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and call the meeting to order um so
please go ahead and join me to say the

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Pledge of

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Allegiance all right I pledge allegiance
to the flag of the United States of

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America and to the Republic for which it
stands one nation under God indivisible

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with liberty and justice for all and I'd
like to welcome Chris gets with the

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First Christian Church to say the
invocation

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please my pleasure will you bow with
me Heavenly Father we come before you

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and thank you for the privilege and the
blessing that it is that we've got a

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city that cares and a team of people
that also care and so we just ask Lord

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your wisdom and your guidance as they
continue on uh to deal with the Affairs

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of our town we're grateful for them and
I just pray Lord your hand of blessing

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as they make decisions for us it's in
your holy name we pray amen amen thank

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you Chris you thank you CHR than
guys okay approval of the minutes for

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November 24th City Commission meeting
commissioner Cole did you have any

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questions I do not have any questions
commissioner

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GW yeah under uh regular business they
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two uh in the second paragraph under
that they got two of them morphed

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together so the the supplement agreement
number three from

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PEC
uh I think uh

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so I
think I think Bridget made the

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motion Jody just need to clean up the
verbage and it approved two to one and

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then on the on the motion on the annual
Christmas bonus the way I remembered it

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don't really matter but I think I motion
I think bridg seconded it I think it was

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a three to0 three to zero vote yeah yep
I'll fix it

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correct okay and that's that's all that
I saw

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okay great then I will go ahead and make
a motion to approve the November 24th

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2020 minutes after amended do I hear a
second I'll second I it's been moved and

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seconded all in favor say I
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I motion passes recognition of employee
of the month for November was Desiree

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Donovan thank you so much Desiree for
all the work that you have done I know

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that at least I'm pretty sure you've
been handling uh coordinating the zoom

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meetings for us and giving us all of our
meeting materials always appreciated I

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always have enjoyed talking to you very
pleasant and upbeat and positive and you

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even gave up your office space which was
very considerate to help with the when

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the city was
reorganizing so we just thank you so

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much for always being a team player and
being there for the

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City Y

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citizens to be

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heard I don't know if there's anyone on
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call I don't see anyone so we'll go
ahead and move on to governing body

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comments student rep Nathan Gwyn do you
have anything that you'd like to say no

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I don't have anything thank

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you uh commissioner
Gwyn uh I just first off I'd just like

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to thank Mike Burns of the Auburn fmer
for the donating a courtesy car to the

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airport and I out there this evening and
very nice car huge upgrade for them and

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uh airport project looks like it is
proceeding they run into a hitch one

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crew a couple of the crew members got Co
so they had to send them home and

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brought in another crew so they're
hoping to they're hoping to finish

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everything up Thursday so uh it's kind
of progressive but they ran into a hitch

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today on
that and that's uh that's all that I

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got okay uh commissioner Cole yes I
would like to thank the chamber for

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organizing the Santa Cruz I'm really
excited for that to take place um on

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December 19th uh 6 to 8 o'clock
right I think that's right and I also

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want to thank the friends of the Prairie
Spirit Trail for decorating the Harris

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Park they always do such a nice job and
it's just um we appreciate them so

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that's all I

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have um Chris the only thing I was kind
of curious about was The Southern Star

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comments I know that that period was
really limited and I was kind of

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wondering if the city knew if anyone had
submitted anything to

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that as far as I'm aware nobody
submitted any comments or had any

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concerns regarding the uh regarding the
proposed leave-in Place project okay all

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right thank you and I just wanted to
thank Auburn Pharmacy too for the

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donation of that car I noticed that this
past weekend I believe there were people

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here who were able to utilize it so that
was really exciting and so wonderful to

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see that we have an little bit of an
updated model

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there all right moving on to regular
business item a consideration of

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appointment of Bob Mills and
reappointment of Beth merman to the

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Planning Commission and board of zoning
Appeals

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right commissioner Cole did you have any
questions I don't have any questions but

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I'm excited to see all the people that
are interested in all the the openings

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that we have on this committee so no
questions commissioner Gwen I I didn't

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have any questions either okay I did not
either so I will go ahead and make a

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motion to approve the appointment of Bob
Mills and Beth merman to the Planning

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Commission and board of zoning appeals
do I hear a second I'll

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second okay it's been moved and seconded
all in favor say I

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I all right motion passes consideration

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of appointment of Helen Norman and
reappointment of Susan Karen to the

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tourism Advisory Board commissioner
Cole I don't have any questions um I

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would move to approve the appointment of
Helen Norman and the reappointment of

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Susan Karen to the tourism Advisory
Board okay I'll second it's been moved

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and seconded all in favor say
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I okay motion passes consideration of
reappointment of janon Gordon and Roy

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Salazar to the Parks and Recreation
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Board all right uh commissioner
Cole no I would move to approve the

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reappointment of Janan Gordon and Roy
Salazar to the Parks and Recreation

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Advisory

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Board I have
second okay it's been moved in second

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did all in favor say
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I all right um consideration of
reappoint oh sorry motion

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passes H consideration of reappointment
of Linda huon Mueller and Sandra mofet

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to the library

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board I will go ahead and make a motion
to approve um the reappointment of both

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Miss huton Mueller and Sandra mofet the
library board do I hear a second I'll

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second okay it's been moved in seconded
all in paper say I

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I okay motion
passes and then consideration of

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reappointment of Elizabeth Abraham to
the Housing Authority

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board

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um I'll go ahead and make a motion to
approve the appointment of um Elizabeth

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Abraham to the Housing Authority board
do I hear a second I'll second

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okay it's been moved and seconded all in
favor say I

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I okay M motion
passes approval of CBG CV funds in the

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amount of
$1,341

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63 for CD shy
agency this is probably pretty standard

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then Chris to go along with all the
other cdbg dollars

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correct okay are there any questions
that the other commissioners

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have I didn't have any okay I don't have
any questions all right then we'll go

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ahead and make a motion to approve the
CBG CB funds in the amount of

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$2,341 63 for CD Shelty agency do I hear
a second I'll

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second I it's been moved and seconded
all in favor say I I I

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I okay motion
passes item G uh consideration of police

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Police Department remodel I think there
might be questions here so we'll slow

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down okay Chris um Chief King is on the
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he I know he was getting on I don't know
if he's here quite yet or not unless

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he's Mom's computer I'm not seeing him
so um now I noticed I noticed that he

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had sent a video kind of explaining
everything that he was looking at having

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remodeled and that has not changed
correct correct okay unless something's

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changed in the last hour and a half so I
don't believe so surpris yeah okay

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that's what I was gonna ask when did he
send the video I didn't see it I haven't

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seen it but i' been driving home as so
so um if you hold on a second I can tell

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you I'm not exactly sure what this will
do to my video

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but I re I received the video from a
link called evidence.com

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on December 4th so there was an email
first from Kurt King and it it went to

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all of our Garnet Kansas City email
addresses so if you haven't checked that

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one then that would be where you would
have received it and right after

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that was the one
who what I received an email from him

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that said he was going to send one but I
I mean I earlier today and I still

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hadn't received it so I don't know if
there's something wrong with that email

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address or maybe it just didn't come
through right but Fe Sate on the 4th

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today's the eth it should you know it's
had plenty of time to get there so okay

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but there isn't there aren't any changes
compared to

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the written information that he gave us
at the previous I I don't believe so and

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Kurt has joined the conversation now so
I can let him address some of this but

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uh with regard to the email issues I can
if you would like uh I can access uh I'd

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have to change your passwords that I can
try to get into it and see if there's uh

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any issues and make sure that it's
functioning properly um but if you would

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like to try to do that I can try to see
if there's any issues there that may be

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preventing you from receiving
those and then I could reset the

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password and uh resent you resend it to
you so you can update your password

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after after we get it whatever issues
there may be

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addressed okay yeah I wouldn't mind
finding out maybe why it didn't come

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through but I did have an opportunity to
read through the material he gave us at

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the last SC so

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yeah so C uh Chief King there was uh a
question about the video only mayor bre

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kaen hus uh has had a chance to review
the video I believe commissioner Gwen

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you didn't get a chance to either I
don't I don't use my city email so I

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didn't I didn't see
it okay um so I know that commissioner

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Cole indicated Chief you came came in
just a little bit late uh commissioner

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Cole indicated she for some reason
hasn't received it either on on her City

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email address so we'll have to look into
to why that occurred um and try to make

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sure that we can get that out to you but
you might check to see if it wasn't

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maybe went to spam CU it's it would have
been a link from evidence.com like so

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once it got uploaded from our body cams
it shares it's a secure portal so it

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sends a link and it'll self I said it I
think for 10 days then it self deletes

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after that but they should have got a
link to download from evidence.com and

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there's times that that will go to spam
so I did receive it in the main inbox

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there
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email so it at least didn't go to to my
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guess did the and I guess the other
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I mean I just sketched something up I
didn't know the dimensions I just took

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some some guesses but I sketched up some
sort of a blueprint have there is there

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has there been a plan made or are we
still where we was at last time we just

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want to build something and then tear it
down and and redo it later

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well I guess my question to the
commission is is what is considered

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later well it would be my hopes that uh
we can proceed if if we can I don't have

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trouble expending this amount of money
on the project if it's a section of the

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building and that part's done and then
and then we carry the project on as we

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get monies but uh to to do it and then
just turn around and tear it out seems

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like a waste of money

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and I guess the only thing that I was
thinking if we continue to put

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into the capital Improvement line item

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each year based on what the Architects
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million it's going to be like 38 years
before we get to the half a million Mark

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to remodel it

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completely I'm thinking a half a million
is going to be kind of a Taj M Hall it

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might even make the county county barn
look like a coat closet I I don't know

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how you could hardly spend a half
million dollars in that

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space I I'm just going off what the
Architects told me I I I thought that

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was an I I figured it'd be closer to a
quarter of a million personally

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but the problem is is that it has steps
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like the side entrance is going to take
the the grade would take you almost

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halfway across the

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building coming in from the parking lot
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two there's

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two and then the same thing for the step
down to get over to the City Hall

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side the Ada issues are
significant um that Chief King is

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referencing and if we were to make any
kind of uh fullscale remodel we would be

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required to make it ADA Compliant to my

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understanding so this tonight's proposal
is exactly the same as last time right

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I believe that is the case yes Chief
King was hoping that with an additional

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couple weeks to review uh that the
commission might be might have enough

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time to uh review and consider the
information and then I think that the

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issue at the last time was that you only
had a couple hours toh to review that

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information so that was obviously
challenging to

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do
now goad information that he okay on the

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remodel information that he gave us at
the previous meeting that I read you

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that's not going to be enough that it
would lock us into any ADA compliance

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right I I don't believe so uh City
attorney sander would you have any

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concerns with regard to um will it
amount to a

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minor
uh Mr solander you're muted okay how

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about that there better there we go
okay yeah I got it uh unmuted I don't uh

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have any drawings or anything but based
on my conversations with Chief King uh I

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think the
remodeling that's proposed for right now

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is slight enough that it probably would
not trigger 8 because it doesn't address

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the entry and so forth and areas that
are obviously non-compliant won't be

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affected by it so it's always been my
understanding that

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unless uh pretty much started from
scratch if you left areas that weren't

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as long as what you put back is ADA
Compliant you should be all

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right okay thank you

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so Chris this would come um out of
already budgeted Capital Improvement

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funds right yes

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ma'am what was that dollar amount again
I know it was on the

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previous but I didn't see it on the
front here it might be all the bid total

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up to 17,6

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7396 okay
and if the commission would feel better

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I guess some things if you we could
scale back on some things the biggest

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thing is is I have a
uh an interview room upgrade

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coming uh the uh software is going to
get purchased here in the next week or

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so uh and so we have to insulate one
room to so that we can adequately use

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our interview room and then that South
room I would request even if we don't do

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some of the others I would still request
like the flooring and things would help

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improve it just the looks
dramatically and that the one wall in

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the South room I would assume even if we
do a remodel will stay

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there uh and uh a complete remodel I'd
assume that would remain probably the

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same and then the flooring if if a if a
somehow we come up with money to do a

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more extensive remodel then we could
reuse the flooring it's it's going to be

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a vinyl plank flooring which will come
up easily and it can just lay over the

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existing flooring that we

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have mayor Breck heisen has I don't have
any other questions and U I would be

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fine if you would want to make a motion
okay uh yeah I just I was just going to

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make mention of the fact that it's
coming from the police department's

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Capital Improvement fund I I am okay
with the idea of using it at the

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discretion and approval of the
um of the city manager as well with the

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police department you know and
identifying that need and I mean chief

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King you know the needs of the
department and if that is where you find

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that you know Capital Improvements are
best made then I uh trust that and I did

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appreciate being able to watch the video
to see that as well so I am I'm fine

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with that expenditure if that is how you
want to proceed especially in light of

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the odds of there being a significant
remodel in the near future is unlikely

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and it does need a lot of work done to
that area so I

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am I'm okay with that as well H now
commissioner going are there any other

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questions you had before any motion is
made

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no I like I say I don't have I don't
have a problem with expenditure and they

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definitely need some upgrades to that
area but uh

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I well I just for the lack of planning
uh to be able to use this remodeled area

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into the future I just can't vote for it
with

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uh as it
stands

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okay I will go ahead and make a motion
then to approve the police Department

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remodel in the amount of and correct me
if I'm wrong $ 17,6

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7396 do I hear a second I'll
second moved and seconded all in favor

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say I I
I all again or all opposed same sign

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I
okay motion passes 2 to

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one all right consideration claim for
damages from commissioner

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Gwyn I've
spent well I really don't know how much

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time I've spent on it I've spent more on
it than what I anticipated I would have

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to I'd say I'm probably 75 to 80%
through but I'd like the opportunity to

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complete it I should be able to give you
a report in advance of the next meeting

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so that you would have it prior to uh
that time okay that's fine with me fair

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enough okay then we will go ahead and
table that for the next meeting and move

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on to discussion regarding an ordinance
regulating dirt bike tracks or noise

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levels
uh Chris do you mind going in explaining

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this a little bit I mean do you even
have a I didn't see that there was an

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example ordinance in here or if anything
in our noise ordinances would pertain to

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addressing any of this so if you don't
mind kind of elaborating on the issue

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absolutely uh so the currently the city
does not have uh really a a formal noise

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ordinance um like a lot of communities
do um we basically have disturbing the

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piece um but there's not like a you know
deible level type ordinance that a lot

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of communities have um The Challenge has
been that we had a uh a resident who has

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uh requested that an ordinance be
considered uh

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regarding dirt bike tracks in the city
limits because uh right across from his

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house is one of his neighbors has uh
basically started to use their front

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yard as a as a dirt bike track uh and I
believe I provided a link to a to a

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video um hopefully you were able to
review that that

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um and uh basically the
um the situation was that the the

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individual
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is having an excessive amount of noise
that is dis disturbing the uh the

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individual and he has I believe I
provided in your in a packet this

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evening a list of uh community members
neighbors to that property who have

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basically signed a petition that they
would be in favor of consideration of

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such an ordinance um we discussed a
couple different options with this with

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this resident whether it be you know a
noise ordinance whether it be regulating

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dirt tracks uh Etc I told him I wasn't
sure what direction the commission might

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like to proceed and that's why I don't
have a sample ordinance in front of you

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uh really was hoping to get some
guidance from you this evening on if you

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would like to consider such an ordinance
and then City attorney solander and I

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can try to come up with something for
your consideration uh but you know

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whether it would be something that you
would want toh to view a a dirt bike

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track prohibition whether it be in city
limits whether it be in a residential

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area um or whether it be something more
along the lines of a of a traditional

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noise ordinance regulating certain
decibel levels uh it's Etc so wasn't

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wasn't exactly sure what direction you
might like to go but thought I'd hear

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what your thoughts were on that could I
make a comment if you guys don't mind

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sure um I don't know uh Mr solander and
Greg you guys might remember when there

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was an issue with um someone having a
gun range out off of

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katala um I don't what the Precedence uh
was I mean I think that set the

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Precedence for this um I don't know what
the um final decision was on that but

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this was probably six or seven years ago
do you remember how that

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um uh what we did there um with with
that uh noise

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complaint I think it just pretty much
took care of itself I'm not recalling

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that we did anything particular on that
I don't remember anything being done

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either yeah that's my recollection is
that we we talked about it and uh the

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complaints went away or subsided or
something because I sure don't recall

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that we enacted anything to address the
issue and I wasn't that property in the

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county and not in the city also it was
County yes that's what I was thinking

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and the the if if I
uh I haven't done any research in the

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registered leads office with this
particular uh situation and the person

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who has the dirt TR dirt bike track but
I believe some part if not a significant

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part of their ground is outside the city
and if it's prohibited uh uh just you

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know from a a dirt bike
standpoint you're going to have a

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problem if they're doing doing it
outside the city the noise ordinance

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looks to me like it might be the most
profitable Avenue to

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explore and the only cautionary that I
would say at this point is 10 or 15

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years ago when these uh noise ordinances
became fairly popular it coincided with

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the availability of relatively
inexpensive decibel

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meters and there was some concern in
some cities uh that without proper

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training uh City officials would
probably get challenged in court when

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the prosecution of citations was uh
necessary I don't I've seen a number of

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ordinances that now prohibit
noise and again it's not an exhaustive

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search by any means but after the notes
appear

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last meeting in the city manager report
I I did a very minimal amount of

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checking there are enough of them out
there that I suspect maybe some of the

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early concerns have been addressed or
proved to be not the problem that they

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were expected to be uh so I think a uh a
noise ordinance might be more uh

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effective
if somebody was trying to move it

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outside the the city limits noise has a
way of of moving and I um I'm not sure

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that you couldn't make an argument that
uh the city would have jurisdiction if

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somebody was so close to the boundary as
to be able to you know create virtually

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an indistinguishable problem for City
residents even though it was being

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generated outside the city um
those are just pretty much random

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thoughts right now but uh unless there's
a real appetite just to address dirt

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bikes I think my inclination would be to
study it from that perspective at least

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initially have they I assume this
property is in the city limits and and

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have uh has anybody reached out to that
property owner and and talk to them I

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mean we're talking about passing rules
for everybody over this one situation

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I haven't uh talked to anybody about it
so I have not spoken with the uh the

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individual in question I can certainly
reach out to um to to that person uh I

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do my understanding is that there have
been conversations um regarding this

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situation uh with the neighbor and the
individual but U I have not but I can

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certainly do that if if you would like
to

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have me explore that route uh prior
to uh moving forward with an

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ordinance yeah I think that I would
appreciate hearing what would come of a

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conversation with the person I mean is
it during the day typically that this is

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happening or is it a nighttime
event so to my at least the the video

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that was provided uh it was certainly
daylight and um it seems to me uh

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through the conversation I had with the
with the resident that it wasn't

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necessarily limited to certain time
frames that it was probably um a uh

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fairly consistent issue uh in evenings
and during the daytime but I can I can

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certainly visit with the with the
individual who the complaint is is

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regarding yeah that would be great
please

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commissioner Cole did you have any other
questions in the interim before he

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speaks um no but I do think it's a good
idea to reach out to the person who has

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the complaint to try to gather all the
information so we'll have that as we

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move forward
yeah good and if nothing else too um the

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person then has the opportunity to
become aware that it's coming for the

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commission so they could always speak on
the matter as

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well okay approval of semi-monthly bills
and payroll in the amount of

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$996 uh commissioner Cole did you have
any questions I do not commissioner

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Gwen I got my questions answered only
notes I'll make is that the 308,000 of

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it is for

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fueling apron and taxi way at the
airport and 437,000 of it is for debt

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payoff on a waterline project so that's
some some big numbers that R this thing

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up just for a little explanation of some
of it thank

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you all right I'll go ahead and make a
motion to approve this in my monthly

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bills and payroll in the amount of

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$996,000
second

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second it's been moved in seconded all
in favor say I I

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I motion passes we'll go ahead and move
on to informational items departmental

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reports commissioner Cole did you have
any comments or questions on these I do

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have a few um on Julie and I know she's
on here um it said that the the

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Harvesters the next distribution may be
on Monday December 21st if someone wants

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to help with that who would they do they
contact you

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um second
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Susan was that who you're were
referencing Mrs Cole it is okay sorry uh

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yeah uh you could certainly reach out to
to Susan or Mr Dan col train is actually

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who puts that together I don't know if
you know Mr col Train's contact

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information but um I don't have his
contact information but I do know who it

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is
okay uh C certainly we can help

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coordinate that if you would have any
interest in assisting I I do know uh

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it's always the more hands that are
available certainly makes it a lot

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easier it's been growing certainly
especially around the holiday season in

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terms of the number of people who are um
who are in need and uh

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the the amount of food and resources
that are provided it's it's just

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absolutely tremendous that our community
can do that for our people yeah I have

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that day off so I would I would like to
to help with that um the other question

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I have in Susan's report it talks about
Meals on Wheels is there um is there an

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age
limit to the kids that could help with

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that do you know like let's say um KY
organization or the FBLA out of the high

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school are if that would even work for

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them do do they have to be a certain age
to help with that that's what I was to

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to be honest I am not sure on on that
okay could I just email Susan would she

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probably
uh she might know Mr sander do you

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happen to know if there's any age restri
I'm not aware of any age restrictions on

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it but uh I haven't had any reason to
check into it so I really don't know

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okay my my first thought would be that
it'd probably be possible essentially

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you're just picking up Meals um
previously prepared meals from the

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senior center and then delivering them
to uh to wherever their final

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destination is
but as long as you have a driver's

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license my assumption would be that that
would be

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Poss I think where there's no
compensation involved in in doing it

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it's a regular uh Class C license which
177 or 18 year old would be able to

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possess that ought to be
adequate okay I will pass that

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information

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on I wanted to
ask on the fire department at a question

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he just said that um there's some
additional Emergency Equipment that's

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going to be needed and he's going to put
that in his December report

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know do you have any idea what equipment
he's talking about is it going to be

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like big dollar amounts or something
that we might be able to get for them uh

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so it was uh all purchases that I think
were you know going to Total to less

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than 5,000 if I recall correctly uh
Chief Skillman and I had a conversation

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about um what they needed to try to do
here at the end of the year um if there

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were any any expenses any needs that
they had and you know one thing was um

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getting the garage doors repaired um
they weren't closing all the way and uh

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the the motor itself and the chain it
was constantly running and if we didn't

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get it fixed uh eventually that door was
going to um malfunction to where it's

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going to open um and then when we have a
fire we need to get a truck out we can't

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get the truck out because the door won't
open um or you know we end up having to

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replace the whole door and get gear and
chain and everything so I believe that's

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going to be around a $1,000 fix and he's
looking for uh hope hopefully get a

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grant for that as well um he went ahead
and purchased I believe it was another

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weed eater a
chainsaw uh some equipment to help

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outfit the trucks so that way no matter
which truck they take uh they they'll

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have the equipment that they need um
currently uh we have or at least

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historically we have had to at times uh
switch equipment from one truck to

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another to try and make sure that the
right equipment was on the truck that

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they were going to respond with and by
outfitting the trucks with all the uh

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00:38:08,119 --> 00:38:14,640
same equipment they're not going to have
to to spend valuable time um trying to

426
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:19,680
make sure that the the truck has the
tools that they need um before they can

427
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:25,640
actually respond um so this way they can
have a quicker response time uh as well

428
00:38:22,480 --> 00:38:31,480
as um I believe uh a fairly significant
purchase was a fan um

429
00:38:28,119 --> 00:38:36,800
you know just trying to make sure that
they're they're properly outfitted for

430
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:42,200
the the job itself and so most
everything was tool oriented um or like

431
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:47,520
in the case of the garage door uh some
repairs there I believe they're also

432
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:53,520
looking at um replacing the Bay Lighting
from uh traditional lighting to LED

433
00:38:50,920 --> 00:38:58,319
lights uh which will be some Capital
expense but longterm should save us some

434
00:38:55,560 --> 00:39:03,520
money on on electricity on electricity
costs uh same same deal with the garage

435
00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:08,839
door in that it wasn't closing properly
and so we were leaking air conditioning

436
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:13,800
we were leaking um hot hot air all the
time and so by fixing that we it should

437
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:20,560
reduce our utility costs as well given
that we'll be able to actually close

438
00:39:16,359 --> 00:39:27,839
that door so overall uh I I do think
that it's going to be less than you know

439
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:31,040
$5,000 to my understanding okay I just
when the fire department needs things

440
00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:35,079
for their trucks I just wanted to make
sure that we I didn't want to slow up

441
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:39,040
that process so if there are things that
they need I just want to make sure that

442
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:44,640
they get those I just have a couple more
things um on the Parks and Recreation

443
00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:49,280
and and this is just a question I know
that high school activities are not

444
00:39:46,240 --> 00:39:56,800
allowing anybody in any Spectators and
so when I read that we are doing that I

445
00:39:52,760 --> 00:40:01,880
just I didn't know if there was um I
mean maybe we what reasoning we use to

446
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:08,000
to do that to allow
Spectators so to uh Phil and I had a had

447
00:40:06,280 --> 00:40:15,040
a conversation about this yesterday
morning and I didn't have a chance to to

448
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:19,319
visit with him um at link uh to try and
really see I guess what modifications

449
00:40:17,319 --> 00:40:23,319
they're looking at but I know that there
are restrictions on the on the amount of

450
00:40:21,240 --> 00:40:30,440
Spectators that are going to be allowed
um I know that in our league there are

451
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:36,800
uh a number of schools that were it was
pivotal to get on board with being able

452
00:40:33,079 --> 00:40:42,280
to really play ball at all uh because if
they were going to um in a lot of cases

453
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:46,599
it was you know a consideration of they
may not allow us to to be in there at

454
00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:51,440
all and and use their gymnasiums and
that was something that uh thankfully we

455
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:55,160
were able to our league was able to
partner with those schools and make that

456
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:59,599
happen there was I believe one school or
one community that dropped out of our

457
00:40:57,319 --> 00:41:06,800
recreational League because they did not
want to abide by the um restrictions on

458
00:41:04,319 --> 00:41:11,599
attendance for spectators um so rather
than play with limited Spectators they

459
00:41:09,480 --> 00:41:19,800
decid they opted out of playing at all
um but we are grateful to be able to

460
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:23,560
offer the um the programming uh at all
so I know that that's something right

461
00:41:21,079 --> 00:41:31,079
now that's challenging Casa did meet
today to review the appeals boards

462
00:41:27,319 --> 00:41:36,359
recommendation to uh rather
than completely remove Spectators to

463
00:41:34,359 --> 00:41:42,800
allow I believe it was somewhere between
one or two

464
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:46,560
um parents or or Spectators per child
I'm not sure you you're probably more

465
00:41:44,119 --> 00:41:54,760
aware of what that result was than than
I am but uh I I know that in

466
00:41:51,599 --> 00:42:01,000
general the the leagues our league was
able to uh get schools and gymnasiums

467
00:41:59,319 --> 00:42:05,640
available that we were going to be able
to have limited

468
00:42:03,040 --> 00:42:10,280
Spectators and so it is something that
you know may be a little bit more than

469
00:42:07,119 --> 00:42:16,880
what Casa allows uh but it is still
Limited at

470
00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:22,559
least okay um I did you don't mind real
real quick I just um we also purchased

471
00:42:19,119 --> 00:42:29,240
two iPads with spark funding so they can
actually stream those youth sport games

472
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:33,400
to still limit the attendance so um we
were going to not we weren't going to be

473
00:42:31,319 --> 00:42:39,640
able to spend everything that we were um
allotted and so we were thinking outside

474
00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:44,280
the box and Phil suggested uh doing that
I reached out to uh the county clerk and

475
00:42:41,880 --> 00:42:48,599
she said yeah that's a viable spark
expense so we actually did and purchase

476
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:53,480
two iPads so they can live stream those
games as well yeah I was excited to see

477
00:42:51,839 --> 00:42:58,839
that when I read that I did want to
compliment Karen who was doing some

478
00:42:55,480 --> 00:43:03,359
online classes um exercise classes so
good for her um the last thing I had I

479
00:43:01,720 --> 00:43:07,720
happen to than the fire department they
always make money through their chili

480
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:12,440
soup supper and I know we have that
Santa Cruisin coming up and I didn't

481
00:43:09,960 --> 00:43:16,800
know it might be too late but I wondered
if they could do something where people

482
00:43:13,800 --> 00:43:22,920
could order it and you know get get
those item get soup to go maybe during

483
00:43:20,240 --> 00:43:26,960
that time and maybe that would help them
um bring in a little bit of money for

484
00:43:25,079 --> 00:43:29,880
some of the things that they're needing
but

485
00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:36,839
just an
idea okay that's all I have thanks thank

486
00:43:34,240 --> 00:43:44,839
here commissioner
Gwen

487
00:43:38,559 --> 00:43:49,559
um well I on the the uh West report fire
chief I see they got two new uh

488
00:43:47,240 --> 00:43:54,920
firefighters on board Zachary wilper and
Justin Thompson so that's good that they

489
00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:59,440
they're getting some some young people
on there and got some interest in that a

490
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:04,440
vital service that they
provide

491
00:44:01,400 --> 00:44:10,680
um one thing on one of the reports the
see a Wastewater truck is needing

492
00:44:07,640 --> 00:44:16,960
replaced is that a is that like a pickup
style truck or or a bigger truck like

493
00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:24,359
commissioner G can you hear
me commissioner G can you hear me yep

494
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:29,720
okay it is a Ford F250 and it's not
necessarily being replaced uh it would

495
00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:36,359
serve is a backup truck but it's getting
pretty thin

496
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:41,599
um pretty thin and my hope is that next
year we can get them a new truck or a

497
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:46,520
good used truck and then have that as a
backup truck uh mechanically we're

498
00:44:44,559 --> 00:44:53,440
putting a lot of money into parts and
labor because that is their daily driver

499
00:44:49,720 --> 00:44:59,079
um 25 years old and I can see through
the wheel well to the frame

500
00:44:57,200 --> 00:45:06,400
it's getting pretty rough I I just
wanted to bring that up because they're

501
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:10,520
getting by very well with very little
um and I don't want them to miss their

502
00:45:08,599 --> 00:45:14,160
turn and then they can't rot a sewer
because they don't have anything to pull

503
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,160
the sewer Roder

504
00:45:15,040 --> 00:45:23,359
with Chris do we have uh is there
anything scheduled for

505
00:45:20,319 --> 00:45:27,880
21 in regards to that do you know
commissioner when

506
00:45:25,079 --> 00:45:33,640
sir uh I've been taking care of or
trying to take care of public works' uh

507
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:36,559
equipment reserve and they are due for
one next

508
00:45:37,079 --> 00:45:47,319
year it was it
budgeted

509
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:52,359
yes so we do have the the budget uh set
for the equipment Reserve plan for next

510
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:52,359
year for a Wastewater truck

511
00:45:55,920 --> 00:46:01,400
yes sounds like that issue is going to
be

512
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:07,640
resolved
correct it should be

513
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:07,640
yes

514
00:46:08,040 --> 00:46:16,960
okay and then the
uh looking for a replacement truck for

515
00:46:13,720 --> 00:46:23,000
the uh sanitation
department

516
00:46:19,119 --> 00:46:26,720
um sounds like that's probably the
cheapest best route than having these

517
00:46:25,319 --> 00:46:29,760
trucks that keep breaking down all the
time

518
00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:33,920
uh realizing that
that's even with that said it's still

519
00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:38,280
going to be an expensive Venture not
only buying the truck but then getting

520
00:46:35,319 --> 00:46:42,680
it outfitted with the with the bed
that's on our truck that I assume is

521
00:46:40,079 --> 00:46:49,760
what they're talking about doing right
uh we're hoping to move one of our beds

522
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:53,960
over we have a Ford that has a faulty
brake system that we keep on getting

523
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:58,839
repaired and then warrantied on the
second repair and we have an

524
00:46:55,559 --> 00:47:03,599
international that has a faulty EGR
valve

525
00:47:00,599 --> 00:47:10,520
um due to engineering very poor
engineering and my thought was to drive

526
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:16,839
whichever one of the two into the ground
um get every last little bit of mileage

527
00:47:14,000 --> 00:47:24,440
out of it we can and
then replace that truck with a good used

528
00:47:20,599 --> 00:47:28,000
truck sell the remnants on purple wave
and move forward

529
00:47:28,040 --> 00:47:37,960
that uh well that that sounds like a
good a good plan to me

530
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:44,800
uh we we need a reliable backup
truck uh I I did heard something here

531
00:47:41,800 --> 00:47:49,800
lately and and I was curious about the
uh we're hauling trash to Coffee County

532
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:53,920
and I so they're hauling trash over
there in the trash truck to to Coffee

533
00:47:51,720 --> 00:47:59,359
County is that correct
yes when I looked into the pricing and

534
00:47:56,960 --> 00:48:05,119
Coffee County was one of
them it was really my intent as if we

535
00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:10,440
went with a transfer station and haul in
bulk over there instead of a a pickup

536
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:15,680
load at a time I I don't see how that
can be cost effective even if you break

537
00:48:13,359 --> 00:48:22,119
Mr Gwyn we don't haul a pickup load at a
time we haul a trash truck load

538
00:48:18,680 --> 00:48:26,920
um we're saving a little bit of money
not a lot um I'm working on a transfer

539
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:30,240
station
it's going to be homemade but it we're

540
00:48:28,520 --> 00:48:32,960
going to save the engineering fee and
then I have another proposal that I

541
00:48:31,720 --> 00:48:38,680
think will actually move the trash
service forward that should be discussed

542
00:48:36,200 --> 00:48:43,119
tonight furthermore uh the guys are
doing regular maintenance on the trucks

543
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:54,799
now and I read that that's good the
uh well I yeah I'm interested in hearing

544
00:48:52,839 --> 00:49:00,559
about the
uh transfer station that it was yeah

545
00:48:57,960 --> 00:49:05,880
really my intent to really see any cost
savings is hauling more volume of trash

546
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:10,359
even though a trash truck still as far
as volume goes

547
00:49:07,599 --> 00:49:15,960
in a terrible lot compared to what a
semi load would be um to really see the

548
00:49:17,119 --> 00:49:26,720
savings so it's whatever works I was
just surprised if that small volume was

549
00:49:21,359 --> 00:49:26,720
being haul clear over there um

550
00:49:28,480 --> 00:49:38,920
so so at the moment uh we are currently
paying $40 a ton at our local transfer

551
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:45,440
station here and at Coffee County I
believe we're paying $24 a ton so it's

552
00:49:41,799 --> 00:49:51,559
not half the cost uh but at a at a cost
difference of 16 $16 a ton with how much

553
00:49:49,119 --> 00:49:57,319
we're hauling per trash load over there
I mean that that we normally uh dispose

554
00:49:54,680 --> 00:50:01,440
of right around 2,000 tons a year
um that's $32,000 a year if we were to

555
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:06,760
dump all of our trash at Coffee County
drive all that way back and forth and

556
00:50:03,720 --> 00:50:12,000
our increased costs are our labor as
well as wear and tear on the trucks um

557
00:50:09,559 --> 00:50:17,440
the trucks truly are not meant for all
the highway miles um so it is a little

558
00:50:14,839 --> 00:50:22,280
bit more wear and tear on them certainly
we're going to have increased costs

559
00:50:18,920 --> 00:50:25,680
associated with that um we're seeing
some of that this year with regard to

560
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:30,520
because we had to go to Allen County
last year

561
00:50:27,160 --> 00:50:34,200
um but to you know in my mind I don't
think we're going to come close to an

562
00:50:32,720 --> 00:50:38,200
additional
$32,000 um even if we were to go there

563
00:50:36,520 --> 00:50:45,839
every day that was our that was our
Daily Dump uh that we wouldn't spend an

564
00:50:40,400 --> 00:50:51,720
additional 32 Grand a year uh in uh in
wear and tear vehicle maintenance and

565
00:50:48,559 --> 00:50:56,960
labor cost uh you know the the trash
utility is one that I think uh you know

566
00:50:54,720 --> 00:51:01,400
while our costs are going to go up in
terms of Maintenance they're not going

567
00:50:58,319 --> 00:51:05,520
to be we're still going to save money on
the

568
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:12,960
$16 cost savings granted that's still
not ideal uh I'd rather either a

569
00:51:08,119 --> 00:51:18,839
transfer station or uh have cost savings
or a a different structure as Mr

570
00:51:15,160 --> 00:51:24,799
Burkhart has has proposed um as what is
in your packet I I think either one of

571
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:31,040
those them or both of them are uh more
favorable options longterm um but for a

572
00:51:28,400 --> 00:51:36,280
short-term uh fix I do believe that this
is saving us money rather than being

573
00:51:33,160 --> 00:51:42,319
Break Even or even costing us
extra and that $40 is going to 45 is

574
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,319
that correct or that's

575
00:51:42,359 --> 00:51:51,720
what's and Mr gwy I will say I am trying
everything that I have to make the trash

576
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:55,960
service solvent um I'm looking into
getting a recycling station because

577
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:59,079
every pound we do not put on a truck we
don't pay for

578
00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:03,640
move down here but I can't find anyone
that's willing to do it for the

579
00:52:01,079 --> 00:52:09,400
recycling value that they get moving it
up here um I considered hiring somebody

580
00:52:06,920 --> 00:52:16,000
three days a week on the trash service
versus five um there's lots of things

581
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:16,000
we're throwing out this to

582
00:52:17,799 --> 00:52:25,640
try okay well I just wanted to touch on
a couple of those uh but uh looking to

583
00:52:24,160 --> 00:52:32,480
me anyway looking for the replacement
trucks good plan the one thing I wanted

584
00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:37,960
to touch on and Susan had requested in
her report that uh that we at least

585
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:43,319
discussed something about the uh
Garnett's 160th celebration so I don't

586
00:52:40,640 --> 00:52:49,359
know if anybody will have any thoughts
on

587
00:52:44,480 --> 00:52:54,799
that and other uh that's all I
had commissioner Gwen on that 160th

588
00:52:52,880 --> 00:53:00,119
anniversary did she say she was going to
reach out to the committee kind of get

589
00:52:57,000 --> 00:53:03,040
some ideas first I guess that I guess
that's how I read it then maybe she

590
00:53:01,480 --> 00:53:06,920
would check with them and then maybe get
back with

591
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:11,119
this uh what I read it says here I would
appreciate the commission's thoughts on

592
00:53:08,359 --> 00:53:18,480
a celebration of the Garnett's 160th
should we do another ball drop on 1231

593
00:53:14,920 --> 00:53:24,400
2021 host a parade or a festival of
sorts or in some other manner recognize

594
00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:30,280
the Milestone so I think what I read she
was putting it to us what uh if we had

595
00:53:26,960 --> 00:53:36,839
any thoughts of even doing anything
or or our blessing towards

596
00:53:34,359 --> 00:53:41,280
it
okay it later it says that she's going

597
00:53:39,440 --> 00:53:47,839
to be sharing that
information so um okay I I I think we

598
00:53:45,400 --> 00:53:52,240
should do something I I don't know if I
have any Grand ideas right now

599
00:53:50,000 --> 00:53:58,440
but I can think about it and shoot them
to

600
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:58,440
her shoot them as in an email

601
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:11,520
yeah okay well I thought the 150th was a
was a neat deal I can't remember the the

602
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:15,160
cost on that but the the Cris cakes or
whatever came down and anyway I thought

603
00:54:13,559 --> 00:54:20,000
it was kind of unique maybe we don't
have to go that big this time but it was

604
00:54:17,440 --> 00:54:25,000
uh just any kind of community
involvement I guess with the co thing

605
00:54:22,559 --> 00:54:28,359
might might change that Outlook a little
bit but uh

606
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:34,200
anything to get the community involved
would be would be a great

607
00:54:35,079 --> 00:54:43,920
thing yeah it's nice to have those
opportunities to Rally around especially

608
00:54:40,520 --> 00:54:48,520
when it comes to a community event that
is celebrating the existence of the city

609
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:53,000
so I think it'd be neat to see what
ideas you know come forward from

610
00:54:53,359 --> 00:55:03,280
it is that all you have commissioner
Gwyn that's ahe okay I think that we

611
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:08,480
covered most of the
comments uh let me

612
00:55:05,799 --> 00:55:13,160
see oh Jody I was just going to mention
I didn't get a chance to I I think part

613
00:55:10,680 --> 00:55:17,760
of the reason too they might well would
be interested in allowing some

614
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:22,920
Spectators as opposed to zero is just
the age group like being um if it's K

615
00:55:20,119 --> 00:55:26,400
through second grade just thinking of my
kids I probably wouldn't want I don't

616
00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:29,440
know to just leave them there and they
probably wouldn't necessarily want me to

617
00:55:28,119 --> 00:55:34,640
leave or there might be some children
who wouldn't want their parents to leave

618
00:55:31,359 --> 00:55:39,760
them so I I did see that on the little
ones and I and that was my guess um I

619
00:55:36,920 --> 00:55:44,960
know we've got little ones that come in
that are probably two and three for SLP

620
00:55:43,160 --> 00:55:49,200
services and they have to leave them the
parents have to leave them at the door

621
00:55:46,400 --> 00:55:55,839
so yeah I can it'd be greater for
everybody if if they were there but

622
00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:57,920
I I'm going to do we were allow
spectator

623
00:55:57,079 --> 00:56:02,079
oh
yeah um let me see oh I was going to ask

624
00:56:00,599 --> 00:56:05,799
Chris and I don't I don't know if you'd
be aware it said that there was a

625
00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:09,599
greater influx of kids coming in from
the high school whenever virtual

626
00:56:07,359 --> 00:56:13,559
learning is over for the day I didn't
know if there was um if everything at

627
00:56:11,680 --> 00:56:17,880
the rec center was
still going well I mean I don't know if

628
00:56:16,200 --> 00:56:23,480
this is in off hours when there isn't
office staff if there's been any

629
00:56:20,000 --> 00:56:28,000
increase and um not necessarily
vandalism but wear and tear or what

630
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:36,240
we're see
so we uh and granted I haven't had this

631
00:56:32,280 --> 00:56:40,760
exact discussion with director burus but
uh I know that when we have talked about

632
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:48,119
the rec center everything's going well
to my understanding um we are planning

633
00:56:43,799 --> 00:56:52,559
on having the uh the offices out there
because as you are aware director burus

634
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:57,680
is moving his office down to the rec
center and so all that should be uh

635
00:56:54,960 --> 00:57:05,240
getting fixed up next week I believe
with regard to the flooring and um and

636
00:57:00,880 --> 00:57:10,839
so they he should be down there here uh
middle of the month I believe um on a

637
00:57:07,839 --> 00:57:17,240
more permanent basis uh the with regard
to current situation I know our staffing

638
00:57:13,720 --> 00:57:21,280
isn't quite what it was um G given you
know the covid situation and whatnot uh

639
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:27,400
you know we don't were not open as many
hours as what we uh previously were with

640
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:33,760
regard to just walk-ins um I think it's
mainly two to seven at the moment um but

641
00:57:31,359 --> 00:57:39,880
we haven't seen at least to my knowledge
any significant up uptick with regard to

642
00:57:36,440 --> 00:57:45,240
vandalism or um any significant negative
factors uh which is certainly a positive

643
00:57:42,400 --> 00:57:49,240
thing uh and you know I think we've seen
kind of the same thing with regard to

644
00:57:47,119 --> 00:57:53,680
you know the depot and some other areas
where we have historically had some some

645
00:57:51,640 --> 00:57:58,799
challenges uh you know this year has
been um

646
00:57:56,319 --> 00:58:02,799
somewhat unusual and that we haven't had
those challenges as what we uh as what

647
00:58:01,119 --> 00:58:08,359
we historically have had so so that's
certainly been a positive um and I'm not

648
00:58:05,440 --> 00:58:13,200
sure you know exactly how everything
fits into that if it's the you know more

649
00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:17,240
uh isolation due to covid or or what it
may be but um you know as far as

650
00:58:15,760 --> 00:58:21,640
vandalism is concerned at least that's
been a positive for us we haven't seen

651
00:58:19,200 --> 00:58:24,720
nearly as much of that this year to myh
to my

652
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:30,160
knowledge thank you so much that's
really good to hear I also noticed that

653
00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:33,880
they were working on a grant to possibly
place an outdoor Fitness Park as this I

654
00:58:32,559 --> 00:58:38,400
know this had kind of been talked about
in the past would this be around the rec

655
00:58:35,799 --> 00:58:44,079
center where they're looking at yes so
at the moment the the game plan would be

656
00:58:40,440 --> 00:58:51,680
to try to uh build it just in the Tot
Lot south of the of the rec center and I

657
00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:59,400
know that this is a fairly significant
uh exercise fitness area um it's to the

658
00:58:56,400 --> 00:59:04,160
tune of I believe uh around
$160,000 um playground area and uh

659
00:59:02,680 --> 00:59:09,319
they've applied for a grant to try to
get some significant funding from that

660
00:59:06,400 --> 00:59:15,960
or for that as well as looking for some
um some uh areas sponsors to help try to

661
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:21,920
to make that happen um they're going to
choose I believe five sites in the state

662
00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:28,319
of Kansas to uh to have this Fitness
area and so we're in the running at

663
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:32,400
least to to be select for it um I know
that I believe talking to Phil there is

664
00:59:30,079 --> 00:59:36,760
only one currently open in the state in
Witchita and they're building one in

665
00:59:34,079 --> 00:59:41,799
Kansas City uh and so it' definitely be
a a positive and I think a significant

666
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:49,920
draw to the community if we were able to
um to to bring such a fitness uh area to

667
00:59:46,160 --> 00:59:54,280
our community um at uh a significantly
reduced

668
00:59:51,680 --> 00:59:59,480
cost yeah that would be wonderful thank
you for explaining that a little bit Mar

669
00:59:56,160 --> 01:00:03,640
appreciate that um oh I just wanted to
point out too I thought it was great in

670
01:00:00,760 --> 01:00:08,799
the public works department report it
said that they held a an event like a

671
01:00:06,119 --> 01:00:12,160
barbecue morale event that didn't cost
the city anything and I just think

672
01:00:10,480 --> 01:00:16,799
that's wonderful that they were able to
do that for their

673
01:00:14,440 --> 01:00:21,599
employees I think that's all that I had
marked so we can go ahead and move on oh

674
01:00:20,000 --> 01:00:27,039
unless Chris did you have
anything on your last comment there that

675
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:31,280
was all director burkart uh he he
decided to to put that on for his staff

676
01:00:29,039 --> 01:00:36,920
and so certainly appreciate him him
doing that U I know I think the guys

677
01:00:34,240 --> 01:00:40,680
certainly have appreciated it and are I
think it certainly is a good morale

678
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:43,119
booster yeah I think it's wonderful it
sounds like there are a lot of good

679
01:00:41,680 --> 01:00:48,160
things and ideas coming out of the
public works

680
01:00:45,319 --> 01:00:54,240
department I would con I did want to
make uh one point on commissioner gwyn's

681
01:00:51,640 --> 01:00:59,280
comment earlier about the almost
$400,000 uh in the airport expenses for

682
01:00:57,079 --> 01:01:05,520
the fueling apron the vast majority of
that will be reimbursed through an FAA

683
01:01:01,280 --> 01:01:11,119
Grant um so uh that isn't necessarily
the whole bunch of tax dollars being

684
01:01:07,079 --> 01:01:15,680
expended for an airport project uh the
extreme majority of that is going to be

685
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:18,480
reimbursed thankfully so okay thank you
for clarifying

686
01:01:18,559 --> 01:01:25,960
that oh Chris I did I forgot I had
marked this as a question based on the

687
01:01:23,599 --> 01:01:29,640
trash hauling trash and whatnot have you
you heard anything from the county at

688
01:01:28,039 --> 01:01:34,839
all and do we have a joint meeting
before the end of the year we do not uh

689
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:39,680
have a joint meeting as far as uh the
county on this particular issue uh

690
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:43,760
they've essentially said you guys want
to research and look into your own trans

691
01:01:41,599 --> 01:01:48,599
transfer station have at
it they don't think that that's an

692
01:01:46,000 --> 01:01:52,240
option that we are going to seriously
consider I think that it'll be too

693
01:01:50,440 --> 01:01:57,000
expensive for us to really want to go
down that route and it may end up being

694
01:01:54,119 --> 01:02:03,400
that way um but director burkart is
doing everything he can to try to put

695
01:01:58,680 --> 01:02:10,039
together uh a set of engineered plans
from from his own mind uh um that uh

696
01:02:06,960 --> 01:02:15,520
will be you know at least usable for us
and the biggest issue is just um get the

697
01:02:12,760 --> 01:02:19,640
state permit um and so I know he's
working with the state and that's one

698
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:23,720
area where he's got a lot of experience
is working with the state um to try to

699
01:02:21,559 --> 01:02:28,720
make sure that that permit is is signed
off on so um I think he's got some good

700
01:02:26,920 --> 01:02:33,279
ideas on how he can try to make it make
it work um and we'll see if it's

701
01:02:31,640 --> 01:02:37,000
feasible
um the there's something else I was

702
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:42,039
gonna mention but I can't remember what
it was now so oh I so just in general so

703
01:02:40,039 --> 01:02:46,880
there will not be any joint meetings
correct yeah uh not before the end of

704
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:51,960
the year sorry so I spoke with County
Clerk wetstein and she indicated that

705
01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:57,160
they were hoping to have something after
the first of the year okay okay great

706
01:02:54,799 --> 01:03:03,920
thank you
uh November 2020 financials commissioner

707
01:03:00,119 --> 01:03:09,760
Cole did you have any questions I do not
commissioner

708
01:03:05,839 --> 01:03:12,200
Gwen I did not other than the uh let me
find it

709
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:23,480
here only thing I think for December it
didn't have any income or expense here

710
01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:29,880
it is any income or
expense items listed for December

711
01:03:27,200 --> 01:03:34,960
did I include the wrong month there it
should have been November not December

712
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:38,680
uh that may be that explains it because
I think well thought I found

713
01:03:40,599 --> 01:03:48,200
it yeah
I apologize on that uh it it should have

714
01:03:45,559 --> 01:03:54,720
shown November's revenue and expenses
rather than December um I that so that

715
01:03:52,440 --> 01:03:59,559
explains it uh but I looked at the year
to date and and everything look look

716
01:03:57,200 --> 01:03:59,559
fine to

717
01:04:02,400 --> 01:04:10,279
me
okay all right we'll go ahead and move

718
01:04:06,839 --> 01:04:16,440
on to informational items traffic study
for the intersection of u59 k31 Park

719
01:04:14,039 --> 01:04:23,400
Road
Chris uh so as you may recall here a

720
01:04:19,599 --> 01:04:28,720
couple years ago there was a a question
about the possibility of a left turn

721
01:04:26,039 --> 01:04:35,079
signal there at that intersection uh
especially on Tuesdays today it gets

722
01:04:32,079 --> 01:04:41,680
insanely busy with regard to the sale
going on at the sail Barn as well as um

723
01:04:38,279 --> 01:04:46,000
traffic for school Etc so uh there was
some some desire to see if that might be

724
01:04:43,559 --> 01:04:50,200
possible kot went ahead and commissioned
a traffic study on it said that well

725
01:04:49,119 --> 01:04:54,240
it's probably going to be a year and a
half to two years before our Engineers

726
01:04:52,240 --> 01:05:00,960
can get a study done so this is the
result of that study uh essentially

727
01:04:56,599 --> 01:05:06,599
they're saying that um there is no need
and they're not going to be willing to

728
01:05:03,039 --> 01:05:11,799
to allow a turn a left turn signal at
that location they have some some

729
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:16,039
recommendations as you can see uh but a
left turn signal itself is not one of

730
01:05:16,200 --> 01:05:22,640
them yeah I noticed they had phrased it
it may be consider considered when

731
01:05:20,839 --> 01:05:26,640
funding becomes
available yeah

732
01:05:29,720 --> 01:05:35,839
okay uh commissioner Cole did you have
any questions about this study I do not

733
01:05:34,279 --> 01:05:43,160
commissioner
Gwyn I did not it was very extensive

734
01:05:39,119 --> 01:05:43,160
I'll give them that yes it

735
01:05:44,680 --> 01:05:56,200
was okay item
D refu utility operational changes

736
01:05:52,240 --> 01:06:02,960
proposal so as I'm sure sure you read
director Burkhart has came up with a um

737
01:06:00,200 --> 01:06:06,240
in the process of trying to make our
trash utility more solvent as you may

738
01:06:04,839 --> 01:06:11,760
recall we've talked for the last two
years about our utilities and the issues

739
01:06:09,079 --> 01:06:17,599
that we have um that Wastewater and
trash are really the two utilities that

740
01:06:14,000 --> 01:06:22,680
we have that are in the um that that
cause myself at least the the greatest

741
01:06:20,160 --> 01:06:27,559
majority of concern um given that
currently our our revenues either e

742
01:06:25,760 --> 01:06:34,279
don't meet don't cover costs
operationally or it's very close um and

743
01:06:30,920 --> 01:06:38,200
trash itself uh is the utility which is
in the mo is in the worst shape um that

744
01:06:36,440 --> 01:06:43,599
we're losing money every year on the
trash serice um and it's continues to

745
01:06:41,359 --> 01:06:51,160
bleed more and more and that's going to
be uh even worse come next year uh with

746
01:06:48,039 --> 01:06:56,880
regard to the counties change and cost
to us for for dumping as you're aware um

747
01:06:54,960 --> 01:07:01,079
in the process C of of trying to figure
out how we can make it more solvent

748
01:06:58,599 --> 01:07:05,760
director Burkhart has came up with a
number of ideas one of which is to go

749
01:07:03,880 --> 01:07:11,279
and and dump more frequently at Coffee
County which I do think will help but it

750
01:07:07,960 --> 01:07:15,520
is not the solution um as commissioner
Gwen referenced that's um unless we get

751
01:07:13,720 --> 01:07:20,200
a transfer station built that's not
realistically um going to be a long-term

752
01:07:17,880 --> 01:07:26,279
solution it's more of a short-term
Band-Aid um the this particular proposal

753
01:07:23,960 --> 01:07:33,000
as you can tell um
addresses the trash solvency issue from

754
01:07:28,880 --> 01:07:38,119
a different perspective more from the
from the Outlook of that you know we

755
01:07:36,240 --> 01:07:44,039
meter all of our other utilities with
regard to electric gas water uh and this

756
01:07:40,920 --> 01:07:49,400
is one utility that that we do not we
have that capability uh but we don't

757
01:07:46,359 --> 01:07:54,920
currently do that um and given that our
costs are are twofold one we have a

758
01:07:52,079 --> 01:07:58,720
fixed cost which is cost of personnel
which is cost trucks uh so on and so

759
01:07:56,920 --> 01:08:04,119
forth the cost of being able to actually
pick it up and then we have a variable

760
01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:09,480
cost which is our cost to dispose of the
trash we our current rate structure with

761
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:13,160
all other utilities is based on both we
have a fixed charge the customer charge

762
01:08:11,319 --> 01:08:17,640
of whatever it may be for instance gas
it's $2 a month we've talked about that

763
01:08:15,319 --> 01:08:21,679
at length in the past that in my opinion
that rate structure needs to be modified

764
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:28,799
increase the the base charge the fixed
charge decrease the usage charge um in

765
01:08:24,799 --> 01:08:33,239
this case they uh and that's because for
gas your fixed charg is so low if you

766
01:08:31,279 --> 01:08:37,000
use a lot of gas you pay a lot if you
don't use very much gas you don't pay

767
01:08:34,920 --> 01:08:42,239
very much at all but we charge for the
usage charge because our cost we have to

768
01:08:39,759 --> 01:08:47,799
purchase at wholesale we resell if you
use more gas it costs us more money

769
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:53,440
trash is the same way in that we charge
a base charge of $15 a month and but

770
01:08:50,679 --> 01:08:58,839
then we incur cost as well for how much
trash you dispose of we have to go dump

771
01:08:56,600 --> 01:09:03,560
that the more trash you have the more
cost it is to us as the city we don't

772
01:09:01,319 --> 01:09:09,159
currently charge anybody based on how
much they use so whether it's one bag of

773
01:09:06,679 --> 01:09:14,319
trash or whether it's 50 bags of trash
it's the same cost for a resident and

774
01:09:12,120 --> 01:09:19,120
and Commercial properties in in most
cases are estimated uh and so it's a

775
01:09:16,839 --> 01:09:24,960
it's a challenging scenario for us
currently um in

776
01:09:21,440 --> 01:09:30,040
that compared to other utilities we are
consistent stantly losing money because

777
01:09:26,839 --> 01:09:36,799
we're not charging based on usage um and
so that's the gist of where his proposal

778
01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:41,000
is coming from um and uh certainly I'll
let him speak a little bit more to the

779
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:44,960
to the specifics of it but you know High
L overview that's kind of that's kind of

780
01:09:42,920 --> 01:09:50,719
where we're
at uh I would welcome questions uh Mr

781
01:09:48,279 --> 01:09:56,320
Wier explain it pretty well the problem
is you can throw away $1 General sack

782
01:09:53,480 --> 01:10:01,000
you don't purchase trash bags
$1 General sack at the mailbox and be

783
01:09:59,080 --> 01:10:07,600
fine or you can throw away an entire
blocks worth of trash and be fine

784
01:10:04,440 --> 01:10:11,760
um what needs to happen is we go to a
method where we bill for the amount of

785
01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:16,920
trash you throw out um we don't have to
raise rates by any means as long as you

786
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:21,600
can fit in the small
container

787
01:10:18,800 --> 01:10:26,480
um and additionally I have cart Tipper
proposals because we have to go to a

788
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:32,679
standardized trash cart
um quite frankly I've ridden the trash

789
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:37,520
truck a lot since I've been here and the
way we do it is very Antiquated just my

790
01:10:35,199 --> 01:10:37,520
personal

791
01:10:38,159 --> 01:10:47,760
opinion my question my question
is are you making a billing

792
01:10:45,040 --> 01:10:53,400
nightmare by you know they pull up there
to dump the trash whe they got a bag or

793
01:10:50,360 --> 01:10:59,120
two two bags more than they're you think
they should have uh

794
01:10:56,239 --> 01:11:02,719
all getting that information down and
then getting it relay to City staff and

795
01:11:01,280 --> 01:11:07,880
then getting that
build I mean it looks to me like an

796
01:11:05,480 --> 01:11:13,520
operational nightmare i' I've heard of
different outfits selling stickers and

797
01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:18,719
you if you have something extra you got
to have another sticker to put on it you

798
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:24,840
buy the stickers
I I don't know I just wonder if it's not

799
01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:30,719
going to be a a a nightmare for billing
and to keep track of

800
01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:35,920
it Mr wi not at all if it doesn't go in
the cart we don't pick it

801
01:11:33,800 --> 01:11:42,480
up that's not going to do too much for
the aesthetic town if we got trash line

802
01:11:38,159 --> 01:11:46,960
in the streets H then you buy another
cart but but what if they just don't

803
01:11:44,800 --> 01:11:52,080
care that the trash is sitting out there
they let them rot on their own

804
01:11:49,880 --> 01:11:56,960
filth that becomes a Code Enforcement
issue at that point I think that the

805
01:11:54,800 --> 01:12:01,920
difference here compared to other
utilities like say gas electricity

806
01:11:59,840 --> 01:12:05,000
that's not something you can move
somewhere else so if you have someone

807
01:12:03,840 --> 01:12:09,000
who doesn't want to pay for excess
garbage you're going to find that your

808
01:12:06,120 --> 01:12:13,239
city dumpsters are going to be full of
people's trash or people will put their

809
01:12:10,760 --> 01:12:17,440
trash in front of someone else's house I
mean

810
01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:21,880
I I just don't know that that would work
too well I mean I know that in some

811
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:27,400
cities they will allow people if they
want to purchase a cart or use one of

812
01:12:24,280 --> 01:12:31,159
the city carts they can pay a $2 monthly
fee or something to use it but they can

813
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:34,920
still have trash outside of that cart
and it not cost them money I mean it's

814
01:12:33,400 --> 01:12:40,159
kind of a health and sanitation issue
too I would almost rather see that uh

815
01:12:37,679 --> 01:12:47,440
the sanitation department be subsidized
to a degree which I know that it is but

816
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:52,040
more so than um compromising on I I
don't know charging people more based on

817
01:12:49,880 --> 01:12:55,040
some usage that could definitely
fluctuate

818
01:12:57,239 --> 01:13:02,600
Miss mayare
respectfully do you choose to use a

819
01:13:01,040 --> 01:13:09,120
certain amount of water in the summer
versus the

820
01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:13,199
winter I know that our trash definitely
varies as far as like is there a holiday

821
01:13:11,480 --> 01:13:17,960
so around Thanksgiving or Christmas
we're gonna have a lot more

822
01:13:15,840 --> 01:13:22,560
trash so would you be willing to pay
more for a larger cart knowing that you

823
01:13:20,560 --> 01:13:26,920
can fit everything you ever need to have
in that cart I think that I would honest

824
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:33,800
prefer just to know what I'm going to be
Char I mean have a flat rate fee as

825
01:13:28,960 --> 01:13:39,600
opposed to um it being a variable fee
and then would you hold back some of

826
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:43,080
your trash on your heavy weeks and then
put it in there on light weeks

827
01:13:44,719 --> 01:13:50,520
to it would really depend what's in the
trash bag I suppose but I'm not really

828
01:13:48,480 --> 01:13:54,159
even speaking from me because if we did
have this I would I suppose try to

829
01:13:52,800 --> 01:13:57,400
monitor my trash I'm saying is that
there are going to be people who are

830
01:13:55,800 --> 01:14:00,719
going to take their trash bags to the
city dumpsters to throw their trash away

831
01:13:59,159 --> 01:14:05,480
or they'll just dump it in the country
because they don't want to pay

832
01:14:02,480 --> 01:14:08,760
more in which case it's Anderson County
that bears the burden not

833
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:18,080
us that's still our our our problem to
some extent we don't want to be a

834
01:14:15,080 --> 01:14:25,880
problem like that I
uh and I for one thing I I definitely

835
01:14:22,000 --> 01:14:30,639
appreciate the thoughts put into uh
operational changes and trying to get

836
01:14:27,639 --> 01:14:36,560
the the financials in a better situation
I wonder if you guys

837
01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:41,880
would allow me some time I I mean uh
director burkart I I'm I'm good friends

838
01:14:39,639 --> 01:14:47,080
with a a gentleman that owned a a large
trash company for

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decades I wonder if I can try to set up
a meeting and and have him uh we just

840
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:57,480
sit down and talk to him I think he
could give a lot of insight to a lot of

841
01:14:53,159 --> 01:15:02,880
these things and and uh got years of
experience and it might be uh might save

842
01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:06,679
a lot of grief or or give some insight
on

843
01:15:03,880 --> 01:15:11,000
things and so we are uh in the process
of trying to reach out to some other

844
01:15:08,280 --> 01:15:16,920
utilities as well that do the same job
uh have a contact with the city of

845
01:15:14,360 --> 01:15:20,600
Emporia um to try and reach out to them
and and visit with their Public Works

846
01:15:18,560 --> 01:15:25,120
director and and their sanitation
director to visit with them about how

847
01:15:22,040 --> 01:15:29,280
they um they handle their operation
granted they're a lot bigger than us uh

848
01:15:26,920 --> 01:15:33,760
but you know their their situation is
you know they have the same challenges

849
01:15:30,600 --> 01:15:39,440
that we do um and my understanding you
know their uh situation is that their

850
01:15:36,920 --> 01:15:43,560
trash utility actually subsidizes other
departments their trash utility

851
01:15:40,760 --> 01:15:48,000
subsidizes the general fund um like our
electric utility do and water and and

852
01:15:46,000 --> 01:15:52,800
gas um because they're able to turn a
profit um through their operational uh

853
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:57,080
methods same same thing with the City of
Lawrence and a lot of other places um

854
01:15:55,360 --> 01:16:04,639
that you know the trash utility is
solvent and it actually is a a mechanism

855
01:16:00,400 --> 01:16:09,239
that is a profit generator rather than a
um an entity that needs subsidized and

856
01:16:06,920 --> 01:16:13,639
each of these utilities at least in my
opinion needs to be self-sufficient um

857
01:16:11,800 --> 01:16:19,239
each utility should be run like its own
individual business and if if your

858
01:16:16,600 --> 01:16:23,360
business is losing money um you know we
need to make some changes operationally

859
01:16:21,639 --> 01:16:28,000
this business is one that is losing
money this should be a Standalone

860
01:16:25,440 --> 01:16:33,280
business the trash utility uh should be
able to to generate a profit on its own

861
01:16:30,520 --> 01:16:38,400
to be able to then reinvest into itself
uh to be able to reinvest into buying

862
01:16:35,600 --> 01:16:42,560
new trucks uh whatever we need to do um
to keep to keep the utility going and

863
01:16:40,400 --> 01:16:46,679
and at the moment we're just not there
um so but but we are you reaching out to

864
01:16:45,159 --> 01:16:51,120
others as well as you know director
Burkhart I think does have some some

865
01:16:48,520 --> 01:16:56,520
terrific ideas that uh we're obviously
exploring but um certainly if you have a

866
01:16:54,920 --> 01:17:00,840
contact commissioner Gwyn I I think we'd
love to to have that but it is something

867
01:16:58,679 --> 01:17:05,199
we are actively trying to figure out hey
what what why why reinvent the wheel you

868
01:17:03,440 --> 01:17:09,440
know other people are successful with
this so let's try to check their best

869
01:17:07,480 --> 01:17:12,320
method best methods and see if we can
Implement some of those here

870
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:21,400
locally absolutely and I do appreciate
um that the work that has been put into

871
01:17:18,040 --> 01:17:25,719
it so far I would just um I know that it
was brought here as a proposal more for

872
01:17:23,280 --> 01:17:32,440
us to acquaint ourselves with the ideas
and to kind of um you know see if we can

873
01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:36,000
you know how receptive we are and you
know what we would like to see or what

874
01:17:34,040 --> 01:17:40,239
we might work on so I mean since it's
not even a regular business item yet

875
01:17:38,280 --> 01:17:45,120
well like I said I appreciate the
information being provided so that um

876
01:17:43,360 --> 01:17:49,639
the so that all the Commissioners can
basically become acquainted with what

877
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:53,679
might be on the horizon so that we can
refine everything to work best for the

878
01:17:51,560 --> 01:17:56,840
city so thank you for all the work
that's been done there

879
01:17:58,679 --> 01:18:04,280
okay city manager report uh commissioner
Cole did you have any

880
01:18:02,280 --> 01:18:10,159
questions I don't think I have any
additional questions from the report no

881
01:18:08,280 --> 01:18:14,600
commissioner when do you have any
questions I did

882
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:20,760
not did you have anything that you
wanted to add to your

883
01:18:18,040 --> 01:18:28,040
report uh ju just a few things real
quick uh would like to mention that the

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01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:31,800
Maple Street project the uh drainage
project from Fourth Avenue to First

885
01:18:29,679 --> 01:18:36,920
Avenue hoping to have designs for that
here within the next couple weeks moving

886
01:18:33,719 --> 01:18:41,600
forward on that uh the water plant
project we're meeting next Monday with

887
01:18:38,719 --> 01:18:46,440
the engineers on that again to um to
help move forward on continue moving

888
01:18:43,120 --> 01:18:52,120
forward on that I would like to as has
already been been done uh thank Auburn

889
01:18:49,199 --> 01:18:57,960
Pharmacy and and uh its owner Mike Burns
for the airport upgrade a sign ific

890
01:18:55,199 --> 01:19:01,800
Improvement the uh new airport car or
airport vehicle that we have compared to

891
01:18:59,880 --> 01:19:07,480
our previous vehicle that we couldn't
even get started here earlier this week

892
01:19:03,679 --> 01:19:13,760
so certainly appreciate Auburn for for
that gracious donation um on the issue

893
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:17,920
of a trash truck that director Burkhart
was discussing earlier and and

894
01:19:15,600 --> 01:19:22,040
commissioner Gwen you brought up um that
is something that director Burkhart and

895
01:19:19,520 --> 01:19:26,440
I have been um discussing he's been
working with his staff uh to try and

896
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:32,560
find find some some good options on that
route and and it's something that in a

897
01:19:29,679 --> 01:19:35,360
lot of cases they'll find a good truck
that you know there was one here in

898
01:19:33,520 --> 01:19:40,239
Anderson County um that would have
worked terrific uh that would have been

899
01:19:37,199 --> 01:19:44,560
terrific it was a good price low mileage
good good operationally mechanically to

900
01:19:42,440 --> 01:19:48,880
my understanding uh but it sold awfully
quick so just wanting to make sure

901
01:19:46,360 --> 01:19:54,960
everybody is is uh on board with if we
find a a good truck that you know checks

902
01:19:52,600 --> 01:19:58,400
out mechanically and everything um for
us to go ahead and move forward on that

903
01:19:56,560 --> 01:20:03,639
purchase because likely we're not going
to be able to come back to you and

904
01:20:01,239 --> 01:20:07,840
request permission because you we wait
for the next meeting and we're going to

905
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:13,480
wind up um missing out on that vehicle
um so so everybody in agreement that if

906
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:18,560
if we find something that you're okay
with with going that

907
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:24,719
route I definitely am okay thank you
yeah uh

908
01:20:21,199 --> 01:20:31,840
the I did want to mention real quick um
on the Santa Cruz on the 19th uh if you

909
01:20:28,679 --> 01:20:36,360
would like to to uh be present be
involved I've asked City staff to try to

910
01:20:34,199 --> 01:20:40,639
be there um certainly we'd like to to
recognize you as the commission if you

911
01:20:38,440 --> 01:20:46,000
would like uh to to be there in any
fashion um I would like to see if we

912
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:53,800
could get approval from you to close Oak
Street on um on that date from around 5:

913
01:20:50,280 --> 01:20:59,080
to 8:00 P.M uh for that section of of
Road uh to be able to to block it off

914
01:20:56,719 --> 01:21:02,600
for that purpose I know that's something
that you know you're normally supportive

915
01:21:00,639 --> 01:21:09,800
of for those types of of events but
thought I'd seek your

916
01:21:05,320 --> 01:21:15,320
approval yes I'm okay with yeah I too
okay thank you all and I would also like

917
01:21:12,520 --> 01:21:19,920
to extend my gratitude and thanks to
both uh Chris Hicks and Susan wetstein

918
01:21:18,080 --> 01:21:24,159
for putting this together on such short
notice I know for Chris it was

919
01:21:22,239 --> 01:21:26,400
devastating that the chamber parade got
canceled

920
01:21:25,199 --> 01:21:32,320
um and all the work that she had put
into that was was nixed and so uh to be

921
01:21:30,080 --> 01:21:37,520
able to throw this together and and make
something positive happen I I certainly

922
01:21:34,120 --> 01:21:41,560
appreciate her efforts um so appreciate
both of you for for finding a way to to

923
01:21:39,480 --> 01:21:45,800
make something positive
here that's all I

924
01:21:43,679 --> 01:21:50,920
have thank
you citizens to be heard is there anyone

925
01:21:49,000 --> 01:21:54,880
who has any questions or comments that
they would like to come before the

926
01:21:51,880 --> 01:21:54,880
commission

927
01:21:56,360 --> 01:22:02,840
okay seeing none then I will go ahead
and make a motion to adjourn do I have

928
01:22:01,159 --> 01:22:08,080
it here a
second second I it's been moved and

929
01:22:05,920 --> 01:22:13,280
seconded all in favor say
I

930
01:22:10,120 --> 01:22:13,280
I I