[This transcript was generated automatically from audio using AI and hasn't been reviewed by a person -- it can contain mistakes, including plausible-sounding sentences that were never actually said. Treat it as a starting point, not a verbatim record.] [0:05] We have one comment to open, we have one comment to open, we have one comment to open. [0:13] I'm going to begin meeting, I have a request to speak for Ms. Lynn Guath. [0:23] Oh, that's before the open session. We're going into closed session right now. [0:31] It will be done at 7 p.m. whenever everybody's here. This is just our pre-meeting, the closed session. [0:38] provide these video to the comments, or no? [0:41] The comments are audio tape. [0:43] We don't have the videoographer isn't here [0:45] at this time because it's several hours before the meeting. [0:49] So they come for the open session. [0:51] All right. [0:53] Yeah, whenever, do you start? [0:55] OK. [0:56] OK. [0:58] Good evening. [0:59] Thank you for allowing these sessions to have the comments. [1:03] Because for me, it's important. [1:05] I wish that we had [1:07] more community here. I am a parent who is no longer with kids in school, they graduated just [1:15] my last one last year. But I believe that in the future, my involvement is very important [1:22] as as anybody's parents, because my children may have children one day that are part of the district [1:30] system. And I think it's important to know what's going on in the community. That being said, [1:35] I'm also a big believer in just transparency and communication, which is what my public comment is about. [1:44] I am addressing just the follow-up some request for clarity on the situation of the Barker School teacher that, [1:52] you know, somebody who she knows felt it was pertinent enough to post what she said about why the flag was in her words half-mast. [2:03] it was actually supposed to be half staff. [2:06] So first off, for me, to know you're a fourth grade teacher, you don't know what the difference [2:10] is of flag being flown properly at half staff. [2:14] You should know that, meaning now she was clearly heated. [2:19] Her upset was that the flag was being flown half staff because it was for a nation in morning, [2:25] but she did not like it coming from the president, who it's clear, she doesn't like who [2:29] the president is. [2:29] And that's fine. [2:31] Many people don't. [2:32] It's the principles over personalities, long and short, it's been 27 days since the incident [2:38] involving Allison Meyer on September 10th, and as a concerned community member, I would appreciate [2:44] an update regarding the status of the matter and the steps that have to be taken by the [2:50] district since it was brought to everybody's attention in our community. Transparency and accountability [2:56] are essential to maintaining the trust between the district and the community and every parent who's [3:01] part of that past and present and future. [3:04] Please outline which sections of the education code, [3:08] the district is following in addressing the situation [3:10] and provide the rationale behind those procedures. [3:14] Understanding the process and the timeline [3:16] would help all in the community to be informed [3:20] and to know that confidently the matters being handled [3:23] appropriately and in alignment with our district policies [3:27] and the state law. [3:28] So I just want to thank you for understanding [3:30] that I think these things need to be made like a public comment in our social media so big nowadays [3:36] and I think a lot of us were looking to know what's going on. So, with that, I will yield. [3:42] Thank you. Anyhow, to request the speech. [3:48] Not that we're made prior to starting to go that one. [3:50] Well, I'm here during the public comment time and it's still 505. [3:55] It had to submit it before. I'm here. I mean, a good faith effort to get here. [4:00] It seems fair and reasonable. [4:04] I said public posters, this is, this is the only closed session. [4:09] There's a police station. [4:11] Well, if you had to address the ball again at 7 o'clock, then we'll be here at 7 o'clock. [4:17] Yeah, but you're taking away my ability to speak to the board on an urgent matter. [4:23] And so we have the rule, we have the real case in case I was here before she finished speaking. [4:28] But not before obviously, I'm sorry the traffic was heavy, but the other point is you folks should well [4:35] If you want to know which topic it is is dealing with the litigation [4:40] That beside a point and had nothing to do with the kind or the employee to dismiss the order [4:44] What would comply with the regulation that we have in front of us if we open the door we open the door to everyone that will be [4:51] I was here before I was here before she finished [4:53] But Mr. Gibbs, you know, as in the regular meetings that, and it says here before the start of the meeting. [5:00] So this would be the start of the co-session, or be- [5:02] You know, I think you folks are fair-minded people, generally. [5:06] I think it would be, I got tied up in traffic. [5:08] I couldn't control the traffic, but I'm just saying, in reason of illness and in fairness, [5:14] it's important that the board here from the community, and rather than trying to come up with a reason [5:19] or reasons to deny people to speak. [5:22] You should err the on the other side [5:24] and allow me to address the board for three minutes. [5:27] Let me consult with the board. [5:28] And then can I have to, do I have a consent to speak? [5:32] Anyone who would agree with it, let me speak. [5:39] I'm okay with it. [5:40] Table it? [5:41] No, I'm okay with it. [5:43] OK, so that one vote. [5:44] And one else? [5:47] All right, so. [5:52] It's, welcome. [5:52] I want to say something online with the topic. [5:57] Okay. All right. So now we'll go along with it. [5:59] So are you doing me to come? [6:00] Okay. I don't want it to happen every time. [6:03] I agree. Thank you. [6:04] Thank you for having a consent to. [6:06] Thank you for the committee. [6:07] I'm really sorry to talk about. [6:08] Okay. Thank you for letting me speak to you this afternoon. [6:14] First off before I forget, I would encourage this board to record this study sessions [6:21] because not everybody can be here. [6:23] Now with regard to the topic on the closed session of and it doesn't say on there, I wish [6:29] it would did, but if you do have litigation or personnel issues, it would be nice to [6:36] if you could identify it like the City of Garden Grove does, they'll at least put the case [6:40] number or what the case is about or who it's against. [6:45] But I want to address what the previous speaker Lynn had to say. [6:51] I assume that the dismissal of the employee or taking up the issue of the employee at Barker, [6:59] the teacher at Barker Elementary School. [7:01] I'm assuming that that's what this is about. [7:04] If I'm wrong, correct me. [7:07] But we have a first amendment right in this country. [7:11] And the first amendment is being eroded day by day in different ways. [7:15] And I don't want to see this district be part of the erosion of the first amendment. [7:20] I don't agree with what everybody says or posts on social media or what they say in public or what they say in private. [7:27] But I agree that everyone has a right to say it. [7:30] Without fear of retaliation or negative consequences. Now, I've seen the post, it went, she gave it to her friends in a closed group. One of those people leaked it. [7:45] The issue is, does somebody have the right when they work for the district to be able to express personal views to a group of personal friends or family, without having it, [7:58] turn into a retaliatory action by the school district. [8:03] She did not criticize the school district directly. [8:05] She was referring to the president saying, [8:08] it's on for, you know, that she didn't like the flag at half staff [8:12] or half mass. [8:14] But the issue is the first amendment here, [8:18] that I don't think that GGUSD should be complicit [8:22] or going along with the erosion, because what happens is, [8:27] people then if there's retaliation then it takes, it chills the first amendment. [8:33] It means that people aren't going to be free to speak their mind. [8:38] She spoke or wrote something privately as a private citizen. [8:45] Not representing the district, yes, she works, she mentioned she works in the district, but [8:50] she spoke privately and that shouldn't be used as to chill our first amendment right. [8:56] Again, I don't agree with necessarily what she said or how she said it, but she has the right to say without retaliation. [9:03] So that's my main thing that you would consider defending the first amendment that you're sworn to uphold. [9:10] Thank you. [9:10] Thank you. [9:11] Any other requests to speak? [9:13] No, they're in there. [9:14] Thank you. [9:14] I'll join the meeting and go into the closest enough.