1 00:00:01,120 --> 00:00:05,800 Did you guys just hear a little? >> Yeah. 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:17,680 » Okay. It is 6 o'clock and I'd like to call the August 10th, 2026 city of 3 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:20,240 Geneva City Council meeting to order. Uh, can I have a roll call, please? 4 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,600 » Bravo >> here. 5 00:00:20,800 --> 00:00:24,160 » Rose >> here. 6 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:27,160 » Michael >> here. 7 00:00:27,519 --> 00:00:31,599 » Here. >> Okay. Please stand for the pledge of 8 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:37,120 allegiance followed by a prayer by pastor Elijah Fowler from the new life 9 00:00:33,840 --> 00:00:42,960 assembly of the flag of the United States of America 10 00:00:40,160 --> 00:00:50,440 and to the republic for which it stands. One nation under God, indivisible with 11 00:00:46,160 --> 00:00:50,440 liberty and justice for all. 12 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:57,199 » Father God, we thank you for today and uh just the the great summer you've 13 00:00:54,640 --> 00:01:01,280 given us. Um we're thankful for uh this great city that we live in. I pray for 14 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:05,040 this um elected officials that we have here. I just pray that you will help 15 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:10,080 them to make good decisions for us and and help us help them to be wise on 16 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:16,000 their decisions. Um and just bless them in their their servantthood serving the 17 00:01:12,159 --> 00:01:19,600 city. And we pray for the um emergency, the police, fire department, and 18 00:01:17,600 --> 00:01:23,200 ambulance services around. We just pray that you'll protect them and keep them 19 00:01:21,119 --> 00:01:29,000 safe as they they risk their lives for us in Jesus name. 20 00:01:25,840 --> 00:01:29,000 Thank you. 21 00:01:30,560 --> 00:01:37,280 » Okay, first up is the approval of minutes from our regular council meeting 22 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:42,479 at July 13, 2026. Uh were there any issues or corrections from the minutes? 23 00:01:40,880 --> 00:01:47,439 Okay, seeing none, can I have a motion to approve the minutes? 24 00:01:44,479 --> 00:01:52,360 » So move. >> Roll call, please. 25 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,360 » Rose, 26 00:01:52,799 --> 00:02:00,200 » yes. Yes. >> Sh. Yes. 27 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,200 » Yes. 28 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:14,319 » Okay. Today we have a presentation. Um really looking forward to this one by uh 29 00:02:12,080 --> 00:02:19,200 Mr. Randy Nullles from the North Coast Rockets Ultmobile Group. So floor is 30 00:02:17,360 --> 00:02:25,680 yours, sir. >> Good evening everyone. It's an honor to 31 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:32,160 be here. Um, I dress tonight as a likeness of arols, not related at all. 32 00:02:29,680 --> 00:02:37,680 And, uh, I'll give you a little bit of a history here. Uh, Ashabula, my mom and 33 00:02:35,599 --> 00:02:41,760 her twin brother were born there. My grandpa was the principal of Ashabula 34 00:02:40,319 --> 00:02:47,280 High. So, I've got a little connection here with you guys. Um, a while ago I 35 00:02:44,959 --> 00:02:54,959 was driving through town and I know that this is the birthplace of Arolas and uh 36 00:02:52,000 --> 00:03:00,959 I looked up the location and saw that the historical marker was leaning and 37 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:07,040 the brick work was falling apart and I thought I wonder if our group can help 38 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:12,959 and restore this. And so we've decided that we will restore this and we got the 39 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:18,640 okay from the state and from the city and from the current owners of the 40 00:03:14,640 --> 00:03:23,519 property uh Shane and Sarah Butler. And uh so we've removed some of the brick 41 00:03:21,680 --> 00:03:28,720 work. Now tonight we're going to take the sign to get it repainted and 42 00:03:25,200 --> 00:03:32,480 restored possibly. Um we don't know yet. We're going to see what we find. the 43 00:03:30,480 --> 00:03:36,959 pole is in bad shape and I've got a contact in Columbus to get a new pole if 44 00:03:34,720 --> 00:03:44,480 we need it. And so we're doing that and then working with Shane and Sarah uh for 45 00:03:40,159 --> 00:03:49,680 the grape jamboree we've decided to have an allmobile show on the birthplace 46 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:54,319 property and that'll be on this Saturday we're 47 00:03:51,519 --> 00:03:58,400 hoping. And at this time I'd like to introduce our president. Uh this is 48 00:03:56,640 --> 00:04:03,360 Wayne Ardo, the president of the North Coast Rockets. Hello. Thank for coming 49 00:04:00,640 --> 00:04:08,879 everybody. Um just briefly we just want to say uh really looking forward to uh 50 00:04:06,640 --> 00:04:14,959 being a part of uh the restoration of the sign out here and also uh taking uh 51 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:24,080 participating in the great jamie as well. Um we're Osmobile lovers. A lot of 52 00:04:19,280 --> 00:04:28,800 us have uh a lot of years of uh having a a likeness for just one type of car and 53 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:35,759 one type only and that will be mobiles. And uh our group is currently boast a 54 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:39,759 membership of uh close to 240 members right now. Those are dues paying 55 00:04:37,360 --> 00:04:44,560 members. Uh we've been in existence now we're just going into our fifth year and 56 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:52,400 we're associated with the club of America. were an an affiliated chapter 57 00:04:48,479 --> 00:04:57,040 and in that short period of time we've grown to be I believe the second or 58 00:04:54,560 --> 00:05:03,360 third largest chapter in the United States. So uh there's a ton of uh ton of 59 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:08,960 uh u that's the word I'm looking for. There's 60 00:05:05,919 --> 00:05:14,320 just a a a ton of excitement and we've got a lot of people that are really into 61 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:21,120 these cars and we've also are participating in uh sponsoring uh a car 62 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:26,880 at the Aro Museum in Lancing, Michigan. So, uh we're heavily involved with uh 63 00:05:24,639 --> 00:05:32,400 just trying to keep the name alive and keep the cars alive. So, um, that's 64 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:36,960 about all I got for you. And, uh, if you got any questions, uh, feel free to 65 00:05:35,039 --> 00:05:44,320 reach out to us. But, uh, we're going to be removing the sign tonight like Randy 66 00:05:39,840 --> 00:05:49,120 said. And, uh, I am a painter by trade. Joe is works in the auto body 67 00:05:46,720 --> 00:05:52,400 profession. And between the two of us, we're going to restore this the 68 00:05:50,400 --> 00:05:59,280 historical marker and get it reerected. So, uh, thank you so much for your time. 69 00:05:56,080 --> 00:06:04,240 Also, if you have any thoughts or help needed in the future, we're here for 70 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:07,639 you. >> Any questions? 71 00:06:08,479 --> 00:06:17,199 » I think it's super. >> I'll use the word super. 72 00:06:14,240 --> 00:06:22,800 » That's an 88. >> But, uh, yeah, I'm a car enthusiast 73 00:06:19,280 --> 00:06:26,880 myself and, uh, it's great that you guys have come back to do this. 74 00:06:26,960 --> 00:06:33,600 I've always thought we should advertise it more 75 00:06:31,680 --> 00:06:38,400 place, but it's always led towards grapes instead 76 00:06:35,840 --> 00:06:42,160 of old mobilebiles. I'm glad you guys came. Thank you. 77 00:06:40,560 --> 00:06:45,600 » Thank you for taking the initiative to to fix that. 78 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:51,360 » Real briefly, the one of the very first Old Club of America National meets was 79 00:06:48,560 --> 00:06:57,759 actually held here in Geneva. That would have been in the early to mid70s. 80 00:06:55,360 --> 00:07:01,759 So there's a little connection there as well. So I don't know if anybody here 81 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:05,400 now remembers that, but >> I can remember it. 82 00:07:05,520 --> 00:07:10,479 » Say it. >> He was he was 83 00:07:08,160 --> 00:07:14,880 » if anybody has an old mobile and wants to join our group, you're welcome. 84 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:19,759 It would be nice to get that information about, you know, hey, the first one, um, 85 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:24,960 just as something to put up on a on a site around here, you know. 86 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:30,000 » Okay. And, um, we have the, uh, I know little talked about the sign being 87 00:07:27,039 --> 00:07:34,639 refurbished. Um, I don't know if they'd be interested in that at all, knowing 88 00:07:31,919 --> 00:07:39,599 more about that. You want, Mr. >> Yeah, thank you, Mr. Baker. Yeah, we um, 89 00:07:37,440 --> 00:07:43,599 and I know Randy and I had had a brief discussion about this as well. In fact, 90 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:46,880 our recctor is here, uh, Vikings and staff. 91 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:52,160 » Uh, we've been working on this project. I think a lot of the the locals know 92 00:07:49,360 --> 00:07:58,080 that we had signs around town, uh, acknowledging Ariold's Virginia as 93 00:07:54,560 --> 00:08:02,639 Ariold's birthplace. Those signs got old to the point where they were actually 94 00:07:59,520 --> 00:08:08,960 taken down. So, uh, we've we've undertaken a process, a project where 95 00:08:05,599 --> 00:08:14,800 we're having them see signs, uh, replicated and and where it is now, the 96 00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:21,919 the sign manufacturer that we're working with had an automobile on on the the 97 00:08:19,039 --> 00:08:27,199 design, but it wasn't historically accurate. And that's kind of where we 98 00:08:23,440 --> 00:08:31,840 left at where I know uh the members of this group can definitely help us and 99 00:08:29,919 --> 00:08:38,320 assure that we have the appropriate vehicle on on our signs acknowledging 100 00:08:35,919 --> 00:08:41,919 our adults and just making his birth choice. So 101 00:08:40,479 --> 00:08:46,080 that's kind of where that's at at this point. So it's actually not far from 102 00:08:44,000 --> 00:08:50,800 from finish as far as production goes. 103 00:08:48,640 --> 00:08:54,320 » Yeah. And and what would that vehicle be? I guess my question 104 00:08:52,720 --> 00:08:57,920 » mobile 1902 I believe curve dash. 105 00:08:57,279 --> 00:09:02,399 » Yeah. >> Yeah. 106 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:09,279 » And I Mr. President also I know I've seen uh pictures of of Mr. Rolls 107 00:09:06,720 --> 00:09:12,000 driving some of these. Was it a curved dash? 108 00:09:09,760 --> 00:09:14,399 » It was a curved dash. It was 1905. They look very similar. 109 00:09:14,080 --> 00:09:18,959 » Yes. >> That's the curved dash. 110 00:09:15,839 --> 00:09:23,519 » I got you. Okay. Okay, that's great. >> Thank you guys. So, thank you so much. 111 00:09:21,680 --> 00:09:28,880 » It's great to know that we have, you know, where to go to as well. So, who 112 00:09:26,320 --> 00:09:34,320 the experts are with respect to the history of 113 00:09:31,440 --> 00:09:40,320 I will just say one more final thing. A while back when we were talking about 114 00:09:35,680 --> 00:09:46,160 the signs, I I know our local media uh covered this uh discussion and I 115 00:09:43,519 --> 00:09:52,080 received a phone call from a gentleman who identified himself as being married 116 00:09:48,720 --> 00:09:56,240 to the granddaughter of Ari. Uh and I know I just I shared that 117 00:09:54,399 --> 00:09:59,839 briefly with with our visitors tonight and we had a wonderful discussion. They 118 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:05,200 as well said they you know they would be more than willing to assist us. And I 119 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:08,640 but I also said that you know it turns out that he wasn't actually married to 120 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:13,200 Ario's granddaughter. We you know you know I guess the joke was on me but um 121 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:18,800 but we had a great discussion and and people take take note of this and and 122 00:10:15,920 --> 00:10:23,200 there's a lot of interest. So >> we're excited to be a part of it. 123 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:26,240 » Thank you so much. >> Very good. 124 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:29,920 » Thanks so much for having us. >> Thank you. 125 00:10:28,079 --> 00:10:32,959 » All right. Well, that brings us to our first 126 00:10:31,279 --> 00:10:36,800 citizens portion. If there are any citizens who would like to address 127 00:10:34,399 --> 00:10:40,200 council, uh, please stand and state your name and address. 128 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:52,560 » Hi, my name is Cor. This is my wife, Lisa. We just opened a year ago in um in 129 00:10:48,480 --> 00:10:58,000 June, Cam Cycle at 147 West Street. >> We're caddy corner to um Circle K. We're 130 00:10:56,160 --> 00:11:06,160 in the all-white building. It used to be DD Automotive. Um, 131 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:12,079 we have had multiple multiple runins with we are right across the street from 132 00:11:08,640 --> 00:11:16,480 the park that's next to Capos Pizza and there are a bunch of I guess you would 133 00:11:13,920 --> 00:11:22,399 call them now residents that are the homeless that live over there. 134 00:11:19,200 --> 00:11:27,680 Um, this is a problem and I and I don't think I'm bringing up any issue that has 135 00:11:25,600 --> 00:11:32,880 probably not already been recognized by anybody here. I, you know, like I I 136 00:11:30,000 --> 00:11:41,440 don't want to be tipping a dead horse, but um, my wife now carries around Mace 137 00:11:37,519 --> 00:11:46,640 with her pepper spray. We've had Max, which I'm sure you're all 138 00:11:44,399 --> 00:11:53,200 familiar with, come flying over on his motorcycle onto our property, 139 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:59,519 threatening my wife, calling her um referring to her as for which 140 00:11:55,839 --> 00:12:06,000 we've had to call the police on and have them show up. Um, this last I believe it 141 00:12:02,959 --> 00:12:10,800 was Thursday night at 11:44 in the evening because we have cameras around 142 00:12:07,920 --> 00:12:14,399 the building, we have a homeless guy that I'm not sure what his name is, but 143 00:12:12,639 --> 00:12:19,120 I'm sure we've all seen him and he walks the dog around here with him. He has a 144 00:12:16,399 --> 00:12:24,079 pitbull that he walks with him around the city. Most of the time he's 145 00:12:20,560 --> 00:12:30,000 shirtless. Well, at 11:44 at night, he showed up on our camera and he had his 146 00:12:27,279 --> 00:12:35,839 dog sit up on the bench of our picnic table and sitting out on our property 147 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:42,160 next to our shop as he decided to urinate on the end of the picnic table 148 00:12:38,880 --> 00:12:45,920 » was not the first guy, >> the dog or the man. 149 00:12:43,680 --> 00:12:53,839 » No, [clears throat] the man the human whipped it out. No, it's not 150 00:12:49,839 --> 00:13:00,800 not just clarify. >> Right. So, 151 00:12:57,040 --> 00:13:06,160 we have Tim, which we've never had firsthand an issue with him, but Tim 152 00:13:04,240 --> 00:13:12,959 quite frequently stands around and has arguments with himself. Um, 153 00:13:10,720 --> 00:13:19,600 you know, I I've spoken to the police with the officers and they know Tim and 154 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:23,120 they know Tim is probably quote unquote not a threat, but with someone that 155 00:13:21,519 --> 00:13:29,279 talks to themselves, you know, never know when it's going to turn on us. 156 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:34,880 We bought broad brought our business here. We are 157 00:13:32,320 --> 00:13:38,639 » we are in our eighth year of business. We decided to go out into the public and 158 00:13:37,279 --> 00:13:43,279 you know what? Honestly, I'm really having second thoughts about it. I mean, 159 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:47,040 it we ran our shop out of the back of our house. We built onto the back of our 160 00:13:45,279 --> 00:13:54,639 house or and had our business established 161 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:59,040 there. Um, now I brought this to and we had the officers come down and discuss 162 00:13:56,639 --> 00:14:05,120 this with us. Then it goes to and I guess this is 163 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:09,760 because it goes to a prosecutor and they go and it it was officer Keeler that 164 00:14:07,360 --> 00:14:13,839 came out and spoke with us. Then it goes to a prosecutor and the prosecutor 165 00:14:11,680 --> 00:14:18,320 decides what they want to do. But the fact of the matter is 166 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:23,839 what's what's realistically and it's been explained to me is going to happen 167 00:14:20,480 --> 00:14:25,360 is they'll issue a ticket. They'll he'll have to go to court. 168 00:14:25,264 --> 00:14:34,399 » [clears throat] >> We now have to go to court as a witness. 169 00:14:30,480 --> 00:14:40,000 He'll get a ticket. He will go to jail and then he'll be turned right back out 170 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:45,600 on the street. So where is the solution in this? Where is the 171 00:14:42,959 --> 00:14:51,680 we bring our business here and now we are victims to the homeless people that 172 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:56,720 are allowed to live in the park that allowed to roam around the city. What 173 00:14:54,160 --> 00:15:00,639 happened in the old days of the western movies when the sheriff walks up to the 174 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:06,639 edge of town and says, "You know what? That's it. Don't come back." 175 00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:12,160 What What are we doing about getting rid of these homeless people? They They 176 00:15:09,279 --> 00:15:17,000 serve no purpose. They're not paying taxes. They're living free. 177 00:15:17,519 --> 00:15:25,519 I one of the things that the one of the officers had explained to my wife was 178 00:15:22,000 --> 00:15:30,000 it's not as bad as Astra Gila. You know what? I don't care how bad it 179 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:37,279 is in Astra. I'm concerned with us and us where we 180 00:15:34,079 --> 00:15:44,800 all have businesses, where we pay taxes, where we earn our keep to be here. 181 00:15:41,279 --> 00:15:52,160 And now we have to be afraid. We have to get our things where it's a 182 00:15:48,079 --> 00:15:56,639 public urinal. Come on. We we we need to do better than that. 183 00:15:54,320 --> 00:16:00,399 Something needs to happen here. >> So, I just wanted to bring this to the 184 00:15:58,240 --> 00:16:04,000 city council and that's what I advised. That's 185 00:16:02,720 --> 00:16:10,279 » what your last name is. >> My name is Craig McKim. 186 00:16:06,399 --> 00:16:10,279 C I 187 00:16:13,680 --> 00:16:16,920 just wanted 188 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:25,240 » we don't have any sort of >> I mean I guess 189 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:34,480 » yeah I mean at this point there's yeah I mean it comes up every every meeting and 190 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:37,120 we're a discussion about it but we have no statement 191 00:16:39,519 --> 00:16:44,440 I got a couple pictures today on my phone. 192 00:16:44,560 --> 00:16:50,040 » Oh, I I know it seems to be getting I mean 193 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:56,320 » taking up a parking spot in the middle of the road, 194 00:16:54,800 --> 00:16:59,120 » if I may. >> So, so what we have done, we have 195 00:16:57,920 --> 00:17:04,160 increased a little bit of the foot patrol around downtown area and trying 196 00:17:01,279 --> 00:17:08,559 to move them along. We have just had Max and Tim in jail. They stayed for a 197 00:17:07,360 --> 00:17:11,520 couple weeks. They went through their court date. They got released out on the 198 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:15,439 street. The gentleman you're talking about, the dog, we don't know what that 199 00:17:13,839 --> 00:17:22,400 is. Did you call us when that happened? >> Yes. Oh, yeah. And Officer Keeler has 200 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:27,839 the videos that we had recorded on our cameras. It's all been submitted to him. 201 00:17:25,120 --> 00:17:33,600 He has submitted a report. I believe the report was turned in last Friday. 202 00:17:31,039 --> 00:17:36,559 No, I hadn't seen that one yet then. But uh yes, I mean it's not like we're 203 00:17:35,039 --> 00:17:42,480 ignoring the problem, but there's only so much we can do. We have affected 204 00:17:38,720 --> 00:17:44,640 arrests when we could, but I mean unfortunately that's the just the cycle 205 00:17:43,840 --> 00:17:52,160 right now. >> And and I guess the issue is I I know 206 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:57,280 the police can do so much. What is the solution to the problem? because they do 207 00:17:54,960 --> 00:18:02,160 they go through their process the fines the jail and exactly what you say turned 208 00:18:00,480 --> 00:18:07,200 back out of the street. What has changed? Nothing. A homeless person 209 00:18:04,799 --> 00:18:11,440 doesn't have, you know, a couple hundred. Well, they didn't have it in 210 00:18:09,039 --> 00:18:15,679 the first place and they had a nice place to sleep for a couple nights. What 211 00:18:13,360 --> 00:18:19,600 is the punishment there? >> But again, I agree with you. I think 212 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:23,039 homelessness is complex. A, right? Every situation could be different with each 213 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:27,520 of those people. addiction, employment, a combination of 214 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:30,400 all those. So, I agree. I would hate to put a broad brush on just a person's 215 00:18:29,039 --> 00:18:32,799 situation out there because we don't know, 216 00:18:31,039 --> 00:18:36,400 » but I agree with you. I think from my standpoint, how can we look at is there 217 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:40,000 anything else that other communities are doing, right? Is there any other 218 00:18:37,600 --> 00:18:42,320 research we could do or have an ordinance they don't allow them in 219 00:18:41,280 --> 00:18:44,880 communities? >> An ordinance ordinance where they're 220 00:18:43,919 --> 00:18:46,480 banned, they're not allowed in the community. 221 00:18:45,840 --> 00:18:49,679 » Yeah. >> So, so as a result of that ordinance 222 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:52,960 though, I think like what are those mechanisms like them out? So when 223 00:18:51,679 --> 00:18:56,640 Kanyard when they have homeless personnel there that return the city 224 00:18:54,559 --> 00:18:58,880 they then in fact l the police vehicles and remove them from the community 225 00:18:58,080 --> 00:19:02,400 » to where >> to like the one individually they take 226 00:19:00,799 --> 00:19:05,679 her back to like Ashville Township where she resides at. So if she's walking on 227 00:19:03,919 --> 00:19:08,000 Route 20 they find her in the community because she's been abandoned. 228 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:11,840 » Correct. But if they live here where do you 229 00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:16,799 » don't live here they're homeless. >> If they're living in the park if they're 230 00:19:13,679 --> 00:19:20,559 sleeping in that park night after night they're not residents. They're not 231 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:25,600 paying taxes. Exactly what you're saying. 232 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:28,559 Just like the old days of the western city say your limits and you're done. 233 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:33,520 » Yeah. >> Chief, what are what are the the legally 234 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:37,200 like when does it become loitering? What what 235 00:19:34,720 --> 00:19:39,520 » when ordinance when an ordinance says when an ordinance says it's loitering? 236 00:19:39,039 --> 00:19:43,640 » Pardon me. >> When an ordinance says it's loitering. 237 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:53,360 » Two individuals. where either of the one 238 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:57,360 the other two one is facing a charge which has gone to the county 239 00:19:54,640 --> 00:20:01,200 prosecutor's office that's pending so I don't know what's going to happen to 240 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:07,280 that but a felony is a serious event the other spent 12 days in jail entered the 241 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:13,679 plea he had been in the hospital uh in war psychiatric hospital when he 242 00:20:11,360 --> 00:20:19,280 was released hospital in the sheriff's department 243 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:24,640 back to Geneva. Unfortunately, he's here again and he did spend we have 244 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:34,039 a 12day limit on the jail. He did spend 12 days. He's facing more jail if he 245 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:34,039 continues to do what he has done 246 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:40,240 at the park and all that. He could be picked up again. We can't just pick him 247 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:44,480 up and take them elsewhere and drop them off of the county line. That's not how 248 00:20:42,320 --> 00:20:47,520 it works. You can't do that. That may be the old days with the sheriff 249 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:52,720 department, but it doesn't work nowadays. 250 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:57,360 » The point made is we're not ignoring it. >> The city's doing what we can do. They 251 00:20:55,039 --> 00:21:03,520 have spent time in jail. They will get released. They may spend more time in 252 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:09,679 jail because they're going to get the suspended part of the sentence that was 253 00:21:06,799 --> 00:21:16,000 suspended plus more time. And we only have a 12 day limit on our jail time. 254 00:21:13,360 --> 00:21:21,039 account and one individual is facing county time and will probably get county 255 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:26,720 guidance. Both these two of these both these individuals have real serious 256 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:31,919 mental problems. City doesn't can't deal with those who 257 00:21:30,159 --> 00:21:36,159 have those mental problems. There's not anything we can't hospitalize them. We 258 00:21:34,159 --> 00:21:41,679 can't, you know, take care of them or send them elsewhere. And they have been 259 00:21:39,039 --> 00:21:45,679 there, but they do get out. >> Yeah. 260 00:21:43,360 --> 00:21:49,679 I mean, this isn't going to be resolved overnight, but the point to be made is 261 00:21:47,679 --> 00:21:53,200 the city's ignoring it by any means. It's unfortunate what you're going 262 00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:58,080 through, but we're dealing with it. Chief Camper and these police officers 263 00:21:55,200 --> 00:22:01,919 are doing the best they can and I feel prosecutor's offices and I would 264 00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:06,559 certainly encourage us maybe to look into what other communities do. I mean, 265 00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:13,200 this is not an issue that's going away and we do want to address it. How you do 266 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:17,760 that humanely and you know legally and and effectively. I I'd like to see what 267 00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:25,679 other communities do. I think that would be a good good thing for us to do. Maybe 268 00:22:22,799 --> 00:22:30,559 » Yeah. I Mr. Pascal, I'm just curious. Uh, in a case where a law enforcement 269 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:37,360 official would would take an individual and take this from jail back to Geneva, 270 00:22:35,520 --> 00:22:43,400 are they required to take this person to an address or can they be taken to the 271 00:22:40,400 --> 00:22:43,400 pavilion? 272 00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:52,440 » Says, "I live in Geneva." He doesn't care where he gets dropped off and then 273 00:22:48,080 --> 00:22:52,440 sheriff's department just drop them off. 274 00:22:52,720 --> 00:22:58,559 » Is that what you're going to say? >> Yeah, basically that's where it is. We 275 00:22:55,760 --> 00:23:03,760 it's called courtesy rides like attack like we've talked about in the past 276 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:07,760 where he has been psychiatric inst uh mentally mentally instituted for a 277 00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:13,600 little bit and as soon as he was released he got a ride either uh because 278 00:23:11,120 --> 00:23:18,240 he does have income. He Ubered up here one time and even the other time he got 279 00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:23,760 the county line and the sheriff uh deputy drove him back to to the city. I 280 00:23:21,120 --> 00:23:28,720 mean when we can't like uh Mr. passible and said we can't remove people from 281 00:23:26,559 --> 00:23:32,799 here to those to the to just outside that those days are gone because we're 282 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:38,640 liable at that point in time if he got dropped off and something were to happen 283 00:23:34,799 --> 00:23:42,679 at that point in time. We can't do that. >> I I can understand where 284 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:50,480 you decided to come to Geneva. >> Yeah. 285 00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:54,400 » Building was great. It's as clean as this floor, right? 286 00:23:51,679 --> 00:24:01,200 » And uh for him to have to deal with it or any merchant in town and and the I I 287 00:23:58,400 --> 00:24:06,960 watched the other day with with one of our guys sleeping on a a bench and 288 00:24:04,960 --> 00:24:12,000 they're very intimidating. I I watched people head to the hardware store, 289 00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:16,880 stop for a second, look at it, turn around, go the other way. 290 00:24:14,640 --> 00:24:21,200 You know, we work too hard to try and get business. So, I agree. Hopefully we 291 00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:27,799 can come up with something that right, you know, a solution or a way to to help 292 00:24:24,559 --> 00:24:27,799 with this. 293 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:32,159 » I mean, is it >> Yeah, there's an influx. There's 294 00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:34,080 probably five or six at least. >> Is it something for like a safety 295 00:24:33,600 --> 00:24:37,760 committee? >> I I think so. I think John is the chair 296 00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:41,679 of that. I mean, we could have a safety committee meeting at least saying set a 297 00:24:40,240 --> 00:24:45,760 date and then say, "Hey, let's try to all look at some solutions or ideas. 298 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:49,279 They may work, they may not, but let's try to at least continue to think 299 00:24:47,919 --> 00:24:53,279 because obviously our law enforcement's doing what they can. Our city's trying. 300 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:56,320 I know that all several of these guys have been offered help, right? They're 301 00:24:54,720 --> 00:24:59,200 not taking it, but we don't want something to happen to your business 302 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:02,200 again or you or anyone else. >> Right. 303 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:15,039 » Just advised people to just keep calling you though, right? 304 00:25:12,799 --> 00:25:18,159 » Yeah, absolutely. Yes. And then as far as the uh the man with the dog, we're in 305 00:25:16,799 --> 00:25:19,600 the process of trying to identify him now. 306 00:25:19,120 --> 00:25:21,760 » So, >> okay. Say it again. 307 00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:24,640 » We're in the process of trying to identify him. 308 00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:30,080 » Okay. I think they have him identified. They thought initially that it was a guy 309 00:25:27,039 --> 00:25:34,320 named Hener, but they went to his house. He was not there. And then Officer 310 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:39,039 Keeler came over. >> Yeah. And he I showed him the guy and he 311 00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:43,279 went down the street. He did make contact with him. 312 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:49,039 » So, he does know who he who it is. And he did file a report that should have 313 00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:51,919 been turned in by this last Friday. >> It should have been returned. He said 314 00:25:51,039 --> 00:25:55,360 Friday. >> This this last Friday the report should 315 00:25:53,919 --> 00:25:59,840 have been turned in I think because that was the end of his shift and I was down 316 00:25:58,159 --> 00:26:02,640 » and that was Friday morning I think or Friday or Thursday night. He wasn't here 317 00:26:01,919 --> 00:26:04,559 Friday. >> Okay. 318 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,880 » He comes back tonight. >> Okay. It was he was working second 319 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:12,600 shift. >> Yes. And that's it was at the end of 320 00:26:09,039 --> 00:26:12,600 that. Um 321 00:26:13,279 --> 00:26:21,520 he it it they they told me because I was back down there on Friday, I believe. 322 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:27,679 » Maybe I was there on Thursday. I'm going to get my days mixed up. How many times 323 00:26:24,000 --> 00:26:35,200 interactions? Um they said there should be some sort of um decision hopefully 324 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:38,080 made by this Monday meeting today is is what was explained to me from dispatch 325 00:26:37,360 --> 00:26:41,279 was okay >> the day that I went down there through 326 00:26:39,919 --> 00:26:42,400 talk through the glass. >> Okay. 327 00:26:41,600 --> 00:26:46,480 » Okay. >> So evidently that um it's in process. 328 00:26:45,919 --> 00:26:52,159 » Yes sir. >> All right. Thank you Mr. I mean we we do 329 00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:56,559 take it seriously. We I mean it is a complex problem. I would like to refer 330 00:26:54,320 --> 00:27:00,400 that to the safety committee. Um, we'll keep doing our what we can from a law 331 00:26:58,559 --> 00:27:05,120 enforcement standpoint and a legal standpoint and we will, you know, look 332 00:27:02,799 --> 00:27:09,200 at other other avenues as well to get them to see what help is out there. And 333 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:14,243 so, you know, I would like to refer that to your your safety committee and we can 334 00:27:11,679 --> 00:27:16,320 set up a time to start looking at that. [clears throat] 335 00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:19,039 » John, myself, and Brad, I believe. >> Yeah. Thank you. 336 00:27:17,279 --> 00:27:23,120 » Yeah. Thank you. We really I mean, we hear you. We take it seriously. we all 337 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:28,159 work, you know, the new businesses coming down there and, you know, it it's 338 00:27:25,600 --> 00:27:31,840 it it takes away from that and and so we're trying. 339 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:37,360 » Yeah. And and our business, you know, going out from being in our house doing 340 00:27:34,159 --> 00:27:41,520 public is substantially grown and you know, we're getting foot traffic and so 341 00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:46,480 there's a lot of good things going on, right? But no, no one wants to go into 342 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:51,360 work and dread going into work because you have to deal with an issue like this 343 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:56,559 that's so not related to all the other issues of what you're 344 00:27:53,760 --> 00:27:59,440 exactly extracurricular activities, right? Thank you for coming in and we 345 00:27:58,159 --> 00:28:02,000 and we will >> we'll do our best. 346 00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:06,000 » Thank you. I'll be back next month, please. All right. Please do. No, 347 00:28:04,159 --> 00:28:13,520 please. We will. All right. >> Yes. Um any other residents? 348 00:28:10,399 --> 00:28:17,919 I'm trying to make my public if I can touch on that previous issue. Shardan 349 00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:21,600 had identical problem. I believe they criminalize sleeping in a public park 350 00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:26,640 and just in public and that solve their issue. So that might be something they 351 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:29,600 want to look into. All right. All right. Member council, 352 00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:33,919 thank you for the opportunity to speak again. My name is Joe Capell and I 353 00:28:31,120 --> 00:28:36,960 reside at 170 Green Ridge. I'm here to address city's prohibition 354 00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:39,919 on commercial trailers and residential properties and the shockingly 355 00:28:38,240 --> 00:28:43,840 inconsistent way that ordinance appears to be enforced. Several obvious 356 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:46,960 commercial trailers complete with logos and graphics are currently stored in 357 00:28:45,200 --> 00:28:49,760 residential properties within the city. At least two of them remain plainly 358 00:28:48,240 --> 00:28:53,440 visible from South Broadway for more than a year. Yet a review western county 359 00:28:51,919 --> 00:28:56,640 court record shows no related case against those property owners. 360 00:28:55,200 --> 00:29:00,320 Concession truck operates within the city's also regularly stored in 361 00:28:57,919 --> 00:29:04,080 residence on Centennial. In glaring contrast, last week I 362 00:29:02,159 --> 00:29:06,960 received a certified letter from zoning warning I would face criminal charges, 363 00:29:05,919 --> 00:29:10,640 including the possibility of incarceration if my 12x 8 foot 364 00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:15,600 concession trailer remains in my residence beyond the 1 to 2 hour period 365 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:18,640 zoning says I'm allowed loading or unloading. 366 00:29:17,120 --> 00:29:22,159 I have complied with zoning's prior direction not to store the trailer at my 367 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:26,240 residence. This year has been there only twice for less than 48 hours each time. 368 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:30,960 Yet the latest warning accused me attempting certain event that ordinance. 369 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,880 Meanwhile, I commercial trailers are parked [clears throat] in other 370 00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:37,760 residential properties for months or years without apparent enforcement. That 371 00:29:35,039 --> 00:29:40,640 disparity should concern everyone here. As council may remember, I previously 372 00:29:39,279 --> 00:29:44,320 appeared regarding anonymous letter concerning my property. Given the 373 00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:47,600 circumstances, I strongly suspect the same individuals responsible for a 374 00:29:45,679 --> 00:29:49,840 complaint about my trailer. Even more pointant is the fact there's been a 375 00:29:48,799 --> 00:29:53,120 commercial trailer in residence literally across the street from me. I'm 376 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:55,760 guessing no complaints have been made about it, which even further 377 00:29:54,159 --> 00:30:00,799 delegitimizes any complaints made against me. If so, this demonstrates how 378 00:29:58,559 --> 00:30:03,919 a selectively enforced orbits can be weaponized by one disgruntled person 379 00:30:02,559 --> 00:30:09,039 pursue their ridiculous personal grievances. I'm not presently blaming 380 00:30:06,799 --> 00:30:12,720 zoning for responding to a complaint. But once the city is aware that material 381 00:30:10,559 --> 00:30:15,680 similar conditions exist elsewhere, condition continuing to threaten one 382 00:30:14,399 --> 00:30:17,600 resident with criminal prosecution. [clears throat] 383 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:21,679 While the same conduct is openly permitted at other properties is 384 00:30:19,279 --> 00:30:25,440 impossible to justify. The trailer issue is by far not the only occurrence of my 385 00:30:23,440 --> 00:30:29,279 being warned for alleged issues that are commonly permitted in numerous other 386 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:32,559 residences. Packet I provided contains photographs of my trailer, dated 387 00:30:31,279 --> 00:30:35,919 photographs of other commercial trailers going back more than a year and property 388 00:30:34,559 --> 00:30:41,200 records for those locations showing their zone residential. I do want to be 389 00:30:38,559 --> 00:30:45,039 clear. I am not asking the city to site those residents. Answer to unequal 390 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:50,559 enforcement is not to punish everyone equally. Best answer is to fix an 391 00:30:47,679 --> 00:30:53,919 unnecessarily broad ordinance. Geneva's own zoning policies already recognize 392 00:30:52,320 --> 00:30:58,240 residential and limited commercial use can coexist. City permits homebased 393 00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:01,360 businesses, allows certain accessory structures to support them and permits 394 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:05,039 recreational vehicles to be stored in residential properties. A clean, 395 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:08,720 registered commercial trailer of reasonable size does not become harmful 396 00:31:07,039 --> 00:31:12,880 merely because it purpose is commercial rather than recreational. I'm asking 397 00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:16,320 council take steps to permit one commercial trailer per residential 398 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:22,080 property subject to appropriate limits on size condition setbacks screening 399 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:25,760 registration and nuisance concerns that would regulate actual impacts safety 400 00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:29,200 appearance traffic and neighborhood conditions rather than imposing absolute 401 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:34,000 prohibition based solely on classification. I ask council to place 402 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:37,679 his proposal on upcoming agenda referred to promptly review and consider a 403 00:31:35,600 --> 00:31:41,200 temporary moratorum on enforcement except for an actual health or safety 404 00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:44,799 issue exists while the amendment is considered. Packet I provide also 405 00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:48,320 contains proposed ordinance language and structure for council review and 406 00:31:46,080 --> 00:31:52,159 convenience. No resident should face criminal prosecution because one person 407 00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:56,080 discovered that inconsistently enforced ordinance can be used as a weapon. The 408 00:31:54,480 --> 00:32:01,279 answer is clear standards, reasonable regulation, and equal enforcement. Thank 409 00:31:58,559 --> 00:32:01,279 you. 410 00:32:01,519 --> 00:32:04,519 173, 411 00:32:05,039 --> 00:32:10,880 » please. >> Uh, Phyllis, in the ordinance updates or 412 00:32:08,399 --> 00:32:16,640 the zoning updates that we did, um, was this altered as at all? 413 00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:20,799 » I know that there were so many changes. What again would a viable place I'm just 414 00:32:19,360 --> 00:32:24,559 thinking like the planning commission which deals with kind of setbacks and 415 00:32:22,559 --> 00:32:30,159 things like that and they are the ones who kind of led right the zoning updates 416 00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:34,880 with the zoning inspector. Would that be a viable place for them to 417 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:39,200 consider any for them to review this language? So you have the planning 418 00:32:36,640 --> 00:32:43,760 commission which is dealing with this citizens on and council votes. Perhaps 419 00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:48,240 they could be an effective place to just take up the question. I don't know very 420 00:32:45,360 --> 00:32:53,039 what you're about to >> Mr. President. 421 00:32:50,159 --> 00:32:57,519 So there that was a lot. Um you presented a lot in in your in your 422 00:32:55,360 --> 00:33:02,960 statement. I'm hearing a couple things. I'm hearing um you know 423 00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:07,039 inconsistencies in the ordinance and I'm also hearing inconsistencies in 424 00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:10,399 enforcement. Yes. So to me those are two very different things. So I think we 425 00:33:08,799 --> 00:33:15,120 have to look at those you know separately. To Mr. Herb's point you know 426 00:33:12,880 --> 00:33:19,279 I think the evaluating looking at the current ordinance and you know what the 427 00:33:17,440 --> 00:33:23,679 requirements are under our current zoning is something that you know needs 428 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:29,919 to be needs to be looked at with respect to what you're bringing to the table. Um 429 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:34,000 but also again you know your statement that you know the enforcement has not 430 00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:37,519 been consistent you know is something that can be addressed as well. I don't 431 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:40,480 know that to be I mean I'm listening to you I've heard what you had to say that 432 00:33:39,039 --> 00:33:46,320 is definitely something that I can look into. Um on the other aspect though of 433 00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:52,000 the actual ordinance or ordinances itself the code or codes again that's 434 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:55,200 something that would have to say no commercial trailers or residences 435 00:33:54,720 --> 00:33:59,840 I'm sorry >> it says no commercial trailers or 436 00:33:56,480 --> 00:34:03,559 residences that part's pretty clear inconsistency there 437 00:34:08,720 --> 00:34:13,119 » is the code that you're looking 438 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:21,079 or the one that's >> I believe I believed 439 00:34:21,839 --> 00:34:27,839 so >> yeah maybe it was addressed we'll look 440 00:34:25,839 --> 00:34:32,480 into that >> Mr. President, again, just one final 441 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:37,200 point on I think you use the the phrase selective enforcement. Yes, 442 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:43,040 » when it comes to zoning, you know, our our objective is to be as fair as 443 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:48,000 possible all at all times, evaluate every situation and, you know, be as 444 00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:52,639 fair as possible. Um there, you know, we are out there. We're there there are 445 00:34:50,320 --> 00:34:56,480 things that that we identify that have not been reported to us. There are 446 00:34:54,800 --> 00:35:01,520 things that are reported to us that we go and follow up on. Sometimes there 447 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:05,520 might be confusion with with with that. You know, we have often times people 448 00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:10,079 want to know why aren't you coming out? How did you know about this? Well, 449 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:15,920 again, it could be through just general observation or it could be, you know, 450 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:19,839 somebody called a complaint. So 451 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:24,320 it selective enforcement, you know, might it might appear that way 452 00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:29,200 sometimes, but again, I just want to reassure that that our objective at all 453 00:35:26,800 --> 00:35:32,839 times when it comes to zoning is to be, you know, fair and 454 00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:39,720 thank you. Any other citizens? 455 00:35:40,079 --> 00:35:45,520 » Okay, seeing none, we will move on to our city manager report. Mr. Rette. 456 00:35:43,839 --> 00:35:49,040 » Okay. Thank you, Mr. president. Just a couple items tonight, but all importance 457 00:35:47,440 --> 00:35:53,920 nonetheless. Starting off with uh our sweetscape 458 00:35:51,839 --> 00:35:58,000 phase 2, the storm water improvement project, which which let's face it, you 459 00:35:56,240 --> 00:36:02,960 know, we all know this as the depot project that was supposed to start, you 460 00:35:59,920 --> 00:36:06,560 know, a month and a half ago. Um I'm going to reiterate, you know, the reason 461 00:36:04,640 --> 00:36:09,920 for the delay in this project, which is now we're seeing movement, and I've got 462 00:36:08,000 --> 00:36:14,560 great, you know, great deal on this tonight, but this was all about supply 463 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:19,359 issues. It was it was about the the inability of our contractor to get these 464 00:36:16,960 --> 00:36:22,800 concreted structures that are necessary for the storm water portion of this 465 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:27,200 project, which is what they're tackling first. So, we now know that those those 466 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:32,720 structures are on site and the contractor is is is they're they're 467 00:36:30,000 --> 00:36:37,040 ready to get started. I've I've updated our website with the latest schedule 468 00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:40,800 and, you know, the the the actual construction is ready to start. I know 469 00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:47,920 the contractors also delivered notices to local businesses in the area uh to 470 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:54,160 give them a heads up about this project. Everybody's concern and and rightfully 471 00:36:51,119 --> 00:36:58,480 so has to do with the timing on this project. 472 00:36:56,400 --> 00:37:02,720 what we know and what the contractor is looking at at this point. And I think 473 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:09,119 last month I talked about acceleration which is uh where they're looking at an 474 00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:13,200 accelerated work schedule. They're not going to be working four day 475 00:37:10,720 --> 00:37:19,760 weeks. We're looking at kind of 5 10 week 10 hour day weeks and again 476 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:23,760 Saturdays if necessary to get this project done. The contractor in their 477 00:37:21,839 --> 00:37:28,880 note to the local business has stated that 478 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:34,240 they need 26 days of course weather you know of course weathering but 26 days to 479 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:40,079 get this project done. They are still looking at the end of August to get this 480 00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:44,000 project completed and and that's the latest. That's where we're at on that 481 00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:48,240 with respect to the conclusion of the project, anticipated conclusion. It's 482 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:53,040 not much different from the very beginning, but they had built the time 483 00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:57,440 in that initial [music] schedule knowing that their supply was still 484 00:37:55,040 --> 00:38:02,160 questionable. So, how did we lose all this time? And we're still, you know, 485 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:06,720 pretty close to, you know, the I think the original conclusion or ending date 486 00:38:05,119 --> 00:38:11,440 was scheduled for the 21st of August. It's now 31st. Again, it's because they 487 00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:15,440 were building time. Not certain as to when they were going to get their 488 00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:19,920 materials. Those are on site. So, the project is getting started. Um, and just 489 00:38:18,079 --> 00:38:26,240 to remind everybody about this, it's this is an upgrade to the storm water 490 00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:30,720 infrastructure along EOS Creek and Uh the default parking lot is is the main 491 00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:36,000 focus of this of this beautifification project. Uh as they're going to 492 00:38:33,119 --> 00:38:40,560 completely restruct the parking lot with uh the creation or the construction of a 493 00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:46,000 bio swale that will run east to west along along the road separating the 494 00:38:43,280 --> 00:38:50,320 parking area from the road trees. I think it's going to be a really 495 00:38:47,680 --> 00:38:55,200 a really nice inclusion. Uh new curving landscaping you know again all of this 496 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:58,240 and of course there's there's a new is being funded with this phase that's 497 00:38:56,640 --> 00:39:03,760 going to be actually put next door over here at the new pocket park. But all of 498 00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:08,320 this is funded uh both with the Appalachin Community Grant funding that 499 00:39:05,839 --> 00:39:13,440 we were awarded as well as this as well as CDBG funding through the county uh 500 00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:17,839 for the storm water portion. So it's a big deal. It's a big project. Uh they're 501 00:39:15,839 --> 00:39:23,280 jumping on it. Again, you know, they see it as as a 26 day project. Should be 502 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:29,040 done at the end of the month. Again, I never definitives that should 503 00:39:25,599 --> 00:39:33,440 be um if by chance there's anything uh that would all that that would deviate 504 00:39:30,960 --> 00:39:36,000 from the schedule that we will of course notify the public and make sure 505 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:39,920 everybody's aware of that. But our target right now is make sure it's it's 506 00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:46,560 done well before the great jamboree so it does not impact uh their operations 507 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:52,560 for for that major event. Uh also the the launch street water line replacement 508 00:39:48,480 --> 00:39:56,960 this also funded by by the OPWC funding. Uh this has also been a long project. 509 00:39:55,280 --> 00:40:00,880 It's been a long schedule. I know Mr. Santiago can tell you a lot of you know 510 00:39:59,440 --> 00:40:05,760 a lot of things that went down on this project and I see he's here with us 511 00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:10,240 tonight. Um there's uh there they're actually very close to the final phase 512 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:15,200 of this project though milling today and and Mr. Santiago can probably give us 513 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:18,400 more more update on that when the actual paving should start and that should be 514 00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:21,440 finished by the end of this week. Is that correct? 515 00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:25,920 » Correct. They are currently on schedule. Um they were down a truck. I grabbed one 516 00:40:24,240 --> 00:40:31,200 of ours and stepped in to help keep the milling moving. Um so we were running 517 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:34,800 some milling this morning. Um they they paddled through the storm this morning. 518 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:40,480 They finished all the road. They started they began working on base repair um 519 00:40:37,359 --> 00:40:44,720 through um which will be whole width of the road for a certain length of time 520 00:40:42,079 --> 00:40:48,079 where the base there's non-existent. It's all claying up through the road. 521 00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:51,280 So, they'll be going through doing a bunch of base work there in two 522 00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:55,599 different sections on each section of Long Street. Um, that's taking place. 523 00:40:54,160 --> 00:41:00,000 They started working on some of it today. All day tomorrow they'll be 524 00:40:57,599 --> 00:41:05,760 working on that as well with uh everything. Fingers crossed. Uh, we know 525 00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:08,960 how paving goes around here. So, fingers crossed Wednesday they're laying 526 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:14,560 asphalt. So, that's that's their game plan for um that is to lay asphalt 527 00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:20,480 Wednesday and be ready to go. So, >> right. I I know the contractor also went 528 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:25,280 around and distributed notices to public flyers and let them know there is there 529 00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:28,880 is of course disruption in that area. Uh there are no parking and sections of 530 00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,640 Long Street. >> Yeah, we did address a lot of the um 531 00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:36,640 complaints and issues that did come up by citizens um with their lawns and 532 00:41:35,359 --> 00:41:42,240 their properties and such. Everything was gone through walked through uh quite 533 00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:45,839 honestly the next morning after that um after the last meeting last Yeah. last 534 00:41:44,480 --> 00:41:50,160 council meeting we had and everything was addressed and attended to and 535 00:41:47,599 --> 00:41:54,400 everything like that um to then continue moving forward with this. So um all the 536 00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:58,079 citizens are aware, they're notified, they're all excited because they're 537 00:41:55,599 --> 00:42:01,680 getting a new road. So um everybody's happy to see the end of this project 538 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:07,200 come through. So and again aside from the new road and 539 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:11,839 the fact that it's almost done, the uh the upgrade of that water infrastructure 540 00:42:09,839 --> 00:42:16,560 is is critical for our system, our water distriution system. So it's that also 541 00:42:14,240 --> 00:42:20,800 was a very very important project for us this year. So good. Thank you for your 542 00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:27,359 for your um [clears throat] also what we on 543 00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:32,800 tonight's agenda is uh the the a bid for the 2026 street pavement repair program. 544 00:42:30,240 --> 00:42:37,040 Uh back on the 23rd of July, we had a bid opening for our project for our 545 00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:41,200 street paving project where the opinion of probable construction cost for this 546 00:42:38,720 --> 00:42:48,240 bid is $700,000. Uh on the 23rd we received four bids. 547 00:42:44,079 --> 00:42:52,440 The low bid uh coming from Ronak Paving at 632,794. 548 00:42:52,880 --> 00:43:00,000 Uh that again was a low bid and uh having reviewed having had their their 549 00:42:58,319 --> 00:43:04,480 bid package reviewed by our engineer they concluded that you know they met 550 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:10,720 all the bid specifications and have the experience uh to do the job and and that 551 00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:16,000 that is our recommendation tonight. Uh Just again on the agenda that at that 552 00:43:12,319 --> 00:43:19,599 point in the meeting uh you know it's my my recommendation of council to 553 00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:24,160 authorize uh the manager myself to enter to that 554 00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:29,839 agreement to accept our bid so we can enter into that agreement. Uh just for 555 00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:36,400 the sake of of record again their low bid was 6327 the high bid was 7627. 556 00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:40,960 So quite a difference there between low and high bid. Excellent news for [music] 557 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:44,960 the city because a low bid, we might be able to get some additional work in with 558 00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:50,640 the difference uh under the opinion of probable construction cost. So, uh the 559 00:43:48,079 --> 00:43:56,000 work here on this with with an approved bid is uh to get that moving as soon as 560 00:43:53,040 --> 00:44:03,440 possible so we can get we can get moving on on our rotating project. 561 00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:08,480 Also, I mentioned back in June that our application through the state capital 562 00:44:05,440 --> 00:44:11,680 budget uh process was approved. Well, we did get final. We finally got it took a 563 00:44:10,319 --> 00:44:17,359 while. We finally got official notification from the state uh through 564 00:44:14,160 --> 00:44:21,520 SB450, the capital budget community project, Geneva Recreation Center, which 565 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:27,599 is what we submitted, was in fact approved approved in the amount of 566 00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:34,000 $196,250, which is half of what the opinion 567 00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:40,000 probably construction cost was of 3925 392,500. 568 00:44:36,640 --> 00:44:44,640 This is huge for us because funding to to try to upgrade the rec 569 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:48,480 center for for a long time and and there's so many and again you know we 570 00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:52,079 have our rec director here and I know Mikey can tell you all about I don't 571 00:44:50,079 --> 00:44:57,119 think she's thrilled in fact I'll turn I'll turn it over to her in a second but 572 00:44:54,800 --> 00:45:02,720 but what this money that will enable us to do is to to replace the floor and if 573 00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:08,880 you've been in there you've seen how bad how poor that gymnasium floor is paint 574 00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:13,359 the walls do tuck point. Um I think I if I didn't mention replace or repair 575 00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:19,119 replace the roof and these are major improvements. Um you know handicap 576 00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:23,119 accessibil accessible uh door openers on the on the outside of the building. 577 00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:27,680 We've had it you know we've had uh ours has been inoperable and and one of the 578 00:45:25,839 --> 00:45:32,720 main reasons why that's remained inoperable for so long is because of the 579 00:45:29,680 --> 00:45:37,119 cost. You know it was over $7,000 to to replace that. that you see that help 580 00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:42,160 open the door. So, this is enabling us to fund that all those pro all those 581 00:45:39,599 --> 00:45:47,520 improvements and I know Mikey's been such a strong advocate over the years 582 00:45:44,160 --> 00:45:51,599 and um and I know this is going to go a long way to help our w program and Mikey 583 00:45:50,079 --> 00:45:54,240 if there's anything you wanted to add to that. 584 00:45:52,160 --> 00:46:01,359 » No, just that uh the last time it was painted inside was in 2003. 585 00:45:58,000 --> 00:46:06,720 Um so it was definitely well overdue. um the gym floor there. I don't I can't 586 00:46:04,800 --> 00:46:14,880 remember the last time that we redid that floor even by just taking the um 587 00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:19,440 surface off and painting it. Um so it'll be nice to get that all done. It'll be 588 00:46:16,240 --> 00:46:23,200 nice to have no more dead spots. Um nothing like playing basketball. The 589 00:46:20,800 --> 00:46:28,160 ball just kind of goes dead because you know wrong spot. Um so it's going to be 590 00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:31,040 a huge improvement um with the handicap bathrooms and everything else that's 591 00:46:29,359 --> 00:46:35,680 going on. That'll be nice. Be more accessible for everybody to be able to 592 00:46:33,119 --> 00:46:39,680 come in. Um, and of course the roof, you want to make sure that roof is solid. 593 00:46:37,760 --> 00:46:44,319 That building's over 100 almost 100 years old. So, it's it's seen better 594 00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:49,599 days and it definitely needs a new roof. So, that'll be good for us. 595 00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:54,240 » Yeah. So, we're very excited about that. And I would just add there is no local 596 00:46:52,079 --> 00:46:58,880 maps requirement for this program, which is great news. What I mean what that 597 00:46:56,319 --> 00:47:04,079 means is even though we we have an opinion of probable construction cost 598 00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:08,319 prepared by by our engineers. So the better the bids the less money that we 599 00:47:06,720 --> 00:47:14,000 have to contribute to get this work done. So you know if we if we have bids 600 00:47:11,119 --> 00:47:17,920 that come in well under our our probable construction cost that's just that much 601 00:47:16,319 --> 00:47:23,359 less money that we have to contribute to the project. So but nonetheless it's 602 00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:27,839 it's definitely necessary and needed and has been for a long time. We're very 603 00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:33,839 fortunate to receive these funds. Um, finally, I I mentioned uh earlier in our 604 00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:40,240 work session tonight uh that it was my intent to include a quote um that 605 00:47:38,160 --> 00:47:44,640 speaking of of improvements, you know, the the roof at the old fieldhouse at 606 00:47:42,560 --> 00:47:49,839 Memorial Field has long been needed to be replaced. Uh we've patched it over 607 00:47:47,359 --> 00:47:54,400 the years, but it now is at a point where it drastic drastically needs to be 608 00:47:52,079 --> 00:47:58,319 replaced. Uh and again, is an effort that I know Mikey spent a lot of time 609 00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:03,680 and did a lot of the the leg work on this as well. Um 610 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:08,160 we not that long, a few years back, we put federal money into this building to 611 00:48:05,760 --> 00:48:12,400 upgrade the restrooms which are very very nice. Uh the problem is there was 612 00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:16,960 no additional funding put into the rest of the building. So if we don't replace 613 00:48:14,720 --> 00:48:21,520 this roof, uh there was a chance that we could lose this building. So that's 614 00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:26,559 where we're at. Uh we did an extensive review. We received quotes. We did an 615 00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:31,920 extensive review and I I did present to council tonight. Incidentally, this was 616 00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:38,720 a a budgeted project. We had this budget at I believe Tracy 125,000 617 00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:45,040 » and we had bids come in the the two lower bids came in very very close 618 00:48:40,720 --> 00:48:52,000 together. Um right around $72,800, you know, you know, over $40,000 under 619 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:55,200 what we had what we had budgeted. Um, so through our review, we kind of broke 620 00:48:53,520 --> 00:48:58,880 down some of the specifics between each of these bids. I mean, really, there was 621 00:48:56,720 --> 00:49:04,240 a $15 difference between these bids, but one one included 5-in gutters versus the 622 00:49:02,319 --> 00:49:09,680 other bid that was 7in commercial gutters. And additionally, there was a 623 00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:15,920 15-year uh manufacturer's warranty versus a 20-year manufacturer warranty. 624 00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:21,839 So, both of those those better uh items were included in the lower lower bid. 625 00:49:19,040 --> 00:49:29,119 So, it it was will be my recommendation to council to accept the bid of 626 00:49:26,559 --> 00:49:34,160 building technicians corporation to remove and replace the roof at the old 627 00:49:31,839 --> 00:49:40,160 fieldhouse at the Oregon field and the council is is wanting to add that to the 628 00:49:37,119 --> 00:49:46,280 agenda. Uh again that is the the recommendation that that we was the best 629 00:49:42,559 --> 00:49:46,280 the lowest best 630 00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:54,880 » I said >> I said bid uh thank you yeah that that 631 00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:59,520 was a mistake I I want to emphasize quote 632 00:49:56,640 --> 00:50:02,520 quote yeah we we we saw quotes for this not 633 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:09,200 and and yeah and a lot of research we made sure that what we had in front of 634 00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:13,640 us was we were able to compare apples with apples. So that's where a lot of 635 00:50:18,319 --> 00:50:28,079 um on your first thing the uh phase two I know right now I've been approached by 636 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:33,440 a couple uh businesses [music] >> because of the parking issue. 637 00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:38,800 » Yes. Um, is there a way to limit the parking 638 00:50:35,119 --> 00:50:43,440 behind the businesses on South Broadway uh and have the construction people be 639 00:50:41,359 --> 00:50:49,280 somewhere else right now? Because they're taking up like behind honeybees 640 00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:58,000 and behind the BFW, behind the uh businesses on the west side. Um they're 641 00:50:53,520 --> 00:51:05,040 just there's very little parking for uh patrons of of any of the businesses in 642 00:51:02,160 --> 00:51:10,400 there that park behind right now because of the number of construction people 643 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:14,960 that are parking there. Um I don't know if anything would be done, but they've 644 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:20,720 got like big dumpsters and all kinds of stuff taking up three, four parking 645 00:51:17,280 --> 00:51:24,640 spaces. Mr. President, >> Mr. Baker, I I can look into that. I 646 00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:28,640 know one of the things that we made sure we worked very closely with the 647 00:51:26,160 --> 00:51:32,000 contractor was to ensure that they left open 648 00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:34,400 portions of the of the project that's you know that's not being that they're 649 00:51:33,359 --> 00:51:39,040 not working on right now. They're leaving that open so people can park 650 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:43,760 there. That that was a big thing that we've emphasized heavily. Um so there is 651 00:51:42,319 --> 00:51:47,520 parking where initially there wasn't going to be. Um I could talk to the 652 00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:52,240 project manager and share your concern about where the employees are. 653 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:57,920 Like I said, I've had a couple businesses contact me saying, "I can't 654 00:51:54,640 --> 00:52:02,079 even park behind my own business." >> And that's part of the Appalachian. 655 00:51:59,920 --> 00:52:07,520 » No, it's what's going on. It's actually what's going on right now with the uh um 656 00:52:05,119 --> 00:52:13,440 phase one where where they're doing painting on the building. 657 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:19,680 » So, yeah, I'm sorry. Yeah, that's part of I apologize. That was ongoing right 658 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:23,920 now. And so when this happens, all I can >> part one that is 659 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:30,400 Yeah. I can just imagine that it's going to exasperate the problem if if we don't 660 00:52:28,720 --> 00:52:33,599 take care of it now. >> And just to be clear, Mr. Baker is 661 00:52:32,000 --> 00:52:38,559 referring to the facade program, which is also part of the Appalachin Community 662 00:52:35,760 --> 00:52:45,119 grant that we received and all the funding included, which all has to be 663 00:52:40,960 --> 00:52:52,400 spent before the end of October of 2026, uh was 23 2.6 million after investment 664 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:55,520 downtown. So that's the side, but I likewise we'll we'll talk to the 665 00:52:53,920 --> 00:53:00,640 project. Appreciate that. Thank you. Any other 666 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:05,200 questions? All right. So before uh proceeding to um items for consideration 667 00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:11,839 of council, I would like to ask for a motion to um add resolution number 3683, 668 00:53:09,839 --> 00:53:16,800 which is the uh the fieldhouse resolution to tonight's agenda. Can I 669 00:53:14,640 --> 00:53:19,200 please have a and the roll call on that. 670 00:53:18,240 --> 00:53:22,000 » Travis, >> yes. 671 00:53:20,400 --> 00:53:23,359 » Yes. >> Yes. 672 00:53:22,480 --> 00:53:24,400 » Rose, >> yes. 673 00:53:23,839 --> 00:53:26,640 » Baker, >> yes. 674 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:32,040 » Yes. >> We'll have that at the end. All right. 675 00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:39,440 First up is ordinance number 3418, an ordinance determining council intent to 676 00:53:37,760 --> 00:53:44,240 proceed with improving the streets in the city of Geneva by supplying street 677 00:53:41,839 --> 00:53:48,079 lighting and to levy assessments for such lighting and declaring an 678 00:53:46,000 --> 00:53:51,720 emergency. Uh, can I have a motion to wave the role three? 679 00:53:53,599 --> 00:54:01,480 » Speaking of street lights, yes. How we doing our LED lights? 680 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:11,520 Yes. Um the Mr. Rose question regarding the LED lights has to do with the 681 00:54:08,400 --> 00:54:16,880 gardener with the ongoing neverending partner project. 682 00:54:12,720 --> 00:54:21,680 » Y um we have been and we we have been in regular communication with uh with First 683 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:27,760 Energy to get them again. It's just it's it's a slow process. I think we've 684 00:54:24,079 --> 00:54:33,280 completed five of 11 phases. Uh we keep getting told the same thing that it's in 685 00:54:29,839 --> 00:54:36,400 planning. It's in planning. So, it's 686 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:39,520 How long ago was the last phase completed? 687 00:54:38,319 --> 00:54:42,520 I would say at the beginning of the year. 688 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:49,920 » Uh, well, being out and about, I will say there has been a white bucket truck, 689 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:54,559 the the light truck um from the Illuminate Company that's been buzzing 690 00:54:51,599 --> 00:54:58,800 around here lately. Um, it was referred to at one point on Facebook as the 691 00:54:56,319 --> 00:55:02,720 unmarked ambulance driving around creepily, but they have been out. I've 692 00:55:01,200 --> 00:55:07,119 been noticing them more and more here lately catching different street lights. 693 00:55:04,640 --> 00:55:11,440 I don't think they're any in a row. I It seems sporadic, but they are. I have 694 00:55:09,200 --> 00:55:16,880 seen Illuminate Company adjusting lights. We're working on lights. So, 695 00:55:13,599 --> 00:55:21,599 » I don't want this anymore. >> But does any anybody know why they're 696 00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:26,800 digging around? >> Oh. Yes. Yes. 697 00:55:24,559 --> 00:55:30,640 » So Dale brought it up um the last council meeting. Um they've been doing a 698 00:55:28,720 --> 00:55:34,960 pole inspection. So what they're doing is they go around, they augur in, they 699 00:55:32,559 --> 00:55:39,599 check for rotting the, you know, the quality and the structure of the pole 700 00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:42,400 and they have to do an entire evaluation of the city It's