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good evening welcome calling order the

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City Council regular meeting Wednesday

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November 6 6 p.m. roll call all counsel

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are present and if you would please

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stand and join me in the pledge

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okay moving on item number four city employee recognitions and a

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miss Kane for a

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certificate of appreciation was

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presented to the Garden Ridge Police

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Department and grateful recognition for

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their efforts to support homes for our

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troops

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my my hero award was presented to

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officer Richard McMann in appreciation

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for serving the community in the Garden

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Ridge Police Department

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Jeremiah McKinney sent - thank you -

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City Council the wildlife commissioners

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Marisa Spencer cap Balby and myself for

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his enjoyable experience while being on

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the wildlife management Advisory

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Commission

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water manager Jacob Parsons completed

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his 180 day probation on October 18th

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2019 congratulations Jacob and

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we have two employees that we want to

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recognize their tenure

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service years with the city of Garden

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Ridge and those employees are

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Steinmetz for 19 years of service

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19 years

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thank you both for the five and nineteen

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years of service we really appreciate

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all you do for our city moving on item

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number five citizen comment period the

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rules when you signed up they were on

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there on a sign-up sheet and I believe I

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don't see a lot of new faces in here but

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just a reminder that it's not an

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exchange you're you're speaking to the

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council to be on the record and the council will not be responding

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we'll be taking notes and just listening

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to what you have to say you have three

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minutes come up here name and address

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does not count for your three minutes

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the clock will start then all right

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first up and you have to sign up for

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this one now there is a

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citizen common period at the end that

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you do not have to have signed up for so

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if you hear something during during this

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meeting and you want to you want to a

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comment on it you'll still have an

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opportunity at the end of the the

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council meeting as well so first up is

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number one Toni Fratto

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thank you I'd like to thank all the

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veterans

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throughout the country and garden Ridge

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for other service and keeping America and thank you

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all right I name an ant rise sir oh I'm

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sorry

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Tony fresco

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8802 wildwind Park I

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would like there's an ordinance to 10-0

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two two zero one eight which is the

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rules and regulations for the council

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Section G I wish the some of the council

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would read this because then that's a

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big supposed to be on social media

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speaking about anything going on in the

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town

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there's another section five

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fair and impartial review that's not

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just for the Commission staff plus the

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audience because I've heard some snide

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remarks which I don't really appreciate

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now as far as it goes you're going to

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put drinking fountains in and I'm all

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for it to have the kids have water and

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everything but you cannot take that I

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was drinking fountains off that existing

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line that was just put in in Paul Davis

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Park that's considered a contaminated

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line there could be poisons there could

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animal waste there could be a variety of

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things there so there's a chance that

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the drinking fountains will distribute

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contaminated water this is state code so

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you have to pull the water off prior to

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that backflow device

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so just to make it known we have to

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protect the kids and everybody using

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those fountains so please do it right

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also and I can't figure this out for the

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transparency

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there was a House bill passed two eight

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four zero

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which means the public can speak by

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raising their hands now you as a council

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and mayor have to put down what limits

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and what restrictions there are I don't

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believe that you can use the same

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restrictions you using now

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for that you have to come up with new

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restrictions so please tell me why what

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get to me what get to the people why

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since September 1st

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we've only been allowed to

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get 3 minutes in and whatever 2 minutes

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at the end but if there's something

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coming up on the table according to this

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legislation we have a right to speak so

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I would like to be addressed why for two

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months that we were not able to do this is not transparency and I looked

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over this bill and I can't find anything

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other than this thank you very much

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next up we have Tristan Arvidsson

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came here tonight to do a check up on my

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youth Scout project I built a pocket

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park on Fairview Circle it's mostly done

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we're waiting on some boulders for a

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border they should come in soon

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I'd like to request with your permission

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that this park be named the Eagle Scout

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park because if we had a vote at

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true beating last Monday and that was

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the the highest voted for name so

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I'm sure this will come up when the

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wallet or what is it the Parks

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Commission has their time so as long as

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you just keep that thought in your head

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and see what you think thank you

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next up we have Dave LaForge 2 1 9 1 9 castaño Cove my

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comments are related to water rates I

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wrote the mayor in September that

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details of the metrics methodology data

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that's just flying the specific rates

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ought to be presented or at least

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provided to the public before any rate

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changes are voted on

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Garden Ridge residents are pretty smart

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people they know the details that are

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important to understanding these votes

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and if they understand them they can do

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better with that information the mayor

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stated during the September 10th council

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meeting that he didn't pick up on the

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fact that the rates had gone up as much

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as they had and that the rates were

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simply voted on based on an experts

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advise that means to me that the metrics

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the methodology and the data justifying

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the rate changes either weren't

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presented to the council or or weren't

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understood by the council I'd like to

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see those metrics I'd like to see what's

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driving the rates

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likewise managing personal water

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consumption is my family's

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responsibility not the government don't

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directly link water rates with usage

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rates support for water conservation

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isn't solved or improved by increasing

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the water rates I'm capable to decide

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who win and how to conserve

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besides Garden Ridge has methodology in

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place and it's a really good one to

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encourage conservation through the

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drought management plan point is that

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are more effective and more receptive

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ways to encourage rather than force

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conservation as they said Garden Ridge

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residents are smart people yeah a lot of

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them are removed from the details to

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manage and lead the city they don't

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necessarily come here for the meetings

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but don't take them for granted if the

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city can't provide the details behind

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any rate changes and I recommend no vote

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until they daughter thank you

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next up we have Ken conniver

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ken Taniya 88-91 Shane tal Road and I

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tempt you now tonight is a board member

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of the gorge ranch property owners

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association board of directors on your

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agenda for tonight you're gonna hear

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there is gonna be discussion about

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trapping the feral hogs using the

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current trapper that we are using for

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the deer I highly recommend it I would

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because there is a place to put it right

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where the pen is that now we have found

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looking at game cameras that those

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hogs have been trapped before at least

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two of the older ones so they know what

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to do they keep the younger ones away

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but they will not know what to do at

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this one because it be camera controlled

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and they'll be up and it'll drop on them

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and then the DPD you'll be notified

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right away to come and take care of the

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hogs so you don't destroy their pens

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because does hogs are strong and they're

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destructible

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so they are very big and if they can

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pull up a fence and pick it up unless

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you bury a three foot down trust me they

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can do a lot of damage to any pen I've

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seen what they've done to big Corral

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pens at Sarah Santoni River Authority

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when I went to a Saturday conference

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with them or a seminar so then these

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house they're smart

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trust me I know pigs are not the dumbest

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animals in the world the dumbest ones

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are the deer because they will go right

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to feed

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these hogs are staying away from the

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feed their stand away from the feeders

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they're not going into pens

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and if they're smart enough they can

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push the pin in and then go eat what's

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that there they will do that and then

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release it and they go a little bit

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further they keep pushing the pin in if

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they can so these hogs are very

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intelligent animals and they are very

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smart so please allow whatever period of

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time you think is reasonable in the last

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three weeks since we've gotten rain and

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the weather's gotten cooler the hog

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attacks in yard attacks I should say bye

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the hogs and George ranch have gone down

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to none we've not had any reports and

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the only reason I know that is I get I

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was getting a lot of emails daily when

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they were active because I'm the point

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of contact that with the city to deal

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with with them both with animal control

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and now with mr. Steinmetz and with the

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support we have gotten from the city has

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been outstanding and I would like to

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thank then those two gentlemen very much

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and everybody with the city who has

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helped us with this problem so please if

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it comes up and is you gonna vote for it

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please vote in favor of it because I

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think it'll help control the

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feral hog problem we've got we need to

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get rid of the lease as small groups and

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there's maybe one or two small batches

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in there get rid of those in there the

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others will not come back they'll stay

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away thank you very much

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okay moving on item number six consent

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agenda council remind you that in the

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interest of trying to

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keep these meetings from going until

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midnight a few more things are being put

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in and consent agenda but you'll be

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getting these things well ahead of time

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and it's always public the packages of

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public the decisions are public so it's

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not like we're trying to to not talk

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about things and in public and you

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always have the trump card to say we're

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literally weeks prior that you want

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something not in the consent agenda but

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in a business item but if they're

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relatively mundane or routine things

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I'm going to continue to try to put them

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in the consent agenda to to move the

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meeting along so that said there are a

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number of things in consent agenda like

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to see if anybody needs any of them

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pulled or if I can get a motion to

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approve the consent agenda I

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move to approve the items on the current

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consent agenda I have a motion to

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approve

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the items on the consent agenda from

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place five can I get a second second

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from place three any further discussion

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or questions

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absent that all in favor of the consent

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agenda as published being approved say I

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any opposed it is unanimous thank you

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moving on the staff reports item number

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seven city administrator good for me

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the only thing that I would like to add

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to my report to City Council is that we

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are trying to promote electronic water

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billing out of approximately 1700 water

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bill accounts we've had a hundred and

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thirty residents sign up for the

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electronic billing

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there we encourage

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people to sign up on the registration

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form provide the information necessary

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to get the electronic water bills to

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them and I believe that the ladies have

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placed some forms on the table over here

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to the side where they have the agendas

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so that they're available and

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that's all I had to add to my report

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Thank You Miam and before I before I go

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through council just want to add to that

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please if you haven't done it do it and

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talk it up it's not only a better a

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better system for the city and to save

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on some labor as well as postage but

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it's actually better for the individual

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it's more secure you don't have your

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personal information sitting in

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mailboxes and sitting in envelopes

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instead it's just sent directly to you

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it and and you get it you get it right

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away and you have plenty of time to

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act on a bill that you that you have a

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problem with or something like that it

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actually is quicker than if you get it

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in a envelope and we I'll tell you that

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as we as we implement this will be

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adding links to grapevine and and

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schedules

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you know the

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calendar to make sure that people still

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are getting the kind of information that

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they get as they receive this in the

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mail so questions comments on city

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administrators monthly activity reports

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starting in right side

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okay thank you miss Kane next up is a

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police department chief thank you I do

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have a couple of things I'd like to add

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bulk of the information is up there

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however there are three other items

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additional items I'd like to speak a

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little bit more on if we could put the

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first one up we were invited to attend

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and assist the bracken United Methodist

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Church recently they had their community

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helped week and they wanted officers

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from us to come out and talk to the

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children about community helping and so

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forth so over a two-day period four

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officers went out there and spoke and

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worked with about 350 children and so

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that was they have a very large daycare

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out there and children so they were

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appreciative and took this picture and

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framed it and sent it back to us so I

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thought that was a very interesting

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although they technically are not in our

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city we do consider them part of our

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community as they many of the members of

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that church live here in guard Ridge so

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I wanted that brought up also you heard

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just a minute ago from from our Scout we

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have completed the Fairview Park to the

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point where it can be considered a park

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I've had the city engineers draw up a

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new map with the thousand foot rule on

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that so we have an additional park now

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covering another additional area and I

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wanted to bring that up and show you

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that we do have everything up to date on

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the on the webpage and available since

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it was an Eagle Scout project we wanted

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to bring that up to y'all here in a

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public meeting and

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last but not least you'll see some of us

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are looking a little scruffy right now

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we have decided to participate in the No

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Shave November to bring awareness to

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cancer mainly prostate colon cancer this

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month so officers will be wearing a

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little blue lapel pin over their name

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tag and indicates that they are

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participating and have contributed at

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least $50 to a Cancer Research or cancer

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giving organization here locally and

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that is all I have at this point sir

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thanks sir

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did you want to talk about the

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retirement oh I'm sorry I did forget one

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other thing it was just announced today

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actually officially that Detective

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Spiller has announced his retirement so

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he will be retiring first week of

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January so we wish him the best and I

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wanted y'all to be first to get that

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news so he will be leaving us shortly

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Thank You chief and questions or

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comments on the police police reports

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running left side

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Mike

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I look forward to the party thank you

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very much and I'm sorry I did have

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something else and went out my my brain

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so sorry sir

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there's some kind of cleanly shaven face

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is sitting up front here at the Dyess as

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well some of us are maybe a little

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furrier than others but

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I'd be willing to join in on no-shave

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November your any don't kick makes it

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easy for me doesn't it

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that's all I got

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over on his side

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Thank You chief next up is Public Works

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mr. diamonds

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we recently received our new crack seal

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machine trailer mounted and Bobcat

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Miller attachment for being able to

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quickly do road repairs more efficiently

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we provided

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playgrounds material and

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other types of a border for the new

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Baraboo Park set up

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and

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[Music]

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we have currently we have not caught any

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hogs as today last we've seen any come

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to the traps were the 27th of October

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on the right side questions for mr.

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Steinmetz public works

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am good yes please under future projects

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are needs sir I know we have two items

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there I know in the past six or so

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months ago I believe we discussed

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potentially creating a roof for our

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vehicles we have I don't see that on

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here

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well that's kind of part of it we're

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considering all options when we're

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looking we're likely looking at putting

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more office space up there so we're

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actually milling that around also we're

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going to put that into the cost okay

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we're possible okay so it's really part

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of that maybe it's maybe you could state

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that next time as a consideration that's

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all

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thank you

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all right sir thank you very much

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next up is water department

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mr. Parsons

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good evening

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all right

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[Music]

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okay so as you notice in your packet we

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have used a lot of Edward's water we're

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actually getting down to where we've

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shut off the Edwards the 22:52 wells so

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we're not using pulling any more water

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from that aquifer we're actually using

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Trinity and we're just on Trinity so I

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wanted to point that out

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secondly

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we had some leaks that we had the big

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one was a fire hydrant on goldenrod

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circle and I just wanted to make you

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guys aware that it was a leak that we

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estimated about a forty-eight thousand

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gallons that when it broke it was leaked

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down it was contained rather quickly and

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we got it back and it's actually back in

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the ground working and operating

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also we've had a lot as as you know

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we've had a lot of water leak

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adjustments we're water leak adjustment

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requests and we have gone through a lot

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of them it's taking a long time it takes

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at a minimum about two hours to go from

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start to finish for elite water leak

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adjustment

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so far we've gone through 38 of them

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we're waiting for some information on

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some of them six of them have been

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approved

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seven of them have been sent to the

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Water Commission so and that's where we

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are standing right now when I put this

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form in we we've actually been doing a

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lot of work and every week we do more

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and more so

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we've also had a meter flow test these

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are filled meter tests where we go to

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the house someone complains our is

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questioning the meter the accuracy of

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the meter we go ahead and put a

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different style and type of meter and we

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run a ten gallon water test through it

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and we are finding that the accuracy we

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have not found any thus far that have

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been inaccurate or that would need to be

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subject or sent to a third party we have

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had a few that have requested to be sent

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to a third party this week so we'll be

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doing that

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other than that we have laptop readings

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so these are requests from our customers

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that say hey something's going on I

515
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don't know what's going on with my water

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can you come out and look at that so

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we'll go out and take a laptop reading

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which gives us an hour an hour hour by

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hour to look of what's going on and I'm

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sure some of you are aware of these some

521
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of you may not be but but what we're

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finding is irrigation used potential

523
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irrigation use potential leaks and in

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different things it's pretty evident

525
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the water leak adjustment based on this

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and this was all from the Water

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Commission when they sent it to us that

528
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being said we have done this month 89

529
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last month we did 122 so there's a lot

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of work going into finding out what's

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going on with the meters and leaks and

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leak adjustments so I just wanted to

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make you guys aware of that

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without you

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thank you mr. Parsons I want to go back

536
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to something you talked about and to be

537
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clear it wasn't a leak from from a

538
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hydrant it was a hit-and-run with a car

539
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that took out the hydrant and then they

540
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decided to leave and I'd like to turn it

541
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over to the chief because we're we're

542
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still investigating this clay chief we

543
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are sir we don't want to release a lot

544
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of information on that however if

545
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anybody has any we what we had was at

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the end of the cul-de-sac there it just

547
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so happened it worked out that both of

548
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those residents were out of town and the

549
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house was being looked upon looked after

550
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by relatives and friends we had two of

551
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those individuals contact us and say

552
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they heard something and didn't report

553
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anything until they were leaving and saw

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the water

555
00:27:07,250 --> 00:27:09,540
flowing down the street and through the

556
00:27:09,540 --> 00:27:12,660
yard so if anybody has any information

557
00:27:12,660 --> 00:27:13,650
on that we're asking them to come

558
00:27:13,650 --> 00:27:15,690
forward we've posted it but at this

559
00:27:15,690 --> 00:27:17,190
point that is still under investigation

560
00:27:17,190 --> 00:27:20,130
so we are still working that case thank

561
00:27:20,130 --> 00:27:23,400
you chief anything else I just want to

562
00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:26,130
mention that Brad Oliver II he's the

563
00:27:26,130 --> 00:27:28,690
water deputy he actually obtained his

564
00:27:28,690 --> 00:27:30,940
backflow assembly license and which were

565
00:27:30,940 --> 00:27:33,070
really proud of him for doing so if you

566
00:27:33,070 --> 00:27:34,630
see him tell congratulations please

567
00:27:34,630 --> 00:27:36,730
great thank you thank you starting over

568
00:27:36,730 --> 00:27:37,960
on the left side questions for water

569
00:27:37,960 --> 00:27:40,630
manager no thanks

570
00:27:40,630 --> 00:27:43,540
how about compliments I got a phone call

571
00:27:43,540 --> 00:27:45,030
yesterday from a good friend of mine I

572
00:27:45,030 --> 00:27:46,930
won't use his name because he didn't

573
00:27:46,930 --> 00:27:48,640
want me to their arm but he complimented

574
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,560
you on your professionalism and handling

575
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:52,840
this water rate issue and the meters and

576
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,070
everything else and he's not somebody

577
00:27:54,070 --> 00:27:55,210
that would typically call up and

578
00:27:55,210 --> 00:27:57,220
compliment so you can get it in in time

579
00:27:57,220 --> 00:27:58,960
to get it into Nancy but I can do it

580
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:00,610
right here now and right in front you so

581
00:28:00,610 --> 00:28:04,440
thanks thank you

582
00:28:04,440 --> 00:28:10,000
ma'am sir thank you very much

583
00:28:10,010 --> 00:28:11,100
[Music]

584
00:28:11,100 --> 00:28:13,620
next up librarian

585
00:28:13,620 --> 00:28:19,970
miss Crossland

586
00:28:19,980 --> 00:28:23,950
good evening a very quick report on our

587
00:28:23,950 --> 00:28:27,340
first ever trunk-or-treat I put down in

588
00:28:27,340 --> 00:28:30,400
the report we had 400 people that was a

589
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:33,940
very conservative estimate because we

590
00:28:33,940 --> 00:28:37,320
didn't start counting until about 5:20

591
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:39,910
our counter didn't count all the people

592
00:28:39,910 --> 00:28:42,310
who had trunks and they didn't count the

593
00:28:42,310 --> 00:28:45,490
police are quite a few people so it was

594
00:28:45,490 --> 00:28:48,730
well over 400 and it was cold but we had

595
00:28:48,730 --> 00:28:51,730
a great time thank you police for

596
00:28:51,730 --> 00:28:55,140
helping park and helping get voters to

597
00:28:55,140 --> 00:28:58,300
come and vote I encouraged people to

598
00:28:58,300 --> 00:29:00,940
come thank you Public Works for helping

599
00:29:00,940 --> 00:29:04,030
us get set up I am wearing my red white

600
00:29:04,030 --> 00:29:07,300
and blue flag scarf as a reminder that

601
00:29:07,300 --> 00:29:10,060
this Friday after tomorrow at 10:30 a.m.

602
00:29:10,060 --> 00:29:14,130
in this room we will be celebrating our

603
00:29:14,130 --> 00:29:17,280
Veterans Day tribute

604
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:20,050
this is just a wonderful thing I hope

605
00:29:20,050 --> 00:29:22,450
all veterans can come and let us just

606
00:29:22,450 --> 00:29:26,080
say thank you in the back there's a

607
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:30,010
little flower pot and it I have a list

608
00:29:30,010 --> 00:29:32,100
there of everyone we put up a big

609
00:29:32,100 --> 00:29:34,710
display over here with people's names

610
00:29:34,710 --> 00:29:39,550
and their names on a star it's our wall

611
00:29:39,550 --> 00:29:40,510
of

612
00:29:40,510 --> 00:29:43,240
and so back there I have people listed

613
00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:45,850
if I already have your name on a star if

614
00:29:45,850 --> 00:29:48,720
your name is not there please

615
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:52,900
write your name down and also anyone who

616
00:29:52,900 --> 00:29:55,630
can send a picture of photo of yourself

617
00:29:55,630 --> 00:30:00,370
in uniform to the library it will be on

618
00:30:00,370 --> 00:30:02,140
a slideshow that will be going when

619
00:30:02,140 --> 00:30:05,760
people come in any questions

620
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,350
on the right side any questions from

621
00:30:08,350 --> 00:30:12,409
miss cross them

622
00:30:12,419 --> 00:30:15,520
yeah a trunk a tree great and I'll just

623
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,910
echo please please please don't assume

624
00:30:18,910 --> 00:30:21,630
that the folks that you know know about

625
00:30:21,630 --> 00:30:24,760
the Veterans Day tribute that we do in

626
00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:25,830
here

627
00:30:25,830 --> 00:30:28,419
make sure they know don't tell everybody

628
00:30:28,419 --> 00:30:30,309
that you know about this and by the way

629
00:30:30,309 --> 00:30:33,280
it's not just for veterans it's for

630
00:30:33,280 --> 00:30:36,040
people to come in to celebrate that so

631
00:30:36,040 --> 00:30:38,140
you don't have to be a veteran to be in

632
00:30:38,140 --> 00:30:40,720
here for that and spouses we want to

633
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:44,200
honor spouses but and then people who

634
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:47,350
just want to say thank you yes thank you

635
00:30:47,350 --> 00:30:49,650
very much Linda

636
00:30:49,650 --> 00:31:05,810
next up is item number 8 City Engineer

637
00:31:05,820 --> 00:31:08,120
good evening mayor council

638
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:11,490
we've got our report weekly run through

639
00:31:11,490 --> 00:31:13,950
it one of the introduce to Colin Brewer

640
00:31:13,950 --> 00:31:16,500
one of our young engineers here with me

641
00:31:16,500 --> 00:31:18,240
tonight there's a lot of work with the

642
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,320
city on various projects

643
00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:25,800
22:52 again no action this month but we

644
00:31:25,800 --> 00:31:27,960
anticipate a January meeting with tech

645
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:29,720
stock where they're supposed to have 50%

646
00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:33,480
design plans we anticipate some possible

647
00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:36,120
utility conflicts and we're eager to get

648
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,610
those plans as we understand it right

649
00:31:38,610 --> 00:31:41,390
now the

650
00:31:41,390 --> 00:31:44,150
any conflicts that we've may run into

651
00:31:44,150 --> 00:31:46,380
because they're in easements where we

652
00:31:46,380 --> 00:31:48,780
anticipate those would be covered by

653
00:31:48,780 --> 00:31:50,580
tech stop and they're not wouldn't be a

654
00:31:50,580 --> 00:31:53,210
city expense

655
00:31:53,210 --> 00:31:57,480
22:52 water wastewater we're continuing

656
00:31:57,480 --> 00:32:00,510
to talk to landowners in the area and

657
00:32:00,510 --> 00:32:03,710
look at possible

658
00:32:03,710 --> 00:32:06,960
development and utility needs planning

659
00:32:06,960 --> 00:32:10,350
those projects woods the Garden Ridge

660
00:32:10,350 --> 00:32:14,280
benzel Road the revegetation is still

661
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,650
pending the recent rains have been quite

662
00:32:16,650 --> 00:32:18,930
helpful but we're still waiting on final

663
00:32:18,930 --> 00:32:22,440
growth the recent rains eliminated some

664
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,710
of the past

665
00:32:24,710 --> 00:32:26,580
residential flooding issues we've had

666
00:32:26,580 --> 00:32:28,410
downstream so I think that was

667
00:32:28,410 --> 00:32:30,470
successful

668
00:32:30,470 --> 00:32:34,200
Plaza oaks water line work continues on

669
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:37,440
that they have passed a pressure tests

670
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,990
and bhakti tests but there's quite a bit

671
00:32:39,990 --> 00:32:41,520
of cleanup and quite a bit of work that

672
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:43,470
needs to be done to complete that

673
00:32:43,470 --> 00:32:45,180
project so we're continuing to monitor

674
00:32:45,180 --> 00:32:46,250
that

675
00:32:46,250 --> 00:32:49,860
city transportation master plan that

676
00:32:49,860 --> 00:32:51,720
it's been completed and it's under

677
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:54,230
review by city staff

678
00:32:54,230 --> 00:32:56,790
Blackwell office building we've been

679
00:32:56,790 --> 00:32:59,580
exchanging comments with their architect

680
00:32:59,580 --> 00:33:01,020
and engineer

681
00:33:01,020 --> 00:33:03,350
we've got reply comments

682
00:33:03,350 --> 00:33:05,640
we've address we're addressing those

683
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,560
reviewing those and continuing to work

684
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,860
on that project to move it forward

685
00:33:09,860 --> 00:33:12,390
northeast Bible Church we've got plans

686
00:33:12,390 --> 00:33:15,980
on that and we're reviewing that

687
00:33:15,980 --> 00:33:18,790
particular attention to the drainage

688
00:33:18,790 --> 00:33:21,460
for that site and we'll be getting them

689
00:33:21,460 --> 00:33:23,890
comments back and expect there'll be

690
00:33:23,890 --> 00:33:26,320
some recent Middle required to address

691
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,820
those issues

692
00:33:28,830 --> 00:33:32,230
2019 the GIS and water model study we're

693
00:33:32,230 --> 00:33:34,360
finishing up that and hope to have a

694
00:33:34,360 --> 00:33:36,370
meeting with city staff here in the next

695
00:33:36,370 --> 00:33:40,650
couple weeks to address that and

696
00:33:40,650 --> 00:33:44,340
bring that up and up to date and

697
00:33:44,340 --> 00:33:47,590
continuing preparing the master plan for

698
00:33:47,590 --> 00:33:49,530
that project

699
00:33:49,530 --> 00:33:52,570
zoning map just to update to the zoning

700
00:33:52,570 --> 00:33:55,180
maps to reflect current zoning

701
00:33:55,180 --> 00:33:57,850
throughout the city and as aid for city

702
00:33:57,850 --> 00:34:01,540
staff to refer to for planning we saw

703
00:34:01,540 --> 00:34:04,830
the city park sakes known child zone

704
00:34:04,830 --> 00:34:07,480
as well I'm happy to answer any

705
00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:08,110
questions

706
00:34:08,110 --> 00:34:11,020
providing additional information thank

707
00:34:11,020 --> 00:34:12,700
you sir starting left-side questions for

708
00:34:12,700 --> 00:34:17,930
city engineer

709
00:34:17,940 --> 00:34:21,490
can you give us more of an exact status

710
00:34:21,490 --> 00:34:24,090
on the blackwell office building

711
00:34:24,090 --> 00:34:26,830
what the slow up is and how long do you

712
00:34:26,830 --> 00:34:28,419
think it'll be before it can it gets

713
00:34:28,419 --> 00:34:31,610
rectified

714
00:34:31,620 --> 00:34:35,310
we receive plans in

715
00:34:35,310 --> 00:34:39,520
late February we responded on the 7th of

716
00:34:39,520 --> 00:34:42,340
October to those plans there are a

717
00:34:42,340 --> 00:34:43,890
number of deficiencies

718
00:34:43,890 --> 00:34:45,760
additional information that was

719
00:34:45,760 --> 00:34:47,429
necessary

720
00:34:47,429 --> 00:34:49,620
they responded with

721
00:34:49,620 --> 00:34:52,290
additional documentation

722
00:34:52,290 --> 00:34:54,690
on the 24th

723
00:34:54,690 --> 00:34:58,470
the main issues were lack of

724
00:34:58,470 --> 00:35:00,150
engineering

725
00:35:00,150 --> 00:35:02,860
calculations and other information to be

726
00:35:02,860 --> 00:35:05,080
provided so we can evaluate it's not the

727
00:35:05,080 --> 00:35:08,190
city engineers job to design the project

728
00:35:08,190 --> 00:35:11,460
we received that information on the 24th

729
00:35:11,460 --> 00:35:16,210
and we're repairing a response letter a

730
00:35:16,210 --> 00:35:18,300
lot of the information is still not

731
00:35:18,300 --> 00:35:23,430
fully adequate we're a

732
00:35:23,430 --> 00:35:25,690
response that it's done this way in

733
00:35:25,690 --> 00:35:27,790
another city it's not doesn't apply to

734
00:35:27,790 --> 00:35:29,890
Garden Ridge and specific requirements

735
00:35:29,890 --> 00:35:31,619
and and how things are done so we're

736
00:35:31,619 --> 00:35:32,640
trying to make it as complete as

737
00:35:32,640 --> 00:35:34,710
possible to get a complete response and

738
00:35:34,710 --> 00:35:36,859
get back to them and

739
00:35:36,859 --> 00:35:40,410
have not heard from the project manager

740
00:35:40,410 --> 00:35:42,540
or the owner but be happy to meet with

741
00:35:42,540 --> 00:35:45,930
them and address those issues it's good

742
00:35:45,930 --> 00:35:47,670
thank you sir

743
00:35:47,670 --> 00:35:49,859
one other thing the zoning are we gonna

744
00:35:49,859 --> 00:35:51,060
have any residential zoning

745
00:35:51,060 --> 00:35:53,730
classification in the city or are you

746
00:35:53,730 --> 00:35:56,130
just dealing with a zoning along we got

747
00:35:56,130 --> 00:35:59,849
3 mm 2252 now this is more of a historic

748
00:35:59,849 --> 00:36:02,250
zoning cities had zoning maps in the

749
00:36:02,250 --> 00:36:04,859
past but with changes in parcels and

750
00:36:04,859 --> 00:36:07,980
plats just an update to make sure that's

751
00:36:07,980 --> 00:36:10,050
properly reflected it's not we're not

752
00:36:10,050 --> 00:36:12,180
changing city city zoning requirements

753
00:36:12,180 --> 00:36:13,980
we don't have any zoning in in the city

754
00:36:13,980 --> 00:36:15,980
right now so other

755
00:36:15,980 --> 00:36:19,710
main highway so it's I it was it struck

756
00:36:19,710 --> 00:36:21,869
me when I first moved this area because

757
00:36:21,869 --> 00:36:23,369
that's what I you know I that's part of

758
00:36:23,369 --> 00:36:25,740
the research I do it by business and we

759
00:36:25,740 --> 00:36:28,320
don't have a zoning code in in Garden

760
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:29,730
Ridge for residential I just wondered if

761
00:36:29,730 --> 00:36:31,500
that was ever going to take place not

762
00:36:31,500 --> 00:36:32,910
that it makes a darn bit of difference

763
00:36:32,910 --> 00:36:41,410
okay

764
00:36:41,420 --> 00:36:45,170
thank you mr. Lang

765
00:36:45,170 --> 00:36:47,400
number nine City Commission committee

766
00:36:47,400 --> 00:36:49,410
reports recommendations possible actions

767
00:36:49,410 --> 00:36:52,800
item a is planning zoning did not have a

768
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,780
meeting since the last time we met but

769
00:36:54,780 --> 00:36:56,130
I'll turn it to dr. Miller if he's got

770
00:36:56,130 --> 00:36:57,980
something

771
00:36:57,980 --> 00:37:01,380
I had nothing to add to what you just

772
00:37:01,380 --> 00:37:03,630
said we we cancel both meetings in

773
00:37:03,630 --> 00:37:05,520
October we're looking forward to a

774
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,730
meeting on the 12th of November at which

775
00:37:08,730 --> 00:37:12,030
time we're expecting a representative of

776
00:37:12,030 --> 00:37:16,020
freeze nichols chase parks to come and

777
00:37:16,020 --> 00:37:18,109
update us on

778
00:37:18,109 --> 00:37:21,510
three main areas that we had trouble

779
00:37:21,510 --> 00:37:23,250
with and they may in the other ordinance

780
00:37:23,250 --> 00:37:25,369
I think with short-term rentals

781
00:37:25,369 --> 00:37:27,510
accessory buildings and accessory

782
00:37:27,510 --> 00:37:29,790
structures that it miss canes those

783
00:37:29,790 --> 00:37:32,010
three things in particular but we plan

784
00:37:32,010 --> 00:37:33,900
to ask some other questions about where

785
00:37:33,900 --> 00:37:36,170
we are as a

786
00:37:36,170 --> 00:37:38,730
workaround for the legislative changes

787
00:37:38,730 --> 00:37:42,030
that kind of drove us to a school ground

788
00:37:42,030 --> 00:37:43,940
us to a halt

789
00:37:43,940 --> 00:37:47,140
that's all I had for planning of Zoning

790
00:37:47,140 --> 00:37:49,210
Thanks

791
00:37:49,210 --> 00:37:53,030
and any questions from Council for

792
00:37:53,030 --> 00:37:54,620
linings own chair start with the right

793
00:37:54,620 --> 00:38:02,490
side

794
00:38:02,500 --> 00:38:05,330
the purpose of this next meeting Tuesday

795
00:38:05,330 --> 00:38:08,870
evening with six o'clock here is again

796
00:38:08,870 --> 00:38:13,070
for mr. sparks chance sparks to address

797
00:38:13,070 --> 00:38:15,050
specifically the three key issues that

798
00:38:15,050 --> 00:38:16,280
have been the most significant issues

799
00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,920
for planning and zoning commission and I

800
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:21,710
think it'd be a super idea if all of us

801
00:38:21,710 --> 00:38:24,020
who could attend could attend it would

802
00:38:24,020 --> 00:38:25,820
not be a special council meeting it

803
00:38:25,820 --> 00:38:28,040
would not be a forum for planning and

804
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,660
zoning I'm sorry for planning and zoning

805
00:38:29,660 --> 00:38:33,500
and council interact just be a set more

806
00:38:33,500 --> 00:38:35,870
sets of ears so that when the whole

807
00:38:35,870 --> 00:38:38,000
project comes before us especially those

808
00:38:38,000 --> 00:38:40,370
of us who are sort of on the second tier

809
00:38:40,370 --> 00:38:43,430
of the project I just think it would be

810
00:38:43,430 --> 00:38:44,810
very helpful again it would not be a

811
00:38:44,810 --> 00:38:47,240
question and answer they'd be more or

812
00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:48,950
less silent in the back but I think

813
00:38:48,950 --> 00:38:49,970
could really give you a better feel for

814
00:38:49,970 --> 00:38:52,240
what the commissioners

815
00:38:52,240 --> 00:38:54,710
they're their primary concern so this is

816
00:38:54,710 --> 00:39:05,080
going on as you know long time thank you councilman Bower

817
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:07,880
moving on to Cory Cory did not have a

818
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,170
meeting and I don't know if anybody from

819
00:39:09,170 --> 00:39:12,570
Cory is here

820
00:39:12,580 --> 00:39:16,280
water Commission's possible action turn

821
00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:20,300
it over to chairman abouthere sure Thank

822
00:39:20,300 --> 00:39:21,590
You mayor

823
00:39:21,590 --> 00:39:25,690
first time I'm on the agenda is

824
00:39:25,690 --> 00:39:28,340
filling the position of Water Commission

825
00:39:28,340 --> 00:39:30,860
in place to what a commission actually

826
00:39:30,860 --> 00:39:32,330
received forward and self nominations

827
00:39:32,330 --> 00:39:34,160
which were very happy that we received

828
00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:36,040
that many

829
00:39:36,040 --> 00:39:39,050
unfortunately two were as will make it

830
00:39:39,050 --> 00:39:40,850
challenging with for anyway one County

831
00:39:40,850 --> 00:39:41,990
that pulled his name right prior to the

832
00:39:41,990 --> 00:39:44,480
meeting for personal reasons same thing

833
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:45,710
with the second cannon was not able to

834
00:39:45,710 --> 00:39:48,110
attend the meeting we didn't interview

835
00:39:48,110 --> 00:39:50,480
two candidates both offered unique

836
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:52,340
experiences and did a great job in

837
00:39:52,340 --> 00:39:54,110
answering our questions at this point

838
00:39:54,110 --> 00:39:56,400
the Commission recommends that of dr.

839
00:39:56,400 --> 00:39:58,559
Richard Carmichael who stood in back

840
00:39:58,559 --> 00:40:02,160
here you stand up or you can see who he

841
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:02,839
is

842
00:40:02,839 --> 00:40:07,400
thank you

843
00:40:07,410 --> 00:40:09,660
we recommend pointing dr. Richard

844
00:40:09,660 --> 00:40:11,730
Carmichael to the Water Commission place

845
00:40:11,730 --> 00:40:16,890
to term expiring September 30th 2021 dr.

846
00:40:16,890 --> 00:40:18,569
Carmichael has a PhD in civil

847
00:40:18,569 --> 00:40:20,220
engineering in his restaurant and

848
00:40:20,220 --> 00:40:22,009
licensed professional engineer in Texas

849
00:40:22,009 --> 00:40:24,299
he has served in the US Air Force and

850
00:40:24,299 --> 00:40:27,150
has various work experience including

851
00:40:27,150 --> 00:40:29,069
work with the Texas Commission on

852
00:40:29,069 --> 00:40:33,960
Environmental Quality tcq so we're we're

853
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:36,269
also asking he's only lived in the city

854
00:40:36,269 --> 00:40:39,599
five months we're asking for a waiver to

855
00:40:39,599 --> 00:40:41,700
the residency requirement under Rose

856
00:40:41,700 --> 00:40:43,700
Orange 210

857
00:40:43,700 --> 00:40:46,920
so I like to counsel at consider maybe

858
00:40:46,920 --> 00:40:48,569
delaying his appointment of December to

859
00:40:48,569 --> 00:40:51,150
avoid having that waiver so I turn it

860
00:40:51,150 --> 00:40:57,160
over back to you counsel mr. mayor

861
00:40:57,170 --> 00:41:01,109
we are very fortunate to have dr.

862
00:41:01,109 --> 00:41:04,529
Carmichael I haven't applied and agreed

863
00:41:04,529 --> 00:41:10,579
to serve with the PE

864
00:41:10,579 --> 00:41:13,619
breadth and depth of experience what I'm

865
00:41:13,619 --> 00:41:17,579
gonna and and what you got was our chair

866
00:41:17,579 --> 00:41:19,259
bringing to you what the what the

867
00:41:19,259 --> 00:41:21,599
Commission recommended I'm gonna I'm

868
00:41:21,599 --> 00:41:24,299
gonna recommend to you to also consider

869
00:41:24,299 --> 00:41:31,799
that you approve it as of December 6th is when dr. Carmichael will

870
00:41:31,799 --> 00:41:35,970
have been here for six months and I you

871
00:41:35,970 --> 00:41:38,940
know when we when we consider variances

872
00:41:38,940 --> 00:41:41,400
and when we consider waivers and things

873
00:41:41,400 --> 00:41:43,170
like that we have to consider that

874
00:41:43,170 --> 00:41:45,960
they're supposed to be cases that it

875
00:41:45,960 --> 00:41:48,180
really needs to happen and in this case

876
00:41:48,180 --> 00:41:50,460
what will happen is if you improve it by

877
00:41:50,460 --> 00:41:54,349
for the December 6th he can attend the

878
00:41:54,349 --> 00:41:56,569
next month meeting

879
00:41:56,569 --> 00:41:59,250
the next meeting they have in the

880
00:41:59,250 --> 00:42:01,319
audience and start to see what's going

881
00:42:01,319 --> 00:42:04,230
on and be be get up to speed but that

882
00:42:04,230 --> 00:42:05,730
way we don't have to we don't have to

883
00:42:05,730 --> 00:42:07,210
engage in waivers and you can just

884
00:42:07,210 --> 00:42:09,280
approve them as of the six that's

885
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:10,839
something to consider it you're sure

886
00:42:10,839 --> 00:42:12,430
decisions your call but I just wanted to

887
00:42:12,430 --> 00:42:14,920
explain a little bit of what chair

888
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:16,839
Valdes was just talking about so that

889
00:42:16,839 --> 00:42:20,710
said looking for a motion to act on dr.

890
00:42:20,710 --> 00:42:23,859
Carmichael's or a commission place - I'm

891
00:42:23,859 --> 00:42:26,290
going to approve dr. Carmichael's the

892
00:42:26,290 --> 00:42:28,420
recommendation of the Commission to

893
00:42:28,420 --> 00:42:30,250
approve dr. Carmichael beginning

894
00:42:30,250 --> 00:42:32,500
December 6 and I welcome him and and

895
00:42:32,500 --> 00:42:33,970
hope that he will be able to attend the

896
00:42:33,970 --> 00:42:37,780
November meeting and then be sworn in or

897
00:42:37,780 --> 00:42:38,520
whatever

898
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:41,859
yeah thank you from place five I have a

899
00:42:41,859 --> 00:42:44,740
motion to approve as of December sixth

900
00:42:44,740 --> 00:42:47,800
for dr. Carmichael into place - can I

901
00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:50,940
get a second second

902
00:42:50,940 --> 00:42:53,920
you think

903
00:42:53,920 --> 00:42:58,549
[Laughter]

904
00:42:58,559 --> 00:43:00,849
all right so place one had his why

905
00:43:00,849 --> 00:43:03,069
Connells well say place one as the

906
00:43:03,069 --> 00:43:04,480
second any further discussion or

907
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:05,069
questions

908
00:43:05,069 --> 00:43:09,640
all in favor any opposed unanimous again

909
00:43:09,640 --> 00:43:12,309
dr. Carmichael thank you very much for

910
00:43:12,309 --> 00:43:14,829
getting involved and we look forward to

911
00:43:14,829 --> 00:43:16,450
you being on the Water Commission and

912
00:43:16,450 --> 00:43:20,650
bringing your experience to an expertise

913
00:43:20,650 --> 00:43:23,460
to the Commission Thanks welcome

914
00:43:23,460 --> 00:43:27,500
then I'll turn it back over you

915
00:43:27,510 --> 00:43:30,210
going to the next item I wanted to thank

916
00:43:30,210 --> 00:43:33,130
mr. Frank mr. beard and mr. Diaz for

917
00:43:33,130 --> 00:43:34,809
also showing interest in serving the

918
00:43:34,809 --> 00:43:36,220
Commission and encourage them to

919
00:43:36,220 --> 00:43:39,069
continue to support the city so maybe

920
00:43:39,069 --> 00:43:40,299
they can be available for some other

921
00:43:40,299 --> 00:43:42,819
Commission's as well okay moving on to

922
00:43:42,819 --> 00:43:44,740
the next item which is the water rate

923
00:43:44,740 --> 00:43:49,460
structure so

924
00:43:49,470 --> 00:43:52,299
okay as you know we've been talking

925
00:43:52,299 --> 00:43:55,540
about water rates for a while now it

926
00:43:55,540 --> 00:44:02,680
needs to happen we have a dire need to be sure we made

927
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,890
our requirements you have a packet and

928
00:44:05,890 --> 00:44:07,210
we'll cover some background this one

929
00:44:07,210 --> 00:44:09,040
information will cover background I'm

930
00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:10,390
going to cover the data we actually use

931
00:44:10,390 --> 00:44:13,650
assumptions made in the data

932
00:44:13,650 --> 00:44:15,880
the water rate options that the

933
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,400
Commission can look with and look at the

934
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,530
way we make our decisions based on

935
00:44:20,530 --> 00:44:23,230
alternate alternatives and in criteria

936
00:44:23,230 --> 00:44:25,900
around run precedence decisions and then

937
00:44:25,900 --> 00:44:26,680
I present the Water Commission

938
00:44:26,680 --> 00:44:30,170
recommendations as well

939
00:44:30,180 --> 00:44:33,880
so again the Water Commission had a

940
00:44:33,880 --> 00:44:36,550
subcommittee of two people our co-chair

941
00:44:36,550 --> 00:44:39,070
our Harshberger myself met with city

942
00:44:39,070 --> 00:44:41,050
staff to review and understand the water

943
00:44:41,050 --> 00:44:44,200
markets model something we really didn't

944
00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:45,400
do the first time and really go through

945
00:44:45,400 --> 00:44:48,040
look at what was in the in the day in

946
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:51,250
the format and so we spent a lot of time

947
00:44:51,250 --> 00:44:53,890
and we thank a city administrator Nancy

948
00:44:53,890 --> 00:44:55,660
came for Hearst Hearst work and her

949
00:44:55,660 --> 00:45:00,700
staff as well Kath Denis Jacob as and

950
00:45:00,700 --> 00:45:03,820
especially I have to Karen Ford she read

951
00:45:03,820 --> 00:45:04,960
it was very helpful in providing the

952
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:06,610
financial information couldn't Devens

953
00:45:06,610 --> 00:45:07,530
without her

954
00:45:07,530 --> 00:45:11,610
sorry Marissa we left you out

955
00:45:11,620 --> 00:45:14,140
I said in your packet you received the

956
00:45:14,140 --> 00:45:16,360
detail report that we have developed for

957
00:45:16,360 --> 00:45:18,150
you

958
00:45:18,150 --> 00:45:20,560
everything I'm gonna cover is more on

959
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:22,750
the data based on a question I received

960
00:45:22,750 --> 00:45:26,830
from Councilwoman sweat about really

961
00:45:26,830 --> 00:45:28,060
where the data came from so that's why I

962
00:45:28,060 --> 00:45:29,470
changed the presentation here to really

963
00:45:29,470 --> 00:45:31,450
everything's didn't your report I'm just

964
00:45:31,450 --> 00:45:34,390
gonna show in a different format okay so

965
00:45:34,390 --> 00:45:36,190
again so again this district this

966
00:45:36,190 --> 00:45:37,420
presentation has just come reading the

967
00:45:37,420 --> 00:45:39,510
data

968
00:45:39,510 --> 00:45:43,090
here's the inputs that look going to the

969
00:45:43,090 --> 00:45:46,780
model our monthly consumption water

970
00:45:46,780 --> 00:45:49,830
consumption for the fiscal year 2019

971
00:45:49,830 --> 00:45:52,870
look at the number of accounts what the

972
00:45:52,870 --> 00:45:55,520
percent growth

973
00:45:55,530 --> 00:45:59,620
assumptions look at our depth or water

974
00:45:59,620 --> 00:46:02,530
fund expenses what we need to have in

975
00:46:02,530 --> 00:46:07,010
our reserves and then the rate structure

976
00:46:07,020 --> 00:46:10,510
okay so here this is a copy from

977
00:46:10,510 --> 00:46:14,140
directly from the the sheet and I want

978
00:46:14,140 --> 00:46:17,470
to show in the first column fiscal year

979
00:46:17,470 --> 00:46:21,250
2018 these are the numbers for inside

980
00:46:21,250 --> 00:46:24,340
city limits and else I see limits so

981
00:46:24,340 --> 00:46:26,830
it's the middle column that water

982
00:46:26,830 --> 00:46:28,650
markets used

983
00:46:28,650 --> 00:46:32,050
the the column on the right is fiscal

984
00:46:32,050 --> 00:46:35,640
year 2019 this new data that we obtained

985
00:46:35,640 --> 00:46:38,210
knows that the consumption went down

986
00:46:38,210 --> 00:46:41,780
this is per month so in

987
00:46:41,780 --> 00:46:43,920
inside the city limits when 2 million

988
00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:44,900
gallons

989
00:46:44,900 --> 00:46:49,020
per month so so we had less consumption

990
00:46:49,020 --> 00:46:51,240
this past year 28 million gallons of the

991
00:46:51,240 --> 00:46:53,880
whole year versus 2018 so again that's

992
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,230
data but that affects the calculations

993
00:46:57,230 --> 00:47:00,170
number of accounts

994
00:47:00,170 --> 00:47:03,080
we've had

995
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:06,890
23 meters inside the city were added in

996
00:47:06,890 --> 00:47:11,370
2019 we went down 1 meter outside the

997
00:47:11,370 --> 00:47:15,360
city limits in in this last year water

998
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:19,310
markets use a 2% growth number

999
00:47:19,310 --> 00:47:22,740
but so we were feel like the model was

1000
00:47:22,740 --> 00:47:25,500
over predicting the growth since we're

1001
00:47:25,500 --> 00:47:27,570
almost have built out conditions we only

1002
00:47:27,570 --> 00:47:30,900
have the woods that has current you know

1003
00:47:30,900 --> 00:47:32,550
permits to build houses at this point

1004
00:47:32,550 --> 00:47:35,040
after that it's gonna slow down so we

1005
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:36,810
changed that growth rate to half a

1006
00:47:36,810 --> 00:47:40,260
percent so growth rate outside we went

1007
00:47:40,260 --> 00:47:42,290
from 2 percent down to 0 again

1008
00:47:42,290 --> 00:47:45,630
we don't see much growth going out past

1009
00:47:45,630 --> 00:47:46,490
that

1010
00:47:46,490 --> 00:47:48,780
and then we have we don't know the

1011
00:47:48,780 --> 00:47:51,750
non-residential growth on 22 V 2 is

1012
00:47:51,750 --> 00:47:53,490
uncertain at this time so we took we

1013
00:47:53,490 --> 00:47:55,380
didn't take that into a factor for this

1014
00:47:55,380 --> 00:47:57,590
coming year

1015
00:47:57,590 --> 00:48:00,240
as far as our debt

1016
00:48:00,240 --> 00:48:02,850
so Karen provided this information so

1017
00:48:02,850 --> 00:48:05,720
this is the amount of funds that we owe

1018
00:48:05,720 --> 00:48:08,910
per year the middle column is what

1019
00:48:08,910 --> 00:48:11,790
actually we as current depth it's around

1020
00:48:11,790 --> 00:48:16,280
600,000 plus per year

1021
00:48:16,280 --> 00:48:19,160
we have projects that been approved for

1022
00:48:19,160 --> 00:48:22,860
CIP but have not been funded yet so we

1023
00:48:22,860 --> 00:48:25,350
don't include anything for 2020 we did

1024
00:48:25,350 --> 00:48:29,910
add some funds looking ahead and we just

1025
00:48:29,910 --> 00:48:33,900
a basic 30-year equally you know a

1026
00:48:33,900 --> 00:48:36,390
memorization table we came added two

1027
00:48:36,390 --> 00:48:37,620
hundred thirty thousand dollars per year

1028
00:48:37,620 --> 00:48:41,030
for debt to look ahead after 2021

1029
00:48:41,030 --> 00:48:43,260
but for this coming year we didn't we

1030
00:48:43,260 --> 00:48:45,140
don't have any additional debt

1031
00:48:45,140 --> 00:48:47,029
because we don't have anything funded at

1032
00:48:47,029 --> 00:48:50,009
this time

1033
00:48:50,019 --> 00:48:52,369
so this has come directly from our

1034
00:48:52,369 --> 00:48:56,240
budget the the water fund expenses from

1035
00:48:56,240 --> 00:48:58,640
approved in our budget these are the 11

1036
00:48:58,640 --> 00:49:01,039
categories we have you'll have a fiscal

1037
00:49:01,039 --> 00:49:03,740
year 2020 budget those numbers that

1038
00:49:03,740 --> 00:49:07,970
total is 1 million 76 thousand we

1039
00:49:07,970 --> 00:49:10,849
estimate our instant growth is estimated

1040
00:49:10,849 --> 00:49:12,670
to 4 2021

1041
00:49:12,670 --> 00:49:14,869
which is almost three point two seven

1042
00:49:14,869 --> 00:49:17,059
percent increase for that so we use

1043
00:49:17,059 --> 00:49:19,640
those numbers to look at the next two

1044
00:49:19,640 --> 00:49:22,660
years based on that

1045
00:49:22,660 --> 00:49:25,930
the model actually requires us to enter

1046
00:49:25,930 --> 00:49:29,480
2019 data so it throws us off so we

1047
00:49:29,480 --> 00:49:31,910
actually had to make the model work so

1048
00:49:31,910 --> 00:49:35,630
that the 2020 2020 budget numbers and

1049
00:49:35,630 --> 00:49:37,460
2021 come out the way we won them here

1050
00:49:37,460 --> 00:49:40,960
and they did once we saw where they went

1051
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:45,140
as far as the reserve our reserve fund

1052
00:49:45,140 --> 00:49:48,619
balance was that just to launder 1.5

1053
00:49:48,619 --> 00:49:52,069
million as of August 31st this year now

1054
00:49:52,069 --> 00:49:53,690
reserve funds are used to manage

1055
00:49:53,690 --> 00:49:57,529
fluctuations in revenue you know to

1056
00:49:57,529 --> 00:49:59,299
sustain the water fund during low cash

1057
00:49:59,299 --> 00:50:01,339
flow periods and for any unforeseen

1058
00:50:01,339 --> 00:50:04,579
expenses so the first eight or nine

1059
00:50:04,579 --> 00:50:06,440
months of the fiscal year we're actually

1060
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:08,990
using borrowing money from that fund to

1061
00:50:08,990 --> 00:50:11,930
pay our expenses you know it's later in

1062
00:50:11,930 --> 00:50:13,430
the year that we actually have a peak

1063
00:50:13,430 --> 00:50:15,950
income to balance out the year so we

1064
00:50:15,950 --> 00:50:17,779
were we're borrowing from that money

1065
00:50:17,779 --> 00:50:19,359
will you eat them away of what to use

1066
00:50:19,359 --> 00:50:23,329
the reserve fund covers a 12 month depth

1067
00:50:23,329 --> 00:50:25,819
so be sure we can pay that in the next

1068
00:50:25,819 --> 00:50:27,710
12 months and we're only using nine

1069
00:50:27,710 --> 00:50:29,230
months operating expenses at this time

1070
00:50:29,230 --> 00:50:35,569
we set our minimum reserve in the in the spreadsheet at 1.5 million for

1071
00:50:35,569 --> 00:50:39,079
2020 and we have a goal to bring that

1072
00:50:39,079 --> 00:50:40,779
operating expense up to 12 months

1073
00:50:40,779 --> 00:50:43,759
increase the reserve fund up to 2

1074
00:50:43,759 --> 00:50:46,460
million so how we did that we used over

1075
00:50:46,460 --> 00:50:49,160
a 10-year period increased at 25,000 per

1076
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:51,079
year over a 10-year period in the

1077
00:50:51,079 --> 00:50:53,640
calculations

1078
00:50:53,650 --> 00:50:57,710
okay so like well

1079
00:50:57,710 --> 00:51:00,039
thrown button

1080
00:51:00,039 --> 00:51:03,619
this is all the data that we put in any

1081
00:51:03,619 --> 00:51:05,869
questions at this point and continue you

1082
00:51:05,869 --> 00:51:11,430
know

1083
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:13,430
okay like I said everything's in the

1084
00:51:13,430 --> 00:51:14,750
packet you had already this is just in a

1085
00:51:14,750 --> 00:51:16,339
different format to show you the actual

1086
00:51:16,339 --> 00:51:17,599
numbers that thought it'd be easier to

1087
00:51:17,599 --> 00:51:19,119
explain

1088
00:51:19,119 --> 00:51:22,250
so the the Commission looked at four

1089
00:51:22,250 --> 00:51:24,200
options and we call them the first one

1090
00:51:24,200 --> 00:51:25,760
in the City Council on out of the way we

1091
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,619
were charged at the September 10th

1092
00:51:27,619 --> 00:51:29,960
meeting to look at and I'll cover more

1093
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:32,690
detail what that meant option two was a

1094
00:51:32,690 --> 00:51:35,000
uniform percent increase percent you

1095
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,480
know across all tiers

1096
00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:40,630
number three was at a commercial rates

1097
00:51:40,630 --> 00:51:43,190
we have potential commercial growth come

1098
00:51:43,190 --> 00:51:46,039
both coming in 20 in off twenty to fifty

1099
00:51:46,039 --> 00:51:49,520
two per our master land plan use so

1100
00:51:49,520 --> 00:51:51,200
that's a little bit longer term to look

1101
00:51:51,200 --> 00:51:53,740
out there and option four was doing

1102
00:51:53,740 --> 00:51:55,849
another option which was just

1103
00:51:55,849 --> 00:51:58,400
implementing what water markets proposal

1104
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:00,200
year one in year two recommendations and

1105
00:52:00,200 --> 00:52:01,940
I'll show you explain a little more

1106
00:52:01,940 --> 00:52:03,849
about those

1107
00:52:03,849 --> 00:52:06,799
we used them we have to find a way to

1108
00:52:06,799 --> 00:52:10,180
score how each one of these came out and

1109
00:52:10,180 --> 00:52:13,430
so we looked at six different criteria

1110
00:52:13,430 --> 00:52:16,910
and rated at one to five looked at the

1111
00:52:16,910 --> 00:52:20,170
impact on low volume users

1112
00:52:20,170 --> 00:52:22,609
delay the increase the middle volume

1113
00:52:22,609 --> 00:52:23,799
users

1114
00:52:23,799 --> 00:52:27,170
minimize the financial risk to the water

1115
00:52:27,170 --> 00:52:28,000
company

1116
00:52:28,000 --> 00:52:30,130
revenue stability

1117
00:52:30,130 --> 00:52:33,710
look at equality you know share increase

1118
00:52:33,710 --> 00:52:38,559
across all all the residents all users

1119
00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:40,789
how does it have with respect to

1120
00:52:40,789 --> 00:52:44,779
conservation incentives and then an

1121
00:52:44,779 --> 00:52:47,029
economic efficiency as the Water

1122
00:52:47,029 --> 00:52:48,380
Commission was going through the

1123
00:52:48,380 --> 00:52:51,130
alternatives in our meeting

1124
00:52:51,130 --> 00:52:53,720
the commissioners really looked at

1125
00:52:53,720 --> 00:52:55,849
financial risk and the inequality as

1126
00:52:55,849 --> 00:52:57,400
needing

1127
00:52:57,400 --> 00:52:59,569
to look a little bit closer so we added

1128
00:52:59,569 --> 00:53:01,760
we actually multiply that value by two

1129
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:04,970
so we have a base score and then we have

1130
00:53:04,970 --> 00:53:08,710
a weighted score for each one

1131
00:53:08,710 --> 00:53:12,079
okay so the wonderful city council

1132
00:53:12,079 --> 00:53:15,170
option is retaining the $2 increase on

1133
00:53:15,170 --> 00:53:17,380
the base rate

1134
00:53:17,380 --> 00:53:20,359
leave so look at the water market your

1135
00:53:20,359 --> 00:53:22,390
won in year two rates we would leave

1136
00:53:22,390 --> 00:53:27,499
your tears 1 2 3 & 8 and above unchanged

1137
00:53:27,499 --> 00:53:30,829
from water markets we would increase

1138
00:53:30,829 --> 00:53:33,950
tears 4 through 7 but at a lower

1139
00:53:33,950 --> 00:53:36,950
graduated rate and then we looked at

1140
00:53:36,950 --> 00:53:39,049
looking at 3 percent increase from 22

1141
00:53:39,049 --> 00:53:43,150
from F fiscal year 2022 and Beyond

1142
00:53:43,150 --> 00:53:45,549
okay

1143
00:53:45,549 --> 00:53:47,720
and here's the way we scored it so in

1144
00:53:47,720 --> 00:53:49,460
your packet you have the detailed charts

1145
00:53:49,460 --> 00:53:51,170
between here and there you know you see

1146
00:53:51,170 --> 00:53:52,339
the detailed charts what that actual

1147
00:53:52,339 --> 00:53:53,749
numbers was I just want to get to the

1148
00:53:53,749 --> 00:53:56,509
show the options here and and this how

1149
00:53:56,509 --> 00:53:58,779
we scored it

1150
00:53:58,779 --> 00:54:01,900
and say wait you know this has

1151
00:54:01,900 --> 00:54:05,480
read a 5-4 impact on the low volume

1152
00:54:05,480 --> 00:54:09,769
users a 5 for again low impact of tears

1153
00:54:09,769 --> 00:54:10,930
4 through 7

1154
00:54:10,930 --> 00:54:14,150
the financial risk it did have a greater

1155
00:54:14,150 --> 00:54:16,279
risk so we put a three at this one

1156
00:54:16,279 --> 00:54:18,680
because it is demand since it's

1157
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,049
insensitive

1158
00:54:20,049 --> 00:54:24,120
for

1159
00:54:24,130 --> 00:54:26,390
conservation incentive we put as a four

1160
00:54:26,390 --> 00:54:28,420
just because it does decrease

1161
00:54:28,420 --> 00:54:30,920
it decreases the mid volume users

1162
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,259
lowered but that provides the incentive

1163
00:54:33,259 --> 00:54:36,559
for the higher rate users and then the

1164
00:54:36,559 --> 00:54:38,269
economic efficiency it's based on the

1165
00:54:38,269 --> 00:54:40,029
lower tiers

1166
00:54:40,029 --> 00:54:44,420
pay a a lower amount of the of the peak

1167
00:54:44,420 --> 00:54:48,019
cost so a three there so again so we had

1168
00:54:48,019 --> 00:54:50,269
the original score of 21 the latest

1169
00:54:50,269 --> 00:54:53,779
score 25 as we doubled the the financial

1170
00:54:53,779 --> 00:54:57,479
risk inequality there

1171
00:54:57,489 --> 00:54:59,380
moving on to

1172
00:54:59,380 --> 00:55:02,980
the option number two this is a uniform

1173
00:55:02,980 --> 00:55:07,089
st. percent increase across all tiers

1174
00:55:07,089 --> 00:55:11,569
this one did so for the year 2020 we

1175
00:55:11,569 --> 00:55:13,759
left the 25 for the base rate it were

1176
00:55:13,759 --> 00:55:17,119
required to go to 26 in 2021 again

1177
00:55:17,119 --> 00:55:19,009
justice looking ahead estimating it's

1178
00:55:19,009 --> 00:55:21,069
just an estimate

1179
00:55:21,069 --> 00:55:23,509
our calculation showed that we needed a

1180
00:55:23,509 --> 00:55:26,680
14th sent across the board for 2020 and

1181
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:31,400
look possibly based on what we estimate

1182
00:55:31,400 --> 00:55:33,680
for the budget for 2021 that we need to

1183
00:55:33,680 --> 00:55:39,150
increase that in those 16 percent 2021

1184
00:55:39,160 --> 00:55:43,970
okay and here's a skort again this one

1185
00:55:43,970 --> 00:55:45,250
has on

1186
00:55:45,250 --> 00:55:48,230
impact of low volume users rate is a 1

1187
00:55:48,230 --> 00:55:50,410
if it does impact

1188
00:55:50,410 --> 00:55:53,410
the lower tier users

1189
00:55:53,410 --> 00:55:55,910
again it does impact the middle tier

1190
00:55:55,910 --> 00:55:58,869
users a little bit more so it's a 3

1191
00:55:58,869 --> 00:56:02,060
it's a 5 for financial risks in that

1192
00:56:02,060 --> 00:56:04,220
it's not demand since that the like the

1193
00:56:04,220 --> 00:56:06,530
rest of them are so I got a score of 10

1194
00:56:06,530 --> 00:56:09,650
when you weighted it for equality we

1195
00:56:09,650 --> 00:56:14,260
treated by the same so again a 5

1196
00:56:14,260 --> 00:56:16,790
it currently maintains the same instance

1197
00:56:16,790 --> 00:56:19,640
we have now so so 3 first conservation

1198
00:56:19,640 --> 00:56:24,260
incentives sensitivity I mean and a 2

1199
00:56:24,260 --> 00:56:27,350
for economic efficiency low base and

1200
00:56:27,350 --> 00:56:29,780
lower tiers pay the and they increase

1201
00:56:29,780 --> 00:56:31,630
their share peak loads

1202
00:56:31,630 --> 00:56:35,960
so the base score is 19 the weighted

1203
00:56:35,960 --> 00:56:39,300
score is 29

1204
00:56:39,310 --> 00:56:41,359
option 3 was to look we looked at

1205
00:56:41,359 --> 00:56:44,340
commercial rates

1206
00:56:44,350 --> 00:56:47,859
to be like that and all we did was take

1207
00:56:47,859 --> 00:56:49,420
non-residential

1208
00:56:49,420 --> 00:56:52,130
non-government users and we moved them

1209
00:56:52,130 --> 00:56:54,260
over a simple way moving over to the

1210
00:56:54,260 --> 00:56:57,170
outside see limit rates

1211
00:56:57,170 --> 00:56:59,170
[Applause]

1212
00:56:59,170 --> 00:57:02,180
you know in in you can actually get away

1213
00:57:02,180 --> 00:57:04,270
with just reducing the

1214
00:57:04,270 --> 00:57:07,250
Residential's to 9 percent in 2020 the

1215
00:57:07,250 --> 00:57:09,080
problem is we don't we don't have enough

1216
00:57:09,080 --> 00:57:11,000
data at this point to move on we don't

1217
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,850
know what it's going to be so at this

1218
00:57:13,850 --> 00:57:14,720
point the Water Commission is proposing

1219
00:57:14,720 --> 00:57:17,060
we delay this option as we get more

1220
00:57:17,060 --> 00:57:19,130
information as we forgive it'll predict

1221
00:57:19,130 --> 00:57:22,160
a study comparing how other cities treat

1222
00:57:22,160 --> 00:57:24,109
commercial rates so we're not ready to

1223
00:57:24,109 --> 00:57:25,250
move on to this one but I want to show

1224
00:57:25,250 --> 00:57:26,690
that this is an option that we want to

1225
00:57:26,690 --> 00:57:29,290
consider later on

1226
00:57:29,290 --> 00:57:31,340
and here's a score here I'm not gonna go

1227
00:57:31,340 --> 00:57:33,080
through the details of it but since we

1228
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:36,880
were doing that one

1229
00:57:36,890 --> 00:57:38,749
the stick with the water markets your

1230
00:57:38,749 --> 00:57:41,089
one in year two

1231
00:57:41,089 --> 00:57:43,279
so everything's the same the third

1232
00:57:43,279 --> 00:57:44,480
burger got someone I want to point out

1233
00:57:44,480 --> 00:57:47,509
it is this is not revenue neutral in

1234
00:57:47,509 --> 00:57:50,359
that once we change all the data to

1235
00:57:50,359 --> 00:57:52,180
update to

1236
00:57:52,180 --> 00:57:54,460
2019

1237
00:57:54,460 --> 00:57:57,049
usage and although in the budget for

1238
00:57:57,049 --> 00:57:58,059
next year

1239
00:57:58,059 --> 00:58:00,859
we actually exceed our expenses by

1240
00:58:00,859 --> 00:58:02,960
64,000 we actually have a net gain of

1241
00:58:02,960 --> 00:58:05,349
64,000 so it's now revenue

1242
00:58:05,349 --> 00:58:08,539
neutral to make the revenue neutral

1243
00:58:08,539 --> 00:58:11,299
which is to go back to option one okay

1244
00:58:11,299 --> 00:58:12,950
so I just want to show you how what you

1245
00:58:12,950 --> 00:58:14,509
have to do this one what we have now to

1246
00:58:14,509 --> 00:58:15,849
make it

1247
00:58:15,849 --> 00:58:21,239
revenue neutral

1248
00:58:21,249 --> 00:58:26,779
okay so here the scores a 19-4 now wait

1249
00:58:26,779 --> 00:58:29,599
at 22 for weighted and here has a

1250
00:58:29,599 --> 00:58:31,210
summary

1251
00:58:31,210 --> 00:58:34,339
up to one retire we don't weigh it

1252
00:58:34,339 --> 00:58:36,880
option two which

1253
00:58:36,880 --> 00:58:40,039
rates comes out higher when you do do

1254
00:58:40,039 --> 00:58:42,289
the way to score ratio we feel the

1255
00:58:42,289 --> 00:58:43,849
Commission felt like options one and two

1256
00:58:43,849 --> 00:58:45,859
or the most viable solutions at this

1257
00:58:45,859 --> 00:58:48,799
point like I said we want option three

1258
00:58:48,799 --> 00:58:50,779
the commercial rates is something that

1259
00:58:50,779 --> 00:58:52,430
we need to consider was gonna take some

1260
00:58:52,430 --> 00:58:54,519
more work for more study

1261
00:58:54,519 --> 00:58:57,670
and option four is not

1262
00:58:57,670 --> 00:58:59,930
maybe neutral so that was rejected

1263
00:58:59,930 --> 00:59:02,539
alternative the following charts is only

1264
00:59:02,539 --> 00:59:03,920
going to look at options one and two to

1265
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:06,079
give you more a comparison to help you

1266
00:59:06,079 --> 00:59:08,869
decide we'll give you our recommendation

1267
00:59:08,869 --> 00:59:10,999
but again it's sure you can pick either

1268
00:59:10,999 --> 00:59:13,170
one

1269
00:59:13,180 --> 00:59:15,950
the first chart here just shows the

1270
00:59:15,950 --> 00:59:18,970
rates for

1271
00:59:18,970 --> 00:59:21,529
that's all for current option one and

1272
00:59:21,529 --> 00:59:23,630
option two and this just gives you a

1273
00:59:23,630 --> 00:59:25,430
percent increase in there in the red

1274
00:59:25,430 --> 00:59:28,349
column

1275
00:59:28,359 --> 00:59:31,489
okay just study those again the option

1276
00:59:31,489 --> 00:59:33,079
two is the straight 14 percent across

1277
00:59:33,079 --> 00:59:35,079
each tier

1278
00:59:35,079 --> 00:59:38,390
option one it's zero percent increase

1279
00:59:38,390 --> 00:59:40,160
for the first three tiers and he goes up

1280
00:59:40,160 --> 00:59:42,019
gradually but you're a ninety seven

1281
00:59:42,019 --> 00:59:42,920
percent increase

1282
00:59:42,920 --> 00:59:44,440
when you go to

1283
00:59:44,440 --> 00:59:50,969
above ninety five thousand gallons

1284
00:59:50,979 --> 00:59:55,309
this actually would be the bill so what

1285
00:59:55,309 --> 00:59:58,400
does actually consumer you see on his

1286
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,160
monthly bills so get the current every

1287
01:00:01,160 --> 01:00:04,630
5,000 gallons got the option one and

1288
01:00:04,630 --> 01:00:08,089
every 5,000 option two later on I'll

1289
01:00:08,089 --> 01:00:11,140
show you what the Delta is between each

1290
01:00:11,140 --> 01:00:13,609
between the difference are so it's in

1291
01:00:13,609 --> 01:00:15,410
the last slide she'll put it right next

1292
01:00:15,410 --> 01:00:17,709
but I wanted to do a graph

1293
01:00:17,709 --> 01:00:22,009
here to show how the to go up with time

1294
01:00:22,009 --> 01:00:26,719
so you get the on the X x axis is the

1295
01:00:26,719 --> 01:00:28,209
number of gallons

1296
01:00:28,209 --> 01:00:32,359
actual consumed versus the dollars that

1297
01:00:32,359 --> 01:00:35,229
actually build

1298
01:00:35,229 --> 01:00:39,130
if you notice that 7,000 gallons roughly

1299
01:00:39,130 --> 01:00:43,069
below that option one is below option

1300
01:00:43,069 --> 01:00:44,900
two so I want to highlight that little

1301
01:00:44,900 --> 01:00:46,430
bit more you expand that to show you a

1302
01:00:46,430 --> 01:00:48,410
little bit different just to visually

1303
01:00:48,410 --> 01:00:51,709
show you how that is even the option two

1304
01:00:51,709 --> 01:00:53,509
is a little bit higher it's significant

1305
01:00:53,509 --> 01:00:54,849
not significant

1306
01:00:54,849 --> 01:00:57,619
what we stick to the same point and then

1307
01:00:57,619 --> 01:01:00,430
the last chart here is what

1308
01:01:00,430 --> 01:01:03,140
again in the red I add I put in there

1309
01:01:03,140 --> 01:01:05,930
what they increase from current is and

1310
01:01:05,930 --> 01:01:07,999
then the difference between option one

1311
01:01:07,999 --> 01:01:11,609
and two is the last column

1312
01:01:11,619 --> 01:01:15,460
I'm not going with that pretty quick

1313
01:01:15,460 --> 01:01:18,870
[Applause]

1314
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:23,610
so

1315
01:01:23,620 --> 01:01:26,580
a lot of commission voted on this and

1316
01:01:26,580 --> 01:01:28,810
Water Commission recommends option to

1317
01:01:28,810 --> 01:01:31,420
just a straight 14% increase this year

1318
01:01:31,420 --> 01:01:33,310
but also recommends a second

1319
01:01:33,310 --> 01:01:34,810
recommendation is to adopt an annual

1320
01:01:34,810 --> 01:01:36,940
review process now that we have the

1321
01:01:36,940 --> 01:01:40,210
model we know how to use it we can take

1322
01:01:40,210 --> 01:01:42,880
the usage data for this next year we'll

1323
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:44,920
take the budget for 2020 and relook at

1324
01:01:44,920 --> 01:01:46,630
all the numbers again it's not like

1325
01:01:46,630 --> 01:01:49,180
we're gonna raise the rates X numbers

1326
01:01:49,180 --> 01:01:50,410
every year we're gonna look at it every

1327
01:01:50,410 --> 01:01:52,570
years with our proposal that way we stay

1328
01:01:52,570 --> 01:01:53,740
on top of it we don't want to wait five

1329
01:01:53,740 --> 01:01:56,040
years like you know was done passed

1330
01:01:56,040 --> 01:01:57,970
so at this point I guess I can General

1331
01:01:57,970 --> 01:01:58,930
referring questions

1332
01:01:58,930 --> 01:02:01,620
[Music]

1333
01:02:01,620 --> 01:02:05,110
thank you thank you very much like to

1334
01:02:05,110 --> 01:02:06,730
turn it over to Council for any

1335
01:02:06,730 --> 01:02:10,030
questions and again the option to is

1336
01:02:10,030 --> 01:02:12,910
what they're recommending 14% across now

1337
01:02:12,910 --> 01:02:14,500
I want to tell you that there's two

1338
01:02:14,500 --> 01:02:16,650
recommendations and they're separate

1339
01:02:16,650 --> 01:02:19,150
there's 70 I motion separate votes you

1340
01:02:19,150 --> 01:02:21,490
see on your agenda that's we split them

1341
01:02:21,490 --> 01:02:23,430
out so just we'll talk about

1342
01:02:23,430 --> 01:02:25,840
recommendation number one first which is

1343
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:28,480
what you as a council believe the rates

1344
01:02:28,480 --> 01:02:30,790
should be based on the data I'll also

1345
01:02:30,790 --> 01:02:32,670
tell you that

1346
01:02:32,670 --> 01:02:35,320
consider that the comment of now we have

1347
01:02:35,320 --> 01:02:37,380
the model we had the model

1348
01:02:37,380 --> 01:02:40,890
when we when we

1349
01:02:40,890 --> 01:02:42,940
engaged with water markets we had the

1350
01:02:42,940 --> 01:02:45,160
model but we weren't very smart about

1351
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,080
how to use it and now we get to people

1352
01:02:47,080 --> 01:02:49,030
sitting there that are very smart about

1353
01:02:49,030 --> 01:02:51,010
how to use it and that's what you see

1354
01:02:51,010 --> 01:02:53,410
the product here so water markets you

1355
01:02:53,410 --> 01:02:55,120
know it's it's whatever data they have

1356
01:02:55,120 --> 01:02:57,640
whatever data we gave them but a year

1357
01:02:57,640 --> 01:03:00,870
later we have more data and we have so

1358
01:03:00,870 --> 01:03:03,400
the the Water Commission and

1359
01:03:03,400 --> 01:03:05,980
particularly this subcommittee had more

1360
01:03:05,980 --> 01:03:09,340
fidelity and more data to be able to to

1361
01:03:09,340 --> 01:03:12,040
make this an out to do this analysis so

1362
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:15,600
that said start over on

1363
01:03:15,600 --> 01:03:17,580
the left side

1364
01:03:17,580 --> 01:03:20,920
comments and questions to the Water

1365
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,380
Commission on their recommendations and

1366
01:03:23,380 --> 01:03:25,920
their analyses

1367
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:27,790
Jesse I think you're in your element

1368
01:03:27,790 --> 01:03:33,180
this is wonderful presentation

1369
01:03:33,190 --> 01:03:34,869
if I may

1370
01:03:34,869 --> 01:03:35,460
I

1371
01:03:35,460 --> 01:03:37,720
understand option two the recommendation

1372
01:03:37,720 --> 01:03:40,480
and so on did you discuss I know in the

1373
01:03:40,480 --> 01:03:43,329
past we've discussed essentially despite

1374
01:03:43,329 --> 01:03:44,950
what's been said by citizens tonight in

1375
01:03:44,950 --> 01:03:47,559
previous meetings that you know we all

1376
01:03:47,559 --> 01:03:49,030
want to hope that we know how to

1377
01:03:49,030 --> 01:03:51,460
conserve and we all tempt a concern but

1378
01:03:51,460 --> 01:03:52,750
there are people who don't choose to

1379
01:03:52,750 --> 01:03:56,950
conserve and did you consider that 14

1380
01:03:56,950 --> 01:03:58,829
percent across the board

1381
01:03:58,829 --> 01:04:02,020
you know is I mean the people that just

1382
01:04:02,020 --> 01:04:03,430
say I don't care and I'm gonna use

1383
01:04:03,430 --> 01:04:05,559
200,000 gallons a month I mean should

1384
01:04:05,559 --> 01:04:07,240
they be essentially paying they're gonna

1385
01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:08,920
pay more money but should they be paying

1386
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:11,190
at the same rate

1387
01:04:11,190 --> 01:04:13,960
well I mean we're adding the 14 percent

1388
01:04:13,960 --> 01:04:15,760
but that 14 percent is a higher dollar

1389
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:17,079
value like I showed you on the other

1390
01:04:17,079 --> 01:04:20,190
previous one here you know

1391
01:04:20,190 --> 01:04:23,010
even the 14 percent at

1392
01:04:23,010 --> 01:04:26,670
100,000 gallons is additional $200

1393
01:04:26,670 --> 01:04:29,460
you know per the monthly bill it's not

1394
01:04:29,460 --> 01:04:32,200
the 500 or 600 that they would have been

1395
01:04:32,200 --> 01:04:33,940
in the other one or whether it have been

1396
01:04:33,940 --> 01:04:36,660
340 for the other way

1397
01:04:36,660 --> 01:04:40,329
so we are still name being increase now

1398
01:04:40,329 --> 01:04:42,849
we the reaction that we felt that

1399
01:04:42,849 --> 01:04:44,170
happened in September was people

1400
01:04:44,170 --> 01:04:46,089
starting to come back cutting back on

1401
01:04:46,089 --> 01:04:48,280
their usage we really saw in to 2019

1402
01:04:48,280 --> 01:04:50,470
they cut back and fing they're going to

1403
01:04:50,470 --> 01:04:52,240
create will the Commission is planning

1404
01:04:52,240 --> 01:04:55,200
on doing some discussion about

1405
01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:57,940
conservation classes or educational

1406
01:04:57,940 --> 01:04:59,770
sessions that will plan on doing for

1407
01:04:59,770 --> 01:05:01,960
that to help them out as well so it

1408
01:05:01,960 --> 01:05:03,880
could have been me impact on this in the

1409
01:05:03,880 --> 01:05:07,849
future as far as but they

1410
01:05:07,859 --> 01:05:34,039
spend the money

1411
01:05:34,049 --> 01:05:39,710
to go down but yeah

1412
01:05:39,720 --> 01:05:42,880
we're gonna stand the question can you

1413
01:05:42,880 --> 01:05:44,000
rephrase I'm not sure I understood

1414
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,790
question in the past and maybe I missed

1415
01:05:46,790 --> 01:05:48,050
something here in the past week you know

1416
01:05:48,050 --> 01:05:49,610
if you went into drought stage exit was

1417
01:05:49,610 --> 01:05:51,410
a surcharge on top when you used over X

1418
01:05:51,410 --> 01:05:53,180
amount of gallons of water was that

1419
01:05:53,180 --> 01:05:55,250
discussed oh no at all here we're just

1420
01:05:55,250 --> 01:05:57,020
gonna we don't we're not changing that

1421
01:05:57,020 --> 01:05:59,210
okay that's all okay we did that's a

1422
01:05:59,210 --> 01:06:00,800
different ordinance I believe okay so

1423
01:06:00,800 --> 01:06:02,870
we're not looking at that one Jim but at

1424
01:06:02,870 --> 01:06:05,270
first blush blush I went 14% seems like

1425
01:06:05,270 --> 01:06:06,860
kind of high we're sort of punishing the

1426
01:06:06,860 --> 01:06:08,750
low end users and then my brain went you

1427
01:06:08,750 --> 01:06:10,670
know we haven't had a rate increase in

1428
01:06:10,670 --> 01:06:13,610
how many years five years okay what's

1429
01:06:13,610 --> 01:06:15,290
been the inflation rate over those five

1430
01:06:15,290 --> 01:06:17,960
years a couple of percent per year if

1431
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:19,670
you looked at a 3% over year over year

1432
01:06:19,670 --> 01:06:23,150
we'd be at 16% - sure so then it makes

1433
01:06:23,150 --> 01:06:24,260
sense if you look at it from that

1434
01:06:24,260 --> 01:06:26,390
perspective it my first blush was 14%

1435
01:06:26,390 --> 01:06:29,480
that's too much well except we haven't

1436
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:30,740
changed it for five years as which is

1437
01:06:30,740 --> 01:06:33,710
why we risk running into a revenue hole

1438
01:06:33,710 --> 01:06:37,600
and if you don't increase it so okay I

1439
01:06:37,600 --> 01:06:42,150
like it

1440
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:45,380
mr. Valdez very well explained I don't

1441
01:06:45,380 --> 01:06:46,490
know where you got all these graphics

1442
01:06:46,490 --> 01:06:47,990
and all that but it there's a lot of

1443
01:06:47,990 --> 01:06:50,650
work to get that together

1444
01:06:50,650 --> 01:06:54,260
what is the fear or the concern y'all is

1445
01:06:54,260 --> 01:06:56,120
concerned about the being revenue

1446
01:06:56,120 --> 01:06:59,850
neutral

1447
01:06:59,860 --> 01:07:03,170
so yeah the way the the way the model is

1448
01:07:03,170 --> 01:07:05,720
set up you put in all those expenses and

1449
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:08,150
debt and everything is in there to start

1450
01:07:08,150 --> 01:07:12,350
with and so the goal since the the city

1451
01:07:12,350 --> 01:07:14,210
water company is trying to provide the

1452
01:07:14,210 --> 01:07:18,080
service and cover cost is not to profit

1453
01:07:18,080 --> 01:07:19,460
from it it's just to make sure we cover

1454
01:07:19,460 --> 01:07:21,710
expenses to include those future capital

1455
01:07:21,710 --> 01:07:23,210
outlays that are necessary for the

1456
01:07:23,210 --> 01:07:26,240
system so we felt given the charge that

1457
01:07:26,240 --> 01:07:29,600
the council gave us that are going in

1458
01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:31,820
target should be to make sure the model

1459
01:07:31,820 --> 01:07:34,280
comes out as close to revenue neutral as

1460
01:07:34,280 --> 01:07:35,020
possible

1461
01:07:35,020 --> 01:07:37,250
meaning that our expenses are going to

1462
01:07:37,250 --> 01:07:39,710
be covered by our revenues we did define

1463
01:07:39,710 --> 01:07:41,480
revenue neutral though as being within

1464
01:07:41,480 --> 01:07:43,880
2% of the estimate because there's a lot

1465
01:07:43,880 --> 01:07:46,670
of fluctuation in there from year to

1466
01:07:46,670 --> 01:07:49,040
year so we wanted to have a projection

1467
01:07:49,040 --> 01:07:50,750
that was no less than zero break-even

1468
01:07:50,750 --> 01:07:55,250
but no more than a 2% above estimates so

1469
01:07:55,250 --> 01:07:58,910
there there is about $20,000 Delta in

1470
01:07:58,910 --> 01:08:00,650
there so there's a little bit of wiggle

1471
01:08:00,650 --> 01:08:04,040
room but we felt that we needed to try

1472
01:08:04,040 --> 01:08:05,230
to

1473
01:08:05,230 --> 01:08:07,940
rebuild a little bit of confidence in

1474
01:08:07,940 --> 01:08:10,160
the process as well so we just wanted to

1475
01:08:10,160 --> 01:08:13,040
emphasize that our whole going in was

1476
01:08:13,040 --> 01:08:15,410
revenue neutral but that doesn't mean

1477
01:08:15,410 --> 01:08:17,569
we're not covering it our expenses

1478
01:08:17,569 --> 01:08:19,600
alright we're just not targeting

1479
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:23,450
additional income we we do have a twenty

1480
01:08:23,450 --> 01:08:26,210
five thousand per year increase to you

1481
01:08:26,210 --> 01:08:28,910
know increase our reserves though so

1482
01:08:28,910 --> 01:08:30,109
we're still adding twenty five thousand

1483
01:08:30,109 --> 01:08:32,420
to the reserve every year that's in

1484
01:08:32,420 --> 01:08:35,210
there already well personally I don't

1485
01:08:35,210 --> 01:08:39,520
have any any problems with money

1486
01:08:39,520 --> 01:08:41,600
let's take this and it was already

1487
01:08:41,600 --> 01:08:44,260
mentioned take this to the extreme

1488
01:08:44,260 --> 01:08:46,970
let's say the weed winter a severe

1489
01:08:46,970 --> 01:08:50,870
drought a 5-10 year drought we have the

1490
01:08:50,870 --> 01:08:53,569
Trinity Walker aquifers playing out we

1491
01:08:53,569 --> 01:08:55,460
have to buy massive amount of water for

1492
01:08:55,460 --> 01:08:58,730
the med ed works having a good good size

1493
01:08:58,730 --> 01:09:00,950
cushion in there would be I think very

1494
01:09:00,950 --> 01:09:03,290
helpful and I don't see I don't think

1495
01:09:03,290 --> 01:09:06,080
see a thing wrong with you know increase

1496
01:09:06,080 --> 01:09:08,150
in or or taking that money and setting

1497
01:09:08,150 --> 01:09:11,440
aside for for something we don't foresee

1498
01:09:11,440 --> 01:09:13,760
well we don't either I don't want to

1499
01:09:13,760 --> 01:09:16,130
imply that but the Edwards and Trinity

1500
01:09:16,130 --> 01:09:18,859
fees are essentially past throughs so we

1501
01:09:18,859 --> 01:09:20,299
pulled those out of the model so they're

1502
01:09:20,299 --> 01:09:22,910
not counted twice so there is still the

1503
01:09:22,910 --> 01:09:24,589
ability through that that particular

1504
01:09:24,589 --> 01:09:27,680
part of the of the bill to cover those

1505
01:09:27,680 --> 01:09:29,990
additional costs if they arise but

1506
01:09:29,990 --> 01:09:32,030
secondly we also wanted to focus only on

1507
01:09:32,030 --> 01:09:34,010
this year so the problem we were trying

1508
01:09:34,010 --> 01:09:35,600
to solve is what do we need for the

1509
01:09:35,600 --> 01:09:38,569
rates now all that can be adjusted in an

1510
01:09:38,569 --> 01:09:41,230
annual review process

1511
01:09:41,230 --> 01:09:44,060
and that that's really the bottom line

1512
01:09:44,060 --> 01:09:45,710
we don't have a problem with it either

1513
01:09:45,710 --> 01:09:47,000
we just didn't know how to quantify that

1514
01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,130
you know what it was a reasonable amount

1515
01:09:49,130 --> 01:09:50,690
so the model that we're showing was

1516
01:09:50,690 --> 01:09:52,609
based upon the assumption of let's keep

1517
01:09:52,609 --> 01:09:55,680
everything neutral

1518
01:09:55,690 --> 01:09:57,920
doesn't mean it can't be you know

1519
01:09:57,920 --> 01:09:59,990
adjusted but for right now that those

1520
01:09:59,990 --> 01:10:02,420
two options provide you the same income

1521
01:10:02,420 --> 01:10:04,520
now we did have a lot of discussion and

1522
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:07,040
concern

1523
01:10:07,050 --> 01:10:09,940
one of the charges was to you know just

1524
01:10:09,940 --> 01:10:11,739
the mid-tier but not affect the lower

1525
01:10:11,739 --> 01:10:14,650
tiers option two does affect the lower

1526
01:10:14,650 --> 01:10:18,550
tiers far more substantially there's a

1527
01:10:18,550 --> 01:10:21,400
lot of reasons not to do that but if you

1528
01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:23,260
look back at the volume consumption data

1529
01:10:23,260 --> 01:10:25,600
you'll find that yes we we consume two

1530
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:27,909
million gallons less a month but if you

1531
01:10:27,909 --> 01:10:29,620
look at the higher volume tiers they

1532
01:10:29,620 --> 01:10:33,090
went up so that reflects the lack of

1533
01:10:33,090 --> 01:10:36,010
restrictions right we removed the the

1534
01:10:36,010 --> 01:10:37,449
restrictions and said you know if you

1535
01:10:37,449 --> 01:10:39,159
pay for your water you can use your

1536
01:10:39,159 --> 01:10:42,699
water so those upper tiers are kind of

1537
01:10:42,699 --> 01:10:46,050
our highly demand sensitive when people

1538
01:10:46,050 --> 01:10:49,090
when the price goes up they can cut down

1539
01:10:49,090 --> 01:10:53,380
how much they use or vice versa so since

1540
01:10:53,380 --> 01:10:54,610
the goal was to make sure the water

1541
01:10:54,610 --> 01:10:55,900
company was funded and we were focused

1542
01:10:55,900 --> 01:10:58,480
only on next year we did not emphasize

1543
01:10:58,480 --> 01:10:59,880
that

1544
01:10:59,880 --> 01:11:02,350
because we didn't want the since there's

1545
01:11:02,350 --> 01:11:04,060
already been a two million gallon of

1546
01:11:04,060 --> 01:11:05,800
decrease we didn't want to take a chance

1547
01:11:05,800 --> 01:11:09,310
on being below targets for next year so

1548
01:11:09,310 --> 01:11:10,989
I do want to I guess we won't emphasize

1549
01:11:10,989 --> 01:11:12,370
our recommendation is this is a one-year

1550
01:11:12,370 --> 01:11:14,469
recommendation the model provides those

1551
01:11:14,469 --> 01:11:17,020
out your projections but it's gonna have

1552
01:11:17,020 --> 01:11:19,390
to be relooked at with more data as time

1553
01:11:19,390 --> 01:11:21,760
goes forward I think I want to add is

1554
01:11:21,760 --> 01:11:24,580
that the water markets with their rates

1555
01:11:24,580 --> 01:11:27,340
were based on the data they had when we

1556
01:11:27,340 --> 01:11:29,130
say you know

1557
01:11:29,130 --> 01:11:31,420
revenue neutral there were eleven

1558
01:11:31,420 --> 01:11:33,340
thousand dollars and we're in the same

1559
01:11:33,340 --> 01:11:35,230
range with our numbers based on the new

1560
01:11:35,230 --> 01:11:37,810
data that we input it this year so we're

1561
01:11:37,810 --> 01:11:39,489
still following the same process that

1562
01:11:39,489 --> 01:11:41,650
what our markets did the difference in

1563
01:11:41,650 --> 01:11:44,140
that option for using the water market

1564
01:11:44,140 --> 01:11:47,580
rates is that our new data gives us that

1565
01:11:47,580 --> 01:11:49,510
increases that by fifty thousand dollars

1566
01:11:49,510 --> 01:11:52,030
revenue increase the difference as well

1567
01:11:52,030 --> 01:11:54,790
is the explanation there so our new data

1568
01:11:54,790 --> 01:11:57,390
is what makes a difference

1569
01:11:57,390 --> 01:11:59,770
okay so council is gonna be taking a

1570
01:11:59,770 --> 01:12:03,510
look at this and y'all every year

1571
01:12:03,510 --> 01:12:05,590
the Water Commission Marchena our

1572
01:12:05,590 --> 01:12:08,650
changes in our options here we can we

1573
01:12:08,650 --> 01:12:10,120
can do different ways you know and all

1574
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,100
that'll be modified it's like living

1575
01:12:12,100 --> 01:12:13,930
document it can be a living yes sir we

1576
01:12:13,930 --> 01:12:16,120
may have a lot from five next year could

1577
01:12:16,120 --> 01:12:19,150
be or three only three okay I really

1578
01:12:19,150 --> 01:12:20,620
won't look at very very well done that

1579
01:12:20,620 --> 01:12:24,000
commercial part is really you know

1580
01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:27,640
how so much money just a big thank you I

1581
01:12:27,640 --> 01:12:29,620
watched the Water Commission meeting and

1582
01:12:29,620 --> 01:12:31,810
you guys are very thorough and I

1583
01:12:31,810 --> 01:12:33,160
appreciate all the work you put into it

1584
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:37,370
I probably picked Jessie's brain

1585
01:12:37,380 --> 01:12:39,880
so I I certainly don't have any

1586
01:12:39,880 --> 01:12:41,230
questions I've I've looked at all of

1587
01:12:41,230 --> 01:12:45,020
this and this is a great work thank you

1588
01:12:45,030 --> 01:12:49,760
sir

1589
01:12:49,770 --> 01:12:54,040
ditto Lisa on thanks this is quite a

1590
01:12:54,040 --> 01:12:55,780
project matter of fact it was a whole

1591
01:12:55,780 --> 01:12:58,720
lot of fun reading it over a few dozen

1592
01:12:58,720 --> 01:13:00,250
times trying to figure out what was

1593
01:13:00,250 --> 01:13:05,910
going on nobody guy seriously the I had

1594
01:13:05,910 --> 01:13:09,670
one of my reservations was the 14%

1595
01:13:09,670 --> 01:13:13,110
increase at the low level and

1596
01:13:13,110 --> 01:13:16,090
because one thing that we didn't want to

1597
01:13:16,090 --> 01:13:18,660
do was increase

1598
01:13:18,660 --> 01:13:22,950
those that did conserve and and wanted

1599
01:13:22,950 --> 01:13:25,960
you know didn't didn't want to do he's a

1600
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,600
whole lot of water thing bad is after

1601
01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:31,810
you run a few numbers like at the 30,000

1602
01:13:31,810 --> 01:13:33,300
level

1603
01:13:33,300 --> 01:13:37,900
it's next to $15 yeah that's why 50,000

1604
01:13:37,900 --> 01:13:43,320
level it's like $36 I don't like to

1605
01:13:43,320 --> 01:13:51,940
minimize that but it's not like the huge amounts that we

1606
01:13:51,940 --> 01:13:56,530
had earlier and I and I was hoping that

1607
01:13:56,530 --> 01:13:59,200
we could go a little bit higher at the

1608
01:13:59,200 --> 01:14:00,120
high end

1609
01:14:00,120 --> 01:14:03,750
because that's where

1610
01:14:03,750 --> 01:14:06,430
you know I couldn't believe we had

1611
01:14:06,430 --> 01:14:09,370
people at 200,000 gallons I'm just glad

1612
01:14:09,370 --> 01:14:11,770
that the press wasn't here because

1613
01:14:11,770 --> 01:14:15,930
that's a lot of water and however

1614
01:14:15,930 --> 01:14:19,570
in reviewing what you did the 14%

1615
01:14:19,570 --> 01:14:21,730
increase

1616
01:14:21,730 --> 01:14:25,690
hey that's just for the first year and B

1617
01:14:25,690 --> 01:14:29,140
we do need to increase our rates to

1618
01:14:29,140 --> 01:14:31,050
cover our costs

1619
01:14:31,050 --> 01:14:34,780
as the mayor said last month in the

1620
01:14:34,780 --> 01:14:36,730
month before in the month before that

1621
01:14:36,730 --> 01:14:40,150
we're trying to let the administrative

1622
01:14:40,150 --> 01:14:43,680
budget and the water budget stand on

1623
01:14:43,680 --> 01:14:48,850
their own and so we have to look at this

1624
01:14:48,850 --> 01:14:52,590
very critically the one thing that

1625
01:14:52,590 --> 01:14:57,680
iced option - for me was that

1626
01:14:57,690 --> 01:15:02,590
the annual review if next year we decide

1627
01:15:02,590 --> 01:15:04,660
well we only want to increase at ten

1628
01:15:04,660 --> 01:15:07,480
percent or three percent or none at the

1629
01:15:07,480 --> 01:15:10,390
lower levels we don't increase it if we

1630
01:15:10,390 --> 01:15:12,390
want to increase it more diaper levels

1631
01:15:12,390 --> 01:15:16,950
and we do it so it's nice to have that

1632
01:15:16,950 --> 01:15:21,060
well not only is it nice to have that

1633
01:15:21,060 --> 01:15:24,520
your your model it's nice to understand

1634
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:26,370
it so

1635
01:15:26,370 --> 01:15:31,820
thank you very much appreciate your work

1636
01:15:31,830 --> 01:15:35,240
Thanks

1637
01:15:35,250 --> 01:15:39,070
chairman and vice-chairman yeah thank

1638
01:15:39,070 --> 01:15:42,940
you you know a lot you took what water

1639
01:15:42,940 --> 01:15:45,400
markets gave us and then tailored it to

1640
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:49,360
a year's more of data and and then gave

1641
01:15:49,360 --> 01:15:55,570
us some more options and a superb job of internalizing this and as

1642
01:15:55,570 --> 01:15:58,510
well as trying to give us options to

1643
01:15:58,510 --> 01:15:59,800
stick with some of the things that we

1644
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:03,610
had talked about with trying to take

1645
01:16:03,610 --> 01:16:07,330
somebody that was in the lower end and

1646
01:16:07,330 --> 01:16:09,130
not having them affected but we found

1647
01:16:09,130 --> 01:16:15,010
that that that was an unpopular way because the people in this

1648
01:16:15,010 --> 01:16:17,560
city say no everybody should everybody

1649
01:16:17,560 --> 01:16:20,710
should pay more the the thing that's

1650
01:16:20,710 --> 01:16:23,080
interesting that really shaped a lot of

1651
01:16:23,080 --> 01:16:23,970
this

1652
01:16:23,970 --> 01:16:26,860
discussion was one of the things that I

1653
01:16:26,860 --> 01:16:29,770
said that that I missed and that was

1654
01:16:29,770 --> 01:16:33,560
that it happened in Sept

1655
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:36,650
and for the record everybody talks about

1656
01:16:36,650 --> 01:16:39,920
well the 80,000 80,000 gallon user and a

1657
01:16:39,920 --> 01:16:42,080
hundred thousand gallon user the

1658
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:46,250
perspective on this is it was the second

1659
01:16:46,250 --> 01:16:49,370
hottest August on record in this area

1660
01:16:49,370 --> 01:16:52,700
during a severe drought and to keep in

1661
01:16:52,700 --> 01:16:55,390
mind council

1662
01:16:55,390 --> 01:16:59,300
95 behind 95 people in the city used

1663
01:16:59,300 --> 01:17:02,060
more than the city used of February

1664
01:17:02,060 --> 01:17:05,120
prior the entire city an entire month of

1665
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:08,270
February so you know everybody was using

1666
01:17:08,270 --> 01:17:11,090
their bill that they got in September

1667
01:17:11,090 --> 01:17:13,610
and we had Realtors coming up here and

1668
01:17:13,610 --> 01:17:17,300
telling us that there's no way we could sell a house of it was going to

1669
01:17:17,300 --> 01:17:20,060
be a $2,000 bill every month well I

1670
01:17:20,060 --> 01:17:21,820
can't imagine that somebody

1671
01:17:21,820 --> 01:17:26,840
thinks it's realistic that they're gonna water 150,000 gallons in

1672
01:17:26,840 --> 01:17:29,600
February you know December January

1673
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:32,930
February March timeframe and so that and

1674
01:17:32,930 --> 01:17:35,930
that was that was just my mind not

1675
01:17:35,930 --> 01:17:38,120
realizing that that the timing was was

1676
01:17:38,120 --> 01:17:41,660
pretty bad so that and I mentioned that

1677
01:17:41,660 --> 01:17:43,550
not just to look back but to also talk

1678
01:17:43,550 --> 01:17:45,740
about as we look at this chart the

1679
01:17:45,740 --> 01:17:47,660
reality of this is even the people that

1680
01:17:47,660 --> 01:17:50,390
were using 150,000 gallons they're gonna

1681
01:17:50,390 --> 01:17:52,480
be hard-pressed to use 150,000 gallons

1682
01:17:52,480 --> 01:17:55,550
this month the next month and so the

1683
01:17:55,550 --> 01:17:57,350
average that they're going to be using

1684
01:17:57,350 --> 01:18:00,410
over the year is far different than the

1685
01:18:00,410 --> 01:18:02,290
outcry of the

1686
01:18:02,290 --> 01:18:05,660
150,000 gallons and the and the two

1687
01:18:05,660 --> 01:18:07,850
thousand dollar bill that they had as I

1688
01:18:07,850 --> 01:18:10,340
said to keep their grass green during a

1689
01:18:10,340 --> 01:18:12,620
severe drought in the second hottest

1690
01:18:12,620 --> 01:18:14,990
August on record and that is not in a

1691
01:18:14,990 --> 01:18:17,180
vacuum because anybody paying attention

1692
01:18:17,180 --> 01:18:20,980
to the news both print and and

1693
01:18:20,980 --> 01:18:24,650
TV pretty much every city around here

1694
01:18:24,650 --> 01:18:27,890
went through the same thing and New

1695
01:18:27,890 --> 01:18:29,540
Braunfels was smart enough to wait to

1696
01:18:29,540 --> 01:18:33,950
raise their rates till after the after we got through the heat but

1697
01:18:33,950 --> 01:18:35,120
they're they're they're raising their

1698
01:18:35,120 --> 01:18:36,220
rates off

1699
01:18:36,220 --> 01:18:38,300
Cibolo everybody was raising their rates

1700
01:18:38,300 --> 01:18:40,400
and you saw in the news of people were

1701
01:18:40,400 --> 01:18:41,930
we're all screaming there's no way I

1702
01:18:41,930 --> 01:18:44,630
could have used this much water so it

1703
01:18:44,630 --> 01:18:45,820
it's just bad timing

1704
01:18:45,820 --> 01:18:48,739
but and also for the record there wasn't

1705
01:18:48,739 --> 01:18:50,020
I never

1706
01:18:50,020 --> 01:18:52,489
to my knowledge said that I didn't know

1707
01:18:52,489 --> 01:18:54,800
how much the rates were gonna go up what

1708
01:18:54,800 --> 01:18:56,500
I said was I didn't realize

1709
01:18:56,500 --> 01:18:59,989
what was gonna happen in August and I

1710
01:18:59,989 --> 01:19:03,050
didn't present it as such so you really

1711
01:19:03,050 --> 01:19:06,409
did a great job of showing that we still

1712
01:19:06,409 --> 01:19:10,130
need to do this and what was lost on a

1713
01:19:10,130 --> 01:19:11,810
lot of people is that we didn't just sit

1714
01:19:11,810 --> 01:19:13,909
and do nothing for five years it was

1715
01:19:13,909 --> 01:19:15,739
because we needed to have better data

1716
01:19:15,739 --> 01:19:18,530
going in before we decided what to do

1717
01:19:18,530 --> 01:19:19,969
when we thought it was disingenuous that

1718
01:19:19,969 --> 01:19:22,909
just raised the rates blindly without

1719
01:19:22,909 --> 01:19:25,219
knowing what we needed to do the users

1720
01:19:25,219 --> 01:19:27,560
they don't believe this but they were

1721
01:19:27,560 --> 01:19:29,630
beneficiaries of that five-year pause

1722
01:19:29,630 --> 01:19:32,420
because as we were determining what the

1723
01:19:32,420 --> 01:19:34,429
real cost of the of the water company

1724
01:19:34,429 --> 01:19:37,370
was and as we we fully loaded the water

1725
01:19:37,370 --> 01:19:38,570
company did all the things we did over

1726
01:19:38,570 --> 01:19:41,060
the last few years the rates stayed the

1727
01:19:41,060 --> 01:19:44,900
same and also for the record we're

1728
01:19:44,900 --> 01:19:48,260
surrounded by cities that have baked in

1729
01:19:48,260 --> 01:19:51,170
water increases every year so it's not

1730
01:19:51,170 --> 01:19:52,790
very controversial because it's just

1731
01:19:52,790 --> 01:19:54,500
there already and everybody everybody

1732
01:19:54,500 --> 01:19:56,420
knows that next year's bill is going to

1733
01:19:56,420 --> 01:19:58,639
be higher I think and we're going to

1734
01:19:58,639 --> 01:20:00,980
talk about that in a separate motion but

1735
01:20:00,980 --> 01:20:02,750
I appreciate that you said no what we'll

1736
01:20:02,750 --> 01:20:04,100
do is we'll just look at it every year

1737
01:20:04,100 --> 01:20:06,710
and because we have smart people like

1738
01:20:06,710 --> 01:20:08,810
you that know how to use this model

1739
01:20:08,810 --> 01:20:11,510
really well we can take another years

1740
01:20:11,510 --> 01:20:14,270
worth of data plug it back in and see

1741
01:20:14,270 --> 01:20:15,370
where we are

1742
01:20:15,370 --> 01:20:19,940
you know the this this these two options

1743
01:20:19,940 --> 01:20:21,530
that you have that we have presented

1744
01:20:21,530 --> 01:20:24,139
right here are both strong viable

1745
01:20:24,139 --> 01:20:26,679
options to maintain the the

1746
01:20:26,679 --> 01:20:30,980
fiscal solvency of the company and and

1747
01:20:30,980 --> 01:20:33,949
be able to then kind of do a what I

1748
01:20:33,949 --> 01:20:35,630
would call shoot look and see see what's

1749
01:20:35,630 --> 01:20:39,139
going on so so yeah echoing everybody's

1750
01:20:39,139 --> 01:20:40,580
comments up here thank you for all the

1751
01:20:40,580 --> 01:20:43,280
they the extraordinary amount of time

1752
01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:45,110
and effort that you put into doing this

1753
01:20:45,110 --> 01:20:47,659
so that said all of us have had an

1754
01:20:47,659 --> 01:20:49,340
opportunity to speak and now it's a

1755
01:20:49,340 --> 01:20:51,530
question of what's the council's will

1756
01:20:51,530 --> 01:20:53,989
and what you want to do and what I'd say

1757
01:20:53,989 --> 01:20:56,910
is what option

1758
01:20:56,910 --> 01:20:59,820
and also when you want this to take

1759
01:20:59,820 --> 01:21:02,740
effect

1760
01:21:02,750 --> 01:21:04,700
anyone a

1761
01:21:04,700 --> 01:21:07,490
movie except option 2

1762
01:21:07,490 --> 01:21:12,240
okay I have from place three that will

1763
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:13,970
go with option number two

1764
01:21:13,970 --> 01:21:18,360
second and second from place one any

1765
01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:22,090
further discussion or questions

1766
01:21:22,100 --> 01:21:25,320
absolutely okay we've proposed I think

1767
01:21:25,320 --> 01:21:27,480
last month or two months ago or so we

1768
01:21:27,480 --> 01:21:30,330
not start until December yes I'm sorry

1769
01:21:30,330 --> 01:21:32,130
January is what's December for january

1770
01:21:32,130 --> 01:21:35,160
bill is what you yes yes so your

1771
01:21:35,160 --> 01:21:36,330
Christmas bills you get your new water

1772
01:21:36,330 --> 01:21:38,940
bill yeah so no change in that is what

1773
01:21:38,940 --> 01:21:40,740
we had is what this this body of the

1774
01:21:40,740 --> 01:21:42,210
side of the December that's number for

1775
01:21:42,210 --> 01:21:46,380
January is that that part of company

1776
01:21:46,380 --> 01:21:49,470
that do it doable yeah okay yeah so an

1777
01:21:49,470 --> 01:21:50,450
amplification

1778
01:21:50,450 --> 01:21:54,070
anything else ma'am

1779
01:21:54,080 --> 01:21:58,080
okay so from place three the motion for

1780
01:21:58,080 --> 01:22:01,590
option number two and place one with the

1781
01:22:01,590 --> 01:22:04,880
second all in favor

1782
01:22:04,880 --> 01:22:08,660
any opposed it is unanimous

1783
01:22:08,660 --> 01:22:11,880
again fantastic job and now moving to

1784
01:22:11,880 --> 01:22:16,320
the annual part I'll just Mennella say

1785
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:17,340
about that I think you've pretty much

1786
01:22:17,340 --> 01:22:20,070
covered it we separated it out but again

1787
01:22:20,070 --> 01:22:22,740
a lot of cities around here just say

1788
01:22:22,740 --> 01:22:24,090
that it's going to be an X percent in

1789
01:22:24,090 --> 01:22:26,340
every every year period nobody even it's

1790
01:22:26,340 --> 01:22:28,050
not even a further discussion but in

1791
01:22:28,050 --> 01:22:29,850
this case what what we're recommending

1792
01:22:29,850 --> 01:22:32,040
particularly since this is our first

1793
01:22:32,040 --> 01:22:34,520
time in in nearly five years

1794
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:36,900
adjusting the rates it really makes a

1795
01:22:36,900 --> 01:22:38,370
lot of sense to do what they're asking

1796
01:22:38,370 --> 01:22:42,660
so looking for a motion to review the

1797
01:22:42,660 --> 01:22:43,980
water each annually and what I will say

1798
01:22:43,980 --> 01:22:46,110
is I didn't pick up on this until today

1799
01:22:46,110 --> 01:22:47,580
but we should have been specific about

1800
01:22:47,580 --> 01:22:50,850
when we say annually do we mean like

1801
01:22:50,850 --> 01:22:53,790
twelve months from now or so do you have

1802
01:22:53,790 --> 01:22:55,350
an amplification of that recommend yes

1803
01:22:55,350 --> 01:22:59,340
sir it'd be October of next year just I

1804
01:22:59,340 --> 01:23:02,370
mean it'd be after we get the budget to

1805
01:23:02,370 --> 01:23:04,530
prove for the fiscal year 2019 and we

1806
01:23:04,530 --> 01:23:07,440
get the annual usage for the fiscal year

1807
01:23:07,440 --> 01:23:10,650
2020 which is September 30th or

1808
01:23:10,650 --> 01:23:12,870
/ first so we will start the process in

1809
01:23:12,870 --> 01:23:14,780
October

1810
01:23:14,780 --> 01:23:18,300
and and then and bring to Council in

1811
01:23:18,300 --> 01:23:21,780
November in November yes sir okay that's

1812
01:23:21,780 --> 01:23:24,210
great thanks we have to find that same

1813
01:23:24,210 --> 01:23:26,250
time the same time for 12 months council

1814
01:23:26,250 --> 01:23:28,590
any questions or comments on on what

1815
01:23:28,590 --> 01:23:30,000
that recommendation is starting to write

1816
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:33,100
sign

1817
01:23:33,110 --> 01:23:35,870
yes I would like

1818
01:23:35,870 --> 01:23:39,000
adopting an annual at his timetable at

1819
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:41,520
the recommendation but I also would like

1820
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:43,409
to seriously I just want on the record

1821
01:23:43,409 --> 01:23:47,460
to review the high end users because if

1822
01:23:47,460 --> 01:23:48,510
there's somebody thinks they're green

1823
01:23:48,510 --> 01:23:49,650
grass is more important than somebody

1824
01:23:49,650 --> 01:23:51,780
having drinking water I'd like to really

1825
01:23:51,780 --> 01:23:55,340
reconsider that it's a higher tier or

1826
01:23:55,340 --> 01:23:57,900
penalized if you will Tommy them thank

1827
01:23:57,900 --> 01:24:00,449
you understand okay so that said can I

1828
01:24:00,449 --> 01:24:06,669
get a motion on this recommendation

1829
01:24:06,679 --> 01:24:09,810
I'm overview the water rates annually I

1830
01:24:09,810 --> 01:24:12,030
have a motion from place three to reboot

1831
01:24:12,030 --> 01:24:15,150
review the water h annually to bring and

1832
01:24:15,150 --> 01:24:17,880
the analysis be done to bring to council

1833
01:24:17,880 --> 01:24:21,690
in November of e of following year can I

1834
01:24:21,690 --> 01:24:24,360
get a second second second from place to

1835
01:24:24,360 --> 01:24:26,730
any further discussion or questions all

1836
01:24:26,730 --> 01:24:28,140
in favor aye

1837
01:24:28,140 --> 01:24:32,390
any opposed it is unanimous

1838
01:24:32,390 --> 01:24:36,060
anything else yes just want to cover our

1839
01:24:36,060 --> 01:24:38,219
next Water Commission meeting has has

1840
01:24:38,219 --> 01:24:39,719
been moved up to the third Tuesday

1841
01:24:39,719 --> 01:24:42,570
because of Thanksgiving week so our next

1842
01:24:42,570 --> 01:24:44,820
menial being November 19th at 6 p.m.

1843
01:24:44,820 --> 01:24:47,730
here at the next meeting will will Masek

1844
01:24:47,730 --> 01:24:49,650
adjust focus on the water leak

1845
01:24:49,650 --> 01:24:51,920
adjustments that

1846
01:24:51,920 --> 01:24:54,600
Jacob Parsons is pushing up to us and

1847
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:57,330
then for future topics starting in the

1848
01:24:57,330 --> 01:24:59,280
spring we'll be looking at educational

1849
01:24:59,280 --> 01:25:02,310
sessions on water conservation so that's

1850
01:25:02,310 --> 01:25:03,380
all I have to add

1851
01:25:03,380 --> 01:25:07,409
great job and thank you so much and

1852
01:25:07,409 --> 01:25:09,390
you're about to also have another PE and

1853
01:25:09,390 --> 01:25:12,170
I have some engineer Wars going

1854
01:25:12,170 --> 01:25:15,890
but that's fantastic and and

1855
01:25:15,890 --> 01:25:18,600
really taken on the charge we talked

1856
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:19,420
about

1857
01:25:19,420 --> 01:25:22,840
gosh now a year and a half ago with with

1858
01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:24,670
all of the different different projects

1859
01:25:24,670 --> 01:25:30,790
and really encouraging that that this commission is really moving moving

1860
01:25:30,790 --> 01:25:32,770
out pretty pretty handily thank you very

1861
01:25:32,770 --> 01:25:35,970
much well anything else for the Water

1862
01:25:35,970 --> 01:25:40,110
Commission starting right side left side

1863
01:25:40,110 --> 01:25:42,810
okay item number

1864
01:25:42,810 --> 01:25:46,770
9d wildlife management

1865
01:25:46,770 --> 01:25:50,780
had one meeting in

1866
01:25:50,790 --> 01:25:54,340
skis kind of represent for sure sir

1867
01:25:54,340 --> 01:25:56,470
thank you

1868
01:25:56,470 --> 01:26:00,480
on our last meeting we had a

1869
01:26:00,480 --> 01:26:02,710
resignation of Jeremiah McKinney place

1870
01:26:02,710 --> 01:26:07,290
for we accepted his resignation and

1871
01:26:07,290 --> 01:26:11,500
interview 2 replacement candidates we

1872
01:26:11,500 --> 01:26:15,850
decided on dr. Denise miner Williams for

1873
01:26:15,850 --> 01:26:18,310
that place Fork Commission I guess that

1874
01:26:18,310 --> 01:26:21,210
place for seat

1875
01:26:21,210 --> 01:26:27,200
and we are recommending her for for that

1876
01:26:27,210 --> 01:26:30,340
yeah that's what I got okay I'll take

1877
01:26:30,340 --> 01:26:32,710
pretty song I split these outlets first

1878
01:26:32,710 --> 01:26:35,040
I

1879
01:26:35,040 --> 01:26:37,030
request the motion to accept the

1880
01:26:37,030 --> 01:26:41,170
resignation of Jeremiah McKinney from place for and a wildlife-management

1881
01:26:41,170 --> 01:26:44,560
Advisory Commission I move to accept the

1882
01:26:44,560 --> 01:26:46,360
resignation of Jeremiah McKinney from

1883
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:48,400
the wildlife management Advisory

1884
01:26:48,400 --> 01:26:50,500
Commission I get a motion from place to

1885
01:26:50,500 --> 01:26:53,890
could I get a second Sagat place for

1886
01:26:53,890 --> 01:26:55,960
would the second any further discussions

1887
01:26:55,960 --> 01:26:57,700
questions starting left side with

1888
01:26:57,700 --> 01:27:00,720
regrets thank you

1889
01:27:00,720 --> 01:27:02,980
yeah I'm gonna say it with regrets and

1890
01:27:02,980 --> 01:27:04,510
we're losing a guy that's a wildlife

1891
01:27:04,510 --> 01:27:07,240
biologist by profession so that's a big

1892
01:27:07,240 --> 01:27:09,850
loss to the the Wildlife Commission and

1893
01:27:09,850 --> 01:27:11,020
I'll reserve my other comments when we

1894
01:27:11,020 --> 01:27:13,050
bring the new person on

1895
01:27:13,050 --> 01:27:17,070
sir anything ma'am I

1896
01:27:17,070 --> 01:27:22,620
agree with Todd hate to see him go

1897
01:27:22,630 --> 01:27:27,530
so yeah we are we are losing somebody

1898
01:27:27,530 --> 01:27:29,570
that is really an expert and has done a

1899
01:27:29,570 --> 01:27:32,030
lot of great work I will tell you in his

1900
01:27:32,030 --> 01:27:33,400
resignation

1901
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:35,890
he actually

1902
01:27:35,890 --> 01:27:42,350
volunteered to continue helping with the plan and anything else so he's

1903
01:27:42,350 --> 01:27:45,260
stepping away from it but not entirely

1904
01:27:45,260 --> 01:27:46,760
and we really appreciate that so gonna

1905
01:27:46,760 --> 01:27:49,219
Motion place to a second for place for

1906
01:27:49,219 --> 01:27:51,170
all in favor accepting the resignation

1907
01:27:51,170 --> 01:27:55,400
say aye any opposed it is unanimous and

1908
01:27:55,400 --> 01:27:58,100
then the second part which is we are

1909
01:27:58,100 --> 01:28:00,620
very fortunate to have dr. miner

1910
01:28:00,620 --> 01:28:02,630
Williams she's not here tonight she told

1911
01:28:02,630 --> 01:28:05,719
us she couldn't be here but she's she

1912
01:28:05,719 --> 01:28:07,070
actually was here at the last council

1913
01:28:07,070 --> 01:28:09,350
meeting if you recall representing with

1914
01:28:09,350 --> 01:28:12,650
the Bat Conservation folks but she is

1915
01:28:12,650 --> 01:28:16,760
she she is very well versed in the

1916
01:28:16,760 --> 01:28:19,580
doings of wildlife management and we're

1917
01:28:19,580 --> 01:28:21,410
very fortunate that she she stepped up

1918
01:28:21,410 --> 01:28:24,170
to volunteer so it's a recommendation of

1919
01:28:24,170 --> 01:28:25,820
the wildlife management visor Commission

1920
01:28:25,820 --> 01:28:28,400
to accept her on its place for can I get

1921
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:31,820
in a motion move to approve place one

1922
01:28:31,820 --> 01:28:33,770
with a motion to approve dr. Denise

1923
01:28:33,770 --> 01:28:35,840
miner Williams I sent the motion I get a

1924
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:37,340
second from place five any further

1925
01:28:37,340 --> 01:28:41,000
discussion of questions all in favor aye

1926
01:28:41,000 --> 01:28:44,510
can you post it is unanimous please pass

1927
01:28:44,510 --> 01:28:46,010
on to her when you when you see her that

1928
01:28:46,010 --> 01:28:47,870
we're excited to have her on there as

1929
01:28:47,870 --> 01:28:49,880
well as we've all told Jeremiah

1930
01:28:49,880 --> 01:28:51,830
individually how much we we appreciate

1931
01:28:51,830 --> 01:28:54,590
what he did we'll do anything else for

1932
01:28:54,590 --> 01:28:56,660
monthly activity so we had a couple of

1933
01:28:56,660 --> 01:28:58,760
we had a presentation on bees that

1934
01:28:58,760 --> 01:29:01,940
believe it's on YouTube I felt it I felt

1935
01:29:01,940 --> 01:29:03,770
like it was very informative so if

1936
01:29:03,770 --> 01:29:05,690
you're interested in learning a little

1937
01:29:05,690 --> 01:29:08,440
bit more about bees and

1938
01:29:08,440 --> 01:29:11,810
pollinate and pollination there's a good

1939
01:29:11,810 --> 01:29:13,670
I believe it's on YouTube you can go

1940
01:29:13,670 --> 01:29:16,310
watch it it's pretty good we did talk

1941
01:29:16,310 --> 01:29:18,190
about the Hogs I know that's the next

1942
01:29:18,190 --> 01:29:21,320
item we did not come to a council with a

1943
01:29:21,320 --> 01:29:23,770
recommendation for that

1944
01:29:23,770 --> 01:29:27,949
we as a commission decided that the city

1945
01:29:27,949 --> 01:29:30,040
was doing everything that they could to

1946
01:29:30,040 --> 01:29:32,970
address that at this time

1947
01:29:32,970 --> 01:29:35,830
along with I think George rage had some

1948
01:29:35,830 --> 01:29:37,540
initiatives they were working on as well

1949
01:29:37,540 --> 01:29:38,680
so and I think there were some

1950
01:29:38,680 --> 01:29:41,130
discussions around the school assisting

1951
01:29:41,130 --> 01:29:43,600
potentially as well so with all that

1952
01:29:43,600 --> 01:29:45,040
said we didn't come with a

1953
01:29:45,040 --> 01:29:48,520
recommendation to do or spend any money

1954
01:29:48,520 --> 01:29:51,310
from our budget and the wildlife budget

1955
01:29:51,310 --> 01:29:54,490
to addressing the hog situation and

1956
01:29:54,490 --> 01:29:56,080
other than that I don't think we had

1957
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:59,140
anything else thank you then what I'll

1958
01:29:59,140 --> 01:30:01,540
add is later on in the agenda we are

1959
01:30:01,540 --> 01:30:03,010
going to talk about hogs and some other

1960
01:30:03,010 --> 01:30:06,250
actions but it's not because the

1961
01:30:06,250 --> 01:30:08,470
wildlife management Advisory Commission

1962
01:30:08,470 --> 01:30:10,570
didn't didn't have the ideas or anything

1963
01:30:10,570 --> 01:30:12,910
but frankly more things there's been

1964
01:30:12,910 --> 01:30:14,740
more developments since their meeting so

1965
01:30:14,740 --> 01:30:17,470
it's it's just additional information

1966
01:30:17,470 --> 01:30:19,450
additional additional courses are

1967
01:30:19,450 --> 01:30:21,610
potential courses of action so that's

1968
01:30:21,610 --> 01:30:23,370
the reason why it's on there

1969
01:30:23,370 --> 01:30:25,660
any questions or comments for a wildlife

1970
01:30:25,660 --> 01:30:28,410
management starting right side

1971
01:30:28,410 --> 01:30:31,210
did we ever take the time to the the

1972
01:30:31,210 --> 01:30:33,610
biologist that stepped away from helping

1973
01:30:33,610 --> 01:30:35,440
Garden Ridge with Texas Parks and

1974
01:30:35,440 --> 01:30:37,060
Wildlife did we ever take the

1975
01:30:37,060 --> 01:30:39,070
opportunity to write him a letter or a

1976
01:30:39,070 --> 01:30:40,870
supervisor letter telling how much we

1977
01:30:40,870 --> 01:30:43,990
appreciated what he did for the city I

1978
01:30:43,990 --> 01:30:45,670
know that our thank yous been passed

1979
01:30:45,670 --> 01:30:47,650
along I know that Cindy reached out

1980
01:30:47,650 --> 01:30:50,380
who's the the chair of the Wildlife

1981
01:30:50,380 --> 01:30:51,580
Commission reached out to him and

1982
01:30:51,580 --> 01:30:56,260
thanked him in person and that will not

1983
01:30:56,260 --> 01:30:57,730
in person but be a phone call or an

1984
01:30:57,730 --> 01:31:00,790
email I'm not sure if the city broadly

1985
01:31:00,790 --> 01:31:02,260
did that or not but I know that she

1986
01:31:02,260 --> 01:31:04,900
reached out individually did that could

1987
01:31:04,900 --> 01:31:08,370
we do that yeah it's something

1988
01:31:08,370 --> 01:31:12,940
okay and just say first of all I could

1989
01:31:12,940 --> 01:31:15,040
just look for consensus from the council

1990
01:31:15,040 --> 01:31:17,620
would you be would you be amenable to us

1991
01:31:17,620 --> 01:31:20,620
sending to a copy to him but to his

1992
01:31:20,620 --> 01:31:22,060
supervision to say how much we

1993
01:31:22,060 --> 01:31:24,640
appreciate what he did for the city okay

1994
01:31:24,640 --> 01:31:27,370
and what I would say is if you would

1995
01:31:27,370 --> 01:31:29,380
take this back to your Commission see if

1996
01:31:29,380 --> 01:31:32,410
they are - and just write it right have

1997
01:31:32,410 --> 01:31:35,590
somebody write a quick note and and what

1998
01:31:35,590 --> 01:31:38,260
would be really pretty pretty stylish is

1999
01:31:38,260 --> 01:31:40,330
if they all signed it and then bring it

2000
01:31:40,330 --> 01:31:42,070
to will bring it will give it to council

2001
01:31:42,070 --> 01:31:43,630
and they can all sign it and the

2002
01:31:43,630 --> 01:31:45,699
supervision will see that whole bunch of

2003
01:31:45,699 --> 01:31:46,929
people really appreciate all he did for

2004
01:31:46,929 --> 01:31:48,909
our city for sure this time do that

2005
01:31:48,909 --> 01:31:51,550
great great idea he walked away from a

2006
01:31:51,550 --> 01:31:54,190
very difficult situation and and is his

2007
01:31:54,190 --> 01:31:56,199
contribution when he was here with it

2008
01:31:56,199 --> 01:31:58,780
was incredible yeah he went a Bundy

2009
01:31:58,780 --> 01:32:00,219
needs to have something in his work

2010
01:32:00,219 --> 01:32:02,079
flounces yeah that's how much we

2011
01:32:02,079 --> 01:32:03,880
appreciated it and he'd trained he'd

2012
01:32:03,880 --> 01:32:05,860
already transitioned out of the out of

2013
01:32:05,860 --> 01:32:07,869
what was the biologists position into

2014
01:32:07,869 --> 01:32:10,059
another position and still helped us out

2015
01:32:10,059 --> 01:32:12,070
so that was a little extra for be of

2016
01:32:12,070 --> 01:32:14,260
above and beyond what was normally asked

2017
01:32:14,260 --> 01:32:25,960
of him so yeah great idea thank you very much we appreciate all

2018
01:32:25,960 --> 01:32:27,360
that they're doing

2019
01:32:27,360 --> 01:32:30,869
next up is 90 parks committee

2020
01:32:30,869 --> 01:32:33,510
to be succinct

2021
01:32:33,510 --> 01:32:36,269
we're well into

2022
01:32:36,269 --> 01:32:38,909
planning for the tree lighting ceremony

2023
01:32:38,909 --> 01:32:41,320
we had a meeting today we have another

2024
01:32:41,320 --> 01:32:44,280
meeting this month we have a

2025
01:32:44,280 --> 01:32:46,889
extensive task list and

2026
01:32:46,889 --> 01:32:49,690
we're right on right on point in terms

2027
01:32:49,690 --> 01:32:51,900
of getting things done

2028
01:32:51,900 --> 01:32:55,420
the tree lighting ceremony is December

2029
01:32:55,420 --> 01:32:56,760
the 5th

2030
01:32:56,760 --> 01:32:59,489
we start staging

2031
01:32:59,489 --> 01:33:02,569
our

2032
01:33:02,579 --> 01:33:06,010
equipment if you will on December of the

2033
01:33:06,010 --> 01:33:09,489
second or that Monday and the only

2034
01:33:09,489 --> 01:33:12,099
problem we foresee is take down has to

2035
01:33:12,099 --> 01:33:15,550
be on in one day on December the 6th

2036
01:33:15,550 --> 01:33:18,010
it's a Friday but we're gonna work

2037
01:33:18,010 --> 01:33:19,690
around that get as many people and

2038
01:33:19,690 --> 01:33:22,059
volunteers as possible to help us take

2039
01:33:22,059 --> 01:33:23,590
the stuff down and get it packed up and

2040
01:33:23,590 --> 01:33:26,920
out of there in one day but we're real

2041
01:33:26,920 --> 01:33:29,219
excited how things are coming I

2042
01:33:29,219 --> 01:33:33,880
think it'll be as good is not if not

2043
01:33:33,880 --> 01:33:36,610
better than it was last year I'll

2044
01:33:36,610 --> 01:33:38,039
entertain questions

2045
01:33:38,039 --> 01:33:41,440
later Ron thank you and we're all

2046
01:33:41,440 --> 01:33:42,849
excited about it and before I hand it

2047
01:33:42,849 --> 01:33:44,639
over I want to add

2048
01:33:44,639 --> 01:33:48,670
thanks to working with the scouts and

2049
01:33:48,670 --> 01:33:49,650
Public Works

2050
01:33:49,650 --> 01:33:52,059
in Fairview Park and making that part

2051
01:33:52,059 --> 01:33:54,249
happen as well and it is an official

2052
01:33:54,249 --> 01:33:57,340
city park and all the all that goes with

2053
01:33:57,340 --> 01:33:59,260
it and we really appreciate that that

2054
01:33:59,260 --> 01:34:01,979
y'all had a big hand in that as well so

2055
01:34:01,979 --> 01:34:04,059
starting left-side questions comments

2056
01:34:04,059 --> 01:34:07,449
for Parks yes this is not as premature

2057
01:34:07,449 --> 01:34:09,880
as it may seem but we have run into this

2058
01:34:09,880 --> 01:34:12,519
situation several years where we don't

2059
01:34:12,519 --> 01:34:15,219
know a lot of effort as we know to

2060
01:34:15,219 --> 01:34:18,039
create this wonderful spectacle and then

2061
01:34:18,039 --> 01:34:19,659
weren't asked to take it down in six

2062
01:34:19,659 --> 01:34:22,059
hours one morning and I would like to

2063
01:34:22,059 --> 01:34:23,949
suggest as I've done in the past not in

2064
01:34:23,949 --> 01:34:26,499
this forum but with miss Kane and and

2065
01:34:26,499 --> 01:34:28,929
other officials in previous years

2066
01:34:28,929 --> 01:34:31,119
community center is a community center I

2067
01:34:31,119 --> 01:34:33,369
think it's for the citizens and I see no

2068
01:34:33,369 --> 01:34:34,380
harm in

2069
01:34:34,380 --> 01:34:37,289
potentially reserving one

2070
01:34:37,289 --> 01:34:40,269
weekend a year for our citizens not

2071
01:34:40,269 --> 01:34:42,219
worried about reading it and we move our

2072
01:34:42,219 --> 01:34:44,469
parks tree-lighting to our Friday or

2073
01:34:44,469 --> 01:34:45,639
Saturday night we've got the whole darn

2074
01:34:45,639 --> 01:34:47,920
weekend I think I think just think it

2075
01:34:47,920 --> 01:34:49,900
would help all the intend ease I think

2076
01:34:49,900 --> 01:34:51,369
it would help we could even maybe expand

2077
01:34:51,369 --> 01:34:53,739
it to you know 9 o'clock if it's not not

2078
01:34:53,739 --> 01:34:55,539
on a school night I just think it would

2079
01:34:55,539 --> 01:34:57,579
help everybody around and I think it

2080
01:34:57,579 --> 01:34:59,650
would help with take down and so on not

2081
01:34:59,650 --> 01:35:01,179
unlike we deal with Paul Davis Park

2082
01:35:01,179 --> 01:35:03,280
where we reserved the whole park for

2083
01:35:03,280 --> 01:35:05,199
fourth of July and actually preceding

2084
01:35:05,199 --> 01:35:07,840
days or so for set up I think it's time

2085
01:35:07,840 --> 01:35:09,309
we consider that we know that it's a

2086
01:35:09,309 --> 01:35:11,530
successful event and as far as I know

2087
01:35:11,530 --> 01:35:14,400
it's gonna continue way into the future

2088
01:35:14,400 --> 01:35:17,619
and we also know that if we continue to

2089
01:35:17,619 --> 01:35:20,320
have it on Thursdays this is going to

2090
01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:22,989
conflict throughout 2020 we know that

2091
01:35:22,989 --> 01:35:25,209
the judges already Municipal Court will

2092
01:35:25,209 --> 01:35:27,760
conflict again next year as it will this

2093
01:35:27,760 --> 01:35:29,860
year so I would really like to get it on

2094
01:35:29,860 --> 01:35:33,130
the table now that we consider in the

2095
01:35:33,130 --> 01:35:35,199
near future and we just reserve that

2096
01:35:35,199 --> 01:35:40,059
weekend for our citizens thank you okay

2097
01:35:40,059 --> 01:35:41,320
and I'll answer that that we'll look at

2098
01:35:41,320 --> 01:35:43,030
that we need to make sure that before we

2099
01:35:43,030 --> 01:35:44,409
say oh yeah that's a great idea for next

2100
01:35:44,409 --> 01:35:46,300
year it isn't already reserved for next

2101
01:35:46,300 --> 01:35:49,059
year sometimes people will reserve a

2102
01:35:49,059 --> 01:35:52,659
year out for weddings or you know things

2103
01:35:52,659 --> 01:35:53,800
kind of things so we need to make sure

2104
01:35:53,800 --> 01:35:56,170
that it's it's not an issue so we will

2105
01:35:56,170 --> 01:35:57,849
look at it and we will come back and

2106
01:35:57,849 --> 01:36:01,540
report but you for the record you could

2107
01:36:01,540 --> 01:36:02,740
have said something we could have looked

2108
01:36:02,740 --> 01:36:05,080
at it before we walked in here so for

2109
01:36:05,080 --> 01:36:06,160
the record I just thought about it

2110
01:36:06,160 --> 01:36:09,040
because I found out just today I just

2111
01:36:09,040 --> 01:36:19,280
found out today that for third-year

2112
01:36:19,290 --> 01:36:22,600
okay well we will we will run this the

2113
01:36:22,600 --> 01:36:23,830
ground will talk will put on any Jenna

2114
01:36:23,830 --> 01:36:27,520
will talk about next time and I would

2115
01:36:27,520 --> 01:36:29,110
venture a guess that whoever's given the

2116
01:36:29,110 --> 01:36:30,550
information doesn't know that it's

2117
01:36:30,550 --> 01:36:33,310
quote-unquote false information so we'll

2118
01:36:33,310 --> 01:36:34,800
take a look at it okay

2119
01:36:34,800 --> 01:36:40,190
good okay

2120
01:36:40,200 --> 01:36:44,310
thank you and volunteer garden ridge

2121
01:36:44,310 --> 01:36:47,400
again to be succinct

2122
01:36:47,400 --> 01:36:49,170
the

2123
01:36:49,170 --> 01:36:52,950
outreach efforts that we've made

2124
01:36:52,950 --> 01:36:55,890
last month and over the last two months

2125
01:36:55,890 --> 01:36:59,260
haven't been as successful as I would

2126
01:36:59,260 --> 01:37:00,520
hope but we really haven't put a whole

2127
01:37:00,520 --> 01:37:01,750
lot of time into it because there's a

2128
01:37:01,750 --> 01:37:05,170
lot of conflicting pains going on in the

2129
01:37:05,170 --> 01:37:08,350
city and amongst amongst the people

2130
01:37:08,350 --> 01:37:10,660
running volunteer garden Ridge

2131
01:37:10,660 --> 01:37:13,210
we've had several nibbles if you will

2132
01:37:13,210 --> 01:37:15,910
and we need to follow up a little bit

2133
01:37:15,910 --> 01:37:18,700
and set the hook so to speak on the

2134
01:37:18,700 --> 01:37:21,670
other several nibbles that we had but

2135
01:37:21,670 --> 01:37:24,010
we've also had some ideas about how to

2136
01:37:24,010 --> 01:37:27,180
make it better and we'll try them

2137
01:37:27,180 --> 01:37:30,210
the problems we have with volunteer and

2138
01:37:30,210 --> 01:37:34,270
volunteerism are not unique to garden

2139
01:37:34,270 --> 01:37:36,790
rich I'm finding out it's hard to get

2140
01:37:36,790 --> 01:37:39,000
volunteers for everything

2141
01:37:39,000 --> 01:37:40,980
we'll keep trying

2142
01:37:40,980 --> 01:37:44,110
we appreciate that thank you and after

2143
01:37:44,110 --> 01:37:50,710
the dust settles out

2144
01:37:50,720 --> 01:37:55,370
[Music]

2145
01:37:55,380 --> 01:37:57,090
yeah

2146
01:37:57,090 --> 01:37:59,260
questions comments for volunteer guards

2147
01:37:59,260 --> 01:38:03,110
starting right beside

2148
01:38:03,120 --> 01:38:05,950
thank you sir moving on to propose

2149
01:38:05,950 --> 01:38:09,430
authorizations item number 10 a its

2150
01:38:09,430 --> 01:38:11,620
feral hogs the item is to review and

2151
01:38:11,620 --> 01:38:14,380
discuss proposal so first of all city

2152
01:38:14,380 --> 01:38:17,500
actions are our Animal Services and

2153
01:38:17,500 --> 01:38:19,480
Public Works and frankly everybody that

2154
01:38:19,480 --> 01:38:22,030
can help has been helping putting out

2155
01:38:22,030 --> 01:38:25,270
traps and pens and consulting with

2156
01:38:25,270 --> 01:38:33,610
trappers our our Public Works folks and particularly our Animal Services but

2157
01:38:33,610 --> 01:38:36,430
also our our Public Works Director have

2158
01:38:36,430 --> 01:38:39,100
talked to at least three trappers that I

2159
01:38:39,100 --> 01:38:41,380
know of asking them what are we doing

2160
01:38:41,380 --> 01:38:43,120
right what are we doing wrong what can

2161
01:38:43,120 --> 01:38:45,490
we do and the consensus of the trappers

2162
01:38:45,490 --> 01:38:47,340
is they would be doing the same thing

2163
01:38:47,340 --> 01:38:50,650
and they gave us some some tips on what

2164
01:38:50,650 --> 01:38:52,510
to do with the bait and how to make it

2165
01:38:52,510 --> 01:38:54,840
so it's not so attractive to deer and

2166
01:38:54,840 --> 01:38:57,610
one of them said that acorns which was

2167
01:38:57,610 --> 01:39:00,550
scoffed at on public in social media was

2168
01:39:00,550 --> 01:39:03,580
is actually kind of like cracked to a to

2169
01:39:03,580 --> 01:39:05,410
a hog apparently and that's why that

2170
01:39:05,410 --> 01:39:07,330
went out and some people have been

2171
01:39:07,330 --> 01:39:09,880
collecting that but nevertheless you

2172
01:39:09,880 --> 01:39:12,910
heard something that is is a common

2173
01:39:12,910 --> 01:39:17,290
comment with with trappers is they know

2174
01:39:17,290 --> 01:39:21,550
that when there's particularly a mom hog

2175
01:39:21,550 --> 01:39:25,030
in the group that's trap smart they'll

2176
01:39:25,030 --> 01:39:26,980
actually nudge away and push the other

2177
01:39:26,980 --> 01:39:29,650
hogs away from the trap it's it's crazy

2178
01:39:29,650 --> 01:39:31,480
to watch it on film and they really do

2179
01:39:31,480 --> 01:39:33,670
that they're that smart so that's one of

2180
01:39:33,670 --> 01:39:36,460
the things that we're up against but we

2181
01:39:36,460 --> 01:39:39,070
have we also have had some people

2182
01:39:39,070 --> 01:39:42,670
petitioned the city to authorize and I

2183
01:39:42,670 --> 01:39:45,180
won't do air quotes but I'll say quote

2184
01:39:45,180 --> 01:39:48,910
professionals to hunt in the in city

2185
01:39:48,910 --> 01:39:49,980
limits and

2186
01:39:49,980 --> 01:39:51,910
there's a couple of problems with that

2187
01:39:51,910 --> 01:39:53,860
one is there's no it's pretty loose

2188
01:39:53,860 --> 01:39:55,420
definition of what a professional is to

2189
01:39:55,420 --> 01:39:57,540
begin with but

2190
01:39:57,540 --> 01:40:01,660
moreover it's not just an issue of the

2191
01:40:01,660 --> 01:40:03,850
city ordinance saying that it's a

2192
01:40:03,850 --> 01:40:05,560
problem with hunting in the city but

2193
01:40:05,560 --> 01:40:07,240
it's a problem with the state saying

2194
01:40:07,240 --> 01:40:08,860
it's a problem with hunting in the city

2195
01:40:08,860 --> 01:40:11,559
and we've engaged with our attorney and

2196
01:40:11,559 --> 01:40:13,989
asked our attorney to analyze this you

2197
01:40:13,989 --> 01:40:18,249
were sent a letter on this so you would

2198
01:40:18,249 --> 01:40:19,840
be armed with the information understand

2199
01:40:19,840 --> 01:40:23,110
why it's it's a bridge that's

2200
01:40:23,110 --> 01:40:25,749
extraordinarily too far to allow

2201
01:40:25,749 --> 01:40:29,110
somebody to be hunting and in in our

2202
01:40:29,110 --> 01:40:31,689
neighborhoods but I'm gonna turn this

2203
01:40:31,689 --> 01:40:33,639
over to our attorney to ask her to

2204
01:40:33,639 --> 01:40:36,360
explain a little bit of that

2205
01:40:36,360 --> 01:40:38,889
so one of the things that we considered

2206
01:40:38,889 --> 01:40:40,689
was is there a possibility of just

2207
01:40:40,689 --> 01:40:44,079
rescinding the ordinance and then would

2208
01:40:44,079 --> 01:40:45,639
that give you know someone the right to

2209
01:40:45,639 --> 01:40:49,719
do this as we documented for you in the

2210
01:40:49,719 --> 01:40:51,699
memo it is a there is a penal code

2211
01:40:51,699 --> 01:40:54,630
violation under 4201

2212
01:40:54,630 --> 01:40:57,309
to allow that that type of discharge of

2213
01:40:57,309 --> 01:41:00,309
firearms within the city limits because

2214
01:41:00,309 --> 01:41:01,630
of the definitions the particular

2215
01:41:01,630 --> 01:41:03,280
definitions that apply to you the penal

2216
01:41:03,280 --> 01:41:05,189
code

2217
01:41:05,189 --> 01:41:07,179
there's a little bit of additional

2218
01:41:07,179 --> 01:41:08,769
research and I confirmed with Chief

2219
01:41:08,769 --> 01:41:11,709
shortly before the meeting and what we

2220
01:41:11,709 --> 01:41:13,389
can also confirm is not only is that

2221
01:41:13,389 --> 01:41:15,880
there that Penal Code definition in that

2222
01:41:15,880 --> 01:41:18,570
penal code violation which is a Class B

2223
01:41:18,570 --> 01:41:21,550
misdemeanor offense it is also a

2224
01:41:21,550 --> 01:41:23,380
violation of a separate chapter of the

2225
01:41:23,380 --> 01:41:26,229
penal code which is a felony offense and

2226
01:41:26,229 --> 01:41:29,559
so whatever the city does because there

2227
01:41:29,559 --> 01:41:31,989
is also the felony offense at play and

2228
01:41:31,989 --> 01:41:33,880
the potential for a felony offense at

2229
01:41:33,880 --> 01:41:36,639
play for discharge of a firearm within

2230
01:41:36,639 --> 01:41:38,920
city limits and the city has no

2231
01:41:38,920 --> 01:41:43,110
authority to to authorize that

2232
01:41:43,110 --> 01:41:45,639
kind of and they're going to I'll skip

2233
01:41:45,639 --> 01:41:47,709
the air quotes but no authority to

2234
01:41:47,709 --> 01:41:50,499
authorize that type of discharge within

2235
01:41:50,499 --> 01:41:52,019
the city limits

2236
01:41:52,019 --> 01:41:55,539
and and let me add she said discharge

2237
01:41:55,539 --> 01:41:57,729
firearm a couple of times but in the

2238
01:41:57,729 --> 01:41:59,139
note that you have you see that it

2239
01:41:59,139 --> 01:42:01,719
actually says or other weapon shotgun

2240
01:42:01,719 --> 01:42:04,630
air rifle pistol BB gun bow and arrow so

2241
01:42:04,630 --> 01:42:07,510
it it's all of that although the people

2242
01:42:07,510 --> 01:42:10,090
that don't Lee don't use these things

2243
01:42:10,090 --> 01:42:12,130
very much consider it all and they just

2244
01:42:12,130 --> 01:42:13,929
say discharge firearm but they're really

2245
01:42:13,929 --> 01:42:16,449
talking about all that stuff so that

2246
01:42:16,449 --> 01:42:19,950
said while our attorney has the floor to

2247
01:42:19,950 --> 01:42:22,260
offer if anybody has any questions about

2248
01:42:22,260 --> 01:42:25,680
this particular topic not about the hog

2249
01:42:25,680 --> 01:42:27,240
trapping or anything in general but just

2250
01:42:27,240 --> 01:42:30,420
about the memo you got and the idea of

2251
01:42:30,420 --> 01:42:32,370
allowing people to hunt in our city

2252
01:42:32,370 --> 01:42:34,110
starting the right side any comments or

2253
01:42:34,110 --> 01:42:34,710
questions

2254
01:42:34,710 --> 01:42:36,440
I

2255
01:42:36,440 --> 01:42:39,060
don't think hunting our city has any

2256
01:42:39,060 --> 01:42:41,550
place there's way to strap these hogs if

2257
01:42:41,550 --> 01:42:43,410
we get experienced people we can we

2258
01:42:43,410 --> 01:42:45,090
could do that successfully it's been

2259
01:42:45,090 --> 01:42:49,390
done I've done it myself before

2260
01:42:49,400 --> 01:42:52,820
ma'am no way

2261
01:42:52,820 --> 01:42:54,680
so then

2262
01:42:54,680 --> 01:42:57,390
taking this a step further as I said

2263
01:42:57,390 --> 01:42:59,970
we've been we've bought extra traps

2264
01:42:59,970 --> 01:43:01,470
we've been trying lots of different

2265
01:43:01,470 --> 01:43:05,100
things we're up against having some hogs

2266
01:43:05,100 --> 01:43:07,340
that are trap smart and

2267
01:43:07,340 --> 01:43:10,590
you know we're still trying to help then

2268
01:43:10,590 --> 01:43:14,880
so the next step is we we went to some

2269
01:43:14,880 --> 01:43:17,640
trappers and said what can you do if we

2270
01:43:17,640 --> 01:43:20,280
engaged your services to trap and I'd

2271
01:43:20,280 --> 01:43:21,600
like to turn this over to our city

2272
01:43:21,600 --> 01:43:23,970
administrator so she can explain some

2273
01:43:23,970 --> 01:43:27,710
discussions that she's had good I

2274
01:43:27,710 --> 01:43:29,510
spoke with

2275
01:43:29,510 --> 01:43:33,660
Ryan Murphy with RMH ranch or RMH

2276
01:43:33,660 --> 01:43:36,270
services they've done our did our deer

2277
01:43:36,270 --> 01:43:41,600
trapping this past year or past season

2278
01:43:41,600 --> 01:43:46,110
he has submitted a quote or an estimate

2279
01:43:46,110 --> 01:43:48,960
that would be initial trap setup and

2280
01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:52,500
takedown of $2,500 and then a weekly

2281
01:43:52,500 --> 01:43:55,890
trap capture capture fee with a two week

2282
01:43:55,890 --> 01:43:59,820
minimum of $500 per week what he would

2283
01:43:59,820 --> 01:44:04,440
be using is a trap that is similar to

2284
01:44:04,440 --> 01:44:07,200
what he used when he was trapping deer

2285
01:44:07,200 --> 01:44:09,530
but it would be smaller

2286
01:44:09,530 --> 01:44:12,360
if you remember the the sides are open

2287
01:44:12,360 --> 01:44:15,780
and it is electronically controlled when

2288
01:44:15,780 --> 01:44:19,680
he would see hogs in the trap then the

2289
01:44:19,680 --> 01:44:22,830
sides would go down and the pin would be

2290
01:44:22,830 --> 01:44:25,430
locked up upon

2291
01:44:25,430 --> 01:44:29,070
knowing that he had hogs in the trap he

2292
01:44:29,070 --> 01:44:31,980
would respond immediately he would load

2293
01:44:31,980 --> 01:44:34,650
the Hogs up and remove him out of the

2294
01:44:34,650 --> 01:44:37,050
city there would not be any shooting of

2295
01:44:37,050 --> 01:44:38,300
any hogs

2296
01:44:38,300 --> 01:44:42,150
in the city limits he would take him to

2297
01:44:42,150 --> 01:44:46,190
either a ranch who wants hogs or

2298
01:44:46,190 --> 01:44:48,989
donate them to someone who would process

2299
01:44:48,989 --> 01:44:53,270
the meat to feed the needy

2300
01:44:53,270 --> 01:44:58,170
so what we have is somebody that has an

2301
01:44:58,170 --> 01:45:01,680
alternative to the traps that hogs are

2302
01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:05,300
obviously trap smart to and

2303
01:45:05,300 --> 01:45:08,430
he we know him obviously he has a track

2304
01:45:08,430 --> 01:45:12,120
record with us and he this is his offer

2305
01:45:12,120 --> 01:45:14,640
to go ahead and do two weeks worth so

2306
01:45:14,640 --> 01:45:17,520
we're talking $3500 in a couple of weeks

2307
01:45:17,520 --> 01:45:19,950
to see if he can and and and what we've

2308
01:45:19,950 --> 01:45:21,930
been told by other trappers is if he

2309
01:45:21,930 --> 01:45:25,830
manages to get the those the mama hogs

2310
01:45:25,830 --> 01:45:28,050
at her trap smart all of a sudden we're

2311
01:45:28,050 --> 01:45:29,250
going to start catching other hogs and

2312
01:45:29,250 --> 01:45:30,540
our traps as well

2313
01:45:30,540 --> 01:45:32,760
no promises of course but that's that's

2314
01:45:32,760 --> 01:45:35,520
the way the conventional wisdom in hog

2315
01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:37,640
trapping so

2316
01:45:37,640 --> 01:45:42,600
what what we are proposing to do and for

2317
01:45:42,600 --> 01:45:44,810
your action tonight your your

2318
01:45:44,810 --> 01:45:47,489
consideration in action tonight is to

2319
01:45:47,489 --> 01:45:49,820
engage with with

2320
01:45:49,820 --> 01:45:51,530
RMH

2321
01:45:51,530 --> 01:45:56,030
exotics LLC LMNOP and

2322
01:45:56,030 --> 01:45:59,730
to go ahead and do this in gorge ranch

2323
01:45:59,730 --> 01:46:03,570
first now that said if this works and

2324
01:46:03,570 --> 01:46:07,170
works out well that also consider going

2325
01:46:07,170 --> 01:46:08,760
over to trophy oaks I don't want to

2326
01:46:08,760 --> 01:46:10,650
forget trophy Oaks you know you rewind a

2327
01:46:10,650 --> 01:46:12,030
couple of years and I stood in front of

2328
01:46:12,030 --> 01:46:14,100
our wildlife management committee and

2329
01:46:14,100 --> 01:46:16,860
said hey I know everybody's putting a

2330
01:46:16,860 --> 01:46:18,690
spotlight on deer but they're having a

2331
01:46:18,690 --> 01:46:20,010
problem in that neighborhood with hogs

2332
01:46:20,010 --> 01:46:23,120
and it's gonna get worse everywhere and

2333
01:46:23,120 --> 01:46:26,070
so this is something that I don't want

2334
01:46:26,070 --> 01:46:27,840
to forget about trophy Oaks as well but

2335
01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:29,880
I don't think it's I personally and

2336
01:46:29,880 --> 01:46:31,880
recommending to you that we don't go

2337
01:46:31,880 --> 01:46:35,239
whole hog on this and

2338
01:46:35,239 --> 01:46:37,530
do both neighborhoods all at once until

2339
01:46:37,530 --> 01:46:39,660
we see how this is working out and if

2340
01:46:39,660 --> 01:46:46,500
it's if it's effective so that said the action says take action proposed and

2341
01:46:46,500 --> 01:46:48,100
authorized city minutes to execute

2342
01:46:48,100 --> 01:46:52,240
documents so Swee the services so I'll emphasize that what I'm asking you

2343
01:46:52,240 --> 01:46:54,460
to do is to consider authorizing our

2344
01:46:54,460 --> 01:46:57,300
city administrator to to

2345
01:46:57,300 --> 01:47:01,090
contract on behalf of the city with Ryan

2346
01:47:01,090 --> 01:47:03,850
Murphy for what you see here for two

2347
01:47:03,850 --> 01:47:05,890
weeks see how it's going and see if we

2348
01:47:05,890 --> 01:47:07,840
need to do it any further but also if

2349
01:47:07,840 --> 01:47:10,360
it's working out there to also bring it

2350
01:47:10,360 --> 01:47:12,550
over to the trophy oaks and try to get

2351
01:47:12,550 --> 01:47:13,800
some of the Hogs that are over there and

2352
01:47:13,800 --> 01:47:17,980
to put a bound on it I'd say that the

2353
01:47:17,980 --> 01:47:20,470
you know we we have the wildlife

2354
01:47:20,470 --> 01:47:23,710
management Advisory Commission money and

2355
01:47:23,710 --> 01:47:26,650
it's for the deer we never use all of

2356
01:47:26,650 --> 01:47:28,030
that what we put it in there but I think

2357
01:47:28,030 --> 01:47:30,850
it would be prudent for us to say not to

2358
01:47:30,850 --> 01:47:32,530
exceed ten thousand dollars of that of

2359
01:47:32,530 --> 01:47:36,040
the money that's in there and I will

2360
01:47:36,040 --> 01:47:38,830
tell you that we probably will most

2361
01:47:38,830 --> 01:47:40,630
likely will not use all that money on

2362
01:47:40,630 --> 01:47:43,570
the deer anyway so my recommendation for

2363
01:47:43,570 --> 01:47:46,170
you to consider is to give her a give

2364
01:47:46,170 --> 01:47:48,640
our city administrator the authorisation

2365
01:47:48,640 --> 01:47:51,130
to execute these contracts to first

2366
01:47:51,130 --> 01:47:53,770
start with with George ranch if it's

2367
01:47:53,770 --> 01:47:55,390
working out well go to trophy oaks and

2368
01:47:55,390 --> 01:47:57,220
to not exceed ten thousand dollars

2369
01:47:57,220 --> 01:47:58,920
without coming back to you

2370
01:47:58,920 --> 01:48:01,090
comments questions starting on the left

2371
01:48:01,090 --> 01:48:05,320
side yes does he have to get a permit

2372
01:48:05,320 --> 01:48:07,870
for this no no they're not there they're

2373
01:48:07,870 --> 01:48:10,180
not game animals there you're not

2374
01:48:10,180 --> 01:48:12,430
they're not game animal so okay Texas

2375
01:48:12,430 --> 01:48:14,950
Parks and Wildlife okay

2376
01:48:14,950 --> 01:48:17,020
I don't know if it's relevant to anyone

2377
01:48:17,020 --> 01:48:18,940
else or whatever but I personally I'm in

2378
01:48:18,940 --> 01:48:21,370
favor of it actually been favorite

2379
01:48:21,370 --> 01:48:23,310
instead of the deer but

2380
01:48:23,310 --> 01:48:27,100
would he be willing to provide the

2381
01:48:27,100 --> 01:48:29,650
ultimate destination what do you share

2382
01:48:29,650 --> 01:48:32,500
that with us just so we know if we're

2383
01:48:32,500 --> 01:48:34,300
feeding or we're stocking somebody's

2384
01:48:34,300 --> 01:48:35,730
game ranch

2385
01:48:35,730 --> 01:48:38,530
can we ask him to provide that I don't

2386
01:48:38,530 --> 01:48:40,330
see why not I don't think it's not make

2387
01:48:40,330 --> 01:48:42,730
it part of the discussion because nobody

2388
01:48:42,730 --> 01:48:44,410
really cared but yeah if you care we'll

2389
01:48:44,410 --> 01:48:47,650
see what we do so we'll ask yes I think

2390
01:48:47,650 --> 01:48:48,880
anything else nope

2391
01:48:48,880 --> 01:48:51,620
[Music]

2392
01:48:51,620 --> 01:48:54,410
yeah we got to get it figured out by the

2393
01:48:54,410 --> 01:48:57,110
way this is a lot bigger deal than just

2394
01:48:57,110 --> 01:48:58,900
the city of garden Ridge

2395
01:48:58,900 --> 01:49:00,770
people want to blame the high school

2396
01:49:00,770 --> 01:49:02,120
they want to blame the Vista Bridgewater

2397
01:49:02,120 --> 01:49:03,890
pipeline the fact of the matter is it's

2398
01:49:03,890 --> 01:49:06,040
a statewide problem

2399
01:49:06,040 --> 01:49:08,120
and I think some of the people that are

2400
01:49:08,120 --> 01:49:09,410
really concerned about it myself

2401
01:49:09,410 --> 01:49:11,060
included need to start to engage with

2402
01:49:11,060 --> 01:49:14,120
tpw about how we're gonna deal with it I

2403
01:49:14,120 --> 01:49:16,070
have an access I have access to a

2404
01:49:16,070 --> 01:49:18,560
hunting lease that's quite close to the

2405
01:49:18,560 --> 01:49:19,940
city Garden Ridge with outside the city

2406
01:49:19,940 --> 01:49:22,670
limits and I saw a sounder of hogs last

2407
01:49:22,670 --> 01:49:25,360
weekend that was over 70

2408
01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:27,650
and I couldn't get a clear shot out of

2409
01:49:27,650 --> 01:49:29,360
and I'll admit it because they were in

2410
01:49:29,360 --> 01:49:30,250
the brush

2411
01:49:30,250 --> 01:49:32,390
so that's giving you an idea something

2412
01:49:32,390 --> 01:49:33,560
of what's going on out there and I've

2413
01:49:33,560 --> 01:49:35,000
never seen that before so this is

2414
01:49:35,000 --> 01:49:40,140
absolutely insane

2415
01:49:40,150 --> 01:49:43,730
that said this trying to figure this out

2416
01:49:43,730 --> 01:49:45,230
has got to be our priority of if it

2417
01:49:45,230 --> 01:49:47,390
means cutting back on deer trapping all

2418
01:49:47,390 --> 01:49:50,090
those kind of things it they are far

2419
01:49:50,090 --> 01:49:51,730
more destructive and far more dangerous

2420
01:49:51,730 --> 01:49:54,770
and that needs to be our priority so I'd

2421
01:49:54,770 --> 01:49:57,230
love to see this work and maybe it's

2422
01:49:57,230 --> 01:49:58,580
something we can get to the state of

2423
01:49:58,580 --> 01:50:00,800
Texas to help out I don't know just

2424
01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:02,800
musing out loud here

2425
01:50:02,800 --> 01:50:05,110
comments questions

2426
01:50:05,110 --> 01:50:07,940
councilmen Bauer there is no ranch in

2427
01:50:07,940 --> 01:50:11,030
the state of Texas gonna set hogs that's

2428
01:50:11,030 --> 01:50:13,520
they've got enough of their own I'm only

2429
01:50:13,520 --> 01:50:15,080
doing they will they will shoot them

2430
01:50:15,080 --> 01:50:17,300
just like we should be shooting them as

2431
01:50:17,300 --> 01:50:18,920
soon as they leave the city limits so

2432
01:50:18,920 --> 01:50:20,650
only asking

2433
01:50:20,650 --> 01:50:23,350
that's

2434
01:50:23,350 --> 01:50:26,890
now my biggest concern right now is

2435
01:50:26,890 --> 01:50:31,010
the Hogs have moved on we cannot attract

2436
01:50:31,010 --> 01:50:32,990
those hogs back here it sits there

2437
01:50:32,990 --> 01:50:35,240
that's their pattern that will bring

2438
01:50:35,240 --> 01:50:37,340
them back so do we set up these pens

2439
01:50:37,340 --> 01:50:39,140
right now and hope for the best

2440
01:50:39,140 --> 01:50:42,770
or do we pay $500 a week and not catch

2441
01:50:42,770 --> 01:50:44,420
anything for the next month or two until

2442
01:50:44,420 --> 01:50:46,610
their pattern comes back this way again

2443
01:50:46,610 --> 01:50:49,040
they're gone from here right now they're

2444
01:50:49,040 --> 01:50:50,540
not going to come back because we start

2445
01:50:50,540 --> 01:50:53,240
feeding they're off doing something else

2446
01:50:53,240 --> 01:50:55,730
so we have to concern ourselves with in

2447
01:50:55,730 --> 01:50:58,400
it and if they're gonna charge us 500

2448
01:50:58,400 --> 01:51:01,780
dollars a week does that

2449
01:51:01,780 --> 01:51:03,860
include a guarantee that they're gonna

2450
01:51:03,860 --> 01:51:06,490
catch leaves catch some hog

2451
01:51:06,490 --> 01:51:09,140
no there was no guarantee em okay well

2452
01:51:09,140 --> 01:51:10,340
then uh we are did I take a real hard

2453
01:51:10,340 --> 01:51:12,110
look at what no they're good I mean

2454
01:51:12,110 --> 01:51:15,140
they'll be able to do it a pen like they

2455
01:51:15,140 --> 01:51:16,820
have that's actually a short one so the

2456
01:51:16,820 --> 01:51:19,010
deer can jump out is is probably the

2457
01:51:19,010 --> 01:51:22,250
best way to to get a number of hogs at

2458
01:51:22,250 --> 01:51:26,330
one time but I think we're a little bit

2459
01:51:26,330 --> 01:51:29,980
premature if the dogs are not here now

2460
01:51:29,980 --> 01:51:33,020
that's my thought yeah the the they're

2461
01:51:33,020 --> 01:51:35,090
obviously the reason why they're that

2462
01:51:35,090 --> 01:51:37,190
we're not seeing as many is because now

2463
01:51:37,190 --> 01:51:40,070
there's water that's been rainin there's

2464
01:51:40,070 --> 01:51:42,650
water there's greenery there's there's

2465
01:51:42,650 --> 01:51:44,300
something for them to eat and drink

2466
01:51:44,300 --> 01:51:47,210
that's not in the lush green yard so

2467
01:51:47,210 --> 01:51:50,150
yeah we're not seeing as many of them we

2468
01:51:50,150 --> 01:51:52,160
can research that and see if they if

2469
01:51:52,160 --> 01:51:53,510
we're not seeing any at all then maybe

2470
01:51:53,510 --> 01:51:55,010
we shouldn't be doing this I don't know

2471
01:51:55,010 --> 01:51:57,620
I first a trophy Oaks we have not seen a

2472
01:51:57,620 --> 01:51:59,300
hog in that neighborhood for about two

2473
01:51:59,300 --> 01:52:02,570
years that's not know I do know that my

2474
01:52:02,570 --> 01:52:04,970
friend Dale and everybody knows him has

2475
01:52:04,970 --> 01:52:07,760
had his mulch fluffed up but I don't

2476
01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:09,260
think there's been any damages well

2477
01:52:09,260 --> 01:52:12,320
we've caught hogs out right outside and

2478
01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:14,270
the entrance and I mean that's what that

2479
01:52:14,270 --> 01:52:16,280
pen is is to try to prevent him from

2480
01:52:16,280 --> 01:52:18,470
getting into the neighborhood so and we

2481
01:52:18,470 --> 01:52:22,790
have caught hogs there yes yes mr.

2482
01:52:22,790 --> 01:52:24,770
Simonds how how recent do you happen to

2483
01:52:24,770 --> 01:52:28,950
know if top of your head

2484
01:52:28,960 --> 01:52:32,510
he's off mic but he said September yeah

2485
01:52:32,510 --> 01:52:34,010
I know that we've caught we've got some

2486
01:52:34,010 --> 01:52:35,500
just recently yeah

2487
01:52:35,500 --> 01:52:38,510
and and that's the the pen that's kind

2488
01:52:38,510 --> 01:52:39,910
of the

2489
01:52:39,910 --> 01:52:42,200
mitigation pen to try to keep him from

2490
01:52:42,200 --> 01:52:44,360
going into that neighborhood from from

2491
01:52:44,360 --> 01:52:46,360
the quarry area

2492
01:52:46,360 --> 01:52:48,620
so what no you bring up a good point and

2493
01:52:48,620 --> 01:52:50,990
I and I I don't know I don't know if

2494
01:52:50,990 --> 01:52:53,050
they're gone for good

2495
01:52:53,050 --> 01:52:55,130
well I don't mean gone for good for the

2496
01:52:55,130 --> 01:52:56,930
I mean gone for good for wow it's

2497
01:52:56,930 --> 01:52:59,990
raining and Wow you know our green yards

2498
01:52:59,990 --> 01:53:04,340
are not much is it attractant to him but

2499
01:53:04,340 --> 01:53:09,700
we can find out

2500
01:53:09,710 --> 01:53:13,380
all I was going to add is when I spoke

2501
01:53:13,380 --> 01:53:15,060
with mr. Murphy he asked when the last

2502
01:53:15,060 --> 01:53:17,720
time we saw the Hogs I let him know

2503
01:53:17,720 --> 01:53:20,610
he said they will be back once it gets

2504
01:53:20,610 --> 01:53:25,530
cold and the the vegetation starts dying

2505
01:53:25,530 --> 01:53:28,710
off they're going to probably come back

2506
01:53:28,710 --> 01:53:31,070
in where there's still some vegetation

2507
01:53:31,070 --> 01:53:34,960
within the city I

2508
01:53:34,970 --> 01:53:38,370
had the same concerns as Brian on timing

2509
01:53:38,370 --> 01:53:40,950
and guarantee I mean I'd hate first to

2510
01:53:40,950 --> 01:53:45,210
put it out you know spend $3,500 and our

2511
01:53:45,210 --> 01:53:47,850
timing be all off and not catch any the

2512
01:53:47,850 --> 01:53:49,740
Hogs so I mean I thought that's part of

2513
01:53:49,740 --> 01:53:53,410
my concern and I guess longer-term

2514
01:53:53,420 --> 01:53:56,160
do we just keep catching honks I mean

2515
01:53:56,160 --> 01:53:57,810
catching more honks I mean how do we

2516
01:53:57,810 --> 01:53:59,700
prevent the Hogs I mean I know there's

2517
01:53:59,700 --> 01:54:02,640
been some talk about fencing and George

2518
01:54:02,640 --> 01:54:04,740
ranch I mean not that's not a city issue

2519
01:54:04,740 --> 01:54:07,430
per se but

2520
01:54:07,430 --> 01:54:12,520
where does it end

2521
01:54:12,530 --> 01:54:15,990
like Todd said he saw 75 in one group

2522
01:54:15,990 --> 01:54:18,390
and they multiplied every female

2523
01:54:18,390 --> 01:54:21,150
multiplies it at least twice a year if

2524
01:54:21,150 --> 01:54:23,340
not three and they'll have between 8 and

2525
01:54:23,340 --> 01:54:25,620
10 babies and it takes them about those

2526
01:54:25,620 --> 01:54:27,270
babies about 9 months before they could

2527
01:54:27,270 --> 01:54:29,550
start having their own so the numbers I

2528
01:54:29,550 --> 01:54:31,040
mean you can

2529
01:54:31,040 --> 01:54:34,410
amazing what you can come up with so you

2530
01:54:34,410 --> 01:54:36,150
talk to a rancher or you talk to a

2531
01:54:36,150 --> 01:54:37,770
farmer that has this problem and they

2532
01:54:37,770 --> 01:54:38,850
don't go well I'm not going to kill them

2533
01:54:38,850 --> 01:54:41,540
because where does it end they kill them

2534
01:54:41,540 --> 01:54:45,490
it's just

2535
01:54:45,500 --> 01:54:47,670
maybe the long term as we keep killing

2536
01:54:47,670 --> 01:54:48,410
them

2537
01:54:48,410 --> 01:54:53,040
I did a little research on it TPWD right

2538
01:54:53,040 --> 01:54:54,900
now is saying that if you bring ten hogs

2539
01:54:54,900 --> 01:54:56,820
into the room right now to keep the

2540
01:54:56,820 --> 01:54:59,280
population where it's at currently you

2541
01:54:59,280 --> 01:55:01,950
got to take out seven over yeah a 70%

2542
01:55:01,950 --> 01:55:04,740
rate that's ridiculous now I had a

2543
01:55:04,740 --> 01:55:06,180
question I'm sorry I'm going on a turn

2544
01:55:06,180 --> 01:55:07,500
here a little yeah so we'll come back to

2545
01:55:07,500 --> 01:55:10,660
you okay

2546
01:55:10,670 --> 01:55:14,580
as far as the timing of it I think we

2547
01:55:14,580 --> 01:55:17,370
can leave it to Ryan Murphy to put him

2548
01:55:17,370 --> 01:55:20,010
out when he thinks the best time one

2549
01:55:20,010 --> 01:55:24,310
thing that did I was thinking about

2550
01:55:24,310 --> 01:55:26,870
I've got a lease and every once in a

2551
01:55:26,870 --> 01:55:29,630
while you know I meet this guy it's got

2552
01:55:29,630 --> 01:55:33,340
corn and but it's out in the country and

2553
01:55:33,340 --> 01:55:36,340
I'll throw vegetables

2554
01:55:36,340 --> 01:55:42,200
apples whatever to vary the the diet and

2555
01:55:42,200 --> 01:55:43,630
it they

2556
01:55:43,630 --> 01:55:46,100
they're I guess it's like trick or treat

2557
01:55:46,100 --> 01:55:48,790
they come back to see what they can find

2558
01:55:48,790 --> 01:55:51,140
because I've had pretty good success

2559
01:55:51,140 --> 01:55:53,920
freshly with the Hogs but

2560
01:55:53,920 --> 01:55:58,250
you know one citizen mentioned acorns

2561
01:55:58,250 --> 01:56:00,500
and we got some acorns over there and

2562
01:56:00,500 --> 01:56:02,870
we've got a whole lot of pumpkins we

2563
01:56:02,870 --> 01:56:04,520
could use and I've got some leftover

2564
01:56:04,520 --> 01:56:05,960
Snickers that we could use I know

2565
01:56:05,960 --> 01:56:07,510
they'll love those

2566
01:56:07,510 --> 01:56:10,750
but I think I

2567
01:56:10,750 --> 01:56:13,040
would be really interested in working

2568
01:56:13,040 --> 01:56:14,930
with him and just let him use his

2569
01:56:14,930 --> 01:56:17,360
judgment because it's obviously better

2570
01:56:17,360 --> 01:56:19,620
than most of ours

2571
01:56:19,620 --> 01:56:21,010
[Music]

2572
01:56:21,010 --> 01:56:23,720
okay so reattached starting left side

2573
01:56:23,720 --> 01:56:26,590
anybody good

2574
01:56:26,590 --> 01:56:28,820
I'm kind of with what John was asking

2575
01:56:28,820 --> 01:56:30,620
I'm wondering how responsive can he be

2576
01:56:30,620 --> 01:56:32,150
did we wait till the next time we see

2577
01:56:32,150 --> 01:56:33,470
hogs in the city and he comes out the

2578
01:56:33,470 --> 01:56:35,750
next day and pops traps up I don't know

2579
01:56:35,750 --> 01:56:37,460
if he's that responsive that's really my

2580
01:56:37,460 --> 01:56:40,290
question I

2581
01:56:40,300 --> 01:56:43,640
would ask that question yeah clearly

2582
01:56:43,640 --> 01:56:45,080
she's not representing him she doesn't

2583
01:56:45,080 --> 01:56:46,239
know

2584
01:56:46,239 --> 01:56:52,989
anything else sir yeah okay so what

2585
01:56:52,989 --> 01:56:55,580
going to item number two what does

2586
01:56:55,580 --> 01:57:02,450
council want to do

2587
01:57:02,460 --> 01:57:04,860
like I

2588
01:57:04,860 --> 01:57:07,660
think we ought to probably go ahead and

2589
01:57:07,660 --> 01:57:10,290
ask him to put up these pens

2590
01:57:10,290 --> 01:57:13,870
he can keep them with corn in them again

2591
01:57:13,870 --> 01:57:17,530
if they're low Pence one hog panel high

2592
01:57:17,530 --> 01:57:19,930
then the deer can jump out and when he

2593
01:57:19,930 --> 01:57:23,020
sees them starting to accumulate hogs in

2594
01:57:23,020 --> 01:57:26,410
them and started back up again but and

2595
01:57:26,410 --> 01:57:27,880
just leave them open leave they leave

2596
01:57:27,880 --> 01:57:28,860
the door open

2597
01:57:28,860 --> 01:57:32,070
until we started having hogs come in

2598
01:57:32,070 --> 01:57:37,140
okay so but no motion don't kick in the

2599
01:57:37,140 --> 01:57:39,400
$500 a week until we know we have the

2600
01:57:39,400 --> 01:57:41,370
hog sure back

2601
01:57:41,370 --> 01:57:45,090
okay so what's your motion

2602
01:57:45,090 --> 01:57:48,160
does anybody have emotional where am I

2603
01:57:48,160 --> 01:57:50,320
going to move on to item number 10 be go

2604
01:57:50,320 --> 01:57:52,930
ahead then list him to set up the pins

2605
01:57:52,930 --> 01:57:54,969
at this point and then ask him what he

2606
01:57:54,969 --> 01:57:56,070
thinks about

2607
01:57:56,070 --> 01:57:58,750
when he's gonna start charges and we

2608
01:57:58,750 --> 01:58:00,190
know not gonna pay until we start seeing

2609
01:58:00,190 --> 01:58:02,040
hallelujah

2610
01:58:02,040 --> 01:58:04,960
okay so really or is it you're not

2611
01:58:04,960 --> 01:58:06,550
really emotion it's not and also you're

2612
01:58:06,550 --> 01:58:08,110
making an assumption that he's willing

2613
01:58:08,110 --> 01:58:10,660
to set up the pens and then not start

2614
01:58:10,660 --> 01:58:12,390
the $500 a week

2615
01:58:12,390 --> 01:58:15,460
and that's a pretty substantial fee for

2616
01:58:15,460 --> 01:58:18,480
setting up a pen I agree but

2617
01:58:18,480 --> 01:58:20,770
he didn't split it out and say then he

2618
01:58:20,770 --> 01:58:23,260
wasn't gonna do anything so he said he

2619
01:58:23,260 --> 01:58:25,000
wanted a two-week minimum once he put

2620
01:58:25,000 --> 01:58:28,050
the pens up is what it is

2621
01:58:28,050 --> 01:58:32,199
so again what do y'all want to do wasn't

2622
01:58:32,199 --> 01:58:34,210
the issue to authorize Nancy to

2623
01:58:34,210 --> 01:58:36,910
negotiate with him yes okay the correct

2624
01:58:36,910 --> 01:58:38,890
that we authorized the city

2625
01:58:38,890 --> 01:58:44,640
administrator Nancy came to negotiate

2626
01:58:44,640 --> 01:58:46,980
putting up hog traps

2627
01:58:46,980 --> 01:58:50,320
okay does that cover it it sort of but I

2628
01:58:50,320 --> 01:58:52,120
also want to talk about because you've

2629
01:58:52,120 --> 01:58:54,640
got the authority on the money as well

2630
01:58:54,640 --> 01:58:57,160
so what I suggested was putting a cap

2631
01:58:57,160 --> 01:58:58,270
and saying it was coming from the

2632
01:58:58,270 --> 01:59:00,040
wildlife management Advisory Commission

2633
01:59:00,040 --> 01:59:01,650
budget

2634
01:59:01,650 --> 01:59:04,150
okay I have no fat I have no problem

2635
01:59:04,150 --> 01:59:06,160
doing that but I think we ought to table

2636
01:59:06,160 --> 01:59:08,620
this until Nancy gets taku okay so we're

2637
01:59:08,620 --> 01:59:14,370
gonna wait another month yes

2638
01:59:14,380 --> 01:59:17,900
okay that's what one council person says

2639
01:59:17,900 --> 01:59:21,130
so what does council want I

2640
01:59:21,130 --> 01:59:25,519
think we need to talk authorised Nancy

2641
01:59:25,519 --> 01:59:28,610
to do it with limit of let's say no more

2642
01:59:28,610 --> 01:59:30,889
than ten thousand dollars but it doesn't

2643
01:59:30,889 --> 01:59:35,370
have to be done tomorrow or next week

2644
01:59:35,380 --> 01:59:39,170
she's done a lot of negotiating some

2645
01:59:39,170 --> 01:59:42,769
sure she's tough but what I'd like to do

2646
01:59:42,769 --> 01:59:43,869
is leave it

2647
01:59:43,869 --> 01:59:48,500
with her and Ryan to set them up when

2648
01:59:48,500 --> 01:59:51,289
they think is the best time to do it we

2649
01:59:51,289 --> 01:59:54,130
can go more than a ten thousand dollar

2650
01:59:54,130 --> 01:59:57,380
maximum so is what is your motion to

2651
01:59:57,380 --> 01:59:59,599
allow her to negotiate yes to use ten

2652
01:59:59,599 --> 02:00:00,949
thousand dollars out of the wildlife

2653
02:00:00,949 --> 02:00:02,869
management advisory commission budget

2654
02:00:02,869 --> 02:00:07,130
something like that yes yes okay good so

2655
02:00:07,130 --> 02:00:08,929
that's what I have promotion authorized

2656
02:00:08,929 --> 02:00:11,389
City Administrator to work with RMH

2657
02:00:11,389 --> 02:00:13,840
exotics to

2658
02:00:13,840 --> 02:00:17,300
determine when the best time is to put

2659
02:00:17,300 --> 02:00:19,639
these traps up and put some traps up and

2660
02:00:19,639 --> 02:00:22,670
to not exceed ten thousand dollars using

2661
02:00:22,670 --> 02:00:24,829
it out of the wild night budget can I

2662
02:00:24,829 --> 02:00:29,449
get a second place to the second now um

2663
02:00:29,449 --> 02:00:31,730
further discussion one thing I want to

2664
02:00:31,730 --> 02:00:33,889
say is thank you for the vote of

2665
02:00:33,889 --> 02:00:35,989
confidence to our city administrator

2666
02:00:35,989 --> 02:00:39,320
about the negotiation and fact is this

2667
02:00:39,320 --> 02:00:41,360
is not his regular price she's already

2668
02:00:41,360 --> 02:00:43,750
negotiated it down to this

2669
02:00:43,750 --> 02:00:45,949
because we already do business with him

2670
02:00:45,949 --> 02:00:49,300
etc etc so yeah he normally charges

2671
02:00:49,300 --> 02:00:52,880
considerably more to do this yes astute

2672
02:00:52,880 --> 02:00:56,269
observation she is she is skilled at

2673
02:00:56,269 --> 02:00:58,730
negotiating and she did exactly that on

2674
02:00:58,730 --> 02:01:00,349
behalf of the city so I have a motion

2675
02:01:00,349 --> 02:01:03,380
place four and a second from place two

2676
02:01:03,380 --> 02:01:05,480
any further discussion starting left

2677
02:01:05,480 --> 02:01:09,640
side

2678
02:01:09,650 --> 02:01:12,590
[Music]

2679
02:01:12,590 --> 02:01:16,200
okay all in favor of authorizing city

2680
02:01:16,200 --> 02:01:19,410
administrator to to work this and to

2681
02:01:19,410 --> 02:01:22,020
execute this with our mhm exotics not to

2682
02:01:22,020 --> 02:01:25,140
exceed $10,000 how I might buzz it say

2683
02:01:25,140 --> 02:01:27,580
aye

2684
02:01:27,590 --> 02:01:31,770
and any opposed it was unanimous thank

2685
02:01:31,770 --> 02:01:33,870
you very much and we'll keep you posted

2686
02:01:33,870 --> 02:01:36,500
okay moving on to item 10

2687
02:01:36,500 --> 02:01:40,170
b1 its discussion take action and

2688
02:01:40,170 --> 02:01:41,520
possible retention of a public

2689
02:01:41,520 --> 02:01:45,090
information officer okay so bringing you

2690
02:01:45,090 --> 02:01:48,000
this not necessarily for action right

2691
02:01:48,000 --> 02:01:50,400
now but more of a discussion and to see

2692
02:01:50,400 --> 02:01:52,650
if you want us to continue in this

2693
02:01:52,650 --> 02:01:55,230
direction we are having lots of issues

2694
02:01:55,230 --> 02:01:58,760
with with

2695
02:01:58,760 --> 02:02:02,010
stuff going out on social media people

2696
02:02:02,010 --> 02:02:04,020
engaging the the print and news

2697
02:02:04,020 --> 02:02:06,600
different news media that we have to

2698
02:02:06,600 --> 02:02:10,860
answer questions that that are based on

2699
02:02:10,860 --> 02:02:13,430
a whole lot of misinformation

2700
02:02:13,430 --> 02:02:16,650
you know we have we if we had a public

2701
02:02:16,650 --> 02:02:19,320
information person whether it was

2702
02:02:19,320 --> 02:02:21,870
part-time or contractor part-time you

2703
02:02:21,870 --> 02:02:23,460
know like a half time kind of person we

2704
02:02:23,460 --> 02:02:25,320
don't have to do we it would we could

2705
02:02:25,320 --> 02:02:26,610
afford something like that in the budget

2706
02:02:26,610 --> 02:02:28,800
a full-time person is another story but

2707
02:02:28,800 --> 02:02:32,250
or even a contractor that we could do

2708
02:02:32,250 --> 02:02:35,970
things like when when you I don't know

2709
02:02:35,970 --> 02:02:37,080
if you're aware of this but you all got

2710
02:02:37,080 --> 02:02:38,670
beat up because you didn't want to hear

2711
02:02:38,670 --> 02:02:41,630
from your constituents in the city

2712
02:02:41,630 --> 02:02:44,700
because people were writing to you based

2713
02:02:44,700 --> 02:02:46,470
on what somebody put on social media

2714
02:02:46,470 --> 02:02:47,670
there's your email address and it was

2715
02:02:47,670 --> 02:02:50,400
wrong email address and finally somebody

2716
02:02:50,400 --> 02:02:51,840
realized it was the wrong email address

2717
02:02:51,840 --> 02:02:54,180
but if we had a Pio so that person could

2718
02:02:54,180 --> 02:02:55,260
intervene right then and say hey

2719
02:02:55,260 --> 02:02:56,940
everybody that's the wrong email address

2720
02:02:56,940 --> 02:02:58,650
don't be don't be saying that they don't

2721
02:02:58,650 --> 02:03:00,120
want to hear from you they just using

2722
02:03:00,120 --> 02:03:02,430
the wrong email address so there's lots

2723
02:03:02,430 --> 02:03:05,430
of situations incidents that I could

2724
02:03:05,430 --> 02:03:07,800
bring up anecdotally but the fact of the

2725
02:03:07,800 --> 02:03:10,710
matter is is it's maybe time for us to

2726
02:03:10,710 --> 02:03:12,540
consider having somebody help us with

2727
02:03:12,540 --> 02:03:14,520
the message as well as the delivery as

2728
02:03:14,520 --> 02:03:16,560
well as addressing social media and

2729
02:03:16,560 --> 02:03:17,870
social media

2730
02:03:17,870 --> 02:03:20,340
I want to call it fake news but

2731
02:03:20,340 --> 02:03:26,030
inaccuracies and all of those kind of things so again

2732
02:03:26,030 --> 02:03:29,360
this is not to necessarily do any

2733
02:03:29,360 --> 02:03:32,239
contracting or hiring or anything but I

2734
02:03:32,239 --> 02:03:34,670
just wanted to get that bring this out

2735
02:03:34,670 --> 02:03:37,640
for a discussion because we can't talk

2736
02:03:37,640 --> 02:03:38,930
about this any other time than in the

2737
02:03:38,930 --> 02:03:41,180
meeting so I wanted to kind of throw

2738
02:03:41,180 --> 02:03:43,940
that that Chum out and then see what you

2739
02:03:43,940 --> 02:03:46,640
all think about what we could do and

2740
02:03:46,640 --> 02:03:49,220
then we will move if you want us to and

2741
02:03:49,220 --> 02:03:50,720
it doesn't have to be a vote it can be a

2742
02:03:50,720 --> 02:03:53,660
consensus we can move excuse-me forward

2743
02:03:53,660 --> 02:03:56,510
with some more information options bring

2744
02:03:56,510 --> 02:03:58,700
back to you next month so starting over

2745
02:03:58,700 --> 02:04:03,280
on the right side thoughts on this

2746
02:04:03,280 --> 02:04:06,350
well I've got mixed feelings on it

2747
02:04:06,350 --> 02:04:09,710
theoretically we shouldn't need it but

2748
02:04:09,710 --> 02:04:12,190
the frustration is that

2749
02:04:12,190 --> 02:04:17,590
there is so much misinformation and

2750
02:04:17,590 --> 02:04:21,070
one you know they're there all kinds of

2751
02:04:21,070 --> 02:04:23,690
examples so I won't go into them because

2752
02:04:23,690 --> 02:04:26,800
I think most of you have heard them but

2753
02:04:26,800 --> 02:04:31,400
I'm I'm not opposed I just don't like us

2754
02:04:31,400 --> 02:04:35,640
having to do it

2755
02:04:35,650 --> 02:04:38,660
any and and while you're and I'm really

2756
02:04:38,660 --> 02:04:40,880
very interested in what all of you think

2757
02:04:40,880 --> 02:04:43,280
about the approach on whether you know

2758
02:04:43,280 --> 02:04:46,670
we try to do contractor or we do a

2759
02:04:46,670 --> 02:04:49,190
part-time person again we won't be able

2760
02:04:49,190 --> 02:04:51,260
to not in the budget right now to be

2761
02:04:51,260 --> 02:04:52,730
able to hire a full-time person to do it

2762
02:04:52,730 --> 02:04:54,980
but but we could you know remember a

2763
02:04:54,980 --> 02:04:56,350
part-time person

2764
02:04:56,350 --> 02:04:59,300
is no benefits and that kind of thing

2765
02:04:59,300 --> 02:05:02,270
and it helps helps the help some budget

2766
02:05:02,270 --> 02:05:04,130
quite a bit so any thoughts on any of

2767
02:05:04,130 --> 02:05:05,290
that

2768
02:05:05,290 --> 02:05:08,380
councilman will call I

2769
02:05:08,380 --> 02:05:11,090
would hope we wouldn't need more than a

2770
02:05:11,090 --> 02:05:14,989
part-time person and I think it's a good

2771
02:05:14,989 --> 02:05:18,460
idea either contract or well

2772
02:05:18,460 --> 02:05:22,220
contract or if we have some an employee

2773
02:05:22,220 --> 02:05:26,160
that could do other things also

2774
02:05:26,170 --> 02:05:28,730
an employee I mean hiring another

2775
02:05:28,730 --> 02:05:32,120
employee well because well with the

2776
02:05:32,120 --> 02:05:34,070
employees we have don't have the

2777
02:05:34,070 --> 02:05:35,540
bandwidth to be doing this - I

2778
02:05:35,540 --> 02:05:38,090
understand that's why I'm saying it

2779
02:05:38,090 --> 02:05:40,100
would be like if we need an assistance

2780
02:05:40,100 --> 02:05:43,540
somewhere they could possibly

2781
02:05:43,540 --> 02:05:47,480
do two jobs at once not you I don't want

2782
02:05:47,480 --> 02:05:50,600
to take have some of our people

2783
02:05:50,600 --> 02:05:54,020
currently adding this because it could

2784
02:05:54,020 --> 02:05:56,620
turn out to be substantial

2785
02:05:56,620 --> 02:06:00,500
but and remember I would look part time

2786
02:06:00,500 --> 02:06:03,040
yes sir and and to make sure that I I

2787
02:06:03,040 --> 02:06:05,300
hope I didn't mislead you I'm not saying

2788
02:06:05,300 --> 02:06:07,820
this is just not watching social media

2789
02:06:07,820 --> 02:06:14,600
and answering it's a message it's it's all of the things that are about

2790
02:06:14,600 --> 02:06:17,270
our message and about our outreach it's

2791
02:06:17,270 --> 02:06:18,340
you know

2792
02:06:18,340 --> 02:06:21,469
the messaging and the message on our

2793
02:06:21,469 --> 02:06:26,060
website and all of that stuff so it's not just sitting there and

2794
02:06:26,060 --> 02:06:29,000
monitoring Facebook and and next door

2795
02:06:29,000 --> 02:06:30,469
and answering it that's not what I'm

2796
02:06:30,469 --> 02:06:31,420
suggesting

2797
02:06:31,420 --> 02:06:36,840
anything else

2798
02:06:36,850 --> 02:06:39,710
I'm this is something I'm definitely for

2799
02:06:39,710 --> 02:06:42,260
and I think it's you know again beyond

2800
02:06:42,260 --> 02:06:44,000
just kind of addressing misinformation

2801
02:06:44,000 --> 02:06:46,480
it's also getting out

2802
02:06:46,480 --> 02:06:48,530
positive information about the city it's

2803
02:06:48,530 --> 02:06:50,540
about publicizing city events is about

2804
02:06:50,540 --> 02:06:53,360
working with Commission's something that

2805
02:06:53,360 --> 02:06:54,710
Jesse and I've talked a lot about is

2806
02:06:54,710 --> 02:06:57,080
educating the citizens about the water

2807
02:06:57,080 --> 02:06:58,969
rates you know how do we present that to

2808
02:06:58,969 --> 02:07:00,230
the public how do we put it on the

2809
02:07:00,230 --> 02:07:02,270
website are there's brochures that we

2810
02:07:02,270 --> 02:07:03,889
can put together that would help our

2811
02:07:03,889 --> 02:07:05,480
citizens understand those kinds of

2812
02:07:05,480 --> 02:07:07,610
things a gonna be issue with how do we

2813
02:07:07,610 --> 02:07:09,590
educate the people about why we make the

2814
02:07:09,590 --> 02:07:12,380
decisions about the deer you know how do

2815
02:07:12,380 --> 02:07:14,420
we help the citizens get to know who our

2816
02:07:14,420 --> 02:07:16,580
volunteers are or what our Commission's

2817
02:07:16,580 --> 02:07:19,670
actually do so they may want to attend

2818
02:07:19,670 --> 02:07:21,590
so there's this whole positive spin to

2819
02:07:21,590 --> 02:07:23,870
things too and you know the

2820
02:07:23,870 --> 02:07:26,179
misinformation part for me is mostly

2821
02:07:26,179 --> 02:07:28,130
about not taking up everybody else's

2822
02:07:28,130 --> 02:07:30,350
time all the city staff having to answer

2823
02:07:30,350 --> 02:07:34,639
the phone or you know having to I just

2824
02:07:34,639 --> 02:07:37,070
get so bogged down and all that you know

2825
02:07:37,070 --> 02:07:39,469
the negative misinformation then the you

2826
02:07:39,469 --> 02:07:41,630
know the the false information so I mean

2827
02:07:41,630 --> 02:07:43,760
I think there's two sides of this and I

2828
02:07:43,760 --> 02:07:45,710
think that positive side is there would

2829
02:07:45,710 --> 02:07:49,919
be a real benefit to the city

2830
02:07:49,929 --> 02:07:54,639
great thank you anything else sir I

2831
02:07:54,639 --> 02:07:58,369
can need I can see the need with I just

2832
02:07:58,369 --> 02:08:02,530
have to wonder if a public relations

2833
02:08:02,530 --> 02:08:04,659
individual

2834
02:08:04,659 --> 02:08:06,860
have we grown that much so we actually

2835
02:08:06,860 --> 02:08:09,440
need one I don't know what the answer is

2836
02:08:09,440 --> 02:08:12,019
it's that's that's another employee we

2837
02:08:12,019 --> 02:08:13,280
still have to staff the police

2838
02:08:13,280 --> 02:08:14,710
department fully

2839
02:08:14,710 --> 02:08:16,849
which I think it should be a priority

2840
02:08:16,849 --> 02:08:19,210
over a public relations officer or

2841
02:08:19,210 --> 02:08:20,739
individual

2842
02:08:20,739 --> 02:08:23,780
it is that what you're talking about

2843
02:08:23,780 --> 02:08:27,289
leasing is necessity it really is those

2844
02:08:27,289 --> 02:08:30,559
are my thoughts yes sir and and that's

2845
02:08:30,559 --> 02:08:33,050
why I'm also throwing out the option of

2846
02:08:33,050 --> 02:08:36,650
having it be a contractor or a part-time

2847
02:08:36,650 --> 02:08:38,449
person something that it keeps to write

2848
02:08:38,449 --> 02:08:40,539
the cost down considerably

2849
02:08:40,539 --> 02:08:42,909
sir

2850
02:08:42,909 --> 02:08:46,219
okay and I love the discussion that's

2851
02:08:46,219 --> 02:08:48,739
going on up here because this is in my

2852
02:08:48,739 --> 02:08:51,739
mind supposed to be a positive event we

2853
02:08:51,739 --> 02:08:53,690
have things happen in the city we have

2854
02:08:53,690 --> 02:08:55,869
things going on

2855
02:08:55,869 --> 02:08:58,039
we have city council meetings every

2856
02:08:58,039 --> 02:09:00,170
month oftentimes it's five or six people

2857
02:09:00,170 --> 02:09:01,489
come to the city council meetings

2858
02:09:01,489 --> 02:09:03,440
something then comes up and everybody

2859
02:09:03,440 --> 02:09:05,269
screams well I didn't know and it's been

2860
02:09:05,269 --> 02:09:07,099
on our Facebook page it's on the city

2861
02:09:07,099 --> 02:09:08,989
council meeting minutes it's now going

2862
02:09:08,989 --> 02:09:10,519
out on YouTube people can review that

2863
02:09:10,519 --> 02:09:12,530
and they still don't know so I view a

2864
02:09:12,530 --> 02:09:15,260
public information officer as another

2865
02:09:15,260 --> 02:09:17,389
venue to communicate through a way to

2866
02:09:17,389 --> 02:09:19,510
expand our communications

2867
02:09:19,510 --> 02:09:22,039
the communication cycle now in the world

2868
02:09:22,039 --> 02:09:24,400
is very very fast as we all know and

2869
02:09:24,400 --> 02:09:27,409
like like councilman Councilwoman swin

2870
02:09:27,409 --> 02:09:29,570
said some of our city employees are

2871
02:09:29,570 --> 02:09:32,510
getting beat up by folks it may be beat

2872
02:09:32,510 --> 02:09:34,039
ups not the right question right term

2873
02:09:34,039 --> 02:09:36,139
but they're getting bogged down in

2874
02:09:36,139 --> 02:09:37,639
people calling up coming in doing

2875
02:09:37,639 --> 02:09:39,309
Freedom of Information Act requests

2876
02:09:39,309 --> 02:09:41,420
demanding information about something

2877
02:09:41,420 --> 02:09:42,650
that somebody posted online that's

2878
02:09:42,650 --> 02:09:45,010
outright false or misleading or

2879
02:09:45,010 --> 02:09:47,449
incomplete datasets or cherry pick data

2880
02:09:47,449 --> 02:09:49,639
sets or quite frankly just a false

2881
02:09:49,639 --> 02:09:51,170
personal attack that's been made up and

2882
02:09:51,170 --> 02:09:53,590
with the intent of harming somebody

2883
02:09:53,590 --> 02:09:55,429
that's the kind of thing I'd like to

2884
02:09:55,429 --> 02:09:56,769
address with this

2885
02:09:56,769 --> 02:10:01,159
is to be able to just not go after the

2886
02:10:01,159 --> 02:10:02,570
person who's doing it but here's the

2887
02:10:02,570 --> 02:10:04,280
actual facts folks so before you pick up

2888
02:10:04,280 --> 02:10:06,169
the phone and call the city who I can

2889
02:10:06,169 --> 02:10:07,429
look at the next-door thread and go oh

2890
02:10:07,429 --> 02:10:09,229
they're not actually currently doing X Y

2891
02:10:09,229 --> 02:10:12,590
or Z and put out fat base straight-up

2892
02:10:12,590 --> 02:10:15,550
information and that's it

2893
02:10:15,550 --> 02:10:16,909
[Music]

2894
02:10:16,909 --> 02:10:19,309
I think either a contractor or a

2895
02:10:19,309 --> 02:10:21,219
part-time employee whichever is the most

2896
02:10:21,219 --> 02:10:23,989
reasonable price for the performance

2897
02:10:23,989 --> 02:10:26,719
would be the way to go with it and it's

2898
02:10:26,719 --> 02:10:28,879
like I said when I started talking here

2899
02:10:28,879 --> 02:10:30,139
it's another way to communicate with

2900
02:10:30,139 --> 02:10:31,609
people a lot of folks are getting a lot

2901
02:10:31,609 --> 02:10:33,289
of their information off of these

2902
02:10:33,289 --> 02:10:36,649
different online media and I think we

2903
02:10:36,649 --> 02:10:37,999
need to we're gonna have to engage on it

2904
02:10:37,999 --> 02:10:39,979
it's we get behind the information cycle

2905
02:10:39,979 --> 02:10:41,809
and also that you're you're battling

2906
02:10:41,809 --> 02:10:43,840
uphill

2907
02:10:43,840 --> 02:10:45,789
Pam I

2908
02:10:45,789 --> 02:10:48,109
totally support the idea I think our

2909
02:10:48,109 --> 02:10:51,709
staff is is overwhelmed not nothing

2910
02:10:51,709 --> 02:10:53,749
today or discredit it's just an awful

2911
02:10:53,749 --> 02:10:55,909
lot has asked to them I think the idea

2912
02:10:55,909 --> 02:10:59,859
of a Pio would be that person would be

2913
02:10:59,859 --> 02:11:03,619
not only proactive in being positive for

2914
02:11:03,619 --> 02:11:06,409
the city but also reactive when when

2915
02:11:06,409 --> 02:11:07,969
negative is out there or just to clarify

2916
02:11:07,969 --> 02:11:10,070
I mean people can legitimately

2917
02:11:10,070 --> 02:11:12,260
misunderstand an issue it doesn't mean

2918
02:11:12,260 --> 02:11:14,780
there's a problem I also see this as

2919
02:11:14,780 --> 02:11:17,119
potential for marketing the future

2920
02:11:17,119 --> 02:11:19,849
development and that person could be in

2921
02:11:19,849 --> 02:11:23,570
place to bring them along to know okay

2922
02:11:23,570 --> 02:11:25,789
this it's much like what mr. Lancia I

2923
02:11:25,789 --> 02:11:28,369
discussed last year you know creating a

2924
02:11:28,369 --> 02:11:30,050
marketing plan if you will and I think

2925
02:11:30,050 --> 02:11:32,929
the i/o officer would be key to that and

2926
02:11:32,929 --> 02:11:35,030
I think it should be a contract person

2927
02:11:35,030 --> 02:11:42,120
who has a capacity to grow with the city

2928
02:11:42,130 --> 02:11:45,610
okay that's all great and I appreciate

2929
02:11:45,610 --> 02:11:47,890
all those thoughts but as you heard

2930
02:11:47,890 --> 02:11:49,450
other people speak maybe something else

2931
02:11:49,450 --> 02:11:51,250
came to mind so I actually want to go

2932
02:11:51,250 --> 02:11:52,690
back to the right and see if there's

2933
02:11:52,690 --> 02:11:54,400
anything else you want to add before I

2934
02:11:54,400 --> 02:11:57,090
before we move forward

2935
02:11:57,090 --> 02:11:59,910
no the only thing that I would add is

2936
02:11:59,910 --> 02:12:01,680
but

2937
02:12:01,680 --> 02:12:06,070
was added to what I said so I'm fine I

2938
02:12:06,070 --> 02:12:07,320
totally agree

2939
02:12:07,320 --> 02:12:08,940
[Music]

2940
02:12:08,940 --> 02:12:12,520
ma'am sir let's keep it to a part time

2941
02:12:12,520 --> 02:12:17,570
and I'm agreeable to it

2942
02:12:17,580 --> 02:12:20,440
okay so again we don't have to have a

2943
02:12:20,440 --> 02:12:21,820
vote on this but I did want to get a

2944
02:12:21,820 --> 02:12:26,020
consensus that we will move forward with

2945
02:12:26,020 --> 02:12:28,330
exploring the options of either finding

2946
02:12:28,330 --> 02:12:29,770
somebody that can do this as a with the

2947
02:12:29,770 --> 02:12:33,730
contract or as a part-time person and it

2948
02:12:33,730 --> 02:12:36,820
will we'll get closer to this and over

2949
02:12:36,820 --> 02:12:38,590
and I don't know if we can get it done

2950
02:12:38,590 --> 02:12:45,070
in the next 30 days to bring you some concrete options but at least we'll

2951
02:12:45,070 --> 02:12:46,540
get closer to it now that we know that

2952
02:12:46,540 --> 02:12:48,910
we're not moving towards something that

2953
02:12:48,910 --> 02:12:50,860
you don't want us to do so this is this

2954
02:12:50,860 --> 02:12:53,040
was been great thank you for for those

2955
02:12:53,040 --> 02:12:57,180
ideas and for those thoughts

2956
02:12:57,180 --> 02:13:00,150
it's gain anything to add to this

2957
02:13:00,150 --> 02:13:02,250
okay great

2958
02:13:02,250 --> 02:13:04,690
anybody have anything else on this all

2959
02:13:04,690 --> 02:13:07,630
right moving on to item number 10 C

2960
02:13:07,630 --> 02:13:10,210
garners market days discuss status and

2961
02:13:10,210 --> 02:13:14,410
monthly activity and I want to first

2962
02:13:14,410 --> 02:13:16,570
offer up to Councilwoman sweat she's

2963
02:13:16,570 --> 02:13:18,630
been

2964
02:13:18,630 --> 02:13:23,700
heading this thing up so she's got some things she wants to to talk about

2965
02:13:23,700 --> 02:13:26,260
actually we have on our market manager

2966
02:13:26,260 --> 02:13:29,410
Kim wood here today to give the update

2967
02:13:29,410 --> 02:13:31,570
on the market we've sort of taken the

2968
02:13:31,570 --> 02:13:33,190
approach that this is kind of like like

2969
02:13:33,190 --> 02:13:35,410
a startup business so we had did a

2970
02:13:35,410 --> 02:13:37,240
little SWOT analysis that she's gonna

2971
02:13:37,240 --> 02:13:39,670
present so we can kind of get a baseline

2972
02:13:39,670 --> 02:13:41,260
for where we're at now that we've got a

2973
02:13:41,260 --> 02:13:47,440
professional on board

2974
02:13:47,450 --> 02:13:49,680
for some button

2975
02:13:49,680 --> 02:13:51,540
no you need to turn the mic on turn the

2976
02:13:51,540 --> 02:13:53,180
mic on

2977
02:13:53,180 --> 02:13:57,890
sorry new at this very Amer hi

2978
02:13:57,890 --> 02:14:00,030
so yes thank you for that introduction

2979
02:14:00,030 --> 02:14:04,260
Lisa I'm Kim wood and do have some

2980
02:14:04,260 --> 02:14:06,240
experience with this stuff I ran a

2981
02:14:06,240 --> 02:14:09,480
marketing company and events company for

2982
02:14:09,480 --> 02:14:12,360
over eight years and have my degree in

2983
02:14:12,360 --> 02:14:14,850
marketing and public relations so it's a

2984
02:14:14,850 --> 02:14:16,830
pleasure to be here you're in good hands

2985
02:14:16,830 --> 02:14:18,560
and I'm very excited to be here and

2986
02:14:18,560 --> 02:14:20,850
represent the Garden Ridge Market days

2987
02:14:20,850 --> 02:14:24,060
so and like Lisa said we pulled together

2988
02:14:24,060 --> 02:14:26,190
a SWOT analysis so that you all would

2989
02:14:26,190 --> 02:14:27,540
have a better idea of what's going on

2990
02:14:27,540 --> 02:14:30,180
with the market right now and the

2991
02:14:30,180 --> 02:14:32,100
present strengths and weaknesses of the

2992
02:14:32,100 --> 02:14:33,630
market so that we can make decisions

2993
02:14:33,630 --> 02:14:37,130
moving forward with that

2994
02:14:37,130 --> 02:14:40,320
so I will just get right into that the

2995
02:14:40,320 --> 02:14:42,060
strengths that we have going on with

2996
02:14:42,060 --> 02:14:44,310
market days right now we have a very

2997
02:14:44,310 --> 02:14:47,370
loyal customer base with visitor counts

2998
02:14:47,370 --> 02:14:50,400
from around 2000 around 2000 since we

2999
02:14:50,400 --> 02:14:53,100
started the market back in May there's a

3000
02:14:53,100 --> 02:14:55,050
high level of interest from vendors and

3001
02:14:55,050 --> 02:14:56,520
a variety of products that they're

3002
02:14:56,520 --> 02:14:58,440
offering and they're from all over San

3003
02:14:58,440 --> 02:15:01,170
Antonio and the surrounding cities we

3004
02:15:01,170 --> 02:15:03,660
have 50 vendors this month which is

3005
02:15:03,660 --> 02:15:05,490
almost double the size of previous

3006
02:15:05,490 --> 02:15:08,100
months so we're doing quite well growing

3007
02:15:08,100 --> 02:15:09,020
the market

3008
02:15:09,020 --> 02:15:12,150
and it's we're steadily increasing the

3009
02:15:12,150 --> 02:15:14,850
earning earning income every month with

3010
02:15:14,850 --> 02:15:16,830
the market as well we're expanding the

3011
02:15:16,830 --> 02:15:19,650
vendor pool and we're projecting close

3012
02:15:19,650 --> 02:15:22,410
to 1500 dollars in vendor fees for this

3013
02:15:22,410 --> 02:15:23,750
month alone

3014
02:15:23,750 --> 02:15:26,340
some of the weaknesses going into that

3015
02:15:26,340 --> 02:15:29,250
there is limited space in the city hall

3016
02:15:29,250 --> 02:15:30,530
parking lot

3017
02:15:30,530 --> 02:15:33,630
so that is where we obviously host the

3018
02:15:33,630 --> 02:15:35,490
market but because we are growing in

3019
02:15:35,490 --> 02:15:37,410
vendors we actually have to cap the

3020
02:15:37,410 --> 02:15:39,420
number of what we're currently at which

3021
02:15:39,420 --> 02:15:42,300
is the 50 so we cannot at this point

3022
02:15:42,300 --> 02:15:45,240
accommodate a growing vendor waitlist

3023
02:15:45,240 --> 02:15:49,200
that we do have a little bit of a lack of

3024
02:15:49,200 --> 02:15:51,410
capital here at the start

3025
02:15:51,410 --> 02:15:54,780
there is no real money to invest in

3026
02:15:54,780 --> 02:15:57,870
extensive marketing at this time or

3027
02:15:57,870 --> 02:15:59,550
other activities that we could add to

3028
02:15:59,550 --> 02:16:01,470
the market things to generate people

3029
02:16:01,470 --> 02:16:04,500
coming in and interest in the event is

3030
02:16:04,500 --> 02:16:06,270
very important obviously to keeping

3031
02:16:06,270 --> 02:16:09,080
something like this going so

3032
02:16:09,080 --> 02:16:11,150
and

3033
02:16:11,150 --> 02:16:13,620
the other thing is we don't have a lot

3034
02:16:13,620 --> 02:16:15,060
of volunteers at this time we're

3035
02:16:15,060 --> 02:16:16,650
obviously working on that and like we

3036
02:16:16,650 --> 02:16:19,080
mentioned earlier that is a over what an

3037
02:16:19,080 --> 02:16:21,570
overall city you know issue that we have

3038
02:16:21,570 --> 02:16:23,570
so it's not just us obviously

3039
02:16:23,570 --> 02:16:25,890
the opportunities that we have the

3040
02:16:25,890 --> 02:16:27,690
demographics of the guard of Garden

3041
02:16:27,690 --> 02:16:29,520
Ridge itself are changing and the

3042
02:16:29,520 --> 02:16:31,440
majority have expressed an interest in

3043
02:16:31,440 --> 02:16:33,570
retail offerings so we're providing that

3044
02:16:33,570 --> 02:16:37,440
and able to act on that as a stopgap

3045
02:16:37,440 --> 02:16:39,870
measure through the market the city is

3046
02:16:39,870 --> 02:16:41,790
able to serve as an incubator for small

3047
02:16:41,790 --> 02:16:44,910
local businesses ma'am ma'am I don't

3048
02:16:44,910 --> 02:16:46,470
mean to interrupt you

3049
02:16:46,470 --> 02:16:49,730
we are off the agenda

3050
02:16:49,730 --> 02:16:52,140
for what we should be talking about I

3051
02:16:52,140 --> 02:16:57,400
believe

3052
02:16:57,410 --> 02:17:01,350
what is we are serving the purpose of

3053
02:17:01,350 --> 02:17:02,970
this right now is to get a status of it

3054
02:17:02,970 --> 02:17:08,800
and because

3055
02:17:08,810 --> 02:17:13,080
so to get it to get a status and to

3056
02:17:13,080 --> 02:17:14,510
discuss some of the things that

3057
02:17:14,510 --> 02:17:17,370
councilman Swint thinks that that y'all

3058
02:17:17,370 --> 02:17:19,980
need to make some decisions on having a

3059
02:17:19,980 --> 02:17:22,170
guest speaker and having our

3060
02:17:22,170 --> 02:17:23,390
[Music]

3061
02:17:23,390 --> 02:17:25,560
contracted manager speaking right now

3062
02:17:25,560 --> 02:17:27,720
was not on the agenda yeah I was not

3063
02:17:27,720 --> 02:17:29,520
told that you were gonna have this

3064
02:17:29,520 --> 02:17:32,420
presentation and

3065
02:17:32,420 --> 02:17:35,010
so but I've been I've been sitting here

3066
02:17:35,010 --> 02:17:37,020
letting it go so you need to wrap this

3067
02:17:37,020 --> 02:17:38,390
up

3068
02:17:38,390 --> 02:17:41,240
okay

3069
02:17:41,240 --> 02:17:44,660
the market in my opinion is very

3070
02:17:44,660 --> 02:17:47,130
it's growing rapidly and it is a big

3071
02:17:47,130 --> 02:17:48,810
deal it is a big issue discuss we have

3072
02:17:48,810 --> 02:17:52,130
over seventy thousand people on

3073
02:17:52,130 --> 02:17:53,910
social media that have already

3074
02:17:53,910 --> 02:17:56,790
recognized just the one November market

3075
02:17:56,790 --> 02:18:00,060
coming up right now we have over 3,000

3076
02:18:00,060 --> 02:18:03,179
RSVPs to that market and that is more

3077
02:18:03,179 --> 02:18:04,980
than we've had for the last markets all

3078
02:18:04,980 --> 02:18:07,560
combined since May so I do think it's an

3079
02:18:07,560 --> 02:18:09,590
important issue to address

3080
02:18:09,590 --> 02:18:11,940
the threats that you were mentioning

3081
02:18:11,940 --> 02:18:14,640
that we do need to discuss I'm sure that

3082
02:18:14,640 --> 02:18:15,900
was the next thing at least I can

3083
02:18:15,900 --> 02:18:17,610
address those so that I can wrap it up

3084
02:18:17,610 --> 02:18:19,580
it's councilman's went by the way

3085
02:18:19,580 --> 02:18:23,760
excuse me no no Kim I apologize for the

3086
02:18:23,760 --> 02:18:26,040
mayor he's treated you completely rudely

3087
02:18:26,040 --> 02:18:28,230
up here if there was somebody who's at

3088
02:18:28,230 --> 02:18:31,010
fault it's me apparently

3089
02:18:31,010 --> 02:18:33,990
Kat knew there there are plenty of

3090
02:18:33,990 --> 02:18:35,730
people that knew up here that she was

3091
02:18:35,730 --> 02:18:37,969
going to be presenting

3092
02:18:37,969 --> 02:18:41,179
so let's review

3093
02:18:41,179 --> 02:18:44,210
who's meeting is

3094
02:18:44,210 --> 02:18:46,590
yes I know so if you're gonna have

3095
02:18:46,590 --> 02:18:48,210
somebody come in and speak to this body

3096
02:18:48,210 --> 02:18:51,179
you need to let me know it's not on the

3097
02:18:51,179 --> 02:18:53,160
agenda nobody has said anything to me

3098
02:18:53,160 --> 02:18:56,550
about it and you're given and you're

3099
02:18:56,550 --> 02:18:57,900
looking you're looking at one of our

3100
02:18:57,900 --> 02:19:00,900
employees put the agenda together we

3101
02:19:00,900 --> 02:19:03,060
will talk about when I sent the message

3102
02:19:03,060 --> 02:19:05,219
to you and Nancy I said I'd like her to

3103
02:19:05,219 --> 02:19:06,260
speak

3104
02:19:06,260 --> 02:19:08,460
Nancy do you remember me saying that in

3105
02:19:08,460 --> 02:19:11,160
the email so let's move on uh-oh I'm

3106
02:19:11,160 --> 02:19:13,969
cutting my hole cut the whole deal

3107
02:19:13,969 --> 02:19:16,950
let's move on is there anything that you

3108
02:19:16,950 --> 02:19:19,040
want to bring to council on

3109
02:19:19,040 --> 02:19:22,770
gardeners market days so let's for the

3110
02:19:22,770 --> 02:19:23,990
record let's talk about a few things

3111
02:19:23,990 --> 02:19:28,780
because it's very important right

3112
02:19:28,790 --> 02:19:32,250
now on social media the hours have been

3113
02:19:32,250 --> 02:19:35,160
changed for the amount of the market is

3114
02:19:35,160 --> 02:19:43,120
that correct the council did not approve

3115
02:19:43,130 --> 02:19:47,130
there has been an expenditure on the

3116
02:19:47,130 --> 02:19:48,630
market that the council did not approve

3117
02:19:48,630 --> 02:19:51,240
which is that correct ma'am is that

3118
02:19:51,240 --> 02:19:53,760
correct which expenditure the the

3119
02:19:53,760 --> 02:19:56,340
expenditure of hundred and something

3120
02:19:56,340 --> 02:19:58,740
dollars that your market manager

3121
02:19:58,740 --> 02:20:00,990
expanded that now we're talking about

3122
02:20:00,990 --> 02:20:02,790
that we need to we need to reimburse her

3123
02:20:02,790 --> 02:20:05,460
for that was not that is that is money

3124
02:20:05,460 --> 02:20:08,160
that the market does not have its money

3125
02:20:08,160 --> 02:20:11,190
$1,800 than its account but we don't

3126
02:20:11,190 --> 02:20:12,750
have the money to run the market and to

3127
02:20:12,750 --> 02:20:15,810
pay them our managers incorrect no we do

3128
02:20:15,810 --> 02:20:18,100
so then why haven't we paid the market

3129
02:20:18,100 --> 02:20:21,210
manager we can't pay the market manager

3130
02:20:21,210 --> 02:20:24,130
okay the market manager has been paid so

3131
02:20:24,130 --> 02:20:28,700
Andy do you understand what he's saying

3132
02:20:28,710 --> 02:20:32,470
your note to me was that we have a

3133
02:20:32,470 --> 02:20:35,920
market manager that spent money that was

3134
02:20:35,920 --> 02:20:37,510
not an authorized expenditure is that

3135
02:20:37,510 --> 02:20:39,810
correct or incorrect the market manager

3136
02:20:39,810 --> 02:20:43,270
prepaid for some things and on my list

3137
02:20:43,270 --> 02:20:46,150
as you know is a request for some seed

3138
02:20:46,150 --> 02:20:47,820
money or some

3139
02:20:47,820 --> 02:20:50,170
what did I write down or a line of

3140
02:20:50,170 --> 02:20:51,970
credit or something that we can borrow

3141
02:20:51,970 --> 02:20:53,890
against because what we're doing is

3142
02:20:53,890 --> 02:20:55,960
we're spending money and then we are

3143
02:20:55,960 --> 02:20:58,690
waiting for vendor fees to come in and

3144
02:20:58,690 --> 02:21:01,170
going back and paying things

3145
02:21:01,170 --> 02:21:04,680
we're operating in arrears

3146
02:21:04,680 --> 02:21:08,320
so to review we're spending money that

3147
02:21:08,320 --> 02:21:11,530
we don't have that was not authorized by

3148
02:21:11,530 --> 02:21:13,540
the council we're changing the hours

3149
02:21:13,540 --> 02:21:15,640
without being authorized by the council

3150
02:21:15,640 --> 02:21:18,100
we're asking for extra money no special

3151
02:21:18,100 --> 02:21:20,890
said I let me finish and we're asking

3152
02:21:20,890 --> 02:21:23,110
for extra money when the council said

3153
02:21:23,110 --> 02:21:25,210
that they were going to seed this for

3154
02:21:25,210 --> 02:21:27,520
three months and then it needed to be

3155
02:21:27,520 --> 02:21:30,220
the count of the market needed to be

3156
02:21:30,220 --> 02:21:34,690
self-sufficient if you are if if you or

3157
02:21:34,690 --> 02:21:37,540
anybody are authorizing changes to what

3158
02:21:37,540 --> 02:21:40,360
the council has authorized and then

3159
02:21:40,360 --> 02:21:42,550
bringing it the council to ask for the

3160
02:21:42,550 --> 02:21:44,920
approval after if the changes have been

3161
02:21:44,920 --> 02:21:46,470
made I

3162
02:21:46,470 --> 02:21:50,200
have a problem with that well I disagree

3163
02:21:50,200 --> 02:21:53,290
with your representation of things half

3164
02:21:53,290 --> 02:21:55,900
the hours been changed the hours have

3165
02:21:55,900 --> 02:21:58,360
not officially been changed is it on

3166
02:21:58,360 --> 02:21:59,950
social media saying what the hours are

3167
02:21:59,950 --> 02:22:03,880
it is on my list and we do okay am I

3168
02:22:03,880 --> 02:22:07,740
allowed to talk or no go ahead I

3169
02:22:07,740 --> 02:22:11,380
had this discussion with you and I told

3170
02:22:11,380 --> 02:22:13,870
you that we specifically designed the

3171
02:22:13,870 --> 02:22:15,060
banners

3172
02:22:15,060 --> 02:22:18,940
with the times off of them because we

3173
02:22:18,940 --> 02:22:20,650
did not want to commit to the hours I

3174
02:22:20,650 --> 02:22:24,280
did say that Kim put out some time on

3175
02:22:24,280 --> 02:22:27,330
social media and I have caught that it

3176
02:22:27,330 --> 02:22:31,500
is on my list to ask council about that

3177
02:22:31,500 --> 02:22:33,990
it is at the vendors request that we

3178
02:22:33,990 --> 02:22:38,149
extend the market by an hour

3179
02:22:38,149 --> 02:22:42,830
Jim announced on

3180
02:22:42,830 --> 02:22:46,200
it's been announced by our to the

3181
02:22:46,200 --> 02:22:48,570
council approving it that's that's a

3182
02:22:48,570 --> 02:22:51,060
very important thing okay nobody on

3183
02:22:51,060 --> 02:22:54,689
staff nor I will will ever get in front

3184
02:22:54,689 --> 02:22:56,430
of the decisions of Council and then

3185
02:22:56,430 --> 02:22:58,109
hope that when we come in Council will

3186
02:22:58,109 --> 02:22:59,880
say yes that's all right we talked about

3187
02:22:59,880 --> 02:23:02,010
that Oh correct when I told you I made a

3188
02:23:02,010 --> 02:23:04,050
mistake but now you're saying what

3189
02:23:04,050 --> 02:23:06,270
didn't what happen no I didn't say that

3190
02:23:06,270 --> 02:23:08,399
where did I say that I said it went out

3191
02:23:08,399 --> 02:23:10,979
on social media and I said I should have

3192
02:23:10,979 --> 02:23:13,649
caught it all right so so instead of

3193
02:23:13,649 --> 02:23:16,500
arguing and we're gonna just move on and

3194
02:23:16,500 --> 02:23:20,430
what do you need from Council on this

3195
02:23:20,430 --> 02:23:24,760
Garden Ridge market days

3196
02:23:24,770 --> 02:23:27,350
what do you need

3197
02:23:27,350 --> 02:23:30,080
what do I need for

3198
02:23:30,080 --> 02:23:36,000
my list was a request to change ours to

3199
02:23:36,000 --> 02:23:38,189
add an additional hour at the request of

3200
02:23:38,189 --> 02:23:42,010
the vendors

3201
02:23:42,020 --> 02:23:44,570
what else

3202
02:23:44,570 --> 02:23:46,970
mom let me go through the list

3203
02:23:46,970 --> 02:23:49,649
again our budget is three hundred and

3204
02:23:49,649 --> 02:23:53,100
seventy five dollars I was going to a

3205
02:23:53,100 --> 02:23:55,020
request that we take some things off the

3206
02:23:55,020 --> 02:23:58,260
budget including $100 expense that is on

3207
02:23:58,260 --> 02:24:01,920
our budget too slowly by our own set of

3208
02:24:01,920 --> 02:24:03,930
table and chairs from the community

3209
02:24:03,930 --> 02:24:06,720
center it's come to my attention that

3210
02:24:06,720 --> 02:24:08,520
there probably some months that we don't

3211
02:24:08,520 --> 02:24:10,740
even have access to those tables and

3212
02:24:10,740 --> 02:24:12,540
chairs and that we could probably buy

3213
02:24:12,540 --> 02:24:15,540
them cheaper on my own or on our own and

3214
02:24:15,540 --> 02:24:17,430
that would take one hundred dollars out

3215
02:24:17,430 --> 02:24:20,100
of the budget a month it's also come to

3216
02:24:20,100 --> 02:24:21,330
my attention that when the market

3217
02:24:21,330 --> 02:24:25,340
started we also we used to have

3218
02:24:25,340 --> 02:24:27,870
parks and I'm sorry our public worst

3219
02:24:27,870 --> 02:24:30,960
person there for blocka time from 7 to 9

3220
02:24:30,960 --> 02:24:34,620
and then the last hour that would also

3221
02:24:34,620 --> 02:24:38,330
help us cut down on the expenses and

3222
02:24:38,330 --> 02:24:40,190
some more money back into the budget

3223
02:24:40,190 --> 02:24:42,230
that would be a total of 185 dollars

3224
02:24:42,230 --> 02:24:44,950
back into the budget

3225
02:24:44,950 --> 02:24:48,320
so those were two things so wait a

3226
02:24:48,320 --> 02:24:51,021
minute make sure we understand what

3227
02:24:51,021 --> 02:24:58,580
you're asking you're asking for the city labor to work less at the

3228
02:24:58,580 --> 02:25:00,740
market correct that's what we initially

3229
02:25:00,740 --> 02:25:05,061
started in to reduce costs okay so

3230
02:25:05,061 --> 02:25:07,280
specifically how much how many hours are

3231
02:25:07,280 --> 02:25:08,420
they working now and how many hours do

3232
02:25:08,420 --> 02:25:10,990
you want them or they're working

3233
02:25:10,990 --> 02:25:13,490
six hours now we only need them for

3234
02:25:13,490 --> 02:25:15,930
three

3235
02:25:15,940 --> 02:25:19,521
and we know those three hours seven to

3236
02:25:19,521 --> 02:25:22,460
nine and the last hour of the day so you

3237
02:25:22,460 --> 02:25:24,740
want them to come in work for a couple

3238
02:25:24,740 --> 02:25:27,561
hours go home and then come back for an

3239
02:25:27,561 --> 02:25:29,290
hour we initially did

3240
02:25:29,290 --> 02:25:33,100
you didn't have a problem with it then

3241
02:25:33,100 --> 02:25:36,200
that was when that City was paying for

3242
02:25:36,200 --> 02:25:39,170
the whole thing but that's that's a tall

3243
02:25:39,170 --> 02:25:42,021
order to ask somebody anybody to leave

3244
02:25:42,021 --> 02:25:44,090
and come back a couple hours later and

3245
02:25:44,090 --> 02:25:45,800
work for one more hour and working work

3246
02:25:45,800 --> 02:25:48,940
on getting it covered with volunteers

3247
02:25:48,940 --> 02:25:51,730
okay what else

3248
02:25:51,730 --> 02:25:54,700
um

3249
02:25:54,700 --> 02:25:57,110
I'm again if I can reduce some of the

3250
02:25:57,110 --> 02:25:59,000
expenses I won't ask for the seed money

3251
02:25:59,000 --> 02:26:01,340
because obviously that's a sticking

3252
02:26:01,340 --> 02:26:04,280
point what expenses are you gonna reduce

3253
02:26:04,280 --> 02:26:05,930
I just told you if we could take the

3254
02:26:05,930 --> 02:26:08,390
tables and chairs the $100 off of our

3255
02:26:08,390 --> 02:26:10,640
list so how are you gonna get tables and

3256
02:26:10,640 --> 02:26:13,480
chairs we will temporary borrow

3257
02:26:13,480 --> 02:26:16,070
temporarily borrow them from the

3258
02:26:16,070 --> 02:26:18,050
community center or being asked it paid

3259
02:26:18,050 --> 02:26:20,330
to use the tables and chairs from the

3260
02:26:20,330 --> 02:26:23,660
community center and as I recall the

3261
02:26:23,660 --> 02:26:25,700
discussion in here the reason for paying

3262
02:26:25,700 --> 02:26:28,820
for them was because it puts wear and

3263
02:26:28,820 --> 02:26:31,910
tear on the community centers equipment

3264
02:26:31,910 --> 02:26:34,790
that now you're just gonna put wear and

3265
02:26:34,790 --> 02:26:36,200
tear on it and they're not going to have

3266
02:26:36,200 --> 02:26:37,640
the ability to be able to replace those

3267
02:26:37,640 --> 02:26:40,340
chairs tables as to wear and tear so

3268
02:26:40,340 --> 02:26:42,080
you're asking for the city to basically

3269
02:26:42,080 --> 02:26:44,990
donate the tables and chairs no sir

3270
02:26:44,990 --> 02:26:46,820
borrow them temporarily until we can

3271
02:26:46,820 --> 02:26:49,670
afford our own I'm not sure why you're

3272
02:26:49,670 --> 02:26:51,830
making everything so difficult

3273
02:26:51,830 --> 02:26:54,220
okay what else

3274
02:26:54,220 --> 02:26:57,750
that's it

3275
02:26:57,760 --> 02:27:01,220
okay so what you're looking for is a

3276
02:27:01,220 --> 02:27:04,640
change of the hours and you you want to

3277
02:27:04,640 --> 02:27:06,439
ask them to bring somebody in and then

3278
02:27:06,439 --> 02:27:09,710
let them go and come back and you want

3279
02:27:09,710 --> 02:27:12,830
the city to loan the tables and chairs

3280
02:27:12,830 --> 02:27:13,810
for

3281
02:27:13,810 --> 02:27:15,790
how long

3282
02:27:15,790 --> 02:27:20,520
I'll let say three months

3283
02:27:20,530 --> 02:27:22,880
and the other things that you wrote were

3284
02:27:22,880 --> 02:27:25,689
about money getting more money

3285
02:27:25,689 --> 02:27:30,599
is that off the table now

3286
02:27:30,609 --> 02:27:32,290
okay

3287
02:27:32,290 --> 02:27:36,170
and you also wrote about the location is

3288
02:27:36,170 --> 02:27:38,899
that off the table now well I know it's

3289
02:27:38,899 --> 02:27:40,340
something that it's not gonna be

3290
02:27:40,340 --> 02:27:42,189
considered

3291
02:27:42,189 --> 02:27:44,680
okay

3292
02:27:44,680 --> 02:27:49,100
all right Nancy so I'm gonna see has her

3293
02:27:49,100 --> 02:27:52,810
hand up yeah and go ahead which game

3294
02:27:52,810 --> 02:27:55,609
when we bring an employee in it's a

3295
02:27:55,609 --> 02:27:57,620
minimum of two hours at a time

3296
02:27:57,620 --> 02:27:59,510
I'm call that still find you that's

3297
02:27:59,510 --> 02:28:02,350
still less than six hours

3298
02:28:02,350 --> 02:28:04,520
so you're gonna send them away for one

3299
02:28:04,520 --> 02:28:06,290
hour and have them come back for two

3300
02:28:06,290 --> 02:28:07,300
hours

3301
02:28:07,300 --> 02:28:11,950
to save an hour's worth of labor hours

3302
02:28:11,950 --> 02:28:15,250
well depending

3303
02:28:15,250 --> 02:28:18,229
okay and maybe we don't then maybe we

3304
02:28:18,229 --> 02:28:22,970
ask for Steve money I mean I'm not sure

3305
02:28:22,970 --> 02:28:24,800
Lee I'm not sure why I've got to beg

3306
02:28:24,800 --> 02:28:25,870
borrow

3307
02:28:25,870 --> 02:28:31,069
B and you're not begging and borrowing I know I know you that's what you

3308
02:28:31,069 --> 02:28:32,180
think's going on right now but the

3309
02:28:32,180 --> 02:28:35,319
problem is is I'm sitting here

3310
02:28:35,319 --> 02:28:39,170
with in minutes and what council

3311
02:28:39,170 --> 02:28:41,479
approved and watching what's happening

3312
02:28:41,479 --> 02:28:44,390
and they're not the same thing and I I

3313
02:28:44,390 --> 02:28:54,520
told you that's a problem and so you I'm asking you to understand that

3314
02:28:54,520 --> 02:28:58,310
counsel made the decision on this seeded

3315
02:28:58,310 --> 02:28:59,930
this for three months said that it was

3316
02:28:59,930 --> 02:29:02,110
going to be

3317
02:29:02,110 --> 02:29:04,391
self-sufficient and

3318
02:29:04,391 --> 02:29:09,261
now we're moving this target I'm just

3319
02:29:09,261 --> 02:29:10,610
holding the line on what council said

3320
02:29:10,610 --> 02:29:12,261
now councils here and that's why we're

3321
02:29:12,261 --> 02:29:13,641
talking about it here and if they want

3322
02:29:13,641 --> 02:29:15,650
to change change this it's their

3323
02:29:15,650 --> 02:29:17,920
prerogative and I have no vote in this

3324
02:29:17,920 --> 02:29:22,551
but but it's it is a problem to spend

3325
02:29:22,551 --> 02:29:25,511
money that the council has not approved

3326
02:29:25,511 --> 02:29:30,200
it's a problem to advertise a change in

3327
02:29:30,200 --> 02:29:32,721
a in a city activity that the council

3328
02:29:32,721 --> 02:29:35,630
did not approve and that's why you're

3329
02:29:35,630 --> 02:29:38,150
perceiving it as being difficult but I'm

3330
02:29:38,150 --> 02:29:39,771
just telling you that we need to stick

3331
02:29:39,771 --> 02:29:42,920
with with what y'all y'all you're part

3332
02:29:42,920 --> 02:29:45,830
of it decide well our interpretation of

3333
02:29:45,830 --> 02:29:49,540
things are slightly different okay

3334
02:29:49,540 --> 02:29:53,780
ma'am oh and the other thing that I will

3335
02:29:53,780 --> 02:29:56,150
tell you that I don't know if it's been

3336
02:29:56,150 --> 02:30:00,070
brought to your attention but this next

3337
02:30:00,070 --> 02:30:03,431
market is is and this is not my

3338
02:30:03,431 --> 02:30:06,261
declaration but this next market is the

3339
02:30:06,261 --> 02:30:08,380
last time that cats gonna be working

3340
02:30:08,380 --> 02:30:11,570
which is significant because she's she

3341
02:30:11,570 --> 02:30:14,271
is spent a lot of time she's actually

3342
02:30:14,271 --> 02:30:16,521
spent more time on it recently than she

3343
02:30:16,521 --> 02:30:19,400
did when we were the city was running it

3344
02:30:19,400 --> 02:30:20,931
so correct because she's trying to get

3345
02:30:20,931 --> 02:30:24,021
our person that we hired up to speed and

3346
02:30:24,021 --> 02:30:26,650
if I recall

3347
02:30:26,650 --> 02:30:28,971
you and Nancy both have governance over

3348
02:30:28,971 --> 02:30:31,221
the market as well and I seem to be

3349
02:30:31,221 --> 02:30:33,070
doing the majority of the work and

3350
02:30:33,070 --> 02:30:37,000
getting the majority of the

3351
02:30:37,000 --> 02:30:40,650
shall we say

3352
02:30:40,660 --> 02:30:43,370
grief I don't know I mean for the

3353
02:30:43,370 --> 02:30:45,620
hundred things we do right again once

3354
02:30:45,620 --> 02:30:46,480
again

3355
02:30:46,480 --> 02:30:49,040
called me on the carpet for doing two

3356
02:30:49,040 --> 02:30:51,650
things wrong that I told you in advance

3357
02:30:51,650 --> 02:30:54,471
I was gonna dress up here but you

3358
02:30:54,471 --> 02:30:56,570
decided that you needed a public forum

3359
02:30:56,570 --> 02:30:58,940
no it's not about a public forum it's

3360
02:30:58,940 --> 02:31:01,210
about the forum with these

3361
02:31:01,210 --> 02:31:06,891
four piers right okay so what do you

3362
02:31:06,891 --> 02:31:09,831
want council to

3363
02:31:09,831 --> 02:31:12,070
I

3364
02:31:12,070 --> 02:31:15,221
would like Council to take the $100

3365
02:31:15,221 --> 02:31:17,871
expenditure off of the mark for tables

3366
02:31:17,871 --> 02:31:20,561
and chairs off of the market budget

3367
02:31:20,561 --> 02:31:24,381
for the next three months the community

3368
02:31:24,381 --> 02:31:26,541
center will provide tables and chairs is

3369
02:31:26,541 --> 02:31:28,371
that which harassment correct okay

3370
02:31:28,371 --> 02:31:30,411
that's the first thing I would like to

3371
02:31:30,411 --> 02:31:33,230
send the market hours temporarily or at

3372
02:31:33,230 --> 02:31:37,031
least on a trial basis until 2 o'clock

3373
02:31:37,031 --> 02:31:42,261
ok 2:00 p.m. extension okay and anything

3374
02:31:42,261 --> 02:31:44,301
else I'd like to consider some seed

3375
02:31:44,301 --> 02:31:46,671
money for the market so you want the

3376
02:31:46,671 --> 02:31:48,951
council to appropriate more money to

3377
02:31:48,951 --> 02:31:51,711
L'Amour do you need more money more

3378
02:31:51,711 --> 02:31:53,690
money we've spent how many thousands of

3379
02:31:53,690 --> 02:31:55,671
dollars on the market already so it is

3380
02:31:55,671 --> 02:31:58,070
more yes ma'am not since she's been

3381
02:31:58,070 --> 02:31:59,931
running no not since we didn't run it

3382
02:31:59,931 --> 02:32:01,610
not since I've been running it we didn't

3383
02:32:01,610 --> 02:32:03,381
spend that thirty five hundred that was

3384
02:32:03,381 --> 02:32:05,811
allocated the only money that was spent

3385
02:32:05,811 --> 02:32:07,900
out of that was on

3386
02:32:07,900 --> 02:32:11,331
okay so how much money do you want I was

3387
02:32:11,331 --> 02:32:12,561
only the only money that was spinning

3388
02:32:12,561 --> 02:32:14,900
that was labor that $3,500 was just

3389
02:32:14,900 --> 02:32:16,671
spent on labor how much money do you

3390
02:32:16,671 --> 02:32:17,351
want

3391
02:32:17,351 --> 02:32:20,811
$500 okay council there you have it you

3392
02:32:20,811 --> 02:32:22,730
have tables and chairs for three months

3393
02:32:22,730 --> 02:32:23,531
from

3394
02:32:23,531 --> 02:32:29,001
you can say you can say anything you

3395
02:32:29,001 --> 02:32:30,681
want you're the ones that are making a

3396
02:32:30,681 --> 02:32:32,991
decision so okay I move that we approve

3397
02:32:32,991 --> 02:32:36,041
thousand dollars for seed money for the

3398
02:32:36,041 --> 02:32:40,730
market days also that we allow them I

3399
02:32:40,730 --> 02:32:43,041
guess to use a tables and chairs for a

3400
02:32:43,041 --> 02:32:44,751
certain amount of time and that the

3401
02:32:44,751 --> 02:32:47,690
hours be increased by one hour on a

3402
02:32:47,690 --> 02:32:49,271
Saturday

3403
02:32:49,271 --> 02:32:53,391
also okay that's emotionally okay so

3404
02:32:53,391 --> 02:32:57,730
motion tables and chairs for how long

3405
02:32:57,730 --> 02:33:00,860
look this is the I know this seems to be

3406
02:33:00,860 --> 02:33:03,860
trivial but if you're the one that has

3407
02:33:03,860 --> 02:33:06,591
that other part of the city and your

3408
02:33:06,591 --> 02:33:08,931
stuff is being used and torn up and you

3409
02:33:08,931 --> 02:33:10,911
have no recourse because now you just

3410
02:33:10,911 --> 02:33:12,561
got to replace it out of your budget I'm

3411
02:33:12,561 --> 02:33:14,480
in essence I guess what I'm saying is

3412
02:33:14,480 --> 02:33:17,331
I'm trying to do church the Lord's

3413
02:33:17,331 --> 02:33:21,721
Committee for use parks committee buys

3414
02:33:21,721 --> 02:33:24,601
do you use de parts the parts over so

3415
02:33:24,601 --> 02:33:29,221
it's thank you very much so how long do

3416
02:33:29,221 --> 02:33:32,011
you want three months three months three

3417
02:33:32,011 --> 02:33:34,261
months okay and this is a city function

3418
02:33:34,261 --> 02:33:36,530
there this is not some

3419
02:33:36,530 --> 02:33:39,030
community organization that's gonna be

3420
02:33:39,030 --> 02:33:42,751
using these things okay okay so I have a

3421
02:33:42,751 --> 02:33:45,240
motion from place three to use the

3422
02:33:45,240 --> 02:33:48,601
tables and chairs at no cost for three

3423
02:33:48,601 --> 02:33:50,701
months to extend the hours to 2:00 p.m.

3424
02:33:50,701 --> 02:33:56,051
and to

3425
02:33:56,061 --> 02:33:59,070
put a thousand dollars more thousand

3426
02:33:59,070 --> 02:34:00,421
dollars whether it's more or not

3427
02:34:00,421 --> 02:34:03,801
thousand dollars to the market days

3428
02:34:03,801 --> 02:34:05,761
where would you like that money to come

3429
02:34:05,761 --> 02:34:09,581
from

3430
02:34:09,591 --> 02:34:13,860
we could reduce the cost that trap hogs

3431
02:34:13,860 --> 02:34:16,051
by a thousand dollars and put nine

3432
02:34:16,051 --> 02:34:17,490
thousand dollars on it we could take it

3433
02:34:17,490 --> 02:34:19,141
from there I don't care where it comes

3434
02:34:19,141 --> 02:34:22,161
from we certainly have it somewhere

3435
02:34:22,161 --> 02:34:23,900
okay

3436
02:34:23,900 --> 02:34:25,311
[Music]

3437
02:34:25,311 --> 02:34:28,201
all right motion place three you heard

3438
02:34:28,201 --> 02:34:30,081
it anybody want to do a second

3439
02:34:30,081 --> 02:34:33,690
I'll second place one with a second any

3440
02:34:33,690 --> 02:34:36,061
further discussion or questions yes if I

3441
02:34:36,061 --> 02:34:39,570
may do we I've been there and I

3442
02:34:39,570 --> 02:34:42,291
volunteered as you know on this project

3443
02:34:42,291 --> 02:34:46,381
the staff aside from cat for example but

3444
02:34:46,381 --> 02:34:48,391
the guys the Public Works guys they come

3445
02:34:48,391 --> 02:34:50,671
and they physically bring out the tents

3446
02:34:50,671 --> 02:34:52,980
or that and so that's essentially what

3447
02:34:52,980 --> 02:34:55,951
they're doing and they retreat on that

3448
02:34:55,951 --> 02:34:57,721
at the end of the session is that right

3449
02:34:57,721 --> 02:35:01,971
so they're I guess there's no option for

3450
02:35:01,971 --> 02:35:05,101
volunteers to to disassemble it because

3451
02:35:05,101 --> 02:35:07,230
we wouldn't have access to storage is

3452
02:35:07,230 --> 02:35:10,351
that right probably it's usually

3453
02:35:10,351 --> 02:35:13,051
temporarily stored in that area the

3454
02:35:13,051 --> 02:35:15,360
smoking-room right okay right I mean we

3455
02:35:15,360 --> 02:35:16,860
could have volunteers to sit down if we

3456
02:35:16,860 --> 02:35:19,141
didn't want that somebody back possibly

3457
02:35:19,141 --> 02:35:20,671
a considering right and I'd be happy to

3458
02:35:20,671 --> 02:35:22,400
help with that too degree that I can

3459
02:35:22,400 --> 02:35:25,261
also do you know how I mean I know you

3460
02:35:25,261 --> 02:35:27,121
know how many chairs and tables do you

3461
02:35:27,121 --> 02:35:30,001
use each month so far or have you uh

3462
02:35:30,001 --> 02:35:32,791
it's like four or five tables it depends

3463
02:35:32,791 --> 02:35:34,580
on what we've got going on if we

3464
02:35:34,580 --> 02:35:36,841
face-painting or if we set up the

3465
02:35:36,841 --> 02:35:39,091
information booth it just depends well

3466
02:35:39,091 --> 02:35:41,431
Jim and I could would be willing to

3467
02:35:41,431 --> 02:35:43,051
donate some tables I'd have to figure

3468
02:35:43,051 --> 02:35:45,181
I've got tables that are my table that's

3469
02:35:45,181 --> 02:35:46,950
in use right now as well so thanks for

3470
02:35:46,950 --> 02:35:47,700
that

3471
02:35:47,700 --> 02:35:50,851
if we own our own tables where might we

3472
02:35:50,851 --> 02:35:55,290
store them I mean if in other words if as an entity although it's a city

3473
02:35:55,290 --> 02:35:58,891
entity you know we are able to

3474
02:35:58,891 --> 02:36:01,471
underwrite or ultimately purchase tables

3475
02:36:01,471 --> 02:36:03,721
where would we store those so they don't

3476
02:36:03,721 --> 02:36:05,820
get messed up with community center

3477
02:36:05,820 --> 02:36:08,560
issues

3478
02:36:08,570 --> 02:36:11,070
everything for the farmers market is

3479
02:36:11,070 --> 02:36:13,051
being stored on the back patio behind

3480
02:36:13,051 --> 02:36:18,820
admin okay

3481
02:36:18,830 --> 02:36:21,150
I'm sorry I think that's all I had as

3482
02:36:21,150 --> 02:36:22,671
questions right now

3483
02:36:22,671 --> 02:36:28,001
Thanks any other questions or comments

3484
02:36:28,011 --> 02:36:32,040
ocean place 3 second place one all in

3485
02:36:32,040 --> 02:36:33,381
favor aye

3486
02:36:33,381 --> 02:36:36,601
any opposed there's unanimous moving on

3487
02:36:36,601 --> 02:36:41,610
item 10d I say something about about the

3488
02:36:41,610 --> 02:36:44,570
yes okay my attempt to

3489
02:36:44,570 --> 02:36:46,940
keep the

3490
02:36:46,940 --> 02:36:49,650
discussion a little bit on track with

3491
02:36:49,650 --> 02:36:53,040
the agenda was a complete failure I'm

3492
02:36:53,040 --> 02:36:54,561
sorry about that

3493
02:36:54,561 --> 02:36:56,271
Kim and

3494
02:36:56,271 --> 02:36:59,610
council once went to your efforts last

3495
02:36:59,610 --> 02:37:01,471
month were incredible that was one of

3496
02:37:01,471 --> 02:37:03,570
the best we've ever had and I'm sure

3497
02:37:03,570 --> 02:37:05,940
it'll continue to be like that but we

3498
02:37:05,940 --> 02:37:07,830
did have two items on this agenda that

3499
02:37:07,830 --> 02:37:10,381
we were supposed to be following and one

3500
02:37:10,381 --> 02:37:12,391
of us discussed the status and monthly

3501
02:37:12,391 --> 02:37:15,330
activity the second was to make the

3502
02:37:15,330 --> 02:37:17,910
motion we just made that was it so don't

3503
02:37:17,910 --> 02:37:21,551
please don't take this personally

3504
02:37:21,561 --> 02:37:25,591
moving on item 10d ordinance two to zero

3505
02:37:25,591 --> 02:37:30,211
seven two zero one nine this is this is

3506
02:37:30,211 --> 02:37:32,631
an interesting situation because

3507
02:37:32,631 --> 02:37:36,381
the awesome materials has asked us to

3508
02:37:36,381 --> 02:37:39,000
change our ordinance to allow their

3509
02:37:39,000 --> 02:37:43,039
trucks to drive the that is if you put

3510
02:37:43,039 --> 02:37:46,999
that that part up it's one that yeah

3511
02:37:46,999 --> 02:37:48,919
there you go and just roll it down to

3512
02:37:48,919 --> 02:37:52,369
drive this route you approve tonight in

3513
02:37:52,369 --> 02:37:56,569
the consent agenda the minutes where you

3514
02:37:56,569 --> 02:38:00,470
council stated that you would do this

3515
02:38:00,470 --> 02:38:03,020
but that austin materials would have to

3516
02:38:03,020 --> 02:38:06,319
in writing agree to be responsible for

3517
02:38:06,319 --> 02:38:08,720
the the maintained maintenance and

3518
02:38:08,720 --> 02:38:12,199
upkeep of the road well going back and

3519
02:38:12,199 --> 02:38:14,060
forth to them there now to the point

3520
02:38:14,060 --> 02:38:15,260
where they're saying oh yeah we'll take

3521
02:38:15,260 --> 02:38:16,640
care of it but they're not willing to

3522
02:38:16,640 --> 02:38:19,310
put it in writing so what's coming to

3523
02:38:19,310 --> 02:38:22,279
you is do you want to do you want to

3524
02:38:22,279 --> 02:38:24,709
approve this without it being in writing

3525
02:38:24,709 --> 02:38:27,260
and I know that council councilman Lanza

3526
02:38:27,260 --> 02:38:28,489
has a little bit of background and so

3527
02:38:28,489 --> 02:38:30,010
I'd like to hand this over them

3528
02:38:30,010 --> 02:38:32,859
did as anybody talked to them

3529
02:38:32,859 --> 02:38:35,770
specifically about this I

3530
02:38:35,770 --> 02:38:38,869
was under the impression that you had I

3531
02:38:38,869 --> 02:38:41,659
was watchin with the mayor who may have

3532
02:38:41,659 --> 02:38:44,720
suggested that that they have refused to

3533
02:38:44,720 --> 02:38:49,699
put this in writing or whatever they have done that they would cooperate

3534
02:38:49,699 --> 02:38:51,350
and they've told me this on several

3535
02:38:51,350 --> 02:38:54,379
occasions they would cooperate with the

3536
02:38:54,379 --> 02:38:56,989
surrounding industrial properties to

3537
02:38:56,989 --> 02:38:59,090
maintain that Road if it gets to the

3538
02:38:59,090 --> 02:39:01,129
point where it needs it they absolutely

3539
02:39:01,129 --> 02:39:03,590
will I put it in writing and I I brought

3540
02:39:03,590 --> 02:39:05,419
this up both times I brought this up to

3541
02:39:05,419 --> 02:39:07,459
counsel this is not part of their

3542
02:39:07,459 --> 02:39:09,649
agreement what they want to do is they

3543
02:39:09,649 --> 02:39:13,369
want to use 6/10 of a mile within our

3544
02:39:13,369 --> 02:39:15,919
city limits to allow their trucks to

3545
02:39:15,919 --> 02:39:20,470
come from their plant to the exit of

3546
02:39:20,470 --> 02:39:24,379
Hanson materials take a left and go

3547
02:39:24,379 --> 02:39:26,510
straight to 35 that's all they're asking

3548
02:39:26,510 --> 02:39:27,249
for

3549
02:39:27,249 --> 02:39:30,919
so there's no maintenance agreement here

3550
02:39:30,919 --> 02:39:32,600
the only agreement they have actually

3551
02:39:32,600 --> 02:39:34,999
put it in writing as they put out that

3552
02:39:34,999 --> 02:39:37,760
they will fire anybody that goes

3553
02:39:37,760 --> 02:39:40,279
anywhere else except that route and

3554
02:39:40,279 --> 02:39:42,409
we're only talking about 6 cents of a

3555
02:39:42,409 --> 02:39:43,909
mile through the city limits that's all

3556
02:39:43,909 --> 02:39:46,550
they're asking for once it turns on to

3557
02:39:46,550 --> 02:39:48,829
2250 later that's a 20 that's a state

3558
02:39:48,829 --> 02:39:49,629
highway

3559
02:39:49,629 --> 02:39:52,550
so also the rewind in the discussion one

3560
02:39:52,550 --> 02:39:54,000
of the things we talked about is that

3561
02:39:54,000 --> 02:39:56,310
they're driving on that road will tear

3562
02:39:56,310 --> 02:40:00,300
up the road more and so they were

3563
02:40:00,300 --> 02:40:02,330
agreeing that they would maintain

3564
02:40:02,330 --> 02:40:04,880
that road and take care of that road

3565
02:40:04,880 --> 02:40:07,080
but the issue is they're not willing to

3566
02:40:07,080 --> 02:40:11,850
put in writing so for council hang on a second so for council it's

3567
02:40:11,850 --> 02:40:21,180
just up to y'all do you want to do you want to take take this just and I modify ordinance 22 and accept

3568
02:40:21,180 --> 02:40:24,060
that without it in writing and move on

3569
02:40:24,060 --> 02:40:27,060
or do you want to insist that they put

3570
02:40:27,060 --> 02:40:29,939
it in writing it's up to y'all go ahead

3571
02:40:29,939 --> 02:40:30,810
sir

3572
02:40:30,810 --> 02:40:33,560
they

3573
02:40:33,560 --> 02:40:38,670
are already authorized by law they go

3574
02:40:38,670 --> 02:40:41,300
from their plant to Hanson to pick up

3575
02:40:41,300 --> 02:40:44,310
material and back to their plant they

3576
02:40:44,310 --> 02:40:46,920
already use this road in fact the road

3577
02:40:46,920 --> 02:40:48,060
that they're going to be using is

3578
02:40:48,060 --> 02:40:49,590
probably going to be about two-tenths of

3579
02:40:49,590 --> 02:40:51,870
a mile that they're not actually using

3580
02:40:51,870 --> 02:40:54,930
at this point so any tearing up of the

3581
02:40:54,930 --> 02:40:57,689
road is already taking place that I mean

3582
02:40:57,689 --> 02:40:59,220
they that they're Hanson trucks going up

3583
02:40:59,220 --> 02:41:01,260
and down that road all the time it's not

3584
02:41:01,260 --> 02:41:03,710
going to accelerate it that much more

3585
02:41:03,710 --> 02:41:06,060
all its going to do is keep them from

3586
02:41:06,060 --> 02:41:09,210
going through the old Comal community

3587
02:41:09,210 --> 02:41:12,750
and on past the the intermediate school

3588
02:41:12,750 --> 02:41:14,489
that's what they're trying to eliminate

3589
02:41:14,489 --> 02:41:17,550
and they will not be signing an

3590
02:41:17,550 --> 02:41:19,080
agreement for maintenance of the road

3591
02:41:19,080 --> 02:41:21,420
okay it will cooperate but they're not

3592
02:41:21,420 --> 02:41:22,489
going to sign it

3593
02:41:22,489 --> 02:41:25,020
I'm not advocating for or against this

3594
02:41:25,020 --> 02:41:27,120
I'm just stating the facts facts are

3595
02:41:27,120 --> 02:41:29,460
that that they're not signed in it in

3596
02:41:29,460 --> 02:41:32,729
the in in the minutes that said that we

3597
02:41:32,729 --> 02:41:34,920
were we were going to them to ask and to

3598
02:41:34,920 --> 02:41:36,840
sign it that's what that was what was

3599
02:41:36,840 --> 02:41:40,109
affirmed by council so signed not signed

3600
02:41:40,109 --> 02:41:43,229
two tenths it doesn't it's all it's all

3601
02:41:43,229 --> 02:41:45,149
on the table right now for you all to

3602
02:41:45,149 --> 02:41:47,750
make a decision them so

3603
02:41:47,750 --> 02:41:51,810
again this is unchanged ordinance to to

3604
02:41:51,810 --> 02:41:53,000
and

3605
02:41:53,000 --> 02:41:58,921
what's the will of the council

3606
02:41:58,931 --> 02:42:02,870
ma'am can we ask for what it's worth a

3607
02:42:02,870 --> 02:42:05,480
legal opinion is to you know if there's

3608
02:42:05,480 --> 02:42:07,370
an incident I mean I don't understand

3609
02:42:07,370 --> 02:42:09,440
why they won't put it in writing it

3610
02:42:09,440 --> 02:42:13,291
makes me a little nervous

3611
02:42:13,301 --> 02:42:15,710
Councilwoman of our this thing on a

3612
02:42:15,710 --> 02:42:18,011
second anything

3613
02:42:18,011 --> 02:42:20,210
legal do you have anything to say about

3614
02:42:20,210 --> 02:42:23,910
this

3615
02:42:23,920 --> 02:42:27,080
so I can't answer councilman barish

3616
02:42:27,080 --> 02:42:28,460
question as to why they wouldn't want to

3617
02:42:28,460 --> 02:42:30,141
put that in writing but what I can say

3618
02:42:30,141 --> 02:42:32,780
is that there are legal mechanisms is if

3619
02:42:32,780 --> 02:42:36,340
they do agree with which you know we can

3620
02:42:36,340 --> 02:42:40,070
legitimately create an agreement for

3621
02:42:40,070 --> 02:42:42,471
maintenance of that road so there are

3622
02:42:42,471 --> 02:42:44,181
some options there of course an

3623
02:42:44,181 --> 02:42:46,130
agreement and implies that the other

3624
02:42:46,130 --> 02:42:50,301
person on the other side is an agreement to that and what I'm

3625
02:42:50,301 --> 02:42:51,440
hearing though is that they're not

3626
02:42:51,440 --> 02:42:55,480
willing to do so so

3627
02:42:55,480 --> 02:42:58,400
councilman Lanza go ahead there's other

3628
02:42:58,400 --> 02:43:01,160
industrial properties using that Road at

3629
02:43:01,160 --> 02:43:04,011
six tenths of a mile the brick plant

3630
02:43:04,011 --> 02:43:07,130
uses it Hanson uses it are we going to

3631
02:43:07,130 --> 02:43:09,400
get an agreement from everybody

3632
02:43:09,400 --> 02:43:11,650
legal

3633
02:43:11,650 --> 02:43:14,420
so the answer is that is normally how

3634
02:43:14,420 --> 02:43:16,190
it's done is that whoever the users of

3635
02:43:16,190 --> 02:43:19,431
the road are are working to a sort of an

3636
02:43:19,431 --> 02:43:20,840
assessment type of agreement so that

3637
02:43:20,840 --> 02:43:23,931
they pair pay a share of the upkeep and

3638
02:43:23,931 --> 02:43:24,761
maintenance

3639
02:43:24,761 --> 02:43:27,530
well then we might as well table this

3640
02:43:27,530 --> 02:43:29,030
for another six months fill we get that

3641
02:43:29,030 --> 02:43:30,950
agreement going I don't know what else

3642
02:43:30,950 --> 02:43:34,110
to do

3643
02:43:34,120 --> 02:43:38,210
sir i I am NOT trying to quarrel I'm

3644
02:43:38,210 --> 02:43:40,311
merely asking this is this is an

3645
02:43:40,311 --> 02:43:42,920
isolated segment and to be honest I

3646
02:43:42,920 --> 02:43:44,450
don't remember where it came from in

3647
02:43:44,450 --> 02:43:46,370
terms of I mean I know it's been on the

3648
02:43:46,370 --> 02:43:49,160
agenda okay but why are we singling them

3649
02:43:49,160 --> 02:43:51,590
out if everyone is using it so I is it

3650
02:43:51,590 --> 02:43:53,780
sort of a moot point I'm perhaps I'm

3651
02:43:53,780 --> 02:43:56,721
lost go ahead and explain okay I I have

3652
02:43:56,721 --> 02:43:58,790
no loyalty to these people whatsoever

3653
02:43:58,790 --> 02:44:01,070
the plant manager called me up we said

3654
02:44:01,070 --> 02:44:03,110
Brian he said our current route that we

3655
02:44:03,110 --> 02:44:06,261
take those through Old Town Co Mel goes

3656
02:44:06,261 --> 02:44:08,811
either past the new intermediate school

3657
02:44:08,811 --> 02:44:11,120
or it goes back

3658
02:44:11,120 --> 02:44:14,180
and we have we have that that picture I

3659
02:44:14,180 --> 02:44:17,120
had before it's a large triangle that

3660
02:44:17,120 --> 02:44:19,580
goes right back to 2250 to right before

3661
02:44:19,580 --> 02:44:23,240
I 35 he said can you see if we can

3662
02:44:23,240 --> 02:44:27,760
actually go legally from our plant to

3663
02:44:27,760 --> 02:44:30,560
22:52 and take a left and go to 35

3664
02:44:30,560 --> 02:44:33,050
instead of this this other route and I

3665
02:44:33,050 --> 02:44:35,570
said I'll try I don't care if we drop

3666
02:44:35,570 --> 02:44:37,430
this right now and I never talked the

3667
02:44:37,430 --> 02:44:39,470
man again it makes no difference to me

3668
02:44:39,470 --> 02:44:41,540
I'm just trying to protect the school

3669
02:44:41,540 --> 02:44:43,430
I'm trying to protect local count of the

3670
02:44:43,430 --> 02:44:46,910
old town area and Comal and then it only

3671
02:44:46,910 --> 02:44:48,770
makes sense that they are allowed to

3672
02:44:48,770 --> 02:44:51,229
drive an additional six tenths or a

3673
02:44:51,229 --> 02:44:53,510
toothed chance through the city limits

3674
02:44:53,510 --> 02:44:56,810
that's in an industrial area anyhow to

3675
02:44:56,810 --> 02:45:01,790
get to 22 52 inch straight 235 that's right that's where I'm at it

3676
02:45:01,790 --> 02:45:03,620
makes no difference to me okay so it's

3677
02:45:03,620 --> 02:45:05,930
essentially the lesser of however many

3678
02:45:05,930 --> 02:45:08,720
evils and do we have any input from PD

3679
02:45:08,720 --> 02:45:14,040
yes no

3680
02:45:14,050 --> 02:45:17,359
good I was originally the one that

3681
02:45:17,359 --> 02:45:19,100
suggested that we try to get Tim to

3682
02:45:19,100 --> 02:45:21,550
maintain it that is a world travel

3683
02:45:21,550 --> 02:45:24,399
industrial road

3684
02:45:24,399 --> 02:45:26,420
it's up to the council on what's

3685
02:45:26,420 --> 02:45:28,070
accountable what the council wants to do

3686
02:45:28,070 --> 02:45:31,370
that road is is getting torn up but as

3687
02:45:31,370 --> 02:45:34,820
councilman Lancie said they can already

3688
02:45:34,820 --> 02:45:36,740
use it to go in and out of the plant and

3689
02:45:36,740 --> 02:45:38,510
go back and forth all in aggregate back

3690
02:45:38,510 --> 02:45:40,850
and forth so I don't know what the

3691
02:45:40,850 --> 02:45:44,120
increase truck traffic would be that

3692
02:45:44,120 --> 02:45:46,010
would not be going into Hanson don't

3693
02:45:46,010 --> 02:45:47,710
know if it's if it's worth it or not

3694
02:45:47,710 --> 02:45:51,080
don't know if it's worth talking to

3695
02:45:51,080 --> 02:45:53,470
Hanson and them trying to get something

3696
02:45:53,470 --> 02:45:56,180
I was just making a recommendation

3697
02:45:56,180 --> 02:45:58,040
trying to look out for the city's best

3698
02:45:58,040 --> 02:46:00,140
interest on a road that's gonna cost a

3699
02:46:00,140 --> 02:46:05,470
considerable amount of money to fix

3700
02:46:05,480 --> 02:46:08,761
go ahead

3701
02:46:08,771 --> 02:46:12,200
they're already using it I'll put my dad

3702
02:46:12,200 --> 02:46:13,880
hat on and go the truck traffic that

3703
02:46:13,880 --> 02:46:16,120
goes in front of Danville middle school

3704
02:46:16,120 --> 02:46:18,440
driving that triangle that councilman

3705
02:46:18,440 --> 02:46:21,141
Delancey mentioned is hideous and causes

3706
02:46:21,141 --> 02:46:22,670
traffic problems because they're trying

3707
02:46:22,670 --> 02:46:23,980
to turn left

3708
02:46:23,980 --> 02:46:26,660
off of 42 or whatever that road is it

3709
02:46:26,660 --> 02:46:27,681
goes by in front of middles the

3710
02:46:27,681 --> 02:46:30,290
internment the middle school with all

3711
02:46:30,290 --> 02:46:31,521
the truck traffic already coming out

3712
02:46:31,521 --> 02:46:35,210
2252 i think it would greatly benefit

3713
02:46:35,210 --> 02:46:37,220
the parents that are driving their kids

3714
02:46:37,220 --> 02:46:39,470
to and from the middle school to allow

3715
02:46:39,470 --> 02:46:40,480
this

3716
02:46:40,480 --> 02:46:43,070
the one of the questions I've got is how

3717
02:46:43,070 --> 02:46:44,601
many Garden Road citizens live on that

3718
02:46:44,601 --> 02:46:47,260
6/10 stretch of road

3719
02:46:47,260 --> 02:46:50,360
none there's no impact on any residents

3720
02:46:50,360 --> 02:46:53,120
so if that road got toward a crap by all

3721
02:46:53,120 --> 02:46:54,561
these heavy trucks going on it and we

3722
02:46:54,561 --> 02:46:57,641
didn't fix it what happens to us

3723
02:46:57,641 --> 02:47:00,141
it doesn't impact our citizens the only

3724
02:47:00,141 --> 02:47:01,340
people that get impacted are the

3725
02:47:01,340 --> 02:47:02,960
businesses that are there and it's in

3726
02:47:02,960 --> 02:47:04,750
their vested interest to fix it

3727
02:47:04,750 --> 02:47:07,190
if we're not obligated to fix it when

3728
02:47:07,190 --> 02:47:09,110
they tear it up I'm not really worried

3729
02:47:09,110 --> 02:47:11,540
about a written agreement on their part

3730
02:47:11,540 --> 02:47:13,760
to fix it it'll become self critiquing

3731
02:47:13,760 --> 02:47:15,080
if they don't want to fix it in their

3732
02:47:15,080 --> 02:47:16,250
tear and axles out of their trucks

3733
02:47:16,250 --> 02:47:17,540
because the roads bed and we don't have

3734
02:47:17,540 --> 02:47:20,910
to fix it

3735
02:47:20,920 --> 02:47:22,910
cutting down on the truck traffic that

3736
02:47:22,910 --> 02:47:24,170
goes into the old Kamel settlement it

3737
02:47:24,170 --> 02:47:27,170
also goes in front of I believe the what

3738
02:47:27,170 --> 02:47:29,720
was Kemal elementary school now is Pope

3739
02:47:29,720 --> 02:47:31,940
John Paul or something the the Catholic

3740
02:47:31,940 --> 02:47:33,620
school that's there so you're having

3741
02:47:33,620 --> 02:47:34,910
truck traffic going through another

3742
02:47:34,910 --> 02:47:36,950
school zone versus you'd cut that out by

3743
02:47:36,950 --> 02:47:38,960
having it go this way I guess I'm trying

3744
02:47:38,960 --> 02:47:40,910
to give reasons in my mind why this is a

3745
02:47:40,910 --> 02:47:42,260
good idea and I can't come up with a

3746
02:47:42,260 --> 02:47:43,880
reason why it's a bad idea if it doesn't

3747
02:47:43,880 --> 02:47:46,641
impact any citizens so there's there's

3748
02:47:46,641 --> 02:47:49,000
my thoughts that's what I thought

3749
02:47:49,000 --> 02:47:51,500
councilman and it just it was common

3750
02:47:51,500 --> 02:47:52,450
sense

3751
02:47:52,450 --> 02:47:54,380
they're not gonna do us any harm

3752
02:47:54,380 --> 02:47:57,200
whatsoever and they're already used in

3753
02:47:57,200 --> 02:47:59,120
that he wouldn't go to 20 to 50 to the

3754
02:47:59,120 --> 02:48:01,880
day this plant manager called me I drove

3755
02:48:01,880 --> 02:48:04,460
towards a plant I counted six trucks

3756
02:48:04,460 --> 02:48:07,610
coming out of there their site went

3757
02:48:07,610 --> 02:48:10,550
straight to 2252 they just don't want to

3758
02:48:10,550 --> 02:48:12,950
be taking it from now on but they use it

3759
02:48:12,950 --> 02:48:15,640
all the time

3760
02:48:15,640 --> 02:48:17,159
I

3761
02:48:17,159 --> 02:48:21,260
know

3762
02:48:21,270 --> 02:48:25,659
okay so what do you wanna do I say for

3763
02:48:25,659 --> 02:48:27,879
the welfare of the children and the

3764
02:48:27,879 --> 02:48:29,520
parents and so on

3765
02:48:29,520 --> 02:48:32,340
we give it a try and

3766
02:48:32,340 --> 02:48:35,020
possibly consider down the line if if

3767
02:48:35,020 --> 02:48:36,760
there is an issue the fact that they

3768
02:48:36,760 --> 02:48:38,529
reached out I know it's to their benefit

3769
02:48:38,529 --> 02:48:41,069
but it sounds to me like with input from

3770
02:48:41,069 --> 02:48:44,020
parents and so on that possibly it's

3771
02:48:44,020 --> 02:48:44,909
safer

3772
02:48:44,909 --> 02:48:47,129
saver to allow it

3773
02:48:47,129 --> 02:48:50,909
so to be clear what is your motion

3774
02:48:50,909 --> 02:48:53,890
you're you're looking to accept give

3775
02:48:53,890 --> 02:48:57,159
them exception to ordinance 22 what

3776
02:48:57,159 --> 02:48:59,289
you're asking is the same as an

3777
02:48:59,289 --> 02:49:00,999
exception I wouldn't we don't is it

3778
02:49:00,999 --> 02:49:03,310
necessary to rewrite the ordinance well

3779
02:49:03,310 --> 02:49:05,050
we we have to revise the ordinance to

3780
02:49:05,050 --> 02:49:07,569
amend it to allow right to allow

3781
02:49:07,569 --> 02:49:11,560
specific cover that's right because we

3782
02:49:11,560 --> 02:49:13,419
have to rescind the change that put this

3783
02:49:13,419 --> 02:49:20,640
into place

3784
02:49:20,650 --> 02:49:22,021
right

3785
02:49:22,021 --> 02:49:24,460
so only an ordinance can change an

3786
02:49:24,460 --> 02:49:25,870
ordinance so if we're going to do

3787
02:49:25,870 --> 02:49:27,641
anything to allow them to drive that we

3788
02:49:27,641 --> 02:49:29,591
either need to rescind the the previous

3789
02:49:29,591 --> 02:49:32,500
amendment or right in some other change

3790
02:49:32,500 --> 02:49:37,371
within the ordinance to make that happen

3791
02:49:37,381 --> 02:49:39,841
right so not to specify

3792
02:49:39,841 --> 02:49:43,530
companies per se but to allow commercial

3793
02:49:43,530 --> 02:49:47,200
tractor trailer traffic that would be my

3794
02:49:47,200 --> 02:49:49,110
motion

3795
02:49:49,110 --> 02:49:54,110
say it again I

3796
02:49:54,120 --> 02:49:56,351
recommend we amend the ordinance to

3797
02:49:56,351 --> 02:49:59,460
include to allow

3798
02:49:59,460 --> 02:50:02,431
commercial

3799
02:50:02,431 --> 02:50:05,250
class whatever it is

3800
02:50:05,250 --> 02:50:07,681
tractor trailer

3801
02:50:07,681 --> 02:50:10,690
travel and it's not necessarily tractor

3802
02:50:10,690 --> 02:50:15,960
trailer for me okay commercial truck

3803
02:50:15,960 --> 02:50:20,040
traffic on that specific route

3804
02:50:20,040 --> 02:50:23,230
okay thank you mm-hmm I have a motion

3805
02:50:23,230 --> 02:50:25,351
please five can I get a second

3806
02:50:25,351 --> 02:50:28,480
Zagat second place for any further

3807
02:50:28,480 --> 02:50:31,230
discussion of questions all in favor

3808
02:50:31,230 --> 02:50:35,820
any opposed there's unanimous thank you

3809
02:50:35,820 --> 02:50:38,341
and number ten e

3810
02:50:38,341 --> 02:50:42,940
coordinates 2 & 7 0 1 2 0 1 9 this is

3811
02:50:42,940 --> 02:50:46,420
the sex offender ordinance and we

3812
02:50:46,420 --> 02:50:49,440
received a petition that

3813
02:50:49,440 --> 02:50:52,450
somebody says that they they believe

3814
02:50:52,450 --> 02:50:53,641
they're

3815
02:50:53,641 --> 02:50:56,170
there an exception to the ordinance and

3816
02:50:56,170 --> 02:50:59,261
they want to be able to be accepted you

3817
02:50:59,261 --> 02:51:02,141
received a discussion and you received a

3818
02:51:02,141 --> 02:51:04,601
note from the petitioner and you just

3819
02:51:04,601 --> 02:51:06,460
received a legal opinion a discussion

3820
02:51:06,460 --> 02:51:11,230
from our attorney so I'd like to hand it

3821
02:51:11,230 --> 02:51:12,631
over to

3822
02:51:12,631 --> 02:51:17,450
mr. Trevino to explain

3823
02:51:17,460 --> 02:51:21,641
in analyzing the ordinance and based on

3824
02:51:21,641 --> 02:51:22,931
the information contained within the

3825
02:51:22,931 --> 02:51:25,601
petition we find that the petitioner

3826
02:51:25,601 --> 02:51:28,420
does not meet any of the written

3827
02:51:28,420 --> 02:51:29,980
exemptions that are contained within the

3828
02:51:29,980 --> 02:51:32,620
ordinance there is one provision within

3829
02:51:32,620 --> 02:51:34,330
the ordinance section mind that allows

3830
02:51:34,330 --> 02:51:35,859
counsel

3831
02:51:35,859 --> 02:51:39,550
to grant an ordinance or an exception to

3832
02:51:39,550 --> 02:51:41,169
the ordinance if it so chooses to

3833
02:51:41,169 --> 02:51:45,850
however that granting is limited it is

3834
02:51:45,850 --> 02:51:48,399
limited by the fact that the council can

3835
02:51:48,399 --> 02:51:50,770
either do it on their own authority but

3836
02:51:50,770 --> 02:51:53,220
based on an independent

3837
02:51:53,220 --> 02:51:56,680
analysis or an independent risk analysis

3838
02:51:56,680 --> 02:51:59,229
done for that particular offender and to

3839
02:51:59,229 --> 02:52:01,149
my knowledge the city hasn't the

3840
02:52:01,149 --> 02:52:03,279
petition was not accompanied with any

3841
02:52:03,279 --> 02:52:05,919
type of independent analysis of risk for

3842
02:52:05,919 --> 02:52:08,949
this particular offender so based on

3843
02:52:08,949 --> 02:52:11,260
that the council doesn't meet the

3844
02:52:11,260 --> 02:52:13,390
threshold to grant an exception under

3845
02:52:13,390 --> 02:52:15,579
its own authority without meeting those

3846
02:52:15,579 --> 02:52:18,600
particular parameters of the ordinance

3847
02:52:18,600 --> 02:52:22,270
so put in plain English this petitioner

3848
02:52:22,270 --> 02:52:23,859
is saying that there you have an

3849
02:52:23,859 --> 02:52:26,350
exception and legally that exception

3850
02:52:26,350 --> 02:52:29,020
does not is not met flatout that's

3851
02:52:29,020 --> 02:52:31,079
basically what it comes down to

3852
02:52:31,079 --> 02:52:32,640
so

3853
02:52:32,640 --> 02:52:36,430
questions comments and questions for our

3854
02:52:36,430 --> 02:52:40,790
attorney start on the right side I

3855
02:52:40,800 --> 02:52:44,289
I'm inclined just to do nothing because

3856
02:52:44,289 --> 02:52:45,629
I

3857
02:52:45,629 --> 02:52:48,629
don't want to change it

3858
02:52:48,629 --> 02:52:52,089
if I will the way that the ordinance is

3859
02:52:52,089 --> 02:52:54,669
written counsel is required to take and

3860
02:52:54,669 --> 02:52:56,560
document an action in the in the minutes

3861
02:52:56,560 --> 02:52:59,229
so you it can be as simple as the motion

3862
02:52:59,229 --> 02:53:06,229
to say you find no exception and tonight

3863
02:53:06,239 --> 02:53:09,640
we do exceptions and variances on a

3864
02:53:09,640 --> 02:53:11,890
regular basis we shouldn't be doing

3865
02:53:11,890 --> 02:53:15,310
those what we do this is one line that

3866
02:53:15,310 --> 02:53:16,779
we're going to draw I'm going to draw

3867
02:53:16,779 --> 02:53:20,569
and say absolutely not

3868
02:53:20,579 --> 02:53:23,489
Pam you're like in motion

3869
02:53:23,489 --> 02:53:26,439
your thoughts and the motion yes my

3870
02:53:26,439 --> 02:53:27,510
thoughts are

3871
02:53:27,510 --> 02:53:32,379
based on legal advice we do not accept

3872
02:53:32,379 --> 02:53:34,510
the request okay can I get a motion

3873
02:53:34,510 --> 02:53:35,789
please

3874
02:53:35,789 --> 02:53:39,159
move to deny the request for exemption

3875
02:53:39,159 --> 02:53:43,600
from our ordinance 22 - oh seven 201

3876
02:53:43,600 --> 02:53:47,680
nine based on legal advice I think

3877
02:53:47,680 --> 02:53:49,029
there's no justification

3878
02:53:49,029 --> 02:53:50,729
thank you have a motion to deny this

3879
02:53:50,729 --> 02:53:54,479
petition can I get a second well

3880
02:53:54,479 --> 02:54:01,309
oh

3881
02:54:01,319 --> 02:54:03,670
did she read the wrong ordinance I mean

3882
02:54:03,670 --> 02:54:05,859
oh that's the street that's regulating

3883
02:54:05,859 --> 02:54:07,989
the traffic I'm sorry I didn't even

3884
02:54:07,989 --> 02:54:10,330
catch them thank you for catching us so

3885
02:54:10,330 --> 02:54:12,960
it's ordinance 2-1

3886
02:54:12,960 --> 02:54:16,450
70s I'd like to amend my amendment to

3887
02:54:16,450 --> 02:54:18,880
state ordinance I don't care about the

3888
02:54:18,880 --> 02:54:21,489
traffic ordinance two one seven zero one

3889
02:54:21,489 --> 02:54:25,029
two oh one nine please okay so place

3890
02:54:25,029 --> 02:54:29,649
five as has made a motion to deny the

3891
02:54:29,649 --> 02:54:32,260
petition for the exception of ordinance

3892
02:54:32,260 --> 02:54:35,760
two one seven can I get a second please

3893
02:54:35,760 --> 02:54:37,350
I

3894
02:54:37,350 --> 02:54:39,489
have place for with a second any further

3895
02:54:39,489 --> 02:54:41,590
discussion or questions yes I'd like to

3896
02:54:41,590 --> 02:54:43,239
thank the chief for appearing the rocks

3897
02:54:43,239 --> 02:54:45,810
in his head go back and forth

3898
02:54:45,810 --> 02:54:47,880
all in favor

3899
02:54:47,880 --> 02:54:51,760
any opposed is unanimous thank you thank

3900
02:54:51,760 --> 02:54:54,729
you mr. bean you okay moving on in item

3901
02:54:54,729 --> 02:54:56,200
11 an update city administrator reports

3902
02:54:56,200 --> 02:54:57,960
update on CIP

3903
02:54:57,960 --> 02:55:01,109
we have completed all

3904
02:55:01,109 --> 02:55:04,770
renovations in the park community center

3905
02:55:04,770 --> 02:55:07,050
municipal Parkway

3906
02:55:07,050 --> 02:55:09,220
restriping the only thing we have

3907
02:55:09,220 --> 02:55:12,040
outstanding is payment of the drainage

3908
02:55:12,040 --> 02:55:14,620
property project associated with vines

3909
02:55:14,620 --> 02:55:17,160
Elaine and

3910
02:55:17,160 --> 02:55:19,899
some outstanding engineering fees that

3911
02:55:19,899 --> 02:55:21,760
would be associated with that project as

3912
02:55:21,760 --> 02:55:25,750
well so we are almost completed all of

3913
02:55:25,750 --> 02:55:28,569
our projects and as we heard from our

3914
02:55:28,569 --> 02:55:29,609
engineer

3915
02:55:29,609 --> 02:55:33,720
we're getting close to having that

3916
02:55:33,720 --> 02:55:37,770
the conditions the vegetation all

3917
02:55:37,770 --> 02:55:39,550
satisfied and that was kind of we're

3918
02:55:39,550 --> 02:55:40,870
holding back the money for the

3919
02:55:40,870 --> 02:55:43,120
vegetation so as soon as that's done and

3920
02:55:43,120 --> 02:55:45,040
possibly a little bit of outstanding

3921
02:55:45,040 --> 02:55:46,840
engineering fees will finally be able to

3922
02:55:46,840 --> 02:55:49,830
put that CIP down for good

3923
02:55:49,830 --> 02:55:52,899
an update on city use of password

3924
02:55:52,899 --> 02:55:57,160
management city secretary

3925
02:55:57,170 --> 02:55:59,540
so I know I had originally said we were

3926
02:55:59,540 --> 02:56:01,399
going to try to do implementation and

3927
02:56:01,399 --> 02:56:03,170
training sessions at the last week of

3928
02:56:03,170 --> 02:56:06,140
October but early voting kind of sprung

3929
02:56:06,140 --> 02:56:09,470
upon us that we had not thought about so

3930
02:56:09,470 --> 02:56:11,569
we were not able to use this room so

3931
02:56:11,569 --> 02:56:13,520
we're still looking at dates but I don't

3932
02:56:13,520 --> 02:56:17,120
have anybody on council that has created

3933
02:56:17,120 --> 02:56:20,090
their account yet so make sure that you

3934
02:56:20,090 --> 02:56:22,850
are receives the email I need to make

3935
02:56:22,850 --> 02:56:24,770
sure that everybody got the email I know

3936
02:56:24,770 --> 02:56:26,479
I've talked to a couple of y'all and

3937
02:56:26,479 --> 02:56:28,609
that has had questions so I know those

3938
02:56:28,609 --> 02:56:30,470
have got the email but if you haven't

3939
02:56:30,470 --> 02:56:31,880
received the email at the invitation

3940
02:56:31,880 --> 02:56:33,560
please let me know so I can resend it

3941
02:56:33,560 --> 02:56:36,500
and then when you you need to create an

3942
02:56:36,500 --> 02:56:38,569
account it's pretty easy but if you have

3943
02:56:38,569 --> 02:56:41,420
questions feel free to ask myself or Kat

3944
02:56:41,420 --> 02:56:44,649
she knows how to do it as well

3945
02:56:44,649 --> 02:56:46,510
any questions

3946
02:56:46,510 --> 02:56:50,630
for our city secretary comments okay

3947
02:56:50,630 --> 02:56:52,359
thank you very much

3948
02:56:52,359 --> 02:56:56,659
item 11 be the communication report if

3949
02:56:56,659 --> 02:56:58,819
your if you happen to notice the

3950
02:56:58,819 --> 02:57:00,939
electronic sign is

3951
02:57:00,939 --> 02:57:03,920
has been removed the electronic sign

3952
02:57:03,920 --> 02:57:04,909
that hasn't worked for a while that

3953
02:57:04,909 --> 02:57:07,640
would have cost us a fortune to fix

3954
02:57:07,640 --> 02:57:10,939
we've finally removed it also another

3955
02:57:10,939 --> 02:57:12,590
communication thing is the consent

3956
02:57:12,590 --> 02:57:17,470
agenda and I just want to I want to pull

3957
02:57:17,470 --> 02:57:22,670
counsel and make sure that everybody is an agreement with the intention to

3958
02:57:22,670 --> 02:57:24,949
put non-controversial things out there

3959
02:57:24,949 --> 02:57:26,930
give you lots of time to look at it ask

3960
02:57:26,930 --> 02:57:30,260
questions of staff but then to make

3961
02:57:30,260 --> 02:57:31,699
these meetings try to make these

3962
02:57:31,699 --> 02:57:33,260
meetings shorter by DL until do that

3963
02:57:33,260 --> 02:57:37,460
again I'm well aware that it may be made

3964
02:57:37,460 --> 02:57:38,810
somebody may think oh you're know want

3965
02:57:38,810 --> 02:57:41,290
to talk about it in public but we still

3966
02:57:41,290 --> 02:57:43,550
people will be able to read these

3967
02:57:43,550 --> 02:57:45,020
packages well ahead of time they'll

3968
02:57:45,020 --> 02:57:47,000
always be able to poll you or myself

3969
02:57:47,000 --> 02:57:48,770
what's going on what are we doing about

3970
02:57:48,770 --> 02:57:50,479
this that or the other even before the

3971
02:57:50,479 --> 02:57:52,790
decisions are made and in any time

3972
02:57:52,790 --> 02:57:54,710
anything becomes controversial in your

3973
02:57:54,710 --> 02:57:56,720
mind you can let staff know ahead of

3974
02:57:56,720 --> 02:57:58,189
time and we'll pull it off the consent

3975
02:57:58,189 --> 02:58:00,439
agenda and of course you can always do

3976
02:58:00,439 --> 02:58:01,670
it in the meeting too

3977
02:58:01,670 --> 02:58:04,609
so any questions or comments on that

3978
02:58:04,609 --> 02:58:07,130
action because it is or moving forward

3979
02:58:07,130 --> 02:58:09,880
with that so no I'm very much in favor

3980
02:58:09,880 --> 02:58:12,550
of it and just like you said after

3981
02:58:12,550 --> 02:58:14,021
reading them

3982
02:58:14,021 --> 02:58:16,780
there was nothing I really wanted to go

3983
02:58:16,780 --> 02:58:18,660
over

3984
02:58:18,660 --> 02:58:21,370
so we still have that opportunity if

3985
02:58:21,370 --> 02:58:24,870
necessary great thank you

3986
02:58:24,870 --> 02:58:28,330
I love the idea because it's three

3987
02:58:28,330 --> 02:58:29,500
minutes to 9:00 and we've still got a

3988
02:58:29,500 --> 02:58:32,370
bunch of work left to do yes we do I

3989
02:58:32,370 --> 02:58:35,141
like it and I think this time it seemed

3990
02:58:35,141 --> 02:58:36,870
that we had

3991
02:58:36,870 --> 02:58:39,160
more supportive backup or more

3992
02:58:39,160 --> 02:58:41,050
clarification maybe in our backup yes

3993
02:58:41,050 --> 02:58:43,750
that helped yes and and and thank staff

3994
02:58:43,750 --> 02:58:45,910
for that you know some of the stuff in

3995
02:58:45,910 --> 02:58:48,460
there I'll say like from the PD great

3996
02:58:48,460 --> 02:58:51,340
background great explanation but again

3997
02:58:51,340 --> 02:58:53,290
if you look at it and you're not getting

3998
02:58:53,290 --> 02:58:55,271
what you need we're gonna send this to

3999
02:58:55,271 --> 02:58:56,500
you early enough that you have enough

4000
02:58:56,500 --> 02:58:58,360
time to come back to staff and and get

4001
02:58:58,360 --> 02:59:00,610
questions answered and we can republish

4002
02:59:00,610 --> 02:59:02,920
to all of you more of the information or

4003
02:59:02,920 --> 02:59:04,750
anything you need so we'll make sure it

4004
02:59:04,750 --> 02:59:13,921
happens okay good thank you

4005
02:59:13,931 --> 02:59:16,271
citizen contact report we get a couple

4006
02:59:16,271 --> 02:59:18,450
things want to let you know about

4007
02:59:18,450 --> 02:59:20,620
you know we've done a lot of the work on

4008
02:59:20,620 --> 02:59:24,700
sumac circle with drainage and we had a

4009
02:59:24,700 --> 02:59:29,500
neighbor of the lot that we did all the

4010
02:59:29,500 --> 02:59:31,330
work on saying okay you've done all this

4011
02:59:31,330 --> 02:59:32,950
work and how how is this not gonna

4012
02:59:32,950 --> 02:59:35,980
affect me which is logical and a very

4013
02:59:35,980 --> 02:59:40,540
good question so our are at our city

4014
02:59:40,540 --> 02:59:42,400
administrator spent considerable time

4015
02:59:42,400 --> 02:59:44,950
explaining to these folks what was done

4016
02:59:44,950 --> 02:59:48,610
and that we would we would keep a close

4017
02:59:48,610 --> 02:59:51,101
eye on it and connected these folks also

4018
02:59:51,101 --> 02:59:53,290
with Public Works and mr. Steinmetz so

4019
02:59:53,290 --> 02:59:56,440
they are satisfied that that we've done

4020
02:59:56,440 --> 02:59:58,061
what we could do as well as we're going

4021
02:59:58,061 --> 02:59:59,650
to keep track of it and keep watch of it

4022
02:59:59,650 --> 03:00:01,391
to make sure that that would they

4023
03:00:01,391 --> 03:00:02,860
haven't forgotten them so that's a

4024
03:00:02,860 --> 03:00:04,570
that's great work on both Public Works

4025
03:00:04,570 --> 03:00:06,090
and admin

4026
03:00:06,090 --> 03:00:12,660
city administrators thing and I think we have them to thank for that

4027
03:00:12,660 --> 03:00:17,771
we had some issues with some pothole and then also was kind of the

4028
03:00:17,771 --> 03:00:20,261
side of the road that was eroding Vincey

4029
03:00:20,261 --> 03:00:21,430
land also

4030
03:00:21,430 --> 03:00:23,260
bad cave for those of you keeping track

4031
03:00:23,260 --> 03:00:25,270
back Haven isn't even our road but

4032
03:00:25,270 --> 03:00:27,970
because we're always trying to help our

4033
03:00:27,970 --> 03:00:30,609
public works even repaired a piece of

4034
03:00:30,609 --> 03:00:33,399
bat cave and let let our County folks

4035
03:00:33,399 --> 03:00:35,529
know that we did that because it was a

4036
03:00:35,529 --> 03:00:38,199
hazard to our our citizens but also

4037
03:00:38,199 --> 03:00:41,199
repaired pothole on Ben seal and that

4038
03:00:41,199 --> 03:00:46,800
came from a coffee coffee with the mayor

4039
03:00:46,800 --> 03:00:48,520
discussion where somebody brought that

4040
03:00:48,520 --> 03:00:49,569
in and said hey we got some problems

4041
03:00:49,569 --> 03:00:52,119
with this and then another one that was

4042
03:00:52,119 --> 03:00:54,039
a coffee with the mayor thing was the

4043
03:00:54,039 --> 03:00:55,989
drainage ditch at some 2252 which is

4044
03:00:55,989 --> 03:00:57,659
actually text dots

4045
03:00:57,659 --> 03:01:01,180
area but it has an effect on RMS for you

4046
03:01:01,180 --> 03:01:01,829
know

4047
03:01:01,829 --> 03:01:04,569
mr. Steinmetz spent considerable time

4048
03:01:04,569 --> 03:01:06,879
putting together the answers and the

4049
03:01:06,879 --> 03:01:10,899
report to satisfy the federal and state

4050
03:01:10,899 --> 03:01:14,289
requirements for ms4 and we are that's

4051
03:01:14,289 --> 03:01:16,089
why we you see more things on the sign

4052
03:01:16,089 --> 03:01:19,539
about about about ms four types of

4053
03:01:19,539 --> 03:01:23,589
issues but also he is working with text

4054
03:01:23,589 --> 03:01:26,050
out to to clean that out because it does

4055
03:01:26,050 --> 03:01:28,359
have a direct effect on on the flow and

4056
03:01:28,359 --> 03:01:31,659
into our area so something that Public

4057
03:01:31,659 --> 03:01:33,999
Works kind of over over and above again

4058
03:01:33,999 --> 03:01:36,489
so to to over and above with Public

4059
03:01:36,489 --> 03:01:39,159
Works some contact with citizens so

4060
03:01:39,159 --> 03:01:41,589
thank you very much anybody have any

4061
03:01:41,589 --> 03:01:44,609
questions or comments on any of those

4062
03:01:44,609 --> 03:01:46,899
City facility update the audiovisual

4063
03:01:46,899 --> 03:01:49,439
upgrades and streaming handed over to

4064
03:01:49,439 --> 03:01:52,899
city secretary worsen so we are now

4065
03:01:52,899 --> 03:01:54,819
streaming all of the Commission meetings

4066
03:01:54,819 --> 03:01:56,680
that started in October they are all

4067
03:01:56,680 --> 03:01:58,869
going to the YouTube channel for the

4068
03:01:58,869 --> 03:02:00,629
city's YouTube channel and

4069
03:02:00,629 --> 03:02:03,789
for civic Clerk which is the software

4070
03:02:03,789 --> 03:02:06,339
portal where you can see the indexing of

4071
03:02:06,339 --> 03:02:09,069
the agenda to the video they are working

4072
03:02:09,069 --> 03:02:11,739
on integrating all of what we currently

4073
03:02:11,739 --> 03:02:14,669
have on our agenda Center on the website

4074
03:02:14,669 --> 03:02:17,979
into their portal which they should have

4075
03:02:17,979 --> 03:02:20,319
done I probably next week when we meet

4076
03:02:20,319 --> 03:02:22,449
with them again so our meeting was a

4077
03:02:22,449 --> 03:02:23,800
little later we would have it in

4078
03:02:23,800 --> 03:02:26,109
November but we will definitely have

4079
03:02:26,109 --> 03:02:27,970
that available to the public at our

4080
03:02:27,970 --> 03:02:30,029
December meeting they'll be able to view

4081
03:02:30,029 --> 03:02:33,669
the meeting live from the city's website

4082
03:02:33,669 --> 03:02:37,540
council me and then after the fact they

4083
03:02:37,540 --> 03:02:38,860
will be able to see the bookmarks

4084
03:02:38,860 --> 03:02:40,180
obviously the bookmarks aren't available

4085
03:02:40,180 --> 03:02:41,860
if you're watching the live video

4086
03:02:41,860 --> 03:02:44,500
they're not available until after the

4087
03:02:44,500 --> 03:02:46,930
meeting but that will for sure be done

4088
03:02:46,930 --> 03:02:49,060
the December council meeting they'll be

4089
03:02:49,060 --> 03:02:51,640
able to watch that and that that's a

4090
03:02:51,640 --> 03:02:53,350
that's great progress thank you so much

4091
03:02:53,350 --> 03:02:55,330
anybody have any comments or questions

4092
03:02:55,330 --> 03:02:58,830
former sana okay

4093
03:02:58,830 --> 03:03:01,270
ordinance revision process were working

4094
03:03:01,270 --> 03:03:03,180
zoning buildings and

4095
03:03:03,180 --> 03:03:07,420
water as you know and then parks as soon

4096
03:03:07,420 --> 03:03:11,710
as we finish the work around the the new

4097
03:03:11,710 --> 03:03:14,260
pavilion will then work that pavilion

4098
03:03:14,260 --> 03:03:15,420
into the parks coordinates as well

4099
03:03:15,420 --> 03:03:19,480
textile coordination if you recall text

4100
03:03:19,480 --> 03:03:24,430
dot told me that the speed limit on 20

4101
03:03:24,430 --> 03:03:27,780
and 3.9 would be changed in October and

4102
03:03:27,780 --> 03:03:30,370
if you've driven on three double O nine

4103
03:03:30,370 --> 03:03:32,560
you see that it has not changed a lot of

4104
03:03:32,560 --> 03:03:34,180
people were telling me that they kept

4105
03:03:34,180 --> 03:03:35,800
asking me throughout October why it

4106
03:03:35,800 --> 03:03:37,450
hasn't happened and I figured if the

4107
03:03:37,450 --> 03:03:38,530
minimum wasn't good enough it wouldn't

4108
03:03:38,530 --> 03:03:39,970
be the minimum so I waited until

4109
03:03:39,970 --> 03:03:42,640
November 1st and called and I have no

4110
03:03:42,640 --> 03:03:44,110
answer yet they haven't answered me they

4111
03:03:44,110 --> 03:03:45,370
don't know they don't know what's going

4112
03:03:45,370 --> 03:03:48,660
on so I'll keep you posted on that but

4113
03:03:48,660 --> 03:03:51,430
as it stands right now I'm waiting for a

4114
03:03:51,430 --> 03:03:54,310
call back from from the point of contact

4115
03:03:54,310 --> 03:03:57,130
on that so no change in the speed limit

4116
03:03:57,130 --> 03:03:58,020
yet

4117
03:03:58,020 --> 03:04:00,820
number six Garden Ridge elementary

4118
03:04:00,820 --> 03:04:02,050
school traffic flow and three double O

4119
03:04:02,050 --> 03:04:03,940
nine safety the traffic flow with three

4120
03:04:03,940 --> 03:04:06,190
double or not or excuse me with Garden

4121
03:04:06,190 --> 03:04:08,500
Ridge elementary school as obviously

4122
03:04:08,500 --> 03:04:10,630
improved tremendously with of them

4123
03:04:10,630 --> 03:04:12,760
allowing two lanes going in there the

4124
03:04:12,760 --> 03:04:16,150
issue though is we now have just traffic

4125
03:04:16,150 --> 03:04:18,370
during that time increased traffic on

4126
03:04:18,370 --> 03:04:19,600
three double O nine makes it really

4127
03:04:19,600 --> 03:04:20,950
difficult for somebody that lives in

4128
03:04:20,950 --> 03:04:22,300
trophy Oaks to get out of their

4129
03:04:22,300 --> 03:04:26,140
neighborhood and and it cues back quite

4130
03:04:26,140 --> 03:04:29,050
a ways and when I get the answer from

4131
03:04:29,050 --> 03:04:30,850
text dot the next our next thing is

4132
03:04:30,850 --> 03:04:32,080
we're gonna ask him if there's any way

4133
03:04:32,080 --> 03:04:34,240
they can look at making more of a turn

4134
03:04:34,240 --> 03:04:40,510
lane going into municipal Parkway some people are

4135
03:04:40,510 --> 03:04:42,730
creating a turn lane I was educated that

4136
03:04:42,730 --> 03:04:44,770
as long as they stay on blacktop they're

4137
03:04:44,770 --> 03:04:46,750
not breaking the law if they go into the

4138
03:04:46,750 --> 03:04:49,079
dirt to to create a turn lane there now

4139
03:04:49,079 --> 03:04:52,020
breaking a law but so we've got a mixed

4140
03:04:52,020 --> 03:04:53,520
bag of some people that are doing both

4141
03:04:53,520 --> 03:04:55,739
but it's still not it's not an ideal

4142
03:04:55,739 --> 03:04:57,930
situation we're addressing we're

4143
03:04:57,930 --> 03:04:59,460
addressing that with them so we'll see

4144
03:04:59,460 --> 03:05:02,670
but three double nine continues to be an

4145
03:05:02,670 --> 03:05:04,439
issue with with traffic particularly at

4146
03:05:04,439 --> 03:05:07,170
those those peak hours anybody have any

4147
03:05:07,170 --> 03:05:09,079
questions or comments on that

4148
03:05:09,079 --> 03:05:11,840
they're going out of their way to

4149
03:05:11,840 --> 03:05:13,920
increase the size of the road in front

4150
03:05:13,920 --> 03:05:16,140
of the new high school yeah they're

4151
03:05:16,140 --> 03:05:17,609
making every effort to do that but

4152
03:05:17,609 --> 03:05:20,300
they're not gonna help us a bit

4153
03:05:20,300 --> 03:05:21,949
anything else

4154
03:05:21,949 --> 03:05:25,470
okay City Council projects new resident

4155
03:05:25,470 --> 03:05:28,649
package got the council woman's went and

4156
03:05:28,649 --> 03:05:31,319
Bower on that any updates on that well

4157
03:05:31,319 --> 03:05:34,199
we were slowly but surely but maybe not

4158
03:05:34,199 --> 03:05:38,039
surely moving along i we did ask for

4159
03:05:38,039 --> 03:05:41,399
input from staff as to ideas that they

4160
03:05:41,399 --> 03:05:44,149
might have to expand it the

4161
03:05:44,149 --> 03:05:46,109
documentation that you gave me earlier

4162
03:05:46,109 --> 03:05:49,260
and we all feel like they've all

4163
03:05:49,260 --> 03:05:51,060
expressed the thought that they actually

4164
03:05:51,060 --> 03:05:53,399
like the interaction with citizens

4165
03:05:53,399 --> 03:05:55,829
whether they be new citizens or current

4166
03:05:55,829 --> 03:05:57,539
citizens and so on so they they actually

4167
03:05:57,539 --> 03:05:59,999
like the face to face so it would

4168
03:05:59,999 --> 03:06:01,800
suggest that possibly we create a PDF

4169
03:06:01,800 --> 03:06:05,189
file with a link to our city website but

4170
03:06:05,189 --> 03:06:07,229
also the availability of texting or

4171
03:06:07,229 --> 03:06:10,170
emailing new residents as as well for

4172
03:06:10,170 --> 03:06:12,420
information so it's not to exclude the

4173
03:06:12,420 --> 03:06:14,939
paper the paper version for those who

4174
03:06:14,939 --> 03:06:18,649
aren't electronically you know inclined

4175
03:06:18,649 --> 03:06:21,659
but it's its remains sort of a work in

4176
03:06:21,659 --> 03:06:22,949
progress and I don't know that we're

4177
03:06:22,949 --> 03:06:24,539
gonna get anything done in December or

4178
03:06:24,539 --> 03:06:27,800
November for that matter

4179
03:06:27,800 --> 03:06:29,670
thanks for the work you've done on it

4180
03:06:29,670 --> 03:06:31,829
you want it to stay on here do you want

4181
03:06:31,829 --> 03:06:33,029
to come off and come back on when you

4182
03:06:33,029 --> 03:06:34,470
want it to come back on what's your

4183
03:06:34,470 --> 03:06:37,120
choice

4184
03:06:37,130 --> 03:06:40,289
sorry my mic on take it off for December

4185
03:06:40,289 --> 03:06:43,199
and will redress in January okay thanks

4186
03:06:43,199 --> 03:06:46,859
links with city council meetings number two on here in it's councilman

4187
03:06:46,859 --> 03:06:49,229
Lansing comments if it is agreeable the

4188
03:06:49,229 --> 03:06:51,090
councilman Bauer it is agreeable to

4189
03:06:51,090 --> 03:06:54,899
councilman Swint and myself to take 11c

4190
03:06:54,899 --> 03:06:56,779
and move the entire thing to next month

4191
03:06:56,779 --> 03:06:59,310
we have a lot to cover before the end of

4192
03:06:59,310 --> 03:07:01,320
this evening

4193
03:07:01,320 --> 03:07:05,439
okay well it's just two items left so so

4194
03:07:05,439 --> 03:07:08,979
you so you want to move this you want to

4195
03:07:08,979 --> 03:07:14,570
defer till next month yes okay

4196
03:07:14,580 --> 03:07:16,990
well I don't understand number two is

4197
03:07:16,990 --> 03:07:19,320
just doors

4198
03:07:19,320 --> 03:07:22,030
mayor we've already done number one got

4199
03:07:22,030 --> 03:07:25,720
three okay I want mine to move to that next

4200
03:07:25,720 --> 03:07:27,670
one thing how's it that sounds great

4201
03:07:27,670 --> 03:07:30,850
thank you and number three is councilman

4202
03:07:30,850 --> 03:07:32,950
Bower mine is very brief I have no

4203
03:07:32,950 --> 03:07:34,680
answers to the

4204
03:07:34,680 --> 03:07:36,910
comments I made last month up regarding

4205
03:07:36,910 --> 03:07:39,939
pets one little anecdotal thing again I

4206
03:07:39,939 --> 03:07:42,250
address cats I'm not an anti cat person

4207
03:07:42,250 --> 03:07:45,189
please understand but since that meeting

4208
03:07:45,189 --> 03:07:48,340
I was alerted by a neighbor that that

4209
03:07:48,340 --> 03:07:49,930
black cat that we have seen in our

4210
03:07:49,930 --> 03:07:51,580
neighborhood that continues to enter my

4211
03:07:51,580 --> 03:07:54,430
yard and her yard attacked her cat her

4212
03:07:54,430 --> 03:07:56,740
cat became sick and died we cannot catch

4213
03:07:56,740 --> 03:07:58,630
that cat and that's an example of

4214
03:07:58,630 --> 03:08:00,670
somebody being irresponsible whether

4215
03:08:00,670 --> 03:08:02,770
they let that cat go or whatever I've

4216
03:08:02,770 --> 03:08:04,720
tried everything my power and it came

4217
03:08:04,720 --> 03:08:06,370
very close to one of my dogs catching

4218
03:08:06,370 --> 03:08:07,930
that cat and if that cat is sick and

4219
03:08:07,930 --> 03:08:19,031
makes my dog sick

4220
03:08:19,041 --> 03:08:22,801
front yard and it's not for my dogs that

4221
03:08:22,801 --> 03:08:24,631
tells me there's a dog running loose now

4222
03:08:24,631 --> 03:08:27,211
- but please just let's everybody try

4223
03:08:27,211 --> 03:08:29,011
because now if it's becoming an issue

4224
03:08:29,011 --> 03:08:30,291
with

4225
03:08:30,291 --> 03:08:32,911
contaminated animals contaminating other

4226
03:08:32,911 --> 03:08:36,391
people and other people's yards I came

4227
03:08:36,391 --> 03:08:38,700
that cat came very close to losing its

4228
03:08:38,700 --> 03:08:41,131
life if I had not intervened at this at

4229
03:08:41,131 --> 03:08:43,021
the very last minute with one of my dogs

4230
03:08:43,021 --> 03:08:45,271
and it would not be my dog's fault so I

4231
03:08:45,271 --> 03:08:48,001
just beg you please people let's really

4232
03:08:48,001 --> 03:08:52,501
try thank you that's it and all I'd all

4233
03:08:52,501 --> 03:08:54,511
I'd add is have you called Animal

4234
03:08:54,511 --> 03:08:56,511
Control on it

4235
03:08:56,511 --> 03:08:59,581
you know I did not because mr. Loman was

4236
03:08:59,581 --> 03:09:01,471
out of commission I didn't feel like it

4237
03:09:01,471 --> 03:09:03,261
was in I haven't seen the cat

4238
03:09:03,261 --> 03:09:06,331
please consider call because it'll also

4239
03:09:06,331 --> 03:09:08,911
be a record of this being a continual

4240
03:09:08,911 --> 03:09:11,911
occurrence I will okay thank you

4241
03:09:11,911 --> 03:09:14,101
item number 12 discussion for future

4242
03:09:14,101 --> 03:09:16,110
generations Genda items I'll start on

4243
03:09:16,110 --> 03:09:17,280
the left side do you have anything for

4244
03:09:17,280 --> 03:09:18,271
future Jedi

4245
03:09:18,271 --> 03:09:26,370
No

4246
03:09:26,380 --> 03:09:30,130
okay none for anyone okay item number 13

4247
03:09:30,130 --> 03:09:32,970
citizen comments I

4248
03:09:32,970 --> 03:09:35,699
got a hand up but

4249
03:09:35,699 --> 03:09:40,090
hang on a second so I want to address

4250
03:09:40,090 --> 03:09:42,489
citizens comments because apparently

4251
03:09:42,489 --> 03:09:44,250
there's there's a

4252
03:09:44,250 --> 03:09:47,890
rumor going around that people can speak

4253
03:09:47,890 --> 03:09:49,390
in the council meeting anytime they want

4254
03:09:49,390 --> 03:09:51,250
that's not what the law says it's never

4255
03:09:51,250 --> 03:09:52,800
said that and it doesn't say that now

4256
03:09:52,800 --> 03:09:56,670
what it says is that

4257
03:09:56,670 --> 03:09:59,260
citizens will be given in fact I have it

4258
03:09:59,260 --> 03:10:01,260
here but

4259
03:10:01,260 --> 03:10:03,939
city's governmental bodies may adopt

4260
03:10:03,939 --> 03:10:05,949
reasonable rules regarding public right

4261
03:10:05,949 --> 03:10:07,779
to excess address the body under this

4262
03:10:07,779 --> 03:10:11,159
section and it

4263
03:10:11,159 --> 03:10:13,989
we can limit the amount of time which we

4264
03:10:13,989 --> 03:10:16,930
do which apparently some people don't agree with but it's pretty

4265
03:10:16,930 --> 03:10:18,630
standard practice in the state of Texas

4266
03:10:18,630 --> 03:10:25,280
and

4267
03:10:25,290 --> 03:10:28,720
it says to address body regarding the

4268
03:10:28,720 --> 03:10:31,779
item at the meeting before or during the

4269
03:10:31,779 --> 03:10:34,239
body's consideration that's why we have

4270
03:10:34,239 --> 03:10:37,920
a comp uh blaa comment period counsel

4271
03:10:37,920 --> 03:10:41,380
before we start all this so and are in

4272
03:10:41,380 --> 03:10:44,649
our intent has always been that you look

4273
03:10:44,649 --> 03:10:46,180
at the agenda you know you want to talk

4274
03:10:46,180 --> 03:10:48,159
about something on the agenda you get

4275
03:10:48,159 --> 03:10:49,810
your three minutes before the meeting to

4276
03:10:49,810 --> 03:10:52,840
talk before we talk to discuss it for

4277
03:10:52,840 --> 03:10:55,840
you to discuss it but then we also for

4278
03:10:55,840 --> 03:10:57,819
those that may not know they wanted to

4279
03:10:57,819 --> 03:10:59,830
talk about something until they heard

4280
03:10:59,830 --> 03:11:01,540
the proceedings during the council

4281
03:11:01,540 --> 03:11:03,819
meeting we have this citizen comment

4282
03:11:03,819 --> 03:11:05,470
period at the end so I can assure you

4283
03:11:05,470 --> 03:11:08,290
that we not only comply with the law but

4284
03:11:08,290 --> 03:11:10,449
we exceed the requirements of the law by

4285
03:11:10,449 --> 03:11:12,550
having this second citizen comment

4286
03:11:12,550 --> 03:11:14,890
period at the end we have we have

4287
03:11:14,890 --> 03:11:17,380
consulted with our attorney who also

4288
03:11:17,380 --> 03:11:19,239
represents a lot of other cities around

4289
03:11:19,239 --> 03:11:22,270
here and we are absolutely in line with

4290
03:11:22,270 --> 03:11:28,239
the law and with other cities nobody has ever read this that people

4291
03:11:28,239 --> 03:11:30,670
can in the middle of of y'all talk and

4292
03:11:30,670 --> 03:11:32,229
can raise their hand and say I want to

4293
03:11:32,229 --> 03:11:34,810
speak on this and there was also a

4294
03:11:34,810 --> 03:11:37,119
question of why we did not bring up

4295
03:11:37,119 --> 03:11:39,909
House bill 2840 and it was merely

4296
03:11:39,909 --> 03:11:41,800
because it not applicable

4297
03:11:41,800 --> 03:11:47,110
we already comply with with section 1

4298
03:11:47,110 --> 03:11:50,440
subchapter a55 one of the government

4299
03:11:50,440 --> 03:11:52,750
code and so there was no reason to ever

4300
03:11:52,750 --> 03:11:55,180
talk about it but apparently there was

4301
03:11:55,180 --> 03:11:59,380
because it's there's been lots of lots

4302
03:11:59,380 --> 03:12:06,430
of discussion including in here about us not allowing people to speak so

4303
03:12:06,430 --> 03:12:08,950
that said this is the one you don't have

4304
03:12:08,950 --> 03:12:10,690
to sign up for you get two minutes when

4305
03:12:10,690 --> 03:12:13,990
you come up to speak name and address

4306
03:12:13,990 --> 03:12:15,370
doesn't count to you two minutes and

4307
03:12:15,370 --> 03:12:16,720
when you're done would you please go

4308
03:12:16,720 --> 03:12:18,850
over to our City Secretary to sign in

4309
03:12:18,850 --> 03:12:30,730
and come on up anyone

4310
03:12:30,740 --> 03:12:33,300
mr. barish City Council thank you for

4311
03:12:33,300 --> 03:12:35,311
allowing me to speak my name is Kirk

4312
03:12:35,311 --> 03:12:37,800
Carter I'm a gardener at resident for

4313
03:12:37,800 --> 03:12:40,141
the last 13 years and I live at two one

4314
03:12:40,141 --> 03:12:42,811
nine eleven Paseo quarto I just wanted

4315
03:12:42,811 --> 03:12:45,601
to say first thank you for addressing or

4316
03:12:45,601 --> 03:12:47,340
at least in my opinion beginning to

4317
03:12:47,340 --> 03:12:49,440
address the feral Hawk problem I would

4318
03:12:49,440 --> 03:12:52,351
like to put a face on that if you don't

4319
03:12:52,351 --> 03:12:54,300
know anybody that has had their property

4320
03:12:54,300 --> 03:12:56,160
damaged by a feral hog you're looking at

4321
03:12:56,160 --> 03:12:58,200
one and at this point time I'd just like

4322
03:12:58,200 --> 03:13:01,891
to start these sir let me let me let me

4323
03:13:01,891 --> 03:13:03,391
say you actually you got to give it to

4324
03:13:03,391 --> 03:13:05,280
our city secretary and then she'll make

4325
03:13:05,280 --> 03:13:10,240
sure that everybody gets to

4326
03:13:10,250 --> 03:13:13,530
say thanks for I think the trapping is

4327
03:13:13,530 --> 03:13:16,710
good we our board of directors at George

4328
03:13:16,710 --> 03:13:18,721
Ranch provided us an opportunity to hear

4329
03:13:18,721 --> 03:13:22,440
from a Texas wildlife expert earlier in

4330
03:13:22,440 --> 03:13:24,480
this week and there's many obviously

4331
03:13:24,480 --> 03:13:26,300
avenues for

4332
03:13:26,300 --> 03:13:28,561
fighting the feral hog problem or

4333
03:13:28,561 --> 03:13:31,050
addressing the feral hog problem I would

4334
03:13:31,050 --> 03:13:33,021
just like for you to consider that

4335
03:13:33,021 --> 03:13:35,490
you know you kind of scoffed at the

4336
03:13:35,490 --> 03:13:37,440
hunting aspect of the feral hog problem

4337
03:13:37,440 --> 03:13:38,851
in the city limits and I know there are

4338
03:13:38,851 --> 03:13:40,950
some legal issues there but it is not

4339
03:13:40,950 --> 03:13:42,870
without precedent in the state of Texas

4340
03:13:42,870 --> 03:13:45,271
for urban hunting to be allowed the city

4341
03:13:45,271 --> 03:13:47,820
of Longview has done that Longview is a

4342
03:13:47,820 --> 03:13:49,561
much larger city than the city of Garden

4343
03:13:49,561 --> 03:13:51,021
Ridge I

4344
03:13:51,021 --> 03:13:54,330
just say that's you know laws are passed

4345
03:13:54,330 --> 03:13:57,150
by men and men can change those laws or

4346
03:13:57,150 --> 03:13:59,761
amend them for the refere for the for

4347
03:13:59,761 --> 03:14:01,130
the good of the

4348
03:14:01,130 --> 03:14:05,070
subdivision I just think you know we we

4349
03:14:05,070 --> 03:14:07,800
are at a point where this is going to

4350
03:14:07,800 --> 03:14:10,200
become a larger problem if we don't be

4351
03:14:10,200 --> 03:14:13,261
proactive about it and you know we have

4352
03:14:13,261 --> 03:14:15,210
nice welcomed packets that we want to

4353
03:14:15,210 --> 03:14:17,160
give to our new residents but it will be

4354
03:14:17,160 --> 03:14:19,021
hard to find new residents to purchase

4355
03:14:19,021 --> 03:14:21,750
homes that are for sale in the in garden

4356
03:14:21,750 --> 03:14:23,311
Ridge if they drive through our

4357
03:14:23,311 --> 03:14:24,870
communities and see the kind of damage

4358
03:14:24,870 --> 03:14:28,080
that was done to my yard and my yard is

4359
03:14:28,080 --> 03:14:31,110
by no means the worst yard that was been

4360
03:14:31,110 --> 03:14:33,900
damaged in Georgia ranch and my damage

4361
03:14:33,900 --> 03:14:36,540
was 3,200 dollars worth for that just

4362
03:14:36,540 --> 03:14:39,000
the pictures that you see there so we

4363
03:14:39,000 --> 03:14:42,340
are not talking inconsequential dollars

4364
03:14:42,340 --> 03:14:44,649
thank you sir and and for the record if

4365
03:14:44,649 --> 03:14:46,990
anybody was watching the clock and it

4366
03:14:46,990 --> 03:14:48,880
went to zero and I didn't stop him the

4367
03:14:48,880 --> 03:14:51,010
reason why is because when he was given

4368
03:14:51,010 --> 03:14:52,450
his name and address for some reason we

4369
03:14:52,450 --> 03:14:55,149
started the clock so I I counted the ten

4370
03:14:55,149 --> 03:14:57,430
seconds that we took from him and put it

4371
03:14:57,430 --> 03:14:59,109
at the end so that's why in case you're

4372
03:14:59,109 --> 03:15:00,130
wondering

4373
03:15:00,130 --> 03:15:01,470
[Music]

4374
03:15:01,470 --> 03:15:11,300
anyone else on

4375
03:15:11,310 --> 03:15:15,830
the mic

4376
03:15:15,840 --> 03:15:18,520
yes ma'am great the time hasn't started

4377
03:15:18,520 --> 03:15:21,520
Traci Blackwell 97 and 45 trophy oaks I

4378
03:15:21,520 --> 03:15:23,770
wanted to address the city engineer as

4379
03:15:23,770 --> 03:15:25,450
he said that he's been working with T

4380
03:15:25,450 --> 03:15:27,399
Blackwell insurance since February I

4381
03:15:27,399 --> 03:15:29,350
didn't purchase the property until May

4382
03:15:29,350 --> 03:15:31,660
15th that was my closing date if you

4383
03:15:31,660 --> 03:15:33,609
recall I did have another lot that I was

4384
03:15:33,609 --> 03:15:35,200
looking at that I had to walk away from

4385
03:15:35,200 --> 03:15:36,520
because the City Planning and Zoning

4386
03:15:36,520 --> 03:15:38,800
I've been very patient and I've been

4387
03:15:38,800 --> 03:15:41,439
working but with everybody trying to get

4388
03:15:41,439 --> 03:15:43,479
this done and I haven't even spoke last

4389
03:15:43,479 --> 03:15:45,280
time whoever represented the city

4390
03:15:45,280 --> 03:15:46,540
engineer they said that they were

4391
03:15:46,540 --> 03:15:48,370
working with T Blackwell because they

4392
03:15:48,370 --> 03:15:51,640
had all these variance request when I

4393
03:15:51,640 --> 03:15:53,620
asked him in the hallway exactly how

4394
03:15:53,620 --> 03:15:55,930
many variants requests I had he said I

4395
03:15:55,930 --> 03:15:57,550
don't know they just had me come talk

4396
03:15:57,550 --> 03:15:59,950
and I don't know I said well you

4397
03:15:59,950 --> 03:16:01,660
misspoke because I didn't ask for a ton

4398
03:16:01,660 --> 03:16:04,500
of variance request but my

4399
03:16:04,500 --> 03:16:06,700
architect is used to be on Planning and

4400
03:16:06,700 --> 03:16:08,620
Zoning in city of Gardiner Shawn Willis

4401
03:16:08,620 --> 03:16:10,990
and he actually was on planning zoning

4402
03:16:10,990 --> 03:16:13,450
for four years I specifically picked him

4403
03:16:13,450 --> 03:16:16,240
Clyde marbot Friesen hyung to do the

4404
03:16:16,240 --> 03:16:17,770
building because they have built in

4405
03:16:17,770 --> 03:16:19,359
garden ridge they know the laws they

4406
03:16:19,359 --> 03:16:21,550
know what have you and recently and this

4407
03:16:21,550 --> 03:16:25,960
is from Shawn our civil engineer me back

4408
03:16:25,960 --> 03:16:27,430
up I have to say I'm very frustrated the

4409
03:16:27,430 --> 03:16:29,890
process and concern of our future

4410
03:16:29,890 --> 03:16:31,420
development of city of Garden Ridge this

4411
03:16:31,420 --> 03:16:33,220
process has been dragged out due to the

4412
03:16:33,220 --> 03:16:35,500
fact that this city engineer is not able

4413
03:16:35,500 --> 03:16:37,120
to perform that work and timely or

4414
03:16:37,120 --> 03:16:39,340
competent manner we have recently

4415
03:16:39,340 --> 03:16:40,810
discovered that reviewing the engineer

4416
03:16:40,810 --> 03:16:44,340
the plans is based out of Arizona

4417
03:16:44,340 --> 03:16:47,710
not new braunfels Arizona and is not

4418
03:16:47,710 --> 03:16:49,149
familiar with the local and area

4419
03:16:49,149 --> 03:16:50,920
standards for designing storm water

4420
03:16:50,920 --> 03:16:53,470
detention and septic our civil engineer

4421
03:16:53,470 --> 03:16:55,710
is very experienced and

4422
03:16:55,710 --> 03:16:57,630
is required and is very thorough to make

4423
03:16:57,630 --> 03:16:58,979
sure the system and designs are in

4424
03:16:58,979 --> 03:17:00,330
compliance with state and local

4425
03:17:00,330 --> 03:17:03,090
standards and not to be detriment to the

4426
03:17:03,090 --> 03:17:04,860
neighboring properties he and I both

4427
03:17:04,860 --> 03:17:06,750
take offense the city engineers comments

4428
03:17:06,750 --> 03:17:08,810
that we consider them to be out of line

4429
03:17:08,810 --> 03:17:12,780
the last review cost me and still is

4430
03:17:12,780 --> 03:17:14,880
costing me money I need to be out of the

4431
03:17:14,880 --> 03:17:17,160
place I'm at I need to move on I need

4432
03:17:17,160 --> 03:17:19,770
the City Engineer to work and explain

4433
03:17:19,770 --> 03:17:21,720
exactly what we need up front and not a

4434
03:17:21,720 --> 03:17:26,110
bunch of rework thank you ma'am

4435
03:17:26,120 --> 03:17:36,850
anyone else

4436
03:17:36,860 --> 03:17:38,860
yeah there you go

4437
03:17:38,860 --> 03:17:42,790
nope yeah when the red lights on it

4438
03:17:42,790 --> 03:17:46,070
are you guys is she ready you are uncle

4439
03:17:46,070 --> 03:17:49,820
rideth Julie Rieger I'm at 90 $0.15 of

4440
03:17:49,820 --> 03:17:52,040
our Court first of all I just want to

4441
03:17:52,040 --> 03:17:54,710
say thank you for what you guys do my

4442
03:17:54,710 --> 03:17:56,510
husband grew up in Garden Ridge when it

4443
03:17:56,510 --> 03:17:58,490
was a small population we've been here

4444
03:17:58,490 --> 03:18:01,220
six years now and it's a great place to

4445
03:18:01,220 --> 03:18:03,350
live we love it and we're so glad to get

4446
03:18:03,350 --> 03:18:05,300
to raise our daughter here and I know

4447
03:18:05,300 --> 03:18:07,160
the time and effort that you put in here

4448
03:18:07,160 --> 03:18:10,870
especially those who are volunteers is a

4449
03:18:10,870 --> 03:18:12,830
sacrifice and being away from your

4450
03:18:12,830 --> 03:18:16,550
family and I appreciate just everything

4451
03:18:16,550 --> 03:18:18,110
you guys do to make this a great place

4452
03:18:18,110 --> 03:18:22,070
to live I want to advocate on behalf of

4453
03:18:22,070 --> 03:18:25,490
residents of George Ranch I we have not

4454
03:18:25,490 --> 03:18:28,670
had any feral hog issues but I just

4455
03:18:28,670 --> 03:18:31,580
wanted to say we appreciate your efforts

4456
03:18:31,580 --> 03:18:33,620
thus far and would ask that you would

4457
03:18:33,620 --> 03:18:35,420
continue to look at a multi-faceted

4458
03:18:35,420 --> 03:18:39,140
approach to treating the feral hogs in a

4459
03:18:39,140 --> 03:18:42,440
proactive manner and the research and

4460
03:18:42,440 --> 03:18:45,561
data does show that there is no one

4461
03:18:45,561 --> 03:18:48,920
absolute best way and only way to treat

4462
03:18:48,920 --> 03:18:51,561
feral hogs but your effectiveness does

4463
03:18:51,561 --> 03:18:55,040
increase if you attack it from a

4464
03:18:55,040 --> 03:19:01,130
multiple venue or in various ways so if

4465
03:19:01,130 --> 03:19:02,680
you would consider

4466
03:19:02,680 --> 03:19:05,450
other ways in addition to trapping and

4467
03:19:05,450 --> 03:19:07,521
then to a comment that was made earlier

4468
03:19:07,521 --> 03:19:10,150
today about

4469
03:19:10,150 --> 03:19:13,340
there's expected growth probably with

4470
03:19:13,340 --> 03:19:15,500
the as as we can tend to have

4471
03:19:15,500 --> 03:19:17,720
development in the area feral hog

4472
03:19:17,720 --> 03:19:19,850
attacks will continue and will only

4473
03:19:19,850 --> 03:19:22,250
increase so I would ask that you guys

4474
03:19:22,250 --> 03:19:23,500
would consider

4475
03:19:23,500 --> 03:19:26,290
making a line item in the budget to

4476
03:19:26,290 --> 03:19:29,750
proactively plan on dealing with the

4477
03:19:29,750 --> 03:19:33,740
feral hog issue rather than and I'm new

4478
03:19:33,740 --> 03:19:35,420
at this so I don't I'm not sure I don't

4479
03:19:35,420 --> 03:19:37,010
know everything about the budget but I

4480
03:19:37,010 --> 03:19:39,080
don't think it's a specific line item

4481
03:19:39,080 --> 03:19:41,240
right now and I believe that the problem

4482
03:19:41,240 --> 03:19:43,700
is only going to increase and for the

4483
03:19:43,700 --> 03:19:46,010
protection of the quality of our life

4484
03:19:46,010 --> 03:19:46,760
and

4485
03:19:46,760 --> 03:19:48,649
residents of Olive Garden roads we'd ask

4486
03:19:48,649 --> 03:19:51,590
that you would look at that in the

4487
03:19:51,590 --> 03:20:09,889
future thank you ma'am anywhere else

4488
03:20:09,899 --> 03:20:14,100
ken Kenai / 88-91 chain tall road oh

4489
03:20:14,100 --> 03:20:17,770
yeah I am astounded by being reminded

4490
03:20:17,770 --> 03:20:20,829
that you all are not giving citizens an

4491
03:20:20,829 --> 03:20:23,709
opportunity to speak I not only attend

4492
03:20:23,709 --> 03:20:25,600
this meeting res religiously but also

4493
03:20:25,600 --> 03:20:28,300
ten school board meetings and the people

4494
03:20:28,300 --> 03:20:29,919
that are in the audience can only speak

4495
03:20:29,919 --> 03:20:32,529
once at the school board and that's

4496
03:20:32,529 --> 03:20:34,510
prior to the meeting and we need to

4497
03:20:34,510 --> 03:20:37,289
dress something on the gun the agenda or

4498
03:20:37,289 --> 03:20:39,970
something we find very near and dear to

4499
03:20:39,970 --> 03:20:42,819
our hearts so you are giving now every

4500
03:20:42,819 --> 03:20:45,939
citizen an opportunity to speak saying

4501
03:20:45,939 --> 03:20:48,640
you don't as totally I don't know where

4502
03:20:48,640 --> 03:20:50,399
they're where they're coming from

4503
03:20:50,399 --> 03:20:52,720
when I was in the military we said they

4504
03:20:52,720 --> 03:20:55,510
listened to a latrine lawyer there are a

4505
03:20:55,510 --> 03:20:57,010
lot of them I think they live in our

4506
03:20:57,010 --> 03:20:59,260
city they think they work for an

4507
03:20:59,260 --> 03:21:01,029
attorney or they think they know the law

4508
03:21:01,029 --> 03:21:03,729
and they don't know the law so they need

4509
03:21:03,729 --> 03:21:06,399
to get an education there before they

4510
03:21:06,399 --> 03:21:08,709
put something out in social media order

4511
03:21:08,709 --> 03:21:11,529
to get their group to start attacking

4512
03:21:11,529 --> 03:21:14,859
and questioning you they really need to

4513
03:21:14,859 --> 03:21:18,699
find out what the law really says and I

4514
03:21:18,699 --> 03:21:21,789
guess I don't have a problem with them

4515
03:21:21,789 --> 03:21:24,609
other than the fact I love to be on

4516
03:21:24,609 --> 03:21:26,409
their into their the loves walk their

4517
03:21:26,409 --> 03:21:28,680
love miss so I'm sure I'll get some

4518
03:21:28,680 --> 03:21:31,869
comments very shortly on next door about

4519
03:21:31,869 --> 03:21:36,279
my participation tonight but thank you

4520
03:21:36,279 --> 03:21:38,859
for what you do and thank you for what

4521
03:21:38,859 --> 03:21:41,050
you have to put up with from a very

4522
03:21:41,050 --> 03:21:43,810
small group I like the four refer to

4523
03:21:43,810 --> 03:21:46,779
myself I'm from the silent majority the

4524
03:21:46,779 --> 03:21:49,810
majority of people that vote in May for

4525
03:21:49,810 --> 03:21:53,470
City Council and who have elected you

4526
03:21:53,470 --> 03:21:57,520
all so you are we are your majority we

4527
03:21:57,520 --> 03:21:58,989
don't come with the meetings and speak

4528
03:21:58,989 --> 03:22:00,430
we don't come to the coffee with the

4529
03:22:00,430 --> 03:22:02,859
mayor and groups and speak we come in

4530
03:22:02,859 --> 03:22:05,680
small groups so we will speak every

4531
03:22:05,680 --> 03:22:07,329
month every May when it comes time to

4532
03:22:07,329 --> 03:22:09,159
vote for you thank you very much for

4533
03:22:09,159 --> 03:22:11,159
your time and your patience

4534
03:22:11,159 --> 03:22:15,409
thank you serving anyone else

4535
03:22:15,419 --> 03:22:18,060
Khan once

4536
03:22:18,060 --> 03:22:19,679
twice

4537
03:22:19,679 --> 03:22:22,329
okay we'll move on item number fourteen

4538
03:22:22,329 --> 03:22:24,489
reports comments Marin City Council

4539
03:22:24,489 --> 03:22:26,770
members starting over on the left side

4540
03:22:26,770 --> 03:22:28,810
and remember it's just the things that

4541
03:22:28,810 --> 03:22:37,010
are listed here please know

4542
03:22:37,020 --> 03:22:40,149
we the City Council will now then we're

4543
03:22:40,149 --> 03:22:42,549
on item number 15 City Council recess is

4544
03:22:42,549 --> 03:22:44,499
opening and reconvene an executive

4545
03:22:44,499 --> 03:22:46,869
session pursuant Texas government code

4546
03:22:46,869 --> 03:22:48,159
five five one zero seven two

4547
03:22:48,159 --> 03:22:50,409
deliberation about real property then

4548
03:22:50,409 --> 03:22:52,539
five five one zero seven one

4549
03:22:52,539 --> 03:22:56,799
consultation with an attorney then five one nine seven four personal

4550
03:22:56,799 --> 03:22:58,779
matters in section five five one show

4551
03:22:58,779 --> 03:23:00,520
seven one consultation returning if

4552
03:23:00,520 --> 03:23:04,149
necessary and then item D is pursuant

4553
03:23:04,149 --> 03:23:05,949
Texas government code five five one zero

4554
03:23:05,949 --> 03:23:07,749
seven one consultation with attorney

4555
03:23:07,749 --> 03:23:09,179
there's no those four things on there

4556
03:23:09,179 --> 03:23:14,529
we're gonna recess at 9:22 and at nine

4557
03:23:14,529 --> 03:23:18,850
thirty will convene in there and counsel

4558
03:23:18,850 --> 03:23:22,350
I'll ask you that in the consent agenda

4559
03:23:22,350 --> 03:23:25,869
you approve the resolution and the city

4560
03:23:25,869 --> 03:23:29,770
secretary needs you to sign that sign

4561
03:23:29,770 --> 03:23:32,199
over there for the resolution so on your

4562
03:23:32,199 --> 03:23:34,329
way over or on your break or whatever if

4563
03:23:34,329 --> 03:23:35,949
you would help her out and get get a

4564
03:23:35,949 --> 03:23:37,689
signature on that you'll see what you

4565
03:23:37,689 --> 03:23:38,619
just she'll show you what I'm talking

4566
03:23:38,619 --> 03:23:41,589
about okay we are we are recessed and

4567
03:23:41,589 --> 03:24:45,821
reconvene 9:30 thank you

4568
03:24:45,831 --> 03:24:47,811
everybody we got a couple of pieces of

4569
03:24:47,811 --> 03:24:51,730
business to do reconvening at 11:09

4570
03:24:51,730 --> 03:24:53,891
City Council

4571
03:24:53,891 --> 03:24:57,531
session for six November is reconvening

4572
03:24:57,531 --> 03:25:01,041
at 11:09 and item number 16 business

4573
03:25:01,041 --> 03:25:02,751
item City Council reconvened in regular

4574
03:25:02,751 --> 03:25:05,031
session upon conclusion his ex obsession

4575
03:25:05,031 --> 03:25:06,951
and may recall any item and asked

4576
03:25:06,951 --> 03:25:09,531
council do you have any any actions you

4577
03:25:09,531 --> 03:25:12,201
want to take based on our executive

4578
03:25:12,201 --> 03:25:13,690
session

4579
03:25:13,690 --> 03:25:17,860
Mike please go ahead I

4580
03:25:17,860 --> 03:25:20,900
move that we authorize the city

4581
03:25:20,900 --> 03:25:24,171
administrator to execute documents for

4582
03:25:24,171 --> 03:25:27,021
the transfer of land from one of our

4583
03:25:27,021 --> 03:25:31,211
citizens to the Paul Davis Park project

4584
03:25:31,211 --> 03:25:34,551
okay I have a motion from place one to

4585
03:25:34,551 --> 03:25:36,921
transfer some land from citizens Paul

4586
03:25:36,921 --> 03:25:39,110
Davis Park and to authorize the city

4587
03:25:39,110 --> 03:25:41,211
administrator to make that to make that

4588
03:25:41,211 --> 03:25:45,171
happen and please give that give the

4589
03:25:45,171 --> 03:25:48,171
wording to city secretary afterwards can

4590
03:25:48,171 --> 03:25:50,211
I get a second I second the motion I get

4591
03:25:50,211 --> 03:25:54,681
a second from from place five and any

4592
03:25:54,681 --> 03:25:58,311
further discussion all in favor aye

4593
03:25:58,311 --> 03:26:01,431
any opposed unanimous and it should be

4594
03:26:01,431 --> 03:26:05,301
noted that council place two left at I

4595
03:26:05,301 --> 03:26:06,761
don't know if you have it

4596
03:26:06,761 --> 03:26:08,591
left at

4597
03:26:08,591 --> 03:26:12,791
9:39 22 so it's

4598
03:26:12,791 --> 03:26:14,841
everybody except the council place -

4599
03:26:14,841 --> 03:26:17,721
okay thank you that is passed

4600
03:26:17,721 --> 03:26:19,940
unanimously for the remaining do any

4601
03:26:19,940 --> 03:26:21,621
other actions that we we need to take

4602
03:26:21,621 --> 03:26:23,271
yes I like to make motion that we

4603
03:26:23,271 --> 03:26:25,281
authorize in city engineer and City

4604
03:26:25,281 --> 03:26:29,621
Administrator do plan engineer and

4605
03:26:29,621 --> 03:26:32,690
negotiate a pressurized sewer system

4606
03:26:32,690 --> 03:26:37,131
reliant on 22:52 for commercial use okay

4607
03:26:37,131 --> 03:26:38,900
I have a motion from place three to

4608
03:26:38,900 --> 03:26:41,150
authorize the city engineer and city

4609
03:26:41,150 --> 03:26:44,211
administrator to to a plan engineer

4610
03:26:44,211 --> 03:26:46,730
negotiate the pressurized sewer system

4611
03:26:46,730 --> 03:26:49,971
on 2252 for commercial use can I get a

4612
03:26:49,971 --> 03:26:52,820
second say it I think it place three

4613
03:26:52,820 --> 03:26:54,561
with the motion placed forward the

4614
03:26:54,561 --> 03:26:56,261
second any further discussion

4615
03:26:56,261 --> 03:26:58,490
all in favor

4616
03:26:58,490 --> 03:27:02,270
any opposed again unanimous any other

4617
03:27:02,270 --> 03:27:05,210
business items from the regular from the

4618
03:27:05,210 --> 03:27:07,180
executive sessions

4619
03:27:07,180 --> 03:27:11,150
and I got all head headshakes that'd be

4620
03:27:11,150 --> 03:27:14,750
a no next is item 17 can I get a motion

4621
03:27:14,750 --> 03:27:16,820
to adjourn

4622
03:27:16,820 --> 03:27:18,260
place through the motion to adjourn can

4623
03:27:18,260 --> 03:27:19,790
I get a second second a motion to

4624
03:27:19,790 --> 03:27:21,500
adjourn I get a motion place five any

4625
03:27:21,500 --> 03:27:24,050
further discussion all in favor aye any

4626
03:27:24,050 --> 03:27:26,270
opposed we are adjourned at 11:00 12:00

4627
03:27:26,270 --> 03:27:29,350
thank you very much