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>> mayor: good morning,

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everyone.

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welcome to the gainesville cit

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y

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commission.

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as we speak, there are three

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americans and a canadian on

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their way to the moon from

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florida.

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from right here in the sunshine

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one of those americans is a

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black man piloting the ship.

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one is a woman for the first

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time, it's the first time a

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black man or a woman have gone

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to the moon.

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we should take note of this, and

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it gives me hope that if we as

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nation and a world are able to

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send people to the moon --

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again, from the sunshine state,

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not anywhere else, that we can

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do some great things for our

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folks right here in this room

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today.

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madam clerk?

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>> mr. Mayor, we have the

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invocation, given by reverend

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katherine dearlove.

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>> thank you.

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I invite you to pray or reflect

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with me.

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let's pause for a moment of

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reflection.

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grounding ourselves in the

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shared reason that brings us

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today.

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we come from many shared

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experiences, some of us name t

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sacred as god, the spirit,

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creator or source of life.

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connection and justice and

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compassion.

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or in the quiet wisdom of

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conscience.

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whatever our path, we are united

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in the responsibility serving

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the common good.

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may this gathering be guided b

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wisdom.

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the wisdom to weigh decisions

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carefully, and seek

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understanding even in

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disagreement.

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may we be guided by courage, t

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courage to act with integrity.

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to stand for what is right and

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just.

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and to make decisions that ser

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not only the present but the

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may we be guided by compassion

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that every policy, every

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discussion, every vote touches

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the lives of the real people I

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our community.

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especially those whose voices

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are too often unheard.

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and may we be guided by

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humility, recognizing that non

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of us holds all the answers, b

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together we can move through a

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more just and inclusive and

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thriving community.

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in this spirit, let the work

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begin today with open minds,

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steady hearts and a dedication

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to the well being of all.

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>> mayor: thank you, pastor.

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>> we are on to the agenda, we

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have the update list on the

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>> mayor:  commissioner willit

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>> I'd like to pull 2026-024 -

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>> number ten on the consent.

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>> that sounds good.

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>> mayor: before we move on.

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is there public comment?

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>> there is no public comment.

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on the consent agenda, are a

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multiplicity of items that the

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passed on to us, if anyone has

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any questions about those, our

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city auditor is here, and I

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would encourage you to make tim

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to speak with him offline.

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about that, they all received

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unanimous vote, all two of us,

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from the audit committee.

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I don't want those to go

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unnoticed.

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but I'm glad we can keep them

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the consent agenda to receive.

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that said, madam clerk, all in

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favor?

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>> aye.

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>> mayor: any opposed?

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that passes unanimously.

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>> mr. Mayor, 2026-234, oak par

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disposition letter of support.

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for rehabilitation of oak park

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>> mayor: commissioner willits,

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you had the question?

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>> mr. Harris remind us abo

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what support we've provided to

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this project in particular,

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through gainesville housing.

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>> mayor: certainly.

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mr. Manager?

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>> good morning, mr. Mayor, to

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of the sale applications.

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so it's a grant for 37,500, so

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>> okay, and this is a park

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which is going to be -- these

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our project, it's the

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gainesville housing authority'

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>> if you don't mind, the

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developer is here, gha is here

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reminder.

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>> malcolm kynes.

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development, off main street a

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it needs a lot of love.

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misspeak, in the range of 38 t

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$39 million of this developmen

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we have hired a relocation

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specialist, similar to our

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woodland park project, which

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will help enable those

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individuals to relocate.

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they will walk them through it

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they have certain rights

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assigned by the federal

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government, we ensure those

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folks are taken care of.

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once the building has been

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totally redeveloped.

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this letter is basically a

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letter saying that the city of

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gainesville supports us in

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redeveloping the property, and

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it's provided to hud, it's a

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form letter we sent over to th

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a few comments on this before w

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move forward.

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we support gainesville housing

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authority in different ways,

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for our larger chunk, affordabl

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development housing funds that

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were leftover from arpa and to

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general fund.

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did not receive, but we did hav

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at least the small amount.

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our community has a lot of

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expectations on how we spend o

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affordable housing dollars,

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there's currently some concerns

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I know that commissioner dunca

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walker, speak of the devil --

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speak of the commissioner,

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excuse me.

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some on going concerns, maybe

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this is out of frustration,

317
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general housing crisis or at

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least tightness in the market,

319
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320
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where below 100% of ami, we

321
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really need more units, more

322
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affordability, so that -- I

323
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think it's part of our --

324
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tension we're feeling, we're

325
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looking at all of our partners

326
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327
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to achieve at their highest and

328
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329
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best.

330
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but that also means not just

331
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the -- I'm a big fan of new

332
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units, existing units about the

333
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334
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quality of them, and how peopl

335
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e

336
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live in those -- how our

337
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neighbors live in those homes,

338
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I

339
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want to bring it up as a conce

340
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rn

341
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of mine.

342
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and when we put our stamp of

343
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approval on the letter and cas

344
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h

345
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funds, the auditor, I spoke to

346
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347
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the auditor recently about, how

348
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349
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on some of our grant funding, w

350
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e

351
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don't have a strict policy abo

352
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ut

353
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the ability to audit, at least

354
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355
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the funds we give of our

356
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nonprofit partners, that is

357
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something suggested by the

358
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auditors, something we need in

359
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360
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every time we give money.

361
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because we are responsible for

362
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363
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the money we give.

364
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to our taxpayers, to our

365
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residents, to our neighbors, I

366
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367
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bring this up as a concern I'm

368
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369
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hearing in the community about

370
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371
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the long term relationship

372
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between the city and gainesvil

373
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le

374
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housing authority and that it

375
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376
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goes forward.

377
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again, I say some of this to m

378
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y

379
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colleagues is about the tension

380
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381
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we feel, the angst we feel,

382
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we're trying to figure out eve

383
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ry

384
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last thing we do, limited

385
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budget, but how we spend it wit

386
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h

387
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whom, which partners, we have

388
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389
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several partners, some of them

390
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391
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are private developers who we

392
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393
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provide a substitute and it's a

394
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395
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subsidy per door that brings t

396
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he

397
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prices down, even up to 120% of

398
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399
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ami.

400
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mr. Kiner thank you for being

401
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402
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here.

403
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it's a comment to my fellow

404
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commissioners how we spend our

405
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406
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money.

407
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there's some concerns about the

408
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409
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balance between having to keep

410
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411
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enough money in all of our

412
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partners pockets so they can

413
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build new housing or do

414
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renovations, what happens in th

415
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e

416
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meantime between now and then.

417
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418
00:14:02,766 --> 00:14:04,373
how our neighbors have to live

419
00:14:04,373 --> 00:14:04,876


420
00:14:04,876 --> 00:14:10,706
w they're being serviced   by who

421
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by whohey pay thr rent to.

422
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that's all I got.

423
00:14:11,164 --> 00:14:17,887
[ inaudible ]

424
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>> our board has challenged us

425
00:14:19,146 --> 00:14:19,556
,

426
00:14:19,556 --> 00:14:21,490
we just completed a new

427
00:14:21,490 --> 00:14:23,153
strategic plan that will take u

428
00:14:23,153 --> 00:14:23,153
s

429
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from 2025 to 2030.

430
00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:27,795
has challenged us to bring bac

431
00:14:27,795 --> 00:14:27,924
k

432
00:14:27,924 --> 00:14:30,127
on line 600 housing

433
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opportunities.

434
00:14:30,127 --> 00:14:33,156
and an additional 100 through

435
00:14:33,156 --> 00:14:33,156


436
00:14:33,156 --> 00:14:34,090
our instrumentality.

437
00:14:34,090 --> 00:14:35,864
that's our goal, we're

438
00:14:35,864 --> 00:14:36,994
aggressive pursuing that,

439
00:14:36,994 --> 00:14:38,212
through things like the choice

440
00:14:38,212 --> 00:14:38,664


441
00:14:38,664 --> 00:14:40,264
program, and also through rfa'

442
00:14:40,264 --> 00:14:42,040
s

443
00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:46,869
at the state level

444
00:14:46,869 --> 00:14:47,323
>> mayor: very good.

445
00:14:47,323 --> 00:14:50,306
we have multiple lights,

446
00:14:50,306 --> 00:14:50,733
commissioner chestnut.

447
00:14:50,733 --> 00:14:55,287
>> this facility is in my

448
00:14:55,287 --> 00:14:56,480
neighborhood, and as I recall,

449
00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:56,948


450
00:14:56,948 --> 00:14:58,550
the only thing that's been

451
00:14:58,550 --> 00:14:59,180
renovated there has been the

452
00:14:59,180 --> 00:14:59,422
parking lot.

453
00:14:59,422 --> 00:15:05,386
but it is in very dire need of

454
00:15:05,386 --> 00:15:05,861


455
00:15:05,861 --> 00:15:07,800
renovation, and I think that t

456
00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:07,800
he

457
00:15:07,800 --> 00:15:11,162
residents totally welcome this

458
00:15:11,162 --> 00:15:11,162
.

459
00:15:11,162 --> 00:15:13,134
and it's the facility that has

460
00:15:13,134 --> 00:15:13,306
a

461
00:15:13,306 --> 00:15:15,672
mixture of residents, and I

462
00:15:15,672 --> 00:15:16,444
think that's what's very good

463
00:15:16,444 --> 00:15:16,444


464
00:15:16,444 --> 00:15:16,758
about it as well.

465
00:15:16,758 --> 00:15:23,779
>> mayor: thank you,

466
00:15:23,779 --> 00:15:25,459
commissioner chestnut.

467
00:15:25,459 --> 00:15:26,448
>> how many units?

468
00:15:26,448 --> 00:15:32,092
>> it's 101 units.

469
00:15:32,092 --> 00:15:35,896
it's a 60/40 split between one

470
00:15:35,896 --> 00:15:35,987


471
00:15:35,987 --> 00:15:36,320
bedrooms and studios.

472
00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:38,560
>> thank you.

473
00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:40,474
I missed your initial comments

474
00:15:40,474 --> 00:15:41,351
,

475
00:15:41,351 --> 00:15:43,131
but I can certainly prern what

476
00:15:43,131 --> 00:15:43,665
I'

477
00:15:43,665 --> 00:15:44,994
I've heard thus far from my

478
00:15:44,994 --> 00:15:47,006
colleagues, I would like to ask

479
00:15:47,006 --> 00:15:47,230


480
00:15:47,230 --> 00:15:47,230
this.

481
00:15:47,230 --> 00:15:49,375
when was the last time that we

482
00:15:49,375 --> 00:15:49,537


483
00:15:49,537 --> 00:15:52,342
had a meeting with gha?

484
00:15:52,342 --> 00:15:55,676
was it about two years ago,

485
00:15:55,676 --> 00:15:55,676
three?

486
00:15:55,676 --> 00:15:58,346
>> spring of '23?

487
00:15:58,346 --> 00:16:02,233
>> it was april 4, 2023.

488
00:16:02,233 --> 00:16:04,329
>> april 4 of 2023.

489
00:16:04,329 --> 00:16:06,857
>> that was the date the

490
00:16:06,857 --> 00:16:07,544
decision came out for the

491
00:16:07,544 --> 00:16:07,544
choice.

492
00:16:07,544 --> 00:16:09,820
>> I would like to see us meet

493
00:16:09,820 --> 00:16:09,962
a

494
00:16:09,962 --> 00:16:10,991
little more frequently.

495
00:16:10,991 --> 00:16:11,722
>> no problem.

496
00:16:11,722 --> 00:16:13,694
>> I think there is -- clearly

497
00:16:13,694 --> 00:16:13,896


498
00:16:13,896 --> 00:16:15,298
we field a lot of questions tha

499
00:16:15,298 --> 00:16:15,298
t

500
00:16:15,298 --> 00:16:17,196
we can't or shouldn't even

501
00:16:17,196 --> 00:16:18,450
attempt to answer, but also, I

502
00:16:18,450 --> 00:16:18,834
n

503
00:16:18,834 --> 00:16:21,704
light of our partnership, how I

504
00:16:21,704 --> 00:16:21,704
t

505
00:16:21,704 --> 00:16:23,508
may be expanding or what your

506
00:16:23,508 --> 00:16:23,508


507
00:16:23,508 --> 00:16:25,976
desires are, I feel the need t

508
00:16:25,976 --> 00:16:26,103
o

509
00:16:26,103 --> 00:16:26,988
expand our opportunities to

510
00:16:26,988 --> 00:16:29,945
speak with you, so I am curious

511
00:16:29,945 --> 00:16:30,252


512
00:16:30,252 --> 00:16:31,846
about my colleagues and what

513
00:16:31,846 --> 00:16:35,554
your thoughts are on maybe

514
00:16:35,554 --> 00:16:37,127
literally slid fig an annual

515
00:16:37,127 --> 00:16:37,762
meeting at least.

516
00:16:37,762 --> 00:16:40,016
maybe something in -- with roo

517
00:16:40,016 --> 00:16:40,331
m

518
00:16:40,331 --> 00:16:41,796
to do something every six month

519
00:16:41,796 --> 00:16:41,796
s

520
00:16:41,796 --> 00:16:43,230
or quarterly, if you want to.

521
00:16:43,230 --> 00:16:45,664
but I certainly would like to

522
00:16:45,664 --> 00:16:45,664


523
00:16:45,664 --> 00:16:49,797
touch bases with gha on an

524
00:16:49,797 --> 00:16:51,303
annual basis.

525
00:16:51,303 --> 00:16:53,062
>> beginning as soon as

526
00:16:53,062 --> 00:16:53,062
possible?

527
00:16:53,062 --> 00:16:53,812
>> absolutely.

528
00:16:53,812 --> 00:16:55,442
and that will be a motion.

529
00:16:55,442 --> 00:16:56,866
>> mayor: would you like to

530
00:16:56,866 --> 00:16:58,208
include that with a motion for

531
00:16:58,208 --> 00:16:58,537


532
00:16:58,537 --> 00:16:59,904
staff recommendation or --

533
00:16:59,904 --> 00:17:02,238
>> sure, let me refresh my

534
00:17:02,238 --> 00:17:02,724
memory on that.

535
00:17:02,724 --> 00:17:05,804
and as you see I'm just sittin

536
00:17:05,804 --> 00:17:05,804
g.

537
00:17:05,804 --> 00:17:06,138
thank you.

538
00:17:06,138 --> 00:17:15,755
so I move that the city

539
00:17:15,755 --> 00:17:16,764
commission authorize the mayor

540
00:17:16,764 --> 00:17:17,057


541
00:17:17,057 --> 00:17:18,696
to send a letter supporting the

542
00:17:18,696 --> 00:17:19,126


543
00:17:19,126 --> 00:17:20,103
gainesville housing authority'

544
00:17:20,103 --> 00:17:20,723
s

545
00:17:20,723 --> 00:17:21,303
application to the u.s.

546
00:17:21,303 --> 00:17:23,079
department of housing and urban

547
00:17:23,079 --> 00:17:23,460


548
00:17:23,460 --> 00:17:24,631
development for the dispositio

549
00:17:24,631 --> 00:17:25,183
n

550
00:17:25,183 --> 00:17:30,871
and rehabilitation of the oak

551
00:17:30,871 --> 00:17:30,871


552
00:17:30,871 --> 00:17:32,385
park development, and arrange

553
00:17:32,385 --> 00:17:32,385


554
00:17:32,385 --> 00:17:34,243
for a meeting to take place at

555
00:17:34,243 --> 00:17:34,441


556
00:17:34,441 --> 00:17:37,419
least annually with the gha to

557
00:17:37,419 --> 00:17:37,681


558
00:17:37,681 --> 00:17:38,042
check in.

559
00:17:38,042 --> 00:17:38,962
>> second.

560
00:17:38,962 --> 00:17:40,489
>> mayor: we have a motion and

561
00:17:40,489 --> 00:17:40,575
a

562
00:17:40,575 --> 00:17:40,575
second.

563
00:17:40,575 --> 00:17:43,845
we have one more light, then

564
00:17:43,845 --> 00:17:44,281
we'll go to public comment.

565
00:17:44,281 --> 00:17:47,193
>> I support the development.

566
00:17:47,193 --> 00:17:51,462
clearly for oak park, it's in

567
00:17:51,462 --> 00:17:51,462


568
00:17:51,462 --> 00:17:53,401
dire need as you said, mr.

569
00:17:53,401 --> 00:17:55,569
manager, I don't know who

570
00:17:55,569 --> 00:17:57,169
executes the letter, but the

571
00:17:57,169 --> 00:17:59,263
letter itself, very minor, it

572
00:17:59,263 --> 00:17:59,263


573
00:17:59,263 --> 00:18:00,695
doesn't have language, it

574
00:18:00,695 --> 00:18:02,167
doesn't bring the full city

575
00:18:02,167 --> 00:18:03,175
commission behind it, just the

576
00:18:03,175 --> 00:18:03,439


577
00:18:03,439 --> 00:18:04,677
mayor at this point.

578
00:18:04,677 --> 00:18:06,353
so whoever executes the letter

579
00:18:06,353 --> 00:18:06,609
,

580
00:18:06,609 --> 00:18:09,313
make sure that will benefit gh

581
00:18:09,313 --> 00:18:10,443
a

582
00:18:10,443 --> 00:18:12,779
for an amendment to the

583
00:18:12,779 --> 00:18:12,779
template.

584
00:18:12,779 --> 00:18:13,591
thank you, mr. Mayor.

585
00:18:13,591 --> 00:18:15,338
>> thank you, commissioner book.

586
00:18:15,338 --> 00:18:15,338


587
00:18:15,338 --> 00:18:18,654
>> I did too want to be specific

588
00:18:18,654 --> 00:18:18,654


589
00:18:18,654 --> 00:18:20,581
in my comments about this

590
00:18:20,581 --> 00:18:21,551
particular development, thank

591
00:18:21,551 --> 00:18:21,551


592
00:18:21,551 --> 00:18:22,328
you for your attention to it.

593
00:18:22,328 --> 00:18:27,055
I believe, and I said this

594
00:18:27,055 --> 00:18:28,476
before from the dais, that it

595
00:18:28,476 --> 00:18:28,476
is

596
00:18:28,476 --> 00:18:28,802
a beautiful facility.

597
00:18:28,802 --> 00:18:34,000
that needs some shining up, the

598
00:18:34,000 --> 00:18:34,713


599
00:18:34,713 --> 00:18:36,173
atrium at the bottom is such a

600
00:18:36,173 --> 00:18:36,803
n

601
00:18:36,803 --> 00:18:36,803
asset.

602
00:18:36,803 --> 00:18:38,800
I can't wait to see what you a

603
00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:38,800
ll

604
00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,509
do with the greenery down ther

605
00:18:40,509 --> 00:18:40,509
e.

606
00:18:40,509 --> 00:18:43,980
I have obviously been through,

607
00:18:43,980 --> 00:18:44,327


608
00:18:44,327 --> 00:18:46,079
and I've seen the severe need

609
00:18:46,079 --> 00:18:46,079


610
00:18:46,079 --> 00:18:48,078
for the renovation, so I'm

611
00:18:48,078 --> 00:18:49,095
looking forward to that.

612
00:18:49,095 --> 00:18:52,581
mr. Kiner, can you speak to wha

613
00:18:52,581 --> 00:18:52,581
t

614
00:18:52,581 --> 00:18:53,987
we should expect.

615
00:18:53,987 --> 00:18:56,131
can you speak to what we should

616
00:18:56,131 --> 00:18:56,271


617
00:18:56,271 --> 00:18:57,628
expect in terms of the overall

618
00:18:57,628 --> 00:18:58,269


619
00:18:58,269 --> 00:18:58,269
renovation?

620
00:18:58,269 --> 00:18:59,905
>> we're taking down to the

621
00:18:59,905 --> 00:18:59,905
studs.

622
00:18:59,905 --> 00:19:00,567
>> okay, thank you.

623
00:19:00,567 --> 00:19:08,335
>> oak park needs love, it needs  a lot

624
00:19:08,335 --> 00:19:08,373
a lot of love.

625
00:19:08,373 --> 00:19:09,968
we've dealt with a lot of

626
00:19:09,968 --> 00:19:10,875
systems issues.

627
00:19:10,875 --> 00:19:14,137
and it's hoard to keep up on

628
00:19:14,137 --> 00:19:15,273
sustaining maintenance on a

629
00:19:15,273 --> 00:19:15,901
property like that.

630
00:19:15,901 --> 00:19:18,379
we redid the parking lot, we p

631
00:19:18,379 --> 00:19:18,379
ut

632
00:19:18,379 --> 00:19:20,786
a new roof on it about 10 years

633
00:19:20,786 --> 00:19:21,180


634
00:19:21,180 --> 00:19:23,618
ago, some exterior coating, but

635
00:19:23,618 --> 00:19:23,781


636
00:19:23,781 --> 00:19:26,151
down to the studs, new elevator,

637
00:19:26,151 --> 00:19:26,151


638
00:19:26,151 --> 00:19:28,223
every apartment, every community

639
00:19:28,223 --> 00:19:28,223


640
00:19:28,223 --> 00:19:30,123
amenity will be redone.

641
00:19:30,123 --> 00:19:32,857
somewhere in the area of --

642
00:19:32,857 --> 00:19:35,459
between 39 and $40 so million o

643
00:19:35,459 --> 00:19:35,459
f

644
00:19:35,459 --> 00:19:37,429
redevelopment on oak park.

645
00:19:37,429 --> 00:19:39,433
new building, but good bones.

646
00:19:39,433 --> 00:19:41,395
just like you love the building,

647
00:19:41,395 --> 00:19:41,395


648
00:19:41,395 --> 00:19:45,914
lovitz design, it just needs

649
00:19:45,914 --> 00:19:46,167
some love.

650
00:19:46,167 --> 00:19:47,171
>> every unit?

651
00:19:47,171 --> 00:19:48,142
>> every unit.

652
00:19:48,142 --> 00:19:51,044
>> I will say that you probabl

653
00:19:51,044 --> 00:19:51,447
y

654
00:19:51,447 --> 00:19:53,182
faced an issue with some water

655
00:19:53,182 --> 00:19:54,277


656
00:19:54,277 --> 00:19:55,660
intrusion in there.

657
00:19:55,660 --> 00:19:56,008
>> we face many issues.

658
00:19:56,008 --> 00:20:01,988
>> I'm glad to hear we're going

659
00:20:01,988 --> 00:20:02,155


660
00:20:02,155 --> 00:20:02,685
down to the studs.

661
00:20:02,685 --> 00:20:03,082
>> total redevelopment.

662
00:20:03,082 --> 00:20:05,359
>> thank you.

663
00:20:05,359 --> 00:20:08,032
>> mayor: commissioner eastman

664
00:20:08,032 --> 00:20:08,032
.

665
00:20:08,032 --> 00:20:12,961
>> it's in district 4, it's a

666
00:20:12,961 --> 00:20:12,961


667
00:20:12,961 --> 00:20:17,600
great society era, '50s, '60s

668
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:17,600


669
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:17,600
era.

670
00:20:17,600 --> 00:20:20,150
>> whatever, mid modern.

671
00:20:20,150 --> 00:20:22,674
>> '68 I believe it was built.

672
00:20:22,674 --> 00:20:22,674


673
00:20:22,674 --> 00:20:24,880
>> it definitely needs some

674
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:24,880
love.

675
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:28,480
I'm glad to see you guys put

676
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:29,111
some work into that.

677
00:20:29,111 --> 00:20:31,288
can we get a reread of what the

678
00:20:31,288 --> 00:20:31,521


679
00:20:31,521 --> 00:20:32,015
motion was?

680
00:20:32,015 --> 00:20:33,991
I'm always happy to have joint

681
00:20:33,991 --> 00:20:35,007


682
00:20:35,007 --> 00:20:36,385
conversations with other

683
00:20:36,385 --> 00:20:39,361
governmental bodies, I want to

684
00:20:39,361 --> 00:20:39,958


685
00:20:39,958 --> 00:20:40,546
know what we're committing to.

686
00:20:40,546 --> 00:20:40,546


687
00:20:40,546 --> 00:20:44,737
>> I can reread it, approve --

688
00:20:44,737 --> 00:20:45,139


689
00:20:45,139 --> 00:20:46,707
as recommended and set a joint

690
00:20:46,707 --> 00:20:47,834


691
00:20:47,834 --> 00:20:48,722
meeting for both boards to recu

692
00:20:48,722 --> 00:20:48,722
r

693
00:20:48,722 --> 00:20:48,722
annually.

694
00:20:48,722 --> 00:20:55,572
>> I am happy to have a joint

695
00:20:55,572 --> 00:20:55,572


696
00:20:55,572 --> 00:20:55,572
meeting.

697
00:20:55,572 --> 00:20:59,002
I am more receipt sent to set u

698
00:20:59,002 --> 00:20:59,002
s

699
00:20:59,002 --> 00:21:00,756
up for something that we're now

700
00:21:00,756 --> 00:21:01,308


701
00:21:01,308 --> 00:21:03,378
structuring for an annual

702
00:21:03,378 --> 00:21:06,138
amount, if there's something

703
00:21:06,138 --> 00:21:08,982
that's more ad-hoc if we have

704
00:21:08,982 --> 00:21:08,982


705
00:21:08,982 --> 00:21:09,451
something to discuss.

706
00:21:09,451 --> 00:21:11,759
I don't think we really --

707
00:21:11,759 --> 00:21:13,492
setting this up for an annual

708
00:21:13,492 --> 00:21:13,492


709
00:21:13,492 --> 00:21:15,752
meeting, I think might be a bit

710
00:21:15,752 --> 00:21:16,328


711
00:21:16,328 --> 00:21:17,428
much at this particular time, a

712
00:21:17,428 --> 00:21:17,428
s

713
00:21:17,428 --> 00:21:21,872
opposed to scheduling a meeting

714
00:21:21,872 --> 00:21:21,872


715
00:21:21,872 --> 00:21:24,352
in the future, is my only

716
00:21:24,352 --> 00:21:24,738
reticence about it.

717
00:21:24,738 --> 00:21:28,306
>> mayor: thank you.

718
00:21:28,306 --> 00:21:31,340
>> the gainesville housing

719
00:21:31,340 --> 00:21:34,946
authority has a number of

720
00:21:34,946 --> 00:21:36,042
facilities within its portfolio,

721
00:21:36,042 --> 00:21:36,042


722
00:21:36,042 --> 00:21:38,358
and I think we would have a lot

723
00:21:38,358 --> 00:21:38,398


724
00:21:38,398 --> 00:21:38,948
to talk about.

725
00:21:38,948 --> 00:21:40,893
they have a lot of new projects

726
00:21:40,893 --> 00:21:41,148


727
00:21:41,148 --> 00:21:42,752
they're bringing online, I thi

728
00:21:42,752 --> 00:21:42,752
nk

729
00:21:42,752 --> 00:21:44,114
there's always one meeting per

730
00:21:44,114 --> 00:21:44,662


731
00:21:44,662 --> 00:21:44,662
year.

732
00:21:44,662 --> 00:21:48,044
I don't think we'll struggle

733
00:21:48,044 --> 00:21:48,300
with an agenda.

734
00:21:48,300 --> 00:21:48,610
thank you.

735
00:21:48,610 --> 00:21:51,458
>> mayor: thank you.

736
00:21:51,458 --> 00:21:53,131
mr. Duncan walker?

737
00:21:53,131 --> 00:21:56,504
are there any public comment?

738
00:21:56,504 --> 00:21:56,994
>> no public comment.

739
00:21:56,994 --> 00:21:59,434
>> mayor: all in favor?

740
00:21:59,434 --> 00:22:02,286
>> aye.

741
00:22:02,286 --> 00:22:02,286
ma

742
00:22:02,286 --> 00:22:04,238
>> mayor: that passed

743
00:22:04,238 --> 00:22:04,238
unanimously.

744
00:22:04,238 --> 00:22:05,976
we will get that letter

745
00:22:05,976 --> 00:22:06,574
procsed as quily as

746
00:22:06,574 --> 00:22:06,574
possible.

747
00:22:06,574 --> 00:22:15,206
>> mr. Mayor, I did neglect to

748
00:22:15,206 --> 00:22:15,988


749
00:22:15,988 --> 00:22:17,120
call for early public comment,

750
00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:18,392


751
00:22:18,392 --> 00:22:21,362
but there is none, so we're mov

752
00:22:21,362 --> 00:22:21,362
e

753
00:22:21,362 --> 00:22:24,867
on to f1, 2026-164 discuss cit

754
00:22:24,867 --> 00:22:26,231
y

755
00:22:26,231 --> 00:22:28,162
manager recruitment time line.

756
00:22:28,162 --> 00:22:28,162


757
00:22:28,162 --> 00:22:30,268
>> mayor: let me preface real

758
00:22:30,268 --> 00:22:30,268


759
00:22:30,268 --> 00:22:30,268
quick.

760
00:22:30,268 --> 00:22:31,572
I appreciate you bringing this

761
00:22:31,572 --> 00:22:31,968


762
00:22:31,968 --> 00:22:33,674
forward and look forward to my

763
00:22:33,674 --> 00:22:34,106


764
00:22:34,106 --> 00:22:34,956
colleagues comments.

765
00:22:34,956 --> 00:22:40,544
I will say, as I have said

766
00:22:40,544 --> 00:22:43,078
before, it's going to cost us

767
00:22:43,078 --> 00:22:43,078


768
00:22:43,078 --> 00:22:45,378
between 50,000 and $100,000 to

769
00:22:45,378 --> 00:22:46,418


770
00:22:46,418 --> 00:22:49,082
do a search.

771
00:22:49,082 --> 00:22:58,999
and given the free state of

772
00:22:58,999 --> 00:23:03,106
florida, given lots and lots o

773
00:23:03,106 --> 00:23:03,498
f

774
00:23:03,498 --> 00:23:06,034
things, have a hard time

775
00:23:06,034 --> 00:23:07,090
believing we're going to spend

776
00:23:07,090 --> 00:23:07,438


777
00:23:07,438 --> 00:23:09,602
$100,000 and come out with a

778
00:23:09,602 --> 00:23:11,078
different product than what we

779
00:23:11,078 --> 00:23:11,276


780
00:23:11,276 --> 00:23:12,582
have in front of us right now.

781
00:23:12,582 --> 00:23:12,582


782
00:23:12,582 --> 00:23:16,719
I do not believe this process I

783
00:23:16,719 --> 00:23:16,719
s

784
00:23:16,719 --> 00:23:16,719
necessary.

785
00:23:16,719 --> 00:23:18,685
I think we should stick with

786
00:23:18,685 --> 00:23:19,883
what we have, frankly.

787
00:23:19,883 --> 00:23:22,288
that's my thought, I wanted to

788
00:23:22,288 --> 00:23:22,654


789
00:23:22,654 --> 00:23:22,950
preface that.

790
00:23:22,950 --> 00:23:27,494
>> good morning, laura gretz,

791
00:23:27,494 --> 00:23:27,494


792
00:23:27,494 --> 00:23:29,326
human resources director of

793
00:23:29,326 --> 00:23:29,326
gainesville.

794
00:23:29,326 --> 00:23:33,536
happy to be before you today, a

795
00:23:33,536 --> 00:23:33,536
s

796
00:23:33,536 --> 00:23:34,035
you'll recall.

797
00:23:34,035 --> 00:23:36,407
sorry, let me grab this real

798
00:23:36,407 --> 00:23:36,407
quick.

799
00:23:36,407 --> 00:23:38,954
just a bit of background on

800
00:23:38,954 --> 00:23:42,125
october 20, 2025, mr. Andrew

801
00:23:42,125 --> 00:23:43,818
persons was named as the interim

802
00:23:43,818 --> 00:23:43,818


803
00:23:43,818 --> 00:23:45,411
city manager by the commission

804
00:23:45,411 --> 00:23:45,411
.

805
00:23:45,411 --> 00:23:50,658
we met on october 23 of 2025 t

806
00:23:50,658 --> 00:23:50,951
o

807
00:23:50,951 --> 00:23:53,246
discuss what a recruitment

808
00:23:53,246 --> 00:23:54,854
search would like like if the

809
00:23:54,854 --> 00:23:54,854


810
00:23:54,854 --> 00:23:56,456
commission opted to go in that

811
00:23:56,456 --> 00:23:57,002


812
00:23:57,002 --> 00:23:57,002
direction.

813
00:23:57,002 --> 00:23:59,053
and during that meeting, we

814
00:23:59,053 --> 00:23:59,652
agreed to come back.

815
00:23:59,652 --> 00:24:03,142
it was in march, but we shifted

816
00:24:03,142 --> 00:24:03,276


817
00:24:03,276 --> 00:24:06,009
it to this meeting, here we ar

818
00:24:06,009 --> 00:24:06,138
e

819
00:24:06,138 --> 00:24:07,196
april 2nd to discuss it.

820
00:24:07,196 --> 00:24:09,734
just a brief refresher on how w

821
00:24:09,734 --> 00:24:09,734
e

822
00:24:09,734 --> 00:24:10,142
got here.

823
00:24:10,142 --> 00:24:12,280
this is a reiteration of some o

824
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:12,280
f

825
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,537
the talking points that we

826
00:24:14,537 --> 00:24:15,167
discussed back in october.

827
00:24:15,167 --> 00:24:20,164
some of which -- some of the

828
00:24:20,164 --> 00:24:22,413
uncertainties may be a bit

829
00:24:22,413 --> 00:24:23,452
clearer is my best way to say

830
00:24:23,452 --> 00:24:28,524
that, but at the time, we had

831
00:24:28,524 --> 00:24:28,524


832
00:24:28,524 --> 00:24:31,836
not received from the state of

833
00:24:31,836 --> 00:24:31,836


834
00:24:31,836 --> 00:24:32,172
florida --

835
00:24:32,172 --> 00:24:32,461
[ inaudible ]

836
00:24:32,461 --> 00:24:34,127
and have some more insight fro

837
00:24:34,127 --> 00:24:34,300
m

838
00:24:34,300 --> 00:24:35,228
what their findings were.

839
00:24:35,228 --> 00:24:38,631
there was a gru referendum tha

840
00:24:38,631 --> 00:24:38,716
t

841
00:24:38,716 --> 00:24:40,259
was currently in litigation, I

842
00:24:40,259 --> 00:24:40,868
t

843
00:24:40,868 --> 00:24:41,967
remains in litigation, in

844
00:24:41,967 --> 00:24:43,089
addition to what we discussed I

845
00:24:43,089 --> 00:24:43,089
n

846
00:24:43,089 --> 00:24:44,899
october, as we're all well

847
00:24:44,899 --> 00:24:49,059
aware, there was some actual

848
00:24:49,059 --> 00:24:49,877
state legislation that has bee

849
00:24:49,877 --> 00:24:50,304
n

850
00:24:50,304 --> 00:24:51,552
passed by house and senate, but

851
00:24:51,552 --> 00:24:52,116


852
00:24:52,116 --> 00:24:53,652
remains at the desk of the

853
00:24:53,652 --> 00:24:54,045
governor currently.

854
00:24:54,045 --> 00:24:57,182
we talked about the need for

855
00:24:57,182 --> 00:24:57,655
momentum and stability.

856
00:24:57,655 --> 00:25:00,456
and I think I heard a series o

857
00:25:00,456 --> 00:25:01,429
f

858
00:25:01,429 --> 00:25:02,642
meetings since mr. Persons too

859
00:25:02,642 --> 00:25:02,950
k

860
00:25:02,950 --> 00:25:04,800
on this role that that is

861
00:25:04,800 --> 00:25:05,993
something we've been able to s

862
00:25:05,993 --> 00:25:05,993
ee

863
00:25:05,993 --> 00:25:05,993
materialize.

864
00:25:05,993 --> 00:25:08,757
and as a reminder, and the may

865
00:25:08,757 --> 00:25:08,757
or

866
00:25:08,757 --> 00:25:10,331
just discussed that, there is a

867
00:25:10,331 --> 00:25:10,707


868
00:25:10,707 --> 00:25:12,670
cost associated if you chose t

869
00:25:12,670 --> 00:25:12,925
o

870
00:25:12,925 --> 00:25:14,331
move forward with the

871
00:25:14,331 --> 00:25:15,727
recruitment, and could range

872
00:25:15,727 --> 00:25:17,432
anywhere from 22 to just shy o

873
00:25:17,432 --> 00:25:17,781
f

874
00:25:17,781 --> 00:25:17,781
$100,000.

875
00:25:17,781 --> 00:25:21,839
as a reminder, the process tak

876
00:25:21,839 --> 00:25:21,839
es

877
00:25:21,839 --> 00:25:22,975
16 to 20 months.

878
00:25:22,975 --> 00:25:25,139
and when we had met back in

879
00:25:25,139 --> 00:25:29,008
october, we talked about

880
00:25:29,008 --> 00:25:29,937
consideration the budget

881
00:25:29,937 --> 00:25:31,514
preparation we do here at the

882
00:25:31,514 --> 00:25:31,514


883
00:25:31,514 --> 00:25:33,157
city as well as upcoming

884
00:25:33,157 --> 00:25:34,216
commission elections in august

885
00:25:34,216 --> 00:25:34,216
.

886
00:25:34,216 --> 00:25:37,484
so I did not share this

887
00:25:37,484 --> 00:25:38,699
information at the last meetin

888
00:25:38,699 --> 00:25:38,699
g.

889
00:25:38,699 --> 00:25:40,829
and it's just a reminder to kin

890
00:25:40,829 --> 00:25:40,829
d

891
00:25:40,829 --> 00:25:43,192
of walk you through the

892
00:25:43,192 --> 00:25:44,416
different steps in the process,

893
00:25:44,416 --> 00:25:44,416


894
00:25:44,416 --> 00:25:46,761
I think it will help in our nex

895
00:25:46,761 --> 00:25:46,761
t

896
00:25:46,761 --> 00:25:47,502
slide of discussion.

897
00:25:47,502 --> 00:25:52,602
the key point to remember is,

898
00:25:52,602 --> 00:25:52,602


899
00:25:52,602 --> 00:25:56,047
it's about in the 3rd or 4th

900
00:25:56,047 --> 00:25:57,447
month when the commission would

901
00:25:57,447 --> 00:25:57,709


902
00:25:57,709 --> 00:25:59,278
select candidates to bring

903
00:25:59,278 --> 00:26:01,369
forward and interview those

904
00:26:01,369 --> 00:26:01,369
candidates.

905
00:26:01,369 --> 00:26:05,046
I think that's relevant as we

906
00:26:05,046 --> 00:26:05,046


907
00:26:05,046 --> 00:26:06,161
talk about the options.

908
00:26:06,161 --> 00:26:07,217
so in october.

909
00:26:07,217 --> 00:26:10,493
I just brought one visual for

910
00:26:10,493 --> 00:26:10,493


911
00:26:10,493 --> 00:26:11,157
you all to consider.

912
00:26:11,157 --> 00:26:13,758
based on the discussions and

913
00:26:13,758 --> 00:26:14,639
comments from the commission

914
00:26:14,639 --> 00:26:17,239
october, I brought forth

915
00:26:17,239 --> 00:26:19,763
two options based on the

916
00:26:19,763 --> 00:26:21,397
feedback we were hearing when w

917
00:26:21,397 --> 00:26:21,397
e

918
00:26:21,397 --> 00:26:22,131
last met.

919
00:26:22,131 --> 00:26:25,475
option one looks at starting t

920
00:26:25,475 --> 00:26:25,475
he

921
00:26:25,475 --> 00:26:26,171
search in august.

922
00:26:26,171 --> 00:26:28,540
you can see our fiscal year for

923
00:26:28,540 --> 00:26:28,874


924
00:26:28,874 --> 00:26:31,949
october, for fiscal year 27

925
00:26:31,949 --> 00:26:32,441
begins in october.

926
00:26:32,441 --> 00:26:35,154
and if there were runoff

927
00:26:35,154 --> 00:26:36,409
elections that would be needed

928
00:26:36,409 --> 00:26:36,610


929
00:26:36,610 --> 00:26:40,420
that occur in november, it giv

930
00:26:40,420 --> 00:26:40,420
es

931
00:26:40,420 --> 00:26:45,085
a smidge of time for any

932
00:26:45,085 --> 00:26:46,621
commissioners to be part of th

933
00:26:46,621 --> 00:26:46,621
at

934
00:26:46,621 --> 00:26:47,425
final selection process.

935
00:26:47,425 --> 00:26:50,532
the second option is below,

936
00:26:50,532 --> 00:26:54,465
where commission elections occ

937
00:26:54,465 --> 00:26:54,465
ur

938
00:26:54,465 --> 00:26:54,934
in august.

939
00:26:54,934 --> 00:26:57,641
at that point if the comment

940
00:26:57,641 --> 00:26:59,510
commissioners are re-elected a

941
00:26:59,510 --> 00:26:59,510
nd

942
00:26:59,510 --> 00:27:02,303
there's no runoff needed we kno

943
00:27:02,303 --> 00:27:02,303
w

944
00:27:02,303 --> 00:27:04,079
who they are, and they can be

945
00:27:04,079 --> 00:27:04,079


946
00:27:04,079 --> 00:27:06,077
part of the process from the

947
00:27:06,077 --> 00:27:07,073
beginning, if there are runoff

948
00:27:07,073 --> 00:27:07,073
s,

949
00:27:07,073 --> 00:27:11,816
they're able to be candidates a

950
00:27:11,816 --> 00:27:11,816
s

951
00:27:11,816 --> 00:27:12,749
part of the selection.

952
00:27:12,749 --> 00:27:14,863
so I will leave it to you all

953
00:27:14,863 --> 00:27:14,863
to

954
00:27:14,863 --> 00:27:15,293
discuss at this time.

955
00:27:15,293 --> 00:27:17,191
>> mayor: very good.

956
00:27:17,191 --> 00:27:17,443
thank you.

957
00:27:17,443 --> 00:27:19,673
commission eastman?

958
00:27:19,673 --> 00:27:20,066
>> thank you.

959
00:27:20,066 --> 00:27:22,185
mr. Mayor.

960
00:27:22,185 --> 00:27:31,473
so the -- so it -- the last cit

961
00:27:31,473 --> 00:27:31,473
y

962
00:27:31,473 --> 00:27:34,683
manager, we did a public search

963
00:27:34,683 --> 00:27:34,683


964
00:27:34,683 --> 00:27:36,069
around 2020 --

965
00:27:36,069 --> 00:27:37,602
>> I believe it was for the

966
00:27:37,602 --> 00:27:38,409
acting city manager.

967
00:27:38,409 --> 00:27:41,183
>> yes, I'm just a little bit -

968
00:27:41,183 --> 00:27:41,183
-

969
00:27:41,183 --> 00:27:46,615
>> for the -- so cynthia curry

970
00:27:46,615 --> 00:27:46,798


971
00:27:46,798 --> 00:27:48,521
came in, she had come in, I

972
00:27:48,521 --> 00:27:49,943
think we selected her, there w

973
00:27:49,943 --> 00:27:49,943
as

974
00:27:49,943 --> 00:27:51,591
not an active search for that,

975
00:27:51,591 --> 00:27:51,953


976
00:27:51,953 --> 00:27:51,953
correct?

977
00:27:51,953 --> 00:27:54,825
>> yes, mayor and commissioner,

978
00:27:54,825 --> 00:27:56,689
I wasn't in this role at the

979
00:27:56,689 --> 00:27:58,123
time, I recall there was a

980
00:27:58,123 --> 00:27:59,769
search, I believe it was for t

981
00:27:59,769 --> 00:27:59,769
he

982
00:27:59,769 --> 00:28:02,598
acting position, and then miss

983
00:28:02,598 --> 00:28:02,995


984
00:28:02,995 --> 00:28:04,777
curry was selected as the actin

985
00:28:04,777 --> 00:28:04,777
g

986
00:28:04,777 --> 00:28:06,901
city manager and was

987
00:28:06,901 --> 00:28:07,547
subsequently appointed after a

988
00:28:07,547 --> 00:28:07,661


989
00:28:07,661 --> 00:28:07,833
period of time.

990
00:28:07,833 --> 00:28:10,873
>> okay, and then prior to that

991
00:28:10,873 --> 00:28:10,873
,

992
00:28:10,873 --> 00:28:14,639
we did, we had an acting, but

993
00:28:14,639 --> 00:28:14,639


994
00:28:14,639 --> 00:28:22,105
then we had a public search, I

995
00:28:22,105 --> 00:28:22,151
s

996
00:28:22,151 --> 00:28:22,412
that correct?

997
00:28:22,412 --> 00:28:23,291
>> I believe that's correct,

998
00:28:23,291 --> 00:28:23,291
yes.

999
00:28:23,291 --> 00:28:26,187
>> we ask all of our employees,

1000
00:28:26,187 --> 00:28:26,551


1001
00:28:26,551 --> 00:28:28,197
I guess we have hr here.

1002
00:28:28,197 --> 00:28:30,065
generally speaking for our

1003
00:28:30,065 --> 00:28:31,717
employees, we do panels, public

1004
00:28:31,717 --> 00:28:32,126


1005
00:28:32,126 --> 00:28:33,637
services, I'm sure there are

1006
00:28:33,637 --> 00:28:34,729
instances where you may select

1007
00:28:34,729 --> 00:28:34,909


1008
00:28:34,909 --> 00:28:36,263
someone to come into the city

1009
00:28:36,263 --> 00:28:36,263


1010
00:28:36,263 --> 00:28:37,941
that is not through that

1011
00:28:37,941 --> 00:28:40,469
process, that's generally the

1012
00:28:40,469 --> 00:28:40,469


1013
00:28:40,469 --> 00:28:40,740
process, correct?

1014
00:28:40,740 --> 00:28:41,137
>> correct.

1015
00:28:41,137 --> 00:28:43,135
our employee process says

1016
00:28:43,135 --> 00:28:45,141
generally, we will conduct a

1017
00:28:45,141 --> 00:28:46,571
search for our positions.

1018
00:28:46,571 --> 00:28:50,977
there are circ umstances in whi

1019
00:28:50,977 --> 00:28:50,977
ch

1020
00:28:50,977 --> 00:28:54,279
we elect direct hires, it's

1021
00:28:54,279 --> 00:28:56,250
usually based on the can dwi

1022
00:28:56,250 --> 00:28:56,985
date's specific experiences.

1023
00:28:56,985 --> 00:28:58,489
what the needs are of the

1024
00:28:58,489 --> 00:28:59,561
organization at the time, if I

1025
00:28:59,561 --> 00:28:59,925
t

1026
00:28:59,925 --> 00:29:01,347
seems to be a good match,

1027
00:29:01,347 --> 00:29:02,443
sometimes a decision is made t

1028
00:29:02,443 --> 00:29:03,129
o

1029
00:29:03,129 --> 00:29:03,533
conduct a direct hire.

1030
00:29:03,533 --> 00:29:07,287
>> I think our system of

1031
00:29:07,287 --> 00:29:09,865
government is a funny one, the

1032
00:29:09,865 --> 00:29:09,865
re

1033
00:29:09,865 --> 00:29:12,671
are seven of us here, we're the

1034
00:29:12,671 --> 00:29:13,107


1035
00:29:13,107 --> 00:29:15,569
legislative branch, we don't

1036
00:29:15,569 --> 00:29:16,303
communicate with one another.

1037
00:29:16,303 --> 00:29:19,237
so the city manager ends up

1038
00:29:19,237 --> 00:29:20,907
being a strong mayor type role

1039
00:29:20,907 --> 00:29:21,077
,

1040
00:29:21,077 --> 00:29:23,821
but working for the seven of u

1041
00:29:23,821 --> 00:29:24,077
s

1042
00:29:24,077 --> 00:29:24,711
as it goes forward.

1043
00:29:24,711 --> 00:29:27,949
it is far and away the most

1044
00:29:27,949 --> 00:29:28,581
important decision we make as a

1045
00:29:28,581 --> 00:29:28,625


1046
00:29:28,625 --> 00:29:28,625
city.

1047
00:29:28,625 --> 00:29:32,085
it -- I would say our city is

1048
00:29:32,085 --> 00:29:32,085


1049
00:29:32,085 --> 00:29:33,993
more defined even by which cit

1050
00:29:33,993 --> 00:29:34,591
y

1051
00:29:34,591 --> 00:29:36,389
managers we had at various tim

1052
00:29:36,389 --> 00:29:36,389
es

1053
00:29:36,389 --> 00:29:38,225
and who we have sitting in the

1054
00:29:38,225 --> 00:29:38,225
se

1055
00:29:38,225 --> 00:29:38,225
seats.

1056
00:29:38,225 --> 00:29:41,967
I think having a public search

1057
00:29:41,967 --> 00:29:42,251


1058
00:29:42,251 --> 00:29:43,989
for something as important as

1059
00:29:43,989 --> 00:29:43,989


1060
00:29:43,989 --> 00:29:45,667
this makes a lot of sense for

1061
00:29:45,667 --> 00:29:45,667


1062
00:29:45,667 --> 00:29:48,881
our employees otherwise, I lik

1063
00:29:48,881 --> 00:29:50,540
e

1064
00:29:50,540 --> 00:29:52,037
the idea of looking around

1065
00:29:52,037 --> 00:29:54,478
the -- and I think it ends up

1066
00:29:54,478 --> 00:29:54,478


1067
00:29:54,478 --> 00:29:55,353
coming into that role, whether

1068
00:29:55,353 --> 00:29:55,578


1069
00:29:55,578 --> 00:29:57,577
it be our acting or not our

1070
00:29:57,577 --> 00:29:58,477
acting, however it goes.

1071
00:29:58,477 --> 00:30:01,005
it gives legitimacy that they

1072
00:30:01,005 --> 00:30:01,005


1073
00:30:01,005 --> 00:30:03,127
went through the same process

1074
00:30:03,127 --> 00:30:03,127


1075
00:30:03,127 --> 00:30:04,709
every other city did.

1076
00:30:04,709 --> 00:30:06,519
they've been selected by the

1077
00:30:06,519 --> 00:30:08,293
city commission, and meeting t

1078
00:30:08,293 --> 00:30:08,293
he

1079
00:30:08,293 --> 00:30:09,833
community, introducing

1080
00:30:09,833 --> 00:30:11,001
themselves, I think that's a

1081
00:30:11,001 --> 00:30:14,332
good process, I don't -- I thi

1082
00:30:14,332 --> 00:30:14,332
nk

1083
00:30:14,332 --> 00:30:16,607
when cynthia curry was coming I

1084
00:30:16,607 --> 00:30:16,607
n

1085
00:30:16,607 --> 00:30:17,679
before us acting.

1086
00:30:17,679 --> 00:30:19,443
we're going through a period

1087
00:30:19,443 --> 00:30:20,765
where we needed someone to com

1088
00:30:20,765 --> 00:30:21,103
e

1089
00:30:21,103 --> 00:30:23,021
in, step into the role, we are

1090
00:30:23,021 --> 00:30:23,501


1091
00:30:23,501 --> 00:30:26,549
now in a place where -- there's

1092
00:30:26,549 --> 00:30:26,783


1093
00:30:26,783 --> 00:30:28,510
always uncertainties, this

1094
00:30:28,510 --> 00:30:29,643
question as to what the future

1095
00:30:29,643 --> 00:30:30,043


1096
00:30:30,043 --> 00:30:30,043
holds.

1097
00:30:30,043 --> 00:30:32,717
where we stand now, I don't see

1098
00:30:32,717 --> 00:30:32,843


1099
00:30:32,843 --> 00:30:33,611
this getting any better.

1100
00:30:33,611 --> 00:30:35,320
I think the process is what the

1101
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:35,587


1102
00:30:35,587 --> 00:30:37,052
process is, and we should

1103
00:30:37,052 --> 00:30:37,825
probably go forward with our

1104
00:30:37,825 --> 00:30:38,091
standard process.

1105
00:30:38,091 --> 00:30:41,085
>> thank you, commissioner

1106
00:30:41,085 --> 00:30:41,085
eastman.

1107
00:30:41,085 --> 00:30:43,595
commissioner chestnut?

1108
00:30:43,595 --> 00:30:46,838
>> and I think we owe it to the

1109
00:30:46,838 --> 00:30:46,967


1110
00:30:46,967 --> 00:30:50,902
public to do a search, a

1111
00:30:50,902 --> 00:30:51,199
thorough search.

1112
00:30:51,199 --> 00:30:55,675
so that they can see the

1113
00:30:55,675 --> 00:30:56,721
competition, whose available o

1114
00:30:56,721 --> 00:30:56,721
ut

1115
00:30:56,721 --> 00:31:00,183
there, but a public search is

1116
00:31:00,183 --> 00:31:00,183


1117
00:31:00,183 --> 00:31:01,911
something that I totally

1118
00:31:01,911 --> 00:31:01,911
support.

1119
00:31:01,911 --> 00:31:04,217
and I would look at option one

1120
00:31:04,217 --> 00:31:04,349


1121
00:31:04,349 --> 00:31:07,747
in terms of time.

1122
00:31:07,747 --> 00:31:08,416
time line.

1123
00:31:08,416 --> 00:31:10,983
I just don't see delaying the

1124
00:31:10,983 --> 00:31:10,983


1125
00:31:10,983 --> 00:31:12,273
beginning of the process to

1126
00:31:12,273 --> 00:31:12,273
october.

1127
00:31:12,273 --> 00:31:23,099
I'll be happy to place that as

1128
00:31:23,099 --> 00:31:23,214
a

1129
00:31:23,214 --> 00:31:25,865
motion later on if others wish

1130
00:31:25,865 --> 00:31:25,865


1131
00:31:25,865 --> 00:31:26,019
to comment.

1132
00:31:26,019 --> 00:31:28,147
>> mayor: thank you.

1133
00:31:28,147 --> 00:31:28,531
commissioner willits?

1134
00:31:28,531 --> 00:31:30,187
>> there's always uncertainty,

1135
00:31:30,187 --> 00:31:35,907


1136
00:31:35,907 --> 00:31:37,417
and I was looking at option 2.

1137
00:31:37,417 --> 00:31:37,417


1138
00:31:37,417 --> 00:31:43,225
if the legislature passes a

1139
00:31:43,225 --> 00:31:44,083
constitutional amendment on

1140
00:31:44,083 --> 00:31:45,453
taxes, people who have applied

1141
00:31:45,453 --> 00:31:46,355


1142
00:31:46,355 --> 00:31:48,293
may be like, no, that's not a

1143
00:31:48,293 --> 00:31:48,293


1144
00:31:48,293 --> 00:31:50,005
battle I want to fight, about

1145
00:31:50,005 --> 00:31:50,005


1146
00:31:50,005 --> 00:31:52,457
how you completely refigure

1147
00:31:52,457 --> 00:31:53,035
local government while everyon

1148
00:31:53,035 --> 00:31:53,665
e

1149
00:31:53,665 --> 00:31:58,031
in the state is also doing it.

1150
00:31:58,031 --> 00:31:58,031


1151
00:31:58,031 --> 00:32:04,225
we have a little more recent

1152
00:32:04,225 --> 00:32:07,709
knowledge of communities not

1153
00:32:07,709 --> 00:32:08,817
having to make these decisions

1154
00:32:08,817 --> 00:32:09,214


1155
00:32:09,214 --> 00:32:09,214
recently.

1156
00:32:09,214 --> 00:32:13,259
I think elections should have

1157
00:32:13,259 --> 00:32:13,259


1158
00:32:13,259 --> 00:32:13,259
consequences.

1159
00:32:13,259 --> 00:32:14,899
that like voters should be abl

1160
00:32:14,899 --> 00:32:15,181
e

1161
00:32:15,181 --> 00:32:19,122
to vote for things, and every

1162
00:32:19,122 --> 00:32:19,122


1163
00:32:19,122 --> 00:32:20,791
decision a city makes should n

1164
00:32:20,791 --> 00:32:20,791
ot

1165
00:32:20,791 --> 00:32:22,931
be shielded from democracy, in

1166
00:32:22,931 --> 00:32:23,262
a

1167
00:32:23,262 --> 00:32:25,257
way that's like, we're going t

1168
00:32:25,257 --> 00:32:25,535
o

1169
00:32:25,535 --> 00:32:26,547
make all these decisions right

1170
00:32:26,547 --> 00:32:26,730


1171
00:32:26,730 --> 00:32:28,171
before an election, as opposed

1172
00:32:28,171 --> 00:32:28,361


1173
00:32:28,361 --> 00:32:30,065
to, okay, since we're already in

1174
00:32:30,065 --> 00:32:30,065


1175
00:32:30,065 --> 00:32:31,641
this range, where it's like, o

1176
00:32:31,641 --> 00:32:31,641
h,

1177
00:32:31,641 --> 00:32:33,375
maybe it could be done after,

1178
00:32:33,375 --> 00:32:33,375


1179
00:32:33,375 --> 00:32:34,633
decisions could be made

1180
00:32:34,633 --> 00:32:36,270
afterwards, so if this is a big

1181
00:32:36,270 --> 00:32:37,269


1182
00:32:37,269 --> 00:32:39,605
issue, then elections can

1183
00:32:39,605 --> 00:32:41,353
matter -- you know, people

1184
00:32:41,353 --> 00:32:42,855
that -- our voters can talk

1185
00:32:42,855 --> 00:32:44,151
about like, this is what we wan

1186
00:32:44,151 --> 00:32:44,151
t

1187
00:32:44,151 --> 00:32:46,793
in a city manager or city staf

1188
00:32:46,793 --> 00:32:46,793
f,

1189
00:32:46,793 --> 00:32:49,449
city charters in general.

1190
00:32:49,449 --> 00:32:51,889
we ran two elections here, whe

1191
00:32:51,889 --> 00:32:51,889
re

1192
00:32:51,889 --> 00:32:53,691
we wanted the elections to

1193
00:32:53,691 --> 00:32:55,299
matter, where the voters wante

1194
00:32:55,299 --> 00:32:55,527
d

1195
00:32:55,527 --> 00:32:57,459
to bring gru back under us.

1196
00:32:57,459 --> 00:32:59,139
someone's changing the rules a

1197
00:32:59,139 --> 00:32:59,139
nd

1198
00:32:59,139 --> 00:33:02,867
making it this impenetrable,

1199
00:33:02,867 --> 00:33:03,463
nothing can happen.

1200
00:33:03,463 --> 00:33:06,165
doesn't matter how you vote, w

1201
00:33:06,165 --> 00:33:06,165
ho

1202
00:33:06,165 --> 00:33:07,599
you elect, nothing can happen.

1203
00:33:07,599 --> 00:33:07,599


1204
00:33:07,599 --> 00:33:09,499
I like option 2 just for the

1205
00:33:09,499 --> 00:33:12,079
sake of, if this is something

1206
00:33:12,079 --> 00:33:12,079


1207
00:33:12,079 --> 00:33:13,917
that is so important or off,

1208
00:33:13,917 --> 00:33:16,391
that people need an election, t

1209
00:33:16,391 --> 00:33:16,391
o

1210
00:33:16,391 --> 00:33:18,849
say, no, no, we really want mor

1211
00:33:18,849 --> 00:33:18,849
e

1212
00:33:18,849 --> 00:33:21,706
candidates, x candidate or just

1213
00:33:21,706 --> 00:33:22,051


1214
00:33:22,051 --> 00:33:24,753
generally, we want a city

1215
00:33:24,753 --> 00:33:27,161
manager, the whole process, I

1216
00:33:27,161 --> 00:33:27,161


1217
00:33:27,161 --> 00:33:27,983
lean toward option 2.

1218
00:33:27,983 --> 00:33:30,527
I like this idea of having thi

1219
00:33:30,527 --> 00:33:30,527


1220
00:33:30,527 --> 00:33:32,895
public search, I'll remind us

1221
00:33:32,895 --> 00:33:32,895


1222
00:33:32,895 --> 00:33:35,429
the budget is $466 million

1223
00:33:35,429 --> 00:33:35,429
total.

1224
00:33:35,429 --> 00:33:37,765
the idea of spending 22 or

1225
00:33:37,765 --> 00:33:40,367
99,000 on a search for -- as

1226
00:33:40,367 --> 00:33:42,845
eastman said, it's our most

1227
00:33:42,845 --> 00:33:45,047
consequential decision.

1228
00:33:45,047 --> 00:33:48,381
and sometimes we make it quick

1229
00:33:48,381 --> 00:33:48,523


1230
00:33:48,523 --> 00:33:50,859
and fill in the gap of what we

1231
00:33:50,859 --> 00:33:50,908


1232
00:33:50,908 --> 00:33:52,149
need immediately, and sometimes

1233
00:33:52,149 --> 00:33:52,345


1234
00:33:52,345 --> 00:33:53,558
we can make it looking forward

1235
00:33:53,558 --> 00:33:56,617


1236
00:33:56,617 --> 00:33:57,056
into the unknown.

1237
00:33:57,056 --> 00:34:01,666
I like option 2 particularly

1238
00:34:01,666 --> 00:34:02,791
because of the opportunity to -

1239
00:34:02,791 --> 00:34:02,791
-

1240
00:34:02,791 --> 00:34:04,401
if the voters, the legislature

1241
00:34:04,401 --> 00:34:04,619


1242
00:34:04,619 --> 00:34:08,061
and the voters pass a ballot

1243
00:34:08,061 --> 00:34:09,973
measure or to a very large

1244
00:34:09,973 --> 00:34:09,973
degree.

1245
00:34:09,973 --> 00:34:14,207
I would hate to be in option o

1246
00:34:14,207 --> 00:34:14,207
ne

1247
00:34:14,207 --> 00:34:16,378
and then all our candidates dro

1248
00:34:16,378 --> 00:34:16,378
p

1249
00:34:16,378 --> 00:34:18,146
out right at the end, as oppos

1250
00:34:18,146 --> 00:34:18,146
ed

1251
00:34:18,146 --> 00:34:20,015
to, they may drop out in

1252
00:34:20,015 --> 00:34:21,517
november, and then we know a

1253
00:34:21,517 --> 00:34:23,444
little more of where we're at.

1254
00:34:23,444 --> 00:34:23,444


1255
00:34:23,444 --> 00:34:26,927
I lean toward option 2.

1256
00:34:26,927 --> 00:34:29,357
and also to commissioner

1257
00:34:29,357 --> 00:34:31,330
chestnut's point, we owe it to

1258
00:34:31,330 --> 00:34:31,330


1259
00:34:31,330 --> 00:34:33,854
the public, it may very well be

1260
00:34:33,854 --> 00:34:33,854
,

1261
00:34:33,854 --> 00:34:36,789
I you is suspect if the

1262
00:34:36,789 --> 00:34:39,024
candidates say, their current

1263
00:34:39,024 --> 00:34:39,024


1264
00:34:39,024 --> 00:34:40,126
interim is about taking names,

1265
00:34:40,126 --> 00:34:40,435


1266
00:34:40,435 --> 00:34:41,878
they themselves probably won't

1267
00:34:41,878 --> 00:34:42,398


1268
00:34:42,398 --> 00:34:42,398
apply.

1269
00:34:42,398 --> 00:34:45,803
why am I going to apply for

1270
00:34:45,803 --> 00:34:46,997
something where it looks like

1271
00:34:46,997 --> 00:34:46,997


1272
00:34:46,997 --> 00:34:47,527
it's going well.

1273
00:34:47,527 --> 00:34:54,044
they will be able to see the

1274
00:34:54,044 --> 00:34:54,675
names we can't see.

1275
00:34:54,675 --> 00:34:56,748
other city managers mand

1276
00:34:56,748 --> 00:34:58,943
say, no, no, no this is

1277
00:34:58,943 --> 00:35:00,589
something I offer, that --

1278
00:35:00,589 --> 00:35:01,685
>> I support option 2.

1279
00:35:01,685 --> 00:35:03,764
because of both elections, and

1280
00:35:03,764 --> 00:35:03,985


1281
00:35:03,985 --> 00:35:05,191
then also the consequence of

1282
00:35:05,191 --> 00:35:08,220
knowing a little bit about

1283
00:35:08,220 --> 00:35:09,689
whether there's going to be a

1284
00:35:09,689 --> 00:35:09,689
measure.

1285
00:35:09,689 --> 00:35:12,727
I suspect there may be a ballo

1286
00:35:12,727 --> 00:35:13,329
t

1287
00:35:13,329 --> 00:35:14,663
measure of some sort, which one

1288
00:35:14,663 --> 00:35:14,863


1289
00:35:14,863 --> 00:35:15,139
it is.

1290
00:35:15,139 --> 00:35:16,395
in a month or two.

1291
00:35:16,395 --> 00:35:17,929
thank you, mr. Mayor.

1292
00:35:17,929 --> 00:35:21,507
>> thank you, commissioner

1293
00:35:21,507 --> 00:35:24,643
willits, commissioner ingle?

1294
00:35:24,643 --> 00:35:26,383
>> I would say, in general the

1295
00:35:26,383 --> 00:35:26,514


1296
00:35:26,514 --> 00:35:31,453
idea of doing a search -- I

1297
00:35:31,453 --> 00:35:34,881
think the last time we did a

1298
00:35:34,881 --> 00:35:36,958
public search for a city

1299
00:35:36,958 --> 00:35:39,259
manager, the city was in prett

1300
00:35:39,259 --> 00:35:39,388
y

1301
00:35:39,388 --> 00:35:41,564
rough shape, we've been cycling

1302
00:35:41,564 --> 00:35:41,729


1303
00:35:41,729 --> 00:35:42,869
through a lot of people, we we

1304
00:35:42,869 --> 00:35:42,869
re

1305
00:35:42,869 --> 00:35:44,759
looking for someone who could

1306
00:35:44,759 --> 00:35:44,759


1307
00:35:44,759 --> 00:35:45,628
change the direction things wer

1308
00:35:45,628 --> 00:35:45,628
e

1309
00:35:45,628 --> 00:35:45,628
going.

1310
00:35:45,628 --> 00:35:48,462
and it worked pretty well.  We

1311
00:35:48,462 --> 00:35:50,965
we found someone that did an

1312
00:35:50,965 --> 00:35:51,271
amazing job.

1313
00:35:51,271 --> 00:35:53,188
I don't think we're in that sam

1314
00:35:53,188 --> 00:35:53,188
e

1315
00:35:53,188 --> 00:35:53,188
situation.

1316
00:35:53,188 --> 00:35:55,880
right now, things have been

1317
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,276
steady, I think we kind of bui

1318
00:35:58,276 --> 00:35:58,276
lt

1319
00:35:58,276 --> 00:35:59,838
on that stability.

1320
00:35:59,838 --> 00:36:02,680
so I feel like we're in a

1321
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:03,877
different situation, and I'm n

1322
00:36:03,877 --> 00:36:03,877
ot

1323
00:36:03,877 --> 00:36:06,381
entirely sure we need to do a

1324
00:36:06,381 --> 00:36:06,381


1325
00:36:06,381 --> 00:36:08,221
search, if we have a qualified

1326
00:36:08,221 --> 00:36:08,513


1327
00:36:08,513 --> 00:36:09,621
person that's already doing tha

1328
00:36:09,621 --> 00:36:09,621
t

1329
00:36:09,621 --> 00:36:09,621
job.

1330
00:36:09,621 --> 00:36:12,224
I'm not 100% on that one way o

1331
00:36:12,224 --> 00:36:12,518
r

1332
00:36:12,518 --> 00:36:12,518
another.

1333
00:36:12,518 --> 00:36:14,727
I could see the advantage of

1334
00:36:14,727 --> 00:36:16,091
putting that out there, and

1335
00:36:16,091 --> 00:36:18,102
looking at, that's not a hill

1336
00:36:18,102 --> 00:36:19,907
I'm going to die on.

1337
00:36:19,907 --> 00:36:22,363
I can see both sides of it.

1338
00:36:22,363 --> 00:36:25,071
I would say, I am a bigger fan

1339
00:36:25,071 --> 00:36:25,770


1340
00:36:25,770 --> 00:36:27,747
of option number two.

1341
00:36:27,747 --> 00:36:30,607
mostly because as we said, thi

1342
00:36:30,607 --> 00:36:30,853
s

1343
00:36:30,853 --> 00:36:37,719
is going to be a very

1344
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:38,081
consequential decision.

1345
00:36:38,081 --> 00:36:39,651
starting the first part of

1346
00:36:39,651 --> 00:36:41,087
january, we're going to have a

1347
00:36:41,087 --> 00:36:41,791
t

1348
00:36:41,791 --> 00:36:43,055
least one new commissioner and

1349
00:36:43,055 --> 00:36:43,551


1350
00:36:43,551 --> 00:36:44,453
potentially four new

1351
00:36:44,453 --> 00:36:44,453
commissioners.

1352
00:36:44,453 --> 00:36:46,411
so I would think if we're

1353
00:36:46,411 --> 00:36:50,623
looking at a long term --

1354
00:36:50,623 --> 00:36:51,562
something that's going to have

1355
00:36:51,562 --> 00:36:51,823


1356
00:36:51,823 --> 00:36:53,327
that big of an impact, I think

1357
00:36:53,327 --> 00:36:55,778


1358
00:36:55,778 --> 00:36:58,904
it makes sense to wait until

1359
00:36:58,904 --> 00:37:00,587
we've got the new commission

1360
00:37:00,587 --> 00:37:01,801
seated and those people that are

1361
00:37:01,801 --> 00:37:01,801
goin

1362
00:37:01,801 --> 00:37:03,106
goin to be dealing with this

1363
00:37:03,106 --> 00:37:04,933
new city manager potentially n

1364
00:37:04,933 --> 00:37:04,933
ew

1365
00:37:04,933 --> 00:37:05,164
city manager.

1366
00:37:05,164 --> 00:37:13,251
have the ability to weigh-in o

1367
00:37:13,251 --> 00:37:13,476
n

1368
00:37:13,476 --> 00:37:13,476
that.

1369
00:37:13,476 --> 00:37:15,117
regardless of whether there's a

1370
00:37:15,117 --> 00:37:15,348


1371
00:37:15,348 --> 00:37:17,519
runoff or not, those new

1372
00:37:17,519 --> 00:37:19,519
commissioners will not be part

1373
00:37:19,519 --> 00:37:19,968


1374
00:37:19,968 --> 00:37:20,951
of this board until january.

1375
00:37:20,951 --> 00:37:23,565
so that option 2 makes a lot o

1376
00:37:23,565 --> 00:37:23,660
f

1377
00:37:23,660 --> 00:37:25,727
sense to me, and I think

1378
00:37:25,727 --> 00:37:27,024
commissioner willits makes a

1379
00:37:27,024 --> 00:37:28,758
good point, a whole lot of

1380
00:37:28,758 --> 00:37:30,204
things change in november,

1381
00:37:30,204 --> 00:37:32,401
depending on what goes on on t

1382
00:37:32,401 --> 00:37:32,401
he

1383
00:37:32,401 --> 00:37:33,197
state level.

1384
00:37:33,197 --> 00:37:34,877
I'm sorry, I said that option 2

1385
00:37:34,877 --> 00:37:35,232


1386
00:37:35,232 --> 00:37:39,944
makes more sense, plus, we're

1387
00:37:39,944 --> 00:37:39,944


1388
00:37:39,944 --> 00:37:41,040
pushed past budget season.

1389
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:42,276
that's where I am.

1390
00:37:42,276 --> 00:37:44,583
>> thank you, commissioner

1391
00:37:44,583 --> 00:37:44,583
ingle.

1392
00:37:44,583 --> 00:37:45,918
commissioner book?

1393
00:37:45,918 --> 00:37:46,567
>> thank you.

1394
00:37:46,567 --> 00:37:49,452
hr manager, I'm in agreement

1395
00:37:49,452 --> 00:37:50,689
with several of my colleagues,

1396
00:37:50,689 --> 00:37:51,263


1397
00:37:51,263 --> 00:37:53,088
as it relates to legitimacy and

1398
00:37:53,088 --> 00:37:53,223


1399
00:37:53,223 --> 00:37:54,822
trust, you follow process, and

1400
00:37:54,822 --> 00:37:54,922


1401
00:37:54,922 --> 00:37:56,620
you've had to do that for many

1402
00:37:56,620 --> 00:37:56,620


1403
00:37:56,620 --> 00:37:59,397
other employees across all

1404
00:37:59,397 --> 00:38:00,305
ranges in an organization,

1405
00:38:00,305 --> 00:38:01,899
that's how you instill to them

1406
00:38:01,899 --> 00:38:02,260


1407
00:38:02,260 --> 00:38:03,735
we follow the same rules at the

1408
00:38:03,735 --> 00:38:03,827


1409
00:38:03,827 --> 00:38:05,372
same time for the same group, I

1410
00:38:05,372 --> 00:38:05,630


1411
00:38:05,630 --> 00:38:06,463
think that's really important.

1412
00:38:06,463 --> 00:38:06,463


1413
00:38:06,463 --> 00:38:08,568
this is notwithstanding the fac

1414
00:38:08,568 --> 00:38:08,568
t

1415
00:38:08,568 --> 00:38:11,103
that the interim city manager I

1416
00:38:11,103 --> 00:38:11,103
s

1417
00:38:11,103 --> 00:38:12,068
doing an excellent job.

1418
00:38:12,068 --> 00:38:12,804
that's a fact.

1419
00:38:12,804 --> 00:38:15,138
I think that's not arguable

1420
00:38:15,138 --> 00:38:18,182
but that's different from when

1421
00:38:18,182 --> 00:38:18,319


1422
00:38:18,319 --> 00:38:19,611
we follow process.

1423
00:38:19,611 --> 00:38:23,226
miss manager, if you were to

1424
00:38:23,226 --> 00:38:25,072
pursue a process in hire, do yo

1425
00:38:25,072 --> 00:38:25,072
u

1426
00:38:25,072 --> 00:38:29,277
have a preference for one of

1427
00:38:29,277 --> 00:38:29,757
these options?

1428
00:38:29,757 --> 00:38:31,788
>> mayor and commissioner, we

1429
00:38:31,788 --> 00:38:31,788


1430
00:38:31,788 --> 00:38:33,170
could make either of those work

1431
00:38:33,170 --> 00:38:33,170
.

1432
00:38:33,170 --> 00:38:34,691
because we're in april right

1433
00:38:34,691 --> 00:38:37,455
now, we have ample time to

1434
00:38:37,455 --> 00:38:38,843
prepare for that, we should be

1435
00:38:38,843 --> 00:38:39,032


1436
00:38:39,032 --> 00:38:39,032
fine.

1437
00:38:39,032 --> 00:38:41,566
I appreciate the consideration.

1438
00:38:41,566 --> 00:38:41,929


1439
00:38:41,929 --> 00:38:43,641
>> well, I was thinking about

1440
00:38:43,641 --> 00:38:43,641


1441
00:38:43,641 --> 00:38:45,304
that, and also the last two

1442
00:38:45,304 --> 00:38:46,811
processes we did for charter

1443
00:38:46,811 --> 00:38:49,134
officers, our city leaders, we

1444
00:38:49,134 --> 00:38:49,134


1445
00:38:49,134 --> 00:38:49,626
did go through the process.

1446
00:38:49,626 --> 00:38:53,683
we followed process, and we had

1447
00:38:53,683 --> 00:38:54,352


1448
00:38:54,352 --> 00:38:55,389
internal candidate, and here's

1449
00:38:55,389 --> 00:38:55,862


1450
00:38:55,862 --> 00:38:57,153
the internal candidate.

1451
00:38:57,153 --> 00:38:59,482
and we had an external

1452
00:38:59,482 --> 00:39:01,786
candidate, and there he is

1453
00:39:01,786 --> 00:39:02,989
sitting at the back.

1454
00:39:02,989 --> 00:39:05,955
we had tremendous skill and

1455
00:39:05,955 --> 00:39:07,127
continuity, as commissioner

1456
00:39:07,127 --> 00:39:09,326
engle was talking about very

1457
00:39:09,326 --> 00:39:10,426
different than we were in 2022

1458
00:39:10,426 --> 00:39:11,031
,

1459
00:39:11,031 --> 00:39:13,297
and I like what you said,

1460
00:39:13,297 --> 00:39:14,168
commissioner eastman.

1461
00:39:14,168 --> 00:39:15,768
you want to make sure that

1462
00:39:15,768 --> 00:39:16,739
employees feel that we're doing

1463
00:39:16,739 --> 00:39:18,449


1464
00:39:18,449 --> 00:39:20,083
the same thing.

1465
00:39:20,083 --> 00:39:22,582
so I do favor a process, I thi

1466
00:39:22,582 --> 00:39:22,582
nk

1467
00:39:22,582 --> 00:39:26,243
it's probably the best way to

1468
00:39:26,243 --> 00:39:26,243


1469
00:39:26,243 --> 00:39:27,757
instill the legitimacy and

1470
00:39:27,757 --> 00:39:29,919
trust, and I hope the candidates

1471
00:39:29,919 --> 00:39:29,919


1472
00:39:29,919 --> 00:39:31,783
rise to the top, that's what you

1473
00:39:31,783 --> 00:39:31,783


1474
00:39:31,783 --> 00:39:31,783
want.

1475
00:39:31,783 --> 00:39:34,290
internal or external.

1476
00:39:34,290 --> 00:39:37,758
I don't have a preference for

1477
00:39:37,758 --> 00:39:37,758


1478
00:39:37,758 --> 00:39:39,360
option, but doi o support the

1479
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:39,360


1480
00:39:39,360 --> 00:39:40,231
external process.

1481
00:39:40,231 --> 00:39:42,020
>> mayor: thank you,

1482
00:39:42,020 --> 00:39:42,345
commissioner book.

1483
00:39:42,345 --> 00:39:45,631
is there any public comment?

1484
00:39:45,631 --> 00:39:48,406
>> yes, ron rawles.

1485
00:39:48,406 --> 00:39:51,857
>> mayor: welcome, pastor

1486
00:39:51,857 --> 00:39:51,857
rawles.

1487
00:39:51,857 --> 00:39:55,413
>> I think we should definitel

1488
00:39:55,413 --> 00:39:56,543
y

1489
00:39:56,543 --> 00:39:57,445
have a search.

1490
00:39:57,445 --> 00:40:00,330
I think communication is

1491
00:40:00,330 --> 00:40:01,998
extremely important from our

1492
00:40:01,998 --> 00:40:02,861
side when we're dealing with th

1493
00:40:02,861 --> 00:40:02,861
e

1494
00:40:02,861 --> 00:40:06,421
city, and so sometimes what you

1495
00:40:06,421 --> 00:40:06,670


1496
00:40:06,670 --> 00:40:08,119
feel you have, the relationshi

1497
00:40:08,119 --> 00:40:08,119
ps

1498
00:40:08,119 --> 00:40:10,728
you feel you have, you may not

1499
00:40:10,728 --> 00:40:11,023


1500
00:40:11,023 --> 00:40:12,495
find you have those

1501
00:40:12,495 --> 00:40:13,992
relationships until you need

1502
00:40:13,992 --> 00:40:13,992
something.

1503
00:40:13,992 --> 00:40:16,992
and so recently, we tried to

1504
00:40:16,992 --> 00:40:19,871
assist one of our senior

1505
00:40:19,871 --> 00:40:19,871
citizens.

1506
00:40:19,871 --> 00:40:23,468
I had a horrible experience

1507
00:40:23,468 --> 00:40:25,553
trying to deal with a person I

1508
00:40:25,553 --> 00:40:26,874
n

1509
00:40:26,874 --> 00:40:28,919
permitting, and so I walked it

1510
00:40:28,919 --> 00:40:28,959


1511
00:40:28,959 --> 00:40:32,322
up the ladder, didn't get

1512
00:40:32,322 --> 00:40:33,734
response from the director ove

1513
00:40:33,734 --> 00:40:33,862
r

1514
00:40:33,862 --> 00:40:36,633
in permitting, tried to walk it

1515
00:40:36,633 --> 00:40:36,722


1516
00:40:36,722 --> 00:40:38,427
up the ladder, couldn't get a

1517
00:40:38,427 --> 00:40:38,427


1518
00:40:38,427 --> 00:40:40,557
response from the city manager'

1519
00:40:40,557 --> 00:40:40,557
s

1520
00:40:40,557 --> 00:40:40,557
office.

1521
00:40:40,557 --> 00:40:45,856
and so we need more than a

1522
00:40:45,856 --> 00:40:45,856
smile.

1523
00:40:45,856 --> 00:40:49,003
I need to know if we need to   communic

1524
00:40:49,003 --> 00:40:50,273
communicate with you to get som

1525
00:40:50,273 --> 00:40:50,273
e

1526
00:40:50,273 --> 00:40:53,936
clarification that we have tha

1527
00:40:53,936 --> 00:40:54,264
t

1528
00:40:54,264 --> 00:40:54,264
ability.

1529
00:40:54,264 --> 00:40:56,098
not your previous city manager,

1530
00:40:56,098 --> 00:40:56,775


1531
00:40:56,775 --> 00:40:58,273
but the one before that that w

1532
00:40:58,273 --> 00:40:58,273
as

1533
00:40:58,273 --> 00:41:00,046
a horrible experience.  Th

1534
00:41:00,046 --> 00:41:07,043
the previous manager was a goo

1535
00:41:07,043 --> 00:41:07,447
d

1536
00:41:07,447 --> 00:41:07,447
experience.

1537
00:41:07,447 --> 00:41:09,160
you could communicate, walk it

1538
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:09,345


1539
00:41:09,345 --> 00:41:10,817
up the ladder and follow the

1540
00:41:10,817 --> 00:41:10,817
process.

1541
00:41:10,817 --> 00:41:15,387
as citizens, we need to have a

1542
00:41:15,387 --> 00:41:16,756
n

1543
00:41:16,756 --> 00:41:22,764
input to see who it is that

1544
00:41:22,764 --> 00:41:25,278
applies, the credentials and

1545
00:41:25,278 --> 00:41:27,798
have a feel that we're heard

1546
00:41:27,798 --> 00:41:28,136
from our side.

1547
00:41:28,136 --> 00:41:30,153
this is no complaint against mr.

1548
00:41:30,153 --> 00:41:30,153


1549
00:41:30,153 --> 00:41:31,808
persons, but I do feel that we

1550
00:41:31,808 --> 00:41:33,143


1551
00:41:33,143 --> 00:41:35,542
need to have a -- for our

1552
00:41:35,542 --> 00:41:40,776
comfort and our ease, to make

1553
00:41:40,776 --> 00:41:40,776


1554
00:41:40,776 --> 00:41:41,952
sure that it's nothing you get

1555
00:41:41,952 --> 00:41:42,091


1556
00:41:42,091 --> 00:41:44,055
from entitlement or a few peopl

1557
00:41:44,055 --> 00:41:44,055
e

1558
00:41:44,055 --> 00:41:44,685
like you.

1559
00:41:44,685 --> 00:41:46,224
it's because the community

1560
00:41:46,224 --> 00:41:47,588
trusts the leadership that we'

1561
00:41:47,588 --> 00:41:47,588
re

1562
00:41:47,588 --> 00:41:53,864
about to spend $55,000 on a

1563
00:41:53,864 --> 00:41:55,259
private company to make sure

1564
00:41:55,259 --> 00:42:02,568
that they can be sustained.

1565
00:42:02,568 --> 00:42:04,942
we're about to give away $55,000

1566
00:42:04,942 --> 00:42:04,942


1567
00:42:04,942 --> 00:42:07,931
to a private entity that's for

1568
00:42:07,931 --> 00:42:08,405


1569
00:42:08,405 --> 00:42:10,382
profit, definitely we could

1570
00:42:10,382 --> 00:42:12,516
spend $100,000 to make sure we

1571
00:42:12,516 --> 00:42:13,046


1572
00:42:13,046 --> 00:42:13,406
have a great leader.

1573
00:42:13,406 --> 00:42:18,797
>> mayor: thank you, pastor

1574
00:42:18,797 --> 00:42:18,797
rawles.

1575
00:42:18,797 --> 00:42:22,395
>> that was our last speaker.

1576
00:42:22,395 --> 00:42:26,722
>> mayor: commissioner duncan

1577
00:42:26,722 --> 00:42:26,722


1578
00:42:26,722 --> 00:42:26,722
walker?

1579
00:42:26,722 --> 00:42:28,294
>> my comments are brief.

1580
00:42:28,294 --> 00:42:30,601
I support the public process fo

1581
00:42:30,601 --> 00:42:30,601
r

1582
00:42:30,601 --> 00:42:31,839
most of the reasons most of us

1583
00:42:31,839 --> 00:42:31,964


1584
00:42:31,964 --> 00:42:32,909
have stated up here today.

1585
00:42:32,909 --> 00:42:35,301
I have had the opportunity to

1586
00:42:35,301 --> 00:42:35,301


1587
00:42:35,301 --> 00:42:36,838
watch the community really

1588
00:42:36,838 --> 00:42:38,104
enjoy, and not just get

1589
00:42:38,104 --> 00:42:40,068
something out of, but be able t

1590
00:42:40,068 --> 00:42:40,068
o

1591
00:42:40,068 --> 00:42:41,979
provide what I consider valuable

1592
00:42:41,979 --> 00:42:41,979


1593
00:42:41,979 --> 00:42:43,946
input to us, when they've had

1594
00:42:43,946 --> 00:42:43,946


1595
00:42:43,946 --> 00:42:45,590
the opportunity to interact wit

1596
00:42:45,590 --> 00:42:45,590
h

1597
00:42:45,590 --> 00:42:47,044
those individuals who were

1598
00:42:47,044 --> 00:42:48,260
applying for this position in

1599
00:42:48,260 --> 00:42:48,260


1600
00:42:48,260 --> 00:42:55,260
the meet and greets and in the

1601
00:42:55,260 --> 00:42:56,842


1602
00:42:56,842 --> 00:42:58,528
varying ways they can when the

1603
00:42:58,528 --> 00:42:58,528


1604
00:42:58,528 --> 00:42:58,815
process is public.

1605
00:42:58,815 --> 00:43:04,668
it's accessibility, it's

1606
00:43:04,668 --> 00:43:05,905
transparency, and it's the kin

1607
00:43:05,905 --> 00:43:06,140
d

1608
00:43:06,140 --> 00:43:07,443
of trust we need to continue t

1609
00:43:07,443 --> 00:43:07,546
o

1610
00:43:07,546 --> 00:43:11,172
build with the public, so

1611
00:43:11,172 --> 00:43:11,972
certainly I support that.

1612
00:43:11,972 --> 00:43:13,503
I'm on the fence about the tim

1613
00:43:13,503 --> 00:43:14,973
e

1614
00:43:14,973 --> 00:43:16,311
frames, because while part of m

1615
00:43:16,311 --> 00:43:16,311
e

1616
00:43:16,311 --> 00:43:19,512
would like to jump into it.

1617
00:43:19,512 --> 00:43:20,724
another part of me thinks from

1618
00:43:20,724 --> 00:43:20,852


1619
00:43:20,852 --> 00:43:22,950
the perspective of where we may

1620
00:43:22,950 --> 00:43:23,093


1621
00:43:23,093 --> 00:43:26,055
be down the line, and that lev

1622
00:43:26,055 --> 00:43:26,055
el

1623
00:43:26,055 --> 00:43:27,527
of just not knowing who will b

1624
00:43:27,527 --> 00:43:27,867
e

1625
00:43:27,867 --> 00:43:30,291
here, and I remember some

1626
00:43:30,291 --> 00:43:31,790
comments by some of my

1627
00:43:31,790 --> 00:43:32,807
colleagues who are here with u

1628
00:43:32,807 --> 00:43:32,926
s

1629
00:43:32,926 --> 00:43:34,465
now about wishing they had had

1630
00:43:34,465 --> 00:43:34,594


1631
00:43:34,594 --> 00:43:37,839
the desire to be a part of the

1632
00:43:37,839 --> 00:43:38,640


1633
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:40,440
process n making a selection

1634
00:43:40,440 --> 00:43:41,470
that occurred just before they

1635
00:43:41,470 --> 00:43:41,816


1636
00:43:41,816 --> 00:43:42,198
got here.

1637
00:43:42,198 --> 00:43:44,042
I'm sensitive to throws types o

1638
00:43:44,042 --> 00:43:44,042
f

1639
00:43:44,042 --> 00:43:46,332
things, if I put myself in that

1640
00:43:46,332 --> 00:43:46,510


1641
00:43:46,510 --> 00:43:48,242
situation, where I had just

1642
00:43:48,242 --> 00:43:49,615
missed that opportunity and

1643
00:43:49,615 --> 00:43:50,431
literally the individuals who

1644
00:43:50,431 --> 00:43:50,431


1645
00:43:50,431 --> 00:43:52,018
were a port of that process,

1646
00:43:52,018 --> 00:43:53,953
were no longer at the dais, tha

1647
00:43:53,953 --> 00:43:53,953
t

1648
00:43:53,953 --> 00:43:56,885
would really be something.

1649
00:43:56,885 --> 00:43:58,747
I'd like to get down to

1650
00:43:58,747 --> 00:44:00,786
business, absolutely, but I als

1651
00:44:00,786 --> 00:44:00,786
o

1652
00:44:00,786 --> 00:44:03,427
am sensitive to the fact that

1653
00:44:03,427 --> 00:44:03,427


1654
00:44:03,427 --> 00:44:05,499
whoever is sitting at this dai

1655
00:44:05,499 --> 00:44:05,692
s

1656
00:44:05,692 --> 00:44:10,136
should be a part of making tha

1657
00:44:10,136 --> 00:44:10,400
t

1658
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:11,928
decision in who they will have

1659
00:44:11,928 --> 00:44:12,237


1660
00:44:12,237 --> 00:44:13,611
the opportunity to work with,

1661
00:44:13,611 --> 00:44:13,611


1662
00:44:13,611 --> 00:44:14,700
when they're seated here.

1663
00:44:14,700 --> 00:44:16,932
I'll conclude my comments with

1664
00:44:16,932 --> 00:44:17,138


1665
00:44:17,138 --> 00:44:18,546
that but the public being

1666
00:44:18,546 --> 00:44:20,936
involved in this process is

1667
00:44:20,936 --> 00:44:21,479
really my most important piece

1668
00:44:21,479 --> 00:44:21,479
.

1669
00:44:21,479 --> 00:44:25,187
>> thank you, commissioner

1670
00:44:25,187 --> 00:44:26,090
duncan walker.

1671
00:44:26,090 --> 00:44:27,045
commissioner eastman?

1672
00:44:27,045 --> 00:44:27,842
>> thank you.

1673
00:44:27,842 --> 00:44:29,479
before I spoke on doing the

1674
00:44:29,479 --> 00:44:30,680
public process, before I do

1675
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:33,228
that, I want to say, mr. Mayor

1676
00:44:33,228 --> 00:44:33,423


1677
00:44:33,423 --> 00:44:35,956
in the last process that we ha

1678
00:44:35,956 --> 00:44:35,956
d,

1679
00:44:35,956 --> 00:44:37,898
where we were deciding about -

1680
00:44:37,898 --> 00:44:38,162
-

1681
00:44:38,162 --> 00:44:39,226
when you first came into office

1682
00:44:39,226 --> 00:44:39,226
,

1683
00:44:39,226 --> 00:44:41,696
there was a slew of -- everyon

1684
00:44:41,696 --> 00:44:42,358
e

1685
00:44:42,358 --> 00:44:43,905
was interim at that point.

1686
00:44:43,905 --> 00:44:45,733
one permanent.

1687
00:44:45,733 --> 00:44:47,970
you made the recommendation to

1688
00:44:47,970 --> 00:44:47,970
ma

1689
00:44:47,970 --> 00:44:48,947
make all of those -- to move

1690
00:44:48,947 --> 00:44:53,706
from interim to the permanent

1691
00:44:53,706 --> 00:44:53,706


1692
00:44:53,706 --> 00:44:53,706
positions.

1693
00:44:53,706 --> 00:44:54,671
that was brand new in the role.

1694
00:44:54,671 --> 00:44:54,671


1695
00:44:54,671 --> 00:44:57,264
I would say you were 100% right

1696
00:44:57,264 --> 00:44:57,500
abou

1697
00:44:57,500 --> 00:44:57,766
about that.  We

1698
00:44:57,766 --> 00:44:59,566
we had no idea what we were

1699
00:44:59,566 --> 00:45:00,449
about to go through.

1700
00:45:00,449 --> 00:45:02,062
there's no way we could have

1701
00:45:02,062 --> 00:45:04,355
told the future, I was thankful

1702
00:45:04,355 --> 00:45:04,583


1703
00:45:04,583 --> 00:45:05,880
for you for taking that kind o

1704
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:05,976
f

1705
00:45:05,976 --> 00:45:07,420
a stance, and in this instance

1706
00:45:07,420 --> 00:45:08,257
,

1707
00:45:08,257 --> 00:45:10,664
I -- I still feel now as I do

1708
00:45:10,664 --> 00:45:10,664


1709
00:45:10,664 --> 00:45:12,361
then, that this is an important

1710
00:45:12,361 --> 00:45:13,044


1711
00:45:13,044 --> 00:45:15,058
process to go through.

1712
00:45:15,058 --> 00:45:17,268
but just to give some credence

1713
00:45:17,268 --> 00:45:17,738


1714
00:45:17,738 --> 00:45:24,873
to what your point was at the

1715
00:45:24,873 --> 00:45:24,873


1716
00:45:24,873 --> 00:45:24,873
time.

1717
00:45:24,873 --> 00:45:27,536
I am in favor, but I didn't get

1718
00:45:27,536 --> 00:45:27,780


1719
00:45:27,780 --> 00:45:29,793
into option one or option two,

1720
00:45:29,793 --> 00:45:30,339
I

1721
00:45:30,339 --> 00:45:32,084
support commissioner chestnut's,

1722
00:45:32,084 --> 00:45:33,579
what you said about option one,

1723
00:45:33,579 --> 00:45:34,047


1724
00:45:34,047 --> 00:45:35,328
I think there's always going t

1725
00:45:35,328 --> 00:45:35,418
o   be

1726
00:45:35,418 --> 00:45:36,490
be more questions, more thought

1727
00:45:36,490 --> 00:45:36,490
s

1728
00:45:36,490 --> 00:45:39,941
as to where we -- you know, that

1729
00:45:39,941 --> 00:45:39,941


1730
00:45:39,941 --> 00:45:41,450
we could hold this off for

1731
00:45:41,450 --> 00:45:42,651
longer, I think it's important

1732
00:45:42,651 --> 00:45:42,831


1733
00:45:42,831 --> 00:45:44,630
to get someone in that is

1734
00:45:44,630 --> 00:45:45,583
permanent and get this done as

1735
00:45:45,583 --> 00:45:46,023


1736
00:45:46,023 --> 00:45:47,494
opposed to have this holdout for

1737
00:45:47,494 --> 00:45:47,494


1738
00:45:47,494 --> 00:45:47,932
a while.

1739
00:45:47,932 --> 00:45:49,730
regardless of what we do, I'll

1740
00:45:49,730 --> 00:45:50,700


1741
00:45:50,700 --> 00:45:51,662
point out this ends.

1742
00:45:51,662 --> 00:45:54,560
if you look at the time line, we

1743
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:54,560


1744
00:45:54,560 --> 00:45:55,867
are interviewing folks, and this

1745
00:45:55,867 --> 00:45:55,867


1746
00:45:55,867 --> 00:45:59,980
comes to a decision point in

1747
00:45:59,980 --> 00:45:59,980
december.

1748
00:45:59,980 --> 00:46:03,439
we do the final employment

1749
00:46:03,439 --> 00:46:04,784
agreement in week 16, we selec

1750
00:46:04,784 --> 00:46:05,910
t

1751
00:46:05,910 --> 00:46:08,116
the charter officer week 14 and

1752
00:46:08,116 --> 00:46:08,444


1753
00:46:08,444 --> 00:46:08,444
15.

1754
00:46:08,444 --> 00:46:10,498
there's ample opportunity for

1755
00:46:10,498 --> 00:46:10,498


1756
00:46:10,498 --> 00:46:12,497
whoever runs and wins, which m

1757
00:46:12,497 --> 00:46:12,497
ay

1758
00:46:12,497 --> 00:46:15,435
end in august, aas opposed to

1759
00:46:15,435 --> 00:46:15,435


1760
00:46:15,435 --> 00:46:16,412
november and december.

1761
00:46:16,412 --> 00:46:19,560
even if there is a runoff for

1762
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:19,560


1763
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:20,139
that person to come in and hav

1764
00:46:20,139 --> 00:46:20,226
e

1765
00:46:20,226 --> 00:46:20,824
a say in that.

1766
00:46:20,824 --> 00:46:22,390
I would rather just have this.

1767
00:46:22,390 --> 00:46:22,390


1768
00:46:22,390 --> 00:46:24,600
I would rather get this done,

1769
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:24,600


1770
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,300
have this off the table and be

1771
00:46:26,300 --> 00:46:26,496


1772
00:46:26,496 --> 00:46:28,304
able to move through to other

1773
00:46:28,304 --> 00:46:28,304


1774
00:46:28,304 --> 00:46:28,304
priorities.

1775
00:46:28,304 --> 00:46:30,062
I would support option one.

1776
00:46:30,062 --> 00:46:30,328
thank you.

1777
00:46:30,328 --> 00:46:33,539
>> mayor: thank you,

1778
00:46:33,539 --> 00:46:34,706
commissioner eastman,

1779
00:46:34,706 --> 00:46:38,480
commissioner willits?

1780
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:39,607
>> thank you, mayor.

1781
00:46:39,607 --> 00:46:41,012
new commissioners may have a

1782
00:46:41,012 --> 00:46:43,486
say, which I like input, but a

1783
00:46:43,486 --> 00:46:43,686


1784
00:46:43,686 --> 00:46:45,214
say is a vote, you know, and t

1785
00:46:45,214 --> 00:46:45,214
he

1786
00:46:45,214 --> 00:46:47,562
thing is, we go with option 1,

1787
00:46:47,562 --> 00:46:47,987


1788
00:46:47,987 --> 00:46:50,024
you can literally have a

1789
00:46:50,024 --> 00:46:51,019
majority of this commission

1790
00:46:51,019 --> 00:46:52,996
that's not going to work with

1791
00:46:52,996 --> 00:46:52,996


1792
00:46:52,996 --> 00:46:54,296
this new manager.

1793
00:46:54,296 --> 00:46:56,770
not people who lose an electio

1794
00:46:56,770 --> 00:46:56,953
n

1795
00:46:56,953 --> 00:46:58,868
are going to say -- oh, I'm

1796
00:46:58,868 --> 00:47:00,016
going to stick you with the dud

1797
00:47:00,016 --> 00:47:00,988


1798
00:47:00,988 --> 00:47:02,972
or something, but they won't

1799
00:47:02,972 --> 00:47:04,246
have to face the consequences of

1800
00:47:04,246 --> 00:47:04,246


1801
00:47:04,246 --> 00:47:06,714
working with the next manager.

1802
00:47:06,714 --> 00:47:06,714


1803
00:47:06,714 --> 00:47:08,656
and I have a lot of trust in m

1804
00:47:08,656 --> 00:47:09,106
y

1805
00:47:09,106 --> 00:47:10,946
colleagues, we try to do what'

1806
00:47:10,946 --> 00:47:11,141
s

1807
00:47:11,141 --> 00:47:13,110
right, kind of for the long

1808
00:47:13,110 --> 00:47:14,854
term, not necessarily what an

1809
00:47:14,854 --> 00:47:14,854


1810
00:47:14,854 --> 00:47:16,720
individual needs or wants, wha

1811
00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:16,882
t

1812
00:47:16,882 --> 00:47:18,182
the community needs or wants.

1813
00:47:18,182 --> 00:47:20,096
that's why I lean toward optio

1814
00:47:20,096 --> 00:47:20,320
n

1815
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:22,023
two, I get a -- I don't always

1816
00:47:22,023 --> 00:47:22,658


1817
00:47:22,658 --> 00:47:24,763
think that we should have to

1818
00:47:24,763 --> 00:47:25,858
like -- there's always going t

1819
00:47:25,858 --> 00:47:25,896
o

1820
00:47:25,896 --> 00:47:29,375
be an election, an issue, if w

1821
00:47:29,375 --> 00:47:29,418
e

1822
00:47:29,418 --> 00:47:30,830
were doing this last fall, wou

1823
00:47:30,830 --> 00:47:30,830
ld

1824
00:47:30,830 --> 00:47:32,602
I have said yeah, let's get it

1825
00:47:32,602 --> 00:47:32,835


1826
00:47:32,835 --> 00:47:33,697
done right there.

1827
00:47:33,697 --> 00:47:35,697
in my mind, we're close enough

1828
00:47:35,697 --> 00:47:36,203
,

1829
00:47:36,203 --> 00:47:37,900
looking out that, okay, make

1830
00:47:37,900 --> 00:47:39,576
this that process, and the new

1831
00:47:39,576 --> 00:47:40,040


1832
00:47:40,040 --> 00:47:41,943
commissioners would be able to

1833
00:47:41,943 --> 00:47:42,256


1834
00:47:42,256 --> 00:47:43,356
in january -- even in october,

1835
00:47:43,356 --> 00:47:44,454


1836
00:47:44,454 --> 00:47:48,447
they will know who applicants

1837
00:47:48,447 --> 00:47:48,447


1838
00:47:48,447 --> 00:47:48,447
are.

1839
00:47:48,447 --> 00:47:51,312
by december, know who the

1840
00:47:51,312 --> 00:47:52,464
finalists are, there's a

1841
00:47:52,464 --> 00:47:54,252
process, and they can hit the

1842
00:47:54,252 --> 00:47:54,252


1843
00:47:54,252 --> 00:47:58,725
ground in january, having

1844
00:47:58,725 --> 00:48:00,292
conversations and be able to

1845
00:48:00,292 --> 00:48:01,659
vote, that's what I lean toward

1846
00:48:01,659 --> 00:48:01,786


1847
00:48:01,786 --> 00:48:01,786
too.

1848
00:48:01,786 --> 00:48:01,786
thanks.

1849
00:48:01,786 --> 00:48:06,531
>> mayor: thank you,

1850
00:48:06,531 --> 00:48:08,150
commissioner chestnut?

1851
00:48:08,150 --> 00:48:10,444
>> yes, I just want to add,

1852
00:48:10,444 --> 00:48:12,846
commissioner eastman was elected

1853
00:48:12,846 --> 00:48:12,846


1854
00:48:12,846 --> 00:48:16,546
in august and could not be

1855
00:48:16,546 --> 00:48:17,284
seated until january.

1856
00:48:17,284 --> 00:48:19,788
we involved him in each -- he

1857
00:48:19,788 --> 00:48:19,788


1858
00:48:19,788 --> 00:48:21,757
was invited to sit at the table

1859
00:48:21,757 --> 00:48:22,044


1860
00:48:22,044 --> 00:48:23,160
in each discussion, so that he

1861
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:23,160


1862
00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,295
was involved in the process.

1863
00:48:25,295 --> 00:48:29,128
while he did not have a vote, h

1864
00:48:29,128 --> 00:48:29,128
e

1865
00:48:29,128 --> 00:48:29,886
had a voice.

1866
00:48:29,886 --> 00:48:32,056
and we heard his voice.

1867
00:48:32,056 --> 00:48:34,465
so that's why I was going with

1868
00:48:34,465 --> 00:48:34,597


1869
00:48:34,597 --> 00:48:38,365
option one, because I think --

1870
00:48:38,365 --> 00:48:38,635
I

1871
00:48:38,635 --> 00:48:41,175
suspect all of you will be

1872
00:48:41,175 --> 00:48:45,443
re-elected in august, except f

1873
00:48:45,443 --> 00:48:45,443
or

1874
00:48:45,443 --> 00:48:47,568
one --

1875
00:48:47,568 --> 00:48:48,180
[ inaudible ]

1876
00:48:48,180 --> 00:48:49,277
and you'll be at the table unt

1877
00:48:49,277 --> 00:48:49,277
il

1878
00:48:49,277 --> 00:48:51,395
we begin that process in

1879
00:48:51,395 --> 00:48:51,395
january.

1880
00:48:51,395 --> 00:48:51,834
thank you.

1881
00:48:51,834 --> 00:48:54,758
>> mayor: thank you.

1882
00:48:54,758 --> 00:48:56,628
commissioner chestnut, I

1883
00:48:56,628 --> 00:49:00,120
appreciate your optimism, but I

1884
00:49:00,120 --> 00:49:00,822


1885
00:49:00,822 --> 00:49:04,088
do want us to be mindful that

1886
00:49:04,088 --> 00:49:04,088


1887
00:49:04,088 --> 00:49:06,192
because of what we've said, thi

1888
00:49:06,192 --> 00:49:06,192
s

1889
00:49:06,192 --> 00:49:08,594
is likely -- or at least

1890
00:49:08,594 --> 00:49:10,862
potentially to become a campaig

1891
00:49:10,862 --> 00:49:10,862
n

1892
00:49:10,862 --> 00:49:14,599
issue if we do it with option

1893
00:49:14,599 --> 00:49:14,599


1894
00:49:14,599 --> 00:49:14,599
one.

1895
00:49:14,599 --> 00:49:20,308
I don't think you want to chose

1896
00:49:20,308 --> 00:49:20,436


1897
00:49:20,436 --> 00:49:25,412
a city manager by ballot, that'

1898
00:49:25,412 --> 00:49:25,412
s

1899
00:49:25,412 --> 00:49:26,168
not our system.

1900
00:49:26,168 --> 00:49:28,617
I'm not saying it's a bad

1901
00:49:28,617 --> 00:49:29,952
system, but that's not what our

1902
00:49:29,952 --> 00:49:30,220


1903
00:49:30,220 --> 00:49:34,234
system is supposed to be.

1904
00:49:34,234 --> 00:49:37,046
I for that reason would be more

1905
00:49:37,046 --> 00:49:37,681


1906
00:49:37,681 --> 00:49:38,958
comfortable with making it

1907
00:49:38,958 --> 00:49:39,224
option two.

1908
00:49:39,224 --> 00:49:41,368
if there are four new people

1909
00:49:41,368 --> 00:49:42,696
here, I want to make sure they

1910
00:49:42,696 --> 00:49:42,834


1911
00:49:42,834 --> 00:49:43,262
get a vote.

1912
00:49:43,262 --> 00:49:45,712
the one we know is going to be

1913
00:49:45,712 --> 00:49:45,960


1914
00:49:45,960 --> 00:49:50,400
different, gets a vote on who

1915
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:50,400


1916
00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:51,607
they're going to be working wit

1917
00:49:51,607 --> 00:49:51,607
h

1918
00:49:51,607 --> 00:49:52,648
as city manager.

1919
00:49:52,648 --> 00:49:54,214
I'm generally open to the other

1920
00:49:54,214 --> 00:49:55,006


1921
00:49:55,006 --> 00:49:58,424
one, but the politicization of

1922
00:49:58,424 --> 00:49:58,510


1923
00:49:58,510 --> 00:50:01,882
it leads me to option 2.

1924
00:50:01,882 --> 00:50:05,418
and I want to say, also,

1925
00:50:05,418 --> 00:50:06,916
commissioner willits, I hear

1926
00:50:06,916 --> 00:50:08,360
what you're saying about the

1927
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:09,924
property tax vote and that sor

1928
00:50:09,924 --> 00:50:10,486
t

1929
00:50:10,486 --> 00:50:14,403
of thing, anyone who might app

1930
00:50:14,403 --> 00:50:14,403
ly

1931
00:50:14,403 --> 00:50:16,626
who is anyone we want to hire

1932
00:50:16,626 --> 00:50:16,626
is

1933
00:50:16,626 --> 00:50:17,938
already watching that they're

1934
00:50:17,938 --> 00:50:17,938


1935
00:50:17,938 --> 00:50:18,478
already on it.

1936
00:50:18,478 --> 00:50:20,736
and if they're not again,

1937
00:50:20,736 --> 00:50:23,614
they're probably not someone w

1938
00:50:23,614 --> 00:50:25,575
e

1939
00:50:25,575 --> 00:50:27,771
want to hire.

1940
00:50:27,771 --> 00:50:30,274
everything that we take for

1941
00:50:30,274 --> 00:50:31,111
granted because we're in the

1942
00:50:31,111 --> 00:50:32,786
middle of it, people from the

1943
00:50:32,786 --> 00:50:32,786


1944
00:50:32,786 --> 00:50:35,582
outside are saying, is that

1945
00:50:35,582 --> 00:50:37,248
something I want?

1946
00:50:37,248 --> 00:50:40,486
but I would just caution us wit

1947
00:50:40,486 --> 00:50:40,486
h

1948
00:50:40,486 --> 00:50:40,486
that.

1949
00:50:40,486 --> 00:50:42,890
and again, that probably seeks

1950
00:50:42,890 --> 00:50:43,194


1951
00:50:43,194 --> 00:50:44,296
better to option two.

1952
00:50:44,296 --> 00:50:51,795
I'm open to option 2.

1953
00:50:51,795 --> 00:50:54,604
>> I'll try not to say the sam

1954
00:50:54,604 --> 00:50:54,738
e

1955
00:50:54,738 --> 00:50:55,041
thing twice.

1956
00:50:55,041 --> 00:51:00,085
I would like to throw another

1957
00:51:00,085 --> 00:51:00,085


1958
00:51:00,085 --> 00:51:02,748
reason on why I'm in favor of

1959
00:51:02,748 --> 00:51:02,748


1960
00:51:02,748 --> 00:51:04,706
option 2.

1961
00:51:04,706 --> 00:51:06,882
is that, just the other things

1962
00:51:06,882 --> 00:51:06,882


1963
00:51:06,882 --> 00:51:07,842
going on at the time.

1964
00:51:07,842 --> 00:51:09,536
in august you were looking at

1965
00:51:09,536 --> 00:51:09,536


1966
00:51:09,536 --> 00:51:10,968
elections that I think a lot o

1967
00:51:10,968 --> 00:51:11,316
f

1968
00:51:11,316 --> 00:51:13,290
us would be focused on, and the

1969
00:51:13,290 --> 00:51:13,290
n

1970
00:51:13,290 --> 00:51:14,342
september you were going to be

1971
00:51:14,342 --> 00:51:14,722


1972
00:51:14,722 --> 00:51:16,190
looking at the middle of budge

1973
00:51:16,190 --> 00:51:16,394
t

1974
00:51:16,394 --> 00:51:19,229
season, which is probably one o

1975
00:51:19,229 --> 00:51:19,229
f

1976
00:51:19,229 --> 00:51:21,427
the most intense things we do.

1977
00:51:21,427 --> 00:51:21,427


1978
00:51:21,427 --> 00:51:23,758
and it seems like a lot of

1979
00:51:23,758 --> 00:51:26,343
overlap to start this process I

1980
00:51:26,343 --> 00:51:26,343
n

1981
00:51:26,343 --> 00:51:27,939
the middle of.

1982
00:51:27,939 --> 00:51:30,598
if this is going to be a long

1983
00:51:30,598 --> 00:51:30,598


1984
00:51:30,598 --> 00:51:31,944
process, I just assume it be t

1985
00:51:31,944 --> 00:51:31,944
he

1986
00:51:31,944 --> 00:51:34,206
focus of what we're doing, I

1987
00:51:34,206 --> 00:51:35,610
think option two puts the bulk

1988
00:51:35,610 --> 00:51:35,824
of

1989
00:51:35,824 --> 00:51:37,326
of that work into a time that w

1990
00:51:37,326 --> 00:51:37,326
e

1991
00:51:37,326 --> 00:51:39,878
usually got the ability to foc

1992
00:51:39,878 --> 00:51:39,878
us

1993
00:51:39,878 --> 00:51:42,120
on that issue, instead of

1994
00:51:42,120 --> 00:51:44,299
looking at the budget, looking

1995
00:51:44,299 --> 00:51:44,583


1996
00:51:44,583 --> 00:51:46,219
at all these other things that

1997
00:51:46,219 --> 00:51:46,219


1998
00:51:46,219 --> 00:51:46,615
are going on.

1999
00:51:46,615 --> 00:51:48,317
I'm an option 2 fan, but that'

2000
00:51:48,317 --> 00:51:48,409
s

2001
00:51:48,409 --> 00:51:48,799
where I stand on that.

2002
00:51:48,799 --> 00:51:52,875
>> mayor: thank you,

2003
00:51:52,875 --> 00:51:53,232
commissioner ingle.

2004
00:51:53,232 --> 00:51:53,925
commissioner book.

2005
00:51:53,925 --> 00:51:56,260
>> just hearing so many comment

2006
00:51:56,260 --> 00:51:56,260
s

2007
00:51:56,260 --> 00:51:58,407
makes me lean toward the first

2008
00:51:58,407 --> 00:51:58,670


2009
00:51:58,670 --> 00:51:58,670
option.

2010
00:51:58,670 --> 00:52:00,749
and the reason for that, I

2011
00:52:00,749 --> 00:52:08,512
always like to depoliticize

2012
00:52:08,512 --> 00:52:09,574
anything we're doing.

2013
00:52:09,574 --> 00:52:13,713
I know people will know we're

2014
00:52:13,713 --> 00:52:13,713


2015
00:52:13,713 --> 00:52:15,517
looking at decisions, whether I

2016
00:52:15,517 --> 00:52:15,517
t

2017
00:52:15,517 --> 00:52:16,925
benefits us or doesn't benefit

2018
00:52:16,925 --> 00:52:16,925


2019
00:52:16,925 --> 00:52:16,925
us.

2020
00:52:16,925 --> 00:52:22,524
the least political decision w

2021
00:52:22,524 --> 00:52:22,625
e

2022
00:52:22,625 --> 00:52:24,134
can make, we always have

2023
00:52:24,134 --> 00:52:25,529
tremendous amounts of other big

2024
00:52:25,529 --> 00:52:25,861


2025
00:52:25,861 --> 00:52:26,325
things going on.

2026
00:52:26,325 --> 00:52:28,225
I think the fact that anybody,

2027
00:52:28,225 --> 00:52:28,683


2028
00:52:28,683 --> 00:52:31,400
even if I'm not rerunning, for

2029
00:52:31,400 --> 00:52:31,485


2030
00:52:31,485 --> 00:52:33,600
example, you -- I feel like I

2031
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:33,600


2032
00:52:33,600 --> 00:52:34,697
will have a voice regardless.

2033
00:52:34,697 --> 00:52:36,536
I'm going to support either

2034
00:52:36,536 --> 00:52:38,116
option, I think the process is

2035
00:52:38,116 --> 00:52:38,379


2036
00:52:38,379 --> 00:52:40,610
much more important than any o

2037
00:52:40,610 --> 00:52:40,610
ne

2038
00:52:40,610 --> 00:52:41,181
of us.

2039
00:52:41,181 --> 00:52:43,027
but I think taking any of the,

2040
00:52:43,027 --> 00:52:43,442


2041
00:52:43,442 --> 00:52:45,341
who's going to be elected and

2042
00:52:45,341 --> 00:52:45,341


2043
00:52:45,341 --> 00:52:46,849
who's going to be sitting up

2044
00:52:46,849 --> 00:52:49,152
here out of the equation is

2045
00:52:49,152 --> 00:52:50,211
possible, even though people

2046
00:52:50,211 --> 00:52:52,285
will give, they will think tha

2047
00:52:52,285 --> 00:52:53,128
t

2048
00:52:53,128 --> 00:52:54,517
we may have explanations that

2049
00:52:54,517 --> 00:52:54,517


2050
00:52:54,517 --> 00:52:57,394
lean toward one or the other I

2051
00:52:57,394 --> 00:52:58,152
s

2052
00:52:58,152 --> 00:52:58,152
important.

2053
00:52:58,152 --> 00:53:00,292
that's just me.

2054
00:53:00,292 --> 00:53:00,883
>> mayor: thank you,

2055
00:53:00,883 --> 00:53:01,215
commissioner book.

2056
00:53:01,215 --> 00:53:07,028
does someone want to make a

2057
00:53:07,028 --> 00:53:08,662
motion, commissioner chestnut?

2058
00:53:08,662 --> 00:53:08,662


2059
00:53:08,662 --> 00:53:13,079
>> it looks like we would have

2060
00:53:13,079 --> 00:53:13,217


2061
00:53:13,217 --> 00:53:14,881
support, total support for

2062
00:53:14,881 --> 00:53:17,979
option two, so I will move tha

2063
00:53:17,979 --> 00:53:18,243
t

2064
00:53:18,243 --> 00:53:21,945
we begin the search process and

2065
00:53:21,945 --> 00:53:22,395


2066
00:53:22,395 --> 00:53:26,052
start that process beginning I

2067
00:53:26,052 --> 00:53:26,381
n

2068
00:53:26,381 --> 00:53:26,381
october.

2069
00:53:26,381 --> 00:53:28,253
hopefully to conclude in

2070
00:53:28,253 --> 00:53:28,253
february.

2071
00:53:28,253 --> 00:53:29,119
>> second.

2072
00:53:29,119 --> 00:53:30,527
>> mayor: we have a motion and

2073
00:53:30,527 --> 00:53:31,057
a

2074
00:53:31,057 --> 00:53:31,057
second.

2075
00:53:31,057 --> 00:53:32,023
all in favor?

2076
00:53:32,023 --> 00:53:33,021
>> aye.

2077
00:53:33,021 --> 00:53:34,431
>> mayor: any opposed?

2078
00:53:34,431 --> 00:53:34,867
that passes unanimously.

2079
00:53:34,867 --> 00:53:38,963
thank you all for the excellent

2080
00:53:38,963 --> 00:53:39,227


2081
00:53:39,227 --> 00:53:42,743
conversation on that.

2082
00:53:42,743 --> 00:53:46,873
and miss gretz you have your

2083
00:53:46,873 --> 00:53:47,231
work ahead of you.

2084
00:53:47,231 --> 00:53:55,578
>> we're on to 2026-225 public

2085
00:53:55,578 --> 00:53:56,181


2086
00:53:56,181 --> 00:53:58,925
works department update.

2087
00:53:58,925 --> 00:53:59,801
>> mayor: welcome.

2088
00:53:59,801 --> 00:54:02,668
>> good morning mr. Mayor,

2089
00:54:02,668 --> 00:54:02,668
commissioners.

2090
00:54:02,668 --> 00:54:06,077
this is our very first public

2091
00:54:06,077 --> 00:54:06,077


2092
00:54:06,077 --> 00:54:06,698
works departmentwide update.

2093
00:54:06,698 --> 00:54:08,556
and I know there are a lot of

2094
00:54:08,556 --> 00:54:08,556


2095
00:54:08,556 --> 00:54:10,496
slides -- it will be a longer

2096
00:54:10,496 --> 00:54:10,496


2097
00:54:10,496 --> 00:54:11,473
presentation than what we'll d

2098
00:54:11,473 --> 00:54:11,633
o

2099
00:54:11,633 --> 00:54:13,491
in the future, but we'll try to

2100
00:54:13,491 --> 00:54:13,491


2101
00:54:13,491 --> 00:54:14,795
keep it rolling through.

2102
00:54:14,795 --> 00:54:24,341
I want to talk about the

2103
00:54:24,341 --> 00:54:26,735
origination of public works,

2104
00:54:26,735 --> 00:54:29,983
started in 1933, with the new

2105
00:54:29,983 --> 00:54:29,983


2106
00:54:29,983 --> 00:54:31,625
deal and the public works

2107
00:54:31,625 --> 00:54:35,751
administration, and the civil

2108
00:54:35,751 --> 00:54:35,751


2109
00:54:35,751 --> 00:54:36,118
conservation core.

2110
00:54:36,118 --> 00:54:41,125
streets, highways, bridges,

2111
00:54:41,125 --> 00:54:42,238
hospitals, even though the pwa

2112
00:54:42,238 --> 00:54:42,965


2113
00:54:42,965 --> 00:54:44,427
was short lived it shut down in

2114
00:54:44,427 --> 00:54:44,612


2115
00:54:44,612 --> 00:54:46,701
1944, it created a lot of

2116
00:54:46,701 --> 00:54:49,081
infrastructure, including the

2117
00:54:49,081 --> 00:54:49,081


2118
00:54:49,081 --> 00:54:50,811
hoover dam, which I think I hav

2119
00:54:50,811 --> 00:54:50,811
e

2120
00:54:50,811 --> 00:54:51,869
the right pointer.

2121
00:54:51,869 --> 00:54:53,281
>> mayor: I was going to ask you

2122
00:54:53,281 --> 00:54:53,281


2123
00:54:53,281 --> 00:54:53,811
what district that was in.

2124
00:54:53,811 --> 00:54:59,855
>> and the reason why I -- the

2125
00:54:59,855 --> 00:54:59,855


2126
00:54:59,855 --> 00:55:01,949
hoover dam started in 1931, so

2127
00:55:01,949 --> 00:55:02,323


2128
00:55:02,323 --> 00:55:03,448
before the public works

2129
00:55:03,448 --> 00:55:04,987
administration, it was finished

2130
00:55:04,987 --> 00:55:05,285


2131
00:55:05,285 --> 00:55:08,057
with the help of pwa.

2132
00:55:08,057 --> 00:55:17,841
I chose to use that photo,

2133
00:55:17,841 --> 00:55:20,937
because it was named after

2134
00:55:20,937 --> 00:55:21,639
herbert hoover.

2135
00:55:21,639 --> 00:55:24,813
we also have some gainesville

2136
00:55:24,813 --> 00:55:24,813


2137
00:55:24,813 --> 00:55:27,177
area, early public works, and

2138
00:55:27,177 --> 00:55:27,177


2139
00:55:27,177 --> 00:55:32,611
that includes the bullwart

2140
00:55:32,611 --> 00:55:34,346
springs, it started in 1891, a

2141
00:55:34,346 --> 00:55:34,346
nd

2142
00:55:34,346 --> 00:55:36,986
it was part of the city's first

2143
00:55:36,986 --> 00:55:37,589


2144
00:55:37,589 --> 00:55:40,321
municipal water utility, until

2145
00:55:40,321 --> 00:55:40,527


2146
00:55:40,527 --> 00:55:43,027
1913, and then it later

2147
00:55:43,027 --> 00:55:45,263
functioned as an auxiliary wat

2148
00:55:45,263 --> 00:55:45,263
er

2149
00:55:45,263 --> 00:55:45,263
source.

2150
00:55:45,263 --> 00:55:47,909
now it's an historic place.

2151
00:55:47,909 --> 00:55:50,727
I included in a smaller level,

2152
00:55:50,727 --> 00:55:57,891
the apwa acronym, so we

2153
00:55:57,891 --> 00:55:58,499
are --

2154
00:55:58,499 --> 00:55:58,823
[ inaudible ]

2155
00:55:58,823 --> 00:56:00,509
it was founded originally in

2156
00:56:00,509 --> 00:56:02,809
1937, and we've been a long

2157
00:56:02,809 --> 00:56:04,273
accredited member, what does

2158
00:56:04,273 --> 00:56:05,351
that mean in short terms?

2159
00:56:05,351 --> 00:56:07,442
it means we follow a certain

2160
00:56:07,442 --> 00:56:08,779
standard of policies and

2161
00:56:08,779 --> 00:56:11,316
procedures, and we implement a

2162
00:56:11,316 --> 00:56:11,378


2163
00:56:11,378 --> 00:56:13,184
best management, standard

2164
00:56:13,184 --> 00:56:16,092
practice of work that meets the

2165
00:56:16,092 --> 00:56:16,659


2166
00:56:16,659 --> 00:56:18,763
pwa standards.

2167
00:56:18,763 --> 00:56:22,435
we go through an accreditation

2168
00:56:22,435 --> 00:56:22,921


2169
00:56:22,921 --> 00:56:23,667
process for years.

2170
00:56:23,667 --> 00:56:28,433
we're one of 172 agencies in

2171
00:56:28,433 --> 00:56:29,666
north america and canada that

2172
00:56:29,666 --> 00:56:29,666


2173
00:56:29,666 --> 00:56:30,438
are credited.

2174
00:56:30,438 --> 00:56:32,848
and 27 in florida.

2175
00:56:32,848 --> 00:56:34,577
we're currently going through

2176
00:56:34,577 --> 00:56:34,577


2177
00:56:34,577 --> 00:56:38,242
the reaccreditation process no

2178
00:56:38,242 --> 00:56:38,242
w.

2179
00:56:38,242 --> 00:56:41,614
just real quick on our public

2180
00:56:41,614 --> 00:56:41,614


2181
00:56:41,614 --> 00:56:43,619
works mission, it's to basically

2182
00:56:43,619 --> 00:56:43,619


2183
00:56:43,619 --> 00:56:46,786
enhance the quality life for

2184
00:56:46,786 --> 00:56:48,295
gainesville community by

2185
00:56:48,295 --> 00:56:52,080
maintaining and managing our

2186
00:56:52,080 --> 00:56:54,767
infrastructure and solid waste

2187
00:56:54,767 --> 00:56:55,293


2188
00:56:55,293 --> 00:56:55,293
services.

2189
00:56:55,293 --> 00:56:58,028
we do have a lot of assets tha

2190
00:56:58,028 --> 00:56:58,302
t

2191
00:56:58,302 --> 00:57:02,108
we manage, that includes 401

2192
00:57:02,108 --> 00:57:04,868
center line miles of road.

2193
00:57:04,868 --> 00:57:08,181
sidewalks, 205 miles, we hav

2194
00:57:08,181 --> 00:57:09,934
some significant assets out

2195
00:57:09,934 --> 00:57:09,934
there.

2196
00:57:09,934 --> 00:57:13,812
traffic infrastructure, we hav

2197
00:57:13,812 --> 00:57:14,177
e

2198
00:57:14,177 --> 00:57:16,586
251 interconnected traffic

2199
00:57:16,586 --> 00:57:18,348
signals, we maintain the entire

2200
00:57:18,348 --> 00:57:18,655


2201
00:57:18,655 --> 00:57:19,722
traffic signals for the county

2202
00:57:19,722 --> 00:57:19,956
,

2203
00:57:19,956 --> 00:57:22,186
that includes ourselves, dot,

2204
00:57:22,186 --> 00:57:22,186


2205
00:57:22,186 --> 00:57:23,989
alachua county, and what we cal

2206
00:57:23,989 --> 00:57:23,989
l

2207
00:57:23,989 --> 00:57:24,963
the seven cities.

2208
00:57:24,963 --> 00:57:27,526
if I can remember them all,

2209
00:57:27,526 --> 00:57:30,270
archer, alatch way, high

2210
00:57:30,270 --> 00:57:33,351
springs, micanopy, waldo, and I

2211
00:57:33,351 --> 00:57:33,391


2212
00:57:33,391 --> 00:57:34,236
think I hit them all, newberry.

2213
00:57:34,236 --> 00:57:34,236


2214
00:57:34,236 --> 00:57:43,211
and that's a large revenue

2215
00:57:43,211 --> 00:57:43,744
source for us too.

2216
00:57:43,744 --> 00:57:45,676
over a million dollars, I think

2217
00:57:45,676 --> 00:57:45,917


2218
00:57:45,917 --> 00:57:49,547
it's over 1.3 or $4 million tha

2219
00:57:49,547 --> 00:57:49,547
t

2220
00:57:49,547 --> 00:57:53,525
we get from seven cities, from

2221
00:57:53,525 --> 00:57:53,734


2222
00:57:53,734 --> 00:57:55,260
the dot in alachua county.

2223
00:57:55,260 --> 00:57:57,983
we are a city of creeks, some

2224
00:57:57,983 --> 00:57:57,983
of

2225
00:57:57,983 --> 00:58:00,572
our major creeks being hog tow

2226
00:58:00,572 --> 00:58:01,124
n

2227
00:58:01,124 --> 00:58:02,571
possum creek, sweetwater branch

2228
00:58:02,571 --> 00:58:02,571
,

2229
00:58:02,571 --> 00:58:05,794
and we have other little creek

2230
00:58:05,794 --> 00:58:06,012
s

2231
00:58:06,012 --> 00:58:07,728
that are tributaries to the

2232
00:58:07,728 --> 00:58:08,162
larger creeks.

2233
00:58:08,162 --> 00:58:10,533
so a lot of water quality

2234
00:58:10,533 --> 00:58:12,712
concerns and issues, a lot of

2235
00:58:12,712 --> 00:58:12,712


2236
00:58:12,712 --> 00:58:16,172
water quality and flood plain

2237
00:58:16,172 --> 00:58:16,172


2238
00:58:16,172 --> 00:58:17,519
type concerns and issues.

2239
00:58:17,519 --> 00:58:19,780
we manage all of this on a $57

2240
00:58:19,780 --> 00:58:19,915


2241
00:58:19,915 --> 00:58:21,520
million budget, and this is kin

2242
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:21,520
d

2243
00:58:21,520 --> 00:58:24,984
of a breakdown of the budget,

2244
00:58:24,984 --> 00:58:24,984


2245
00:58:24,984 --> 00:58:27,551
solid waste being our largest

2246
00:58:27,551 --> 00:58:27,551


2247
00:58:27,551 --> 00:58:27,551
component.

2248
00:58:27,551 --> 00:58:30,006
but then general fund, storm

2249
00:58:30,006 --> 00:58:35,160
water fund and we go down from

2250
00:58:35,160 --> 00:58:35,503


2251
00:58:35,503 --> 00:58:35,503
there.

2252
00:58:35,503 --> 00:58:39,355
public works does come in lots

2253
00:58:39,355 --> 00:58:39,599


2254
00:58:39,599 --> 00:58:41,669
of sizes, right?

2255
00:58:41,669 --> 00:58:44,004
some public works might only

2256
00:58:44,004 --> 00:58:44,905
have an operation section.

2257
00:58:44,905 --> 00:58:46,775
some might have an engineering

2258
00:58:46,775 --> 00:58:47,145


2259
00:58:47,145 --> 00:58:49,606
section, some might have

2260
00:58:49,606 --> 00:58:50,674
utilities, we are five

2261
00:58:50,674 --> 00:58:53,416
divisions, we have our

2262
00:58:53,416 --> 00:58:54,748
operations team led by mr. Jar

2263
00:58:54,748 --> 00:58:54,748
ed

2264
00:58:54,748 --> 00:58:56,787
lloyd, we have our engineering

2265
00:58:56,787 --> 00:58:57,112


2266
00:58:57,112 --> 00:58:59,383
team led by dr. Chase knight, w

2267
00:58:59,383 --> 00:58:59,383
e

2268
00:58:59,383 --> 00:59:03,591
have facilities management, led

2269
00:59:03,591 --> 00:59:03,853


2270
00:59:03,853 --> 00:59:04,931
by mr. Derry kaufmann.

2271
00:59:04,931 --> 00:59:09,699
our administrative team is led

2272
00:59:09,699 --> 00:59:09,788


2273
00:59:09,788 --> 00:59:13,713
by miss anissa booth who was

2274
00:59:13,713 --> 00:59:14,911
unable to be here today.

2275
00:59:14,911 --> 00:59:18,580
and our technology team is led

2276
00:59:18,580 --> 00:59:18,704


2277
00:59:18,704 --> 00:59:19,300
by steve rossi.

2278
00:59:19,300 --> 00:59:21,302
I wanted to include slides on

2279
00:59:21,302 --> 00:59:21,302


2280
00:59:21,302 --> 00:59:21,812
overall performance for us.

2281
00:59:21,812 --> 00:59:29,946
we have -- these are some raw

2282
00:59:29,946 --> 00:59:29,946


2283
00:59:29,946 --> 00:59:32,314
overall scores -- raw overall

2284
00:59:32,314 --> 00:59:32,314


2285
00:59:32,314 --> 00:59:35,317
numbers for the entire

2286
00:59:35,317 --> 00:59:35,968
department that represent

2287
00:59:35,968 --> 00:59:37,419
service requests that come in,

2288
00:59:37,419 --> 00:59:37,886


2289
00:59:37,886 --> 00:59:41,392
service requests that are close

2290
00:59:41,392 --> 00:59:41,392
d

2291
00:59:41,392 --> 00:59:43,510
and work order centers that ar

2292
00:59:43,510 --> 00:59:43,911
e

2293
00:59:43,911 --> 00:59:45,279
open, work orders that are

2294
00:59:45,279 --> 00:59:45,279
closed.

2295
00:59:45,279 --> 00:59:47,268
one of the things that I want t

2296
00:59:47,268 --> 00:59:47,268
o

2297
00:59:47,268 --> 00:59:49,363
make sure I note, the reason why

2298
00:59:49,363 --> 00:59:49,363


2299
00:59:49,363 --> 00:59:50,450
the service request here in th

2300
00:59:50,450 --> 00:59:51,666
e

2301
00:59:51,666 --> 00:59:54,241
blue and the orange seem low I

2302
00:59:54,241 --> 00:59:54,471
s

2303
00:59:54,471 --> 00:59:55,875
because there was a period of

2304
00:59:55,875 --> 00:59:55,875


2305
00:59:55,875 --> 00:59:57,745
time where solid waste was onl

2306
00:59:57,745 --> 00:59:57,915
y

2307
00:59:57,915 --> 01:00:02,249
going into gru's utility

2308
01:00:02,249 --> 01:00:03,751
software, then they changed int

2309
01:00:03,751 --> 01:00:03,751
o

2310
01:00:03,751 --> 01:00:04,697
a different platform.

2311
01:00:04,697 --> 01:00:06,121
we don't have those numbers

2312
01:00:06,121 --> 01:00:06,962
available to us right now.

2313
01:00:06,962 --> 01:00:10,993
you'll see that we have a sudde

2314
01:00:10,993 --> 01:00:10,993
n

2315
01:00:10,993 --> 01:00:12,690
increase in the service reques

2316
01:00:12,690 --> 01:00:12,690
t,

2317
01:00:12,690 --> 01:00:15,064
but that just reflects what

2318
01:00:15,064 --> 01:00:16,835
we're doing in city works, whi

2319
01:00:16,835 --> 01:00:16,835
ch

2320
01:00:16,835 --> 01:00:18,361
is where we track everything.

2321
01:00:18,361 --> 01:00:24,935
and the overall trend for us,

2322
01:00:24,935 --> 01:00:24,935


2323
01:00:24,935 --> 01:00:27,277
for service request is up, we

2324
01:00:27,277 --> 01:00:27,277


2325
01:00:27,277 --> 01:00:29,848
basically averaged in fiscal

2326
01:00:29,848 --> 01:00:32,459
'24, an average of 53 service

2327
01:00:32,459 --> 01:00:32,459


2328
01:00:32,459 --> 01:00:33,987
requests a day, we're currently

2329
01:00:33,987 --> 01:00:34,243


2330
01:00:34,243 --> 01:00:35,449
up to 76 a day.

2331
01:00:35,449 --> 01:00:37,955
those are basically every singl

2332
01:00:37,955 --> 01:00:37,955
e

2333
01:00:37,955 --> 01:00:40,289
day we get approximately that

2334
01:00:40,289 --> 01:00:40,289


2335
01:00:40,289 --> 01:00:41,419
many service request calls.

2336
01:00:41,419 --> 01:00:43,597
that's basically called -- it

2337
01:00:43,597 --> 01:00:43,597


2338
01:00:43,597 --> 01:00:45,209
doesn't mean we do any work

2339
01:00:45,209 --> 01:00:46,541
associated with it, that's

2340
01:00:46,541 --> 01:00:47,894
different than the work orders

2341
01:00:47,894 --> 01:00:48,128


2342
01:00:48,128 --> 01:00:49,505
which is the green and lighter

2343
01:00:49,505 --> 01:00:49,505


2344
01:00:49,505 --> 01:00:50,196
blue on the top.

2345
01:00:50,196 --> 01:00:51,896
in general, with those, those

2346
01:00:51,896 --> 01:00:51,896


2347
01:00:51,896 --> 01:00:53,639
are accurate for all of the

2348
01:00:53,639 --> 01:00:57,107
departments, all the groups,

2349
01:00:57,107 --> 01:00:59,607
from fiscal '21, we started wit

2350
01:00:59,607 --> 01:00:59,607
h

2351
01:00:59,607 --> 01:01:02,846
42.6 work orders a day, and now

2352
01:01:02,846 --> 01:01:03,147


2353
01:01:03,147 --> 01:01:05,147
we're at 51, we've gotten as

2354
01:01:05,147 --> 01:01:08,045
high as 58 per day.

2355
01:01:08,045 --> 01:01:11,918
so a lot of work going through

2356
01:01:11,918 --> 01:01:12,321


2357
01:01:12,321 --> 01:01:12,625
the department.

2358
01:01:12,625 --> 01:01:14,695
these ended up a little smaller

2359
01:01:14,695 --> 01:01:14,695


2360
01:01:14,695 --> 01:01:16,659
than I anticipated, but I wante

2361
01:01:16,659 --> 01:01:16,659
d

2362
01:01:16,659 --> 01:01:18,762
to kind of also reflect the

2363
01:01:18,762 --> 01:01:19,898
total cost of the work orders.

2364
01:01:19,898 --> 01:01:19,898


2365
01:01:19,898 --> 01:01:22,634
you'll see we have a steady

2366
01:01:22,634 --> 01:01:24,231
trend up, that's something to d

2367
01:01:24,231 --> 01:01:24,231
o

2368
01:01:24,231 --> 01:01:26,175
with -- we also have increasing

2369
01:01:26,175 --> 01:01:26,426


2370
01:01:26,426 --> 01:01:28,411
number of work orders, it also

2371
01:01:28,411 --> 01:01:28,537


2372
01:01:28,537 --> 01:01:30,074
has to do with the cost of

2373
01:01:30,074 --> 01:01:32,143
things going up, asphalt,

2374
01:01:32,143 --> 01:01:33,769
concrete, supplies, thing wez

2375
01:01:33,769 --> 01:01:33,769


2376
01:01:33,769 --> 01:01:34,720
need to do the actual work.

2377
01:01:34,720 --> 01:01:42,026
and then the last slide really

2378
01:01:42,026 --> 01:01:42,026


2379
01:01:42,026 --> 01:01:43,713
just speaks to more of the

2380
01:01:43,713 --> 01:01:44,857
service request and work order

2381
01:01:44,857 --> 01:01:45,218
s

2382
01:01:45,218 --> 01:01:46,921
and where we are in terms of

2383
01:01:46,921 --> 01:01:48,761
efficiency, what I call

2384
01:01:48,761 --> 01:01:50,131
efficiency, how many are we

2385
01:01:50,131 --> 01:01:53,759
closing through the fiscal year

2386
01:01:53,759 --> 01:01:53,759
.

2387
01:01:53,759 --> 01:01:56,471
so we're going from -- the blu

2388
01:01:56,471 --> 01:01:56,661
e

2389
01:01:56,661 --> 01:01:58,230
line is service requests, and

2390
01:01:58,230 --> 01:01:58,230


2391
01:01:58,230 --> 01:01:59,269
how many we're closing, but you

2392
01:01:59,269 --> 01:01:59,407


2393
01:01:59,407 --> 01:02:01,493
can see, if you remember, the

2394
01:02:01,493 --> 01:02:01,493


2395
01:02:01,493 --> 01:02:02,749
numbers were going up a lot for

2396
01:02:02,749 --> 01:02:02,868


2397
01:02:02,868 --> 01:02:04,671
service requests, we were

2398
01:02:04,671 --> 01:02:05,771
averaging 76 per day right now,

2399
01:02:05,771 --> 01:02:06,210


2400
01:02:06,210 --> 01:02:08,180
you can see our efficiency is

2401
01:02:08,180 --> 01:02:08,180


2402
01:02:08,180 --> 01:02:09,441
kind of decreased a little bit.

2403
01:02:09,441 --> 01:02:09,441


2404
01:02:09,441 --> 01:02:11,539
because our staff is the same

2405
01:02:11,539 --> 01:02:11,539


2406
01:02:11,539 --> 01:02:12,842
number, so it's harder to get to  ever

2407
01:02:12,842 --> 01:02:12,842
everybody.

2408
01:02:12,842 --> 01:02:13,387
as quickly.

2409
01:02:13,387 --> 01:02:26,291
as we go through, as the

2410
01:02:26,291 --> 01:02:27,249
division manager goes through,

2411
01:02:27,249 --> 01:02:27,762


2412
01:02:27,762 --> 01:02:28,667
there are individual groups and

2413
01:02:28,667 --> 01:02:29,160


2414
01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:31,667
teams and what they're doing,

2415
01:02:31,667 --> 01:02:31,667


2416
01:02:31,667 --> 01:02:32,667
they'll be touching on the

2417
01:02:32,667 --> 01:02:34,067
strategic goals as we go along

2418
01:02:34,067 --> 01:02:34,445


2419
01:02:34,445 --> 01:02:34,764
through there.

2420
01:02:34,764 --> 01:02:37,543
and I'm going to turn it over,

2421
01:02:37,543 --> 01:02:38,013


2422
01:02:38,013 --> 01:02:41,064
first to garrett kaufmann our

2423
01:02:41,064 --> 01:02:41,064


2424
01:02:41,064 --> 01:02:41,345
facilities manager.

2425
01:02:41,345 --> 01:02:46,059
>> mayor: welcome.

2426
01:02:46,059 --> 01:02:47,343
>> good morning.

2427
01:02:47,343 --> 01:02:50,851
I'm gary kaufmann, the

2428
01:02:50,851 --> 01:02:52,616
facilities manager, and

2429
01:02:52,616 --> 01:02:53,743
facilities division of public

2430
01:02:53,743 --> 01:02:53,743


2431
01:02:53,743 --> 01:02:55,331
works, I'm here to give you a

2432
01:02:55,331 --> 01:02:55,331


2433
01:02:55,331 --> 01:02:56,617
brief overview of what we're

2434
01:02:56,617 --> 01:02:57,971
doing in the facilities

2435
01:02:57,971 --> 01:02:57,971
division.

2436
01:02:57,971 --> 01:03:01,897
first of all, I want to give y

2437
01:03:01,897 --> 01:03:01,897
ou

2438
01:03:01,897 --> 01:03:04,396
guys a rundown of what our

2439
01:03:04,396 --> 01:03:06,334
department looks like, we have

2440
01:03:06,334 --> 01:03:06,670


2441
01:03:06,670 --> 01:03:08,711
24 1/2 fte in our department,

2442
01:03:08,711 --> 01:03:08,711


2443
01:03:08,711 --> 01:03:09,036
including myself.

2444
01:03:09,036 --> 01:03:11,809
I am the manager, we have an

2445
01:03:11,809 --> 01:03:13,171
assistant manager, we have two

2446
01:03:13,171 --> 01:03:14,075


2447
01:03:14,075 --> 01:03:16,612
supervisors, we have seven

2448
01:03:16,612 --> 01:03:18,587
mechanical staff covers,

2449
01:03:18,587 --> 01:03:19,377
mechanical electrical plumbing,

2450
01:03:19,377 --> 01:03:20,065


2451
01:03:20,065 --> 01:03:26,721
which is hvac and firearms, we

2452
01:03:26,721 --> 01:03:26,853


2453
01:03:26,853 --> 01:03:28,155
have three structural personnel.

2454
01:03:28,155 --> 01:03:28,155


2455
01:03:28,155 --> 01:03:30,915
it's a very lean subdivision o

2456
01:03:30,915 --> 01:03:31,031
f

2457
01:03:31,031 --> 01:03:31,352
our department.

2458
01:03:31,352 --> 01:03:34,035
we have two carpenters and one

2459
01:03:34,035 --> 01:03:34,697


2460
01:03:34,697 --> 01:03:34,697
painter.

2461
01:03:34,697 --> 01:03:37,397
we have nine custodial staff I

2462
01:03:37,397 --> 01:03:37,525
n

2463
01:03:37,525 --> 01:03:39,432
our department, and one capital

2464
01:03:39,432 --> 01:03:39,794


2465
01:03:39,794 --> 01:03:42,069
projects manager, and then the

2466
01:03:42,069 --> 01:03:42,383


2467
01:03:42,383 --> 01:03:44,333
second part time -- temporary

2468
01:03:44,333 --> 01:03:44,333


2469
01:03:44,333 --> 01:03:44,907
part time capital projects

2470
01:03:44,907 --> 01:03:44,907
manager.

2471
01:03:44,907 --> 01:03:55,051
our department is broken down

2472
01:03:55,051 --> 01:03:55,051


2473
01:03:55,051 --> 01:03:56,390
into several different

2474
01:03:56,390 --> 01:03:58,287
categories, operations and

2475
01:03:58,287 --> 01:04:00,889
maintenance, which basically

2476
01:04:00,889 --> 01:04:02,495
covers a wide variety of

2477
01:04:02,495 --> 01:04:06,257
maintenance on roofs and walls,

2478
01:04:06,257 --> 01:04:07,089


2479
01:04:07,089 --> 01:04:10,195
operations, that's for

2480
01:04:10,195 --> 01:04:14,099
structural, and we do

2481
01:04:14,099 --> 01:04:15,061
mechanical, we do a lot with

2482
01:04:15,061 --> 01:04:15,061
firearms.

2483
01:04:15,061 --> 01:04:18,371
operations and maintenance and

2484
01:04:18,371 --> 01:04:18,982


2485
01:04:18,982 --> 01:04:20,849
custodial, we do custodial wor

2486
01:04:20,849 --> 01:04:21,037
k

2487
01:04:21,037 --> 01:04:22,243
for a few of the buildings in

2488
01:04:22,243 --> 01:04:22,243


2489
01:04:22,243 --> 01:04:24,473
the city's portfolio, we do not

2490
01:04:24,473 --> 01:04:24,639


2491
01:04:24,639 --> 01:04:26,079
take all of them, we take care

2492
01:04:26,079 --> 01:04:26,309


2493
01:04:26,309 --> 01:04:28,351
of all the major ones, I think

2494
01:04:28,351 --> 01:04:29,616
I

2495
01:04:29,616 --> 01:04:33,257
shared this with you guys

2496
01:04:33,257 --> 01:04:33,257
previously.

2497
01:04:33,257 --> 01:04:35,583
the police department, the fir

2498
01:04:35,583 --> 01:04:35,672
e

2499
01:04:35,672 --> 01:04:37,395
department, parks takes care o

2500
01:04:37,395 --> 01:04:37,789
f

2501
01:04:37,789 --> 01:04:40,527
most of themselves.

2502
01:04:40,527 --> 01:04:43,201
operations and maintenance

2503
01:04:43,201 --> 01:04:44,631
administration, we take care,

2504
01:04:44,631 --> 01:04:44,631


2505
01:04:44,631 --> 01:04:47,935
make sure that we watch after

2506
01:04:47,935 --> 01:04:47,935


2507
01:04:47,935 --> 01:04:50,239
our budget and prepare for

2508
01:04:50,239 --> 01:04:52,507
purchase orders, do a lot of

2509
01:04:52,507 --> 01:04:53,473
administrative work that way.

2510
01:04:53,473 --> 01:04:56,681
capital preservation, do a lot

2511
01:04:56,681 --> 01:04:56,817


2512
01:04:56,817 --> 01:04:58,347
of small projects for

2513
01:04:58,347 --> 01:05:00,483
replacement of structural

2514
01:05:00,483 --> 01:05:00,483
components.

2515
01:05:00,483 --> 01:05:03,549
replacing doors, rollout doors,

2516
01:05:03,549 --> 01:05:04,413


2517
01:05:04,413 --> 01:05:04,625
fire departments.

2518
01:05:04,625 --> 01:05:07,987
hvac systems, we go a lot of

2519
01:05:07,987 --> 01:05:09,591
replacements, fire alarms, fir

2520
01:05:09,591 --> 01:05:09,921
e

2521
01:05:09,921 --> 01:05:11,393
alarm panels, different things

2522
01:05:11,393 --> 01:05:11,634


2523
01:05:11,634 --> 01:05:11,957
like that.

2524
01:05:11,957 --> 01:05:15,223
I'll say we do facilities

2525
01:05:15,223 --> 01:05:15,741
restoration and expansion.

2526
01:05:15,741 --> 01:05:19,171
we do some remodeling work.

2527
01:05:19,171 --> 01:05:21,559
we did the lobby out here with

2528
01:05:21,559 --> 01:05:21,559


2529
01:05:21,559 --> 01:05:23,305
the security improvements, stu

2530
01:05:23,305 --> 01:05:23,305
ff

2531
01:05:23,305 --> 01:05:24,440
like that.

2532
01:05:24,440 --> 01:05:27,265
we do large projects, involve in

2533
01:05:27,265 --> 01:05:27,265


2534
01:05:27,265 --> 01:05:30,312
the new construction of fire

2535
01:05:30,312 --> 01:05:32,145
station number three, number 9

2536
01:05:32,145 --> 01:05:32,375


2537
01:05:32,375 --> 01:05:34,053
and the eoc, all the projects

2538
01:05:34,053 --> 01:05:34,053


2539
01:05:34,053 --> 01:05:35,287
that falls on our department t

2540
01:05:35,287 --> 01:05:35,330
o

2541
01:05:35,330 --> 01:05:35,853
take care of those things.

2542
01:05:35,853 --> 01:05:46,659
>> as far as our portfolio of

2543
01:05:46,659 --> 01:05:46,659


2544
01:05:46,659 --> 01:05:48,597
buildings, we eliminated some

2545
01:05:48,597 --> 01:05:48,597


2546
01:05:48,597 --> 01:05:50,593
buildings, touch on that you I

2547
01:05:50,593 --> 01:05:50,639
n

2548
01:05:50,639 --> 01:05:51,099
a minute.

2549
01:05:51,099 --> 01:06:04,213
we have greater than 135

2550
01:06:04,213 --> 01:06:05,713
buildings, we have over 200,00

2551
01:06:05,713 --> 01:06:06,343
0

2552
01:06:06,343 --> 01:06:07,475
square feet of buildings that

2553
01:06:07,475 --> 01:06:07,475


2554
01:06:07,475 --> 01:06:09,885
are older than 50 years old, w

2555
01:06:09,885 --> 01:06:10,010
e

2556
01:06:10,010 --> 01:06:12,121
have a lot of very old

2557
01:06:12,121 --> 01:06:13,821
buildings, and a lot of old

2558
01:06:13,821 --> 01:06:13,821
equipment.

2559
01:06:13,821 --> 01:06:16,735
so our staff stays quite busy

2560
01:06:16,735 --> 01:06:16,735


2561
01:06:16,735 --> 01:06:18,323
trying to keep up with it.

2562
01:06:18,323 --> 01:06:30,537
this is the list of buildings.

2563
01:06:30,537 --> 01:06:30,537


2564
01:06:30,537 --> 01:06:33,681
we reduced it last year, we hav

2565
01:06:33,681 --> 01:06:33,681
e

2566
01:06:33,681 --> 01:06:36,713
taken away the boltin building

2567
01:06:36,713 --> 01:06:36,973


2568
01:06:36,973 --> 01:06:41,949
in the northeast complex.

2569
01:06:41,949 --> 01:06:43,981
that should help our department

2570
01:06:43,981 --> 01:06:43,981


2571
01:06:43,981 --> 01:06:45,625
get a little more efficient.

2572
01:06:45,625 --> 01:06:48,457
we have quite a bit to do with

2573
01:06:48,457 --> 01:06:48,583


2574
01:06:48,583 --> 01:06:51,231
these buildings, keeping up wi

2575
01:06:51,231 --> 01:06:51,231
th

2576
01:06:51,231 --> 01:06:51,735
the maintenance on them.

2577
01:06:51,735 --> 01:06:55,647
facilities capital projects, o

2578
01:06:55,647 --> 01:06:56,093
n

2579
01:06:56,093 --> 01:06:58,323
the left we have 21 projects

2580
01:06:58,323 --> 01:07:00,131
that our staff is currently

2581
01:07:00,131 --> 01:07:02,543
working on, and I'll break tho

2582
01:07:02,543 --> 01:07:02,543
se

2583
01:07:02,543 --> 01:07:04,131
down a little more in a minute

2584
01:07:04,131 --> 01:07:04,131
.

2585
01:07:04,131 --> 01:07:06,471
those are small projects, but

2586
01:07:06,471 --> 01:07:06,471


2587
01:07:06,471 --> 01:07:07,707
are very important, they inclu

2588
01:07:07,707 --> 01:07:07,707
de

2589
01:07:07,707 --> 01:07:10,673
things like hvac systems, fire

2590
01:07:10,673 --> 01:07:10,977


2591
01:07:10,977 --> 01:07:12,475
alarm replacements.

2592
01:07:12,475 --> 01:07:15,509
this building specifically is

2593
01:07:15,509 --> 01:07:15,509


2594
01:07:15,509 --> 01:07:16,805
getting two new chillers.

2595
01:07:16,805 --> 01:07:18,425
we're also working in the next

2596
01:07:18,425 --> 01:07:18,615


2597
01:07:18,615 --> 01:07:20,453
couple weeks to start replacing

2598
01:07:20,453 --> 01:07:20,691


2599
01:07:20,691 --> 01:07:22,325
the fire alarm, so we're reall

2600
01:07:22,325 --> 01:07:22,718
y

2601
01:07:22,718 --> 01:07:23,129
excited about that.

2602
01:07:23,129 --> 01:07:25,825
>> that will be fun.

2603
01:07:25,825 --> 01:07:28,321
>> let's hope not, let's hope

2604
01:07:28,321 --> 01:07:28,321
we

2605
01:07:28,321 --> 01:07:29,659
can keep that uneventful.

2606
01:07:29,659 --> 01:07:32,478
>> on the right, we have the

2607
01:07:32,478 --> 01:07:34,267
large projects shown again, the

2608
01:07:34,267 --> 01:07:34,563


2609
01:07:34,563 --> 01:07:38,399
gpd property and evidence

2610
01:07:38,399 --> 01:07:40,277
building, public works,

2611
01:07:40,277 --> 01:07:43,847
safety -- southwest safety

2612
01:07:43,847 --> 01:07:45,815
annex, and hurricane hardening

2613
01:07:45,815 --> 01:07:46,477


2614
01:07:46,477 --> 01:07:48,049
for the hurricane works comple

2615
01:07:48,049 --> 01:07:48,049
x.

2616
01:07:48,049 --> 01:07:50,455
of the capital preservation

2617
01:07:50,455 --> 01:07:51,479
projects that were on the bigge

2618
01:07:51,479 --> 01:07:51,479
r

2619
01:07:51,479 --> 01:07:52,657
list on the page prior.

2620
01:07:52,657 --> 01:07:54,719
six of those currently are

2621
01:07:54,719 --> 01:07:54,719
completed.

2622
01:07:54,719 --> 01:07:58,155
300 in construction, we have 1

2623
01:07:58,155 --> 01:07:58,323
0

2624
01:07:58,323 --> 01:08:00,023
with equipment, including the

2625
01:08:00,023 --> 01:08:00,023


2626
01:08:00,023 --> 01:08:01,843
chillers, we're hoping to get

2627
01:08:01,843 --> 01:08:01,843


2628
01:08:01,843 --> 01:08:03,127
those shipped to us late april,

2629
01:08:03,127 --> 01:08:03,489


2630
01:08:03,489 --> 01:08:05,077
so we should be starting work o

2631
01:08:05,077 --> 01:08:05,077
n

2632
01:08:05,077 --> 01:08:07,541
that, hopefully may, june, we'

2633
01:08:07,541 --> 01:08:07,541
ll

2634
01:08:07,541 --> 01:08:08,275
have those completed.

2635
01:08:08,275 --> 01:08:10,744
once we get the equipment in,

2636
01:08:10,744 --> 01:08:10,744


2637
01:08:10,744 --> 01:08:11,357
that stuff should move really

2638
01:08:11,357 --> 01:08:11,357


2639
01:08:11,357 --> 01:08:11,357
fast.

2640
01:08:11,357 --> 01:08:14,845
we were finalizing, the time w

2641
01:08:14,845 --> 01:08:15,137
e

2642
01:08:15,137 --> 01:08:17,807
create the slide, we were

2643
01:08:17,807 --> 01:08:19,193
finalizing procurement on the

2644
01:08:19,193 --> 01:08:19,193


2645
01:08:19,193 --> 01:08:19,193
project.

2646
01:08:19,193 --> 01:08:21,047
one of them is a phased project

2647
01:08:21,047 --> 01:08:21,279


2648
01:08:21,279 --> 01:08:22,315
where we're doing some further

2649
01:08:22,315 --> 01:08:22,497


2650
01:08:22,497 --> 01:08:25,527
stud byes, we're waiting on

2651
01:08:25,527 --> 01:08:26,153
finalizing the report on that,

2652
01:08:26,153 --> 01:08:26,553


2653
01:08:26,553 --> 01:08:27,389
so we can continue on with that

2654
01:08:27,389 --> 01:08:27,389


2655
01:08:27,389 --> 01:08:27,389
process.

2656
01:08:27,389 --> 01:08:31,287
not included in that last slid

2657
01:08:31,287 --> 01:08:31,287
e,

2658
01:08:31,287 --> 01:08:33,591
we're also working on four

2659
01:08:33,591 --> 01:08:34,965
different roof projects, one o

2660
01:08:34,965 --> 01:08:35,095
f

2661
01:08:35,095 --> 01:08:36,665
them is completed, one of them

2662
01:08:36,665 --> 01:08:37,363


2663
01:08:37,363 --> 01:08:40,899
is completed today.

2664
01:08:40,899 --> 01:08:44,201
we were doing the flat roof

2665
01:08:44,201 --> 01:08:44,697
portion of that.

2666
01:08:44,697 --> 01:08:46,867
this week we're supposed to

2667
01:08:46,867 --> 01:08:48,809
start the td mcpherson roof.

2668
01:08:48,809 --> 01:08:51,519
we're waiting for the insulatio

2669
01:08:51,519 --> 01:08:51,519
n

2670
01:08:51,519 --> 01:08:54,189
to come n that's being torn off

2671
01:08:54,189 --> 01:08:54,415


2672
01:08:54,415 --> 01:08:57,651
and getting ready to get

2673
01:08:57,651 --> 01:08:57,651
started.

2674
01:08:57,651 --> 01:08:57,651
.

2675
01:08:57,651 --> 01:09:01,009
that was not on the list, but I

2676
01:09:01,009 --> 01:09:01,053


2677
01:09:01,053 --> 01:09:02,855
just want to point that out, w

2678
01:09:02,855 --> 01:09:02,899
e

2679
01:09:02,899 --> 01:09:03,403
have quite a bit going on.

2680
01:09:03,403 --> 01:09:09,695
street stations --

2681
01:09:09,695 --> 01:09:10,791
>> mayor: commissioner chestnut

2682
01:09:10,791 --> 01:09:10,791
?

2683
01:09:10,791 --> 01:09:11,365
>> yes.

2684
01:09:11,365 --> 01:09:14,261
in replacing the roof, are we

2685
01:09:14,261 --> 01:09:14,261


2686
01:09:14,261 --> 01:09:15,863
using our own team or are you

2687
01:09:15,863 --> 01:09:15,863


2688
01:09:15,863 --> 01:09:16,501
contracting that out?

2689
01:09:16,501 --> 01:09:18,441
>> we're contracting it out,

2690
01:09:18,441 --> 01:09:23,553
these are relatively small

2691
01:09:23,553 --> 01:09:25,253
roofs, you probably haven't see

2692
01:09:25,253 --> 01:09:25,253
n

2693
01:09:25,253 --> 01:09:27,723
these, they fall within our

2694
01:09:27,723 --> 01:09:28,015
purchasing guidelines.

2695
01:09:28,015 --> 01:09:32,463
they're small roofs.

2696
01:09:32,463 --> 01:09:35,312
they fall under our agreement t

2697
01:09:35,312 --> 01:09:35,312
o

2698
01:09:35,312 --> 01:09:36,459
make things happen quickly.

2699
01:09:36,459 --> 01:09:38,597
street stations and strong

2700
01:09:38,597 --> 01:09:40,699
foundations, the gpd property

2701
01:09:40,699 --> 01:09:43,723
business building, we should s

2702
01:09:43,723 --> 01:09:43,723
ee

2703
01:09:43,723 --> 01:09:45,593
the walls of the old building

2704
01:09:45,593 --> 01:09:45,593


2705
01:09:45,593 --> 01:09:47,429
start falling down.

2706
01:09:47,429 --> 01:09:49,909
construction should start

2707
01:09:49,909 --> 01:09:51,235
beginning -- it should be in

2708
01:09:51,235 --> 01:09:55,179
may, actually, for the gfr

2709
01:09:55,179 --> 01:09:57,683
administration, the eoc parking

2710
01:09:57,683 --> 01:09:58,487


2711
01:09:58,487 --> 01:10:01,283
lot, the fire station number 9,

2712
01:10:01,283 --> 01:10:01,521


2713
01:10:01,521 --> 01:10:03,619
number 3, we should start site

2714
01:10:03,619 --> 01:10:04,293


2715
01:10:04,293 --> 01:10:05,447
work on that early in may.

2716
01:10:05,447 --> 01:10:08,127
public works hardening, we have

2717
01:10:08,127 --> 01:10:08,349


2718
01:10:08,349 --> 01:10:09,628
design completed, and that

2719
01:10:09,628 --> 01:10:11,326
project is pretty much on hold

2720
01:10:11,326 --> 01:10:11,454


2721
01:10:11,454 --> 01:10:14,192
at the moment, but we are

2722
01:10:14,192 --> 01:10:16,940
anxious to get that one going

2723
01:10:16,940 --> 01:10:16,940


2724
01:10:16,940 --> 01:10:16,940
to.

2725
01:10:16,940 --> 01:10:20,278
kpi's, primarily on kpi's, we

2726
01:10:20,278 --> 01:10:20,278


2727
01:10:20,278 --> 01:10:22,072
are looking at how many work

2728
01:10:22,072 --> 01:10:23,606
orders we received, and how fas

2729
01:10:23,606 --> 01:10:23,606
t

2730
01:10:23,606 --> 01:10:26,103
we can get them done, our

2731
01:10:26,103 --> 01:10:27,334
efficiency in getting them done

2732
01:10:27,334 --> 01:10:27,334
.

2733
01:10:27,334 --> 01:10:30,672
you see in 25, we had almost

2734
01:10:30,672 --> 01:10:30,672
5600.

2735
01:10:30,672 --> 01:10:33,316
and we set a goal for 55 00 thi

2736
01:10:33,316 --> 01:10:33,316
s

2737
01:10:33,316 --> 01:10:35,816
year, for a total number of wor

2738
01:10:35,816 --> 01:10:35,816
k

2739
01:10:35,816 --> 01:10:37,552
orders, right now at the end o

2740
01:10:37,552 --> 01:10:39,324
f

2741
01:10:39,324 --> 01:10:41,395
fiscal year 56 quarter one,

2742
01:10:41,395 --> 01:10:43,191
we're at 11 00, we're on track

2743
01:10:43,191 --> 01:10:43,518


2744
01:10:43,518 --> 01:10:44,947
with what our goals are, and a

2745
01:10:44,947 --> 01:10:45,787
s

2746
01:10:45,787 --> 01:10:48,460
far as the actual numbers

2747
01:10:48,460 --> 01:10:49,564
completed, we're probably just

2748
01:10:49,564 --> 01:10:49,833
a

2749
01:10:49,833 --> 01:10:52,704
little bit behind on that our

2750
01:10:52,704 --> 01:10:52,704


2751
01:10:52,704 --> 01:10:54,264
completion rates, you see on

2752
01:10:54,264 --> 01:10:58,538
this slide are at 89.5% at the

2753
01:10:58,538 --> 01:10:59,039


2754
01:10:59,039 --> 01:11:01,050
end of our first quarter, and

2755
01:11:01,050 --> 01:11:01,050


2756
01:11:01,050 --> 01:11:03,956
our goal was 95% at the end of

2757
01:11:03,956 --> 01:11:03,956


2758
01:11:03,956 --> 01:11:04,210
the year.

2759
01:11:04,210 --> 01:11:06,508
we should be a little better off

2760
01:11:06,508 --> 01:11:06,508


2761
01:11:06,508 --> 01:11:08,196
on that, a lot of the

2762
01:11:08,196 --> 01:11:12,164
incompletion rates have to do

2763
01:11:12,164 --> 01:11:12,164


2764
01:11:12,164 --> 01:11:17,562
with things like that.

2765
01:11:17,562 --> 01:11:20,288
average days of getting work

2766
01:11:20,288 --> 01:11:20,558
orders done.

2767
01:11:20,558 --> 01:11:21,926
this is something we're trying

2768
01:11:21,926 --> 01:11:22,098


2769
01:11:22,098 --> 01:11:23,596
to speed up in getting work

2770
01:11:23,596 --> 01:11:25,342
orders addressed, and get them

2771
01:11:25,342 --> 01:11:25,606


2772
01:11:25,606 --> 01:11:25,606
completedagain.

2773
01:11:25,606 --> 01:11:28,134
this has to do a lot with

2774
01:11:28,134 --> 01:11:29,371
waiting on parts and materials,

2775
01:11:29,371 --> 01:11:29,796


2776
01:11:29,796 --> 01:11:31,708
that kind of thing holds us up.

2777
01:11:31,708 --> 01:11:31,708


2778
01:11:31,708 --> 01:11:37,816
I think we've done a pretty goo

2779
01:11:37,816 --> 01:11:37,816
d

2780
01:11:37,816 --> 01:11:39,514
job of improving this, and you

2781
01:11:39,514 --> 01:11:39,746


2782
01:11:39,746 --> 01:11:41,680
can see that our goal was for

2783
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:41,680


2784
01:11:41,680 --> 01:11:47,050
ten days and we're at about 18

2785
01:11:47,050 --> 01:11:47,614


2786
01:11:47,614 --> 01:11:48,853
for the first quarter.

2787
01:11:48,853 --> 01:11:51,902
and we're moving in the right

2788
01:11:51,902 --> 01:11:51,902


2789
01:11:51,902 --> 01:11:53,528
direction, we're much better

2790
01:11:53,528 --> 01:11:54,804
than what our actuals were

2791
01:11:54,804 --> 01:11:55,832
showing last year, but we have

2792
01:11:55,832 --> 01:11:55,958
a

2793
01:11:55,958 --> 01:11:58,900
little bit of work to do on

2794
01:11:58,900 --> 01:11:58,900
that.

2795
01:11:58,900 --> 01:12:00,230
that completes everything that

2796
01:12:00,230 --> 01:12:00,397
I

2797
01:12:00,397 --> 01:12:02,002
have to share with you guys, I

2798
01:12:02,002 --> 01:12:02,396


2799
01:12:02,396 --> 01:12:04,146
want to hand this over to jared

2800
01:12:04,146 --> 01:12:04,314


2801
01:12:04,314 --> 01:12:05,940
lloyd, the operations manager

2802
01:12:05,940 --> 01:12:05,940


2803
01:12:05,940 --> 01:12:06,359
for public works.

2804
01:12:06,359 --> 01:12:07,003
>> mayor: thank you.

2805
01:12:07,003 --> 01:12:07,003
welcome.

2806
01:12:07,003 --> 01:12:08,148
>> thank you.

2807
01:12:08,148 --> 01:12:12,242
good morning mr. Mayor,

2808
01:12:12,242 --> 01:12:13,058
commissioners, jared lloyd,

2809
01:12:13,058 --> 01:12:13,339
operations manager.

2810
01:12:13,339 --> 01:12:18,068
with the operations division,

2811
01:12:18,068 --> 01:12:18,068


2812
01:12:18,068 --> 01:12:21,226
there's 7 of us on the

2813
01:12:21,226 --> 01:12:24,540
administrative team that runs

2814
01:12:24,540 --> 01:12:24,540


2815
01:12:24,540 --> 01:12:24,540
operations.

2816
01:12:24,540 --> 01:12:26,259
two of which are currently

2817
01:12:26,259 --> 01:12:27,598
vacant working on fixing that.

2818
01:12:27,598 --> 01:12:27,598


2819
01:12:27,598 --> 01:12:29,498
I would love to have a full tea

2820
01:12:29,498 --> 01:12:29,498
m

2821
01:12:29,498 --> 01:12:34,116
to assist.

2822
01:12:34,116 --> 01:12:35,846
in the operations team, there's

2823
01:12:35,846 --> 01:12:36,238


2824
01:12:36,238 --> 01:12:39,248
129fte's, we're currently

2825
01:12:39,248 --> 01:12:42,208
sitting at roughly 20 1/2%

2826
01:12:42,208 --> 01:12:43,730
vacancy, but in operations, I

2827
01:12:43,730 --> 01:12:43,730


2828
01:12:43,730 --> 01:12:45,446
know I've been up here a lot

2829
01:12:45,446 --> 01:12:48,910
about solid waste, but I also

2830
01:12:48,910 --> 01:12:48,910


2831
01:12:48,910 --> 01:12:50,124
oversee construction, drainage,

2832
01:12:50,124 --> 01:12:50,826


2833
01:12:50,826 --> 01:12:53,286
right-of-way,ing urban forestry

2834
01:12:53,286 --> 01:12:53,286
,

2835
01:12:53,286 --> 01:12:56,022
mosquito control as well as

2836
01:12:56,022 --> 01:12:57,647
solid waste, and a small engine

2837
01:12:57,647 --> 01:12:58,052


2838
01:12:58,052 --> 01:12:58,918
mechanic that we have at our

2839
01:12:58,918 --> 01:12:58,918
warehouse.

2840
01:12:58,918 --> 01:13:04,026
>> mayor: apology there, in

2841
01:13:04,026 --> 01:13:05,710
your -- maybe you'll address

2842
01:13:05,710 --> 01:13:08,536
this going-forward, of that

2843
01:13:08,536 --> 01:13:11,830
20.5%, is there a particular

2844
01:13:11,830 --> 01:13:12,808
department that's heavier with

2845
01:13:12,808 --> 01:13:12,938


2846
01:13:12,938 --> 01:13:13,307
vacancies than others.

2847
01:13:13,307 --> 01:13:17,309
>> no, not necessarily, it's a

2848
01:13:17,309 --> 01:13:17,828


2849
01:13:17,828 --> 01:13:22,625
lot of your workforce, grounds

2850
01:13:22,625 --> 01:13:23,418


2851
01:13:23,418 --> 01:13:25,414
workers, it's a high turnover

2852
01:13:25,414 --> 01:13:25,414


2853
01:13:25,414 --> 01:13:27,028
position, we're constantly

2854
01:13:27,028 --> 01:13:29,150
restocking employees in those

2855
01:13:29,150 --> 01:13:29,150


2856
01:13:29,150 --> 01:13:29,150
positions.

2857
01:13:29,150 --> 01:13:29,920
>> mayor: okay, thank you.

2858
01:13:29,920 --> 01:13:34,974
>> we'll start with our

2859
01:13:34,974 --> 01:13:35,326
construction section.

2860
01:13:35,326 --> 01:13:37,329
my slides are going to be a

2861
01:13:37,329 --> 01:13:38,372
little different than the

2862
01:13:38,372 --> 01:13:39,903
previous ones you've seen, on

2863
01:13:39,903 --> 01:13:39,903


2864
01:13:39,903 --> 01:13:41,930
the left, you're going to see

2865
01:13:41,930 --> 01:13:41,930


2866
01:13:41,930 --> 01:13:43,108
numbers, they're strictly for

2867
01:13:43,108 --> 01:13:43,108


2868
01:13:43,108 --> 01:13:43,862
quarter one of this year.

2869
01:13:43,862 --> 01:13:48,078
and then I'm providing a pictu

2870
01:13:48,078 --> 01:13:48,078
re

2871
01:13:48,078 --> 01:13:51,286
that I feel like best describes

2872
01:13:51,286 --> 01:13:52,080


2873
01:13:52,080 --> 01:13:53,122
the section I'm discussing.

2874
01:13:53,122 --> 01:13:54,957
and then I'm really not going t

2875
01:13:54,957 --> 01:13:54,957
o

2876
01:13:54,957 --> 01:13:56,520
speak to the numbers, I'm going

2877
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:56,658


2878
01:13:56,658 --> 01:13:58,482
to talk about the sections

2879
01:13:58,482 --> 01:13:58,482
themselves.

2880
01:13:58,482 --> 01:14:00,352
and then this picture, this is

2881
01:14:00,352 --> 01:14:01,254


2882
01:14:01,254 --> 01:14:04,070
really a great representation o

2883
01:14:04,070 --> 01:14:04,070
f

2884
01:14:04,070 --> 01:14:04,493
the construction team.

2885
01:14:04,493 --> 01:14:07,098
you have your sidewalks, you

2886
01:14:07,098 --> 01:14:08,858
have your curb inlets, your

2887
01:14:08,858 --> 01:14:11,062
curbs themselves, your roadways

2888
01:14:11,062 --> 01:14:11,062
,

2889
01:14:11,062 --> 01:14:13,554
your signs, your markings, all

2890
01:14:13,554 --> 01:14:13,769


2891
01:14:13,769 --> 01:14:17,671
of this is done by our

2892
01:14:17,671 --> 01:14:18,136
construction team.

2893
01:14:18,136 --> 01:14:21,012
so asphalt is one of the

2894
01:14:21,012 --> 01:14:22,504
subsections of construction,

2895
01:14:22,504 --> 01:14:23,900
it's a 12 person crew, they ar

2896
01:14:23,900 --> 01:14:23,992
e

2897
01:14:23,992 --> 01:14:26,184
in charge of all the potholes,

2898
01:14:26,184 --> 01:14:26,610


2899
01:14:26,610 --> 01:14:27,718
all of the full reconstruction

2900
01:14:27,718 --> 01:14:28,080


2901
01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:32,580
of roadways, that essentially

2902
01:14:32,580 --> 01:14:32,580


2903
01:14:32,580 --> 01:14:33,450
saves us money from contracting

2904
01:14:33,450 --> 01:14:33,680


2905
01:14:33,680 --> 01:14:39,526
it out, we do it in house.

2906
01:14:39,526 --> 01:14:44,010
and we've got our concrete

2907
01:14:44,010 --> 01:14:44,559
subsection which are responsible

2908
01:14:44,559 --> 01:14:44,559


2909
01:14:44,559 --> 01:14:48,006
for all the pedestrians

2910
01:14:48,006 --> 01:14:51,436
pathways, ada compliance for

2911
01:14:51,436 --> 01:14:52,774
ramps, sidewalks and curbs

2912
01:14:52,774 --> 01:14:53,096
themselves on the roadways.

2913
01:14:53,096 --> 01:15:00,711
the pavement preservation

2914
01:15:00,711 --> 01:15:03,150
program is done at the

2915
01:15:03,150 --> 01:15:04,518
administrative level, but we've

2916
01:15:04,518 --> 01:15:04,982


2917
01:15:04,982 --> 01:15:07,052
just recently introduced the d

2918
01:15:07,052 --> 01:15:07,052
ot

2919
01:15:07,052 --> 01:15:09,388
software, which uses the new sb

2920
01:15:09,388 --> 01:15:09,388
I

2921
01:15:09,388 --> 01:15:12,824
indexes to weight in and

2922
01:15:12,824 --> 01:15:18,634
prioritize the roadways with t

2923
01:15:18,634 --> 01:15:18,634
he

2924
01:15:18,634 --> 01:15:20,190
sbi in mind.

2925
01:15:20,190 --> 01:15:28,824
this is a picture putting down

2926
01:15:28,824 --> 01:15:28,964
a

2927
01:15:28,964 --> 01:15:30,908
binder on the roadway.

2928
01:15:30,908 --> 01:15:40,423
it's getting rolled in, two,

2929
01:15:40,423 --> 01:15:42,320
three weeks after this, they'll

2930
01:15:42,320 --> 01:15:42,622


2931
01:15:42,622 --> 01:15:44,830
top it with a micro surface, I

2932
01:15:44,830 --> 01:15:45,686
t

2933
01:15:45,686 --> 01:15:47,526
gives you a much loaninger lif

2934
01:15:47,526 --> 01:15:47,657
e

2935
01:15:47,657 --> 01:15:49,064
out of your roadways.

2936
01:15:49,064 --> 01:15:50,538
pavement preservation is

2937
01:15:50,538 --> 01:15:51,980
important to maintain our good

2938
01:15:51,980 --> 01:15:52,626


2939
01:15:52,626 --> 01:15:55,906
roadways so that we don't fail

2940
01:15:55,906 --> 01:15:56,134


2941
01:15:56,134 --> 01:15:57,670
and get to a point where we're

2942
01:15:57,670 --> 01:15:58,066


2943
01:15:58,066 --> 01:15:59,302
spending a bunch of money.

2944
01:15:59,302 --> 01:16:04,006
a lot cheaper to do it this wa

2945
01:16:04,006 --> 01:16:04,006
y.

2946
01:16:04,006 --> 01:16:06,615
our drainage section, we have a

2947
01:16:06,615 --> 01:16:06,615
n

2948
01:16:06,615 --> 01:16:09,646
open water course and closed

2949
01:16:09,646 --> 01:16:10,277
water course subsection.

2950
01:16:10,277 --> 01:16:12,486
the open water course is simpl

2951
01:16:12,486 --> 01:16:13,146
y

2952
01:16:13,146 --> 01:16:14,786
ditches, retention ponds,

2953
01:16:14,786 --> 01:16:15,721
anything that's open to the ai

2954
01:16:15,721 --> 01:16:15,721
r,

2955
01:16:15,721 --> 01:16:17,628
closed water course is going t

2956
01:16:17,628 --> 01:16:17,670
o

2957
01:16:17,670 --> 01:16:20,222
be all of your pipes, boxes,

2958
01:16:20,222 --> 01:16:25,262
stuff that's buried that you

2959
01:16:25,262 --> 01:16:25,854
ca't see.

2960
01:16:25,854 --> 01:16:29,936
so this is our open water

2961
01:16:29,936 --> 01:16:32,285
course, crew correcting a bridg

2962
01:16:32,285 --> 01:16:32,285
e

2963
01:16:32,285 --> 01:16:35,675
deficiency that was found by t

2964
01:16:35,675 --> 01:16:35,675
he

2965
01:16:35,675 --> 01:16:37,818
contractor that inspects our

2966
01:16:37,818 --> 01:16:37,818
bridges.

2967
01:16:37,818 --> 01:16:40,126
so we have to go in, divert

2968
01:16:40,126 --> 01:16:44,752
water, and come in and fix the   defi

2969
01:16:44,752 --> 01:16:51,230
deficiency so we can pass

2970
01:16:51,230 --> 01:16:51,230
inspection.

2971
01:16:51,230 --> 01:16:53,488
and then this is a great pictu

2972
01:16:53,488 --> 01:16:53,488
re

2973
01:16:53,488 --> 01:16:55,162
showing what the closed water

2974
01:16:55,162 --> 01:16:55,162


2975
01:16:55,162 --> 01:16:56,358
course team does, this is a

2976
01:16:56,358 --> 01:16:59,969
project, this is when we put I

2977
01:16:59,969 --> 01:17:00,328
n

2978
01:17:00,328 --> 01:17:03,068
the new northeast 9th avenue

2979
01:17:03,068 --> 01:17:03,068
roadway.

2980
01:17:03,068 --> 01:17:07,102
this pipe system was placed,

2981
01:17:07,102 --> 01:17:09,474
that's 8th avenue, so we built

2982
01:17:09,474 --> 01:17:09,944


2983
01:17:09,944 --> 01:17:11,642
9th just behind this, this is

2984
01:17:11,642 --> 01:17:11,642


2985
01:17:11,642 --> 01:17:13,007
exactly what they do, this is a

2986
01:17:13,007 --> 01:17:13,582


2987
01:17:13,582 --> 01:17:14,818
smaller team of about 5.

2988
01:17:14,818 --> 01:17:18,782
and they just come in, and

2989
01:17:18,782 --> 01:17:20,856
really have a ton of pipes.

2990
01:17:20,856 --> 01:17:23,324
miles and miles in pipes to

2991
01:17:23,324 --> 01:17:24,790
maintain, they do a great job.

2992
01:17:24,790 --> 01:17:24,790


2993
01:17:24,790 --> 01:17:25,378
very good at their jobs.

2994
01:17:25,378 --> 01:17:31,326
so we'll move on to our

2995
01:17:31,326 --> 01:17:32,272
right-of-way section, the

2996
01:17:32,272 --> 01:17:36,335
picture on the right, you see

2997
01:17:36,335 --> 01:17:36,335


2998
01:17:36,335 --> 01:17:39,273
this is the mad vac mini-that w

2999
01:17:39,273 --> 01:17:39,273
e

3000
01:17:39,273 --> 01:17:42,570
had to buy when we started

3001
01:17:42,570 --> 01:17:44,350
putting in the one way pavers,

3002
01:17:44,350 --> 01:17:45,342


3003
01:17:45,342 --> 01:17:46,810
it's been a phenomenal machine.

3004
01:17:46,810 --> 01:17:46,810


3005
01:17:46,810 --> 01:17:50,110
and then we've got our full

3006
01:17:50,110 --> 01:17:53,526
sized street sweepers that run

3007
01:17:53,526 --> 01:17:53,848


3008
01:17:53,848 --> 01:17:55,088
just curbed roadways.

3009
01:17:55,088 --> 01:17:57,757
so the only roadways that will

3010
01:17:57,757 --> 01:17:58,323


3011
01:17:58,323 --> 01:17:59,122
get swept are curbed.

3012
01:17:59,122 --> 01:18:01,816
a lot of people think the street

3013
01:18:01,816 --> 01:18:01,816


3014
01:18:01,816 --> 01:18:03,726
sweeper is here to clean the

3015
01:18:03,726 --> 01:18:05,394
roadways, and they do that.

3016
01:18:05,394 --> 01:18:07,036
the main purpose is to pull the

3017
01:18:07,036 --> 01:18:07,534


3018
01:18:07,534 --> 01:18:09,538
debris out of the roadway, so I

3019
01:18:09,538 --> 01:18:09,538
t

3020
01:18:09,538 --> 01:18:10,866
doesn't get flushed down into

3021
01:18:10,866 --> 01:18:10,866


3022
01:18:10,866 --> 01:18:13,140
the pipes and waterways, so it'

3023
01:18:13,140 --> 01:18:13,140
s

3024
01:18:13,140 --> 01:18:15,386
actually a water quality thing

3025
01:18:15,386 --> 01:18:15,638


3026
01:18:15,638 --> 01:18:19,372
more than it is a street

3027
01:18:19,372 --> 01:18:20,110
cleaning thing.

3028
01:18:20,110 --> 01:18:21,646
>> I'll pause you there and pas

3029
01:18:21,646 --> 01:18:21,646
s

3030
01:18:21,646 --> 01:18:23,377
on something that we heard in a

3031
01:18:23,377 --> 01:18:23,562


3032
01:18:23,562 --> 01:18:24,550
presentation many years ago,

3033
01:18:24,550 --> 01:18:26,416
that was an eye opener for me.

3034
01:18:26,416 --> 01:18:26,416


3035
01:18:26,416 --> 01:18:29,562
that if you -- if your street I

3036
01:18:29,562 --> 01:18:29,562
s

3037
01:18:29,562 --> 01:18:31,358
a curb and gutter street, that

3038
01:18:31,358 --> 01:18:31,492


3039
01:18:31,492 --> 01:18:33,991
is -- if you have a curb, that'

3040
01:18:33,991 --> 01:18:33,991
s

3041
01:18:33,991 --> 01:18:36,092
part of our storm water

3042
01:18:36,092 --> 01:18:36,494
management system.

3043
01:18:36,494 --> 01:18:38,258
not every street is part of our

3044
01:18:38,258 --> 01:18:38,538


3045
01:18:38,538 --> 01:18:39,520
storm water management system,

3046
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:39,896


3047
01:18:39,896 --> 01:18:40,892
if you have curb and gutter,

3048
01:18:40,892 --> 01:18:41,262
that's part of it.

3049
01:18:41,262 --> 01:18:48,340
>> it's very important.

3050
01:18:48,340 --> 01:18:52,206
and then the maintenance and

3051
01:18:52,206 --> 01:18:53,712
mowing section of our

3052
01:18:53,712 --> 01:18:54,580
right-of-way team is extremely

3053
01:18:54,580 --> 01:18:56,118


3054
01:18:56,118 --> 01:18:57,416
important, they handle the

3055
01:18:57,416 --> 01:18:59,356
medians, keeping the medians

3056
01:18:59,356 --> 01:18:59,783
nice and clean.

3057
01:18:59,783 --> 01:19:01,485
they make sure our sidewalks a

3058
01:19:01,485 --> 01:19:01,485
re

3059
01:19:01,485 --> 01:19:04,658
edged, cut back to keep our

3060
01:19:04,658 --> 01:19:05,496
clearances for the pedestrians

3061
01:19:05,496 --> 01:19:05,894


3062
01:19:05,894 --> 01:19:06,654
walking the sidewalks.

3063
01:19:06,654 --> 01:19:09,862
make sure we got our 7 foot

3064
01:19:09,862 --> 01:19:11,390
height on everything, so peopl

3065
01:19:11,390 --> 01:19:11,554
e

3066
01:19:11,554 --> 01:19:12,672
aren't bumping heads walking

3067
01:19:12,672 --> 01:19:16,234
down sidewalks.

3068
01:19:16,234 --> 01:19:21,174
this is the downtown detail

3069
01:19:21,174 --> 01:19:23,023
crew, we have the mad vac in t

3070
01:19:23,023 --> 01:19:23,023
he

3071
01:19:23,023 --> 01:19:25,110
streeterry area, they spend 10

3072
01:19:25,110 --> 01:19:25,110
0%

3073
01:19:25,110 --> 01:19:27,342
of their time in core downtown

3074
01:19:27,342 --> 01:19:28,051
,

3075
01:19:28,051 --> 01:19:29,498
really cleaning, making sure

3076
01:19:29,498 --> 01:19:31,778
they're keeping up with

3077
01:19:31,778 --> 01:19:33,498
graffiti, and garbage, any

3078
01:19:33,498 --> 01:19:36,592
spills, they're fully dedicated

3079
01:19:36,592 --> 01:19:36,770


3080
01:19:36,770 --> 01:19:37,664
to downtown, they do a great

3081
01:19:37,664 --> 01:19:37,664
job.

3082
01:19:37,664 --> 01:19:45,267
we'll move into solid waste.

3083
01:19:45,267 --> 01:19:47,646
I want to touch on a couple of

3084
01:19:47,646 --> 01:19:47,646


3085
01:19:47,646 --> 01:19:49,134
the key strategic goals before

3086
01:19:49,134 --> 01:19:49,378
I

3087
01:19:49,378 --> 01:19:50,236
get into it.

3088
01:19:50,236 --> 01:19:53,199
we're currently in the final

3089
01:19:53,199 --> 01:19:58,479
phases of our I.t. Negotiations

3090
01:19:58,479 --> 01:19:58,479
.

3091
01:19:58,479 --> 01:20:01,212
and we're in the scoring phase

3092
01:20:01,212 --> 01:20:01,442


3093
01:20:01,442 --> 01:20:02,782
for the food waste rfp.

3094
01:20:02,782 --> 01:20:05,814
I can't get too much into it,

3095
01:20:05,814 --> 01:20:05,814


3096
01:20:05,814 --> 01:20:08,454
just wanted to give you an

3097
01:20:08,454 --> 01:20:09,418
update on where we're at with

3098
01:20:09,418 --> 01:20:09,418


3099
01:20:09,418 --> 01:20:09,418
it.

3100
01:20:09,418 --> 01:20:11,192
we'll go ahead and start with

3101
01:20:11,192 --> 01:20:11,192


3102
01:20:11,192 --> 01:20:12,490
solid waste, as you can see,

3103
01:20:12,490 --> 01:20:18,296
this is an issue here with mov

3104
01:20:18,296 --> 01:20:18,594
e

3105
01:20:18,594 --> 01:20:19,933
n someone didn't plan for the

3106
01:20:19,933 --> 01:20:19,933


3107
01:20:19,933 --> 01:20:19,933
boxes.

3108
01:20:19,933 --> 01:20:22,434
our inspector team is a team o

3109
01:20:22,434 --> 01:20:22,762
f

3110
01:20:22,762 --> 01:20:22,762
four.

3111
01:20:22,762 --> 01:20:27,200
their entire job is to go out

3112
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:27,200


3113
01:20:27,200 --> 01:20:29,938
and enforce our ordinances.

3114
01:20:29,938 --> 01:20:32,116
and they do a phenomenal job.

3115
01:20:32,116 --> 01:20:35,044
this one will I point at the

3116
01:20:35,044 --> 01:20:35,044
numbers.

3117
01:20:35,044 --> 01:20:36,416
this is impressive.

3118
01:20:36,416 --> 01:20:38,214
just in the first quarter of

3119
01:20:38,214 --> 01:20:40,484
this year, they've made contact

3120
01:20:40,484 --> 01:20:40,781


3121
01:20:40,781 --> 01:20:44,383
with 2700 residential and

3122
01:20:44,383 --> 01:20:44,865
commercial properties.

3123
01:20:44,865 --> 01:20:48,895
out of all of those only 4 wou

3124
01:20:48,895 --> 01:20:48,895
nd

3125
01:20:48,895 --> 01:20:51,396
up with a civil citation, it

3126
01:20:51,396 --> 01:20:53,432
means they're doing a very goo

3127
01:20:53,432 --> 01:20:53,566
d

3128
01:20:53,566 --> 01:20:56,128
job educating people on the

3129
01:20:56,128 --> 01:20:57,136
ordinance, what's required and

3130
01:20:57,136 --> 01:20:57,318


3131
01:20:57,318 --> 01:20:58,598
the residential and commercial

3132
01:20:58,598 --> 01:20:58,902


3133
01:20:58,902 --> 01:21:02,504
properties are following them.

3134
01:21:02,504 --> 01:21:02,504


3135
01:21:02,504 --> 01:21:04,186
our litter crew are up and dow

3136
01:21:04,186 --> 01:21:04,314
n

3137
01:21:04,314 --> 01:21:07,208
the sides of the roadways,

3138
01:21:07,208 --> 01:21:09,412
cleaning up encampments that

3139
01:21:09,412 --> 01:21:11,509
have been abandoned, they're

3140
01:21:11,509 --> 01:21:14,654
constantly out running, picking

3141
01:21:14,654 --> 01:21:14,850


3142
01:21:14,850 --> 01:21:16,784
garbage cans up, a very

3143
01:21:16,784 --> 01:21:18,226
important part to keeping all of

3144
01:21:18,226 --> 01:21:18,226


3145
01:21:18,226 --> 01:21:22,840
the city of gainesville clean

3146
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:22,840


3147
01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:24,496
our surplus department, this, I

3148
01:21:24,496 --> 01:21:24,760


3149
01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:26,835
know this -- anyone who's a

3150
01:21:26,835 --> 01:21:28,360
fleet freak, this picture may

3151
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:28,360


3152
01:21:28,360 --> 01:21:29,633
freak you out, but essentially

3153
01:21:29,633 --> 01:21:30,831


3154
01:21:30,831 --> 01:21:33,541
this is the storage building f

3155
01:21:33,541 --> 01:21:33,541
or

3156
01:21:33,541 --> 01:21:36,080
all of the city's no longer

3157
01:21:36,080 --> 01:21:36,341
needed items.

3158
01:21:36,341 --> 01:21:41,308
so what we do, we turn the

3159
01:21:41,308 --> 01:21:45,388
city's trash into treasure with

3160
01:21:45,388 --> 01:21:46,914


3161
01:21:46,914 --> 01:21:46,914
surplus.

3162
01:21:46,914 --> 01:21:49,472
they made, I believe, right at

3163
01:21:49,472 --> 01:21:50,423
a

3164
01:21:50,423 --> 01:21:52,592
quarter million dollars last

3165
01:21:52,592 --> 01:21:54,363
year out of disposed items and

3166
01:21:54,363 --> 01:21:54,588


3167
01:21:54,588 --> 01:21:55,934
kept them out of the land year

3168
01:21:55,934 --> 01:21:55,934
.

3169
01:21:55,934 --> 01:21:58,931
quarter one, they turned $57,0

3170
01:21:58,931 --> 01:21:58,931
00

3171
01:21:58,931 --> 01:22:01,267
out of unwanted city items.

3172
01:22:01,267 --> 01:22:02,672
they're very good at what they

3173
01:22:02,672 --> 01:22:03,162


3174
01:22:03,162 --> 01:22:03,940
do, very passionate.

3175
01:22:03,940 --> 01:22:05,740
a lot of times my construction

3176
01:22:05,740 --> 01:22:06,784


3177
01:22:06,784 --> 01:22:09,244
crews will take a bent form fro

3178
01:22:09,244 --> 01:22:09,244
m

3179
01:22:09,244 --> 01:22:11,252
a concrete team, throw it in th

3180
01:22:11,252 --> 01:22:11,252
e

3181
01:22:11,252 --> 01:22:13,374
dumpster, recover it and sell,

3182
01:22:13,374 --> 01:22:13,784


3183
01:22:13,784 --> 01:22:14,358
and very good at what they do.

3184
01:22:14,358 --> 01:22:14,358


3185
01:22:14,358 --> 01:22:19,152
zero waste team, we're in a

3186
01:22:19,152 --> 01:22:20,950
rebuilding phase on the zero

3187
01:22:20,950 --> 01:22:22,352
waste team, we had some

3188
01:22:22,352 --> 01:22:23,814
turnover, we just -- we're in

3189
01:22:23,814 --> 01:22:23,814


3190
01:22:23,814 --> 01:22:28,688
the process of getting our

3191
01:22:28,688 --> 01:22:32,968
second and final zero waste

3192
01:22:32,968 --> 01:22:34,865
specialist, this team is very

3193
01:22:34,865 --> 01:22:34,865


3194
01:22:34,865 --> 01:22:36,600
important when it comes to

3195
01:22:36,600 --> 01:22:37,569
presenting to the community,

3196
01:22:37,569 --> 01:22:52,114
getting out to the community a

3197
01:22:52,114 --> 01:22:52,114
nd

3198
01:22:52,114 --> 01:22:54,256
let them know what is expected

3199
01:22:54,256 --> 01:22:54,256


3200
01:22:54,256 --> 01:22:54,521
from our ordinances.

3201
01:22:54,521 --> 01:22:59,056
>> how do organizations and

3202
01:22:59,056 --> 01:23:02,305
nonprofits and citizens access

3203
01:23:02,305 --> 01:23:02,491


3204
01:23:02,491 --> 01:23:03,558
that and purchase things?

3205
01:23:03,558 --> 01:23:05,358
can you tell us things about

3206
01:23:05,358 --> 01:23:05,358
that?

3207
01:23:05,358 --> 01:23:07,844
>> how dony purchase --

3208
01:23:07,844 --> 01:23:08,604
>> our surplus goods.

3209
01:23:08,604 --> 01:23:08,935
>> oh, okay.

3210
01:23:08,935 --> 01:23:13,802
our surplus team will post the

3211
01:23:13,802 --> 01:23:14,370


3212
01:23:14,370 --> 01:23:14,370
goods.

3213
01:23:14,370 --> 01:23:16,612
they first will put it back out

3214
01:23:16,612 --> 01:23:16,902


3215
01:23:16,902 --> 01:23:21,092
to city blo employees and say,

3216
01:23:21,092 --> 01:23:21,726
is

3217
01:23:21,726 --> 01:23:23,619
there anything here you're

3218
01:23:23,619 --> 01:23:24,028
interested in?

3219
01:23:24,028 --> 01:23:25,914
and when people come and get

3220
01:23:25,914 --> 01:23:27,786
what they want, they'll turn

3221
01:23:27,786 --> 01:23:29,418
around, take pictures of it,

3222
01:23:29,418 --> 01:23:30,742
they inventory everything, and

3223
01:23:30,742 --> 01:23:30,828


3224
01:23:30,828 --> 01:23:35,188
put it on a go deals website,

3225
01:23:35,188 --> 01:23:35,188


3226
01:23:35,188 --> 01:23:36,366
either as a batch, if they hav

3227
01:23:36,366 --> 01:23:36,575
e

3228
01:23:36,575 --> 01:23:38,969
a bunch of matching chairs or

3229
01:23:38,969 --> 01:23:38,969


3230
01:23:38,969 --> 01:23:39,907
they have something special, a

3231
01:23:39,907 --> 01:23:40,231


3232
01:23:40,231 --> 01:23:41,567
computer unit, they'll put it o

3233
01:23:41,567 --> 01:23:41,567
n

3234
01:23:41,567 --> 01:23:42,769
there, people will bid on, and

3235
01:23:42,769 --> 01:23:42,769


3236
01:23:42,769 --> 01:23:42,910
buy it.

3237
01:23:42,910 --> 01:23:48,489
>> very good, thank you.

3238
01:23:48,489 --> 01:23:57,175
>> so then we have urban

3239
01:23:57,175 --> 01:23:57,175
forestry.

3240
01:23:57,175 --> 01:24:01,490
our tree crew, very important

3241
01:24:01,490 --> 01:24:01,490


3242
01:24:01,490 --> 01:24:05,626
crew, they're actually -- their

3243
01:24:05,626 --> 01:24:05,762


3244
01:24:05,762 --> 01:24:07,824
actual title is tree surgeons,

3245
01:24:07,824 --> 01:24:08,170
I

3246
01:24:08,170 --> 01:24:09,723
thought that was funny until I

3247
01:24:09,723 --> 01:24:09,864


3248
01:24:09,864 --> 01:24:13,001
saw them with a chain saw and

3249
01:24:13,001 --> 01:24:13,001


3250
01:24:13,001 --> 01:24:14,064
realized they are true

3251
01:24:14,064 --> 01:24:14,064
craftsman.

3252
01:24:14,064 --> 01:24:16,332
they can take a tree like this

3253
01:24:16,332 --> 01:24:16,870
,

3254
01:24:16,870 --> 01:24:18,602
I wouldn't know what to do, the

3255
01:24:18,602 --> 01:24:18,602
y

3256
01:24:18,602 --> 01:24:20,474
have it cut, pushed, out of

3257
01:24:20,474 --> 01:24:21,674
there, before you know it.

3258
01:24:21,674 --> 01:24:23,415
they're phenomenal, very

3259
01:24:23,415 --> 01:24:25,347
important to keeping the city o

3260
01:24:25,347 --> 01:24:25,347
f

3261
01:24:25,347 --> 01:24:26,286
gainesville roadways open and

3262
01:24:26,286 --> 01:24:26,286


3263
01:24:26,286 --> 01:24:26,286
running.

3264
01:24:26,286 --> 01:24:32,486
our horticulturalist team loves

3265
01:24:32,486 --> 01:24:32,616


3266
01:24:32,616 --> 01:24:33,119
to plant trees.

3267
01:24:33,119 --> 01:24:35,759
on the right, that's our edibl

3268
01:24:35,759 --> 01:24:36,138
e

3269
01:24:36,138 --> 01:24:38,652
grove that's in smokey bear

3270
01:24:38,652 --> 01:24:38,652
park.

3271
01:24:38,652 --> 01:24:40,222
off in the distance, you can't

3272
01:24:40,222 --> 01:24:40,424


3273
01:24:40,424 --> 01:24:41,624
see, there's one of our

3274
01:24:41,624 --> 01:24:42,955
neighbors who picked some fruit

3275
01:24:42,955 --> 01:24:43,524


3276
01:24:43,524 --> 01:24:44,589
an was eating on the way out.

3277
01:24:44,589 --> 01:24:47,233
this team's very passionate,

3278
01:24:47,233 --> 01:24:49,058
they would plant a tree where

3279
01:24:49,058 --> 01:24:49,058


3280
01:24:49,058 --> 01:24:50,169
I'm standing if you would let

3281
01:24:50,169 --> 01:24:50,169


3282
01:24:50,169 --> 01:24:50,169
them.

3283
01:24:50,169 --> 01:24:52,241
they're amazing.

3284
01:24:52,241 --> 01:24:54,350
we have the program coordinator

3285
01:24:54,350 --> 01:24:56,244


3286
01:24:56,244 --> 01:24:59,044
who is the lead liaison to our

3287
01:24:59,044 --> 01:24:59,476


3288
01:24:59,476 --> 01:25:01,578
tree advisory board, also deals

3289
01:25:01,578 --> 01:25:03,318


3290
01:25:03,318 --> 01:25:04,794
directly with the public,

3291
01:25:04,794 --> 01:25:07,182
sponsoring trees and really is

3292
01:25:07,182 --> 01:25:07,496


3293
01:25:07,496 --> 01:25:09,818
the -- kind of the outreach

3294
01:25:09,818 --> 01:25:13,388
voice for urban forestry.

3295
01:25:13,388 --> 01:25:17,232
and then we have mosquito

3296
01:25:17,232 --> 01:25:19,267
control, so mosquito control

3297
01:25:19,267 --> 01:25:20,977
kind of holds a special place I

3298
01:25:20,977 --> 01:25:20,977
n

3299
01:25:20,977 --> 01:25:23,909
my heart, this is where I

3300
01:25:23,909 --> 01:25:29,344
started my journey with the

3301
01:25:29,344 --> 01:25:29,344
city.

3302
01:25:29,344 --> 01:25:32,614
so you may or may not know,

3303
01:25:32,614 --> 01:25:34,374
mosquitos are the deadliest

3304
01:25:34,374 --> 01:25:38,450
animal on the planet, they kil

3305
01:25:38,450 --> 01:25:38,746
l

3306
01:25:38,746 --> 01:25:42,660
700,000 to a million people

3307
01:25:42,660 --> 01:25:43,238
every year.

3308
01:25:43,238 --> 01:25:45,648
in my opinion, mosquito control

3309
01:25:45,648 --> 01:25:46,057


3310
01:25:46,057 --> 01:25:48,159
is one of the best bangs for

3311
01:25:48,159 --> 01:25:49,192
your puck that the city has.

3312
01:25:49,192 --> 01:25:53,203
in 2016, we had some zeka cases

3313
01:25:53,203 --> 01:25:53,487


3314
01:25:53,487 --> 01:25:55,232
that came in with transient

3315
01:25:55,232 --> 01:25:55,232
students.

3316
01:25:55,232 --> 01:25:58,102
and the mosquito control team

3317
01:25:58,102 --> 01:25:58,102


3318
01:25:58,102 --> 01:26:01,244
had to go out and actually

3319
01:26:01,244 --> 01:26:02,534
spray, treat and really make

3320
01:26:02,534 --> 01:26:04,171
sure that we didn't take

3321
01:26:04,171 --> 01:26:05,944
imported cases and make them

3322
01:26:05,944 --> 01:26:08,612
locally acquired cases.

3323
01:26:08,612 --> 01:26:11,691
very important part of the cit

3324
01:26:11,691 --> 01:26:11,994
y

3325
01:26:11,994 --> 01:26:12,458
of gainesville.

3326
01:26:12,458 --> 01:26:16,490
the city of gainesville has a

3327
01:26:16,490 --> 01:26:16,490


3328
01:26:16,490 --> 01:26:19,288
very, very good integrated pes

3329
01:26:19,288 --> 01:26:19,590
t

3330
01:26:19,590 --> 01:26:20,857
management program, part of tha

3331
01:26:20,857 --> 01:26:20,857
t

3332
01:26:20,857 --> 01:26:26,872
is biological control, so thes

3333
01:26:26,872 --> 01:26:27,066
e

3334
01:26:27,066 --> 01:26:29,502
six ponds are on the public

3335
01:26:29,502 --> 01:26:33,138
works compound.

3336
01:26:33,138 --> 01:26:37,309
we raise fish that are native

3337
01:26:37,309 --> 01:26:37,309


3338
01:26:37,309 --> 01:26:39,474
species, they're ferocious

3339
01:26:39,474 --> 01:26:39,474
eaters.

3340
01:26:39,474 --> 01:26:42,390
any time a pond fills up, or w

3341
01:26:42,390 --> 01:26:42,886
e

3342
01:26:42,886 --> 01:26:44,253
have a new wet area that fills

3343
01:26:44,253 --> 01:26:44,392


3344
01:26:44,392 --> 01:26:47,092
after the rain, these fish go t

3345
01:26:47,092 --> 01:26:47,092
o

3346
01:26:47,092 --> 01:26:50,325
work, and they keep the

3347
01:26:50,325 --> 01:26:50,630
population down.

3348
01:26:50,630 --> 01:26:53,519
proactive treatment is done with

3349
01:26:53,519 --> 01:26:53,519


3350
01:26:53,519 --> 01:26:58,031
the vectomax, a dual active

3351
01:26:58,031 --> 01:27:00,766
bacteria, that focuses on

3352
01:27:00,766 --> 01:27:02,102
mosquito larvae, and when they

3353
01:27:02,102 --> 01:27:02,334


3354
01:27:02,334 --> 01:27:03,842
eat, they are unable to turn

3355
01:27:03,842 --> 01:27:04,028
into adults.

3356
01:27:04,028 --> 01:27:12,508
this is kind of a really short

3357
01:27:12,508 --> 01:27:12,789


3358
01:27:12,789 --> 01:27:14,616
sweet breakdown of a really goo

3359
01:27:14,616 --> 01:27:14,616
d

3360
01:27:14,616 --> 01:27:16,520
integrated pest management

3361
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:16,520
program.

3362
01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:18,654
you have your surveillance whe

3363
01:27:18,654 --> 01:27:18,654
re

3364
01:27:18,654 --> 01:27:21,092
you're really going out there

3365
01:27:21,092 --> 01:27:21,092


3366
01:27:21,092 --> 01:27:23,021
and looking at what mosquitos

3367
01:27:23,021 --> 01:27:23,021


3368
01:27:23,021 --> 01:27:23,580
are popping off.

3369
01:27:23,580 --> 01:27:25,874
you identify that mosquito, you

3370
01:27:25,874 --> 01:27:26,052


3371
01:27:26,052 --> 01:27:28,542
say, that's a swamp mosquito, a

3372
01:27:28,542 --> 01:27:29,256


3373
01:27:29,256 --> 01:27:32,906
container brieeder.

3374
01:27:32,906 --> 01:27:34,828
our guys are doing that

3375
01:27:34,828 --> 01:27:36,362
continuously, they're removing

3376
01:27:36,362 --> 01:27:37,230


3377
01:27:37,230 --> 01:27:38,966
tires, buckets they find on the

3378
01:27:38,966 --> 01:27:39,156


3379
01:27:39,156 --> 01:27:40,938
side of the road or a swamp,

3380
01:27:40,938 --> 01:27:43,270
they're picking that stuff up

3381
01:27:43,270 --> 01:27:43,270


3382
01:27:43,270 --> 01:27:45,566
and physically removing the

3383
01:27:45,566 --> 01:27:45,566
environment.

3384
01:27:45,566 --> 01:27:47,872
they're treating proactively

3385
01:27:47,872 --> 01:27:52,112
with the vectamax granules I w

3386
01:27:52,112 --> 01:27:52,112
as

3387
01:27:52,112 --> 01:27:54,332
previously speaking of.

3388
01:27:54,332 --> 01:27:56,972
on the cattails you see, there's

3389
01:27:56,972 --> 01:27:56,972


3390
01:27:56,972 --> 01:27:58,856
two different types of mosquitos

3391
01:27:58,856 --> 01:27:58,856


3392
01:27:58,856 --> 01:28:00,844
that don't have to comment to

3393
01:28:00,844 --> 01:28:00,844


3394
01:28:00,844 --> 01:28:02,330
the surface for air.

3395
01:28:02,330 --> 01:28:05,830
they tap into the roots of

3396
01:28:05,830 --> 01:28:13,276
cattails so you can get what

3397
01:28:13,276 --> 01:28:13,894
they're eating.

3398
01:28:13,894 --> 01:28:15,936
with that, I will turn it over

3399
01:28:15,936 --> 01:28:16,236


3400
01:28:16,236 --> 01:28:17,537
to dr. Chase knight.

3401
01:28:17,537 --> 01:28:18,278
>> mayor: thank you.

3402
01:28:18,278 --> 01:28:20,788
I would recommend anyone who h

3403
01:28:20,788 --> 01:28:20,788
as

3404
01:28:20,788 --> 01:28:23,112
not spent any time with the

3405
01:28:23,112 --> 01:28:24,149
mosquito control team, I would

3406
01:28:24,149 --> 01:28:25,534


3407
01:28:25,534 --> 01:28:26,522
strongly recommend that, we do

3408
01:28:26,522 --> 01:28:26,982


3409
01:28:26,982 --> 01:28:28,130
some really cool work with tha

3410
01:28:28,130 --> 01:28:30,168
t

3411
01:28:30,168 --> 01:28:31,708
and it was -- I haven't been o

3412
01:28:31,708 --> 01:28:31,708
ut

3413
01:28:31,708 --> 01:28:34,162
in a few years, I have to go

3414
01:28:34,162 --> 01:28:35,264
back out and take a look.

3415
01:28:35,264 --> 01:28:39,054
it's a high-tech use to this,

3416
01:28:39,054 --> 01:28:39,054


3417
01:28:39,054 --> 01:28:39,226
it's functional.

3418
01:28:39,226 --> 01:28:41,912
spend a little time in our

3419
01:28:41,912 --> 01:28:42,792
neighbors and one further out I

3420
01:28:42,792 --> 01:28:42,792
n

3421
01:28:42,792 --> 01:28:43,382
the county, you'll see a

3422
01:28:43,382 --> 01:28:43,382
difference.

3423
01:28:43,382 --> 01:28:46,444
>> good morning, I'm chase

3424
01:28:46,444 --> 01:28:48,370
knight, the city engineer, I

3425
01:28:48,370 --> 01:28:51,107
have the honor of leading the

3426
01:28:51,107 --> 01:28:51,107


3427
01:28:51,107 --> 01:28:52,282
engineering division with the

3428
01:28:52,282 --> 01:28:52,282


3429
01:28:52,282 --> 01:28:52,944
public works department.

3430
01:28:52,944 --> 01:28:55,716
as with everybody else, I start

3431
01:28:55,716 --> 01:28:55,847


3432
01:28:55,847 --> 01:28:59,411
by reviewing the team.

3433
01:28:59,411 --> 01:29:01,686
and I want to pause and make

3434
01:29:01,686 --> 01:29:02,892
sure that I recognize the heart

3435
01:29:02,892 --> 01:29:02,892
s

3436
01:29:02,892 --> 01:29:05,150
and brains of the engineering

3437
01:29:05,150 --> 01:29:05,150


3438
01:29:05,150 --> 01:29:05,150
division.

3439
01:29:05,150 --> 01:29:08,759
our greatest asset, our people

3440
01:29:08,759 --> 01:29:08,759
.

3441
01:29:08,759 --> 01:29:10,334
because without them, none of

3442
01:29:10,334 --> 01:29:10,334


3443
01:29:10,334 --> 01:29:11,628
the work or numbers that I'm

3444
01:29:11,628 --> 01:29:13,292
about to go through will be

3445
01:29:13,292 --> 01:29:13,292
possible.

3446
01:29:13,292 --> 01:29:18,802
so the team here consists of

3447
01:29:18,802 --> 01:29:23,376
40.5fte's, we're divided into 5

3448
01:29:23,376 --> 01:29:23,546


3449
01:29:23,546 --> 01:29:25,408
sub teams, it's the capital

3450
01:29:25,408 --> 01:29:26,176
projects and development review

3451
01:29:26,176 --> 01:29:26,176
,

3452
01:29:26,176 --> 01:29:28,584
right-of-way permitting and

3453
01:29:28,584 --> 01:29:30,348
inspections, storm water

3454
01:29:30,348 --> 01:29:31,150
engineering, survey and traffi

3455
01:29:31,150 --> 01:29:31,321
c

3456
01:29:31,321 --> 01:29:31,321
management.

3457
01:29:31,321 --> 01:29:37,720
so in terms of the high level

3458
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:37,720


3459
01:29:37,720 --> 01:29:39,690
overview of some of the more

3460
01:29:39,690 --> 01:29:43,134
important kpi's that we have,

3461
01:29:43,134 --> 01:29:43,134


3462
01:29:43,134 --> 01:29:46,306
and starting with the number o

3463
01:29:46,306 --> 01:29:46,698
f

3464
01:29:46,698 --> 01:29:48,134
design projects completed for

3465
01:29:48,134 --> 01:29:48,134


3466
01:29:48,134 --> 01:29:49,898
both roadway and storm water

3467
01:29:49,898 --> 01:29:52,332
projects, we're right on track

3468
01:29:52,332 --> 01:29:52,606


3469
01:29:52,606 --> 01:29:54,206
through quarter one for fy '26,

3470
01:29:54,206 --> 01:29:54,728


3471
01:29:54,728 --> 01:29:55,986
and one thing I wanted to

3472
01:29:55,986 --> 01:29:59,814
highlight here is, the majority

3473
01:29:59,814 --> 01:29:59,994


3474
01:29:59,994 --> 01:30:01,520
of projects that we're designing

3475
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:01,520


3476
01:30:01,520 --> 01:30:03,382
are in house, that's been a key

3477
01:30:03,382 --> 01:30:03,718


3478
01:30:03,718 --> 01:30:05,416
focus for us, just to be able t

3479
01:30:05,416 --> 01:30:05,416
o

3480
01:30:05,416 --> 01:30:06,890
build up that expertise in

3481
01:30:06,890 --> 01:30:09,420
house, so we can begin to

3482
01:30:09,420 --> 01:30:13,190
balance our dependency.

3483
01:30:13,190 --> 01:30:15,896
in terms of construction

3484
01:30:15,896 --> 01:30:18,956
projects completed, we're on

3485
01:30:18,956 --> 01:30:22,096
track with our goal for this

3486
01:30:22,096 --> 01:30:23,733
fiscal year through quarter 1,

3487
01:30:23,733 --> 01:30:24,396


3488
01:30:24,396 --> 01:30:25,604
and just there are two examples

3489
01:30:25,604 --> 01:30:25,776


3490
01:30:25,776 --> 01:30:28,574
of projects that were completed

3491
01:30:28,574 --> 01:30:29,100
during that

3492
01:30:29,100 --> 01:30:30,474
during that quarter.

3493
01:30:30,474 --> 01:30:39,125
and moving on to review tasks   for

3494
01:30:39,125 --> 01:30:40,926
for developments, this is really  a

3495
01:30:40,926 --> 01:30:42,720
a cross function of kpi's, so w

3496
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:42,720
e

3497
01:30:42,720 --> 01:30:45,124
have multiple team members tha

3498
01:30:45,124 --> 01:30:47,058
t

3499
01:30:47,058 --> 01:30:48,444
review plans for development a

3500
01:30:48,444 --> 01:30:48,444
nd

3501
01:30:48,444 --> 01:30:50,902
building permits, along with

3502
01:30:50,902 --> 01:30:52,406
other city departments in

3503
01:30:52,406 --> 01:30:53,464
conjunction with the city

3504
01:30:53,464 --> 01:30:53,464
departments.

3505
01:30:53,464 --> 01:30:56,910
so again, for this one, we are

3506
01:30:56,910 --> 01:30:56,910


3507
01:30:56,910 --> 01:30:58,469
on track looking at our quarter

3508
01:30:58,469 --> 01:30:58,642


3509
01:30:58,642 --> 01:31:01,268
one numbers to meet our

3510
01:31:01,268 --> 01:31:05,119
expectations for this fiscal

3511
01:31:05,119 --> 01:31:05,119
year.

3512
01:31:05,119 --> 01:31:08,828
and switching to traffic

3513
01:31:08,828 --> 01:31:11,750
operations, again, we are on

3514
01:31:11,750 --> 01:31:13,646
track for this particular kpi

3515
01:31:13,646 --> 01:31:13,646


3516
01:31:13,646 --> 01:31:16,752
looking at the number of traffic

3517
01:31:16,752 --> 01:31:16,752


3518
01:31:16,752 --> 01:31:19,989
engineers and related service

3519
01:31:19,989 --> 01:31:19,989


3520
01:31:19,989 --> 01:31:19,989
requests.

3521
01:31:19,989 --> 01:31:24,959
our goal for this year is 100

3522
01:31:24,959 --> 01:31:24,959


3523
01:31:24,959 --> 01:31:25,506
through quarter one.

3524
01:31:25,506 --> 01:31:28,666
we're just about on track to

3525
01:31:28,666 --> 01:31:29,816
meet that expectation.

3526
01:31:29,816 --> 01:31:32,204
we are slightly off our goal o

3527
01:31:32,204 --> 01:31:32,766
f

3528
01:31:32,766 --> 01:31:39,116
having 100% response time, les

3529
01:31:39,116 --> 01:31:39,252
s

3530
01:31:39,252 --> 01:31:41,411
than 40 hours, and that

3531
01:31:41,411 --> 01:31:42,512
certainly is something that

3532
01:31:42,512 --> 01:31:43,152
we'll continue to focus on

3533
01:31:43,152 --> 01:31:43,152
improving.

3534
01:31:43,152 --> 01:31:47,866
and then just to take a break

3535
01:31:47,866 --> 01:31:47,866


3536
01:31:47,866 --> 01:31:50,448
from the numbers for a little

3537
01:31:50,448 --> 01:31:50,448


3538
01:31:50,448 --> 01:31:54,230
bit, I do want to highlight som

3539
01:31:54,230 --> 01:31:54,230
e

3540
01:31:54,230 --> 01:31:55,894
general collaborations and key

3541
01:31:55,894 --> 01:31:57,230


3542
01:31:57,230 --> 01:32:00,109
initiatives that we've been

3543
01:32:00,109 --> 01:32:00,732
working with other departments

3544
01:32:00,732 --> 01:32:00,992


3545
01:32:00,992 --> 01:32:03,066
and agencies, with the traffic

3546
01:32:03,066 --> 01:32:05,142


3547
01:32:05,142 --> 01:32:06,272
engineering side.

3548
01:32:06,272 --> 01:32:07,974
so we've continued collaborati

3549
01:32:07,974 --> 01:32:07,974
on

3550
01:32:07,974 --> 01:32:09,708
with law enforcement partners,

3551
01:32:09,708 --> 01:32:10,121


3552
01:32:10,121 --> 01:32:13,280
on cctv integration, so we can

3553
01:32:13,280 --> 01:32:13,478


3554
01:32:13,478 --> 01:32:15,384
get realtime feeds, also,

3555
01:32:15,384 --> 01:32:17,482
working with the sheriff's

3556
01:32:17,482 --> 01:32:18,644
office as they explore buildin

3557
01:32:18,644 --> 01:32:18,858
g

3558
01:32:18,858 --> 01:32:21,236
a realtime intelligence center

3559
01:32:21,236 --> 01:32:21,236
.

3560
01:32:21,236 --> 01:32:25,128
and then we just continue with

3561
01:32:25,128 --> 01:32:25,957


3562
01:32:25,957 --> 01:32:27,386
preventative maintenance on all

3563
01:32:27,386 --> 01:32:28,152


3564
01:32:28,152 --> 01:32:29,072
251 traffic signals.

3565
01:32:29,072 --> 01:32:31,266
and the number is growing, tha

3566
01:32:31,266 --> 01:32:31,412
t

3567
01:32:31,412 --> 01:32:32,732
are maintained by the city.

3568
01:32:32,732 --> 01:32:36,200
so that helps us to reduce

3569
01:32:36,200 --> 01:32:39,772
calls, which saves time and

3570
01:32:39,772 --> 01:32:39,772
money.

3571
01:32:39,772 --> 01:32:44,418
moving to some numbers for a

3572
01:32:44,418 --> 01:32:44,742
survey team.

3573
01:32:44,742 --> 01:32:46,540
number of surveys completed.

3574
01:32:46,540 --> 01:32:51,748
we're on track here for goal

3575
01:32:51,748 --> 01:32:52,592
this fiscal year.

3576
01:32:52,592 --> 01:32:54,890
number of right-of-way

3577
01:32:54,890 --> 01:32:55,850
determinations, in support of

3578
01:32:55,850 --> 01:32:59,289
reactive services for

3579
01:32:59,289 --> 01:33:02,166
operations, gpd, code

3580
01:33:02,166 --> 01:33:02,166
enforcement.

3581
01:33:02,166 --> 01:33:07,772
also on track to meet our

3582
01:33:07,772 --> 01:33:09,502
expectation for this year.

3583
01:33:09,502 --> 01:33:12,343
likewise on track 4, the numbe

3584
01:33:12,343 --> 01:33:12,600
r

3585
01:33:12,600 --> 01:33:14,034
of legal descriptions complete

3586
01:33:14,034 --> 01:33:14,034
d.

3587
01:33:14,034 --> 01:33:17,912
one thing to highlight here tha

3588
01:33:17,912 --> 01:33:17,912
t

3589
01:33:17,912 --> 01:33:19,737
I show on the slide, basically,

3590
01:33:19,737 --> 01:33:20,976


3591
01:33:20,976 --> 01:33:23,735
it's not eligible, the picture

3592
01:33:23,735 --> 01:33:23,866
s

3593
01:33:23,866 --> 01:33:26,082
is an expert from the 42 page

3594
01:33:26,082 --> 01:33:26,082


3595
01:33:26,082 --> 01:33:27,514
legal description of the city

3596
01:33:27,514 --> 01:33:27,514


3597
01:33:27,514 --> 01:33:27,924
that our surveyor completed.

3598
01:33:27,924 --> 01:33:33,998
I find it hard sometimes to kee

3599
01:33:33,998 --> 01:33:33,998
p

3600
01:33:33,998 --> 01:33:36,497
up with a half page legal

3601
01:33:36,497 --> 01:33:37,896
description, not to mention one

3602
01:33:37,896 --> 01:33:38,264


3603
01:33:38,264 --> 01:33:39,532
that's 42 pages long.

3604
01:33:39,532 --> 01:33:39,830
that's impressive.

3605
01:33:39,830 --> 01:33:44,502
moving on to our right-of-way

3606
01:33:44,502 --> 01:33:44,502


3607
01:33:44,502 --> 01:33:46,068
permitting and inspections

3608
01:33:46,068 --> 01:33:47,176
group, so looking at the numbe

3609
01:33:47,176 --> 01:33:47,370
r

3610
01:33:47,370 --> 01:33:51,612
of permits that I've been

3611
01:33:51,612 --> 01:33:52,946
issued, for work in the

3612
01:33:52,946 --> 01:33:52,946
right-of-way.

3613
01:33:52,946 --> 01:33:56,716
again, right there on track for

3614
01:33:56,716 --> 01:33:57,142


3615
01:33:57,142 --> 01:33:59,514
what we expect this year.

3616
01:33:59,514 --> 01:34:02,952
and then finally, looking at t

3617
01:34:02,952 --> 01:34:02,952
he

3618
01:34:02,952 --> 01:34:06,386
number of inspections that tha

3619
01:34:06,386 --> 01:34:06,556
t

3620
01:34:06,556 --> 01:34:07,822
team has completed per month,

3621
01:34:07,822 --> 01:34:07,822


3622
01:34:07,822 --> 01:34:10,934
and I do want to apologize,

3623
01:34:10,934 --> 01:34:13,102
there's an update for this

3624
01:34:13,102 --> 01:34:13,102
slide.

3625
01:34:13,102 --> 01:34:16,542
so for the quarter one, the fy

3626
01:34:16,542 --> 01:34:17,002


3627
01:34:17,002 --> 01:34:19,053
'26 quarter one numbers, it is

3628
01:34:19,053 --> 01:34:19,053
a

3629
01:34:19,053 --> 01:34:22,948
total of 538 on average for

3630
01:34:22,948 --> 01:34:23,934
those first three months of the

3631
01:34:23,934 --> 01:34:24,174


3632
01:34:24,174 --> 01:34:24,174
year.

3633
01:34:24,174 --> 01:34:28,912
and that broke down to 173 for

3634
01:34:28,912 --> 01:34:29,292


3635
01:34:29,292 --> 01:34:30,423
building inspections, building

3636
01:34:30,423 --> 01:34:30,848


3637
01:34:30,848 --> 01:34:32,684
related inspections and building

3638
01:34:32,684 --> 01:34:32,684


3639
01:34:32,684 --> 01:34:35,416
permit related inspections.

3640
01:34:35,416 --> 01:34:41,024
and 365 right-of-way permit

3641
01:34:41,024 --> 01:34:41,024
inspections.

3642
01:34:41,024 --> 01:34:46,866
and that concludes what I have

3643
01:34:46,866 --> 01:34:47,072


3644
01:34:47,072 --> 01:34:48,228
>> mayor: very good, thank I.

3645
01:34:48,228 --> 01:34:50,338
I'll pass it on to mr. Rossi.

3646
01:34:50,338 --> 01:34:51,142
>> mayor: welcome.

3647
01:34:51,142 --> 01:34:55,844
>> steve rossi, computer syste

3648
01:34:55,844 --> 01:34:55,844
ms

3649
01:34:55,844 --> 01:34:57,134
analyst for public works.

3650
01:34:57,134 --> 01:34:59,142
we're one of the smaller

3651
01:34:59,142 --> 01:34:59,890
divisions of public works with

3652
01:34:59,890 --> 01:35:00,660


3653
01:35:00,660 --> 01:35:01,900
only two full time employees,

3654
01:35:01,900 --> 01:35:01,900


3655
01:35:01,900 --> 01:35:03,592
one of which is standing before

3656
01:35:03,592 --> 01:35:04,294


3657
01:35:04,294 --> 01:35:04,294
you.

3658
01:35:04,294 --> 01:35:05,976
as such, we wear many, many

3659
01:35:05,976 --> 01:35:06,222
different hats.

3660
01:35:06,222 --> 01:35:11,866
anything from helping staff

3661
01:35:11,866 --> 01:35:15,566
provide reportreports, procurem

3662
01:35:15,566 --> 01:35:15,912
ent,

3663
01:35:15,912 --> 01:35:17,284
how tos, training, anything that

3664
01:35:17,284 --> 01:35:17,284


3665
01:35:17,284 --> 01:35:20,180
happens to involve technology.

3666
01:35:20,180 --> 01:35:20,180


3667
01:35:20,180 --> 01:35:21,938
or as we like to think of it,

3668
01:35:21,938 --> 01:35:21,938


3669
01:35:21,938 --> 01:35:22,544
anything that plugs into the

3670
01:35:22,544 --> 01:35:22,544
wall.

3671
01:35:22,544 --> 01:35:26,368
the bulk of our workforce in

3672
01:35:26,368 --> 01:35:27,632
public works is mobile.

3673
01:35:27,632 --> 01:35:30,360
they're in the field all day

3674
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:30,360
long.

3675
01:35:30,360 --> 01:35:32,504
they need mobile devices and

3676
01:35:32,504 --> 01:35:32,504
communications.

3677
01:35:32,504 --> 01:35:34,776
we keep track of almost 300

3678
01:35:34,776 --> 01:35:35,154
devices for our staff.

3679
01:35:35,154 --> 01:35:46,854
we also manage systems for the

3680
01:35:46,854 --> 01:35:47,330


3681
01:35:47,330 --> 01:35:49,966
gis system, some are shared by

3682
01:35:49,966 --> 01:35:50,008


3683
01:35:50,008 --> 01:35:51,233
public works and parks.

3684
01:35:51,233 --> 01:35:54,762
and we also maintain our own

3685
01:35:54,762 --> 01:35:56,234
cloud environment, where we run

3686
01:35:56,234 --> 01:35:56,560


3687
01:35:56,560 --> 01:35:57,742
and host these applications,

3688
01:35:57,742 --> 01:35:58,800
most of the stuff that our

3689
01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:00,504
department is using, we're

3690
01:36:00,504 --> 01:36:01,589
providing the front line suppo

3691
01:36:01,589 --> 01:36:01,589
rt

3692
01:36:01,589 --> 01:36:03,150
and the back end infrastructure

3693
01:36:03,150 --> 01:36:03,150


3694
01:36:03,150 --> 01:36:03,446
support of it.

3695
01:36:03,446 --> 01:36:08,516
our goals with having that man

3696
01:36:08,516 --> 01:36:08,844
y

3697
01:36:08,844 --> 01:36:11,246
mobile devices is to try to

3698
01:36:11,246 --> 01:36:12,356
replace them every four years.

3699
01:36:12,356 --> 01:36:12,356


3700
01:36:12,356 --> 01:36:13,888
this helps ensure that we have

3701
01:36:13,888 --> 01:36:14,046


3702
01:36:14,046 --> 01:36:15,254
the latest technology in front

3703
01:36:15,254 --> 01:36:15,458


3704
01:36:15,458 --> 01:36:18,154
of them, and they also have the

3705
01:36:18,154 --> 01:36:18,238


3706
01:36:18,238 --> 01:36:19,290
most recent can communications

3707
01:36:19,290 --> 01:36:19,562


3708
01:36:19,562 --> 01:36:20,992
and good battery life, since

3709
01:36:20,992 --> 01:36:22,060
they're going to be in the fie

3710
01:36:22,060 --> 01:36:22,060
ld

3711
01:36:22,060 --> 01:36:22,488
all day.

3712
01:36:22,488 --> 01:36:24,428
we try to make the most use of

3713
01:36:24,428 --> 01:36:24,684


3714
01:36:24,684 --> 01:36:26,562
our technology assets, we

3715
01:36:26,562 --> 01:36:27,872
promote the use of technology,

3716
01:36:27,872 --> 01:36:28,398


3717
01:36:28,398 --> 01:36:30,732
try to find efficiencies,

3718
01:36:30,732 --> 01:36:31,872
anything to help the departmen

3719
01:36:31,872 --> 01:36:32,084
t

3720
01:36:32,084 --> 01:36:33,798
reach their goals, and we

3721
01:36:33,798 --> 01:36:36,342
provide the front line support

3722
01:36:36,342 --> 01:36:36,342


3723
01:36:36,342 --> 01:36:37,228
for all of our staff, anything

3724
01:36:37,228 --> 01:36:37,374


3725
01:36:37,374 --> 01:36:39,587
that doesn't get covered by

3726
01:36:39,587 --> 01:36:42,718
gru I.t. Is what falls back to

3727
01:36:42,718 --> 01:36:42,912


3728
01:36:42,912 --> 01:36:46,186
us, most of that is department

3729
01:36:46,186 --> 01:36:46,467


3730
01:36:46,467 --> 01:36:48,188
specific things are specialized

3731
01:36:48,188 --> 01:36:48,448


3732
01:36:48,448 --> 01:36:49,290
that only public works would be

3733
01:36:49,290 --> 01:36:49,290


3734
01:36:49,290 --> 01:36:49,290
utilizing.

3735
01:36:49,290 --> 01:36:54,427
and our performance indicators

3736
01:36:54,427 --> 01:36:54,894
,

3737
01:36:54,894 --> 01:36:57,120
we try to keep our systems

3738
01:36:57,120 --> 01:36:57,120
available.

3739
01:36:57,120 --> 01:36:59,768
99.9% up time.

3740
01:36:59,768 --> 01:37:02,230
that leads to less than 45

3741
01:37:02,230 --> 01:37:05,842
minutes of downtown every month

3742
01:37:05,842 --> 01:37:05,982


3743
01:37:05,982 --> 01:37:06,506
for these systems.

3744
01:37:06,506 --> 01:37:08,288
as we refresh the mobile phone

3745
01:37:08,288 --> 01:37:08,510
s

3746
01:37:08,510 --> 01:37:10,478
with the volume we have,s 25% o

3747
01:37:10,478 --> 01:37:10,478
f

3748
01:37:10,478 --> 01:37:12,416
them each year, that equates t

3749
01:37:12,416 --> 01:37:12,640
o

3750
01:37:12,640 --> 01:37:14,784
about 6 devices every month tha

3751
01:37:14,784 --> 01:37:14,784
t

3752
01:37:14,784 --> 01:37:15,342
we swap out.

3753
01:37:15,342 --> 01:37:18,090
and we try to pride ourselves o

3754
01:37:18,090 --> 01:37:18,090
n

3755
01:37:18,090 --> 01:37:20,026
resolving all of these issues

3756
01:37:20,026 --> 01:37:20,026


3757
01:37:20,026 --> 01:37:21,316
the first time that staff

3758
01:37:21,316 --> 01:37:22,998
reaches out to us, we want to

3759
01:37:22,998 --> 01:37:22,998


3760
01:37:22,998 --> 01:37:25,092
make sure that they can complete

3761
01:37:25,092 --> 01:37:25,092


3762
01:37:25,092 --> 01:37:26,991
whatever task they needed, and

3763
01:37:26,991 --> 01:37:27,262


3764
01:37:27,262 --> 01:37:31,468
not have to defer it or circle

3765
01:37:31,468 --> 01:37:31,664


3766
01:37:31,664 --> 01:37:32,254
back around.

3767
01:37:32,254 --> 01:37:34,574
our success in trying to make

3768
01:37:34,574 --> 01:37:34,574


3769
01:37:34,574 --> 01:37:36,700
sure that our staff can do the

3770
01:37:36,700 --> 01:37:36,700
ir

3771
01:37:36,700 --> 01:37:38,620
duties is what helps lead to th

3772
01:37:38,620 --> 01:37:38,620
e

3773
01:37:38,620 --> 01:37:42,084
kpi's for the rest of the

3774
01:37:42,084 --> 01:37:42,084
department.

3775
01:37:42,084 --> 01:37:44,650
and that is all I have.

3776
01:37:44,650 --> 01:37:47,144
>> mayor: very good.

3777
01:37:47,144 --> 01:37:47,519
hold on a second.

3778
01:37:47,519 --> 01:37:49,648
commissioner willits?

3779
01:37:49,648 --> 01:37:51,344
>> a question about how your

3780
01:37:51,344 --> 01:37:55,656
team interacts or fitz into the

3781
01:37:55,656 --> 01:37:59,724


3782
01:37:59,724 --> 01:38:00,884
burgeoning department under

3783
01:38:00,884 --> 01:38:01,356
director nagy.

3784
01:38:01,356 --> 01:38:04,724
I know lots of different

3785
01:38:04,724 --> 01:38:05,356
departments operate technology.

3786
01:38:05,356 --> 01:38:05,356


3787
01:38:05,356 --> 01:38:07,140
a little insight on how that's

3788
01:38:07,140 --> 01:38:07,284


3789
01:38:07,284 --> 01:38:08,631
been working or what our plans

3790
01:38:08,631 --> 01:38:08,898


3791
01:38:08,898 --> 01:38:09,394
for the future?

3792
01:38:09,394 --> 01:38:11,532
>> we've been sharing some of

3793
01:38:11,532 --> 01:38:11,532


3794
01:38:11,532 --> 01:38:13,100
the efforts that we do within

3795
01:38:13,100 --> 01:38:13,100


3796
01:38:13,100 --> 01:38:15,070
the department, a couple things

3797
01:38:15,070 --> 01:38:15,070


3798
01:38:15,070 --> 01:38:18,402
like the enterprise wide

3799
01:38:18,402 --> 01:38:18,942
software before the department

3800
01:38:18,942 --> 01:38:19,584


3801
01:38:19,584 --> 01:38:19,584
existed.

3802
01:38:19,584 --> 01:38:21,298
there wasn't anyone else to

3803
01:38:21,298 --> 01:38:22,309
maintain and carry it forward.

3804
01:38:22,309 --> 01:38:22,309


3805
01:38:22,309 --> 01:38:24,050
we've been holding the torch f

3806
01:38:24,050 --> 01:38:24,050
or

3807
01:38:24,050 --> 01:38:26,175
a couple of the enterprise

3808
01:38:26,175 --> 01:38:26,175
contracts.

3809
01:38:26,175 --> 01:38:28,417
hoping to eventually be able t

3810
01:38:28,417 --> 01:38:28,686
o

3811
01:38:28,686 --> 01:38:30,192
turn them over to them, once

3812
01:38:30,192 --> 01:38:34,316
they start picking up on that we

3813
01:38:34,316 --> 01:38:34,316


3814
01:38:34,316 --> 01:38:39,358
don't overlap with what gru I.

3815
01:38:39,358 --> 01:38:39,358
t.

3816
01:38:39,358 --> 01:38:42,030
does, it may not be on the

3817
01:38:42,030 --> 01:38:43,774
horizon for that group yet,

3818
01:38:43,774 --> 01:38:45,147
until they take over all of

3819
01:38:45,147 --> 01:38:45,842
those duties.

3820
01:38:45,842 --> 01:38:47,569
>> that is kind of where I was

3821
01:38:47,569 --> 01:38:47,937


3822
01:38:47,937 --> 01:38:48,208
getting at.

3823
01:38:48,208 --> 01:38:51,550
the gru things, very clearly w

3824
01:38:51,550 --> 01:38:51,840
e

3825
01:38:51,840 --> 01:38:54,010
think a plan or it's the scope

3826
01:38:54,010 --> 01:38:54,542


3827
01:38:54,542 --> 01:38:58,012
of director nagy, the nongri, I

3828
01:38:58,012 --> 01:38:58,526


3829
01:38:58,526 --> 01:39:00,582
was a little less aware of wha

3830
01:39:00,582 --> 01:39:00,723
t

3831
01:39:00,723 --> 01:39:03,382
our plans are for the non-gru

3832
01:39:03,382 --> 01:39:03,382


3833
01:39:03,382 --> 01:39:04,902
items, you've been holding dow

3834
01:39:04,902 --> 01:39:05,033
n

3835
01:39:05,033 --> 01:39:06,304
our other departments where

3836
01:39:06,304 --> 01:39:07,400
there's some opportunities,

3837
01:39:07,400 --> 01:39:08,796
perhaps where it's easier or

3838
01:39:08,796 --> 01:39:10,588
more efficient to house them

3839
01:39:10,588 --> 01:39:13,798
under the I. Dd. Department, a

3840
01:39:13,798 --> 01:39:14,562
n

3841
01:39:14,562 --> 01:39:15,770
enterprise software that needs

3842
01:39:15,770 --> 01:39:15,898


3843
01:39:15,898 --> 01:39:16,764
to be maintained there, because

3844
01:39:16,764 --> 01:39:16,944


3845
01:39:16,944 --> 01:39:19,070
he this can be the expert on

3846
01:39:19,070 --> 01:39:19,827
maintaining, we can do the work

3847
01:39:19,827 --> 01:39:19,914


3848
01:39:19,914 --> 01:39:20,222
we need to do.

3849
01:39:20,222 --> 01:39:23,488
>> thank you.

3850
01:39:23,488 --> 01:39:26,240
>> mayor: thank you.

3851
01:39:26,240 --> 01:39:26,651
welcome back.

3852
01:39:26,651 --> 01:39:28,986
>> thank you, we're on to the

3853
01:39:28,986 --> 01:39:28,986


3854
01:39:28,986 --> 01:39:31,610
last division of our team, the

3855
01:39:31,610 --> 01:39:31,889


3856
01:39:31,889 --> 01:39:33,148
administrative team division.

3857
01:39:33,148 --> 01:39:35,288
I think of steve's team and the

3858
01:39:35,288 --> 01:39:36,438


3859
01:39:36,438 --> 01:39:40,096
demonstrative team as being the

3860
01:39:40,096 --> 01:39:40,138


3861
01:39:40,138 --> 01:39:41,064
glue that holds us all together.

3862
01:39:41,064 --> 01:39:41,064


3863
01:39:41,064 --> 01:39:43,656
the administrative team is led

3864
01:39:43,656 --> 01:39:44,138


3865
01:39:44,138 --> 01:39:45,662
by abeesag walken booth.

3866
01:39:45,662 --> 01:39:50,772
she has 18 fte's, they're

3867
01:39:50,772 --> 01:39:53,918
helping us with budget prep for

3868
01:39:53,918 --> 01:39:53,918
the

3869
01:39:53,918 --> 01:40:00,508
the

3870
01:40:00,508 --> 01:40:01,912
grant coordinator coming in

3871
01:40:01,912 --> 01:40:05,210
soon, I hope, crossing our

3872
01:40:05,210 --> 01:40:05,210
fingers.

3873
01:40:05,210 --> 01:40:07,281
grants can be challenging to

3874
01:40:07,281 --> 01:40:09,351
make sure you check all the --

3875
01:40:09,351 --> 01:40:11,754
all the -- cross all the

3876
01:40:11,754 --> 01:40:15,620
t's, so -- and then they help

3877
01:40:15,620 --> 01:40:15,620


3878
01:40:15,620 --> 01:40:16,825
out with the supply chain.

3879
01:40:16,825 --> 01:40:19,226
they oversee one of the

3880
01:40:19,226 --> 01:40:21,114
warehouse staff helps us with

3881
01:40:21,114 --> 01:40:21,114


3882
01:40:21,114 --> 01:40:23,444
that, and then solid waste

3883
01:40:23,444 --> 01:40:24,531
customer service, which gets a

3884
01:40:24,531 --> 01:40:24,531


3885
01:40:24,531 --> 01:40:24,901
huge amount of calls.

3886
01:40:24,901 --> 01:40:32,155
their key performance

3887
01:40:32,155 --> 01:40:33,506
indicator -- I should have take

3888
01:40:33,506 --> 01:40:33,506
n

3889
01:40:33,506 --> 01:40:34,612
a drink of water before I came

3890
01:40:34,612 --> 01:40:34,838


3891
01:40:34,838 --> 01:40:35,198
back up.

3892
01:40:35,198 --> 01:40:37,056
for them, largely, we're looking

3893
01:40:37,056 --> 01:40:37,056


3894
01:40:37,056 --> 01:40:38,953
at a large number of

3895
01:40:38,953 --> 01:40:40,212
acquisitions that get processe

3896
01:40:40,212 --> 01:40:40,212
d,

3897
01:40:40,212 --> 01:40:42,752
purchase orders, around 600 per

3898
01:40:42,752 --> 01:40:43,124


3899
01:40:43,124 --> 01:40:43,124
year.

3900
01:40:43,124 --> 01:40:45,788
last year was a little low, but

3901
01:40:45,788 --> 01:40:46,019


3902
01:40:46,019 --> 01:40:46,998
we're already up for the

3903
01:40:46,998 --> 01:40:48,460
quarter, you can see we're

3904
01:40:48,460 --> 01:40:51,156
around 300 for both requisition

3905
01:40:51,156 --> 01:40:51,156
s

3906
01:40:51,156 --> 01:40:53,634
requested, and the purchase

3907
01:40:53,634 --> 01:40:55,670
orders generated.

3908
01:40:55,670 --> 01:40:57,864
they do a variety of finance

3909
01:40:57,864 --> 01:40:59,808
reports for us, and then proce

3910
01:40:59,808 --> 01:40:59,808
ss

3911
01:40:59,808 --> 01:41:04,377
thousands of invoices every

3912
01:41:04,377 --> 01:41:04,377
year.

3913
01:41:04,377 --> 01:41:06,006
and then jared and I are going

3914
01:41:06,006 --> 01:41:06,314


3915
01:41:06,314 --> 01:41:08,548
to move on to -- just some of

3916
01:41:08,548 --> 01:41:08,548


3917
01:41:08,548 --> 01:41:10,875
our emergency response

3918
01:41:10,875 --> 01:41:12,518
activities, I'll let jared --

3919
01:41:12,518 --> 01:41:12,518


3920
01:41:12,518 --> 01:41:15,894
he's going to start first.

3921
01:41:15,894 --> 01:41:16,386
>> thank you.

3922
01:41:16,386 --> 01:41:18,789
hello again, I want to

3923
01:41:18,789 --> 01:41:20,060
apologize, I forgot to mention

3924
01:41:20,060 --> 01:41:20,358


3925
01:41:20,358 --> 01:41:22,626
one of our key strategic goals

3926
01:41:22,626 --> 01:41:22,824


3927
01:41:22,824 --> 01:41:23,856
for the land ranking.

3928
01:41:23,856 --> 01:41:24,738
we're working on.

3929
01:41:24,738 --> 01:41:26,604
we've been in collaboration wit

3930
01:41:26,604 --> 01:41:26,604
h

3931
01:41:26,604 --> 01:41:26,604
prca.

3932
01:41:26,604 --> 01:41:32,040
we come to what we feel is a

3933
01:41:32,040 --> 01:41:33,468
good place for ranking land for

3934
01:41:33,468 --> 01:41:33,706


3935
01:41:33,706 --> 01:41:33,706
purchase.

3936
01:41:33,706 --> 01:41:36,394
and we will be bringing that t

3937
01:41:36,394 --> 01:41:36,672
o

3938
01:41:36,672 --> 01:41:37,512
you for discussion and hopefull

3939
01:41:37,512 --> 01:41:37,512
y

3940
01:41:37,512 --> 01:41:37,512
approval.

3941
01:41:37,512 --> 01:41:39,998
>> mayor: very good.

3942
01:41:39,998 --> 01:41:41,340
>> on may 7th.

3943
01:41:41,340 --> 01:41:48,749
police, fire and public works

3944
01:41:48,749 --> 01:41:48,749


3945
01:41:48,749 --> 01:41:53,292
are all first responders.

3946
01:41:53,292 --> 01:41:58,230
so what kind of kicks off the

3947
01:41:58,230 --> 01:41:58,230


3948
01:41:58,230 --> 01:42:00,066
operations -- kind of kicks off

3949
01:42:00,066 --> 01:42:00,242


3950
01:42:00,242 --> 01:42:02,730
the operations, emergency

3951
01:42:02,730 --> 01:42:03,636
response here, in the may time

3952
01:42:03,636 --> 01:42:03,967


3953
01:42:03,967 --> 01:42:05,534
frame, will start doing

3954
01:42:05,534 --> 01:42:07,044
preparations where we test out

3955
01:42:07,044 --> 01:42:07,300


3956
01:42:07,300 --> 01:42:09,174
our equipment by making 10,000

3957
01:42:09,174 --> 01:42:09,812


3958
01:42:09,812 --> 01:42:12,714
sandbags, and we make 10,000

3959
01:42:12,714 --> 01:42:14,010
sandbags, we store them so tha

3960
01:42:14,010 --> 01:42:14,243
t

3961
01:42:14,243 --> 01:42:16,347
if we do get a declaration of a

3962
01:42:16,347 --> 01:42:16,347
n

3963
01:42:16,347 --> 01:42:18,116
emergency, we're not starting

3964
01:42:18,116 --> 01:42:18,116


3965
01:42:18,116 --> 01:42:20,252
from 0, because when those car

3966
01:42:20,252 --> 01:42:20,420
s

3967
01:42:20,420 --> 01:42:22,314
start lining up, if you're

3968
01:42:22,314 --> 01:42:24,156
starting from 0, you're never

3969
01:42:24,156 --> 01:42:24,156


3970
01:42:24,156 --> 01:42:25,618
ever ever going to give

3971
01:42:25,618 --> 01:42:26,288
everybody a sandbag.

3972
01:42:26,288 --> 01:42:27,964
that's what you see here on the

3973
01:42:27,964 --> 01:42:29,560


3974
01:42:29,560 --> 01:42:32,142
left, early preparations on th

3975
01:42:32,142 --> 01:42:32,324
e

3976
01:42:32,324 --> 01:42:32,632
far right.

3977
01:42:32,632 --> 01:42:34,112
those cars are coming through,

3978
01:42:34,112 --> 01:42:34,462


3979
01:42:34,462 --> 01:42:35,998
we're able to go ahead and sta

3980
01:42:35,998 --> 01:42:35,998
rt

3981
01:42:35,998 --> 01:42:37,362
handing out those bags.

3982
01:42:37,362 --> 01:42:39,666
this is also the handsout phas

3983
01:42:39,666 --> 01:42:39,666
e,

3984
01:42:39,666 --> 01:42:43,425
but with the addition of the ml

3985
01:42:43,425 --> 01:42:43,425
k

3986
01:42:43,425 --> 01:42:46,008
property where we have the

3987
01:42:46,008 --> 01:42:48,083
self-serve and we have our ski

3988
01:42:48,083 --> 01:42:48,242
d

3989
01:42:48,242 --> 01:42:49,973
steer on site, make bags as

3990
01:42:49,973 --> 01:42:49,973
well.

3991
01:42:49,973 --> 01:42:51,677
so people, if they don't feel

3992
01:42:51,677 --> 01:42:51,677


3993
01:42:51,677 --> 01:42:53,216
like waiting, they can go ahead

3994
01:42:53,216 --> 01:42:53,623


3995
01:42:53,623 --> 01:42:55,210
and fill their sandbags and we

3996
01:42:55,210 --> 01:42:55,394


3997
01:42:55,394 --> 01:42:56,212
have folks on site to assist.

3998
01:42:56,212 --> 01:43:05,092
storm rolls through, winds die

3999
01:43:05,092 --> 01:43:05,225


4000
01:43:05,225 --> 01:43:05,961
down, this is the norm.

4001
01:43:05,961 --> 01:43:08,090
you have a roadblock with the

4002
01:43:08,090 --> 01:43:08,090


4003
01:43:08,090 --> 01:43:09,652
tree in the middle of it, what

4004
01:43:09,652 --> 01:43:09,652


4005
01:43:09,652 --> 01:43:11,440
you can't see, there's power

4006
01:43:11,440 --> 01:43:12,061
lines all through that.

4007
01:43:12,061 --> 01:43:14,544
we have to wait for gru to giv

4008
01:43:14,544 --> 01:43:15,280
e

4009
01:43:15,280 --> 01:43:17,736
us the all clear, and our tree

4010
01:43:17,736 --> 01:43:17,860


4011
01:43:17,860 --> 01:43:19,346
crew strike teams will move n

4012
01:43:19,346 --> 01:43:19,346


4013
01:43:19,346 --> 01:43:21,796
take that out of the roadway, s

4014
01:43:21,796 --> 01:43:21,796
o

4015
01:43:21,796 --> 01:43:25,645
people can traverse the featur

4016
01:43:25,645 --> 01:43:25,645
e.

4017
01:43:25,645 --> 01:43:27,615
the top right picture is one

4018
01:43:27,615 --> 01:43:29,618
that took out a light pole.

4019
01:43:29,618 --> 01:43:42,633
>> we had to wait under the

4020
01:43:42,633 --> 01:43:44,769
daytime comes n we have to wai

4021
01:43:44,769 --> 01:43:45,036
t

4022
01:43:45,036 --> 01:43:47,032
for gru to clear it.

4023
01:43:47,032 --> 01:43:49,772
our nighttime crews will go out

4024
01:43:49,772 --> 01:43:49,772


4025
01:43:49,772 --> 01:43:54,282
to a tree downcall.

4026
01:43:54,282 --> 01:43:55,027
if there's no wires in it, the

4027
01:43:55,027 --> 01:43:55,241
y

4028
01:43:55,241 --> 01:43:57,494
will cut it, push it out of th

4029
01:43:57,494 --> 01:43:57,875
e

4030
01:43:57,875 --> 01:43:58,747
roadway and leave.

4031
01:43:58,747 --> 01:44:01,493
they have to get to another

4032
01:44:01,493 --> 01:44:01,493
call.

4033
01:44:01,493 --> 01:44:03,946
our alpha team or daytime team

4034
01:44:03,946 --> 01:44:04,152


4035
01:44:04,152 --> 01:44:05,886
will come in and collect the

4036
01:44:05,886 --> 01:44:08,956
tree debris they left on the

4037
01:44:08,956 --> 01:44:11,263
side of the road, and move on t

4038
01:44:11,263 --> 01:44:11,263
o

4039
01:44:11,263 --> 01:44:15,133
the next location.

4040
01:44:15,133 --> 01:44:16,671
this is one where a tree fell o

4041
01:44:16,671 --> 01:44:16,671
n

4042
01:44:16,671 --> 01:44:17,131
to a car.

4043
01:44:17,131 --> 01:44:19,934
we had to get the tree off the

4044
01:44:19,934 --> 01:44:20,234


4045
01:44:20,234 --> 01:44:22,579
car and out of the roadway, so

4046
01:44:22,579 --> 01:44:22,663


4047
01:44:22,663 --> 01:44:23,299
traffic could continue to flow

4048
01:44:23,299 --> 01:44:23,299


4049
01:44:23,299 --> 01:44:23,544
on that road.

4050
01:44:23,544 --> 01:44:31,780
>> another part of our emergency

4051
01:44:31,780 --> 01:44:31,780


4052
01:44:31,780 --> 01:44:35,692
response investigation is the

4053
01:44:35,692 --> 01:44:35,692


4054
01:44:35,692 --> 01:44:36,284
flood investigation team.

4055
01:44:36,284 --> 01:44:38,248
as I mentioned earlier, we hav

4056
01:44:38,248 --> 01:44:38,539
e

4057
01:44:38,539 --> 01:44:39,713
several creeks in the city, what

4058
01:44:39,713 --> 01:44:39,713


4059
01:44:39,713 --> 01:44:42,256
we do, as they rise, we will

4060
01:44:42,256 --> 01:44:44,169
send teams out to do what we

4061
01:44:44,169 --> 01:44:47,826
call measure downs.

4062
01:44:47,826 --> 01:44:54,096
we can later use that data to

4063
01:44:54,096 --> 01:44:55,976
terpret what storm did we

4064
01:44:55,976 --> 01:44:55,976
have.

4065
01:44:55,976 --> 01:44:57,237
is there something different w

4066
01:44:57,237 --> 01:44:57,400
e

4067
01:44:57,400 --> 01:44:59,086
should be looking at in terms o

4068
01:44:59,086 --> 01:44:59,086
f

4069
01:44:59,086 --> 01:45:01,711
storm water measures.

4070
01:45:01,711 --> 01:45:05,879
so very big effort from that

4071
01:45:05,879 --> 01:45:05,879
team.

4072
01:45:05,879 --> 01:45:09,293
I want to mention to the

4073
01:45:09,293 --> 01:45:10,584
administration efforts, as wit

4074
01:45:10,584 --> 01:45:10,921
h

4075
01:45:10,921 --> 01:45:12,529
any storm event there's a lot o

4076
01:45:12,529 --> 01:45:12,529
f

4077
01:45:12,529 --> 01:45:14,377
paperwork so we can be

4078
01:45:14,377 --> 01:45:16,224
reimbursed by fema.

4079
01:45:16,224 --> 01:45:22,450
it's a huge effort to track all

4080
01:45:22,450 --> 01:45:24,532


4081
01:45:24,532 --> 01:45:26,041
the 211s that we make during th

4082
01:45:26,041 --> 01:45:26,041
e

4083
01:45:26,041 --> 01:45:26,041
event.

4084
01:45:26,041 --> 01:45:28,614
it's a big administrative

4085
01:45:28,614 --> 01:45:31,181
effort, and they do a great job

4086
01:45:31,181 --> 01:45:31,644


4087
01:45:31,644 --> 01:45:31,830
with that.

4088
01:45:31,830 --> 01:45:34,371
the last thing we wanted to

4089
01:45:34,371 --> 01:45:36,225
mention, our special events, w

4090
01:45:36,225 --> 01:45:36,394
e

4091
01:45:36,394 --> 01:45:38,116
have a lot of special events we

4092
01:45:38,116 --> 01:45:38,162


4093
01:45:38,162 --> 01:45:40,441
part in.

4094
01:45:40,441 --> 01:45:45,551
we're currently working on

4095
01:45:45,551 --> 01:45:48,092
something with uaa and uaf for

4096
01:45:48,092 --> 01:45:48,254


4097
01:45:48,254 --> 01:45:49,356
live event assistance.

4098
01:45:49,356 --> 01:45:54,758
that may be coming through

4099
01:45:54,758 --> 01:45:55,117
pretty soon.

4100
01:45:55,117 --> 01:46:02,304
the parade efforts are very coo

4101
01:46:02,304 --> 01:46:02,304
l

4102
01:46:02,304 --> 01:46:03,345
to see.

4103
01:46:03,345 --> 01:46:05,306
and motifs, I can't forget the

4104
01:46:05,306 --> 01:46:05,608


4105
01:46:05,608 --> 01:46:06,277
guys that set it up at the

4106
01:46:06,277 --> 01:46:06,277
beginning.

4107
01:46:06,277 --> 01:46:11,809
it's really interesting to lea

4108
01:46:11,809 --> 01:46:11,809
rn

4109
01:46:11,809 --> 01:46:15,896
about some of the groups or the

4110
01:46:15,896 --> 01:46:16,191


4111
01:46:16,191 --> 01:46:18,382
people that get named for the

4112
01:46:18,382 --> 01:46:18,382


4113
01:46:18,382 --> 01:46:18,928
street naming.

4114
01:46:18,928 --> 01:46:23,096
that's been a super fun part o

4115
01:46:23,096 --> 01:46:23,140
f

4116
01:46:23,140 --> 01:46:24,464
the experience of public works.

4117
01:46:24,464 --> 01:46:24,464


4118
01:46:24,464 --> 01:46:26,059
and that is the end.

4119
01:46:26,059 --> 01:46:28,712
I would like to give a special

4120
01:46:28,712 --> 01:46:28,842


4121
01:46:28,842 --> 01:46:30,787
thank you for the leadership

4122
01:46:30,787 --> 01:46:32,226
team that support me, they are

4123
01:46:32,226 --> 01:46:32,437
a

4124
01:46:32,437 --> 01:46:34,441
fabulous group as you just

4125
01:46:34,441 --> 01:46:34,441
heard.

4126
01:46:34,441 --> 01:46:37,203
there's a lot going onon any

4127
01:46:37,203 --> 01:46:40,172
given day withteam,

4128
01:46:40,172 --> 01:46:40,694
they're always up for the

4129
01:46:40,694 --> 01:46:41,249
challenge, looking to make

4130
01:46:41,249 --> 01:46:41,770
things better in the city.

4131
01:46:41,770 --> 01:46:42,254
>> mayor: thank you.

4132
01:46:42,254 --> 01:46:53,137
>> I have several slides, the

4133
01:46:53,137 --> 01:46:53,137


4134
01:46:53,137 --> 01:46:54,488
budget for tree mitigation,

4135
01:46:54,488 --> 01:46:55,723
that's something, that's just

4136
01:46:55,723 --> 01:46:55,723


4137
01:46:55,723 --> 01:46:57,426
the full amount of the fund, a

4138
01:46:57,426 --> 01:46:57,426
nd

4139
01:46:57,426 --> 01:47:00,030
every year we roll it over as w

4140
01:47:00,030 --> 01:47:00,030
e

4141
01:47:00,030 --> 01:47:02,396
don't spend, correct?

4142
01:47:02,396 --> 01:47:06,100
or is that what we're spending

4143
01:47:06,100 --> 01:47:06,482


4144
01:47:06,482 --> 01:47:10,099
in fy '26?

4145
01:47:10,099 --> 01:47:13,392
>> I'm not sure how to get to I

4146
01:47:13,392 --> 01:47:13,392
t

4147
01:47:13,392 --> 01:47:13,392
quickly.

4148
01:47:13,392 --> 01:47:17,456
>> a budget number of 16

4149
01:47:17,456 --> 01:47:17,456
million?

4150
01:47:17,456 --> 01:47:20,980
>> 6.3 is what it said under

4151
01:47:20,980 --> 01:47:20,980
premitigation.

4152
01:47:20,980 --> 01:47:24,287
it said fund at the top, so I

4153
01:47:24,287 --> 01:47:24,287


4154
01:47:24,287 --> 01:47:25,253
imagine it's the whole fund.

4155
01:47:25,253 --> 01:47:32,178
>> I pulled that straight off

4156
01:47:32,178 --> 01:47:32,178


4157
01:47:32,178 --> 01:47:37,060
the adopted budget number

4158
01:47:37,060 --> 01:47:38,474
current fund total is higher

4159
01:47:38,474 --> 01:47:40,660
than the -- what is that current

4160
01:47:40,660 --> 01:47:40,660


4161
01:47:40,660 --> 01:47:44,903
total, 15, 16?

4162
01:47:44,903 --> 01:47:45,657
>> it's going to be, I would

4163
01:47:45,657 --> 01:47:46,375
have to double check, it would

4164
01:47:46,375 --> 01:47:46,941


4165
01:47:46,941 --> 01:47:48,679
have to be over 12 at this

4166
01:47:48,679 --> 01:47:51,876
point, I would have to double

4167
01:47:51,876 --> 01:47:51,876


4168
01:47:51,876 --> 01:47:51,876
check.

4169
01:47:51,876 --> 01:47:53,583
>> is that what we're planning

4170
01:47:53,583 --> 01:47:55,513


4171
01:47:55,513 --> 01:47:56,318
to --

4172
01:47:56,318 --> 01:47:58,152
>> budget expenditure for this

4173
01:47:58,152 --> 01:47:58,422


4174
01:47:58,422 --> 01:48:00,228
fiscal year, I believe fund

4175
01:48:00,228 --> 01:48:03,588
balance at the end of last

4176
01:48:03,588 --> 01:48:06,563
fiscal year was in the 15 dolla

4177
01:48:06,563 --> 01:48:06,563
r

4178
01:48:06,563 --> 01:48:06,563
range.

4179
01:48:06,563 --> 01:48:09,028
>> it's a big number, I was

4180
01:48:09,028 --> 01:48:10,132
remembering a bigger number, I

4181
01:48:10,132 --> 01:48:10,429


4182
01:48:10,429 --> 01:48:11,707
was trying to remember if

4183
01:48:11,707 --> 01:48:13,279
that -- if we don't close on a

4184
01:48:13,279 --> 01:48:13,667


4185
01:48:13,667 --> 01:48:15,237
property, we didn't manage it,

4186
01:48:15,237 --> 01:48:16,067


4187
01:48:16,067 --> 01:48:17,819
rollover to the next year,

4188
01:48:17,819 --> 01:48:19,774
hopefully, that's just one

4189
01:48:19,774 --> 01:48:21,152
where -- I just wanted to have

4190
01:48:21,152 --> 01:48:21,152


4191
01:48:21,152 --> 01:48:21,884
the understanding.

4192
01:48:21,884 --> 01:48:22,339
thank you.

4193
01:48:22,339 --> 01:48:26,190
and then a deeper question abo

4194
01:48:26,190 --> 01:48:26,190
ut

4195
01:48:26,190 --> 01:48:27,694
under facilities manager, they

4196
01:48:27,694 --> 01:48:28,346


4197
01:48:28,346 --> 01:48:29,851
talked about custodial, we had

4198
01:48:29,851 --> 01:48:30,058


4199
01:48:30,058 --> 01:48:32,715
the conversation last week,

4200
01:48:32,715 --> 01:48:33,527
about who cleans what

4201
01:48:33,527 --> 01:48:34,931
facilities, and because the --

4202
01:48:34,931 --> 01:48:35,121


4203
01:48:35,121 --> 01:48:37,969
one of the potential bills for

4204
01:48:37,969 --> 01:48:38,058


4205
01:48:38,058 --> 01:48:41,730
property tax amendment propose

4206
01:48:41,730 --> 01:48:44,434
d

4207
01:48:44,434 --> 01:48:47,340
wouldn't let us -- first

4208
01:48:47,340 --> 01:48:48,824
responders or police -- is that

4209
01:48:48,824 --> 01:48:49,139


4210
01:48:49,139 --> 01:48:50,534
something where even custodial

4211
01:48:50,534 --> 01:48:50,871


4212
01:48:50,871 --> 01:48:52,206
service should come back under

4213
01:48:52,206 --> 01:48:52,840


4214
01:48:52,840 --> 01:48:54,146
public works?

4215
01:48:54,146 --> 01:48:57,752
because then we have more

4216
01:48:57,752 --> 01:48:59,382
flexibility -- if it's at all

4217
01:48:59,382 --> 01:48:59,382


4218
01:48:59,382 --> 01:49:01,910
being paid for under fire.

4219
01:49:01,910 --> 01:49:03,867
an amendment says you can't

4220
01:49:03,867 --> 01:49:05,293
touch fire's budget, well, you

4221
01:49:05,293 --> 01:49:05,525


4222
01:49:05,525 --> 01:49:07,993
know, and I don't know what the

4223
01:49:07,993 --> 01:49:08,253


4224
01:49:08,253 --> 01:49:09,655
full amendment will envision,

4225
01:49:09,655 --> 01:49:09,655


4226
01:49:09,655 --> 01:49:13,899
but just that kind of looking

4227
01:49:13,899 --> 01:49:13,899


4228
01:49:13,899 --> 01:49:15,695
ahead like do we need to plan

4229
01:49:15,695 --> 01:49:15,695


4230
01:49:15,695 --> 01:49:17,089
now to have flexibility, becau

4231
01:49:17,089 --> 01:49:17,089
se

4232
01:49:17,089 --> 01:49:18,697
the voters may pass something

4233
01:49:18,697 --> 01:49:18,697


4234
01:49:18,697 --> 01:49:22,041
that is quite restrictive in o

4235
01:49:22,041 --> 01:49:22,041
ur

4236
01:49:22,041 --> 01:49:25,397
ability to build the budget.>>

4237
01:49:25,397 --> 01:49:26,146
we're still reviewing the

4238
01:49:26,146 --> 01:49:30,250
bills, the way I read them,

4239
01:49:30,250 --> 01:49:30,986
there's --

4240
01:49:30,986 --> 01:49:31,252
[ inaudible ]

4241
01:49:31,252 --> 01:49:32,362
firefighter in accordance with

4242
01:49:32,362 --> 01:49:32,546


4243
01:49:32,546 --> 01:49:34,611
the definition of state statut

4244
01:49:34,611 --> 01:49:34,611
e.

4245
01:49:34,611 --> 01:49:37,744
emt in coordination with the

4246
01:49:37,744 --> 01:49:38,348
state statute.

4247
01:49:38,348 --> 01:49:40,285
my initial read of it is, no,

4248
01:49:40,285 --> 01:49:40,285


4249
01:49:40,285 --> 01:49:41,624
these employees would not fall

4250
01:49:41,624 --> 01:49:41,624


4251
01:49:41,624 --> 01:49:41,910
under those definitions.

4252
01:49:41,910 --> 01:49:42,599
>> thank you.

4253
01:49:42,599 --> 01:49:48,814
>> good job on in house for

4254
01:49:48,814 --> 01:49:50,059
roadway, and storm water

4255
01:49:50,059 --> 01:49:51,241
projects engineering, it's goo

4256
01:49:51,241 --> 01:49:51,618
d

4257
01:49:51,618 --> 01:49:53,069
to have capacity within the

4258
01:49:53,069 --> 01:49:55,236
city, that's great to hear.

4259
01:49:55,236 --> 01:49:56,805
and then technology.

4260
01:49:56,805 --> 01:49:59,301
and then on page 68 there's som

4261
01:49:59,301 --> 01:49:59,301
e

4262
01:49:59,301 --> 01:50:02,372
budget numbers for, I think, fy

4263
01:50:02,372 --> 01:50:02,776


4264
01:50:02,776 --> 01:50:05,548
'24 that ended in 0, numbers

4265
01:50:05,548 --> 01:50:06,852
that end in 0 aren't real.

4266
01:50:06,852 --> 01:50:09,496
I will follow up on that

4267
01:50:09,496 --> 01:50:09,496
privately.

4268
01:50:09,496 --> 01:50:11,490
>> mayor: thank you so much.

4269
01:50:11,490 --> 01:50:14,016
commissioner chestnut?

4270
01:50:14,016 --> 01:50:16,561
>> I want to compliment you and

4271
01:50:16,561 --> 01:50:16,756


4272
01:50:16,756 --> 01:50:17,966
your staff on the excellent and

4273
01:50:17,966 --> 01:50:18,425


4274
01:50:18,425 --> 01:50:18,965
efficient job you do, in

4275
01:50:18,965 --> 01:50:20,507
delivering service.

4276
01:50:20,507 --> 01:50:22,561
you are a very good face for t

4277
01:50:22,561 --> 01:50:22,561
he

4278
01:50:22,561 --> 01:50:26,273
city, very friendly face, your

4279
01:50:26,273 --> 01:50:26,402


4280
01:50:26,402 --> 01:50:27,830
sidewalk people, your streets

4281
01:50:27,830 --> 01:50:27,830


4282
01:50:27,830 --> 01:50:29,108
people are out there, and peopl

4283
01:50:29,108 --> 01:50:29,108
e

4284
01:50:29,108 --> 01:50:30,055
really appreciate the work tha

4285
01:50:30,055 --> 01:50:30,149
t

4286
01:50:30,149 --> 01:50:30,287
is done.

4287
01:50:30,287 --> 01:50:35,777
and I can't believe 76 request

4288
01:50:35,777 --> 01:50:37,072
s

4289
01:50:37,072 --> 01:50:37,276
per day.

4290
01:50:37,276 --> 01:50:37,595
that's a lot.

4291
01:50:37,595 --> 01:50:38,461
so thank you.

4292
01:50:38,461 --> 01:50:39,031
thank you for your service.

4293
01:50:39,031 --> 01:50:39,419
>> thank you.

4294
01:50:39,419 --> 01:50:43,684
>> mayor: commissioner chestnut,

4295
01:50:43,684 --> 01:50:43,684


4296
01:50:43,684 --> 01:50:45,213
commissioner duncan walker?

4297
01:50:45,213 --> 01:50:46,956
>> thank you, mr. Mayor.

4298
01:50:46,956 --> 01:50:49,422
and thank you, miss mowry and

4299
01:50:49,422 --> 01:50:49,422


4300
01:50:49,422 --> 01:50:50,936
staff for really good and

4301
01:50:50,936 --> 01:50:52,513
informative presentation.

4302
01:50:52,513 --> 01:50:57,028
I want to start off with a

4303
01:50:57,028 --> 01:50:57,028
compliment.

4304
01:50:57,028 --> 01:51:01,876
a group from public works was

4305
01:51:01,876 --> 01:51:01,876


4306
01:51:01,876 --> 01:51:06,440
traveling down a particular roa

4307
01:51:06,440 --> 01:51:06,440
d

4308
01:51:06,440 --> 01:51:07,326
where my mother engaged with

4309
01:51:07,326 --> 01:51:07,326
them.

4310
01:51:07,326 --> 01:51:10,343
she shared this with me.

4311
01:51:10,343 --> 01:51:12,242
she had a wonderful experience

4312
01:51:12,242 --> 01:51:16,446


4313
01:51:16,446 --> 01:51:17,955
with the tree crew I want to

4314
01:51:17,955 --> 01:51:19,752
shout them out and say what a

4315
01:51:19,752 --> 01:51:19,752


4316
01:51:19,752 --> 01:51:20,690
great service they provided.

4317
01:51:20,690 --> 01:51:22,489
tree limbs were over into a

4318
01:51:22,489 --> 01:51:25,481
particular yard.

4319
01:51:25,481 --> 01:51:27,100
and that's not what they were

4320
01:51:27,100 --> 01:51:27,100


4321
01:51:27,100 --> 01:51:27,761
out there to do.

4322
01:51:27,761 --> 01:51:30,808
but they responded in the mom

4323
01:51:30,808 --> 01:51:34,154
to the neighbors, and took car

4324
01:51:34,154 --> 01:51:34,238
e

4325
01:51:34,238 --> 01:51:36,103
of some tree limbs and some

4326
01:51:36,103 --> 01:51:37,984
debris that had fallen into

4327
01:51:37,984 --> 01:51:39,336
neighboring yards, thank you

4328
01:51:39,336 --> 01:51:41,469
very much for a responsive,

4329
01:51:41,469 --> 01:51:42,116
professional and kind team.

4330
01:51:42,116 --> 01:51:42,529
thank you.

4331
01:51:42,529 --> 01:51:44,716
I have maybe two questions, I

4332
01:51:44,716 --> 01:51:44,716


4333
01:51:44,716 --> 01:51:44,716
believe.

4334
01:51:44,716 --> 01:51:53,322
back to page 7 where your slide

4335
01:51:53,322 --> 01:51:53,506


4336
01:51:53,506 --> 01:51:57,924
is with regards to the budget.

4337
01:51:57,924 --> 01:51:57,924


4338
01:51:57,924 --> 01:52:00,095
I believe there was a number o

4339
01:52:00,095 --> 01:52:00,463
f

4340
01:52:00,463 --> 01:52:02,104
$2 million that's allotted for

4341
01:52:02,104 --> 01:52:03,933


4342
01:52:03,933 --> 01:52:03,933
resurfacing.

4343
01:52:03,933 --> 01:52:05,904
and my question is just this, I

4344
01:52:05,904 --> 01:52:06,040


4345
01:52:06,040 --> 01:52:08,370
know we do the resurfacing out

4346
01:52:08,370 --> 01:52:08,598


4347
01:52:08,598 --> 01:52:09,699
at the gas tax as well.

4348
01:52:09,699 --> 01:52:11,173
that number is different from

4349
01:52:11,173 --> 01:52:11,173


4350
01:52:11,173 --> 01:52:11,173
this.

4351
01:52:11,173 --> 01:52:15,260
these are two separate pots of

4352
01:52:15,260 --> 01:52:15,260


4353
01:52:15,260 --> 01:52:16,740
money we chose, where we do our

4354
01:52:16,740 --> 01:52:17,579


4355
01:52:17,579 --> 01:52:17,931
resurfacing from?

4356
01:52:17,931 --> 01:52:21,498
>> yes, we have a pavement

4357
01:52:21,498 --> 01:52:22,304
preservation program, every

4358
01:52:22,304 --> 01:52:24,525
year, the plan is for us to --

4359
01:52:24,525 --> 01:52:24,614


4360
01:52:24,614 --> 01:52:24,886
on newer roads.

4361
01:52:24,886 --> 01:52:31,546
we'll use rejuvenator product.

4362
01:52:31,546 --> 01:52:31,546


4363
01:52:31,546 --> 01:52:35,023
that helps extend the life of

4364
01:52:35,023 --> 01:52:35,023


4365
01:52:35,023 --> 01:52:35,996
that newer section of road.

4366
01:52:35,996 --> 01:52:37,902
we'll look at other roads,

4367
01:52:37,902 --> 01:52:39,406
that's where he mentioned the

4368
01:52:39,406 --> 01:52:39,406


4369
01:52:39,406 --> 01:52:42,470
dot software, which we're now

4370
01:52:42,470 --> 01:52:42,470


4371
01:52:42,470 --> 01:52:44,205
using, it will predict out wha

4372
01:52:44,205 --> 01:52:44,378
t

4373
01:52:44,378 --> 01:52:48,971
we need to do in terms of road

4374
01:52:48,971 --> 01:52:48,971


4375
01:52:48,971 --> 01:52:48,971
maintenance.

4376
01:52:48,971 --> 01:52:52,614
which roads do we need to look

4377
01:52:52,614 --> 01:52:53,121


4378
01:52:53,121 --> 01:52:53,512
at --

4379
01:52:53,512 --> 01:52:53,826
[ inaudible ]

4380
01:52:53,826 --> 01:52:56,411
and we set aside a certain

4381
01:52:56,411 --> 01:52:57,952
amount of money for that, which

4382
01:52:57,952 --> 01:52:58,279


4383
01:52:58,279 --> 01:52:59,390
will involve some sort of

4384
01:52:59,390 --> 01:53:01,150
repaving, and we also have par

4385
01:53:01,150 --> 01:53:01,440
t

4386
01:53:01,440 --> 01:53:04,128
of that 2 million, we'll have

4387
01:53:04,128 --> 01:53:04,128


4388
01:53:04,128 --> 01:53:05,630
associated concrete work,

4389
01:53:05,630 --> 01:53:06,597
whether it's curb or ada ramp

4390
01:53:06,597 --> 01:53:06,597


4391
01:53:06,597 --> 01:53:06,597
maybe.

4392
01:53:06,597 --> 01:53:16,105
>> yes, that's correct, exactly

4393
01:53:16,105 --> 01:53:16,321


4394
01:53:16,321 --> 01:53:16,932
what we were saying.

4395
01:53:16,932 --> 01:53:19,176
the $2 million here for roadway

4396
01:53:19,176 --> 01:53:19,956


4397
01:53:19,956 --> 01:53:21,143
resurfacing, is a transfer fro

4398
01:53:21,143 --> 01:53:21,945
m

4399
01:53:21,945 --> 01:53:26,010
solid waste for damage done by

4400
01:53:26,010 --> 01:53:26,253


4401
01:53:26,253 --> 01:53:26,847
the trash trucks.

4402
01:53:26,847 --> 01:53:28,553
this comes from the solid waste

4403
01:53:28,553 --> 01:53:28,718


4404
01:53:28,718 --> 01:53:32,226
and transfers to the roadways.

4405
01:53:32,226 --> 01:53:32,226


4406
01:53:32,226 --> 01:53:35,017
>> thank you very much for that

4407
01:53:35,017 --> 01:53:35,017
.

4408
01:53:35,017 --> 01:53:36,627
this software that we have, am

4409
01:53:36,627 --> 01:53:36,894
I

4410
01:53:36,894 --> 01:53:38,561
hearing that the software is

4411
01:53:38,561 --> 01:53:40,798
doing the prioritization of th

4412
01:53:40,798 --> 01:53:41,327
e

4413
01:53:41,327 --> 01:53:41,327
streets?

4414
01:53:41,327 --> 01:53:43,233
or how are we prioritizing?

4415
01:53:43,233 --> 01:53:46,501
>> yes, so we -- basically, the

4416
01:53:46,501 --> 01:53:46,639


4417
01:53:46,639 --> 01:53:49,233
first cut at it, our pavement

4418
01:53:49,233 --> 01:53:49,233


4419
01:53:49,233 --> 01:53:49,839
condition index.

4420
01:53:49,839 --> 01:53:52,015
the pci, what's the rating of

4421
01:53:52,015 --> 01:53:52,015


4422
01:53:52,015 --> 01:53:52,303
the road.

4423
01:53:52,303 --> 01:53:57,343
we also have the sbi, the socia

4424
01:53:57,343 --> 01:53:57,343
l

4425
01:53:57,343 --> 01:53:59,745
vulnerability index is also put

4426
01:53:59,745 --> 01:54:00,102


4427
01:54:00,102 --> 01:54:03,823
into that scenario, so it's a -

4428
01:54:03,823 --> 01:54:03,823
-

4429
01:54:03,823 --> 01:54:06,587
in the end, it's 80% functional

4430
01:54:06,587 --> 01:54:06,927


4431
01:54:06,927 --> 01:54:09,365
class, and pci is factored int

4432
01:54:09,365 --> 01:54:09,829
o

4433
01:54:09,829 --> 01:54:12,112
that and 20% sbi to determine

4434
01:54:12,112 --> 01:54:12,112


4435
01:54:12,112 --> 01:54:14,558
what we call the krit kalety

4436
01:54:14,558 --> 01:54:14,558
score.

4437
01:54:14,558 --> 01:54:17,705
and then what the team will do

4438
01:54:17,705 --> 01:54:17,885


4439
01:54:17,885 --> 01:54:18,162
from there.

4440
01:54:18,162 --> 01:54:20,669
we look at it on a map, and loo

4441
01:54:20,669 --> 01:54:20,669
k

4442
01:54:20,669 --> 01:54:22,832
at it in the field to assess,

4443
01:54:22,832 --> 01:54:22,832


4444
01:54:22,832 --> 01:54:24,112
and make sure that what's being

4445
01:54:24,112 --> 01:54:25,305


4446
01:54:25,305 --> 01:54:26,346
predicted by the program is wha

4447
01:54:26,346 --> 01:54:26,346
t

4448
01:54:26,346 --> 01:54:29,109
we should be doing, and so

4449
01:54:29,109 --> 01:54:31,949
generally speaking, as we use

4450
01:54:31,949 --> 01:54:31,949


4451
01:54:31,949 --> 01:54:33,517
this program multiple years in

4452
01:54:33,517 --> 01:54:33,648
a

4453
01:54:33,648 --> 01:54:36,151
row, it will become more

4454
01:54:36,151 --> 01:54:37,679
predictable, we will be able to

4455
01:54:37,679 --> 01:54:37,816


4456
01:54:37,816 --> 01:54:39,991
better set or just, where we s

4457
01:54:39,991 --> 01:54:39,991
ee

4458
01:54:39,991 --> 01:54:42,284
there may be an error in the

4459
01:54:42,284 --> 01:54:42,284
program.

4460
01:54:42,284 --> 01:54:43,992
it's brand program for us, and

4461
01:54:43,992 --> 01:54:44,120


4462
01:54:44,120 --> 01:54:45,362
we're still working out some o

4463
01:54:45,362 --> 01:54:45,407
f

4464
01:54:45,407 --> 01:54:45,766
the bugs.

4465
01:54:45,766 --> 01:54:48,587
that is the plan.

4466
01:54:48,587 --> 01:54:50,699
>> is it safe for me or this

4467
01:54:50,699 --> 01:54:51,640
commission to assume that -- I

4468
01:54:51,640 --> 01:54:51,738


4469
01:54:51,738 --> 01:54:53,801
mean, obviously, your

4470
01:54:53,801 --> 01:54:55,135
professional expertise will

4471
01:54:55,135 --> 01:54:56,573
override any glitches that you

4472
01:54:56,573 --> 01:54:56,737


4473
01:54:56,737 --> 01:54:57,299
see in the system.

4474
01:54:57,299 --> 01:54:59,724
because I mean, I -- software I

4475
01:54:59,724 --> 01:54:59,724
s

4476
01:54:59,724 --> 01:55:01,769
wonderful and it's helpful, but

4477
01:55:01,769 --> 01:55:01,975


4478
01:55:01,975 --> 01:55:05,145
there is nothing in my mind tha

4479
01:55:05,145 --> 01:55:05,145
t

4480
01:55:05,145 --> 01:55:08,093
can substitute for a human eye

4481
01:55:08,093 --> 01:55:08,211


4482
01:55:08,211 --> 01:55:12,455
on a lot of these situations

4483
01:55:12,455 --> 01:55:13,596
that hear from community et

4484
01:55:13,596 --> 01:55:13,596
cetera.

4485
01:55:13,596 --> 01:55:15,571
you all will be making final

4486
01:55:15,571 --> 01:55:16,987
decisions, and especially since

4487
01:55:16,987 --> 01:55:16,987


4488
01:55:16,987 --> 01:55:19,161
this is new, we will be relying

4489
01:55:19,161 --> 01:55:19,363


4490
01:55:19,363 --> 01:55:19,923
on you now?

4491
01:55:19,923 --> 01:55:22,069
>> what will be relying on me

4492
01:55:22,069 --> 01:55:22,069


4493
01:55:22,069 --> 01:55:22,069
now?

4494
01:55:22,069 --> 01:55:23,634
>> in other words, you're not

4495
01:55:23,634 --> 01:55:23,634


4496
01:55:23,634 --> 01:55:25,227
solely relying on the software

4497
01:55:25,227 --> 01:55:25,227
.

4498
01:55:25,227 --> 01:55:26,501
you're going to be making these

4499
01:55:26,501 --> 01:55:26,731


4500
01:55:26,731 --> 01:55:28,395
egs doeses as human beings

4501
01:55:28,395 --> 01:55:28,395
first?

4502
01:55:28,395 --> 01:55:29,503
>> that is correct.

4503
01:55:29,503 --> 01:55:32,071
we will definitely be taking

4504
01:55:32,071 --> 01:55:33,609
what the software gives us, and

4505
01:55:33,609 --> 01:55:33,871


4506
01:55:33,871 --> 01:55:35,913
then, does that make sense, and

4507
01:55:35,913 --> 01:55:36,043


4508
01:55:36,043 --> 01:55:36,371
ground truth.

4509
01:55:36,371 --> 01:55:39,185
and also look at mapping?

4510
01:55:39,185 --> 01:55:40,618
where are the numbers hitting,

4511
01:55:40,618 --> 01:55:41,084


4512
01:55:41,084 --> 01:55:43,993
and trying to make sure we stay

4513
01:55:43,993 --> 01:55:43,993


4514
01:55:43,993 --> 01:55:43,993
distributed.

4515
01:55:43,993 --> 01:55:46,081
but also, incorporating in the

4516
01:55:46,081 --> 01:55:46,081


4517
01:55:46,081 --> 01:55:46,081
sbi.

4518
01:55:46,081 --> 01:55:47,987
>> thank you.

4519
01:55:47,987 --> 01:55:50,387
>> you're welcome.

4520
01:55:50,387 --> 01:55:53,167
>> mayor: thank you,

4521
01:55:53,167 --> 01:55:53,991
commissioner duncan walker.

4522
01:55:53,991 --> 01:55:56,398
madam clerk, do we have any

4523
01:55:56,398 --> 01:55:59,343
public commeon this?

4524
01:55:59,343 --> 01:56:00,689
>> no public comment on this.

4525
01:56:00,689 --> 01:56:01,968
>> mayor: thank you all for wha

4526
01:56:01,968 --> 01:56:01,968
t

4527
01:56:01,968 --> 01:56:02,399
you do.

4528
01:56:02,399 --> 01:56:03,572
we appreciate you spending the

4529
01:56:03,572 --> 01:56:03,572


4530
01:56:03,572 --> 01:56:03,920
time with us today.

4531
01:56:03,920 --> 01:56:07,278
>> thank you.

4532
01:56:07,278 --> 01:56:08,341
>> mayor: madam clerk.

4533
01:56:08,341 --> 01:56:13,485
>> we're on to our next item,

4534
01:56:13,485 --> 01:56:13,485


4535
01:56:13,485 --> 01:56:19,857
2026-235 request to amend budge

4536
01:56:19,857 --> 01:56:19,857
t

4537
01:56:19,857 --> 01:56:23,921
for office of city auditor, to

4538
01:56:23,921 --> 01:56:24,357


4539
01:56:24,357 --> 01:56:25,657
authorize the office of

4540
01:56:25,657 --> 01:56:26,928
management and budget to amend

4541
01:56:26,928 --> 01:56:27,206


4542
01:56:27,206 --> 01:56:28,974
the city auditor's office

4543
01:56:28,974 --> 01:56:28,974
budget.

4544
01:56:28,974 --> 01:56:31,833
>> mayor: welcome mr. Auditor.

4545
01:56:31,833 --> 01:56:31,833


4546
01:56:31,833 --> 01:56:35,680
>> good morning, mr. Mayor,

4547
01:56:35,680 --> 01:56:36,709
members of the city commission

4548
01:56:36,709 --> 01:56:36,709
.

4549
01:56:36,709 --> 01:56:38,181
I'm the city auditor.

4550
01:56:38,181 --> 01:56:40,769
I do not have any presentation

4551
01:56:40,769 --> 01:56:41,371


4552
01:56:41,371 --> 01:56:44,377
slides, I don't intend for thi

4553
01:56:44,377 --> 01:56:44,643
s

4554
01:56:44,643 --> 01:56:45,075
to be long.

4555
01:56:45,075 --> 01:56:46,623
and also, prior to this meeting,

4556
01:56:46,623 --> 01:56:46,623


4557
01:56:46,623 --> 01:56:49,452
I have held one on one decisio

4558
01:56:49,452 --> 01:56:49,452
ns

4559
01:56:49,452 --> 01:56:51,891
with each and every member of

4560
01:56:51,891 --> 01:56:51,891


4561
01:56:51,891 --> 01:56:53,755
the city commission and each a

4562
01:56:53,755 --> 01:56:53,755
nd

4563
01:56:53,755 --> 01:56:55,227
every member of the city

4564
01:56:55,227 --> 01:56:57,421
commission knows my request.

4565
01:56:57,421 --> 01:57:01,937
the office of the city is

4566
01:57:01,937 --> 01:57:02,915
helping us better carry out the

4567
01:57:02,915 --> 01:57:03,003


4568
01:57:03,003 --> 01:57:03,003
office.

4569
01:57:03,003 --> 01:57:08,657
we're asking for an amount of

4570
01:57:08,657 --> 01:57:08,657


4571
01:57:08,657 --> 01:57:10,202
$45,000 to do two things.

4572
01:57:10,202 --> 01:57:11,943
we would like to be able to use

4573
01:57:11,943 --> 01:57:12,071


4574
01:57:12,071 --> 01:57:14,273
the services of private internal

4575
01:57:14,273 --> 01:57:14,273


4576
01:57:14,273 --> 01:57:15,475
audit consulting firms.

4577
01:57:15,475 --> 01:57:20,323
in this process, we go out to

4578
01:57:20,323 --> 01:57:20,323


4579
01:57:20,323 --> 01:57:23,985
ask external auditors to come I

4580
01:57:23,985 --> 01:57:23,985
n

4581
01:57:23,985 --> 01:57:26,189
and work with us on projects n

4582
01:57:26,189 --> 01:57:26,455


4583
01:57:26,455 --> 01:57:33,893
an approach we call cost

4584
01:57:33,893 --> 01:57:33,893
servicing.

4585
01:57:33,893 --> 01:57:36,585
this helps us to move along in

4586
01:57:36,585 --> 01:57:37,563


4587
01:57:37,563 --> 01:57:38,891
our -- in the incorporation of

4588
01:57:38,891 --> 01:57:38,891


4589
01:57:38,891 --> 01:57:39,383
the audit plan.

4590
01:57:39,383 --> 01:57:41,263
the other thing we'd like to be

4591
01:57:41,263 --> 01:57:41,347


4592
01:57:41,347 --> 01:57:43,171
able to do with this amendment

4593
01:57:43,171 --> 01:57:44,369


4594
01:57:44,369 --> 01:57:47,035
is to promote a member in our

4595
01:57:47,035 --> 01:57:47,035


4596
01:57:47,035 --> 01:57:48,842
office who is now a staff

4597
01:57:48,842 --> 01:57:51,445
auditor to the position of

4598
01:57:51,445 --> 01:57:53,211
senior internal auditor.

4599
01:57:53,211 --> 01:57:56,849
let me pull this up for you to

4600
01:57:56,849 --> 01:57:56,849


4601
01:57:56,849 --> 01:57:56,849
see.

4602
01:57:56,849 --> 01:58:03,465
this is the organizational cha

4603
01:58:03,465 --> 01:58:03,465
rt

4604
01:58:03,465 --> 01:58:07,321
of the city office.

4605
01:58:07,321 --> 01:58:09,805
the red that you see is the

4606
01:58:09,805 --> 01:58:11,927
senior auditor position, at thi

4607
01:58:11,927 --> 01:58:11,927
s

4608
01:58:11,927 --> 01:58:13,401
time it is not funded.

4609
01:58:13,401 --> 01:58:15,701
we have it, but it's frozen.

4610
01:58:15,701 --> 01:58:17,701
on this side -- what I'm tryin

4611
01:58:17,701 --> 01:58:17,970
g

4612
01:58:17,970 --> 01:58:21,045
to do is to move the staff

4613
01:58:21,045 --> 01:58:22,899
auditor from being staff audit

4614
01:58:22,899 --> 01:58:22,899
or

4615
01:58:22,899 --> 01:58:24,623
from the position to the

4616
01:58:24,623 --> 01:58:25,741
position of senior auditor.

4617
01:58:25,741 --> 01:58:27,386
he's been with us for close to

4618
01:58:27,386 --> 01:58:27,479


4619
01:58:27,479 --> 01:58:32,817
four years now.

4620
01:58:32,817 --> 01:58:34,691
he's a good auditor.

4621
01:58:34,691 --> 01:58:36,158
during the time he's been with

4622
01:58:36,158 --> 01:58:36,488


4623
01:58:36,488 --> 01:58:39,869
us, he's been able to get his

4624
01:58:39,869 --> 01:58:39,869


4625
01:58:39,869 --> 01:58:40,198
auditor qualification.

4626
01:58:40,198 --> 01:58:42,419
he's a cia internal auditor.

4627
01:58:42,419 --> 01:58:46,831
the qualification is an

4628
01:58:46,831 --> 01:58:48,519
international qualification.

4629
01:58:48,519 --> 01:58:49,801
international credential.

4630
01:58:49,801 --> 01:58:52,167
that means, wherever he goes,

4631
01:58:52,167 --> 01:58:52,167


4632
01:58:52,167 --> 01:58:53,702
he's recognized as a competent

4633
01:58:53,702 --> 01:58:54,034


4634
01:58:54,034 --> 01:58:54,034
auditor.

4635
01:58:54,034 --> 01:58:58,483
I would like to ask you to

4636
01:58:58,483 --> 01:59:00,056
unfreeze the senior auditor

4637
01:59:00,056 --> 01:59:05,749
position, to enable me to move

4638
01:59:05,749 --> 01:59:06,818


4639
01:59:06,818 --> 01:59:10,719
the stuff into that, I would a

4640
01:59:10,719 --> 01:59:10,719
sk

4641
01:59:10,719 --> 01:59:13,693
you to freeze the staff auditor

4642
01:59:13,693 --> 01:59:13,993


4643
01:59:13,993 --> 01:59:15,967
position that we continue to

4644
01:59:15,967 --> 01:59:15,967
have.

4645
01:59:15,967 --> 01:59:17,755
one that is not funded but

4646
01:59:17,755 --> 01:59:18,279
available to us at any time.

4647
01:59:18,279 --> 01:59:25,599
I would like to mention, again,

4648
01:59:25,599 --> 01:59:25,985


4649
01:59:25,985 --> 01:59:27,343
I mention that we're asking for

4650
01:59:27,343 --> 01:59:29,678


4651
01:59:29,678 --> 01:59:29,678
$45,000.

4652
01:59:29,678 --> 01:59:36,551
this year, fiscal fy '26, my

4653
01:59:36,551 --> 01:59:39,456
office absorbed a 6% reduction

4654
01:59:39,456 --> 01:59:39,759


4655
01:59:39,759 --> 01:59:40,396
in its budget.

4656
01:59:40,396 --> 01:59:44,803
if you approve this request I'm

4657
01:59:44,803 --> 01:59:45,361


4658
01:59:45,361 --> 01:59:49,131
making now, my office will sti

4659
01:59:49,131 --> 01:59:49,131
ll

4660
01:59:49,131 --> 01:59:54,039
have absorbed 11.6% in the

4661
01:59:54,039 --> 01:59:56,599
reduction of budget from last

4662
01:59:56,599 --> 01:59:56,599


4663
01:59:56,599 --> 02:00:01,271
year, so we are still in

4664
02:00:01,271 --> 02:00:02,386
difficult budgetary times.

4665
02:00:02,386 --> 02:00:06,647
but still, 45,000 does does not

4666
02:00:06,647 --> 02:00:06,776


4667
02:00:06,776 --> 02:00:08,653
mean all of a sudden, we're not

4668
02:00:08,653 --> 02:00:12,016


4669
02:00:12,016 --> 02:00:13,617
contributing to trying to

4670
02:00:13,617 --> 02:00:14,863
ameliorate the problems we're

4671
02:00:14,863 --> 02:00:14,863


4672
02:00:14,863 --> 02:00:16,326
having in our city budgets.

4673
02:00:16,326 --> 02:00:17,656
that is the position we am be,

4674
02:00:17,656 --> 02:00:18,032


4675
02:00:18,032 --> 02:00:23,198
if you approve this

4676
02:00:23,198 --> 02:00:23,198
recommendation.

4677
02:00:23,198 --> 02:00:24,980
in the document o taking that I

4678
02:00:24,980 --> 02:00:24,980


4679
02:00:24,980 --> 02:00:26,016
have, you will find all of this

4680
02:00:26,016 --> 02:00:26,016
,

4681
02:00:26,016 --> 02:00:31,200
you will find a little bit of

4682
02:00:31,200 --> 02:00:31,200


4683
02:00:31,200 --> 02:00:35,569
some numbers that we have

4684
02:00:35,569 --> 02:00:36,943
alongside our budget office, t

4685
02:00:36,943 --> 02:00:37,243
o

4686
02:00:37,243 --> 02:00:39,449
show you how much will go towar

4687
02:00:39,449 --> 02:00:39,449
d

4688
02:00:39,449 --> 02:00:41,850
funding the senior auditor

4689
02:00:41,850 --> 02:00:42,579
position if it happens.

4690
02:00:42,579 --> 02:00:46,856
you will also find that I

4691
02:00:46,856 --> 02:00:48,197
provided some descriptions of

4692
02:00:48,197 --> 02:00:48,197


4693
02:00:48,197 --> 02:00:52,658
the jobs of senior auditor.

4694
02:00:52,658 --> 02:00:53,018
staff auditor.

4695
02:00:53,018 --> 02:01:01,436
you have it with you, other tha

4696
02:01:01,436 --> 02:01:01,436
n

4697
02:01:01,436 --> 02:01:01,436
that.

4698
02:01:01,436 --> 02:01:03,404
unless you have any questions,

4699
02:01:03,404 --> 02:01:04,017
I

4700
02:01:04,017 --> 02:01:06,436
would like to ask for you to

4701
02:01:06,436 --> 02:01:07,472
approve my request.

4702
02:01:07,472 --> 02:01:08,859
>> mayor okay, any questions o

4703
02:01:08,859 --> 02:01:08,859
r

4704
02:01:08,859 --> 02:01:13,577
a motion or anything?

4705
02:01:13,577 --> 02:01:14,872
commissioner eastman?

4706
02:01:14,872 --> 02:01:16,916
>> yes, thank you.

4707
02:01:16,916 --> 02:01:20,258
it seems to me like we -- that

4708
02:01:20,258 --> 02:01:20,538


4709
02:01:20,538 --> 02:01:22,052
this is -- as you said, you've

4710
02:01:22,052 --> 02:01:22,425


4711
02:01:22,425 --> 02:01:23,652
split this up into two, right?

4712
02:01:23,652 --> 02:01:23,652


4713
02:01:23,652 --> 02:01:26,351
one of which is about fte's and

4714
02:01:26,351 --> 02:01:26,571


4715
02:01:26,571 --> 02:01:28,265
how you would like to structure

4716
02:01:28,265 --> 02:01:28,661


4717
02:01:28,661 --> 02:01:30,971
your fte's internally, which I

4718
02:01:30,971 --> 02:01:31,129


4719
02:01:31,129 --> 02:01:33,501
think is a conversation that -

4720
02:01:33,501 --> 02:01:34,033
-

4721
02:01:34,033 --> 02:01:35,964
we froze about 30 positions las

4722
02:01:35,964 --> 02:01:35,964
t

4723
02:01:35,964 --> 02:01:35,964
time.

4724
02:01:35,964 --> 02:01:38,267
do we want to continue to have

4725
02:01:38,267 --> 02:01:38,398


4726
02:01:38,398 --> 02:01:40,819
those frozen, do we eliminate

4727
02:01:40,819 --> 02:01:40,819


4728
02:01:40,819 --> 02:01:43,139
these positions, how do we rig

4729
02:01:43,139 --> 02:01:43,139
ht

4730
02:01:43,139 --> 02:01:43,961
size departments.

4731
02:01:43,961 --> 02:01:45,810
having a stock of frozen

4732
02:01:45,810 --> 02:01:46,778
positions that are held year

4733
02:01:46,778 --> 02:01:48,180
over year, doesn't make a lot o

4734
02:01:48,180 --> 02:01:48,180
f

4735
02:01:48,180 --> 02:01:49,749
sense, and it would make sense

4736
02:01:49,749 --> 02:01:50,129


4737
02:01:50,129 --> 02:01:52,050
in the budget cycle to look at

4738
02:01:52,050 --> 02:01:52,282
,

4739
02:01:52,282 --> 02:01:55,528
what positions do we want

4740
02:01:55,528 --> 02:01:55,528
going-forward.

4741
02:01:55,528 --> 02:01:58,556
because we're looking at a

4742
02:01:58,556 --> 02:01:59,853
budget gap, does it make sense.

4743
02:01:59,853 --> 02:01:59,853


4744
02:01:59,853 --> 02:02:01,561
setting that to the side, the

4745
02:02:01,561 --> 02:02:01,561


4746
02:02:01,561 --> 02:02:04,512
other one is the expansion of

4747
02:02:04,512 --> 02:02:04,512


4748
02:02:04,512 --> 02:02:06,635
the auditor's ability to do mor

4749
02:02:06,635 --> 02:02:06,635
e

4750
02:02:06,635 --> 02:02:08,842
of the audits, I'll say that -

4751
02:02:08,842 --> 02:02:09,237
-

4752
02:02:09,237 --> 02:02:11,144
you have a very aggressive aud

4753
02:02:11,144 --> 02:02:11,144
it

4754
02:02:11,144 --> 02:02:13,205
plan that you guys were looking

4755
02:02:13,205 --> 02:02:13,608


4756
02:02:13,608 --> 02:02:14,410
at in increasing the

4757
02:02:14,410 --> 02:02:19,005
>> that is correct.

4758
02:02:19,005 --> 02:02:20,652
we have 10 audit topics on the

4759
02:02:20,652 --> 02:02:20,844


4760
02:02:20,844 --> 02:02:21,620
awed it the plan.

4761
02:02:21,620 --> 02:02:23,913
this time the mayor already

4762
02:02:23,913 --> 02:02:24,811
mentioned the fact that we have

4763
02:02:24,811 --> 02:02:24,811


4764
02:02:24,811 --> 02:02:26,252
some items on the consent

4765
02:02:26,252 --> 02:02:26,252
agenda.

4766
02:02:26,252 --> 02:02:28,260
two of these items are audits

4767
02:02:28,260 --> 02:02:28,260


4768
02:02:28,260 --> 02:02:28,535
that we completed.

4769
02:02:28,535 --> 02:02:29,091
>> right.

4770
02:02:29,091 --> 02:02:29,091


4771
02:02:29,091 --> 02:02:34,496
>> we are currently working on

4772
02:02:34,496 --> 02:02:34,631


4773
02:02:34,631 --> 02:02:36,725
two audits that we hope to

4774
02:02:36,725 --> 02:02:38,292
complete by june in the next

4775
02:02:38,292 --> 02:02:38,984
audit committee meeting.

4776
02:02:38,984 --> 02:02:40,899
we would like to do more.

4777
02:02:40,899 --> 02:02:42,273
we have an internal performance

4778
02:02:42,273 --> 02:02:43,070


4779
02:02:43,070 --> 02:02:45,071
metric of 85% completion of our

4780
02:02:45,071 --> 02:02:47,582


4781
02:02:47,582 --> 02:02:47,842
audit plan.

4782
02:02:47,842 --> 02:02:50,743
that is very aggressive.

4783
02:02:50,743 --> 02:02:52,314
we might not be able to hit

4784
02:02:52,314 --> 02:02:54,259
that, but we want to be able to

4785
02:02:54,259 --> 02:02:54,416


4786
02:02:54,416 --> 02:02:54,771
move towards it.

4787
02:02:54,771 --> 02:03:00,752
there are certain performance

4788
02:03:00,752 --> 02:03:00,752


4789
02:03:00,752 --> 02:03:03,920
levels that cause people to

4790
02:03:03,920 --> 02:03:04,682
wonder what's going on.

4791
02:03:04,682 --> 02:03:08,233
I'll just put it that way.

4792
02:03:08,233 --> 02:03:10,798
if you, say, complete only 50%

4793
02:03:10,798 --> 02:03:11,725


4794
02:03:11,725 --> 02:03:13,996
of your audit plan, this is jus

4795
02:03:13,996 --> 02:03:13,996
t

4796
02:03:13,996 --> 02:03:16,263
a number I'm just throwing,

4797
02:03:16,263 --> 02:03:19,108
compared to, say, 80% of the

4798
02:03:19,108 --> 02:03:20,475
audit plan, people might begin

4799
02:03:20,475 --> 02:03:20,837


4800
02:03:20,837 --> 02:03:22,838
to think -- and by people, I

4801
02:03:22,838 --> 02:03:24,475
mean industry experts, people

4802
02:03:24,475 --> 02:03:24,475


4803
02:03:24,475 --> 02:03:25,646
might think, there has to be

4804
02:03:25,646 --> 02:03:26,608
some reason why this is the

4805
02:03:26,608 --> 02:03:26,608
case.

4806
02:03:26,608 --> 02:03:30,043
when they do that and whethey

4807
02:03:30,043 --> 02:03:30,043


4808
02:03:30,043 --> 02:03:30,560
have those thoughts, when tito

4809
02:03:30,560 --> 02:03:32,518
be audited like

4810
02:03:32,518 --> 02:03:35,120
we are here, late last year, w

4811
02:03:35,120 --> 02:03:35,552
e

4812
02:03:35,552 --> 02:03:37,192
begin to look into that to fin

4813
02:03:37,192 --> 02:03:37,420
d

4814
02:03:37,420 --> 02:03:38,559
out exactly why that is the

4815
02:03:38,559 --> 02:03:38,559
case.

4816
02:03:38,559 --> 02:03:40,838
and we don't want that to

4817
02:03:40,838 --> 02:03:40,838
happen.

4818
02:03:40,838 --> 02:03:42,232
that is why we want to move as

4819
02:03:42,232 --> 02:03:43,091


4820
02:03:43,091 --> 02:03:43,964
aggressively as we can, as muc

4821
02:03:43,964 --> 02:03:44,328
h

4822
02:03:44,328 --> 02:03:44,593
as we can.

4823
02:03:44,593 --> 02:03:46,800
>> why does a gap between what

4824
02:03:46,800 --> 02:03:46,932


4825
02:03:46,932 --> 02:03:49,235
we had our audit plan versus

4826
02:03:49,235 --> 02:03:50,208
what we were able to accomplis

4827
02:03:50,208 --> 02:03:50,598
h

4828
02:03:50,598 --> 02:03:51,247
in the audit plan?

4829
02:03:51,247 --> 02:03:52,240
is that what you are saying?

4830
02:03:52,240 --> 02:03:53,138
>> that is right.

4831
02:03:53,138 --> 02:03:54,620
when auditors come, one of the

4832
02:03:54,620 --> 02:03:54,940


4833
02:03:54,940 --> 02:03:55,936
things they look at is they loo

4834
02:03:55,936 --> 02:03:55,936
k

4835
02:03:55,936 --> 02:03:57,780
at the audit plan, and they loo

4836
02:03:57,780 --> 02:03:57,780
k

4837
02:03:57,780 --> 02:03:58,748
at what you have accomplished.

4838
02:03:58,748 --> 02:03:58,748


4839
02:03:58,748 --> 02:04:02,182
they want to know if you are t

4840
02:04:02,182 --> 02:04:02,182
oo

4841
02:04:02,182 --> 02:04:04,918
far away from completing your

4842
02:04:04,918 --> 02:04:04,918


4843
02:04:04,918 --> 02:04:06,562
audit plan, they don't expect

4844
02:04:06,562 --> 02:04:06,562


4845
02:04:06,562 --> 02:04:07,324
that you complete it.

4846
02:04:07,324 --> 02:04:10,264
it's not easy, but they expect

4847
02:04:10,264 --> 02:04:10,444


4848
02:04:10,444 --> 02:04:12,190
that you heed a benchmark is

4849
02:04:12,190 --> 02:04:12,190
85%.

4850
02:04:12,190 --> 02:04:17,244
so if you are far from that 85%,

4851
02:04:17,244 --> 02:04:17,244


4852
02:04:17,244 --> 02:04:19,032
you might begin to wonder, why

4853
02:04:19,032 --> 02:04:19,200


4854
02:04:19,200 --> 02:04:20,170
is that the case?

4855
02:04:20,170 --> 02:04:22,079
and then we don't want to be I

4856
02:04:22,079 --> 02:04:22,300
n

4857
02:04:22,300 --> 02:04:22,732
such position.

4858
02:04:22,732 --> 02:04:24,336
>> right, right.

4859
02:04:24,336 --> 02:04:26,929
and so I'll just say, I mean -

4860
02:04:26,929 --> 02:04:27,105
-

4861
02:04:27,105 --> 02:04:30,245
so we had a reduction overall I

4862
02:04:30,245 --> 02:04:30,245
n

4863
02:04:30,245 --> 02:04:31,550
the administrative oversight o

4864
02:04:31,550 --> 02:04:32,147
f

4865
02:04:32,147 --> 02:04:32,844
multiple departments within the

4866
02:04:32,844 --> 02:04:33,709


4867
02:04:33,709 --> 02:04:34,983
city, right?

4868
02:04:34,983 --> 02:04:36,180
because gainesville utilities

4869
02:04:36,180 --> 02:04:36,180


4870
02:04:36,180 --> 02:04:36,844
moved out from under there.

4871
02:04:36,844 --> 02:04:39,422
so a number of departments wer

4872
02:04:39,422 --> 02:04:39,622
e

4873
02:04:39,622 --> 02:04:40,858
reduced at that time.

4874
02:04:40,858 --> 02:04:43,590
we now, I would say that gener

4875
02:04:43,590 --> 02:04:43,590
al

4876
02:04:43,590 --> 02:04:45,224
government is probably being

4877
02:04:45,224 --> 02:04:46,836
audited more so than it had in

4878
02:04:46,836 --> 02:04:46,836


4879
02:04:46,836 --> 02:04:47,922
the past because it is about 1

4880
02:04:47,922 --> 02:04:47,922
/3

4881
02:04:47,922 --> 02:04:50,226
of your overall auditing was a

4882
02:04:50,226 --> 02:04:50,349
t

4883
02:04:50,349 --> 02:04:51,526
the g.r.u. Side.

4884
02:04:51,526 --> 02:04:52,844
and then there was a reduction

4885
02:04:52,844 --> 02:04:53,028


4886
02:04:53,028 --> 02:04:54,838
in overall, but there's still,

4887
02:04:54,838 --> 02:04:54,838


4888
02:04:54,838 --> 02:04:55,451
you know, a significant amount

4889
02:04:55,451 --> 02:04:55,663


4890
02:04:55,663 --> 02:04:57,502
of resources going over the

4891
02:04:57,502 --> 02:04:57,763
general government.

4892
02:04:57,763 --> 02:04:59,841
I guess my point is, as of

4893
02:04:59,841 --> 02:05:00,904
yesterday we were six months

4894
02:05:00,904 --> 02:05:01,781
into our overall budget.

4895
02:05:01,781 --> 02:05:03,408
october 1 was when the budget

4896
02:05:03,408 --> 02:05:03,408


4897
02:05:03,408 --> 02:05:03,408
started.

4898
02:05:03,408 --> 02:05:07,508
april 1 is our six-month time.

4899
02:05:07,508 --> 02:05:07,508


4900
02:05:07,508 --> 02:05:12,320
and I could consider freezing

4901
02:05:12,320 --> 02:05:12,320


4902
02:05:12,320 --> 02:05:14,736
the one position, unfreezing

4903
02:05:14,736 --> 02:05:15,886
that position, which would put

4904
02:05:15,886 --> 02:05:16,137


4905
02:05:16,137 --> 02:05:17,530
-- it's 11,000 for the rest of

4906
02:05:17,530 --> 02:05:17,530


4907
02:05:17,530 --> 02:05:17,931
the year.

4908
02:05:17,931 --> 02:05:20,780
it's 22,000 going forward, plus

4909
02:05:20,780 --> 02:05:20,780
,

4910
02:05:20,780 --> 02:05:23,664
I'd imagine, some amount of

4911
02:05:23,664 --> 02:05:24,527
increase that would come from

4912
02:05:24,527 --> 02:05:24,527


4913
02:05:24,527 --> 02:05:25,629
cost of living.

4914
02:05:25,629 --> 02:05:27,212
but I think all of our

4915
02:05:27,212 --> 02:05:28,298
departments across the board w

4916
02:05:28,298 --> 02:05:28,346
e

4917
02:05:28,346 --> 02:05:29,370
have froze a number of

4918
02:05:29,370 --> 02:05:30,836
departments and eliminated --

4919
02:05:30,836 --> 02:05:30,836


4920
02:05:30,836 --> 02:05:31,874
frozen a lot of positions.

4921
02:05:31,874 --> 02:05:33,338
I think everyone, we need to

4922
02:05:33,338 --> 02:05:34,810
really hold the line on trying

4923
02:05:34,810 --> 02:05:34,810


4924
02:05:34,810 --> 02:05:35,776
to say the level of service and

4925
02:05:35,776 --> 02:05:35,942


4926
02:05:35,942 --> 02:05:37,346
what we have agreed to is what

4927
02:05:37,346 --> 02:05:37,872


4928
02:05:37,872 --> 02:05:38,746
we're going to accomplish withi

4929
02:05:38,746 --> 02:05:38,746
n

4930
02:05:38,746 --> 02:05:40,142
the budget is what we're

4931
02:05:40,142 --> 02:05:41,243
agreeing to, and roll the rest

4932
02:05:41,243 --> 02:05:41,748


4933
02:05:41,748 --> 02:05:42,667
of that over into the next

4934
02:05:42,667 --> 02:05:43,124
budget year.

4935
02:05:43,124 --> 02:05:45,650
and so those are my thoughts,

4936
02:05:45,650 --> 02:05:45,650


4937
02:05:45,650 --> 02:05:46,175
mr. Mayor.

4938
02:05:46,175 --> 02:05:46,856
>> mayor: thank you.

4939
02:05:46,856 --> 02:05:47,782
commissioner eastman.

4940
02:05:47,782 --> 02:05:48,664
and commissioner book.

4941
02:05:48,664 --> 02:05:50,262
>> thank you, mr. Mayor.

4942
02:05:50,262 --> 02:05:52,093
just a few questions.

4943
02:05:52,093 --> 02:05:54,892
do you know, what was the

4944
02:05:54,892 --> 02:05:56,116
position levelling that we have

4945
02:05:56,116 --> 02:05:56,462


4946
02:05:56,462 --> 02:05:57,576
this in some previous documents

4947
02:05:57,576 --> 02:05:57,933


4948
02:05:57,933 --> 02:05:59,162
of the auditor's office pre-gr

4949
02:05:59,162 --> 02:06:00,965
u

4950
02:06:00,965 --> 02:06:00,965
split?

4951
02:06:00,965 --> 02:06:02,118
how many positions was that?

4952
02:06:02,118 --> 02:06:05,679
>> so it would be 2022 and back

4953
02:06:05,679 --> 02:06:05,679
.

4954
02:06:05,679 --> 02:06:08,142
>> I believe it was seven.

4955
02:06:08,142 --> 02:06:08,910
I might be wrong.

4956
02:06:08,910 --> 02:06:10,048
maybe six.

4957
02:06:10,048 --> 02:06:12,544
but it was maybe an intention t

4958
02:06:12,544 --> 02:06:12,544
o

4959
02:06:12,544 --> 02:06:12,910
have a seventh.

4960
02:06:12,910 --> 02:06:15,314
>> I see.

4961
02:06:15,314 --> 02:06:16,020
I see.

4962
02:06:16,020 --> 02:06:17,454
I see your staff nodding their

4963
02:06:17,454 --> 02:06:17,760


4964
02:06:17,760 --> 02:06:17,760
head.

4965
02:06:17,760 --> 02:06:19,028
that is really important becau

4966
02:06:19,028 --> 02:06:19,028
se

4967
02:06:19,028 --> 02:06:20,048
what commissioner eastman is

4968
02:06:20,048 --> 02:06:21,188
talking about is when you move

4969
02:06:21,188 --> 02:06:21,316


4970
02:06:21,316 --> 02:06:23,018
different pieces away from a

4971
02:06:23,018 --> 02:06:23,928
city, we should have appropria

4972
02:06:23,928 --> 02:06:23,928
te

4973
02:06:23,928 --> 02:06:27,064
reductions to deal with the --

4974
02:06:27,064 --> 02:06:27,342


4975
02:06:27,342 --> 02:06:28,054
but that was already done in th

4976
02:06:28,054 --> 02:06:28,054
e

4977
02:06:28,054 --> 02:06:28,960
auditor's office.

4978
02:06:28,960 --> 02:06:30,859
and as it relates to the total

4979
02:06:30,859 --> 02:06:31,280


4980
02:06:31,280 --> 02:06:33,026
figure, we're talking about

4981
02:06:33,026 --> 02:06:34,978
$45,000 across these two

4982
02:06:34,978 --> 02:06:35,604
different aspects.

4983
02:06:35,604 --> 02:06:37,942
one is for services and one is

4984
02:06:37,942 --> 02:06:38,272
a

4985
02:06:38,272 --> 02:06:40,708
percentage of a year for a

4986
02:06:40,708 --> 02:06:42,774
position upgrade is what I loo

4987
02:06:42,774 --> 02:06:43,172
k

4988
02:06:43,172 --> 02:06:43,172
at.

4989
02:06:43,172 --> 02:06:45,348
is that -- has that, the piece

4990
02:06:45,348 --> 02:06:45,610


4991
02:06:45,610 --> 02:06:47,144
related to the position, been

4992
02:06:47,144 --> 02:06:47,144


4993
02:06:47,144 --> 02:06:47,944
run through h.r.?

4994
02:06:47,944 --> 02:06:48,976
because you have already kind o

4995
02:06:48,976 --> 02:06:48,976
f

4996
02:06:48,976 --> 02:06:50,832
focused on a specific process

4997
02:06:50,832 --> 02:06:50,832


4998
02:06:50,832 --> 02:06:52,452
and upgrading a position.

4999
02:06:52,452 --> 02:06:54,006
just want to make sure, as

5000
02:06:54,006 --> 02:06:55,260
always, are we following the

5001
02:06:55,260 --> 02:06:55,684
process there?

5002
02:06:55,684 --> 02:06:58,079
and what is h.r.'s thoughts

5003
02:06:58,079 --> 02:06:58,357
about that?

5004
02:06:58,357 --> 02:07:01,898
>> yeah, and before we can sta

5005
02:07:01,898 --> 02:07:01,898
rt

5006
02:07:01,898 --> 02:07:03,412
with all this, I consulted wit

5007
02:07:03,412 --> 02:07:03,504
h

5008
02:07:03,504 --> 02:07:04,132
the h.r. Director.

5009
02:07:04,132 --> 02:07:06,959
I also consulted with the budge

5010
02:07:06,959 --> 02:07:06,959
t

5011
02:07:06,959 --> 02:07:08,532
office, and we made sure that w

5012
02:07:08,532 --> 02:07:08,532
e

5013
02:07:08,532 --> 02:07:11,200
followed the proper process.

5014
02:07:11,200 --> 02:07:13,676
and the process we are following

5015
02:07:13,676 --> 02:07:13,676


5016
02:07:13,676 --> 02:07:15,472
is within policy.

5017
02:07:15,472 --> 02:07:18,308
>> and so if this were to move

5018
02:07:18,308 --> 02:07:18,572


5019
02:07:18,572 --> 02:07:20,117
forward, there would be no iss

5020
02:07:20,117 --> 02:07:20,117
ue

5021
02:07:20,117 --> 02:07:22,490
with pre-identifying a person

5022
02:07:22,490 --> 02:07:22,490


5023
02:07:22,490 --> 02:07:23,454
who was in a position that bas

5024
02:07:23,454 --> 02:07:23,454
ed

5025
02:07:23,454 --> 02:07:26,700
on their skills and abilities

5026
02:07:26,700 --> 02:07:26,700


5027
02:07:26,700 --> 02:07:27,514
and probably the job

5028
02:07:27,514 --> 02:07:28,973
description, where the job aud

5029
02:07:28,973 --> 02:07:28,973
it

5030
02:07:28,973 --> 02:07:30,394
itself, and they would, in fact

5031
02:07:30,394 --> 02:07:30,394
,

5032
02:07:30,394 --> 02:07:32,188
be able to ascend to that

5033
02:07:32,188 --> 02:07:33,226
position and creates no problem

5034
02:07:33,226 --> 02:07:33,395


5035
02:07:33,395 --> 02:07:33,792
in the process.

5036
02:07:33,792 --> 02:07:36,014
>> absolutely.

5037
02:07:36,014 --> 02:07:36,424
>> okay.

5038
02:07:36,424 --> 02:07:40,120
well, I just -- mr. Manager, I

5039
02:07:40,120 --> 02:07:40,160


5040
02:07:40,160 --> 02:07:40,842
don't know if you want to weigh

5041
02:07:40,842 --> 02:07:41,000


5042
02:07:41,000 --> 02:07:42,670
in or should weigh in, but fro

5043
02:07:42,670 --> 02:07:42,796
m

5044
02:07:42,796 --> 02:07:44,800
a standpoint of the 45,000 rig

5045
02:07:44,800 --> 02:07:44,800
ht

5046
02:07:44,800 --> 02:07:46,472
now at the middle of the budge

5047
02:07:46,472 --> 02:07:46,706
t

5048
02:07:46,706 --> 02:07:49,481
year, and any thoughts about

5049
02:07:49,481 --> 02:07:50,973
where that would come from?

5050
02:07:50,973 --> 02:07:54,422
or what that means for us moving

5051
02:07:54,422 --> 02:07:54,422


5052
02:07:54,422 --> 02:07:56,352
on our potential finances

5053
02:07:56,352 --> 02:07:57,616
through the fiscal year?

5054
02:07:57,616 --> 02:08:01,294
>> mr. Mayor, I don't have

5055
02:08:01,294 --> 02:08:03,140
anything, I guess, specific in

5056
02:08:03,140 --> 02:08:03,418


5057
02:08:03,418 --> 02:08:06,415
terms of weighing in.

5058
02:08:06,415 --> 02:08:11,594
I do -- as the auditor

5059
02:08:11,594 --> 02:08:12,436
indicated, he has been meeting

5060
02:08:12,436 --> 02:08:12,740


5061
02:08:12,740 --> 02:08:13,234
about the budget.

5062
02:08:13,234 --> 02:08:14,686
I haven't received anything fro

5063
02:08:14,686 --> 02:08:14,686
m

5064
02:08:14,686 --> 02:08:18,318
the budget office in terms of

5065
02:08:18,318 --> 02:08:18,318


5066
02:08:18,318 --> 02:08:18,936
concern about the $45,000, and

5067
02:08:18,936 --> 02:08:19,138
I

5068
02:08:19,138 --> 02:08:20,574
think that's largely in part d

5069
02:08:20,574 --> 02:08:20,574
ue

5070
02:08:20,574 --> 02:08:23,070
to the auditor's willingness t

5071
02:08:23,070 --> 02:08:23,160
o

5072
02:08:23,160 --> 02:08:24,188
swap essentially one position

5073
02:08:24,188 --> 02:08:24,188


5074
02:08:24,188 --> 02:08:26,012
for the other in terms of

5075
02:08:26,012 --> 02:08:26,012
frozen.

5076
02:08:26,012 --> 02:08:29,180
>> just the fact we have over

5077
02:08:29,180 --> 02:08:29,180


5078
02:08:29,180 --> 02:08:31,552
1,200 employees and we've been

5079
02:08:31,552 --> 02:08:32,150


5080
02:08:32,150 --> 02:08:32,932
scrutinizing them basically

5081
02:08:32,932 --> 02:08:35,326
position by position is a reall

5082
02:08:35,326 --> 02:08:35,326
y

5083
02:08:35,326 --> 02:08:37,724
good thing in different, you

5084
02:08:37,724 --> 02:08:38,655
know, in difficult financal

5085
02:08:38,655 --> 02:08:40,102
times, that is what we've done

5086
02:08:40,102 --> 02:08:40,102
.

5087
02:08:40,102 --> 02:08:41,956
that is what has led us to

5088
02:08:41,956 --> 02:08:42,694
freeze essentially 30 positions

5089
02:08:42,694 --> 02:08:42,872


5090
02:08:42,872 --> 02:08:44,500
through the fiscal year that

5091
02:08:44,500 --> 02:08:45,636
will probably come up in other

5092
02:08:45,636 --> 02:08:46,097


5093
02:08:46,097 --> 02:08:48,738
agenda items, but just would

5094
02:08:48,738 --> 02:08:50,170
like when equal opportunity cam

5095
02:08:50,170 --> 02:08:50,170
e

5096
02:08:50,170 --> 02:08:52,938
to forest to mrak slight

5097
02:08:52,938 --> 02:08:56,196
adjustment, and we supported it

5098
02:08:56,196 --> 02:08:56,196
.

5099
02:08:56,196 --> 02:08:58,376
I'm always -- I'm hesitant to

5100
02:08:58,376 --> 02:08:58,376


5101
02:08:58,376 --> 02:09:00,277
increase things through the

5102
02:09:00,277 --> 02:09:03,252
budget year during the budget

5103
02:09:03,252 --> 02:09:03,252


5104
02:09:03,252 --> 02:09:03,252
year.

5105
02:09:03,252 --> 02:09:04,700
on the other hand, our city

5106
02:09:04,700 --> 02:09:05,881
leaders should have the ability

5107
02:09:05,881 --> 02:09:06,048


5108
02:09:06,048 --> 02:09:08,564
to make small and incremental

5109
02:09:08,564 --> 02:09:08,564


5110
02:09:08,564 --> 02:09:10,024
additions, subtractions that

5111
02:09:10,024 --> 02:09:10,905
allow them to be efficient and

5112
02:09:10,905 --> 02:09:11,120


5113
02:09:11,120 --> 02:09:12,416
tell us what they need, and I

5114
02:09:12,416 --> 02:09:12,416


5115
02:09:12,416 --> 02:09:15,624
think this is one of those

5116
02:09:15,624 --> 02:09:15,624
cases.

5117
02:09:15,624 --> 02:09:18,076
as the money comes through

5118
02:09:18,076 --> 02:09:20,204
general revenue, I would suppo

5119
02:09:20,204 --> 02:09:20,204
rt

5120
02:09:20,204 --> 02:09:20,204
it.

5121
02:09:20,204 --> 02:09:21,934
but again, we have to be looki

5122
02:09:21,934 --> 02:09:21,934
ng

5123
02:09:21,934 --> 02:09:24,468
across all positions and across

5124
02:09:24,468 --> 02:09:25,234


5125
02:09:25,234 --> 02:09:26,416
all charters actually when the

5126
02:09:26,416 --> 02:09:27,150
y

5127
02:09:27,150 --> 02:09:28,132
come before us.

5128
02:09:28,132 --> 02:09:29,304
so thank you for that

5129
02:09:29,304 --> 02:09:29,304
information.

5130
02:09:29,304 --> 02:09:32,942
>> thank you, commissioner book

5131
02:09:32,942 --> 02:09:32,942
.

5132
02:09:32,942 --> 02:09:34,278
commissioner duncan-walker.

5133
02:09:34,278 --> 02:09:36,352
>> thank you, mr. Mayor.

5134
02:09:36,352 --> 02:09:37,686
thank you for being very, very

5135
02:09:37,686 --> 02:09:38,006


5136
02:09:38,006 --> 02:09:39,916
thorough and making sure you

5137
02:09:39,916 --> 02:09:41,163
covered many, if not all, of th

5138
02:09:41,163 --> 02:09:41,163
e

5139
02:09:41,163 --> 02:09:42,656
bases in regards to speaking

5140
02:09:42,656 --> 02:09:43,920
with h.r., speaking to budgeting

5141
02:09:43,920 --> 02:09:43,920


5142
02:09:43,920 --> 02:09:45,587
so that you could come to us

5143
02:09:45,587 --> 02:09:46,401
with something that was not hal

5144
02:09:46,401 --> 02:09:46,401
f

5145
02:09:46,401 --> 02:09:48,836
baked but very well thought ou

5146
02:09:48,836 --> 02:09:48,836
t.

5147
02:09:48,836 --> 02:09:53,632
I do remember our conversation

5148
02:09:53,632 --> 02:09:54,192
,

5149
02:09:54,192 --> 02:09:54,900
and I could appreciate your

5150
02:09:54,900 --> 02:09:56,234
level of thoroughness then jus

5151
02:09:56,234 --> 02:09:56,436
t

5152
02:09:56,436 --> 02:09:57,202
as I appreciate it today.

5153
02:09:57,202 --> 02:10:00,070
I think this is a reasonable

5154
02:10:00,070 --> 02:10:00,070
request.

5155
02:10:00,070 --> 02:10:02,678
and I think the ability of you

5156
02:10:02,678 --> 02:10:02,838


5157
02:10:02,838 --> 02:10:04,340
to be having to trade off a

5158
02:10:04,340 --> 02:10:06,518
position is something that I

5159
02:10:06,518 --> 02:10:08,852
consider very, very important.

5160
02:10:08,852 --> 02:10:08,852


5161
02:10:08,852 --> 02:10:10,516
I think that the request is

5162
02:10:10,516 --> 02:10:11,242
small.

5163
02:10:11,242 --> 02:10:12,576
it's reasonable considering what

5164
02:10:12,576 --> 02:10:12,576


5165
02:10:12,576 --> 02:10:13,798
it is that your office has to

5166
02:10:13,798 --> 02:10:13,798


5167
02:10:13,798 --> 02:10:15,422
do, and I support it.

5168
02:10:15,422 --> 02:10:15,806
thank you.

5169
02:10:15,806 --> 02:10:17,288
>> mayor: thank you,

5170
02:10:17,288 --> 02:10:17,966
commissioner duncan-walker.

5171
02:10:17,966 --> 02:10:19,326
commissioner chestnut.

5172
02:10:19,326 --> 02:10:24,866
>> thank you, mr. Mayor.

5173
02:10:24,866 --> 02:10:27,128
I support the $11,000 towards

5174
02:10:27,128 --> 02:10:27,128


5175
02:10:27,128 --> 02:10:30,935
your staff, your senior staff

5176
02:10:30,935 --> 02:10:30,935


5177
02:10:30,935 --> 02:10:30,935
auditor.

5178
02:10:30,935 --> 02:10:32,420
where I have the concern is wit

5179
02:10:32,420 --> 02:10:32,420
h

5180
02:10:32,420 --> 02:10:38,067
the, I guess the overall $33,00

5181
02:10:38,067 --> 02:10:38,067
0

5182
02:10:38,067 --> 02:10:38,067
increase.

5183
02:10:38,067 --> 02:10:46,882
now, prior to this year, this

5184
02:10:46,882 --> 02:10:46,882


5185
02:10:46,882 --> 02:10:48,860
year I'll say, for average

5186
02:10:48,860 --> 02:10:50,186
number of audits was at six?

5187
02:10:50,186 --> 02:10:53,594
>> I would say we moved from

5188
02:10:53,594 --> 02:10:54,390
five, six, sometimes four.

5189
02:10:54,390 --> 02:10:55,860
>> but it wasn't 10.

5190
02:10:55,860 --> 02:10:56,692
it wasn't 10.

5191
02:10:56,692 --> 02:10:58,326
>> I don't remember it ever

5192
02:10:58,326 --> 02:10:58,690
being 10.

5193
02:10:58,690 --> 02:10:59,761
>> no.

5194
02:10:59,761 --> 02:11:01,014
it was not 10.

5195
02:11:01,014 --> 02:11:04,973
I think we had a reduction whe

5196
02:11:04,973 --> 02:11:05,098
n

5197
02:11:05,098 --> 02:11:07,419
we moved from having g.r.u. Plu

5198
02:11:07,419 --> 02:11:07,419
s

5199
02:11:07,419 --> 02:11:09,277
general government, and then I

5200
02:11:09,277 --> 02:11:09,320


5201
02:11:09,320 --> 02:11:13,886
think you went up from six to

5202
02:11:13,886 --> 02:11:13,886


5203
02:11:13,886 --> 02:11:13,886
10.

5204
02:11:13,886 --> 02:11:17,916
while that's very ambitious and

5205
02:11:17,916 --> 02:11:18,138


5206
02:11:18,138 --> 02:11:20,221
I appreciate that, I think tha

5207
02:11:20,221 --> 02:11:20,498
t

5208
02:11:20,498 --> 02:11:23,860
that's what's causing the

5209
02:11:23,860 --> 02:11:24,375
increase here.

5210
02:11:24,375 --> 02:11:30,396
so I would support the 11,000.

5211
02:11:30,396 --> 02:11:30,396


5212
02:11:30,396 --> 02:11:32,596
I can't support 44,000.

5213
02:11:32,596 --> 02:11:35,506
>> thank you, commissioner

5214
02:11:35,506 --> 02:11:35,506
willits.

5215
02:11:35,506 --> 02:11:38,068
>> mayor: thank you, mr. Mayor.

5216
02:11:38,068 --> 02:11:38,068


5217
02:11:38,068 --> 02:11:42,290
I think the fte kind of swap I

5218
02:11:42,290 --> 02:11:42,809
s

5219
02:11:42,809 --> 02:11:42,809
great.

5220
02:11:42,809 --> 02:11:45,592
I think it makes sense partial

5221
02:11:45,592 --> 02:11:45,592
ly

5222
02:11:45,592 --> 02:11:47,680
because through some budgeting

5223
02:11:47,680 --> 02:11:48,408


5224
02:11:48,408 --> 02:11:50,354
cuts, we were -- I think as I

5225
02:11:50,354 --> 02:11:50,354


5226
02:11:50,354 --> 02:11:52,956
remember, some of the practice

5227
02:11:52,956 --> 02:11:53,401


5228
02:11:53,401 --> 02:11:55,250
was that sometimes an open

5229
02:11:55,250 --> 02:11:58,364
position is what we kept froze

5230
02:11:58,364 --> 02:11:58,890


5231
02:11:58,890 --> 02:11:59,566
or it was cut.

5232
02:11:59,566 --> 02:12:02,967
as opposed to firing someone

5233
02:12:02,967 --> 02:12:04,524
from a lower position and then

5234
02:12:04,524 --> 02:12:05,258


5235
02:12:05,258 --> 02:12:06,032
having to go through a process

5236
02:12:06,032 --> 02:12:06,334


5237
02:12:06,334 --> 02:12:09,170
of hiring an open position.

5238
02:12:09,170 --> 02:12:13,826
and so this just seems like, yo

5239
02:12:13,826 --> 02:12:13,826
u

5240
02:12:13,826 --> 02:12:16,043
know -- this makes a lot of

5241
02:12:16,043 --> 02:12:16,578
sense to me.

5242
02:12:16,578 --> 02:12:19,311
to structure your office and

5243
02:12:19,311 --> 02:12:20,811
because we just have to do it

5244
02:12:20,811 --> 02:12:20,811


5245
02:12:20,811 --> 02:12:24,022
through the fte budget process,

5246
02:12:24,022 --> 02:12:24,022


5247
02:12:24,022 --> 02:12:24,704
that makes sense.

5248
02:12:24,704 --> 02:12:26,518
partially because you've got t

5249
02:12:26,518 --> 02:12:26,805
o

5250
02:12:26,805 --> 02:12:27,491
keep your people.

5251
02:12:27,491 --> 02:12:29,262
and sometimes you really have t

5252
02:12:29,262 --> 02:12:29,262
o

5253
02:12:29,262 --> 02:12:31,131
-- as they progress in their

5254
02:12:31,131 --> 02:12:32,721
career, it makes a lot of sens

5255
02:12:32,721 --> 02:12:32,721
e.

5256
02:12:32,721 --> 02:12:33,522
that makes sense.

5257
02:12:33,522 --> 02:12:35,501
the other issue, I can

5258
02:12:35,501 --> 02:12:36,560
understand the concerns, but I

5259
02:12:36,560 --> 02:12:36,757


5260
02:12:36,757 --> 02:12:38,152
do encourage my colleagues to g

5261
02:12:38,152 --> 02:12:38,152
o

5262
02:12:38,152 --> 02:12:40,129
back and if you didn't read

5263
02:12:40,129 --> 02:12:42,507
consent agenda item 7 and 8, t

5264
02:12:42,507 --> 02:12:42,507
he

5265
02:12:42,507 --> 02:12:45,304
reports from audit, and

5266
02:12:45,304 --> 02:12:46,610
particularly some of them are

5267
02:12:46,610 --> 02:12:46,610


5268
02:12:46,610 --> 02:12:47,225
confidential because they

5269
02:12:47,225 --> 02:12:48,042
contain security issues.

5270
02:12:48,042 --> 02:12:51,949
I was very impressed by just t

5271
02:12:51,949 --> 02:12:51,949
he

5272
02:12:51,949 --> 02:12:53,934
past, those two, and one

5273
02:12:53,934 --> 02:12:54,414
previously this spring.

5274
02:12:54,414 --> 02:12:56,622
the ones I've seen this spring

5275
02:12:56,622 --> 02:12:56,622


5276
02:12:56,622 --> 02:13:00,785
and maybe it was a culminati

5277
02:13:00,785 --> 02:13:03,288
of a lot of work and the

5278
02:13:03,288 --> 02:13:05,538
findings about where managemen

5279
02:13:05,538 --> 02:13:05,718
t

5280
02:13:05,718 --> 02:13:06,301
and the office has worked with

5281
02:13:06,301 --> 02:13:06,391


5282
02:13:06,391 --> 02:13:07,506
you and identified several

5283
02:13:07,506 --> 02:13:09,925
concerns to make sure that we

5284
02:13:09,925 --> 02:13:09,925


5285
02:13:09,925 --> 02:13:14,818
can prevent future fraud or any

5286
02:13:14,818 --> 02:13:15,100


5287
02:13:15,100 --> 02:13:15,739
kind of security threat.

5288
02:13:15,739 --> 02:13:18,937
and so I just -- it reminded m

5289
02:13:18,937 --> 02:13:19,771
e

5290
02:13:19,771 --> 02:13:22,243
why you have to do these becau

5291
02:13:22,243 --> 02:13:22,243
se

5292
02:13:22,243 --> 02:13:23,677
all of our departments are bus

5293
02:13:23,677 --> 02:13:24,039
y

5294
02:13:24,039 --> 02:13:26,281
getting all their work done and

5295
02:13:26,281 --> 02:13:26,617


5296
02:13:26,617 --> 02:13:28,851
maybe that level of reflection

5297
02:13:28,851 --> 02:13:29,078


5298
02:13:29,078 --> 02:13:30,645
of process is not the first

5299
02:13:30,645 --> 02:13:32,086
thing they do, but our auditor,

5300
02:13:32,086 --> 02:13:32,448


5301
02:13:32,448 --> 02:13:33,391
that is the first thing you do

5302
02:13:33,391 --> 02:13:33,391
.

5303
02:13:33,391 --> 02:13:35,233
that's your first concern.

5304
02:13:35,233 --> 02:13:37,207
and so I want to pose a questio

5305
02:13:37,207 --> 02:13:37,627
n  to m

5306
02:13:37,627 --> 02:13:39,861
to m colleagues is, was the

5307
02:13:39,861 --> 02:13:42,531
level of general government

5308
02:13:42,531 --> 02:13:43,693
audit appropriate before 2024?

5309
02:13:43,693 --> 02:13:43,693


5310
02:13:43,693 --> 02:13:45,167
we can reference the past, but

5311
02:13:45,167 --> 02:13:45,565


5312
02:13:45,565 --> 02:13:48,970
were we getting enough done?

5313
02:13:48,970 --> 02:13:52,575
and we know before fy24 going

5314
02:13:52,575 --> 02:13:52,575


5315
02:13:52,575 --> 02:13:54,209
back a few years before that,

5316
02:13:54,209 --> 02:13:54,209


5317
02:13:54,209 --> 02:13:55,141
there were issues with certain

5318
02:13:55,141 --> 02:13:55,555


5319
02:13:55,555 --> 02:13:57,619
parts of our government that l

5320
02:13:57,619 --> 02:13:57,619
ed

5321
02:13:57,619 --> 02:13:58,411
to staff transition.

5322
02:13:58,411 --> 02:14:01,787
that led to us devolving part o

5323
02:14:01,787 --> 02:14:01,787
f

5324
02:14:01,787 --> 02:14:03,313
your government away and I'm

5325
02:14:03,313 --> 02:14:05,087
talkin

5326
02:14:05,087 --> 02:14:05,087
tal

5327
02:14:05,087 --> 02:14:11,959
talking about riker house, lik

5328
02:14:11,959 --> 02:14:12,253
e

5329
02:14:12,253 --> 02:14:12,472
real concerns.

5330
02:14:12,472 --> 02:14:14,427
and more of our contracts when

5331
02:14:14,427 --> 02:14:14,627


5332
02:14:14,627 --> 02:14:16,528
we give money to a nonprofit

5333
02:14:16,528 --> 02:14:17,389
partner, that we have some

5334
02:14:17,389 --> 02:14:18,694
ability to audit a portion of

5335
02:14:18,694 --> 02:14:18,694


5336
02:14:18,694 --> 02:14:20,943
what we give to bee to kind

5337
02:14:20,943 --> 02:14:21,787
of peel back the onion and loo

5338
02:14:21,787 --> 02:14:21,917
k

5339
02:14:21,917 --> 02:14:22,877
a little bit.

5340
02:14:22,877 --> 02:14:24,573
so that is if -- if we want to

5341
02:14:24,573 --> 02:14:24,573


5342
02:14:24,573 --> 02:14:26,649
do that, but we don't want to

5343
02:14:26,649 --> 02:14:26,649


5344
02:14:26,649 --> 02:14:27,940
have a little more budget wiggl

5345
02:14:27,940 --> 02:14:27,940
e

5346
02:14:27,940 --> 02:14:29,739
room so that the auditor can

5347
02:14:29,739 --> 02:14:32,711
hire outside, we need to know

5348
02:14:32,711 --> 02:14:32,711


5349
02:14:32,711 --> 02:14:34,879
that before we even propose or

5350
02:14:34,879 --> 02:14:36,011


5351
02:14:36,011 --> 02:14:38,123
put that policy in because we

5352
02:14:38,123 --> 02:14:38,123


5353
02:14:38,123 --> 02:14:39,079
can't give them more work

5354
02:14:39,079 --> 02:14:40,851
without some more resources.

5355
02:14:40,851 --> 02:14:44,491
because we have an item coming

5356
02:14:44,491 --> 02:14:44,491


5357
02:14:44,491 --> 02:14:45,953
up in the afternoon, similar

5358
02:14:45,953 --> 02:14:47,157
dollar amount coming out of

5359
02:14:47,157 --> 02:14:49,527
proposed to be spent out of

5360
02:14:49,527 --> 02:14:50,690
excess fund balance where we

5361
02:14:50,690 --> 02:14:52,199
will talk about the ability to

5362
02:14:52,199 --> 02:14:52,525


5363
02:14:52,525 --> 02:14:55,631
audit the money we give them.

5364
02:14:55,631 --> 02:14:58,539
so I will -- it will be hard t

5365
02:14:58,539 --> 02:14:58,539
o

5366
02:14:58,539 --> 02:15:00,971
understand someone voting yes

5367
02:15:00,971 --> 02:15:00,971


5368
02:15:00,971 --> 02:15:01,579
and we want oversight over the

5369
02:15:01,579 --> 02:15:03,343


5370
02:15:03,343 --> 02:15:03,343


5371
02:15:03,343 --> 02:15:10,451
$55,000 for heartwood, but not

5372
02:15:10,451 --> 02:15:10,859


5373
02:15:10,859 --> 02:15:13,119
the money to go track and the

5374
02:15:13,119 --> 02:15:13,119


5375
02:15:13,119 --> 02:15:13,949
person potentially being part o

5376
02:15:13,949 --> 02:15:13,949
f

5377
02:15:13,949 --> 02:15:14,683
that audit process.

5378
02:15:14,683 --> 02:15:15,687
I don't know where we're going

5379
02:15:15,687 --> 02:15:15,825


5380
02:15:15,825 --> 02:15:17,225
to land on both of those, but I

5381
02:15:17,225 --> 02:15:17,473


5382
02:15:17,473 --> 02:15:18,857
just wanted to bring that up.

5383
02:15:18,857 --> 02:15:20,583
I have similar concerns about

5384
02:15:20,583 --> 02:15:20,583


5385
02:15:20,583 --> 02:15:22,395
understanding, commissioner

5386
02:15:22,395 --> 02:15:23,595
eastman, about is this

5387
02:15:23,595 --> 02:15:23,595
necessary?

5388
02:15:23,595 --> 02:15:24,640
is the volume?

5389
02:15:24,640 --> 02:15:26,880
but I will say it is hard for m

5390
02:15:26,880 --> 02:15:26,880
e

5391
02:15:26,880 --> 02:15:28,397
to make that decision right now

5392
02:15:28,397 --> 02:15:28,551


5393
02:15:28,551 --> 02:15:30,777
without using part of the trust

5394
02:15:30,777 --> 02:15:30,907


5395
02:15:30,907 --> 02:15:32,246
of the auditor to say this is

5396
02:15:32,246 --> 02:15:32,246


5397
02:15:32,246 --> 02:15:33,367
what we've been working on.

5398
02:15:33,367 --> 02:15:35,313
this is how much gamed out.

5399
02:15:35,313 --> 02:15:37,109
this is how many hours of help

5400
02:15:37,109 --> 02:15:37,273
I

5401
02:15:37,273 --> 02:15:41,213
need as opposed to I need an

5402
02:15:41,213 --> 02:15:42,715
extra position mid year.

5403
02:15:42,715 --> 02:15:43,555
thank you, colleagues.

5404
02:15:43,555 --> 02:15:45,251
thank you, mr. Mayor.

5405
02:15:45,251 --> 02:15:47,249
>> mayor: thank you,

5406
02:15:47,249 --> 02:15:47,842
commissioner willits.

5407
02:15:47,842 --> 02:15:49,017
commissioner ingle.

5408
02:15:49,017 --> 02:15:50,893
>> looking at your overall

5409
02:15:50,893 --> 02:15:54,393
chart, it looked like a pretty

5410
02:15:54,393 --> 02:15:54,861


5411
02:15:54,861 --> 02:15:55,255
tight organization.

5412
02:15:55,255 --> 02:15:58,397
so I'm assuming the work of a

5413
02:15:58,397 --> 02:15:58,397


5414
02:15:58,397 --> 02:16:01,003
senior auditor is being done

5415
02:16:01,003 --> 02:16:01,003
now.

5416
02:16:01,003 --> 02:16:03,465
it's being done by an auditor w

5417
02:16:03,465 --> 02:16:03,465
e

5418
02:16:03,465 --> 02:16:05,301
are not calling a senior

5419
02:16:05,301 --> 02:16:05,893
auditor, is that correct?

5420
02:16:05,893 --> 02:16:07,535
>> you could say that pretty

5421
02:16:07,535 --> 02:16:07,535
much.

5422
02:16:07,535 --> 02:16:09,515
our staff auditor has been

5423
02:16:09,515 --> 02:16:10,841
working very hard under the

5424
02:16:10,841 --> 02:16:13,317
supervision of our senior

5425
02:16:13,317 --> 02:16:14,480
auditor and yourself and our

5426
02:16:14,480 --> 02:16:15,679
I.t. Audit monitor.

5427
02:16:15,679 --> 02:16:18,231
we do cooperate on every audit

5428
02:16:18,231 --> 02:16:18,370


5429
02:16:18,370 --> 02:16:20,719
and we do provide that kind of

5430
02:16:20,719 --> 02:16:21,051


5431
02:16:21,051 --> 02:16:21,051
supervision.

5432
02:16:21,051 --> 02:16:23,533
when somebody becomes a senior

5433
02:16:23,533 --> 02:16:23,785


5434
02:16:23,785 --> 02:16:25,019
auditor moving from staff

5435
02:16:25,019 --> 02:16:26,057
auditor position, they need --

5436
02:16:26,057 --> 02:16:26,221


5437
02:16:26,221 --> 02:16:28,422
they will require less

5438
02:16:28,422 --> 02:16:29,697
supervision, thereby kind of

5439
02:16:29,697 --> 02:16:32,601
allowing the other auditors to

5440
02:16:32,601 --> 02:16:32,960


5441
02:16:32,960 --> 02:16:34,061
regulate more time to other

5442
02:16:34,061 --> 02:16:34,061
projects.

5443
02:16:34,061 --> 02:16:38,315
>> that makes a lot of sense t

5444
02:16:38,315 --> 02:16:38,359
o

5445
02:16:38,359 --> 02:16:38,359
me.

5446
02:16:38,359 --> 02:16:42,214
if that will free up the other

5447
02:16:42,214 --> 02:16:42,214


5448
02:16:42,214 --> 02:16:42,842
time because this person issed

5449
02:16:42,842 --> 02:16:43,051
a

5450
02:16:43,051 --> 02:16:45,483
vanced enough in their -- is

5451
02:16:45,483 --> 02:16:46,520
advanced enough in their caree

5452
02:16:46,520 --> 02:16:47,073
r

5453
02:16:47,073 --> 02:16:48,641
they don't have to have that

5454
02:16:48,641 --> 02:16:50,294
constant oversight, then I thi

5455
02:16:50,294 --> 02:16:50,294
nk

5456
02:16:50,294 --> 02:16:51,979
if everybody was given that type

5457
02:16:51,979 --> 02:16:51,979


5458
02:16:51,979 --> 02:16:53,309
of responsibility, they would b

5459
02:16:53,309 --> 02:16:53,309
e

5460
02:16:53,309 --> 02:16:54,321
given the pay commensurate wit

5461
02:16:54,321 --> 02:16:54,451
h

5462
02:16:54,451 --> 02:16:54,451
that.

5463
02:16:54,451 --> 02:16:56,151
otherwise, we are just saving

5464
02:16:56,151 --> 02:16:56,151


5465
02:16:56,151 --> 02:16:57,897
money off the back of one

5466
02:16:57,897 --> 02:16:59,703
worker, and I am in no way in

5467
02:16:59,703 --> 02:16:59,703


5468
02:16:59,703 --> 02:17:00,009
favor of that.

5469
02:17:00,009 --> 02:17:04,465
I'm okay with this.

5470
02:17:04,465 --> 02:17:06,633
I think it's a relatively small

5471
02:17:06,633 --> 02:17:06,833


5472
02:17:06,833 --> 02:17:07,968
about of money and the charter

5473
02:17:07,968 --> 02:17:08,299


5474
02:17:08,299 --> 02:17:10,301
office coming and telling me

5475
02:17:10,301 --> 02:17:11,364
this small amount of money is

5476
02:17:11,364 --> 02:17:11,364


5477
02:17:11,364 --> 02:17:12,345
what it will take to correctly

5478
02:17:12,345 --> 02:17:12,345


5479
02:17:12,345 --> 02:17:13,541
do it, I am all right with thi

5480
02:17:13,541 --> 02:17:13,665
s

5481
02:17:13,665 --> 02:17:14,281
for myself.

5482
02:17:14,281 --> 02:17:14,281
thanks.

5483
02:17:14,281 --> 02:17:16,145
>> mayor: all right.

5484
02:17:16,145 --> 02:17:17,040
thank you, commissioner ingle.

5485
02:17:17,040 --> 02:17:17,040


5486
02:17:17,040 --> 02:17:19,575
is there any public comment,

5487
02:17:19,575 --> 02:17:19,842
madam clerk?

5488
02:17:19,842 --> 02:17:21,857
>> mr. Mayor, there is no publi

5489
02:17:21,857 --> 02:17:21,857
c

5490
02:17:21,857 --> 02:17:21,857
comment.

5491
02:17:21,857 --> 02:17:23,453
>> mayor: anyone else?

5492
02:17:23,453 --> 02:17:24,205
commissioner eastman?

5493
02:17:24,205 --> 02:17:26,451
>> I'm make a motion and if

5494
02:17:26,451 --> 02:17:27,555
someone wants to make a motion

5495
02:17:27,555 --> 02:17:27,787


5496
02:17:27,787 --> 02:17:28,133
about the seconart.

5497
02:17:28,133 --> 02:17:32,149
as I mention, I support th  firspart

5498
02:17:32,149 --> 02:17:33,388
firspart that the city

5499
02:17:33,388 --> 02:17:34,659
commission authorize the [audio

5500
02:17:34,659 --> 02:17:37,363


5501
02:17:37,363 --> 02:17:37,363
disruption]

5502
02:17:37,363 --> 02:17:38,967
and authorize to amend the cit

5503
02:17:38,967 --> 02:17:39,597
y

5504
02:17:39,597 --> 02:17:42,357
auditor's budget in the amount

5505
02:17:42,357 --> 02:17:42,483


5506
02:17:42,483 --> 02:17:42,645
of $11,488.

5507
02:17:42,645 --> 02:17:44,273
>> mayor: motion and a second.

5508
02:17:44,273 --> 02:17:44,273


5509
02:17:44,273 --> 02:17:46,179
all in favor say aye.

5510
02:17:46,179 --> 02:17:46,936
any opposed?

5511
02:17:46,936 --> 02:17:47,583
all right.

5512
02:17:47,583 --> 02:17:48,803
that passes unanimously.

5513
02:17:48,803 --> 02:17:51,509
anyone want to approach the

5514
02:17:51,509 --> 02:17:51,989
other issue?

5515
02:17:51,989 --> 02:17:55,109
commissioner duncan-walker.

5516
02:17:55,109 --> 02:18:01,496
>> I vote that we apply the

5517
02:18:01,496 --> 02:18:03,453
$33,600 towards the co-sourcin

5518
02:18:03,453 --> 02:18:03,981
g

5519
02:18:03,981 --> 02:18:06,433
of a selected audit project wit

5520
02:18:06,433 --> 02:18:06,433
h

5521
02:18:06,433 --> 02:18:09,596
qualified external audit

5522
02:18:09,596 --> 02:18:10,175
consulting firms.

5523
02:18:10,175 --> 02:18:10,591
>> second.

5524
02:18:10,591 --> 02:18:11,863
>> mayor: we have a motion and

5525
02:18:11,863 --> 02:18:12,033
a

5526
02:18:12,033 --> 02:18:12,033
second.

5527
02:18:12,033 --> 02:18:13,019
any discussion?

5528
02:18:13,019 --> 02:18:13,895
commissioner eastman?

5529
02:18:13,895 --> 02:18:16,873
>> I think that any kind of

5530
02:18:16,873 --> 02:18:17,801
change in budgeting that would

5531
02:18:17,801 --> 02:18:17,926


5532
02:18:17,926 --> 02:18:19,240
change the oversaul scope, I

5533
02:18:19,240 --> 02:18:21,435
mean, I'm not a blanket opposed

5534
02:18:21,435 --> 02:18:21,565


5535
02:18:21,565 --> 02:18:21,879
to it.

5536
02:18:21,879 --> 02:18:23,181
obviously we did it in the las

5537
02:18:23,181 --> 02:18:23,403
t

5538
02:18:23,403 --> 02:18:25,629
one, but I think that is the

5539
02:18:25,629 --> 02:18:26,693
purpose of the budget process

5540
02:18:26,693 --> 02:18:26,693


5541
02:18:26,693 --> 02:18:28,713
that we do starting -- that

5542
02:18:28,713 --> 02:18:30,020
we've already started and goes

5543
02:18:30,020 --> 02:18:30,411


5544
02:18:30,411 --> 02:18:31,679
through the end of october

5545
02:18:31,679 --> 02:18:32,758
figuring out where our

5546
02:18:32,758 --> 02:18:34,571
priorities are, how that

5547
02:18:34,571 --> 02:18:35,621
balances out with other

5548
02:18:35,621 --> 02:18:37,355
positions we have frozen or not

5549
02:18:37,355 --> 02:18:37,502


5550
02:18:37,502 --> 02:18:38,723
kept frozen.

5551
02:18:38,723 --> 02:18:40,998
I am not opposed, commissioner

5552
02:18:40,998 --> 02:18:41,791


5553
02:18:41,791 --> 02:18:42,855
willits, what overall level of

5554
02:18:42,855 --> 02:18:43,025


5555
02:18:43,025 --> 02:18:45,359
service we want from our

5556
02:18:45,359 --> 02:18:46,369
administrative departments

5557
02:18:46,369 --> 02:18:49,380
versus public works, versus

5558
02:18:49,380 --> 02:18:51,199
parks, and that is what that

5559
02:18:51,199 --> 02:18:52,581
overall budget process would be

5560
02:18:52,581 --> 02:18:52,581
.

5561
02:18:52,581 --> 02:18:54,273
I am comfortable looking at the

5562
02:18:54,273 --> 02:18:54,467


5563
02:18:54,467 --> 02:18:57,545
overall scope of the audit

5564
02:18:57,545 --> 02:18:58,779
department just like I am

5565
02:18:58,779 --> 02:18:59,683
looking at everyone else durin

5566
02:18:59,683 --> 02:18:59,819
g

5567
02:18:59,819 --> 02:19:00,846
that process, not necessarily

5568
02:19:00,846 --> 02:19:00,846


5569
02:19:00,846 --> 02:19:01,217
during this one.

5570
02:19:01,217 --> 02:19:02,731
so I'll vote no on it.

5571
02:19:02,731 --> 02:19:04,711
>> mayor: thank you,

5572
02:19:04,711 --> 02:19:05,293
commissioner eastman.

5573
02:19:05,293 --> 02:19:07,055
any other comments?

5574
02:19:07,055 --> 02:19:09,033
commissioner book?

5575
02:19:09,033 --> 02:19:11,135
>> yeah, I'm similarly situated,

5576
02:19:11,135 --> 02:19:11,135


5577
02:19:11,135 --> 02:19:14,033
mr. Mayor, commissioner eastma

5578
02:19:14,033 --> 02:19:14,033
n,

5579
02:19:14,033 --> 02:19:15,241
that I think we can address tha

5580
02:19:15,241 --> 02:19:15,241
t

5581
02:19:15,241 --> 02:19:16,405
and I think that would be

5582
02:19:16,405 --> 02:19:17,105
appropriate to put that in the

5583
02:19:17,105 --> 02:19:17,398


5584
02:19:17,398 --> 02:19:20,005
middle of the fiscal year in th

5585
02:19:20,005 --> 02:19:20,005
e

5586
02:19:20,005 --> 02:19:20,998
budget process.

5587
02:19:20,998 --> 02:19:21,901
I think it would be supported.

5588
02:19:21,901 --> 02:19:21,901


5589
02:19:21,901 --> 02:19:23,097
it's reasonable.

5590
02:19:23,097 --> 02:19:24,575
it's incremental.

5591
02:19:24,575 --> 02:19:25,811
I think probably merely because

5592
02:19:25,811 --> 02:19:25,811


5593
02:19:25,811 --> 02:19:27,371
we're six months in and we nee

5594
02:19:27,371 --> 02:19:27,575
d

5595
02:19:27,575 --> 02:19:29,041
a little more clarity, we

5596
02:19:29,041 --> 02:19:30,141
probably shouldn't do that at

5597
02:19:30,141 --> 02:19:30,141


5598
02:19:30,141 --> 02:19:30,713
this point.

5599
02:19:30,713 --> 02:19:31,665
I think we have another -- jus

5600
02:19:31,665 --> 02:19:31,843
t

5601
02:19:31,843 --> 02:19:33,147
the fact I look ahead as we all

5602
02:19:33,147 --> 02:19:33,275


5603
02:19:33,275 --> 02:19:36,118
do and look at the other budge

5604
02:19:36,118 --> 02:19:36,321
t

5605
02:19:36,321 --> 02:19:37,666
requests that are coming, and w

5606
02:19:37,666 --> 02:19:37,666
e

5607
02:19:37,666 --> 02:19:39,331
kind of have to weigh them all

5608
02:19:39,331 --> 02:19:39,964


5609
02:19:39,964 --> 02:19:41,416
collectively and kind of at a

5610
02:19:41,416 --> 02:19:41,416


5611
02:19:41,416 --> 02:19:43,138
30,000-foot level from what's

5612
02:19:43,138 --> 02:19:43,138


5613
02:19:43,138 --> 02:19:43,138
best.

5614
02:19:43,138 --> 02:19:44,631
so I support it.

5615
02:19:44,631 --> 02:19:46,056
I just don't support it today.

5616
02:19:46,056 --> 02:19:46,056


5617
02:19:46,056 --> 02:19:47,687
and that's because we need to

5618
02:19:47,687 --> 02:19:47,687


5619
02:19:47,687 --> 02:19:49,535
see what our total financial

5620
02:19:49,535 --> 02:19:49,805
picture is.

5621
02:19:49,805 --> 02:19:50,414
thank you.

5622
02:19:50,414 --> 02:19:52,227
>> mayor: thank you,

5623
02:19:52,227 --> 02:19:53,235
commissioner book.  M

5624
02:19:53,235 --> 02:19:53,235
m sorry.

5625
02:19:53,235 --> 02:19:55,207
commissioner willits.

5626
02:19:55,207 --> 02:19:56,733
>> thank you, mr. Mayor.

5627
02:19:56,733 --> 02:19:58,473
so I have similar concerns abo

5628
02:19:58,473 --> 02:19:58,473
ut

5629
02:19:58,473 --> 02:20:00,071
the full, how we build out

5630
02:20:00,071 --> 02:20:02,337
budget and the level of servic

5631
02:20:02,337 --> 02:20:02,337
e,

5632
02:20:02,337 --> 02:20:04,109
but I just want to remind folk

5633
02:20:04,109 --> 02:20:04,109
s,

5634
02:20:04,109 --> 02:20:06,079
when we talk about the core

5635
02:20:06,079 --> 02:20:07,315
functions of the city.

5636
02:20:07,315 --> 02:20:09,079
this is in our charter.

5637
02:20:09,079 --> 02:20:11,130
public safety is in a lot of

5638
02:20:11,130 --> 02:20:13,319
different places throughout the

5639
02:20:13,319 --> 02:20:13,601


5640
02:20:13,601 --> 02:20:15,216
state charter, ordinances, but

5641
02:20:15,216 --> 02:20:15,353


5642
02:20:15,353 --> 02:20:17,589
the office of auditor and the

5643
02:20:17,589 --> 02:20:17,589


5644
02:20:17,589 --> 02:20:19,753
job to be done is a core servic

5645
02:20:19,753 --> 02:20:19,753
e

5646
02:20:19,753 --> 02:20:21,300
of the city.

5647
02:20:21,300 --> 02:20:23,077
it is a service to ourselves o

5648
02:20:23,077 --> 02:20:23,223
n

5649
02:20:23,223 --> 02:20:24,640
behalf of our residents.

5650
02:20:24,640 --> 02:20:28,743
and so it is -- it is tough

5651
02:20:28,743 --> 02:20:29,728
because, you know, there's a

5652
02:20:29,728 --> 02:20:30,473
charter office for a reason.

5653
02:20:30,473 --> 02:20:33,943
the voters put it there.

5654
02:20:33,943 --> 02:20:36,107
and so yeah, it is tough.

5655
02:20:36,107 --> 02:20:38,473
I know it's an amount of money

5656
02:20:38,473 --> 02:20:38,657


5657
02:20:38,657 --> 02:20:39,547
that doesn't seem like it is t

5658
02:20:39,547 --> 02:20:39,547
he

5659
02:20:39,547 --> 02:20:40,580
toughest decision in the world,

5660
02:20:40,580 --> 02:20:40,895


5661
02:20:40,895 --> 02:20:43,113
but I fully understand the

5662
02:20:43,113 --> 02:20:45,349
weight of the decision about

5663
02:20:45,349 --> 02:20:45,349
this.

5664
02:20:45,349 --> 02:20:46,983
thank you, mr. Mayor.

5665
02:20:46,983 --> 02:20:49,455
>> mayor: thank you,

5666
02:20:49,455 --> 02:20:50,607
commissioner willits.

5667
02:20:50,607 --> 02:20:51,771
madam clerk, since this is goi

5668
02:20:51,771 --> 02:20:51,771
ng

5669
02:20:51,771 --> 02:20:54,397
to be a close vote, call the

5670
02:20:54,397 --> 02:20:55,329
roll please so I don't miss t I

5671
02:20:55,329 --> 02:20:55,329
.

5672
02:20:55,329 --> 02:20:57,097
>> yes, mr. Mayor.

5673
02:20:57,097 --> 02:20:57,853
commissioner book.

5674
02:20:57,853 --> 02:20:58,193
>> nay.

5675
02:20:58,193 --> 02:20:59,575
>> a commissioner chestnut

5676
02:20:59,575 --> 02:21:00,845
>> no.

5677
02:21:00,845 --> 02:21:02,137
>> commissioner duncan-walker.

5678
02:21:02,137 --> 02:21:02,137


5679
02:21:02,137 --> 02:21:03,003
>> aye.

5680
02:21:03,003 --> 02:21:04,379
>> commissioner eastman.

5681
02:21:04,379 --> 02:21:05,001
>> nay.

5682
02:21:05,001 --> 02:21:06,565
>> commissioner ingle.

5683
02:21:06,565 --> 02:21:09,775
>> aye.

5684
02:21:09,775 --> 02:21:11,915
>> mayor pro tem willits.

5685
02:21:11,915 --> 02:21:13,081
>> aye.

5686
02:21:13,081 --> 02:21:13,841
>> mayor ward.

5687
02:21:13,841 --> 02:21:14,757
>> aye.

5688
02:21:14,757 --> 02:21:18,615
>> that passes 4-3 with book,

5689
02:21:18,615 --> 02:21:18,615


5690
02:21:18,615 --> 02:21:20,221
eastman and chestnut in dissent.

5691
02:21:20,221 --> 02:21:20,221


5692
02:21:20,221 --> 02:21:23,253
madam clerk?

5693
02:21:23,253 --> 02:21:24,163
>> all right.

5694
02:21:24,163 --> 02:21:29,693
mr. Mayor, we're on to our

5695
02:21:29,693 --> 02:21:31,533
2026-235 request to amend budge

5696
02:21:31,533 --> 02:21:31,533
t

5697
02:21:31,533 --> 02:21:33,631
for office of the city auditor

5698
02:21:33,631 --> 02:21:34,165


5699
02:21:34,165 --> 02:21:35,447
with recommendation the city

5700
02:21:35,447 --> 02:21:37,531
commission authorize human

5701
02:21:37,531 --> 02:21:38,199
resources to unfreeze --

5702
02:21:38,199 --> 02:21:38,681
>> mayor: no.

5703
02:21:38,681 --> 02:21:40,375
>> an I apologize.

5704
02:21:40,375 --> 02:21:40,375
sorry.

5705
02:21:40,375 --> 02:21:42,834
I'll get there.

5706
02:21:42,834 --> 02:21:43,883
hold on one minute.

5707
02:21:43,883 --> 02:21:45,442
>> mayor: we're going to

5708
02:21:45,442 --> 02:21:46,633
reconsider the whole thing?

5709
02:21:46,633 --> 02:21:47,245
>> no.

5710
02:21:47,245 --> 02:21:48,383
we are moving on.

5711
02:21:48,383 --> 02:21:48,383
sorry.

5712
02:21:48,383 --> 02:21:53,588
2025-170, contract for red lig

5713
02:21:53,588 --> 02:21:53,588
ht

5714
02:21:53,588 --> 02:21:55,632
detection camera enforcement

5715
02:21:55,632 --> 02:21:56,345
system between redspeed florida

5716
02:21:56,345 --> 02:21:56,525


5717
02:21:56,525 --> 02:21:59,395
llc and the city of gainesvill

5718
02:21:59,395 --> 02:21:59,395
e.

5719
02:21:59,395 --> 02:22:00,856
the recommendation the city

5720
02:22:00,856 --> 02:22:01,793
commission approve the contrac

5721
02:22:01,793 --> 02:22:02,023
t

5722
02:22:02,023 --> 02:22:04,099
with redspeed florida llc and

5723
02:22:04,099 --> 02:22:04,099


5724
02:22:04,099 --> 02:22:07,135
authorize the city manager or

5725
02:22:07,135 --> 02:22:07,135


5726
02:22:07,135 --> 02:22:08,771
designee to take up the redspee

5727
02:22:08,771 --> 02:22:08,771
d

5728
02:22:08,771 --> 02:22:09,685
florida contract and execute a

5729
02:22:09,685 --> 02:22:09,685
ll

5730
02:22:09,685 --> 02:22:11,338
documents and contracts related

5731
02:22:11,338 --> 02:22:11,338


5732
02:22:11,338 --> 02:22:13,041
subject to approval of the cit

5733
02:22:13,041 --> 02:22:13,509
y

5734
02:22:13,509 --> 02:22:14,947
attorney as to form and

5735
02:22:14,947 --> 02:22:14,947
legality.

5736
02:22:14,947 --> 02:22:16,139
>> mayor: welcome.

5737
02:22:16,139 --> 02:22:18,244
>> good afternoon, mayor, city

5738
02:22:18,244 --> 02:22:18,841


5739
02:22:18,841 --> 02:22:19,507
commissioners, mr. Manager.

5740
02:22:19,507 --> 02:22:22,953
thank you for having me today.

5741
02:22:22,953 --> 02:22:22,953


5742
02:22:22,953 --> 02:22:25,817
this is part of our florida

5743
02:22:25,817 --> 02:22:27,057
state statute requirement, whi

5744
02:22:27,057 --> 02:22:27,057
ch

5745
02:22:27,057 --> 02:22:29,351
mandates that we bring this

5746
02:22:29,351 --> 02:22:30,024
contract back to you.

5747
02:22:30,024 --> 02:22:32,391
allow it to not go on a consent

5748
02:22:32,391 --> 02:22:32,565


5749
02:22:32,565 --> 02:22:35,021
agenda so if the public had a

5750
02:22:35,021 --> 02:22:35,021


5751
02:22:35,021 --> 02:22:35,775
comment about it that they could

5752
02:22:35,775 --> 02:22:35,775


5753
02:22:35,775 --> 02:22:36,830
make a comment about it.

5754
02:22:36,830 --> 02:22:40,675
we did on may 15 adopt the

5755
02:22:40,675 --> 02:22:43,700
ordinance 2025-170, and it's

5756
02:22:43,700 --> 02:22:45,265
related to, of course, the

5757
02:22:45,265 --> 02:22:47,441
contract for the red light

5758
02:22:47,441 --> 02:22:47,441
cameras.

5759
02:22:47,441 --> 02:22:48,131
this is the contract.

5760
02:22:48,131 --> 02:22:49,949
this is the backup items of th

5761
02:22:49,949 --> 02:22:50,153
e

5762
02:22:50,153 --> 02:22:52,589
scope of services and how we

5763
02:22:52,589 --> 02:22:56,405
will move forward, and so we

5764
02:22:56,405 --> 02:22:58,215
have been in contact both with

5765
02:22:58,215 --> 02:22:58,517


5766
02:22:58,517 --> 02:23:00,883
the vendor and lee libby has

5767
02:23:00,883 --> 02:23:02,451
helped us all the way through

5768
02:23:02,451 --> 02:23:02,451


5769
02:23:02,451 --> 02:23:03,555
this because it is new for us a

5770
02:23:03,555 --> 02:23:03,555
t

5771
02:23:03,555 --> 02:23:04,605
the gainesville police

5772
02:23:04,605 --> 02:23:04,605
department.

5773
02:23:04,605 --> 02:23:06,588
I'm here for any questions or

5774
02:23:06,588 --> 02:23:06,588


5775
02:23:06,588 --> 02:23:09,325
any of that, and to allow for

5776
02:23:09,325 --> 02:23:09,325


5777
02:23:09,325 --> 02:23:09,962
public comment.

5778
02:23:09,962 --> 02:23:10,469
>> mayor: very good.

5779
02:23:10,469 --> 02:23:10,921
thank you.

5780
02:23:10,921 --> 02:23:12,560
>> and I would remind everyone,

5781
02:23:12,560 --> 02:23:12,993


5782
02:23:12,993 --> 02:23:14,369
this is about the red light

5783
02:23:14,369 --> 02:23:16,129
cameras, not about school zone

5784
02:23:16,129 --> 02:23:16,533


5785
02:23:16,533 --> 02:23:17,031
cameras to be specific.

5786
02:23:17,031 --> 02:23:18,797
I know that is easy to conflate

5787
02:23:18,797 --> 02:23:19,935


5788
02:23:19,935 --> 02:23:20,147
the two.

5789
02:23:20,147 --> 02:23:22,911
we're not on school zones

5790
02:23:22,911 --> 02:23:23,293
contract just yet.

5791
02:23:23,293 --> 02:23:25,054
is there any public comment?

5792
02:23:25,054 --> 02:23:27,243
>> there is no public comment.

5793
02:23:27,243 --> 02:23:27,243


5794
02:23:27,243 --> 02:23:28,209
>> mayor: okay.

5795
02:23:28,209 --> 02:23:28,785
all right.

5796
02:23:28,785 --> 02:23:29,943
commissioner book.

5797
02:23:29,943 --> 02:23:32,215
>> I remain fully in support.

5798
02:23:32,215 --> 02:23:33,853
we have taken several votes for

5799
02:23:33,853 --> 02:23:33,915


5800
02:23:33,915 --> 02:23:35,481
both of these forms of

5801
02:23:35,481 --> 02:23:35,481
technology.

5802
02:23:35,481 --> 02:23:36,851
it is all about public safety,

5803
02:23:36,851 --> 02:23:37,165


5804
02:23:37,165 --> 02:23:38,487
and it's definitely not about

5805
02:23:38,487 --> 02:23:38,487


5806
02:23:38,487 --> 02:23:38,487
revenue.

5807
02:23:38,487 --> 02:23:40,237
if anything, it appears that o

5808
02:23:40,237 --> 02:23:40,237
ur

5809
02:23:40,237 --> 02:23:42,407
analysis shows that it will be

5810
02:23:42,407 --> 02:23:42,663


5811
02:23:42,663 --> 02:23:43,165
revenue neutral.

5812
02:23:43,165 --> 02:23:46,561
I suspect it will probably be

5813
02:23:46,561 --> 02:23:46,561


5814
02:23:46,561 --> 02:23:47,707
revenue negative for plan

5815
02:23:47,707 --> 02:23:48,633
implementation, at least for a

5816
02:23:48,633 --> 02:23:48,633


5817
02:23:48,633 --> 02:23:48,633
while.

5818
02:23:48,633 --> 02:23:51,805
definitely has nothing to do

5819
02:23:51,805 --> 02:23:52,837
with fees and definitely has

5820
02:23:52,837 --> 02:23:54,235
nothing to do with leveraging

5821
02:23:54,235 --> 02:23:54,235


5822
02:23:54,235 --> 02:23:56,479
safety and the fact that we

5823
02:23:56,479 --> 02:23:57,671
identified some of our most

5824
02:23:57,671 --> 02:23:59,205
dangerous areas to pilot it

5825
02:23:59,205 --> 02:24:01,015
means that maybe a year down t

5826
02:24:01,015 --> 02:24:01,015
he

5827
02:24:01,015 --> 02:24:02,480
road if we've not done it well

5828
02:24:02,480 --> 02:24:02,919
,

5829
02:24:02,919 --> 02:24:03,931
it is not implemented in a way

5830
02:24:03,931 --> 02:24:04,326


5831
02:24:04,326 --> 02:24:05,921
that gives trust to the

5832
02:24:05,921 --> 02:24:07,521
community, then the commission

5833
02:24:07,521 --> 02:24:07,751


5834
02:24:07,751 --> 02:24:08,960
has the ability to ramp it back

5835
02:24:08,960 --> 02:24:08,960
.

5836
02:24:08,960 --> 02:24:10,778
that is the whole point of the

5837
02:24:10,778 --> 02:24:10,925


5838
02:24:10,925 --> 02:24:10,925
pilot.

5839
02:24:10,925 --> 02:24:14,756
I say this just as another

5840
02:24:14,756 --> 02:24:16,017
bureaucratic step in support,

5841
02:24:16,017 --> 02:24:16,017


5842
02:24:16,017 --> 02:24:18,437
and so with that, I recommend

5843
02:24:18,437 --> 02:24:18,437


5844
02:24:18,437 --> 02:24:20,833
approval of 2025-170, approve

5845
02:24:20,833 --> 02:24:20,833


5846
02:24:20,833 --> 02:24:22,202
the contract with redspeed,

5847
02:24:22,202 --> 02:24:25,531
authorize the city manage

5848
02:24:25,531 --> 02:24:26,153
areer and

5849
02:24:26,153 --> 02:24:27,377
designee to accept the contrac

5850
02:24:27,377 --> 02:24:27,377
t,

5851
02:24:27,377 --> 02:24:29,615
execute the documents and

5852
02:24:29,615 --> 02:24:30,509
contracts subject to the

5853
02:24:30,509 --> 02:24:31,076
approval of the city attorney.

5854
02:24:31,076 --> 02:24:31,076


5855
02:24:31,076 --> 02:24:32,217
>> second.

5856
02:24:32,217 --> 02:24:34,056
>> mayor: thank you,

5857
02:24:34,056 --> 02:24:34,395
commissioner book.

5858
02:24:34,395 --> 02:24:35,511
commissioner willits?

5859
02:24:35,511 --> 02:24:36,615
>> thank you, mr. Mayor.

5860
02:24:36,615 --> 02:24:38,016
my understanding it is a

5861
02:24:38,016 --> 02:24:39,721
three-year contract with two

5862
02:24:39,721 --> 02:24:41,219
potential extensions of a year

5863
02:24:41,219 --> 02:24:41,219
.

5864
02:24:41,219 --> 02:24:44,827
but it can be terminated early?

5865
02:24:44,827 --> 02:24:44,827


5866
02:24:44,827 --> 02:24:46,301
pursuant to the contract.

5867
02:24:46,301 --> 02:24:49,189
how -- what are the terms for

5868
02:24:49,189 --> 02:24:49,189


5869
02:24:49,189 --> 02:24:49,897
terminating early?

5870
02:24:49,897 --> 02:24:51,803
if we only -- if we got a year

5871
02:24:51,803 --> 02:24:52,025


5872
02:24:52,025 --> 02:24:53,398
into it and we don't like it o

5873
02:24:53,398 --> 02:24:53,533
r

5874
02:24:53,533 --> 02:24:54,363
a future commission doesn't like

5875
02:24:54,363 --> 02:24:54,363


5876
02:24:54,363 --> 02:24:54,363
it.

5877
02:24:54,363 --> 02:24:59,137
>> so if for some reason we --

5878
02:24:59,137 --> 02:24:59,245


5879
02:24:59,245 --> 02:25:00,635
if legality in the state level

5880
02:25:00,635 --> 02:25:01,107


5881
02:25:01,107 --> 02:25:02,667
like the statute went away that

5882
02:25:02,667 --> 02:25:02,937


5883
02:25:02,937 --> 02:25:04,208
allows us to have them, at any

5884
02:25:04,208 --> 02:25:04,504


5885
02:25:04,504 --> 02:25:06,975
time we wanted to be able to

5886
02:25:06,975 --> 02:25:07,844
negate that contract.

5887
02:25:07,844 --> 02:25:10,057
we also put a stipulation in

5888
02:25:10,057 --> 02:25:10,057
there.

5889
02:25:10,057 --> 02:25:11,680
I think it's 30 days.

5890
02:25:11,680 --> 02:25:13,532
letting each other know if for

5891
02:25:13,532 --> 02:25:13,681


5892
02:25:13,681 --> 02:25:15,261
some reason, maybe the camera I

5893
02:25:15,261 --> 02:25:15,261
s

5894
02:25:15,261 --> 02:25:16,250
not functional.

5895
02:25:16,250 --> 02:25:19,497
maybe we are not getting enoug

5896
02:25:19,497 --> 02:25:19,809
h

5897
02:25:19,809 --> 02:25:20,894
-- the decision has changed and

5898
02:25:20,894 --> 02:25:21,023


5899
02:25:21,023 --> 02:25:23,537
is not supported by the

5900
02:25:23,537 --> 02:25:26,071
legislative body at that time,

5901
02:25:26,071 --> 02:25:26,266


5902
02:25:26,266 --> 02:25:27,200
we could ask --

5903
02:25:27,200 --> 02:25:27,200
yes.

5904
02:25:27,200 --> 02:25:30,331
>> with a simple majority vote

5905
02:25:30,331 --> 02:25:30,331


5906
02:25:30,331 --> 02:25:32,371
of the commission, this contract

5907
02:25:32,371 --> 02:25:32,371


5908
02:25:32,371 --> 02:25:34,266
can be and -- and sorry I did

5909
02:25:34,266 --> 02:25:34,266


5910
02:25:34,266 --> 02:25:35,373
not go look through for

5911
02:25:35,373 --> 02:25:35,373
penalties.

5912
02:25:35,373 --> 02:25:40,137
just so that I understand, you

5913
02:25:40,137 --> 02:25:40,137


5914
02:25:40,137 --> 02:25:40,943
know, cancellation, terminatio

5915
02:25:40,943 --> 02:25:40,943
n,

5916
02:25:40,943 --> 02:25:44,631
for cause, without cause, loss

5917
02:25:44,631 --> 02:25:44,781


5918
02:25:44,781 --> 02:25:45,415
of funding.

5919
02:25:45,415 --> 02:25:47,735
so I just want and maybe this

5920
02:25:47,735 --> 02:25:47,735
is

5921
02:25:47,735 --> 02:25:49,341
deeper, so it's an attorney

5922
02:25:49,341 --> 02:25:49,341
question.

5923
02:25:49,341 --> 02:25:51,777
I just want to fully understand

5924
02:25:51,777 --> 02:25:51,777
.

5925
02:25:51,777 --> 02:25:54,091
if we end up just hating it f

5926
02:25:54,091 --> 02:25:54,091


5927
02:25:54,091 --> 02:25:56,169
the public hates it, everybody

5928
02:25:56,169 --> 02:25:57,395


5929
02:25:57,395 --> 02:26:00,601
hates it, whatever, can we jus

5930
02:26:00,601 --> 02:26:01,133
t

5931
02:26:01,133 --> 02:26:03,333
make a -- for no cause, besides

5932
02:26:03,333 --> 02:26:03,531


5933
02:26:03,531 --> 02:26:06,139
it is unpopular decision to

5934
02:26:06,139 --> 02:26:07,157
terminate what kind of -- I use

5935
02:26:07,157 --> 02:26:07,677


5936
02:26:07,677 --> 02:26:09,417
the term penalty because I don

5937
02:26:09,417 --> 02:26:09,417
't

5938
02:26:09,417 --> 02:26:10,137
know any better word.

5939
02:26:10,137 --> 02:26:11,978
can we get out of it at some

5940
02:26:11,978 --> 02:26:12,939
point before the three years?

5941
02:26:12,939 --> 02:26:15,137
>> so all of our contracts with

5942
02:26:15,137 --> 02:26:15,341


5943
02:26:15,341 --> 02:26:18,255
the city say the vast majority

5944
02:26:18,255 --> 02:26:18,687


5945
02:26:18,687 --> 02:26:20,883
have a termination for

5946
02:26:20,883 --> 02:26:20,883
conveyance.

5947
02:26:20,883 --> 02:26:22,591
this one says after ayear.

5948
02:26:22,591 --> 02:26:24,717
with 30 days notice, we can

5949
02:26:24,717 --> 02:26:25,453
cancel the agreement.

5950
02:26:25,453 --> 02:26:26,253
>> a year.

5951
02:26:26,253 --> 02:26:27,660
>> and give it a year.

5952
02:26:27,660 --> 02:26:31,230
and then if it's just, like,

5953
02:26:31,230 --> 02:26:32,817
outside -- now, obviously, les

5954
02:26:32,817 --> 02:26:33,927
s

5955
02:26:33,927 --> 02:26:35,009
than a year for cause, there's

5956
02:26:35,009 --> 02:26:35,369


5957
02:26:35,369 --> 02:26:36,279
some listed in the contract.

5958
02:26:36,279 --> 02:26:37,307
that makes sense.

5959
02:26:37,307 --> 02:26:38,905
if it's really not working and

5960
02:26:38,905 --> 02:26:39,067


5961
02:26:39,067 --> 02:26:40,385
they really failed and if

5962
02:26:40,385 --> 02:26:41,403
there's cause that we can prov

5963
02:26:41,403 --> 02:26:41,403
e.

5964
02:26:41,403 --> 02:26:43,307
but I'm thinking of the no

5965
02:26:43,307 --> 02:26:44,385
cause, merely convenience, giv

5966
02:26:44,385 --> 02:26:44,675
e

5967
02:26:44,675 --> 02:26:47,473
it a year, and then 30 day,

5968
02:26:47,473 --> 02:26:49,226
which makes me feel a little

5969
02:26:49,226 --> 02:26:51,845
more comfortable with it so try

5970
02:26:51,845 --> 02:26:53,017


5971
02:26:53,017 --> 02:26:54,151
it out on just two.

5972
02:26:54,151 --> 02:26:56,649
does this contract allow

5973
02:26:56,649 --> 02:26:58,255
expansion of the two to more

5974
02:26:58,255 --> 02:26:59,891
than two should we want within

5975
02:26:59,891 --> 02:27:00,065


5976
02:27:00,065 --> 02:27:03,263
this three-year period?

5977
02:27:03,263 --> 02:27:05,797
>> it is my understanding from

5978
02:27:05,797 --> 02:27:06,329


5979
02:27:06,329 --> 02:27:08,203
lee that we would have to enter

5980
02:27:08,203 --> 02:27:08,563


5981
02:27:08,563 --> 02:27:09,899
into an addendum to the contract

5982
02:27:09,899 --> 02:27:09,899


5983
02:27:09,899 --> 02:27:11,865
if we were going to do that.

5984
02:27:11,865 --> 02:27:14,177
it does allow for some leeway

5985
02:27:14,177 --> 02:27:14,177


5986
02:27:14,177 --> 02:27:14,513
for that.

5987
02:27:14,513 --> 02:27:16,973
>> it would involve the same

5988
02:27:16,973 --> 02:27:17,827
steps of, you know, it's got t

5989
02:27:17,827 --> 02:27:18,009
o

5990
02:27:18,009 --> 02:27:18,406
come before it.

5991
02:27:18,406 --> 02:27:21,411
it can't be on continue sent I

5992
02:27:21,411 --> 02:27:21,581
f

5993
02:27:21,581 --> 02:27:22,614
we do an addendum.

5994
02:27:22,614 --> 02:27:24,247
>> I apologize.

5995
02:27:24,247 --> 02:27:25,859
that is a legal question I don

5996
02:27:25,859 --> 02:27:25,859
't

5997
02:27:25,859 --> 02:27:27,085
have the answer to.

5998
02:27:27,085 --> 02:27:28,133
>> mr. City attorney?

5999
02:27:28,133 --> 02:27:30,887
>> mr. Mayor, this contract, I

6000
02:27:30,887 --> 02:27:30,927


6001
02:27:30,927 --> 02:27:32,087
think, is for the two

6002
02:27:32,087 --> 02:27:34,903
intersections that were

6003
02:27:34,903 --> 02:27:34,903
identified.

6004
02:27:34,903 --> 02:27:37,195
and I'm not aware of any reaso

6005
02:27:37,195 --> 02:27:38,225
n

6006
02:27:38,225 --> 02:27:39,601
why they wouldn't be willing t

6007
02:27:39,601 --> 02:27:39,861
o

6008
02:27:39,861 --> 02:27:44,541
expand fit  it if we wanted to

6009
02:27:44,541 --> 02:27:44,585


6010
02:27:44,585 --> 02:27:44,827
add --

6011
02:27:44,827 --> 02:27:47,443
>> my question is, would this

6012
02:27:47,443 --> 02:27:47,443


6013
02:27:47,443 --> 02:27:50,113
return to us in a similar

6014
02:27:50,113 --> 02:27:50,113
fashion?

6015
02:27:50,113 --> 02:27:52,209
would it go through the same

6016
02:27:52,209 --> 02:27:52,209
process?

6017
02:27:52,209 --> 02:27:54,209
>> if you add additional

6018
02:27:54,209 --> 02:27:55,710
intersections, it would come

6019
02:27:55,710 --> 02:27:56,137
back before you.

6020
02:27:56,137 --> 02:27:58,448
>> a yes, statute requires all

6021
02:27:58,448 --> 02:27:58,848


6022
02:27:58,848 --> 02:28:00,887
approvals from the governing

6023
02:28:00,887 --> 02:28:02,211
body to be done on a regular

6024
02:28:02,211 --> 02:28:03,686
agenda item for all these

6025
02:28:03,686 --> 02:28:05,951
automated enforcement efforts.

6026
02:28:05,951 --> 02:28:05,951


6027
02:28:05,951 --> 02:28:07,457
the ordinance you adopted liste

6028
02:28:07,457 --> 02:28:07,457
d

6029
02:28:07,457 --> 02:28:09,362
additional intersections as an

6030
02:28:09,362 --> 02:28:10,324


6031
02:28:10,324 --> 02:28:11,166
authorization, but the

6032
02:28:11,166 --> 02:28:12,663
contracts, yes, would have to

6033
02:28:12,663 --> 02:28:12,663


6034
02:28:12,663 --> 02:28:13,461
come back and that is for schoo

6035
02:28:13,461 --> 02:28:13,461
l

6036
02:28:13,461 --> 02:28:14,703
zones and for the red lights.

6037
02:28:14,703 --> 02:28:15,733
>> perfect.

6038
02:28:15,733 --> 02:28:17,329
I do remember a list.

6039
02:28:17,329 --> 02:28:18,825
and the contract comes back.

6040
02:28:18,825 --> 02:28:19,738
that's wonderful.

6041
02:28:19,738 --> 02:28:21,485
I would just say, I think I'm

6042
02:28:21,485 --> 02:28:21,485


6043
02:28:21,485 --> 02:28:23,105
going to support this, and

6044
02:28:23,105 --> 02:28:23,770
because we are down the road.

6045
02:28:23,770 --> 02:28:25,539
we're getting down on this.

6046
02:28:25,539 --> 02:28:27,995
but I do like the idea, and my

6047
02:28:27,995 --> 02:28:28,945


6048
02:28:28,945 --> 02:28:30,115
colleagues agree, that I want a

6049
02:28:30,115 --> 02:28:30,348


6050
02:28:30,348 --> 02:28:31,479
real one-year deadline that we

6051
02:28:31,479 --> 02:28:31,653


6052
02:28:31,653 --> 02:28:33,081
bring back and look at it so

6053
02:28:33,081 --> 02:28:34,386
that we know and if it's

6054
02:28:34,386 --> 02:28:36,369
something we don't like, that w

6055
02:28:36,369 --> 02:28:36,369
e

6056
02:28:36,369 --> 02:28:38,885
look at data, hear community

6057
02:28:38,885 --> 02:28:40,323
feedback, you know, that kind o

6058
02:28:40,323 --> 02:28:40,323
f

6059
02:28:40,323 --> 02:28:41,495
set in stone that ewith're goi

6060
02:28:41,495 --> 02:28:41,495
ng

6061
02:28:41,495 --> 02:28:42,455
to do in a year.

6062
02:28:42,455 --> 02:28:44,837
>> statute actually requires a

6063
02:28:44,837 --> 02:28:45,807
n

6064
02:28:45,807 --> 02:28:46,558
annual report with a regular

6065
02:28:46,558 --> 02:28:47,827
agenda item on the regular

6066
02:28:47,827 --> 02:28:49,229
meeting, not on consent as well

6067
02:28:49,229 --> 02:28:49,229
.

6068
02:28:49,229 --> 02:28:52,139
>> not everything we do is

6069
02:28:52,139 --> 02:28:52,873
mandated by the state

6070
02:28:52,873 --> 02:28:54,261
government, but in this case, I

6071
02:28:54,261 --> 02:28:54,303


6072
02:28:54,303 --> 02:28:54,851
think --

6073
02:28:54,851 --> 02:28:56,437
it shows that there is an

6074
02:28:56,437 --> 02:28:56,437
interest.

6075
02:28:56,437 --> 02:28:58,041
and so I think I can support

6076
02:28:58,041 --> 02:28:58,041
this.

6077
02:28:58,041 --> 02:28:58,531
thank you.

6078
02:28:58,531 --> 02:29:00,006
>> mayor: thank you,

6079
02:29:00,006 --> 02:29:01,077
commissioner willits.

6080
02:29:01,077 --> 02:29:04,971
xhing commissionerening I I

6081
02:29:04,971 --> 02:29:04,971
think?

6082
02:29:04,971 --> 02:29:08,287
>> this is an issue I really

6083
02:29:08,287 --> 02:29:21,648
have beencommissioner ingle?

6084
02:29:21,648 --> 02:29:22,358
>> this is an issue I really is

6085
02:29:22,358 --> 02:29:23,989
sue

6086
02:29:23,989 --> 02:29:25,916
of folks who don't get mail and

6087
02:29:25,916 --> 02:29:26,001


6088
02:29:26,001 --> 02:29:27,579
move a lot and missing something

6089
02:29:27,579 --> 02:29:27,579


6090
02:29:27,579 --> 02:29:28,925
like this and turning from a

6091
02:29:28,925 --> 02:29:29,882
fine they didn't know they had

6092
02:29:29,882 --> 02:29:30,175


6093
02:29:30,175 --> 02:29:32,410
into a suspended license and a

6094
02:29:32,410 --> 02:29:32,646


6095
02:29:32,646 --> 02:29:33,449
bench warrant and all the thing

6096
02:29:33,449 --> 02:29:33,449
s

6097
02:29:33,449 --> 02:29:34,310
that go along with that.

6098
02:29:34,310 --> 02:29:36,014
I really wrestled back and for

6099
02:29:36,014 --> 02:29:36,014
th

6100
02:29:36,014 --> 02:29:38,777
with those things.

6101
02:29:38,777 --> 02:29:41,041
in addition to that, there was

6102
02:29:41,041 --> 02:29:41,242


6103
02:29:41,242 --> 02:29:42,818
recently a case in south flori

6104
02:29:42,818 --> 02:29:42,818
da

6105
02:29:42,818 --> 02:29:46,819
where these cameras were

6106
02:29:46,819 --> 02:29:47,235
declared unconstitutional.

6107
02:29:47,235 --> 02:29:54,395
between those two things, I

6108
02:29:54,395 --> 02:29:56,405
would be more comfortable

6109
02:29:56,405 --> 02:29:57,573
waiting on actually executing

6110
02:29:57,573 --> 02:29:57,573


6111
02:29:57,573 --> 02:30:00,245
this contract until we had som

6112
02:30:00,245 --> 02:30:00,335
e

6113
02:30:00,335 --> 02:30:01,680
word back from the appeal that'

6114
02:30:01,680 --> 02:30:01,680
s

6115
02:30:01,680 --> 02:30:03,442
going on to that as to whether

6116
02:30:03,442 --> 02:30:03,605


6117
02:30:03,605 --> 02:30:05,019
or not these are going to

6118
02:30:05,019 --> 02:30:05,384
continue to be legal.

6119
02:30:05,384 --> 02:30:07,250
I don't want to go into putting

6120
02:30:07,250 --> 02:30:07,426


6121
02:30:07,426 --> 02:30:09,755
in the expense of getting

6122
02:30:09,755 --> 02:30:11,120
special magistrate, getting the

6123
02:30:11,120 --> 02:30:11,170


6124
02:30:11,170 --> 02:30:12,643
equipment to, or hiring someon

6125
02:30:12,643 --> 02:30:12,773
e

6126
02:30:12,773 --> 02:30:14,150
to review all the tickets, doi

6127
02:30:14,150 --> 02:30:14,150
ng

6128
02:30:14,150 --> 02:30:15,437
all the things that we would

6129
02:30:15,437 --> 02:30:17,057
have to do to make this

6130
02:30:17,057 --> 02:30:19,156
functional, only to find out a

6131
02:30:19,156 --> 02:30:19,286


6132
02:30:19,286 --> 02:30:21,389
few months from now that it's

6133
02:30:21,389 --> 02:30:21,389


6134
02:30:21,389 --> 02:30:24,264
not considered constitutional I

6135
02:30:24,264 --> 02:30:24,264
n

6136
02:30:24,264 --> 02:30:25,705
florida anymore.

6137
02:30:25,705 --> 02:30:30,598
I'm also a little, not

6138
02:30:30,598 --> 02:30:32,264
concerned, but curious, as to

6139
02:30:32,264 --> 02:30:32,264


6140
02:30:32,264 --> 02:30:33,140
whether or not the traffic

6141
02:30:33,140 --> 02:30:34,837
patterns that we used to make

6142
02:30:34,837 --> 02:30:34,837


6143
02:30:34,837 --> 02:30:37,305
this decision would hold up if

6144
02:30:37,305 --> 02:30:37,469


6145
02:30:37,469 --> 02:30:39,125
now that they're talking about

6146
02:30:39,125 --> 02:30:39,807


6147
02:30:39,807 --> 02:30:43,080
closing stephen foster and one

6148
02:30:43,080 --> 02:30:43,080


6149
02:30:43,080 --> 02:30:43,843
of the intersections we have

6150
02:30:43,843 --> 02:30:45,185
been looking at was the corner

6151
02:30:45,185 --> 02:30:45,626


6152
02:30:45,626 --> 02:30:47,150
of 6th and 23rd.

6153
02:30:47,150 --> 02:30:50,020
I would imagine a good deal of

6154
02:30:50,020 --> 02:30:50,417


6155
02:30:50,417 --> 02:30:51,309
that traffic was some school

6156
02:30:51,309 --> 02:30:51,687
traffic for that.

6157
02:30:51,687 --> 02:30:53,922
so I'm a no on this today.

6158
02:30:53,922 --> 02:30:55,190
and I would say I would be jus

6159
02:30:55,190 --> 02:30:55,391
t

6160
02:30:55,391 --> 02:30:56,694
as happy pushing this off until

6161
02:30:56,694 --> 02:30:57,524


6162
02:30:57,524 --> 02:30:59,028
we've got some real answer as t

6163
02:30:59,028 --> 02:30:59,028
o

6164
02:30:59,028 --> 02:31:02,134
whether or not this is going t

6165
02:31:02,134 --> 02:31:02,254
o

6166
02:31:02,254 --> 02:31:04,802
continue to be found

6167
02:31:04,802 --> 02:31:07,238
unconstitutional and not barri

6168
02:31:07,238 --> 02:31:07,238
ng

6169
02:31:07,238 --> 02:31:08,168
the appeal in south florida.

6170
02:31:08,168 --> 02:31:09,850
that's where I am on it.

6171
02:31:09,850 --> 02:31:11,448
>> mayor: thank you,

6172
02:31:11,448 --> 02:31:12,567
commissioner ingle.

6173
02:31:12,567 --> 02:31:16,216
I will continue to be a yes on

6174
02:31:16,216 --> 02:31:16,613


6175
02:31:16,613 --> 02:31:16,613
this.

6176
02:31:16,613 --> 02:31:17,545
I have been through.

6177
02:31:17,545 --> 02:31:18,649
I understand the concerns.

6178
02:31:18,649 --> 02:31:22,264
the thing that we have not

6179
02:31:22,264 --> 02:31:23,288
talked about is the tremendous

6180
02:31:23,288 --> 02:31:23,894


6181
02:31:23,894 --> 02:31:25,643
danger, and I would almost -- I

6182
02:31:25,643 --> 02:31:25,984


6183
02:31:25,984 --> 02:31:28,389
won't call it an epidemic, but

6184
02:31:28,389 --> 02:31:28,484


6185
02:31:28,484 --> 02:31:29,726
close to that, of people runni

6186
02:31:29,726 --> 02:31:29,726
ng

6187
02:31:29,726 --> 02:31:30,201
red lights.

6188
02:31:30,201 --> 02:31:32,063
I watched three of them

6189
02:31:32,063 --> 02:31:34,855
yesterday in the space of half

6190
02:31:34,855 --> 02:31:35,099


6191
02:31:35,099 --> 02:31:35,444
an hour.

6192
02:31:35,444 --> 02:31:37,730
they weren't at these two

6193
02:31:37,730 --> 02:31:37,730
intersections.

6194
02:31:37,730 --> 02:31:39,587
these two intersections are the

6195
02:31:39,587 --> 02:31:39,587


6196
02:31:39,587 --> 02:31:43,175
ones that the data show us hav

6197
02:31:43,175 --> 02:31:43,340
e

6198
02:31:43,340 --> 02:31:45,347
the most trouble.

6199
02:31:45,347 --> 02:31:47,710
and some weren't even in the t

6200
02:31:47,710 --> 02:31:47,710
op

6201
02:31:47,710 --> 02:31:47,710
two.

6202
02:31:47,710 --> 02:31:50,073
public safety is a thing we ar

6203
02:31:50,073 --> 02:31:50,251
e

6204
02:31:50,251 --> 02:31:51,452
100%, as you mentioned earlier,

6205
02:31:51,452 --> 02:31:54,883


6206
02:31:54,883 --> 02:31:55,282
responsible for.

6207
02:31:55,282 --> 02:31:55,884
no question about that.

6208
02:31:55,884 --> 02:31:58,700
if we are committed to vision

6209
02:31:58,700 --> 02:31:58,700


6210
02:31:58,700 --> 02:32:00,515
zero, we've got to do something

6211
02:32:00,515 --> 02:32:00,686


6212
02:32:00,686 --> 02:32:04,827
to lower the number of people

6213
02:32:04,827 --> 02:32:04,827


6214
02:32:04,827 --> 02:32:05,266
running red lights.

6215
02:32:05,266 --> 02:32:06,472
if somebody's got a better idea

6216
02:32:06,472 --> 02:32:06,472
,

6217
02:32:06,472 --> 02:32:07,705
I'm all ears.

6218
02:32:07,705 --> 02:32:09,264
but until a better idea comes

6219
02:32:09,264 --> 02:32:09,264


6220
02:32:09,264 --> 02:32:11,443
along, I'm a yes on this.

6221
02:32:11,443 --> 02:32:14,245
is there any public comment,

6222
02:32:14,245 --> 02:32:15,073
madam clerk?

6223
02:32:15,073 --> 02:32:16,539
>> no public comment.

6224
02:32:16,539 --> 02:32:18,873
>> mayor: we have a motion on

6225
02:32:18,873 --> 02:32:18,873


6226
02:32:18,873 --> 02:32:19,124
the floor.

6227
02:32:19,124 --> 02:32:21,939
all in favor vote aye.

6228
02:32:21,939 --> 02:32:22,941
opposed nay.

6229
02:32:22,941 --> 02:32:24,676
that passes 6-1 with

6230
02:32:24,676 --> 02:32:25,455
commissioner ingle in dissent.

6231
02:32:25,455 --> 02:32:25,455


6232
02:32:25,455 --> 02:32:26,712
madam clerk?

6233
02:32:26,712 --> 02:32:30,220
>> mr. Mayor, that is our

6234
02:32:30,220 --> 02:32:30,618
morning agenda.

6235
02:32:30,618 --> 02:32:31,280
>> mayor: thank you.

6236
02:32:31,280 --> 02:32:32,208
commissioner duncan-walker?

6237
02:32:32,208 --> 02:32:34,222
>> mr. Mayor, I do have a quick

6238
02:32:34,222 --> 02:32:34,692


6239
02:32:34,692 --> 02:32:36,791
question with regards to the

6240
02:32:36,791 --> 02:32:37,328
previous agenda item.

6241
02:32:37,328 --> 02:32:39,058
thank you, commissioner ingle,

6242
02:32:39,058 --> 02:32:40,863


6243
02:32:40,863 --> 02:32:41,465
for your concerns.

6244
02:32:41,465 --> 02:32:44,514
the police advisory council tha

6245
02:32:44,514 --> 02:32:44,514
t

6246
02:32:44,514 --> 02:32:45,065
is seated.

6247
02:32:45,065 --> 02:32:46,571
is it possible to utilize them

6248
02:32:46,571 --> 02:32:46,768


6249
02:32:46,768 --> 02:32:48,874
in review of some of these cas

6250
02:32:48,874 --> 02:32:48,874
es

6251
02:32:48,874 --> 02:32:51,640
as they come through?

6252
02:32:51,640 --> 02:32:53,448
because what commissioner ingl

6253
02:32:53,448 --> 02:32:53,642
e

6254
02:32:53,642 --> 02:32:55,083
was stating is certainly not

6255
02:32:55,083 --> 02:32:56,044
anything that's lost on me.

6256
02:32:56,044 --> 02:33:00,549
and I wonder if there is a way

6257
02:33:00,549 --> 02:33:00,759


6258
02:33:00,759 --> 02:33:02,656
for us in an ongoing way as

6259
02:33:02,656 --> 02:33:03,820
opposed to at this year point

6260
02:33:03,820 --> 02:33:03,820


6261
02:33:03,820 --> 02:33:05,485
where we will have to review

6262
02:33:05,485 --> 02:33:07,262
this, that if we could kind of

6263
02:33:07,262 --> 02:33:08,054


6264
02:33:08,054 --> 02:33:09,090
have probably a more consistent

6265
02:33:09,090 --> 02:33:09,526


6266
02:33:09,526 --> 02:33:12,136
review and/or analysis of the

6267
02:33:12,136 --> 02:33:12,136


6268
02:33:12,136 --> 02:33:14,035
data that we're collecting, so

6269
02:33:14,035 --> 02:33:16,241
e can be more apprised of

6270
02:33:16,241 --> 02:33:16,900
what's actually happening.

6271
02:33:16,900 --> 02:33:20,207
is that a way it could be used

6272
02:33:20,207 --> 02:33:20,207
?

6273
02:33:20,207 --> 02:33:24,608
>> commission, sergeant lynn

6274
02:33:24,608 --> 02:33:26,978
valdez, traffic unit.

6275
02:33:26,978 --> 02:33:28,741
with the statutory requirement,

6276
02:33:28,741 --> 02:33:29,171


6277
02:33:29,171 --> 02:33:29,975
part of it is they would like

6278
02:33:29,975 --> 02:33:29,975


6279
02:33:29,975 --> 02:33:31,819
the public forum, but the vendo

6280
02:33:31,819 --> 02:33:31,819
r

6281
02:33:31,819 --> 02:33:34,259
actually produces reports and

6282
02:33:34,259 --> 02:33:34,259


6283
02:33:34,259 --> 02:33:35,625
statistical analysis that is

6284
02:33:35,625 --> 02:33:36,356
easily available to everybody.

6285
02:33:36,356 --> 02:33:36,356


6286
02:33:36,356 --> 02:33:39,025
so we could also present to the

6287
02:33:39,025 --> 02:33:39,183


6288
02:33:39,183 --> 02:33:40,128
police advisory commission.

6289
02:33:40,128 --> 02:33:41,761
but part of the formality is, I

6290
02:33:41,761 --> 02:33:41,761


6291
02:33:41,761 --> 02:33:44,961
believe, they want it in this

6292
02:33:44,961 --> 02:33:44,961


6293
02:33:44,961 --> 02:33:47,043
public setting on record to be

6294
02:33:47,043 --> 02:33:47,043


6295
02:33:47,043 --> 02:33:48,066
able to comment about what has

6296
02:33:48,066 --> 02:33:48,435


6297
02:33:48,435 --> 02:33:50,032
gone on in the previous year.

6298
02:33:50,032 --> 02:33:52,930
>> so that happens once per yea

6299
02:33:52,930 --> 02:33:52,930
r

6300
02:33:52,930 --> 02:33:53,913
is what you are talking about.

6301
02:33:53,913 --> 02:33:53,913


6302
02:33:53,913 --> 02:33:54,598
>> yes, ma'am.

6303
02:33:54,598 --> 02:33:56,576
>> what I am talking about is

6304
02:33:56,576 --> 02:33:56,576


6305
02:33:56,576 --> 02:33:58,306
the police advisory council tha

6306
02:33:58,306 --> 02:33:58,306
t

6307
02:33:58,306 --> 02:33:59,291
meets how often?

6308
02:33:59,291 --> 02:34:00,816
>> good morning, commissioner.

6309
02:34:00,816 --> 02:34:00,816


6310
02:34:00,816 --> 02:34:02,309
good morning, mr. City manager,

6311
02:34:02,309 --> 02:34:03,541


6312
02:34:03,541 --> 02:34:03,998
mr. Mayor.

6313
02:34:03,998 --> 02:34:08,017
absolutely. That council is th

6314
02:34:08,017 --> 02:34:08,615
ere for

6315
02:34:08,615 --> 02:34:10,291
several reasons, one of which I

6316
02:34:10,291 --> 02:34:10,291
s

6317
02:34:10,291 --> 02:34:11,583
to give us advice.

6318
02:34:11,583 --> 02:34:12,851
to have some degree of oversigh

6319
02:34:12,851 --> 02:34:12,851
t

6320
02:34:12,851 --> 02:34:14,376
to our processes.

6321
02:34:14,376 --> 02:34:17,476
I see this as just that.

6322
02:34:17,476 --> 02:34:19,145
so if the commission wanted to

6323
02:34:19,145 --> 02:34:19,337


6324
02:34:19,337 --> 02:34:20,705
give direction to that council,

6325
02:34:20,705 --> 02:34:21,402


6326
02:34:21,402 --> 02:34:22,203
certainly that would be within

6327
02:34:22,203 --> 02:34:22,342


6328
02:34:22,342 --> 02:34:23,048
the purview.

6329
02:34:23,048 --> 02:34:27,265
and we would make whatever

6330
02:34:27,265 --> 02:34:29,270
reported timeline, so on a

6331
02:34:29,270 --> 02:34:30,774
monthly, ongoing, status repor

6332
02:34:30,774 --> 02:34:31,005
t

6333
02:34:31,005 --> 02:34:32,414
because we meet with council

6334
02:34:32,414 --> 02:34:33,813
every month, then that is what

6335
02:34:33,813 --> 02:34:34,144


6336
02:34:34,144 --> 02:34:34,580
we would do.

6337
02:34:34,580 --> 02:34:37,590
despite the annual reported

6338
02:34:37,590 --> 02:34:38,382
mandate statutorily.

6339
02:34:38,382 --> 02:34:39,803
>> I would be interested in

6340
02:34:39,803 --> 02:34:39,803
that.

6341
02:34:39,803 --> 02:34:42,093
I wonder if it's the appetite

6342
02:34:42,093 --> 02:34:42,093
of

6343
02:34:42,093 --> 02:34:44,491
my colleagues, but I will make

6344
02:34:44,491 --> 02:34:44,653


6345
02:34:44,653 --> 02:34:47,592
that motion because I think to

6346
02:34:47,592 --> 02:34:47,818


6347
02:34:47,818 --> 02:34:49,328
put us at ease, to put the

6348
02:34:49,328 --> 02:34:50,327
community at ease, and to make

6349
02:34:50,327 --> 02:34:50,530


6350
02:34:50,530 --> 02:34:52,032
sure we are staying on top of

6351
02:34:52,032 --> 02:34:52,032


6352
02:34:52,032 --> 02:34:53,172
what's happening with our

6353
02:34:53,172 --> 02:34:54,539
neighbors, I definitely,

6354
02:34:54,539 --> 02:34:55,668
especially if it's going to not

6355
02:34:55,668 --> 02:34:55,839


6356
02:34:55,839 --> 02:34:57,636
be that much of an impact, we d

6357
02:34:57,636 --> 02:34:57,636
o

6358
02:34:57,636 --> 02:34:59,976
have a board that sits there for

6359
02:34:59,976 --> 02:34:59,976


6360
02:34:59,976 --> 02:35:01,846
this particular reason, and I

6361
02:35:01,846 --> 02:35:01,846


6362
02:35:01,846 --> 02:35:03,578
think that a lot of them might

6363
02:35:03,578 --> 02:35:03,708


6364
02:35:03,708 --> 02:35:06,070
be interested in this as well.

6365
02:35:06,070 --> 02:35:06,070


6366
02:35:06,070 --> 02:35:09,250
but I move that we enlist the

6367
02:35:09,250 --> 02:35:09,250


6368
02:35:09,250 --> 02:35:12,542
police advisory council to

6369
02:35:12,542 --> 02:35:15,290
provide a monthly, ongoing --

6370
02:35:15,290 --> 02:35:15,290


6371
02:35:15,290 --> 02:35:15,290
commissioner?

6372
02:35:15,290 --> 02:35:16,150
>> sorry.

6373
02:35:16,150 --> 02:35:17,334
the only thing that is still

6374
02:35:17,334 --> 02:35:17,784
unknown to us.

6375
02:35:17,784 --> 02:35:18,422
>> yes.

6376
02:35:18,422 --> 02:35:20,552
>> is the impact on how we're

6377
02:35:20,552 --> 02:35:20,552


6378
02:35:20,552 --> 02:35:22,754
going to capture the data,

6379
02:35:22,754 --> 02:35:22,754
right?

6380
02:35:22,754 --> 02:35:24,830
the instrument to capture data

6381
02:35:24,830 --> 02:35:25,436


6382
02:35:25,436 --> 02:35:26,026
is yet unknown.

6383
02:35:26,026 --> 02:35:29,028
so a lot of this will be all

6384
02:35:29,028 --> 02:35:30,398
hands on deck using our

6385
02:35:30,398 --> 02:35:32,900
analysts, using our traffic

6386
02:35:32,900 --> 02:35:33,884
personnel, so I don't have a

6387
02:35:33,884 --> 02:35:35,268
clear picture yet as to how eas

6388
02:35:35,268 --> 02:35:35,268
y

6389
02:35:35,268 --> 02:35:36,045
it is going to be.

6390
02:35:36,045 --> 02:35:36,542
>> right.

6391
02:35:36,542 --> 02:35:38,559
>> so maybe we can have further

6392
02:35:38,559 --> 02:35:38,840


6393
02:35:38,840 --> 02:35:39,672
dialogue whether it's monthly,

6394
02:35:39,672 --> 02:35:40,002


6395
02:35:40,002 --> 02:35:41,646
whether it's quarterly, not

6396
02:35:41,646 --> 02:35:41,646
sure.

6397
02:35:41,646 --> 02:35:43,106
but whatever the commission

6398
02:35:43,106 --> 02:35:44,580
arrives at at a reasonable

6399
02:35:44,580 --> 02:35:45,600
timeline, I think we can deliver

6400
02:35:45,600 --> 02:35:45,600


6401
02:35:45,600 --> 02:35:45,600
that.

6402
02:35:45,600 --> 02:35:47,654
>> okay.

6403
02:35:47,654 --> 02:35:50,652
so let me take the monthly out

6404
02:35:50,652 --> 02:35:50,960


6405
02:35:50,960 --> 02:35:50,960
now.

6406
02:35:50,960 --> 02:35:53,190
I'll take the monthly out.

6407
02:35:53,190 --> 02:35:57,628
let me just say it like this.

6408
02:35:57,628 --> 02:36:02,562
in response to community need,

6409
02:36:02,562 --> 02:36:02,994


6410
02:36:02,994 --> 02:36:07,164
in response to a level of

6411
02:36:07,164 --> 02:36:09,187
transparency, I'm interested I

6412
02:36:09,187 --> 02:36:09,400
n

6413
02:36:09,400 --> 02:36:11,538
us being able to provide

6414
02:36:11,538 --> 02:36:11,847
additional information.

6415
02:36:11,847 --> 02:36:15,150
I'm interested in additional

6416
02:36:15,150 --> 02:36:17,416
analysis, okay, that can

6417
02:36:17,416 --> 02:36:18,270
apparently be done through our

6418
02:36:18,270 --> 02:36:18,448


6419
02:36:18,448 --> 02:36:19,385
police advisory council.

6420
02:36:19,385 --> 02:36:21,881
now, if that's not done on a

6421
02:36:21,881 --> 02:36:23,890
monthly basis, maybe that's

6422
02:36:23,890 --> 02:36:23,890
fine.

6423
02:36:23,890 --> 02:36:26,319
but maybe a quarterly basis.

6424
02:36:26,319 --> 02:36:27,426
because I hear you.

6425
02:36:27,426 --> 02:36:30,547
ther are still a number of

6426
02:36:30,547 --> 02:36:30,828
unknowns here.

6427
02:36:30,828 --> 02:36:34,733
>> commissioner, we can always

6428
02:36:34,733 --> 02:36:34,964


6429
02:36:34,964 --> 02:36:36,408
as we go along adjust that.

6430
02:36:36,408 --> 02:36:38,144
>> yeah, that's what I'm

6431
02:36:38,144 --> 02:36:38,144
thinking.

6432
02:36:38,144 --> 02:36:41,300
right now let's do quarterly

6433
02:36:41,300 --> 02:36:42,506
because maybe that's the lowes

6434
02:36:42,506 --> 02:36:42,938
t

6435
02:36:42,938 --> 02:36:42,938
burden.

6436
02:36:42,938 --> 02:36:47,146
and it allows you a chance to

6437
02:36:47,146 --> 02:36:47,146


6438
02:36:47,146 --> 02:36:48,144
figure things out.

6439
02:36:48,144 --> 02:36:49,675
give your advisory council a

6440
02:36:49,675 --> 02:36:51,426
chance to figure things out an

6441
02:36:51,426 --> 02:36:51,515
d

6442
02:36:51,515 --> 02:36:53,112
you all speaking with them and

6443
02:36:53,112 --> 02:36:53,681


6444
02:36:53,681 --> 02:36:55,213
as developments arise in terms

6445
02:36:55,213 --> 02:36:55,614


6446
02:36:55,614 --> 02:36:57,196
of how the data will be

6447
02:36:57,196 --> 02:36:58,321
captured, all of that can come

6448
02:36:58,321 --> 02:36:58,496


6449
02:36:58,496 --> 02:36:58,496
in.

6450
02:36:58,496 --> 02:36:59,320
you hear my concern.

6451
02:36:59,320 --> 02:37:02,200
I'm trying to cobble this

6452
02:37:02,200 --> 02:37:04,860
together on the fly here.

6453
02:37:04,860 --> 02:37:07,211
but the motion is essentially t

6454
02:37:07,211 --> 02:37:07,211
o

6455
02:37:07,211 --> 02:37:09,896
involve the police advisory

6456
02:37:09,896 --> 02:37:12,506
council in an ongoing way to b

6457
02:37:12,506 --> 02:37:14,302
e

6458
02:37:14,302 --> 02:37:15,774
able to analyze this -- the dat

6459
02:37:15,774 --> 02:37:15,774
a

6460
02:37:15,774 --> 02:37:17,044
that has been captured from the

6461
02:37:17,044 --> 02:37:18,851


6462
02:37:18,851 --> 02:37:19,515
red light cameras.

6463
02:37:19,515 --> 02:37:21,709
>> got it.

6464
02:37:21,709 --> 02:37:22,772
>> mayor: is there a second?

6465
02:37:22,772 --> 02:37:24,373
we have a motion and a second.

6466
02:37:24,373 --> 02:37:24,373


6467
02:37:24,373 --> 02:37:27,250
commissioner ingle?

6468
02:37:27,250 --> 02:37:29,582
>> I will get it after this

6469
02:37:29,582 --> 02:37:29,582
motion.

6470
02:37:29,582 --> 02:37:30,419
>> mayor: gotcha.

6471
02:37:30,419 --> 02:37:30,419
okay.

6472
02:37:30,419 --> 02:37:32,369
mr. Manager?

6473
02:37:32,369 --> 02:37:33,817
>> thank you, mr. Mayor.

6474
02:37:33,817 --> 02:37:35,219
I was going to point out, too,

6475
02:37:35,219 --> 02:37:35,513


6476
02:37:35,513 --> 02:37:36,525
we can certainly include this

6477
02:37:36,525 --> 02:37:36,525


6478
02:37:36,525 --> 02:37:37,493
information as we collect it I

6479
02:37:37,493 --> 02:37:37,542
n

6480
02:37:37,542 --> 02:37:39,794
the quarterly reports and

6481
02:37:39,794 --> 02:37:40,731
presentations that g.d.p. Gives

6482
02:37:40,731 --> 02:37:40,970


6483
02:37:40,970 --> 02:37:41,461
you all, too.

6484
02:37:41,461 --> 02:37:42,576
>> excellent.

6485
02:37:42,576 --> 02:37:43,471
>> mayor: very good.

6486
02:37:43,471 --> 02:37:44,154
commissioner book?

6487
02:37:44,154 --> 02:37:46,704
>> yeah, commissioner

6488
02:37:46,704 --> 02:37:47,499
duncan-walker, more community

6489
02:37:47,499 --> 02:37:47,499


6490
02:37:47,499 --> 02:37:49,147
sentiment and evaluation does

6491
02:37:49,147 --> 02:37:49,147


6492
02:37:49,147 --> 02:37:51,367
not hurt is us in any way.

6493
02:37:51,367 --> 02:37:52,820
it is a good thing, and I think

6494
02:37:52,820 --> 02:37:52,820


6495
02:37:52,820 --> 02:37:54,641
the mayor pro tem was eluding t

6496
02:37:54,641 --> 02:37:54,641
o

6497
02:37:54,641 --> 02:37:55,165
that, too.

6498
02:37:55,165 --> 02:37:57,075
any way we get that and as

6499
02:37:57,075 --> 02:37:58,548
things go on, I think is a goo

6500
02:37:58,548 --> 02:37:58,813
d

6501
02:37:58,813 --> 02:37:58,813
idea.

6502
02:37:58,813 --> 02:37:59,340
thank you.

6503
02:37:59,340 --> 02:38:00,178
>> mayor: thank you,

6504
02:38:00,178 --> 02:38:01,119
commissioner book.

6505
02:38:01,119 --> 02:38:02,546
all in favor please say aye.

6506
02:38:02,546 --> 02:38:03,182
any opposed?

6507
02:38:03,182 --> 02:38:03,666
all right.

6508
02:38:03,666 --> 02:38:04,855
that passes unanimously.

6509
02:38:04,855 --> 02:38:06,509
commissioner ingle, did you hav

6510
02:38:06,509 --> 02:38:06,509
e

6511
02:38:06,509 --> 02:38:06,977
something to add?

6512
02:38:06,977 --> 02:38:09,929
>> yeah, just to throw onto

6513
02:38:09,929 --> 02:38:09,929
that.

6514
02:38:09,929 --> 02:38:11,292
I think we have talked about I

6515
02:38:11,292 --> 02:38:11,410
t

6516
02:38:11,410 --> 02:38:12,696
every time this has come up, a

6517
02:38:12,696 --> 02:38:13,366
n

6518
02:38:13,366 --> 02:38:14,907
issue and the concerns as part

6519
02:38:14,907 --> 02:38:14,989


6520
02:38:14,989 --> 02:38:16,930
of the report and as part of the

6521
02:38:16,930 --> 02:38:16,930


6522
02:38:16,930 --> 02:38:17,954
feedback and everything else, I

6523
02:38:17,954 --> 02:38:18,132


6524
02:38:18,132 --> 02:38:20,114
really want to get some answer

6525
02:38:20,114 --> 02:38:20,463


6526
02:38:20,463 --> 02:38:21,332
on how many of those red light

6527
02:38:21,332 --> 02:38:23,679


6528
02:38:23,679 --> 02:38:25,569
tickets are rolling over into

6529
02:38:25,569 --> 02:38:25,569


6530
02:38:25,569 --> 02:38:27,673
traffic tickets and not just a

6531
02:38:27,673 --> 02:38:27,775


6532
02:38:27,775 --> 02:38:28,741
civil violation, but actually

6533
02:38:28,741 --> 02:38:28,741


6534
02:38:28,741 --> 02:38:29,353
rolled over to that.

6535
02:38:29,353 --> 02:38:32,007
and I know you said there was

6536
02:38:32,007 --> 02:38:32,007


6537
02:38:32,007 --> 02:38:33,247
complications in figuring out

6538
02:38:33,247 --> 02:38:33,247


6539
02:38:33,247 --> 02:38:34,039
where that information was hel

6540
02:38:34,039 --> 02:38:34,177
d

6541
02:38:34,177 --> 02:38:35,629
and all that, but I want to mak

6542
02:38:35,629 --> 02:38:35,629
e

6543
02:38:35,629 --> 02:38:36,916
sure as part of the report we

6544
02:38:36,916 --> 02:38:38,910
are getting an update of how

6545
02:38:38,910 --> 02:38:40,017
many of these civil violations

6546
02:38:40,017 --> 02:38:40,283


6547
02:38:40,283 --> 02:38:43,857
end up rolling over into the

6548
02:38:43,857 --> 02:38:44,725
standard traffic violations.

6549
02:38:44,725 --> 02:38:45,279
thank you.

6550
02:38:45,279 --> 02:38:46,083
>> mayor: all right.

6551
02:38:46,083 --> 02:38:47,375
thank you, commissioner ingle.

6552
02:38:47,375 --> 02:38:47,375


6553
02:38:47,375 --> 02:38:48,281
all right.

6554
02:38:48,281 --> 02:38:51,114
I see no no further lights.

6555
02:38:51,114 --> 02:38:53,168
we will reconvene at 1:00.

6556
00:00:00,000 --> 23:48:52,298
.

6557
23:48:52,298 --> 00:03:42,279
>> mayor: good afternoon,

6558
00:03:42,279 --> 00:03:42,279
everyone.

6559
00:03:42,279 --> 00:03:43,716
welcome to the afternoon

6560
00:03:43,716 --> 00:03:47,027
association of this april 2nd,

6561
00:03:47,027 --> 00:03:47,027


6562
00:03:47,027 --> 00:03:47,895
2026, city commission meeting.

6563
00:03:47,895 --> 00:03:47,895


6564
00:03:47,895 --> 00:03:49,431
the afternoon will be just as

6565
00:03:49,431 --> 00:03:51,365
packed as the morning was.

6566
00:03:51,365 --> 00:03:52,829
madam clerk.

6567
00:03:52,829 --> 00:03:57,269
>> mr. Mayor, we have the

6568
00:03:57,269 --> 00:03:58,657
gainesville history moment to b

6569
00:03:58,657 --> 00:03:58,657
e

6570
00:03:58,657 --> 00:04:00,003
presented by ms. Donna waller.

6571
00:04:00,003 --> 00:04:00,003


6572
00:04:00,003 --> 00:04:04,145
>> mayor: welcome.

6573
00:04:04,145 --> 00:04:06,712
good to see you.

6574
00:04:06,712 --> 00:04:09,211
>> always nice to see you

6575
00:04:09,211 --> 00:04:09,211
folks.

6576
00:04:09,211 --> 00:04:15,017
today some of you may remember

6577
00:04:15,017 --> 00:04:15,017


6578
00:04:15,017 --> 00:04:17,057
that I was, that last time I was

6579
00:04:17,057 --> 00:04:17,057


6580
00:04:17,057 --> 00:04:22,991
here, I talked about essential

6581
00:04:22,991 --> 00:04:22,991
ly

6582
00:04:22,991 --> 00:04:26,293
the african american background

6583
00:04:26,293 --> 00:04:26,293


6584
00:04:26,293 --> 00:04:30,576
of gainesville and own one of

6585
00:04:30,576 --> 00:04:31,775
the things I pointed out was t

6586
00:04:31,775 --> 00:04:31,775
he

6587
00:04:31,775 --> 00:04:34,713
pleasant striet          plez --

6588
00:04:34,713 --> 00:04:34,933
pleasant

6589
00:04:34,933 --> 00:04:36,051
street neighborhood wasn't jus

6590
00:04:36,051 --> 00:04:36,051
t

6591
00:04:36,051 --> 00:04:36,863
gainesville's first african

6592
00:04:36,863 --> 00:04:37,591
american neighborhood but it wa

6593
00:04:37,591 --> 00:04:37,591
s

6594
00:04:37,591 --> 00:04:42,076
really gainesville's first real

6595
00:04:42,076 --> 00:04:42,076


6596
00:04:42,076 --> 00:04:45,879
neighborhood, and so today wha

6597
00:04:45,879 --> 00:04:45,879
t

6598
00:04:45,879 --> 00:04:49,851
I want to talk about is what w

6599
00:04:49,851 --> 00:04:49,851
as

6600
00:04:49,851 --> 00:04:54,125
actually the first real white

6601
00:04:54,125 --> 00:04:56,523
neighborhood in gainesville.

6602
00:04:56,523 --> 00:05:00,131
and I want to start and ask you

6603
00:05:00,131 --> 00:05:00,131


6604
00:05:00,131 --> 00:05:04,869
to sort of consider this fact,

6605
00:05:04,869 --> 00:05:04,869


6606
00:05:04,869 --> 00:05:06,661
which plays off something else

6607
00:05:06,661 --> 00:05:06,661
I

6608
00:05:06,661 --> 00:05:08,110
said last month.

6609
00:05:08,110 --> 00:05:12,145
which is that in 1860, which I

6610
00:05:12,145 --> 00:05:12,145
s

6611
00:05:12,145 --> 00:05:14,105
the year when the civil war

6612
00:05:14,105 --> 00:05:21,121
broke out, gainesville had 223

6613
00:05:21,121 --> 00:05:21,121


6614
00:05:21,121 --> 00:05:25,229
white residents according to th

6615
00:05:25,229 --> 00:05:25,229
e

6616
00:05:25,229 --> 00:05:26,609
1860 census.

6617
00:05:26,609 --> 00:05:29,997
so when you think about the

6618
00:05:29,997 --> 00:05:32,303
development of gainesville, yo

6619
00:05:32,303 --> 00:05:32,303
u

6620
00:05:32,303 --> 00:05:39,405
want to recognize that at, sor

6621
00:05:39,405 --> 00:05:39,405
t

6622
00:05:39,405 --> 00:05:41,377
of the moment of chartering in

6623
00:05:41,377 --> 00:05:41,377


6624
00:05:41,377 --> 00:05:45,541
many ways, gainesville really

6625
00:05:45,541 --> 00:05:48,913
only had what we would think o

6626
00:05:48,913 --> 00:05:48,913
f

6627
00:05:48,913 --> 00:05:53,289
as a block of permanent white

6628
00:05:53,289 --> 00:05:53,289
residents.

6629
00:05:53,289 --> 00:05:58,989
and just like pleasant street

6630
00:05:58,989 --> 00:06:00,857
and the african american

6631
00:06:00,857 --> 00:06:04,173
population grew because of the

6632
00:06:04,173 --> 00:06:04,173


6633
00:06:04,173 --> 00:06:08,069
war and the railroads, so did

6634
00:06:08,069 --> 00:06:10,265
the white population, and you

6635
00:06:10,265 --> 00:06:14,974
might recall that I said that

6636
00:06:14,974 --> 00:06:16,272
african americans and people o

6637
00:06:16,272 --> 00:06:16,272
f

6638
00:06:16,272 --> 00:06:18,369
color were majority of this

6639
00:06:18,369 --> 00:06:18,369
county.

6640
00:06:18,369 --> 00:06:24,381
up through the 1880s.

6641
00:06:24,381 --> 00:06:27,219
and it was, it was the railroads

6642
00:06:27,219 --> 00:06:27,219


6643
00:06:27,219 --> 00:06:30,522
that changed all that.

6644
00:06:30,522 --> 00:06:32,085
gainesville was very lucky tha

6645
00:06:32,085 --> 00:06:32,085
t

6646
00:06:32,085 --> 00:06:34,565
the union armies did not pull u

6647
00:06:34,565 --> 00:06:34,565
p

6648
00:06:34,565 --> 00:06:37,689
the railroad tracks during the

6649
00:06:37,689 --> 00:06:37,689


6650
00:06:37,689 --> 00:06:37,689
war.

6651
00:06:37,689 --> 00:06:39,894
and by the 1880s, the

6652
00:06:39,894 --> 00:06:43,469
railroads had expanded greatly

6653
00:06:43,469 --> 00:06:43,469


6654
00:06:43,469 --> 00:06:46,734
in florida, but I'm always

6655
00:06:46,734 --> 00:06:49,065
learning new stuff, and this I

6656
00:06:49,065 --> 00:06:49,065
s

6657
00:06:49,065 --> 00:06:51,341
the new one for this time.

6658
00:06:51,341 --> 00:06:53,615
I did not properly understand

6659
00:06:53,615 --> 00:06:57,149
until last week that gainesvil

6660
00:06:57,149 --> 00:06:57,149
le

6661
00:06:57,149 --> 00:07:00,648
was essentially the last

6662
00:07:00,648 --> 00:07:05,601
railroad stop in central flori

6663
00:07:05,601 --> 00:07:05,601
da

6664
00:07:05,601 --> 00:07:10,828
until after 1900.

6665
00:07:10,828 --> 00:07:12,480
if you wanted to come to florida

6666
00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:12,480


6667
00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,196
and go further south, you had t

6668
00:07:16,196 --> 00:07:16,196
o

6669
00:07:16,196 --> 00:07:19,932
take a wagon train or some oth

6670
00:07:19,932 --> 00:07:19,932
er

6671
00:07:19,932 --> 00:07:23,636
kind of vehicle.

6672
00:07:23,636 --> 00:07:25,290
so when you think about why we

6673
00:07:25,290 --> 00:07:25,290


6674
00:07:25,290 --> 00:07:29,216
have that train on our seal up

6675
00:07:29,216 --> 00:07:29,216


6676
00:07:29,216 --> 00:07:32,210
above the mayor's head, it's

6677
00:07:32,210 --> 00:07:34,518
because this town was really

6678
00:07:34,518 --> 00:07:37,589
made by the railroads in a ver

6679
00:07:37,589 --> 00:07:37,589
y

6680
00:07:37,589 --> 00:07:39,225
real sense.

6681
00:07:39,225 --> 00:07:43,160
and by the 1880s, what, what

6682
00:07:43,160 --> 00:07:45,893
that railroad had done was to

6683
00:07:45,893 --> 00:07:49,266
make this area the single

6684
00:07:49,266 --> 00:07:54,100
largest producer of sea island

6685
00:07:54,100 --> 00:07:54,100


6686
00:07:54,100 --> 00:07:56,134
cotton in the entire state of

6687
00:07:56,134 --> 00:07:56,134
florida.

6688
00:07:56,134 --> 00:08:02,652
and two-thirds of the state's

6689
00:08:02,652 --> 00:08:04,456
agricultural products were

6690
00:08:04,456 --> 00:08:09,220
shipped out of gainesville.

6691
00:08:09,220 --> 00:08:16,096
and so what you kind of have t

6692
00:08:16,096 --> 00:08:16,096
o

6693
00:08:16,096 --> 00:08:20,784
understand is that after the w

6694
00:08:20,784 --> 00:08:20,784
ar

6695
00:08:20,784 --> 00:08:22,968
and by the 1880s, people were

6696
00:08:22,968 --> 00:08:24,972
moving into the area and movin

6697
00:08:24,972 --> 00:08:24,972
g

6698
00:08:24,972 --> 00:08:28,166
into gainesville for economic

6699
00:08:28,166 --> 00:08:28,166
reasons.

6700
00:08:28,166 --> 00:08:31,802
it was really boom time here.

6701
00:08:31,802 --> 00:08:34,241
there hadn't been a lot of

6702
00:08:34,241 --> 00:08:37,176
damage during the war, and it

6703
00:08:37,176 --> 00:08:40,355
was all about cotton and

6704
00:08:40,355 --> 00:08:42,891
oranges, and then in the

6705
00:08:42,891 --> 00:08:46,057
1890s, there were series of

6706
00:08:46,057 --> 00:08:50,894
big freezes that simply wiped

6707
00:08:50,894 --> 00:08:53,492
out agriculture, but lucky for

6708
00:08:53,492 --> 00:08:53,492


6709
00:08:53,492 --> 00:08:59,284
us, by the time that occurred,

6710
00:08:59,284 --> 00:08:59,284


6711
00:08:59,284 --> 00:09:02,469
florida had begun to be a

6712
00:09:02,469 --> 00:09:04,678
tourist attraction.

6713
00:09:04,678 --> 00:09:09,681
and again, the railroads broug

6714
00:09:09,681 --> 00:09:09,681
ht

6715
00:09:09,681 --> 00:09:12,223
the tourists down here.

6716
00:09:12,223 --> 00:09:17,719
and what happened around 1900

6717
00:09:17,719 --> 00:09:21,155
was the first of the florida

6718
00:09:21,155 --> 00:09:24,803
great real estate booms, and

6719
00:09:24,803 --> 00:09:28,533
gainesville really benefited

6720
00:09:28,533 --> 00:09:34,343
from that, and the specific

6721
00:09:34,343 --> 00:09:35,639
neighborhood I want to talk

6722
00:09:35,639 --> 00:09:39,779
about today is actually the duc

6723
00:09:39,779 --> 00:09:39,779
k

6724
00:09:39,779 --> 00:09:39,779
pond.

6725
00:09:39,779 --> 00:09:44,385
if you think about the growth o

6726
00:09:44,385 --> 00:09:44,385
f

6727
00:09:44,385 --> 00:09:49,083
gainesville and those 223

6728
00:09:49,083 --> 00:09:50,089
people, most of them lived on

6729
00:09:50,089 --> 00:09:52,556
warlz or plantation houses.

6730
00:09:52,556 --> 00:09:54,585
if you look at that little hou

6731
00:09:54,585 --> 00:09:54,585
se

6732
00:09:54,585 --> 00:09:57,291
over on the math eosin propert

6733
00:09:57,291 --> 00:09:57,291
y,

6734
00:09:57,291 --> 00:09:59,831
that was the original farm

6735
00:09:59,831 --> 00:10:02,747
house, and it was up on a hill,

6736
00:10:02,747 --> 00:10:02,747


6737
00:10:02,747 --> 00:10:04,533
and there was nothing around I

6738
00:10:04,533 --> 00:10:04,533
t

6739
00:10:04,533 --> 00:10:11,723
until the math    matheson's b

6740
00:10:11,723 --> 00:10:11,723
uilt

6741
00:10:11,723 --> 00:10:12,743
the better house where the muse

6742
00:10:12,743 --> 00:10:12,743


6743
00:10:12,743 --> 00:10:13,949
ement is and that did not happe

6744
00:10:13,949 --> 00:10:13,949
n

6745
00:10:13,949 --> 00:10:16,349
until the 1890s.

6746
00:10:16,349 --> 00:10:19,851
so beginning in the early

6747
00:10:19,851 --> 00:10:23,457
1900s, there was a real estate

6748
00:10:23,457 --> 00:10:23,457


6749
00:10:23,457 --> 00:10:25,761
boom, and one of the developer

6750
00:10:25,761 --> 00:10:25,761
s

6751
00:10:25,761 --> 00:10:27,861
is a name that you've heard a

6752
00:10:27,861 --> 00:10:33,966
lot from me, mr. William ruben

6753
00:10:33,966 --> 00:10:33,966


6754
00:10:33,966 --> 00:10:36,370
thomas of the thomas center.

6755
00:10:36,370 --> 00:10:39,341
and you'll recall that someone

6756
00:10:39,341 --> 00:10:39,341


6757
00:10:39,341 --> 00:10:41,611
else started his house, which

6758
00:10:41,611 --> 00:10:45,773
was called sun kissed villa, a

6759
00:10:45,773 --> 00:10:45,773
nd

6760
00:10:45,773 --> 00:10:47,945
he took it over and finished I

6761
00:10:47,945 --> 00:10:47,945
t

6762
00:10:47,945 --> 00:10:51,351
in 1910 and while that was goi

6763
00:10:51,351 --> 00:10:51,351
ng

6764
00:10:51,351 --> 00:10:55,851
on, he started developing an

6765
00:10:55,851 --> 00:10:58,891
adjacent area to his house,

6766
00:10:58,891 --> 00:11:01,864
which is now the thomas center,

6767
00:11:01,864 --> 00:11:01,864


6768
00:11:01,864 --> 00:11:07,433
and it was called sun   sunkist

6769
00:11:07,433 --> 00:11:07,433


6770
00:11:07,433 --> 00:11:09,481
like the sun kissed villa, and

6771
00:11:09,481 --> 00:11:09,969
a

6772
00:11:09,969 --> 00:11:11,719
number of the houses in the duc

6773
00:11:11,719 --> 00:11:11,719
k

6774
00:11:11,719 --> 00:11:14,338
pond that are built in the

6775
00:11:14,338 --> 00:11:19,150
1890s are part of the original

6776
00:11:19,150 --> 00:11:19,150


6777
00:11:19,150 --> 00:11:24,089
sun kissed development which w

6778
00:11:24,089 --> 00:11:24,089
as

6779
00:11:24,089 --> 00:11:26,909
around thomas' house, but the

6780
00:11:26,909 --> 00:11:29,417
real story of the duck pond is

6781
00:11:29,417 --> 00:11:29,417


6782
00:11:29,417 --> 00:11:32,590
one of his neighbors.

6783
00:11:32,590 --> 00:11:36,895
in 1910a man named james

6784
00:11:36,895 --> 00:11:40,597
videl -- vidal moved into a

6785
00:11:40,597 --> 00:11:43,432
house pretty close to where

6786
00:11:43,432 --> 00:11:46,974
thomas lived about a block awa

6787
00:11:46,974 --> 00:11:46,974
y

6788
00:11:46,974 --> 00:11:50,344
from the thomas estate.

6789
00:11:50,344 --> 00:11:56,910
and in 1922, he talked william

6790
00:11:56,910 --> 00:11:56,910


6791
00:11:56,910 --> 00:12:00,373
ruben thomas into selling him a

6792
00:12:00,373 --> 00:12:00,373


6793
00:12:00,373 --> 00:12:03,687
lot of the acreage around the

6794
00:12:03,687 --> 00:12:07,830
thomas center, and it was to

6795
00:12:07,830 --> 00:12:09,971
become a development that came

6796
00:12:09,971 --> 00:12:09,971


6797
00:12:09,971 --> 00:12:14,306
to be called the highlands

6798
00:12:14,306 --> 00:12:14,306
neighborhood.

6799
00:12:14,306 --> 00:12:20,547
and in 1926, vidal who was

6800
00:12:20,547 --> 00:12:22,611
actually a kind of a sybil

6801
00:12:22,611 --> 00:12:27,452
engineer and a city planner

6802
00:12:27,452 --> 00:12:29,084
dammed a part of sweetwater

6803
00:12:29,084 --> 00:12:34,560
creek and created what was

6804
00:12:34,560 --> 00:12:38,724
maybe, there's a contending,

6805
00:12:38,724 --> 00:12:42,664
another contender here, but in

6806
00:12:42,664 --> 00:12:42,664


6807
00:12:42,664 --> 00:12:46,132
1926 what vidal did was to

6808
00:12:46,132 --> 00:12:50,636
create the first public park I

6809
00:12:50,636 --> 00:12:50,636
n

6810
00:12:50,636 --> 00:12:50,636
gainesville.

6811
00:12:50,636 --> 00:12:52,936
inside the city of gainesville.

6812
00:12:52,936 --> 00:12:52,936


6813
00:12:52,936 --> 00:12:56,208
and that was the duck pond.

6814
00:12:56,208 --> 00:12:59,378
and if you walk around the duc

6815
00:12:59,378 --> 00:12:59,378
k

6816
00:12:59,378 --> 00:13:04,184
pond area, you'll see that man

6817
00:13:04,184 --> 00:13:04,184
y

6818
00:13:04,184 --> 00:13:07,786
of the houses are from the

6819
00:13:07,786 --> 00:13:10,657
1920s in the northeast

6820
00:13:10,657 --> 00:13:11,770
historic area.

6821
00:13:11,770 --> 00:13:14,724
some of them date from the fir

6822
00:13:14,724 --> 00:13:14,724
st

6823
00:13:14,724 --> 00:13:16,694
wave, the sun kissed

6824
00:13:16,694 --> 00:13:19,130
development, but a lot of the

6825
00:13:19,130 --> 00:13:20,398
houses in the duck pond were

6826
00:13:20,398 --> 00:13:23,566
built in the 1920s as part of

6827
00:13:23,566 --> 00:13:27,958
the highland neighborhood.

6828
00:13:27,958 --> 00:13:32,976
and it really was in many ways

6829
00:13:32,976 --> 00:13:32,976


6830
00:13:32,976 --> 00:13:36,684
the first downtown white

6831
00:13:36,684 --> 00:13:39,658
neighborhood in gainesville

6832
00:13:39,658 --> 00:13:42,958
starting in the -- around 1900

6833
00:13:42,958 --> 00:13:42,958


6834
00:13:42,958 --> 00:13:46,688
and then with a big growth spu

6835
00:13:46,688 --> 00:13:46,688
rt

6836
00:13:46,688 --> 00:13:48,306
in the 1920s.

6837
00:13:48,306 --> 00:13:50,058
and that was when the duck pon

6838
00:13:50,058 --> 00:13:50,058
d

6839
00:13:50,058 --> 00:13:56,638
appeared, and in 1980, the

6840
00:13:56,638 --> 00:14:00,472
entire northeast historic

6841
00:14:00,472 --> 00:14:03,550
district was put on the nationa

6842
00:14:03,550 --> 00:14:03,550
l

6843
00:14:03,550 --> 00:14:07,588
register of historic places, a

6844
00:14:07,588 --> 00:14:07,588
nd

6845
00:14:07,588 --> 00:14:09,244
if you walk around the duck

6846
00:14:09,244 --> 00:14:12,965
pond, you see a huge range of

6847
00:14:12,965 --> 00:14:15,722
architectural styles in these

6848
00:14:15,722 --> 00:14:17,424
houses that were essentially

6849
00:14:17,424 --> 00:14:23,328
built from 1900 through about

6850
00:14:23,328 --> 00:14:25,560
1927 or so.

6851
00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:26,210
>> mayor: thank you so much.

6852
00:14:26,210 --> 00:14:28,468
appreciate it.

6853
00:14:28,468 --> 00:14:28,933
all right.

6854
00:14:28,933 --> 00:14:30,070
madam clerk.

6855
00:14:30,070 --> 00:14:32,469
>> mr. Mayor, we have early

6856
00:14:32,469 --> 00:14:33,672
public comment, but we don't

6857
00:14:33,672 --> 00:14:35,102
have anyone signed up there.

6858
00:14:35,102 --> 00:14:36,974
we currently have six speakers

6859
00:14:36,974 --> 00:14:36,974


6860
00:14:36,974 --> 00:14:39,148
for general public comment.

6861
00:14:39,148 --> 00:14:40,682
I'm going to say the person

6862
00:14:40,682 --> 00:14:42,120
speaking and then a couple of

6863
00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:43,223
after so people know who's

6864
00:14:43,223 --> 00:14:45,148
coming up next.

6865
00:14:45,148 --> 00:14:46,720
margaret delisle followed by

6866
00:14:46,720 --> 00:14:49,460
billy rohan and then ryan

6867
00:14:49,460 --> 00:14:49,460
bornet.

6868
00:14:49,460 --> 00:14:51,291
>> mayor: okay, so before anyon

6869
00:14:51,291 --> 00:14:51,291
e

6870
00:14:51,291 --> 00:14:53,158
starts let me just give a quick

6871
00:14:53,158 --> 00:14:53,158


6872
00:14:53,158 --> 00:14:54,614
primer because I know there are

6873
00:14:54,614 --> 00:14:54,614


6874
00:14:54,614 --> 00:14:56,510
some folks here who are going t

6875
00:14:56,510 --> 00:14:56,510
o

6876
00:14:56,510 --> 00:14:57,695
want to speak who have not bee

6877
00:14:57,695 --> 00:14:57,695
n

6878
00:14:57,695 --> 00:14:58,994
regulars here so just as a

6879
00:14:58,994 --> 00:15:03,364
reminder, when we call you up t

6880
00:15:03,364 --> 00:15:03,364
o

6881
00:15:03,364 --> 00:15:06,474
lectern, first of all, let me

6882
00:15:06,474 --> 00:15:08,838
say we've had am some folks

6883
00:15:08,838 --> 00:15:10,570
soo-- had some folks sign up f

6884
00:15:10,570 --> 00:15:10,570
or

6885
00:15:10,570 --> 00:15:11,342
general public comment and

6886
00:15:11,342 --> 00:15:11,708
that's great.

6887
00:15:11,708 --> 00:15:12,876
if you're here to speak to an

6888
00:15:12,876 --> 00:15:14,642
item that's on the agenda later

6889
00:15:14,642 --> 00:15:14,642


6890
00:15:14,642 --> 00:15:16,624
on, we'll call you for that ite

6891
00:15:16,624 --> 00:15:16,624
m

6892
00:15:16,624 --> 00:15:17,482
as well just please make sure

6893
00:15:17,482 --> 00:15:18,588
you fill a form out so the

6894
00:15:18,588 --> 00:15:20,856
clerk's office can do that

6895
00:15:20,856 --> 00:15:20,856
effectively.

6896
00:15:20,856 --> 00:15:23,388
when you come up, there is thr

6897
00:15:23,388 --> 00:15:23,388
ee

6898
00:15:23,388 --> 00:15:25,700
little lights on the lectern a

6899
00:15:25,700 --> 00:15:25,700
nd

6900
00:15:25,700 --> 00:15:28,098
a light is green, you have the

6901
00:15:28,098 --> 00:15:28,098
,

6902
00:15:28,098 --> 00:15:29,766
you'll start off with three ful

6903
00:15:29,766 --> 00:15:29,766
l

6904
00:15:29,766 --> 00:15:30,827
minutes to talk and I'm not

6905
00:15:30,827 --> 00:15:35,632
going to court    cut you off

6906
00:15:35,632 --> 00:15:36,738
midsentence but if the light I

6907
00:15:36,738 --> 00:15:36,738
s

6908
00:15:36,738 --> 00:15:37,902
green, you've got plenty of

6909
00:15:37,902 --> 00:15:37,902
time.

6910
00:15:37,902 --> 00:15:39,566
light turns yellow you want to

6911
00:15:39,566 --> 00:15:39,566


6912
00:15:39,566 --> 00:15:40,058
start winding down.

6913
00:15:40,058 --> 00:15:41,604
when the light turn reds when

6914
00:15:41,604 --> 00:15:42,672
you get to the end of a thought

6915
00:15:42,672 --> 00:15:42,672


6916
00:15:42,672 --> 00:15:43,754
I'm going to ask you to please

6917
00:15:43,754 --> 00:15:43,754


6918
00:15:43,754 --> 00:15:44,939
wrap up so that's just the

6919
00:15:44,939 --> 00:15:47,684
general way of how we do it.

6920
00:15:47,684 --> 00:15:47,684
so.

6921
00:15:47,684 --> 00:15:48,982
>> so our first speaker is

6922
00:15:48,982 --> 00:15:51,532
margaret delisle, also to let

6923
00:15:51,532 --> 00:15:53,352
you know room 16 has been opene

6924
00:15:53,352 --> 00:15:53,352
d

6925
00:15:53,352 --> 00:15:55,684
because we are packed full in

6926
00:15:55,684 --> 00:15:56,834
here so we may need to have som

6927
00:15:56,834 --> 00:15:56,834
e

6928
00:15:56,834 --> 00:15:59,794
time to get people from there.

6929
00:15:59,794 --> 00:15:59,794


6930
00:15:59,794 --> 00:16:01,393
followed by billy rohan and the

6931
00:16:01,393 --> 00:16:01,393
n

6932
00:16:01,393 --> 00:16:04,862
prien     ryan burnette are on

6933
00:16:04,862 --> 00:16:04,862


6934
00:16:04,862 --> 00:16:04,862
deck.

6935
00:16:04,862 --> 00:16:06,136
>> mayor: all right,

6936
00:16:06,136 --> 00:16:08,409
ms. Delisle.

6937
00:16:08,409 --> 00:16:10,242
hello, I'm margaret.

6938
00:16:10,242 --> 00:16:13,179
I have cept many e-mails of

6939
00:16:13,179 --> 00:16:15,245
various topics, but today I cam

6940
00:16:15,245 --> 00:16:15,245
e

6941
00:16:15,245 --> 00:16:17,007
to talk about the traffic

6942
00:16:17,007 --> 00:16:17,007
lights.

6943
00:16:17,007 --> 00:16:18,573
I didn't know the first session

6944
00:16:18,573 --> 00:16:18,573


6945
00:16:18,573 --> 00:16:21,282
was going to be about traffic

6946
00:16:21,282 --> 00:16:22,712
lights, so it's a fun

6947
00:16:22,712 --> 00:16:25,659
coincidence but as I've driven

6948
00:16:25,659 --> 00:16:25,659


6949
00:16:25,659 --> 00:16:27,416
around this town and I came her

6950
00:16:27,416 --> 00:16:27,416
e

6951
00:16:27,416 --> 00:16:28,829
from atlanta and so I've drive

6952
00:16:28,829 --> 00:16:28,829
n

6953
00:16:28,829 --> 00:16:30,588
through atlanta, I've noticed

6954
00:16:30,588 --> 00:16:33,130
how much an impact improperly

6955
00:16:33,130 --> 00:16:34,634
timed lights have on pretty muc

6956
00:16:34,634 --> 00:16:34,634
h

6957
00:16:34,634 --> 00:16:37,262
every aspect of our day to day

6958
00:16:37,262 --> 00:16:37,262


6959
00:16:37,262 --> 00:16:37,262
lives.

6960
00:16:37,262 --> 00:16:40,097
and how strange it is that we'

6961
00:16:40,097 --> 00:16:40,097
re

6962
00:16:40,097 --> 00:16:44,138
still relying on such as stati

6963
00:16:44,138 --> 00:16:44,138
c

6964
00:16:44,138 --> 00:16:45,802
way of viewing traffic, which I

6965
00:16:45,802 --> 00:16:45,802
s

6966
00:16:45,802 --> 00:16:47,971
inherently adaptable and ever

6967
00:16:47,971 --> 00:16:50,274
shifting according to condition

6968
00:16:50,274 --> 00:16:50,274
s

6969
00:16:50,274 --> 00:16:53,112
that include both just how you

6970
00:16:53,112 --> 00:16:53,112
r

6971
00:16:53,112 --> 00:16:54,917
populous is doing mentally, the

6972
00:16:54,917 --> 00:16:54,917


6973
00:16:54,917 --> 00:16:57,719
weather, the things that happe

6974
00:16:57,719 --> 00:16:57,719
n

6975
00:16:57,719 --> 00:17:00,520
on I-75, and so I really came

6976
00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:03,162
down here just today to bring u

6977
00:17:03,162 --> 00:17:03,162
p

6978
00:17:03,162 --> 00:17:06,961
the topic of finding new ways t

6979
00:17:06,961 --> 00:17:06,961
o

6980
00:17:06,961 --> 00:17:09,138
direct traffic that have more t

6981
00:17:09,138 --> 00:17:09,138
o

6982
00:17:09,138 --> 00:17:11,866
do with how life actually works

6983
00:17:11,866 --> 00:17:11,866


6984
00:17:11,866 --> 00:17:14,439
and how we want liev to be

6985
00:17:14,439 --> 00:17:16,566
because I understand you know,

6986
00:17:16,566 --> 00:17:16,566


6987
00:17:16,566 --> 00:17:17,748
the routines that we have

6988
00:17:17,748 --> 00:17:19,197
throughout the day are what

6989
00:17:19,197 --> 00:17:21,613
causes congestion in the morni

6990
00:17:21,613 --> 00:17:21,613
ng

6991
00:17:21,613 --> 00:17:23,775
and the evening, but when I was

6992
00:17:23,775 --> 00:17:23,775


6993
00:17:23,775 --> 00:17:26,719
driving here, today even, I was

6994
00:17:26,719 --> 00:17:26,719


6995
00:17:26,719 --> 00:17:29,747
stopped at a stoplight on main

6996
00:17:29,747 --> 00:17:29,747


6997
00:17:29,747 --> 00:17:32,303
street, next to southwest 16

6998
00:17:32,303 --> 00:17:34,421
ave., and there were no cars

6999
00:17:34,421 --> 00:17:35,284
coming from the other direction

7000
00:17:35,284 --> 00:17:35,284
s

7001
00:17:35,284 --> 00:17:36,963
but we just sat there for like

7002
00:17:36,963 --> 00:17:36,963


7003
00:17:36,963 --> 00:17:40,051
about a minute, maybe two, and

7004
00:17:40,051 --> 00:17:40,051


7005
00:17:40,051 --> 00:17:43,626
that's just not the way that y

7006
00:17:43,626 --> 00:17:43,626
ou

7007
00:17:43,626 --> 00:17:45,534
most efficiently direct people.

7008
00:17:45,534 --> 00:17:45,534


7009
00:17:45,534 --> 00:17:47,462
so you asked the question of

7010
00:17:47,462 --> 00:17:49,435
what can you do to make people

7011
00:17:49,435 --> 00:17:49,435


7012
00:17:49,435 --> 00:17:51,399
stop for stoplights, for publi

7013
00:17:51,399 --> 00:17:51,399
c

7014
00:17:51,399 --> 00:17:53,908
safety, and one of those thing

7015
00:17:53,908 --> 00:17:53,908
s

7016
00:17:53,908 --> 00:17:55,537
is that you need to build up

7017
00:17:55,537 --> 00:17:57,739
that trust between the

7018
00:17:57,739 --> 00:17:59,340
individual driving and the

7019
00:17:59,340 --> 00:18:00,656
infrastructure itself because a

7020
00:18:00,656 --> 00:18:00,656
s

7021
00:18:00,656 --> 00:18:03,409
it currently is, I've lost tru

7022
00:18:03,409 --> 00:18:03,409
st

7023
00:18:03,409 --> 00:18:04,464
in it.

7024
00:18:04,464 --> 00:18:05,519
I'm willing to respect the

7025
00:18:05,519 --> 00:18:07,922
government because I enjoy thi

7026
00:18:07,922 --> 00:18:07,922
s

7027
00:18:07,922 --> 00:18:07,922
town.

7028
00:18:07,922 --> 00:18:09,987
I enjoy the commissioners.

7029
00:18:09,987 --> 00:18:11,426
I love that they have put up

7030
00:18:11,426 --> 00:18:12,855
with, you know, some of my

7031
00:18:12,855 --> 00:18:16,973
shenanigans, but just because I

7032
00:18:16,973 --> 00:18:16,973


7033
00:18:16,973 --> 00:18:17,658
have that trust does not mean

7034
00:18:17,658 --> 00:18:19,067
that everyone else in the

7035
00:18:19,067 --> 00:18:20,065
community is going to maintain

7036
00:18:20,065 --> 00:18:20,065


7037
00:18:20,065 --> 00:18:21,463
that trust.

7038
00:18:21,463 --> 00:18:23,433
whether we're constantly being

7039
00:18:23,433 --> 00:18:23,433


7040
00:18:23,433 --> 00:18:28,271
left to sit on university and

7041
00:18:28,271 --> 00:18:31,047
441 and just not be able to mov

7042
00:18:31,047 --> 00:18:31,047
e

7043
00:18:31,047 --> 00:18:32,156
when there is nobody on the

7044
00:18:32,156 --> 00:18:32,156
way.

7045
00:18:32,156 --> 00:18:34,515
so if you really, really truly

7046
00:18:34,515 --> 00:18:34,515


7047
00:18:34,515 --> 00:18:36,715
do want to address the issue

7048
00:18:36,715 --> 00:18:38,766
with the red lights, then we

7049
00:18:38,766 --> 00:18:40,851
need to find a better solution

7050
00:18:40,851 --> 00:18:40,851


7051
00:18:40,851 --> 00:18:42,286
instead of tying every single

7052
00:18:42,286 --> 00:18:44,127
aspectf our infrastructure to

7053
00:18:44,127 --> 00:18:46,855
three badly timed lights light

7054
00:18:46,855 --> 00:18:46,855
s

7055
00:18:46,855 --> 00:18:47,425
on 441.

7056
00:18:47,425 --> 00:18:48,525
thank you.

7057
00:18:48,525 --> 00:18:49,192
>> mayor: thank you.

7058
00:18:49,192 --> 00:18:51,364
>> billy rohan followed by rya

7059
00:18:51,364 --> 00:18:51,364
n

7060
00:18:51,364 --> 00:18:55,131
bornet and annie rochelle.

7061
00:18:55,131 --> 00:18:56,623
>> mayor: welcome, mr. Rohan.

7062
00:18:56,623 --> 00:18:58,257
>> thank you, mr. Mayor.

7063
00:18:58,257 --> 00:19:01,629
[off mic]

7064
00:19:01,629 --> 00:19:04,105
greetings and good afternoon,

7065
00:19:04,105 --> 00:19:05,777
mayor ward, commissioners

7066
00:19:05,777 --> 00:19:09,388
eastman, commissioner ingle,

7067
00:19:09,388 --> 00:19:11,122
commissioner desmon walker and

7068
00:19:11,122 --> 00:19:11,122


7069
00:19:11,122 --> 00:19:12,652
commissioner books and

7070
00:19:12,652 --> 00:19:14,733
commissioner willits.

7071
00:19:14,733 --> 00:19:16,251
thank you for your time.

7072
00:19:16,251 --> 00:19:17,691
my name is billy rohan.

7073
00:19:17,691 --> 00:19:19,125
for years I have stood at this

7074
00:19:19,125 --> 00:19:19,125


7075
00:19:19,125 --> 00:19:21,827
podium in the city hall to

7076
00:19:21,827 --> 00:19:24,532
ensure the voices of district 3

7077
00:19:24,532 --> 00:19:24,532


7078
00:19:24,532 --> 00:19:25,567
are heard.

7079
00:19:25,567 --> 00:19:27,099
now I am asking for the

7080
00:19:27,099 --> 00:19:28,738
opportunity to bring that same

7081
00:19:28,738 --> 00:19:28,738


7082
00:19:28,738 --> 00:19:30,813
dedication to the dais.

7083
00:19:30,813 --> 00:19:32,241
our neighbors in southwest

7084
00:19:32,241 --> 00:19:33,976
gainesville deserve a

7085
00:19:33,976 --> 00:19:35,843
representative who prioritizes

7086
00:19:35,843 --> 00:19:35,843


7087
00:19:35,843 --> 00:19:37,619
fiscal accountability and commo

7088
00:19:37,619 --> 00:19:37,619
n

7089
00:19:37,619 --> 00:19:39,907
sense solutions.

7090
00:19:39,907 --> 00:19:40,861
citizens' concerns about

7091
00:19:40,861 --> 00:19:42,959
addressing utility

7092
00:19:42,959 --> 00:19:46,253
accountability, addressing the

7093
00:19:46,253 --> 00:19:46,253


7094
00:19:46,253 --> 00:19:48,313
$1.7 billion gru debt, and

7095
00:19:48,313 --> 00:19:49,953
stabilizing rates for residents

7096
00:19:49,953 --> 00:19:49,953


7097
00:19:49,953 --> 00:19:51,336
of gainesville.

7098
00:19:51,336 --> 00:19:53,799
a smart infrastructure, by

7099
00:19:53,799 --> 00:19:55,696
fixing traffic, the bottlenecks

7100
00:19:55,696 --> 00:19:55,696


7101
00:19:55,696 --> 00:19:57,757
along the archer road corridor,

7102
00:19:57,757 --> 00:19:57,757


7103
00:19:57,757 --> 00:20:00,169
and ensuring pedestrian safety

7104
00:20:00,169 --> 00:20:00,169


7105
00:20:00,169 --> 00:20:03,063
near haile plantation and tower

7106
00:20:03,063 --> 00:20:03,063


7107
00:20:03,063 --> 00:20:04,871
road, and finally, through

7108
00:20:04,871 --> 00:20:07,371
community investment, protecting

7109
00:20:07,371 --> 00:20:11,443
the public spaces and parks

7110
00:20:11,443 --> 00:20:12,908
deaght life here in gainesville

7111
00:20:12,908 --> 00:20:12,908
,

7112
00:20:12,908 --> 00:20:14,979
florida, that we all enjoy.

7113
00:20:14,979 --> 00:20:17,153
and gainesville in general.

7114
00:20:17,153 --> 00:20:18,783
thank you for your time.

7115
00:20:18,783 --> 00:20:20,556
I look forward to serving the

7116
00:20:20,556 --> 00:20:23,723
community of gainesville.

7117
00:20:23,723 --> 00:20:25,353
thanks for giving me so much

7118
00:20:25,353 --> 00:20:27,355
this city has in the last 45

7119
00:20:27,355 --> 00:20:29,293
years growing up here from goin

7120
00:20:29,293 --> 00:20:29,293
g

7121
00:20:29,293 --> 00:20:31,365
to school at duval elementary

7122
00:20:31,365 --> 00:20:33,134
school to gainesville high

7123
00:20:33,134 --> 00:20:35,867
school to new pathways and

7124
00:20:35,867 --> 00:20:37,699
horizons, everything that the

7125
00:20:37,699 --> 00:20:39,033
city has offered me, I really

7126
00:20:39,033 --> 00:20:40,207
appreciate it.

7127
00:20:40,207 --> 00:20:41,333
I hope y'all have a great rest

7128
00:20:41,333 --> 00:20:41,333


7129
00:20:41,333 --> 00:20:43,401
of your day, and a wonderful a

7130
00:20:43,401 --> 00:20:43,401
nd

7131
00:20:43,401 --> 00:20:44,367
happy easter.

7132
00:20:44,367 --> 00:20:45,575
thank you for your time agod

7133
00:20:45,575 --> 00:20:50,481
bless you.

7134
00:20:50,481 --> 00:20:50,951
>> mayor: thank you.

7135
00:20:50,951 --> 00:20:51,596
>> we have ryan bornet followed

7136
00:20:51,596 --> 00:20:51,596


7137
00:20:51,596 --> 00:20:52,615
by -- and jim konish.

7138
00:20:52,615 --> 00:20:52,615
to.

7139
00:20:52,615 --> 00:20:53,693
>> mayor: very good.

7140
00:20:53,693 --> 00:20:53,693
welcome.

7141
00:20:53,693 --> 00:20:55,559
>> hi.

7142
00:20:55,559 --> 00:20:56,757
mr. Mayor and commissione

7143
00:20:56,757 --> 00:20:59,486
appreciate your time and

7144
00:20:59,486 --> 00:20:59,486
attention.

7145
00:20:59,486 --> 00:21:02,023
-- on behalf of multiple

7146
00:21:02,023 --> 00:21:03,769
stakeholders when it comes to

7147
00:21:03,769 --> 00:21:04,961
the business community, and I

7148
00:21:04,961 --> 00:21:06,977
wanted to readdress something,

7149
00:21:06,977 --> 00:21:06,977
a

7150
00:21:06,977 --> 00:21:09,273
change that took place in

7151
00:21:09,273 --> 00:21:11,205
december and in january with

7152
00:21:11,205 --> 00:21:13,406
one-way pairs.

7153
00:21:13,406 --> 00:21:15,914
I speak on behalf of bagels

7154
00:21:15,914 --> 00:21:17,011
company gator beverage which I

7155
00:21:17,011 --> 00:21:17,011
s

7156
00:21:17,011 --> 00:21:18,339
my business, it's been our

7157
00:21:18,339 --> 00:21:20,601
family business in town for 35

7158
00:21:20,601 --> 00:21:20,601


7159
00:21:20,601 --> 00:21:22,643
years, the sweetwater coffee

7160
00:21:22,643 --> 00:21:25,415
company, jungle boys and then

7161
00:21:25,415 --> 00:21:25,415
smokeville.

7162
00:21:25,415 --> 00:21:29,489
since this change has taken

7163
00:21:29,489 --> 00:21:32,893
place, we've seen a significant

7164
00:21:32,893 --> 00:21:32,893


7165
00:21:32,893 --> 00:21:34,963
impact financially to all of o

7166
00:21:34,963 --> 00:21:34,963
ur

7167
00:21:34,963 --> 00:21:36,489
businesses in a very negative

7168
00:21:36,489 --> 00:21:39,711
way, and it, it certainly has

7169
00:21:39,711 --> 00:21:41,301
been a struggle to keep up

7170
00:21:41,301 --> 00:21:41,301
with.

7171
00:21:41,301 --> 00:21:44,271
access for businesses is very

7172
00:21:44,271 --> 00:21:44,271
important.

7173
00:21:44,271 --> 00:21:46,010
when I grew up I grew up in a

7174
00:21:46,010 --> 00:21:47,067
divorced household.

7175
00:21:47,067 --> 00:21:48,407
my mother and father both ran

7176
00:21:48,407 --> 00:21:51,145
their own businesses, and they

7177
00:21:51,145 --> 00:21:51,145


7178
00:21:51,145 --> 00:21:53,343
instilled a philosophy in me

7179
00:21:53,343 --> 00:21:55,515
that I carry and credit a lot o

7180
00:21:55,515 --> 00:21:55,515
f

7181
00:21:55,515 --> 00:21:58,159
our success in the business

7182
00:21:58,159 --> 00:22:00,979
scope, which is competition

7183
00:22:00,979 --> 00:22:02,087
makes you better.

7184
00:22:02,087 --> 00:22:04,045
if it's bad, you turn it into

7185
00:22:04,045 --> 00:22:04,045
a

7186
00:22:04,045 --> 00:22:04,045
good.

7187
00:22:04,045 --> 00:22:06,255
and the reason I'm standing up

7188
00:22:06,255 --> 00:22:06,255


7189
00:22:06,255 --> 00:22:08,326
here today is I'm struggling

7190
00:22:08,326 --> 00:22:11,966
deeply along with everyone in

7191
00:22:11,966 --> 00:22:12,681
the business community I

7192
00:22:12,681 --> 00:22:14,931
mentioned, with finding the

7193
00:22:14,931 --> 00:22:15,967
positive with the changes that

7194
00:22:15,967 --> 00:22:15,967


7195
00:22:15,967 --> 00:22:17,341
have taken place.

7196
00:22:17,341 --> 00:22:19,423
what we've experienced is worse

7197
00:22:19,423 --> 00:22:19,423


7198
00:22:19,423 --> 00:22:19,423
traffic.

7199
00:22:19,423 --> 00:22:21,953
we've experienced the financial

7200
00:22:21,953 --> 00:22:21,953


7201
00:22:21,953 --> 00:22:24,107
impact, our roadways are now

7202
00:22:24,107 --> 00:22:25,215
worse than they were previousl

7203
00:22:25,215 --> 00:22:25,215
y

7204
00:22:25,215 --> 00:22:28,386
as far as the condition of the

7205
00:22:28,386 --> 00:22:28,386


7206
00:22:28,386 --> 00:22:28,386
roads.

7207
00:22:28,386 --> 00:22:30,113
the neighborhood is suffering.

7208
00:22:30,113 --> 00:22:30,113


7209
00:22:30,113 --> 00:22:31,729
back in the december 4th

7210
00:22:31,729 --> 00:22:34,410
meeting that the community spo

7211
00:22:34,410 --> 00:22:34,410
ke

7212
00:22:34,410 --> 00:22:35,485
in in a prominent business

7213
00:22:35,485 --> 00:22:38,227
leader spoke, everyone spoke I

7214
00:22:38,227 --> 00:22:38,227
n

7215
00:22:38,227 --> 00:22:40,425
opposition of the changes, and

7216
00:22:40,425 --> 00:22:40,425


7217
00:22:40,425 --> 00:22:42,305
becauseof this arpa money, it

7218
00:22:42,305 --> 00:22:45,567
really came off after the fact

7219
00:22:45,567 --> 00:22:45,567


7220
00:22:45,567 --> 00:22:46,693
that this was a railroad

7221
00:22:46,693 --> 00:22:46,693
project.

7222
00:22:46,693 --> 00:22:50,605
this was just shoved down our

7223
00:22:50,605 --> 00:22:53,107
throats, and I would love to

7224
00:22:53,107 --> 00:22:54,541
find the optimistic side of

7225
00:22:54,541 --> 00:22:54,871
these changes.

7226
00:22:54,871 --> 00:22:57,141
I watch public safety as a maj

7227
00:22:57,141 --> 00:22:57,141
or

7228
00:22:57,141 --> 00:22:57,141
issue.

7229
00:22:57,141 --> 00:22:59,279
I had a police officer running

7230
00:22:59,279 --> 00:22:59,279


7231
00:22:59,279 --> 00:23:00,747
down the one way -- wrong way

7232
00:23:00,747 --> 00:23:02,143
two days ago because there was

7233
00:23:02,143 --> 00:23:02,318
a

7234
00:23:02,318 --> 00:23:04,149
criminal on the loose.

7235
00:23:04,149 --> 00:23:05,685
and what does that tell me?

7236
00:23:05,685 --> 00:23:06,889
that tells me that access to

7237
00:23:06,889 --> 00:23:08,418
emergency response is worse.

7238
00:23:08,418 --> 00:23:10,543
I'm a bicyclist.

7239
00:23:10,543 --> 00:23:13,251
I am the definition of vision

7240
00:23:13,251 --> 00:23:15,949
zero, I ride my bike four days

7241
00:23:15,949 --> 00:23:16,085
a

7242
00:23:16,085 --> 00:23:17,667
week 30 minutes both ways to

7243
00:23:17,667 --> 00:23:17,667
work.

7244
00:23:17,667 --> 00:23:21,897
and not one time when we had t

7245
00:23:21,897 --> 00:23:21,897
he

7246
00:23:21,897 --> 00:23:22,639
bike boulevard before the

7247
00:23:22,639 --> 00:23:23,637
changes did I ever think that I

7248
00:23:23,637 --> 00:23:23,637


7249
00:23:23,637 --> 00:23:24,741
needed more bike lanes.

7250
00:23:24,741 --> 00:23:27,273
or mike changes to the

7251
00:23:27,273 --> 00:23:27,273
infrastructure.

7252
00:23:27,273 --> 00:23:29,439
this is a transient community.

7253
00:23:29,439 --> 00:23:29,439


7254
00:23:29,439 --> 00:23:30,747
we train everyone on the one

7255
00:23:30,747 --> 00:23:32,140
ways, wait until august.

7256
00:23:32,140 --> 00:23:33,479
we have to train everyone all

7257
00:23:33,479 --> 00:23:34,247
over again.

7258
00:23:34,247 --> 00:23:36,457
it's -- everyone goes the wrong

7259
00:23:36,457 --> 00:23:36,457


7260
00:23:36,457 --> 00:23:37,649
way on the one ways.

7261
00:23:37,649 --> 00:23:40,294
it's dangerouses, and no one's

7262
00:23:40,294 --> 00:23:40,294
,

7263
00:23:40,294 --> 00:23:41,585
we're not slowing down drivers

7264
00:23:41,585 --> 00:23:41,585
.

7265
00:23:41,585 --> 00:23:42,447
we're not changing drivers.

7266
00:23:42,447 --> 00:23:44,852
and frankly I think it's very

7267
00:23:44,852 --> 00:23:46,391
biased towards all the people

7268
00:23:46,391 --> 00:23:47,559
that deserve the right to

7269
00:23:47,559 --> 00:23:47,559
drive.

7270
00:23:47,559 --> 00:23:50,660
I talk to neighborhood people

7271
00:23:50,660 --> 00:23:51,429
all the time and now they're

7272
00:23:51,429 --> 00:23:52,869
more inconvenienced than ever.

7273
00:23:52,869 --> 00:23:52,869


7274
00:23:52,869 --> 00:23:54,267
they can't ride a bike.

7275
00:23:54,267 --> 00:23:55,601
they have to drive.

7276
00:23:55,601 --> 00:23:58,117
and now they're circling back

7277
00:23:58,117 --> 00:23:59,103
five different ways to

7278
00:23:59,103 --> 00:23:59,534
accomplish something.

7279
00:23:59,534 --> 00:24:00,503
I know I've spoken withyou

7280
00:24:00,503 --> 00:24:00,503
individually.

7281
00:24:00,503 --> 00:24:04,773
and we've talked about --

7282
00:24:04,773 --> 00:24:05,683
obviously that's something tha

7283
00:24:05,683 --> 00:24:05,683
t

7284
00:24:05,683 --> 00:24:07,855
I would like to continue to mov

7285
00:24:07,855 --> 00:24:07,855
e

7286
00:24:07,855 --> 00:24:09,496
towards with the commission, but

7287
00:24:09,496 --> 00:24:09,496


7288
00:24:09,496 --> 00:24:11,119
I just want to be on the recor

7289
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:11,119
d

7290
00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:17,031
and open that the two-way was a

7291
00:24:17,031 --> 00:24:17,031


7292
00:24:17,031 --> 00:24:18,357
successful model and this chang

7293
00:24:18,357 --> 00:24:18,357
e

7294
00:24:18,357 --> 00:24:19,993
has been very, very harmful to

7295
00:24:19,993 --> 00:24:19,993


7296
00:24:19,993 --> 00:24:22,068
the businesses in the community

7297
00:24:22,068 --> 00:24:22,068
,

7298
00:24:22,068 --> 00:24:23,699
and you know at the commission

7299
00:24:23,699 --> 00:24:23,699


7300
00:24:23,699 --> 00:24:25,463
meeting that you voted against

7301
00:24:25,463 --> 00:24:25,463


7302
00:24:25,463 --> 00:24:26,665
everyone in the community, tha

7303
00:24:26,665 --> 00:24:26,665
t

7304
00:24:26,665 --> 00:24:29,507
was also said and now the

7305
00:24:29,507 --> 00:24:30,599
businesses are here trying to

7306
00:24:30,599 --> 00:24:31,602
also acknowledge that.

7307
00:24:31,602 --> 00:24:32,785
thank you.

7308
00:24:32,785 --> 00:24:34,881
>> mayor: thank you.

7309
00:24:34,881 --> 00:24:36,414
so I will ask that we, we

7310
00:24:36,414 --> 00:24:38,277
generally try not to clap or

7311
00:24:38,277 --> 00:24:41,547
cheer or jeer because the side

7312
00:24:41,547 --> 00:24:41,547


7313
00:24:41,547 --> 00:24:42,690
you're on right now might not b

7314
00:24:42,690 --> 00:24:42,690
e

7315
00:24:42,690 --> 00:24:43,613
the side that you're on next

7316
00:24:43,613 --> 00:24:44,857
time it happens so please try t

7317
00:24:44,857 --> 00:24:44,857
o

7318
00:24:44,857 --> 00:24:48,067
keep that from doing that.

7319
00:24:48,067 --> 00:24:49,457
>> annie rochelle followed by

7320
00:24:49,457 --> 00:24:52,057
jim konish and justin smith.

7321
00:24:52,057 --> 00:24:53,433
>> mayor: welcome.

7322
00:24:53,433 --> 00:24:56,364
>> thank you all.

7323
00:24:56,364 --> 00:24:57,891
unfortunately but fortunately

7324
00:24:57,891 --> 00:24:58,995
I'll sorry I have to be here

7325
00:24:58,995 --> 00:25:01,567
with this but fortunately I'm

7326
00:25:01,567 --> 00:25:03,569
glad I can bring it to you guy

7327
00:25:03,569 --> 00:25:03,569
s'

7328
00:25:03,569 --> 00:25:03,569
attention.

7329
00:25:03,569 --> 00:25:12,775
on 3/9 I was concerned with my

7330
00:25:12,775 --> 00:25:12,775


7331
00:25:12,775 --> 00:25:14,073
electric bill being so high, s

7332
00:25:14,073 --> 00:25:14,073
o

7333
00:25:14,073 --> 00:25:15,282
I with gan to research over

7334
00:25:15,282 --> 00:25:17,242
maybe -- began to research ove

7335
00:25:17,242 --> 00:25:17,242


7336
00:25:17,242 --> 00:25:19,457
maybe what could cause it to go

7337
00:25:19,457 --> 00:25:19,457


7338
00:25:19,457 --> 00:25:19,952
to that level and I realized

7339
00:25:19,952 --> 00:25:25,695
that my, the container garbage

7340
00:25:25,695 --> 00:25:25,695


7341
00:25:25,695 --> 00:25:27,757
container fee on there was not

7342
00:25:27,757 --> 00:25:27,757


7343
00:25:27,757 --> 00:25:30,595
what I thought it should be.

7344
00:25:30,595 --> 00:25:32,031
that I was supposed to be payin

7345
00:25:32,031 --> 00:25:32,031
g

7346
00:25:32,031 --> 00:25:32,031
for.

7347
00:25:32,031 --> 00:25:37,063
so I rirched my bill for march

7348
00:25:37,063 --> 00:25:37,063


7349
00:25:37,063 --> 00:25:40,335
it was consistent of this year.

7350
00:25:40,335 --> 00:25:40,335


7351
00:25:40,335 --> 00:25:43,319
for '25 I had four different

7352
00:25:43,319 --> 00:25:45,474
fees for that.

7353
00:25:45,474 --> 00:25:50,944
20.56, 31.80, 33.50, 41.52.

7354
00:25:50,944 --> 00:25:53,118
so I called.

7355
00:25:53,118 --> 00:25:55,127
I said that can't be.

7356
00:25:55,127 --> 00:25:57,091
and I've had that problem

7357
00:25:57,091 --> 00:25:59,259
before, so I called, and I

7358
00:25:59,259 --> 00:26:01,566
talked with the young lady.

7359
00:26:01,566 --> 00:26:03,855
she said yes, ms. Rochelle.

7360
00:26:03,855 --> 00:26:03,855
inconsistency.

7361
00:26:03,855 --> 00:26:07,565
let me get back, let me get bac

7362
00:26:07,565 --> 00:26:07,565
k

7363
00:26:07,565 --> 00:26:12,069
with you so she put me on hold

7364
00:26:12,069 --> 00:26:12,069


7365
00:26:12,069 --> 00:26:13,805
and said so she said well, som

7366
00:26:13,805 --> 00:26:13,805
e

7367
00:26:13,805 --> 00:26:15,673
of the prices changed.

7368
00:26:15,673 --> 00:26:19,076
something, I could have maybe

7369
00:26:19,076 --> 00:26:19,076
overlooked.

7370
00:26:19,076 --> 00:26:21,247
so we go on that was on a

7371
00:26:21,247 --> 00:26:21,247
monday.

7372
00:26:21,247 --> 00:26:24,694
so I said well, I don't need a

7373
00:26:24,694 --> 00:26:24,694


7374
00:26:24,694 --> 00:26:25,984
bigger container.

7375
00:26:25,984 --> 00:26:27,719
I want what I initially started

7376
00:26:27,719 --> 00:26:27,719


7377
00:26:27,719 --> 00:26:27,719
with.

7378
00:26:27,719 --> 00:26:32,084
I moved there 2020.

7379
00:26:32,084 --> 00:26:36,897
and so therefore it wasn't the

7380
00:26:36,897 --> 00:26:36,897


7381
00:26:36,897 --> 00:26:39,193
price that for that retainer.

7382
00:26:39,193 --> 00:26:40,099
and -- container.

7383
00:26:40,099 --> 00:26:42,293
and so therefore, I said no,

7384
00:26:42,293 --> 00:26:43,472
this is not right.

7385
00:26:43,472 --> 00:26:44,946
this is just not good.

7386
00:26:44,946 --> 00:26:47,848
and so she said okay well I'll

7387
00:26:47,848 --> 00:26:47,848


7388
00:26:47,848 --> 00:26:49,504
forward it forward.

7389
00:26:49,504 --> 00:26:51,051
that was that monday.

7390
00:26:51,051 --> 00:26:52,712
tuesday, wednesday, they came

7391
00:26:52,712 --> 00:26:55,311
and changed out the garbage can

7392
00:26:55,311 --> 00:26:55,311


7393
00:26:55,311 --> 00:26:58,250
to what I really wanted.

7394
00:26:58,250 --> 00:27:01,218
and so thursday go by, friday

7395
00:27:01,218 --> 00:27:03,887
come, I never heard anything

7396
00:27:03,887 --> 00:27:03,887
back.

7397
00:27:03,887 --> 00:27:05,371
I pick up the phone, I called

7398
00:27:05,371 --> 00:27:05,371
them.

7399
00:27:05,371 --> 00:27:08,561
and I asked them.

7400
00:27:08,561 --> 00:27:10,739
I said hey, what was the deal o

7401
00:27:10,739 --> 00:27:10,739
n

7402
00:27:10,739 --> 00:27:10,739
this?

7403
00:27:10,739 --> 00:27:12,163
what  what happened?

7404
00:27:12,163 --> 00:27:15,697
they said well ms. Rochelle, I

7405
00:27:15,697 --> 00:27:15,697
'm

7406
00:27:15,697 --> 00:27:16,614
sorry, there is nothing we can

7407
00:27:16,614 --> 00:27:16,614


7408
00:27:16,614 --> 00:27:17,432
do because you called before.

7409
00:27:17,432 --> 00:27:19,076
I said I did.

7410
00:27:19,076 --> 00:27:21,472
and they say, I said yes, about

7411
00:27:21,472 --> 00:27:21,472


7412
00:27:21,472 --> 00:27:23,677
my, about the rates not being

7413
00:27:23,677 --> 00:27:24,646
the same before, consistent

7414
00:27:24,646 --> 00:27:24,646
before.

7415
00:27:24,646 --> 00:27:28,281
she said no, that was gru

7416
00:27:28,281 --> 00:27:28,281
fault.

7417
00:27:28,281 --> 00:27:31,656
and so therefore they say I sa

7418
00:27:31,656 --> 00:27:31,656
id

7419
00:27:31,656 --> 00:27:34,419
well that was warranted then.

7420
00:27:34,419 --> 00:27:38,060
and so, and so she said no, you

7421
00:27:38,060 --> 00:27:38,060


7422
00:27:38,060 --> 00:27:42,330
call before, and I said yeah, I

7423
00:27:42,330 --> 00:27:42,330


7424
00:27:42,330 --> 00:27:43,410
said I did.

7425
00:27:43,410 --> 00:27:45,400
I called back about debris bei

7426
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:45,400
ng

7427
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,229
put in my yard, by the city

7428
00:27:47,229 --> 00:27:47,229
workers.

7429
00:27:47,229 --> 00:27:49,565
and so she said yes, that is

7430
00:27:49,565 --> 00:27:52,939
what I'm talking about.

7431
00:27:52,939 --> 00:27:55,065
I said, she said because of that

7432
00:27:55,065 --> 00:27:55,065


7433
00:27:55,065 --> 00:27:56,337
and you did not bring that to

7434
00:27:56,337 --> 00:27:58,877
our attention then, we can't

7435
00:27:58,877 --> 00:28:01,103
help you now basically.

7436
00:28:01,103 --> 00:28:04,372
and I said but that was then a

7437
00:28:04,372 --> 00:28:04,372
nd

7438
00:28:04,372 --> 00:28:05,622
that was about something else

7439
00:28:05,622 --> 00:28:07,183
and this is now.

7440
00:28:07,183 --> 00:28:10,823
when I did that, that was in '

7441
00:28:10,823 --> 00:28:10,823
23

7442
00:28:10,823 --> 00:28:14,457
and '24, october --

7443
00:28:14,457 --> 00:28:16,184
>> mayor: I'm going to ask you

7444
00:28:16,184 --> 00:28:16,184


7445
00:28:16,184 --> 00:28:17,059
to wrap up if you will.

7446
00:28:17,059 --> 00:28:18,489
-- manager's office --

7447
00:28:18,489 --> 00:28:19,008
>> okay.

7448
00:28:19,008 --> 00:28:21,135
well nevertheless, I was told

7449
00:28:21,135 --> 00:28:22,634
that there was nothing -- I

7450
00:28:22,634 --> 00:28:23,832
don't feel that I should or

7451
00:28:23,832 --> 00:28:25,037
anybody else should be

7452
00:28:25,037 --> 00:28:26,919
retaliated against for making a

7453
00:28:26,919 --> 00:28:26,919


7454
00:28:26,919 --> 00:28:26,919
complaint.

7455
00:28:26,919 --> 00:28:28,433
I pay my taxes.

7456
00:28:28,433 --> 00:28:30,403
I pay my utility fees.

7457
00:28:30,403 --> 00:28:32,281
I pay my state taxes.

7458
00:28:32,281 --> 00:28:34,907
I do what I'm supposed to, and

7459
00:28:34,907 --> 00:28:34,996
I

7460
00:28:34,996 --> 00:28:36,595
have a right I did not know that

7461
00:28:36,595 --> 00:28:36,595


7462
00:28:36,595 --> 00:28:40,096
the city had a limit on the

7463
00:28:40,096 --> 00:28:42,117
complaints or a timeline.

7464
00:28:42,117 --> 00:28:43,063
>> mayor: so there is clearly a

7465
00:28:43,063 --> 00:28:43,063


7466
00:28:43,063 --> 00:28:43,063
misunderstanding.

7467
00:28:43,063 --> 00:28:45,395
we'll have someone from the

7468
00:28:45,395 --> 00:28:46,393
manager's office talk with you

7469
00:28:46,393 --> 00:28:46,393
,

7470
00:28:46,393 --> 00:28:46,393
okay?

7471
00:28:46,393 --> 00:28:47,631
all right.

7472
00:28:47,631 --> 00:28:48,989
thank you.

7473
00:28:48,989 --> 00:28:49,326
>> thank you.

7474
00:28:49,326 --> 00:28:50,231
thank you all.

7475
00:28:50,231 --> 00:28:51,768
no that was for them to see.

7476
00:28:51,768 --> 00:28:51,768
[laughter]

7477
00:28:51,768 --> 00:28:55,566
>> we have jim konish followed

7478
00:28:55,566 --> 00:28:55,566


7479
00:28:55,566 --> 00:28:58,438
by justin smith and kali

7480
00:28:58,438 --> 00:28:58,438
blount.

7481
00:28:58,438 --> 00:29:00,543
>> mayor: welcome, mr. Konish.

7482
00:29:00,543 --> 00:29:00,543


7483
00:29:00,543 --> 00:29:01,477
>> mr. Mayor, jim konish, good

7484
00:29:01,477 --> 00:29:01,477


7485
00:29:01,477 --> 00:29:01,477
afternoon.

7486
00:29:01,477 --> 00:29:04,342
like the overhead, please.

7487
00:29:04,342 --> 00:29:09,002
in 1997, alachua county rolled

7488
00:29:09,002 --> 00:29:09,002


7489
00:29:09,002 --> 00:29:10,950
out a, what was called a

7490
00:29:10,950 --> 00:29:12,720
privilege fee.

7491
00:29:12,720 --> 00:29:16,874
and everyone that was anyone I

7492
00:29:16,874 --> 00:29:16,874
n

7493
00:29:16,874 --> 00:29:20,130
intervened, and the honorable

7494
00:29:20,130 --> 00:29:22,093
frederick smith an iconic judge

7495
00:29:22,093 --> 00:29:22,093


7496
00:29:22,093 --> 00:29:29,542
concluded that this was an

7497
00:29:29,542 --> 00:29:30,277
unconstitutional tax and that'

7498
00:29:30,277 --> 00:29:30,277
s

7499
00:29:30,277 --> 00:29:31,742
because when you let a utility

7500
00:29:31,742 --> 00:29:31,742


7501
00:29:31,742 --> 00:29:33,799
into your right-of-way for fre

7502
00:29:33,799 --> 00:29:33,799
e

7503
00:29:33,799 --> 00:29:36,407
for 100 years, and they get

7504
00:29:36,407 --> 00:29:38,845
comfortable in there, you can't

7505
00:29:38,845 --> 00:29:38,845


7506
00:29:38,845 --> 00:29:41,444
like have second thoughts about

7507
00:29:41,444 --> 00:29:41,444


7508
00:29:41,444 --> 00:29:43,976
it and sap a franchise fee

7509
00:29:43,976 --> 00:29:45,143
because a franchise fee has to

7510
00:29:45,143 --> 00:29:45,143


7511
00:29:45,143 --> 00:29:48,122
be negotiated in a contract.

7512
00:29:48,122 --> 00:29:51,188
so the city of gainesville and

7513
00:29:51,188 --> 00:29:51,188


7514
00:29:51,188 --> 00:29:53,287
alachua county commission let

7515
00:29:53,287 --> 00:29:55,226
gru enter their rights-of-way

7516
00:29:55,226 --> 00:29:58,078
without any kind of contract a

7517
00:29:58,078 --> 00:29:58,078
nd

7518
00:29:58,078 --> 00:30:00,164
they're going to stay there

7519
00:30:00,164 --> 00:30:01,067
forever without any kind of

7520
00:30:01,067 --> 00:30:02,981
contract and your franchise fee

7521
00:30:02,981 --> 00:30:02,981


7522
00:30:02,981 --> 00:30:03,899
that you're discussing is

7523
00:30:03,899 --> 00:30:05,981
illegal, sir.

7524
00:30:05,981 --> 00:30:09,540
it's a tax, and mr.-- knows

7525
00:30:09,540 --> 00:30:09,540
this.

7526
00:30:09,540 --> 00:30:11,004
in terms of you meeting your

7527
00:30:11,004 --> 00:30:12,337
budget, the first thing you

7528
00:30:12,337 --> 00:30:13,945
should do is stop paying for t

7529
00:30:13,945 --> 00:30:13,945
he

7530
00:30:13,945 --> 00:30:15,718
county street lights.

7531
00:30:15,718 --> 00:30:17,116
they're not entitled to any

7532
00:30:17,116 --> 00:30:21,289
compensation for gru's use of

7533
00:30:21,289 --> 00:30:22,066
their right-of-way and in fact

7534
00:30:22,066 --> 00:30:22,066


7535
00:30:22,066 --> 00:30:23,454
they have to get on their knees

7536
00:30:23,454 --> 00:30:23,454


7537
00:30:23,454 --> 00:30:25,024
and beg to save a few live oak

7538
00:30:25,024 --> 00:30:25,024


7539
00:30:25,024 --> 00:30:27,660
trees because they cannot even

7540
00:30:27,660 --> 00:30:27,660


7541
00:30:27,660 --> 00:30:28,630
regulate the use of right-of-wa

7542
00:30:28,630 --> 00:30:28,630
y

7543
00:30:28,630 --> 00:30:30,196
and I want to remind you you'v

7544
00:30:30,196 --> 00:30:30,196
e

7545
00:30:30,196 --> 00:30:32,062
passed an ordinance purporting

7546
00:30:32,062 --> 00:30:32,062


7547
00:30:32,062 --> 00:30:34,136
to require gru permits in your

7548
00:30:34,136 --> 00:30:34,136


7549
00:30:34,136 --> 00:30:35,667
right-of-ways, and they have

7550
00:30:35,667 --> 00:30:36,539
ignored it because it's

7551
00:30:36,539 --> 00:30:36,539
illegal.

7552
00:30:36,539 --> 00:30:41,340
not that they can't impose

7553
00:30:41,340 --> 00:30:41,888
franchise fees.

7554
00:30:41,888 --> 00:30:44,903
you can't impose conditions on

7555
00:30:44,903 --> 00:30:44,903


7556
00:30:44,903 --> 00:30:45,945
their occupancy of

7557
00:30:45,945 --> 00:30:47,372
rights-of-way, sir, and I'm

7558
00:30:47,372 --> 00:30:49,571
abhaized like you're eving --

7559
00:30:49,571 --> 00:30:50,922
amazed you're even talking abo

7560
00:30:50,922 --> 00:30:50,922
ut

7561
00:30:50,922 --> 00:30:50,922
this.

7562
00:30:50,922 --> 00:30:52,802
it's settled law, that's just

7563
00:30:52,802 --> 00:30:53,414
the way it is.

7564
00:30:53,414 --> 00:30:56,220
but the ult of gru to -- abili

7565
00:30:56,220 --> 00:30:56,220
ty

7566
00:30:56,220 --> 00:30:58,888
of gru to pay you any money is

7567
00:30:58,888 --> 00:30:58,888


7568
00:30:58,888 --> 00:31:02,498
limited by the legacy costs of

7569
00:31:02,498 --> 00:31:02,498


7570
00:31:02,498 --> 00:31:04,165
this commission's mismanagement

7571
00:31:04,165 --> 00:31:04,165


7572
00:31:04,165 --> 00:31:06,564
of gru.

7573
00:31:06,564 --> 00:31:09,844
gru loses $46 million a year o

7574
00:31:09,844 --> 00:31:09,844
n

7575
00:31:09,844 --> 00:31:12,910
european style solar feeder

7576
00:31:12,910 --> 00:31:14,543
tariff enjoyed by a former may

7577
00:31:14,543 --> 00:31:14,543
or

7578
00:31:14,543 --> 00:31:15,942
and her cronies.

7579
00:31:15,942 --> 00:31:17,840
four to $6 million a year we're

7580
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:17,840


7581
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:19,148
in year 17 of a 20-year

7582
00:31:19,148 --> 00:31:26,349
agreement, sir: gru pays

7583
00:31:26,349 --> 00:31:28,228
$1.2 million to -- pollution a

7584
00:31:28,228 --> 00:31:28,228
t

7585
00:31:28,228 --> 00:31:30,064
depot park, sir, after spending

7586
00:31:30,064 --> 00:31:30,064


7587
00:31:30,064 --> 00:31:32,264
tens of millions.

7588
00:31:32,264 --> 00:31:33,558
gru provides the county with

7589
00:31:33,558 --> 00:31:35,428
free fire hydrants.

7590
00:31:35,428 --> 00:31:36,566
costs them about a million a

7591
00:31:36,566 --> 00:31:36,566
year.

7592
00:31:36,566 --> 00:31:40,182
no justification for thithere

7593
00:31:40,182 --> 00:31:40,586
is no recognition of it

7594
00:31:40,586 --> 00:31:40,586
either.

7595
00:31:40,586 --> 00:31:43,013
group -- $2 million a year

7596
00:31:43,013 --> 00:31:45,072
because the services they

7597
00:31:45,072 --> 00:31:46,389
provide to the city, the county,

7598
00:31:46,389 --> 00:31:46,389


7599
00:31:46,389 --> 00:31:47,470
and school board do not cover

7600
00:31:47,470 --> 00:31:50,970
the costs so you're freeloading

7601
00:31:50,970 --> 00:31:50,970


7602
00:31:50,970 --> 00:31:53,946
on that level.

7603
00:31:53,946 --> 00:31:55,464
private developer got gru to

7604
00:31:55,464 --> 00:31:58,090
install a package plant in cro

7605
00:31:58,090 --> 00:31:58,090
ss

7606
00:31:58,090 --> 00:32:02,322
creek 16 miles from gru -- lin

7607
00:32:02,322 --> 00:32:02,322
es

7608
00:32:02,322 --> 00:32:03,694
it's failed gru is trucking the

7609
00:32:03,694 --> 00:32:03,694


7610
00:32:03,694 --> 00:32:05,456
sewage out of there.

7611
00:32:05,456 --> 00:32:07,964
weekly at a loss of a third of

7612
00:32:07,964 --> 00:32:08,289
a

7613
00:32:08,289 --> 00:32:09,405
million dollars and I could go

7614
00:32:09,405 --> 00:32:09,405


7615
00:32:09,405 --> 00:32:10,460
but I'm out of time.

7616
00:32:10,460 --> 00:32:11,560
thank you, sir.

7617
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:12,123
>> mayor: thank you,

7618
00:32:12,123 --> 00:32:12,836
mr. Konish.

7619
00:32:12,836 --> 00:32:14,863
I would remind everyone that t

7620
00:32:14,863 --> 00:32:14,863
he

7621
00:32:14,863 --> 00:32:15,905
city commission doesn't run

7622
00:32:15,905 --> 00:32:15,905
gru.

7623
00:32:15,905 --> 00:32:18,081
>> mr. Mayor, we're onto justin

7624
00:32:18,081 --> 00:32:18,081


7625
00:32:18,081 --> 00:32:21,038
smith, followed by kali blount

7626
00:32:21,038 --> 00:32:21,038


7627
00:32:21,038 --> 00:32:22,642
and andrew miles.

7628
00:32:22,642 --> 00:32:28,204
>> mayor: welcome, mr. Smith.

7629
00:32:28,204 --> 00:32:30,503
>> good afternoon, mr. Chair.

7630
00:32:30,503 --> 00:32:32,188
I'm here today on behalf of th

7631
00:32:32,188 --> 00:32:32,188
e

7632
00:32:32,188 --> 00:32:33,270
community of individuals who

7633
00:32:33,270 --> 00:32:35,620
live here downtown.

7634
00:32:35,620 --> 00:32:37,792
they have many struggles.

7635
00:32:37,792 --> 00:32:39,364
many suffer varying degrees of

7636
00:32:39,364 --> 00:32:39,364


7637
00:32:39,364 --> 00:32:41,724
mental health challenges, many

7638
00:32:41,724 --> 00:32:41,724


7639
00:32:41,724 --> 00:32:43,600
are victims of severe trauma a

7640
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:43,600
nd

7641
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,992
abuse, sometimes as children,

7642
00:32:46,992 --> 00:32:48,833
sometimes in service of our

7643
00:32:48,833 --> 00:32:48,833
country.

7644
00:32:48,833 --> 00:32:51,087
sometimes both.

7645
00:32:51,087 --> 00:32:52,338
often these friends of mine are

7646
00:32:52,338 --> 00:32:52,338


7647
00:32:52,338 --> 00:32:53,004
struggling to overcome

7648
00:32:53,004 --> 00:32:53,004
addictions.

7649
00:32:53,004 --> 00:32:56,378
many of them have spent

7650
00:32:56,378 --> 00:32:59,118
significant time in prison.

7651
00:32:59,118 --> 00:33:01,412
for a host of reasons, most hav

7652
00:33:01,412 --> 00:33:01,412
e

7653
00:33:01,412 --> 00:33:04,821
no support from family or

7654
00:33:04,821 --> 00:33:06,020
friends, and now they are

7655
00:33:06,020 --> 00:33:08,030
trapped and living a life on th

7656
00:33:08,030 --> 00:33:08,030
e

7657
00:33:08,030 --> 00:33:08,030
street.

7658
00:33:08,030 --> 00:33:11,762
they are commonly lonely,

7659
00:33:11,762 --> 00:33:15,858
afraid, anxious, angry,

7660
00:33:15,858 --> 00:33:17,829
depressed, cold.

7661
00:33:17,829 --> 00:33:20,440
and hungry.

7662
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:22,198
but there is one message that

7663
00:33:22,198 --> 00:33:24,070
nearly all of these folks are

7664
00:33:24,070 --> 00:33:27,274
given day in and day out; one

7665
00:33:27,274 --> 00:33:28,871
lie that these image bearers o

7666
00:33:28,871 --> 00:33:28,871
f

7667
00:33:28,871 --> 00:33:32,410
god are constantly told.

7668
00:33:32,410 --> 00:33:33,160
they are told that they are

7669
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:33,160
worthless.

7670
00:33:33,160 --> 00:33:37,890
that tay don't matter.

7671
00:33:37,890 --> 00:33:39,815
that it is the same lie that

7672
00:33:39,815 --> 00:33:40,922
many of them have been told for

7673
00:33:40,922 --> 00:33:40,922


7674
00:33:40,922 --> 00:33:44,100
so long that they've come to

7675
00:33:44,100 --> 00:33:44,856
believe it.

7676
00:33:44,856 --> 00:33:46,262
mr. Chair, I don't think you

7677
00:33:46,262 --> 00:33:47,660
believe this lie anymore than I

7678
00:33:47,660 --> 00:33:47,660


7679
00:33:47,660 --> 00:33:47,660
do.

7680
00:33:47,660 --> 00:33:50,224
and I would like to thank you

7681
00:33:50,224 --> 00:33:52,200
and our city for the many

7682
00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:53,730
efforts made to support this

7683
00:33:53,730 --> 00:33:55,136
vulnerable portion of our

7684
00:33:55,136 --> 00:33:55,136
population.

7685
00:33:55,136 --> 00:33:55,136
however.

7686
00:33:55,136 --> 00:34:00,166
as you are aware, our community

7687
00:34:00,166 --> 00:34:00,166


7688
00:34:00,166 --> 00:34:01,606
has recently suffered an

7689
00:34:01,606 --> 00:34:04,107
incredible loss in services due

7690
00:34:04,107 --> 00:34:04,107


7691
00:34:04,107 --> 00:34:06,594
to the closure of st. Francis

7692
00:34:06,594 --> 00:34:06,594
house.

7693
00:34:06,594 --> 00:34:09,918
it is impossible to overstate

7694
00:34:09,918 --> 00:34:12,748
the importance of providing

7695
00:34:12,748 --> 00:34:15,096
daily hot meals and a shower t

7696
00:34:15,096 --> 00:34:15,096
o

7697
00:34:15,096 --> 00:34:18,264
people in need.

7698
00:34:18,264 --> 00:34:21,473
therefore, I encourage you to

7699
00:34:21,473 --> 00:34:23,860
look for and doggedly pursue

7700
00:34:23,860 --> 00:34:25,594
future partnerships to help fil

7701
00:34:25,594 --> 00:34:25,594
l

7702
00:34:25,594 --> 00:34:29,327
this gap as opportunities

7703
00:34:29,327 --> 00:34:29,327
arise.

7704
00:34:29,327 --> 00:34:31,434
please continue the work of

7705
00:34:31,434 --> 00:34:33,040
serving these members of our

7706
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:33,040
community.

7707
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:36,676
my friends on the street.

7708
00:34:36,676 --> 00:34:38,544
thank you for your time.

7709
00:34:38,544 --> 00:34:40,445
>> mayor: thank you.

7710
00:34:40,445 --> 00:34:43,450
>> mr. Mayor, we have kali

7711
00:34:43,450 --> 00:34:44,837
blount and then mr. Andrew

7712
00:34:44,837 --> 00:34:44,837
miles.

7713
00:34:44,837 --> 00:34:49,882
>> mayor: welcome, mr. Blount.

7714
00:34:49,882 --> 00:34:49,882


7715
00:34:49,882 --> 00:34:50,264
>> thank you.

7716
00:34:50,264 --> 00:34:53,188
I attended an event about net

7717
00:34:53,188 --> 00:34:56,154
zero the other day at the bloun

7718
00:34:56,154 --> 00:34:56,154
t

7719
00:34:56,154 --> 00:35:00,864
center, and as is too ovthe cas

7720
00:35:00,864 --> 00:35:00,864
e

7721
00:35:00,864 --> 00:35:03,386
in -- often the case in the cit

7722
00:35:03,386 --> 00:35:03,386
y

7723
00:35:03,386 --> 00:35:04,554
outreach events we the public

7724
00:35:04,554 --> 00:35:05,536
got to sit and hear

7725
00:35:05,536 --> 00:35:07,220
presentations from staffs of

7726
00:35:07,220 --> 00:35:10,410
several departments and the we

7727
00:35:10,410 --> 00:35:10,410


7728
00:35:10,410 --> 00:35:12,814
the public did not get to give

7729
00:35:12,814 --> 00:35:12,814


7730
00:35:12,814 --> 00:35:14,916
our questions and statements to

7731
00:35:14,916 --> 00:35:14,916


7732
00:35:14,916 --> 00:35:17,044
the whole room to all staff and

7733
00:35:17,044 --> 00:35:17,044


7734
00:35:17,044 --> 00:35:17,614
public present.

7735
00:35:17,614 --> 00:35:20,352
that is, we were told well vis

7736
00:35:20,352 --> 00:35:20,352
it

7737
00:35:20,352 --> 00:35:22,114
each table and but that's not

7738
00:35:22,114 --> 00:35:24,190
speaking to the room and to

7739
00:35:24,190 --> 00:35:24,190
everybody.

7740
00:35:24,190 --> 00:35:28,994
so about these, about net zero.

7741
00:35:28,994 --> 00:35:28,994


7742
00:35:28,994 --> 00:35:30,226
I'm going to rattle off as lis

7743
00:35:30,226 --> 00:35:30,226
t

7744
00:35:30,226 --> 00:35:31,530
as quick as I can in this time

7745
00:35:31,530 --> 00:35:31,530


7746
00:35:31,530 --> 00:35:31,530
frame.

7747
00:35:31,530 --> 00:35:35,561
all offender ignition interlock

7748
00:35:35,561 --> 00:35:35,561


7749
00:35:35,561 --> 00:35:38,066
laws, has to do with d.u.I.,

7750
00:35:38,066 --> 00:35:40,285
.05% blood alcohol content and

7751
00:35:40,285 --> 00:35:40,285


7752
00:35:40,285 --> 00:35:41,813
strict penalty laws as far as

7753
00:35:41,813 --> 00:35:42,674
revocation for repeat

7754
00:35:42,674 --> 00:35:42,674
offenders.

7755
00:35:42,674 --> 00:35:45,640
primary front seat belt laws.

7756
00:35:45,640 --> 00:35:50,049
primary rear seat belt laws.

7757
00:35:50,049 --> 00:35:50,927
speed cameras.

7758
00:35:50,927 --> 00:35:52,213
reduced speed limits where

7759
00:35:52,213 --> 00:35:52,213
appropriate.

7760
00:35:52,213 --> 00:35:55,930
all driver handheld devices

7761
00:35:55,930 --> 00:35:55,930
banned.

7762
00:35:55,930 --> 00:36:00,276
graduated driver licensing for

7763
00:36:00,276 --> 00:36:00,276


7764
00:36:00,276 --> 00:36:01,728
teens including younger permit

7765
00:36:01,728 --> 00:36:01,728


7766
00:36:01,728 --> 00:36:01,728
age.

7767
00:36:01,728 --> 00:36:05,045
not younger license but a longer

7768
00:36:05,045 --> 00:36:05,045


7769
00:36:05,045 --> 00:36:06,668
supervised learning period.

7770
00:36:06,668 --> 00:36:10,271
mandatory supervised hours fra

7771
00:36:10,271 --> 00:36:10,271
t

7772
00:36:10,271 --> 00:36:10,271
learning.

7773
00:36:10,271 --> 00:36:12,434
nighttime driving restrictions,

7774
00:36:12,434 --> 00:36:12,434


7775
00:36:12,434 --> 00:36:13,893
passenger restrictions, this I

7776
00:36:13,893 --> 00:36:13,893
s

7777
00:36:13,893 --> 00:36:14,977
again with young people.

7778
00:36:14,977 --> 00:36:17,910
intermediate license age.

7779
00:36:17,910 --> 00:36:19,447
other safety laws.

7780
00:36:19,447 --> 00:36:21,015
rear facing carseat law for

7781
00:36:21,015 --> 00:36:21,593
small children.

7782
00:36:21,593 --> 00:36:24,190
booster seat law.

7783
00:36:24,190 --> 00:36:25,488
motorcycle helmet laws.

7784
00:36:25,488 --> 00:36:27,045
that one stands out to me havin

7785
00:36:27,045 --> 00:36:27,045
g

7786
00:36:27,045 --> 00:36:28,885
seen many scrambled

7787
00:36:28,885 --> 00:36:31,953
motorcyclistsbrains in the e.r

7788
00:36:31,953 --> 00:36:31,953
.

7789
00:36:31,953 --> 00:36:33,293
all driver alcohol open

7790
00:36:33,293 --> 00:36:34,358
container law.

7791
00:36:34,358 --> 00:36:36,225
slow down move over laws.

7792
00:36:36,225 --> 00:36:40,558
this list of laws is done in

7793
00:36:40,558 --> 00:36:41,366
those states that have the

7794
00:36:41,366 --> 00:36:45,744
lowest traffic accident deaths.

7795
00:36:45,744 --> 00:36:45,744


7796
00:36:45,744 --> 00:36:49,342
so I favor your net zero effor

7797
00:36:49,342 --> 00:36:49,342
ts

7798
00:36:49,342 --> 00:36:51,278
here but your problem is in

7799
00:36:51,278 --> 00:36:51,278
tallahassee.

7800
00:36:51,278 --> 00:36:55,283
florida has three of these 17

7801
00:36:55,283 --> 00:36:55,283
laws.

7802
00:36:55,283 --> 00:36:58,447
and if they care about the

7803
00:36:58,447 --> 00:37:00,750
public, in tallahassee, they

7804
00:37:00,750 --> 00:37:04,120
ought to be passing these laws.

7805
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:04,120


7806
00:37:04,120 --> 00:37:07,110
instead of listening to private

7807
00:37:07,110 --> 00:37:07,110


7808
00:37:07,110 --> 00:37:10,260
interests that want to limit

7809
00:37:10,260 --> 00:37:10,990
these laws.

7810
00:37:10,990 --> 00:37:13,431
for instance, motorcycle helme

7811
00:37:13,431 --> 00:37:13,431
ts

7812
00:37:13,431 --> 00:37:15,732
used to be the law.

7813
00:37:15,732 --> 00:37:17,899
and some people put on a

7814
00:37:17,899 --> 00:37:19,635
powerful lobbying effort to get

7815
00:37:19,635 --> 00:37:19,635


7816
00:37:19,635 --> 00:37:22,175
rid of that and in fact the lea

7817
00:37:22,175 --> 00:37:22,175
d

7818
00:37:22,175 --> 00:37:23,739
lobbyist died of head injuries

7819
00:37:23,739 --> 00:37:23,739


7820
00:37:23,739 --> 00:37:27,082
in a motorcycle crash.

7821
00:37:27,082 --> 00:37:28,848
so these laws are needed to

7822
00:37:28,848 --> 00:37:31,686
really reach your goal.

7823
00:37:31,686 --> 00:37:32,324
>> mayor: I don't think anybody

7824
00:37:32,324 --> 00:37:32,324


7825
00:37:32,324 --> 00:37:32,997
here disagrees with you,

7826
00:37:32,997 --> 00:37:34,673
mr. Blount.

7827
00:37:34,673 --> 00:37:36,394
>> andrew miles.

7828
00:37:36,394 --> 00:37:37,524
>> mayor: welcome, mr. Miles.

7829
00:37:37,524 --> 00:37:42,390
>> our last speaker.

7830
00:37:42,390 --> 00:37:45,022
>> good afternoon, y'all.

7831
00:37:45,022 --> 00:37:46,199
I'm here at this particular

7832
00:37:46,199 --> 00:37:48,530
point to talk to y'all about

7833
00:37:48,530 --> 00:37:50,010
property boundaries on the

7834
00:37:50,010 --> 00:37:52,705
northeast side of town.

7835
00:37:52,705 --> 00:37:54,872
the properties on the west,

7836
00:37:54,872 --> 00:37:57,293
east, south and north side of

7837
00:37:57,293 --> 00:37:59,381
all the properties in east

7838
00:37:59,381 --> 00:38:02,314
gainesville, it's all by about

7839
00:38:02,314 --> 00:38:02,314


7840
00:38:02,314 --> 00:38:06,629
five feet.

7841
00:38:06,629 --> 00:38:09,913
and on all the sides now, it's

7842
00:38:09,913 --> 00:38:09,913


7843
00:38:09,913 --> 00:38:12,183
started to affect the residents

7844
00:38:12,183 --> 00:38:12,183


7845
00:38:12,183 --> 00:38:13,390
because we got lot of new homes

7846
00:38:13,390 --> 00:38:13,390


7847
00:38:13,390 --> 00:38:15,130
that are being built on the eas

7848
00:38:15,130 --> 00:38:15,130
t

7849
00:38:15,130 --> 00:38:17,233
side now.

7850
00:38:17,233 --> 00:38:18,965
all before when people rur

7851
00:38:18,965 --> 00:38:21,028
building their most of it was

7852
00:38:21,028 --> 00:38:23,439
residents that was living there

7853
00:38:23,439 --> 00:38:23,439


7854
00:38:23,439 --> 00:38:24,943
before, and so they didn't arg

7855
00:38:24,943 --> 00:38:24,943
ue

7856
00:38:24,943 --> 00:38:26,438
with each other and they kind o

7857
00:38:26,438 --> 00:38:26,438
f

7858
00:38:26,438 --> 00:38:28,641
let people kept their fences up

7859
00:38:28,641 --> 00:38:28,641


7860
00:38:28,641 --> 00:38:29,708
and stuff like that.

7861
00:38:29,708 --> 00:38:31,908
but now there's a lot of new

7862
00:38:31,908 --> 00:38:32,806
properties that have been built

7863
00:38:32,806 --> 00:38:32,806


7864
00:38:32,806 --> 00:38:36,613
by homeowners and they're

7865
00:38:36,613 --> 00:38:38,151
measuring the property, and

7866
00:38:38,151 --> 00:38:39,549
they're finding that it's five

7867
00:38:39,549 --> 00:38:39,549


7868
00:38:39,549 --> 00:38:41,501
feet off on all sides all the

7869
00:38:41,501 --> 00:38:43,189
way around in fact my property

7870
00:38:43,189 --> 00:38:43,189


7871
00:38:43,189 --> 00:38:46,124
my front yard goes five feet

7872
00:38:46,124 --> 00:38:49,603
into a roadway so half of the

7873
00:38:49,603 --> 00:38:51,490
roadway is part of my property.

7874
00:38:51,490 --> 00:38:51,490


7875
00:38:51,490 --> 00:38:53,369
and I found out that in my

7876
00:38:53,369 --> 00:38:55,903
backyard where I had got a

7877
00:38:55,903 --> 00:38:59,374
permit to build a garage stora

7878
00:38:59,374 --> 00:38:59,374
ge

7879
00:38:59,374 --> 00:39:03,003
unit back there, that four fee

7880
00:39:03,003 --> 00:39:03,003
tf

7881
00:39:03,003 --> 00:39:03,984
that property does not belong t

7882
00:39:03,984 --> 00:39:03,984
o

7883
00:39:03,984 --> 00:39:03,984
me.

7884
00:39:03,984 --> 00:39:07,607
and so it's some problems that

7885
00:39:07,607 --> 00:39:07,607


7886
00:39:07,607 --> 00:39:09,150
are occurring right now and the

7887
00:39:09,150 --> 00:39:09,150
n

7888
00:39:09,150 --> 00:39:11,765
find out that property on the

7889
00:39:11,765 --> 00:39:13,754
other side of me is right up to

7890
00:39:13,754 --> 00:39:13,754


7891
00:39:13,754 --> 00:39:16,590
the sliding door glass of a

7892
00:39:16,590 --> 00:39:18,226
homeowner and their porch and

7893
00:39:18,226 --> 00:39:22,157
all is actually on my property.

7894
00:39:22,157 --> 00:39:22,157


7895
00:39:22,157 --> 00:39:23,459
so that really needs to be

7896
00:39:23,459 --> 00:39:26,036
looked at and see how we can

7897
00:39:26,036 --> 00:39:26,996
work some of this out because

7898
00:39:26,996 --> 00:39:28,737
it's going to be lot more

7899
00:39:28,737 --> 00:39:31,042
problems very soon about this

7900
00:39:31,042 --> 00:39:33,064
because in the pas

7901
00:39:33,064 --> 00:39:36,181
built the home in '82 after

7902
00:39:36,181 --> 00:39:37,578
realizing -- say something abo

7903
00:39:37,578 --> 00:39:37,578
ut

7904
00:39:37,578 --> 00:39:40,311
it, I came a couple years ago

7905
00:39:40,311 --> 00:39:41,381
about it and say something to

7906
00:39:41,381 --> 00:39:41,642
the commission.

7907
00:39:41,642 --> 00:39:42,520
I talked to the property

7908
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:43,948
appraiser office a couple times

7909
00:39:43,948 --> 00:39:43,948


7910
00:39:43,948 --> 00:39:46,581
and reported it and ask them

7911
00:39:46,581 --> 00:39:48,421
could they look at it.

7912
00:39:48,421 --> 00:39:49,521
they came out and did

7913
00:39:49,521 --> 00:39:50,424
measurements and now recently

7914
00:39:50,424 --> 00:39:51,184
they are doing lot of

7915
00:39:51,184 --> 00:39:53,177
measurements but it really nee

7916
00:39:53,177 --> 00:39:53,177
ds

7917
00:39:53,177 --> 00:39:54,200
to be looked into because it's

7918
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:54,200


7919
00:39:54,200 --> 00:39:56,955
going to be a lot of fights and

7920
00:39:56,955 --> 00:39:56,955


7921
00:39:56,955 --> 00:39:59,630
pushes about who owns what

7922
00:39:59,630 --> 00:40:01,076
property and I don't know if

7923
00:40:01,076 --> 00:40:02,369
you've been taking care of tha

7924
00:40:02,369 --> 00:40:02,369
t

7925
00:40:02,369 --> 00:40:03,936
property for 40, 50 years if

7926
00:40:03,936 --> 00:40:04,893
that going to give you the right

7927
00:40:04,893 --> 00:40:04,893


7928
00:40:04,893 --> 00:40:06,871
to still keep that property or

7929
00:40:06,871 --> 00:40:06,871


7930
00:40:06,871 --> 00:40:09,604
not, but I know this is about t

7931
00:40:09,604 --> 00:40:09,604
o

7932
00:40:09,604 --> 00:40:12,009
come up real soon because like

7933
00:40:12,009 --> 00:40:12,158
I

7934
00:40:12,158 --> 00:40:13,976
said four feet of my backyard

7935
00:40:13,976 --> 00:40:15,645
has been pointed out to me tha

7936
00:40:15,645 --> 00:40:15,645
t

7937
00:40:15,645 --> 00:40:17,613
it don't belong to me.

7938
00:40:17,613 --> 00:40:18,914
and according to when they com

7939
00:40:18,914 --> 00:40:18,914
e

7940
00:40:18,914 --> 00:40:20,702
out and shoot the property line

7941
00:40:20,702 --> 00:40:20,702


7942
00:40:20,702 --> 00:40:23,753
now, it's pretty much actual

7943
00:40:23,753 --> 00:40:24,620
what they're saying.

7944
00:40:24,620 --> 00:40:26,391
but when they shot it before,

7945
00:40:26,391 --> 00:40:28,456
when we got the permit, to bui

7946
00:40:28,456 --> 00:40:28,456
ld

7947
00:40:28,456 --> 00:40:30,418
a shed there they said

7948
00:40:30,418 --> 00:40:31,762
everything was aligned.

7949
00:40:31,762 --> 00:40:32,698
so it's going talqestamab a lot

7950
00:40:32,698 --> 00:40:32,698


7951
00:40:32,698 --> 00:40:33,755
of confusion.

7952
00:40:33,755 --> 00:40:35,032
I hope that y'all try to get

7953
00:40:35,032 --> 00:40:36,913
this addressed real soon instead

7954
00:40:36,913 --> 00:40:36,913


7955
00:40:36,913 --> 00:40:38,433
of later because a lot of new

7956
00:40:38,433 --> 00:40:40,508
homes been built out on the eas

7957
00:40:40,508 --> 00:40:40,508
t

7958
00:40:40,508 --> 00:40:41,438
side right now at this present

7959
00:40:41,438 --> 00:40:41,438


7960
00:40:41,438 --> 00:40:41,438
time.

7961
00:40:41,438 --> 00:40:50,846
new that was our last speaker,

7962
00:40:50,846 --> 00:40:50,846


7963
00:40:50,846 --> 00:40:52,124
mr. Mayor.

7964
00:40:52,124 --> 00:40:52,654
>> mayor: very good.

7965
00:40:52,654 --> 00:40:53,348
>> we are onto our discussion

7966
00:40:53,348 --> 00:40:54,260
items for the afternoon.

7967
00:40:54,260 --> 00:40:54,260
2026-92.

7968
00:40:54,260 --> 00:40:57,542
heartwood soundstage funding

7969
00:40:57,542 --> 00:40:58,520
with the recommendation the cit

7970
00:40:58,520 --> 00:40:58,520
y

7971
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,892
commission approve allocating

7972
00:41:01,892 --> 00:41:03,176
$55,000 from excess fund balance

7973
00:41:03,176 --> 00:41:03,176


7974
00:41:03,176 --> 00:41:04,094
in the general fund for

7975
00:41:04,094 --> 00:41:05,760
heartwood sound' stage funding

7976
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:05,760


7977
00:41:05,760 --> 00:41:07,342
request and provide direction o

7978
00:41:07,342 --> 00:41:09,482
npreferred option for

7979
00:41:09,482 --> 00:41:09,482
disbursement.

7980
00:41:09,482 --> 00:41:10,210
>> mayor: all right,

7981
00:41:10,210 --> 00:41:10,916
mr. Manager, did you want to --

7982
00:41:10,916 --> 00:41:10,916


7983
00:41:10,916 --> 00:41:13,142
>> thank you, mr. Mayor.

7984
00:41:13,142 --> 00:41:14,604
the march 5th meeting you all

7985
00:41:14,604 --> 00:41:16,670
asked for us to come back with

7986
00:41:16,670 --> 00:41:16,670


7987
00:41:16,670 --> 00:41:18,740
options for y'all to consider

7988
00:41:18,740 --> 00:41:23,675
about how to accommodate the

7989
00:41:23,675 --> 00:41:27,282
heartwood soundstage's request

7990
00:41:27,282 --> 00:41:27,282
.

7991
00:41:27,282 --> 00:41:28,981
we are recommending that if the

7992
00:41:28,981 --> 00:41:28,981


7993
00:41:28,981 --> 00:41:30,320
commission did decide to move

7994
00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,724
forward with, with funding, it

7995
00:41:33,724 --> 00:41:33,724


7996
00:41:33,724 --> 00:41:35,162
would come from excess fund

7997
00:41:35,162 --> 00:41:35,162
balance.

7998
00:41:35,162 --> 00:41:37,808
we provided three options for

7999
00:41:37,808 --> 00:41:42,808
your consideration, a loan

8000
00:41:42,808 --> 00:41:45,542
format, importantly we don't

8001
00:41:45,542 --> 00:41:49,174
have terms to discuss and that

8002
00:41:49,174 --> 00:41:49,174


8003
00:41:49,174 --> 00:41:51,013
may be something that y'all

8004
00:41:51,013 --> 00:41:53,108
could discuss if that was a

8005
00:41:53,108 --> 00:41:55,078
desired option.

8006
00:41:55,078 --> 00:41:56,418
in advance the grant with

8007
00:41:56,418 --> 00:41:59,016
required backup documentation

8008
00:41:59,016 --> 00:42:01,743
for expended funds and city

8009
00:42:01,743 --> 00:42:04,355
audit right to, audit right

8010
00:42:04,355 --> 00:42:05,592
languageige there.

8011
00:42:05,592 --> 00:42:08,877
that would be a similar to wha

8012
00:42:08,877 --> 00:42:08,877
t

8013
00:42:08,877 --> 00:42:11,671
the city commission did for the

8014
00:42:11,671 --> 00:42:11,671


8015
00:42:11,671 --> 00:42:13,105
hippodrome, and then a

8016
00:42:13,105 --> 00:42:15,302
reimbursable grant with required

8017
00:42:15,302 --> 00:42:15,302


8018
00:42:15,302 --> 00:42:16,736
backup documentation right to

8019
00:42:16,736 --> 00:42:19,131
audit requirements.

8020
00:42:19,131 --> 00:42:24,432
I think importantly, there are

8021
00:42:24,432 --> 00:42:24,432


8022
00:42:24,432 --> 00:42:27,241
the soundstage I think during

8023
00:42:27,241 --> 00:42:28,441
the last presentation gave you

8024
00:42:28,441 --> 00:42:28,441


8025
00:42:28,441 --> 00:42:31,311
some, some items by which I

8026
00:42:31,311 --> 00:42:33,350
think they have some outstanding

8027
00:42:33,350 --> 00:42:33,350


8028
00:42:33,350 --> 00:42:34,488
debt, some operational

8029
00:42:34,488 --> 00:42:34,488
expenses,.

8030
00:42:34,488 --> 00:42:40,537
I think for purposes of the

8031
00:42:40,537 --> 00:42:45,525
commission's decision we would

8032
00:42:45,525 --> 00:42:45,525


8033
00:42:45,525 --> 00:42:47,749
want to at least put it on the

8034
00:42:47,749 --> 00:42:47,749


8035
00:42:47,749 --> 00:42:50,006
record that we would need to v

8036
00:42:50,006 --> 00:42:50,006
et

8037
00:42:50,006 --> 00:42:54,803
any potential expenditures wit

8038
00:42:54,803 --> 00:42:54,803
h

8039
00:42:54,803 --> 00:42:57,200
in conjunction with financial

8040
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:57,968
services and the attorney's

8041
00:42:57,968 --> 00:43:00,939
office to make sure that any

8042
00:43:00,939 --> 00:43:04,109
expenses were sort of public

8043
00:43:04,109 --> 00:43:07,054
interest meaning if, if there

8044
00:43:07,054 --> 00:43:09,049
was old debt as a private

8045
00:43:09,049 --> 00:43:10,591
institution or a private

8046
00:43:10,591 --> 00:43:12,223
company, those things would nee

8047
00:43:12,223 --> 00:43:12,223
d

8048
00:43:12,223 --> 00:43:13,853
to be vetted to make sure that

8049
00:43:13,853 --> 00:43:13,853


8050
00:43:13,853 --> 00:43:15,229
we could actually expend publi

8051
00:43:15,229 --> 00:43:15,229
c

8052
00:43:15,229 --> 00:43:17,732
dollars on it versus ongoing

8053
00:43:17,732 --> 00:43:18,845
operational expenses, which

8054
00:43:18,845 --> 00:43:21,137
would be certainly I think a

8055
00:43:21,137 --> 00:43:23,835
more allowable use than paying

8056
00:43:23,835 --> 00:43:23,835


8057
00:43:23,835 --> 00:43:25,367
for old private debt if that

8058
00:43:25,367 --> 00:43:27,970
makes sense.

8059
00:43:27,970 --> 00:43:28,845
>> mayor: okay, thank you,

8060
00:43:28,845 --> 00:43:30,893
mr. Manager.

8061
00:43:30,893 --> 00:43:32,811
did anyone from heartwood want

8062
00:43:32,811 --> 00:43:32,811


8063
00:43:32,811 --> 00:43:34,315
to make any further

8064
00:43:34,315 --> 00:43:34,315
presentation?

8065
00:43:34,315 --> 00:43:37,209
or did we want to go straight t

8066
00:43:37,209 --> 00:43:37,209
o

8067
00:43:37,209 --> 00:43:37,209
discussion?

8068
00:43:37,209 --> 00:43:38,521
you don't have to.

8069
00:43:38,521 --> 00:43:39,879
I mean, we were all here last

8070
00:43:39,879 --> 00:43:39,879
time?

8071
00:43:39,879 --> 00:43:39,879
okay.

8072
00:43:39,879 --> 00:43:42,111
very good.

8073
00:43:42,111 --> 00:43:42,689
all right.

8074
00:43:42,689 --> 00:43:43,461
any thoughts from the

8075
00:43:43,461 --> 00:43:43,461
commission?

8076
00:43:43,461 --> 00:43:52,559
commissioner willits.

8077
00:43:52,559 --> 00:43:53,415
>> thank you, mr. Mayor.

8078
00:43:53,415 --> 00:43:57,537
I agree that if, that future

8079
00:43:57,537 --> 00:43:59,039
facing needs under the current

8080
00:43:59,039 --> 00:43:59,039


8081
00:43:59,039 --> 00:44:01,473
structure of the 501(c)3 that

8082
00:44:01,473 --> 00:44:03,929
is heartwood now makes the most

8083
00:44:03,929 --> 00:44:03,929


8084
00:44:03,929 --> 00:44:05,705
sense if that's what it is, it'

8085
00:44:05,705 --> 00:44:05,705
s

8086
00:44:05,705 --> 00:44:06,943
about what they need now to

8087
00:44:06,943 --> 00:44:09,447
continue being, you know,

8088
00:44:09,447 --> 00:44:09,447
successful.

8089
00:44:09,447 --> 00:44:13,749
but I also understand that the

8090
00:44:13,749 --> 00:44:13,749
ir

8091
00:44:13,749 --> 00:44:15,488
business model is their rapidly

8092
00:44:15,488 --> 00:44:15,488


8093
00:44:15,488 --> 00:44:17,113
switching from their for profi

8094
00:44:17,113 --> 00:44:17,113
t

8095
00:44:17,113 --> 00:44:20,719
to nonprofit structure and

8096
00:44:20,719 --> 00:44:22,267
rebuilding kind of rebuilding

8097
00:44:22,267 --> 00:44:24,057
the airplane as it's flying to

8098
00:44:24,057 --> 00:44:24,057


8099
00:44:24,057 --> 00:44:25,223
go off into the future

8100
00:44:25,223 --> 00:44:27,967
successful as possible as a, a

8101
00:44:27,967 --> 00:44:27,967
n

8102
00:44:27,967 --> 00:44:30,705
arts presenting institution in

8103
00:44:30,705 --> 00:44:30,705


8104
00:44:30,705 --> 00:44:30,705
downtown.

8105
00:44:30,705 --> 00:44:33,433
so some of this is a little

8106
00:44:33,433 --> 00:44:36,606
confusing to me just about lik

8107
00:44:36,606 --> 00:44:36,606
e

8108
00:44:36,606 --> 00:44:37,995
because I know the sport is --

8109
00:44:37,995 --> 00:44:37,995


8110
00:44:37,995 --> 00:44:39,274
it's kind of a general support

8111
00:44:39,274 --> 00:44:39,274


8112
00:44:39,274 --> 00:44:41,895
kind of a bridge to get to the

8113
00:44:41,895 --> 00:44:41,895


8114
00:44:41,895 --> 00:44:43,001
future, but at the same time I

8115
00:44:43,001 --> 00:44:43,001


8116
00:44:43,001 --> 00:44:44,477
do see that we have some

8117
00:44:44,477 --> 00:44:46,681
instances of, you know, some

8118
00:44:46,681 --> 00:44:49,285
transparency about, you know,

8119
00:44:49,285 --> 00:44:51,053
the expenses they have.

8120
00:44:51,053 --> 00:44:53,227
I don't feel good about retiring

8121
00:44:53,227 --> 00:44:53,227


8122
00:44:53,227 --> 00:44:53,227
debt.

8123
00:44:53,227 --> 00:44:55,993
I feel much better about,

8124
00:44:55,993 --> 00:44:59,331
know, basically paying people'

8125
00:44:59,331 --> 00:44:59,331
s

8126
00:44:59,331 --> 00:45:01,071
salaries who have been -- and

8127
00:45:01,071 --> 00:45:03,671
I'm still a little not sure tha

8128
00:45:03,671 --> 00:45:03,671
t

8129
00:45:03,671 --> 00:45:05,699
I will support this because of

8130
00:45:05,699 --> 00:45:05,699


8131
00:45:05,699 --> 00:45:08,671
this midyear, I don't know, it'

8132
00:45:08,671 --> 00:45:08,671
s

8133
00:45:08,671 --> 00:45:10,470
tough because it is a really

8134
00:45:10,470 --> 00:45:12,173
good chunk of entertainment

8135
00:45:12,173 --> 00:45:13,171
downtown, and it does make a l

8136
00:45:13,171 --> 00:45:13,171
ot

8137
00:45:13,171 --> 00:45:15,160
of sense I would prefer it be

8138
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:17,361
normal budget process with

8139
00:45:17,361 --> 00:45:21,581
changes to our other program

8140
00:45:21,581 --> 00:45:21,581
eligibility.

8141
00:45:21,581 --> 00:45:22,879
thank you, mr. Mayor.

8142
00:45:22,879 --> 00:45:23,393
>> mayor: thank you,

8143
00:45:23,393 --> 00:45:23,825
commissioner willits.

8144
00:45:23,825 --> 00:45:25,142
to be clear, this is a

8145
00:45:25,142 --> 00:45:31,025
nonprofit, and as they provide

8146
00:45:31,025 --> 00:45:31,025


8147
00:45:31,025 --> 00:45:35,095
a, an opportunity for a variety

8148
00:45:35,095 --> 00:45:35,095


8149
00:45:35,095 --> 00:45:40,905
of arts for the community, som

8150
00:45:40,905 --> 00:45:40,905
e

8151
00:45:40,905 --> 00:45:42,335
of it open to the community,

8152
00:45:42,335 --> 00:45:45,842
some of it ticketed talso is a

8153
00:45:45,842 --> 00:45:45,842
n

8154
00:45:45,842 --> 00:45:47,478
economic development issue, and

8155
00:45:47,478 --> 00:45:47,478


8156
00:45:47,478 --> 00:45:49,393
that's the way I look at this

8157
00:45:49,393 --> 00:45:49,393
100%.

8158
00:45:49,393 --> 00:45:52,177
there are businesses surrounding

8159
00:45:52,177 --> 00:45:52,177


8160
00:45:52,177 --> 00:45:54,149
it that are there because

8161
00:45:54,149 --> 00:45:56,013
heartwood is there.

8162
00:45:56,013 --> 00:46:00,091
and that is an important

8163
00:46:00,091 --> 00:46:01,389
consideration as we move forwa

8164
00:46:01,389 --> 00:46:01,389
rd

8165
00:46:01,389 --> 00:46:02,924
with this thought.

8166
00:46:02,924 --> 00:46:04,458
but commissioner book.

8167
00:46:04,458 --> 00:46:05,513
>> yeah, thank you, mr. Mayor.

8168
00:46:05,513 --> 00:46:05,513


8169
00:46:05,513 --> 00:46:07,731
so when we kind of spoke about

8170
00:46:07,731 --> 00:46:07,731


8171
00:46:07,731 --> 00:46:09,155
this at length on march 5th

8172
00:46:09,155 --> 00:46:11,047
almost a month ago, we were

8173
00:46:11,047 --> 00:46:12,078
talking -- what's the current

8174
00:46:12,078 --> 00:46:14,539
financial picture?

8175
00:46:14,539 --> 00:46:17,609
maybe -- this is a unique one.

8176
00:46:17,609 --> 00:46:17,609


8177
00:46:17,609 --> 00:46:18,284
I don't think in the time that

8178
00:46:18,284 --> 00:46:18,284


8179
00:46:18,284 --> 00:46:19,673
I've been on the commission tha

8180
00:46:19,673 --> 00:46:19,673
t

8181
00:46:19,673 --> 00:46:22,405
we've had a situation for a for

8182
00:46:22,405 --> 00:46:22,405


8183
00:46:22,405 --> 00:46:24,149
profit converted to a nonprofit

8184
00:46:24,149 --> 00:46:24,149


8185
00:46:24,149 --> 00:46:25,405
and then we provided them money

8186
00:46:25,405 --> 00:46:25,405


8187
00:46:25,405 --> 00:46:27,486
to get up and running.

8188
00:46:27,486 --> 00:46:29,031
if there is, I'm unfamiliar wit

8189
00:46:29,031 --> 00:46:29,031
h

8190
00:46:29,031 --> 00:46:31,719
it and so it's really difficult

8191
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:31,719


8192
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,427
to consider but I thought what'

8193
00:46:33,427 --> 00:46:33,427
s

8194
00:46:33,427 --> 00:46:34,485
the current financial picture

8195
00:46:34,485 --> 00:46:35,931
for heartwood?

8196
00:46:35,931 --> 00:46:37,455
we've had about a month to get

8197
00:46:37,455 --> 00:46:37,455


8198
00:46:37,455 --> 00:46:37,455
that.

8199
00:46:37,455 --> 00:46:39,108
I wonder if any of the heartwo

8200
00:46:39,108 --> 00:46:39,108
od

8201
00:46:39,108 --> 00:46:40,039
staff would be willing to

8202
00:46:40,039 --> 00:46:47,302
provide some updates.

8203
00:46:47,302 --> 00:46:48,602
>> thank you, my name is chels

8204
00:46:48,602 --> 00:46:48,602
y

8205
00:46:48,602 --> 00:46:50,151
karns I'm the executive directo

8206
00:46:50,151 --> 00:46:50,151
r

8207
00:46:50,151 --> 00:46:52,534
of heartwood sound stage.

8208
00:46:52,534 --> 00:47:00,580
so financial picture, I give t

8209
00:47:00,580 --> 00:47:00,580
he

8210
00:47:00,580 --> 00:47:02,652
full spiel last time but minor

8211
00:47:02,652 --> 00:47:02,652


8212
00:47:02,652 --> 00:47:03,747
updates since then.

8213
00:47:03,747 --> 00:47:05,112
just to repeat for the folks I

8214
00:47:05,112 --> 00:47:05,112
n

8215
00:47:05,112 --> 00:47:05,862
the audience who weren't here

8216
00:47:05,862 --> 00:47:06,604
last time, some of those

8217
00:47:06,604 --> 00:47:10,032
numbers, you know, we brought I

8218
00:47:10,032 --> 00:47:10,032
n

8219
00:47:10,032 --> 00:47:11,604
23,0 concert goers last year,

8220
00:47:11,604 --> 00:47:15,059
across 160 events, generated

8221
00:47:15,059 --> 00:47:16,902
$864,000 in ticket revenue.

8222
00:47:16,902 --> 00:47:18,107
there's a lot of studies that

8223
00:47:18,107 --> 00:47:20,124
show that performing arts

8224
00:47:20,124 --> 00:47:22,736
centers like ours, the amount o

8225
00:47:22,736 --> 00:47:22,736
f

8226
00:47:22,736 --> 00:47:23,944
economic activity that happens

8227
00:47:23,944 --> 00:47:23,944


8228
00:47:23,944 --> 00:47:25,344
around those events that's

8229
00:47:25,344 --> 00:47:26,640
people eating downtown, getting

8230
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:26,640


8231
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:28,978
hotel rooms, even the bands who

8232
00:47:28,978 --> 00:47:28,978


8233
00:47:28,978 --> 00:47:30,820
come in I shop their writers

8234
00:47:30,820 --> 00:47:32,583
which are often $1,000 writers

8235
00:47:32,583 --> 00:47:32,583


8236
00:47:32,583 --> 00:47:33,642
where I'm going to local, you

8237
00:47:33,642 --> 00:47:35,513
know, I just put in a $200 orde

8238
00:47:35,513 --> 00:47:35,513
r

8239
00:47:35,513 --> 00:47:37,380
at paper bag last week for

8240
00:47:37,380 --> 00:47:39,656
sandwiches for our, for a big

8241
00:47:39,656 --> 00:47:40,621
band that was touring through.

8242
00:47:40,621 --> 00:47:40,621
you

8243
00:47:40,621 --> 00:47:42,097
you know, so the economic

8244
00:47:42,097 --> 00:47:42,956
activity that happens around

8245
00:47:42,956 --> 00:47:44,824
these events is like five times

8246
00:47:44,824 --> 00:47:44,824


8247
00:47:44,824 --> 00:47:46,464
what we're generating internally

8248
00:47:46,464 --> 00:47:46,464


8249
00:47:46,464 --> 00:47:48,088
not to mention we're providing

8250
00:47:48,088 --> 00:47:48,088


8251
00:47:48,088 --> 00:47:51,738
jobs for 40-plus local

8252
00:47:51,738 --> 00:47:53,502
individuals who work in the art

8253
00:47:53,502 --> 00:47:53,502
s

8254
00:47:53,502 --> 00:47:54,904
that's steam jobs like sound

8255
00:47:54,904 --> 00:47:58,084
engineering and audio teching,

8256
00:47:58,084 --> 00:47:58,084


8257
00:47:58,084 --> 00:48:00,711
light design, and also

8258
00:48:00,711 --> 00:48:02,111
hospitality and event managemen

8259
00:48:02,111 --> 00:48:02,111
t

8260
00:48:02,111 --> 00:48:02,111
positions.

8261
00:48:02,111 --> 00:48:04,417
we have close relationships

8262
00:48:04,417 --> 00:48:05,979
with, I don't know how far to g

8263
00:48:05,979 --> 00:48:05,979
o

8264
00:48:05,979 --> 00:48:07,919
into the spiel but we have clo

8265
00:48:07,919 --> 00:48:07,919
se

8266
00:48:07,919 --> 00:48:10,168
relationships with uf, santa f

8267
00:48:10,168 --> 00:48:10,168
e

8268
00:48:10,168 --> 00:48:10,933
college, there is a university

8269
00:48:10,933 --> 00:48:10,933


8270
00:48:10,933 --> 00:48:13,616
of florida class base a

8271
00:48:13,616 --> 00:48:15,849
videoraphy class based on our

8272
00:48:15,849 --> 00:48:20,094
campuses, teaching viddography

8273
00:48:20,094 --> 00:48:20,094
.

8274
00:48:20,094 --> 00:48:23,164
they can go on to do live event

8275
00:48:23,164 --> 00:48:23,164


8276
00:48:23,164 --> 00:48:25,038
photography and videography, a

8277
00:48:25,038 --> 00:48:25,038
nd

8278
00:48:25,038 --> 00:48:27,296
you know financially one thing

8279
00:48:27,296 --> 00:48:28,076
I

8280
00:48:28,076 --> 00:48:28,976
said last time that I was here

8281
00:48:28,976 --> 00:48:28,976


8282
00:48:28,976 --> 00:48:32,048
and that I'll reiterate is tha

8283
00:48:32,048 --> 00:48:32,048
t

8284
00:48:32,048 --> 00:48:33,440
this isn't a story of a busines

8285
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:33,440
s

8286
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:35,608
that failed or a project that

8287
00:48:35,608 --> 00:48:36,508
you know failed to meet goals.

8288
00:48:36,508 --> 00:48:36,508


8289
00:48:36,508 --> 00:48:38,252
it's actually the opposite.

8290
00:48:38,252 --> 00:48:39,679
we've been incredibly

8291
00:48:39,679 --> 00:48:39,679
successful.

8292
00:48:39,679 --> 00:48:41,982
the people who founded this

8293
00:48:41,982 --> 00:48:43,818
institution four years ago nev

8294
00:48:43,818 --> 00:48:43,818
er

8295
00:48:43,818 --> 00:48:45,610
imagined that it would grow into

8296
00:48:45,610 --> 00:48:45,610


8297
00:48:45,610 --> 00:48:47,223
this thing that it is today.

8298
00:48:47,223 --> 00:48:48,092
it was a small listening room

8299
00:48:48,092 --> 00:48:50,530
for videography and for 100

8300
00:48:50,530 --> 00:48:51,896
people to sit and quietly liste

8301
00:48:51,896 --> 00:48:51,896
n

8302
00:48:51,896 --> 00:48:52,712
to sconsert and now it's a

8303
00:48:52,712 --> 00:48:53,926
festival and event space a

8304
00:48:53,926 --> 00:48:56,346
performing arts center, a campu

8305
00:48:56,346 --> 00:48:56,346
s  for

8306
00:48:56,346 --> 00:48:58,860
for learning, and a place that

8307
00:48:58,860 --> 00:48:58,860


8308
00:48:58,860 --> 00:49:01,344
employs again over 40 local

8309
00:49:01,344 --> 00:49:01,344
professionals.

8310
00:49:01,344 --> 00:49:07,349
so you know, with that growth

8311
00:49:07,349 --> 00:49:10,706
comes a need for you know,

8312
00:49:10,706 --> 00:49:12,022
better supplies, better

8313
00:49:12,022 --> 00:49:14,218
equipment, we're also hitting

8314
00:49:14,218 --> 00:49:15,704
our 10-year anniversary so a l

8315
00:49:15,704 --> 00:49:15,704
ot

8316
00:49:15,704 --> 00:49:16,980
of things were purchased 10

8317
00:49:16,980 --> 00:49:18,866
years ago and we need -- we put

8318
00:49:18,866 --> 00:49:18,866


8319
00:49:18,866 --> 00:49:19,500
$4,000 into lights.

8320
00:49:19,500 --> 00:49:20,778
we needed new lights on the top

8321
00:49:20,778 --> 00:49:20,778


8322
00:49:20,778 --> 00:49:22,899
of our stage so this request

8323
00:49:22,899 --> 00:49:23,800
comes from a place of we're

8324
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,822
really growing we're really

8325
00:49:25,822 --> 00:49:27,082
expanding we're doing our part

8326
00:49:27,082 --> 00:49:27,082


8327
00:49:27,082 --> 00:49:28,600
to bring people downtown to

8328
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:30,032
support arts and community,

8329
00:49:30,032 --> 00:49:31,247
community resilience through t

8330
00:49:31,247 --> 00:49:31,247
he

8331
00:49:31,247 --> 00:49:32,962
arts, and downtown gainesville

8332
00:49:32,962 --> 00:49:32,962
.

8333
00:49:32,962 --> 00:49:35,167
making it a place for people's

8334
00:49:35,167 --> 00:49:35,167


8335
00:49:35,167 --> 00:49:36,484
to feel safe and comfortable a

8336
00:49:36,484 --> 00:49:36,484
nd

8337
00:49:36,484 --> 00:49:38,771
bring their families.

8338
00:49:38,771 --> 00:49:39,637
and supporting the local

8339
00:49:39,637 --> 00:49:42,078
businesses around us with our

8340
00:49:42,078 --> 00:49:42,078
activities.

8341
00:49:42,078 --> 00:49:44,246
so this request is, you know, t

8342
00:49:44,246 --> 00:49:44,246
o

8343
00:49:44,246 --> 00:49:47,218
so we can continue doing that.

8344
00:49:47,218 --> 00:49:47,218


8345
00:49:47,218 --> 00:49:49,718
those are kind of a lot but I

8346
00:49:49,718 --> 00:49:50,452
don't know specifically if you

8347
00:49:50,452 --> 00:49:50,452


8348
00:49:50,452 --> 00:49:51,165
want a certain number let me

8349
00:49:51,165 --> 00:49:51,165
know.

8350
00:49:51,165 --> 00:49:53,800
>> yeah, I think we had -- than

8351
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:53,800
k

8352
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:54,592
you very much for that

8353
00:49:54,592 --> 00:49:54,592
synopsis.

8354
00:49:54,592 --> 00:49:56,860
I think that probably my thoug

8355
00:49:56,860 --> 00:49:56,860
ht

8356
00:49:56,860 --> 00:49:57,757
about optimism for

8357
00:49:57,757 --> 00:49:59,262
heartwoodicize an economic

8358
00:49:59,262 --> 00:50:00,929
driver clearly it is that,

8359
00:50:00,929 --> 00:50:03,462
mr. Mayor is that you have

8360
00:50:03,462 --> 00:50:04,795
somebody who's come in and the

8361
00:50:04,795 --> 00:50:04,795


8362
00:50:04,795 --> 00:50:06,431
executive director who has

8363
00:50:06,431 --> 00:50:08,161
extensive knowledge about how t

8364
00:50:08,161 --> 00:50:08,161
o

8365
00:50:08,161 --> 00:50:09,166
manage things just like this.

8366
00:50:09,166 --> 00:50:11,476
so that's why I feel good about

8367
00:50:11,476 --> 00:50:11,476


8368
00:50:11,476 --> 00:50:13,306
heartwood going forward.

8369
00:50:13,306 --> 00:50:14,432
what have we raised as a

8370
00:50:14,432 --> 00:50:14,432
nonprofit?

8371
00:50:14,432 --> 00:50:16,655
we've been a nonprofit for about

8372
00:50:16,655 --> 00:50:16,655


8373
00:50:16,655 --> 00:50:18,347
seven months?

8374
00:50:18,347 --> 00:50:20,368
>> yes, so let me pull those

8375
00:50:20,368 --> 00:50:31,862
numbers for you.

8376
00:50:31,862 --> 00:50:35,729
so yeah, we've raised over

8377
00:50:35,729 --> 00:50:37,134
$5,416 in friends of heartwood

8378
00:50:37,134 --> 00:50:37,134
s

8379
00:50:37,134 --> 00:50:38,034
donations that's our membershi

8380
00:50:38,034 --> 00:50:38,034
p

8381
00:50:38,034 --> 00:50:40,433
program since becoming a

8382
00:50:40,433 --> 00:50:40,433
nonprofit.

8383
00:50:40,433 --> 00:50:44,634
we've raised over 5,000 -- we

8384
00:50:44,634 --> 00:50:47,040
have over $5,000 incoming just

8385
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:47,040


8386
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:48,906
in the past few weeks of peopl

8387
00:50:48,906 --> 00:50:48,906
e

8388
00:50:48,906 --> 00:50:50,244
supporting us, supporting our

8389
00:50:50,244 --> 00:50:51,775
upcoming events, mostly like

8390
00:50:51,775 --> 00:50:53,116
sponsorship corporate

8391
00:50:53,116 --> 00:50:55,284
sponsorship type donations.

8392
00:50:55,284 --> 00:50:56,581
from our online giving platform

8393
00:50:56,581 --> 00:50:56,581


8394
00:50:56,581 --> 00:50:58,220
that we launched when we became

8395
00:50:58,220 --> 00:50:58,220


8396
00:50:58,220 --> 00:51:00,426
a nonprofit in september we've

8397
00:51:00,426 --> 00:51:00,426


8398
00:51:00,426 --> 00:51:03,229
raised $3,815 that's just from

8399
00:51:03,229 --> 00:51:03,485
a

8400
00:51:03,485 --> 00:51:06,036
donate now button on our web

8401
00:51:06,036 --> 00:51:06,036
site.

8402
00:51:06,036 --> 00:51:08,473
from event sponsors, this is a

8403
00:51:08,473 --> 00:51:08,473


8404
00:51:08,473 --> 00:51:10,396
lot of this came from our at th

8405
00:51:10,396 --> 00:51:10,396
e

8406
00:51:10,396 --> 00:51:11,496
end of the year tom petty

8407
00:51:11,496 --> 00:51:15,954
weekend last year, we had 25,785

8408
00:51:15,954 --> 00:51:15,954


8409
00:51:15,954 --> 00:51:17,174
corporate sponsors that was the

8410
00:51:17,174 --> 00:51:17,174


8411
00:51:17,174 --> 00:51:18,636
very tail end of last year for

8412
00:51:18,636 --> 00:51:18,636


8413
00:51:18,636 --> 00:51:20,573
tom petty, one of our signature

8414
00:51:20,573 --> 00:51:20,573


8415
00:51:20,573 --> 00:51:20,573
events.

8416
00:51:20,573 --> 00:51:26,447
we received over $4,000 actual

8417
00:51:26,447 --> 00:51:26,447
ly

8418
00:51:26,447 --> 00:51:28,285
$6,000 total in ira disbursemen

8419
00:51:28,285 --> 00:51:28,285
t

8420
00:51:28,285 --> 00:51:29,917
since becoming a nonprofit so

8421
00:51:29,917 --> 00:51:31,455
that's where you can use your

8422
00:51:31,455 --> 00:51:32,770
retirement funds there's a way

8423
00:51:32,770 --> 00:51:32,770


8424
00:51:32,770 --> 00:51:34,327
to kind of reduce your taxes o

8425
00:51:34,327 --> 00:51:34,327
n

8426
00:51:34,327 --> 00:51:36,757
your retirement plan by doing a

8427
00:51:36,757 --> 00:51:36,757
n

8428
00:51:36,757 --> 00:51:39,387
ira disbursement, so yeah,

8429
00:51:39,387 --> 00:51:41,022
$6,000 from that.

8430
00:51:41,022 --> 00:51:43,033
and then from a single donor, w

8431
00:51:43,033 --> 00:51:43,033
e

8432
00:51:43,033 --> 00:51:47,302
received $58,000 at the end of

8433
00:51:47,302 --> 00:51:47,302


8434
00:51:47,302 --> 00:51:50,177
last year, and this kind of ti

8435
00:51:50,177 --> 00:51:50,177
es

8436
00:51:50,177 --> 00:51:51,215
into you know that donor was o

8437
00:51:51,215 --> 00:51:51,215
ne

8438
00:51:51,215 --> 00:51:53,309
of the founders of heartwood.

8439
00:51:53,309 --> 00:51:54,637
that was kind of where we were

8440
00:51:54,637 --> 00:51:54,637


8441
00:51:54,637 --> 00:51:56,277
at with this one donor pitching

8442
00:51:56,277 --> 00:51:56,277


8443
00:51:56,277 --> 00:51:57,802
in heavenally to pick up the -

8444
00:51:57,802 --> 00:51:57,802
-

8445
00:51:57,802 --> 00:51:59,981
heavily to pick up on slack whe

8446
00:51:59,981 --> 00:51:59,981
n

8447
00:51:59,981 --> 00:52:02,417
we fell low on things.

8448
00:52:02,417 --> 00:52:04,853
this is since september when w

8449
00:52:04,853 --> 00:52:04,853
e

8450
00:52:04,853 --> 00:52:05,519
became a nonprofit.

8451
00:52:05,519 --> 00:52:07,687
that adds up in total to

8452
00:52:07,687 --> 00:52:07,687
$94,016.

8453
00:52:07,687 --> 00:52:10,426
so we're doing quite well with

8454
00:52:10,426 --> 00:52:10,426


8455
00:52:10,426 --> 00:52:10,426
sponsorships.

8456
00:52:10,426 --> 00:52:12,627
this is another reason that I

8457
00:52:12,627 --> 00:52:17,218
say I don't expect to be back  here n

8458
00:52:17,218 --> 00:52:17,541
here next year asking for this

8459
00:52:17,541 --> 00:52:17,541


8460
00:52:17,541 --> 00:52:18,506
kind of money, so -- really wel

8461
00:52:18,506 --> 00:52:18,506
l

8462
00:52:18,506 --> 00:52:20,937
it's just I've inherited some

8463
00:52:20,937 --> 00:52:23,711
problems, you know, some debt.

8464
00:52:23,711 --> 00:52:23,711


8465
00:52:23,711 --> 00:52:24,870
and to address the conversatio

8466
00:52:24,870 --> 00:52:24,870
n

8467
00:52:24,870 --> 00:52:26,105
about whether it should go

8468
00:52:26,105 --> 00:52:27,977
towards debt or future expenses,

8469
00:52:27,977 --> 00:52:27,977


8470
00:52:27,977 --> 00:52:30,815
either one would do the trick.

8471
00:52:30,815 --> 00:52:30,815


8472
00:52:30,815 --> 00:52:33,341
it's, I'm we're amenable to, y

8473
00:52:33,341 --> 00:52:33,341
ou

8474
00:52:33,341 --> 00:52:36,388
know, aplooiing the money where

8475
00:52:36,388 --> 00:52:36,388


8476
00:52:36,388 --> 00:52:38,250
it's, where it feels best

8477
00:52:38,250 --> 00:52:41,540
applies by the commission.

8478
00:52:41,540 --> 00:52:42,029
>> thank you.

8479
00:52:42,029 --> 00:52:43,925
the figures that you just

8480
00:52:43,925 --> 00:52:45,439
provided for what's being raise

8481
00:52:45,439 --> 00:52:45,439
d

8482
00:52:45,439 --> 00:52:47,489
is another source of optimism

8483
00:52:47,489 --> 00:52:48,259
going forward.

8484
00:52:48,259 --> 00:52:51,677
that for me, where I struggle I

8485
00:52:51,677 --> 00:52:51,677
s

8486
00:52:51,677 --> 00:52:53,737
just this morning we stopped

8487
00:52:53,737 --> 00:52:55,013
providing money internally at

8488
00:52:55,013 --> 00:52:57,597
the city for our own staff

8489
00:52:57,597 --> 00:52:58,576
because we said we're in the

8490
00:52:58,576 --> 00:53:00,861
middle of a budget process, and

8491
00:53:00,861 --> 00:53:00,861


8492
00:53:00,861 --> 00:53:02,311
you know, where we can't provi

8493
00:53:02,311 --> 00:53:02,311
de

8494
00:53:02,311 --> 00:53:04,813
money internally, I really

8495
00:53:04,813 --> 00:53:06,014
struggle even though the fundi

8496
00:53:06,014 --> 00:53:06,014
ng

8497
00:53:06,014 --> 00:53:07,589
sources are different, to

8498
00:53:07,589 --> 00:53:08,548
provide those monies

8499
00:53:08,548 --> 00:53:08,548
externally.

8500
00:53:08,548 --> 00:53:11,603
we have 30 frozen positions at

8501
00:53:11,603 --> 00:53:11,603


8502
00:53:11,603 --> 00:53:11,847
the city.

8503
00:53:11,847 --> 00:53:12,943
these are 30 people that we're

8504
00:53:12,943 --> 00:53:12,943


8505
00:53:12,943 --> 00:53:15,351
not hiring across various

8506
00:53:15,351 --> 00:53:18,423
divisions because we ourselves

8507
00:53:18,423 --> 00:53:18,423


8508
00:53:18,423 --> 00:53:19,725
are holding the line on some

8509
00:53:19,725 --> 00:53:22,377
fiscal restraint, and then I,

8510
00:53:22,377 --> 00:53:23,993
what worries me is we just got

8511
00:53:23,993 --> 00:53:23,993


8512
00:53:23,993 --> 00:53:25,731
another email this week from

8513
00:53:25,731 --> 00:53:27,503
another nonprofit that wants t

8514
00:53:27,503 --> 00:53:27,503
o

8515
00:53:27,503 --> 00:53:29,138
increase their funding.

8516
00:53:29,138 --> 00:53:30,435
they may be within one of our

8517
00:53:30,435 --> 00:53:32,073
existing processes, but they

8518
00:53:32,073 --> 00:53:34,082
want between 50 -- instead of

8519
00:53:34,082 --> 00:53:35,989
what they got is $65,000 they

8520
00:53:35,989 --> 00:53:36,783
want double that at least

8521
00:53:36,783 --> 00:53:37,809
they're hoping that we'll

8522
00:53:37,809 --> 00:53:38,621
provide double.

8523
00:53:38,621 --> 00:53:40,575
and it's another worthwhile

8524
00:53:40,575 --> 00:53:41,775
nonprofit organization.

8525
00:53:41,775 --> 00:53:43,863
so these are the things I

8526
00:53:43,863 --> 00:53:45,157
struggle with which is funding

8527
00:53:45,157 --> 00:53:45,157


8528
00:53:45,157 --> 00:53:46,720
internally that we have versus

8529
00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:46,720


8530
00:53:46,720 --> 00:53:48,353
funding externally even though

8531
00:53:48,353 --> 00:53:48,353


8532
00:53:48,353 --> 00:53:50,523
again I know the funding strea

8533
00:53:50,523 --> 00:53:50,523
ms

8534
00:53:50,523 --> 00:53:51,734
are different.

8535
00:53:51,734 --> 00:53:54,055
so thank you, mr. Mayor.

8536
00:53:54,055 --> 00:53:57,328
>> mayor: thank you,.

8537
00:53:57,328 --> 00:53:59,228
commissioner chestnut.

8538
00:53:59,228 --> 00:54:00,181
>> thank you, mr. Mayor.

8539
00:54:00,181 --> 00:54:01,129
if you could just very

8540
00:54:01,129 --> 00:54:05,305
succinctly tell us again what

8541
00:54:05,305 --> 00:54:08,773
the 55, what the 55,000 would b

8542
00:54:08,773 --> 00:54:08,773
e

8543
00:54:08,773 --> 00:54:10,207
used for.

8544
00:54:10,207 --> 00:54:12,441
is it your retired debt or

8545
00:54:12,441 --> 00:54:13,321
exactly what?

8546
00:54:13,321 --> 00:54:13,855
>> sure.

8547
00:54:13,855 --> 00:54:15,409
so initially I thought the bes

8548
00:54:15,409 --> 00:54:15,409
t

8549
00:54:15,409 --> 00:54:17,381
thing to use it for -- well

8550
00:54:17,381 --> 00:54:19,159
first I'll say where the numbe

8551
00:54:19,159 --> 00:54:19,159
r

8552
00:54:19,159 --> 00:54:19,623
55,000 came from.

8553
00:54:19,623 --> 00:54:22,325
so the past two years in a row

8554
00:54:22,325 --> 00:54:22,325
,

8555
00:54:22,325 --> 00:54:24,489
bate end of the budget year,

8556
00:54:24,489 --> 00:54:26,166
we've been $250,000 -- we've

8557
00:54:26,166 --> 00:54:28,439
needed $250,000 from our

8558
00:54:28,439 --> 00:54:31,931
founder'spitched in to keep the

8559
00:54:31,931 --> 00:54:31,931


8560
00:54:31,931 --> 00:54:32,973
thing going so I have no reason

8561
00:54:32,973 --> 00:54:32,973


8562
00:54:32,973 --> 00:54:34,263
to suspect that number is going

8563
00:54:34,263 --> 00:54:34,263


8564
00:54:34,263 --> 00:54:35,136
to be any different this year.

8565
00:54:35,136 --> 00:54:35,136


8566
00:54:35,136 --> 00:54:38,303
that number will be different

8567
00:54:38,303 --> 00:54:39,501
from this year moving forward

8568
00:54:39,501 --> 00:54:42,907
because we have reduced expensed

8569
00:54:42,907 --> 00:54:42,907


8570
00:54:42,907 --> 00:54:44,113
by $100,000.

8571
00:54:44,113 --> 00:54:46,079
I got the nature and culture

8572
00:54:46,079 --> 00:54:47,803
enhancement grantwhich I

8573
00:54:47,803 --> 00:54:48,381
believe we will get a grant

8574
00:54:48,381 --> 00:54:50,285
every year through the county's

8575
00:54:50,285 --> 00:54:50,285


8576
00:54:50,285 --> 00:54:51,883
ed tax so not local taxpayers

8577
00:54:51,883 --> 00:54:52,919
paying that money.

8578
00:54:52,919 --> 00:54:54,885
it's for events and services

8579
00:54:54,885 --> 00:54:56,317
like ours that bring in tourist

8580
00:54:56,317 --> 00:54:56,317
s

8581
00:54:56,317 --> 00:54:58,088
and fill hotel beds.

8582
00:54:58,088 --> 00:55:01,787
so we got $100,000 from that s

8583
00:55:01,787 --> 00:55:01,787
o

8584
00:55:01,787 --> 00:55:03,099
between the cost that I've

8585
00:55:03,099 --> 00:55:05,857
reduced about $100,000 and the

8586
00:55:05,857 --> 00:55:05,857


8587
00:55:05,857 --> 00:55:08,695
grant that we received of

8588
00:55:08,695 --> 00:55:09,899
100,000 that leaves me with the

8589
00:55:09,899 --> 00:55:09,899


8590
00:55:09,899 --> 00:55:10,719
55,000 that where suspect we're

8591
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:10,719


8592
00:55:10,719 --> 00:55:12,007
going to be short this year tha

8593
00:55:12,007 --> 00:55:12,007
t

8594
00:55:12,007 --> 00:55:13,639
we're tracking to be short on s

8595
00:55:13,639 --> 00:55:13,639
o

8596
00:55:13,639 --> 00:55:14,569
before we get to the part of

8597
00:55:14,569 --> 00:55:15,705
like closing doors or laying

8598
00:55:15,705 --> 00:55:18,041
people off or reducing services,

8599
00:55:18,041 --> 00:55:18,041


8600
00:55:18,041 --> 00:55:19,981
I came to you all to say can y

8601
00:55:19,981 --> 00:55:19,981
ou

8602
00:55:19,981 --> 00:55:21,585
help me with this 55,000.

8603
00:55:21,585 --> 00:55:23,309
and as far as what it will be

8604
00:55:23,309 --> 00:55:24,167
spent on?

8605
00:55:24,167 --> 00:55:27,051
I thought it made the most sen

8606
00:55:27,051 --> 00:55:27,051
se

8607
00:55:27,051 --> 00:55:29,359
to spend it on past debts eso

8608
00:55:29,359 --> 00:55:30,657
then our monthly expenses payin

8609
00:55:30,657 --> 00:55:30,657
g

8610
00:55:30,657 --> 00:55:32,621
off of those debts are reduced

8611
00:55:32,621 --> 00:55:32,621


8612
00:55:32,621 --> 00:55:34,332
and that sets us up month to

8613
00:55:34,332 --> 00:55:35,739
month to be saving money on the

8614
00:55:35,739 --> 00:55:36,293
z

8615
00:55:36,293 --> 00:55:37,925
those debts and interest but I

8616
00:55:37,925 --> 00:55:37,925


8617
00:55:37,925 --> 00:55:39,799
mean we have single shows comin

8618
00:55:39,799 --> 00:55:39,799
g

8619
00:55:39,799 --> 00:55:40,957
up where the artist fees are

8620
00:55:40,957 --> 00:55:41,763
about $50,000.

8621
00:55:41,763 --> 00:55:43,171
so like one, I could use this t

8622
00:55:43,171 --> 00:55:43,171
o

8623
00:55:43,171 --> 00:55:44,413
pay one artist fee and it would

8624
00:55:44,413 --> 00:55:44,413


8625
00:55:44,413 --> 00:55:46,277
save us $50,000 that I could u

8626
00:55:46,277 --> 00:55:46,277
se

8627
00:55:46,277 --> 00:55:48,575
to address other issues.

8628
00:55:48,575 --> 00:55:50,671
that's the kind of how the

8629
00:55:50,671 --> 00:55:52,981
business works, there's major

8630
00:55:52,981 --> 00:55:55,913
expenses, so so whether the

8631
00:55:55,913 --> 00:55:56,677
55,000 is spent on past

8632
00:55:56,677 --> 00:55:58,215
expenses, whether we applied

8633
00:55:58,215 --> 00:55:59,821
donor fees to past expenses and

8634
00:55:59,821 --> 00:55:59,821


8635
00:55:59,821 --> 00:56:01,723
applied this to labor for the

8636
00:56:01,723 --> 00:56:03,179
next calendar year, apply it t

8637
00:56:03,179 --> 00:56:03,179
o

8638
00:56:03,179 --> 00:56:05,537
artist fees or apply it to we

8639
00:56:05,537 --> 00:56:08,233
have some major -- I'll name a

8640
00:56:08,233 --> 00:56:08,233


8641
00:56:08,233 --> 00:56:09,777
few things I'd love to apply I

8642
00:56:09,777 --> 00:56:09,777
t

8643
00:56:09,777 --> 00:56:09,777
to.

8644
00:56:09,777 --> 00:56:11,419
I mentioned production upgrade

8645
00:56:11,419 --> 00:56:11,419
s

8646
00:56:11,419 --> 00:56:13,363
so 10 years old with most of o

8647
00:56:13,363 --> 00:56:13,363
ur

8648
00:56:13,363 --> 00:56:14,935
production equipment and you

8649
00:56:14,935 --> 00:56:15,891
know we need computer upgrades

8650
00:56:15,891 --> 00:56:15,891


8651
00:56:15,891 --> 00:56:18,433
software upgrades, systems

8652
00:56:18,433 --> 00:56:19,406
upgrades, we've already begun

8653
00:56:19,406 --> 00:56:19,406
that.

8654
00:56:19,406 --> 00:56:21,275
like replacing the lights like

8655
00:56:21,275 --> 00:56:21,275


8656
00:56:21,275 --> 00:56:22,945
we did last week but you know

8657
00:56:22,945 --> 00:56:24,813
lighting, seating, electrical

8658
00:56:24,813 --> 00:56:28,083
upgrades, our outdoor sound

8659
00:56:28,083 --> 00:56:29,517
system, and maintenance to our

8660
00:56:29,517 --> 00:56:29,517


8661
00:56:29,517 --> 00:56:32,122
current production equipment.

8662
00:56:32,122 --> 00:56:33,977
>> so it could be considered a

8663
00:56:33,977 --> 00:56:33,977


8664
00:56:33,977 --> 00:56:33,977
windfall.

8665
00:56:33,977 --> 00:56:36,459
>> a wind -- I'm not sure what

8666
00:56:36,459 --> 00:56:36,459


8667
00:56:36,459 --> 00:56:41,169
that means.

8668
00:56:41,169 --> 00:56:41,827
>> I don't know how to explain

8669
00:56:41,827 --> 00:56:41,827


8670
00:56:41,827 --> 00:56:41,827
it.

8671
00:56:41,827 --> 00:56:47,695
>> mayor: okay.

8672
00:56:47,695 --> 00:56:48,399
anything else?

8673
00:56:48,399 --> 00:56:48,399
okay.

8674
00:56:48,399 --> 00:56:49,927
anyone else?

8675
00:56:49,927 --> 00:56:50,369
all right.

8676
00:56:50,369 --> 00:56:51,670
is there any public comment on

8677
00:56:51,670 --> 00:56:51,670


8678
00:56:51,670 --> 00:56:52,667
this, madam clerk?

8679
00:56:52,667 --> 00:56:53,781
>> I do not have public comment

8680
00:56:53,781 --> 00:56:53,781


8681
00:56:53,781 --> 00:56:56,073
on this item.

8682
00:56:56,073 --> 00:56:57,009
>> mayor: okay.

8683
00:56:57,009 --> 00:56:57,853
would anyone like to make any

8684
00:56:57,853 --> 00:56:59,517
sort of recommendation?

8685
00:56:59,517 --> 00:57:01,011
commissioner duncan-walker.

8686
00:57:01,011 --> 00:57:02,105
>> thank you, mr. Mayor.

8687
00:57:02,105 --> 00:57:03,552
I just have some questions and

8688
00:57:03,552 --> 00:57:03,552


8689
00:57:03,552 --> 00:57:06,715
then I want to make the comments

8690
00:57:06,715 --> 00:57:06,715


8691
00:57:06,715 --> 00:57:08,074
because clearly I think so men

8692
00:57:08,074 --> 00:57:08,252
a

8693
00:57:08,252 --> 00:57:09,435
of us are appreciative of the

8694
00:57:09,435 --> 00:57:10,855
work that is done out of

8695
00:57:10,855 --> 00:57:11,894
heartwood and I know that when

8696
00:57:11,894 --> 00:57:11,894


8697
00:57:11,894 --> 00:57:14,731
we spoke, I had a subsequent

8698
00:57:14,731 --> 00:57:17,229
conversation with our arts

8699
00:57:17,229 --> 00:57:21,165
grants programs, prca.

8700
00:57:21,165 --> 00:57:23,397
and of course the question was

8701
00:57:23,397 --> 00:57:23,397


8702
00:57:23,397 --> 00:57:25,805
you know what is existing there

8703
00:57:25,805 --> 00:57:25,805


8704
00:57:25,805 --> 00:57:27,771
and what we found was

8705
00:57:27,771 --> 00:57:29,737
unfortunately that heartwood d

8706
00:57:29,737 --> 00:57:29,737
id

8707
00:57:29,737 --> 00:57:31,840
not fit into the neat boxes tha

8708
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:31,840
t

8709
00:57:31,840 --> 00:57:34,373
we currently have prescribed a

8710
00:57:34,373 --> 00:57:34,373
s

8711
00:57:34,373 --> 00:57:35,873
arts presenters and for me tha

8712
00:57:35,873 --> 00:57:35,873
t

8713
00:57:35,873 --> 00:57:36,920
was a bit of a challenge.

8714
00:57:36,920 --> 00:57:38,179
so what I want to say to my

8715
00:57:38,179 --> 00:57:40,225
colleagues here is we have I

8716
00:57:40,225 --> 00:57:42,989
think a case where we have an

8717
00:57:42,989 --> 00:57:44,255
arts presenter that is not

8718
00:57:44,255 --> 00:57:45,710
fitting within our definition o

8719
00:57:45,710 --> 00:57:45,710
f

8720
00:57:45,710 --> 00:57:48,761
arts presenter, and I'm

8721
00:57:48,761 --> 00:57:50,526
interested as a board to figur

8722
00:57:50,526 --> 00:57:50,526
e

8723
00:57:50,526 --> 00:57:52,397
out a way how we might be able

8724
00:57:52,397 --> 00:57:52,397


8725
00:57:52,397 --> 00:57:53,495
to reconcile that.

8726
00:57:53,495 --> 00:57:55,465
now I clearly understand that

8727
00:57:55,465 --> 00:57:57,127
those arts organizations that

8728
00:57:57,127 --> 00:57:58,859
we're currently funding out of

8729
00:57:58,859 --> 00:57:58,859


8730
00:57:58,859 --> 00:58:00,453
those buckets of monies fit

8731
00:58:00,453 --> 00:58:01,603
within a particular description

8732
00:58:01,603 --> 00:58:01,603


8733
00:58:01,603 --> 00:58:03,813
but I think that we have to be

8734
00:58:03,813 --> 00:58:03,813


8735
00:58:03,813 --> 00:58:07,121
mindful and we have to be

8736
00:58:07,121 --> 00:58:08,285
responsive when we know that

8737
00:58:08,285 --> 00:58:09,209
there are organizations that a

8738
00:58:09,209 --> 00:58:09,209
re

8739
00:58:09,209 --> 00:58:10,593
doing that thing that we just

8740
00:58:10,593 --> 00:58:12,879
haven't considered how we, we

8741
00:58:12,879 --> 00:58:15,723
are able to address that, okay

8742
00:58:15,723 --> 00:58:15,723


8743
00:58:15,723 --> 00:58:19,655
in terms of money so what we

8744
00:58:19,655 --> 00:58:23,833
hear is an organization that

8745
00:58:23,833 --> 00:58:25,803
needs some help.

8746
00:58:25,803 --> 00:58:27,233
and there are a lot of

8747
00:58:27,233 --> 00:58:31,607
organizations that need help.

8748
00:58:31,607 --> 00:58:33,039
so I'm struggling now with

8749
00:58:33,039 --> 00:58:36,677
making sure that there is a fai

8750
00:58:36,677 --> 00:58:36,677
r

8751
00:58:36,677 --> 00:58:43,727
way as we move forward that

8752
00:58:43,727 --> 00:58:44,905
we'll be able to do this in the

8753
00:58:44,905 --> 00:58:44,905


8754
00:58:44,905 --> 00:58:45,428
future because we're already

8755
00:58:45,428 --> 00:58:46,051
getting e-mails.

8756
00:58:46,051 --> 00:58:47,316
should we do this, there will

8757
00:58:47,316 --> 00:58:47,316
be

8758
00:58:47,316 --> 00:58:48,571
more and there will be the

8759
00:58:48,571 --> 00:58:50,287
question of well, the city

8760
00:58:50,287 --> 00:58:52,595
funded heartwood why won't you

8761
00:58:52,595 --> 00:58:52,595


8762
00:58:52,595 --> 00:58:53,355
fund us.

8763
00:58:53,355 --> 00:58:54,285
and nobody's going to be

8764
00:58:54,285 --> 00:58:54,285
concerned.

8765
00:58:54,285 --> 00:59:00,165
nobody's concerned with our

8766
00:59:00,165 --> 00:59:02,243
budget or bottom line is,

8767
00:59:02,243 --> 00:59:03,211
they're just going to say you

8768
00:59:03,211 --> 00:59:04,153
funded heartwood.

8769
00:59:04,153 --> 00:59:05,581
so for me it's a matter of

8770
00:59:05,581 --> 00:59:06,767
making sure our processes can

8771
00:59:06,767 --> 00:59:08,174
accommodate what the needs are

8772
00:59:08,174 --> 00:59:08,174


8773
00:59:08,174 --> 00:59:09,713
artistically here, and I want t

8774
00:59:09,713 --> 00:59:09,713
o

8775
00:59:09,713 --> 00:59:11,609
have another conversation and

8776
00:59:11,609 --> 00:59:12,811
intertain and she's not in her

8777
00:59:12,811 --> 00:59:12,811
e

8778
00:59:12,811 --> 00:59:14,580
so I don't want to do it right

8779
00:59:14,580 --> 00:59:14,580


8780
00:59:14,580 --> 00:59:16,465
now, but I think that I'm

8781
00:59:16,465 --> 00:59:18,331
interested in coming back to t

8782
00:59:18,331 --> 00:59:18,331
he

8783
00:59:18,331 --> 00:59:21,957
table with parks, rec and

8784
00:59:21,957 --> 00:59:23,253
cultural affairs or the cultura

8785
00:59:23,253 --> 00:59:23,253
l

8786
00:59:23,253 --> 00:59:25,753
affairs board, whichever entit

8787
00:59:25,753 --> 00:59:25,753
y

8788
00:59:25,753 --> 00:59:27,425
it is, it's our cultural affai

8789
00:59:27,425 --> 00:59:27,425
rs

8790
00:59:27,425 --> 00:59:29,446
department is who it is, to ha

8791
00:59:29,446 --> 00:59:29,446
ve

8792
00:59:29,446 --> 00:59:35,409
a conversation around what we

8793
00:59:35,409 --> 00:59:37,098
would need to do to address the

8794
00:59:37,098 --> 00:59:37,098


8795
00:59:37,098 --> 00:59:39,843
organization's like heartwood.

8796
00:59:39,843 --> 00:59:39,843


8797
00:59:39,843 --> 00:59:40,859
heartwood is not the only one

8798
00:59:40,859 --> 00:59:41,942
but it's the one that's in

8799
00:59:41,942 --> 00:59:43,507
downtown that's doing a large

8800
00:59:43,507 --> 00:59:46,352
volime of business -- volume o

8801
00:59:46,352 --> 00:59:46,352
f

8802
00:59:46,352 --> 00:59:47,443
business that is feeding into

8803
00:59:47,443 --> 00:59:48,647
the economic development piece

8804
00:59:48,647 --> 00:59:48,647


8805
00:59:48,647 --> 00:59:50,745
that is important and vital to

8806
00:59:50,745 --> 00:59:50,745


8807
00:59:50,745 --> 00:59:52,830
the city.

8808
00:59:52,830 --> 00:59:57,487
it's just a shame that we da wa

8809
00:59:57,487 --> 00:59:57,889
y to fund it right now

8810
00:59:57,889 --> 00:59:58,258
through the city.

8811
00:59:58,258 --> 01:00:00,296
and flow have to look -- now

8812
01:00:00,296 --> 01:00:02,689
have to look at doing this an

8813
01:00:02,689 --> 01:00:04,265
alternate way that will be a b

8814
01:00:04,265 --> 01:00:04,265
it

8815
01:00:04,265 --> 01:00:04,265
controversial.

8816
01:00:04,265 --> 01:00:06,331
so I want to say before I make

8817
01:00:06,331 --> 01:00:06,331


8818
01:00:06,331 --> 01:00:07,672
any comment about the current

8819
01:00:07,672 --> 01:00:09,667
request that I'd like for us t

8820
01:00:09,667 --> 01:00:09,667
o

8821
01:00:09,667 --> 01:00:11,304
look internally at our process

8822
01:00:11,304 --> 01:00:11,304


8823
01:00:11,304 --> 01:00:15,007
and ask the cultural affairs

8824
01:00:15,007 --> 01:00:16,443
council what they would need I

8825
01:00:16,443 --> 01:00:16,443
n

8826
01:00:16,443 --> 01:00:19,380
order to move this forward, a

8827
01:00:19,380 --> 01:00:25,038
definition or grant program that

8828
01:00:25,038 --> 01:00:25,038


8829
01:00:25,038 --> 01:00:29,390
would include organizations li

8830
01:00:29,390 --> 01:00:29,390
ke

8831
01:00:29,390 --> 01:00:32,226
what are the financial needs.

8832
01:00:32,226 --> 01:00:33,696
who do we need to reach out to?

8833
01:00:33,696 --> 01:00:33,696


8834
01:00:33,696 --> 01:00:38,064
I did want to ask you this.

8835
01:00:38,064 --> 01:00:39,772
have you in any way engaged wit

8836
01:00:39,772 --> 01:00:39,772
h

8837
01:00:39,772 --> 01:00:40,382
the gainesville community

8838
01:00:40,382 --> 01:00:40,382
foundation?

8839
01:00:40,382 --> 01:00:43,500
>> gainesville community

8840
01:00:43,500 --> 01:00:43,500
foundation?

8841
01:00:43,500 --> 01:00:44,712
>> yes.

8842
01:00:44,712 --> 01:00:45,892
>> is that the center for

8843
01:00:45,892 --> 01:00:48,388
nonprofit excellence?

8844
01:00:48,388 --> 01:00:49,710
>> they're a part of that.

8845
01:00:49,710 --> 01:00:50,322
>> okay.

8846
01:00:50,322 --> 01:00:51,142
>> the center for nonprofit

8847
01:00:51,142 --> 01:00:52,108
excellence is a part.

8848
01:00:52,108 --> 01:00:53,050
>> we have been in touch with

8849
01:00:53,050 --> 01:00:54,446
the center for nonprofit

8850
01:00:54,446 --> 01:00:54,446
excellence.

8851
01:00:54,446 --> 01:00:56,650
I don't know specifically about

8852
01:00:56,650 --> 01:00:56,650


8853
01:00:56,650 --> 01:00:57,854
the foundation that you speak o

8854
01:00:57,854 --> 01:00:57,854
f

8855
01:00:57,854 --> 01:00:57,854
though.

8856
01:00:57,854 --> 01:00:58,924
>> mm-hmm.

8857
01:00:58,924 --> 01:01:00,871
so what was the outcome of tha

8858
01:01:00,871 --> 01:01:00,871
t

8859
01:01:00,871 --> 01:01:00,871
interaction?

8860
01:01:00,871 --> 01:01:03,816
>> they've been supportive and

8861
01:01:03,816 --> 01:01:03,816


8862
01:01:03,816 --> 01:01:07,224
you know, they reached out

8863
01:01:07,224 --> 01:01:08,888
actually one of the leaders of

8864
01:01:08,888 --> 01:01:08,888


8865
01:01:08,888 --> 01:01:09,770
our organization reached out

8866
01:01:09,770 --> 01:01:10,724
right when we became a nonprof

8867
01:01:10,724 --> 01:01:10,724
it

8868
01:01:10,724 --> 01:01:12,294
and said hey, you know, we're

8869
01:01:12,294 --> 01:01:13,136
here if you need resources and

8870
01:01:13,136 --> 01:01:13,136


8871
01:01:13,136 --> 01:01:14,274
we reached out back to her to

8872
01:01:14,274 --> 01:01:15,368
connect her with our developme

8873
01:01:15,368 --> 01:01:15,368
nt

8874
01:01:15,368 --> 01:01:17,232
director when we hired him, so

8875
01:01:17,232 --> 01:01:17,232


8876
01:01:17,232 --> 01:01:18,534
we've been in contact but there

8877
01:01:18,534 --> 01:01:18,534


8878
01:01:18,534 --> 01:01:20,174
has been no discussion of here'

8879
01:01:20,174 --> 01:01:20,174
s

8880
01:01:20,174 --> 01:01:21,506
some money we have for you or

8881
01:01:21,506 --> 01:01:23,710
anything like that.

8882
01:01:23,710 --> 01:01:24,914
>> mayor: so to be clear they'

8883
01:01:24,914 --> 01:01:24,914
re

8884
01:01:24,914 --> 01:01:28,416
no longer with the north centr

8885
01:01:28,416 --> 01:01:28,416
al

8886
01:01:28,416 --> 01:01:29,414
florida community foundation?

8887
01:01:29,414 --> 01:01:30,058
>> okay.

8888
01:01:30,058 --> 01:01:31,684
>> mayor: and their missionis

8889
01:01:31,684 --> 01:01:34,290
to help train nonprofits be goo

8890
01:01:34,290 --> 01:01:34,290
d

8891
01:01:34,290 --> 01:01:37,106
nonprofits --

8892
01:01:37,106 --> 01:01:37,564
>> correct I'm definitely

8893
01:01:37,564 --> 01:01:39,422
familiar with what the nonprof

8894
01:01:39,422 --> 01:01:39,422
it

8895
01:01:39,422 --> 01:01:42,470
center for nonprofit excellence

8896
01:01:42,470 --> 01:01:42,470


8897
01:01:42,470 --> 01:01:43,732
does but I also know that the

8898
01:01:43,732 --> 01:01:45,707
gainesville community foundation

8899
01:01:45,707 --> 01:01:45,707


8900
01:01:45,707 --> 01:01:46,762
has been a grant making

8901
01:01:46,762 --> 01:01:47,574
organization so I was wondering

8902
01:01:47,574 --> 01:01:47,574


8903
01:01:47,574 --> 01:01:49,802
if there was any conversation o

8904
01:01:49,802 --> 01:01:49,802
r

8905
01:01:49,802 --> 01:01:51,208
any movement in that way.

8906
01:01:51,208 --> 01:01:52,536
>> I'll write it down.

8907
01:01:52,536 --> 01:01:55,270
I'll definitely reach out.

8908
01:01:55,270 --> 01:01:58,543
>> I'll conclude for now.

8909
01:01:58,543 --> 01:01:59,040
>> mayor: thank you.

8910
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:02,506
commissioner ingle.

8911
01:02:02,506 --> 01:02:04,075
>> so I was not present for the

8912
01:02:04,075 --> 01:02:04,075


8913
01:02:04,075 --> 01:02:09,430
previous discussion on this, b

8914
01:02:09,430 --> 01:02:09,430
ut

8915
01:02:09,430 --> 01:02:10,454
I was I can certainly see the

8916
01:02:10,454 --> 01:02:17,304
concerns about we strike a che

8917
01:02:17,304 --> 01:02:17,304
ck

8918
01:02:17,304 --> 01:02:18,802
when the first nonprofit comes

8919
01:02:18,802 --> 01:02:18,802


8920
01:02:18,802 --> 01:02:20,025
and asks us for money.

8921
01:02:20,025 --> 01:02:20,796
there are certainly going to be

8922
01:02:20,796 --> 01:02:20,796


8923
01:02:20,796 --> 01:02:21,943
a lot of people asking for mon

8924
01:02:21,943 --> 01:02:21,943
ey

8925
01:02:21,943 --> 01:02:22,498
like this.

8926
01:02:22,498 --> 01:02:25,532
I will say heartwood to me, I

8927
01:02:25,532 --> 01:02:26,740
greatly enjoy the place.

8928
01:02:26,740 --> 01:02:31,281
it's -- but more than that, if

8929
01:02:31,281 --> 01:02:31,281


8930
01:02:31,281 --> 01:02:33,207
you remember the baird center

8931
01:02:33,207 --> 01:02:36,126
prior to heartwood, there was

8932
01:02:36,126 --> 01:02:37,584
nothing there.

8933
01:02:37,584 --> 01:02:39,824
I mean, there was a one bla

8934
01:02:39,824 --> 01:02:42,556
box theater and the old

8935
01:02:42,556 --> 01:02:43,652
crosstown was there.

8936
01:02:43,652 --> 01:02:45,603
but I'll say it was pretty muc

8937
01:02:45,603 --> 01:02:45,603
h

8938
01:02:45,603 --> 01:02:47,496
a derelict building so I reall

8939
01:02:47,496 --> 01:02:47,496
y

8940
01:02:47,496 --> 01:02:50,670
do think that this is an ancho

8941
01:02:50,670 --> 01:02:50,670
r

8942
01:02:50,670 --> 01:02:54,186
business that is keeping I mea

8943
01:02:54,186 --> 01:02:54,186
n

8944
01:02:54,186 --> 01:02:56,064
just another half dozen

8945
01:02:56,064 --> 01:02:57,560
businesses going and then just

8946
01:02:57,560 --> 01:02:57,560


8947
01:02:57,560 --> 01:03:02,172
in general adding an awful lot

8948
01:03:02,172 --> 01:03:02,172


8949
01:03:02,172 --> 01:03:05,052
to the economy of kind of south

8950
01:03:05,052 --> 01:03:05,052


8951
01:03:05,052 --> 01:03:06,712
main and it's been a kind of a

8952
01:03:06,712 --> 01:03:06,712
n

8953
01:03:06,712 --> 01:03:08,186
anchor that I feel has drawn l

8954
01:03:08,186 --> 01:03:08,186
ot

8955
01:03:08,186 --> 01:03:10,418
of things down that way.

8956
01:03:10,418 --> 01:03:12,182
it's kind of dove tailed very

8957
01:03:12,182 --> 01:03:14,585
nicely with depot park and

8958
01:03:14,585 --> 01:03:17,455
really turning that into a muc

8959
01:03:17,455 --> 01:03:17,455
h

8960
01:03:17,455 --> 01:03:18,970
different economic area than it

8961
01:03:18,970 --> 01:03:18,970


8962
01:03:18,970 --> 01:03:20,036
was prior to heartwood being

8963
01:03:20,036 --> 01:03:20,036
there.

8964
01:03:20,036 --> 01:03:25,335
I don't know the best way of

8965
01:03:25,335 --> 01:03:27,106
going about supporting them but

8966
01:03:27,106 --> 01:03:27,106


8967
01:03:27,106 --> 01:03:28,667
I know we've done plenty of

8968
01:03:28,667 --> 01:03:30,302
grants for other organizations

8969
01:03:30,302 --> 01:03:30,302


8970
01:03:30,302 --> 01:03:32,826
that were everything from

8971
01:03:32,826 --> 01:03:34,248
picking an area of town that we

8972
01:03:34,248 --> 01:03:34,248


8973
01:03:34,248 --> 01:03:35,476
want to put some money into mak

8974
01:03:35,476 --> 01:03:35,476
e

8975
01:03:35,476 --> 01:03:38,014
sure that their, there's options

8976
01:03:38,014 --> 01:03:38,014


8977
01:03:38,014 --> 01:03:39,730
there for businesses to get --

8978
01:03:39,730 --> 01:03:39,730


8979
01:03:39,730 --> 01:03:42,810
built up and facades of

8980
01:03:42,810 --> 01:03:44,024
buildings to get cleaned to

8981
01:03:44,024 --> 01:03:45,268
those types of things to helping

8982
01:03:45,268 --> 01:03:45,268


8983
01:03:45,268 --> 01:03:46,650
out the hippodrome.

8984
01:03:46,650 --> 01:03:48,166
so I would really like to find

8985
01:03:48,166 --> 01:03:48,166


8986
01:03:48,166 --> 01:03:49,162
some way to move forward with

8987
01:03:49,162 --> 01:03:49,162
this.

8988
01:03:49,162 --> 01:03:51,665
I think it's, it's important n

8989
01:03:51,665 --> 01:03:51,665
ot

8990
01:03:51,665 --> 01:03:53,104
only to heartwood but also to

8991
01:03:53,104 --> 01:03:53,104
a

8992
01:03:53,104 --> 01:03:54,048
lot of other businesses around

8993
01:03:54,048 --> 01:03:54,048


8994
01:03:54,048 --> 01:03:55,554
there and generally the economi

8995
01:03:55,554 --> 01:03:55,554
c

8996
01:03:55,554 --> 01:03:56,790
health of the area but whether

8997
01:03:56,790 --> 01:03:56,790


8998
01:03:56,790 --> 01:04:01,070
that looks like, like a low or

8999
01:04:01,070 --> 01:04:01,070


9000
01:04:01,070 --> 01:04:02,364
no interest loan, whether that

9001
01:04:02,364 --> 01:04:02,364


9002
01:04:02,364 --> 01:04:03,554
looks like a grant, whether tha

9003
01:04:03,554 --> 01:04:03,554
t

9004
01:04:03,554 --> 01:04:05,190
looks like whatever, I think

9005
01:04:05,190 --> 01:04:07,293
it's a very important driver f

9006
01:04:07,293 --> 01:04:07,293
or

9007
01:04:07,293 --> 01:04:11,180
the area that I think it would

9008
01:04:11,180 --> 01:04:11,180


9009
01:04:11,180 --> 01:04:12,778
be very detrimental if we let

9010
01:04:12,778 --> 01:04:12,778
fail.

9011
01:04:12,778 --> 01:04:16,084
more than that, like I also

9012
01:04:16,084 --> 01:04:19,786
think it is very unique in the

9013
01:04:19,786 --> 01:04:19,786


9014
01:04:19,786 --> 01:04:21,348
arts community in town that it's

9015
01:04:21,348 --> 01:04:21,348


9016
01:04:21,348 --> 01:04:24,418
one of the few kind of regiona

9017
01:04:24,418 --> 01:04:24,418
l

9018
01:04:24,418 --> 01:04:27,354
draws for music in the area.

9019
01:04:27,354 --> 01:04:28,694
you know it's not national act

9020
01:04:28,694 --> 01:04:28,694
s

9021
01:04:28,694 --> 01:04:31,098
but it's larger than local act

9022
01:04:31,098 --> 01:04:31,098
s,

9023
01:04:31,098 --> 01:04:35,066
and it really does pull in, it'

9024
01:04:35,066 --> 01:04:35,066
s

9025
01:04:35,066 --> 01:04:39,102
kind of well known I don't kno

9026
01:04:39,102 --> 01:04:39,102
w

9027
01:04:39,102 --> 01:04:40,106
what you would call it, second

9028
01:04:40,106 --> 01:04:40,106


9029
01:04:40,106 --> 01:04:41,856
tier stars or whatever, there

9030
01:04:41,856 --> 01:04:43,022
aren't quite national touring

9031
01:04:43,022 --> 01:04:44,178
acts but are that kind of level

9032
01:04:44,178 --> 01:04:44,178


9033
01:04:44,178 --> 01:04:45,642
that pulls a lot of people int

9034
01:04:45,642 --> 01:04:45,642
o

9035
01:04:45,642 --> 01:04:45,642
gainesville.

9036
01:04:45,642 --> 01:04:47,952
like I know a lot of people tha

9037
01:04:47,952 --> 01:04:47,952
t

9038
01:04:47,952 --> 01:04:49,044
are familiar with gainesville

9039
01:04:49,044 --> 01:04:50,010
because of heartwood.

9040
01:04:50,010 --> 01:04:51,513
they came here to see shows

9041
01:04:51,513 --> 01:04:51,513
there.

9042
01:04:51,513 --> 01:04:54,808
and that's why they're coming t

9043
01:04:54,808 --> 01:04:54,808
o

9044
01:04:54,808 --> 01:04:54,808
town.

9045
01:04:54,808 --> 01:04:58,488
so I don't know the best way t

9046
01:04:58,488 --> 01:04:58,488
o

9047
01:04:58,488 --> 01:04:59,806
move forward with it but I thi

9048
01:04:59,806 --> 01:04:59,806
nk

9049
01:04:59,806 --> 01:05:00,900
it's important we find some way

9050
01:05:00,900 --> 01:05:00,900


9051
01:05:00,900 --> 01:05:01,926
to move forward with it.

9052
01:05:01,926 --> 01:05:02,690
>> mayor: all right.

9053
01:05:02,690 --> 01:05:04,572
thank you, commissioner ingle.

9054
01:05:04,572 --> 01:05:04,572


9055
01:05:04,572 --> 01:05:05,708
commissional willits.

9056
01:05:05,708 --> 01:05:07,290
>> thank you, mr. Mayor.

9057
01:05:07,290 --> 01:05:08,814
you know, it's not lost on me

9058
01:05:08,814 --> 01:05:09,864
that about a block away we're

9059
01:05:09,864 --> 01:05:12,512
trying to sell a property, an

9060
01:05:12,512 --> 01:05:13,936
old fire station location.

9061
01:05:13,936 --> 01:05:15,842
$55,000 could be the

9062
01:05:15,842 --> 01:05:17,610
difference -- I mean a good

9063
01:05:17,610 --> 01:05:18,428
functioning business community

9064
01:05:18,428 --> 01:05:18,428


9065
01:05:18,428 --> 01:05:20,744
on south main street versus one

9066
01:05:20,744 --> 01:05:20,744


9067
01:05:20,744 --> 01:05:22,412
with a you know a big hole in

9068
01:05:22,412 --> 01:05:24,086
it, could be the difference in

9069
01:05:24,086 --> 01:05:24,086


9070
01:05:24,086 --> 01:05:25,152
how -- how much we sell that

9071
01:05:25,152 --> 01:05:26,280
property for.

9072
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:27,450
you know?

9073
01:05:27,450 --> 01:05:30,808
so that's, to me it's economic

9074
01:05:30,808 --> 01:05:30,808


9075
01:05:30,808 --> 01:05:32,188
development and arts.

9076
01:05:32,188 --> 01:05:33,292
these are the two things kind o

9077
01:05:33,292 --> 01:05:33,292
f

9078
01:05:33,292 --> 01:05:33,292
combined.

9079
01:05:33,292 --> 01:05:36,264
and so the fact that the count

9080
01:05:36,264 --> 01:05:36,264
y

9081
01:05:36,264 --> 01:05:37,888
tourism bed tax is being

9082
01:05:37,888 --> 01:05:38,993
supported that leads me more

9083
01:05:38,993 --> 01:05:40,510
towards hey this is the county

9084
01:05:40,510 --> 01:05:40,510


9085
01:05:40,510 --> 01:05:43,540
has done their part, can we do

9086
01:05:43,540 --> 01:05:43,540


9087
01:05:43,540 --> 01:05:45,734
part, and ms. Karns can you

9088
01:05:45,734 --> 01:05:47,042
remind me did the full county

9089
01:05:47,042 --> 01:05:48,192
commission have to vote on tha

9090
01:05:48,192 --> 01:05:48,192
t

9091
01:05:48,192 --> 01:05:48,192
grant?

9092
01:05:48,192 --> 01:05:50,426
does it go through them or is

9093
01:05:50,426 --> 01:05:50,426
it

9094
01:05:50,426 --> 01:05:52,008
part of a committee or an

9095
01:05:52,008 --> 01:05:54,212
administrative decision?

9096
01:05:54,212 --> 01:05:55,912
>> the alachua county arts

9097
01:05:55,912 --> 01:05:58,786
council I want to say decides on

9098
01:05:58,786 --> 01:05:58,786


9099
01:05:58,786 --> 01:06:00,150
the grant, and then they send

9100
01:06:00,150 --> 01:06:01,020
that to the county commissione

9101
01:06:01,020 --> 01:06:01,020
rs

9102
01:06:01,020 --> 01:06:02,652
to approve.

9103
01:06:02,652 --> 01:06:03,162
>> okay.

9104
01:06:03,162 --> 01:06:04,382
so in the end it is --

9105
01:06:04,382 --> 01:06:05,592
>> it was vetted both by the

9106
01:06:05,592 --> 01:06:06,622
council and by the commission.

9107
01:06:06,622 --> 01:06:06,622


9108
01:06:06,622 --> 01:06:08,768
>> okay.

9109
01:06:08,768 --> 01:06:09,624
county commission's kind of done

9110
01:06:09,624 --> 01:06:09,624


9111
01:06:09,624 --> 01:06:10,596
part of their part.

9112
01:06:10,596 --> 01:06:12,364
this leads me more towards --

9113
01:06:12,364 --> 01:06:13,962
I'm very in the middle.

9114
01:06:13,962 --> 01:06:14,658
I don't know.

9115
01:06:14,658 --> 01:06:16,434
because it is, it's so importa

9116
01:06:16,434 --> 01:06:16,434
nt

9117
01:06:16,434 --> 01:06:17,630
to the business development.

9118
01:06:17,630 --> 01:06:21,904
if this was ngcra in a different

9119
01:06:21,904 --> 01:06:21,904


9120
01:06:21,904 --> 01:06:25,148
way or in our arts programs mor

9121
01:06:25,148 --> 01:06:25,148
e

9122
01:06:25,148 --> 01:06:26,378
aligned out I would feel more

9123
01:06:26,378 --> 01:06:27,316
comfortable but I'm looking at

9124
01:06:27,316 --> 01:06:27,316


9125
01:06:27,316 --> 01:06:29,214
your calendar just through jul

9126
01:06:29,214 --> 01:06:29,214
y

9127
01:06:29,214 --> 01:06:30,412
and there's all kinds of stuff

9128
01:06:30,412 --> 01:06:30,412


9129
01:06:30,412 --> 01:06:31,146
on here.

9130
01:06:31,146 --> 01:06:33,719
all kinds of great stuff.

9131
01:06:33,719 --> 01:06:36,356
ani defranko and juvenile are

9132
01:06:36,356 --> 01:06:37,090
definitely national acts.

9133
01:06:37,090 --> 01:06:38,318
and rightly so some of the act

9134
01:06:38,318 --> 01:06:38,318
s

9135
01:06:38,318 --> 01:06:39,652
on here that I'm sure the

9136
01:06:39,652 --> 01:06:40,466
florida legislature does about

9137
01:06:40,466 --> 01:06:40,466


9138
01:06:40,466 --> 01:06:42,058
want to talk about.

9139
01:06:42,058 --> 01:06:43,752
blues society presents women I

9140
01:06:43,752 --> 01:06:43,752
n

9141
01:06:43,752 --> 01:06:45,792
blues showcase if we're allowed

9142
01:06:45,792 --> 01:06:45,792


9143
01:06:45,792 --> 01:06:47,798
to showcase women in music.

9144
01:06:47,798 --> 01:06:50,768
or black -- there is just whole

9145
01:06:50,768 --> 01:06:50,768


9146
01:06:50,768 --> 01:06:50,768
list.

9147
01:06:50,768 --> 01:06:53,326
I do it for my city festival I

9148
01:06:53,326 --> 01:06:53,326
n

9149
01:06:53,326 --> 01:06:54,500
master class these are things

9150
01:06:54,500 --> 01:06:55,502
people in the state legislature

9151
01:06:55,502 --> 01:06:55,502


9152
01:06:55,502 --> 01:06:56,472
probably don't want us to

9153
01:06:56,472 --> 01:06:58,240
participate, but we're free to

9154
01:06:58,240 --> 01:06:58,240


9155
01:06:58,240 --> 01:07:01,316
do it for now.

9156
01:07:01,316 --> 01:07:03,416
so I'm leaning more towards

9157
01:07:03,416 --> 01:07:05,716
let's find this 55,000 but in

9158
01:07:05,716 --> 01:07:07,015
the best I don't have a

9159
01:07:07,015 --> 01:07:09,986
preference on the format or

9160
01:07:09,986 --> 01:07:09,986
version.

9161
01:07:09,986 --> 01:07:12,846
a zero interest loan is where I

9162
01:07:12,846 --> 01:07:12,846


9163
01:07:12,846 --> 01:07:15,062
lean towards if we're capable o

9164
01:07:15,062 --> 01:07:15,062
f

9165
01:07:15,062 --> 01:07:15,490
doing that.

9166
01:07:15,490 --> 01:07:16,728
a zero interest loan.

9167
01:07:16,728 --> 01:07:19,906
that way they figure out what

9168
01:07:19,906 --> 01:07:20,900
they need to do, whether it's

9169
01:07:20,900 --> 01:07:22,102
pay off debt or whatever, and

9170
01:07:22,102 --> 01:07:25,634
they have less in their monthly

9171
01:07:25,634 --> 01:07:25,634


9172
01:07:25,634 --> 01:07:26,844
you know costs and they can pay

9173
01:07:26,844 --> 01:07:26,844


9174
01:07:26,844 --> 01:07:28,904
us back over a period of time.

9175
01:07:28,904 --> 01:07:28,904


9176
01:07:28,904 --> 01:07:30,708
city manager, I would need a

9177
01:07:30,708 --> 01:07:33,984
little more guidance on -- I

9178
01:07:33,984 --> 01:07:34,844
know loans are not impossible.

9179
01:07:34,844 --> 01:07:34,844


9180
01:07:34,844 --> 01:07:37,382
we do it in certain formats, b

9181
01:07:37,382 --> 01:07:37,382
ut

9182
01:07:37,382 --> 01:07:38,384
this is one where it's a littl

9183
01:07:38,384 --> 01:07:38,384
e

9184
01:07:38,384 --> 01:07:39,712
out of my -- I was not prepped

9185
01:07:39,712 --> 01:07:39,712


9186
01:07:39,712 --> 01:07:42,261
for that portion of this today

9187
01:07:42,261 --> 01:07:42,261
,

9188
01:07:42,261 --> 01:07:43,456
so can you answer a little bit

9189
01:07:43,456 --> 01:07:43,456


9190
01:07:43,456 --> 01:07:47,058
about loans or somebody?

9191
01:07:47,058 --> 01:07:48,508
>> to be honest, this is kind o

9192
01:07:48,508 --> 01:07:48,508
f

9193
01:07:48,508 --> 01:07:52,864
new territory for the city wit

9194
01:07:52,864 --> 01:07:52,864
h

9195
01:07:52,864 --> 01:07:56,298
respect to this, the examples o

9196
01:07:56,298 --> 01:07:56,298
f

9197
01:07:56,298 --> 01:07:57,284
loans that I can give you that

9198
01:07:57,284 --> 01:07:57,284


9199
01:07:57,284 --> 01:08:01,804
we do do are the connect three

9200
01:08:01,804 --> 01:08:01,804


9201
01:08:01,804 --> 01:08:03,872
funds are typically structured

9202
01:08:03,872 --> 01:08:03,872


9203
01:08:03,872 --> 01:08:09,514
as a very low interest loan.

9204
01:08:09,514 --> 01:08:11,950
we have certain aspects of our

9205
01:08:11,950 --> 01:08:11,950


9206
01:08:11,950 --> 01:08:15,214
housing programs.

9207
01:08:15,214 --> 01:08:17,524
we are technically a forgivabl

9208
01:08:17,524 --> 01:08:17,524
e

9209
01:08:17,524 --> 01:08:19,827
loan with a sort of soft side

9210
01:08:19,827 --> 01:08:21,685
mortgage that gets forgiven yea

9211
01:08:21,685 --> 01:08:21,685
r

9212
01:08:21,685 --> 01:08:25,798
after year in a prorated sense

9213
01:08:25,798 --> 01:08:25,798
.

9214
01:08:25,798 --> 01:08:26,930
I think as I mentioned like we

9215
01:08:26,930 --> 01:08:26,930


9216
01:08:26,930 --> 01:08:28,762
don't have terms if for this f

9217
01:08:28,762 --> 01:08:28,762
or

9218
01:08:28,762 --> 01:08:30,633
the, for the loan.

9219
01:08:30,633 --> 01:08:31,840
we would look for the commissio

9220
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:31,840
n

9221
01:08:31,840 --> 01:08:34,108
if they wanted to be forgivabl

9222
01:08:34,108 --> 01:08:34,108
e

9223
01:08:34,108 --> 01:08:35,334
or zero interest.

9224
01:08:35,334 --> 01:08:36,972
like we could work with them a

9225
01:08:36,972 --> 01:08:36,972
nd

9226
01:08:36,972 --> 01:08:39,076
then come up with terms.

9227
01:08:39,076 --> 01:08:39,924
>> okay.

9228
01:08:39,924 --> 01:08:42,378
I mean, by all means, if we giv

9229
01:08:42,378 --> 01:08:42,378
e

9230
01:08:42,378 --> 01:08:43,180
$55,000 loan with zero interes

9231
01:08:43,180 --> 01:08:43,180
t

9232
01:08:43,180 --> 01:08:44,654
and forgivable and they're ali

9233
01:08:44,654 --> 01:08:44,654
ve

9234
01:08:44,654 --> 01:08:46,488
and kicking in three or four

9235
01:08:46,488 --> 01:08:47,478
years, great.

9236
01:08:47,478 --> 01:08:49,122
we've achieved, you know, the

9237
01:08:49,122 --> 01:08:49,122
goal.

9238
01:08:49,122 --> 01:08:50,955
so that's, I just ask that but

9239
01:08:50,955 --> 01:08:50,955


9240
01:08:50,955 --> 01:08:52,160
I'm leaning more towards let's

9241
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:52,160


9242
01:08:52,160 --> 01:08:54,200
figure this out and find it as

9243
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:54,200


9244
01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:55,292
an economic development piece

9245
01:08:55,292 --> 01:08:56,206
with the county already having

9246
01:08:56,206 --> 01:08:56,206


9247
01:08:56,206 --> 01:08:59,326
put in their portion and then

9248
01:08:59,326 --> 01:09:00,756
you know an opportunity.

9249
01:09:00,756 --> 01:09:01,862
it is out on the edge of what

9250
01:09:01,862 --> 01:09:02,530
I'm comfortable with.

9251
01:09:02,530 --> 01:09:05,598
it's a bit of leap of faith not

9252
01:09:05,598 --> 01:09:05,598


9253
01:09:05,598 --> 01:09:07,840
in you ms. Karns or the

9254
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:09,572
soundstage but a leap of faith

9255
01:09:09,572 --> 01:09:09,572


9256
01:09:09,572 --> 01:09:10,872
of what the community does and

9257
01:09:10,872 --> 01:09:10,872


9258
01:09:10,872 --> 01:09:13,746
doesn't support as an entire

9259
01:09:13,746 --> 01:09:13,746
whole.

9260
01:09:13,746 --> 01:09:15,174
I think that's all I got for

9261
01:09:15,174 --> 01:09:15,174
now.

9262
01:09:15,174 --> 01:09:17,022
>> mayor: thank you,

9263
01:09:17,022 --> 01:09:17,750
commissioner willits and let m

9264
01:09:17,750 --> 01:09:17,750
e

9265
01:09:17,750 --> 01:09:18,876
throw an idea out there and the

9266
01:09:18,876 --> 01:09:18,876
n

9267
01:09:18,876 --> 01:09:20,516
we'll go back around to the res

9268
01:09:20,516 --> 01:09:20,516
t

9269
01:09:20,516 --> 01:09:21,948
of the lights.

9270
01:09:21,948 --> 01:09:24,784
what if we thought of this and

9271
01:09:24,784 --> 01:09:25,452
I

9272
01:09:25,452 --> 01:09:26,356
am, I don't have a proposal

9273
01:09:26,356 --> 01:09:29,904
ready I'm just putting this ide

9274
01:09:29,904 --> 01:09:29,904
a

9275
01:09:29,904 --> 01:09:30,762
out there.

9276
01:09:30,762 --> 01:09:31,628
what if we went in the direction

9277
01:09:31,628 --> 01:09:31,628


9278
01:09:31,628 --> 01:09:34,828
of a loan very low interest loa

9279
01:09:34,828 --> 01:09:34,828
n

9280
01:09:34,828 --> 01:09:41,272
that we could then turn into a

9281
01:09:41,272 --> 01:09:41,272


9282
01:09:41,272 --> 01:09:44,010
revolving loan opportunity for

9283
01:09:44,010 --> 01:09:44,010


9284
01:09:44,010 --> 01:09:45,576
arts presenting organizations?

9285
01:09:45,576 --> 01:09:45,576


9286
01:09:45,576 --> 01:09:48,020
so as that is paid back, we the

9287
01:09:48,020 --> 01:09:48,020
n

9288
01:09:48,020 --> 01:09:50,512
make that available to other

9289
01:09:50,512 --> 01:09:53,180
arts presenting organizations on

9290
01:09:53,180 --> 01:09:56,052
same sort of basis.

9291
01:09:56,052 --> 01:09:57,592
just that's a thought.

9292
01:09:57,592 --> 01:09:59,750
that's a way for us to honestl

9293
01:09:59,750 --> 01:09:59,750
y

9294
01:09:59,750 --> 01:10:01,124
put our money where our mouth is

9295
01:10:01,124 --> 01:10:01,124


9296
01:10:01,124 --> 01:10:02,016
when we talk about supporting

9297
01:10:02,016 --> 01:10:03,962
the arts for arts presenting

9298
01:10:03,962 --> 01:10:06,698
organizations and see if maybe

9299
01:10:06,698 --> 01:10:06,698


9300
01:10:06,698 --> 01:10:09,696
there's an opportunity to use

9301
01:10:09,696 --> 01:10:11,908
that as seed money for other

9302
01:10:11,908 --> 01:10:14,506
arts presenting organizations.

9303
01:10:14,506 --> 01:10:14,506


9304
01:10:14,506 --> 01:10:15,374
then we could do that

9305
01:10:15,374 --> 01:10:15,374
geographically.

9306
01:10:15,374 --> 01:10:17,502
we could -- there are any numbe

9307
01:10:17,502 --> 01:10:17,502
r

9308
01:10:17,502 --> 01:10:19,225
of ways that we could think

9309
01:10:19,225 --> 01:10:20,673
about that.

9310
01:10:20,673 --> 01:10:22,778
consider that as we do this.

9311
01:10:22,778 --> 01:10:24,916
it would be good to have you

9312
01:10:24,916 --> 01:10:28,420
know, options a, b, and c for u

9313
01:10:28,420 --> 01:10:28,420
s

9314
01:10:28,420 --> 01:10:29,492
to choose from up here rather

9315
01:10:29,492 --> 01:10:33,724
than us trying to create a loa

9316
01:10:33,724 --> 01:10:33,724
n

9317
01:10:33,724 --> 01:10:34,822
package as we go.

9318
01:10:34,822 --> 01:10:37,859
but I would like to have that a

9319
01:10:37,859 --> 01:10:37,859
s

9320
01:10:37,859 --> 01:10:39,090
a, an option.

9321
01:10:39,090 --> 01:10:42,002
I would also like us to consider

9322
01:10:42,002 --> 01:10:42,002


9323
01:10:42,002 --> 01:10:43,681
that there are a bit of a

9324
01:10:43,681 --> 01:10:43,681
timeline.

9325
01:10:43,681 --> 01:10:45,636
I mean they know there is a

9326
01:10:45,636 --> 01:10:46,640
money crunch coming down the

9327
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:47,741
road in summer.

9328
01:10:47,741 --> 01:10:48,704
I mean they indicated to us

9329
01:10:48,704 --> 01:10:49,606
whether they were here last

9330
01:10:49,606 --> 01:10:49,606
time.

9331
01:10:49,606 --> 01:10:51,006
-- when they were here last time

9332
01:10:51,006 --> 01:10:51,006


9333
01:10:51,006 --> 01:10:52,840
so we need to keep that in min

9334
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:52,840
d

9335
01:10:52,840 --> 01:10:53,652
as well.

9336
01:10:53,652 --> 01:10:54,018
all right, commissioner

9337
01:10:54,018 --> 01:10:54,018
duncan-walker.

9338
01:10:54,018 --> 01:10:57,462
>> thank you, mr. Mayor.to ask

9339
01:10:57,462 --> 01:10:57,598
the city

9340
01:10:57,598 --> 01:11:02,666
manager, did the city provide,

9341
01:11:02,666 --> 01:11:02,666


9342
01:11:02,666 --> 01:11:05,882
was what we did with the reggae

9343
01:11:05,882 --> 01:11:05,882


9344
01:11:05,882 --> 01:11:07,497
shack, was that a loan through

9345
01:11:07,497 --> 01:11:07,497


9346
01:11:07,497 --> 01:11:07,497
gcra?

9347
01:11:07,497 --> 01:11:16,293
>> the related to the -- are y

9348
01:11:16,293 --> 01:11:16,293
ou

9349
01:11:16,293 --> 01:11:17,163
talking --

9350
01:11:17,163 --> 01:11:17,552
>> I know it particular

9351
01:11:17,552 --> 01:11:20,069
owner and there were ways the

9352
01:11:20,069 --> 01:11:22,333
city interfaced and worked wit

9353
01:11:22,333 --> 01:11:22,333
h

9354
01:11:22,333 --> 01:11:23,839
this person on I believe a few

9355
01:11:23,839 --> 01:11:23,839


9356
01:11:23,839 --> 01:11:24,973
different projects.

9357
01:11:24,973 --> 01:11:26,669
I don't recall whether it was,

9358
01:11:26,669 --> 01:11:26,807
I

9359
01:11:26,807 --> 01:11:28,987
do believe it was southern char

9360
01:11:28,987 --> 01:11:28,987
m

9361
01:11:28,987 --> 01:11:30,681
but I thought it was also regga

9362
01:11:30,681 --> 01:11:30,681
e

9363
01:11:30,681 --> 01:11:32,116
shack and another one of the

9364
01:11:32,116 --> 01:11:33,631
restaurants that they were

9365
01:11:33,631 --> 01:11:35,181
trying to do.

9366
01:11:35,181 --> 01:11:37,399
the twisted peacock I believe

9367
01:11:37,399 --> 01:11:39,809
>> that would've been outside o

9368
01:11:39,809 --> 01:11:39,809
f

9369
01:11:39,809 --> 01:11:40,787
cra area.

9370
01:11:40,787 --> 01:11:44,463
the twisted peacock.I believe w

9371
01:11:44,463 --> 01:11:45,547
ithout you know

9372
01:11:45,547 --> 01:11:46,329
without having to do some

9373
01:11:46,329 --> 01:11:49,615
research, I believe reggae sha

9374
01:11:49,615 --> 01:11:49,615
ck

9375
01:11:49,615 --> 01:11:52,967
receive     received a facade g

9376
01:11:52,967 --> 01:11:52,967
rant

9377
01:11:52,967 --> 01:11:54,173
for the front of the building

9378
01:11:54,173 --> 01:11:56,071
and then the southern charm was

9379
01:11:56,071 --> 01:11:56,071


9380
01:11:56,071 --> 01:11:58,887
a, you know, was a complete yo

9381
01:11:58,887 --> 01:11:58,887
u

9382
01:11:58,887 --> 01:12:01,049
know we built a restaurant

9383
01:12:01,049 --> 01:12:02,452
essentially for that.

9384
01:12:02,452 --> 01:12:03,573
but I don't think that it's an

9385
01:12:03,573 --> 01:12:03,573


9386
01:12:03,573 --> 01:12:05,747
equivalent in this case.

9387
01:12:05,747 --> 01:12:07,185
>> not a loan that the city

9388
01:12:07,185 --> 01:12:09,483
created for that.

9389
01:12:09,483 --> 01:12:10,561
>> correct.

9390
01:12:10,561 --> 01:12:12,507
I would, I just want -- the

9391
01:12:12,507 --> 01:12:12,507
opportunity.

9392
01:12:12,507 --> 01:12:16,087
I would suggest that the

9393
01:12:16,087 --> 01:12:17,752
commission separate creation o

9394
01:12:17,752 --> 01:12:17,752
f

9395
01:12:17,752 --> 01:12:22,271
a new loan program from this

9396
01:12:22,271 --> 01:12:24,384
discussion like because I think

9397
01:12:24,384 --> 01:12:24,384


9398
01:12:24,384 --> 01:12:26,969
if you all give direction that

9399
01:12:26,969 --> 01:12:26,969


9400
01:12:26,969 --> 01:12:27,881
that's something you want to d

9401
01:12:27,881 --> 01:12:27,881
o

9402
01:12:27,881 --> 01:12:30,045
then we would work that into t

9403
01:12:30,045 --> 01:12:30,045
he

9404
01:12:30,045 --> 01:12:31,371
budget but I think for all the

9405
01:12:31,371 --> 01:12:31,371


9406
01:12:31,371 --> 01:12:32,915
reasons that you know that have

9407
01:12:32,915 --> 01:12:32,915


9408
01:12:32,915 --> 01:12:35,015
been listed both in terms of

9409
01:12:35,015 --> 01:12:37,385
the, the timing for heartwood,

9410
01:12:37,385 --> 01:12:37,385


9411
01:12:37,385 --> 01:12:39,281
and then not coming up with

9412
01:12:39,281 --> 01:12:41,713
something on a daises separatin

9413
01:12:41,713 --> 01:12:41,713
g

9414
01:12:41,713 --> 01:12:43,241
the two -- dais, separating the

9415
01:12:43,241 --> 01:12:43,241


9416
01:12:43,241 --> 01:12:45,077
two, they may both have the

9417
01:12:45,077 --> 01:12:48,391
reasons would probably be the

9418
01:12:48,391 --> 01:12:51,924
best course in this case.

9419
01:12:51,924 --> 01:12:53,008
>> mm-hmm.

9420
01:12:53,008 --> 01:12:54,563
andrew, can I ask you this.

9421
01:12:54,563 --> 01:12:56,665
you see no reason it can't be

9422
01:12:56,665 --> 01:12:57,573
arts specific though, the

9423
01:12:57,573 --> 01:13:00,039
discussion you come back with,

9424
01:13:00,039 --> 01:13:00,039


9425
01:13:00,039 --> 01:13:00,039
correct?

9426
01:13:00,039 --> 01:13:01,306
>> from a loan program?

9427
01:13:01,306 --> 01:13:01,937
yeah, of course.

9428
01:13:01,937 --> 01:13:07,111
I think that would be the focus

9429
01:13:07,111 --> 01:13:07,111


9430
01:13:07,111 --> 01:13:09,213
based on y'all discussion.

9431
01:13:09,213 --> 01:13:09,725
>> okay.

9432
01:13:09,725 --> 01:13:10,849
thank you.

9433
01:13:10,849 --> 01:13:12,513
I conclude for now, mr. Mayor.

9434
01:13:12,513 --> 01:13:12,513


9435
01:13:12,513 --> 01:13:13,045
>> mayor: thank you,

9436
01:13:13,045 --> 01:13:13,045
commissioner.

9437
01:13:13,045 --> 01:13:15,207
so for all of you wondering why

9438
01:13:15,207 --> 01:13:15,207


9439
01:13:15,207 --> 01:13:16,853
didn't they just talk about thi

9440
01:13:16,853 --> 01:13:16,853
s

9441
01:13:16,853 --> 01:13:16,853
beforehand.

9442
01:13:16,853 --> 01:13:18,387
because we can't.

9443
01:13:18,387 --> 01:13:21,025
the sunshine law says if we're

9444
01:13:21,025 --> 01:13:21,025


9445
01:13:21,025 --> 01:13:22,259
going to talk about things tha

9446
01:13:22,259 --> 01:13:22,259
t

9447
01:13:22,259 --> 01:13:23,347
we're going to vote on, this is

9448
01:13:23,347 --> 01:13:23,347


9449
01:13:23,347 --> 01:13:25,661
the way that we do that.

9450
01:13:25,661 --> 01:13:28,599
and it is, it is uncomfortable

9451
01:13:28,599 --> 01:13:28,599


9452
01:13:28,599 --> 01:13:30,299
watching the sausage get made I

9453
01:13:30,299 --> 01:13:30,299
n

9454
01:13:30,299 --> 01:13:31,503
public but this is how it

9455
01:13:31,503 --> 01:13:31,503
works.

9456
01:13:31,503 --> 01:13:35,537
so commissioner eastman.

9457
01:13:35,537 --> 01:13:36,357
>> thank you, mr. Mayor.

9458
01:13:36,357 --> 01:13:37,455
I agree with everything that

9459
01:13:37,455 --> 01:13:38,603
commissioner ingle said from

9460
01:13:38,603 --> 01:13:38,603
before.

9461
01:13:38,603 --> 01:13:40,717
I think that losing heartwood

9462
01:13:40,717 --> 01:13:43,447
sound stage would be, I mean,

9463
01:13:43,447 --> 01:13:44,981
devastating for south main which

9464
01:13:44,981 --> 01:13:44,981


9465
01:13:44,981 --> 01:13:46,683
we have invested lot of money I

9466
01:13:46,683 --> 01:13:46,683
n

9467
01:13:46,683 --> 01:13:48,647
over time to we're seeing the

9468
01:13:48,647 --> 01:13:50,229
fruits of that and it is truly

9469
01:13:50,229 --> 01:13:50,229


9470
01:13:50,229 --> 01:13:52,854
an anchor business that is dow

9471
01:13:52,854 --> 01:13:52,854
n

9472
01:13:52,854 --> 01:13:52,854
there.

9473
01:13:52,854 --> 01:13:55,853
it would be a loss to our music

9474
01:13:55,853 --> 01:13:55,853


9475
01:13:55,853 --> 01:13:57,398
community which has lost a lot

9476
01:13:57,398 --> 01:13:57,398


9477
01:13:57,398 --> 01:13:59,363
of its medium sized venue over

9478
01:13:59,363 --> 01:13:59,363


9479
01:13:59,363 --> 01:14:00,161
the last couple of years.

9480
01:14:00,161 --> 01:14:01,797
there are very, very few place

9481
01:14:01,797 --> 01:14:01,797
s

9482
01:14:01,797 --> 01:14:03,977
that medium sized band or group

9483
01:14:03,977 --> 01:14:03,977


9484
01:14:03,977 --> 01:14:06,339
would be able to play in here

9485
01:14:06,339 --> 01:14:07,455
just in our entire city and

9486
01:14:07,455 --> 01:14:09,499
heartwood really serves that

9487
01:14:09,499 --> 01:14:11,462
purpose and it's why --

9488
01:14:11,462 --> 01:14:12,108
potentially the only one that

9489
01:14:12,108 --> 01:14:14,375
serves that purpose right now

9490
01:14:14,375 --> 01:14:16,043
within the city of gainesville

9491
01:14:16,043 --> 01:14:16,043
.

9492
01:14:16,043 --> 01:14:17,343
but I also I mean I agree

9493
01:14:17,343 --> 01:14:18,245
withition comer willits and som

9494
01:14:18,245 --> 01:14:18,245
e

9495
01:14:18,245 --> 01:14:18,899
of the other folks that have

9496
01:14:18,899 --> 01:14:20,661
spoken that said, you know, you

9497
01:14:20,661 --> 01:14:20,661


9498
01:14:20,661 --> 01:14:22,161
also -- because I spent the rest  of t

9499
01:14:22,161 --> 01:14:22,831
of this time up here on the

9500
01:14:22,831 --> 01:14:24,221
commission today arguing about

9501
01:14:24,221 --> 01:14:24,221


9502
01:14:24,221 --> 01:14:27,159
following processes and that

9503
01:14:27,159 --> 01:14:28,731
making one -- when you start

9504
01:14:28,731 --> 01:14:30,559
making one off decisions here,

9505
01:14:30,559 --> 01:14:30,559


9506
01:14:30,559 --> 01:14:32,931
that ends up bek-78ing      bec

9507
01:14:32,931 --> 01:14:32,931
oming

9508
01:14:32,931 --> 01:14:34,799
the process in and of itself.

9509
01:14:34,799 --> 01:14:36,897
if people come and ask you mon

9510
01:14:36,897 --> 01:14:36,897
ey

9511
01:14:36,897 --> 01:14:37,930
and you make an exception,

9512
01:14:37,930 --> 01:14:38,807
eventually there is not a rule,

9513
01:14:38,807 --> 01:14:38,807


9514
01:14:38,807 --> 01:14:38,807
right?

9515
01:14:38,807 --> 01:14:41,125
you're now the exception to the

9516
01:14:41,125 --> 01:14:41,125


9517
01:14:41,125 --> 01:14:41,125
rule.

9518
01:14:41,125 --> 01:14:43,968
and so yeah I've struggled wit

9519
01:14:43,968 --> 01:14:43,968
h

9520
01:14:43,968 --> 01:14:46,471
it in exactly the same way.

9521
01:14:46,471 --> 01:14:48,378
so we're now talking about the

9522
01:14:48,378 --> 01:14:48,378


9523
01:14:48,378 --> 01:14:51,640
needs of heartwood that have

9524
01:14:51,640 --> 01:14:52,839
been up until this point kind o

9525
01:14:52,839 --> 01:14:52,839
f

9526
01:14:52,839 --> 01:14:56,725
spoken about as a, some way tha

9527
01:14:56,725 --> 01:14:56,725
t

9528
01:14:56,725 --> 01:14:57,762
funding would go straight to

9529
01:14:57,762 --> 01:14:59,866
heartwood that would then, tha

9530
01:14:59,866 --> 01:14:59,866
t

9531
01:14:59,866 --> 01:15:00,850
would work in some way.

9532
01:15:00,850 --> 01:15:02,058
and I said at the last meeting

9533
01:15:02,058 --> 01:15:02,058


9534
01:15:02,058 --> 01:15:03,029
I'll say it this one that

9535
01:15:03,029 --> 01:15:04,095
anything like this I think it

9536
01:15:04,095 --> 01:15:05,926
has to be focused on what the

9537
01:15:05,926 --> 01:15:07,126
community gets from it, what t

9538
01:15:07,126 --> 01:15:07,126
he

9539
01:15:07,126 --> 01:15:08,966
benefits are, that would to me

9540
01:15:08,966 --> 01:15:08,966


9541
01:15:08,966 --> 01:15:11,095
mean open community events,

9542
01:15:11,095 --> 01:15:13,342
community gatherings that, tha

9543
01:15:13,342 --> 01:15:13,342
t

9544
01:15:13,342 --> 01:15:14,406
you guys are either doing

9545
01:15:14,406 --> 01:15:16,082
currently or that you would be

9546
01:15:16,082 --> 01:15:16,082


9547
01:15:16,082 --> 01:15:18,260
putting into place that, that

9548
01:15:18,260 --> 01:15:18,260
I

9549
01:15:18,260 --> 01:15:19,375
mean that is what our taxpayers

9550
01:15:19,375 --> 01:15:19,375


9551
01:15:19,375 --> 01:15:19,375
expect.

9552
01:15:19,375 --> 01:15:21,232
is they expect that our funding

9553
01:15:21,232 --> 01:15:21,232


9554
01:15:21,232 --> 01:15:23,803
is going to supporting overall

9555
01:15:23,803 --> 01:15:23,803


9556
01:15:23,803 --> 01:15:24,580
something that benefits the

9557
01:15:24,580 --> 01:15:26,148
community, but as someone had

9558
01:15:26,148 --> 01:15:30,313
mentioned a, just a regular, n

9559
01:15:30,313 --> 01:15:30,313
o

9560
01:15:30,313 --> 01:15:31,034
interest loan.

9561
01:15:31,034 --> 01:15:33,163
I don't know if that,and you

9562
01:15:33,163 --> 01:15:33,797
mentioned, I mean you had a

9563
01:15:33,797 --> 01:15:35,958
couple of -- trying to fill a

9564
01:15:35,958 --> 01:15:37,724
gap, right, but then too, you'r

9565
01:15:37,724 --> 01:15:37,724
e

9566
01:15:37,724 --> 01:15:39,758
trying to pay off old debts, a

9567
01:15:39,758 --> 01:15:39,758
nd

9568
01:15:39,758 --> 01:15:42,432
get rid of the, the interest

9569
01:15:42,432 --> 01:15:42,979
that's on that.

9570
01:15:42,979 --> 01:15:45,298
I mean, what -- I know just cam

9571
01:15:45,298 --> 01:15:45,298
e

9572
01:15:45,298 --> 01:15:47,401
up here today, but what are you

9573
01:15:47,401 --> 01:15:47,401
r

9574
01:15:47,401 --> 01:15:48,404
thoughts overall about it?

9575
01:15:48,404 --> 01:15:49,502
a no interest loan for that

9576
01:15:49,502 --> 01:15:49,502
amount?

9577
01:15:49,502 --> 01:15:51,841
>> I think any of those three

9578
01:15:51,841 --> 01:15:53,508
you said the loan, the advanced

9579
01:15:53,508 --> 01:15:53,508


9580
01:15:53,508 --> 01:15:54,945
grant, or the reimbursable

9581
01:15:54,945 --> 01:15:57,079
grant, we could work within the

9582
01:15:57,079 --> 01:15:57,079


9583
01:15:57,079 --> 01:15:58,286
measures of any of those three

9584
01:15:58,286 --> 01:15:58,286
,

9585
01:15:58,286 --> 01:16:00,095
and I would want as much as yo

9586
01:16:00,095 --> 01:16:00,095
u

9587
01:16:00,095 --> 01:16:01,784
all for it to be completely

9588
01:16:01,784 --> 01:16:03,254
transparent completely reported

9589
01:16:03,254 --> 01:16:03,254


9590
01:16:03,254 --> 01:16:05,221
on like I want no, you know, I

9591
01:16:05,221 --> 01:16:05,221
'm

9592
01:16:05,221 --> 01:16:06,580
not interested in negative press

9593
01:16:06,580 --> 01:16:06,580


9594
01:16:06,580 --> 01:16:07,088
for heartwood.

9595
01:16:07,088 --> 01:16:08,622
I want to be completely

9596
01:16:08,622 --> 01:16:09,442
transparent in everything we're

9597
01:16:09,442 --> 01:16:09,442


9598
01:16:09,442 --> 01:16:13,198
is happy to provide whatever

9599
01:16:13,198 --> 01:16:15,668
receipts are needed and you kno

9600
01:16:15,668 --> 01:16:15,668
w

9601
01:16:15,668 --> 01:16:16,867
to make sure that it's all don

9602
01:16:16,867 --> 01:16:16,867
e

9603
01:16:16,867 --> 01:16:18,236
above board and nothing's

9604
01:16:18,236 --> 01:16:18,236
seedy.

9605
01:16:18,236 --> 01:16:20,560
>> right but there is -- one's

9606
01:16:20,560 --> 01:16:20,769
a

9607
01:16:20,769 --> 01:16:22,820
forgivable loan which would be

9608
01:16:22,820 --> 01:16:22,820
I

9609
01:16:22,820 --> 01:16:23,852
mean similar to a grant in tha

9610
01:16:23,852 --> 01:16:23,852
t

9611
01:16:23,852 --> 01:16:24,944
we would give you the up front

9612
01:16:24,944 --> 01:16:24,944


9613
01:16:24,944 --> 01:16:26,874
money and then over time when

9614
01:16:26,874 --> 01:16:26,874
it

9615
01:16:26,874 --> 01:16:28,610
could be certain provisions are

9616
01:16:28,610 --> 01:16:28,610


9617
01:16:28,610 --> 01:16:30,587
met then that is, that gets

9618
01:16:30,587 --> 01:16:32,148
taken off of the total amount o

9619
01:16:32,148 --> 01:16:32,148
r

9620
01:16:32,148 --> 01:16:33,584
it could be just a grant that'

9621
01:16:33,584 --> 01:16:33,584
s

9622
01:16:33,584 --> 01:16:35,122
on the front end or I guess a

9623
01:16:35,122 --> 01:16:38,718
rerebimersable grant doesn't f

9624
01:16:38,718 --> 01:16:38,718
ix

9625
01:16:38,718 --> 01:16:39,964
the cash crunch in the

9626
01:16:39,964 --> 01:16:40,964
short-term because as you said

9627
01:16:40,964 --> 01:16:40,964


9628
01:16:40,964 --> 01:16:43,594
at the last one, the summer is

9629
01:16:43,594 --> 01:16:43,594


9630
01:16:43,594 --> 01:16:44,760
where the cash crunch is comin

9631
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:44,760
g

9632
01:16:44,760 --> 01:16:45,926
in but the other one would be a

9633
01:16:45,926 --> 01:16:45,926


9634
01:16:45,926 --> 01:16:48,665
no interest lane    loan.

9635
01:16:48,665 --> 01:16:50,900
cash eventually that would be

9636
01:16:50,900 --> 01:16:52,413
paid back over a point of time

9637
01:16:52,413 --> 01:16:52,413


9638
01:16:52,413 --> 01:16:53,746
so it's really a loan at that

9639
01:16:53,746 --> 01:16:53,746
point.

9640
01:16:53,746 --> 01:16:54,804
it's not a grant or some amoun

9641
01:16:54,804 --> 01:16:54,804
t

9642
01:16:54,804 --> 01:16:56,436
that is spent.

9643
01:16:56,436 --> 01:16:59,716
>> that's, less helpful than t

9644
01:16:59,716 --> 01:16:59,716
he

9645
01:16:59,716 --> 01:17:01,782
other options maybe a band aid

9646
01:17:01,782 --> 01:17:01,782


9647
01:17:01,782 --> 01:17:03,286
but then we owe you a money in

9648
01:17:03,286 --> 01:17:03,286


9649
01:17:03,286 --> 01:17:04,680
the year or two so it's just a

9650
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:04,680
s

9651
01:17:04,680 --> 01:17:07,816
we're kind of breaking even and

9652
01:17:07,816 --> 01:17:07,816


9653
01:17:07,816 --> 01:17:09,818
so yeah not -- I would favor t

9654
01:17:09,818 --> 01:17:09,818
he

9655
01:17:09,818 --> 01:17:13,087
options of a forgivable loan o

9656
01:17:13,087 --> 01:17:13,087
r

9657
01:17:13,087 --> 01:17:17,096
an advanced grant.

9658
01:17:17,096 --> 01:17:18,296
>> I mean, that is what I walke

9659
01:17:18,296 --> 01:17:18,296
d

9660
01:17:18,296 --> 01:17:19,166
into this discussion with the

9661
01:17:19,166 --> 01:17:21,834
idea of the with a forgivable

9662
01:17:21,834 --> 01:17:24,052
loan of some amount that would

9663
01:17:24,052 --> 01:17:24,052


9664
01:17:24,052 --> 01:17:28,636
be forgiven upon the contingen

9665
01:17:28,636 --> 01:17:28,636
t

9666
01:17:28,636 --> 01:17:30,436
upon having publicly accessible

9667
01:17:30,436 --> 01:17:30,436


9668
01:17:30,436 --> 01:17:31,576
community events throughout th

9669
01:17:31,576 --> 01:17:31,576
e

9670
01:17:31,576 --> 01:17:33,710
year at some number that would

9671
01:17:33,710 --> 01:17:33,710


9672
01:17:33,710 --> 01:17:36,014
be, the over three-year period

9673
01:17:36,014 --> 01:17:36,014


9674
01:17:36,014 --> 01:17:36,986
is what I had written down her

9675
01:17:36,986 --> 01:17:36,986
e

9676
01:17:36,986 --> 01:17:39,883
that would just to ensure that

9677
01:17:39,883 --> 01:17:39,883


9678
01:17:39,883 --> 01:17:41,216
which I think is the best thing

9679
01:17:41,216 --> 01:17:41,216


9680
01:17:41,216 --> 01:17:43,420
that solves the cash crunch on

9681
01:17:43,420 --> 01:17:43,420


9682
01:17:43,420 --> 01:17:44,782
the front end and then ensures

9683
01:17:44,782 --> 01:17:44,782


9684
01:17:44,782 --> 01:17:45,796
that there is some community

9685
01:17:45,796 --> 01:17:46,658
benefit to this on the back

9686
01:17:46,658 --> 01:17:46,658
end.

9687
01:17:46,658 --> 01:17:50,332
but does not solve the overall

9688
01:17:50,332 --> 01:17:50,332


9689
01:17:50,332 --> 01:17:52,540
question of, of how do you

9690
01:17:52,540 --> 01:17:53,506
ensure that this is done

9691
01:17:53,506 --> 01:17:53,506
fairly.

9692
01:17:53,506 --> 01:17:56,732
we just don't I mean if we're,

9693
01:17:56,732 --> 01:17:56,732


9694
01:17:56,732 --> 01:17:58,850
if we believe, if we believe

9695
01:17:58,850 --> 01:17:59,692
that this is something that

9696
01:17:59,692 --> 01:18:00,870
needs to happen immediately,

9697
01:18:00,870 --> 01:18:03,804
this has to happen before the

9698
01:18:03,804 --> 01:18:04,569
summer, then we don't have

9699
01:18:04,569 --> 01:18:06,016
time -- to the mayor's point I

9700
01:18:06,016 --> 01:18:06,016


9701
01:18:06,016 --> 01:18:06,982
like the idea of having

9702
01:18:06,982 --> 01:18:08,757
revolving loans, mr. Mayor,

9703
01:18:08,757 --> 01:18:10,517
making sure that we have that I

9704
01:18:10,517 --> 01:18:10,517
n

9705
01:18:10,517 --> 01:18:12,516
place, you know, to city

9706
01:18:12,516 --> 01:18:13,692
manager's point we just don't

9707
01:18:13,692 --> 01:18:14,528
have the time for that at the

9708
01:18:14,528 --> 01:18:14,528
moment.

9709
01:18:14,528 --> 01:18:16,758
but I do think that there is

9710
01:18:16,758 --> 01:18:18,193
some kind of a solution we cou

9711
01:18:18,193 --> 01:18:18,193
ld

9712
01:18:18,193 --> 01:18:18,689
find here.

9713
01:18:18,689 --> 01:18:19,553
thank you, mr. Mayor.

9714
01:18:19,553 --> 01:18:20,095
>> mayor: thank you,

9715
01:18:20,095 --> 01:18:20,525
commissioner eastman.

9716
01:18:20,525 --> 01:18:22,065
I do want to point out that

9717
01:18:22,065 --> 01:18:23,531
speaking of process, speaking to

9718
01:18:23,531 --> 01:18:23,531


9719
01:18:23,531 --> 01:18:26,436
process, we have off the top o

9720
01:18:26,436 --> 01:18:26,436
f

9721
01:18:26,436 --> 01:18:28,191
my head I can name three times

9722
01:18:28,191 --> 01:18:28,191


9723
01:18:28,191 --> 01:18:29,834
in the last few years when we'

9724
01:18:29,834 --> 01:18:29,834
ve

9725
01:18:29,834 --> 01:18:30,966
done almost exactly the same

9726
01:18:30,966 --> 01:18:33,888
thing for more money.  And

9727
01:18:33,888 --> 01:18:41,282
and that is got a $75,000 grant

9728
01:18:41,282 --> 01:18:41,282
,

9729
01:18:41,282 --> 01:18:43,324
came and made a proposal, we

9730
01:18:43,324 --> 01:18:44,883
said okay, here is your money.

9731
01:18:44,883 --> 01:18:44,883


9732
01:18:44,883 --> 01:18:46,903
the hippodrome didn't even make

9733
01:18:46,903 --> 01:18:46,903


9734
01:18:46,903 --> 01:18:49,546
a proposal just walked up and

9735
01:18:49,546 --> 01:18:51,959
said we need $250,000.

9736
01:18:51,959 --> 01:18:53,142
we said how about 150 I think

9737
01:18:53,142 --> 01:18:54,429
was the number.

9738
01:18:54,429 --> 01:18:55,437
and by the way, I voted for

9739
01:18:55,437 --> 01:18:56,396
every one of these and I'm

9740
01:18:56,396 --> 01:18:58,390
pretty sure that they were all

9741
01:18:58,390 --> 01:18:58,390


9742
01:18:58,390 --> 01:19:00,602
unanimous so I'm not casting a

9743
01:19:00,602 --> 01:19:00,602
ny

9744
01:19:00,602 --> 01:19:03,071
apirations -- aspersions here.

9745
01:19:03,071 --> 01:19:03,071


9746
01:19:03,071 --> 01:19:05,367
and last year we gave bread of

9747
01:19:05,367 --> 01:19:05,367


9748
01:19:05,367 --> 01:19:06,535
the m$100,000.

9749
01:19:06,535 --> 01:19:08,787
now that waserary specifically

9750
01:19:08,787 --> 01:19:08,787


9751
01:19:08,787 --> 01:19:11,115
to go feed -- not saying that

9752
01:19:11,115 --> 01:19:11,945
they're all the same.

9753
01:19:11,945 --> 01:19:13,042
they're not.

9754
01:19:13,042 --> 01:19:16,518
but I am saying that this is n

9755
01:19:16,518 --> 01:19:16,518
ot

9756
01:19:16,518 --> 01:19:18,993
out of the ordinary in the

9757
01:19:18,993 --> 01:19:23,452
greater scheme of things, and I

9758
01:19:23,452 --> 01:19:23,452


9759
01:19:23,452 --> 01:19:24,786
think the lesson is that we nee

9760
01:19:24,786 --> 01:19:24,786
d

9761
01:19:24,786 --> 01:19:25,926
to find a way to make it less

9762
01:19:25,926 --> 01:19:26,816
out of the ordinary and find a

9763
01:19:26,816 --> 01:19:26,816


9764
01:19:26,816 --> 01:19:30,858
way to create actual process s

9765
01:19:30,858 --> 01:19:30,858
o

9766
01:19:30,858 --> 01:19:32,560
that when people come say hey,

9767
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:32,560


9768
01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:34,211
we need money, we say well

9769
01:19:34,211 --> 01:19:36,928
there's a process for that ther

9770
01:19:36,928 --> 01:19:36,928
e

9771
01:19:36,928 --> 01:19:41,039
are right now processes that a

9772
01:19:41,039 --> 01:19:41,039
re

9773
01:19:41,039 --> 01:19:43,771
very much boxes that are built

9774
01:19:43,771 --> 01:19:43,771


9775
01:19:43,771 --> 01:19:45,467
and if you don't fit one -- if

9776
01:19:45,467 --> 01:19:45,467


9777
01:19:45,467 --> 01:19:47,484
you fit one of the boxes you

9778
01:19:47,484 --> 01:19:48,439
probably don't need the money I

9779
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:48,439
n

9780
01:19:48,439 --> 01:19:48,955
the first place.

9781
01:19:48,955 --> 01:19:49,962
but if you don't, then there I

9782
01:19:49,962 --> 01:19:49,962
s

9783
01:19:49,962 --> 01:19:51,687
really nowhere where we can say

9784
01:19:51,687 --> 01:19:51,687


9785
01:19:51,687 --> 01:19:53,852
here, go there and do this and

9786
01:19:53,852 --> 01:19:53,852


9787
01:19:53,852 --> 01:19:56,683
we'll work through it with you

9788
01:19:56,683 --> 01:19:56,683
.

9789
01:19:56,683 --> 01:19:57,871
so but it is not out of the

9790
01:19:57,871 --> 01:19:59,394
ordinary for this to happen a

9791
01:19:59,394 --> 01:20:01,557
thing that we are asked of and

9792
01:20:01,557 --> 01:20:01,557


9793
01:20:01,557 --> 01:20:03,189
that we respond affirmatively

9794
01:20:03,189 --> 01:20:03,189
to.

9795
01:20:03,189 --> 01:20:10,337
commissioner ingle.

9796
01:20:10,337 --> 01:20:12,344
>> I want to say I like the ide

9797
01:20:12,344 --> 01:20:12,344
a

9798
01:20:12,344 --> 01:20:13,208
that commissioner eastman

9799
01:20:13,208 --> 01:20:14,934
floated about having some actua

9800
01:20:14,934 --> 01:20:14,934
l

9801
01:20:14,934 --> 01:20:17,904
deliverables for the community

9802
01:20:17,904 --> 01:20:17,904


9803
01:20:17,904 --> 01:20:18,845
that this would be going towar

9804
01:20:18,845 --> 01:20:18,845
ds

9805
01:20:18,845 --> 01:20:20,044
so there was some accountable

9806
01:20:20,044 --> 01:20:22,102
for what that money was --

9807
01:20:22,102 --> 01:20:22,905
accountability for what that

9808
01:20:22,905 --> 01:20:23,823
money was for.

9809
01:20:23,823 --> 01:20:24,923
but then also I would really

9810
01:20:24,923 --> 01:20:27,353
like to take a look at what we

9811
01:20:27,353 --> 01:20:27,353


9812
01:20:27,353 --> 01:20:30,023
could do to establish a kind o

9813
01:20:30,023 --> 01:20:30,023
f

9814
01:20:30,023 --> 01:20:30,878
long-term program on making som

9815
01:20:30,878 --> 01:20:30,878
e

9816
01:20:30,878 --> 01:20:32,291
of these loans available both

9817
01:20:32,291 --> 01:20:36,792
for economic development and

9818
01:20:36,792 --> 01:20:41,531
arts programs and that, it's a

9819
01:20:41,531 --> 01:20:41,531


9820
01:20:41,531 --> 01:20:43,501
little bit of a cost on the up

9821
01:20:43,501 --> 01:20:43,501


9822
01:20:43,501 --> 01:20:45,371
front but it should be coming

9823
01:20:45,371 --> 01:20:47,339
back and about break even, the

9824
01:20:47,339 --> 01:20:47,339


9825
01:20:47,339 --> 01:20:48,405
type of thing I talked to a lot

9826
01:20:48,405 --> 01:20:48,405


9827
01:20:48,405 --> 01:20:49,379
of businesses and developers

9828
01:20:49,379 --> 01:20:50,881
that are like well I would rea

9829
01:20:50,881 --> 01:20:50,881
l

9830
01:20:50,881 --> 01:20:53,183
ay like to be able to do x but

9831
01:20:53,183 --> 01:20:53,183


9832
01:20:53,183 --> 01:20:55,481
money is 6.5% right now so it'

9833
01:20:55,481 --> 01:20:55,481
s

9834
01:20:55,481 --> 01:20:57,909
not even necessarily need, not

9835
01:20:57,909 --> 01:20:57,909


9836
01:20:57,909 --> 01:21:00,656
necessarily that everybody jus

9837
01:21:00,656 --> 01:21:00,656
t

9838
01:21:00,656 --> 01:21:01,475
needs a check but like the

9839
01:21:01,475 --> 01:21:04,115
ability to get some pay backabl

9840
01:21:04,115 --> 01:21:04,115
e

9841
01:21:04,115 --> 01:21:05,321
money at a reasonable price tha

9842
01:21:05,321 --> 01:21:05,321
t

9843
01:21:05,321 --> 01:21:07,189
could keep economic development

9844
01:21:07,189 --> 01:21:07,189


9845
01:21:07,189 --> 01:21:11,033
going in the town if interest

9846
01:21:11,033 --> 01:21:13,412
rates continue to explode and

9847
01:21:13,412 --> 01:21:14,701
the economy in general slows

9848
01:21:14,701 --> 01:21:14,701
down.

9849
01:21:14,701 --> 01:21:16,769
so I think it might be a timely

9850
01:21:16,769 --> 01:21:16,769


9851
01:21:16,769 --> 01:21:18,607
thing for us to take a look at

9852
01:21:18,607 --> 01:21:18,607


9853
01:21:18,607 --> 01:21:20,237
in general.

9854
01:21:20,237 --> 01:21:22,537
like I said as manager mentioned

9855
01:21:22,537 --> 01:21:22,537


9856
01:21:22,537 --> 01:21:23,339
I don't think you're going to

9857
01:21:23,339 --> 01:21:23,339
be

9858
01:21:23,339 --> 01:21:25,373
able to put that together to

9859
01:21:25,373 --> 01:21:27,026
address this, but I think those

9860
01:21:27,026 --> 01:21:27,026


9861
01:21:27,026 --> 01:21:29,273
two things in tandem are

9862
01:21:29,273 --> 01:21:30,175
something I can probably get

9863
01:21:30,175 --> 01:21:30,175
behind.

9864
01:21:30,175 --> 01:21:31,923
>> mayor: okay.

9865
01:21:31,923 --> 01:21:33,883
thank you, commissioner ingle.

9866
01:21:33,883 --> 01:21:33,883


9867
01:21:33,883 --> 01:21:35,527
commissioner chestnut.

9868
01:21:35,527 --> 01:21:36,465
>> okay.

9869
01:21:36,465 --> 01:21:39,123
my question was going to be on

9870
01:21:39,123 --> 01:21:39,123


9871
01:21:39,123 --> 01:21:39,123
process.

9872
01:21:39,123 --> 01:21:42,559
last year for the hippodrome.

9873
01:21:42,559 --> 01:21:44,434
the hippodrome was in dire

9874
01:21:44,434 --> 01:21:44,434
straits.

9875
01:21:44,434 --> 01:21:45,888
they couldn't meet their

9876
01:21:45,888 --> 01:21:45,888
payroll.

9877
01:21:45,888 --> 01:21:50,071
and we stepped in to help them.

9878
01:21:50,071 --> 01:21:50,071


9879
01:21:50,071 --> 01:21:56,105
bread of the mighty --  food

9880
01:21:56,105 --> 01:21:56,105
stamps.

9881
01:21:56,105 --> 01:21:57,871
we had to meet that need

9882
01:21:57,871 --> 01:22:01,147
immediately for our community.

9883
01:22:01,147 --> 01:22:01,147


9884
01:22:01,147 --> 01:22:02,043
trying to think of the other

9885
01:22:02,043 --> 01:22:02,043
one.

9886
01:22:02,043 --> 01:22:07,185
so that's the one thought.

9887
01:22:07,185 --> 01:22:10,689
then I do not like reimbursabl

9888
01:22:10,689 --> 01:22:10,689
e

9889
01:22:10,689 --> 01:22:12,461
loans or payments because that

9890
01:22:12,461 --> 01:22:12,461


9891
01:22:12,461 --> 01:22:14,693
really doesn't help the

9892
01:22:14,693 --> 01:22:15,657
organization you're trying to.

9893
01:22:15,657 --> 01:22:15,657


9894
01:22:15,657 --> 01:22:17,321
if they have to put up the money

9895
01:22:17,321 --> 01:22:17,321


9896
01:22:17,321 --> 01:22:20,869
first, then submit papers to y

9897
01:22:20,869 --> 01:22:20,869
ou

9898
01:22:20,869 --> 01:22:24,073
to be reimbursed it really

9899
01:22:24,073 --> 01:22:30,314
doesn't serve their purpose.

9900
01:22:30,314 --> 01:22:31,514
I don't think we can create the

9901
01:22:31,514 --> 01:22:31,514


9902
01:22:31,514 --> 01:22:33,474
program sitting up here today,

9903
01:22:33,474 --> 01:22:33,474


9904
01:22:33,474 --> 01:22:35,908
but just -- I'm just thinking

9905
01:22:35,908 --> 01:22:37,718
that of course we have the

9906
01:22:37,718 --> 01:22:39,034
tourist development council, and

9907
01:22:39,034 --> 01:22:39,034


9908
01:22:39,034 --> 01:22:39,968
I think that's probably where

9909
01:22:39,968 --> 01:22:41,648
you got the money from from the

9910
01:22:41,648 --> 01:22:41,648


9911
01:22:41,648 --> 01:22:42,986
county was the tourist

9912
01:22:42,986 --> 01:22:44,664
development council.

9913
01:22:44,664 --> 01:22:47,496
then we have the north central

9914
01:22:47,496 --> 01:22:47,496


9915
01:22:47,496 --> 01:22:52,198
florida -- community

9916
01:22:52,198 --> 01:22:52,198
foundation.

9917
01:22:52,198 --> 01:22:54,864
I'm trying to think if there I

9918
01:22:54,864 --> 01:22:54,864
s

9919
01:22:54,864 --> 01:22:56,109
some kind of program we could

9920
01:22:56,109 --> 01:22:57,938
create with them where we could

9921
01:22:57,938 --> 01:22:57,938


9922
01:22:57,938 --> 01:23:01,108
deposit funds and then let the

9923
01:23:01,108 --> 01:23:01,108
m

9924
01:23:01,108 --> 01:23:08,216
be the distributor.

9925
01:23:08,216 --> 01:23:09,348
I don't know I'm just having,

9926
01:23:09,348 --> 01:23:10,550
I'm just having a problem with

9927
01:23:10,550 --> 01:23:10,550


9928
01:23:10,550 --> 01:23:11,890
this one right here today.

9929
01:23:11,890 --> 01:23:13,483
I'm having a -- I'm having a

9930
01:23:13,483 --> 01:23:15,852
real problem with it.

9931
01:23:15,852 --> 01:23:17,716
maybe something we need to sen

9932
01:23:17,716 --> 01:23:17,716
d

9933
01:23:17,716 --> 01:23:18,868
back to the manager.

9934
01:23:18,868 --> 01:23:20,264
I thought we would -- with som

9935
01:23:20,264 --> 01:23:20,264
e

9936
01:23:20,264 --> 01:23:22,058
more direction, with some more

9937
01:23:22,058 --> 01:23:22,058


9938
01:23:22,058 --> 01:23:22,058
direction.

9939
01:23:22,058 --> 01:23:27,830
but in the end they really may

9940
01:23:27,830 --> 01:23:27,830


9941
01:23:27,830 --> 01:23:29,966
generate the $50,000 they need

9942
01:23:29,966 --> 01:23:29,966


9943
01:23:29,966 --> 01:23:32,302
anyway by summer.

9944
01:23:32,302 --> 01:23:36,416
she's gotten part of it.

9945
01:23:36,416 --> 01:23:38,910
so I'm just having a problem

9946
01:23:38,910 --> 01:23:41,777
with signing off on it today.

9947
01:23:41,777 --> 01:23:44,326
I did not support giving money

9948
01:23:44,326 --> 01:23:44,326


9949
01:23:44,326 --> 01:23:47,546
for an auditor this morning.

9950
01:23:47,546 --> 01:23:49,318
for our city program so I reall

9951
01:23:49,318 --> 01:23:49,318
y

9952
01:23:49,318 --> 01:23:51,048
have a problem trying to fund

9953
01:23:51,048 --> 01:23:52,889
this now.

9954
01:23:52,889 --> 01:23:54,326
so I probably would not vote t

9955
01:23:54,326 --> 01:23:54,326
o

9956
01:23:54,326 --> 01:23:58,266
fund it.

9957
01:23:58,266 --> 01:23:58,902
>> mayor: thank you,

9958
01:23:58,902 --> 01:23:59,394
commissioner chestnut.

9959
01:23:59,394 --> 01:24:02,044
commissioner book.

9960
01:24:02,044 --> 01:24:02,902
>> yes, mr. Mayor.

9961
01:24:02,902 --> 01:24:03,994
so I'm in a similar place,

9962
01:24:03,994 --> 01:24:03,994
right?

9963
01:24:03,994 --> 01:24:06,416
I want to stay consistent with

9964
01:24:06,416 --> 01:24:06,416


9965
01:24:06,416 --> 01:24:07,672
the way that we fund

9966
01:24:07,672 --> 01:24:09,446
organizations even those that

9967
01:24:09,446 --> 01:24:10,808
have great potential and are

9968
01:24:10,808 --> 01:24:12,068
greatly worthwhile, which is

9969
01:24:12,068 --> 01:24:13,172
this one.

9970
01:24:13,172 --> 01:24:14,408
but it's been a nonprofit for

9971
01:24:14,408 --> 01:24:16,182
seven months, and it ran a

9972
01:24:16,182 --> 01:24:17,746
deficit for several years, and

9973
01:24:17,746 --> 01:24:17,746


9974
01:24:17,746 --> 01:24:19,518
the only way I know that is

9975
01:24:19,518 --> 01:24:20,418
because their own staff and the

9976
01:24:20,418 --> 01:24:20,418


9977
01:24:20,418 --> 01:24:22,048
folks who've funded it told us

9978
01:24:22,048 --> 01:24:22,048


9979
01:24:22,048 --> 01:24:22,048
that.

9980
01:24:22,048 --> 01:24:24,556
that it run at deficit for

9981
01:24:24,556 --> 01:24:26,392
several years, and it's only

9982
01:24:26,392 --> 01:24:27,370
because they've moved to a

9983
01:24:27,370 --> 01:24:29,694
nonprofit model and you have

9984
01:24:29,694 --> 01:24:31,362
really proactive aggressive

9985
01:24:31,362 --> 01:24:32,357
staff that they're in a positio

9986
01:24:32,357 --> 01:24:32,357
n

9987
01:24:32,357 --> 01:24:34,236
that they're far more

9988
01:24:34,236 --> 01:24:36,038
financially solvent now.

9989
01:24:36,038 --> 01:24:37,714
so that's a testament to the

9990
01:24:37,714 --> 01:24:40,096
folks who are working there, a

9991
01:24:40,096 --> 01:24:40,096
nd

9992
01:24:40,096 --> 01:24:41,634
the director.

9993
01:24:41,634 --> 01:24:43,272
kind of on the back end,

9994
01:24:43,272 --> 01:24:44,488
commissioner duncan-walker was

9995
01:24:44,488 --> 01:24:44,488


9996
01:24:44,488 --> 01:24:45,790
talking about a process that's

9997
01:24:45,790 --> 01:24:45,790


9998
01:24:45,790 --> 01:24:47,482
more inclusive for arts and

9999
01:24:47,482 --> 01:24:48,246
cultural affairs.

10000
01:24:48,246 --> 01:24:49,082
I support that.

10001
01:24:49,082 --> 01:24:50,180
that might be on the back end

10002
01:24:50,180 --> 01:24:51,486
something that comes out.

10003
01:24:51,486 --> 01:24:52,394
I think you have a little more

10004
01:24:52,394 --> 01:24:52,394


10005
01:24:52,394 --> 01:24:53,822
knowledge than I do in that.

10006
01:24:53,822 --> 01:24:55,927
that we should in fact move

10007
01:24:55,927 --> 01:24:57,418
forward a process to research

10008
01:24:57,418 --> 01:24:57,418
that.

10009
01:24:57,418 --> 01:25:01,764
because I think is it mayor pr

10010
01:25:01,764 --> 01:25:01,764
o

10011
01:25:01,764 --> 01:25:07,354
tem is the papi grant that is

10012
01:25:07,354 --> 01:25:08,764
the one that is very narrowly

10013
01:25:08,764 --> 01:25:11,000
tayered     taylered.

10014
01:25:11,000 --> 01:25:12,630
well it probably shouldn't be s

10015
01:25:12,630 --> 01:25:12,630
o

10016
01:25:12,630 --> 01:25:14,510
narrowly tailored at this point

10017
01:25:14,510 --> 01:25:14,510


10018
01:25:14,510 --> 01:25:16,402
with the, with the plethora of

10019
01:25:16,402 --> 01:25:16,402


10020
01:25:16,402 --> 01:25:16,402
organizations.

10021
01:25:16,402 --> 01:25:19,611
>> you may eat those words.

10022
01:25:19,611 --> 01:25:19,611
[laughter]

10023
01:25:19,611 --> 01:25:21,190
>> I don't think so.

10024
01:25:21,190 --> 01:25:23,452
I won't.

10025
01:25:23,452 --> 01:25:25,584
I just think there should be a

10026
01:25:25,584 --> 01:25:25,584


10027
01:25:25,584 --> 01:25:26,682
second motion that comes out

10028
01:25:26,682 --> 01:25:29,955
that deals with allowing the

10029
01:25:29,955 --> 01:25:31,921
city to determine better ways

10030
01:25:31,921 --> 01:25:34,821
for potentially -- and it may

10031
01:25:34,821 --> 01:25:35,720
not even be that grant.

10032
01:25:35,720 --> 01:25:37,154
I'm pretty broad thinking in

10033
01:25:37,154 --> 01:25:37,561
this regard.

10034
01:25:37,561 --> 01:25:39,818
but I do think we need mike sur

10035
01:25:39,818 --> 01:25:39,818
e

10036
01:25:39,818 --> 01:25:41,164
that we're looking and -- make

10037
01:25:41,164 --> 01:25:41,164


10038
01:25:41,164 --> 01:25:42,011
sure that we're looking up and

10039
01:25:42,011 --> 01:25:42,011


10040
01:25:42,011 --> 01:25:43,239
staying up with times and

10041
01:25:43,239 --> 01:25:46,063
friends for the way the --

10042
01:25:46,063 --> 01:25:46,836
trends for the way those

10043
01:25:46,836 --> 01:25:47,885
organizations provide those

10044
01:25:47,885 --> 01:25:48,842
types of events and cultural

10045
01:25:48,842 --> 01:25:49,610
development to the city.

10046
01:25:49,610 --> 01:25:51,717
so that's second.

10047
01:25:51,717 --> 01:25:53,010
as it relates to this money

10048
01:25:53,010 --> 01:25:54,277
again I voted against providing

10049
01:25:54,277 --> 01:25:54,277


10050
01:25:54,277 --> 01:25:56,116
money to our own city this

10051
01:25:56,116 --> 01:25:56,116
morning.

10052
01:25:56,116 --> 01:25:57,649
and I know it's a different

10053
01:25:57,649 --> 01:25:59,485
funding source.

10054
01:25:59,485 --> 01:26:01,384
but there's no mechanism that

10055
01:26:01,384 --> 01:26:02,182
after seven months as a

10056
01:26:02,182 --> 01:26:03,255
nonprofit I could say that

10057
01:26:03,255 --> 01:26:05,625
that's enough runway to see tha

10058
01:26:05,625 --> 01:26:05,625
t

10059
01:26:05,625 --> 01:26:06,728
we've done everything, and the

10060
01:26:06,728 --> 01:26:06,728
re

10061
01:26:06,728 --> 01:26:09,229
are some other options to look

10062
01:26:09,229 --> 01:26:09,229


10063
01:26:09,229 --> 01:26:09,229
at.

10064
01:26:09,229 --> 01:26:10,761
it sounds to me like you

10065
01:26:10,761 --> 01:26:13,532
director have actually you're

10066
01:26:13,532 --> 01:26:14,537
uncovering quite a few options

10067
01:26:14,537 --> 01:26:14,537


10068
01:26:14,537 --> 01:26:15,731
and pursuing all those.

10069
01:26:15,731 --> 01:26:16,413
couple others have been

10070
01:26:16,413 --> 01:26:18,543
mentioned here.

10071
01:26:18,543 --> 01:26:20,544
surplus equipment, and I think

10072
01:26:20,544 --> 01:26:20,544


10073
01:26:20,544 --> 01:26:21,985
we should see what happens in

10074
01:26:21,985 --> 01:26:23,672
the coming months, and perhaps

10075
01:26:23,672 --> 01:26:23,672


10076
01:26:23,672 --> 01:26:27,615
after a year as a nonprofit tha

10077
01:26:27,615 --> 01:26:27,615
t

10078
01:26:27,615 --> 01:26:29,011
puts us on equal footing with

10079
01:26:29,011 --> 01:26:31,483
other nonprofits asking us for

10080
01:26:31,483 --> 01:26:31,483


10081
01:26:31,483 --> 01:26:32,424
money and other existing fundi

10082
01:26:32,424 --> 01:26:32,424
ng

10083
01:26:32,424 --> 01:26:33,477
sources and then there are, and

10084
01:26:33,477 --> 01:26:33,477


10085
01:26:33,477 --> 01:26:35,079
then we're considering them

10086
01:26:35,079 --> 01:26:36,392
amongst the other competition

10087
01:26:36,392 --> 01:26:37,923
for such good work.

10088
01:26:37,923 --> 01:26:40,355
so it is, this is merely about

10089
01:26:40,355 --> 01:26:40,355


10090
01:26:40,355 --> 01:26:41,694
the same process we are talkin

10091
01:26:41,694 --> 01:26:41,694
g

10092
01:26:41,694 --> 01:26:42,797
about this morning for me.

10093
01:26:42,797 --> 01:26:44,263
thank you.

10094
01:26:44,263 --> 01:26:45,731
>> mayor: all right, thank you

10095
01:26:45,731 --> 01:26:45,731


10096
01:26:45,731 --> 01:26:46,574
commissioner book.

10097
01:26:46,574 --> 01:26:47,663
commissioner duncan-walker.

10098
01:26:47,663 --> 01:26:49,087
>> thank you, mr. Mayor.

10099
01:26:49,087 --> 01:26:50,169
just a really quick question t

10100
01:26:50,169 --> 01:26:50,169
o

10101
01:26:50,169 --> 01:26:50,169
staff.

10102
01:26:50,169 --> 01:26:53,896
mr. Manager, how quickly, I know

10103
01:26:53,896 --> 01:26:53,896


10104
01:26:53,896 --> 01:26:55,624
we have a gpc coming up next

10105
01:26:55,624 --> 01:26:57,574
week, but how quickly probably

10106
01:26:57,574 --> 01:26:57,574


10107
01:26:57,574 --> 01:26:59,175
not at that one do you think

10108
01:26:59,175 --> 01:27:00,613
staff might be able to come bac

10109
01:27:00,613 --> 01:27:00,613
k

10110
01:27:00,613 --> 01:27:03,219
with some options for a process

10111
01:27:03,219 --> 01:27:03,219


10112
01:27:03,219 --> 01:27:04,389
to the commission based on wha

10113
01:27:04,389 --> 01:27:04,389
t

10114
01:27:04,389 --> 01:27:09,553
you've heard here today?

10115
01:27:09,553 --> 01:27:10,527
>> can you be more specific?

10116
01:27:10,527 --> 01:27:11,963
like what kind of process?

10117
01:27:11,963 --> 01:27:14,025
>> so you've heard us today tal

10118
01:27:14,025 --> 01:27:14,025
k

10119
01:27:14,025 --> 01:27:15,455
about the, you've heard us talk

10120
01:27:15,455 --> 01:27:15,455


10121
01:27:15,455 --> 01:27:16,395
about a few things.

10122
01:27:16,395 --> 01:27:17,430
you've heard us talk about

10123
01:27:17,430 --> 01:27:18,602
grants but you've also heard u

10124
01:27:18,602 --> 01:27:18,602
s

10125
01:27:18,602 --> 01:27:20,026
talk about loans.

10126
01:27:20,026 --> 01:27:21,969
you've heard us talk about pap

10127
01:27:21,969 --> 01:27:21,969
I

10128
01:27:21,969 --> 01:27:23,074
and I would personally be

10129
01:27:23,074 --> 01:27:24,663
interested in entertaining all

10130
01:27:24,663 --> 01:27:24,663


10131
01:27:24,663 --> 01:27:25,030
of the options.

10132
01:27:25,030 --> 01:27:26,099
now what I do understand about

10133
01:27:26,099 --> 01:27:26,099


10134
01:27:26,099 --> 01:27:30,345
papi is there was a little bit

10135
01:27:30,345 --> 01:27:30,345


10136
01:27:30,345 --> 01:27:34,047
of 3ugsback -- pushback by sta

10137
01:27:34,047 --> 01:27:34,047
ff

10138
01:27:34,047 --> 01:27:35,215
of altering that because there

10139
01:27:35,215 --> 01:27:35,215


10140
01:27:35,215 --> 01:27:37,047
are already major institutions

10141
01:27:37,047 --> 01:27:37,047


10142
01:27:37,047 --> 01:27:38,451
getting money out of the pot

10143
01:27:38,451 --> 01:27:39,505
that max out with that grant

10144
01:27:39,505 --> 01:27:41,485
which is why we -- none of us

10145
01:27:41,485 --> 01:27:43,523
are the professionals up here

10146
01:27:43,523 --> 01:27:45,291
that understand of the financing

10147
01:27:45,291 --> 01:27:45,291


10148
01:27:45,291 --> 01:27:46,305
behind that, et cetera,

10149
01:27:46,305 --> 01:27:48,291
et cetera, so I'm curious if

10150
01:27:48,291 --> 01:27:50,320
based on everything you've heard

10151
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:50,320


10152
01:27:50,320 --> 01:27:53,699
us say here today from loans t

10153
01:27:53,699 --> 01:27:53,699
o

10154
01:27:53,699 --> 01:27:55,696
grants and to specifically the

10155
01:27:55,696 --> 01:27:57,369
p

10156
01:27:57,369 --> 01:27:59,073
api grant so we can be reminded

10157
01:27:59,073 --> 01:27:59,073


10158
01:27:59,073 --> 01:28:00,069
or informed about what the

10159
01:28:00,069 --> 01:28:03,806
restrictions are or what our

10160
01:28:03,806 --> 01:28:05,448
options are if we did decide we

10161
01:28:05,448 --> 01:28:05,448


10162
01:28:05,448 --> 01:28:08,476
wanted tosee staff kind of

10163
01:28:08,476 --> 01:28:09,885
revisit and reformat that.

10164
01:28:09,885 --> 01:28:11,957
those options and anymore that

10165
01:28:11,957 --> 01:28:11,957


10166
01:28:11,957 --> 01:28:14,119
staff could come back with, how

10167
01:28:14,119 --> 01:28:14,119


10168
01:28:14,119 --> 01:28:15,515
quickly do you think we could

10169
01:28:15,515 --> 01:28:16,203
have that conversation or an

10170
01:28:16,203 --> 01:28:17,919
agenda item?

10171
01:28:17,919 --> 01:28:21,293
>> so I guess couple things.

10172
01:28:21,293 --> 01:28:26,269
for the papi grants, those are

10173
01:28:26,269 --> 01:28:26,269


10174
01:28:26,269 --> 01:28:27,596
grants but they're essentially

10175
01:28:27,596 --> 01:28:27,596


10176
01:28:27,596 --> 01:28:28,999
sort of more baked into your

10177
01:28:28,999 --> 01:28:28,999
budget.

10178
01:28:28,999 --> 01:28:31,863
there is less of a competitive

10179
01:28:31,863 --> 01:28:31,863


10180
01:28:31,863 --> 01:28:34,301
process that goes into it.

10181
01:28:34,301 --> 01:28:38,073
and my understanding is the

10182
01:28:38,073 --> 01:28:40,374
issue that we discussed last

10183
01:28:40,374 --> 01:28:44,679
time was that there are for art

10184
01:28:44,679 --> 01:28:44,679
s

10185
01:28:44,679 --> 01:28:46,385
producing organizations not art

10186
01:28:46,385 --> 01:28:46,385
s

10187
01:28:46,385 --> 01:28:46,385
presenting.

10188
01:28:46,385 --> 01:28:51,390
so there is, so in one sense

10189
01:28:51,390 --> 01:28:53,302
it's very easy because we can

10190
01:28:53,302 --> 01:28:55,095
just change that to include art

10191
01:28:55,095 --> 01:28:55,095
s

10192
01:28:55,095 --> 01:28:57,725
presenting organizations as

10193
01:28:57,725 --> 01:28:59,025
eligible as well, but then the

10194
01:28:59,025 --> 01:28:59,025
re

10195
01:28:59,025 --> 01:29:01,004
is the money piece and the

10196
01:29:01,004 --> 01:29:03,601
existing organizations that are

10197
01:29:03,601 --> 01:29:03,601


10198
01:29:03,601 --> 01:29:05,705
already funded, and I think we

10199
01:29:05,705 --> 01:29:05,705


10200
01:29:05,705 --> 01:29:06,537
would, what we had talked about

10201
01:29:06,537 --> 01:29:06,537


10202
01:29:06,537 --> 01:29:07,567
last time was potentially if

10203
01:29:07,567 --> 01:29:08,843
that was direction from the

10204
01:29:08,843 --> 01:29:10,707
commission, we would bring tha

10205
01:29:10,707 --> 01:29:10,707
t

10206
01:29:10,707 --> 01:29:13,105
any recommendations back throu

10207
01:29:13,105 --> 01:29:13,105
gh

10208
01:29:13,105 --> 01:29:15,481
your budget process this year.

10209
01:29:15,481 --> 01:29:15,481


10210
01:29:15,481 --> 01:29:18,115
there is also the outside agenc

10211
01:29:18,115 --> 01:29:18,115
y

10212
01:29:18,115 --> 01:29:20,619
grant which is more competitive

10213
01:29:20,619 --> 01:29:20,619
,

10214
01:29:20,619 --> 01:29:21,915
and it has like a larger

10215
01:29:21,915 --> 01:29:25,317
diversity of nonprofits that

10216
01:29:25,317 --> 01:29:25,317
apply.

10217
01:29:25,317 --> 01:29:27,591
of which I believe heartwood I

10218
01:29:27,591 --> 01:29:27,591
s

10219
01:29:27,591 --> 01:29:28,691
eligible for but that's a

10220
01:29:28,691 --> 01:29:31,927
smaller pot of money than papi.

10221
01:29:31,927 --> 01:29:31,927


10222
01:29:31,927 --> 01:29:39,619
similarly, I think that would b

10223
01:29:39,619 --> 01:29:39,619
e

10224
01:29:39,619 --> 01:29:42,149
something less of a programmati

10225
01:29:42,149 --> 01:29:42,149
c

10226
01:29:42,149 --> 01:29:43,102
change and more of a discussio

10227
01:29:43,102 --> 01:29:43,102
n

10228
01:29:43,102 --> 01:29:45,145
that you would all probably wan

10229
01:29:45,145 --> 01:29:45,145
t

10230
01:29:45,145 --> 01:29:50,891
to have around the actual total

10231
01:29:50,891 --> 01:29:50,891


10232
01:29:50,891 --> 01:29:50,891
amount.

10233
01:29:50,891 --> 01:29:52,085
I think commissioner willits y

10234
01:29:52,085 --> 01:29:52,085
ou

10235
01:29:52,085 --> 01:29:53,345
brought up last time that both

10236
01:29:53,345 --> 01:29:53,345


10237
01:29:53,345 --> 01:29:54,181
of those funding sources have

10238
01:29:54,181 --> 01:29:55,851
not been increased in a long

10239
01:29:55,851 --> 01:29:59,049
time, so I'm not sure it's

10240
01:29:59,049 --> 01:30:02,709
like -- we can come back for

10241
01:30:02,709 --> 01:30:04,049
options for programmatic chang

10242
01:30:04,049 --> 01:30:04,049
es

10243
01:30:04,049 --> 01:30:05,631
that are relatively short but I

10244
01:30:05,631 --> 01:30:05,631


10245
01:30:05,631 --> 01:30:06,256
don't think that gets to the

10246
01:30:06,256 --> 01:30:07,715
commission's point about if yo

10247
01:30:07,715 --> 01:30:07,715
u

10248
01:30:07,715 --> 01:30:09,731
all want to make room for a

10249
01:30:09,731 --> 01:30:12,937
fourth organization to fund,

10250
01:30:12,937 --> 01:30:13,801
that's going to be a budget

10251
01:30:13,801 --> 01:30:14,737
discussion through your budget

10252
01:30:14,737 --> 01:30:14,737


10253
01:30:14,737 --> 01:30:14,737
process.

10254
01:30:14,737 --> 01:30:19,811
I'm not worried about staff

10255
01:30:19,811 --> 01:30:22,739
being able to come up with

10256
01:30:22,739 --> 01:30:24,279
something in that sense, but I

10257
01:30:24,279 --> 01:30:24,279


10258
01:30:24,279 --> 01:30:25,183
don't want it to be a situation

10259
01:30:25,183 --> 01:30:25,183


10260
01:30:25,183 --> 01:30:27,187
where we rush staff forward and

10261
01:30:27,187 --> 01:30:27,187


10262
01:30:27,187 --> 01:30:28,588
we're still in the middle of

10263
01:30:28,588 --> 01:30:29,671
this existing budget, in the

10264
01:30:29,671 --> 01:30:30,619
middle of your budget process.

10265
01:30:30,619 --> 01:30:30,619


10266
01:30:30,619 --> 01:30:32,355
I would want to wrap that up

10267
01:30:32,355 --> 01:30:33,441
with the discussion of

10268
01:30:33,441 --> 01:30:34,191
everything else that we're going

10269
01:30:34,191 --> 01:30:34,191


10270
01:30:34,191 --> 01:30:36,221
to talk about with budget

10271
01:30:36,221 --> 01:30:37,375
process this year.

10272
01:30:37,375 --> 01:30:40,117
but we can certainly I think

10273
01:30:40,117 --> 01:30:43,401
come back with some programmati

10274
01:30:43,401 --> 01:30:43,401
c

10275
01:30:43,401 --> 01:30:46,928
recommendations through that

10276
01:30:46,928 --> 01:30:47,933
budget process and make sure

10277
01:30:47,933 --> 01:30:49,379
that that, if that's the

10278
01:30:49,379 --> 01:30:50,239
direction of the commission,

10279
01:30:50,239 --> 01:30:52,143
that could be something that w

10280
01:30:52,143 --> 01:30:52,143
e

10281
01:30:52,143 --> 01:30:53,717
discuss during when parks comes

10282
01:30:53,717 --> 01:30:53,717


10283
01:30:53,717 --> 01:30:54,823
and presents the budget or I

10284
01:30:54,823 --> 01:30:56,351
think those are maybe a

10285
01:30:56,351 --> 01:30:57,395
nondepartmental right now so w

10286
01:30:57,395 --> 01:30:57,395
e

10287
01:30:57,395 --> 01:30:57,639
can have

10288
01:30:57,639 --> 01:31:06,291
>> thank you.

10289
01:31:06,291 --> 01:31:07,725
>> thank you.

10290
01:31:07,725 --> 01:31:08,635
>> mayor: that leaves us at

10291
01:31:08,635 --> 01:31:08,635
zero.

10292
01:31:08,635 --> 01:31:12,969
I don't make motions as chair.

10293
01:31:12,969 --> 01:31:12,969


10294
01:31:12,969 --> 01:31:21,065
I would think what we would --

10295
01:31:21,065 --> 01:31:21,307
I

10296
01:31:21,307 --> 01:31:26,281
think what we would probably

10297
01:31:26,281 --> 01:31:27,909
like is for the manager's offic

10298
01:31:27,909 --> 01:31:27,909
e

10299
01:31:27,909 --> 01:31:30,211
to come back to us with an ide

10300
01:31:30,211 --> 01:31:30,878
a

10301
01:31:30,878 --> 01:31:33,015
of what a loan might look like

10302
01:31:33,015 --> 01:31:33,356


10303
01:31:33,356 --> 01:31:34,923
and what a grant might look

10304
01:31:34,923 --> 01:31:41,589
like, and how that would be

10305
01:31:41,589 --> 01:31:42,959
possible and if nobody wants t

10306
01:31:42,959 --> 01:31:43,121
o

10307
01:31:43,121 --> 01:31:44,525
make that motion, that means we

10308
01:31:44,525 --> 01:31:44,569


10309
01:31:44,569 --> 01:31:45,744
don't want to do this, and

10310
01:31:45,744 --> 01:31:46,135
that's okay as well.

10311
01:31:46,135 --> 01:31:48,217
commissioner willits?

10312
01:31:48,217 --> 01:31:50,161
>> I think I'm getting closer t

10313
01:31:50,161 --> 01:31:50,161
o

10314
01:31:50,161 --> 01:31:50,807
a motion.

10315
01:31:50,807 --> 01:31:57,285
I know delay is not great, but

10316
01:31:57,285 --> 01:32:00,143


10317
01:32:00,143 --> 01:32:08,897
we do have -- the potential

10318
01:32:08,897 --> 01:32:10,291
option to advance was for city

10319
01:32:10,291 --> 01:32:10,687


10320
01:32:10,687 --> 01:32:11,987
funds and audit rights.

10321
01:32:11,987 --> 01:32:14,659
that's where I'm leaning right

10322
01:32:14,659 --> 01:32:14,919


10323
01:32:14,919 --> 01:32:15,333
now with 55,000.

10324
01:32:15,333 --> 01:32:17,595
with some sort of option for -

10325
01:32:17,595 --> 01:32:18,687
-

10326
01:32:18,687 --> 01:32:20,159
I'm sure you'll open to lots o

10327
01:32:20,159 --> 01:32:20,263
f

10328
01:32:20,263 --> 01:32:21,973
public things when a nonprofit

10329
01:32:21,973 --> 01:32:21,973


10330
01:32:21,973 --> 01:32:22,599
is hosting this, that or the

10331
01:32:22,599 --> 01:32:22,599
other.

10332
01:32:22,599 --> 01:32:29,777
some sort of build in about

10333
01:32:29,777 --> 01:32:30,967
public access.

10334
01:32:30,967 --> 01:32:32,709
the grant suggests the public

10335
01:32:32,709 --> 01:32:32,709


10336
01:32:32,709 --> 01:32:34,153
has to be involved somehow,

10337
01:32:34,153 --> 01:32:34,575
there has to be an option.

10338
01:32:34,575 --> 01:32:43,449
some sort of -- I don't know

10339
01:32:43,449 --> 01:32:44,583
what city staff would envision

10340
01:32:44,583 --> 01:32:44,583
,s

10341
01:32:44,583 --> 01:32:46,887
maybe between now and next week

10342
01:32:46,887 --> 01:32:46,887
,

10343
01:32:46,887 --> 01:32:50,835
come up with -- yeah, we do hav

10344
01:32:50,835 --> 01:32:50,835
e

10345
01:32:50,835 --> 01:32:53,999
a need for a location.

10346
01:32:53,999 --> 01:32:55,093
we're going to record somethin

10347
01:32:55,093 --> 01:32:55,093
g.

10348
01:32:55,093 --> 01:32:59,899
commissioner eastman plays

10349
01:32:59,899 --> 01:32:59,899
guitar?

10350
01:32:59,899 --> 01:33:02,739
banjo, maybe he's going to hav

10351
01:33:02,739 --> 01:33:03,339
e

10352
01:33:03,339 --> 01:33:05,007
a city commission band who wan

10353
01:33:05,007 --> 01:33:05,007
ts

10354
01:33:05,007 --> 01:33:05,007
to.

10355
01:33:05,007 --> 01:33:07,779
I say that as a joke, but if

10356
01:33:07,779 --> 01:33:09,409
there's something we could be

10357
01:33:09,409 --> 01:33:09,409


10358
01:33:09,409 --> 01:33:11,059
useful for us, it could be

10359
01:33:11,059 --> 01:33:12,857
slotted in, public access,

10360
01:33:12,857 --> 01:33:15,687
benefiting the city directly o

10361
01:33:15,687 --> 01:33:15,957
r

10362
01:33:15,957 --> 01:33:16,779
just the public.

10363
01:33:16,779 --> 01:33:18,553
I'm leaning toward that secon

10364
01:33:18,553 --> 01:33:21,121
option to bring it back next

10365
01:33:21,121 --> 01:33:21,121
week.

10366
01:33:21,121 --> 01:33:23,553
which I know is a further dela

10367
01:33:23,553 --> 01:33:24,384
y,  none wants thear.

10368
01:33:24,384 --> 01:33:24,384
none wants thear.

10369
01:33:24,384 --> 01:33:30,547
my motion is that we look at t

10370
01:33:30,547 --> 01:33:30,547
he

10371
01:33:30,547 --> 01:33:32,905
next gpc, staff brings back the

10372
01:33:32,905 --> 01:33:33,131


10373
01:33:33,131 --> 01:33:35,277
option of an advanced grant wit

10374
01:33:35,277 --> 01:33:35,277
h

10375
01:33:35,277 --> 01:33:38,311
required backup documentation,

10376
01:33:38,311 --> 01:33:38,311


10377
01:33:38,311 --> 01:33:43,239
with specific funds and

10378
01:33:43,239 --> 01:33:45,081
public -- some sort of

10379
01:33:45,081 --> 01:33:47,713
expectation of public access

10380
01:33:47,713 --> 01:33:49,251
events for a time period or in

10381
01:33:49,251 --> 01:33:49,555
a

10382
01:33:49,555 --> 01:33:51,691
time period for the full

10383
01:33:51,691 --> 01:33:51,691
$55,000.

10384
01:33:51,691 --> 01:33:57,771
>> mayor: how about the 23rd

10385
01:33:57,771 --> 01:33:58,175
instead of next week.

10386
01:33:58,175 --> 01:34:05,111
>> let's do the 23rd.

10387
01:34:05,111 --> 01:34:12,949
>> second.

10388
01:34:12,949 --> 01:34:13,877
>> mayor: thank you.

10389
01:34:13,877 --> 01:34:16,639
>> I did want to hear.

10390
01:34:16,639 --> 01:34:18,563
I was going to -- I thought we

10391
01:34:18,563 --> 01:34:18,819


10392
01:34:18,819 --> 01:34:20,414
needed to make a call on it, I

10393
01:34:20,414 --> 01:34:20,755


10394
01:34:20,755 --> 01:34:22,259
would be curious what the city

10395
01:34:22,259 --> 01:34:22,782


10396
01:34:22,782 --> 01:34:23,691
manager had to say.

10397
01:34:23,691 --> 01:34:25,659
from my understanding of this

10398
01:34:25,659 --> 01:34:25,659


10399
01:34:25,659 --> 01:34:26,885
conversation, I don't think

10400
01:34:26,885 --> 01:34:28,521
staff thought this was a

10401
01:34:28,521 --> 01:34:30,429
complicated thing that it neede

10402
01:34:30,429 --> 01:34:30,429
d

10403
01:34:30,429 --> 01:34:33,293
to be written, prewritten, we

10404
01:34:33,293 --> 01:34:33,293


10405
01:34:33,293 --> 01:34:35,285
could have that direction here

10406
01:34:35,285 --> 01:34:35,285


10407
01:34:35,285 --> 01:34:35,285
today.

10408
01:34:35,285 --> 01:34:36,602
you have your light on, is that

10409
01:34:36,602 --> 01:34:36,739


10410
01:34:36,739 --> 01:34:36,739
right?

10411
01:34:36,739 --> 01:34:38,047
>> yeah.

10412
01:34:38,047 --> 01:34:47,676
>> I think commissioner willits

10413
01:34:47,676 --> 01:34:47,974


10414
01:34:47,974 --> 01:34:48,339
motion is clear.

10415
01:34:48,339 --> 01:34:50,186
we can take that, what I would

10416
01:34:50,186 --> 01:34:50,465


10417
01:34:50,465 --> 01:35:01,487
say in terms of the public

10418
01:35:01,487 --> 01:35:03,691
facing, if it's open to the

10419
01:35:03,691 --> 01:35:05,805
public, that's something that

10420
01:35:05,805 --> 01:35:05,805


10421
01:35:05,805 --> 01:35:07,292
hartwood is amenable to.

10422
01:35:07,292 --> 01:35:12,217
that gives us action, we make

10423
01:35:12,217 --> 01:35:12,217


10424
01:35:12,217 --> 01:35:12,905
that session here today.

10425
01:35:12,905 --> 01:35:14,449
I don't think we need to bring

10426
01:35:14,449 --> 01:35:14,581


10427
01:35:14,581 --> 01:35:16,735
it back, the only complicated

10428
01:35:16,735 --> 01:35:16,735


10429
01:35:16,735 --> 01:35:19,847
factor would be if there was -

10430
01:35:19,847 --> 01:35:20,105
-

10431
01:35:20,105 --> 01:35:23,773
if there was a desire to walk

10432
01:35:23,773 --> 01:35:23,773


10433
01:35:23,773 --> 01:35:24,544
down the loan front.

10434
01:35:24,544 --> 01:35:27,113
then we would need to come up

10435
01:35:27,113 --> 01:35:27,113


10436
01:35:27,113 --> 01:35:28,569
with repayment terms, et cetera

10437
01:35:28,569 --> 01:35:28,569
,

10438
01:35:28,569 --> 01:35:29,599
et cetera.

10439
01:35:29,599 --> 01:35:32,553
if the commission wants to do

10440
01:35:32,553 --> 01:35:32,553


10441
01:35:32,553 --> 01:35:35,860
the advance grant with those

10442
01:35:35,860 --> 01:35:36,861
stipulations, and the discussio

10443
01:35:36,861 --> 01:35:36,861
n

10444
01:35:36,861 --> 01:35:40,728
that we had about making sure

10445
01:35:40,728 --> 01:35:40,728


10446
01:35:40,728 --> 01:35:42,327
that it is for eligible

10447
01:35:42,327 --> 01:35:46,733
expenses, on going eligible

10448
01:35:46,733 --> 01:35:48,207
expenses, not past debt, I thi

10449
01:35:48,207 --> 01:35:48,207
nk

10450
01:35:48,207 --> 01:35:51,301
it's -- our preference would

10451
01:35:51,301 --> 01:35:53,479
probably be, as miss carnes

10452
01:35:53,479 --> 01:35:55,011
indicated, some of the equipment

10453
01:35:55,011 --> 01:35:55,011


10454
01:35:55,011 --> 01:35:57,841
costs because those are long

10455
01:35:57,841 --> 01:35:59,917
term capital investment that I

10456
01:35:59,917 --> 01:36:00,315


10457
01:36:00,315 --> 01:36:03,420
think would have benefit beyon

10458
01:36:03,420 --> 01:36:04,387
d

10459
01:36:04,387 --> 01:36:06,555
just necessarily paying for

10460
01:36:06,555 --> 01:36:08,021
staffing or salaries or things

10461
01:36:08,021 --> 01:36:08,201


10462
01:36:08,201 --> 01:36:18,025
like that, that would be our

10463
01:36:18,025 --> 01:36:18,025


10464
01:36:18,025 --> 01:36:21,868
if that's the will of the

10465
01:36:21,868 --> 01:36:23,203
commission, we could decide tha

10466
01:36:23,203 --> 01:36:23,203
t

10467
01:36:23,203 --> 01:36:24,809
today and give staff enough to

10468
01:36:24,809 --> 01:36:24,979


10469
01:36:24,979 --> 01:36:25,199
move forward.

10470
01:36:25,199 --> 01:36:28,411
>> to me, it's important that I

10471
01:36:28,411 --> 01:36:28,411
t

10472
01:36:28,411 --> 01:36:33,189
have -- it doesn't feel right

10473
01:36:33,189 --> 01:36:33,189


10474
01:36:33,189 --> 01:36:33,613
paying for equipment.

10475
01:36:33,613 --> 01:36:36,427
it's for a multiprivate

10476
01:36:36,427 --> 01:36:36,427
organization.

10477
01:36:36,427 --> 01:36:38,665
I think structuring -- whether

10478
01:36:38,665 --> 01:36:38,919


10479
01:36:38,919 --> 01:36:41,615
it's a grant or forgivable loan

10480
01:36:41,615 --> 01:36:41,759


10481
01:36:41,759 --> 01:36:43,519
that is based on a certain

10482
01:36:43,519 --> 01:36:45,219
number of events that get done

10483
01:36:45,219 --> 01:36:45,219


10484
01:36:45,219 --> 01:36:45,681
over the course of time.

10485
01:36:45,681 --> 01:36:50,563
15 years seems like a bit.

10486
01:36:50,563 --> 01:36:53,193
a three-year forgivable loan

10487
01:36:53,193 --> 01:36:54,197
that were open to the public,

10488
01:36:54,197 --> 01:36:54,197


10489
01:36:54,197 --> 01:36:55,704
which I think are pretty much I

10490
01:36:55,704 --> 01:36:55,704
n

10491
01:36:55,704 --> 01:36:57,879
there, I'm happy to defer that

10492
01:36:57,879 --> 01:36:58,011


10493
01:36:58,011 --> 01:36:59,838
to staff to kick that over, wha

10494
01:36:59,838 --> 01:36:59,838
t

10495
01:36:59,838 --> 01:37:01,099
the community expects and what

10496
01:37:01,099 --> 01:37:01,099


10497
01:37:01,099 --> 01:37:02,781
the city already does, we have

10498
01:37:02,781 --> 01:37:03,409


10499
01:37:03,409 --> 01:37:04,641
events that are open to the

10500
01:37:04,641 --> 01:37:06,796
public that people can come to

10501
01:37:06,796 --> 01:37:06,796
.

10502
01:37:06,796 --> 01:37:08,590
we -- that is a part of what w

10503
01:37:08,590 --> 01:37:08,877
e

10504
01:37:08,877 --> 01:37:09,414
do as a community.

10505
01:37:09,414 --> 01:37:12,353
this is an extension of that t

10506
01:37:12,353 --> 01:37:12,617
o

10507
01:37:12,617 --> 01:37:14,591
an organization that does that

10508
01:37:14,591 --> 01:37:14,855


10509
01:37:14,855 --> 01:37:15,543
very well.

10510
01:37:15,543 --> 01:37:17,675
I guess I'm comfortable with

10511
01:37:17,675 --> 01:37:18,153
what you have.

10512
01:37:18,153 --> 01:37:19,393
I think that gets in the same

10513
01:37:19,393 --> 01:37:19,393


10514
01:37:19,393 --> 01:37:19,393
direction.

10515
01:37:19,393 --> 01:37:23,500
>> mayor: thank you,

10516
01:37:23,500 --> 01:37:23,947
commissioner eastman.

10517
01:37:23,947 --> 01:37:25,629
I like the idea of a three-year

10518
01:37:25,629 --> 01:37:28,734


10519
01:37:28,734 --> 01:37:29,223
forgivable loan.

10520
01:37:29,223 --> 01:37:29,847
as opposed to straight out.

10521
01:37:29,847 --> 01:37:32,165
>> my original.

10522
01:37:32,165 --> 01:37:35,653
>> mayor: commissioner duncan

10523
01:37:35,653 --> 01:37:35,653


10524
01:37:35,653 --> 01:37:35,653
walker?

10525
01:37:35,653 --> 01:37:38,045
>> I was going to ask if the

10526
01:37:38,045 --> 01:37:39,010
maker of the motion would be

10527
01:37:39,010 --> 01:37:41,725
willing to add that to the

10528
01:37:41,725 --> 01:37:41,725
motion?

10529
01:37:41,725 --> 01:37:44,532
>> my preference is, it is

10530
01:37:44,532 --> 01:37:44,532
forgivable.

10531
01:37:44,532 --> 01:37:45,698
we give the money now.

10532
01:37:45,698 --> 01:37:48,389
>> to have staff to bring back

10533
01:37:48,389 --> 01:37:48,555


10534
01:37:48,555 --> 01:37:49,093
loan options so we can see.

10535
01:37:49,093 --> 01:37:52,795
>> I side more with commissione

10536
01:37:52,795 --> 01:37:52,795
r

10537
01:37:52,795 --> 01:37:54,967
eastman, let's get this done

10538
01:37:54,967 --> 01:37:55,216
right now.

10539
01:37:55,216 --> 01:37:57,063
if it didn't need to come back

10540
01:37:57,063 --> 01:37:57,529
,

10541
01:37:57,529 --> 01:37:58,911
the motion was clear enough, I

10542
01:37:58,911 --> 01:37:59,830


10543
01:37:59,830 --> 01:38:00,675
would prefer today.

10544
01:38:00,675 --> 01:38:02,603
in my heart of hearts, I like

10545
01:38:02,603 --> 01:38:02,603


10546
01:38:02,603 --> 01:38:04,571
the had idea of a forgivable

10547
01:38:04,571 --> 01:38:04,571
loan.

10548
01:38:04,571 --> 01:38:06,619
we get some documentation at

10549
01:38:06,619 --> 01:38:08,410
some point and we see some -- I

10550
01:38:08,410 --> 01:38:08,410
f

10551
01:38:08,410 --> 01:38:12,245
it's four events a year, you

10552
01:38:12,245 --> 01:38:13,983
know, then they say yeah, we d

10553
01:38:13,983 --> 01:38:13,983
id

10554
01:38:13,983 --> 01:38:16,447
this, it was great, it was fun,

10555
01:38:16,447 --> 01:38:16,953


10556
01:38:16,953 --> 01:38:19,355
at the end, it's a forgivable

10557
01:38:19,355 --> 01:38:19,355


10558
01:38:19,355 --> 01:38:19,355
loan.

10559
01:38:19,355 --> 01:38:22,285
a forgivable loan is less of ou

10560
01:38:22,285 --> 01:38:22,285
r

10561
01:38:22,285 --> 01:38:24,965
knowledge base, that's why I

10562
01:38:24,965 --> 01:38:26,263
lean more toward getting

10563
01:38:26,263 --> 01:38:26,789
something done today.

10564
01:38:26,789 --> 01:38:29,255
just to be clear, you know what,

10565
01:38:29,255 --> 01:38:29,255


10566
01:38:29,255 --> 01:38:31,879
I withdraw my motion and we wi

10567
01:38:31,879 --> 01:38:31,879
ll

10568
01:38:31,879 --> 01:38:32,245
start a new motion.

10569
01:38:32,245 --> 01:38:34,811
this is literally how the

10570
01:38:34,811 --> 01:38:35,084
sausage is made.

10571
01:38:35,084 --> 01:38:43,445
>> that is why I said that, I

10572
01:38:43,445 --> 01:38:43,445


10573
01:38:43,445 --> 01:38:44,303
like something the mayor

10574
01:38:44,303 --> 01:38:46,111
brought up, it would take us I

10575
01:38:46,111 --> 01:38:46,413
n

10576
01:38:46,413 --> 01:38:47,211
a different direction in terms

10577
01:38:47,211 --> 01:38:47,495


10578
01:38:47,495 --> 01:38:49,185
of giving us the ability to be

10579
01:38:49,185 --> 01:38:49,611


10580
01:38:49,611 --> 01:38:53,291
able to regenerate the pot of

10581
01:38:53,291 --> 01:38:53,291


10582
01:38:53,291 --> 01:38:53,291
money.

10583
01:38:53,291 --> 01:38:56,148
so a loan, whatever the options

10584
01:38:56,148 --> 01:38:56,148
are

10585
01:38:56,148 --> 01:39:02,597
are from all of us.

10586
01:39:02,597 --> 01:39:04,371
we're still able to provide a

10587
01:39:04,371 --> 01:39:04,371


10588
01:39:04,371 --> 01:39:06,010
service, now we don't have the

10589
01:39:06,010 --> 01:39:06,567


10590
01:39:06,567 --> 01:39:07,835
responsibility of, here we hav

10591
01:39:07,835 --> 01:39:07,967
e

10592
01:39:07,967 --> 01:39:09,304
to carve this out in the budget

10593
01:39:09,304 --> 01:39:09,304
.

10594
01:39:09,304 --> 01:39:10,857
I think that's very important

10595
01:39:10,857 --> 01:39:10,857


10596
01:39:10,857 --> 01:39:14,812
for us, it's part of our

10597
01:39:14,812 --> 01:39:16,207
responsibility for the people

10598
01:39:16,207 --> 01:39:16,207


10599
01:39:16,207 --> 01:39:19,711
who expect us to be able to

10600
01:39:19,711 --> 01:39:21,681
support the arts, but also in

10601
01:39:21,681 --> 01:39:21,681


10602
01:39:21,681 --> 01:39:24,293
these lean times, do it as

10603
01:39:24,293 --> 01:39:25,825
fiscally responsible as we can

10604
01:39:25,825 --> 01:39:25,825
.

10605
01:39:25,825 --> 01:39:28,701
>> we can make the motion.

10606
01:39:28,701 --> 01:39:31,458
>> I can definitely make the

10607
01:39:31,458 --> 01:39:31,458
motion.

10608
01:39:31,458 --> 01:39:33,885
let's see.

10609
01:39:33,885 --> 01:39:41,209
I move that staff come back wit

10610
01:39:41,209 --> 01:39:41,209
h

10611
01:39:41,209 --> 01:39:44,407
options for a loan program tha

10612
01:39:44,407 --> 01:39:44,563
t

10613
01:39:44,563 --> 01:39:46,031
will support arts organization

10614
01:39:46,031 --> 01:39:46,031
s,

10615
01:39:46,031 --> 01:39:49,973
not currently served.

10616
01:39:49,973 --> 01:39:52,079
and I guess I could put the

10617
01:39:52,079 --> 01:39:52,435
period there.

10618
01:39:52,435 --> 01:39:53,558
does that cover what we need?

10619
01:39:53,558 --> 01:39:53,763
>> second.

10620
01:39:53,763 --> 01:39:57,051
>> mayor: we have a motion and

10621
01:39:57,051 --> 01:39:57,455
a

10622
01:39:57,455 --> 01:39:57,455
second.

10623
01:39:57,455 --> 01:39:58,629
anything snels.

10624
01:39:58,629 --> 01:40:00,252
>> no, I think that's it.

10625
01:40:00,252 --> 01:40:01,922
>> mayor: commissioner eastman?

10626
01:40:01,922 --> 01:40:01,922


10627
01:40:01,922 --> 01:40:03,332
>> that's fine, we can move on

10628
01:40:03,332 --> 01:40:03,332


10629
01:40:03,332 --> 01:40:06,005
the current motion.

10630
01:40:06,005 --> 01:40:07,002
>> mayor: okay.

10631
01:40:07,002 --> 01:40:08,669
we need to ask for public

10632
01:40:08,669 --> 01:40:08,669
comment.

10633
01:40:08,669 --> 01:40:10,021
we don't have any.

10634
01:40:10,021 --> 01:40:12,465
>> I would like to see what the

10635
01:40:12,465 --> 01:40:12,555


10636
01:40:12,555 --> 01:40:13,742
motion is that we're voting on.

10637
01:40:13,742 --> 01:40:13,742


10638
01:40:13,742 --> 01:40:15,672
there have been several.

10639
01:40:15,672 --> 01:40:18,953
>> mayor: it will take us a

10640
01:40:18,953 --> 01:40:19,385
moment to get it on screen.

10641
01:40:19,385 --> 01:40:22,578
>> broadcast, I have it up.

10642
01:40:22,578 --> 01:40:24,855
there we go.

10643
01:40:24,855 --> 01:40:33,756
>> mayor: do you want to put a

10644
01:40:33,756 --> 01:40:33,917
n

10645
01:40:33,917 --> 01:40:34,425
amount on there?

10646
01:40:34,425 --> 01:40:37,283
>> no, I don't want to put an

10647
01:40:37,283 --> 01:40:37,283


10648
01:40:37,283 --> 01:40:37,528
amount on there.

10649
01:40:37,528 --> 01:40:43,433
I want staff to.

10650
01:40:43,433 --> 01:40:44,731
>> mayor: do you want to put a

10651
01:40:44,731 --> 01:40:45,027


10652
01:40:45,027 --> 01:40:45,705
date on there?

10653
01:40:45,705 --> 01:40:47,737
>> can you bring it back to gp

10654
01:40:47,737 --> 01:40:48,837
c

10655
01:40:48,837 --> 01:40:49,439
on the 23rd?

10656
01:40:49,439 --> 01:40:51,721
I'm trying to take a little

10657
01:40:51,721 --> 01:40:52,165
pressure off from you.

10658
01:40:52,165 --> 01:40:58,525
>> that's the second gpc of th

10659
01:40:58,525 --> 01:41:00,083
e

10660
01:41:00,083 --> 01:41:00,083
month.

10661
01:41:00,083 --> 01:41:01,419
we can, yes.

10662
01:41:01,419 --> 01:41:12,790
is this to serve heartwood or?

10663
01:41:12,790 --> 01:41:12,790


10664
01:41:12,790 --> 01:41:16,299
I'm confused.

10665
01:41:16,299 --> 01:41:18,133
does this need to be done for

10666
01:41:18,133 --> 01:41:18,133


10667
01:41:18,133 --> 01:41:18,699
her to apply?

10668
01:41:18,699 --> 01:41:20,697
>> well, this is great for the

10669
01:41:20,697 --> 01:41:21,166


10670
01:41:21,166 --> 01:41:22,375
community, it's not actually

10671
01:41:22,375 --> 01:41:22,767
what hartwood was requesting.

10672
01:41:22,767 --> 01:41:26,905
we were requesting money we won

10673
01:41:26,905 --> 01:41:27,125


10674
01:41:27,125 --> 01:41:29,776
the owe you to kind of -- I'm

10675
01:41:29,776 --> 01:41:29,776


10676
01:41:29,776 --> 01:41:31,679
trying to avoid being back her

10677
01:41:31,679 --> 01:41:32,513
e

10678
01:41:32,513 --> 01:41:33,209
next year asking again.

10679
01:41:33,209 --> 01:41:40,119
so a loan we would have to pay

10680
01:41:40,119 --> 01:41:40,119


10681
01:41:40,119 --> 01:41:42,611
off doesn't fix that need.

10682
01:41:42,611 --> 01:41:44,491
it won't be ready for us in tim

10683
01:41:44,491 --> 01:41:44,491
e

10684
01:41:44,491 --> 01:41:45,824
for summer.

10685
01:41:45,824 --> 01:41:45,981
>> understood.

10686
01:41:45,981 --> 01:41:50,172
>> I think it's a great motion

10687
01:41:50,172 --> 01:41:50,172
.

10688
01:41:50,172 --> 01:41:54,202
>> I think if this is the

10689
01:41:54,202 --> 01:41:55,643
direction that the commission

10690
01:41:55,643 --> 01:41:55,643


10691
01:41:55,643 --> 01:41:58,183
wants to do from a programmati

10692
01:41:58,183 --> 01:41:58,707
c

10693
01:41:58,707 --> 01:42:00,219
standpoint, then I think that'

10694
01:42:00,219 --> 01:42:00,475
s

10695
01:42:00,475 --> 01:42:03,215
a separate motion than dealing

10696
01:42:03,215 --> 01:42:03,649


10697
01:42:03,649 --> 01:42:04,943
with heart wood.

10698
01:42:04,943 --> 01:42:08,413
we can do this, we don't need

10699
01:42:08,413 --> 01:42:08,413


10700
01:42:08,413 --> 01:42:09,518
necessarily, if you all want I

10701
01:42:09,518 --> 01:42:09,679
t

10702
01:42:09,679 --> 01:42:11,819
on the 23rd for initial

10703
01:42:11,819 --> 01:42:11,819
discussion.

10704
01:42:11,819 --> 01:42:14,053
I think part of the budget

10705
01:42:14,053 --> 01:42:15,464
process, we wouldn't need to

10706
01:42:15,464 --> 01:42:17,926
actually put some money in to

10707
01:42:17,926 --> 01:42:17,926


10708
01:42:17,926 --> 01:42:18,854
the initial loan amount.

10709
01:42:18,854 --> 01:42:20,897
and my recommendation would

10710
01:42:20,897 --> 01:42:23,203
again be let's do that as part

10711
01:42:23,203 --> 01:42:23,461


10712
01:42:23,461 --> 01:42:24,326
of the budget process.

10713
01:42:24,326 --> 01:42:26,503
but I think if the commission

10714
01:42:26,503 --> 01:42:26,503


10715
01:42:26,503 --> 01:42:34,605
wants to deal with hartwood,

10716
01:42:34,605 --> 01:42:35,062
they're two separate things.

10717
01:42:35,062 --> 01:42:38,395
does that make sense?

10718
01:42:38,395 --> 01:42:38,712
>> it does.

10719
01:42:38,712 --> 01:42:45,343
>> and again n a competitive

10720
01:42:45,343 --> 01:42:45,879
way.

10721
01:42:45,879 --> 01:42:47,279
>> in a competitive process,

10722
01:42:47,279 --> 01:42:49,893
where the city is able to recou

10723
01:42:49,893 --> 01:42:49,893
p

10724
01:42:49,893 --> 01:42:50,656
their funds.

10725
01:42:50,656 --> 01:42:52,575
I have no problem with that

10726
01:42:52,575 --> 01:42:54,964
being a part of the budgetary

10727
01:42:54,964 --> 01:42:54,964


10728
01:42:54,964 --> 01:42:54,964
solution.

10729
01:42:54,964 --> 01:42:56,634
we have this one on the table.

10730
01:42:56,634 --> 01:42:56,634


10731
01:42:56,634 --> 01:43:00,865
but it's not applied to

10732
01:43:00,865 --> 01:43:01,374
heart wood.

10733
01:43:01,374 --> 01:43:04,706
we need another one going to

10734
01:43:04,706 --> 01:43:07,362
heart wood.

10735
01:43:07,362 --> 01:43:07,975
>> am I taking the 23rd off?

10736
01:43:07,975 --> 01:43:08,191
>> yes.

10737
01:43:08,191 --> 01:43:19,133
>> thank you.

10738
01:43:19,133 --> 01:43:21,429
>> okay.  That is something

10739
01:43:21,429 --> 01:43:22,820
that is something we can handl

10740
01:43:22,820 --> 01:43:23,025
e

10741
01:43:23,025 --> 01:43:25,625
during the -- should we vote

10742
01:43:25,625 --> 01:43:26,825
affirmatively on this, that's

10743
01:43:26,825 --> 01:43:26,825


10744
01:43:26,825 --> 01:43:27,942
something we can do during the

10745
01:43:27,942 --> 01:43:28,363


10746
01:43:28,363 --> 01:43:28,847
budget process.

10747
01:43:28,847 --> 01:43:31,101
we still have the question to

10748
01:43:31,101 --> 01:43:31,101


10749
01:43:31,101 --> 01:43:32,895
deal with, but is there any

10750
01:43:32,895 --> 01:43:36,067
other question about this

10751
01:43:36,067 --> 01:43:36,386
particular motion?

10752
01:43:36,386 --> 01:43:39,777
all in favor?

10753
01:43:39,777 --> 01:43:40,805
any opposed?

10754
01:43:40,805 --> 01:43:43,416
that passes unanimously, as par

10755
01:43:43,416 --> 01:43:43,416
t

10756
01:43:43,416 --> 01:43:45,145
of the on going process.

10757
01:43:45,145 --> 01:43:45,938
at some number.

10758
01:43:45,938 --> 01:43:48,073
now, that's not a definite

10759
01:43:48,073 --> 01:43:49,546
number, and we can work that o

10760
01:43:49,546 --> 01:43:49,546
ut

10761
01:43:49,546 --> 01:43:50,447
as we go.

10762
01:43:50,447 --> 01:43:54,093
I do think that has tremendous

10763
01:43:54,093 --> 01:43:54,307


10764
01:43:54,307 --> 01:43:55,989
long term potential, even at a

10765
01:43:55,989 --> 01:43:56,036


10766
01:43:56,036 --> 01:43:56,353
low number.

10767
01:43:56,353 --> 01:43:58,438
I think it gets a lot of

10768
01:43:58,438 --> 01:44:00,524
organizations over a hump,

10769
01:44:00,524 --> 01:44:02,167
without having to put it on

10770
01:44:02,167 --> 01:44:02,961
someone's credit card.

10771
01:44:02,961 --> 01:44:07,706
the truth,that's what arts

10772
01:44:07,706 --> 01:44:08,510
organizations get funded with,

10773
01:44:08,510 --> 01:44:09,173


10774
01:44:09,173 --> 01:44:11,705
someone's high interest credit

10775
01:44:11,705 --> 01:44:11,705


10776
01:44:11,705 --> 01:44:11,705
card.

10777
01:44:11,705 --> 01:44:14,541
it's rarely a situation with

10778
01:44:14,541 --> 01:44:16,512
nonprofits and particularly art

10779
01:44:16,512 --> 01:44:16,512
s

10780
01:44:16,512 --> 01:44:18,814
nonprofits and for profit, to

10781
01:44:18,814 --> 01:44:18,814


10782
01:44:18,814 --> 01:44:19,446
make a profit.

10783
01:44:19,446 --> 01:44:22,916
and it's harder to be stable

10784
01:44:22,916 --> 01:44:24,759
without the community's suppor

10785
01:44:24,759 --> 01:44:24,759
t.

10786
01:44:24,759 --> 01:44:26,425
that still leaves us with the

10787
01:44:26,425 --> 01:44:26,425


10788
01:44:26,425 --> 01:44:28,759
question we have on the agenda

10789
01:44:28,759 --> 01:44:29,525


10790
01:44:29,525 --> 01:44:29,525
today.

10791
01:44:29,525 --> 01:44:31,454
commissioner eastman?

10792
01:44:31,454 --> 01:44:33,791
>> for the point of this, I'm

10793
01:44:33,791 --> 01:44:33,791


10794
01:44:33,791 --> 01:44:35,491
happy to review it, I think

10795
01:44:35,491 --> 01:44:37,539
there's a lot that need -- how

10796
01:44:37,539 --> 01:44:37,765


10797
01:44:37,765 --> 01:44:40,048
we're going to make up our

10798
01:44:40,048 --> 01:44:41,943
budget gap that we have, I

10799
01:44:41,943 --> 01:44:42,871
consider this part of the

10800
01:44:42,871 --> 01:44:44,941
overall policy process, and I'l

10801
01:44:44,941 --> 01:44:44,941
l

10802
01:44:44,941 --> 01:44:46,654
be curious what staff comes bac

10803
01:44:46,654 --> 01:44:46,654
k

10804
01:44:46,654 --> 01:44:46,654
with.

10805
01:44:46,654 --> 01:44:49,879
I hope just to be on the up

10806
01:44:49,879 --> 01:44:52,611
front about it, in the same vie

10807
01:44:52,611 --> 01:44:52,611
w

10808
01:44:52,611 --> 01:44:55,761
as the hippo drome came out for

10809
01:44:55,761 --> 01:44:56,650


10810
01:44:56,650 --> 01:44:57,893
$250,000 initially?

10811
01:44:57,893 --> 01:44:59,343
>> mayor: that's what think

10812
01:44:59,343 --> 01:45:01,604
asked, I don't think we gave

10813
01:45:01,604 --> 01:45:02,021
them 250.

10814
01:45:02,021 --> 01:45:04,193
>> I think in that same spirit

10815
01:45:04,193 --> 01:45:04,625
,

10816
01:45:04,625 --> 01:45:06,128
I hear what you're saying about

10817
01:45:06,128 --> 01:45:06,439


10818
01:45:06,439 --> 01:45:06,703
the 55,000.

10819
01:45:06,703 --> 01:45:10,397
I move to approve $45,000 to b

10820
01:45:10,397 --> 01:45:11,231
e

10821
01:45:11,231 --> 01:45:13,766
taken out of excess fund balan

10822
01:45:13,766 --> 01:45:13,766
ce

10823
01:45:13,766 --> 01:45:15,645
to be forgiven over three year

10824
01:45:15,645 --> 01:45:15,645
s,

10825
01:45:15,645 --> 01:45:17,908
contingent on continued

10826
01:45:17,908 --> 01:45:19,975
operations, and hosting at lea

10827
01:45:19,975 --> 01:45:19,975
st

10828
01:45:19,975 --> 01:45:23,285
four free community accessible

10829
01:45:23,285 --> 01:45:23,715


10830
01:45:23,715 --> 01:45:24,041
events per year.

10831
01:45:24,041 --> 01:45:24,583
>> second.

10832
01:45:24,583 --> 01:45:28,697
>> mayor: okay.

10833
01:45:28,697 --> 01:45:32,094
we have a motion and a second.

10834
01:45:32,094 --> 01:45:32,094


10835
01:45:32,094 --> 01:45:34,001
is there any conversation or

10836
01:45:34,001 --> 01:45:35,686
misunderstanding about that.

10837
01:45:35,686 --> 01:45:36,992
>> what we're doing right now,

10838
01:45:36,992 --> 01:45:37,664


10839
01:45:37,664 --> 01:45:39,875
events downtown, about $5,000

10840
01:45:39,875 --> 01:45:39,875


10841
01:45:39,875 --> 01:45:39,875
per.

10842
01:45:39,875 --> 01:45:42,495
so events over a three-year

10843
01:45:42,495 --> 01:45:44,569
period, it would be $60,000 for

10844
01:45:44,569 --> 01:45:44,765


10845
01:45:44,765 --> 01:45:45,440
what we're currently putting o

10846
01:45:45,440 --> 01:45:45,440
ut

10847
01:45:45,440 --> 01:45:45,440
there.

10848
01:45:45,440 --> 01:45:47,548
>> this is less than that.

10849
01:45:47,548 --> 01:45:49,911
>> yeah, this is less than that

10850
01:45:49,911 --> 01:45:49,911
.

10851
01:45:49,911 --> 01:45:55,141
>> mayor: any questions about

10852
01:45:55,141 --> 01:45:55,141


10853
01:45:55,141 --> 01:45:55,614
the current motion?

10854
01:45:55,614 --> 01:45:56,396
all in favor, please say aye.

10855
01:45:56,396 --> 01:45:59,064
>> aye.

10856
01:45:59,064 --> 01:46:00,479
>> mayor: any opposed?

10857
01:46:00,479 --> 01:46:03,397
>> nay.

10858
01:46:03,397 --> 01:46:05,870
>> 45,000?

10859
01:46:05,870 --> 01:46:06,134
>> yes.

10860
01:46:06,134 --> 01:46:12,462
so you were --

10861
01:46:12,462 --> 01:46:14,094
>> yes, I just want to make sur

10862
01:46:14,094 --> 01:46:14,094
e

10863
01:46:14,094 --> 01:46:15,730
we're talking about 45 instead

10864
01:46:15,730 --> 01:46:16,174


10865
01:46:16,174 --> 01:46:16,511
of 55.

10866
01:46:16,511 --> 01:46:17,039
>> yes.

10867
01:46:17,039 --> 01:46:20,168
>> and commissioner duncan

10868
01:46:20,168 --> 01:46:21,815
walker you were nay?

10869
01:46:21,815 --> 01:46:23,055
>> nay.

10870
01:46:23,055 --> 01:46:27,574
>> mayor: I'm yea.

10871
01:46:27,574 --> 01:46:30,341
that passes 4-3, with book,

10872
01:46:30,341 --> 01:46:32,781
chestnut and duncan walker in

10873
01:46:32,781 --> 01:46:32,781


10874
01:46:32,781 --> 01:46:32,781
dissent.

10875
01:46:32,781 --> 01:46:33,648
is that accurate?

10876
01:46:33,648 --> 01:46:33,969
>> correct.

10877
01:46:33,969 --> 01:46:37,881
>> mayor: all right.

10878
01:46:37,881 --> 01:46:38,482
there you go.

10879
01:46:38,482 --> 01:46:41,053
>> I want to thank you all for

10880
01:46:41,053 --> 01:46:41,758


10881
01:46:41,758 --> 01:46:43,691
taking the time to discuss thi

10882
01:46:43,691 --> 01:46:43,997
s

10883
01:46:43,997 --> 01:46:45,774
in multiple meetings.

10884
01:46:45,774 --> 01:46:48,428
we're thankful for your su

10885
01:46:48,428 --> 01:46:51,876
heart wood and the arts.

10886
01:46:51,876 --> 01:47:00,678
mr. Manager and mr. Attorneys

10887
01:47:00,678 --> 01:47:00,678


10888
01:47:00,678 --> 01:47:00,993
[ inaudible ]

10889
01:47:00,993 --> 01:47:03,587
>> mayor: madam clerk.

10890
01:47:03,587 --> 01:47:07,527
>> madam mayor, 2026-226,

10891
01:47:07,527 --> 01:47:08,501
northeast 8th avenue corridor

10892
01:47:08,501 --> 01:47:08,501


10893
01:47:08,501 --> 01:47:08,501
improvements.

10894
01:47:08,501 --> 01:47:12,607
the city commission authorize

10895
01:47:12,607 --> 01:47:12,607


10896
01:47:12,607 --> 01:47:14,823
the city manager to proceed wit

10897
01:47:14,823 --> 01:47:14,823
h

10898
01:47:14,823 --> 01:47:17,605
the redesign of northeast 8th

10899
01:47:17,605 --> 01:47:17,605


10900
01:47:17,605 --> 01:47:22,695
avenue from waldo road to loft

10901
01:47:22,695 --> 01:47:22,695
en

10902
01:47:22,695 --> 01:47:24,229
high school.

10903
01:47:24,229 --> 01:47:26,355
return to the city commission

10904
01:47:26,355 --> 01:47:26,355


10905
01:47:26,355 --> 01:47:28,768
with a construction agreement

10906
01:47:28,768 --> 01:47:28,768


10907
01:47:28,768 --> 01:47:36,149
with the northeast 8th avenue.

10908
01:47:36,149 --> 01:47:36,149


10909
01:47:36,149 --> 01:47:36,987
>> mayor: welcome back.

10910
01:47:36,987 --> 01:47:38,871
>> we have a presentation today

10911
01:47:38,871 --> 01:47:39,046


10912
01:47:39,046 --> 01:47:42,046
to show you some proposed

10913
01:47:42,046 --> 01:47:43,735
concept you'll concepts of the

10914
01:47:43,735 --> 01:47:44,225


10915
01:47:44,225 --> 01:47:47,626
northeast 8th avenue corridor

10916
01:47:47,626 --> 01:47:47,626


10917
01:47:47,626 --> 01:47:47,626
improvements.

10918
01:47:47,626 --> 01:47:49,283
this presentation is going to

10919
01:47:49,283 --> 01:47:49,283


10920
01:47:49,283 --> 01:47:50,659
provide some options, and then

10921
01:47:50,659 --> 01:47:50,838


10922
01:47:50,838 --> 01:47:54,563
what our recommendations are

10923
01:47:54,563 --> 01:47:54,563
currently.

10924
01:47:54,563 --> 01:47:59,737
the portion of the road -- I'm

10925
01:47:59,737 --> 01:47:59,827


10926
01:47:59,827 --> 01:48:07,639
sorry, there's two parts.

10927
01:48:07,639 --> 01:48:10,081
dr. Chase and I will be

10928
01:48:10,081 --> 01:48:11,596
presenting on the portion of th

10929
01:48:11,596 --> 01:48:11,596
e

10930
01:48:11,596 --> 01:48:13,212
road that we are designing.

10931
01:48:13,212 --> 01:48:15,443
ultimately, we're just looking

10932
01:48:15,443 --> 01:48:15,641


10933
01:48:15,641 --> 01:48:17,815
for some recommendations for

10934
01:48:17,815 --> 01:48:18,916
approval to move forward with

10935
01:48:18,916 --> 01:48:18,916


10936
01:48:18,916 --> 01:48:22,316
some recommendations that we

10937
01:48:22,316 --> 01:48:22,316
have.

10938
01:48:22,316 --> 01:48:28,742
>> mayor: good.

10939
01:48:28,742 --> 01:48:32,428
>> good afternoon, mona konach

10940
01:48:32,428 --> 01:48:32,428
et

10941
01:48:32,428 --> 01:48:35,570
with nb5.

10942
01:48:35,570 --> 01:48:41,008
I'm going to go through what

10943
01:48:41,008 --> 01:48:42,688
informed our options and design

10944
01:48:42,688 --> 01:48:43,010


10945
01:48:43,010 --> 01:48:43,010
decisions.

10946
01:48:43,010 --> 01:48:44,544
for the corridor.

10947
01:48:44,544 --> 01:48:46,189
we'll talk about public

10948
01:48:46,189 --> 01:48:47,778
involvement, how we got citizen

10949
01:48:47,778 --> 01:48:47,778
s

10950
01:48:47,778 --> 01:48:50,056
involveds in neighborhood

10951
01:48:50,056 --> 01:48:50,056
residents.

10952
01:48:50,056 --> 01:48:52,096
I'll go through a general

10953
01:48:52,096 --> 01:48:53,100
project overview, where we are,

10954
01:48:53,100 --> 01:48:53,450


10955
01:48:53,450 --> 01:48:54,788
what we're doing, go through t

10956
01:48:54,788 --> 01:48:54,788
he

10957
01:48:54,788 --> 01:48:56,190
existing conditions.

10958
01:48:56,190 --> 01:48:58,356
some data, traffic and

10959
01:48:58,356 --> 01:48:58,872
transportation data.

10960
01:48:58,872 --> 01:49:00,995
the options we came up with, a

10961
01:49:00,995 --> 01:49:00,995
nd

10962
01:49:00,995 --> 01:49:06,476
then our recommendations.

10963
01:49:06,476 --> 01:49:08,896
so that's the title.

10964
01:49:08,896 --> 01:49:11,252
last year on the 29th of may.

10965
01:49:11,252 --> 01:49:14,172
we held a public workshop.

10966
01:49:14,172 --> 01:49:16,180
this was an opportunity for us

10967
01:49:16,180 --> 01:49:16,613


10968
01:49:16,613 --> 01:49:19,212
to present not only the citizens

10969
01:49:19,212 --> 01:49:19,212


10970
01:49:19,212 --> 01:49:21,382
field revitalization plan for

10971
01:49:21,382 --> 01:49:21,382


10972
01:49:21,382 --> 01:49:23,584
the site, but as well as our

10973
01:49:23,584 --> 01:49:24,278
street scapes plan.

10974
01:49:24,278 --> 01:49:27,722
we had about 60 attendees, and

10975
01:49:27,722 --> 01:49:28,124


10976
01:49:28,124 --> 01:49:29,983
we set up stations so that

10977
01:49:29,983 --> 01:49:30,626
residents could come and speak

10978
01:49:30,626 --> 01:49:30,788


10979
01:49:30,788 --> 01:49:32,720
with us, ask us questions and

10980
01:49:32,720 --> 01:49:32,720


10981
01:49:32,720 --> 01:49:33,964
tell us their concerns or thing

10982
01:49:33,964 --> 01:49:33,964
s

10983
01:49:33,964 --> 01:49:37,290
they want to see in their

10984
01:49:37,290 --> 01:49:37,290
neighborhood.

10985
01:49:37,290 --> 01:49:40,298
some feedback we got on that,

10986
01:49:40,298 --> 01:49:40,298


10987
01:49:40,298 --> 01:49:41,806
definitely speed was an issue

10988
01:49:41,806 --> 01:49:41,806


10989
01:49:41,806 --> 01:49:43,677
through some segments of eight

10990
01:49:43,677 --> 01:49:44,035
h

10991
01:49:44,035 --> 01:49:44,035
avenue.

10992
01:49:44,035 --> 01:49:47,908
they wanted bike lanes with the

10993
01:49:47,908 --> 01:49:47,995


10994
01:49:47,995 --> 01:49:50,578
green pavement markings, some

10995
01:49:50,578 --> 01:49:50,578


10996
01:49:50,578 --> 01:49:51,854
enhanced pedestrians crossings,

10997
01:49:51,854 --> 01:49:52,212


10998
01:49:52,212 --> 01:49:54,717
whether that's the raised

10999
01:49:54,717 --> 01:49:56,918
intersections and spied humps o

11000
01:49:56,918 --> 01:49:56,918
r

11001
01:49:56,918 --> 01:49:59,184
flashing beacons and fluorescent

11002
01:49:59,184 --> 01:49:59,184


11003
01:49:59,184 --> 01:49:59,184
signage.

11004
01:49:59,184 --> 01:50:02,991
some landscape medians,

11005
01:50:02,991 --> 01:50:04,422
especially west of waldo.

11006
01:50:04,422 --> 01:50:06,480
some had concerns with the

11007
01:50:06,480 --> 01:50:08,721
median openings along eighth

11008
01:50:08,721 --> 01:50:08,721
avenue.

11009
01:50:08,721 --> 01:50:11,232
and we also requested -- spoke

11010
01:50:11,232 --> 01:50:11,731


11011
01:50:11,731 --> 01:50:14,134
about a pedestrians bridge ove

11012
01:50:14,134 --> 01:50:16,102
r

11013
01:50:16,102 --> 01:50:16,466
waldo road.

11014
01:50:16,466 --> 01:50:18,572
>> good afternoon, chase knigh

11015
01:50:18,572 --> 01:50:19,034
t

11016
01:50:19,034 --> 01:50:22,005
city engineer, based on their

11017
01:50:22,005 --> 01:50:22,005


11018
01:50:22,005 --> 01:50:24,143
review and analysis of the

11019
01:50:24,143 --> 01:50:27,312
corridor, like lana said, and

11020
01:50:27,312 --> 01:50:27,312


11021
01:50:27,312 --> 01:50:29,414
incorporating some of the

11022
01:50:29,414 --> 01:50:30,387
feedback they just spoke about,

11023
01:50:30,387 --> 01:50:30,816


11024
01:50:30,816 --> 01:50:33,424
they came up with options and

11025
01:50:33,424 --> 01:50:33,424


11026
01:50:33,424 --> 01:50:35,816
recommendations, staff

11027
01:50:35,816 --> 01:50:37,060
subsequently took those

11028
01:50:37,060 --> 01:50:39,829
recommended options to provide

11029
01:50:39,829 --> 01:50:44,892


11030
01:50:44,892 --> 01:50:46,035
information and feedback to the

11031
01:50:46,035 --> 01:50:46,194


11032
01:50:46,194 --> 01:50:46,194
community.

11033
01:50:46,194 --> 01:50:48,705
I do apologize, there's a typo

11034
01:50:48,705 --> 01:50:49,216


11035
01:50:49,216 --> 01:50:51,171
on the date for the last one, I

11036
01:50:51,171 --> 01:50:51,171
s

11037
01:50:51,171 --> 01:50:51,171
2026.

11038
01:50:51,171 --> 01:50:55,140
so I'll circle back later on I

11039
01:50:55,140 --> 01:50:55,183
n

11040
01:50:55,183 --> 01:50:56,407
the presentation, after you've

11041
01:50:56,407 --> 01:50:56,407


11042
01:50:56,407 --> 01:50:58,541
had a chance to see those

11043
01:50:58,541 --> 01:50:59,987
recommendations and summarize

11044
01:50:59,987 --> 01:50:59,987


11045
01:50:59,987 --> 01:51:00,984
what the feedback was at these

11046
01:51:00,984 --> 01:51:00,984


11047
01:51:00,984 --> 01:51:00,984
events.

11048
01:51:00,984 --> 01:51:08,991
>> so project overview, where w

11049
01:51:08,991 --> 01:51:08,991
e

11050
01:51:08,991 --> 01:51:11,287
are, what we're doing.

11051
01:51:11,287 --> 01:51:14,764
so part of our citizens field

11052
01:51:14,764 --> 01:51:14,764


11053
01:51:14,764 --> 01:51:15,986
site plan, we were tasked with

11054
01:51:15,986 --> 01:51:17,167


11055
01:51:17,167 --> 01:51:18,732
reviewing the street scapes

11056
01:51:18,732 --> 01:51:20,531
along eighth avenue and waldo

11057
01:51:20,531 --> 01:51:20,531


11058
01:51:20,531 --> 01:51:20,531
road.

11059
01:51:20,531 --> 01:51:22,530
our approach to this was using

11060
01:51:22,530 --> 01:51:23,068


11061
01:51:23,068 --> 01:51:24,105
something called complete

11062
01:51:24,105 --> 01:51:26,069
streets and a multimodal

11063
01:51:26,069 --> 01:51:26,069
approach.

11064
01:51:26,069 --> 01:51:27,703
that's a mouthful.

11065
01:51:27,703 --> 01:51:30,411
this approach focuses on makin

11066
01:51:30,411 --> 01:51:30,679
g

11067
01:51:30,679 --> 01:51:33,813
drive ways -- driving and

11068
01:51:33,813 --> 01:51:35,714
roadways safe for not only

11069
01:51:35,714 --> 01:51:38,023
drivers, but pedestrians,

11070
01:51:38,023 --> 01:51:41,799
cyclists, motorcyclists, and

11071
01:51:41,799 --> 01:51:43,031
even people using public

11072
01:51:43,031 --> 01:51:43,031
transit.

11073
01:51:43,031 --> 01:51:45,595
some examples of street scapes,

11074
01:51:45,595 --> 01:51:46,223


11075
01:51:46,223 --> 01:51:48,623
you'll see those zippers, green

11076
01:51:48,623 --> 01:51:48,763


11077
01:51:48,763 --> 01:51:51,565
bike line markings, adding bik

11078
01:51:51,565 --> 01:51:51,734
e

11079
01:51:51,734 --> 01:51:53,039
lanes, planting trees on

11080
01:51:53,039 --> 01:51:53,407
sidewalks for protection.

11081
01:51:53,407 --> 01:51:56,935
and shade.

11082
01:51:56,935 --> 01:51:59,732
you'll see flashing pedestrians

11083
01:51:59,732 --> 01:52:00,482


11084
01:52:00,482 --> 01:52:00,482
signs.

11085
01:52:00,482 --> 01:52:03,043
updating bus stops with those

11086
01:52:03,043 --> 01:52:03,043


11087
01:52:03,043 --> 01:52:05,885
shelters, so people are more

11088
01:52:05,885 --> 01:52:06,979
comfortable while they're

11089
01:52:06,979 --> 01:52:06,979
waiting.

11090
01:52:06,979 --> 01:52:09,983
we broke up the corridor.

11091
01:52:09,983 --> 01:52:12,619
our focus was really eighth

11092
01:52:12,619 --> 01:52:12,619
avenue.

11093
01:52:12,619 --> 01:52:15,325
that will be west of waldo and

11094
01:52:15,325 --> 01:52:15,655


11095
01:52:15,655 --> 01:52:16,549
east of waldo.

11096
01:52:16,549 --> 01:52:19,683
so west of waldo, we went from

11097
01:52:19,683 --> 01:52:19,683


11098
01:52:19,683 --> 01:52:22,762
the round about on 9th to waldo

11099
01:52:22,762 --> 01:52:23,075


11100
01:52:23,075 --> 01:52:23,075
road.

11101
01:52:23,075 --> 01:52:25,227
we shifted gears east of waldo,

11102
01:52:25,227 --> 01:52:26,027


11103
01:52:26,027 --> 01:52:29,173
we have from waldo road to

11104
01:52:29,173 --> 01:52:30,819
northeast 22nd street, that's

11105
01:52:30,819 --> 01:52:30,819


11106
01:52:30,819 --> 01:52:32,367
where our limits stopped.

11107
01:52:32,367 --> 01:52:34,689
and then city of gainesville

11108
01:52:34,689 --> 01:52:37,089
staff picked up on northeast

11109
01:52:37,089 --> 01:52:39,781
22nd all the way to lofton hig

11110
01:52:39,781 --> 01:52:40,135
h

11111
01:52:40,135 --> 01:52:40,135
school.

11112
01:52:40,135 --> 01:52:42,853
some existing conditions, what'

11113
01:52:42,853 --> 01:52:42,853
s

11114
01:52:42,853 --> 01:52:43,777
out there now.

11115
01:52:43,777 --> 01:52:47,583
west of waldo, you got a curb

11116
01:52:47,583 --> 01:52:47,583


11117
01:52:47,583 --> 01:52:49,525
and gutter section, have you

11118
01:52:49,525 --> 01:52:51,147
landscape medians throughout,

11119
01:52:51,147 --> 01:52:51,147


11120
01:52:51,147 --> 01:52:53,057
with nice planted trees and lef

11121
01:52:53,057 --> 01:52:53,057
t

11122
01:52:53,057 --> 01:52:55,265
turn lane openings, there's a 3

11123
01:52:55,265 --> 01:52:55,265
5

11124
01:52:55,265 --> 01:52:57,991
mile per hour speed limit, the

11125
01:52:57,991 --> 01:52:58,085


11126
01:52:58,085 --> 01:52:59,064
sidewalks are five feet on bot

11127
01:52:59,064 --> 01:52:59,695
h

11128
01:52:59,695 --> 01:53:03,599
sides, there are no bike lanes.

11129
01:53:03,599 --> 01:53:03,599


11130
01:53:03,599 --> 01:53:06,511
east of waldo, so for a segment

11131
01:53:06,511 --> 01:53:06,901


11132
01:53:06,901 --> 01:53:09,980
of it, waldo road to 22nd, hav

11133
01:53:09,980 --> 01:53:10,069
e

11134
01:53:10,069 --> 01:53:11,977
you a 30 mile per hour design

11135
01:53:11,977 --> 01:53:11,977


11136
01:53:11,977 --> 01:53:14,417
speed, it's a little lower, you

11137
01:53:14,417 --> 01:53:15,355


11138
01:53:15,355 --> 01:53:16,521
have five foot sidewalks as

11139
01:53:16,521 --> 01:53:19,317
well, no bike lanes, you have

11140
01:53:19,317 --> 01:53:19,317


11141
01:53:19,317 --> 01:53:21,191
really wide travel lanes, so

11142
01:53:21,191 --> 01:53:23,263
it's about 34 feet of total

11143
01:53:23,263 --> 01:53:27,761
pavement width, so 17 -- 16 1/2

11144
01:53:27,761 --> 01:53:27,897


11145
01:53:27,897 --> 01:53:28,662
foot travel lanes.

11146
01:53:28,662 --> 01:53:30,829
and then the segment that city

11147
01:53:30,829 --> 01:53:31,131


11148
01:53:31,131 --> 01:53:32,197
of gainesville staff worked on

11149
01:53:32,197 --> 01:53:32,897
,

11150
01:53:32,897 --> 01:53:37,835
that was northeast 22nd to

11151
01:53:37,835 --> 01:53:38,765
lofton high school.

11152
01:53:38,765 --> 01:53:40,708
the pavement varies, you have

11153
01:53:40,708 --> 01:53:40,708


11154
01:53:40,708 --> 01:53:43,005
curb and gutter for the first

11155
01:53:43,005 --> 01:53:43,005


11156
01:53:43,005 --> 01:53:45,217
segment, from 22nd street to

11157
01:53:45,217 --> 01:53:48,041
22nd terrace, and then you hav

11158
01:53:48,041 --> 01:53:48,295
e

11159
01:53:48,295 --> 01:53:49,681
those 34 feet of pavement.

11160
01:53:49,681 --> 01:53:52,043
from 22nd terrace to 25th

11161
01:53:52,043 --> 01:53:54,021
street, it narrows down to abo

11162
01:53:54,021 --> 01:53:54,021
ut

11163
01:53:54,021 --> 01:53:55,092
23 feet of pavement.

11164
01:53:55,092 --> 01:53:57,855
and then from 25th to lofton I

11165
01:53:57,855 --> 01:53:58,023
t

11166
01:53:58,023 --> 01:53:59,261
kind of widens a little bit, to

11167
01:53:59,261 --> 01:53:59,261


11168
01:53:59,261 --> 01:53:59,389
a foot.

11169
01:53:59,389 --> 01:54:03,799
also through here, 30 miles per

11170
01:54:03,799 --> 01:54:03,997


11171
01:54:03,997 --> 01:54:06,597
hour, with your five foot

11172
01:54:06,597 --> 01:54:06,597
sidewalk.

11173
01:54:06,597 --> 01:54:09,519
I'm an engineer, I like data t

11174
01:54:09,519 --> 01:54:10,367
o

11175
01:54:10,367 --> 01:54:11,464
inform my design decisions.

11176
01:54:11,464 --> 01:54:13,437
we pulled # some traffic data,

11177
01:54:13,437 --> 01:54:14,176


11178
01:54:14,176 --> 01:54:14,789
looked at how many cars were o

11179
01:54:14,789 --> 01:54:14,789
ut

11180
01:54:14,789 --> 01:54:14,789
there.

11181
01:54:14,789 --> 01:54:20,281
we had counts west of waldo,

11182
01:54:20,281 --> 01:54:22,479
east of waldo, we also had som

11183
01:54:22,479 --> 01:54:23,345
e

11184
01:54:23,345 --> 01:54:25,985
estimated geospatial data that

11185
01:54:25,985 --> 01:54:26,117


11186
01:54:26,117 --> 01:54:27,688
we worked with the traffic gro

11187
01:54:27,688 --> 01:54:27,688
up

11188
01:54:27,688 --> 01:54:29,459
to get those numbers, as you can

11189
01:54:29,459 --> 01:54:29,459


11190
01:54:29,459 --> 01:54:31,929
see for a local road that is

11191
01:54:31,929 --> 01:54:32,659
really truly a neighborhood.

11192
01:54:32,659 --> 01:54:34,559
there is a lot of traffic out

11193
01:54:34,559 --> 01:54:34,559


11194
01:54:34,559 --> 01:54:36,489
there, especially around

11195
01:54:36,489 --> 01:54:38,505
citizens field which was our

11196
01:54:38,505 --> 01:54:39,123
focus area.

11197
01:54:39,123 --> 01:54:41,729
you've got cyclists, so again

11198
01:54:41,729 --> 01:54:41,729


11199
01:54:41,729 --> 01:54:43,734
our focus area was around

11200
01:54:43,734 --> 01:54:44,939
citizens field, you have block

11201
01:54:44,939 --> 01:54:45,937
s

11202
01:54:45,937 --> 01:54:47,672
right there on eighth avenue

11203
01:54:47,672 --> 01:54:49,239
west of waldo, a lot of bikes,

11204
01:54:49,239 --> 01:54:49,840
a

11205
01:54:49,840 --> 01:54:53,245
lot of pedestrians going throu

11206
01:54:53,245 --> 01:54:53,245
gh

11207
01:54:53,245 --> 01:54:53,245
there.

11208
01:54:53,245 --> 01:54:55,749
like I mentioned, 35 miles per

11209
01:54:55,749 --> 01:54:56,016


11210
01:54:56,016 --> 01:54:59,556
hour west of waldo, 35 miles p

11211
01:54:59,556 --> 01:54:59,556
er

11212
01:54:59,556 --> 01:55:00,481
hour east of waldo.

11213
01:55:00,481 --> 01:55:03,185
you can see west of waldo,

11214
01:55:03,185 --> 01:55:07,020
people pretty go at 32.5 miles

11215
01:55:07,020 --> 01:55:07,112


11216
01:55:07,112 --> 01:55:08,157
an hour, they're following the

11217
01:55:08,157 --> 01:55:08,325


11218
01:55:08,325 --> 01:55:08,596
speed limit.

11219
01:55:08,596 --> 01:55:11,834
east of waldo is where we

11220
01:55:11,834 --> 01:55:14,027
noticed -- we start to see an

11221
01:55:14,027 --> 01:55:14,027


11222
01:55:14,027 --> 01:55:15,600
uptick in speed, they're going

11223
01:55:15,600 --> 01:55:15,828


11224
01:55:15,828 --> 01:55:16,763
about 38 miles per hour.

11225
01:55:16,763 --> 01:55:19,040
and then the city of gainesvil

11226
01:55:19,040 --> 01:55:19,040
le

11227
01:55:19,040 --> 01:55:26,110
segment, which is 22nd to

11228
01:55:26,110 --> 01:55:28,666
loften, it drops to 26, what

11229
01:55:28,666 --> 01:55:29,428
people are driving out there

11230
01:55:29,428 --> 01:55:29,711
where it narrows.

11231
01:55:29,711 --> 01:55:36,184
my least favorite part of the

11232
01:55:36,184 --> 01:55:36,184


11233
01:55:36,184 --> 01:55:37,719
data is the crash history, so w

11234
01:55:37,719 --> 01:55:37,719
e

11235
01:55:37,719 --> 01:55:40,634
did a five-year crash analysis.

11236
01:55:40,634 --> 01:55:40,634


11237
01:55:40,634 --> 01:55:44,640
this is from january 2020 to

11238
01:55:44,640 --> 01:55:45,230
december 24.

11239
01:55:45,230 --> 01:55:48,507
75 crashes, which may not seem

11240
01:55:48,507 --> 01:55:48,670


11241
01:55:48,670 --> 01:55:50,434
like a lot in five years, but I

11242
01:55:50,434 --> 01:55:50,434
t

11243
01:55:50,434 --> 01:55:50,434
is.

11244
01:55:50,434 --> 01:55:52,480
you're going through a local

11245
01:55:52,480 --> 01:55:53,268
road, a neighborhood.

11246
01:55:53,268 --> 01:55:56,742
that's about one crash a month.

11247
01:55:56,742 --> 01:55:56,742


11248
01:55:56,742 --> 01:55:59,124
there were no fatalities which

11249
01:55:59,124 --> 01:55:59,272


11250
01:55:59,272 --> 01:56:00,706
was great, but there were four

11251
01:56:00,706 --> 01:56:00,706


11252
01:56:00,706 --> 01:56:02,510
that resulted in a serious

11253
01:56:02,510 --> 01:56:05,248
injury, and six that included

11254
01:56:05,248 --> 01:56:05,248


11255
01:56:05,248 --> 01:56:07,420
bicyclists, pedestrians or

11256
01:56:07,420 --> 01:56:07,420
motorcycles.

11257
01:56:07,420 --> 01:56:09,262
ultimately our goal is to make

11258
01:56:09,262 --> 01:56:09,554


11259
01:56:09,554 --> 01:56:11,522
the streets safe, especially f

11260
01:56:11,522 --> 01:56:11,522
or

11261
01:56:11,522 --> 01:56:13,852
vulnerable users like

11262
01:56:13,852 --> 01:56:14,251
pedestrians and cyclists.

11263
01:56:14,251 --> 01:56:17,848
so using this data, we came up

11264
01:56:17,848 --> 01:56:17,948


11265
01:56:17,948 --> 01:56:18,164
with some options.

11266
01:56:18,164 --> 01:56:25,276
our first option here, this is

11267
01:56:25,276 --> 01:56:25,572


11268
01:56:25,572 --> 01:56:27,536
going to be west of waldo road.

11269
01:56:27,536 --> 01:56:27,536


11270
01:56:27,536 --> 01:56:30,876
the curb and gutter position

11271
01:56:30,876 --> 01:56:31,640
with the medians.

11272
01:56:31,640 --> 01:56:34,294
we're proposing maintaining the

11273
01:56:34,294 --> 01:56:35,114


11274
01:56:35,114 --> 01:56:36,487
existing curbline, maybe

11275
01:56:36,487 --> 01:56:37,846
enhancing them a little bit.

11276
01:56:37,846 --> 01:56:41,158
but we'd like to say let's add

11277
01:56:41,158 --> 01:56:41,658
a

11278
01:56:41,658 --> 01:56:44,124
10-foot shared use path on the

11279
01:56:44,124 --> 01:56:44,354


11280
01:56:44,354 --> 01:56:45,494
north side of the road, and kee

11281
01:56:45,494 --> 01:56:45,494
p

11282
01:56:45,494 --> 01:56:47,191
the existing sidewalk on the

11283
01:56:47,191 --> 01:56:47,191
other.

11284
01:56:47,191 --> 01:56:52,026
this gives an option for maybe

11285
01:56:52,026 --> 01:56:53,760


11286
01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:54,835
cyclists like maybe families o

11287
01:56:54,835 --> 01:56:55,402
n

11288
01:56:55,402 --> 01:56:56,892
bikes that don't necessarily

11289
01:56:56,892 --> 01:56:58,242
feel comfortable riding on the

11290
01:56:58,242 --> 01:56:58,570


11291
01:56:58,570 --> 01:56:58,570
road.

11292
01:56:58,570 --> 01:57:01,486
this makes room for two-way

11293
01:57:01,486 --> 01:57:02,846
traffic on bikes, and it reall

11294
01:57:02,846 --> 01:57:03,272
y

11295
01:57:03,272 --> 01:57:05,003
makes it a gateway to citizens

11296
01:57:05,003 --> 01:57:05,336


11297
01:57:05,336 --> 01:57:05,336
field.

11298
01:57:05,336 --> 01:57:07,640
total estimated cost for just

11299
01:57:07,640 --> 01:57:07,640


11300
01:57:07,640 --> 01:57:09,184
the resurfacing, and restriping

11301
01:57:09,184 --> 01:57:09,184
,

11302
01:57:09,184 --> 01:57:12,114
no path, came out to about

11303
01:57:12,114 --> 01:57:12,114
$900,000.

11304
01:57:12,114 --> 01:57:14,718
and to add the path on the nor

11305
01:57:14,718 --> 01:57:14,718
th

11306
01:57:14,718 --> 01:57:18,356
was an additional 800,000.

11307
01:57:18,356 --> 01:57:22,492
option 2 for west of waldo, thi

11308
01:57:22,492 --> 01:57:22,492
s

11309
01:57:22,492 --> 01:57:24,236
is complete redesign of the

11310
01:57:24,236 --> 01:57:26,096
typical section, you have your

11311
01:57:26,096 --> 01:57:26,362


11312
01:57:26,362 --> 01:57:27,504
curb and gutter section, you'r

11313
01:57:27,504 --> 01:57:28,362
e

11314
01:57:28,362 --> 01:57:29,933
taking out those land scape

11315
01:57:29,933 --> 01:57:32,230
medians and putting in bike

11316
01:57:32,230 --> 01:57:32,230
lanes.

11317
01:57:32,230 --> 01:57:34,190
you would have to reconstruct

11318
01:57:34,190 --> 01:57:34,190


11319
01:57:34,190 --> 01:57:36,774
the road under the medians, you

11320
01:57:36,774 --> 01:57:36,968


11321
01:57:36,968 --> 01:57:37,606
would add striping.

11322
01:57:37,606 --> 01:57:39,944
we do like the idea of the

11323
01:57:39,944 --> 01:57:41,348
protected bike lanes, whether

11324
01:57:41,348 --> 01:57:41,348


11325
01:57:41,348 --> 01:57:42,776
that's with zippers or striping,

11326
01:57:42,776 --> 01:57:42,776


11327
01:57:42,776 --> 01:57:45,386
and particularly using that

11328
01:57:45,386 --> 01:57:46,594
green pavement marking.

11329
01:57:46,594 --> 01:57:49,600
that bike lane would be 4 1/2

11330
01:57:49,600 --> 01:57:49,600


11331
01:57:49,600 --> 01:57:49,600
feet.

11332
01:57:49,600 --> 01:57:52,624
and we would propose that share

11333
01:57:52,624 --> 01:57:52,624
d

11334
01:57:52,624 --> 01:57:53,096
use path.

11335
01:57:53,096 --> 01:57:55,422
total cost without the path

11336
01:57:55,422 --> 01:57:58,266
would be 1.6 million.

11337
01:57:58,266 --> 01:58:00,708
with the path with be an

11338
01:58:00,708 --> 01:58:01,048
additional 100,000.

11339
01:58:01,048 --> 01:58:03,676
now we're shifting gears, we're

11340
01:58:03,676 --> 01:58:03,939


11341
01:58:03,939 --> 01:58:07,808
on the other side of waldo roa

11342
01:58:07,808 --> 01:58:08,004
d

11343
01:58:08,004 --> 01:58:08,004
now.

11344
01:58:08,004 --> 01:58:13,280
still a curb and gutter section

11345
01:58:13,280 --> 01:58:13,502


11346
01:58:13,502 --> 01:58:14,138
with the stripings.

11347
01:58:14,138 --> 01:58:17,282
we're going to restripe it to

11348
01:58:17,282 --> 01:58:17,282


11349
01:58:17,282 --> 01:58:19,090
add the protected bike lanes

11350
01:58:19,090 --> 01:58:20,618
with the zippers and potential

11351
01:58:20,618 --> 01:58:20,618
ly

11352
01:58:20,618 --> 01:58:23,355
add a shared use path on the

11353
01:58:23,355 --> 01:58:25,084
north or south side of the road

11354
01:58:25,084 --> 01:58:25,084
.

11355
01:58:25,084 --> 01:58:27,158
currently there's no shared use

11356
01:58:27,158 --> 01:58:27,486


11357
01:58:27,486 --> 01:58:29,588
path, it's just sidewalks.

11358
01:58:29,588 --> 01:58:31,328
so some challenges with that.

11359
01:58:31,328 --> 01:58:34,436
right now on this portion of

11360
01:58:34,436 --> 01:58:37,104
eighth, we have really mature,

11361
01:58:37,104 --> 01:58:37,432


11362
01:58:37,432 --> 01:58:38,934
beautiful large trees on the

11363
01:58:38,934 --> 01:58:39,608
north side of the road.

11364
01:58:39,608 --> 01:58:41,742
and on the south side of the

11365
01:58:41,742 --> 01:58:43,712
road, you have a lot of overhe

11366
01:58:43,712 --> 01:58:43,712
ad

11367
01:58:43,712 --> 01:58:48,213
utilities, so if you were to

11368
01:58:48,213 --> 01:58:49,782
just do the path -- if you were

11369
01:58:49,782 --> 01:58:49,974


11370
01:58:49,974 --> 01:58:51,754
just to do the road, resurface

11371
01:58:51,754 --> 01:58:51,952


11372
01:58:51,952 --> 01:58:54,422
the road, restripe it and add

11373
01:58:54,422 --> 01:58:54,422


11374
01:58:54,422 --> 01:58:56,492
the bike lanes, that would be

11375
01:58:56,492 --> 01:58:56,492


11376
01:58:56,492 --> 01:58:57,100
1.9 million.

11377
01:58:57,100 --> 01:58:59,420
for the traffic calming, you

11378
01:58:59,420 --> 01:59:00,662
have your raised intersections

11379
01:59:00,662 --> 01:59:00,915


11380
01:59:00,915 --> 01:59:02,938
and enhanced crosswalks, that

11381
01:59:02,938 --> 01:59:02,938


11382
01:59:02,938 --> 01:59:04,768
would be an additional 1.7

11383
01:59:04,768 --> 01:59:04,768
million.

11384
01:59:04,768 --> 01:59:07,514
if you were to take out those

11385
01:59:07,514 --> 01:59:07,514


11386
01:59:07,514 --> 01:59:08,995
trees which add a lot of

11387
01:59:08,995 --> 01:59:09,964
character to the neighborhood.

11388
01:59:09,964 --> 01:59:09,964


11389
01:59:09,964 --> 01:59:11,478
add shading and protection to

11390
01:59:11,478 --> 01:59:11,478


11391
01:59:11,478 --> 01:59:12,426
the sidewalk, that's going to

11392
01:59:12,426 --> 01:59:12,426
be

11393
01:59:12,426 --> 01:59:15,340
an additional 1.3 million.

11394
01:59:15,340 --> 01:59:17,414
on the other side, in order to

11395
01:59:17,414 --> 01:59:17,658


11396
01:59:17,658 --> 01:59:19,028
underground the utilities, add

11397
01:59:19,028 --> 01:59:19,604


11398
01:59:19,604 --> 01:59:21,339
lighting and add other

11399
01:59:21,339 --> 01:59:22,810
utilities, that would be an

11400
01:59:22,810 --> 01:59:23,374
additional $3 million.

11401
01:59:23,374 --> 01:59:25,562
some of these, you start to --

11402
01:59:25,562 --> 01:59:25,758
I

11403
01:59:25,758 --> 01:59:27,750
tried to make it modular, so w

11404
01:59:27,750 --> 01:59:27,886
e

11405
01:59:27,886 --> 01:59:31,488
could look at it in sections.

11406
01:59:31,488 --> 01:59:34,523
here's option two.

11407
01:59:34,523 --> 01:59:37,222
we would still maintain the

11408
01:59:37,222 --> 01:59:37,844
existing curbline.

11409
01:59:37,844 --> 01:59:39,858
we don't want to widen the road

11410
01:59:39,858 --> 01:59:39,858
,

11411
01:59:39,858 --> 01:59:41,635
there's not a lot of room out

11412
01:59:41,635 --> 01:59:41,635


11413
01:59:41,635 --> 01:59:41,635
there.

11414
01:59:41,635 --> 01:59:43,944
we don't want to reconstruct

11415
01:59:43,944 --> 01:59:43,944
things.

11416
01:59:43,944 --> 01:59:46,202
we're trying to use what we

11417
01:59:46,202 --> 01:59:46,202
have.

11418
01:59:46,202 --> 01:59:48,836
here we're proposing two new

11419
01:59:48,836 --> 01:59:50,276
landscape medians, there's onl

11420
01:59:50,276 --> 01:59:50,506
y

11421
01:59:50,506 --> 01:59:51,714
two locations along the projec

11422
01:59:51,714 --> 01:59:51,714
t.

11423
01:59:51,714 --> 01:59:54,244
I have a slide later so becan

11424
01:59:54,244 --> 01:59:54,244


11425
01:59:54,244 --> 01:59:55,420
talk about the openings.

11426
01:59:55,420 --> 01:59:56,893
there's only two locations whe

11427
01:59:56,893 --> 01:59:56,893
re

11428
01:59:56,893 --> 01:59:59,183
we can add some landscape

11429
01:59:59,183 --> 02:00:00,622
medians and a center turn lane

11430
02:00:00,622 --> 02:00:00,622
.

11431
02:00:00,622 --> 02:00:02,988
we can add a shared use path o

11432
02:00:02,988 --> 02:00:03,220
n

11433
02:00:03,220 --> 02:00:04,919
the north, south or no path at

11434
02:00:04,919 --> 02:00:05,320


11435
02:00:05,320 --> 02:00:05,320
all.

11436
02:00:05,320 --> 02:00:07,955
that breakdown kind of

11437
02:00:07,955 --> 02:00:08,856
discussing those mature trees,

11438
02:00:08,856 --> 02:00:09,257


11439
02:00:09,257 --> 02:00:11,256
the utilities and how that's

11440
02:00:11,256 --> 02:00:11,769
broken down with the additional

11441
02:00:11,769 --> 02:00:11,950


11442
02:00:11,950 --> 02:00:11,950
cost

11443
02:00:11,950 --> 02:00:19,200
so northeast 22nd.

11444
02:00:19,200 --> 02:00:22,272
waldo to northeast 22nd, we hav

11445
02:00:22,272 --> 02:00:22,272
e

11446
02:00:22,272 --> 02:00:23,710
our proposed option 3.

11447
02:00:23,710 --> 02:00:24,534
this is everything.

11448
02:00:24,534 --> 02:00:27,470
how do we go through and add

11449
02:00:27,470 --> 02:00:28,086
everything we can.

11450
02:00:28,086 --> 02:00:32,950
we started with maintaining the

11451
02:00:32,950 --> 02:00:33,382


11452
02:00:33,382 --> 02:00:33,737
existing sidewalks.

11453
02:00:33,737 --> 02:00:37,616
providing two more narrow

11454
02:00:37,616 --> 02:00:39,220
medians, it wouldn't necessarily

11455
02:00:39,220 --> 02:00:39,220


11456
02:00:39,220 --> 02:00:41,124
meet that turn lane width, it

11457
02:00:41,124 --> 02:00:41,124


11458
02:00:41,124 --> 02:00:42,455
would be a little more narrow.

11459
02:00:42,455 --> 02:00:42,455


11460
02:00:42,455 --> 02:00:44,292
and then you have -- you would

11461
02:00:44,292 --> 02:00:44,822


11462
02:00:44,822 --> 02:00:46,128
utilize the curb and gutter to

11463
02:00:46,128 --> 02:00:46,662


11464
02:00:46,662 --> 02:00:48,567
get a five foot bike lane, and

11465
02:00:48,567 --> 02:00:48,694


11466
02:00:48,694 --> 02:00:50,432
the travel lanes would be more

11467
02:00:50,432 --> 02:00:51,164


11468
02:00:51,164 --> 02:00:52,867
narrow, 10 feet instead of 11

11469
02:00:52,867 --> 02:00:52,867


11470
02:00:52,867 --> 02:00:54,580
feet, like on the other side o

11471
02:00:54,580 --> 02:00:55,473
f

11472
02:00:55,473 --> 02:00:55,928
waldo road.

11473
02:00:55,928 --> 02:01:00,026
same thing here, we broke it

11474
02:01:00,026 --> 02:01:00,026
down.

11475
02:01:00,026 --> 02:01:01,914
without the path, that would b

11476
02:01:01,914 --> 02:01:02,296
e

11477
02:01:02,296 --> 02:01:04,914
2.1 million, to add in those

11478
02:01:04,914 --> 02:01:07,452
landscape medians, add in those

11479
02:01:07,452 --> 02:01:07,610


11480
02:01:07,610 --> 02:01:08,486
raised intersections, and

11481
02:01:08,486 --> 02:01:09,850
whether we put the path on the

11482
02:01:09,850 --> 02:01:09,982


11483
02:01:09,982 --> 02:01:11,019
north or south, or whether we

11484
02:01:11,019 --> 02:01:11,019


11485
02:01:11,019 --> 02:01:11,302
don't at all.

11486
02:01:11,302 --> 02:01:14,188
so this was that breakdown I w

11487
02:01:14,188 --> 02:01:14,188
as

11488
02:01:14,188 --> 02:01:17,458
talking about earlier with the

11489
02:01:17,458 --> 02:01:18,530


11490
02:01:18,530 --> 02:01:20,632
median openings, so when we

11491
02:01:20,632 --> 02:01:22,298
looked at the -- all the drive

11492
02:01:22,298 --> 02:01:22,435


11493
02:01:22,435 --> 02:01:24,638
way entrances and side street

11494
02:01:24,638 --> 02:01:24,638


11495
02:01:24,638 --> 02:01:25,834
entrances, you can see there's

11496
02:01:25,834 --> 02:01:26,006
a

11497
02:01:26,006 --> 02:01:27,570
ton along that road.

11498
02:01:27,570 --> 02:01:30,510
it's a lot of -- there's not a

11499
02:01:30,510 --> 02:01:30,778


11500
02:01:30,778 --> 02:01:32,576
lot of opportunity to put in n

11501
02:01:32,576 --> 02:01:32,576
ew

11502
02:01:32,576 --> 02:01:35,138
medians without blocking

11503
02:01:35,138 --> 02:01:37,214
someone's access, and our goal

11504
02:01:37,214 --> 02:01:37,354


11505
02:01:37,354 --> 02:01:39,178
was to not impact any access for

11506
02:01:39,178 --> 02:01:39,178


11507
02:01:39,178 --> 02:01:41,122
homes, churches, businesses,

11508
02:01:41,122 --> 02:01:49,086
anything along this road.

11509
02:01:49,086 --> 02:01:51,880
>> it looks like we may have a

11510
02:01:51,880 --> 02:01:52,022


11511
02:01:52,022 --> 02:01:53,250
little formatting issue here.

11512
02:01:53,250 --> 02:01:55,096
I apologize for that.

11513
02:01:55,096 --> 02:01:59,004
these next three slides really

11514
02:01:59,004 --> 02:01:59,432


11515
02:01:59,432 --> 02:02:02,272
represent one overall option

11516
02:02:02,272 --> 02:02:03,276
broken into three mini-segment

11517
02:02:03,276 --> 02:02:03,276
s.

11518
02:02:03,276 --> 02:02:06,714
overall, we're looking at

11519
02:02:06,714 --> 02:02:08,638
northeast 22nd street to the

11520
02:02:08,638 --> 02:02:09,776
school property line or the end

11521
02:02:09,776 --> 02:02:09,874


11522
02:02:09,874 --> 02:02:11,746
of the road, as I call it.

11523
02:02:11,746 --> 02:02:14,402
so that total estimated cost I

11524
02:02:14,402 --> 02:02:14,746
s

11525
02:02:14,746 --> 02:02:17,090
$2.1 million, so that

11526
02:02:17,090 --> 02:02:18,400
encompasses all three here, not

11527
02:02:18,400 --> 02:02:18,634


11528
02:02:18,634 --> 02:02:20,316
each slide that we're looking

11529
02:02:20,316 --> 02:02:20,316


11530
02:02:20,316 --> 02:02:20,316
at.

11531
02:02:20,316 --> 02:02:23,556
the first portion here continu

11532
02:02:23,556 --> 02:02:23,556
es

11533
02:02:23,556 --> 02:02:27,094
from northeast 22nd street to

11534
02:02:27,094 --> 02:02:27,094


11535
02:02:27,094 --> 02:02:30,262
22nd terrace, where there is t

11536
02:02:30,262 --> 02:02:30,262
he

11537
02:02:30,262 --> 02:02:32,732
section that continues from tha

11538
02:02:32,732 --> 02:02:32,732
t

11539
02:02:32,732 --> 02:02:34,618
previous section.

11540
02:02:34,618 --> 02:02:36,770
really, this one would just be

11541
02:02:36,770 --> 02:02:37,172


11542
02:02:37,172 --> 02:02:39,347
matching the proposed option

11543
02:02:39,347 --> 02:02:41,446
one, and continuing the

11544
02:02:41,446 --> 02:02:43,444
protected bike lanes, through

11545
02:02:43,444 --> 02:02:43,444


11546
02:02:43,444 --> 02:02:44,920
the end of the curb section at

11547
02:02:44,920 --> 02:02:44,920


11548
02:02:44,920 --> 02:02:45,912
22nd terrace.

11549
02:02:45,912 --> 02:02:50,060
once we get past 22nd terrace,

11550
02:02:50,060 --> 02:02:51,127


11551
02:02:51,127 --> 02:02:53,232
we move into a narrower, overal

11552
02:02:53,232 --> 02:02:53,232
l

11553
02:02:53,232 --> 02:02:55,826
narrower pavement with no curb

11554
02:02:55,826 --> 02:02:55,992


11555
02:02:55,992 --> 02:02:56,892
and gutter.

11556
02:02:56,892 --> 02:03:01,602
and the proposal here is to kee

11557
02:03:01,602 --> 02:03:01,602


11558
02:03:01,602 --> 02:03:03,760
that pavement and add a multiu

11559
02:03:03,760 --> 02:03:03,760
se

11560
02:03:03,760 --> 02:03:09,402
path on the north side of the

11561
02:03:09,402 --> 02:03:09,402


11562
02:03:09,402 --> 02:03:09,402
road.

11563
02:03:09,402 --> 02:03:11,816
as we move past northeast 25th

11564
02:03:11,816 --> 02:03:12,408


11565
02:03:12,408 --> 02:03:13,810
street, going toward the end o

11566
02:03:13,810 --> 02:03:13,854
f

11567
02:03:13,854 --> 02:03:18,614
the road, similarly, the

11568
02:03:18,614 --> 02:03:20,344
pavement would remain in

11569
02:03:20,344 --> 02:03:22,011
existence, and be resurfaced.

11570
02:03:22,011 --> 02:03:27,358
and then the ten foot multiuse

11571
02:03:27,358 --> 02:03:27,864


11572
02:03:27,864 --> 02:03:29,997
path would switch over to the

11573
02:03:29,997 --> 02:03:29,997


11574
02:03:29,997 --> 02:03:33,510
south side of the road due to

11575
02:03:33,510 --> 02:03:33,510


11576
02:03:33,510 --> 02:03:36,631
the alignment of the ditch which

11577
02:03:36,631 --> 02:03:36,631


11578
02:03:36,631 --> 02:03:38,255
is part of the creek system on

11579
02:03:38,255 --> 02:03:38,255


11580
02:03:38,255 --> 02:03:38,726
the north side of the roadway.

11581
02:03:38,726 --> 02:03:38,726


11582
02:03:38,726 --> 02:03:48,482
>> based on all that, we have

11583
02:03:48,482 --> 02:03:48,482


11584
02:03:48,482 --> 02:03:53,119
our proposed recommendations, s

11585
02:03:53,119 --> 02:03:53,119
o

11586
02:03:53,119 --> 02:03:55,820
we propose option 1 for west o

11587
02:03:55,820 --> 02:03:56,288
f

11588
02:03:56,288 --> 02:03:58,182
waldo, so this would be

11589
02:03:58,182 --> 02:03:59,888
maintaining that existing

11590
02:03:59,888 --> 02:04:01,190
curbline in the landscape

11591
02:04:01,190 --> 02:04:04,369
medians, and adding a 10-foot

11592
02:04:04,369 --> 02:04:04,369


11593
02:04:04,369 --> 02:04:05,698
shared use path on the north

11594
02:04:05,698 --> 02:04:08,140
side of the road and keep the

11595
02:04:08,140 --> 02:04:08,140


11596
02:04:08,140 --> 02:04:08,948
existing sidewalk on the other.

11597
02:04:08,948 --> 02:04:08,948


11598
02:04:08,948 --> 02:04:12,430
this will be a total existing

11599
02:04:12,430 --> 02:04:12,430


11600
02:04:12,430 --> 02:04:15,804
cost of 1.7 million.

11601
02:04:15,804 --> 02:04:19,408
for waldo road to 27th street,

11602
02:04:19,408 --> 02:04:19,912


11603
02:04:19,912 --> 02:04:24,077
we recommend maintaining

11604
02:04:24,077 --> 02:04:26,725
existing curbline and we do not

11605
02:04:26,725 --> 02:04:27,076


11606
02:04:27,076 --> 02:04:29,383
propose put youing in a shared

11607
02:04:29,383 --> 02:04:29,765


11608
02:04:29,765 --> 02:04:31,492
use path because of those trees

11609
02:04:31,492 --> 02:04:31,653


11610
02:04:31,653 --> 02:04:32,896
and overhead utilities.

11611
02:04:32,896 --> 02:04:35,023
that would come to an estimated

11612
02:04:35,023 --> 02:04:35,336


11613
02:04:35,336 --> 02:04:36,558
cost of 3.6 million.

11614
02:04:36,558 --> 02:04:40,323
>> going back to the section

11615
02:04:40,323 --> 02:04:42,866
east of 22nd street to the

11616
02:04:42,866 --> 02:04:45,863
school to losten school, the

11617
02:04:45,863 --> 02:04:48,305
property line, that is the sam

11618
02:04:48,305 --> 02:04:48,738
e

11619
02:04:48,738 --> 02:04:50,011
recommended option broken into

11620
02:04:50,011 --> 02:04:50,410


11621
02:04:50,410 --> 02:04:52,407
the three sections at a total

11622
02:04:52,407 --> 02:04:52,407


11623
02:04:52,407 --> 02:04:56,993
cost of 2.1 million.

11624
02:04:56,993 --> 02:04:58,986
>> some other recommendations

11625
02:04:58,986 --> 02:04:58,986


11626
02:04:58,986 --> 02:05:00,248
are some pedestrians

11627
02:05:00,248 --> 02:05:02,652
improvements, especially at som

11628
02:05:02,652 --> 02:05:02,652
e

11629
02:05:02,652 --> 02:05:04,000
mid block crossings.

11630
02:05:04,000 --> 02:05:06,116
>> mayor: commissioner duncan

11631
02:05:06,116 --> 02:05:06,116


11632
02:05:06,116 --> 02:05:07,691
walker, did you want to ask now

11633
02:05:07,691 --> 02:05:07,691


11634
02:05:07,691 --> 02:05:08,088
or later?

11635
02:05:08,088 --> 02:05:09,169
>> no.

11636
02:05:09,169 --> 02:05:09,785
>> mayor: go ahead.

11637
02:05:09,785 --> 02:05:13,056
>> some examples of that are

11638
02:05:13,056 --> 02:05:16,325
going to be your rectangular

11639
02:05:16,325 --> 02:05:18,154
flashing beacons.

11640
02:05:18,154 --> 02:05:20,482
your fluorescent crosswalksign

11641
02:05:20,482 --> 02:05:20,482
s

11642
02:05:20,482 --> 02:05:26,244
with flashing beacons.

11643
02:05:26,244 --> 02:05:27,972
they flash, people stop, you can

11644
02:05:27,972 --> 02:05:27,972


11645
02:05:27,972 --> 02:05:27,972
cross.

11646
02:05:27,972 --> 02:05:35,918
we're suggesting raised median

11647
02:05:35,918 --> 02:05:35,918
s.

11648
02:05:35,918 --> 02:05:38,561
it provides extra safety for

11649
02:05:38,561 --> 02:05:40,058
pedestrians, and traffic calmi

11650
02:05:40,058 --> 02:05:40,058
ng

11651
02:05:40,058 --> 02:05:41,919
for those people that are

11652
02:05:41,919 --> 02:05:41,919
speeding.

11653
02:05:41,919 --> 02:05:47,862
>> there are two designs alrea

11654
02:05:47,862 --> 02:05:47,862
dy

11655
02:05:47,862 --> 02:05:49,912
in progress, at northeast 11th

11656
02:05:49,912 --> 02:05:51,436


11657
02:05:51,436 --> 02:05:53,770
terrace, and in between 13th a

11658
02:05:53,770 --> 02:05:53,770
nd

11659
02:05:53,770 --> 02:05:56,153
14th which is right around

11660
02:05:56,153 --> 02:06:00,337
citizens field and the fire

11661
02:06:00,337 --> 02:06:00,847
station location.

11662
02:06:00,847 --> 02:06:04,206
east of waldo road, we have a

11663
02:06:04,206 --> 02:06:04,206


11664
02:06:04,206 --> 02:06:05,408
couple mid block crossings,

11665
02:06:05,408 --> 02:06:07,211
which will be your rapid

11666
02:06:07,211 --> 02:06:08,784
flashing beacons, and we have a

11667
02:06:08,784 --> 02:06:09,247


11668
02:06:09,247 --> 02:06:10,083
couple raised intersections.

11669
02:06:10,083 --> 02:06:16,691
this would be at 15th, 17th

11670
02:06:16,691 --> 02:06:18,131
street, 19th terrace, which wil

11671
02:06:18,131 --> 02:06:18,131
l

11672
02:06:18,131 --> 02:06:19,629
be a raised intersection.

11673
02:06:19,629 --> 02:06:21,331
and 22nd street, which be a

11674
02:06:21,331 --> 02:06:21,592
raised intersection.

11675
02:06:21,592 --> 02:06:26,534
and then two mid block

11676
02:06:26,534 --> 02:06:27,740
crossings, which already exist

11677
02:06:27,740 --> 02:06:28,145


11678
02:06:28,145 --> 02:06:31,472
would be your rapid beacons.

11679
02:06:31,472 --> 02:06:34,585
we also coordinated with rts t

11680
02:06:34,585 --> 02:06:34,881
o

11681
02:06:34,881 --> 02:06:36,618
see if they were doing any

11682
02:06:36,618 --> 02:06:37,382
improvements through here based

11683
02:06:37,382 --> 02:06:37,646


11684
02:06:37,646 --> 02:06:38,825
on ridership.

11685
02:06:38,825 --> 02:06:41,581
they are planning ada

11686
02:06:41,581 --> 02:06:44,161
improvements at six bus stops o

11687
02:06:44,161 --> 02:06:44,161
n

11688
02:06:44,161 --> 02:06:45,963
eighth avenue, these costs wer

11689
02:06:45,963 --> 02:06:46,115
e

11690
02:06:46,115 --> 02:06:47,951
not included add part of our

11691
02:06:47,951 --> 02:06:47,951
scope.

11692
02:06:47,951 --> 02:06:51,167
they are also doing an

11693
02:06:51,167 --> 02:06:51,967
improvement to the mid block

11694
02:06:51,967 --> 02:06:52,326
crossing at waldo road.

11695
02:06:52,326 --> 02:06:59,635
>> so we've looked at the

11696
02:06:59,635 --> 02:07:01,399
recommended options and what

11697
02:07:01,399 --> 02:07:05,637
this slide does is total those

11698
02:07:05,637 --> 02:07:06,345


11699
02:07:06,345 --> 02:07:08,014
recommendations for the portion

11700
02:07:08,014 --> 02:07:08,195


11701
02:07:08,195 --> 02:07:13,511
between waldo road and loften

11702
02:07:13,511 --> 02:07:13,511


11703
02:07:13,511 --> 02:07:13,511
school.

11704
02:07:13,511 --> 02:07:15,482
that estimate is $5.7 million,

11705
02:07:15,482 --> 02:07:15,827


11706
02:07:15,827 --> 02:07:17,686
that would be the resurfacing

11707
02:07:17,686 --> 02:07:17,686


11708
02:07:17,686 --> 02:07:20,725
project, plus the recommended

11709
02:07:20,725 --> 02:07:20,725


11710
02:07:20,725 --> 02:07:22,923
improvements that we are

11711
02:07:22,923 --> 02:07:23,833
proposing to move forward with

11712
02:07:23,833 --> 02:07:23,833
.

11713
02:07:23,833 --> 02:07:26,395
and as promised, I wanted to g

11714
02:07:26,395 --> 02:07:26,529
o

11715
02:07:26,529 --> 02:07:28,826
back to this slide while I

11716
02:07:28,826 --> 02:07:30,081
discuss some of the feedback

11717
02:07:30,081 --> 02:07:31,677
that we got on the recommended

11718
02:07:31,677 --> 02:07:34,197


11719
02:07:34,197 --> 02:07:34,197
options.

11720
02:07:34,197 --> 02:07:36,209
so first was discussion on

11721
02:07:36,209 --> 02:07:36,209
speeding.

11722
02:07:36,209 --> 02:07:38,437
there were neighbors present a

11723
02:07:38,437 --> 02:07:39,639
t

11724
02:07:39,639 --> 02:07:41,381
the meetings that didn't

11725
02:07:41,381 --> 02:07:42,041
necessarily feel that speeding

11726
02:07:42,041 --> 02:07:42,309


11727
02:07:42,309 --> 02:07:42,838
was a concern.

11728
02:07:42,838 --> 02:07:45,544
we did reiterate the data that

11729
02:07:45,544 --> 02:07:45,813


11730
02:07:45,813 --> 02:07:49,349
we have, that shows that there

11731
02:07:49,349 --> 02:07:49,483


11732
02:07:49,483 --> 02:07:51,451
is an increase speed along tha

11733
02:07:51,451 --> 02:07:51,585
t

11734
02:07:51,585 --> 02:07:53,825
section of the roadway.

11735
02:07:53,825 --> 02:07:55,560
there was also concern about t

11736
02:07:55,560 --> 02:07:55,560
he

11737
02:07:55,560 --> 02:07:59,572
installation of the raised

11738
02:07:59,572 --> 02:08:01,363
intersection, traffic calming

11739
02:08:01,363 --> 02:08:01,363


11740
02:08:01,363 --> 02:08:02,713
measures, and we did provide t

11741
02:08:02,713 --> 02:08:02,713
he

11742
02:08:02,713 --> 02:08:05,441
examples of -- and provide the

11743
02:08:05,441 --> 02:08:06,167


11744
02:08:06,167 --> 02:08:07,563
clarification that these aren'

11745
02:08:07,563 --> 02:08:07,768
t

11746
02:08:07,768 --> 02:08:09,743
the speed humps, but they're

11747
02:08:09,743 --> 02:08:11,911
raised intersections, which are

11748
02:08:11,911 --> 02:08:13,619


11749
02:08:13,619 --> 02:08:15,271
more gentle than what you

11750
02:08:15,271 --> 02:08:16,813
experienced driving over a spe

11751
02:08:16,813 --> 02:08:16,813
ed

11752
02:08:16,813 --> 02:08:18,959
bump or a speed hump.

11753
02:08:18,959 --> 02:08:23,491
the second discussion was

11754
02:08:23,491 --> 02:08:24,347
surrounding the bike lanes.

11755
02:08:24,347 --> 02:08:25,719
there were neighbors concerned

11756
02:08:25,719 --> 02:08:25,924


11757
02:08:25,924 --> 02:08:28,156
about the installation of

11758
02:08:28,156 --> 02:08:31,459
zippers, and staff did express

11759
02:08:31,459 --> 02:08:32,838


11760
02:08:32,838 --> 02:08:33,865
that during the design phase.

11761
02:08:33,865 --> 02:08:36,303
if we do more forward with the

11762
02:08:36,303 --> 02:08:36,963


11763
02:08:36,963 --> 02:08:40,641
zippers, the placement of the

11764
02:08:40,641 --> 02:08:40,641


11765
02:08:40,641 --> 02:08:43,781
zippers would be thoroughly

11766
02:08:43,781 --> 02:08:44,519
thought out in consideration o

11767
02:08:44,519 --> 02:08:44,637
f

11768
02:08:44,637 --> 02:08:45,703
drive ways and access points.

11769
02:08:45,703 --> 02:08:49,621
and turning radius.

11770
02:08:49,621 --> 02:08:55,409
third there was a discussion o

11771
02:08:55,409 --> 02:08:55,848
n

11772
02:08:55,848 --> 02:08:55,848
trees.

11773
02:08:55,848 --> 02:08:58,850
there were neighbors concerned

11774
02:08:58,850 --> 02:08:59,169


11775
02:08:59,169 --> 02:09:00,883
about trees causing damage to

11776
02:09:00,883 --> 02:09:00,883


11777
02:09:00,883 --> 02:09:03,353
the roadway, and falling

11778
02:09:03,353 --> 02:09:04,929
branches, and we did express

11779
02:09:04,929 --> 02:09:07,637
that would be a consideration

11780
02:09:07,637 --> 02:09:07,637


11781
02:09:07,637 --> 02:09:08,227
during the design phase.

11782
02:09:08,227 --> 02:09:10,681
we could evaluate trees and see

11783
02:09:10,681 --> 02:09:10,759


11784
02:09:10,759 --> 02:09:12,182
if any of that would need to be

11785
02:09:12,182 --> 02:09:13,073


11786
02:09:13,073 --> 02:09:13,776
removed, and potentially

11787
02:09:13,776 --> 02:09:13,776
replanted.

11788
02:09:13,776 --> 02:09:18,567
and then there were drainage

11789
02:09:18,567 --> 02:09:19,919
concerns in some specific area

11790
02:09:19,919 --> 02:09:19,919
s,

11791
02:09:19,919 --> 02:09:21,849
and again those are items that

11792
02:09:21,849 --> 02:09:21,972


11793
02:09:21,972 --> 02:09:23,577
we would definitely be able to

11794
02:09:23,577 --> 02:09:24,283


11795
02:09:24,283 --> 02:09:25,346
review during the design phase

11796
02:09:25,346 --> 02:09:25,647


11797
02:09:25,647 --> 02:09:27,769
and look at ways to mitigate

11798
02:09:27,769 --> 02:09:27,977
those concerns.

11799
02:09:27,977 --> 02:09:40,462
>> I just want to add a few mor

11800
02:09:40,462 --> 02:09:40,462
e

11801
02:09:40,462 --> 02:09:40,462
things.

11802
02:09:40,462 --> 02:09:42,929
there were some concerns about

11803
02:09:42,929 --> 02:09:43,063


11804
02:09:43,063 --> 02:09:46,701
the usage of the road through

11805
02:09:46,701 --> 02:09:46,701


11806
02:09:46,701 --> 02:09:48,100
the corridor and in are a lot o

11807
02:09:48,100 --> 02:09:48,100
f

11808
02:09:48,100 --> 02:09:49,610
churches along that stretch of

11809
02:09:49,610 --> 02:09:49,804


11810
02:09:49,804 --> 02:09:51,537
road, that utilize the roadway

11811
02:09:51,537 --> 02:09:51,707


11812
02:09:51,707 --> 02:09:54,513
for funerals, church events,

11813
02:09:54,513 --> 02:09:55,945
things like that, that was one

11814
02:09:55,945 --> 02:09:56,109


11815
02:09:56,109 --> 02:09:57,173
of the asks from the community.

11816
02:09:57,173 --> 02:09:57,173


11817
02:09:57,173 --> 02:09:59,011
I know we're going to set up a

11818
02:09:59,011 --> 02:09:59,175


11819
02:09:59,175 --> 02:10:01,224
second meeting with a couple o

11820
02:10:01,224 --> 02:10:01,267
f

11821
02:10:01,267 --> 02:10:03,146
the different pastors to talk

11822
02:10:03,146 --> 02:10:03,146


11823
02:10:03,146 --> 02:10:05,017
about how they generally have

11824
02:10:05,017 --> 02:10:05,017


11825
02:10:05,017 --> 02:10:06,853
events, and where people park,

11826
02:10:06,853 --> 02:10:07,585


11827
02:10:07,585 --> 02:10:09,265
because with cycle lanes, you

11828
02:10:09,265 --> 02:10:09,265


11829
02:10:09,265 --> 02:10:11,933
know, obviously there may be

11830
02:10:11,933 --> 02:10:14,262
somewhat of a, do we need to

11831
02:10:14,262 --> 02:10:18,179
move people off on to a path o

11832
02:10:18,179 --> 02:10:18,501
r

11833
02:10:18,501 --> 02:10:18,501
sidewalk.

11834
02:10:18,501 --> 02:10:20,767
we're going to be paying

11835
02:10:20,767 --> 02:10:22,465
particular attention to and

11836
02:10:22,465 --> 02:10:23,680
visiting some of the usages of

11837
02:10:23,680 --> 02:10:23,680


11838
02:10:23,680 --> 02:10:24,078
the road.

11839
02:10:24,078 --> 02:10:27,143
we do have some more meetings

11840
02:10:27,143 --> 02:10:27,143


11841
02:10:27,143 --> 02:10:30,073
that we have promised to set u

11842
02:10:30,073 --> 02:10:30,341
p

11843
02:10:30,341 --> 02:10:34,151
to get with folks about what

11844
02:10:34,151 --> 02:10:35,915
they see, because as chase

11845
02:10:35,915 --> 02:10:37,069
mentioned, there's a differenc

11846
02:10:37,069 --> 02:10:37,245
e

11847
02:10:37,245 --> 02:10:38,961
of opinion on speeding.

11848
02:10:38,961 --> 02:10:41,159
there were some drainage

11849
02:10:41,159 --> 02:10:42,493
concerns that we can address,

11850
02:10:42,493 --> 02:10:42,493


11851
02:10:42,493 --> 02:10:44,255
based on what I saw with my

11852
02:10:44,255 --> 02:10:46,281
initial assessment.

11853
02:10:46,281 --> 02:10:49,063
and just overall usages, bike

11854
02:10:49,063 --> 02:10:49,063


11855
02:10:49,063 --> 02:10:49,063
pass.

11856
02:10:49,063 --> 02:10:52,427
the general consensus on the

11857
02:10:52,427 --> 02:10:52,783
bike pass.

11858
02:10:52,783 --> 02:10:55,201
a lot of folks weren't sure if

11859
02:10:55,201 --> 02:10:55,663


11860
02:10:55,663 --> 02:10:57,205
folks would use a cycle lane, I

11861
02:10:57,205 --> 02:10:57,205
f

11862
02:10:57,205 --> 02:10:59,438
you don't have one, there's not

11863
02:10:59,438 --> 02:10:59,675


11864
02:10:59,675 --> 02:11:00,774
an opportunity for that, there

11865
02:11:00,774 --> 02:11:00,774
's

11866
02:11:00,774 --> 02:11:02,411
only the sidewalk, the zippers

11867
02:11:02,411 --> 02:11:02,673


11868
02:11:02,673 --> 02:11:03,549
were the big concern.

11869
02:11:03,549 --> 02:11:06,513
that was a big note for them.

11870
02:11:06,513 --> 02:11:08,657
a big note for a lot of folks.

11871
02:11:08,657 --> 02:11:08,657


11872
02:11:08,657 --> 02:11:12,391
I think there's -- there's no

11873
02:11:12,391 --> 02:11:12,391


11874
02:11:12,391 --> 02:11:13,219
design that's been done.

11875
02:11:13,219 --> 02:11:16,192
there's no survey, we just nee

11876
02:11:16,192 --> 02:11:16,192
d

11877
02:11:16,192 --> 02:11:17,817
the general direction of, we're

11878
02:11:17,817 --> 02:11:18,359


11879
02:11:18,359 --> 02:11:19,923
resurfacing the road with the

11880
02:11:19,923 --> 02:11:19,923


11881
02:11:19,923 --> 02:11:23,109
comp plan and edcm engineering

11882
02:11:23,109 --> 02:11:23,340


11883
02:11:23,340 --> 02:11:25,039
design and construction manual

11884
02:11:25,039 --> 02:11:25,265
,

11885
02:11:25,265 --> 02:11:27,235
we are required to consider

11886
02:11:27,235 --> 02:11:29,007
multimodal facilities, that's

11887
02:11:29,007 --> 02:11:29,007


11888
02:11:29,007 --> 02:11:30,065
prt of our overall requirement,

11889
02:11:30,065 --> 02:11:30,065


11890
02:11:30,065 --> 02:11:31,640
which is one of the reasons why

11891
02:11:31,640 --> 02:11:31,805


11892
02:11:31,805 --> 02:11:32,905
you're seeing the bike lanes

11893
02:11:32,905 --> 02:11:32,905
proposed.

11894
02:11:32,905 --> 02:11:42,301
the last thing I wanteto

11895
02:11:42,301 --> 02:11:42,813
mention was, there are medians

11896
02:11:42,813 --> 02:11:42,955


11897
02:11:42,955 --> 02:11:43,539
on the west side of waldo, and

11898
02:11:43,539 --> 02:11:43,583


11899
02:11:43,583 --> 02:11:47,485
that was at that community's

11900
02:11:47,485 --> 02:11:47,485
request.

11901
02:11:47,485 --> 02:11:49,458
I think I may have covered all

11902
02:11:49,458 --> 02:11:49,699


11903
02:11:49,699 --> 02:11:49,699
that.

11904
02:11:49,699 --> 02:11:50,927
and you guys can move on to th

11905
02:11:50,927 --> 02:11:50,973
e

11906
02:11:50,973 --> 02:11:51,176
next slide.

11907
02:11:51,176 --> 02:12:03,607
>> so the recommendation at han

11908
02:12:03,607 --> 02:12:03,607
d

11909
02:12:03,607 --> 02:12:05,471
is the city commission

11910
02:12:05,471 --> 02:12:07,109
authorized the city manager to

11911
02:12:07,109 --> 02:12:07,277


11912
02:12:07,277 --> 02:12:09,381
proceed with the design and

11913
02:12:09,381 --> 02:12:11,083
permitting of the northeast

11914
02:12:11,083 --> 02:12:13,013
eighth avenue project from wal

11915
02:12:13,013 --> 02:12:13,013
do

11916
02:12:13,013 --> 02:12:16,043
road to the western property

11917
02:12:16,043 --> 02:12:18,755
line of loften high school, and

11918
02:12:18,755 --> 02:12:19,053


11919
02:12:19,053 --> 02:12:20,335
return to the city commission

11920
02:12:20,335 --> 02:12:20,335


11921
02:12:20,335 --> 02:12:21,685
with a construction agreement

11922
02:12:21,685 --> 02:12:21,685


11923
02:12:21,685 --> 02:12:26,189
for the northeast eighth avenu

11924
02:12:26,189 --> 02:12:26,361
e

11925
02:12:26,361 --> 02:12:27,929
construction project to the

11926
02:12:27,929 --> 02:12:28,831
property line of the loften hig

11927
02:12:28,831 --> 02:12:28,831
h

11928
02:12:28,831 --> 02:12:28,831
school.

11929
02:12:28,831 --> 02:12:30,109
>> mayor: okay.

11930
02:12:30,109 --> 02:12:31,011
thank you.

11931
02:12:31,011 --> 02:12:34,247
commissioner duncan walker.

11932
02:12:34,247 --> 02:12:36,105
>> thank you, mr. Mayor, and

11933
02:12:36,105 --> 02:12:37,471
thank you, staff for that

11934
02:12:37,471 --> 02:12:37,471
presentation.

11935
02:12:37,471 --> 02:12:42,283
I have a couple questions to

11936
02:12:42,283 --> 02:12:42,807
begin with.

11937
02:12:42,807 --> 02:12:45,441
I'll be very forthcoming in

11938
02:12:45,441 --> 02:12:46,951
saying I'm interested in hearing

11939
02:12:46,951 --> 02:12:46,951


11940
02:12:46,951 --> 02:12:47,855
what the community members who

11941
02:12:47,855 --> 02:12:48,115


11942
02:12:48,115 --> 02:12:50,051
have shown up here today have t

11943
02:12:50,051 --> 02:12:50,051
o

11944
02:12:50,051 --> 02:12:50,051
say.

11945
02:12:50,051 --> 02:12:52,553
because what has become clear

11946
02:12:52,553 --> 02:12:52,553


11947
02:12:52,553 --> 02:12:54,151
is, they have not had an

11948
02:12:54,151 --> 02:12:55,853
opportunity to weigh-in on his.

11949
02:12:55,853 --> 02:12:55,853


11950
02:12:55,853 --> 02:12:57,980
my first question is, what types

11951
02:12:57,980 --> 02:12:57,980


11952
02:12:57,980 --> 02:12:59,503
of notices did you all send ou

11953
02:12:59,503 --> 02:12:59,547
t

11954
02:12:59,547 --> 02:12:59,791
to the community?

11955
02:12:59,791 --> 02:13:07,501
>> for the public workshop?

11956
02:13:07,501 --> 02:13:09,778
>> any types of notices that

11957
02:13:09,778 --> 02:13:11,606
would have let anyone who's

11958
02:13:11,606 --> 02:13:13,133
impacted by this project know

11959
02:13:13,133 --> 02:13:13,133


11960
02:13:13,133 --> 02:13:13,421
what you're proposing.

11961
02:13:13,421 --> 02:13:18,140
>> I can't speak for the may

11962
02:13:18,140 --> 02:13:20,178
2025 one, but in terms of the

11963
02:13:20,178 --> 02:13:20,178


11964
02:13:20,178 --> 02:13:23,183
most recent event, so we first

11965
02:13:23,183 --> 02:13:23,447


11966
02:13:23,447 --> 02:13:25,017
heard about some concerns with

11967
02:13:25,017 --> 02:13:25,615


11968
02:13:25,615 --> 02:13:26,453
northeast eighth back in

11969
02:13:26,453 --> 02:13:28,123
december at one of our greater

11970
02:13:28,123 --> 02:13:28,417


11971
02:13:28,417 --> 02:13:30,887
duvall meetings, public works

11972
02:13:30,887 --> 02:13:30,887


11973
02:13:30,887 --> 02:13:33,166
does participate in a monthly

11974
02:13:33,166 --> 02:13:33,166


11975
02:13:33,166 --> 02:13:34,661
meeting on the second monday o

11976
02:13:34,661 --> 02:13:35,457
f

11977
02:13:35,457 --> 02:13:37,395
every month from 12:00 to 1:00

11978
02:13:37,395 --> 02:13:37,871
,

11979
02:13:37,871 --> 02:13:39,531
it's just a free come and go,

11980
02:13:39,531 --> 02:13:39,531


11981
02:13:39,531 --> 02:13:41,067
and we chat with whoever's

11982
02:13:41,067 --> 02:13:42,401
there, and find out what their

11983
02:13:42,401 --> 02:13:43,237


11984
02:13:43,237 --> 02:13:43,869
concerns are.

11985
02:13:43,869 --> 02:13:46,469
there's also a greater duvall

11986
02:13:46,469 --> 02:13:46,469


11987
02:13:46,469 --> 02:13:47,109
neighborhood association meeti

11988
02:13:47,109 --> 02:13:47,109
ng

11989
02:13:47,109 --> 02:13:49,379
on the 3rd monday night of eve

11990
02:13:49,379 --> 02:13:49,379
ry

11991
02:13:49,379 --> 02:13:53,681
month and we participate in

11992
02:13:53,681 --> 02:13:53,681
that.

11993
02:13:53,681 --> 02:13:54,583
we had been talking with all

11994
02:13:54,583 --> 02:13:56,009
those folks who attended.

11995
02:13:56,009 --> 02:13:57,348
we were going to have a

11996
02:13:57,348 --> 02:14:01,291
particular meeting, and that w

11997
02:14:01,291 --> 02:14:01,291
as

11998
02:14:01,291 --> 02:14:04,429
three mondays ago -- maybe thr

11999
02:14:04,429 --> 02:14:04,429
ee

12000
02:14:04,429 --> 02:14:04,699
mondays ago.

12001
02:14:04,699 --> 02:14:10,563
we went ahead -- and had a

12002
02:14:10,563 --> 02:14:11,009
meeting on march 25th.

12003
02:14:11,009 --> 02:14:14,363
we did not send out flyers or

12004
02:14:14,363 --> 02:14:14,363


12005
02:14:14,363 --> 02:14:15,501
anything like that we sent out

12006
02:14:15,501 --> 02:14:16,067


12007
02:14:16,067 --> 02:14:20,201
emails tough the greater

12008
02:14:20,201 --> 02:14:20,549
duvall exchange.

12009
02:14:20,549 --> 02:14:23,041
we have more work to do with

12010
02:14:23,041 --> 02:14:23,787
communication and meeting with

12011
02:14:23,787 --> 02:14:23,979


12012
02:14:23,979 --> 02:14:25,944
people, and a lot of it has bee

12013
02:14:25,944 --> 02:14:25,944
n

12014
02:14:25,944 --> 02:14:26,643
word of mouth.

12015
02:14:26,643 --> 02:14:28,567
>> so let me -- in the interest

12016
02:14:28,567 --> 02:14:28,808


12017
02:14:28,808 --> 02:14:31,453
of saving a little bit of time

12018
02:14:31,453 --> 02:14:31,917


12019
02:14:31,917 --> 02:14:33,117
and being very forthright.

12020
02:14:33,117 --> 02:14:35,921
I did share this with you, tha

12021
02:14:35,921 --> 02:14:36,469
t

12022
02:14:36,469 --> 02:14:38,889
is a hot button issue and a

12023
02:14:38,889 --> 02:14:39,487
problem for me.

12024
02:14:39,487 --> 02:14:41,627
right now, one of the reasons

12025
02:14:41,627 --> 02:14:41,627


12026
02:14:41,627 --> 02:14:43,629
that this room is full of peopl

12027
02:14:43,629 --> 02:14:43,629
e

12028
02:14:43,629 --> 02:14:46,241
from east gainesville, and I

12029
02:14:46,241 --> 02:14:47,335
believe a few are also

12030
02:14:47,335 --> 02:14:49,389
downstairs, is because they

12031
02:14:49,389 --> 02:14:50,449
received no notification.

12032
02:14:50,449 --> 02:14:53,317
I'm looking at at least four

12033
02:14:53,317 --> 02:14:55,177
people that live directly on

12034
02:14:55,177 --> 02:14:56,981
northeast 8th avenue west of

12035
02:14:56,981 --> 02:14:59,849
waldo road, who received no

12036
02:14:59,849 --> 02:14:59,849
notification.

12037
02:14:59,849 --> 02:15:02,753
I know the duncans received no

12038
02:15:02,753 --> 02:15:03,083


12039
02:15:03,083 --> 02:15:05,141
notification, I know my next

12040
02:15:05,141 --> 02:15:06,471
door neighbor received no

12041
02:15:06,471 --> 02:15:06,471
notification.

12042
02:15:06,471 --> 02:15:09,753
you hear from this commission

12043
02:15:09,753 --> 02:15:09,753


12044
02:15:09,753 --> 02:15:10,622
just about every commission

12045
02:15:10,622 --> 02:15:12,267
meeting now, when we have these

12046
02:15:12,267 --> 02:15:12,555


12047
02:15:12,555 --> 02:15:14,964
major projects, that

12048
02:15:14,964 --> 02:15:17,701
notification is something that

12049
02:15:17,701 --> 02:15:18,205
the communi

12050
02:15:18,205 --> 02:15:19,727
the community expects, and

12051
02:15:19,727 --> 02:15:20,728
something that we expect.

12052
02:15:20,728 --> 02:15:24,337
I'm not prepared to make any

12053
02:15:24,337 --> 02:15:25,431
kind of decision today on those

12054
02:15:25,431 --> 02:15:25,772


12055
02:15:25,772 --> 02:15:26,205
grounds alone.

12056
02:15:26,205 --> 02:15:29,975
at the end of the day, we've n

12057
02:15:29,975 --> 02:15:29,975
ot

12058
02:15:29,975 --> 02:15:32,645
had the opportunity to engage

12059
02:15:32,645 --> 02:15:32,645


12060
02:15:32,645 --> 02:15:33,814
with the people in the way tha

12061
02:15:33,814 --> 02:15:34,232
t

12062
02:15:34,232 --> 02:15:37,685
we have said we are going to.

12063
02:15:37,685 --> 02:15:39,693
and frankly, we can take a loo

12064
02:15:39,693 --> 02:15:39,951
k

12065
02:15:39,951 --> 02:15:41,717
at what a lot of people have

12066
02:15:41,717 --> 02:15:45,161
serious issues with on northwest

12067
02:15:45,161 --> 02:15:45,161


12068
02:15:45,161 --> 02:15:46,760
eighth avenue, and see why the

12069
02:15:46,760 --> 02:15:46,760
re

12070
02:15:46,760 --> 02:15:47,921
are a lot of concerns.

12071
02:15:47,921 --> 02:15:51,234
I call it the 3c's, what

12072
02:15:51,234 --> 02:15:53,477
happened with northwest 8th

12073
02:15:53,477 --> 02:15:54,897
avenue, that's brought about

12074
02:15:54,897 --> 02:15:58,745
contention, confusion and

12075
02:15:58,745 --> 02:15:58,745
congestion.

12076
02:15:58,745 --> 02:16:02,141
and the individuals on the

12077
02:16:02,141 --> 02:16:03,745
eastside of waldo road and

12078
02:16:03,745 --> 02:16:04,871
probably a little bit before

12079
02:16:04,871 --> 02:16:06,379
that, but certainly, I've had a

12080
02:16:06,379 --> 02:16:06,781


12081
02:16:06,781 --> 02:16:08,283
chance to hear from the

12082
02:16:08,283 --> 02:16:09,749
individuals on the eastside of

12083
02:16:09,749 --> 02:16:10,321


12084
02:16:10,321 --> 02:16:11,997
waldo road who do not want to

12085
02:16:11,997 --> 02:16:11,997


12086
02:16:11,997 --> 02:16:13,413
see that happen, but you have

12087
02:16:13,413 --> 02:16:13,413


12088
02:16:13,413 --> 02:16:14,551
not engaged with them.

12089
02:16:14,551 --> 02:16:17,227
so you cannot properly provide

12090
02:16:17,227 --> 02:16:17,421


12091
02:16:17,421 --> 02:16:19,137
this commission with any type o

12092
02:16:19,137 --> 02:16:19,137
f

12093
02:16:19,137 --> 02:16:19,795
information regarding that.

12094
02:16:19,795 --> 02:16:21,694
I understand there were some

12095
02:16:21,694 --> 02:16:23,169
meetings that were convened, I

12096
02:16:23,169 --> 02:16:23,169
'm

12097
02:16:23,169 --> 02:16:24,263
glad you went to them.

12098
02:16:24,263 --> 02:16:27,173
but a lot of the people in thi

12099
02:16:27,173 --> 02:16:27,264
s

12100
02:16:27,264 --> 02:16:28,634
room, don't go to those

12101
02:16:28,634 --> 02:16:28,634
meetings.

12102
02:16:28,634 --> 02:16:30,477
there are people in this room

12103
02:16:30,477 --> 02:16:30,477


12104
02:16:30,477 --> 02:16:33,565
who didn't receive the emails.

12105
02:16:33,565 --> 02:16:33,565


12106
02:16:33,565 --> 02:16:35,919
so I am suggesting that until a

12107
02:16:35,919 --> 02:16:36,314


12108
02:16:36,314 --> 02:16:40,145
much more robust community

12109
02:16:40,145 --> 02:16:41,749
engagement experience is had,

12110
02:16:41,749 --> 02:16:43,845
this commission is not in

12111
02:16:43,845 --> 02:16:47,992
anyway prepared to have this

12112
02:16:47,992 --> 02:16:47,992
discussion.

12113
02:16:47,992 --> 02:16:50,661
I have engaged with a number o

12114
02:16:50,661 --> 02:16:50,791
f

12115
02:16:50,791 --> 02:16:52,793
people who are using multimodal

12116
02:16:52,793 --> 02:16:53,531


12117
02:16:53,531 --> 02:16:53,531
transport.

12118
02:16:53,531 --> 02:16:56,122
some of them want bike lanes,

12119
02:16:56,122 --> 02:16:56,122


12120
02:16:56,122 --> 02:16:57,524
and some of them don't for a

12121
02:16:57,524 --> 02:16:58,741
number of reasons.

12122
02:16:58,741 --> 02:17:02,665
but you won't know that unless

12123
02:17:02,665 --> 02:17:03,066


12124
02:17:03,066 --> 02:17:04,173
the table is prepared for them

12125
02:17:04,173 --> 02:17:04,369


12126
02:17:04,369 --> 02:17:05,185
to come sit with us, and have

12127
02:17:05,185 --> 02:17:05,185


12128
02:17:05,185 --> 02:17:05,397
that conversation.

12129
02:17:05,397 --> 02:17:13,641
I'm going to conclude for now,

12130
02:17:13,641 --> 02:17:14,231


12131
02:17:14,231 --> 02:17:15,181
because I'm very interested in

12132
02:17:15,181 --> 02:17:15,381


12133
02:17:15,381 --> 02:17:16,689
hearing what the people who cam

12134
02:17:16,689 --> 02:17:16,689
e

12135
02:17:16,689 --> 02:17:18,491
to speak to this issue have to

12136
02:17:18,491 --> 02:17:18,683


12137
02:17:18,683 --> 02:17:18,683
say.

12138
02:17:18,683 --> 02:17:21,587
I want to hear what my

12139
02:17:21,587 --> 02:17:22,549
colleagues have to say.

12140
02:17:22,549 --> 02:17:24,328
but I'm a little more intereste

12141
02:17:24,328 --> 02:17:24,328
d

12142
02:17:24,328 --> 02:17:26,987
in hearing from them today,

12143
02:17:26,987 --> 02:17:29,161
because they've been cheated o

12144
02:17:29,161 --> 02:17:29,161
ut

12145
02:17:29,161 --> 02:17:31,605
of an opportunity to speak.

12146
02:17:31,605 --> 02:17:34,937
I'm not interests in a decision,

12147
02:17:34,937 --> 02:17:34,937


12148
02:17:34,937 --> 02:17:36,771
I'm interested in a conversatio

12149
02:17:36,771 --> 02:17:36,771
n

12150
02:17:36,771 --> 02:17:40,639
today that will lead to the

12151
02:17:40,639 --> 02:17:42,273
broader discussion that is rea

12152
02:17:42,273 --> 02:17:42,537
l

12153
02:17:42,537 --> 02:17:45,817
community engagement, and

12154
02:17:45,817 --> 02:17:47,421
frankly that I'll probably put

12155
02:17:47,421 --> 02:17:47,509


12156
02:17:47,509 --> 02:17:49,029
out there, it will probably be

12157
02:17:49,029 --> 02:17:49,188
a

12158
02:17:49,188 --> 02:17:50,679
meeting that I'll convene.

12159
02:17:50,679 --> 02:17:52,955
I'm going to stop talking, mr.

12160
02:17:52,955 --> 02:17:53,348


12161
02:17:53,348 --> 02:17:54,287
mayor, for now.

12162
02:17:54,287 --> 02:17:56,452
I'm happy to hear from my

12163
02:17:56,452 --> 02:17:58,939
colleagues, and I'm certainly

12164
02:17:58,939 --> 02:17:58,939


12165
02:17:58,939 --> 02:18:00,661
happy to hear from the

12166
02:18:00,661 --> 02:18:00,661
community.

12167
02:18:00,661 --> 02:18:01,937
I'm sorry this has been the

12168
02:18:01,937 --> 02:18:01,937
experience.

12169
02:18:01,937 --> 02:18:04,099
this is is what we said we would

12170
02:18:04,099 --> 02:18:04,099


12171
02:18:04,099 --> 02:18:06,927
not do, and I do have this

12172
02:18:06,927 --> 02:18:11,011
question, before I release wit

12173
02:18:11,011 --> 02:18:11,165
h

12174
02:18:11,165 --> 02:18:11,600
my comments.

12175
02:18:11,600 --> 02:18:14,163
did we in anyway engage with the

12176
02:18:14,163 --> 02:18:14,163


12177
02:18:14,163 --> 02:18:16,275
office of governmental

12178
02:18:16,275 --> 02:18:17,113
affairs -- government relations

12179
02:18:17,113 --> 02:18:17,339


12180
02:18:17,339 --> 02:18:18,457
and community affairs, I believe

12181
02:18:18,457 --> 02:18:18,457


12182
02:18:18,457 --> 02:18:21,424
it is, aren't they now a part o

12183
02:18:21,424 --> 02:18:21,424
f

12184
02:18:21,424 --> 02:18:22,213
our process?

12185
02:18:22,213 --> 02:18:24,413
did we engage with them?

12186
02:18:24,413 --> 02:18:25,951
>> they were at the same

12187
02:18:25,951 --> 02:18:26,351
meetings as us, yes.

12188
02:18:26,351 --> 02:18:29,791
>> no, did we engage with them

12189
02:18:29,791 --> 02:18:30,017


12190
02:18:30,017 --> 02:18:30,825
to ask them --

12191
02:18:30,825 --> 02:18:33,022
>> not to coordinate any

12192
02:18:33,022 --> 02:18:33,623
additional meetings.

12193
02:18:33,623 --> 02:18:35,355
>> correct.

12194
02:18:35,355 --> 02:18:38,027
andrew, let me ask you this

12195
02:18:38,027 --> 02:18:38,027
question.

12196
02:18:38,027 --> 02:18:42,645
help me understand what our

12197
02:18:42,645 --> 02:18:43,345
community engagement process I

12198
02:18:43,345 --> 02:18:43,571
s

12199
02:18:43,571 --> 02:18:44,117
now with that office?

12200
02:18:44,117 --> 02:18:48,185
>> yes, to your point, we are

12201
02:18:48,185 --> 02:18:48,185


12202
02:18:48,185 --> 02:18:50,948
working on a community

12203
02:18:50,948 --> 02:18:51,672
engagement guide going-forward,

12204
02:18:51,672 --> 02:18:52,627


12205
02:18:52,627 --> 02:18:53,579
that's still in draft form, we

12206
02:18:53,579 --> 02:18:53,691


12207
02:18:53,691 --> 02:18:55,785
will be finalizing it,ing and

12208
02:18:55,785 --> 02:18:55,785


12209
02:18:55,785 --> 02:18:57,054
sending it on to the commission

12210
02:18:57,054 --> 02:18:57,054
.

12211
02:18:57,054 --> 02:18:59,650
it talks about how the

12212
02:18:59,650 --> 02:19:04,527
departments do engagement with

12213
02:19:04,527 --> 02:19:05,087


12214
02:19:05,087 --> 02:19:06,230
my office through the governmen

12215
02:19:06,230 --> 02:19:06,230
t

12216
02:19:06,230 --> 02:19:08,227
affairs community relations

12217
02:19:08,227 --> 02:19:08,227
team.

12218
02:19:08,227 --> 02:19:10,529
I do want to -- I think gail m

12219
02:19:10,529 --> 02:19:10,529
ay

12220
02:19:10,529 --> 02:19:13,265
have touched on this, but I

12221
02:19:13,265 --> 02:19:14,933
do -- miss mowry may have

12222
02:19:14,933 --> 02:19:18,209
touched on this, this was

12223
02:19:18,209 --> 02:19:19,671
originally part of that -- the

12224
02:19:19,671 --> 02:19:19,898


12225
02:19:19,898 --> 02:19:21,777
overall 8th and waldo process.

12226
02:19:21,777 --> 02:19:21,777


12227
02:19:21,777 --> 02:19:25,279
the overall engagement.

12228
02:19:25,279 --> 02:19:28,225
during that process, there had

12229
02:19:28,225 --> 02:19:28,549


12230
02:19:28,549 --> 02:19:32,995
been, I think programmed an

12231
02:19:32,995 --> 02:19:34,257
engagement workshop just about

12232
02:19:34,257 --> 02:19:34,458


12233
02:19:34,458 --> 02:19:35,320
the street scapes.

12234
02:19:35,320 --> 02:19:37,123
but because of all the changes

12235
02:19:37,123 --> 02:19:37,304


12236
02:19:37,304 --> 02:19:40,155
that we went through with the

12237
02:19:40,155 --> 02:19:40,155


12238
02:19:40,155 --> 02:19:45,427
scope and changing the design,

12239
02:19:45,427 --> 02:19:45,995


12240
02:19:45,995 --> 02:19:48,799
the streetscape portion got

12241
02:19:48,799 --> 02:19:51,082
broken out as a separate

12242
02:19:51,082 --> 02:19:52,833
project, and it didn't have a

12243
02:19:52,833 --> 02:19:52,833


12244
02:19:52,833 --> 02:19:54,578
specific engage thamt was part

12245
02:19:54,578 --> 02:19:54,711


12246
02:19:54,711 --> 02:19:56,093
of the original scope with the

12247
02:19:56,093 --> 02:19:56,306


12248
02:19:56,306 --> 02:19:59,243
eighth and waldo overall

12249
02:19:59,243 --> 02:19:59,243
project.

12250
02:19:59,243 --> 02:20:02,821
I do want to mention a couple

12251
02:20:02,821 --> 02:20:02,821


12252
02:20:02,821 --> 02:20:04,351
things that I think are -- wou

12253
02:20:04,351 --> 02:20:04,351
ld

12254
02:20:04,351 --> 02:20:06,217
probably be relevant now.

12255
02:20:06,217 --> 02:20:09,717
this is still very early on.

12256
02:20:09,717 --> 02:20:14,099
so I think the -- to your poin

12257
02:20:14,099 --> 02:20:14,099
t,

12258
02:20:14,099 --> 02:20:20,369
if there's -- I know staff has

12259
02:20:20,369 --> 02:20:20,601


12260
02:20:20,601 --> 02:20:22,140
already had additional engage a

12261
02:20:22,140 --> 02:20:22,140
m

12262
02:20:22,140 --> 02:20:23,664
coming up with community.

12263
02:20:23,664 --> 02:20:30,508
certainly, if the commission

12264
02:20:30,508 --> 02:20:31,913
provides that direction and

12265
02:20:31,913 --> 02:20:34,089
decides to delay any sort of

12266
02:20:34,089 --> 02:20:36,846
design vote, that's certainly

12267
02:20:36,846 --> 02:20:36,846


12268
02:20:36,846 --> 02:20:39,513
the commission's prerogative,

12269
02:20:39,513 --> 02:20:39,513


12270
02:20:39,513 --> 02:20:40,433
and we would understand that.

12271
02:20:40,433 --> 02:20:42,286
importantly too, I do not

12272
02:20:42,286 --> 02:20:44,485
believe we actually have

12273
02:20:44,485 --> 02:20:45,298
construction funding lined up

12274
02:20:45,298 --> 02:20:45,298


12275
02:20:45,298 --> 02:20:46,026
for any of this.

12276
02:20:46,026 --> 02:20:48,165
right now, all we're talking

12277
02:20:48,165 --> 02:20:50,658
about is the $500,000 roughly

12278
02:20:50,658 --> 02:20:50,658


12279
02:20:50,658 --> 02:20:50,958
for design.

12280
02:20:50,958 --> 02:20:53,417
so we would need to identify h

12281
02:20:53,417 --> 02:20:53,417
ow

12282
02:20:53,417 --> 02:20:54,679
to actually fund construction.

12283
02:20:54,679 --> 02:20:54,679


12284
02:20:54,679 --> 02:20:58,602
so I do want to make sure,

12285
02:20:58,602 --> 02:20:59,983
because we've had a couple roa

12286
02:20:59,983 --> 02:21:00,605
d

12287
02:21:00,605 --> 02:21:01,740
projects that have been designe

12288
02:21:01,740 --> 02:21:01,740
d

12289
02:21:01,740 --> 02:21:04,143
a long time ago, and then

12290
02:21:04,143 --> 02:21:04,605
finally funded.

12291
02:21:04,605 --> 02:21:06,055
I don't want the commission to

12292
02:21:06,055 --> 02:21:06,306


12293
02:21:06,306 --> 02:21:10,244
think this is one of those

12294
02:21:10,244 --> 02:21:11,714
processes where the community

12295
02:21:11,714 --> 02:21:11,714


12296
02:21:11,714 --> 02:21:13,380
that construction is imminent.

12297
02:21:13,380 --> 02:21:13,380


12298
02:21:13,380 --> 02:21:15,236
you can make a vote, two months

12299
02:21:15,236 --> 02:21:15,460


12300
02:21:15,460 --> 02:21:16,492
from now we're going to be out

12301
02:21:16,492 --> 02:21:16,685


12302
02:21:16,685 --> 02:21:17,771
there doing the work, that's n

12303
02:21:17,771 --> 02:21:17,771
ot

12304
02:21:17,771 --> 02:21:19,691
the case, we don't have the

12305
02:21:19,691 --> 02:21:21,091
funding lined up for it yet.

12306
02:21:21,091 --> 02:21:24,167
I do think there's still time t

12307
02:21:24,167 --> 02:21:24,167
o

12308
02:21:24,167 --> 02:21:26,963
have additional dialogue, and I

12309
02:21:26,963 --> 02:21:26,963
f

12310
02:21:26,963 --> 02:21:28,505
that's the will of the

12311
02:21:28,505 --> 02:21:29,965
commission, in terms of design

12312
02:21:29,965 --> 02:21:30,369


12313
02:21:30,369 --> 02:21:31,749
on any of the segments and the

12314
02:21:31,749 --> 02:21:31,749


12315
02:21:31,749 --> 02:21:32,173
options presented today.

12316
02:21:32,173 --> 02:21:34,401
>> I'm glad to hear that.

12317
02:21:34,401 --> 02:21:36,676
I do not believe that staff

12318
02:21:36,676 --> 02:21:37,905
should ever make any

12319
02:21:37,905 --> 02:21:39,107
recommendations that have not

12320
02:21:39,107 --> 02:21:39,107


12321
02:21:39,107 --> 02:21:41,421
been fully vetted through a

12322
02:21:41,421 --> 02:21:42,781
process with the community.

12323
02:21:42,781 --> 02:21:45,248
somehow that was circumvented,

12324
02:21:45,248 --> 02:21:46,489


12325
02:21:46,489 --> 02:21:47,312
we missed it.

12326
02:21:47,312 --> 02:21:49,563
and we shouldn't be making any

12327
02:21:49,563 --> 02:21:50,194


12328
02:21:50,194 --> 02:21:50,774
recommendations today at all.

12329
02:21:50,774 --> 02:21:51,225
I'll conclude for now.

12330
02:21:51,225 --> 02:21:56,023
>> thank you, commissioner

12331
02:21:56,023 --> 02:21:57,626
duncan walker, commissioner

12332
02:21:57,626 --> 02:21:57,626
chestnut?

12333
02:21:57,626 --> 02:22:01,671
>> thank you, I think the

12334
02:22:01,671 --> 02:22:02,914
community is still reeling fro

12335
02:22:02,914 --> 02:22:03,003
m

12336
02:22:03,003 --> 02:22:05,501
the changes that were made on

12337
02:22:05,501 --> 02:22:05,501


12338
02:22:05,501 --> 02:22:06,933
northwest eighth avenue from

12339
02:22:06,933 --> 02:22:08,707
main street to sixth street, t

12340
02:22:08,707 --> 02:22:08,707
he

12341
02:22:08,707 --> 02:22:10,241
community has not gotten over

12342
02:22:10,241 --> 02:22:10,241


12343
02:22:10,241 --> 02:22:11,711
that, they don't like it, and I

12344
02:22:11,711 --> 02:22:12,007


12345
02:22:12,007 --> 02:22:17,313
don't think they want to see

12346
02:22:17,313 --> 02:22:18,644
this extended any further.

12347
02:22:18,644 --> 02:22:21,285
now, how many bike lanes are

12348
02:22:21,285 --> 02:22:27,257
from waldo road to mt. Carmel

12349
02:22:27,257 --> 02:22:27,257


12350
02:22:27,257 --> 02:22:27,257
church.

12351
02:22:27,257 --> 02:22:29,943
we have bike lanes on both sid

12352
02:22:29,943 --> 02:22:29,943
es

12353
02:22:29,943 --> 02:22:30,493
now currently?

12354
02:22:30,493 --> 02:22:32,351
>> no, there's just sidewalks.

12355
02:22:32,351 --> 02:22:32,351


12356
02:22:32,351 --> 02:22:32,877
>> just two sidewalks.

12357
02:22:32,877 --> 02:22:36,707
all right.

12358
02:22:36,707 --> 02:22:37,467
that's one.

12359
02:22:37,467 --> 02:22:41,440
how many bikers do you have fro

12360
02:22:41,440 --> 02:22:41,440


12361
02:22:41,440 --> 02:22:45,071
waldo road to mt. Carmel church

12362
02:22:45,071 --> 02:22:45,071
?

12363
02:22:45,071 --> 02:22:48,213
what do you --

12364
02:22:48,213 --> 02:22:51,384
>> there was data past a certa

12365
02:22:51,384 --> 02:22:51,384
in

12366
02:22:51,384 --> 02:22:53,117
road point for bike traffic.

12367
02:22:53,117 --> 02:22:54,325
that there's no count.

12368
02:22:54,325 --> 02:22:56,391
I'm not sure what the

12369
02:22:56,391 --> 02:22:56,739
intersection was.

12370
02:22:56,739 --> 02:23:00,371
>> well, I don't think people

12371
02:23:00,371 --> 02:23:00,371


12372
02:23:00,371 --> 02:23:05,461
want to see eighth avenue

12373
02:23:05,461 --> 02:23:06,111
enter -- how many?

12374
02:23:06,111 --> 02:23:09,297
>> no data east of waldo, and

12375
02:23:09,297 --> 02:23:09,297


12376
02:23:09,297 --> 02:23:10,704
that was a question from many o

12377
02:23:10,704 --> 02:23:10,704
f

12378
02:23:10,704 --> 02:23:12,817
the folks we talked, to they

12379
02:23:12,817 --> 02:23:13,486
weren't sure the bike lanes

12380
02:23:13,486 --> 02:23:13,739
would be utilized.  >>

12381
02:23:13,739 --> 02:23:18,961
>> had now, there are lots of

12382
02:23:18,961 --> 02:23:18,961


12383
02:23:18,961 --> 02:23:19,941
churches on that stretch.

12384
02:23:19,941 --> 02:23:22,251
there are lots of -- I guess y

12385
02:23:22,251 --> 02:23:22,251
ou

12386
02:23:22,251 --> 02:23:24,287
would call them curb cuts, but

12387
02:23:24,287 --> 02:23:24,422


12388
02:23:24,422 --> 02:23:26,757
there are lots of drive ways

12389
02:23:26,757 --> 02:23:27,981
turning into people's street.

12390
02:23:27,981 --> 02:23:30,363
turning into the streets, which

12391
02:23:30,363 --> 02:23:30,517


12392
02:23:30,517 --> 02:23:36,701
this would just really disrupt.

12393
02:23:36,701 --> 02:23:36,701


12394
02:23:36,701 --> 02:23:39,596
and just the thought of taking

12395
02:23:39,596 --> 02:23:39,861


12396
02:23:39,861 --> 02:23:42,105
out trees, as much as

12397
02:23:42,105 --> 02:23:43,034
gainesville talks about trees,

12398
02:23:43,034 --> 02:23:43,402


12399
02:23:43,402 --> 02:23:46,104
you would have to remove trees

12400
02:23:46,104 --> 02:23:46,243


12401
02:23:46,243 --> 02:23:46,577
here at some point.

12402
02:23:46,577 --> 02:23:52,428
the raised intersections, are

12403
02:23:52,428 --> 02:23:52,428


12404
02:23:52,428 --> 02:23:54,409
you talking about raised

12405
02:23:54,409 --> 02:23:55,386
intersection similar to what y

12406
02:23:55,386 --> 02:23:55,386
ou

12407
02:23:55,386 --> 02:23:57,478
have over on university avenue

12408
02:23:57,478 --> 02:23:58,586
,

12409
02:23:58,586 --> 02:24:01,859
as you go into target copy?

12410
02:24:01,859 --> 02:24:03,459
what would the raised

12411
02:24:03,459 --> 02:24:03,921
intersection look like?

12412
02:24:03,921 --> 02:24:09,759
>> a couple good use of them,

12413
02:24:09,759 --> 02:24:09,759


12414
02:24:09,759 --> 02:24:11,762
there's one on northwest 5th a

12415
02:24:11,762 --> 02:24:11,762
nd

12416
02:24:11,762 --> 02:24:11,762
22nd.

12417
02:24:11,762 --> 02:24:13,944
>> okay.

12418
02:24:13,944 --> 02:24:14,566
I got it.

12419
02:24:14,566 --> 02:24:15,170
I know.

12420
02:24:15,170 --> 02:24:17,898
>> so it's a --

12421
02:24:17,898 --> 02:24:19,543
>> okay.

12422
02:24:19,543 --> 02:24:21,034
>> so the intersection is

12423
02:24:21,034 --> 02:24:21,034
elevated.

12424
02:24:21,034 --> 02:24:28,470
it's not the increase you get

12425
02:24:28,470 --> 02:24:28,470


12426
02:24:28,470 --> 02:24:29,250
with a speed bump, it's the

12427
02:24:29,250 --> 02:24:29,442
whole thing.

12428
02:24:29,442 --> 02:24:32,730
>> I am interested in hearing

12429
02:24:32,730 --> 02:24:32,730


12430
02:24:32,730 --> 02:24:33,158
from the community.

12431
02:24:33,158 --> 02:24:34,854
particularly since what we've

12432
02:24:34,854 --> 02:24:34,854


12433
02:24:34,854 --> 02:24:36,556
gone through with northwest

12434
02:24:36,556 --> 02:24:39,960
eighth avenue to sixth street,

12435
02:24:39,960 --> 02:24:40,488


12436
02:24:40,488 --> 02:24:41,102
the community has not gotten

12437
02:24:41,102 --> 02:24:41,894
over that.

12438
02:24:41,894 --> 02:24:45,598
we did not have any input in

12439
02:24:45,598 --> 02:24:45,598
that.

12440
02:24:45,598 --> 02:24:48,071
and the next thing we knew, our

12441
02:24:48,071 --> 02:24:48,498


12442
02:24:48,498 --> 02:24:50,468
street was being torn up, bike

12443
02:24:50,468 --> 02:24:51,110


12444
02:24:51,110 --> 02:24:52,574
lanes were being put in, zippe

12445
02:24:52,574 --> 02:24:52,574
rs

12446
02:24:52,574 --> 02:24:54,780
were being put in, we had no

12447
02:24:54,780 --> 02:24:54,780
input.

12448
02:24:54,780 --> 02:24:57,233
now, what we were told is that

12449
02:24:57,233 --> 02:24:57,344


12450
02:24:57,344 --> 02:24:58,906
the input was several years ag

12451
02:24:58,906 --> 02:24:58,906
o,

12452
02:24:58,906 --> 02:25:01,048
we did not have input on that.

12453
02:25:01,048 --> 02:25:01,048


12454
02:25:01,048 --> 02:25:04,186
just as I think these people a

12455
02:25:04,186 --> 02:25:04,186
re

12456
02:25:04,186 --> 02:25:04,856
here today to tell you they've

12457
02:25:04,856 --> 02:25:05,888


12458
02:25:05,888 --> 02:25:06,552
had no input.

12459
02:25:06,552 --> 02:25:09,403
I would not want to see what

12460
02:25:09,403 --> 02:25:13,034
happened to us on northwest

12461
02:25:13,034 --> 02:25:15,664
eighth avenue, when we're told

12462
02:25:15,664 --> 02:25:15,958


12463
02:25:15,958 --> 02:25:17,835
that the public engagement was

12464
02:25:17,835 --> 02:25:17,927


12465
02:25:17,927 --> 02:25:19,626
held years before, but we did

12466
02:25:19,626 --> 02:25:19,626


12467
02:25:19,626 --> 02:25:21,198
not have an opportunity to

12468
02:25:21,198 --> 02:25:23,509
participate there.

12469
02:25:23,509 --> 02:25:25,300
so I have some concerns about

12470
02:25:25,300 --> 02:25:25,300


12471
02:25:25,300 --> 02:25:25,300
this.

12472
02:25:25,300 --> 02:25:29,106
concerns of how this would

12473
02:25:29,106 --> 02:25:29,529
disrupt our community.

12474
02:25:29,529 --> 02:25:31,925
I have concerns about putting I

12475
02:25:31,925 --> 02:25:31,925
n

12476
02:25:31,925 --> 02:25:33,920
these bike lanes, and people

12477
02:25:33,920 --> 02:25:35,644
have not requested those.

12478
02:25:35,644 --> 02:25:39,246
and taking out trees.

12479
02:25:39,246 --> 02:25:41,826
so I'll wait to hear what the

12480
02:25:41,826 --> 02:25:41,826


12481
02:25:41,826 --> 02:25:42,433
community has to say, thank yo

12482
02:25:42,433 --> 02:25:42,433
u.

12483
02:25:42,433 --> 02:25:45,264
>> thank you, commissioner

12484
02:25:45,264 --> 02:25:45,264
chestnut.

12485
02:25:45,264 --> 02:25:46,322
commissioner eastman.

12486
02:25:46,322 --> 02:25:48,270
>> taking a step back here, what

12487
02:25:48,270 --> 02:25:48,270


12488
02:25:48,270 --> 02:25:50,060
we're talking about now is,

12489
02:25:50,060 --> 02:25:52,667
we -- this road is due for

12490
02:25:52,667 --> 02:25:53,512
resurfacing, correct?

12491
02:25:53,512 --> 02:25:55,231
>> what we're talking about

12492
02:25:55,231 --> 02:25:57,687
doing, is taking a road, and

12493
02:25:57,687 --> 02:25:59,973
I'll say, I've tried to ride m

12494
02:25:59,973 --> 02:26:00,402
y

12495
02:26:00,402 --> 02:26:01,678
bike on every street in the cit

12496
02:26:01,678 --> 02:26:01,678
y

12497
02:26:01,678 --> 02:26:02,381
of ga

12498
02:26:02,381 --> 02:26:07,050
this needs help, I will hear

12499
02:26:07,050 --> 02:26:09,253
from the community, but the --

12500
02:26:09,253 --> 02:26:09,446


12501
02:26:09,446 --> 02:26:09,771
[ inaudible ]

12502
02:26:09,771 --> 02:26:11,148
this is a road that has cracks

12503
02:26:11,148 --> 02:26:11,335


12504
02:26:11,335 --> 02:26:14,759
in it, it is clearly has not

12505
02:26:14,759 --> 02:26:16,659
gotten the love that it

12506
02:26:16,659 --> 02:26:16,659
deserves.

12507
02:26:16,659 --> 02:26:19,874
and that's true with -- just t

12508
02:26:19,874 --> 02:26:19,921
o

12509
02:26:19,921 --> 02:26:22,062
be candid, a lot of east

12510
02:26:22,062 --> 02:26:23,277
gainesville infrastructure, whe

12511
02:26:23,277 --> 02:26:23,277
n

12512
02:26:23,277 --> 02:26:24,331
we're going through that

12513
02:26:24,331 --> 02:26:25,527
process, naturally what happen

12514
02:26:25,527 --> 02:26:25,527
s,

12515
02:26:25,527 --> 02:26:27,405
how should this be designed in

12516
02:26:27,405 --> 02:26:27,448


12517
02:26:27,448 --> 02:26:31,401
the future, whether it was has

12518
02:26:31,401 --> 02:26:31,401
ty

12519
02:26:31,401 --> 02:26:33,643
to come out with recommendatio

12520
02:26:33,643 --> 02:26:33,643
ns

12521
02:26:33,643 --> 02:26:35,744
or -- this is the process of h

12522
02:26:35,744 --> 02:26:35,744
ow

12523
02:26:35,744 --> 02:26:38,909
we decide what wire going to d

12524
02:26:38,909 --> 02:26:39,041
o

12525
02:26:39,041 --> 02:26:40,645
when we're making large

12526
02:26:40,645 --> 02:26:41,867
investments, I think it's great

12527
02:26:41,867 --> 02:26:42,059


12528
02:26:42,059 --> 02:26:43,649
we're making large investments.

12529
02:26:43,649 --> 02:26:43,649


12530
02:26:43,649 --> 02:26:45,451
this road clearly needs it, you

12531
02:26:45,451 --> 02:26:45,855


12532
02:26:45,855 --> 02:26:47,151
guys are asking for right now,

12533
02:26:47,151 --> 02:26:47,451


12534
02:26:47,451 --> 02:26:48,987
I'm hearing -- I know that roa

12535
02:26:48,987 --> 02:26:48,987
ds

12536
02:26:48,987 --> 02:26:51,121
are the sort of funny thing, y

12537
02:26:51,121 --> 02:26:51,121
ou

12538
02:26:51,121 --> 02:26:52,963
make plans in the beginning, y

12539
02:26:52,963 --> 02:26:52,963
ou

12540
02:26:52,963 --> 02:26:54,634
go to the state for grants and

12541
02:26:54,634 --> 02:26:55,063


12542
02:26:55,063 --> 02:26:57,063
you try to get gas tax out of,

12543
02:26:57,063 --> 02:26:59,165


12544
02:26:59,165 --> 02:27:00,797
or whatever the pop of funding

12545
02:27:00,797 --> 02:27:01,031


12546
02:27:01,031 --> 02:27:01,031
is.

12547
02:27:01,031 --> 02:27:02,953
you mentioned briefly, what are

12548
02:27:02,953 --> 02:27:03,041


12549
02:27:03,041 --> 02:27:04,007
you guys looking for?

12550
02:27:04,007 --> 02:27:07,007
you wouldn't be coming and

12551
02:27:07,007 --> 02:27:08,911
asking us if you didn't want

12552
02:27:08,911 --> 02:27:10,756
some sort of direction to move

12553
02:27:10,756 --> 02:27:10,953


12554
02:27:10,953 --> 02:27:12,255
forward to this investment.

12555
02:27:12,255 --> 02:27:13,497
what kind of direction are you

12556
02:27:13,497 --> 02:27:13,645


12557
02:27:13,645 --> 02:27:15,679
looking for, aside from the --

12558
02:27:15,679 --> 02:27:16,049


12559
02:27:16,049 --> 02:27:17,317
just overall design you

12560
02:27:17,317 --> 02:27:18,033
mentioned, can you repeat that

12561
02:27:18,033 --> 02:27:18,171


12562
02:27:18,171 --> 02:27:18,171
again?

12563
02:27:18,171 --> 02:27:21,957
>> I think in general, the

12564
02:27:21,957 --> 02:27:23,991
recommendations are to look at

12565
02:27:23,991 --> 02:27:24,257


12566
02:27:24,257 --> 02:27:25,719
speed control and do we need t

12567
02:27:25,719 --> 02:27:25,989
o

12568
02:27:25,989 --> 02:27:26,721
have raised intersections.

12569
02:27:26,721 --> 02:27:29,461
I know the graphic proposes

12570
02:27:29,461 --> 02:27:29,461
three.

12571
02:27:29,461 --> 02:27:33,505
it may not be three, we may not

12572
02:27:33,505 --> 02:27:34,075


12573
02:27:34,075 --> 02:27:35,573
need three when we start looki

12574
02:27:35,573 --> 02:27:35,573
ng

12575
02:27:35,573 --> 02:27:35,934
at design.

12576
02:27:35,934 --> 02:27:38,173
I don't think anyone had issue

12577
02:27:38,173 --> 02:27:38,399
s

12578
02:27:38,399 --> 02:27:42,371
with the rfp's or pedestrians

12579
02:27:42,371 --> 02:27:42,371


12580
02:27:42,371 --> 02:27:42,371
crossings.

12581
02:27:42,371 --> 02:27:45,177
bike lanes are tricky, not

12582
02:27:45,177 --> 02:27:46,649
everyone thinks those will be

12583
02:27:46,649 --> 02:27:46,649


12584
02:27:46,649 --> 02:27:49,013
used, do we look at trying to

12585
02:27:49,013 --> 02:27:49,013


12586
02:27:49,013 --> 02:27:50,880
offer a wider sidewalk you for

12587
02:27:50,880 --> 02:27:51,091


12588
02:27:51,091 --> 02:27:52,255
certain stretches so folks can

12589
02:27:52,255 --> 02:27:52,549


12590
02:27:52,549 --> 02:27:54,935
stay on a multiuse trail of som

12591
02:27:54,935 --> 02:27:54,935
e

12592
02:27:54,935 --> 02:27:54,935
sort.

12593
02:27:54,935 --> 02:27:58,559
we do have a multiuse trail fro

12594
02:27:58,559 --> 02:27:58,559
m

12595
02:27:58,559 --> 02:28:00,627
the end, like 25th terrace on,

12596
02:28:00,627 --> 02:28:01,531


12597
02:28:01,531 --> 02:28:02,665
there's multiuse trails.

12598
02:28:02,665 --> 02:28:04,367
we're looking for simple

12599
02:28:04,367 --> 02:28:06,364
guidance in terms of --

12600
02:28:06,364 --> 02:28:07,863
obviously, everybody's on board

12601
02:28:07,863 --> 02:28:07,991


12602
02:28:07,991 --> 02:28:09,369
with the road paving, what do

12603
02:28:09,369 --> 02:28:09,369


12604
02:28:09,369 --> 02:28:12,669
the bike lanes look like, and d

12605
02:28:12,669 --> 02:28:12,669
o

12606
02:28:12,669 --> 02:28:14,420
we offer bike lanes or do we

12607
02:28:14,420 --> 02:28:16,777
more focus on a sidewalk or

12608
02:28:16,777 --> 02:28:17,411
multiuse situation.

12609
02:28:17,411 --> 02:28:19,516
I don't know if we have enough

12610
02:28:19,516 --> 02:28:20,649


12611
02:28:20,649 --> 02:28:23,479
right-of-way to do that.

12612
02:28:23,479 --> 02:28:25,655
generally speaking that's what

12613
02:28:25,655 --> 02:28:26,151


12614
02:28:26,151 --> 02:28:29,825
we're looking for, comp plan

12615
02:28:29,825 --> 02:28:31,219
indicates we're looking for

12616
02:28:31,219 --> 02:28:31,675
those multimodal opportunities.

12617
02:28:31,675 --> 02:28:31,675


12618
02:28:31,675 --> 02:28:40,333
when it comes to trees, it

12619
02:28:40,333 --> 02:28:41,717
depends if it's a healthy tree

12620
02:28:41,717 --> 02:28:41,999


12621
02:28:41,999 --> 02:28:42,449
or not.

12622
02:28:42,449 --> 02:28:44,470
some of the oaks may be dying

12623
02:28:44,470 --> 02:28:44,470


12624
02:28:44,470 --> 02:28:45,449
inside, and they were dropping

12625
02:28:45,449 --> 02:28:45,902


12626
02:28:45,902 --> 02:28:46,873
logs every time it rained.

12627
02:28:46,873 --> 02:28:48,545
that was one of the reasons the

12628
02:28:48,545 --> 02:28:48,977


12629
02:28:48,977 --> 02:28:49,383
trees came up.

12630
02:28:49,383 --> 02:28:52,041
we would look at that.

12631
02:28:52,041 --> 02:28:54,543
we want long term safety, the

12632
02:28:54,543 --> 02:28:54,543


12633
02:28:54,543 --> 02:28:56,591
trees are providing shade,

12634
02:28:56,591 --> 02:28:58,222
they're dropping limbs, is that

12635
02:28:58,222 --> 02:28:58,261


12636
02:28:58,261 --> 02:28:58,581
a problem?

12637
02:28:58,581 --> 02:28:59,448
>> right.

12638
02:28:59,448 --> 02:29:03,462
>> to that point, when we tal

12639
02:29:03,462 --> 02:29:06,365
about tearing down the trees a

12640
02:29:06,365 --> 02:29:06,365
nd

12641
02:29:06,365 --> 02:29:06,688
the bike lanes.

12642
02:29:06,688 --> 02:29:09,596
in most of these, we had bike

12643
02:29:09,596 --> 02:29:09,596


12644
02:29:09,596 --> 02:29:09,596
lanes.

12645
02:29:09,596 --> 02:29:13,735
what are you referring to.

12646
02:29:13,735 --> 02:29:15,274
those there, that is a question

12647
02:29:15,274 --> 02:29:15,471


12648
02:29:15,471 --> 02:29:16,914
that is there, whether or not w

12649
02:29:16,914 --> 02:29:16,914
e

12650
02:29:16,914 --> 02:29:20,137
want to extend that one side,

12651
02:29:20,137 --> 02:29:20,137


12652
02:29:20,137 --> 02:29:21,378
which for folks that walk, wha

12653
02:29:21,378 --> 02:29:21,551
t

12654
02:29:21,551 --> 02:29:23,717
we're talking about is a large

12655
02:29:23,717 --> 02:29:23,852
r

12656
02:29:23,852 --> 02:29:30,773
sidewalk in a lot of ways, of

12657
02:29:30,773 --> 02:29:30,773


12658
02:29:30,773 --> 02:29:31,343
course it's nice.

12659
02:29:31,343 --> 02:29:33,523
yeah, I mean, so when you were

12660
02:29:33,523 --> 02:29:33,785


12661
02:29:33,785 --> 02:29:36,329
telling us about the time line

12662
02:29:36,329 --> 02:29:36,794
,

12663
02:29:36,794 --> 02:29:38,888
you said you wanted some kind o

12664
02:29:38,888 --> 02:29:38,888
f

12665
02:29:38,888 --> 02:29:40,461
direction related to -- I mean

12666
02:29:40,461 --> 02:29:41,161
,

12667
02:29:41,161 --> 02:29:43,699
kind of the broad swaths,

12668
02:29:43,699 --> 02:29:45,096
specifically east of waldo, the

12669
02:29:45,096 --> 02:29:45,433


12670
02:29:45,433 --> 02:29:47,334
9th to waldo, I don't see as

12671
02:29:47,334 --> 02:29:48,586
part of the motion in here.

12672
02:29:48,586 --> 02:29:51,096
>> no, we're specifically

12673
02:29:51,096 --> 02:29:51,672
looking for more east.

12674
02:29:51,672 --> 02:29:55,512
I don't know -- it was a median

12675
02:29:55,512 --> 02:29:55,512
,

12676
02:29:55,512 --> 02:29:58,046
10 foot wide on --

12677
02:29:58,046 --> 02:29:59,811
>> it was conceptual

12678
02:29:59,811 --> 02:30:00,657
recommendation for what we wou

12679
02:30:00,657 --> 02:30:00,657
ld

12680
02:30:00,657 --> 02:30:02,679
say, this is what we would

12681
02:30:02,679 --> 02:30:05,022
propose to put out here, if

12682
02:30:05,022 --> 02:30:06,526
we're going to do west waldo.

12683
02:30:06,526 --> 02:30:08,940
that would be resurfacing and

12684
02:30:08,940 --> 02:30:08,940


12685
02:30:08,940 --> 02:30:08,940
restriping.

12686
02:30:08,940 --> 02:30:11,410
adding a 10 foot top.

12687
02:30:11,410 --> 02:30:13,823
>> that's not in the

12688
02:30:13,823 --> 02:30:14,600
recommendation I saw in the

12689
02:30:14,600 --> 02:30:14,600
back?

12690
02:30:14,600 --> 02:30:16,860
>> 00, the last part, no.

12691
02:30:16,860 --> 02:30:18,210
>> yeah, for the direction,

12692
02:30:18,210 --> 02:30:19,874
which I think would be nice to

12693
02:30:19,874 --> 02:30:20,734


12694
02:30:20,734 --> 02:30:22,616
gear us in on which portion of

12695
02:30:22,616 --> 02:30:22,616


12696
02:30:22,616 --> 02:30:23,278
the direction.

12697
02:30:23,278 --> 02:30:25,510
that western portion is my

12698
02:30:25,510 --> 02:30:28,074
district, be and it's also whe

12699
02:30:28,074 --> 02:30:28,074
re

12700
02:30:28,074 --> 02:30:30,278
we're about to build citizens

12701
02:30:30,278 --> 02:30:30,278


12702
02:30:30,278 --> 02:30:31,722
field, and there's a lot of

12703
02:30:31,722 --> 02:30:32,338
questions within there.

12704
02:30:32,338 --> 02:30:33,876
yeah, I mean, I do think -- you

12705
02:30:33,876 --> 02:30:34,172


12706
02:30:34,172 --> 02:30:37,050
know, you have duvall, which I

12707
02:30:37,050 --> 02:30:37,094
s

12708
02:30:37,094 --> 02:30:38,796
now going to remain open it

12709
02:30:38,796 --> 02:30:40,327
seems, so this is a place where

12710
02:30:40,327 --> 02:30:40,588


12711
02:30:40,588 --> 02:30:42,720
kids are riding their bikes fro

12712
02:30:42,720 --> 02:30:42,720
m

12713
02:30:42,720 --> 02:30:46,761
the surroundi ing neighborhoods

12714
02:30:46,761 --> 02:30:47,498
to

12715
02:30:47,498 --> 02:30:47,498
[laughter]

12716
02:30:47,498 --> 02:30:52,077
>> I think there is lot of

12717
02:30:52,077 --> 02:30:52,574
benefit to having these

12718
02:30:52,574 --> 02:30:53,202
discussions about this, figurin

12719
02:30:53,202 --> 02:30:53,202
g

12720
02:30:53,202 --> 02:30:54,330
out what makes sense here and

12721
02:30:54,330 --> 02:30:55,634
where that makes sense, and so

12722
02:30:55,634 --> 02:30:55,634


12723
02:30:55,634 --> 02:30:57,468
yeah, I'm interested in seeing

12724
02:30:57,468 --> 02:30:57,468


12725
02:30:57,468 --> 02:30:58,634
how we can move forward this.

12726
02:30:58,634 --> 02:30:58,914
all right.

12727
02:30:58,914 --> 02:30:59,472
thank you.

12728
02:30:59,472 --> 02:31:00,008
>> mayor: thank you,

12729
02:31:00,008 --> 02:31:00,538
commissioner eastman.

12730
02:31:00,538 --> 02:31:03,612
commissioner willits.

12731
02:31:03,612 --> 02:31:05,494
>> thank you, mr. Mayor.

12732
02:31:05,494 --> 02:31:07,228
so just remind me, so our comp

12733
02:31:07,228 --> 02:31:07,228


12734
02:31:07,228 --> 02:31:08,746
plan says when we go to

12735
02:31:08,746 --> 02:31:11,486
resurface, this type of, you

12736
02:31:11,486 --> 02:31:13,376
know, road, we have to

12737
02:31:13,376 --> 02:31:13,376
consider.

12738
02:31:13,376 --> 02:31:14,559
that's why we're here today,

12739
02:31:14,559 --> 02:31:14,559
right?

12740
02:31:14,559 --> 02:31:16,621
because our comp plan says, hey

12741
02:31:16,621 --> 02:31:16,621
,

12742
02:31:16,621 --> 02:31:17,720
if you're going to spend a but

12743
02:31:17,720 --> 02:31:17,720
ch

12744
02:31:17,720 --> 02:31:19,588
of money on asphalt, is it tim

12745
02:31:19,588 --> 02:31:19,588
e

12746
02:31:19,588 --> 02:31:21,126
for something that we didn't

12747
02:31:21,126 --> 02:31:22,524
envision 30 years ago or 20

12748
02:31:22,524 --> 02:31:24,731
years ago or 15 when we last, s

12749
02:31:24,731 --> 02:31:24,731
o

12750
02:31:24,731 --> 02:31:26,914
this process is not because

12751
02:31:26,914 --> 02:31:27,908
someone on staff said hey this

12752
02:31:27,908 --> 02:31:27,908


12753
02:31:27,908 --> 02:31:29,003
is a good idea or anyone on the

12754
02:31:29,003 --> 02:31:29,003


12755
02:31:29,003 --> 02:31:29,003
commission.

12756
02:31:29,003 --> 02:31:31,616
it's just is that our process

12757
02:31:31,616 --> 02:31:32,788
from the comp plan which is, y

12758
02:31:32,788 --> 02:31:32,788
ou

12759
02:31:32,788 --> 02:31:35,008
know, like the plan for the cit

12760
02:31:35,008 --> 02:31:35,008
y

12761
02:31:35,008 --> 02:31:37,214
just, it says hey you're about

12762
02:31:37,214 --> 02:31:37,214


12763
02:31:37,214 --> 02:31:39,474
to resurface, go look at some

12764
02:31:39,474 --> 02:31:40,478
other options.

12765
02:31:40,478 --> 02:31:42,448
>> yes, our comp plan says tha

12766
02:31:42,448 --> 02:31:42,448
t

12767
02:31:42,448 --> 02:31:44,850
also our edcm, our engineering

12768
02:31:44,850 --> 02:31:44,850


12769
02:31:44,850 --> 02:31:46,290
design and construction manual.

12770
02:31:46,290 --> 02:31:46,290


12771
02:31:46,290 --> 02:31:48,120
the same as you would also

12772
02:31:48,120 --> 02:31:49,684
provide ada ramps you know, if

12773
02:31:49,684 --> 02:31:49,684


12774
02:31:49,684 --> 02:31:51,194
we're doing work like that we

12775
02:31:51,194 --> 02:31:53,690
would also upgrade the ramps

12776
02:31:53,690 --> 02:31:54,590
along the roadway.

12777
02:31:54,590 --> 02:31:55,794
>> right, okay, so I just want

12778
02:31:55,794 --> 02:31:55,794


12779
02:31:55,794 --> 02:31:57,226
to make sure I understand

12780
02:31:57,226 --> 02:31:58,530
because it's been asphalt, are

12781
02:31:58,530 --> 02:31:58,530


12782
02:31:58,530 --> 02:32:00,364
there safety improvements that

12783
02:32:00,364 --> 02:32:00,364


12784
02:32:00,364 --> 02:32:01,600
can be done, safety, ada

12785
02:32:01,600 --> 02:32:03,470
accessibility, issues.

12786
02:32:03,470 --> 02:32:05,681
while we're there.

12787
02:32:05,681 --> 02:32:08,854
while we're laying asphalts.

12788
02:32:08,854 --> 02:32:09,518
while that makes sense to look

12789
02:32:09,518 --> 02:32:09,518


12790
02:32:09,518 --> 02:32:09,754
at it.

12791
02:32:09,754 --> 02:32:11,478
questions and part of this is

12792
02:32:11,478 --> 02:32:13,844
because 8th avenue is this

12793
02:32:13,844 --> 02:32:15,278
weer beast because it's got all

12794
02:32:15,278 --> 02:32:15,278


12795
02:32:15,278 --> 02:32:16,250
these different sections.

12796
02:32:16,250 --> 02:32:18,244
just what we're talking about I

12797
02:32:18,244 --> 02:32:18,244
s

12798
02:32:18,244 --> 02:32:19,422
three different sections.

12799
02:32:19,422 --> 02:32:20,496
every section is a little bit

12800
02:32:20,496 --> 02:32:21,390
different and it's been cobbled

12801
02:32:21,390 --> 02:32:21,390


12802
02:32:21,390 --> 02:32:23,288
together over decades, some of

12803
02:32:23,288 --> 02:32:23,288


12804
02:32:23,288 --> 02:32:25,864
it's disjointed about biking

12805
02:32:25,864 --> 02:32:25,996


12806
02:32:25,996 --> 02:32:26,896
biking and walking and where

12807
02:32:26,896 --> 02:32:28,862
it's easy for buses and where

12808
02:32:28,862 --> 02:32:29,928
it's easy for cars and we're

12809
02:32:29,928 --> 02:32:30,598
going to continue to struggle

12810
02:32:30,598 --> 02:32:34,002
with this because city road and

12811
02:32:34,002 --> 02:32:34,002


12812
02:32:34,002 --> 02:32:36,198
state road in some sections,

12813
02:32:36,198 --> 02:32:36,198
unfortunately.

12814
02:32:36,198 --> 02:32:41,439
the thing that stuck out to me

12815
02:32:41,439 --> 02:32:41,439


12816
02:32:41,439 --> 02:32:42,677
was the traffic data on the

12817
02:32:42,677 --> 02:32:42,677
speed.

12818
02:32:42,677 --> 02:32:45,575
northeast 9th to waldo so the

12819
02:32:45,575 --> 02:32:48,084
western portion, posted at

12820
02:32:48,084 --> 02:32:50,523
35 miles an hour, and 8th

12821
02:32:50,523 --> 02:32:55,091
percentile is less than that.

12822
02:32:55,091 --> 02:32:57,621
yet from waldo to 22nd, posted

12823
02:32:57,621 --> 02:32:57,621


12824
02:32:57,621 --> 02:32:59,883
35 miles per hour, 38.3 miles

12825
02:32:59,883 --> 02:33:00,469
per hour.

12826
02:33:00,469 --> 02:33:01,920
that tells me the story of

12827
02:33:01,920 --> 02:33:03,634
engineering absolutely matters

12828
02:33:03,634 --> 02:33:03,634


12829
02:33:03,634 --> 02:33:05,665
because there is -- little

12830
02:33:05,665 --> 02:33:06,597
fundamental difference between

12831
02:33:06,597 --> 02:33:06,597


12832
02:33:06,597 --> 02:33:07,365
the people who are driving eas

12833
02:33:07,365 --> 02:33:07,365
t

12834
02:33:07,365 --> 02:33:09,471
and west to waldo.

12835
02:33:09,471 --> 02:33:11,103
they're people, they're

12836
02:33:11,103 --> 02:33:11,103
neighbors.

12837
02:33:11,103 --> 02:33:13,944
some of them are going the who

12838
02:33:13,944 --> 02:33:13,944
le

12839
02:33:13,944 --> 02:33:15,239
route, some of them are turning

12840
02:33:15,239 --> 02:33:15,239


12841
02:33:15,239 --> 02:33:15,778
at some point.

12842
02:33:15,778 --> 02:33:17,107
that tells me the engineering,

12843
02:33:17,107 --> 02:33:17,107


12844
02:33:17,107 --> 02:33:20,281
and why the people on the the

12845
02:33:20,281 --> 02:33:21,583
west side get the benefit of a

12846
02:33:21,583 --> 02:33:21,583


12847
02:33:21,583 --> 02:33:22,401
slower road.

12848
02:33:22,401 --> 02:33:23,517
you can say it's only 6 miles

12849
02:33:23,517 --> 02:33:24,039
per hour.

12850
02:33:24,039 --> 02:33:25,251
averaged out, that 85th

12851
02:33:25,251 --> 02:33:28,823
percentile, there are plenty o

12852
02:33:28,823 --> 02:33:28,823
f

12853
02:33:28,823 --> 02:33:29,817
people flying down the road,

12854
02:33:29,817 --> 02:33:31,231
particularly the section, you

12855
02:33:31,231 --> 02:33:33,967
know, between wawltdo and -- so

12856
02:33:33,967 --> 02:33:33,967


12857
02:33:33,967 --> 02:33:35,047
I think there is some sort of

12858
02:33:35,047 --> 02:33:35,764
infrastructure that needs to

12859
02:33:35,764 --> 02:33:37,093
happen that slows that down and

12860
02:33:37,093 --> 02:33:37,093


12861
02:33:37,093 --> 02:33:37,862
makes it safer.

12862
02:33:37,862 --> 02:33:38,399
what exactly?

12863
02:33:38,399 --> 02:33:39,765
we're going to have lot -- lots

12864
02:33:39,765 --> 02:33:39,765


12865
02:33:39,765 --> 02:33:40,757
of opinion in the community is

12866
02:33:40,757 --> 02:33:40,757


12867
02:33:40,757 --> 02:33:42,669
going to give us some.

12868
02:33:42,669 --> 02:33:45,874
but it's, you see 34 feet wide?

12869
02:33:45,874 --> 02:33:45,874


12870
02:33:45,874 --> 02:33:47,269
between wawltdo and 22nd?

12871
02:33:47,269 --> 02:33:49,217
waldo and 22nd?

12872
02:33:49,217 --> 02:33:50,847
like basically 17-foot travel

12873
02:33:50,847 --> 02:33:50,847
lanes.

12874
02:33:50,847 --> 02:33:52,513
>> there are segments where it'

12875
02:33:52,513 --> 02:33:52,513
s

12876
02:33:52,513 --> 02:33:53,181
35 even wider.

12877
02:33:53,181 --> 02:33:55,006
>> what did we just agree to

12878
02:33:55,006 --> 02:33:59,649
northeast 9th and mr.--

12879
02:33:59,649 --> 02:34:02,060
northeast, is it 9th where we

12880
02:34:02,060 --> 02:34:03,361
had, we're doing work on that,

12881
02:34:03,361 --> 02:34:03,361


12882
02:34:03,361 --> 02:34:05,321
9th street, and there was an

12883
02:34:05,321 --> 02:34:07,145
argument whether it was 11 1/2

12884
02:34:07,145 --> 02:34:07,145


12885
02:34:07,145 --> 02:34:09,391
foot lanes versus, do we end u

12886
02:34:09,391 --> 02:34:09,391
p

12887
02:34:09,391 --> 02:34:10,205
on 11 1/2?

12888
02:34:10,205 --> 02:34:13,341
>> 10 1/2 foot lanes.

12889
02:34:13,341 --> 02:34:15,777
>> did we end up on 10   10 1/

12890
02:34:15,777 --> 02:34:15,777
2?

12891
02:34:15,777 --> 02:34:17,273
I thought we ended up on

12892
02:34:17,273 --> 02:34:17,743
11 1/2.

12893
02:34:17,743 --> 02:34:21,439
so just for some example like I

12894
02:34:21,439 --> 02:34:21,439


12895
02:34:21,439 --> 02:34:23,809
think those lanes need to be

12896
02:34:23,809 --> 02:34:24,601
narrowed some way.

12897
02:34:24,601 --> 02:34:27,357
the quick    quick easy is you

12898
02:34:27,357 --> 02:34:29,417
put

12899
02:34:29,417 --> 02:34:30,407
a lane of parking in on the

12900
02:34:30,407 --> 02:34:32,683
south side so it's still

12901
02:34:32,683 --> 02:34:33,689
available for parking, church,

12902
02:34:33,689 --> 02:34:33,689


12903
02:34:33,689 --> 02:34:36,653
you know, events, something

12904
02:34:36,653 --> 02:34:37,447
needs to happen on that

12905
02:34:37,447 --> 02:34:37,447
section.

12906
02:34:37,447 --> 02:34:40,159
and and the crash data seem to

12907
02:34:40,159 --> 02:34:40,159


12908
02:34:40,159 --> 02:34:41,759
suggest that.

12909
02:34:41,759 --> 02:34:43,867
what exactly, the idea of a

12910
02:34:43,867 --> 02:34:46,503
10-foot path from 22nd and

12911
02:34:46,503 --> 02:34:48,703
that street not terrace, right

12912
02:34:48,703 --> 02:34:48,703
?

12913
02:34:48,703 --> 02:34:50,787
northwest 22nd street.

12914
02:34:50,787 --> 02:34:51,173
>> yes.

12915
02:34:51,173 --> 02:34:53,097
>> 26th street, yes.

12916
02:34:53,097 --> 02:34:53,981
>> there are two houses on that

12917
02:34:53,981 --> 02:34:53,981


12918
02:34:53,981 --> 02:34:54,939
corner right there on the corne

12919
02:34:54,939 --> 02:34:54,939
r

12920
02:34:54,939 --> 02:34:56,141
that are, that abut the

12921
02:34:56,141 --> 02:34:56,141
sidewalk.

12922
02:34:56,141 --> 02:34:59,847
I mean, I don't know, their

12923
02:34:59,847 --> 02:35:01,635
stoop is two feet from the

12924
02:35:01,635 --> 02:35:02,681
sidewalk, and then there's you

12925
02:35:02,681 --> 02:35:02,681


12926
02:35:02,681 --> 02:35:05,093
know there's a grass strip

12927
02:35:05,093 --> 02:35:05,887
between the sidewalk and the

12928
02:35:05,887 --> 02:35:07,197
street but a 10-foot path there

12929
02:35:07,197 --> 02:35:07,197


12930
02:35:07,197 --> 02:35:10,692
eats up from their front door

12931
02:35:10,692 --> 02:35:11,991
it's nothing but sidewalk.

12932
02:35:11,991 --> 02:35:14,503
plus 34th feet of or however

12933
02:35:14,503 --> 02:35:18,137
many feet of section of asphalt

12934
02:35:18,137 --> 02:35:18,137


12935
02:35:18,137 --> 02:35:18,785
on the other side so that

12936
02:35:18,785 --> 02:35:19,765
doesn't sound pleasant.

12937
02:35:19,765 --> 02:35:24,140
so, and what -- so there's no

12938
02:35:24,140 --> 02:35:27,639
discussion of maybe we just,

12939
02:35:27,639 --> 02:35:31,477
what if you had a two-way cycle

12940
02:35:31,477 --> 02:35:31,477


12941
02:35:31,477 --> 02:35:32,994
lane on the north side of the

12942
02:35:32,994 --> 02:35:33,784
road where you took out the

12943
02:35:33,784 --> 02:35:35,194
medians from northeast 9th to

12944
02:35:35,194 --> 02:35:37,541
waldo, so that you don't have t

12945
02:35:37,541 --> 02:35:37,541
o

12946
02:35:37,541 --> 02:35:38,727
create a 10-foot path on the

12947
02:35:38,727 --> 02:35:39,786
north side.

12948
02:35:39,786 --> 02:35:40,864
I'm trying to think of lots of

12949
02:35:40,864 --> 02:35:40,864


12950
02:35:40,864 --> 02:35:42,849
different ways, things that we

12951
02:35:42,849 --> 02:35:42,849


12952
02:35:42,849 --> 02:35:49,205
find in the nack    nacto

12953
02:35:49,205 --> 02:35:49,205
standards.

12954
02:35:49,205 --> 02:35:50,168
that's not a question.

12955
02:35:50,168 --> 02:35:51,398
I'm going to keep on moving on

12956
02:35:51,398 --> 02:35:51,398


12957
02:35:51,398 --> 02:35:52,501
with maybe some more comments

12958
02:35:52,501 --> 02:35:55,633
about is there any way that we

12959
02:35:55,633 --> 02:35:55,633


12960
02:35:55,633 --> 02:35:58,641
could do more envisioning where

12961
02:35:58,641 --> 02:35:58,641


12962
02:35:58,641 --> 02:36:00,003
we you know go out and put the

12963
02:36:00,003 --> 02:36:00,003


12964
02:36:00,003 --> 02:36:02,052
cones and show what it would

12965
02:36:02,052 --> 02:36:03,843
look like, particularly in wal

12966
02:36:03,843 --> 02:36:03,843
do

12967
02:36:03,843 --> 02:36:06,041
to 22nd, so what a potential

12968
02:36:06,041 --> 02:36:07,954
could look at.

12969
02:36:07,954 --> 02:36:08,709
you put out the cones and you

12970
02:36:08,709 --> 02:36:10,319
tell the neighborhood, hey, we

12971
02:36:10,319 --> 02:36:10,319


12972
02:36:10,319 --> 02:36:11,025
just seeing what it would look

12973
02:36:11,025 --> 02:36:11,025


12974
02:36:11,025 --> 02:36:12,517
like and then people go, oh, I

12975
02:36:12,517 --> 02:36:12,517


12976
02:36:12,517 --> 02:36:14,359
would like the lane to be

12977
02:36:14,359 --> 02:36:18,196
narrower or whatever.

12978
02:36:18,196 --> 02:36:19,495
so it's just a thought.

12979
02:36:19,495 --> 02:36:21,119
I know this is early in the

12980
02:36:21,119 --> 02:36:21,119
process.

12981
02:36:21,119 --> 02:36:25,563
when I saw the work of the, the

12982
02:36:25,563 --> 02:36:25,563


12983
02:36:25,563 --> 02:36:27,611
outreach, I even thought this I

12984
02:36:27,611 --> 02:36:27,611
s

12985
02:36:27,611 --> 02:36:27,611
rushed.

12986
02:36:27,611 --> 02:36:29,678
normally we get outreach and

12987
02:36:29,678 --> 02:36:31,534
couple months later, you know,

12988
02:36:31,534 --> 02:36:31,534


12989
02:36:31,534 --> 02:36:34,512
things have trickled up to us

12990
02:36:34,512 --> 02:36:37,260
and we hear some and we go oh

12991
02:36:37,260 --> 02:36:39,552
yeah, we're going to drive and

12992
02:36:39,552 --> 02:36:39,552


12993
02:36:39,552 --> 02:36:41,417
see what people were talking

12994
02:36:41,417 --> 02:36:41,417
about.

12995
02:36:41,417 --> 02:36:43,146
this feels a little fast.

12996
02:36:43,146 --> 02:36:44,118
I don't understand why it's so

12997
02:36:44,118 --> 02:36:44,118


12998
02:36:44,118 --> 02:36:45,118
compressed getting back to us

12999
02:36:45,118 --> 02:36:47,760
after that amount of feedback.

13000
02:36:47,760 --> 02:36:47,760


13001
02:36:47,760 --> 02:36:48,832
let me see if there is anything

13002
02:36:48,832 --> 02:36:48,832


13003
02:36:48,832 --> 02:36:51,598
else like a specific.

13004
02:36:51,598 --> 02:36:52,830
where they said, you said there

13005
02:36:52,830 --> 02:36:52,830


13006
02:36:52,830 --> 02:36:53,698
was a lot of trees on one of th

13007
02:36:53,698 --> 02:36:53,698
e

13008
02:36:53,698 --> 02:36:53,698
sides.

13009
02:36:53,698 --> 02:36:55,404
I think they said north side

13010
02:36:55,404 --> 02:36:56,930
with the 10-foot path is that

13011
02:36:56,930 --> 02:36:57,933
the eastern portion or the

13012
02:36:57,933 --> 02:36:58,910
western portion?

13013
02:36:58,910 --> 02:37:00,313
>> eastern portion.

13014
02:37:00,313 --> 02:37:03,504
>> eastern, oi got that

13015
02:37:03,504 --> 02:37:03,504
confused.

13016
02:37:03,504 --> 02:37:05,068
thanks for -- and --

13017
02:37:05,068 --> 02:37:07,784
>> [off mic]

13018
02:37:07,784 --> 02:37:08,684
bullet we would go out there

13019
02:37:08,684 --> 02:37:09,882
with an arborist to make sure

13020
02:37:09,882 --> 02:37:11,196
they're healthy and not --

13021
02:37:11,196 --> 02:37:11,769
>> thank you and the concern

13022
02:37:11,769 --> 02:37:13,484
over median opens, again, was

13023
02:37:13,484 --> 02:37:16,882
that the section west of waldo

13024
02:37:16,882 --> 02:37:16,882
?

13025
02:37:16,882 --> 02:37:19,746
so potential median.

13026
02:37:19,746 --> 02:37:20,920
okay it was concerns.

13027
02:37:20,920 --> 02:37:24,896
it wasn't over existing --

13028
02:37:24,896 --> 02:37:26,510
sorry, we are talking about lot

13029
02:37:26,510 --> 02:37:26,510
s

13030
02:37:26,510 --> 02:37:27,364
of different sections.

13031
02:37:27,364 --> 02:37:27,983
>> mm-hmm.

13032
02:37:27,983 --> 02:37:28,332
it's a lot.

13033
02:37:28,332 --> 02:37:32,076
so each of those little diamond

13034
02:37:32,076 --> 02:37:32,076


13035
02:37:32,076 --> 02:37:33,274
stick points, that's a driveway

13036
02:37:33,274 --> 02:37:33,274


13037
02:37:33,274 --> 02:37:33,274
access.

13038
02:37:33,274 --> 02:37:36,992
>> right.

13039
02:37:36,992 --> 02:37:37,766
>> so nose are all the

13040
02:37:37,766 --> 02:37:38,958
openings -- those are all the

13041
02:37:38,958 --> 02:37:38,958
openings.

13042
02:37:38,958 --> 02:37:40,704
so the medians, those would be

13043
02:37:40,704 --> 02:37:40,704


13044
02:37:40,704 --> 02:37:41,710
the two options.

13045
02:37:41,710 --> 02:37:44,288
in terms of the concerns with

13046
02:37:44,288 --> 02:37:46,288
median openings, is that what

13047
02:37:46,288 --> 02:37:46,812
you're asking?

13048
02:37:46,812 --> 02:37:47,810
>> yeah, I thought -- I that

13049
02:37:47,810 --> 02:37:49,354
thought was coming from I think

13050
02:37:49,354 --> 02:37:49,354


13051
02:37:49,354 --> 02:37:50,206
the neighbors.

13052
02:37:50,206 --> 02:37:50,893
>> west waldo.

13053
02:37:50,893 --> 02:37:51,250
I'm sorry.

13054
02:37:51,250 --> 02:37:51,790
I misunderstood.

13055
02:37:51,790 --> 02:37:52,888
>> yeah, so that was the west o

13056
02:37:52,888 --> 02:37:52,888
f

13057
02:37:52,888 --> 02:37:53,577
waldo section.

13058
02:37:53,577 --> 02:37:54,850
is that there weren't enough?

13059
02:37:54,850 --> 02:37:57,255
or there -- too many -- I don't

13060
02:37:57,255 --> 02:37:57,255
,

13061
02:37:57,255 --> 02:37:57,706
what was the concern.

13062
02:37:57,706 --> 02:37:59,023
>> some of the median, like the

13063
02:37:59,023 --> 02:37:59,023


13064
02:37:59,023 --> 02:38:00,524
actual turn lane lengths they

13065
02:38:00,524 --> 02:38:01,866
felt were short.

13066
02:38:01,866 --> 02:38:03,062
when we did look at the crash

13067
02:38:03,062 --> 02:38:05,360
data nothing stuck out to

13068
02:38:05,360 --> 02:38:06,576
indicate that they were a

13069
02:38:06,576 --> 02:38:06,576
problem.

13070
02:38:06,576 --> 02:38:10,317
but I guess as, when I was

13071
02:38:10,317 --> 02:38:11,451
driving through there doing sit

13072
02:38:11,451 --> 02:38:11,451
e

13073
02:38:11,451 --> 02:38:13,406
visits taking pictures, things

13074
02:38:13,406 --> 02:38:13,406


13075
02:38:13,406 --> 02:38:14,472
like that even just driving

13076
02:38:14,472 --> 02:38:15,348
along I could see where someone

13077
02:38:15,348 --> 02:38:15,348


13078
02:38:15,348 --> 02:38:16,741
would be up comfortable with the

13079
02:38:16,741 --> 02:38:16,741


13080
02:38:16,741 --> 02:38:19,244
rush to get into a shorter tur

13081
02:38:19,244 --> 02:38:19,244
n

13082
02:38:19,244 --> 02:38:19,244
lane.

13083
02:38:19,244 --> 02:38:20,906
>> well if they were going 38

13084
02:38:20,906 --> 02:38:22,248
instead of 32 I can imagine it

13085
02:38:22,248 --> 02:38:22,248


13086
02:38:22,248 --> 02:38:22,490
felt --

13087
02:38:22,490 --> 02:38:22,490
[laughter]

13088
02:38:22,490 --> 02:38:24,901
>> so.

13089
02:38:24,901 --> 02:38:25,430
>> okay, that helps me

13090
02:38:25,430 --> 02:38:26,366
understand a little bit about

13091
02:38:26,366 --> 02:38:28,206
that concern because just the

13092
02:38:28,206 --> 02:38:29,684
fact that it's so much slower,

13093
02:38:29,684 --> 02:38:29,684


13094
02:38:29,684 --> 02:38:31,332
six miles an hour on average

13095
02:38:31,332 --> 02:38:34,200
slower, on a street that is

13096
02:38:34,200 --> 02:38:36,658
signaled higher you know or yit

13097
02:38:36,658 --> 02:38:39,998
tells me we did maybe

13098
02:38:39,998 --> 02:38:41,551
some -- on that section -- the

13099
02:38:41,551 --> 02:38:41,551


13100
02:38:41,551 --> 02:38:45,705
other section needs something.

13101
02:38:45,705 --> 02:38:45,705


13102
02:38:45,705 --> 02:38:46,918
I think that's, I think that's

13103
02:38:46,918 --> 02:38:46,918


13104
02:38:46,918 --> 02:38:48,775
all I got for -- oh, and just,

13105
02:38:48,775 --> 02:38:48,775


13106
02:38:48,775 --> 02:38:50,272
oh, just the idea is also like,

13107
02:38:50,272 --> 02:38:50,272


13108
02:38:50,272 --> 02:38:51,510
is there any opportunity for

13109
02:38:51,510 --> 02:38:52,582
quick build things where we,

13110
02:38:52,582 --> 02:38:55,596
where we don't spend 3 or

13111
02:38:55,596 --> 02:38:56,517
$5 million where we do put in

13112
02:38:56,517 --> 02:38:59,918
things that are much more quick

13113
02:38:59,918 --> 02:38:59,918
,

13114
02:38:59,918 --> 02:39:02,458
temporary, try for six months,

13115
02:39:02,458 --> 02:39:03,654
I

13116
02:39:03,654 --> 02:39:05,830
just had that, and then, sorry

13117
02:39:05,830 --> 02:39:05,830
,

13118
02:39:05,830 --> 02:39:07,558
that's -- maybe this is just

13119
02:39:07,558 --> 02:39:08,425
conversation for my colleagues

13120
02:39:08,425 --> 02:39:08,425


13121
02:39:08,425 --> 02:39:09,430
to hear.

13122
02:39:09,430 --> 02:39:12,381
and then can you, this is one

13123
02:39:12,381 --> 02:39:13,296
you may be able to answer.

13124
02:39:13,296 --> 02:39:15,973
why is there hashing on the

13125
02:39:15,973 --> 02:39:17,103
eastern portion in front of the

13126
02:39:17,103 --> 02:39:17,103


13127
02:39:17,103 --> 02:39:19,511
slab basically at 17th.

13128
02:39:19,511 --> 02:39:20,636
there is some hashing s. That t

13129
02:39:20,636 --> 02:39:20,636
o

13130
02:39:20,636 --> 02:39:21,799
keep people from parking there

13131
02:39:21,799 --> 02:39:21,799


13132
02:39:21,799 --> 02:39:23,007
on the north side?

13133
02:39:23,007 --> 02:39:24,016
it's kind of marked off.

13134
02:39:24,016 --> 02:39:25,542
it's not parking, but it -- lik

13135
02:39:25,542 --> 02:39:25,542
e

13136
02:39:25,542 --> 02:39:26,516
I said it's got a hash mark.

13137
02:39:26,516 --> 02:39:28,370
is that to keep people from

13138
02:39:28,370 --> 02:39:29,520
parking there.

13139
02:39:29,520 --> 02:39:30,480
>> because the lane is 17-foot

13140
02:39:30,480 --> 02:39:30,480


13141
02:39:30,480 --> 02:39:30,480
wide?

13142
02:39:30,480 --> 02:39:34,224
>> it's right there by steven

13143
02:39:34,224 --> 02:39:34,224
kelly.

13144
02:39:34,224 --> 02:39:35,302
>> that was part of an

13145
02:39:35,302 --> 02:39:36,837
initiative a few years back to

13146
02:39:36,837 --> 02:39:36,837


13147
02:39:36,837 --> 02:39:38,024
prevent people from parking

13148
02:39:38,024 --> 02:39:38,024
there.

13149
02:39:38,024 --> 02:39:39,899
there are no parking signs and

13150
02:39:39,899 --> 02:39:39,899


13151
02:39:39,899 --> 02:39:43,296
the hatching is just to enforce

13152
02:39:43,296 --> 02:39:43,296


13153
02:39:43,296 --> 02:39:43,296
that.

13154
02:39:43,296 --> 02:39:44,275
>> I think that's my example o

13155
02:39:44,275 --> 02:39:44,275
f

13156
02:39:44,275 --> 02:39:45,369
that kind of quick build to see

13157
02:39:45,369 --> 02:39:45,369


13158
02:39:45,369 --> 02:39:47,538
how it goes, does it help, not

13159
02:39:47,538 --> 02:39:47,538


13160
02:39:47,538 --> 02:39:49,867
the millions of dollars where -

13161
02:39:49,867 --> 02:39:49,867
-

13162
02:39:49,867 --> 02:39:51,508
where there is -- because that

13163
02:39:51,508 --> 02:39:51,508


13164
02:39:51,508 --> 02:39:52,187
came I believe from community

13165
02:39:52,187 --> 02:39:53,283
feedback originally, right?

13166
02:39:53,283 --> 02:39:54,019
>> it came from the community

13167
02:39:54,019 --> 02:39:56,110
and gpd it was a request that

13168
02:39:56,110 --> 02:39:58,179
was facilitated from them to

13169
02:39:58,179 --> 02:39:59,910
public works to facilitate.

13170
02:39:59,910 --> 02:40:00,365
>> okay.

13171
02:40:00,365 --> 02:40:02,993
I just, I bring that out as an

13172
02:40:02,993 --> 02:40:02,993


13173
02:40:02,993 --> 02:40:04,955
example where we did a small

13174
02:40:04,955 --> 02:40:05,962
intervention to see if it

13175
02:40:05,962 --> 02:40:07,541
helped, and I don't know about

13176
02:40:07,541 --> 02:40:07,541


13177
02:40:07,541 --> 02:40:10,365
the feedback since then, but

13178
02:40:10,365 --> 02:40:12,098
because it's 17-foot wide lane

13179
02:40:12,098 --> 02:40:12,098


13180
02:40:12,098 --> 02:40:13,059
you could do that.

13181
02:40:13,059 --> 02:40:14,834
those lanes are way too wide.

13182
02:40:14,834 --> 02:40:19,671
one-way or another they need to

13183
02:40:19,671 --> 02:40:19,671


13184
02:40:19,671 --> 02:40:20,918
be narrowed pee people street I

13185
02:40:20,918 --> 02:40:20,918
t

13186
02:40:20,918 --> 02:40:22,757
like the -- so that people

13187
02:40:22,757 --> 02:40:25,010
street it   treat it like the

13188
02:40:25,010 --> 02:40:26,447
neighborhood street it is.

13189
02:40:26,447 --> 02:40:27,395
thank you, mr. Mayor.

13190
02:40:27,395 --> 02:40:28,074
>> mayor: I would encourage

13191
02:40:28,074 --> 02:40:29,081
everybody let's not try to

13192
02:40:29,081 --> 02:40:30,275
design the road today because

13193
02:40:30,275 --> 02:40:31,219
that's not where we are in the

13194
02:40:31,219 --> 02:40:31,219


13195
02:40:31,219 --> 02:40:33,647
process at all.

13196
02:40:33,647 --> 02:40:42,119
there is.

13197
02:40:42,119 --> 02:40:43,393
we have three lights and we ar

13198
02:40:43,393 --> 02:40:43,393
e

13199
02:40:43,393 --> 02:40:45,088
trying to hear from the public,

13200
02:40:45,088 --> 02:40:45,088


13201
02:40:45,088 --> 02:40:46,833
but we are not in that phase.

13202
02:40:46,833 --> 02:40:48,328
>> yes, mayor, I'm not in the

13203
02:40:48,328 --> 02:40:49,232
design phase, either, so thank

13204
02:40:49,232 --> 02:40:49,232


13205
02:40:49,232 --> 02:40:50,660
you to staff and thank you to

13206
02:40:50,660 --> 02:40:52,836
nv5 for providing some

13207
02:40:52,836 --> 02:40:56,400
conceptual plans and ideas.

13208
02:40:56,400 --> 02:40:57,339
it's a great start.

13209
02:40:57,339 --> 02:40:59,768
commissioner dunker walker sai

13210
02:40:59,768 --> 02:40:59,768
d

13211
02:40:59,768 --> 02:41:03,640
that -- duncan-walker.

13212
02:41:03,640 --> 02:41:05,579
2700 block of northeast 8th

13213
02:41:05,579 --> 02:41:07,521
avenue wants to do all the way

13214
02:41:07,521 --> 02:41:07,521


13215
02:41:07,521 --> 02:41:09,915
to 9th street, the 900 block,

13216
02:41:09,915 --> 02:41:12,557
and so the designs are great.

13217
02:41:12,557 --> 02:41:14,267
but there is a number of

13218
02:41:14,267 --> 02:41:15,734
faith-based and community and

13219
02:41:15,734 --> 02:41:18,619
resident leaders here, and, and

13220
02:41:18,619 --> 02:41:18,619


13221
02:41:18,619 --> 02:41:20,253
they'll be great opportunity t

13222
02:41:20,253 --> 02:41:20,253
o

13223
02:41:20,253 --> 02:41:21,234
reach out through those

13224
02:41:21,234 --> 02:41:22,334
networks, especially the

13225
02:41:22,334 --> 02:41:23,365
churches because there's five

13226
02:41:23,365 --> 02:41:25,133
churches right there on the

13227
02:41:25,133 --> 02:41:26,926
northeast 8th avenue --

13228
02:41:26,926 --> 02:41:31,709
>> northeast 8th avenue.

13229
02:41:31,709 --> 02:41:32,319
>> 808.

13230
02:41:32,319 --> 02:41:33,477
>> what she said.

13231
02:41:33,477 --> 02:41:33,477
8.

13232
02:41:33,477 --> 02:41:36,009
so, I was thinking from

13233
02:41:36,009 --> 02:41:38,841
northeast from 15th street to

13234
02:41:38,841 --> 02:41:39,735
25th street there were five

13235
02:41:39,735 --> 02:41:40,242
right there.

13236
02:41:40,242 --> 02:41:41,285
did I miss -- there are three

13237
02:41:41,285 --> 02:41:41,285
more?

13238
02:41:41,285 --> 02:41:41,285
okay.

13239
02:41:41,285 --> 02:41:44,880
so to those other three churche

13240
02:41:44,880 --> 02:41:44,880
s

13241
02:41:44,880 --> 02:41:48,124
sorry because I know there are

13242
02:41:48,124 --> 02:41:48,124


13243
02:41:48,124 --> 02:41:48,383
five at least.

13244
02:41:48,383 --> 02:41:48,843
at least that many.

13245
02:41:48,843 --> 02:41:51,099
but -- to get information so I'm

13246
02:41:51,099 --> 02:41:51,099


13247
02:41:51,099 --> 02:41:53,225
very interested in hearing wha

13248
02:41:53,225 --> 02:41:53,225
t

13249
02:41:53,225 --> 02:41:54,427
the people who are here have t

13250
02:41:54,427 --> 02:41:54,427
o

13251
02:41:54,427 --> 02:41:57,263
say about the designs, what the

13252
02:41:57,263 --> 02:41:57,263
y

13253
02:41:57,263 --> 02:41:58,337
may be interested in and the

13254
02:41:58,337 --> 02:41:59,386
mechanisms that we're going to

13255
02:41:59,386 --> 02:41:59,386


13256
02:41:59,386 --> 02:42:00,243
do to find out more.

13257
02:42:00,243 --> 02:42:01,096
at one question for you,

13258
02:42:01,096 --> 02:42:03,839
mr. Manager, before we hear fro

13259
02:42:03,839 --> 02:42:03,839
m

13260
02:42:03,839 --> 02:42:05,371
I hope we go right to public.

13261
02:42:05,371 --> 02:42:07,880
they've been waiting for a lon

13262
02:42:07,880 --> 02:42:07,880
g

13263
02:42:07,880 --> 02:42:07,880
time.

13264
02:42:07,880 --> 02:42:10,985
is if all we did today, I felt

13265
02:42:10,985 --> 02:42:10,985


13266
02:42:10,985 --> 02:42:11,815
no pressure to make a decision

13267
02:42:11,815 --> 02:42:11,815


13268
02:42:11,815 --> 02:42:13,145
today, none at all, especially

13269
02:42:13,145 --> 02:42:13,145


13270
02:42:13,145 --> 02:42:15,422
the folks showing up,

13271
02:42:15,422 --> 02:42:16,516
if all w did was say okay,

13272
02:42:16,516 --> 02:42:19,649
let's get some more robust

13273
02:42:19,649 --> 02:42:20,463
information, that would not

13274
02:42:20,463 --> 02:42:21,455
require a motion because that'

13275
02:42:21,455 --> 02:42:21,455
s

13276
02:42:21,455 --> 02:42:23,171
something you would do on in th

13277
02:42:23,171 --> 02:42:23,171
e

13278
02:42:23,171 --> 02:42:24,627
diseme of things or would you b

13279
02:42:24,627 --> 02:42:24,627
e

13280
02:42:24,627 --> 02:42:25,428
looking for something from

13281
02:42:25,428 --> 02:42:27,497
someone on the dais?

13282
02:42:27,497 --> 02:42:28,259
>> I think a motion would be

13283
02:42:28,259 --> 02:42:28,259
appropriate.

13284
02:42:28,259 --> 02:42:30,335
>> okay.

13285
02:42:30,335 --> 02:42:30,589
all right.

13286
02:42:30,589 --> 02:42:31,493
well that's something to

13287
02:42:31,493 --> 02:42:31,493
consider.

13288
02:42:31,493 --> 02:42:34,797
I'd love to hear from all the

13289
02:42:34,797 --> 02:42:36,586
people who've probably been

13290
02:42:36,586 --> 02:42:37,848
waiting for a while, mr. Mayor.

13291
02:42:37,848 --> 02:42:37,848


13292
02:42:37,848 --> 02:42:38,369
>> mayor: thank you,

13293
02:42:38,369 --> 02:42:38,793
commissioner book.

13294
02:42:38,793 --> 02:42:41,611
commissioner ingle.

13295
02:42:41,611 --> 02:42:42,608
>> just kind of short and sweet

13296
02:42:42,608 --> 02:42:42,608


13297
02:42:42,608 --> 02:42:42,911
on this.

13298
02:42:42,911 --> 02:42:44,065
it certainly sounds like the

13299
02:42:44,065 --> 02:42:45,114
community doesn't feel like it'

13300
02:42:45,114 --> 02:42:45,114
s

13301
02:42:45,114 --> 02:42:47,185
been heard.

13302
02:42:47,185 --> 02:42:48,811
look forward to hearing public

13303
02:42:48,811 --> 02:42:48,811


13304
02:42:48,811 --> 02:42:50,917
comment on this, but in general

13305
02:42:50,917 --> 02:42:50,917


13306
02:42:50,917 --> 02:42:53,083
my first kind of reaction is

13307
02:42:53,083 --> 02:42:54,533
just the inclination to table

13308
02:42:54,533 --> 02:42:56,393
this until we've got some bette

13309
02:42:56,393 --> 02:42:56,393
r

13310
02:42:56,393 --> 02:42:58,566
community feedback.

13311
02:42:58,566 --> 02:42:59,939
we don't have construction fun

13312
02:42:59,939 --> 02:42:59,939
ds

13313
02:42:59,939 --> 02:43:00,323
for it.

13314
02:43:00,323 --> 02:43:01,222
there is nothing pressing.

13315
02:43:01,222 --> 02:43:03,407
there is no thing going on so

13316
02:43:03,407 --> 02:43:03,407
as

13317
02:43:03,407 --> 02:43:04,247
far as I can see there is no

13318
02:43:04,247 --> 02:43:08,663
downside to tabling this and

13319
02:43:08,663 --> 02:43:09,835
getting some better community

13320
02:43:09,835 --> 02:43:11,938
feedback on that.

13321
02:43:11,938 --> 02:43:13,043
that being said, I'm sure there

13322
02:43:13,043 --> 02:43:13,043


13323
02:43:13,043 --> 02:43:13,927
are a lot of people here to tal

13324
02:43:13,927 --> 02:43:13,927
k

13325
02:43:13,927 --> 02:43:17,305
so I will be happy to hear fro

13326
02:43:17,305 --> 02:43:17,305
m

13327
02:43:17,305 --> 02:43:18,074
them now.

13328
02:43:18,074 --> 02:43:18,790
>> mayor: commissioner duncan

13329
02:43:18,790 --> 02:43:20,493
and then I've gut a brief

13330
02:43:20,493 --> 02:43:21,349
comment and then we will go to

13331
02:43:21,349 --> 02:43:21,349


13332
02:43:21,349 --> 02:43:21,787
the public.

13333
02:43:21,787 --> 02:43:22,883
>> thank you, mr. Mayor, and I

13334
02:43:22,883 --> 02:43:22,883


13335
02:43:22,883 --> 02:43:23,923
know I said y wasn't going to

13336
02:43:23,923 --> 02:43:25,287
say anything until after the

13337
02:43:25,287 --> 02:43:25,287
public.

13338
02:43:25,287 --> 02:43:27,592
I lied.

13339
02:43:27,592 --> 02:43:29,222
but only to say this.

13340
02:43:29,222 --> 02:43:30,435
it is important to consider the

13341
02:43:30,435 --> 02:43:30,435


13342
02:43:30,435 --> 02:43:33,067
functionality of this street.

13343
02:43:33,067 --> 02:43:35,995
not just the street where peopl

13344
02:43:35,995 --> 02:43:35,995
e

13345
02:43:35,995 --> 02:43:36,998
just drive past.

13346
02:43:36,998 --> 02:43:38,199
there are a number of activitie

13347
02:43:38,199 --> 02:43:38,199
s

13348
02:43:38,199 --> 02:43:39,832
that take place on this street,

13349
02:43:39,832 --> 02:43:39,832


13350
02:43:39,832 --> 02:43:40,928
and what I would've been

13351
02:43:40,928 --> 02:43:43,101
interested in hearing in today

13352
02:43:43,101 --> 02:43:43,101
's

13353
02:43:43,101 --> 02:43:44,735
conversation since your

13354
02:43:44,735 --> 02:43:46,183
recommendation is to get us to

13355
02:43:46,183 --> 02:43:46,183


13356
02:43:46,183 --> 02:43:49,015
do something today that I'm not

13357
02:43:49,015 --> 02:43:49,015


13358
02:43:49,015 --> 02:43:50,458
interested in doing, I would'v

13359
02:43:50,458 --> 02:43:50,458
e

13360
02:43:50,458 --> 02:43:52,517
been interested in you telling

13361
02:43:52,517 --> 02:43:52,517


13362
02:43:52,517 --> 02:43:53,817
us how much on-street parking

13363
02:43:53,817 --> 02:43:55,150
there currently is.

13364
02:43:55,150 --> 02:43:56,996
because many of the eight

13365
02:43:56,996 --> 02:43:58,656
churches that I just told you

13366
02:43:58,656 --> 02:44:00,093
there were on northeast 8th

13367
02:44:00,093 --> 02:44:01,485
avenue take advantage of that

13368
02:44:01,485 --> 02:44:02,500
onstreit parking.

13369
02:44:02,500 --> 02:44:04,895
not just for sunday services o

13370
02:44:04,895 --> 02:44:04,895
r

13371
02:44:04,895 --> 02:44:05,997
saturday services at the 7th

13372
02:44:05,997 --> 02:44:07,965
day adventant church but for t

13373
02:44:07,965 --> 02:44:07,965
he

13374
02:44:07,965 --> 02:44:09,595
mere yatd of services that --

13375
02:44:09,595 --> 02:44:10,211
myriad of services they

13376
02:44:10,211 --> 02:44:10,211
provide.

13377
02:44:10,211 --> 02:44:11,806
many of the residents in that

13378
02:44:11,806 --> 02:44:18,685
community utilize thrking -- p

13379
02:44:18,685 --> 02:44:18,685
ark

13380
02:44:18,685 --> 02:44:25,287
there -- there was a slide in

13381
02:44:25,287 --> 02:44:26,913
the public works presentation a

13382
02:44:26,913 --> 02:44:26,913


13383
02:44:26,913 --> 02:44:28,805
little bit earlier today, and I

13384
02:44:28,805 --> 02:44:28,805


13385
02:44:28,805 --> 02:44:29,737
don't -- you don't have to pul

13386
02:44:29,737 --> 02:44:29,737
l

13387
02:44:29,737 --> 02:44:31,557
it up right now, but it was on

13388
02:44:31,557 --> 02:44:31,557


13389
02:44:31,557 --> 02:44:32,597
page 53.

13390
02:44:32,597 --> 02:44:33,959
I wrote it down during your

13391
02:44:33,959 --> 02:44:36,217
presentation bots because I

13392
02:44:36,217 --> 02:44:37,102
thought about asking the

13393
02:44:37,102 --> 02:44:38,363
question then, but I said no

13394
02:44:38,363 --> 02:44:39,049
we're going to have this

13395
02:44:39,049 --> 02:44:39,871
conversation a little bit later

13396
02:44:39,871 --> 02:44:39,871


13397
02:44:39,871 --> 02:44:41,049
on today and perhaps I'll be

13398
02:44:41,049 --> 02:44:43,467
able to get that information

13399
02:44:43,467 --> 02:44:43,467
then.

13400
02:44:43,467 --> 02:44:45,239
don't find it now but just kno

13401
02:44:45,239 --> 02:44:45,239
w

13402
02:44:45,239 --> 02:44:47,305
on page 53 of the previous

13403
02:44:47,305 --> 02:44:49,401
public works conversation you

13404
02:44:49,401 --> 02:44:51,335
told us about the northwest

13405
02:44:51,335 --> 02:44:55,105
1st avenue resurfacing, and

13406
02:44:55,105 --> 02:44:56,713
I'm very curious to know how y

13407
02:44:56,713 --> 02:44:56,713
ou

13408
02:44:56,713 --> 02:44:58,916
incorporated or how you're

13409
02:44:58,916 --> 02:45:00,101
looking at a completed so how

13410
02:45:00,101 --> 02:45:02,945
did you incorporate multimodal

13411
02:45:02,945 --> 02:45:02,945


13412
02:45:02,945 --> 02:45:02,945
there.

13413
02:45:02,945 --> 02:45:04,811
because don't tell me right

13414
02:45:04,811 --> 02:45:04,811
now.

13415
02:45:04,811 --> 02:45:07,518
don't tell me right now.

13416
02:45:07,518 --> 02:45:09,477
but I want you to show me.

13417
02:45:09,477 --> 02:45:10,200
don't tell me.

13418
02:45:10,200 --> 02:45:13,770
show me.

13419
02:45:13,770 --> 02:45:14,877
northwest 1st avenue is a

13420
02:45:14,877 --> 02:45:16,737
tiny street.

13421
02:45:16,737 --> 02:45:19,671
northeast 8th avenue east of

13422
02:45:19,671 --> 02:45:22,337
waldo road is strange.

13423
02:45:22,337 --> 02:45:24,115
and the reason that it expands

13424
02:45:24,115 --> 02:45:24,115


13425
02:45:24,115 --> 02:45:25,676
is to accommodate traffic -- I

13426
02:45:25,676 --> 02:45:25,676


13427
02:45:25,676 --> 02:45:27,084
think the engineering there

13428
02:45:27,084 --> 02:45:28,989
waserary wise, and I think it

13429
02:45:28,989 --> 02:45:29,755
should remain exactly how it is

13430
02:45:29,755 --> 02:45:29,755


13431
02:45:29,755 --> 02:45:30,780
right now.

13432
02:45:30,780 --> 02:45:34,292
because it helps to facilitate

13433
02:45:34,292 --> 02:45:34,292


13434
02:45:34,292 --> 02:45:35,160
everything that goes on in tha

13435
02:45:35,160 --> 02:45:35,160
t

13436
02:45:35,160 --> 02:45:35,160
community.

13437
02:45:35,160 --> 02:45:37,448
where there is church activity,

13438
02:45:37,448 --> 02:45:37,448


13439
02:45:37,448 --> 02:45:39,326
the road expands, and where

13440
02:45:39,326 --> 02:45:40,430
there are buses, the road

13441
02:45:40,430 --> 02:45:41,492
expands to allow for on-street

13442
02:45:41,492 --> 02:45:41,492


13443
02:45:41,492 --> 02:45:41,492
parking.

13444
02:45:41,492 --> 02:45:44,793
and the traffic can continue t

13445
02:45:44,793 --> 02:45:44,793
o

13446
02:45:44,793 --> 02:45:45,657
move through without

13447
02:45:45,657 --> 02:45:45,657
congestion.

13448
02:45:45,657 --> 02:45:48,159
and without problems.

13449
02:45:48,159 --> 02:45:49,495
keeping safety in mind.

13450
02:45:49,495 --> 02:45:51,483
it then narrows again after

13451
02:45:51,483 --> 02:45:53,023
duval and I'm glad that it was

13452
02:45:53,023 --> 02:45:53,023


13453
02:45:53,023 --> 02:45:55,835
noted that yes, duval is still

13454
02:45:55,835 --> 02:45:55,835


13455
02:45:55,835 --> 02:45:56,507
in play.

13456
02:45:56,507 --> 02:45:58,571
it is not closing.

13457
02:45:58,571 --> 02:45:59,777
and I don't believe a

13458
02:45:59,777 --> 02:46:00,511
conversation with the school

13459
02:46:00,511 --> 02:46:02,948
board has been had to learn wha

13460
02:46:02,948 --> 02:46:02,948
t

13461
02:46:02,948 --> 02:46:04,375
their plans are.

13462
02:46:04,375 --> 02:46:05,883
and how we need to incorporate

13463
02:46:05,883 --> 02:46:05,883


13464
02:46:05,883 --> 02:46:07,653
what those plans are in our

13465
02:46:07,653 --> 02:46:09,701
transportation plans for the

13466
02:46:09,701 --> 02:46:09,701
street.

13467
02:46:09,701 --> 02:46:11,159
I'm going to close my mouth

13468
02:46:11,159 --> 02:46:11,159
now.

13469
02:46:11,159 --> 02:46:13,833
I have a lot mthat I could

13470
02:46:13,833 --> 02:46:15,099
say, but I felt the need to

13471
02:46:15,099 --> 02:46:17,433
bring those things before my

13472
02:46:17,433 --> 02:46:18,059
constituents had the opportuni

13473
02:46:18,059 --> 02:46:18,059
ty

13474
02:46:18,059 --> 02:46:18,873
to speak and anybody else who

13475
02:46:18,873 --> 02:46:23,526
wants to speak on this because

13476
02:46:23,526 --> 02:46:23,526


13477
02:46:23,526 --> 02:46:28,672
this is a major issue.

13478
02:46:28,672 --> 02:46:30,206
nobody needs to talk about 8th

13479
02:46:30,206 --> 02:46:30,206


13480
02:46:30,206 --> 02:46:31,071
avenue needing to be

13481
02:46:31,071 --> 02:46:31,071
resurfaced.

13482
02:46:31,071 --> 02:46:33,995
I think I asked you in our

13483
02:46:33,995 --> 02:46:35,095
meeting the other day how long

13484
02:46:35,095 --> 02:46:35,095


13485
02:46:35,095 --> 02:46:37,691
it's been.

13486
02:46:37,691 --> 02:46:39,153
20 years?

13487
02:46:39,153 --> 02:46:41,066
it's been a very, very long tim

13488
02:46:41,066 --> 02:46:41,066
e

13489
02:46:41,066 --> 02:46:41,949
since that road has been

13490
02:46:41,949 --> 02:46:41,949
addressed.

13491
02:46:41,949 --> 02:46:46,757
if I had a dime for every time

13492
02:46:46,757 --> 02:46:46,757


13493
02:46:46,757 --> 02:46:50,139
am faal    family asked me abo

13494
02:46:50,139 --> 02:46:50,139
ut

13495
02:46:50,139 --> 02:46:51,287
when that road was going to be

13496
02:46:51,287 --> 02:46:51,287


13497
02:46:51,287 --> 02:46:55,963
resurfaced, I would be rich.

13498
02:46:55,963 --> 02:46:56,829
I'm glad we're going to do

13499
02:46:56,829 --> 02:46:56,829
that.

13500
02:46:56,829 --> 02:46:59,203
I think that's a given.

13501
02:46:59,203 --> 02:47:00,673
that's the no-brainer part.

13502
02:47:00,673 --> 02:47:02,303
it's everything else that

13503
02:47:02,303 --> 02:47:03,642
everyone else has questions

13504
02:47:03,642 --> 02:47:03,642
about.

13505
02:47:03,642 --> 02:47:05,173
everyone else even has

13506
02:47:05,173 --> 02:47:06,009
questions -- there are a numbe

13507
02:47:06,009 --> 02:47:06,009
r

13508
02:47:06,009 --> 02:47:07,197
of people who don't want to se

13509
02:47:07,197 --> 02:47:07,197
e

13510
02:47:07,197 --> 02:47:08,912
the street narrowed.

13511
02:47:08,912 --> 02:47:11,613
and we need to hear that.

13512
02:47:11,613 --> 02:47:12,718
I understand that there is a

13513
02:47:12,718 --> 02:47:14,383
belief that narrowing a road

13514
02:47:14,383 --> 02:47:15,882
would control speed.

13515
02:47:15,882 --> 02:47:17,658
maybe, maybe not.

13516
02:47:17,658 --> 02:47:18,619
but those are the conversations

13517
02:47:18,619 --> 02:47:18,619


13518
02:47:18,619 --> 02:47:20,058
that you need to have the

13519
02:47:20,058 --> 02:47:21,152
opportunity to have with the

13520
02:47:21,152 --> 02:47:21,152
people.

13521
02:47:21,152 --> 02:47:23,659
I'll conclude for now and then

13522
02:47:23,659 --> 02:47:23,659


13523
02:47:23,659 --> 02:47:25,089
I'll come back afterwards.

13524
02:47:25,089 --> 02:47:25,724
thank you, commissioner

13525
02:47:25,724 --> 02:47:25,724
duncan-walker.

13526
02:47:25,724 --> 02:47:27,910
so I just have a couple of

13527
02:47:27,910 --> 02:47:28,693
comments and then we'll hear

13528
02:47:28,693 --> 02:47:34,742
from you all.

13529
02:47:34,742 --> 02:47:35,821
so the two things that are dea

13530
02:47:35,821 --> 02:47:35,821
l

13531
02:47:35,821 --> 02:47:36,877
breakers for me when we finally

13532
02:47:36,877 --> 02:47:36,877


13533
02:47:36,877 --> 02:47:38,439
get around to voting on

13534
02:47:38,439 --> 02:47:40,221
something about actual design,

13535
02:47:40,221 --> 02:47:40,221


13536
02:47:40,221 --> 02:47:41,913
which is not today, it's a goo

13537
02:47:41,913 --> 02:47:41,913
d

13538
02:47:41,913 --> 02:47:44,151
way ways off, the two things

13539
02:47:44,151 --> 02:47:45,882
that are deal breakers for me

13540
02:47:45,882 --> 02:47:48,218
are number one, safety, it has

13541
02:47:48,218 --> 02:47:48,218


13542
02:47:48,218 --> 02:47:49,851
to be a safer street.

13543
02:47:49,851 --> 02:47:50,920
fewer people have to git

13544
02:47:50,920 --> 02:47:53,983
has to be the sort of thing th

13545
02:47:53,983 --> 02:47:53,983
at

13546
02:47:53,983 --> 02:47:54,761
people are less likely to get

13547
02:47:54,761 --> 02:47:55,969
hurt on.

13548
02:47:55,969 --> 02:47:59,265
I don't have data to corroborate

13549
02:47:59,265 --> 02:47:59,265


13550
02:47:59,265 --> 02:48:01,329
this but I would bet 41 injurie

13551
02:48:01,329 --> 02:48:01,329
s

13552
02:48:01,329 --> 02:48:02,529
is more than we would normally

13553
02:48:02,529 --> 02:48:02,529


13554
02:48:02,529 --> 02:48:04,267
expect on a two-lane street.

13555
02:48:04,267 --> 02:48:06,229
over a five-year period.

13556
02:48:06,229 --> 02:48:11,273
I want a safer street.

13557
02:48:11,273 --> 02:48:12,809
safe dozen always feel like

13558
02:48:12,809 --> 02:48:15,341
what -- safe doesn't always fee

13559
02:48:15,341 --> 02:48:15,341
l

13560
02:48:15,341 --> 02:48:16,885
like what the data tell us, tha

13561
02:48:16,885 --> 02:48:16,885
t

13562
02:48:16,885 --> 02:48:18,107
safe doesn't always feel like

13563
02:48:18,107 --> 02:48:19,309
what we want it to feel like.

13564
02:48:19,309 --> 02:48:20,917
slower is safer.

13565
02:48:20,917 --> 02:48:22,935
there's no way to argue with th

13566
02:48:22,935 --> 02:48:22,935
e

13567
02:48:22,935 --> 02:48:23,779
physics of that.

13568
02:48:23,779 --> 02:48:25,985
slower is safer.

13569
02:48:25,985 --> 02:48:27,453
and talking about a relatively

13570
02:48:27,453 --> 02:48:27,453


13571
02:48:27,453 --> 02:48:30,939
short road, if it's, if it tak

13572
02:48:30,939 --> 02:48:30,939
es

13573
02:48:30,939 --> 02:48:33,325
you, takes anybody a shorter a

13574
02:48:33,325 --> 02:48:33,325


13575
02:48:33,325 --> 02:48:34,427
little bit longer to get where

13576
02:48:34,427 --> 02:48:34,427


13577
02:48:34,427 --> 02:48:35,407
we're going, a minute or so

13578
02:48:35,407 --> 02:48:36,933
longer to get where we're going

13579
02:48:36,933 --> 02:48:36,933
,

13580
02:48:36,933 --> 02:48:38,249
and people don't die as a

13581
02:48:38,249 --> 02:48:39,421
result, twel that's a good

13582
02:48:39,421 --> 02:48:39,421
thing.

13583
02:48:39,421 --> 02:48:43,941
safer is the number one thing.

13584
02:48:43,941 --> 02:48:43,941


13585
02:48:43,941 --> 02:48:45,135
I also want to make sure that

13586
02:48:45,135 --> 02:48:48,407
whatever gets done adds to the

13587
02:48:48,407 --> 02:48:48,407


13588
02:48:48,407 --> 02:48:50,912
value of the neighborhoods.

13589
02:48:50,912 --> 02:48:52,181
that it does not detract from

13590
02:48:52,181 --> 02:48:53,551
the value of the neighborhoods

13591
02:48:53,551 --> 02:48:53,551
.

13592
02:48:53,551 --> 02:48:54,645
that means we need to save as

13593
02:48:54,645 --> 02:48:57,757
many trees as possible because

13594
02:48:57,757 --> 02:48:57,927
I

13595
02:48:57,927 --> 02:48:59,193
know we have a few realtors in

13596
02:48:59,193 --> 02:48:59,193


13597
02:48:59,193 --> 02:49:01,229
the room, there is no realtor

13598
02:49:01,229 --> 02:49:03,628
that will tell you fewer trees

13599
02:49:03,628 --> 02:49:03,628


13600
02:49:03,628 --> 02:49:05,691
makes property more valuable.

13601
02:49:05,691 --> 02:49:08,787
mature trees add to the value o

13602
02:49:08,787 --> 02:49:08,787
f

13603
02:49:08,787 --> 02:49:09,737
property so we don't want to

13604
02:49:09,737 --> 02:49:11,696
reduce the value of anybody's

13605
02:49:11,696 --> 02:49:11,696
property.

13606
02:49:11,696 --> 02:49:13,703
we want to increase it, but

13607
02:49:13,703 --> 02:49:16,006
mostly we want to be sure that

13608
02:49:16,006 --> 02:49:16,006


13609
02:49:16,006 --> 02:49:18,170
people don't get hurt on the

13610
02:49:18,170 --> 02:49:19,985
road if we can possibly avoid

13611
02:49:19,985 --> 02:49:19,985
it.

13612
02:49:19,985 --> 02:49:22,103
those are the two deal breaker

13613
02:49:22,103 --> 02:49:22,103
s

13614
02:49:22,103 --> 02:49:23,745
for me when we finally get

13615
02:49:23,745 --> 02:49:27,045
around to voting for something.

13616
02:49:27,045 --> 02:49:27,045


13617
02:49:27,045 --> 02:49:28,018
that's a long way off.

13618
02:49:28,018 --> 02:49:32,287
we need to hear from the

13619
02:49:32,287 --> 02:49:32,287
public.

13620
02:49:32,287 --> 02:49:38,289
we do have years of data and o

13621
02:49:38,289 --> 02:49:38,289
f,

13622
02:49:38,289 --> 02:49:40,727
you know, ability to check wit

13623
02:49:40,727 --> 02:49:40,727
h

13624
02:49:40,727 --> 02:49:43,226
other cities because we're not

13625
02:49:43,226 --> 02:49:43,226


13626
02:49:43,226 --> 02:49:44,141
all that special.

13627
02:49:44,141 --> 02:49:45,093
there are other cities just lik

13628
02:49:45,093 --> 02:49:45,093
e

13629
02:49:45,093 --> 02:49:45,093
us.

13630
02:49:45,093 --> 02:49:47,499
and we can tell what works in

13631
02:49:47,499 --> 02:49:49,167
other cities to make them safe.

13632
02:49:49,167 --> 02:49:49,167


13633
02:49:49,167 --> 02:49:51,037
and what keeps people alive,

13634
02:49:51,037 --> 02:49:53,133
what keeps people not hurt on

13635
02:49:53,133 --> 02:49:54,637
our streets.

13636
02:49:54,637 --> 02:49:55,843
we have plenty of time for all

13637
02:49:55,843 --> 02:49:55,843


13638
02:49:55,843 --> 02:49:59,141
of that, and I want to make sure

13639
02:49:59,141 --> 02:49:59,141


13640
02:49:59,141 --> 02:50:01,047
that we include all of that wit

13641
02:50:01,047 --> 02:50:01,047
h

13642
02:50:01,047 --> 02:50:04,352
also the idea that the longer w

13643
02:50:04,352 --> 02:50:04,352
e

13644
02:50:04,352 --> 02:50:06,250
take to make it a safer street

13645
02:50:06,250 --> 02:50:06,250


13646
02:50:06,250 --> 02:50:08,081
the more people get hurt on tha

13647
02:50:08,081 --> 02:50:08,081
t

13648
02:50:08,081 --> 02:50:08,081
street.

13649
02:50:08,081 --> 02:50:11,263
and is it is a street that has

13650
02:50:11,263 --> 02:50:11,263


13651
02:50:11,263 --> 02:50:14,661
lots of kids on it.

13652
02:50:14,661 --> 02:50:18,760
I mean there are just lots of

13653
02:50:18,760 --> 02:50:18,760
kids.

13654
02:50:18,760 --> 02:50:19,877
we want lots of kids on the

13655
02:50:19,877 --> 02:50:19,877
street.

13656
02:50:19,877 --> 02:50:21,365
I'm very familiar with 8th

13657
02:50:21,365 --> 02:50:21,365
avenue.

13658
02:50:21,365 --> 02:50:24,301
and no, they're not all riding

13659
02:50:24,301 --> 02:50:24,301


13660
02:50:24,301 --> 02:50:25,509
their bike to duval.

13661
02:50:25,509 --> 02:50:26,703
we all understand that.

13662
02:50:26,703 --> 02:50:29,107
but there are a lot of kids in

13663
02:50:29,107 --> 02:50:29,107


13664
02:50:29,107 --> 02:50:29,791
the neighborhood, a lot of kid

13665
02:50:29,791 --> 02:50:29,791
s

13666
02:50:29,791 --> 02:50:32,177
on the street, and we want the

13667
02:50:32,177 --> 02:50:32,177
m

13668
02:50:32,177 --> 02:50:33,550
to grow up to be adults who can

13669
02:50:33,550 --> 02:50:33,550


13670
02:50:33,550 --> 02:50:34,481
come to a city commission

13671
02:50:34,481 --> 02:50:34,481
meeting.

13672
02:50:34,481 --> 02:50:38,363
so those are the things that a

13673
02:50:38,363 --> 02:50:38,363
re

13674
02:50:38,363 --> 02:50:40,103
foremost in my mind as we move

13675
02:50:40,103 --> 02:50:40,103


13676
02:50:40,103 --> 02:50:40,103
forward.

13677
02:50:40,103 --> 02:50:43,353
so I'm asking you all to step

13678
02:50:43,353 --> 02:50:44,131
out of the way and let's hear

13679
02:50:44,131 --> 02:50:44,787
from the public.

13680
02:50:44,787 --> 02:50:47,199
>> yes, mr. Mayor, and y us

13681
02:50:47,199 --> 02:50:47,241
I

13682
02:50:47,241 --> 02:50:49,000
just wanted to let every bn

13683
02:50:49,000 --> 02:50:49,673


13684
02:50:49,673 --> 02:50:50,999
everyone know that everyone who

13685
02:50:50,999 --> 02:50:50,999


13686
02:50:50,999 --> 02:50:52,783
was down in room 16 has been

13687
02:50:52,783 --> 02:50:54,841
able to come up and find seats.

13688
02:50:54,841 --> 02:50:54,841


13689
02:50:54,841 --> 02:50:59,335
room 16 is empty.

13690
02:50:59,335 --> 02:51:00,065
I'm going to say a few names -

13691
02:51:00,065 --> 02:51:00,065
-

13692
02:51:00,065 --> 02:51:00,914
people who signed up on deck t

13693
02:51:00,914 --> 02:51:00,914
o

13694
02:51:00,914 --> 02:51:02,789
come up to the podium.

13695
02:51:02,789 --> 02:51:04,297
pamela anderson followed by

13696
02:51:04,297 --> 02:51:11,749
carolyn eason and then juanita

13697
02:51:11,749 --> 02:51:11,749


13698
02:51:11,749 --> 02:51:13,721
miles hamilton.

13699
02:51:13,721 --> 02:51:19,923
is pamela here?

13700
02:51:19,923 --> 02:51:22,321
>> mayor: welcome.

13701
02:51:22,321 --> 02:51:24,099
>> afternoon, commissioners.

13702
02:51:24,099 --> 02:51:27,601
my respect to all of you.

13703
02:51:27,601 --> 02:51:30,913
whether    when I first heard a

13704
02:51:30,913 --> 02:51:30,913
bout

13705
02:51:30,913 --> 02:51:32,113
the plan for the improvements o

13706
02:51:32,113 --> 02:51:32,113
f

13707
02:51:32,113 --> 02:51:34,675
8th avenue, I just happened to

13708
02:51:34,675 --> 02:51:34,675


13709
02:51:34,675 --> 02:51:37,681
be there at the time that they

13710
02:51:37,681 --> 02:51:37,681


13711
02:51:37,681 --> 02:51:39,217
were at the, when the city com

13712
02:51:39,217 --> 02:51:39,217
es

13713
02:51:39,217 --> 02:51:41,723
out on the second monday at the

13714
02:51:41,723 --> 02:51:41,723


13715
02:51:41,723 --> 02:51:43,255
clarence kelly center.

13716
02:51:43,255 --> 02:51:44,594
I said well, why don't you com

13717
02:51:44,594 --> 02:51:44,594
e

13718
02:51:44,594 --> 02:51:46,853
to the seniors on the move at

13719
02:51:46,853 --> 02:51:48,957
clarence kelly center and

13720
02:51:48,957 --> 02:51:50,839
present that to them because

13721
02:51:50,839 --> 02:51:51,723
there are so many people that

13722
02:51:51,723 --> 02:51:53,657
don't know about this.

13723
02:51:53,657 --> 02:51:55,293
so from there we had those two

13724
02:51:55,293 --> 02:51:55,293


13725
02:51:55,293 --> 02:51:57,907
meetings, and with them, and I

13726
02:51:57,907 --> 02:51:57,907


13727
02:51:57,907 --> 02:52:00,369
saw some improvements over wha

13728
02:52:00,369 --> 02:52:00,369
t

13729
02:52:00,369 --> 02:52:03,767
was presented back then as

13730
02:52:03,767 --> 02:52:03,767
well.

13731
02:52:03,767 --> 02:52:05,836
I was against it, and still am

13732
02:52:05,836 --> 02:52:05,836


13733
02:52:05,836 --> 02:52:10,039
against the zippers, and the

13734
02:52:10,039 --> 02:52:14,217
bike lanes on this eastern

13735
02:52:14,217 --> 02:52:16,257
portion of 8th avenue because

13736
02:52:16,257 --> 02:52:19,119
seeing it every day and

13737
02:52:19,119 --> 02:52:21,907
traveling that corridor and

13738
02:52:21,907 --> 02:52:26,121
seeing how it was done over by

13739
02:52:26,121 --> 02:52:26,121


13740
02:52:26,121 --> 02:52:28,759
chestnut as far as the zippers

13741
02:52:28,759 --> 02:52:28,759


13742
02:52:28,759 --> 02:52:30,633
and the turn lane, the bike

13743
02:52:30,633 --> 02:52:33,031
lanes rather, and I'm going to

13744
02:52:33,031 --> 02:52:33,031
c

13745
02:52:33,031 --> 02:52:33,967
church twice a week over there

13746
02:52:33,967 --> 02:52:33,967


13747
02:52:33,967 --> 02:52:35,279
and seeing how dangerous this I

13748
02:52:35,279 --> 02:52:35,279
s

13749
02:52:35,279 --> 02:52:37,485
so I thought, we can't just --

13750
02:52:37,485 --> 02:52:37,485


13751
02:52:37,485 --> 02:52:38,538
we got to find out what's going

13752
02:52:38,538 --> 02:52:38,538


13753
02:52:38,538 --> 02:52:41,037
on and why and we just wile

13754
02:52:41,037 --> 02:52:42,577
we're just hearing about this

13755
02:52:42,577 --> 02:52:42,577
plan.

13756
02:52:42,577 --> 02:52:49,901
I understand safety and the

13757
02:52:49,901 --> 02:52:50,855
children, I'm all for children

13758
02:52:50,855 --> 02:52:50,855


13759
02:52:50,855 --> 02:52:51,949
and everybody being safe

13760
02:52:51,949 --> 02:52:53,617
certainly, but I don't think

13761
02:52:53,617 --> 02:52:55,731
that when it comes down to thi

13762
02:52:55,731 --> 02:52:55,731
s

13763
02:52:55,731 --> 02:52:59,623
portion of 8th avenue, I have

13764
02:52:59,623 --> 02:53:01,347
my sayings about the other

13765
02:53:01,347 --> 02:53:03,465
portion as well that I wouldn'

13766
02:53:03,465 --> 02:53:03,465
t

13767
02:53:03,465 --> 02:53:05,207
care to be talking about right

13768
02:53:05,207 --> 02:53:05,207


13769
02:53:05,207 --> 02:53:06,735
now but going threw thet

13770
02:53:06,735 --> 02:53:08,603
roundabout at -- through that

13771
02:53:08,603 --> 02:53:10,345
roundabout at night, but I'm

13772
02:53:10,345 --> 02:53:12,845
just saying as far as the east

13773
02:53:12,845 --> 02:53:12,845


13774
02:53:12,845 --> 02:53:14,374
8th avenue corridor, and it is

13775
02:53:14,374 --> 02:53:14,374


13776
02:53:14,374 --> 02:53:16,489
special and yes, there are a l

13777
02:53:16,489 --> 02:53:16,489
ot

13778
02:53:16,489 --> 02:53:18,227
of things that happen down the

13779
02:53:18,227 --> 02:53:18,227
re

13780
02:53:18,227 --> 02:53:20,111
on that street that people

13781
02:53:20,111 --> 02:53:21,647
didn't take into consideration

13782
02:53:21,647 --> 02:53:21,647


13783
02:53:21,647 --> 02:53:23,283
and maybe they've looked into I

13784
02:53:23,283 --> 02:53:23,283
t

13785
02:53:23,283 --> 02:53:23,283
now.

13786
02:53:23,283 --> 02:53:25,585
I didn't see that data before

13787
02:53:25,585 --> 02:53:27,356
about the accidents and not tha

13788
02:53:27,356 --> 02:53:27,356
t

13789
02:53:27,356 --> 02:53:30,429
I've heard about that many

13790
02:53:30,429 --> 02:53:31,724
accidents on that part of 8th

13791
02:53:31,724 --> 02:53:31,724
avenue.

13792
02:53:31,724 --> 02:53:34,359
safety is a goal, and it's my

13793
02:53:34,359 --> 02:53:34,359
goal.

13794
02:53:34,359 --> 02:53:36,659
and there'll be other comments.

13795
02:53:36,659 --> 02:53:36,659


13796
02:53:36,659 --> 02:53:38,867
I don't want to be redundant b

13797
02:53:38,867 --> 02:53:38,867
ut

13798
02:53:38,867 --> 02:53:43,473
I was opposed to the bike lanes

13799
02:53:43,473 --> 02:53:45,111
, .

13800
02:53:45,111 --> 02:53:46,641
the traffic calming what they

13801
02:53:46,641 --> 02:53:48,837
talked about, those tables,

13802
02:53:48,837 --> 02:53:49,816
first when I saw the first pla

13803
02:53:49,816 --> 02:53:49,816
n

13804
02:53:49,816 --> 02:53:50,577
it was three of them.

13805
02:53:50,577 --> 02:53:53,311
I see it's been cut down to two

13806
02:53:53,311 --> 02:53:53,311


13807
02:53:53,311 --> 02:53:55,152
proposed median locations.

13808
02:53:55,152 --> 02:53:56,715
I am for the flashing lights.

13809
02:53:56,715 --> 02:53:59,683
the beacons for crossing the

13810
02:53:59,683 --> 02:54:02,270
roadway, put as many as you can

13811
02:54:02,270 --> 02:54:02,270


13812
02:54:02,270 --> 02:54:02,933
down there.

13813
02:54:02,933 --> 02:54:04,927
I am all for that.

13814
02:54:04,927 --> 02:54:06,791
but there's those few other

13815
02:54:06,791 --> 02:54:09,393
things that pertains to as far

13816
02:54:09,393 --> 02:54:09,393


13817
02:54:09,393 --> 02:54:12,095
as the traffic flow, that's a

13818
02:54:12,095 --> 02:54:13,577
different thing.

13819
02:54:13,577 --> 02:54:16,823
as far as those are my, what I

13820
02:54:16,823 --> 02:54:16,823


13821
02:54:16,823 --> 02:54:18,071
see after 50 years of living

13822
02:54:18,071 --> 02:54:20,471
down there in cedar grove, whi

13823
02:54:20,471 --> 02:54:20,471
ch

13824
02:54:20,471 --> 02:54:23,310
they say duval, my neighborhood

13825
02:54:23,310 --> 02:54:23,310


13826
02:54:23,310 --> 02:54:26,717
is cedar grove part 1, but wha

13827
02:54:26,717 --> 02:54:26,717
t

13828
02:54:26,717 --> 02:54:29,449
I see for 50 years of going bac

13829
02:54:29,449 --> 02:54:29,449
k

13830
02:54:29,449 --> 02:54:31,419
and forth, I've not heard of

13831
02:54:31,419 --> 02:54:32,721
that many people getting reall

13832
02:54:32,721 --> 02:54:32,721
y

13833
02:54:32,721 --> 02:54:32,721
hurt.

13834
02:54:32,721 --> 02:54:36,099
that, on that portion of 8th

13835
02:54:36,099 --> 02:54:36,099
avenue.

13836
02:54:36,099 --> 02:54:37,921
thank you.

13837
02:54:37,921 --> 02:54:39,597
>> mayor: thank you.

13838
02:54:39,597 --> 02:54:43,331
>> carolyn eason followed by

13839
02:54:43,331 --> 02:54:47,832
juanita miles -- I apologize.

13840
02:54:47,832 --> 02:54:49,698
juanita miles hamilton.

13841
02:54:49,698 --> 02:54:50,805
thank you for the correction.

13842
02:54:50,805 --> 02:54:51,536
>> mayor: welcome.

13843
02:54:51,536 --> 02:54:53,109
>> and kali blount.

13844
02:54:53,109 --> 02:54:54,639
>> thank you, juanita miles

13845
02:54:54,639 --> 02:54:54,639
hamilton.

13846
02:54:54,639 --> 02:55:01,219
and I'm standing today in

13847
02:55:01,219 --> 02:55:04,321
support, I hope it was a motio

13848
02:55:04,321 --> 02:55:04,321
n,

13849
02:55:04,321 --> 02:55:06,381
that there was not proper

13850
02:55:06,381 --> 02:55:08,965
community input from the staff

13851
02:55:08,965 --> 02:55:08,965


13852
02:55:08,965 --> 02:55:12,960
regarding this issue.

13853
02:55:12,960 --> 02:55:14,297
transparency, accountability,

13854
02:55:14,297 --> 02:55:16,939
and public involvement are

13855
02:55:16,939 --> 02:55:19,762
critical in decision making

13856
02:55:19,762 --> 02:55:19,762
processes.

13857
02:55:19,762 --> 02:55:25,491
gentrification at best, at

13858
02:55:25,491 --> 02:55:25,491
best.

13859
02:55:25,491 --> 02:55:30,843
I'm standing because of the fac

13860
02:55:30,843 --> 02:55:30,843
t

13861
02:55:30,843 --> 02:55:33,680
that the northwest 8th avenue

13862
02:55:33,680 --> 02:55:35,313
just yesterday I was traveling

13863
02:55:35,313 --> 02:55:35,513
a

13864
02:55:35,513 --> 02:55:35,513
sloppy.

13865
02:55:35,513 --> 02:55:41,319
and it creates a problem I've

13866
02:55:41,319 --> 02:55:42,659
sat and monitored the traffic

13867
02:55:42,659 --> 02:55:45,923
for several hours several times

13868
02:55:45,923 --> 02:55:45,923


13869
02:55:45,923 --> 02:55:47,934
a day different times of day

13870
02:55:47,934 --> 02:55:50,433
morning, noon, and evening and

13871
02:55:50,433 --> 02:55:50,433


13872
02:55:50,433 --> 02:55:52,619
pretty much I have yet to see a

13873
02:55:52,619 --> 02:55:52,619


13874
02:55:52,619 --> 02:55:57,669
bicycle on the bike lane.

13875
02:55:57,669 --> 02:55:59,977
and but yet it imposes a

13876
02:55:59,977 --> 02:55:59,977
problem.

13877
02:55:59,977 --> 02:56:02,508
just yesterday I was coming fro

13878
02:56:02,508 --> 02:56:02,508
m

13879
02:56:02,508 --> 02:56:06,447
therapy, and the traffic was

13880
02:56:06,447 --> 02:56:06,982
flowing good.

13881
02:56:06,982 --> 02:56:08,083
it was right at 5:00.

13882
02:56:08,083 --> 02:56:09,945
a lot of traffic.

13883
02:56:09,945 --> 02:56:14,914
and I was stuck headeeast on

13884
02:56:14,914 --> 02:56:17,494
8th avenue at northwest -- the

13885
02:56:17,494 --> 02:56:17,494


13886
02:56:17,494 --> 02:56:21,997
traffic suddenly stopped bec  folk were cr

13887
02:56:21,997 --> 02:56:22,220
folk were crossing the lane --

13888
02:56:22,220 --> 02:56:22,220


13889
02:56:22,220 --> 02:56:23,599
down the street.

13890
02:56:23,599 --> 02:56:25,467
stopped abruptly.

13891
02:56:25,467 --> 02:56:27,899
several other cars and myself

13892
02:56:27,899 --> 02:56:30,410
had to hit the bike lane to

13893
02:56:30,410 --> 02:56:33,043
get -- to stop from getting hit

13894
02:56:33,043 --> 02:56:33,043


13895
02:56:33,043 --> 02:56:35,437
with cars headed north on 6th

13896
02:56:35,437 --> 02:56:35,437
street.

13897
02:56:35,437 --> 02:56:39,685
the police department.

13898
02:56:39,685 --> 02:56:42,781
we were stuck out if the     I

13899
02:56:42,781 --> 02:56:42,883
n the

13900
02:56:42,883 --> 02:56:42,883
lane.

13901
02:56:42,883 --> 02:56:44,723
the traffic light changed on u

13902
02:56:44,723 --> 02:56:44,723
s

13903
02:56:44,723 --> 02:56:45,828
because the traffic had abruptly

13904
02:56:45,828 --> 02:56:45,828


13905
02:56:45,828 --> 02:56:45,828
stopped.

13906
02:56:45,828 --> 02:56:47,153
it's a problem.

13907
02:56:47,153 --> 02:56:49,699
it is a problem.

13908
02:56:49,699 --> 02:56:51,199
I think that we need to revisit

13909
02:56:51,199 --> 02:56:51,199


13910
02:56:51,199 --> 02:56:53,255
our comp plan because in that

13911
02:56:53,255 --> 02:56:56,763
comp plan it clearly states tha

13912
02:56:56,763 --> 02:56:56,763
t

13913
02:56:56,763 --> 02:56:59,165
you need to make other changes

13914
02:56:59,165 --> 02:56:59,165


13915
02:56:59,165 --> 02:57:02,136
to roads when you resurface a

13916
02:57:02,136 --> 02:57:04,203
street or do the sidewalks.

13917
02:57:04,203 --> 02:57:06,071
we don't, I ride.

13918
02:57:06,071 --> 02:57:08,041
I see the children walking,

13919
02:57:08,041 --> 02:57:09,778
parents walking, we don't walk

13920
02:57:09,778 --> 02:57:09,778


13921
02:57:09,778 --> 02:57:11,410
in the streets.

13922
02:57:11,410 --> 02:57:12,758
we don't ride our bikes in the

13923
02:57:12,758 --> 02:57:12,758


13924
02:57:12,758 --> 02:57:12,758
street.

13925
02:57:12,758 --> 02:57:15,389
we ride on the sidewalk.

13926
02:57:15,389 --> 02:57:19,441
because we were taught not to

13927
02:57:19,441 --> 02:57:19,441
be

13928
02:57:19,441 --> 02:57:21,293
in the streets and compete wit

13929
02:57:21,293 --> 02:57:21,293
h

13930
02:57:21,293 --> 02:57:21,823
a car or truck.

13931
02:57:21,823 --> 02:57:23,583
this is a community, a

13932
02:57:23,583 --> 02:57:23,583
neighborhood.

13933
02:57:23,583 --> 02:57:25,991
a neighborhood.

13934
02:57:25,991 --> 02:57:29,839
and bike lanes doesn't apply to

13935
02:57:29,839 --> 02:57:29,839


13936
02:57:29,839 --> 02:57:33,535
the concept that we   we will

13937
02:57:33,535 --> 02:57:34,251
build it now and they will

13938
02:57:34,251 --> 02:57:34,251
come.

13939
02:57:34,251 --> 02:57:37,474
this is an existing community

13940
02:57:37,474 --> 02:57:39,005
and we need to respect it as

13941
02:57:39,005 --> 02:57:42,678
such: there are several projects

13942
02:57:42,678 --> 02:57:42,678


13943
02:57:42,678 --> 02:57:43,707
if you are looking for project

13944
02:57:43,707 --> 02:57:43,707
s

13945
02:57:43,707 --> 02:57:47,413
that can be beneficial to us.

13946
02:57:47,413 --> 02:57:50,584
one is getting rid of that

13947
02:57:50,584 --> 02:57:52,551
recycling plant right on waldo

13948
02:57:52,551 --> 02:57:52,551


13949
02:57:52,551 --> 02:57:56,596
and 8th avenue that provides

13950
02:57:56,596 --> 02:57:59,354
dust to residents of us living

13951
02:57:59,354 --> 02:57:59,354


13952
02:57:59,354 --> 02:58:01,295
in the community creating healt

13953
02:58:01,295 --> 02:58:01,295
h

13954
02:58:01,295 --> 02:58:01,295
issues.

13955
02:58:01,295 --> 02:58:04,827
folk can't open their windows

13956
02:58:04,827 --> 02:58:06,569
boss of     because of the noi

13957
02:58:06,569 --> 02:58:06,704
se and

13958
02:58:06,704 --> 02:58:07,566
air pollution.

13959
02:58:07,566 --> 02:58:12,833
that you can relocate that

13960
02:58:12,833 --> 02:58:15,141
convenience store on 8th

13961
02:58:15,141 --> 02:58:17,212
avenue that you gave permissio

13962
02:58:17,212 --> 02:58:17,212
n

13963
02:58:17,212 --> 02:58:19,480
to sell beer and wine or

13964
02:58:19,480 --> 02:58:21,914
whatever else out of it, and

13965
02:58:21,914 --> 02:58:24,659
plaster the signs all over the

13966
02:58:24,659 --> 02:58:24,659


13967
02:58:24,659 --> 02:58:26,314
window right in front of a

13968
02:58:26,314 --> 02:58:28,588
recreation center and a

13969
02:58:28,588 --> 02:58:28,588
nursery.

13970
02:58:28,588 --> 02:58:31,994
>> mayor: I am a going to ask

13971
02:58:31,994 --> 02:58:34,832
you to wrap up.

13972
02:58:34,832 --> 02:58:36,538
that's not how we do it.

13973
02:58:36,538 --> 02:58:37,894
you know that.

13974
02:58:37,894 --> 02:58:39,440
>> and the same thing happens o

13975
02:58:39,440 --> 02:58:39,440
n

13976
02:58:39,440 --> 02:58:41,398
southeast 4th avenue.

13977
02:58:41,398 --> 02:58:42,808
this is, this is not good for

13978
02:58:42,808 --> 02:58:46,206
our community.

13979
02:58:46,206 --> 02:58:47,777
it creates all kind of problem

13980
02:58:47,777 --> 02:58:47,777
s

13981
02:58:47,777 --> 02:58:50,518
for our children at they young

13982
02:58:50,518 --> 02:58:50,518


13983
02:58:50,518 --> 02:58:52,115
age and now you have come in

13984
02:58:52,115 --> 02:58:53,212
talking about bicycles putting

13985
02:58:53,212 --> 02:58:53,212


13986
02:58:53,212 --> 02:58:54,548
them in the streets.

13987
02:58:54,548 --> 02:58:56,050
trying to kill them.

13988
02:58:56,050 --> 02:58:57,420
>> mayor: ms. Miles hamilton I'm

13989
02:58:57,420 --> 02:58:57,420


13990
02:58:57,420 --> 02:58:58,355
going to ask you to wrap up.

13991
02:58:58,355 --> 02:58:59,221
you're at four minutes.

13992
02:58:59,221 --> 02:59:00,226
>> okay, I will, thank you,

13993
02:59:00,226 --> 02:59:00,226
sir.

13994
02:59:00,226 --> 02:59:05,358
and another thing we can do is

13995
02:59:05,358 --> 02:59:05,358


13996
02:59:05,358 --> 02:59:08,426
to provide avenues for economic

13997
02:59:08,426 --> 02:59:08,426


13998
02:59:08,426 --> 02:59:09,724
development, provide

13999
02:59:09,724 --> 02:59:11,602
recreational after-school

14000
02:59:11,602 --> 02:59:14,200
programs for our kids so that

14001
02:59:14,200 --> 02:59:15,864
they can continue to do -- the

14002
02:59:15,864 --> 02:59:15,864


14003
02:59:15,864 --> 02:59:17,206
city used to do that.

14004
02:59:17,206 --> 02:59:18,272
>> mayor: I'm going to ask you

14005
02:59:18,272 --> 02:59:18,272


14006
02:59:18,272 --> 02:59:19,135
to wrap up, please.

14007
02:59:19,135 --> 02:59:20,014
>> we appreciate it and I would

14008
02:59:20,014 --> 02:59:20,014


14009
02:59:20,014 --> 02:59:22,686
like to say that if you continue

14010
02:59:22,686 --> 02:59:22,686


14011
02:59:22,686 --> 02:59:25,208
to ignore our safety, our

14012
02:59:25,208 --> 02:59:26,912
children, our peace, and our

14013
02:59:26,912 --> 02:59:28,712
survival, we will target your

14014
02:59:28,712 --> 02:59:28,712
seats.

14015
02:59:28,712 --> 02:59:33,826
>> amen.

14016
02:59:33,826 --> 02:59:34,590
>> mayor: ms. Miles hamilton, I

14017
02:59:34,590 --> 02:59:34,590


14018
02:59:34,590 --> 02:59:35,260
would love to schedule a meeti

14019
02:59:35,260 --> 02:59:35,260
ng

14020
02:59:35,260 --> 02:59:35,779
with you.

14021
02:59:35,779 --> 02:59:35,779
please.

14022
02:59:35,779 --> 02:59:36,773
>> okay.

14023
02:59:36,773 --> 02:59:37,664
thank you.

14024
02:59:37,664 --> 02:59:40,096
>> we have kali blount followed

14025
02:59:40,096 --> 02:59:40,096


14026
02:59:40,096 --> 02:59:42,990
by andrew miles and dejohn

14027
02:59:42,990 --> 02:59:48,266
dijon

14028
02:59:48,266 --> 02:59:48,266
cane.

14029
02:59:48,266 --> 02:59:50,800
>> they brought up removing

14030
02:59:50,800 --> 02:59:50,800
trees.

14031
02:59:50,800 --> 02:59:53,217
it should be part of the study.

14032
02:59:53,217 --> 02:59:53,217


14033
02:59:53,217 --> 02:59:54,642
trees really are removable,

14034
02:59:54,642 --> 02:59:56,378
which ones are alien.

14035
02:59:56,378 --> 02:59:57,946
if you remove the only more

14036
02:59:57,946 --> 03:00:00,643
a3w-7bdant       abundant trees

14037
03:00:00,643 --> 03:00:00,962
will

14038
03:00:00,962 --> 03:00:02,084
that clear a path on either sid

14039
03:00:02,084 --> 03:00:02,084
e

14040
03:00:02,084 --> 03:00:02,532
of the street.

14041
03:00:02,532 --> 03:00:03,913
we don't want to expand heat

14042
03:00:03,913 --> 03:00:05,776
islands, so you should be

14043
03:00:05,776 --> 03:00:10,630
preserving the trees.

14044
03:00:10,630 --> 03:00:12,153
and with these street changes

14045
03:00:12,153 --> 03:00:13,698
and you're talking later about

14046
03:00:13,698 --> 03:00:13,698


14047
03:00:13,698 --> 03:00:17,192
utility changes, even if you

14048
03:00:17,192 --> 03:00:18,670
weren't putting utilities under

14049
03:00:18,670 --> 03:00:18,670


14050
03:00:18,670 --> 03:00:21,906
ground, you're dealing with the

14051
03:00:21,906 --> 03:00:21,906


14052
03:00:21,906 --> 03:00:25,150
surface water drainage, which,

14053
03:00:25,150 --> 03:00:25,150


14054
03:00:25,150 --> 03:00:26,604
and there's a couple areas whe

14055
03:00:26,604 --> 03:00:26,604
re

14056
03:00:26,604 --> 03:00:27,672
you have swales on the

14057
03:00:27,672 --> 03:00:27,672
roadside.

14058
03:00:27,672 --> 03:00:29,438
it would be great to turn that

14059
03:00:29,438 --> 03:00:29,438


14060
03:00:29,438 --> 03:00:30,873
into level ground over pipe and

14061
03:00:30,873 --> 03:00:30,873


14062
03:00:30,873 --> 03:00:32,073
no longer have swales.

14063
03:00:32,073 --> 03:00:34,176
but that's going to involve the

14064
03:00:34,176 --> 03:00:34,176


14065
03:00:34,176 --> 03:00:37,116
utilities cooperation.

14066
03:00:37,116 --> 03:00:39,515
and since you and gru are now

14067
03:00:39,515 --> 03:00:41,092
frien-emies, you need to know

14068
03:00:41,092 --> 03:00:43,354
well ahead of time what are the

14069
03:00:43,354 --> 03:00:43,354
y

14070
03:00:43,354 --> 03:00:44,556
going to participate, what wil

14071
03:00:44,556 --> 03:00:44,556
l

14072
03:00:44,556 --> 03:00:46,995
be their participation.

14073
03:00:46,995 --> 03:00:49,446
and I mentioned earlier when I

14074
03:00:49,446 --> 03:00:49,446


14075
03:00:49,446 --> 03:00:52,272
talked about the zero project --

14076
03:00:52,272 --> 03:00:52,272


14077
03:00:52,272 --> 03:00:53,628
the project zero event the oth

14078
03:00:53,628 --> 03:00:53,628
er

14079
03:00:53,628 --> 03:00:55,500
day, what I think of the quali

14080
03:00:55,500 --> 03:00:55,500
ty

14081
03:00:55,500 --> 03:00:57,844
of outreach.

14082
03:00:57,844 --> 03:00:59,452
too often the outreach is bring

14083
03:00:59,452 --> 03:00:59,452


14084
03:00:59,452 --> 03:01:01,844
a citizens in, let them hear a

14085
03:01:01,844 --> 03:01:01,844


14086
03:01:01,844 --> 03:01:03,383
presentations, and they don't

14087
03:01:03,383 --> 03:01:05,155
get to speak back to the room

14088
03:01:05,155 --> 03:01:07,417
and each other and the staff.

14089
03:01:07,417 --> 03:01:09,423
or they just get to take two

14090
03:01:09,423 --> 03:01:11,278
cookies and go home or they're

14091
03:01:11,278 --> 03:01:11,278


14092
03:01:11,278 --> 03:01:12,916
told write your question on an

14093
03:01:12,916 --> 03:01:12,916


14094
03:01:12,916 --> 03:01:13,586
index card.

14095
03:01:13,586 --> 03:01:16,953
that's not good enough.

14096
03:01:16,953 --> 03:01:20,625
and that feeds into one giant

14097
03:01:20,625 --> 03:01:21,325
apprehension for this

14098
03:01:21,325 --> 03:01:21,325
neighborhood.

14099
03:01:21,325 --> 03:01:23,561
they've seen what happened in

14100
03:01:23,561 --> 03:01:26,734
5th avenue and pleasant street

14101
03:01:26,734 --> 03:01:26,734


14102
03:01:26,734 --> 03:01:27,932
and porters.

14103
03:01:27,932 --> 03:01:30,580
is this a prequell to

14104
03:01:30,580 --> 03:01:30,580
gentrification?

14105
03:01:30,580 --> 03:01:33,739
they need some reassurance.

14106
03:01:33,739 --> 03:01:38,216
and for $500,000, do we get

14107
03:01:38,216 --> 03:01:39,986
anywhere into the kinetic part

14108
03:01:39,986 --> 03:01:39,986


14109
03:01:39,986 --> 03:01:41,077
of this work?

14110
03:01:41,077 --> 03:01:42,527
you know, since I've been in

14111
03:01:42,527 --> 03:01:44,361
town in '87 I'm sure there's

14112
03:01:44,361 --> 03:01:46,045
been 6 or $7 million spent on

14113
03:01:46,045 --> 03:01:47,652
consultants and studies that

14114
03:01:47,652 --> 03:01:49,518
have given you lots of paper t

14115
03:01:49,518 --> 03:01:49,518
o

14116
03:01:49,518 --> 03:01:53,323
protect your    shelves from d

14117
03:01:53,323 --> 03:01:53,323
ust,

14118
03:01:53,323 --> 03:01:54,526
but we want to see it become

14119
03:01:54,526 --> 03:01:56,731
actual action so does this get

14120
03:01:56,731 --> 03:01:56,731


14121
03:01:56,731 --> 03:01:58,897
us into -- even if it's just a

14122
03:01:58,897 --> 03:01:58,897


14123
03:01:58,897 --> 03:02:01,262
coordination with d.o.t., I

14124
03:02:01,262 --> 03:02:02,771
think the park west of waldo

14125
03:02:02,771 --> 03:02:05,938
might be d.o.t. Concern, or

14126
03:02:05,938 --> 03:02:09,677
required testing, maybe a test

14127
03:02:09,677 --> 03:02:09,677


14128
03:02:09,677 --> 03:02:10,687
soil on where you're going to

14129
03:02:10,687 --> 03:02:13,029
pay new, put new pavement make

14130
03:02:13,029 --> 03:02:13,029


14131
03:02:13,029 --> 03:02:15,455
sure it's good.

14132
03:02:15,455 --> 03:02:17,513
so for $500,000, I hope we're

14133
03:02:17,513 --> 03:02:20,655
getting into some part of the

14134
03:02:20,655 --> 03:02:22,789
kinetic part of this work.

14135
03:02:22,789 --> 03:02:24,796
a shovel in the dirt, somewhere

14136
03:02:24,796 --> 03:02:24,796


14137
03:02:24,796 --> 03:02:26,871
for that $500,000 and not just

14138
03:02:26,871 --> 03:02:27,525
a

14139
03:02:27,525 --> 03:02:29,698
new pile of paper.

14140
03:02:29,698 --> 03:02:30,266
>> mayor: thank you,

14141
03:02:30,266 --> 03:02:32,910
mr. Blount.

14142
03:02:32,910 --> 03:02:35,641
>> andrew miles followed by

14143
03:02:35,641 --> 03:02:43,376
dijon cane and pastor earnestee

14144
03:02:43,376 --> 03:02:43,376
n

14145
03:02:43,376 --> 03:02:43,376
butler.

14146
03:02:43,376 --> 03:02:45,279
>> welcome, how are you doing

14147
03:02:45,279 --> 03:02:45,279
again.

14148
03:02:45,279 --> 03:02:48,417
I'm coming to talk to you about

14149
03:02:48,417 --> 03:02:48,417


14150
03:02:48,417 --> 03:02:50,085
the road construction as well.

14151
03:02:50,085 --> 03:02:50,085


14152
03:02:50,085 --> 03:02:51,465
and I want to go straight to th

14153
03:02:51,465 --> 03:02:51,465
e

14154
03:02:51,465 --> 03:02:53,453
crash data because the crash

14155
03:02:53,453 --> 03:02:54,591
data that they're talking is

14156
03:02:54,591 --> 03:02:56,109
about for the safety and so

14157
03:02:56,109 --> 03:02:59,156
forth, is somewhat inconclusiv

14158
03:02:59,156 --> 03:02:59,156
e

14159
03:02:59,156 --> 03:03:01,693
andit don't really related to

14160
03:03:01,693 --> 03:03:04,090
speed or to any particular thi

14161
03:03:04,090 --> 03:03:04,090
ng

14162
03:03:04,090 --> 03:03:05,791
that's why they have all the

14163
03:03:05,791 --> 03:03:05,791
incidents.

14164
03:03:05,791 --> 03:03:10,510
so we can't exactly say that al

14165
03:03:10,510 --> 03:03:10,510
l

14166
03:03:10,510 --> 03:03:11,877
of those incidents is because o

14167
03:03:11,877 --> 03:03:11,877
f

14168
03:03:11,877 --> 03:03:11,877
speed.

14169
03:03:11,877 --> 03:03:13,447
first of all.

14170
03:03:13,447 --> 03:03:14,623
so that's kind of screwed a

14171
03:03:14,623 --> 03:03:17,891
little bit.

14172
03:03:17,891 --> 03:03:22,249
the speed tables and the zippe

14173
03:03:22,249 --> 03:03:22,249
rs

14174
03:03:22,249 --> 03:03:23,881
along for the bike path and so

14175
03:03:23,881 --> 03:03:23,881


14176
03:03:23,881 --> 03:03:26,851
forth is by biggest objection.

14177
03:03:26,851 --> 03:03:26,851


14178
03:03:26,851 --> 03:03:27,917
8th avenue definitely,

14179
03:03:27,917 --> 03:03:29,449
definitely need to have some

14180
03:03:29,449 --> 03:03:31,487
renovation done to so forth but

14181
03:03:31,487 --> 03:03:31,487


14182
03:03:31,487 --> 03:03:34,533
the speed tables I think is an

14183
03:03:34,533 --> 03:03:34,533


14184
03:03:34,533 --> 03:03:35,589
unnecessary, little bit

14185
03:03:35,589 --> 03:03:37,895
overkill, and we don't have

14186
03:03:37,895 --> 03:03:40,199
enough data that directly

14187
03:03:40,199 --> 03:03:43,219
relates it to speeding, and so

14188
03:03:43,219 --> 03:03:43,219


14189
03:03:43,219 --> 03:03:45,283
forth because as far as we know,

14190
03:03:45,283 --> 03:03:45,283


14191
03:03:45,283 --> 03:03:47,909
it could be from people texting,

14192
03:03:47,909 --> 03:03:47,909


14193
03:03:47,909 --> 03:03:49,462
it could be from folks talking

14194
03:03:49,462 --> 03:03:49,462


14195
03:03:49,462 --> 03:03:51,078
on the phone or just not payin

14196
03:03:51,078 --> 03:03:51,078
g  attent

14197
03:03:51,078 --> 03:03:51,078
attentn.  So

14198
03:03:51,078 --> 03:03:53,815
soforth so a lot of that is the

14199
03:03:53,815 --> 03:03:53,815


14200
03:03:53,815 --> 03:03:55,355
reason why we have lot of

14201
03:03:55,355 --> 03:03:56,691
accidents in the first place

14202
03:03:56,691 --> 03:03:59,391
more so than speeding.

14203
03:03:59,391 --> 03:04:05,149
the other thing is that some of

14204
03:04:05,149 --> 03:04:05,149


14205
03:04:05,149 --> 03:04:06,523
the causes that you do have

14206
03:04:06,523 --> 03:04:08,621
superspeeding is somewhat could

14207
03:04:08,621 --> 03:04:08,621


14208
03:04:08,621 --> 03:04:11,431
be related to that on the west

14209
03:04:11,431 --> 03:04:11,431


14210
03:04:11,431 --> 03:04:13,433
side of 8th avenue before you

14211
03:04:13,433 --> 03:04:15,045
cross waldo, the speed limit I

14212
03:04:15,045 --> 03:04:15,045
s

14213
03:04:15,045 --> 03:04:16,703
35 miles an hour.

14214
03:04:16,703 --> 03:04:20,007
so coming across waldo road it'

14215
03:04:20,007 --> 03:04:20,007
s

14216
03:04:20,007 --> 03:04:21,075
kind of hard transitioning

14217
03:04:21,075 --> 03:04:21,075
there.

14218
03:04:21,075 --> 03:04:22,937
I drive that way quite a bit a

14219
03:04:22,937 --> 03:04:22,937
nd

14220
03:04:22,937 --> 03:04:27,215
so forth myself coming back and

14221
03:04:27,215 --> 03:04:27,215


14222
03:04:27,215 --> 03:04:27,837
forth every day.

14223
03:04:27,837 --> 03:04:28,957
a little speed transition coming

14224
03:04:28,957 --> 03:04:28,957


14225
03:04:28,957 --> 03:04:30,179
through there, but having the

14226
03:04:30,179 --> 03:04:31,781
speed tables up on 8th avenue

14227
03:04:31,781 --> 03:04:34,122
is going to slow down traffic,

14228
03:04:34,122 --> 03:04:34,122


14229
03:04:34,122 --> 03:04:35,212
it's going to slow down traffic

14230
03:04:35,212 --> 03:04:35,212


14231
03:04:35,212 --> 03:04:36,987
so much until I think it's

14232
03:04:36,987 --> 03:04:38,289
possibly even make it dangerous

14233
03:04:38,289 --> 03:04:38,289


14234
03:04:38,289 --> 03:04:40,123
for us that are living there

14235
03:04:40,123 --> 03:04:41,156
because we have a lot of traff

14236
03:04:41,156 --> 03:04:41,156
ic

14237
03:04:41,156 --> 03:04:44,563
that's flowing through that

14238
03:04:44,563 --> 03:04:48,038
little -- there and we     and

14239
03:04:48,038 --> 03:04:48,235
so

14240
03:04:48,235 --> 03:04:48,235
forth.

14241
03:04:48,235 --> 03:04:52,341
we do want the road to be fixed

14242
03:04:52,341 --> 03:04:52,341


14243
03:04:52,341 --> 03:04:54,972
and so forth, and some other

14244
03:04:54,972 --> 03:04:57,142
ated stuff, and some bike paths

14245
03:04:57,142 --> 03:04:57,142


14246
03:04:57,142 --> 03:04:58,702
could be some additional stuff

14247
03:04:58,702 --> 03:04:58,702


14248
03:04:58,702 --> 03:05:00,109
that could be help it a little

14249
03:05:00,109 --> 03:05:00,109


14250
03:05:00,109 --> 03:05:01,151
bit, but like I said, the

14251
03:05:01,151 --> 03:05:02,816
zipper's going to impede a who

14252
03:05:02,816 --> 03:05:02,816
le

14253
03:05:02,816 --> 03:05:02,816
lot.

14254
03:05:02,816 --> 03:05:04,581
even widening the sidwould

14255
03:05:04,581 --> 03:05:07,548
make it a little bit better.

14256
03:05:07,548 --> 03:05:08,733
some folks don't want -- but I

14257
03:05:08,733 --> 03:05:08,733


14258
03:05:08,733 --> 03:05:10,617
don't know who if the world

14259
03:05:10,617 --> 03:05:11,055
in

14260
03:05:11,055 --> 03:05:12,589
the world decided to put large

14261
03:05:12,589 --> 03:05:12,589


14262
03:05:12,589 --> 03:05:13,735
oak trees in the middle of a

14263
03:05:13,735 --> 03:05:15,440
sidewalk that's going to grow

14264
03:05:15,440 --> 03:05:17,167
this big around as this table,

14265
03:05:17,167 --> 03:05:17,167


14266
03:05:17,167 --> 03:05:18,490
and it's going to tear up the

14267
03:05:18,490 --> 03:05:20,662
roads, it's going to tear up t

14268
03:05:20,662 --> 03:05:20,662
he

14269
03:05:20,662 --> 03:05:21,493
sidewalk as soon as you fix the

14270
03:05:21,493 --> 03:05:21,493


14271
03:05:21,493 --> 03:05:23,539
roads, five, six years from now

14272
03:05:23,539 --> 03:05:23,539
,

14273
03:05:23,539 --> 03:05:24,571
we have to resurface the road

14274
03:05:24,571 --> 03:05:25,940
again because of all of the

14275
03:05:25,940 --> 03:05:25,940
roots.

14276
03:05:25,940 --> 03:05:28,071
I don't care how you trim the

14277
03:05:28,071 --> 03:05:31,208
trees, it's going -- some

14278
03:05:31,208 --> 03:05:32,310
consideration or replacing tho

14279
03:05:32,310 --> 03:05:32,310
se

14280
03:05:32,310 --> 03:05:35,754
oaks with some more manageable

14281
03:05:35,754 --> 03:05:35,754


14282
03:05:35,754 --> 03:05:37,609
trees, possibly would be

14283
03:05:37,609 --> 03:05:37,609
better.

14284
03:05:37,609 --> 03:05:42,727
but again, my biggest objection

14285
03:05:42,727 --> 03:05:42,727


14286
03:05:42,727 --> 03:05:46,225
is the speed tables and zipper

14287
03:05:46,225 --> 03:05:46,225


14288
03:05:46,225 --> 03:05:48,959
ties, but having a path for

14289
03:05:48,959 --> 03:05:50,611
bikes, that would be okay

14290
03:05:50,611 --> 03:05:52,022
because I ride a bike quite a

14291
03:05:52,022 --> 03:05:54,295
bit but I don't have any probl

14292
03:05:54,295 --> 03:05:54,295
em

14293
03:05:54,295 --> 03:05:56,779
riding bikes over on the east

14294
03:05:56,779 --> 03:05:58,034
side of town and so forth and I

14295
03:05:58,034 --> 03:05:58,034


14296
03:05:58,034 --> 03:05:59,115
have been riding for over 67

14297
03:05:59,115 --> 03:05:59,115
years.

14298
03:05:59,115 --> 03:06:02,220
over there haven't had any

14299
03:06:02,220 --> 03:06:04,407
problems and as I said the

14300
03:06:04,407 --> 03:06:05,466
speeding and so forth the data

14301
03:06:05,466 --> 03:06:05,466


14302
03:06:05,466 --> 03:06:09,079
is too inconclusive and not too

14303
03:06:09,079 --> 03:06:09,079


14304
03:06:09,079 --> 03:06:10,319
much to say it's directly

14305
03:06:10,319 --> 03:06:13,145
related to a speed problem and

14306
03:06:13,145 --> 03:06:13,145


14307
03:06:13,145 --> 03:06:13,581
so forth.

14308
03:06:13,581 --> 03:06:16,027
but I hope you consider making

14309
03:06:16,027 --> 03:06:16,027


14310
03:06:16,027 --> 03:06:18,328
the changes but some of the

14311
03:06:18,328 --> 03:06:22,542
stuff which is zippers and the

14312
03:06:22,542 --> 03:06:22,542


14313
03:06:22,542 --> 03:06:23,924
speed humps like I said that's

14314
03:06:23,924 --> 03:06:23,924


14315
03:06:23,924 --> 03:06:25,633
my biggest complaint and so

14316
03:06:25,633 --> 03:06:26,970
forth because if an emergency

14317
03:06:26,970 --> 03:06:27,741
happened on the east side of

14318
03:06:27,741 --> 03:06:30,732
town, it's going to be a probl

14319
03:06:30,732 --> 03:06:30,732
em

14320
03:06:30,732 --> 03:06:31,598
with all those people trying t

14321
03:06:31,598 --> 03:06:31,598
o

14322
03:06:31,598 --> 03:06:34,204
get out because it's only so

14323
03:06:34,204 --> 03:06:36,946
many exits coming from the eas

14324
03:06:36,946 --> 03:06:36,946
t

14325
03:06:36,946 --> 03:06:37,968
side of town.

14326
03:06:37,968 --> 03:06:40,576
8th avenue, university avenue,

14327
03:06:40,576 --> 03:06:40,576


14328
03:06:40,576 --> 03:06:41,011
12th avenue.

14329
03:06:41,011 --> 03:06:42,111
we used to have 10th avenue

14330
03:06:42,111 --> 03:06:43,118
but it was closed off when the

14331
03:06:43,118 --> 03:06:43,118
y

14332
03:06:43,118 --> 03:06:44,116
put that little place down

14333
03:06:44,116 --> 03:06:44,116
there.

14334
03:06:44,116 --> 03:06:49,924
so a lot of people coming out o

14335
03:06:49,924 --> 03:06:49,924
f

14336
03:06:49,924 --> 03:06:51,324
east side of town -- not reall

14337
03:06:51,324 --> 03:06:51,324
y

14338
03:06:51,324 --> 03:06:52,222
going to benefit --

14339
03:06:52,222 --> 03:06:52,714
>> mayor: thank you.

14340
03:06:52,714 --> 03:06:54,390
>> we have dijon cane followed

14341
03:06:54,390 --> 03:06:54,390


14342
03:06:54,390 --> 03:06:56,596
by pastor earnesteen butler and

14343
03:06:56,596 --> 03:06:56,596


14344
03:06:56,596 --> 03:06:58,094
then corey brunson.

14345
03:06:58,094 --> 03:06:58,826
>> mayor: welcome.

14346
03:06:58,826 --> 03:06:59,473
>> all right, good afternoon,

14347
03:06:59,473 --> 03:06:59,473
commission.

14348
03:06:59,473 --> 03:07:02,296
I grew up on the east side.

14349
03:07:02,296 --> 03:07:03,264
I'm running for commission in

14350
03:07:03,264 --> 03:07:04,802
district 3, which is all of

14351
03:07:04,802 --> 03:07:04,802
southwest.

14352
03:07:04,802 --> 03:07:06,871
and I preach this all the time

14353
03:07:06,871 --> 03:07:06,871


14354
03:07:06,871 --> 03:07:08,511
when you're from gainesville y

14355
03:07:08,511 --> 03:07:08,511
ou

14356
03:07:08,511 --> 03:07:09,278
know gainesville.

14357
03:07:09,278 --> 03:07:10,716
and when I heard about this,I

14358
03:07:10,716 --> 03:07:12,472
looked it up I was like wow

14359
03:07:12,472 --> 03:07:12,908
that's crazy.

14360
03:07:12,908 --> 03:07:15,180
I thought about the fune rlt

14361
03:07:15,180 --> 03:07:17,832
best thing about -- funerals.

14362
03:07:17,832 --> 03:07:18,685
let's think about how those

14363
03:07:18,685 --> 03:07:21,462
funerals go -- you're going it

14364
03:07:21,462 --> 03:07:21,462


14365
03:07:21,462 --> 03:07:24,725
take         going to take tha

14366
03:07:24,725 --> 03:07:25,306
t away.

14367
03:07:25,306 --> 03:07:27,101
they ain't going to have

14368
03:07:27,101 --> 03:07:28,220
anywhere to do the funerals an

14369
03:07:28,220 --> 03:07:28,220
d

14370
03:07:28,220 --> 03:07:29,991
the cars will not know where t

14371
03:07:29,991 --> 03:07:29,991
o

14372
03:07:29,991 --> 03:07:29,991
park.

14373
03:07:29,991 --> 03:07:31,194
the other thing is the amount o

14374
03:07:31,194 --> 03:07:31,194
f

14375
03:07:31,194 --> 03:07:31,950
money you want to spend on this

14376
03:07:31,950 --> 03:07:31,950


14377
03:07:31,950 --> 03:07:33,256
when we really don't need it,

14378
03:07:33,256 --> 03:07:34,902
you could just do the

14379
03:07:34,902 --> 03:07:36,188
reconstruction, we need a

14380
03:07:36,188 --> 03:07:37,942
grocery store.

14381
03:07:37,942 --> 03:07:40,736
we need better development.

14382
03:07:40,736 --> 03:07:41,726
we need better things for the

14383
03:07:41,726 --> 03:07:43,307
kids.we have programs called the

14384
03:07:43,307 --> 03:07:43,307


14385
03:07:43,307 --> 03:07:43,307
outlet.

14386
03:07:43,307 --> 03:07:45,559
all that stuff, the city did

14387
03:07:45,559 --> 03:07:49,030
post-917 gainesville police

14388
03:07:49,030 --> 03:07:50,022
explorers, other programs in

14389
03:07:50,022 --> 03:07:50,974
this community, that's what we

14390
03:07:50,974 --> 03:07:50,974


14391
03:07:50,974 --> 03:07:50,974
need.

14392
03:07:50,974 --> 03:07:53,768
but if we going -- it amaze me

14393
03:07:53,768 --> 03:07:53,768


14394
03:07:53,768 --> 03:07:57,953
that -- amazes me nat we that w

14395
03:07:57,953 --> 03:07:57,953
e

14396
03:07:57,953 --> 03:07:59,018
spend this kind of money hon

14397
03:07:59,018 --> 03:08:00,553
this but we can't get a growsy

14398
03:08:00,553 --> 03:08:00,553


14399
03:08:00,553 --> 03:08:00,553
store.

14400
03:08:00,553 --> 03:08:03,096
that's a problem.

14401
03:08:03,096 --> 03:08:04,526
many of you are like wow.

14402
03:08:04,526 --> 03:08:05,348
no, it's the truth.

14403
03:08:05,348 --> 03:08:06,243
when we say we want economic

14404
03:08:06,243 --> 03:08:07,572
development, what do you reall

14405
03:08:07,572 --> 03:08:07,572
y

14406
03:08:07,572 --> 03:08:07,572
want?

14407
03:08:07,572 --> 03:08:09,336
why are you really here?

14408
03:08:09,336 --> 03:08:11,200
I know one commissioner can't d

14409
03:08:11,200 --> 03:08:11,200
o

14410
03:08:11,200 --> 03:08:11,200
it.

14411
03:08:11,200 --> 03:08:12,736
because that's her district.

14412
03:08:12,736 --> 03:08:14,802
but we got to work together to

14413
03:08:14,802 --> 03:08:14,802


14414
03:08:14,802 --> 03:08:15,269
do it.

14415
03:08:15,269 --> 03:08:16,240
because I'm going to tell you,

14416
03:08:16,240 --> 03:08:16,240


14417
03:08:16,240 --> 03:08:17,436
this is a mess.

14418
03:08:17,436 --> 03:08:18,842
but it's funny to me how we wan

14419
03:08:18,842 --> 03:08:18,842
t

14420
03:08:18,842 --> 03:08:20,801
to put this infrastructure in

14421
03:08:20,801 --> 03:08:21,951
right now when we didn't care

14422
03:08:21,951 --> 03:08:25,115
about it 20 years ago.

14423
03:08:25,115 --> 03:08:26,988
time comes about change.

14424
03:08:26,988 --> 03:08:28,126
but we got to be careful when

14425
03:08:28,126 --> 03:08:29,758
we're spending this kind of

14426
03:08:29,758 --> 03:08:31,716
money on this.

14427
03:08:31,716 --> 03:08:34,228
when we need so much more in

14428
03:08:34,228 --> 03:08:35,567
that community.

14429
03:08:35,567 --> 03:08:37,468
and it's lacking because guess

14430
03:08:37,468 --> 03:08:37,468


14431
03:08:37,468 --> 03:08:37,468
what?

14432
03:08:37,468 --> 03:08:39,500
we have not made the investmen

14433
03:08:39,500 --> 03:08:39,500
ts

14434
03:08:39,500 --> 03:08:40,901
over the years.

14435
03:08:40,901 --> 03:08:42,237
it ain't just this commission.

14436
03:08:42,237 --> 03:08:44,222
blame you.

14437
03:08:44,222 --> 03:08:46,438
it's past commissions, past

14438
03:08:46,438 --> 03:08:46,438
problems.

14439
03:08:46,438 --> 03:08:49,570
it is piled on top of each oth

14440
03:08:49,570 --> 03:08:49,570
er

14441
03:08:49,570 --> 03:08:51,314
and on top of each other and

14442
03:08:51,314 --> 03:08:52,622
people are tired.

14443
03:08:52,622 --> 03:08:54,822
these folks are tired.

14444
03:08:54,822 --> 03:08:56,040
when is things going to change?

14445
03:08:56,040 --> 03:08:56,040


14446
03:08:56,040 --> 03:08:58,758
when is it going to get better?

14447
03:08:58,758 --> 03:08:58,758


14448
03:08:58,758 --> 03:09:01,084
I remember being, you know, in

14449
03:09:01,084 --> 03:09:01,518
a

14450
03:09:01,518 --> 03:09:02,384
black on black crime task force

14451
03:09:02,384 --> 03:09:02,384


14452
03:09:02,384 --> 03:09:05,552
at 14, and we had this plan eas

14453
03:09:05,552 --> 03:09:05,552
t

14454
03:09:05,552 --> 03:09:06,318
gainesville they lied.

14455
03:09:06,318 --> 03:09:07,626
we keep lying.

14456
03:09:07,626 --> 03:09:09,042
when are we going to do what we

14457
03:09:09,042 --> 03:09:09,042


14458
03:09:09,042 --> 03:09:09,386
need to do?

14459
03:09:09,386 --> 03:09:10,634
when are we going to hear the

14460
03:09:10,634 --> 03:09:10,634
need?

14461
03:09:10,634 --> 03:09:13,046
when are we going to spark the

14462
03:09:13,046 --> 03:09:13,046


14463
03:09:13,046 --> 03:09:14,428
change, and whether are we

14464
03:09:14,428 --> 03:09:16,734
really -- when are we really

14465
03:09:16,734 --> 03:09:17,967
going to serve the people and

14466
03:09:17,967 --> 03:09:19,940
I'm going to tell you it is a

14467
03:09:19,940 --> 03:09:20,982
big problem we haven't heard

14468
03:09:20,982 --> 03:09:21,338
from the community.

14469
03:09:21,338 --> 03:09:23,642
that won't happen on any other

14470
03:09:23,642 --> 03:09:23,642


14471
03:09:23,642 --> 03:09:24,882
side of the town, so why is it

14472
03:09:24,882 --> 03:09:24,882


14473
03:09:24,882 --> 03:09:25,412
happening with us?

14474
03:09:25,412 --> 03:09:26,508
and I think that every

14475
03:09:26,508 --> 03:09:27,476
commissioner up there should

14476
03:09:27,476 --> 03:09:28,678
listen to what I'm saying.

14477
03:09:28,678 --> 03:09:30,007
it don't happen on no other sid

14478
03:09:30,007 --> 03:09:30,007
e

14479
03:09:30,007 --> 03:09:32,852
of town.

14480
03:09:32,852 --> 03:09:34,792
why is it happening on the

14481
03:09:34,792 --> 03:09:34,792
east?

14482
03:09:34,792 --> 03:09:35,998
so if you're really wanting to

14483
03:09:35,998 --> 03:09:35,998


14484
03:09:35,998 --> 03:09:37,500
do your job, for the people and

14485
03:09:37,500 --> 03:09:37,500


14486
03:09:37,500 --> 03:09:39,562
serve the people, vote this dow

14487
03:09:39,562 --> 03:09:39,562
n

14488
03:09:39,562 --> 03:09:39,562
today.

14489
03:09:39,562 --> 03:09:43,162
and when they do the right job

14490
03:09:43,162 --> 03:09:43,162


14491
03:09:43,162 --> 03:09:45,228
then we can come back and have a

14492
03:09:45,228 --> 03:09:45,228


14493
03:09:45,228 --> 03:09:45,228
conversation.

14494
03:09:45,228 --> 03:09:46,570
we're here for the people.

14495
03:09:46,570 --> 03:09:47,656
you're not getting paid to get

14496
03:09:47,656 --> 03:09:47,656


14497
03:09:47,656 --> 03:09:47,656
paid.

14498
03:09:47,656 --> 03:09:48,978
you're working for the people.

14499
03:09:48,978 --> 03:09:48,978


14500
03:09:48,978 --> 03:09:49,636
let's do it.

14501
03:09:49,636 --> 03:09:50,732
it's not hard.

14502
03:09:50,732 --> 03:09:52,140
so thank you very much.

14503
03:09:52,140 --> 03:09:53,674
I look forward to you hearing

14504
03:09:53,674 --> 03:09:55,438
the needs, serving the people,

14505
03:09:55,438 --> 03:09:55,438


14506
03:09:55,438 --> 03:09:56,836
and sparking the change.

14507
03:09:56,836 --> 03:09:57,938
something we're missing in thu

14508
03:09:57,938 --> 03:09:57,938
s

14509
03:09:57,938 --> 03:09:57,938
community.

14510
03:09:57,938 --> 03:10:00,236
thank you very much.

14511
03:10:00,236 --> 03:10:00,716
>> mayor: thank you.

14512
03:10:00,716 --> 03:10:01,658
I do want to before anybody els

14513
03:10:01,658 --> 03:10:01,658
e

14514
03:10:01,658 --> 03:10:03,408
comes up I want to point out

14515
03:10:03,408 --> 03:10:04,816
that it is right now a

14516
03:10:04,816 --> 03:10:06,110
$2 million grant out to help

14517
03:10:06,110 --> 03:10:07,826
folks who live in the community

14518
03:10:07,826 --> 03:10:07,826
,

14519
03:10:07,826 --> 03:10:08,686
invest in that community.

14520
03:10:08,686 --> 03:10:10,118
>> yes, mr. Mayor, I tote sale

14521
03:10:10,118 --> 03:10:10,118


14522
03:10:10,118 --> 03:10:10,782
understand that and respect

14523
03:10:10,782 --> 03:10:10,782
that.

14524
03:10:10,782 --> 03:10:13,062
my only thing with that is gue

14525
03:10:13,062 --> 03:10:13,062
ss

14526
03:10:13,062 --> 03:10:13,062
what?

14527
03:10:13,062 --> 03:10:14,390
it's a little late.

14528
03:10:14,390 --> 03:10:15,873
we need more, I get you --

14529
03:10:15,873 --> 03:10:18,326
>> mayor: if not now, when?

14530
03:10:18,326 --> 03:10:19,322
>> I been asking you that

14531
03:10:19,322 --> 03:10:20,250
question since I have 14 years

14532
03:10:20,250 --> 03:10:20,250


14533
03:10:20,250 --> 03:10:20,250
old.

14534
03:10:20,250 --> 03:10:22,500
>> if not now, when.

14535
03:10:22,500 --> 03:10:24,162
>> mr. Mayor, with all due

14536
03:10:24,162 --> 03:10:25,109
respect I have been asking tha

14537
03:10:25,109 --> 03:10:25,109
t

14538
03:10:25,109 --> 03:10:27,630
since I was 14, and --

14539
03:10:27,630 --> 03:10:28,308
>> mayor: we're trying, for

14540
03:10:28,308 --> 03:10:29,040
goodness sake.

14541
03:10:29,040 --> 03:10:29,802
that's what we're doing.

14542
03:10:29,802 --> 03:10:30,667
>> let's work together,

14543
03:10:30,667 --> 03:10:31,384
mr. Mayor.

14544
03:10:31,384 --> 03:10:32,078
>> mayor: come on.

14545
03:10:32,078 --> 03:10:33,208
let's get some more folks

14546
03:10:33,208 --> 03:10:33,208
talking.

14547
03:10:33,208 --> 03:10:35,520
>> all right, we have pastor

14548
03:10:35,520 --> 03:10:37,385
ernesteen butler followed by

14549
03:10:37,385 --> 03:10:39,306
corey brunson and then mr. Kip

14550
03:10:39,306 --> 03:10:39,306


14551
03:10:39,306 --> 03:10:40,014
hayes senior.

14552
03:10:40,014 --> 03:10:41,318
>> mayor: welcome, pastor.

14553
03:10:41,318 --> 03:10:44,022
>> hello.

14554
03:10:44,022 --> 03:10:45,924
I've been sitting there for

14555
03:10:45,924 --> 03:10:49,394
awhile little stiff.

14556
03:10:49,394 --> 03:10:52,690
but the things that they're

14557
03:10:52,690 --> 03:10:54,468
asking and talking about on

14558
03:10:54,468 --> 03:10:58,506
8th avenue as far as I too can

14559
03:10:58,506 --> 03:10:58,506


14560
03:10:58,506 --> 03:11:01,316
talk about lots more that we

14561
03:11:01,316 --> 03:11:02,534
need on 8th avenue.

14562
03:11:02,534 --> 03:11:08,640
but right now I will focus on

14563
03:11:08,640 --> 03:11:09,977
the transportation, the streets,

14564
03:11:09,977 --> 03:11:09,977


14565
03:11:09,977 --> 03:11:11,614
the things that are happening

14566
03:11:11,614 --> 03:11:13,243
right now.

14567
03:11:13,243 --> 03:11:15,168
and right now one of the thing

14568
03:11:15,168 --> 03:11:15,168
s

14569
03:11:15,168 --> 03:11:18,557
that I'm seriously against is

14570
03:11:18,557 --> 03:11:20,193
the bicycle lane.

14571
03:11:20,193 --> 03:11:23,458
yes, we ride our bicycle.

14572
03:11:23,458 --> 03:11:26,832
I have a tricycle, and y ride I

14573
03:11:26,832 --> 03:11:26,832
t

14574
03:11:26,832 --> 03:11:27,731
on the -- I ride it on the

14575
03:11:27,731 --> 03:11:27,731
sidewalk.

14576
03:11:27,731 --> 03:11:32,536
so yes, that's what we do.

14577
03:11:32,536 --> 03:11:36,512
I did sit no one else have any

14578
03:11:36,512 --> 03:11:36,512


14579
03:11:36,512 --> 03:11:38,608
data on how many bicycles that

14580
03:11:38,608 --> 03:11:38,608


14581
03:11:38,608 --> 03:11:40,575
go from 8th avenue down.

14582
03:11:40,575 --> 03:11:41,220
well guess what?

14583
03:11:41,220 --> 03:11:45,516
I was sitting there and every

14584
03:11:45,516 --> 03:11:46,948
night then at antioch where

14585
03:11:46,948 --> 03:11:48,156
they're talking about, I sat

14586
03:11:48,156 --> 03:11:50,451
there and every now and then I

14587
03:11:50,451 --> 03:11:50,451


14588
03:11:50,451 --> 03:11:51,656
would say there is a bicycle.

14589
03:11:51,656 --> 03:11:54,826
there is a bicycle.

14590
03:11:54,826 --> 03:11:58,759
I think I counted about two,

14591
03:11:58,759 --> 03:12:03,398
ipabout a       in about a wee

14592
03:12:03,398 --> 03:12:03,598
k's time

14593
03:12:03,598 --> 03:12:07,368
of people riding their bicycle

14594
03:12:07,368 --> 03:12:07,368
s

14595
03:12:07,368 --> 03:12:08,008
out there.

14596
03:12:08,008 --> 03:12:09,204
other than that, there was n

14597
03:12:09,204 --> 03:12:11,172
and as far as the trees are

14598
03:12:11,172 --> 03:12:14,250
concerned -- I love trees.

14599
03:12:14,250 --> 03:12:15,621
I garden.

14600
03:12:15,621 --> 03:12:17,878
I love trees.

14601
03:12:17,878 --> 03:12:23,222
but a water oak is different.

14602
03:12:23,222 --> 03:12:25,489
the leaves are slippery when

14603
03:12:25,489 --> 03:12:25,489
wet.

14604
03:12:25,489 --> 03:12:29,496
how many times I've almost

14605
03:12:29,496 --> 03:12:32,290
slipped down just walking acros

14606
03:12:32,290 --> 03:12:32,290
s

14607
03:12:32,290 --> 03:12:34,502
the street because of the leave

14608
03:12:34,502 --> 03:12:34,502
s

14609
03:12:34,502 --> 03:12:36,466
and no, we don't have them

14610
03:12:36,466 --> 03:12:39,138
coming cleaning as often.

14611
03:12:39,138 --> 03:12:43,273
so those oak trees, now they're

14612
03:12:43,273 --> 03:12:43,273


14613
03:12:43,273 --> 03:12:46,118
water oaks, plant something

14614
03:12:46,118 --> 03:12:46,118
else.

14615
03:12:46,118 --> 03:12:49,410
some other kind of trees like

14616
03:12:49,410 --> 03:12:52,682
they have on the other side on

14617
03:12:52,682 --> 03:12:52,682


14618
03:12:52,682 --> 03:12:53,214
west side.

14619
03:12:53,214 --> 03:12:53,898
they have different types of

14620
03:12:53,898 --> 03:12:53,898
trees.

14621
03:12:53,898 --> 03:12:56,452
they don't have water oaks.

14622
03:12:56,452 --> 03:12:58,083
we do.

14623
03:12:58,083 --> 03:13:00,822
and yes, I was sitting there,

14624
03:13:00,822 --> 03:13:03,594
and all of a sudden this limb

14625
03:13:03,594 --> 03:13:07,194
big limb green fell.

14626
03:13:07,194 --> 03:13:11,200
it was like, why?

14627
03:13:11,200 --> 03:13:13,399
limb was still green but it

14628
03:13:13,399 --> 03:13:13,399
fell.

14629
03:13:13,399 --> 03:13:15,558
big limb.

14630
03:13:15,558 --> 03:13:16,676
I'm not talking about a little

14631
03:13:16,676 --> 03:13:16,676


14632
03:13:16,676 --> 03:13:16,676
twig.

14633
03:13:16,676 --> 03:13:20,892
so therefore, yeah, there is a

14634
03:13:20,892 --> 03:13:20,892


14635
03:13:20,892 --> 03:13:22,710
lot of things that are

14636
03:13:22,710 --> 03:13:22,710
happening.

14637
03:13:22,710 --> 03:13:27,216
no one here would disagree tha

14638
03:13:27,216 --> 03:13:27,216
t

14639
03:13:27,216 --> 03:13:29,458
it need to be paved or

14640
03:13:29,458 --> 03:13:29,458
surfaced.

14641
03:13:29,458 --> 03:13:35,127
no one because I'm trying to

14642
03:13:35,127 --> 03:13:38,199
dodge potholes as I drive along

14643
03:13:38,199 --> 03:13:38,199
,

14644
03:13:38,199 --> 03:13:40,166
and to come and just patch one

14645
03:13:40,166 --> 03:13:40,166


14646
03:13:40,166 --> 03:13:43,129
here and patch one there is a

14647
03:13:43,129 --> 03:13:43,129
mess.

14648
03:13:43,129 --> 03:13:45,336
and since I am a pastor and I d

14649
03:13:45,336 --> 03:13:45,336
o

14650
03:13:45,336 --> 03:13:48,368
go to church not that -- is not

14651
03:13:48,368 --> 03:13:48,368


14652
03:13:48,368 --> 03:13:50,472
my church, but I've had to do

14653
03:13:50,472 --> 03:13:53,740
funerals there, can you imagine

14654
03:13:53,740 --> 03:13:53,740


14655
03:13:53,740 --> 03:13:56,274
if we had to bring the body

14656
03:13:56,274 --> 03:13:57,810
around the back because of tho

14657
03:13:57,810 --> 03:13:57,810
se

14658
03:13:57,810 --> 03:14:00,434
big ugly zippers?

14659
03:14:00,434 --> 03:14:03,150
parked out front of the church,

14660
03:14:03,150 --> 03:14:03,150


14661
03:14:03,150 --> 03:14:06,030
and by the way, I was born and

14662
03:14:06,030 --> 03:14:06,030


14663
03:14:06,030 --> 03:14:09,087
raised on off of 5th avenue.

14664
03:14:09,087 --> 03:14:12,035
I literally got lost the other

14665
03:14:12,035 --> 03:14:12,035


14666
03:14:12,035 --> 03:14:14,566
day, and I was riding in a

14667
03:14:14,566 --> 03:14:18,405
bicycle lane, didn't, it was

14668
03:14:18,405 --> 03:14:22,139
like my god, then I had to go

14669
03:14:22,139 --> 03:14:24,640
down the wrong road, turn, and

14670
03:14:24,640 --> 03:14:25,220
I

14671
03:14:25,220 --> 03:14:27,377
literally didn't know how to g

14672
03:14:27,377 --> 03:14:27,377
et

14673
03:14:27,377 --> 03:14:28,905
back to the new restaurant

14674
03:14:28,905 --> 03:14:31,116
that's down 5th avenue.

14675
03:14:31,116 --> 03:14:33,180
I didn't know how to get back.

14676
03:14:33,180 --> 03:14:33,180


14677
03:14:33,180 --> 03:14:36,252
it was like it's too many littl

14678
03:14:36,252 --> 03:14:36,252
e

14679
03:14:36,252 --> 03:14:38,819
one-way little things, and I w

14680
03:14:38,819 --> 03:14:38,819
as

14681
03:14:38,819 --> 03:14:40,661
like, but I was born and raise

14682
03:14:40,661 --> 03:14:40,661
d

14683
03:14:40,661 --> 03:14:40,661
here.

14684
03:14:40,661 --> 03:14:45,134
no one told me, no one did

14685
03:14:45,134 --> 03:14:46,794
anything, and yes we're still

14686
03:14:46,794 --> 03:14:51,603
going through that shock of

14687
03:14:51,603 --> 03:14:56,637
having the street redone from

14688
03:14:56,637 --> 03:14:58,738
west of main street.

14689
03:14:58,738 --> 03:15:00,481
>> mayor: I'm going to ask you

14690
03:15:00,481 --> 03:15:00,481


14691
03:15:00,481 --> 03:15:01,341
to wrap up, please.

14692
03:15:01,341 --> 03:15:02,007
>> west of main street.

14693
03:15:02,007 --> 03:15:04,763
so no, I disagree with them

14694
03:15:04,763 --> 03:15:10,668
changing things on east --

14695
03:15:10,668 --> 03:15:11,912
>> mayor: so again, I'm going to

14696
03:15:11,912 --> 03:15:11,912


14697
03:15:11,912 --> 03:15:13,358
be clear that we're not voting

14698
03:15:13,358 --> 03:15:13,358


14699
03:15:13,358 --> 03:15:14,555
to -- there won't be a vote

14700
03:15:14,555 --> 03:15:20,838
today to do anything.

14701
03:15:20,838 --> 03:15:21,793
>> [off mic]

14702
03:15:21,793 --> 03:15:23,769
we don't like it.

14703
03:15:23,769 --> 03:15:24,350
>> mayor: yes, ma'am, that's

14704
03:15:24,350 --> 03:15:27,161
what we're here to hear, not t

14705
03:15:27,161 --> 03:15:27,161
o

14706
03:15:27,161 --> 03:15:29,174
decide how to vote on it because  there's

14707
03:15:29,174 --> 03:15:30,667
there's no vote today on pavin

14708
03:15:30,667 --> 03:15:30,667
g

14709
03:15:30,667 --> 03:15:33,101
it or on adding speed bumps or

14710
03:15:33,101 --> 03:15:33,101


14711
03:15:33,101 --> 03:15:33,839
anything else.

14712
03:15:33,839 --> 03:15:34,602
who's next.

14713
03:15:34,602 --> 03:15:36,273
>> we have corey brunson

14714
03:15:36,273 --> 03:15:38,380
followed by kip hayes and ryan

14715
03:15:38,380 --> 03:15:38,380


14716
03:15:38,380 --> 03:15:40,539
undine who is the last one on

14717
03:15:40,539 --> 03:15:41,115
the list.

14718
03:15:41,115 --> 03:15:42,688
>> mayor: welcome.

14719
03:15:42,688 --> 03:15:43,262
>> hi.

14720
03:15:43,262 --> 03:15:44,727
corey brunson, and just speaking

14721
03:15:44,727 --> 03:15:44,727


14722
03:15:44,727 --> 03:15:51,829
for myself, I also was confused

14723
03:15:51,829 --> 03:15:51,829


14724
03:15:51,829 --> 03:15:53,697
when reading the item on the

14725
03:15:53,697 --> 03:15:55,227
agenda a couple of days ago or

14726
03:15:55,227 --> 03:15:55,371
a

14727
03:15:55,371 --> 03:15:57,369
few days ago in that it looked

14728
03:15:57,369 --> 03:15:57,369


14729
03:15:57,369 --> 03:15:58,304
like something was about to be

14730
03:15:58,304 --> 03:15:58,304


14731
03:15:58,304 --> 03:15:59,576
decided that I had not been

14732
03:15:59,576 --> 03:16:01,418
aware of for quite sometime, a

14733
03:16:01,418 --> 03:16:01,418
nd

14734
03:16:01,418 --> 03:16:02,837
sent a kind of frantic email

14735
03:16:02,837 --> 03:16:04,881
suggesting this needs to be

14736
03:16:04,881 --> 03:16:06,022
considered alongside the options

14737
03:16:06,022 --> 03:16:06,022


14738
03:16:06,022 --> 03:16:08,541
that are proposed in this

14739
03:16:08,541 --> 03:16:08,541
report.

14740
03:16:08,541 --> 03:16:11,167
and so I want to apologize for

14741
03:16:11,167 --> 03:16:11,167


14742
03:16:11,167 --> 03:16:12,611
acting like I was trying to mak

14743
03:16:12,611 --> 03:16:12,611
e

14744
03:16:12,611 --> 03:16:14,052
a recommendation to do this

14745
03:16:14,052 --> 03:16:15,599
instead of that.

14746
03:16:15,599 --> 03:16:17,117
I am glad that this is an

14747
03:16:17,117 --> 03:16:19,419
ongoing conversation.

14748
03:16:19,419 --> 03:16:22,353
and so I want to emphasize tha

14749
03:16:22,353 --> 03:16:22,353
t

14750
03:16:22,353 --> 03:16:23,691
I think what I'm going to speak

14751
03:16:23,691 --> 03:16:23,691
,

14752
03:16:23,691 --> 03:16:25,660
what I'm going to say is more

14753
03:16:25,660 --> 03:16:27,705
towards the procedural than

14754
03:16:27,705 --> 03:16:30,369
towards the infrastructural.

14755
03:16:30,369 --> 03:16:32,369
the community needs to exert the

14756
03:16:32,369 --> 03:16:32,369


14757
03:16:32,369 --> 03:16:33,334
greatest influence on how this

14758
03:16:33,334 --> 03:16:33,334


14759
03:16:33,334 --> 03:16:35,845
resurfacing is done.

14760
03:16:35,845 --> 03:16:37,940
but the -- but the procedure

14761
03:16:37,940 --> 03:16:39,812
sets a precedent that the whole

14762
03:16:39,812 --> 03:16:39,812


14763
03:16:39,812 --> 03:16:41,263
city is eventually going to fee

14764
03:16:41,263 --> 03:16:41,263
l

14765
03:16:41,263 --> 03:16:43,757
the impact of.

14766
03:16:43,757 --> 03:16:46,615
one thing to be aware of is tha

14767
03:16:46,615 --> 03:16:46,615
t

14768
03:16:46,615 --> 03:16:48,223
narrowing car lanes from 11 to

14769
03:16:48,223 --> 03:16:48,223


14770
03:16:48,223 --> 03:16:50,315
10 feet, from 10 to 9 feet,

14771
03:16:50,315 --> 03:16:53,423
reduces speeds, which prevents

14772
03:16:53,423 --> 03:16:53,423


14773
03:16:53,423 --> 03:16:55,407
injury, reduces injury, even if

14774
03:16:55,407 --> 03:16:55,407


14775
03:16:55,407 --> 03:16:56,359
it doesn't reduce number of

14776
03:16:56,359 --> 03:16:56,359
crashes.

14777
03:16:56,359 --> 03:17:01,993
motorists can be spect expecte

14778
03:17:01,993 --> 03:17:01,993
d

14779
03:17:01,993 --> 03:17:04,067
to drive the streets facilitat

14780
03:17:04,067 --> 03:17:04,067
ed

14781
03:17:04,067 --> 03:17:05,556
by the street and road design,

14782
03:17:05,556 --> 03:17:05,556


14783
03:17:05,556 --> 03:17:06,706
more lively than the posted

14784
03:17:06,706 --> 03:17:07,181
speed limits.

14785
03:17:07,181 --> 03:17:08,908
we've seen evidence of that.

14786
03:17:08,908 --> 03:17:10,783
and I would say the city stree

14787
03:17:10,783 --> 03:17:10,783
ts

14788
03:17:10,783 --> 03:17:13,075
nee to be appropriately narrowed

14789
03:17:13,075 --> 03:17:13,075


14790
03:17:13,075 --> 03:17:15,774
if they are wider than necessa

14791
03:17:15,774 --> 03:17:15,774
ry

14792
03:17:15,774 --> 03:17:17,583
in general regardless of the

14793
03:17:17,583 --> 03:17:18,943
impacts of pedestrian -- on

14794
03:17:18,943 --> 03:17:21,279
pedestrians and cyclists.

14795
03:17:21,279 --> 03:17:23,587
speaking as a cyclist, bicycli

14796
03:17:23,587 --> 03:17:23,587
ng

14797
03:17:23,587 --> 03:17:28,519
may not be may not expand at a

14798
03:17:28,519 --> 03:17:28,519


14799
03:17:28,519 --> 03:17:31,263
appreciable rate unless or unt

14800
03:17:31,263 --> 03:17:31,263
il

14801
03:17:31,263 --> 03:17:34,765
the infrastructure is improved.

14802
03:17:34,765 --> 03:17:34,765


14803
03:17:34,765 --> 03:17:37,329
but e-cycling, microtransits,

14804
03:17:37,329 --> 03:17:39,203
are going to expand regardless

14805
03:17:39,203 --> 03:17:39,203


14806
03:17:39,203 --> 03:17:41,077
because they are convenient for

14807
03:17:41,077 --> 03:17:41,077


14808
03:17:41,077 --> 03:17:42,907
people who can't or won't put

14809
03:17:42,907 --> 03:17:44,569
themselves in traffic at a

14810
03:17:44,569 --> 03:17:47,743
relatively low speed bicycle.

14811
03:17:47,743 --> 03:17:49,811
and so infrastructure

14812
03:17:49,811 --> 03:17:50,809
redevelopment needs to

14813
03:17:50,809 --> 03:17:54,559
accommodate at least these thr

14814
03:17:54,559 --> 03:17:54,559
ee

14815
03:17:54,559 --> 03:17:54,559
tiers.

14816
03:17:54,559 --> 03:17:56,559
when you separate at the very

14817
03:17:56,559 --> 03:17:57,917
least we need to separate

14818
03:17:57,917 --> 03:17:59,819
pedestrians from e-bikes.

14819
03:17:59,819 --> 03:18:01,824
and that can't be safely done b

14820
03:18:01,824 --> 03:18:01,824
y

14821
03:18:01,824 --> 03:18:03,426
forcing e-bikes and cyclists

14822
03:18:03,426 --> 03:18:04,959
into the same lanes as traffic

14823
03:18:04,959 --> 03:18:04,959
.

14824
03:18:04,959 --> 03:18:08,064
as car traffic.

14825
03:18:08,064 --> 03:18:10,027
my suggestions were just to

14826
03:18:10,027 --> 03:18:11,669
narrow the lanes by a foot or

14827
03:18:11,669 --> 03:18:13,865
two in each direction, which

14828
03:18:13,865 --> 03:18:15,872
would admit plenty of buffers

14829
03:18:15,872 --> 03:18:19,475
separating a two-way bike path

14830
03:18:19,475 --> 03:18:19,475


14831
03:18:19,475 --> 03:18:20,973
which would then reduce the

14832
03:18:20,973 --> 03:18:22,541
number of zippers by about hal

14833
03:18:22,541 --> 03:18:22,541
f,

14834
03:18:22,541 --> 03:18:29,492
the number of -- and cyclists b

14835
03:18:29,492 --> 03:18:29,492
y

14836
03:18:29,492 --> 03:18:30,749
half by putting all the bike

14837
03:18:30,749 --> 03:18:32,193
infrastructure on one side of

14838
03:18:32,193 --> 03:18:35,887
the road.

14839
03:18:35,887 --> 03:18:37,860
and make it more inviting to

14840
03:18:37,860 --> 03:18:40,195
people riding together.

14841
03:18:40,195 --> 03:18:46,194
ideally incre use.

14842
03:18:46,194 --> 03:18:46,967
>> mayor: ask you to wrap up,

14843
03:18:46,967 --> 03:18:46,967
please.

14844
03:18:46,967 --> 03:18:48,201
>> that'll be fine.

14845
03:18:48,201 --> 03:18:49,415
I'll wrap up there.

14846
03:18:49,415 --> 03:18:49,838
thank you.

14847
03:18:49,838 --> 03:18:51,579
>> mayor: thank you.

14848
03:18:51,579 --> 03:18:53,345
>> mr. Kip hayes senior,

14849
03:18:53,345 --> 03:18:55,438
followed by ryan undine.

14850
03:18:55,438 --> 03:18:56,969
>> mayor: welcome, mr. Hayes.

14851
03:18:56,969 --> 03:18:58,943
>> thank you.

14852
03:18:58,943 --> 03:19:01,581
thank you for having me.

14853
03:19:01,581 --> 03:19:02,685
make this brief.

14854
03:19:02,685 --> 03:19:05,891
I'm a property owner of

14855
03:19:05,891 --> 03:19:07,863
property, I have property on the

14856
03:19:07,863 --> 03:19:07,863


14857
03:19:07,863 --> 03:19:09,695
corridor of east gainesville

14858
03:19:09,695 --> 03:19:10,453
duval area.

14859
03:19:10,453 --> 03:19:12,861
and I own what's called the

14860
03:19:12,861 --> 03:19:12,861
slab.

14861
03:19:12,861 --> 03:19:15,437
I own the two-story building

14862
03:19:15,437 --> 03:19:17,235
that used to be russell henry's

14863
03:19:17,235 --> 03:19:17,235


14864
03:19:17,235 --> 03:19:18,799
barber shop.

14865
03:19:18,799 --> 03:19:21,207
I own the property between the

14866
03:19:21,207 --> 03:19:21,207


14867
03:19:21,207 --> 03:19:23,067
me and the church of unity.

14868
03:19:23,067 --> 03:19:23,943
we split the lot.

14869
03:19:23,943 --> 03:19:26,043
I own 10 other slots behind the

14870
03:19:26,043 --> 03:19:26,043


14871
03:19:26,043 --> 03:19:27,811
slab and behind the other

14872
03:19:27,811 --> 03:19:31,745
building itself.

14873
03:19:31,745 --> 03:19:34,815
I just got my permits to build

14874
03:19:34,815 --> 03:19:34,815
,

14875
03:19:34,815 --> 03:19:37,452
to build out the russell henry

14876
03:19:37,452 --> 03:19:37,452


14877
03:19:37,452 --> 03:19:40,615
building to a restaurant to a

14878
03:19:40,615 --> 03:19:43,234
food downstairs.

14879
03:19:43,234 --> 03:19:46,655
also applying for the grant to

14880
03:19:46,655 --> 03:19:46,655


14881
03:19:46,655 --> 03:19:48,816
redo the slab and some of the

14882
03:19:48,816 --> 03:19:51,031
parcels behind the slap to put

14883
03:19:51,031 --> 03:19:51,803
a

14884
03:19:51,803 --> 03:19:53,867
small convenient grocery store

14885
03:19:53,867 --> 03:19:53,867


14886
03:19:53,867 --> 03:19:53,867
there.

14887
03:19:53,867 --> 03:19:53,867
right?

14888
03:19:53,867 --> 03:19:56,565
with a pharmacy because we got

14889
03:19:56,565 --> 03:19:56,733
a

14890
03:19:56,733 --> 03:19:58,541
lot of people in duval, you

14891
03:19:58,541 --> 03:20:00,477
know, that need to get to a

14892
03:20:00,477 --> 03:20:01,675
pharmacy that's not I think it'

14893
03:20:01,675 --> 03:20:01,675
s

14894
03:20:01,675 --> 03:20:03,745
either wal-mart or cvs.

14895
03:20:03,745 --> 03:20:05,649
so we also need to do something

14896
03:20:05,649 --> 03:20:05,649


14897
03:20:05,649 --> 03:20:07,931
about the store that's next do

14898
03:20:07,931 --> 03:20:07,931
or

14899
03:20:07,931 --> 03:20:10,145
to the slab, it's on that

14900
03:20:10,145 --> 03:20:12,788
corridor as well.

14901
03:20:12,788 --> 03:20:16,163
and I figure if we put a bette

14902
03:20:16,163 --> 03:20:16,163
r

14903
03:20:16,163 --> 03:20:20,128
product on 8th avenue, better

14904
03:20:20,128 --> 03:20:23,233
services, better sort of a

14905
03:20:23,233 --> 03:20:24,263
better convenience store but a

14906
03:20:24,263 --> 03:20:24,263


14907
03:20:24,263 --> 03:20:27,445
small grocery store, it will

14908
03:20:27,445 --> 03:20:28,137
eliminate a lot of the things

14909
03:20:28,137 --> 03:20:29,173
going on at that store.

14910
03:20:29,173 --> 03:20:30,801
I'm saying all that because the

14911
03:20:30,801 --> 03:20:30,801


14912
03:20:30,801 --> 03:20:34,110
bike lanes even in the future

14913
03:20:34,110 --> 03:20:35,411
with the traffic that this

14914
03:20:35,411 --> 03:20:36,275
particular project that I'm

14915
03:20:36,275 --> 03:20:37,273
working on is, that I'm

14916
03:20:37,273 --> 03:20:40,091
developing, there would be no

14917
03:20:40,091 --> 03:20:42,419
need, there would be no room for

14918
03:20:42,419 --> 03:20:42,419


14919
03:20:42,419 --> 03:20:43,679
a bike lane with the traffic

14920
03:20:43,679 --> 03:20:45,781
that's going to increase with

14921
03:20:45,781 --> 03:20:46,821
the businesses that I'm trying

14922
03:20:46,821 --> 03:20:46,821


14923
03:20:46,821 --> 03:20:48,497
to set up there.

14924
03:20:48,497 --> 03:20:48,497
right?

14925
03:20:48,497 --> 03:20:52,088
I agree with the resurfacing.

14926
03:20:52,088 --> 03:20:53,629
and I agree with that

14927
03:20:53,629 --> 03:20:53,629
wholeheartedly.

14928
03:20:53,629 --> 03:20:55,263
we been needing that.

14929
03:20:55,263 --> 03:20:59,427
but as far as adding bike lanes

14930
03:20:59,427 --> 03:20:59,427
,

14931
03:20:59,427 --> 03:21:01,677
now or in the future, to what I

14932
03:21:01,677 --> 03:21:01,677


14933
03:21:01,677 --> 03:21:04,001
plan on doing, over there as fa

14934
03:21:04,001 --> 03:21:04,001
r

14935
03:21:04,001 --> 03:21:06,577
as enhancing that community,

14936
03:21:06,577 --> 03:21:07,673
putting a better product out

14937
03:21:07,673 --> 03:21:10,539
there, having a better service

14938
03:21:10,539 --> 03:21:10,539


14939
03:21:10,539 --> 03:21:14,323
for the community itself, I

14940
03:21:14,323 --> 03:21:15,309
don't see how that's going to

14941
03:21:15,309 --> 03:21:15,309
work.

14942
03:21:15,309 --> 03:21:17,425
I'm from that area.

14943
03:21:17,425 --> 03:21:18,227
I grew up in that area.

14944
03:21:18,227 --> 03:21:20,321
I grew up in duval.

14945
03:21:20,321 --> 03:21:21,857
my mom still lives over there.

14946
03:21:21,857 --> 03:21:21,857


14947
03:21:21,857 --> 03:21:23,523
I'm -- the people in the --

14948
03:21:23,523 --> 03:21:24,929
sitting behind me they see me

14949
03:21:24,929 --> 03:21:26,147
over there every day cleaning u

14950
03:21:26,147 --> 03:21:26,147
p

14951
03:21:26,147 --> 03:21:26,901
that property.

14952
03:21:26,901 --> 03:21:29,690
cleared those lots, those, the

14953
03:21:29,690 --> 03:21:29,690


14954
03:21:29,690 --> 03:21:32,103
trees, the bushes, overbrush,

14955
03:21:32,103 --> 03:21:32,706
all that stuff.

14956
03:21:32,706 --> 03:21:33,983
I did all that with my own dim

14957
03:21:33,983 --> 03:21:33,983
e,

14958
03:21:33,983 --> 03:21:34,940
I bought this property with my

14959
03:21:34,940 --> 03:21:34,940


14960
03:21:34,940 --> 03:21:35,647
own money.

14961
03:21:35,647 --> 03:21:37,938
so I invested my own money int

14962
03:21:37,938 --> 03:21:37,938
o

14963
03:21:37,938 --> 03:21:39,472
this area because this is my

14964
03:21:39,472 --> 03:21:39,472
area.

14965
03:21:39,472 --> 03:21:41,009
this is my property.

14966
03:21:41,009 --> 03:21:42,206
I hate to see what's going on

14967
03:21:42,206 --> 03:21:45,188
over there, but I'm one man.

14968
03:21:45,188 --> 03:21:46,003
if the city really wants to

14969
03:21:46,003 --> 03:21:47,419
help, help me put a grocery

14970
03:21:47,419 --> 03:21:48,181
store on my property.

14971
03:21:48,181 --> 03:21:49,382
help me develop it.

14972
03:21:49,382 --> 03:21:51,453
help me hire -- you know,

14973
03:21:51,453 --> 03:21:53,007
whatever you want to do, as fa

14974
03:21:53,007 --> 03:21:53,007
r

14975
03:21:53,007 --> 03:21:54,649
as developing that area, getti

14976
03:21:54,649 --> 03:21:54,649
ng

14977
03:21:54,649 --> 03:21:56,957
rid of the slab, and running

14978
03:21:56,957 --> 03:21:57,897
that convenience store out of

14979
03:21:57,897 --> 03:21:58,661
business because I don't think

14980
03:21:58,661 --> 03:21:58,661


14981
03:21:58,661 --> 03:22:01,229
they can be bought out, so let

14982
03:22:01,229 --> 03:22:01,229
's

14983
03:22:01,229 --> 03:22:02,011
do that.

14984
03:22:02,011 --> 03:22:04,589
thank you.

14985
03:22:04,589 --> 03:22:05,725
>> mayor: thank you.

14986
03:22:05,725 --> 03:22:08,365
>> brian undine.

14987
03:22:08,365 --> 03:22:09,071
>> question for him.

14988
03:22:09,071 --> 03:22:09,547
>> mayor: hold on.

14989
03:22:09,547 --> 03:22:10,524
just a minute, mr. Hayes.

14990
03:22:10,524 --> 03:22:11,639
come back up.

14991
03:22:11,639 --> 03:22:14,443
we have a question for you.

14992
03:22:14,443 --> 03:22:14,874
commissioner chestnut.

14993
03:22:14,874 --> 03:22:15,307
>> thank you.

14994
03:22:15,307 --> 03:22:16,592
thank you, mr. Hayes.

14995
03:22:16,592 --> 03:22:17,685
it sounds like you are taking

14996
03:22:17,685 --> 03:22:20,059
advantage of the grant that the

14997
03:22:20,059 --> 03:22:20,059


14998
03:22:20,059 --> 03:22:20,563
city --

14999
03:22:20,563 --> 03:22:22,052
>> yes, ma'am, I have a --

15000
03:22:22,052 --> 03:22:23,059
>> made available --

15001
03:22:23,059 --> 03:22:24,094
>> yes, ma'am, I have a grant

15002
03:22:24,094 --> 03:22:24,923
writer on it right now.

15003
03:22:24,923 --> 03:22:25,919
we're going to submit it in the

15004
03:22:25,919 --> 03:22:25,919


15005
03:22:25,919 --> 03:22:27,427
next couple of days hopefully t

15006
03:22:27,427 --> 03:22:27,427
o

15007
03:22:27,427 --> 03:22:31,235
help with the slab part and some

15008
03:22:31,235 --> 03:22:31,235


15009
03:22:31,235 --> 03:22:32,925
facade work on the russell hen

15010
03:22:32,925 --> 03:22:32,925
ry

15011
03:22:32,925 --> 03:22:34,135
building as well.

15012
03:22:34,135 --> 03:22:37,103
I just was permitted, thanks t

15013
03:22:37,103 --> 03:22:37,103
o

15014
03:22:37,103 --> 03:22:38,529
the andrew persons in the offic

15015
03:22:38,529 --> 03:22:38,529
e

15016
03:22:38,529 --> 03:22:40,167
really helping me get my permi

15017
03:22:40,167 --> 03:22:40,167
ts

15018
03:22:40,167 --> 03:22:42,941
and stuff going through and

15019
03:22:42,941 --> 03:22:43,911
commissioner desmon.

15020
03:22:43,911 --> 03:22:45,701
they really helped me because

15021
03:22:45,701 --> 03:22:47,445
this permit with the building

15022
03:22:47,445 --> 03:22:50,177
department took a year.

15023
03:22:50,177 --> 03:22:51,239
and then gun violence helped m

15024
03:22:51,239 --> 03:22:51,239
e

15025
03:22:51,239 --> 03:22:53,553
up a year on the wastewater --

15026
03:22:53,553 --> 03:22:53,553


15027
03:22:53,553 --> 03:22:55,715
gru helped     help held me up

15028
03:22:55,715 --> 03:22:55,831
a

15029
03:22:55,831 --> 03:22:56,613
year on the wastewater.

15030
03:22:56,613 --> 03:22:58,041
when I got them involved, when

15031
03:22:58,041 --> 03:22:58,041
I

15032
03:22:58,041 --> 03:23:06,631
got mr. Persons involved and

15033
03:23:06,631 --> 03:23:07,825
commissioner duncan-walker

15034
03:23:07,825 --> 03:23:09,395
involved, I got my permits.

15035
03:23:09,395 --> 03:23:11,163
I got my permits last month and

15036
03:23:11,163 --> 03:23:11,163


15037
03:23:11,163 --> 03:23:13,135
now they comup with the grant,

15038
03:23:13,135 --> 03:23:13,135


15039
03:23:13,135 --> 03:23:15,105
so I slowed down on what I was

15040
03:23:15,105 --> 03:23:15,105


15041
03:23:15,105 --> 03:23:16,049
doing because I'm spending my

15042
03:23:16,049 --> 03:23:17,873
own money like I say to apply

15043
03:23:17,873 --> 03:23:19,651
for some of that money as well

15044
03:23:19,651 --> 03:23:19,651


15045
03:23:19,651 --> 03:23:20,847
because I believe if we put a

15046
03:23:20,847 --> 03:23:22,711
pharmacy over there with a nic

15047
03:23:22,711 --> 03:23:22,711
e

15048
03:23:22,711 --> 03:23:24,449
little grocery store, it doesn

15049
03:23:24,449 --> 03:23:24,449
't

15050
03:23:24,449 --> 03:23:25,153
have to be really big.

15051
03:23:25,153 --> 03:23:26,201
it just has to be what the

15052
03:23:26,201 --> 03:23:27,079
community needs and a pharmacy

15053
03:23:27,079 --> 03:23:27,079


15054
03:23:27,079 --> 03:23:29,483
in that put it over there, man

15055
03:23:29,483 --> 03:23:29,483
,

15056
03:23:29,483 --> 03:23:30,912
and I think we'll do real well.

15057
03:23:30,912 --> 03:23:30,912


15058
03:23:30,912 --> 03:23:32,687
I think that it'll change the

15059
03:23:32,687 --> 03:23:33,889
way it looks.

15060
03:23:33,889 --> 03:23:35,465
and the way it feels walking

15061
03:23:35,465 --> 03:23:36,525
down the street of east

15062
03:23:36,525 --> 03:23:36,525
gainesville.

15063
03:23:36,525 --> 03:23:39,525
it doesn't feel good, doesn't

15064
03:23:39,525 --> 03:23:39,826
feel safe.

15065
03:23:39,826 --> 03:23:41,113
you know, I'm over there all t

15066
03:23:41,113 --> 03:23:41,113
he

15067
03:23:41,113 --> 03:23:43,166
time and I'm like it's just

15068
03:23:43,166 --> 03:23:44,337
don't feel right, don't feel

15069
03:23:44,337 --> 03:23:47,109
like home and it's supposed to

15070
03:23:47,109 --> 03:23:47,109


15071
03:23:47,109 --> 03:23:48,174
be my home, you know?

15072
03:23:48,174 --> 03:23:50,042
>> well, I want to thank you f

15073
03:23:50,042 --> 03:23:50,042
or

15074
03:23:50,042 --> 03:23:53,413
your due diligence and being

15075
03:23:53,413 --> 03:23:54,433
steady and applying for the

15076
03:23:54,433 --> 03:23:54,433
grant.

15077
03:23:54,433 --> 03:23:55,273
>> thank you.

15078
03:23:55,273 --> 03:23:55,981
>> so thank you.

15079
03:23:55,981 --> 03:23:56,847
>> thank you too.

15080
03:23:56,847 --> 03:23:57,907
>> mayor: thank you.

15081
03:23:57,907 --> 03:23:59,206
commissioner chestnut, and the

15082
03:23:59,206 --> 03:23:59,206
n

15083
03:23:59,206 --> 03:24:01,215
commissioner duncan-walker.

15084
03:24:01,215 --> 03:24:02,222
>> mr. Mayor, mine is just

15085
03:24:02,222 --> 03:24:03,383
simply a comment.

15086
03:24:03,383 --> 03:24:05,582
I wanted to also thank you,

15087
03:24:05,582 --> 03:24:06,561
mr. Hayes.

15088
03:24:06,561 --> 03:24:08,123
we've had numerous conversatio

15089
03:24:08,123 --> 03:24:08,123
ns

15090
03:24:08,123 --> 03:24:10,232
over quite sometime now with

15091
03:24:10,232 --> 03:24:12,596
regards to the type of

15092
03:24:12,596 --> 03:24:13,368
innovation that you want to

15093
03:24:13,368 --> 03:24:16,295
bring to that area that is, tha

15094
03:24:16,295 --> 03:24:16,295
t

15095
03:24:16,295 --> 03:24:18,541
is different, and I think

15096
03:24:18,541 --> 03:24:20,467
colleagues expect to hear from

15097
03:24:20,467 --> 03:24:20,467


15098
03:24:20,467 --> 03:24:23,467
him based on a much more recen

15099
03:24:23,467 --> 03:24:23,467
t

15100
03:24:23,467 --> 03:24:25,000
conversation and a more formal

15101
03:24:25,000 --> 03:24:25,000


15102
03:24:25,000 --> 03:24:25,925
way in terms of a different typ

15103
03:24:25,925 --> 03:24:25,925
e

15104
03:24:25,925 --> 03:24:28,109
of proposal that will also

15105
03:24:28,109 --> 03:24:29,517
impact that area, and so that'

15106
03:24:29,517 --> 03:24:29,517
s

15107
03:24:29,517 --> 03:24:30,726
why this conversation is so

15108
03:24:30,726 --> 03:24:30,726
important.

15109
03:24:30,726 --> 03:24:33,682
I'll conclude right here but

15110
03:24:33,682 --> 03:24:34,813
just to be on the look out for

15111
03:24:34,813 --> 03:24:34,813


15112
03:24:34,813 --> 03:24:35,879
something that I believe is

15113
03:24:35,879 --> 03:24:37,195
coming forward.

15114
03:24:37,195 --> 03:24:38,849
I think andrew I mentioned it t

15115
03:24:38,849 --> 03:24:38,849
o

15116
03:24:38,849 --> 03:24:41,825
you as well, so thank you once

15117
03:24:41,825 --> 03:24:41,825


15118
03:24:41,825 --> 03:24:44,825
again, mr. Hayes, for trying to

15119
03:24:44,825 --> 03:24:44,825


15120
03:24:44,825 --> 03:24:46,325
be a part of the solution with

15121
03:24:46,325 --> 03:24:46,325


15122
03:24:46,325 --> 03:24:49,165
regards toic economic

15123
03:24:49,165 --> 03:24:50,067
development on 8th avenue.you.

15124
03:24:50,067 --> 03:24:50,067


15125
03:24:50,067 --> 03:24:51,897
>> mayor: thank you,

15126
03:24:51,897 --> 03:24:55,475
commissioner duncan-walker --

15127
03:24:55,475 --> 03:24:56,931
>> I d't have a lot to say.

15128
03:24:56,931 --> 03:24:59,081
so thank you for resurfacing

15129
03:24:59,081 --> 03:25:01,675
that road that is fan fastic,

15130
03:25:01,675 --> 03:25:02,911
well needed, fixing the

15131
03:25:02,911 --> 03:25:04,213
sidewalk, that will be great.

15132
03:25:04,213 --> 03:25:05,651
I would like to point out that

15133
03:25:05,651 --> 03:25:05,651


15134
03:25:05,651 --> 03:25:06,723
you're seeing differences in

15135
03:25:06,723 --> 03:25:09,153
speeding from west of waldo,

15136
03:25:09,153 --> 03:25:10,256
they're totally different.

15137
03:25:10,256 --> 03:25:11,783
totally different neighbors and

15138
03:25:11,783 --> 03:25:11,783


15139
03:25:11,783 --> 03:25:13,551
smrkt east of waldo is totally

15140
03:25:13,551 --> 03:25:13,551


15141
03:25:13,551 --> 03:25:15,319
different than any other secti

15142
03:25:15,319 --> 03:25:15,319
on

15143
03:25:15,319 --> 03:25:17,059
of 8th avenue because it's a

15144
03:25:17,059 --> 03:25:17,059
neighborhood.

15145
03:25:17,059 --> 03:25:19,407
that's a neighborhood street.

15146
03:25:19,407 --> 03:25:21,021
the reason you're seeing those

15147
03:25:21,021 --> 03:25:21,021


15148
03:25:21,021 --> 03:25:22,131
speeds is because people are

15149
03:25:22,131 --> 03:25:23,690
coming down waldo road and

15150
03:25:23,690 --> 03:25:25,297
trying to dodge that

15151
03:25:25,297 --> 03:25:26,295
intersection and they come dow

15152
03:25:26,295 --> 03:25:26,295
n,

15153
03:25:26,295 --> 03:25:27,765
they turn right, and they fly

15154
03:25:27,765 --> 03:25:29,643
down that road.

15155
03:25:29,643 --> 03:25:31,841
I live on the corner, I own my

15156
03:25:31,841 --> 03:25:31,841


15157
03:25:31,841 --> 03:25:33,575
home on the corner of 23rd

15158
03:25:33,575 --> 03:25:34,575
street and 8th avenue.

15159
03:25:34,575 --> 03:25:35,372
that's where I live.

15160
03:25:35,372 --> 03:25:37,256
we don't have a sidewalk there

15161
03:25:37,256 --> 03:25:37,256
.

15162
03:25:37,256 --> 03:25:37,906
don't care.

15163
03:25:37,906 --> 03:25:40,344
it can come in and not come in,

15164
03:25:40,344 --> 03:25:40,344


15165
03:25:40,344 --> 03:25:40,755
I don't care.

15166
03:25:40,755 --> 03:25:42,215
the crosswalks is a great idea,

15167
03:25:42,215 --> 03:25:42,215


15168
03:25:42,215 --> 03:25:43,277
as long as you're not ticketing

15169
03:25:43,277 --> 03:25:43,277


15170
03:25:43,277 --> 03:25:44,735
people that don't use them

15171
03:25:44,735 --> 03:25:45,321
because it's a neighborhood

15172
03:25:45,321 --> 03:25:45,321
street.

15173
03:25:45,321 --> 03:25:47,711
people are going to want to go

15174
03:25:47,711 --> 03:25:47,711


15175
03:25:47,711 --> 03:25:48,586
back and forth, right?

15176
03:25:48,586 --> 03:25:49,290
it is a neighborhood.

15177
03:25:49,290 --> 03:25:52,560
having no intralines telling u

15178
03:25:52,560 --> 03:25:52,560
s

15179
03:25:52,560 --> 03:25:55,060
how -- extra lines telling us

15180
03:25:55,060 --> 03:25:56,202
how we have to use the road is

15181
03:25:56,202 --> 03:25:56,202


15182
03:25:56,202 --> 03:25:57,063
okay with us.

15183
03:25:57,063 --> 03:25:59,247
if you want to cut down the

15184
03:25:59,247 --> 03:26:01,033
speed, you have to deter peopl

15185
03:26:01,033 --> 03:26:01,033
e

15186
03:26:01,033 --> 03:26:03,207
from trying to use that as a c

15187
03:26:03,207 --> 03:26:03,207
ut

15188
03:26:03,207 --> 03:26:03,207
through.

15189
03:26:03,207 --> 03:26:05,534
as far as those trees go, those

15190
03:26:05,534 --> 03:26:05,534


15191
03:26:05,534 --> 03:26:06,841
trees can be beautiful healthy

15192
03:26:06,841 --> 03:26:06,841


15193
03:26:06,841 --> 03:26:08,501
trees water oak or not.

15194
03:26:08,501 --> 03:26:09,991
they are designed to get heavy

15195
03:26:09,991 --> 03:26:09,991


15196
03:26:09,991 --> 03:26:11,917
with acorns, load up and break

15197
03:26:11,917 --> 03:26:11,917
,

15198
03:26:11,917 --> 03:26:13,445
and fall down.

15199
03:26:13,445 --> 03:26:15,647
that's how they're evolved and

15200
03:26:15,647 --> 03:26:15,647


15201
03:26:15,647 --> 03:26:18,082
if we're cutting these close t

15202
03:26:18,082 --> 03:26:18,082
o

15203
03:26:18,082 --> 03:26:18,930
the trunk they are going to hav

15204
03:26:18,930 --> 03:26:18,930
e

15205
03:26:18,930 --> 03:26:19,233
rot problems.

15206
03:26:19,233 --> 03:26:21,681
and that's the problem we have

15207
03:26:21,681 --> 03:26:21,681
.

15208
03:26:21,681 --> 03:26:23,441
you send in city crews and

15209
03:26:23,441 --> 03:26:24,521
they're destroying the trees.

15210
03:26:24,521 --> 03:26:25,991
they get unhealthy and are goi

15211
03:26:25,991 --> 03:26:25,991
ng

15212
03:26:25,991 --> 03:26:27,863
to fall.

15213
03:26:27,863 --> 03:26:29,291
I think I said everything.

15214
03:26:29,291 --> 03:26:32,798
oh it food store, yeah.

15215
03:26:32,798 --> 03:26:33,590
if we have accidents on the

15216
03:26:33,590 --> 03:26:35,139
street people getting hit and

15217
03:26:35,139 --> 03:26:36,336
killed that's because they're

15218
03:26:36,336 --> 03:26:37,234
coming from across the street

15219
03:26:37,234 --> 03:26:37,234
of

15220
03:26:37,234 --> 03:26:38,979
the food store stumbling to th

15221
03:26:38,979 --> 03:26:38,979
e

15222
03:26:38,979 --> 03:26:41,971
clarence thomas center and sit

15223
03:26:41,971 --> 03:26:41,971


15224
03:26:41,971 --> 03:26:42,640
down and do whatever.

15225
03:26:42,640 --> 03:26:43,834
I can't even go to that park no

15226
03:26:43,834 --> 03:26:43,834


15227
03:26:43,834 --> 03:26:44,946
more, right wmy daughter.

15228
03:26:44,946 --> 03:26:46,041
I have a 6-year-old daughter.

15229
03:26:46,041 --> 03:26:46,746
that's another thing.

15230
03:26:46,746 --> 03:26:48,517
kids on the street, that's whe

15231
03:26:48,517 --> 03:26:48,517
re

15232
03:26:48,517 --> 03:26:50,151
I taught her to ride her bike.

15233
03:26:50,151 --> 03:26:50,151


15234
03:26:50,151 --> 03:26:50,913
not on that street.

15235
03:26:50,913 --> 03:26:52,048
we don't go on 8th avenue to

15236
03:26:52,048 --> 03:26:53,224
go on that street, all right?

15237
03:26:53,224 --> 03:26:55,255
if we start putting lines on

15238
03:26:55,255 --> 03:26:56,895
there, we got extra laws and

15239
03:26:56,895 --> 03:26:57,987
extra enforcement and we alrea

15240
03:26:57,987 --> 03:26:57,987
dy

15241
03:26:57,987 --> 03:26:59,201
have predatory police trying t

15242
03:26:59,201 --> 03:26:59,201
o

15243
03:26:59,201 --> 03:27:01,262
fill quotas watching for

15244
03:27:01,262 --> 03:27:02,061
teenagers driving slow.

15245
03:27:02,061 --> 03:27:03,747
so please, like we don't need a

15246
03:27:03,747 --> 03:27:03,747


15247
03:27:03,747 --> 03:27:04,728
bunch of extra lines.

15248
03:27:04,728 --> 03:27:06,371
it's just a neighborhood.

15249
03:27:06,371 --> 03:27:07,994
do you want extra lines on the

15250
03:27:07,994 --> 03:27:07,994


15251
03:27:07,994 --> 03:27:09,568
road outside of your house?

15252
03:27:09,568 --> 03:27:10,535
probably not.

15253
03:27:10,535 --> 03:27:11,074
probably not.

15254
03:27:11,074 --> 03:27:12,148
so I hope y'all have a great

15255
03:27:12,148 --> 03:27:12,148
day.

15256
03:27:12,148 --> 03:27:13,203
god bless.

15257
03:27:13,203 --> 03:27:14,303
thank you.

15258
03:27:14,303 --> 03:27:15,930
for fixing it and next time I

15259
03:27:15,930 --> 03:27:16,590
see you I'll probably be angry

15260
03:27:16,590 --> 03:27:16,590
,

15261
03:27:16,590 --> 03:27:18,282
who knows, I'm crazy, right?

15262
03:27:18,282 --> 03:27:18,852
>> mayor: thank you.

15263
03:27:18,852 --> 03:27:21,254
>> we did have another sign up,

15264
03:27:21,254 --> 03:27:21,254


15265
03:27:21,254 --> 03:27:24,118
arb   armando grundy gomez.

15266
03:27:24,118 --> 03:27:25,200
>> welcome, mr. Gundy.

15267
03:27:25,200 --> 03:27:26,297
>> thank you, mr. Mayor.

15268
03:27:26,297 --> 03:27:27,688
armando grundy gomez.

15269
03:27:27,688 --> 03:27:29,652
I guess I want to do a contrac

15270
03:27:29,652 --> 03:27:29,652
ts

15271
03:27:29,652 --> 03:27:31,808
when it comes -- contrast when

15272
03:27:31,808 --> 03:27:31,808


15273
03:27:31,808 --> 03:27:32,760
it comes to public works

15274
03:27:32,760 --> 03:27:33,844
projects of this nature when I

15275
03:27:33,844 --> 03:27:33,844
t

15276
03:27:33,844 --> 03:27:35,160
comes to quote, unquote,

15277
03:27:35,160 --> 03:27:35,580
complete streets.

15278
03:27:35,580 --> 03:27:37,068
I remember the last time a few

15279
03:27:37,068 --> 03:27:37,068


15280
03:27:37,068 --> 03:27:38,166
iterations ago a few years ago

15281
03:27:38,166 --> 03:27:38,166


15282
03:27:38,166 --> 03:27:39,662
when we talk about complete

15283
03:27:39,662 --> 03:27:40,900
streets, we talk about

15284
03:27:40,900 --> 03:27:42,106
university avenue which also

15285
03:27:42,106 --> 03:27:43,846
goes also into our community a

15286
03:27:43,846 --> 03:27:43,846
nd

15287
03:27:43,846 --> 03:27:44,912
district 1.

15288
03:27:44,912 --> 03:27:46,282
and in that during that

15289
03:27:46,282 --> 03:27:48,072
conversation and that time, the

15290
03:27:48,072 --> 03:27:48,072


15291
03:27:48,072 --> 03:27:49,170
only real section of university

15292
03:27:49,170 --> 03:27:49,170


15293
03:27:49,170 --> 03:27:51,014
avenue that's really a complete

15294
03:27:51,014 --> 03:27:51,014


15295
03:27:51,014 --> 03:27:53,119
street is in and around and by

15296
03:27:53,119 --> 03:27:53,119


15297
03:27:53,119 --> 03:27:54,020
the definition of a complete

15298
03:27:54,020 --> 03:27:55,976
street, I'm talking about for

15299
03:27:55,976 --> 03:27:56,856
the department of transportatio

15300
03:27:56,856 --> 03:27:56,856
n

15301
03:27:56,856 --> 03:27:58,726
and what civil engineers will

15302
03:27:58,726 --> 03:27:59,922
recognize as you having a  mu

15303
03:27:59,922 --> 03:28:02,184
multimodal pedestrian friendly

15304
03:28:02,184 --> 03:28:02,184


15305
03:28:02,184 --> 03:28:03,458
slowing down of traffic,

15306
03:28:03,458 --> 03:28:05,110
et cetera, you have that in and

15307
03:28:05,110 --> 03:28:05,110


15308
03:28:05,110 --> 03:28:06,334
around the university but if yo

15309
03:28:06,334 --> 03:28:06,334
u

15310
03:28:06,334 --> 03:28:09,059
have it down in district 1, pas

15311
03:28:09,059 --> 03:28:09,059
t

15312
03:28:09,059 --> 03:28:10,898
waldo road you don't pretty muc

15313
03:28:10,898 --> 03:28:10,898
h

15314
03:28:10,898 --> 03:28:12,697
you don't see that too much.

15315
03:28:12,697 --> 03:28:14,196
you don't see it slowing down.

15316
03:28:14,196 --> 03:28:14,196


15317
03:28:14,196 --> 03:28:15,634
of course we have traffic death

15318
03:28:15,634 --> 03:28:15,634
s

15319
03:28:15,634 --> 03:28:17,214
but we also have traffic deaths

15320
03:28:17,214 --> 03:28:17,214


15321
03:28:17,214 --> 03:28:18,406
in district 1 too.

15322
03:28:18,406 --> 03:28:19,498
so I just find it interesting

15323
03:28:19,498 --> 03:28:22,982
that we're having the tale of

15324
03:28:22,982 --> 03:28:24,015
two streets.

15325
03:28:24,015 --> 03:28:26,488
so it   I guess I want to

15326
03:28:26,488 --> 03:28:27,986
understand where all this energ

15327
03:28:27,986 --> 03:28:27,986


15328
03:28:27,986 --> 03:28:32,136
is coming from to want to have

15329
03:28:32,136 --> 03:28:32,136


15330
03:28:32,136 --> 03:28:34,450
this --  one person would say

15331
03:28:34,450 --> 03:28:35,984
we're resurfacing it.

15332
03:28:35,984 --> 03:28:37,858
is that really the reiteration

15333
03:28:37,858 --> 03:28:37,858


15334
03:28:37,858 --> 03:28:39,826
of why we're doing this?

15335
03:28:39,826 --> 03:28:40,566
of course we want to have bike

15336
03:28:40,566 --> 03:28:40,566


15337
03:28:40,566 --> 03:28:41,602
lanes and they're good, but if

15338
03:28:41,602 --> 03:28:41,602


15339
03:28:41,602 --> 03:28:44,662
that was the case why didn't w

15340
03:28:44,662 --> 03:28:44,662
e

15341
03:28:44,662 --> 03:28:45,694
complete university avenue all

15342
03:28:45,694 --> 03:28:45,694


15343
03:28:45,694 --> 03:28:47,036
the way down too and make it a

15344
03:28:47,036 --> 03:28:47,036


15345
03:28:47,036 --> 03:28:47,696
real complete street?

15346
03:28:47,696 --> 03:28:48,670
because it is the same

15347
03:28:48,670 --> 03:28:49,644
university avenue if I turn off

15348
03:28:49,644 --> 03:28:49,644


15349
03:28:49,644 --> 03:28:51,633
of williston road and turn lef

15350
03:28:51,633 --> 03:28:51,633
t,

15351
03:28:51,633 --> 03:28:53,076
and go toward university of

15352
03:28:53,076 --> 03:28:54,634
florida, it's not a complete

15353
03:28:54,634 --> 03:28:58,577
street when you come off

15354
03:28:58,577 --> 03:29:01,512
williston road.

15355
03:29:01,512 --> 03:29:04,964
oh urmy, my      my god it slo

15356
03:29:04,964 --> 03:29:05,058
ws down

15357
03:29:05,058 --> 03:29:06,154
and is beautiful and wonderful

15358
03:29:06,154 --> 03:29:06,154


15359
03:29:06,154 --> 03:29:07,720
and gorgeous.

15360
03:29:07,720 --> 03:29:09,048
so that would be my question why

15361
03:29:09,048 --> 03:29:09,048


15362
03:29:09,048 --> 03:29:09,048
now.

15363
03:29:09,048 --> 03:29:10,887
where is all this and it's not

15364
03:29:10,887 --> 03:29:10,887


15365
03:29:10,887 --> 03:29:13,761
simply because we're resurfacing

15366
03:29:13,761 --> 03:29:13,761


15367
03:29:13,761 --> 03:29:13,761
it.

15368
03:29:13,761 --> 03:29:19,906
make it make sense.

15369
03:29:19,906 --> 03:29:21,330
and what's the total cost of

15370
03:29:21,330 --> 03:29:21,330
this?

15371
03:29:21,330 --> 03:29:24,658
so but what we would be great I

15372
03:29:24,658 --> 03:29:24,658
s

15373
03:29:24,658 --> 03:29:25,381
when we're having the

15374
03:29:25,381 --> 03:29:27,058
conversation about the 8th and

15375
03:29:27,058 --> 03:29:27,058


15376
03:29:27,058 --> 03:29:28,680
waldo road project is why is

15377
03:29:28,680 --> 03:29:29,952
waldo road looking the same as

15378
03:29:29,952 --> 03:29:29,952


15379
03:29:29,952 --> 03:29:31,896
it has for 40 years, why are w

15380
03:29:31,896 --> 03:29:31,896
e

15381
03:29:31,896 --> 03:29:33,496
not having real economic

15382
03:29:33,496 --> 03:29:35,458
investment in economic in that

15383
03:29:35,458 --> 03:29:35,458


15384
03:29:35,458 --> 03:29:36,912
corridor, real economic

15385
03:29:36,912 --> 03:29:36,912
investment.

15386
03:29:36,912 --> 03:29:38,620
I'm not talking about parts and

15387
03:29:38,620 --> 03:29:38,620


15388
03:29:38,620 --> 03:29:40,484
piece3450e8ing we're doing

15389
03:29:40,484 --> 03:29:44,556
street cafes with gcra money.

15390
03:29:44,556 --> 03:29:45,328
I want to have real

15391
03:29:45,328 --> 03:29:46,138
conversations about what we ca

15392
03:29:46,138 --> 03:29:46,138
n

15393
03:29:46,138 --> 03:29:49,338
do to have meaningful impact in

15394
03:29:49,338 --> 03:29:49,338


15395
03:29:49,338 --> 03:29:51,701
the community that sees

15396
03:29:51,701 --> 03:29:52,466
disinvestment from you and not

15397
03:29:52,466 --> 03:29:52,466


15398
03:29:52,466 --> 03:29:52,879
real investment.

15399
03:29:52,879 --> 03:29:53,932
thank you so much.

15400
03:29:53,932 --> 03:29:54,466
>> mayor: thank you,

15401
03:29:54,466 --> 03:29:55,856
mr. Grundy.

15402
03:29:55,856 --> 03:29:56,724
I do want to point out we have

15403
03:29:56,724 --> 03:29:56,724


15404
03:29:56,724 --> 03:29:58,341
been trying to get the funds

15405
03:29:58,341 --> 03:30:00,514
released to do the similar wor

15406
03:30:00,514 --> 03:30:00,514
k

15407
03:30:00,514 --> 03:30:03,376
on the east end of university

15408
03:30:03,376 --> 03:30:06,213
avenue that fdot released to d

15409
03:30:06,213 --> 03:30:06,213
o

15410
03:30:06,213 --> 03:30:07,780
in front of the university of

15411
03:30:07,780 --> 03:30:09,546
florida for a number of years,

15412
03:30:09,546 --> 03:30:09,546


15413
03:30:09,546 --> 03:30:10,415
some of those times while you

15414
03:30:10,415 --> 03:30:11,914
were sitting in the room,

15415
03:30:11,914 --> 03:30:13,230
mr. Grundy.

15416
03:30:13,230 --> 03:30:15,822
but I would love to be able to

15417
03:30:15,822 --> 03:30:15,822


15418
03:30:15,822 --> 03:30:17,590
get a safer east university

15419
03:30:17,590 --> 03:30:19,126
avenue as I'm on the record

15420
03:30:19,126 --> 03:30:20,598
voting for a number of times.

15421
03:30:20,598 --> 03:30:22,236
so thank you for that.

15422
03:30:22,236 --> 03:30:23,858
anyone else?

15423
03:30:23,858 --> 03:30:25,530
>> [off mic]

15424
03:30:25,530 --> 03:30:26,470
>> mayor: okay.

15425
03:30:26,470 --> 03:30:28,300
as we move forward, I want to

15426
03:30:28,300 --> 03:30:31,934
let everybody know that unless

15427
03:30:31,934 --> 03:30:31,934


15428
03:30:31,934 --> 03:30:34,240
there is a objection we're goi

15429
03:30:34,240 --> 03:30:34,240
ng

15430
03:30:34,240 --> 03:30:36,318
to move the two land use -- th

15431
03:30:36,318 --> 03:30:36,318
e

15432
03:30:36,318 --> 03:30:38,316
land use and zoning item forwa

15433
03:30:38,316 --> 03:30:38,316
rd

15434
03:30:38,316 --> 03:30:39,650
to the end of the agenda becau

15435
03:30:39,650 --> 03:30:39,650
se

15436
03:30:39,650 --> 03:30:40,848
we clearly don't have time for

15437
03:30:40,848 --> 03:30:40,848


15438
03:30:40,848 --> 03:30:44,560
them this afternoon.

15439
03:30:44,560 --> 03:30:45,554
and again, what we're talking

15440
03:30:45,554 --> 03:30:49,202
about here is where do we go

15441
03:30:49,202 --> 03:30:51,992
forward as far as more, more

15442
03:30:51,992 --> 03:30:54,610
engagement and more planning, w

15443
03:30:54,610 --> 03:30:54,610
e

15444
03:30:54,610 --> 03:30:57,706
have not had the opportunity t

15445
03:30:57,706 --> 03:30:57,706
o

15446
03:30:57,706 --> 03:31:00,466
have funding available to do

15447
03:31:00,466 --> 03:31:01,702
anything yet as we've said fro

15448
03:31:01,702 --> 03:31:01,702
m

15449
03:31:01,702 --> 03:31:03,369
the beginning of this item.

15450
03:31:03,369 --> 03:31:05,042
so I don't want anybody to thin

15451
03:31:05,042 --> 03:31:05,042
k

15452
03:31:05,042 --> 03:31:06,005
once again that we are in the

15453
03:31:06,005 --> 03:31:10,817
process of rolling out

15454
03:31:10,817 --> 03:31:11,799
crosswalks and all that sort o

15455
03:31:11,799 --> 03:31:11,799
f

15456
03:31:11,799 --> 03:31:13,482
thing right now because it's n

15457
03:31:13,482 --> 03:31:13,482
ot

15458
03:31:13,482 --> 03:31:16,950
funded at this point.

15459
03:31:16,950 --> 03:31:17,950
many, many lights.

15460
03:31:17,950 --> 03:31:19,281
before we move on from this

15461
03:31:19,281 --> 03:31:23,456
item, so commissioner ingle.

15462
03:31:23,456 --> 03:31:24,268
>> I would like to make a motio

15463
03:31:24,268 --> 03:31:24,268
n

15464
03:31:24,268 --> 03:31:26,854
his item until there

15465
03:31:26,854 --> 03:31:29,295
has been community input.

15466
03:31:29,295 --> 03:31:30,806
>> second.

15467
03:31:30,806 --> 03:31:31,458
>> mayor: would

15468
03:31:31,458 --> 03:31:33,466
>> would the maker of the

15469
03:31:33,466 --> 03:31:35,093
motion -- well, let me just say

15470
03:31:35,093 --> 03:31:35,093


15471
03:31:35,093 --> 03:31:35,093
this.

15472
03:31:35,093 --> 03:31:36,332
I'm speaking out of turn.

15473
03:31:36,332 --> 03:31:37,699
>> mayor: go ahead, it's all

15474
03:31:37,699 --> 03:31:37,699
right.

15475
03:31:37,699 --> 03:31:40,738
>> in the interest of clarity

15476
03:31:40,738 --> 03:31:44,347
I'm going to convene a meeting

15477
03:31:44,347 --> 03:31:44,347


15478
03:31:44,347 --> 03:31:45,787
as the district 1 commissioner.

15479
03:31:45,787 --> 03:31:45,787


15480
03:31:45,787 --> 03:31:47,451
I I am going to convene a

15481
03:31:47,451 --> 03:31:47,451
meeting.

15482
03:31:47,451 --> 03:31:49,195
it is something that I've

15483
03:31:49,195 --> 03:31:52,017
already mentioned to staff.

15484
03:31:52,017 --> 03:31:53,487
because there is a certain way

15485
03:31:53,487 --> 03:31:53,487


15486
03:31:53,487 --> 03:31:55,163
that I know that I can convene

15487
03:31:55,163 --> 03:31:55,353
a

15488
03:31:55,353 --> 03:31:55,353
meeting.

15489
03:31:55,353 --> 03:31:56,498
there are certain things that

15490
03:31:56,498 --> 03:31:57,362
are important to me about the

15491
03:31:57,362 --> 03:31:58,931
way that these meetings should

15492
03:31:58,931 --> 03:31:58,931


15493
03:31:58,931 --> 03:32:02,867
go but also it's important to m

15494
03:32:02,867 --> 03:32:02,867
e

15495
03:32:02,867 --> 03:32:04,365
that I can convene this.

15496
03:32:04,365 --> 03:32:05,631
understand that when I say I'm

15497
03:32:05,631 --> 03:32:05,631


15498
03:32:05,631 --> 03:32:06,883
going to convene the meeting t

15499
03:32:06,883 --> 03:32:06,883
he

15500
03:32:06,883 --> 03:32:07,831
meeting that I'm talking about

15501
03:32:07,831 --> 03:32:07,831


15502
03:32:07,831 --> 03:32:10,541
is going to be very similar to

15503
03:32:10,541 --> 03:32:10,541


15504
03:32:10,541 --> 03:32:12,054
what we did over at cone park a

15505
03:32:12,054 --> 03:32:12,054


15506
03:32:12,054 --> 03:32:13,723
couple of weeks ago and it will

15507
03:32:13,723 --> 03:32:13,723


15508
03:32:13,723 --> 03:32:16,115
be a robust experience, not jus

15509
03:32:16,115 --> 03:32:16,115
t

15510
03:32:16,115 --> 03:32:18,423
where you're being provided

15511
03:32:18,423 --> 03:32:20,125
information, but where you wil

15512
03:32:20,125 --> 03:32:20,125
l

15513
03:32:20,125 --> 03:32:21,343
have the opportunity to speak

15514
03:32:21,343 --> 03:32:23,979
because that's the whole point

15515
03:32:23,979 --> 03:32:23,979
.

15516
03:32:23,979 --> 03:32:26,515
so I'm sorry I was going to ask

15517
03:32:26,515 --> 03:32:26,515


15518
03:32:26,515 --> 03:32:28,291
you to add something to that a

15519
03:32:28,291 --> 03:32:28,291
nd

15520
03:32:28,291 --> 03:32:29,051
I don't think I need to in lig

15521
03:32:29,051 --> 03:32:29,051
ht

15522
03:32:29,051 --> 03:32:29,659
of that.

15523
03:32:29,659 --> 03:32:30,863
>> all right.

15524
03:32:30,863 --> 03:32:31,497
>> mayor: all right.

15525
03:32:31,497 --> 03:32:32,593
you good, commissioner

15526
03:32:32,593 --> 03:32:32,593
duncan-walker?

15527
03:32:32,593 --> 03:32:33,695
>> I think so.

15528
03:32:33,695 --> 03:32:34,801
>> mayor: all right.

15529
03:32:34,801 --> 03:32:37,101
commissioner willits.

15530
03:32:37,101 --> 03:32:37,707
>> thank you, mr. Mayor.

15531
03:32:37,707 --> 03:32:39,869
can staff just read from our

15532
03:32:39,869 --> 03:32:40,867
comp plan why it is that we're

15533
03:32:40,867 --> 03:32:40,867


15534
03:32:40,867 --> 03:32:43,139
doing this?

15535
03:32:43,139 --> 03:32:44,601
can it be read just so it's

15536
03:32:44,601 --> 03:32:44,601
clear?

15537
03:32:44,601 --> 03:32:46,171
I can't find it searching comp

15538
03:32:46,171 --> 03:32:46,171


15539
03:32:46,171 --> 03:32:46,171
plan.

15540
03:32:46,171 --> 03:32:48,304
or comp plan specifically says

15541
03:32:48,304 --> 03:32:48,304


15542
03:32:48,304 --> 03:32:51,777
when we resurface, I'm trying t

15543
03:32:51,777 --> 03:32:51,777
o

15544
03:32:51,777 --> 03:32:53,443
remember the type of road, but

15545
03:32:53,443 --> 03:32:53,443


15546
03:32:53,443 --> 03:32:54,749
there's a specific type of roa

15547
03:32:54,749 --> 03:32:54,749
d

15548
03:32:54,749 --> 03:32:56,978
that when we go to resurface I

15549
03:32:56,978 --> 03:32:56,978
t,

15550
03:32:56,978 --> 03:32:59,049
we must begin this process of

15551
03:32:59,049 --> 03:33:02,019
considering, correct?

15552
03:33:02,019 --> 03:33:03,755
bike lanes, safety improvement

15553
03:33:03,755 --> 03:33:03,755


15554
03:33:03,755 --> 03:33:08,101
whether that's I think it's the

15555
03:33:08,101 --> 03:33:08,101


15556
03:33:08,101 --> 03:33:10,033
whole that's why it's here

15557
03:33:10,033 --> 03:33:11,377
because if we weren't

15558
03:33:11,377 --> 03:33:12,407
resurfacing this would never

15559
03:33:12,407 --> 03:33:15,134
come up, right?

15560
03:33:15,134 --> 03:33:15,134
so--

15561
03:33:15,134 --> 03:33:18,417
>> chase -- city engineer.

15562
03:33:18,417 --> 03:33:19,643
I apologize I don't have the

15563
03:33:19,643 --> 03:33:20,405
specific comp plan right here.

15564
03:33:20,405 --> 03:33:20,405


15565
03:33:20,405 --> 03:33:22,637
I do have the engineering desig

15566
03:33:22,637 --> 03:33:22,637
n

15567
03:33:22,637 --> 03:33:25,009
and construction manual.

15568
03:33:25,009 --> 03:33:26,153
>> forget -- I typically say

15569
03:33:26,153 --> 03:33:27,575
comp plan because comp plan

15570
03:33:27,575 --> 03:33:29,981
references a, does it not

15571
03:33:29,981 --> 03:33:31,446
reference the design and

15572
03:33:31,446 --> 03:33:35,121
construction manual, the edm?

15573
03:33:35,121 --> 03:33:36,198
roughly that's how I

15574
03:33:36,198 --> 03:33:37,373
understand -- I said comp plan

15575
03:33:37,373 --> 03:33:37,373


15576
03:33:37,373 --> 03:33:38,297
so it references.

15577
03:33:38,297 --> 03:33:39,105
somewhere there is written

15578
03:33:39,105 --> 03:33:41,767
policy that says when we go

15579
03:33:41,767 --> 03:33:44,169
forward before we go spending a

15580
03:33:44,169 --> 03:33:44,169


15581
03:33:44,169 --> 03:33:45,331
bunch of money on paving let's

15582
03:33:45,331 --> 03:33:45,331


15583
03:33:45,331 --> 03:33:47,027
look and see if the thing we

15584
03:33:47,027 --> 03:33:48,509
missed 20 years ago needs to be

15585
03:33:48,509 --> 03:33:48,509


15586
03:33:48,509 --> 03:33:51,639
done today.

15587
03:33:51,639 --> 03:33:53,886
>> yes, in general so

15588
03:33:53,886 --> 03:33:55,238
transportation element

15589
03:33:55,238 --> 03:33:55,802
underneath the comprehensive

15590
03:33:55,802 --> 03:33:57,447
plan, and then the bicycle

15591
03:33:57,447 --> 03:33:59,753
facilities underneath our edcm

15592
03:33:59,753 --> 03:33:59,753


15593
03:33:59,753 --> 03:34:01,985
references pretty close to the

15594
03:34:01,985 --> 03:34:01,985


15595
03:34:01,985 --> 03:34:03,114
same language but it's bicycle

15596
03:34:03,114 --> 03:34:03,114


15597
03:34:03,114 --> 03:34:04,717
facilities shall be provided o

15598
03:34:04,717 --> 03:34:04,717
n

15599
03:34:04,717 --> 03:34:05,658
resurfacing projects if

15600
03:34:05,658 --> 03:34:07,622
sufficient right-of-way and/or

15601
03:34:07,622 --> 03:34:07,622


15602
03:34:07,622 --> 03:34:10,889
pavement with    width exists a

15603
03:34:10,889 --> 03:34:10,889
nd

15604
03:34:10,889 --> 03:34:12,426
on all new roadways and then I

15605
03:34:12,426 --> 03:34:12,426
t

15606
03:34:12,426 --> 03:34:16,761
references nacto or bike way

15607
03:34:16,761 --> 03:34:17,471
standards, et cetera,

15608
03:34:17,471 --> 03:34:18,341
et cetera.

15609
03:34:18,341 --> 03:34:20,922
and it goes into a little bit

15610
03:34:20,922 --> 03:34:22,405
more detail from there.

15611
03:34:22,405 --> 03:34:22,844
>> thank you.

15612
03:34:22,844 --> 03:34:23,851
I wanted to clarify that's why

15613
03:34:23,851 --> 03:34:23,851


15614
03:34:23,851 --> 03:34:24,158
we're here.

15615
03:34:24,158 --> 03:34:25,172
I agree there is way more

15616
03:34:25,172 --> 03:34:25,172
conversation.

15617
03:34:25,172 --> 03:34:26,874
I'm still a little confused by

15618
03:34:26,874 --> 03:34:26,874


15619
03:34:26,874 --> 03:34:29,482
the motion often because it's

15620
03:34:29,482 --> 03:34:30,476
sometimes we're doing contracts,

15621
03:34:30,476 --> 03:34:30,476


15622
03:34:30,476 --> 03:34:33,782
sometimes we're doing, whateve

15623
03:34:33,782 --> 03:34:33,782
r,

15624
03:34:33,782 --> 03:34:34,544
90% plans.

15625
03:34:34,544 --> 03:34:35,972
what does proceed with the

15626
03:34:35,972 --> 03:34:36,978
design and permitting of

15627
03:34:36,978 --> 03:34:37,850
northeast 8th avenue

15628
03:34:37,850 --> 03:34:39,500
resurfacing project from waldo

15629
03:34:39,500 --> 03:34:39,500


15630
03:34:39,500 --> 03:34:41,698
to the western property line o

15631
03:34:41,698 --> 03:34:41,698
f

15632
03:34:41,698 --> 03:34:42,531
loftin high school with the

15633
03:34:42,531 --> 03:34:44,656
scope as recommended mean?

15634
03:34:44,656 --> 03:34:46,888
>> mayor: we're not doing it

15635
03:34:46,888 --> 03:34:46,888
anyway.

15636
03:34:46,888 --> 03:34:49,396
it's not a motion --

15637
03:34:49,396 --> 03:34:50,474
>> okay, because I want to know

15638
03:34:50,474 --> 03:34:50,474


15639
03:34:50,474 --> 03:34:51,402
the original motion.

15640
03:34:51,402 --> 03:34:53,038
that's right.

15641
03:34:53,038 --> 03:34:54,036
>> only one motion.

15642
03:34:54,036 --> 03:34:55,234
>> you're right.

15643
03:34:55,234 --> 03:34:57,002
forgive me.

15644
03:34:57,002 --> 03:34:58,258
and so the last thing I will s

15645
03:34:58,258 --> 03:34:58,258
ay

15646
03:34:58,258 --> 03:35:01,976
is like, just in the future lik

15647
03:35:01,976 --> 03:35:01,976
e

15648
03:35:01,976 --> 03:35:04,011
I said the easy cheap option I

15649
03:35:04,011 --> 03:35:04,011
s

15650
03:35:04,011 --> 03:35:05,584
literally a line of parking

15651
03:35:05,584 --> 03:35:06,922
either on the north or the sou

15652
03:35:06,922 --> 03:35:06,922
th

15653
03:35:06,922 --> 03:35:09,418
side of 8th from waldo out

15654
03:35:09,418 --> 03:35:10,384
however far.

15655
03:35:10,384 --> 03:35:13,500
which does allow churches to d

15656
03:35:13,500 --> 03:35:13,500
o

15657
03:35:13,500 --> 03:35:14,924
what they need to do with more

15658
03:35:14,924 --> 03:35:14,924


15659
03:35:14,924 --> 03:35:15,994
flexible street and would allow

15660
03:35:15,994 --> 03:35:15,994


15661
03:35:15,994 --> 03:35:17,454
potential businesses.

15662
03:35:17,454 --> 03:35:18,472
I always envision that corner

15663
03:35:18,472 --> 03:35:20,422
anywhere between 15, 17th,

15664
03:35:20,422 --> 03:35:22,763
18th as being an idea of our

15665
03:35:22,763 --> 03:35:24,966
grant program was it's mixed u

15666
03:35:24,966 --> 03:35:24,966
se

15667
03:35:24,966 --> 03:35:27,815
sort of commercial maybe theywa

15668
03:35:27,815 --> 03:35:28,312
nt, maybe they could use

15669
03:35:28,312 --> 03:35:30,248
on-street parking on side

15670
03:35:30,248 --> 03:35:31,104
streets so they can actually

15671
03:35:31,104 --> 03:35:33,228
have commercial activity becau

15672
03:35:33,228 --> 03:35:33,228
se

15673
03:35:33,228 --> 03:35:35,208
you need a couple parks spaces.

15674
03:35:35,208 --> 03:35:35,208


15675
03:35:35,208 --> 03:35:36,504
so the quick and easy cheap is

15676
03:35:36,504 --> 03:35:36,504


15677
03:35:36,504 --> 03:35:37,850
resurface, repaint your normal

15678
03:35:37,850 --> 03:35:37,850


15679
03:35:37,850 --> 03:35:39,942
lines, put in a row of parking

15680
03:35:39,942 --> 03:35:39,942
,

15681
03:35:39,942 --> 03:35:41,950
that gets you now lanes that a

15682
03:35:41,950 --> 03:35:41,950
re

15683
03:35:41,950 --> 03:35:44,926
somewhere less than 17 feet

15684
03:35:44,926 --> 03:35:44,926
wide.

15685
03:35:44,926 --> 03:35:47,122
but I want to make sure I'm

15686
03:35:47,122 --> 03:35:48,760
adamant that the reason why

15687
03:35:48,760 --> 03:35:50,286
people speed there is not

15688
03:35:50,286 --> 03:35:51,926
because of magic cut through.

15689
03:35:51,926 --> 03:35:54,428
it's because it is a 17-foot

15690
03:35:54,428 --> 03:35:56,420
wide lane cut through because

15691
03:35:56,420 --> 03:35:58,052
8th on the other side is just

15692
03:35:58,052 --> 03:35:59,574
as much of a cut through, but

15693
03:35:59,574 --> 03:36:00,804
those lanes are much narrower

15694
03:36:00,804 --> 03:36:03,364
with a median, you know curves

15695
03:36:03,364 --> 03:36:03,364


15696
03:36:03,364 --> 03:36:04,436
that were done however many

15697
03:36:04,436 --> 03:36:07,272
years ago.

15698
03:36:07,272 --> 03:36:08,839
I just, the people, the east

15699
03:36:08,839 --> 03:36:11,348
side deserves frankly they

15700
03:36:11,348 --> 03:36:13,007
deserve 32 miles an hour avera

15701
03:36:13,007 --> 03:36:13,007
ge

15702
03:36:13,007 --> 03:36:14,812
or not average but 85th

15703
03:36:14,812 --> 03:36:16,787
percentile instead of 38.

15704
03:36:16,787 --> 03:36:18,650
I think they deserve the same

15705
03:36:18,650 --> 03:36:19,522
speeds running through their

15706
03:36:19,522 --> 03:36:20,192
neighborhood because it is a

15707
03:36:20,192 --> 03:36:20,192
neighborhood.

15708
03:36:20,192 --> 03:36:23,256
it's a mixed use, you know, old

15709
03:36:23,256 --> 03:36:23,256


15710
03:36:23,256 --> 03:36:25,394
kind of older school tradition

15711
03:36:25,394 --> 03:36:25,394
al

15712
03:36:25,394 --> 03:36:26,472
neighborhood format, and it doe

15713
03:36:26,472 --> 03:36:26,472
s

15714
03:36:26,472 --> 03:36:29,160
not deserve 38 miles an hour a

15715
03:36:29,160 --> 03:36:29,160
t

15716
03:36:29,160 --> 03:36:30,702
the 85th percentile.

15717
03:36:30,702 --> 03:36:33,200
I want to   to figure out how w

15718
03:36:33,200 --> 03:36:33,200
e

15719
03:36:33,200 --> 03:36:35,400
can get it down to 32.

15720
03:36:35,400 --> 03:36:35,740
thank you.

15721
03:36:35,740 --> 03:36:36,698
>> mayor: thank you,

15722
03:36:36,698 --> 03:36:37,236
commissioner willits.

15723
03:36:37,236 --> 03:36:38,506
thank    .

15724
03:36:38,506 --> 03:36:40,484
commissioner chestnut.

15725
03:36:40,484 --> 03:36:41,997
>> commissioner willits, I think

15726
03:36:41,997 --> 03:36:41,997


15727
03:36:41,997 --> 03:36:43,511
the key word you keep saying

15728
03:36:43,511 --> 03:36:44,555
regarding the comp plan is

15729
03:36:44,555 --> 03:36:44,555
consideration.

15730
03:36:44,555 --> 03:36:49,848
consideration.  Not

15731
03:36:49,848 --> 03:36:50,690
not a mandate to do anything.  It

15732
03:36:50,690 --> 03:36:53,782
it's just to consider it.

15733
03:36:53,782 --> 03:36:54,556
and that is the key word.

15734
03:36:54,556 --> 03:36:56,093
thank you.

15735
03:36:56,093 --> 03:36:56,628
>> mayor: thank you,

15736
03:36:56,628 --> 03:36:56,628
commissioner.

15737
03:36:56,628 --> 03:37:02,332
commissioner duncan-walker.

15738
03:37:02,332 --> 03:37:04,007
>> thank you, mr. Mayor.

15739
03:37:04,007 --> 03:37:05,572
what I wanted to say has alrea

15740
03:37:05,572 --> 03:37:05,572
dy

15741
03:37:05,572 --> 03:37:05,998
been said.

15742
03:37:05,998 --> 03:37:06,903
hopefully this motion will

15743
03:37:06,903 --> 03:37:07,611
carry, and hopefully we are

15744
03:37:07,611 --> 03:37:09,665
sending the message to the

15745
03:37:09,665 --> 03:37:11,004
people that we won't miss these

15746
03:37:11,004 --> 03:37:11,004


15747
03:37:11,004 --> 03:37:12,392
critical steps to pull them in

15748
03:37:12,392 --> 03:37:12,392
to

15749
03:37:12,392 --> 03:37:14,340
the process in a meaningful way

15750
03:37:14,340 --> 03:37:14,340


15751
03:37:14,340 --> 03:37:15,746
on something that is so critical

15752
03:37:15,746 --> 03:37:15,746


15753
03:37:15,746 --> 03:37:17,177
in the future.

15754
03:37:17,177 --> 03:37:17,610
thank you.

15755
03:37:17,610 --> 03:37:18,145
>> mayor: thank you,

15756
03:37:18,145 --> 03:37:20,178
commissioner dunk

15757
03:37:20,178 --> 03:37:20,178
duncan-walker.

15758
03:37:20,178 --> 03:37:21,764
mr. Manager.

15759
03:37:21,764 --> 03:37:22,348
>> thank you, mr. Mayor.

15760
03:37:22,348 --> 03:37:24,250
I do have the comp plan policie

15761
03:37:24,250 --> 03:37:24,250
s

15762
03:37:24,250 --> 03:37:28,092
if you all want to hear them.

15763
03:37:28,092 --> 03:37:29,540
so is that a yes or --

15764
03:37:29,540 --> 03:37:29,540
[laughter]

15765
03:37:29,540 --> 03:37:35,033
I'm getting mixed like faces.  Al

15766
03:37:35,033 --> 03:37:35,900
all right.

15767
03:37:35,900 --> 03:37:37,429
>> mayor: thank you.

15768
03:37:37,429 --> 03:37:37,868
commissioner chestnut?

15769
03:37:37,868 --> 03:37:39,588
>> yeah, again, I just want to

15770
03:37:39,588 --> 03:37:39,588


15771
03:37:39,588 --> 03:37:41,710
be sure that the key word in the

15772
03:37:41,710 --> 03:37:41,710


15773
03:37:41,710 --> 03:37:46,679
comp plan is consider.

15774
03:37:46,679 --> 03:37:47,219
>> it is not.

15775
03:37:47,219 --> 03:37:48,508
>> it is not?

15776
03:37:48,508 --> 03:37:49,509
what is it then?

15777
03:37:49,509 --> 03:37:52,220
>> yeah, there's three policies

15778
03:37:52,220 --> 03:37:52,220


15779
03:37:52,220 --> 03:37:55,181
in your transportation element

15780
03:37:55,181 --> 03:37:55,181
.

15781
03:37:55,181 --> 03:38:00,119
the first is policy 3.1.5 which

15782
03:38:00,119 --> 03:38:00,119


15783
03:38:00,119 --> 03:38:02,682
says essentially street

15784
03:38:02,682 --> 03:38:05,571
modifications including

15785
03:38:05,571 --> 03:38:06,961
restriping or resurfacing shall

15786
03:38:06,961 --> 03:38:06,961


15787
03:38:06,961 --> 03:38:08,525
not increase the difficulty of

15788
03:38:08,525 --> 03:38:08,525


15789
03:38:08,525 --> 03:38:10,768
bike transit or pedestrian

15790
03:38:10,768 --> 03:38:12,200
travel such changes shall

15791
03:38:12,200 --> 03:38:13,726
include safety features for

15792
03:38:13,726 --> 03:38:15,764
bicycle, transit and pedestrians

15793
03:38:15,764 --> 03:38:15,764


15794
03:38:15,764 --> 03:38:17,802
to offset any negative impact

15795
03:38:17,802 --> 03:38:20,441
and modification might otherwise

15796
03:38:20,441 --> 03:38:20,441


15797
03:38:20,441 --> 03:38:22,574
create then policy 4.1.7 says

15798
03:38:22,574 --> 03:38:24,779
new cluks, reconstruction,

15799
03:38:24,779 --> 03:38:25,691
and -- construction,

15800
03:38:25,691 --> 03:38:26,554
reconstruction, and resurfacing

15801
03:38:26,554 --> 03:38:26,554


15802
03:38:26,554 --> 03:38:27,976
of arterials and collectors

15803
03:38:27,976 --> 03:38:29,655
shall be designed using complet

15804
03:38:29,655 --> 03:38:29,655
e

15805
03:38:29,655 --> 03:38:30,886
streets and context sensitive

15806
03:38:30,886 --> 03:38:33,256
street design principles.

15807
03:38:33,256 --> 03:38:35,854
and then policy 6.1.4 says the

15808
03:38:35,854 --> 03:38:35,854


15809
03:38:35,854 --> 03:38:37,188
city shall use street

15810
03:38:37,188 --> 03:38:39,625
resurfacing projects as an

15811
03:38:39,625 --> 03:38:40,832
opportunity to install or

15812
03:38:40,832 --> 03:38:43,135
enhance sidewalks, bike lanes,

15813
03:38:43,135 --> 03:38:43,135


15814
03:38:43,135 --> 03:38:45,038
raised medians, brick or brick

15815
03:38:45,038 --> 03:38:45,038


15816
03:38:45,038 --> 03:38:46,461
and printed paver or painted

15817
03:38:46,461 --> 03:38:48,567
croswalks where feasible if not

15818
03:38:48,567 --> 03:38:48,567


15819
03:38:48,567 --> 03:38:50,573
a city project the city shall

15820
03:38:50,573 --> 03:38:53,114
recommend to the state or county

15821
03:38:53,114 --> 03:38:53,114


15822
03:38:53,114 --> 03:38:55,075
make such enhancements.

15823
03:38:55,075 --> 03:38:55,743
>> mayor: all right.

15824
03:38:55,743 --> 03:38:58,737
thank you, mr. Manager.

15825
03:38:58,737 --> 03:39:01,349
commissioner book.

15826
03:39:01,349 --> 03:39:02,643
>> thank you, mr. Mayor.

15827
03:39:02,643 --> 03:39:03,549
coincidentally when we did the

15828
03:39:03,549 --> 03:39:03,549


15829
03:39:03,549 --> 03:39:04,447
comp plan and we needed to get

15830
03:39:04,447 --> 03:39:04,447


15831
03:39:04,447 --> 03:39:05,223
out information, we had a

15832
03:39:05,223 --> 03:39:05,223
flier.

15833
03:39:05,223 --> 03:39:07,433
we had a qr code.

15834
03:39:07,433 --> 03:39:09,601
we had a couple of forums that

15835
03:39:09,601 --> 03:39:09,601


15836
03:39:09,601 --> 03:39:10,693
were hosted by two of the

15837
03:39:10,693 --> 03:39:12,927
commissioners on the dais here.

15838
03:39:12,927 --> 03:39:12,927


15839
03:39:12,927 --> 03:39:14,721
and we got tremendous amounts o

15840
03:39:14,721 --> 03:39:14,721
f

15841
03:39:14,721 --> 03:39:16,597
feedback so it's easy to do and

15842
03:39:16,597 --> 03:39:16,597


15843
03:39:16,597 --> 03:39:18,129
in this northeast 8th avenue

15844
03:39:18,129 --> 03:39:19,769
corridor no matter what segment,

15845
03:39:19,769 --> 03:39:19,769


15846
03:39:19,769 --> 03:39:21,999
you're talking about, eight

15847
03:39:21,999 --> 03:39:23,539
churches, was we said, I learn

15848
03:39:23,539 --> 03:39:23,539
ed

15849
03:39:23,539 --> 03:39:24,735
it was even more than I thought

15850
03:39:24,735 --> 03:39:24,735
,

15851
03:39:24,735 --> 03:39:26,075
but you got the school board.

15852
03:39:26,075 --> 03:39:28,417
we asked them to come for us f

15853
03:39:28,417 --> 03:39:28,417
or

15854
03:39:28,417 --> 03:39:29,515
listen we sent out information

15855
03:39:29,515 --> 03:39:29,515


15856
03:39:29,515 --> 03:39:30,388
to the school board and say it'

15857
03:39:30,388 --> 03:39:30,388
s

15858
03:39:30,388 --> 03:39:32,281
going to impact them, you got a

15859
03:39:32,281 --> 03:39:32,281


15860
03:39:32,281 --> 03:39:34,679
number of residents on that

15861
03:39:34,679 --> 03:39:34,679
thing.

15862
03:39:34,679 --> 03:39:35,429
you have a number of

15863
03:39:35,429 --> 03:39:35,429
businesses.

15864
03:39:35,429 --> 03:39:37,487
you have the high aff right

15865
03:39:37,487 --> 03:39:37,487
there.

15866
03:39:37,487 --> 03:39:40,333
so there is plenty of

15867
03:39:40,333 --> 03:39:41,421
opportunity for people to come

15868
03:39:41,421 --> 03:39:41,421


15869
03:39:41,421 --> 03:39:43,760
to any forum hosted by anyone

15870
03:39:43,760 --> 03:39:46,023
here through the city manager's

15871
03:39:46,023 --> 03:39:46,023


15872
03:39:46,023 --> 03:39:48,459
office and when we -- and we a

15873
03:39:48,459 --> 03:39:48,459


15874
03:39:48,459 --> 03:39:50,325
large multifamily housing

15875
03:39:50,325 --> 03:39:51,287
complex right there in northea

15876
03:39:51,287 --> 03:39:51,287
st

15877
03:39:51,287 --> 03:39:53,899
8th avenue and 17th street.

15878
03:39:53,899 --> 03:39:54,731
so I think we're going to get

15879
03:39:54,731 --> 03:39:55,931
plenty of feedback, and we'll

15880
03:39:55,931 --> 03:39:57,475
all be better for it.

15881
03:39:57,475 --> 03:40:00,823
whatever comes, if   out, if it

15882
03:40:00,823 --> 03:40:00,823
's

15883
03:40:00,823 --> 03:40:01,975
merely resurfacing down the

15884
03:40:01,975 --> 03:40:03,213
road, that's fine, or if it's

15885
03:40:03,213 --> 03:40:05,013
resurfacing plus enhancements,

15886
03:40:05,013 --> 03:40:05,013


15887
03:40:05,013 --> 03:40:06,016
well we'll know that we have

15888
03:40:06,016 --> 03:40:07,851
community backing to do it.

15889
03:40:07,851 --> 03:40:09,163
so thank you.

15890
03:40:09,163 --> 03:40:09,751
I appreciate the fact that

15891
03:40:09,751 --> 03:40:11,089
you're going to host a forum,

15892
03:40:11,089 --> 03:40:13,589
and if it comes time to go and

15893
03:40:13,589 --> 03:40:13,589


15894
03:40:13,589 --> 03:40:15,141
maybe walk or distribute some

15895
03:40:15,141 --> 03:40:16,398
information, I'd be happy to

15896
03:40:16,398 --> 03:40:18,491
assist in a public way.

15897
03:40:18,491 --> 03:40:19,363
thank you.

15898
03:40:19,363 --> 03:40:19,909
>> mayor: thank you,

15899
03:40:19,909 --> 03:40:20,340
commissioner book.

15900
03:40:20,340 --> 03:40:22,031
commissioner duncan-walker.

15901
03:40:22,031 --> 03:40:22,795
>> thank you, mr. Book.

15902
03:40:22,795 --> 03:40:23,463
thank you, mr. Mayor.

15903
03:40:23,463 --> 03:40:25,069
I did want to just mention tha

15904
03:40:25,069 --> 03:40:25,069
t

15905
03:40:25,069 --> 03:40:27,271
as a part of this discussion,

15906
03:40:27,271 --> 03:40:29,005
the comp plan will be

15907
03:40:29,005 --> 03:40:29,005
discussed.

15908
03:40:29,005 --> 03:40:31,516
because we're still within the

15909
03:40:31,516 --> 03:40:31,516


15910
03:40:31,516 --> 03:40:33,275
time frame where any necessary

15911
03:40:33,275 --> 03:40:33,275


15912
03:40:33,275 --> 03:40:35,761
tweaks can be made.

15913
03:40:35,761 --> 03:40:36,026
thank you.

15914
03:40:36,026 --> 03:40:36,559
>> mayor: thank you,

15915
03:40:36,559 --> 03:40:38,143
commissioner duncan-walker.

15916
03:40:38,143 --> 03:40:40,549
so the short answer to the thi

15917
03:40:40,549 --> 03:40:40,549
ng

15918
03:40:40,549 --> 03:40:42,385
that I heard several people ask

15919
03:40:42,385 --> 03:40:42,385


15920
03:40:42,385 --> 03:40:46,223
as to why now is because we're

15921
03:40:46,223 --> 03:40:46,223


15922
03:40:46,223 --> 03:40:48,657
at a point where we need to

15923
03:40:48,657 --> 03:40:49,619
spend money on that road.

15924
03:40:49,619 --> 03:40:50,525
on that stretch of road.

15925
03:40:50,525 --> 03:40:51,859
so if we're going to spend it

15926
03:40:51,859 --> 03:40:53,257
money, let's have a conversatio

15927
03:40:53,257 --> 03:40:53,257
n

15928
03:40:53,257 --> 03:40:54,529
about exactly what it ought to

15929
03:40:54,529 --> 03:40:54,529


15930
03:40:54,529 --> 03:40:54,529
be.

15931
03:40:54,529 --> 03:41:00,799
a place we need to get to as a

15932
03:41:00,799 --> 03:41:00,799


15933
03:41:00,799 --> 03:41:03,435
city is when we say, hey, what

15934
03:41:03,435 --> 03:41:03,435


15935
03:41:03,435 --> 03:41:07,524
should we do, is not have folks

15936
03:41:07,524 --> 03:41:07,524


15937
03:41:07,524 --> 03:41:10,047
understand -- it's a catch-22.

15938
03:41:10,047 --> 03:41:10,047


15939
03:41:10,047 --> 03:41:12,401
if folks understand it as we

15940
03:41:12,401 --> 03:41:14,723
need to do a thing, here's wha

15941
03:41:14,723 --> 03:41:14,723
t

15942
03:41:14,723 --> 03:41:16,980
we're going to do out front,

15943
03:41:16,980 --> 03:41:18,012
then of course people push back

15944
03:41:18,012 --> 03:41:18,012


15945
03:41:18,012 --> 03:41:19,417
on that.

15946
03:41:19,417 --> 03:41:22,139
but usually what it is is when

15947
03:41:22,139 --> 03:41:22,139


15948
03:41:22,139 --> 03:41:23,391
we put something out, is here'

15949
03:41:23,391 --> 03:41:23,391
s

15950
03:41:23,391 --> 03:41:25,059
a discussion item.

15951
03:41:25,059 --> 03:41:26,469
here's something to get a

15952
03:41:26,469 --> 03:41:27,539
conversation started.

15953
03:41:27,539 --> 03:41:30,695
because if we just have a, a

15954
03:41:30,695 --> 03:41:31,772
meeting and say what should we

15955
03:41:31,772 --> 03:41:31,772


15956
03:41:31,772 --> 03:41:34,899
do, there will be every from

15957
03:41:34,899 --> 03:41:37,203
well, we ought to put an

15958
03:41:37,203 --> 03:41:41,179
interstate there to we shouldn

15959
03:41:41,179 --> 03:41:41,179
't

15960
03:41:41,179 --> 03:41:41,838
do anything.

15961
03:41:41,838 --> 03:41:43,513
so the idea is you got to put

15962
03:41:43,513 --> 03:41:44,118
something on the table to have

15963
03:41:44,118 --> 03:41:44,251
a

15964
03:41:44,251 --> 03:41:44,645
discussion about.

15965
03:41:44,645 --> 03:41:47,813
if you don't, experience in thi

15966
03:41:47,813 --> 03:41:47,813
s

15967
03:41:47,813 --> 03:41:49,237
building has taught me you don

15968
03:41:49,237 --> 03:41:49,237
't

15969
03:41:49,237 --> 03:41:50,721
get anywhere at all and then y

15970
03:41:50,721 --> 03:41:50,721
ou

15971
03:41:50,721 --> 03:41:52,060
get ten years down the road and

15972
03:41:52,060 --> 03:41:52,060


15973
03:41:52,060 --> 03:41:53,592
somebody says how come you nev

15974
03:41:53,592 --> 03:41:53,592
er

15975
03:41:53,592 --> 03:41:55,492
spent any money on this.

15976
03:41:55,492 --> 03:41:57,351
we can't be there either.

15977
03:41:57,351 --> 03:41:59,225
so when we get to this point,

15978
03:41:59,225 --> 03:42:03,059
this is the opportunity to

15979
03:42:03,059 --> 03:42:04,702
figure out what it is that oug

15980
03:42:04,702 --> 03:42:04,702
ht

15981
03:42:04,702 --> 03:42:07,595
to be done, and that vote is n

15982
03:42:07,595 --> 03:42:07,595
ot

15983
03:42:07,595 --> 03:42:07,595
today.

15984
03:42:07,595 --> 03:42:10,233
it never was supposed to be par

15985
03:42:10,233 --> 03:42:10,233
t

15986
03:42:10,233 --> 03:42:11,545
of today.

15987
03:42:11,545 --> 03:42:13,141
we need to have more opportunity

15988
03:42:13,141 --> 03:42:13,141


15989
03:42:13,141 --> 03:42:15,641
for everybody to weigh in that

15990
03:42:15,641 --> 03:42:15,641


15991
03:42:15,641 --> 03:42:17,417
uses the road or that lives on

15992
03:42:17,417 --> 03:42:17,417


15993
03:42:17,417 --> 03:42:19,480
the road for what it ought to

15994
03:42:19,480 --> 03:42:19,480
be.

15995
03:42:19,480 --> 03:42:21,283
that's where we are.

15996
03:42:21,283 --> 03:42:23,053
and that's why now.

15997
03:42:23,053 --> 03:42:26,557
that's the answer to why now.

15998
03:42:26,557 --> 03:42:29,157
yeah, and I know we're a coupl

15999
03:42:29,157 --> 03:42:29,157
e

16000
03:42:29,157 --> 03:42:30,557
folks are going with it.

16001
03:42:30,557 --> 03:42:32,393
it's always election year.

16002
03:42:32,393 --> 03:42:34,599
it's always election year so I

16003
03:42:34,599 --> 03:42:34,599
t

16004
03:42:34,599 --> 03:42:37,563
ain't that.

16005
03:42:37,563 --> 03:42:38,696
this is the opportunity to

16006
03:42:38,696 --> 03:42:40,699
figure out what's, what we do

16007
03:42:40,699 --> 03:42:42,097
because we're going to spend

16008
03:42:42,097 --> 03:42:42,635
some money.

16009
03:42:42,635 --> 03:42:43,573
we're fought going to come back

16010
03:42:43,573 --> 03:42:44,685
d spend the money again

16011
03:42:44,685 --> 03:42:44,685
later.

16012
03:42:44,685 --> 03:42:47,231
we need to figure out what the

16013
03:42:47,231 --> 03:42:47,231


16014
03:42:47,231 --> 03:42:48,573
right way to do it now is.

16015
03:42:48,573 --> 03:42:50,720
that's why now.

16016
03:42:50,720 --> 03:42:50,995
all right.

16017
03:42:50,995 --> 03:42:51,728
so we have a motion on the

16018
03:42:51,728 --> 03:42:53,309
table, all in favor, please say

16019
03:42:53,309 --> 03:42:53,309


16020
03:42:53,309 --> 03:42:53,309
aye.

16021
03:42:53,309 --> 03:42:55,685
any opposed?

16022
03:42:55,685 --> 03:42:56,261
all right that passes

16023
03:42:56,261 --> 03:42:56,261
unanimously.

16024
03:42:56,261 --> 03:42:59,184
madam clerk.

16025
03:42:59,184 --> 03:43:02,755
>> mr. Mayor, pause just a

16026
03:43:02,755 --> 03:43:02,755
moment.

16027
03:43:02,755 --> 03:43:13,269
we have 2026-171, appointments

16028
03:43:13,269 --> 03:43:13,269


16029
03:43:13,269 --> 03:43:14,461
to the city plan board and the

16030
03:43:14,461 --> 03:43:14,461


16031
03:43:14,461 --> 03:43:15,567
gainesville human rights board

16032
03:43:15,567 --> 03:43:15,567


16033
03:43:15,567 --> 03:43:17,061
with recommendation the city

16034
03:43:17,061 --> 03:43:18,675
commission review and discuss

16035
03:43:18,675 --> 03:43:20,608
the applications received for

16036
03:43:20,608 --> 03:43:21,306
the appointments to the city

16037
03:43:21,306 --> 03:43:23,085
plan board and gainesville hum

16038
03:43:23,085 --> 03:43:23,085
an

16039
03:43:23,085 --> 03:43:24,787
rights board and take action

16040
03:43:24,787 --> 03:43:28,820
deemed necessary.

16041
03:43:28,820 --> 03:43:30,130
and mr. Mayor I did want to let

16042
03:43:30,130 --> 03:43:30,130


16043
03:43:30,130 --> 03:43:35,657
you know one of the application

16044
03:43:35,657 --> 03:43:35,657
s

16045
03:43:35,657 --> 03:43:36,813
for the city plan board has bee

16046
03:43:36,813 --> 03:43:36,813
n

16047
03:43:36,813 --> 03:43:37,863
updated and printed and you wil

16048
03:43:37,863 --> 03:43:37,863
l

16049
03:43:37,863 --> 03:43:39,159
find it in the file folders in

16050
03:43:39,159 --> 03:43:39,159


16051
03:43:39,159 --> 03:43:40,108
front of you.

16052
03:43:40,108 --> 03:43:41,340
essentially there was a questio

16053
03:43:41,340 --> 03:43:41,340
n

16054
03:43:41,340 --> 03:43:43,373
about a financial disclosure,

16055
03:43:43,373 --> 03:43:45,803
and that answer was changed fro

16056
03:43:45,803 --> 03:43:45,803
m

16057
03:43:45,803 --> 03:43:48,370
no to yes.

16058
03:43:48,370 --> 03:43:49,219
>> mayor: very good, thank you

16059
03:43:49,219 --> 03:43:49,219
,

16060
03:43:49,219 --> 03:43:50,439
and before we move any farther

16061
03:43:50,439 --> 03:43:50,439


16062
03:43:50,439 --> 03:43:52,013
forward I want to remind

16063
03:43:52,013 --> 03:43:52,839
everyone here for the land use

16064
03:43:52,839 --> 03:43:52,839


16065
03:43:52,839 --> 03:43:54,040
and zoning items that we've

16066
03:43:54,040 --> 03:43:55,335
pushed those forward to the end

16067
03:43:55,335 --> 03:43:55,335


16068
03:43:55,335 --> 03:43:57,446
of the meeting.

16069
03:43:57,446 --> 03:43:59,448
so we're not going to do that

16070
03:43:59,448 --> 03:44:01,224
before dinner.

16071
03:44:01,224 --> 03:44:01,224
okay.

16072
03:44:01,224 --> 03:44:10,167
all right.

16073
03:44:10,167 --> 03:44:11,355
so we have two folks here for

16074
03:44:11,355 --> 03:44:12,497
the city plan board

16075
03:44:12,497 --> 03:44:12,497
appointment.

16076
03:44:12,497 --> 03:44:14,240
would y'all like to speak?

16077
03:44:14,240 --> 03:44:14,696
all right.

16078
03:44:14,696 --> 03:44:16,403
so I'm going to ask -- to go

16079
03:44:16,403 --> 03:44:18,607
first because we'll do the

16080
03:44:18,607 --> 03:44:18,607
alphabetically.

16081
03:44:18,607 --> 03:44:18,607
welcome.

16082
03:44:18,607 --> 03:44:25,512
>> thank you.

16083
03:44:25,512 --> 03:44:27,475
and thank you, mr. Mayor and

16084
03:44:27,475 --> 03:44:27,475
commissioners.

16085
03:44:27,475 --> 03:44:38,153
my name is jayne moras ki.

16086
03:44:38,153 --> 03:44:39,354
prior to my time in gainesville

16087
03:44:39,354 --> 03:44:39,354


16088
03:44:39,354 --> 03:44:40,623
I complete admasters in urban

16089
03:44:40,623 --> 03:44:42,885
and regional planning where I

16090
03:44:42,885 --> 03:44:44,422
did comp plan review for iowa

16091
03:44:44,422 --> 03:44:45,797
city another university town.

16092
03:44:45,797 --> 03:44:47,509
dollar I was a commercial --

16093
03:44:47,509 --> 03:44:48,423
there was a commercial real

16094
03:44:48,423 --> 03:44:49,867
estate appraiser, actually the

16095
03:44:49,867 --> 03:44:49,867


16096
03:44:49,867 --> 03:44:50,793
only commercial real estate

16097
03:44:50,793 --> 03:44:52,333
appraiser that was a woman in

16098
03:44:52,333 --> 03:44:52,985
the state of iowa for men a

16099
03:44:52,985 --> 03:44:52,985
years.

16100
03:44:52,985 --> 03:44:54,501
>> mayor: in the whole state?

16101
03:44:54,501 --> 03:44:55,498
>> in the whole state, yeah.

16102
03:44:55,498 --> 03:44:56,039
at the time.

16103
03:44:56,039 --> 03:44:58,537
it's changed since then.

16104
03:44:58,537 --> 03:45:00,070
but my specialty was low-income

16105
03:45:00,070 --> 03:45:00,070


16106
03:45:00,070 --> 03:45:02,442
housing tax credits.

16107
03:45:02,442 --> 03:45:04,713
since then moving here, I know

16108
03:45:04,713 --> 03:45:04,713


16109
03:45:04,713 --> 03:45:07,720
many of you in my work as the

16110
03:45:07,720 --> 03:45:08,959
director of the homeless shelt

16111
03:45:08,959 --> 03:45:08,959
er

16112
03:45:08,959 --> 03:45:10,593
called family promise of

16113
03:45:10,593 --> 03:45:10,593
gainesville.

16114
03:45:10,593 --> 03:45:16,765
I've worked in nonprofits for

16115
03:45:16,765 --> 03:45:17,963
the last two decades here.

16116
03:45:17,963 --> 03:45:20,851
my specialty was housing and n

16117
03:45:20,851 --> 03:45:20,851
ow

16118
03:45:20,851 --> 03:45:21,769
it's education as well.

16119
03:45:21,769 --> 03:45:25,698
it took a -- gainesville is my

16120
03:45:25,698 --> 03:45:25,698


16121
03:45:25,698 --> 03:45:25,698
home.

16122
03:45:25,698 --> 03:45:26,903
my children grew up here.

16123
03:45:26,903 --> 03:45:29,027
went to gainesville high

16124
03:45:29,027 --> 03:45:29,027
school.

16125
03:45:29,027 --> 03:45:30,436
went to glen springs

16126
03:45:30,436 --> 03:45:30,436
elementary.

16127
03:45:30,436 --> 03:45:35,907
and I want to be part of the

16128
03:45:35,907 --> 03:45:36,873
planning board because one, a

16129
03:45:36,873 --> 03:45:37,939
friend asked me to do this

16130
03:45:37,939 --> 03:45:38,849
because they knew of my

16131
03:45:38,849 --> 03:45:40,681
experience in it, but because

16132
03:45:40,681 --> 03:45:41,513
this is my home.

16133
03:45:41,513 --> 03:45:45,797
it will continue to be my home

16134
03:45:45,797 --> 03:45:45,797


16135
03:45:45,797 --> 03:45:48,256
and it's where my family has

16136
03:45:48,256 --> 03:45:49,045
chosen to be.

16137
03:45:49,045 --> 03:45:49,703
I'm happy to answer any

16138
03:45:49,703 --> 03:45:50,509
questions you have about my

16139
03:45:50,509 --> 03:45:52,324
background or experience.

16140
03:45:52,324 --> 03:45:55,100
and I believe that the sum tot

16141
03:45:55,100 --> 03:45:55,100
al

16142
03:45:55,100 --> 03:45:58,167
of that experience would make m

16143
03:45:58,167 --> 03:45:58,167
e

16144
03:45:58,167 --> 03:45:59,558
a good part of the planning

16145
03:45:59,558 --> 03:45:59,558
board.

16146
03:45:59,558 --> 03:46:00,539
thank you.

16147
03:46:00,539 --> 03:46:00,967
>> mayor: very good.

16148
03:46:00,967 --> 03:46:03,169
thank you.

16149
03:46:03,169 --> 03:46:11,019
mr. Willis.

16150
03:46:11,019 --> 03:46:11,941
>> good afternoon, it's a

16151
03:46:11,941 --> 03:46:13,245
pleasure to be here today.

16152
03:46:13,245 --> 03:46:15,081
little bit about me is I'm

16153
03:46:15,081 --> 03:46:17,157
currently civil engineering

16154
03:46:17,157 --> 03:46:18,489
student at university of

16155
03:46:18,489 --> 03:46:18,489
florida.

16156
03:46:18,489 --> 03:46:20,123
I'm a senior.

16157
03:46:20,123 --> 03:46:22,303
I currently have a year left,

16158
03:46:22,303 --> 03:46:24,071
and I really discovered a

16159
03:46:24,071 --> 03:46:25,223
passion for sustainable

16160
03:46:25,223 --> 03:46:26,759
development which is why I

16161
03:46:26,759 --> 03:46:27,793
applied to be on the city

16162
03:46:27,793 --> 03:46:30,295
planning board after the lovel

16163
03:46:30,295 --> 03:46:30,295
y

16164
03:46:30,295 --> 03:46:32,296
city clerk came to our class a

16165
03:46:32,296 --> 03:46:32,296
nd

16166
03:46:32,296 --> 03:46:33,362
made me aware that it was an

16167
03:46:33,362 --> 03:46:33,362
opportunity.

16168
03:46:33,362 --> 03:46:36,255
and which I believe mayor ward

16169
03:46:36,255 --> 03:46:36,255


16170
03:46:36,255 --> 03:46:37,265
you will be speaking at in a

16171
03:46:37,265 --> 03:46:38,143
couple weeks.

16172
03:46:38,143 --> 03:46:40,745
so I'm excited for that.

16173
03:46:40,745 --> 03:46:43,386
but yes, I want to serve my

16174
03:46:43,386 --> 03:46:43,386
community.

16175
03:46:43,386 --> 03:46:44,913
I've only been in gainesville

16176
03:46:44,913 --> 03:46:48,015
since august, but I really gro

16177
03:46:48,015 --> 03:46:48,015
wn

16178
03:46:48,015 --> 03:46:48,379
to love it.

16179
03:46:48,379 --> 03:46:50,680
been a lifelong gator fan so I

16180
03:46:50,680 --> 03:46:50,680


16181
03:46:50,680 --> 03:46:51,799
hope to stay here for a long

16182
03:46:51,799 --> 03:46:54,021
period of time, and I hope wit

16183
03:46:54,021 --> 03:46:54,021
h

16184
03:46:54,021 --> 03:46:57,286
this opportunity I can initiat

16185
03:46:57,286 --> 03:46:57,286
e

16186
03:46:57,286 --> 03:46:58,321
some resilience and

16187
03:46:58,321 --> 03:47:01,199
sustainable -- sustainability I

16188
03:47:01,199 --> 03:47:01,199
n

16189
03:47:01,199 --> 03:47:03,711
this community, and serve as a

16190
03:47:03,711 --> 03:47:03,711


16191
03:47:03,711 --> 03:47:05,196
lifelong commitment to the

16192
03:47:05,196 --> 03:47:05,196
people.

16193
03:47:05,196 --> 03:47:08,143
and as we've seen today, it is

16194
03:47:08,143 --> 03:47:08,143


16195
03:47:08,143 --> 03:47:09,407
important to listen to the

16196
03:47:09,407 --> 03:47:11,235
people, so I hope to bring tha

16197
03:47:11,235 --> 03:47:11,235
t

16198
03:47:11,235 --> 03:47:11,967
along too.

16199
03:47:11,967 --> 03:47:12,577
thank you.

16200
03:47:12,577 --> 03:47:13,069
>> mayor: very good.

16201
03:47:13,069 --> 03:47:14,578
thank you.

16202
03:47:14,578 --> 03:47:16,307
all right.

16203
03:47:16,307 --> 03:47:17,839
commissioner willits.

16204
03:47:17,839 --> 03:47:18,605
>> thank you, mr. Mayor.

16205
03:47:18,605 --> 03:47:19,943
a quick question.

16206
03:47:19,943 --> 03:47:22,427
so for, for the clerk first.

16207
03:47:22,427 --> 03:47:25,795
for ms. Moraski application I

16208
03:47:25,795 --> 03:47:27,625
don't see the, the address has

16209
03:47:27,625 --> 03:47:27,625


16210
03:47:27,625 --> 03:47:28,671
been blacked out.

16211
03:47:28,671 --> 03:47:29,557
I know there are lots of

16212
03:47:29,557 --> 03:47:30,489
potential reasons why, but I

16213
03:47:30,489 --> 03:47:32,327
just want to really confirm tha

16214
03:47:32,327 --> 03:47:32,327
t

16215
03:47:32,327 --> 03:47:35,831
ms. Moraski lives inside the

16216
03:47:35,831 --> 03:47:37,216
incorporated gainesville city

16217
03:47:37,216 --> 03:47:37,216
limits.

16218
03:47:37,216 --> 03:47:37,709
>> yes.

16219
03:47:37,709 --> 03:47:38,389
I have the map if you would like

16220
03:47:38,389 --> 03:47:38,389


16221
03:47:38,389 --> 03:47:40,179
to see.

16222
03:47:40,179 --> 03:47:41,433
>> I'm a map person.

16223
03:47:41,433 --> 03:47:42,381
you already knew where I was

16224
03:47:42,381 --> 03:47:42,381
going.

16225
03:47:42,381 --> 03:47:43,733
thank you.

16226
03:47:43,733 --> 03:47:45,507
and then so then just outside

16227
03:47:45,507 --> 03:47:47,527
this I would make a pitch if n

16228
03:47:47,527 --> 03:47:47,527
ot

16229
03:47:47,527 --> 03:47:49,067
in this vote but into the futur

16230
03:47:49,067 --> 03:47:49,067
e

16231
03:47:49,067 --> 03:47:50,111
for all of our boards but

16232
03:47:50,111 --> 03:47:51,321
particularly even this one

16233
03:47:51,321 --> 03:47:53,659
board, we are a community of 6

16234
03:47:53,659 --> 03:47:53,659
0%

16235
03:47:53,659 --> 03:47:53,659
renters.

16236
03:47:53,659 --> 03:47:55,615
I don't know that we have any

16237
03:47:55,615 --> 03:47:56,725
renters on the city plan board

16238
03:47:56,725 --> 03:47:56,725


16239
03:47:56,725 --> 03:47:58,115
right now.

16240
03:47:58,115 --> 03:48:02,264
I would have to double check.

16241
03:48:02,264 --> 03:48:03,796
but mr. Willis lives in my

16242
03:48:03,796 --> 03:48:05,230
district and I'm a little

16243
03:48:05,230 --> 03:48:06,062
partial to my district because

16244
03:48:06,062 --> 03:48:06,062


16245
03:48:06,062 --> 03:48:07,828
my district is 90% multifamily

16246
03:48:07,828 --> 03:48:07,828
,

16247
03:48:07,828 --> 03:48:11,297
and we're, and in a city that'

16248
03:48:11,297 --> 03:48:11,297
s

16249
03:48:11,297 --> 03:48:12,569
60% renters, renters and

16250
03:48:12,569 --> 03:48:14,002
multifamily are part of whatwe

16251
03:48:14,002 --> 03:48:14,002


16252
03:48:14,002 --> 03:48:15,249
have to plan for, what we were

16253
03:48:15,249 --> 03:48:15,249


16254
03:48:15,249 --> 03:48:16,558
gifted from the county in the

16255
03:48:16,558 --> 03:48:17,944
case of southwest gainesville,

16256
03:48:17,944 --> 03:48:17,944


16257
03:48:17,944 --> 03:48:18,969
moving forward so I actually

16258
03:48:18,969 --> 03:48:20,542
want to make a pitch that we

16259
03:48:20,542 --> 03:48:21,662
need more diversity on some of

16260
03:48:21,662 --> 03:48:21,662


16261
03:48:21,662 --> 03:48:23,876
our boards, and that includes

16262
03:48:23,876 --> 03:48:25,115
income, age, where you live in

16263
03:48:25,115 --> 03:48:25,115


16264
03:48:25,115 --> 03:48:27,682
this city, and whether you are

16265
03:48:27,682 --> 03:48:27,682


16266
03:48:27,682 --> 03:48:31,060
an incumbent property owner, you

16267
03:48:31,060 --> 03:48:31,060


16268
03:48:31,060 --> 03:48:32,838
know or you're a renter so I

16269
03:48:32,838 --> 03:48:35,728
just want to make that pitch

16270
03:48:35,728 --> 03:48:37,586
because, because we have a

16271
03:48:37,586 --> 03:48:39,892
community that is 60% renters

16272
03:48:39,892 --> 03:48:41,902
and when all of our policymaker

16273
03:48:41,902 --> 03:48:41,902
s

16274
03:48:41,902 --> 03:48:42,894
are homeowners and when everyon

16275
03:48:42,894 --> 03:48:42,894
e

16276
03:48:42,894 --> 03:48:44,346
on our boards are homeowners, o

16277
03:48:44,346 --> 03:48:44,346
r

16278
03:48:44,346 --> 03:48:47,800
live in a, a family -- a home

16279
03:48:47,800 --> 03:48:49,232
owned by their family, where y

16280
03:48:49,232 --> 03:48:49,232
ou

16281
03:48:49,232 --> 03:48:50,812
don't pay rent, because that's

16282
03:48:50,812 --> 03:48:50,812


16283
03:48:50,812 --> 03:48:52,881
how homeownership is typically

16284
03:48:52,881 --> 03:48:52,881


16285
03:48:52,881 --> 03:48:54,543
measured, if you're not paying

16286
03:48:54,543 --> 03:48:54,543


16287
03:48:54,543 --> 03:48:56,614
rent, you live in a owned home,

16288
03:48:56,614 --> 03:48:56,614


16289
03:48:56,614 --> 03:48:58,216
a family owned home of some

16290
03:48:58,216 --> 03:48:58,216
sort.

16291
03:48:58,216 --> 03:49:00,178
anies with just want to make

16292
03:49:00,178 --> 03:49:01,082
that pitch out there.

16293
03:49:01,082 --> 03:49:02,478
but also understand that

16294
03:49:02,478 --> 03:49:05,556
ms. Moraski is pretty well

16295
03:49:05,556 --> 03:49:06,437
qualified both with the

16296
03:49:06,437 --> 03:49:07,463
knowledge of our community but

16297
03:49:07,463 --> 03:49:07,463


16298
03:49:07,463 --> 03:49:09,131
also the basics of urban

16299
03:49:09,131 --> 03:49:09,131
planning.

16300
03:49:09,131 --> 03:49:10,690
though I will say some people

16301
03:49:10,690 --> 03:49:13,490
think that we have plenty of

16302
03:49:13,490 --> 03:49:14,797
urban planner in the city.

16303
03:49:14,797 --> 03:49:15,462
they're called staff.

16304
03:49:15,462 --> 03:49:17,103
they're everywhere.

16305
03:49:17,103 --> 03:49:20,010
and they guide us a lot so to

16306
03:49:20,010 --> 03:49:21,973
some degree that plan board is

16307
03:49:21,973 --> 03:49:21,973


16308
03:49:21,973 --> 03:49:23,942
still just our neighbors'

16309
03:49:23,942 --> 03:49:25,272
knowledge, not necessarily.

16310
03:49:25,272 --> 03:49:26,871
we can hire, even more city

16311
03:49:26,871 --> 03:49:28,415
planners we could just have a  comm

16312
03:49:28,415 --> 03:49:29,522
commtee of city planners that

16313
03:49:29,522 --> 03:49:29,947
we hire.

16314
03:49:29,947 --> 03:49:31,712
so just putting that out there

16315
03:49:31,712 --> 03:49:31,712


16316
03:49:31,712 --> 03:49:32,211
as conversation.

16317
03:49:32,211 --> 03:49:34,004
we've had interesting, deep

16318
03:49:34,004 --> 03:49:34,844
conversations today so I just

16319
03:49:34,844 --> 03:49:36,620
wanted to throw it out there.

16320
03:49:36,620 --> 03:49:38,314
and just to be clear we have a

16321
03:49:38,314 --> 03:49:38,314
n

16322
03:49:38,314 --> 03:49:39,718
urban planner as our interim

16323
03:49:39,718 --> 03:49:42,794
city manager as well, so thank

16324
03:49:42,794 --> 03:49:42,794


16325
03:49:42,794 --> 03:49:44,526
you, madam clerk, for answering

16326
03:49:44,526 --> 03:49:44,526


16327
03:49:44,526 --> 03:49:45,202
that question.

16328
03:49:45,202 --> 03:49:46,059
thank you.

16329
03:49:46,059 --> 03:49:48,165
>> mayor: thank you.

16330
03:49:48,165 --> 03:49:49,891
commissioner duncan-walker.

16331
03:49:49,891 --> 03:49:50,683
>> thank you, mr. Mayor.

16332
03:49:50,683 --> 03:49:51,427
I have a question and it's kin

16333
03:49:51,427 --> 03:49:51,427
d

16334
03:49:51,427 --> 03:49:53,338
of to your point, commissioner

16335
03:49:53,338 --> 03:49:53,338


16336
03:49:53,338 --> 03:49:55,549
willits in terms of the

16337
03:49:55,549 --> 03:49:57,236
composition but do we currently

16338
03:49:57,236 --> 03:49:57,236


16339
03:49:57,236 --> 03:49:59,648
have -- we don't have a student

16340
03:49:59,648 --> 03:49:59,648


16341
03:49:59,648 --> 03:50:02,112
seat on this board, do we?

16342
03:50:02,112 --> 03:50:03,543
I don't see one indicated here?

16343
03:50:03,543 --> 03:50:03,543


16344
03:50:03,543 --> 03:50:04,974
>> we -- the staff liaison

16345
03:50:04,974 --> 03:50:06,049
hasn't requested for us to fil

16346
03:50:06,049 --> 03:50:06,049
l

16347
03:50:06,049 --> 03:50:07,776
it but I do believe that this

16348
03:50:07,776 --> 03:50:07,776
is

16349
03:50:07,776 --> 03:50:09,701
one of our boards that does ha

16350
03:50:09,701 --> 03:50:09,701
ve

16351
03:50:09,701 --> 03:50:10,417
a student seat.

16352
03:50:10,417 --> 03:50:12,560
we typically don't advertise f

16353
03:50:12,560 --> 03:50:12,560
or

16354
03:50:12,560 --> 03:50:13,885
those until september or octob

16355
03:50:13,885 --> 03:50:13,885
er

16356
03:50:13,885 --> 03:50:16,765
when students are back in

16357
03:50:16,765 --> 03:50:19,122
session because everyone sort o

16358
03:50:19,122 --> 03:50:19,122
f

16359
03:50:19,122 --> 03:50:21,934
gearing now towards finals and

16360
03:50:21,934 --> 03:50:21,934


16361
03:50:21,934 --> 03:50:22,931
graduation and all of those

16362
03:50:22,931 --> 03:50:25,233
types of things, so we typically

16363
03:50:25,233 --> 03:50:25,233


16364
03:50:25,233 --> 03:50:27,998
don't advertise for student

16365
03:50:27,998 --> 03:50:32,272
seats until usually it's aroun

16366
03:50:32,272 --> 03:50:32,272
d

16367
03:50:32,272 --> 03:50:34,038
the homecoming time frame gives

16368
03:50:34,038 --> 03:50:34,038


16369
03:50:34,038 --> 03:50:35,245
them a chance to get their foo

16370
03:50:35,245 --> 03:50:35,245
t

16371
03:50:35,245 --> 03:50:37,838
in the door, for the semester,

16372
03:50:37,838 --> 03:50:37,838


16373
03:50:37,838 --> 03:50:39,055
get their head on their

16374
03:50:39,055 --> 03:50:40,234
shoulders about what they want

16375
03:50:40,234 --> 03:50:40,234


16376
03:50:40,234 --> 03:50:42,856
to do for professional, you

16377
03:50:42,856 --> 03:50:45,588
know, experience, and we send

16378
03:50:45,588 --> 03:50:48,522
that out to the schools and our

16379
03:50:48,522 --> 03:50:48,522


16380
03:50:48,522 --> 03:50:51,354
different contacts to get

16381
03:50:51,354 --> 03:50:53,041
student applications, and as y

16382
03:50:53,041 --> 03:50:53,041
ou

16383
03:50:53,041 --> 03:50:56,040
heard, I do speak to college

16384
03:50:56,040 --> 03:51:00,404
classes, and wave the flag for

16385
03:51:00,404 --> 03:51:00,404


16386
03:51:00,404 --> 03:51:02,133
our advisory boards.

16387
03:51:02,133 --> 03:51:03,110
>> that's good.

16388
03:51:03,110 --> 03:51:05,112
that's good.

16389
03:51:05,112 --> 03:51:07,281
because I appreciate

16390
03:51:07,281 --> 03:51:09,925
mr. Brantley coming to us today

16391
03:51:09,925 --> 03:51:09,925
,

16392
03:51:09,925 --> 03:51:11,212
and he clearly is making all

16393
03:51:11,212 --> 03:51:13,412
sorts of efforts to educate

16394
03:51:13,412 --> 03:51:15,605
himself in this way, and what

16395
03:51:15,605 --> 03:51:15,605
I

16396
03:51:15,605 --> 03:51:17,787
would say based on how I'm

16397
03:51:17,787 --> 03:51:19,355
probably going to vote today, I

16398
03:51:19,355 --> 03:51:19,355
s

16399
03:51:19,355 --> 03:51:20,927
mr. Willis, I hope you will com

16400
03:51:20,927 --> 03:51:20,927
e

16401
03:51:20,927 --> 03:51:22,790
back around the time that we

16402
03:51:22,790 --> 03:51:23,895
open that application for the

16403
03:51:23,895 --> 03:51:27,659
student seat because what when

16404
03:51:27,659 --> 03:51:27,855
I

16405
03:51:27,855 --> 03:51:31,596
take a look at the experience

16406
03:51:31,596 --> 03:51:35,203
that ms. Jayne moraski brings t

16407
03:51:35,203 --> 03:51:35,203
o

16408
03:51:35,203 --> 03:51:35,967
the board, I have to lean in

16409
03:51:35,967 --> 03:51:36,738
that direction.

16410
03:51:36,738 --> 03:51:38,007
and you'll get there.

16411
03:51:38,007 --> 03:51:40,204
you will get there.

16412
03:51:40,204 --> 03:51:41,278
>> [off mic]

16413
03:51:41,278 --> 03:51:41,278
[laughter]

16414
03:51:41,278 --> 03:51:41,278
good.

16415
03:51:41,278 --> 03:51:41,278
good.

16416
03:51:41,278 --> 03:51:41,278
good.

16417
03:51:41,278 --> 03:51:41,278
good.

16418
03:51:41,278 --> 03:51:41,278
good.

16419
03:51:41,278 --> 03:51:51,018
and I mean, for me, it is the

16420
03:51:51,018 --> 03:51:52,417
diverse wealth of experience

16421
03:51:52,417 --> 03:51:54,952
that she brings to this.

16422
03:51:54,952 --> 03:51:59,392
and how that can just make tha

16423
03:51:59,392 --> 03:51:59,392
t

16424
03:51:59,392 --> 03:52:00,463
board so much more robust.

16425
03:52:00,463 --> 03:52:01,277
commissioner willits, I am

16426
03:52:01,277 --> 03:52:02,327
certainly willing to entertain

16427
03:52:02,327 --> 03:52:02,729
a

16428
03:52:02,729 --> 03:52:04,062
conversation about the ways tha

16429
03:52:04,062 --> 03:52:04,062
t

16430
03:52:04,062 --> 03:52:06,617
we can continue to diversify t

16431
03:52:06,617 --> 03:52:06,617
he

16432
03:52:06,617 --> 03:52:06,617
board.

16433
03:52:06,617 --> 03:52:10,259
but I certainly, mr. Willis,

16434
03:52:10,259 --> 03:52:11,045
please come back in september or

16435
03:52:11,045 --> 03:52:11,045


16436
03:52:11,045 --> 03:52:13,774
whenever it is that that we

16437
03:52:13,774 --> 03:52:14,976
advertise this again because I

16438
03:52:14,976 --> 03:52:14,976


16439
03:52:14,976 --> 03:52:16,109
certainly appreciate your

16440
03:52:16,109 --> 03:52:18,215
application as well.

16441
03:52:18,215 --> 03:52:18,745
>> mayor: thank you,

16442
03:52:18,745 --> 03:52:19,692
commissioner duncan-walker.

16443
03:52:19,692 --> 03:52:21,713
so madam clerk, I have a concern

16444
03:52:21,713 --> 03:52:21,713


16445
03:52:21,713 --> 03:52:24,656
that if we're waiting until

16446
03:52:24,656 --> 03:52:28,701
october or sod to aert    adverti

16447
03:52:28,701 --> 03:52:28,701
se

16448
03:52:28,701 --> 03:52:29,597
for a student position, that

16449
03:52:29,597 --> 03:52:30,420
means they don't really start

16450
03:52:30,420 --> 03:52:34,463
until january, and we may end u

16451
03:52:34,463 --> 03:52:34,463
p

16452
03:52:34,463 --> 03:52:36,390
putting somebody on the board

16453
03:52:36,390 --> 03:52:37,280
that's only here for one

16454
03:52:37,280 --> 03:52:37,280
semester.

16455
03:52:37,280 --> 03:52:39,037
>> mr. Mayor, it's a point wel

16456
03:52:39,037 --> 03:52:39,037
l

16457
03:52:39,037 --> 03:52:39,037
taken.

16458
03:52:39,037 --> 03:52:41,202
most of the student seats we d

16459
03:52:41,202 --> 03:52:41,202
o

16460
03:52:41,202 --> 03:52:43,684
with you all in camera in your

16461
03:52:43,684 --> 03:52:43,684


16462
03:52:43,684 --> 03:52:49,577
chambers, and so we get them o

16463
03:52:49,577 --> 03:52:49,577
n

16464
03:52:49,577 --> 03:52:50,805
the appointment and on the

16465
03:52:50,805 --> 03:52:51,473
consent agenda much more

16466
03:52:51,473 --> 03:52:51,473
quickly.

16467
03:52:51,473 --> 03:52:55,763
we usually have them on there

16468
03:52:55,763 --> 03:52:58,083
with by the end of october ear

16469
03:52:58,083 --> 03:52:58,083
ly

16470
03:52:58,083 --> 03:52:58,083
november.

16471
03:52:58,083 --> 03:53:01,988
it does eat into -- it's just

16472
03:53:01,988 --> 03:53:03,592
our experience when we've done

16473
03:53:03,592 --> 03:53:03,592


16474
03:53:03,592 --> 03:53:06,107
applications for students we

16475
03:53:06,107 --> 03:53:07,732
don't get the pool that you all

16476
03:53:07,732 --> 03:53:07,732


16477
03:53:07,732 --> 03:53:09,247
want to see.

16478
03:53:09,247 --> 03:53:09,763
>> mayor: okay.

16479
03:53:09,763 --> 03:53:10,096
all right.

16480
03:53:10,096 --> 03:53:11,432
thank you.

16481
03:53:11,432 --> 03:53:13,431
commissioner ingle.

16482
03:53:13,431 --> 03:53:15,673
>> make a motion to appoint

16483
03:53:15,673 --> 03:53:18,701
jayne moraski to the city plan

16484
03:53:18,701 --> 03:53:18,701


16485
03:53:18,701 --> 03:53:25,381
board -- [off mic]

16486
03:53:25,381 --> 03:53:29,193
>> sentiments that we   you jus

16487
03:53:29,193 --> 03:53:29,193
t

16488
03:53:29,193 --> 03:53:29,877
stay involved.

16489
03:53:29,877 --> 03:53:31,950
more opportunities for you.

16490
03:53:31,950 --> 03:53:33,443
>> second.

16491
03:53:33,443 --> 03:53:34,122
>> mayor: all right we have a

16492
03:53:34,122 --> 03:53:34,122
second.

16493
03:53:34,122 --> 03:53:37,050
we did not sahave the       giv

16494
03:53:37,050 --> 03:53:37,261
e the

16495
03:53:37,261 --> 03:53:38,028
other folks an opportunity.

16496
03:53:38,028 --> 03:53:40,227
>> oh, whoops, sorry.

16497
03:53:40,227 --> 03:53:40,833
>> mayor: that's okay.

16498
03:53:40,833 --> 03:53:41,897
I can do that before we vote.

16499
03:53:41,897 --> 03:53:43,235
>> neither of those folks

16500
03:53:43,235 --> 03:53:45,305
indicate -- they let us know

16501
03:53:45,305 --> 03:53:46,208
they weren't going to be able t

16502
03:53:46,208 --> 03:53:46,208
o

16503
03:53:46,208 --> 03:53:46,208
attend.

16504
03:53:46,208 --> 03:53:47,317
>> mayor: all right, well that

16505
03:53:47,317 --> 03:53:47,317


16506
03:53:47,317 --> 03:53:48,265
makes it easier, doesn't it.

16507
03:53:48,265 --> 03:53:49,005
all right.

16508
03:53:49,005 --> 03:53:49,875
commissioner eastman, did you

16509
03:53:49,875 --> 03:53:50,276
have anything else?

16510
03:53:50,276 --> 03:53:51,167
>> I was going do do exactly

16511
03:53:51,167 --> 03:53:57,591
what commissioner ingle did.

16512
03:53:57,591 --> 03:53:58,645
>> there is no public comment.

16513
03:53:58,645 --> 03:53:58,645


16514
03:53:58,645 --> 03:53:59,848
>> mayor: all in favor, I rirya

16515
03:53:59,848 --> 03:54:00,240
n

16516
03:54:00,240 --> 03:54:00,240
aye.

16517
03:54:00,240 --> 03:54:02,422
any opposed?

16518
03:54:02,422 --> 03:54:05,784
congratulations ms. Moraski.

16519
03:54:05,784 --> 03:54:06,689
thank you for being willing.

16520
03:54:06,689 --> 03:54:08,627
and mr. Willis, please do stay

16521
03:54:08,627 --> 03:54:08,627


16522
03:54:08,627 --> 03:54:08,627
involved.

16523
03:54:08,627 --> 03:54:09,989
there are many other boards out

16524
03:54:09,989 --> 03:54:09,989


16525
03:54:09,989 --> 03:54:09,989
there.

16526
03:54:09,989 --> 03:54:11,139
okay, madam clerk.

16527
03:54:11,139 --> 03:54:13,505
>> mr. Mayor, 2026-203,

16528
03:54:13,505 --> 03:54:14,727
application to the audit

16529
03:54:14,727 --> 03:54:15,495
committee with recommendation

16530
03:54:15,495 --> 03:54:17,102
the city commission review the

16531
03:54:17,102 --> 03:54:17,102


16532
03:54:17,102 --> 03:54:18,193
application received for

16533
03:54:18,193 --> 03:54:19,117
appointment to the audit

16534
03:54:19,117 --> 03:54:21,935
committee and take action deeme

16535
03:54:21,935 --> 03:54:21,935
d

16536
03:54:21,935 --> 03:54:21,935
necessary.

16537
03:54:21,935 --> 03:54:24,539
we did have only one applicant

16538
03:54:24,539 --> 03:54:24,539
,

16539
03:54:24,539 --> 03:54:27,912
who is here with us today, and

16540
03:54:27,912 --> 03:54:27,912


16541
03:54:27,912 --> 03:54:30,012
he did also attend the audit

16542
03:54:30,012 --> 03:54:31,345
committee meeting.

16543
03:54:31,345 --> 03:54:33,147
>> mayor: all right, would you

16544
03:54:33,147 --> 03:54:33,147


16545
03:54:33,147 --> 03:54:35,545
like to speak?

16546
03:54:35,545 --> 03:54:43,023
>> just want to say happy frida

16547
03:54:43,023 --> 03:54:43,023
y

16548
03:54:43,023 --> 03:54:43,023
eve.

16549
03:54:43,023 --> 03:54:45,112
I used to travel a lot when I

16550
03:54:45,112 --> 03:54:46,764
was down in the rider systems

16551
03:54:46,764 --> 03:54:48,193
always rider trucks always

16552
03:54:48,193 --> 03:54:49,466
traveled sunday night hated

16553
03:54:49,466 --> 03:54:51,000
being away from my family so I

16554
03:54:51,000 --> 03:54:51,000


16555
03:54:51,000 --> 03:54:52,337
always counted down to fried s

16556
03:54:52,337 --> 03:54:52,337
o

16557
03:54:52,337 --> 03:54:53,739
I do want to -- friday.

16558
03:54:53,739 --> 03:54:54,702
so I do want to appreciate you

16559
03:54:54,702 --> 03:54:54,702


16560
03:54:54,702 --> 03:54:55,799
all as far as inviting me here

16561
03:54:55,799 --> 03:54:55,799


16562
03:54:55,799 --> 03:54:55,799
today.

16563
03:54:55,799 --> 03:54:57,350
just give you a background of

16564
03:54:57,350 --> 03:54:57,350
myself.

16565
03:54:57,350 --> 03:54:59,743
my name is mark modus.

16566
03:54:59,743 --> 03:55:01,465
I have my cpa license I have a

16567
03:55:01,465 --> 03:55:01,465


16568
03:55:01,465 --> 03:55:02,443
masters in taxation I'm a

16569
03:55:02,443 --> 03:55:05,135
professor over at santa fe

16570
03:55:05,135 --> 03:55:08,815
college teach as far as --

16571
03:55:08,815 --> 03:55:09,978
courses over there and also

16572
03:55:09,978 --> 03:55:11,092
created and put together the

16573
03:55:11,092 --> 03:55:12,708
advanced government accounting

16574
03:55:12,708 --> 03:55:12,708


16575
03:55:12,708 --> 03:55:12,708
course.

16576
03:55:12,708 --> 03:55:14,599
prior to coming up here, I was

16577
03:55:14,599 --> 03:55:14,599


16578
03:55:14,599 --> 03:55:18,495
the head of a accounting -- for

16579
03:55:18,495 --> 03:55:18,495


16580
03:55:18,495 --> 03:55:19,900
broward county school board, s

16581
03:55:19,900 --> 03:55:19,900
o

16582
03:55:19,900 --> 03:55:21,302
we were the sixth largest schoo

16583
03:55:21,302 --> 03:55:21,302
l

16584
03:55:21,302 --> 03:55:23,063
system in the nation, and prior

16585
03:55:23,063 --> 03:55:23,063


16586
03:55:23,063 --> 03:55:28,132
to that I was over at rider

16587
03:55:28,132 --> 03:55:28,132
systems.

16588
03:55:28,132 --> 03:55:29,786
my wife asked me why are you

16589
03:55:29,786 --> 03:55:31,769
interested in doing this?

16590
03:55:31,769 --> 03:55:32,840
because as far as you know

16591
03:55:32,840 --> 03:55:34,361
volunteering, and I would say

16592
03:55:34,361 --> 03:55:35,249
well two things.

16593
03:55:35,249 --> 03:55:37,981
I said as far as being head ove

16594
03:55:37,981 --> 03:55:37,981
r

16595
03:55:37,981 --> 03:55:39,149
broward county for financial

16596
03:55:39,149 --> 03:55:43,089
reporting, was I was conductin

16597
03:55:43,089 --> 03:55:43,089
g

16598
03:55:43,089 --> 03:55:43,929
meetings with the audit

16599
03:55:43,929 --> 03:55:43,929
committee.

16600
03:55:43,929 --> 03:55:46,258
conducting meetings with the

16601
03:55:46,258 --> 03:55:46,258
board.

16602
03:55:46,258 --> 03:55:50,765
every month and with rider

16603
03:55:50,765 --> 03:55:51,703
systems it was pretty much the

16604
03:55:51,703 --> 03:55:51,703


16605
03:55:51,703 --> 03:55:52,317
same thing.

16606
03:55:52,317 --> 03:55:53,759
you know what?

16607
03:55:53,759 --> 03:55:54,921
this gives me the opportunity t

16608
03:55:54,921 --> 03:55:54,921
o

16609
03:55:54,921 --> 03:55:55,845
see how it's done on the other

16610
03:55:55,845 --> 03:55:56,957


16611
03:55:56,957 --> 03:55:57,561
on the other side.

16612
03:55:57,561 --> 03:55:59,205
on the flip being professor ove

16613
03:55:59,205 --> 03:55:59,205
r

16614
03:55:59,205 --> 03:56:03,004
santa fe college, I'm also on

16615
03:56:03,004 --> 03:56:04,111
the community connect and

16616
03:56:04,111 --> 03:56:04,981
community connect board what

16617
03:56:04,981 --> 03:56:07,485
we're doing is reaching inside

16618
03:56:07,485 --> 03:56:07,485


16619
03:56:07,485 --> 03:56:08,670
alachua county, outside the

16620
03:56:08,670 --> 03:56:10,981
county as well, and looking for,

16621
03:56:10,981 --> 03:56:10,981


16622
03:56:10,981 --> 03:56:13,049
to get that connection,

16623
03:56:13,049 --> 03:56:13,663
opportunities for business,

16624
03:56:13,663 --> 03:56:15,585
opportunities for governments.

16625
03:56:15,585 --> 03:56:15,585


16626
03:56:15,585 --> 03:56:18,019
not only for to extend santa f

16627
03:56:18,019 --> 03:56:18,019
e

16628
03:56:18,019 --> 03:56:20,289
college out more, but also to

16629
03:56:20,289 --> 03:56:21,813
help our students as far as we

16630
03:56:21,813 --> 03:56:21,813


16631
03:56:21,813 --> 03:56:23,594
got a lot of different

16632
03:56:23,594 --> 03:56:24,601
apprenticeships that are going

16633
03:56:24,601 --> 03:56:24,601


16634
03:56:24,601 --> 03:56:26,287
on, and I figured you know

16635
03:56:26,287 --> 03:56:26,287
what?

16636
03:56:26,287 --> 03:56:28,291
what's a better way to learn

16637
03:56:28,291 --> 03:56:30,145
about such a good size city as

16638
03:56:30,145 --> 03:56:30,145


16639
03:56:30,145 --> 03:56:31,201
gainesville, what the

16640
03:56:31,201 --> 03:56:35,064
opportunities are there, and

16641
03:56:35,064 --> 03:56:37,768
just -- as you can tell, as I

16642
03:56:37,768 --> 03:56:39,778
tell my students and my class, I

16643
03:56:39,778 --> 03:56:39,778


16644
03:56:39,778 --> 03:56:40,836
talk and never shut up, so the

16645
03:56:40,836 --> 03:56:40,836
re

16646
03:56:40,836 --> 03:56:41,603
we go.

16647
03:56:41,603 --> 03:56:42,575
appreciate the time.

16648
03:56:42,575 --> 03:56:44,317
>> mayor: all right, thank you.

16649
03:56:44,317 --> 03:56:44,317


16650
03:56:44,317 --> 03:56:47,180
commissioner book?

16651
03:56:47,180 --> 03:56:49,020
>> this is so easy.

16652
03:56:49,020 --> 03:56:51,925
mr. Mayor, so professor modus

16653
03:56:51,925 --> 03:56:52,719
has the knowledge, the skills,

16654
03:56:52,719 --> 03:56:52,719


16655
03:56:52,719 --> 03:56:54,365
the abilities, he's a current

16656
03:56:54,365 --> 03:56:56,626
educator so he is going to be u

16657
03:56:56,626 --> 03:56:56,626
p

16658
03:56:56,626 --> 03:56:59,273
on trends related to auditing

16659
03:56:59,273 --> 03:56:59,273
in

16660
03:56:59,273 --> 03:57:01,701
the field so under 2026-203 I

16661
03:57:01,701 --> 03:57:02,971
recommend approval of professor

16662
03:57:02,971 --> 03:57:02,971


16663
03:57:02,971 --> 03:57:03,989
mark modus to the audit

16664
03:57:03,989 --> 03:57:03,989
committee.

16665
03:57:03,989 --> 03:57:07,741
>> second.

16666
03:57:07,741 --> 03:57:08,481
>> mayor: we have a motion and

16667
03:57:08,481 --> 03:57:08,571
a

16668
03:57:08,571 --> 03:57:08,571
second.

16669
03:57:08,571 --> 03:57:10,636
commissioner duncan-walker.

16670
03:57:10,636 --> 03:57:13,601
>> I was going to simply

16671
03:57:13,601 --> 03:57:13,601
support.

16672
03:57:13,601 --> 03:57:15,207
that's it.

16673
03:57:15,207 --> 03:57:15,636
>> mayor: all right.

16674
03:57:15,636 --> 03:57:21,093
commissioner eastman?

16675
03:57:21,093 --> 03:57:21,849
>> I called around to some

16676
03:57:21,849 --> 03:57:23,364
friends in the city of newberr

16677
03:57:23,364 --> 03:57:23,364
y

16678
03:57:23,364 --> 03:57:25,354
who -- mr. Modus here has a

16679
03:57:25,354 --> 03:57:25,883
great reputation.

16680
03:57:25,883 --> 03:57:27,454
you're very involved within you

16681
03:57:27,454 --> 03:57:27,454
r

16682
03:57:27,454 --> 03:57:30,463
community from what I've heard

16683
03:57:30,463 --> 03:57:30,463
.

16684
03:57:30,463 --> 03:57:31,991
yob ryan undine been helpful I

16685
03:57:31,991 --> 03:57:31,991
n

16686
03:57:31,991 --> 03:57:32,963
the -- you've been helpful in

16687
03:57:32,963 --> 03:57:34,691
the city of newberry in trying

16688
03:57:34,691 --> 03:57:34,691


16689
03:57:34,691 --> 03:57:35,499
to work through the of the

16690
03:57:35,499 --> 03:57:37,597
financials there so I think

16691
03:57:37,597 --> 03:57:38,811
you'll be a great addition to

16692
03:57:38,811 --> 03:57:39,915
our audit committee and this I

16693
03:57:39,915 --> 03:57:39,915
s

16694
03:57:39,915 --> 03:57:41,177
great for your record, we how

16695
03:57:41,177 --> 03:57:44,331
long was our last board member

16696
03:57:44,331 --> 03:57:44,331


16697
03:57:44,331 --> 03:57:44,331
there?

16698
03:57:44,331 --> 03:57:45,973
>> several years.

16699
03:57:45,973 --> 03:57:48,575
>> several years.

16700
03:57:48,575 --> 03:57:51,317
I'm looking forward have to

16701
03:57:51,317 --> 03:57:52,844
having you in there, have a

16702
03:57:52,844 --> 03:57:54,381
fresh pair of eyes on

16703
03:57:54,381 --> 03:57:54,381
everything.

16704
03:57:54,381 --> 03:57:56,577
>> appreciate you.

16705
03:57:56,577 --> 03:57:57,221
>> I think he's already attended

16706
03:57:57,221 --> 03:57:57,221


16707
03:57:57,221 --> 03:57:57,557
a meeting.

16708
03:57:57,557 --> 03:57:59,041
>> yeah, last week, yes, ma'am.

16709
03:57:59,041 --> 03:57:59,041


16710
03:57:59,041 --> 03:57:59,637
>> yes, yes.

16711
03:57:59,637 --> 03:58:00,283
>> yes, ma'am.

16712
03:58:00,283 --> 03:58:00,924
>> mayor: very good.

16713
03:58:00,924 --> 03:58:01,182
all right.

16714
03:58:01,182 --> 03:58:01,961
thank you, commissioner

16715
03:58:01,961 --> 03:58:01,961
eastman.

16716
03:58:01,961 --> 03:58:03,959
seeing no further lights, is

16717
03:58:03,959 --> 03:58:06,054
there any public comment?

16718
03:58:06,054 --> 03:58:07,059
>> there is no public comment.

16719
03:58:07,059 --> 03:58:07,059


16720
03:58:07,059 --> 03:58:07,801
>> mayor: all right, all in

16721
03:58:07,801 --> 03:58:09,093
favor, please say aye.

16722
03:58:09,093 --> 03:58:10,099
any opposed?

16723
03:58:10,099 --> 03:58:10,963
all righty, that passes

16724
03:58:10,963 --> 03:58:10,963
unanimously.

16725
03:58:10,963 --> 03:58:12,803
madam clerk.

16726
03:58:12,803 --> 03:58:14,067
>> mr. Mayor, we're onto

16727
03:58:14,067 --> 03:58:15,996
commission comment.

16728
03:58:15,996 --> 03:58:16,537
>> mayor: all right.

16729
03:58:16,537 --> 03:58:17,671
I have multiple commission

16730
03:58:17,671 --> 03:58:18,811
comments, but I'll save those

16731
03:58:18,811 --> 03:58:20,007
for, for the end of the

16732
03:58:20,007 --> 03:58:20,007
meeting.

16733
03:58:20,007 --> 03:58:22,611
anyone else?

16734
03:58:22,611 --> 03:58:22,913
anyone else?

16735
03:58:22,913 --> 03:58:25,743
we will be back here at 5:45 o

16736
03:58:25,743 --> 03:58:25,743
r

16737
03:58:25,743 --> 03:58:37,481
yeah, 5:45.

16738
03:58:37,481 --> 03:59:03,605


16739
00:00:00,000 --> 23:49:32,609


16740
23:49:32,609 --> 00:03:07,044
>> mayor: good evening,

16741
00:03:07,044 --> 00:03:07,044
everyone.

16742
00:03:07,044 --> 00:03:08,700
welcome to the evening session

16743
00:03:08,700 --> 00:03:08,700


16744
00:03:08,700 --> 00:03:11,337
for this thursday april 2nd

16745
00:03:11,337 --> 00:03:13,070
meeting of the gainesville city

16746
00:03:13,070 --> 00:03:13,070


16747
00:03:13,070 --> 00:03:13,070
commission.

16748
00:03:13,070 --> 00:03:16,875
we are lucky to have with us a

16749
00:03:16,875 --> 00:03:16,875


16750
00:03:16,875 --> 00:03:18,541
great group of cub scouts and

16751
00:03:18,541 --> 00:03:20,282
I'm going to invite you all to

16752
00:03:20,282 --> 00:03:20,282


16753
00:03:20,282 --> 00:03:22,443
come forward and lead us in the

16754
00:03:22,443 --> 00:03:22,443


16755
00:03:22,443 --> 00:03:24,320
pledge please.

16756
00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:25,952
come on up.

16757
00:03:25,952 --> 00:03:33,059
good marching.

16758
00:03:33,059 --> 00:03:39,930
so we're going to follow your

16759
00:03:39,930 --> 00:03:39,930
lead.

16760
00:03:39,930 --> 00:03:41,534
>> start it off.

16761
00:03:41,534 --> 00:03:47,044
>> group: I pledge allegiance to

16762
00:03:47,044 --> 00:03:47,044


16763
00:03:47,044 --> 00:03:47,679
the flag of the united states of

16764
00:03:47,679 --> 00:03:47,679


16765
00:03:47,679 --> 00:03:49,333
america and to the republic for

16766
00:03:49,333 --> 00:03:49,333


16767
00:03:49,333 --> 00:03:49,923
which it stands one nation und

16768
00:03:49,923 --> 00:03:49,923
er

16769
00:03:49,923 --> 00:03:51,400
god indivisible with liberty a

16770
00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:51,400
nd

16771
00:03:51,400 --> 00:03:55,012
justice for all.

16772
00:03:55,012 --> 00:03:57,981
>> mayor: very, very good.

16773
00:03:57,981 --> 00:03:59,311
y'all turn around and let's get

16774
00:03:59,311 --> 00:03:59,311


16775
00:03:59,311 --> 00:04:01,365
some photos.

16776
00:04:01,365 --> 00:04:03,667
>> you want to take a picture?

16777
00:04:03,667 --> 00:04:03,667


16778
00:04:03,667 --> 00:04:06,166
>> get in here.

16779
00:04:06,166 --> 00:04:22,158
[indistinct conversation]

16780
00:04:22,158 --> 00:04:24,908
>> mayor: between that and the

16781
00:04:24,908 --> 00:04:24,908


16782
00:04:24,908 --> 00:04:26,443
rocket launch last night, I'm

16783
00:04:26,443 --> 00:04:28,380
feeling all kinds of patriotic

16784
00:04:28,380 --> 00:04:28,380
.

16785
00:04:28,380 --> 00:04:29,684
good work.

16786
00:04:29,684 --> 00:04:29,684
[applause]

16787
00:04:29,684 --> 00:04:36,687
madam clerk.

16788
00:04:36,687 --> 00:04:38,763
>> mr. Mayor, oh, my goodness.

16789
00:04:38,763 --> 00:04:38,763


16790
00:04:38,763 --> 00:04:39,892
it's a hard act to follow.

16791
00:04:39,892 --> 00:04:43,234
>> mayor: yes.

16792
00:04:43,234 --> 00:04:45,135
>> oh, my gosh.

16793
00:04:45,135 --> 00:04:45,554
[indistinct conversation]

16794
00:04:45,554 --> 00:04:52,368
>> give them a minute.

16795
00:04:52,368 --> 00:04:57,188
>> they may need just  a sec.

16796
00:04:57,188 --> 00:05:07,226
mr. Mayor, we have 2026-251,

16797
00:05:07,226 --> 00:05:08,424
national public safety

16798
00:05:08,424 --> 00:05:27,299
telecommunications week.

16799
00:05:27,299 --> 00:05:38,212
>> mayor: whereas the professio

16800
00:05:38,212 --> 00:05:38,212
n

16801
00:05:38,212 --> 00:05:39,821
of public safety

16802
00:05:39,821 --> 00:05:40,925
telecommunicator in alachua

16803
00:05:40,925 --> 00:05:42,005
county plays a crucial role in

16804
00:05:42,005 --> 00:05:42,005


16805
00:05:42,005 --> 00:05:43,333
the protection of life, propert

16806
00:05:43,333 --> 00:05:43,333
y

16807
00:05:43,333 --> 00:05:44,622
and delivery of public safety

16808
00:05:44,622 --> 00:05:44,622
services.

16809
00:05:44,622 --> 00:05:47,625
and whereas, each day hundreds

16810
00:05:47,625 --> 00:05:47,625


16811
00:05:47,625 --> 00:05:50,092
of neighbors dial 911 for help

16812
00:05:50,092 --> 00:05:50,092


16813
00:05:50,092 --> 00:05:51,962
in emergencies and the

16814
00:05:51,962 --> 00:05:53,704
telecommunicators who answer

16815
00:05:53,704 --> 00:05:55,583
these calls gather essential

16816
00:05:55,583 --> 00:05:56,696
information and dispatch the

16817
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appropriate assistance which c

16818
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an

16819
00:05:58,636 --> 00:05:59,835
often make the difference

16820
00:05:59,835 --> 00:06:00,834
between life and death for

16821
00:06:00,834 --> 00:06:01,714
persons in need.

16822
00:06:01,714 --> 00:06:04,495
and whereas, these well trained

16823
00:06:04,495 --> 00:06:04,495
,

16824
00:06:04,495 --> 00:06:05,679
highly dedicated and deeply

16825
00:06:05,679 --> 00:06:07,512
motivated individuals proudly

16826
00:06:07,512 --> 00:06:08,812
and selflessly serve the

16827
00:06:08,812 --> 00:06:10,787
neighbors of gainesville 24

16828
00:06:10,787 --> 00:06:12,897
hours a day, seven days a week

16829
00:06:12,897 --> 00:06:12,897
,

16830
00:06:12,897 --> 00:06:14,483
and sometimes during extreme

16831
00:06:14,483 --> 00:06:16,487
situations such as hurricanes,

16832
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16833
00:06:16,487 --> 00:06:17,924
making them unable to be with

16834
00:06:17,924 --> 00:06:19,454
their own families or protect

16835
00:06:19,454 --> 00:06:20,423
their personal homes and

16836
00:06:20,423 --> 00:06:20,423
property.

16837
00:06:20,423 --> 00:06:23,205
and whereas, telecommunicators

16838
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16839
00:06:23,205 --> 00:06:24,701
who are the original first

16840
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responders are honored to

16841
00:06:26,532 --> 00:06:27,417
receive recognition by the

16842
00:06:27,417 --> 00:06:28,698
neighbors and agencies who

16843
00:06:28,698 --> 00:06:30,567
depend on them and benefit fro

16844
00:06:30,567 --> 00:06:30,567
m

16845
00:06:30,567 --> 00:06:31,569
their services.

16846
00:06:31,569 --> 00:06:33,435
and whereas, the congress of t

16847
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he

16848
00:06:33,435 --> 00:06:35,540
united states has proclaimed I

16849
00:06:35,540 --> 00:06:35,540
n

16850
00:06:35,540 --> 00:06:37,342
support and recognition to the

16851
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se

16852
00:06:37,342 --> 00:06:38,507
employees and their profession

16853
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16854
00:06:38,507 --> 00:06:39,451
and the city commission wishes

16855
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16856
00:06:39,451 --> 00:06:42,414
to publicly recognize the local

16857
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16858
00:06:42,414 --> 00:06:43,451
telecommunicators who serve the

16859
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16860
00:06:43,451 --> 00:06:46,348
neighbors of gainesville in suc

16861
00:06:46,348 --> 00:06:46,348
hmanner.

16862
00:06:46,348 --> 00:06:50,111
now, therefore, I harvey l. Ward

16863
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16864
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jr. By the authority vested in

16865
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16866
00:06:51,062 --> 00:06:52,258
me by the city of gainesville d

16867
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o

16868
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hereby proclaim april  12 throu

16869
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gh

16870
00:06:57,493 --> 00:07:00,662
18, 2026 as national

16871
00:07:00,662 --> 00:07:02,105
telecommunicators week and

16872
00:07:02,105 --> 00:07:04,165
invite our neighbors to

16873
00:07:04,165 --> 00:07:05,804
recognize our heroes in witness

16874
00:07:05,804 --> 00:07:05,804


16875
00:07:05,804 --> 00:07:09,486
whereof, I have caused to be

16876
00:07:09,486 --> 00:07:12,295
affixed the official seal of t

16877
00:07:12,295 --> 00:07:12,295
he

16878
00:07:12,295 --> 00:07:13,483
city of gainesville, florida

16879
00:07:13,483 --> 00:07:15,680
this 31st day of march, 2026.

16880
00:07:15,680 --> 00:07:17,021
thank you, all.

16881
00:07:17,021 --> 00:07:17,021
[applause]

16882
00:07:17,021 --> 00:07:21,118
and I want to tell you, this o

16883
00:07:21,118 --> 00:07:21,118
ne

16884
00:07:21,118 --> 00:07:22,455
is special to me.

16885
00:07:22,455 --> 00:07:24,764
when I was a kid, my dad was a

16886
00:07:24,764 --> 00:07:24,764


16887
00:07:24,764 --> 00:07:28,032
radio operator/early

16888
00:07:28,032 --> 00:07:30,202
telecommunicator at gpd.

16889
00:07:30,202 --> 00:07:34,360
and so I grew up when we had a

16890
00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:34,360
n

16891
00:07:34,360 --> 00:07:36,178
emergency, my dad was -- it was

16892
00:07:36,178 --> 00:07:36,178


16893
00:07:36,178 --> 00:07:37,765
a hurricane or whatever, dad w

16894
00:07:37,765 --> 00:07:37,765
as

16895
00:07:37,765 --> 00:07:38,555
at gpd.

16896
00:07:38,555 --> 00:07:44,585
and so I respect what youall do

16897
00:07:44,585 --> 00:07:44,585


16898
00:07:44,585 --> 00:07:45,155
very much and what your families

16899
00:07:45,155 --> 00:07:45,155


16900
00:07:45,155 --> 00:07:45,510
offer as well.

16901
00:07:45,510 --> 00:07:51,576
>> hello, my name is kristoffer

16902
00:07:51,576 --> 00:07:51,576


16903
00:07:51,576 --> 00:07:55,610
orwig, I'm at the alachua count

16904
00:07:55,610 --> 00:07:55,610
y

16905
00:07:55,610 --> 00:07:56,127
training center.

16906
00:07:56,127 --> 00:07:58,332
on behalf of my co-workers, I'd

16907
00:07:58,332 --> 00:07:58,332


16908
00:07:58,332 --> 00:08:00,225
like to thank the chair and

16909
00:08:00,225 --> 00:08:01,257
citizens of alachua county for

16910
00:08:01,257 --> 00:08:01,257


16911
00:08:01,257 --> 00:08:05,001
taking the time to recognize

16912
00:08:05,001 --> 00:08:06,659
telecommunicators safety week

16913
00:08:06,659 --> 00:08:06,659
2026.

16914
00:08:06,659 --> 00:08:07,499
thank you.

16915
00:08:07,499 --> 00:08:23,451
[applause]

16916
00:08:23,451 --> 00:08:38,479
>> mr. Mayor, we have 2026-197,

16917
00:08:38,479 --> 00:08:38,479


16918
00:08:38,479 --> 00:08:42,097
child abuse prevention month.

16919
00:08:42,097 --> 00:08:42,633
>> mayor: all right.

16920
00:08:42,633 --> 00:08:43,535
who is receiving this?

16921
00:08:43,535 --> 00:08:45,715
there we go.

16922
00:08:45,715 --> 00:08:51,819
whereas, prevention is possible.

16923
00:08:51,819 --> 00:08:51,819


16924
00:08:51,819 --> 00:08:52,685
every family and child are

16925
00:08:52,685 --> 00:08:54,877
filled with tremendous promise.

16926
00:08:54,877 --> 00:08:54,877


16927
00:08:54,877 --> 00:08:56,518
we all have a collective

16928
00:08:56,518 --> 00:08:58,814
responsibility to prevent

16929
00:08:58,814 --> 00:09:00,630
adverse childhood experiences,

16930
00:09:00,630 --> 00:09:00,630


16931
00:09:00,630 --> 00:09:02,119
foster the potential of every

16932
00:09:02,119 --> 00:09:03,423
child and promote positive

16933
00:09:03,423 --> 00:09:04,289
childhood experiences.

16934
00:09:04,289 --> 00:09:05,951
and whereas, families who

16935
00:09:05,951 --> 00:09:08,025
receive the support they need

16936
00:09:08,025 --> 00:09:09,337
before a crisis occurs are

16937
00:09:09,337 --> 00:09:11,199
better equipped to provide saf

16938
00:09:11,199 --> 00:09:11,199
e,

16939
00:09:11,199 --> 00:09:13,591
healthy and nurturing

16940
00:09:13,591 --> 00:09:14,805
environments leading to children

16941
00:09:14,805 --> 00:09:14,805


16942
00:09:14,805 --> 00:09:16,265
who are safer, healthier and

16943
00:09:16,265 --> 00:09:17,905
more hopeful about their

16944
00:09:17,905 --> 00:09:17,905
futures.

16945
00:09:17,905 --> 00:09:19,935
whereas childhood trauma

16946
00:09:19,935 --> 00:09:22,041
including abuse and neglect can

16947
00:09:22,041 --> 00:09:22,041


16948
00:09:22,041 --> 00:09:23,778
have long-term psychological,

16949
00:09:23,778 --> 00:09:26,009
emotional and physical effects

16950
00:09:26,009 --> 00:09:26,009


16951
00:09:26,009 --> 00:09:27,039
throughout an individual's

16952
00:09:27,039 --> 00:09:28,479
lifetime and impact future

16953
00:09:28,479 --> 00:09:28,479
generations.

16954
00:09:28,479 --> 00:09:31,777
and whereas, we acknowledge that

16955
00:09:31,777 --> 00:09:31,777


16956
00:09:31,777 --> 00:09:33,619
we must work together as a

16957
00:09:33,619 --> 00:09:35,715
community to increase awareness

16958
00:09:35,715 --> 00:09:35,715


16959
00:09:35,715 --> 00:09:37,263
about child abuse and contribut

16960
00:09:37,263 --> 00:09:37,263
e

16961
00:09:37,263 --> 00:09:38,753
to promoting the social and

16962
00:09:38,753 --> 00:09:40,300
emotional well-being of children

16963
00:09:40,300 --> 00:09:40,300


16964
00:09:40,300 --> 00:09:43,159
and families in a safe, stable

16965
00:09:43,159 --> 00:09:43,159


16966
00:09:43,159 --> 00:09:45,096
and nurturing environment.

16967
00:09:45,096 --> 00:09:47,199
and whereas, investments in

16968
00:09:47,199 --> 00:09:48,269
prevention initiatives are

16969
00:09:48,269 --> 00:09:49,701
essential to building safer and

16970
00:09:49,701 --> 00:09:49,701


16971
00:09:49,701 --> 00:09:52,673
healthier communities for all.

16972
00:09:52,673 --> 00:09:52,673


16973
00:09:52,673 --> 00:09:55,271
therefore, I harvey l. Ward jr.

16974
00:09:55,271 --> 00:09:55,271


16975
00:09:55,271 --> 00:09:57,237
as the mayor of the city of

16976
00:09:57,237 --> 00:09:58,575
gainesville harborby proclaim

16977
00:09:58,575 --> 00:10:00,081
april 2026 as child abuse

16978
00:10:00,081 --> 00:10:02,029
prevention month in the city of

16979
00:10:02,029 --> 00:10:02,029


16980
00:10:02,029 --> 00:10:03,053
gainesville and invite all our

16981
00:10:03,053 --> 00:10:03,053


16982
00:10:03,053 --> 00:10:04,352
neighbors to join me in

16983
00:10:04,352 --> 00:10:05,551
recognizing this month by

16984
00:10:05,551 --> 00:10:07,120
dedicating ourselves to the tas

16985
00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:07,120
k

16986
00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:08,343
of improving the quality of life

16987
00:10:08,343 --> 00:10:08,343


16988
00:10:08,343 --> 00:10:10,723
for all children and families.

16989
00:10:10,723 --> 00:10:10,723


16990
00:10:10,723 --> 00:10:12,569
in witness whereof, I have

16991
00:10:12,569 --> 00:10:14,523
hereunto set my hand and cause

16992
00:10:14,523 --> 00:10:14,523
d

16993
00:10:14,523 --> 00:10:15,765
to be affixed the official sea

16994
00:10:15,765 --> 00:10:15,765
l

16995
00:10:15,765 --> 00:10:17,009
of the city of gainesville,

16996
00:10:17,009 --> 00:10:17,836
florida this 11th day of

16997
00:10:17,836 --> 00:10:20,237
march, 2026.

16998
00:10:20,237 --> 00:10:21,667
harvey ward jr. Mayor.

16999
00:10:21,667 --> 00:10:21,667
congratulations.

17000
00:10:21,667 --> 00:10:21,667
[applause]

17001
00:10:21,667 --> 00:10:27,537
>> thank you, thank you.

17002
00:10:27,537 --> 00:10:29,521
on behalf of the alachua count

17003
00:10:29,521 --> 00:10:29,521
y

17004
00:10:29,521 --> 00:10:31,241
child abuse prevention task

17005
00:10:31,241 --> 00:10:33,781
force in partnership for stron

17006
00:10:33,781 --> 00:10:33,781
g

17007
00:10:33,781 --> 00:10:35,835
families, I want to thank you s

17008
00:10:35,835 --> 00:10:35,835
o

17009
00:10:35,835 --> 00:10:36,679
much for standing with us in

17010
00:10:36,679 --> 00:10:38,521
recognizing april as child abu

17011
00:10:38,521 --> 00:10:38,521
se

17012
00:10:38,521 --> 00:10:39,349
prevention month.

17013
00:10:39,349 --> 00:10:40,885
child abuse prevention needs t

17014
00:10:40,885 --> 00:10:40,885
o

17015
00:10:40,885 --> 00:10:42,785
happen all year long, but we'd

17016
00:10:42,785 --> 00:10:42,785


17017
00:10:42,785 --> 00:10:44,623
like to set aside this month t

17018
00:10:44,623 --> 00:10:44,623
o

17019
00:10:44,623 --> 00:10:45,823
especially recognize it.

17020
00:10:45,823 --> 00:10:48,521
and with that, I'm going to han

17021
00:10:48,521 --> 00:10:48,521
d

17022
00:10:48,521 --> 00:10:50,999
it over to sherry kitchens with

17023
00:10:50,999 --> 00:10:50,999


17024
00:10:50,999 --> 00:10:52,739
the child advocacy center.

17025
00:10:52,739 --> 00:10:54,401
>> good afternoon.

17026
00:10:54,401 --> 00:10:55,333
mayor, thank you so much for

17027
00:10:55,333 --> 00:10:57,615
this acknowledgment.

17028
00:10:57,615 --> 00:10:58,693
city commissioners, thank you

17029
00:10:58,693 --> 00:10:59,699
for all you do for children

17030
00:10:59,699 --> 00:11:00,504
throughout the year.

17031
00:11:00,504 --> 00:11:03,017
my name is sherry kitchens,the

17032
00:11:03,017 --> 00:11:03,017


17033
00:11:03,017 --> 00:11:04,307
director of the child advocacy

17034
00:11:04,307 --> 00:11:04,307


17035
00:11:04,307 --> 00:11:06,241
center and the chair of the

17036
00:11:06,241 --> 00:11:07,017
alachua county child abuse

17037
00:11:07,017 --> 00:11:07,680
prevention task force.

17038
00:11:07,680 --> 00:11:09,297
you may have noticed if you hav

17039
00:11:09,297 --> 00:11:09,297
e

17040
00:11:09,297 --> 00:11:12,081
been by u.f. Health children's

17041
00:11:12,081 --> 00:11:12,081


17042
00:11:12,081 --> 00:11:13,667
hospital since yesterday, there

17043
00:11:13,667 --> 00:11:13,667


17044
00:11:13,667 --> 00:11:15,687
is a beautiful display of

17045
00:11:15,687 --> 00:11:16,655
pinwheels out front.

17046
00:11:16,655 --> 00:11:19,457
that is due to the support and

17047
00:11:19,457 --> 00:11:19,457


17048
00:11:19,457 --> 00:11:21,291
effort of the children's trust

17049
00:11:21,291 --> 00:11:21,291


17050
00:11:21,291 --> 00:11:23,655
of alachua county and 12

17051
00:11:23,655 --> 00:11:26,763
organizations that make up the

17052
00:11:26,763 --> 00:11:30,513
abuse prevention task

17053
00:11:30,513 --> 00:11:31,021
force, got out there yesterday

17054
00:11:31,021 --> 00:11:31,021
.

17055
00:11:31,021 --> 00:11:31,709
there were over 50 of us

17056
00:11:31,709 --> 00:11:34,405
planting those pinwheels, over

17057
00:11:34,405 --> 00:11:34,405


17058
00:11:34,405 --> 00:11:35,211
200 pinwheels.

17059
00:11:35,211 --> 00:11:36,581
you'll also see them throughou

17060
00:11:36,581 --> 00:11:36,581
t

17061
00:11:36,581 --> 00:11:37,855
the community.

17062
00:11:37,855 --> 00:11:39,503
everywhere where prevention is

17063
00:11:39,503 --> 00:11:39,503


17064
00:11:39,503 --> 00:11:40,213
happening in the community wit

17065
00:11:40,213 --> 00:11:40,213
h

17066
00:11:40,213 --> 00:11:41,189
our agencies.

17067
00:11:41,189 --> 00:11:43,480
so we really appreciate this

17068
00:11:43,480 --> 00:11:46,022
acknowledgment and your focus

17069
00:11:46,022 --> 00:11:47,753
and support in taking care of

17070
00:11:47,753 --> 00:11:49,722
chinch in our community.

17071
00:11:49,722 --> 00:11:53,994
>> and I'm emily mccauley with

17072
00:11:53,994 --> 00:11:53,994


17073
00:11:53,994 --> 00:11:55,830
the children's trust of alachua

17074
00:11:55,830 --> 00:11:55,830


17075
00:11:55,830 --> 00:11:55,830
county.

17076
00:11:55,830 --> 00:11:57,745
I will echo what has been said

17077
00:11:57,745 --> 00:11:57,745


17078
00:11:57,745 --> 00:11:58,928
here in that we are proud to

17079
00:11:58,928 --> 00:12:00,325
fund and support efforts all

17080
00:12:00,325 --> 00:12:02,990
around our community to make

17081
00:12:02,990 --> 00:12:03,796
alachua county safer for

17082
00:12:03,796 --> 00:12:05,134
children and families.

17083
00:12:05,134 --> 00:12:06,674
the pinwheels are a visual

17084
00:12:06,674 --> 00:12:08,100
reminder of that role that we

17085
00:12:08,100 --> 00:12:09,840
all collectively play.

17086
00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:11,474
I'll give a shout-out to the

17087
00:12:11,474 --> 00:12:13,356
students at the u.f. Center for

17088
00:12:13,356 --> 00:12:13,356


17089
00:12:13,356 --> 00:12:14,544
autism and related disabilitie

17090
00:12:14,544 --> 00:12:14,544
s

17091
00:12:14,544 --> 00:12:16,548
who helped us assemble about 600

17092
00:12:16,548 --> 00:12:16,548


17093
00:12:16,548 --> 00:12:18,280
of those pinwheels in our offic

17094
00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:18,280
e

17095
00:12:18,280 --> 00:12:19,012
last week.

17096
00:12:19,012 --> 00:12:21,894
and we have 10 different ctac

17097
00:12:21,894 --> 00:12:23,556
funded partners who will also b

17098
00:12:23,556 --> 00:12:23,556
e

17099
00:12:23,556 --> 00:12:25,828
planting pinwheels and it reall

17100
00:12:25,828 --> 00:12:25,828
y

17101
00:12:25,828 --> 00:12:27,898
is a community wide collective

17102
00:12:27,898 --> 00:12:27,898


17103
00:12:27,898 --> 00:12:29,094
effort because we all play a

17104
00:12:29,094 --> 00:12:35,698
role, wis providing a

17105
00:12:35,698 --> 00:12:35,742
sa and supportive

17106
00:12:35,742 --> 00:12:37,032
out-of-school time provider to

17107
00:12:37,032 --> 00:12:37,032


17108
00:12:37,032 --> 00:12:39,072
an individual and the children'

17109
00:12:39,072 --> 00:12:39,072
s

17110
00:12:39,072 --> 00:12:40,580
trust of alachua county in

17111
00:12:40,580 --> 00:12:41,804
supporting our children and

17112
00:12:41,804 --> 00:12:58,649
families absolute the county.

17113
00:12:58,649 --> 00:13:19,182
>> mr. Mayor, we have 2026-198,

17114
00:13:19,182 --> 00:13:19,182


17115
00:13:19,182 --> 00:13:27,147
pray then play day.

17116
00:13:27,147 --> 00:13:28,950
>> mayor: okay.

17117
00:13:28,950 --> 00:13:30,110
mr. Sweger, do you have this

17118
00:13:30,110 --> 00:13:30,110
one?

17119
00:13:30,110 --> 00:13:33,161
I'm sorry.

17120
00:13:33,161 --> 00:13:34,159
all right.

17121
00:13:34,159 --> 00:13:35,792
whereas, individuals and

17122
00:13:35,792 --> 00:13:36,890
families thrive when think com

17123
00:13:36,890 --> 00:13:36,890
e

17124
00:13:36,890 --> 00:13:38,862
together in unity, community a

17125
00:13:38,862 --> 00:13:38,862
nd

17126
00:13:38,862 --> 00:13:41,266
harmony to engage in wholesome

17127
00:13:41,266 --> 00:13:41,266


17128
00:13:41,266 --> 00:13:41,266
fellowship.

17129
00:13:41,266 --> 00:13:43,178
whereas the strength of a city

17130
00:13:43,178 --> 00:13:43,178


17131
00:13:43,178 --> 00:13:45,404
lies in how well the residents

17132
00:13:45,404 --> 00:13:45,404


17133
00:13:45,404 --> 00:13:46,538
collaborate and share positive

17134
00:13:46,538 --> 00:13:46,538


17135
00:13:46,538 --> 00:13:48,068
interactions, commonalities and

17136
00:13:48,068 --> 00:13:48,068


17137
00:13:48,068 --> 00:13:48,068
bonds.

17138
00:13:48,068 --> 00:13:51,208
whereas, pray, then play day I

17139
00:13:51,208 --> 00:13:51,208
s

17140
00:13:51,208 --> 00:13:52,776
a significant occasion dedicated

17141
00:13:52,776 --> 00:13:52,776


17142
00:13:52,776 --> 00:13:54,508
to encouraging godly reflectio

17143
00:13:54,508 --> 00:13:54,508
n

17144
00:13:54,508 --> 00:13:56,142
followed by joyful community

17145
00:13:56,142 --> 00:13:56,142
engagement.

17146
00:13:56,142 --> 00:13:58,756
whereas, this event promotes

17147
00:13:58,756 --> 00:14:00,424
peace, togetherness and holistic

17148
00:14:00,424 --> 00:14:00,424


17149
00:14:00,424 --> 00:14:01,125
well-being through

17150
00:14:01,125 --> 00:14:02,586
christ-centered prayer and

17151
00:14:02,586 --> 00:14:03,894
recreational activities to bring

17152
00:14:03,894 --> 00:14:03,894


17153
00:14:03,894 --> 00:14:05,520
different people of all races,

17154
00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:05,520


17155
00:14:05,520 --> 00:14:08,156
genders and socioeconomic

17156
00:14:08,156 --> 00:14:09,621
statuses to one accord.

17157
00:14:09,621 --> 00:14:11,222
whereas the observance of pray

17158
00:14:11,222 --> 00:14:11,222


17159
00:14:11,222 --> 00:14:12,965
then play day serves as a

17160
00:14:12,965 --> 00:14:14,971
purposeful opportunity for

17161
00:14:14,971 --> 00:14:16,466
individual families to connect

17162
00:14:16,466 --> 00:14:16,466


17163
00:14:16,466 --> 00:14:17,702
and celebrate their shared

17164
00:14:17,702 --> 00:14:20,206
values, beliefs and ideologies.

17165
00:14:20,206 --> 00:14:20,206


17166
00:14:20,206 --> 00:14:22,272
I harvey l. Ward jr. By the

17167
00:14:22,272 --> 00:14:25,688
authority vested in me as the

17168
00:14:25,688 --> 00:14:28,210
mayor of city of gainesville,

17169
00:14:28,210 --> 00:14:29,948
florida as pray then play day

17170
00:14:29,948 --> 00:14:31,929
and invite all our neighbors t

17171
00:14:31,929 --> 00:14:31,929
o

17172
00:14:31,929 --> 00:14:34,090
join me in recognizing this

17173
00:14:34,090 --> 00:14:34,848
special day.

17174
00:14:34,848 --> 00:14:36,824
I have where unto set my hand

17175
00:14:36,824 --> 00:14:40,222
and cause to be affixed this t

17176
00:14:40,222 --> 00:14:40,222
he

17177
00:14:40,222 --> 00:14:43,351
official seal of the city of

17178
00:14:43,351 --> 00:14:44,058
gainesville, florida, the 11th

17179
00:14:44,058 --> 00:14:44,058


17180
00:14:44,058 --> 00:14:45,566
day of march, 2026.

17181
00:14:45,566 --> 00:14:49,195
set that aside.

17182
00:14:49,195 --> 00:14:52,268
>> mr. Mayor, we have 2026-200.

17183
00:14:52,268 --> 00:14:52,268


17184
00:14:52,268 --> 00:14:54,870
spring migration season.

17185
00:14:54,870 --> 00:14:55,568
>> mayor: all right.

17186
00:14:55,568 --> 00:14:56,634
who's got this one?

17187
00:14:56,634 --> 00:15:09,937
come on up.

17188
00:15:09,937 --> 00:15:16,228
whereas each spring, millions o

17189
00:15:16,228 --> 00:15:16,228
f

17190
00:15:16,228 --> 00:15:18,534
migratory birds travel thousan

17191
00:15:18,534 --> 00:15:18,534
ds

17192
00:15:18,534 --> 00:15:20,266
of miles publish flashes of

17193
00:15:20,266 --> 00:15:21,702
color and song through

17194
00:15:21,702 --> 00:15:23,238
gainesville as they journey

17195
00:15:23,238 --> 00:15:24,333
between wintering and breeding

17196
00:15:24,333 --> 00:15:24,333


17197
00:15:24,333 --> 00:15:24,333
grounds.

17198
00:15:24,333 --> 00:15:27,408
whereas gainesville's birding

17199
00:15:27,408 --> 00:15:29,642
community and parks, forests a

17200
00:15:29,642 --> 00:15:29,642
nd

17201
00:15:29,642 --> 00:15:32,550
wetlands make palm point,

17202
00:15:32,550 --> 00:15:35,624
sweetwater park and l loblolly

17203
00:15:35,624 --> 00:15:35,624


17204
00:15:35,624 --> 00:15:37,411
among some of the best birding

17205
00:15:37,411 --> 00:15:37,411


17206
00:15:37,411 --> 00:15:38,353
locations in florida.

17207
00:15:38,353 --> 00:15:41,004
whereas, an observant may catch

17208
00:15:41,004 --> 00:15:41,004


17209
00:15:41,004 --> 00:15:50,095
the yellow of a prothontory, t

17210
00:15:50,095 --> 00:15:50,095
he

17211
00:15:50,095 --> 00:15:56,004
inindigo bunting or standigger

17212
00:15:56,004 --> 00:15:56,766
as

17213
00:15:56,766 --> 00:15:58,102
they because in trees and

17214
00:15:58,102 --> 00:15:58,102
wetlands.

17215
00:15:58,102 --> 00:16:00,974
students and nature lovers

17216
00:16:00,974 --> 00:16:01,808
throughout gainesville celebrate

17217
00:16:01,808 --> 00:16:01,808


17218
00:16:01,808 --> 00:16:04,342
the fleeting season stepping

17219
00:16:04,342 --> 00:16:05,642
outdoors to listen for bird

17220
00:16:05,642 --> 00:16:07,048
association arn watch the tree

17221
00:16:07,048 --> 00:16:07,048


17222
00:16:07,048 --> 00:16:08,950
tops for passing migrants.

17223
00:16:08,950 --> 00:16:12,618
whereas, as a city known for

17224
00:16:12,618 --> 00:16:14,330
welcoming new neighbors around

17225
00:16:14,330 --> 00:16:14,330


17226
00:16:14,330 --> 00:16:15,092
the world, gainesville also

17227
00:16:15,092 --> 00:16:16,686
welcomes the arrival of these

17228
00:16:16,686 --> 00:16:18,097
seasonal migrants who briefly

17229
00:16:18,097 --> 00:16:19,426
call our parks, wetlands and

17230
00:16:19,426 --> 00:16:21,422
forests home each spring.

17231
00:16:21,422 --> 00:16:23,390
therefore, I harvey l. Ward jr.

17232
00:16:23,390 --> 00:16:24,803
y the authority vested in me a

17233
00:16:24,803 --> 00:16:24,803
s

17234
00:16:24,803 --> 00:16:26,822
mayor of the city of gainesville

17235
00:16:26,822 --> 00:16:26,822


17236
00:16:26,822 --> 00:16:29,169
hereby appoint march 15 through

17237
00:16:29,169 --> 00:16:29,169


17238
00:16:29,169 --> 00:16:31,731
april 15, 2026 as spring

17239
00:16:31,731 --> 00:16:32,564
migration season in the city of

17240
00:16:32,564 --> 00:16:32,564


17241
00:16:32,564 --> 00:16:33,773
gainesville and invite all our

17242
00:16:33,773 --> 00:16:33,773


17243
00:16:33,773 --> 00:16:36,406
neighbors to inveto me in

17244
00:16:36,406 --> 00:16:37,407
stepping outside and watching

17245
00:16:37,407 --> 00:16:39,171
for the flashes of red, yellow,

17246
00:16:39,171 --> 00:16:39,171


17247
00:16:39,171 --> 00:16:41,349
blue and black that mark this

17248
00:16:41,349 --> 00:16:43,088
remarkable season of migration.

17249
00:16:43,088 --> 00:16:43,088


17250
00:16:43,088 --> 00:16:44,649
I have hereunto set my hand and

17251
00:16:44,649 --> 00:16:44,649


17252
00:16:44,649 --> 00:16:49,119
cause to be affixed the officia

17253
00:16:49,119 --> 00:16:49,119
l

17254
00:16:49,119 --> 00:16:52,723
seal of the city of gainesville

17255
00:16:52,723 --> 00:16:52,723
,

17256
00:16:52,723 --> 00:16:52,723
florida.

17257
00:16:52,723 --> 00:16:54,122
if you want to say a few words

17258
00:16:54,122 --> 00:16:54,122
.

17259
00:16:54,122 --> 00:16:55,052
>> thank you,mayor,

17260
00:16:55,052 --> 00:16:55,994
commissioner, for recognizing

17261
00:16:55,994 --> 00:16:57,428
birds and nature and

17262
00:16:57,428 --> 00:17:01,898
conservation here in alachua g

17263
00:17:01,898 --> 00:17:01,898
ainesville.

17264
00:17:01,898 --> 00:17:04,058
we are so lucky to have so man

17265
00:17:04,058 --> 00:17:04,058
y

17266
00:17:04,058 --> 00:17:05,154
preserves, so many parks

17267
00:17:05,154 --> 00:17:07,068
throughout the area.

17268
00:17:07,068 --> 00:17:09,339
and it's really drawn attention

17269
00:17:09,339 --> 00:17:09,339


17270
00:17:09,339 --> 00:17:10,304
to the value that we place in

17271
00:17:10,304 --> 00:17:12,410
nature here in this community.

17272
00:17:12,410 --> 00:17:12,410


17273
00:17:12,410 --> 00:17:14,274
I want to give a shout-out to

17274
00:17:14,274 --> 00:17:17,985
sweetwater wetlands park and t

17275
00:17:17,985 --> 00:17:17,985
he

17276
00:17:17,985 --> 00:17:18,844
wonderful habitat that it

17277
00:17:18,844 --> 00:17:21,682
provides to wildlife, but also

17278
00:17:21,682 --> 00:17:21,919
a

17279
00:17:21,919 --> 00:17:25,189
great venue for environmental

17280
00:17:25,189 --> 00:17:27,728
education and passive

17281
00:17:27,728 --> 00:17:27,728
recreation.

17282
00:17:27,728 --> 00:17:29,970
and your may be surprised to

17283
00:17:29,970 --> 00:17:32,966
know that sweetwater just in I

17284
00:17:32,966 --> 00:17:32,966
ts

17285
00:17:32,966 --> 00:17:34,434
short 10 years being open to t

17286
00:17:34,434 --> 00:17:34,434
he

17287
00:17:34,434 --> 00:17:36,127
public has risen to the very t

17288
00:17:36,127 --> 00:17:36,127
op

17289
00:17:36,127 --> 00:17:39,634
in popularity of birding hot

17290
00:17:39,634 --> 00:17:41,242
spots in the state of florida.

17291
00:17:41,242 --> 00:17:41,242


17292
00:17:41,242 --> 00:17:44,284
out of over 5,000 it's in the

17293
00:17:44,284 --> 00:17:46,444
top 10 now which is phenomenal.

17294
00:17:46,444 --> 00:17:46,444


17295
00:17:46,444 --> 00:17:47,542
something even more phenomenal

17296
00:17:47,542 --> 00:17:47,542


17297
00:17:47,542 --> 00:17:50,043
about sweetwater, last year the

17298
00:17:50,043 --> 00:17:50,043


17299
00:17:50,043 --> 00:17:52,042
bird conservancy just added

17300
00:17:52,042 --> 00:17:53,493
sweetwater to its list of the

17301
00:17:53,493 --> 00:17:55,955
top 15 most recommended birding

17302
00:17:55,955 --> 00:17:55,955


17303
00:17:55,955 --> 00:17:58,483
places to go in the entire

17304
00:17:58,483 --> 00:17:59,560
united states.

17305
00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:00,569
so that's amazing.

17306
00:18:00,569 --> 00:18:02,674
and so what that translates int

17307
00:18:02,674 --> 00:18:02,674
o

17308
00:18:02,674 --> 00:18:04,401
is it shows that gainesville,

17309
00:18:04,401 --> 00:18:06,068
alachua county is a place where

17310
00:18:06,068 --> 00:18:06,068


17311
00:18:06,068 --> 00:18:08,338
we value our nature, where we

17312
00:18:08,338 --> 00:18:09,399
value conservation and wildlif

17313
00:18:09,399 --> 00:18:09,399
e

17314
00:18:09,399 --> 00:18:12,570
and it also translates into an

17315
00:18:12,570 --> 00:18:12,570


17316
00:18:12,570 --> 00:18:14,671
untold amount of ecotourism

17317
00:18:14,671 --> 00:18:16,080
dollars for the things that we

17318
00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:16,080


17319
00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:16,080
value.

17320
00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:18,711
so thank you very much for thi

17321
00:18:18,711 --> 00:18:18,711
s.

17322
00:18:18,711 --> 00:18:33,154
>> mayor: thank you.

17323
00:18:33,154 --> 00:18:50,141
>> mr. Mayor, we are on to

17324
00:18:50,141 --> 00:18:53,574
2026-201, national public heal

17325
00:18:53,574 --> 00:18:53,574
th

17326
00:18:53,574 --> 00:19:03,246
week --

17327
00:19:03,246 --> 00:19:03,246
[inaudible]

17328
00:19:03,246 --> 00:19:06,504
>> mayor: all right.

17329
00:19:06,504 --> 00:19:08,161
this is national public health

17330
00:19:08,161 --> 00:19:08,161


17331
00:19:08,161 --> 00:19:08,161
week.

17332
00:19:08,161 --> 00:19:27,715
pwhereas the week of april 6th

17333
00:19:27,715 --> 00:19:27,715
,

17334
00:19:27,715 --> 00:19:28,777
2026 is national public health

17335
00:19:28,777 --> 00:19:28,777


17336
00:19:28,777 --> 00:19:30,219
week and the theme is ready,

17337
00:19:30,219 --> 00:19:31,446
set, action.

17338
00:19:31,446 --> 00:19:32,972
highlighting that public health

17339
00:19:32,972 --> 00:19:32,972


17340
00:19:32,972 --> 00:19:34,319
actions occurring through

17341
00:19:34,319 --> 00:19:35,817
scientific conferees,

17342
00:19:35,817 --> 00:19:37,261
legislation and community

17343
00:19:37,261 --> 00:19:39,218
initiatives have significantly

17344
00:19:39,218 --> 00:19:39,218


17345
00:19:39,218 --> 00:19:40,890
improved the health of all

17346
00:19:40,890 --> 00:19:43,628
americans since its inception I

17347
00:19:43,628 --> 00:19:43,628
n

17348
00:19:43,628 --> 00:19:43,628
1994.

17349
00:19:43,628 --> 00:19:46,229
and whereas, racial and ethnic

17350
00:19:46,229 --> 00:19:46,229


17351
00:19:46,229 --> 00:19:47,273
minority populations of the

17352
00:19:47,273 --> 00:19:48,336
united states continue to

17353
00:19:48,336 --> 00:19:50,038
experience disparities in the

17354
00:19:50,038 --> 00:19:51,673
burden of illness and deaths a

17355
00:19:51,673 --> 00:19:51,673
s

17356
00:19:51,673 --> 00:19:52,603
compared with the entire

17357
00:19:52,603 --> 00:19:54,940
population of the united states

17358
00:19:54,940 --> 00:19:54,940
.

17359
00:19:54,940 --> 00:19:56,401
and whereas, a person's health

17360
00:19:56,401 --> 00:19:56,401


17361
00:19:56,401 --> 00:19:58,949
status can differ drastically b

17362
00:19:58,949 --> 00:19:58,949
y

17363
00:19:58,949 --> 00:20:00,443
zip code due to differences in

17364
00:20:00,443 --> 00:20:00,443


17365
00:20:00,443 --> 00:20:02,118
environment quality, community

17366
00:20:02,118 --> 00:20:02,118


17367
00:20:02,118 --> 00:20:04,081
context, access to healthy foo

17368
00:20:04,081 --> 00:20:04,081
d,

17369
00:20:04,081 --> 00:20:05,714
access to education, and acces

17370
00:20:05,714 --> 00:20:05,714
s

17371
00:20:05,714 --> 00:20:07,061
to healthcare.

17372
00:20:07,061 --> 00:20:08,457
and whereas, efforts to

17373
00:20:08,457 --> 00:20:10,121
adequately support public

17374
00:20:10,121 --> 00:20:10,921
health, the prevention of

17375
00:20:10,921 --> 00:20:13,863
disease and the injury continue

17376
00:20:13,863 --> 00:20:13,863


17377
00:20:13,863 --> 00:20:15,330
to transform a health system

17378
00:20:15,330 --> 00:20:17,124
focused on treating illness and

17379
00:20:17,124 --> 00:20:17,124


17380
00:20:17,124 --> 00:20:19,343
to a health system focused on

17381
00:20:19,343 --> 00:20:21,554
preventing disease, injury and

17382
00:20:21,554 --> 00:20:21,554


17383
00:20:21,554 --> 00:20:23,596
promoting wellness.

17384
00:20:23,596 --> 00:20:25,773
therefore, I harvey l. Ward jr.

17385
00:20:25,773 --> 00:20:25,773


17386
00:20:25,773 --> 00:20:26,847
as mayor of the city of

17387
00:20:26,847 --> 00:20:28,504
gainesville proclaim april 6th

17388
00:20:28,504 --> 00:20:28,504


17389
00:20:28,504 --> 00:20:29,907
through 12th at national

17390
00:20:29,907 --> 00:20:31,007
public health week in the city

17391
00:20:31,007 --> 00:20:31,007


17392
00:20:31,007 --> 00:20:31,812
of gainesville and invite all

17393
00:20:31,812 --> 00:20:33,448
our neighbors to join me in

17394
00:20:33,448 --> 00:20:34,744
observing this week by helping

17395
00:20:34,744 --> 00:20:34,744


17396
00:20:34,744 --> 00:20:36,709
our families, friends, neighbo

17397
00:20:36,709 --> 00:20:36,709
rs

17398
00:20:36,709 --> 00:20:39,488
and co-workers and leaders to

17399
00:20:39,488 --> 00:20:42,115
recognize the contribution of

17400
00:20:42,115 --> 00:20:44,049
scientists, loyal city and

17401
00:20:44,049 --> 00:20:45,121
community activists including

17402
00:20:45,121 --> 00:20:46,455
the public health workers as t

17403
00:20:46,455 --> 00:20:46,455
he

17404
00:20:46,455 --> 00:20:48,762
theme states ready, set, actio

17405
00:20:48,762 --> 00:20:48,762
n.

17406
00:20:48,762 --> 00:20:51,194
in witness whereafter I have

17407
00:20:51,194 --> 00:20:54,531
here unto caused to be affixed

17408
00:20:54,531 --> 00:20:54,531


17409
00:20:54,531 --> 00:20:57,397
the official seal of the city

17410
00:20:57,397 --> 00:20:57,397
of

17411
00:20:57,397 --> 00:21:00,933
gainesville, florida.

17412
00:21:00,933 --> 00:21:11,079
>> on behalf of the beta for

17413
00:21:11,079 --> 00:21:13,318
recognizing public health and

17414
00:21:13,318 --> 00:21:16,551
what it has on our communities

17415
00:21:16,551 --> 00:21:16,551
.

17416
00:21:16,551 --> 00:21:19,220
and thank you for proclaiming

17417
00:21:19,220 --> 00:21:20,828
national public health week.

17418
00:21:20,828 --> 00:21:34,545
thank you.

17419
00:21:34,545 --> 00:21:42,409
>> mr. Mayor, we have 2026-204.

17420
00:21:42,409 --> 00:21:42,409


17421
00:21:42,409 --> 00:21:44,811
s landscape architecture

17422
00:21:44,811 --> 00:21:44,811
month.

17423
00:21:44,811 --> 00:21:46,518
>> mayor: all right.

17424
00:21:46,518 --> 00:21:52,953
who's got this wurp?

17425
00:21:52,953 --> 00:21:54,589
whereas landscape architecture

17426
00:21:54,589 --> 00:21:54,589


17427
00:21:54,589 --> 00:21:56,006
encompasses the analysis,

17428
00:21:56,006 --> 00:21:58,526
planning, design and stewardship

17429
00:21:58,526 --> 00:21:58,526


17430
00:21:58,526 --> 00:21:59,857
of the natural and built

17431
00:21:59,857 --> 00:22:01,191
environment, translating visio

17432
00:22:01,191 --> 00:22:01,191
n

17433
00:22:01,191 --> 00:22:03,029
into action to shape places that

17434
00:22:03,029 --> 00:22:03,029


17435
00:22:03,029 --> 00:22:05,655
are healthy, safe and resilient

17436
00:22:05,655 --> 00:22:05,655
.

17437
00:22:05,655 --> 00:22:06,549
landscape architecture is a

17438
00:22:06,549 --> 00:22:08,553
regulated profession in all 50

17439
00:22:08,553 --> 00:22:08,553


17440
00:22:08,553 --> 00:22:09,570
states and the department of

17441
00:22:09,570 --> 00:22:10,675
business and professional

17442
00:22:10,675 --> 00:22:11,975
regulation ensures the highest

17443
00:22:11,975 --> 00:22:11,975


17444
00:22:11,975 --> 00:22:14,808
standards of professional

17445
00:22:14,808 --> 00:22:16,046
competence through education,

17446
00:22:16,046 --> 00:22:17,877
experience and examination

17447
00:22:17,877 --> 00:22:17,877
requirements.

17448
00:22:17,877 --> 00:22:20,180
whereas, during april, landsca

17449
00:22:20,180 --> 00:22:20,180
pe

17450
00:22:20,180 --> 00:22:21,387
architecture month is celebrated

17451
00:22:21,387 --> 00:22:21,387


17452
00:22:21,387 --> 00:22:23,469
under the theme landscape

17453
00:22:23,469 --> 00:22:25,558
architecture in action, where w

17454
00:22:25,558 --> 00:22:25,558
e

17455
00:22:25,558 --> 00:22:27,433
recognize the tangible impact

17456
00:22:27,433 --> 00:22:30,459
this has on parks, streetscape

17457
00:22:30,459 --> 00:22:30,459
s,

17458
00:22:30,459 --> 00:22:32,227
campuses across urban, suburba

17459
00:22:32,227 --> 00:22:32,227
n

17460
00:22:32,227 --> 00:22:33,329
and rural communities.

17461
00:22:33,329 --> 00:22:35,601
and whereas, the license to

17462
00:22:35,601 --> 00:22:37,427
practice landscape architecture

17463
00:22:37,427 --> 00:22:37,427


17464
00:22:37,427 --> 00:22:39,336
is a critical safeguard for

17465
00:22:39,336 --> 00:22:40,662
public health, safety and

17466
00:22:40,662 --> 00:22:44,810
welfare ensuring outdoor

17467
00:22:44,810 --> 00:22:48,544
environments are designed with

17468
00:22:48,544 --> 00:22:48,544


17469
00:22:48,544 --> 00:22:50,281
technical rigor and ethical

17470
00:22:50,281 --> 00:22:50,281
responsibility.

17471
00:22:50,281 --> 00:22:53,395
whereas landscape architects a

17472
00:22:53,395 --> 00:22:53,395
re

17473
00:22:53,395 --> 00:22:57,011
nuniquely qualified through

17474
00:22:57,011 --> 00:22:58,293
resilient green infrastructure

17475
00:22:58,293 --> 00:22:58,293


17476
00:22:58,293 --> 00:23:00,495
design strategies that restore

17477
00:23:00,495 --> 00:23:00,495


17478
00:23:00,495 --> 00:23:02,163
ecosystems and mitigate

17479
00:23:02,163 --> 00:23:03,688
environmental hazards and

17480
00:23:03,688 --> 00:23:05,271
decrease the long-term disaste

17481
00:23:05,271 --> 00:23:05,271
r

17482
00:23:05,271 --> 00:23:06,871
recovery on state and local

17483
00:23:06,871 --> 00:23:06,871
governments.

17484
00:23:06,871 --> 00:23:08,630
whereas the economy of the city

17485
00:23:08,630 --> 00:23:08,630


17486
00:23:08,630 --> 00:23:10,205
of gainesville is strengthened

17487
00:23:10,205 --> 00:23:10,205


17488
00:23:10,205 --> 00:23:11,577
by the work of these landscape

17489
00:23:11,577 --> 00:23:11,577


17490
00:23:11,577 --> 00:23:14,969
architects and the accredited a

17491
00:23:14,969 --> 00:23:14,969
t

17492
00:23:14,969 --> 00:23:16,536
florida international universit

17493
00:23:16,536 --> 00:23:16,536
y

17494
00:23:16,536 --> 00:23:17,193
and the university of florida

17495
00:23:17,193 --> 00:23:18,907
who together foster tourism,

17496
00:23:18,907 --> 00:23:19,874
economic development and

17497
00:23:19,874 --> 00:23:20,637
environmental protection.

17498
00:23:20,637 --> 00:23:23,854
I harvey l. Ward jr. As

17499
00:23:23,854 --> 00:23:30,100
authority of the mayor of

17500
00:23:30,100 --> 00:23:30,964
gainesville, florida and invite

17501
00:23:30,964 --> 00:23:30,964


17502
00:23:30,964 --> 00:23:32,821
all our neighbors to join me I

17503
00:23:32,821 --> 00:23:32,821
n

17504
00:23:32,821 --> 00:23:33,765
celebrating landscape

17505
00:23:33,765 --> 00:23:35,280
architecture in action and the

17506
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:35,280


17507
00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:39,027
essential role landscape  architects

17508
00:23:39,027 --> 00:23:39,651
architects play in the shaping

17509
00:23:39,651 --> 00:23:39,651


17510
00:23:39,651 --> 00:23:41,029
of resilient, safe environment

17511
00:23:41,029 --> 00:23:41,029
s.

17512
00:23:41,029 --> 00:23:42,963
I have hereunto set my hand and

17513
00:23:42,963 --> 00:23:42,963


17514
00:23:42,963 --> 00:23:44,401
caused to be affixed the

17515
00:23:44,401 --> 00:23:46,808
official seal of gainesville,

17516
00:23:46,808 --> 00:23:47,675
florida this 26th day of

17517
00:23:47,675 --> 00:23:50,734
march, 2026, harvey ward jr.,

17518
00:23:50,734 --> 00:23:50,734
mayor.

17519
00:23:50,734 --> 00:23:50,734
welcome.

17520
00:23:50,734 --> 00:23:54,144
>> you're all set.

17521
00:23:54,144 --> 00:23:56,663
if you want to hand those to

17522
00:23:56,663 --> 00:23:56,663
francisco.

17523
00:23:56,663 --> 00:24:01,887
>> mayor: I'll do that.

17524
00:24:01,887 --> 00:24:03,217
>> we'll make sure those get

17525
00:24:03,217 --> 00:24:11,757
where they need to go.

17526
00:24:11,757 --> 00:24:14,157
next mr. Mayor is the early

17527
00:24:14,157 --> 00:24:14,735
public comment.

17528
00:24:14,735 --> 00:24:15,943
and I don't believe -- no, we

17529
00:24:15,943 --> 00:24:15,943
do

17530
00:24:15,943 --> 00:24:17,231
not have anyone signed up for

17531
00:24:17,231 --> 00:24:19,027
early public comment.

17532
00:24:19,027 --> 00:24:21,479
so we are going to go on to our

17533
00:24:21,479 --> 00:24:21,479


17534
00:24:21,479 --> 00:24:23,273
first discussion item -- I'm

17535
00:24:23,273 --> 00:24:25,877
sorry, not discussion item, the

17536
00:24:25,877 --> 00:24:25,877


17537
00:24:25,877 --> 00:24:28,719
ordinance for the evening.

17538
00:24:28,719 --> 00:24:30,683
we have ordinance number

17539
00:24:30,683 --> 00:24:33,134
2025-998, an ordinance of the

17540
00:24:33,134 --> 00:24:33,679
city of gainesville, florida

17541
00:24:33,679 --> 00:24:35,623
amending the future land use m

17542
00:24:35,623 --> 00:24:35,623
ap

17543
00:24:35,623 --> 00:24:36,533
of the comprehensive plan by

17544
00:24:36,533 --> 00:24:37,887
changing the land use category

17545
00:24:37,887 --> 00:24:37,887


17546
00:24:37,887 --> 00:24:40,657
of approximately .64 acres of

17547
00:24:40,657 --> 00:24:42,626
property generally located at

17548
00:24:42,626 --> 00:24:45,031
the 800 block of east universit

17549
00:24:45,031 --> 00:24:45,031
y

17550
00:24:45,031 --> 00:24:46,459
avenue as more specifically

17551
00:24:46,459 --> 00:24:48,132
described in this ordinance fro

17552
00:24:48,132 --> 00:24:48,132
m

17553
00:24:48,132 --> 00:24:50,626
planned use district and mixed

17554
00:24:50,626 --> 00:24:50,626


17555
00:24:50,626 --> 00:24:53,269
use low intensity to mixed use

17556
00:24:53,269 --> 00:24:53,269


17557
00:24:53,269 --> 00:24:54,875
office residential, providing

17558
00:24:54,875 --> 00:24:56,071
directions to the city manager,

17559
00:24:56,071 --> 00:24:56,071


17560
00:24:56,071 --> 00:24:58,076
providing severability clause,

17561
00:24:58,076 --> 00:24:58,076


17562
00:24:58,076 --> 00:24:59,549
providing repealing clause and

17563
00:24:59,549 --> 00:24:59,549


17564
00:24:59,549 --> 00:25:02,880
providing an effective date.

17565
00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:03,526
>> mayor: very good.

17566
00:25:03,526 --> 00:25:06,283
thank you for your patience.

17567
00:25:06,283 --> 00:25:07,231
>> good evening, mr. Mayor and

17568
00:25:07,231 --> 00:25:07,231


17569
00:25:07,231 --> 00:25:07,231
commission.

17570
00:25:07,231 --> 00:25:14,279
my name is ari rabbinvich, thi

17571
00:25:14,279 --> 00:25:14,279
s

17572
00:25:14,279 --> 00:25:16,703
is the 800 block east universit

17573
00:25:16,703 --> 00:25:16,703
y

17574
00:25:16,703 --> 00:25:22,613
project item ld25-000143.

17575
00:25:22,613 --> 00:25:30,004
so the parcel seen here located

17576
00:25:30,004 --> 00:25:33,017
n the 800 block of east

17577
00:25:33,017 --> 00:25:35,735
university avenue, the current

17578
00:25:35,735 --> 00:25:35,735


17579
00:25:35,735 --> 00:25:37,683
land use designation is planned

17580
00:25:37,683 --> 00:25:37,683


17581
00:25:37,683 --> 00:25:39,983
use district and mixed use low

17582
00:25:39,983 --> 00:25:39,983


17583
00:25:39,983 --> 00:25:41,387
intensity with a proposed

17584
00:25:41,387 --> 00:25:43,021
designation of mixed use offic

17585
00:25:43,021 --> 00:25:43,021
e

17586
00:25:43,021 --> 00:25:43,021
residential.

17587
00:25:43,021 --> 00:25:45,990
the planned use district land

17588
00:25:45,990 --> 00:25:49,353
use designation corresponded t

17589
00:25:49,353 --> 00:25:49,353
o

17590
00:25:49,353 --> 00:25:51,055
planned ordinance which existed

17591
00:25:51,055 --> 00:25:51,055


17592
00:25:51,055 --> 00:25:52,692
to enable the restoration and

17593
00:25:52,692 --> 00:25:54,323
rehabilitation of the former b

17594
00:25:54,323 --> 00:25:54,323
ed

17595
00:25:54,323 --> 00:25:55,397
and breakfast use that was at

17596
00:25:55,397 --> 00:25:57,033
the property and allowed for

17597
00:25:57,033 --> 00:25:58,805
uses that were consistent with

17598
00:25:58,805 --> 00:25:58,805


17599
00:25:58,805 --> 00:26:02,573
those enabled by the former 02

17600
00:26:02,573 --> 00:26:02,573


17601
00:26:02,573 --> 00:26:03,534
general office zoning

17602
00:26:03,534 --> 00:26:03,534
designation.

17603
00:26:03,534 --> 00:26:08,107
the requested designation ofmor

17604
00:26:08,107 --> 00:26:10,813
e of mor

17605
00:26:10,813 --> 00:26:11,915
would establish a range of

17606
00:26:11,915 --> 00:26:14,317
allowable uses and development

17607
00:26:14,317 --> 00:26:14,317


17608
00:26:14,317 --> 00:26:15,210
consistent with the surrounding

17609
00:26:15,210 --> 00:26:15,210


17610
00:26:15,210 --> 00:26:17,059
area which is a mix of uses

17611
00:26:17,059 --> 00:26:19,323
including offices, residences,

17612
00:26:19,323 --> 00:26:19,323


17613
00:26:19,323 --> 00:26:20,864
retail, commercial and civic

17614
00:26:20,864 --> 00:26:20,864
uses.

17615
00:26:20,864 --> 00:26:25,256
so here's a map just showing t

17616
00:26:25,256 --> 00:26:25,256
he

17617
00:26:25,256 --> 00:26:27,561
current land uses for the

17618
00:26:27,561 --> 00:26:28,577
subject parcel as compared to

17619
00:26:28,577 --> 00:26:30,263
the surrounding area.

17620
00:26:30,263 --> 00:26:36,167
you see largely mor.

17621
00:26:36,167 --> 00:26:38,045
versus the proposed land use a

17622
00:26:38,045 --> 00:26:38,045
s

17623
00:26:38,045 --> 00:26:40,245
requested under the application

17624
00:26:40,245 --> 00:26:40,245
.

17625
00:26:40,245 --> 00:26:43,851
so looking at the surrounding

17626
00:26:43,851 --> 00:26:46,145
uses and land use designations

17627
00:26:46,145 --> 00:26:46,145


17628
00:26:46,145 --> 00:26:48,301
for the parcels nearby, you can

17629
00:26:48,301 --> 00:26:48,301


17630
00:26:48,301 --> 00:26:51,086
see that the majority of the --

17631
00:26:51,086 --> 00:26:51,086


17632
00:26:51,086 --> 00:26:53,121
or all of the abutting parcels

17633
00:26:53,121 --> 00:26:53,121


17634
00:26:53,121 --> 00:26:56,095
are designated mixed use offic

17635
00:26:56,095 --> 00:26:56,095
e

17636
00:26:56,095 --> 00:26:58,835
residential with existing uses

17637
00:26:58,835 --> 00:26:58,835


17638
00:26:58,835 --> 00:26:59,815
that are primarily residential

17639
00:26:59,815 --> 00:26:59,815


17640
00:26:59,815 --> 00:27:00,934
and multi-family and

17641
00:27:00,934 --> 00:27:00,934
single-family.

17642
00:27:00,934 --> 00:27:08,671
and so here is an image that

17643
00:27:08,671 --> 00:27:11,607
illustrates what the area looks

17644
00:27:11,607 --> 00:27:11,607


17645
00:27:11,607 --> 00:27:11,607
like.

17646
00:27:11,607 --> 00:27:14,219
it's a total of approximately 73

17647
00:27:14,219 --> 00:27:16,115
acres of land designated mor

17648
00:27:16,115 --> 00:27:19,183
in this area before you hit

17649
00:27:19,183 --> 00:27:24,655
waldo road to the east.

17650
00:27:24,655 --> 00:27:28,051
so this is a property that is

17651
00:27:28,051 --> 00:27:30,031
within an historic district.

17652
00:27:30,031 --> 00:27:33,110
the designation pud existed to

17653
00:27:33,110 --> 00:27:33,110


17654
00:27:33,110 --> 00:27:39,303
restore a former bed &

17655
00:27:39,303 --> 00:27:39,303
breakfast.

17656
00:27:39,303 --> 00:27:42,602
today it lies in the southeast

17657
00:27:42,602 --> 00:27:42,602


17658
00:27:42,602 --> 00:27:44,041
district and has one

17659
00:27:44,041 --> 00:27:45,243
contributing historic

17660
00:27:45,243 --> 00:27:46,443
distributing which is the

17661
00:27:46,443 --> 00:27:47,342
mccreary house.

17662
00:27:47,342 --> 00:27:48,979
the allowable uses per the pd

17663
00:27:48,979 --> 00:27:50,751
were those that were consistent

17664
00:27:50,751 --> 00:27:50,751


17665
00:27:50,751 --> 00:27:54,335
with the former 02 general

17666
00:27:54,335 --> 00:27:55,657
designation with factors like

17667
00:27:55,657 --> 00:27:56,755
setbacks and parking determine

17668
00:27:56,755 --> 00:27:56,755
d

17669
00:27:56,755 --> 00:27:58,253
by the requirements of that

17670
00:27:58,253 --> 00:28:04,827
former use category.

17671
00:28:04,827 --> 00:28:07,979
so regarding historic

17672
00:28:07,979 --> 00:28:09,275
preservation, the historic

17673
00:28:09,275 --> 00:28:09,891
preservation officer has

17674
00:28:09,891 --> 00:28:10,733
provided some comments on this

17675
00:28:10,733 --> 00:28:10,733


17676
00:28:10,733 --> 00:28:10,733
project.

17677
00:28:10,733 --> 00:28:13,037
she left the comment that land

17678
00:28:13,037 --> 00:28:13,037


17679
00:28:13,037 --> 00:28:14,567
uses which would allow for

17680
00:28:14,567 --> 00:28:15,971
additional infill that adds to

17681
00:28:15,971 --> 00:28:15,971


17682
00:28:15,971 --> 00:28:17,304
the character of the district I

17683
00:28:17,304 --> 00:28:17,304
s

17684
00:28:17,304 --> 00:28:17,304
appropriate.

17685
00:28:17,304 --> 00:28:19,941
additionally, any new

17686
00:28:19,941 --> 00:28:21,575
development that would occur

17687
00:28:21,575 --> 00:28:23,445
within any historic district

17688
00:28:23,445 --> 00:28:24,615
would be subject to review for

17689
00:28:24,615 --> 00:28:24,615


17690
00:28:24,615 --> 00:28:26,918
certificates of appropriateness

17691
00:28:26,918 --> 00:28:26,918


17692
00:28:26,918 --> 00:28:28,049
per land development code

17693
00:28:28,049 --> 00:28:34,153
section 30-4.28 which regulate

17694
00:28:34,153 --> 00:28:34,153


17695
00:28:34,153 --> 00:28:35,965
design and the subject

17696
00:28:35,965 --> 00:28:37,760
properties in the surrounding

17697
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:37,760
area.

17698
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:39,491
this is a land use change which

17699
00:28:39,491 --> 00:28:39,491


17700
00:28:39,491 --> 00:28:41,469
is subject to review against

17701
00:28:41,469 --> 00:28:43,235
the set of criteria defined by

17702
00:28:43,235 --> 00:28:43,235


17703
00:28:43,235 --> 00:28:44,273
the land development code.

17704
00:28:44,273 --> 00:28:45,534
we have conducted this review

17705
00:28:45,534 --> 00:28:46,939
and conclude that the criteria

17706
00:28:46,939 --> 00:28:46,939


17707
00:28:46,939 --> 00:28:48,705
of the code are met including

17708
00:28:48,705 --> 00:28:50,209
consistency with comprehensive

17709
00:28:50,209 --> 00:28:50,209


17710
00:28:50,209 --> 00:28:51,315
plan goals, policies and

17711
00:28:51,315 --> 00:28:52,873
objectives surrounding the

17712
00:28:52,873 --> 00:28:55,812
diversity of housing, retail a

17713
00:28:55,812 --> 00:28:55,812
nd

17714
00:28:55,812 --> 00:28:57,377
workplace choices encouraging a

17715
00:28:57,377 --> 00:28:57,377


17716
00:28:57,377 --> 00:28:59,981
mix of uses and discouraging

17717
00:28:59,981 --> 00:29:01,596
sprawl towards the periphery o

17718
00:29:01,596 --> 00:29:01,596
f

17719
00:29:01,596 --> 00:29:02,983
the city and compatibility with

17720
00:29:02,983 --> 00:29:02,983


17721
00:29:02,983 --> 00:29:04,125
scrownding land uses.

17722
00:29:04,125 --> 00:29:05,787
this would encourage a diverse

17723
00:29:05,787 --> 00:29:05,787


17724
00:29:05,787 --> 00:29:07,128
range ever uses consistent wit

17725
00:29:07,128 --> 00:29:07,128
h

17726
00:29:07,128 --> 00:29:08,422
what exists in the area today

17727
00:29:08,422 --> 00:29:10,457
and impacts on affordable

17728
00:29:10,457 --> 00:29:10,457
housing.

17729
00:29:10,457 --> 00:29:12,029
this project would enable

17730
00:29:12,029 --> 00:29:13,961
residential uses at the site

17731
00:29:13,961 --> 00:29:15,500
which is currently prohibited

17732
00:29:15,500 --> 00:29:17,266
under the planned development

17733
00:29:17,266 --> 00:29:18,766
and pud designation today.

17734
00:29:18,766 --> 00:29:20,637
so there may be impacts to

17735
00:29:20,637 --> 00:29:21,908
affordable housing in that thi

17736
00:29:21,908 --> 00:29:21,908
s

17737
00:29:21,908 --> 00:29:22,940
change would allow housing at

17738
00:29:22,940 --> 00:29:23,906
that site.

17739
00:29:23,906 --> 00:29:26,206
so with that, staff recommends

17740
00:29:26,206 --> 00:29:26,206


17741
00:29:26,206 --> 00:29:33,111
approval of ld25-000143.

17742
00:29:33,111 --> 00:29:35,100
we have a rezoning to follow I

17743
00:29:35,100 --> 00:29:35,100
f

17744
00:29:35,100 --> 00:29:35,714
you have any questions.

17745
00:29:35,714 --> 00:29:36,777
I don't know if the applicant I

17746
00:29:36,777 --> 00:29:36,777
s

17747
00:29:36,777 --> 00:29:39,457
here to speak on this item.

17748
00:29:39,457 --> 00:29:41,423
you can if you'd like to.

17749
00:29:41,423 --> 00:29:46,066
>> mayor: ocome on up,

17750
00:29:46,066 --> 00:29:48,737
mr. Sweger.

17751
00:29:48,737 --> 00:29:48,737
welcome.

17752
00:29:48,737 --> 00:29:49,675
>> good afternoon or evening,

17753
00:29:49,675 --> 00:29:51,070
mr. Mayor and commissioners.

17754
00:29:51,070 --> 00:29:52,701
I'm clay sweger.

17755
00:29:52,701 --> 00:29:53,909
glad to be here tonight.

17756
00:29:53,909 --> 00:29:55,433
this is a relative

17757
00:29:55,433 --> 00:29:56,399
administrative type of

17758
00:29:56,399 --> 00:29:57,405
consideration for you all

17759
00:29:57,405 --> 00:29:57,405
tonight.

17760
00:29:57,405 --> 00:30:00,688
the owners of this property

17761
00:30:00,688 --> 00:30:02,351
which includes the mccreary

17762
00:30:02,351 --> 00:30:04,715
house, one of the old victorian

17763
00:30:04,715 --> 00:30:04,715


17764
00:30:04,715 --> 00:30:06,929
homes on east university heavy

17765
00:30:06,929 --> 00:30:06,929


17766
00:30:06,929 --> 00:30:08,459
has purchased the property and

17767
00:30:08,459 --> 00:30:08,459


17768
00:30:08,459 --> 00:30:11,955
is putting significant into

17769
00:30:11,955 --> 00:30:13,301
revitalizing and bringing it

17770
00:30:13,301 --> 00:30:14,383
back to a bread of the mighty

17771
00:30:14,383 --> 00:30:15,691
which is very exciting.

17772
00:30:15,691 --> 00:30:16,995
but in the weeds on the planning

17773
00:30:16,995 --> 00:30:16,995


17774
00:30:16,995 --> 00:30:21,801
side it's an expired from the

17775
00:30:21,801 --> 00:30:23,669
1980s, that era of pds

17776
00:30:23,669 --> 00:30:26,733
doesn't have a reverter clause

17777
00:30:26,733 --> 00:30:26,733


17778
00:30:26,733 --> 00:30:29,269
so the pd expired and it doesn

17779
00:30:29,269 --> 00:30:29,269
't

17780
00:30:29,269 --> 00:30:30,737
go back to the office zoning

17781
00:30:30,737 --> 00:30:31,671
that it was before.

17782
00:30:31,671 --> 00:30:33,077
the action before you is to

17783
00:30:33,077 --> 00:30:34,509
address that issue on the land

17784
00:30:34,509 --> 00:30:34,509


17785
00:30:34,509 --> 00:30:36,811
use map to go to mor in the

17786
00:30:36,811 --> 00:30:39,653
zoning to u-4 which would allow

17787
00:30:39,653 --> 00:30:39,653


17788
00:30:39,653 --> 00:30:41,113
that bed & breakfast use.

17789
00:30:41,113 --> 00:30:42,697
but, of course, the analysis by

17790
00:30:42,697 --> 00:30:42,697


17791
00:30:42,697 --> 00:30:44,255
your staff was to consider all

17792
00:30:44,255 --> 00:30:44,255


17793
00:30:44,255 --> 00:30:46,787
uses in that area.

17794
00:30:46,787 --> 00:30:48,253
properties in essentially every

17795
00:30:48,253 --> 00:30:48,253


17796
00:30:48,253 --> 00:30:49,879
direction are u-4 for a block o

17797
00:30:49,879 --> 00:30:49,879
r

17798
00:30:49,879 --> 00:30:51,256
two, so it's very consistent

17799
00:30:51,256 --> 00:30:52,593
with the pattern.

17800
00:30:52,593 --> 00:30:54,231
this would allow that

17801
00:30:54,231 --> 00:30:56,299
revitalization of the historic

17802
00:30:56,299 --> 00:30:56,299


17803
00:30:56,299 --> 00:30:57,601
structure, which happy to say

17804
00:30:57,601 --> 00:30:58,865
that your historic preservatio

17805
00:30:58,865 --> 00:30:58,865
n

17806
00:30:58,865 --> 00:31:00,579
planner has been involved and

17807
00:31:00,579 --> 00:31:02,319
she's integral in the design a

17808
00:31:02,319 --> 00:31:02,319
nd

17809
00:31:02,319 --> 00:31:04,976
permitting of the improvements.

17810
00:31:04,976 --> 00:31:04,976


17811
00:31:04,976 --> 00:31:06,269
as you drive by there, you can

17812
00:31:06,269 --> 00:31:06,269


17813
00:31:06,269 --> 00:31:07,343
see them happening.

17814
00:31:07,343 --> 00:31:08,440
so thank you for consideration

17815
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:08,440


17816
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:09,053
on this.

17817
00:31:09,053 --> 00:31:10,187
if you have any questions for m

17818
00:31:10,187 --> 00:31:10,187
e

17819
00:31:10,187 --> 00:31:11,613
tonight, please let me know.

17820
00:31:11,613 --> 00:31:11,613
thank

17821
00:31:11,613 --> 00:31:13,338
>> mayor: very good.

17822
00:31:13,338 --> 00:31:15,448
thank you.

17823
00:31:15,448 --> 00:31:18,763
commissioner ingle.

17824
00:31:18,763 --> 00:31:20,385
>> so looking quickly at the

17825
00:31:20,385 --> 00:31:23,135
map, there's two old victorian

17826
00:31:23,135 --> 00:31:23,135


17827
00:31:23,135 --> 00:31:24,997
houses there, the mccreary

17828
00:31:24,997 --> 00:31:25,964
house and another one right

17829
00:31:25,964 --> 00:31:26,731
beside it.

17830
00:31:26,731 --> 00:31:27,595
>> yes, sir.

17831
00:31:27,595 --> 00:31:28,599
>> is this considering both of

17832
00:31:28,599 --> 00:31:28,599


17833
00:31:28,599 --> 00:31:28,599
those?

17834
00:31:28,599 --> 00:31:30,732
>> no, mr. Mayor.

17835
00:31:30,732 --> 00:31:32,871
it's just the one to the east.

17836
00:31:32,871 --> 00:31:32,871


17837
00:31:32,871 --> 00:31:34,313
>> okay.

17838
00:31:34,313 --> 00:31:35,077
>> the owner of the property to

17839
00:31:35,077 --> 00:31:35,077


17840
00:31:35,077 --> 00:31:36,709
the west, the other home was n

17841
00:31:36,709 --> 00:31:36,709
ot

17842
00:31:36,709 --> 00:31:38,818
interested in participating in

17843
00:31:38,818 --> 00:31:38,818


17844
00:31:38,818 --> 00:31:41,514
the application.

17845
00:31:41,514 --> 00:31:44,017
>> mayor: very good.

17846
00:31:44,017 --> 00:31:44,916
commissioner willits.

17847
00:31:44,916 --> 00:31:46,405
>> thank you, mr. Mayor.

17848
00:31:46,405 --> 00:31:47,987
staff, we heard this back in

17849
00:31:47,987 --> 00:31:47,987
october.

17850
00:31:47,987 --> 00:31:49,583
is there a reason why there's

17851
00:31:49,583 --> 00:31:51,025
such a long period between fir

17852
00:31:51,025 --> 00:31:51,025
st

17853
00:31:51,025 --> 00:31:55,161
and second reading?

17854
00:31:55,161 --> 00:31:56,291
>> which item did you hear bac

17855
00:31:56,291 --> 00:31:56,291
k

17856
00:31:56,291 --> 00:31:58,357
in october?

17857
00:31:58,357 --> 00:31:59,583
>> it said we heard the petitio

17858
00:31:59,583 --> 00:31:59,583
n

17859
00:31:59,583 --> 00:32:00,680
in october.

17860
00:32:00,680 --> 00:32:03,404
is that accurate?

17861
00:32:03,404 --> 00:32:04,383
>> is this not first reading f

17862
00:32:04,383 --> 00:32:04,383
or

17863
00:32:04,383 --> 00:32:07,343
this item?

17864
00:32:07,343 --> 00:32:08,902
>> this is on for first reading

17865
00:32:08,902 --> 00:32:08,902
.

17866
00:32:08,902 --> 00:32:10,109
>> mayor: this is first reading.

17867
00:32:10,109 --> 00:32:10,109


17868
00:32:10,109 --> 00:32:11,372
>> why did I just see a chart

17869
00:32:11,372 --> 00:32:12,610
that said we had already heard

17870
00:32:12,610 --> 00:32:12,610


17871
00:32:12,610 --> 00:32:12,610
it?

17872
00:32:12,610 --> 00:32:15,780
>> that may be for the sheriff's

17873
00:32:15,780 --> 00:32:15,780


17874
00:32:15,780 --> 00:32:17,082
office rezoning that's later.

17875
00:32:17,082 --> 00:32:18,679
>> mayor: maybe.

17876
00:32:18,679 --> 00:32:19,814
>> I'm looking at the wrong one

17877
00:32:19,814 --> 00:32:19,814
.

17878
00:32:19,814 --> 00:32:27,826
no, no.

17879
00:32:27,826 --> 00:32:28,789
maybe there's a chart

17880
00:32:28,789 --> 00:32:32,854
accidentally on the historic

17881
00:32:32,854 --> 00:32:33,344
preservation one.

17882
00:32:33,344 --> 00:32:35,000
if you tell me it's not, but o

17883
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:35,000
n

17884
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,596
one of those slides it says

17885
00:32:37,596 --> 00:32:41,782
10/ 16/25.

17886
00:32:41,782 --> 00:32:42,731
>> that was an error.

17887
00:32:42,731 --> 00:32:44,815
>> in our backup, perfect.

17888
00:32:44,815 --> 00:32:46,006
we are looking at different

17889
00:32:46,006 --> 00:32:46,006
documents.

17890
00:32:46,006 --> 00:32:48,838
>> sorry about that.

17891
00:32:48,838 --> 00:32:50,212
>> I didn't think I was --

17892
00:32:50,212 --> 00:32:51,483
that's why I was wondering.

17893
00:32:51,483 --> 00:32:52,554
but I remember we heard

17894
00:32:52,554 --> 00:32:53,459
somewhere in the back of my

17895
00:32:53,459 --> 00:32:54,588
brain, we heard something about

17896
00:32:54,588 --> 00:32:54,588


17897
00:32:54,588 --> 00:32:54,588
this.

17898
00:32:54,588 --> 00:32:57,046
but maybe there was conversatio

17899
00:32:57,046 --> 00:32:57,046
n

17900
00:32:57,046 --> 00:32:58,482
about what's going on and then

17901
00:32:58,482 --> 00:32:58,682
I

17902
00:32:58,682 --> 00:32:59,824
think staff said something is

17903
00:32:59,824 --> 00:33:00,884
coming down the pike.

17904
00:33:00,884 --> 00:33:01,851
>> that sounds like it could be

17905
00:33:01,851 --> 00:33:01,851


17906
00:33:01,851 --> 00:33:02,522
it, yeah.

17907
00:33:02,522 --> 00:33:03,128
>> perfect.

17908
00:33:03,128 --> 00:33:06,025
so is there -- but all three o

17909
00:33:06,025 --> 00:33:06,025
f

17910
00:33:06,025 --> 00:33:07,428
the -- well, not parcels, but

17911
00:33:07,428 --> 00:33:07,428
lots.

17912
00:33:07,428 --> 00:33:09,299
it's basically three lots in a

17913
00:33:09,299 --> 00:33:09,299


17914
00:33:09,299 --> 00:33:09,299
row.

17915
00:33:09,299 --> 00:33:12,370
but it's the middle and eastern

17916
00:33:12,370 --> 00:33:12,370


17917
00:33:12,370 --> 00:33:12,370
one.

17918
00:33:12,370 --> 00:33:14,184
>> right.

17919
00:33:14,184 --> 00:33:16,306
>> are we splitting up the pud

17920
00:33:16,306 --> 00:33:16,306


17921
00:33:16,306 --> 00:33:16,306
then?

17922
00:33:16,306 --> 00:33:19,146
are we leaving a remnant?

17923
00:33:19,146 --> 00:33:21,771
for the land use, that pud, is

17924
00:33:21,771 --> 00:33:21,771


17925
00:33:21,771 --> 00:33:24,310
it one pud originally that we

17926
00:33:24,310 --> 00:33:25,976
are then splitting and leaving?

17927
00:33:25,976 --> 00:33:25,976


17928
00:33:25,976 --> 00:33:29,754
>> so the pud that you're

17929
00:33:29,754 --> 00:33:31,960
referencing, I think I have som

17930
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:31,960
e

17931
00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:32,822
images here.

17932
00:33:32,822 --> 00:33:35,662
I believe it counts for both o

17933
00:33:35,662 --> 00:33:35,662
f

17934
00:33:35,662 --> 00:33:36,994
these properties.

17935
00:33:36,994 --> 00:33:38,724
but this proposal is just to

17936
00:33:38,724 --> 00:33:43,996
apply to the lot, like you sai

17937
00:33:43,996 --> 00:33:43,996
d,

17938
00:33:43,996 --> 00:33:48,302
east of the other historic sit

17939
00:33:48,302 --> 00:33:48,302
e.

17940
00:33:48,302 --> 00:33:50,370
so the pud would still be in

17941
00:33:50,370 --> 00:33:51,344
effect for that.

17942
00:33:51,344 --> 00:33:52,570
>> that's the land use.

17943
00:33:52,570 --> 00:33:53,286
>> right.

17944
00:33:53,286 --> 00:33:55,084
>> that's a land use and then

17945
00:33:55,084 --> 00:33:57,046
even later on the zoning.

17946
00:33:57,046 --> 00:33:58,478
>> the pud would also still

17947
00:33:58,478 --> 00:34:00,318
apply to that other piece of

17948
00:34:00,318 --> 00:34:00,318
property.

17949
00:34:00,318 --> 00:34:02,088
>> even though it is kind of an

17950
00:34:02,088 --> 00:34:02,088


17951
00:34:02,088 --> 00:34:02,754
old --

17952
00:34:02,754 --> 00:34:03,488
>> even still, yeah.

17953
00:34:03,488 --> 00:34:04,546
>> all right.

17954
00:34:04,546 --> 00:34:05,882
it feels a little weird, but I

17955
00:34:05,882 --> 00:34:05,882
t

17956
00:34:05,882 --> 00:34:06,656
does make sense.

17957
00:34:06,656 --> 00:34:08,519
if everything else is mor aarou

17958
00:34:08,519 --> 00:34:12,976
nd it, this is just

17959
00:34:12,976 --> 00:34:16,292
returning potential [inaudible]

17960
00:34:16,292 --> 00:34:16,292
.

17961
00:34:16,292 --> 00:34:18,202
airbnbs have probably taken a

17962
00:34:18,202 --> 00:34:21,972
lot of wind out of the sail of

17963
00:34:21,972 --> 00:34:21,972


17964
00:34:21,972 --> 00:34:25,946
actual b&bs, there could be

17965
00:34:25,946 --> 00:34:27,140
somebody living on the site to

17966
00:34:27,140 --> 00:34:27,140


17967
00:34:27,140 --> 00:34:28,553
help the east side and downtown

17968
00:34:28,553 --> 00:34:28,553


17969
00:34:28,553 --> 00:34:30,883
have more people living there to

17970
00:34:30,883 --> 00:34:30,883


17971
00:34:30,883 --> 00:34:32,812
do everything that we want to d

17972
00:34:32,812 --> 00:34:32,812
o

17973
00:34:32,812 --> 00:34:34,148
in getting more people to live

17974
00:34:34,148 --> 00:34:34,148


17975
00:34:34,148 --> 00:34:35,876
downtown or close to downtown.

17976
00:34:35,876 --> 00:34:35,876


17977
00:34:35,876 --> 00:34:39,088
so I just want to be in support

17978
00:34:39,088 --> 00:34:39,088


17979
00:34:39,088 --> 00:34:41,790
and I'll make the motion.

17980
00:34:41,790 --> 00:34:42,563
>> mayor: thank you.

17981
00:34:42,563 --> 00:34:43,382
commissioner eastman.

17982
00:34:43,382 --> 00:34:44,121
>> yeah, thank you.

17983
00:34:44,121 --> 00:34:45,732
I mean this seems like a

17984
00:34:45,732 --> 00:34:45,732
no-brainer.

17985
00:34:45,732 --> 00:34:48,262
there's mixed use office

17986
00:34:48,262 --> 00:34:52,064
residential all around it.

17987
00:34:52,064 --> 00:34:53,266
you know, for years, the

17988
00:34:53,266 --> 00:34:54,072
community has been asking what'

17989
00:34:54,072 --> 00:34:54,072
s

17990
00:34:54,072 --> 00:34:56,575
going to happen with this house

17991
00:34:56,575 --> 00:34:56,575
.

17992
00:34:56,575 --> 00:34:58,210
it is a very stark house.

17993
00:34:58,210 --> 00:35:00,448
I believe it is on bo diddley

17994
00:35:00,448 --> 00:35:00,448
plaza.

17995
00:35:00,448 --> 00:35:02,856
it was originally in downtown,

17996
00:35:02,856 --> 00:35:02,856


17997
00:35:02,856 --> 00:35:02,856
correct?

17998
00:35:02,856 --> 00:35:05,240
it was originally on bo diddley

17999
00:35:05,240 --> 00:35:05,240


18000
00:35:05,240 --> 00:35:05,240
plaza.

18001
00:35:05,240 --> 00:35:09,864
the city had a bit of history,

18002
00:35:09,864 --> 00:35:09,864


18003
00:35:09,864 --> 00:35:11,647
eminent domain this entire

18004
00:35:11,647 --> 00:35:13,310
section of our downtown to

18005
00:35:13,310 --> 00:35:14,959
create city hall, bo diddley

18006
00:35:14,959 --> 00:35:16,563
plaza and what should have bee

18007
00:35:16,563 --> 00:35:16,563
n

18008
00:35:16,563 --> 00:35:19,064
a civic center from there.

18009
00:35:19,064 --> 00:35:22,471
it was high historic

18010
00:35:22,471 --> 00:35:24,231
preservation and moved it to

18011
00:35:24,231 --> 00:35:24,764
university avenue.

18012
00:35:24,764 --> 00:35:25,867
and people have been curious

18013
00:35:25,867 --> 00:35:27,197
what is going to happen to it.

18014
00:35:27,197 --> 00:35:27,197


18015
00:35:27,197 --> 00:35:28,467
it is a beautiful stately house

18016
00:35:28,467 --> 00:35:28,467


18017
00:35:28,467 --> 00:35:30,236
that now looks sort of ghostly

18018
00:35:30,236 --> 00:35:30,236


18019
00:35:30,236 --> 00:35:32,303
and wasn't entirely clear.

18020
00:35:32,303 --> 00:35:35,042
I'm glad someone wanted to ste

18021
00:35:35,042 --> 00:35:35,042
p

18022
00:35:35,042 --> 00:35:36,055
up and do something good with

18023
00:35:36,055 --> 00:35:36,055
it.

18024
00:35:36,055 --> 00:35:38,237
I'm very happy they came forwa

18025
00:35:38,237 --> 00:35:38,237
rd

18026
00:35:38,237 --> 00:35:38,877
with it.

18027
00:35:38,877 --> 00:35:40,654
it's a really good reminder to

18028
00:35:40,654 --> 00:35:40,654


18029
00:35:40,654 --> 00:35:41,951
everyone why we should be tryin

18030
00:35:41,951 --> 00:35:41,951
g

18031
00:35:41,951 --> 00:35:43,851
not to approve pds.

18032
00:35:43,851 --> 00:35:45,449
I understand there's reverters

18033
00:35:45,449 --> 00:35:45,449


18034
00:35:45,449 --> 00:35:45,449
nowadays.

18035
00:35:45,449 --> 00:35:48,434
we have learned some thingover

18036
00:35:48,434 --> 00:35:48,434


18037
00:35:48,434 --> 00:35:48,434
time.

18038
00:35:48,434 --> 00:35:52,231
what happens with planned

18039
00:35:52,231 --> 00:35:52,856
developments which are these

18040
00:35:52,856 --> 00:35:54,862
kind of costly parcels, they

18041
00:35:54,862 --> 00:35:56,166
just linger there.

18042
00:35:56,166 --> 00:35:57,625
and then the whole code changes

18043
00:35:57,625 --> 00:35:57,625


18044
00:35:57,625 --> 00:35:58,271
all around it.

18045
00:35:58,271 --> 00:36:00,619
and then eventually somebody is

18046
00:36:00,619 --> 00:36:00,619


18047
00:36:00,619 --> 00:36:02,001
just trying to already put in

18048
00:36:02,001 --> 00:36:03,306
enough time and effort to make

18049
00:36:03,306 --> 00:36:03,306


18050
00:36:03,306 --> 00:36:04,645
the house look nice and hires

18051
00:36:04,645 --> 00:36:07,275
eda to come and go for the pla

18052
00:36:07,275 --> 00:36:07,275
n

18053
00:36:07,275 --> 00:36:09,041
board and I think I saw july

18054
00:36:09,041 --> 00:36:10,447
when this first came forward.

18055
00:36:10,447 --> 00:36:12,117
just a lot of work for people to

18056
00:36:12,117 --> 00:36:12,117


18057
00:36:12,117 --> 00:36:12,549
go through.

18058
00:36:12,549 --> 00:36:14,145
so it's nice for it to just be

18059
00:36:14,145 --> 00:36:14,145


18060
00:36:14,145 --> 00:36:15,157
part of the rest of the process

18061
00:36:15,157 --> 00:36:15,157


18062
00:36:15,157 --> 00:36:17,553
as the code changes.

18063
00:36:17,553 --> 00:36:19,079
so I'm very happy to support I

18064
00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:19,079
t.

18065
00:36:19,079 --> 00:36:20,489
with that, I'd like to approve

18066
00:36:20,489 --> 00:36:20,489


18067
00:36:20,489 --> 00:36:23,893
ordinance number 2025-998.

18068
00:36:23,893 --> 00:36:24,495
>> second.

18069
00:36:24,495 --> 00:36:25,291
>> mayor: we have a motion and

18070
00:36:25,291 --> 00:36:25,373
a

18071
00:36:25,373 --> 00:36:25,373
second.

18072
00:36:25,373 --> 00:36:27,751
madam clerk, is there any public

18073
00:36:27,751 --> 00:36:27,751


18074
00:36:27,751 --> 00:36:27,751
comment?

18075
00:36:27,751 --> 00:36:30,029
>> there's no public comment.

18076
00:36:30,029 --> 00:36:31,767
>> mayor: anything either staff

18077
00:36:31,767 --> 00:36:31,767


18078
00:36:31,767 --> 00:36:33,769
or the applicant want to add t

18079
00:36:33,769 --> 00:36:33,769
o

18080
00:36:33,769 --> 00:36:34,949
the land use?

18081
00:36:34,949 --> 00:36:35,366
all right.

18082
00:36:35,366 --> 00:36:36,659
seeing no further lights, madam

18083
00:36:36,659 --> 00:36:36,659


18084
00:36:36,659 --> 00:36:38,674
clerk, please call the roll.

18085
00:36:38,674 --> 00:36:39,417
>> commissioner ingle.

18086
00:36:39,417 --> 00:36:39,952
>> aye.

18087
00:36:39,952 --> 00:36:40,599
>> commissioner chestnut.

18088
00:36:40,599 --> 00:36:41,053
>> aye.

18089
00:36:41,053 --> 00:36:41,537
>> commissioner duncan-walker.

18090
00:36:41,537 --> 00:36:41,537


18091
00:36:41,537 --> 00:36:41,991
>> aye.

18092
00:36:41,991 --> 00:36:42,511
>> commissioner book.

18093
00:36:42,511 --> 00:36:43,149
>> aye.

18094
00:36:43,149 --> 00:36:43,645
>> commissioner willits.

18095
00:36:43,645 --> 00:36:44,115
>> aye.

18096
00:36:44,115 --> 00:36:44,620
>> commissioner eastman.

18097
00:36:44,620 --> 00:36:45,183
>> aye.

18098
00:36:45,183 --> 00:36:45,613
>> mayor ward.

18099
00:36:45,613 --> 00:36:46,627
>> mayor: aye.

18100
00:36:46,627 --> 00:36:47,391
that passes unanimously.

18101
00:36:47,391 --> 00:36:50,183
madam clerk.

18102
00:36:50,183 --> 00:36:52,648
>> mr. Mayor, ordinance number

18103
00:36:52,648 --> 00:36:52,648


18104
00:36:52,648 --> 00:36:55,619
2025-997, an ordinance of the

18105
00:36:55,619 --> 00:36:56,151
city of gainesville, florida

18106
00:36:56,151 --> 00:36:58,791
amending the zoning map atlas b

18107
00:36:58,791 --> 00:36:58,791
y

18108
00:36:58,791 --> 00:37:00,423
rezoning approximately .64 acr

18109
00:37:00,423 --> 00:37:00,423
es

18110
00:37:00,423 --> 00:37:02,761
of property generally located a

18111
00:37:02,761 --> 00:37:02,761
t

18112
00:37:02,761 --> 00:37:04,562
the 800 block of east universi

18113
00:37:04,562 --> 00:37:04,562
ty

18114
00:37:04,562 --> 00:37:05,503
avenue as more specifically

18115
00:37:05,503 --> 00:37:07,137
described in this ordinance fro

18116
00:37:07,137 --> 00:37:07,137
m

18117
00:37:07,137 --> 00:37:08,329
planned development to urban 4

18118
00:37:08,329 --> 00:37:08,329
,

18119
00:37:08,329 --> 00:37:09,827
providing directions to the city

18120
00:37:09,827 --> 00:37:09,827


18121
00:37:09,827 --> 00:37:11,307
manager, providing severabilit

18122
00:37:11,307 --> 00:37:11,307
y

18123
00:37:11,307 --> 00:37:13,577
clause, prov providing repeali

18124
00:37:13,577 --> 00:37:13,577
ng

18125
00:37:13,577 --> 00:37:16,185
clause and providing effective

18126
00:37:16,185 --> 00:37:16,185


18127
00:37:16,185 --> 00:37:16,185
date.

18128
00:37:16,185 --> 00:37:26,815
>> ari rabinovich, this is the

18129
00:37:26,815 --> 00:37:26,815


18130
00:37:26,815 --> 00:37:28,019
800 block of east university

18131
00:37:28,019 --> 00:37:28,019
avenue.

18132
00:37:28,019 --> 00:37:32,186
so the requested zoning

18133
00:37:32,186 --> 00:37:34,624
designation is urban zoned 4

18134
00:37:34,624 --> 00:37:36,497
which is transect.

18135
00:37:36,497 --> 00:37:38,531
this is a zoning designation

18136
00:37:38,531 --> 00:37:40,197
that would establish a range o

18137
00:37:40,197 --> 00:37:40,197
f

18138
00:37:40,197 --> 00:37:45,665
allowable uses and allowable

18139
00:37:45,665 --> 00:37:46,869
development which is a mix of

18140
00:37:46,869 --> 00:37:47,970
uses including offices,

18141
00:37:47,970 --> 00:37:49,277
residences, retail, commercial

18142
00:37:49,277 --> 00:37:49,277


18143
00:37:49,277 --> 00:37:53,010
and civic uses.

18144
00:37:53,010 --> 00:37:55,717
so a map of the current zoning

18145
00:37:55,717 --> 00:37:55,717


18146
00:37:55,717 --> 00:37:58,591
designations which are both pd.

18147
00:37:58,591 --> 00:37:58,591


18148
00:37:58,591 --> 00:38:03,823
and the requested u4.

18149
00:38:03,823 --> 00:38:06,333
same set of surrounding active

18150
00:38:06,333 --> 00:38:06,333


18151
00:38:06,333 --> 00:38:08,093
uses, surrounding zoning

18152
00:38:08,093 --> 00:38:13,997
designations are both u4 and u

18153
00:38:13,997 --> 00:38:13,997
3.

18154
00:38:13,997 --> 00:38:16,932
and rooking at that same clust

18155
00:38:16,932 --> 00:38:16,932
er

18156
00:38:16,932 --> 00:38:19,080
of land it's about 73 acres

18157
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,033
that are zoned either u3 or u4

18158
00:38:21,033 --> 00:38:21,033


18159
00:38:21,033 --> 00:38:25,394
in this area.

18160
00:38:25,394 --> 00:38:28,877
same historic considerations.

18161
00:38:28,877 --> 00:38:33,057
and same set of review criteri

18162
00:38:33,057 --> 00:38:33,057
a

18163
00:38:33,057 --> 00:38:37,555
that historic preservation wou

18164
00:38:37,555 --> 00:38:37,555
ld

18165
00:38:37,555 --> 00:38:37,555
conduct.

18166
00:38:37,555 --> 00:38:42,126
and just real quick synopsis o

18167
00:38:42,126 --> 00:38:42,126
f

18168
00:38:42,126 --> 00:38:45,063
the transect zone.

18169
00:38:45,063 --> 00:38:49,235
this is being -- u4 falls withi

18170
00:38:49,235 --> 00:38:49,235
n

18171
00:38:49,235 --> 00:38:50,614
the designation that consists

18172
00:38:50,614 --> 00:38:50,614
of

18173
00:38:50,614 --> 00:38:51,979
a wide range of residential

18174
00:38:51,979 --> 00:38:53,838
building types with the higher

18175
00:38:53,838 --> 00:38:53,838


18176
00:38:53,838 --> 00:38:55,669
numbered zones providing for t

18177
00:38:55,669 --> 00:38:55,669
he

18178
00:38:55,669 --> 00:38:57,346
integration of offices and

18179
00:38:57,346 --> 00:38:58,977
neighborhood services within a

18180
00:38:58,977 --> 00:38:58,977
n

18181
00:38:58,977 --> 00:39:01,279
increasingly urban fabric,

18182
00:39:01,279 --> 00:39:03,385
setbacks that vary and streets

18183
00:39:03,385 --> 00:39:03,385


18184
00:39:03,385 --> 00:39:05,082
with curbs and sidewalks that

18185
00:39:05,082 --> 00:39:07,083
define medium-sized blocks.

18186
00:39:07,083 --> 00:39:08,418
and the intent of the transect

18187
00:39:08,418 --> 00:39:08,418


18188
00:39:08,418 --> 00:39:09,518
zoning is to establish

18189
00:39:09,518 --> 00:39:10,291
development standards that

18190
00:39:10,291 --> 00:39:12,361
encourage a more efficient and

18191
00:39:12,361 --> 00:39:12,361


18192
00:39:12,361 --> 00:39:13,563
sustainable forum by allowing a

18193
00:39:13,563 --> 00:39:13,563


18194
00:39:13,563 --> 00:39:15,629
range of housing, employment,

18195
00:39:15,629 --> 00:39:17,394
shopping and recreation choices

18196
00:39:17,394 --> 00:39:17,394


18197
00:39:17,394 --> 00:39:19,597
within a compact and

18198
00:39:19,597 --> 00:39:23,575
pedestrian-friendly environmen

18199
00:39:23,575 --> 00:39:23,575
t.

18200
00:39:23,575 --> 00:39:25,499
comparing the u4 designation

18201
00:39:25,499 --> 00:39:27,377
against what was basically

18202
00:39:27,377 --> 00:39:29,689
applied within the pd which was

18203
00:39:29,689 --> 00:39:29,689


18204
00:39:29,689 --> 00:39:31,904
o2 back then, we see that

18205
00:39:31,904 --> 00:39:33,951
there's some outdated standards

18206
00:39:33,951 --> 00:39:33,951


18207
00:39:33,951 --> 00:39:37,051
for things like setbacks where

18208
00:39:37,051 --> 00:39:37,051


18209
00:39:37,051 --> 00:39:41,389
the o2 require setbacks relative

18210
00:39:41,389 --> 00:39:41,389


18211
00:39:41,389 --> 00:39:42,265
to the angle of light

18212
00:39:42,265 --> 00:39:42,265
obstruction.

18213
00:39:42,265 --> 00:39:46,409
o2 disallowed residential uses

18214
00:39:46,409 --> 00:39:46,409


18215
00:39:46,409 --> 00:39:48,065
so this request would introduce

18216
00:39:48,065 --> 00:39:48,065


18217
00:39:48,065 --> 00:39:49,565
residential uses and modernize

18218
00:39:49,565 --> 00:39:49,565


18219
00:39:49,565 --> 00:39:50,745
code requirements to meet the

18220
00:39:50,745 --> 00:39:51,664
design and development standards

18221
00:39:51,664 --> 00:39:51,664


18222
00:39:51,664 --> 00:39:53,633
that are set by our transect

18223
00:39:53,633 --> 00:39:55,035
code relating to density,

18224
00:39:55,035 --> 00:40:00,071
height, setback, sidewalks.

18225
00:40:00,071 --> 00:40:03,041
so staff are required by code t

18226
00:40:03,041 --> 00:40:03,041
o

18227
00:40:03,041 --> 00:40:04,877
review rezoning against a set o

18228
00:40:04,877 --> 00:40:04,877
f

18229
00:40:04,877 --> 00:40:05,982
criteria and have found that

18230
00:40:05,982 --> 00:40:07,814
this request does meet the

18231
00:40:07,814 --> 00:40:09,597
requirements of the land

18232
00:40:09,597 --> 00:40:10,249
development code.

18233
00:40:10,249 --> 00:40:12,521
this involves compatibility wit

18234
00:40:12,521 --> 00:40:12,521
h

18235
00:40:12,521 --> 00:40:13,913
the surrounding development, a

18236
00:40:13,913 --> 00:40:13,913
ny

18237
00:40:13,913 --> 00:40:15,648
changes to the character of the

18238
00:40:15,648 --> 00:40:15,648


18239
00:40:15,648 --> 00:40:16,920
area that warrant the requested

18240
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:16,920


18241
00:40:16,920 --> 00:40:19,225
change and the goals, policies

18242
00:40:19,225 --> 00:40:19,225


18243
00:40:19,225 --> 00:40:20,290
and objectives of the

18244
00:40:20,290 --> 00:40:20,992
comprehensive plan, specificall

18245
00:40:20,992 --> 00:40:20,992
y

18246
00:40:20,992 --> 00:40:22,298
foes surrounding the

18247
00:40:22,298 --> 00:40:23,498
encouragement of diverse

18248
00:40:23,498 --> 00:40:25,597
housing, office, retail and

18249
00:40:25,597 --> 00:40:26,739
workplace choices as well as the

18250
00:40:26,739 --> 00:40:26,739


18251
00:40:26,739 --> 00:40:28,344
discouraging of sprawl through

18252
00:40:28,344 --> 00:40:28,344


18253
00:40:28,344 --> 00:40:28,967
infill development.

18254
00:40:28,967 --> 00:40:30,298
so with that, staff does

18255
00:40:30,298 --> 00:40:31,507
recommend approval of

18256
00:40:31,507 --> 00:40:31,507
ld25-000141.

18257
00:40:31,507 --> 00:40:35,508
thank you very much for your

18258
00:40:35,508 --> 00:40:37,177
time and I'm here for any

18259
00:40:37,177 --> 00:40:38,413
further questions.

18260
00:40:38,413 --> 00:40:38,955
>> mayor: very good.

18261
00:40:38,955 --> 00:40:39,912
thank you.

18262
00:40:39,912 --> 00:40:43,117
I see no questions.

18263
00:40:43,117 --> 00:40:44,281
mr. Sweger, did you want to

18264
00:40:44,281 --> 00:40:45,086
offer anything?

18265
00:40:45,086 --> 00:40:46,455
all right.

18266
00:40:46,455 --> 00:40:48,554
very good.

18267
00:40:48,554 --> 00:40:49,755
commissioner willits.

18268
00:40:49,755 --> 00:40:51,522
>> mr. Mayor, seeing as the

18269
00:40:51,522 --> 00:40:53,049
property is immediately across

18270
00:40:53,049 --> 00:40:53,049


18271
00:40:53,049 --> 00:40:54,591
the street and then to the two

18272
00:40:54,591 --> 00:40:54,591


18273
00:40:54,591 --> 00:40:55,802
blocks towards downtown are all

18274
00:40:55,802 --> 00:40:55,802


18275
00:40:55,802 --> 00:41:00,432
that u4, on that kind of half

18276
00:41:00,432 --> 00:41:01,470
block abutting the university.

18277
00:41:01,470 --> 00:41:01,470


18278
00:41:01,470 --> 00:41:02,808
it seems to make sense.

18279
00:41:02,808 --> 00:41:05,973
it's a little bit of corridor o

18280
00:41:05,973 --> 00:41:05,973
f

18281
00:41:05,973 --> 00:41:07,382
u4 that makes sense.

18282
00:41:07,382 --> 00:41:08,721
I move the city commission ado

18283
00:41:08,721 --> 00:41:08,721


18284
00:41:08,721 --> 00:41:14,048
the proposed ordinance 2025-995

18285
00:41:14,048 --> 00:41:14,048


18286
00:41:14,048 --> 00:41:16,018
quasi-judicial the 800 block

18287
00:41:16,018 --> 00:41:17,918
east university rezoning.

18288
00:41:17,918 --> 00:41:19,158
>> second.

18289
00:41:19,158 --> 00:41:19,813
>> mayor: is there any public

18290
00:41:19,813 --> 00:41:20,951
comment on this, madam clerk?

18291
00:41:20,951 --> 00:41:22,192
>> no public comment.

18292
00:41:22,192 --> 00:41:22,932
>> mayor: would you call the

18293
00:41:22,932 --> 00:41:23,688
roll, please.

18294
00:41:23,688 --> 00:41:24,855
>> commissioner chestnut.

18295
00:41:24,855 --> 00:41:25,499
>> aye.

18296
00:41:25,499 --> 00:41:25,990
>> commissioner duncan-walker.

18297
00:41:25,990 --> 00:41:25,990


18298
00:41:25,990 --> 00:41:26,500
>> aye.

18299
00:41:26,500 --> 00:41:27,122
>> commissioner book.

18300
00:41:27,122 --> 00:41:27,833
>> aye.

18301
00:41:27,833 --> 00:41:28,362
>> commissioner willits.

18302
00:41:28,362 --> 00:41:28,804
>> aye.

18303
00:41:28,804 --> 00:41:29,382
>> commissioner eastman.

18304
00:41:29,382 --> 00:41:29,895
>> aye.

18305
00:41:29,895 --> 00:41:30,478
>> commissioner ingle.

18306
00:41:30,478 --> 00:41:31,140
>> aye.

18307
00:41:31,140 --> 00:41:31,502
>> mayor ward.

18308
00:41:31,502 --> 00:41:32,463
>> mayor: aye.

18309
00:41:32,463 --> 00:41:34,194
that passes unanimously.

18310
00:41:34,194 --> 00:41:35,131
nice work.

18311
00:41:35,131 --> 00:41:36,736
>> mr. Mayor, ordinance number

18312
00:41:36,736 --> 00:41:36,736


18313
00:41:36,736 --> 00:41:38,837
2025-992, an ordinance of the

18314
00:41:38,837 --> 00:41:39,352
city of gainesville, florida

18315
00:41:39,352 --> 00:41:40,712
amending the future land use m

18316
00:41:40,712 --> 00:41:40,712
ap

18317
00:41:40,712 --> 00:41:41,606
of the comprehensive plan by

18318
00:41:41,606 --> 00:41:43,212
changing the land use category

18319
00:41:43,212 --> 00:41:43,212


18320
00:41:43,212 --> 00:41:45,704
of approximately 25.55 acres o

18321
00:41:45,704 --> 00:41:45,704
f

18322
00:41:45,704 --> 00:41:47,078
property generally located wes

18323
00:41:47,078 --> 00:41:47,078
t

18324
00:41:47,078 --> 00:41:48,710
of southwest 13th street,

18325
00:41:48,710 --> 00:41:51,050
south of southwest archer road,

18326
00:41:51,050 --> 00:41:51,050


18327
00:41:51,050 --> 00:41:53,020
east of southwest 16th street

18328
00:41:53,020 --> 00:41:54,721
and north of southwest 16th

18329
00:41:54,721 --> 00:41:56,620
avenue as more specifically

18330
00:41:56,620 --> 00:41:58,152
described in this ordinance fro

18331
00:41:58,152 --> 00:41:58,152
m

18332
00:41:58,152 --> 00:42:01,225
urban mixed use high intensity

18333
00:42:01,225 --> 00:42:01,225


18334
00:42:01,225 --> 00:42:03,422
to office, providing directions

18335
00:42:03,422 --> 00:42:03,422


18336
00:42:03,422 --> 00:42:05,097
to the city manager, providing

18337
00:42:05,097 --> 00:42:05,097


18338
00:42:05,097 --> 00:42:06,733
severability clause, providing

18339
00:42:06,733 --> 00:42:06,733


18340
00:42:06,733 --> 00:42:08,311
repealing clause and providing

18341
00:42:08,311 --> 00:42:08,311


18342
00:42:08,311 --> 00:42:09,034
an effective date.

18343
00:42:09,034 --> 00:42:09,942
>> mayor: very good.

18344
00:42:09,942 --> 00:42:09,942
welcome.

18345
00:42:09,942 --> 00:42:11,160
>> hello, good evening, mayor

18346
00:42:11,160 --> 00:42:11,775
and commissioners.

18347
00:42:11,775 --> 00:42:12,868
thank you for having me this

18348
00:42:12,868 --> 00:42:12,868
evening.

18349
00:42:12,868 --> 00:42:16,610
my name is allison payinger.

18350
00:42:16,610 --> 00:42:20,514
I'm a in the department of

18351
00:42:20,514 --> 00:42:21,748
sustainable development.

18352
00:42:21,748 --> 00:42:24,420
u.f. South campus will consist

18353
00:42:24,420 --> 00:42:24,420


18354
00:42:24,420 --> 00:42:26,260
of two applications, one for t

18355
00:42:26,260 --> 00:42:26,260
he

18356
00:42:26,260 --> 00:42:28,319
land use that is legislative a

18357
00:42:28,319 --> 00:42:28,319
nd

18358
00:42:28,319 --> 00:42:30,390
one for the map change which I

18359
00:42:30,390 --> 00:42:30,390
s

18360
00:42:30,390 --> 00:42:30,390
quasi-judicial.

18361
00:42:30,390 --> 00:42:31,792
this presentation is

18362
00:42:31,792 --> 00:42:32,693
specifically for the land use

18363
00:42:32,693 --> 00:42:34,852
amendment identified by petitio

18364
00:42:34,852 --> 00:42:34,852
n

18365
00:42:34,852 --> 00:42:34,852
number.

18366
00:42:34,852 --> 00:42:40,954
the applicant is in attendance

18367
00:42:40,954 --> 00:42:40,954


18368
00:42:40,954 --> 00:42:42,540
and will have a presentation

18369
00:42:42,540 --> 00:42:44,166
after the conclusion of staff's

18370
00:42:44,166 --> 00:42:44,166


18371
00:42:44,166 --> 00:42:44,166
presentation.

18372
00:42:44,166 --> 00:42:50,504
this petition is for three

18373
00:42:50,504 --> 00:42:52,614
subject parcels equaling in

18374
00:42:52,614 --> 00:42:55,748
total approximately 25.55 acres

18375
00:42:55,748 --> 00:42:55,748
.

18376
00:42:55,748 --> 00:42:56,448
for the record identified as

18377
00:42:56,448 --> 00:43:09,261
parcels 1548200000145490000 and

18378
00:43:09,261 --> 00:43:09,261


18379
00:43:09,261 --> 00:43:09,261
154-60-0000.

18380
00:43:09,261 --> 00:43:11,670
the three parcels are south of

18381
00:43:11,670 --> 00:43:11,670


18382
00:43:11,670 --> 00:43:12,994
the university of florida xuts

18383
00:43:12,994 --> 00:43:12,994


18384
00:43:12,994 --> 00:43:15,400
and bounded by archer road,

18385
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:17,605
southwest 16th ave.

18386
00:43:17,605 --> 00:43:18,902
southwest 13th street and

18387
00:43:18,902 --> 00:43:19,871
southwest 16th street.

18388
00:43:19,871 --> 00:43:23,205
the current land use category I

18389
00:43:23,205 --> 00:43:23,205
s

18390
00:43:23,205 --> 00:43:24,740
umuh urban mixed use high

18391
00:43:24,740 --> 00:43:24,740
intensity.

18392
00:43:24,740 --> 00:43:27,144
the proposed change is for

18393
00:43:27,144 --> 00:43:27,144
office.

18394
00:43:27,144 --> 00:43:28,946
the subject parcels are

18395
00:43:28,946 --> 00:43:30,008
currently developed.

18396
00:43:30,008 --> 00:43:32,448
this area is referred to as u.f

18397
00:43:32,448 --> 00:43:32,448
.

18398
00:43:32,448 --> 00:43:34,028
healthsouth campus.

18399
00:43:34,028 --> 00:43:35,180
please note that the three

18400
00:43:35,180 --> 00:43:37,464
parcels are not within the u.f

18401
00:43:37,464 --> 00:43:37,464
.

18402
00:43:37,464 --> 00:43:38,436
campus development agreement

18403
00:43:38,436 --> 00:43:38,436
this.

18404
00:43:38,436 --> 00:43:40,766
however it is part of the u.f.

18405
00:43:40,766 --> 00:43:40,766


18406
00:43:40,766 --> 00:43:42,052
master plan and largely part o

18407
00:43:42,052 --> 00:43:42,052
f

18408
00:43:42,052 --> 00:43:44,900
the u.f. Health shands complex.

18409
00:43:44,900 --> 00:43:44,900


18410
00:43:44,900 --> 00:43:46,230
the parcels are currently home

18411
00:43:46,230 --> 00:43:46,230


18412
00:43:46,230 --> 00:43:50,370
to u.f. Health heart and

18413
00:43:50,370 --> 00:43:52,246
vascular hospital and u.f.

18414
00:43:52,246 --> 00:43:54,777
health shands, and trauma

18415
00:43:54,777 --> 00:43:54,777
center.

18416
00:43:54,777 --> 00:43:57,513
the purpose of the request is I

18417
00:43:57,513 --> 00:43:57,513
n

18418
00:43:57,513 --> 00:43:58,100
two parts.

18419
00:43:58,100 --> 00:43:59,046
to have the property be

18420
00:43:59,046 --> 00:44:00,548
consistent in land use and

18421
00:44:00,548 --> 00:44:01,984
zoning designation with other

18422
00:44:01,984 --> 00:44:03,080
hospital complexes throughout

18423
00:44:03,080 --> 00:44:04,290
the city.

18424
00:44:04,290 --> 00:44:05,482
and to bring the existing

18425
00:44:05,482 --> 00:44:07,456
hospital facility structures

18426
00:44:07,456 --> 00:44:08,894
into conformance and provide

18427
00:44:08,894 --> 00:44:10,502
land use and zoning that is

18428
00:44:10,502 --> 00:44:12,694
needed for any future

18429
00:44:12,694 --> 00:44:13,794
redevelopment and site

18430
00:44:13,794 --> 00:44:15,962
improvements as needed.

18431
00:44:15,962 --> 00:44:18,164
for additional context, this

18432
00:44:18,164 --> 00:44:20,374
area of the city was part of t

18433
00:44:20,374 --> 00:44:20,374
he

18434
00:44:20,374 --> 00:44:22,566
form-based city initiated land

18435
00:44:22,566 --> 00:44:22,566


18436
00:44:22,566 --> 00:44:24,500
use change and rezoning efforts

18437
00:44:24,500 --> 00:44:24,500


18438
00:44:24,500 --> 00:44:29,436
in 2017 with transect zoning.

18439
00:44:29,436 --> 00:44:31,074
in this case, it was near the

18440
00:44:31,074 --> 00:44:32,901
u.f. Campus in the periphery o

18441
00:44:32,901 --> 00:44:32,901
f

18442
00:44:32,901 --> 00:44:32,901
downtown.

18443
00:44:32,901 --> 00:44:35,362
and the next few slides are jus

18444
00:44:35,362 --> 00:44:35,362
t

18445
00:44:35,362 --> 00:44:36,618
going to provide some context to

18446
00:44:36,618 --> 00:44:36,618


18447
00:44:36,618 --> 00:44:37,752
the area before we get into the

18448
00:44:37,752 --> 00:44:37,752


18449
00:44:37,752 --> 00:44:39,858
criteria of the land use chang

18450
00:44:39,858 --> 00:44:39,858
e.

18451
00:44:39,858 --> 00:44:42,018
so this is an overhead imagery

18452
00:44:42,018 --> 00:44:42,018


18453
00:44:42,018 --> 00:44:43,122
showing the area and the

18454
00:44:43,122 --> 00:44:43,122
structures.

18455
00:44:43,122 --> 00:44:51,200
hihere is showing the u.f. Cam

18456
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:51,200
pus

18457
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:51,730
master plan agreement.

18458
00:44:51,730 --> 00:44:53,926
so it's outside of it, but it I

18459
00:44:53,926 --> 00:44:53,926
s

18460
00:44:53,926 --> 00:44:57,236
directly north of the parcels.

18461
00:44:57,236 --> 00:44:57,236


18462
00:44:57,236 --> 00:44:58,878
here is just a quick location

18463
00:44:58,878 --> 00:45:00,270
map for reference.

18464
00:45:00,270 --> 00:45:02,906
so north of the subject area I

18465
00:45:02,906 --> 00:45:02,906
s

18466
00:45:02,906 --> 00:45:05,208
archer road and then the main

18467
00:45:05,208 --> 00:45:07,746
u.f. Health shands facilities.

18468
00:45:07,746 --> 00:45:07,746


18469
00:45:07,746 --> 00:45:10,016
south is southwest 16th ave

18470
00:45:10,016 --> 00:45:12,988
and kind of a mixture of

18471
00:45:12,988 --> 00:45:14,852
apartments and restaurants,

18472
00:45:14,852 --> 00:45:15,580
office uses.

18473
00:45:15,580 --> 00:45:17,088
east is southwest 13th street

18474
00:45:17,088 --> 00:45:18,553
and then some multi-family and

18475
00:45:18,553 --> 00:45:18,553


18476
00:45:18,553 --> 00:45:19,762
restaurant uses.

18477
00:45:19,762 --> 00:45:23,026
and west of the subject area I

18478
00:45:23,026 --> 00:45:23,026
s

18479
00:45:23,026 --> 00:45:24,698
southwest 16th street and then

18480
00:45:24,698 --> 00:45:24,698


18481
00:45:24,698 --> 00:45:26,562
additional medical facilities

18482
00:45:26,562 --> 00:45:28,832
and the v.a. Hospital.

18483
00:45:28,832 --> 00:45:30,714
this is just a summary of those,

18484
00:45:30,714 --> 00:45:30,714


18485
00:45:30,714 --> 00:45:33,641
of what was just described.

18486
00:45:33,641 --> 00:45:36,171
and just to kind of give a

18487
00:45:36,171 --> 00:45:38,042
visual, so this would be if you  we

18488
00:45:38,042 --> 00:45:40,246
were on archer road where it

18489
00:45:40,246 --> 00:45:42,110
intersects with southwest 16th

18490
00:45:42,110 --> 00:45:42,110


18491
00:45:42,110 --> 00:45:45,216
street looking towards southwest

18492
00:45:45,216 --> 00:45:45,216


18493
00:45:45,216 --> 00:45:45,216
13th.

18494
00:45:45,216 --> 00:45:46,712
so like the grass and trees

18495
00:45:46,712 --> 00:45:48,372
area, that's like the v.a. Are

18496
00:45:48,372 --> 00:45:48,372
a.

18497
00:45:48,372 --> 00:45:50,224
and then you're staring directly

18498
00:45:50,224 --> 00:45:50,224


18499
00:45:50,224 --> 00:45:51,658
at the emergency room building.

18500
00:45:51,658 --> 00:45:51,658


18501
00:45:51,658 --> 00:45:53,258
just to kind of show how large

18502
00:45:53,258 --> 00:45:53,258


18503
00:45:53,258 --> 00:45:55,258
this area is.

18504
00:45:55,258 --> 00:45:56,992
this is at the intersection of

18505
00:45:56,992 --> 00:45:56,992


18506
00:45:56,992 --> 00:45:58,556
southwest 16th ave and

18507
00:45:58,556 --> 00:46:01,032
southwest 13th street looking

18508
00:46:01,032 --> 00:46:03,128
at northwest at the u.f.

18509
00:46:03,128 --> 00:46:05,008
healthsouth campus and seeing

18510
00:46:05,008 --> 00:46:06,003
the majority of the structures.

18511
00:46:06,003 --> 00:46:06,003


18512
00:46:06,003 --> 00:46:08,872
and lastly, if you are on

18513
00:46:08,872 --> 00:46:10,578
southwest 13th street looking

18514
00:46:10,578 --> 00:46:11,778
towards archer road which is

18515
00:46:11,778 --> 00:46:15,712
past the dna bridge, the trees

18516
00:46:15,712 --> 00:46:15,712


18517
00:46:15,712 --> 00:46:17,580
on the left are the smaller

18518
00:46:17,580 --> 00:46:20,950
parcels that are part of this.

18519
00:46:20,950 --> 00:46:20,950


18520
00:46:20,950 --> 00:46:23,288
and then just a quick recap of

18521
00:46:23,288 --> 00:46:23,288


18522
00:46:23,288 --> 00:46:25,153
the petition timeline, so there

18523
00:46:25,153 --> 00:46:25,153


18524
00:46:25,153 --> 00:46:26,687
was a pre-application meeting,

18525
00:46:26,687 --> 00:46:26,890
a

18526
00:46:26,890 --> 00:46:28,523
neighborhood workshop, the cit

18527
00:46:28,523 --> 00:46:28,523
y

18528
00:46:28,523 --> 00:46:30,055
staff review and then it went

18529
00:46:30,055 --> 00:46:31,960
before the plan board on

18530
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:33,107
september 18th.

18531
00:46:33,107 --> 00:46:33,808
now it's before you today for

18532
00:46:33,808 --> 00:46:34,776
the first reading.

18533
00:46:34,776 --> 00:46:36,435
and this is just a quick recap

18534
00:46:36,435 --> 00:46:36,435


18535
00:46:36,435 --> 00:46:37,774
of all the public notice for

18536
00:46:37,774 --> 00:46:40,504
those meetings being held

18537
00:46:40,504 --> 00:46:41,444
including the neighborhood

18538
00:46:41,444 --> 00:46:41,444
workshop.

18539
00:46:41,444 --> 00:46:44,118
the plan board meeting and the

18540
00:46:44,118 --> 00:46:44,118


18541
00:46:44,118 --> 00:46:45,878
city commission meeting

18542
00:46:45,878 --> 00:46:47,088
including property signs,

18543
00:46:47,088 --> 00:46:51,934
postcards and the newspaper ads

18544
00:46:51,934 --> 00:46:51,934
.

18545
00:46:51,934 --> 00:46:53,226
so this petition was reviewed

18546
00:46:53,226 --> 00:46:55,086
using the criteria outlined in

18547
00:46:55,086 --> 00:46:55,086


18548
00:46:55,086 --> 00:46:58,556
section 30-3.13 of the land

18549
00:46:58,556 --> 00:46:59,030
development code and

18550
00:46:59,030 --> 00:47:00,223
corresponding sections of the

18551
00:47:00,223 --> 00:47:01,128
comp plan for the city of

18552
00:47:01,128 --> 00:47:01,128
gainesville.

18553
00:47:01,128 --> 00:47:03,561
the criteria shown on this sli

18554
00:47:03,561 --> 00:47:03,561
de

18555
00:47:03,561 --> 00:47:04,928
are explored in more detail in

18556
00:47:04,928 --> 00:47:04,928


18557
00:47:04,928 --> 00:47:06,929
the backup and staff report.

18558
00:47:06,929 --> 00:47:08,512
I just have a few quick points

18559
00:47:08,512 --> 00:47:08,662
I

18560
00:47:08,662 --> 00:47:09,736
wanted to expand on.

18561
00:47:09,736 --> 00:47:11,506
just to recap, the proposed

18562
00:47:11,506 --> 00:47:15,542
changes to go from umuh to o f

18563
00:47:15,542 --> 00:47:15,542
or

18564
00:47:15,542 --> 00:47:18,712
office, to hit on redevelopment,

18565
00:47:18,712 --> 00:47:18,712


18566
00:47:18,712 --> 00:47:20,240
the site is already developed

18567
00:47:20,240 --> 00:47:22,326
and has established

18568
00:47:22,326 --> 00:47:24,134
streetscapes, multimodal forms

18569
00:47:24,134 --> 00:47:24,134


18570
00:47:24,134 --> 00:47:26,052
of transportation, vehicular a

18571
00:47:26,052 --> 00:47:26,052
nd

18572
00:47:26,052 --> 00:47:27,485
pedestrian circulation and

18573
00:47:27,485 --> 00:47:28,694
building frontage.

18574
00:47:28,694 --> 00:47:29,556
any future development would

18575
00:47:29,556 --> 00:47:31,619
retain the pattern per the

18576
00:47:31,619 --> 00:47:33,401
submittal by the applicant but

18577
00:47:33,401 --> 00:47:33,401


18578
00:47:33,401 --> 00:47:36,464
would still be held to office

18579
00:47:36,464 --> 00:47:39,395
and the proposed md zoning if

18580
00:47:39,395 --> 00:47:40,496
approved in the companion

18581
00:47:40,496 --> 00:47:40,496
application.

18582
00:47:40,496 --> 00:47:45,334
for compatibility, on this map,

18583
00:47:45,334 --> 00:47:45,334
w

18584
00:47:45,334 --> 00:47:48,270
we can see directly to the wes

18585
00:47:48,270 --> 00:47:48,270
t

18586
00:47:48,270 --> 00:47:50,772
where the v.a. Hospital is, tha

18587
00:47:50,772 --> 00:47:50,772
t

18588
00:47:50,772 --> 00:47:52,076
has the office land use.

18589
00:47:52,076 --> 00:47:57,684
so this would let it extend on

18590
00:47:57,684 --> 00:47:57,684


18591
00:47:57,684 --> 00:48:00,620
to the u.f. Health south campu

18592
00:48:00,620 --> 00:48:00,620
s.

18593
00:48:00,620 --> 00:48:02,056
on that compatibility, here is

18594
00:48:02,056 --> 00:48:02,283
a

18595
00:48:02,283 --> 00:48:05,464
table showing other hospital

18596
00:48:05,464 --> 00:48:06,300
complex properties in the city

18597
00:48:06,300 --> 00:48:06,300


18598
00:48:06,300 --> 00:48:08,292
just to kind of show how those

18599
00:48:08,292 --> 00:48:08,292


18600
00:48:08,292 --> 00:48:10,827
have similar land use and zonin

18601
00:48:10,827 --> 00:48:10,827
g

18602
00:48:10,827 --> 00:48:12,028
districts of what the purpose o

18603
00:48:12,028 --> 00:48:12,028
f

18604
00:48:12,028 --> 00:48:14,471
this application is for to have

18605
00:48:14,471 --> 00:48:14,471


18606
00:48:14,471 --> 00:48:16,067
consistency in that.

18607
00:48:16,067 --> 00:48:18,477
so a couple are listed here,

18608
00:48:18,477 --> 00:48:19,801
including like north florida,

18609
00:48:19,801 --> 00:48:23,408
the v.a. Hospital, hca archer,

18610
00:48:23,408 --> 00:48:23,408


18611
00:48:23,408 --> 00:48:24,374
showing they also have that

18612
00:48:24,374 --> 00:48:25,812
office land use designation.

18613
00:48:25,812 --> 00:48:28,681
and with the companion rezoning

18614
00:48:28,681 --> 00:48:28,681


18615
00:48:28,681 --> 00:48:29,877
application, the medical

18616
00:48:29,877 --> 00:48:29,877
services.

18617
00:48:29,877 --> 00:48:38,553
and then to touch on conformance

18618
00:48:38,553 --> 00:48:38,553


18619
00:48:38,553 --> 00:48:40,422
with the land use categories,

18620
00:48:40,422 --> 00:48:42,292
this is just a brief summary o

18621
00:48:42,292 --> 00:48:42,292
f

18622
00:48:42,292 --> 00:48:43,499
some of the differences between

18623
00:48:43,499 --> 00:48:43,499


18624
00:48:43,499 --> 00:48:45,036
the current land use category

18625
00:48:45,036 --> 00:48:46,000
and the proposed one.

18626
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:47,713
this is taken from the future

18627
00:48:47,713 --> 00:48:48,477
land use element of the

18628
00:48:48,477 --> 00:48:49,828
comprehensive plan.

18629
00:48:49,828 --> 00:48:55,310
policy.

18630
00:48:55,310 --> 00:48:57,039
so when comparing them with

18631
00:48:57,039 --> 00:48:58,712
highlight, umuh which is the

18632
00:48:58,712 --> 00:49:00,982
current one has a six-story

18633
00:49:00,982 --> 00:49:03,414
maximum, eight stories with

18634
00:49:03,414 --> 00:49:03,414
bonus.

18635
00:49:03,414 --> 00:49:05,610
office has a five-story maximum

18636
00:49:05,610 --> 00:49:05,610


18637
00:49:05,610 --> 00:49:07,819
and then it also has the

18638
00:49:07,819 --> 00:49:09,861
addition of specifically for

18639
00:49:09,861 --> 00:49:11,156
large scale medical facilities

18640
00:49:11,156 --> 00:49:11,156


18641
00:49:11,156 --> 00:49:13,691
that are located in medical

18642
00:49:13,691 --> 00:49:17,061
services zoning, they can go u

18643
00:49:17,061 --> 00:49:17,061
p

18644
00:49:17,061 --> 00:49:17,900
to 14 stories but they have to

18645
00:49:17,900 --> 00:49:17,900


18646
00:49:17,900 --> 00:49:19,499
have a special use permit whic

18647
00:49:19,499 --> 00:49:19,499
h

18648
00:49:19,499 --> 00:49:21,766
is a special review process.

18649
00:49:21,766 --> 00:49:23,431
those also go before the city

18650
00:49:23,431 --> 00:49:24,399
plan board.

18651
00:49:24,399 --> 00:49:25,497
just something to keep in m

18652
00:49:25,497 --> 00:49:28,340
with that.

18653
00:49:28,340 --> 00:49:31,499
and in addition, this petition

18654
00:49:31,499 --> 00:49:31,499


18655
00:49:31,499 --> 00:49:32,477
specifically is just for the

18656
00:49:32,477 --> 00:49:34,058
land use but I did want to

18657
00:49:34,058 --> 00:49:36,849
provide context that the next

18658
00:49:36,849 --> 00:49:38,614
petition will be for the zonin

18659
00:49:38,614 --> 00:49:38,614
g.

18660
00:49:38,614 --> 00:49:39,584
per our land development code

18661
00:49:39,584 --> 00:49:41,685
and comprehensive plan, the onl

18662
00:49:41,685 --> 00:49:41,685
y

18663
00:49:41,685 --> 00:49:42,785
future land use category that

18664
00:49:42,785 --> 00:49:45,383
allows for the proposed medical

18665
00:49:45,383 --> 00:49:45,383


18666
00:49:45,383 --> 00:49:46,726
services zoning is the office

18667
00:49:46,726 --> 00:49:47,260
land use.

18668
00:49:47,260 --> 00:49:48,912
so just important to keep in

18669
00:49:48,912 --> 00:49:52,297
mind for compatibility purpose

18670
00:49:52,297 --> 00:49:52,297
s.

18671
00:49:52,297 --> 00:49:53,860
and my last point on this is t

18672
00:49:53,860 --> 00:49:53,860
he

18673
00:49:53,860 --> 00:49:55,363
office land use in our

18674
00:49:55,363 --> 00:49:56,333
comprehensive plan does

18675
00:49:56,333 --> 00:50:00,500
highlight that it is for like

18676
00:50:00,500 --> 00:50:02,078
hospital uses, as one of the

18677
00:50:02,078 --> 00:50:04,537
parts that it's for.

18678
00:50:04,537 --> 00:50:05,538
in addition to that, the

18679
00:50:05,538 --> 00:50:08,042
specific use of hospital is onl

18680
00:50:08,042 --> 00:50:08,042
y

18681
00:50:08,042 --> 00:50:10,241
permitted in that medical

18682
00:50:10,241 --> 00:50:11,781
services zoning which is only

18683
00:50:11,781 --> 00:50:13,318
allowed in the office land use

18684
00:50:13,318 --> 00:50:13,318
.

18685
00:50:13,318 --> 00:50:14,817
so just to connect all the dot

18686
00:50:14,817 --> 00:50:14,817
s

18687
00:50:14,817 --> 00:50:18,125
on that.

18688
00:50:18,125 --> 00:50:20,424
this was just a broader map to

18689
00:50:20,424 --> 00:50:20,424


18690
00:50:20,424 --> 00:50:22,738
use if needed.

18691
00:50:22,738 --> 00:50:24,259
and that brings us to the end,

18692
00:50:24,259 --> 00:50:24,259


18693
00:50:24,259 --> 00:50:25,898
so based on the review of this

18694
00:50:25,898 --> 00:50:25,898


18695
00:50:25,898 --> 00:50:26,862
criteria, staff recommends

18696
00:50:26,862 --> 00:50:28,965
approval of this petition.

18697
00:50:28,965 --> 00:50:30,635
and the city plan board on

18698
00:50:30,635 --> 00:50:33,618
december 18th, 2025 voted 6-0

18699
00:50:33,618 --> 00:50:35,072
to recommend approval of

18700
00:50:35,072 --> 00:50:39,775
petition ld 25-000104 as well.

18701
00:50:39,775 --> 00:50:39,775


18702
00:50:39,775 --> 00:50:40,875
we are available for any

18703
00:50:40,875 --> 00:50:40,875
questions.

18704
00:50:40,875 --> 00:50:42,850
and the applicant also has a

18705
00:50:42,850 --> 00:50:42,850
presentation.

18706
00:50:42,850 --> 00:50:44,747
>> mayor: okay.

18707
00:50:44,747 --> 00:50:45,280
>> thank you.

18708
00:50:45,280 --> 00:50:46,315
>> mayor: thank you.

18709
00:50:46,315 --> 00:50:48,185
the applicant want to come up

18710
00:50:48,185 --> 00:50:53,221
and walk us through it?

18711
00:50:53,221 --> 00:50:54,847
>> good evening, mr. Mayor,

18712
00:50:54,847 --> 00:50:54,847
commissioners.

18713
00:50:54,847 --> 00:51:00,661
ryan thompson, mv5, the agency

18714
00:51:00,661 --> 00:51:00,661


18715
00:51:00,661 --> 00:51:03,434
agent for the applicant.

18716
00:51:03,434 --> 00:51:06,134
essentially we're here to allow

18717
00:51:06,134 --> 00:51:06,134


18718
00:51:06,134 --> 00:51:07,418
this property to develop like

18719
00:51:07,418 --> 00:51:09,109
all of their hospital campuses

18720
00:51:09,109 --> 00:51:09,109


18721
00:51:09,109 --> 00:51:10,339
in the city of gainesville.

18722
00:51:10,339 --> 00:51:15,907
when the city went through the

18723
00:51:15,907 --> 00:51:15,907


18724
00:51:15,907 --> 00:51:23,023
transect zone it was the u9.

18725
00:51:23,023 --> 00:51:25,091
the previous zoning district

18726
00:51:25,091 --> 00:51:26,825
standards, there's a concern

18727
00:51:26,825 --> 00:51:32,336
that there may be some

18728
00:51:32,336 --> 00:51:35,512
conformance challenges with th

18729
00:51:35,512 --> 00:51:35,512
e

18730
00:51:35,512 --> 00:51:35,512
property.

18731
00:51:35,512 --> 00:51:37,274
and we just want to make sure

18732
00:51:37,274 --> 00:51:38,906
that none of that is the case.

18733
00:51:38,906 --> 00:51:38,906


18734
00:51:38,906 --> 00:51:41,775
then we also want to maximize

18735
00:51:41,775 --> 00:51:45,507
the opportunities on this site

18736
00:51:45,507 --> 00:51:45,507


18737
00:51:45,507 --> 00:51:47,118
for u.f. Health and our

18738
00:51:47,118 --> 00:51:47,118
community.

18739
00:51:47,118 --> 00:51:54,688
the first application is -- and

18740
00:51:54,688 --> 00:51:54,688


18741
00:51:54,688 --> 00:51:56,425
by the way, I do have a combine

18742
00:51:56,425 --> 00:51:56,425
d

18743
00:51:56,425 --> 00:51:57,964
presentation if that's okay wit

18744
00:51:57,964 --> 00:51:57,964
h

18745
00:51:57,964 --> 00:51:58,713
this commission.

18746
00:51:58,713 --> 00:51:58,713
okay.

18747
00:51:58,713 --> 00:52:03,556
the first application is for

18748
00:52:03,556 --> 00:52:04,194
comprehensive plan amendment

18749
00:52:04,194 --> 00:52:07,159
from umuh to office.

18750
00:52:07,159 --> 00:52:09,112
and a rezoning from u9 to

18751
00:52:09,112 --> 00:52:10,538
medical services.

18752
00:52:10,538 --> 00:52:13,039
and again, we're just looking

18753
00:52:13,039 --> 00:52:14,305
for what all other hospital

18754
00:52:14,305 --> 00:52:18,321
campuses have within the city o

18755
00:52:18,321 --> 00:52:18,321
f

18756
00:52:18,321 --> 00:52:18,321
gainesville.

18757
00:52:18,321 --> 00:52:21,041
we did properly notice the

18758
00:52:21,041 --> 00:52:22,950
public for our neighborhood

18759
00:52:22,950 --> 00:52:22,950
workshop.

18760
00:52:22,950 --> 00:52:25,649
we had four attendees,

18761
00:52:25,649 --> 00:52:27,951
discussions about the zoning

18762
00:52:27,951 --> 00:52:29,160
change and what is most

18763
00:52:29,160 --> 00:52:31,787
appropriate for this site given

18764
00:52:31,787 --> 00:52:31,787


18765
00:52:31,787 --> 00:52:32,656
the context of development

18766
00:52:32,656 --> 00:52:34,959
that's already occurred.

18767
00:52:34,959 --> 00:52:36,393
we have followed the city's

18768
00:52:36,393 --> 00:52:39,357
process for small scale

18769
00:52:39,357 --> 00:52:40,580
comprehensive plan amendment a

18770
00:52:40,580 --> 00:52:40,580
nd

18771
00:52:40,580 --> 00:52:45,127
rezoning applications.

18772
00:52:45,127 --> 00:52:47,040
the justification for the

18773
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:48,873
request, there's multiple point

18774
00:52:48,873 --> 00:52:48,873
s

18775
00:52:48,873 --> 00:52:50,510
here that should be made.

18776
00:52:50,510 --> 00:52:52,709
one that's not on here is the

18777
00:52:52,709 --> 00:52:54,149
demand for hospital beds is

18778
00:52:54,149 --> 00:52:57,095
going up as our population age

18779
00:52:57,095 --> 00:52:57,095
s.

18780
00:52:57,095 --> 00:53:00,048
and they desire -- and industry

18781
00:53:00,048 --> 00:53:00,048


18782
00:53:00,048 --> 00:53:02,119
trends that are going towards

18783
00:53:02,119 --> 00:53:03,228
single occupancy rooms.

18784
00:53:03,228 --> 00:53:04,755
so the amount of square footag

18785
00:53:04,755 --> 00:53:04,755
e

18786
00:53:04,755 --> 00:53:06,157
in the facilities that u.f.

18787
00:53:06,157 --> 00:53:08,791
health has currently will reduc

18788
00:53:08,791 --> 00:53:08,791
e

18789
00:53:08,791 --> 00:53:11,867
the number of people that they

18790
00:53:11,867 --> 00:53:11,867


18791
00:53:11,867 --> 00:53:14,271
will be able to treat, switching

18792
00:53:14,271 --> 00:53:14,271


18793
00:53:14,271 --> 00:53:16,665
from multiple occupant rooms t

18794
00:53:16,665 --> 00:53:16,665
o

18795
00:53:16,665 --> 00:53:21,273
single occupant rooms.

18796
00:53:21,273 --> 00:53:22,580
and they are obviously

18797
00:53:22,580 --> 00:53:24,109
constrained in their capacity

18798
00:53:24,109 --> 00:53:26,417
with their existing facilities.

18799
00:53:26,417 --> 00:53:26,417


18800
00:53:26,417 --> 00:53:28,181
the south campus is

18801
00:53:28,181 --> 00:53:29,579
substantially built and site

18802
00:53:29,579 --> 00:53:29,579
constrained.

18803
00:53:29,579 --> 00:53:32,049
redevelopment on this site nee

18804
00:53:32,049 --> 00:53:32,049
ds

18805
00:53:32,049 --> 00:53:35,545
to occur vertically.

18806
00:53:35,545 --> 00:53:37,853
and on site hospitals were

18807
00:53:37,853 --> 00:53:40,790
permitted under umu2 standards

18808
00:53:40,790 --> 00:53:40,790


18809
00:53:40,790 --> 00:53:42,459
as I mentioned before.

18810
00:53:42,459 --> 00:53:43,763
and this is the only hospita

18811
00:53:43,763 --> 00:53:47,133
campus in the city of

18812
00:53:47,133 --> 00:53:47,695
gainesville that does not have

18813
00:53:47,695 --> 00:53:47,695


18814
00:53:47,695 --> 00:53:50,331
the offic land use designation

18815
00:53:50,331 --> 00:53:50,331


18816
00:53:50,331 --> 00:53:53,266
of medical services district.

18817
00:53:53,266 --> 00:53:55,131
and the md zoning district was

18818
00:53:55,131 --> 00:53:55,131


18819
00:53:55,131 --> 00:53:56,877
specifically intended for these

18820
00:53:56,877 --> 00:53:56,877


18821
00:53:56,877 --> 00:54:02,353
types of facilities.

18822
00:54:02,353 --> 00:54:03,823
this is a context map of the

18823
00:54:03,823 --> 00:54:03,823
site.

18824
00:54:03,823 --> 00:54:06,713
I will work through these

18825
00:54:06,713 --> 00:54:08,919
quickly due to staff's thorough

18826
00:54:08,919 --> 00:54:08,919


18827
00:54:08,919 --> 00:54:08,919
presentation.

18828
00:54:08,919 --> 00:54:12,358
we're bound to the north by

18829
00:54:12,358 --> 00:54:14,390
archer road and to the east by

18830
00:54:14,390 --> 00:54:14,390


18831
00:54:14,390 --> 00:54:16,907
13th street.

18832
00:54:16,907 --> 00:54:19,860
and immediately south of the

18833
00:54:19,860 --> 00:54:21,163
university of florida main

18834
00:54:21,163 --> 00:54:21,163
campus.

18835
00:54:21,163 --> 00:54:24,115
it's effectively an extension o

18836
00:54:24,115 --> 00:54:24,115
f

18837
00:54:24,115 --> 00:54:27,065
u.f. Health facilities there.

18838
00:54:27,065 --> 00:54:29,371
this is a close-up of the site.

18839
00:54:29,371 --> 00:54:29,371


18840
00:54:29,371 --> 00:54:31,877
again, the adjacent roadways.

18841
00:54:31,877 --> 00:54:35,281
u.f. Health shands to the north

18842
00:54:35,281 --> 00:54:35,281
,

18843
00:54:35,281 --> 00:54:37,011
the v.a. Hospital which has the

18844
00:54:37,011 --> 00:54:37,011


18845
00:54:37,011 --> 00:54:39,748
office land use and medical

18846
00:54:39,748 --> 00:54:41,949
services zoning to the west.

18847
00:54:41,949 --> 00:54:46,253
and typically, apartments or

18848
00:54:46,253 --> 00:54:48,083
auto-oriented retail type uses

18849
00:54:48,083 --> 00:54:48,083


18850
00:54:48,083 --> 00:54:52,270
to the east and to the south.

18851
00:54:52,270 --> 00:54:54,123
we did a little bit of site

18852
00:54:54,123 --> 00:54:55,201
assessment on the property.

18853
00:54:55,201 --> 00:54:57,105
there are two primary areas tha

18854
00:54:57,105 --> 00:54:57,105
t

18855
00:54:57,105 --> 00:54:58,427
would develop on this site.

18856
00:54:58,427 --> 00:55:00,403
there's a surface parking lot

18857
00:55:00,403 --> 00:55:02,673
along 16th to the west and

18858
00:55:02,673 --> 00:55:04,537
then a surface parking lot and

18859
00:55:04,537 --> 00:55:04,537


18860
00:55:04,537 --> 00:55:08,607
one story building along 13th

18861
00:55:08,607 --> 00:55:08,607
street.

18862
00:55:08,607 --> 00:55:11,979
you can see that this site is

18863
00:55:11,979 --> 00:55:13,121
substantially developed.

18864
00:55:13,121 --> 00:55:16,585
it's already established.

18865
00:55:16,585 --> 00:55:17,991
the frontage and streetscape

18866
00:55:17,991 --> 00:55:19,287
along archer road and 13th

18867
00:55:19,287 --> 00:55:20,497
street and redevelopment on the

18868
00:55:20,497 --> 00:55:20,497


18869
00:55:20,497 --> 00:55:21,632
site would continue in that

18870
00:55:21,632 --> 00:55:21,632
pattern.

18871
00:55:21,632 --> 00:55:25,974
there is substantial pedestria

18872
00:55:25,974 --> 00:55:25,974
n

18873
00:55:25,974 --> 00:55:29,029
facilities enter into the site

18874
00:55:29,029 --> 00:55:29,029


18875
00:55:29,029 --> 00:55:30,476
with wide sidewalks, some of

18876
00:55:30,476 --> 00:55:32,439
which are even covered and

18877
00:55:32,439 --> 00:55:34,635
amenities around the stormwate

18878
00:55:34,635 --> 00:55:34,635
r

18879
00:55:34,635 --> 00:55:37,905
ponds as well.

18880
00:55:37,905 --> 00:55:39,411
u.f. Health has done a

18881
00:55:39,411 --> 00:55:41,642
conceptual master plan as

18882
00:55:41,642 --> 00:55:42,894
identified these two areas for

18883
00:55:42,894 --> 00:55:42,894


18884
00:55:42,894 --> 00:55:42,894
development.

18885
00:55:42,894 --> 00:55:50,626
this is the existing land use of

18886
00:55:50,626 --> 00:55:50,626


18887
00:55:50,626 --> 00:55:51,622
the property.

18888
00:55:51,622 --> 00:55:55,211
it's umuh high as described in

18889
00:55:55,211 --> 00:55:55,211


18890
00:55:55,211 --> 00:55:56,307
the comprehensive plan.

18891
00:55:56,307 --> 00:55:57,553
it's aligned with multi-family

18892
00:55:57,553 --> 00:55:57,553


18893
00:55:57,553 --> 00:56:00,366
and commercial uses which

18894
00:56:00,366 --> 00:56:02,509
typically abut the university of

18895
00:56:02,509 --> 00:56:02,509


18896
00:56:02,509 --> 00:56:05,099
florida except in this case.

18897
00:56:05,099 --> 00:56:08,037
and the proposed is office whi

18898
00:56:08,037 --> 00:56:08,037
ch

18899
00:56:08,037 --> 00:56:13,141
is specifically allows hospita

18900
00:56:13,141 --> 00:56:13,141
ls

18901
00:56:13,141 --> 00:56:14,749
and medical uses.

18902
00:56:14,749 --> 00:56:17,481
the existing zoning is u9 which

18903
00:56:17,481 --> 00:56:17,481


18904
00:56:17,481 --> 00:56:19,541
is characterized in the land

18905
00:56:19,541 --> 00:56:20,851
development code for high

18906
00:56:20,851 --> 00:56:21,553
density residential and

18907
00:56:21,553 --> 00:56:23,157
commercial uses.

18908
00:56:23,157 --> 00:56:24,935
and the proposed md zoning

18909
00:56:24,935 --> 00:56:26,593
district is the only zoning

18910
00:56:26,593 --> 00:56:30,259
district specific for hospitals

18911
00:56:30,259 --> 00:56:30,259
.

18912
00:56:30,259 --> 00:56:31,587
and it's consistent with all

18913
00:56:31,587 --> 00:56:34,528
others in the city.

18914
00:56:34,528 --> 00:56:37,273
this is a step back from that

18915
00:56:37,273 --> 00:56:37,933
zoning map.

18916
00:56:37,933 --> 00:56:40,241
you can see that there are

18917
00:56:40,241 --> 00:56:41,670
medical facilities including t

18918
00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:41,670
he

18919
00:56:41,670 --> 00:56:43,407
v.a. Hospital that are along

18920
00:56:43,407 --> 00:56:45,275
this segment of archer road tha

18921
00:56:45,275 --> 00:56:45,275
t

18922
00:56:45,275 --> 00:56:47,381
share our requested land use a

18923
00:56:47,381 --> 00:56:47,381
nd

18924
00:56:47,381 --> 00:56:47,381
zoning.

18925
00:56:47,381 --> 00:56:50,412
and then looking at the other

18926
00:56:50,412 --> 00:56:53,281
facilities, we have north

18927
00:56:53,281 --> 00:56:55,049
florida to the north.

18928
00:56:55,049 --> 00:56:56,888
we have the v.a. Hospital to o

18929
00:56:56,888 --> 00:56:56,888
ur

18930
00:56:56,888 --> 00:56:56,888
west.

18931
00:56:56,888 --> 00:57:01,391
and we have the new hca facilit

18932
00:57:01,391 --> 00:57:01,391
y

18933
00:57:01,391 --> 00:57:03,195
on archer road and I-75 all

18934
00:57:03,195 --> 00:57:05,329
sharing the office land use and

18935
00:57:05,329 --> 00:57:05,329


18936
00:57:05,329 --> 00:57:07,527
md zoning.

18937
00:57:07,527 --> 00:57:09,393
staff has reviewed the

18938
00:57:09,393 --> 00:57:10,493
applications and found them

18939
00:57:10,493 --> 00:57:11,215
consistent with the

18940
00:57:11,215 --> 00:57:15,405
comprehensive plan.

18941
00:57:15,405 --> 00:57:17,275
this, in fact, would discourag

18942
00:57:17,275 --> 00:57:17,275
e

18943
00:57:17,275 --> 00:57:21,111
urban sprawl being that bewould

18944
00:57:21,111 --> 00:57:21,111


18945
00:57:21,111 --> 00:57:23,285
redevelop an infill and focus o

18946
00:57:23,285 --> 00:57:23,285
n

18947
00:57:23,285 --> 00:57:26,143
maximizing this campus.

18948
00:57:26,143 --> 00:57:29,213
and staff has also found the

18949
00:57:29,213 --> 00:57:30,821
code compliant -- or the

18950
00:57:30,821 --> 00:57:32,287
application compliant with the

18951
00:57:32,287 --> 00:57:32,287


18952
00:57:32,287 --> 00:57:35,285
land development code.

18953
00:57:35,285 --> 00:57:36,321
staff has recommended approval

18954
00:57:36,321 --> 00:57:36,321


18955
00:57:36,321 --> 00:57:37,961
for both the small scale

18956
00:57:37,961 --> 00:57:39,075
comprehensive plan amendment a

18957
00:57:39,075 --> 00:57:39,075
nd

18958
00:57:39,075 --> 00:57:41,167
rezoning applications.

18959
00:57:41,167 --> 00:57:42,131
and the city plan board

18960
00:57:42,131 --> 00:57:43,791
unanimously recommended approva

18961
00:57:43,791 --> 00:57:43,791
l

18962
00:57:43,791 --> 00:57:45,249
in december.

18963
00:57:45,249 --> 00:57:46,503
so with that, I'm happy to

18964
00:57:46,503 --> 00:57:47,272
answer any questions.

18965
00:57:47,272 --> 00:57:48,977
I hope I didn't belabor it too

18966
00:57:48,977 --> 00:57:48,977


18967
00:57:48,977 --> 00:57:48,977
much.

18968
00:57:48,977 --> 00:57:51,139
I know staff's presentation was

18969
00:57:51,139 --> 00:57:51,139


18970
00:57:51,139 --> 00:57:52,667
very thorough.

18971
00:57:52,667 --> 00:57:53,391
thank you very much.

18972
00:57:53,391 --> 00:57:55,251
>> mayor: thank you.

18973
00:57:55,251 --> 00:57:57,339
all right.

18974
00:57:57,339 --> 00:57:58,987
commissioner willits.

18975
00:57:58,987 --> 00:57:59,849
>> some quick questions for

18976
00:57:59,849 --> 00:57:59,849
staff.

18977
00:57:59,849 --> 00:58:03,905
would changing this land use -

18978
00:58:03,905 --> 00:58:03,905
-

18979
00:58:03,905 --> 00:58:06,563
and I guess potentially the

18980
00:58:06,563 --> 00:58:06,563
zoning.

18981
00:58:06,563 --> 00:58:09,866
I have a couple of specific --

18982
00:58:09,866 --> 00:58:09,866


18983
00:58:09,866 --> 00:58:12,665
>> mayor: hold on a second.

18984
00:58:12,665 --> 00:58:13,995
>> broadcast, we have a screen

18985
00:58:13,995 --> 00:58:13,995


18986
00:58:13,995 --> 00:58:18,701
that shows we are in recess.

18987
00:58:18,701 --> 00:58:21,099
>> the broadcast light is still

18988
00:58:21,099 --> 00:58:21,099


18989
00:58:21,099 --> 00:58:21,099
on.

18990
00:58:21,099 --> 00:58:25,613
>> mayor: yes.

18991
00:58:25,613 --> 00:58:26,675
we just need confirmation that

18992
00:58:26,675 --> 00:58:26,675


18993
00:58:26,675 --> 00:58:28,313
we are definitely broadcasting.

18994
00:58:28,313 --> 00:58:28,313


18995
00:58:28,313 --> 00:58:34,159
>> there's a thumb's up back

18996
00:58:34,159 --> 00:58:34,159
there.

18997
00:58:34,159 --> 00:58:36,117
>> I saw the light on.

18998
00:58:36,117 --> 00:58:36,590
>> mayor: all right.

18999
00:58:36,590 --> 00:58:37,645
if we're comfortable that we

19000
00:58:37,645 --> 00:58:39,485
have a thumb's up, go ahead.

19001
00:58:39,485 --> 00:58:40,329
>> sorry.

19002
00:58:40,329 --> 00:58:43,457
so the changing this to the

19003
00:58:43,457 --> 00:58:45,097
office, potential redevelopment

19004
00:58:45,097 --> 00:58:45,097
,

19005
00:58:45,097 --> 00:58:47,829
would this require -- the answe

19006
00:58:47,829 --> 00:58:47,829
r

19007
00:58:47,829 --> 00:58:49,600
is probably both the current a

19008
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:49,600
nd

19009
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,333
the proposed.

19010
00:58:51,333 --> 00:58:53,431
putting an additional sidewalk

19011
00:58:53,431 --> 00:58:53,431


19012
00:58:53,431 --> 00:58:54,969
on southwest 14th street on

19013
00:58:54,969 --> 00:58:56,039
the east side of that?

19014
00:58:56,039 --> 00:58:57,325
because right now there's one o

19015
00:58:57,325 --> 00:58:57,325
n

19016
00:58:57,325 --> 00:58:59,203
the west side closer to hotel

19017
00:58:59,203 --> 00:58:59,203
ellio.

19018
00:58:59,203 --> 00:59:03,673
but in the undeveloped one,

19019
00:59:03,673 --> 00:59:05,549
single story building and

19020
00:59:05,549 --> 00:59:06,451
parking lot, there's not a

19021
00:59:06,451 --> 00:59:07,415
sidewalk on that side.

19022
00:59:07,415 --> 00:59:09,626
I would assume both of these

19023
00:59:09,626 --> 00:59:11,819
zonings if redeveloped, they

19024
00:59:11,819 --> 00:59:13,323
would have to build a sidewalk

19025
00:59:13,323 --> 00:59:13,323


19026
00:59:13,323 --> 00:59:14,325
internal to the whole project

19027
00:59:14,325 --> 00:59:16,395
but along 14th street.

19028
00:59:16,395 --> 00:59:18,611
>> yeah, potentially.

19029
00:59:18,611 --> 00:59:21,197
it would come down to the land

19030
00:59:21,197 --> 00:59:21,197


19031
00:59:21,197 --> 00:59:22,431
development review and the sta

19032
00:59:22,431 --> 00:59:22,431
ff

19033
00:59:22,431 --> 00:59:23,291
analysis of that.

19034
00:59:23,291 --> 00:59:25,027
we'd work with transportation

19035
00:59:25,027 --> 00:59:26,233
and evaluate the code

19036
00:59:26,233 --> 00:59:30,252
requirements to verify like wh

19037
00:59:30,252 --> 00:59:30,252
at

19038
00:59:30,252 --> 00:59:32,043
is needed based on the scale a

19039
00:59:32,043 --> 00:59:32,043
nd

19040
00:59:32,043 --> 00:59:34,340
intensity of what is proposed

19041
00:59:34,340 --> 00:59:35,778
for redevelopment.

19042
00:59:35,778 --> 00:59:37,740
>> everything that was already

19043
00:59:37,740 --> 00:59:37,740


19044
00:59:37,740 --> 00:59:41,047
there under the current, you

19045
00:59:41,047 --> 00:59:41,930
know, development, there's a

19046
00:59:41,930 --> 00:59:43,550
sidewalk on every street

19047
00:59:43,550 --> 00:59:45,856
fronting face I believe

19048
00:59:45,856 --> 00:59:48,366
almost -- besides a little pie

19049
00:59:48,366 --> 00:59:48,366
ce

19050
00:59:48,366 --> 00:59:50,798
of 14th ave does not have a

19051
00:59:50,798 --> 00:59:51,525
sidewalk next to it.

19052
00:59:51,525 --> 00:59:53,494
so I just wondered what will

19053
00:59:53,494 --> 00:59:55,796
force -- will that force chang

19054
00:59:55,796 --> 00:59:55,796
es

19055
00:59:55,796 --> 00:59:56,894
on the opposite side.

19056
00:59:56,894 --> 01:00:00,986
so this -- why did we move it t

19057
01:00:00,986 --> 01:00:00,986
o

19058
01:00:00,986 --> 01:00:00,986
this?

19059
01:00:00,986 --> 01:00:04,238
well, we moved to transect

19060
01:00:04,238 --> 01:00:04,238
zones.

19061
01:00:04,238 --> 01:00:05,646
why that parcel?

19062
01:00:05,646 --> 01:00:07,178
how did it kind of get there

19063
01:00:07,178 --> 01:00:10,142
instead of being -- I know

19064
01:00:10,142 --> 01:00:12,020
decades ago or not that long

19065
01:00:12,020 --> 01:00:13,788
ago, there was an old hotel on

19066
01:00:13,788 --> 01:00:13,788


19067
01:00:13,788 --> 01:00:17,686
the site, which is much more a

19068
01:00:17,686 --> 01:00:17,686
n

19069
01:00:17,686 --> 01:00:20,948
ofurban use than office.

19070
01:00:20,948 --> 01:00:21,468
>> yes.

19071
01:00:21,468 --> 01:00:22,376
from my understanding from the

19072
01:00:22,376 --> 01:00:22,376


19073
01:00:22,376 --> 01:00:23,928
research for this staff report,

19074
01:00:23,928 --> 01:00:23,928


19075
01:00:23,928 --> 01:00:27,438
we looked back so prior to 2017

19076
01:00:27,438 --> 01:00:27,438


19077
01:00:27,438 --> 01:00:29,832
it was the umu-2.

19078
01:00:29,832 --> 01:00:33,638
and in 2017 when the transect

19079
01:00:33,638 --> 01:00:34,832
zoning and associated land use

19080
01:00:34,832 --> 01:00:34,832


19081
01:00:34,832 --> 01:00:37,042
categories were implemented,

19082
01:00:37,042 --> 01:00:40,980
with the comprehensive plan, t

19083
01:00:40,980 --> 01:00:40,980
he

19084
01:00:40,980 --> 01:00:42,608
umuh written in that category I

19085
01:00:42,608 --> 01:00:42,608
s

19086
01:00:42,608 --> 01:00:45,576
to use it for research and

19087
01:00:45,576 --> 01:00:47,016
development along the periphery

19088
01:00:47,016 --> 01:00:47,016


19089
01:00:47,016 --> 01:00:48,322
of u.f. Campus along the east

19090
01:00:48,322 --> 01:00:48,910
and west.

19091
01:00:48,910 --> 01:00:50,552
and I think that's where it ki

19092
01:00:50,552 --> 01:00:50,552
nd

19093
01:00:50,552 --> 01:00:52,616
of fell looking that way in

19094
01:00:52,616 --> 01:00:55,467
terms of the analysis of where

19095
01:00:55,467 --> 01:00:55,467


19096
01:00:55,467 --> 01:00:56,994
the campus was.

19097
01:00:56,994 --> 01:00:58,830
so I think that's why it was

19098
01:00:58,830 --> 01:01:02,096
rezoned that way.

19099
01:01:02,096 --> 01:01:03,772
that's what we found in the

19100
01:01:03,772 --> 01:01:03,772
analysis.

19101
01:01:03,772 --> 01:01:05,628
>> mayor: that rezoning, did I

19102
01:01:05,628 --> 01:01:05,628
t

19103
01:01:05,628 --> 01:01:08,934
happen in between the building

19104
01:01:08,934 --> 01:01:08,934


19105
01:01:08,934 --> 01:01:10,172
of the cancer center and the

19106
01:01:10,172 --> 01:01:13,412
heart and vascular hvn?

19107
01:01:13,412 --> 01:01:14,944
I'm trying to remember the

19108
01:01:14,944 --> 01:01:14,944
order.

19109
01:01:14,944 --> 01:01:18,382
I'm trying to remember when th

19110
01:01:18,382 --> 01:01:18,382
at

19111
01:01:18,382 --> 01:01:19,414
was done?

19112
01:01:19,414 --> 01:01:20,982
are they eight story hospitals

19113
01:01:20,982 --> 01:01:20,982


19114
01:01:20,982 --> 01:01:29,060
and this opens up to a 14 story

19115
01:01:29,060 --> 01:01:29,060
?

19116
01:01:29,060 --> 01:01:31,828
>> I'm dial trying to remember.

19117
01:01:31,828 --> 01:01:31,828


19118
01:01:31,828 --> 01:01:33,164
the built environment is

19119
01:01:33,164 --> 01:01:34,063
determined by the rules.

19120
01:01:34,063 --> 01:01:35,088
>> certainly, mr. Mayor, thank

19121
01:01:35,088 --> 01:01:35,088


19122
01:01:35,088 --> 01:01:35,088
you.

19123
01:01:35,088 --> 01:01:43,604
so the cancer hospital and the

19124
01:01:43,604 --> 01:01:43,604


19125
01:01:43,604 --> 01:01:45,676
13th garage were in 2009.

19126
01:01:45,676 --> 01:01:51,768
the hvn hospital was --

19127
01:01:51,768 --> 01:01:53,018
>> it was before that.

19128
01:01:53,018 --> 01:01:56,090
>> they were both under the umu

19129
01:01:56,090 --> 01:01:56,090


19130
01:01:56,090 --> 01:01:56,548
2 standards.

19131
01:01:56,548 --> 01:01:58,252
>> and now looking to the next.

19132
01:01:58,252 --> 01:01:58,252


19133
01:01:58,252 --> 01:01:59,688
>> mr. Mayor, if I may opine o

19134
01:01:59,688 --> 01:01:59,688
n

19135
01:01:59,688 --> 01:02:01,762
your previous question.

19136
01:02:01,762 --> 01:02:03,160
certainly, they would put

19137
01:02:03,160 --> 01:02:04,060
sidewalks there when that

19138
01:02:04,060 --> 01:02:04,826
portion of the site is

19139
01:02:04,826 --> 01:02:09,308
redeveloped regardless of what

19140
01:02:09,308 --> 01:02:09,308


19141
01:02:09,308 --> 01:02:12,922
the uldc or land development

19142
01:02:12,922 --> 01:02:13,354
code requires.

19143
01:02:13,354 --> 01:02:15,138
>> I was wondering because

19144
01:02:15,138 --> 01:02:16,419
southwest 14th ave swimming

19145
01:02:16,419 --> 01:02:18,512
pools to 14th street doesn't

19146
01:02:18,512 --> 01:02:19,642
have sidewalks.

19147
01:02:19,642 --> 01:02:21,150
as someone who has walked that

19148
01:02:21,150 --> 01:02:21,150


19149
01:02:21,150 --> 01:02:23,342
site many, many times as it's

19150
01:02:23,342 --> 01:02:24,684
between work and home, it is

19151
01:02:24,684 --> 01:02:26,016
frustrating there is not a

19152
01:02:26,016 --> 01:02:27,280
sidewalk on southwest 14th.

19153
01:02:27,280 --> 01:02:28,482
I understand maybe that's not

19154
01:02:28,482 --> 01:02:29,720
where you want people to walk

19155
01:02:29,720 --> 01:02:30,542
because that's where the

19156
01:02:30,542 --> 01:02:31,652
ambulances are coming in and

19157
01:02:31,652 --> 01:02:31,652
out.

19158
01:02:31,652 --> 01:02:33,885
but the truth is, you know --

19159
01:02:33,885 --> 01:02:34,784
>> I understand.

19160
01:02:34,784 --> 01:02:35,820
>> people would prefer to walk

19161
01:02:35,820 --> 01:02:35,820


19162
01:02:35,820 --> 01:02:36,930
through the middle of a

19163
01:02:36,930 --> 01:02:37,794
beautiful campus than down on

19164
01:02:37,794 --> 01:02:39,858
some of the arterial roads.

19165
01:02:39,858 --> 01:02:40,468
>> certainly.

19166
01:02:40,468 --> 01:02:41,598
>> that's why I asked about the

19167
01:02:41,598 --> 01:02:41,598


19168
01:02:41,598 --> 01:02:45,666
internal because I know I use I

19169
01:02:45,666 --> 01:02:45,666
t

19170
01:02:45,666 --> 01:02:47,401
to cut through.

19171
01:02:47,401 --> 01:02:48,402
it's very pleasant.

19172
01:02:48,402 --> 01:02:51,134
fountains and ponds and ducks o

19173
01:02:51,134 --> 01:02:51,134
r

19174
01:02:51,134 --> 01:02:51,134
whatever.

19175
01:02:51,134 --> 01:02:52,780
>> certainly.

19176
01:02:52,780 --> 01:02:53,380
thank you, mr. Mayor.

19177
01:02:53,380 --> 01:02:54,690
>> and then so I think that's

19178
01:02:54,690 --> 01:02:54,690
it.

19179
01:02:54,690 --> 01:02:57,386
this could potentially be a muc

19180
01:02:57,386 --> 01:02:57,386
h

19181
01:02:57,386 --> 01:02:58,572
larger tower on that southeast

19182
01:02:58,572 --> 01:02:58,572


19183
01:02:58,572 --> 01:02:58,572
corner.

19184
01:02:58,572 --> 01:03:00,605
like it could be a 14 story

19185
01:03:00,605 --> 01:03:05,486
hospital or support office for

19186
01:03:05,486 --> 01:03:05,584
a

19187
01:03:05,584 --> 01:03:08,698
hospital in the future.

19188
01:03:08,698 --> 01:03:08,998
>> yes.

19189
01:03:08,998 --> 01:03:12,459
and just as confirmation, with

19190
01:03:12,459 --> 01:03:12,459


19191
01:03:12,459 --> 01:03:14,866
the office land use if approve

19192
01:03:14,866 --> 01:03:14,866
d,

19193
01:03:14,866 --> 01:03:16,410
they would have to apply for a

19194
01:03:16,410 --> 01:03:16,410


19195
01:03:16,410 --> 01:03:18,694
special use permit.

19196
01:03:18,694 --> 01:03:19,804
that would have to go through

19197
01:03:19,804 --> 01:03:20,542
staff review.

19198
01:03:20,542 --> 01:03:22,978
there would be public engagemen

19199
01:03:22,978 --> 01:03:22,978
t

19200
01:03:22,978 --> 01:03:24,042
associated with that, a

19201
01:03:24,042 --> 01:03:25,168
neighborhood workshop.

19202
01:03:25,168 --> 01:03:27,444
and it would go before the cit

19203
01:03:27,444 --> 01:03:27,444
y

19204
01:03:27,444 --> 01:03:27,902
plan board.

19205
01:03:27,902 --> 01:03:29,302
>> but not before the city

19206
01:03:29,302 --> 01:03:30,414
commission because special use

19207
01:03:30,414 --> 01:03:30,414


19208
01:03:30,414 --> 01:03:32,476
permits are only done --

19209
01:03:32,476 --> 01:03:33,696
>> correct, yeah.

19210
01:03:33,696 --> 01:03:34,408
>> through the plan board.

19211
01:03:34,408 --> 01:03:35,850
well, this all makes sense.

19212
01:03:35,850 --> 01:03:37,386
I did see when the sign got

19213
01:03:37,386 --> 01:03:38,592
stakeholder and asked city sta

19214
01:03:38,592 --> 01:03:38,592
ff

19215
01:03:38,592 --> 01:03:40,560
so I got a little head's up

19216
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:41,790
about some of this internal.

19217
01:03:41,790 --> 01:03:45,234
I'm glad some members of the

19218
01:03:45,234 --> 01:03:46,204
public went to the meeting at

19219
01:03:46,204 --> 01:03:49,534
least through zoom or teams.

19220
01:03:49,534 --> 01:03:50,730
it is a little weird, but it

19221
01:03:50,730 --> 01:03:52,602
does make sense that if office

19222
01:03:52,602 --> 01:03:52,602


19223
01:03:52,602 --> 01:03:53,934
is more appropriate, like the

19224
01:03:53,934 --> 01:03:57,206
other ones.

19225
01:03:57,206 --> 01:03:58,146
do you know this personally in

19226
01:03:58,146 --> 01:03:58,146


19227
01:03:58,146 --> 01:03:58,872
your district?

19228
01:03:58,872 --> 01:04:00,184
>> uh-huh.

19229
01:04:00,184 --> 01:04:01,410
>> that very little corner.

19230
01:04:01,410 --> 01:04:02,280
I don't think they are going t

19231
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:02,280
o

19232
01:04:02,280 --> 01:04:03,038
build anything on it.

19233
01:04:03,038 --> 01:04:05,348
on my corner, they might.

19234
01:04:05,348 --> 01:04:10,391
with that, I would like to mov

19235
01:04:10,391 --> 01:04:10,391
e

19236
01:04:10,391 --> 01:04:13,686
adoption of 2025-992, u.f.

19237
01:04:13,686 --> 01:04:15,458
health south campus land use

19238
01:04:15,458 --> 01:04:15,458
change.

19239
01:04:15,458 --> 01:04:17,537
>> second.

19240
01:04:17,537 --> 01:04:18,390
>> mayor: motion and second.

19241
01:04:18,390 --> 01:04:19,600
commissioner -- excuse me,

19242
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:23,809
mr. Manager.

19243
01:04:23,809 --> 01:04:24,524
>> thank you, mr. Mayor.

19244
01:04:24,524 --> 01:04:27,602
mr. Thompson answered the

19245
01:04:27,602 --> 01:04:27,602
question.

19246
01:04:27,602 --> 01:04:29,473
I think I wrote the staff repor

19247
01:04:29,473 --> 01:04:29,473
t

19248
01:04:29,473 --> 01:04:31,331
back in the day but mr. Thompso

19249
01:04:31,331 --> 01:04:31,331
n

19250
01:04:31,331 --> 01:04:32,008
answered it.

19251
01:04:32,008 --> 01:04:32,837
>> mayor: commissioner eastman.

19252
01:04:32,837 --> 01:04:32,837


19253
01:04:32,837 --> 01:04:33,605
>> you answered a lot of my

19254
01:04:33,605 --> 01:04:33,605
questions.

19255
01:04:33,605 --> 01:04:36,808
I was confused similarly why we

19256
01:04:36,808 --> 01:04:36,808


19257
01:04:36,808 --> 01:04:41,818
would be going down in intense

19258
01:04:41,818 --> 01:04:41,818


19259
01:04:41,818 --> 01:04:42,390
to medical.

19260
01:04:42,390 --> 01:04:44,793
first it says here in permitted

19261
01:04:44,793 --> 01:04:44,793


19262
01:04:44,793 --> 01:04:46,453
use, hospital not listed.

19263
01:04:46,453 --> 01:04:47,860
health services permitted.

19264
01:04:47,860 --> 01:04:49,156
I was looking through our code.

19265
01:04:49,156 --> 01:04:49,156


19266
01:04:49,156 --> 01:04:51,042
is a hospital considered health

19267
01:04:51,042 --> 01:04:51,042


19268
01:04:51,042 --> 01:04:52,358
services because it's two

19269
01:04:52,358 --> 01:04:53,626
different sections of our code.

19270
01:04:53,626 --> 01:04:53,626


19271
01:04:53,626 --> 01:04:54,265
>> yeah.

19272
01:04:54,265 --> 01:04:55,626
that's a great question that w

19273
01:04:55,626 --> 01:04:55,626
e

19274
01:04:55,626 --> 01:04:58,370
looked into as well.

19275
01:04:58,370 --> 01:05:00,966
so for context, urban 9, the

19276
01:05:00,966 --> 01:05:02,064
current zoning district allows

19277
01:05:02,064 --> 01:05:02,064


19278
01:05:02,064 --> 01:05:03,042
for health services.

19279
01:05:03,042 --> 01:05:04,130
health services in our land

19280
01:05:04,130 --> 01:05:06,670
development code is defined as

19281
01:05:06,670 --> 01:05:06,670


19282
01:05:06,670 --> 01:05:08,740
establishments primarily engag

19283
01:05:08,740 --> 01:05:08,740
ed

19284
01:05:08,740 --> 01:05:10,516
in furnishing medical, surgical

19285
01:05:10,516 --> 01:05:10,516


19286
01:05:10,516 --> 01:05:12,146
and other health services to

19287
01:05:12,146 --> 01:05:14,644
persons and pets.

19288
01:05:14,644 --> 01:05:15,667
hospitals specifically does no

19289
01:05:15,667 --> 01:05:15,667
t

19290
01:05:15,667 --> 01:05:17,055
have a definition in our

19291
01:05:17,055 --> 01:05:18,920
definition section.

19292
01:05:18,920 --> 01:05:21,130
medical services is the only

19293
01:05:21,130 --> 01:05:23,626
zoning district that allows by

19294
01:05:23,626 --> 01:05:23,626


19295
01:05:23,626 --> 01:05:27,232
right the hospital use.

19296
01:05:27,232 --> 01:05:29,057
we differentiate the two uses

19297
01:05:29,057 --> 01:05:31,342
when it comes down to intensity

19298
01:05:31,342 --> 01:05:31,342


19299
01:05:31,342 --> 01:05:31,342
mostly.

19300
01:05:31,342 --> 01:05:34,906
so we consider like hospitals t

19301
01:05:34,906 --> 01:05:34,906
o

19302
01:05:34,906 --> 01:05:37,004
have a higher intensity in ter

19303
01:05:37,004 --> 01:05:37,004
ms

19304
01:05:37,004 --> 01:05:38,840
of use, size, types of health

19305
01:05:38,840 --> 01:05:40,942
services that they are offering.

19306
01:05:40,942 --> 01:05:40,942


19307
01:05:40,942 --> 01:05:41,816
especially when we start

19308
01:05:41,816 --> 01:05:43,906
considering like number of bed

19309
01:05:43,906 --> 01:05:43,906
s

19310
01:05:43,906 --> 01:05:46,986
and patient/outpatient hours o

19311
01:05:46,986 --> 01:05:46,986
f

19312
01:05:46,986 --> 01:05:46,986
service.

19313
01:05:46,986 --> 01:05:49,622
so we mainly scale it down to

19314
01:05:49,622 --> 01:05:51,480
intensity for what that

19315
01:05:51,480 --> 01:05:52,666
difference is.

19316
01:05:52,666 --> 01:05:53,492
>> okay.

19317
01:05:53,492 --> 01:05:54,468
because I mean one of the

19318
01:05:54,468 --> 01:05:57,400
benefits of u9 is when you hav

19319
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:57,400
e

19320
01:05:57,400 --> 01:05:59,122
that flexibility of uses, you d

19321
01:05:59,122 --> 01:05:59,122
o

19322
01:05:59,122 --> 01:06:01,094
things like you can build a

19323
01:06:01,094 --> 01:06:01,094
hotel.

19324
01:06:01,094 --> 01:06:02,967
if you are in that zoning

19325
01:06:02,967 --> 01:06:05,098
district, hotel ellio, would

19326
01:06:05,098 --> 01:06:06,966
that be considered conforming

19327
01:06:06,966 --> 01:06:13,678
under the new zoning district?

19328
01:06:13,678 --> 01:06:13,678


19329
01:06:13,678 --> 01:06:14,184
>> yes.

19330
01:06:14,184 --> 01:06:15,688
hotel is also permitted in the

19331
01:06:15,688 --> 01:06:15,688


19332
01:06:15,688 --> 01:06:17,075
md zoning district.

19333
01:06:17,075 --> 01:06:19,576
>> then I guess md is more

19334
01:06:19,576 --> 01:06:21,014
flexibility than the title may

19335
01:06:21,014 --> 01:06:21,014


19336
01:06:21,014 --> 01:06:21,014
suggest.

19337
01:06:21,014 --> 01:06:22,664
I'm comfortable with it.

19338
01:06:22,664 --> 01:06:23,520
it makes sense.

19339
01:06:23,520 --> 01:06:25,518
yeah, those are my questions.

19340
01:06:25,518 --> 01:06:26,354
thank you, mr. Mayor.

19341
01:06:26,354 --> 01:06:27,601
>> mayor: thank you.

19342
01:06:27,601 --> 01:06:28,444
madam clerk, there any public

19343
01:06:28,444 --> 01:06:29,927
comment on this?

19344
01:06:29,927 --> 01:06:30,655
>> there is no public comment,

19345
01:06:30,655 --> 01:06:30,655


19346
01:06:30,655 --> 01:06:31,030
mr. Mayor.

19347
01:06:31,030 --> 01:06:31,930
>> mayor: I so he no further

19348
01:06:31,930 --> 01:06:37,433
lights, let's call the roll.

19349
01:06:37,433 --> 01:06:38,102
>> commissioner duncan-walker.

19350
01:06:38,102 --> 01:06:38,102


19351
01:06:38,102 --> 01:06:38,513
>> aye.

19352
01:06:38,513 --> 01:06:39,041
>> commissioner book.

19353
01:06:39,041 --> 01:06:39,348
>> aye.

19354
01:06:39,348 --> 01:06:39,876
>> commissioner willits.

19355
01:06:39,876 --> 01:06:40,266
>> aye.

19356
01:06:40,266 --> 01:06:40,922
>> commissioner eastman.

19357
01:06:40,922 --> 01:06:41,677
>> aye.

19358
01:06:41,677 --> 01:06:42,337
>> commissioner ingle.

19359
01:06:42,337 --> 01:06:42,975
>> aye.

19360
01:06:42,975 --> 01:06:43,498
>> commissioner chestnut.

19361
01:06:43,498 --> 01:06:44,085
>> aye.

19362
01:06:44,085 --> 01:06:44,440
>> mayor ward.

19363
01:06:44,440 --> 01:06:44,952
>> mayor: aye.

19364
01:06:44,952 --> 01:06:46,245
that passes unanimously.

19365
01:06:46,245 --> 01:06:47,577
madam clerk, before we go on, I

19366
01:06:47,577 --> 01:06:47,577


19367
01:06:47,577 --> 01:06:49,177
don't want to let this pass

19368
01:06:49,177 --> 01:06:53,515
without mentions this when you

19369
01:06:53,515 --> 01:06:53,515


19370
01:06:53,515 --> 01:06:55,996
look at the map of the 10 bloc

19371
01:06:55,996 --> 01:06:55,996
ks

19372
01:06:55,996 --> 01:06:57,067
between basically southwest

19373
01:06:57,067 --> 01:06:59,455
23rd street to southwest

19374
01:06:59,455 --> 01:07:01,743
13th street along archer road

19375
01:07:01,743 --> 01:07:05,029
and southwest 16th avenue, it

19376
01:07:05,029 --> 01:07:08,907
repeating that this is

19377
01:07:08,907 --> 01:07:10,092
among the most, ifot the most

19378
01:07:10,092 --> 01:07:12,653
dense employment area.

19379
01:07:12,653 --> 01:07:14,404
it probably in florida, maybe

19380
01:07:14,404 --> 01:07:15,239
throughout the southeast

19381
01:07:15,239 --> 01:07:16,959
consistently because it is

19382
01:07:16,959 --> 01:07:19,775
almost all 24/7 employment.

19383
01:07:19,775 --> 01:07:22,183
and it includes everything fro

19384
01:07:22,183 --> 01:07:22,183
m,

19385
01:07:22,183 --> 01:07:25,117
you know, world-class medical

19386
01:07:25,117 --> 01:07:32,488
college to to the associated

19387
01:07:32,488 --> 01:07:33,555
hospitals with that and all the

19388
01:07:33,555 --> 01:07:33,555


19389
01:07:33,555 --> 01:07:35,296
offices that support u.f. Healt

19390
01:07:35,296 --> 01:07:35,296
h

19391
01:07:35,296 --> 01:07:42,313
throughout and the largest v.a

19392
01:07:42,313 --> 01:07:42,313
.

19393
01:07:42,313 --> 01:07:50,311
hospital headquarters.

19394
01:07:50,311 --> 01:07:52,175
all that is something you don't

19395
01:07:52,175 --> 01:07:52,175


19396
01:07:52,175 --> 01:07:53,313
encounter in most communities.

19397
01:07:53,313 --> 01:07:53,313


19398
01:07:53,313 --> 01:07:54,777
we take it for granted but

19399
01:07:54,777 --> 01:07:56,339
should not take it for granted

19400
01:07:56,339 --> 01:07:56,339
,

19401
01:07:56,339 --> 01:07:58,275
not only for the jobs, the ver

19402
01:07:58,275 --> 01:07:58,275
y

19403
01:07:58,275 --> 01:07:59,363
good jobs that it provides

19404
01:07:59,363 --> 01:08:02,655
throughout that sector, but the

19405
01:08:02,655 --> 01:08:02,655


19406
01:08:02,655 --> 01:08:03,889
opportunity for people to come

19407
01:08:03,889 --> 01:08:03,889


19408
01:08:03,889 --> 01:08:06,299
and be healed in our community

19409
01:08:06,299 --> 01:08:06,299


19410
01:08:06,299 --> 01:08:07,686
in a way that other communities

19411
01:08:07,686 --> 01:08:07,686


19412
01:08:07,686 --> 01:08:09,121
are envious of.

19413
01:08:09,121 --> 01:08:11,098
it's important when we have any

19414
01:08:11,098 --> 01:08:11,098


19415
01:08:11,098 --> 01:08:13,501
opportunity to repeat all that,

19416
01:08:13,501 --> 01:08:13,501


19417
01:08:13,501 --> 01:08:15,367
so that we don't ever forget I

19418
01:08:15,367 --> 01:08:15,367
t.

19419
01:08:15,367 --> 01:08:16,863
it's something we should walk

19420
01:08:16,863 --> 01:08:18,345
out of here feeling pretty dar

19421
01:08:18,345 --> 01:08:18,345
n

19422
01:08:18,345 --> 01:08:19,071
good about.

19423
01:08:19,071 --> 01:08:25,403
madam clerk.

19424
01:08:25,403 --> 01:08:25,403
[inaudible]

19425
01:08:25,403 --> 01:08:27,974
>> mayor: that's the theory.

19426
01:08:27,974 --> 01:08:27,974
[laughter]

19427
01:08:27,974 --> 01:08:30,343
>> mr. Mayor.

19428
01:08:30,343 --> 01:08:31,057
>> mayor: yes, we are very

19429
01:08:31,057 --> 01:08:32,191
grateful for that.  >>

19430
01:08:32,191 --> 01:08:32,914
>> we are very grateful.

19431
01:08:32,914 --> 01:08:34,547
mr. Mayor, we are on to

19432
01:08:34,547 --> 01:08:36,855
ordinance number 2025-993, an

19433
01:08:36,855 --> 01:08:38,097
ordinance of the city of

19434
01:08:38,097 --> 01:08:40,193
gainesville, florida amending

19435
01:08:40,193 --> 01:08:41,981
the zoning map atlas by rezoning

19436
01:08:41,981 --> 01:08:41,981


19437
01:08:41,981 --> 01:08:44,698
approximately 25.55 acres of

19438
01:08:44,698 --> 01:08:45,760
property generally located wes

19439
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:45,760
t

19440
01:08:45,760 --> 01:08:47,353
of southwest 13th street,

19441
01:08:47,353 --> 01:08:48,929
south of southwest archer road,

19442
01:08:48,929 --> 01:08:48,929


19443
01:08:48,929 --> 01:08:51,344
east of southwest 16th street

19444
01:08:51,344 --> 01:08:53,071
and north of southwest 16th

19445
01:08:53,071 --> 01:08:53,968
avenue as more specifically

19446
01:08:53,968 --> 01:08:56,088
described in this ordinance fro

19447
01:08:56,088 --> 01:08:56,088
m

19448
01:08:56,088 --> 01:08:59,875
urban 9 to medical services

19449
01:08:59,875 --> 01:09:02,911
providing directions, providing

19450
01:09:02,911 --> 01:09:02,911


19451
01:09:02,911 --> 01:09:04,912
severability clause, providing

19452
01:09:04,912 --> 01:09:04,912


19453
01:09:04,912 --> 01:09:06,546
repealing clause and providing

19454
01:09:06,546 --> 01:09:06,546


19455
01:09:06,546 --> 01:09:07,455
an effective date.

19456
01:09:07,455 --> 01:09:08,686
>> mayor: welcome back.

19457
01:09:08,686 --> 01:09:09,059
>> thank you.

19458
01:09:09,059 --> 01:09:12,355
good evening again.

19459
01:09:12,355 --> 01:09:16,481
allison pedder, to preface in

19460
01:09:16,481 --> 01:09:17,423
this presentation will be

19461
01:09:17,423 --> 01:09:18,471
identical to the previous item

19462
01:09:18,471 --> 01:09:18,471


19463
01:09:18,471 --> 01:09:20,928
so I'll skip past those and

19464
01:09:20,928 --> 01:09:22,212
briefly summarize them.

19465
01:09:22,212 --> 01:09:23,801
feel free to stop me if you'd

19466
01:09:23,801 --> 01:09:25,769
like me to go more in-depth.

19467
01:09:25,769 --> 01:09:27,197
so for the record, this is the

19468
01:09:27,197 --> 01:09:27,197


19469
01:09:27,197 --> 01:09:28,935
presentation before you now for

19470
01:09:28,935 --> 01:09:28,935


19471
01:09:28,935 --> 01:09:30,581
the zoning map change which is

19472
01:09:30,581 --> 01:09:30,581


19473
01:09:30,581 --> 01:09:32,440
quasi-judicial for petition

19474
01:09:32,440 --> 01:09:37,621
number ld 25-000106 for u.f.

19475
01:09:37,621 --> 01:09:39,163
health south campus.

19476
01:09:39,163 --> 01:09:40,883
for this request, the current

19477
01:09:40,883 --> 01:09:42,641
zoning designation is urban 9

19478
01:09:42,641 --> 01:09:43,618
and the proposed change

19479
01:09:43,618 --> 01:09:44,816
requested is for medical

19480
01:09:44,816 --> 01:09:56,531
services md.

19481
01:09:56,531 --> 01:10:01,138
but nothing has changed in the

19482
01:10:01,138 --> 01:10:01,138
m.

19483
01:10:01,138 --> 01:10:02,575
this petition was reviewed usi

19484
01:10:02,575 --> 01:10:02,575
ng

19485
01:10:02,575 --> 01:10:05,075
the criteria outlined in secti

19486
01:10:05,075 --> 01:10:05,075
on

19487
01:10:05,075 --> 01:10:07,276
30-3.14 of the land development

19488
01:10:07,276 --> 01:10:07,276


19489
01:10:07,276 --> 01:10:09,583
code and the corresponding

19490
01:10:09,583 --> 01:10:10,915
sections of the comprehensive

19491
01:10:10,915 --> 01:10:12,289
plan for the city of

19492
01:10:12,289 --> 01:10:12,289
gainesville.

19493
01:10:12,289 --> 01:10:13,745
the criteria shown on this sli

19494
01:10:13,745 --> 01:10:13,745
de

19495
01:10:13,745 --> 01:10:15,618
are explored in the backup and

19496
01:10:15,618 --> 01:10:15,618


19497
01:10:15,618 --> 01:10:16,147
staff report.

19498
01:10:16,147 --> 01:10:17,359
I have a couple of quick point

19499
01:10:17,359 --> 01:10:17,359
s

19500
01:10:17,359 --> 01:10:19,321
I wanted to expand in more

19501
01:10:19,321 --> 01:10:19,321
detail.

19502
01:10:19,321 --> 01:10:22,191
so this proposal is to change

19503
01:10:22,191 --> 01:10:23,942
from urban 9 which is a transec

19504
01:10:23,942 --> 01:10:23,942
t

19505
01:10:23,942 --> 01:10:25,125
zone to medical services which

19506
01:10:25,125 --> 01:10:25,125


19507
01:10:25,125 --> 01:10:26,671
is one of the special zoning

19508
01:10:26,671 --> 01:10:26,671
districts.

19509
01:10:26,671 --> 01:10:30,265
and then as a quick reminder a

19510
01:10:30,265 --> 01:10:30,265
nd

19511
01:10:30,265 --> 01:10:31,917
recap with the last item being

19512
01:10:31,917 --> 01:10:31,917


19513
01:10:31,917 --> 01:10:33,201
approved for the change in lan

19514
01:10:33,201 --> 01:10:33,201
d

19515
01:10:33,201 --> 01:10:36,069
use to office, our land

19516
01:10:36,069 --> 01:10:37,275
development code and

19517
01:10:37,275 --> 01:10:38,614
comprehensive plan do state tha

19518
01:10:38,614 --> 01:10:38,614
t

19519
01:10:38,614 --> 01:10:39,816
the only future land use

19520
01:10:39,816 --> 01:10:42,205
category that allows for the m

19521
01:10:42,205 --> 01:10:42,205
d

19522
01:10:42,205 --> 01:10:45,929
zoning is office.

19523
01:10:45,929 --> 01:10:47,458
and some other things to keep I

19524
01:10:47,458 --> 01:10:47,458
n

19525
01:10:47,458 --> 01:10:49,321
mind in terms of permitted use

19526
01:10:49,321 --> 01:10:49,321
s,

19527
01:10:49,321 --> 01:10:50,631
the use of hospitals only

19528
01:10:50,631 --> 01:10:52,721
permitted in medical services

19529
01:10:52,721 --> 01:10:52,721
md.

19530
01:10:52,721 --> 01:10:59,697
this is a reminder of the

19531
01:10:59,697 --> 01:11:00,893
compatibility element of this t

19532
01:11:00,893 --> 01:11:00,893
o

19533
01:11:00,893 --> 01:11:02,743
bring it into consistency with

19534
01:11:02,743 --> 01:11:02,743


19535
01:11:02,743 --> 01:11:04,601
the other hospital campuses see

19536
01:11:04,601 --> 01:11:04,601
n

19537
01:11:04,601 --> 01:11:06,174
around the city that also have

19538
01:11:06,174 --> 01:11:06,174


19539
01:11:06,174 --> 01:11:09,098
that md zoning.

19540
01:11:09,098 --> 01:11:10,499
and this is just a quick

19541
01:11:10,499 --> 01:11:11,995
comparison table of the two

19542
01:11:11,995 --> 01:11:13,714
zoning districts.

19543
01:11:13,714 --> 01:11:15,642
so u9 which is a transect zone

19544
01:11:15,642 --> 01:11:15,642


19545
01:11:15,642 --> 01:11:17,174
and medical services which is a

19546
01:11:17,174 --> 01:11:17,174


19547
01:11:17,174 --> 01:11:19,247
special district, a lot of the

19548
01:11:19,247 --> 01:11:19,247
se

19549
01:11:19,247 --> 01:11:21,871
have already been kind of talked  ab

19550
01:11:21,871 --> 01:11:23,199
about but the main ones being

19551
01:11:23,199 --> 01:11:25,416
the permitted uses, the height.

19552
01:11:25,416 --> 01:11:25,416


19553
01:11:25,416 --> 01:11:28,664
just a quick glance over that

19554
01:11:28,664 --> 01:11:29,991
with the special district

19555
01:11:29,991 --> 01:11:32,294
medical services, it's five

19556
01:11:32,294 --> 01:11:34,981
stories by right, 14 with a

19557
01:11:34,981 --> 01:11:38,101
special use permit for those

19558
01:11:38,101 --> 01:11:39,995
larger medical facilities.

19559
01:11:39,995 --> 01:11:40,869
other than that, medical

19560
01:11:40,869 --> 01:11:42,206
services is a special district

19561
01:11:42,206 --> 01:11:42,206


19562
01:11:42,206 --> 01:11:48,313
hathat has its own section.

19563
01:11:48,313 --> 01:11:50,459
and this is just a broader map

19564
01:11:50,459 --> 01:11:50,459


19565
01:11:50,459 --> 01:11:54,551
showing the zoning of the area.

19566
01:11:54,551 --> 01:11:54,551


19567
01:11:54,551 --> 01:11:56,719
and lastly, based on the revie

19568
01:11:56,719 --> 01:11:56,719
w

19569
01:11:56,719 --> 01:11:57,820
of this criteria, staff

19570
01:11:57,820 --> 01:11:59,224
recommends approval of petition

19571
01:11:59,224 --> 01:11:59,224


19572
01:11:59,224 --> 01:12:02,937
ld 25-000106 and the city plan

19573
01:12:02,937 --> 01:12:02,937


19574
01:12:02,937 --> 01:12:05,145
board on december 18th of 2025

19575
01:12:05,145 --> 01:12:05,145


19576
01:12:05,145 --> 01:12:06,718
voted 6-0 to recommend approva

19577
01:12:06,718 --> 01:12:06,718
l

19578
01:12:06,718 --> 01:12:10,962
of the petition as well.

19579
01:12:10,962 --> 01:12:15,044
we are available for questions

19580
01:12:15,044 --> 01:12:15,044


19581
01:12:15,044 --> 01:12:16,669
and mv5 is also here.

19582
01:12:16,669 --> 01:12:17,593
>> mayor: would the applicant

19583
01:12:17,593 --> 01:12:21,249
like to add anything to this?

19584
01:12:21,249 --> 01:12:23,622
>> not other than having my

19585
01:12:23,622 --> 01:12:24,747
presentation from the previous

19586
01:12:24,747 --> 01:12:24,747


19587
01:12:24,747 --> 01:12:26,077
item reflected in the record.

19588
01:12:26,077 --> 01:12:27,579
thank you, mr. Mayor.

19589
01:12:27,579 --> 01:12:29,581
>> mayor: absolutely, yes.

19590
01:12:29,581 --> 01:12:30,316
thank you.

19591
01:12:30,316 --> 01:12:31,379
commissioner ingle.

19592
01:12:31,379 --> 01:12:34,293
>> move staff recommendation o

19593
01:12:34,293 --> 01:12:34,293
f

19594
01:12:34,293 --> 01:12:34,293
2025-993.

19595
01:12:34,293 --> 01:12:36,268
>> second.

19596
01:12:36,268 --> 01:12:37,325
>> mayor: motion and second.

19597
01:12:37,325 --> 01:12:39,187
and commissioner book.

19598
01:12:39,187 --> 01:12:39,793
>> yeah, thank you.

19599
01:12:39,793 --> 01:12:41,294
this is precisely the type of

19600
01:12:41,294 --> 01:12:43,435
presentation that helps us be

19601
01:12:43,435 --> 01:12:44,335
prepared to make something lik

19602
01:12:44,335 --> 01:12:44,335
e

19603
01:12:44,335 --> 01:12:44,335
this.  The

19604
01:12:44,335 --> 01:12:47,503
the nuances of something like a

19605
01:12:47,503 --> 01:12:47,503


19606
01:12:47,503 --> 01:12:49,314
health use versus a hospital an

19607
01:12:49,314 --> 01:12:49,314
d

19608
01:12:49,314 --> 01:12:50,869
the fact that it has different

19609
01:12:50,869 --> 01:12:50,869


19610
01:12:50,869 --> 01:12:52,972
densities in the same area and

19611
01:12:52,972 --> 01:12:52,972


19612
01:12:52,972 --> 01:12:54,720
really doesn't change the

19613
01:12:54,720 --> 01:12:55,811
overall character of the area I

19614
01:12:55,811 --> 01:12:55,811
s

19615
01:12:55,811 --> 01:12:57,684
very helpful for this.

19616
01:12:57,684 --> 01:12:59,653
so this is very, very good

19617
01:12:59,653 --> 01:13:00,783
preparation by staff.

19618
01:13:00,783 --> 01:13:02,185
and this was a really -- I

19619
01:13:02,185 --> 01:13:03,385
didn't even know why this was

19620
01:13:03,385 --> 01:13:04,158
coming before us.

19621
01:13:04,158 --> 01:13:06,454
seemed like I would have thoug

19622
01:13:06,454 --> 01:13:06,454
ht

19623
01:13:06,454 --> 01:13:07,651
that this was a use that could

19624
01:13:07,651 --> 01:13:07,651


19625
01:13:07,651 --> 01:13:09,728
have been done in that area, b

19626
01:13:09,728 --> 01:13:09,728
ut

19627
01:13:09,728 --> 01:13:11,060
for the fact that we have very,

19628
01:13:11,060 --> 01:13:11,060


19629
01:13:11,060 --> 01:13:13,127
very precise land use and zonin

19630
01:13:13,127 --> 01:13:13,127
g

19631
01:13:13,127 --> 01:13:13,127
standards.

19632
01:13:13,127 --> 01:13:19,039
I appreciate staff in this

19633
01:13:19,039 --> 01:13:20,669
particular case and support the

19634
01:13:20,669 --> 01:13:20,669


19635
01:13:20,669 --> 01:13:20,669
motion.

19636
01:13:20,669 --> 01:13:22,435
>> mayor: commissioner willits

19637
01:13:22,435 --> 01:13:22,435
.

19638
01:13:22,435 --> 01:13:24,981
>> thank you, mr. Mayor.  Yo

19639
01:13:24,981 --> 01:13:26,376
you know, it's like -- it feels

19640
01:13:26,376 --> 01:13:26,376


19641
01:13:26,376 --> 01:13:27,572
like a small change but in

19642
01:13:27,572 --> 01:13:28,880
essence it is also saying

19643
01:13:28,880 --> 01:13:30,512
there's less land.

19644
01:13:30,512 --> 01:13:37,216
we have just dezoned a chunk of

19645
01:13:37,216 --> 01:13:37,216


19646
01:13:37,216 --> 01:13:43,903
land that could be --

19647
01:13:43,903 --> 01:13:47,333
[inaudible] if u.f. Said let's

19648
01:13:47,333 --> 01:13:47,333


19649
01:13:47,333 --> 01:13:48,905
build a dorm for nursing

19650
01:13:48,905 --> 01:13:50,772
students and now 20 per acre, w

19651
01:13:50,772 --> 01:13:50,772
e

19652
01:13:50,772 --> 01:13:53,271
do remove some -- the changes

19653
01:13:53,271 --> 01:13:54,617
aren't completely minimal.

19654
01:13:54,617 --> 01:13:56,668
it does change with the future.

19655
01:13:56,668 --> 01:13:56,668


19656
01:13:56,668 --> 01:13:58,285
but I think this is more in line

19657
01:13:58,285 --> 01:13:58,285


19658
01:13:58,285 --> 01:14:00,380
with what u.f. Health is looki

19659
01:14:00,380 --> 01:14:00,380
ng

19660
01:14:00,380 --> 01:14:00,380
at.

19661
01:14:00,380 --> 01:14:02,256
people can't say we never do

19662
01:14:02,256 --> 01:14:03,344
anything for u.f. Health.

19663
01:14:03,344 --> 01:14:05,425
like this is, you know, a help

19664
01:14:05,425 --> 01:14:05,425


19665
01:14:05,425 --> 01:14:06,521
for them to build that.

19666
01:14:06,521 --> 01:14:08,480
and I just want to also give

19667
01:14:08,480 --> 01:14:20,726
thanks to ms. Pager.

19668
01:14:20,726 --> 01:14:22,544
I'm glad you're the person here

19669
01:14:22,544 --> 01:14:22,544


19670
01:14:22,544 --> 01:14:24,332
to do all the research to answe

19671
01:14:24,332 --> 01:14:24,332


19672
01:14:24,332 --> 01:14:25,648
my questions.

19673
01:14:25,648 --> 01:14:26,028
thank you.

19674
01:14:26,028 --> 01:14:27,765
>> happy to help.

19675
01:14:27,765 --> 01:14:28,316
>> mayor: thank you,

19676
01:14:28,316 --> 01:14:28,970
commissioner willits.

19677
01:14:28,970 --> 01:14:30,319
commissioner eastman.

19678
01:14:30,319 --> 01:14:31,176
>> thank you.

19679
01:14:31,176 --> 01:14:33,572
since I got on my soapbox last

19680
01:14:33,572 --> 01:14:33,572


19681
01:14:33,572 --> 01:14:35,451
time about pds when making the

19682
01:14:35,451 --> 01:14:35,451


19683
01:14:35,451 --> 01:14:37,550
change, another thing that is on

19684
01:14:37,550 --> 01:14:37,550


19685
01:14:37,550 --> 01:14:39,154
that staff looking at that

19686
01:14:39,154 --> 01:14:40,128
spreadsheet of all the work th

19687
01:14:40,128 --> 01:14:40,128
at

19688
01:14:40,128 --> 01:14:41,880
you guys are doing is to look a

19689
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:41,880
t

19690
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:43,320
our allowed use tables.

19691
01:14:43,320 --> 01:14:45,386
I have not asked this directly

19692
01:14:45,386 --> 01:14:45,386


19693
01:14:45,386 --> 01:14:46,688
but I'm guessing the differenc

19694
01:14:46,688 --> 01:14:46,688
e

19695
01:14:46,688 --> 01:14:47,588
between medical services and

19696
01:14:47,588 --> 01:14:48,801
hospitals is the main purpose o

19697
01:14:48,801 --> 01:14:48,801
f

19698
01:14:48,801 --> 01:14:51,935
this changeover.  And

19699
01:14:51,935 --> 01:14:53,727
and well, regardless, I think it

19700
01:14:53,727 --> 01:14:53,727


19701
01:14:53,727 --> 01:14:55,806
is important that we have that,

19702
01:14:55,806 --> 01:14:55,806


19703
01:14:55,806 --> 01:14:57,226
you know, if there are

19704
01:14:57,226 --> 01:14:58,534
allowances that make sense

19705
01:14:58,534 --> 01:14:59,639
within certain zoning districts

19706
01:14:59,639 --> 01:14:59,639


19707
01:14:59,639 --> 01:15:01,040
that we simply make those

19708
01:15:01,040 --> 01:15:07,520
updates, we might not have tak

19709
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:07,520
en

19710
01:15:07,520 --> 01:15:09,574
a different look since we made

19711
01:15:09,574 --> 01:15:09,574


19712
01:15:09,574 --> 01:15:09,574
transects.

19713
01:15:09,574 --> 01:15:11,467
now we have lots of time and

19714
01:15:11,467 --> 01:15:12,786
experience under our belt as t

19715
01:15:12,786 --> 01:15:12,786
o

19716
01:15:12,786 --> 01:15:14,314
what makes sense where and wha

19717
01:15:14,314 --> 01:15:14,314
t

19718
01:15:14,314 --> 01:15:16,291
applicants are coming and askin

19719
01:15:16,291 --> 01:15:16,291
g

19720
01:15:16,291 --> 01:15:16,722
us for.

19721
01:15:16,722 --> 01:15:18,024
I'm looking forward to getting

19722
01:15:18,024 --> 01:15:18,024


19723
01:15:18,024 --> 01:15:19,850
that back whenever the plan

19724
01:15:19,850 --> 01:15:21,549
board gets done with that.

19725
01:15:21,549 --> 01:15:24,094
I think it's well overdue to

19726
01:15:24,094 --> 01:15:26,495
take a second set of eyes.

19727
01:15:26,495 --> 01:15:27,239
>> mayor: thank you,

19728
01:15:27,239 --> 01:15:28,098
commissioner eastman.

19729
01:15:28,098 --> 01:15:29,905
is there any public comment,

19730
01:15:29,905 --> 01:15:31,182
madam clerk?

19731
01:15:31,182 --> 01:15:32,086
>> no public comment.

19732
01:15:32,086 --> 01:15:32,708
>> mayor: let's call the roll.

19733
01:15:32,708 --> 01:15:32,708


19734
01:15:32,708 --> 01:15:33,245
>> commissioner book.

19735
01:15:33,245 --> 01:15:33,944
>> aye.

19736
01:15:33,944 --> 01:15:34,440
>> commissioner willits.

19737
01:15:34,440 --> 01:15:34,979
>> aye.

19738
01:15:34,979 --> 01:15:35,578
>> commissioner eastman.

19739
01:15:35,578 --> 01:15:36,214
>> aye.

19740
01:15:36,214 --> 01:15:36,801
>> commissioner ingle.

19741
01:15:36,801 --> 01:15:37,175
>> aye.

19742
01:15:37,175 --> 01:15:37,720
>> commissioner chestnut.

19743
01:15:37,720 --> 01:15:38,376
>> aye.

19744
01:15:38,376 --> 01:15:38,922
>> commissioner duncan-walker.

19745
01:15:38,922 --> 01:15:38,922


19746
01:15:38,922 --> 01:15:40,384
>> aye.

19747
01:15:40,384 --> 01:15:40,785
>> mayor ward.

19748
01:15:40,785 --> 01:15:41,960
>> mayor: aye.  That

19749
01:15:41,960 --> 01:15:42,308
that passes unanimously.

19750
01:15:42,308 --> 01:15:42,751
madam clerk.

19751
01:15:42,751 --> 01:15:44,792
>> mr. Mayor, we are on to

19752
01:15:44,792 --> 01:15:49,768
ordinance number 2025-994, an

19753
01:15:49,768 --> 01:15:50,778
ordinance of the city of

19754
01:15:50,778 --> 01:15:51,266
gainesville, florida amending

19755
01:15:51,266 --> 01:15:53,488
the future land use map of the

19756
01:15:53,488 --> 01:15:53,488


19757
01:15:53,488 --> 01:15:54,356
comprehensive plan by changing

19758
01:15:54,356 --> 01:15:54,356


19759
01:15:54,356 --> 01:15:56,164
the land use category of

19760
01:15:56,164 --> 01:15:58,472
approximately 1.38 acres of

19761
01:15:58,472 --> 01:15:59,844
property generally located at

19762
01:15:59,844 --> 01:16:01,980
the 1200 block of northeast

19763
01:16:01,980 --> 01:16:04,069
8th avenue as more

19764
01:16:04,069 --> 01:16:05,034
specifically described in this

19765
01:16:05,034 --> 01:16:05,034


19766
01:16:05,034 --> 01:16:07,534
ordinance from mixed use

19767
01:16:07,534 --> 01:16:09,442
office/residential to urban

19768
01:16:09,442 --> 01:16:09,882
mixed use.

19769
01:16:09,882 --> 01:16:11,280
providing directions to the cit

19770
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:11,280
y

19771
01:16:11,280 --> 01:16:12,314
manager, providing a

19772
01:16:12,314 --> 01:16:13,710
severability clause, providing

19773
01:16:13,710 --> 01:16:13,942
a

19774
01:16:13,942 --> 01:16:15,477
repealing clause and providing

19775
01:16:15,477 --> 01:16:15,477


19776
01:16:15,477 --> 01:16:16,848
an effective date.

19777
01:16:16,848 --> 01:16:19,516
>> mayor: very good.

19778
01:16:19,516 --> 01:16:20,250
commissioner chestnut.

19779
01:16:20,250 --> 01:16:22,896
>> thank you.

19780
01:16:22,896 --> 01:16:23,774
thank you, mr. Mayor.

19781
01:16:23,774 --> 01:16:26,856
I will be abstaining on this

19782
01:16:26,856 --> 01:16:29,124
vote on ordinance number

19783
01:16:29,124 --> 01:16:32,626
2025-994 as well as ordinance

19784
01:16:32,626 --> 01:16:34,974
number 2025-995.

19785
01:16:34,974 --> 01:16:37,190
I have a conflict of interest,

19786
01:16:37,190 --> 01:16:37,190


19787
01:16:37,190 --> 01:16:38,572
both forms have been filed wit

19788
01:16:38,572 --> 01:16:38,572
h

19789
01:16:38,572 --> 01:16:40,172
the clerk's office.

19790
01:16:40,172 --> 01:16:40,822
>> mayor: very good.

19791
01:16:40,822 --> 01:16:41,182
thank you, commissioner

19792
01:16:41,182 --> 01:16:41,182
chestnut.

19793
01:16:41,182 --> 01:16:43,540
mr. Chen.

19794
01:16:43,540 --> 01:16:43,946
>> thank you.

19795
01:16:43,946 --> 01:16:44,670
good evening, mayor and

19796
01:16:44,670 --> 01:16:44,670
commissioners.

19797
01:16:44,670 --> 01:16:53,452
nathan iel chen.

19798
01:16:53,452 --> 01:16:54,858
this is the chestnut northeast

19799
01:16:54,858 --> 01:16:54,858


19800
01:16:54,858 --> 01:16:59,788
8th avenue land use change.

19801
01:16:59,788 --> 01:17:02,655
so this is the 1200 block of

19802
01:17:02,655 --> 01:17:04,594
northeast 8th avenue with

19803
01:17:04,594 --> 01:17:06,800
those four parcels listed.

19804
01:17:06,800 --> 01:17:08,867
the existing land use and zonin

19805
01:17:08,867 --> 01:17:08,867
g

19806
01:17:08,867 --> 01:17:10,434
district allow for mixed use

19807
01:17:10,434 --> 01:17:10,434
development.

19808
01:17:10,434 --> 01:17:13,610
so it is currently mixed use

19809
01:17:13,610 --> 01:17:16,238
office residential or mor and

19810
01:17:16,238 --> 01:17:19,617
currently urban 4 or u4 zoning.

19811
01:17:19,617 --> 01:17:19,617


19812
01:17:19,617 --> 01:17:20,716
as I said, it allows

19813
01:17:20,716 --> 01:17:26,712
it is bounded on four sides by

19814
01:17:26,712 --> 01:17:26,712


19815
01:17:26,712 --> 01:17:30,014
streets, so northeast 8th avenu

19816
01:17:30,014 --> 01:17:30,014
e

19817
01:17:30,014 --> 01:17:31,187
to the north.

19818
01:17:31,187 --> 01:17:35,387
northeast 12th street, northea

19819
01:17:35,387 --> 01:17:35,387
st

19820
01:17:35,387 --> 01:17:37,098
place to the south, and

19821
01:17:37,098 --> 01:17:38,290
northeast to the east.

19822
01:17:38,290 --> 01:17:42,852
as I said, it's the 1200 block

19823
01:17:42,852 --> 01:17:42,852


19824
01:17:42,852 --> 01:17:44,488
of northeast 8th avenue.

19825
01:17:44,488 --> 01:17:46,794
approximately 1.38 acres, and

19826
01:17:46,794 --> 01:17:49,236
the proposed land use and zonin

19827
01:17:49,236 --> 01:17:49,236
g

19828
01:17:49,236 --> 01:17:53,854
is mixed use and urban 6.

19829
01:17:53,854 --> 01:17:55,790
the site is currently vacant.

19830
01:17:55,790 --> 01:17:58,318
here's the subject property on

19831
01:17:58,318 --> 01:17:58,318


19832
01:17:58,318 --> 01:17:59,114
northeast 8th avenue.

19833
01:17:59,114 --> 01:18:03,351
as I said, charles chestnut iii

19834
01:18:03,351 --> 01:18:03,351


19835
01:18:03,351 --> 01:18:03,351
avenue.

19836
01:18:03,351 --> 01:18:04,967
the subject property is in

19837
01:18:04,967 --> 01:18:06,624
orange, and the surrounding

19838
01:18:06,624 --> 01:18:08,254
developments are called out in

19839
01:18:08,254 --> 01:18:08,254


19840
01:18:08,254 --> 01:18:08,254
blue.

19841
01:18:08,254 --> 01:18:11,083
mainly of course the 8th and

19842
01:18:11,083 --> 01:18:15,702
waldo road, located within

19843
01:18:15,702 --> 01:18:17,667
walking distance of the subject

19844
01:18:17,667 --> 01:18:17,667


19845
01:18:17,667 --> 01:18:17,667
property.

19846
01:18:17,667 --> 01:18:20,531
and that of course proposes

19847
01:18:20,531 --> 01:18:22,107
reutilization of the site,

19848
01:18:22,107 --> 01:18:24,885
including improved facilities

19849
01:18:24,885 --> 01:18:27,437
and other improvements, and also

19850
01:18:27,437 --> 01:18:27,437


19851
01:18:27,437 --> 01:18:29,609
note I wanted to point out tha

19852
01:18:29,609 --> 01:18:29,609
t

19853
01:18:29,609 --> 01:18:32,116
the city-approved rezoning

19854
01:18:32,116 --> 01:18:35,149
petitions of this office complex

19855
01:18:35,149 --> 01:18:35,149


19856
01:18:35,149 --> 01:18:37,487
on the southwest corner of wal

19857
01:18:37,487 --> 01:18:37,487
do

19858
01:18:37,487 --> 01:18:39,518
and northeast 8th avenue.

19859
01:18:39,518 --> 01:18:42,577
that was removing old pud and

19860
01:18:42,577 --> 01:18:44,285
going to mixed use, which is

19861
01:18:44,285 --> 01:18:45,469
proposed on this site as well.

19862
01:18:45,469 --> 01:18:45,469


19863
01:18:45,469 --> 01:18:56,295
mixed use office residential f

19864
01:18:56,295 --> 01:18:56,295
or

19865
01:18:56,295 --> 01:18:58,037
the blue and outlined in orang

19866
01:18:58,037 --> 01:18:58,037
e.

19867
01:18:58,037 --> 01:19:00,117
the mixed use exists o to the

19868
01:19:00,117 --> 01:19:00,680
east of the site.

19869
01:19:00,680 --> 01:19:02,571
to the north is of course

19870
01:19:02,571 --> 01:19:05,005
citizen's field, and the army

19871
01:19:05,005 --> 01:19:06,687
reserve parcel that has public

19872
01:19:06,687 --> 01:19:06,687


19873
01:19:06,687 --> 01:19:09,319
facilities, pf future land use

19874
01:19:09,319 --> 01:19:09,319
,

19875
01:19:09,319 --> 01:19:13,353
and to the west is more mixed

19876
01:19:13,353 --> 01:19:16,762
use residential use.

19877
01:19:16,762 --> 01:19:19,925
and the proposed future use is

19878
01:19:19,925 --> 01:19:19,925


19879
01:19:19,925 --> 01:19:21,236
urban mixed use.

19880
01:19:21,236 --> 01:19:23,198
just comparing a little bit

19881
01:19:23,198 --> 01:19:26,167
between the descriptions in the

19882
01:19:26,167 --> 01:19:26,167


19883
01:19:26,167 --> 01:19:27,805
comprehensive plan for urban

19884
01:19:27,805 --> 01:19:30,573
mixed use and the mixed use

19885
01:19:30,573 --> 01:19:32,897
office residential category.

19886
01:19:32,897 --> 01:19:36,675
here is the mixed use office

19887
01:19:36,675 --> 01:19:38,279
residential description.

19888
01:19:38,279 --> 01:19:55,560
allowing for more development.

19889
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:55,560


19890
01:19:55,560 --> 01:20:00,580
you'll see in the re-zoning

19891
01:20:00,580 --> 01:20:02,440
petition, the u6 zoning allows

19892
01:20:02,440 --> 01:20:02,440


19893
01:20:02,440 --> 01:20:05,080
up to 50 units per acre, which

19894
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:05,080


19895
01:20:05,080 --> 01:20:07,109
is requested for the rezoning.

19896
01:20:07,109 --> 01:20:07,109


19897
01:20:07,109 --> 01:20:09,073
for height, mixed use is limit

19898
01:20:09,073 --> 01:20:09,073
ed

19899
01:20:09,073 --> 01:20:11,949
to three stories max yum, and

19900
01:20:11,949 --> 01:20:13,784
urban mixed use allows four

19901
01:20:13,784 --> 01:20:16,179
stories by rate, and five if

19902
01:20:16,179 --> 01:20:18,528
granted with a high bonus for

19903
01:20:18,528 --> 01:20:20,057
affordable housing or other

19904
01:20:20,057 --> 01:20:20,057
bonuses.

19905
01:20:20,057 --> 01:20:22,123
here's the description for urb

19906
01:20:22,123 --> 01:20:22,123
an

19907
01:20:22,123 --> 01:20:22,845
mixed use.

19908
01:20:22,845 --> 01:20:24,899
as I said, up to 60 units per

19909
01:20:24,899 --> 01:20:24,899
acre.

19910
01:20:24,899 --> 01:20:28,585
allows for residential office

19911
01:20:28,585 --> 01:20:30,311
retail, essentially more

19912
01:20:30,311 --> 01:20:32,267
commercial uses at the site wit

19913
01:20:32,267 --> 01:20:32,267
h

19914
01:20:32,267 --> 01:20:45,917
urban mixed use.

19915
01:20:45,917 --> 01:20:54,821
mor compatibility buffers or

19916
01:20:54,821 --> 01:20:57,987
land-use buffers, that identify

19917
01:20:57,987 --> 01:20:57,987


19918
01:20:57,987 --> 01:21:00,187
minimum requirements for the

19919
01:21:00,187 --> 01:21:01,400
separation of land uses, so the

19920
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:01,400


19921
01:21:01,400 --> 01:21:04,702
table is read with the a-- or

19922
01:21:04,702 --> 01:21:05,971
the subject property on the lef

19923
01:21:05,971 --> 01:21:05,971
t

19924
01:21:05,971 --> 01:21:07,603
x then the abutting property o

19925
01:21:07,603 --> 01:21:07,603
n

19926
01:21:07,603 --> 01:21:10,140
the top, so, you'll see that

19927
01:21:10,140 --> 01:21:12,974
with the subject property, if I

19928
01:21:12,974 --> 01:21:12,974
t

19929
01:21:12,974 --> 01:21:14,618
were to be changed to urban

19930
01:21:14,618 --> 01:21:17,583
mixed use and the abutting

19931
01:21:17,583 --> 01:21:19,749
property having mixed-use

19932
01:21:19,749 --> 01:21:22,920
residential, a type-a buffer

19933
01:21:22,920 --> 01:21:24,055
would be applied to the

19934
01:21:24,055 --> 01:21:25,323
remaining portion.

19935
01:21:25,323 --> 01:21:27,629
currently, of course, no come

19936
01:21:27,629 --> 01:21:29,053
bability buffers are required

19937
01:21:29,053 --> 01:21:31,230
because the whole block is mix

19938
01:21:31,230 --> 01:21:31,230
ed

19939
01:21:31,230 --> 01:21:34,135
use residential, but with this

19940
01:21:34,135 --> 01:21:34,135


19941
01:21:34,135 --> 01:21:35,838
change a type a buffer would b

19942
01:21:35,838 --> 01:21:35,838
e

19943
01:21:35,838 --> 01:21:37,366
applied, and I'm showing some o

19944
01:21:37,366 --> 01:21:37,366
f

19945
01:21:37,366 --> 01:21:39,339
the detailed language for what

19946
01:21:39,339 --> 01:21:39,339


19947
01:21:39,339 --> 01:21:41,746
the buffer would entail, which

19948
01:21:41,746 --> 01:21:41,746


19949
01:21:41,746 --> 01:21:43,529
includes landscaping, shade

19950
01:21:43,529 --> 01:21:44,602
trees and an additional

19951
01:21:44,602 --> 01:21:50,286
distance, if you will.

19952
01:21:50,286 --> 01:21:52,295
staff reviewed and pound it

19953
01:21:52,295 --> 01:21:56,753
meets the criteria for future

19954
01:21:56,753 --> 01:21:59,585
land use change outlined in the

19955
01:21:59,585 --> 01:21:59,585


19956
01:21:59,585 --> 01:22:05,499
comprehensive plan, and of the

19957
01:22:05,499 --> 01:22:05,499


19958
01:22:05,499 --> 01:22:06,487
land development code.

19959
01:22:06,487 --> 01:22:08,761
it allows a mix of uses and

19960
01:22:08,761 --> 01:22:10,097
supports infill and

19961
01:22:10,097 --> 01:22:11,214
redevelopment of the vacant

19962
01:22:11,214 --> 01:22:11,214
site.

19963
01:22:11,214 --> 01:22:13,968
it is a site that's well

19964
01:22:13,968 --> 01:22:15,668
connected to existing facilitie

19965
01:22:15,668 --> 01:22:15,668
s

19966
01:22:15,668 --> 01:22:17,107
and services, including

19967
01:22:17,107 --> 01:22:18,662
sidewalks on both sides o

19968
01:22:18,662 --> 01:22:26,475
northeast 8th avenue, and land uses --

19969
01:22:26,475 --> 01:22:26,475


19970
01:22:26,475 --> 01:22:26,956
mixed use and mixed use office

19971
01:22:26,956 --> 01:22:26,956


19972
01:22:26,956 --> 01:22:26,956
residential.

19973
01:22:26,956 --> 01:22:28,821
[indistinct] there are no

19974
01:22:28,821 --> 01:22:30,577
significant environmental

19975
01:22:30,577 --> 01:22:32,986
resources or wetlands on the

19976
01:22:32,986 --> 01:22:34,290
property as well.

19977
01:22:34,290 --> 01:22:36,260
more details on the petition

19978
01:22:36,260 --> 01:22:38,204
meeting review criteria found I

19979
01:22:38,204 --> 01:22:38,204
n

19980
01:22:38,204 --> 01:22:39,963
the staff report.

19981
01:22:39,963 --> 01:22:42,833
staff recommends based on the

19982
01:22:42,833 --> 01:22:44,264
analysis that we recommend

19983
01:22:44,264 --> 01:22:46,435
approval of the petition

19984
01:22:46,435 --> 01:22:53,497
ld25-000124, the chestnut ne 8t

19985
01:22:53,497 --> 01:22:55,078
h land use change, and at

19986
01:22:55,078 --> 01:22:56,282
the city plan board meeting, t

19987
01:22:56,282 --> 01:22:56,282
he

19988
01:22:56,282 --> 01:22:57,913
plan board recommended approval

19989
01:22:57,913 --> 01:22:57,913


19990
01:22:57,913 --> 01:23:00,245
of the petition.

19991
01:23:00,245 --> 01:23:02,522
the applicant is here and has a

19992
01:23:02,522 --> 01:23:02,522


19993
01:23:02,522 --> 01:23:03,859
presentation if you'd like, but

19994
01:23:03,859 --> 01:23:03,859


19995
01:23:03,859 --> 01:23:04,818
I'm here to answer any

19996
01:23:04,818 --> 01:23:04,818
questions.

19997
01:23:04,818 --> 01:23:08,991
>> mayor: very good, thank

19998
01:23:08,991 --> 01:23:08,991
you.

19999
01:23:08,991 --> 01:23:11,593
would the applicant want to giv

20000
01:23:11,593 --> 01:23:11,593
e

20001
01:23:11,593 --> 01:23:12,267
us a presentation?

20002
01:23:12,267 --> 01:23:19,127
>> good evening, mr. Mayor, and

20003
01:23:19,127 --> 01:23:19,127


20004
01:23:19,127 --> 01:23:19,127
commissioners.

20005
01:23:19,127 --> 01:23:24,941
I'm clay swayinger representin

20006
01:23:24,941 --> 01:23:24,941
g

20007
01:23:24,941 --> 01:23:25,724
the property tonight.

20008
01:23:25,724 --> 01:23:29,139
I'd like to make com comments a

20009
01:23:29,139 --> 01:23:29,139
bout

20010
01:23:29,139 --> 01:23:30,747
the land use and zoning, and

20011
01:23:30,747 --> 01:23:32,286
answer questions you may have.

20012
01:23:32,286 --> 01:23:32,286


20013
01:23:32,286 --> 01:23:35,161
this is obviously an area of a

20014
01:23:35,161 --> 01:23:35,161


20015
01:23:35,161 --> 01:23:35,551
lot of interest.

20016
01:23:35,551 --> 01:23:38,433
I was with you in the other room

20017
01:23:38,433 --> 01:23:38,433


20018
01:23:38,433 --> 01:23:39,323
this afternoon, but it's an

20019
01:23:39,323 --> 01:23:41,256
exciting area, and it's an are

20020
01:23:41,256 --> 01:23:41,256
a

20021
01:23:41,256 --> 01:23:43,432
where revitalization and

20022
01:23:43,432 --> 01:23:46,161
investment is a city priority.

20023
01:23:46,161 --> 01:23:46,161


20024
01:23:46,161 --> 01:23:48,125
see the chestnut family's owned

20025
01:23:48,125 --> 01:23:48,125


20026
01:23:48,125 --> 01:23:49,333
this property for quite some

20027
01:23:49,333 --> 01:23:52,836
time, and we have been engaged

20028
01:23:52,836 --> 01:23:52,836


20029
01:23:52,836 --> 01:23:54,599
to bring to the city a land-use

20030
01:23:54,599 --> 01:23:58,979
map change from mor to umu, and

20031
01:23:58,979 --> 01:23:58,979


20032
01:23:58,979 --> 01:24:01,382
the change from zoning from u4

20033
01:24:01,382 --> 01:24:01,382


20034
01:24:01,382 --> 01:24:02,149
to u6.

20035
01:24:02,149 --> 01:24:05,156
it's sort of a step up on the

20036
01:24:05,156 --> 01:24:05,156
ladder.

20037
01:24:05,156 --> 01:24:07,811
this is very consistent with t

20038
01:24:07,811 --> 01:24:07,811
he

20039
01:24:07,811 --> 01:24:09,861
approval by the commission for

20040
01:24:09,861 --> 01:24:09,861


20041
01:24:09,861 --> 01:24:11,889
the, what's commonly known as

20042
01:24:11,889 --> 01:24:15,829
the former jones edmonds

20043
01:24:15,829 --> 01:24:15,829
property.

20044
01:24:15,829 --> 01:24:18,087
I'm not sure if the guys in the

20045
01:24:18,087 --> 01:24:18,087


20046
01:24:18,087 --> 01:24:19,365
back could put this overhead o

20047
01:24:19,365 --> 01:24:19,365
n.

20048
01:24:19,365 --> 01:24:22,163
I think this helps describe the

20049
01:24:22,163 --> 01:24:22,163


20050
01:24:22,163 --> 01:24:22,811
area a little bit better.

20051
01:24:22,811 --> 01:24:30,137
it's about 1.4 acres in size

20052
01:24:30,137 --> 01:24:32,987
outlined in red, so in this are

20053
01:24:32,987 --> 01:24:32,987
a

20054
01:24:32,987 --> 01:24:35,948
you have jones edmonds property,

20055
01:24:35,948 --> 01:24:35,948


20056
01:24:35,948 --> 01:24:39,083
changed to umu and u6.

20057
01:24:39,083 --> 01:24:40,717
you have city properties to the

20058
01:24:40,717 --> 01:24:40,717


20059
01:24:40,717 --> 01:24:40,717
north.

20060
01:24:40,717 --> 01:24:45,119
the armory, east end eatery, t

20061
01:24:45,119 --> 01:24:45,119
he

20062
01:24:45,119 --> 01:24:49,033
firefighter union, baptist

20063
01:24:49,033 --> 01:24:52,026
church west, and a mix of

20064
01:24:52,026 --> 01:24:53,361
residential use to the south.

20065
01:24:53,361 --> 01:24:55,058
you have a lot of different

20066
01:24:55,058 --> 01:24:56,536
mixed uses.

20067
01:24:56,536 --> 01:24:59,000
the properties to the north mul

20068
01:24:59,000 --> 01:24:59,000
,

20069
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:00,963
that's one of the older

20070
01:25:00,963 --> 01:25:02,639
designations and the zoning tha

20071
01:25:02,639 --> 01:25:02,639
t

20072
01:25:02,639 --> 01:25:06,673
is mu1, and so obviously back I

20073
01:25:06,673 --> 01:25:06,673
n

20074
01:25:06,673 --> 01:25:08,848
2017 the city approved the

20075
01:25:08,848 --> 01:25:11,049
zonings for properties around

20076
01:25:11,049 --> 01:25:11,049
town.

20077
01:25:11,049 --> 01:25:17,423
u4 was placed on the property

20078
01:25:17,423 --> 01:25:19,633
with the land use designation.

20079
01:25:19,633 --> 01:25:19,633


20080
01:25:19,633 --> 01:25:23,193
this used to be an mu1 property

20081
01:25:23,193 --> 01:25:23,193


20082
01:25:23,193 --> 01:25:26,698
and mul property.

20083
01:25:26,698 --> 01:25:35,474
some of the older ant ain't ant

20084
01:25:35,474 --> 01:25:35,474
iquated

20085
01:25:35,474 --> 01:25:35,474
designations.

20086
01:25:35,474 --> 01:25:37,858
the owner held back on that

20087
01:25:37,858 --> 01:25:37,858
idea.

20088
01:25:37,858 --> 01:25:39,810
that was a permitted use for

20089
01:25:39,810 --> 01:25:41,343
decades on this property.

20090
01:25:41,343 --> 01:25:44,521
the u4 and mor does not allow

20091
01:25:44,521 --> 01:25:45,541
that permitted use.

20092
01:25:45,541 --> 01:25:46,846
that's something that the

20093
01:25:46,846 --> 01:25:48,349
property owner is considering,

20094
01:25:48,349 --> 01:25:48,349


20095
01:25:48,349 --> 01:25:50,416
just wanted to mention sort of

20096
01:25:50,416 --> 01:25:50,649
a

20097
01:25:50,649 --> 01:25:51,726
little history and why we're  here.

20098
01:25:51,726 --> 01:25:51,726
here.

20099
01:25:51,726 --> 01:25:53,532
there's a reason why someone's

20100
01:25:53,532 --> 01:25:53,532


20101
01:25:53,532 --> 01:25:54,062
here before you.

20102
01:25:54,062 --> 01:26:08,282
all this area has been chartered

20103
01:26:08,282 --> 01:26:08,282


20104
01:26:08,282 --> 01:26:10,018
out for a mix of uses for highe

20105
01:26:10,018 --> 01:26:10,018
r

20106
01:26:10,018 --> 01:26:12,124
density, so we feel like this

20107
01:26:12,124 --> 01:26:13,134
increase and change would be

20108
01:26:13,134 --> 01:26:14,810
appropriate with the land use

20109
01:26:14,810 --> 01:26:18,110
map that you have on the books

20110
01:26:18,110 --> 01:26:18,110
,

20111
01:26:18,110 --> 01:26:20,090
along with its location along

20112
01:26:20,090 --> 01:26:22,167
collector city treat.

20113
01:26:22,167 --> 01:26:25,457
so I feel it's very compatible

20114
01:26:25,457 --> 01:26:25,457


20115
01:26:25,457 --> 01:26:27,421
with that pattern.

20116
01:26:27,421 --> 01:26:28,864
as far as building height, lan

20117
01:26:28,864 --> 01:26:28,864
d

20118
01:26:28,864 --> 01:26:30,298
use and zoning would allow

20119
01:26:30,298 --> 01:26:32,262
three-story buildings.

20120
01:26:32,262 --> 01:26:35,930
this would allow four-story

20121
01:26:35,930 --> 01:26:36,906
buildings by right.

20122
01:26:36,906 --> 01:26:38,699
we did hold a neighborhood

20123
01:26:38,699 --> 01:26:39,713
workshop in the fall.

20124
01:26:39,713 --> 01:26:41,434
we had one community attendee,

20125
01:26:41,434 --> 01:26:43,971
and they did not have any

20126
01:26:43,971 --> 01:26:46,137
objection to the application.

20127
01:26:46,137 --> 01:26:48,680
we sent out notification to the

20128
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:48,680


20129
01:26:48,680 --> 01:26:50,514
nearby property owners and the

20130
01:26:50,514 --> 01:26:50,514


20131
01:26:50,514 --> 01:26:52,918
notification radius, along wit

20132
01:26:52,918 --> 01:26:52,918
h

20133
01:26:52,918 --> 01:26:54,147
registered neighborhood

20134
01:26:54,147 --> 01:26:54,147
associations.

20135
01:26:54,147 --> 01:27:00,731
you're plan back in december

20136
01:27:00,731 --> 01:27:02,082
recommended approval unanimously

20137
01:27:02,082 --> 01:27:02,082


20138
01:27:02,082 --> 01:27:04,586
of the change, and your staff I

20139
01:27:04,586 --> 01:27:04,586
s

20140
01:27:04,586 --> 01:27:05,982
recommending approval.

20141
01:27:05,982 --> 01:27:06,631
I preernght that.

20142
01:27:06,631 --> 01:27:08,605
I -- I appreciate that.

20143
01:27:08,605 --> 01:27:10,276
we've got something put together

20144
01:27:10,276 --> 01:27:10,276


20145
01:27:10,276 --> 01:27:12,220
that will benefit the community,

20146
01:27:12,220 --> 01:27:12,220


20147
01:27:12,220 --> 01:27:13,234
benefit the property, and

20148
01:27:13,234 --> 01:27:14,452
hopefully bring something

20149
01:27:14,452 --> 01:27:15,704
positive to area and continue t

20150
01:27:15,704 --> 01:27:15,704
o

20151
01:27:15,704 --> 01:27:17,042
build on that momentum.

20152
01:27:17,042 --> 01:27:20,944
so, I think with that, I'll

20153
01:27:20,944 --> 01:27:22,277
conclude and answer any

20154
01:27:22,277 --> 01:27:23,476
questions y'all have tonight.

20155
01:27:23,476 --> 01:27:24,378
>> mayor: thank you.

20156
01:27:24,378 --> 01:27:25,546
all right!

20157
01:27:25,546 --> 01:27:27,425
any questions?

20158
01:27:27,425 --> 01:27:29,087
any comments?

20159
01:27:29,087 --> 01:27:32,008
is there any public comment?

20160
01:27:32,008 --> 01:27:33,856
>> yes, mr. Mayor.

20161
01:27:33,856 --> 01:27:36,603
first, we have petria davis.

20162
01:27:36,603 --> 01:27:36,603


20163
01:27:36,603 --> 01:27:39,460
>> mayor: welcome.

20164
01:27:39,460 --> 01:27:50,380
>> good afternoon, mayor, and

20165
01:27:50,380 --> 01:27:50,380
commissioners.

20166
01:27:50,380 --> 01:27:53,050
I live 30 feet from the parcel

20167
01:27:53,050 --> 01:27:53,050


20168
01:27:53,050 --> 01:27:54,969
being considered for the futur

20169
01:27:54,969 --> 01:27:54,969
e

20170
01:27:54,969 --> 01:27:57,917
land use changed from 4 unit p

20171
01:27:57,917 --> 01:27:57,917
er

20172
01:27:57,917 --> 01:28:00,012
acre to 6 unit per acre.

20173
01:28:00,012 --> 01:28:02,428
I am here today to respectfull

20174
01:28:02,428 --> 01:28:02,428
y

20175
01:28:02,428 --> 01:28:03,717
oppose this change.

20176
01:28:03,717 --> 01:28:11,061
increasing the k density open t

20177
01:28:11,061 --> 01:28:11,061
he

20178
01:28:11,061 --> 01:28:12,926
development far more intense

20179
01:28:12,926 --> 01:28:14,768
than currently exists in our

20180
01:28:14,768 --> 01:28:14,768
neighborhood.

20181
01:28:14,768 --> 01:28:17,099
although the request is tied t

20182
01:28:17,099 --> 01:28:17,099
o

20183
01:28:17,099 --> 01:28:19,605
a funeral home, this could wou

20184
01:28:19,605 --> 01:28:19,605
ld

20185
01:28:19,605 --> 01:28:21,274
allow much larger structure,

20186
01:28:21,274 --> 01:28:23,004
including the possibility of a

20187
01:28:23,004 --> 01:28:23,004


20188
01:28:23,004 --> 01:28:26,574
multi-story building extremely

20189
01:28:26,574 --> 01:28:26,574


20190
01:28:26,574 --> 01:28:28,342
close to my home that would

20191
01:28:28,342 --> 01:28:30,072
significantly affect my privacy

20192
01:28:30,072 --> 01:28:30,072
,

20193
01:28:30,072 --> 01:28:31,972
sunlight, and overall quality of

20194
01:28:31,972 --> 01:28:31,972


20195
01:28:31,972 --> 01:28:31,972
life.

20196
01:28:31,972 --> 01:28:34,916
this area is a family-oriented

20197
01:28:34,916 --> 01:28:34,916


20198
01:28:34,916 --> 01:28:34,916
neighborhood.

20199
01:28:34,916 --> 01:28:37,414
we have children under the age

20200
01:28:37,414 --> 01:28:37,414


20201
01:28:37,414 --> 01:28:40,485
of 10 who regularly play

20202
01:28:40,485 --> 01:28:42,136
outside, riding bicycle, playi

20203
01:28:42,136 --> 01:28:42,136
ng

20204
01:28:42,136 --> 01:28:43,858
basketball, and kicking soccer

20205
01:28:43,858 --> 01:28:43,858


20206
01:28:43,858 --> 01:28:45,288
balls in the yard.

20207
01:28:45,288 --> 01:28:48,570
introducing a commercial-scale

20208
01:28:48,570 --> 01:28:48,570


20209
01:28:48,570 --> 01:28:51,100
facility with increased traffic

20210
01:28:51,100 --> 01:28:51,100


20211
01:28:51,100 --> 01:28:53,158
and frequent visitation would

20212
01:28:53,158 --> 01:28:55,374
create safety risks for these

20213
01:28:55,374 --> 01:28:57,437
children who use the street and

20214
01:28:57,437 --> 01:28:57,437


20215
01:28:57,437 --> 01:28:58,548
surrounding area daily.

20216
01:28:58,548 --> 01:29:01,148
a funeral home will also be

20217
01:29:01,148 --> 01:29:03,006
additional vehicle trips,

20218
01:29:03,006 --> 01:29:07,847
deliveries of peak time

20219
01:29:07,847 --> 01:29:14,150
congestion within a short time

20220
01:29:14,150 --> 01:29:14,150


20221
01:29:14,150 --> 01:29:15,288
conflict of our home.

20222
01:29:15,288 --> 01:29:17,660
beyond safety, placing a

20223
01:29:17,660 --> 01:29:18,960
commercial building so close t

20224
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:18,960
o

20225
01:29:18,960 --> 01:29:21,930
my property would negatively

20226
01:29:21,930 --> 01:29:23,732
impact my home expral primarily

20227
01:29:23,732 --> 01:29:23,732


20228
01:29:23,732 --> 01:29:25,232
change the character of the

20229
01:29:25,232 --> 01:29:25,232
neighborhood.

20230
01:29:25,232 --> 01:29:27,406
for these reasons I respectfull

20231
01:29:27,406 --> 01:29:27,406
y

20232
01:29:27,406 --> 01:29:31,676
ask you not to approve the land

20233
01:29:31,676 --> 01:29:31,676


20234
01:29:31,676 --> 01:29:33,642
use change from 4 units to 6

20235
01:29:33,642 --> 01:29:33,642
units.

20236
01:29:33,642 --> 01:29:34,957
thank you for your time and

20237
01:29:34,957 --> 01:29:34,957
consideration.

20238
01:29:34,957 --> 01:29:35,648
>> thank you.

20239
01:29:35,648 --> 01:29:41,999
>> sharon bower.

20240
01:29:41,999 --> 01:29:45,390
>> I have a graphic I'd like t

20241
01:29:45,390 --> 01:29:45,390
o

20242
01:29:45,390 --> 01:29:45,390
project.

20243
01:29:45,390 --> 01:29:56,864
this shows not the zoning, but

20244
01:29:56,864 --> 01:29:56,864


20245
01:29:56,864 --> 01:29:57,638
the actual land use.

20246
01:29:57,638 --> 01:30:00,236
here are the chestnut propertie

20247
01:30:00,236 --> 01:30:00,236
s

20248
01:30:00,236 --> 01:30:00,236
here.

20249
01:30:00,236 --> 01:30:07,346
[indistinct] it's surrounded b

20250
01:30:07,346 --> 01:30:07,346
y

20251
01:30:07,346 --> 01:30:10,510
all sides by residential, singl

20252
01:30:10,510 --> 01:30:10,510
e

20253
01:30:10,510 --> 01:30:12,284
family and duplexes.

20254
01:30:12,284 --> 01:30:15,216
most of them, or many of them

20255
01:30:15,216 --> 01:30:16,722
like 40 feet away.

20256
01:30:16,722 --> 01:30:18,552
after december 18th plan board

20257
01:30:18,552 --> 01:30:18,552


20258
01:30:18,552 --> 01:30:20,280
meeting, our neighborhood

20259
01:30:20,280 --> 01:30:21,224
association northeast neighbors

20260
01:30:21,224 --> 01:30:21,224


20261
01:30:21,224 --> 01:30:24,986
asked why the chestnut familie

20262
01:30:24,986 --> 01:30:24,986
s

20263
01:30:24,986 --> 01:30:28,328
needed to use 6 zoning instead

20264
01:30:28,328 --> 01:30:28,328


20265
01:30:28,328 --> 01:30:30,585
of the current 3, and 50 acres

20266
01:30:30,585 --> 01:30:30,585


20267
01:30:30,585 --> 01:30:33,264
instead of 20 for their

20268
01:30:33,264 --> 01:30:33,928
northeast avenue property.

20269
01:30:33,928 --> 01:30:35,238
what they were planning that

20270
01:30:35,238 --> 01:30:36,812
they couldn't do under the

20271
01:30:36,812 --> 01:30:37,170
current zoning.

20272
01:30:37,170 --> 01:30:38,842
we got no answer.

20273
01:30:38,842 --> 01:30:41,044
then we saw the table of

20274
01:30:41,044 --> 01:30:43,781
permitted uses in the code of

20275
01:30:43,781 --> 01:30:48,150
ordinances and saw that a

20276
01:30:48,150 --> 01:30:52,755
funeral home, which a sign on

20277
01:30:52,755 --> 01:30:56,330
the site had announced isn't

20278
01:30:56,330 --> 01:30:58,462
allowed in the u4, even with a

20279
01:30:58,462 --> 01:30:58,462


20280
01:30:58,462 --> 01:31:00,460
special-use permit.

20281
01:31:00,460 --> 01:31:02,062
it would be allowed by right I

20282
01:31:02,062 --> 01:31:02,062
n

20283
01:31:02,062 --> 01:31:04,470
the proposed u6.

20284
01:31:04,470 --> 01:31:07,068
now that the land use is being

20285
01:31:07,068 --> 01:31:07,068


20286
01:31:07,068 --> 01:31:09,578
used to 20 units per acre to

20287
01:31:09,578 --> 01:31:11,474
urban mixed use, 50 units with

20288
01:31:11,474 --> 01:31:11,920
a

20289
01:31:11,920 --> 01:31:14,982
possible 50% density bonus for

20290
01:31:14,982 --> 01:31:14,982


20291
01:31:14,982 --> 01:31:17,014
things like tree preservation

20292
01:31:17,014 --> 01:31:19,785
and an extra two stories for

20293
01:31:19,785 --> 01:31:21,080
landscaping and pedestrian

20294
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:21,080
access.

20295
01:31:21,080 --> 01:31:23,588
instead of the two units and

20296
01:31:23,588 --> 01:31:25,347
three stories allowed, there

20297
01:31:25,347 --> 01:31:27,686
would be 90 units -- there cou

20298
01:31:27,686 --> 01:31:27,686
ld

20299
01:31:27,686 --> 01:31:30,022
be 90 units and seven stories.

20300
01:31:30,022 --> 01:31:30,022


20301
01:31:30,022 --> 01:31:34,198
the chestnut property's next a

20302
01:31:34,198 --> 01:31:34,198


20303
01:31:34,198 --> 01:31:36,052
church on northeast 8th avenue,

20304
01:31:36,052 --> 01:31:36,052


20305
01:31:36,052 --> 01:31:38,047
and it's surrounded on three

20306
01:31:38,047 --> 01:31:40,469
side by residences, 14

20307
01:31:40,469 --> 01:31:42,406
single-family homes, and three

20308
01:31:42,406 --> 01:31:42,406


20309
01:31:42,406 --> 01:31:42,406
duplexes.

20310
01:31:42,406 --> 01:31:47,648
the people most likely to suffe

20311
01:31:47,648 --> 01:31:47,648
r

20312
01:31:47,648 --> 01:31:50,278
the most negative impact on

20313
01:31:50,278 --> 01:31:51,960
their property values, if a

20314
01:31:51,960 --> 01:31:54,880
funeral home or a seven-story,

20315
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:54,880


20316
01:31:54,880 --> 01:31:57,122
90-unit apartment building is

20317
01:31:57,122 --> 01:32:00,051
built, or the owners of the

20318
01:32:00,051 --> 01:32:05,060
single-family homes that were

20319
01:32:05,060 --> 01:32:09,572
built in 200 #9 by the housing

20320
01:32:09,572 --> 01:32:09,572


20321
01:32:09,572 --> 01:32:10,631
and neighborhood corporation.

20322
01:32:10,631 --> 01:32:12,208
the only one that has changed

20323
01:32:12,208 --> 01:32:14,910
hands was sold in 2024.

20324
01:32:14,910 --> 01:32:17,614
I'm sure that you if you lived

20325
01:32:17,614 --> 01:32:17,614


20326
01:32:17,614 --> 01:32:19,712
in a residential neighborhood,

20327
01:32:19,712 --> 01:32:19,712


20328
01:32:19,712 --> 01:32:23,080
just single family and d duple

20329
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:23,080
xes,

20330
01:32:23,080 --> 01:32:27,584
would you not be happy having a

20331
01:32:27,584 --> 01:32:27,584


20332
01:32:27,584 --> 01:32:28,386
funeral home there.

20333
01:32:28,386 --> 01:32:30,192
that is why we are requesting

20334
01:32:30,192 --> 01:32:32,488
that you delay action on this

20335
01:32:32,488 --> 01:32:34,120
and hold a neighborhood

20336
01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:34,120
workshop.

20337
01:32:34,120 --> 01:32:37,100
there's been some confusion.

20338
01:32:37,100 --> 01:32:38,734
people didn't understand the

20339
01:32:38,734 --> 01:32:40,832
implications and the postcard

20340
01:32:40,832 --> 01:32:43,230
they got about today said it

20341
01:32:43,230 --> 01:32:45,440
would be voted on as early as

20342
01:32:45,440 --> 01:32:47,402
10:00 a.m., so people thought

20343
01:32:47,402 --> 01:32:48,468
they were supposed to come thi

20344
01:32:48,468 --> 01:32:48,468
s

20345
01:32:48,468 --> 01:32:49,999
morning and they couldn't,

20346
01:32:49,999 --> 01:32:51,308
because they're working, so

20347
01:32:51,308 --> 01:32:52,638
please, please listen to the

20348
01:32:52,638 --> 01:32:53,938
people in this neighborhood

20349
01:32:53,938 --> 01:32:55,162
because this is going -- you

20350
01:32:55,162 --> 01:32:56,408
would not want this across the

20351
01:32:56,408 --> 01:32:56,408


20352
01:32:56,408 --> 01:32:57,382
street from you.

20353
01:32:57,382 --> 01:33:04,450
>> that was our last speaker,

20354
01:33:04,450 --> 01:33:06,472
mr. Mayor.

20355
01:33:06,472 --> 01:33:07,984
>> mayor: commissioner book.

20356
01:33:07,984 --> 01:33:09,816
>> thank you, mr. Mayor.

20357
01:33:09,816 --> 01:33:12,530
such an interesting avenue

20358
01:33:12,530 --> 01:33:13,740
because we have so many

20359
01:33:13,740 --> 01:33:14,830
components going on, we

20360
01:33:14,830 --> 01:33:16,156
discussed it today.

20361
01:33:16,156 --> 01:33:19,214
we talking about mlk and the

20362
01:33:19,214 --> 01:33:20,650
citizen's field.

20363
01:33:20,650 --> 01:33:22,478
the way we develop the roadway

20364
01:33:22,478 --> 01:33:22,478


20365
01:33:22,478 --> 01:33:25,974
and the resurfacing, and land

20366
01:33:25,974 --> 01:33:27,742
use and zoning right in there.

20367
01:33:27,742 --> 01:33:27,742


20368
01:33:27,742 --> 01:33:29,846
I wish sometimes we were able t

20369
01:33:29,846 --> 01:33:29,846
o

20370
01:33:29,846 --> 01:33:32,069
consider them all together, and

20371
01:33:32,069 --> 01:33:32,069


20372
01:33:32,069 --> 01:33:33,356
it's very difficult to do that

20373
01:33:33,356 --> 01:33:33,356


20374
01:33:33,356 --> 01:33:35,214
because one piece holds up

20375
01:33:35,214 --> 01:33:36,504
another piece, and there's a lot

20376
01:33:36,504 --> 01:33:36,504


20377
01:33:36,504 --> 01:33:38,132
of dominoes in that regard.

20378
01:33:38,132 --> 01:33:39,988
I had a couple questions.

20379
01:33:39,988 --> 01:33:43,288
this is probably for city staff

20380
01:33:43,288 --> 01:33:43,288
,

20381
01:33:43,288 --> 01:33:45,450
but in driving down the

20382
01:33:45,450 --> 01:33:47,348
ne 8th avenue and looking at t

20383
01:33:47,348 --> 01:33:47,348
he

20384
01:33:47,348 --> 01:33:49,196
map there are two large parcels,

20385
01:33:49,196 --> 01:33:49,196


20386
01:33:49,196 --> 01:33:50,826
and it does not affect the

20387
01:33:50,826 --> 01:33:54,006
second parcel, and they're

20388
01:33:54,006 --> 01:33:54,006
identical.

20389
01:33:54,006 --> 01:33:57,368
this is one parcel that's about

20390
01:33:57,368 --> 01:33:57,368


20391
01:33:57,368 --> 01:33:58,650
1.5 acres plus.

20392
01:33:58,650 --> 01:34:00,474
is that right?

20393
01:34:00,474 --> 01:34:06,850
>> that's right.

20394
01:34:06,850 --> 01:34:09,954
so, there's four parcels in

20395
01:34:09,954 --> 01:34:11,384
consideration for the future

20396
01:34:11,384 --> 01:34:14,056
land use change in the rezoning.

20397
01:34:14,056 --> 01:34:14,056


20398
01:34:14,056 --> 01:34:18,288
I'll go back to the map that

20399
01:34:18,288 --> 01:34:22,020
shows the parcels, but

20400
01:34:22,020 --> 01:34:23,472
generally, it's considered --

20401
01:34:23,472 --> 01:34:25,504
there's three parcels actually,

20402
01:34:25,504 --> 01:34:25,504


20403
01:34:25,504 --> 01:34:29,536
sort of fronting northeast

20404
01:34:29,536 --> 01:34:29,919
8th avenue.

20405
01:34:29,919 --> 01:34:32,440
>> so the land use clang in this

20406
01:34:32,440 --> 01:34:32,440


20407
01:34:32,440 --> 01:34:33,808
particular case, as it's

20408
01:34:33,808 --> 01:34:35,552
currently situated, could not

20409
01:34:35,552 --> 01:34:36,880
have a funeral home and has to

20410
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:36,880


20411
01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:38,372
change if that was a potential

20412
01:34:38,372 --> 01:34:38,372


20413
01:34:38,372 --> 01:34:40,044
use that the applicant was

20414
01:34:40,044 --> 01:34:41,184
interested in.

20415
01:34:41,184 --> 01:34:41,528
>> that's correct.

20416
01:34:41,528 --> 01:34:46,016
so with the current urban 4

20417
01:34:46,016 --> 01:34:47,284
district does not allow funeral

20418
01:34:47,284 --> 01:34:47,284


20419
01:34:47,284 --> 01:34:48,094
homes by right.

20420
01:34:48,094 --> 01:34:51,900
it's not a permitted use in u4.

20421
01:34:51,900 --> 01:34:54,862
the u6 zoning district does I

20422
01:34:54,862 --> 01:34:55,792
law for funeral homes.

20423
01:34:55,792 --> 01:34:57,630
>> my last question is more jus

20424
01:34:57,630 --> 01:34:57,630
t

20425
01:34:57,630 --> 01:34:57,898
a comment.

20426
01:34:57,898 --> 01:34:59,294
we talked about engagement.

20427
01:34:59,294 --> 01:35:01,302
there's always a big differenc

20428
01:35:01,302 --> 01:35:01,302
e

20429
01:35:01,302 --> 01:35:05,904
between engagement in the

20430
01:35:05,904 --> 01:35:07,775
business area because there's

20431
01:35:07,775 --> 01:35:08,880
not a lot of homes around there

20432
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:08,880
.

20433
01:35:08,880 --> 01:35:10,711
so the people we get more

20434
01:35:10,711 --> 01:35:13,022
feedback in are more intereste

20435
01:35:13,022 --> 01:35:13,022
d

20436
01:35:13,022 --> 01:35:15,016
in the commercial enterprise,

20437
01:35:15,016 --> 01:35:17,413
but the northeast 8th avenue h

20438
01:35:17,413 --> 01:35:17,413
as

20439
01:35:17,413 --> 01:35:19,292
residents all the way down fro

20440
01:35:19,292 --> 01:35:19,292
m

20441
01:35:19,292 --> 01:35:23,190
really from here all the way t

20442
01:35:23,190 --> 01:35:23,190
o

20443
01:35:23,190 --> 01:35:24,984
horizon and to our school there

20444
01:35:24,984 --> 01:35:24,984
.

20445
01:35:24,984 --> 01:35:26,734
so always want to make sure we

20446
01:35:26,734 --> 01:35:26,734


20447
01:35:26,734 --> 01:35:29,162
have a really good feedback fro

20448
01:35:29,162 --> 01:35:29,162
m

20449
01:35:29,162 --> 01:35:33,030
the folks who are most impacte

20450
01:35:33,030 --> 01:35:33,030
d.

20451
01:35:33,030 --> 01:35:34,972
we had one person attend the

20452
01:35:34,972 --> 01:35:34,972
feedback.

20453
01:35:34,972 --> 01:35:37,082
we talked about having

20454
01:35:37,082 --> 01:35:39,134
engagement related to the

20455
01:35:39,134 --> 01:35:39,134
roadway.

20456
01:35:39,134 --> 01:35:42,312
I don't want to complicate

20457
01:35:42,312 --> 01:35:42,312
things.

20458
01:35:42,312 --> 01:35:44,415
it's always good to have that

20459
01:35:44,415 --> 01:35:46,784
type of engagement, as far as

20460
01:35:46,784 --> 01:35:48,980
people impacted, and this abuts

20461
01:35:48,980 --> 01:35:48,980


20462
01:35:48,980 --> 01:35:50,376
business and single family.

20463
01:35:50,376 --> 01:35:51,232
that's just my comment.

20464
01:35:51,232 --> 01:35:52,688
thank you for the work.

20465
01:35:52,688 --> 01:35:54,312
>> thank you, mr. Mayor.

20466
01:35:54,312 --> 01:35:55,094
>> mayor: thank you.

20467
01:35:55,094 --> 01:35:56,260
commission willis?

20468
01:35:56,260 --> 01:35:57,820
>> thank you, mr. Mayor.

20469
01:35:57,820 --> 01:36:01,464
so this is -- I'm a little

20470
01:36:01,464 --> 01:36:03,766
shocked that a funeral home is

20471
01:36:03,766 --> 01:36:03,766


20472
01:36:03,766 --> 01:36:06,802
not allowed in u4 but allowed I

20473
01:36:06,802 --> 01:36:06,802
n

20474
01:36:06,802 --> 01:36:06,802
u6.

20475
01:36:06,802 --> 01:36:09,466
I would imagine funeral home I

20476
01:36:09,466 --> 01:36:09,466
s

20477
01:36:09,466 --> 01:36:14,142
almost a very  suburban-ish in

20478
01:36:14,142 --> 01:36:14,142


20479
01:36:14,142 --> 01:36:14,142
nature.

20480
01:36:14,142 --> 01:36:19,611
it is not really urban use, in

20481
01:36:19,611 --> 01:36:19,611


20482
01:36:19,611 --> 01:36:20,052
my mind.

20483
01:36:20,052 --> 01:36:23,888
so why is it -- can you chart a

20484
01:36:23,888 --> 01:36:23,888


20485
01:36:23,888 --> 01:36:24,990
little bit more -- that's later

20486
01:36:24,990 --> 01:36:24,990
.

20487
01:36:24,990 --> 01:36:27,054
I'll wait for my zoning until

20488
01:36:27,054 --> 01:36:28,250
the actual zoning.

20489
01:36:28,250 --> 01:36:28,250


20490
01:36:28,250 --> 01:36:30,428
so I know that there was

20491
01:36:30,428 --> 01:36:33,197
reference that we did change t

20492
01:36:33,197 --> 01:36:33,197
he

20493
01:36:33,197 --> 01:36:34,828
land use of some of the parcels

20494
01:36:34,828 --> 01:36:34,828


20495
01:36:34,828 --> 01:36:36,272
or I think a couple of the

20496
01:36:36,272 --> 01:36:38,333
parcels in the very far

20497
01:36:38,333 --> 01:36:39,538
northeast of this intersection

20498
01:36:39,538 --> 01:36:39,538


20499
01:36:39,538 --> 01:36:43,030
with waldo and 8th very

20500
01:36:43,030 --> 01:36:46,074
recently, but this does feel a

20501
01:36:46,074 --> 01:36:46,074


20502
01:36:46,074 --> 01:36:47,110
little bit like putting the

20503
01:36:47,110 --> 01:36:48,477
carpet before the horse.

20504
01:36:48,477 --> 01:36:50,242
everything next door is zoned,

20505
01:36:50,242 --> 01:36:50,242


20506
01:36:50,242 --> 01:36:52,212
but it's also a big, huge,

20507
01:36:52,212 --> 01:36:55,279
mostly vacant parcels, right, t

20508
01:36:55,279 --> 01:36:55,279
o

20509
01:36:55,279 --> 01:36:57,593
the east right now.

20510
01:36:57,593 --> 01:36:58,748
largely vacant?

20511
01:36:58,748 --> 01:37:02,486
>> to the east, I believe -- I

20512
01:37:02,486 --> 01:37:02,486


20513
01:37:02,486 --> 01:37:03,688
can't speak to the current

20514
01:37:03,688 --> 01:37:07,168
status of whether they're --

20515
01:37:07,168 --> 01:37:11,696
whether they're in use actively

20516
01:37:11,696 --> 01:37:11,696


20517
01:37:11,696 --> 01:37:12,862
or not, but you're correct tha

20518
01:37:12,862 --> 01:37:12,862
t

20519
01:37:12,862 --> 01:37:15,600
the land use and zoning did

20520
01:37:15,600 --> 01:37:19,670
change from a pud over to the

20521
01:37:19,670 --> 01:37:20,663
zones on that corner.

20522
01:37:20,663 --> 01:37:22,848
>> I'm sure if the future, to

20523
01:37:22,848 --> 01:37:24,988
commissioner book's point, whe

20524
01:37:24,988 --> 01:37:24,988
n

20525
01:37:24,988 --> 01:37:26,337
we're looking at 8th avenue,

20526
01:37:26,337 --> 01:37:28,076
we're looking at some traffic

20527
01:37:28,076 --> 01:37:28,076
numbers.

20528
01:37:28,076 --> 01:37:30,554
it's not nearly as much as one

20529
01:37:30,554 --> 01:37:30,554


20530
01:37:30,554 --> 01:37:33,022
of the other sections, but all

20531
01:37:33,022 --> 01:37:33,022


20532
01:37:33,022 --> 01:37:34,086
of that corner, outside of wha

20533
01:37:34,086 --> 01:37:34,086
t

20534
01:37:34,086 --> 01:37:34,913
we're talking about today.

20535
01:37:34,913 --> 01:37:36,635
if all that developed in a way

20536
01:37:36,635 --> 01:37:36,635


20537
01:37:36,635 --> 01:37:37,958
that would perhaps have more

20538
01:37:37,958 --> 01:37:40,239
housing or commerce or mix, muc

20539
01:37:40,239 --> 01:37:40,239
h

20540
01:37:40,239 --> 01:37:41,467
more intense, that would chang

20541
01:37:41,467 --> 01:37:41,859
e  some of

20542
01:37:41,859 --> 01:37:42,907
some of the traffic on 8th.

20543
01:37:42,907 --> 01:37:46,334
so, I understand this is right

20544
01:37:46,334 --> 01:37:46,334


20545
01:37:46,334 --> 01:37:50,666
next to it, which that's kind o

20546
01:37:50,666 --> 01:37:50,666
f

20547
01:37:50,666 --> 01:37:51,890
that sequential.

20548
01:37:51,890 --> 01:37:54,678
we did one of these up on

20549
01:37:54,678 --> 01:37:56,138
northwest 16th, I believe,

20550
01:37:56,138 --> 01:37:59,374
behind the cvs, just one small

20551
01:37:59,374 --> 01:37:59,374


20552
01:37:59,374 --> 01:38:01,904
parcel, and we barely increased

20553
01:38:01,904 --> 01:38:01,904
the

20554
01:38:01,904 --> 01:38:03,064
the intensity, and that was

20555
01:38:03,064 --> 01:38:05,168
quite a conversation.

20556
01:38:05,168 --> 01:38:07,790
that was right next to something

20557
01:38:07,790 --> 01:38:07,790


20558
01:38:07,790 --> 01:38:09,318
that had been zoned for decades

20559
01:38:09,318 --> 01:38:09,318
,

20560
01:38:09,318 --> 01:38:12,130
at least two decades, and just

20561
01:38:12,130 --> 01:38:12,130


20562
01:38:12,130 --> 01:38:15,562
the one next parcel, about hal

20563
01:38:15,562 --> 01:38:15,562
f

20564
01:38:15,562 --> 01:38:16,668
an acre.

20565
01:38:16,668 --> 01:38:19,596
so, seems -- it makes sense if

20566
01:38:19,596 --> 01:38:19,596


20567
01:38:19,596 --> 01:38:20,704
you're talking about developing

20568
01:38:20,704 --> 01:38:20,704


20569
01:38:20,704 --> 01:38:24,438
the whole corner, but, I

20570
01:38:24,438 --> 01:38:25,976
appreciate that the larger map

20571
01:38:25,976 --> 01:38:25,976


20572
01:38:25,976 --> 01:38:31,240
that mr. Swageer shows, where I

20573
01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:31,240
t

20574
01:38:31,240 --> 01:38:33,280
transitions to -- if we could

20575
01:38:33,280 --> 01:38:36,822
show that, broadcast that

20576
01:38:36,822 --> 01:38:36,822
overhead.

20577
01:38:36,822 --> 01:38:39,224
we are the oldest single famil

20578
01:38:39,224 --> 01:38:39,224
y

20579
01:38:39,224 --> 01:38:40,894
is on the farther west and sou

20580
01:38:40,894 --> 01:38:40,894
th

20581
01:38:40,894 --> 01:38:40,894
side.

20582
01:38:40,894 --> 01:38:43,470
the section, the middle that I

20583
01:38:43,470 --> 01:38:43,470
s

20584
01:38:43,470 --> 01:38:47,956
mixed office resident -- mor I

20585
01:38:47,956 --> 01:38:47,956
s

20586
01:38:47,956 --> 01:38:50,360
not -- mixed use office

20587
01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:50,360
residential.

20588
01:38:50,360 --> 01:38:52,106
that's where it lies.

20589
01:38:52,106 --> 01:38:54,734
this helps give me a little mor

20590
01:38:54,734 --> 01:38:54,734
e

20591
01:38:54,734 --> 01:38:55,374
context for it.

20592
01:38:55,374 --> 01:38:55,374


20593
01:38:55,374 --> 01:39:04,218
seems like it's a little -- I

20594
01:39:04,218 --> 01:39:05,344
would wait until the other

20595
01:39:05,344 --> 01:39:07,614
properties got developed to see

20596
01:39:07,614 --> 01:39:07,614


20597
01:39:07,614 --> 01:39:10,048
what the demand is in the area

20598
01:39:10,048 --> 01:39:10,048


20599
01:39:10,048 --> 01:39:12,236
for land use because that mixed

20600
01:39:12,236 --> 01:39:12,236


20601
01:39:12,236 --> 01:39:14,754
op is clearly we're allowed to

20602
01:39:14,754 --> 01:39:14,754


20603
01:39:14,754 --> 01:39:17,720
have single family in the mixed

20604
01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:17,720


20605
01:39:17,720 --> 01:39:19,030
use office residential?

20606
01:39:19,030 --> 01:39:24,600
>> in urban 4 and urban 6 do

20607
01:39:24,600 --> 01:39:25,922
allow dominate.

20608
01:39:25,922 --> 01:39:28,260
>> in the mixed use office,

20609
01:39:28,260 --> 01:39:30,336
that's why we have some of the

20610
01:39:30,336 --> 01:39:30,336


20611
01:39:30,336 --> 01:39:34,766
homes in southeast 12th street

20612
01:39:34,766 --> 01:39:34,766
.

20613
01:39:34,766 --> 01:39:35,974
that's all I got for now.

20614
01:39:35,974 --> 01:39:36,642
thank you.

20615
01:39:36,642 --> 01:39:37,758
>> mayor: thank you,

20616
01:39:37,758 --> 01:39:38,814
commissioner willis.

20617
01:39:38,814 --> 01:39:40,340
would anyone like to make a

20618
01:39:40,340 --> 01:39:40,340
motion?

20619
01:39:40,340 --> 01:39:40,340


20620
01:39:40,340 --> 01:39:45,188
commissioner book.

20621
01:39:45,188 --> 01:39:47,068
>> I'd like to ask one more

20622
01:39:47,068 --> 01:39:47,068
question.

20623
01:39:47,068 --> 01:39:48,354
this is really for the city

20624
01:39:48,354 --> 01:39:48,354
manager.

20625
01:39:48,354 --> 01:39:52,258
I hate to complicate things.

20626
01:39:52,258 --> 01:39:54,498
is there any benefit in us not

20627
01:39:54,498 --> 01:39:54,498


20628
01:39:54,498 --> 01:39:56,768
kicking the can down the road,

20629
01:39:56,768 --> 01:39:56,768


20630
01:39:56,768 --> 01:39:58,298
but getting the same feedback

20631
01:39:58,298 --> 01:40:00,738
we're about to get from probabl

20632
01:40:00,738 --> 01:40:00,738
y

20633
01:40:00,738 --> 01:40:01,372
a lot of people for that

20634
01:40:01,372 --> 01:40:02,906
corridor because this is the

20635
01:40:02,906 --> 01:40:05,432
exact same stretch of road we're

20636
01:40:05,432 --> 01:40:05,432


20637
01:40:05,432 --> 01:40:07,612
about to get feedback on befor

20638
01:40:07,612 --> 01:40:07,612
e

20639
01:40:07,612 --> 01:40:09,239
or from your perspective,

20640
01:40:09,239 --> 01:40:13,316
mr. Manager -- [indistinct] two

20641
01:40:13,316 --> 01:40:13,316


20642
01:40:13,316 --> 01:40:14,518
very different situations, but

20643
01:40:14,518 --> 01:40:14,518


20644
01:40:14,518 --> 01:40:18,554
they're in the same geography.

20645
01:40:18,554 --> 01:40:18,554


20646
01:40:18,554 --> 01:40:20,620
>> mr. Mayor, I would say that

20647
01:40:20,620 --> 01:40:20,620


20648
01:40:20,620 --> 01:40:22,222
really kind of separate, two

20649
01:40:22,222 --> 01:40:23,628
separate issues.

20650
01:40:23,628 --> 01:40:27,198
I did also kind of want to

20651
01:40:27,198 --> 01:40:30,412
clarify one, somewhat wonky

20652
01:40:30,412 --> 01:40:32,766
aspect, of the discussion about

20653
01:40:32,766 --> 01:40:32,766


20654
01:40:32,766 --> 01:40:35,944
the allowance for a funeral

20655
01:40:35,944 --> 01:40:35,944
home.

20656
01:40:35,944 --> 01:40:38,574
urban 4 zoning in the list of

20657
01:40:38,574 --> 01:40:40,350
permitted uses allows for

20658
01:40:40,350 --> 01:40:42,374
personal services, which that

20659
01:40:42,374 --> 01:40:44,250
definition includes funeral

20660
01:40:44,250 --> 01:40:47,564
homes, so actually that urban 4

20661
01:40:47,564 --> 01:40:47,564


20662
01:40:47,564 --> 01:40:52,032
does allow funeral homes, just

20663
01:40:52,032 --> 01:40:53,549
not specific called-out use.

20664
01:40:53,549 --> 01:41:04,172
it's a little bit in the weeds

20665
01:41:04,172 --> 01:41:04,172
.

20666
01:41:04,172 --> 01:41:05,798
not something that jumps out

20667
01:41:05,798 --> 01:41:07,370
unless you're reading through

20668
01:41:07,370 --> 01:41:07,370
definition.

20669
01:41:07,370 --> 01:41:09,942
>> so why do we need the land

20670
01:41:09,942 --> 01:41:10,314
use change?

20671
01:41:10,314 --> 01:41:29,852
>> -- [indistinct] #

20672
01:41:29,852 --> 01:41:29,852


20673
01:41:29,852 --> 01:41:34,580
>> mayor: ms. Bower -- you had

20674
01:41:34,580 --> 01:41:34,580


20675
01:41:34,580 --> 01:41:35,544
your opportunities.

20676
01:41:35,544 --> 01:41:39,696
>> the question was important

20677
01:41:39,696 --> 01:41:40,486
since you brought it up.

20678
01:41:40,486 --> 01:41:42,208
why do we need the land use

20679
01:41:42,208 --> 01:41:42,208
change?

20680
01:41:42,208 --> 01:41:42,208


20681
01:41:42,208 --> 01:41:50,132
>> I'll take a swipe at it.

20682
01:41:50,132 --> 01:41:52,508
>> the manager's correct in tha

20683
01:41:52,508 --> 01:41:52,508
t

20684
01:41:52,508 --> 01:41:54,342
embedded in the definition

20685
01:41:54,342 --> 01:41:55,618
personal services, but then

20686
01:41:55,618 --> 01:41:57,614
there's the use table that

20687
01:41:57,614 --> 01:42:00,914
doesn't have funeral home as a

20688
01:42:00,914 --> 01:42:00,914


20689
01:42:00,914 --> 01:42:03,690
permitted use in u4, so there's

20690
01:42:03,690 --> 01:42:03,690


20691
01:42:03,690 --> 01:42:04,702
conflicted information.

20692
01:42:04,702 --> 01:42:07,600
so, I'll let the city planning

20693
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:07,600


20694
01:42:07,600 --> 01:42:09,226
director say more, but that was

20695
01:42:09,226 --> 01:42:09,226


20696
01:42:09,226 --> 01:42:10,866
the response I wanted to give t

20697
01:42:10,866 --> 01:42:10,866
o

20698
01:42:10,866 --> 01:42:12,070
you all.

20699
01:42:12,070 --> 01:42:12,564
>> good evening.

20700
01:42:12,564 --> 01:42:13,266
thank you all.

20701
01:42:13,266 --> 01:42:14,802
director of sustainable

20702
01:42:14,802 --> 01:42:14,802
development.

20703
01:42:14,802 --> 01:42:19,404
the u6 designation also include

20704
01:42:19,404 --> 01:42:19,404
s

20705
01:42:19,404 --> 01:42:21,382
crematory, which is an important

20706
01:42:21,382 --> 01:42:21,382


20707
01:42:21,382 --> 01:42:23,670
adoition that funeral home and

20708
01:42:23,670 --> 01:42:23,670


20709
01:42:23,670 --> 01:42:25,556
the personal services definitio

20710
01:42:25,556 --> 01:42:25,556
n

20711
01:42:25,556 --> 01:42:25,556
there.

20712
01:42:25,556 --> 01:42:31,746
>> so really largely that u6 I

20713
01:42:31,746 --> 01:42:31,746
s

20714
01:42:31,746 --> 01:42:32,852
again additional options or

20715
01:42:32,852 --> 01:42:34,454
opportunities for those

20716
01:42:34,454 --> 01:42:35,792
commercial practices.

20717
01:42:35,792 --> 01:42:38,990
>> very good.

20718
01:42:38,990 --> 01:42:40,659
>> mayor: commissioner book.

20719
01:42:40,659 --> 01:42:43,930
>> I know this merely because w

20720
01:42:43,930 --> 01:42:43,930
e

20721
01:42:43,930 --> 01:42:46,388
have someone on the dais --

20722
01:42:46,388 --> 01:42:48,104
makes us feel a little bit

20723
01:42:48,104 --> 01:42:51,242
awkward, but we apply the same

20724
01:42:51,242 --> 01:42:51,242


20725
01:42:51,242 --> 01:42:52,642
standards regardless of who's

20726
01:42:52,642 --> 01:42:53,736
involved, and those standards

20727
01:42:53,736 --> 01:42:55,608
are related to the comprehensi

20728
01:42:55,608 --> 01:42:55,608
ve

20729
01:42:55,608 --> 01:42:55,608
plan.

20730
01:42:55,608 --> 01:42:58,410
and if it's substantially in

20731
01:42:58,410 --> 01:42:59,544
compliance with the conference

20732
01:42:59,544 --> 01:42:59,544


20733
01:42:59,544 --> 01:43:01,212
of plan, then by law, not even

20734
01:43:01,212 --> 01:43:01,212


20735
01:43:01,212 --> 01:43:05,982
by opinion, by law we have to

20736
01:43:05,982 --> 01:43:07,030
move forward at least one of

20737
01:43:07,030 --> 01:43:07,030
these.

20738
01:43:07,030 --> 01:43:10,024
so, with that, I move approval

20739
01:43:10,024 --> 01:43:10,024


20740
01:43:10,024 --> 01:43:13,432
of 202-5994 and adopt the

20741
01:43:13,432 --> 01:43:14,862
proposed land use change.

20742
01:43:14,862 --> 01:43:16,434
>> second.

20743
01:43:16,434 --> 01:43:17,368
>> mayor: motion and a second.

20744
01:43:17,368 --> 01:43:17,368


20745
01:43:17,368 --> 01:43:18,914
commissioner willis.

20746
01:43:18,914 --> 01:43:21,054
>> thank you, mr. Mayor.

20747
01:43:21,054 --> 01:43:23,366
I know we're getting to zoning

20748
01:43:23,366 --> 01:43:23,366


20749
01:43:23,366 --> 01:43:25,502
in a minute, but some of this I

20750
01:43:25,502 --> 01:43:25,502
s

20751
01:43:25,502 --> 01:43:26,678
helping us understand what is

20752
01:43:26,678 --> 01:43:28,976
allowed in different land uses.

20753
01:43:28,976 --> 01:43:28,976


20754
01:43:28,976 --> 01:43:30,812
I will say I think it's crazy

20755
01:43:30,812 --> 01:43:33,782
that a crematory's allowed in u

20756
01:43:33,782 --> 01:43:33,782
6

20757
01:43:33,782 --> 01:43:36,510
and not u4 because higher up t

20758
01:43:36,510 --> 01:43:36,510
he

20759
01:43:36,510 --> 01:43:38,264
sect is more urban in nature.

20760
01:43:38,264 --> 01:43:39,856
does not make a lot of sense to

20761
01:43:39,856 --> 01:43:39,856


20762
01:43:39,856 --> 01:43:41,225
me, but thank you between the

20763
01:43:41,225 --> 01:43:45,460
manager and mr. [indistinct]

20764
01:43:45,460 --> 01:43:46,034
clarifying it.

20765
01:43:46,034 --> 01:43:47,672
same way talking about hospita

20766
01:43:47,672 --> 01:43:47,672
ls

20767
01:43:47,672 --> 01:43:48,662
and medical services.

20768
01:43:48,662 --> 01:43:50,731
sometimes it's -- the details

20769
01:43:50,731 --> 01:43:52,708
are lost in there somewhere wha

20770
01:43:52,708 --> 01:43:52,708
t

20771
01:43:52,708 --> 01:43:54,234
allowed and what isn't allowed.

20772
01:43:54,234 --> 01:43:54,234


20773
01:43:54,234 --> 01:43:56,206
thank you for clarifying that.

20774
01:43:56,206 --> 01:43:56,206


20775
01:43:56,206 --> 01:44:00,241
so, yeah, that is -- I'm still

20776
01:44:00,241 --> 01:44:00,774
a

20777
01:44:00,774 --> 01:44:04,184
little shocked that we allow I

20778
01:44:04,184 --> 01:44:04,184
t,

20779
01:44:04,184 --> 01:44:08,052
that our zoning code crematory

20780
01:44:08,052 --> 01:44:08,052


20781
01:44:08,052 --> 01:44:11,986
in u6 when I was hearing in a

20782
01:44:11,986 --> 01:44:13,484
different county, union county,

20783
01:44:13,484 --> 01:44:13,484


20784
01:44:13,484 --> 01:44:15,552
the conversation was in a rural

20785
01:44:15,552 --> 01:44:15,552


20786
01:44:15,552 --> 01:44:17,366
area, people thought it was too

20787
01:44:17,366 --> 01:44:17,366


20788
01:44:17,366 --> 01:44:19,058
close to homes, let alone close

20789
01:44:19,058 --> 01:44:19,058


20790
01:44:19,058 --> 01:44:21,910
to what -- the rest of u6 is

20791
01:44:21,910 --> 01:44:25,544
zoned up to 60 verses or 50

20792
01:44:25,544 --> 01:44:27,265
units per acre plus with

20793
01:44:27,265 --> 01:44:30,005
potential bonuses, putting a

20794
01:44:30,005 --> 01:44:31,205
crematory that close to even

20795
01:44:31,205 --> 01:44:32,068
more people.

20796
01:44:32,068 --> 01:44:33,107
I'm having a hard time

20797
01:44:33,107 --> 01:44:35,054
understanding how this got int

20798
01:44:35,054 --> 01:44:35,054
o

20799
01:44:35,054 --> 01:44:39,074
that portion of our comp plan,

20800
01:44:39,074 --> 01:44:39,074


20801
01:44:39,074 --> 01:44:40,176
unless it was completely

20802
01:44:40,176 --> 01:44:40,176
ignored.

20803
01:44:40,176 --> 01:44:43,454
I would think crematories and

20804
01:44:43,454 --> 01:44:44,436
stuff in general should be in

20805
01:44:44,436 --> 01:44:45,757
the more rural area you can

20806
01:44:45,757 --> 01:44:48,288
make, or industrial areas, chi

20807
01:44:48,288 --> 01:44:49,256
which

20808
01:44:49,256 --> 01:44:50,460
I know that's common.

20809
01:44:50,460 --> 01:44:51,324
thank you.

20810
01:44:51,324 --> 01:44:52,332
that's all I have.

20811
01:44:52,332 --> 01:44:54,054
>> mayor: thank you,

20812
01:44:54,054 --> 01:44:57,460
commissioner will is.

20813
01:44:57,460 --> 01:44:58,358
please call the roll.

20814
01:44:58,358 --> 01:45:12,621


20815
01:45:12,621 --> 01:45:20,026
>> mayor: that passes

20816
01:45:20,026 --> 01:45:21,952
unanimously with commissioner

20817
01:45:21,952 --> 01:45:23,852
chestnut abstaining.

20818
01:45:23,852 --> 01:45:26,229
good, commissioner book.

20819
01:45:26,229 --> 01:45:28,336
>> I want a statement released.

20820
01:45:28,336 --> 01:45:28,336


20821
01:45:28,336 --> 01:45:30,102
this first half is since we wi

20822
01:45:30,102 --> 01:45:30,102
ll

20823
01:45:30,102 --> 01:45:31,168
be doing some community

20824
01:45:31,168 --> 01:45:33,475
engagement, we already have the

20825
01:45:33,475 --> 01:45:33,475


20826
01:45:33,475 --> 01:45:35,138
week we've done extensive types

20827
01:45:35,138 --> 01:45:35,138


20828
01:45:35,138 --> 01:45:38,100
of engagement related to the

20829
01:45:38,100 --> 01:45:40,710
northeast 8th avenue, the mlk

20830
01:45:40,710 --> 01:45:42,394
center, citizen's field.

20831
01:45:42,394 --> 01:45:44,846
when we end up sending out mor

20832
01:45:44,846 --> 01:45:44,846
e

20833
01:45:44,846 --> 01:45:46,379
information about the northeast

20834
01:45:46,379 --> 01:45:46,379


20835
01:45:46,379 --> 01:45:50,754
avenue corridor.

20836
01:45:50,754 --> 01:45:52,290
certainly not complicating the

20837
01:45:52,290 --> 01:45:52,290


20838
01:45:52,290 --> 01:45:54,590
matter, providing additional

20839
01:45:54,590 --> 01:45:55,890
information about all the

20840
01:45:55,890 --> 01:45:58,196
components going on so all the

20841
01:45:58,196 --> 01:45:58,196


20842
01:45:58,196 --> 01:45:59,528
people want to weigh in.

20843
01:45:59,528 --> 01:46:01,092
would that be problematic?

20844
01:46:01,092 --> 01:46:05,394
>> I guess, can you clarify wha

20845
01:46:05,394 --> 01:46:05,394
t

20846
01:46:05,394 --> 01:46:06,601
you're asking that we would

20847
01:46:06,601 --> 01:46:06,962
notify about?

20848
01:46:06,962 --> 01:46:13,824
>> sure, for the last two years

20849
01:46:13,824 --> 01:46:13,824
,

20850
01:46:13,824 --> 01:46:14,808
we've been talking about

20851
01:46:14,808 --> 01:46:16,394
citizen's field, and we've got

20852
01:46:16,394 --> 01:46:16,394


20853
01:46:16,394 --> 01:46:17,594
information out many, many times

20854
01:46:17,594 --> 01:46:17,594


20855
01:46:17,594 --> 01:46:18,520
in many different ways.

20856
01:46:18,520 --> 01:46:19,844
earlier today we had the

20857
01:46:19,844 --> 01:46:21,747
northeast 8th avenue, the

20858
01:46:21,747 --> 01:46:22,782
roadway, and everything we're

20859
01:46:22,782 --> 01:46:24,557
doing, and clearly we're going

20860
01:46:24,557 --> 01:46:24,557


20861
01:46:24,557 --> 01:46:26,286
to focus on what neighbors and

20862
01:46:26,286 --> 01:46:26,286


20863
01:46:26,286 --> 01:46:27,926
businesses feel like around

20864
01:46:27,926 --> 01:46:29,857
there and our faith-based

20865
01:46:29,857 --> 01:46:31,581
community, and here we have a

20866
01:46:31,581 --> 01:46:32,592
third component right there in

20867
01:46:32,592 --> 01:46:32,592


20868
01:46:32,592 --> 01:46:35,328
the same area, and it seem to m

20869
01:46:35,328 --> 01:46:35,328
e

20870
01:46:35,328 --> 01:46:36,471
it would be to our benefit, eve

20871
01:46:36,471 --> 01:46:36,471
n

20872
01:46:36,471 --> 01:46:38,563
if we're not asking for input t

20873
01:46:38,563 --> 01:46:38,563
o

20874
01:46:38,563 --> 01:46:39,426
provide as much information

20875
01:46:39,426 --> 01:46:40,639
about all the things we know

20876
01:46:40,639 --> 01:46:57,079
that are going on in an area.

20877
01:46:57,079 --> 01:47:01,590
does that clarify a little bit?

20878
01:47:01,590 --> 01:47:01,590


20879
01:47:01,590 --> 01:47:02,970
>> yes, I believe so.

20880
01:47:02,970 --> 01:47:02,970


20881
01:47:02,970 --> 01:47:05,794
>> mayor: thank you,

20882
01:47:05,794 --> 01:47:09,844
commissioner book.

20883
01:47:09,844 --> 01:47:13,900
>> mr. Mayor, we're on to

20884
01:47:13,900 --> 01:47:16,306
ordinance 2025-995, ordinance o

20885
01:47:16,306 --> 01:47:16,306
f

20886
01:47:16,306 --> 01:47:17,502
the city of gainesville,

20887
01:47:17,502 --> 01:47:19,708
florida, amending the zoning

20888
01:47:19,708 --> 01:47:22,392
atlas by rezoning 1.3 acres of

20889
01:47:22,392 --> 01:47:22,392


20890
01:47:22,392 --> 01:47:24,078
property generally located at

20891
01:47:24,078 --> 01:47:27,010
the  1200 block of northeast

20892
01:47:27,010 --> 01:47:38,469
8th avenue.

20893
01:47:38,469 --> 01:47:49,775
>> this is the rezoning of the

20894
01:47:49,775 --> 01:47:49,775


20895
01:47:49,775 --> 01:47:53,846
chestnut petition.

20896
01:47:53,846 --> 01:47:55,956
so this is the same area we wer

20897
01:47:55,956 --> 01:47:55,956
e

20898
01:47:55,956 --> 01:47:57,098
just discussing.

20899
01:47:57,098 --> 01:47:58,003
the portion that we're

20900
01:47:58,003 --> 01:48:03,286
discussing now is the urban 6

20901
01:48:03,286 --> 01:48:05,787
area going from u4 to u6, and

20902
01:48:05,787 --> 01:48:07,988
same area we are discussing.

20903
01:48:07,988 --> 01:48:10,558
here you can see -- I'll pause

20904
01:48:10,558 --> 01:48:10,558


20905
01:48:10,558 --> 01:48:12,428
for a second to talk about the

20906
01:48:12,428 --> 01:48:12,428


20907
01:48:12,428 --> 01:48:14,329
zoning districts, so as you can

20908
01:48:14,329 --> 01:48:14,329


20909
01:48:14,329 --> 01:48:17,308
see in the blue urban 4 being

20910
01:48:17,308 --> 01:48:20,564
the subject property and u6

20911
01:48:20,564 --> 01:48:25,044
existing on the east side, so

20912
01:48:25,044 --> 01:48:26,107
east of the subject properties

20913
01:48:26,107 --> 01:48:26,107


20914
01:48:26,107 --> 01:48:28,180
to the south, there's more urb

20915
01:48:28,180 --> 01:48:28,180
an

20916
01:48:28,180 --> 01:48:30,810
4 zoning and to the west is

20917
01:48:30,810 --> 01:48:33,551
urban 3 zoning.

20918
01:48:33,551 --> 01:48:36,076
to the north with citizen's

20919
01:48:36,076 --> 01:48:40,220
field being public service, and

20920
01:48:40,220 --> 01:48:40,220


20921
01:48:40,220 --> 01:48:41,988
mu1 being to the north as well.

20922
01:48:41,988 --> 01:48:41,988


20923
01:48:41,988 --> 01:48:45,954
and urban 6 is the proposed

20924
01:48:45,954 --> 01:48:47,558
zoning district for this, and

20925
01:48:47,558 --> 01:48:49,788
I'll get a little bit into the

20926
01:48:49,788 --> 01:48:49,788


20927
01:48:49,788 --> 01:48:53,174
table with the permitted uses t

20928
01:48:53,174 --> 01:48:53,174
o

20929
01:48:53,174 --> 01:48:54,720
explain a little bit more

20930
01:48:54,720 --> 01:48:58,288
between u4 and u6, so, for thi

20931
01:48:58,288 --> 01:48:58,288
s

20932
01:48:58,288 --> 01:49:00,370
table you can see the uses

20933
01:49:00,370 --> 01:49:01,904
listed on the left.

20934
01:49:01,904 --> 01:49:03,442
those are uses just directly

20935
01:49:03,442 --> 01:49:04,972
from the land development code

20936
01:49:04,972 --> 01:49:04,972


20937
01:49:04,972 --> 01:49:07,168
of what is permitted, not

20938
01:49:07,168 --> 01:49:08,782
permitted, or allowed by

20939
01:49:08,782 --> 01:49:10,582
accessory, or allowed with a

20940
01:49:10,582 --> 01:49:12,230
special-use permit.

20941
01:49:12,230 --> 01:49:13,926
you can see the columns with u

20942
01:49:13,926 --> 01:49:13,926


20943
01:49:13,926 --> 01:49:16,994
u4 -- what's allowed is p with

20944
01:49:16,994 --> 01:49:17,858
a

20945
01:49:17,858 --> 01:49:20,296
permitted, allowed by accessory

20946
01:49:20,296 --> 01:49:20,296


20947
01:49:20,296 --> 01:49:23,129
a, and also the column for u6.

20948
01:49:23,129 --> 01:49:23,129


20949
01:49:23,129 --> 01:49:24,861
so I'll click through some of

20950
01:49:24,861 --> 01:49:24,861
these.

20951
01:49:24,861 --> 01:49:28,618
I've also highlighted in blue

20952
01:49:28,618 --> 01:49:30,768
where with the rezoning going

20953
01:49:30,768 --> 01:49:32,302
from u4 to u6.

20954
01:49:32,302 --> 01:49:35,352
if it's blue that means it is

20955
01:49:35,352 --> 01:49:36,714
now permitted in u6.

20956
01:49:36,714 --> 01:49:39,599
if they're rezoning carries

20957
01:49:39,599 --> 01:49:39,599
forward.

20958
01:49:39,599 --> 01:49:42,892
in the orange it would no longer

20959
01:49:42,892 --> 01:49:42,892


20960
01:49:42,892 --> 01:49:44,156
be permitted in u6.

20961
01:49:44,156 --> 01:49:46,322
you'll see there's all blues a

20962
01:49:46,322 --> 01:49:46,322
s

20963
01:49:46,322 --> 01:49:49,094
far as the change from u4 to u

20964
01:49:49,094 --> 01:49:49,094
6

20965
01:49:49,094 --> 01:49:49,632
is considered.

20966
01:49:49,632 --> 01:49:53,272
so there would be no, I guess,

20967
01:49:53,272 --> 01:49:53,272


20968
01:49:53,272 --> 01:49:55,194
loss of a permitted use if you

20969
01:49:55,194 --> 01:49:55,194


20970
01:49:55,194 --> 01:49:56,938
will, and this just captures t

20971
01:49:56,938 --> 01:49:56,938
he

20972
01:49:56,938 --> 01:49:58,167
non-residential uses.

20973
01:49:58,167 --> 01:50:01,104
I have another table going ove

20974
01:50:01,104 --> 01:50:01,104
r

20975
01:50:01,104 --> 01:50:02,636
density in the residential

20976
01:50:02,636 --> 01:50:02,636
component.

20977
01:50:02,636 --> 01:50:05,692
just clicking through.

20978
01:50:05,692 --> 01:50:07,790
as I explained previously, u6

20979
01:50:07,790 --> 01:50:09,409
zoning allows for more

20980
01:50:09,409 --> 01:50:11,046
non-residential uses, including

20981
01:50:11,046 --> 01:50:11,046


20982
01:50:11,046 --> 01:50:13,012
commercial and retail uses by

20983
01:50:13,012 --> 01:50:13,012
right.

20984
01:50:13,012 --> 01:50:14,986
so you can see as I click

20985
01:50:14,986 --> 01:50:16,674
through things like restaurant

20986
01:50:16,674 --> 01:50:16,674


20987
01:50:16,674 --> 01:50:17,940
and retail sales would be  al

20988
01:50:17,940 --> 01:50:22,856
allowed by right with the p?

20989
01:50:22,856 --> 01:50:25,152
in

20990
01:50:25,152 --> 01:50:25,860
u6 zoning.

20991
01:50:25,860 --> 01:50:40,909


20992
01:50:40,909 --> 01:50:45,048
going from u4 to u6, that would

20993
01:50:45,048 --> 01:50:45,048


20994
01:50:45,048 --> 01:50:47,316
be changing from 20 to 50 units

20995
01:50:47,316 --> 01:50:47,316


20996
01:50:47,316 --> 01:50:47,752
per acre.

20997
01:50:47,752 --> 01:50:50,112
just to note that the subject

20998
01:50:50,112 --> 01:50:51,190
area that is being considered

20999
01:50:51,190 --> 01:50:54,886
for rezoning is 1.38 acres, so,

21000
01:50:54,886 --> 01:50:54,886


21001
01:50:54,886 --> 01:50:57,890
at 50 units per acre, that's 69

21002
01:50:57,890 --> 01:50:57,890


21003
01:50:57,890 --> 01:50:59,848
units maximum.

21004
01:50:59,848 --> 01:51:02,032
we've discussed the maximum

21005
01:51:02,032 --> 01:51:05,098
stories going from u4 allows

21006
01:51:05,098 --> 01:51:06,936
three stories by right.

21007
01:51:06,936 --> 01:51:11,772
u6 allows four stories by right

21008
01:51:11,772 --> 01:51:11,772
,

21009
01:51:11,772 --> 01:51:14,144
and five with a bonus for tree

21010
01:51:14,144 --> 01:51:14,144


21011
01:51:14,144 --> 01:51:16,776
preservation or things like

21012
01:51:16,776 --> 01:51:17,647
affordable housing.

21013
01:51:17,647 --> 01:51:19,488
maximum height is listed there

21014
01:51:19,488 --> 01:51:19,488


21015
01:51:19,488 --> 01:51:22,656
as well, and there would be an

21016
01:51:22,656 --> 01:51:22,656


21017
01:51:22,656 --> 01:51:24,224
increased in required glazing.

21018
01:51:24,224 --> 01:51:24,224


21019
01:51:24,224 --> 01:51:27,186
changing from u4 to u6 dependi

21020
01:51:27,186 --> 01:51:27,186
ng

21021
01:51:27,186 --> 01:51:28,352
on the type of project that's

21022
01:51:28,352 --> 01:51:29,988
proposed, additional treatments

21023
01:51:29,988 --> 01:51:29,988


21024
01:51:29,988 --> 01:51:33,862
to the urban forum, like

21025
01:51:33,862 --> 01:51:36,708
sidewalk improvements or

21026
01:51:36,708 --> 01:51:38,026
material improvements, dependi

21027
01:51:38,026 --> 01:51:38,026
ng

21028
01:51:38,026 --> 01:51:39,532
on the project, may also be

21029
01:51:39,532 --> 01:51:42,070
imposed with different uses

21030
01:51:42,070 --> 01:51:43,468
being allowed at the site.

21031
01:51:43,468 --> 01:51:47,172
but generally, setbacks,

21032
01:51:47,172 --> 01:51:49,714
building placement and buildin

21033
01:51:49,714 --> 01:51:49,714
g

21034
01:51:49,714 --> 01:51:51,552
frontage, all would remain the

21035
01:51:51,552 --> 01:51:51,552


21036
01:51:51,552 --> 01:51:54,312
same between u4 and u6, and tha

21037
01:51:54,312 --> 01:51:54,312
t

21038
01:51:54,312 --> 01:51:55,316
should remain the same.

21039
01:51:55,316 --> 01:51:58,017
I can also talk about urban fiv

21040
01:51:58,017 --> 01:51:58,017
e

21041
01:51:58,017 --> 01:52:00,518
should you have any questions,

21042
01:52:00,518 --> 01:52:00,518


21043
01:52:00,518 --> 01:52:02,206
have some notes for that, if y

21044
01:52:02,206 --> 01:52:02,206
ou

21045
01:52:02,206 --> 01:52:02,820
are interested.

21046
01:52:02,820 --> 01:52:06,326
so, with the proposed zoning

21047
01:52:06,326 --> 01:52:11,362
staff reviewed the petition

21048
01:52:11,362 --> 01:52:14,106
based on the criteria in the

21049
01:52:14,106 --> 01:52:15,200
land development code.

21050
01:52:15,200 --> 01:52:18,072
the u6 zoning district is

21051
01:52:18,072 --> 01:52:19,036
compatible with the sownding

21052
01:52:19,036 --> 01:52:21,238
uses, and allowed intensity and

21053
01:52:21,238 --> 01:52:21,238


21054
01:52:21,238 --> 01:52:21,238
density.

21055
01:52:21,238 --> 01:52:23,836
u6 zoning exists to the east o

21056
01:52:23,836 --> 01:52:23,836
f

21057
01:52:23,836 --> 01:52:25,476
the subject property and many o

21058
01:52:25,476 --> 01:52:25,476
f

21059
01:52:25,476 --> 01:52:27,252
the u6 permitted uses are

21060
01:52:27,252 --> 01:52:29,076
similar to those in the u4

21061
01:52:29,076 --> 01:52:31,316
zoning district, with some of

21062
01:52:31,316 --> 01:52:33,252
those additional non-residenti

21063
01:52:33,252 --> 01:52:33,252
al

21064
01:52:33,252 --> 01:52:34,686
allowances I mentioned.

21065
01:52:34,686 --> 01:52:36,624
the proposed rezoning also

21066
01:52:36,624 --> 01:52:38,490
conformed to an additional set

21067
01:52:38,490 --> 01:52:38,490


21068
01:52:38,490 --> 01:52:43,962
of criteria, the transect zone

21069
01:52:43,962 --> 01:52:43,962


21070
01:52:43,962 --> 01:52:43,962
criteria.

21071
01:52:43,962 --> 01:52:48,141
it establishes a logical

21072
01:52:48,141 --> 01:52:49,781
extension of the existing u6 t

21073
01:52:49,781 --> 01:52:49,781
o

21074
01:52:49,781 --> 01:52:50,108
the exist.

21075
01:52:50,108 --> 01:52:54,140
a more urban transect zone is

21076
01:52:54,140 --> 01:52:55,668
appropriate considering the

21077
01:52:55,668 --> 01:52:57,304
interest in development in thi

21078
01:52:57,304 --> 01:52:57,304
s

21079
01:52:57,304 --> 01:52:58,744
area, and the improvements the

21080
01:52:58,744 --> 01:52:58,744


21081
01:52:58,744 --> 01:53:01,948
city's making to the corridor.

21082
01:53:01,948 --> 01:53:01,948


21083
01:53:01,948 --> 01:53:05,084
if development at the property

21084
01:53:05,084 --> 01:53:05,084


21085
01:53:05,084 --> 01:53:08,324
occurs the urban transect zone

21086
01:53:08,324 --> 01:53:08,324


21087
01:53:08,324 --> 01:53:09,634
standards would require

21088
01:53:09,634 --> 01:53:10,892
additional glazing, and

21089
01:53:10,892 --> 01:53:14,160
depending on the type of proje

21090
01:53:14,160 --> 01:53:14,160
ct

21091
01:53:14,160 --> 01:53:15,797
more material standards or oth

21092
01:53:15,797 --> 01:53:15,797
er

21093
01:53:15,797 --> 01:53:17,668
things may also be applied.

21094
01:53:17,668 --> 01:53:23,136
I also wanted to mention the u

21095
01:53:23,136 --> 01:53:23,136
6

21096
01:53:23,136 --> 01:53:25,872
zoning district would come int

21097
01:53:25,872 --> 01:53:25,872
o

21098
01:53:25,872 --> 01:53:28,612
play with the inclusionary

21099
01:53:28,612 --> 01:53:29,952
zoning requirement, so going

21100
01:53:29,952 --> 01:53:31,876
from u4 to u6.

21101
01:53:31,876 --> 01:53:34,176
u6 is one of the zoning distric

21102
01:53:34,176 --> 01:53:34,176
t

21103
01:53:34,176 --> 01:53:35,752
that is would require

21104
01:53:35,752 --> 01:53:37,216
inclusionary zoning if the

21105
01:53:37,216 --> 01:53:38,320
property were developed with

21106
01:53:38,320 --> 01:53:40,188
over 50 units.

21107
01:53:40,188 --> 01:53:41,286
and I think that is all that I

21108
01:53:41,286 --> 01:53:41,286


21109
01:53:41,286 --> 01:53:42,496
have to say.

21110
01:53:42,496 --> 01:53:45,677
staff recommends approval of

21111
01:53:45,677 --> 01:53:53,212
ld25- 000125, and the plan boa

21112
01:53:53,212 --> 01:53:53,212
rd

21113
01:53:53,212 --> 01:53:54,296
recommended approval of the

21114
01:53:54,296 --> 01:53:54,296
petition.

21115
01:53:54,296 --> 01:53:56,482
here for any questions you hav

21116
01:53:56,482 --> 01:53:56,482
e.

21117
01:53:56,482 --> 01:53:57,571
>> mayor: very good.

21118
01:53:57,571 --> 01:53:58,424
thank you.

21119
01:53:58,424 --> 01:53:59,874
applicant have anything to add

21120
01:53:59,874 --> 01:54:10,363
?

21121
01:54:10,363 --> 01:54:13,380
if you have questions for me,  I'

21122
01:54:13,380 --> 01:54:13,924
I'm glad to answer them.

21123
01:54:13,924 --> 01:54:16,432
with the umu land use, you nee

21124
01:54:16,432 --> 01:54:16,432
d

21125
01:54:16,432 --> 01:54:18,592
to consider a new zoning, and u

21126
01:54:18,592 --> 01:54:18,592
6

21127
01:54:18,592 --> 01:54:20,866
is one of the lower tier,

21128
01:54:20,866 --> 01:54:23,538
less-intense zoning options tha

21129
01:54:23,538 --> 01:54:23,538
t

21130
01:54:23,538 --> 01:54:23,936
you have.

21131
01:54:23,936 --> 01:54:28,082
I did want to mention too, in

21132
01:54:28,082 --> 01:54:29,538
the back to our previous

21133
01:54:29,538 --> 01:54:31,910
conversation a few minutes ago

21134
01:54:31,910 --> 01:54:31,910


21135
01:54:31,910 --> 01:54:33,840
at our neighborhood workshop, w

21136
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:33,840
e

21137
01:54:33,840 --> 01:54:35,974
did make an extra effort to lay

21138
01:54:35,974 --> 01:54:35,974


21139
01:54:35,974 --> 01:54:37,879
out the table to show what use

21140
01:54:37,879 --> 01:54:37,879
s

21141
01:54:37,879 --> 01:54:40,914
are allowed, what's not allowed,

21142
01:54:40,914 --> 01:54:40,914


21143
01:54:40,914 --> 01:54:42,312
what are the changes.

21144
01:54:42,312 --> 01:54:44,082
we were clear and announced tha

21145
01:54:44,082 --> 01:54:44,082
t

21146
01:54:44,082 --> 01:54:47,359
the funeral home is a

21147
01:54:47,359 --> 01:54:47,359
possibility.

21148
01:54:47,359 --> 01:54:49,026
we're trying to be transparent

21149
01:54:49,026 --> 01:54:49,026


21150
01:54:49,026 --> 01:54:50,468
about this, but, of course, you

21151
01:54:50,468 --> 01:54:50,468


21152
01:54:50,468 --> 01:54:51,696
all have to consider all the

21153
01:54:51,696 --> 01:54:53,488
uses that are allowed in u6, a

21154
01:54:53,488 --> 01:54:53,488
nd

21155
01:54:53,488 --> 01:54:55,364
we really think it's compatibl

21156
01:54:55,364 --> 01:54:55,364
e

21157
01:54:55,364 --> 01:54:58,370
with that overall map pattern w

21158
01:54:58,370 --> 01:54:58,370
e

21159
01:54:58,370 --> 01:54:59,658
had discussed a few minutes ago

21160
01:54:59,658 --> 01:54:59,658
.

21161
01:54:59,658 --> 01:55:00,838
if you have any questions for

21162
01:55:00,838 --> 01:55:03,942
me, I would be glad to answer

21163
01:55:03,942 --> 01:55:03,942
--

21164
01:55:03,942 --> 01:55:04,836
one last thing too.

21165
01:55:04,836 --> 01:55:07,752
I think the neighbor who was

21166
01:55:07,752 --> 01:55:10,152
here and left, if a project

21167
01:55:10,152 --> 01:55:11,862
comes sphward they'll have to

21168
01:55:11,862 --> 01:55:11,862
--

21169
01:55:11,862 --> 01:55:15,882
forward, stl they'll have to d

21170
01:55:15,882 --> 01:55:16,048
o a

21171
01:55:16,048 --> 01:55:17,822
site plan review, and most

21172
01:55:17,822 --> 01:55:18,653
likely neighborhood workshop.

21173
01:55:18,653 --> 01:55:20,852
I'm sure this project would tak

21174
01:55:20,852 --> 01:55:20,852
e

21175
01:55:20,852 --> 01:55:21,726
into consideration local stree

21176
01:55:21,726 --> 01:55:21,726
ts

21177
01:55:21,726 --> 01:55:24,020
and neighbors and zoning code

21178
01:55:24,020 --> 01:55:26,624
allows -- I'm sorry, it require

21179
01:55:26,624 --> 01:55:26,624
s

21180
01:55:26,624 --> 01:55:28,728
buildings to be fronting the

21181
01:55:28,728 --> 01:55:29,910
primary street, addressing the

21182
01:55:29,910 --> 01:55:29,910


21183
01:55:29,910 --> 01:55:32,430
street, which is 8th avenue, a

21184
01:55:32,430 --> 01:55:32,430
nd

21185
01:55:32,430 --> 01:55:34,294
so the concentration of any

21186
01:55:34,294 --> 01:55:35,635
development on this property I

21187
01:55:35,635 --> 01:55:35,635
s

21188
01:55:35,635 --> 01:55:37,174
going to be towards the more

21189
01:55:37,174 --> 01:55:39,444
primary street and away from t

21190
01:55:39,444 --> 01:55:39,444
he

21191
01:55:39,444 --> 01:55:42,949
residential area to the south.

21192
01:55:42,949 --> 01:55:42,949


21193
01:55:42,949 --> 01:55:43,914
certainly aware of that issue.

21194
01:55:43,914 --> 01:55:43,914


21195
01:55:43,914 --> 01:55:44,274
thank you.

21196
01:55:44,274 --> 01:55:45,574
>> mayor: thank you,

21197
01:55:45,574 --> 01:55:47,360
mr. Swager.

21198
01:55:47,360 --> 01:55:51,804
I would point out also that ha

21199
01:55:51,804 --> 01:55:51,804
s

21200
01:55:51,804 --> 01:55:58,270
been alluded, it's our decision

21201
01:55:58,270 --> 01:55:58,270


21202
01:55:58,270 --> 01:55:59,630
tonight to allow a particular

21203
01:55:59,630 --> 01:55:59,630
use.

21204
01:55:59,630 --> 01:56:01,222
whether to allow the different

21205
01:56:01,222 --> 01:56:01,222


21206
01:56:01,222 --> 01:56:01,222
zoning.

21207
01:56:01,222 --> 01:56:06,370
not what will go in that, on

21208
01:56:06,370 --> 01:56:07,226
these lots.

21209
01:56:07,226 --> 01:56:10,102
that is for a future question.

21210
01:56:10,102 --> 01:56:10,102


21211
01:56:10,102 --> 01:56:12,500
tonight's question is, will we

21212
01:56:12,500 --> 01:56:12,500


21213
01:56:12,500 --> 01:56:14,072
allow the zoning to move forwa

21214
01:56:14,072 --> 01:56:14,072
rd

21215
01:56:14,072 --> 01:56:15,774
as requested?

21216
01:56:15,774 --> 01:56:20,956
commissioner willits.

21217
01:56:20,956 --> 01:56:24,124
>> questions about u5 instead o

21218
01:56:24,124 --> 01:56:24,124
f

21219
01:56:24,124 --> 01:56:24,124
u6.

21220
01:56:24,124 --> 01:56:28,460
u5 is allow inside thi

21221
01:56:28,460 --> 01:56:32,668
>> it's actually not.

21222
01:56:32,668 --> 01:56:41,465
skipping to 6, what about 5. D

21223
01:56:41,465 --> 01:56:41,730
on't have my laptop.

21224
01:56:41,730 --> 01:56:44,578
it's at it, but I have my

21225
01:56:44,578 --> 01:56:46,108
phone -- the better question.

21226
01:56:46,108 --> 01:56:47,840
what are the other zonings

21227
01:56:47,840 --> 01:56:47,840
allowed?

21228
01:56:47,840 --> 01:56:50,210
that's kind of what I was

21229
01:56:50,210 --> 01:56:51,779
looking at.

21230
01:56:51,779 --> 01:56:55,181
in the urban mixed use zoning

21231
01:56:55,181 --> 01:56:57,786
district -- sorry, future land

21232
01:56:57,786 --> 01:56:57,786


21233
01:56:57,786 --> 01:56:59,654
use category, there are three

21234
01:56:59,654 --> 01:57:01,390
sort of allowable zoning

21235
01:57:01,390 --> 01:57:03,392
districts to choose from that

21236
01:57:03,392 --> 01:57:05,390
would be permitted in that

21237
01:57:05,390 --> 01:57:05,390
category.

21238
01:57:05,390 --> 01:57:09,160
it would be u6, u7, or u8.

21239
01:57:09,160 --> 01:57:11,872
the u5 zoning district is only

21240
01:57:11,872 --> 01:57:11,872


21241
01:57:11,872 --> 01:57:14,804
allowed in the mixed-use

21242
01:57:14,804 --> 01:57:16,440
residential future land use

21243
01:57:16,440 --> 01:57:18,144
category, which is primarily

21244
01:57:18,144 --> 01:57:24,882
areas like  sorority row

21245
01:57:24,882 --> 01:57:26,192
surrounding the university tha

21246
01:57:26,192 --> 01:57:26,192
t

21247
01:57:26,192 --> 01:57:27,878
have a unique set of

21248
01:57:27,878 --> 01:57:28,850
circumstances that have

21249
01:57:28,850 --> 01:57:30,278
descriptions of the u5 zoning

21250
01:57:30,278 --> 01:57:32,224
district if you're curious, but

21251
01:57:32,224 --> 01:57:32,224


21252
01:57:32,224 --> 01:57:33,374
that is not something that cou

21253
01:57:33,374 --> 01:57:33,374
ld

21254
01:57:33,374 --> 01:57:35,890
be placed in the urban mixed u

21255
01:57:35,890 --> 01:57:35,890
se

21256
01:57:35,890 --> 01:57:36,458
future land category.

21257
01:57:36,458 --> 01:57:38,794
>> I want to remind -- which

21258
01:57:38,794 --> 01:57:40,892
runs are available?

21259
01:57:40,892 --> 01:57:42,792
so then, can you tell me the

21260
01:57:42,792 --> 01:57:44,002
difference between u6.

21261
01:57:44,002 --> 01:57:46,694
typically as you go up, more a

21262
01:57:46,694 --> 01:57:46,694
nd

21263
01:57:46,694 --> 01:57:48,468
more things are allowed and

21264
01:57:48,468 --> 01:57:49,910
permitted, but I wanted to

21265
01:57:49,910 --> 01:57:51,543
double check on a few things.

21266
01:57:51,543 --> 01:57:55,912
drive-through facility is

21267
01:57:55,912 --> 01:57:57,572
allowed and permitted in u6.

21268
01:57:57,572 --> 01:58:00,478
is it permitted in u7 and u8?

21269
01:58:00,478 --> 01:58:02,178
>> I can check that.

21270
01:58:02,178 --> 01:58:02,178


21271
01:58:02,178 --> 01:58:06,518
table is limited in its

21272
01:58:06,518 --> 01:58:06,518
research.

21273
01:58:06,518 --> 01:58:12,306
>> it's one that wasn't allowed

21274
01:58:12,306 --> 01:58:12,306


21275
01:58:12,306 --> 01:58:14,966
in u4, but it is permitted in

21276
01:58:14,966 --> 01:58:14,966
u6.

21277
01:58:14,966 --> 01:58:18,460
so I'm trying -- in general, I

21278
01:58:18,460 --> 01:58:18,460


21279
01:58:18,460 --> 01:58:20,510
know that usually as you go up

21280
01:58:20,510 --> 01:58:20,510


21281
01:58:20,510 --> 01:58:21,700
more and more things are

21282
01:58:21,700 --> 01:58:24,010
permitted, but I think some

21283
01:58:24,010 --> 01:58:25,964
things drop out as you get

21284
01:58:25,964 --> 01:58:27,204
closer to u9.

21285
01:58:27,204 --> 01:58:28,150
>> that's correct.

21286
01:58:28,150 --> 01:58:29,732
some uses do drop off as you g

21287
01:58:29,732 --> 01:58:29,732
et

21288
01:58:29,732 --> 01:58:34,182
to the more intensive united d

21289
01:58:34,182 --> 01:58:34,182
t

21290
01:58:34,182 --> 01:58:35,926
zoning districts, but

21291
01:58:35,926 --> 01:58:37,690
drive-through facilities are

21292
01:58:37,690 --> 01:58:39,882
allowed in u6 and through u8.

21293
01:58:39,882 --> 01:58:41,860
>> this is where I get to -- t

21294
01:58:41,860 --> 01:58:41,860
he

21295
01:58:41,860 --> 01:58:45,258
idea of permitting, and I know

21296
01:58:45,258 --> 01:58:45,258


21297
01:58:45,258 --> 01:58:47,590
we, on the legislative, somewha

21298
01:58:47,590 --> 01:58:47,590
t

21299
01:58:47,590 --> 01:58:49,536
optional side land use, we

21300
01:58:49,536 --> 01:58:50,930
already at least one time

21301
01:58:50,930 --> 01:58:53,964
around, made that decision, but

21302
01:58:53,964 --> 01:58:53,964


21303
01:58:53,964 --> 01:58:55,842
zoning it for that one in

21304
01:58:55,842 --> 01:59:01,284
particular in this specific are

21305
01:59:01,284 --> 01:59:01,284
a

21306
01:59:01,284 --> 01:59:03,528
seems a little crazy that you'd

21307
01:59:03,528 --> 01:59:03,528


21308
01:59:03,528 --> 01:59:05,238
have a drive-through facility

21309
01:59:05,238 --> 01:59:06,812
there, and like a lot of these

21310
01:59:06,812 --> 01:59:06,812


21311
01:59:06,812 --> 01:59:09,216
other ones, things that don't

21312
01:59:09,216 --> 01:59:14,886
make a lot of sense right there

21313
01:59:14,886 --> 01:59:14,886
.

21314
01:59:14,886 --> 01:59:16,522
so anyways, that's the one tha

21315
01:59:16,522 --> 01:59:16,522
t

21316
01:59:16,522 --> 01:59:20,890
stuck out to me on the list of

21317
01:59:20,890 --> 01:59:20,890


21318
01:59:20,890 --> 01:59:24,062
just because it is still jamme

21319
01:59:24,062 --> 01:59:24,062
d

21320
01:59:24,062 --> 01:59:26,136
in next to not very far away

21321
01:59:26,136 --> 01:59:29,532
single-family homes, out of the

21322
01:59:29,532 --> 01:59:29,532


21323
01:59:29,532 --> 01:59:30,026
quiet corner.

21324
01:59:30,026 --> 01:59:31,776
up on 8th avenue it's a little

21325
01:59:31,776 --> 01:59:31,776


21326
01:59:31,776 --> 01:59:34,138
bit a little more busy and

21327
01:59:34,138 --> 01:59:34,138
denser.

21328
01:59:34,138 --> 01:59:34,138
makessense.

21329
01:59:34,138 --> 01:59:38,514
if you want to build 30 units a

21330
01:59:38,514 --> 01:59:38,514
n

21331
01:59:38,514 --> 01:59:38,514
acre.

21332
01:59:38,514 --> 01:59:41,482
that makes sense to me, put

21333
01:59:41,482 --> 01:59:43,192
people close to what's going t

21334
01:59:43,192 --> 01:59:43,192
o

21335
01:59:43,192 --> 01:59:44,183
be a great park, you know.

21336
01:59:44,183 --> 01:59:46,466
anyways, that's just -- that

21337
01:59:46,466 --> 01:59:47,920
stuck o out to me.

21338
01:59:47,920 --> 01:59:53,582
thank you, mr. Chan.

21339
01:59:53,582 --> 01:59:55,526
>> mayor: any public comment?

21340
01:59:55,526 --> 01:59:57,864
>> yes, ms. Sharon bower.

21341
01:59:57,864 --> 02:00:00,096
>> mayor: welcome, ms. Bower.

21342
02:00:00,096 --> 02:00:02,332
>> I know I'm wasting my breat

21343
02:00:02,332 --> 02:00:02,332
h,

21344
02:00:02,332 --> 02:00:06,738
but I do want to point out tha

21345
02:00:06,738 --> 02:00:06,738
t

21346
02:00:06,738 --> 02:00:08,471
irrespective of how you have

21347
02:00:08,471 --> 02:00:10,682
changed the land use, there is

21348
02:00:10,682 --> 02:00:10,682


21349
02:00:10,682 --> 02:00:13,978
this parcel where john phlegmi

21350
02:00:13,978 --> 02:00:13,978
ng

21351
02:00:13,978 --> 02:00:17,593
has put together 7 acres

21352
02:00:17,593 --> 02:00:19,316
fronting a highway to put a

21353
02:00:19,316 --> 02:00:19,844
development there.

21354
02:00:19,844 --> 02:00:22,526
other than the sunny food m

21355
02:00:22,526 --> 02:00:25,478
the east end eatery, and the

21356
02:00:25,478 --> 02:00:27,740
union hall [indistinct] on the

21357
02:00:27,740 --> 02:00:27,740


21358
02:00:27,740 --> 02:00:30,600
highway, there is no commercia

21359
02:00:30,600 --> 02:00:30,600
l

21360
02:00:30,600 --> 02:00:32,624
from here all the way to main

21361
02:00:32,624 --> 02:00:32,624
street.

21362
02:00:32,624 --> 02:00:32,624
none.

21363
02:00:32,624 --> 02:00:36,834
so, the use is residential.

21364
02:00:36,834 --> 02:00:40,936
it's all single family and

21365
02:00:40,936 --> 02:00:44,479
duplexes, except for -- santos.

21366
02:00:44,479 --> 02:00:44,479


21367
02:00:44,479 --> 02:00:46,210
he had a duplex and built a

21368
02:00:46,210 --> 02:00:46,974
single family.

21369
02:00:46,974 --> 02:00:48,620
that's the highest-density

21370
02:00:48,620 --> 02:00:50,014
thing, other than the housing

21371
02:00:50,014 --> 02:00:51,676
authority down by main street.

21372
02:00:51,676 --> 02:00:51,676


21373
02:00:51,676 --> 02:00:55,486
you're destroying neighborhoods

21374
02:00:55,486 --> 02:00:55,486
.

21375
02:00:55,486 --> 02:00:56,497
these are established

21376
02:00:56,497 --> 02:00:56,497
neighborhoods.

21377
02:00:56,497 --> 02:00:59,234
these are duck pond area.

21378
02:00:59,234 --> 02:01:03,994
the appraiser's office calls o

21379
02:01:03,994 --> 02:01:03,994
ur

21380
02:01:03,994 --> 02:01:05,264
neighborhood duck pond area or

21381
02:01:05,264 --> 02:01:05,264


21382
02:01:05,264 --> 02:01:06,678
east of duck pond.

21383
02:01:06,678 --> 02:01:11,405
so, I just don't understand why

21384
02:01:11,405 --> 02:01:11,405


21385
02:01:11,405 --> 02:01:13,006
iowa would allow -- you would

21386
02:01:13,006 --> 02:01:13,986
allow t

21387
02:01:13,986 --> 02:01:17,078
why you would allow these poor

21388
02:01:17,078 --> 02:01:17,078


21389
02:01:17,078 --> 02:01:18,576
people who dreamed of buying a

21390
02:01:18,576 --> 02:01:18,576


21391
02:01:18,576 --> 02:01:20,210
home and bought the homes from

21392
02:01:20,210 --> 02:01:20,210


21393
02:01:20,210 --> 02:01:22,082
the national -- I mean, from t

21394
02:01:22,082 --> 02:01:22,082
he

21395
02:01:22,082 --> 02:01:23,282
neighborhood housing development

21396
02:01:23,282 --> 02:01:23,282


21397
02:01:23,282 --> 02:01:23,282
corporation.

21398
02:01:23,282 --> 02:01:25,579
these five beautiful homes

21399
02:01:25,579 --> 02:01:28,928
there, and single family all

21400
02:01:28,928 --> 02:01:30,368
there, and I don't know, a

21401
02:01:30,368 --> 02:01:30,766
funeral home.

21402
02:01:30,766 --> 02:01:38,830
the table s says you four no, u

21403
02:01:38,830 --> 02:01:38,830
6

21404
02:01:38,830 --> 02:01:41,332
yes for a funeral home or

21405
02:01:41,332 --> 02:01:41,332
crematorium.

21406
02:01:41,332 --> 02:01:43,834
you don't care about these

21407
02:01:43,834 --> 02:01:44,994
single-family homes.

21408
02:01:44,994 --> 02:01:46,308
they're going to have this

21409
02:01:46,308 --> 02:01:47,373
40 feet away from them.

21410
02:01:47,373 --> 02:01:48,044
it baffles me.

21411
02:01:48,044 --> 02:01:55,016
>> mayor: thank you,

21412
02:01:55,016 --> 02:01:56,827
ms. Bower.

21413
02:01:56,827 --> 02:01:58,176
commissioner eastman.

21414
02:01:58,176 --> 02:02:09,330
>> whenever these things come

21415
02:02:09,330 --> 02:02:10,428
up, people look at the most

21416
02:02:10,428 --> 02:02:12,230
intensive uses one step above.

21417
02:02:12,230 --> 02:02:12,230


21418
02:02:12,230 --> 02:02:13,530
I think about that as we're

21419
02:02:13,530 --> 02:02:15,578
trying to potentially increase

21420
02:02:15,578 --> 02:02:15,578


21421
02:02:15,578 --> 02:02:15,578
uses.

21422
02:02:15,578 --> 02:02:20,776
this allows an alcoholic

21423
02:02:20,776 --> 02:02:22,687
beverage establishment.

21424
02:02:22,687 --> 02:02:24,473
the highest use.

21425
02:02:24,473 --> 02:02:27,347
we have u4 4 across the street

21426
02:02:27,347 --> 02:02:27,347


21427
02:02:27,347 --> 02:02:28,076
from my house.

21428
02:02:28,076 --> 02:02:29,944
I have u6 in the neighborhoods

21429
02:02:29,944 --> 02:02:29,944


21430
02:02:29,944 --> 02:02:31,820
north of mine right behind the

21431
02:02:31,820 --> 02:02:31,820
se

21432
02:02:31,820 --> 02:02:31,820
houses.

21433
02:02:31,820 --> 02:02:36,385
these more-intensive zoning

21434
02:02:36,385 --> 02:02:38,035
districts exist in the very old

21435
02:02:38,035 --> 02:02:38,035


21436
02:02:38,035 --> 02:02:39,498
neighborhoods, and this is one

21437
02:02:39,498 --> 02:02:39,498


21438
02:02:39,498 --> 02:02:39,750
of those.

21439
02:02:39,750 --> 02:02:42,323
like I said, u6 right next doo

21440
02:02:42,323 --> 02:02:42,323
r

21441
02:02:42,323 --> 02:02:44,503
to it, which is why I feel

21442
02:02:44,503 --> 02:02:46,562
fairly comfortable with where w

21443
02:02:46,562 --> 02:02:46,562
e

21444
02:02:46,562 --> 02:02:46,901
are with it.

21445
02:02:46,901 --> 02:02:49,834
it's a -- there's shops

21446
02:02:49,834 --> 02:02:54,565
nearby, and there's no single --

21447
02:02:54,565 --> 02:02:54,565


21448
02:02:54,565 --> 02:02:57,487
[indistinct] single family ove

21449
02:02:57,487 --> 02:02:57,487
r

21450
02:02:57,487 --> 02:02:58,274
to where this would be.

21451
02:02:58,274 --> 02:02:59,905
so there's a bit of a buffer

21452
02:02:59,905 --> 02:02:59,905
there.

21453
02:02:59,905 --> 02:03:03,083
and so I feel very comfortable

21454
02:03:03,083 --> 02:03:03,083


21455
02:03:03,083 --> 02:03:05,826
making a motion for ordinance

21456
02:03:05,826 --> 02:03:08,803
no. 2025-995.

21457
02:03:08,803 --> 02:03:15,468
>> mayor: madam clerk, please

21458
02:03:15,468 --> 02:03:16,658
call the role.

21459
02:03:16,658 --> 02:03:18,655
>> commissioner eastman.

21460
02:03:18,655 --> 02:03:22,139
commissioner ingle.

21461
02:03:22,139 --> 02:03:24,840
commissioner duncan-walker.

21462
02:03:24,840 --> 02:03:26,128
mayor ward.

21463
02:03:26,128 --> 02:03:27,970
>> mayor: that passes

21464
02:03:27,970 --> 02:03:29,440
unanimously with commissioner

21465
02:03:29,440 --> 02:03:30,440
chestnut abstaining.

21466
02:03:30,440 --> 02:03:31,771
madam clerk.

21467
02:03:31,771 --> 02:03:31,771


21468
02:03:31,771 --> 02:03:39,957
>> mr. Mayor, we're going back

21469
02:03:39,957 --> 02:03:39,957


21470
02:03:39,957 --> 02:03:41,783
to ordinances for second

21471
02:03:41,783 --> 02:03:49,362
reading, ordinance no.  2025-60.

21472
02:03:49,362 --> 02:04:00,962


21473
02:04:00,962 --> 02:04:06,191
providing directions to the cit

21474
02:04:06,191 --> 02:04:06,191
y

21475
02:04:06,191 --> 02:04:08,473
manager, providing severabilit

21476
02:04:08,473 --> 02:04:08,473
y

21477
02:04:08,473 --> 02:04:10,182
clause, providing a repealing

21478
02:04:10,182 --> 02:04:11,086
clause, and providing an

21479
02:04:11,086 --> 02:04:11,882
effective date.

21480
02:04:11,882 --> 02:04:13,846
>> mayor: thank you, madam

21481
02:04:13,846 --> 02:04:13,846
clerk.

21482
02:04:13,846 --> 02:04:17,783
commissioner willits.

21483
02:04:17,783 --> 02:04:21,191
>> no further questions from m

21484
02:04:21,191 --> 02:04:21,191
y

21485
02:04:21,191 --> 02:04:21,191
colleagues.

21486
02:04:21,191 --> 02:04:22,926
I move adoption on second

21487
02:04:22,926 --> 02:04:26,345
reading 2025-760.

21488
02:04:26,345 --> 02:04:27,305
>> aye.

21489
02:04:27,305 --> 02:04:27,774
>> second.

21490
02:04:27,774 --> 02:04:28,643
>> mayor: motion and a second.

21491
02:04:28,643 --> 02:04:28,643


21492
02:04:28,643 --> 02:04:29,668
any public comment?

21493
02:04:29,668 --> 02:04:31,913
>> no public comment.

21494
02:04:31,913 --> 02:04:33,298
>> mayor: no for the lights.

21495
02:04:33,298 --> 02:04:34,773
let's call the role and give

21496
02:04:34,773 --> 02:04:35,942
commissioner walker another shot

21497
02:04:35,942 --> 02:04:35,942


21498
02:04:35,942 --> 02:04:48,363
here.

21499
02:04:48,363 --> 02:04:51,431
>> mayor: that passes

21500
02:04:51,431 --> 02:04:51,431
unanimously.

21501
02:04:51,431 --> 02:04:53,480
madam clerk.

21502
02:04:53,480 --> 02:04:57,433
>> mr. Mayor, we are on to

21503
02:04:57,433 --> 02:05:00,348
ordinance 2025-873, ordinance o

21504
02:05:00,348 --> 02:05:00,348
f

21505
02:05:00,348 --> 02:05:01,503
the city of gainesville,

21506
02:05:01,503 --> 02:05:07,643
florida, annexing approximately

21507
02:05:07,643 --> 02:05:07,643


21508
02:05:07,643 --> 02:05:09,928
26.897 acres, privately-owned

21509
02:05:09,928 --> 02:05:11,377
property generally located sou

21510
02:05:11,377 --> 02:05:11,377
th

21511
02:05:11,377 --> 02:05:14,780
of state road 24, archer road,

21512
02:05:14,780 --> 02:05:14,780


21513
02:05:14,780 --> 02:05:18,852
west of sw 51st drive, north o

21514
02:05:18,852 --> 02:05:18,852
f

21515
02:05:18,852 --> 02:05:22,858
oaks, preserved, phase ii, eas

21516
02:05:22,858 --> 02:05:22,858
t

21517
02:05:22,858 --> 02:05:27,062
of county road sw 24c, as more

21518
02:05:27,062 --> 02:05:27,062


21519
02:05:27,062 --> 02:05:28,693
specifically describing in thi

21520
02:05:28,693 --> 02:05:28,693
s

21521
02:05:28,693 --> 02:05:30,901
ordinance as petitioned for by

21522
02:05:30,901 --> 02:05:30,901


21523
02:05:30,901 --> 02:05:32,967
the property owners pursuant to

21524
02:05:32,967 --> 02:05:32,967


21525
02:05:32,967 --> 02:05:34,992
chapter 171.

21526
02:05:34,992 --> 02:05:36,802
providing for persons engaged I

21527
02:05:36,802 --> 02:05:36,802
n

21528
02:05:36,802 --> 02:05:39,434
any occupation, business, trade

21529
02:05:39,434 --> 02:05:39,434
,

21530
02:05:39,434 --> 02:05:40,771
or profession, providing

21531
02:05:40,771 --> 02:05:42,204
directions to the city clerk,

21532
02:05:42,204 --> 02:05:43,942
providing severability clause,

21533
02:05:43,942 --> 02:05:43,942


21534
02:05:43,942 --> 02:05:45,181
providing a repealing clause,

21535
02:05:45,181 --> 02:05:46,471
and providing an immediate

21536
02:05:46,471 --> 02:05:47,878
effective date.

21537
02:05:47,878 --> 02:05:48,823
>> mayor: thank you, madam

21538
02:05:48,823 --> 02:05:48,823
clerk.

21539
02:05:48,823 --> 02:05:52,480
before we roll into this, I wan

21540
02:05:52,480 --> 02:05:52,480
t

21541
02:05:52,480 --> 02:05:57,313
to apologize for folks who wer

21542
02:05:57,313 --> 02:05:57,313
e

21543
02:05:57,313 --> 02:05:57,773
here for the entire afternoon

21544
02:05:57,773 --> 02:05:58,991
and had to wait for this.

21545
02:05:58,991 --> 02:06:00,391
we obviously have a lot going

21546
02:06:00,391 --> 02:06:01,930
on, and I appreciate your

21547
02:06:01,930 --> 02:06:01,930
patience.

21548
02:06:01,930 --> 02:06:04,662
so thank you.

21549
02:06:04,662 --> 02:06:08,500
>> thank you, good evening,

21550
02:06:08,500 --> 02:06:09,263
mayor, and commissioners.

21551
02:06:09,263 --> 02:06:12,712
the item before you is a request

21552
02:06:12,712 --> 02:06:12,712


21553
02:06:12,712 --> 02:06:15,505
for voluntary annexation

21554
02:06:15,505 --> 02:06:19,585
submitted by dogwood acquisiti

21555
02:06:19,585 --> 02:06:19,585
on

21556
02:06:19,585 --> 02:06:19,585
llc.

21557
02:06:19,585 --> 02:06:19,585


21558
02:06:19,585 --> 02:06:26,693
>> so this annexation request is

21559
02:06:26,693 --> 02:06:26,693


21560
02:06:26,693 --> 02:06:29,389
for a total of eight contiguou

21561
02:06:29,389 --> 02:06:29,389
s

21562
02:06:29,389 --> 02:06:36,494
tax parcels totaling

21563
02:06:36,494 --> 02:06:38,942
26.25 acres, and due sw of

21564
02:06:38,942 --> 02:06:42,535
butler plaza and I-75.

21565
02:06:42,535 --> 02:06:46,565
currently under alachua county,

21566
02:06:46,565 --> 02:06:46,565


21567
02:06:46,565 --> 02:06:48,674
zoned single family residential

21568
02:06:48,674 --> 02:06:48,674
,

21569
02:06:48,674 --> 02:06:51,037
and residential estate re1.

21570
02:06:51,037 --> 02:06:55,219
staff prepared an urban services

21571
02:06:55,219 --> 02:06:55,219


21572
02:06:55,219 --> 02:06:57,315
report as attached to the

21573
02:06:57,315 --> 02:06:59,519
backup, which detail the city

21574
02:06:59,519 --> 02:07:01,791
services provided following

21575
02:07:01,791 --> 02:07:03,456
annexation, so the parcels wou

21576
02:07:03,456 --> 02:07:03,456
ld

21577
02:07:03,456 --> 02:07:05,186
fall under city commission

21578
02:07:05,186 --> 02:07:06,657
district 3, with the closest

21579
02:07:06,657 --> 02:07:09,142
fire station being station 9,

21580
02:07:09,142 --> 02:07:10,225
and would fall under the

21581
02:07:10,225 --> 02:07:12,364
gainesville police department

21582
02:07:12,364 --> 02:07:12,859
zone papa.

21583
02:07:12,859 --> 02:07:15,927
rts route 75 would service the

21584
02:07:15,927 --> 02:07:15,927
se

21585
02:07:15,927 --> 02:07:18,774
parcels and gru would provide

21586
02:07:18,774 --> 02:07:21,301
utility services like electric,

21587
02:07:21,301 --> 02:07:21,301


21588
02:07:21,301 --> 02:07:22,836
wastewater and gas, and

21589
02:07:22,836 --> 02:07:26,646
additionally, public works wou

21590
02:07:26,646 --> 02:07:26,646
ld

21591
02:07:26,646 --> 02:07:28,489
provide solid waste services, a

21592
02:07:28,489 --> 02:07:28,489
s

21593
02:07:28,489 --> 02:07:32,152
well as basic maintenance and

21594
02:07:32,152 --> 02:07:33,988
repair any building streets.

21595
02:07:33,988 --> 02:07:37,061
however, there are no current

21596
02:07:37,061 --> 02:07:38,543
street city streets that would

21597
02:07:38,543 --> 02:07:38,543


21598
02:07:38,543 --> 02:07:40,328
be involved in this annexation

21599
02:07:40,328 --> 02:07:40,328


21600
02:07:40,328 --> 02:07:41,866
upon approval.

21601
02:07:41,866 --> 02:07:43,192
the details of all of the

21602
02:07:43,192 --> 02:07:44,382
services that are available in

21603
02:07:44,382 --> 02:07:44,382


21604
02:07:44,382 --> 02:07:46,900
that urban services report wer

21605
02:07:46,900 --> 02:07:46,900
e

21606
02:07:46,900 --> 02:07:48,330
provided or were created with

21607
02:07:48,330 --> 02:07:50,130
feedback that were provided by

21608
02:07:50,130 --> 02:07:50,130


21609
02:07:50,130 --> 02:07:51,839
each relevant department as we

21610
02:07:51,839 --> 02:07:51,839
ll

21611
02:07:51,839 --> 02:07:53,239
as some additional maps that

21612
02:07:53,239 --> 02:07:55,211
highlight the locations of

21613
02:07:55,211 --> 02:07:56,746
utilities and emergency response

21614
02:07:56,746 --> 02:07:56,746


21615
02:07:56,746 --> 02:07:56,746
facilities.

21616
02:07:56,746 --> 02:08:04,261
according to florida stawlt

21617
02:08:04,261 --> 02:08:07,787
chapter 171 -- statute chapter

21618
02:08:07,787 --> 02:08:07,787


21619
02:08:07,787 --> 02:08:09,690
171, required to meet certain

21620
02:08:09,690 --> 02:08:09,690
criteria.

21621
02:08:09,690 --> 02:08:12,400
so the parcels must be

21622
02:08:12,400 --> 02:08:14,133
contiguous with existing city

21623
02:08:14,133 --> 02:08:14,133
boundaries.

21624
02:08:14,133 --> 02:08:17,200
they must be reasonably compact

21625
02:08:17,200 --> 02:08:17,200


21626
02:08:17,200 --> 02:08:18,761
and close together, and must n

21627
02:08:18,761 --> 02:08:18,761
ot

21628
02:08:18,761 --> 02:08:21,031
create any enclaves or a

21629
02:08:21,031 --> 02:08:22,937
non-city parcel would be bound

21630
02:08:22,937 --> 02:08:22,937


21631
02:08:22,937 --> 02:08:25,534
on all sides by city boundarie

21632
02:08:25,534 --> 02:08:25,534
s.

21633
02:08:25,534 --> 02:08:27,508
illustrated by this map,

21634
02:08:27,508 --> 02:08:31,076
provided by the applicant, the

21635
02:08:31,076 --> 02:08:31,076
se

21636
02:08:31,076 --> 02:08:32,482
criteria are met allowing the

21637
02:08:32,482 --> 02:08:34,475
city to move forward toward

21638
02:08:34,475 --> 02:08:36,448
adopting the ordinance.

21639
02:08:36,448 --> 02:08:37,977
with that, staff does recommend

21640
02:08:37,977 --> 02:08:37,977


21641
02:08:37,977 --> 02:08:41,391
approval of agenda item

21642
02:08:41,391 --> 02:08:41,391
2025-873.

21643
02:08:41,391 --> 02:08:44,685
if you approve today, we would

21644
02:08:44,685 --> 02:08:44,685


21645
02:08:44,685 --> 02:08:46,094
aim to have the second reading

21646
02:08:46,094 --> 02:08:46,094


21647
02:08:46,094 --> 02:08:48,188
before you by april 16th, which

21648
02:08:48,188 --> 02:08:48,188


21649
02:08:48,188 --> 02:08:49,827
would be the effective date of

21650
02:08:49,827 --> 02:08:49,827


21651
02:08:49,827 --> 02:08:50,791
the annexation.

21652
02:08:50,791 --> 02:08:52,629
I am near you have further

21653
02:08:52,629 --> 02:08:52,629
questions.

21654
02:08:52,629 --> 02:08:54,612
the applicant is also here.

21655
02:08:54,612 --> 02:08:55,795
>> mayor: very good.

21656
02:08:55,795 --> 02:08:58,006
would the applicant like to mak

21657
02:08:58,006 --> 02:08:58,006
e

21658
02:08:58,006 --> 02:08:58,483
any presentation?

21659
02:08:58,483 --> 02:08:58,483


21660
02:08:58,483 --> 02:09:02,044
>> hi, good evening, mayor,

21661
02:09:02,044 --> 02:09:02,044
commission.

21662
02:09:02,044 --> 02:09:03,373
I don't have much to add.

21663
02:09:03,373 --> 02:09:05,548
staff did a great job

21664
02:09:05,548 --> 02:09:06,423
illustrating everything.

21665
02:09:06,423 --> 02:09:10,014
I wanted to say thank you for

21666
02:09:10,014 --> 02:09:10,906
your time.

21667
02:09:10,906 --> 02:09:13,508
I'm here with -- to answer any

21668
02:09:13,508 --> 02:09:13,508


21669
02:09:13,508 --> 02:09:14,385
questions you might have.

21670
02:09:14,385 --> 02:09:15,329
>> mayor: thank you so much.

21671
02:09:15,329 --> 02:09:16,261
I appreciate it.

21672
02:09:16,261 --> 02:09:18,495
commissioners, anything?

21673
02:09:18,495 --> 02:09:23,447
commissioner willits?

21674
02:09:23,447 --> 02:09:25,991
>> a question for staff about I

21675
02:09:25,991 --> 02:09:27,265
f -- when we bring in, this is

21676
02:09:27,265 --> 02:09:27,265


21677
02:09:27,265 --> 02:09:30,467
one of the bigger chunks, I

21678
02:09:30,467 --> 02:09:31,475
think, it's one of the bigger

21679
02:09:31,475 --> 02:09:33,385
chunks we've done recently, tha

21680
02:09:33,385 --> 02:09:33,385
t

21681
02:09:33,385 --> 02:09:35,067
does not have an existing road

21682
02:09:35,067 --> 02:09:35,067


21683
02:09:35,067 --> 02:09:36,608
network like through it

21684
02:09:36,608 --> 02:09:38,841
necessarily, I don't think.

21685
02:09:38,841 --> 02:09:41,911
what's the difference between -

21686
02:09:41,911 --> 02:09:41,911
-

21687
02:09:41,911 --> 02:09:43,613
if this was developed in the

21688
02:09:43,613 --> 02:09:45,017
future but still under the

21689
02:09:45,017 --> 02:09:47,169
county, would they -- is there

21690
02:09:47,169 --> 02:09:47,169


21691
02:09:47,169 --> 02:09:48,218
an agreement with the county

21692
02:09:48,218 --> 02:09:50,058
that they would have to design

21693
02:09:50,058 --> 02:09:50,058


21694
02:09:50,058 --> 02:09:54,529
the roads for the existing roa

21695
02:09:54,529 --> 02:09:54,529
d

21696
02:09:54,529 --> 02:09:56,855
network, any connections to the

21697
02:09:56,855 --> 02:09:56,855


21698
02:09:56,855 --> 02:09:58,397
part that's already in the cit

21699
02:09:58,397 --> 02:09:58,397
y

21700
02:09:58,397 --> 02:09:59,291
that's being developed?

21701
02:09:59,291 --> 02:10:02,429
I cannot remember if that oak

21702
02:10:02,429 --> 02:10:04,834
whatever neighborhood has a stu

21703
02:10:04,834 --> 02:10:04,834
b

21704
02:10:04,834 --> 02:10:07,601
anticipating out there, but if

21705
02:10:07,601 --> 02:10:07,601


21706
02:10:07,601 --> 02:10:10,213
it remains in the county do the

21707
02:10:10,213 --> 02:10:10,213
y

21708
02:10:10,213 --> 02:10:11,769
have to connect that stub or

21709
02:10:11,769 --> 02:10:14,047
only by coming into the city a

21710
02:10:14,047 --> 02:10:14,047
nd

21711
02:10:14,047 --> 02:10:16,121
then they would have the connect

21712
02:10:16,121 --> 02:10:16,121


21713
02:10:16,121 --> 02:10:17,747
a stub according to our comp

21714
02:10:17,747 --> 02:10:17,747
plan?

21715
02:10:17,747 --> 02:10:20,391
>> so I don't think I can speak

21716
02:10:20,391 --> 02:10:20,391


21717
02:10:20,391 --> 02:10:22,549
to if there are any county

21718
02:10:22,549 --> 02:10:25,189
requirements that they build o

21719
02:10:25,189 --> 02:10:25,189
ut

21720
02:10:25,189 --> 02:10:27,625
those roads prior to annexation.

21721
02:10:27,625 --> 02:10:27,625


21722
02:10:27,625 --> 02:10:29,005
we --

21723
02:10:29,005 --> 02:10:29,287
>> no prior.

21724
02:10:29,287 --> 02:10:36,128
if it stays in the county and w

21725
02:10:36,128 --> 02:10:36,128
e

21726
02:10:36,128 --> 02:10:38,871
don't approve annexation, and

21727
02:10:38,871 --> 02:10:39,974
someone wants to build and hav

21728
02:10:39,974 --> 02:10:39,974
e

21729
02:10:39,974 --> 02:10:41,071
a small street networks.

21730
02:10:41,071 --> 02:10:43,277
because it's in the county, is

21731
02:10:43,277 --> 02:10:43,277


21732
02:10:43,277 --> 02:10:44,881
there any agreement with the

21733
02:10:44,881 --> 02:10:46,009
county -- will you please

21734
02:10:46,009 --> 02:10:47,313
connect to, across the border

21735
02:10:47,313 --> 02:10:50,280
line, if wehave a stub on the

21736
02:10:50,280 --> 02:10:52,247
city side, will these connect?

21737
02:10:52,247 --> 02:10:52,247


21738
02:10:52,247 --> 02:10:54,648
have more of -- a comp plan

21739
02:10:54,648 --> 02:10:56,814
envisions a grid with a lot of

21740
02:10:56,814 --> 02:10:56,814


21741
02:10:56,814 --> 02:10:56,814
connectivity?

21742
02:10:56,814 --> 02:10:59,704
>> after annexation they would

21743
02:10:59,704 --> 02:10:59,704


21744
02:10:59,704 --> 02:11:00,971
be required to build out that

21745
02:11:00,971 --> 02:11:03,160
road network to meet the lot

21746
02:11:03,160 --> 02:11:05,416
requirements for development I

21747
02:11:05,416 --> 02:11:05,416
n

21748
02:11:05,416 --> 02:11:07,000
the city of gainesville.

21749
02:11:07,000 --> 02:11:09,738
if you're asking whether count

21750
02:11:09,738 --> 02:11:09,738
y

21751
02:11:09,738 --> 02:11:12,740
parcels are required to connect

21752
02:11:12,740 --> 02:11:12,740


21753
02:11:12,740 --> 02:11:13,259
to city roads.

21754
02:11:13,259 --> 02:11:15,244
that I'm not entirely sure of.

21755
02:11:15,244 --> 02:11:15,244


21756
02:11:15,244 --> 02:11:19,376
>> mr. Singleton.

21757
02:11:19,376 --> 02:11:20,679
>> I do want to answer this.

21758
02:11:20,679 --> 02:11:23,484
so I can fully understand.

21759
02:11:23,484 --> 02:11:28,614
>> chief operating officer, I

21760
02:11:28,614 --> 02:11:30,682
used to be employed by the

21761
02:11:30,682 --> 02:11:31,422
county --

21762
02:11:31,422 --> 02:11:32,778
>> hold that against you.

21763
02:11:32,778 --> 02:11:34,588
>> review these type of

21764
02:11:34,588 --> 02:11:36,732
applications, networks, county

21765
02:11:36,732 --> 02:11:36,732


21766
02:11:36,732 --> 02:11:38,759
has a very similar land

21767
02:11:38,759 --> 02:11:40,302
development regulations and com

21768
02:11:40,302 --> 02:11:40,302
p

21769
02:11:40,302 --> 02:11:43,399
plan reg regulations similar to

21770
02:11:43,399 --> 02:11:43,566
the

21771
02:11:43,566 --> 02:11:43,566
city.

21772
02:11:43,566 --> 02:11:46,372
they would connect to the

21773
02:11:46,372 --> 02:11:48,373
existing s stubs.

21774
02:11:48,373 --> 02:11:51,541
looking at the plat, I don't s

21775
02:11:51,541 --> 02:11:51,541
ee

21776
02:11:51,541 --> 02:11:53,416
that stub to these parcels, but

21777
02:11:53,416 --> 02:11:53,416


21778
02:11:53,416 --> 02:11:57,250
we do collaboraten and sure we

21779
02:11:57,250 --> 02:11:57,250


21780
02:11:57,250 --> 02:11:58,684
have -- and ensure we have

21781
02:11:58,684 --> 02:11:59,981
interconnected roadway network.

21782
02:11:59,981 --> 02:11:59,981


21783
02:11:59,981 --> 02:12:01,566
>> I bring it up partially as

21784
02:12:01,566 --> 02:12:02,923
part of the conversation on the

21785
02:12:02,923 --> 02:12:02,923


21786
02:12:02,923 --> 02:12:04,458
outside edge of the city when w

21787
02:12:04,458 --> 02:12:04,458
e

21788
02:12:04,458 --> 02:12:06,252
potentially annex, particularl

21789
02:12:06,252 --> 02:12:06,252
y

21790
02:12:06,252 --> 02:12:08,726
right next to a new development

21791
02:12:08,726 --> 02:12:08,726
,

21792
02:12:08,726 --> 02:12:12,031
how they interact, the current,

21793
02:12:12,031 --> 02:12:12,031


21794
02:12:12,031 --> 02:12:13,797
new development, and potential

21795
02:12:13,797 --> 02:12:13,797
ly

21796
02:12:13,797 --> 02:12:15,966
new annexation.

21797
02:12:15,966 --> 02:12:18,810
mr. Singleton, I appreciate

21798
02:12:18,810 --> 02:12:18,810
that.

21799
02:12:18,810 --> 02:12:23,406
I've had some skepticism in the

21800
02:12:23,406 --> 02:12:23,406


21801
02:12:23,406 --> 02:12:26,015
southwest largely because of

21802
02:12:26,015 --> 02:12:27,341
annexations and changing of

21803
02:12:27,341 --> 02:12:28,448
densities because of the amoun

21804
02:12:28,448 --> 02:12:28,448
t

21805
02:12:28,448 --> 02:12:31,058
of park services in southwest.

21806
02:12:31,058 --> 02:12:31,058


21807
02:12:31,058 --> 02:12:33,453
I would say we almost bought, w

21808
02:12:33,453 --> 02:12:33,453
e

21809
02:12:33,453 --> 02:12:34,877
haven't -- I don't know if we

21810
02:12:34,877 --> 02:12:37,189
signed the contract yet, rough

21811
02:12:37,189 --> 02:12:37,189
ly

21812
02:12:37,189 --> 02:12:38,720
14 acres in southwest

21813
02:12:38,720 --> 02:12:40,457
gainesville for future park and

21814
02:12:40,457 --> 02:12:40,457


21815
02:12:40,457 --> 02:12:41,096
reservation land.

21816
02:12:41,096 --> 02:12:42,471
that makes me a little more

21817
02:12:42,471 --> 02:12:43,503
confident in the future we'll b

21818
02:12:43,503 --> 02:12:43,503
e

21819
02:12:43,503 --> 02:12:47,131
able to ride that, but that lan

21820
02:12:47,131 --> 02:12:47,131
d

21821
02:12:47,131 --> 02:12:51,011
is -- of 75, and past 75 there's

21822
02:12:51,011 --> 02:12:51,011


21823
02:12:51,011 --> 02:12:52,431
continued conversation.

21824
02:12:52,431 --> 02:12:53,434
firefighter infrastructure's

21825
02:12:53,434 --> 02:12:55,243
gointo go in, great, but in

21826
02:12:55,243 --> 02:12:56,649
the end the city or the county

21827
02:12:56,649 --> 02:12:56,649


21828
02:12:56,649 --> 02:12:59,279
or us combined we need to build

21829
02:12:59,279 --> 02:12:59,279


21830
02:12:59,279 --> 02:13:02,105
another -- we need to be looki

21831
02:13:02,105 --> 02:13:02,105
ng

21832
02:13:02,105 --> 02:13:05,511
at longer, 10-15-year plan

21833
02:13:05,511 --> 02:13:08,483
larger park, south that is

21834
02:13:08,483 --> 02:13:10,564
serves that chunk -- in the end

21835
02:13:10,564 --> 02:13:10,564


21836
02:13:10,564 --> 02:13:14,158
it's going to serve county and

21837
02:13:14,158 --> 02:13:14,158


21838
02:13:14,158 --> 02:13:14,158
city.

21839
02:13:14,158 --> 02:13:16,363
that's another conversation wit

21840
02:13:16,363 --> 02:13:16,363
h

21841
02:13:16,363 --> 02:13:19,595
the county:  so with that, I'v

21842
02:13:19,595 --> 02:13:19,595
e

21843
02:13:19,595 --> 02:13:21,263
been skeptical, but I'm very

21844
02:13:21,263 --> 02:13:21,263
happy.

21845
02:13:21,263 --> 02:13:22,865
I will be supporting this

21846
02:13:22,865 --> 02:13:24,299
voluntary annexation.

21847
02:13:24,299 --> 02:13:25,498
thank you, mr. Mayor.

21848
02:13:25,498 --> 02:13:27,267
>> mayor: thank you,

21849
02:13:27,267 --> 02:13:30,117
mr. Willits.

21850
02:13:30,117 --> 02:13:31,979
>> if there are no further

21851
02:13:31,979 --> 02:13:34,147
questions, I move ordinance

21852
02:13:34,147 --> 02:13:34,147
2025-873.

21853
02:13:34,147 --> 02:13:35,589
>> second.

21854
02:13:35,589 --> 02:13:36,573
>> mayor: we have a motion and

21855
02:13:36,573 --> 02:13:36,573


21856
02:13:36,573 --> 02:13:36,819
a second.

21857
02:13:36,819 --> 02:13:37,961
any public comment?

21858
02:13:37,961 --> 02:13:40,311
>> there's no public comment.

21859
02:13:40,311 --> 02:13:42,120
>> mayor: okay!

21860
02:13:42,120 --> 02:13:45,556
>> I'm here.

21861
02:13:45,556 --> 02:13:47,922
our firm worked on the oaks

21862
02:13:47,922 --> 02:13:49,027
preserve project with the city,

21863
02:13:49,027 --> 02:13:49,027


21864
02:13:49,027 --> 02:13:52,667
and I can tell you there is a

21865
02:13:52,667 --> 02:13:53,559
stub out to this property.

21866
02:13:53,559 --> 02:13:54,929
I had to look at it too.

21867
02:13:54,929 --> 02:13:56,599
it's in a future phase, but,

21868
02:13:56,599 --> 02:13:58,335
yeah, just kind of the very

21869
02:13:58,335 --> 02:14:01,937
bottom corner makes a 90-degree

21870
02:14:01,937 --> 02:14:01,937


21871
02:14:01,937 --> 02:14:01,937
turn.

21872
02:14:01,937 --> 02:14:04,405
if this property's built in the

21873
02:14:04,405 --> 02:14:04,405


21874
02:14:04,405 --> 02:14:06,144
city, lit connect to that

21875
02:14:06,144 --> 02:14:06,144
neighborhood.

21876
02:14:06,144 --> 02:14:07,281
>> mayor: thank you.

21877
02:14:07,281 --> 02:14:10,293
I remembered that discussion.

21878
02:14:10,293 --> 02:14:11,243
that was the whole point of

21879
02:14:11,243 --> 02:14:16,203
discussion about that issue was

21880
02:14:16,203 --> 02:14:16,203


21881
02:14:16,203 --> 02:14:16,975
whether or not people came to

21882
02:14:16,975 --> 02:14:19,145
talk to us about whether or not

21883
02:14:19,145 --> 02:14:19,145


21884
02:14:19,145 --> 02:14:19,999
there was going to be

21885
02:14:19,999 --> 02:14:21,001
[indistinct] there.

21886
02:14:21,001 --> 02:14:21,954
I remember that.

21887
02:14:21,954 --> 02:14:22,525
all right!

21888
02:14:22,525 --> 02:14:24,591
madam clerk, let's call the

21889
02:14:24,591 --> 02:14:24,591
roll.

21890
02:14:24,591 --> 02:14:24,591


21891
02:14:24,591 --> 02:14:28,785
[roll call]

21892
02:14:28,785 --> 02:14:28,785


21893
02:14:28,785 --> 02:14:37,472
>> mayor: all right, that

21894
02:14:37,472 --> 02:14:39,475
passes unanimously.

21895
02:14:39,475 --> 02:14:39,475
yes.

21896
02:14:39,475 --> 02:14:41,503
madam clerk.

21897
02:14:41,503 --> 02:14:49,521
commissioner willits.

21898
02:14:49,521 --> 02:14:51,626
>> I'm not going to go into the

21899
02:14:51,626 --> 02:14:51,626


21900
02:14:51,626 --> 02:14:52,928
full because it's been a long

21901
02:14:52,928 --> 02:14:52,928
day.

21902
02:14:52,928 --> 02:14:56,291
I wanted to poke at the

21903
02:14:56,291 --> 02:14:58,727
on-street neighborhood parking

21904
02:14:58,727 --> 02:14:58,727


21905
02:14:58,727 --> 02:15:00,024
permit and some of the zonings

21906
02:15:00,024 --> 02:15:00,024


21907
02:15:00,024 --> 02:15:00,659
around campus.

21908
02:15:00,659 --> 02:15:04,633
we currently charge people hav

21909
02:15:04,633 --> 02:15:04,633
e

21910
02:15:04,633 --> 02:15:06,836
the privilege of owning a home

21911
02:15:06,836 --> 02:15:06,836


21912
02:15:06,836 --> 02:15:08,131
far less than we do for people

21913
02:15:08,131 --> 02:15:08,131


21914
02:15:08,131 --> 02:15:10,437
paying rent.

21915
02:15:10,437 --> 02:15:14,811
it looks like we charge $119.25

21916
02:15:14,811 --> 02:15:14,811


21917
02:15:14,811 --> 02:15:16,307
to homesteaders, people who hav

21918
02:15:16,307 --> 02:15:16,307
e

21919
02:15:16,307 --> 02:15:18,041
a homesteaded property, verses

21920
02:15:18,041 --> 02:15:18,041


21921
02:15:18,041 --> 02:15:20,849
looks like $238 for

21922
02:15:20,849 --> 02:15:20,849
non-homestead.

21923
02:15:20,849 --> 02:15:23,306
I know there's not a lot of

21924
02:15:23,306 --> 02:15:25,145
properties that necessarily

21925
02:15:25,145 --> 02:15:25,621
applies to.

21926
02:15:25,621 --> 02:15:27,360
some of the larger complexes y

21927
02:15:27,360 --> 02:15:27,360
ou

21928
02:15:27,360 --> 02:15:29,025
may think of around campus are

21929
02:15:29,025 --> 02:15:29,025


21930
02:15:29,025 --> 02:15:32,623
not eligible for

21931
02:15:32,623 --> 02:15:34,487
neighborhood-zoned parking

21932
02:15:34,487 --> 02:15:36,900
because those were developed a

21933
02:15:36,900 --> 02:15:36,900
s

21934
02:15:36,900 --> 02:15:39,901
a denser parking on site and/o

21935
02:15:39,901 --> 02:15:39,901
r

21936
02:15:39,901 --> 02:15:42,036
it is envisioned not every

21937
02:15:42,036 --> 02:15:43,763
person brings their car for some

21938
02:15:43,763 --> 02:15:43,763


21939
02:15:43,763 --> 02:15:45,203
of the on-street parking on

21940
02:15:45,203 --> 02:15:47,646
campus there's always going to

21941
02:15:47,646 --> 02:15:47,646


21942
02:15:47,646 --> 02:15:47,857
be tension.

21943
02:15:47,857 --> 02:15:49,608
the fact we charge renters mor

21944
02:15:49,608 --> 02:15:49,608
e

21945
02:15:49,608 --> 02:15:51,118
than people who own their home.

21946
02:15:51,118 --> 02:15:51,118


21947
02:15:51,118 --> 02:15:53,667
I'm sure there's going to be a

21948
02:15:53,667 --> 02:15:53,667


21949
02:15:53,667 --> 02:15:55,550
lot of arguments why that is t

21950
02:15:55,550 --> 02:15:55,550
o

21951
02:15:55,550 --> 02:15:57,554
protect homeowners, giving the

21952
02:15:57,554 --> 02:15:57,554
m

21953
02:15:57,554 --> 02:15:59,184
a space, but a person who rents

21954
02:15:59,184 --> 02:15:59,184


21955
02:15:59,184 --> 02:16:02,212
that close to there may also --

21956
02:16:02,212 --> 02:16:02,212


21957
02:16:02,212 --> 02:16:04,027
I feel like they should probably

21958
02:16:04,027 --> 02:16:04,027


21959
02:16:04,027 --> 02:16:06,089
be more similar, that they

21960
02:16:06,089 --> 02:16:09,331
should pay the same amount to

21961
02:16:09,331 --> 02:16:10,764
park on the street whether the

21962
02:16:10,764 --> 02:16:10,764
y

21963
02:16:10,764 --> 02:16:14,401
own the home there or whether

21964
02:16:14,401 --> 02:16:15,082
they are renting.

21965
02:16:15,082 --> 02:16:16,409
so that's something I'm going t

21966
02:16:16,409 --> 02:16:16,409
o

21967
02:16:16,409 --> 02:16:18,803
bring in forward in the future

21968
02:16:18,803 --> 02:16:19,012
as

21969
02:16:19,012 --> 02:16:20,214
fairness to the renters in our

21970
02:16:20,214 --> 02:16:20,214


21971
02:16:20,214 --> 02:16:20,214
community.

21972
02:16:20,214 --> 02:16:22,340
it's only in a couple

21973
02:16:22,340 --> 02:16:23,376
neighborhoods that it applies.

21974
02:16:23,376 --> 02:16:23,376


21975
02:16:23,376 --> 02:16:25,091
I'm going to be asking staff I

21976
02:16:25,091 --> 02:16:25,091
f

21977
02:16:25,091 --> 02:16:27,327
I can get a -- peer into the

21978
02:16:27,327 --> 02:16:29,379
data on the number of people w

21979
02:16:29,379 --> 02:16:29,379
ho

21980
02:16:29,379 --> 02:16:31,348
have those permits, but at lea

21981
02:16:31,348 --> 02:16:31,348
st

21982
02:16:31,348 --> 02:16:32,614
digging to understand the cost

21983
02:16:32,614 --> 02:16:32,614


21984
02:16:32,614 --> 02:16:33,458
of the permits.

21985
02:16:33,458 --> 02:16:38,690
that's something I'll bring up

21986
02:16:38,690 --> 02:16:38,690


21987
02:16:38,690 --> 02:16:38,690
later.

21988
02:16:38,690 --> 02:16:39,900
>> mayor: thank you.

21989
02:16:39,900 --> 02:16:42,064
commissioner ingle.

21990
02:16:42,064 --> 02:16:47,392
>> so there's a zoning issue I

21991
02:16:47,392 --> 02:16:47,392


21992
02:16:47,392 --> 02:16:51,142
wanted to bring up, actually

21993
02:16:51,142 --> 02:16:51,142


21994
02:16:51,142 --> 02:16:53,974
some drive-through businesses

21995
02:16:53,974 --> 02:16:56,950
have caused some real traffic

21996
02:16:56,950 --> 02:16:57,842
snarls in town.

21997
02:16:57,842 --> 02:17:00,411
starbucks on 13th street, reall

21998
02:17:00,411 --> 02:17:00,411
y

21999
02:17:00,411 --> 02:17:02,550
kind of backs some stuff up, a

22000
02:17:02,550 --> 02:17:02,550
nd

22001
02:17:02,550 --> 02:17:04,590
I know it's the new coffee sho

22002
02:17:04,590 --> 02:17:04,590
p

22003
02:17:04,590 --> 02:17:09,620
down on 16th, I forget the nam

22004
02:17:09,620 --> 02:17:09,620
e

22005
02:17:09,620 --> 02:17:13,302
of it, 7 brew, also caused a l

22006
02:17:13,302 --> 02:17:13,302
ot

22007
02:17:13,302 --> 02:17:14,324
of snarls around there and

22008
02:17:14,324 --> 02:17:16,000
people trying to get in a

22009
02:17:16,000 --> 02:17:17,662
drive-through line, backing all

22010
02:17:17,662 --> 02:17:17,662


22011
02:17:17,662 --> 02:17:19,162
the way out into traffic.

22012
02:17:19,162 --> 02:17:21,686
I would really like to see wha

22013
02:17:21,686 --> 02:17:21,686
t

22014
02:17:21,686 --> 02:17:23,540
options we've got on tweaking

22015
02:17:23,540 --> 02:17:29,776
our zoning to either prohibit

22016
02:17:29,776 --> 02:17:31,844
drive-through things on major

22017
02:17:31,844 --> 02:17:33,580
thoroughfares like that or wha

22018
02:17:33,580 --> 02:17:33,580
t

22019
02:17:33,580 --> 02:17:35,779
options we've got to kind of

22020
02:17:35,779 --> 02:17:37,088
regulate some of that to make

22021
02:17:37,088 --> 02:17:39,323
those more compatible to those

22022
02:17:39,323 --> 02:17:39,323


22023
02:17:39,323 --> 02:17:39,323
areas.

22024
02:17:39,323 --> 02:17:43,885
just plopping them down I've

22025
02:17:43,885 --> 02:17:45,492
seen them cause real traffic

22026
02:17:45,492 --> 02:17:47,422
problems with just a line of

22027
02:17:47,422 --> 02:17:48,752
people out in the street waiti

22028
02:17:48,752 --> 02:17:48,752
ng

22029
02:17:48,752 --> 02:17:49,902
to get into a business.

22030
02:17:49,902 --> 02:17:51,664
and I think there's got to be

22031
02:17:51,664 --> 02:17:53,416
some way we can avoid doing tha

22032
02:17:53,416 --> 02:17:53,416
t

22033
02:17:53,416 --> 02:17:55,076
in the future.

22034
02:17:55,076 --> 02:17:56,772
so talked a little bit to the

22035
02:17:56,772 --> 02:17:58,306
city manager, but I'd really

22036
02:17:58,306 --> 02:17:59,608
like to have some options

22037
02:17:59,608 --> 02:18:02,172
brought back on what it is we

22038
02:18:02,172 --> 02:18:04,044
can do in those areas.

22039
02:18:04,044 --> 02:18:06,766
>> it looks like the director I

22040
02:18:06,766 --> 02:18:06,766
s

22041
02:18:06,766 --> 02:18:08,642
chomping at the bit to come talk

22042
02:18:08,642 --> 02:18:08,642


22043
02:18:08,642 --> 02:18:08,952
about this.

22044
02:18:08,952 --> 02:18:08,952
[laughter]

22045
02:18:08,952 --> 02:18:10,912
>> thank you, mr. Mayor,

22046
02:18:10,912 --> 02:18:12,396
commissioners, halfway there.

22047
02:18:12,396 --> 02:18:14,622
I realized I had a little bit o

22048
02:18:14,622 --> 02:18:14,622
f

22049
02:18:14,622 --> 02:18:15,828
regret that maybe I should

22050
02:18:15,828 --> 02:18:19,092
probably not start walking, but

22051
02:18:19,092 --> 02:18:19,092


22052
02:18:19,092 --> 02:18:21,720
anyhow, certainly any time it's

22053
02:18:21,720 --> 02:18:21,720


22054
02:18:21,720 --> 02:18:23,934
a use in the way that a use is

22055
02:18:23,934 --> 02:18:23,934


22056
02:18:23,934 --> 02:18:24,938
really playing out is something

22057
02:18:24,938 --> 02:18:24,938


22058
02:18:24,938 --> 02:18:27,206
that we can look at through

22059
02:18:27,206 --> 02:18:27,800
zoning code.

22060
02:18:27,800 --> 02:18:29,610
what we had done to date for

22061
02:18:29,610 --> 02:18:30,670
those uses.

22062
02:18:30,670 --> 02:18:32,815
the starbucks on 13th has

22063
02:18:32,815 --> 02:18:37,280
been -- has had issues for qui

22064
02:18:37,280 --> 02:18:37,280
te

22065
02:18:37,280 --> 02:18:37,848
some time.

22066
02:18:37,848 --> 02:18:39,780
the 7 brew you're speaking of,

22067
02:18:39,780 --> 02:18:39,780


22068
02:18:39,780 --> 02:18:41,116
but we've had them in a couple

22069
02:18:41,116 --> 02:18:41,116


22070
02:18:41,116 --> 02:18:43,086
other locations that are drive

22071
02:18:43,086 --> 02:18:43,086


22072
02:18:43,086 --> 02:18:43,086
throughs.

22073
02:18:43,086 --> 02:18:51,194
the zaxby's, popeyes when they

22074
02:18:51,194 --> 02:18:51,194


22075
02:18:51,194 --> 02:18:52,392
had their fried chicken

22076
02:18:52,392 --> 02:18:54,660
sandwich, that was an issue, a

22077
02:18:54,660 --> 02:18:54,660
s

22078
02:18:54,660 --> 02:18:55,862
you might understand, but what

22079
02:18:55,862 --> 02:18:55,862


22080
02:18:55,862 --> 02:18:57,192
we've done for the code

22081
02:18:57,192 --> 02:18:59,402
enforcement side of sit gone o

22082
02:18:59,402 --> 02:18:59,402
ut

22083
02:18:59,402 --> 02:19:00,566
and worked directly with the

22084
02:19:00,566 --> 02:19:01,964
businesses to adjust their

22085
02:19:01,964 --> 02:19:03,206
business model to make sure the

22086
02:19:03,206 --> 02:19:03,206
y

22087
02:19:03,206 --> 02:19:06,802
can or if they could actually

22088
02:19:06,802 --> 02:19:07,902
fit these uses on their

22089
02:19:07,902 --> 02:19:09,410
property, which is required by

22090
02:19:09,410 --> 02:19:09,410


22091
02:19:09,410 --> 02:19:09,410
code.

22092
02:19:09,410 --> 02:19:10,750
we've worked with them to be

22093
02:19:10,750 --> 02:19:11,238
able to do that.

22094
02:19:11,238 --> 02:19:13,046
some of you may have seen at t

22095
02:19:13,046 --> 02:19:13,046
he

22096
02:19:13,046 --> 02:19:14,822
starbucks or the chick-fil-a

22097
02:19:14,822 --> 02:19:16,286
where some of the staff started

22098
02:19:16,286 --> 02:19:16,286


22099
02:19:16,286 --> 02:19:17,988
getting tablets and walk to you

22100
02:19:17,988 --> 02:19:17,988
r

22101
02:19:17,988 --> 02:19:18,650
car and order.

22102
02:19:18,650 --> 02:19:22,024
and they direct you through tha

22103
02:19:22,024 --> 02:19:22,024
t

22104
02:19:22,024 --> 02:19:22,024
area.

22105
02:19:22,024 --> 02:19:24,258
that allowed them to both have

22106
02:19:24,258 --> 02:19:24,258


22107
02:19:24,258 --> 02:19:26,538
more users on site, but process

22108
02:19:26,538 --> 02:19:26,538


22109
02:19:26,538 --> 02:19:28,006
them quickly and really we

22110
02:19:28,006 --> 02:19:29,400
helped them with their own

22111
02:19:29,400 --> 02:19:29,400
businessodel.

22112
02:19:29,400 --> 02:19:32,104
now, of course if that -- in

22113
02:19:32,104 --> 02:19:34,438
some cases, continues to spill

22114
02:19:34,438 --> 02:19:34,438


22115
02:19:34,438 --> 02:19:37,359
out in the roadway, then we've

22116
02:19:37,359 --> 02:19:37,359


22117
02:19:37,359 --> 02:19:38,971
started to go down the code

22118
02:19:38,971 --> 02:19:40,406
enforcement path.

22119
02:19:40,406 --> 02:19:42,482
gpd is engaged in some of these

22120
02:19:42,482 --> 02:19:42,482


22121
02:19:42,482 --> 02:19:42,482
businesses.

22122
02:19:42,482 --> 02:19:45,113
I cannot speak in detail for

22123
02:19:45,113 --> 02:19:48,818
what gpd has doan done, but

22124
02:19:48,818 --> 02:19:49,533
they've been involved in the

22125
02:19:49,533 --> 02:19:50,192
conversation and working with

22126
02:19:50,192 --> 02:19:51,256
the businesses.

22127
02:19:51,256 --> 02:19:52,984
in several cases we've seen vas

22128
02:19:52,984 --> 02:19:52,984
t

22129
02:19:52,984 --> 02:19:54,290
improvements just by working

22130
02:19:54,290 --> 02:19:55,922
with the practices

22131
02:19:55,922 --> 02:19:55,922


22132
02:19:55,922 --> 02:19:58,407
>> I appreciate that, and I

22133
02:19:58,407 --> 02:20:00,630
think it's a good way to addre

22134
02:20:00,630 --> 02:20:00,630
ss

22135
02:20:00,630 --> 02:20:02,204
the issue in places that alrea

22136
02:20:02,204 --> 02:20:02,204
dy

22137
02:20:02,204 --> 02:20:03,696
exist, but I don't want to

22138
02:20:03,696 --> 02:20:08,197
continue making more work for

22139
02:20:08,197 --> 02:20:10,144
code enforcement and gpd,

22140
02:20:10,144 --> 02:20:12,004
clearly we're setting ourselves

22141
02:20:12,004 --> 02:20:12,004


22142
02:20:12,004 --> 02:20:14,105
up for a problem and trying to

22143
02:20:14,105 --> 02:20:14,105


22144
02:20:14,105 --> 02:20:16,072
fix it instead of seeing if we

22145
02:20:16,072 --> 02:20:16,072


22146
02:20:16,072 --> 02:20:18,137
can't find ways to eliminate t

22147
02:20:18,137 --> 02:20:18,137
he

22148
02:20:18,137 --> 02:20:18,137
problems.

22149
02:20:18,137 --> 02:20:20,248
it's frustrated me.

22150
02:20:20,248 --> 02:20:21,985
I talked to a lot of people who

22151
02:20:21,985 --> 02:20:21,985


22152
02:20:21,985 --> 02:20:23,147
get frustrated with it,

22153
02:20:23,147 --> 02:20:25,484
especially on major

22154
02:20:25,484 --> 02:20:25,484
thoroughfares.

22155
02:20:25,484 --> 02:20:33,663
when we look at major

22156
02:20:33,663 --> 02:20:35,007
thoroughfares through places,

22157
02:20:35,007 --> 02:20:36,398
I'm very concerned about

22158
02:20:36,398 --> 02:20:37,732
continuing to set up the type o

22159
02:20:37,732 --> 02:20:37,732
f

22160
02:20:37,732 --> 02:20:40,566
businesses that are going to

22161
02:20:40,566 --> 02:20:42,202
limit themselves to have code

22162
02:20:42,202 --> 02:20:43,731
enforcement involved or have

22163
02:20:43,731 --> 02:20:45,401
work around to make them

22164
02:20:45,401 --> 02:20:46,716
function well as neighbors.

22165
02:20:46,716 --> 02:20:53,158
>> add to what -- was saying o

22166
02:20:53,158 --> 02:20:53,158
ur

22167
02:20:53,158 --> 02:20:53,664
code requirements.

22168
02:20:53,664 --> 02:20:55,134
during the process as we're

22169
02:20:55,134 --> 02:20:56,844
seeing the newer drive through

22170
02:20:56,844 --> 02:20:56,844
s

22171
02:20:56,844 --> 02:21:00,788
come in, we request a queuing

22172
02:21:00,788 --> 02:21:02,021
analysis from the applicant.

22173
02:21:02,021 --> 02:21:03,226
we do look at that.

22174
02:21:03,226 --> 02:21:04,967
I would say the 7 brew was a

22175
02:21:04,967 --> 02:21:06,632
surprise to all of us.

22176
02:21:06,632 --> 02:21:08,696
we didn't expect that to queue

22177
02:21:08,696 --> 02:21:08,696


22178
02:21:08,696 --> 02:21:10,187
up and backup that far.

22179
02:21:10,187 --> 02:21:12,631
I'm not aware of that trying t

22180
02:21:12,631 --> 02:21:12,631
o

22181
02:21:12,631 --> 02:21:14,605
do that, but I'm not down in

22182
02:21:14,605 --> 02:21:18,331
that area regularly, so -- so

22183
02:21:18,331 --> 02:21:20,512
codes has been monitoring it.

22184
02:21:20,512 --> 02:21:24,671
but the drive throughs that hav

22185
02:21:24,671 --> 02:21:24,671
e

22186
02:21:24,671 --> 02:21:26,847
gone in recently, we've not bee

22187
02:21:26,847 --> 02:21:26,847
n

22188
02:21:26,847 --> 02:21:29,249
seeing on that anymore, like

22189
02:21:29,249 --> 02:21:31,056
what the exception of 7 brew

22190
02:21:31,056 --> 02:21:32,854
first opened, but we are

22191
02:21:32,854 --> 02:21:34,454
actively working with developers

22192
02:21:34,454 --> 02:21:34,454


22193
02:21:34,454 --> 02:21:36,293
and doing a queuing analysis a

22194
02:21:36,293 --> 02:21:36,293
s

22195
02:21:36,293 --> 02:21:39,029
the drive throughs come through,

22196
02:21:39,029 --> 02:21:39,029


22197
02:21:39,029 --> 02:21:40,030
as required by code.

22198
02:21:40,030 --> 02:21:46,551
>> mayor: anything else?

22199
02:21:46,551 --> 02:21:48,867
very good.

22200
02:21:48,867 --> 02:21:51,753
mr. Manager, was that toward

22201
02:21:51,753 --> 02:21:51,753
this?

22202
02:21:51,753 --> 02:21:55,108
>> it was towards this?

22203
02:21:55,108 --> 02:21:56,917
>> we would want a motion and

22204
02:21:56,917 --> 02:21:58,277
add it to the list and send you

22205
02:21:58,277 --> 02:21:58,277


22206
02:21:58,277 --> 02:22:03,245
a new list of code pieces.

22207
02:22:03,245 --> 02:22:04,987
>> I'd like to make a motion w

22208
02:22:04,987 --> 02:22:04,987
e

22209
02:22:04,987 --> 02:22:05,950
add to that the list.

22210
02:22:05,950 --> 02:22:06,532
>> second.

22211
02:22:06,532 --> 02:22:08,323
>> adding it to the list.

22212
02:22:08,323 --> 02:22:09,479
>> mayor: all right.

22213
02:22:09,479 --> 02:22:11,094
is there any public comment on

22214
02:22:11,094 --> 02:22:11,094


22215
02:22:11,094 --> 02:22:11,094
that?

22216
02:22:11,094 --> 02:22:11,094


22217
02:22:11,094 --> 02:22:15,739
>> mr. Mayor, is there like a -

22218
02:22:15,739 --> 02:22:15,739
-

22219
02:22:15,739 --> 02:22:15,739
[indistinct]

22220
02:22:15,739 --> 02:22:15,739
[laughter]

22221
02:22:15,739 --> 02:22:15,739
[laughter]

22222
02:22:15,739 --> 02:22:20,500
emotion added to the list?

22223
02:22:20,500 --> 02:22:23,205
>> mayor: definitely.

22224
02:22:23,205 --> 02:22:24,434
>> I'll get with the city

22225
02:22:24,434 --> 02:22:25,407
manager and find out the

22226
02:22:25,407 --> 02:22:27,973
specific terms.

22227
02:22:27,973 --> 02:22:29,406
>> mayor: very good.

22228
02:22:29,406 --> 02:22:32,207
all in favor please say aye.

22229
02:22:32,207 --> 02:22:33,225
any opposed.

22230
02:22:33,225 --> 02:22:34,645
that passes unanimously.

22231
02:22:34,645 --> 02:22:35,559
mr. Manager.

22232
02:22:35,559 --> 02:22:37,771
>> thank you, mr. Mayor.

22233
02:22:37,771 --> 02:22:39,125
this is unrelated to drive

22234
02:22:39,125 --> 02:22:40,987
throughs or zoning for that

22235
02:22:40,987 --> 02:22:40,987
matter.

22236
02:22:40,987 --> 02:22:42,957
I did want to give you all an

22237
02:22:42,957 --> 02:22:42,957
update.

22238
02:22:42,957 --> 02:22:46,041
we had an individual come at

22239
02:22:46,041 --> 02:22:47,557
public comment and talk a litt

22240
02:22:47,557 --> 02:22:47,557
le

22241
02:22:47,557 --> 02:22:53,536
bit about the st. Francis

22242
02:22:53,536 --> 02:22:53,536
closure.

22243
02:22:53,536 --> 02:22:55,893
I did get an update this

22244
02:22:55,893 --> 02:22:57,838
afternoon from mr. Mann who's

22245
02:22:57,838 --> 02:23:02,141
the city's liaison and coc.

22246
02:23:02,141 --> 02:23:05,587
to date, th there three remaining

22247
02:23:05,587 --> 02:23:05,587


22248
02:23:05,587 --> 02:23:06,915
families in sherlt at

22249
02:23:06,915 --> 02:23:09,279
st. Francis that we have not

22250
02:23:09,279 --> 02:23:09,279
connected.

22251
02:23:09,279 --> 02:23:14,463
we, being the city, the cnd the

22252
02:23:14,463 --> 02:23:14,777
coc, connected with

22253
02:23:14,777 --> 02:23:14,777
housing.

22254
02:23:14,777 --> 02:23:19,228
believe will be connected with

22255
02:23:19,228 --> 02:23:19,228


22256
02:23:19,228 --> 02:23:20,921
housing as early as tomorrow,

22257
02:23:20,921 --> 02:23:22,431
leaving two remaining families

22258
02:23:22,431 --> 02:23:22,431


22259
02:23:22,431 --> 02:23:23,627
and one individual.

22260
02:23:23,627 --> 02:23:25,735
those are the only remaining

22261
02:23:25,735 --> 02:23:27,902
folks that were in shelter tha

22262
02:23:27,902 --> 02:23:27,902
t

22263
02:23:27,902 --> 02:23:31,743
have not been able to find new

22264
02:23:31,743 --> 02:23:31,743


22265
02:23:31,743 --> 02:23:31,743
housing.

22266
02:23:31,743 --> 02:23:36,807
so, we're continuing to work o

22267
02:23:36,807 --> 02:23:36,807
n

22268
02:23:36,807 --> 02:23:38,115
the list and be able to

22269
02:23:38,115 --> 02:23:39,879
successfully place everybody I

22270
02:23:39,879 --> 02:23:39,879
n

22271
02:23:39,879 --> 02:23:41,589
shelter that was in shelter

22272
02:23:41,589 --> 02:23:44,219
before the closure of

22273
02:23:44,219 --> 02:23:45,591
st. Francis hospital.

22274
02:23:45,591 --> 02:23:46,162
>> mayor: excellent.

22275
02:23:46,162 --> 02:23:47,723
I appreciate that.

22276
02:23:47,723 --> 02:23:49,555
I don't see any other lights,

22277
02:23:49,555 --> 02:23:51,465
but I have a few items try to g

22278
02:23:51,465 --> 02:23:51,465
o

22279
02:23:51,465 --> 02:23:52,455
through as quickly as possible

22280
02:23:52,455 --> 02:23:52,455


22281
02:23:52,455 --> 02:23:52,455
here.

22282
02:23:52,455 --> 02:23:56,746
first of all, on a somber note,

22283
02:23:56,746 --> 02:23:56,746


22284
02:23:56,746 --> 02:24:00,838
yesterday's news we learned tha

22285
02:24:00,838 --> 02:24:00,838
t

22286
02:24:00,838 --> 02:24:02,721
coral springs commissioner and

22287
02:24:02,721 --> 02:24:02,721


22288
02:24:02,721 --> 02:24:07,305
vice mayor, nancy bowen, was

22289
02:24:07,305 --> 02:24:08,977
murdered, and what appears to

22290
02:24:08,977 --> 02:24:13,646
have been a domestic violence

22291
02:24:13,646 --> 02:24:13,646
attack.

22292
02:24:13,646 --> 02:24:17,051
I mentioned that not only

22293
02:24:17,051 --> 02:24:19,787
because she is one of our own,

22294
02:24:19,787 --> 02:24:19,787


22295
02:24:19,787 --> 02:24:24,707
but to remind everyone that

22296
02:24:24,707 --> 02:24:26,125
the -- we don't know what's

22297
02:24:26,125 --> 02:24:27,763
happening in somebody else's

22298
02:24:27,763 --> 02:24:27,763
house.

22299
02:24:27,763 --> 02:24:30,613
we don't know, and domestic

22300
02:24:30,613 --> 02:24:36,219
violence can happen anywhere I

22301
02:24:36,219 --> 02:24:36,219
n

22302
02:24:36,219 --> 02:24:38,502
any home, and I have talked

22303
02:24:38,502 --> 02:24:40,239
about this a couple of times

22304
02:24:40,239 --> 02:24:41,039
this year.

22305
02:24:41,039 --> 02:24:43,445
it is something that I want us

22306
02:24:43,445 --> 02:24:43,445


22307
02:24:43,445 --> 02:24:47,087
to, as a city, as an entity,

22308
02:24:47,087 --> 02:24:48,717
find ways that we can be more

22309
02:24:48,717 --> 02:24:51,987
supportive of organizations

22310
02:24:51,987 --> 02:24:52,591
fighting domestic violence.

22311
02:24:52,591 --> 02:24:55,452
and sometimes that is as simpl

22312
02:24:55,452 --> 02:24:55,452
e

22313
02:24:55,452 --> 02:24:59,069
as talking about it.

22314
02:24:59,069 --> 02:25:01,173
that's why I wanted to bring I

22315
02:25:01,173 --> 02:25:01,173
t

22316
02:25:01,173 --> 02:25:01,173
up.

22317
02:25:01,173 --> 02:25:02,847
not for action, but I want to

22318
02:25:02,847 --> 02:25:04,651
think about how we might

22319
02:25:04,651 --> 02:25:08,567
approach the issue differently,

22320
02:25:08,567 --> 02:25:08,567
d

22321
02:25:08,567 --> 02:25:10,785
d nigd we can all -- anything

22322
02:25:10,785 --> 02:25:12,971
we can all do is talk about

22323
02:25:12,971 --> 02:25:13,715
domestic violence more

22324
02:25:13,715 --> 02:25:19,186
frequently and let folks know

22325
02:25:19,186 --> 02:25:21,147
who we may not realize are in a

22326
02:25:21,147 --> 02:25:21,147


22327
02:25:21,147 --> 02:25:22,469
difficult situation, that we a

22328
02:25:22,469 --> 02:25:22,469
re

22329
02:25:22,469 --> 02:25:23,157
here for them.

22330
02:25:23,157 --> 02:25:24,825
the city is here for them.

22331
02:25:24,825 --> 02:25:29,053
we as individuals are here for

22332
02:25:29,053 --> 02:25:29,053


22333
02:25:29,053 --> 02:25:29,053
them.

22334
02:25:29,053 --> 02:25:31,027
and all we can do for this

22335
02:25:31,027 --> 02:25:32,329
commissioner and vice mayor is

22336
02:25:32,329 --> 02:25:32,329


22337
02:25:32,329 --> 02:25:34,102
offer prayers and thoughts,

22338
02:25:34,102 --> 02:25:35,634
which is a hollow thing right

22339
02:25:35,634 --> 02:25:38,775
now, but it was important to

22340
02:25:38,775 --> 02:25:39,203
mention that.

22341
02:25:39,203 --> 02:25:41,935
try to get less somber as I go

22342
02:25:41,935 --> 02:25:41,935


22343
02:25:41,935 --> 02:25:42,434
down the list here.

22344
02:25:42,434 --> 02:25:47,195
I have heard recently that there

22345
02:25:47,195 --> 02:25:47,195


22346
02:25:47,195 --> 02:25:48,843
is potential of the northwest

22347
02:25:48,843 --> 02:25:50,845
boy's club, the existing

22348
02:25:50,845 --> 02:25:54,453
northwest boy's and girl's clu

22349
02:25:54,453 --> 02:25:54,453
b.

22350
02:25:54,453 --> 02:25:57,492
that property being up for sal

22351
02:25:57,492 --> 02:25:57,492
e

22352
02:25:57,492 --> 02:25:59,257
and all sorts of things there.

22353
02:25:59,257 --> 02:25:59,257


22354
02:25:59,257 --> 02:26:00,883
it is in the county.

22355
02:26:00,883 --> 02:26:03,833
it's not in the city, but it I

22356
02:26:03,833 --> 02:26:03,833
s

22357
02:26:03,833 --> 02:26:05,798
important to me, and I think t

22358
02:26:05,798 --> 02:26:05,798
o

22359
02:26:05,798 --> 02:26:08,329
this community, that that

22360
02:26:08,329 --> 02:26:10,197
remain, if it can't be boy's and

22361
02:26:10,197 --> 02:26:10,197


22362
02:26:10,197 --> 02:26:12,169
girl's club, then at least

22363
02:26:12,169 --> 02:26:13,607
remain athletic fields for tho

22364
02:26:13,607 --> 02:26:13,607
se

22365
02:26:13,607 --> 02:26:13,607
purposes

22366
02:26:13,607 --> 02:26:13,607


22367
02:26:13,607 --> 02:26:16,535
that matters a lot to this

22368
02:26:16,535 --> 02:26:22,113
community, I think.

22369
02:26:22,113 --> 02:26:23,871
not only from historical

22370
02:26:23,871 --> 02:26:25,261
perspective, but that kind of

22371
02:26:25,261 --> 02:26:26,415
use is dwindling.

22372
02:26:26,415 --> 02:26:31,083
I am normally 100%, 150% for m

22373
02:26:31,083 --> 02:26:32,589
u new

22374
02:26:32,589 --> 02:26:35,027
places to live, but that is a

22375
02:26:35,027 --> 02:26:36,790
place that's dwindling rapidly

22376
02:26:36,790 --> 02:26:36,790


22377
02:26:36,790 --> 02:26:38,289
when it is not a school use, a

22378
02:26:38,289 --> 02:26:38,289
nd

22379
02:26:38,289 --> 02:26:39,063
that one is not.

22380
02:26:39,063 --> 02:26:40,090
I would like to put that messa

22381
02:26:40,090 --> 02:26:40,090
ge

22382
02:26:40,090 --> 02:26:40,391
out there.

22383
02:26:40,391 --> 02:26:41,691
it is in the county.

22384
02:26:41,691 --> 02:26:42,994
were it to be in the city, I

22385
02:26:42,994 --> 02:26:45,107
don't think my mind would change

22386
02:26:45,107 --> 02:26:45,107


22387
02:26:45,107 --> 02:26:45,421
own that.

22388
02:26:45,421 --> 02:26:46,296
just put that out there.

22389
02:26:46,296 --> 02:26:51,702
a thing that I would like us to

22390
02:26:51,702 --> 02:26:51,702


22391
02:26:51,702 --> 02:26:54,639
be thinking about, we don't nee

22392
02:26:54,639 --> 02:26:54,639
d

22393
02:26:54,639 --> 02:26:55,841
to take action on it tonight,

22394
02:26:55,841 --> 02:26:57,813
but if you would think about

22395
02:26:57,813 --> 02:26:57,813
this.

22396
02:26:57,813 --> 02:27:00,520
I am interested in us getting

22397
02:27:00,520 --> 02:27:01,947
into the community and out of

22398
02:27:01,947 --> 02:27:06,325
the building more as a body.

22399
02:27:06,325 --> 02:27:09,289
I was talking with city clerk

22400
02:27:09,289 --> 02:27:12,457
yesterday about the idea of

22401
02:27:12,457 --> 02:27:15,067
doing one gpc meeting a quarter

22402
02:27:15,067 --> 02:27:15,067


22403
02:27:15,067 --> 02:27:18,899
off site somewhere, in an ada

22404
02:27:18,899 --> 02:27:20,431
accessible city facility,

22405
02:27:20,431 --> 02:27:21,819
wherever possible, certainly a

22406
02:27:21,819 --> 02:27:21,819
n

22407
02:27:21,819 --> 02:27:23,669
ada-accessible facility

22408
02:27:23,669 --> 02:27:25,139
regardless, whether it's city o

22409
02:27:25,139 --> 02:27:25,139
r

22410
02:27:25,139 --> 02:27:27,243
not, and get into each district

22411
02:27:27,243 --> 02:27:27,243


22412
02:27:27,243 --> 02:27:28,745
once a year.

22413
02:27:28,745 --> 02:27:32,391
there's -- I'm sure there's

22414
02:27:32,391 --> 02:27:34,237
reasons to be uncomfortable with

22415
02:27:34,237 --> 02:27:34,237


22416
02:27:34,237 --> 02:27:36,307
that, but I think it's good for

22417
02:27:36,307 --> 02:27:36,307


22418
02:27:36,307 --> 02:27:37,851
the community and the city as a

22419
02:27:37,851 --> 02:27:37,851
n

22420
02:27:37,851 --> 02:27:39,828
organization and us as a

22421
02:27:39,828 --> 02:27:41,015
commission to be out of the

22422
02:27:41,015 --> 02:27:42,218
building when we can.

22423
02:27:42,218 --> 02:27:47,928
I fully respect the idea we've

22424
02:27:47,928 --> 02:27:47,928


22425
02:27:47,928 --> 02:27:49,863
got to be not only personally

22426
02:27:49,863 --> 02:27:53,165
accessible with ada compliance,

22427
02:27:53,165 --> 02:27:53,165


22428
02:27:53,165 --> 02:27:55,839
but also available for people to

22429
02:27:55,839 --> 02:27:55,839


22430
02:27:55,839 --> 02:27:58,002
be able to watch and hear the

22431
02:27:58,002 --> 02:28:00,515
meetings, and that is something

22432
02:28:00,515 --> 02:28:00,515


22433
02:28:00,515 --> 02:28:02,051
that matters that we will

22434
02:28:02,051 --> 02:28:04,209
follow, but I would like to us

22435
02:28:04,209 --> 02:28:04,209


22436
02:28:04,209 --> 02:28:05,411
think about that as we move

22437
02:28:05,411 --> 02:28:06,785
forward, please.

22438
02:28:06,785 --> 02:28:10,587
last thing, I want to thank you

22439
02:28:10,587 --> 02:28:10,587


22440
02:28:10,587 --> 02:28:12,749
all for your wisdom and patienc

22441
02:28:12,749 --> 02:28:12,749
e

22442
02:28:12,749 --> 02:28:14,557
and good humor over the course

22443
02:28:14,557 --> 02:28:14,557


22444
02:28:14,557 --> 02:28:16,271
of this very long day, and I

22445
02:28:16,271 --> 02:28:18,593
hope to see many of you at the

22446
02:28:18,593 --> 02:28:18,593


22447
02:28:18,593 --> 02:28:22,135
mlk prayer breakfast tomorrow

22448
02:28:22,135 --> 02:28:23,523
morning, bright and early.

22449
02:28:23,523 --> 02:28:24,266
commissioner ingle.

22450
02:28:24,266 --> 02:28:26,697
>> I just wanted to throw some

22451
02:28:26,697 --> 02:28:26,697


22452
02:28:26,697 --> 02:28:27,996
support behind that idea of

22453
02:28:27,996 --> 02:28:29,633
maybe having meetings off site,

22454
02:28:29,633 --> 02:28:29,633


22455
02:28:29,633 --> 02:28:31,169
not only because it might be

22456
02:28:31,169 --> 02:28:33,875
interesting to be in all the

22457
02:28:33,875 --> 02:28:36,545
areas of the city, but the ide

22458
02:28:36,545 --> 02:28:36,545
a

22459
02:28:36,545 --> 02:28:38,482
of gpc is a little easier to

22460
02:28:38,482 --> 02:28:38,803
hash out.

22461
02:28:38,803 --> 02:28:40,240
I don't think this is the

22462
02:28:40,240 --> 02:28:41,750
easiest format to have

22463
02:28:41,750 --> 02:28:42,980
conversations about things.

22464
02:28:42,980 --> 02:28:46,051
so, being able to get around a

22465
02:28:46,051 --> 02:28:46,051


22466
02:28:46,051 --> 02:28:48,026
table somewhere or a little bit

22467
02:28:48,026 --> 02:28:48,026


22468
02:28:48,026 --> 02:28:51,912
different format where -- I like

22469
02:28:51,912 --> 02:28:51,912


22470
02:28:51,912 --> 02:28:55,446
to have a look at somebody whe

22471
02:28:55,446 --> 02:28:55,446
n

22472
02:28:55,446 --> 02:28:57,298
I'm talking to them.

22473
02:28:57,298 --> 02:29:00,802
a round table may be conducive

22474
02:29:00,802 --> 02:29:00,802


22475
02:29:00,802 --> 02:29:02,009
to have better conversations a

22476
02:29:02,009 --> 02:29:02,009
nd

22477
02:29:02,009 --> 02:29:03,671
see if we can't get those type

22478
02:29:03,671 --> 02:29:03,671


22479
02:29:03,671 --> 02:29:07,036
of topics on the agenda for whe

22480
02:29:07,036 --> 02:29:07,036
n

22481
02:29:07,036 --> 02:29:09,482
we might be in a format more

22482
02:29:09,482 --> 02:29:10,542
conducive to the conversations

22483
02:29:10,542 --> 02:29:10,542
.

22484
02:29:10,542 --> 02:29:13,174
>> I noticed there's a workshop

22485
02:29:13,174 --> 02:29:13,174
.

22486
02:29:13,174 --> 02:29:15,480
>> mayor: thank you,

22487
02:29:15,480 --> 02:29:16,572
commissioner ingle.

22488
02:29:16,572 --> 02:29:18,086
no further lights.

22489
02:29:18,086 --> 02:29:18,956
we are adjourned.

22490
02:29:18,956 --> 02:29:18,956