1 00:00:20,080 --> 00:00:28,560 The regular meeting of the planning commission is called to order at 7:02 2 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:34,880 p.m. I do want to make a announcement today. 3 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:39,600 Tonight's the first time we're using computers 4 00:00:36,640 --> 00:00:47,120 for tallying votes and for communicating. So, please bear with us 5 00:00:43,440 --> 00:00:53,600 while we go through this process and I appreciate it. Thank you. 6 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:59,840 Okay. The pledge of allegiance will be led by Commissioner Langley. So please 7 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:05,160 stand up, put your hand across your hearts 8 00:01:01,359 --> 00:01:05,160 and face the flag. 9 00:01:23,119 --> 00:01:28,759 Okay. Can we have roll call, please? 10 00:01:30,479 --> 00:01:36,799 » Certainly. Commissioner Langley, >> present. 11 00:01:34,960 --> 00:01:39,680 » Commissioner Sherman, >> yes. 12 00:01:37,360 --> 00:01:42,079 » Vice Chair Khan, >> here. 13 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:48,040 » Chair Wright, >> present. and Commissioner Henderson is 14 00:01:44,159 --> 00:01:48,040 out with an excused absence. 15 00:01:52,079 --> 00:02:01,200 We have the minutes of the regular meeting of June 17th, 20, 2025. 16 00:01:59,119 --> 00:02:05,479 Do any commissioners have any corrections on the minutes? 17 00:02:07,759 --> 00:02:16,360 I will take that as no. Okay. Do we have a motion to approve the minutes? 18 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:27,720 Okay, we have a motion by Commissioner Langry. 19 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:46,000 Do we have a second? Commissioner 20 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:49,239 Connor, >> I second. 21 00:02:52,640 --> 00:02:58,360 » Start the uh vote, please. >> Yes, vote has started. 22 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,280 Has 23 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:18,640 everybody voted? [Music] 24 00:03:14,560 --> 00:03:22,159 » I only see three of us. >> Uh there's 25 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:25,159 we're we're good. Uh >> okay. 26 00:03:26,879 --> 00:03:32,400 » Oh, gotcha. Okay, we're we're good. >> Okay. 27 00:03:30,799 --> 00:03:39,440 » Okay. Is everyone's voted? I'm going to end the vote. 28 00:03:34,560 --> 00:03:44,159 Motion passes uh 30 with uh Chair Khan, Chair I mean Vice Chair Khan, Chair 29 00:03:42,000 --> 00:03:52,200 Righter and Commissioner Langley voting yes. Uh Commissioner Sherman abstaining 30 00:03:47,519 --> 00:03:52,200 and Daryl Henderson out. 31 00:03:52,879 --> 00:04:02,560 Okay. 4B. We have the minutes of the regular 32 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:08,760 meeting of July 15, 2025. Do any commissioners have any 33 00:04:04,640 --> 00:04:08,760 corrections on the minutes? 34 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:20,040 No. Okay, I will take that as a no. Do we have a motion to approve the minutes? 35 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:26,280 Okay, Commissioner Conhan has 36 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:34,919 » I would like to make a motion to approve the minutes of July 15, 2025. 37 00:04:34,960 --> 00:04:38,280 I second. 38 00:04:38,639 --> 00:04:51,040 » Okay. Can we please have a vote? >> Certainly. Uh, Vice Chair Khan. Oh, I'm 39 00:04:46,639 --> 00:04:55,000 sorry. I'm going back the old way uh voting man started 40 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:03,000 has 41 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:16,000 » has everyone voted. >> Yeah. Has everyone voted? 42 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:23,600 Take that as a yes and vote. Motion passes 300 with uh Chair Khan, 43 00:05:20,479 --> 00:05:28,960 Vice Chair Khan, Chair Right, Shore, and Commissioner Sherman voting yes. 44 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:34,400 That's what screwed me up. So, there's a uh Commissioner Langley 45 00:05:31,360 --> 00:05:39,000 with Commissioner Langley abstaining. For some reason, it shows it twice up 46 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,000 there. 47 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:42,600 Okay. 48 00:05:43,680 --> 00:05:51,320 Okay. Staff, please read the oral communications instructions. 49 00:05:52,240 --> 00:05:57,680 » This is a time where the public may address the planning commission on items 50 00:05:55,600 --> 00:06:02,400 that are not on the agenda, but within the planning commission's jurisdiction. 51 00:06:00,479 --> 00:06:06,400 Comments should be limited to three minutes. 52 00:06:04,080 --> 00:06:13,360 Is anyone in the public wishing to speak to the planning commission at this time? 53 00:06:10,319 --> 00:06:19,199 Okay. No public speakers under oral communication. 54 00:06:14,479 --> 00:06:23,319 » Okay. Five. We will now move on to the public hearing items. 55 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,520 6A 56 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:39,520 environmental assessment 17-24 conditional use permit 7-24. 57 00:06:36,400 --> 00:06:45,960 Applicant Matthew Farah of Westside Collection Car Storage. Location 58 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:45,960 1608-1612 59 00:06:46,639 --> 00:06:54,880 West 139th Street. Director, will you present 60 00:06:52,479 --> 00:07:00,120 the staff report, please? >> Uh, I will be presenting the staff 61 00:06:56,560 --> 00:07:00,120 report for this item. 62 00:07:00,800 --> 00:07:06,160 » Okay. And, uh, good evening, commissioners. Uh again, as you've 63 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:12,800 stated, this is environmental assessment number 1724 and conditional use permit 64 00:07:08,800 --> 00:07:16,240 number 17 or 724 for a request for a conditional use permit to allow the 65 00:07:14,479 --> 00:07:20,240 operations of private vehicle storage facilities within two existing 66 00:07:18,400 --> 00:07:24,800 industrial buildings totaling about 23,334 67 00:07:22,319 --> 00:07:32,400 ft located in the Gardina Industrial or M2 zone in accordance with Gardina 68 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:36,560 Municipal Code section 1846. 030C9. Uh and for environmental considerations, 69 00:07:34,479 --> 00:07:41,599 this project is categorically exempt from the provisions of SQUA uh pursuant 70 00:07:39,120 --> 00:07:47,919 to class one for existing facilities and is not subject to the exemptions or 71 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:52,080 exceptions in SQUA. And just to see here, this is a vicinity 72 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:57,680 map. It is going to be at, as you stated, 1608 through 1612 West 169th 73 00:07:55,039 --> 00:08:04,080 Street. and it is going to be south of West 139th Street, west of Haldale 74 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:08,560 Avenue, and east of um Southwestern Avenue. 75 00:08:06,639 --> 00:08:11,759 And as far as the zoning map goes, the surrounding areas as well as the 76 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:16,639 property is all going to be zoned as general industrial or M2. And the only 77 00:08:14,879 --> 00:08:23,080 other one is going to be the south adjacent property, which does have a 78 00:08:18,720 --> 00:08:23,080 housing overlay six on it. 79 00:08:23,520 --> 00:08:30,319 And just for show, this is the existing property. Again, these are four 80 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:34,640 industrial complex buildings. However, the applicant is only utilizing the rear 81 00:08:33,039 --> 00:08:40,519 two. Just to show, this is the existing 1608 82 00:08:37,519 --> 00:08:40,519 building. 83 00:08:40,560 --> 00:08:45,000 This is the 1612 building. 84 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:52,240 And as far as the site plan goes, again, there's two industrial buildings. Both 85 00:08:48,880 --> 00:08:58,080 parcels together uh have a total of 0.9 acres in lot size. There are 35 parking 86 00:08:54,880 --> 00:09:03,360 spaces on the uh parcels and there is a shade sale between the buildings and 87 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:09,440 once again in blue is going to be 1608 building. In red is the 1612 building as 88 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:12,760 well as a shade sale in green between both buildings. 89 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:22,720 And for the floor plan, there are going to be 19 total parked vehicles. Um, and 90 00:09:19,040 --> 00:09:28,160 these include uh double lifts in the 45 ben pack lifts as well as being stored 91 00:09:25,839 --> 00:09:33,120 as 15 motorcycles with a car wash and detailing station. And just to show, 92 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:40,560 this is the entrance to the building. This is only one uh size of a bend pack 93 00:09:36,160 --> 00:09:46,240 lift as well as the uh car wash station down on the southeast corner. 94 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:51,680 And just to give an example, these are the Ben packlets on site. And just to 95 00:09:49,680 --> 00:09:55,600 note as well, the applicant is currently operating. However, they have submitted 96 00:09:53,760 --> 00:10:00,959 this conditional use permit in an effort to comply with the Gardina Municipal 97 00:09:57,360 --> 00:10:07,279 Code. And this is just a view of one lift and it is double tier. So there's 98 00:10:03,839 --> 00:10:11,680 one car below and one car above. And this is the car wash and detail 99 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:16,200 station. And this is just another view of that. 100 00:10:16,560 --> 00:10:24,640 As far as the uh building in 1612 goes, there will be 48 total parked vehicles 101 00:10:22,320 --> 00:10:29,279 inside of the building with 24 bend pack lifts, 10 motorcycles as well as an 102 00:10:26,959 --> 00:10:35,200 office and members lounge. Just to show as well, this is one Ben pack lift. And 103 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:40,720 then the area in blue is the office and members lounge. 104 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:45,839 As far as the analyses go, the business operations include private valet vehicle 105 00:10:43,040 --> 00:10:50,240 parking, uh elevated sto storage lifts, car washing and detailing uh services, 106 00:10:48,240 --> 00:10:54,800 battery and tire changing services, and a battery battery tender for the stored 107 00:10:52,480 --> 00:10:59,680 vehicles. The hours of operation are going to be 7:00 a.m. to 7:00 p.m. all 108 00:10:56,720 --> 00:11:04,079 days of the week. And uh as far as the parking ratios go, the park uh parking 109 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:11,519 ratio of warehousing will be in effect for this uh use. Um there are with the 110 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:16,560 ratios of warehousing um a requirement of 31 parking spaces. However, the 111 00:11:14,320 --> 00:11:22,800 property is providing 35. So there is going to be four parking spaces in 112 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:27,920 surplus of the requirement. And for public noticing uh the city has 113 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:32,560 uh publicly noticed Gardina Valley News as well as the property owners and 114 00:11:29,519 --> 00:11:37,920 occupants within 300 ft on July 31st, 2025. And to date, uh, staff has not 115 00:11:35,760 --> 00:11:42,800 received any comments made to the project. 116 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:47,040 As far as staff recommen recommendation goes, uh, we recommend to conduct the 117 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:52,640 public hearing, receive testimony from the public, and adopt resol resolution 118 00:11:49,519 --> 00:11:56,640 PC 1225 and direct staff to file a notice of exemption. The applicant as 119 00:11:54,880 --> 00:12:00,360 well as staff is here for any questions the commission may have. 120 00:12:02,079 --> 00:12:08,040 » Okay. Does uh anyone here have any questions? 121 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:21,600 Well, I have one to I will wait until the person speak then I'll 122 00:12:20,240 --> 00:12:25,639 » if the applicant wants to come to the podium to speak to the commission. 123 00:12:27,600 --> 00:12:30,600 Excuse 124 00:12:38,720 --> 00:12:45,399 me. Have to open up a public. The public hearing is now open. 125 00:12:45,839 --> 00:12:53,680 Now you Now you can come up. First time. Sorry. All right. Uh, thank 126 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:59,279 you all for hearing me tonight. My name is Matt Farah. I'm the owner and founder 127 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:03,920 of Westside Collector Car Storage. Uh uh for 20 years I have been a professional 128 00:13:01,839 --> 00:13:08,000 automotive journalist. I'm an editor at Road and Track magazine. I have a large 129 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:12,959 YouTube channel and a podcast and I've been testing cars my entire life. I'm 130 00:13:10,560 --> 00:13:18,240 very passionate about cars and I collect them myself and I started this business 131 00:13:15,279 --> 00:13:23,600 as a way to turn one of my passions into a business. We opened our first facility 132 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:29,440 in 2020 in Plyio Vista and we sold it out very quickly uh within a year and 133 00:13:26,399 --> 00:13:34,720 now we're uh we're expanding to Gardino and our clients are incredibly excited 134 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:40,160 about it. Um we're offering storage as a concierge service. So as Kevin uh very 135 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:44,800 accurately described, we we keep the cars on battery tenders. We start them 136 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:48,959 up and warm them up once a month. We wash and detail them and only them. We 137 00:13:47,200 --> 00:13:53,680 do not wash and detail cars from the outside, only the cars that we store. 138 00:13:51,279 --> 00:13:58,480 Uh, and we run our water for the wash bay through an underground interceptor, 139 00:13:56,079 --> 00:14:03,519 uh, which we have serviced every year. Um, you know, we are we're surrounded by 140 00:14:01,680 --> 00:14:07,760 businesses that are not particularly clean. There's an aluminum casting 141 00:14:05,519 --> 00:14:12,639 facility to the north, there's a junkyard to the west, there's a body 142 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:16,399 shop to the east. Uh we would actually be cleaning this property up from what 143 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:22,720 it was in the past, which was an electroplating factory. Um and we're 144 00:14:20,079 --> 00:14:26,720 bringing high-end clientele to Gardina. Our customers have cars with us, but 145 00:14:25,040 --> 00:14:31,040 they live in Hermosa Beach, they live in Manhattan Beach, they live in Elsagundo, 146 00:14:29,440 --> 00:14:35,519 and they come get their cars from us, and they eat in restaurants in Gardina, 147 00:14:33,279 --> 00:14:41,279 they buy gas in gas stations, they shop in stores. Um and and they're bringing a 148 00:14:38,720 --> 00:14:45,519 high-end business to the area. Uh, I really believe in this business. Um, I 149 00:14:43,440 --> 00:14:48,800 own both properties. I bought one and then the other right next to it. That's 150 00:14:47,279 --> 00:14:52,639 how much I'm committed to it. And I intend to be here for a very long time. 151 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:56,160 And I look forward to answering any questions you people might have and and 152 00:14:54,480 --> 00:15:01,160 to working with you guys for the next several decades. Thank you. 153 00:15:03,760 --> 00:15:09,480 Is there anyone here that has any questions? 154 00:15:10,079 --> 00:15:15,720 Okay. Commissioner K canon. 155 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:24,560 » Yeah. I wonder if you have any client from Gardina. 156 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:30,959 » Uh I I'm sure we do. Uh I haven't looked at the addresses of every single one of 157 00:15:27,120 --> 00:15:34,680 our clientele. Um but uh I'm sure that we do. Yeah. 158 00:15:36,079 --> 00:15:46,320 » I have a question. Um, I saw that the cars that you have are, let's say, very 159 00:15:44,959 --> 00:15:51,440 high-end >> sometimes. Yes, 160 00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:56,079 » sometimes. And um, do any of these operate on like electric battery type 161 00:15:54,880 --> 00:16:00,399 cars? >> Because the concern that I have in case 162 00:15:59,279 --> 00:16:04,639 of a fire? >> Sure. 163 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:11,120 » Do you have anything set up to take care of that? Because through experience when 164 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:13,600 electrical cars catch fire. >> Yes. It's bad. It's bad news. 165 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:18,560 » It's bad news. >> So we, you know, typically for most 166 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:23,440 people an electric car is a daily driver type vehicle. Uh and we store collector 167 00:16:21,279 --> 00:16:28,399 vehicles, weekend vehicles, stuff that's driven once in a while. So while we 168 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:32,480 don't explicitly have a policy of not storing electric vehicles, the truth is 169 00:16:31,040 --> 00:16:37,759 it's not something that's really in demand. Uh once in a while if someone 170 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:42,480 takes out their Porsche or their fun car for the weekend, they might leave their 171 00:16:40,079 --> 00:16:46,639 daily driven electric car behind in that space. That's something we offer. A 172 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:51,279 space is a space. Uh but we don't make a habit of storing electric cars. The 173 00:16:48,720 --> 00:16:55,519 buildings are fully sprinklered. Uh and when we plug in um electric vehicles, 174 00:16:54,079 --> 00:16:59,680 you know, we keep the cars on battery tenders, uh normal 12volt battery 175 00:16:57,839 --> 00:17:05,439 tenders. And when we do plug in the electric cars, we only use the OEM 176 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:10,880 portable battery charge cable. We only plug them into a 110 outlet, not a high 177 00:17:08,559 --> 00:17:16,400 DC fast charging or anything like that. We set the charge limit of the vehicles 178 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:21,280 at 65% which is the optimum for storing them. Um, we take all the steps one 179 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:25,000 could reasonably take when parking an electric vehicle indoors. 180 00:17:25,199 --> 00:17:31,559 » Yeah. Thank you. >> Thank you. Any more questions? Anyone? 181 00:17:33,360 --> 00:17:46,080 Commissioner Khan, uh this question for the staff. Do we have any type of 182 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:51,520 business uh car storage in Gardina? >> Um currently there are no entitlements 183 00:17:48,559 --> 00:17:55,760 to have any sort of private vehicle storage facilities for a private 184 00:17:53,919 --> 00:18:01,679 collection. Um, this would be the first one that I've seen for this type of 185 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:06,400 entitlement. Um, so again, it was uh previously a warehouse or industrial 186 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:11,400 center. So this is a new type of use that's coming into the city from 187 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:11,400 entitlement standpoint. 188 00:18:12,080 --> 00:18:18,320 » Okay. Thank you. >> Thank you. 189 00:18:15,360 --> 00:18:23,559 » Okay. Is there anyone here who wishes to speak in favor of approval? 190 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:33,480 Okay. >> Commissioner Langley, please. 191 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:40,400 » Oh, can you come? >> You can speak from there, but you 192 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:47,200 probably won't get it recorded. Sorry, I could getting old. Um, 193 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:51,440 » have you considered a policy for electric vehicles um in that sense? And 194 00:18:49,840 --> 00:18:57,679 the second question is, are you going to have guards there 24/7? 195 00:18:54,960 --> 00:19:01,200 » The buildings are incred I'll answer the second part first if you don't mind. The 196 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:06,400 buildings are incredibly fortified. They're they're concrete and rebar. We 197 00:19:03,520 --> 00:19:12,720 have heavily reinforced gates. I built an 8t concrete wall around the entire 198 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:17,679 property with heavy iron gates. I don't believe that it is prudent to have those 199 00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:23,120 buildings staffed 24/7. And I have motion detector cameras all over the 200 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:27,200 place that so far back up my opinion and I think it would increase the price 201 00:19:25,280 --> 00:19:31,919 beyond what my customers are willing to pay. I would certainly consider it if I 202 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:36,480 felt it was a necessary thing but for the time I don't believe that's the 203 00:19:33,440 --> 00:19:42,799 case. Uh as for a policy of not storing EVs um my insurer is Hagerty. Uh they 204 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:46,240 insure collector vehicles specifically and businesses that deal in collector 205 00:19:44,720 --> 00:19:52,880 vehicles. um and they are very comfortable with 206 00:19:49,120 --> 00:20:03,280 where we are. Um I I have not considered a no EV policy. I am not um personally 207 00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:10,240 um that scared of it. Um I know that EV fires are very scary, but they are 208 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:16,960 actually quite rare. Um and we don't we don't have a high demand for storing EV 209 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:22,240 vehicles. Um, if my insurance company said that, Matt, the fires are trending 210 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:25,760 in a way that we don't like and we're going to need you to adopt a policy in 211 00:20:24,080 --> 00:20:30,320 order to keep your insurance of not doing it. I would certainly hear them 212 00:20:27,360 --> 00:20:36,000 out. Um, but I probably wouldn't come to that conclusion on my own based on 213 00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:40,000 currently available data. >> Thank you. Uh I will if if I may add I 214 00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:47,200 will say that all we have our sprinklers are water. Um and our fire extinguishers 215 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:52,080 are all CO2 which is better were you for any kind of car engine fire than a than 216 00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:57,679 a water extinguisher or a foam one. So we're and and we have um Cintas engaged. 217 00:20:55,440 --> 00:21:01,520 I'm sure you guys know them. Uh to professionally manage our fire 218 00:20:59,919 --> 00:21:05,600 extinguisher service, our sprinkler service, our regulation for testing and 219 00:21:03,600 --> 00:21:11,679 on and on. So, we're doing everything we can within reason. Um, but until a law 220 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:16,480 or my insurance says no more EVs, I'm inclined to not make a policy for that. 221 00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:23,559 » Very good. Thank you. >> Thank you. 222 00:21:19,360 --> 00:21:23,559 » Okay. Is there anyone else? 223 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:34,000 » Okay. I guess um I can ask the question then. Is there anyone else who wishes to 224 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:36,320 speak in favor of approval? >> Sir, 225 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:40,080 » yes. >> Can I read into the record that they 226 00:21:38,080 --> 00:21:46,640 were no public comments received for item 6A? However, if any member of the 227 00:21:43,360 --> 00:21:49,880 public wish to speak on item 6A, please step forward. 228 00:21:50,880 --> 00:21:56,720 No public speakers. >> Okay. Thank you. 229 00:21:54,320 --> 00:22:02,559 » All right. I am now closing the public hearing. Thank you. Thank you all. 230 00:21:59,360 --> 00:22:09,240 » Uh would any of the commissioners like to speak before we 231 00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:09,240 make a motion? 232 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:15,159 No. Okay. Is there a motion? 233 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:27,520 Okay. Commissioner Langley, we have a motion. I have a motion to 234 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:31,280 adopt resolution number PC12-25 subject to the conditions of approval 235 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:34,280 and direct staff to file a notice of exception. 236 00:22:34,799 --> 00:22:38,200 I second. 237 00:22:38,400 --> 00:22:48,039 Okay. Now, can we have a uh vote, please? 238 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:48,039 » Yes, the vote has started. 239 00:22:58,799 --> 00:23:01,799 Has 240 00:23:09,360 --> 00:23:19,679 everyone voted? >> Yes. 241 00:23:15,919 --> 00:23:22,960 Motion passes 40. Uh with Chair, Vice Chair Khan, Chair Right Shore, 242 00:23:21,679 --> 00:23:28,080 Commissioner Langley, and Commissioner Sherman voting yes. 243 00:23:25,919 --> 00:23:32,159 I do like to remind everyone that the decision will be final unless a written 244 00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:36,960 request for an appeal is filed with the appropriate fee uh to the city clerk 245 00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:41,679 within 10 calendar days uh from the date of adoption or city council calls this 246 00:23:39,120 --> 00:23:44,679 matter for review within the same 10day period. 247 00:23:45,919 --> 00:23:50,360 Okay. Okay. 248 00:23:50,559 --> 00:23:57,600 » Thank you. Okay. The next item is Kevin. 249 00:23:56,000 --> 00:24:04,280 » Yes, we'll let them clear the room before we go to the next item. 250 00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:04,280 Okay. 251 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:22,480 All right. The next item is 6B environmental assessment 7-25 252 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:29,679 conditional use permit 2-25. Applicant Vicky's Bubbly Cafe location 253 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:35,679 is 14782 Crrenshaw Boulevard 254 00:24:32,240 --> 00:24:41,200 director who will present the staff report please. Tonight I will be 255 00:24:37,679 --> 00:24:46,080 presenting the staff report. And so today I will be presenting a agenda 256 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:53,120 number 6B conditional use permit number 2-25 257 00:24:49,360 --> 00:24:58,159 environmental assessment number 7-25 for a request for a conditional use 258 00:24:55,039 --> 00:25:04,000 permit for section 18.32.030 030 section B of the Gardina Municipal 259 00:25:01,360 --> 00:25:08,480 Code to allow the on-site sale and consumption of beer and wine within a 260 00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:11,960 new restaurant located in the general commercial C3. 261 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:19,520 The project is categorically exempt from the provisions of the California 262 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:25,800 Environmental Quality Act SQUA pursuant to guidelines section 15301 263 00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:29,279 existing facilities and 15300.2 [Music] 264 00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:32,919 not subject to the exemptions of the exemptions of SQUA. 265 00:25:32,960 --> 00:25:44,000 The project site is located at 14782 Cshaw Boulevard, east of Cshaw and 266 00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:47,000 between Marine Avenue and West 147th Street. 267 00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:59,120 The property site is zone C3, general commercial. And to the east of the 268 00:25:55,919 --> 00:26:06,640 project site, we have single family residential zone R1. And to the north 269 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:10,120 and south, we have um commercial C3. As shown in the map, 270 00:26:12,559 --> 00:26:20,080 as shown before you, we have the site plan that the applicant submitted. And 271 00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:26,320 the new restaurant will be in the existing commercial strip um known as 272 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:30,159 the Centrol Plaza. And the applicant will not include any type of exterior 273 00:26:28,559 --> 00:26:35,559 improvements that will alter the existing building footprint nor exterior 274 00:26:32,559 --> 00:26:35,559 facade. 275 00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:45,360 The Crunch B uh Crunch Plaza includes various commercial retails and 276 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:48,799 businesses. The Crunch Plaza has one parking lot surrounding the shopping 277 00:26:47,279 --> 00:26:54,159 plaza that shares between the businesses. The parking lot is cited on 278 00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:57,159 the south, east, and north of the building. 279 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:06,480 The applicant provided a floor plan and the project involves a modification to 280 00:27:04,480 --> 00:27:13,520 the existing floor plan to accommodate the new restaurants. Uh there will be a 281 00:27:09,279 --> 00:27:19,120 total of 14 seats as um that will be accessible to the customer 282 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:23,720 and we can see the entrance and then the table on to the left side 283 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:34,240 for the analysis. So for restaurant use, it is a permitted use in the general 284 00:27:31,120 --> 00:27:39,760 commercial C3 zone. For a conditional use permit is required for the sales of 285 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:45,440 alcohol beverage for on and off premises consumption. The applicant is required 286 00:27:42,559 --> 00:27:52,799 to apply for an alcohol beverage license type 42 for the on-site consumption in a 287 00:27:49,120 --> 00:27:59,240 public premises. Vickiy's Bubbly Cafe hours of operations will be from 10:00 288 00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,240 a.m. to 11 p.m. 289 00:28:02,559 --> 00:28:14,520 The project site is between um the census track 6035 290 00:28:09,120 --> 00:28:14,520 and there's currently six businesses 291 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:24,159 that have an alcohol license for on-site or off-site sell consumptions. And these 292 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:31,000 businesses include two type 41 license, two type 47 license, and two type 21 293 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,000 license. 294 00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:40,000 The census track is within the definition of an undue concentration 295 00:28:37,919 --> 00:28:43,600 area. Therefore, the applicant must seek a determination for a public um 296 00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:50,320 convenience. Also, the Vicki Bubbly Cafe will be 297 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:54,559 applying for a type two type 42 ABC license that would adversely affect the 298 00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:59,440 surrounding land uses and growth and development of the area. Also, Vickiy's 299 00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:04,559 Bubbly Cafe will bring a new business type within the city that will help 300 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:07,559 reabilize the area that is full of vacancies. 301 00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:15,279 The public hearing notices were duly advertised in the Gardina Valley News 302 00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:21,279 and mailed to the owners and occupants within 300 ft of the project site of on 303 00:29:18,159 --> 00:29:25,720 July 31st, 2025. No public comments regarding the project have been 304 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,720 received. 305 00:29:27,919 --> 00:29:35,600 Staff recommendation is to conduct the public hearing, receive testimony from 306 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:38,600 the public, and adopt resolution number PC11-25 307 00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:45,000 and to direct staff to file a notice of exemption. 308 00:29:46,559 --> 00:29:52,440 Staff is available for any questions as well as the applicant. 309 00:29:54,240 --> 00:30:00,640 Chair, if I may speak. >> Yes. 310 00:29:57,360 --> 00:30:04,399 » Um, I just wanted to clarify that the public convenience and necessity is 311 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:09,279 something that the applicants would have to justify to ABC. It's not a finding 312 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:12,559 that the city would have to make for restaurants. 313 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:16,399 » I just wanted to make that clarification for the record. 314 00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:22,200 » Thank you. Okay. Do any commissioners have any 315 00:30:19,200 --> 00:30:22,200 questions? 316 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:33,320 Okay. Is there anyone who wishes to speak in favor of the 317 00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,320 approval? 318 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:48,799 Is the applicant present? Please step forward. 319 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:52,960 Okay. We are opening up. We have a public hearing at this point in time. 320 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:03,640 Good evening. >> My name is Dr. Prince Ed Arinson. 321 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:11,600 I am the one applying for the CPU. 322 00:31:08,799 --> 00:31:16,880 We proposing to bring a kind of little niche 323 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:20,960 ethnic restaurant Nigerian 324 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:26,159 to be very specific. My wife has been in business for about 325 00:31:24,159 --> 00:31:31,600 15 years, but mostly she was doing catering. 326 00:31:28,559 --> 00:31:34,600 Catering to events, weddings, anniversaries. 327 00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:44,240 And we decide to make a little place so that most uh 328 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:48,799 people might have a nice place in evenings 329 00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:54,559 when they get off work. So that's why we we decided to get into 330 00:31:52,240 --> 00:32:06,320 this business. We didn't know that it entails so much. But uh we are ready to 331 00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:11,360 make it a nice place, a quiet place. Um we don't want crowds. 332 00:32:08,880 --> 00:32:15,919 It's all inside. That's why we only have about 14 16 333 00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:21,840 seats. uh a lot more people when we do the food 334 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:28,399 they take out they do the catering which will go to 335 00:32:24,720 --> 00:32:33,919 the events so it's only very few people mostly 336 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:39,440 I would say weekends that people come in and it's for mature group it's not for 337 00:32:37,679 --> 00:32:49,120 youngsters it's a mostly family oriented um set of 338 00:32:44,799 --> 00:32:55,840 People who come eat sometime they drink sometime they won't drink because 339 00:32:52,799 --> 00:33:03,360 Nigerians like to drink at home but we have to set up the back just to 340 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:07,600 give just to give it a little face of class 341 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:12,720 and that's what we're trying to do and we hope to bring a lot of business to 342 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:19,840 the city of Gina and particular in the place that is almost like jumped up 343 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:24,240 because some other business around that they have a lot of traffic they're not 344 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:30,000 so pleasant but we hope to bring a new color into 345 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:37,039 the equation. Thank you. 346 00:33:31,919 --> 00:33:42,679 » You're welcome. Um any now is there anyone who wishes to speak in favor 347 00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:52,519 of approval? Okay. Is there anyone who wishes to speak in opposition 348 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:52,519 of approval? 349 00:33:53,360 --> 00:34:02,000 Okay. I am now closing 350 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:08,480 » public excuse me. Yes. Um, just wanted to note that we have no public comments 351 00:34:05,039 --> 00:34:13,040 for item 6B. However, if any member of the public 352 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:16,280 » wishes to speak to on item 6B, please step forward. 353 00:34:16,320 --> 00:34:25,919 » No public comments at this time. >> Okay. Uh, no questions here from the 354 00:34:23,679 --> 00:34:31,760 Okay. I am now closing the public hearing and 355 00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:35,879 thank you very much. Okay. Is there a motion? 356 00:34:37,040 --> 00:34:40,679 Commissioner Kahan? 357 00:34:41,119 --> 00:34:51,919 » Yes. I would like to make a motion to adopt resolution number PC 11-25 358 00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:57,359 subject to the conditions of approval and the rest staff to file a notice of 359 00:34:54,480 --> 00:35:03,079 exemption. Okay. 360 00:34:59,440 --> 00:35:03,079 Is there a second? 361 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,960 I second. 362 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:16,359 May we have a vote, please? The vote has started. 363 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:29,920 Has everyone voted? >> Yes. 364 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:32,800 » Motion passes. 40. Uh, Vice Chair Khan, Chair Right, Shore, Commissioner 365 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,800 Langley, and Commissioner Sherman voting yes. 366 00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:45,359 » Okay, thank you. >> I'm sorry. Um, I almost forgot. I just 367 00:35:43,119 --> 00:35:49,440 want to make clarification that uh this decision will be final unless a written 368 00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:53,680 request for an appeal is filed with the appropriate fee uh to the city clerk 369 00:35:51,599 --> 00:35:57,920 within 10 10 calendar days from the date of adoption or if the city council calls 370 00:35:56,160 --> 00:36:04,760 this matter for review within the same 10day period. 371 00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:04,760 » Okay. Thank you. Okay. 372 00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:17,760 » All right. And the next item >> agenda item, 373 00:36:13,680 --> 00:36:27,920 » the next agenda item is 6 C uh environmental assessment 2-25, 374 00:36:23,119 --> 00:36:38,960 site plan review 1-25, tentative parcel map 1-25. 375 00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:48,040 The applicant is Mason Joe Jaji and the location is 15903 376 00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:48,040 Brighton Avenue 377 00:36:48,079 --> 00:36:55,440 director who will present the staff report. 378 00:36:52,960 --> 00:37:01,599 I will be presenting a presentation on agenda item number 6C, environmental 379 00:36:58,000 --> 00:37:06,640 assessment number 2-25, site plan review number 1-25 380 00:37:03,599 --> 00:37:12,160 and tenative parcel map 1-25 for a request for approval of a 381 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:19,200 environmental assessment site plan number 1-25 and tenative parcel map 382 00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:23,680 1-25, tenative parcel map number 84583 to allow for the construction of a 383 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:31,119 multifamily residential condominium development consisting of three 384 00:37:25,839 --> 00:37:39,119 threestory town home units with 1,684 ft living area per unit and an exclusive 385 00:37:35,119 --> 00:37:44,640 of a 550 ft garage and a 100 square ft deck on a 7,45 386 00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:50,560 square ft lot in a medium density multifamily residential in the R3 zone 387 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:56,000 in accordance with section 18.44.010 010 388 00:37:52,079 --> 00:38:01,760 section A ch and chapter 17.08 of the Gardina Municipal Code 389 00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:05,760 for the environmental considerations. The proposed project is being considered 390 00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:11,400 for a categorical exemption for the provisions of the California 391 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:11,400 Environmental Quality Act 392 00:38:12,000 --> 00:38:19,839 pursuant to guideline section 15303 class 3 for new construction or 393 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:24,720 conversions of small structures and section 153000.2 394 00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:28,680 not subject to the exceptions to the exemptions in SQUA. 395 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:37,599 The project site is located at 15903 Brighton Avenue 396 00:38:35,440 --> 00:38:44,040 on the west side of Brighton Avenue and north of West 1660th Street. 397 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:54,240 The project site is zone R3 and is adjacent to the R3 properties to the 398 00:38:51,680 --> 00:39:00,000 north, west, and south in an official zone to the east of the property. 399 00:39:01,599 --> 00:39:10,400 The applicant submitted a site plan as seen on the screen. To the left, it 400 00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:15,839 displays a single family residence which the project entails a demolition. On the 401 00:39:13,760 --> 00:39:24,079 right side of your screen, the proposed site 402 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:28,560 will propose three unit town homes and a twocar garage. 403 00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:32,640 In addition, the proposed residential use is consistent with the number of 404 00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:36,800 parking spaces required by chapter 18.40. 405 00:39:34,160 --> 00:39:41,720 Each unit will have a twocar garage and then there will be two open guest 406 00:39:38,720 --> 00:39:41,720 parking. 407 00:39:43,680 --> 00:39:50,640 The applicant provided a rendering of the town homes and as shown in the 408 00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:56,000 rendering, the town homes utilize a modern contemporary design with each 409 00:39:53,520 --> 00:39:59,480 unit showcasing a distinct proposed stuckle color. 410 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:09,320 And here is a image of the existing building on how it looks. It's single 411 00:40:05,040 --> 00:40:09,320 family as seen on the screen. 412 00:40:12,720 --> 00:40:21,119 In accordance with the subdivision map act and chapter 17.08 of the Gardina 413 00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:26,320 municipal code and tenative parcel map, it is required for the subdivision of 414 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:31,359 four or fewer lots for or parcels. The tenative parcel map allows a total of 415 00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:36,920 three multifamily residential units each with its own parcel created with 416 00:40:33,359 --> 00:40:36,920 airspace rights. 417 00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:45,280 And here is the applicant's proposal for the tenative parcel map that was 418 00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:48,440 submitted in the application as seen on the screen. 419 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:58,560 The public hearing was notice were duly advertised in the Gardina Gardina Valley 420 00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:04,720 News and mailed to the owners and occupants within 300 ft of the project 421 00:41:00,800 --> 00:41:09,720 site on July 31st, 2025. No public comments regarding the project have been 422 00:41:06,720 --> 00:41:09,720 received. 423 00:41:10,400 --> 00:41:17,200 Staff recommends to conduct the public hearing, receive testimony from the 424 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:21,200 public, and adopt resolution number PC10-25 425 00:41:19,359 --> 00:41:26,160 approving environmental assessment number 2-25, 426 00:41:23,119 --> 00:41:31,920 site plan review number 1-25 and tenative parcel map 1-25 subject to the 427 00:41:29,839 --> 00:41:36,800 attached conditions of the approval and direct staff to file a notice of 428 00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:42,280 exemptions. staff is available for any questions as well as the applicant 429 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:42,280 tonight. 430 00:41:47,119 --> 00:41:54,040 Do anyone any commissioner here has anything a question? 431 00:41:54,480 --> 00:42:05,760 » Well, I have one. >> Yes. Um, 432 00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:10,560 these units are for sale to individual owners. That I'm assuming right now, not 433 00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:15,800 for rentals. >> Correct. It's only for sale. 434 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,800 » Okay. 435 00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:26,480 Anyone else? Okay. We'll now open the meeting for a 436 00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:29,040 public hearing. Is the applicant present? 437 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:32,599 » He is present tonight. >> Please step forward. 438 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:46,800 » Evening. My name is Mason Zoaji and my company name is Silvergate LLC. Uh I had 439 00:42:43,359 --> 00:42:54,800 this company since 2014, but I worked before too. I work uh as a a single 440 00:42:51,520 --> 00:43:00,720 family home in city of uh South Rodanda Beach, Hermosa Beach and projects like 441 00:42:57,839 --> 00:43:05,240 this I've done in city of Londell, Lumita and this Gardina. 442 00:43:05,359 --> 00:43:11,599 Thank you. >> Okay. You're welcome. 443 00:43:09,359 --> 00:43:17,480 All right. Now, is there anyone who wishes to speak in favor of approval? 444 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:29,000 Is there anyone who wishes to speak in opposition to approval? 445 00:43:35,760 --> 00:43:45,040 Commissioner Connor, I have a I have a question. Uh 446 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:51,280 is it going to be only one entrance or are you going to have two entrance? 447 00:43:49,119 --> 00:43:54,880 » Uh there is going to be only one entrance which is from the driveway all 448 00:43:53,440 --> 00:43:58,640 the way. >> Do you think the driveway is bigger 449 00:43:56,880 --> 00:44:03,079 enough for >> it's wide enough? Yes. 450 00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,319 » Any more questions? 451 00:44:11,599 --> 00:44:14,599 Okay, 452 00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:27,400 somebody. Yes. Uh, can you step forward? >> Yeah. Let Yeah, let him speak. 453 00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:31,240 » Okay. 454 00:44:35,040 --> 00:44:46,400 Uh you will have three minutes to speak. >> Commissioner, chairman, commission 455 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:52,319 member Mason, nice to meet you. Um allow me to say something about uh my new 456 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:58,880 neighbor Jason. I think you you do a wonderful job to make the new 457 00:44:54,400 --> 00:45:08,800 construction. The only thing I have uh minor uh um reminding because you put a 458 00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:14,800 fence temporary fence currently uh in front of your house in your house and I 459 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:20,720 suppose it is temporary only during the construction. So when the project is 460 00:45:17,680 --> 00:45:25,200 finished, when the project Yes. >> When the project is finished, I suppose 461 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:31,200 the fence the green temporary fence will be 462 00:45:27,839 --> 00:45:37,839 removed and but currently I feel because I use my view in inspection maybe I'm 463 00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:44,880 not 100% correct. The boundary line seem to be crossed a little bit uh on my 464 00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:51,680 side. Well, I'm the neighbor to Jason. my my good neighbors say I sorry to to 465 00:45:48,240 --> 00:45:58,560 this sorry I'm not to offend you but I just so the current uh temporary fence 466 00:45:55,040 --> 00:46:03,839 is currently slightly cross the boundary maybe there's maybe there's some 467 00:46:01,040 --> 00:46:08,480 limitation of the fence current fence so the the fence is not able to sit 468 00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:14,960 precisely on the boundary line I'm not sure exactly the correct line of the 469 00:46:11,119 --> 00:46:21,440 boundary so I'm I'm I wish if if you know the correct line. Would you please 470 00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:27,359 help me to but there's nothing really uh and I just feel this only temporary uh 471 00:46:24,240 --> 00:46:34,960 for the as my new neighbor. I really wish the projects finish uh successfully 472 00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:40,240 but only I raise my concern if you allow me my humble opinion. Yes, that's that's 473 00:46:37,839 --> 00:46:46,160 that's a good point that you brought up. And do you wish to address that? Then 474 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:49,560 come up and address that. 475 00:46:50,400 --> 00:47:01,440 » Uh yes. Uh those temporary uh fences are just like I said temporary for the 476 00:46:58,079 --> 00:47:07,040 safetiness of the property, but we have so rare that they already done the job. 477 00:47:04,079 --> 00:47:12,880 So we have the monuments where they are located. So if this fence like he said 478 00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:18,240 maybe a little bit this way or left to right this is only temporary and is 479 00:47:15,520 --> 00:47:25,920 nothing official. >> Okay. Uh do we have any method 480 00:47:22,079 --> 00:47:36,160 once construction start to make sure that everything is in what the surveyor 481 00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:42,240 » has done to so that he feels safe once the buildings go up because once things 482 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:48,480 go up and if it's a little bit and if it's a little bit on his property 483 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:55,920 » that will be a much harder process. is to have it undone. So, is there anything 484 00:47:51,280 --> 00:48:03,920 that can be done to make the neighbor feel at ease as the project goes up? 485 00:47:59,839 --> 00:48:09,440 » So, he has um stated on his plans he would be um proposing vinyl fencing 486 00:48:06,960 --> 00:48:14,720 around the perimeter of his property. Correct. So our recommendation is hiring 487 00:48:12,720 --> 00:48:18,560 a land surveyor for them to have something in document and the applicant 488 00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:21,680 has done that already. Correct. >> Sure. Of course. 489 00:48:19,520 --> 00:48:26,640 » So he has to comply with the land surveyor reports where the property 490 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:30,240 lines begin and so they have to comply with that and as well with the 491 00:48:28,079 --> 00:48:34,559 regulations for fencing and which is also applicable in the plants that he 492 00:48:32,800 --> 00:48:41,119 submitted and we're approving as well tonight. 493 00:48:36,400 --> 00:48:41,119 » Okay. Can you come back up please? 494 00:48:41,270 --> 00:48:51,359 [Music] Does that what she just said does does 495 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:58,480 that make you feel more comfortable as to when the project goes up that they 496 00:48:54,720 --> 00:49:04,960 have it has been survey surveyed and that the city is aware of what you have 497 00:49:01,920 --> 00:49:13,359 just stated tonight and that everything will be done within what the surveyor 498 00:49:08,160 --> 00:49:20,880 has put in which by the city is not encroaching on your property. 499 00:49:15,920 --> 00:49:25,119 » Yes, I feel I feel uh very comfortable about uh this survey. I really 500 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:31,760 appreciate. So you would you will be on 501 00:49:29,359 --> 00:49:36,400 the beginning of the project or is already 502 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:41,200 already done and on the survey? 503 00:49:37,839 --> 00:49:45,119 » Well the well the fence from from what I would understand it's only there to keep 504 00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:49,040 vagrants >> okay 505 00:49:45,599 --> 00:49:54,559 » from getting onto the property because before you start a project you have to 506 00:49:51,839 --> 00:50:01,119 put a fence around it. Yes. because you don't want people tagging the home, uh, 507 00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:06,480 vacant people coming in because then that's another problem. If somebody 508 00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:12,400 comes in on the property, he has to go to court maybe sometimes to get rid of 509 00:50:09,599 --> 00:50:14,319 of a vagrant. And so that's why the fence is up. 510 00:50:13,359 --> 00:50:22,480 » Okay? But once the fence comes down, 511 00:50:17,520 --> 00:50:28,640 then it will be within the surveyors of the agreement with the city. 512 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:33,280 But if you see something that's different, 513 00:50:30,400 --> 00:50:39,520 I do think you do have a remedy to come to the city and say they're not building 514 00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:45,920 within what the surveyor submitted to the city. 515 00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:50,480 So you do have that right and that option. 516 00:50:47,839 --> 00:50:55,040 But uh the way the city has taken care of this from what I understand is that 517 00:50:53,119 --> 00:51:00,480 they know the boundaries of the property. So everything is going to be 518 00:50:58,319 --> 00:51:06,559 done that way. But right now with the fence is to keep vagrants out. 519 00:51:03,359 --> 00:51:09,280 » So it's really to your benefit as well. >> Yes sir. 520 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:13,520 » Because you don't want neighbors there that don't belong there at this point in 521 00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:19,280 time. Yes. So the the current green fence is is on 522 00:51:16,720 --> 00:51:24,480 the boundary. Am I am I hearing? >> No, it's No, it's not the boundary 523 00:51:22,240 --> 00:51:30,160 that's going to be permanent. No, it's just there what he's explaining. It's 524 00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:36,960 only there now to protect the property to make sure that that homeless people 525 00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:39,680 don't go into the property and set up house. 526 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:43,680 » Yes, sir. because that would be a problem for you 527 00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:49,680 » and as well as him. He will have to go to court to try and get them out before 528 00:51:47,280 --> 00:51:54,880 he starts. >> So, yes, go ahead, Chris G. 529 00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:59,119 » Uh, if you feel that the green fence is on your property now, um, I I'll go 530 00:51:57,440 --> 00:52:03,839 ahead and send a code offer code enforcement officer out there to to 531 00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:07,119 check it out. Um, but if it even if it's a construct temporary construction 532 00:52:05,359 --> 00:52:11,119 fence, we need to ensure it's on your property and not another neighbor. So, 533 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:14,559 if it's off a few inches, uh, we'll let you know. But did you say there were 534 00:52:12,319 --> 00:52:21,480 markers already done in the sidewalk? The little metal brass. 535 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:21,480 » Yeah. 536 00:52:24,640 --> 00:52:31,280 Yeah. If you had it surveyed and there weren't, then the surveyor would punch 537 00:52:29,119 --> 00:52:36,640 them in. if they were already there, he would use those as as as markers. So, 538 00:52:34,240 --> 00:52:42,240 but um what I'll do is I'll send a code officer out there tomorrow morning 539 00:52:39,119 --> 00:52:46,559 » and uh see ensure that the fence is on uh your neighbor's property and if it's 540 00:52:44,559 --> 00:52:49,599 uh do you have an issue? We'll just let you know if you need to move it left or 541 00:52:48,240 --> 00:52:53,280 right any >> Okay. Do you know which fence you're 542 00:52:51,359 --> 00:53:01,520 talking about? Is it all of the fences or what are you to the north or south of 543 00:52:58,079 --> 00:53:06,720 » I'm to the south of my neighbor. >> Okay. 544 00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:11,920 » And um I think probably only a few maybe I'm wrong because I use my eye. 545 00:53:08,960 --> 00:53:15,040 » I'm not sure it's correct. I just feel that way but maybe 546 00:53:13,040 --> 00:53:19,040 » that's fine. Okay. Uh if you could leave your name and number and uh we'll go 547 00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:21,280 ahead and contact you in the morning and >> Yes. Okay. 548 00:53:20,079 --> 00:53:28,960 » All right. Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you very much. Thank you. 549 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:35,520 » Okay. Commissioner Cohan has a question. 550 00:53:32,079 --> 00:53:39,200 » My question my question is uh when are you? 551 00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:41,599 » Yes. Yes. Please come. I mean >> yes. 552 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:45,839 » When are you planning to start the construction and when are you planning 553 00:53:44,000 --> 00:53:51,520 to complete it? >> As soon as the city allows me. I would 554 00:53:49,119 --> 00:53:56,920 have done it yesterday but whenever you know the city gives us a permits we 555 00:53:53,599 --> 00:53:56,920 start then. 556 00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:05,640 » Uh does anyone else have a question? 557 00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:15,599 Anyone out here opposing or approving? 558 00:54:12,720 --> 00:54:21,640 Yes. Just wanted to note for the record that no additional comments were 559 00:54:17,280 --> 00:54:21,640 received for item 6C. 560 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:28,160 » Okay. I am now closing the public hearing. You may have a seat. Thank you. 561 00:54:26,960 --> 00:54:34,640 » Thank you. >> U would in once again would any other 562 00:54:31,599 --> 00:54:40,119 commissioners like to speak? >> No. Okay. Is there a motion? 563 00:54:51,839 --> 00:54:57,559 Okay. Commissioner Conan, please. 564 00:54:59,280 --> 00:55:10,079 I would like to make a motion to adopt resolution number PC 10-25 565 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:18,079 approving site plan review number 1-25 566 00:55:12,319 --> 00:55:23,839 and 30 pass map number one-25 subject to the attached condition of 567 00:55:20,160 --> 00:55:27,640 approval and directing staff to file a notice of exemption. 568 00:55:27,839 --> 00:55:33,240 Commissioner Langley, >> I second. 569 00:55:34,800 --> 00:55:42,280 » May we start the vote, please? >> The vote has started. 570 00:55:45,599 --> 00:55:51,799 » Okay. >> Has everyone voted? 571 00:55:48,799 --> 00:55:51,799 » Yes. 572 00:55:52,880 --> 00:56:00,480 » Motion passes 3-1. uh with Vice Chair Khan, Chair Wright Shore, and 573 00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:06,799 Commissioner Langley voting yes and Commissioner Sherman voting no. 574 00:56:04,559 --> 00:56:10,319 Again, I'd like to remind uh that this decision will be final unless a written 575 00:56:08,720 --> 00:56:14,640 request for an appeal is filed with the appropriate fee to the city clerk within 576 00:56:12,559 --> 00:56:18,240 10 calendar days 10 calendar days from the date of adoption or if the city 577 00:56:16,720 --> 00:56:22,599 council calls this matter for review within the same 10day period. 578 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:28,920 Okay, thank you. 579 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:40,280 Uh, Stephen Knowing, Commissioner Langley, did you 580 00:56:35,280 --> 00:56:40,280 I knew I was going to say that? 581 00:56:51,839 --> 00:56:59,119 Oh, you made it. You made the second. 582 00:56:56,160 --> 00:57:06,680 Oh, gotcha. Okay, Commissioner Lang, you made a second. 583 00:57:01,599 --> 00:57:06,680 All right, now we're going to um 584 00:57:07,520 --> 00:57:13,240 other items. Item number seven. 585 00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:32,799 » No. Item seven. >> Okay. Now we're going to eight. 586 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:36,880 Community development director's report. May we have the director's report, 587 00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:41,599 please? >> Certainly. Uh, 588 00:57:39,839 --> 00:57:46,559 is there a slide or is it just on my text? 589 00:57:43,119 --> 00:57:52,160 Oh. Oh, I don't have. Um, so coming up soon on Sunday, August 24, starting at 590 00:57:49,200 --> 00:57:58,720 9:00 a.m. at Rally Park is the big annual jazz festival. I'm sure you're 591 00:57:54,319 --> 00:58:05,920 all familiar with that. Um, and then after that, we have the city's 95th 592 00:58:03,119 --> 00:58:12,400 anniversary celebration. Uh, it'll be out on the front of City Hall lawn on 593 00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:16,319 Saturday, September 13th and it's scheduled to go on between the hours of 594 00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:22,079 6:00 and 10 p.m. because there's going to be a large drone show. So, instead of 595 00:58:19,839 --> 00:58:25,920 fireworks, it's a drone show. And if you haven't seen one, they're pretty pretty 596 00:58:24,319 --> 00:58:31,839 nice. And then lastly, we will have uh the 597 00:58:29,119 --> 00:58:36,880 famous Next slide. Uh food, wine, and brew uh which is Saturday, September 598 00:58:34,079 --> 00:58:41,680 27th. That's also out in front of city hall, a combination of lawn and some 599 00:58:38,799 --> 00:58:46,799 parking space areas uh from 12:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. So, I know you're all 600 00:58:44,079 --> 00:58:50,240 familiar with those events. Um but, uh just as a reminder, they're coming up 601 00:58:48,319 --> 00:58:55,280 and that means we're coming to the end of summer, too. That's all I have. And 602 00:58:53,200 --> 00:58:59,280 just note as well for the commissioners, if you wish to attend the jazz festival 603 00:58:57,200 --> 00:59:03,440 or food, wine and brew, you may have two tickets. Just please let staff know that 604 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:09,280 you are interested as well as what email to send for those e tickets. 605 00:59:07,599 --> 00:59:10,640 » Okay. Um you 606 00:59:10,319 --> 00:59:15,280 » Yes. >> Oh, you mean you have two tickets for 607 00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:20,799 each event or one ticket? >> Two tickets for each event. Um I know 608 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:27,280 that you do serve uh two tickets as you are a commissioner for um one or you are 609 00:59:25,599 --> 00:59:31,200 a commissioner for both of them but you can only have a maximum of two since you 610 00:59:29,119 --> 00:59:35,040 are an individual. >> So you get two tickets for every event 611 00:59:33,200 --> 00:59:39,599 whether you serve on one or five commissions you'll get two tickets for 612 00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:44,680 each event. >> Two tickets. Yeah. For food, wine and 613 00:59:41,359 --> 00:59:44,680 brew. Correct. 614 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:51,720 four tickets. >> Four tickets for two events. 615 00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:59,920 » But you can't use four tickets at one event. You get two for each event. Two 616 00:59:58,079 --> 01:00:03,240 for the jazz festival and two for the food winner. 617 01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:15,799 All right. Now we will go to number nine. Uh do any of the commissioners 618 01:00:10,880 --> 01:00:15,799 have any items to report? 619 01:00:21,599 --> 01:00:33,040 Yes, I do. I have um one to report for August 5th, the summer block party and 620 01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:39,040 back to school giveaway that was at City Hall complex. That was a nice 621 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:47,280 party. When I came in there, I was shocked, pleasantly surprised to see a 622 01:00:42,799 --> 01:00:51,760 Tao group performing and they were all female 623 01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:59,599 and they rocked. So, I have to say that and uh I was 624 01:00:54,960 --> 01:01:03,960 happy to see that and that everyone once again had a great time. 625 01:01:05,280 --> 01:01:13,240 Uh, Commissioner Langley, 626 01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:13,240 no report. 627 01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:18,920 Commissioner Kohhan 628 01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:29,680 uh for those comm I mean the commissioner uh 629 01:01:25,839 --> 01:01:35,240 who decided not to go to the events. Uh if you have your ticket, you can pass it 630 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:35,240 out to me. 631 01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:41,079 I knew that was coming. 632 01:01:41,760 --> 01:01:47,319 Okay, Commissioner Sherman. 633 01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:52,280 » No report. Okay. 634 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:10,640 » All right. The planning and environmental quality quality commission 635 01:02:07,200 --> 01:02:18,440 will adjourn journ to the next meeting at 700 p.m. on Tuesday, September 2nd, 636 01:02:15,440 --> 01:02:18,440 2025.