[This transcript was generated automatically from audio using AI and hasn't been reviewed by a person -- it can contain mistakes, including plausible-sounding sentences that were never actually said. Treat it as a starting point, not a verbatim record.] [0:00] Oh, Joe, you just come and ask for money. Okay, welcome, everyone. We always start by honoring [0:10] old glory. We have a veteran in the audience today, Joe. Would you like to lead us [0:21] in [0:34] the [0:41] We're going to excuse Commissioner Taylor. [0:44] He's on an important detail, I think. [0:47] I agree. [0:48] The congressional tour, that's very important for our county, [0:53] brings folks out from Washington, D.C. every year, [0:55] and they tour the state of Utah and specifically [0:59] Garfield County. [1:02] So we'll excuse him. [1:03] We do have a column. [1:04] So Commissioner Tabs, anybody? [1:06] Barry, Camille, do we need that? [1:08] Anything to be agenda? [1:18] fire chief I don't bury him again look into it but I don't know I've been high and looked [1:24] into it. [1:27] So we take care of that and exactly be buried. [1:35] Okay I'll entertain a motion to [1:37] adopt the agenda. Motion to adopt the agenda. I'll second that motion all in favor. High. [1:43] Aye. [1:45] Minutes. [1:46] Commissioner Tevz. [1:47] Restart the minute. [1:48] Say the adequate. [1:50] Make motion. [1:50] Approved minutes. [1:51] That's a lie 27th meeting. [1:54] I'll second that motion. [1:56] All in favor. [1:57] Aye. [1:59] Board reports. [2:02] Commissioner Tevz. [2:04] I'll start with a question. [2:05] Hopefully they'll take in this congressional tour over on the fire. [2:10] At least the continent fire to see the destruction. [2:13] How bad they do. [2:14] One thing to show them and overgrown for us, but to show the effects of catastrophic [2:19] fires, hopefully they can look at that, but I'm sure they are. [2:25] I'm just, you know, we'll talk about one of my items to improve fire in the executive [2:31] session. [2:32] I've had a meeting of paint's lake fire and the NMS. [2:36] us, let them know about [2:42] that for them. [2:45] MBA, municipal bill and authority actually holds a building, so that's not an issue of [2:50] occupying the building. [2:51] I said that was a null issue, we're going to utilize space in the building for you to [2:56] ask. [2:57] And they didn't push back. [3:00] Did they? [3:01] Until I, um, one thing we might need to do is build little caves, caves area, or something [3:10] simple to be able to store some of the EMS where they have medications because [3:14] there's not a closet in the office. So we may need to construct something in [3:19] that building or the home building. But overall we talked about the truck, we [3:26] talked about and the fire chief was there so we were able to be clear and he understood. [3:34] We'll hope. I turned to him and said it's not your building so you have to be okay [3:39] with that and it's like, okay, anyways, I thought it was pretty good. We need the green [3:47] needs to come from us to them, how they can use the building. So I think Carr is going [3:57] to get with you and try to talk about my agreement. [4:01] We also talked about use of vehicles and [4:04] insurance. [4:05] You know, they only owe $200 or $200, sorry, $177 on the building and when, you know, [4:21] we have Camille here and she has a lot of institutional knowledge, like knowing that it was [4:28] a municipal building authority building, we didn't know that until Camille brought that [4:32] out. [4:41] She said the original intent was once the bonds are paid for but we would turn the building [4:48] over to them and they're completely responsive. [4:52] And I have a proposal to talk about that. [4:56] We can talk about that. [4:56] Yeah, we can discuss that, and I have some ideas as well. [5:02] Okay, I just, you know, those kind of things you just don't want to escape, because that's, that's important. [5:09] Yeah, there's several things like that are going to clean up before you do. [5:13] Okay, ten of the one in Utah summit is only able to get one day in, but, [5:19] It was excellent. They talked about, there's a lot of mining going on around the country [5:26] around the state. They're in Green River and a lot of areas and springing some economic [5:35] development areas and some resources into the state. It's great to listen to those. [5:50] They're [5:51] electrical components were in Enoch, and so anyways, and then they talked about public [5:59] land with Representative Alois and her with Red Johnson, and they just stubbed a [6:05] lot of the propaganda that's going on and told Jerry I said I wonder because he was [6:11] attending too, but I said I wonder how do you see it hopefully? Well, and so the new talk [6:17] because you hear so much crap on the internet, just attacking them, saying they're going to sell [6:22] private lands. Her opponents saying that there's some public lands that they laid it out, [6:28] that they don't have for sale, they're still protected under the Dinger Species Act, [6:34] the Wilson Assacks, the Footland, everything. All the protections are there, but the posing views [6:40] to this monument reduction continue to pop propaganda, and it is propaganda because it's not based in truth. [6:50] It's still public land, it's still protected under red list of probably 15 protection acts that protect public land. [6:59] And so, but I thought it was great, [7:05] and then they received well. [7:07] So, good. [7:08] That's the truth. [7:10] Good. [7:10] A lot of elected officials there, that reflects the people. [7:14] So, I thought that was really well. [7:16] And other than that, I don't have anything else right now. [7:21] Thank you, Commissioner. [7:23] I'll start with propaganda. [7:26] And I've been saying this my entire career, [7:29] because one of the first things I learned, and I'm sure that commissioner-elect [7:35] Birch will learn, is what you see in the media and what the special interest group [7:42] say is absolutely opposite of actual on-the-ground facts. [7:47] Fact 1, when we reduced it the first time, all of the businesses in Canabbe [7:52] was crying, we were going to go bankrupt, this is terrible. [7:58] on and on when I testified in Washington, DC with a business in Eskland, and one in Can [8:04] I have been on the end of the world, the visitation went up when we reduced it the first time. [8:11] I think because nobody even knew that it was there. [8:15] But visitation in the Vista Center's went up, not in a little bit, a lot. [8:20] So, that's one big one. The problem I have with the propaganda is they have a money machine. [8:30] They're an industry. They're a multi-billion dollar industry. And that's it. [8:35] So, Sierra Club, Wild Utah, wilderness society, they are an industry. [8:45] and people, that's what we need to educate the public. [8:49] These people are in business. [8:50] This is their money, cash cow. [8:52] They have to have hate, misery, and discontent [8:56] towards us and what we do on public lines, [8:58] because that's what pays the membership bills. [9:02] I mean, that's what brings people in. [9:05] So, I'm glad you did that, but I am gonna recommend this to me. [9:10] He didn't add a while back and they put it on TV, [9:14] We're talking about vegetating treatments and the value and it was a huge success. [9:20] What regularly needs to focus on is the state needs to once again do that and come out [9:27] with fact versus fiction, put it on TV, put it on social media, get it out there, especially [9:33] about this grand staircase. [9:36] So and the good thing about the grand staircase, these lands are protected, they're managed [9:42] by the same agency, the Bureau of Land Management still manages the lands. It's just the way they [9:48] should be managed on the multiple use lands versus the canyons of the Escalanti, which was the [9:54] 180,000 was all it should have ever been. That was even proposed by Garfield County in the early 90s. [10:02] And the reason they put the other end, this is not propaganda. Bill Clinton admitted this [10:07] to stop the parallax, coal mine, period, end of discussion. [10:13] So, I do have some good news on mining. I'm not going to say exact locations, [10:18] but we have some mining coming back to Garfield County. [10:22] Thanks to the Trump administration and his initiatives on mining, on public lands, [10:28] 93% of this county is federal, 3.5% state, so there are some mines coming back. [10:36] And one that was closed in the 1970s due to economic conditions is coming back because [10:43] of the demand for rare earth minerals and batteries and such, you know, these things. [10:52] So I've been working with a few groups trying to educate them. [10:55] They have questions, and I've spent a lot of time on that as I should as in my administrative [11:00] role as a commissioner. [11:16] I have a good announcement I like because I'm pro sawmill any kind of management, active management [11:28] to the forest is good, period. We've got to start managing our forests correctly, like they used [11:34] to be managed before these horrendous build-ups of fuel, which creates, once the fire goes, you've [11:41] got all this fuel, what's going to happen? You're going to have a catastrophic event like on the [11:46] Cottonwood Fire, Brian Head Fire, all over the state of Utah and all over the western United States. Now [11:52] Now, the company, as announced, I won't go into any details that they have been awarded [12:00] a grant from USDA to do pilots. [12:04] The good news about pilots is there's really an unlimited resource of, the reason USDA [12:11] is involved is because they're over the forest service and they have all this resource out [12:17] there that nobody can use on the commercial market. [12:20] It's not the case with pilots. [12:24] Once they make a pilot, they can sell it. [12:26] There's the hot market and it's not going to go down. [12:30] The demand is not going to go down. [12:32] So I'm happy to announce that, that we have a company that's [12:39] starting that congressional tour. [12:43] Commissioner Taylor and Commissioner Pearson from Beaver County [12:48] do a wonderful job with that. [12:49] We bring these, they bring them, we bring them, we'll tour them tomorrow up to Powell Point. [12:55] We bring them into our county and we bring them into the state Commissioner Ted said on the fires, [13:01] I'm sure they're going to tour a fire scene. [13:05] And these are Washington DC people that they live in their own little bubble back east. [13:10] They don't even know we exist out here. [13:13] And when they do come out here, they come out to see a rice canyon, grand canyon, Zion, whatever, and go home. [13:18] Well, these folks tour for a week through the state, and specifically Garfield County and [13:25] probably Beaver County, and they get to see what this is all about, public lands. [13:32] And I've been on several tours, and I tell these young folks, their staff members, mostly [13:38] of Democrats back in DC, that they're blown away. [13:43] They've been told so many, back to propaganda, so many lies about forest fires and climate [13:48] change and you know and you just show them and they're blown away so I think that's we need [13:54] to command Commissioner Taylor and Commissioner Pearson. However, Kaden, Dave, and Fallon, she's not here. [14:03] Will you be on standby tomorrow or if you are then recruited? Do [14:09] we [14:15] have any ATVs do we have now? [14:17] side by side. We got two the [14:25] sheriff's office and [14:28] the Jenny Wilson and the can [14:31] am. [14:39] Did you Joe? They might want to look just up above the pine lake for [14:47] You can get through, but it's nasty. [14:56] He's the specialist. He's not there. [15:00] And it's an emergency. [15:03] Anyway, and he doesn't like to walk equipment very far so he can touch [15:07] it up, I'm sure with whatever. So you and then tell file and if I don't, because you just [15:13] don't know, I mean, this sounds like it's a pretty good size to her this year. Yeah, no, [15:20] not be better for the mob cat. [15:27] Okay, very good. We're having that. Back to the forest [15:31] Just with having another meeting with the State Forestry and Forest Service in Garfield County, [15:37] we're coordinating on a good neighbor authority agreement and we've got some good things [15:44] happening. [15:44] I have 2 p.m. today. [15:46] It's an administrative meeting day. [15:48] If you want to attend Dr. Birch 2 p.m., Commissioner-elect Birch. [15:55] And that's on the new plan we have to deliver the resource for pallets, green timber and everything else to the sawmill scheme speak. [16:06] With that, that's all I have. Let's go to public works. [16:11] You [16:17] know the new group was able to help out with the firm they've finished the parking lot. [16:25] Well you tell them we really appreciate them and their help with the commissioners there. [16:39] Yeah, they were working on the parking lot for the airport, so they did just a gravel parking lot, expansion for the air show, those types of things. [16:49] We had a little bigger events there, and the parking was limited, so we had the road to Trudeau. [16:55] Spatting that out, they had their own gravel pit right there, so it wasn't too big. [16:59] but we got them. They have an outtropic, we talked about the spring projects, we had a [17:07] spring that was dry, there's going to be that out and go a little deeper, put a new [17:13] appropriate pipe in and hopefully a little bit more water out of that spring. We had a [17:20] quite a few washouts with these rain events, but the road crews been out, getting things [17:24] back open, we just have some more rain in the forecast for this week. I'm assuming that [17:30] we'll probably have, especially with all of these recent fires, France Canyon has created [17:36] issues for old town hatch, those types of areas. So we're seeing some bigger washouts where [17:46] we haven't had them historically just because of these burning scars. So yeah, anytime [17:52] train will probably be fixing the roads a little bit more of this next week with the [18:00] forecast. Other than that I don't really have anything new. Got the Grants all. [18:08] You're going to get on that. Yeah we have a couple of grants that are open right [18:12] now, the OHP one, the TRT mitigation grant, and then the other one Jerry's on the board. [18:21] Yeah, yeah, so the dead lights the end of this month on the head that [18:26] Yes, I believe so make sure [18:29] Reach out to Commissioner Cabeza as well get their number from [18:34] Commissioner Myers. Yeah, so I [18:38] reached out to Josh for two and he said he's [18:41] kind of you know taking this big you and fire chief [18:45] about [18:45] not he may not have mentioned you but [18:49] But we have come 31st to dispute any of the math for the wildlanders and the work days. [18:58] Even talking to you about it, I was talking to you in this table and you said you were talking [19:03] to where we can oppose certain areas of math, but we feel I don't think it's a criteria. [19:11] We better take a hard look at that. [19:12] I didn't think a really good look at it because, you know, [19:16] there's my ability to issue with that too, I don't know. [19:20] So, all right, and that deadline for those disputes [19:24] and areas would be, to appeal them would be, [19:29] August 33rd. [19:33] Josh is working on that, but it's safe there's any areas. [19:37] He said there's a few areas they feel like they shouldn't be in it, [19:40] but they'll let me know. [19:42] Well, maybe we can get insurance after that mountain comes out of it. [19:49] That's a very far lot of cabin looking. [19:52] The cabin would fire up the place. [19:53] The case is big. [19:55] I shouldn't have any ferns. [20:03] Anything from any? [20:05] I don't just what I told you, you guys. [20:07] I made somebody go with me. [20:13] And Jenny. [20:18] All right, thanks. [20:19] Yeah. [20:21] Gayden, what do you have? [20:26] We had a business license, but I don't think it got put on. [20:33] Anybody got anything for taking? [20:36] Okay. [20:37] I'm not a general plan public hearing music, because I don't like tea. [20:45] I don't have anything. [20:50] Joe, come on up, Bryce ATV Lally. You're kind of the Godfather of that. [21:00] We don't let [21:01] people quit. [21:06] Unless you die, you can die. I think that's the only way our Cooper got [21:13] out? No, I thought [21:20] you'd got a wine hiding. [21:26] Okay. [21:34] Okay. Okay. We had expanded it out. [21:37] that's not going to run down Jessica Landland, probably through the terrain only for lunches [21:47] and all that. [21:48] I was in a little bit. [21:52] Her trails and padshades this year were two ways about it. [21:56] Obviously, we lost power to her, which I just hadn't called me like. [21:59] Rocked her canyon. [22:01] Yes. [22:03] Her property passed and pulled the scooters on the road. [22:07] We're a bit old, right? [22:08] I'm just crazy, I'm hard at work. [22:11] We just can't put people at work, right? [22:13] I'm saying something. [22:15] I mentioned it once. [22:17] One up, finally. [22:18] I had asked, you know what I'm saying? [22:20] Yes, last week, I think he had. [22:22] Okay. [22:23] That's what I'm just telling you. [22:25] Okay. [22:26] Today, I'm going to, I think, I'm working on the same thing. [22:32] I'm going to share it. [22:38] I'm starting to get more political, right? [22:42] And I will never believe [22:48] what it was. [22:48] Right? [22:49] Yes. [22:49] But we do need a portion of work. [22:53] How's registration looking this year? [22:55] We're down. [22:56] Down a little bit. [22:58] And then we're about one second. [23:02] You have blasts and then people showing up though. [23:05] We do. [23:06] We do. [23:07] People drive up and probably get filled or whatever. [23:11] And I think part of it is the economy, [23:13] folks, just be honest about it. [23:15] RV and age is retirees. [23:19] Front one, but didn't. [23:25] But it makes life tough. [23:33] Well, when I went up nine percent under Biden, you're never going to get that back. [23:37] That's right. [23:38] People need to realize that you go up nine percent before you enter. [23:41] It come down a little. [23:42] I mean vehicles, graders went from like 230,000, now we're paying $4.50 for a dime grader. [23:50] So at bankrupt, during that Biden time at bankrupt, did our class be road budget? [23:57] Anyway. [23:57] All right, so you need $5,000. [23:59] If we can, please. [24:00] Well, what will the USB for the $5,000? [24:03] That would help sponsor the dinner on Saturday night. [24:07] OK? [24:08] I'll send some of them for calls there. [24:13] Such a key rally within a reasonable price [24:18] will sponsor some prices we give away $5 [24:24] ,000 for a grand price [24:25] on Saturday night. [24:28] But how much do I get for a $3,000 group? [24:38] One thing that I've noticed, and I remember you're using on the genesis of the rally. [24:45] And on that river lane, one of my father-in-law was alive, cleared back then and now. [24:52] And there was no ADV travel on that river lane road prior to that first one. [24:58] So it's not so much your 160 that come here. [25:02] it's they go home and then they come back again and again and again all throughout the [25:08] year when they used to do the Harley rally here they had a huge rally that one [25:15] year and then after that they all wanted Chevron Supreme gas and so every year [25:20] after that certain times what I'm saying my point is this this is a good cause [25:26] right here because you don't you don't just pay for this event or we don't sponsor [25:30] and just get one time. They come back again and again and again. And you can't tell me now [25:36] that that that remains flooded with people, even with the bridge out, that that didn't [25:43] help to start that initial rally. Plus, it's countywide. It's not just Pangwiches. So I [25:51] recommend we pay it, Dave. What about you? I'm okay with it. Yeah. [25:55] One thing I did do this morning, I went in and got the countywide ATV map. [26:03] Where would we want to reach in the packet? [26:05] You're [26:07] like saying a lot of people in the packet. [26:09] It's not just one time event. [26:11] I've seen it with my own eyes. [26:13] All right, would you like a motion to commission it? [26:15] I'll make a motion that we need. [26:17] We approve of the $5,000 support. [26:20] When are you? [26:21] We'll let. [26:23] They let them have your donations. [26:26] But I would recommend. [26:27] I would recommend that they next year. [26:31] go to the tribal council, the tribal council, they are giving many, that's where he's [26:39] coming from. [26:39] Let me rephrase that. [26:40] The recreation. [26:43] Which is so, so they, those that are, Terry and the torch understand that we do have a [26:50] county, the tribal council and its event funding, but they can request, but it'll come out [26:58] there. [26:58] That's budgeted every year, one for deadline. [27:02] Cardel just have to get on the agenda if you don't want to go out to it. [27:07] It's out at Ruby's every year. [27:10] So towards end of December, they have the funding application. [27:17] Well, it's not where they have it, it's not moving it's out there probably. [27:25] and I'm kind of trying to cut the car life out of it. [27:28] Okay, so she knows. [27:30] Good, good. [27:31] Good, well, thanks. [27:33] Thank you, appreciate all you do. [27:35] I'm here with Christian Pollock. [27:37] I've been straight to here, expanded some rides [27:39] in Estonia and had a morning, [27:41] and this helps all those communities getting engaged too. [27:45] We want to get all over the county, [27:47] not just band-reaching. [27:48] Yeah. [27:49] Yeah. [27:53] Good deal. [27:53] Okay, you're good. [27:55] Thank you very much. [27:56] Wait a minute. [27:56] How did you comfort both of you? [27:58] I made the motion. [27:59] All right. [28:00] I'll second it all in favor. [28:01] Hi. [28:02] There you go. [28:03] Now. [28:03] Uh oh. [28:05] Have a seat. [28:07] Okay. [28:08] Ty, what are you... [28:09] Do you have something on the... [28:12] What am I supposed to have here? [28:13] Ty, are we going to be executive? [28:15] Oh. [28:15] Okay. [28:16] All right. [28:18] And Ty, I would recommend you start coming to the Department of Ed meetings the first just [28:25] one a month. [28:27] Yeah. [28:27] You've got a new commissioner coming in at the first of the year and hopefully I think it's [28:31] good. [28:32] Pick that issue. [28:33] Yeah. [28:33] Yeah. [28:35] Oh, okay. [28:36] Yeah. [28:36] We'll fix that for you. [28:38] It doesn't surprise me that that's what it is. [28:39] That's part of the issue. [28:40] One of us. [28:41] Yeah. [28:41] One of the only one there. [28:42] It's hard to. [28:43] Exactly. [28:47] So Valley for Utah ranchers, what that is, the upper severe conservation board, voted [28:57] unanimously to support this, rally for the ranchers, what it is, is for all of the ranchers [29:05] that have lost cattle in the cottonwood fire, it was reported to me that we lost another [29:10] 150, the other day, Coss Robbins runs the auction, it's kind of a ghastly thing, he got [29:21] him out, they were burned a little bit, they couldn't run him through the auction so [29:25] they took him to the end of the butchered and the fat had just melted off of him so they [29:29] couldn't even butchered, so the animals had to be put down. [29:33] Those are the effects, those are the consequences these tree hunters do to us with their litigation [29:39] in an all their nonsense about climate change and everything else. [29:42] Those are the consequences, and if you can imagine all the wildlife. [29:47] But I am recommending, and this one individual rancher says, why don't we get something [29:53] for the ranchers that's, only the ranchers that have lost livestock, it can't be, all ranchers [29:59] Come on. [30:00] And with their handout, they have to have lost livestock in the cottonwood fire or other fires. And it's a statewide thing. It'll be held in Nephi, I believe. But I'm recommending that we at least match their $500 offer. At least match it. I'd like to give a little more. [30:26] Well, let's be, I would be able to become an event with like a rodeo or anything like that. [30:35] They're going to have like a silent auction. [30:39] It's kind of like our foundation dinner. [30:41] We're going to have that. [30:43] You know, we could sponsor it, but probably they would appreciate more. [30:49] Yeah. [30:49] Yeah, yeah, so they request them 500, I mean, I'd be okay doing more than 500. I think even that 2500, I'd be okay with it. [31:04] Okay. [31:05] Is that a motion? [31:06] Do you feel okay with that? [31:07] Oh, yeah, I do. [31:08] It's a good call. [31:10] It's catastrophic to one of these families and ranchers. [31:14] A lot of them are friends. [31:17] So I'd make emotionally offer $2,500 to that. [31:24] I'll second that all in favor. [31:28] Anyone interested you can go on Facebook or the Internet. [31:32] It's a rally for Utah ranchers. [31:34] They're asking for anything. [31:36] Any kind of donation they'd like people to attend. [31:39] Because they'll fundraise a little bit. [31:42] And every 100% of this will go back to the ranchers. [31:46] that lost livestock in the fire, or fires. [31:52] So I really like it. [31:54] Thank you. [31:55] Okay. [32:01] I get on my tangent when you know, it's a trigger word for you. [32:05] Fires are a trigger word for me. [32:09] Gate apartment business. [32:17] Yeah. [32:18] On this tape. [32:19] 2025. [32:20] Oh no, we're going to have this. [32:22] Gate. [32:23] Gate? [32:23] He's not with the actual star thing. [32:30] He's not familiar, but he could see it. [32:34] He's great. [32:35] The design bank is by the other thing. [32:42] Well, I wanted to have him here, so he could tell us where the only county in the state [32:48] has no death. [32:51] We even went into death. [32:53] They found every few years, but they were very good at that, but they were a little bit later [32:59] getting them being kidnapped, so they are already into municipality. [33:10] I just want to clarify, even though we talked about what's told on the fire station, that's [33:16] the fire district. [33:23] Yeah, you're right, you're right. [33:26] Okay, just really quick. [33:29] I'm just going to go into a couple of things. [33:32] So like on page nine, the management discussion [33:37] and the analysis, like the talk, and do the financial highlights. [33:45] So, at the end of 2025, our net position was 94.645 million, and that has an increase [33:57] of 7.5 million per cent from the prior year. [34:02] That includes all of our assets, land buildings, vehicles, equipment, everything, and our [34:12] cash. The accounts hospital would be on there. All that includes that. But that's [34:22] encouraging that we're going in the right direction. [34:29] But that has to have glasses [34:31] actually increased by 10%. So a lot of that was due not a lot, but some of that [34:40] But it's due to the new chef in right now. [34:44] So it's also just building how to use it. [34:51] Both our chefs. [34:53] Yeah. [34:53] We have them. [34:56] And then I can't move any further from there. [35:02] Anyway, if you want to see the breakdown of that, [35:05] it's a base routine, this kind of gives a breakdown [35:11] of how we got to the 8%, and then on, [35:26] so there are several things that are included. [35:29] If you go all the way through this, we have employment units and discretionary components. [35:42] That include, this year is the first year that we've had to list all the cemetery districts, [35:47] physics, the fire districts, everything in the site report. [35:53] And we have to have an audit from the two-wheeled fire to include in that. [36:01] So it was a little bit more intensive to get to that point, but that is all in here if [36:09] you want to. [36:13] There's your on page 52, is it break down at the firehouse, there are a bit of the bonds? [36:23] Well, but let me clarify one thing on that, that is the community up there's dead, it's [36:30] not in our first time, they're tied to taxes, they can't get out of it, we're not liable [36:35] for that, it's a community up there. [36:37] They voted and it's just like one language city has plant city tropic [36:42] They're separate from the county's debt. We're not liable for these community's debts [36:57] What I'm saying is every person up there would have to stop paying taxes [37:04] We're us to be liable, which is not gonna happen. So there's a 99.99% chance [37:11] that the remaining violence is going to be paid off by their citizens, is what I'm saying. [37:18] So just so people know and ask a lot, they're not paying for pay, which like, it's the [37:23] residents in that unincorporated community that are paying that revenue, and I know Camille, [37:28] I know that we could be, but that's not, you're right, it's not going to happen that this [37:36] This is breakdown up. These are the liabilities on this page. So, to come and say, we have to pay out all of the [37:44] employees that all of the employees have, consider a point. [37:51] So that's my ability to carry the long-term. [37:55] Yeah, that's a PES 1.6, but the cotton can say to that, since it will carry the PES 870.000. [38:06] That's a lot of cotton. [38:11] That's a sickly reputation and confiding all the bad. [38:18] I just have to clarify that we have no debt. [38:22] That's a big deal with me. [38:27] That looks good. [38:34] I study this every month right here. [38:37] Any finding or recommendations that we're concerned? [38:41] Well, it's all concerning. [38:44] Well, I mean, the very back, that new legislation makes us do the TRT and the TRCC and we worked [39:02] up together with the EMS, with the search policy, with the Sheriff's Office, they worked [39:09] with this down. And kind of, and I worked on it to get those forms filled out. And it has to be included in the audits. [39:21] That's very massive. [39:24] Doesn't look like that. [39:31] Okay, so there were some vehicles that were, yeah, there were some vehicles left on that asset list, and I take responsibility for it. [39:44] The last year, yeah, in 2025, we rebuilt the trash compactor at the Josh Valley Land [39:57] and it was all $1 million, it was $970,000. [40:02] I did not put it in as a new asset because it was repaired to our old habit and they wanted [40:10] me to put it in as a new asset. [40:12] So that's the main thing because if that value needed to be added and start [40:20] appreciation because the old one had been completely depreciated, that was my [40:26] bad. It's big enough that they bought it. I feel like you're the same thing. [40:34] And it is what it is. [40:37] And then, when this is me too, I missed getting the minutes [40:45] on the public notes website within a three days, [40:48] a couple of times, so they wrote stuff on that again. [40:51] This one makes me happy that I'm going to do something [40:53] about this year. [40:54] We were caring too much for us. [40:59] Good problem to have. [41:01] But we did some transfer to the capital [41:03] for the capital approval fund, right? [41:05] Well, you mentioned a half of it this year, so it was mostly carryover, but we'll make sure [41:15] that it's taking care of you for the end of the year. [41:17] But that's a good problem to have. I don't mind that at all. [41:21] There was one comment in the M-madement discussion now. [41:26] So this is because of our great clerk on stage 9 at the very bottom. [41:30] Dr. Kennedy continues to employ conservative debt management practices and maintain that [41:37] levels that are manageable relative to financial resources, operation needs in the long-term [41:43] obligation. [41:45] And that's because this good clerk, she does represent the serve mechanism. [41:54] I thought I was conservative time at the middle of the morning. [41:58] Well, these banks, that's a good thought round at the barbershop. [42:03] They can't be seen in Vietnam. [42:06] We could weather a storm. [42:08] We weathered one in 2020 and we were in this vision. [42:13] How would you like to be a corporation and have a business portfolio like that? [42:19] There's not one in Utah. [42:21] No debt, surplus money. [42:23] a lot of it, a strong fiscal responsibility each year to keep things tight. I mean, it really [42:32] is run like a business. We really have. I mean, there's no question it helped to have [42:39] three business owners. [42:45] I think the people of Garfield County need to know, and they need to know, [42:49] So they get a tax increase and they think that the commissioners have raised taxes no. [42:55] I've never raised taxes. [42:57] If the commissioner has to raise taxes 95% of the time, it's because the budget doesn't [43:05] balance at the end of the year and you have nothing to take out a surplus to cover it. [43:10] You have no other choice. [43:12] So as far as spending goes and everything, I really appreciate the team we've had here [43:17] because we have the commissioners thanks to our good auditor, business manager, [43:25] whatever. We've never raised taxes. That tax increased last fall. I have nothing [43:30] to do with the commissioners. So I'm hoping going forward we'll be able to keep [43:36] that model because Camille and I both know 16 years ago we didn't know. We really [43:42] did. We had some tough times. It's not like this just happened overnight. But we've worked [43:49] hard and we've got to a good place and it really is nice. You don't have to worry about [43:54] going through truth and taxation and going with your hat and hand to the public and saying, [43:59] we've got to raise taxes because we can't balance our, we're not running things right [44:03] basically. [44:04] Well, you know, you know, we paid cash for the remodeling in this building. [44:09] Thanks to you. [44:10] You stored that. [44:12] You saved that long before I come around. [44:15] And we're prepared to pay cash, hopefully, with some grant funding to do the expansion on the jail. [44:24] And we just paid cash for the remodel at the hospital. [44:29] We're doing what needs to be done, we're not bonding for any of those projects, we're [44:38] not letting things go, we're not doing what we need to do to keep things up, we just [44:45] save and we can't catch them, that makes a huge difference to be able to do that and [44:51] And people, what person in particular, it has the issue with our self plus. [45:00] But if we don't have the surplus, we can't, we won't be able to maintain doing what we can do with it. But if you look at the revenue that comes into our county, most of its intergovernmental sales hacks are tier t tied to tourism, which, if you have a dip in those, you don't have the funding and property tax, but just based on the property tax. [45:31] How many weeks could we operate the county in the 16th? [45:35] No, about 20 days. [45:37] 20 days. [45:38] 20 days. [45:39] Yeah, so remember that part of the merch? [45:42] And Jerry had to do that. [45:47] Do a figure and we figured it out. [45:50] And it was within one or two days of what you've already overstepped. [45:54] I think it was 18 days. [45:55] Well, originally all we did was take the operating cost and go, [45:59] So, what does it cost us per day just to keep the doors open throughout the county? [46:05] But I'll add something to that too, and I don't want to, because we get criticized [46:10] so often, but I want the public to know. [46:13] Also, a lot of these counties get their funding from mineral resource money, oil, gas, mining, [46:24] and that's up and down. [46:26] And so they go out and bond, which you didn't do and I didn't do when we built this [46:31] courthouse, because we lost a million dollars a year, remember? [46:36] So you say we will never get that back. [46:39] A lot of counties will go out like you and a county did, and they spend like drunk and [46:44] safe person. [46:45] They have all this debt and then all of a sudden all that money, millions of dollars goes [46:50] away. [46:51] Well where do they go? [46:52] they go to the taxpayers and say we have to do that or they've got what they're doing. [46:57] Some counties have done that. Some counties have raised up to 70 percent in one year. [47:03] So that's my soapbox speech for today. Thank you, Camille. Do you have anything to add? [47:07] No, just for your information. Here today, on those funds that we got well over a million [47:14] dollars a year from those minimum spending that we're at, traded out. This year, July 3rd, [47:21] We had received $5,699. [47:25] That's another trigger word with me. [47:28] That's the land exchange distribution account [47:30] where they took 280,000 acres [47:33] when they created this monument, Commissioner Birch. [47:36] 280,000 lucrative acres. [47:39] I mean, the Adelix coal mine was in part of it, [47:42] Cain County, but still, they took all of that [47:45] and they traded it to other counties [47:47] based on the hope that the donating counties would be compensating. We were [47:53] compensated for five, six years, and it's all gone away. So, more world of the [48:00] story is, don't trust the federal government, don't ever trade out land and [48:06] get it to the federal government, including for the Indian school. Don't ever do [48:12] that because that was exactly what was going to happen. Governor Levitt said, [48:16] Oh, you're going to get all this money and you can't do any of it. [48:20] Well, the truth of the matter is maybe we couldn't have done some of the mining activities [48:23] but we could have for sure done range improvement and water development on that 280,000 acres [48:29] helped the wildlife and the ranchers and all the way around. [48:33] So, thank you for me. [48:35] Anything else, Commissioner? [48:42] We have to have... [48:44] We've already done that. [48:45] Yeah. [48:49] Yeah, this is just just for years. [48:51] I was wondering why that point is so difficult to read it. [48:54] I'm worried about it. [49:00] Human Services Board Appointment. [49:04] I think that that is last to eight. [49:08] I haven't talked to anybody yet. [49:10] Better name? [49:14] I see a new person in the audience. [49:17] Maybe she wants to be able to do that. [49:19] That'll teach you to come to meetings. [49:22] It's like going to church and you have to get up and bury your testimony when it's not testimony meeting. [49:30] No agencies here to report imagine that. [49:35] They don't like to come in when the buyers are aging, do they bury? [49:41] Okay, executive session is the only thing remaining. [49:44] I'll entertain a motion to go into executive session regarding personnel, [49:49] potential litigation in the executive session we're going to invite [49:53] Commissioner-elect Birch and all of us we need the tie Ramsey with Rice Gang in [50:00] our port. What about the twins there? They need to be in. Hayden Figgins and [50:07] they yeah one can't go without the other and I mean that is a compliment. [50:17] I'm going to be here for a very important discussion. [50:21] Yeah, we can go out for a moment as Texas. [50:24] We'll text you okay. [50:26] Did I get everybody buried? [50:27] All of us up here so we'll legal. [50:32] I'll entertain a motion. [50:34] Make motion going to the executive session. [50:38] I'll second thoughts. [50:43] We're [50:46] back on Qaeda okay we've concluded our items on the agenda today [50:52] I'll entertain a motion to adjourn, we adjourn, my second, that motion we're adjourned.