[0:00] the September 8th meeting of the Garden Grove City Council. Madame clerk, please [0:03] call roll. [0:06] » Council member Dwin >> here. [0:08] » Council member Tran >> here. [0:10] » Council member Doven >> present. [0:12] » Council member Muneton >> here. [0:14] » Council member Edesty >> here. [0:16] » Mayor Prom Brigham >> here. [0:18] » And Mayor Clumpenstein >> here. [0:21] » Uh this will take us to our invocation and pledge of allegiance. Our invocation [0:24] will be led by assistant city manager Matt West. And if I could have Ariana [0:27] Ersteaggi from District 6 lead us in the pledge, please. [0:34] » Thank you. Please prepare yourself according to your faith. Dear Lord, we [0:38] give thanks for the opportunity to serve our community and for the people who [0:41] call Garden Grove home. Grant our city council wisdom, integrity, and [0:46] compassion as they consider the matters before them. Help them listen [0:49] thoughtfully, act fairly, and make decisions that promote safety, [0:53] opportunity, dignity, and the well-being of all residents. [0:56] And Lord, please bless our city, its families, its workers, and all those who [1:00] serve the community. We ask this in your name. Amen. [1:05] » Please remove your hats, face the flag, and [1:11] flag the United States of America and to the [1:16] stands. One nation, indivisible, [1:21] and for all. [1:33] All right, thank you. Uh, that moves us into presentations this evening. Item [1:37] number one. >> Item number one is the hazardous [1:39] materials incident update and city manager Lisa King will introduce the [1:44] item. >> Thank you, Madame Mayor, members of the [1:46] city council. Uh we have Steve Carling from GKN providing an update to the [1:51] council relating to some next steps relating to um the GKN um recovery [1:56] process. [2:06] » Madame Mayor, city council members, I'm pleased to be with you again tonight [2:09] representing GKN. Um, this will be somewhat of a short update, but [2:13] obviously whatever questions you may have as we move along, I'm happy to uh [2:16] answer them. Um, when I was here two weeks ago, I announced the claim process [2:21] of up to 100 million, and we've said we'll be working as quickly and [2:26] diligently as possible to open up that claims process this fall. I'm happy to [2:31] report now that um we expect to open up the claims process, be open for [2:36] submission of claims next month in October. [2:40] um in this in conjunctions on we we start finalizing some details working in [2:45] conjunction with the DA's office um once we have the final date and we're a [2:50] little more close to it we'll be announcing a slew of community events um [2:56] um phone banks that will be set up um we'll also announce where the location [3:00] of a storefront for a physical location for people to come in to submit claims [3:03] and things like that'll all be conjunction with that um kickoff event [3:07] which right now for we expect to happen in October. [3:13] Beyond that, I would just say we continue to work um diligently in the [3:17] plant. Um last two weeks ago, I offered up the opportunity for community or [3:23] council members to come visit the site. Um that offer, reiterate that offer. I [3:27] think it's really hard to explain what we do unless you actually come and see [3:30] it. It's a very unique site. Um so that offer still stands. And with that, I [3:35] think that is the extent of the update I have at this moment in time. Happy to [3:39] take questions. >> Thank you, Mr. Carlin. Council member, [3:43] » uh, thank you, mayor, and members of, uh, our council. I did manage the tour [3:48] earlier today and, um, uh, I had full access. I was able to see [3:55] everything I wanted to see. Um, even the expansion that's, um, under [4:00] construction. And I think that's going to be um [4:05] uh an asset to our city. We're going to add another 100 170 jobs at the new [4:13] facility. Uh that will take our employment at Jan around 700 [4:19] employees that are going to be fully employed. And that um to me is actually [4:24] good news. So, I I hope that we can um get going on that as well as the um uh [4:32] get back into um productions because a lot of our um major airliners are [4:39] depending on their canopies and their windows getting um met there. There's [4:48] there's actually a backlog of orders. Um, so I hope the council uh will also [4:55] take tours. They're very open to it. Um, so you can see for yourself what's [5:01] happening there. And I didn't feel unsafe or unwell at all. Was very just [5:06] like any manufacturing plant that I've been on. [5:10] There's really nothing special going on there, honestly. So, I would um [5:16] encourage my fellow council members and others um to schedule a tour and go see [5:21] for theelves. Don't take my word for it. We got to put some eyeballs on it, like [5:25] I said, and reach your own conclusions. Thank you. [5:31] » Yeah. Um, since I got you here, can you can you and you might not be able to [5:35] elaborate yet, but have you been has uh GKN been looking seriously into changing [5:40] some of the safety protocols uh going forward? And if so, can you elaborate on [5:46] some what those may be? Or maybe it's not appropriate right now to talk about [5:50] that? I don't know. >> No, I think it's appropriate to talk [5:53] about. We have so as you know we brought in outside experts both safety experts [5:57] and chemical experts and people who deal with piping and that sort of thing to [6:00] look at the entire system. Um they've they've recommended and we're installing [6:05] significant safety enhancements and monitoring equipment to prevent what [6:09] happened from ever happening again. Um so it's addition to above what's the [6:12] norm that you would have in there and those things are working closely every [6:16] step of the way with the regulator. So everything that we have an enhancement [6:19] or a new monitor whatever those everything gets approved. So we're not [6:23] opening up anything or we're not taking any steps without it having all the [6:27] necessary approvals all the way through. So, we're working with, like I said, the [6:31] outside thirdparty experts, the regulatory community, and also the [6:35] safety experts to make sure. And then the last thing I would say is once in [6:39] order for us to get started, remember we have that independently court approved [6:44] um safety program that will be submitted with before we start operations and that [6:51] will be approved before we start operations. [6:54] And will that include um limiting the amount of chemicals on site or limiting [6:59] less than what was there before >> at this time? I'm not sure I want to go [7:03] into the detail of that. I'm actually not privy to that detail, but [7:08] » thank you. >> Yeah. [7:11] » Um thank you for being here with us. Um I have a a question that concerned from [7:17] a lot of my constituents. um for the $100 million compensation. [7:25] Number one, when when actually the the money can [7:31] distribute to uh my constit uh constituent's [7:36] hand since I know a lot of them are in trouble financially [7:42] because of the incident. Can you tell me how fast and how easy [7:48] they can obtain the money? >> So, what we pledged is to make it as [7:52] accessible and efficient as possible going through. So, that includes having [7:56] bit having access to multiple languages and things like that, multiple avenues [8:00] for submitting claims, whether it be online, those who want to come in person [8:04] and do it and get help and provide that as they go through. Um, and then we've [8:07] actually committed to expediting as quickly as possible the payments. I [8:12] can't give you an exact date of how long that'll be how long it'll be from [8:16] submission submission of the claims to actually um delivering a check or [8:22] something along those lines. But I can pledge to you that we're going as fast [8:25] as we can and this system is set up to be as efficient. That's one of the [8:28] things that we're taking to make sure we're dotting all the eyes and crossing [8:31] the tees to make this as efficient as possible so that when it rolls out we [8:35] can do we can get money in the folks pockets as soon as possible. [8:39] » Yeah. So uh this [snorts] question is for the city manager and uh [8:44] uh city attorney. Uh I know um our city management been working relentlessly [8:51] with the GKN. So would you let the people know our [8:57] resident know what is going on with the working uh with or negotiating with GKN? [9:06] » Thank you madame mayor, members of the city council. Council member Wyn, we are [9:10] continue to have ongoing dialogue with GKN and their representative including [9:14] Mr. Carlin. We have stressed the importance of the council direction and [9:18] that's accountability and transparency. They have requested a timeline in which [9:22] the claims process will be advanced. Hence, uh Mr. Collins's presence today [9:27] to communicate to the council that a target date has been identified and [9:31] announced in October. Obviously, this is an end our conversation. He hears from [9:36] me regularly and um very clearly that uh the claims program is integral. In [9:43] addition, any additional improvements whether it's the expansion, whether it's [9:47] addressing um mitigation to the tanks, uh we are working closely with our [9:52] building department as alongside uh public works relating to storm water [9:56] control. There is extensive dialogue with all the regulatory agencies and [10:01] it's just not just the city involved at this point. We do try to stay in [10:05] communication and a touch point regularly with um GKN and their [10:09] respective team of consultants and um each week there's uh progress made. Um [10:15] it's not an easy um transition but we're working through that process and it's [10:20] very technical. I wish I understand construction lingo. It's it's um but [10:25] there are way smarter folks in our city staff team that's able to assist us [10:29] through that process. So we are monitoring daily and regularly. So, um, [10:33] and I continue to update the council when, um, new information becomes [10:36] available. >> Yeah. Would you please, [10:38] » Madam Mayor? >> Yeah, [10:39] » I do have one more quick question. Um, the 100, uh, million [10:45] is, um, not as a result of any court action. This is not the result of any [10:52] uh, oh, I don't know, arm twisting or [10:56] anything. This is GKN's effort to uh, make people right. the the folks that [11:02] were affected. Correct. >> So, as we pledged right afterwards that [11:05] we wanted to make things right and as you know, I've said here, we've been [11:08] assessing a claims process for quite some time in order to do that. So, that [11:12] is being done by us. >> This wasn't court ordered though. This [11:16] this was GKN just doing it. >> We do appreciate the uh being able to [11:22] discuss this with the DA's office because it makes it more robust and a [11:25] stronger claims program, which is what we all want in the end. [11:28] » Okay. And can you assure um this dis that any of the current lawsuits that [11:35] are going on involving this um won't take money from this fund as well? [11:42] » That's a question I think I would have to defer to the lawyers at this stage of [11:46] the game. But our fund is set up to get money to the individuals and small [11:52] businesses up to hund00 million who are directly impacted by the evacuation. So [11:57] I hopefully that >> so if there's a judgment let's say on [12:02] one of the class action lawsuits or something like that they could [12:05] conceivably be dipping into this fund as well. [12:09] » I wouldn't even be able to speculate on that hypothetical at this stage of the [12:12] game. That really is a question for the lawyers. [12:15] » Thank you >> colleagues. Anyone else? [12:18] » Hello Mr. Carlin. Uh, a question that has come before me for my own [12:24] constituents has been with regards to things like missed wages and missed [12:28] opportunities to go and work in their place of business um because it was [12:32] within the evacuation zone. So my question for you with regards to this [12:37] claims process is would my constituents who were affected because they weren't [12:42] able to go to their place of work or to the business that they own in this [12:45] evacuation area would they qualify for this claims process? So the claims [12:52] process itself, the overall things that we looking at and obviously the details [12:56] aren't finalized yet, but some of the major items that we've been looking at [12:59] are obviously hotel stays or you know any kind of lodging at that stage of the [13:03] game, transportation associated with that, meals, loss of use and loss of [13:09] wages. So the two circumstances you think would be encompassed I believe by [13:13] those last two items in there. Obviously, I can't with every item's [13:17] going to be specific to that, but those are things we are definitely looking at [13:20] and those are things that are we envisioned as being part of the hund00 [13:23] million claim. >> Thank you. Thank you, Mr. Carlin. My [13:26] other question has to do with the matter of the town hall. Um, and I'm not going [13:31] to let it go, Mr. Carlin, because I do recall that you committed to having a [13:36] town hall, and I want to make sure that we hold you to that. uh the community at [13:41] large does deserve accountability and the opportunity to ask you questions. [13:46] Where are we with regards to the organization of the town hall? Um what [13:50] what's the hold up here? >> So that was what I talked about before [13:53] is that we want to do everything kind of injunction with the act conjunction not [13:57] injunction conjunction with rolling out the actual date of okay here's when the [14:01] claims process is going to open up. And so we'll have the community events that [14:05] will go along with being able to get information about the claims process, [14:08] but also there'll be plenty of opportunity for anyone and anyone to [14:11] speak with me. We expect this to be an open and be able to ask questions and [14:15] gather information whether it be information related to the claims [14:18] process or just general information about GKN. [14:20] » So the they will be open to the general public. [14:23] » Yes. >> Thank you, Mr. Carlin. [14:27] » Um I did have that question as well. So thank you for answering that. Um, and [14:31] then another question I did have was uh what will GKN do to regain the [14:36] community's trust? What are some things that you foresee? I know that um uh [14:42] the fund is one thing, but to gain the trust of a community that still lives in [14:47] your backyard and uh what can you do? Um it it doesn't have to be well if you can [14:54] also um come back with more um suggestions as to how can you regain the [15:00] trust of our community because this is something that um many people not just [15:05] our city had to go through. So what are your thoughts on that? [15:10] » So there's no doubt that that's going to be one of our focuses um as we move [15:14] forward. the immediate was look, how do we make things right for the immediate [15:19] impact we caused to the folks and things like that. But if you remember when we [15:22] first started out, we pledged an additional $1 million, which we haven't [15:26] even looked at right now, which is to go into the community and community events [15:31] or sponsoring different things or how best do we deploy that to make an impact [15:35] on the community right away. And then longer term, it's things like, you know, [15:39] having the third-party safety plan and all that sort of stuff and being more [15:43] open about what we're doing and things like that. Going through holding the [15:46] community events. Those are the first steps. And then progressively as we move [15:50] along, hopefully we can work with the city council and the local area to try [15:54] and figure out what's the best way to do that. It's it's not something I can say [15:58] overnight, right? Nobody's going to trust me at the end of the day. We have [16:00] to prove it by actions and what we're doing and both what we're doing in the [16:04] community and what we're doing at the site. [16:07] That's all for me. Thank you. Sure. >> Um I just have three quick notes um for [16:13] you. So I go to St. fully cap church which is in Stanton and they have a lot [16:18] of choir member and parisher that they have to they was evacuated and so um [16:24] just three quick thing first when you have the process for the resident to [16:30] clamford I hope it's going to be you know easy and if people have question [16:34] they will be able to call somebody to help not just sometime you know you you [16:38] just get stuck and so that first and second when during that night when we [16:43] have to evacuate There were a couple of businesses that came and helped me with, [16:48] you know, helping the evacuees and um the shelter and bringing food and all [16:53] that and they actually were in that zone and they were evacuated. So um another [16:58] thing relate to them too in a way that hopefully um you will be able to help [17:03] the small businesses to you know go through that and feel that you know they [17:09] you care and as you could see a lot of people in the room you know come here [17:13] and raise that voice and the last thing kind of agree with my true council [17:18] member here that the town hall that they have been they have question and they [17:22] want to hear from you. I know that you come here and we appreciate that. But [17:26] they also want to talk to you directly. So I hope that's going to happen soon. [17:31] That way you will be able to answer to the resident. That's it. Thank you. Oh, [17:36] one last thing. I did the walk and I got um some feedback from the resident [17:42] beside what in here. We also have people brought up that they would like to see [17:49] you here because they don't want the job that you know the people that working [17:54] that lose their job. So I just they asked me to bring that feedback here. So [17:58] I just want to relay the message. Thank you. [18:02] » Yes. >> Can I [18:05] » Yes. I heard you mention about the each uh case you're going to be evaluate [18:11] before you uh fund down the compensation. I would like to know if [18:16] you going to uh publicly let people know what kind of requirements that will make [18:23] them qualify for your compensation. [cough and clears throat] [18:27] » So the details of that will become as we as we roll out the plan more so the next [18:31] one. So I don't want to get into specific details, but I would say the [18:34] purpose of it is to get is to make it right with the folks who were directly [18:39] impacted by the evacuation. So those who were in the evacuation zone, the small [18:42] businesses in the evacuation zone, that is the focus of the and that's the [18:47] reason we've set up the claims program. So those would be the people we would be [18:51] targeting. So um the folks who were directly impacted by the evacuation and [18:55] ordered out through that make sense. I hope that answer your question. I can't [19:00] give you the details specifically, but look, we're trying to make things right. [19:04] So, we're we're not going [snorts] at this trying to figure out, okay, you [19:07] didn't dot your eye or cross your tees. >> I understand uh your purpose, but in the [19:12] same time, I I would like the public to know and uh to make uh to understand [19:18] exactly how they require before, you know, they submit. [19:22] » Uh that's why I like you to uh be able to submit your requirement publicly. So [19:29] the people know or at least let us know. So we'll we'll let people know either [19:34] way. >> That is definitely going to happen when [19:36] we do the community events and things like that. It'll be very clear. [19:39] » I'm really one of these days I'm going to get right without smacking this [19:42] microphone through one event. But we'll go through all the event all the uh [19:46] stages and what the different things. So I think that will be very clear. [19:49] » Yeah. And uh one last thing that um my con constituents were talking about is [19:56] you know $100 million is a great step that you did uh G GP uh GKN did but for [20:03] 50,000 people evacuate and the business loss [20:09] that's merely nothing. So I hope I hope you working on it. [20:15] um how you call this have the sentimental [20:19] think about it compensate the people better [20:24] that's all my concern thank you thank you colleagues thank you Mr. [20:29] Carlin, we look forward to more information as you roll out your town [20:31] hall. Obviously, that's still very important to all of us here on the dis [20:34] as well as the claims program. You mentioned perhaps October. Um, so we'll [20:38] be anxious to to learn more and I'm sure more of that information will come on [20:42] your website and and so forth. Obviously, the community is very anxious [20:45] to have that opportunity. So, thank you. >> Thank you for the opportunity. [20:54] » All right. Uh, with that, we will move into oral communications. [21:00] Uh, we ask that you keep your public comments respectful and within a [21:03] two-minute time limit. Any person making impertinent, slanderous, or profane [21:06] remarks or who becomes boisterous while addressing the city council be called to [21:09] order. If the conduct continues, you'll be barred from addressing the city [21:12] council any further and removed from the meeting or remote participation. The [21:16] city clerk will now provide instructions for remote participants. [21:20] » Thank you, mayor. Oral communications is the time for general public comments to [21:24] address the city council and the successor agency heard simultaneously. [21:28] If you are joining the meeting through the Zoom app virtually raise your hand [21:32] at this time. You will be called by name when it is your turn to speak and you [21:36] will be prompted to unmute your microphone on your device. You must [21:40] click unmute. Please identify the agenda item you are commenting on. Then proceed [21:45] with your comment. You will have two minutes. If you are joining the meeting [21:49] by telephone, you may request to speak by dialing star9 from your phone. You [21:54] will be called by either the last three digits of your phone number or your [21:57] caller ID. You must dial star six to unmute. Please state your name and the [22:03] agenda item you are commenting on. Then proceed with your comment. You will have [22:07] two minutes. At this time, we will begin with in-person speakers followed by [22:11] remote participants. First three speakers were going to be [22:15] Mosen Ahmed followed by an and then seven mot [22:28] council Tiger Construction as you guys know. Uh [22:33] last I was here the the vote to have the uh contract [22:39] terminated and transferred was deferred uh for two weeks. It's been two weeks. I [22:44] don't see it on the agenda. Some you know still came today. Want to let you [22:49] guys know we're still willing to meet and find a constructive path forward. I [22:53] did reach out to everyone individually for a meeting. No one responded. You [22:57] know that is disappointing but uh once again we're still here and we're looking [23:00] for a constructive path forward. So, please reach out and I'd love to talk to [23:04] any of you and uh we can uh have a fruitful relationship together. [23:07] » Thank you for your time and consideration. [23:11] » Thank you. Next speaker an [23:19] » good evening city council mayor and pro Tim. My name is an uh I'm going to be [23:24] reading this and then I'm going to be giving each of you a copy because I only [23:28] have two minutes and so I want to make sure I get all of my message to you. [23:33] According to the Islamic Quran, which is their guide book, all people who are not [23:38] Islamic, that is who are not Muslims, are called infidels. [23:42] Their ultimate goals are to get rid of all infidels, no matter what other [23:47] religion they are or if they are no religion at all. They have a playbook [23:51] they have been using for centuries. They manipulate peaceibly and then little by [23:57] little they they and then little by little they take over [24:02] using more and more um manipulations, violence and force. They have been doing [24:08] this in all countries not just the USA. They will not pledge allegiance to the [24:13] flag of the United States of America or what it stands for liberty and justice [24:18] for all. They believe in the total destruction of the United States [24:22] Constitution, our Bill of Rights, and all American freedoms and our culture. [24:27] They believe in lying, cheating, stealing, and killing when necessary in [24:32] order to bring in their political ideology, masking as a religion. They [24:37] are in cahoots with communism and socialism, a one world dictator, [24:42] Antichrist, who is both Islamic and and communist. They do not integrate [24:49] Has it been two minutes? >> Uh, no. [24:53] » They do not integrate with our culture, but live a totally separated, [24:58] non-assimilated culture, having their own shopping centers, their own schools, [25:03] their own moss, and like a wild donkey, fighting every which way, constantly. [25:10] See cities, see Islamic cities in Texas, like Katy for example. Uh, by the way, [25:16] there are 433 434 Islamic temples in Texas. [25:23] » Or the one next to the training. >> Ma'am, I'm sorry. Your time is up. [25:26] » Okay. >> Thank you. [25:28] » And [applause] [25:32] I will take that paperwork. And >> thank you. [25:38] Next speaker seven. [25:46] » After seven we will have Margaret. After Margaret it's Dawn. [25:52] Seven. Go ahead. >> I'm a res. [26:00] It has been more than two months since since Gan is it has had their an [26:06] incident and they're still allowed to continue expansion and $100 million is [26:12] not is not a way to get accountability. If they want to take accountability, [26:17] they have to ensure that this that their facility is safe and not to like [26:21] endanger GR growth working-class residents and $100 million is not going [26:26] to take is not going to take is not going to take make us believe that they [26:29] that they would that we can trust and work near us or going to wear [26:33] accountability and not to and and not to mention why and not to mention how can [26:38] we be so sure that they're safe? Why haven't they released things like [26:41] earlier of this meeting? like how can we trust them to continue operate in Garden [26:46] Grove endangering so many lives and and and just that $1 million it's not going [26:52] to it's not going to make them safer. It's just going to it's just going to [26:54] possibly bring another instance is going to come around potentially because of [26:58] their poor safety record and also to not to mention and and and also like not to [27:04] mention but but them and danger but also like contributing to like genocide in [27:09] the Middle East as well when when like there's new strikes in in Iran and a [27:14] bunch and and more killing in Palestine. G Can is is contributing that and I [27:19] don't understand why would would we be expendable just a fund in the US [27:24] Imperial's war effort that's just fueled by pure Islamophobia and and how is and [27:31] how is this going to like make us believe that like because of this war [27:36] that we became trustee can't work near us and which which is not like they're [27:40] there have poor safety record and hundred million dollars is ain't going [27:43] to change our minds it's just that like how can we be so gestured or safe and it [27:48] could endanger many lives, shut down businesses and and disrupt daily [27:52] livelihoods and we and we are not going to sit by this and we are not going to [27:56] be abide by this and we're not going to conform to this. We want Gan to take [28:00] accountability and not not by the way our accountability. [28:05] [applause] >> City city clerk I need to call for a [28:08] fiveminute recess please. [applause] [28:27] We [34:52] call the meeting back to order. Apologize uh madame mayor wasn't feeling [34:56] well so I am going to step in for her for the time being. Uh can we uh [35:01] continue with the oral communications please? [35:03] » Yes mayor Pam uh Bridegum. So currently we will start with Margaret. [35:09] Uh next speaker following Margaret we have to Don Thomas [35:14] and after Dawn we will have Natalie Nellison. [35:25] » Thank you city council. Um, I appreciate the privilege of being able to talk with [35:30] you and share my concerns as a citizen of Garden Grove. [35:36] » Can't hear you. >> Oh, [35:38] okay. And um, thank you very much for um, allowing me to do this. I just I'm [35:44] just here as a citizen wanting to represent the liberties and freedoms [35:48] that um, so many of our families have fought for. uh my my grandfather, my my [35:56] uh father, my relatives have all been in the military to protect the freedoms of [36:01] the United States of America as well as in law enforcement, protecting citizens. [36:06] And so I just want to um say that as a citizen here, my hope is that all of us [36:12] pursue the um safety of our city and protect that because we're here together [36:20] and that we would live in harmony and that there would not be um uh [36:26] interruptions or inconsider not considerations for other people's [36:31] beliefs. And so my concern is that when we move forward with um [36:40] areas of uh groups that are not wanting to um live in harmony but be dominant [36:49] that we would consider that as something that we would um not have uh as a part [36:57] of the city um because it's a threat to our safety. I [37:03] think we do need to have police enforcement. I think we do need to have [37:07] strong leadership that um everyone in the world comes to the United States of [37:12] America for and we can't have that freedom if it is um being ignored that [37:18] there are positions that are trying to oppose that and we have to consider not [37:25] ourselves but our children and our grandchildren. And so we can take an a [37:31] shortterm >> your time is up. [37:33] » Oh, thank you. Thank you very much for your time. God bless you. [37:37] » Next speaker, Don Thomas. [37:45] [clears throat] >> Does it need to? Okay. [37:49] [sighs] My name is Don Thomas. I'm from the city of Garden Grove. And um I'd [37:55] like to um thank GKn for coming and speaking and um uh filling us in on some [38:03] of the uh money that has come in. I do have friends that were affected um just [38:10] by the leak part of it where the air was um had affect affected her lungs and so [38:18] I was concerned about that um making sure that she gets taken care of um [38:23] because she did have to go to emergency. Um, I know that um it did get over very [38:29] quickly and I really appreciate um everything that was done on on behalf of [38:36] uh all US constituents. Um I know that um it actually was over very quickly [38:43] because I I had worked with MMA in my life and um once it hardens once it gets [38:49] hot it hardens immediately and it cracked the cylinder. So, um it was [38:53] mainly the fumes that were the issue and uh I don't think there was as much of an [38:59] issue um that we didn't need to even be closed down for as long as we did, but [39:03] I'm glad it ended quickly. So, I thank you for that and I'm glad GKn is still [39:08] continuing um to expand here because it is good um for our city. Um it brings in [39:14] money for the city and not only that um across our nation. Um it helps out with [39:20] uh you know having aerospace and flying the airplanes. Um I was con concerned [39:26] about the money that I found out that um Gavin Newsome and Shiff got and where [39:30] was that money going? So I guess we're going to have to address uh the state of [39:35] California on that part because they did get money. We we looked it up and I just [39:40] want to thank uh all of you for everything that you've been doing for [39:43] us. Uh we appreciate it and um I bless you in the name of Yahusha Hamashiach, [39:49] Jesus the Christ. [applause] [39:52] » Next speaker, Natalie Nellison. [39:58] » Hi, good evening. My name is Natalie Nellison and I grew up in Garden Grove [40:03] and I just want to thank you for your service. Um I came because my friend [40:08] asked me to come because the last city council meeting um there were a lot of [40:13] um yelling and people weren't able to speak and like Margaret said it's very [40:19] important that we [clears throat] stand for the flag because that's what gives [40:22] us our liberties. It's actually God but that flag is under God. And I really [40:28] feel sorry for some of these young people who are misguided. I my heart [40:33] really breaks for them. And um it's important that we speak truth and that [40:38] we're not um that we don't bow down when people are bullies and um that you know [40:47] we respect each other and when people come to this country it's good when [40:55] they're respectful of our laws of our culture and not try to indoctrinate try [41:02] to take over. So, um, that's why I'm here. I just wanted to stand up and [41:06] speak truth and thank you for your service because it's not easy being in [41:11] public service and my I have a whole um line of people who sacrifice for the [41:19] flag and so it's very important and I think a lot of young people don't [41:23] realize that what was involved. I mean, a lot of young men not older than them [41:32] sacrificed their life and so it's not a laughing matter and um really the people [41:38] they're aligning with they don't care about them and I just I think it's sad. [41:43] So I just want to thank you. Next three speakers [applause] [41:49] we have Honey Ruiz followed by Dylan Teuzman [41:55] and then Robert Gutierrez. [clears throat] Honey Ruiz. [42:09] » Hi, my name is Honey and I do live in Garden Grove. Um, I want to kind of [42:13] address this whole JK J GKN thing. Um, honestly, I would love to talk to you [42:21] after this because with all the research I did, it became very clear to me that [42:27] the substance inside that tank that everybody was freaking out over was [42:32] liquid acrylic. You know, like the stuff you put on your nails, the stuff that [42:35] they make our foam screens out of. wouldn't have a phone screen if you [42:39] didn't have what they make. You guys wouldn't have any screens to play with. [42:45] Um, out of an overabundance of caution, I [42:49] get why the city moved people out. Um, but I think it became really clear [42:56] pretty early on there was never going to be an explosion. [43:00] Um, so you know, I get why you guys did it, [43:05] but I I do think that the fear-mongering about this chemical should really really [43:10] stop because all anybody has to do is look it up and you'll see what it is. I [43:16] mean, I'm not a scientist. I looked it up. I read about it, figured out it was [43:21] liquid acrylic. And what you had after that tank, inside that tank was a giant [43:27] hardened piece of acrylic because it got too warm. Something failed in the c in [43:33] the in the refrigeration. It reached a certain temperature and everything [43:37] hardened. It's all that that happened. The worst thing that could have happened [43:41] is because of the expansion of the heat of it hardening, it might have cracked [43:46] it, but that's about as far as it was going to go. You guys moved out blocks [43:50] and blocks and I mean the area you guys cleared was insane. So many people [43:55] displaced. Um [43:59] if I may uh ask you later or or suggest to you hold that town hall meeting and [44:05] explain to the people what was in that tank and what happened so this craziness [44:11] can stop because this is insane. >> Madam, your time is up. [44:15] » Thank you. [applause] Next speaker, Dylan Deuzman. [44:21] [applause] [44:24] » Uh, good evening, city council. My name is Dylan Duzman, a Garden Grove resident [44:28] for the last seven years, and I'm a member of Anuk Bayan, a Filipino [44:31] organization fighting for the rights of Filipinos. Um, the $100 million, right, [44:35] it's a victory hard one through the continuous pressure from our community [44:40] and from many pro people organizations here tonight demanding accountability [44:43] and fighting for genuine change. However, the fight is far from over. Uh, [44:47] this hund00 million can only pay out an estimated $2,000 per individual and has [44:52] arrived three months late. We've met residents who sustained injuries past [44:55] the evacuation who need more than $2,000. Small businesses in the evac [44:59] zone lost days of revenue and more and they need more than $2,000. Filipino [45:04] workers who lost their jobs, their source of income, who need more than [45:07] $2,000. And why should they be forced to wait another month for an unconfirmed [45:10] day in October? So, while the $3 million mutual aid fund was a drop in the [45:14] bucket, this $100 million claims program is just a bigger drop in the bucket [45:19] compared to the multi-billion dollar bucket of revenue that Gan earns. And [45:23] from the last city council meeting, we heard stories from workers who don't [45:26] want to lose their jobs at Gan, who depend on that income. That only [45:30] emphasized that this delayed attempt for compensation isn't enough to support the [45:33] economic needs of its own workers who bore the brunt of not only working in [45:37] the hazardous conditions at the facility, but were forced out of work by [45:40] GKE's original fatal mistake and its disregard for basic safety. And to hear [45:45] that, you know, city council representatives took a store a tour of [45:48] the facility and that was enough to reassure you of its safety when we've [45:50] been told two meetings ago to wait on agencies to finish reports on this [45:54] facility and that we can't say if this facility is safe to operate without [45:57] those reports. Instead of taking serious the demands of trans transparency, we're [46:01] being told that Gant's expansion is imminent. We all want community safety. [46:05] If the committee was able to achieve a concrete step towards winning these [46:08] demands, we will continue to show up until the people are put over profit, [46:11] until the safety of our community is protected and a moratorium is put on [46:14] Genan's operations, and until we make Genan truly pay. Thank you. [46:19] » Next speaker for Rupier [applause] [46:32] kind of tall here. Hi, my name is Roberto Gutierrez here for B&D towing. [46:36] Um, kind of want to say thank you guys just for being the public servants that [46:40] you guys are. Honestly, it's not it's not easy. Um, it's crazy to love a city [46:44] so much as we've come to love Garden Grove. We've been towing for Garden [46:48] Grove for the police department since 2008 and we've come to do everything we [46:52] can possibly do for it. We love it so much. We we've we've got scholarship. I [46:56] mean, the the stuff that we've done so much for the city is because because the [47:01] love for it you guys got you can't you wouldn't be doing what you do if you [47:03] didn't love the city. You wouldn't deal with a harassment that you deal if you [47:07] didn't love what you do, right? What we do for the Garden Grove Police [47:11] Department is because we want to serve. We want to serve the officers. We want [47:15] to get there quick so they can be off the road. They could be on to the next [47:17] person that needs their help. We do it because we love them. We and they they [47:20] like the motors are very picky about their bikes. They request us because [47:23] they want us only to move their bikes. With time, you guys, over the years, we [47:28] went from five companies to three companies to two companies to now one [47:31] where it's just us. It sounds good, but it's also it's been [47:35] it's been we've shaped our company where we had to stop doing all the other [47:40] business because we wanted to be there for you guys. So much so, I I was at an [47:44] interview for the San Police Department panel and they say, "Hey, okay, we if we [47:48] consider you guys, are you going to treat us the way you treat Garden PD? [47:52] They were jealous the way we treat Garden Row PD. Right. We we we sh we [47:57] hired the drivers. We got the trucks. We got a facility on the on the west side [48:00] to make sure that we were there for them. Right. On topic now is they're [48:05] considering you guys are considering contracts for three companies. I get it. [48:09] For safety reasons, you might have to add a company. But three companies you [48:12] have to understand a financial burden that we've done. We've given everything [48:15] we have. We have shaped our company to be providing for you guys as solos to so [48:20] they wouldn't miss anything. We were there for the what JK and our trucks [48:24] were on standby there ready for them, right? We we're not the police [48:28] department. We're not the fire department. We have to make these funds [48:30] for drivers to stand by and be at the ready, right? So, I do consider I ask [48:34] you guys to consider I get it. You have to add more companies. I can I would ask [48:38] you to consider two, not three to help us. [48:41] » Sir, your time is up, sir. >> I don't want to fire drivers that that [48:44] have given everything to the city. Thank Our next three speakers will be Sophia [48:48] followed by Mariela and then Andy Lee. Sophia. [49:02] Hello again. Uh my name is Sophia. I'm a Garden Grove resident. I was born and [49:07] raised here. And for months I've been coming out with community to demand for [49:12] a moratorum, not a supposed moratorium on MMA. MMA isn't the problem here. It's [49:18] GKN and it's their inability to operate safely. We're demanding a moratorium on [49:24] existing, expanding, and new military manufacturing facilities and reviewing [49:28] their environmental and labor regulatory compliance. These facilities have proven [49:33] to be categorically hazardous and prone to violating environmental regulations, [49:38] labor standards, and international humanitarian law like we've seen with [49:42] GKN. In the last city council meeting, many [49:46] of you said safety was a top priority. GKN has never once in the past [49:51] prioritize safety. And now that all eyes are on them and that everyone's watching [49:55] them, they're saying that they do. But how can we trust them again? only when [49:59] the camera's on them, they're saying that they prioritize safety. How can we [50:03] allow more employees to work in this facility, if any employees? [50:08] This is a company that can never responsibly operate in our city and [50:12] never will. Today, your constituents are coming out to you with a clear demand [50:16] again for a moratorum, just like the last city council meeting and the city [50:20] council meeting before that and the one before that and the one before that. [50:23] Today, we're demanding a moratorum. don't prioritize GKN over the 50,000 [50:29] people evacuated and the thousands others in Orange County who could be [50:33] affected by this by the causes of of the MMA uh crisis that aren't even disclosed [50:41] yet. Adopt an immediate moratorium now. Thank you. [50:46] Next speaker, Mariela. [applause] [50:58] Hello, my name is Mariela and I grew up in Garden Grove. Uh, city council, you [51:04] need to impose mortorium now, especially with GKN looking to resume production as [51:08] soon as the next two weeks. The reluctance to act is confusing as this [51:13] is not uncharted territory. Back in 2023, the council adopted a 45-day [51:17] urgency moratorum that prohibited issuing new licenses for substance abuse [51:22] treatment centers in Garden Grove in order to protect the public health [51:25] safety and welfare of the community. This ordinance was was then later [51:29] extended to an additional year so that staff could have enough time to review [51:32] regulations to protect the health and safety of residents. If this was a [51:36] priority back then, why isn't it what now? There are still developing [51:40] environmental and health risks that we don't know about and its resuming [51:43] production will only exacerbate those. You have a multi-billion dollar company [51:48] profitering off of genocide and destruction operating in your backyard [51:52] that avoided a catastrophe by sheer luck. And yet you're still waiting for [51:56] after incident reports to act. You don't need to wait. There are already multiple [52:00] facts in front of you regarding GPN's negligence and multiple environmental [52:03] and work violations spanning 2018. GKN chooses to pay settlements instead of [52:08] properly responding to the needs of the community and history keeps repeating. [52:12] Compensating the community is a bare minimum GKN could do and 100 million is [52:16] not enough like many have mentioned. But after we want them gone claiming that [52:21] GKN only makes windows is misleading. Those windows are transparency canopies [52:25] that are integral to the production of F-35 fighter jets and without them [52:29] cannot function. GKN is not just another manufacturing plant. It is part of the [52:33] war supply chain that continues to bomb Palestine, Lebanon, and Iran. And they [52:37] have no place here in Garden Grove or anywhere. Stop the expansion. Implement [52:41] moratorium and GPN out now. Shame on you, Steve. [52:46] Next speaker, Andy. [applause] [52:54] Next speaker, Andy. [53:02] Following Andy, we'll have Ahmed, followed by Lynn [53:08] Gra, followed by Seline. Andy, go ahead. [53:12] » Thank you. Hello. Hi, city council and mayor and everyone here. I just want to [53:17] say really quickly, um, expanding acrylic is not dangerous. [53:23] We just scrape that thing up. Let 700 Let the 700 workers go back to work. [53:29] Don't let them lose their jobs. This is where they work. Um, acrylic is not [53:34] dangerous. So, these fearmongers need to stop it with their fear. And um, that's [53:38] that's all for that. I do want to reiterate that Islam is not a religion. [53:45] Their objective is conquest. There it says it in the Quran. Uh, it's called [53:51] tea. Basically, you could lie, cheat, murder, and you're commanded to do that. [53:59] You're commanded to do that to the infidels, which is anyone who is not [54:03] subscribed to Islam. So, what they do is they take over, and then we have Sharia [54:09] law. And Sharia law is going to be the the murder of everyone. We don't want we [54:14] want western civilization to have liberty and freedom and the and the the [54:20] rights that are afforded to everyone under Islam. Women don't have rights. [54:24] Neither do gays. Gays get tossed off of buildings for being gay and then women [54:29] have to cover their head, wear g beekeeper outfits and hijabs and they [54:34] get murdered if they don't do that. So there it's a very oppressive religion. [54:39] um if uh if their husband rapes their wife, the wife [54:44] her testimony in court, she needs um five people on her side, which is not [54:52] possible. That's not possible that they have no judicial system. So yeah, we [54:56] want freedom and liberty. And um lastly, I oppose flot cameras. I oppose data [55:04] centers. Last thing. Oh, and then one last thing. [55:08] I'm not pro- Israel either. Netanyahu needs to be arrested for his war crimes, [55:13] so I'm fair. >> Next speaker, Ahmed. [applause] [55:28] » Can I start? Okay. Sounds like Jen wants to do some identity politics, whatever. [55:35] Anyways, I'm not gonna get lost in it. Hi everyone, my name is Ahmed. I'm an OC [55:40] resident. I'm here to express my descent towards GKN and the city council. It's [55:44] been more than three months since the GKN chemical crisis. More than three [55:48] months of GKN's false promises of a town hall and being transparent. Didn't they [55:52] say that? Anyways, um more than three months of [55:57] the city council neglecting the community safety. I've spoken to several [56:02] small businesses that still expressed frustration with this crisis. Some lost [56:06] tens of thousands and were were even more worried when I showed them GKN's [56:11] history of negligence and similar crisises. They were very visibly [56:15] worried. Has GKN been to any of these small businesses? No. Has the city [56:20] council been to any of these small businesses? [56:23] No. Has GKN held a town hall? No. Have any of these crazy organizations [56:31] held a town hall? Yes. Did anyone from the city council show up? No. [56:41] What kind of equation is it that all these small businesses get hammered down [56:45] and GKN gets away with a slap on the wrist? What kind of equation is it pri [56:49] prioritizing 540 dangerous jobs and 170 new dangerous jobs so that GKN can keep [56:57] creating military military transparency canopies which are used to bomb people [57:01] all over the world. Stop acting like they just make windows for our airlines. [57:08] Don't lie in front of everyone. GK and the city council doesn't care about the [57:12] residents of Garden Grove residents of the world because it doesn't even care [57:16] about the safety of the workers who literally work for them. [57:22] We've stated before that GKN as a facility is the problem. 100 million [57:26] doesn't cover the gap. proved that GKN as a facility is a problem is that even [57:31] after they were cited about the lack of training for their employees, they [57:35] waited 11 months to address that on the and on the night of October. [57:39] » Thank you. >> Your time is up. [57:43] [applause] >> Next speaker, [cheering] [57:44] Lynn Brock. >> We have a point of order. Um, [57:51] » I know my name was not mentioned by the last speaker, but I was implicated in a [57:56] lie. You know, you implicated me, so I will have to rebut. [snorts] [58:03] I was on the ground this morning. And I don't feel unsafe and I don't feel [58:10] unwell. And [58:13] I was told by the people there that they have taken many precautions, many [58:22] including retaining outside safety experts to come and uh there are [58:29] multiple jurisdictions that will have to um allow them to be able to go into [58:36] production again. So, [58:40] uh, we're not giving them a pass. They're not off the hook. They're still [58:44] having to meet a lot of regulatory safety precautions. [58:50] So, I'm with you. I'm with you. And I know they're taking a lot of steps [58:58] to make GKEN very safe in our community. And I'll be the first to protest them if [59:05] they fail. And if there's another violation at [59:11] their facility, I'll be the first to protest. [59:15] » But until then, until then, I want to tell you something, brother. Windows [59:21] don't kill people. War criminals do. You take your fight to [59:26] the war criminals. Don't take your fight to the workers here and working [59:30] families. Hey, the city needs the revenue to keep [59:36] our city's budget healthy and to provide for everybody in this city over 200,000 [59:43] people. Okay? Windows don't kill people, man. War criminals do. You go after the [59:50] war criminals. Step it up. But your fight is not with working families. [59:56] Okay? [1:00:01] order, please. Um, I will start up the oral communications again. I just want [1:00:07] to remind everybody that the communications are supposed to be within [1:00:11] the scope of the subject matter or jurisdiction of the city council. Okay? [1:00:15] So, things we have no control over, there's it's really inappropriate to be [1:00:19] bringing those up. With that being said, the next speaker, please, [1:00:23] » Lynn Grath. [1:00:27] » Hello. Good evening, council. Um, first of all, I wanted just to share I am a [1:00:33] resident of Garden Grove. I am in Georgia's district and um I was affected [1:00:38] by the GKN incident and um I know it's still heavy on a lot of residents hearts [1:00:44] about reimbursements and you know I know it's a slow it's a very slow process but [1:00:51] my question is has there been a list provided does GKN know all of the [1:01:00] residents like all of the addresses um of all the zones [1:01:04] so that they actually have a number, an idea how many families were displaced, [1:01:10] how many people may or may not have worked. I don't know if that's in part [1:01:16] of what you all are meeting about when you talked about the October date um to [1:01:22] really establish some criteria for payouts, reimbursements. Are those [1:01:27] things in order? because I think there's a lot of people in our community that [1:01:32] would probably be willing to, you know, step up and to kind of speak other ideas [1:01:39] about what they think should be rolling out. So, the town hall, I know a lot of [1:01:43] people have brought that up, but I'm going to go to that. I think that that [1:01:46] should have been done or maybe there needs to be layers of a town hall, [1:01:50] right? It has to be a multi-step process. Is that possible to start [1:01:56] before the October date so that the community actually does get input? Maybe [1:02:03] it's a town hall meeting in one zone and then another zone and one of the other [1:02:08] zones. Right, there were three main zones that were really affected. Have we [1:02:13] gotten any feedback from the residents? I don't know. I've not seen anything in [1:02:19] the mail. Um, I get a lot of lawyers trying to bid, right? Trying to get me [1:02:25] to uh sign up, but that's kind of ridiculous. The other part is working in [1:02:30] healthcare. I know material safety data, OSHA regulations, GKN has a lot [1:02:36] » to um to be looking at. >> Thank you. [1:02:41] » Next speaker, Seline. [1:02:47] » Um, hi again everyone. My name is Seline. Um, I'm a member of the local [1:02:51] Palestinian and Muslim community. Um, I just wanted to come up again here to [1:02:56] again remind you that your constituents have been asking for a moratorium and an [1:03:00] end to the expansion since May 26th, since a few days after the crisis. And [1:03:04] we're asking this because this is within the city's power to do. We don't trust [1:03:09] GKN whether they have a town hall or not. We've been hosting our own [1:03:13] community town halls and we've been coming to share with you what people are [1:03:17] actually concerned with. And it's not just about payment. It's about [1:03:20] environmental safety. It's about the long-term health consequences because [1:03:24] we've seen disasters like this happen over and over again. We know that there [1:03:29] have been many cases where the health impacts don't even show up until many [1:03:33] years later. And by then, no accountability has been served. So, we [1:03:37] shouldn't give them another chance to fail. It's not about this one chemical [1:03:41] MMA. It's about GKN and its history of negligence. So, I'm going to just reread [1:03:45] the history of violations. It's not comprehensive, and I'm not going to even [1:03:49] have enough time to finish it because there are so many, but I'm going to read [1:03:52] them to remind you why we don't trust GKN. Why people don't feel safe living [1:03:56] near this facility. October 2018, GKN cited by the [1:04:02] California Department because it did not correct unsafe working conditions or use [1:04:06] appropriate cutting coolant. June 2019, OSHA issued six workplace safety [1:04:11] violations citations to GKN. September 2019, county health inspectors find fire [1:04:17] hazard where flammable waste was stored less than 15 meters from the property [1:04:20] line. April 2021, South Coast Air Quality Management District issued a [1:04:24] violation notice to GKN for failing to maintain emission records. February [1:04:28] 2022, OSHA issues two workplace safety citations to GKN. October 2023, about [1:04:35] 200 gallons of MMA spills during a tank transfer after a quote unquote a [1:04:39] facility operator may have left a valve open. 2023 November health inspectors [1:04:43] found unlabeled and open waste containers and MMA scrap and regular [1:04:47] trash. 2024 uh 2025 Gan Aerospace pays nearly $1 million to SQAQMD [1:04:54] in a settlement. Next speakers will be Christine Petus, [1:05:00] followed by Yay, followed by Rodrigo. [1:05:10] All right. First of all, I want to say that I'm a proud lifelong member of our [1:05:15] diverse community of Garden Grove. We welcome all cultures, races, and [1:05:19] religions. The first comment sounds so disconnected with the reality of our [1:05:24] Garden Grove communities. As an evacuee of the GKN chemical [1:05:30] incident and who lives less than a mile away, I am very concerned that GKN plans [1:05:35] to begin production again in just a couple of weeks. How has GKN reassured [1:05:40] the neighborhoods who are in close proximity of the plant? What cautionary [1:05:46] measures would be taken to ensure that the threat does not happen again? [1:05:50] Nothing concrete have we heard yet. We know that if GKN was in compliance or if [1:05:57] they just allowed the rules, if they just followed the rules, this would not [1:06:02] happen. It would not fail. How will the valves be checked or monitored? There [1:06:07] needs to be a better system to ensure compliance that works for the community. [1:06:13] There must be experts in compliance and safety to ensure a plan is in place that [1:06:18] will help build the trust of the surrounding community before any attempt [1:06:23] of production begins. I had the privilege to meet with neighbors in the [1:06:28] blast zone. All had losses and displacement, some to the extent they [1:06:32] lost a week of work as they left their equipment behind. Some had medical [1:06:37] issues that they left their medical equipment. Uh they had to go to the [1:06:42] emergency room. Students came to visit from college had their plans canled and [1:06:47] lives turned upside down. With the population and businesses that were [1:06:52] impacted. The 100 million is simply not enough. safety and property and proper [1:07:00] compensation first GKN before any attempt to open up production again. [1:07:06] Thank you. Next speaker. Okay. [1:07:22] Good evening everyone. My name is Rodrigo Garay. I live I live actually [1:07:26] two blocks. I live on between Beach uh Chapman and Lamson. So, we're just [1:07:32] like right you're just you're our neighbors. Um I understand there's a lot [1:07:36] of moving parts and there's um a lot things that need to be done. However, [1:07:43] safety needs to be um transparent and we need to have a full [1:07:49] report. And when we we mean we we're talking about the community at at large, [1:07:54] right? Um we want to make sure that uh whatever uh is privy privy um that it's [1:08:02] it's being given to the community as well. We want to make sure that any [1:08:06] discussion that happens uh it's a political season [1:08:11] » sir we want to make sure >> you're addressing the council not the [1:08:14] » So we want to make sure that it's a political sorry about that. We want to [1:08:16] make sure that it's a political season. We want to make sure that everything is [1:08:19] transparent, that we don't hear about any closed door meetings, that [1:08:24] everything is on the open to the public and that we are aware of what's really [1:08:30] going on because I know that when we do research as a community, we will find [1:08:34] out things will happen. Things will come out and once things come out, that's why [1:08:41] we are becoming emo. We became emotional in the beginning. I slept at Golden West [1:08:48] and like I mentioned last time, all I had was a cot to sleep on and people are [1:08:53] are making money off of these contracts. So, we want to make sure that the city [1:09:00] uh please hold, you know, these companies [1:09:04] accountable and make sure that they're on the up and up basically. Okay. And [1:09:08] Garden Grove is a community where everyone can live and we have different [1:09:13] nations here. So we want to make sure that we understand that. Okay. We we all [1:09:18] love Garden Grove and Garden. So yeah, thank you. [1:09:23] » Next we have Andres Rubio followed by Nicole Himeus and then Quan [1:09:30] Wong. [1:09:34] » Hello. Today I come very emotionally because some um last time last city [1:09:38] council me last city council meeting um the mayor proterm said the folks that [1:09:43] are only claiming $100 or $200 I mean the reality is you know the vast [1:09:46] majority of people and I'm just going from my informal talking with folks you [1:09:50] know it was for this evacuation some people were able to take their mobile [1:09:53] homes out to the beach and I'm here to talk to you as someone who was [1:09:56] personally evacuated as someone who had to sleep at Freedom Hall someone who [1:10:00] only had one cut to stop minimizing all of the things that we have to go through [1:10:05] as a community of your district. So, I'm here to ask if you're going to talk and [1:10:10] you said it last time, we only need to bring up items that you guys can handle. [1:10:15] Please handle how you talk to the public. Stop minimizing all of the [1:10:18] things that we have to go through as in during the evacuation order and and you [1:10:24] know, you you mentioned um your folks were only they only took their their [1:10:28] mobile homes down to the beach. And while my neighbors, senior citizens, a [1:10:34] lady that didn't even know what was happening, imagine that that was going [1:10:38] to explode. She would have been there cuz she didn't even know what happened. [1:10:42] Why? Cuz I we were ordered to evacuate with no time to pack our things up. So, [1:10:48] we have to go back to my apartments. And when I got there, there was a lady who [1:10:52] didn't know what was happening because you guys did a horrible job to get the [1:10:56] news out there. There were people who were still in the evacuation zone while [1:11:00] this was happening, while we're in danger of of a bomb because of companies [1:11:04] like GKN who are able and you know you guys listen all of the violations that [1:11:09] GKN has gone through all the past years. You you said if if you find out any new [1:11:15] violations that we're going to protest. So come here now stand against Jen. You [1:11:18] have Gen right here. You already heard all of the list of violations that GKN [1:11:23] has been through. So that's straight up BS that they have [1:11:27] been building that for 60 years. This new this image of a good corporation in [1:11:32] our city when that's all lies. Thank you. [1:11:37] » Next speaker Nicole Herman. [applause] [1:11:48] » All righty. I don't know if I could get this done in in two minutes since you [1:11:51] guys kind of eliminated our public comment time, but I shall do my best. [1:11:57] So, I'm also going to be kind of speaking on, you know, GKN, but I think [1:12:02] some of us need to be a little bit more realistic given the amount of time that [1:12:07] they have been here. We cannot just ban them because they could sue us, right? [1:12:15] they have vested interest and that's one of the things that we need to take into [1:12:19] account and the other part we need to take into account is the classification [1:12:24] of the chemical and all the other businesses that have the same [1:12:28] classification. So are we going to ban all of them? So that's another part we [1:12:33] need to take into account and but a lot of the speakers do have a really good [1:12:38] point on the failure for notification and emergency planning. So, um, perhaps [1:12:46] there needs to be a new emergency plan drafted. Maybe you guys need to look at [1:12:50] the last time we had an emergency plan and maybe update it and take into [1:12:55] account everything that could happen in the city. And why don't you look at the [1:12:58] neighbors, too? We have a lot of neighbors. This is Southern California. [1:13:02] It's really crowded here. And also, um, we got 40 seconds. [1:13:09] Um, as far as checking, so I know, you know, if they ever want to expand again, [1:13:16] why don't you look at Gosh, I'm going to blank the word conditional use permit. [1:13:21] Why don't you guys make some changes to those? If they ever want to expand [1:13:24] again, why don't you guys go and actually go in there? Everyone's going [1:13:29] to list every single time. We're just word vomiting all this crap they did. [1:13:33] We've heard it so many times. Are they going to do it again? I think they are, [1:13:37] but that's not my job to babysit them. That's your guys's job. So, why don't [1:13:41] you guys come in and be like, who was supposed to go here and check? Why don't [1:13:45] we write a list and then make sure they actually do it and give you guys report [1:13:49] and that's it. Thank you. [1:13:54] Next speaker, Quan Vong. [1:14:03] » Hello. Um, I'm Quan Vong. I want to speak um in support of GKN. Um, I live [1:14:10] in the evacuation area. Uh, we're a family of five. I'm not going to um uh [1:14:17] sue or trying to get any money from GKN. Uh, if anybody that I want to sue, that [1:14:23] would be the government. The people that decided the evacuation order. After the [1:14:30] first night, it was clear to me that I had nothing to worry about long term [1:14:36] long-term effect. Um, so the evacuation order was not created by GKN. It was [1:14:44] given by the government. All right? So if lives were turned upside down, I [1:14:49] don't think it was GKN's fault. It is is the government's fault. All right? Um, [1:14:57] and I'm actually here because of the U Islam [1:15:03] um, uh, agenda. Um, I don't want to see Garden Grove to be another Dearborn [1:15:11] Michigan or New York, New York where a call [1:15:16] of prayer at this play publicly loud in public. Okay? Please do not ever allow [1:15:24] that in the city of Garden Grove. That's all I got to say. I thank you. [1:15:29] » Okay, we have one last uh inerson speaker. Is [applause] it [1:15:35] guy? Spelling is g h ai. Go ahead. [1:15:44] » Hi, thank you for being in the the council. I'm a garden grow resident and [1:15:50] I am really concerned about, you know, when I'm watching the news coverage and [1:15:54] there's so much chaos and division in the world and I would like uh the city [1:16:00] council to protect Garden Grove to remain an American city. Um we my family [1:16:07] came here from another country and we came here legally and I had to be uh [1:16:13] become a naturalized citizen. So I waited five years and I went through the [1:16:18] normal process of becoming a naturalized citiz citizen. I had to learn how to [1:16:22] speak English because I didn't know. I had to learn how to read and write in [1:16:26] English because they test you on that. They give you a book on American civics [1:16:31] which I studied in past. And then they get you to stand up and raise your hand [1:16:36] and you have an allegiance to this country. just like when we stand up and [1:16:41] we pledge allegiance to the flag and to this nation and one nation under God. So [1:16:47] I would like the uh council to be consistently and con um always aware of [1:16:54] um your oath that you took to support and defend the constitution [1:17:00] against the enemies foreign and domestic. And when we have invasions [1:17:07] into our ideology that is inconsistent and incompatible like Sharia law, like [1:17:13] Islam uh invasion, like in Dearbornne, New York and Texas and all around the [1:17:19] world, I have watched I've been here since 1970 and I have watched the [1:17:25] deterioration, the use usurpation of American citizens rights. The [1:17:30] constitution says that we have individual rights endowed by our creator [1:17:36] and one of them is to pursue our pursuit of happiness, our individual liberties. [1:17:43] These we hold sacred and please preserve them. You took an oath. Thank you. [1:17:52] » Now we will start with our remote participants. [1:17:57] Steve Andrews, go ahead. You have two minutes. [1:18:03] » You might need to repeat that. >> Steve Andrews, [1:18:12] go ahead. >> Good evening, Mayor Prom and members of [1:18:16] council. This call is just a test to make sure [1:18:20] that the system for remote callers is functioning. Thank you. [1:18:25] » Thank you, Steve. Our next remote participant is caller [1:18:32] ending in 238. Go ahead and unmute and you have two [1:18:40] minutes. [1:18:44] » Yes, council. It's Mr. Dery. I have some requests. Number one, Chapman to [1:18:51] Burkers. Um there's no landscaping. There's graffiti, cars, parked at [1:18:56] Burkers and Bixie least. There's no sidewalk for the students on the Bixie. [1:19:02] That's number one. Number two, there's no dog waste ordinance. We worry about [1:19:06] the cigarettes, but and for hazardous waste has not been done by the city. uh [1:19:12] three in the metal volume you do not have speed signs for e by safety or [1:19:18] pause for the dog or you have uh this the issue of a signal there occasion in [1:19:25] Nelson um all this is not being given because [1:19:29] you don't allow the public to call in to your traffic commission and your uh [1:19:33] parks um the other thing is that we need to look at um the trees that uh that [1:19:41] Councilman George Ber brought up about the the condition of uh Chavin and not [1:19:47] why aren't the trees that were in forest plan? It's calling for the city to part [1:19:51] of the city. That's what Mr. Um, do we have a government that actually connects [1:19:55] to the community? And uh, density is also an issue that we have not [1:20:00] addressed. And for the five-year plan on the budget, I just assured our park [1:20:05] assessments last to pay for the continued growth of a tree increased [1:20:10] park space. Um, I'm really concerned how we're going to move forward as a [1:20:15] resident when it was just cows and orange trees and on Sally Street. Uh I [1:20:21] wonder if council is going to put this on the agenda. Um we do have resolutions [1:20:26] regarding dog uh far as uh recognition, but there's no safety in our community. [1:20:33] I hope this will be put on the agenda. I hope we will get out there and find out [1:20:38] what we need to do in our budget to move forward in park assessments so we can [1:20:42] pay for it. Thank you very much. >> Next speaker, Zuri Rashad. [1:20:54] Go ahead. Minutes. >> Okay, cool. Hello. Um, my name is Zur [1:21:00] Rashad. I am a PhD candidate at UC Irvine studying chemical and [1:21:04] biomolelecular engineering. Um, I'm speaking mainly because I feel like the [1:21:10] public has a misinformed opinion about the content MMA methylacrylate. [1:21:17] Yes, it is an acrylic. Um, yes, it is found in common products like airplane [1:21:22] windows and well, not not MMAs particularly, but acrylic is a thing [1:21:27] that is used in lots of places, but it's never something you want in your lungs. [1:21:33] It's never something you want to be blown up next to an elementary school. [1:21:37] So, just because it's an everyday chemical that people use in their lives [1:21:41] does not mean that what GKN did was in any way okay. And if a small business [1:21:46] like a nail salon was storing acrylic improperly and it caused a health hazard [1:21:52] to surrounding citizens, we would take away their cosmetology license. We would [1:21:57] hold them accountable and shut them down as necessary. I am asking that we hold [1:22:02] GKN, a multi-billion dollar corporation, to the same standards we would to any [1:22:08] other business in Garden Grove. Thank you for your time. [1:22:14] Mayor Prom, that concludes all our public comment speakers. [1:22:18] [applause] >> I'm sorry that there's no other [1:22:20] speakers. >> No other speakers. [1:22:21] » Okay. Um with that, I'm going to go ahead and uh close um oral [1:22:27] communications and we're going to take a fivem minute recess [1:30:52] All [1:31:14] right, ladies and gentlemen, if you can please find your seats, we're going to [1:31:18] move forward here with the meeting. [1:31:27] Uh, we're going to go ahead and recess into successor agency at this time. [1:31:33] » Uh, madam clerk, please call roll. >> Member Redum [1:31:36] » here. >> Member Nuin [1:31:38] » here. >> Member Tran [1:31:40] » here. >> Member Doven [1:31:41] » present. >> Member Edesty [1:31:43] » here. >> Vice Chair Moneton [1:31:46] » here. >> And Chair Clumpenstein [1:31:47] » here. We've already held oral communications, so we'll move on to our [1:31:51] consent items. We have one. Uh, receive and file the minutes. [1:31:55] » Moved. >> Second. [1:31:57] » All right. I have a motion and a second. Call for the vote, please. [1:32:05] » Not working. >> Do it slow. [1:32:07] » Slow. >> No. Hold it down. [1:32:10] » I think we're gonna have to do a roll call vote. You can do that. [1:32:14] Member Brigham. >> Yes. [1:32:16] » Memberwin. Yes. >> Member Tran. [1:32:19] » Yes. >> Member Doven. [1:32:20] » Hi. >> Member Edgy. [1:32:22] » Yes. >> Vice Chairman. [1:32:23] » Yes. >> Chair Clevenstein. [1:32:25] » Yes. >> Motion receive. Seven yes votes. Motion [1:32:27] carries. >> Thank you. Uh any matters from successor [1:32:30] agency members. >> All right. Hearing and seeing none, [1:32:35] we'll adjourn and go back to city council. [1:32:39] Uh that will take us to our consent items. We have uh items number two [1:32:44] through nine. I'll entertain a motion unless someone would like to pull. [1:32:46] » Move. Second. >> Second. [1:32:49] » All right. Motion in a second. Call for the vote, please. [1:32:53] » I don't think my screen [1:33:00] » What about a mouse? >> We can do a roll call vote. [1:33:06] » Okay. Motion received. Seven yes votes. Motion carries. [1:33:10] » You can put me on the IT payroll. Just >> Yeah. [1:33:13] » Um Okay. Okay. Uh that will take us into items for consideration. I'd like to um [1:33:19] move up item number 12, please. >> This evening, item number 12 is approval [1:33:25] of an employment agreement with Matthew S. West for the position of city manager [1:33:31] and our uh deputy uh director Lean Quan will [1:33:38] provide the report. >> Good evening, mayor and members of the [1:33:41] city council. I am pleased to present to council the employment agreement for [1:33:45] Matthew S. West for city manager services. In preparation for Miss Lisa [1:33:51] Kim's retirement, the city council met in close session on August 31st, 2026 to [1:33:57] discuss the upcoming city manager vacancy. The council unanimous [1:34:01] unanimously agreed to offer the position of city manager to assistant city [1:34:06] manager Mr. Matthew West upon Miss Kim's retirement on November 2nd, 2026. [1:34:12] City Council further directed staff to prepare a city manager employment [1:34:16] agreement for municipal management services between the city of Garden [1:34:20] Grove and Mr. West. The agreement provides for terms and conditions of [1:34:24] employment beginning officially on November 3rd, 2026. [1:34:29] The employment agreement establishes the city manager base salary and benefits [1:34:34] based upon the survey conducted earlier in 2026. The compensation outlined in [1:34:39] the agreement is commensurate with other Orange County cities. As outlined in the [1:34:44] employment agreement, the annual salary will be 363,756. [1:34:52] In consistent with benefits provided to the city central management executive [1:34:56] staff, he annually receives health, dental, and vision allowance in the [1:35:00] amount of $25,800 along with an employer paid contribution [1:35:06] amount of $43,177.84 [1:35:11] towards his Kalpers's retirement account. He will also receive an auto [1:35:15] allowance of $10,416 and 40 hours of administrative leave, [1:35:21] sick leave and an acrruel rate of 96 hours and vacation at an acrruel rate of [1:35:26] 120 hours based upon his years of service at the city. [1:35:30] The city also provides disability and life insurance to Mr. West. He will [1:35:35] receive standard long-term disability in the amount of $2,155.92. [1:35:42] Long-term disability for executives at $2,710.50. [1:35:47] Long-term disability for management employees at $928.20 [1:35:52] and group term life insurance in the amount of $538.98 [1:35:58] and a cell phone with paid service and laptop. In addition, the city will also [1:36:03] provide 80 hours of vacation annually in January starting in 2027 [1:36:08] along with the maximum of annual 457b deferred compensation contribution [1:36:14] amount permitted by law. The cost of the city manager salary and benefits have [1:36:19] been appropriated in the adopted fiscal year 2026 27 operating budget. So, it's [1:36:25] recommended that the city council approve the city manager employment [1:36:28] agreement from Matthew S. request as attached and authorize the mayor to [1:36:32] execute. This concludes my report and I'm available for any questions. [1:36:36] » Madame Mayor, >> thank you for the report. Yes. [1:36:39] » Yeah. Um I am ecstatic that this board, this dis um decided to go with uh Matt [1:36:47] West, soon to be city manager Matt West. Um I think he's been tagging along with [1:36:53] Lisa, getting firsthand information now for about three years. [1:36:57] That's about the best longest [clears throat] job interview I've ever [1:37:01] heard of. But um I do have a question on that contract. [1:37:06] Is there any provision in there that'll force him to put a picture on his wall [1:37:11] in his office, [clears throat] [1:37:14] » decorate, do something, a plant, something? Is there anything in the [1:37:18] contract that that allows for that? >> He has a plant, George. [1:37:22] » Is there a plant now? >> No. [1:37:27] Oh, okay. Well, we should have we we we missed that. We should have got that [1:37:30] while we could. So, anyway, congratulation, Matt. I think you're [1:37:34] going to do a great job. You got big shoes to fill. [1:37:37] » And I'm a Yes. I'll make the motion. >> Thank you, George. [1:37:41] » Um, we have a motion in a second, but I'm sure there's more comments. Cindy. [1:37:46] » Well, um I think we uh we talked about this a little bit already, but um just [1:37:51] want to take the opportunity to say thank to you and Lisa, we will talk [1:37:55] later. But um um yes, from day one when Matt just took the job um at any time, [1:38:01] any given time I asked him something, he were able to find the answer quickly and [1:38:07] regard whatever that is at any given time, late or weekend or anything. So um [1:38:14] as uh the mayor pro mentioned a big suit to fill. Um there's so many project that [1:38:20] going in the city that I don't think anyone would be able to catch up with [1:38:25] Lisa and so having you to s Lisa I'm looking forward to it. I'm excited and I [1:38:32] cannot wait to see what you can accomplish. Thank you. [1:38:38] I would like to get it on the record that Matt and I have actually been [1:38:41] working for a very long time together. He just doesn't know it. Uh because Matt [1:38:46] was the uh worked for the city of Tustin for a very very long time. Um pretty [1:38:52] pretty much started out there and was a city manager there up until 2019. [1:38:58] And when he was working at 300 Centennial Way, I worked across the [1:39:02] street for seven years at 315 Centennial Way. So, he doesn't know it, but our [1:39:06] paths were crossing every single day for seven years without him even knowing it. [1:39:11] So, I think this is very serendipitous. I think that this is very um you know, [1:39:15] very fateful that we get a chance to to really work together. Now, Matt um in [1:39:20] all seriousness um has been outstanding uh from the very beginning. I have every [1:39:27] single ounce of faith faith that um you're going to do an excellent job in [1:39:33] leading the city and and helping us execute all of our visions going forward [1:39:38] um in getting us through all of the obstacles and challenges that we have. [1:39:43] Um you are a consmate professional and you have an excellent rapport with each [1:39:49] and every single one of us on this dis and I think that that is just a sign of [1:39:53] your professionalism. um and a sign of also your commitment to the city. You [1:39:57] are an incredibly loyal person to to the cities that that you work for um as as [1:40:02] established with your commitment with the city of Tustin here with the city of [1:40:06] Garden Grove. So, I know that you're going to be doing an excellent job with [1:40:09] us here. I'm very excited that we get a chance to really take things to the next [1:40:14] level. Uh and u I'm I'm going to uh step up with regards to George. He wants you [1:40:21] to put a plant in his office. I I continue with you my challenge. You You [1:40:25] know what I need you to do, Matt. You know what I need you to do. Uh M Matt [1:40:30] and I have an inside joke. Uh but Matt is um by all means someone that I have [1:40:36] an insurmountable amount of trust in. Um and I know that we're going to do really [1:40:41] really great work together. So, thank you, Matt. Um and and I look forward to [1:40:46] at minimum the next three years at minimum. [1:40:50] » Thank you, Matt. Mayor. >> Yeah. [1:40:55] » Thank you, Mayor. First of all, I would like to show my appreciation and thank [1:41:01] you uh city manager Lisa Kim for being doing a great job, strong leadership, [1:41:09] help and carry us through a lot of difficult time. And uh for that I [1:41:15] appreciate it. And next thing I want to congratulate uh Mr. Matt for will be our [1:41:24] city manager. And uh as my knowledge uh Mr. is a very [1:41:31] strong leadership. His knowledge, his experience [1:41:35] is quite [1:41:39] more than needed to uh actually get this transfer smoothly and carry our city to [1:41:48] a more and more better situation. Thank you, Matt. [1:41:53] » Hello, Matt. I just want to um thank you so much for stepping up to the plate. I [1:41:59] think um you know our city is going to be it's going to do well in your hands. [1:42:04] Um as we we we have spoke about you um in regards to the city manager position [1:42:10] and um as many things that were mentioned was the knowledge that you [1:42:15] have the map that you know um you're very quick to answer uh you have a heart [1:42:21] for our city and and and I see it um genuinely you um have been here and have [1:42:30] shared the load many times contributing to the solutions as well. And I know [1:42:36] that that's going to continue um for many years, more than three of course, [1:42:41] and I look forward for that um to that. So, congratulations. Very well earned. [1:42:48] All right. Uh we have a motion, a second, and uh to assistant city manager [1:42:53] Matt West. Looks like soon to be city manager. Um I've had the good fortune of [1:42:58] working with you now. Um, as mayor, I get to work very closely at city hall [1:43:01] with obviously with Lisa, with you and with staff. Um, and I appreciate your [1:43:06] consmate leadership. Uh, you're very driven, and I appreciate the way you [1:43:11] look at things um from a a really deep perspective. Uh, you don't get overly [1:43:17] emotional. You stay very technically sound and based in in your logic and [1:43:21] your thinking, your analytical. Uh, I think you bring a wealth of expertise [1:43:25] and knowledge uh to our city. And one of the things I've appreciated the most is [1:43:29] Garden Grove is my hometown. It matters to me. The people, the city, the [1:43:33] businesses. And one thing I saw is um you your willingness to roll up your [1:43:38] sleeves and really accept Garden Grove as your home too. Um it was always a [1:43:43] yes, I'll go to that event. Yes, I'll meet with that business owner. Yes, I'll [1:43:46] meet with that resident. Yes, I want to immerse myself in the culture and just [1:43:50] everything that Garden Grove is. We're such a beautifully diverse city and [1:43:53] you've embraced all of that. um and really I think just hit the ground [1:43:56] running from the time you started here. So I see how well you work with staff, [1:44:00] the relationship you've built, the leadership you've shown and so I'm very [1:44:03] much looking forward to the future. Appreciate you. [1:44:06] » All right, we have a motion and a second. Let's call for the vote. Mayor, [1:44:10] for the record, who was the second? >> I believe it was [1:44:13] » I think it was George and Phillip. There may have been several seconds. [1:44:23] Motion received. Seven yes votes. Motion carries. Thank you. We're going to call [1:44:27] for another recess. [1:45:44] to work. All right. So, we uh already handled 12. [1:45:49] I guess we'll go back to 10 >> this evening. Item number 10 is an award [1:45:54] of contracts to BND Towing, Inc., DBA Casades, and Davalos Towing, Action [1:46:02] Southland Enterprises, Inc. doing business as action Southland Towing and [1:46:07] Pacific Towing, Inc. to provide on call towing services as needed by the police [1:46:11] department and Chief Amir Alura is here to provide the report. [1:46:17] Mayor, council members, good evening. Uh this item for consideration is for on [1:46:21] call towing services for the Garden Grove Police Department. In uh July of [1:46:26] uh 2025, we received a total of six responses from towing companies. Of [1:46:31] those six, three of them made it through the application process. That's B&D [1:46:35] Towing, Action Southland Towing, and Pacific Towing. There is no financial [1:46:39] impact uh to the city. And it is recommended that the city council award [1:46:45] contracts with a term of three years and two option years for on call towing [1:46:49] services as needed by the police department to B&D Towing Action, [1:46:54] Southland Enterprises and Pacific Towing and authorize the city manager or [1:46:58] designate to execute the contracts with minor modifications as needed and [1:47:03] exercise optioners on behalf of the city. I'm available for any questions. [1:47:09] » Any questions, comments? motion. [1:47:14] » Got a motion by uh Councilman W >> and second by Councilwoman Tran and call [1:47:22] for the vote. [1:47:31] » Well, I think we need to do a roll call vote since you're taking council mayor [1:47:35] prom or mayor clumpins seat. Oh, it it shows me as [1:47:39] » shows you as absent. So, let's do a roll call vote. [1:47:44] » Council member Nin, >> yes. [1:47:47] » Council member Tran, >> yes. [1:47:48] » Council member Dovin, >> hi. [1:47:50] » Council member Munyon, >> yes. [1:47:52] » Council member DGI, >> yes. [1:47:55] » Mayor Proen Bredigum, >> yes. [1:47:56] » And Mayor Clenstein is absent. Six yes votes. Motion carries. [1:48:02] » And we'll move on to item 11. Item 11 is award of award of contract to [1:48:10] CCS Facility Services Orange County, Inc. to provide janitorial services for [1:48:15] the new public safety building and parking structure. And our new public [1:48:20] works facility manager, Jess Co Pepper, is here to provide that report. [1:48:27] » Thank you. Uh good evening, Mayor Prom and and members of the city council. [1:48:31] Before you tonight is a request to approve a one-year janitorial services [1:48:34] agreement for the new public safety building and parking structure with CCS [1:48:38] Facility Service Orange County Incorporated in the amount of $768,5355 [1:48:44] with the option to extend the contract for additional one-year terms. In July [1:48:50] 2026, staff issued an RFP for custodial services at the facility prioritizing [1:48:55] several key elements giving the building sensitive and critical nature. These [1:49:00] aspects included appropriate staffing levels, tiered service level options to [1:49:04] allow flexibility, and rigorous facility safety and security standards, including [1:49:10] mandatory background checks and confidentiality agreements for all [1:49:13] contracted staff. The city re received and evaluated six proposals and the [1:49:19] selection committee unanimously rated CCS facility services as the most [1:49:24] qualified firm based on proven public safety experience and best overall [1:49:28] value. Staff recommends award at the tier 2 service level which preserves [1:49:33] flexibility to scale up or down as needed after a 30, 60, and 90day quality [1:49:39] control reviews. Accordingly, staff recommends the city council authorize an [1:49:44] additional appropriation of $320,554 from the general fund and authorize the [1:49:50] city manager to execute the agreement with CCS facility services. This [1:49:55] concludes my report and I'm available to answer any questions you may have. [1:49:59] » Council, any questions? [1:50:03] » Motions, comments? Uh, >> mayor, can I? [1:50:07] » Yes. Go ahead. >> Yes, I have a question. [1:50:12] Uh number one, uh I actually uh saw from the district uh [1:50:21] school district that they hire full-time [1:50:27] janitor uh worker of course with the phone benefit. [1:50:39] Is it more beneficial for us to hire uh to open employee [1:50:47] uh job for our ground resident to get more job and um get full benefit [1:50:57] instead of hire a contractor to do the job? um is that because of the [1:51:06] monetary saving or something like that? >> Um there's actually that that that [1:51:11] answer is really twofold. So you have two two aspects that we're really [1:51:15] looking at. Flexibility is one of them. This is obviously a great facility [1:51:20] that's over 100,000 square feet and 80 over 80,000 that we're maintaining. So [1:51:24] this with this building we have a lot of unknowns, right? And so when we get into [1:51:28] it, that's why these 30, 60, 90day uh evaluation periods are really important [1:51:33] for us to really see where we're going with the contracted services. It allows [1:51:37] us to evaluate and then look if we need to step up the tier and step up more uh [1:51:42] resources or step it down potentially if we were to bring in full-time staff and [1:51:47] commit to full-time staff, we'd lose that flexibility. So, we're really [1:51:51] looking at this thing as we're going to know more after this first year, and [1:51:55] that's why we have the awarding the contract with that one year, but then [1:51:59] having four four one-year terms to to renew or or go potentially other [1:52:03] directions. So, this allows the city the most flexibility. And costwise as we've [1:52:09] done as we've broken broken down the uh the cost factors we look at if we would [1:52:13] have to bring on pro likely seven to eight positions which represents along [1:52:19] with um consumables uh in this contract. That's one thing uh that's noteworthy is [1:52:25] the consumables toilet paper towel soap that's all that's all provided by the [1:52:29] contractor. So this con this number that you see includes all those which [1:52:33] represents about $150 to $200,000 per year. It's very expensive especially for [1:52:39] 247 facility um like this. So, um, so with that flex, excuse me, with that [1:52:45] staffing flexibility and, um, and those costs where if you look at what it would [1:52:51] cost to bring on those full-time positions and that commitment to that as [1:52:54] well as, as the equipment cost, the consumables cost, you're looking well [1:52:59] over a million dollars, >> 1.1, 1.2 conservatively. [1:53:03] » Okay. Thank you for the well representation. [1:53:05] » Thank you. Any other questions, Mariana? Um, I actually appreciate that council [1:53:10] member Wyn um brought up those concerns. I I do appreciate that, you know, we are [1:53:15] entering an unknown with regards to the administration and the management of the [1:53:19] building and uh we don't quite know what challenges we're we are going to face in [1:53:24] terms of um the maintenance of it and and uh what it's going to cost, how much [1:53:30] work it's going to take to maintain a facility of this size um and labor and [1:53:36] all of that. But um I think that council member Wyn speaks to something that I [1:53:40] think many of us um have had concerns about which is our our goal really has [1:53:45] been to make sure that the people that get to work in our city are people that [1:53:50] are taken care of. um that we know that there are folks that are getting good [1:53:55] benefits, that are getting paid fairly, that are getting good um good treatment, [1:53:59] and um but also making sure that um there are people there there are City [1:54:03] Garden Grove employees and we're creating positions for them to be a part [1:54:07] of our Garden Grove family. So, I think um I I would definitely be open to as we [1:54:12] go forward and we learn more um to and as we go forward with our budgeting [1:54:16] processes in the future to um to explore what it would look like to potentially [1:54:22] add positions. Um what it I I would be interested in seeing what it would cost [1:54:27] us down the line once we learn what it does take to manage this building. um [1:54:32] what it would cost us to create these positions for us and our staff um and [1:54:38] have these be positions that are part of us and our public works department and [1:54:42] our facilities maintenance department. >> Thank you, council member. [1:54:46] » Thank you. >> I mean, thank you. Just a quick note um [1:54:52] when looking at the number 768,000 for custodian for you know janitory work [1:55:01] that's a big number but I know that it came to the council tonight for the [1:55:07] approval and so I want for us here we always put you know safety uh uh first [1:55:15] and that's why we support our policemen we support you know we that's why We [1:55:19] have the big building there but at the same time um we want to see the study [1:55:25] that you said 30 60 90 day because it's new. Uh and then um when we come back we [1:55:30] will see what the number look like. Um but at the same time we are here to [1:55:35] support our you know policemen and support our um the new building that we [1:55:42] have. And so um thank you for sharing the information and we hope to get some [1:55:48] more information so that way when we make a decision something like this we [1:55:52] feel more comfortable that yeah it's a big number and it's going to it's come [1:55:56] from the general fund. So um we just want to make sure that we look at the [1:56:02] number. So thank you. >> Is that a motion? [1:56:05] » Um >> okay we have a motion. We have a second. [1:56:10] » Second. >> Okay we have a motion and a second. Um, [1:56:12] I I do have some comments on this. Um, when you look at the number, you know, [1:56:17] you subtract the $200,000 for toilet trees and paper and all this stuff. Um, [1:56:23] you still have 500,000, you could hire five [1:56:27] custodians at $100,000 a piece for that, right? Which you would assume could [1:56:34] handle a building of that size, right? Um, so I do hope we learn from this [1:56:39] investment and maybe look at ways that we can both a save [1:56:46] money and also provide decent jobs for our community. So um, and with that call [1:56:54] for the vote. >> Council member Tran. [1:56:59] » Yes. >> Council member Dovin. [1:57:01] » Hi. >> Council member Mueton. [1:57:04] » Yes. Council member Medi, >> yes. [1:57:07] » Council member Nwin, >> yes. [1:57:09] » And Mayor Promigum, >> yes. [1:57:11] » And Mayor Clumpenstein is absent. That's six yes votes. Motion carries. [1:57:18] » Now move us into ordinances for second reading. Item 13. [1:57:24] Item 13 is second reading and adoption of ordinance number 2980 [1:57:28] with the ordinance entitled an ordinance of the city council of the city of [1:57:32] Garden Grove, California adding chapter 8.72 to title 8 of the Garden Grove [1:57:36] municipal code to establish safety and security requirements for hotel workers [1:57:41] and city attorney can answer any additional [1:57:45] questions. No, the city council already discussed [1:57:49] this ordinance, made some amendments, and what's before you is what the city [1:57:52] council introduced at your last meeting, and this is uh now for your adoption. [1:57:58] » Second reading. >> Yes. [1:58:00] » Do we have any comments or uh a motion? [1:58:07] » Huh? >> I'll second a motion. Okay. [1:58:09] » I'll start the motion. >> Okay. So, we have a [1:58:12] » Yeah, it's a second reading. So we have a motion by Councilman Tran and uh and [1:58:16] Yenio was our second. >> No discussion. Call for the vote. [1:58:21] » Council member DGI. >> Yes. [1:58:23] » Council member Nwin. >> Yes. [1:58:26] » Council member Tran. >> Yes. [1:58:28] » Council member Meton. >> Yes. [1:58:30] » Mayor Pro Tim Bredigum. >> Yes. [1:58:33] » Council member Dovin. >> I. [1:58:36] » And Mayor Clumpins is absent. Motion carries. Six yes votes. Okay. And uh [1:58:41] we're going to go ahead um and pull item 14 for the next meeting. Um as uh the [1:58:47] mayor is not here, I think it's fair we're all here to uh discuss that. So [1:58:50] we'll we'll uh I'm going to go ahead and pull that and bring it to the to the [1:58:54] next meeting. [1:58:59] » With that being said, um matters. Guess we'll go around the horn. Who started [1:59:04] last time? Was it you or me? >> Actually, it was you. [1:59:07] » It wasn't me. So we'll start with you then. sleigh. [1:59:10] [laughter] [1:59:12] » I'm solidly a millennial, guys. I'm sorry. Um, [1:59:16] » sleigh. Oh my god. >> It is. It is a [laughter] slay. Um, I'll [1:59:20] I'll start off by saying, Matt, congratulations. [1:59:23] [snorts] >> I'm very excited to uh get to work with [1:59:25] you for the next three years. >> Thank you very much. and I will hold you [1:59:28] to my challenge that uh you're going to have to face off with me at the Orange [1:59:32] County Fair and uh enter your vegetables into the uh competitions at the Orange [1:59:38] County Fair. >> I was hoping it was the demolition [1:59:41] derby. >> It will not be the demolition derby, but [1:59:44] uh you might have to challenge my squash uh or or the peppers. So, I'm very [1:59:49] excited to get to work with you, Matt. I I can't I I don't know if uh I I can say [1:59:54] anymore about how excited I I I am to get to work with you more. Um Lisa, I'm [2:00:00] um I I can't say thank you enough for all of your years of service to the city [2:00:06] of Garden Grove and um the vision that you've executed here um and all the [2:00:12] passion and energy that you've given us. uh you've made some big things happen [2:00:16] for us in the city um and and taken us into the next level for for so many [2:00:22] things that I don't I don't even know if some of our residents can realize yet [2:00:26] kind of what uh what you've kind of set us up for, right? And for in some of the [2:00:31] big vision big steps um for our city in the long term. So, um, you know, you're [2:00:38] our first female city manager, and I think that that's, you know, something [2:00:43] that's amazing, commendable, and you you broke glass ceilings, and you broke [2:00:49] barriers, and um I'll save my the rest of my speech [2:00:54] and my my thoughts to a later date, but I just want to say for now, thank you. [2:01:01] Um because it's uh it's it's going to continue being fun. It's going to [2:01:07] continue being fun. You're not you're not out of you're not rid of me yet. [2:01:12] Um to that effect, um one one of the great things that that Lisa certainly [2:01:16] helped us uh get done uh was the renovations on Woodbury Park. And we did [2:01:21] a our ribbon cutting on Woodbury Park and boy, what a fun event that was. Boy, [2:01:27] I mean, that was years in the making. Um, I I'm just I'm so glad that we all [2:01:33] got a a chance to be a part of that. Um, when when I was on the Parks, [2:01:37] Recreation, and Arts Commission, uh, and we first had our, um, John and Janet [2:01:43] present those renderings for us and you guys first started going through the [2:01:47] grant application process to get all the funding. Um, and we just first started [2:01:51] envisioning everything. I I could not have imagined how beautiful everything [2:01:55] would have turned out. And boy, it was um so great to be out there with the [2:01:59] community and seeing the vision that took so many years uh become a reality [2:02:03] and to be there and see people enjoy it and and be there with their family. Um [2:02:09] and I was so excited to be able to to jump into the pool with um with director [2:02:14] John Montis and my predecessor Kimwin Pinosa. It was so great to to have her [2:02:19] there with my niece Penny and my nephew Lucas. Um it was great to be able to [2:02:23] share in in a moment that um that we've all worked so hard for. Um and to see um [2:02:30] our staff get to enjoy something that they worked so hard for. Um you guys did [2:02:34] amazing. Um where are you guys? You guys did great. [2:02:39] Uh you guys killed it. You slayed. You really did. [2:02:44] Now I'm so excited because we get to share in that with all of the community [2:02:48] and um we get to enjoy it for years to come. So, thank you to all of our [2:02:52] amazing city staff um who helped work on that. The the amazing contractors that [2:02:56] helped put all of that together. Um all of the favorite uh folks that I mean [2:03:02] helped contribute to the skate park. Um the the folks at Contenders that helped [2:03:06] uh consult with regards to the skate park as well. That was uh amazing. I [2:03:10] don't know anything about skateboarding, but they did amazing. Everyone had a [2:03:13] great time. Um so, thank you so much. Um I it's it was [2:03:20] great to have a a nice moment uh amidst all of the the things that we've been um [2:03:26] dealing with. It's great to be able to have something to celebrate. Um so uh [2:03:31] I'm going to I'm going to leave it that on that blissful note. It was really [2:03:34] great to be able to be out with community um and get to enjoy things [2:03:38] with our constituents in district 6. Thank you guys. [2:03:43] » Good evening everyone. I'd also like to join my colleagues in welcoming our new [2:03:48] senior manager, uh, Matt West. I look forward to working with you and [2:03:52] continuing um to um uh be that positive impact for our community and and to see [2:03:59] you grow and and really flourish for our city. So, I I look forward to that. and [2:04:03] Lisa, thank you so much for um your passion for city, for um your passion [2:04:09] for [clears throat] businesses and for your vision um and for uh guiding me u [2:04:14] my first year in council. I I really do appreciate that. Um and to many more [2:04:20] years to come, you'll always be part of the Garden Grove family. So, thank you. [2:04:24] Um, I would uh it was great to attend the ribbon cutting at Woodbury Park to [2:04:31] see the community members enjoy the beautiful space, the parks. Um, parks [2:04:37] like this bring the community together and create uh places where families can [2:04:42] make memories for years to come. I'm looking forward to seeing residents [2:04:46] continue to enjoy Woodbury Park. And I am especially excited about what's ahead [2:04:51] for Hastur Bas and Park. We all have so much to look forward to. And on that [2:04:58] note, I would like to um staff can uh please provide an update on the progress [2:05:03] and timeline on uh Hastur Park as well. also when um when we can expect a ribbon [2:05:10] cutting or um uh I I I know our residents and our community district 5's [2:05:17] community is eager to see it come to life and just to see the equipment [2:05:21] moving um every single day. It it's just very exciting. So, if we can get an [2:05:26] update on that, that would be amazing. Um I uh it was also great to attend the [2:05:32] ribbon cutting uh for the Garden Grove Police Department's new building. It is [2:05:37] an important important investment in our department and in the community it [2:05:43] serves. As we celebrate this new facility, I am also reminded that [2:05:48] supporting our police department means investing in the people who serve it. Um [2:05:54] uh [2:05:57] comp uh competitive pay and benefits are important part of retaining experienced [2:06:03] officers especially as department our department crosses the uh region comp uh [2:06:10] compete for talent and personnel. I I uh strong a strong department needs [2:06:18] both the facility and the people to serve our community well. So I look [2:06:24] forward to continuing supporting both. And that will be all for me. Thank you. [2:06:33] [clears throat] For my part, I'd like to uh close out [2:06:38] tonight's meeting in honor of my mother-in-law, [2:06:43] grandmother to my two sons, Donnie and Joey, who passed just uh two days ago, [2:06:50] Miss Maria Gwen T Lei. I'm reminding uh our family and [2:06:58] everything she taught and sacrificed for us to love all peoples, [2:07:04] embrace all cultures, and respect all religions. [2:07:10] May her memory live on in all our hearts. [2:07:14] Thank you. [2:07:19] » That's it. Okay. Um, so first just want to say thank to Lisa. I know that we're [2:07:24] gonna have uh another celebration or um goodbye later, but um just want to take [2:07:30] the opportunity to say thanks to you for your leadership. I think people don't [2:07:35] know how many thing that you actually how many project our city has. Um just [2:07:42] couple days ago, Lisa give a long list for every single district or the project [2:07:47] that um our city is working on. And so that kind of go to um Matt um we going [2:07:54] to you're going to have a lot of fun time but also um you know how you used [2:08:00] to walk my district and go to visit the uh small businesses with Lisa. I'm still [2:08:06] I still going to hold you to that meaning that you're going to have to do [2:08:09] the same thing in term of you know with other thing that you have to fill in for [2:08:13] Lisa. So uh congratulation and looking forward to that. Um second just want to [2:08:21] um say couple quick thing to our staff and the uh all the um partner that who [2:08:28] help with the GGPD the um the new building that's you cannot um see you're [2:08:35] not going to be able to see another building that big of the project you [2:08:39] know get it done in just the two years and um as a council member we see our [2:08:47] staff doing the work and see the the team work. Um just amazing feeling. See [2:08:53] how it's going to be hard for someone else [2:08:56] to be able to have a project like that. And then uh also go next to that is the [2:09:02] uh the Woodberry uh cutting um ribbon cutting. Um so just want to say thank to [2:09:08] our staff and also um the partner because I know that before our council [2:09:13] um have to walk there and give input and some of the thing that I I said I would [2:09:18] love to see more color and that's what we saw that it was just so nice to see [2:09:24] the whole thing come together and I would love to see something like that [2:09:27] you know within district three but of course it hard to find money this day. [2:09:32] Um but I did provide some of the information to um our director John [2:09:37] Montanges for uh pursuing couple of the grant and so we'll see how that going to [2:09:41] go. Um I walk my district every single day for the last week and um couple of [2:09:49] thing I want to bring up to our staff. First is um from the first day I got to [2:09:55] I I came to this diet. I mentioned about the light and I know that there's a a [2:10:01] lengthy process and it cost a lot of money to put a street light in your [2:10:05] neighborhood. But when I walk my neighborhood um that was a topic that um [2:10:10] the resident brought up and I have been um working with the uh well our staff [2:10:17] and I know that we're going to have some kind of uh process coming up or some [2:10:21] something to help with our residents. So hopefully that will come soon and uh I [2:10:27] already asked to give me the update on that. Um, next one is um the clean up [2:10:35] and I have done several project to do cleanup in my district but um the [2:10:41] feedback from the residents still you know there's still a lot of trash on the [2:10:46] public um for example at the Galpert and Chapman you know near the um the track [2:10:52] or the railroad and so um hopefully we'll have to come up with a way how we [2:10:58] could handle that because I don't like to you know you you live in a city you [2:11:03] love the city but you keep seeing the trash there and there has to be a way to [2:11:07] to address it somehow so that's uh something to challenge um another [2:11:13] challenge project for Matt um so uh thanks to our um uh public work for [2:11:22] doing the um fixing or resurface the street on Galbert um so we saw the work [2:11:29] getting done there in my district. So I'm happy with that. Um the resident [2:11:33] happy with that too. Um one of the thing is uh coming up for um the at the [2:11:41] Atlantis. So I I told Atlantis um part today. Um we still need help with um I [2:11:47] brought up the issue about the restroom. So hopefully our staff will put some [2:11:52] effort in taking a look of that. The paint is falling off the the wall and [2:11:58] the ceiling. But anyway, so we're going to have an event there on September 19 [2:12:03] from 11 to 2:00 p.m. That's the Moonlight F. Uh yeah, wait. Um yeah, the [2:12:10] um Moon Festival. So everybody invited and um there will be, you know, game and [2:12:18] um toys to give out. Um so just want to say thank to our staff and also um for [2:12:25] the Tabit who is leading this effort. We do that every year and everyone is [2:12:29] welcome. Um that and then uh on the uh October 3 I'm working with couple of the [2:12:38] um yoga and Arabic structure. We're going to do a walk at garden park but [2:12:46] also beside the walk you also we're going to have some yoga and some Arabic [2:12:50] exercising for fun. So looking forward to do something like that. just um you [2:12:55] know kind of want to bring people to um my district I guess. Um and then on I [2:13:03] think September we're going to have a cleanup event at [2:13:07] the senior center I think September 26. I don't know I don't remember the day [2:13:13] exact but um we'll come back after. So um that's it for me. Pass to you sir. [2:13:20] Thank you, Pome. [2:13:24] My matter today, uh, with all this, I want to dedicate my time. [2:13:29] Uh, condolence to my brother-in-law, [2:13:35] Rangman. He passed away last week. Uh, he's [2:13:43] was a brother-in-law and a very good friend of mine. [2:13:47] Um I myself and my in-law family took it very hard. [2:13:54] So please pray for him and for us. Thank you. [2:14:02] Yeah, the Woodberry Park uh ribbon cutting was kind of cool. It was really [2:14:06] good. I want to give uh props to uh John Montage and Janet Palio and the whole [2:14:12] staff. They did a great job. The park is beautiful. There's a pool in there. Um, [2:14:19] kids were already jumping in while we were doing the, you know, it was really [2:14:23] good to see. Um, on that note, um, back in my district over at [2:14:30] Westgrove Park, the local youth have taken the east side of the park over to [2:14:38] make into a impromptu ebike track. And uh, got a few complaints, but [2:14:45] thinking about it, this is what the kids want. This is something that, you know, [2:14:50] it's a holistic thing. They they they've got their own track going and jumps and [2:14:54] all this stuff going. Why not embrace it? You know, maybe explore um setting [2:14:59] up an actual ebike track over there for them where they can have some fun. You [2:15:05] know, the skateboard park over there at at Woodbury is another good example of [2:15:09] that. Yeah, it's kind of skateboards are dangerous. You can fall, but you wear [2:15:13] some protective equipment and you do, you know, and you can have some fun. And [2:15:17] you know, when you get these uh holistic uh natural things that just kind of pop [2:15:23] up in a park like that, well, maybe that's something we should look at as a [2:15:28] city. Maybe uh the kids are doing it. Why don't we [2:15:32] let them continue to do it and make it a nice place for them? So, um the event [2:15:39] today was um the dedication of the William [2:15:46] Bill Dalton um community room over at the police [2:15:51] station. Um you know, Bill and I went back long many years and uh he was [2:15:57] probably one of the most respected um individuals in our city. So, I'm really [2:16:04] really glad to see that happen. Um, you know, he he did over 30 years with the [2:16:10] Garden Grove Police Department, retired as a lieutenant. [2:16:16] Um, got the Medal of Honor for or the Medal of Valor for um [2:16:24] saving a suspect's life who was um he actually had to go and apply first aid [2:16:30] to the suspect that was shot. um and uh diffused the hostage situation [2:16:36] all at the same time. That was it was kind of cool to hear the story how he [2:16:41] got that. Um he then went on after he retired to become a Garden Grove [2:16:45] councilman and then Garden Grove mayor for eight years and uh really really [2:16:51] just a great event to see that in his honor. So real happy with that. [2:16:57] Um, there was a comment on GKN earlier about a $500 thing and I'm I'm if it was [2:17:06] taken in that regard. I don't think it was given in that regard, but um I I [2:17:10] apologize if you if you took it that way. It was not in any way to demean [2:17:16] anybody's claim or hardship that they experienced. Um it was simply a notice [2:17:22] of saying that the most people that I've spoke to [2:17:27] um in the area that we're talking about how much they were out how much the vast [2:17:33] majority of them was 500 and less. There was some that were 2,000 and more. And [2:17:40] of course some of the businesses and other people I mean it was a 4-day [2:17:44] evacuation. So, you know, there was some cost associated and there's a lot of [2:17:48] hardship associated with that. But, um, so I just wanted to make that clear. [2:17:54] That was not in any way meant to be a belittling thing, just a factual [2:17:58] statement of the people who talked to me and how much they said they were out. [2:18:02] So, um, with that being said, I have, um, we're going to adjourn in memory of [2:18:12] Lewis Alberto Casus. Uh, we're going to, yeah, in memory of [2:18:17] our very own Lewis Alberto Casus, who sadly passed away on August 29th at the [2:18:22] age of 25. Lewis was a Garden Grove resident who [2:18:26] served as a parking control specialist with the Garden Grove Police Department [2:18:31] and as an extra help park maintenance worker with the OC parks. He joined the [2:18:38] city on February 17th of last year. According to his supervisor, Lewis was a [2:18:44] passionate about helping the community where he lived and worked. He took great [2:18:49] pride in keeping Garden Grove streets clean and the city looking its best. [2:18:55] Lewis worked two jobs to help support his parents and younger siblings. [2:19:01] He was a role model to his younger siblings and his desire to provide [2:19:05] better life for his family motivated him to work hard and strive for more. [2:19:12] Lewis is survived by his mother, father, and three younger siblings. On behalf of [2:19:18] the city of Garden Grove, we extend our heartfelt condolences to Lewis's family [2:19:22] and our deepest appreciation for his service and contributions to our [2:19:26] community. And with that, >> and before we adjourn really quickly, [2:19:30] » I'm sorry, we got to we got to do a >> There is there is no reportable action [2:19:34] out of the closed session items tonight. Thank you. [2:19:37] » Okay. And city manager, did you have something as well? [2:19:40] Thank you, Mayor Prombride again and members of the city council. Thank you [2:19:44] again for your kind and amazing um words of appreciation. Uh my 10 years [2:19:51] with Garden Grove has been absolutely extraordinary. I wouldn't change a [2:19:55] thing. And one of the best professional decisions I've ever made was to join [2:20:00] this most extraordinary organization and be able to touch the life of our [2:20:04] community members and really transform the city to where it is today. And I'm [2:20:09] excited that Matt has taken the helm as part of our succession plan. And thank [2:20:14] you again. >> You will be here at the next meeting, [2:20:17] right? >> Cuz because we all want to throw eggs. [2:20:22] [laughter] And with that we'll stand adjourn