1 00:00:06,550 --> 00:00:08,570 [music] 2 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:25,039 It's 6:00. We going to start our uh city council meeting for 3 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:30,599 July 20th, 2026. We're going to stand for invocation and remain standing for 4 00:00:27,119 --> 00:00:30,599 the pledge of allegiance. 5 00:00:32,095 --> 00:00:36,640 » [clears throat] >> Let us pray. Heavenly Father, we come 6 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:40,000 this afternoon in the most ominous manner that we know how. Father God, 7 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:43,200 thanking you for all thank thanking you for the last night lying down this 8 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:46,559 morning. You so graciously allowed us to rise. You brought us out to the city to 9 00:00:45,280 --> 00:00:50,079 take care of the business of the city this afternoon. We ask you to lead us 10 00:00:48,559 --> 00:00:53,520 and guide us in the way that you would have us to go. It's these blessings and 11 00:00:51,920 --> 00:00:56,640 all blessings we ask in Jesus Christ tonight. Amen. 12 00:00:54,640 --> 00:01:01,920 » Amen. I pledge algiance to the flag of the 13 00:00:59,359 --> 00:01:08,320 United States of America and to the republic for which it stands. One nation 14 00:01:05,199 --> 00:01:11,799 under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. 15 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,600 » Roll call, please. >> Mayor Campbell, 16 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,520 » here. >> Council member Bruner, 17 00:01:16,960 --> 00:01:19,360 » here. >> Council member Figuel, 18 00:01:18,720 --> 00:01:21,040 » here. >> Council member Hall, 19 00:01:20,400 --> 00:01:22,960 » here. >> Council member Lacer, 20 00:01:22,320 --> 00:01:27,115 » present. >> Council member Mars, 21 00:01:24,159 --> 00:01:29,200 » present. and council member Ruez. [clears throat] 22 00:01:27,280 --> 00:01:34,720 » Now I'm going to open up the floor for anyone who want to come up and speak for 23 00:01:31,680 --> 00:01:39,360 three minutes. Not on property tax, just want to speak on anything. I give you 24 00:01:37,119 --> 00:01:42,360 three minutes. Anyone want to come forward? 25 00:01:44,320 --> 00:01:48,799 » No one move. Sir, close this part. >> Oh, he was about to get [clears throat] 26 00:01:48,159 --> 00:01:51,520 up, sir. >> Huh? 27 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:54,880 » About to get up. Can you state state your name and your 28 00:01:53,520 --> 00:02:01,399 address, please, ma'am? >> My name is Linda Treywick. I live at 207 29 00:01:58,079 --> 00:02:01,399 Main Street 30 00:02:02,479 --> 00:02:08,399 » in Garden City. >> Yes, ma'am. Okay. 31 00:02:05,439 --> 00:02:16,720 » All right. Mr. Mayor, when you first came into 32 00:02:11,440 --> 00:02:24,160 office, your salary was $800 a month. And then you raised it in 24 33 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:28,239 to $15,600 a month. That's just for you. That's not 34 00:02:26,319 --> 00:02:36,080 for everybody else. All of your raises went up, too. So 35 00:02:31,760 --> 00:02:41,640 now you're discussing the possibility of raising your pay again. 36 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:46,760 Your vision says that thriving 37 00:02:48,560 --> 00:02:53,560 said a Can you read my own writing? 38 00:02:53,680 --> 00:03:03,280 a thriving community set on continual improving the community's quality of 39 00:03:01,599 --> 00:03:11,040 life. I don't see that not for 88%. 40 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:17,040 So here's the thing. You have 41 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:25,040 average one to two hours every two weeks per month. 42 00:03:20,959 --> 00:03:28,519 very rarely over that. That averages out to $325 43 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:36,000 for you. And I don't get it. So now you're 44 00:03:33,680 --> 00:03:39,440 raising our taxes and we can't even afford to pay taxes. 45 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:43,280 » Anything but taxes, ma'am. You know, you can talk about anything but taxes. 46 00:03:41,519 --> 00:03:47,120 » That's what I'm here for. Is this >> Well, it's not that time yet. That's why 47 00:03:45,360 --> 00:03:52,879 that's why I say I'm giving anybody 3 minutes to speak but not on anything 48 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:55,920 except taxes for right now. >> Well, we going to get to the taxes part. 49 00:03:55,040 --> 00:04:00,080 » I'm sure. >> Okay. Anybody else want to get up and 50 00:03:58,159 --> 00:04:04,400 speak for three minutes on anything other than taxes? 51 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:07,680 Okay. Well, we're going to close that part. 52 00:04:06,282 --> 00:04:13,920 [clears throat] Okay. And now we got three public hearings and that's on a 53 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:22,800 military receive a public comments for the mayor and council to intensively set 54 00:04:18,479 --> 00:04:29,160 the Avalorin tax rate. Now anyone want to get up and speak on taxes? Now you 55 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:29,160 got three minutes to come up and speak. 56 00:04:33,840 --> 00:04:39,400 Okay, you've already heard everything I got to say except 57 00:04:39,759 --> 00:04:47,280 per meeting you 58 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:53,120 get paid $325 per meeting. 59 00:04:49,199 --> 00:05:00,479 And yet you want to raise our prices, our our taxes, 60 00:04:56,560 --> 00:05:06,960 property taxes to I don't even know what you want that for. 88% 61 00:05:04,000 --> 00:05:14,560 and you lost your mind. I mean, I'm serious about this. I can't 62 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:18,160 afford a a tax rate. Not for 88%. And I'm sure there's not many people in 63 00:05:16,240 --> 00:05:20,560 here that can. I've said enough. I said what I want to 64 00:05:20,240 --> 00:05:24,240 say. >> Thank you, ma'am. 65 00:05:23,280 --> 00:05:29,520 Mr. >> Anyone else? Anyone else? 66 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:35,759 » By the way, uh I just wanted to make a a point. There's been no resolution or 67 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:40,320 motion or any paperwork at all about raising the salary of the mayor and 68 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:46,000 council. Uh so I don't I don't know where you got your information from, but 69 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:50,479 » I had an old line on line. >> Okay. Well, it's incorrect or you 70 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:54,000 misunderstood it because there's been no move to increase the salary of any 71 00:05:52,639 --> 00:05:58,800 council person, >> especially not 15,000 a month. 72 00:05:56,400 --> 00:06:01,440 » Let him speak, Jim. >> Yes, ma'am. State your name and your 73 00:06:00,479 --> 00:06:08,160 address, please. Ma'am, >> my name is Amy Blackchman. I live at 73 74 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:11,680 G um Lynn Avenue. So, I reviewed the slide deck that's online, but it left me 75 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:15,840 with a lot of questions. It's pretty vague. I'm wondering if you can provide 76 00:06:13,759 --> 00:06:21,120 a reconciliation showing the city's total recurring revenues by source for 77 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:26,880 fifth fiscal year 25 compared to fiscal year 26, including property taxes, fire 78 00:06:24,319 --> 00:06:30,880 fees, sales taxes, franchise fees, business taxes, licensing, permits, 79 00:06:28,639 --> 00:06:35,280 charges for service and transfers, and identify exactly how much new recurring 80 00:06:33,360 --> 00:06:39,919 revenue the city expects to collect under the proposed budget as compared to 81 00:06:37,360 --> 00:06:44,319 last year. >> Bon has 82 00:06:42,080 --> 00:06:49,440 Did you I'm sorry. Have you looked at the PowerPoint that has been presented? 83 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:52,639 » Yeah, it's pretty big >> because there's budget numbers in there 84 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:55,360 that show the 2025 [clears throat] and the 2026. 85 00:06:53,520 --> 00:07:00,240 » It doesn't give a bottom line comparison and it and there's like about a 4.9 86 00:06:57,759 --> 00:07:05,680 million difference over the fire fee costs that isn't clearly explained and 87 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:11,680 it it doesn't show where they're coming from. Is it just on property owners or 88 00:07:09,599 --> 00:07:17,800 what what part of that is being, you know, being attributed to our local 89 00:07:13,440 --> 00:07:17,800 business taxes, sales taxes? 90 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:27,280 » I think it's going to slide. >> Yeah, it's not going to 91 00:07:24,639 --> 00:07:31,919 Okay. Of the 2026 budget, only $3 million was budgeted for property taxes. 92 00:07:29,919 --> 00:07:37,840 As of yet, the budget has not been changed to reflect the proposed property 93 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:40,840 tax rate because it hasn't been approved yet. 94 00:07:41,919 --> 00:07:48,520 » It goes back to there's not a clear line by line comparison though. 95 00:07:49,280 --> 00:07:57,319 » The the 2026 budget is online. >> I've reviewed it and I reviewed the 96 00:07:54,319 --> 00:07:57,319 2025. 97 00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:03,440 Those are my comments. Mr. Mayor, can I say something? 98 00:08:02,800 --> 00:08:11,199 » Yes. >> Um, I didn't catch your name, but the 99 00:08:06,479 --> 00:08:17,599 2025 and 2026 city's budget is online. It's open records. All expenses and all 100 00:08:14,479 --> 00:08:23,280 income as part of the open records. That is online. It's nothing that we're 101 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:27,639 trying to hide or anything. >> Anyone else want to come up and speak? 102 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:36,159 I got something to say. >> Good afternoon, council. 103 00:08:34,240 --> 00:08:43,360 » Good afternoon. >> Uh, Shagari Williams, 59 Barnado Avenue. 104 00:08:40,479 --> 00:08:52,480 » Mhm. And my question to the council is uh to the finance person, the uh city 105 00:08:47,600 --> 00:08:59,360 manager, whoever um the surplus that the audit say we had, have y'all uh decided 106 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:03,240 is there any thing that can be allocated to cut that 88%. 107 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:14,959 » We do allocate some of our surplus appropriation of fund balance. We do 108 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:19,360 that every year. So, we do use some of our surplus. 109 00:09:16,399 --> 00:09:24,240 » Okay. But I'm saying the auditor said and I'm Did he say 16 million surplus? 110 00:09:22,560 --> 00:09:28,080 Was that the number? >> No, he was talking about the days that 111 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:31,360 we have the months that we have to operate 112 00:09:29,600 --> 00:09:33,760 » in case of an emergency. >> Yes, ma'am. 113 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:39,279 » That's what he was talking about. >> Okay. So, what is our surplus? Well, we 114 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:43,519 have a surplus and then we borrow from it to appropriate in the budget. In our 115 00:09:41,680 --> 00:09:47,680 budget, if you'll see what the revenues are, we have an appropriation of fund 116 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,640 balance. If you go online and look at our actual 117 00:09:49,760 --> 00:09:53,200 budget, >> okay, I I'm listening to you. 118 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:58,160 » Yeah, >> but you're not answering my question. 119 00:09:56,160 --> 00:10:01,360 » I asked you what is our surplus? What's the number? 120 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:04,080 » Well, the surplus, what is our number? >> I don't know. I don't have it in front 121 00:10:02,480 --> 00:10:08,880 of me. She doesn't have it in front of her, but 122 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:15,120 » I know from the last year for 2020 2025, we had we appropriated 3.7 million out 123 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:19,200 of our surplus to the budget to balance the budget. And this year, we 124 00:10:17,200 --> 00:10:22,920 appropriated for the proposed budget for the adopted 3.9. 125 00:10:23,279 --> 00:10:29,440 And if you add the fire department in, when you move it from your enterprise 126 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:33,680 fund to your general fund, we're going to have to appropriate over five million 127 00:10:31,760 --> 00:10:38,640 out of the surplus. And if you keep appropriating out of the surplus, you're 128 00:10:35,680 --> 00:10:44,079 going to use all your savings. So it's just like your personal um accounts. If 129 00:10:41,680 --> 00:10:51,120 you keep using your savings, you're going to deplete it. 130 00:10:46,800 --> 00:10:56,560 So we do offset it. >> Okay. uh you gave me some numbers from 131 00:10:53,279 --> 00:11:01,680 2025 and I understand that if you keep taking and not replacing then you you 132 00:10:59,680 --> 00:11:07,920 drill it. I understand that. >> But what I'm saying is in for this 133 00:11:04,880 --> 00:11:11,440 military increase. >> Can't we use some of the surplus to cut 134 00:11:10,399 --> 00:11:15,839 some of that idiot? >> We still we still will be using some of 135 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:20,320 the surplus to cut that amount. Yes, we still will be to balance the budget. We 136 00:11:17,760 --> 00:11:24,880 are not covering the whole amount with the fire department. moving over because 137 00:11:22,480 --> 00:11:29,440 you have 13 departments already in the general fund and now you're moving 138 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:34,399 another department a major department in with over five million just about close 139 00:11:31,519 --> 00:11:38,560 to 5 million in expenditures. So you've got to increase revenue. 140 00:11:37,040 --> 00:11:41,600 Three minutes is up. >> Finish. 141 00:11:40,079 --> 00:11:46,000 » You You can finish answering the question, Rhonda. But three minutes. 142 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:50,480 » So you do have the surplus. So we are subsidizing it. Yes, we are. 143 00:11:48,560 --> 00:11:52,480 » 3 minutes up. I I still don't feel like I got a a good answer. 144 00:11:52,000 --> 00:11:59,079 » Okay. >> Um but thank you. 145 00:11:54,640 --> 00:11:59,079 » Anyone else want to come up and speak? 146 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:08,079 » Mr. Mr. Mayor, may I ask one question regarding the uh question that was just 147 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:13,279 asked? If the millage rate is set at the 7.581 as proposed, how much 148 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:18,000 appropriation of funds will be appropriated for this year at that point 149 00:12:15,120 --> 00:12:22,240 compared to what we initially had as the 3.5? 150 00:12:18,959 --> 00:12:27,120 » You're talking about if you did a lower >> right now as proposed, what will the 151 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:32,560 appropriation of funds be? Well, at your 7.581, now this is 152 00:12:31,040 --> 00:12:38,480 just an estimate, you're still going to have to appropriate over about 700,000, 153 00:12:35,839 --> 00:12:42,560 maybe up to a million depending on on how the budget comes in. If you did six 154 00:12:41,120 --> 00:12:47,040 mills, you're still going to you're going to have to appropriate 155 00:12:43,839 --> 00:12:51,279 approximately 2.2 million. And if you did 5.5 mills, it's going to be 156 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:56,000 approximately 2.7 million. >> Okay? And when the budget was approved 157 00:12:53,279 --> 00:13:00,639 last year, um whenever it was adopted, it was adopted with an appropriation of 158 00:12:57,839 --> 00:13:01,440 3.538 million. Is that correct? >> Yes. 159 00:13:00,959 --> 00:13:05,200 » Yes. >> So you're looking to reduce that number 160 00:13:03,680 --> 00:13:08,079 drastically. >> Probably to around Well, it depends what 161 00:13:07,040 --> 00:13:14,880 you adopt. >> The number increased um 1.7 million. So 162 00:13:12,399 --> 00:13:19,600 it's at 5.3 right now. So we are looking >> correct. But with the 7.581 millillage 163 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:22,160 rate, it will reduce that appropriation of funds down to about $700,000. 164 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,720 Correct. >> Yes. 165 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:26,880 » Thank you. >> Thank you. 166 00:13:25,360 --> 00:13:33,920 » All right. So, state your name and your address, please. 167 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:38,079 » Miles Gerorado, 76 Lyn Avenue. Uh, I should have got up here a little 168 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:43,360 quicker, but y'all close it out so fast and I kind of a little bit on the tax 169 00:13:40,079 --> 00:13:47,040 situation, too. Um, I love my neighborhood. I think it's one of the 170 00:13:45,040 --> 00:13:51,360 best neighborhoods in Garden City and be so close to Savannah 171 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:55,440 District 5. Uh, but the thing is, anytime we go to 172 00:13:54,000 --> 00:14:00,639 do something in Garden City, we got to leave the city to go shop. It don't 173 00:13:57,040 --> 00:14:05,199 matter what it is. U, the food line up here is okay. It's convenient, whatever. 174 00:14:02,720 --> 00:14:08,480 No deli, no bakery. We had three grocery stores when I moved here at one time 175 00:14:06,639 --> 00:14:17,040 when Dixie was here, but way before my time. But anyway, uh 88% increase and 176 00:14:14,399 --> 00:14:20,720 the assessment values keep going up. That means more property taxes for the 177 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:26,480 county and so on and so on, you know, and it's just my bill just went up $50 178 00:14:24,079 --> 00:14:31,120 this month. And I don't know how much it's going to go up with the 88% 179 00:14:28,320 --> 00:14:37,079 increase. I just think it's unreal to be that high. I know they're trying to take 180 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:37,079 care of the fire department and so on, 181 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:43,079 not take care of each other. We have services and everything. 182 00:14:46,079 --> 00:14:53,639 » That's all I have to say. >> Thank you, sir. [clears throat] 183 00:14:49,279 --> 00:14:53,639 » Anyone else want to come up and speak? 184 00:15:01,920 --> 00:15:09,440 How y'all doing today? >> Fine. You sir [clears throat] 185 00:15:04,639 --> 00:15:14,720 Elliser 5228 Augusta Road Highway 21 over there. 186 00:15:11,360 --> 00:15:19,440 So I guess what I'd like to ask is um the reason we're here. We're talking 187 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:25,519 about this tax increase, but this has been evidently creeping up on everybody 188 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:31,279 for some time now. I think the fire fee was implemented back in what 2009. 189 00:15:29,839 --> 00:15:34,000 Does that sound correct? Something like that. I know it's something like that. 190 00:15:32,880 --> 00:15:36,399 It's on your site. >> No, 191 00:15:34,560 --> 00:15:42,000 » excuse me. >> Oh, excuse me. Okay. Okay. Okay. So, 192 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:46,240 what I'm trying to figure out though, so we just went through the court. We read 193 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:52,079 everything in the papers. Garden Se was found. they have to pay X amount of 194 00:15:48,240 --> 00:15:56,639 dollars towards a lawsuit that the people that were being charged are going 195 00:15:53,759 --> 00:16:02,720 to receive 20 some odd percent of what they actually paid in which that's a 196 00:15:59,360 --> 00:16:07,839 whole different story here. But what I'd like to know is what part of this is 197 00:16:05,120 --> 00:16:12,720 Garden City? What part are y'all owning with all of this? And instead of trying 198 00:16:09,920 --> 00:16:17,519 to pass it all off to the citizens and businesses, what part are y'all owning? 199 00:16:15,199 --> 00:16:22,160 If we've got money in the bank, that sounds like y'all need to take and 200 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:29,680 appropriate that money. Y'all need to exhaust all areas of here prior to 201 00:16:25,839 --> 00:16:34,240 passing it off to the citizens and making them pay for mistakes. And I'm 202 00:16:32,079 --> 00:16:38,079 not saying this council did it. I'm saying there may have been pre because 203 00:16:36,399 --> 00:16:44,240 2011, I don't even know if any of y'all were on this council then. But my thing 204 00:16:40,959 --> 00:16:49,120 is is can't you can't tax your way out of a problem. I know that's what they 205 00:16:47,120 --> 00:16:52,320 want to do. You'll never tax your way out of it. You're going to have to have 206 00:16:50,639 --> 00:16:56,480 more physical responsibility and financial responsibility. And we're 207 00:16:54,320 --> 00:17:00,399 going to have to cut things that we don't need. And if you look right over 208 00:16:58,639 --> 00:17:04,799 here, right to the side, that library right there. I don't know what y'all pay 209 00:17:02,320 --> 00:17:10,240 to fund that, how it's funded, if Garden City has any kind of financial 210 00:17:07,439 --> 00:17:14,640 obligation to it, but If we have a dollar going to that, that 211 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:20,400 don't need to be there. If we have $1 going in there. So, and the other way I 212 00:17:17,520 --> 00:17:26,160 look at this too, whether you're from a certain district or an area 213 00:17:23,280 --> 00:17:31,520 representative represented, it doesn't matter. You y'all are our mouthpiece. 214 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:36,400 So, that means when you listen, when we come up here and we say something or we 215 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:40,799 talk about it, you're supposed to, you're an elected official. You're the 216 00:17:38,559 --> 00:17:44,640 mouthpiece of the people that are here. Not up here for your own we're going to 217 00:17:42,640 --> 00:17:48,960 do this or we're going to do this. Doesn't work that way. That's how you'll 218 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:55,760 get voted out. >> So, what I'm saying is the citizens 219 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:59,679 register their complaints. You listen to them and you don't say, 220 00:17:57,360 --> 00:18:02,960 "Oh, well, we have to do this." If this needs to be put off again, it needs to 221 00:18:01,520 --> 00:18:08,080 be put off because this ain't going to sit well. We're paying for any and 222 00:18:05,679 --> 00:18:11,200 everything from a local level. >> Thank you, sir. You're three minutes. 223 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:12,720 » There you go. Right there. I can't even talk, can you? 224 00:18:11,919 --> 00:18:15,280 » Okay. >> Three minutes, sir. 225 00:18:13,679 --> 00:18:18,160 » Yeah. There you go. That'll be one of the reasons you'll be one of them gone. 226 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:25,440 » Thank you. >> So be it. Anyone else? on this fire fee 227 00:18:22,799 --> 00:18:31,840 on this fire fee issue. When council passed the fire fee in 2011, 228 00:18:28,799 --> 00:18:36,880 it was legal and there were courts in Georgia that upheld the fire fee. 229 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:42,960 Unfortunately, through time, judges decide cases differently and in recent 230 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:49,440 years a lot of judges have determined that the fire fee in the form that we 231 00:18:45,200 --> 00:18:55,280 were charging is is not proper. Uh so it's not a matter of us doing something 232 00:18:52,160 --> 00:19:00,960 by mistake initially. It's the fact that the laws have changed to which question 233 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:07,120 the practice that was done a number of years ago. A court did not tell us to 234 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:13,679 pay the fee. We settled the case based on the fact that we anticipated that a 235 00:19:09,679 --> 00:19:19,360 court may agree that the tax is invalid. No court has stated that we agreed to 236 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:26,880 settle. I think the claim, whole claim was almost $5.2 million that we were 237 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:32,320 being asked to pay. Um, and we reduced that amount, I believe, to 1.4. 238 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:37,840 And I the council thought that was the most economical and and wise thing to do 239 00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:45,200 where you have a court that might issue an order against us for 5.2 and we have 240 00:19:41,120 --> 00:19:49,840 a chance of settling the case for 1.4. I think that if most people had that 241 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:54,880 option, I think they would choose settling the matter for that's that 242 00:19:51,919 --> 00:20:01,039 relatively smaller amount. But the laws change and we have to 243 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:07,520 uh counter those changes by doing things in the future and courts have stated 244 00:20:03,679 --> 00:20:13,039 that fire fees should be part of adorum taxes that we shouldn't be collecting 245 00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:19,200 them separately as a use tax. The reason that the fire protection fees came into 246 00:20:15,039 --> 00:20:23,600 effect is because a lot of jurisdictions believe that the people who used the 247 00:20:21,039 --> 00:20:30,000 fire department should be paying for it. So, the ones that had the bigger houses 248 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:35,280 or uh were charged more fire fees than people that just had vacant lots. Um, 249 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:40,240 but the courts have determined that no, you shouldn't do it based on that 250 00:20:37,679 --> 00:20:45,600 method. you should lump it into the ad voluorum tax and and do it that way. And 251 00:20:42,799 --> 00:20:50,159 that's what we're doing. Um so it's not a matter of anybody making a mistake. 252 00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:54,960 It's a matter of the laws changing to where we need to do things differently 253 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:57,960 as most other cities have that same problem. 254 00:21:00,159 --> 00:21:04,760 » Okay. Anyone else want to come up and speak? 255 00:21:05,679 --> 00:21:08,679 Okay. 256 00:21:19,919 --> 00:21:26,799 Good evening, Mayor and Council. My name is Don Mthoon and I reside at 2621 257 00:21:24,720 --> 00:21:32,799 Woodlon Avenue. and and my first comments I would like to address to 258 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:40,240 council member Bruner in a council workshop um I don't know maybe a couple 259 00:21:36,159 --> 00:21:47,360 of months ago um you brought up the fact that um 28 years ago when your side of 260 00:21:44,080 --> 00:21:50,080 town was annexed into Garden City you were promised 261 00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:54,559 » I wasn't annexed in 28 years ago sir it's only been about 18 years I wasn't 262 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,880 annexed in 28 years ago it's only been about maybe 18 years since we were 263 00:21:56,159 --> 00:22:01,679 annexed in. >> Well, it was 28 years ago. I got the 264 00:21:59,120 --> 00:22:08,240 information from the city and I actually looked online and actually um Dean 265 00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:16,960 Kicklder was the mayor and so it was 28 years ago. So you said um we were 266 00:22:13,039 --> 00:22:23,679 annexed in get we were annexed in and we were promised um water and sewer, no 267 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:30,960 property taxes and more services. 268 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:37,600 And in those comments I felt a little buyer remorse. So I can't say what 269 00:22:36,159 --> 00:22:43,280 would have happened with the water and sewer. I'm sure there would have been 270 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:49,120 some cost with it for 15 years. You didn't pay anything. So to your comment 271 00:22:47,360 --> 00:22:53,919 that that side of town, this side of town 272 00:22:51,600 --> 00:23:02,000 doesn't have better services. So I took a look. So your personal residence, you 273 00:22:57,039 --> 00:23:06,799 pay $44 a year in Garden City taxes. $44. 274 00:23:03,600 --> 00:23:12,960 This group is going to decide on a millage rate of 7 and a half meals. So 275 00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:20,400 if we could change time and you were in the special services district 276 00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:25,120 and the village rate in Garden City is 7.5. 277 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:30,000 So what would you pay if you were still in the county? Because you would pay 278 00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:36,640 county taxes and you would also pay an extra tax. So, what does that tax 279 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:45,360 consist of? First thing you would pay is $85 dry trash fee. The second thing is 280 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:52,400 you would lose your $40,000 homestead exemption that Garden City 281 00:23:48,480 --> 00:24:00,159 gives you. And the second thing is the millage rate for the UNC unincorporated 282 00:23:55,200 --> 00:24:05,120 county is 6.5 mills. So, you indicated you have better services. So, what would 283 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:09,520 the county be giving you? Um, you would have county police protection. The 284 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:15,919 county would be cutting your rideways over there. I'm sure that we've all seen 285 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:21,360 a county maintained right away. And the fire department would be serving you. 286 00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:27,760 That's all you get. So, it's your opinion that you're paying 287 00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:33,520 $44 Garden City taxes and you get nothing for it? I can't understand that. 288 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:40,000 Next person, Mayor. >> May I get how much? 289 00:24:37,600 --> 00:24:47,679 » Next would be Council Member B. So in September of 290 00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:54,559 2020, he came to the senior center to speak uh tied his uh business 291 00:24:52,080 --> 00:25:01,840 experience, managed millions of dollars in budgets, and in my hand, I have a 292 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:07,679 copy of the 2025-year budget. And in the next two weeks, I'm going to dig dissect 293 00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:12,960 that and I'm going to tell you all the wasteful money. Can you identify 294 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:15,679 anything in that budget that you could cut? 295 00:25:14,480 --> 00:25:18,880 » Were we speaking about from five years ago? 296 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:23,360 » 10 10 months ago. You said, "I'm going to look at the 2025-year budget and in 297 00:25:21,840 --> 00:25:28,240 two weeks I'm going to tell you about all the wasteful spending." So my 298 00:25:25,840 --> 00:25:31,600 question is, you've had the budget for 10 months. Can you identify? 299 00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:36,000 » I will. >> Three minutes up, sir. 300 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:41,919 » Only one thing. I would like the fire chief and the police chief to come up 301 00:25:38,799 --> 00:25:45,679 and explain because Chris said he would eliminate 302 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:47,600 » three minutes. Three minutes up three minutes up, sir. 303 00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:50,320 » I would like three minutes. >> Say, sir, I I will say my my voting 304 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:53,679 record is public. >> Chris, 305 00:25:51,679 --> 00:26:00,000 » Michael, >> um with all due respect, uh some of that 306 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:03,840 information is that may be correct for my homestead, but I own multiple 307 00:26:01,679 --> 00:26:07,520 properties in Garden City. I pay multiple fees to Garden City and I 308 00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:13,600 promise you I pay more to Garden City than Mr. Bthoon has paid. Uh I pay storm 309 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:17,760 water fees of over $300 a month. I was paying the fire fee of another $200 and 310 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:22,000 something dollars a month. And I have several other properties that I pay 311 00:26:19,279 --> 00:26:28,240 property tax to Garden City on that are way more than $46 a year. So thank you. 312 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:31,200 » Thank you. >> Yeah. No, I was just going to say my 313 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:34,159 voting record is public. Um, you know, as you said, I I said that I would vote 314 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:36,960 against wasteful spending, and I think I've done that in my time on council. 315 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:39,600 There have been, I don't know, four or five different things that have come 316 00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:44,640 across that I voted against because I didn't feel that we needed them. 317 00:26:41,679 --> 00:26:48,698 » Anyone else want to come up and speak, >> but we're going to close this part of 318 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:53,039 public hearing. [clears throat] 319 00:26:49,919 --> 00:27:00,360 Now, we have village point, town home, final subdivision map. 320 00:26:56,159 --> 00:27:00,360 Anyone want to speak for it? 321 00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:13,120 U my name is Travis Bazemore. I'm an EMC engineering. I'm here tonight on behalf 322 00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:18,600 of the applicant. Um just here mainly to answer any questions if you have them. 323 00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:18,600 Um, don't have. 324 00:27:27,279 --> 00:27:34,720 » Good afternoon, Mayor Council. Uh, Carl of ours for planning and zoning. Um, 325 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:38,880 this is I just like to ask um open public comments for this final plat. 326 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:46,320 This was this came up front front of you in 20 2022 for the uh the initial uh 327 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:52,080 plat subdivision. This is behind city hall if you know with 76 U town homes 328 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:57,039 trying to being built. This is just public comment and for uh the final 329 00:27:54,480 --> 00:28:00,399 plat. Nothing has changed. All the infrastructure has been put in place. 330 00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:05,760 They also paid for the new roadway to extend Constantine that the city will 331 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:10,880 take on after uh the final inspections as well as we've received all the bonds 332 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:15,600 and warranties for this development uh initially for 30 30 months of uh 333 00:28:13,279 --> 00:28:19,919 warranty and bonds set in place. City staff doesn't have uh no concerns or 334 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:25,120 objections on it and just recommend for approval. So just like to open up for 335 00:28:21,760 --> 00:28:29,120 any public comments. Okay. >> Anyone want to speak against this 336 00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:34,809 project? Anyone else want to speak for it? Anyone want to speak against it? 337 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:38,640 We'll close this part of the [clears throat] 338 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:45,600 Now we have a general development plan 129 St. Joseph Avenue recip recipant 339 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:53,760 Jonathan Austin seeking to approve for the construction of a 6,000 square ft 340 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:58,559 metal building petition in 4500 square ft. Anyone want to speak for that? 341 00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:07,919 Good morning or good afternoon again. Um just give you an update. This mix came 342 00:29:05,520 --> 00:29:14,080 in front of uh planning commission um and their recommendation was denied due 343 00:29:10,559 --> 00:29:18,720 to traffic concerns um existing conditions on St. Joseph's Avenue and as 344 00:29:16,799 --> 00:29:22,399 well as the commercial being on a residential area. city staff's 345 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:27,760 recommendation. Um obviously they meet all of the zoning uh requirements, any 346 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:34,159 zoning laws, buffers and the permitting use based on that zoning. Um so based on 347 00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:37,840 the zoning appro zoning laws, city staff has recommendation. Now there is some 348 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:42,960 concern [clears throat] with u obviously the public on that side repeating into a 349 00:29:39,919 --> 00:29:48,640 residential area. Um we like to open for open um for public. The petitioner is 350 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:54,480 here and property owner. I'll let him speak on behalf of him as well as um any 351 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:57,480 anybody against opposing on that. >> Okay. 352 00:29:57,679 --> 00:30:07,039 » State state your name and address, please, sir. 353 00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:11,520 » Austin Page, 129 St. Joseph Avenue. Um I bought this property a while back 354 00:30:08,960 --> 00:30:14,799 um with the intentions of um I own own a business. I was going to run my business 355 00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:20,000 out of the property and have three other three other spaces um at it. Um, I 356 00:30:17,679 --> 00:30:24,080 bought it at a higher price because I believe it was it was because of the 357 00:30:21,600 --> 00:30:27,760 zoning. Um, so I figured I could do, you know, somewhat what I wanted to do. Um, 358 00:30:26,815 --> 00:30:34,080 [clears throat] and there was a lot of people opposing 359 00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:38,720 it. Um, at the last meeting, uh, I know it's my lot faces it's right right uh 360 00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:42,799 faces the back of the Family Dollar. They had uh and I and I know there's 361 00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:47,919 semis that pull in there that that that drop stuff off all the time. Um, also 362 00:30:45,039 --> 00:30:53,120 I'm right behind uh the uh in market. Um, and I mean half the time when I go 363 00:30:51,279 --> 00:30:56,159 over there to clean up the lot, I mean there's trash everywhere, beer bottles, 364 00:30:54,960 --> 00:31:01,039 all that kind of stuff. So I was trying to trying to trying to improve it to 365 00:30:58,159 --> 00:31:04,480 make it make it a nice spot. Um, I know somebody mentioned residential, but as 366 00:31:02,799 --> 00:31:07,120 far as zoning goes for that area, I don't even think you can build that, 367 00:31:06,116 --> 00:31:10,399 [clears throat] you know, build a house in that spot. The zone commercial. Um, 368 00:31:09,391 --> 00:31:15,120 [snorts] also down the road there's a 7200 ft 369 00:31:13,039 --> 00:31:20,880 building on a smaller lot than what I have. Um, and it's right up against the 370 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:27,279 house. Um, I wouldn't even be close to any houses. Um, so I was just trying to 371 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:32,240 figure out, you know, what um, you know, what I can do to to uh to actually build 372 00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:35,760 this build this spot. >> I have a question, sir. Mhm. 373 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:41,039 » How would the ingress and degress work when it comes to like public safety 374 00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:46,960 getting into their in in the event that something happens without impeding 375 00:31:43,440 --> 00:31:51,120 normal flow of traffic in their area? >> I mean this this small 1500 foot spots I 376 00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:54,960 mean it's not going to be I mean my business myself I have four employees 377 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:58,080 where I I would be there maybe two three days a week. I would it would just be 378 00:31:56,399 --> 00:32:01,200 basically a place to store my equipment so it wouldn't be a bunch of traffic 379 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:05,120 going in and out of there. >> But I thought you like 380 00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:07,760 cutting down to four different units. >> Yeah, I am cutting down to four 381 00:32:06,159 --> 00:32:13,120 different units, [clears throat] >> but uh I can't speak for for what what I 382 00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:16,159 mean, but it's a small it's small 1500 foot spot, so I wouldn't I wouldn't 383 00:32:14,799 --> 00:32:20,159 think that there would be a lot of people there. I mean, I was kind of 384 00:32:18,559 --> 00:32:23,360 thinking there would be people that would use it for similar use to what I'm 385 00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:27,039 using it for. >> But there's no guarantee, sir, in 386 00:32:25,519 --> 00:32:30,880 regards to what you're going to um put in those spots. Am I correct? No, 387 00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:35,120 there's I mean there's there's like I said there's 1500 square feet. It'd be I 388 00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:38,240 mean possibly a small office or just storage for some for somebody which is 389 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:40,559 basically what I'd use it for. >> Any idea what you'll be storing in 390 00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:43,919 there? >> Uh I'd be I own an elevator business. 391 00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:48,039 I'd be storing elevator equipment. >> Elevator equipment. 392 00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:48,039 » Yes, sir. 393 00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:57,919 » I've got a a question. Um your development goes through a city lane. 394 00:32:55,760 --> 00:33:00,880 Um, you didn't get title to that strip, did you? 395 00:32:59,039 --> 00:33:04,480 » I have not gotten title for that. >> I think that 396 00:33:03,039 --> 00:33:09,200 » I think what you're going to need to do is petition the city to abandon that 397 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:14,960 lane and then they've got the option of selling it to you. That's the the rule 398 00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:19,120 under Georgia law, but you just can't uh cover up a city lane without actually 399 00:33:17,360 --> 00:33:23,840 getting the city to abandon it. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, I think that probably 400 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:28,960 needs to be done before we approve the site plan because your 401 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:33,679 site plan actually has your project going over the city lane, doesn't it? 402 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:36,559 » Yes. Yes. And I spoke with Carlos about about that before as well. 403 00:33:35,679 --> 00:33:41,320 » I'm sorry. What? >> I spoke with Carlos about that before as 404 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:41,320 well. 405 00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:52,799 » Okay. Thank you, sir. All right. Anyone else want to speak for it? Do we have 406 00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:57,519 anyone want to speak against it? >> I'm the engineer on his project. I I'd 407 00:33:55,679 --> 00:34:02,640 be happy to answer any questions related to engineering if you had if you have 408 00:34:00,080 --> 00:34:07,279 any. I mean, I'm obviously for the project. I mean, these kind of flex 409 00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:12,320 space units are very beneficial to the local economy. It allows mom and pop 410 00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:16,720 shops to be able to transition into something smaller. 411 00:34:14,320 --> 00:34:22,720 uh a lot of the stuff that they brought up at the planning commission 412 00:34:19,599 --> 00:34:26,159 uh and the reasons why they denied it, you know, were were related to 413 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:31,440 engineering issues that we were going to address anyway with the engineering. So, 414 00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:36,560 I don't think they understood that. So, uh anyway, I'm for it. If you have any 415 00:34:33,919 --> 00:34:39,359 questions, I'll be happy to answer. >> Okay. 416 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:42,639 » I I don't know whether the city can approve something that that goes over 417 00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:45,599 its throttway. So, >> I mean, it happens all the time in 418 00:34:43,839 --> 00:34:49,040 Savannah. I mean, we we get encroachments 419 00:34:46,879 --> 00:34:54,000 » and I've always gone before city council to get city council to abandon lanes 420 00:34:51,679 --> 00:34:57,680 before I had clients. >> We do that too. A lot of times they make 421 00:34:55,679 --> 00:35:03,760 the homeowner buy it just like you guys are happens all the time. 422 00:35:01,839 --> 00:35:08,800 » I would suggest the matter be tabled until the issue of the lane can be 423 00:35:05,599 --> 00:35:12,760 worked out rather than the rather than the site plan being denied. 424 00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:22,119 Is that it? >> Thank you, sir. Have anyone want to 425 00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:22,119 speak against me? 426 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:28,640 » State your name and your address, please, sir. 427 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:34,160 » Good evening. My name Julius Bryant. I live 15 St. George Avenue. 428 00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:37,839 And uh I'm against this warehouse or whatever they want to 429 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:43,440 put on here. We got a one way, a oneway street. One way in and one way out. We 430 00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:49,440 don't need nothing like that up there. And everybody against it. 431 00:35:47,200 --> 00:35:54,800 I don't care what side he say. We don't need it. Period. If you going to put a 432 00:35:51,040 --> 00:36:00,079 house there, okay. But a business, no. We got a enough traffic as it is. We 433 00:35:58,160 --> 00:36:06,079 don't need it there. And I'm not the only one against it. 434 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:09,040 Everybody on the street against it. >> Thank you. 435 00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:12,680 » Thank you, sir. Anyone else want to speak against it? 436 00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:20,880 State your name and your address, please. M. 437 00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:27,200 » Hello, my name is Angela Vaughn and I have a resident at 116 St. Joseph's. I 438 00:36:23,760 --> 00:36:32,320 agree with Julius on not having it because it's going to block up a lot of 439 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:36,480 space and people going in and out. So, I'm against it. Also, 440 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:43,520 » thank you. One of the things I need to point out is is that the property is 441 00:36:39,359 --> 00:36:49,119 zoned heavy commercial and when the applicant bought it, he relied on it 442 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:53,839 being able to be used for heavy commercial. In fact, the city's 443 00:36:50,960 --> 00:37:00,640 comprehensive future use plan had it as as commercial, too. So, 444 00:36:57,440 --> 00:37:06,480 legally, uh commercial use can go on the property. Uh how he plats it out on the 445 00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:13,440 property is a different issue that the site plan would determine as far as 446 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:18,160 buffers and setbacks and how dense the activity is going to be on the on the 447 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:23,920 flat. City council can work on that with the applicant. But as far as his right 448 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:28,280 to put something commercial there, I mean, he's got the right to do that. 449 00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,040 » Anyone else want to speak against it? 450 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:43,280 Shagari Williams, 59 Barnado Avenue. This uh St. Joseph Street property and 451 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:47,599 you say it's zone for heavy >> No, just this one piece, 452 00:37:44,960 --> 00:37:52,640 » right? So why don't y'all reszone that area for residential? 453 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:56,880 Cuz if I lived on that street, I don't want to hear that noise. I don't want 454 00:37:54,079 --> 00:38:01,359 stuff coming up and down the street. And I believe don't the street flood or 455 00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:06,000 something when it's heavy rain. So y'all want to go up on taxes and 456 00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:12,560 y'all want to put noise in. How much will this new business contribute to 457 00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:16,800 this 88% to help relieve the citizens? Also the warehouses that's being built 458 00:38:14,800 --> 00:38:21,920 around Garden City, how much will they put towards to help the citizens relieve 459 00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:29,400 some of that 88%. So I'm against it. 460 00:38:24,560 --> 00:38:29,400 Thank you, sir. Anyone else? 461 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:48,079 State your name and your address, please, ma'am. 462 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:53,280 » My name is Tracy Campbell. I stay at 119 St. Joseph Avenue, and I am against it. 463 00:38:51,040 --> 00:38:57,119 We already have one commercial property at the end of the street, and we deal 464 00:38:54,800 --> 00:39:00,480 with a lot of traffic with that. So to put another commercial property at the 465 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:06,079 top of the street, plus you got in market, you got Family Dollar. They come 466 00:39:03,920 --> 00:39:11,680 in and out and it's just a lot of heavy traffic. So I'm against it. 467 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:15,560 » Thank you, ma'am. Anyone else want to speak? 468 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:28,000 » State your name and your address, please, ma'am. 469 00:39:29,920 --> 00:39:38,240 Hello, my name is Tammy Allen and my parents reside at 115 St. Joseph Avenue 470 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:44,079 and I grew up there and I just wanted to speak to the council 471 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:49,520 um when they reszone that area to commercial property if I'm not mistaken 472 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:53,760 sometime back in 1959. The residents didn't have a voice. They 473 00:39:52,000 --> 00:40:00,240 didn't tell the residents that they were going to reszone it to commercial. 474 00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:04,720 » So, and then when they put the warehouse down there because it was already 475 00:40:02,079 --> 00:40:09,599 commercial, unbeknownst to the residents, when they told them this 476 00:40:07,359 --> 00:40:15,920 meeting was going to happen, the residents were told 7:00. when they got 477 00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:21,599 here at 7 o'clock, the meeting had adjourned at had was already over and 478 00:40:19,359 --> 00:40:27,760 they didn't even get a chance to vote. So, I only think it's fair that the city 479 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:32,160 council hear the residents uh concerns and take that into 480 00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:38,880 consideration um about reszoning as the gentleman said 481 00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:43,359 here and about putting another commercial property down there. It's a 482 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:50,480 one-way street. you already have traffic coming and going um from the warehouse. 483 00:40:47,119 --> 00:40:57,280 You have the traffic from in market and um Family Dollar with their 18-wheelers. 484 00:40:54,320 --> 00:41:03,119 And you also have I don't know if it's a sign up there. Um I can't re remember if 485 00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:08,079 there's a good sign, any signage that says it's a dead end street because 486 00:41:05,359 --> 00:41:12,560 people constantly come down. some big trucks come down because they think they 487 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:18,079 can go straight through to uh Bmpton Road. So, I just ask that you all please 488 00:41:15,359 --> 00:41:24,560 take all of that in consideration when you decide on this commercial property 489 00:41:21,040 --> 00:41:27,680 or even possible reszoning it. Thank you. 490 00:41:25,119 --> 00:41:31,599 » Thank you, ma'am. Anyone else? 491 00:41:29,920 --> 00:41:34,978 » So, we going to close this part of the hearing. [clears throat] 492 00:41:36,720 --> 00:41:44,800 Approval of the city council minutes concerning the minutes from July 6 493 00:41:41,359 --> 00:41:51,920 pre-aggenda section and city council um meeting minutes of July 13th workshop 494 00:41:48,800 --> 00:41:55,040 minutes. Entertain a motion. >> May I make a motion for approval of 495 00:41:53,359 --> 00:41:58,079 previous minutes? >> Second the motion. 496 00:41:56,400 --> 00:42:00,079 » Roll call vote on the motion. >> Council member Bruner, 497 00:41:59,359 --> 00:42:02,000 » approve. >> Council member Figale, 498 00:42:01,359 --> 00:42:03,839 » approve. >> Council member Hall, 499 00:42:03,119 --> 00:42:08,160 » approved. >> Council member Lacer, 500 00:42:05,119 --> 00:42:10,960 » abstain. Council member Mars >> approve 501 00:42:09,119 --> 00:42:15,680 » and Mayor Campbell >> approved. Motion carried. Res 502 00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:19,359 resolutions military. 503 00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:22,160 Uh can you read that by hearing on it please? Ma'am 504 00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:28,400 » a resolution of the mayor and council of Garden City, Georgia adopting adopting 505 00:42:24,720 --> 00:42:31,920 the adorum tax millage rate for the 2026 fiscal year and for other purposes. 506 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:35,760 » Entertain a motion. >> Mr. Mayor, before we entertain a motion, 507 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:41,040 I'd like to speak for a couple of minutes if that's okay. 508 00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:44,319 There you go. Good. I I I've had concerns with this. I mean, I've I've 509 00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:49,440 gone back over it. I had to sit in the office with the city manager to try to 510 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:54,640 understand exactly where this uh proposal would go as far as 511 00:42:53,440 --> 00:42:59,680 where all of that money would be allocated. And I have concerns on it 512 00:42:57,200 --> 00:43:04,560 with there's been an appropriation of funds every year for the last several 513 00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:10,800 years. And most of the mayor and council that's here now adopted the uh budget 514 00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:17,839 for last year with an appropriation of funds of $3.538 million. And you adopted 515 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:24,640 one the year before that with $3.312 million with the expectations that the 516 00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:28,960 revenues were underestimated. the expenditures were overestimated and 517 00:43:26,319 --> 00:43:34,240 you'd make up for that uh appropriation of funds. And now we're looking to, 518 00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:39,119 you know, it was said that this millage rate increase was necessary to cover the 519 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:43,040 fire fee um loss, which was the $1.46 million um which would not require 520 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:49,200 anywhere near that type of millage rate to cover just that loss of revenue. Um, 521 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:56,720 so I kept asking, hey, where is the rest of uh, you know, this almost uh almost 522 00:43:53,359 --> 00:44:03,359 $5 million, $4.5 million increase over what was anticipated uh, from when you 523 00:44:00,720 --> 00:44:09,119 created the budget for 2025. And it came down to that it was going to be covering 524 00:44:06,560 --> 00:44:14,079 the appropriation of the prior year's funds or the majority of it down to I 525 00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:18,319 think uh we just said $700,000 would be what was left in that appropriation of 526 00:44:15,599 --> 00:44:23,440 funds. So why is it that now it's a big concern to cover the majority of that 527 00:44:21,599 --> 00:44:28,000 appropriation? I mean it was not a problem at the end of last year whenever 528 00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:32,240 the budget was voted on to have, you know, $3.5 million and appropriated 529 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:35,440 towards the budget. So, why is it a problem now that all of that has to be 530 00:44:33,599 --> 00:44:41,520 covered? Why couldn't we consider a little bit lower 531 00:44:37,599 --> 00:44:46,400 millage rate increase um to cover the actual loss of revenue and and maybe 532 00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:51,760 consider bringing it down a little bit? I think even at 5 mills. Um, city 533 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:56,319 manager, you said it would bring it the appropriation down to 2 something 534 00:44:53,359 --> 00:45:00,400 million at 5 mills. Is that correct? >> 5.5 mills. 535 00:44:57,839 --> 00:45:06,160 » Okay. 5.5 mills would bring it down to >> about 2.7. That's an estimate. 536 00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:10,160 » Okay, which is, you know, getting close to a million dollars less than what was 537 00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:15,520 adopted already. So why do we need to go to 538 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:20,000 7.581 and cover that if if we were thinking we would be okay with 539 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:25,920 appropriating $3.5 million to begin with. So um 540 00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:29,760 that's that's my question and comments on it. you know, would would there be a 541 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:33,920 consideration of possibly going to a little bit lower increase on the mill 542 00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:37,079 rate versus, you know, going straight to a 7.581? 543 00:45:37,359 --> 00:45:42,160 » We'll [clears throat] entertain a motion and every man b his 544 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:44,400 heart. >> Mr. Mayor, can I say something? 545 00:45:43,520 --> 00:45:48,319 » Sure. >> Um, Mr. Bruner, you are correct in what 546 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:54,960 you were saying. However, if you remember, initially we talked about 8 ms 547 00:45:51,839 --> 00:46:00,560 before we came up with the um come down to 7.5 ms, but 548 00:45:58,560 --> 00:46:04,160 I did a calculation on some of the properties that I own in Garden City. I 549 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:08,400 have an empty lot. And right now on that empty lot, I pay 550 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:14,720 $23.95 tax per year on that empty lot. I do not 551 00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:20,400 have any homestead exemption on that uh because there's not a home there. My 552 00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:28,319 fire fee, I was paying $6.50 per month on fire fee, which comes to 553 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:34,319 $78 a year. The $78 plus the $23.95 comes to $11.95 554 00:46:31,359 --> 00:46:40,000 a year. Now, I know this doesn't apply to everyone situation, but it applies to 555 00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:48,800 a lot of situations. If my property tax goes up to proposed amount of 7.581%, 556 00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:55,920 I'll be paying a total of $726 per year rather than paying the $11, 557 00:46:52,720 --> 00:47:01,040 which is actually saving me in this incident on this piece of property $30 a 558 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:05,599 year. There are a lot of citizens, senior 559 00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:09,920 citizens that have the homestead exemptions and would fall in this 560 00:47:08,000 --> 00:47:14,720 category. Now, there are some people that will not fall in the category, but 561 00:47:12,160 --> 00:47:20,800 this is structured so that the higher, more expensive homes and businesses 562 00:47:17,280 --> 00:47:26,079 would pay more. And our citizens are accustomed to 563 00:47:23,359 --> 00:47:32,079 having fire protection, police protection, storm water drainage, water 564 00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:36,960 and sewage, recreation. They've become accustomed to it and we've got to 565 00:47:33,599 --> 00:47:40,880 continue to provide it. A lot of people have said, "Cut the budget. Go into the 566 00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:45,280 savings." If you go into our savings, the city will lose its bond ratings. 567 00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:48,800 Which means if we go to get loans, if you've got a good bond rating, we get a 568 00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:55,880 cheaper rate. Had a get a better chance of getting the loans. If our bond rating 569 00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:55,880 is down, we lose that opportunity. 570 00:47:56,240 --> 00:48:03,119 It is a gut-wrenching decision to make, but it has to be made. And I would like 571 00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:07,760 to provide our citizens with the service they are accustomed to using. 572 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:14,240 » Mr. Mayor, I will interject something as well before we take the vote. Um, as 573 00:48:11,359 --> 00:48:19,520 everyone has of opinion, of course, and I just want to point out sitting up here 574 00:48:17,359 --> 00:48:24,240 being elected to make decisions to be the voice for the people. We hear the 575 00:48:21,839 --> 00:48:30,319 people. We hear exactly what you're saying. No one likes to talk about tax 576 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:34,079 increases, including me. I'm a resident of Garden City, too. Pay taxes. Just 577 00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:38,960 like Councilman Hall mentioned, everybody has their rate and all their 578 00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:44,079 factors. But again, you have the homestead exemptions, you have other 579 00:48:41,599 --> 00:48:48,720 exemptions like the school taxes. Those could be waved after a certain age. You 580 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:54,880 have the disability taxes that can be waved on your um tax assessors 581 00:48:51,760 --> 00:48:59,359 um statements if you qualify. But again, these are different angles that you can 582 00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:04,800 go through in order to get those I call those expenses offset. But again, it's 583 00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:10,960 our responsibility to ensure that this city is able to continue to provide the 584 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:15,680 essential services to our citizens rely on every day. With the elimination of 585 00:49:13,839 --> 00:49:20,240 the fire fees, we've talked about that, how that went about, how that started 586 00:49:17,520 --> 00:49:25,760 and everything, we still need to consider cost of living increases, cost 587 00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:29,839 for staff, cost for benefits, cost for equipment, all those things taking 588 00:49:28,079 --> 00:49:33,520 effect. Just like you get a cost of living increase on your social security 589 00:49:31,440 --> 00:49:40,079 checks or just like you get a cost of living increase on your um jobs for 590 00:49:37,040 --> 00:49:45,920 wages, all those things pay a factor. We have to look at that being a city. So 591 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:52,400 with people looking at what we can cut and what we can't cut, we cannot sit 592 00:49:48,720 --> 00:49:58,160 here and be stewards of your monies and say that we can vote to discontinue 593 00:49:56,240 --> 00:50:02,800 those services you're used to. It's just no way. And yes, we've looked at all 594 00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:06,880 angles that everybody's addressed as far as cutting budgets. That's been looked 595 00:50:04,480 --> 00:50:10,640 at at the beginning. Okay? Of course, you're going to look at that first. 596 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:15,680 That's not going to be after the fact. But as an elected official, it's my duty 597 00:50:13,119 --> 00:50:19,599 to make these difficult decisions. And I know they're difficult. And I recognize 598 00:50:18,079 --> 00:50:24,720 the impact this increase is going to have on some taxpayers. But again, we're 599 00:50:22,559 --> 00:50:28,800 here to vote on what's going to make the city of Garden City grow. What's going 600 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:34,640 to make it continue to be the place you want to work, live, and play. Again, 601 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:37,440 we've got a great police department, so you want police services. You're going 602 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:42,160 to want fire services. You're going to want the new recreation complex, those 603 00:50:40,240 --> 00:50:46,240 services, and I know everybody's looking at what Garden City don't have, but 604 00:50:44,319 --> 00:50:50,240 again, if we continue to grow and build this city, we'll get those things 605 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:54,160 eventually. They they left. They were here, excuse me, and they left us for 606 00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:59,200 whatever reason. But again, they will be back because again, we are pushing and 607 00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:03,280 we are looking for all other avenues to bring back the grocery stores other than 608 00:51:01,599 --> 00:51:08,319 the one grocery store. We're looking at bringing back some more restaurants. Of 609 00:51:06,079 --> 00:51:11,359 course, we can't guarantee anything. People have to want to come to Garden 610 00:51:09,839 --> 00:51:15,200 City, but we have to make it attractive for them to come want to come to Garden 611 00:51:13,200 --> 00:51:19,280 City. So, please, ma'am, please, sir, please understand that this decision 612 00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:23,520 we're about to make is not easy. We all recognize that. Thank you so much, 613 00:51:21,359 --> 00:51:27,839 » Mr. Mayor. Citizens of Garden City, this is a tough 614 00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:32,960 decision. Uh I was restless ever since last week 615 00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:38,400 because I know [cough and clears throat] a lot of citizens that will be affected 616 00:51:35,359 --> 00:51:44,240 by this. you know, a lot of seniors, even people in my age group who will be 617 00:51:41,200 --> 00:51:49,839 affected by this for various health reasons that they they won't be able to, 618 00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:54,760 you know, sustain the regular lifestyle they they they have now. However, 619 00:51:55,280 --> 00:52:05,760 everything around us is getting higher. We cannot as a city want to be better, 620 00:52:03,520 --> 00:52:11,440 want to grow and everything with the subpar level we was at before. If you 621 00:52:08,960 --> 00:52:18,720 take a look at Port Wentworth Pula, everybody around us is growing for many, 622 00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:27,760 many, many years. If you read the digest, we have been rolling taxes back. 623 00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:33,839 » So in retrospect, we are behind. Mhm. >> We have to catch up and we have to be 624 00:52:30,559 --> 00:52:39,040 great stewards of the money in order to in order to even just maintain 625 00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:44,160 » if we we can't stay at the same level and maintain Garden City. It just won't 626 00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:49,200 work. Especially talking about the going into the the balance and you know taking 627 00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:54,240 away from the savings, we'll be broke before we know it as a city. So we have 628 00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:58,400 to increase and make things better. Thank you, Mr. Mayor. 629 00:52:55,520 --> 00:53:03,280 » Thank you. Entertain a motion. >> Make a motion for approval. 630 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:08,480 » Second the motion. >> Roll call vote on the motion. 631 00:53:05,359 --> 00:53:12,160 » Council member Bruner. >> Council member Figale. 632 00:53:10,720 --> 00:53:14,559 » Council member Hall >> approve. 633 00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,880 » Council member Lacer >> approve. 634 00:53:15,359 --> 00:53:18,720 » Council member Mars >> approve. 635 00:53:17,599 --> 00:53:26,079 » And Mayor Campbell >> approve. Motion carries. 636 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:29,040 Resolution Village Point Town as final subdivision. Can you read it by hand on 637 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:33,280 it, please? M. >> A resolution of the mayor and council 638 00:53:31,200 --> 00:53:40,640 approving the final subdivision map for the subdivision of a 17.69 acre track 639 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:45,920 located at zero Constantine Road into 76 proposed town home lots owned by Simco 640 00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:49,839 at Mosswood LLC. >> Entertain a motion. 641 00:53:48,240 --> 00:53:53,440 Make a motion that we approve the resolution for the Village Point Town 642 00:53:51,359 --> 00:53:55,359 Homes final subdivision map on Constine Road. 643 00:53:54,319 --> 00:53:58,240 » Second. >> Roll call vote on the motion. 644 00:53:57,040 --> 00:54:00,240 » Council member Bruner, >> approve. 645 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,000 » Council member Figale, >> approve. 646 00:54:00,960 --> 00:54:04,079 » Council member Hall, >> approved. 647 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:06,160 » Council member Lasser, >> approved. 648 00:54:04,800 --> 00:54:07,760 » Council member Morris, >> approve. 649 00:54:06,720 --> 00:54:12,800 » And Mayor Campbell, >> approve. Motion carry. Resolution, 650 00:54:09,839 --> 00:54:15,920 general development plan for 129 St. Joseph Avenue. Can you read that by 651 00:54:14,319 --> 00:54:19,280 heading only, please, ma'am? A resolution by the mayor and council 652 00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:24,480 approving the general development plan application of Ashley Mosley as 653 00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:30,240 authorized agent for Jonathan Austin for the construction of a 6,000 ft² metal 654 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:35,200 building partitioned into four 1500 ft² units to be used andor lease for heavy 655 00:54:33,040 --> 00:54:41,040 commercial use on a project site measuring 0.42 acres at 129 St. Joseph 656 00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:43,599 Avenue in Garden City, Georgia. >> Make a motion to table this for further 657 00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:47,119 discussion. >> Second motion. 658 00:54:45,760 --> 00:54:52,480 So what they're going to do is they're going to table this until pent notice. 659 00:54:51,280 --> 00:54:57,119 They're not going to make a decision tonight. 660 00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:58,800 Enter enter entertain a motion on it. >> Motion has been made. 661 00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:01,520 » Yes, sir. >> Roll call vote on the motion. 662 00:55:00,240 --> 00:55:03,359 » Council member Bruner >> approve. 663 00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:05,119 » Council member Figale >> approve. 664 00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:07,040 » Council member Hall >> approve. 665 00:55:05,839 --> 00:55:08,960 » Council member Lacer >> approve. 666 00:55:07,599 --> 00:55:10,559 » Council member Mars >> approve. 667 00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:14,800 » And Mayor Campbell >> approve. And motion carry. Entertain a 668 00:55:12,400 --> 00:55:17,920 motion for adjournment. Make a motion to adjourn. 669 00:55:16,079 --> 00:55:21,480 » Second. >> Meeting is ajourned. 670 00:55:31,368 --> 00:55:33,388 [music]