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friends, it's about 6:30.

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started, so if you can all

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will be led to scene by Pastor.

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Thank you for joining.

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Let's pray.

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Father, we thank you for this time.
Thank you, God, for

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uh just this day to to gather.

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We pray for uh your will to be done.
We pray for unity,

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we pray for peace, we pray for um uh
you to be glorified through our

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conversations and through uh what is
accomplished today.

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We we trust that you uh are with us
and we pray for your presence.

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And we ask these things in Christ's
name.

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Amen.

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face the flag.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag

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of the United States of America

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and to the Republic for which it
stands,

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one nation, under God, indivisible,

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with liberty and justice for all.

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All right. We're going to start off

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uh with a really awesome opportunity
tonight for recognition
proclamations.

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for um Item A is the American
Planning Association. Texas chapter
planning

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uh awards.

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We just wanted to let council know
and the audience know that

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we just received uh a very
prestigious award from the American
Planning

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Association through its Texas
chapter.

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And basically they went back and
looked at our comprehensive plan

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and they looked at our community for
how we uh went about planning

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and how we went about implementing
this plan.

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And so this year we were the only uh
ones in Texas.

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Sometimes they allow up to two gold
awards for the comprehensive plan,

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but we are the only uh gold level
award uh given for the Argadine

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Gainesville 2040 comprehensive plan.

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And then they also gave us the only
gold best uh community award

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for the entire state of Texas.

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So we are very excited about this.

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This was based around how much uh
involvement we did with the public.

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So this is not a staff or council,

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this is a true community award.

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It's to thank, I mean, staff had a
lot to do with it, council had a lot
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do with it, but our people showed up.

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And that was unprecedented.

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At our first meeting they said, we
expect to have 25 people from the

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public here, so go ahead and put 50
chairs out.

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Once we end up having over 200 chairs
pulled out because how many

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people showed up, and that was a very
pleasant surprise.

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We really did market it, we really
did ask for people's input.

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And so that was very uh it was it was
a very heartwarming with that.

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Then we had a very high participation
rate with our survey.

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And so because we did all that and we
talked with individual uh different

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types of groups of people that were
in the community to see how the

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comprehensive plan would impact them.

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They liked all that different input
and having different groups from the

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community, like the parks board and
the special committee for the

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comprehensive plan alone,

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give input on it and the P and Z give
input on it.

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So with all that along with council
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they they thought we went down the
the right avenue, plus they really

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liked that we did all the planning at
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I was talking to a city manager this
summer at at a conference.

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And he says, you just completed all
three of those plans

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in the last year and a half,

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I said, yes, sir.

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He goes, man, usually it's only one
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And I said, yes, sir, uh it was it
was a lot of work,

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but I think it was well worth it.

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and this community stood tall during
this event.

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So, thank you for all the staff,
thank you to council and

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most of all thank you to the public
for this.

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Yeah, I think uh we first want to
thank the citizens

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for your part in participating.

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Because without you, this plan
wouldn't have come to fruition.

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Your voice was important in this.

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This wasn't our plan, this was your
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Um, I do want to thank staff for all
the hard work that you did uh by

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advertising it, getting out there and
helping people understand, um,

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what what the plans would when they
come to fruition, what that means to
us.

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And then also I want to thank this
council for supporting this effort

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because uh without you uh approving
the budget and and having a vision

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for our community, we wouldn't have
uh been able to uh finish these
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So, uh of course now the hard work is
to come and make them all come

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to fruition and still just being a a
plan on piece of paper.

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So, thanks everyone for for uh um
this hard work and uh well,

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I'm really impressed that we got uh
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for all that, so.

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Yep.

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All right. uh, was that was that all
for the reports, Barry?

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Okay. Uh, recognition.

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Now we'll go to reports. Uh, Metal of
Honor Boulevard presentation by
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Come forward.

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All right. Well, good evening, Mayor,
Council. Thank y'all for having me.

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Uh for the few new members. Uh my
name is Colton Harmes.

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I'm with Kimley Horn. Uh I'm the
design engineer on this project.

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Also have Brandon Bishop, a partner
of mine with Kimley Horn.

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just standing in the back there.

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If you ask me any too hard questions,
I'll look back to him.

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Um, you may remember I was up here
back in April kicking off this
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That's when y'all approved our design
contract to get started.

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Um since then, we met with the Parks
board and some city staff to go over

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some ideas for the project, get some
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What I'm here to do tonight is to go
over all of that information that we
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about with the Parks board.

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And basically show you the update,
show you where we're at now.

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So I'm going to try to take what was
about an hour and a half of content

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with the Parks board, condense that
into about 10 minutes tonight.

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So I'm going to be moving fast,

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but of course if there's any
questions, uh, please feel free to
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Diana, you're running the slides.
Okay, great.

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Um, so quick agenda, run through just
some quick project information.

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Uh, a lot of this will be repeat from
the last time I was up here, but

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want to make sure that we're on the
same page.

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Um, talk through some street and
sidewalk options, the landscape,

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pedestrian and way finding signage.

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Uh, elimination and then leave some
time for your Q&A at the end.

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So, wanted to start with the planning
efforts and very applicable with what

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the update Barry just gave us.

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Um, so now I can tell you you're
award-winning comprehensive plan
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Uh, and so a lot of effort that went
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And what we need to be thinking of is
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that plan.

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Um, like Mayor said, this is taking
it from just a plan on a sheet of
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we're turning this into a real life
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Um, so very excited to be a part of
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Um, it's not only the the downtown
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It's the Summp, which I helped to
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utility maintenance program.

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It's the water and wastewater master
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So we're checking a lot of needs off
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So, Diana, if you go to the next
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This is just the bare bones of this
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I'll get into the funner stuff here
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the bare bones is there's still a
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the street that needs to be updated.

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There's a major sewer line, it's a
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it down to the treatment plant.

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There's a water line. We're going to
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It's the last remaining block all the
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As well as Medal of Honor Street
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So, again, wanted to just really
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of needs with this project. It's not
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That's the part that's going to be
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Um, but the the true base of the
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of community needs.

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And most of what you're paying for is
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Right. Yeah. Yeah. Underground the
utilities for sure.

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Um, so again, this comes straight
from the Guiding Gainville. These are
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um specific goals that I feel this
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contributing to.

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So you'll see throughout my slides
tonight, there'll be down at the
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um, little footnotes of these.

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So as I'm talking about things, think
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comprehensive plan, what we're trying
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So one of those goals, invest in a
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And so that is again part of this
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a full connectivity promenade.

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That would run from the zoo and
Leonard Park all the way to Kiwana's
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Um, and so you see the green path
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as the primary route.

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Uh, but we're keeping our options
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down the Con Street instead.

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Um, and so you see our piece of Medal
of Honor there, again, this is one

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small piece of the much larger grain
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But the decisions that are being
made, what we talked about with the
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board and what we're hoping to get
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tonight, is setting the stage for
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So think of when we talk lighting,
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yes, it'll be applied here, it's
going to be applied everywhere
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Okay, so again, I'm giving you all
the content that we talked about with
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Parks board, but I'm going to breeze
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everything. So, for example, here,
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So we talked through three different
street sections, pros and cons of
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we got a lot of really good feedback,
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preferred option.

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So with option one here, it'll be
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direction, currently Meadow Honors
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Um, but we'll be reducing the actual
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sidewalk, the landscaping, uh, the
true essence and need of Medal of
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Um, so you'll have a 10-foot shared
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still a 5-foot sidewalk on the other
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So you'll have fully dedicated and
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Um, option two was considered, uh
it'd be a slight cost savings, but
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lose about 20 parking

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spot and ultimately we'd determined
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Um for the pavement options, we
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standard concrete pavement, a stamped
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utilizing brick pavers like what you
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of downtown.

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Uh ultimately, we decided to use
concrete paving with some stamped

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concrete accents.

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So you'll see through some of the
other images as I progress forward,

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some of the crosswalks and other
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would have the stamped concrete.

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Uh down below the two images there
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Um and so rather than a standard
intersection, you actually pave

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a little bit extra into a little bit
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Uh that helps add some pedestrian
safety, a spot for them to

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stand and wait before crossing the
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Also protects the on-street parking
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gives them a physical barrier.

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Um so a lot of good uses there, also
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Okay, landscaping.

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I'll be the first to admit, I'm not a
landscaper.

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At Parksport, I had one of my
professional landscapers with me,

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so I'm going to try to talk through
some of their pieces here.

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Um really the gist of it is, we're
using all natural and native
plantings.

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Um we're not trying to force in
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Um it's all things that are uh set to
thrive in this area.

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Um so you see the list of trees and
shrubs there.

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Um and so whenever I go through the
images, you'll see some larger

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tree images, some smaller, this is
kind of the list that we'll be
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Um everything will be locally
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Even some of the materials we have um
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we can utilize some reclaimed brick
pavers from elsewhere in

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the street and work them into the
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Okay. So we talked through two
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the ultimately preferred option.

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Um some highlights here is it really
relies on again that those brick
features.

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So the the bricks that you see
outside of the street around the

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existing monument there at Weaver, um
those will all be those

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reclaimed bricks that I was talking
about before.

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Um so it's a very natural kind of
curvilinear feel to it.

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As opposed to if you go forward
actually two slides Diana.

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One more. I'll come back to this one.

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As opposed to, sorry, one more.

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Yep. Concept B here is a much more
like straight line defined.

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A little bit more of a modern feel.

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Ultimately um working with the Parks
Board to determine that this

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wasn't the best fit for Metal of
Honor.

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But again, wanted to show you
everything that we had talked
through.

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So now back one Diana, yep.

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Um so this is just kind of a zoom in
on some of those features.

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Again with the reclaimed brick.

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Um a lot of those native plantings.

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Um some seating areas around the the
monument. Really make it a nice spot

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to if you are walking along the
ultimate promenade here, this is

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a good place to stop and rest, learn
about the history that the monuments
can offer.

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Okay. Forward a couple, one more.
Perfect.

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Um so now I'm going to get into some
seating options.

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Um wanted to show this as here's all
the different types of benches

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we could find in the immediate area
of this downtown promenade.

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Um I know a lot of these are for
different areas, in front of

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Parksburg Bank or in front of the
library.

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Um the goal of this is to have one
nice consistent branding.

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Throughout the entire promenade.

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So I wanted to really show that

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this isn't the goal, we want to have
something kind of singular and
consistent.

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So next slide.

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talked through a lot of bench
options.

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Um ultimately landed on just kind of
the standard there at the top left.

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Um these are similar to benches that
were just recently purchased

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and installed in the Clones Park.

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So matching that would again help
align with the nice consistent theme.

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Um next couple of slides are just
some other options that we had talked
through.

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If you wanted to get a little more
artistic, some options there.

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And then next slide.

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Um so we have options to customize
benches.

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Um there was some interest here, not
necessarily for the entire promenade.

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but in select locations, we could do
such as this, a metal of honor

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theme bench um again in select areas.

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Uh these are obviously going to be
more expensive than the standard

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so rather than applying them
everywhere and driving up the costs,

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being a little more selective with
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Um now getting into the signage.

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Um we spent a lot of time here with
the Parks Board, so again,

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I'm going to breeze through this
pretty quickly.

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Um here were the original options
that we provided at Parksport,

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we really wanted to work in the brick
aesthetic, trying to match

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what is currently installed at the
Farmers market.

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Again, trying to generate a nice
consistent branding.

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Uh once we got to the cost of these,
we determined that that's

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probably a little cost prohibitive.

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especially those two on the top left,
those are very large, I mean,

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you can kind of see the two-scale
person there.

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These would be like 10-foot plus
tall, be pretty expensive.

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Um so if you go next slide Diana.

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Here are some options that we feel
kind of capture the same idea,

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only much more affordable.

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So rather than full brick columns,
give them, you know, a little

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simpler brick accents there at the
bottom.

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Um the the wood pillar shown there
could be wood, could be metal, you

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know, we'll we'll still work through
the aesthetics on exactly what the
branding looks like,

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But again, a much more affordable
option here.

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Um another big takeaway from the
Parks meeting was you see the little

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logos on the bottom of the signs
there.

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will have across the top will be

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nice consistent city of Gainsville

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branding, but on the bottom gives you

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the opportunity to have um sub area

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branding.

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So when you're in the metal of honor

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area, you could have metal of honor

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themed logos.

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When you're in the downtown area,

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you have downtown themed logos,

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at the zoo, at the colonists park,

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etc.

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And that can be consistently used

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across all sorts of media for the

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city

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for your online maps for event

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planning, for your street side

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signage.

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Um again, offer a very nice

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consistent brand

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um that looks good, is functional,

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um and is pretty cost-effective.

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Uh for the wayfinding map itself,

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um the bottom two are kind of the

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preferred options, the the light mode

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versus dark mode.

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Um the idea here is that wherever

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you are and wherever you're seeing
these

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within the street,

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um we're highlighting where you could

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reach within those red circles are
just

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a 5-minute walk.

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So you may think, oh, I'm at Metal

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of Honor Park, it's too far

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to get anywhere. I'm just gonna get
my car and drive.

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Actually, look, you can get to our

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downtown, you can get to the zoo all

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within a nice easy 5-minute walk.

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So really highlighting the
walkability

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and accessibility of the city.

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Um could also use this as a

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sponsorship opportunity, have
businesses

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pay to get on the map.

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Um again, nice way to highlight

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different uh amenities and businesses

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throughout the community.

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Okay, getting into lighting, we've

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showed really two proposed lighting

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and then one the candlestick style
there

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on the far right is the existing
style.

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Um we got a lot of feedback that

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that is not the preferred style.

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Um it adds a lot of light pollution,

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which I'll show in a second, but

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it's also quite a maintenance concern

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that I've heard from staff.

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Um so we really considered the first
two

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with the middle one there being the

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selected option.

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Um so Diana, if you can kind of

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click through.

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So what you see on the right there is

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the light shed of each of these
lights.

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So with the downward facing style

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versus the candlestick style,

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it's much more concentrated light
shed

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into the area that we're actually

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trying to illuminate,

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rather than with the candlestick,

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it's kind of a 360 lighting backwards

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into businesses or apartments,
lighting

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up, etc.

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This really um refines it into the

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area that we care to light.

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Uh go to next side, Diana.

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So here's the one that we landed on.

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You'll notice it's a slightly smaller

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light shed than the one before, that

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was viewed as a positive.

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Um these are also the most
cost-effective of the three.

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And then last side will be the
candlestick style here.

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And so you see how much more it lit

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backwards again into parking lots,

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into apartments once we get further

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into the main street area.

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Uh last thing I'll talk about here

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is utility undergrounding.

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So there's um currently overhead

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electric and communication lines

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running um all along Metal of Honor

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and the future main street,

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um so it is one of the goals of the

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comprehensive plan to take those

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underground.

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Um obviously that'd provide a much

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more clean aesthetic, a lot more room

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on the surface level for pedestrian

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amenities.

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So here's an example of a project

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that we did actually in Keller where
we took those utilities underground.

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Again, had room for the lighting.

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Um it is a significant cost,

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um which if you had, I don't know,

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bear, did you provide cost?

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So you'll you'll see the line item

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in there um it becomes significant.

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Uh but again, it provides a lot of

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aesthetic and open space value.

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Um also wanted to highlight on this

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picture here, you'll notice the the

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string lighting that connects from

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uh pole to pole.

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So that was something that Parks
Board

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mentioned would be um a nice

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feature to have is the ability

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to have that,

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um or be able to plug in, say, your

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your Christmas rees that you hang

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or the garland that you wrap around
it.

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Um so you'll you'll see on these
lights

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on the picture that there's outlets
at

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the top level.

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So that is priced into these. It is

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an added feature, so it is more

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expensive than um the same option

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without that.

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Um but again, just wanted to
highlight

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that, that that was something that
came straight from the Parks Board.

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So these poles are all of them.

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All all the light poles. Yes, sir.

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It it's sort of like we do with

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we having uh the Reeves that we wrap

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around the Garland and then we have
the

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lights that go up and down the
lights.

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Unless you have these plugins, you
can't have that.

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So if that's a feature you want,

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it's already priced in here.

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If it's something that you want to
cut,

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we can cut that.

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Okay, and I think last slide is

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So, first time I was here was we were

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collecting feedback, we were starting

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to do the renderings, we were
starting

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to do the parks board.

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A lot of that's been done, starting

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to cross things off the list, which
is exciting.

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Um obviously here tonight to get your

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feedback and um ultimately approval.

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And that way we were able to start

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moving forward with actual design.

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Right now everything is only

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conceptual, it's only on the
rendering level.

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Um but as soon as we get your
blessing,

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we'll be moving forward with actual

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engineering design and getting ready

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to take it to true construction.

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I would like to point out on the
cost,

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Um one of the things we were looking

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really closely at was the bio swells.

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That's $145,000 for a bio swell.

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One of the questions I've asked the
engineer

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Uh, with this one,

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uh, if we didn't have the bio sale,
would we have to increase the size of
the drainage?

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'Cause this helps a little bit with
with drainage. The answer was no.

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Uh, will this reduce

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in a sort of a big enough manner to
really show that it reduced flooding

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if we were going to have flooding?

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'Cause, you know, in the past we've
had flooding right there near Taco
Bell

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and and McDonald's on this road.

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And the answer was no, nothing
significant.

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And hence it's a very, it's very
pretty.

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We're going to have other
landscaping, but that's a possible uh
cut right there.

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So we could take that out and it
would take some of the the
landscaping out in that area,

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but that would be a $145,000 savings.

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Right now this is right out uh $4
million for construction, so that'd
bring it up a little under that.

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One of the big things as well is the
over uh to remove the overhead
electric underground,

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which was uh a big thing for the
comprehensive plan for two reasons.

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One is the aesthetics, but two is the
uh

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with all the ice storms and with
everything happening and wind storms
and stuff,

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this makes it more uh durable.

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And in fact, one of the things we're
looking at in subdivision regulations
if we need more and more underground
utilities

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uh to prevent the issues

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with tree limbs, wind storms, uh and
different weather events that could
affect power lines.

480
00:21:33,722 --> 00:21:36,744
But that's $510,000.

481
00:21:36,963 --> 00:21:41,073
So, if you didn't do that, that would
be a savings as well.

482
00:21:41,691 --> 00:21:44,876
Tonight, I don't expect y'all to have
to make a decision.

483
00:21:44,943 --> 00:21:50,331
I wanted I did not want this to be
rushed. I wanted y'all to be able to
look at it, think about it,

484
00:21:50,398 --> 00:21:53,912
take the budget home, look at it,
think about it.

485
00:21:53,979 --> 00:22:00,961
and then either at the first or
second uh or at the second meeting in
September, first one in October,

486
00:22:01,529 --> 00:22:05,951
maybe bring this back and see if
y'all want at that time to give us
instructions

487
00:22:06,018 --> 00:22:10,346
to to uh tell the engineers what we'd
like to see.

488
00:22:12,341 --> 00:22:18,687
Will the sidewalk be connected to the
sidewalk be connected to the sidewalk
that we're doing right now, that $4.5
million one?

489
00:22:18,754 --> 00:22:24,273
That's coming from the high school
out, are we going to make sure that
that's connected to this promenade?

490
00:22:24,340 --> 00:22:28,841
I believe that one connects into the
I-35 piece, it's already there,
right?

491
00:22:28,908 --> 00:22:32,631
And so we will be connecting from
Medal of Honor along Culberson to
I-35.

492
00:22:32,698 --> 00:22:34,723
Okay. Okay. Yes, we will be
connected.

493
00:22:35,141 --> 00:22:36,957
Just want to make sure that was on
there.

494
00:22:37,585 --> 00:22:41,518
Yeah, we will not stop start this
like on Medal of Honor, and on,

495
00:22:41,585 --> 00:22:46,744
it will actually start on that
interstate sidewalk.

496
00:22:46,811 --> 00:22:48,619
Sure. Yeah, yeah.

497
00:22:48,686 --> 00:22:51,449
I just want to make sure that was all
tied in because make it all walkable.

498
00:22:52,636 --> 00:22:55,521
What's the alternative to the
underground?

499
00:22:55,588 --> 00:22:57,895
Like with the existing stuff to stay
there?

500
00:22:57,962 --> 00:23:00,498
Or would you go back with new?

501
00:23:00,565 --> 00:23:05,026
No, so it would just stay right where
it would just stay right where it is
and stay on the same poles that it
is.

502
00:23:05,093 --> 00:23:08,457
Um and yeah, it really wouldn't
impact our design in any other way.

503
00:23:08,524 --> 00:23:10,988
It's far far enough outside what
y'all are planning.

504
00:23:13,352 --> 00:23:17,573
Any other questions? All right.

505
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:20,154
Thank you. Appreciate you coming up
here.

506
00:23:21,700 --> 00:23:27,295
All right. Uh, next item on the
agenda is citizen comments. Uh,
Martin Phillips.

507
00:23:28,273 --> 00:23:30,028
Uh,

508
00:23:30,806 --> 00:23:32,182
You have five minutes.

509
00:23:37,179 --> 00:23:40,194
Good evening. Um, last year

510
00:23:40,261 --> 00:23:46,977
I witnessed a child about eight years
old, um, almost get hit by a truck

511
00:23:47,044 --> 00:23:48,134
in front of my house.

512
00:23:48,201 --> 00:23:50,445
Uh, he was out there
trick-or-treating.

513
00:23:50,794 --> 00:23:53,320
And I'm telling you that to remind
you that Halloween's coming again,

514
00:23:53,387 --> 00:23:58,494
and children will once again be
walking Gainsville streets in the
dark.

515
00:23:58,893 --> 00:24:01,968
Tonight, I'm asking you to direct
staff

516
00:24:02,035 --> 00:24:09,016
to develop a plan for temporarily
closing streets in the historic
district where most trick-or-treating
takes place,

517
00:24:09,385 --> 00:24:15,998
including a parking plan that allows
people to park and walk and to bring
that plan back to council for action.

518
00:24:16,616 --> 00:24:20,519
This is not a hypothetical concern.
It's a safety problem we know exists.

519
00:24:20,586 --> 00:24:26,540
It exists every year, and near misses
happen likely every year.

520
00:24:26,670 --> 00:24:29,885
Gainsville describes itself as a
family-oriented community,

521
00:24:29,952 --> 00:24:36,933
and guiding Gainsville 2040
emphasizes walkability, connectivity,
public spaces and quality of life.

522
00:24:37,023 --> 00:24:40,364
Our actions should reflect that
identity.

523
00:24:40,704 --> 00:24:47,456
Last year, I proposed closing Deton
Street during Halloween with a
parking plan so people could park and
walk.

524
00:24:47,605 --> 00:24:53,553
Only the parking plan ever happened,
even though it was meant to support
and not replace the street closure.

525
00:24:53,620 --> 00:24:57,101
For at least that one child, that
almost wasn't good enough.

526
00:24:57,592 --> 00:25:03,230
I've been told an organization must
sponsor the closure and assume
liability.

527
00:25:03,297 --> 00:25:07,427
But Halloween's gonna happen whether
an organization sponsors it or not.

528
00:25:07,546 --> 00:25:10,222
The question is not who created
Halloween,

529
00:25:10,289 --> 00:25:13,933
the question is who is responsible
for making streets

530
00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,214
safer for the children we know will
be there.

531
00:25:16,852 --> 00:25:20,934
This council recently approved more
than $750,000 for a study

532
00:25:21,001 --> 00:25:24,864
and design towards an approximate $5
million pedestrian promenade

533
00:25:24,931 --> 00:25:28,422
over several blocks of the city.

534
00:25:28,581 --> 00:25:31,983
kind of opportune for me that you
just discussed that.

535
00:25:32,990 --> 00:25:35,453
That creates an important contrast.

536
00:25:35,523 --> 00:25:38,977
We're willing to invest millions of
dollars in pedestrian-friendly

537
00:25:39,044 --> 00:25:41,002
streets in the future,

538
00:25:41,069 --> 00:25:44,483
yet hesitate to temporarily close
streets for one evening

539
00:25:44,550 --> 00:25:47,352
when we know children are walking
them in the dark.

540
00:25:47,951 --> 00:25:49,849
I'm not asking you to spend money
tonight.

541
00:25:49,916 --> 00:25:52,382
I'm asking you to direct staff to
find a solution and bring it

542
00:25:52,449 --> 00:25:54,175
back to the council.

543
00:25:54,264 --> 00:25:56,741
Last year we were told there wasn't
time.

544
00:25:56,808 --> 00:25:58,184
This year there is.

545
00:25:58,264 --> 00:26:01,805
Last year every department in the
city signed off on closures.

546
00:26:02,224 --> 00:26:05,046
and we've had a year to plan since
then.

547
00:26:05,116 --> 00:26:09,168
Our newly adopted comprehensive plan
emphasizes walkability,

548
00:26:09,235 --> 00:26:12,626
connectivity, public spaces and
quality of life.

549
00:26:12,716 --> 00:26:15,771
the value of the comprehensive plan

550
00:26:15,838 --> 00:26:19,020
is using it to make decisions.

551
00:26:19,329 --> 00:26:21,643
This council has the right to do
nothing.

552
00:26:22,082 --> 00:26:25,436
But if you do, you're choosing not to
act on the concerns of 350

553
00:26:25,503 --> 00:26:28,295
people who signed a petition last
year.

554
00:26:28,605 --> 00:26:30,692
And hundreds more you represent

555
00:26:30,759 --> 00:26:32,714
who are going to sign one this year.

556
00:26:33,153 --> 00:26:34,988
So I'll leave you with one question.

557
00:26:36,334 --> 00:26:39,277
Who's gonna stand up and advocate for
these kids?

558
00:26:40,414 --> 00:26:41,960
Is it you, Tommy?

559
00:26:44,074 --> 00:26:47,166
Maybe Gary, is it you? Blair.

560
00:26:47,635 --> 00:26:49,952
I've seen you in my neighborhood,

561
00:26:50,019 --> 00:26:51,677
trick-or-treating with your kids.

562
00:26:51,744 --> 00:26:53,270
Maybe it'll be you.

563
00:26:54,327 --> 00:26:58,290
We've seen what the streets in the
historic district look like

564
00:26:58,357 --> 00:27:01,252
during trick-or-treating.

565
00:27:01,319 --> 00:27:04,534
It's chaos, and this year it's going
to be on Saturday.

566
00:27:04,601 --> 00:27:06,755
It's going to be even more chaotic.

567
00:27:07,154 --> 00:27:08,590
Who's going to do it?

568
00:27:11,742 --> 00:27:13,989
Which one of you is going to insist

569
00:27:14,056 --> 00:27:15,781
we're going to protect kids?

570
00:27:16,081 --> 00:27:18,627
If Gainesville truly is
family-oriented community

571
00:27:18,694 --> 00:27:19,774
we say it is,

572
00:27:19,841 --> 00:27:21,938
our actions need to reflect that.

573
00:27:22,005 --> 00:27:24,339
You need to reflect that.

574
00:27:24,758 --> 00:27:26,935
Tonight, I'm asking you to direct

575
00:27:27,002 --> 00:27:28,740
staff to address this issue,

576
00:27:28,807 --> 00:27:30,905
find solutions and return with a

577
00:27:30,972 --> 00:27:32,757
plan for council approval.

578
00:27:33,136 --> 00:27:35,962
approval. Because Halloween is going
to happen.

579
00:27:36,029 --> 00:27:40,138
The children are going to be there
and we know the streets aren't safe.

580
00:27:40,756 --> 00:27:42,086
Thank you.

581
00:27:42,532 --> 00:27:44,556
[applause]

582
00:27:46,312 --> 00:27:49,015
All right. Item seven, consent
agenda.

583
00:27:49,084 --> 00:27:53,254
approved the minutes from the August
18th, 2026 City Council meeting.

584
00:27:54,371 --> 00:27:57,682
Um...

585
00:27:58,322 --> 00:28:01,706
Then item B is consideration of
action on resolution City

586
00:28:01,773 --> 00:28:03,462
Council approving sale of alcohol

587
00:28:03,529 --> 00:28:05,536
at Civic Center for Zuboli

588
00:28:05,603 --> 00:28:09,526
and C is consideration of an action
resolution

589
00:28:09,593 --> 00:28:11,590
in the City Council of the City of
Gainesville, Texas

590
00:28:11,657 --> 00:28:16,139
authorizing the sale of alcohol
during Country Nites to be held at
Gainesville

591
00:28:16,206 --> 00:28:17,039
Farmers Market on September 26th.

592
00:28:17,106 --> 00:28:19,962
And item D is consideration of an
action on resolution

593
00:28:20,029 --> 00:28:23,223
of the City Council of the City of
Gainesville, Texas approving the
proposed

594
00:28:23,290 --> 00:28:26,841
Cook County appraisal district FY
2026-27 budget.

595
00:28:27,140 --> 00:28:29,753
Any questions or comments about any
of those?

596
00:28:30,372 --> 00:28:32,167
If not, entertain a motion.

597
00:28:32,606 --> 00:28:34,132
I make a motion to approve.

598
00:28:34,251 --> 00:28:36,379
I have a motion to approve. I'll
second. Second.

599
00:28:36,446 --> 00:28:38,760
All those in favor signify by saying
aye. Aye. Aye.

600
00:28:39,019 --> 00:28:40,385
All those opposed same sign.

601
00:28:40,944 --> 00:28:42,889
Motion passes unanimously.

602
00:28:43,128 --> 00:28:44,727
Item E, uh, eight

603
00:28:44,794 --> 00:28:46,719
action items, uh,

604
00:28:47,437 --> 00:28:50,552
A is a public hearing on an ordinance
granting a special

605
00:28:50,619 --> 00:28:52,347
use permit to operate a short-term
rental

606
00:28:52,414 --> 00:28:55,708
located at the original donation GB
edition block two, block one,

607
00:28:55,775 --> 00:28:59,698
pit 1270, commonly known as 115 West
California and located

608
00:28:59,765 --> 00:29:04,695
in the commercial zoning district
within the city limits of Gainsville,
Cook County, Texas

609
00:29:04,762 --> 00:29:07,567
providing for an effective date
containing a

610
00:29:07,634 --> 00:29:09,888
severability clause and making an
open meeting finding.

611
00:29:10,108 --> 00:29:12,691
We will open the public hearing at
6:58.

612
00:29:12,801 --> 00:29:15,497
Hey, Mike, why are you up here before
Allen?

613
00:29:15,564 --> 00:29:18,668
Well, I'd like to say it's due to to
importance level

614
00:29:18,735 --> 00:29:21,641
but really he hasn't figured out he
hasn't he hasn't figured out

615
00:29:21,708 --> 00:29:24,630
how far an ice cream cone goes with
the city secretary, so.

616
00:29:24,809 --> 00:29:26,734
I I see you. Yeah.

617
00:29:26,964 --> 00:29:27,804
Well, yeah. Makes sense.

618
00:29:27,871 --> 00:29:30,059
I have explained it to him several
times, but he just

619
00:29:30,126 --> 00:29:31,455
He's not getting it, okay.

620
00:29:32,140 --> 00:29:33,470
Sorry, Allen.

621
00:29:34,185 --> 00:29:35,751
Maybe one day.

622
00:29:37,237 --> 00:29:39,185
Uh, good evening, Mayor and Council.
This uh this short-term

623
00:29:39,252 --> 00:29:40,721
rental we've looked at it,

624
00:29:40,788 --> 00:29:42,576
meets all of our requirements.

625
00:29:42,643 --> 00:29:44,391
B&Z uh approved it

626
00:29:44,458 --> 00:29:47,802
and we asked for approval, staff
approved staff staff approval.

627
00:29:47,869 --> 00:29:48,702
staff for approval.

628
00:29:48,769 --> 00:29:52,280
All right. Thank you, Mike.
Appreciate it.

629
00:29:52,838 --> 00:29:56,090
Uh is there anyone here that would
like to speak on behalf or?

630
00:29:57,214 --> 00:29:59,518
or have a comment about this.

631
00:30:02,301 --> 00:30:05,026
Seeing no, uh, movement I would
entertain closing, uh,

632
00:30:05,093 --> 00:30:07,021
a motion to close the public hearing.

633
00:30:07,088 --> 00:30:08,843
I'll make a motion to close.

634
00:30:08,953 --> 00:30:10,801
I'll second. I have a motion to close
at 6:59.

635
00:30:10,868 --> 00:30:13,733
All those in favor signify by saying,
'Aye'. Aye.

636
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:15,416
All those opposed, same sign.

637
00:30:15,755 --> 00:30:17,514
Motion passes unanimously.

638
00:30:17,581 --> 00:30:19,389
All right, N B, public hearing on
ordinance granting

639
00:30:19,456 --> 00:30:22,271
a special use permit to operate a
short-term rental

640
00:30:22,338 --> 00:30:25,682
located in the, uh, Lindsey Addition,
Block 31, Lot 5 and 6.

641
00:30:25,749 --> 00:30:28,874
Uh, PID 19671, commonly known as 507
South Lindsey

642
00:30:28,941 --> 00:30:31,008
and located in the single family
zoning district

643
00:30:31,075 --> 00:30:33,083
within the city limits of Gainesville

644
00:30:33,150 --> 00:30:36,364
Cook County, Texas, providing for an
effective date,

645
00:30:36,431 --> 00:30:38,339
containing a severability clause and
making an open meeting finding.

646
00:30:38,406 --> 00:30:40,271
We will open the public hearing at
6:59 p.m.

647
00:30:43,194 --> 00:30:44,683
Same thing on this one.

648
00:30:44,750 --> 00:30:46,408
We've looked at it. We've come up
with their parking.

649
00:30:46,475 --> 00:30:48,064
They meet all of our requirements.

650
00:30:48,131 --> 00:30:49,979
Uh, planning and zoning approved it.

651
00:30:50,046 --> 00:30:52,220
And staff recommends approval as well
on this one.

652
00:30:53,736 --> 00:30:55,056
Thank you, Mike.

653
00:30:55,123 --> 00:30:58,923
Any comments to be made about this
short-term rental application?

654
00:30:59,202 --> 00:31:00,967
This is a public hearing, so.

655
00:31:03,403 --> 00:31:05,411
All right. Seeing no motion or
movement in the audience,

656
00:31:05,478 --> 00:31:07,525
I would entertain a motion to close
the public hearing

657
00:31:07,592 --> 00:31:09,048
at 7:00 p.m.

658
00:31:09,417 --> 00:31:10,916
I'll make a motion to close.

659
00:31:10,983 --> 00:31:12,745
Second.

660
00:31:12,812 --> 00:31:15,568
All those in favor signify by saying,
'Aye'. Aye.

661
00:31:15,635 --> 00:31:17,281
All those opposed, same sign.

662
00:31:17,480 --> 00:31:18,823
Motion passes unanimously.

663
00:31:18,890 --> 00:31:20,748
Item C, consideration of an action on
a resolution

664
00:31:20,815 --> 00:31:22,793
City Council of City of Gainesville,
Texas, approving

665
00:31:22,860 --> 00:31:25,805
a final plat of the Hahn Addition,
Block 11, Lot 7 and 8,

666
00:31:25,872 --> 00:31:27,810
commonly known as 613 Bird,

667
00:31:27,877 --> 00:31:33,572
Gainesville, Cook County, Texas and
also located in the Hahn Addition.

668
00:31:33,692 --> 00:31:36,278
Uh, Block 11, Lot 1 and 2, commonly
known as 423 Hancock,

669
00:31:36,345 --> 00:31:39,051
Gainesville, Cook County, Texas
including the corner of Culbertson

670
00:31:39,118 --> 00:31:43,307
Street, Gainesville, Cook County,
Texas.

671
00:31:43,716 --> 00:31:46,012
Okay, this is a, the reason why this
plat is before you.

672
00:31:46,079 --> 00:31:47,708
It's a plat with a variance.

673
00:31:47,775 --> 00:31:50,670
Um, this plat, we've looked at it.
Uh, it meets all the criteria

674
00:31:50,737 --> 00:31:52,745
of a plat with a variance.

675
00:31:52,812 --> 00:31:54,909
This prop, this, these locate, this
location was originally set up

676
00:31:54,976 --> 00:31:58,659
for single family homes back when it
was set up. So,

677
00:31:58,726 --> 00:32:01,133
So, now we're moving into the
direction the city wants to go

678
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:04,345
with more commercial in that general
area.

679
00:32:04,412 --> 00:32:08,025
Um, this, the, the, the real hardship
here that we looked at,

680
00:32:08,092 --> 00:32:09,561
there's a couple of different ones,

681
00:32:09,628 --> 00:32:11,237
but the real hardship that matters
here

682
00:32:11,304 --> 00:32:14,847
is this property is unique because it
is bordered by three streets.

683
00:32:14,914 --> 00:32:18,168
Which really inhibits the ability to
develop this property.

684
00:32:18,235 --> 00:32:20,572
We have a really nice project, wanted
to go in here,

685
00:32:20,639 --> 00:32:22,866
uh, and this is the first step is
getting this done.

686
00:32:22,933 --> 00:32:24,701
It will allow this to happen, meets
all the

687
00:32:24,768 --> 00:32:28,571
all fire codes, safety codes,
everything such as that.

688
00:32:28,638 --> 00:32:31,414
So after looking at this and planning
and zoning approving it,

689
00:32:31,481 --> 00:32:33,705
staff recommends approval on this.

690
00:32:34,333 --> 00:32:35,603
Okay.

691
00:32:35,670 --> 00:32:37,026
Any questions?

692
00:32:40,318 --> 00:32:41,704
I'd entertain motion.

693
00:32:41,804 --> 00:32:43,422
I'll make a motion to approve.

694
00:32:43,489 --> 00:32:44,599
I have a motion to approve.

695
00:32:44,666 --> 00:32:45,607
I'll second.

696
00:32:45,674 --> 00:32:48,360
Second, all those in favor signify by
saying, 'Aye'. Aye.

697
00:32:48,427 --> 00:32:50,072
All those opposed, same sign.

698
00:32:50,431 --> 00:32:52,157
Motion passes unanimously.

699
00:32:52,326 --> 00:32:53,187
Thank you.

700
00:32:53,254 --> 00:32:56,007
Thank you all. Amy, Cliff, Meredith
and Isaac.

701
00:32:56,695 --> 00:32:59,677
Let me know when your, your ball
games are.

702
00:33:00,655 --> 00:33:02,300
Thank you all for coming tonight.

703
00:33:02,729 --> 00:33:04,059
Congratulations.

704
00:33:05,163 --> 00:33:07,420
Item D, consideration of an action on
an ordinance granting

705
00:33:07,487 --> 00:33:09,644
a special use permit to operate a
short-term rental

706
00:33:09,711 --> 00:33:12,596
located at the Lindsey Addition,
Block 31, Lot 5, uh,

707
00:33:12,663 --> 00:33:16,077
PID 19671, commonly known as 507
South Lindsey

708
00:33:16,144 --> 00:33:18,461
and located in the single family
zoning district

709
00:33:18,528 --> 00:33:21,742
within the city limits of
Gainesville, Cook County, Texas,

710
00:33:21,809 --> 00:33:23,707
providing for an effective date,
containing a severability clause

711
00:33:23,774 --> 00:33:26,261
and making an open meeting finding.

712
00:33:26,328 --> 00:33:27,744
I just read that.

713
00:33:29,190 --> 00:33:33,180
Uh, are there any questions about
this, uh, SUP?

714
00:33:35,354 --> 00:33:38,526
If there's not, I'd entertain a
motion to suspend the charter.

715
00:33:39,044 --> 00:33:40,643
I'll make a motion to suspend the
charter.

716
00:33:40,710 --> 00:33:41,850
I have a motion.

717
00:33:41,917 --> 00:33:42,877
I'll second.

718
00:33:42,944 --> 00:33:45,790
Second, all those in favor signify by
saying, 'Aye'. Aye.

719
00:33:45,857 --> 00:33:47,452
All those opposed, same sign.

720
00:33:47,782 --> 00:33:49,171
Motion passes unanimously.

721
00:33:49,238 --> 00:33:50,574
I'd entertain a motion.

722
00:33:51,442 --> 00:33:53,081
I'll make a motion to approve.

723
00:33:53,148 --> 00:33:54,437
I have a motion to approve.

724
00:33:54,504 --> 00:33:55,355
I'll second.

725
00:33:55,422 --> 00:33:58,038
Second, all those in favor signify by
saying, 'Aye'. Aye.

726
00:33:58,105 --> 00:33:59,730
All those opposed, same sign.

727
00:34:00,050 --> 00:34:01,309
Motion passes unanimously.

728
00:34:01,376 --> 00:34:02,706
Congratulations.

729
00:34:04,468 --> 00:34:06,695
Item E, consideration of an action on
an ordinance granting

730
00:34:06,762 --> 00:34:08,929
a special use permit to operate a
short-term rental

731
00:34:08,996 --> 00:34:11,842
located at the Original Donation
Addition, Block 2, Lot 1, PID 1270,

732
00:34:11,909 --> 00:34:14,794
commonly known as 115 West California

733
00:34:14,861 --> 00:34:17,227
and located in the commercial zoning
district within the city

734
00:34:17,294 --> 00:34:18,793
limits of Gainesville, Cook County,
Texas

735
00:34:18,860 --> 00:34:21,077
Texas, providing for an effective
date, containing

736
00:34:21,144 --> 00:34:24,526
a severability clause and making an
open meeting finding.

737
00:34:25,014 --> 00:34:28,515
Are there any questions or
discussions around this SUP?

738
00:34:29,622 --> 00:34:31,727
If not, I'd entertain a motion to
suspend the charter.

739
00:34:32,255 --> 00:34:33,964
I'll make a motion to suspend.

740
00:34:34,031 --> 00:34:35,131
I have a motion.

741
00:34:35,198 --> 00:34:36,128
Second.

742
00:34:36,195 --> 00:34:38,482
Second, all those in favor signify by
saying, 'Aye'. Aye.

743
00:34:38,549 --> 00:34:40,065
All those opposed, same sign.

744
00:34:40,504 --> 00:34:41,943
Motion passes unanimously.

745
00:34:42,010 --> 00:34:43,140
I'd entertain motion.

746
00:34:43,207 --> 00:34:44,606
I'll make a motion to approve.

747
00:34:44,673 --> 00:34:45,743
I have a motion to approve.

748
00:34:45,810 --> 00:34:46,770
I'll second.

749
00:34:46,837 --> 00:34:49,354
Second, all those in favor signify by
saying, 'Aye'. Aye.

750
00:34:49,421 --> 00:34:50,947
All those opposed, same sign.

751
00:34:51,286 --> 00:34:52,931
Motion passes unanimously.

752
00:34:53,111 --> 00:34:54,597
Congratulations.

753
00:34:55,984 --> 00:34:59,745
item of discussion on hotel occupancy
tax funding.

754
00:35:06,256 --> 00:35:11,059
Okay, on this, what staff is looking
for, what we're looking

755
00:35:11,126 --> 00:35:15,926
for is to just tell us how much that
you want to fund in each of

756
00:35:15,993 --> 00:35:20,075
these categories. We don't need to
know what you want specifically

757
00:35:20,142 --> 00:35:26,981
funded in this, but right now
tonight, it's just what's the amount
so we could get that in the final
draft of the budget.

758
00:35:27,679 --> 00:35:30,637
And so, I don't know if y'all want to

759
00:35:30,704 --> 00:35:35,699
specifically go through each of these
specifically, or y'all want to talk
about it and generally,

760
00:35:35,878 --> 00:35:38,836
or if you want to start at the top of
the list y'all have

761
00:35:38,903 --> 00:35:43,808
and tell me if you want it funded and
how much or not and what council
feels.

762
00:35:45,962 --> 00:35:48,804
I I'm open to any way y'all want to
go through this.

763
00:35:52,944 --> 00:35:59,417
We can all kind of share our uh
overarching thoughts and then uh dig
into specifics if we need to.

764
00:36:00,434 --> 00:36:01,367
I'll let somebody else go first.

765
00:36:01,434 --> 00:36:04,469
[laughter]

766
00:36:04,536 --> 00:36:06,075
Listen to it.

767
00:36:06,142 --> 00:36:08,549
I think it might be easier if we just
go from the top.

768
00:36:08,616 --> 00:36:10,740
Just start at the top, just if we

769
00:36:10,807 --> 00:36:13,024
how we go about it.

770
00:36:13,091 --> 00:36:14,633
Like the blues and tattoos.

771
00:36:14,700 --> 00:36:16,582
Uh I would say fully fund it.

772
00:36:19,345 --> 00:36:21,914
You know, we don't have to vote if
y'all just sort of tell me,

773
00:36:21,981 --> 00:36:28,182
this isn't really a vote, it's just
so because y'all vote on it when it's
in the uh the uh budget.

774
00:36:29,169 --> 00:36:34,740
I I would like to say that there's a
lot of advertising dollars in every
request this year.

775
00:36:34,807 --> 00:36:37,841
And is there a way for any kind of
collaboration

776
00:36:37,908 --> 00:36:40,793
or any kind of partnerships to help
each other

777
00:36:40,860 --> 00:36:44,943
instead of spending so much money on

778
00:36:45,010 --> 00:36:46,702
individual

779
00:36:48,328 --> 00:36:49,948
I mean, it's I don't know.

780
00:36:50,015 --> 00:36:51,487
bulk advertising.

781
00:36:51,554 --> 00:36:54,064
I I agree with Tommy 100% on this.

782
00:36:54,452 --> 00:36:57,410
Yeah, I just one of the things

783
00:36:57,477 --> 00:37:00,203
I also almost every was asking us to
fund their own separate,

784
00:37:00,270 --> 00:37:01,200
you know, Right.

785
00:37:01,267 --> 00:37:02,766
web page or app or what else

786
00:37:02,833 --> 00:37:06,039
And I'd really like to see for the
city to give direction

787
00:37:06,106 --> 00:37:08,253
and putting it all together

788
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:10,577
so you could go to one spot to find
out what's going on.

789
00:37:10,644 --> 00:37:13,867
One of the things uh Janice and I've
always had an issue with is

790
00:37:13,934 --> 00:37:17,159
a lot of the organizations will put a
fundraiser or event

791
00:37:17,226 --> 00:37:19,951
and then you got two or three things
on the exact same night

792
00:37:20,018 --> 00:37:21,847
because nobody communicated.

793
00:37:21,914 --> 00:37:24,739
So we need some type of switchboard
or way to coordinate uh

794
00:37:24,806 --> 00:37:27,882
a lot of events in town.

795
00:37:27,949 --> 00:37:30,224
And provide for some of the smaller
groups to be able to

796
00:37:30,291 --> 00:37:32,264
put their stuff out there.

797
00:37:32,331 --> 00:37:33,164
Exactly.

798
00:37:33,231 --> 00:37:35,005
I call it like a clearing house, is
what I call it.

799
00:37:35,072 --> 00:37:38,305
Because there is economies of scale
in advertising,

800
00:37:38,372 --> 00:37:41,468
it's in everything you do.

801
00:37:41,535 --> 00:37:46,085
So if if we can negotiate a bulk
advertising agreement,

802
00:37:46,152 --> 00:37:48,849
it it may be even multi-year, I don't
know.

803
00:37:48,916 --> 00:37:53,067
So that everyone benefits from this,

804
00:37:53,134 --> 00:37:57,431
but I see it as best used dollars and
return on investment.

805
00:37:58,149 --> 00:38:00,747
And so, I want the highest return on
investment that we can get

806
00:38:00,814 --> 00:38:03,485
for these funds is the way I looked
at it.

807
00:38:03,673 --> 00:38:06,133
And I I just think, I think we can
improve on the way

808
00:38:06,200 --> 00:38:08,232
we've been approaching it.

809
00:38:09,878 --> 00:38:13,015
One of the things that we as staff
because we heard y'all talking

810
00:38:13,082 --> 00:38:15,848
about this during different meetings,

811
00:38:15,915 --> 00:38:19,198
and we have a budget in here for
around a a $125,000

812
00:38:19,265 --> 00:38:23,618
roughly.

813
00:38:23,685 --> 00:38:26,022
for advertising.

814
00:38:26,089 --> 00:38:30,968
Of that, 65,000 of that is for try to
get a bulk rate on

815
00:38:31,035 --> 00:38:36,054
maybe go out and a couple different
networks to get bulk

816
00:38:36,121 --> 00:38:40,125
multi-media advertising.

817
00:38:40,192 --> 00:38:43,136
So that could be used or that could
be cut to allow these other

818
00:38:43,203 --> 00:38:46,897
organizations to do some of their
own,

819
00:38:46,964 --> 00:38:51,514
or we could mix it and have them uh
the keep the 65,000 in there

820
00:38:51,581 --> 00:38:56,492
and try to get them to help these
other organizations.

821
00:38:56,559 --> 00:38:58,866
with that.

822
00:38:58,933 --> 00:39:02,086
And of course, like I said, there's a
overall about $125,000

823
00:39:02,153 --> 00:39:05,079
coming through the city for trying to
advertise for outside

824
00:39:05,146 --> 00:39:09,442
getting people in.

825
00:39:09,601 --> 00:39:13,058
So we could use that as a
collaborative that 125 and

826
00:39:13,125 --> 00:39:15,782
reduce some of these others, or

827
00:39:15,849 --> 00:39:19,541
reduce at least the $65,000 that
we're looking at to get

828
00:39:19,608 --> 00:39:23,530
a bulk rate of that 125 uh

829
00:39:23,597 --> 00:39:29,017
and that gives a little allows a
little bit more funding for these

830
00:39:29,084 --> 00:39:32,532
other organizations. So any way y'all
want to do that.

831
00:39:34,447 --> 00:39:37,494
Going on what Gary was saying, the
electronic billboard was a

832
00:39:37,561 --> 00:39:40,028
pretty big ticket item in there. It
is.

833
00:39:40,095 --> 00:39:43,778
Couldn't we like I don't know if it'd
be sublet or just utilize

834
00:39:43,845 --> 00:39:47,767
the city purchasing a large amount of
the electronic billboard

835
00:39:47,834 --> 00:39:51,757
and then allowing the subordinate
groups that they because they're

836
00:39:51,824 --> 00:39:55,193
not going to get it all get it all
year long.

837
00:39:55,790 --> 00:39:57,235
during their event we could let them

838
00:39:57,302 --> 00:40:01,007
use the electronic billboard at that
time.

839
00:40:01,549 --> 00:40:04,185
So, what I would like to add to that.

840
00:40:04,252 --> 00:40:05,608
Because I've gone through this,

841
00:40:05,675 --> 00:40:07,244
I've spent a lot of time on it.

842
00:40:07,424 --> 00:40:11,763
So, I I struggle with even funding a
billboard.

843
00:40:11,832 --> 00:40:13,112
And here's why.

844
00:40:13,179 --> 00:40:16,480
For one thing, it's $265,000 is what
it is.

845
00:40:16,839 --> 00:40:18,673
And I would tell you last year, I
actually advocated

846
00:40:18,740 --> 00:40:21,168
supporting a billboard.

847
00:40:21,467 --> 00:40:24,359
But after doing some research and
having discussed this

848
00:40:24,426 --> 00:40:26,716
discussions with staff.

849
00:40:26,783 --> 00:40:30,433
I know that there are different ways
to approach it

850
00:40:30,500 --> 00:40:33,724
where we could actually utilize these
funds or

851
00:40:33,791 --> 00:40:35,918
keep us under because I'm because I
want to go off

852
00:40:35,985 --> 00:40:39,064
on something else here that ties back
to this.

853
00:40:39,131 --> 00:40:41,635
Is I believe in leverage.

854
00:40:42,193 --> 00:40:45,204
So, what one billboard on Interstate
35 does for me

855
00:40:45,271 --> 00:40:47,502
is one billboard.

856
00:40:47,569 --> 00:40:50,880
For $265,000 basically.

857
00:40:51,399 --> 00:40:55,018
I would rather spend 100 grand or
$200 grand and know

858
00:40:55,085 --> 00:40:58,589
I can put billboards in the
Metroplex, get on

859
00:40:58,656 --> 00:41:02,094
billboards in the Metroplex, Oklahoma
City

860
00:41:02,161 --> 00:41:06,493
Because the goal is to draw people to
the city of Gainesville.

861
00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:09,172
What I get when it's sitting on 35 is
someone flying

862
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:13,773
down 35 hoping and praying they stop
and come back.

863
00:41:13,840 --> 00:41:17,910
So, I think there's a better way to
approach this in my opinion.

864
00:41:19,366 --> 00:41:21,829
So with that, can I carry on this
little bit, Tommy?

865
00:41:21,896 --> 00:41:22,729
Yeah.

866
00:41:22,796 --> 00:41:23,629
[laughter]

867
00:41:24,325 --> 00:41:25,746
Well, I'm just You got the mic. I
know, but

868
00:41:25,813 --> 00:41:28,353
I just want to be sure I wasn't
screwing up things.

869
00:41:28,420 --> 00:41:29,680
No, you're not. You're not.

870
00:41:29,747 --> 00:41:31,475
So this is something that I want to I
just want to throw out

871
00:41:31,542 --> 00:41:33,072
food for consideration.

872
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:39,077
So we have requests this year for
I'll just call it a million eight.

873
00:41:39,525 --> 00:41:42,347
Now, you can say that we have total
of avail available,

874
00:41:42,414 --> 00:41:44,186
approximately a million.

875
00:41:44,253 --> 00:41:46,228
and I'm rounded numbers is what I'm
doing.

876
00:41:46,295 --> 00:41:47,128
Okay.

877
00:41:47,195 --> 00:41:49,361
So I know from my experience on the
council and those others

878
00:41:49,428 --> 00:41:52,123
who've been here, we know that our
average revenue for

879
00:41:52,190 --> 00:41:57,244
each fund hot fund is a million
dollars a year.

880
00:41:57,311 --> 00:42:01,160
So if we come in and we distribute
and say we're going to give

881
00:42:01,227 --> 00:42:03,593
everybody all of this, we just
committed to a

882
00:42:03,660 --> 00:42:05,629
million eight this year.

883
00:42:05,779 --> 00:42:08,442
And now our any reserve is gone.

884
00:42:08,701 --> 00:42:12,321
So next year when we just have a
million dollars,

885
00:42:12,388 --> 00:42:15,562
all these people in this room are not
going to be happy with us

886
00:42:15,629 --> 00:42:18,056
because we're only going to have a
million dollars to distribute,

887
00:42:18,123 --> 00:42:20,064
which means we're going to come in
and start cutting things.

888
00:42:20,131 --> 00:42:23,007
I don't like that approach. I'm
telling you.

889
00:42:23,074 --> 00:42:24,144
I just don't.

890
00:42:24,211 --> 00:42:28,582
So when I go through and add up
approve funds for 26,

891
00:42:28,649 --> 00:42:32,589
I came up with I'll call it a million
dollars. I'll round it.

892
00:42:32,868 --> 00:42:35,494
So there's our million bucks right
there.

893
00:42:35,561 --> 00:42:38,083
Already spent if we just give every
organization that got

894
00:42:38,150 --> 00:42:41,635
funds last year, we spent a million
dollars.

895
00:42:42,204 --> 00:42:45,414
So then my point of view is, now we
should go look at all

896
00:42:45,481 --> 00:42:50,934
the new request, and we also have to
make it determined,

897
00:42:51,001 --> 00:42:54,271
are we willing to spend that rest of
that $900,000

898
00:42:54,338 --> 00:42:58,371
and make that I'm going to tell you I
don't support that.

899
00:42:58,551 --> 00:43:01,841
Because I don't want to be the bad
guy up here next year

900
00:43:01,908 --> 00:43:04,035
telling ABC organization, we're
cutting your monies

901
00:43:04,102 --> 00:43:07,458
in half. They're not going to like me
very much.

902
00:43:07,697 --> 00:43:11,326
So I think we have to go through and
we have to prioritize,

903
00:43:11,393 --> 00:43:15,256
I believe, in all the new request,
how how much and

904
00:43:15,323 --> 00:43:19,599
how far we're willing to go into
reserves.

905
00:43:19,666 --> 00:43:23,339
because and having a discussion with
Barry,

906
00:43:23,406 --> 00:43:27,325
we talked about in the in the in the
the reserves or the

907
00:43:27,392 --> 00:43:31,394
overage is an accumulation of years
of where all the

908
00:43:31,461 --> 00:43:34,268
money was distributed.

909
00:43:34,407 --> 00:43:37,149
And and so I said, well, what what
can the money be used for?

910
00:43:37,216 --> 00:43:40,003
Well, obviously tourism only.

911
00:43:40,192 --> 00:43:42,864
But if we have a large item request
come in or something

912
00:43:42,931 --> 00:43:46,136
we really need to do, let's say all
of a sudden we decide we want

913
00:43:46,203 --> 00:43:47,546
to do a billboard.

914
00:43:47,613 --> 00:43:50,135
You know what? We have the money to
go down there and do the

915
00:43:50,202 --> 00:43:52,201
billboard and not check for it.

916
00:43:52,400 --> 00:43:54,834
That's Gary's thought process.

917
00:43:54,901 --> 00:43:55,734
Yeah.

918
00:43:55,801 --> 00:43:57,971
Tell me what you, whatever you want
to tell me.

919
00:43:58,038 --> 00:44:00,850
[laughter]

920
00:44:01,718 --> 00:44:05,178
I agree with Councilman Sutton that
we shouldn't dip into

921
00:44:05,245 --> 00:44:08,723
the reserves too aggressively.

922
00:44:08,790 --> 00:44:12,120
It'd be nice to have a cushion, you
know, call it

923
00:44:12,187 --> 00:44:14,753
400,000 or 800,000, you know,
something in the

924
00:44:14,820 --> 00:44:17,220
middle there.

925
00:44:17,287 --> 00:44:18,762
we we can kind of decide on that. But
I'd like to

926
00:44:18,829 --> 00:44:20,113
have a little bit of cushion there.

927
00:44:20,180 --> 00:44:23,719
I do not want to overcommit us to
where we cannot honor the

928
00:44:23,786 --> 00:44:30,533
or at least, you know, do the same
next year as we did this year.

929
00:44:31,879 --> 00:44:35,249
I I'd be more I I would prefer to
give a little bit to as

930
00:44:35,316 --> 00:44:38,561
many people as possible and instead
of saying this

931
00:44:38,628 --> 00:44:41,527
person gets everything and this one
gets nothing.

932
00:44:41,594 --> 00:44:44,307
assuming they meet the requirements
and everything.

933
00:44:44,706 --> 00:44:47,996
Uh, I'd I'd rather come in under
their requested amount

934
00:44:48,063 --> 00:44:50,640
and give them nothing at all.

935
00:44:51,348 --> 00:44:52,678
And uh

936
00:44:53,333 --> 00:44:54,663
I will

937
00:44:56,119 --> 00:44:56,952
[cough]

938
00:44:58,084 --> 00:45:00,597
A couple quick things, I- I think.

939
00:45:01,036 --> 00:45:05,195
The easy one I think is this
billboard. I'm going to tell you,

940
00:45:06,362 --> 00:45:09,108
This was a request from another group
that says, hey,

941
00:45:09,175 --> 00:45:10,584
we could put us and advertise
ourselves up here.

942
00:45:10,651 --> 00:45:13,097
And I said, well, that's really not
the greatest idea I don't think.

943
00:45:13,164 --> 00:45:16,508
just to have one organization have
the whole billboard and us pay for
that

944
00:45:16,575 --> 00:45:18,892
and nobody else gets to use it.

945
00:45:18,959 --> 00:45:21,775
So then it was like, okay, the whole
city could use it.

946
00:45:21,842 --> 00:45:25,515
And that I think was really that
group's intent, but they had that
idea.

947
00:45:25,582 --> 00:45:30,250
I think ultimately it's for
everybody, but it came from one
specific group.

948
00:45:30,549 --> 00:45:33,541
It came in about $180,000.

949
00:45:34,768 --> 00:45:37,234
to get sort of, yeah, last year. Last
year.

950
00:45:37,301 --> 00:45:38,780
And well, that's what they requested.

951
00:45:38,847 --> 00:45:41,493
But when I got to researching it, is
everything said

952
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:44,166
you don't want a $180,000 billboard.

953
00:45:44,233 --> 00:45:49,240
At minimum you wanted a $245,000
billboard.

954
00:45:49,400 --> 00:45:53,243
I started meeting with a group that
owns several billboards in
Gainesville

955
00:45:53,310 --> 00:45:56,980
and several throughout the Metroplex.

956
00:45:59,114 --> 00:46:03,157
And they are actually talking to me
about possibly wanting to put digital
billboards

957
00:46:03,224 --> 00:46:09,019
out on the same area we were looking
to do it.

958
00:46:09,627 --> 00:46:15,066
But instead of them paying us for
that lease space in cash, they would
pay us

959
00:46:15,133 --> 00:46:19,574
via advertising on all the billboards
in Gainesville and plus some of them

960
00:46:19,641 --> 00:46:22,803
they had down in the Metroplex.

961
00:46:23,700 --> 00:46:28,840
And so something like this what I was
looking at with that is, okay, we
have

962
00:46:28,907 --> 00:46:33,846
$0 up front, we have a few square
footage of land being used that
wouldn't be used

963
00:46:33,913 --> 00:46:37,397
for anything otherwise.

964
00:46:37,464 --> 00:46:39,382
Or we would have our own sign up
there.

965
00:46:39,449 --> 00:46:42,893
When that sign breaks, we have to fix
it, we have to pay for electricity,
and we

966
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:46,002
have to pay for an annual cell
service on it.

967
00:46:46,132 --> 00:46:50,074
Where if we did it this other way, it
would be we get X amount of
advertising per year

968
00:46:50,141 --> 00:46:54,121
for as long as that sign's there.

969
00:46:56,016 --> 00:47:01,544
And so I think that's a quick
$245,000 cut out of the budget.

970
00:47:01,611 --> 00:47:05,055
One thing I would request is leave a
20 there, uh because we were looking
at

971
00:47:05,122 --> 00:47:09,012
starting to add, um,

972
00:47:09,890 --> 00:47:13,932
wayfinding signs starting out off of
the interstate and coming off and and
we had

973
00:47:13,999 --> 00:47:17,812
groups asking said, hey, we want this
down on the interstate.

974
00:47:17,879 --> 00:47:21,821
Well, I-35 will not technically in
that area be out of construction to
at least

975
00:47:21,888 --> 00:47:25,033
February 2027.

976
00:47:25,100 --> 00:47:29,242
So we can't put anything there to
February 2027, which means it's out
of the budget

977
00:47:29,309 --> 00:47:33,740
here. So that's just sort of a hold
over from last year.

978
00:47:33,807 --> 00:47:39,452
So that was one thing I think we
could make a very easily $245,000
cut.

979
00:47:39,831 --> 00:47:41,161
Exactly.

980
00:47:45,925 --> 00:47:48,372
I guess just in general on the
billboard. Do we know like the
effectiveness,

981
00:47:48,439 --> 00:47:51,015
or impact, reach,

982
00:47:51,082 --> 00:47:54,745
influence of like billboards versus
social media

983
00:47:54,812 --> 00:47:55,713
content?

984
00:47:55,780 --> 00:48:01,986
Like what what's the difference?
What's the reach difference? I know
we have some statistics, but

985
00:48:02,053 --> 00:48:04,799
That would be a Pauline, if she had
that, I don't know if

986
00:48:04,866 --> 00:48:09,008
I don't know if she hasn't
researched. Do you have that off the
top of your head or would you need to
look into it?

987
00:48:09,075 --> 00:48:12,409
Sorry, Susan Cohens was asking me a
question about billboards.

988
00:48:12,476 --> 00:48:14,643
Billboards compared to social media.

989
00:48:14,710 --> 00:48:15,830
the effectiveness and influence

990
00:48:15,897 --> 00:48:19,840
depends on where we're at because um
if we are in the Metroplex we can get
tens of

991
00:48:19,907 --> 00:48:23,148
thousands a month.

992
00:48:23,228 --> 00:48:24,557
Um,

993
00:48:24,644 --> 00:48:26,263
and it just depends on how we, yeah.

994
00:48:26,330 --> 00:48:29,474
I can get you some some data but it
just really depends on how we target
the

995
00:48:29,541 --> 00:48:31,499
social media stuff.

996
00:48:31,566 --> 00:48:35,309
And a lot of the little department uh
itemizations had some social media

997
00:48:35,376 --> 00:48:42,089
advertising line items in there. So
we would be ticking both boxes.

998
00:48:42,478 --> 00:48:43,994
Can I make a comment on that?

999
00:48:44,871 --> 00:48:48,216
I don't think it's um appropriate to
talk about social media versus
something

1000
00:48:48,283 --> 00:48:50,337
like a billboard.

1001
00:48:50,726 --> 00:48:54,868
because you have to balance both the
traditional media with the social
media

1002
00:48:54,935 --> 00:49:00,344
and new media, it's a balance between
them.

1003
00:49:00,411 --> 00:49:02,967
So that is something that I just
wanted to put out there.

1004
00:49:03,034 --> 00:49:04,513
I don't think all eggs in one basket.

1005
00:49:04,580 --> 00:49:07,106
I don't want to ping these
organizations down to billboards.

1006
00:49:07,173 --> 00:49:10,517
And so like, I don't know where the
line is on we're talking about
getting rid of,

1007
00:49:10,584 --> 00:49:13,928
you know, the advertising and all
these line items for these
organizations,

1008
00:49:13,995 --> 00:49:17,706
but I just didn't want it to be on a
billboard only. And so,

1009
00:49:17,865 --> 00:49:19,681
Yeah, I I don't think that's what he
said.

1010
00:49:19,820 --> 00:49:21,169
I I I don't think it was clarified.

1011
00:49:21,236 --> 00:49:22,069
[laughter]

1012
00:49:22,413 --> 00:49:27,463
Oh, oh, with this, we're, we are
talking about specifically building
one billboard.

1013
00:49:27,530 --> 00:49:30,475
What, I know, earlier you were
talking about getting rid of
advertisement

1014
00:49:30,542 --> 00:49:32,310
because there're so many on here.

1015
00:49:32,377 --> 00:49:35,263
So I just want to make sure we
weren't like just want to clarity
around it.

1016
00:49:35,330 --> 00:49:36,836
That's all. Oh, okay.

1017
00:49:40,077 --> 00:49:43,920
We were looking to try and aggregate
so that we're not funding 10
organizations

1018
00:49:43,987 --> 00:49:49,136
to do billboard advertising if we can
put it together in the pot.

1019
00:49:49,203 --> 00:49:53,678
Like I'd really like that idea of us
being able to get billboard

1020
00:49:53,745 --> 00:49:57,168
very coverage all over the place for
the use of our space right here.

1021
00:49:57,235 --> 00:50:00,700
And we just be a lease, I guess, a
ground lease for whatever sign goes.

1022
00:50:00,767 --> 00:50:01,996
Mhm.

1023
00:50:02,063 --> 00:50:03,392
I like that idea.

1024
00:50:03,908 --> 00:50:07,821
I I think all we're really saying is
let's manage the redundancy.

1025
00:50:07,888 --> 00:50:08,858
Yes.

1026
00:50:08,925 --> 00:50:10,254
That's all I'm saying.

1027
00:50:11,029 --> 00:50:14,959
Well here's another quick thing. Uh
on butter Butterfield.

1028
00:50:15,408 --> 00:50:18,184
We go from um and this is building
maintenance.

1029
00:50:18,251 --> 00:50:20,577
It's not what we give to Butterfield.
This is the account

1030
00:50:20,644 --> 00:50:23,559
that the city uses to maintain our
required for maintenance

1031
00:50:23,626 --> 00:50:26,472
on the Butterfield.

1032
00:50:26,539 --> 00:50:28,766
Like we're responsible for the roof,
the windows,

1033
00:50:28,833 --> 00:50:32,274
and the elevator just to make it
really quick.

1034
00:50:32,523 --> 00:50:35,149
And a few years ago, we redid the
elevator.

1035
00:50:35,216 --> 00:50:38,009
It's a couple hundred thousand
dollars.

1036
00:50:38,358 --> 00:50:43,677
Right now, we're going from 20 to to
about 44,000.

1037
00:50:43,744 --> 00:50:48,182
And the reason for that, that would
replace all the rest of the windows.

1038
00:50:48,332 --> 00:50:51,207
We can either do that or do what
we've been doing.

1039
00:50:51,274 --> 00:50:52,770
Let a window fall.

1040
00:50:54,566 --> 00:50:58,787
Then we put up a piece of plywood,
whenever somebody tells us it's
fallen,

1041
00:50:58,854 --> 00:51:03,375
and then we go and we try to find
somebody and we place,

1042
00:51:03,442 --> 00:51:06,068
usually it's cheaper because of the
cost just to have them

1043
00:51:06,135 --> 00:51:09,460
come up here with the equipment.

1044
00:51:09,527 --> 00:51:14,147
It's a lot cheaper to do three to
four windows than just one.

1045
00:51:14,214 --> 00:51:17,239
So we do our best as like I guess
those three right there get replaced,

1046
00:51:17,306 --> 00:51:20,398
you know, including that broken one.

1047
00:51:21,096 --> 00:51:24,687
Or do we just go and replace them all
at the same time.

1048
00:51:25,186 --> 00:51:27,014
And wouldn't have that on the budget
for next year

1049
00:51:27,081 --> 00:51:28,577
because they've been replaced.

1050
00:51:28,976 --> 00:51:32,100
Well, for next year, that's what I'm
asking for is an extra

1051
00:51:32,167 --> 00:51:34,793
about $24,000.

1052
00:51:34,860 --> 00:51:37,387
Do y'all want to do that or do y'all
want us to wait for them

1053
00:51:37,454 --> 00:51:39,548
to fall?

1054
00:51:40,047 --> 00:51:43,072
My opinion there, I did think about,
okay, what if we broke

1055
00:51:43,139 --> 00:51:45,067
what was it 27, 30?

1056
00:51:45,134 --> 00:51:47,161
what would it be to replace the
remainder?

1057
00:51:47,228 --> 00:51:48,159
About 28 windows.

1058
00:51:48,226 --> 00:51:49,256
36 36, okay.

1059
00:51:49,323 --> 00:51:51,151
I was thinking, okay, what if we
broke that into two years

1060
00:51:51,218 --> 00:51:52,714
instead of one?

1061
00:51:53,113 --> 00:51:55,739
Uh uh as kind of a compromise,

1062
00:51:55,806 --> 00:51:59,728
but if, you know, we're trying to
trim hundreds of thousands of
dollars,

1063
00:51:59,795 --> 00:52:03,119
I don't I see that as a really
important expenditure and it it's

1064
00:52:03,186 --> 00:52:08,572
you know, only trimming you know, 15
uh $18,000.

1065
00:52:08,872 --> 00:52:10,400
Um so it would you know,

1066
00:52:10,467 --> 00:52:13,592
I I'd be open for how practical it
would be to it would it be

1067
00:52:13,659 --> 00:52:15,587
worth the savings,

1068
00:52:15,654 --> 00:52:18,579
the small savings to break it into
two years or uh would

1069
00:52:18,646 --> 00:52:20,773
we just want to go ahead and get it

1070
00:52:20,840 --> 00:52:25,628
get it done now since we got the
money?

1071
00:52:26,226 --> 00:52:29,019
I I'll give you a real life example
on that one.

1072
00:52:29,418 --> 00:52:31,213
So my church is across the street.

1073
00:52:31,812 --> 00:52:34,006
And so I I see that all the time.

1074
00:52:34,505 --> 00:52:37,230
And and and Barry can tell you
exactly what I did.

1075
00:52:37,297 --> 00:52:40,322
So I came up here one day and I said,
there's a window

1076
00:52:40,389 --> 00:52:45,975
on the south side of Butterfield
stage at the top half is missing.

1077
00:52:46,074 --> 00:52:49,865
Now this was going on during all of
the rainy season. Right.

1078
00:52:50,563 --> 00:52:52,757
And I said, here's the problem we're
going to have.

1079
00:52:53,256 --> 00:52:56,281
And they did go put a piece of
plywood over it after we talked.

1080
00:52:56,348 --> 00:52:57,477
I said, here's the problem you're
going to have.

1081
00:52:57,544 --> 00:52:59,572
That's water is going in that
building.

1082
00:52:59,639 --> 00:53:04,327
Do you know what the mold remediation
can cost this city?

1083
00:53:04,626 --> 00:53:07,850
And so I totally support, let's get
them done.

1084
00:53:07,917 --> 00:53:08,915
[laughter]

1085
00:53:12,505 --> 00:53:16,428
And then for the rest of the dark
green items on yours

1086
00:53:16,495 --> 00:53:19,819
that would affect the general fund if
we don't do that.

1087
00:53:19,886 --> 00:53:22,280
so can everybody agree to those?

1088
00:53:22,878 --> 00:53:25,870
[sigh]

1089
00:53:26,168 --> 00:53:27,001
I do.

1090
00:53:27,068 --> 00:53:29,361
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.

1091
00:53:31,057 --> 00:53:33,351
Yes. Okay.

1092
00:53:37,041 --> 00:53:41,762
I would like to get other council
members' opinion on the uh

1093
00:53:41,829 --> 00:53:44,455
Great American Bash. Uh I

1094
00:53:44,522 --> 00:53:48,544
I'm just going to kind of lay out my
entire thought process

1095
00:53:48,611 --> 00:53:51,603
and then I'd love to have it open
discussion about it.

1096
00:53:52,002 --> 00:53:56,723
Uh I I totally thought uh I attended
last year and I thought it was
phenomenal

1097
00:53:56,790 --> 00:54:00,712
and I uh I I would love to continue
seeing things like that.

1098
00:54:00,779 --> 00:54:04,004
But uh if we were lacking in this is
a really, really good

1099
00:54:04,071 --> 00:54:06,397
problem to have, right?

1100
00:54:06,464 --> 00:54:09,589
because this community the the the
staff and the organizations in this

1101
00:54:09,656 --> 00:54:11,684
town do a great job

1102
00:54:11,751 --> 00:54:15,673
in putting on a lot of uh really uh
amazing events.

1103
00:54:15,740 --> 00:54:18,765
And so if we were lacking in the uh
things to do, uh things

1104
00:54:18,832 --> 00:54:21,658
for citizens to do department,

1105
00:54:21,725 --> 00:54:24,450
uh then I I'd be all for it,

1106
00:54:24,517 --> 00:54:29,637
but we we are uh flush if you will on
things to do on the weekend, you
know.

1107
00:54:29,704 --> 00:54:32,629
Uh half these proposals were for
festivals and and uh

1108
00:54:32,696 --> 00:54:35,090
and things like that.

1109
00:54:35,189 --> 00:54:41,605
So, it makes sense to to do it for
the uh 250th uh anniversary.

1110
00:54:41,672 --> 00:54:46,592
Uh there's if there was no one else
around that did stuff like that

1111
00:54:46,659 --> 00:54:49,485
and, you know, we could kind of uh be
the be the beacon

1112
00:54:49,552 --> 00:54:52,702
that has the 4th of July thing.

1113
00:54:52,769 --> 00:54:56,153
Uh, yeah, I feel it's kind of a
saturated

1114
00:54:56,220 --> 00:54:59,335
uh thing. There's several other areas
around here that do it.

1115
00:54:59,402 --> 00:55:03,534
Uh, every little community, Casburg
has a great show and stuff, you know.

1116
00:55:03,601 --> 00:55:07,155
Uh, they're all all fighting for when
to do it and

1117
00:55:07,222 --> 00:55:12,877
and uh, it's I I feel like it's not a
department we're lacking in.

1118
00:55:13,326 --> 00:55:18,276
Uh, it's nice that you know, it's
great for the 250th anniversary to

1119
00:55:18,343 --> 00:55:22,634
uh foot the bill for a great thing
for uh the city.

1120
00:55:22,701 --> 00:55:26,385
Now, if I saw him black and white
that it was a revenue generator,

1121
00:55:26,452 --> 00:55:27,522
I'll shut up.

1122
00:55:27,589 --> 00:55:32,735
But uh, you know, I just like to
bring that to discussion.

1123
00:55:33,154 --> 00:55:36,226
Uh, I'd also like to point out on
page 64.

1124
00:55:37,283 --> 00:55:40,986
Uh, on that Texas two-step on that

1125
00:55:41,053 --> 00:55:45,634
they give a very specific example
that says 'fireworks anyone,' this

1126
00:55:45,701 --> 00:55:48,773
does not qualify for hot funds.

1127
00:55:49,043 --> 00:55:52,593
And so I would like to point that
out.

1128
00:55:54,568 --> 00:55:57,577
And so that's up to y'all if y'all
want to

1129
00:55:57,644 --> 00:56:01,233
find some of the other items that
were included in that,

1130
00:56:01,300 --> 00:56:04,355
but like the firework portion and
doing all that is not

1131
00:56:04,422 --> 00:56:08,881
would not be something that we could
fund.

1132
00:56:09,270 --> 00:56:12,035
with hot taxes and that's why last
year this was not

1133
00:56:12,102 --> 00:56:13,412
funded through hot tax.

1134
00:56:13,479 --> 00:56:18,386
It was funded through just regular
funding.

1135
00:56:22,210 --> 00:56:24,427
I thought it was a really great
event.

1136
00:56:24,494 --> 00:56:25,753
Uh, my grandkid really loved it.

1137
00:56:25,820 --> 00:56:28,576
Uh, there it was cram packed full.

1138
00:56:28,643 --> 00:56:31,618
What was it like over 7,000, am I get
that number right?

1139
00:56:31,685 --> 00:56:33,121
It was like 4,100.

1140
00:56:33,351 --> 00:56:36,505
It felt like 7,000 because it was
completely full.

1141
00:56:36,572 --> 00:56:38,769
And it was more than they were
anticipating, right?

1142
00:56:38,836 --> 00:56:40,243
Much more. Great turnout.

1143
00:56:41,170 --> 00:56:43,956
Uh, I wouldn't be able to put a
number on it, but I mean all the
vendors

1144
00:56:44,023 --> 00:56:46,536
sold a whole bunch.

1145
00:56:46,945 --> 00:56:50,339
and uh, I thought there were people
really having a great time.

1146
00:56:50,406 --> 00:56:54,266
I thought it really did do a big
bonus for the city of Gainsville.

1147
00:56:54,366 --> 00:56:56,523
If we can't find the fireworks that
way, uh,

1148
00:56:56,590 --> 00:56:58,964
whatever we could find would be
great.

1149
00:57:03,502 --> 00:57:06,474
Did the vendors have a good response
to that?

1150
00:57:06,803 --> 00:57:09,649
Uh, everybody sold out. We actually
had some food trucks that had to
refund

1151
00:57:09,716 --> 00:57:12,858
money because they ran out of food.

1152
00:57:13,167 --> 00:57:17,877
Um, so if we were to do it again, we
would at least double the food come
out.

1153
00:57:17,944 --> 00:57:20,029
and we have a lot of ideas.

1154
00:57:20,168 --> 00:57:22,256
Um, since you asked me the question,
I will say that there's no

1155
00:57:22,323 --> 00:57:24,178
fireworks in that budget.

1156
00:57:24,657 --> 00:57:27,639
We're not, there's not going to be
any fireworks.

1157
00:57:27,719 --> 00:57:29,048
Yeah, there's not in this.

1158
00:57:29,813 --> 00:57:31,629
We would not be paying for fireworks.

1159
00:57:32,626 --> 00:57:34,424
Well, and it wasn't just retail
sales.

1160
00:57:34,491 --> 00:57:36,738
Uh, our brother's house is that am I

1161
00:57:36,805 --> 00:57:40,468
Yeah, we partner with Cook County
United Way and so we had

1162
00:57:40,535 --> 00:57:44,458
um, volunteers from throughout Cook
County

1163
00:57:44,525 --> 00:57:48,767
to support uh the whole event.

1164
00:57:48,834 --> 00:57:51,716
So my brother's house helped with
parking.

1165
00:57:52,783 --> 00:57:56,467
Um, we had folks helping with the
kids zone, uh,

1166
00:57:56,534 --> 00:57:59,286
helping vendors in and out.

1167
00:57:59,905 --> 00:58:03,947
Um, at the end of the day, we'll do
whatever uh council wants

1168
00:58:04,014 --> 00:58:07,285
staff is at your mercy.

1169
00:58:07,635 --> 00:58:08,931
[laughter]

1170
00:58:10,188 --> 00:58:12,512
So is that something y'all want or
not?

1171
00:58:13,170 --> 00:58:16,833
Do we know if like would Saffron be
open to us being there every year?

1172
00:58:16,900 --> 00:58:19,357
Do we, is there a space required?

1173
00:58:19,424 --> 00:58:21,748
Would we have other venues to do
that?

1174
00:58:22,595 --> 00:58:25,787
They had no issue with us being
there.

1175
00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:32,131
But we only had to be there this year
because of the fireworks.

1176
00:58:32,869 --> 00:58:35,641
Uh, I don't understand the question.

1177
00:58:35,761 --> 00:58:38,357
Well, we had to we had to find a
place we could go and have a

1178
00:58:38,424 --> 00:58:40,412
firework show.

1179
00:58:40,479 --> 00:58:43,092
Are we going to have fireworks if we
do this one?

1180
00:58:43,401 --> 00:58:47,610
Well, if you budget for this event,

1181
00:58:48,009 --> 00:58:50,695
we would ask some we would solicit

1182
00:58:50,762 --> 00:58:54,106
Solicit for donations for or
sponsorships for fireworks.

1183
00:58:54,173 --> 00:58:57,008
you know, make sure that the hot
money was going towards appropriate
things,

1184
00:58:57,075 --> 00:58:59,439
but the fireworks paid for by
somebody else.

1185
00:58:59,718 --> 00:59:04,316
And weren't local citizens ponying up
quite a bit?

1186
00:59:05,603 --> 00:59:09,293
You know, there were a significant
amount of donations to go with it.

1187
00:59:09,493 --> 00:59:10,962
There were good sponsorships.

1188
00:59:11,029 --> 00:59:15,899
Yes, we I about 30,000, 25, 30,000
from

1189
00:59:15,966 --> 00:59:19,161
um, across the community

1190
00:59:19,228 --> 00:59:22,412
between the different vendors um we
had

1191
00:59:22,479 --> 00:59:25,701
great partnerships with um in kind
donations from

1192
00:59:26,129 --> 00:59:31,319
uh Walmart, Tractor Supply, GAF, our
great partners.

1193
00:59:31,386 --> 00:59:35,179
We um Saffron obviously helped us
with their location.

1194
00:59:35,246 --> 00:59:38,201
We we had a whole uh stream of
individuals who came in and

1195
00:59:38,268 --> 00:59:41,313
really supported this event.

1196
00:59:41,380 --> 00:59:44,355
So without their partnership, we
would not be able to do this event

1197
00:59:44,422 --> 00:59:47,257
one way or another, no matter what
council decides.

1198
00:59:47,324 --> 00:59:51,344
We are going to need the community to
be a part of this event.

1199
00:59:53,229 --> 00:59:57,002
I'm kind of thinking, you know,
everyone got all excited for 250, you
know.

1200
00:59:57,069 --> 01:00:01,669
will as many people be excited to
write the check for 251, you know?

1201
01:00:01,736 --> 01:00:03,073
Uh.

1202
01:00:03,223 --> 01:00:09,696
It's just the perpetual commitment
that, uh, I'm kind of worried about.

1203
01:00:11,730 --> 01:00:15,503
If since we're not lacking in other
awesome stuff to do on the weekends.

1204
01:00:15,570 --> 01:00:17,076
You know what I'm saying?

1205
01:00:18,164 --> 01:00:21,635
So I have a question for point of
clarification. Sure.

1206
01:00:22,183 --> 01:00:23,978
I'm not going to read this, but

1207
01:00:24,557 --> 01:00:29,058
when I read something here, it's
stated confidential. Okay. So

1208
01:00:29,125 --> 01:00:34,611
I'm not going to read it. I'm going
to read it. I'm going to I'm going to
do a quick summary without divulging.

1209
01:00:35,089 --> 01:00:41,732
So and you can go read the hot funds
two prong content test.

1210
01:00:42,141 --> 01:00:45,123
Anywhere. You can look it up on the
website.

1211
01:00:45,821 --> 01:00:47,270
And

1212
01:00:47,337 --> 01:00:50,469
my interpretation is that

1213
01:00:50,748 --> 01:00:55,309
there's a difference between
attracting tourist

1214
01:00:55,376 --> 01:00:57,673
and generating hotel activity.

1215
01:00:57,740 --> 01:01:00,276
So my question is, that's a

1216
01:01:00,343 --> 01:01:03,139
that's a one night event out there
with the

1217
01:01:03,206 --> 01:01:08,632
the for this year with the the finale
being the big fireworks.

1218
01:01:09,150 --> 01:01:10,550
Yes, there were great turnout.

1219
01:01:10,617 --> 01:01:12,083
I was out there, okay?

1220
01:01:12,691 --> 01:01:16,571
How many heads did that put in our
hotels?

1221
01:01:16,950 --> 01:01:19,207
And I that's where I'm really
struggling.

1222
01:01:19,274 --> 01:01:21,558
Because I don't think it did.

1223
01:01:21,797 --> 01:01:23,556
I think it was a one night activity.

1224
01:01:23,623 --> 01:01:26,834
And it was locals in the surrounding
area.

1225
01:01:27,153 --> 01:01:29,477
So I questioned it on that mirror
too.

1226
01:01:29,996 --> 01:01:32,779
I'm not saying it's a bad thing. I'm
not trying to say that.

1227
01:01:33,237 --> 01:01:34,527
Because I was there. I supported it.

1228
01:01:34,594 --> 01:01:35,594
So I asked my wife, does it really

1229
01:01:35,661 --> 01:01:37,689
I'm just saying does it really does
it really qualify?

1230
01:01:37,756 --> 01:01:42,027
If if we had gone to it and when our
kids were little, she would have

1231
01:01:42,094 --> 01:01:46,393
insisted I got a hotel because they
would have been hot and ready to go
to bed.

1232
01:01:46,563 --> 01:01:49,877
On the flip side to that, I was at a
convention in Waco this summer,

1233
01:01:49,944 --> 01:01:53,607
And there was a card when we checked
into our convention

1234
01:01:53,674 --> 01:01:55,402
that each person was handed

1235
01:01:55,469 --> 01:01:57,098
and we were supposed to fill out

1236
01:01:57,165 --> 01:01:59,691
what hotel we were staying at, how
many people,

1237
01:01:59,758 --> 01:02:03,122
how many days, and what was the name
of the event,

1238
01:02:03,189 --> 01:02:07,122
and each of those cards went to the
city so they had hardcore data.

1239
01:02:07,189 --> 01:02:10,393
And I would hardly recommend we
institute that here.

1240
01:02:10,460 --> 01:02:11,560
I absolutely agree.

1241
01:02:11,627 --> 01:02:15,759
Yeah, the these uh groups that say
they bring people in,

1242
01:02:15,826 --> 01:02:16,659
Right.

1243
01:02:16,726 --> 01:02:18,347
They're going to have a registration
process.

1244
01:02:18,414 --> 01:02:20,193
You hand it to them at registration.

1245
01:02:20,260 --> 01:02:22,886
and we could also have some of the
hotels, so they

1246
01:02:22,953 --> 01:02:24,681
they could, you know, it's part of
their check-in.

1247
01:02:24,748 --> 01:02:26,134
Why are you here?

1248
01:02:26,793 --> 01:02:29,685
Our guests came in to hear the band.

1249
01:02:29,785 --> 01:02:32,650
Just just I mean, I know we only have
four rooms, but our guests

1250
01:02:32,717 --> 01:02:34,096
came in to hear the band because

1251
01:02:34,163 --> 01:02:40,001
when they posted the band on
Facebook, my phone started ringing.

1252
01:02:40,068 --> 01:02:40,901
Wow.

1253
01:02:40,968 --> 01:02:42,314
So, just FYI.

1254
01:02:42,743 --> 01:02:44,072
Thank you.

1255
01:02:49,196 --> 01:02:51,869
So is the Birthday Bash a yes or no?

1256
01:02:52,996 --> 01:02:54,412
I'm neutral.

1257
01:02:54,752 --> 01:02:55,585
[laughter]

1258
01:02:56,317 --> 01:02:58,771
I I will go with the majority.

1259
01:03:00,906 --> 01:03:03,811
I mean, is it all all or nothing on
these things?

1260
01:03:03,878 --> 01:03:06,185
I mean, I feel like we're going to
have to

1261
01:03:06,252 --> 01:03:07,099
It's not an all or nothing.

1262
01:03:07,166 --> 01:03:09,336
That's some dollars from a lot of
people.

1263
01:03:09,403 --> 01:03:10,236
It's not.

1264
01:03:10,303 --> 01:03:11,306
I mean, we're never going to get to
the

1265
01:03:11,373 --> 01:03:12,206
I know.

1266
01:03:12,273 --> 01:03:16,717
to the number if we look at this as
an all or nothing.

1267
01:03:16,784 --> 01:03:20,976
Um, going down the line item of all
the actions,

1268
01:03:21,043 --> 01:03:22,961
there are a lot of them that don't
qualify.

1269
01:03:23,028 --> 01:03:24,207
Absolutely, they don't.

1270
01:03:24,274 --> 01:03:27,556
They like, you know, if you put
undetermined,

1271
01:03:27,875 --> 01:03:29,334
How can we fund undetermined?

1272
01:03:29,401 --> 01:03:30,259
Unassigned. Unassigned.

1273
01:03:30,326 --> 01:03:31,608
Unassigned is an X, I'm sorry.

1274
01:03:31,675 --> 01:03:32,508
Yeah.

1275
01:03:32,575 --> 01:03:34,094
I I agree.

1276
01:03:35,031 --> 01:03:37,837
So I I mean, I don't think we want to
go through every line item

1277
01:03:37,904 --> 01:03:39,632
and all the information.

1278
01:03:39,699 --> 01:03:40,532
No.

1279
01:03:40,599 --> 01:03:41,682
I'd rather talk. will be here all
night.

1280
01:03:41,749 --> 01:03:43,377
I'd rather talk big dollar.

1281
01:03:43,444 --> 01:03:44,784
Big dollar amounts, yep.

1282
01:03:44,851 --> 01:03:46,838
And what we're staying and if we come
to a reasonable

1283
01:03:46,905 --> 01:03:49,880
dollar amount on something,

1284
01:03:49,947 --> 01:03:51,746
Um, we's just kind of go at it that
way.

1285
01:03:51,813 --> 01:03:53,369
I don't think we can go through.

1286
01:03:55,234 --> 01:03:59,844
Okay. Let's look at our tourism
division budget for just advertising

1287
01:03:59,911 --> 01:04:03,994
thing right under the Great American
Birthday Bash.

1288
01:04:04,061 --> 01:04:07,385
So we have basically $160,000 there.

1289
01:04:07,452 --> 01:04:11,035
We told you about 65 was for bolt,
the rest of it's for advertising

1290
01:04:11,102 --> 01:04:13,968
the city to try to attract tourism
through there.

1291
01:04:14,035 --> 01:04:16,997
What's the visitor center
blueprinting?

1292
01:04:17,645 --> 01:04:19,154
Uh, that's something

1293
01:04:19,221 --> 01:04:20,054
I cut out.

1294
01:04:20,121 --> 01:04:20,954
That's a wish.

1295
01:04:21,021 --> 01:04:23,740
I I cut that out of the general fund
and I said that's something

1296
01:04:23,807 --> 01:04:26,513
I will just suggest cutting out here.

1297
01:04:26,580 --> 01:04:27,909
Okay. Yeah.

1298
01:04:28,066 --> 01:04:29,006
Uh.

1299
01:04:29,073 --> 01:04:30,203
It's way premature. Yes.

1300
01:04:30,270 --> 01:04:31,103
Yes.

1301
01:04:31,170 --> 01:04:32,003
Gotcha.

1302
01:04:32,070 --> 01:04:32,903
Okay.

1303
01:04:32,970 --> 01:04:33,803
I'm good now.

1304
01:04:33,870 --> 01:04:35,199
Yep.

1305
01:04:35,439 --> 01:04:41,007
Uh, but the for the 160,000,

1306
01:04:41,074 --> 01:04:44,418
65 of it was bolt, most of the rest
of it is for

1307
01:04:44,485 --> 01:04:47,969
for other advertising throughout the
city.

1308
01:04:48,036 --> 01:04:51,529
So are we using the Nickstar and 101
media media?

1309
01:04:51,596 --> 01:04:54,412
Is that already something that the
city's that the city's funding for?

1310
01:04:54,479 --> 01:04:56,207
No.

1311
01:04:56,274 --> 01:04:57,107
This.

1312
01:04:57,174 --> 01:05:00,608
as we were asked to see if we could
get some bulk stuff put together.

1313
01:05:00,675 --> 01:05:02,689
Okay. That's what we did.

1314
01:05:02,899 --> 01:05:06,034
And so we were asked to do this.

1315
01:05:06,101 --> 01:05:09,751
Do not feel you're going to hurt
staff's feelings if you cut

1316
01:05:10,130 --> 01:05:13,285
this, if you cut the bulk or you cut
some of the others.

1317
01:05:13,352 --> 01:05:16,045
The other, you know,

1318
01:05:16,793 --> 01:05:18,122
this year,

1319
01:05:19,137 --> 01:05:21,054
based upon a comprehensive plan

1320
01:05:21,121 --> 01:05:24,386
it says we're supposed to start
coordinating with these different

1321
01:05:24,453 --> 01:05:26,657
groups for downtown advertising.

1322
01:05:27,245 --> 01:05:29,270
There's multiple ways to do that.

1323
01:05:30,018 --> 01:05:33,405
We could cut some of their funds back
and have them come through

1324
01:05:33,472 --> 01:05:36,883
here or this year cut the 65 back and
us do the others and then

1325
01:05:36,950 --> 01:05:41,122
us start coordinating and seeing if
once we work together, we can

1326
01:05:41,189 --> 01:05:45,178
come up with a plan throughout the
year to do that. Or

1327
01:05:45,538 --> 01:05:48,971
and I know I think that visit widget
is sort of one of the first

1328
01:05:49,038 --> 01:05:50,986
things for coordinating that.

1329
01:05:51,053 --> 01:05:52,383
I love this idea.

1330
01:05:52,469 --> 01:05:57,739
Uh, that helps people plan their
weekends here and we can put

1331
01:05:57,806 --> 01:06:01,349
things in there and coordinate with
everybody plus AI can go out and

1332
01:06:01,416 --> 01:06:04,269
find different things for people and
build that for them.

1333
01:06:05,226 --> 01:06:08,084
That's something was I'm guessing one
of our first ideas on how to

1334
01:06:08,151 --> 01:06:09,568
start coordinating.

1335
01:06:09,635 --> 01:06:11,031
The visit widget?

1336
01:06:11,450 --> 01:06:14,707
Yeah, I did the tour of Laurel,
Mississippi using this today just

1337
01:06:14,774 --> 01:06:15,921
to to test it out.

1338
01:06:15,988 --> 01:06:20,083
And it's a really a one-stop shopping
for everything, for

1339
01:06:20,150 --> 01:06:24,808
somebody to plan a trip here from
restaurants to hotels, to activities.

1340
01:06:24,875 --> 01:06:28,967
It's all map driven, it's app-based,
web-based. I mean,

1341
01:06:29,034 --> 01:06:32,664
I would approve this. The visit
widget.

1342
01:06:33,043 --> 01:06:37,033
And that was something that does
start us coordinating there.

1343
01:06:37,691 --> 01:06:41,717
And so that if you're for it, we can
get that checked off if we're

1344
01:06:41,784 --> 01:06:43,100
general agreement.

1345
01:06:43,167 --> 01:06:45,910
So you're saying that's a starting
point for the other stuff?

1346
01:06:46,259 --> 01:06:48,932
That is a starting point to start to
coordinate.

1347
01:06:49,371 --> 01:06:53,071
And getting things all focused. Now,

1348
01:06:55,874 --> 01:07:00,946
One of the biggest requests on this
is that $160,000 for the

1349
01:07:01,013 --> 01:07:02,387
advertising.

1350
01:07:03,903 --> 01:07:07,310
What do y'all want to do with it?
Because we can trim it. And I don't

1351
01:07:07,377 --> 01:07:11,000
think staff will be upset if we trim
the bulk this year and try to then

1352
01:07:11,067 --> 01:07:14,675
get with people to see how we could
bulk it next year?

1353
01:07:15,313 --> 01:07:19,149
And that might give people some
understanding that we're just not

1354
01:07:19,216 --> 01:07:21,473
trying to take all the money
internally

1355
01:07:21,540 --> 01:07:24,412
and try to control what their
organizations are doing.

1356
01:07:24,479 --> 01:07:27,501
Exactly. And so that might be a good

1357
01:07:27,960 --> 01:07:32,743
$65,000 to cut and then let us
coordinate and then if we can
actually

1358
01:07:32,810 --> 01:07:37,019
say, oh, you use this, we use that
too. Oh, you use this type, we do
too.

1359
01:07:37,086 --> 01:07:40,982
Let's go see if we can hire the same
person and get bulk and maybe we can

1360
01:07:41,049 --> 01:07:44,906
get discount next year and we can
allocate you so much after what we
do.

1361
01:07:45,175 --> 01:07:47,968
Would that work? I will support that.

1362
01:07:48,746 --> 01:07:52,392
So you're talking eliminating
one-on-one media, Nextstar, and the
Visitor Center

1363
01:07:52,459 --> 01:07:54,251
blueprinting off of that.

1364
01:07:55,388 --> 01:07:57,802
I'm just basically saying $100.

1365
01:07:58,012 --> 01:08:02,221
Yes, I'm ta I'm talking take about
$65,000 off of that

1366
01:08:02,799 --> 01:08:05,422
$158,000.

1367
01:08:05,612 --> 01:08:09,881
Totaled up in the other when that. So
he's talking 15 in the 50.

1368
01:08:09,980 --> 01:08:12,068
Yeah, the 15 and the 50 is 65.

1369
01:08:12,135 --> 01:08:13,155
And also the 32 five.

1370
01:08:13,222 --> 01:08:15,257
And then we want the 32 five removed.

1371
01:08:15,576 --> 01:08:17,015
That's the visitor center.

1372
01:08:17,082 --> 01:08:19,166
Yes, yes. Yeah, we're not.

1373
01:08:20,323 --> 01:08:23,605
So where does this leave the digital,
the billboard?

1374
01:08:24,263 --> 01:08:28,468
Well, I think most people have told
me the digital billboard is to mark

1375
01:08:28,535 --> 01:08:30,170
that off and put $20,000.

1376
01:08:30,237 --> 01:08:34,751
Sir, I mean like the bulk advertising
in billboards across DFW, Oklahoma

1377
01:08:34,818 --> 01:08:36,491
City, Cook County.

1378
01:08:36,621 --> 01:08:38,329
You need to do more research on that.

1379
01:08:38,396 --> 01:08:40,810
That that's two separate things.

1380
01:08:43,114 --> 01:08:47,269
That's what we would start working
with people on to see if we can get

1381
01:08:47,336 --> 01:08:50,375
some bulk group multimedia stuff.

1382
01:08:50,893 --> 01:08:53,692
Once we start working with them hand
in hand on what they're doing, what

1383
01:08:53,759 --> 01:08:56,525
we're doing, especially now that
we're going to start coordinating

1384
01:08:56,592 --> 01:08:58,344
using this visit widget,

1385
01:08:58,663 --> 01:09:02,170
so we can see what people are doing
because it picks up and we're trying

1386
01:09:02,237 --> 01:09:04,677
to pick up everything they're doing
sort of like you said,

1387
01:09:05,027 --> 01:09:07,460
when people have multi events on the
same night.

1388
01:09:07,680 --> 01:09:11,233
That's not necessarily bad if they're
sort of totally different type of
event.

1389
01:09:11,300 --> 01:09:13,291
We're times. Oh, yes, our times

1390
01:09:13,358 --> 01:09:19,385
or but it's a good thing if we have a
depot day one day and the next day

1391
01:09:19,452 --> 01:09:24,073
there's something big and all of a
sudden we're really saying now this

1392
01:09:24,140 --> 01:09:29,359
is a weekend or here's your depot day
and hey, the next day you can go
visit

1393
01:09:29,426 --> 01:09:34,595
three or four wineries within a few
hours and then still be back home by

1394
01:09:34,662 --> 01:09:39,672
the next evening early enough to go
to go to work, you know, come in on
Saturday,

1395
01:09:39,739 --> 01:09:45,517
go visit a few wineries Sunday, go
back to Dallas on Sunday night and

1396
01:09:45,584 --> 01:09:47,857
then be able to go home.

1397
01:09:47,924 --> 01:09:51,176
So those are the type of things that
that would be trying to organize.

1398
01:09:51,585 --> 01:09:56,524
So we make take out the 32 five, we
take out the 32 five, we take out the
65 and then that's a pretty

1399
01:09:56,591 --> 01:09:57,424
big cut.

1400
01:09:57,491 --> 01:09:58,426
That's a pretty big cut.

1401
01:09:58,493 --> 01:10:01,804
And and that's a big cut from our own

1402
01:10:02,736 --> 01:10:03,569
of the city's

1403
01:10:03,636 --> 01:10:04,469
request.

1404
01:10:04,536 --> 01:10:06,264
Yes.

1405
01:10:06,331 --> 01:10:09,666
Well, and part of that ask was trying
to work in what council wanted

1406
01:10:09,733 --> 01:10:11,179
and see how we could do this.

1407
01:10:11,508 --> 01:10:14,034
But we sort of thought that visit
widget would be the first step

1408
01:10:14,101 --> 01:10:15,740
towards coordination.

1409
01:10:15,807 --> 01:10:16,640
Yeah.

1410
01:10:16,707 --> 01:10:18,044
I I think that makes sense.

1411
01:10:18,273 --> 01:10:20,909
And you know, one thing that's
positive that might could come out of
the

1412
01:10:20,976 --> 01:10:24,330
the leveraging, the bulk at some
point and the coordination

1413
01:10:24,397 --> 01:10:27,671
is that the our small organizations,
you know, they they they want

1414
01:10:27,738 --> 01:10:30,584
they needed ten to do advertising.

1415
01:10:30,651 --> 01:10:32,479
When we leverage, they may get
$14,000

1416
01:10:32,546 --> 01:10:34,261
worth of value.

1417
01:10:34,940 --> 01:10:36,865
So it's beneficial for them too.

1418
01:10:37,902 --> 01:10:40,528
Lynette, on what you were speaking
of, I was kind of shocked

1419
01:10:40,595 --> 01:10:43,021
that some of the increases were
requested.

1420
01:10:43,088 --> 01:10:43,921
Yes.

1421
01:10:43,988 --> 01:10:44,821
Doul funds.

1422
01:10:44,888 --> 01:10:45,721
Right.

1423
01:10:45,788 --> 01:10:48,314
I don't know about y'all's home
budget, I don't get to

1424
01:10:48,381 --> 01:10:51,306
do a 50% increase in budget.

1425
01:10:51,373 --> 01:10:52,206
Right.

1426
01:10:52,273 --> 01:10:54,998
And for like the first in the blues
and tattoos, their 20, 26

1427
01:10:55,065 --> 01:10:59,427
actual cost of their event was 38,
well, $39,000.

1428
01:10:59,494 --> 01:11:00,327
Right.

1429
01:11:00,394 --> 01:11:02,841
was the was the actual cost of that
event.

1430
01:11:02,908 --> 01:11:08,144
And so they've bumped their request
of $46, over $46,000.

1431
01:11:08,264 --> 01:11:12,017
And if I remember correctly, I think
most of that was in number of

1432
01:11:12,084 --> 01:11:14,827
of uh entertainers.

1433
01:11:15,724 --> 01:11:18,430
Yeah, I think that was was his his
presentation that they wanted to

1434
01:11:18,497 --> 01:11:20,993
increase the number of bands, but

1435
01:11:21,060 --> 01:11:23,876
They have $14,000 in advertising.

1436
01:11:23,943 --> 01:11:25,272
Yeah.

1437
01:11:27,164 --> 01:11:30,548
And I do appreciate the events that
are trying to by increasing

1438
01:11:30,615 --> 01:11:34,348
the budget trying to make it a
two-day event and encourage people to

1439
01:11:34,415 --> 01:11:36,981
to stay locally.

1440
01:11:37,048 --> 01:11:37,919
Right.

1441
01:11:37,986 --> 01:11:40,502
I'm not saying, you know, I sign off
on everything completely,

1442
01:11:40,569 --> 01:11:43,472
but I I do appreciate it if that's
the reasoning for

1443
01:11:44,579 --> 01:11:45,988
some of the budget increase.

1444
01:11:46,055 --> 01:11:48,890
But in the ones that gave us actual
hard numbers, the truck
organizations,

1445
01:11:48,957 --> 01:11:53,728
you sent seven pages of zip codes.
They gave great.

1446
01:11:53,795 --> 01:11:54,628
Wow.

1447
01:11:54,695 --> 01:11:55,528
Right.

1448
01:11:55,595 --> 01:11:56,665
data on there.

1449
01:11:56,732 --> 01:11:59,528
Yeah. They Whoever put your data
together, did great job.

1450
01:11:59,595 --> 01:12:03,198
And I will tell you, I appreciate
there's a couple of organizations in
here

1451
01:12:03,265 --> 01:12:06,058
that this this get makes me have a
lot of respect for these people.

1452
01:12:06,237 --> 01:12:08,524
Instead of bumping it up, hoping
maybe we'll get somewhere,

1453
01:12:08,591 --> 01:12:10,140
they reduce their numbers.

1454
01:12:10,207 --> 01:12:11,040
Yeah.

1455
01:12:11,107 --> 01:12:12,359
That impressed me.

1456
01:12:12,426 --> 01:12:13,259
Sure.

1457
01:12:13,326 --> 01:12:17,964
And if they increase it, at least we
would see why it's increased.

1458
01:12:19,819 --> 01:12:23,569
Especially if it's drawing people
into our city.

1459
01:12:26,255 --> 01:12:27,585
Uh.

1460
01:12:27,961 --> 01:12:29,447
So where are we at?

1461
01:12:29,816 --> 01:12:30,816
Not sure.

1462
01:12:30,883 --> 01:12:34,187
The boys and tattoos, where do you
all want to do, I want to do the the
same

1463
01:12:34,254 --> 01:12:38,922
as last year, do you want to do the
increase? It's about $10,000
difference.

1464
01:12:39,191 --> 01:12:42,266
I think in order to not dip too
heavily into the reserves, uh,

1465
01:12:42,333 --> 01:12:43,982
it would be difficult to

1466
01:12:44,049 --> 01:12:49,095
to increase that too drastically.

1467
01:12:49,624 --> 01:12:52,569
have increased what we did last year
too drastically.

1468
01:12:52,636 --> 01:12:54,135
I'd say give them what they got last
year.

1469
01:12:54,202 --> 01:12:56,306
Yeah, I was going to say, personally,
I'd give him the same money.

1470
01:12:57,444 --> 01:12:58,773
The Greek.

1471
01:12:59,498 --> 01:13:01,473
How about Butterfield stage?

1472
01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:04,954
I was kind of

1473
01:13:05,473 --> 01:13:08,178
the direct, what was it, a direct
mail?

1474
01:13:08,245 --> 01:13:09,914
The direct mailing I want to talk
about.

1475
01:13:09,981 --> 01:13:11,131
Go ahead, Mike.

1476
01:13:11,198 --> 01:13:12,118
Well, I was just going to say,

1477
01:13:12,185 --> 01:13:14,023
Because we're we're headed in the
same direction.

1478
01:13:14,090 --> 01:13:17,135
Uh, we had the expert in the room,
but when I had marketing in college
like

1479
01:13:17,202 --> 01:13:18,791
30 years ago, you got a

1480
01:13:18,858 --> 01:13:23,069
three to 4% return on direct mail.

1481
01:13:23,136 --> 01:13:24,705
It was a very low return on direct
mail.

1482
01:13:24,772 --> 01:13:27,677
It's it's the highest cost exposure,
right?

1483
01:13:27,744 --> 01:13:30,171
And when I get direct mail at the
house, I don't even look at it.

1484
01:13:30,238 --> 01:13:31,228
I used to always talk to

1485
01:13:31,295 --> 01:13:32,625
That's what a Gary does too.

1486
01:13:33,310 --> 01:13:35,195
I think there's value in direct mail.

1487
01:13:35,325 --> 01:13:37,030
Um, I think

1488
01:13:40,072 --> 01:13:42,179
Barry's advice and awarding

1489
01:13:42,246 --> 01:13:46,738
uh money for advertising to an
organization

1490
01:13:46,805 --> 01:13:51,316
would be better than awarding money
for a specific thing,

1491
01:13:51,383 --> 01:13:54,896
and then staff can work with the
organizations to make sure that the

1492
01:13:54,963 --> 01:13:57,836
money is used efficiently.

1493
01:13:58,454 --> 01:14:00,990
Because I do think there's value in
direct mail, but I also think that

1494
01:14:01,057 --> 01:14:04,042
$20,000 for direct mail is a lot.

1495
01:14:04,109 --> 01:14:04,942
It's

1496
01:14:05,009 --> 01:14:05,842
It is.

1497
01:14:05,909 --> 01:14:06,742
Yes.

1498
01:14:06,809 --> 01:14:07,642
It's a lot.

1499
01:14:07,709 --> 01:14:10,285
We could do direct mail and also
other things

1500
01:14:10,352 --> 01:14:13,936
and I think Butterfield is very
willing to collaborate

1501
01:14:14,003 --> 01:14:17,197
to make sure the dollar is stretched.

1502
01:14:17,264 --> 01:14:21,985
I think that that was their vision
because that's what they're familiar
with,

1503
01:14:22,052 --> 01:14:25,047
and I respect that tremendously,

1504
01:14:25,114 --> 01:14:27,610
and I also think that they're willing
to collaborate on how we can make

1505
01:14:27,677 --> 01:14:30,051
the dollar stretch further.

1506
01:14:31,188 --> 01:14:36,347
I I would go back to what Barry
advises to not nitpick the details

1507
01:14:36,414 --> 01:14:38,801
to really look at the vision of

1508
01:14:38,868 --> 01:14:41,115
how much money do you want to give
the organizations

1509
01:14:41,182 --> 01:14:46,191
and then direct staff to proceed
accordingly with the best

1510
01:14:46,258 --> 01:14:50,048
vision for how to use that money.

1511
01:14:51,285 --> 01:14:52,615
Okay.

1512
01:14:52,951 --> 01:14:54,071
So where are we going with this?

1513
01:14:54,138 --> 01:14:55,467
I want to reduce the amount.

1514
01:14:55,574 --> 01:14:57,788
Do you want to give them $25,000?

1515
01:14:57,998 --> 01:15:00,225
Total.

1516
01:15:01,749 --> 01:15:06,833
So we go 17 3 plus a bit 3ish
thousand more for that.

1517
01:15:06,900 --> 01:15:08,230
Is that what you're saying?

1518
01:15:08,574 --> 01:15:10,362
Oh well. Cuz they were asking 20.

1519
01:15:10,429 --> 01:15:11,786
They got 20 last year.

1520
01:15:12,055 --> 01:15:13,674
They're asking 37 for this year.

1521
01:15:13,741 --> 01:15:16,177
37 for this year. Oh I'm looking for.

1522
01:15:16,244 --> 01:15:17,930
I'm on the wrong line then.

1523
01:15:17,999 --> 01:15:20,114
They got 15 last year so we could

1524
01:15:20,483 --> 01:15:21,949
Or we could go do 20.

1525
01:15:22,597 --> 01:15:24,223
I'm 20 or 25?

1526
01:15:25,370 --> 01:15:27,318
You're good with 20? I'm good with
20.

1527
01:15:27,385 --> 01:15:28,961
I am. Okay.

1528
01:15:31,125 --> 01:15:33,778
And this is separate from the

1529
01:15:34,696 --> 01:15:37,451
Okay, cuz the maintenance is a green
item. Okay.

1530
01:15:37,518 --> 01:15:38,848
City book, okay.

1531
01:15:39,802 --> 01:15:40,962
That's in the green.

1532
01:15:41,029 --> 01:15:42,864
Got you. That's a C. Got you. Okay.

1533
01:15:43,124 --> 01:15:44,892
I was looking for the wrong line.

1534
01:15:44,959 --> 01:15:47,834
That goes for as we're supposed to
maintain

1535
01:15:47,901 --> 01:15:49,041
sort of exterior.

1536
01:15:49,108 --> 01:15:51,402
We got a lot of lines here.

1537
01:15:52,100 --> 01:15:55,910
Okay. So now, the Classic Truck
Nationals.

1538
01:15:56,968 --> 01:15:58,474
That's one of the main ones.

1539
01:16:00,588 --> 01:16:02,533
I guess we are going to go with 20
for them.

1540
01:16:03,670 --> 01:16:06,602
Well, that's the movement. They're
focused on the movement.

1541
01:16:08,258 --> 01:16:09,777
They do put heads in beds.

1542
01:16:09,844 --> 01:16:11,470
They do, they do that.

1543
01:16:13,006 --> 01:16:16,031
And they're working towards a two-day
program.

1544
01:16:16,098 --> 01:16:17,427
Right. Right.

1545
01:16:22,102 --> 01:16:24,907
I've just, like I said earlier, to
me, they proved that they

1546
01:16:24,974 --> 01:16:28,209
are bringing people from all over,
you know.

1547
01:16:28,276 --> 01:16:30,031
I agree with that. I agree.

1548
01:16:31,098 --> 01:16:36,744
In the past, when somebody makes a
new initial proposal,

1549
01:16:36,853 --> 01:16:39,809
kind of where do they start at? Do
they start at 10,000?

1550
01:16:39,876 --> 01:16:41,873
50,000? Just like that.

1551
01:16:41,940 --> 01:16:44,546
It's not. It's only been the last few
years that we've

1552
01:16:44,613 --> 01:16:46,431
been getting a lot of new

1553
01:16:46,498 --> 01:16:48,536
new request. New request.

1554
01:16:48,603 --> 01:16:51,116
Because just, I'm going to just tell
you truth.

1555
01:16:51,495 --> 01:16:53,762
Until recently, we weren't getting
that much

1556
01:16:53,829 --> 01:16:55,687
Right. Hotel occupancy tax.

1557
01:16:55,754 --> 01:16:58,520
It was just a little bit more than
was covering the Civic

1558
01:16:58,587 --> 01:17:01,861
Center and a couple other things, and
back then we didn't

1559
01:17:01,928 --> 01:17:05,521
even have a tourist division or
communication division.

1560
01:17:05,588 --> 01:17:08,992
So Tommy will remember last time I
was on council, we didn't

1561
01:17:09,059 --> 01:17:11,284
have to have a discussion with this,
just

1562
01:17:11,742 --> 01:17:13,939
Right. Barry was saying cuz there
wasn't that much.

1563
01:17:14,006 --> 01:17:15,635
And we didn't have that many people
asking.

1564
01:17:15,702 --> 01:17:18,158
Right. So like, you know,

1565
01:17:18,225 --> 01:17:21,340
a lot of these are kind of some
similar. Depot Day's

1566
01:17:21,407 --> 01:17:23,554
got the car show, you've got the
Truck Festival, you've got

1567
01:17:23,621 --> 01:17:24,991
Blues and Tattoos.

1568
01:17:25,058 --> 01:17:32,039
Uh, you know, uh, I would like to,
uh, for the

1569
01:17:32,139 --> 01:17:33,867
citizenry to get as much love

1570
01:17:33,934 --> 01:17:36,727
as city affiliated festivals.

1571
01:17:36,986 --> 01:17:40,650
You know, kind of equally distribute
amongst, you know,

1572
01:17:40,717 --> 01:17:43,273
I don't want to completely fund all
the city stuff

1573
01:17:43,340 --> 01:17:46,065
but then the people on the pavement
putting on their own

1574
01:17:46,132 --> 01:17:48,267
festival don't get any love in, you
know.

1575
01:17:48,446 --> 01:17:52,329
Uh, so I'd like to definitely
strongly consider.

1576
01:17:52,396 --> 01:17:55,271
And their project cost is $52,000.

1577
01:17:55,338 --> 01:17:57,593
So they're not asking for 50.

1578
01:17:57,922 --> 01:18:00,408
I would, I actually, I would give
this amount.

1579
01:18:00,475 --> 01:18:02,552
I was thinking we I would too.

1580
01:18:02,619 --> 01:18:05,964
And, and part of that thinking is I
like the fact they have

1581
01:18:06,031 --> 01:18:08,248
a vision and they're headed towards a
two-day program.

1582
01:18:08,315 --> 01:18:09,215
Right.

1583
01:18:09,282 --> 01:18:11,918
And if Blues and Tattoos gets over
30, then I think

1584
01:18:11,985 --> 01:18:14,728
we could give the Truck Nationals 20.

1585
01:18:15,546 --> 01:18:17,444
Just round it off to 20.

1586
01:18:17,511 --> 01:18:18,720
They only ask for 50.

1587
01:18:18,787 --> 01:18:20,176
Well, I wouldn't give more than they
asked for.

1588
01:18:20,243 --> 01:18:21,882
No, I'd just give them what they
asked.

1589
01:18:21,949 --> 01:18:23,568
That's what I was asking.

1590
01:18:23,635 --> 01:18:24,731
I'm sorry, not me.

1591
01:18:24,798 --> 01:18:26,095
[laughter]

1592
01:18:29,100 --> 01:18:30,420
Okay. Okay.

1593
01:18:30,487 --> 01:18:33,180
So that seems like a check off.

1594
01:18:33,429 --> 01:18:37,010
Uh, how about the Cook County Arts
Council?

1595
01:18:37,808 --> 01:18:39,832
That was the one I had the unassigned

1596
01:18:40,161 --> 01:18:42,189
So, so check out the unassigned.

1597
01:18:42,256 --> 01:18:43,971
for a lot of advertising.

1598
01:18:44,660 --> 01:18:48,111
We've got some unassigned funds as
well.

1599
01:18:48,739 --> 01:18:50,387
I don't legally think we can do that.

1600
01:18:50,454 --> 01:18:52,250
No, I wouldn't think so.

1601
01:18:52,699 --> 01:18:55,115
Okay, so five gets shaved off there
just from the

1602
01:18:55,182 --> 01:18:56,442
unassigned. From the get-go.

1603
01:18:56,509 --> 01:18:58,633
Yeah, that's what I did in my
spreadsheet.

1604
01:19:06,752 --> 01:19:10,166
So they're increasing, they used to
get 10, now it moved up

1605
01:19:10,233 --> 01:19:13,986
to 25. So that's a $15,000 increase.

1606
01:19:14,053 --> 01:19:16,090
If you take the five off, now they're

1607
01:19:16,157 --> 01:19:19,372
they're at a 10,000. They're doubling
from one year to the next.

1608
01:19:19,439 --> 01:19:22,531
Is any representative from the Arts
Council here tonight?

1609
01:19:23,847 --> 01:19:27,022
I'd like to know what kind of
feedback they get from

1610
01:19:27,089 --> 01:19:30,483
since a lot of that's advertising,
you know, what it

1611
01:19:30,550 --> 01:19:33,345
I guess if we increased from 10 to 15
to cover

1612
01:19:33,412 --> 01:19:37,282
more advertising, you know, how much
they benefited from that.

1613
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:40,494
That would be a worthy investment.

1614
01:19:41,711 --> 01:19:45,660
I don't see that being a lot of
people staying overnight for

1615
01:19:46,169 --> 01:19:48,533
Most of it's not. No. Most of it's
not.

1616
01:19:49,540 --> 01:19:51,069
So I'd go for what they got last
year.

1617
01:19:51,136 --> 01:19:53,400
I would go for the 10. I would agree.

1618
01:19:53,590 --> 01:19:56,342
Yeah. With that. I'm good with
keeping it where it's at.

1619
01:19:56,422 --> 01:19:57,692
Okay.

1620
01:19:57,759 --> 01:19:59,165
Uh, Cook County.

1621
01:19:59,272 --> 01:20:00,620
fair association.

1622
01:20:00,687 --> 01:20:02,622
That one's not allowed, right? Is
that?

1623
01:20:02,722 --> 01:20:05,667
Uh the the majority of it the is
maintenance equipment,

1624
01:20:05,734 --> 01:20:07,572
$23,000.

1625
01:20:07,639 --> 01:20:10,484
Although we would be able to do like
we can do a scissor lift

1626
01:20:10,551 --> 01:20:13,045
for the Civic Center.

1627
01:20:13,184 --> 01:20:15,970
because Civic Centers and their
maintenance and operation are

1628
01:20:16,037 --> 01:20:17,257
all legal.

1629
01:20:17,324 --> 01:20:21,406
But there's nothing in the statute
about uh of a

1630
01:20:21,473 --> 01:20:27,161
an arena or a fair barn or anything
like that.

1631
01:20:27,228 --> 01:20:28,926
Or maintenance equipment for that.

1632
01:20:28,993 --> 01:20:32,437
So that would not be allowed.

1633
01:20:32,504 --> 01:20:35,788
I would love to support this
phenomenal endeavor, you know,

1634
01:20:35,855 --> 01:20:39,299
it's all parents given their time and
uh I totally understand uh

1635
01:20:39,366 --> 01:20:42,311
about the maintenance equipment
thing.

1636
01:20:42,378 --> 01:20:44,715
but I I'd love to uh

1637
01:20:44,782 --> 01:20:47,547
And to talk this is Hedsen but yeah,
she had a great list of

1638
01:20:47,614 --> 01:20:49,642
evidence in her presentation.

1639
01:20:49,709 --> 01:20:52,155
So I'd like to support them
partially.

1640
01:20:52,222 --> 01:20:55,267
I will tell you that the county
commissioners give this

1641
01:20:55,334 --> 01:20:57,591
organization a lot of money.

1642
01:20:57,658 --> 01:20:59,855
And I'm basing this off because I
only got the spreadsheet last

1643
01:20:59,922 --> 01:21:01,770
year. Yeah.

1644
01:21:01,837 --> 01:21:04,124
It was a lot of money. Yeah.

1645
01:21:04,191 --> 01:21:06,697
I'm assuming, I'm making an
assumption that they probably

1646
01:21:06,764 --> 01:21:07,785
would do the same thing again this
year.

1647
01:21:07,852 --> 01:21:09,889
So there this is not the only money
they're getting.

1648
01:21:09,956 --> 01:21:12,071
I can tell you right now. Yeah.

1649
01:21:12,888 --> 01:21:14,427
Do you think they're coming to us for
money because they're not

1650
01:21:14,494 --> 01:21:16,359
getting it there?

1651
01:21:16,788 --> 01:21:19,285
Well, I know, I know the
commissioners operate on a

1652
01:21:19,352 --> 01:21:22,117
on a very strict tight budget.

1653
01:21:22,184 --> 01:21:23,573
because I listened to them.

1654
01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:24,970
And uh

1655
01:21:27,331 --> 01:21:28,949
I know it's been heavily supported in
the past

1656
01:21:29,016 --> 01:21:30,655
by the commissioners.

1657
01:21:30,722 --> 01:21:32,168
I do know that much.

1658
01:21:34,392 --> 01:21:38,245
And uh Dakota, I think, you know,
it's probably not a coincidence

1659
01:21:38,312 --> 01:21:42,683
that as our uh remaining uh funds
have continued to increase,

1660
01:21:42,750 --> 01:21:45,835
we started seeing more and more
people uh uh putting in

1661
01:21:45,902 --> 01:21:50,762
applications and and increasing their
um their requests.

1662
01:21:50,829 --> 01:21:52,236
Uh you know, so uh

1663
01:21:53,233 --> 01:21:55,739
that word's probably getting, you
know, may gotten around, hey,

1664
01:21:55,806 --> 01:21:58,190
they've got money to spend. Yeah.

1665
01:21:58,878 --> 01:22:00,756
people less money.

1666
01:22:00,823 --> 01:22:03,140
But at what point is that what we're
supposed to be doing?

1667
01:22:03,207 --> 01:22:04,417
It is. It is.

1668
01:22:04,484 --> 01:22:07,825
I I hope next year it's $2 million
what you distribute.

1669
01:22:08,244 --> 01:22:09,703
Me too. No, me too.

1670
01:22:09,770 --> 01:22:11,847
I'm serious. because that means it's
working. Exactly.

1671
01:22:11,914 --> 01:22:14,450
I'm not opposed to dipping into the
reserves by no means.

1672
01:22:14,517 --> 01:22:16,854
If it's a worthy cause, I'm I'm not
opposed to dipping into the

1673
01:22:16,921 --> 01:22:20,295
reserves, I just don't want to
exhaust it. Yeah, exactly.

1674
01:22:20,362 --> 01:22:22,809
So with the Fair Association, if we
remove the unassigned and the

1675
01:22:22,876 --> 01:22:24,215
equipment,

1676
01:22:24,282 --> 01:22:26,359
and keep everything else we're $8200.

1677
01:22:26,426 --> 01:22:28,910
8200 is what I got. Okay. That's what
I have.

1678
01:22:29,409 --> 01:22:30,568
We good with that? Yep.

1679
01:22:30,635 --> 01:22:32,161
Cool.

1680
01:22:33,917 --> 01:22:36,662
Okay, Cook Karen to society, Morton
Museum and Santa Fe

1681
01:22:36,729 --> 01:22:38,694
Depot.

1682
01:22:39,542 --> 01:22:42,727
We gave them 80 last year and they
reduced it to 63 this year.

1683
01:22:42,794 --> 01:22:43,973
So give them what they requested.

1684
01:22:44,040 --> 01:22:46,404
What's the event expenses?

1685
01:22:46,903 --> 01:22:51,514
What is that? The event expenses for
$30,000.

1686
01:22:51,581 --> 01:22:54,513
What is that? That's that's almost
like an assigned to me.

1687
01:22:54,822 --> 01:22:56,201
That's kind of what I was thinking.

1688
01:22:56,268 --> 01:22:58,027
Yeah. Say that again. It's almost
like

1689
01:22:58,094 --> 01:23:01,458
you haven't given us enough
information to make a decision.

1690
01:23:01,525 --> 01:23:03,041
I got you. Okay.

1691
01:23:04,287 --> 01:23:07,888
That's That's an expe $30,000 event
expense is what it says.

1692
01:23:08,506 --> 01:23:09,866
Yeah, that's what it says.

1693
01:23:09,933 --> 01:23:12,459
I'm not sure exactly what Reese had
on, she not get a breakdown

1694
01:23:12,526 --> 01:23:14,341
on that.

1695
01:23:14,750 --> 01:23:15,920
No. Just as an expense.

1696
01:23:15,987 --> 01:23:17,722
just gave a lump sum number.

1697
01:23:18,062 --> 01:23:20,608
Well, and I'm sure because we do have
multiple events, it's not

1698
01:23:20,675 --> 01:23:22,303
one event.

1699
01:23:22,370 --> 01:23:26,203
Starting in January, we have our
speak easy, um

1700
01:23:26,270 --> 01:23:28,537
then we go into bread and butter, we
also have

1701
01:23:28,604 --> 01:23:30,372
the Barbie Girls lunch, which

1702
01:23:30,439 --> 01:23:31,769
we're looking on wanting to
convention.

1703
01:23:31,836 --> 01:23:34,023
to turn into a two-day event where we
have speakers that

1704
01:23:34,090 --> 01:23:36,646
actually come in, I'm going to the
one out in Santa Fe, New

1705
01:23:36,713 --> 01:23:38,232
Mexico.

1706
01:23:38,299 --> 01:23:39,778
So that'll put heads in beds.

1707
01:23:39,845 --> 01:23:43,518
Um of course we have um our Christmas
events, PJ's and

1708
01:23:43,585 --> 01:23:47,477
pancakes, we've got our festival of
trees and then we've got the

1709
01:23:47,544 --> 01:23:50,111
historical home tour. Okay, that
makes sense.

1710
01:23:50,178 --> 01:23:52,644
So it's not just for one event. It
covers all of our events for

1711
01:23:52,711 --> 01:23:54,768
the entire year.

1712
01:23:54,835 --> 01:23:57,292
Yeah, and those I went to that speak
easy event this year.

1713
01:23:57,359 --> 01:23:59,506
That was a good that was really good.
really fun of it.

1714
01:23:59,573 --> 01:24:02,478
It was filled out for our Barbie girl
luncheon at the depot.

1715
01:24:02,545 --> 01:24:03,378
Oh cool.

1716
01:24:03,445 --> 01:24:06,809
And a couple of the ladies that came,
um they're Barbie heads

1717
01:24:06,876 --> 01:24:09,731
and they have such a huge following
especially with the

1718
01:24:09,798 --> 01:24:11,108
the railroad and so

1719
01:24:11,175 --> 01:24:13,541
they invited me to go to Mexico to
this two-day convention out

1720
01:24:13,608 --> 01:24:15,018
there.

1721
01:24:15,085 --> 01:24:16,583
So I'm going this November.

1722
01:24:16,650 --> 01:24:19,785
So I can really glean from them and
learn and then bring that

1723
01:24:19,852 --> 01:24:22,289
back here because we have such a
great historical Santa Fe

1724
01:24:22,356 --> 01:24:25,617
Depot here. Right.

1725
01:24:25,876 --> 01:24:28,662
Okay. Now, now you explain that, that
makes sense to me. I'm good.

1726
01:24:28,729 --> 01:24:31,405
I'm going to ask Barry to clarify
something for the group

1727
01:24:31,472 --> 01:24:34,784
that I I know the answer because I
ask it.

1728
01:24:35,072 --> 01:24:40,122
So Barry, if if we if say we budget,
we got we we allocate

1729
01:24:40,189 --> 01:24:43,032
50 grand for an organization.

1730
01:24:43,939 --> 01:24:47,084
Those expenses are all reviewed for
compliance and let's say it

1731
01:24:47,151 --> 01:24:53,075
comes in and there's only 40,000 that
are truly compliant.

1732
01:24:53,235 --> 01:24:56,559
Well, that other 10 is not spent,
correct?

1733
01:24:56,626 --> 01:24:58,262
That is correct. They have to turn
in.

1734
01:24:58,329 --> 01:25:03,498
receipts and we have to verify what
they uh did with those funds,

1735
01:25:03,565 --> 01:25:06,420
and if it doesn't qualify, it doesn't
qualify.

1736
01:25:06,487 --> 01:25:09,440
We and we have turned down expenses.

1737
01:25:10,208 --> 01:25:12,455
Okay. So, with that statement,

1738
01:25:12,522 --> 01:25:15,766
artifact storage and preservation,
will that be?

1739
01:25:15,833 --> 01:25:20,563
Yep. Totally, that's that's one
that's that's one that's a one of the
things that they 100% allow,

1740
01:25:20,630 --> 01:25:24,720
and that is because of it's for
historic preservation.

1741
01:25:24,809 --> 01:25:28,649
But it's only for 15% of the total
budget.

1742
01:25:28,819 --> 01:25:33,859
So if we get them to if some of their
funding they show and turn in
receipts for

1743
01:25:33,926 --> 01:25:38,756
advertising, that has no limit.

1744
01:25:38,823 --> 01:25:42,882
And hence, when if they do that, then
there's no limit on the

1745
01:29:08,784 --> 01:29:10,350
I'm good on that program.

1746
01:29:10,417 --> 01:29:11,504
It's nice to see a reduction.

1747
01:29:11,571 --> 01:29:17,107
Well, it's also I thank you for being
here to tell us why your requests
are.

1748
01:29:17,174 --> 01:29:18,007
Makes sense.

1749
01:29:18,074 --> 01:29:18,907
We have to have the reduction.

1750
01:29:18,974 --> 01:29:20,210
Yep. I'm excited. I'm good with going
with

1751
01:29:20,277 --> 01:29:21,243
what they're proposing.

1752
01:29:21,310 --> 01:29:23,644
Okay, how about Downtown Gainesville
Alliance?

1753
01:29:25,991 --> 01:29:29,581
Basically, this organization set up
and they're advertising

1754
01:29:29,648 --> 01:29:30,481
downtown,

1755
01:29:30,548 --> 01:29:33,440
they hit individual businesses, but
it's really about getting

1756
01:29:33,507 --> 01:29:34,810
people in our downtown.

1757
01:29:34,877 --> 01:29:35,994
and showing our I guess lifestyle or
quality of life

1758
01:29:36,061 --> 01:29:37,391
downtown.

1759
01:29:59,605 --> 01:30:02,251
And this uh the funding

1760
01:30:02,318 --> 01:30:07,454
that was received for last year had
positive feedback.

1761
01:30:09,409 --> 01:30:15,915
Like the assuming that this is mostly
uh the same as last year,

1762
01:30:15,982 --> 01:30:19,154
the advertising worked.

1763
01:30:24,455 --> 01:30:25,784
Helena?

1764
01:30:26,071 --> 01:30:29,402
As in whether or not that their money
spent is working.

1765
01:30:29,801 --> 01:30:31,130
I mean,

1766
01:30:31,262 --> 01:30:32,095
How you doing?

1767
01:30:32,162 --> 01:30:33,823
I mean, it. It looks like it's
working.

1768
01:30:33,890 --> 01:30:37,474
So, but yeah, I mean, if you look at
their Margarita crawl for example,

1769
01:30:37,541 --> 01:30:40,925
they had a significant portion of
outside of the 50-mile radius,

1770
01:30:40,992 --> 01:30:43,378
and that's kind of what we've
established internally that that's
gonna be the policy

1771
01:30:43,445 --> 01:30:45,483
for hot funding advertising.

1772
01:30:45,550 --> 01:30:47,278
There were people everywhere on that
day.

1773
01:30:47,345 --> 01:30:48,178
Exactly.

1774
01:30:48,245 --> 01:30:51,010
And and they do a really good job of
just maintaining a constant presence

1775
01:30:51,077 --> 01:30:53,571
and collaborating with everybody.

1776
01:30:53,720 --> 01:30:54,711
They have their own website.

1777
01:30:54,778 --> 01:30:56,975
I guess the purpose of my question

1778
01:30:57,042 --> 01:30:57,875
We were still

1779
01:30:57,942 --> 01:31:03,390
with I'm totally cool with approving
the same requested as last year,

1780
01:31:03,457 --> 01:31:06,452
was it all successful enough to
justify an increase?

1781
01:31:06,519 --> 01:31:08,783
That's the basis of my question.

1782
01:31:09,729 --> 01:31:14,928
I would say that um, if I recall
correctly, they did itemize

1783
01:31:14,995 --> 01:31:17,651
their justifications.

1784
01:31:17,718 --> 01:31:21,348
And so, based on their track record,
I would

1785
01:31:24,134 --> 01:31:28,535
Is most of the increase in the social
media campaign, the the largest item

1786
01:31:28,602 --> 01:31:30,171
or is it just kind of divvied out?

1787
01:31:30,238 --> 01:31:31,188
Or all

1788
01:31:31,255 --> 01:31:34,570
I believe there was some decorations
and things for their events to kind
of make

1789
01:31:34,637 --> 01:31:37,562
the the aesthetics downtown kinda

1790
01:31:37,629 --> 01:31:41,229
boosted it up so that when people do
come visit, it's more

1791
01:31:43,244 --> 01:31:48,383
So what about an increase of uh
$5,000 council members, uh

1792
01:31:48,450 --> 01:31:52,031
going from 25 to 30?

1793
01:31:52,141 --> 01:31:54,876
So if we're asking people to tighten
their belts, they can tighten

1794
01:31:54,943 --> 01:31:57,200
their belts a little bit too on the
request.

1795
01:31:57,267 --> 01:32:00,838
I'm good with that. I'm good with 30
myself.

1796
01:32:00,998 --> 01:32:02,526
Anybody against that? Nope.

1797
01:32:02,593 --> 01:32:03,903
Okay.

1798
01:32:03,970 --> 01:32:10,476
Uh, then we have uh, the zoo, this is
a program that helps people sign up
for

1799
01:32:10,543 --> 01:32:14,293
conference registration.

1800
01:32:15,510 --> 01:32:17,963
We do this at least every other year.

1801
01:32:18,482 --> 01:32:19,781
The Wova app? Yep.

1802
01:32:19,848 --> 01:32:21,893
And personally,

1803
01:32:22,442 --> 01:32:28,296
We've done it for 10 plus years
without it, we can do it without it.

1804
01:32:28,665 --> 01:32:31,271
Or we do it, make it a little easier.

1805
01:32:31,338 --> 01:32:35,979
My thing is, if we do this, we need
to really start using this to try to
help

1806
01:32:36,046 --> 01:32:39,450
different people when they do have
conferences and stuff and let them

1807
01:32:39,517 --> 01:32:41,884
at least within the city because

1808
01:32:41,951 --> 01:32:44,527
we're looking at having, believe it
or not, we have water and sewer

1809
01:32:44,594 --> 01:32:47,207
workshops all the time.

1810
01:32:47,576 --> 01:32:49,334
And uh we have guys,

1811
01:32:49,401 --> 01:32:50,234
Sounds awesome.

1812
01:32:50,301 --> 01:32:51,134
Yeah.

1813
01:32:51,201 --> 01:32:56,290
We have guys that are they are
actually trainers that uh people they
they have

1814
01:32:56,357 --> 01:32:58,225
their licenses to train.

1815
01:32:58,292 --> 01:33:02,145
And then we allow them to use the
Civic Center for free and then our
guys come

1816
01:33:02,212 --> 01:33:06,840
in with people from all over the
state and go to these classes. So,

1817
01:33:07,269 --> 01:33:10,762
If you do it, I think we ought to
share it, if not, it is something we
could live

1818
01:33:10,829 --> 01:33:14,719
without, but it would like make life
easier on staff.

1819
01:33:14,799 --> 01:33:18,023
Is it possible to use this widget for
that purpose?

1820
01:33:18,090 --> 01:33:21,235
No. This is a sign up for a
conference.

1821
01:33:21,302 --> 01:33:26,980
This is, what am I doing this
weekend? I want to go to Gainesville

1822
01:33:27,047 --> 01:33:31,179
and I want to stay at this hotel,

1823
01:33:31,246 --> 01:33:33,254
what can I do when I'm there?

1824
01:33:33,321 --> 01:33:34,550
When I'm there.

1825
01:33:34,617 --> 01:33:38,669
And then it goes out and finds
everything and it also goes out to
internet

1826
01:33:38,736 --> 01:33:41,572
and everything and tries to do that.

1827
01:33:41,639 --> 01:33:44,105
But this is signing up for a
conference.

1828
01:33:44,172 --> 01:33:49,319
Which by the way, is a specific thing
written out that we can do.

1829
01:33:49,568 --> 01:33:53,937
Uh, this signing up for conferences,
registration for conferences.

1830
01:33:54,695 --> 01:33:58,647
Miss Susan seemed excited about it,
it's a small enough expenditure, I
support that.

1831
01:33:58,714 --> 01:33:59,547
I do too.

1832
01:33:59,614 --> 01:34:00,447
Yep.

1833
01:34:00,514 --> 01:34:03,479
And you're telling me it's mutually
beneficial, that's phenomenal.

1834
01:34:03,546 --> 01:34:04,875
It is.

1835
01:34:06,359 --> 01:34:07,192
Next.

1836
01:34:07,259 --> 01:34:12,069
Next is Frank Buck Zoo Auxiliary
Society and this is putting up some

1837
01:34:12,136 --> 01:34:18,213
artwork for like pictures and uh
doing things of that sort with

1838
01:34:18,280 --> 01:34:23,120
landscaping, benches, things where
people can get photographs with us.

1839
01:34:23,187 --> 01:34:26,618
They've spent a lot of money doing
improvements there, right, Lunette?

1840
01:34:26,898 --> 01:34:28,426
Uh, recently?

1841
01:34:28,493 --> 01:34:29,753
Yes. Yes.

1842
01:34:29,820 --> 01:34:32,523
We've we've done a lot of
improvements there.

1843
01:34:32,692 --> 01:34:35,618
This would help improve those those
enhancements, right?

1844
01:34:35,685 --> 01:34:36,518
This is

1845
01:34:36,585 --> 01:34:37,418
Yeah.

1846
01:34:37,485 --> 01:34:41,467
It would be uh the area that we're
speaking of is directly across from

1847
01:34:41,534 --> 01:34:45,826
the um Flamingo area.

1848
01:34:45,893 --> 01:34:46,913
Yes.

1849
01:34:46,980 --> 01:34:53,962
And uh more so the there's an aviary
where the two cans are.

1850
01:34:54,351 --> 01:34:59,827
And that area is kind of been a
butterfly or pollinator garden.

1851
01:35:00,542 --> 01:35:02,968
so it would just enhance it with some
carvings of

1852
01:35:03,035 --> 01:35:07,075
uh animals and that sort of thing so
that

1853
01:35:07,972 --> 01:35:10,499
people have a good place to get their
picture made. Yeah.

1854
01:35:10,566 --> 01:35:12,613
And that markets us.

1855
01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:15,894
Because those get put on Facebook and
everybody wants their

1856
01:35:15,961 --> 01:35:20,270
kid to be recognized. So.

1857
01:35:20,616 --> 01:35:23,412
I I can tell you there's some stuff
on here that do not qualify.

1858
01:35:23,479 --> 01:35:24,312
Okay.

1859
01:35:24,379 --> 01:35:25,212
Uh,

1860
01:35:25,279 --> 01:35:30,907
you cannot do landscaping, labor,
planting, the bench, uh the
installation of donor plex.

1861
01:35:30,974 --> 01:35:31,984
You can't do benches.

1862
01:35:32,051 --> 01:35:37,886
Even if it falls within the
guidelines of the guide and gain tool
benches?

1863
01:35:39,582 --> 01:35:42,158
The guide and gain has nothing to do
with the state.

1864
01:35:42,225 --> 01:35:44,289
So where are they supposed to sit to
get their pictures?

1865
01:35:44,479 --> 01:35:48,352
Uh, but you can do artwork, you can
do uh as long as that

1866
01:35:48,419 --> 01:35:51,344
donor displays are the things like
from Frank Buck and it's

1867
01:35:51,411 --> 01:35:53,907
historic type things, you can do
that.

1868
01:35:53,974 --> 01:35:56,530
But you cannot do the plaques, you
cannot do the benches and

1869
01:35:56,597 --> 01:35:58,994
you cannot do the landscaping.

1870
01:35:59,061 --> 01:35:59,931
So what's that apply?

1871
01:35:59,998 --> 01:36:03,323
When we move the historic plaques,
Barry?

1872
01:36:03,390 --> 01:36:04,223
7500.

1873
01:36:04,290 --> 01:36:08,551
If they're in there historically
since the beginning of the zoo, they
may not be moved.

1874
01:36:08,618 --> 01:36:09,451
Yeah, if they could just stay.

1875
01:36:09,518 --> 01:36:10,736
in the

1876
01:36:10,803 --> 01:36:12,970
Said he couldn't.

1877
01:36:13,037 --> 01:36:17,239
Historic preservation, you'd have to
really look at that are they really
historic.

1878
01:36:17,306 --> 01:36:18,586
And so

1879
01:36:18,653 --> 01:36:21,438
I'm just what that. Okay.

1880
01:36:21,505 --> 01:36:24,620
And I don't want to speak for other
council members but I'd

1881
01:36:24,687 --> 01:36:27,562
absolutely want to uh support the
zoological society.

1882
01:36:27,629 --> 01:36:30,804
in one way, so uh Mrs. Pedigrew and
uh

1883
01:36:30,871 --> 01:36:33,995
I believe the staff with the city
would be glad to sit down

1884
01:36:34,062 --> 01:36:37,087
with you and and really discuss in
detail how the city would be

1885
01:36:37,154 --> 01:36:38,633
able to support you in one way or
another.

1886
01:36:38,700 --> 01:36:39,800
I prefer that.

1887
01:36:39,867 --> 01:36:42,603
And we make sure. Because the zoo
brings in a lot of people.

1888
01:36:42,670 --> 01:36:43,503
100.

1889
01:36:43,570 --> 01:36:45,088
bus loads, you know.

1890
01:36:45,155 --> 01:36:49,697
So I think it would be a great thing
for us to do as well.

1891
01:36:50,692 --> 01:36:52,789
It's just work the specifics.

1892
01:36:52,856 --> 01:36:53,689
Yes, specifics.

1893
01:36:53,756 --> 01:36:54,589
Yeah.

1894
01:36:54,656 --> 01:36:57,690
We'll do a meeting and see how we
can.

1895
01:36:57,757 --> 01:37:00,065
So is the number 7,500 on that?

1896
01:37:00,290 --> 01:37:02,647
So I uh get it to 8,500.

1897
01:37:02,714 --> 01:37:03,973
No, 8,000.

1898
01:37:04,040 --> 01:37:05,579
Could we approve 8,500?

1899
01:37:05,646 --> 01:37:08,990
We'd have to take those off if they,
those two don't meet the require.

1900
01:37:09,057 --> 01:37:09,890
If they don't meet the criteria.

1901
01:37:09,957 --> 01:37:12,955
we can uh subtract it and then we can
maybe work something out.

1902
01:37:13,022 --> 01:37:15,329
Could we approve a $10,000 uh

1903
01:37:15,396 --> 01:37:17,782
Right now from what they have here,
9,000 because

1904
01:37:17,849 --> 01:37:21,472
the carved wooden creatures and the
uh prep for

1905
01:37:21,539 --> 01:37:25,233
donor displays.

1906
01:37:25,300 --> 01:37:26,499
Let's approve 10,000.

1907
01:37:26,566 --> 01:37:27,956
Just call it up to 10,000.

1908
01:37:28,023 --> 01:37:28,933
Yes.

1909
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:31,047
And whatever qualifies and then
whatever we can turn

1910
01:37:31,114 --> 01:37:32,643
a valid out of it, we approved.

1911
01:37:32,710 --> 01:37:34,040
Yep. Okay.

1912
01:37:37,219 --> 01:37:43,446
Okay, we have Chamber asking for
Depot days and summer sounds that's
brand new.

1913
01:37:46,695 --> 01:37:49,700
Does this not normally fall within
the organizational

1914
01:37:49,767 --> 01:37:53,102
number, the 106,000?

1915
01:37:53,577 --> 01:37:56,013
I mean, how is this normally
advertised?

1916
01:37:56,080 --> 01:37:57,080
This is new.

1917
01:37:57,147 --> 01:37:59,226
Because we've been

1918
01:37:59,481 --> 01:38:01,051
I don't know.

1919
01:38:04,349 --> 01:38:06,187
I mean, those are very successful.

1920
01:38:06,254 --> 01:38:07,583
Yeah.

1921
01:38:08,538 --> 01:38:11,144
Uh is this gonna have them help
enhance those?

1922
01:38:11,211 --> 01:38:13,569
Is that what this is request is?

1923
01:38:14,013 --> 01:38:17,028
And those were phenomenal
spreadsheets she or uh

1924
01:38:17,095 --> 01:38:19,402
presentation she provided.

1925
01:38:19,469 --> 01:38:23,122
Yeah, I guess that that's my only
question is

1926
01:38:23,189 --> 01:38:26,374
Depot days been going on for forever.

1927
01:38:26,441 --> 01:38:27,770
Forever.

1928
01:38:30,803 --> 01:38:32,990
Do we know where they got the
funding, I mean

1929
01:38:33,057 --> 01:38:35,583
those are both current events. Where
are they getting

1930
01:38:35,650 --> 01:38:38,477
the funding for this year's Depot Day
already?

1931
01:38:40,447 --> 01:38:41,329
Yeah.

1932
01:38:41,396 --> 01:38:42,535
Uh

1933
01:38:42,602 --> 01:38:43,762
I I

1934
01:38:43,829 --> 01:38:44,759
I'll speak to one of them.

1935
01:38:44,826 --> 01:38:48,391
Unless you don't say you don't hear
me.

1936
01:38:48,980 --> 01:38:49,813
Okay.

1937
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:53,517
So I'm gonna tell you just what I
know for a fact, that what was said
to me.

1938
01:38:53,673 --> 01:38:56,729
So I met with Matt Carlson on last
Friday.

1939
01:38:57,164 --> 01:38:59,421
And this subject came up because I we
got to

1940
01:38:59,488 --> 01:39:01,686
talking about hot funds a little bit.

1941
01:39:01,951 --> 01:39:05,006
And he told me that the EDC has
formally funded this to

1942
01:39:05,073 --> 01:39:09,505
summer sounds program.

1943
01:39:09,900 --> 01:39:14,393
And there's evidently been a decision
made to change that process.

1944
01:39:14,768 --> 01:39:17,265
I'm not on that board, I have no
clue.

1945
01:39:17,431 --> 01:39:19,259
And I know our mayor sets in.

1946
01:39:19,326 --> 01:39:23,639
But anyway, and so I think that's how
it showed up on our list.

1947
01:39:26,157 --> 01:39:26,990
Summer sounds, Tommy.

1948
01:39:27,057 --> 01:39:30,779
It wasn't completely, wasn't it also
private donations also?

1949
01:39:30,846 --> 01:39:31,686
Oh yeah, that

1950
01:39:31,753 --> 01:39:33,043
I mean there's donations too.

1951
01:39:33,110 --> 01:39:35,019
Right. A lot of sponsorships.

1952
01:39:39,044 --> 01:39:42,079
But you're saying you're saying Matt
said that they're not gonna support
it?

1953
01:39:42,146 --> 01:39:43,476
That's what he said to me.

1954
01:39:43,771 --> 01:39:44,604
So,

1955
01:39:44,671 --> 01:39:45,504
Cuz I said something about it

1956
01:39:45,571 --> 01:39:46,404
I haven't heard that.

1957
01:39:46,471 --> 01:39:47,749
I said something about it being on
the list.

1958
01:39:47,816 --> 01:39:48,649
Yeah.

1959
01:39:48,716 --> 01:39:50,986
And so I just took him at face value,
that's what he said to me.

1960
01:39:51,053 --> 01:39:52,512
Of course, yeah, yeah.

1961
01:39:52,579 --> 01:39:55,366
I mean, I believe me, I trust Matt.
He's a good guy.

1962
01:39:55,433 --> 01:39:56,266
No, I don't know.

1963
01:39:56,333 --> 01:39:58,878
And so that cuz I was trying to
figure out why, how did

1964
01:39:58,945 --> 01:40:01,309
this appear on here all of a sudden.

1965
01:40:01,554 --> 01:40:03,551
the city not been doing this.

1966
01:40:03,618 --> 01:40:07,481
Well obviously not, or it wouldn't
be. No, you know.

1967
01:40:07,548 --> 01:40:08,867
advertising.

1968
01:40:08,934 --> 01:40:10,822
I think it's a great program. Yeah.

1969
01:40:10,889 --> 01:40:15,041
I kind of I keep defaulting back to
heads and beds.

1970
01:40:15,108 --> 01:40:16,348
Right. Okay.

1971
01:40:16,415 --> 01:40:18,821
I think they're great tourist
programs. Yep.

1972
01:40:18,888 --> 01:40:21,215
But how do we measure because I look
again,

1973
01:40:21,282 --> 01:40:25,421
I look at return on the our
investment. Sure.

1974
01:40:25,571 --> 01:40:30,438
And so how do we how do we measure
back to what Mike said earlier that

1975
01:40:30,897 --> 01:40:32,934
there are people from out of town
coming and spending the night

1976
01:40:33,001 --> 01:40:35,498
to come to that Summer House program.

1977
01:40:35,565 --> 01:40:38,121
I believe there probably some are. Oh
yeah, I do too.

1978
01:40:38,188 --> 01:40:39,883
But what is the value to that?

1979
01:40:39,963 --> 01:40:42,150
Okay, here's a reach. Okay.

1980
01:40:42,217 --> 01:40:43,753
In today's computers.

1981
01:40:44,392 --> 01:40:48,990
Is it possible like Depot Day
specific, these are specific days?

1982
01:40:49,069 --> 01:40:55,652
Can we see occupancy/taxes paid on
that day more than the prior weekend?

1983
01:40:56,311 --> 01:40:59,276
You follow what I'm saying? If
there's a 20% increase in occupancy
only

1984
01:40:59,343 --> 01:41:01,679
on the Depot Day, the weekend before
and after,

1985
01:41:01,746 --> 01:41:04,223
we're at a certain rate.

1986
01:41:04,290 --> 01:41:05,400
Because they collect it and pay it to
the state.

1987
01:41:05,467 --> 01:41:06,467
I don't think we can see that.

1988
01:41:06,534 --> 01:41:08,399
No, we can't see that. We can't see
that.

1989
01:41:08,549 --> 01:41:11,982
But what you what you can see is
Place AI, and I think they have

1990
01:41:12,049 --> 01:41:15,354
Place AI.

1991
01:41:15,421 --> 01:41:17,448
And you know, a lot of this, these
items are starting to

1992
01:41:17,515 --> 01:41:19,942
catch up with these organizations

1993
01:41:20,009 --> 01:41:23,133
as far as the technology to actually
do that.

1994
01:41:23,200 --> 01:41:26,205
And we're starting to catch up where
the organizations and the

1995
01:41:26,272 --> 01:41:29,028
technology together are.

1996
01:41:29,095 --> 01:41:32,469
And I don't know if they have that
Maybe next year.

1997
01:41:32,536 --> 01:41:35,710
items now, but maybe next year for
some of their stuff.

1998
01:41:35,777 --> 01:41:39,112
And I think that's what we are hoping
to get more and more into

1999
01:41:39,179 --> 01:41:42,692
using Place AI and different

2000
01:41:42,759 --> 01:41:45,662
technology that shows

2001
01:41:45,781 --> 01:41:49,232
people are staying or people are not
staying.

2002
01:41:49,512 --> 01:41:51,855
You know, coming and going to these
events.

2003
01:41:53,421 --> 01:41:55,695
That's three for shows.

2004
01:41:56,633 --> 01:42:02,089
So when they have to pay for talent,
and if they're losing funding from
the

2005
01:42:02,238 --> 01:42:03,787
EDC, then that's not a big ass.

2006
01:42:03,854 --> 01:42:06,028
It's not a big ass. I agree.

2007
01:42:06,248 --> 01:42:08,644
Uh, let's go. With both of them?
Yeah.

2008
01:42:08,711 --> 01:42:12,551
And and how about the uh 106 that
they've been getting for years?

2009
01:42:12,900 --> 01:42:14,250
I'm taking it that's all.

2010
01:42:14,317 --> 01:42:15,437
It's the same thing they got last
year.

2011
01:42:15,504 --> 01:42:16,743
Yep. Yep. Boom.

2012
01:42:16,810 --> 01:42:18,266
Okay. Okay.

2013
01:42:18,376 --> 01:42:20,830
Uh, the neighborhood 5K walk.

2014
01:42:20,969 --> 01:42:22,595
Love it. Yeah.

2015
01:42:24,081 --> 01:42:26,787
The mobile app, this mobile app was
created. It's about to be

2016
01:42:26,854 --> 01:42:30,325
released. They started getting
funding for it this year.

2017
01:42:30,824 --> 01:42:34,557
Uh, they've got the app, it's almost
ready or for debut.

2018
01:42:34,624 --> 01:42:38,058
And this is the continuation cost
because you do have to continue to

2019
01:42:38,125 --> 01:42:40,429
pay costs for a lot of that.

2020
01:42:40,508 --> 01:42:43,852
And then this is actually for four
years. This is not just one year.

2021
01:42:43,919 --> 01:42:47,473
This covers four years of Oh, really?
of the website and all that stuff.

2022
01:42:47,540 --> 01:42:49,328
I'm all for it. Yep.

2023
01:42:49,395 --> 01:42:52,400
And basically, this is in the uh
Guiding Gainsville specifically,

2024
01:42:52,467 --> 01:42:54,904
they said we need to get this.

2025
01:42:54,971 --> 01:42:56,427
Cool. Thank you.

2026
01:42:56,576 --> 01:42:59,611
Uh, Metal of Honor Host City program.

2027
01:42:59,678 --> 01:43:03,352
Uh, for I wanted to understand they
lost a major sponsor.

2028
01:43:03,419 --> 01:43:06,483
And so they've been able to handle
stuff on the outside without this

2029
01:43:06,550 --> 01:43:08,977
because they've been had a larger
sponsor.

2030
01:43:09,044 --> 01:43:12,159
Is this your airfare? And then this
would come in for this.

2031
01:43:12,226 --> 01:43:14,961
I can tell you this organization does
cuz they guarantee blocks of

2032
01:43:15,028 --> 01:43:16,903
rooms and they rent blocks of rooms.

2033
01:43:16,993 --> 01:43:19,018
I'm good with the 75,000.

2034
01:43:19,556 --> 01:43:22,638
Actually 90. Isn't it? Oh, it's

2035
01:43:23,067 --> 01:43:27,984
On the application, it's 75, but on
here, it's 90.

2036
01:43:28,214 --> 01:43:30,959
90 to typo. I may just be a typo
combined.

2037
01:43:31,026 --> 01:43:32,186
No, it's 90.

2038
01:43:32,253 --> 01:43:33,613
So what is the number?

2039
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:36,006
Yeah, what do you what do you want?
What's the real number?

2040
01:43:36,073 --> 01:43:40,741
75 and 20 26 is requested amount
equal 90.

2041
01:43:40,901 --> 01:43:42,060
Cuz I don't

2042
01:43:42,127 --> 01:43:45,182
Does that what the money is that what
is that what those lines add up to?

2043
01:43:45,249 --> 01:43:47,008
Yeah, Jamie went back and added it
out.

2044
01:43:47,075 --> 01:43:50,067
So it is 90, okay. It's a typo on my
part.

2045
01:43:50,715 --> 01:43:54,508
And even if this weren't a perpetual
thing, I'd be okay with it,

2046
01:43:54,575 --> 01:43:57,829
but uh with this being the American
Airlines deal

2047
01:43:57,896 --> 01:44:01,188
that was um explained to us, you
know.

2048
01:44:01,467 --> 01:44:03,335
they could get a new sponsor next
year.

2049
01:44:03,402 --> 01:44:05,878
American Airlines can get back in the
game so

2050
01:44:05,945 --> 01:44:08,242
I'll tell you this, we're still
working on getting a sponsor them

2051
01:44:08,309 --> 01:44:11,743
back. And then we won't need the
money.

2052
01:44:11,810 --> 01:44:13,139
Okay.

2053
01:44:13,326 --> 01:44:14,655
Up to 90.

2054
01:44:14,922 --> 01:44:16,530
Up to 90, yes. Yeah.

2055
01:44:16,597 --> 01:44:19,789
But we will have to provide receipts
so keep that in mind.

2056
01:44:19,889 --> 01:44:22,854
My opinion is this is our community.

2057
01:44:22,921 --> 01:44:25,906
If we don't support this, shame on
us.

2058
01:44:25,973 --> 01:44:28,170
And if there's anything on this list
that does put heads in beds,

2059
01:44:28,237 --> 01:44:29,935
it's this thing.

2060
01:44:30,002 --> 01:44:31,788
Yes. Absolutely.

2061
01:44:31,957 --> 01:44:32,848
Okay. Thank you.

2062
01:44:32,915 --> 01:44:35,142
Okay. they don't even have to serve
alcohol.

2063
01:44:35,209 --> 01:44:39,979
Wine Association, uh, the the
festival, the Wine Festival.

2064
01:44:40,046 --> 01:44:43,836
They've asked for 6,000 more. $6,000.

2065
01:44:44,694 --> 01:44:48,477
That's that's been a successful. It's
been a successful program.

2066
01:44:48,544 --> 01:44:50,492
Our city is the gateway to the wine
trail.

2067
01:44:50,559 --> 01:44:53,624
I think this is part of our identity
and something that we're trying to
grow.

2068
01:44:53,691 --> 01:44:54,890
Right.

2069
01:44:54,957 --> 01:44:58,358
And then it's the same, same for the
wine trail. Yep.

2070
01:44:58,668 --> 01:45:00,553
And then uh, Lang

2071
01:45:00,772 --> 01:45:02,328
caster manor.

2072
01:45:03,266 --> 01:45:09,033
And with that, I believe there is
some legal questions about that that
our attorney had some concerns.

2073
01:45:09,100 --> 01:45:09,933
Right.

2074
01:45:10,000 --> 01:45:14,718
That it's more supporting of a
private business even though it does
advertise it does that.

2075
01:45:14,877 --> 01:45:15,808
And then there's also

2076
01:45:15,875 --> 01:45:16,735
We love you.

2077
01:45:16,802 --> 01:45:17,693
I know.

2078
01:45:17,760 --> 01:45:19,797
And then there's also concerns that.

2079
01:45:19,864 --> 01:45:26,846
Then every single hotel in town would
come and say you need to pay for all
of our advertising.

2080
01:45:28,073 --> 01:45:32,185
So, is is is this a rebuild of your
website?

2081
01:45:32,252 --> 01:45:33,581
Okay.

2082
01:45:34,546 --> 01:45:35,932
My answer is no.

2083
01:45:36,349 --> 01:45:37,182
Yes.

2084
01:45:37,249 --> 01:45:39,244
I can't agree to the

2085
01:45:39,373 --> 01:45:40,473
Because of the legal issue.

2086
01:45:40,540 --> 01:45:41,959
Yeah, the legal part.

2087
01:45:42,026 --> 01:45:44,562
Yeah, because we have to do it for
all of them.

2088
01:45:44,629 --> 01:45:45,480
Yeah.

2089
01:45:45,547 --> 01:45:46,687
Sorry.

2090
01:45:46,754 --> 01:45:48,140
No, I understand.

2091
01:45:48,358 --> 01:45:49,191
So

2092
01:45:49,258 --> 01:45:50,178
It's not personal.

2093
01:45:50,245 --> 01:45:52,848
But thanks. Thank you for taking a
stab at it though.

2094
01:45:53,107 --> 01:45:54,962
We got to try, right?

2095
01:45:55,319 --> 01:45:56,152
So we

2096
01:45:56,219 --> 01:45:58,346
I'm the only one in the room that
pays in.

2097
01:45:58,413 --> 01:45:59,663
So,

2098
01:45:59,730 --> 01:46:00,571
So everyone

2099
01:46:00,638 --> 01:46:02,323
[laughter] I I opinion.

2100
01:46:02,583 --> 01:46:04,281
Everyone on council is once

2101
01:46:04,348 --> 01:46:05,694
I've a short term memory.

2102
01:46:05,924 --> 01:46:10,622
Everyone on council supports the
increase for the GWCF.

2103
01:46:10,959 --> 01:46:11,792
We did.

2104
01:46:11,859 --> 01:46:13,098
Yes, we did.

2105
01:46:13,165 --> 01:46:15,100
Barry, are you keeping a running
total?

2106
01:46:15,224 --> 01:46:16,057
Yeah, I

2107
01:46:16,124 --> 01:46:16,957
No.

2108
01:46:17,024 --> 01:46:18,306
I'm asking too much.

2109
01:46:18,373 --> 01:46:24,311
I don't have a running total. I just
wrote down what they have and then
I'm going to go back and I'm going to
put it in the budget.

2110
01:46:24,378 --> 01:46:29,397
Did we did we come to a conclusion on
the Gainsville Grand American
birthday bash?

2111
01:46:29,464 --> 01:46:30,297
Oh, yeah.

2112
01:46:30,364 --> 01:46:31,197
No.

2113
01:46:31,264 --> 01:46:32,989
I don't think we did.

2114
01:46:33,189 --> 01:46:34,348
Sorry.

2115
01:46:34,415 --> 01:46:36,769
So based upon include fireworks.

2116
01:46:37,118 --> 01:46:39,016
Figure you gave does not include
fireworks.

2117
01:46:39,083 --> 01:46:42,026
Correct. It's 53,500.

2118
01:46:42,464 --> 01:46:43,664
Yeah.

2119
01:46:43,731 --> 01:46:47,903
So we need a we need sponsors and or
alternative funding.

2120
01:46:47,970 --> 01:46:49,300
Correct.

2121
01:46:49,715 --> 01:46:55,034
But staff, while we will miss the
event, if you do decide not to fund
it, we also will understand.

2122
01:46:55,101 --> 01:46:55,934
Yeah.

2123
01:46:56,001 --> 01:46:57,141
So, you know, no hard feeling.

2124
01:46:57,208 --> 01:46:59,565
I'm just wondering if we made enough
cuts to

2125
01:46:59,632 --> 01:47:00,682
That's what I want to know.

2126
01:47:00,749 --> 01:47:01,908
Allow it.

2127
01:47:01,975 --> 01:47:03,305
Yeah.

2128
01:47:03,940 --> 01:47:07,733
Can you get a subtotal tomorrow and
let us know or email it out?

2129
01:47:07,800 --> 01:47:10,344
Yeah, this is all still discussion.

2130
01:47:10,423 --> 01:47:16,630
Yeah, this is discussion. This is
this is discussion. This is this is
so I can just generally have an idea
what to put in the budget. The vote's
going to come at the next meeting.

2131
01:47:16,697 --> 01:47:17,530
Okay.

2132
01:47:17,597 --> 01:47:20,904
It would be very helpful to know
what's the balance left in the
account.

2133
01:47:20,971 --> 01:47:21,804
Right.

2134
01:47:21,871 --> 01:47:25,178
And and this is not personal against
staff, but, you know, that's a big
expense.

2135
01:47:25,245 --> 01:47:26,078
Oh, no.

2136
01:47:26,145 --> 01:47:26,978
So we

2137
01:47:27,045 --> 01:47:32,015
It's a lot of work. I can tell you
there's a lot of people will be happy
if it does

2138
01:47:32,082 --> 01:47:34,518
[laughter] that one right there.

2139
01:47:34,585 --> 01:47:36,929
the mastermind behind it.

2140
01:47:37,179 --> 01:47:39,785
It was it was phenomenal. Y'all did
an outstanding job.

2141
01:47:39,852 --> 01:47:40,722
outstanding job.

2142
01:47:40,789 --> 01:47:45,569
So for staff and everybody that's
taking it out, thank you for going
through through that exercise with
us.

2143
01:47:45,636 --> 01:47:49,489
We want to do what's right for
Gainsville and our partners, so.

2144
01:47:49,556 --> 01:47:50,389
All right.

2145
01:47:50,456 --> 01:47:52,084
Uh, can we can can we move on?

2146
01:47:52,151 --> 01:47:52,984
Yes.

2147
01:47:53,051 --> 01:47:53,884
Okay.

2148
01:47:53,951 --> 01:48:00,933
Item G consideration action on a
resolution authorizing the city
manager to sign a change order number
two with ESCO incorporated for the
BNSF utility relocation project.

2149
01:48:05,650 --> 01:48:08,645
Man, if you need that loan to buy
some ice cream, caller.

2150
01:48:08,712 --> 01:48:10,138
[laughter]

2151
01:48:10,508 --> 01:48:12,442
Right now it doesn't seem like a bad
idea.

2152
01:48:12,509 --> 01:48:14,530
But I would have I would have bought
two ice creams.

2153
01:48:14,597 --> 01:48:16,143
[laughter]

2154
01:48:16,751 --> 01:48:18,480
I'm holding strong to the extortion.

2155
01:48:18,547 --> 01:48:19,380
[laughter]

2156
01:48:19,773 --> 01:48:22,359
But I'm here tonight to request hot
phones for this project.

2157
01:48:22,426 --> 01:48:25,179
[laughter]

2158
01:48:25,419 --> 01:48:29,800
And if you want to hear the way, if
you want to hear the way, if you want
to hear the way I can get this one
back to tourism, I've got it all
figured out.

2159
01:48:29,867 --> 01:48:30,757
[laughter]

2160
01:48:30,824 --> 01:48:32,004
Are you renting a hotel tonight?

2161
01:48:32,071 --> 01:48:32,904
No.

2162
01:48:32,971 --> 01:48:34,283
I'm already capped out.

2163
01:48:34,350 --> 01:48:35,183
Um,

2164
01:48:35,250 --> 01:48:37,208
The work crews are going to stay in
hotels, right?

2165
01:48:37,275 --> 01:48:38,108
Right.

2166
01:48:38,175 --> 01:48:39,008
There you go.

2167
01:48:39,075 --> 01:48:46,057
And this is a it's underneath BNSF,
which which uh the Hartland flyer
runs on, which we obviously know
drives tourism and and so that's the
stretch, but.

2168
01:48:46,174 --> 01:48:47,007
Wow.

2169
01:48:47,074 --> 01:48:48,523
He's had a lot of time to think about
this.

2170
01:48:48,590 --> 01:48:49,481
A little bit.

2171
01:48:49,548 --> 01:48:50,381
Okay.

2172
01:48:50,448 --> 01:48:51,528
All jokes aside.

2173
01:48:51,595 --> 01:48:58,577
This is change order number two for
ESCO for the BNSF utility relocations
and during the bore up on 1202, we
run into what we believe is just a
pile of BNSF debris that was buried,
who knows when. I have no idea.

2174
01:49:05,688 --> 01:49:06,758
We can't bore through it.

2175
01:49:06,825 --> 01:49:12,344
So we have to pull out. We've lost
our casing, essentially we have to we
have to go deeper and try to get
underneath it.

2176
01:49:12,411 --> 01:49:13,244
Um.

2177
01:49:13,311 --> 01:49:17,113
So this is a change order for uh a
little over $51,000.

2178
01:49:17,180 --> 01:49:20,465
Staff has reviewed this, engineers
have reviewed it.

2179
01:49:20,532 --> 01:49:21,365
We all recommend approval.

2180
01:49:21,432 --> 01:49:26,076
And I would appreciate your
consideration tonight and happy to
answer any questions.

2181
01:49:26,143 --> 01:49:27,473
Thank you, sir.

2182
01:49:27,549 --> 01:49:28,879
Any questions?

2183
01:49:30,282 --> 01:49:31,781
All right, entertain a motion.

2184
01:49:31,848 --> 01:49:32,798
I'll make a motion to approve.

2185
01:49:32,865 --> 01:49:33,698
Motion to approve.

2186
01:49:33,765 --> 01:49:34,598
I'll second it.

2187
01:49:34,665 --> 01:49:35,795
Second.

2188
01:49:35,862 --> 01:49:39,096
All those in favor signify by saying
I.

2189
01:49:39,163 --> 01:49:40,014
All those opposed same sign.

2190
01:49:40,081 --> 01:49:42,205
Motion passed unanimously.

2191
01:49:42,444 --> 01:49:43,335
Thanks, Alan.

2192
01:49:43,402 --> 01:49:44,263
Thank you.

2193
01:49:44,330 --> 01:49:47,035
All right. It is 8:18.

2194
01:49:47,102 --> 01:49:54,084
Uh, we are going to go into executive
session under Government Code,
Chapter 551 to discuss economic
development.

2195
01:50:05,454 --> 01:50:19,418
[crowd]

2196
01:50:19,617 --> 01:50:24,438
[chatter] Hey hey Tommy, got me and
my partner here.

2197
01:50:24,505 --> 01:50:25,701
[crowd]

2198
01:50:26,559 --> 01:50:30,023
All right, it's 8:37 p.m. We come out
of executive session

2199
01:50:30,090 --> 01:50:33,122
with no action to be taken. Uh,
meeting adjourned.

2200
01:50:33,581 --> 01:50:34,414
Thank you.