need to want to preview ahead of time, any of these items.

745
01:04:13,890 --> 01:04:18,810
Also the commissioners, the procedure has been since I've been here, that you call it.

746
01:04:18,850 --> 01:04:22,550
You sit down with the administrator no matter who that is, or maybe.

747
01:04:23,150 --> 01:04:30,810
And you sit down with that individual, you go over as a county commissioner, you go over the budget, I mean the items with them on the agenda.

748
01:04:30,810 --> 01:04:36,130
So that way, if you have questions that will give them the staff an opportunity to bring

749
01:04:36,130 --> 01:04:41,670
back some answers to you, but for the citizens, you can pull these up online, you can click

750
01:04:41,670 --> 01:04:42,730
on them and look at it.

751
01:04:43,110 --> 01:04:46,630
At the budget, you'll see just what we have in this book, okay?

752
01:04:47,030 --> 01:04:47,490
Thank you.

753
01:04:48,130 --> 01:04:48,950
Thank you very much.

754
01:04:49,390 --> 01:04:55,050
Also, too, if we can, let Ms. Thomas say earlier, we're going to be very careful how we speak,

755
01:04:55,650 --> 01:04:59,150
because we are all citizens, we are all grown, we got family members and audience.

756
01:04:59,150 --> 01:04:59,970
I'll see you guys next time.

757
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:29,560
Let's try not to throw in your windows out because now we're going to happen to someone else going to say, I got to say, because you have the right to say something because you don't want your constituent to say anything. So we can't, let's try to, because when I was a chairman, we had quick meetings, leave it or not, of all people saying it, right? But because, really, that's what I'm talking about, because I understand that I appreciate everything. You say, where everybody who talked earlier, I evaluate everything everybody said.

758
01:05:29,560 --> 01:05:33,000
I don't have no offense with anything, because you have to respect everybody.

759
01:05:33,140 --> 01:05:35,700
Everybody come from a different level, you have to still respect them.

760
01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:40,560
So on this board, let's not throw in you windows at people, let's be positive.

761
01:05:44,300 --> 01:05:47,940
And so we can move forward and we can love each other.

762
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:52,560
Mr. Green, I know you, you wish to say the thing for-

763
01:05:52,560 --> 01:05:53,940
You're fine, Kerry, I want to thank you.

764
01:05:54,080 --> 01:05:55,320
Yes, sir, and I thank you, too, as well.

765
01:05:55,740 --> 01:05:56,980
Do we have a motion on this floor?

766
01:05:56,980 --> 01:05:57,800
Move the program.

767
01:05:58,280 --> 01:05:58,540
Second.

768
01:05:58,840 --> 01:05:59,840
The motion is second.

769
01:06:00,220 --> 01:06:00,840
All the papers are.

770
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:01,760
Aye.

771
01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:03,300
And one oppose.

772
01:06:04,400 --> 01:06:04,760
All right.

773
01:06:04,980 --> 01:06:05,340
It's approved.

774
01:06:07,380 --> 01:06:08,560
Thank you very much.

775
01:06:09,020 --> 01:06:10,820
Mr. Chairman, we had general business.

776
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:12,240
General business, nothing they wrote.

777
01:06:12,600 --> 01:06:13,680
Item 11A.

778
01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:14,240
Yes, sir.

779
01:06:14,720 --> 01:06:14,900
Oh.

780
01:06:16,600 --> 01:06:22,080
We're returning the motion on the love, the first one, I missed it.

781
01:06:22,420 --> 01:06:23,020
We're not there yet.

782
01:06:23,240 --> 01:06:23,700
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

783
01:06:23,780 --> 01:06:24,320
We're not there yet.

784
01:06:25,900 --> 01:06:26,580
Mr. Chairman.

785
01:06:26,580 --> 01:06:32,380
The board seeks approval to renew, this item seeks your approval.

786
01:06:32,540 --> 01:06:37,300
I'm sorry to renew the silent waste franchise agreement with WastePro and

787
01:06:37,300 --> 01:06:44,800
authorize the chairman to sign it on December 1, 2009.

788
01:06:44,800 --> 01:06:49,880
The board awarded a five year franchise agreement to WastePro of Florida for

789
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:52,600
collection and disposal of waste within Gaston County.

790
01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:56,460
The agreement was approved after the competitive bid was solicited.

791
01:06:56,800 --> 01:07:04,060
The five year term of the agreement was from January 1, 2010, through December 31, 2014.

792
01:07:04,720 --> 01:07:10,360
The agreement has had an automatic or renewal clause for five year periods.

793
01:07:11,360 --> 01:07:21,940
On November 18, this agreement was renewed for another five years, and through December 2019, the agreement was subsequently renewed.

794
01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:27,840
for another five years ending December 31st, 2024.

795
01:07:28,840 --> 01:07:39,520
We have met with WastePro over the last six months and talked about this, this agreement.

796
01:07:40,420 --> 01:07:46,040
The county has been receiving a 10% franchise fee from WastePro.

797
01:07:47,000 --> 01:07:49,460
This renewal has additional terms and conditions.

798
01:07:50,580 --> 01:07:58,920
Waste Pro has agreed to provide curbs out assistance in greater dimension to the senior citizens that cannot bring there.

799
01:07:59,560 --> 01:08:09,940
Waste containers to the curb, additionally Waste Pro will notify the county if there is a change of schedule and will discuss the changes with the county prior to implementation.

800
01:08:10,660 --> 01:08:28,820
This agreement speaks to a 7% increase over the next five years, as Wastepro has demonstrated that the CPI has not kept up with the growth of the automatic grower in the contract, has not kept up and they are experiencing increased cost.

801
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:35,280
3.5% for the first year and 3.5% for the second year.

802
01:08:36,320 --> 01:08:46,160
Lastly, Waste Pro has agreed to create a bigger presence in our county as we spoke to them.

803
01:08:47,000 --> 01:08:57,880
One of the things that commissioners recall is we had some problems with commercial entities receiving adequate service on a timely basis.

804
01:08:58,580 --> 01:09:01,380
We've discussed that in depth with Waste Crow.

805
01:09:02,140 --> 01:09:04,560
They were having staff and shortages themselves.

806
01:09:04,560 --> 01:09:07,780
That was right after COVID and so on.

807
01:09:07,800 --> 01:09:14,180
And we've discussed that long and a long way with them

808
01:09:14,840 --> 01:09:19,080
to make sure that we did not experience those kinds of things again.

809
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:22,020
And if we did, if they were experiencing those things

810
01:09:22,020 --> 01:09:26,220
that we would be notified in order to deal with residents

811
01:09:26,220 --> 01:09:32,140
and their commercial vendors who will call us and not necessarily waste pro.

812
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:39,520
So we have this before you, the attorney was involved in this, trying to help bring it home.

813
01:09:40,620 --> 01:09:44,840
And so if he has any comments to make, Mr. Chairman, see what we recognize.

814
01:09:45,040 --> 01:09:54,440
Mr. Chair and commissioners, there are a couple other things that we added, the way this agreement, this is a franchise agreement.

815
01:09:54,440 --> 01:09:59,520
and so basically WagePro has an exclusive contract for providing.

816
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:13,940
A waste collection services for the county. As the administrator stated, this agreement has been in place since 2010, and it's written every five years. We had an automatic renewal provision in the agreement.

817
01:10:30,020 --> 01:10:40,540
franchise agreement to be active at the end of each five year period, there has to be ability to have discussions about what's relevant as a relation to the agreement.

818
01:10:41,180 --> 01:10:54,620
So we agreed to eliminate the automatic renewal provision for the waste pro agreement and it will terminate at the end of each five year period subject to renewal, which will allow both sides to negotiate out terms.

819
01:10:54,620 --> 01:11:03,860
We had a provision that also stated that if we were to get to the end of the term, and for some reason that it was not negotiated out,

820
01:11:04,420 --> 01:11:14,520
Wachepro agreed that the agreement does not terminate, but we have 180 days to complete any negotiations for the next renewal if it's so desired.

821
01:11:15,260 --> 01:11:17,720
So those are some additional provisions that we put in.

822
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:32,680
I wanted to ask, and I have forgotten his name just that fast, was Mr.

823
01:11:34,790 --> 01:11:35,310
Children.

824
01:11:35,550 --> 01:11:36,650
Mr. Children.

825
01:11:39,620 --> 01:11:41,960
A couple questions for you, please.

826
01:11:42,740 --> 01:11:43,300
Yes, sir.

827
01:11:50,970 --> 01:11:51,410
All right.

828
01:11:51,610 --> 01:11:53,270
That's your name and address for the record, too.

829
01:11:53,270 --> 01:11:56,630
Boyd, children, 1536, fine tip.

830
01:12:03,620 --> 01:12:17,940
Looking at the B and doing a comparison when they're taking a look at Lear Counties, B and Gaston, could you tell us why the difference in?

831
01:12:18,680 --> 01:12:21,780
Services really geared towards density.

832
01:12:22,380 --> 01:12:34,840
When you have an environment like the city of Tallahassee where you have more density it's a it's a stop start stop start stop start you can get more work done per hour which reduces the rate that we have to require.

833
01:12:35,780 --> 01:12:43,620
Then the rate jumps from Tallahassee's rate to Leon County's rate because it's a little more spread out even though it still has considerable density.

834
01:12:44,120 --> 01:12:49,440
We move out into the more rural communities and then that density is not there anymore.

835
01:12:49,440 --> 01:12:56,280
There are times where we can drive a mile before we get to the next home, to service, or

836
01:12:56,280 --> 01:12:58,500
the next commercial business to service.

837
01:12:59,000 --> 01:13:01,100
So it's a matter of density and travel time.

838
01:13:01,800 --> 01:13:01,920
Okay.

839
01:13:02,640 --> 01:13:07,500
And for our citizens, when we're talking about, no, we have the percentage here.

840
01:13:07,560 --> 01:13:09,940
But what does that look like for them?

841
01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:11,680
So that's an additional.

842
01:13:12,180 --> 01:13:18,400
So what you're looking at, because it's broken up into two different rate increases.

843
01:13:18,400 --> 01:13:23,920
is you're looking at approximately $0.89 for the first increase.

844
01:13:24,900 --> 01:13:25,340
Okay.

845
01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:26,540
Did you say $0.89?

846
01:13:26,540 --> 01:13:27,100
I'm sorry.

847
01:13:27,720 --> 01:13:29,460
I believe that's $0.89 here.

848
01:13:30,040 --> 01:13:30,400
I wasn't.

849
01:13:31,340 --> 01:13:36,160
I think it's $1.77, if I remember correctly, for the first increase.

850
01:13:37,280 --> 01:13:45,980
When you include the CPI, but what we're talking about, I believe, is the 3.5 is $0.89.

851
01:13:46,660 --> 01:13:46,840
Okay.

852
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:51,500
Okay, so with the CPI, we'll be looking at the dollar in.

853
01:13:51,980 --> 01:13:56,940
Yeah, at the CPI, we don't know where the CPI will land yet.

854
01:13:58,160 --> 01:14:10,900
The way the contract reads, it's the trailing 12 and you draw an average from the 12 trailing 12 on the CPI, so we won't have that number until the end of the year.

855
01:14:11,700 --> 01:14:11,920
Okay.

856
01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:19,400
Now, right now, it's at about 2.52%, it could go up or it could go down, but not significantly.

857
01:14:21,340 --> 01:14:29,220
And I'm going to ask again, I see it says at least, which is good,

858
01:14:32,220 --> 01:14:35,760
a corporate presence in the county to support county activities.

859
01:14:36,400 --> 01:14:43,300
With at least 15, I'm going to ask again, at least 20.

860
01:14:43,300 --> 01:14:52,080
And I don't have that authority, but you ask the question, I'll bring it to the correct people.

861
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:54,380
I appreciate that.

862
01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:55,080
Yes, ma'am.

863
01:14:55,280 --> 01:14:55,460
All right.

864
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:56,220
Thank you.

865
01:14:56,760 --> 01:14:57,520
Commissioner Green.

866
01:14:58,080 --> 01:14:58,620
Thank you.

867
01:14:58,620 --> 01:14:59,840
I gotta start looking to turn left.

868
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:29,300
Yes, right. It's okay. I apologize. No problem. You find. My question was going to actually be about the incentives as well as a relates to giving back to the community. And I think that is something that we need to place emphasis on a lot of our vendors and contractors with the county. But my question is, how many other options? I know it's very limited people who does, who do this, but how many other bids were there or were there any other interested companies that were

869
01:15:29,300 --> 01:15:35,540
available or that will serve as this county, Mr. Dixon.

870
01:15:35,880 --> 01:15:36,820
Yes, yes, sir.

871
01:15:37,180 --> 01:15:38,200
Yes, appreciate it.

872
01:15:38,200 --> 01:15:38,460
Thank you.

873
01:15:38,620 --> 01:15:38,720
Sorry.

874
01:15:40,040 --> 01:15:48,140
Commissioner, we looked at going for RFP or an invitation to be it.

875
01:15:48,610 --> 01:15:55,840
We monitored for the last year the Leon County situation and a couple other situations around.

876
01:15:55,840 --> 01:16:05,200
Now, the Leon County situation, which we all know is a much more prosperous market than ours came in.

877
01:16:06,180 --> 01:16:11,620
I think $7 more than they did in waste flows of low bidder.

878
01:16:12,120 --> 01:16:15,640
Everyone else were many, many dollars ahead.

879
01:16:17,220 --> 01:16:21,800
And they entered, as they went through their process,

880
01:16:21,800 --> 01:16:26,620
because they realized that their contract was probably the best contract that they were

881
01:16:26,620 --> 01:16:34,720
going to get understanding this is a multi-million dollar operation and that if the next closest

882
01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:37,120
bids were at least ten dollars more.

883
01:16:38,360 --> 01:16:46,040
And so we felt that gave us an opportunity to go and negotiate as opposed to going out to

884
01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:46,360
be it.

885
01:16:46,360 --> 01:16:54,540
We had a rollover, but we think we were able to get in as cheaply as we possibly could have hope to.

886
01:16:54,920 --> 01:16:58,580
I think we on county experience a 15% increase.

887
01:16:59,580 --> 01:17:04,780
So we were monitoring folk around us, and we thought this was the best opportunity.

888
01:17:05,980 --> 01:17:06,280
Sure.

889
01:17:07,320 --> 01:17:07,580
Yes, sir.

890
01:17:08,000 --> 01:17:14,640
If I can add on what the administrator said, we did do some verification on what the increases were.

891
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:20,620
If this contract was put out to bid and I was hearing from 15% to 20%.

892
01:17:21,380 --> 01:17:26,500
Even with that, the request was 7% for One Year and

893
01:17:26,500 --> 01:17:31,020
we were able to, to an illustrator now able to negotiate out 3.5 for

894
01:17:31,020 --> 01:17:37,820
the first year and then 3.5 for the second year, so we didn't do a 7% increase in One Year.

895
01:17:41,780 --> 01:17:42,780
Which day requests?

896
01:17:47,940 --> 01:17:51,920
Mr. Chair, what is the address of your business?

897
01:17:53,950 --> 01:17:55,970
Mr. Chair, you come up here, I'm sorry about that.

898
01:17:57,050 --> 01:18:00,890
Is that 264 Commerce Lane, Midway?

899
01:18:02,610 --> 01:18:04,490
So you're a gas and county business?

900
01:18:04,830 --> 01:18:05,410
Yes, sir, we are.

901
01:18:05,830 --> 01:18:07,390
You know what I like the most about y'all?

902
01:18:07,690 --> 01:18:08,330
What's that, sir?

903
01:18:08,590 --> 01:18:12,270
Every time the truck rides by, somebody hollers, hey, major wood.

904
01:18:13,690 --> 01:18:17,090
And what it tells me is there's a lot of our locals.

905
01:18:17,090 --> 01:18:18,710
the work for y'all.

906
01:18:20,370 --> 01:18:25,490
Gatson County probably supports us from the employees standpoint by about 60%.

907
01:18:25,960 --> 01:18:27,350
Keep up that good work.

908
01:18:28,170 --> 01:18:35,010
And also we have a program where we meet with local law enforcement directions.

909
01:18:35,830 --> 01:18:42,510
And if there's an opportunity for second chance citizen that needs a job, they can start on our trucks.

910
01:18:42,510 --> 01:18:47,970
They have to be certain criteria, but we're proud of that fact.

911
01:18:48,230 --> 01:18:49,750
Colonel Barclay is sitting in the back.

912
01:18:50,790 --> 01:18:55,330
And so, when you leave, if y'all can, he may already know our folks.

913
01:18:55,570 --> 01:18:58,750
Keep giving us jobs, thank you, sir.

914
01:18:59,350 --> 01:19:00,950
I wanted to have a question for you.

915
01:19:01,070 --> 01:19:03,130
Yes, Commissioner Hope, then turn after that.

916
01:19:03,350 --> 01:19:04,410
Okay, thank you.

917
01:19:04,930 --> 01:19:07,350
Do you guys, do you need large item pickups?

918
01:19:08,310 --> 01:19:10,670
Well, you're referring to bulk item pickups.

919
01:19:10,670 --> 01:19:27,250
There is a bulk item pick-up provision in the contract, I believe it's once a month, and you'd have to call that end, and we would come out and pick it up, that bulk item could consist of anything from white goods to, you know, couch chairs, stuff like that for an injury.

920
01:19:27,250 --> 01:19:34,190
So the citizen would have to have, have you already picking up their, do they have to be a sign on?

921
01:19:34,730 --> 01:19:39,450
They would have to be, it would have to have service already yes.

922
01:19:39,750 --> 01:19:41,530
Okay, all right, thank you.

923
01:19:41,730 --> 01:19:42,170
Yes, ma'am.

924
01:19:42,770 --> 01:19:48,890
Mr. Chair and commissioners, there was one amendment that we needed to make to the agreement.

925
01:19:49,810 --> 01:19:56,230
Mr. Children and I were trying to, when we look at this contract to figure out what the county would

926
01:19:56,230 --> 01:19:59,810
the need over the five year period and talk with them.

927
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:29,880
We did put in the helping hands, which allows the elderly citizens to get free service. And so we got that in. We also added Section 5.5, which is a premium collection services, so individuals could pay for that. But we wanted to negotiate out terms on that, but we couldn't get the terms negotiated out. So we need to delete that item, Section 5.5. So when you get your motion, we ask that you approve the

928
01:20:29,880 --> 01:20:38,820
the agreement with the exclusion of Section 5.5, and also authorize any modification based on script news errors.

929
01:20:40,820 --> 01:20:45,160
Also, too, before we get into that, it's not even good.

930
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:51,480
Yeah, those those was two concerns that I had and I talked to attorney about that.

931
01:20:51,620 --> 01:20:58,360
I'm glad he said he was able to negotiate with the role side assistance because he had a lot of seniors calling me about that.

932
01:20:58,360 --> 01:21:00,360
I'm glad I was able to look into that.

933
01:21:01,780 --> 01:21:08,980
Also, another one was the bucket, Adam Pickup, yes, with Commissioner Ho state earlier.

934
01:21:10,260 --> 01:21:14,740
Do y'all pick up certain things because I was told that y'all are going to pick up one or two things.

935
01:21:15,200 --> 01:21:21,680
You see, we've got a set of things, you've got a bed out there, it has a dresser, a drawer, and a stool or whatever.

936
01:21:22,120 --> 01:21:25,900
Y'all are going to come pick up one thing, and that's still a part of the print, right?

937
01:21:26,600 --> 01:21:44,740
It's based on volume now what we try to do because if we're running once a month and you have several homes out there that may need service, we can't pick up a whole house move out and then take away from the service from everyone else down the road.

938
01:21:44,740 --> 01:21:50,120
So we have to be just, you know, discriminant, whatever the word is, and what we pick up.

939
01:21:50,620 --> 01:21:58,500
So if we look at what we've got going for that week, and there are several homes that have bulk pick up,

940
01:21:59,680 --> 01:22:02,780
if we follow the rules of the contract, it's a very small amount.

941
01:22:03,100 --> 01:22:06,240
Typically we'll pick up two to three times that amount, we pick up.

942
01:22:06,500 --> 01:22:12,620
But if it's an extreme amount, we can only pick up what we can in order to serve us to look at the customer down the road.

943
01:22:13,420 --> 01:22:19,220
because that was that was some of what people had hard burns where could they they made a phone call they got

944
01:22:19,220 --> 01:22:25,780
the great kids to put everything outside not maybe a couch and I'm dead in the stew and

945
01:22:26,480 --> 01:22:33,180
they just came pick up one item and so I think that that's that was that was some of the concerns that

946
01:22:33,180 --> 01:22:39,740
we had and I think that that part we need to address that to as well before we sign it for five years

947
01:22:39,740 --> 01:22:44,500
something because we are a rural area and we are aging community and we're just trying

948
01:22:44,500 --> 01:22:48,040
that's those are two concerns I'm glad we create the one that we go and talk to

949
01:22:48,640 --> 01:22:52,780
well addressed to senior citizens if they need someone to pick up their stuff y'all

950
01:22:52,780 --> 01:22:56,720
glad y'all address that issue I really appreciate matter fair I got a I'm going to disclose I

951
01:22:56,720 --> 01:23:02,100
had a great relationship with each protee I mean like you said you're you're a staff major

952
01:23:02,840 --> 01:23:08,080
their staff is impeccable I gave him some peaking I got a peek on to you I gave him a whole

953
01:23:08,080 --> 01:23:10,180
People think, well, I go to Strawberry Fests,

954
01:23:10,280 --> 01:23:13,040
I bring Strawberry and Jaws, some great people.

955
01:23:13,400 --> 01:23:17,120
So I have a great relationship with everybody, including your vice president.

956
01:23:17,860 --> 01:23:21,360
Yes, thank you, as everyone on this board knows.

957
01:23:21,960 --> 01:23:27,120
I'm in favor of people taking their stuff to the dump, because it makes your property look real bad.

958
01:23:27,680 --> 01:23:34,220
Put those items right there and they sit, and it almost devalues your property by having people come by.

959
01:23:34,220 --> 01:23:39,580
And so if you can, take that to the dump and that way it wouldn't be a problem.

960
01:23:39,920 --> 01:23:44,840
We have that enough for seniors, I'm happy about that because they do need help with

961
01:23:44,840 --> 01:23:45,160
that.

962
01:23:45,320 --> 01:23:49,220
When I just think if we're younger and we're out working and we're doing those things

963
01:23:49,220 --> 01:23:51,900
that we can go and take care of some of that.

964
01:23:52,280 --> 01:23:56,520
So if the gentleman has to pick up something for the senior citizen, you got 15 other houses

965
01:23:56,520 --> 01:24:01,460
where they're able to take this stuff to the land field, take it and don't leave them

966
01:24:01,460 --> 01:24:08,240
fun of your house in order for animals to be all on it and also for the rain on it and things

967
01:24:08,240 --> 01:24:14,440
like that that happen, devalues your property. But thank you so much. And I think it's a very

968
01:24:14,440 --> 01:24:21,660
good idea because you've negotiated in some good items when we look through it. And I think we

969
01:24:21,660 --> 01:24:28,240
should go ahead and improve it with those increases. I mean, and with the numbers that we have,

970
01:24:28,240 --> 01:24:31,240
I've got a number's good, but all right, thank you.

971
01:24:31,460 --> 01:24:34,320
Commissioner, I will let you know right now

972
01:24:34,320 --> 01:24:38,320
that I'll put it on my agenda to speak with our senior vice

973
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:41,400
president about the bulk issues that you're experiencing.

974
01:24:42,520 --> 01:24:45,240
And I will address that internally.

975
01:24:45,720 --> 01:24:48,440
That's a decision that we can make locally.

976
01:24:49,100 --> 01:24:49,180
Right.

977
01:24:49,420 --> 01:24:53,340
So that's just seeing since the elder didn't have the answer.

978
01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:55,240
You know, it's going to help him as much as you can.

979
01:24:55,360 --> 01:24:56,860
The reason I brought that up though,

980
01:24:56,860 --> 01:24:59,600
I did not bring it up for everybody to leave the stuff out by the road.

981
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:29,560
That's what I'm saying. If it's a need, then they need to do it, but we don't need even, we're picking up now. Some people just put stuff out their own. They leave it there for weeks and stuff like that. And it's unheard of. We're trying to encourage businesses to come. And I give you a good example. I'm going to stop talking on this. I brought two business people down. I was trying to talk to the school board about St. John School. There were two businesses that were looking for storage. And we discussed that, but the school board decided to sell it to an individual.

982
01:25:29,560 --> 01:25:36,200
to a church. They thought it was great for their businesses, but then they noticed some

983
01:25:36,200 --> 01:25:40,940
things about highway on 2 CC 7. And one of them asked me, he said, why is that stuff

984
01:25:40,940 --> 01:25:46,720
about a road? And I told him, he said, well, that shouldn't be. That doesn't look good

985
01:25:46,720 --> 01:25:51,520
for the county, because you got to think for a beautification, but you have a mattress

986
01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:56,840
out by the highway. And I told him, I said, yeah, tell me what you really think, because that's

987
01:25:56,840 --> 01:26:02,300
That's what he was doing, and it makes sense to see what people on the outside think about us when they're looking at.

988
01:26:02,860 --> 01:26:04,500
But that was the reason I asked, thank you.

989
01:26:04,740 --> 01:26:05,500
Yes, ma'am.

990
01:26:08,660 --> 01:26:10,420
Mr. Green, thank you.

991
01:26:11,120 --> 01:26:22,600
I don't think that the conversation that was just had it had any reflection on the services provided from waste for, I think, is more the program that we have as it relates to the book.

992
01:26:26,980 --> 01:26:28,900
I think that's the only way to

993
01:26:28,900 --> 01:26:30,840
identify that issue is not only what

994
01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:32,520
happens is people will call to say

995
01:26:32,520 --> 01:26:34,240
especially in my district that they

996
01:26:34,240 --> 01:26:36,300
have certain items out there and

997
01:26:36,300 --> 01:26:37,420
I will just make the call to

998
01:26:37,420 --> 01:26:38,660
management and they'll make the

999
01:26:38,660 --> 01:26:39,460
call to make sure that those

1000
01:26:39,460 --> 01:26:40,780
items are going to get picked up

1001
01:26:40,780 --> 01:26:42,240
during that week of book.

1002
01:26:42,420 --> 01:26:44,340
Bokey out and pick up so I don't

1003
01:26:44,340 --> 01:26:46,140
think that that conversation was

1004
01:26:46,140 --> 01:26:47,940
really referring to the statements

1005
01:26:47,940 --> 01:26:49,720
was referring to the ways for

1006
01:26:49,720 --> 01:26:51,720
a country although it's good to know

1007
01:26:51,720 --> 01:26:54,480
that you are offering that services per month.

1008
01:26:55,520 --> 01:26:57,120
So, and maybe I missed that.

1009
01:26:57,300 --> 01:26:59,060
How can they car you or the day

1010
01:26:59,060 --> 01:27:00,260
that you're gonna set aside?

1011
01:27:01,320 --> 01:27:03,160
And once a month, I don't have that.

1012
01:27:03,160 --> 01:27:04,100
I don't have that.

1013
01:27:04,180 --> 01:27:05,440
It will be good to get that schedule

1014
01:27:05,440 --> 01:27:07,680
so that we can inform our citizens

1015
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:09,620
and the process and the way

1016
01:27:09,620 --> 01:27:11,460
that you're going to do that program.

1017
01:27:11,460 --> 01:27:15,520
So, we'll know how to go with it.

1018
01:27:15,820 --> 01:27:16,220
Thank you.

1019
01:27:16,480 --> 01:27:18,240
We'll get that to the county administrator.

1020
01:27:20,140 --> 01:27:22,940
Yes, before we get into them, just clarify something quick.

1021
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:29,280
My statement was going directly to waste product by the bulk of items, all fairness.

1022
01:27:30,000 --> 01:27:33,160
Because you know, a lot of them live, someone live in the city, I know they've got different

1023
01:27:33,160 --> 01:27:38,240
contracts, but I always tell them that if your city may be, I have a different contract

1024
01:27:38,240 --> 01:27:38,840
in the county.

1025
01:27:39,120 --> 01:27:43,960
So, but my statement is what do you guys, but again, you guys always been accessible for

1026
01:27:43,960 --> 01:27:50,360
me in the community, also for the employee just in PEP, but to as well.

1027
01:27:51,520 --> 01:27:54,060
Commissioner Simpkins, are you an echo?

1028
01:27:54,080 --> 01:27:55,040
Oh, you can.

1029
01:27:55,060 --> 01:27:55,200
Yeah.

1030
01:27:55,580 --> 01:27:55,840
Same thing.

1031
01:27:56,240 --> 01:27:56,380
Okay.

1032
01:27:57,020 --> 01:27:57,940
Thank you again.

1033
01:27:58,360 --> 01:27:58,720
Thank you, sir.

1034
01:28:00,140 --> 01:28:02,120
Now, do we have a motion on the floor now?

1035
01:28:02,140 --> 01:28:02,600
Move approval.

1036
01:28:02,840 --> 01:28:03,440
Governor, aye.

1037
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:04,840
With the exception.

1038
01:28:05,240 --> 01:28:06,100
With the amendments.

1039
01:28:06,620 --> 01:28:13,800
Yeah, I was going to say, move approval with the deletion of Section 5.5 and authorize

1040
01:28:14,780 --> 01:28:16,860
any exception for a script of the years.

1041
01:28:19,190 --> 01:28:20,090
All right, I'll second that.

1042
01:28:21,470 --> 01:28:24,990
Okay, we've got a motion in second, all in favor say aye.

1043
01:28:25,070 --> 01:28:25,350
Aye.

1044
01:28:25,710 --> 01:28:29,270
With all those corrections, and one of the polls said nay.

1045
01:28:29,870 --> 01:28:31,030
All right, five will vote.

1046
01:28:31,850 --> 01:28:37,930
All right, so here we are now with the approval of the city of Gritnell.

1047
01:28:38,450 --> 01:28:42,470
Loves, Travis Sino, Mr. Dixon.

1048
01:28:42,470 --> 01:28:48,650
Mr. Chairman, this item seeks your approval, seeks

1049
01:28:57,130 --> 01:29:15,390
your approval of an interlocal agreement for the ownership transfer of an unimproved roadway known as Clifford Johnson Road, owned by Gaston County and execution of a proposed right-of-way deed in unimproved, excuse me, roadway to the city of Gretna.

1050
01:29:15,390 --> 01:29:21,530
As you all know, the city came before the board requesting this agreement.

1051
01:29:21,530 --> 01:29:28,190
We've had extensive conversation with the city, and moving toward this, we've even had a survey done.

1052
01:29:28,810 --> 01:29:32,070
And it is now before you for approval.

1053
01:29:32,570 --> 01:29:34,770
If the attorney has anything else, Mr. Chairman.

1054
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:42,480
Mr. Chair, Chair and commissioners, administrative is correct.

1055
01:29:42,480 --> 01:29:53,200
We had extensive conversations with the city of Gretner, I see Mr. Nose in the audience and he and I discussed this and I believe that he's in concurrence with what we've done here.

1056
01:29:53,980 --> 01:29:58,160
So are there any questions from the city of Gretner? I think he's here to answer any questions.

1057
01:29:58,160 --> 01:29:59,120
Yeah.

1058
01:29:59,120 --> 01:29:59,320
Yeah.

1059
01:30:00,780 --> 01:30:17,380
Yes, I want to, I'm sorry, I was going to go and put it in. Yeah, it's not a, I was going to go and put it in a motion for approval, because all they needed was a letter. And one technical change. Go ahead, sorry.

1060
01:30:17,380 --> 01:30:17,440
Okay.

1061
01:30:21,560 --> 01:30:22,700
Yes, Mr. President.

1062
01:30:22,960 --> 01:30:23,420
The floor is yours.

1063
01:30:23,900 --> 01:30:24,740
Good evening, everyone.

1064
01:30:25,200 --> 01:30:27,660
There was no city attorney for the city of Gretna.

1065
01:30:28,040 --> 01:30:28,300
Yes, sir.

1066
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:32,100
There was one timeline in the agreement.

1067
01:30:32,520 --> 01:30:39,280
It was a 15-day period within which the county could approve, put all signatures together

1068
01:30:39,280 --> 01:30:41,600
to approve the interlocal agreement.

1069
01:30:41,960 --> 01:30:46,160
We're requesting that that timeline be reduced to 48 hours.

1070
01:30:47,080 --> 01:30:49,840
If everybody's an agreement with what we're doing here,

1071
01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:55,620
you know, reason why we should have to wait another 15 days to get this document executed.

1072
01:30:57,630 --> 01:30:58,970
Mr. Chair.

1073
01:30:59,290 --> 01:30:59,410
Mr. President.

1074
01:30:59,410 --> 01:30:59,570
Yes, sir.

1075
01:30:59,930 --> 01:31:00,230
Mr. President.

1076
01:31:00,790 --> 01:31:02,030
And I'm glad he brought that.

1077
01:31:02,170 --> 01:31:04,650
We're waiting on the final legal description.

1078
01:31:06,110 --> 01:31:13,030
Just to be clear, I want to personally thank the board for allowing us to get the survey done.

1079
01:31:13,030 --> 01:31:21,990
And we not done the survey, we would have taken a foot of land, a foot of land from a private landowner.

1080
01:31:22,370 --> 01:31:28,390
We were at a clouded title, and we've had a potential lawsuit coming back before the board at some unknown time.

1081
01:31:28,730 --> 01:31:29,950
And maybe the city of Redna.

1082
01:31:30,690 --> 01:31:35,150
So, I'm totally in agreement with expert darkness as quickly as possible.

1083
01:31:35,530 --> 01:31:40,370
We need to survey back, which we don't have, so you can't get the legal description, so you can't file anything.

1084
01:31:41,090 --> 01:31:47,030
And I'm not of the opinion that I would want to put any restrictions on the commission in that regard.

1085
01:31:47,530 --> 01:31:55,610
So I would say that we keep the 15 days, but Mr. Knows, as I've called you regularly, so we could get this worked out.

1086
01:31:55,970 --> 01:31:57,270
I'll make that same commitment.

1087
01:31:57,650 --> 01:32:02,130
We'll try to do it as expeditiously as possible and not do it within 15 days.

1088
01:32:02,130 --> 01:32:07,990
But we've got to get the legal description back, which you also assured me that the legal description would be here by tonight.

1089
01:32:08,910 --> 01:32:14,210
And you assured me that the legal description that you gave me was accurate and it wasn't was to my knowledge

1090
01:32:14,210 --> 01:32:19,890
I'm not a lawyer the point is that we need to make sure we do it right sir and that's what I'd like to do

1091
01:32:19,890 --> 01:32:27,530
So I'm committing let me ask the further question when will the survey be available as I mentioned to you and I talked to you

1092
01:32:27,530 --> 01:32:29,130
It was our goal to have it tonight

1093
01:32:30,010 --> 01:32:34,070
It is to be done correctly. It has to be signed and sealed as you know

1094
01:32:34,810 --> 01:32:37,630
So we expect to have it in the next day or so

1095
01:32:37,990 --> 01:32:45,530
And so once we get that, my commitment to the board is that we'll go forward and get this expedited for the City of Greteness.

1096
01:32:45,630 --> 01:32:54,650
I've mentioned before we're not here to oppose the City of Greteness economic development, but as I've said to the board before, it's important that we get it done correctly.

1097
01:32:55,250 --> 01:33:06,890
So as soon as we get that survey, what Mr. Nose and I had worked out was that I would give him that document, he would put it in for the legal description, which he's already framed, which is an exhibit here.

1098
01:33:06,890 --> 01:33:11,810
And then he will have that and he'll get it back to me as a deed and then we can record it.

1099
01:33:12,010 --> 01:33:15,710
So with all due respect, that is an attachment to a deed.

1100
01:33:15,970 --> 01:33:19,890
The deed can still be executed, subject to that attached document.

1101
01:33:20,330 --> 01:33:26,390
That document being attached to it, as can be the local agreement in a local agreement.

1102
01:33:27,050 --> 01:33:32,890
There's no reason not to go ahead and sign off on the document with the understanding that

1103
01:33:32,890 --> 01:33:37,950
that the legal description will be subsequently added to it.

1104
01:33:38,190 --> 01:33:41,870
Mr. Chair, this is about an execution issue.

1105
01:33:42,150 --> 01:33:42,650
Let's turn it on.

1106
01:33:42,990 --> 01:33:44,170
Not about a survey issue.

1107
01:33:44,490 --> 01:33:55,750
I want to say, really, I appreciate the conversation because the information that's what I'll have a problem with, but I want to speak, just wait until the end of the finish, then you go back and respond because you want to make sure it's not like a tight mold.

1108
01:33:56,170 --> 01:34:01,670
What you're saying is there's some valuable information that's coming to us, so I just want to tell you.

1109
01:34:01,670 --> 01:34:06,170
We're good for you, but we've got to represent our clients.

1110
01:34:06,170 --> 01:34:06,570
Yes, sir.

1111
01:34:06,810 --> 01:34:07,390
I understand it.

1112
01:34:07,410 --> 01:34:08,770
You know, two lawyers get together.

1113
01:34:09,010 --> 01:34:10,550
It's going to be kind of interesting sometimes.

1114
01:34:11,590 --> 01:34:12,030
You too.

1115
01:34:12,170 --> 01:34:18,030
I just, I stay out of your way, but y'all, you guys keep on, you keep on, let me, let me just

1116
01:34:18,030 --> 01:34:22,850
say this again, I keep saying that I'm committed to getting it done as quickly as possible.

1117
01:34:22,850 --> 01:34:23,990
There will be no delay.

1118
01:34:24,530 --> 01:34:28,390
We need to get all the documents in order and then execute all the documents one time.

1119
01:34:28,390 --> 01:34:29,950
That's the proper way to do it.

1120
01:34:29,950 --> 01:34:36,390
And so we get the survey back tomorrow, just like I've called you regularly, and you have to agree that I've called you regularly.

1121
01:34:36,770 --> 01:34:50,430
Oh yeah, right, and then I will send that document to you as soon as I get it, and then we'll get it everything ready, and we need a vote to approve these chairman's authorization to sign the document, and once we get all the documents together.

1122
01:34:51,710 --> 01:34:56,570
As I've mentioned to each of you individually, you follow the path that we put in place.

1123
01:34:56,850 --> 01:34:59,970
There's no knocks on the doors, five years, ten years down the road.

1124
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:16,340
roll. We get things done in proper form and proper order. And that's what we're going to do here. And so we got the legal description done properly. So there's no issues there. Now we just need a couple of days. Maybe maybe tomorrow, just to button it up and get it done properly. And that's my recommendation to the board.

1125
01:35:29,560 --> 01:35:29,960
Okay.

1126
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:36,380
I'm going to come back once you get that survey completed, so I mean, I'm legally, can we go ahead and make that approval?

1127
01:35:38,710 --> 01:35:39,150
Chair.

1128
01:35:39,610 --> 01:35:40,030
Yes, sir.

1129
01:35:40,350 --> 01:35:40,430
Okay.

1130
01:35:40,670 --> 01:35:43,630
The answer is yes, if I wasn't clear, that's my recommendation.

1131
01:35:44,210 --> 01:35:50,910
The legal description, Mr. Nose and I agree, as a minor issue, as it relates to the approval of the interlocal agreement.

1132
01:35:51,430 --> 01:35:56,930
You approve the interlocal agreement that authorizes the transfer, we need to attach the legal description.

1133
01:35:57,350 --> 01:36:00,290
Once we get all of that, it's presented to the Chair for signature.

1134
01:36:00,290 --> 01:36:13,410
So the motion is to approve the chair to sign the interlocal agreement upon all the documents being in place, and then you don't have to come back for a second review by the board.

1135
01:36:14,150 --> 01:36:18,950
Thank you, and I understand that, but I just wanted to be clarified even more as we move forward with this item.

1136
01:36:19,130 --> 01:36:19,390
Thank you.

1137
01:36:20,070 --> 01:36:20,510
Yes, sir.

1138
01:36:20,510 --> 01:36:30,990
Okay, one right, quick, one repeat, Mr. Attorney, with the approval of a signed legal agreement with the legal description.

1139
01:36:31,810 --> 01:36:49,790
Once we, the motion is that the board will approve that the transfer of the Clifford Johnson road via interlocal agreement and authorized the chairman to sign the interlocal agreement upon a legal description being attached to the interlocal agreement.

1140
01:36:49,790 --> 01:36:50,570
Okay.

1141
01:36:50,570 --> 01:36:50,890
Okay.

1142
01:36:51,490 --> 01:36:58,010
Commissioner Simpke, you have a quick question with the legal description.

1143
01:36:58,150 --> 01:37:06,430
Is that something that we're waiting for them to give to us or is that something that

1144
01:37:06,430 --> 01:37:10,750
we, with the survey, that's our survey.

1145
01:37:10,870 --> 01:37:13,550
We're waiting for the legal description from our surveyor.

1146
01:37:13,890 --> 01:37:14,810
Chair, yes, sir.

1147
01:37:15,210 --> 01:37:19,650
Commissioner, what Mr. Knows and I agreed to is that he drafted up the legal description.

1148
01:37:19,650 --> 01:37:23,930
So we had it framed, excuse me, the deeds that we had it framed.

1149
01:37:24,650 --> 01:37:27,970
And then we're just going to get the surveys legal description.

1150
01:37:28,370 --> 01:37:31,830
And when we get that, he's going to serve that in that and once we got that, we're done.

1151
01:37:31,890 --> 01:37:32,730
Right, I understand.

1152
01:37:33,030 --> 01:37:37,550
My question is, who is going to provide this legal description?

1153
01:37:37,830 --> 01:37:38,290
The surveyer.

1154
01:37:38,550 --> 01:37:40,270
Okay, so do we have a time?

1155
01:37:40,670 --> 01:37:41,650
The county's surveyer.

1156
01:37:41,790 --> 01:37:43,070
Okay, that's my question.

1157
01:37:43,530 --> 01:37:50,840
So we should have the survey from our county surveyer.

1158
01:37:53,160 --> 01:38:01,060
within, by the end of this week, we should, we should, and again, let me finish.

1159
01:38:01,640 --> 01:38:07,140
And the reason I'm saying that is because we, and I know I wanted us to make sure that

1160
01:38:07,140 --> 01:38:13,500
we did our due diligence, but at the same time, I do not want us to continue to hold up,

1161
01:38:14,000 --> 01:38:19,520
or we may not be holding up, but I don't want us to drag, drag, drag, if we're able to find

1162
01:38:19,520 --> 01:38:37,540
And now when our survey is going to be able to provide that information, we can give them a call and find out when they're going to provide that information, because I don't want us to wait this 15 day because we have the 15 days, we wait the 15 days.

1163
01:38:37,800 --> 01:38:46,960
We're talking about another two weeks, so if you are expecting it tonight, then we should have it by the end of the week.

1164
01:38:55,040 --> 01:39:01,680
I don't know that the city has a recourse against the board, but to the extent that something

1165
01:39:01,680 --> 01:39:08,680
happens outside of the control of the board with the serve there, then I don't want to

1166
01:39:08,680 --> 01:39:10,520
know what recourse they have.

1167
01:39:10,760 --> 01:39:12,440
I know that we should be able to get it done.

1168
01:39:12,440 --> 01:39:15,780
And we should have had it today, I asked the surveyer to get it today.

1169
01:39:16,160 --> 01:39:22,620
They dropped other jobs to get the survey done early because it needed to be done.

1170
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:26,440
We wanted to get it in proper form with legal description done.

1171
01:39:26,940 --> 01:39:32,580
But I don't control the surveyer, he's committed to me that he would have had it today, but he didn't.

1172
01:39:32,680 --> 01:39:37,120
So I can only assume because of his word quality that he's making sure he does it right.

1173
01:39:37,120 --> 01:39:51,220
So, I've committed to Mr. Knows that as soon as I get it, as I've discussed everything with him regularly, that I will get it to him, and if you authorize the chair to sign it, it could be tomorrow.

1174
01:39:51,920 --> 01:39:59,440
But that's a different issue as whether you would bind yourself with a shorter time period if something outside of the control of the commission would occur.

1175
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:28,920
And that's all I'm saying. It's not that we're going to wait 15 days. We just don't put unnecessary restrictions on the board that if something outside of the control of the board would occur. So, again, my commitment to the board is that as soon as I get it, as I've done with everything else with Mr. Nose, I return, I turn it over fairly quickly. If I remember correctly, you sent me the interlocal agreement and I got it back to you the next day. That's correct. Right. So we're not. There's no.

1176
01:40:28,920 --> 01:40:33,940
So to the extent there may be a suggestion that there's any delays happening from the commission side.

1177
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:38,500
There's not happening, we're actually moving very exponentially to get this down from Mr. Noes.

1178
01:40:38,800 --> 01:40:42,200
I have two parenthetical comments I'd like to make if you don't mind.

1179
01:40:42,400 --> 01:40:43,760
It does me for one second.

1180
01:40:43,940 --> 01:40:44,240
Yes sir.

1181
01:40:44,860 --> 01:40:51,720
Our problem has been, and our frustration has been, that this has taken three months to get done.

1182
01:40:52,340 --> 01:40:57,860
And then really it's a roadway project as everyone knows, maybe the citizens don't.

1183
01:40:57,860 --> 01:41:04,660
But this is just the project itself is on hold and Mr.

1184
01:41:05,320 --> 01:41:09,160
stalwart, I believe it is, this is a $28 million project.

1185
01:41:10,220 --> 01:41:17,300
So there are things going on in this county, it's in your district sir, so welcome aboard, this is our gift to you.

1186
01:41:18,460 --> 01:41:20,420
Didn't give it to me huh, but I had it.

1187
01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:25,760
It's a gift to everyone please, you're correct.

1188
01:41:26,260 --> 01:41:34,900
But my point is, we're just, you know, these people are waiting in Oklahoma to come and start turning dirt.

1189
01:41:35,640 --> 01:41:38,420
And we're talking about economic development and everything in it tonight.

1190
01:41:38,820 --> 01:41:42,280
We're talking about economic development in Gaston County and we need this, that the other.

1191
01:41:42,980 --> 01:41:45,320
There is economic development that is going on.

1192
01:41:45,660 --> 01:41:48,640
This is the largest project that I'm aware of at this point.

1193
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:50,240
So we need to get it going.

1194
01:41:50,980 --> 01:41:52,240
We're ready to turn dirt.

1195
01:41:52,240 --> 01:41:52,820
er...

1196
01:41:52,820 --> 01:41:56,080
I'm the chair now.

1197
01:41:58,620 --> 01:42:02,260
Man you've been alone.

1198
01:42:02,640 --> 01:42:05,080
Down on the way.

1199
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:14,460
Or is there any responsibility to be a lawyer or a student?

1200
01:42:14,460 --> 01:42:16,220
Well, that's definitely fuert.

1201
01:42:17,620 --> 01:42:26,300
I think that's a lot of back and forth, and in the spirit of compromise, Mr. Knows, let's say ten days so we can move this agenda ahead.

1202
01:42:26,580 --> 01:42:27,960
Absolutely, we have it done.

1203
01:42:28,540 --> 01:42:31,200
This is the third month, you said.

1204
01:42:31,400 --> 01:42:32,600
Unexceptible or acceptable.

1205
01:42:33,020 --> 01:42:39,740
Unexceptible. That's why I ask for a two-day lead time instead of a 15-day lead time.

1206
01:42:42,100 --> 01:42:43,740
Well, we can't give you what you don't have.

1207
01:42:43,960 --> 01:42:48,940
The thing is that I'm just curious, all fairness, I'm just trying to figure things out.

1208
01:42:50,160 --> 01:42:51,840
We've been knowing about this for a while, right?

1209
01:42:52,380 --> 01:42:52,500
No.

1210
01:42:52,760 --> 01:42:52,820
No.

1211
01:42:53,180 --> 01:43:00,040
I know I got a phone call this weekend, so somebody had no something that it was here that

1212
01:43:00,040 --> 01:43:00,820
we were doing this.

1213
01:43:00,980 --> 01:43:01,960
We had this conversation.

1214
01:43:02,480 --> 01:43:04,200
Oh, sorry to fire, sorry to somebody like that.

1215
01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:12,160
So if we knew about it Friday, why can't we get started Friday or get started Monday and trying to get the

1216
01:43:12,160 --> 01:43:16,740
probably trying to be fair by job be fair with everybody I understand we need

1217
01:43:17,620 --> 01:43:22,420
People understand the difference between urgency and sense of urgency this urgent right here

1218
01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:29,400
So I think that because you because you only got a certain time frame right here. It was a certain time frame to

1219
01:43:29,400 --> 01:43:33,480
because if someone don't call me, change their mind, any given day.

1220
01:43:34,060 --> 01:43:39,500
Some can happen, but at the same time now, I must respect the attorney's guidance

1221
01:43:39,500 --> 01:43:44,380
because we don't want to be stuck in a acquired marb, because we've registered too quick

1222
01:43:44,380 --> 01:43:50,260
and then, like you say, there's so much stuff that you find like a foot into a private property,

1223
01:43:50,700 --> 01:43:51,300
things like that.

1224
01:43:51,660 --> 01:43:52,900
That's why I got to respect you.

1225
01:43:53,520 --> 01:43:58,160
I got to give you the floor to make sure because he is our attorney and you've got to list

1226
01:43:58,160 --> 01:44:02,760
But at the same time, we're going to have an urgency on this matter, though, to make sure we get it quick in swallowing.

1227
01:44:04,340 --> 01:44:15,120
Now, I'm sorry, now, Mr. Chair, you want to say a thing for me to make you want to, for like, at this point, my sense of it is it should be done inside of ten days.

1228
01:44:15,120 --> 01:44:25,140
It should be done inside of two days, but I don't, you know, commissioners, and I hate to go back down memory lane, but just so you understand, understand.

1229
01:44:25,140 --> 01:44:29,840
And I mean, I represented Governor State of Florida, I was a General Counselor of the Florida Department of Transportation.

1230
01:44:30,720 --> 01:44:40,380
And no situation of I ever advised a board or an entity, a government entity, to put pressure on themselves when they can't control the outcome.

1231
01:44:41,120 --> 01:44:45,880
So in this case, my recommendation is, and apparently Mr. Nose is not in agreement.

1232
01:44:46,200 --> 01:44:51,320
We'll cut it from 15 days to 10 days, but my commitment has been from the outset.

1233
01:44:51,320 --> 01:44:59,660
And I have worked with Mr. Knows throughout this to get it done sooner than that, but not put pressure on the board if because you don't control the serve there.

1234
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:29,980
He could have someone in his family that gets ill. He may have an emergency trip out of town, something totally outside of our control, and then we have a time frame by which we said we would do something, which we can't commit, we can't complete. So, cut it from 10 days, 15 days to 10, I'm comfortable with the day to get it done in that time frame. I'm hoping it gets it tomorrow. But I can't recommend to you that you would actually put pressure on yourselves to complete a task when you don't control the hour.

1235
01:45:29,980 --> 01:45:30,220
Okay.

1236
01:45:31,440 --> 01:45:36,160
But let me let you make your motion, Gary.

1237
01:45:36,440 --> 01:45:36,880
Who are we?

1238
01:45:37,700 --> 01:45:38,960
So I just like to make a comment.

1239
01:45:39,480 --> 01:45:40,540
I want to make a motion.

1240
01:45:40,920 --> 01:45:41,100
Okay.

1241
01:45:41,400 --> 01:45:42,260
Go ahead, meet you.

1242
01:45:42,480 --> 01:45:43,800
And I just like to make a comment.

1243
01:45:44,000 --> 01:45:44,460
You're sitting here.

1244
01:45:44,540 --> 01:45:46,160
I mean, it is my district.

1245
01:45:46,900 --> 01:45:47,980
I'm very thankful.

1246
01:45:50,880 --> 01:45:53,540
My part of it is, is I got out of the way.

1247
01:45:54,700 --> 01:45:57,940
Talking to the commissioners in the city of Gretna

1248
01:45:57,940 --> 01:46:04,620
and your manager, I thought it was a great project for the city of Gretna, hats off to you.

1249
01:46:05,180 --> 01:46:08,300
I don't know if any of my commissioners are in here, I see a couple.

1250
01:46:09,120 --> 01:46:17,360
I thought you did very good, 28 million, 50 jobs, a couple hundred thousand dollars return

1251
01:46:17,960 --> 01:46:20,780
to the community every year from taxes, as my understanding.

1252
01:46:20,780 --> 01:46:30,420
Whether we have stone watered or not, it is the perception, and perception is reality.

1253
01:46:31,720 --> 01:46:35,260
And for us, this is the same thing that we were talking about, Dr. Stahlworth, about

1254
01:46:35,260 --> 01:46:36,080
working together.

1255
01:46:37,300 --> 01:46:41,740
We have got to get to where we allow other people to be successful.

1256
01:46:43,460 --> 01:46:49,900
And I did what Reverend Bush, one of my favorite people of all time, says sometimes major, you

1257
01:46:49,900 --> 01:46:53,060
to get out of the way for other people to be successful.

1258
01:46:53,760 --> 01:46:55,900
I had absolutely nothing to do with this,

1259
01:46:56,060 --> 01:46:58,160
and that's not what you hear politicians say,

1260
01:46:58,820 --> 01:46:59,980
but I didn't.

1261
01:47:00,940 --> 01:47:03,580
And I feel that the timeframe,

1262
01:47:04,120 --> 01:47:06,620
and I get what the lawyer is saying,

1263
01:47:07,160 --> 01:47:11,080
but we're at a point to where it has to be expeditiously.

1264
01:47:12,920 --> 01:47:15,140
And we have to move this forward.

1265
01:47:15,800 --> 01:47:17,260
And I would like to see that timeframe

1266
01:47:17,260 --> 01:47:25,420
even further down if we can, and if we can't, then we do amend it, and the manager does

1267
01:47:25,420 --> 01:47:27,260
what he needs to do to bring it back.

1268
01:47:28,100 --> 01:47:33,080
Everyone of us understand that, but you got a man that's putting 28 million dollars in

1269
01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:35,820
my district, 50 jobs.

1270
01:47:37,000 --> 01:47:39,000
And this is what we talk about, economic development.

1271
01:47:39,180 --> 01:47:43,720
We just spend all this money that we got to under, but this guy's coming to us.

1272
01:47:44,500 --> 01:47:52,440
And so if we cut that days and we cut it down to three to five days, is that a problem?

1273
01:47:52,580 --> 01:47:53,640
Mr. Knows, is that acceptable?

1274
01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:53,920
No, sir.

1275
01:47:54,120 --> 01:47:54,600
That would be fine.

1276
01:47:54,800 --> 01:48:02,920
Do you feel like to threaten anyone in here that's official, is that out of line to you?

1277
01:48:03,160 --> 01:48:04,180
I think that would be fine.

1278
01:48:05,060 --> 01:48:09,180
You know, with all due respect, this is just, Laurie is going back and forth.

1279
01:48:09,280 --> 01:48:09,440
Okay.

1280
01:48:09,440 --> 01:48:11,940
We're going to have time to go back and forth, because we're going to have to go forward.

1281
01:48:12,420 --> 01:48:12,880
We need to move.

1282
01:48:13,220 --> 01:48:14,440
It helps when you speak English.

1283
01:48:15,900 --> 01:48:17,320
It helps when you'll speak English.

1284
01:48:19,140 --> 01:48:21,400
Mr. Chairman, may I make a motion please?

1285
01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:22,160
Yes, but-

1286
01:48:22,160 --> 01:48:25,320
Okay, well, I would like to move past, fail, or whatever.

1287
01:48:25,620 --> 01:48:25,740
Yes.

1288
01:48:25,900 --> 01:48:31,620
I would like to move that we approve the interlocal agreement and execution of the right-of-way

1289
01:48:31,620 --> 01:48:37,640
these conveying the ownership of Clifford Johnson Road to the city of Gretna and authorize

1290
01:48:37,640 --> 01:48:43,080
the chairman to sign Mr. Attorney, anything else?

1291
01:48:43,260 --> 01:48:44,000
I want to serve it.

1292
01:48:44,180 --> 01:48:44,800
What's the survey?

1293
01:48:45,020 --> 01:48:45,200
Right.

1294
01:48:45,360 --> 01:48:46,300
And we have a legal description.

1295
01:48:46,820 --> 01:48:47,800
And we have a legal description.

1296
01:48:48,500 --> 01:48:49,400
And that's my motion.

1297
01:48:49,640 --> 01:48:51,120
Without having to come back to the board.

1298
01:48:51,220 --> 01:48:52,880
We don't ever want to come back to the board.

1299
01:48:53,220 --> 01:48:53,460
All right.

1300
01:48:53,660 --> 01:48:54,560
I'll second that.

1301
01:48:55,040 --> 01:48:56,520
What is the time on that?

1302
01:48:57,360 --> 01:48:58,060
Here's the thing.

1303
01:48:58,660 --> 01:48:59,240
Let's go.

1304
01:48:59,240 --> 01:49:04,100
But he asked him for a time, but we can't give a time when you don't know when he's going to have the survey completed.

1305
01:49:04,880 --> 01:49:09,180
Again, I'm sorry, but this is so unnecessarily complicated.

1306
01:49:09,780 --> 01:49:14,700
When we all know that he's made it very clear, it's up to the survey when we get the survey.

1307
01:49:15,100 --> 01:49:17,820
If it comes tomorrow, it gets executed tomorrow.

1308
01:49:18,100 --> 01:49:20,400
If it takes 10 days, that's when you get it.

1309
01:49:20,660 --> 01:49:21,520
We don't have.

1310
01:49:22,160 --> 01:49:23,700
So we need to carry the motion.

1311
01:49:24,400 --> 01:49:26,280
As was stated, I'm second in that motion.

1312
01:49:26,800 --> 01:49:27,740
Thank you.

1313
01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:31,760
No, not at all, but I'm just ready to move.

1314
01:49:32,080 --> 01:49:32,560
Here we go.

1315
01:49:33,060 --> 01:49:40,360
So we got a motion in a second on the floor, and now we have discussion about commission.

1316
01:49:40,480 --> 01:49:46,800
Just quickly, what I'm going to request is, since we're not, we're stating we don't know the time.

1317
01:49:47,180 --> 01:49:50,960
What I'm going to request Mr. Attorney is, if we can have the commissioners,

1318
01:49:50,960 --> 01:49:59,920
If you can email the surveyor and if you can send us, you can see us on that email with them giving us a time frame.

1319
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:29,980
I mean, when that legal description will be available, that's what I would like to have. Chair, if I could suggest it's probably better not to involve this survey on emails from the commissioners, but I think it's appropriate for the administrator of myself to convey back to you what they responded as to what the time I would be, if you're okay with that. I don't understand why I can't receive an email from this committee.

1320
01:50:29,980 --> 01:50:36,540
survey. So if you can, if you can, it means to come to you directly and you send me the email,

1321
01:50:36,740 --> 01:50:43,680
then that's fine. But I'd like to see it in writing. And Mr. Chairman, just, we have asked the

1322
01:50:43,680 --> 01:50:49,880
surveyer to drop jobs to complete this job because we gave him our word that this will be on the

1323
01:50:49,880 --> 01:50:58,920
agenda tonight. It is on the agenda before you as we stated. There has not been any complications

1324
01:50:58,920 --> 01:51:04,280
to right now, we will continue to move expeditiously and get this done.

1325
01:51:04,740 --> 01:51:10,960
If it's not done in two days, you will hear from me as to what it is the surveyer says.

1326
01:51:11,580 --> 01:51:13,280
We expect that it will be done.

1327
01:51:15,410 --> 01:51:15,610
Okay.

1328
01:51:16,130 --> 01:51:16,430
Thank you.

1329
01:51:16,430 --> 01:51:19,290
I'll wait for the email from the surveyer so we can go through it.

1330
01:51:19,550 --> 01:51:20,690
Thank you all very much.

1331
01:51:21,070 --> 01:51:21,530
I'll thank you.

1332
01:51:21,590 --> 01:51:22,150
Thank you.

1333
01:51:22,150 --> 01:51:22,270
No.

1334
01:51:23,230 --> 01:51:23,890
Do it.

1335
01:51:24,570 --> 01:51:25,030
Okay.

1336
01:51:25,530 --> 01:51:25,850
Okay.

1337
01:51:25,850 --> 01:51:26,410
We have a motion.

1338
01:51:26,570 --> 01:51:26,930
Second.

1339
01:51:28,090 --> 01:51:29,070
All the papers are.

1340
01:51:29,070 --> 01:51:31,130
I and one of polls.

1341
01:51:31,410 --> 01:51:32,950
All right, five will vote.

1342
01:51:33,130 --> 01:51:33,830
I'll write it.

1343
01:51:37,220 --> 01:51:37,520
Okay.

1344
01:51:38,100 --> 01:51:39,260
Oh, he said auction.

1345
01:51:39,640 --> 01:51:39,880
Okay.

1346
01:51:40,540 --> 01:51:41,040
All right.

1347
01:51:41,840 --> 01:51:42,460
All right.

1348
01:51:45,270 --> 01:51:45,410
Okay.

1349
01:51:45,570 --> 01:51:46,370
I'm lab and see.

1350
01:51:48,640 --> 01:51:49,140
Okay.

1351
01:51:50,420 --> 01:51:55,540
I'm lab and see the discussion of Adam of the investigation of the auction.

1352
01:51:56,180 --> 01:51:56,880
I'm going to give it to the image.

1353
01:51:57,500 --> 01:51:58,180
Mr. Kennedy.

1354
01:51:59,540 --> 01:52:01,080
I didn't realize you were the auction.

1355
01:52:01,900 --> 01:52:03,480
Or just in general.

1356
01:52:03,740 --> 01:52:04,100
In general.

1357
01:52:07,040 --> 01:52:09,700
I'm going to address the elephant in the room.

1358
01:52:10,340 --> 01:52:15,200
I think listening to the speakers, we have all heard that there's a lot of things that

1359
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:17,340
are going on that people have concern about.

1360
01:52:17,880 --> 01:52:21,820
I can tell you on the campaign trail, it was something that I heard often.

1361
01:52:23,000 --> 01:52:28,580
And so I would like, because I know how difficult it is as being someone that was over internals,

1362
01:52:29,200 --> 01:52:30,820
being someone who's had to do them.

1363
01:52:30,820 --> 01:52:34,480
And when you're talking about people that are in charge,

1364
01:52:35,160 --> 01:52:39,720
those people that are in positions to have the authority to deal with the people doing the investigation,

1365
01:52:40,640 --> 01:52:50,000
I think we need to ask outside to look at this and determine if there is any illegal activity and what's going on.

1366
01:52:50,640 --> 01:52:57,920
And then it will answer the question, what are we doing? Are we transparent? And that's my thought.

1367
01:53:12,600 --> 01:53:24,320
I do think that we need to give opportunity for to find out what it is that the internal investigation is going to find out the findings.

1368
01:53:24,320 --> 01:53:29,600
We have to give opportunity for that process, and I do believe that after that process is done,

1369
01:53:30,180 --> 01:53:32,760
that the appropriate actions will be taken.

1370
01:53:33,260 --> 01:53:40,980
And based on what is found, if needed to go to another step by all means, I support going

1371
01:53:40,980 --> 01:53:45,460
to the next step, if it requires the next step.

1372
01:53:45,840 --> 01:53:50,140
But in the process that will be in, I almost feel like we're not given opportunity for those

1373
01:53:50,140 --> 01:53:58,200
those who are conditioned or those who are, who service or work in that department in an area to do their jobs or to do their diligence.

1374
01:53:58,840 --> 01:54:05,360
So I want to make sure that we are extending that opportunity, but hopefully that we will have some results sooner than later.

1375
01:54:05,840 --> 01:54:10,880
I was actually hoping that that part of the process could have been done before the meeting tonight.

1376
01:54:10,880 --> 01:54:26,620
And I guess that we're having that conversation that if I can ask HR, you know, to come to the mic, you know, asking them, asking them administrator for permission to just ask HR a question about the process.

1377
01:54:26,960 --> 01:54:38,000
And I will advise that we don't have a hole for a conversation about this because it can in return become a very detailed legal matter that we want to make sure that we're careful for how we trade.

1378
01:54:38,000 --> 01:54:42,720
But I just want, I just have a simple question from the HR director if allow.

1379
01:54:43,000 --> 01:54:43,440
Mr. Turner.

1380
01:54:44,180 --> 01:54:45,260
Good evening, Mr. Dixon.

1381
01:54:45,660 --> 01:54:56,280
Board and commissioners, one of the first things that I looked at was whether or not this investigation was exempt under Chapter 119 as being a public record and it is exempt.

1382
01:54:56,460 --> 01:54:59,940
So I just want to say that when you ask questions of the HR.

1383
01:55:00,340 --> 01:55:27,640
Person that you keep a more general, so it doesn't compromise the investigation. One thing that is clear in this investigation, I've been watching it is that you have documentation. And there are a lot of different types of investigations commissioner, you know, as a former prosecutor, I've been involved in them as general counsels involved with them. When you have documentation, the only question is whether you got all the documentation or not as opposed to as opposed to just statements from individuals.

1384
01:55:27,640 --> 01:55:48,500
So this is a transaction that involves documentation and I think that the HR person again without getting into much detail is involved in collecting all of the documents and the documents tell the stories and the documents either cooperate or don't cooperate the statements that are made but the documents don't change.

1385
01:55:49,020 --> 01:55:51,880
So the documents will be accurate about what actually happens.

1386
01:55:51,880 --> 01:56:07,680
And so to the extent that there are questions that are generated based on what the documents provide, I think it would be appropriate for some external review, but the documents are going to be the controlling review or what occurred in this and this matter, I think at this point.

1387
01:56:09,420 --> 01:56:11,120
Commissioner Green has answered the question.

1388
01:56:11,240 --> 01:56:14,440
No, I asked, well, that wasn't a question for him to answer for me.

1389
01:56:14,600 --> 01:56:19,300
I was asking for permission to ask my simple question to my HR director.

1390
01:56:19,460 --> 01:56:21,220
Sure, sure, all of the HR director.

1391
01:56:32,410 --> 01:56:33,570
All right, thank you.

1392
01:56:33,950 --> 01:56:34,870
How are you doing, Dr. Burrell?

1393
01:56:35,030 --> 01:56:35,530
How are you?

1394
01:56:35,750 --> 01:56:36,550
Good, simple question.

1395
01:56:36,790 --> 01:56:36,950
Sure.

1396
01:56:37,270 --> 01:56:43,870
And the simple question is, do you have a timeline on when your part of this investigation will be finished?

1397
01:56:43,870 --> 01:56:53,730
I'm hoping by the end of the week, but I know the timeline, but we're at the process that

1398
01:56:53,730 --> 01:57:03,830
we're ready for to do a final review of the, to analyze the documentation.

1399
01:57:04,930 --> 01:57:12,130
So definitely by, when people say the end of the week, I never or give a few days, I like

1400
01:57:12,130 --> 01:57:17,290
to give abstentions because as it's been stated, anything can transpire throughout this process.

1401
01:57:17,650 --> 01:57:20,450
So I want to make sure that we're being fair and let you're doing your job.

1402
01:57:20,530 --> 01:57:25,350
And I just wanted it to be known that you are working as hard as you can to be as accurate

1403
01:57:25,350 --> 01:57:27,470
as you can with the information that you're going to present.

1404
01:57:27,790 --> 01:57:30,430
So thank you for Mr. Administrative for allowing me to ask that question.

1405
01:57:30,610 --> 01:57:31,230
Thank you, Dr. Brown.

1406
01:57:31,290 --> 01:57:31,490
Yes.

1407
01:57:32,790 --> 01:57:33,110
Thank you.

1408
01:57:33,490 --> 01:57:34,450
Thank you.

1409
01:57:34,590 --> 01:57:35,450
Mrs. HR.

1410
01:57:36,470 --> 01:57:37,190
Commissioner Wolves.

1411
01:57:38,170 --> 01:57:43,610
So, as a former state attorney, do you think that these people that are getting interviewed

1412
01:57:44,350 --> 01:57:50,470
in a internal investigation, that there's the possibility that they can incriminate themselves

1413
01:57:50,470 --> 01:57:51,270
in their statements?

1414
01:57:52,550 --> 01:57:55,650
Do you think that or is this just a fact-finding?

1415
01:57:56,230 --> 01:57:57,590
Are they going to interview people?

1416
01:57:58,610 --> 01:58:01,050
Again, we're going to be very generic right now.

1417
01:58:01,350 --> 01:58:03,210
The answer is yes, they're going to interview people.

1418
01:58:03,210 --> 01:58:08,710
So the best example I can give you is how you would do an FBI background check.

1419
01:58:08,970 --> 01:58:14,570
You have questions that you're asking the visuals, and as you know, they may bring up other names.

1420
01:58:15,010 --> 01:58:17,770
And then that leads to additional interviews that will occur.

1421
01:58:21,180 --> 01:58:24,160
Commissioner Simpkins, thank you, Commissioner Wolves.

1422
01:58:25,840 --> 01:58:27,940
Thank you, Commissioner Hanson.

1423
01:58:27,940 --> 01:58:37,200
And I'm going to agree with Commissioner Wood and the reason why when this initially came

1424
01:58:37,200 --> 01:58:46,260
for in our previous meeting and then we kind of missed, nothing comes on the agenda.

1425
01:58:46,880 --> 01:58:52,620
Well, I guess I need to ask who approves the agenda, Mr. Administrator, before it comes

1426
01:58:52,620 --> 01:58:53,220
to us.

1427
01:58:54,240 --> 01:58:55,360
Approves the agenda.

1428
01:58:55,420 --> 01:58:55,540
Right.

1429
01:58:55,540 --> 01:58:58,240
Who reviews the agenda to see what's on the agenda?

1430
01:58:58,780 --> 01:59:02,400
Staff in the chair, I mean, usually it's a review the agenda.

1431
01:59:03,080 --> 01:59:06,300
Because that made it to the board, right?

1432
01:59:07,240 --> 01:59:17,200
So with that making it to the board, I do believe that there needs to be an external investigation.

1433
01:59:19,980 --> 01:59:22,620
Because this is something that the

1434
01:59:24,950 --> 01:59:27,890
administrator approves the agenda.

1435
01:59:27,890 --> 01:59:33,700
And because it made it to us, there was some awareness.

1436
01:59:34,440 --> 01:59:37,600
So I believe there needs to be an external.

1437
01:59:39,340 --> 01:59:44,020
And that puts, and what happens is, we can try to be,

1438
01:59:44,720 --> 01:59:49,200
we can, you know, say that everything is done and no one will be.

1439
01:59:49,640 --> 01:59:53,260
No one is job scared or no one.

1440
01:59:53,400 --> 01:59:55,140
You know, people will speak freely.

1441
01:59:56,040 --> 01:59:57,200
Let's be realistic.

1442
01:59:58,040 --> 01:59:59,980
and I think if we

1443
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:31,240
We have it done externally. Then this is going to calm down some of the things, some of the concerns that the citizens have that I have. I believe an external investigation would do that. And that's what we need to, we need to move ourselves from this.

1444
02:00:33,360 --> 02:00:38,080
And even our employees from this, and it needs to be done externally.

1445
02:00:38,920 --> 02:00:39,480
Commissioner.

1446
02:00:39,780 --> 02:00:39,940
Thank you.

1447
02:00:40,520 --> 02:00:41,900
Oh, Dean, Commissioner Green.

1448
02:00:42,140 --> 02:00:42,560
And I apologize.

1449
02:00:43,040 --> 02:00:43,820
I mean, Commissioner Green.

1450
02:00:44,740 --> 02:00:45,300
Okay.

1451
02:00:46,320 --> 02:00:47,200
Thank you.

1452
02:00:47,780 --> 02:00:51,740
Ladies and gentlemen, this does not mean you can't do an external anyway.

1453
02:00:52,500 --> 02:00:58,020
If you don't agree with what the results, or even if you want one and you agree with the

1454
02:00:58,020 --> 02:01:01,300
results, you still can have an external investigation.

1455
02:01:01,300 --> 02:01:08,740
so that's not even the point. I think the point of this is to allow the people that need to do their job to do their job.

1456
02:01:10,160 --> 02:01:14,400
We can't say someone is guilty because I picked them out.

1457
02:01:15,100 --> 02:01:24,420
Okay. All we can do is look at evidence. Now once that's looked at and you do not agree, have extra investigation anyway.

1458
02:01:24,420 --> 02:01:33,300
is very simple to do that. My concern with this is to make sure that we do not stumble

1459
02:01:33,300 --> 02:01:38,860
when it comes to people's rights, when it comes to the rights of the citizens or a government.

1460
02:01:40,520 --> 02:01:46,900
If you are said to have done something, then we go through the process. I always tell the administrator,

1461
02:01:46,900 --> 02:01:50,060
And every administrator I've ever worked with since 02.

1462
02:01:50,960 --> 02:01:54,060
To please follow policy and procedure.

1463
02:01:54,980 --> 02:01:56,460
Do what we need to do.

1464
02:01:57,160 --> 02:01:59,300
The first thing I do is call attorneys.

1465
02:02:00,220 --> 02:02:03,440
And say the attorneys, this is what I want to know.

1466
02:02:03,840 --> 02:02:04,800
What's going on?

1467
02:02:05,120 --> 02:02:06,680
Tell me exactly what's happening.

1468
02:02:07,940 --> 02:02:12,620
Do not, and I always tell them this, when you tell me something, you tell all the other commissioners.

1469
02:02:12,620 --> 02:02:18,400
Mr. Decident tell you that when I say tell me what you tell me tell everyone else the same thing

1470
02:02:19,060 --> 02:02:20,760
Make sure that they're aware

1471
02:02:21,460 --> 02:02:27,500
And so what we're doing is we are becoming all of us are becoming prosecutors and

1472
02:02:28,600 --> 02:02:30,060
We're prosecuting people

1473
02:02:30,060 --> 02:02:37,660
Give them the policy and procedure. Do your investigation turn around if you want an external investigation do that, too

1474
02:02:38,380 --> 02:02:41,640
Because that's what that's what you want and that's that's your right

1475
02:02:42,620 --> 02:02:46,020
But I don't think that we should jump to any conclusions.

1476
02:02:46,660 --> 02:02:49,580
I didn't like some things, and I won't tell you I did.

1477
02:02:50,420 --> 02:02:54,200
But I do say let the process work itself out.

1478
02:02:54,980 --> 02:02:56,820
And then ask for whatever you want.

1479
02:03:00,630 --> 02:03:01,570
You finished the commission?

1480
02:03:01,690 --> 02:03:01,990
Yes, sir.

1481
02:03:02,810 --> 02:03:05,970
Uh, HR, I got a question for you again.

1482
02:03:06,430 --> 02:03:08,170
Do you realize you're acknowledging me after her too?

1483
02:03:08,190 --> 02:03:08,790
I don't have a nose.

1484
02:03:09,270 --> 02:03:09,950
You already did.

1485
02:03:10,130 --> 02:03:11,390
No, by law, I don't want to do that.

1486
02:03:11,770 --> 02:03:12,470
She's a staff.

1487
02:03:12,850 --> 02:03:13,530
I can talk to her.

1488
02:03:13,570 --> 02:03:14,610
I'm just saying by law, now.

1489
02:03:14,610 --> 02:03:16,030
First of all, that's not what I said.

1490
02:03:16,250 --> 02:03:17,970
Oh, I think trying to acknowledge the kind of ministry,

1491
02:03:18,090 --> 02:03:19,830
I'm just saying in general, I just want to acknowledge her,

1492
02:03:20,010 --> 02:03:21,330
real quick, just a quick question.

1493
02:03:21,730 --> 02:03:22,970
Dan, we go back to commissioning green.

1494
02:03:22,970 --> 02:03:23,390
I apologize.

1495
02:03:24,130 --> 02:03:24,450
That's right.

1496
02:03:24,890 --> 02:03:27,410
Because I know this is, I just want to make sure

1497
02:03:27,410 --> 02:03:28,330
we do everything right away.

1498
02:03:28,750 --> 02:03:30,750
Because this may help your question out a little bit.

1499
02:03:31,270 --> 02:03:35,450
Do we have a policy on, on donor investigation as well?

1500
02:03:35,690 --> 02:03:36,590
Do we have a policy for that?

1501
02:03:36,810 --> 02:03:39,050
We've created some procedures.

1502
02:03:39,310 --> 02:03:40,610
So y'all creating a policy now?

1503
02:03:40,790 --> 02:03:43,770
No, it's, it, it exists now.

1504
02:03:43,770 --> 02:03:47,930
So we've got the policy now, okay, great, I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

1505
02:03:47,930 --> 02:03:49,010
Pandor to proceed now.

1506
02:03:49,370 --> 02:03:51,710
What, comments agreed, did, did, did, did, commissioner, oh.

1507
02:03:51,930 --> 02:03:54,770
Well, it cannot, it's, it's a little, okay.

1508
02:03:54,830 --> 02:04:00,330
You said you're creating it, or you've created it since this has since you've been in this investigation.

1509
02:04:01,310 --> 02:04:07,090
Or was this a policy that was already in place prior to prior to the investigation?

1510
02:04:07,090 --> 02:04:13,690
I created standards of procedures in terms of how we would go forward with the investigation

1511
02:04:13,690 --> 02:04:18,850
so that it would be transparent in terms of what to be expected.

1512
02:04:20,820 --> 02:04:26,790
So this is something that was already a part of the county policy, or once this came

1513
02:04:26,790 --> 02:04:31,410
about then before you went into the investigation, you created the policy.

1514
02:04:31,410 --> 02:04:39,030
I wouldn't consider it as a policy per se, standards of procedures, meaning in terms

1515
02:04:39,030 --> 02:04:44,230
of how, like, departmental procedures for investigations.

1516
02:04:45,270 --> 02:04:49,610
Okay, so that was created, and I'm just trying to understand, so that was created.

1517
02:04:51,950 --> 02:04:56,010
Once you knew that you were going to have to do an investigation and then you created

1518
02:04:56,010 --> 02:04:59,970
that those standards are you're saying that, that was...

1519
02:05:04,020 --> 02:05:15,920
No, it wasn't months, but I realized that there were no standards of procedures in place, so I created those.

1520
02:05:16,460 --> 02:05:23,420
Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much. Now, Commissioner Greenfers, didn't Commissioner Woods or how you would like to?

1521
02:05:23,420 --> 02:05:31,420
No, I just wanted to be clear that I am too in favor of an external investigation when it gets to that point.

1522
02:05:31,940 --> 02:05:42,980
Only thing that I'm saying is allow HR to do their due diligence and present us whatever it is that they have and we can go to the next step.

1523
02:05:43,820 --> 02:05:46,920
There's going to be several steps to this. I'm very sure.

1524
02:05:47,860 --> 02:05:51,340
We have to allow the process to initiate.

1525
02:05:51,340 --> 02:05:59,380
But what what gives me heartburn and I like you said speak with elephant room the last guy did that he got fire on spot

1526
02:06:00,800 --> 02:06:04,300
It's be realistic and I'm looking right at him right now. I ain't calling my name

1527
02:06:04,300 --> 02:06:08,100
But last guy did that he gave us some information

1528
02:06:09,160 --> 02:06:13,580
Turn it say do not never fight about it. What up? What up? What up? All right? Don't really get it comes to the board

1529
02:06:14,280 --> 02:06:17,620
Soon left the meeting that guy got fired the same day

1530
02:06:18,100 --> 02:06:23,000
So who will be a fool to, I mean, go out and mention in, because I don't want to do that because

1531
02:06:23,000 --> 02:06:28,060
I'm a one, you put the people at risk of losing the job, I'm all friends, people don't

1532
02:06:28,060 --> 02:06:28,940
need to lose the job in the house.

1533
02:06:29,720 --> 02:06:35,680
So I prefer to do an extraordinary investigation so people will not know who is, who is working

1534
02:06:35,680 --> 02:06:41,380
to trust and come within, because now they put in people jobs at risk, not children, I'm

1535
02:06:41,380 --> 02:06:44,560
just saying in general, I don't want to put you at risk, I don't want to put no one at

1536
02:06:44,560 --> 02:06:44,840
risk.

1537
02:06:44,840 --> 02:06:46,420
because people don't want to lose a job on the house,

1538
02:06:46,900 --> 02:06:48,400
just because somebody can get rid of them,

1539
02:06:48,480 --> 02:06:49,080
all fairness.

1540
02:06:49,940 --> 02:06:52,680
So, we did that less than a few months ago.

1541
02:06:53,880 --> 02:06:55,200
Probably the beginning is, I'm not sure.

1542
02:06:55,940 --> 02:06:57,960
The guy said this, he got fired.

1543
02:06:59,400 --> 02:07:01,220
Cause he decided to talk in speed.

1544
02:07:02,060 --> 02:07:03,180
And so he got fired like that.

1545
02:07:03,280 --> 02:07:04,180
So, I don't want to put people,

1546
02:07:04,640 --> 02:07:07,000
life is too beautiful to begin fired on the house.

1547
02:07:07,300 --> 02:07:09,340
So, I don't think the boys should have no inter investigation.

1548
02:07:09,980 --> 02:07:11,620
I think they can do their own thing,

1549
02:07:11,880 --> 02:07:13,360
they can have the inter investigation they want to.

1550
02:07:13,760 --> 02:07:17,900
But I think that we should have an external investigation deal.

1551
02:07:17,980 --> 02:07:24,400
I personally trust them that it will not be, at least they can have some legal

1552
02:07:25,080 --> 02:07:27,100
ramifications because we put them in that position.

1553
02:07:27,640 --> 02:07:29,160
That's just my home of opinion.

1554
02:07:29,760 --> 02:07:30,840
I don't want to put them out like that.

1555
02:07:31,280 --> 02:07:32,620
Do we have a motion on the floor real quick?

1556
02:07:33,140 --> 02:07:33,660
Motion for one.

1557
02:07:33,660 --> 02:07:34,540
I have another comment.

1558
02:07:34,960 --> 02:07:37,660
Okay, another comment you can move forward from that point.

1559
02:07:38,020 --> 02:07:39,000
Yeah, no, ma'am.

1560
02:07:39,280 --> 02:07:42,660
I've had to stand there a lot of times and that's a very difficult place to be.

1561
02:07:42,660 --> 02:07:48,280
Actually, what I'm trying to say, it protects the employee.

1562
02:07:48,440 --> 02:07:51,940
That's what we're talking about because an employee may want to invoke their rights.

1563
02:07:52,700 --> 02:07:58,500
If an employee is in an internal, and that internal could lead them into criminal prosecution,

1564
02:07:59,300 --> 02:08:01,340
you're not being fair to the employee.

1565
02:08:01,940 --> 02:08:09,620
And I say that as upset as I am about the allegations, that employee still deserves the right to have

1566
02:08:09,620 --> 02:08:13,560
of those rights and vote if it's a criminal charge.

1567
02:08:14,300 --> 02:08:21,540
So I just want it to be clear that as a board to the public that we do not have a problem

1568
02:08:21,540 --> 02:08:25,340
that an outside law enforcement agency would look at this.

1569
02:08:25,720 --> 02:08:34,120
They may come back and say, hey, yeah, it might just be politics, or they may come back and

1570
02:08:34,120 --> 02:08:40,580
say no, this employee has committed a crime, and then they should move forward.

1571
02:08:41,740 --> 02:08:47,640
That's my take, and that would be my motion when people have stopped discussing it.

1572
02:08:47,960 --> 02:08:51,440
I mean, Major, I want to do that, I mean, echo something here real quick.

1573
02:08:52,640 --> 02:08:59,260
The question here to me, the question is, in order for them to adopt policy that affect the board,

1574
02:08:59,260 --> 02:09:04,020
Or doesn't the board got to approve that first, approve that policy before we come into law?

1575
02:09:04,940 --> 02:09:09,120
No, you can ask them out from the attorney perspective.

1576
02:09:09,620 --> 02:09:19,940
On time before they make this, because when you change policies, if I thought the board got to approve those policies when you change it.

1577
02:09:20,120 --> 02:09:21,880
So I'll just curious about that.

1578
02:09:22,160 --> 02:09:27,700
So if we did have a policy, did the board approve that policy and when did we approve it?

1579
02:09:27,700 --> 02:09:33,760
That's what I'm not saying in general, I'm from a commissional standpoint, Ms. Kennedy, turning it.

1580
02:09:36,600 --> 02:09:41,180
If I understand your question, your question is, is there a policy as related to the investigation?

1581
02:09:41,620 --> 02:09:41,920
Yes, sir.

1582
02:09:42,760 --> 02:09:44,700
I'd have to defer to Ms. Burrows on that.

1583
02:09:45,080 --> 02:09:49,320
Okay, then does the board get to prove that policy before that happens?

1584
02:09:49,900 --> 02:09:50,340
I'll just curious.

1585
02:09:50,620 --> 02:09:56,260
If we're going to make modifications with certain things, do we have to prove that policy before it coming to effect?

1586
02:09:56,480 --> 02:09:56,960
I'll just curious.

1587
02:09:56,960 --> 02:09:59,960
If it's a policy, you would have to approve it if she had...

1588
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:29,980
As internal operating procedures, by which he conducts visits or investigations, I don't believe that would have to come before the board. So it's a question of which one it is. I would not. I want to talk Ms. Burrows on an idea. I want to be respectful on that situation. All fairness to you. Mr. Miss County Administrator, do we have a policy in place? If we do have a policy, the board approved that policy. But they said we have one. Everything else that we did the board approved that policy. I just curious about that.

1589
02:10:30,960 --> 02:10:39,940
Mr. Chairman, the HR director and the attorney got together and agreed on how to approach the investigation.

1590
02:10:40,680 --> 02:10:42,700
I think that is what she is talking about.

1591
02:10:43,700 --> 02:10:46,140
Yes, how to approach the investigation.

1592
02:10:47,160 --> 02:10:47,680
And may I?

1593
02:10:48,080 --> 02:10:48,380
Yes, sir.

1594
02:10:48,600 --> 02:10:58,470
Mr. Chairman, I've contacted local law enforcement and said we will come to you with a set of facts

1595
02:10:58,470 --> 02:11:07,530
When this investigation is over, once we finish, we need for you to prove if there is or is not.

1596
02:11:08,530 --> 02:11:16,370
What we hear in the streets and what the documentation may show could be something, could be nothing.

1597
02:11:16,790 --> 02:11:19,270
That's for the fight finding to happen.

1598
02:11:19,270 --> 02:11:31,270
We still need to gather those documents and present them, the attorney and HR writing will write the response, the final response.

1599
02:11:31,910 --> 02:11:47,010
And that information will be presented to whatever agencies, we've looked at doing our own audits as well because it is internal policy that we need to fix.

1600
02:11:47,010 --> 02:11:49,550
If there's something wrong, we know there's something wrong.

1601
02:11:50,230 --> 02:11:51,390
How do we fix it?

1602
02:11:51,430 --> 02:11:52,630
How do we go about it?

1603
02:11:53,270 --> 02:11:59,190
The question is, how does this situation relate and how do we deal with it?

1604
02:12:01,660 --> 02:12:05,620
Thank you, Mr. County Ministry of Commissioner Simpkins.

1605
02:12:07,180 --> 02:12:11,040
And I hope I'm not, Mr. Turner, you can tell me if I am.

1606
02:12:11,040 --> 02:12:22,240
My problem is there was board a policy was not followed as it relates to us, right?

1607
02:12:22,980 --> 02:12:28,720
The county administrator is doing his investigation for his employee, right?

1608
02:12:29,440 --> 02:12:38,580
There was a policy that was not followed as it relates to the board of county commissioners.

1609
02:12:39,480 --> 02:12:43,180
There's no investigation that needs to be held as it relates to that.

1610
02:12:43,520 --> 02:12:45,360
We already know the answer to that.

1611
02:12:46,280 --> 02:12:53,440
So we need to determine what we're going to do as it relates to that, like Mr. Administrator

1612
02:12:53,440 --> 02:12:55,220
and deal with his employees.

1613
02:12:57,100 --> 02:13:05,900
But then we need to deal because something came to this agenda, something took place and

1614
02:13:05,900 --> 02:13:07,380
And we did not approve it.

1615
02:13:07,520 --> 02:13:10,040
And we know that we did not approve it.

1616
02:13:11,650 --> 02:13:13,510
Chair, this is kind of interesting.

1617
02:13:13,910 --> 02:13:14,650
I'll turn it on.

1618
02:13:14,930 --> 02:13:18,730
Without getting into a lot of detail about what the investigation involves,

1619
02:13:19,330 --> 02:13:21,410
that question is a legitimate question.

1620
02:13:22,270 --> 02:13:24,690
The account administrator has recused himself.

1621
02:13:24,850 --> 02:13:31,510
He's not involved in a day-to-day review of any matters that are involved here under my advice to him.

1622
02:13:31,510 --> 02:13:37,010
So, Dr. Burles is not providing him any information about what has occurred.

1623
02:13:38,170 --> 02:13:41,610
I think I can disclose this without any compromising.

1624
02:13:41,770 --> 02:13:44,270
He's actually been interviewed about the process.

1625
02:13:44,950 --> 02:13:49,490
So, I would tell you that in my opinion, the investigation has been thorough.

1626
02:13:50,930 --> 02:13:57,510
And again, we're, so whether you stay internal or go external or not, he is not involved

1627
02:13:57,510 --> 02:14:06,830
in the direction of the investigation, so whatever the outcome is, it's not going to be based on the input on the county administrator.

1628
02:14:07,270 --> 02:14:07,750
Just so everybody.

1629
02:14:07,890 --> 02:14:09,010
Hello, Mr. Commissioner.

1630
02:14:09,390 --> 02:14:10,270
One second, one second, one second.

1631
02:14:12,850 --> 02:14:17,730
When does the county attorney represent the county administrator?

1632
02:14:20,910 --> 02:14:28,570
How can you tell himself that without the board making that decision to relate that to him?

1633
02:14:29,450 --> 02:14:30,610
I'm just trying to figure that out.

1634
02:14:30,710 --> 02:14:37,730
It's getting me to have the desk listen to that comment, because I never heard, because

1635
02:14:37,730 --> 02:14:38,610
you represent us.

1636
02:14:39,310 --> 02:14:40,410
You don't represent him.

1637
02:14:41,070 --> 02:14:46,410
You can't say that he is the one who got to be away from this thing, it's offensive to

1638
02:14:46,410 --> 02:14:53,850
me as a board member, to hear you say that Mr. County turning, when you can tell him when

1639
02:14:53,850 --> 02:14:56,730
something going on that the board can be complicit, right,

1640
02:14:58,870 --> 02:14:59,790
it's nervous.

1641
02:15:30,000 --> 02:15:59,800
Should the board say this is my recommendations to do this. Then the board can instruct you to do that to give him advice. You don't, I've been on several boards, like I said. This is the first time in America. The first time I've heard that you give him recommendations, and you work for us, and he work for us. You put the representative board, because if staff come together and sue the board, based on you getting recommendations and cover him, now we get a major

1642
02:15:59,800 --> 02:16:07,580
the mayor lawsuit with the county, because now you put the staff at risk, but you're trying to take the county administrator.

1643
02:16:07,900 --> 02:16:12,500
Based on, that's just perception, I see it's true, that just perception of what you just said just then.

1644
02:16:13,040 --> 02:16:14,740
So, can you tell me this is in this county?

1645
02:16:14,900 --> 02:16:15,420
I have a question.

1646
02:16:15,840 --> 02:16:17,260
No, I'm the chairman.

1647
02:16:17,480 --> 02:16:19,420
I know, no, no, no,

1648
02:16:21,980 --> 02:16:21,980
no,

1649
02:16:24,780 --> 02:16:28,640
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, reason why I'm saying this, man, because people can lose jobs behind this.

1650
02:16:28,640 --> 02:16:33,200
I'm caring about the guy who finally got a job, worked for three years.

1651
02:16:33,940 --> 02:16:39,020
You know, he's making $15 an hour, he's trying to do his right, and he may have a question

1652
02:16:39,020 --> 02:16:39,340
whatever.

1653
02:16:39,860 --> 02:16:41,180
But he's not being protected.

1654
02:16:41,880 --> 02:16:49,400
But yet you tell him the kind of administrator without board approval to silence himself.

1655
02:16:50,540 --> 02:16:55,800
To me that's, I'm trying to be as fair with it, but it's kind of throwing me off the

1656
02:16:55,800 --> 02:16:56,720
wrong weight with that deal.

1657
02:16:58,180 --> 02:17:26,400
Can you explain how can you have the authority to maybe do to bypass the board and talk to him without board knowing anything about this is my first time but all fairness public disclosure is my first time in this conversation so can you can you please address that concern and I apologize being so emotion that's who I was a former head football coach so I'm not getting emotions I apologize for that so chair marriage fine. Yes sir.

1658
02:17:27,620 --> 02:17:32,340
First of all, there was never any intention to circumvent the board.

1659
02:17:33,860 --> 02:17:41,220
And there's not been any actions on my part that I consider to be protecting the county administrator.

1660
02:17:41,960 --> 02:17:43,540
Everything has been to the commentary.

1661
02:17:44,080 --> 02:17:49,060
What we've been involved in is trying to make sure the investigation wasn't compromised.

1662
02:17:49,060 --> 02:18:06,900
And so I have provided advice to miss barrels about what I thought would compromise the investigation, and since there was no clear understanding as to what the investigation would result in, I actually provided that advice today.

1663
02:18:07,700 --> 02:18:14,080
So there has been no attempt to circumvent the board, but this was a recent development that just occurred today.

1664
02:18:14,080 --> 02:18:16,240
But what my thinking is turning.

1665
02:18:18,720 --> 02:18:25,380
Why give, why, just, again, I don't have, I'm trying to figure this out.

1666
02:18:25,600 --> 02:18:33,220
Why give it to, why tell the kind of administrator, hey, we don't want you to see anything, but yeah, you go to the human resource director.

1667
02:18:34,240 --> 02:18:42,040
And, and, and, or human resource person go to the director, someone else, why you put the med risk, but you tell him the kind of administrator, he can't say nothing.

1668
02:18:42,040 --> 02:18:46,560
Why is that the case, I never heard, I'm just, that's not what happened, sir.

1669
02:18:46,940 --> 02:18:52,620
Well, you just said, just saying that you told him, he's, is now is under the, the direction

1670
02:18:52,620 --> 02:18:58,420
of, of the human resource, because you gave him, you told him that he can, again, I think

1671
02:18:58,420 --> 02:19:02,700
when you see the report, whether you go external or stay internal, it'll be clear.

1672
02:19:02,800 --> 02:19:05,880
These questions are actually being addressed in the action, the investigation itself.

1673
02:19:06,680 --> 02:19:11,480
And so every question that's been raised here is a part of what the investigation involves.

1674
02:19:11,480 --> 02:19:16,720
Well, that's great, I just had to ask that question.

1675
02:19:16,960 --> 02:19:23,880
I have a feeling what I want to need to have, but who's next, Mr. Dixon?

1676
02:19:26,460 --> 02:19:39,090
Let me make it very clear that the questions that were before the board were, was

1677
02:19:42,130 --> 02:19:46,290
their

1678
02:19:46,290 --> 02:19:51,630
We are initially, that they are initially looking at, county policy.

1679
02:19:52,110 --> 02:19:59,830
If county policy is leading to a violation of criminal law, then investigate.

1680
02:20:00,000 --> 02:20:24,080
Opposition will go that way. I have presented myself and said I'm available. I heard the words coming from and the insinuations. I'm smart enough to know, hey, put yourself out there. I'm out there. I was called for investigation for interview. I went and did my interview. The attorney did not direct me to quiet down a hush. That's not true. Appreciate that.

1681
02:20:25,900 --> 02:20:27,920
Commissioner Ho, sorry, Mr. Dick, you finished?

1682
02:20:28,200 --> 02:20:28,480
Yes, sir.

1683
02:20:28,700 --> 02:20:29,060
Thank you.

1684
02:20:29,540 --> 02:20:30,200
Yes, Commissioner.

1685
02:20:30,400 --> 02:20:30,800
Thank you.

1686
02:20:30,900 --> 02:20:34,620
I'm so happy that you recognized me and you are the chairman because we didn't have

1687
02:20:34,620 --> 02:20:35,360
anybody left.

1688
02:20:36,120 --> 02:20:36,420
Okay.

1689
02:20:36,600 --> 02:20:37,760
Now, let me say this.

1690
02:20:38,260 --> 02:20:38,660
Whoa.

1691
02:20:39,060 --> 02:20:39,460
Yeah.

1692
02:20:39,620 --> 02:20:40,640
And I mean just what I say.

1693
02:20:41,000 --> 02:20:41,120
Whoa.

1694
02:20:41,300 --> 02:20:41,700
Okay.

1695
02:20:41,780 --> 02:20:47,240
But now what I want to say is this, I agree with you doing an external audit if you, if that's

1696
02:20:47,240 --> 02:20:47,900
what you want to do.

1697
02:20:48,320 --> 02:20:49,660
I don't have any problem.

1698
02:20:53,260 --> 02:20:54,060
Excuse me.

1699
02:20:54,060 --> 02:20:55,840
We want to be listed to our commission hold speak.

1700
02:20:56,400 --> 02:20:56,880
Thank you very much.

1701
02:20:57,020 --> 02:20:57,880
Yes, I don't have any.

1702
02:20:57,940 --> 02:20:59,460
If you want to go ahead and make the motion,

1703
02:20:59,560 --> 02:21:01,060
like I said, I don't have any problem with it.

1704
02:21:01,360 --> 02:21:04,360
I'll talk to him to him, okay?

1705
02:21:05,040 --> 02:21:05,940
To the commissioner.

1706
02:21:06,280 --> 02:21:06,420
Yeah.

1707
02:21:06,880 --> 02:21:10,020
The reason I'm saying that is because he's the one that brought it up.

1708
02:21:10,360 --> 02:21:14,200
I do not have a problem with doing that, as I said before.

1709
02:21:14,620 --> 02:21:17,140
I just said, allow them to do their job.

1710
02:21:17,140 --> 02:21:20,300
But if you want to do that, then that's just a matter of a vote.

1711
02:21:20,300 --> 02:21:49,080
But what I wanted to say is this, I'm hoping that we continue to work together, and I would like for the person that hired any of those people not to be a part of the investigation, because if they're a part of the investigation, as Ms. Commissioner Woods knows, the person that may be involved in any kind of way, even if you just hired that person, you would like for them to step back so that way you can do the investigation, so that's not a problem.

1712
02:21:49,080 --> 02:21:56,480
What I really want to do is to say this, if we have had investigations before, so we

1713
02:21:56,480 --> 02:22:02,080
have plenty of policies in place, we've had everything from gas missing, and people

1714
02:22:02,080 --> 02:22:06,020
were getting gas, with other people's cards, we've had all that, we've had a couple of vehicles

1715
02:22:06,020 --> 02:22:06,480
missing.

1716
02:22:07,640 --> 02:22:10,540
You know, it's all kind of things have been going on over the years.

1717
02:22:11,820 --> 02:22:17,340
So now it's a thing of something that you need to fix, just like we have to fix those

1718
02:22:17,340 --> 02:22:18,180
things back then.

1719
02:22:18,800 --> 02:22:24,040
We had to fix them, put a computer on the gas pumps down there to keep people from getting

1720
02:22:24,040 --> 02:22:25,300
gas and they were supposed to get.

1721
02:22:26,020 --> 02:22:29,760
So there were several things that we did and you continuously do that, just like you

1722
02:22:29,760 --> 02:22:34,180
continuously clean your house because sooner or later something is going to happen.

1723
02:22:34,320 --> 02:22:34,960
So that's what you do.

1724
02:22:35,480 --> 02:22:37,500
As I said, I don't have a problem with doing it.

1725
02:22:38,040 --> 02:22:39,780
I just want to do a lot of them to do their job.

1726
02:22:39,920 --> 02:22:44,140
Mr. Larson used to do and look into situations with the county all the time when he was at

1727
02:22:44,140 --> 02:22:44,980
the office of Larson.

1728
02:22:45,520 --> 02:22:46,260
And that's what he did.

1729
02:22:47,040 --> 02:22:48,180
We have a problem with that.

1730
02:22:49,120 --> 02:22:52,100
So if whatever your motion is going to be, let's do it and keep moving.

1731
02:22:52,300 --> 02:22:53,200
Yes, and we will do that.

1732
02:22:53,340 --> 02:22:55,100
I'm talking to Mr. Woods.

1733
02:22:55,620 --> 02:22:56,440
I can't wait.

1734
02:22:56,920 --> 02:23:04,600
Mr. but thank you for your kind words, commissioner, commissioner of, commissioner of, commissioner of, commissioner of Woods, you have enough time.

1735
02:23:06,440 --> 02:23:11,060
So what I'm trying to say is, is I'm not talking policy.

1736
02:23:11,480 --> 02:23:12,980
Yes, I'm talking statutory.

1737
02:23:13,400 --> 02:23:14,100
Okay, my bad.

1738
02:23:14,100 --> 02:23:16,140
Okay, so I'm talking about criminal.

1739
02:23:16,360 --> 02:23:18,500
Some of these guys could face a criminal charge.

1740
02:23:19,320 --> 02:23:24,140
And even though our employee and we're upset with them, we still need to protect them.

1741
02:23:24,760 --> 02:23:26,040
That's my whole point.

1742
02:23:26,500 --> 02:23:31,020
And Mr. Administrator, which local law enforcement have you discussed this with?

1743
02:23:31,540 --> 02:23:32,060
Chair for the department.

1744
02:23:32,740 --> 02:23:33,500
The chair from self?

1745
02:23:34,000 --> 02:23:35,200
The Corporate.

1746
02:23:35,960 --> 02:23:36,320
The Colonel.

1747
02:23:37,320 --> 02:23:38,220
Okay, great.

1748
02:23:38,460 --> 02:23:38,800
Thank you.

1749
02:23:38,800 --> 02:23:53,940
But that is, my motion is, is that we would, as a board, ask the law enforcement authorities to come in and look at the situations that we have, are they illegal?

1750
02:23:55,480 --> 02:24:07,260
I think you should do that before you do the internal, because that guy, Mr. Attorney, who's answering to an internal, could in say something that would incriminate him.

1751
02:24:07,820 --> 02:24:24,280
That's truly not fair to the employee, and I know it takes longer, but in the end you have to take the manager out because he's the one that's going to make the, no, because it's the judge in the jury, he can't do the investigation and be the judge.

1752
02:24:25,260 --> 02:24:38,540
So, that is correct, but that is my motion that we ask for external law enforcement to see if there's been any Florida statues violated by county employees.

1753
02:24:41,180 --> 02:24:42,400
Mr. Chairman.

1754
02:24:42,480 --> 02:24:43,480
It's a motion, I'll second.

1755
02:24:45,040 --> 02:24:46,760
You know, extra investigation, right?

1756
02:24:47,140 --> 02:24:48,980
Law enforcement, not on policy.

1757
02:24:49,320 --> 02:24:51,340
I think Ms. Burles is on top of the policy.

1758
02:24:51,660 --> 02:24:54,760
We just need to have someone to see if we violated

1759
02:24:54,760 --> 02:24:55,460
Florida's statute.

1760
02:24:55,980 --> 02:24:58,780
I think that we're going to do that.

1761
02:24:59,080 --> 02:24:59,980
We don't need to do a little.

1762
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:29,080
Local, the local officers and guests in Canada, we've got to go to higher than that. If, if, if, if you want to be up, because right now you want these everybody in there, you know, we want to make sure they have a non-bice thing. If we're going to do a list, do it the right way, don't, don't put the sheriff and his people in that, I think we need to go a little higher. He may opt out because of our relationship, but it would not be, it would not be the first time that we have investigated the county.

1763
02:25:29,940 --> 02:25:30,920
It wouldn't be the first.

1764
02:25:31,720 --> 02:25:37,780
Now he may in turn ask that it be F-D-L-E, F-B-I, or whomever.

1765
02:25:37,960 --> 02:25:38,140
Okay.

1766
02:25:38,620 --> 02:25:39,580
Because I want to put...

1767
02:25:39,580 --> 02:25:41,100
You know, we got relationships there.

1768
02:25:41,200 --> 02:25:41,900
So I didn't want to put people...

1769
02:25:41,900 --> 02:25:42,020
Sure.

1770
02:25:42,520 --> 02:25:44,760
People of relationships don't want that.

1771
02:25:47,200 --> 02:25:48,780
But again, let me say something else too.

1772
02:25:49,500 --> 02:25:51,220
When you're wrong, you're wrong, you're right, you're right, right?

1773
02:25:51,900 --> 02:25:54,940
I must say, I was high and disturbed.

1774
02:25:55,160 --> 02:25:56,580
Because we know we got kids looking to us.

1775
02:25:56,580 --> 02:26:01,900
but we as grown as we do something wrong, you got to go out and correct that.

1776
02:26:02,320 --> 02:26:03,880
Let me correct some of the attorneys just in.

1777
02:26:04,620 --> 02:26:06,740
What Major Wood just said just in, he makes sense.

1778
02:26:07,000 --> 02:26:10,100
He answered my question when I was asking.

1779
02:26:10,580 --> 02:26:14,840
I've never seen it before, the first time being a party situation.

1780
02:26:15,460 --> 02:26:19,460
And what Major Wood said, we got to take the county administrator out of the equation, right?

1781
02:26:20,160 --> 02:26:25,780
In order for him to be non-vice with the thing, so I want to put it out there so

1782
02:26:25,780 --> 02:26:28,320
So we can be up front, because they ain't trying to go out to anybody.

1783
02:26:28,740 --> 02:26:32,100
I just want to make sure I get the right information, because we got kids looking at things.

1784
02:26:32,240 --> 02:26:33,720
We want to make sure we do things the right way.

1785
02:26:34,320 --> 02:26:36,980
Major, that's all, you finished answering your question.

1786
02:26:36,980 --> 02:26:41,840
I made a motion, and I made a second, and a second, right?

1787
02:26:42,300 --> 02:26:47,460
Before we said it, we have a citizen audience we like to speak, Mr. Derrick, a lot.

1788
02:26:55,470 --> 02:26:58,590
I think Barclay is like this.

1789
02:26:59,050 --> 02:27:00,450
I just want to clarify something.

1790
02:27:01,110 --> 02:27:08,030
When Mr. Dickson called me and I gave him clear direction, I said, sound like you have some criminal overtures here.

1791
02:27:08,690 --> 02:27:14,470
It's like we were handled and employee at Sheriff's Office who is involved in a criminal investigation.

1792
02:27:15,150 --> 02:27:16,150
It's real simple.

1793
02:27:16,450 --> 02:27:17,170
You do two things.

1794
02:27:17,170 --> 02:27:19,090
You have two separate investigations.

1795
02:27:19,630 --> 02:27:27,230
You do an internal, you address policy violations, general order violations, and you do a criminal investigation.

1796
02:27:27,730 --> 02:27:42,570
Now, my recommendation was you can type FDLE, you separate them and you don't turn over anything from that administrative to that criminal because if you compel employees to give a statement, those statements are protected on the guarantee.

1797
02:27:42,570 --> 02:27:47,330
So, you can't use them in any criminal proceedings after that.

1798
02:27:47,550 --> 02:27:52,330
So, it's simple, it's a simple process with something like this when you have criminal

1799
02:27:52,330 --> 02:27:52,850
overtures.

1800
02:27:53,350 --> 02:27:58,170
You split it, you run your internal investigation, you run a criminal investigation.

1801
02:27:58,910 --> 02:28:02,470
Now, who you choose to do that criminal, that's up to this diocese here.

1802
02:28:03,290 --> 02:28:09,970
But my recommendation was contact FDLE to take the sheriff's office out of it because you

1803
02:28:09,970 --> 02:28:17,610
You are responsible for our budget, smart, and you haven't been good to us, so.

1804
02:28:17,650 --> 02:28:18,710
Yes, ma'am.

1805
02:28:18,850 --> 02:28:20,450
On that note, I have a seat.

1806
02:28:21,430 --> 02:28:22,870
Yeah, I want to get you in my mind, ma'am.

1807
02:28:24,110 --> 02:28:25,390
Yeah, I want to get my camera.

1808
02:28:25,650 --> 02:28:32,710
Next, again, please, Louis Voss, we want to be respectful again, Mr. Derek Lies.

1809
02:28:32,910 --> 02:28:33,710
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

1810
02:28:34,510 --> 02:28:38,570
You all have covered a lot of stuff but you haven't made any grounds in my opinion because

1811
02:28:38,570 --> 02:28:44,630
Because as I said there, I'm listening because I heard when Commissioner Woods first came forward, he said, allegations.

1812
02:28:45,110 --> 02:28:55,290
You all are yet to actually identify what the specific allegations are that are currently being investigated or perhaps will be investigated.

1813
02:28:55,690 --> 02:29:00,330
So I think you all will need to identify specifically what it is that you're all investigating.

1814
02:29:00,750 --> 02:29:05,450
Because when I first listen, I'm thinking is it the allegations of the purchase of expensive vehicles?

1815
02:29:05,450 --> 02:29:10,170
Is it the allegation of the selling of the vehicles without proud knowledge?

1816
02:29:10,570 --> 02:29:13,150
Is it the allegation of firing of employees?

1817
02:29:14,230 --> 02:29:18,930
Is it the allegations of the subsequent lawsuits after firing employees?

1818
02:29:19,390 --> 02:29:25,090
Is it an investigation into a conflict of interest where staff are holding two positions at the same time?

1819
02:29:25,770 --> 02:29:29,730
And maybe it's stealing time, is that the allegation that might be investigated?

1820
02:29:30,810 --> 02:29:38,370
Is it the allegation of paying for utilities at another location that was not county on property?

1821
02:29:38,730 --> 02:29:41,790
So I think if you all are going to be fair to us listening out here specifically,

1822
02:29:42,470 --> 02:29:46,070
what is it that you all are going to, or somebody is going to be investigating?

1823
02:29:46,650 --> 02:29:51,230
Now I heard that there's an internal investigation and perhaps an external investigation is

1824
02:29:51,230 --> 02:29:52,250
emotional on the floor.

1825
02:29:52,750 --> 02:29:57,690
But it seems as though that that would be duplicitous because what you find in one you may not find

1826
02:29:57,690 --> 02:29:58,150
in the other.

1827
02:29:59,430 --> 02:29:59,970
I'm going to do that.

1828
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:04,960
There are a lot of investigations. I have 40 years of HR experience. I've done this year in and year out.

1829
02:30:07,040 --> 02:30:30,780
It's tearing on insanity to have the HR director essentially investigate her boss asking her boss questions. What do you think is going to come out of that? That's not better. Her as you've been trying to say. It's not better. The county administrator is her boss. How can she really investigate her boss impartially and objectively?

1830
02:30:30,780 --> 02:30:31,960
That's going to be hard to do.

1831
02:30:32,480 --> 02:30:37,500
I tend to agree with the new commissioner, just take it outside, don't be duplicitous.

1832
02:30:37,780 --> 02:30:42,580
If it's an administrative thing, the administrator can handle his administrative, whatever it is

1833
02:30:42,580 --> 02:30:43,300
that he needs to handle.

1834
02:30:44,040 --> 02:30:48,540
Commissioners simply can mention the fact that you all have yet another issue that is the policy

1835
02:30:48,540 --> 02:30:53,960
violation, not to mention the criminal repercussions that may come out of this.

1836
02:30:55,600 --> 02:31:01,080
So likewise, you all mentioned policy because I wanted to know what that policy was, and

1837
02:31:01,080 --> 02:31:03,280
if you have voted on that thing, somebody brought that out.

1838
02:31:03,340 --> 02:31:05,280
I don't think that you all have such a policy.

1839
02:31:05,280 --> 02:31:09,120
You might have desperate procedures or some procedures you follow, but that's not going

1840
02:31:09,120 --> 02:31:14,940
to trump a form of policy that you have nor will it trump what Florida statue say if there's

1841
02:31:14,940 --> 02:31:16,140
some criminal things going on.

1842
02:31:16,360 --> 02:31:22,600
So I think you all would do yourselves a great service if you allowed an outside entity,

1843
02:31:23,340 --> 02:31:25,940
And I, again, agree with the Colonel, too.

1844
02:31:26,400 --> 02:31:30,620
Outside of the Sheriff's Office, because there is that interaction with you all.

1845
02:31:30,720 --> 02:31:36,780
You have to have somebody who's going to conduct an investigation without any partiality whatsoever.

1846
02:31:37,180 --> 02:31:41,660
So the administrator can be given a fair shot, his staff will be given a fair shot.

1847
02:31:42,040 --> 02:31:47,060
Other than that, you all are going to muddy this thing up, cloud it up, and it's going to be all for note.

1848
02:31:47,420 --> 02:31:48,040
Thank you so much.

1849
02:31:48,040 --> 02:32:00,540
I think I'm just trying to have a chair, and this is a public meeting, and what I'm about to say is cannot be disputed.

1850
02:32:01,820 --> 02:32:14,380
If you go from a investigation, non-criminal to allegations of criminal investigation, we have to say it's allegedly criminal behavior.

1851
02:32:14,380 --> 02:32:38,620
We cannot state that it's criminal, so on behalf of the board, I'm making the statement that there has been no statements from the board stating that any criminal activity has occurred, that it was allegedly criminal activity, so that there is no concern or anyone can say that the board had stated that there has actually been criminal activity occurring.

1852
02:32:38,620 --> 02:32:41,520
As we all know in the United States of America,

1853
02:32:41,700 --> 02:32:43,320
you're innocent and temporal and guilty.

1854
02:32:43,760 --> 02:32:45,560
So this statement is on the record,

1855
02:32:45,560 --> 02:32:48,760
so no one can say that this board stated

1856
02:32:48,760 --> 02:32:50,540
that there was actual criminal activity.

1857
02:32:51,440 --> 02:32:53,040
So whatever you want to do beyond that,

1858
02:32:53,040 --> 02:32:54,020
that one, that state.

1859
02:32:54,080 --> 02:32:55,760
Mr. Turner, I really thank you for that too,

1860
02:32:55,840 --> 02:32:57,400
as well, because you're a job to take the board.

1861
02:32:57,800 --> 02:32:59,380
I appreciate you staying there.

1862
02:33:01,880 --> 02:33:04,840
So we have a motion on the floor, right?

1863
02:33:05,400 --> 02:33:09,900
And now, the reason why we couldn't address that concern,

1864
02:33:11,080 --> 02:33:13,800
be specific because we want to make sure we protect.

1865
02:33:14,900 --> 02:33:18,420
You said we want to keep it, because you're still on the investigation, we didn't want to.

1866
02:33:19,260 --> 02:33:34,400
Well, you do have a recommendation and you might want to ask what, if he wants to consider it, you have a recommendation to conduct two investigation simultaneously and keep them separate from each other so that your administrative investigation can occur in the criminal investigation can occur.

1867
02:33:34,400 --> 02:33:37,380
And it was stated that that is a normal process.

1868
02:33:37,820 --> 02:33:40,500
Okay, so you might want to have a discussion about that with the board.

1869
02:33:42,520 --> 02:33:44,520
All right, well, we've got to call a question now.

1870
02:33:44,820 --> 02:33:49,620
So we got the motion in a second, all in favor saw it.

1871
02:33:50,680 --> 02:33:52,640
And we want to pose.

1872
02:33:53,460 --> 02:33:54,280
All right, five of vote.

1873
02:33:57,300 --> 02:34:01,260
All right, next item 12, Mr. Chairman.

1874
02:34:01,620 --> 02:34:02,540
Item 12?

1875
02:34:03,020 --> 02:34:03,460
I've got a quote.

1876
02:34:03,560 --> 02:34:03,900
I've got a quote.

1877
02:34:05,180 --> 02:34:06,340
No updates from clerk.

1878
02:34:06,340 --> 02:34:09,840
All right, number 13, the kind of attorney?

1879
02:34:15,980 --> 02:34:16,740
Microphone, please.

1880
02:34:17,860 --> 02:34:21,540
Thank you, commissions, I have a presentation to make.

1881
02:34:22,880 --> 02:34:26,520
As we've heard, there have been some concerns about the legal billing that has occurred.

1882
02:34:27,440 --> 02:34:31,840
And I've been keeping track of what I've done and why I've done it since I started here.

1883
02:34:32,860 --> 02:34:38,120
So I want to just take a time to tell you what's going on and give you some updates and tell you where we're going.

1884
02:34:41,180 --> 02:34:49,340
I'll be the first to admit that when I came on board, the billing that I'm seeing here is more than what I expected and anticipated.

1885
02:34:50,840 --> 02:34:58,520
And there are reasons why the first thing I can tell you, I've been practicing law for 43 years.

1886
02:34:58,520 --> 02:34:59,420
Uh,

1887
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:29,260
In Commissioner Wood, I mentioned that I was a state attorney. When I went into the state attorney's office, I got a dual assignment. I had a full felony case load, and I had a juvenile case load. I went into the deputy general council for the business regulation. I managed five lawyers, and I had a case load. I went in to be the FDOT general council. It had an $8 billion budget, had some 20 lawyers working for me, and I had a case load.

1888
02:35:30,240 --> 02:35:36,160
In my 43 years of practicing law, I've never seen a backlog of cases like as I have right

1889
02:35:36,160 --> 02:35:42,120
now that I've been having to work on, it is absolutely unbelievable.

1890
02:35:43,560 --> 02:35:48,960
First of all, I have a marketing agreement that had been sitting out since February

1891
02:35:48,960 --> 02:35:54,560
of this year, and it should have been done before I got here, but it needed to be done so

1892
02:35:54,560 --> 02:35:55,980
I worked on the marketing agreement.

1893
02:35:55,980 --> 02:36:01,780
Now, you would have thought that the marketing agreement would have been in close to complete form,

1894
02:36:01,780 --> 02:36:04,980
but it was practically not done at all.

1895
02:36:05,040 --> 02:36:07,040
So I had to start from scratch to get that done.

1896
02:36:08,120 --> 02:36:11,600
Then, as you noticed tonight, we had a waste pro agreement.

1897
02:36:12,180 --> 02:36:18,680
If that agreement had not been done, you have no garbage collection services for the county.

1898
02:36:19,380 --> 02:36:23,480
So this agreement terminates on December 31st of 2024.

1899
02:36:24,300 --> 02:36:52,340
So, they administrative charge me with going forward, and doing negotiations to get this done, I'm happy that we got some good results for the county, but this was a backlog that should have been done before I got here, and you can see where I'm going here, if these items had been done before I got here, then my buildings would have been lower, but because this work was pending and had to be done for the benefit of the county, my buildings were higher.

1900
02:36:53,060 --> 02:37:02,020
I still have a $3,618,000 agreement that I have to work out for the county for the Boards and Girls Club.

1901
02:37:02,520 --> 02:37:10,220
This item has been pending before I got here, and I haven't been able to get to it because of the work that had to be done before I got to this item.

1902
02:37:11,560 --> 02:37:16,620
I had to work on a county health department fuel agreements that had been pending and got that done.

1903
02:37:16,620 --> 02:37:30,460
We then had a graphic designs contract that had been pending since February, that should have been done before I got here, and this is the theme that is going on over and over and over again, and there's only one result.

1904
02:37:30,980 --> 02:37:35,560
If this work had been done before I got here, then my billings would have been lower.

1905
02:37:35,940 --> 02:37:39,000
But because the work wasn't done, there was no choice.

1906
02:37:39,000 --> 02:37:46,720
I can't not let the county be properly represented legally and have these bills, these buildings, or contracts expire.

1907
02:37:47,820 --> 02:37:53,580
Right now, I've had to go in on the public safety complex that is outstanding.

1908
02:37:54,260 --> 02:38:01,220
We've had a successful lobbying effort for $16,900 and

1909
02:38:02,280 --> 02:38:07,220
we were not able to get the professional services contract out.

1910
02:38:07,220 --> 02:38:22,700
It's been pending since I think March, and that's nine months, February's 10 months, and I've got into that, and I've got that approval, just coming back on the agenda on December 19th, and that agreement should have been done before I got here.

1911
02:38:25,830 --> 02:38:33,650
I just finished up and you approved on the last meeting the auditing services contract. That contract had expired.

1912
02:38:34,310 --> 02:38:42,290
So had I not gotten that one approved, you're not going to be in compliance with state government because you don't have an auditing service in place.

1913
02:38:47,300 --> 02:39:05,300
Regarding economic development, there is an RFP that I have to review that looks at development of the Pat Thomas Land for lease or sale, which is a major economic boost for the county, but I haven't been able to get to it based on all the other backlog work that I have to work on.

1914
02:39:05,300 --> 02:39:09,360
It's my goal to get that one done toward the end of this month.

1915
02:39:10,540 --> 02:39:17,980
There is a grant award for the Tata Huchi Library expansion to construct a telehealth career center.

1916
02:39:18,700 --> 02:39:23,940
And I don't think I've worked on that one yet either, so that's another one that has to be worked on.

1917
02:39:24,780 --> 02:39:32,580
Now you have these items that haven't been done, the ordinances need to be updated.

1918
02:39:32,580 --> 02:39:39,080
right now, if you go into the municode and pull up the ordinances for Lyon for

1919
02:39:39,080 --> 02:39:45,620
Gaston County, and you go to TVC, it's section three, but the numbering for

1920
02:39:45,620 --> 02:39:51,240
TVC is two point this, two point that, two point the other. If you look at the

1921
02:39:51,240 --> 02:39:55,140
ordinances generally, the concern that you all have raised about policies and

1922
02:39:55,140 --> 02:39:59,560
procedures and ordinances, almost all of the ordinances in the county are out of

1923
02:39:59,560 --> 02:39:59,780
day.

1924
02:40:00,590 --> 02:40:05,110
And they need to be updated and hasn't been done.

1925
02:40:09,210 --> 02:40:30,570
Now, the other part is, and this is an awkward conversation for me. Any lawyer that's been in business for a long time at some point doesn't have a client anymore. And when they don't have that client, they orderly transfer files from where they are to the new attorney on board. I have yet to have a

1926
02:40:30,570 --> 02:40:33,110
meeting with the previous county attorney.

1927
02:40:34,290 --> 02:40:39,410
I called him up to have a meeting to talk about what fouls he had and his response to me

1928
02:40:39,410 --> 02:40:43,330
was that if I need something, let him know.

1929
02:40:44,010 --> 02:40:48,770
Now just so you understand on the surface, that sounds perfectly normal, but this is a

1930
02:40:48,770 --> 02:40:55,230
crisis management approach to doing legal work because when I figure out that something's

1931
02:40:55,230 --> 02:40:57,850
a problem, it's a crisis.

1932
02:40:58,330 --> 02:41:11,090
He was supposed to do a hand-off to me and give me all the cases so that I can figure out where we are, give me a status update, and then I can then make an orderly decision about how to handle the workload for the county.

1933
02:41:11,550 --> 02:41:22,990
But since I've gotten nothing from him practically, and Mr. Pittman by the way has tried to assist me in this, and he gave me his files, but it was inadequate for me to be able to understand where we were.

1934
02:41:22,990 --> 02:41:31,550
So I'm in the process of having to rebuild every single legal matter that I'm doing to represent the county.

1935
02:41:31,970 --> 02:41:34,290
So that result in higher billing.

1936
02:41:37,410 --> 02:41:38,690
I have to tell you,

1937
02:41:42,300 --> 02:41:45,480
when I just went through all the different entities that I represented.

1938
02:41:47,100 --> 02:41:53,020
And all of my experience, I have never, ever had a public records lawsuit.

1939
02:41:53,020 --> 02:41:58,840
I can't get into the details of this, but I've never had a public records lawsuit.

1940
02:41:59,600 --> 02:42:03,740
Gatson County right now has a public records lawsuit.

1941
02:42:04,300 --> 02:42:08,320
And it's not because the board has said that they don't want to provide records.

1942
02:42:08,940 --> 02:42:16,360
It's because that it wasn't handled in a way that prevented the lawsuit from occurring without pointing fingers more specifically.

1943
02:42:17,220 --> 02:42:30,300
And so, I have, I'm involved in a hearing that's going to occur in January with a very reputable law firm after the Fin the county on a public records lawsuit.

1944
02:42:30,780 --> 02:42:33,940
I hope you let that sink in, it's a public records lawsuit.

1945
02:42:34,200 --> 02:42:36,200
We'll require to turn over public records.

1946
02:42:36,600 --> 02:42:39,020
You don't have public record lawsuits.

1947
02:42:40,020 --> 02:42:49,840
So in the first time in my life, I'm involved in a public records lawsuit and I have no cooperation from the prior attorney helping me understand what's going on with the lawsuit.

1948
02:42:50,740 --> 02:42:52,960
So of course it's going to result in higher billing.

1949
02:42:57,560 --> 02:43:01,880
I'll tell you a couple more things and then I'm done because there's more, but I'm just be done with this.

1950
02:43:02,700 --> 02:43:08,440
I brief you all as you know, every meeting before you come here so you can be discussed policy and not legal issues.

1951
02:43:08,440 --> 02:43:11,900
I have never billed for conversations with you.

1952
02:43:12,360 --> 02:43:20,680
Because you should have the right to talk to me freely and not have sticker shock at the end of the conversation when you see your bills at the end of that.

1953
02:43:21,020 --> 02:43:24,000
So I have never billed for conversations with you and no real line.

1954
02:43:24,420 --> 02:43:34,220
The only time I will ever bill is if we're involved in, for instance, this public records hearing and you've got to testify and I've got to prep you for that, then I would actually have to bill for that.

1955
02:43:34,220 --> 02:43:40,580
But the other thing you need to be aware of is I don't bill when I talk to the county administrator about what's going on in the county.

1956
02:43:40,980 --> 02:43:44,460
I bill for what advances the legal matters for the county.

1957
02:43:45,600 --> 02:43:48,620
So there's some cleanup that has to be done in this county.

1958
02:43:50,360 --> 02:43:53,860
It's not of my makeup, but it has to be done.

1959
02:43:54,060 --> 02:43:57,440
If I weren't here today at some point, it's going to have to be cleaned up.

1960
02:43:57,880 --> 02:44:01,280
The county's legal work is not improper for it.

1961
02:44:01,280 --> 02:44:04,220
So, I just want to put that on the record for the commission.

1962
02:44:08,000 --> 02:44:09,900
Ms. Commissioner, Simpkins?

1963
02:44:11,560 --> 02:44:13,860
Mr. Attorney.

1964
02:44:14,560 --> 02:44:14,940
Attorney.

1965
02:44:18,280 --> 02:44:23,080
The contracts, and there might be a question for the administrator.

1966
02:44:23,920 --> 02:44:30,020
Were those contracts or these contracts provided to the previous attorney, they just were not

1967
02:44:30,020 --> 02:44:30,580
completed?

1968
02:44:34,460 --> 02:44:45,820
If you could send me those emails where you send all of those emails of those contracts that we're sending so that I can take a look at those.

1969
02:44:47,980 --> 02:44:58,280
And with you just bringing that, that's a conversation and that's not on you but that's a conversation that should have been had.

1970
02:44:58,280 --> 02:44:59,880
We

1971
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:15,740
The previous attorney was sitting here as it related to contracts, not being completed. So, if I could get all those emails, that would be, that would be great.

1972
02:45:36,150 --> 02:45:37,430
Commissioner, do you hear what I said?

1973
02:45:37,610 --> 02:45:42,170
Do you want a special meet Monday that we can just, you know, because we just have a quick

1974
02:45:42,170 --> 02:45:45,910
meet too, so just for about six, it's okay, okay, cool.

1975
02:45:46,410 --> 02:45:47,790
Mr. Commissioner, hold.

1976
02:45:48,150 --> 02:45:48,330
Yes.

1977
02:45:48,570 --> 02:45:48,910
Thank you.

1978
02:45:49,850 --> 02:45:54,730
As I said before on this item, and I don't know if you were here, Commissioner.

1979
02:45:56,450 --> 02:46:02,910
Seconds, once before I brought in a stack of papers this high, and I said these are some

1980
02:46:02,910 --> 02:46:09,890
concerns that we have with that and that I gave each of the commissioners here a copy

1981
02:46:09,890 --> 02:46:16,810
of that because I was monitoring a lot of these things and that's why I said for

1982
02:46:18,990 --> 02:46:20,370
this

1983
02:46:20,370 --> 02:46:27,690
particular job you have you align more with the state than you are with the cities and

1984
02:46:27,690 --> 02:46:33,010
what you what we have to do we have a lot of contracts we have a housing that for road

1985
02:46:33,010 --> 02:46:39,330
bridge, engineering and all of that. And so what I was saying is, can we just get them

1986
02:46:39,330 --> 02:46:45,810
caught up? And this is previously. So this has been going on for every bit of two years.

1987
02:46:46,810 --> 02:46:51,390
So what I'm saying, I'm not not questioning anything. So I'm just telling you a little bit about

1988
02:46:51,390 --> 02:46:58,550
what went on. I call Mr. Pittman. I talked with Mr. Pittman several times. Okay. So this was not

1989
02:46:58,550 --> 02:47:05,190
That's something where we had to think about this, but the actuals had to be taken and that's

1990
02:47:05,190 --> 02:47:10,130
why they were taken at the end of last year, when people started saying, you made these

1991
02:47:10,130 --> 02:47:15,310
changes, you did this, you did that, it wasn't that automatic, because this stuff had already

1992
02:47:16,030 --> 02:47:16,550
happened.

1993
02:47:16,970 --> 02:47:23,010
Then we had to go out and go after some other legal, I mean some legal team.

1994
02:47:23,910 --> 02:47:34,370
It wasn't, as I said to Mr. Wood, what I came here in 02, the two people that were here

1995
02:47:34,370 --> 02:47:38,490
in those positions, I wanted to make sure that I worked with them long enough so I could

1996
02:47:38,490 --> 02:47:43,750
find out what was going on, and that's what I did, and that's what you always do.

1997
02:47:44,110 --> 02:47:48,590
You learn the system before you get in there and do the things that you think you need to

1998
02:47:48,590 --> 02:47:49,050
be done.

1999
02:47:49,490 --> 02:47:51,170
But see those contracts will not wait.

2000
02:47:51,170 --> 02:47:56,650
When you mention that about the public service out there building, that money, that's $12 million.

2001
02:47:57,970 --> 02:48:01,790
Another one of those, that's I don't enjoy, I'm sorry, that's $12 million.

2002
02:48:02,510 --> 02:48:06,250
The one at Stephen School was 4.6 million.

2003
02:48:06,650 --> 02:48:08,590
The other part was 1.7 million.

2004
02:48:08,970 --> 02:48:12,510
Then you have the other that are coming up, that are 4 million and something.

2005
02:48:12,910 --> 02:48:15,110
You got housing and I serve on a hack.

2006
02:48:15,810 --> 02:48:17,490
I serve on that committee with nine counties.

2007
02:48:18,090 --> 02:48:26,050
And if we don't have that stuff in place in time, we do not get to housing when you see us renovating houses and all that.

2008
02:48:26,490 --> 02:48:31,370
So all of those contracts, even though they're coming from the federal government, they have to be approved.

2009
02:48:31,590 --> 02:48:34,670
They have to be shaped by your attorney, and all of this has to be done.

2010
02:48:35,230 --> 02:48:36,630
So it's not like weather.

2011
02:48:38,920 --> 02:48:40,740
It has to be done. That's our job.

2012
02:48:41,260 --> 02:48:43,240
So it's not a lack of dislike.

2013
02:48:43,240 --> 02:48:47,740
Why, is can you get the product out there in time to get in order to get the money?

2014
02:48:48,140 --> 02:48:55,660
We had to get two extensions on Stephen's school because it was slow walked.

2015
02:48:56,960 --> 02:49:01,220
So those are the things that you lose money and then there were a couple of other things

2016
02:49:01,220 --> 02:49:06,640
that we did not get funding for that we may have been able to get funding for and I still

2017
02:49:06,640 --> 02:49:07,720
say the same thing.

2018
02:49:08,400 --> 02:49:12,840
Even if we had a grant right or right in the grants, you have attorneys checking that to make

2019
02:49:12,840 --> 02:49:15,440
sure that we're getting what we're supposed to get.

2020
02:49:16,080 --> 02:49:22,780
So it's not a thing of being upset or not upset or like a dislike, it's a matter of just

2021
02:49:22,780 --> 02:49:23,800
getting the word done.

2022
02:49:24,660 --> 02:49:27,220
And that's it, Mr. Chairman, thank you.

2023
02:49:27,480 --> 02:49:27,900
Yes, ma'am.

2024
02:49:28,120 --> 02:49:29,120
Commissioner Green.

2025
02:49:29,120 --> 02:49:29,440
Yes, sir.

2026
02:49:30,740 --> 02:49:31,200
Commissioner Green.

2027
02:49:31,520 --> 02:49:31,840
Thank you.

2028
02:49:32,180 --> 02:49:39,640
Again, I just want to make sure that we are being very respectful and not that we're not

2029
02:49:39,640 --> 02:49:59,980
I've been transparent, but I think the attorney for giving his analysis but at the same time it's almost that individual of that firm is not here for representation of the commissioner asks for documentation and think so that she can do some due diligence on those contracts, and I'm just saying that the hope that we can kind of end the

2030
02:50:00,000 --> 02:50:06,680
There's peace of the conversation only because of the fact that the individual or that firm is not here being able to represent themselves. Thank you.

2031
02:50:30,000 --> 02:50:37,300
that hey, the kind of attorneys not bringing these things up front to us, so we won't miss these certain projects.

2032
02:50:37,860 --> 02:50:40,480
That's a question that I guess one may pose.

2033
02:50:41,460 --> 02:50:46,780
So that's a good question, Commissioner Williams, whoever asked that question early.

2034
02:50:47,780 --> 02:50:49,580
Anyone else who got next?

2035
02:50:51,060 --> 02:50:53,100
So the attorney, anyone else having the question for the attorney?

2036
02:50:54,860 --> 02:50:57,220
All right, so we have-

2037
02:51:01,820 --> 02:51:08,200
Mr. Chairman, may I please address some issues that have come up.

2038
02:51:10,630 --> 02:51:19,960
The attorney, let me be very frank, I have addressed both chairmen's over the last two

2039
02:51:19,960 --> 02:51:22,280
years about the attorney.

2040
02:51:23,920 --> 02:51:26,840
And say it, we're not getting these things.

2041
02:51:28,220 --> 02:51:36,240
There's been many nights where you all chastised me and said that attorney worked for you, and you made that very clear.

2042
02:51:37,240 --> 02:51:43,460
So it's not my job to question the attorney, that's your job, and you made it very clear to me that it was your job.

2043
02:51:44,720 --> 02:51:48,940
When I brought you issues, they were not, they were not accepted.

2044
02:51:50,240 --> 02:51:50,720
Now,

2045
02:51:52,900 --> 02:51:58,500
there were many nights when commissioners asked me, why was TJ preparing this package?

2046
02:51:58,660 --> 02:52:02,860
Why was Ms. Kielo preparing this package?

2047
02:52:03,240 --> 02:52:05,540
We couldn't get their attorney to prepare it.

2048
02:52:05,780 --> 02:52:06,760
Again, I'm going to ask.

2049
02:52:07,200 --> 02:52:09,340
I'm going to ask that we don't do this.

2050
02:52:09,460 --> 02:52:09,720
I'm just.

2051
02:52:09,900 --> 02:52:10,160
Mr. Chairman.

2052
02:52:10,560 --> 02:52:11,700
I'll put all fairness.

2053
02:52:12,000 --> 02:52:13,360
I got to be talking to the bus.

2054
02:52:13,820 --> 02:52:18,960
I know it sound fair though, but we got to let him speak because we just made the chairman's

2055
02:52:18,960 --> 02:52:19,260
own view.

2056
02:52:19,640 --> 02:52:20,100
I respect it.

2057
02:52:20,100 --> 02:52:28,960
So no matter how I may agree with Mr. Dixon, we've got to listen to him because it was, you know, the come seats went after him.

2058
02:52:29,200 --> 02:52:29,720
It's all fairness.

2059
02:52:30,080 --> 02:52:41,080
Mr. Chairman, you're literally saying that the administrator has to do the attorney's job, contracts by their very nature are the attorney.

2060
02:52:42,640 --> 02:52:47,840
And if we present them to them in phone calls, emails, however, and my staff is here.

2061
02:52:48,560 --> 02:52:53,920
They will tell you how often we presented things and had timelines and so on and so forth.

2062
02:52:54,820 --> 02:53:03,940
This is not new, this is not too new to this body, this is not new to me and certainly should not be to anybody.

2063
02:53:06,100 --> 02:53:13,000
So to that point, I'll put a pin in that, you had people stand tonight and

2064
02:53:13,000 --> 02:53:17,880
And it offered you political expediency when it comes to some things.

2065
02:53:19,300 --> 02:53:24,120
I was invited to this job and accepted it wholeheartedly, wholeheartedly.

2066
02:53:25,660 --> 02:53:29,420
I accepted it based on what you all offered.

2067
02:53:30,760 --> 02:53:33,760
You offered me a salary of $105,000.

2068
02:53:35,060 --> 02:53:39,260
That same salary was turned down by Mr. Elias two or three times.

2069
02:53:39,560 --> 02:53:42,680
It wasn't enough, but it's still called it.

2070
02:53:42,680 --> 02:53:49,200
Mr. Chairman, he called my name in the public meeting, and I'm addressing the issues that he addressed.

2071
02:53:49,300 --> 02:53:51,180
Okay, let me just issue, I'm going to get with that.

2072
02:53:51,300 --> 02:53:51,580
I agree.

2073
02:53:52,740 --> 02:54:00,740
He called my name, I accepted the salary that he would not accept, because it was too little money.

2074
02:54:03,680 --> 02:54:08,700
I came and did the job, when I got to this county, the county was millions of dollars in debt.

2075
02:54:08,700 --> 02:54:12,180
could find nobody to work here, nobody.

2076
02:54:12,700 --> 02:54:16,660
Nobody wanted to be a part of the Board of County Commissioners.

2077
02:54:18,160 --> 02:54:24,660
No vendors, vendors had publicly stood at that things that will never work with the Board of County Commissioners again.

2078
02:54:25,280 --> 02:54:33,160
I accepted the challenge, I accepted the challenge, but I asked the Board for some understanding.

2079
02:54:33,160 --> 02:54:38,100
Nothing, no gotchas, this is going to be a hard job.

2080
02:54:39,820 --> 02:54:45,120
So if every night you come into the meeting and to attack staff and whether or not we're

2081
02:54:45,120 --> 02:54:47,740
perfect, you know we're not perfect.

2082
02:54:49,060 --> 02:54:51,120
You know the people we bring here are not perfect.

2083
02:54:51,800 --> 02:54:56,140
But if you come and attack us, then how are we going to perform?

2084
02:54:56,940 --> 02:54:59,680
I asked the board and the board agreed.

2085
02:55:00,000 --> 02:55:12,020
No gotchas. That we will do things together, that we will attempt to move this county together, all of us, all the board. And the board agreed to that. First thing,

2086
02:55:14,800 --> 02:55:30,960
secondly, but before I go there, let me say, after three years of doing this job, the board met with my contract end that I'd never asked for a pay increase, a pay adjustment. The top employees made as much money as the board,

2087
02:55:30,960 --> 02:55:59,020
as the administrator because I negotiated the salaries and you couldn't get anybody to come here for cheap why because people got fired from here quickly all the way down the line and no one would come here so I went out looking for people to come here and we found people good people to come here and work after three years the board met and approved a salary increase.

2088
02:55:59,020 --> 02:56:07,260
And then only because when they looked around every city manager of every city and guess and count and make more than the county administrator.

2089
02:56:08,810 --> 02:56:11,400
Some of those managers have five or ten employees.

2090
02:56:12,650 --> 02:56:20,740
This county administrator has nearly 300 employees and a $60 million budget then.

2091
02:56:22,630 --> 02:56:24,150
I accepted the challenge.

2092
02:56:24,530 --> 02:56:27,770
They gave me a raise to $140,000.

2093
02:56:27,770 --> 02:56:35,370
dollars. It sounds like a lot, but in comparison, it's not. It's probably still the lowest

2094
02:56:35,370 --> 02:56:45,410
paid county administrator in this area. I accepted the challenge, did the job, so it's

2095
02:56:45,410 --> 02:56:50,910
easy to stand on the sideline and throw bricks when you didn't accept the challenge.

2096
02:56:59,340 --> 02:57:00,060
But

2097
02:57:00,060 --> 02:57:02,420
make decisions based on political expediency.

2098
02:57:03,280 --> 02:57:09,560
This is a hard job any day, any day, that people I work with are good people.

2099
02:57:09,980 --> 02:57:15,500
They don't deserve to come and be blasted every night for the work that they are doing.

2100
02:57:18,710 --> 02:57:19,690
Secondly, let me say,

2101
02:57:23,450 --> 02:57:28,690
I asked the board not for a county car, for a car allowance.

2102
02:57:28,690 --> 02:57:31,970
that allow us to $600 a month for

2103
02:57:34,050 --> 02:57:40,370
the courthouse pruner and for those folks who like to play on Facebook.

2104
02:57:41,610 --> 02:57:44,430
The county did not buy me an $80,000 car.

2105
02:57:44,890 --> 02:57:45,890
I bought me a car.

2106
02:57:46,750 --> 02:57:51,310
The county pays $600 and for those of you who drive, that ain't gas money.

2107
02:57:51,750 --> 02:57:52,070
A month,

2108
02:57:54,560 --> 02:57:58,100
because I didn't want to be involved in this kind of foolishness right here.

2109
02:57:58,100 --> 02:58:04,820
where people are following people, people are peeping behind the curtain, we want to got you.

2110
02:58:05,920 --> 02:58:15,740
And I was very clear, I stood right there at that podium and they said, why don't you want to count the cards because I'm going to make the left into the liquor store, some nights.

2111
02:58:17,100 --> 02:58:22,060
And on Sunday, Derrick and Lyes can find me at Joanne's and he knew it.

2112
02:58:22,920 --> 02:58:24,740
And I don't want to be in a county car.

2113
02:58:24,740 --> 02:58:26,800
I don't want to disrespect this body.

2114
02:58:27,140 --> 02:58:30,220
I would never do anything to disrespect this body.

2115
02:58:30,300 --> 02:58:38,060
I came to this job with my eyes open, open, and we have done nothing but work.

2116
02:58:38,520 --> 02:58:41,920
You want to know $140,000, that's good money.

2117
02:58:42,120 --> 02:58:44,700
Don't misunderstand me, that's good money.

2118
02:58:45,620 --> 02:58:50,560
But let me be very clear, I'm clear about what it is that we have accomplished.

2119
02:58:50,560 --> 02:59:00,860
Because I was doing things before I got here, major work will tell you that he and I were in New York times together.

2120
02:59:01,540 --> 02:59:06,760
Because I had 60 inmates, you talk about economic development, 60 inmates coming from that jail,

2121
02:59:06,960 --> 02:59:15,120
every day going to Florida State Hospital, learning trades for years and coming out being productive citizens.

2122
02:59:17,070 --> 02:59:18,870
If I'm lying, he's sitting right there,

2123
02:59:21,640 --> 02:59:35,680
many before another example, that new bus that we see right in here, that was the last job four years ago, and I kept my hand on it for four years, until it got the gas and county.

2124
02:59:37,180 --> 02:59:44,780
That quarter of a million dollar bus that's now going to service all of gas and county health care needs.

2125
02:59:44,780 --> 02:59:46,500
So I was doing things before I got here.

2126
02:59:46,900 --> 02:59:48,420
I enjoy it coming to the county.

2127
02:59:48,800 --> 02:59:51,520
Since I've been here, let me make it clear.

2128
02:59:53,770 --> 02:59:57,590
We have $50 million in new buildings going up right now.

2129
02:59:58,870 --> 02:59:59,750
$50 million.

2130
02:59:59,750 --> 02:59:59,970
and off.

2131
03:00:01,460 --> 03:00:11,140
New sheriff's office, new economic, I mean emergency operation building, new emergency services building, new shelters.

2132
03:00:11,700 --> 03:00:19,940
We have new buildings going up everywhere. I created a legislative process that invited folk to the table.

2133
03:00:20,500 --> 03:00:25,660
Ask the board to pay an attorney, to pay a lobbyist, and to pay a federal lobbyist.

2134
03:00:26,840 --> 03:00:34,640
And we've not yet not been funded in millions of dollars every year coming out of the legislative session.

2135
03:00:35,200 --> 03:00:36,740
I'm not ashamed of that.

2136
03:00:37,020 --> 03:00:40,200
I brought people here that would not work anywhere else.

2137
03:00:41,080 --> 03:00:43,740
The latest person we hired came from the governor's office.

2138
03:00:45,830 --> 03:00:48,030
They was chief of budget at the governor's office.

2139
03:00:48,490 --> 03:00:52,050
Do I know them absolutely just like I know Derek and Lyson riding them on?

2140
03:00:52,830 --> 03:01:01,050
I helped him get a job to asking, he'll tell you, he knows me, and knows me well.

2141
03:01:02,410 --> 03:01:04,310
But there are some things I don't do, I don't steal.

2142
03:01:05,510 --> 03:01:11,150
I've got no reason to never have, because when you learn to be poor it's all right, you know you ain't going to die.

2143
03:01:14,070 --> 03:01:22,150
So let me be very clear, you may, because I'm a public official, say what you will on Facebook.

2144
03:01:23,490 --> 03:01:30,730
You may say what you will, but those of you who want to turn it into some form of truth are looking for something.

2145
03:01:32,940 --> 03:01:38,640
If something happened with these vehicles, I can promise you, I'm going to be the first one to find out, I'm going to be the first one to deal with it.

2146
03:01:40,080 --> 03:01:43,320
Because I make it clear that everybody who works with me, that is not what we do.

2147
03:01:45,100 --> 03:01:48,740
My integrity means more to me than anything else.

2148
03:01:50,040 --> 03:01:57,020
I've invited lobbyists to come join us, I've asked lobbyists to join us who we didn't pay to work for this county.

2149
03:02:00,080 --> 03:02:01,880
We've recruited people from all over.

2150
03:02:02,200 --> 03:02:07,020
When we didn't have ambulances in this county, you don't even know we didn't have ambulances.

2151
03:02:07,520 --> 03:02:18,440
I got up with the Palm Beach County, met with a friend, a friend since we want to talk about friends, who sent us two ambulances to help this county out.

2152
03:02:18,440 --> 03:02:19,280
So,

2153
03:02:28,400 --> 03:02:30,000
let me close in saying this,

2154
03:02:32,020 --> 03:02:35,960
the first salaries commissioners that you all approve was not mine.

2155
03:02:37,060 --> 03:02:41,020
We came to you and asked you to give the employees of bonus cost.

2156
03:02:41,020 --> 03:02:43,560
We had employees making $10 and fall to send an out.

2157
03:02:45,510 --> 03:02:49,750
We had employees who've been with us 20 years making $12 and fall to send an out.

2158
03:02:51,070 --> 03:02:57,750
And I came to you and said, give them a bonus, and I think that first bonus was $2,000 you all approved.

2159
03:02:57,750 --> 03:03:00,610
the second bonus I think was $1,500.

2160
03:03:01,690 --> 03:03:05,770
And then we came back to you and said, we have a compensation study.

2161
03:03:07,210 --> 03:03:13,470
Those same employees that were making $10 an hour, now make $19 and $20 an hour.

2162
03:03:15,360 --> 03:03:19,380
Nobody at the county qualifies for food stamps, that might not be important to you.

2163
03:03:19,900 --> 03:03:20,900
That's important to me.

2164
03:03:22,140 --> 03:03:27,000
As I recall, there's not an employee that makes less than $31,000 now walking through the door.

2165
03:03:27,000 --> 03:03:32,060
Now, you may not think that's something to be proud of because you are dirty, filthy rich.

2166
03:03:33,200 --> 03:03:39,400
But for folk working in this county, the county ought to be a place to come, change your

2167
03:03:39,400 --> 03:03:42,560
life, move your life, and we've done that.

2168
03:03:43,640 --> 03:03:45,920
I'm not ashamed of that.

2169
03:03:47,400 --> 03:03:51,200
I'm not ashamed of trying to move this county forward.

2170
03:03:51,600 --> 03:03:52,620
That was my job.

2171
03:03:52,620 --> 03:03:56,800
And just as you gave me the opportunity, if you choose to give it to someone else,

2172
03:03:57,140 --> 03:03:59,820
that has been the board's call, every Tuesday night.

2173
03:04:01,880 --> 03:04:02,880
Every Tuesday night.

2174
03:04:03,540 --> 03:04:07,040
But don't do that, do anything because of political expedience.

2175
03:04:07,040 --> 03:04:13,380
And because somebody who's never done anything for anybody is standing up, click in views.

2176
03:04:17,640 --> 03:04:22,520
If that's how you want to make policy, then you probably do need somebody else because it's never going to work.

2177
03:04:22,520 --> 03:04:28,040
We invite professionals to this county to work.

2178
03:04:29,260 --> 03:04:34,400
They've come because they found integrity and promise here.

2179
03:04:36,020 --> 03:04:41,760
I'd admire sitting here on Tuesday night taking whatever bullets that you all have for me, none whatsoever.

2180
03:04:42,480 --> 03:04:48,160
And none on this table can tell me that I've not helped them in every way possible.

2181
03:04:48,740 --> 03:04:51,980
None, we have, that's our job.

2182
03:04:51,980 --> 03:04:54,500
We intended to do it and we did it well

2183
03:04:55,860 --> 03:04:59,440
When there was COVID I ran a group that did the testing

2184
03:05:00,430 --> 03:05:05,470
Any immunization? I didn't see writing them more directly lies.

2185
03:05:10,580 --> 03:05:13,340
So please, this is not the beginning of my work.

2186
03:05:15,620 --> 03:05:36,720
Please don't let folk who try to lead you by misleading you. Have your time. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Thank you, thank you, Mr. Kindman. I just wanted him to, you know, somebody says something. It's just, it's just good for them to

2187
03:05:36,720 --> 03:05:37,940
to clarify stuff.

2188
03:05:40,380 --> 03:05:44,600
Next, we have, I'm so used to calling the district one, that's me.

2189
03:05:45,640 --> 03:05:48,240
So now we have commissioners,

2190
03:05:53,240 --> 03:05:55,940
district, Mr. Chairman, two, yes.

2191
03:05:56,560 --> 03:05:58,240
I apologize, I know I took some time.

2192
03:05:58,960 --> 03:06:02,500
It's okay, but we do allow me to address one or two issues, really quickly.

2193
03:06:04,640 --> 03:06:05,240
You, sir?

2194
03:06:05,560 --> 03:06:06,720
Yes, sir, yes, I go ahead.

2195
03:06:06,720 --> 03:06:11,420
There was a mention about the electric bill next door,

2196
03:06:13,910 --> 03:06:15,210
while it is in the Board of

2197
03:06:15,210 --> 03:06:20,350
County Commissioners' name, that bill is being paid by the clerk's office.

2198
03:06:21,090 --> 03:06:23,270
It's been paid by the clerk's office.

2199
03:06:25,090 --> 03:06:30,730
The board had nothing to do with the continual payment of that, absolutely nothing.

2200
03:06:32,110 --> 03:06:35,910
I don't know why they won't say that, they know it's true.

2201
03:06:37,490 --> 03:06:41,230
But that's an issue with other, you'll see I'm well more ready.

2202
03:06:41,250 --> 03:06:42,050
One more, Mr. Chairman.

2203
03:06:42,470 --> 03:06:46,750
Okay, I just want to make sure we're in a little quicker because we want to make sure we move forward.

2204
03:06:47,490 --> 03:06:54,850
And, you know, they drop these words about cars, but we say we want to talk about the cars.

2205
03:06:55,170 --> 03:06:56,830
No, no, no, no, I'm talking about the lease program.

2206
03:06:57,750 --> 03:06:58,830
Don't worry about this, Mr. Chairman.

2207
03:06:59,110 --> 03:07:02,470
No, I want to, Mr. Chairman, I just want to say this one thing, 10 seconds.

2208
03:07:02,670 --> 03:07:03,110
Yeah, 10 seconds.

2209
03:07:03,110 --> 03:07:11,830
The board met January 16th, February 6th, June 11th, July 1st, July 1st, to talk about the lease program in this room.

2210
03:07:12,750 --> 03:07:15,510
You know, it was in this room, directly liars.

2211
03:07:18,210 --> 03:07:20,970
So there's no get-quick scheme going on.

2212
03:07:21,430 --> 03:07:25,210
We were spending $700,000 on cars a year.

2213
03:07:25,710 --> 03:07:27,170
Let me make sure that number.

2214
03:07:27,810 --> 03:07:34,950
250 plus 350, that's about $600,000 or $700,000 between fixing cars.

2215
03:07:34,950 --> 03:07:36,130
and buying new cars.

2216
03:07:36,850 --> 03:07:40,910
We're now spending $350,000 and that's on just a few cars.

2217
03:07:41,530 --> 03:07:48,190
We're now spending $350,000, $300,000 less on leasing 30 cars.

2218
03:07:49,130 --> 03:07:50,210
That's what we're doing.

2219
03:07:50,350 --> 03:07:52,750
If you come out here to this parking lot at any time,

2220
03:07:52,950 --> 03:07:58,190
a majority of the cars you saw out there didn't run, didn't take anybody anywhere.

2221
03:07:59,310 --> 03:08:03,110
If you look at the vans, the citizens are right, the senior citizens are right and

2222
03:08:03,110 --> 03:08:03,990
and they're broken down.

2223
03:08:04,490 --> 03:08:08,030
The county's responsible for providing cars to a lot of people.

2224
03:08:08,950 --> 03:08:13,330
And as you know, you cannot no longer take a car to a shade tree mechanic.

2225
03:08:13,930 --> 03:08:15,170
You have to take it back.

2226
03:08:16,310 --> 03:08:24,530
So we made a decision to recommend to the board that we move into this new type thing of leasing.

2227
03:08:25,490 --> 03:08:28,570
Sheriff doesn't, two or three cities do it.

2228
03:08:28,950 --> 03:08:30,050
It is nothing new.

2229
03:08:31,570 --> 03:08:32,670
It is nothing new.

2230
03:08:32,670 --> 03:08:36,230
And we are saving the county hundreds of thousands of dollars.

2231
03:08:36,670 --> 03:08:38,770
Now, do people disagree with that?

2232
03:08:38,870 --> 03:08:40,410
Yes, but it was voted on by the board.

2233
03:08:40,770 --> 03:08:42,090
It's not Ed Dixon's plan.

2234
03:08:43,070 --> 03:08:45,970
The compensation study was not Ed Dixon's plan.

2235
03:08:46,090 --> 03:08:47,910
Ed Dixon didn't approve anything.

2236
03:08:48,870 --> 03:08:49,950
Let's make it very clear.

2237
03:08:50,170 --> 03:08:53,310
So when you want to do your little thing, let's make it very clear.

2238
03:08:53,750 --> 03:08:55,790
That the things I did came before the board.

2239
03:08:56,230 --> 03:08:57,150
Thank you, Mr. Chairman.

2240
03:08:57,410 --> 03:08:58,630
Thank you, thank you.

2241
03:08:58,630 --> 03:09:03,070
You are now next, Commissioner of District 2, Commissioner Simkins.

2242
03:09:03,590 --> 03:09:05,190
I apologize for the delay.

2243
03:09:08,720 --> 03:09:09,820
Thank you.

2244
03:09:12,580 --> 03:09:13,660
And I have a start off.

2245
03:09:19,310 --> 03:09:20,150
Commissioner,

2246
03:09:28,540 --> 03:09:36,300
you were very, that was very, very disrespectful earlier.

2247
03:09:37,120 --> 03:09:43,460
And I would have never, ever, disrespected you like that on the diets.

2248
03:09:46,100 --> 03:09:46,580
We

2249
03:09:52,240 --> 03:09:59,220
said a whole lot of things here tonight, we're dealing with a whole lot of things here in this county.

2250
03:10:01,100 --> 03:10:12,120
And when I decided to seek office, it wasn't to deal with this kind of stuff. It was to move

2251
03:10:12,120 --> 03:10:19,080
gas and county from being, from just being known as the majority black county,

2252
03:10:21,660 --> 03:10:22,000
but being

2253
03:10:22,000 --> 03:10:23,700
a county that

2254
03:10:26,520 --> 03:10:34,180
was making a difference that people wanted to come to, where we had growth

2255
03:10:34,180 --> 03:10:38,980
and development taking place.

2256
03:10:40,020 --> 03:10:43,000
In order for that to take place,

2257
03:10:44,380 --> 03:10:46,840
we are going to have to

2258
03:10:47,880 --> 03:10:50,840
put our personal

2259
03:10:52,820 --> 03:10:55,240
agendas to the side

2260
03:10:56,080 --> 03:10:57,460
and let it be about

2261
03:10:58,160 --> 03:11:00,160
gassing county.

2262
03:11:02,540 --> 03:11:04,060
There are a lot of things

2263
03:11:04,060 --> 03:11:09,760
that's out there, there are a lot of things that's being said, and I mean we can be upset.

2264
03:11:11,060 --> 03:11:16,680
People have the right to a lot of people don't know.

2265
03:11:17,720 --> 03:11:25,860
As the attorney said, we shouldn't have a public records lawsuit because citizens have

2266
03:11:25,860 --> 03:11:28,900
have the right to public information.

2267
03:11:31,260 --> 03:11:34,260
People also have a right to their opinion.

2268
03:11:39,970 --> 03:11:55,470
There are some things that as a commissioner, I feel that we could do better as a county.

2269
03:11:56,870 --> 03:11:57,450
And

2270
03:12:01,700 --> 03:12:13,220
there's some cost that we incurred and Ms. Administrator, I think that we beat up on the staff.

2271
03:12:14,140 --> 03:12:19,160
I don't think we beat up on the staff, and I might beat up on you,

2272
03:12:21,280 --> 03:12:27,240
but I don't beat up on your staff.

2273
03:12:27,940 --> 03:12:36,660
There may be questions that I ask as it relates to, because we are always talking about we need this position in that position.

2274
03:12:37,540 --> 03:12:46,680
And my question is, we don't have anybody in house that's capable of doing that particular work.

2275
03:12:47,780 --> 03:12:53,320
With the staff, and I stick on that with the staff, because we do have our administrative staff.

2276
03:12:53,320 --> 03:13:00,180
We have we quite a bit for administrative staff. So some things that we are outsourcing. We shouldn't have to

2277
03:13:02,280 --> 03:13:02,820
outsource

2278
03:13:03,530 --> 03:13:03,800
I

2279
03:13:08,360 --> 03:13:11,840
Had a whole lot of stuff. I don't want to say it

2280
03:13:12,940 --> 03:13:19,760
I'm going to I'm done. I want to say the wild game. I don't think we've had a means since the wild game

2281
03:13:20,360 --> 03:13:21,540
the wild game

2282
03:13:23,060 --> 03:13:23,600
there

2283
03:13:24,460 --> 03:13:25,000
were

2284
03:13:25,000 --> 03:13:32,280
It probably was over 1,000 people that went through there more more more

2285
03:13:33,400 --> 03:13:35,700
That is actually we talk about

2286
03:13:37,520 --> 03:13:38,140
tours

2287
03:13:39,680 --> 03:13:40,960
development, right

2288
03:13:42,480 --> 03:13:46,960
That's one that we actually don't take a look at

2289
03:13:48,160 --> 03:13:52,280
And those guys pretty much find that out of their pockets and

2290
03:13:53,200 --> 03:13:57,060
You have people coming from all over to

2291
03:13:58,640 --> 03:14:15,760
participate in that event, and so I say hats off to the organization of what is it across the tracks, hats off to across the tracks, for always putting on an awesome event.

2292
03:14:23,800 --> 03:14:33,380
I set with them a couple of the guys and talk to them about becoming part of our echo tourism package.

2293
03:14:33,680 --> 03:14:36,240
So you're absolutely correct, that is the most fantastic.

2294
03:14:41,420 --> 03:14:44,600
That's all right, that's all right here, thank you.

2295
03:14:48,370 --> 03:14:49,890
So, Mr. Woods,

2296
03:14:52,800 --> 03:14:53,740
thank you.

2297
03:14:56,520 --> 03:14:59,080
Well, a thing about politics and for this job.

2298
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:08,580
I was in Mr. Bradwell's dad's church in Greensboro, and everybody came up and said, we entrust y'all,

2299
03:15:09,790 --> 03:15:11,220
but we don't trust y'all.

2300
03:15:13,540 --> 03:15:20,100
And everything that I have seen going here tonight echoes loudly.

2301
03:15:22,720 --> 03:15:32,050
When I ran, I ran to prove a point to Gaston County, I ran as a Democrat.

2302
03:15:33,650 --> 03:15:38,670
I knew good and well that they'd put somebody in the block to vote, and so they'd keep a

2303
03:15:38,670 --> 03:15:39,890
lot of white people from voting.

2304
03:15:41,010 --> 03:15:44,190
And I knew that it would be probably 70, 30, 80, 20.

2305
03:15:45,710 --> 03:15:46,510
But guess what?

2306
03:15:46,510 --> 03:15:54,110
But I have more confidence in black people than a lot of other people, because I have too

2307
03:15:54,110 --> 03:15:58,010
many friends and family that don't look like me.

2308
03:16:00,070 --> 03:16:06,650
And if we don't figure out how to work this out, to where we can all get along, we're

2309
03:16:06,650 --> 03:16:07,470
all going to fail.

2310
03:16:10,650 --> 03:16:17,650
And I am shaming the P patch, Pastor, I'm not afraid to stand when the Philistines come.

2311
03:16:19,810 --> 03:16:22,690
I'm not afraid to talk about the things they had to be talked about.

2312
03:16:22,890 --> 03:16:24,190
I'm going to stand on what's right.

2313
03:16:25,290 --> 03:16:29,850
And every church I went into, regardless of what color they were, they said,

2314
03:16:29,910 --> 03:16:32,230
Major Wood, we expect you to do right.

2315
03:16:34,800 --> 03:16:40,340
And I haven't been happy, and I'm going to tell you, I'm not going to say anything

2316
03:16:40,340 --> 03:16:44,580
about it about Mr. Dixon, I appreciate everything you just said.

2317
03:16:45,320 --> 03:16:49,900
But for me, I also think about my friends with integrity.

2318
03:16:51,060 --> 03:16:57,140
Those two guys I have known there for many, many years and I did not like what they went through.

2319
03:16:57,920 --> 03:16:59,220
I did not like it.

2320
03:17:00,120 --> 03:17:11,440
I did not like when through my years when there's a commission change that commissioners will wait on the new commissioner, Mr. Williams, before they appoint somebody.

2321
03:17:12,520 --> 03:17:14,200
I did not think that was right.

2322
03:17:14,200 --> 03:17:19,810
I express my concerns to other commissioners, they're my friends.

2323
03:17:20,650 --> 03:17:21,770
I didn't agree with them.

2324
03:17:22,110 --> 03:17:25,610
Everybody knows I'm very close to the Commissioner Green.

2325
03:17:27,550 --> 03:17:32,810
I did not like it, because when Mr. Williams came in,

2326
03:17:34,110 --> 03:17:41,490
they gave him a three year contract, which basically bound Major Wood from having a choice

2327
03:17:41,490 --> 03:17:48,690
who he would represent and in my opinion Mr. Williams I thank you sharp guy I

2328
03:17:48,690 --> 03:17:54,690
really do but I don't thank you my lawyer I thank you there lawyer and that's

2329
03:17:54,690 --> 03:18:00,370
just being if you could have waited another month a month I would have been

2330
03:18:00,370 --> 03:18:02,290
part of the process I

2331
03:18:04,660 --> 03:18:08,620
wanted to be part of putting the program back together but

2332
03:18:08,620 --> 03:18:14,820
But instead, they put the program together for me, and I did not like it.

2333
03:18:15,920 --> 03:18:21,620
The things that I've heard that are going on, not good.

2334
03:18:22,360 --> 03:18:28,020
We can be mad at whoever said it, but this is representing what the community is telling

2335
03:18:28,020 --> 03:18:28,460
people.

2336
03:18:29,040 --> 03:18:30,080
It's what I hear.

2337
03:18:31,600 --> 03:18:32,660
And it's a problem.

2338
03:18:34,400 --> 03:18:38,040
Everybody kind of wondering what old Major Wu was going to do when he got on the board.

2339
03:18:38,840 --> 03:18:42,020
And I'm going to do just what their old ladies in the church said because I'm rolling

2340
03:18:42,020 --> 03:18:45,140
with the church ladies guys y'all don't fool yourself.

2341
03:18:45,800 --> 03:18:49,940
If I can't stand in front of them church ladies and tell them what we're doing in this county,

2342
03:18:51,740 --> 03:18:52,880
I don't need to be here.

2343
03:18:53,180 --> 03:18:58,080
This while they voted for me, I ain't going to have a drinking party in the county paying

2344
03:18:58,080 --> 03:18:58,660
for it.

2345
03:18:58,860 --> 03:18:59,740
I'm not into it.

2346
03:18:59,740 --> 03:19:08,620
If you ain't got strollers, children, teenagers, adults, grown folks, and seniors, it's nothing

2347
03:19:08,620 --> 03:19:10,300
that we should be spending our money on.

2348
03:19:11,420 --> 03:19:17,360
And we have not spent our money on the faith base that my personal reflection and most

2349
03:19:17,360 --> 03:19:19,520
everybody on this diet is the same.

2350
03:19:21,950 --> 03:19:27,010
So not to be long-winded, I will tell you that I am not very happy.

2351
03:19:27,810 --> 03:19:28,590
I'm not.

2352
03:19:29,590 --> 03:19:34,970
I'm not happy with how we look, who's the blame?

2353
03:19:35,530 --> 03:19:36,910
There's always the question.

2354
03:19:38,250 --> 03:19:39,830
And right now we're fishing together.

2355
03:19:39,930 --> 03:19:40,770
The capital must hold.

2356
03:19:40,890 --> 03:19:42,950
It's you like to go and ask for a lot of money.

2357
03:19:43,310 --> 03:19:44,450
But we ain't spending the money.

2358
03:19:44,470 --> 03:19:45,530
They already don't give us.

2359
03:19:47,980 --> 03:19:50,120
And so here we are going to go over there and say, hey,

2360
03:19:50,380 --> 03:19:52,040
give us millions of dollars.

2361
03:19:55,540 --> 03:19:58,060
But we ain't spent what they don't give us.

2362
03:19:58,060 --> 03:19:59,980
The

2363
03:20:00,000 --> 03:20:05,180
They're not going to give us money if we don't spend them. Now, I know I'm a county commissioner,

2364
03:20:05,800 --> 03:20:10,040
but I'm going to tell you the number one priority in Gaston County. At this point, I don't

2365
03:20:10,040 --> 03:20:13,680
know if there's any of me here or not, is the schools.

2366
03:20:15,920 --> 03:20:17,480
This money that we spend, we have

2367
03:20:17,480 --> 03:20:22,780
to figure out a way. I know you were a school board member and I know Ms. Holt, you were a teacher.

2368
03:20:23,260 --> 03:20:29,280
We have to figure out a way to work without high school to make them successful.

2369
03:20:30,120 --> 03:20:34,560
This one that we have these parties that I don't agree with, if you tell me we're doing

2370
03:20:34,560 --> 03:20:37,280
things for the high school, I'm with you.

2371
03:20:38,220 --> 03:20:42,420
If you tell me we're going to do things for the same citizens, I'm with you.

2372
03:20:42,960 --> 03:20:46,400
But we're not having a clue about that in the field, it may just be with it.

2373
03:20:46,980 --> 03:20:48,320
I'm just telling you how we're up front.

2374
03:20:49,780 --> 03:20:59,560
So the last thing that I'm going to say is, I ain't happy, and that's all I got to say about that.

2375
03:21:03,220 --> 03:21:20,120
Major, thank you so, then I like that because we need to make sure that regardless of the differences that we have with school systems, whatever, there's still a lot of kids, and we need to make sure, we've been sent forever, we got funds that go directly to the school board.

2376
03:21:20,960 --> 03:21:28,300
that we change the policy so that those tickets go to the school board so they can use them as drivers education, everything else.

2377
03:21:28,560 --> 03:21:35,020
So, we need to do more as an individual to as well, and as a community, because they have a children.

2378
03:21:35,500 --> 03:21:45,240
I would challenge chair, vice chair, you all go have that conversation on our behalf, I definitely do that.

2379
03:21:45,240 --> 03:21:53,960
And Mr. Chairman, I just say we went to the legislature for the money for the school.

2380
03:21:54,940 --> 03:22:00,660
It was the board of county commissioners who went out there knocked on the doors on their lobbyist for the new school.

2381
03:22:01,380 --> 03:22:03,320
So we're not uninvolved.

2382
03:22:03,460 --> 03:22:09,060
All right, we always want to have the kids and also to share the department everybody else too as well.

2383
03:22:09,580 --> 03:22:12,340
That was a collective effort, I want to thank, like you said,

2384
03:22:12,340 --> 03:22:15,620
But sometimes they forget about the kind of commission, so everybody forget about us.

2385
03:22:16,100 --> 03:22:19,960
But I think you said that, I mean, it was a collective effort throughout the whole country.

2386
03:22:20,300 --> 03:22:23,920
But I would love to see the schools, we can make an development.

2387
03:22:24,500 --> 03:22:30,720
See, they can put that school in remote location so that we can be able to get some,

2388
03:22:30,760 --> 03:22:36,300
get some flow of traffic going there so everybody can make some money out of that deal.

2389
03:22:36,300 --> 03:22:42,700
That's how you grow the county by putting them in an area where everybody can be up from that school.

2390
03:22:43,700 --> 03:22:45,560
Commissioner Ho, your next.

2391
03:22:45,820 --> 03:22:46,340
Yes, thank

2392
03:22:48,550 --> 03:22:49,370
you so much.

2393
03:22:51,230 --> 03:22:58,570
There have been some very powerful things said today, and I think that when everyone's watching and

2394
03:22:58,570 --> 03:23:03,070
they say at the end of it are they trying to fix some things.

2395
03:23:03,690 --> 03:23:07,430
At the end of all of this, are we trying to fix something?

2396
03:23:07,950 --> 03:23:10,370
But there's a problem, how are we going to fix it?

2397
03:23:10,570 --> 03:23:13,550
The good thing is that we bring everything to the forefront.

2398
03:23:14,250 --> 03:23:17,610
So no matter what we say, it's been said, it's recorded.

2399
03:23:18,110 --> 03:23:20,650
So we all know that there are things that work on.

2400
03:23:21,390 --> 03:23:29,550
Several of them are, excuse me, we're looking at, as I said,

2401
03:23:29,670 --> 03:23:31,530
those contracts have to be out.

2402
03:23:32,430 --> 03:23:36,190
These months have to be spent in a timely manner.

2403
03:23:36,710 --> 03:23:42,390
The federal lobbyist are the ones that got the extension twice for us on the 4.6 million.

2404
03:23:43,510 --> 03:23:48,450
So these things have to be done and so if we're going to fix something but let me say this.

2405
03:23:49,050 --> 03:23:53,610
I want to address this to the people in here that say look at Bainbridge.

2406
03:23:54,530 --> 03:23:56,290
I have had five brothers to work up there.

2407
03:23:56,810 --> 03:23:57,490
I've been up there.

2408
03:23:57,810 --> 03:23:58,570
I'm from Georgia.

2409
03:23:59,790 --> 03:24:02,330
So I understand the methodology there.

2410
03:24:02,330 --> 03:24:04,410
are also in the school system.

2411
03:24:04,550 --> 03:24:06,470
You see the type of schools they build

2412
03:24:06,470 --> 03:24:07,550
and where they build them at,

2413
03:24:07,690 --> 03:24:09,570
totally different, mindsets different.

2414
03:24:10,550 --> 03:24:11,290
Mindset's different.

2415
03:24:11,890 --> 03:24:13,290
So when we're looking at that,

2416
03:24:13,450 --> 03:24:14,970
with the change, I will mindset.

2417
03:24:15,870 --> 03:24:18,050
And when you hear from these people

2418
03:24:18,050 --> 03:24:19,030
that went on that trip,

2419
03:24:19,210 --> 03:24:21,770
the reason they're so into this

2420
03:24:21,770 --> 03:24:23,850
is because if you look on your phone

2421
03:24:23,850 --> 03:24:25,830
and look up Joe Max Higgins,

2422
03:24:25,970 --> 03:24:28,010
Mr. Anthony Baker's not back there,

2423
03:24:28,230 --> 03:24:29,950
but he went the first time that we went.

2424
03:24:29,950 --> 03:24:39,290
You look him up and you see 60 minutes, and he will show you exactly what he had to do to get those three counties in line.

2425
03:24:40,290 --> 03:24:48,390
Now get this, they had to meet seven days a week, you had a half day off for Sunday in order to go to church.

2426
03:24:48,930 --> 03:24:56,310
Three county commissions, the city commissions, the school boards, economic development teams, and the chambers.

2427
03:24:57,490 --> 03:24:59,790
And they were raising so much sand up there you would have.

2428
03:25:00,000 --> 03:25:29,980
You would have thought it was World War III, but it took them seven days a week, half day off on Sunday for almost three months. He said we must change your mindset. They hired him out of Arkansas, paid him $600,000. You go to 60 minutes, you'll see what we're talking about. You do not need a college degree for these jobs. You do not need a college degree.

2429
03:25:29,980 --> 03:25:36,840
But if you see the tech that they're using, high tech, AI, robotics, they had all of it.

2430
03:25:37,240 --> 03:25:39,320
They recruit from the school system.

2431
03:25:40,700 --> 03:25:45,300
When we went out there and this Thomas said you could not, we could not visit on Thursday

2432
03:25:45,300 --> 03:25:48,760
was because they had about 3,000 eighth graders out there.

2433
03:25:50,160 --> 03:25:51,920
They start recruiting from middle school.

2434
03:25:52,560 --> 03:25:57,560
When the fresh companies they brought in, they were killing cows, slaughtering cows and

2435
03:25:57,560 --> 03:25:57,900
hogs.

2436
03:25:57,900 --> 03:26:01,800
on a plant, almost 2500 people got laid off when it closed.

2437
03:26:02,640 --> 03:26:06,980
Those three counties got the galley, can't say because we're black, we can't do it.

2438
03:26:07,560 --> 03:26:08,900
Columbus County's predominantly black.

2439
03:26:09,680 --> 03:26:13,160
To a surrounding county's word, not low income.

2440
03:26:13,420 --> 03:26:17,260
When you see this black lady on that's talking about, she was on welfare, not she owns

2441
03:26:17,260 --> 03:26:18,540
her own home and everything.

2442
03:26:19,620 --> 03:26:22,120
And they went from nothing to something.

2443
03:26:22,600 --> 03:26:24,880
So that's why we have to look at these things.

2444
03:26:25,200 --> 03:26:26,340
Now we can do labor jobs.

2445
03:26:27,220 --> 03:26:30,820
We can do labor jobs, it's not going to pay anything, but we can do it.

2446
03:26:31,360 --> 03:26:36,800
But when you see that, they bought 10,000 acres starting out of cross-row in the middle

2447
03:26:36,800 --> 03:26:37,340
of the woods.

2448
03:26:38,480 --> 03:26:43,520
And when the guy said, I need water, sewer, electricity, commission, the handsome, and

2449
03:26:43,520 --> 03:26:47,300
that infrastructure in there, and that was almost 20 years ago.

2450
03:26:48,360 --> 03:26:51,220
They cut the food, they did everything.

2451
03:26:51,220 --> 03:26:56,700
while color county went up there we went the first time I went Liberty County

2452
03:26:56,700 --> 03:27:00,440
Franklin County Jackson County all those counties we got on the bus and we

2453
03:27:00,440 --> 03:27:06,480
went north up to Mississippi and when you see the mindset is totally different

2454
03:27:06,480 --> 03:27:12,760
he told them if I bring in someone into this county for to bring their business

2455
03:27:12,760 --> 03:27:18,220
here we need a hairdresser to know what the county's plan is we need to

2456
03:27:18,220 --> 03:27:22,060
a hairdresser to know what it's gonna take to be helpful.

2457
03:27:22,460 --> 03:27:26,200
What if he brings someone in and they want a haircut?

2458
03:27:26,780 --> 03:27:29,120
He said, a barber needs to know, the grocery store.

2459
03:27:29,620 --> 03:27:31,380
But I'm gonna tell you this, this was something.

2460
03:27:32,300 --> 03:27:35,060
They went from killing cows to building toyotas.

2461
03:27:37,220 --> 03:27:38,580
And I asked them at what they called them,

2462
03:27:38,740 --> 03:27:40,420
during that time they called it community diversity.

2463
03:27:40,820 --> 03:27:42,460
They took the junior college and

2464
03:27:42,460 --> 03:27:46,500
changed it into a training facility for those businesses.

2465
03:27:47,060 --> 03:27:56,020
And I asked the instructor Dean there, I said, how did you, how did you train them from slaughterhouse to building cars?

2466
03:27:56,400 --> 03:27:59,340
He said, commission the whole, they didn't have to know how to build a car.

2467
03:27:59,960 --> 03:28:03,460
You said all they had to do was work their station, their car is going to come back.

2468
03:28:04,700 --> 03:28:14,700
You have people that are at pack car, that plan is so large, when you see it, three to one, three to four, three to one, I'm sorry, four people, three to one.

2469
03:28:15,500 --> 03:28:22,740
Black people and poor people, white people, and some expense, building cars, putting those

2470
03:28:22,740 --> 03:28:23,540
motors together.

2471
03:28:23,940 --> 03:28:26,400
Didn't have the robots in the department with the big robots.

2472
03:28:27,100 --> 03:28:30,180
You still only needed a high school diploma or a GED.

2473
03:28:32,120 --> 03:28:37,360
So all we're asking is give us an opportunity to get some of our people, some of those jobs.

2474
03:28:37,480 --> 03:28:38,340
That's all we're asking for.

2475
03:28:38,900 --> 03:28:44,000
Now, they have FedEx there, they have a steel mill there that's so large it takes five and

2476
03:28:44,000 --> 03:28:49,260
four and a half hours just to walk it. They're building an aluminum plant. The building by

2477
03:28:49,260 --> 03:28:58,440
South Sean is a quarter of a mile long. These are working people and they started from a cross

2478
03:28:58,440 --> 03:29:02,640
road and it gave them the devil because you know what he said they said.

2479
03:29:05,040 --> 03:29:06,120
He said I need an

2480
03:29:06,120 --> 03:29:12,100
airstrip beside that intersection and they said well why does he need an airstrip? He's

2481
03:29:12,100 --> 03:29:14,800
because the people I deal with, they do not drive, they fly.

2482
03:29:16,160 --> 03:29:18,180
See, his mindset was different.

2483
03:29:18,900 --> 03:29:22,260
But what we have is saying that, now you can get in a car,

2484
03:29:22,380 --> 03:29:23,580
you can go to a bandage, you go to work.

2485
03:29:24,640 --> 03:29:26,900
You can get in a car and catch a bus and go to a car.

2486
03:29:27,080 --> 03:29:28,580
We payin' for it.

2487
03:29:29,300 --> 03:29:31,080
The citizens payin' for that bus every day.

2488
03:29:31,840 --> 03:29:34,260
You can go to Amazon and go to work until I ask it.

2489
03:29:35,140 --> 03:29:38,760
But what you cannot do is bring those tech jobs here

2490
03:29:38,760 --> 03:29:40,540
unless you go after them.

2491
03:29:42,040 --> 03:29:43,420
So that's the difference.

2492
03:29:43,740 --> 03:29:46,620
If you're 17 years old and you graduate from high school,

2493
03:29:47,000 --> 03:29:48,640
the drug dealers pay better than we do.

2494
03:29:49,700 --> 03:29:50,500
They just do.

2495
03:29:52,440 --> 03:29:55,240
So you got teenagers out there trying to sell drugs

2496
03:29:55,240 --> 03:29:58,340
when we could be getting them into these training programs

2497
03:29:58,340 --> 03:29:59,960
and have them make them...

2498
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:11,880
I want to be some living because the minimum wage would not get you a house. So that's how we're asking for. That's why we didn't take the trip because we want to spend the money. I don't like riding six hours on the bus.

2499
03:30:14,160 --> 03:30:30,860
It's not fun. But I tried this. I went 10 years ago. Guess what he told me when I walked in the door? What did he do? Miss Thomas? What did Joe Maizoo? Hey, Brian, that hug. Why? I told him, he said it's been 10 years. I said, we move a little slower and gas than counting. We should have been up there.

2500
03:30:31,800 --> 03:30:35,020
training, sending four and five people, but we didn't do it.

2501
03:30:35,760 --> 03:30:37,320
So now we have to do it.

2502
03:30:37,400 --> 03:30:38,400
That's all I'm asking for.

2503
03:30:38,920 --> 03:30:43,260
Give our kids an opportunity, so thank you much.

2504
03:30:43,860 --> 03:30:48,780
Thank you, Mr. County Commissioner Cream.

2505
03:30:49,360 --> 03:30:49,820
Thank you, sir.

2506
03:30:50,540 --> 03:30:52,480
All right, let me start off with a positive note.

2507
03:30:53,020 --> 03:30:57,380
Let's start off by saying congratulations to our mighty jaguars of gas and

2508
03:30:57,380 --> 03:31:01,580
and high for going to the next level of the playoffs.

2509
03:31:02,440 --> 03:31:05,360
So we definitely want to congratulate that,

2510
03:31:05,840 --> 03:31:08,100
and we want to not just congratulate it,

2511
03:31:08,100 --> 03:31:09,480
but to support it if we can.

2512
03:31:09,600 --> 03:31:11,540
I had the opportunity to go to the game on last week,

2513
03:31:11,900 --> 03:31:14,960
and it was a little cold, but I enjoy fellowship

2514
03:31:14,960 --> 03:31:16,720
and with our kids and encouraging them

2515
03:31:16,720 --> 03:31:18,340
and had the opportunity to even go on the field.

2516
03:31:18,900 --> 03:31:22,560
So seeing our faces, it does bring a sense of community

2517
03:31:23,220 --> 03:31:24,340
here for our county.

2518
03:31:24,340 --> 03:31:28,960
And I'm glad that you're talking about that trip or some of you made mention of that trip

2519
03:31:29,620 --> 03:31:34,720
Because I don't know why we continue to have the same issues from across the street. I don't get it

2520
03:31:34,720 --> 03:31:35,500
I'm sick of it

2521
03:31:36,020 --> 03:31:40,280
But we need to make an official motion so that they can pay the bill from that trip

2522
03:31:40,280 --> 03:31:47,780
So I like to make a motion that that bill is paid for the trip that we took that we already have approved of taking so I need to make that motion

2523
03:31:48,420 --> 03:31:50,200
I'll second. Thank you

2524
03:31:50,200 --> 03:31:55,780
The endboards, the endboards hadn't been paid to say that it hadn't properly came to the board for payment

2525
03:31:55,780 --> 03:32:00,840
So I just want to make sure that we properly get that endboards paid. I believe it's $7,800.

2526
03:32:01,740 --> 03:32:05,600
Okay, yes sir, but there's a bill that needs to be paid.

2527
03:32:05,660 --> 03:32:07,340
We have a motion to second all in favor, sir.

2528
03:32:07,680 --> 03:32:08,000
Aye.

2529
03:32:08,340 --> 03:32:09,060
You don't want to pose?

2530
03:32:09,860 --> 03:32:10,260
No.

2531
03:32:10,920 --> 03:32:13,560
I don't have it, so I'm not going to vote for what I don't know.

2532
03:32:13,800 --> 03:32:14,080
No problem.

2533
03:32:14,440 --> 03:32:19,580
Okay, I'll tell you what, what we would do then, we'll just hold out to get all the information

2534
03:32:19,580 --> 03:32:30,220
Okay, we got a motion to second, okay, against any parents anyway, but we got a motion to second, but it's, I guess you guys, we can go vote on if you want to.

2535
03:32:30,380 --> 03:32:31,040
We already voted.

2536
03:32:32,360 --> 03:32:34,340
You voted yes, it was so it's 31.

2537
03:32:34,720 --> 03:32:35,620
Okay, well, let's go.

2538
03:32:36,500 --> 03:32:37,020
Thank you.

2539
03:32:37,300 --> 03:32:37,680
Motion approved.

2540
03:32:38,400 --> 03:32:38,940
Thank you.

2541
03:32:40,640 --> 03:32:41,360
Thank you.

2542
03:32:42,140 --> 03:32:46,710
Okay, so, thank you.

2543
03:32:46,710 --> 03:33:15,110
Update on the Boys and Girls Club, and that may come from the attorney, I'm not sure, but we've been asking for some information for Boys and Girls Club, and we've been talking about funding spending money that has already been given to us on to make sure that we are moving as quick as we can, and the people can know that we're moving as quick as we can so that you can give some updates on that contract or what we're going as it relates to the Boys and Girls Club, and that can come from that administrator or the attorney, Mr. Chairman.

2544
03:33:16,470 --> 03:33:24,430
Mr. Chairman, as the attorney said, we're just waiting on that contract to get back.

2545
03:33:25,130 --> 03:33:29,210
We have been moving in the meantime with some other pieces but we need that to get back

2546
03:33:29,210 --> 03:33:29,690
to us.

2547
03:33:30,510 --> 03:33:30,710
Okay.

2548
03:33:31,990 --> 03:33:37,610
Just an additional clarification, I've had a conversation with the City Attorney and we've

2549
03:33:37,610 --> 03:33:44,450
agreed and this county administrator, we've agreed on concepts and now we're in the drafting

2550
03:33:45,550 --> 03:33:56,130
Thank you so much, and I've had a conversation with you as it relates to it, but I also had a few questions from people that were asking as well, so I wanted to make sure that that was publicly noted.

2551
03:33:56,810 --> 03:34:08,470
I also like to, I know that we're getting ready for the holidays, which is next Thursday, will be Thanksgiving, and I know that the governor has already granted, I think, the state wins the off.

2552
03:34:08,470 --> 03:34:16,590
So I would like to make a motion that we are granted grant a wins the off of the 27th of November for our employees as well

2553
03:34:17,350 --> 03:34:18,210
That's my motion

2554
03:34:21,350 --> 03:34:29,730
What about what about the public work center for everybody but what about let me just ask them just pose a question here because

2555
03:34:29,730 --> 03:34:32,410
No, sometimes we're gonna make sure I see the look and still look nice

2556
03:34:32,410 --> 03:34:35,930
You know doing hurricane season when when they go out doing this time

2557
03:34:35,930 --> 03:34:42,370
I'm just throwing some out, just an idea when they go out, if they choose to get overtime or whatever it is.

2558
03:34:42,790 --> 03:34:45,970
So they decide that they want to agree with that, then they can come out.

2559
03:34:46,290 --> 03:34:47,110
We keep a skeleton.

2560
03:34:47,330 --> 03:34:48,390
You got to work, yes sir.

2561
03:34:48,410 --> 03:34:49,990
Because you may get kind of messed up sometimes.

2562
03:34:50,090 --> 03:34:50,410
Yes sir.

2563
03:34:50,830 --> 03:34:55,170
We want to make sure to keep the kind of clean, but they just get paid extra pay for coming out there.

2564
03:34:55,630 --> 03:34:56,370
Yes sir, all right, cool.

2565
03:34:57,070 --> 03:34:59,930
All right, okay, we have motion to say.

2566
03:35:00,000 --> 03:35:17,860
Second, all the people, sir? And one of the polls? All right. We have five of both. Thank you. Finally, I would like to make sure that we're making the appropriate recognition for Mr. Dill Summerford, who is a tax collector for many years.

2567
03:35:20,120 --> 03:35:29,980
Well, we need to have some conversation on which direction, because what we want to do, and we don't have to do it tonight, but we also have Miss Shirley Green Knight, who we need to make sure

2568
03:35:29,980 --> 03:35:59,520
I'm sure that we're honoring at some point and I would also like to have conversation on the legalities and I'll talk to the attorney about it or the process of even possible against some buildings names change because these people have served for a long time in this county and they have served consistently and they have been honest in their serving hood in this county but I do want to make sure that we start giving that some attention real soon I believe that those jobs may take effect or changes officially in January so we have a

2569
03:35:59,520 --> 03:36:01,780
a little time for some conversation to have that.

2570
03:36:01,940 --> 03:36:02,940
So that's all I have for tonight.

2571
03:36:03,460 --> 03:36:04,980
Thank you again, welcome aboard.

2572
03:36:05,720 --> 03:36:06,440
Commissioner Wood.

2573
03:36:06,820 --> 03:36:08,260
Are you putting that in form of a motion?

2574
03:36:08,700 --> 03:36:12,100
Well, I want to have a discussion at a later time

2575
03:36:12,100 --> 03:36:14,260
on how, because I don't want it just to be a motion

2576
03:36:14,260 --> 03:36:15,920
or just something that we do.

2577
03:36:16,020 --> 03:36:17,240
These people have served for a long time.

2578
03:36:17,820 --> 03:36:19,780
And we did to make sure that they go down in history

2579
03:36:19,780 --> 03:36:21,360
as great servants of this county.

2580
03:36:22,320 --> 03:36:25,540
So we can definitely have a more detailed conversation.

2581
03:36:26,200 --> 03:36:28,440
Again, I want to make sure that I offer my congratulations

2582
03:36:28,440 --> 03:36:47,020
relations again to Major Wood who I am looking forward to continuing to work with even if there are disagreements it as well as it has always been on this board also congratulations to our new chairman of the board and I will discuss my reasons for my note but with him personally but thank you.

2583
03:36:47,020 --> 03:36:47,460
Okay.

2584
03:36:49,640 --> 03:36:51,280
I didn't realize you voted no.

2585
03:36:51,340 --> 03:36:51,600
I did.

2586
03:36:51,600 --> 03:36:51,640
I'm not a little bit scared.

2587
03:36:55,020 --> 03:36:55,980
Are we good, though?

2588
03:36:56,140 --> 03:36:56,400
We're good.

2589
03:36:56,500 --> 03:36:57,560
I'm not motivated, do you?

2590
03:36:58,900 --> 03:37:01,060
So I wrote a non-lubian, in a way, somebody else.

2591
03:37:01,120 --> 03:37:02,780
Yeah, I had to get you in the right quit.

2592
03:37:02,980 --> 03:37:03,720
Well, thank you, though.

2593
03:37:04,960 --> 03:37:06,100
For God's good, man.

2594
03:37:07,040 --> 03:37:08,200
Commissioner, you finished?

2595
03:37:08,640 --> 03:37:09,200
I'm done. Yes.

2596
03:37:09,440 --> 03:37:11,840
You know, sometime you got to be nice regardless.

2597
03:37:13,180 --> 03:37:15,600
You will, my grandmother always told me,

2598
03:37:15,660 --> 03:37:18,740
you could get more flies with honey than with vinegar.

2599
03:37:19,500 --> 03:37:24,160
And so I always try to be nice regardless, and through

2600
03:37:24,160 --> 03:37:29,560
precious situations, you still got to be nice.

2601
03:37:30,280 --> 03:37:31,780
You got something to go home and cry sometimes.

2602
03:37:31,880 --> 03:37:32,480
I'm a grown man.

2603
03:37:32,600 --> 03:37:33,400
I play at cry sometimes.

2604
03:37:33,640 --> 03:37:34,520
I'm happy we treat sometimes.

2605
03:37:35,120 --> 03:37:36,640
But you still got to treat people with kindness.

2606
03:37:37,580 --> 03:37:39,420
And because we're happy we represent kids.

2607
03:37:40,200 --> 03:37:43,220
These folks, probably look at these, look at this stuff, man.

2608
03:37:43,360 --> 03:37:44,200
They look at us.

2609
03:37:44,720 --> 03:37:47,060
They don't need to see us.

2610
03:37:50,890 --> 03:37:55,510
going out to each other, we got too much stuff going on with community, making the sheriff

2611
03:37:55,510 --> 03:38:00,810
and his deputies and colonels doing a difficult job, because they see us acting that way,

2612
03:38:00,910 --> 03:38:02,390
then they don't think they can do the same thing.

2613
03:38:06,570 --> 03:38:08,470
So, I kind of brushed things off.

2614
03:38:09,410 --> 03:38:14,190
I'm a quick, I'm a quick, he will commission a whole set early for some people.

2615
03:38:14,230 --> 03:38:16,070
They'll probably start crying a little tonight, right?

2616
03:38:16,070 --> 03:38:21,570
But for me personally, I was prepared for this moment.

2617
03:38:24,220 --> 03:38:26,740
I went through hell and back to the gas, take my bag.

2618
03:38:26,900 --> 03:38:30,300
I'm a coach, though, I was playing football at an infigene.

2619
03:38:30,580 --> 03:38:36,760
He said all the time, when I was younger, then God put me through so

2620
03:38:36,760 --> 03:38:39,420
many tests during that time to commission the whole.

2621
03:38:39,500 --> 03:38:43,680
So what people said, I tell kids all the time, you just can't worry about it.

2622
03:38:44,160 --> 03:38:46,280
You got a lot of kids, commit suicide, I mean.

2623
03:38:46,280 --> 03:38:53,600
Yeah, we got to be careful about Facebook bullying and going to send those in your windows and stuff because I you know

2624
03:38:53,600 --> 03:38:55,600
I had some challenges myself when I was young

2625
03:38:57,020 --> 03:39:02,140
But God blessed me he put me the opportunity to grow through that group and meet with great people

2626
03:39:02,140 --> 03:39:04,020
So I can overcome those things

2627
03:39:04,020 --> 03:39:08,320
That's why I love kids so much because I remember me when I was a little boy

2628
03:39:08,840 --> 03:39:13,260
So I moved a motion that we fired Mr. Dixon right now and

2629
03:39:13,260 --> 03:39:16,780
And move in a different direction.

2630
03:39:17,340 --> 03:39:18,460
Do I have a second on the floor?

2631
03:39:19,300 --> 03:39:19,660
Second.

2632
03:39:21,830 --> 03:39:23,290
Okay, we have a motion and a second.

2633
03:39:24,310 --> 03:39:25,530
I will have a discussion.

2634
03:39:28,970 --> 03:39:34,690
As I said before, when I got on the board, I didn't worry about who that administrator was nor the attorney.

2635
03:39:36,410 --> 03:39:40,630
And I said in that audience almost a year and watched.

2636
03:39:41,710 --> 03:39:44,370
So I did not have a problem with that.

2637
03:39:44,370 --> 03:39:50,070
because I knew once I got in the seat, I learned a seat and what the process was

2638
03:39:50,070 --> 03:39:59,650
in order to do things. So I do not feel that that's a good idea. I do not feel

2639
03:40:00,000 --> 03:40:29,060
Good idea. And there's a reason why. We need to look at how you're going to make any type of transition if you're going to do that. How would that transition transition look like? What would it look like? Another thing also is that we had a lot of problems before. With two or three of our administrators. And so it was nothing

2640
03:40:29,060 --> 03:40:38,260
that we could remedy. And that's why I have a problem with this going on, as I said before.

2641
03:40:38,900 --> 03:40:43,040
The last time we advertised, the young lady out of Atlanta should have had their job.

2642
03:40:43,640 --> 03:40:49,500
She should have been that administrator. The one from Doaton that was living in Lauderdale,

2643
03:40:49,860 --> 03:40:55,160
he was a second choice. They were the most qualified people for this job. But that boy would

2644
03:40:55,160 --> 03:41:06,320
not choose either one of the qualified people they did so what we did we went after some

2645
03:41:06,320 --> 03:41:12,400
of us Mr. Dixon because we did not we did not do what we should have done the first

2646
03:41:12,400 --> 03:41:20,280
time people chose their friend there's no friends in this Mr. Dixon to tell you I tell

2647
03:41:20,280 --> 03:41:21,420
tell him about himself.

2648
03:41:24,010 --> 03:41:28,950
Mr. James, you know I cuss, I don't care if I cuss. So the things

2649
03:41:28,950 --> 03:41:33,450
that I get on him about, I get on people about. And I want them to be frank with me and

2650
03:41:33,450 --> 03:41:41,610
tell me what they think about me. But what I am saying is this, you need to know what's

2651
03:41:41,610 --> 03:41:46,990
going on in the county. Come in and sit down and go through there. Don't listen to a commissioner.

2652
03:41:46,990 --> 03:41:54,330
don't listen to me. Come and sit down and go through and see what's going on because

2653
03:41:54,330 --> 03:41:59,350
we have commissioners right now that think they can call the housing department and tell

2654
03:41:59,350 --> 03:42:05,050
them to build someone's house and fix someone's house on state and federal money when that's

2655
03:42:05,050 --> 03:42:11,750
illegal. They do it almost every other week, but they've done it before and I tell people

2656
03:42:11,750 --> 03:42:17,570
all the time. And my aide can tell you the same thing I tell him. Do not do that because

2657
03:42:18,080 --> 03:42:23,090
this is illegal. You don't do that. We're not supposed to decide which person gets

2658
03:42:23,090 --> 03:42:30,270
something of which one does not. So I don't think we're doing bad. I do think that we

2659
03:42:30,270 --> 03:42:35,770
can use some improvements. Now I believe that. I believe that with my heart because I can

2660
03:42:35,770 --> 03:42:37,070
make some improvements myself.

2661
03:42:38,490 --> 03:42:40,690
But I do not believe that's a good decision

2662
03:42:40,690 --> 03:42:41,570
for this boy.

2663
03:42:42,710 --> 03:42:43,810
It's simply because of that.

2664
03:42:43,930 --> 03:42:45,210
When I hear people talking about parties,

2665
03:42:45,770 --> 03:42:47,250
that was your bicentennial.

2666
03:42:48,030 --> 03:42:50,750
That's why you were having all those activities last year.

2667
03:42:51,750 --> 03:42:54,070
I don't remember a party, but Leon County's

2668
03:42:54,070 --> 03:42:56,230
doing that right now because it's their bicentennial.

2669
03:42:57,210 --> 03:42:59,510
All the other counties will be doing the same thing,

2670
03:43:00,250 --> 03:43:02,310
simply because they want tourists to come.

2671
03:43:03,670 --> 03:43:07,330
They want people to come and visit their county because it's been money.

2672
03:43:08,390 --> 03:43:11,970
But as I said before, I do not believe that's a good idea.

2673
03:43:12,590 --> 03:43:17,710
Not because of friendship, because we have to keep the county running.

2674
03:43:20,090 --> 03:43:25,050
Not unintelligently, but you have to have a process in place.

2675
03:43:26,550 --> 03:43:28,850
That's what we need in place.

2676
03:43:29,470 --> 03:43:31,250
So I do not believe that's a good idea.

2677
03:43:31,250 --> 03:43:32,310
Yeah, thank you, Mr. Jim.

2678
03:43:32,810 --> 03:43:34,710
I thank you very much, Mr. Krueger.

2679
03:43:35,290 --> 03:43:40,350
Yes, thank you, and she pretty much stated the last thing that she stated is in reference to a process.

2680
03:43:41,230 --> 03:43:46,170
I do believe in that, and the two, especially one commission in particular, always talk about process.

2681
03:43:46,690 --> 03:43:52,810
And I would like for us to come up with the process and find out what the, whichever issues are.

2682
03:43:53,450 --> 03:43:57,410
And what's next, like if you make this call, what is next?

2683
03:43:58,090 --> 03:44:03,350
who's going to take this position come tomorrow, what's the plan?

2684
03:44:03,930 --> 03:44:07,310
I mean, and that's a question that needs to be answered tonight.

2685
03:44:07,790 --> 03:44:10,710
If for the ones who make the motion in seconded, what's the plan?

2686
03:44:11,050 --> 03:44:14,870
Like, I do believe in the next go around when the contract is up,

2687
03:44:15,030 --> 03:44:17,250
or six months prior to the contract being up,

2688
03:44:17,370 --> 03:44:20,830
I hope I don't even agree that we should publicly advertise the position.

2689
03:44:21,590 --> 03:44:23,870
And we should do a nationwide search.

2690
03:44:23,870 --> 03:44:31,330
We should have community input on it as it relates to the selection of a county administrator because again, we did not do that

2691
03:44:31,910 --> 03:44:37,610
prior to to to having Mr. Dixon and I think that Mr. Dixon should be given an opportunity to apply

2692
03:44:37,610 --> 03:44:44,790
whomever wants to apply should be given an opportunity to apply but changing hands all of the time

2693
03:44:44,790 --> 03:44:51,210
We're never going to get anywhere and it is so disheartening that we continue to just change hands

2694
03:44:51,210 --> 03:44:53,710
every time we see a new face on the board.

2695
03:44:54,150 --> 03:44:56,390
That's it, and we talk about growth,

2696
03:44:56,450 --> 03:44:57,330
we talk about development,

2697
03:44:57,590 --> 03:44:58,790
we're talking about moving forward.

2698
03:44:59,310 --> 03:44:59,730
And yeah.

2699
03:45:00,000 --> 03:45:29,440
I'm sorry, I just cannot passionately, and it has nothing to do with Mr. Dixon. I don't, you know, I don't know him on the level outside of this board. I just want things to be done the right and the best of our ability of it being done the right way. Come on, guys, we keep talking about moving forward. But then we're going to be stopped. Let's be realistic. And again, if there's a process in place, I'm going to hold her and support that process. I would love to have to see what else is out there.

2700
03:45:29,440 --> 03:45:33,440
as they're not nothing, no disrespect to him, but I would like to see what other opportunities

2701
03:45:33,440 --> 03:45:39,720
that we may have, that we did not look for it, we know prior to this, talking about

2702
03:45:39,720 --> 03:45:47,100
being fair, loving people, supporting people and having processes, let's just take that

2703
03:45:47,100 --> 03:45:51,900
into consideration and I already have an idea to where this is going, but I just want to

2704
03:45:51,900 --> 03:45:54,580
let that get that out of my spirit, so I'm done.

2705
03:45:58,440 --> 03:46:04,820
But you know what, just for sort of, so everyone will notice,

2706
03:46:08,340 --> 03:46:10,800
we, two months ago, before you got here,

2707
03:46:11,640 --> 03:46:16,680
let's do two months ago, maybe about four to five days ago, I'm not sure how many days go,

2708
03:46:16,740 --> 03:46:21,620
I can't get the second number, this board fired the attorney immediately.

2709
03:46:22,800 --> 03:46:25,740
In fact, just like that, they got rid of them.

2710
03:46:26,020 --> 03:46:28,260
So they did that.

2711
03:46:28,440 --> 03:46:30,160
I'm not trying to argue with the situation.

2712
03:46:30,600 --> 03:46:32,260
I don't have no personal things.

2713
03:46:32,440 --> 03:46:34,020
Sometimes it'd be a philosophical differences

2714
03:46:34,020 --> 03:46:35,580
or whatever it'd become, right?

2715
03:46:36,200 --> 03:46:38,800
I'm in the person, but my direct and his direct is not going

2716
03:46:38,800 --> 03:46:39,180
to direct ways.

2717
03:46:39,360 --> 03:46:41,340
I don't have to explain anything.

2718
03:46:41,840 --> 03:46:45,140
It's great for us not to explain to explain anything

2719
03:46:45,140 --> 03:46:48,020
because of situations that may occur.

2720
03:46:52,060 --> 03:46:56,700
I mean, I think the thing you said that kind of struck me the most is you said transition.

2721
03:46:58,120 --> 03:47:00,680
And that's what I said in mind I was not allowed to transition.

2722
03:47:01,740 --> 03:47:02,560
I did it for me.

2723
03:47:03,740 --> 03:47:04,800
There was none of this.

2724
03:47:05,600 --> 03:47:07,660
It was like this is what we're doing.

2725
03:47:08,940 --> 03:47:10,800
I felt like it put me out of place.

2726
03:47:12,260 --> 03:47:13,840
I would say we're headed a long time.

2727
03:47:14,840 --> 03:47:20,160
But the same lawyer that we're talking about is the same one that you introduced me to

2728
03:47:20,160 --> 03:47:27,000
and said, he's one of the sharpest young lawyers around, and you, him, and I, and Dr. Cooksy,

2729
03:47:27,360 --> 03:47:32,100
worked through COVID in a minority county that was a total disaster and we figured out

2730
03:47:32,100 --> 03:47:32,820
how to get it done.

2731
03:47:34,600 --> 03:47:41,990
But over the last few months, as we've really started looking at this, I told you I had

2732
03:47:41,990 --> 03:47:42,350
concern.

2733
03:47:43,190 --> 03:47:48,350
And I think you're good do I really do and I realize I am the third vote

2734
03:47:49,230 --> 03:47:54,130
And I wanted to say that publicly. I'm not afraid of it. I am going to speak my piece

2735
03:47:55,190 --> 03:47:59,290
And I am the third vote convention as much as I love y'all I'm telling you

2736
03:48:00,150 --> 03:48:03,070
But I will listen to whatever y'all can say to convince me

2737
03:48:05,040 --> 03:48:09,040
All right, we have okay. We got a motion one called a question real quick

2738
03:48:10,460 --> 03:48:14,460
she said called the question, she's on person here, so we have a vote on the question.

2739
03:48:14,900 --> 03:48:19,480
A commission that we have hands up still, you still have to recognize us.

2740
03:48:19,600 --> 03:48:22,460
Okay, go ahead, which one you guys want to speak.

2741
03:48:22,980 --> 03:48:24,280
All right, he's going to go pretty good.

2742
03:48:24,380 --> 03:48:27,220
No, no, no, no, I mean, I just want to bring clarity on the-

2743
03:48:27,220 --> 03:48:30,300
I'm just trying to move the meeting, that's all right, I know you ain't doing that.

2744
03:48:30,540 --> 03:48:37,260
All right, commission, now I've been where you are, my point is as it relates to the attorney process,

2745
03:48:37,260 --> 03:48:48,160
I just want that transparency to also be out there, that we know that that was a contract that was ended in February, that we was on a month to month contract.

2746
03:48:48,360 --> 03:48:56,720
We didn't just fire a firm, and it wasn't the attorney, it was a firm that did not, are you speaking to Mr. Knows?

2747
03:48:57,420 --> 03:48:58,220
I know.

2748
03:48:59,160 --> 03:48:59,380
Let me know.

2749
03:48:59,940 --> 03:49:00,280
Let me know.

2750
03:49:00,440 --> 03:49:00,580
Please.

2751
03:49:00,940 --> 03:49:07,740
Only because of the fact that it wasn't that it was a firm that did not reapply for the

2752
03:49:07,740 --> 03:49:08,020
job.

2753
03:49:08,760 --> 03:49:09,280
Let's be clear.

2754
03:49:09,380 --> 03:49:11,020
The people in front did not reapply for the job.

2755
03:49:13,040 --> 03:49:16,380
So in my opinion, we didn't fire the firm.

2756
03:49:17,000 --> 03:49:18,340
The firm did not reapply.

2757
03:49:18,520 --> 03:49:20,340
And I just wanted to bring that clarity.

2758
03:49:20,460 --> 03:49:20,820
That's all.

2759
03:49:20,980 --> 03:49:22,160
I mean, that's all I think.

2760
03:49:22,360 --> 03:49:23,040
I think we should.

2761
03:49:23,160 --> 03:49:24,200
Thank you.

2762
03:49:24,300 --> 03:49:25,000
Appreciate you, Commissioner.

2763
03:49:27,660 --> 03:49:34,760
Yes, you said clarify one thing on the attorney, that contract was already up and that happened

2764
03:49:34,760 --> 03:49:35,940
at the beginning of the year.

2765
03:49:36,600 --> 03:49:41,840
So that's what we did and that's why even in that transition period, there was plenty

2766
03:49:41,840 --> 03:49:48,820
of time to turn those contracts over the information over, to look at it, at least get some

2767
03:49:48,820 --> 03:49:54,320
some of those contracts done in the interim before we looked at anyone else.

2768
03:49:54,820 --> 03:49:59,980
As I said, when I spoke to the federal lobbyist and he said, you know, this...

2769
03:50:00,000 --> 03:50:28,840
This date's coming up on the congressman, former congressman now, only $4.6 million. They said that that has to be done. If not, you're going to lose the money. So I spoke with the federal lobbyist. I said, would you please see if you can save it. So those are the things that I look at. Waiting on, like I said, I'm going to you and I spoke. I said that these are some things that we need to look at.

2770
03:50:29,460 --> 03:50:41,120
But I cannot say that someone doesn't deserve to get some help and their neighborhood because we failed on a grant or on a contract.

2771
03:50:41,660 --> 03:50:55,140
I can't say that. That's why I call Mr. Pittman. And I said, Mr. Pittman, can you look at these things? Okay. So that's what I did. But what I wanted to say is this, if you have three votes, you're going to have your vote.

2772
03:50:55,140 --> 03:50:56,740
That's not the issue.

2773
03:50:57,260 --> 03:51:04,360
The issue with me is that even though Mr. Dixon and I have had several disagreements,

2774
03:51:06,200 --> 03:51:09,820
he did more than the last two administrators we had.

2775
03:51:10,560 --> 03:51:11,280
And that's true.

2776
03:51:12,560 --> 03:51:13,080
That's true.

2777
03:51:13,580 --> 03:51:14,540
I look at the evidence.

2778
03:51:15,220 --> 03:51:15,820
I'm a mathematician.

2779
03:51:15,820 --> 03:51:21,180
I'm going to look at what does the evidence say when we can get those employees to make

2780
03:51:21,180 --> 03:51:21,760
sure money.

2781
03:51:23,580 --> 03:51:27,080
They started figuring out how to get them a bonus, how do we get them some money?

2782
03:51:27,360 --> 03:51:28,240
What do we need to do?

2783
03:51:29,140 --> 03:51:34,180
We had to go back and get money for the deputies, because there was no money there, and

2784
03:51:34,180 --> 03:51:36,660
the government said, you're going to have to raise that salary.

2785
03:51:36,820 --> 03:51:41,220
We did that, but we had to make sure we had money to pay them after that year.

2786
03:51:42,520 --> 03:51:44,780
So there have been several things that we've done.

2787
03:51:45,260 --> 03:51:49,420
Some of them that we could have done better, but let me tell you this much.

2788
03:51:50,180 --> 03:51:54,340
It was a lot worse when I came.

2789
03:51:56,040 --> 03:52:00,220
It was a lot worse, but everyone seemed happy.

2790
03:52:00,340 --> 03:52:04,240
Can we have quiet, it's important, I'd like to hear what you say.

2791
03:52:04,740 --> 03:52:10,360
Oh, it's whoever talking, please give me some respect.

2792
03:52:10,980 --> 03:52:18,260
No, but the reason I'm saying that is because you had to know how things were going when

2793
03:52:18,260 --> 03:52:21,560
when you came in, we couldn't even get to the podium

2794
03:52:21,560 --> 03:52:24,380
and speak like you're doing now, okay?

2795
03:52:25,020 --> 03:52:26,620
You couldn't go up there and speak on issues,

2796
03:52:26,780 --> 03:52:28,860
got to say this is a board issue, they stopped you,

2797
03:52:28,860 --> 03:52:31,780
you couldn't speak, and so we had to try,

2798
03:52:31,900 --> 03:52:33,900
did you get work hard to get that change?

2799
03:52:34,960 --> 03:52:37,600
You could not come to this commission

2800
03:52:37,600 --> 03:52:40,460
and say I want to get this on the agenda, wouldn't happen.

2801
03:52:41,700 --> 03:52:43,640
And if you were new like, you're new,

2802
03:52:44,260 --> 03:52:47,020
they wouldn't even let you add anything to their agenda.

2803
03:52:48,360 --> 03:52:54,160
So when you're looking at those things and if you were like you say you've been to a lot of black churches

2804
03:52:54,700 --> 03:52:58,360
Those black communities couldn't get anything. It couldn't get roles paved

2805
03:52:58,900 --> 03:53:06,180
They couldn't get them it wasn't gonna happen and I had to go along with to Orlando and

2806
03:53:06,920 --> 03:53:13,500
And in a workshop and ask for bond money. How did we bond money? How do we get it kind of came back said we don't bond money

2807
03:53:14,640 --> 03:53:17,940
How do we pay even those neighborhoods where the people can't even get out?

2808
03:53:18,200 --> 03:53:19,640
It's so murder to go to work.

2809
03:53:20,720 --> 03:53:25,740
It had not been for Bill McGill on this board and Ed Dixon,

2810
03:53:25,980 --> 03:53:28,420
we would not, those neighborhoods still wouldn't have paid them.

2811
03:53:30,020 --> 03:53:32,420
So that's the kind of stuff that I'm talking about.

2812
03:53:33,300 --> 03:53:37,180
And to say that, okay, we're just going to do this and

2813
03:53:37,800 --> 03:53:41,640
certain people can be disrespectful and the others don't have to be, you know,

2814
03:53:41,640 --> 03:53:43,460
That doesn't make any sense.

2815
03:53:44,420 --> 03:53:47,620
It makes sense if the county is moving like it should.

2816
03:53:48,160 --> 03:53:53,800
And if it doesn't, then once you get the seat and sit down and go do these things and

2817
03:53:53,800 --> 03:53:54,800
see what's going on.

2818
03:53:55,380 --> 03:53:58,360
And then say, hey, look, we no longer need your services.

2819
03:53:58,680 --> 03:53:59,500
That's all I'm saying.

2820
03:53:59,900 --> 03:54:04,120
Even with Mr. Moore, he'll tell you I called him when all this stuff first happened.

2821
03:54:04,580 --> 03:54:04,960
That's me.

2822
03:54:05,360 --> 03:54:05,800
I'm a call.

2823
03:54:06,220 --> 03:54:09,720
Two different times in this meeting, I said, if you have any questions about gas and

2824
03:54:09,720 --> 03:54:18,180
or Commissioner, call 850-510-9162, same thing I put on Facebook because I don't want

2825
03:54:18,180 --> 03:54:23,120
to talk about you in public, I want to talk to you to your face or at least on the phone.

2826
03:54:24,820 --> 03:54:31,300
So that's why you'll see I don't ask about particulars, I say particulars, because we all do it.

2827
03:54:32,500 --> 03:54:37,740
But anyway, as I said, I know the things that we have accomplished and we would not have

2828
03:54:37,740 --> 03:54:40,980
But those things are accomplished if we had not had Mr. Dickson.

2829
03:54:41,300 --> 03:54:46,260
Now, Mr. Dickson did pretty good too, you know, on some of the things she was doing.

2830
03:54:47,260 --> 03:54:51,500
But if you did not have these people in place, we're part time commissioners.

2831
03:54:51,560 --> 03:54:52,820
We're not done here every day.

2832
03:54:53,560 --> 03:54:55,200
Somebody has to make this wheelchair turn.

2833
03:54:55,660 --> 03:54:59,900
But as I said before, if you have three votes, you know what you're going to do.

2834
03:55:00,000 --> 03:55:01,460
Let's do it.

2835
03:55:03,480 --> 03:55:28,840
Okay. So what's the what's the next like what plan do y'all have? Like I will tell you that as soon as as soon as as soon as we make the motion because there's no reason to talk about anything. No, we need to know what direction. When we get the direction, what's got this right here? They want to say the plan. We are most of them make the motion. The commission digs themselves. We got to move forward. It's almost 11 o'clock.

2836
03:55:30,640 --> 03:55:35,840
I'm just saying I let him talk throughout the whole time but not the board the board talking now

2837
03:55:35,840 --> 03:55:43,300
That's why I allow Mr. Dixon to speak earlier because I want him to talk about the he talked for a while about that

2838
03:55:43,300 --> 03:55:47,780
And I want to be fair about that. That's what I did before right now. It's the board now. I want to make sure the board

2839
03:55:49,320 --> 03:55:51,760
Okay, we have most on the floor

2840
03:55:52,560 --> 03:55:57,660
Most we got a motion to move forward with this right here

2841
03:55:58,860 --> 03:56:06,340
all in favor, so I want to pose a 3-2 vote to

2842
03:56:06,340 --> 03:56:11,960
determine the mistakes in the country and while we hear this is what I suggest,

2843
03:56:12,420 --> 03:56:16,240
I had an opportunity to talk to several people they didn't realize what I was talking about,

2844
03:56:16,240 --> 03:56:20,760
but this is what I was talking to about and one of the things that I was,

2845
03:56:20,980 --> 03:56:24,340
they didn't realize what I was talking to, I was talking to three or four people

2846
03:56:24,860 --> 03:56:29,580
And in general, because I heard Rommel is what was going on and really I started about a business.

2847
03:56:30,740 --> 03:56:44,040
No I do, I don't hang out, but I would like to now make the motion to reason bringing this guy to this guy to be the interim.

2848
03:56:44,700 --> 03:56:49,320
Because of his experience and a lot of different things in transportation.

2849
03:56:49,880 --> 03:56:56,880
work with the airport, work with the school system, work with a lot of different things that this person worked with.

2850
03:56:57,340 --> 03:57:05,240
I just like to make a motion to bring Roger Milton as kind of just the interim for about four or five months.

2851
03:57:05,980 --> 03:57:12,380
We can just have somebody just for right now, you can go with it or whoever you want to bring in.

2852
03:57:13,060 --> 03:57:14,520
That's an idea that I have.

2853
03:57:14,980 --> 03:57:19,540
We don't have to go with that motion, that's just ideal, then I'll prove the motion whoever y'all want to prove.

2854
03:57:19,720 --> 03:57:23,400
That's just my little idea, but we can go whatever y'all want to go with, from that point.

2855
03:57:23,480 --> 03:57:34,060
We just need some American to come from about three or four months until we find somebody else, who understand administrative things, that way then we can get the right person to come here and lead guests kind of forward.

2856
03:57:34,480 --> 03:57:35,400
Do y'all have anybody else on mind?

2857
03:57:36,560 --> 03:57:37,440
I have a comment.

2858
03:57:38,740 --> 03:57:41,260
We can make a motion for anyone coming up.

2859
03:57:41,280 --> 03:57:42,760
But I want to, I want to make a comment.

2860
03:57:43,920 --> 03:57:49,340
Okay, my coming is at least get someone that's a familiar with county government he is very familiar

2861
03:57:49,340 --> 03:57:55,540
I'm not county government. That's cool. That's different. No, he's no Roger's more than school Roger Roger was Roger

2862
03:57:57,020 --> 03:57:59,040
No, no, no, no, no, can't can I?

2863
03:57:59,100 --> 03:58:05,640
Can I hold on say that's not school? It's not school. This man's a business guy. This guy developed this guy's contract

2864
03:58:05,640 --> 03:58:07,100
This guy worked with

2865
03:58:08,200 --> 03:58:09,700
for almost 30 years.

2866
03:58:10,040 --> 03:58:13,460
Roger Milton, that's like he was making $130,000 there.

2867
03:58:13,540 --> 03:58:14,300
Yeah, traffic control.

2868
03:58:14,500 --> 03:58:16,720
Right, we need to pardon with their report

2869
03:58:16,720 --> 03:58:17,840
and make sure we get this.

2870
03:58:18,040 --> 03:58:19,800
I saw a far-fetched Jew there.

2871
03:58:20,140 --> 03:58:21,420
They're just my well-ficked.

2872
03:58:21,560 --> 03:58:22,320
I like to think big.

2873
03:58:22,740 --> 03:58:26,500
I like to think outside the box so we can

2874
03:58:26,900 --> 03:58:28,480
build this infrastructure straight.

2875
03:58:29,060 --> 03:58:30,020
Now that was just an idea.

2876
03:58:30,600 --> 03:58:31,200
Can we get quiet?

2877
03:58:31,640 --> 03:58:33,880
No, we have questions.

2878
03:58:33,880 --> 03:58:34,480
Can we get quiet?

2879
03:58:34,620 --> 03:58:34,860
I want to hear it.

2880
03:58:34,860 --> 03:58:35,680
Yeah, yeah, can we be quiet?

2881
03:58:35,840 --> 03:58:36,320
I want to hear it.

2882
03:58:36,500 --> 03:58:39,680
We can be quiet real quick so we can be able to move forward.

2883
03:58:40,220 --> 03:58:41,580
That was just an idea for me.

2884
03:58:41,780 --> 03:58:42,820
Somebody just may have another motion.

2885
03:58:43,160 --> 03:58:45,820
We got to pick a motion and flow for an interim person.

2886
03:58:46,560 --> 03:58:49,700
So, who do you want, Mr. Green?

2887
03:58:51,500 --> 03:58:52,520
You can pick a person.

2888
03:58:53,080 --> 03:58:58,140
No, I'm not about picking because I wasn't, again, I wasn't expecting.

2889
03:58:58,600 --> 03:59:01,300
Although I was hearing the rumbles in the community as well.

2890
03:59:01,300 --> 03:59:06,700
But I was definitely hoping that we would have another plan or another go through another process

2891
03:59:06,700 --> 03:59:13,540
But I do and no offense to Mr. Milton because I think much more than is a great guy by all means and I'm not even sure if you had

2892
03:59:13,540 --> 03:59:15,360
Conversation with him or not about this

2893
03:59:15,920 --> 03:59:18,720
But I if we hear I don't know

2894
03:59:19,180 --> 03:59:23,700
What how we get through this part from the legal piece of it from point A to point B to see a D

2895
03:59:23,700 --> 03:59:29,780
But I think that we should at least give opportunity for someone who have been here before and

2896
03:59:29,780 --> 03:59:35,880
And, um, I mean, this has caught me off guard, but I, I, I'm going to her to name call early

2897
03:59:35,880 --> 03:59:40,040
and then I'm, she's probably going to say no, but I will like to us to consider Ms.

2898
03:59:40,120 --> 03:59:46,260
D. Jackson for interim, I mean, just, interim, I'm just, I'm caught off guard with this.

2899
03:59:46,320 --> 03:59:48,400
I'm just trying to think of what, what, what do we go with this?

2900
03:59:48,580 --> 03:59:49,600
What do we do with this?

2901
03:59:49,820 --> 03:59:55,680
Because I just would like to have somebody that has been involved in this government at

2902
03:59:55,680 --> 03:59:56,320
some point.

2903
03:59:56,320 --> 03:59:59,280
So I am just lost, honestly.

2904
04:00:00,000 --> 04:00:28,960
Do you have a person? So my thought is it's not to be too quick to jump here. And where you find someone who is inside, it works here, that will get you through the next two weeks. So the two commissioners that voted a different way that they have the opportunity to vet somebody. I don't want to do anything to them that's not fair. And I think that whoever you have as a senior member,

2905
04:00:29,720 --> 04:00:38,240
that's in here, that you feel is capable, I think them until we have the next meeting and then we've had the names.

2906
04:00:38,420 --> 04:00:44,740
Now a person that probably, normally what we did last time, we brought in Mr.

2907
04:00:44,880 --> 04:00:47,680
Raul Pressnell, he was the public worst director, right?

2908
04:00:50,360 --> 04:00:55,100
And you know, you have a public director, whatever y'all want to do, you guys can,

2909
04:00:55,100 --> 04:01:01,340
I mean, we just need to pick an interim that can be able to sustain this until we get there.

2910
04:01:01,740 --> 04:01:02,160
Yeah.

2911
04:01:04,370 --> 04:01:05,130
Yes, ma'am.

2912
04:01:05,450 --> 04:01:11,030
I think Roosevelt Mars, we could hold down things for a couple of months.

2913
04:01:11,950 --> 04:01:19,770
Which are, whatever y'all want to go with, it's just that we need to have somebody on board that can hold on the phone for about three months.

2914
04:01:20,870 --> 04:01:21,530
That's emotional.

2915
04:01:22,230 --> 04:01:22,570
That's emotional.

2916
04:01:23,490 --> 04:01:24,970
No, that's not well-known.

2917
04:01:24,970 --> 04:01:31,370
Well, we need to go through, I'm sorry, just for the temporary, I thank you for your way.

2918
04:01:31,890 --> 04:01:38,910
Now, the reason why I think Roosevelt is a great person for one, the reason why what I was looking at somebody who

2919
04:01:38,910 --> 04:01:43,570
have administrative experience too is when Roosevelt got that he has all of that, what I'm just saying,

2920
04:01:43,810 --> 04:01:49,310
that's the reason why I was saying during that time, so we got to have someone who understands

2921
04:01:49,310 --> 04:01:50,410
legislatures too as well.

2922
04:01:50,410 --> 04:01:55,590
Let me say this. The reason I said Roosevelt, and I'm going to be very honest with you.

2923
04:01:55,850 --> 04:01:58,730
If you're going to do this, you need to go and start advertised.

2924
04:01:59,110 --> 04:01:59,650
He's an awesome guy.

2925
04:01:59,650 --> 04:02:05,350
Let me finish. Let go ahead and you need to start advertising because this position takes

2926
04:02:05,350 --> 04:02:11,090
time. Even if you're going to do something else later, but you need to go ahead and get

2927
04:02:11,090 --> 04:02:16,430
that advertisement out there. Because even if you say we're only going to do this for a month,

2928
04:02:16,430 --> 04:02:24,630
People do not change their jobs that quickly, and so they have to have an idea about this stuff.

2929
04:02:25,010 --> 04:02:28,970
The other thing is, as I said, he's on Roosevelt's already here.

2930
04:02:29,270 --> 04:02:35,130
He stepped in from Mr. Dixon a few times, so that's the only thing I can think of.

2931
04:02:35,330 --> 04:02:41,370
So we have Roosevelt, do we have another person, our commission's symptoms, you got to, I have my hand up.

2932
04:02:43,550 --> 04:03:11,250
I mean, I was just going to the time frame, if we were stating two weeks, 30 days, I think that it needs to be at least 90 days minimum so that we can do a due diligence on advertising and for the position so I just want to make sure that we give enough time for us to come back to have a workshop on the process and the things that go over our process.

2933
04:03:13,610 --> 04:03:18,430
We got to make sure it's just commuter symptoms first, then we'll come back.

2934
04:03:19,110 --> 04:03:21,530
Okay, thank you, Mr. Chair.

2935
04:03:21,730 --> 04:03:29,350
The reason I said the 30 days was because we know that it may take a while.

2936
04:03:29,650 --> 04:03:40,950
So, Mr. Morris, until we determine, until we can do a special meeting to the,

2937
04:03:40,950 --> 04:03:47,050
for us to come together and decide who we could have for a long-term

2938
04:03:47,050 --> 04:03:52,110
interim until we're able to get a permanent administrator.

2939
04:03:52,490 --> 04:03:56,250
So that was the reason I gave that time frame.

2940
04:03:58,610 --> 04:04:02,330
One other comment, one other suggestion.

2941
04:04:03,650 --> 04:04:06,990
The Florida Association of Counties provide range riders.

2942
04:04:06,990 --> 04:04:15,170
The range riders, the range riders are former administrators that now retired out and they

2943
04:04:15,170 --> 04:04:20,670
have a program that, and we've used that program before, so we could contact the Florida

2944
04:04:20,670 --> 04:04:25,930
Association of Counties in the morning and find out if they have anyone available.

2945
04:04:28,280 --> 04:04:29,460
And who's going to do that?

2946
04:04:30,560 --> 04:04:32,520
I guess we have to be rosy there.

2947
04:04:34,300 --> 04:04:44,940
I just want to make sure that there's direction given so we don't say what somebody do and it doesn't get done well

2948
04:04:44,940 --> 04:04:45,920
I move that we

2949
04:04:46,900 --> 04:04:49,160
We're roles are here right now right there

2950
04:04:49,160 --> 04:04:55,540
Roseville fully qualified. He's been a city manager everything else to as well. He has all this unbelievers

2951
04:04:55,540 --> 04:04:59,000
Yeah, he was a city manager back in the days. He else he else

2952
04:05:00,000 --> 04:05:27,620
We have nothing experienced in telling that a lot of folks don't have, so I- That's my motion. So we got a motion on the floor with- So for Roosevelt- We didn't- Okay, four. Clear it up. Get the time plan and- Okay. We're doing- Oh, we- We may take them a minute now to get a range rider, but right now I put in the motion for two months. We're going to give them some time if they get someone up until two months, if they get somebody before them.

2953
04:05:29,160 --> 04:05:30,300
And look at that candidate.

2954
04:05:30,960 --> 04:05:37,240
And also to how do we keep Roosevelt at the same pay now or how I know something won't

2955
04:05:37,240 --> 04:05:37,820
be fair.

2956
04:05:39,240 --> 04:05:43,480
We got to make sure we are just as paid to as well to have the other responsibility.

2957
04:05:46,240 --> 04:05:51,260
So I guess we're talking all the things are in on the polls.

2958
04:05:52,100 --> 04:05:52,760
All right.

2959
04:05:52,980 --> 04:05:54,420
All right.

2960
04:05:55,940 --> 04:05:56,700
So that's it.

2961
04:05:56,700 --> 04:05:58,580
Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, you say you won't have any.

2962
04:05:58,580 --> 04:05:59,940
Sorry, go ahead, go ahead, Ms. Cadamins, right?

2963
04:06:00,500 --> 04:06:05,600
Mr. Chairman, commissioners, let me thank you for the opportunity to serve you.

2964
04:06:06,220 --> 04:06:08,300
It truly has been my pleasure.

2965
04:06:09,320 --> 04:06:11,240
We did some great things together.

2966
04:06:12,240 --> 04:06:15,520
As you know, I'll go away, but I won't go far.

2967
04:06:16,680 --> 04:06:21,020
We've taken the budget from 50 million to almost 70 million.

2968
04:06:21,640 --> 04:06:25,960
So you're on your way, and it is a great job, whoever gets it.

2969
04:06:26,720 --> 04:06:30,660
We'll be doing a great thing to those folk who work with me

2970
04:06:31,320 --> 04:06:33,000
Y'all stay strong now

2971
04:06:34,380 --> 04:06:35,660
You're what I say

2972
04:06:36,300 --> 04:06:38,200
This is politics that happens

2973
04:06:39,100 --> 04:06:41,840
There were four there were there were

2974
04:06:42,940 --> 04:06:45,820
Seven administrators in ten years before I came

2975
04:06:46,420 --> 04:06:47,000
seven

2976
04:06:47,600 --> 04:06:50,060
In ten years it happens

2977
04:06:51,100 --> 04:06:54,560
They offered it to me they're often they'll offer it to someone else

2978
04:06:55,200 --> 04:06:55,700
Okay

2979
04:06:56,640 --> 04:07:02,020
Maybe they'll take their job as seriously as I did, hopefully they will, and this county will take another leap.

2980
04:07:02,220 --> 04:07:04,980
So, thank you commissioners for the opportunity to serve.

2981
04:07:05,480 --> 04:07:08,600
It truly has been my pleasure.

2982
04:07:09,400 --> 04:07:11,660
Okay, thank you Mr. County administrative for your service.

2983
04:07:12,240 --> 04:07:17,560
Also too, do you want to sketch another meeting to talk about the next process before we leave?

2984
04:07:17,820 --> 04:07:21,620
Because so everybody can be on the same page, the

2985
04:07:26,960 --> 04:07:29,560
way to next meeting, okay, meeting adjourned.

2986
04:07:34,510 --> 04:07:40,170
Don't get it. Don't get it twisted. Don't twist it up. Don't twist it up.

2987
04:07:43,510 --> 04:07:44,790
Yeah. Don't twist it up.

2988
04:07:46,750 --> 04:07:51,310
Mr. Chairman. Yeah. There's going to be a problem if I show up tomorrow and clean the desk out.

2989
04:07:51,790 --> 04:07:55,470
Oh you, yeah. Yeah. I'm cool. Okay. Get the person down. Thank you.

2990
04:07:55,570 --> 04:07:56,630
Bill and Chulis, nothing personal.

2991
04:07:59,690 --> 04:08:02,770
My pleasure. You're seeing me. Okay.

2992
04:08:02,770 --> 04:08:03,050
We'll be waiting for you, OK?

2993
04:08:03,230 --> 04:08:03,730
Yes, sir?

2994
04:08:04,110 --> 04:08:04,930
Permission to sign.

2995
04:08:05,530 --> 04:08:05,950
All right.

2996
04:08:06,530 --> 04:08:07,450
I'll land in line.

2997
04:08:07,630 --> 04:08:07,930
I know we're here.

2998
04:08:09,690 --> 04:08:10,430
Where are we?

2999
04:08:10,490 --> 04:08:11,090
That's how it is.

3000
04:08:11,550 --> 04:08:12,250
All right.

3001
04:08:12,590 --> 04:08:13,290
It's time.

3002
04:08:15,070 --> 04:08:16,030
Good job.

3003
04:08:16,410 --> 04:08:18,170
I'll be on the man I do.

3004
04:08:18,770 --> 04:08:20,910
I'll be on the man I do.

3005
04:08:21,910 --> 04:08:23,010
You have to get my child.

3006
04:08:24,230 --> 04:08:24,590
All right.

3007
04:08:25,230 --> 04:08:25,750
That way.

3008
04:08:26,010 --> 04:08:32,390
I'll be on the man I do.