1 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:46,469 Everybody down. 2 00:05:46,479 --> 00:05:48,720 Good evening and welcome to Garner to 3 00:05:48,720 --> 00:05:51,039 the town council regular meeting of 4 00:05:51,039 --> 00:05:53,840 September 1st, 2026. 5 00:05:53,840 --> 00:05:55,520 And as I call the meeting to order, I 6 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,120 just have to say again what a beautiful 7 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:58,960 day it's been in Garner. Not just 8 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:00,880 weatherwise. was a little warm, but it 9 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:03,120 started out great for me. I was able to 10 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:06,319 attend a local business here where one 11 00:06:06,319 --> 00:06:08,080 employee had saved the life of another 12 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:10,400 through his diligence and attention and 13 00:06:10,400 --> 00:06:12,479 care. And it just and they came from all 14 00:06:12,479 --> 00:06:14,009 over the country to recognize this 15 00:06:14,009 --> 00:06:15,759 [clears throat] guy. And it just really 16 00:06:15,759 --> 00:06:17,600 started my day off thinking about love 17 00:06:17,600 --> 00:06:19,520 and helping our neighbor and what a 18 00:06:19,520 --> 00:06:21,680 great place Garner is and how lucky we 19 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,520 are to have the great team working with 20 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,840 us here. It started my day on the right 21 00:06:25,840 --> 00:06:27,520 foot. I even went home and put my little 22 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:32,000 heart up here. It's just a lovely, day to certify. So, thank you. 23 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:33,440 And that being said, I'm going to ask 24 00:06:33,440 --> 00:06:36,000 the town clerk to please call the role. 25 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:36,960 >> Mayor Gupton 26 00:06:36,960 --> 00:06:37,680 >> here. 27 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:39,039 >> Mayor Pro Tim Dinger 28 00:06:39,039 --> 00:06:39,520 >> here. 29 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:40,800 >> Council member Matthews 30 00:06:40,800 --> 00:06:41,280 >> here. 31 00:06:41,280 --> 00:06:42,479 >> Council member Singleton 32 00:06:42,479 --> 00:06:43,039 >> here. 33 00:06:43,039 --> 00:06:44,160 >> Council member Stallings 34 00:06:44,160 --> 00:06:44,560 >> here. 35 00:06:44,560 --> 00:06:45,759 >> And council member Vance 36 00:06:45,759 --> 00:06:46,720 >> here. 37 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:48,560 >> Yes. I'm going to ask Mayor Pro Tim 38 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:50,400 Dinger to lead the pledge of allegiance 39 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:52,720 and inspiration. Uh, please stand if you 40 00:06:52,720 --> 00:06:57,029 are able. 41 00:06:57,039 --> 00:07:00,400 Pledge to the flag of the United States 42 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:03,280 of America and to the republic for which 43 00:07:03,280 --> 00:07:06,800 it stands. One nation under God, 44 00:07:06,800 --> 00:07:09,199 indivisible, with liberty and justice 45 00:07:09,199 --> 00:07:12,304 for all. 46 00:07:12,304 --> 00:07:20,309 [clears throat and cough] 47 00:07:20,319 --> 00:07:21,199 » Invocation. 48 00:07:21,199 --> 00:07:22,000 >> Yes, 49 00:07:22,000 --> 00:07:22,479 >> you. 50 00:07:22,479 --> 00:07:24,240 >> I know. I thought you were going to 51 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,880 recognize me. Uh Jo please join me if 52 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,199 you want. 53 00:07:29,199 --> 00:07:32,000 Thank you Lord for this day to live, be 54 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:34,880 and serve in this town we call home. 55 00:07:34,880 --> 00:07:37,199 Grant us the wisdom and grace to lead 56 00:07:37,199 --> 00:07:41,120 but also to follow, speak, to listen and 57 00:07:41,120 --> 00:07:43,599 to be heard and to hear and be with 58 00:07:43,599 --> 00:07:45,759 those in need of your comfort. In your 59 00:07:45,759 --> 00:07:47,520 name we pray. Amen. 60 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:48,000 >> Amen. 61 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,319 Thank you, sir. Uh [clears throat] 62 00:07:50,319 --> 00:07:53,280 item B on our agenda is adoption of of 63 00:07:53,280 --> 00:07:55,919 the agenda. Uh, council members, I think 64 00:07:55,919 --> 00:07:57,520 you had a chance to look this over. Is 65 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,360 there a motion to adopt the agenda? 66 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:00,080 >> So, move. 67 00:08:00,080 --> 00:08:00,800 >> Second. 68 00:08:00,800 --> 00:08:03,120 >> There's a motion by Mr. Stalin, second 69 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,919 by Mr. Vance. If no discussion, we'll 70 00:08:05,919 --> 00:08:08,080 have a voice vote. All in favor of 71 00:08:08,080 --> 00:08:10,240 adopting the agenda, please signify by 72 00:08:10,240 --> 00:08:11,599 saying I. 73 00:08:11,599 --> 00:08:13,919 >> Any opposed by nay hearing? None. That 74 00:08:13,919 --> 00:08:17,280 passes unanimously. Thank you. Item C, 75 00:08:17,280 --> 00:08:19,680 presentations. I don't think we have any 76 00:08:19,680 --> 00:08:22,639 presentations uh this evening. takes us 77 00:08:22,639 --> 00:08:25,680 along to item D, which is petitions and 78 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:28,080 comments. Alco attorney or town clerk, 79 00:08:28,080 --> 00:08:30,240 any folks signed up to speak tonight? 80 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:31,440 >> No, sir. 81 00:08:31,440 --> 00:08:33,919 >> Golly, that's simple, isn't it? Moving 82 00:08:33,919 --> 00:08:36,560 right along to item E, and this is the 83 00:08:36,560 --> 00:08:39,200 consent agenda. Uh, this is a relatively 84 00:08:39,200 --> 00:08:42,240 small number of more administrative uh 85 00:08:42,240 --> 00:08:44,959 kind of factors. Our town council had a 86 00:08:44,959 --> 00:08:47,440 chance has had a chance to look at these 87 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:50,000 and to see if we can pass these in mass 88 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:52,720 as one motion or if we need to pull one 89 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:54,959 out for more attention. Uh council 90 00:08:54,959 --> 00:08:56,959 members, are there any that need to be 91 00:08:56,959 --> 00:09:00,080 pulled out discussed individually? Uh if 92 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:03,200 not, I will accept a motion to approve 93 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,680 the consent agenda. 94 00:09:05,680 --> 00:09:08,000 >> So second 95 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,320 >> boy, there's an echo in this room. I 96 00:09:10,320 --> 00:09:12,399 think it Mr. Dinger made the motion. Mr. 97 00:09:12,399 --> 00:09:15,920 Advance seconded. Close enough. Okay. 98 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,399 All in favor of adopting the consent 99 00:09:18,399 --> 00:09:22,000 agenda, please signify by saying I. 100 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:25,360 >> Any opposed by nay. 101 00:09:25,360 --> 00:09:27,200 Any that are opposed, please signify by 102 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,320 saying nay. And there are none. And that 103 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:32,720 passes unanimously. The consent agenda 104 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:36,959 is adopted. And moving right along to 105 00:09:36,959 --> 00:09:40,000 item F, public hearings. And we do have 106 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:41,760 several of these. And some of these are 107 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:43,920 interesting as usual this evening. 108 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:46,560 They're all interesting indeed. Uh the 109 00:09:46,560 --> 00:09:49,440 first one tonight is a public hearing uh 110 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,920 concerning the voluntary contiguous 111 00:09:51,920 --> 00:09:54,560 annexation of Timber Thompson 112 00:09:54,560 --> 00:09:57,600 Commercial. Our presenter is our 113 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:00,320 planning director, Mr. Jeff Trezenberg. 114 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:01,920 If you'll uh please give us a little 115 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,560 overview of the situation uh and what 116 00:10:04,560 --> 00:10:11,670 we're working on this evening. 117 00:10:11,680 --> 00:10:14,240 Good evening, Mayor Council. 118 00:10:14,240 --> 00:10:16,480 Yes. Uh, tonight we have just one brief 119 00:10:16,480 --> 00:10:19,360 annexation request for you. Um, the 120 00:10:19,360 --> 00:10:21,040 public hearing was set for today with 121 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,279 the proper advertisements. 122 00:10:23,279 --> 00:10:25,760 It is a contiguous annexation at the 123 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:30,160 corner of Timber and Thompson uh road. 124 00:10:30,160 --> 00:10:33,360 Scroll down here. You can see uh the 125 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,360 site in question directly across from 126 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:37,200 Timber Drive Elementary School and the 127 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,720 EMS station. Uh the property is zoned 128 00:10:40,720 --> 00:10:45,040 NMX. It in the property itself is 3.68 129 00:10:45,040 --> 00:10:48,720 acres and the intervening ride ofway 130 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:50,640 shaded in red that we'll be bringing in 131 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:53,760 with it is 1.87. 132 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:56,000 Uh the project itself, again, this was a 133 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,592 site plan uh that was reviewed by staff. 134 00:10:59,592 --> 00:11:01,519 [clears throat] About 19,000 square feet 135 00:11:01,519 --> 00:11:05,200 of office retail and about a 10,000 plus 136 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:08,079 uh square foot daycare divided into 137 00:11:08,079 --> 00:11:15,430 three buildings 138 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,440 and that is basically uh the general 139 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:23,200 information associated with it. Um, we 140 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:27,040 do have the ordinance 20265398 141 00:11:27,040 --> 00:11:30,079 prepared for you should you decide to um 142 00:11:30,079 --> 00:11:32,560 adopt the annexation. Mr. Daniel Gunter 143 00:11:32,560 --> 00:11:34,560 is here tonight in case you do have any 144 00:11:34,560 --> 00:11:38,320 questions of the petitioner. Um, but 145 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:39,920 otherwise 146 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,360 uh that's all I have for you this 147 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,440 evening. 148 00:11:43,440 --> 00:11:46,160 >> Okay, that was pretty direct there. Are 149 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,160 there any individuals who have signed up 150 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,240 to speak on this item this evening? 151 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:51,360 >> No, sir. 152 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,279 >> And Mr. Freezenberg. Uh, does your 153 00:11:53,279 --> 00:11:57,440 applicant wish to make a presentation? 154 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,440 Okay. Uh, and so let me uh let me ask 155 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:02,800 council members who wish to make 156 00:12:02,800 --> 00:12:04,480 comments or ask questions. Let's start 157 00:12:04,480 --> 00:12:07,279 with Mr. Vance related to this project, 158 00:12:07,279 --> 00:12:09,440 the Timber Thompson commercial 159 00:12:09,440 --> 00:12:10,720 questions. Comments? 160 00:12:10,720 --> 00:12:12,000 >> No questions. 161 00:12:12,000 --> 00:12:12,800 >> Mr. Dinger? 162 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:13,680 >> No questions. 163 00:12:13,680 --> 00:12:14,399 >> Mr. T. 164 00:12:14,399 --> 00:12:15,440 >> No questions. 165 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:16,320 >> Mr. Singleton? 166 00:12:16,320 --> 00:12:16,880 >> No question. 167 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:18,560 >> Okay. Well, thank you. This is one that 168 00:12:18,560 --> 00:12:20,079 you've done your homework on. I'm 169 00:12:20,079 --> 00:12:23,440 thinking we've really looked at this and 170 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:25,600 there no individuals assigned up. So, we 171 00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:29,120 will close the public meeting now and we 172 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:31,519 will ask if there's a motion and a 173 00:12:31,519 --> 00:12:36,790 second to approve ordinance 20265398. 174 00:12:36,800 --> 00:12:37,519 » Some moved. 175 00:12:37,519 --> 00:12:38,320 >> Second. 176 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:41,279 >> Uh motion by Mr. Singleton and a second 177 00:12:41,279 --> 00:12:44,320 by Mr. Stalins. Uh is there any other 178 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,639 discussion regarding this particular 179 00:12:46,639 --> 00:12:49,600 project? Hearing none, we'll call for a 180 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:53,120 voice vote on this one. All in favor of 181 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:56,160 passing uh this annexation, please 182 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,639 signify by saying I. I. 183 00:12:58,639 --> 00:13:02,000 >> Any opposed? By nay. Hearing none. This 184 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:04,240 passes unanimously. Thank you very much. 185 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:06,320 Thank you, Mr. Trezenberg, and all the 186 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:07,440 folks that have helped put this 187 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:10,240 together. Our item under public 188 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,519 hearings, item 1.2 is fire protection 189 00:13:13,519 --> 00:13:15,760 ordinance amendments. has been given a 190 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:18,240 lot of study by the legal staff and I 191 00:13:18,240 --> 00:13:19,920 believe we're going to have Miss Diamond 192 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:22,959 Spain that give us an overview of what 193 00:13:22,959 --> 00:13:41,509 we're looking at here. 194 00:13:41,519 --> 00:13:44,079 Good evening everyone. I am Diamond 195 00:13:44,079 --> 00:13:46,560 Spain, the assistant town attorney. We 196 00:13:46,560 --> 00:13:50,240 are going to go over the chapter 4 197 00:13:50,240 --> 00:13:53,040 proposed amendments. Uh so we previously 198 00:13:53,040 --> 00:13:56,000 discussed the addition of the North 199 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,920 Carolina fire prevention code being 200 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:01,199 adopted. We also addressed the change in 201 00:14:01,199 --> 00:14:03,120 the structure essentially since the 202 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:06,959 merger uh that which lays out the duties 203 00:14:06,959 --> 00:14:10,854 of Garner fire rescue and the fire chief 204 00:14:10,854 --> 00:14:12,959 [clears throat] use requirements for 205 00:14:12,959 --> 00:14:15,680 recreational fires, outdoor fireplaces 206 00:14:15,680 --> 00:14:17,839 and fire pits and bonfires which falls 207 00:14:17,839 --> 00:14:21,920 under our open burnings uh ordinance. 208 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:25,279 We also remove references to negotiation 209 00:14:25,279 --> 00:14:27,279 between council and the volunteer fire 210 00:14:27,279 --> 00:14:30,720 department again because of the merger. 211 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:34,399 Uh a larger portion that we added was 212 00:14:34,399 --> 00:14:37,839 the central station monitoring service. 213 00:14:37,839 --> 00:14:41,279 This is again applicable to commercial 214 00:14:41,279 --> 00:14:42,800 properties 215 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,040 uh which will require essentially a 216 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:48,480 system that u makes for more efficient 217 00:14:48,480 --> 00:14:50,000 responses. 218 00:14:50,000 --> 00:14:52,079 Uh there will not be a retroactive 219 00:14:52,079 --> 00:14:53,839 application. There's a grace period of 220 00:14:53,839 --> 00:14:56,480 one year to allow enforcement of this 221 00:14:56,480 --> 00:14:58,240 and maybe have some people have the 222 00:14:58,240 --> 00:15:01,120 opportunity to adjust. Uh residential 223 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,279 enforcement options are more lenient. 224 00:15:03,279 --> 00:15:05,279 They are not required to have this 225 00:15:05,279 --> 00:15:09,600 particular uh central station monitoring 226 00:15:09,600 --> 00:15:11,440 service that is specific to commercial. 227 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,440 But we did go ahead and address the the 228 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:16,240 false alarms there as specific to the 229 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,800 fire department response. 230 00:15:18,800 --> 00:15:23,600 uh the intent is of course to focus more 231 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:26,720 on education than punishment for these 232 00:15:26,720 --> 00:15:29,519 failures to comply. And so in the 233 00:15:29,519 --> 00:15:32,800 proposed ordinance, we um kind of have a 234 00:15:32,800 --> 00:15:35,920 tier tiered implementation of 235 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:38,000 enforcement as far as giving them an 236 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:40,399 opportunity to participate in a class 237 00:15:40,399 --> 00:15:43,760 first after the first instance of a 238 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:47,360 after the first few instances of a false 239 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,240 alarm. it eventually going up to a 240 00:15:50,240 --> 00:15:53,279 subsequent $100 civil penalty specific 241 00:15:53,279 --> 00:15:56,000 to commercial properties in the event 242 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,040 that they are acting in good faith and 243 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,519 they are attempting to bring themselves 244 00:16:01,519 --> 00:16:03,920 into compliance after triggering the 245 00:16:03,920 --> 00:16:05,920 requirement to update their systems if 246 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,560 it's not a new one that that at that 247 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,800 point any civil penalties we are willing 248 00:16:10,800 --> 00:16:12,560 to wave them so long as they are 249 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,360 actually continuously making good good 250 00:16:15,360 --> 00:16:17,360 faith efforts to comply with this 251 00:16:17,360 --> 00:16:22,389 requirement. department. 252 00:16:22,399 --> 00:16:24,240 So, we did not receive any public 253 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:27,360 comments specific to this particular 254 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,079 chapter. Uh, but that link is still 255 00:16:30,079 --> 00:16:31,759 available for the public if they would 256 00:16:31,759 --> 00:16:34,956 like to do so and we do encourage that. 257 00:16:34,956 --> 00:16:37,350 [snorts] 258 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:43,110 Uh, any questions from council? 259 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:46,480 » Any any questions at this point for Miss 260 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,320 Diamond? 261 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:49,600 No. 262 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,320 >> Similar to what we saw previously with 263 00:16:52,320 --> 00:16:56,560 chapter 18 and 11, uh council will have 264 00:16:56,560 --> 00:17:00,959 to vote twice because in this chapter we 265 00:17:00,959 --> 00:17:04,079 are uh including additional criminal 266 00:17:04,079 --> 00:17:06,079 penalties. 267 00:17:06,079 --> 00:17:08,000 So 268 00:17:08,000 --> 00:17:10,319 these will be specific to these sections 269 00:17:10,319 --> 00:17:13,280 listed here where we included provisions 270 00:17:13,280 --> 00:17:17,360 for interfering with um vehicles that 271 00:17:17,360 --> 00:17:18,880 are interfering with or people who are 272 00:17:18,880 --> 00:17:21,520 congregating where uh Garner fire rescue 273 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,199 is assembled for the purpose of of 274 00:17:23,199 --> 00:17:25,919 course carrying out their duties. uh 275 00:17:25,919 --> 00:17:27,839 interference with the firefighter or the 276 00:17:27,839 --> 00:17:30,400 apparatus or in [clears throat] regard 277 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:32,960 to our prohibition of certain open 278 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,960 burnings because we added those sections 279 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,120 that specifically indicate recreational 280 00:17:37,120 --> 00:17:38,880 fires, fireplaces, fire pits, and 281 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:42,000 bonfires. Those also could bring about 282 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,600 additional 283 00:17:43,600 --> 00:17:46,160 um criminal penalties. And so we would 284 00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:50,080 need that second vote. And as far as 285 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:54,240 chapter 4, that is all of the changes 286 00:17:54,240 --> 00:18:00,310 that we are proposing at this time. 287 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:03,520 » Okay. Uh have any individuals signed up 288 00:18:03,520 --> 00:18:05,039 to speak on this item? 289 00:18:05,039 --> 00:18:06,320 >> No, sir. 290 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:09,039 >> No. Okay. Uh so let's run by council 291 00:18:09,039 --> 00:18:11,120 members again and ask if there's any 292 00:18:11,120 --> 00:18:13,360 questions or comments related to the 293 00:18:13,360 --> 00:18:15,840 fire protection ordinance amendment. Mr. 294 00:18:15,840 --> 00:18:16,799 Vance, 295 00:18:16,799 --> 00:18:17,520 >> no questions. 296 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:18,880 >> Comments. Mr. Ballinger, 297 00:18:18,880 --> 00:18:19,520 >> no questions. 298 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:20,160 >> Mr. Challen, 299 00:18:20,160 --> 00:18:20,640 >> no question. 300 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:21,440 >> Mr. Singleton, 301 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:22,160 >> no question. 302 00:18:22,160 --> 00:18:23,919 >> Okay, everybody's done their homework. 303 00:18:23,919 --> 00:18:26,080 Uh, and that I believe we will close the 304 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:29,120 public meeting now and we'll move along 305 00:18:29,120 --> 00:18:31,600 uh to asking council members, is there a 306 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:33,840 motion to adopt ordinance number 307 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:36,640 20265396 308 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:39,120 amending chapter 4 subject to the 309 00:18:39,120 --> 00:18:44,789 enactment of general statute 16A-175. 310 00:18:44,799 --> 00:18:46,720 » So moved. So 311 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,520 >> motion by Mr. Mr. Vance, 312 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,919 >> second by Mr. Stalins. If [cough] 313 00:18:51,919 --> 00:18:52,799 there's no further [clears throat] 314 00:18:52,799 --> 00:18:55,440 discussion, I'll call for voice vote on 315 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:57,760 adopting this amend this motion, this 316 00:18:57,760 --> 00:19:00,480 ordinance. All those in favor, please 317 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:02,320 signify by saying I. 318 00:19:02,320 --> 00:19:03,039 >> I. 319 00:19:03,039 --> 00:19:06,960 >> Any opposed by nay? Hearing none, uh, it 320 00:19:06,960 --> 00:19:08,880 passes unanimously. Thank you very much 321 00:19:08,880 --> 00:19:11,760 for your good work. Uh the the legal 322 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,919 staff spent a lot of time getting all 323 00:19:13,919 --> 00:19:16,720 this stuff in in order with state law 324 00:19:16,720 --> 00:19:22,400 and all the things we have to go by. And for the next one, uh item 1.3, we 325 00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,480 have a similar situation, traffic 326 00:19:24,480 --> 00:19:27,280 control ordinance amendments. And our 327 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,039 presenter here is our town attorney, 328 00:19:29,039 --> 00:19:30,880 Miss Terry Jones. 329 00:19:30,880 --> 00:19:33,919 >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. Um as you know, 330 00:19:33,919 --> 00:19:35,760 this project is near and dear to my 331 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,640 heart. Um it's been a long time as we're 332 00:19:38,640 --> 00:19:40,480 working our way through our code of 333 00:19:40,480 --> 00:19:43,360 public uh our code of ordinances for the 334 00:19:43,360 --> 00:19:45,440 town of Garner. 335 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,440 Again, we the legal department's been 336 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,919 working on several of these. I'm 337 00:19:49,919 --> 00:19:52,240 particularly pleased that we can do 338 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,200 changes to chapter 10. Um this will 339 00:19:55,200 --> 00:19:57,360 reduce the number of pages in our code 340 00:19:57,360 --> 00:20:00,000 of ordinance by a great deal by the 341 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:02,960 adoption of an official traffic control 342 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,400 map. 343 00:20:04,400 --> 00:20:07,039 Um so as you can see it's a brief 344 00:20:07,039 --> 00:20:10,240 summary of the changes uh to chapter 10 345 00:20:10,240 --> 00:20:13,520 are codifying various traffic control 346 00:20:13,520 --> 00:20:15,840 measures on an official map which is 347 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:18,720 authorized by state law. Um some new 348 00:20:18,720 --> 00:20:22,400 additions are um creating a penalty for 349 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,360 grass or weeds that are obstructing 350 00:20:25,360 --> 00:20:28,080 drains, gutters, streets and sidewalks. 351 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,200 Um, also prohibiting the obstruction of 352 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:35,120 access to mailboxes and mail zones. Uh, 353 00:20:35,120 --> 00:20:37,840 many new subdivisions are required by 354 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:39,600 the US Postal Service to have a 355 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:42,000 designated mail area rather than 356 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,960 individual mailboxes at the residences. 357 00:20:44,960 --> 00:20:47,600 And then um what um assistant town 358 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,640 attorney Spain talked about um in some 359 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:52,880 detail at the work session was uh 360 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:56,480 regulating ebikes or electric assisted 361 00:20:56,480 --> 00:20:58,640 um bikes defining them and regulating 362 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:00,559 them and that creates an entire new 363 00:21:00,559 --> 00:21:04,950 article to chapter 10. 364 00:21:04,960 --> 00:21:07,200 So again, with the implementation of an 365 00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:10,960 interactive mapping tool, u several of 366 00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:14,640 these u sections you'll see will now 367 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:16,640 instead of being listed within the code 368 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,559 of ordinances, 369 00:21:18,559 --> 00:21:21,440 uh they will now be shown on the map. as 370 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:23,679 new subdivisions come online, you'll 371 00:21:23,679 --> 00:21:25,919 still need to adopt an ordinance uh 372 00:21:25,919 --> 00:21:28,799 adopting stop signs, but what we'll do 373 00:21:28,799 --> 00:21:31,440 is they'll automatically go on the map 374 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,000 instead of being sent to our codifier 375 00:21:34,000 --> 00:21:37,679 munic uh to put into the code. So, these 376 00:21:37,679 --> 00:21:41,360 are um seven of the provisions that we 377 00:21:41,360 --> 00:21:44,000 can add to the to the map at this time. 378 00:21:44,000 --> 00:21:47,360 Uh we can also add additional ones as as 379 00:21:47,360 --> 00:21:50,400 they become uh 380 00:21:50,400 --> 00:21:52,960 as they become adopted in the future. Um 381 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:54,720 some of our older ordinances we will 382 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,600 have to do a few corrections too because 383 00:21:57,600 --> 00:21:59,280 um the ordinance didn't come with 384 00:21:59,280 --> 00:22:02,000 dimensions that could be mapped you know 385 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,360 like for a no parking zone um you know 386 00:22:05,360 --> 00:22:08,000 from a specific point to another 387 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:10,480 specific point. So, we'll be uh bringing 388 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,200 those back to you as as those are 389 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:16,159 uncovered. Um, at this point, I'm going 390 00:22:16,159 --> 00:22:18,720 to ask uh Mr. Bone to come up and 391 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,159 demonstrate u what we have on the map um 392 00:22:22,159 --> 00:22:33,830 to date. 393 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:35,440 » Good evening, Mr. Mayor, members of 394 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:37,600 council. Um I don't think anyone is a 395 00:22:37,600 --> 00:22:39,919 stranger to this. I been shown off at a 396 00:22:39,919 --> 00:22:43,280 few other meetings. U like Miss Jones 397 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,559 said, this is codifying uh a map that 398 00:22:46,559 --> 00:22:48,960 will hold all of our stop and yield 399 00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:50,960 conditions, our school zones, speed 400 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:53,760 limits, um several different parking 401 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,080 restrictions, um as well as through 402 00:22:56,080 --> 00:22:58,559 traffic. 403 00:22:58,559 --> 00:23:00,960 And not only does these do these put 404 00:23:00,960 --> 00:23:02,640 like a location on these, but they also 405 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,799 retain the same textual elements as they 406 00:23:04,799 --> 00:23:06,320 were when they were on the code of 407 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:26,630 ordinances. 408 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,039 parking restrictions include our no 409 00:23:29,039 --> 00:23:31,200 parking zones, our residential parking 410 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,520 permits, our 1-hour parking, and our 411 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,760 loading zones. Uh the latter two are 412 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,640 just one section off of uh in historic 413 00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:41,830 downtown. 414 00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:43,280 » Are there any questions about any 415 00:23:43,280 --> 00:23:44,799 specific 416 00:23:44,799 --> 00:23:48,320 sections or the map in general? 417 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:52,950 >> Any questions? 418 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,200 » The will will this be open to the 419 00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:55,679 public? 420 00:23:55,679 --> 00:23:56,880 >> Yes, absolutely. 421 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:59,200 >> Okay. Good. Will be will we be able to 422 00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:02,320 find out where it's pretty easy access 423 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,320 for the public to go to this map and and 424 00:24:04,320 --> 00:24:04,960 find it? 425 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:07,120 >> Yes, 426 00:24:07,120 --> 00:24:08,640 >> Mr. Dinger. 427 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:10,240 >> I just want to I think I've mentioned 428 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:11,840 this before. I appreciate all the hard 429 00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:14,240 work and change taking all that code and 430 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:16,480 putting it into the map the keystroke 431 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:18,480 behind every single one of those and and 432 00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,320 I commend you all for putting in the 433 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,000 time. It'll save a lot more time in the 434 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,360 future. So, good job. 435 00:24:25,360 --> 00:24:26,320 >> No questions, 436 00:24:26,320 --> 00:24:28,000 >> Mr. a single thing. 437 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,679 >> No questions. 438 00:24:29,679 --> 00:24:31,600 >> Matthew. Well, I'll just add to what's 439 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:33,919 been said. A whole lot of work went into 440 00:24:33,919 --> 00:24:35,679 this. We take for granted having stop 441 00:24:35,679 --> 00:24:37,520 signs and no parking signs at the right 442 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:39,200 place, but it doesn't happen by 443 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:41,440 accident. Happens by hard work. And what 444 00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,120 you put together here again, we can find 445 00:24:43,120 --> 00:24:45,120 it and get the answer. Uh the police 446 00:24:45,120 --> 00:24:46,880 officers can look at this and find the 447 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:48,720 evidence that they need, find out what's 448 00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:50,559 going on. Thank you very much for all 449 00:24:50,559 --> 00:24:53,760 that you've done there. And I'll ask our 450 00:24:53,760 --> 00:24:56,400 town clerk, have any individuals signed 451 00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,840 up to speak on this item? 452 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:58,640 >> No, sir. 453 00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,960 >> That was signed up to speak. That being 454 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:04,000 said, we I will close the public hearing 455 00:25:04,000 --> 00:25:06,480 and we'll move along to a motion to 456 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:11,520 adopt ordinance number 2026 5397 457 00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:13,679 amending chapter 10 motor vehicles and 458 00:25:13,679 --> 00:25:16,320 traffic. Is there a motion? 459 00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,559 >> Just a clarification. I think the motion 460 00:25:18,559 --> 00:25:20,400 is to hold a public hearing. Is that 461 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,880 correct, Miss Jones? You are holding the 462 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,960 public hearing tonight 463 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:26,799 and I believe he said no one had signed 464 00:25:26,799 --> 00:25:28,159 up. 465 00:25:28,159 --> 00:25:29,440 >> I was just looking at the agenda. It 466 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,279 says opposed to action hold public 467 00:25:31,279 --> 00:25:32,240 hearing. 468 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:34,320 >> Okay. 469 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:35,760 >> Yeah. Let's make sure we're doing the 470 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:36,559 right thing. 471 00:25:36,559 --> 00:25:37,840 >> You are holding the public hearing 472 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,520 tonight and then with the potential of 473 00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:40,400 adopting 474 00:25:40,400 --> 00:25:40,799 >> okay 475 00:25:40,799 --> 00:25:42,480 >> the ordinance for the first time. 476 00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:43,840 >> All right. Thank you. 477 00:25:43,840 --> 00:25:45,919 >> Yes. Thank you. Yeah. We we've we've 478 00:25:45,919 --> 00:25:48,080 closed the public hearing. Mr. Stalin is 479 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:49,039 an observation. Um 480 00:25:49,039 --> 00:25:52,320 >> yes. I I have a question. Um, 481 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:57,120 so I see in here in in section 10134, 482 00:25:57,120 --> 00:25:59,679 um, the regulations around ebikes, and I 483 00:25:59,679 --> 00:26:03,279 know we had conversations before around 484 00:26:03,279 --> 00:26:05,200 enforcement by the police department. 485 00:26:05,200 --> 00:26:07,600 Did we fix any of those issues? Because 486 00:26:07,600 --> 00:26:09,840 I still see that we're classifying class 487 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,320 ones as 20, class 2s as 20, and class 488 00:26:12,320 --> 00:26:18,960 threes as 28. And if I'm not mistaken, um you can't really 489 00:26:18,960 --> 00:26:22,480 delineate a class three from a class two 490 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:24,960 if the police were riding down the 491 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:26,960 street looking at somebody driving a 492 00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:30,559 ebike. Um did we work through that 493 00:26:30,559 --> 00:26:33,200 problem at all? 494 00:26:33,200 --> 00:26:36,799 >> Going to have to defer to uh 495 00:26:36,799 --> 00:26:40,880 or the police department on that issue. 496 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:44,400 So from what I recall, we were 497 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,720 discussing that and the issue came down 498 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,000 to the fact that 499 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:51,919 speed can be determined. They can't 500 00:26:51,919 --> 00:26:56,000 necessarily determine the the class of 501 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,279 bike from their visual perspective, but 502 00:26:59,279 --> 00:27:01,440 they can determine what the speed is. 503 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:02,640 And they do have the ability to 504 00:27:02,640 --> 00:27:04,240 determine what the bike is if they find 505 00:27:04,240 --> 00:27:06,080 that the person is not acting consistent 506 00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:08,480 with the behaviors that we have listed 507 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:12,320 in the um in the ordinance because there 508 00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,159 was also a question about certain 509 00:27:14,159 --> 00:27:17,840 conduct in terms of in their proximity 510 00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,120 to other pedestrians on these areas. And 511 00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:23,279 so that is in there to address the 512 00:27:23,279 --> 00:27:27,039 behavior. there is no surefire way to 513 00:27:27,039 --> 00:27:28,480 make sure that they can determine it, 514 00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,480 but th that is in alignment with the 515 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,400 state. That is how the state defines 516 00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:36,320 them. And so we can't really tweak that 517 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,200 per se further than that. And so the way 518 00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:41,360 that we've addressed that is including 519 00:27:41,360 --> 00:27:43,360 those behaviors. We also discussed the 520 00:27:43,360 --> 00:27:45,760 speed limit posting. And so I did go in 521 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:48,799 and add a a speed limit of 10 miles per 522 00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:51,520 hour on any pedestrian rideways, 523 00:27:51,520 --> 00:27:53,200 greenways, or anything where pedestrians 524 00:27:53,200 --> 00:27:55,279 are generally going to be. And so 525 00:27:55,279 --> 00:27:58,159 regardless of whether or not the police 526 00:27:58,159 --> 00:28:00,240 would be able to, you know, look and 527 00:28:00,240 --> 00:28:02,399 determine immediately, they can assess 528 00:28:02,399 --> 00:28:04,799 that someone has violated our ordinance 529 00:28:04,799 --> 00:28:06,640 via that speed limit. And then per 530 00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:08,399 further information gathering during 531 00:28:08,399 --> 00:28:10,159 their in investigation, they would have 532 00:28:10,159 --> 00:28:12,960 the ability to determine that. So, if 533 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,840 I'm understanding correctly, if you're 534 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,960 on a pedestrian greenway, it will be a 535 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,679 10 mile per hour speed limit regardless. 536 00:28:21,679 --> 00:28:22,799 >> Yes, sir. That's great. 537 00:28:22,799 --> 00:28:23,760 >> Thank you. 538 00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,679 >> Yeah, good, good questions. Important 539 00:28:25,679 --> 00:28:27,760 questions. Just because your uh ebike 540 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:30,159 might go 28 10 miles an hour on a 541 00:28:30,159 --> 00:28:32,320 greenway, please. Right. Thank you. 542 00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:35,120 Thank other questions, Mr. Singleton. 543 00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:36,320 >> Yes, sir. Matthew. 544 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,080 >> Yeah, a lot of work has gone into this, 545 00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:40,960 too. Uh so I think we have closed the 546 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,760 public hearing. Uh and we're looking for 547 00:28:43,760 --> 00:28:46,599 a a motion to adopt ordinance 20265397 548 00:28:46,599 --> 00:28:48,870 [laughter] 549 00:28:48,880 --> 00:28:50,880 amended chapter 10. And then we can have 550 00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,279 some more discussion if we have a a 551 00:28:53,279 --> 00:28:54,559 motion and a second. 552 00:28:54,559 --> 00:28:56,159 >> So moved. 553 00:28:56,159 --> 00:28:56,880 >> Second. 554 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,039 >> Motion by Mr. Vance, second by Mr. 555 00:28:59,039 --> 00:29:00,799 Stalins. Uh is there any other 556 00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:02,559 discussion we want to have about this 557 00:29:02,559 --> 00:29:04,320 particular item? Any other questions, 558 00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,000 comments? 559 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,799 It is it is complicated. Thank you and 560 00:29:08,799 --> 00:29:10,640 your team for working on this. Thanks to 561 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,240 the police department who gave us an 562 00:29:12,240 --> 00:29:14,559 orientation in this recently as well. 563 00:29:14,559 --> 00:29:17,200 And while we may not be able to identify 564 00:29:17,200 --> 00:29:20,080 class one versus class 2 ebike at a 565 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,080 distance, if we're forced to pull over 566 00:29:22,080 --> 00:29:23,919 and look and look at some particular 567 00:29:23,919 --> 00:29:26,159 behavior, it gives us a lens to look 568 00:29:26,159 --> 00:29:28,640 through to see what the state statutes 569 00:29:28,640 --> 00:29:31,039 are. And we will we will learn more and 570 00:29:31,039 --> 00:29:32,960 more about enforcing this as we go 571 00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:35,919 along. And as these vehicles proliferate 572 00:29:35,919 --> 00:29:37,760 around, I have one and I love it, but 573 00:29:37,760 --> 00:29:39,600 I'm only a class two. I'm going to stay 574 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,559 off the greenways, go slow. Thank you. 575 00:29:42,559 --> 00:29:44,559 Uh any other observations or or 576 00:29:44,559 --> 00:29:49,840 questions here? Uh that being said, I'll uh we got the motion and the second 577 00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:53,440 on that already. All in favor of passing 578 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,440 this ordinance, please signify by saying 579 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:56,799 I. 580 00:29:56,799 --> 00:29:59,440 >> Any opposed by nay? Hearing none, the 581 00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,600 motion carries unanimously. Thank you. 582 00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:03,120 for all your hard work. Thank 583 00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,799 you, Mr. Mayor. If I could just take 584 00:30:04,799 --> 00:30:07,760 another moment of council's time. So, 585 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,240 both chapter 4 and chapter 10 will come 586 00:30:10,240 --> 00:30:12,480 back on your consent agenda, similar to 587 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:16,000 how um chapter 11 and chapter 18 were on 588 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:18,720 tonight's consent agenda. Um, I do want 589 00:30:18,720 --> 00:30:21,120 to give uh tremendous thanks to Alex 590 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:24,559 Bone who um not only mapped all of this, 591 00:30:24,559 --> 00:30:28,080 but checked each and every um stop sign 592 00:30:28,080 --> 00:30:31,279 and ordinance in um that were in our 593 00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:34,880 code of of ordinances and found some 594 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,440 places where we may have stop signs that 595 00:30:37,440 --> 00:30:39,840 uh we can't locate the ordinance. Uh, 596 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,159 and as you saw from the map, um, once 597 00:30:42,159 --> 00:30:43,919 you click onto a different traffic 598 00:30:43,919 --> 00:30:45,440 control device, it will give you 599 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,760 information about the ordinance. Uh, and 600 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,600 then we hope with the clerk's office at 601 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:51,120 some point that will actually have all 602 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,760 the ordinances on the web page as well, 603 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:57,039 so people um can find that, you know, 604 00:30:57,039 --> 00:30:59,679 backup documentation as to when council 605 00:30:59,679 --> 00:31:04,399 actually adopted um, these. So, um, 606 00:31:04,399 --> 00:31:06,399 again, like I appreciate all the work 607 00:31:06,399 --> 00:31:09,279 that was done and also with, um, 608 00:31:09,279 --> 00:31:10,880 engineering as well as the planning 609 00:31:10,880 --> 00:31:12,559 department and the police department and 610 00:31:12,559 --> 00:31:14,960 looking at this chapter 10 motor 611 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,440 vehicles and traffic and especially the 612 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,600 work um, assistant town attorney Diamond 613 00:31:19,600 --> 00:31:22,559 Spain did on researching all kinds of 614 00:31:22,559 --> 00:31:25,039 ebike ordinances to find the the best 615 00:31:25,039 --> 00:31:28,480 fit for the town of Garner. Thank you. 616 00:31:28,480 --> 00:31:30,399 >> Thank you very much. And don't go far, 617 00:31:30,399 --> 00:31:31,919 by the way, le you need to go get your 618 00:31:31,919 --> 00:31:33,679 other paper because you're up next, I 619 00:31:33,679 --> 00:31:37,039 think. Uh, and that takes us to item G, 620 00:31:37,039 --> 00:31:39,360 you and old business. The item number 621 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,840 one is delegation of authority. And 622 00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:43,279 again, this is one that our town 623 00:31:43,279 --> 00:31:44,880 attorney and her staff have been working 624 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:47,600 on uh for some time, several months. 625 00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:49,360 It's been through several adjustments. 626 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,519 We've had some good input just trying to 627 00:31:51,519 --> 00:31:53,200 get consolidated like a lot of the 628 00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:55,840 things we've seen earlier today, getting 629 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,240 in line with state statutes, clarifying 630 00:31:58,240 --> 00:32:00,320 things. Uh there will be other 631 00:32:00,320 --> 00:32:02,320 adjustments to meet be made on all of 632 00:32:02,320 --> 00:32:04,640 these things as time goes on, but it 633 00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:07,679 gives us a good starting point. Uh with 634 00:32:07,679 --> 00:32:09,360 that, Miss Jones, I will turn it over to 635 00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:11,679 you to give us a little overview about 636 00:32:11,679 --> 00:32:13,919 delegation of authority. 637 00:32:13,919 --> 00:32:16,320 >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. U so I've been 638 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,440 before you several times on this um 639 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,640 issue. This is basically a best practice 640 00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:27,039 for um any municipality to clearly know 641 00:32:27,039 --> 00:32:29,440 what staff is authorized, what actions 642 00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:35,760 they're authorized to do um on behalf of the town. Um normally the town can 643 00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,159 only operate through the governing body, 644 00:32:38,159 --> 00:32:40,799 which is the town council. Um so it's 645 00:32:40,799 --> 00:32:42,640 not only actions that can be taken, but 646 00:32:42,640 --> 00:32:45,120 different documents that can be signed. 647 00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,919 Um you'll see before you there's three 648 00:32:47,919 --> 00:32:49,679 um 649 00:32:49,679 --> 00:32:52,159 resolutions. One would authorize the 650 00:32:52,159 --> 00:32:54,320 town attorney, a separate one to 651 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,240 authorize the manager and then um other 652 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:03,440 staff uh of town and then a third um to 653 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,080 authorize the mayor. And we do have an 654 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,159 alternative proposed by Councilman 655 00:33:08,159 --> 00:33:12,159 Stallings and then an alternative uh 656 00:33:12,159 --> 00:33:15,600 proposed by Mayor Gupton on on on 657 00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:17,760 particularly the the delegation of 658 00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:21,039 authority to the mayor. 659 00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:22,720 >> So I'm happy to answer any questions 660 00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,000 about any of the specific provisions. 661 00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:27,440 >> Well, thank you. I might want to just 662 00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:29,919 add that after seeing Mr. Stalin's 663 00:33:29,919 --> 00:33:32,000 amendment, I withdrew mine. His does all 664 00:33:32,000 --> 00:33:34,159 the things I wanted to do. So at this 665 00:33:34,159 --> 00:33:36,113 point there's only one amendment 666 00:33:36,113 --> 00:33:37,760 [laughter] in in the batch of three 667 00:33:37,760 --> 00:33:40,159 here. Be glad to have more discussion on 668 00:33:40,159 --> 00:33:42,640 all of these together. We probably for 669 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:44,480 the sake of clarity come back and 670 00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,799 approve one resolution about the town 671 00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:48,640 attorney then the resolution about 672 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:51,600 authorizing town manager and then uh the 673 00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,440 authorized delegation of authority to 674 00:33:53,440 --> 00:33:54,799 the mayor. We'll probably take them one, 675 00:33:54,799 --> 00:33:56,880 two, three to vote on, but we can 676 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:58,880 discuss all of these at the same time 677 00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:01,200 while we're here if that's okay. If 678 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,760 that's okay with you. Uh and and given 679 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,559 that and the number of times that we've 680 00:34:06,559 --> 00:34:08,960 looked at this and studied this uh we'll 681 00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:10,879 still go along and start with Mr. 682 00:34:10,879 --> 00:34:12,960 Matthews if there's any questions or 683 00:34:12,960 --> 00:34:14,240 comments you want to make on the 684 00:34:14,240 --> 00:34:17,440 delegation of authority update. 685 00:34:17,440 --> 00:34:19,919 >> Uh no questions. I think it's it's time 686 00:34:19,919 --> 00:34:21,919 to do this. We've got so much going on 687 00:34:21,919 --> 00:34:24,720 and uh and all of these are qualified 688 00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:27,040 positions and uh we've got strong 689 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,399 accountability and uh and I'm ready to 690 00:34:30,399 --> 00:34:31,440 move forward with it. 691 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:34,079 >> Okay. Mr. Singleton. 692 00:34:34,079 --> 00:34:35,919 >> Yes. A few comments. I've talked to 693 00:34:35,919 --> 00:34:37,440 Attorney General James more than once 694 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:39,359 about some of my concerns and we 695 00:34:39,359 --> 00:34:41,599 continued this from December, but since 696 00:34:41,599 --> 00:34:44,399 then we've had some of our sister towns 697 00:34:44,399 --> 00:34:46,960 and cities in North Carolina who had 698 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,119 some serious issues and some of those 699 00:34:49,119 --> 00:34:50,960 issues can be related directly to 700 00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:52,639 delegating authority particularly in 701 00:34:52,639 --> 00:34:55,839 Kerry when the manager could do anything 702 00:34:55,839 --> 00:34:58,000 was not uh not the way to to manage 703 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:02,960 things. Um so that that's 704 00:35:02,960 --> 00:35:05,760 some concern I had and I'm glad we 705 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:07,920 fleshed through all this. Also, the 706 00:35:07,920 --> 00:35:09,359 number of procurement cars that are 707 00:35:09,359 --> 00:35:11,119 issued in different towns is pretty 708 00:35:11,119 --> 00:35:14,800 amazing to read. Um, but I understand we 709 00:35:14,800 --> 00:35:16,720 have a policy 710 00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:19,760 on that and uh we do have a specific 711 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,640 policy related to that which is good. Uh 712 00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:25,599 so it's taken some time taking some 713 00:35:25,599 --> 00:35:27,920 concern reading information what has 714 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:31,040 happened in other towns and um I 715 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:34,480 appreciate the time and we continued and continued it but we kept 716 00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,520 learning of some of the uh issues with 717 00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:41,440 some other towns who have uh made many 718 00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,359 both all I think all of them have made 719 00:35:43,359 --> 00:35:45,200 specific author authority changes to 720 00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,760 delegating authority now and so uh I 721 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,839 appreciate that that uh we've gone 722 00:35:49,839 --> 00:35:52,480 through the process. Thank you, Mr. 723 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:54,079 Stalin. Comments, questions? 724 00:35:54,079 --> 00:35:56,079 >> Uh, no, no questions. Been a long time 725 00:35:56,079 --> 00:35:57,359 coming. Glad we're here. 726 00:35:57,359 --> 00:35:59,040 >> Thank you, Mr. Dinger. 727 00:35:59,040 --> 00:36:01,119 >> Yeah, just say this is a a good 728 00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:02,880 continuation of the work by the legal 729 00:36:02,880 --> 00:36:05,280 department, town manager to go through a 730 00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:07,839 lot of these processes and um whether 731 00:36:07,839 --> 00:36:10,320 it's contracts and program partners uh 732 00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,400 to codify a lot of practices and clar 733 00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:13,760 make clarifications where there is 734 00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,960 ambiguity. Um like Mr. Singleton said, 735 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:18,960 it's it's timely with other things that 736 00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,000 are going on around us. um to kind of 737 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:23,920 lead the way in how to put this stuff in 738 00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:26,480 writing. Um so glad we're here and it's 739 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,400 been worth the time we've taken to 740 00:36:28,400 --> 00:36:31,839 invest in in this these documents. So 741 00:36:31,839 --> 00:36:33,119 >> thank you Mr. Vance. 742 00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:34,079 >> No questions. 743 00:36:34,079 --> 00:36:36,480 >> Okay. Uh good good discussion there. An 744 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,800 important topic uh has been given a lot 745 00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:40,640 of scrutiny. We appreciate all the 746 00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:42,240 council members, all of your staff 747 00:36:42,240 --> 00:36:44,880 working through this. Uh, if there's no 748 00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:47,200 further questions there, I'm going to 749 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:49,920 ask for a a motion one by one of the 750 00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:52,000 three different parts of this. And I'd 751 00:36:52,000 --> 00:36:56,400 like to start with resolution 2026 2708 752 00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,960 authorizing the town attorney, the 753 00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:00,560 delegation of authority there, the one 754 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:02,400 that we've looked at. Is there a motion 755 00:37:02,400 --> 00:37:04,000 to adopt that one? 756 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:04,560 >> So moved. 757 00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,000 >> Second. 758 00:37:06,000 --> 00:37:08,640 >> Motion by Mr. Stalins and second by Mr. 759 00:37:08,640 --> 00:37:11,359 Vance. Any other discussion on this 760 00:37:11,359 --> 00:37:14,320 particular piece of the resolution? 761 00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:16,480 Hearing none, I'll call for a voice vote 762 00:37:16,480 --> 00:37:19,119 on this. All in favor of adopting that 763 00:37:19,119 --> 00:37:22,240 resolution, please signify by saying I. 764 00:37:22,240 --> 00:37:24,720 >> Any opposed by nay? Hearing none, that 765 00:37:24,720 --> 00:37:27,119 passes unanimously. That brings us to 766 00:37:27,119 --> 00:37:30,640 item number two, resolution 2026 767 00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:32,320 2707, 768 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,160 which is authorizing the town manager 769 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,240 and others under the delegation of 770 00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:38,880 authority documents that we've just 771 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:40,560 reviewed and been presented by Miss 772 00:37:40,560 --> 00:37:43,119 Jones. Uh, is there a motion and a 773 00:37:43,119 --> 00:37:45,040 second to adopt that resolution? 774 00:37:45,040 --> 00:37:46,800 >> So moved. Second. 775 00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:49,200 >> Motion by Mr. Matthews and second by Mr. 776 00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,920 Stalins. If there's no other questions 777 00:37:51,920 --> 00:37:54,960 or comments on that one, uh I will ask 778 00:37:54,960 --> 00:37:57,359 for a voice vote. All those in favor of 779 00:37:57,359 --> 00:37:59,520 adopting this resolution about the town 780 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:02,000 manager delegation of authority, please 781 00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:04,160 signify by saying I. I. 782 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,040 >> Any opposed by nay? Hearing none passes 783 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,599 unanimously. The third one of course is 784 00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:11,359 my favor. It has to do with the 785 00:38:11,359 --> 00:38:13,440 delegation of authority authorizing the 786 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:15,680 mayor to do certain things and to not do 787 00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:19,119 certain things. Uh and that is item 2026 788 00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:21,040 2706 789 00:38:21,040 --> 00:38:22,880 uh regarding the mayor's delegation of 790 00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:24,800 authority. As I mentioned, there had 791 00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:28,320 been uh one one amendment suggested by 792 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,960 Mr. Stalins. I think a number of us have 793 00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:32,880 reviewed it and found that to be 794 00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:34,480 appropriate and moving in the right 795 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,320 direction to clarify things that uh this 796 00:38:38,320 --> 00:38:40,720 mayor or the next mayor or the mayor 10 797 00:38:40,720 --> 00:38:42,960 years from now can and cannot do. And 798 00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:44,720 I'm in full agreement with the amended 799 00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:46,640 version that's there. Are there other 800 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,160 comments or questions? We'll start with 801 00:38:48,160 --> 00:38:49,200 Mr. Vance. 802 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:50,640 >> No comments or questions. 803 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:51,440 >> Mr. Dinger? 804 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:52,160 >> No, sir. 805 00:38:52,160 --> 00:38:52,800 >> Mr. Stallinger. 806 00:38:52,800 --> 00:38:53,760 >> No comments. 807 00:38:53,760 --> 00:38:54,480 >> Mr. Singleton? 808 00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:55,440 >> No, sir. 809 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,040 >> Okay. Well, and can we get a motion in a 810 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:00,000 second on that? 811 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,200 >> Uh, so moved. 812 00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:02,480 >> Can we just 813 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:05,599 >> Sorry to clarify that. Um, 814 00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:09,440 the resolution 2026 2706 delegating 815 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,359 authority to the town mayor is the 816 00:39:11,359 --> 00:39:14,720 version as on page 148 in your packet. 817 00:39:14,720 --> 00:39:18,800 So, so I move that we approve um on page 818 00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:23,040 148 resolution um 2706. 819 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:25,119 >> Yes, it is amended. Thank you for that 820 00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:27,760 clarifi clarification. That is exactly 821 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:31,040 the one we're trying to adopt here. So, 822 00:39:31,040 --> 00:39:33,040 the motion that I think was made by Mr. 823 00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:36,560 Stalins was seconded by Mr. Dinger. 824 00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:38,880 Okay. So, motion made and seconded. Is 825 00:39:38,880 --> 00:39:40,400 there any other discussion or 826 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,720 clarification on this particular 827 00:39:42,720 --> 00:39:45,200 resolution? Uh, hearing none, I'll ask 828 00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,440 for a voice vote. All those in favor of 829 00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:49,760 adopting the resolution, please signify 830 00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:51,599 by saying I. I. 831 00:39:51,599 --> 00:39:54,240 >> Any opposed by nay. Hearing none. It 832 00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:56,560 passes unanimously. Good work all 833 00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,800 around. A lot of thought went into this. 834 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,800 A lot of review. 835 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,480 I think we're on the right track. As Mr. 836 00:40:02,480 --> 00:40:04,480 Singleton pointed out, you can't be 837 00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,480 careful enough with clarifying these 838 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,320 things these days. We don't have to look 839 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,160 far at other towns who failed to do 840 00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:12,960 this. and I just got deeper and deeper 841 00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:15,520 uh in in the hole. So, we're we're glad 842 00:40:15,520 --> 00:40:17,520 for all the work that's been done. Thank 843 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:18,480 you very much. 844 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:20,960 >> And going forward, um similar to how we 845 00:40:20,960 --> 00:40:22,560 started at your organizational meeting 846 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,280 in December, um anytime there's a change 847 00:40:25,280 --> 00:40:27,680 in council, we would review the 848 00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:29,680 delegation of authority, your meeting 849 00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:31,520 rules of procedure, and your code of 850 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,160 conduct and ethics so that it reflects 851 00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,800 the body, the governing body that's in 852 00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:39,520 that's been elected at that time. 853 00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:41,839 >> Thank you. Thank you very much. And that 854 00:40:41,839 --> 00:40:43,920 brings us to item number two, 855 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:46,560 nominations committee recommendations. 856 00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:49,040 And our sponsors, Miss uh Rebecca 857 00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,920 Murray, our deputy town clerk. Are you 858 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,920 going to make a little presentation or 859 00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:54,480 you want to 860 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:55,920 >> She's not going to make a presentation 861 00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,240 to this evening. The committee will do 862 00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:01,200 it. uh to council and to the uh to the 863 00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:02,800 public. I'd like to say that we have 864 00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,359 been meeting over extended period of 865 00:41:05,359 --> 00:41:09,200 time to interview a group a great group 866 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,520 of individuals. Uh we've now coming 867 00:41:11,520 --> 00:41:13,520 before you with recommendations for 868 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:15,680 consideration of approval for the 869 00:41:15,680 --> 00:41:17,599 following individuals for the housing 870 00:41:17,599 --> 00:41:19,920 advisory committee. Uh with the first 871 00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:24,160 term being from September, 1226 through 872 00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,800 63027, 873 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,040 Mr. to Jeff Swain and Miss Katie 874 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:34,079 Cardinis. Um for next for the term of 875 00:41:34,079 --> 00:41:39,520 September 1, 2026 to June 30th, 2028, 876 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:43,200 Anita Powell and Brandy Bel Meltchshire 877 00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:46,800 from the term of September 1, 2026 to 878 00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,280 June 30th, 2029. 879 00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:51,280 Following individuals, Miss Barbara 880 00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:54,640 Barrett, Miss Jasmine Johnson, and Miss 881 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,280 Gwen Buren. Those are the 882 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,520 recommendations to fulfill the positions 883 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:03,520 on the advisory committee going forward. 884 00:42:03,520 --> 00:42:05,440 >> Good work. Thank you for that report. Uh 885 00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:07,119 we have the co-chair of the nominating 886 00:42:07,119 --> 00:42:08,880 committee here as well. Mr. Dillinger, 887 00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:10,960 any observations, comments? 888 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,920 >> Uh just want to thank uh clerk's office 889 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:15,440 for helping us with the process 890 00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:20,079 throughout um with the interviews and at selection part of the process. O 891 00:42:20,079 --> 00:42:23,200 to thank Mari How and Lewis Herd who 892 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:25,839 participated as sort of observers in the 893 00:42:25,839 --> 00:42:28,000 process too since they'll be the primary 894 00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:29,599 interface for that committee. So I want 895 00:42:29,599 --> 00:42:32,000 to thank them and also thank uh all of 896 00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,440 our applicants. We had a lot of really 897 00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:35,440 good applicants. It was a very uh 898 00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:38,319 difficult decision uh in different ways 899 00:42:38,319 --> 00:42:40,640 trying to get the right balance of of 900 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,160 skill sets but we appreciate everyone 901 00:42:42,160 --> 00:42:44,560 who applied and hope they will stay in 902 00:42:44,560 --> 00:42:46,880 contact with us and and participate in 903 00:42:46,880 --> 00:42:48,960 this journey. So and thank you to Mr. 904 00:42:48,960 --> 00:42:51,920 advance for being my partner in all this 905 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:52,240 for 906 00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:53,680 >> Yes, sir. 907 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:55,280 >> A seven years now. 908 00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:56,880 >> A while. [laughter] 909 00:42:56,880 --> 00:42:58,000 >> Yes, that's all. 910 00:42:58,000 --> 00:43:00,160 >> Well, there there was a lot of work and 911 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,079 as I looked over the resumes and the 912 00:43:02,079 --> 00:43:03,760 background of the people that you 913 00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:06,800 selected. Wow. What an impressive bunch. 914 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,000 We really have a great great citizenry 915 00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,640 here willing to step up and had relevant 916 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:14,400 background and you guys picked the best 917 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,800 of the best. I'm very satisfied with the 918 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,640 work you've done. Other obser 919 00:43:18,640 --> 00:43:20,960 observations or questions? 920 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,000 >> No comment. 921 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,000 >> Sorry. Yeah. And just one more comment 922 00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:27,040 on the uh the staggering of the terms 923 00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:29,680 and our rationale for that. So is it a 924 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,040 new committee? We wanted to make sure 925 00:43:31,040 --> 00:43:33,200 that we were rotating folks on and off. 926 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:35,119 The folks will be eligible to be 927 00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:38,319 reappointed. Um Jeff Swain and Katie 928 00:43:38,319 --> 00:43:40,000 Cardennis, they ended up getting sort of 929 00:43:40,000 --> 00:43:42,319 a short straw on the front end um 930 00:43:42,319 --> 00:43:43,760 because they've been a part of our 931 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,920 previous task force. Jeff was a part of 932 00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:47,920 two of our housing task force and Katie 933 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,800 as one. So we thought those folks with 934 00:43:50,800 --> 00:43:52,240 the experience would kind of be the 935 00:43:52,240 --> 00:43:56,400 first first cut um in the I say short 936 00:43:56,400 --> 00:43:58,560 straw of the short term. So the rest of 937 00:43:58,560 --> 00:44:00,480 them were assigned randomly by the 938 00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,480 clerk's office. So just want to give 939 00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:04,319 people insight into the process on the 940 00:44:04,319 --> 00:44:06,880 term uh setup that we came up with. 941 00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,040 >> Are they eligible for reappoint at the 942 00:44:09,040 --> 00:44:09,680 end of their term? 943 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:10,720 >> Yes, sir. 944 00:44:10,720 --> 00:44:12,480 >> Good. So they'll make it up at the long 945 00:44:12,480 --> 00:44:15,280 run, right? Good. Good. Thank you. Uh, 946 00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:17,520 other observations, questions, Mr. 947 00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:18,319 Singleton. 948 00:44:18,319 --> 00:44:19,040 >> Yes, sir. 949 00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:20,640 >> Well, I also give a shout out to our 950 00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:23,040 deputy town clerk, Rebecca Murray, uh, 951 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:25,040 who who helped us figure out the math on 952 00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,880 this. There was a lot of math involved 953 00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:28,880 in making sure that this was done 954 00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,800 regularly and not everybody leaving at 955 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:32,960 once. So, a lot of teamwork went into 956 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:35,520 this. So, you you've heard the proposed 957 00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:38,400 action is to recommend members to the 958 00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:41,359 housing advisory committee. Uh, and I'll 959 00:44:41,359 --> 00:44:43,920 ask council members for a motion uh to 960 00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:47,920 do so. Is there a motion? 961 00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:48,960 >> So move. 962 00:44:48,960 --> 00:44:50,319 >> Second. 963 00:44:50,319 --> 00:44:52,480 >> Motion by Mr. Dinger. Second by Mr. 964 00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:54,400 Vance. Uh, is there any further 965 00:44:54,400 --> 00:44:57,119 discussion or comments from councel? 966 00:44:57,119 --> 00:44:58,960 >> Just thanks for for the work y'all put 967 00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:02,069 in. 968 00:45:02,079 --> 00:45:04,880 » Okay. Uh, those that that being said, 969 00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:07,119 I'll ask for a voice vote on this one. 970 00:45:07,119 --> 00:45:10,640 All those in favor of ex of passing of 971 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,960 these recommendations, please signify by 972 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:14,160 saying I. 973 00:45:14,160 --> 00:45:14,800 >> I. 974 00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,920 >> Any opposed by nay? Hearing none. The 975 00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:21,280 unanimous decision accept these people 976 00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,520 and glad to have them. Glad to have them 977 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:25,359 working on our citizens advisory 978 00:45:25,359 --> 00:45:27,920 council. Great work. Great work. The two 979 00:45:27,920 --> 00:45:30,960 co-chairs as well. Uh brings us to item 980 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,920 H, updates to council. Uh we have 981 00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:37,040 committee reports and we'll recognize uh 982 00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:39,280 council members to make a report about 983 00:45:39,280 --> 00:45:41,440 any committee they might be on. And 984 00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:43,920 we'll start with Mr. Matthews down here. 985 00:45:43,920 --> 00:45:45,200 >> Nothing at this time. 986 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:46,319 >> Mr. Singleton, 987 00:45:46,319 --> 00:45:47,680 >> no committee meetings. 988 00:45:47,680 --> 00:45:48,400 >> Mr. Stalin, 989 00:45:48,400 --> 00:45:49,920 >> no report. 990 00:45:49,920 --> 00:45:51,839 >> Mr. Mr. Dinger, 991 00:45:51,839 --> 00:45:52,560 >> no report. 992 00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:53,440 >> Mr. Vance, 993 00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:54,000 >> no report. 994 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:55,680 >> Well, I'll add I have no report from the 995 00:45:55,680 --> 00:45:58,000 art committee either then. Stuff's been 996 00:45:58,000 --> 00:45:59,599 going on, but we'll talk about it next 997 00:45:59,599 --> 00:46:01,839 time. And that brings us to manager 998 00:46:01,839 --> 00:46:03,760 reports. So, I bet she has some news for 999 00:46:03,760 --> 00:46:04,480 us. 1000 00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:06,160 >> Uh, no reports this evening. 1001 00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:08,720 >> Oh, you're kidding me. Come on. Come on. 1002 00:46:08,720 --> 00:46:13,280 God. Uh, attorney reports. Um just to 1003 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,319 report out council met in a special 1004 00:46:16,319 --> 00:46:18,720 meeting earlier uh this afternoon at 4 1005 00:46:18,720 --> 00:46:20,720 pm and immediately went into a close 1006 00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:26,240 session um for under 143-318 1007 00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:28,480 sorry 311 1008 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:30,560 318-11 1009 00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,640 A1 and A3 um no uh votes were taken no 1010 00:46:34,640 --> 00:46:36,560 official action were take was taken 1011 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:38,400 during that meeting today. 1012 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:39,920 >> Thank you. We may come back to talk 1013 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:41,680 about that again in just a moment in 1014 00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:43,920 another regard. Uh but that takes us to 1015 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:46,000 council reports on things other than 1016 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:48,480 committee report. I'll start with Mr. 1017 00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:51,359 Vance. Any any other reports or 1018 00:46:51,359 --> 00:46:53,599 items you want to bring up? I just want 1019 00:46:53,599 --> 00:46:55,200 to say that the barber shop rap session 1020 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:57,280 that was held on this past Saturday at 1021 00:46:57,280 --> 00:47:00,240 Heavily Cuts was a well attended and it 1022 00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:02,880 was a good event for just to mingle and 1023 00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,040 talk with the citizens there and and 1024 00:47:05,040 --> 00:47:07,839 just to hear them and just to let them 1025 00:47:07,839 --> 00:47:09,599 know that we're in the community and we 1026 00:47:09,599 --> 00:47:10,640 want to know about them and let them 1027 00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:12,560 know that we're here to uh to assist 1028 00:47:12,560 --> 00:47:15,920 them and that we work for them. 1029 00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:17,440 >> Mr. Dinger, 1030 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,200 >> uh going to hold my report to next 1031 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,599 meeting, but no report tonight. give us 1032 00:47:21,599 --> 00:47:23,599 something to look forward to. Mr. 1033 00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:26,560 Talent, no report. Mr. Singleton, 1034 00:47:26,560 --> 00:47:28,880 >> report. I do have a question for staff. 1035 00:47:28,880 --> 00:47:31,280 Uh I've turned in the la the last week a 1036 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:33,839 couple of the uh Goali stops where the 1037 00:47:33,839 --> 00:47:35,680 trash cans are overflowing and and 1038 00:47:35,680 --> 00:47:37,200 public works does a good job of cleaning 1039 00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:38,720 it up. 1040 00:47:38,720 --> 00:47:42,720 Is there a way to get a bigger can or 1041 00:47:42,720 --> 00:47:45,440 another can specifically the one on 1042 00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:47,599 Vandor in front of the bank and then the 1043 00:47:47,599 --> 00:47:50,319 one beside the uh entrance to the 1044 00:47:50,319 --> 00:47:52,640 G-pack? The one the G-pack. I know we 1045 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,160 own the property behind it. So, I 1046 00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:59,040 thought that might be simple to put an extra can there if possible. But I'm 1047 00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:01,359 just, you know, I go by that one gets a 1048 00:48:01,359 --> 00:48:02,800 lot of traffic from the store, people 1049 00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,359 walking and they use that trash can. Um 1050 00:48:05,359 --> 00:48:08,240 the one up here they're coming from the 1051 00:48:08,240 --> 00:48:09,760 shopping center and they use that and 1052 00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:12,000 the trash can is overflowing. So I'm 1053 00:48:12,000 --> 00:48:13,040 just wondering is there a way to get 1054 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,040 another can bigger can again public 1055 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:18,400 works responds well but u I'm just 1056 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:20,560 curious that's two I know they get full 1057 00:48:20,560 --> 00:48:22,079 on a regular basis because of where 1058 00:48:22,079 --> 00:48:24,079 they're located and whether they're bus 1059 00:48:24,079 --> 00:48:25,440 people who ride the bus or not people 1060 00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:26,800 are using the trash can. 1061 00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:28,319 >> Yes sir. So we'll follow up on that. I 1062 00:48:28,319 --> 00:48:30,559 know there were plans uh to enhance the 1063 00:48:30,559 --> 00:48:33,040 bus stop on Bora and typically when 1064 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:34,559 those enhancements happen it comes with 1065 00:48:34,559 --> 00:48:37,119 a larger can. Um so we'll check on the 1066 00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:39,680 status of doing that and then also we'll 1067 00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,280 talk internally about whether or not 1068 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:42,960 there's any option for adding our own 1069 00:48:42,960 --> 00:48:45,040 can since we own the property near the 1070 00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:47,040 other stop um in addition to the one 1071 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:48,400 that's with the bus stop. 1072 00:48:48,400 --> 00:48:50,240 >> Okay. And the one in Vandor there 1073 00:48:50,240 --> 00:48:51,520 talking about the enhancement with the 1074 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,599 enclosed assment. You're not talking 1075 00:48:53,599 --> 00:48:55,200 about that. That would be a shelter and 1076 00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:56,880 with the shelter comes the larger can 1077 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,319 because there's a place to mount it to. 1078 00:48:58,319 --> 00:48:59,520 >> So, so they're working on that. 1079 00:48:59,520 --> 00:49:01,040 >> Yes, sir. And I'll get a status update 1080 00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:01,440 for that. 1081 00:49:01,440 --> 00:49:02,880 >> All right. All right. Thank you. 1082 00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:03,520 >> That's all. 1083 00:49:03,520 --> 00:49:05,200 >> And thank you, Mr. Singleton, for 1084 00:49:05,200 --> 00:49:06,480 bringing it up. It just points out 1085 00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:09,200 again, it takes many sets of eyes to see 1086 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:11,040 the things that we need to do, things 1087 00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:13,280 that many of us drive by every single 1088 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:14,800 day, but we're looking another 1089 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:16,160 direction, thinking about something 1090 00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:18,319 else. Uh, thank all of you, particularly 1091 00:49:18,319 --> 00:49:20,400 Mr. Singleton, who continue to do this. 1092 00:49:20,400 --> 00:49:22,559 Every citizen who points out a way we 1093 00:49:22,559 --> 00:49:24,720 can improve is helping us to improve. 1094 00:49:24,720 --> 00:49:26,720 And let me put in that plug for the 1095 00:49:26,720 --> 00:49:29,119 Garner Info app. Again, if you see an 1096 00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:31,280 issue like this or grass growing or junk 1097 00:49:31,280 --> 00:49:34,640 cars or or dead animals in the roadway, 1098 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,520 Garner Info gets good response. Unless 1099 00:49:37,520 --> 00:49:38,720 you're on the council, then you just 1100 00:49:38,720 --> 00:49:40,559 blurt it out and have take care of. But 1101 00:49:40,559 --> 00:49:42,960 either way, it's good. So, we it takes 1102 00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:44,960 everybody. It takes everybody to do 1103 00:49:44,960 --> 00:49:47,119 this. Thanks for your efforts. That 1104 00:49:47,119 --> 00:49:50,000 concludes the council reports I think. 1105 00:49:50,000 --> 00:49:51,359 I'm sorry. Would you 1106 00:49:51,359 --> 00:49:52,000 >> Matthew? 1107 00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:52,960 >> I don't have anything. 1108 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:55,040 >> I thought I saw him give me to sign, but 1109 00:49:55,040 --> 00:49:57,200 I just always rather double check than 1110 00:49:57,200 --> 00:50:00,000 to miss somebody. Thank you. Every every 1111 00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:03,520 eye counts. Every year counts. Okay. So, 1112 00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:05,839 that that concludes the items on our 1113 00:50:05,839 --> 00:50:08,720 agenda so far this evening. I think 1114 00:50:08,720 --> 00:50:10,640 based on our closed session earlier 1115 00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,040 today, we may need to have another close 1116 00:50:13,040 --> 00:50:15,440 session uh this evening to talk about 1117 00:50:15,440 --> 00:50:17,280 some of the things we saw there. Was 1118 00:50:17,280 --> 00:50:18,880 that kind of what we had in mind having 1119 00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:21,520 another close session this evening? Uh 1120 00:50:21,520 --> 00:50:23,280 and I'll ask our town attorney to give 1121 00:50:23,280 --> 00:50:25,920 us the proper citation to make a motion 1122 00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:28,319 to move to a close session. That would 1123 00:50:28,319 --> 00:50:30,240 be pursuant to North Carolina General 1124 00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:35,349 Statutes section 143-318.11A3 1125 00:50:35,359 --> 00:50:36,880 to consult with the town attorney 1126 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:38,800 regarding litigation or settlement of a 1127 00:50:38,800 --> 00:50:40,160 claim. 1128 00:50:40,160 --> 00:50:41,119 >> So moved. 1129 00:50:41,119 --> 00:50:41,599 >> Second. 1130 00:50:41,599 --> 00:50:43,680 >> There's a motion from Mr. Singleton and 1131 00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:46,960 a second for Mr. Stalins. Uh if there's 1132 00:50:46,960 --> 00:50:48,640 no other further discussion, I'll ask 1133 00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:50,720 for a voice vote to move to a close 1134 00:50:50,720 --> 00:50:53,280 session. All in favor, please signify by 1135 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:54,559 saying I. 1136 00:50:54,559 --> 00:50:57,440 >> Any opposed by nay? Hearing none, we'll 1137 00:50:57,440 --> 00:51:00,559 move to a close session. See you soon. 1138 00:51:00,559 --> 01:52:15,830 Stick around. Take a break. Thank you. 1139 01:52:15,840 --> 01:52:18,480 And we return to an open session here 1140 01:52:18,480 --> 01:52:20,320 from our close session. I'm going to ask 1141 01:52:20,320 --> 01:52:22,080 our town attorney, Miss Jones, to give 1142 01:52:22,080 --> 01:52:26,080 us a recap of what we did. 1143 01:52:26,080 --> 01:52:28,639 >> Thank you, Mr. Mayor. uh council gave 1144 01:52:28,639 --> 01:52:30,560 direction to the town attorney and town 1145 01:52:30,560 --> 01:52:32,320 staff on terms to a settlement 1146 01:52:32,320 --> 01:52:35,199 agreement. Um 1147 01:52:35,199 --> 01:52:38,480 and we will come back if a settlement 1148 01:52:38,480 --> 01:52:41,119 agreement is entered into to report that 1149 01:52:41,119 --> 01:52:42,960 out in open session. 1150 01:52:42,960 --> 01:52:45,520 >> Okay. Thank you. Uh are there any other 1151 01:52:45,520 --> 01:52:47,440 business items we need to address or 1152 01:52:47,440 --> 01:52:50,320 anything else on the agenda? Uh hearing 1153 01:52:50,320 --> 01:52:53,360 none, I will accept a motion to adjurnn. 1154 01:52:53,360 --> 01:52:54,000 >> So moved. 1155 01:52:54,000 --> 01:52:54,800 >> Second. 1156 01:52:54,800 --> 01:52:57,199 >> Motion by Mr. Matthew, second by Mr. 1157 01:52:57,199 --> 01:53:00,000 Stalins to adjourn. All in favor, please 1158 01:53:00,000 --> 01:53:01,679 signify by saying I. 1159 01:53:01,679 --> 01:53:02,239 >> I. 1160 01:53:02,239 --> 01:53:04,719 >> Any opposed by nay? Hearing none. 1161 01:53:04,719 --> 01:53:24,629 Meeting adjourned. 1162 01:53:24,639 --> 01:53:27,639 Everybody.