1 00:00:05,540 --> 00:00:13,920 We have one comment to open, we have one comment to open, we have one comment to open. 2 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:20,420 I'm going to begin meeting, I have a request to speak for Ms. Lynn Guath. 3 00:00:23,590 --> 00:00:27,330 Oh, that's before the open session. We're going into closed session right now. 4 00:00:31,550 --> 00:00:38,050 It will be done at 7 p.m. whenever everybody's here. This is just our pre-meeting, the closed session. 5 00:00:38,050 --> 00:00:41,250 provide these video to the comments, or no? 6 00:00:41,510 --> 00:00:43,170 The comments are audio tape. 7 00:00:43,370 --> 00:00:45,550 We don't have the videoographer isn't here 8 00:00:45,550 --> 00:00:49,110 at this time because it's several hours before the meeting. 9 00:00:49,290 --> 00:00:50,850 So they come for the open session. 10 00:00:51,770 --> 00:00:52,670 All right. 11 00:00:53,530 --> 00:00:55,510 Yeah, whenever, do you start? 12 00:00:55,710 --> 00:00:55,970 OK. 13 00:00:56,450 --> 00:00:56,810 OK. 14 00:00:58,390 --> 00:00:59,130 Good evening. 15 00:00:59,590 --> 00:01:03,490 Thank you for allowing these sessions to have the comments. 16 00:01:03,810 --> 00:01:05,330 Because for me, it's important. 17 00:01:05,510 --> 00:01:07,790 I wish that we had 18 00:01:07,790 --> 00:01:15,530 more community here. I am a parent who is no longer with kids in school, they graduated just 19 00:01:15,530 --> 00:01:22,930 my last one last year. But I believe that in the future, my involvement is very important 20 00:01:22,930 --> 00:01:30,030 as as anybody's parents, because my children may have children one day that are part of the district 21 00:01:30,030 --> 00:01:35,370 system. And I think it's important to know what's going on in the community. That being said, 22 00:01:35,370 --> 00:01:43,550 I'm also a big believer in just transparency and communication, which is what my public comment is about. 23 00:01:44,330 --> 00:01:52,830 I am addressing just the follow-up some request for clarity on the situation of the Barker School teacher that, 24 00:01:52,830 --> 00:02:03,430 you know, somebody who she knows felt it was pertinent enough to post what she said about why the flag was in her words half-mast. 25 00:02:03,430 --> 00:02:05,450 it was actually supposed to be half staff. 26 00:02:06,050 --> 00:02:10,430 So first off, for me, to know you're a fourth grade teacher, you don't know what the difference 27 00:02:10,430 --> 00:02:13,950 is of flag being flown properly at half staff. 28 00:02:14,090 --> 00:02:17,450 You should know that, meaning now she was clearly heated. 29 00:02:19,310 --> 00:02:25,270 Her upset was that the flag was being flown half staff because it was for a nation in morning, 30 00:02:25,290 --> 00:02:29,190 but she did not like it coming from the president, who it's clear, she doesn't like who 31 00:02:29,190 --> 00:02:29,850 the president is. 32 00:02:29,950 --> 00:02:30,510 And that's fine. 33 00:02:31,130 --> 00:02:32,170 Many people don't. 34 00:02:32,170 --> 00:02:38,510 It's the principles over personalities, long and short, it's been 27 days since the incident 35 00:02:38,510 --> 00:02:44,490 involving Allison Meyer on September 10th, and as a concerned community member, I would appreciate 36 00:02:44,490 --> 00:02:50,690 an update regarding the status of the matter and the steps that have to be taken by the 37 00:02:50,690 --> 00:02:56,250 district since it was brought to everybody's attention in our community. Transparency and accountability 38 00:02:56,250 --> 00:03:01,610 are essential to maintaining the trust between the district and the community and every parent who's 39 00:03:01,610 --> 00:03:04,150 part of that past and present and future. 40 00:03:04,910 --> 00:03:08,110 Please outline which sections of the education code, 41 00:03:08,350 --> 00:03:10,950 the district is following in addressing the situation 42 00:03:10,950 --> 00:03:13,750 and provide the rationale behind those procedures. 43 00:03:14,530 --> 00:03:16,570 Understanding the process and the timeline 44 00:03:16,570 --> 00:03:20,370 would help all in the community to be informed 45 00:03:20,370 --> 00:03:23,950 and to know that confidently the matters being handled 46 00:03:23,950 --> 00:03:27,010 appropriately and in alignment with our district policies 47 00:03:27,010 --> 00:03:27,910 and the state law. 48 00:03:28,510 --> 00:03:30,930 So I just want to thank you for understanding 49 00:03:30,930 --> 00:03:36,110 that I think these things need to be made like a public comment in our social media so big nowadays 50 00:03:36,110 --> 00:03:41,410 and I think a lot of us were looking to know what's going on. So, with that, I will yield. 51 00:03:42,630 --> 00:03:45,210 Thank you. Anyhow, to request the speech. 52 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:49,860 Not that we're made prior to starting to go that one. 53 00:03:50,020 --> 00:03:54,760 Well, I'm here during the public comment time and it's still 505. 54 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:59,640 It had to submit it before. I'm here. I mean, a good faith effort to get here. 55 00:04:00,240 --> 00:04:01,920 It seems fair and reasonable. 56 00:04:04,020 --> 00:04:08,600 I said public posters, this is, this is the only closed session. 57 00:04:09,480 --> 00:04:10,680 There's a police station. 58 00:04:11,580 --> 00:04:17,120 Well, if you had to address the ball again at 7 o'clock, then we'll be here at 7 o'clock. 59 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:21,740 Yeah, but you're taking away my ability to speak to the board on an urgent matter. 60 00:04:23,280 --> 00:04:28,420 And so we have the rule, we have the real case in case I was here before she finished speaking. 61 00:04:28,420 --> 00:04:35,520 But not before obviously, I'm sorry the traffic was heavy, but the other point is you folks should well 62 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,860 If you want to know which topic it is is dealing with the litigation 63 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,900 That beside a point and had nothing to do with the kind or the employee to dismiss the order 64 00:04:44,900 --> 00:04:51,120 What would comply with the regulation that we have in front of us if we open the door we open the door to everyone that will be 65 00:04:51,120 --> 00:04:53,600 I was here before I was here before she finished 66 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:59,840 But Mr. Gibbs, you know, as in the regular meetings that, and it says here before the start of the meeting. 67 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,180 So this would be the start of the co-session, or be- 68 00:05:02,180 --> 00:05:05,460 You know, I think you folks are fair-minded people, generally. 69 00:05:06,180 --> 00:05:08,580 I think it would be, I got tied up in traffic. 70 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:14,220 I couldn't control the traffic, but I'm just saying, in reason of illness and in fairness, 71 00:05:14,760 --> 00:05:19,360 it's important that the board here from the community, and rather than trying to come up with a reason 72 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,640 or reasons to deny people to speak. 73 00:05:22,220 --> 00:05:24,080 You should err the on the other side 74 00:05:24,080 --> 00:05:26,540 and allow me to address the board for three minutes. 75 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:28,400 Let me consult with the board. 76 00:05:28,640 --> 00:05:31,140 And then can I have to, do I have a consent to speak? 77 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,520 Anyone who would agree with it, let me speak. 78 00:05:39,590 --> 00:05:40,950 I'm okay with it. 79 00:05:40,970 --> 00:05:41,710 Table it? 80 00:05:41,710 --> 00:05:42,970 No, I'm okay with it. 81 00:05:43,230 --> 00:05:44,510 OK, so that one vote. 82 00:05:44,730 --> 00:05:45,350 And one else? 83 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:50,000 All right, so. 84 00:05:52,310 --> 00:05:52,930 It's, welcome. 85 00:05:52,930 --> 00:05:56,270 I want to say something online with the topic. 86 00:05:57,010 --> 00:05:59,310 Okay. All right. So now we'll go along with it. 87 00:05:59,570 --> 00:06:00,670 So are you doing me to come? 88 00:06:00,690 --> 00:06:02,830 Okay. I don't want it to happen every time. 89 00:06:03,230 --> 00:06:04,330 I agree. Thank you. 90 00:06:04,330 --> 00:06:06,110 Thank you for having a consent to. 91 00:06:06,110 --> 00:06:07,070 Thank you for the committee. 92 00:06:07,430 --> 00:06:08,870 I'm really sorry to talk about. 93 00:06:08,870 --> 00:06:13,830 Okay. Thank you for letting me speak to you this afternoon. 94 00:06:14,990 --> 00:06:21,750 First off before I forget, I would encourage this board to record this study sessions 95 00:06:21,750 --> 00:06:23,150 because not everybody can be here. 96 00:06:23,310 --> 00:06:29,750 Now with regard to the topic on the closed session of and it doesn't say on there, I wish 97 00:06:29,750 --> 00:06:36,710 it would did, but if you do have litigation or personnel issues, it would be nice to 98 00:06:36,710 --> 00:06:40,350 if you could identify it like the City of Garden Grove does, they'll at least put the case 99 00:06:40,350 --> 00:06:45,910 number or what the case is about or who it's against. 100 00:06:45,910 --> 00:06:50,290 But I want to address what the previous speaker Lynn had to say. 101 00:06:51,290 --> 00:06:59,290 I assume that the dismissal of the employee or taking up the issue of the employee at Barker, 102 00:06:59,430 --> 00:07:01,310 the teacher at Barker Elementary School. 103 00:07:01,470 --> 00:07:03,510 I'm assuming that that's what this is about. 104 00:07:04,390 --> 00:07:06,530 If I'm wrong, correct me. 105 00:07:07,750 --> 00:07:11,270 But we have a first amendment right in this country. 106 00:07:11,470 --> 00:07:15,010 And the first amendment is being eroded day by day in different ways. 107 00:07:15,010 --> 00:07:19,630 And I don't want to see this district be part of the erosion of the first amendment. 108 00:07:20,330 --> 00:07:26,830 I don't agree with what everybody says or posts on social media or what they say in public or what they say in private. 109 00:07:27,430 --> 00:07:29,970 But I agree that everyone has a right to say it. 110 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:44,920 Without fear of retaliation or negative consequences. Now, I've seen the post, it went, she gave it to her friends in a closed group. One of those people leaked it. 111 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:58,880 The issue is, does somebody have the right when they work for the district to be able to express personal views to a group of personal friends or family, without having it, 112 00:07:58,880 --> 00:08:02,480 turn into a retaliatory action by the school district. 113 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,640 She did not criticize the school district directly. 114 00:08:05,900 --> 00:08:08,720 She was referring to the president saying, 115 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,700 it's on for, you know, that she didn't like the flag at half staff 116 00:08:12,700 --> 00:08:13,920 or half mass. 117 00:08:14,480 --> 00:08:18,100 But the issue is the first amendment here, 118 00:08:18,600 --> 00:08:22,380 that I don't think that GGUSD should be complicit 119 00:08:22,380 --> 00:08:27,140 or going along with the erosion, because what happens is, 120 00:08:27,140 --> 00:08:32,360 people then if there's retaliation then it takes, it chills the first amendment. 121 00:08:33,680 --> 00:08:37,060 It means that people aren't going to be free to speak their mind. 122 00:08:38,580 --> 00:08:43,080 She spoke or wrote something privately as a private citizen. 123 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:50,340 Not representing the district, yes, she works, she mentioned she works in the district, but 124 00:08:50,340 --> 00:08:56,340 she spoke privately and that shouldn't be used as to chill our first amendment right. 125 00:08:56,340 --> 00:09:03,260 Again, I don't agree with necessarily what she said or how she said it, but she has the right to say without retaliation. 126 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:09,840 So that's my main thing that you would consider defending the first amendment that you're sworn to uphold. 127 00:09:10,080 --> 00:09:10,680 Thank you. 128 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:11,680 Thank you. 129 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:12,880 Any other requests to speak? 130 00:09:13,200 --> 00:09:13,760 No, they're in there. 131 00:09:14,020 --> 00:09:14,440 Thank you. 132 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,660 I'll join the meeting and go into the closest enough.