1 00:09:48,560 --> 00:09:51,519 We will open with prayer led by 2 00:09:51,519 --> 00:09:52,880 Councilman Washington. 3 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,200 Thank you, Madam President. Let us bow. 4 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:56,880 Dear Lord, heavenly father, allow the 5 00:09:56,880 --> 00:09:58,640 words of our mouth, the meditations of 6 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,360 our heart. Lord, let them be acceptable 7 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,920 in your sight as we conduct business for 8 00:10:03,920 --> 00:10:05,519 the greatest city in this United States 9 00:10:05,519 --> 00:10:07,680 of America. That is Gary, Indiana. In 10 00:10:07,680 --> 00:10:09,360 the precious name of our Lord and Savior 11 00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:10,480 we pray. Amen. 12 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,320 Now stand with me for the pledge 13 00:10:12,320 --> 00:10:12,399 of 14 00:10:12,399 --> 00:10:21,190 allegiance 15 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:23,839 of the United States of America and to 16 00:10:23,839 --> 00:10:26,640 the republic for which it stands. One 17 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:30,000 nation under God, indivisible with 18 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:44,310 liberty and justice for all. 19 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:48,000 Roll call. Madam cler. 20 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,880 Councilwoman Brown. 21 00:10:50,880 --> 00:10:52,320 Councilwoman Cwell. 22 00:10:52,320 --> 00:10:55,829 Present. 23 00:10:55,839 --> 00:10:59,040 Councilman Hallebertton. 24 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:00,560 Councilwoman Ivy. 25 00:11:00,560 --> 00:11:01,519 Present. 26 00:11:01,519 --> 00:11:02,800 Councilman Toiver. 27 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:05,279 Present. Councilman Washington 28 00:11:05,279 --> 00:11:06,160 present. 29 00:11:06,160 --> 00:11:07,440 Councilman Wington 30 00:11:07,440 --> 00:11:08,399 present. 31 00:11:08,399 --> 00:11:10,800 Councilman Williams 32 00:11:10,800 --> 00:11:11,839 president 33 00:11:11,839 --> 00:11:13,440 present. 34 00:11:13,440 --> 00:11:16,800 President there are seven present two ab 35 00:11:16,800 --> 00:11:18,959 with seven present and two absent. The 36 00:11:18,959 --> 00:11:21,600 Gary comment council has a form to do 37 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,600 business in the city of Gary. 38 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:25,279 Colleagues, you have before you the 39 00:11:25,279 --> 00:11:28,320 minutes of our previous meeting. Is 40 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:31,120 there a motion for acceptance? 41 00:11:31,120 --> 00:11:32,079 So move. 42 00:11:32,079 --> 00:11:34,800 Second. It's been moved and second that 43 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,800 we accept the minutes of our previous 44 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:39,920 meeting. Any discussion? 45 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:41,279 Roll call. Madam clerk. 46 00:11:41,279 --> 00:11:42,480 Councilwoman Brown. 47 00:11:42,480 --> 00:11:43,200 Yes. 48 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:44,640 Councilwoman Cwell. 49 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:45,760 Yes. 50 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:47,920 Councilman Ivy. Councilwoman Ivy. 51 00:11:47,920 --> 00:11:48,560 Yes. 52 00:11:48,560 --> 00:11:49,839 Councilman Toiver. 53 00:11:49,839 --> 00:11:50,320 Yes. 54 00:11:50,320 --> 00:11:51,600 Councilman Washington. 55 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:52,160 Yes. 56 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:53,440 Councilman Wissington. 57 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:53,760 Yes. 58 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:55,040 And President Lincoln. 59 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:55,839 Yes. 60 00:11:55,839 --> 00:11:57,440 President for the 61 00:11:57,440 --> 00:12:01,590 with the vote of 720. 62 00:12:01,600 --> 00:12:04,079 Our minutes of the previous meeting have 63 00:12:04,079 --> 00:12:06,240 been accepted and are so ordered. 64 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,079 Assignment of council pending ordinances 65 00:12:08,079 --> 00:12:11,279 and resolutions on first reading. CPO 66 00:12:11,279 --> 00:12:13,760 2025-44, 67 00:12:13,760 --> 00:12:14,880 an ordinance providing for 68 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:16,240 appropriations in the building 69 00:12:16,240 --> 00:12:19,680 renovations fund for the fiscal year 70 00:12:19,680 --> 00:12:21,279 20226 71 00:12:21,279 --> 00:12:23,279 expenses and forwarding to the common 72 00:12:23,279 --> 00:12:25,920 council for action and passage 73 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:31,190 pursuant to IC 6-1.1-18-6 74 00:12:31,200 --> 00:12:33,200 sponsored by Mayor Eddie Melton city 75 00:12:33,200 --> 00:12:35,440 gear lead city patrol 76 00:12:35,440 --> 00:12:36,720 finance 77 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,760 CPL 2025-45 78 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,600 in order to establish a fund for the 79 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,480 city of Gary and Hard Rock Casino 80 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,480 matches for the Lake County Convention 81 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,560 Center and providing for additional 82 00:12:48,560 --> 00:12:50,880 appropriations in the casino operating 83 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:54,639 fund for the fiscal year 2025 expenses 84 00:12:54,639 --> 00:12:56,320 and forwarded to the common council for 85 00:12:56,320 --> 00:12:58,720 action and passage pursuant to Indiana 86 00:12:58,720 --> 00:13:02,470 code 6-1.1-8-6 87 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:04,560 sponsored by Mayor Eddie Melton city 88 00:13:04,560 --> 00:13:06,240 garrison city control 89 00:13:06,240 --> 00:13:07,519 finance 90 00:13:07,519 --> 00:13:10,639 CPL 2020 25-46 91 00:13:10,639 --> 00:13:12,720 an ordinance provided for the transfer 92 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:15,519 appropriations between series for the 93 00:13:15,519 --> 00:13:18,399 Gary city court for fiscal year 2025 94 00:13:18,399 --> 00:13:20,240 budget and forwarded to the common 95 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,880 council for action and passage pursuant 96 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:27,430 to Indiana code 6-1.1-18-6 97 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,200 sponsored by mayor Eddie Melton city of 98 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,920 Gary city green city controller and 99 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,399 judge DL Monroe Gary city court 100 00:13:34,399 --> 00:13:36,000 finance 101 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:39,120 mad President. 102 00:13:39,120 --> 00:13:41,279 Thank you, 103 00:13:41,279 --> 00:13:49,590 Councilwoman Brown. 104 00:13:49,600 --> 00:13:51,519 Excuse me, Councilwoman Brown. I would 105 00:13:51,519 --> 00:13:53,519 like to to acknowledge and let the 106 00:13:53,519 --> 00:13:56,160 record reflect that Councilman Dwayne 107 00:13:56,160 --> 00:14:00,320 Howard is present for the meeting. 108 00:14:00,320 --> 00:14:03,040 Thank you. The finance committee has 109 00:14:03,040 --> 00:14:07,040 before CPO 202544. 110 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,120 For the record, I approve this ordinance 111 00:14:09,120 --> 00:14:11,279 for reporting out to the council. 112 00:14:11,279 --> 00:14:12,800 Councilwoman Caldwell, 113 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,760 yes. And Counciloman, 114 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:16,240 yes. 115 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:17,839 Madame President, a majority of the 116 00:14:17,839 --> 00:14:20,639 finance committee has approved CPO 117 00:14:20,639 --> 00:14:22,959 202544 118 00:14:22,959 --> 00:14:25,279 for reporting out to the council. The 119 00:14:25,279 --> 00:14:30,399 finance committee has before CPO 202545. 120 00:14:30,399 --> 00:14:32,399 For the record, I approve this ordinance 121 00:14:32,399 --> 00:14:34,399 for reporting out to the council. 122 00:14:34,399 --> 00:14:35,920 Councilwoman Cwell, 123 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:36,320 yes. 124 00:14:36,320 --> 00:14:37,839 And Councilman Wington, 125 00:14:37,839 --> 00:14:38,399 yes. 126 00:14:38,399 --> 00:14:40,240 Madame President, a majority of the 127 00:14:40,240 --> 00:14:42,800 finance committee has approved CPO 128 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:45,040 202545 129 00:14:45,040 --> 00:14:47,839 for reporting out to council. The 130 00:14:47,839 --> 00:14:52,880 finance committee has before CPO 202546. 131 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:54,800 For the record, I approve this ordinance 132 00:14:54,800 --> 00:14:56,720 for reporting after the council. 133 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:58,320 Counciloman Caldwell, 134 00:14:58,320 --> 00:14:58,720 yes. 135 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:00,399 And Councilman Wilson, 136 00:15:00,399 --> 00:15:00,959 yes. 137 00:15:00,959 --> 00:15:02,800 Madam President, a majority of the 138 00:15:02,800 --> 00:15:05,519 finance committee has approved CPO 139 00:15:05,519 --> 00:15:07,839 202546 140 00:15:07,839 --> 00:15:10,240 for reporting out to 141 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:14,870 Thank you, Councilwoman Brown. 142 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,360 Now the finance committee has to report 143 00:15:17,360 --> 00:15:21,430 CPO 202544 144 00:15:21,440 --> 00:15:22,959 2545 145 00:15:22,959 --> 00:15:25,279 and 2546 146 00:15:25,279 --> 00:15:27,920 for reporting out to the council. 147 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,279 Thank you Brown. 148 00:15:31,279 --> 00:15:33,920 At this time any members for special 149 00:15:33,920 --> 00:15:35,680 elect? 150 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:37,279 Yes. 151 00:15:37,279 --> 00:15:39,199 Councilwoman Brown. 152 00:15:39,199 --> 00:15:42,480 Okay. First of all, I'd like to 153 00:15:42,480 --> 00:15:46,000 acknowledge the 16 weeks of summer where 154 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:47,839 you have an opportunity to meet 155 00:15:47,839 --> 00:15:52,320 Councilwoman Brown. That's me, y'all. 156 00:15:52,320 --> 00:15:55,440 That's on Wednesday, August 20th from 157 00:15:55,440 --> 00:15:58,880 300 p.m. to 6:00 p.m. That's in Talison 158 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:02,480 Park in the third district at 1709 Elour 159 00:16:02,480 --> 00:16:06,720 Street Place, I'm sorry. And 160 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,199 I'd like to announce the the third 161 00:16:09,199 --> 00:16:13,040 district has had a community meeting for 162 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,079 some time and so we're going to have one 163 00:16:16,079 --> 00:16:20,560 on Monday, August the 11th at 5:00 p.m. 164 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:23,519 at Talston Park Pavilion. Our special 165 00:16:23,519 --> 00:16:27,040 guests will be the Chief Derek Canon of 166 00:16:27,040 --> 00:16:30,480 the Gary Police Department, Miss Gerald 167 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,519 Williams, directors of Gary Farms, and 168 00:16:33,519 --> 00:16:36,240 County Councilman Ron Brewer from the 169 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:40,399 second district. And our other 170 00:16:40,399 --> 00:16:42,480 uh special guest will be councilman at 171 00:16:42,480 --> 00:16:44,560 large miles. 172 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:47,040 So anyone is welcome to come. We look 173 00:16:47,040 --> 00:16:49,839 forward to seeing you as again and I 174 00:16:49,839 --> 00:16:53,600 said Monday, August the 11th at 5:00 175 00:16:53,600 --> 00:16:56,160 p.m. at Charlton Park Pavilion and this 176 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:57,680 will be the first community meeting 177 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,920 we've had for quite some time. So I'm 178 00:16:59,920 --> 00:17:02,160 looking forward to residents coming out. 179 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:03,600 Thank you, Madam President. 180 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,039 Thank you, Councilwoman Brown. 181 00:17:05,039 --> 00:17:08,400 Councilwoman Barnes Cwell. 182 00:17:08,400 --> 00:17:12,480 Good evening. Please join Councilwoman 183 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:15,839 Caldwell in the fifth district community 184 00:17:15,839 --> 00:17:20,079 forum Monday, August the 25th at 5:30 at 185 00:17:20,079 --> 00:17:23,679 Rosville Park Pavilion, 2145 Harrison 186 00:17:23,679 --> 00:17:26,079 Street, Perry, Indiana. Our special 187 00:17:26,079 --> 00:17:29,039 guests will be 188 00:17:29,039 --> 00:17:32,160 Congressman Craig Maran, State Senator 189 00:17:32,160 --> 00:17:35,120 Mark Spencer, State Representative Dr. 190 00:17:35,120 --> 00:17:38,080 Bernie G. Smith, Lake Councilman Ronald 191 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:42,559 Gore and I believe representative 192 00:17:42,559 --> 00:17:45,200 Reagan Hatch. We'll have legislative 193 00:17:45,200 --> 00:17:48,320 updates will be presented. So please 194 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:51,280 join us Monday, August the 25th at 5:30 195 00:17:51,280 --> 00:17:53,520 at Roosevelt building. Thank you. 196 00:17:53,520 --> 00:17:55,679 Councilwoman Mars Cwell 197 00:17:55,679 --> 00:17:56,240 President. 198 00:17:56,240 --> 00:18:09,110 Councilman Hallebertton. 199 00:18:09,120 --> 00:18:11,280 also like to har on what my colleague 200 00:18:11,280 --> 00:18:13,840 stated about the 16 weeks of summer. Uh 201 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,480 you can meet me on Wednesday, August 6 202 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:21,120 at from 3:00 to 6:00 p.m. at this park. 203 00:18:21,120 --> 00:18:22,720 Um 204 00:18:22,720 --> 00:18:26,240 it's the city of Gary 16 week meet up 205 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,679 and please stop by for on-site resources 206 00:18:29,679 --> 00:18:32,640 and services. That will be Wednesday, 207 00:18:32,640 --> 00:18:35,600 August 6 between 300 p.m. and 6 pm. Tell 208 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:38,240 everyone that Brownsburg Park Councilman 209 00:18:38,240 --> 00:18:40,160 Hallebert will be there as well as 210 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,720 Sydney Gary. Thank you. 211 00:18:42,720 --> 00:18:45,120 Councilman Hallebertton. 212 00:18:45,120 --> 00:18:46,640 Councilman Toiver. 213 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:49,360 Um, yes. I would like to on behalf of 214 00:18:49,360 --> 00:18:51,120 myself and the Gary County Council, I 215 00:18:51,120 --> 00:18:52,720 want to wish everybody a great school 216 00:18:52,720 --> 00:18:55,200 year. I know 21st century started today 217 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:56,720 and I know that the other schools will 218 00:18:56,720 --> 00:18:58,080 be starting. So, I want to give 219 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:00,000 everybody uh wishing them the best this 220 00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:01,520 year. make sure we get that work done. 221 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,280 And from our seniors, figure out what 222 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:05,919 you want to do postsecary education or 223 00:19:05,919 --> 00:19:07,280 whatever you want to do in life, make 224 00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:09,600 sure you have a plan because the time is 225 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:11,120 of the essence. We have to make sure 226 00:19:11,120 --> 00:19:13,440 that you have those career opportunities 227 00:19:13,440 --> 00:19:15,679 at your hands. So, want to wish them a 228 00:19:15,679 --> 00:19:16,960 great school year. 229 00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:19,840 Thank you, Councilman Oliver. 230 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:23,200 Any other members specialist? 231 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,720 We have two August birthdays. the Gary 232 00:19:26,720 --> 00:19:31,120 Common Council. Um, our own 233 00:19:31,120 --> 00:19:34,720 the voice of the Gary Common Council, 234 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:36,880 Cam Reynolds, Your birthday's in August, 235 00:19:36,880 --> 00:19:39,039 right? Has an August birthday. So, we 236 00:19:39,039 --> 00:19:42,320 wish you a happy birthday. 237 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,559 And then in his absence, Councilman 238 00:19:44,559 --> 00:19:46,960 Dwight Williams also has a birthday in 239 00:19:46,960 --> 00:19:50,880 August on the 22nd. So, we wish Miss Kim 240 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,919 Clerk, Madame Deputy Clerk Reynolds, as 241 00:19:53,919 --> 00:19:56,080 well as our Councilman Williams a very 242 00:19:56,080 --> 00:19:58,799 happy birthday. And then on August the 243 00:19:58,799 --> 00:20:01,200 26th at 5:00 p.m., the air pollution 244 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:03,360 advisory committee will be meeting here 245 00:20:03,360 --> 00:20:06,160 at the Gary Public Library. We have 246 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:09,039 received notice of a number of air 247 00:20:09,039 --> 00:20:12,720 polluting permits from the NIPCO, the 248 00:20:12,720 --> 00:20:15,840 Gary Etna Indiana operating center, from 249 00:20:15,840 --> 00:20:19,840 the US Steel Corporation at Gary Works, 250 00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:23,840 from Carmoose Lime Incorporated are the 251 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:27,600 three just this month. The um comment 252 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,480 period on these applications are open 253 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:33,200 and more information about the uh 254 00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,520 applications have been placed here at 255 00:20:35,520 --> 00:20:37,360 the Gary Public Library and can be 256 00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:39,520 accessible here. But we will talk more 257 00:20:39,520 --> 00:20:42,720 about these permits on August the 26th 258 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:46,000 at 5:00 PM at the Gary Public Library, 259 00:20:46,000 --> 00:20:49,350 this branch. 260 00:20:49,360 --> 00:20:50,559 Councilman Washington. 261 00:20:50,559 --> 00:20:52,480 Thank you, Madam President. Um, I'd like 262 00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,240 to thank the public who came out to the 263 00:20:56,240 --> 00:20:59,280 Gary Planning Commission's um meeting 264 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:02,000 where the a draft of the comprehensive 265 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,760 plan was presented um before the public 266 00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:08,880 um was presented by MKSK 267 00:21:08,880 --> 00:21:11,840 planning director Corey Sharp um with an 268 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:15,200 excellent job in presenting. Um we are 269 00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:17,360 going to have a public meeting with the 270 00:21:17,360 --> 00:21:18,720 planning and development committee 271 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,799 meeting on August 12th at 5:30 here um 272 00:21:22,799 --> 00:21:25,200 at the Gary Public Library so the 273 00:21:25,200 --> 00:21:27,760 comprehensive plan can be presented to 274 00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:30,799 the common council. Um it was a great 275 00:21:30,799 --> 00:21:32,799 opportunity. under Madam President was 276 00:21:32,799 --> 00:21:34,960 there and it was a great opportunity to 277 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,120 see the different properties and what 278 00:21:37,120 --> 00:21:39,440 the administration has come up with on 279 00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,840 how we're going to strategically plan um 280 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,919 to get our city's properties in order 281 00:21:43,919 --> 00:21:45,600 and to be able to get them back on the 282 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:47,600 tax roles. I want to say congratulations 283 00:21:47,600 --> 00:21:49,120 to the mayor and his staff, especially 284 00:21:49,120 --> 00:21:52,960 Corey um Sharp and Attorney Molina and 285 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,039 um the planning commission who was in 286 00:21:55,039 --> 00:21:58,159 attendance also had a great um time that 287 00:21:58,159 --> 00:22:00,559 evening. Thank you, Madam President. 288 00:22:00,559 --> 00:22:02,960 Thank you, Councilman Washington. Any 289 00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:09,510 other members for specialt 290 00:22:09,520 --> 00:22:13,600 12 at 5:30 and that's in case you decide 291 00:22:13,600 --> 00:22:16,000 tonight that you want to have your 292 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,640 budget and finance your finance meeting 293 00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:21,120 on the 12th on Tuesday. You do it at 294 00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:23,760 5:00. 295 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:28,950 Hint hint. 296 00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:29,679 Thank you. 297 00:22:29,679 --> 00:22:30,799 You're welcome. 298 00:22:30,799 --> 00:22:32,159 Thank you. Any other colleagues for 299 00:22:32,159 --> 00:22:34,320 specialists elect? 300 00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:35,919 Seeing none, we have come to the space 301 00:22:35,919 --> 00:22:38,880 in our agenda for public comment. 302 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:40,559 We have three signed up to speak 303 00:22:40,559 --> 00:22:43,840 tonight. You have two minutes to speak. 304 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:46,480 Our parliamentarian, Linda Barnes Cwell, 305 00:22:46,480 --> 00:22:49,520 will be keeping time. This is usually 306 00:22:49,520 --> 00:22:52,000 not a question and answer period. It's 307 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,080 an opportunity for the public to make 308 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,840 comments. However, um especially when 309 00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,480 questions, comments pertain to city 310 00:23:00,480 --> 00:23:03,200 services, we have members of the 311 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:05,120 administration who are here who may be 312 00:23:05,120 --> 00:23:07,039 able to answer your questions. At this 313 00:23:07,039 --> 00:23:08,960 time, all members of the administration, 314 00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,190 can you please raise your hand? 315 00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:16,320 All right, we'll start with Marsha 316 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,520 Coleman, followed by Mrs. Linda Collins 317 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:25,909 Brown. Welcome. And then 318 00:23:25,919 --> 00:23:31,190 Oh, Brian and Bonnie look. 319 00:23:31,200 --> 00:23:33,760 Welcome, Miss Coleman. Thank you. Okay, 320 00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:35,919 I'll be to the point 321 00:23:35,919 --> 00:23:37,120 closer to the mic. 322 00:23:37,120 --> 00:23:37,520 Can you hear? 323 00:23:37,520 --> 00:23:39,679 Make sure your mic is on. 324 00:23:39,679 --> 00:23:42,000 Text test. Okay, awesome. Okay, I have 325 00:23:42,000 --> 00:23:43,600 two questions. The first what I I'll 326 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:46,240 deal with um for some of my elderly 327 00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:47,360 neighbors they're kind of concerned 328 00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:50,159 about reporting issues fearing that if 329 00:23:50,159 --> 00:23:52,080 they call the police that sometimes the 330 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:53,679 police will go to that neighbor say hey 331 00:23:53,679 --> 00:23:55,360 you know so and so called on you so 332 00:23:55,360 --> 00:23:56,880 because of that I guess that's things 333 00:23:56,880 --> 00:23:58,880 that's happened in the past I don't know 334 00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,880 they feel they cannot report an issue so 335 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,080 is there any way they can report 336 00:24:02,080 --> 00:24:04,960 anonymously let's say the Gary 311 apps 337 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:06,720 I know I know about it but I don't know 338 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:08,960 if they do so how do they report issues 339 00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,640 anonymously that's the first question 340 00:24:10,640 --> 00:24:12,480 and then keep going Yes. 341 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,480 Okay. Great. Okay. The second concern 342 00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:16,240 had to do with aggressive dog and I must 343 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:18,000 compliment Congressman Hallebert and 344 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,840 he's been very instrumental in assisting 345 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,679 me in this matter. Jesus name. 346 00:24:23,679 --> 00:24:25,919 The reason being um I don't have any 347 00:24:25,919 --> 00:24:27,279 pets in the house because we have people 348 00:24:27,279 --> 00:24:28,960 with severe allergies. But yet I've been 349 00:24:28,960 --> 00:24:31,279 around dogs and this dog is kind of 350 00:24:31,279 --> 00:24:33,120 different. There's a gate separating us. 351 00:24:33,120 --> 00:24:34,799 However, because we have a detached 352 00:24:34,799 --> 00:24:36,320 garage and I have to walk from the 353 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:38,880 garage to my house across the patio. 354 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,039 this dog is kind of aggressive when like 355 00:24:41,039 --> 00:24:43,039 it's trying to rush the gate basically 356 00:24:43,039 --> 00:24:45,360 and it's drooling what have you. So of 357 00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:46,720 course I brought it to um Councilman 358 00:24:46,720 --> 00:24:48,159 Halleberg's attention. He told me of 359 00:24:48,159 --> 00:24:49,600 course not too much can be done because 360 00:24:49,600 --> 00:24:52,080 the dog was in the gate. It has to be 361 00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:54,480 out and about. I heard stories but 362 00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:56,799 because I couldn't verify I couldn't do 363 00:24:56,799 --> 00:25:00,159 anything. However, this past Saturday 364 00:25:00,159 --> 00:25:02,960 when I went out and this time stamp on 365 00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:04,880 my phone I was actually about to go out 366 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:06,159 my front door because I could no longer 367 00:25:06,159 --> 00:25:08,480 park in my garage because of this dog. 368 00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:10,320 So when I went out my front door, I 369 00:25:10,320 --> 00:25:12,080 opened my drakes. That dog was walking 370 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,559 around the neighborhood and he's a very 371 00:25:14,559 --> 00:25:17,200 big dog. So I went ahead, I did the Gary 372 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:20,159 311 app and also I did report it to my 373 00:25:20,159 --> 00:25:22,960 counselor as well. Um the questions and 374 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,279 comments I have cuz the homeowner, my 375 00:25:25,279 --> 00:25:27,039 mother and I were kind of discussing 376 00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:29,600 this and I hopefully I can find all 377 00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:31,440 these questions. Of course can't find 378 00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:32,799 them when I need. 379 00:25:32,799 --> 00:25:34,559 All right. As far as do we have any laws 380 00:25:34,559 --> 00:25:36,960 and Gary as far as Miss Coleman that's 381 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,039 two minutes but I'll ask our chief of 382 00:25:39,039 --> 00:25:42,080 staff to address the anonymous tip line 383 00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,760 as well as reaching out to animal 384 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:48,230 control during his report. 385 00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,720 Mrs. Linda Collins Brown. Welcome. 386 00:25:50,720 --> 00:25:52,559 Thank you. 387 00:25:52,559 --> 00:25:54,480 Good evening council. 388 00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:56,720 I do appreciate the time afforded me to 389 00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,360 speak before you today. I do so with a 390 00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:03,120 heavy heart. I'm disappointed and I feel 391 00:26:03,120 --> 00:26:05,520 a little bit of anger. I wish the 392 00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:08,159 council would explain to us the citizens 393 00:26:08,159 --> 00:26:10,799 of Gary and trust me and believe me what 394 00:26:10,799 --> 00:26:14,320 I know that Dr. Vanessa Allen Mloud's 395 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:17,039 tenure was up. I know all of that and I 396 00:26:17,039 --> 00:26:19,360 do know that the city council has the 397 00:26:19,360 --> 00:26:23,120 right to uh reappoint someone at their 398 00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:25,840 discretion. However, I've been around a 399 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,159 very very long time. been involved with 400 00:26:28,159 --> 00:26:31,200 the Gary school board uh meetings and 401 00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,960 taking my children to meetings and the 402 00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:36,159 whole nine yards since the early 80s and 403 00:26:36,159 --> 00:26:39,440 the council the board that we had with 404 00:26:39,440 --> 00:26:43,279 Dr. Vanessa Alan Mloud was by far the 405 00:26:43,279 --> 00:26:48,880 best one that we've had in a very very long time. So I am so extremely 406 00:26:48,880 --> 00:26:51,039 disappointed. You know, the city is 407 00:26:51,039 --> 00:26:53,039 moving forward in the right direction, 408 00:26:53,039 --> 00:26:55,200 and I applaud the mayor and his entire 409 00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,919 administration. Our school is getting 410 00:26:57,919 --> 00:27:00,000 back on track and was headed in the 411 00:27:00,000 --> 00:27:02,320 right direction. I think that was a very 412 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,039 poor move. And I do believe now it's 413 00:27:05,039 --> 00:27:08,400 rumored that it was in retaliation 414 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:11,840 because um a person on the city council 415 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,960 felt the need to complain because they 416 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,679 were parked in an illegal parking spot, 417 00:27:17,679 --> 00:27:21,120 a fire zone and nothing was done about 418 00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:24,640 it. She felt he or she felt the need to 419 00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:27,679 complain because she felt that or he 420 00:27:27,679 --> 00:27:30,480 that it should it's okay, but it isn't. 421 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:34,559 It's a fire hazard. It's illegal, okay? 422 00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:37,600 And it's wrong. So, we must abide by the 423 00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,840 rules and we must set examples for our 424 00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:42,159 young people. And to the young people on 425 00:27:42,159 --> 00:27:44,880 the city council, stand firm with what 426 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:48,320 you believe to be right. And I support, 427 00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:50,559 you know, us going back, rethinking 428 00:27:50,559 --> 00:27:53,360 this, and then putting Dr. Mloud back on 429 00:27:53,360 --> 00:27:55,520 that board. Thank you. I appreciate the 430 00:27:55,520 --> 00:27:56,559 time. 431 00:27:56,559 --> 00:27:59,360 Thank you, Mrs. College Brown, 432 00:27:59,360 --> 00:28:08,470 Brian, and Bonnie Luick. 433 00:28:08,480 --> 00:28:11,120 Hi. Hi. My husband stepped out. He had a 434 00:28:11,120 --> 00:28:12,399 tickle in his throat and I don't know 435 00:28:12,399 --> 00:28:14,559 why I signed the paper to talk. We're 436 00:28:14,559 --> 00:28:16,399 just here to get reszoned. 437 00:28:16,399 --> 00:28:16,880 Thank you. 438 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:18,080 So, thanks for having us. 439 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:22,230 Thank you. 440 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:24,320 to everyone who came to speak. 441 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:26,399 At this time, you will hear our council 442 00:28:26,399 --> 00:28:28,399 pending ordinances and resolutions on 443 00:28:28,399 --> 00:28:35,269 third and or final read. 444 00:28:35,279 --> 00:28:38,799 CPL 2025-41 445 00:28:38,799 --> 00:28:40,240 or learners of viewing a special use 446 00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,120 permit for property located at 1040 447 00:28:43,120 --> 00:28:45,279 North Union Street to be used as a 448 00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:47,360 short-term rental property by 449 00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:49,679 petitioners Jason and Tanya Platt 450 00:28:49,679 --> 00:28:51,679 sponsored by the Arizona department 451 00:28:51,679 --> 00:28:54,480 petition Jason and Tanya Platt 1040 452 00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:56,320 North Street near him 453 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:57,919 colleagues at this time I'll entertain a 454 00:28:57,919 --> 00:29:00,799 motion for a appro 455 00:29:00,799 --> 00:29:07,669 I'm sorry. Is there a motion on 2022- 456 00:29:07,679 --> 00:29:13,510 attorney Molina is doing the overview? 457 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,360 Good evening, President Leam and council 458 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:19,360 members. Uh on this uh CPO 2025-41, it 459 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:22,480 is for a short-term uh rental uh special 460 00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:25,440 use at 1040 North Union Street. Um, as 461 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,120 we discussed at the, uh, committee 462 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,919 meeting, uh, last, uh, this came before 463 00:29:29,919 --> 00:29:33,919 the BZA on June 12th, 2025, and it 464 00:29:33,919 --> 00:29:35,760 received a unanimous vote, uh, to 465 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,360 favorably recommend the grant of a 466 00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:40,640 special use permit. Uh, it had been duly 467 00:29:40,640 --> 00:29:43,679 uh, publicized. Uh, a public hearing was 468 00:29:43,679 --> 00:29:46,240 held. There were no remmonstrators and 469 00:29:46,240 --> 00:29:48,960 the board of zoning appeals felt that 470 00:29:48,960 --> 00:29:51,440 this uh property uh did indeed meet the 471 00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,240 seven requirements uh that we have as uh 472 00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:57,200 part of our ordinances uh for a special 473 00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,399 use permit to be granted. Um it is zoned 474 00:30:00,399 --> 00:30:03,600 uh residential uh and it will remain as 475 00:30:03,600 --> 00:30:05,760 residential use as a short-term rental 476 00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:08,320 property if it is approved. If there's 477 00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:09,520 any questions certainly happy to 478 00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,279 entertain those and the petitioners are 479 00:30:11,279 --> 00:30:12,960 present. 480 00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,600 Thank you, Attorney Molina. 481 00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,000 Any questions, comments, discussion from 482 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:23,430 colleagues? 483 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:37,750 Seeing none, roll call. Madam cler, 484 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:39,840 we can read. Can you repeat it? it. 485 00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:43,760 We're voting on CPO 2025-41. 486 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:45,760 Uh yes, it's for a short-term rental uh 487 00:30:45,760 --> 00:30:48,399 special use at 1040 uh North Union 488 00:30:48,399 --> 00:30:50,399 Street. 489 00:30:50,399 --> 00:30:53,919 And I'll just say um the there's a 490 00:30:53,919 --> 00:31:01,029 motion on the floor. 491 00:31:01,039 --> 00:31:03,679 Does anyone object? I'll just give bit 492 00:31:03,679 --> 00:31:06,159 of an overview. Jason and Tanya Plant 493 00:31:06,159 --> 00:31:08,240 were both Platt were both at the 494 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:10,480 planning and development 495 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,120 committee meeting. Um I believe this is 496 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:15,360 the pastor and pastor's wife who bought 497 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,919 a piece of property who will be here 498 00:31:17,919 --> 00:31:21,360 shortterm and plan to retire here once 499 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:25,120 they retire from their church and the parsonage 500 00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:33,510 the stands. 501 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:35,360 All right. Roll call. Madam clerk. 502 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:36,480 Councilwoman Brown. 503 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,720 Yes. Councilwoman Cwell, 504 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,080 pass. 505 00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:41,279 Councilman Hallebert, 506 00:31:41,279 --> 00:31:42,159 yes. 507 00:31:42,159 --> 00:31:43,679 Councilwoman Ivy, 508 00:31:43,679 --> 00:31:44,559 yes. 509 00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:46,159 Councilman Talib, 510 00:31:46,159 --> 00:31:46,880 yes. 511 00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:48,159 Councilman Washington, 512 00:31:48,159 --> 00:31:48,799 yes. 513 00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:50,080 Councilman Wington, 514 00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:50,960 yes. 515 00:31:50,960 --> 00:31:53,120 Councilwoman Cwell, 516 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:54,480 yes. 517 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:55,679 President, 518 00:31:55,679 --> 00:31:56,480 yes. 519 00:31:56,480 --> 00:31:58,399 Madam President, vote is 8 to Z. 520 00:31:58,399 --> 00:32:02,000 With a vote of 8 to 0, CPO 2025-41 521 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:07,519 is passed in so order. CBO 2025-42 522 00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:09,519 an ordinance for resing property located 523 00:32:09,519 --> 00:32:13,600 at 5339 West 15th Avenue Gary Indiana by 524 00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,919 petitioner Robert L. Lewis sponsored by 525 00:32:15,919 --> 00:32:18,159 the Gary plan commission petitioner 526 00:32:18,159 --> 00:32:20,720 Robert L. Lewis on behalf of buying 527 00:32:20,720 --> 00:32:22,240 saving corporate. 528 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:23,440 Madam President, 529 00:32:23,440 --> 00:32:24,320 Councilman Washington, 530 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:28,320 I make a motion to refer CPO 2025-42 531 00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:29,840 back to the planning and development 532 00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:30,640 committee 533 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,600 with the meeting scheduled for Tuesday, 534 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:37,760 August 12th, 2025 at 5:30 p.m. The 535 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:39,840 petitioner in order the petitioner's 536 00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:41,440 representative show for the planning and 537 00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,279 development committee. 538 00:32:43,279 --> 00:32:45,360 Thank you, Council Washington. It's been 539 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:49,039 moved and second that CPO 2025-42 is 540 00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:51,600 referred back to community to committee. 541 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,360 Roll call. Madam cler. 542 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:54,640 Councilwoman Brown. 543 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:55,360 Yes. 544 00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:56,720 Councilwoman Cwell. 545 00:32:56,720 --> 00:32:57,360 Yes. 546 00:32:57,360 --> 00:32:58,480 Councilman Hallebert. 547 00:32:58,480 --> 00:32:59,120 Yes. 548 00:32:59,120 --> 00:33:00,320 Councilwoman Ivy. 549 00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:00,880 Yes. 550 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:02,080 Councilman Toiver. 551 00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:02,559 Yes. 552 00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:03,760 Councilman Washington. 553 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:04,559 Yes. 554 00:33:04,559 --> 00:33:05,760 Councilman Weston. 555 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:06,159 Yes. 556 00:33:06,159 --> 00:33:07,440 And President Leo. 557 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:07,840 Yes. 558 00:33:07,840 --> 00:33:09,840 Madam President, the vote is 8 to Z. 559 00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:13,600 With a vote of 8 to zero, CPO 2025-42 560 00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,399 has been referred back to committee. 561 00:33:16,399 --> 00:33:19,039 CPO 2025-43, 562 00:33:19,039 --> 00:33:20,640 an ordinance for reszoning property 563 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,600 located at 925 North Shelby, Gary, 564 00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,320 Indiana by petitioner Brian Luick, 565 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,640 sponsored by Gary Zoning Department. 566 00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:39,110 Petition Brian Lew 925 Shelby Street. 567 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:40,720 Colleagues, at this time I'll entertain 568 00:33:40,720 --> 00:33:42,720 a motion. 569 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,360 It's been moved by Councilman Lisson. 570 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:48,640 Second by Councilman Washington. 571 00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,480 Overview, 572 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:51,039 please. 573 00:33:51,039 --> 00:33:54,080 Yes. On the 2025-43, 574 00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:55,200 uh we're dealing with the property at 575 00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,000 925 North Shelby Street. Uh, petitioner 576 00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:00,799 Brian Luick has petitioned uh the plan 577 00:34:00,799 --> 00:34:02,880 commission for a reszone. There was a 578 00:34:02,880 --> 00:34:06,000 public hearing held on June 18, 2025. 579 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,040 Um, a unanimous vote uh recommended that 580 00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:10,960 uh the reszone be granted. It's 581 00:34:10,960 --> 00:34:14,560 currently reszoned as a B1. Um, and 582 00:34:14,560 --> 00:34:17,280 they're seeking a reszone to a B3 which 583 00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:19,359 allows for a full service restaurant. U, 584 00:34:19,359 --> 00:34:21,919 that was the issue. Um it did it 585 00:34:21,919 --> 00:34:23,919 basically B1 is limited as a retail 586 00:34:23,919 --> 00:34:26,480 district um more for cafes and things 587 00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:28,079 like that and this is a full service 588 00:34:28,079 --> 00:34:31,839 restaurant. Um at the public hearing uh 589 00:34:31,839 --> 00:34:34,399 there were no remmonstrators against uh 590 00:34:34,399 --> 00:34:36,159 there were two people who showed up to 591 00:34:36,159 --> 00:34:39,359 speak in favor um of having more dining 592 00:34:39,359 --> 00:34:41,839 options in the area. Uh if you recall 593 00:34:41,839 --> 00:34:45,440 Mr. was at the uh committee meeting uh 594 00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:49,919 last and explained his uh vision for the 595 00:34:49,919 --> 00:34:51,760 restaurant. Uh they have complied with 596 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,679 everything that we have asked from the 597 00:34:53,679 --> 00:34:55,520 planning department. Uh there was a 598 00:34:55,520 --> 00:34:57,680 question raised about uh parking and 599 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,119 whether they had enough spots. They do 600 00:34:59,119 --> 00:35:01,599 indeed qualify under our ordinance uh 601 00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:04,720 and do have enough spots. Um, so, uh, 602 00:35:04,720 --> 00:35:07,200 the city, uh, the plan commission is 603 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:08,720 asking that this, uh, receive a 604 00:35:08,720 --> 00:35:10,240 favorable recommendation from the city 605 00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:15,200 or approval from the, uh, council. 606 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,680 Thank you, Attorney Molina. Any 607 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,760 questions or discussions, 608 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:20,880 Madam President? 609 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:23,040 Councilwoman Ivy, 610 00:35:23,040 --> 00:35:24,720 attorney, is the petitioner here? 611 00:35:24,720 --> 00:35:26,240 Yes, sir. 612 00:35:26,240 --> 00:35:36,630 I have a question. 613 00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:37,440 Good evening. 614 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,680 I may have been uh on 615 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:41,119 travel when we had the committee 616 00:35:41,119 --> 00:35:45,280 meeting. Um were you able to state um 617 00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:47,680 your vision for the restaurant? Like how 618 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,000 much time do you anticipate before the 619 00:35:50,000 --> 00:35:52,079 full service restaurant will be open and 620 00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:54,240 active? Well, due to permits and 621 00:35:54,240 --> 00:35:56,240 whatnot, um, restaurant equipment, we're 622 00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:58,880 shooting for November. So, 623 00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,079 of 2025. 624 00:36:00,079 --> 00:36:01,280 Yes. Yes, ma'am. 625 00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:05,119 And what type of, um, restaurant, I 626 00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:07,920 guess I should, pastas, pizza. 627 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:09,680 So, like more like a formal kind of 628 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:10,079 dining. 629 00:36:10,079 --> 00:36:10,800 Yeah. Yeah. 630 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:12,480 Okay. 631 00:36:12,480 --> 00:36:13,839 All right. We'll be checking in 632 00:36:13,839 --> 00:36:16,480 November. 633 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,000 It'll be worth it. 634 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,069 Any 635 00:36:24,079 --> 00:36:26,400 other questions? 636 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:31,589 Council member. 637 00:36:31,599 --> 00:36:35,520 Any other questions? Discussion. 638 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:36,480 Seeing none. 639 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:39,040 Roll call. Madam clerk. 640 00:36:39,040 --> 00:36:40,320 Councilwoman Brown. 641 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,359 Yes. 642 00:36:41,359 --> 00:36:42,800 Councilwoman Cwell. 643 00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:43,920 Yes. 644 00:36:43,920 --> 00:36:45,280 Councilman Hallebert. 645 00:36:45,280 --> 00:36:46,079 Yes. 646 00:36:46,079 --> 00:36:47,520 Councilwoman Ivy. 647 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:48,960 Yes. 648 00:36:48,960 --> 00:36:50,160 Councilman Oliver. 649 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:50,880 Yes. 650 00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,160 Councilman Washington. 651 00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:52,800 Yes. 652 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,079 Councilman Wington. 653 00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:54,560 Yes. 654 00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:55,839 And President L. 655 00:36:55,839 --> 00:36:56,720 Yes. 656 00:36:56,720 --> 00:36:58,640 Madam President, vote is 8 to Z. 657 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:02,720 With the vote of 8 to 0, CPO 2025-43 658 00:37:02,720 --> 00:37:05,839 has passed. And so Madam President 659 00:37:05,839 --> 00:37:09,200 orders and resolutions on 30. 660 00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:31,109 Thank you, Madam Clerk. The time 661 00:37:31,119 --> 00:37:32,960 Okay. Council pending ordinances and 662 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:35,839 resolutions on second readings. 663 00:37:35,839 --> 00:37:39,119 CPL 2023-44 664 00:37:39,119 --> 00:37:41,200 an orders provided for appropriations in 665 00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:43,920 the building renovations fund for fiscal 666 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:47,200 year 2026 expenses and forwarded to the 667 00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:50,800 common council for action and passage 668 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:55,990 pursuant to Indiana code 6-1.1-8-6 669 00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:57,920 sponsored by Mayor Eddie Milton city of 670 00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,560 Gary city 671 00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,160 colleagues I would like to entertain a 672 00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,040 motion to suspend the rules to pass CPO 673 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,560 2025-44 674 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,960 on all three readings. 675 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:10,079 So move. 676 00:38:10,079 --> 00:38:12,400 Thank you, Councilwoman Ivy. Is there a 677 00:38:12,400 --> 00:38:13,920 second? 678 00:38:13,920 --> 00:38:17,280 Thank you, Councilwoman Brown. 679 00:38:17,280 --> 00:38:19,920 Discussion, 680 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,190 Chief. 681 00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:27,520 Oh, I'm sorry. Not on the No, no, no. 682 00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:31,839 So, um, but can I discuss why? 683 00:38:31,839 --> 00:38:34,800 Um, so this is an appropriation needed 684 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,640 in an emergency manner for the 685 00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,359 replacement of the city hall elevator. 686 00:38:39,359 --> 00:38:41,200 Um, as you all know, has been out of 687 00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:44,000 order for months. It's the reason why 688 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,359 we're here in the library. Um, the 689 00:38:47,359 --> 00:38:49,359 elevator, to my understanding, is beyond 690 00:38:49,359 --> 00:38:52,480 repair. It needs to be replaced, which 691 00:38:52,480 --> 00:38:54,400 requires, of course, more money and 692 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:57,680 additional uh budget appropriation. 693 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,760 uh because of the sensitive nature and I 694 00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:01,760 guess emergency nature of it, we would 695 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,320 like to get the replacement moving as 696 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,320 fast as possible, which is why I'm 697 00:39:06,320 --> 00:39:08,160 requesting that we suspend the rules and 698 00:39:08,160 --> 00:39:12,950 do this on all three readings. 699 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,280 So, roll call on suspension of the 700 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:15,839 rules. 701 00:39:15,839 --> 00:39:17,040 Councilwoman Brown, 702 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:17,520 yes. 703 00:39:17,520 --> 00:39:18,960 Councilwoman Cwell, 704 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:19,760 yes. 705 00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:20,800 Council Hallebert, 706 00:39:20,800 --> 00:39:21,359 yes. 707 00:39:21,359 --> 00:39:22,720 Councilwoman Ivy, 708 00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:23,520 yes. 709 00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:24,720 Councilman Toiver, 710 00:39:24,720 --> 00:39:25,119 yes. 711 00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:26,320 Council Washington, 712 00:39:26,320 --> 00:39:32,310 yes. Council Wington, 713 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:33,440 president. 714 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:35,520 Yes. 715 00:39:35,520 --> 00:39:37,119 President. 716 00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:40,800 Thank you. With a vote of 8 to zero, we 717 00:39:40,800 --> 00:39:44,240 have suspended the rules. And now we 718 00:39:44,240 --> 00:39:52,470 need a a motion for passage. 719 00:39:52,480 --> 00:39:54,320 Thank you, Councilwoman Ivy. Is there a 720 00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,160 second? 721 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,640 seconded by second by Councilman 722 00:39:58,640 --> 00:39:59,839 Wington. 723 00:39:59,839 --> 00:40:07,510 Now for the overview. 724 00:40:07,520 --> 00:40:09,200 Good evening, Madam President and uh 725 00:40:09,200 --> 00:40:12,240 Steam Council. We thank you for um even 726 00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:14,720 um acknowledging um the issue that we 727 00:40:14,720 --> 00:40:17,280 faced. Um as you know, the city hall uh 728 00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:20,560 elevator um we believe was created or 729 00:40:20,560 --> 00:40:23,920 put in um it's either in the 30s or 40s 730 00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:26,480 had some remodel. Um since then, 731 00:40:26,480 --> 00:40:28,320 however, because of the age of the 732 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:31,440 building um and the uniqueness of that 733 00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,920 elevator that was created, um we have to 734 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:37,520 have a specially um built elevator um 735 00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,760 because our shaft is very small. So, a 736 00:40:39,760 --> 00:40:42,560 unique um elevator or a standard 737 00:40:42,560 --> 00:40:44,560 elevator, excuse me, will not fit our 738 00:40:44,560 --> 00:40:47,280 ele uh elevator shaft. Um so, what we 739 00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:48,960 did is initially the city had been 740 00:40:48,960 --> 00:40:52,640 working with KA um Ko N. Um they have 741 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:54,480 been working with them multiple 742 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:56,160 elevators throughout the city, but 743 00:40:56,160 --> 00:40:57,920 because of this emergency in nature, we 744 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,240 wanted to reach out to any other uh 745 00:41:00,240 --> 00:41:01,839 elevator company that exists within the 746 00:41:01,839 --> 00:41:04,160 Chicagoland area. And so, we were able 747 00:41:04,160 --> 00:41:05,920 to make connection with All Types 748 00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,400 Elevator. All Types Elevator did come 749 00:41:08,400 --> 00:41:12,079 back uh with a more uh responsible and 750 00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:14,480 lower quote. That quote is attached in 751 00:41:14,480 --> 00:41:19,599 your packet and it's uh uh 20030 752 00:41:19,599 --> 00:41:22,000 $230,000 753 00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:25,440 uh code days uh information. Um if you 754 00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:27,040 don't have it, I can share. I thought it 755 00:41:27,040 --> 00:41:29,520 was attached to the package. 756 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,960 Um I can't reord it to the email. I just 757 00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,720 fored it and shared it, but we did 758 00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:35,680 attach it to that original. 759 00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:37,359 I received it via email, but it's not 760 00:41:37,359 --> 00:41:38,319 printed. 761 00:41:38,319 --> 00:41:39,280 Okay. 762 00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:40,960 Does everybody else send it? 763 00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:45,910 And I can send it out right now. 764 00:41:45,920 --> 00:41:49,440 44 is not in here. 765 00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:52,720 The ordinance or just the quote 766 00:41:52,720 --> 00:41:57,430 just 767 00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,520 I've seen it. Okay. I've seen it, but 768 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:00,240 it's not. 769 00:42:00,240 --> 00:42:02,720 I'll let um our public works director 770 00:42:02,720 --> 00:42:03,760 talk a little bit more about the 771 00:42:03,760 --> 00:42:05,520 elevator and the history and things like 772 00:42:05,520 --> 00:42:07,359 that, and I'll make sure I send it out 773 00:42:07,359 --> 00:42:13,829 right now to all of the council. 774 00:42:13,839 --> 00:42:15,359 You got it. 775 00:42:15,359 --> 00:42:16,160 We have the ordinance. 776 00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:17,599 Okay. But just not the attachment, 777 00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:18,000 right? 778 00:42:18,000 --> 00:42:20,160 Okay. He's going to send it right out. 779 00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:23,760 So, excuse me. Good evening. Thank you 780 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,079 uh for hearing us. Uh it is an 781 00:42:26,079 --> 00:42:28,160 emergency. It's been several months 782 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,200 since the elevator has been down in city 783 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,119 hall. Uh which is part of the reason 784 00:42:33,119 --> 00:42:35,920 that we're here in this room tonight. Uh 785 00:42:35,920 --> 00:42:38,319 Ellis is correct because the elevator is 786 00:42:38,319 --> 00:42:41,440 so old. the original build. It's just 787 00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,599 difficult to kind of come in. We 788 00:42:43,599 --> 00:42:45,760 actually had a line on an elevator, but 789 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:48,480 it just simply would not fit. Con has 790 00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,560 been servicing our elevators across the 791 00:42:50,560 --> 00:42:52,880 city for the last few years. As far back 792 00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:56,400 as I can tell, I find that their prices 793 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,520 are incredibly high, that they're not 794 00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,880 competitive with a lot of other vendors, 795 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,920 specifically all types who this proposal 796 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,800 is from. We have recently brought all 797 00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:10,880 types into our fold this year. They've 798 00:43:10,880 --> 00:43:13,200 been doing some work. Uh, one of the I 799 00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:14,800 won't call it a disadvantage, but 800 00:43:14,800 --> 00:43:18,000 they're not as big of an outfit as Kona, 801 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:19,839 so we've had some challenges with 802 00:43:19,839 --> 00:43:22,319 scheduling. Uh, they're out of Illinois, 803 00:43:22,319 --> 00:43:25,200 but their price and their work I find to 804 00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:29,680 be comparable, if not better than that, of Kona. So, I'm completely 805 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:31,920 comfortable with moving forward with 806 00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:35,359 their proposal, which is roughly half of 807 00:43:35,359 --> 00:43:39,040 what was presented by Kona maybe a year 808 00:43:39,040 --> 00:43:41,440 uh a year and a half ago. So, they've 809 00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,319 been working toward updating their 810 00:43:44,319 --> 00:43:46,319 proposal and they just haven't done so 811 00:43:46,319 --> 00:43:48,560 yet. But, I would expect that it would 812 00:43:48,560 --> 00:43:50,640 probably come in around a half a million 813 00:43:50,640 --> 00:43:54,079 dollars for and it's not a new elevator. 814 00:43:54,079 --> 00:43:56,720 It's a complete uh kind of a rebuild. 815 00:43:56,720 --> 00:43:59,359 They refer to it as a modernization of 816 00:43:59,359 --> 00:44:01,680 the elevator. So that's kind of where we 817 00:44:01,680 --> 00:44:04,480 are. All types is ready to go. If we 818 00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,480 agree on this tonight and to Ellis's 819 00:44:06,480 --> 00:44:08,720 point, it would be about 30 days before 820 00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:11,280 we could bring all the elements um and 821 00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,839 all the aspects of it together to start 822 00:44:13,839 --> 00:44:18,560 the work. So thank you 823 00:44:18,560 --> 00:44:22,309 councilwoman Barwell. 824 00:44:22,319 --> 00:44:24,400 I have little understanding you have two 825 00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:26,400 quotes in and all types. 826 00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:28,960 We don't have con they still have not 827 00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:30,640 delivered the quote that we've been 828 00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:33,440 waiting on for about 3 weeks now from 829 00:44:33,440 --> 00:44:35,119 the other vendor. So the only one we 830 00:44:35,119 --> 00:44:38,079 have in hand right now, councilwoman, is 831 00:44:38,079 --> 00:44:41,280 for the one that uh all types. But we 832 00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:42,319 had previously 833 00:44:42,319 --> 00:44:42,800 million. 834 00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:44,800 No, no, this is 230. 835 00:44:44,800 --> 00:44:47,839 But we had previously received a quote I 836 00:44:47,839 --> 00:44:49,520 believe last year, Ellis Labor, or the 837 00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:53,040 year before from Ket and that was coming 838 00:44:53,040 --> 00:44:55,520 in at least double the amount of all 839 00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,359 types. So adjusted for inflation and 840 00:44:59,359 --> 00:45:01,200 tariffs, I think we can anticipate that 841 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:03,920 it would be higher uh even still this 842 00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:04,640 year. 843 00:45:04,640 --> 00:45:06,560 Those are the only two elevator services 844 00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:07,440 in the area. 845 00:45:07,440 --> 00:45:09,680 There are actually there is one other 846 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:14,480 called South Suburban, but it's a very small operation. It's been a real 847 00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:16,640 challenge. Uh but these are the only 848 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:19,280 three that I'm aware of and that have 849 00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:22,400 been used uh in our for our city 850 00:45:22,400 --> 00:45:24,240 services over the years. 851 00:45:24,240 --> 00:45:26,240 South Suburban. I be your pardon. 852 00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:27,520 Did you get a quote from them? 853 00:45:27,520 --> 00:45:29,119 No, I don't believe so. I don't think 854 00:45:29,119 --> 00:45:30,960 South Suburban the size of their 855 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:32,880 operation that they're even prepared to 856 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,640 take on a job of this magnitude. 857 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:39,680 So, if we were with all types, when 858 00:45:39,680 --> 00:45:42,240 would the project be completed? That's a 859 00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:44,400 great question and I would dare not give 860 00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:47,200 an answer to that tonight, but I could 861 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:49,440 if we agreed to move forward tonight, I 862 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:51,280 could certainly get a better timeline 863 00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,599 for when we could expect to begin 864 00:45:53,599 --> 00:45:55,599 through completion of the work. 865 00:45:55,599 --> 00:45:57,440 And how much is that again? 866 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:03,510 230,000 is the amount of the quote. 867 00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:04,880 Oh, Councilman Wington. 868 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,880 Oh, thank you very much. Uh, I want to 869 00:46:06,880 --> 00:46:08,640 impress my hesitency was not with your 870 00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:11,359 work. I'm thoroughly impressed. I mean, 871 00:46:11,359 --> 00:46:13,680 you do amazing work especially with 872 00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:15,359 limitation that we do have. So I do 873 00:46:15,359 --> 00:46:19,359 appreciate you hesitency was excuse me 874 00:46:19,359 --> 00:46:21,040 it's just that I've just now seen the 875 00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:22,560 documentation 876 00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:24,720 um even when we worked with like HUD you 877 00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:26,800 always requested three estimates just to 878 00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:28,400 figure out but I thank you for answering 879 00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:30,400 and talking about the limited scope uh 880 00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,160 being the size of the groups and we have 881 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,880 to retrofit the elevator. So my next 882 00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:36,000 question would be since you answered 883 00:46:36,000 --> 00:46:40,000 that the allocation says 337,000 884 00:46:40,000 --> 00:46:41,599 but you said the estimate that we got 885 00:46:41,599 --> 00:46:43,280 today that's all was 230,000. 886 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,119 I'm making sure I'm looking at the most 887 00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:46,079 recent updated. 888 00:46:46,079 --> 00:46:47,920 Yeah, that's that is it. Correct. We're 889 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:48,960 not going to use additional 890 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:50,240 appropriation. What we didn't want to do 891 00:46:50,240 --> 00:46:52,240 is find ourselves in a situation where 892 00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:54,560 there's any change order whatsoever 893 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:57,040 because it is an outdated and a retrofit 894 00:46:57,040 --> 00:46:58,560 which we know have come into play and 895 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,400 then have to come back and ask for it 896 00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:02,160 again for an adjustment. Of course, we 897 00:47:02,160 --> 00:47:04,240 will continue to keep uh Chief of Staff 898 00:47:04,240 --> 00:47:06,079 Brooks as well as council president up 899 00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:07,760 to update the entire council on these 900 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:09,520 things, but we just wanted to make sure 901 00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:12,720 we had enough room to build in any type 902 00:47:12,720 --> 00:47:15,040 of change whatsoever. So, that was in 903 00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,640 regards to it. There's some other 904 00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:18,079 building improvements that needed, but 905 00:47:18,079 --> 00:47:19,599 again, they're not urgent, but they do 906 00:47:19,599 --> 00:47:22,560 comply with ADA. The railing outside, as 907 00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,920 you guys have seen, climbed up is shaky. 908 00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,520 All of those things that we know we're 909 00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:29,119 working with the council. We appreciate 910 00:47:29,119 --> 00:47:31,280 their support in the uh guaranteed 911 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:32,560 segments which are going to address a 912 00:47:32,560 --> 00:47:34,160 lot of these things. But the only 913 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:36,240 emergency tonight is the elevator 914 00:47:36,240 --> 00:47:37,920 because we know the timeline and the 915 00:47:37,920 --> 00:47:40,560 goal is to get the city hall back open. 916 00:47:40,560 --> 00:47:42,160 All of our public meetings including 917 00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:43,440 council of course have been 918 00:47:43,440 --> 00:47:45,040 inconvenenced outside of city hall 919 00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:47,119 because it's not ADA compliant as well 920 00:47:47,119 --> 00:47:49,599 as our staff who right now anybody who 921 00:47:49,599 --> 00:47:51,119 has to we've had to make accommodations 922 00:47:51,119 --> 00:47:53,040 to make sure they can be in law. 923 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:54,800 No, I appreciate you and thank you for 924 00:47:54,800 --> 00:47:58,240 the explanation. Uh my only concern is 925 00:47:58,240 --> 00:48:00,319 not creating precedence going forward. 926 00:48:00,319 --> 00:48:01,599 And I I don't say this out of 927 00:48:01,599 --> 00:48:04,000 disrespect. Uh I appreciate everything 928 00:48:04,000 --> 00:48:05,520 you're doing. I just really like being 929 00:48:05,520 --> 00:48:07,440 in the know. And I think for the city's 930 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,520 sake, especially as we talk about, you 931 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:11,280 know, expenditures and we talk about 932 00:48:11,280 --> 00:48:13,040 limited budget, everyone just deserves 933 00:48:13,040 --> 00:48:15,280 to know ahead of time what we're working 934 00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:17,440 with and the full scope of it because 935 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:19,920 looking at this 337, I appreciate the 936 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,839 explanation. It just comes out of 937 00:48:21,839 --> 00:48:23,680 nowhere. And you ask us today to vote 938 00:48:23,680 --> 00:48:25,680 for it and I'm like I'm looking at my 939 00:48:25,680 --> 00:48:27,440 email. I'm pretty consistent. I haven't 940 00:48:27,440 --> 00:48:29,599 seen anything. So, that was my 941 00:48:29,599 --> 00:48:32,240 onlyation, but I do appreciate you. So, 942 00:48:32,240 --> 00:48:33,119 thank you. 943 00:48:33,119 --> 00:48:34,319 Yeah. Thank you. And let me take 944 00:48:34,319 --> 00:48:36,640 responsibility for that because it was 945 00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:40,319 um I've had it since last week at least 946 00:48:40,319 --> 00:48:42,640 and should have passed it on to my 947 00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:43,200 colleagues. 948 00:48:43,200 --> 00:48:43,760 I appreciate. 949 00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:46,640 So, with travel and everything, that's 950 00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,960 something that I didn't do, but I take 951 00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:50,160 responsibility for that. 952 00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,400 I appreciate you. 953 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:53,920 Thank you. 954 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,000 Um, attorney well, Councilman Washington 955 00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:57,200 and then Attorney Williams. 956 00:48:57,200 --> 00:48:59,359 Yeah. My question, 957 00:48:59,359 --> 00:49:01,200 have we 958 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,440 provided an estimate for some type of 959 00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:06,079 chair lift coming from the parking lot 960 00:49:06,079 --> 00:49:08,400 up the steps to city hall? 961 00:49:08,400 --> 00:49:11,599 So, so, so let me say this. In order to 962 00:49:11,599 --> 00:49:13,520 get our building truly, honestly, it is 963 00:49:13,520 --> 00:49:14,240 a fair question. 964 00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:15,680 And the reason why I asked that, chief 965 00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:18,000 of staff, is that we got some money 966 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,640 that's available and those stairs ain't 967 00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:22,240 no joke. And I know not only with 968 00:49:22,240 --> 00:49:24,319 Councilwoman Brown, but other people in 969 00:49:24,319 --> 00:49:26,880 the public have problems going up those 970 00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:27,359 stairs. 971 00:49:27,359 --> 00:49:29,680 So our ADA, to answer your question, our 972 00:49:29,680 --> 00:49:32,000 ADA route, Fort City Hall technically is 973 00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,640 an ADA ramp. You take the sidewalk to 974 00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:37,200 the ramp on the west side of the 975 00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:38,000 building, 976 00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:39,920 down that ramp into the basement, and 977 00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,079 the elevator will go to whatever floor 978 00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:44,559 you need in this ADA assessment. The 979 00:49:44,559 --> 00:49:46,559 problem with that is that we've now 980 00:49:46,559 --> 00:49:49,040 fixed that door. So the handicap button 981 00:49:49,040 --> 00:49:50,960 works. We got that taken care of with 982 00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:53,040 the appropriations we already have. So, 983 00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:54,559 at least that door works, but now our 984 00:49:54,559 --> 00:49:56,800 elevator's out. Um, also, like I just 985 00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,520 mentioned, the railing, even not being 986 00:49:59,520 --> 00:50:02,240 ADA, that railing, I would dare to have 987 00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:04,079 a person grab onto that railing in this 988 00:50:04,079 --> 00:50:05,359 current state. We've already got 989 00:50:05,359 --> 00:50:07,760 estimates for that. Um, I'm happy to 990 00:50:07,760 --> 00:50:09,680 share that with the council. Again, we 991 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:11,440 have enough appropriations thankfully 992 00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:14,000 for that because it's deemed situation, 993 00:50:14,000 --> 00:50:16,079 but I don't think a chairlift would be 994 00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:17,040 necessary, okay, 995 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:19,520 for that. If it it has a ADA route, 996 00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,200 should our elevator be up to par? 997 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:24,240 So we get that elevator straight to ADA. 998 00:50:24,240 --> 00:50:25,839 Correct. We are now back into ADA 999 00:50:25,839 --> 00:50:28,000 compliance. We we did in this we 1000 00:50:28,000 --> 00:50:30,160 assessed again. CO took a lot of things 1001 00:50:30,160 --> 00:50:33,280 out of plas shame to any other previous 1002 00:50:33,280 --> 00:50:34,640 administration or what the resources 1003 00:50:34,640 --> 00:50:36,880 were, but a lot of our buildings did not 1004 00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,000 have up-to-date coded elevators. So all 1005 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:41,760 of our elevators were inspected at this 1006 00:50:41,760 --> 00:50:45,599 point under u um director um Morgan 1007 00:50:45,599 --> 00:50:47,920 Caesar's leadership. So Hudson and 1008 00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,119 Campbell is good. The Marquette Park is 1009 00:50:51,119 --> 00:50:54,559 good. Health department is good. Um uh 1010 00:50:54,559 --> 00:50:56,480 police department is almost there but 1011 00:50:56,480 --> 00:50:58,559 getting there. Uh but again we don't 1012 00:50:58,559 --> 00:51:00,000 need additional appropriations in 1013 00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:02,160 regards to those because they are good. 1014 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:05,599 Their repairs were within scope. Never 1015 00:51:05,599 --> 00:51:07,599 none of them roll to six figures. 1016 00:51:07,599 --> 00:51:09,520 Thank you. 1017 00:51:09,520 --> 00:51:12,480 Councilman Washington. 1018 00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:15,440 Um, yes, Councilwoman Ivy and then 1019 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,680 Councilman Oliver. Councilman Oliver. 1020 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:19,040 Yeah, I just had a quick question. So, 1021 00:51:19,040 --> 00:51:20,240 with these repairs, what's the 1022 00:51:20,240 --> 00:51:22,160 longevity? What's the life expectancy? 1023 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:23,680 Because I know you said that this is a 1024 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:25,680 was built in the 30s and 40s. So, with 1025 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:27,520 this, are we looking at that the 1026 00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,200 elevator is not going to have any issues 1027 00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:34,240 for what, the next 10 or 15 years? Maint 1028 00:51:34,240 --> 00:51:35,920 with this package includes the warranty 1029 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,680 and maintenance plan. So what we've 1030 00:51:37,680 --> 00:51:39,920 already communicated with now is ongoing 1031 00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,559 maintenance schedules both for HVAC but 1032 00:51:42,559 --> 00:51:44,319 also with our elevators. So they'll come 1033 00:51:44,319 --> 00:51:46,640 out and do routine maintenance and of 1034 00:51:46,640 --> 00:51:49,440 course bar any 1035 00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,119 foreseen situation it'll be covered 1036 00:51:51,119 --> 00:51:54,319 under warranty all of our belts motors u 1037 00:51:54,319 --> 00:51:56,800 essentials. Again uh we don't want to 1038 00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,640 set expectations unreasonable. So this 1039 00:51:58,640 --> 00:52:01,119 does not change the cart. Cart is fine. 1040 00:52:01,119 --> 00:52:02,640 I would have loved to just swap out the 1041 00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:04,880 whole cart for this price. Um but 1042 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,119 unfortunately again our elevator shaft 1043 00:52:07,119 --> 00:52:09,200 is small. So, a standard cart to 1044 00:52:09,200 --> 00:52:11,040 purchase doesn't fit. We tried that 1045 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:13,200 route already. Um, and so we can't we 1046 00:52:13,200 --> 00:52:14,880 have to they're going to modernize all 1047 00:52:14,880 --> 00:52:16,800 of it. So, all of that's going to be in. 1048 00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:18,480 So, to answer your question, it'll all 1049 00:52:18,480 --> 00:52:20,559 be covered under warranty should there 1050 00:52:20,559 --> 00:52:23,040 be any issues. 1051 00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,599 Councilwoman ID. 1052 00:52:25,599 --> 00:52:27,680 Well, that was part of my question. My 1053 00:52:27,680 --> 00:52:31,040 next question uh would be you stated 1054 00:52:31,040 --> 00:52:33,119 that KA 1055 00:52:33,119 --> 00:52:35,280 um had not come in with their proposal 1056 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:36,400 yet. No. 1057 00:52:36,400 --> 00:52:39,119 So, if you have all of this information 1058 00:52:39,119 --> 00:52:41,119 from all types, does that mean that 1059 00:52:41,119 --> 00:52:42,960 proposals are closed? Was there a due 1060 00:52:42,960 --> 00:52:45,520 date? Are you still going to evaluate 1061 00:52:45,520 --> 00:52:49,599 both or are we pretty much set on using 1062 00:52:49,599 --> 00:52:50,880 all types of elevators? 1063 00:52:50,880 --> 00:52:53,119 So, because it is an emergency and this 1064 00:52:53,119 --> 00:52:55,839 was not an official bid in terms of 1065 00:52:55,839 --> 00:52:58,559 receiving quotes. If we get one from 1066 00:52:58,559 --> 00:53:00,800 Kone, I'm saying within the next 24 1067 00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:02,640 hours, we've literally been waiting for 1068 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:04,720 weeks. We'll look at it, but I know it's 1069 00:53:04,720 --> 00:53:06,720 going to be at least twice this amount 1070 00:53:06,720 --> 00:53:08,480 for the same scope of work. 1071 00:53:08,480 --> 00:53:10,160 Madam President, so how does that work 1072 00:53:10,160 --> 00:53:12,160 with a vote on the floor right now for 1073 00:53:12,160 --> 00:53:13,599 this ordinance? How does that work for 1074 00:53:13,599 --> 00:53:14,400 this conference? 1075 00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:16,000 Correct me if I'm wrong, Attorney 1076 00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:17,680 Williams, but we're just approving the 1077 00:53:17,680 --> 00:53:20,079 budget appropriation. We're just making 1078 00:53:20,079 --> 00:53:20,800 the money 1079 00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:24,079 with whomever, right? They would like 1080 00:53:24,079 --> 00:53:24,880 South Suburban 1081 00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:27,599 from South Suburban 1082 00:53:27,599 --> 00:53:30,000 from anyone. And I I would just 1083 00:53:30,000 --> 00:53:32,880 interject here before Attorney Williams 1084 00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:35,040 speaks. 1085 00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:39,359 There are a lot of things that I would 1086 00:53:39,359 --> 00:53:42,480 shop for and buy and price would 1087 00:53:42,480 --> 00:53:46,559 probably be the number one criteria. 1088 00:53:46,559 --> 00:53:51,200 Paint, chairs, tables, carpet. I may go 1089 00:53:51,200 --> 00:53:53,440 with the lowest price. I'm not 1090 00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:57,040 necessarily comfortable with just 1091 00:53:57,040 --> 00:53:58,960 getting the cheapest 1092 00:53:58,960 --> 00:53:59,920 That's right. 1093 00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:02,960 elevator. Get Yeah, getting on an 1094 00:54:02,960 --> 00:54:05,520 elevator requires a tremendous amount of 1095 00:54:05,520 --> 00:54:10,960 trust. So um I would ask that you know 1096 00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,319 we be diligent in making sure that 1097 00:54:14,319 --> 00:54:16,960 whoever we pick has that they're 1098 00:54:16,960 --> 00:54:19,040 reference they have references 1099 00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:24,319 reputation and quality of of work 1100 00:54:24,319 --> 00:54:26,880 because again um for something like an 1101 00:54:26,880 --> 00:54:29,920 elevator safety accessibility 1102 00:54:29,920 --> 00:54:30,960 for sure 1103 00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:33,520 um even the maintenance plan warranty I 1104 00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:35,520 think those are things that would 1105 00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:37,920 warrant us even paying more. 1106 00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:38,720 Yes. 1107 00:54:38,720 --> 00:54:42,319 Just to sleep at night than than just 1108 00:54:42,319 --> 00:54:45,200 the cheapest price. Attorney Williams. 1109 00:54:45,200 --> 00:54:47,440 Yes. Thank you. I I I think Miss Caesar 1110 00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:49,440 did a good job clearing it up. We we use 1111 00:54:49,440 --> 00:54:51,520 the word be it in quotes interchangeably 1112 00:54:51,520 --> 00:54:52,720 and they're not. 1113 00:54:52,720 --> 00:54:54,800 Um this would have triggered a bid 1114 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,119 requirement given the amount of money. 1115 00:54:57,119 --> 00:54:59,520 Uh but it is an ADA violation and it 1116 00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:01,680 definitely qualifies as an emergency. So 1117 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,920 they're not required to get the standard 1118 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,680 three bids that they otherwise would 1119 00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,079 have been required to do because of the 1120 00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:10,559 ADA violation that the chief of staff 1121 00:55:10,559 --> 00:55:13,280 has pointed out. So rest assured we are 1122 00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,319 within the statute's authority. Um I 1123 00:55:16,319 --> 00:55:17,520 think we probably waited a little too 1124 00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:18,640 long. We probably should have brought in 1125 00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:21,200 sooner but it still nevertheless I think 1126 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:24,640 satisfies an emergency and the one bid 1127 00:55:24,640 --> 00:55:26,720 would suffice. This is definitely not a 1128 00:55:26,720 --> 00:55:30,400 quote situation. This is a be situation. 1129 00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:31,440 Just wanted to clear that up. 1130 00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:34,079 Thank you. Former public works director, 1131 00:55:34,079 --> 00:55:36,400 attorney, 1132 00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:37,119 Williams. 1133 00:55:37,119 --> 00:55:38,880 But I take your point, um, Madame 1134 00:55:38,880 --> 00:55:41,119 President, with regard to the quality 1135 00:55:41,119 --> 00:55:43,280 and not being fixed on price 1136 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:44,720 exclusively. 1137 00:55:44,720 --> 00:55:47,760 I know K has a a reputation. I think 1138 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,319 they're a national, if not international 1139 00:55:50,319 --> 00:55:53,119 firm. Can you speak to all types 1140 00:55:53,119 --> 00:55:54,640 elevators, the work that they've done 1141 00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:55,280 for us? 1142 00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:56,799 The work that they've done. 1143 00:55:56,799 --> 00:55:58,559 Uh, can't speak to their regional work. 1144 00:55:58,559 --> 00:56:00,720 I can do more homework on them. But the 1145 00:56:00,720 --> 00:56:02,480 work that they've done for us in our 1146 00:56:02,480 --> 00:56:05,200 buildings has been more than 1147 00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:07,520 satisfactory and they were actually 1148 00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:09,440 given and I'm actually kind of curious 1149 00:56:09,440 --> 00:56:11,520 when we do receive the KA quote because 1150 00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:14,079 I suspect we will get it eventually but 1151 00:56:14,079 --> 00:56:16,480 it's for the exact same scope of work. 1152 00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,440 So sometimes uh nationally or 1153 00:56:19,440 --> 00:56:21,839 internationally recognized companies the 1154 00:56:21,839 --> 00:56:25,040 additional cost is for that recognition. 1155 00:56:25,040 --> 00:56:27,119 So, while we don't have money to pay 1156 00:56:27,119 --> 00:56:30,000 double just because of their name, we 1157 00:56:30,000 --> 00:56:33,520 are certainly looking for uh comparable 1158 00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:37,680 um services or outcomes. 1159 00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:40,240 Thank you. Any other questions, 1160 00:56:40,240 --> 00:56:42,480 comments, discussion? 1161 00:56:42,480 --> 00:56:43,760 Yes, Councilman Wington. 1162 00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:48,640 Thank you, Madam President. Thank you, 1163 00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:52,240 Attorney app. My question is uh why 1164 00:56:52,240 --> 00:56:53,599 don't we allocate half a million dollars 1165 00:56:53,599 --> 00:56:56,079 now? I mean if we if you're going to 1166 00:56:56,079 --> 00:56:57,839 expect it's going to be half a million 1167 00:56:57,839 --> 00:56:59,839 to get it done right and then just throw 1168 00:56:59,839 --> 00:57:02,960 the uh the rails in there as well. 1169 00:57:02,960 --> 00:57:06,720 So um our deputy controller is present. 1170 00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:09,680 Um and I have to say that because our uh 1171 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:12,799 before controller green left um she made 1172 00:57:12,799 --> 00:57:14,079 sure that the appropriations in which 1173 00:57:14,079 --> 00:57:15,359 they where they came from was 1174 00:57:15,359 --> 00:57:18,319 appropriate. Um, and so I would have to 1175 00:57:18,319 --> 00:57:20,559 defer that to our deputy controller to 1176 00:57:20,559 --> 00:57:21,760 make sure where we're pulling the 1177 00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:23,040 appropriations from, 1178 00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:23,599 okay, 1179 00:57:23,599 --> 00:57:25,760 the money exists. That's all. 1180 00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:28,079 So I I appreciate that, though. 1181 00:57:28,079 --> 00:57:29,839 Um, but I and I assure you we won't 1182 00:57:29,839 --> 00:57:32,319 spend more than we have to, but um, 1183 00:57:32,319 --> 00:57:34,000 you can use Councilman Wisson's credit 1184 00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:35,839 cards, too. 1185 00:57:35,839 --> 00:57:38,240 Name it the Wiston 1186 00:57:38,240 --> 00:57:39,760 elevator. 1187 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:43,750 People move. 1188 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:45,839 Um, good evening, council. I would 1189 00:57:45,839 --> 00:57:48,559 definitely have to go back and look at 1190 00:57:48,559 --> 00:57:50,240 some more numbers to try to pull some 1191 00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,240 more finances for that piece. 1192 00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:52,640 Okay. 1193 00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:53,200 Yeah. 1194 00:57:53,200 --> 00:58:00,230 Thank you. I appreciate you. 1195 00:58:00,240 --> 00:58:02,480 Thank you, Councilman Wington. 1196 00:58:02,480 --> 00:58:04,160 Any other questions, comments, 1197 00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:06,880 discussion? 1198 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:08,480 If not, the motion on the floor is for 1199 00:58:08,480 --> 00:58:09,920 passage. 1200 00:58:09,920 --> 00:58:12,799 Roll call. Madam Clerk, Housewoman, 1201 00:58:12,799 --> 00:58:14,160 yes. 1202 00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:15,599 Councilwoman 1203 00:58:15,599 --> 00:58:16,559 Yes. 1204 00:58:16,559 --> 00:58:17,680 Councilman Hallebert. 1205 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:18,559 Yes. 1206 00:58:18,559 --> 00:58:19,839 Councilwoman Ivy. 1207 00:58:19,839 --> 00:58:20,640 Yes. 1208 00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:21,839 Councilman Tower. 1209 00:58:21,839 --> 00:58:22,400 Yes. 1210 00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:23,680 Councilman Washington. 1211 00:58:23,680 --> 00:58:24,160 Yes. 1212 00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:25,520 Councilman Wizington. 1213 00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:26,319 Yes. 1214 00:58:26,319 --> 00:58:27,280 President. 1215 00:58:27,280 --> 00:58:27,760 Yes. 1216 00:58:27,760 --> 00:58:29,599 Madam President, vote is 8 to Z. 1217 00:58:29,599 --> 00:58:33,599 With the vote of 8 to 0, CPO 2025-44 1218 00:58:33,599 --> 00:58:39,190 has passed on all three readings. 1219 00:58:39,200 --> 00:58:42,960 CPO 2025-45. 1220 00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,359 in order to establishing a fund for the 1221 00:58:45,359 --> 00:58:47,280 city of Gary and Hard Rock Casino 1222 00:58:47,280 --> 00:58:49,280 matches for Lake County Convention 1223 00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:51,280 Center and providing for additional 1224 00:58:51,280 --> 00:58:54,079 appropriations in casino operating fund 1225 00:58:54,079 --> 00:58:57,520 for the fiscal year 2025 expenses and 1226 00:58:57,520 --> 00:58:59,200 forwarded to the county council for 1227 00:58:59,200 --> 00:59:01,839 action and passage pursuant to Indiana 1228 00:59:01,839 --> 00:59:06,630 code 6-1.1-8-6 1229 00:59:06,640 --> 00:59:08,799 counciloman Brown I move for passage of 1230 00:59:08,799 --> 00:59:12,160 CPL 202245 1231 00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:14,640 on Second reading with the finance 1232 00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,440 committee meeting on Monday, August the 1233 00:59:17,440 --> 00:59:37,430 18th at 5:00 p.m. 1234 00:59:37,440 --> 00:59:40,720 She said Tuesday. 1235 00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:54,789 No, she said Monday the 18th. 1236 00:59:54,799 --> 01:00:07,910 I'm okay. 1237 01:00:07,920 --> 01:00:10,319 That's when you guys 1238 01:00:10,319 --> 01:00:11,359 That's the preference. 1239 01:00:11,359 --> 01:00:13,359 Well, the reason why I said that because 1240 01:00:13,359 --> 01:00:15,680 the the presentation, we saw the 1241 01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,319 presentation and it's kind of lengthy 1242 01:00:18,319 --> 01:00:21,040 um for the comprehensive plan. So, I 1243 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:23,280 want them to be able to have as much 1244 01:00:23,280 --> 01:00:26,160 room as possible to have questions asked 1245 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:27,920 by council members regarding plan. 1246 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:31,359 That's only reason. 1247 01:00:31,359 --> 01:00:32,799 Yeah. 1248 01:00:32,799 --> 01:00:35,599 So, can you do the 12? 1249 01:00:35,599 --> 01:00:37,599 I mean, do you think there's time to do 1250 01:00:37,599 --> 01:00:38,079 both? 1251 01:00:38,079 --> 01:00:39,839 Whatever you say, ma'am. 1252 01:00:39,839 --> 01:00:41,760 I mean, I'm 12 is fine. 1253 01:00:41,760 --> 01:00:43,359 I'm okay with doing the 12. 1254 01:00:43,359 --> 01:00:45,920 She said the 18. 1255 01:00:45,920 --> 01:01:02,150 That's okay. 1256 01:01:02,160 --> 01:01:04,000 Miss Lane, 1257 01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:15,430 the library available on the 18th. 1258 01:01:15,440 --> 01:01:18,720 Tuesday if that's okay. It's easy. We 1259 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:20,559 already have 1260 01:01:20,559 --> 01:01:24,640 Tuesday the 12th at 5:00. 1261 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:31,349 Okay. 1262 01:01:31,359 --> 01:01:32,880 It's been moved to second. Roll call. 1263 01:01:32,880 --> 01:01:33,760 Madam clerk. 1264 01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,119 Councilwoman Brown. 1265 01:01:35,119 --> 01:01:35,599 Yes. 1266 01:01:35,599 --> 01:01:36,960 Councilwoman Cwell. 1267 01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:37,440 Yes. 1268 01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:38,720 Councilman Hallebert. 1269 01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:39,200 Yes. 1270 01:01:39,200 --> 01:01:40,480 Councilwoman Ivy. 1271 01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:40,960 Yes. 1272 01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:42,160 Councilman Toiver. 1273 01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:42,559 Yes. 1274 01:01:42,559 --> 01:01:43,760 Councilman Washington. 1275 01:01:43,760 --> 01:01:44,240 Yes. 1276 01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:45,359 Councilman Lington. 1277 01:01:45,359 --> 01:01:46,880 Yes. and President Le. 1278 01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:47,359 Yes. 1279 01:01:47,359 --> 01:01:49,280 Madam President, vote is 8 to Z. 1280 01:01:49,280 --> 01:01:52,240 Thank you. With the vote of 8 to Z, CPO 1281 01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:53,760 2025-45 1282 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:56,400 passes on second reading with the 1283 01:01:56,400 --> 01:01:59,280 finance committee meeting on 1284 01:01:59,280 --> 01:02:03,599 Tuesday, August the 12th at 5:00 p.m. 1285 01:02:03,599 --> 01:02:05,040 Thank you for your patience with us, 1286 01:02:05,040 --> 01:02:07,119 Councilwoman Brown. 1287 01:02:07,119 --> 01:02:10,480 CPO 2025-46 1288 01:02:10,480 --> 01:02:12,160 and orders providing for transfer 1289 01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,720 appropriations between series for the 1290 01:02:14,720 --> 01:02:18,079 Gary city court for the fiscal year 2025 1291 01:02:18,079 --> 01:02:19,839 budget and forwarded to the common 1292 01:02:19,839 --> 01:02:22,160 council for action and passage pursuant 1293 01:02:22,160 --> 01:02:26,470 to Indiana code 6-1.1-8-6 1294 01:02:26,480 --> 01:02:28,319 sponsored by Mayor Eddie Melton city of 1295 01:02:28,319 --> 01:02:31,680 Gary Sel city controller and jud judge 1296 01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:34,799 DBL court 1297 01:02:34,799 --> 01:02:35,760 counciloman Brown. 1298 01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:40,160 I move for passage of CPL 202546 1299 01:02:40,160 --> 01:02:42,240 on second reading with the finance 1300 01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:44,880 committee meeting on Tuesday, August 1301 01:02:44,880 --> 01:02:47,280 12th at 5:00 p.m. 1302 01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:48,640 Second. 1303 01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:50,559 It's been moved and second. Roll call. 1304 01:02:50,559 --> 01:02:52,079 Madam clerk. 1305 01:02:52,079 --> 01:02:53,599 Councilwoman Brown. 1306 01:02:53,599 --> 01:02:54,559 Yes. 1307 01:02:54,559 --> 01:02:56,000 Councilwoman Cwell. 1308 01:02:56,000 --> 01:02:56,640 Yes. 1309 01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:57,760 Councilman Hallebert. 1310 01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:58,319 Yes. 1311 01:02:58,319 --> 01:02:59,520 Councilwoman Ivy. 1312 01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:00,640 Yes. 1313 01:03:00,640 --> 01:03:01,760 Councilman Toiver, 1314 01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:02,240 yes. 1315 01:03:02,240 --> 01:03:03,440 Councilman Washington, 1316 01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:05,760 yes. 1317 01:03:05,760 --> 01:03:07,040 And President, 1318 01:03:07,040 --> 01:03:07,520 yes. 1319 01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:09,680 Madam President, the vote is 8 to Z. 1320 01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:13,599 With a vote of 8 to 0, CPO 2025-46 1321 01:03:13,599 --> 01:03:15,599 pass on second reading. 1322 01:03:15,599 --> 01:03:18,480 Madam President, resolutions on second 1323 01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:18,880 reading. 1324 01:03:18,880 --> 01:03:20,480 Thank you, Madam Clerk. At this time, 1325 01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:22,319 we'll have reports and questions of city 1326 01:03:22,319 --> 01:03:25,200 officials. 1327 01:03:25,200 --> 01:03:34,549 Councilwoman Barcelo 1328 01:03:34,559 --> 01:03:39,599 my question. Um, I know that we uh hired 1329 01:03:39,599 --> 01:03:43,920 gay contracts out to 1330 01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:46,000 grass cutters. 1331 01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:48,720 What's the process? Because I've 1332 01:03:48,720 --> 01:03:52,240 requested some lots be cut. Uh, they 1333 01:03:52,240 --> 01:03:56,319 haven't been cut. U one particular lot 1334 01:03:56,319 --> 01:03:59,200 code enforcement told me who the lot 1335 01:03:59,200 --> 01:04:03,520 belonged to which was two of the lots 1336 01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:05,920 half of a block office redevelopment 1337 01:04:05,920 --> 01:04:08,799 owned a couple private citizens of 1338 01:04:08,799 --> 01:04:10,880 others that weren't in the area. My 1339 01:04:10,880 --> 01:04:13,200 question was can we go ahead and site 1340 01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:16,480 those people who own it and do whatever. 1341 01:04:16,480 --> 01:04:19,119 The contractor came out and cut two lots 1342 01:04:19,119 --> 01:04:22,720 and left the rest. It looks a mess. Um 1343 01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:24,720 I'm tired of citizens asking me why the 1344 01:04:24,720 --> 01:04:27,760 grass can't get cut, why it's this high. 1345 01:04:27,760 --> 01:04:30,480 And like I said, I even a block club 1346 01:04:30,480 --> 01:04:35,119 asked me, they're having an event. Can you get the grass cut for us? I put 1347 01:04:35,119 --> 01:04:38,000 the request in and the grass is still as 1348 01:04:38,000 --> 01:04:39,760 tall as I am. 1349 01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:41,599 Yes. Thank you, Councilwoman, for that 1350 01:04:41,599 --> 01:04:43,839 question. Um, in reference to what you 1351 01:04:43,839 --> 01:04:45,839 just referenced, um, we have if it's 1352 01:04:45,839 --> 01:04:48,880 city-owned property, um, and or any 1353 01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:50,720 other, uh, municipal or government 1354 01:04:50,720 --> 01:04:52,640 entity property, of course, we should 1355 01:04:52,640 --> 01:04:54,480 take care of our own, period. There's no 1356 01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:56,400 questions or debate about that. So, if 1357 01:04:56,400 --> 01:04:58,319 you bring any others to our attention, 1358 01:04:58,319 --> 01:05:00,880 myself or, uh, chief operating officer, 1359 01:05:00,880 --> 01:05:02,960 Mr. Subs, we have to see him get right 1360 01:05:02,960 --> 01:05:05,680 on that. Um, in regards to privately 1361 01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:08,480 owned properties, um, you may by public 1362 01:05:08,480 --> 01:05:10,480 information seem that the city can be 1363 01:05:10,480 --> 01:05:12,559 held liable for going on private 1364 01:05:12,559 --> 01:05:14,960 property without a judge order or 1365 01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:17,680 permission from that owner to cut in at 1366 01:05:17,680 --> 01:05:19,599 her site. And so, we're just following 1367 01:05:19,599 --> 01:05:22,079 the process when they go out on a site, 1368 01:05:22,079 --> 01:05:23,599 understand that it's then assigned to 1369 01:05:23,599 --> 01:05:26,799 court. Then, from there, um, if they 1370 01:05:26,799 --> 01:05:29,039 appear at that first court hearing, um, 1371 01:05:29,039 --> 01:05:30,799 the judge will, and I appreciate Judge 1372 01:05:30,799 --> 01:05:32,880 Monroe, she has been acting on those, 1373 01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:35,359 uh, individuals very promptly but if 1374 01:05:35,359 --> 01:05:37,520 they don't then there's a requirement 1375 01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:39,520 legally for them to perfect service to 1376 01:05:39,520 --> 01:05:42,240 that individual which only delays it. We 1377 01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,799 understand it is very frustrating. Uh 1378 01:05:44,799 --> 01:05:47,280 trust me um I just wanted to go on and 1379 01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,599 cut some myself because it is 1380 01:05:49,599 --> 01:05:52,000 unacceptable. Um I understand that Mayor 1381 01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,079 Milton stresses the need to keep our 1382 01:05:54,079 --> 01:05:57,200 city as clean as possible. Um, and so I 1383 01:05:57,200 --> 01:06:00,000 just ask you to stay uh work working 1384 01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:02,160 with us in regards to just getting on 1385 01:06:02,160 --> 01:06:03,760 top of it. Again, I tell you all the 1386 01:06:03,760 --> 01:06:06,799 time, you never bug us. Continue to ask, 1387 01:06:06,799 --> 01:06:09,680 continue to press and we'll do our best 1388 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,240 to try to fast line fasttrack that 1389 01:06:12,240 --> 01:06:14,319 process as quickly as we can, but if 1390 01:06:14,319 --> 01:06:15,839 nothing else, give you an answer on the 1391 01:06:15,839 --> 01:06:23,349 status. 1392 01:06:23,359 --> 01:06:24,240 Madam Chair, 1393 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:25,680 Councilman Washington, 1394 01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:30,000 um I wanted to ask um if the 1395 01:06:30,000 --> 01:06:33,839 administration had a stance on Airbnbs 1396 01:06:33,839 --> 01:06:36,880 and this is why I asked this. Um, 1397 01:06:36,880 --> 01:06:39,599 I'm for home ownership and renting for 1398 01:06:39,599 --> 01:06:41,200 home ownership, 1399 01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:42,720 but since I've been on the council, 1400 01:06:42,720 --> 01:06:46,319 we've had a plethora, a large amount of 1401 01:06:46,319 --> 01:06:48,079 Airbnbs come through the council, 1402 01:06:48,079 --> 01:06:51,039 especially in the first district. And I 1403 01:06:51,039 --> 01:06:53,200 want to make sure that we are aware that 1404 01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:55,280 I want to make sure, maybe this is 1405 01:06:55,280 --> 01:06:57,440 something that Miss Sharp can work with 1406 01:06:57,440 --> 01:07:00,799 you all on to see. I want the city as we 1407 01:07:00,799 --> 01:07:02,799 begin to rise and begin to have 1408 01:07:02,799 --> 01:07:05,200 opportunities and jobs. I want people to 1409 01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:08,559 be able to rent or either to home have a 1410 01:07:08,559 --> 01:07:12,000 home that they can own as compared to 1411 01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:17,039 renting an Airbnb. And I'm hoping 1412 01:07:17,039 --> 01:07:19,680 that certain parts of the city does not 1413 01:07:19,680 --> 01:07:22,319 come vacation destination spots because 1414 01:07:22,319 --> 01:07:24,559 people have bought a lot of property and 1415 01:07:24,559 --> 01:07:27,359 they are just using them as Airbnb. I 1416 01:07:27,359 --> 01:07:29,920 know me and Hollbert would love 1417 01:07:29,920 --> 01:07:32,319 ownership, home ownership from renters 1418 01:07:32,319 --> 01:07:34,720 in the second. I know Marian would like 1419 01:07:34,720 --> 01:07:37,039 it in the fourth, Miss Brown in the 1420 01:07:37,039 --> 01:07:38,720 third, was in the bronze pile, 1421 01:07:38,720 --> 01:07:40,240 especially in the fifth, which is a 1422 01:07:40,240 --> 01:07:44,079 large portion. And um we've had a 1423 01:07:44,079 --> 01:07:47,200 discussion we haven't finalized, but the 1424 01:07:47,200 --> 01:07:49,839 concern is about the Airbnbs just and I 1425 01:07:49,839 --> 01:07:51,039 know this is something that they did 1426 01:07:51,039 --> 01:07:54,160 downstate, but we want to make sure that 1427 01:07:54,160 --> 01:07:57,119 um we are not literally 1428 01:07:57,119 --> 01:08:00,240 pricing people out or pushing people out 1429 01:08:00,240 --> 01:08:02,799 of eventually as the beginning begin as 1430 01:08:02,799 --> 01:08:04,880 the city begins to bring more 1431 01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:08,160 development, more business, jobs that 1432 01:08:08,160 --> 01:08:10,880 people are not able to actually live in 1433 01:08:10,880 --> 01:08:14,640 the community that they're working in. 1434 01:08:14,640 --> 01:08:17,520 Um, so I'll take that back again. I 1435 01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,000 think that, um, if you go back and 1436 01:08:20,000 --> 01:08:22,159 replay some of those planning and zoning 1437 01:08:22,159 --> 01:08:25,120 meetings, um, a lot of these have 1438 01:08:25,120 --> 01:08:27,839 existed in our community for quite some 1439 01:08:27,839 --> 01:08:29,040 time. 1440 01:08:29,040 --> 01:08:31,199 What I will speak to is that I believe 1441 01:08:31,199 --> 01:08:34,080 we have as a collective um the council 1442 01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:36,480 as well as our team has done a good job 1443 01:08:36,480 --> 01:08:38,239 of telling people on what they need to 1444 01:08:38,239 --> 01:08:40,000 do to comply with the law and we're just 1445 01:08:40,000 --> 01:08:41,759 starting to see it come to fruition. 1446 01:08:41,759 --> 01:08:43,520 It's the same with the daycarees. 1447 01:08:43,520 --> 01:08:45,920 They've been there. Um we've just been 1448 01:08:45,920 --> 01:08:48,239 very diligent thanks to our code team 1449 01:08:48,239 --> 01:08:50,560 council knocking on doors, our planning 1450 01:08:50,560 --> 01:08:52,719 and development team. um they've just 1451 01:08:52,719 --> 01:08:54,400 been consistent about answering those 1452 01:08:54,400 --> 01:08:55,600 calls and tell people what they need to 1453 01:08:55,600 --> 01:08:58,239 do to become compliant, talking to state 1454 01:08:58,239 --> 01:09:00,080 um individuals and it's helping us 1455 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,960 police that a little bit better. Um as a 1456 01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:04,960 far as far as an ad an official 1457 01:09:04,960 --> 01:09:06,560 statement, I believe that should come 1458 01:09:06,560 --> 01:09:08,640 best from the mayor um who sets the 1459 01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:10,719 vision for the entire administration and 1460 01:09:10,719 --> 01:09:14,480 our team um on how we path a treasure 1461 01:09:14,480 --> 01:09:17,839 pathway for in regards to these. Um it'd 1462 01:09:17,839 --> 01:09:20,000 be hard to blanket and say what the 1463 01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:22,880 process can be. Um but to speak to also 1464 01:09:22,880 --> 01:09:24,880 your point of Airbnbs in other 1465 01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:27,120 communities, there's an Airbnb that was 1466 01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:28,880 a surprise to myself and the chief of 1467 01:09:28,880 --> 01:09:30,880 police um recently in the fourth 1468 01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,279 district um she just left but in the 1469 01:09:33,279 --> 01:09:35,679 fourth district um that right by 1470 01:09:35,679 --> 01:09:37,759 Palaskki school and I was actually 1471 01:09:37,759 --> 01:09:40,159 shocked and it has very positive glowing 1472 01:09:40,159 --> 01:09:44,400 reviews on it. Um um but um they exist I 1473 01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:46,239 think a lot more than if you go on 1474 01:09:46,239 --> 01:09:49,520 Airbnb or Verbbo and put in um you'll 1475 01:09:49,520 --> 01:09:51,600 see there's probably more than what we 1476 01:09:51,600 --> 01:09:53,600 realized. We're just seeing all of these 1477 01:09:53,600 --> 01:09:55,679 people starting to become compliant. Um, 1478 01:09:55,679 --> 01:09:58,000 so I do think we work together like 1479 01:09:58,000 --> 01:10:00,719 we've done so far this entire process 1480 01:10:00,719 --> 01:10:04,239 since 2024 on what is best and the ones 1481 01:10:04,239 --> 01:10:06,560 that won't comply, of course, they 1482 01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,480 should not be within our city because 1483 01:10:08,480 --> 01:10:09,840 they have to first get the zoning 1484 01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:12,000 approvals and the special use permits. 1485 01:10:12,000 --> 01:10:15,040 Um, and then go from there in regards to 1486 01:10:15,040 --> 01:10:17,120 at least addressing those that are not 1487 01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:18,239 going to be good stewards in the 1488 01:10:18,239 --> 01:10:19,920 neighborhood. those are the ones that 1489 01:10:19,920 --> 01:10:21,760 hurt our neighbors uh our neighborhoods 1490 01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:23,520 the most our neighbors and the residents 1491 01:10:23,520 --> 01:10:25,760 of Gary and so I think that's the first 1492 01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:28,159 start um as we move forward. So, and 1493 01:10:28,159 --> 01:10:30,159 I'll make sure I get an official um 1494 01:10:30,159 --> 01:10:32,000 perspective from the mayor. 1495 01:10:32,000 --> 01:10:34,719 And chief of staff, it's not really 1496 01:10:34,719 --> 01:10:36,880 asking for a perspective, but just 1497 01:10:36,880 --> 01:10:38,719 something to think about as we go 1498 01:10:38,719 --> 01:10:40,640 forward because I know we have a lot of 1499 01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:42,800 contractors in the city that would like 1500 01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:45,600 to rehab homes and sell them and to rent 1501 01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:47,760 them and eventually people can become 1502 01:10:47,760 --> 01:10:52,159 home owners. And I believe as the first 1503 01:10:52,159 --> 01:10:55,440 district begins to be airbed out, it's 1504 01:10:55,440 --> 01:10:57,760 going to spread across into 1505 01:10:57,760 --> 01:11:00,960 other cities if we don't get these other 1506 01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:03,600 properties rehabbed or built so they can 1507 01:11:03,600 --> 01:11:05,360 people can actually become homeowners. 1508 01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:08,080 And it's to a certain extent it's it's 1509 01:11:08,080 --> 01:11:10,320 about supply and demand and you really 1510 01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:13,199 can't make people not use their property 1511 01:11:13,199 --> 01:11:15,360 for a certain and as long as they're 1512 01:11:15,360 --> 01:11:17,199 paying property taxes because they pay a 1513 01:11:17,199 --> 01:11:18,800 different tax bracket that benefits the 1514 01:11:18,800 --> 01:11:21,280 city. But from the standpoint of council 1515 01:11:21,280 --> 01:11:23,760 members and the home ownership, um it's 1516 01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:26,880 always great um to have homeowners or 1517 01:11:26,880 --> 01:11:28,880 renters living in the community. Thank 1518 01:11:28,880 --> 01:11:31,280 you. Um Mr. Chief of Staff, 1519 01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:32,800 thank you, Councilman Washington. I'll 1520 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:34,719 just speak briefly on the first district 1521 01:11:34,719 --> 01:11:38,960 and the short-term rentals um in saying 1522 01:11:38,960 --> 01:11:41,520 that I've actually I can only speak to 1523 01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:44,640 my experience. I haven't heard a lot of 1524 01:11:44,640 --> 01:11:46,320 um I haven't gotten the same amount of 1525 01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:48,640 complaints this summer as I have gotten 1526 01:11:48,640 --> 01:11:51,920 it in previous summers. Um a the 1527 01:11:51,920 --> 01:11:54,560 proliferation I guess of short-term 1528 01:11:54,560 --> 01:11:58,159 rentals came during COVID and shortly 1529 01:11:58,159 --> 01:12:00,880 after CO when 1530 01:12:00,880 --> 01:12:04,560 there were limited travel options. Um, 1531 01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,400 since then, and again, I used to live in 1532 01:12:06,400 --> 01:12:08,880 between two short-term rentals on either 1533 01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,440 side, and both of them have gotten out 1534 01:12:11,440 --> 01:12:14,880 of the short-term rental business. Um, 1535 01:12:14,880 --> 01:12:16,960 I'll say a couple of things. One, all 1536 01:12:16,960 --> 01:12:19,679 short all Airbnbs are not the same. When 1537 01:12:19,679 --> 01:12:21,920 the owner lives locally, a lot of 1538 01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:23,600 residents in the first district also 1539 01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:26,080 have other properties that are Airbnbs. 1540 01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:28,400 They take a lot more care. They're in 1541 01:12:28,400 --> 01:12:30,640 the properties more often. there are 1542 01:12:30,640 --> 01:12:32,880 certain rules that they can implement 1543 01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,440 even on the platform saying no local 1544 01:12:35,440 --> 01:12:37,840 renters. They're more diligent about who 1545 01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:40,320 they accept as renters because they're 1546 01:12:40,320 --> 01:12:42,560 in and out of the property more often. 1547 01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:47,120 Um so those tend to be better as opposed 1548 01:12:47,120 --> 01:12:49,440 to um owners. I think at the last 1549 01:12:49,440 --> 01:12:51,440 meeting Councilman Wington talked about 1550 01:12:51,440 --> 01:12:55,520 these larger outfits that have a larger 1551 01:12:55,520 --> 01:12:58,480 portfolio of properties. So the owner 1552 01:12:58,480 --> 01:13:00,880 may not necessarily be local. They may 1553 01:13:00,880 --> 01:13:04,000 have 10 or 12 even on the platform and a 1554 01:13:04,000 --> 01:13:05,280 handful of them are in the first 1555 01:13:05,280 --> 01:13:07,760 district. That's a little different. Um 1556 01:13:07,760 --> 01:13:12,390 also 1557 01:13:12,400 --> 01:13:13,679 it must not have been important because 1558 01:13:13,679 --> 01:13:15,760 it left line. 1559 01:13:15,760 --> 01:13:19,679 Thank you Councilman Washington. 1560 01:13:19,679 --> 01:13:22,320 It happens. All the middle-aged women 1561 01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,719 out there know. 1562 01:13:24,719 --> 01:13:26,960 So, um, just a couple updates and I 1563 01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:28,800 won't be long. Um, just to answer the 1564 01:13:28,800 --> 01:13:30,000 question that was posed a little 1565 01:13:30,000 --> 01:13:32,239 earlier, um, the city of Gary, Gary 1566 01:13:32,239 --> 01:13:34,000 Police Department does have an anonymous 1567 01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:37,679 text to tip line. You can also, um, send 1568 01:13:37,679 --> 01:13:39,760 those information anonymously to the 1569 01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:41,920 Gary Police Department. So, our text to 1570 01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:47,430 tip line is 2192078477. 1571 01:13:47,440 --> 01:13:50,320 That's 219207 1572 01:13:50,320 --> 01:13:54,400 tips. Um, you can text that line 247. It 1573 01:13:54,400 --> 01:13:56,960 does go through anonymously. Um, they 1574 01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:59,280 may sometimes respond and ask follow-up 1575 01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:01,679 questions, but none of your information 1576 01:14:01,679 --> 01:14:04,159 is captured other than those anonymous 1577 01:14:04,159 --> 01:14:06,719 tips. There's also a various number of 1578 01:14:06,719 --> 01:14:08,480 emails that you can see on our city of 1579 01:14:08,480 --> 01:14:10,400 Gary website that you can send those 1580 01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,800 anonymous tips to. We always encourage 1581 01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:14,400 people if you feel like something's 1582 01:14:14,400 --> 01:14:17,440 going on, call 911. You can say, "I 1583 01:14:17,440 --> 01:14:18,880 don't want to give my name." And they'll 1584 01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,360 say, "Thank you." That's how it works. 1585 01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:22,960 You can also call the non-emergency 1586 01:14:22,960 --> 01:14:27,189 number 2196606000000000000 1587 01:14:27,199 --> 01:14:30,080 our police chief um who Derek Cannon who 1588 01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:32,640 you can talk to or our fire chief they 1589 01:14:32,640 --> 01:14:35,600 will tell you you're not a bug. We do 1590 01:14:35,600 --> 01:14:38,080 not mind. It is our job. It is our 1591 01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:40,080 service to come out and service the 1592 01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,800 public and we do it proudly. Um Miss uh 1593 01:14:42,800 --> 01:14:44,640 Mayor Meltton has talked about the 1594 01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:46,080 initiative that he put before our 1595 01:14:46,080 --> 01:14:48,320 administration and the acronym is I 1596 01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,960 serve. We serve our community. So, 1597 01:14:50,960 --> 01:14:53,120 please, it's never hesitant. I don't 1598 01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:54,719 care if you thought you heard gunshots 1599 01:14:54,719 --> 01:14:57,040 and it was fireworks. That's fine. Call 1600 01:14:57,040 --> 01:14:59,840 it in. It is our job to look at it and 1601 01:14:59,840 --> 01:15:02,320 make sure it's not a gunshot because you 1602 01:15:02,320 --> 01:15:03,440 never know. You may have called 1603 01:15:03,440 --> 01:15:05,280 something that we did not know and it 1604 01:15:05,280 --> 01:15:07,760 helps us land a case. Um, and to that 1605 01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:11,120 point, I wanted to share a release that 1606 01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,440 just came out today. Um, that was shared 1607 01:15:13,440 --> 01:15:15,280 with all of the council in the community 1608 01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:16,800 and you'll probably see it in your local 1609 01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:19,840 paper tomorrow. Um, we released the 1610 01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:21,760 midyear numbers and Chief Canon has 1611 01:15:21,760 --> 01:15:24,159 shared this at Councilman Hallebertton's 1612 01:15:24,159 --> 01:15:26,880 uh uh uh committee meeting, I'm sorry, 1613 01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:28,400 uh community meeting along with 1614 01:15:28,400 --> 01:15:31,120 Councilman Tolliver. Um the midyear 1615 01:15:31,120 --> 01:15:34,880 numbers from January 1 to uh uh 2025 to 1616 01:15:34,880 --> 01:15:39,520 June 30th, 2025, we are down 55% 1617 01:15:39,520 --> 01:15:43,440 in homicides. 55% in homicides compared 1618 01:15:43,440 --> 01:15:46,159 to this time last year. I think that's 1619 01:15:46,159 --> 01:15:50,550 amazing. 1620 01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:54,800 It also shares additional data on that report that will come out that 1621 01:15:54,800 --> 01:16:05,280 there's a 8.4% rise in patrols. Um that we had a 49% decline in nonvatal 1622 01:16:05,280 --> 01:16:08,320 overdoses. That is what the work is 1623 01:16:08,320 --> 01:16:10,640 happening in our community that we are 1624 01:16:10,640 --> 01:16:13,520 having less people overdose. Almost 50% 1625 01:16:13,520 --> 01:16:16,400 decline in overdoses. 33% down in fatal 1626 01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:19,600 traffic accidents, a 26% decline in 1627 01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:23,520 non-fatal shootings, and they have a 88% 1628 01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,679 homicide saw rate. 1629 01:16:25,679 --> 01:16:29,510 88% 1630 01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:32,480 the national average is 57%. 1631 01:16:32,480 --> 01:16:35,840 So to put that in perspective, they are 1632 01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:39,040 way surpassing the national average. I 1633 01:16:39,040 --> 01:16:41,120 say that to say that don't let the 1634 01:16:41,120 --> 01:16:43,600 people out there persuade you to think 1635 01:16:43,600 --> 01:16:45,199 that good things are not happening in 1636 01:16:45,199 --> 01:16:47,760 our community. They are. The our men and 1637 01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:50,000 women of public safety are kicking tail. 1638 01:16:50,000 --> 01:16:51,679 And so because of that, if you don't 1639 01:16:51,679 --> 01:16:53,920 believe me, come asking yourself. They 1640 01:16:53,920 --> 01:16:55,840 will be there tomorrow at our national 1641 01:16:55,840 --> 01:16:57,920 night out. You can come and join us 1642 01:16:57,920 --> 01:17:00,719 tomorrow beginning at 5:00 p. p.m. at 1643 01:17:00,719 --> 01:17:03,199 the Gary Railcat Stadium. It is a free 1644 01:17:03,199 --> 01:17:05,199 event. Bring your children, bring your 1645 01:17:05,199 --> 01:17:07,920 loved ones. Everybody can come and enjoy 1646 01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,080 a great night engaging with our public 1647 01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,480 safety officials. Um, we ask you to ask 1648 01:17:12,480 --> 01:17:14,320 them about this data. Ask them about the 1649 01:17:14,320 --> 01:17:16,239 smoke alarms they're coming install in 1650 01:17:16,239 --> 01:17:18,000 your home. Ask them about the run times 1651 01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:19,679 that they're doing. They are working 1652 01:17:19,679 --> 01:17:21,920 night and day to make our city make us 1653 01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:23,920 proud of for our city. And so we 1654 01:17:23,920 --> 01:17:25,600 appreciate them. We appreciate the 1655 01:17:25,600 --> 01:17:27,920 council for pivoting um to move your 1656 01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:29,520 council meeting to tonight. We don't 1657 01:17:29,520 --> 01:17:31,360 take that lightly. we could have had to 1658 01:17:31,360 --> 01:17:33,760 choose between the two, but um and in 1659 01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:35,920 the spirit of collaboration that's been 1660 01:17:35,920 --> 01:17:38,080 all so much, you guys were happy to make 1661 01:17:38,080 --> 01:17:39,760 this adjustment. And so on behalf of 1662 01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:41,440 Mayor Wilson, we just thank you for 1663 01:17:41,440 --> 01:17:43,440 that. Um and then the last thing I want 1664 01:17:43,440 --> 01:17:46,000 to put out there is that if you are not 1665 01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:48,239 already planning to this weekend, 1666 01:17:48,239 --> 01:17:50,960 please, please make your way down to our 1667 01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:55,199 lovely beach for our 2025 Gary Air Show. 1668 01:17:55,199 --> 01:17:57,040 The air show right now, the weather is 1669 01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:00,239 looking amazing, y'all. We are expecting 1670 01:18:00,239 --> 01:18:04,400 rain for the first time in three years. 1671 01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:06,640 So, we encourage everybody come out. 1672 01:18:06,640 --> 01:18:09,040 Please um enjoy. This is your city. You 1673 01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:10,880 deserve to enjoy it. The Thunderbirds 1674 01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:12,400 are the headliner this year and they're 1675 01:18:12,400 --> 01:18:14,640 so hard to get. Um they are expecting 1676 01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,840 it. If you see or hear planes flying 1677 01:18:17,840 --> 01:18:21,040 across your head on Thursday and Friday, 1678 01:18:21,040 --> 01:18:22,880 that is their test runs. There is no 1679 01:18:22,880 --> 01:18:25,600 emergency or no war going on. That is 1680 01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:28,480 just them practicing. But the official 1681 01:18:28,480 --> 01:18:31,440 air show is Saturday and Sunday. So we 1682 01:18:31,440 --> 01:18:33,600 encourage you all to come enjoy it. We 1683 01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:35,920 do have a space where you can sit down 1684 01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:38,080 and enjoy some of our council who will 1685 01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:40,080 be there in a tent that's right outside 1686 01:18:40,080 --> 01:18:42,960 the aquarium for our council and some of 1687 01:18:42,960 --> 01:18:44,719 our city officials who will sit there 1688 01:18:44,719 --> 01:18:47,920 and engage with our public um to also 1689 01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:49,760 just enjoy a great evening and a great 1690 01:18:49,760 --> 01:18:51,840 couple days out. So again, on behalf of 1691 01:18:51,840 --> 01:18:53,920 Mayor Milton, we just thank you for your 1692 01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:56,000 continued partnership and the residents 1693 01:18:56,000 --> 01:18:59,199 for just always being so gracious to us. 1694 01:18:59,199 --> 01:18:59,840 Thank you. 1695 01:18:59,840 --> 01:19:02,000 Chief. If there aren't any 1696 01:19:02,000 --> 01:19:04,320 other questions, 1697 01:19:04,320 --> 01:19:08,630 comments for city officials, 1698 01:19:08,640 --> 01:19:24,550 I entertain a motion for adjournment. 1699 01:19:24,560 --> 01:19:27,560 Excellent.