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All right, good evening. It is 6:31. I'm
so used to saying 601, right?

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» 6:31 and we are at the September 8th
meeting of the town of Georgetown Select

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Board. Thank you all for joining us. And
uh this time I'm calling uh the meeting

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to order. And we have a couple of um
community members to

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um recognize in our moments of our
moment of silence. And uh those include

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Mary Swain, uh Jenny Jameson,
and uh George Shardier.

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» Dave.
>> Dave. Dave. I don't know why I keep

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saying George, but I know it's Dave. My
apologies to my apologies to his family.

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Um it's a lot of loss in a in a couple
weeks. Um and certainly to the working

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link. So uh for the loss of both of them
and and Mr. Shardier's family lives here

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and of course he owns a business.
>> Oh gosh. Dave Shardier died

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and
>> we're just going to mute folks. Um uh so

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if you could join me in um acknowledging
the loss to our community of all three

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of these folks, we would appreciate
that.

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Okay. And um in terms of celebrations,
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it's hard to come back to that mode of
thinking when you're thinking about the

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people we just lost. Um but is there
anything that you can think of that

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we're celebrating? Any new births? Um I
feel like there is something. What

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exactly? exciting new school year
started.

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» Okay. School kicked off. That's right.
Uh that is true. And uh we have an

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interim um principal, Mr. door um who
taught here many many years ago and is

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back um to fill in for a celebration we
just um offered to our um uh current

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principal Caitlyn Miller and her husband
who's a full-time firefighter I think in

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Woolitch and and a firefighter here now
in Georgetown as well. Um all right. So

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we um
if there's no other celebrations

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um I would like to recognize of course
um the volunteers. One of the

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celebrations I wanted to make was for
the volunteers. I saw some of them

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yesterday um at the transfer station who
show up every um every weekend um and uh

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devote their time particularly at the
mall, but also to helping people empty

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their cans and um you know take uh their
um recycling and their buckets out of

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the cars. We see that a lot and we just
want to acknowledge those those

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volunteers as well. And now we're moving
on to public comment. So,

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let's start in the room. Is there any
public comment for any items that are on

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the agenda? Yes, Lisa.
>> The agenda.

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» Um, typically that's how under Robert's
rules of order, that's typically how

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public comment is supposed to run, but
um that's fine since we didn't announce

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that we'd be doing that. We'll take any
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» I just wanted to uh express a concern.
There have been three times probably

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three times in the last month when I've
been at the transfer station where

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people were parked
in not in the appropriate spots and

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private citizens have taken it upon
themselves to speak to these people.

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Sometimes not always in a happy way.
>> Um and also at times when there were

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kids running around and people were
parked in ways that made others have to

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drive in a dangerous pattern or
potentially dangerous pattern. I know

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that you're in the process of doing
performance reviews and I'm assuming job

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description kinds of things and there's
a long been discussion about whose role

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is it to tell people to park correctly.
I don't think it's the role of the

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private citizens. I do think it's the
role of the employees. I know there's a

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concern about enforcement, but I think
there are ways to enforce and I'm

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concerned and and now we're entering the
slow season, but I'd like to see that be

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part of the job description, the
performance ratings. Um, it's just not

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people need to be told. Sure. And and I
don't I don't think they'd have to be

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aggressive. Just there are people that
don't know where to park or don't notice

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the line. So simply going up to them and
saying, you know, burn properly, please.

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I I think it's it's way too lax in how
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» Okay. Thank you, Lisa.
>> Uh any other public comment for folks

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who are in the um town office with with
us? We probably have seven or so in the

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building with us tonight. And I'm not
seeing any hands. What about out um Oh,

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okay. So, we've got at least one or two.
And uh looks like Jen Debransky's on

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camera. Go ahead, Jen.
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working waterfront proclamation. I just
wanted to speak briefly and support

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um and share that um I grew up in a
working waterfront community and I've

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had the privilege as a young person to
work in one and I um so I know that the

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working waterfront is much more than
just an industry. It's part of a

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community's identity, its culture and
economy and certainly way of life. Um,

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the proclamation, as I read it, does not
take anything away from anyone. It does

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not create new regulations or
restrictions. It simply says clearly and

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proudly that the Georgetown recognizes
the value of its working waterfront and

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the people and businesses who depend
upon it. These places are increasingly

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difficult to preserve once they are
lost. There's no downside

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to saying that this matters to us and
that we want to remain part of we want

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it to remain part of Georgetown's
future. Um I believe it's both

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reasonable and an important statement
for our town to make and I strongly

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support it. Thank you.
>> Thank you, Jen.

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Anybody else
on Zoom? Okay.

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All right. So, we have a few items to be
added to the agenda. Um and so uh Tyler

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want to take us through those three
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» So the two items that we'd add are a
discussion and possible approval for a

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liquor license of on premise beer, wine
and spirits for Robin Hood Ventures

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Limited, which is Robin Hood Free
Meeting House. Um this came in on

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Thursday. Had it been a license that had
been held by the entity less than 5

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years, it wouldn't be on this agenda
because there'd have to be public notice

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in the papers. but we have in recent
years um for companies that we don't

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have to pass that cost on to have not
been doing so. So that'll be something

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to add tonight. As well as a thank you
from the city of Bath to the fire

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department and the town for loaning them
an ambulance which was an awesome

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example of mutual aid at work. And I
would note to everyone in the room in

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the audience, Zoom has had an update. So
people are appearing different sizes. So

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I'm going to pin the select board and
hopefully that helps. But I just want us

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to be able to be seen on the recording
later. So, I'll figure out what happened

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on that update later.
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jump in, I see Carlos is on. We could
jump right into the liquor license.

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Given the fact that that was a newly
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internal public hearing for those here.
Um, and then afterwards take action on

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possible approval.
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Um, so we don't have to have a public
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it. Is that correct? Correct. Because if
it's it's a renewal,

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» right? So, are there um uh any questions
that uh either of you has for Carlos um

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or Ally if they're both here? We know
Carlos is there.

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» What venue is it for?
>> Um the meeting house it looks like.

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» Thank you.
>> They're actually separate legal

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entities. So, we will be getting Grey
Havens at the next select board meeting,

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but that one's date wasn't as
time-sensitive as this one.

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» Okay. And I don't have any
>> Yeah, I don't see anything wrong.

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» It's been a continued renewal. So,
>> um Carlos, is there anything that you

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wanted to um apprise us of before we
take a vote?

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» Other than apologizing for getting it in
late. Sorry about that. You would think

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after 10 years I would figure it out.
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» well,
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» We were just talking about how summer
has raced by us and everybody's still

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had
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» So, no problem. Thank you. All right.
With that, I'll entertain a motion

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regarding the um renewal of the um free
Robin Hood liquor license.

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» I move that we renew the uh Robin Hood
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meeting house.
>> I'll second. Okay, you can second it.

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All those in favor?
>> And that is unanimous. Thank you.

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» Okay. Thank you, Carlos. You're all set.
>> Thank you.

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» And we do have a scheduled appointment
at 6:45, but I do see that Clara is here

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early and that's always a good thing in
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» So, uh, Clara, do you want to come on up
and or do you It's up to you. You can

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come up or you can stay there. However
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know. I didn't wasn't sure if you wanted
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have already looked at everything and
you have questions. Um, so whatever is

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most helpful for you. I I've looked at
it and I again want to thank you for

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putting to together the work and the
yeah the proposal. That's great. Um to

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see um help especially on grant writing
um and keeping track of because MCF as

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you know gives a a fair amount of um
funding each year. So

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» yes. Yeah. So I I don't know if it would
be helpful to just kind of recap my

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experience so far.
>> Yeah. Just hit the highlights. Um you do

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have your memo and thank you for that.
>> Yeah. Um so the vendor came on the 4th

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of August and spent the day at um the
school. Um most of his findings. So he

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kind of had two pockets
of in the first pocket he wanted to look

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at what was already in place.
How was it running? What could he do to

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get it running better? And then in the
second pocket it was what what uh

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recommendations did he want to make to
for improvement

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and um shar said a lot of things when I
met with him and chatted with him said a

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lot of things that I didn't understand
that I had to then go and research a lot

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of but um a lot of what I understand is
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there were a lot of great things
purchased but they weren't necessarily

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the best things for our intention.
in the space

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um or they were not installed
to fidelity to what we would like. Um

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and so he did work to get the system
working to full capacity as he could.

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Uh, and then he's shared with us what he
would recommend for improvements,

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including how to repurpose what we
currently have in a way that would

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benefit the music teacher and the
students at the school.

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» Okay.
>> So, um, yeah, he and he's he's happy to

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answer any questions that we have, which
I said I would

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» take back to him.
>> All right. Go ahead, Dan. At a high

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level, can you just give us a little bit
of a difference between the option one

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and option two? Yes.
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» So, I asked him with the number being
high, I asked for options. His response

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was really that the only wiggle room is
with what we do with the current setup.

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So, in option one, I believe that's
where we get to we would get to take

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what we have and repurpose it into the
music room and benefit that space. Um,

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with option two, we forfeit that. And so
then we're just looking at what what do

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we need in the actual gymnasium space?
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which in my opinion, it's kind of a
small difference. um and it would help

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the kiddos. So, one thing he shared with
me, um he kind of acted it out actually.

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uh you know when you're on the stage
if you're a kiddo and you're listening

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to a speaker or you're um trying to sing
along with the music right now it's it's

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very difficult for a typical hearing
student to follow what's being done

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because all of the sound is being
projected straight back. So repurposing

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those community that's the brand the
community speakers that are there

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currently repurposing them inside of the
music room would help with that.

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» Claire, can I ask you something? So, you
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town meeting or
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when we are close to the front,
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on the stage, I would assume we benefit
from the same thing that he was

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describing to you about anyone the kids
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» Yeah. My understand Yes. to answer that.
Yes. And then my understanding is that

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the town would really have a lot of
benefits from this because not only we

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would we get better speaking abilities
like more microphones um

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» that's that's dire.
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um speakers that are meant for our space
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need for our space. And then in addition
to that, um, he shared some safety

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concerns about the current speaker
systems that are in there and how, and

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he probably did this to help me
understand, but he basically said that

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the that what we have right now would
work really well if we were all at a

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restaurant and we just wanted background
noise. Um, but for articulation and

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really understanding speakers, it's just
not the proper setup.

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And then of course the safety concerns
with Yeah. And just to put it on the

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record, the safety concerns are really
like once you have everything running

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the way it's supposed to, there is a
level of vibration that happens with all

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of the sound. And the current hanging
speaker systems are not actually secure

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in the ceiling. They're hanging, which
he said is very typical that they find

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that a lot with public space
installations, but they're basically

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just hanging by the AV wires and there's
no like secure wire holding them in

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place.
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they've wiggled themselves to the point,
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use the wire.
>> That seems to be a common installation.

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» Yes.
>> So, his interpretation because like we

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weren't there. I don't think any of us
were there when the decisions were made

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for the previous system. His
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» um so he recognized the company and he
said that this is a company who has uh

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expertise
in like like the the video setup that we

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got that be the beautiful projector
but their expertise is not really AV

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systems like this. Um, and so he said
the bid was probably lower, but their

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expertise in understanding how to do
spaces like this and the safety pieces

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might not have been it might have been a
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» Okay.
>> Do you know when that was?

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» I don't. Um,
>> we found an invoice and I don't know the

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date of it offand, but I might be able
to find that for you.

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» It was before my time, before Caitlyn's
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» yeah.
>> So maybe Chris Barab or

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» there's a there's a poster in the hall
that thanks everybody who's helped fund

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the addition and I think it's dated
1988. Put that in.

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» No, I think that it was done more
recently. I think the new system was

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done more recently than that. Um he said
that the community speakers are great

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speakers. Like it's quality
it's quality um hardware, right? It's

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just not
the in for the intention that we want

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and it wasn't really installed properly.
>> So, but if we go with option one, yeah,

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» then we can repurpose what we have.
That's the hardware is still good. It's

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just not appropriate for the space
really.

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» Right. Um, so we could repurpose that
rather than just chuck that and then do

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the necessary enhancements,
implement a secure system um with

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assuming we get the grant. And thank you
for explaining obviously that the

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matching funds wouldn't be uh required
unless and until unless we got the

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grant,
>> right? So, um, with the grant, we would

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have to have a letter from the school
and a letter from the town in support

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and kind of agreeing to like this is
what we plan to do.

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» Um, and then if we were to be granted
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» things would proceed. If we were to get
a partial or not get the grant, then we

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would have to decide as a town what we
would want to do.

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» Okay. And I'm saying the timeline for
the grant is through February 17th.

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» Yeah. So it opens um in November,
beginning of November.

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» So my goal would be probably to try to
get as much done and into them as soon

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as possible.
>> Great.

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» Yeah.
>> But they uh they're looking strictly for

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matching funds or are they also looking
for certain matching services, federal

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volunteer time, stuff like that?
My understanding is that we don't have

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to have any funding, but to like if we
let's say let's say this was only a

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$10,000 quote and we just wanted all
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still fine. Um what I understand is that
the town cooperating and being willing

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to put in and the school town or the
school doing the same increases our

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chance of getting granted the funds and
it the school board uh meeting is the

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16th I think. So
>> they may have I don't know if they've

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discussed this. I don't recall it in the
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» but maybe you do. But obviously
Caitlyn's aware of it so Elaine is

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likely aware of it. Yeah, you guys were
my first stop, so I haven't, you know, I

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figured if you guys vetoed it, then the
school would veto it. So, um,

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» no, but
>> I don't veto it at all.

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» No.
>> The other thing that I really, uh, loved

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hearing was, you know, he said he said
they would be willing to show someone

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like Mr. by everything that he would
need to know about the system,

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» but that the way that they install um
their desire is to have it be like once

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it's in place, we never have to touch
it, right?

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» And
>> famous last words, though, Claire,

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» I know,
>> hanging by a cord.

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» And that um if something were to not be
working the way that we would want it,

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that he would be willing to just come
down and and take a look. So,

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» I'd want Tyler trained on that too as
well because we just we each year we use

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it more and more on the municipal side
of things, the gym.

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» And speaking candidly, I love the idea
of having more microphones and acoustics

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that work and
>> we do a lot of events in there and it's

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held together by bobby pins at times
>> and it's frustrating for the people that

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are there.
>> Yeah. I mean, a lot I can't hear

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sometimes when you all had your
candidates night. I couldn't hear

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sometimes what you and Jeff were saying,
>> right?

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» And you know, so and that that's hard. I
just remember that and I'm sure others.

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» I would note that um last year during
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budgeted $20,000
for contingency. There's another fund

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for unexpected expenses up to 25,000
that could come out of fund balance. I

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share those numbers because we're early
in the fiscal year about a sixth of the

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way through the year. Um, but there is
money in contingency now. It would be if

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we went with option one just shy of 25%
of the contingency. But again, there are

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a lot of conditional ifs if the grant
were not to come an ongoing

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conversation.
>> So, I just want us to know that. But I

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think there's money there now that we
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by March, April, May things get tighter.
>> Yeah.

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» And we also it it's clear that prices
can change.

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» They're not guaranteeing
um Yeah, they don't.

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» On the invoice it has a little asterk.
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date for that the quote two months out
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but yeah I think that with it being that
the grant might not be even approved

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until June that it was hard for him to
say for sure

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» okay
>> prices would all be the same but um when

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he looked at the previous invoice
>> where we paid for hardware before he

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said that comparatively the hardware
seems to be pretty similar are right now

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with what we've what we paid in the
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» um I wouldn't expect huge differences.
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he
did offer he has lots of schools that

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he's worked with and um St. George
Elementary just got this pretty much

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this exact setup that he's recommending
for us. They just got installed this

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year. I called them and they have not
they had not dabbled in the new system

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yet because it was a new school year.
But um it is something where I plan to

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just call and get their input and see
how they're liking it at some point here

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and if you guys were interested he said
he knew they'd be open to showing you

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know touring if anybody
>> wanted to see it. So, is tonight more

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you need a tasset thumbs up that we're
in or do you need a because then we

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could work to come up with a letter
later on to meet those deadlines or

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» That's what I would love because it
means that I can start putting in the um

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work on the actual application and then
we can

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» get down to the nitty-gritty of like
logistic letter support of support

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whatever. And then also if you guys are
giving me a thumbs up, um, I'll probably

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reach out to the school board and just
say this is on the table.

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» Great.
>> All right. I give it a thumbs up.

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» We need a motion. I'd be ready to make a
motion that we

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» Go ahead. Make your motion. That sense.
I move that we support that we will we

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support you in your um in the process of
applying for the grant and that we will

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support the grant financially option one
or option two. Um what do you do we need

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to make that decision?
>> Um we probably do we probably should

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make that decision. So are we thinking
option one or option two?

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» I think for the thousand dollar one
>> I think so too. I mean, it's more it's

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more bang for our buck, for sure. And it
also repurposes hardware that shouldn't

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just be left to die. Yeah.
>> Well, so I I support Clarins in in

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pursuing this grant uh and with the
support of the select board and in uh

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going after option one.
>> Okay. And do we want just given that

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there's that asterisk to half a dollar
amount and if it goes beyond that we

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come back like say up to $5,000.
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I think the match would be about 3,800.
Is that right? Okay. So up to $5,000,

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» you know. Um
>> No, it's 48.

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» Yeah. So we're going to pursue option
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» which is really tight. 5,000 is really
tight with

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» 48.
That's right. Okay.

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» Maybe we 5,200.
>> Yeah. Give it a little more

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» cushion. Hard to know what that was
going to be like in June.

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» Yeah, those tariffs availability
>> and come back and we can government

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action. Sure.
>> So, was the 5200 a part of that motion?

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» I don't know. Do you want it to be part
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» I don't know. Is that granular or should
>> I think it might be good just so the

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school committee knows we've got skin in
the game.

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» Yeah. and might keep our contractor on
the hook with some of these numbers if

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he knows the money's coming.
>> Yeah, could include it.

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» Okay. So, as amended um as seconded with
the friendly amendment of up to 5200.

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All right.
>> From contingency.

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» From contingency.

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I mean, the whole community benefits
from this as we continue to use that

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space.
>> It's a great step in the right

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direction.
>> Yeah. The concerts,

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» how could the concerts get even better?
Well, but also even by by being able to

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hear everybody,
>> but even the committee meeting that

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we're going to have
>> Yeah. Even the committee meeting that

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we're going to have with the chairs and,
you know, two to three people of each

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committee,
>> we can't have that here.

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» Yeah.
>> We're going to have to spill over into

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the rest of the building.
>> Um, so

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» Okay. That's that's kind of the things
that I'm thinking of as as we use it.

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» Yeah.
>> All right. So, all those in favor

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» and that is unanimous.
>> Okay.

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Thank you.
>> Please keep us posted.

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» All right.

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» All right.
And coming to our next agenda item.

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» Do we want to jump down to minutes and
see if we can I know we're only three

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minutes out, but some folks may still be
shooting for that seven.

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» No, that's great.
Just trying to find an agenda. All

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right, here we go.
All right. So, first let's take up the

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July 28 minutes. June.
>> June 28 minutes.

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» No, that's actually July. That was the
Oh my god. Twice.

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» That is twice. Second time.
>> I

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» He's just holding on to summer. I get
it.

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» July.
>> No, I'm I'm good. June, right?

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» No, I'm good with All right. So, um,
with regard to the July 28 minutes, um,

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and the revisions that we circulated to
fix any Yeah. little little um typos and

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those kinds of things. I'll entertain a
motion regarding those minutes, please.

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» I move that we accept the minutes of
July 28th.

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» Yes.
>> Second.

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» All right. All those in favor?
>> All right.

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» That's unanimous.
>> Perfect. And then the same with the

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August 18. Did everybody get a chance to
go through those?

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» And that was actually August.
>> Yes.

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» Um All right. And uh then um is there a
motion to approve the August 18 minutes?

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I'll move that we approve the August 18
minutes as amended. Did we amend them?

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» We didn't amend them. They're not a we
revise.

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» Revised,
>> but a amend amendment.

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» We did something tonight, it would be
>> correct. And we had to do it next time,

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we'd have to amend what we did. So,
>> or if we waited until tonight to point

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out that Tyler misspelled the chief's
name, then we do an amendment here. So,

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» um I think then I also missed that
because I know two Waylands and they're

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spelled that way and my mind was just
typing. So, I missed it too. Sorry,

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Brian. Uh, and anyway,
>> never saw it.

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» No, I know, but we're just we're just
outed ourselves about it.

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» Um, anyway. All right. And I'll second
uh Kathy's motion to approve those

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minutes. Uh, all those in favor?
>> And that is unanimous.

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» All right. Great. Um, and so now we uh
now we're just about at our 7 o'clock,

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aren't we?
>> And there are no continuing items or

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items for review tonight. So, we are at
our 7 o'clock.

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» Okay, great. 659. We're ahead of
schedule a little bit. So, we um have

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our working waterfront proclamation and
uh as y'all know, we wanted to give that

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some more time to be publicly posted
um uh since the last meeting and on the

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18th and so that's occurred. Did you get
any and and it also allowed for folks to

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um submit any um information to you any
response to that proclamation?

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» We did not. Okay. Okay.
>> So, and it has been on the website now

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since August 18th or 19th. So,
>> yeah,

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» it is up there
>> like even the 17th. If our meeting was

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the 18th, it was like the 17th or the
16th.

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» Yeah. So, um but we have the working
waterfront proclamation. I don't know if

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it benefit to read it for the record or
it'll be posted in a multitude of places

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after this.
>> Um I I think it I think it should be

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read. Would you like to read it or would
you like

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» I can or do you want to read it, Madam
Chair? Well, let's see if I have my

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glasses, Tyler, to read.
>> Are we going to at some while you're

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doing that, are we at some point going
to talk about how it's going to be um

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where it's going to be posted and how
and stuff like that, or are we going to

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wait? Not tonight.
>> Let's let's get through this and then

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yes, I think maybe we will get to that.
All right. So, here's the proclamation.

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Um whereas Georgetown's identity,
history, economy, and culture are deeply

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connected to the waters, shores, coes,
islands, harbors, mud flats, warfs,

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boatyards, marinas, and marine
businesses that have sustained

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generations of residents, families, and
enterprises. And whereas Georgetown has

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long been home to a vibrant and diverse
working waterfront that includes, among

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other activities and enterprises,
lobstering, clamming, aquaculture,

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worming, commercial harvesting,
boatyards, marinas, marine services, and

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supporting businesses. And whereas the
select board recognizes that working

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waterfront activities are essential to
Georgetown's local economy, maritime

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heritage, food systems, public access,
and sense of place. And whereas

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Georgetown seeks to protect, support,
promote, and advocate for a commercial

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marine base that remains successful,
resilient, diverse, and in harmony with

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the broader community. And whereas the
select board recognizes that residents,

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businesses, visitors, real estate
professionals, and prospective property

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owners benefit from clear public notices
that Georgetown is and intends to remain

411
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a working waterfront community. And
whereas the select board further

412
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:51,919
recognizes the importance of maintaining
natural resources, waterways,

413
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:56,240
infrastructure, and access that allow
current and future commercial marine

414
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:59,679
enterprises, residents, and visitors to
engage with and benefit from

415
00:30:57,679 --> 00:31:04,000
Georgetown's working waterfront. And
whereas this proclamation is intended as

416
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:08,399
a public affirmation of community values
and priorities, and does not create

417
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:13,120
fines, penalties, enforcement
provisions, or restrictions beyond those

418
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:16,320
otherwise provided by applicable law.
Now therefore, the Georgetown Select

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00:31:14,799 --> 00:31:20,960
Board proclaims that the town of
Georgetown is hereby declared a working

420
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:24,960
waterfront community. Be it further
proclaimed that Georgetown proudly and

421
00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:29,440
publicly affirms its intention to remain
a welcoming water working waterfront

422
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:33,360
community that supports the people,
families, businesses, and marine

423
00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:38,080
enterprises that depend upon and
contribute to the town's waterfront.

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00:31:36,399 --> 00:31:41,840
Be it further proclaimed that the select
board encourages public understanding of

425
00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:45,600
the vital role of the working waterfront
and the conditions needed for it to

426
00:31:43,519 --> 00:31:49,600
thrive, including continued commitment
to access, infrastructure, natural

427
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:52,960
resources, and balanced community
development. Be it further proclaimed

428
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:56,880
that the town will endeavor to
communicate this designation through

429
00:31:54,960 --> 00:32:01,200
appropriate public means, including the
town website, outreach to Georgetown

430
00:31:59,200 --> 00:32:05,440
residents and businesses, the main
association of realtors, and signage or

431
00:32:03,760 --> 00:32:08,960
other notices as determined by the
select board. And then in witness

432
00:32:07,519 --> 00:32:13,200
whereof, the Georgetown Select Board
adopts this proclamation on the date

433
00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:20,159
written above. So that's what is at
issue. You've received no comments or

434
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:23,200
response to that. Um, we have we do have
members of the working waterfront, two

435
00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:26,799
members of the working waterfront work
group. Um, why don't you all come on up?

436
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:32,600
Pat Burns and John Jones. They've put a
lot of work into this. Please, if you'd

437
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,600
like.

438
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:44,399
» Thank you for coming tonight. We
appreciate and we know you were both

439
00:32:41,919 --> 00:32:49,919
here for the public hearing uh in the
spring. Um, so, uh, what would you like

440
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:54,559
to say, um, about this proclamation or
this proposed proclamation? We'll start

441
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:56,480
with you, Pat, and then John.
>> I didn't anticipate having to say

442
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,159
anything.
>> You don't have to say anything

443
00:32:58,559 --> 00:33:05,279
» because I think you did a great job. I
mean, the proclamation pretty much says

444
00:33:01,919 --> 00:33:12,480
it all. I will just say anecdotally that
I've uh, presented this or discussed it,

445
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:18,640
I would say, with the Brunswick clan, I
should say. Yeah.

446
00:33:15,600 --> 00:33:21,919
kefish committee and got a real wide
response. You know, they're going to

447
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:27,039
actually look at doing it themselves.
Everybody I've talked to in the aqua

448
00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:34,159
farming area as well as people in the
main aquaculture association are very

449
00:33:30,480 --> 00:33:38,240
supportive and uh pushing us forward.
>> Great. Okay. Great. Okay, John. And I

450
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:42,080
know and John, we did get your letter
and thank you very much. We didn't have

451
00:33:39,519 --> 00:33:45,679
a chance to uh acknowledge that, but we
are acknowledging it. Thank you for your

452
00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:49,600
thoughtful letter to us about this
proclamation.

453
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:55,919
» Okay. My thoughts on it is um as you
indicated, I provide it to the select

454
00:33:51,760 --> 00:34:00,559
board. My thoughts on it. First of all,
I'm encouraging each of you to support

455
00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:06,240
it and vote positively for the
proclamation.

456
00:34:03,360 --> 00:34:12,960
assuming that happens in my
correspondence to each of you I had put

457
00:34:08,879 --> 00:34:17,839
going forward and um those were my
thoughts I didn't share that with any of

458
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:23,200
the other uh committee members uh we
haven't met since the hearing

459
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:28,399
» um but
the first part is if if you approve the

460
00:34:26,879 --> 00:34:34,000
proclamation
and you want to go forward with it as a

461
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:39,919
um ordinance
I indicated that I'm willing to stay on

462
00:34:36,879 --> 00:34:47,440
it and continue on with it.
>> Thank you. And um then I I outlined some

463
00:34:44,399 --> 00:34:54,480
items that I thought were relevant that
I think if we were to go forward trying

464
00:34:50,720 --> 00:34:59,440
to seek this as a ordinance, those items
I think should be hopefully you guys

465
00:34:57,040 --> 00:35:06,480
have read it and consider it uh or would
consider it. Um on that um the only

466
00:35:04,880 --> 00:35:13,359
thing I Well, let me let me just say
this. You're seeing the same two people

467
00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:18,320
In my notice to you, you you'll notice
that I had put that I thought that the

468
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:22,160
committee should be expanded to at least
two more individuals.

469
00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:25,599
» And you may remember, John, that it was
originally there were three three

470
00:35:23,839 --> 00:35:30,320
additional people. I think what happened
is as the group coalesed in the early

471
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:35,839
stages, it was the same four or five of
us. And so um but that's not

472
00:35:34,079 --> 00:35:40,079
» I think it makes perfect sense. There's
a lot of stakeholders. There's a lot of

473
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:44,880
initiatives we have in town that should
be broadened to include upstate.

474
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:49,520
» So you're that was my thought that
>> you're seeing the same two people and

475
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:55,040
this is not not for the other two. Um
the other other two individuals

476
00:35:52,400 --> 00:36:01,280
say they have scheduling issues and
other commitments that perhaps Pat and I

477
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:06,960
don't have luckily. Um, but here here we
are. And and I think that it would be

478
00:36:04,720 --> 00:36:13,680
better for the town to have more
representation than just Pat and I. um

479
00:36:11,359 --> 00:36:19,680
uh as I put in there in my
correspondence, I think we could get a

480
00:36:16,240 --> 00:36:22,880
little broader uh based communitywide
um

481
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:32,400
a little more of the residents and and
and part of my thought in preparing this

482
00:36:27,760 --> 00:36:38,880
was from the draft uh ordinance hearing.
Um, and obviously you guys were there.

483
00:36:35,839 --> 00:36:44,960
Um, and I don't think that the town folk
were really against the idea of the um,

484
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:50,960
working waterfront community
designation. What they were more opposed

485
00:36:48,240 --> 00:36:56,400
to was it being an ordinance and it
should have been proclamation which

486
00:36:52,960 --> 00:37:04,079
we're now going through hopefully. Um,
so without belaboring us a whole lot, I

487
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:10,240
think if we if if the town decides they
want to go forward with it, I I think

488
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:15,920
that we need to have better
more people on the committee, better

489
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:20,560
outreach by whoever's on that committee,
reaching out to different people, uh,

490
00:37:18,240 --> 00:37:24,160
the lobster and the claimers themselves.
I don't think we did a good job with

491
00:37:22,079 --> 00:37:28,640
that. and not a knock for the group, but
I I just don't think we did a good job.

492
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:34,560
Um
the the issue that I put in here that we

493
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:40,800
relied pretty much on one real estate
agent um that the group sort of said,

494
00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:45,599
well, that person says it's a wonderful
thing and we're going forward. All the

495
00:37:43,359 --> 00:37:49,200
all the real estate people were for it.
And apparently they weren't because

496
00:37:47,200 --> 00:37:54,240
obviously at the hearing the one person
that did speak up pretty much wound up

497
00:37:51,599 --> 00:38:00,480
muting everything that the committee was
trying to say uh denouncing it and

498
00:37:56,640 --> 00:38:08,720
saying it it wasn't. Um
I myself had spoken to staff at the um

499
00:38:05,359 --> 00:38:13,200
main um real estate association
and um

500
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:19,040
their position was
you guys George you can do whatever you

501
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:27,920
want but this is not a state mandate and
real estate agents are only required to

502
00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:33,839
put forward to their buyer sellers what
the state says you must tell and since

503
00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:37,599
this isn't one of those items basically
their position was do what you want

504
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:43,839
Georgetown but you're not going to
mandate this on us you can urge us to it

505
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:47,599
and work with us from that vein but it's
not something that could be mandated

506
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:50,960
» and it and it's just worth noting that
going the route of the proclamation and

507
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:54,880
having this designation right
>> if you checked out Down East magazine's

508
00:38:53,119 --> 00:38:58,320
Facebook page over the weekend there was
a great article

509
00:38:56,480 --> 00:39:02,880
» um by one of our Georgetown residents
about how Georgetown and Fippsburg were

510
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:05,359
quote more Maine than Maine largely
because of the working waterfront

511
00:39:04,720 --> 00:39:08,640
community.
>> Right.

512
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:12,320
» Um so this might actually help folks
drive up some sales. So that's a right

513
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:15,200
incentive, but I digress.
>> And and you know, I think part of the

514
00:39:13,599 --> 00:39:20,480
outreach that you're talking about is,
you know, some signage and and committee

515
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:25,040
um people talking about it. I think one
of the things that we heard a lot was um

516
00:39:23,520 --> 00:39:30,400
enforcing
existing access. And so, as we've said,

517
00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:35,680
it doesn't, you know, a one homeowner
Kathy can Kathy can allow access on her

518
00:39:33,359 --> 00:39:39,520
property. Later on, if she sells and
buys a different house in Georgetown,

519
00:39:37,359 --> 00:39:43,920
that next uh buyer does not have to
allow access. The intention is to

520
00:39:41,839 --> 00:39:49,680
continue the access. That would be the
goal in this um because there is uh as

521
00:39:47,839 --> 00:39:52,560
people have noted um both in public
comment

522
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:56,160
» whenever these meetings because we've
had a couple offormational meetings as

523
00:39:54,160 --> 00:40:03,200
well before the ordinance
>> um uh access is important because the

524
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:07,200
there isn't a lot but that is entirely a
residential decision

525
00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:11,599
» right and that that's also that that
point I did put in in my correspondence

526
00:40:09,359 --> 00:40:16,720
for you that again I believe that the
committee could have done a better job

527
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:19,920
of distinguishing between
where the town has formal town landing,

528
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:24,160
» right?
>> It's known. No, nobody's going to

529
00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:31,280
complain about people going.
>> But if I were to allow someone to access

530
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:35,760
my property to get to a waterway to do
their or whatever it would be,

531
00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:39,119
» that's fine. But if I sell my property,
>> right,

532
00:40:36,560 --> 00:40:43,440
» that goes away. And I don't believe that
the committee did a good job of

533
00:40:41,599 --> 00:40:46,720
distinguishing that difference.
>> Well, it only came up at the ordinance

534
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:50,800
hearing that was not talked about at
theformational meeting at the historical

535
00:40:49,440 --> 00:40:55,040
society because I think y'all would have
addressed it. Marissa was there and

536
00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:58,640
she's talked about it since then about
the tidelines and all of that.

537
00:40:57,040 --> 00:41:02,480
» I'm not disagreeing with you. All I'm
saying is I think we could have done a

538
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:08,960
better job of explaining that and making
it very clear to people. And and the

539
00:41:05,200 --> 00:41:16,800
last point I'll make um is my my last
point that was in by correspondent that

540
00:41:13,680 --> 00:41:23,040
I believe that if the town wants to go
forward this as an ordinance,

541
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:30,800
it's incumbent on the select board and
your town attorney to tell us what's the

542
00:41:26,960 --> 00:41:34,880
difference between a not the difference
what would be the benefit of an

543
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:38,720
ordinance versus a proclamation the
effect right so that if we're going to

544
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:47,200
go forward with it and again I don't
think that either the town nor the

545
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:51,200
committee itself made a very good case
for we we just said hey it's going to be

546
00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:56,400
an ordinance and we all were very
supportive of right from the get-go but

547
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:59,119
it at the the meeting you saw what
happened it sort of broke down at the at

548
00:41:58,319 --> 00:42:02,960
the hearing
>> and we figured it was better to go with

549
00:42:01,359 --> 00:42:09,359
a proclamation get something than
nothing. So my point being is that if if

550
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:13,520
ultimately the town wants to go forward
as an ordinance, I really think it would

551
00:42:11,359 --> 00:42:19,520
be very beneficial
if you want the committee to continue on

552
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:23,520
as an ordinance and the town tell us,
okay, what's going to be that

553
00:42:20,880 --> 00:42:27,920
difference? Why should we do it as an
ordinance and not? Because that was one

554
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:31,920
of the issues that came up and I think
all of you guys struggled with it. We

555
00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:35,920
certainly struggled with it. I will say
that um before Tyler and I can tell Pat

556
00:42:34,160 --> 00:42:40,079
wants to speak too. I can I think I can
see it in his eyes. But I will say that

557
00:42:38,240 --> 00:42:45,280
um tonight is the proclamation. That's
that's at issue. But secondly, um as

558
00:42:43,119 --> 00:42:51,280
you've heard us say before, we won't
take undertake any major initiative in

559
00:42:47,839 --> 00:42:55,839
in town uh withoutformational
meetings. We just can't because right

560
00:42:53,680 --> 00:43:00,880
because even when we did this, we still
got surprised at the hearing about. So

561
00:42:58,160 --> 00:43:05,440
it just really it needs some leadup. not
one one uh meeting but two three

562
00:43:03,359 --> 00:43:10,240
meetings for any major initiative
whether that's this or STRs or right

563
00:43:08,240 --> 00:43:14,640
» uh anything that would have a major
effect on our um governance

564
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:17,760
» but what were you going to say I was
really going to get back to the fact

565
00:43:15,839 --> 00:43:22,880
that tonight we get to really celebrate
this awesome piece and I'd note that

566
00:43:20,160 --> 00:43:26,960
when this was started a long time ago
many moons ago now um it was a workg

567
00:43:24,960 --> 00:43:29,599
group that was set up with a task that
this is kind of the deliverable at the

568
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:33,520
end
>> so I think if the town were to move

569
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:37,599
forward, we'd want to reconstitute a new
committee with a new charge and I just

570
00:43:35,839 --> 00:43:41,200
say not to get into the weeds on
ordinance or not.

571
00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:44,800
» The biggest question is what behavior
are we trying to regulate in an

572
00:43:42,960 --> 00:43:48,960
ordinance? What are the teeth?
>> Outside of that proclamation is exactly

573
00:43:47,359 --> 00:43:53,920
where we're at now. And I know that at
the outset we actually were hoping

574
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:58,880
Harpswell was in the process of adopting
it working waterfront ordinance and they

575
00:43:56,960 --> 00:44:02,480
hit some roadblocks and ultimately it
became a footnote in their comp plan

576
00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:07,040
that they'd be revisiting.
>> So for what that's worth but this is a

577
00:44:05,119 --> 00:44:11,680
really exciting evening. So,
>> okay. So,

578
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:17,920
» I think one of the ancillaries that I
think you might be getting at is um

579
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:23,599
what we hope is that this spawns
something like for example

580
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:28,640
there are a lot of historic
uh leans they're not leans exactly but

581
00:44:25,839 --> 00:44:33,920
passages across land.
What I would like to see is you can't

582
00:44:30,720 --> 00:44:38,800
regulate it. it uh it can't be
legislated.

583
00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:43,359
But what we can do is use anformational
technique. And that is anybody who is

584
00:44:41,280 --> 00:44:50,000
going to sell their property who has a a
passage and has been historically been

585
00:44:46,240 --> 00:44:57,440
there. that be we would hope we would
hope that they would mention that in the

586
00:44:53,280 --> 00:45:02,319
closing that I have allowed clamming
whatever it happens to be worming knows

587
00:44:59,520 --> 00:45:07,280
what it's going to be to uh wormers to
pass over my land and I would very much

588
00:45:04,880 --> 00:45:11,599
appreciate that you would maintain that
would set up the handshake the next

589
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:18,079
handshake agreement with the new owner
and the clamor the wormer whoever that

590
00:45:14,480 --> 00:45:24,640
may be but not lose historic passage
that we have had for decades

591
00:45:21,520 --> 00:45:29,200
» in some cases centuries
>> and I know one in particular.

592
00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:31,920
» Okay. Thank you, Pat.
>> All right. Do you all have any

593
00:45:30,319 --> 00:45:37,119
questions?
>> I think it's I think it's eloquently

594
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:38,720
stated and um really is something to
celebrate.

595
00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:42,000
» Yes.
>> No question. Very proud of that. Thank

596
00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:46,240
you for all your work.
>> Yes, absolutely. All right. With that,

597
00:45:43,680 --> 00:45:49,599
I'll entertain a motion.
Did you have something else, Jan?

598
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:53,440
» No, I was moving in my direction, huh?
Okay.

599
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:58,000
» I move that we adopt the um proclamation
of the Georgetown Select Board declaring

600
00:45:55,520 --> 00:46:03,200
Georgetown a working water community.
>> I will second. I will third it. Okay.

601
00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:04,480
All those in favor. It's unanimous.
>> Unanimous.

602
00:46:04,079 --> 00:46:08,880
» Okay.
>> And so we're going to now declare a

603
00:46:06,560 --> 00:46:12,560
brief five minute or less recess. Sign
the proclamation while we have folks

604
00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:15,599
here because we have executive sessions
tonight. Yeah. wanted to get a picture

605
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:20,079
and then we'll be back at the select
board meeting very quickly.

606
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:25,440
» Yeah, three minutes probably
going to pause the recording here.

607
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:30,720
» Here is
>> and then we'll on reports

608
00:46:28,560 --> 00:46:34,560
and we're back at 7:20.
>> Okay, so now we are no longer ahead of

609
00:46:33,040 --> 00:46:40,960
schedule. We are a little bit behind.
Um, and we would uh love to have Mike

610
00:46:37,839 --> 00:46:46,000
Mcloid, our EMA director, and uh Chief
Whan join us um to talk about the

611
00:46:43,839 --> 00:46:51,760
memorandum of understanding with the
Sagodok County EMA uh team. And so we've

612
00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:53,440
got Mike here.
>> I'll begin, Brian.

613
00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:57,359
» Yes.
>> So, go ahead.

614
00:46:54,960 --> 00:47:01,520
» Phil Bill Davis, the SAG EMA director
who's very aggressive, very very much

615
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:06,079
building out his department, right?
>> Yes. um send a memorandum of agreement

616
00:47:03,839 --> 00:47:08,079
which essentially I think for my reading
of it, have you had a chance to read it?

617
00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:12,160
» Yes.
>> Everyone. Yeah.

618
00:47:09,200 --> 00:47:16,079
» Okay. Um it sort of formalizes
a lot of what's in place

619
00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:21,280
» but maybe expands the control of the
county a little bit more in a certain

620
00:47:17,920 --> 00:47:27,280
sense. It centralizes the administration
operations planning and training for

621
00:47:23,200 --> 00:47:31,119
emergency management. Um, in particular
from my standpoint, it um, you know, we

622
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:34,000
have an emergency management plan, but
it's not, it hasn't been updated in a

623
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:36,480
while, and it probably looks different
than Witches and looks different than

624
00:47:35,359 --> 00:47:41,839
Dresen's.
>> Um, I think Phil's image is to

625
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:47,359
essentially be able to have the town's
plans be able to roll up into the

626
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:49,599
county's plans so that I mean, the core
aspect of this is sharing resources,

627
00:47:49,280 --> 00:47:56,160
right?
>> Yes. Um, so if something bad happens,

628
00:47:52,640 --> 00:48:00,720
um, and we need resources for, uh, a bad
chemical spill or something that we

629
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:07,440
respond the same way that Woolwitch
responds, the Arasic response. So that's

630
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:08,960
my understanding of it and I'm in
support of it.

631
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:14,079
» Okay.
>> Um, I think it's favorable for the town.

632
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:16,000
Um, Brian and I have discussed it a
little bit. Brian, you want to take it

633
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:19,359
from there?
>> Thanks, Mike.

634
00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:24,880
» Uh, yeah, thanks, Mike. the I would
agree with exactly what Mike said. It's

635
00:48:21,359 --> 00:48:30,079
uh going to kind of centralize some
certain things. Um it's going to take

636
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:34,319
some of the uh necessary but very
timeconuming things off of our plate

637
00:48:32,160 --> 00:48:39,040
here in Georgetown and again kind of
make it more uniform across the county I

638
00:48:36,240 --> 00:48:45,680
feel like and um you know really give us
uh an added boost to give us access to

639
00:48:42,319 --> 00:48:49,119
resources and options and um try to get
a bit more of everybody on the same page

640
00:48:47,680 --> 00:48:54,079
reading out the same playbook which I
think I'm all for. So, um, yeah, I think

641
00:48:52,720 --> 00:49:00,240
it's a I think it's going to be
worthwhile and, uh, it's an advantage to

642
00:48:56,319 --> 00:49:06,480
us as a community to, uh, to go into
this agreement with them.

643
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:10,960
» Okay. Do we have any questions for Mike
or or Brian? Go ahead.

644
00:49:08,079 --> 00:49:14,160
» I had just one uh, right now, which is,
do we know what the other towns are

645
00:49:12,559 --> 00:49:17,920
doing? Because we can come into
alignment with Sagpar County, but it

646
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:21,440
would be nice to know if the others are
planning to do that also. That's that's

647
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:25,119
a good question because during the
emergency management meeting sometimes

648
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:30,240
the attendance isn't that strong. So I'm
not sure how how well Phil is rallying

649
00:49:27,359 --> 00:49:34,480
that everyone. Um we might be the first
in the pool. I know Bath was at odds

650
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:39,280
with it a tiny bit um maybe on the
particulars of the language. I haven't

651
00:49:36,559 --> 00:49:43,839
read it very closely or with that much
of an understanding of

652
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:48,400
obligations and that kind of document.
So someone with that understanding

653
00:49:45,599 --> 00:49:52,480
should probably be reading it. Um, but
you know, I don't know that Woolwitch is

654
00:49:49,839 --> 00:49:56,960
I I did speak with the EMA from the
emergency management director from

655
00:49:53,920 --> 00:50:01,040
Woolwitch. Um, he was going to go
through the same process as I understand

656
00:49:58,720 --> 00:50:06,720
it. I don't know how strongly he feels
plus or minus on it.

657
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:13,920
» And Ryan, do you have any concerns about
any of the language and how it um binds

658
00:50:09,599 --> 00:50:18,240
the town or gives up some control to uh
SAG?

659
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:25,280
» No, I don't. Um, I did read it through a
couple times. Um, and I didn't really

660
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:29,760
find any spots where I felt like,
uh, are we we're giving up any kind of

661
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:32,960
real control. I mean, the the things
that they were going to take over, the

662
00:50:31,119 --> 00:50:39,440
county's responsibilities are things
that, um, if we need to get to that

663
00:50:36,559 --> 00:50:45,520
point with a major incident uh, or an
event that uh, we would be asking for

664
00:50:42,319 --> 00:50:48,800
their assistance anyway. So it it's
like, yeah, okay, of course. Yeah, you

665
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:51,520
want to take on that, that'd be great
because I don't have time for that right

666
00:50:50,400 --> 00:50:55,839
now,
>> right? And not that giving up I don't

667
00:50:53,760 --> 00:51:00,079
want to uh signal that giving up control
is a bad thing. Sometimes that's a good

668
00:50:57,760 --> 00:51:03,599
thing because it systematizes and it,
you know, it it it has a clear path for

669
00:51:02,319 --> 00:51:07,359
what's going to happen. This is the
process that's going to occur if there's

670
00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:12,960
a chemical spill. We know it because we
have this MOA M. Yeah.

671
00:51:11,119 --> 00:51:17,040
» Yeah. Yeah. Go ahead. And I just note
that one of the concerns that uh Mike

672
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:20,720
and I talked about a little bit was
around the personnel management

673
00:51:18,319 --> 00:51:25,359
language, but when you dive in further
um you talk about the county agrees to

674
00:51:22,480 --> 00:51:27,920
provide senside services, etc. They list
A throughF, one of them's personnel

675
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:31,760
management, right?
>> That to me is a concern of giving up

676
00:51:29,520 --> 00:51:35,920
control. But when you get to the section
personnel funding, it's very clear that

677
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:39,599
we retain local control and that the
town wouldn't get caught up in costs

678
00:51:38,400 --> 00:51:43,599
without blessing them.
>> I went through the same pattern. Yeah.

679
00:51:42,000 --> 00:51:46,640
» On the first read of it, I was like, I'm
not gonna have Phil tell me what to do.

680
00:51:45,280 --> 00:51:50,400
But then, um,
>> you know, the other paragraphs were

681
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:52,559
clearly were within our control.
>> Yeah,

682
00:51:50,720 --> 00:51:54,960
» absolutely. That that's how I read it.
And

683
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:57,920
» I do think that tonight we weren't
looking to adopt, but start the

684
00:51:56,720 --> 00:52:01,599
conversation.
>> Phil was eager

685
00:51:59,599 --> 00:52:06,480
» to come down tonight, but I figured
let's have a local control conversation

686
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:09,920
first, and if we end up in the next
couple of days having questions we want

687
00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:12,160
to tweak, we can get them to him.
>> Okay. um and bring him back for a

688
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:17,040
meeting to
>> Does he have a a potential deadline for

689
00:52:14,400 --> 00:52:20,160
when he'd like or do we know?
>> You know, there's no deadline. You know,

690
00:52:18,559 --> 00:52:23,760
I think a lot of it could be done kind
of asynchronously with Bill. We know he

691
00:52:22,000 --> 00:52:27,520
likes to pitch things and he's great at
it. Um but

692
00:52:25,520 --> 00:52:31,599
» I you know, if you look at the document
and have some things that you want to

693
00:52:29,119 --> 00:52:33,839
» you want to address red line, I think he
could probably get a lot of it done.

694
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:39,280
» Yeah.
>> Um I don't know that there's that much

695
00:52:36,960 --> 00:52:42,720
more for him to explain. Brian could
differ with me on that.

696
00:52:40,480 --> 00:52:46,400
» Yeah, I
>> um I think it's pretty I think

697
00:52:44,400 --> 00:52:51,119
» pretty
reasonable really for both parties.

698
00:52:49,520 --> 00:52:55,440
» I think it's very reasonable. I think
that um I think Phil's nice and

699
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:56,880
aggressive and is is building out a
capacity,

700
00:52:56,319 --> 00:53:01,200
» right?
>> And he's seeing is that this is a means

701
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:05,520
to do that. And um I think it's in our
best interest. I don't think there's a

702
00:53:03,440 --> 00:53:08,160
necessarily a price tag associated with
right now. In fact, I think it's kind of

703
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:11,359
in that game for us.
>> Yeah. And on that not I was just going

704
00:53:09,599 --> 00:53:14,480
to say on the budget advisory committee
on the SAG county side when I was

705
00:53:13,119 --> 00:53:19,200
sitting there looking reviewing the
budget for FY27

706
00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:24,240
um you know that he has a pretty robust
proposed budget. He had a pretty robust

707
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:28,079
proposed budget maybe with this in mind.
So it is something we can take a look

708
00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:30,240
at. I misunderstood that I thought we
were going to be adopting it based on

709
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:32,960
that.
>> We we definitely could. I mean I agree

710
00:53:32,480 --> 00:53:37,760
that the
>> I think Yeah. I mean, let's give it if

711
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:42,480
if we if let's sit with it a little bit,
make sure we are all comfortable with

712
00:53:39,119 --> 00:53:46,400
that language and then look to um take
action on the 22nd. Is that something

713
00:53:44,480 --> 00:53:50,720
that y'all are comfortable with, Kathy
and Katie? Okay.

714
00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:54,079
» But no one I think what Brian and Mike,
you should be hearing from us is we're

715
00:53:52,079 --> 00:53:58,960
not we're in support of this. Great.
>> We just uh want to review the Nothing

716
00:53:57,119 --> 00:54:02,000
about the language jumped out at me. I
reviewed the personnel thing. I also was

717
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:07,520
concerned about because I didn't want
SAG telling our Georgetown EMA Yeah. uh

718
00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:10,880
director um what to do because we're you
know we are the bridge community we are

719
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:13,599
and so there's going to be times where
we may different our approach and that's

720
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:16,720
okay too.
>> Absolutely.

721
00:54:14,079 --> 00:54:20,640
» And I do think we need to up update our
and and maybe change if that's what it

722
00:54:18,400 --> 00:54:26,720
is our emergency operations plan. It's
got it's got Justin as you know

723
00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:32,880
» it was pre-built. This is this is one of
the there's it's not urgent, but that's

724
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:35,839
» for me why to do this because my plan
gets rolled up into everybody else's.

725
00:54:34,880 --> 00:54:38,880
» Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
>> Or at least it's going to get rolled up

726
00:54:37,040 --> 00:54:41,920
into SAG SAG counties.
>> Nobody else joins us. So,

727
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:43,200
» and Phil writes it,
>> right?

728
00:54:42,240 --> 00:54:47,839
» Good.
>> Right. I'm curious to know which other

729
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:50,000
municipalities sign on.
>> Yeah. I I don't know that anyone signed

730
00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:52,640
on yet.
>> Okay. Yeah,

731
00:54:51,440 --> 00:54:56,240
» we can we can check.
>> Yeah. I mean again at the budget at the

732
00:54:54,480 --> 00:55:00,240
BAC meetings you know we were all
talking about his budget right because

733
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:04,640
you got Woolitch there and you got West
Bath and so you know I would imagine

734
00:55:02,880 --> 00:55:08,319
Topsome there's a lot of discussion
about that budget so I think this you

735
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:11,680
know I think we probably will see other
communities join

736
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:16,559
» because we have you know we're being
assessed for that work already.

737
00:55:14,319 --> 00:55:20,960
» I'm going to um
>> approve it. We we could parse the fine

738
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:24,559
print and make sure there's something
that's so we'll we'll come back. You

739
00:55:22,880 --> 00:55:28,480
don't need to you don't need to be in
person on the 22nd, but if you want to

740
00:55:26,559 --> 00:55:30,160
join us on the 2, but you can be back on
the 22nd.

741
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:33,599
» Thank you, Mike. Thanks.
>> Thanks, Mike. Thanks, Brian.

742
00:55:31,839 --> 00:55:39,280
» Thanks.
>> All right.

743
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:42,880
And then uh moving back down. Let's see.
I think we're going to now jump down to

744
00:55:41,920 --> 00:55:46,480
continuing items.
>> Uh and we actually have no continuing

745
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:50,880
items and nothing for review.
>> Yes. Um, there was a slew of

746
00:55:48,160 --> 00:55:54,480
correspondence that was provided. Um, of
particular note, I wasn't finding

747
00:55:52,720 --> 00:55:58,079
funding opportunities in Senator King's
list that really applied to Georgetown,

748
00:55:56,720 --> 00:56:02,240
but I'm going to continue to send those
along because we may know somebody in

749
00:56:00,160 --> 00:56:05,359
town that could benefit from one of
those programs, too. So,

750
00:56:03,839 --> 00:56:09,520
» and we do want to give him a shout out
for his post that he shared with us. And

751
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:13,760
so, do you want to tell everyone since
you shared it with us? Um, Senator King

752
00:56:11,599 --> 00:56:18,960
actually was in town this past weekend
and saw the sign about no fire permits

753
00:56:16,880 --> 00:56:24,240
until real rain and he thought that was
an example of good government in action

754
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:28,240
being very clear and direct and it got
thousands of likes which was pretty cool

755
00:56:25,920 --> 00:56:31,280
for Georgetown to get those props. Kudos
Brian and the department.

756
00:56:29,359 --> 00:56:37,520
» Yeah. And he said what his post said
something like um this is what uh a town

757
00:56:35,040 --> 00:56:41,040
this is common sense from a town not the
fancy one Georgetown Maine. So that was

758
00:56:39,280 --> 00:56:43,040
great. Yeah, they were at Oysters. He
and Mary Herman were at Oysters that

759
00:56:42,559 --> 00:56:45,280
weekend.
>> That's awesome.

760
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:51,440
» And then the Post happened. So, yeah.
Yeah. Okay. Um listening to Michelle and

761
00:56:49,119 --> 00:56:55,040
Mark actually play. So, that was fun.
All right. Um and so, yeah. Anything

762
00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:58,160
else that we have questions about?
>> I thought the flock camera letter is

763
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:01,200
something that
>> we do need to talk about. So, we

764
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:06,319
definitely want to talk about that. Um
so, let's start start off with that.

765
00:57:03,599 --> 00:57:10,400
» Uh it prompted me to go to that website
that shows you where all of the

766
00:57:08,079 --> 00:57:14,480
surveillance cameras are. I think 70% of
them are actually branded as a flat

767
00:57:12,079 --> 00:57:18,640
camera. Um, there aren't any in
Georgetown, there aren't any in Arasic.

768
00:57:16,400 --> 00:57:25,119
There's four in Witch.
>> So, there's a cluster in Woolwatch that

769
00:57:21,359 --> 00:57:27,680
we all pass every time we go through the
intersection near Derry.

770
00:57:26,319 --> 00:57:30,559
» Do they have their own police department
in Witch?

771
00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,960
» Because we don't have law enforcement
down. I mean, right,

772
00:57:31,520 --> 00:57:35,839
» that sounds like we're the wild west,
but we we don't. So,

773
00:57:34,799 --> 00:57:38,240
» I don't think Woolish has a
>> They don't

774
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:42,160
» police department. I think they rely on
s I'd be curious to see who put those

775
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:46,240
cameras in up and which too. Was it
state police? Was it DOT? Or was it

776
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:50,960
» Sag information on the website about who
or when they were put up, but

777
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:55,440
» I have a Sagot Hawk manager meeting on
Thursday. I can definitely ask Kim up in

778
00:57:53,359 --> 00:58:01,359
Woolwitch for a little more details.
>> Right. Yeah. Um I listened to a podcast

779
00:57:59,359 --> 00:58:07,119
about them and got a little bit more
information. I don't feel like I have

780
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:12,799
everything I need. Thank you for
providing the Auburn.

781
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:17,200
» Yeah, that was take on it. Yeah.
>> Yeah, there are quite a few

782
00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:20,480
municipalities that are banning them
outright

783
00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:23,440
» until and that's how I feel. I think
that they

784
00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:26,319
» we don't need to mess with that until we
know what how what and how they're being

785
00:58:25,680 --> 00:58:30,160
used.
>> It's kind of like how AI started.

786
00:58:28,559 --> 00:58:32,000
» Remember how AI started and everybody
was like, "What is this?"

787
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:38,240
» Yeah.
>> And now and now it's here. every day,

788
00:58:34,799 --> 00:58:39,920
» but it at least you know then you were
allowed some time,

789
00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:43,680
» right?
>> So that's essentially what you're asking

790
00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:46,400
for. Let's have some time.
>> Yeah.

791
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:51,040
» And the good news is Mandy asking for an
ordinance. I don't anticipate the select

792
00:58:49,280 --> 00:58:55,280
board calling a special town meeting at
this stage for that. So we do have time

793
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:59,839
ahead of town meeting next year to get
more info, see what's going on in the

794
00:58:57,119 --> 00:59:04,880
region, find out how did the language in
Auburn pass, did it not? And I'd say of

795
00:59:02,640 --> 00:59:09,440
that Auburn language,
um, given the fact they have their own

796
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:12,160
law enforcement in town,
>> right,

797
00:59:09,839 --> 00:59:15,440
» a lot of that makes sense if that's a
community value that Auburn voters want

798
00:59:14,480 --> 00:59:21,760
to pass.
>> Whereas in Georgetown, we don't have law

799
00:59:18,799 --> 00:59:25,760
enforcement directly. So,
more food for thought. And I'm going to

800
00:59:23,920 --> 00:59:29,359
continue myself diving in. It was
actually kind of fun. Kathy had asked a

801
00:59:28,079 --> 00:59:33,680
couple of questions that I thought I
knew the answer to based on an article

802
00:59:31,599 --> 00:59:37,680
and within an hour I realized, wow, my
answer was bad and I got on the phone

803
00:59:35,520 --> 00:59:41,599
and corrected that. But we want to make
sure that we're just

804
00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:44,319
crossing tees and dotting eyes
>> and and this is the kind of thing that

805
00:59:42,960 --> 00:59:48,799
we just were talking about. you know, if
we if we decided to move in a direction,

806
00:59:47,119 --> 00:59:54,079
you know, to take a stand on this one
way or the other, we we would be having

807
00:59:51,280 --> 00:59:57,920
once again someformational meetings to
gauge the community and see what the

808
00:59:55,839 --> 01:00:01,760
community thinks about this and and what
are our values. I mean, we're very, you

809
00:59:59,599 --> 01:00:05,040
know, we're much smaller community than
Auburn

810
01:00:02,880 --> 01:00:11,200
» and this is what they decided, which
ultimately was to ban them, right? Is

811
01:00:08,160 --> 01:00:15,359
there a kind of response the select
board would like me to get back to Mandy

812
01:00:12,799 --> 01:00:19,599
that we're going to continue to look at
current events and what's going on or

813
01:00:18,079 --> 01:00:21,520
» Well, first we appreciate her bringing
it, you know, forward.

814
01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:28,559
» Yeah.
>> Um and taking the time as a very

815
01:00:23,200 --> 01:00:30,960
thoughtful letter. Um and uh what else
we want to say?

816
01:00:29,119 --> 01:00:34,160
» We'll be gathering information.
>> Yeah. Little R&D time.

817
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:38,000
» Absolutely.
>> I think you've already responded to her

818
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:41,680
a little bit. you've acknowledged.
>> I I agree. I think I think it's an

819
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:47,119
interesting discussion. I think it's
bigger than AI. Well, Flock is it's

820
01:00:44,799 --> 01:00:52,880
bigger than Flock. It's AI powered
surveillance meth

821
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:56,480
which she mentions, but it's also
where does Constitution right to freedom

822
01:00:54,880 --> 01:01:00,400
and privacy begin and end?
>> Yeah. I mean, and people are very

823
01:00:58,400 --> 01:01:03,760
specific about, you know, some people
don't want their pictures on Facebook or

824
01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:07,040
they don't want them to be on social
media and they may not know this is

825
01:01:05,839 --> 01:01:10,240
happening. And then others are like,
well, there are and and there are

826
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:12,960
sometimes legitimate law enforcement
reasons to have cameras.

827
01:01:11,599 --> 01:01:16,720
» Yeah. Well, you know,
>> Director Robin Hood probably has lots of

828
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:22,319
them already because they caring for
people's property and we have about 50%

829
01:01:19,200 --> 01:01:25,040
of our housing closes up for some period
of time in the winter,

830
01:01:23,359 --> 01:01:28,559
» right? Yeah. So, I bet a lot of those
people have

831
01:01:25,839 --> 01:01:32,720
» the flat cameras don't do faces.
>> It's just

832
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:36,319
» just the license plates and any kind of
bumper sticker, any sort of on the

833
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:41,680
vehicle.
>> Yeah.

834
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:44,480
» Scans that and makes note of it somehow.
>> Yeah.

835
01:01:43,359 --> 01:01:46,400
» With some of these security cameras
because we have them all over my

836
01:01:45,680 --> 01:01:48,960
building.
>> Yeah.

837
01:01:47,040 --> 01:01:51,359
» But we're going to continue to dive in
and Yeah.

838
01:01:50,240 --> 01:01:55,599
» get some community feedback.
>> Okay. Great.

839
01:01:53,839 --> 01:01:58,880
Um, all right. Thank you. The only other
thing that I just flag in the main

840
01:01:57,040 --> 01:02:04,079
office of community affairs newsletter,
they do talk about a working waterfront

841
01:02:01,839 --> 01:02:06,400
conference in Bar Harbor in November.
Yes.

842
01:02:04,400 --> 01:02:09,119
» Um, I'm working to get some more details
on that. I did dive in a little bit

843
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:13,040
more.
>> Um, there's an early bird registration

844
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:18,000
fee that cuts off this week. So, I don't
think we're going to hit that. It's only

845
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:21,280
a $25 difference, but I'd encourage
select board members. I'll forward that

846
01:02:19,599 --> 01:02:24,880
email directly so you can click the
links. Yeah.

847
01:02:22,240 --> 01:02:29,200
» Um, just so dive in and see, but as
we're becoming a working waterfront

848
01:02:27,119 --> 01:02:32,799
community, that may be something we want
to have a select board member or

849
01:02:31,200 --> 01:02:34,400
somebody from the town or the committee
represent the town for.

850
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:37,839
» Yeah.
>> And hotel rooms in Bar Harbor because

851
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:41,280
it's a two-day event.
>> Right now, we're about 165 a night. So,

852
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:45,839
there's
>> a way it could be doable.

853
01:02:42,880 --> 01:02:49,920
» Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Um, I I might be
interested in going and I um would I

854
01:02:48,000 --> 01:02:52,799
mean we'll have to see sort of if I
could work that out and I would have I

855
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:55,359
think
>> potentially a place to stay that

856
01:02:54,160 --> 01:02:58,400
wouldn't cost the town.
>> Even better.

857
01:02:56,079 --> 01:03:04,880
» Yeah. So, but that doesn't preclude
anyone else from going and I have things

858
01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:09,200
I would otherwise have to also square
away before I could be away overnight.

859
01:03:07,599 --> 01:03:12,799
» So, I'm thinking let's think on it. I'll
circulate some more details and maybe on

860
01:03:11,119 --> 01:03:15,280
the 22nd we can Yeah.
>> see if we want to designate someone.

861
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:18,160
» Yes, for sure.
>> Yeah.

862
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:22,160
» Um Yeah. So, you're going to send us the
email with the links. Thank you.

863
01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:28,640
» Okay. Thanks.
All right. And um now we are ready for

864
01:03:25,599 --> 01:03:31,839
our committee updates. Uh would you like
to go Katie?

865
01:03:29,839 --> 01:03:36,799
» Sure please. Thank you.
>> Um

866
01:03:34,000 --> 01:03:42,880
August 24th,
was a while ago was a planning board

867
01:03:39,359 --> 01:03:48,079
morning meeting. Um they discussed um
the YouTube channel posting and

868
01:03:45,119 --> 01:03:53,359
recording their meet meetings and um
they all thought it was a good idea. Um

869
01:03:51,280 --> 01:03:57,200
four applications were updated. There's
solar sign building and demo and

870
01:03:55,440 --> 01:04:01,920
wireless and the new forms were
approved.

871
01:03:58,720 --> 01:04:08,640
um the CEO had input on those forms that
was taken into account. Um part-time

872
01:04:05,680 --> 01:04:13,280
CEO, he the forms were asking more of
him. So, they wanted to be mindful about

873
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:18,880
adding work for him on any of those new
applications. Um they expect every

874
01:04:16,880 --> 01:04:23,119
applicant to fill their forms completely
and it shouldn't be a burden to the CEO

875
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:29,359
to chase down applicants for missing
information. It slows down the board.

876
01:04:26,079 --> 01:04:33,039
Um, so the hope is that applications
come to the meetings complete.

877
01:04:31,359 --> 01:04:36,000
» Is that clear on the application that
you've seen?

878
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:39,839
» Um, is that made clear?
>> It's oversightes. It's missing

879
01:04:37,760 --> 01:04:43,839
information. They they worked really
hard to make the application's very

880
01:04:41,760 --> 01:04:46,559
clear, but they need to be completed.
Yeah.

881
01:04:44,319 --> 01:04:49,760
» Um, it's more user error.
>> Yeah. Okay. That's what I was very

882
01:04:48,559 --> 01:04:57,520
clear. I assume it is.
>> Oh, there. Yeah, they're great. Um,

883
01:04:54,400 --> 01:05:01,760
so what else?
There was a discussion about whether the

884
01:04:59,039 --> 01:05:07,280
CEO has a job description and he does.
>> Um, a board member had created a lengthy

885
01:05:04,880 --> 01:05:12,559
list of items to take a look at. Um,
just kind of gleaning from previous

886
01:05:09,359 --> 01:05:19,119
meetings and minutes and the board went
through them and um, addressed each item

887
01:05:17,119 --> 01:05:25,440
and no applications were processed at
that meeting. The next evening there was

888
01:05:21,599 --> 01:05:30,400
a um BOA special meeting to approve the
extension of the variance for 142 Old

889
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:35,280
Schoolhouse Road and the new deadline is
now mid November.

890
01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:40,160
» September 2nd there was a planning board
meeting. Four applications were approved

891
01:05:37,520 --> 01:05:44,960
including a wireless tower application.
>> Um it's pending some documentation and

892
01:05:42,799 --> 01:05:49,520
application edits.
Um, they also had just received

893
01:05:46,799 --> 01:05:54,079
notification on LD273,
which is the housing development

894
01:05:51,200 --> 01:05:57,520
allowance, and um, they talked about its
impacts on Georgetown.

895
01:05:56,000 --> 01:06:02,400
» Um,
and we're going to go over that later,

896
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:08,079
so maybe I'll breeze by that. Um, and
then on the 8th, they had another

897
01:06:05,039 --> 01:06:13,520
planning board meeting where they
finalized the comments on that that

898
01:06:10,640 --> 01:06:19,359
notification for LD 2173 where they're
requesting

899
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:25,440
um, public comment. Um,
and we'll go more into that. The another

900
01:06:23,119 --> 01:06:31,200
thing they spoke to today was um, the
designated growth areas in town. Um,

901
01:06:28,319 --> 01:06:36,079
when a town adopts a comprehensive plan,
the growth areas are mandatory unless

902
01:06:33,680 --> 01:06:44,000
they're exempt for natural resources.
Um, and designating the growth areas is

903
01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:49,440
required. So, um,
it allows the state to get grants or the

904
01:06:46,400 --> 01:06:55,359
town to get grants. Um, we have two
designated growth areas in Georgetown.

905
01:06:52,240 --> 01:07:02,319
And this new um I'm pretty sure it's
this new law also changes things around

906
01:06:59,359 --> 01:07:07,760
for designated growth areas increasing
density, housing density. So they just

907
01:07:04,640 --> 01:07:11,839
wanted to talk through that. Um and then
last night was the fire department

908
01:07:09,119 --> 01:07:16,160
meeting and ambulance one and eventually
ambulance 2 are getting new lock

909
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:18,640
mechanisms so that the doors can unlock
and lock with a key fob.

910
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:23,440
» Oh, good. Okay.
>> High-tech. And then September 21st, the

911
01:07:21,520 --> 01:07:28,079
county is activating their new um
communication towers. Um good,

912
01:07:26,000 --> 01:07:32,960
» which is great. It's dividing the county
into north and south. And all of their

913
01:07:30,799 --> 01:07:37,839
radios and pagers will get reprogrammed
the week prior to that activation.

914
01:07:36,000 --> 01:07:42,079
» And then they have a training on the
22nd. And then they have their spaghetti

915
01:07:40,079 --> 01:07:47,359
supper and open house on the 3rd and
4th. And there's coasters on the doors

916
01:07:43,920 --> 01:07:50,880
» of y. So, those are coming right up.
>> And I think that's all I have. Okay,

917
01:07:50,160 --> 01:07:53,760
brilliant.
>> Yeah, thank you.

918
01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:59,599
» Kathy.
>> Well, um I just attended the Georgetown

919
01:07:56,799 --> 01:08:04,720
School Committee meeting on August 19th.
The coming school year is going to be a

920
01:08:01,359 --> 01:08:10,079
contract negotiation year and the school
board will be our our school committee

921
01:08:07,599 --> 01:08:13,680
will be representing the town for
negotiation.

922
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:17,279
The new interim or principal was
introduced at that meeting. at Swain

923
01:08:15,280 --> 01:08:22,560
Door who will be filling in for
Principal Miller until her maternity

924
01:08:19,279 --> 01:08:26,239
leave ends uh which I believe is in the
late fall. He has previously been at the

925
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:31,199
Georgetown School. I think you brought
that up earlier. Yeah. Um I did attend

926
01:08:28,719 --> 01:08:35,040
the August 24th planning board meeting
September 2nd and Katie covered them

927
01:08:33,759 --> 01:08:38,239
really well so I'm not going to say
anything.

928
01:08:36,159 --> 01:08:44,480
» Shelfish Conservation Commission uh
committee meeting was September 3rd. Um

929
01:08:41,839 --> 01:08:50,080
and they discussed monthly meeting
format, clarified it. Um they're kind of

930
01:08:47,120 --> 01:08:56,080
jumping off to a new way of trying to be
um a little bit more structured or a

931
01:08:53,759 --> 01:09:00,000
little bit structured. Marissa Mcahan
also offered to administer Zoom for the

932
01:08:58,319 --> 01:09:03,520
hybrid sections and she was going to be
in touch with you about that.

933
01:09:01,279 --> 01:09:07,759
» Perfect. Yeah, that's great. uh a a
research scientist named Kate Clever who

934
01:09:05,759 --> 01:09:12,719
is working on a shellfish restoration
pro project in the basin area in

935
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:17,520
Fifsburg joined the meeting to discuss
her project and ask if the shellfish

936
01:09:15,120 --> 01:09:23,199
conservation committee would support a
similar pilot restoration project in

937
01:09:20,319 --> 01:09:29,120
Georgetown and the shelf fish committee
is interested um she has some funding

938
01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:33,520
she'll be looking for more funding um
and she'll coming over here uh the

939
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:40,880
shellfish committee had ordered seed
clam seed and it's arriving in October

940
01:09:36,239 --> 01:09:43,839
and they're going to uh get it ready for
planting. I'm not sure that's the

941
01:09:42,480 --> 01:09:45,279
technical term, but they're going to put
it down

942
01:09:44,400 --> 01:09:50,880
» in the fall.
>> Yeah, the August water quality sampling

943
01:09:48,319 --> 01:09:55,840
at Saget Hawk Bay was good. The water
quality was good. They found no

944
01:09:52,239 --> 01:10:00,960
problems. A few sampling t sites in Sag
Bay had tested positive for caulifform

945
01:09:58,640 --> 01:10:04,320
» in the spring. So, this is very good
news.

946
01:10:02,239 --> 01:10:08,400
Uh, and conservation commission meets
next week, but I just wanted to remind

947
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:15,120
everyone that coastal cleanup is this
Saturday. Um, bring in your um help help

948
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:20,800
clean up the the uh coastlines, the
beaches, and marshes if you can. And

949
01:10:17,679 --> 01:10:26,400
bring your uh stuff in. There's there's
collection material, bags, and things in

950
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:28,080
a bin outside the town office. And we'll
see you there.

951
01:10:27,120 --> 01:10:30,960
» What time?
>> Oh, I think we start at 9:00.

952
01:10:29,520 --> 01:10:33,679
» 9:00. I think it's 9 to 12. We're
setting up at the

953
01:10:32,320 --> 01:10:36,159
» And there there'll be a table at the
transfer station, right?

954
01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:41,120
» Yes. Yes. Okay.
>> Come on down. It's fun. I mean, it's fun

955
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:43,440
to just be there. We we um love seeing
people who bring stuff in. We love

956
01:10:42,800 --> 01:10:46,080
Crazy.
>> Yeah. We love seeing people who don't

957
01:10:44,880 --> 01:10:49,440
bring stuff in, but they just want to
come over and talk about trash they have

958
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:52,000
found. So, it's a good time.
>> Yeah.

959
01:10:49,679 --> 01:10:55,199
» And it's it's a good thing. The whole
>> There's an International Coastal Cleanup

960
01:10:53,679 --> 01:10:58,800
during the month of September. So, we're
just part of a much bigger thing.

961
01:10:57,679 --> 01:11:06,960
» So, thank you.
>> All right. Thank you. Um, all right. And

962
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:12,159
so, uh, let's see. We'll start, um, I'll
start backwards a little bit. The, uh,

963
01:11:10,560 --> 01:11:17,440
keeping along with the schedule. So,
September 12 is Coastal Cleanup.

964
01:11:13,679 --> 01:11:23,040
September, uh, 19 is Art in the Park,
uh, show, um, sponsored by Reed, uh,

965
01:11:19,679 --> 01:11:27,199
Friends of Reed. And, um, that is in
conjunction um, as y'all know, with the,

966
01:11:25,520 --> 01:11:34,719
uh, fall frolic that the rec committee
does. So I believe the art show is 10 to

967
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:39,199
2 10 to 1 and um and uh fall frolic is
11:30 to 1:30. So um there's both are

968
01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:43,280
going to have music. Both are going to
have food. It's free to Georgetown

969
01:11:41,520 --> 01:11:48,400
residents and I assume they'll still
work out the ticket thing uh with y'all.

970
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:52,640
So just be aware that if you have a park
pass, use that please. Otherwise, if you

971
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:56,400
need a ticket to get in, see the town
office. Is that or no? No, we're not.

972
01:11:55,120 --> 01:12:00,800
» I have not been told that yet.
>> No. So don't. Okay,

973
01:11:57,679 --> 01:12:02,880
» strike that. Do not see the town office,
>> but they're meeting.

974
01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:07,679
» They're meeting tomorrow.
>> So, I bet I'll have details soon.

975
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:11,920
» Yes. So, um I to be amended that
comment. Um but in any event, those are

976
01:12:09,679 --> 01:12:15,600
the big uh those are coming up the
following weekend after coastal cleanup

977
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:20,320
and I'm glad they no longer clash with
each other. Um, and so yes, Wreck is

978
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:26,320
continuing to work on uh that and
presumably um looking towards I hope

979
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:31,520
working collaborating with uh the GCC on
a Halloween gig, but um I'll find that

980
01:12:28,719 --> 01:12:35,520
out at tomorrow's meeting. And um we've
already heard from the working

981
01:12:32,400 --> 01:12:41,679
waterfront group. So um they are on a
pause and except for the outreach that

982
01:12:37,920 --> 01:12:46,159
they would like to do. Um
the uh you've already covered some of

983
01:12:43,760 --> 01:12:50,000
the other committees that we a few of us
may have over overlapped with each

984
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:58,880
other. So I'm going to skip over those.
Um the harbor committee met in um gosh

985
01:12:56,400 --> 01:13:02,880
early at end of end of August. And so,
uh, they talked, uh, quite a lot about

986
01:13:00,719 --> 01:13:09,040
the, um, mapping that they're doing,
which is a very, um, fascinating project

987
01:13:05,360 --> 01:13:16,400
that, uh, uh, Woody and Frank and, uh,
Mike Fina are doing with the, um, uh,

988
01:13:13,120 --> 01:13:21,679
uh, with the, um, the moorings. Yes. Um,
so, um, that's that's very interesting

989
01:13:19,199 --> 01:13:25,520
and that work continues and to learn
about what they're doing is is helpful.

990
01:13:24,080 --> 01:13:28,560
Um, did you want to say anything about
that because I know you've talked to

991
01:13:26,560 --> 01:13:31,920
Woody some more about that. I not at
this statement.

992
01:13:29,199 --> 01:13:37,040
» Okay. All right. And um so that's Harbor
Committee. Then of course uh we we are

993
01:13:35,199 --> 01:13:43,920
kicking off our evaluations of town
employees this week. Um the uh and so

994
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:49,679
those will uh occur on a rolling basis
as you know. And so um that work uh

995
01:13:47,679 --> 01:13:53,679
that's under the personnel committee
which we all three although I'm the

996
01:13:51,520 --> 01:13:58,320
point person we're all three doing that
um as much as we can together. And then

997
01:13:56,159 --> 01:14:01,679
the uh personnel work group will be
getting together. We're going to need to

998
01:13:59,679 --> 01:14:05,679
use as I think we I've talked with you
from time to time both for evaluations

999
01:14:04,239 --> 01:14:11,360
which you already know but we will
always ask you before we book it

1000
01:14:08,239 --> 01:14:16,400
» um an appointment to use the conference
room because it's a busy place. Um, so,

1001
01:14:13,920 --> 01:14:22,880
but the working waterfront um group,
excuse me, the uh the evaluations we'll

1002
01:14:20,159 --> 01:14:27,040
need um to continue booking and I know
we're going to talk about that more some

1003
01:14:24,320 --> 01:14:32,080
tonight, but also the um personnel
policy work group will be starting its

1004
01:14:29,520 --> 01:14:35,920
meetings and so we'll ask you when the
conference room is available and try to

1005
01:14:33,520 --> 01:14:40,400
work around um being mindful I know that
y'all are working at the same time. So,

1006
01:14:38,159 --> 01:14:43,600
um and I think that's it for my
committees. I do believe I'm forgetting

1007
01:14:42,000 --> 01:14:51,360
something, but I I know we're anxious to
get moving on. So, um, their minutes are

1008
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:53,679
are presumably on online.
>> Okay, go ahead, Tyler. What's with the

1009
01:14:52,719 --> 01:14:57,040
next agenda item?
>> So, I will be very quick with my town

1010
01:14:55,360 --> 01:15:00,560
administrator update. I just wanted to
flag that tomorrow morning, uh, we'll

1011
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:06,719
have a special select board meeting
that'll be executive session, um, to

1012
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:10,880
tackle some items. The September 10th,
I'll be at a SAG at a hawk manager

1013
01:15:08,400 --> 01:15:13,840
meeting at 10:00 am. It's in Fippsburg.
I'm going to try to attend that in

1014
01:15:12,159 --> 01:15:18,560
person. I may have to zoom it just with
the way this week has been. Um on the

1015
01:15:16,800 --> 01:15:22,719
15th of September, the Nature
Conservancy is potentially holding an

1016
01:15:20,640 --> 01:15:26,640
open house for their pavilion at
Ledgemir, but they wanted me to check in

1017
01:15:24,480 --> 01:15:30,239
with the select board and see. Can't
promise that if the date doesn't work,

1018
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:35,440
they can't move forward, but wanted to
check in with us first. Um it'd be from

1019
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:38,080
3:30 to 5, so it's the middle of the
day.

1020
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:41,440
» They'd want us to attend. uh there make
sure at least we feel invited. So the

1021
01:15:40,159 --> 01:15:45,679
town office select board
>> September 15 which is next week and

1022
01:15:43,840 --> 01:15:50,000
because it's so close I feel like the
date could still shift but that was the

1023
01:15:47,920 --> 01:15:54,719
last date that I'd heard. So for what
that's worth on the 17th the select

1024
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:59,600
board will be taking a trip to Mahan and
I'm excited for everyone that will be

1025
01:15:56,640 --> 01:16:04,480
attending that. Um on the 22nd I just
want to flag that we will likely have an

1026
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:08,080
update on new voting machines. Um, Angie
is going to be working on some of that.

1027
01:16:06,400 --> 01:16:12,880
State of Maine is buying new voting
machines. There's a big contract piece

1028
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:16,560
to that. Um, at this stage, we don't
believe there's going to be a town cost,

1029
01:16:14,560 --> 01:16:21,040
but if there is, we want to make sure
that's upfront to us, but Division of

1030
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:27,120
Elections is moving that way. So, for
what that's worth. Um, today, uh, 26

1031
01:16:24,960 --> 01:16:31,920
properties went to lean. Um, Angie on
her way north to her conference, um,

1032
01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:36,640
stopped at the registry of deeds to do
that. So, thank you, Angie. We'll keep

1033
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:40,640
folks posted on as those trickle off or
eventually could move towards

1034
01:16:37,920 --> 01:16:44,880
foreclosure. Um still underway on
reviewing property cards from the

1035
01:16:42,159 --> 01:16:49,440
assessor. Um that is a big focus that we
have been working on in the town office

1036
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:54,320
to be ready once splits are here. So in
the month of October or early November

1037
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:58,480
we can commit taxes because for the last
few years we've been trying to tack

1038
01:16:56,400 --> 01:17:02,880
towards October and I'm still hopeful
but some leg work that we're finishing

1039
01:17:00,480 --> 01:17:07,600
up on that front. I talked about the
working waterfront convention. I wanted

1040
01:17:05,199 --> 01:17:12,080
to flag that Buster reached out today
from the Shellfish Committee. They will

1041
01:17:09,679 --> 01:17:16,640
be having a special meeting on September
24th at 6 p.m. and he said he would be

1042
01:17:14,800 --> 01:17:20,320
in touch with you, Kathy, but just for
what that's worth, they're bringing in a

1043
01:17:18,400 --> 01:17:22,800
scientist to to come. So,
>> okay.

1044
01:17:21,120 --> 01:17:25,760
» I don't have all the details, but it
should be interesting. Um

1045
01:17:24,480 --> 01:17:29,280
» that's at 6, Tyler.
>> Yeah, on the 24th.

1046
01:17:27,199 --> 01:17:34,320
» Okay. Um, and then I wanted just to flag
that um I'm hoping in the next by the

1047
01:17:32,560 --> 01:17:40,320
next meeting, possibly the first one in
October, just depending on timeline, to

1048
01:17:36,960 --> 01:17:44,560
have a draft insert for tax bills for us
because that's another piece of that

1049
01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:50,800
commitment process. That does mean I'd
ask folks that are working with the

1050
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:57,040
solid waste committee um to potentially
ask them to in the month of October

1051
01:17:54,800 --> 01:18:03,199
talk about the holiday schedule. I know
that on the one hand they prefer to do

1052
01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:07,840
that later in the season, but I can say
residents really find that insert of

1053
01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:12,719
relevant dates very helpful when a lot
of folks have it on their fridge. Um,

1054
01:18:10,400 --> 01:18:16,080
town report is not quite done yet, but
we're working on chucking through the

1055
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:21,600
audit to pull out relevant documents
that end up in there. I did want to ask

1056
01:18:18,560 --> 01:18:25,920
the board, um, some years the town has
dedicated the town report. I'd like us

1057
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:29,679
to move forward and dedicate that in
memory of Bramwin given that that was

1058
01:18:28,080 --> 01:18:33,199
the last year that she would have been a
part of.

1059
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:35,600
» Um, is that an okay move forward?
>> Sure.

1060
01:18:33,920 --> 01:18:37,600
» Do you need a letter or something that
will go with it or you going to write

1061
01:18:37,120 --> 01:18:41,760
something?
>> I'll I'll get something written up. Um,

1062
01:18:39,520 --> 01:18:44,800
but she'll be right on the first page in
there and we've got a good picture of

1063
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:50,000
her from town meeting that I think will
be exciting to share. Um, just on the

1064
01:18:48,159 --> 01:18:54,480
assessing front, I just wanted to flag
for folks, we had one property that the

1065
01:18:52,480 --> 01:19:00,320
town has been dinged for, so to speak,
from Main Revenue Services regarding um,

1066
01:18:57,760 --> 01:19:05,440
exemptions. The property had previously
been owned by individuals and had moved

1067
01:19:02,400 --> 01:19:09,280
into an LLC and the town had failed to
pull off those two exemptions. So,

1068
01:19:07,280 --> 01:19:14,880
there's minor costs associated with
that. Um, and lastly, when it comes to,

1069
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:18,640
and I, and I mean really minor, it's
less than a thousand dollars, and it's

1070
01:19:16,400 --> 01:19:23,360
going to come right out of the aotment
that main revenue gives us anyway. So,

1071
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:28,080
for what that's worth, um, we did
receive the preliminary valuation as

1072
01:19:25,360 --> 01:19:32,480
we're looking towards next year, uh,
2027. The state thinks the town of

1073
01:19:30,719 --> 01:19:39,760
Georgetown will be valued, if you added
up, all property, real estate, etc. at 1

1074
01:19:36,239 --> 01:19:46,800
billion 36,150,000.
In 2026, it was 1 bill11,300,000

1075
01:19:44,480 --> 01:19:52,239
942 million the year before. But it's
worth noting the taxable valuation isn't

1076
01:19:49,679 --> 01:19:57,760
that high number. Um last year we had a
valuation of around 1 billion 11 million

1077
01:19:55,199 --> 01:20:03,760
and change. Our taxable valuation was
918 million. The difference being

1078
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:06,960
exemptions and tax programs. So all
kinds of assessing stuff coming. I

1079
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:11,280
realized I've hit way too many topics,
but don't hesitate to reach out if you

1080
01:20:09,280 --> 01:20:15,679
have any questions along those fronts.
So, and I can answer them now, too, if

1081
01:20:13,199 --> 01:20:17,760
need be. But I just said a lot.
>> Thank you.

1082
01:20:16,159 --> 01:20:23,120
» My voice hurts.
>> You need some more water. I have water.

1083
01:20:19,840 --> 01:20:29,840
Anyone need it? Um, all right. Uh, and
now any questions for Tyler?

1084
01:20:26,400 --> 01:20:34,880
» Okay, we're ready for Chief Wayland.
>> All right. Thanks, guys. Um, so, uh,

1085
01:20:33,120 --> 01:20:38,719
like, uh, Katie just said, I got a
couple things, um, regarding vehicles.

1086
01:20:37,360 --> 01:20:43,679
Our ambulances are getting the locks
upgraded to meet our new DA

1087
01:20:40,560 --> 01:20:48,159
requirements. Uh, ambulance ones is in
now, should be back by the end of the

1088
01:20:45,199 --> 01:20:53,280
week, and, uh, ambulance 2 will be in
early October, it looks like, um, to get

1089
01:20:50,960 --> 01:20:58,239
that same work done. Um, looking forward
to that. Uh, next in after that is tank

1090
01:20:56,400 --> 01:21:03,600
two. has got an air leak somewhere in
one of the air actuators for the dump

1091
01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:08,960
shoots, but uh we'll get that in after
the ambulance is in. And uh that's what

1092
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:13,199
we got from vehicles right now. Uh we're
up to about 87 calls for the year, which

1093
01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:19,280
is a little bit below where we were at
this time last year. Um so that's fine

1094
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:24,880
for us. We did have a pretty busy uh
Labor Day weekend uh regarding calls,

1095
01:21:22,239 --> 01:21:32,159
but um we're able to handle most of
them. We did have bath come down um for

1096
01:21:29,280 --> 01:21:39,120
some of them, but uh we were able to get
out for most of them. So

1097
01:21:35,600 --> 01:21:42,640
the uh did checked on that today and uh
looks like Bath has come down to or been

1098
01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:47,920
dispatched for Georgetown already nine
times this year. I'm not really sure

1099
01:21:44,719 --> 01:21:53,920
exactly if there's a specific
uh reason for that necessarily, but um

1100
01:21:51,600 --> 01:21:57,840
something we're keeping an eye on. Um, I
know we budgeted for for 12 this year,

1101
01:21:56,159 --> 01:22:03,360
so we're already pretty high on that.
Uh, hopefully we can cut that down as

1102
01:21:59,360 --> 01:22:07,679
the year goes. Um, working on trying to
brainstorm some solutions for that, but

1103
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:12,320
um, it really comes down to
availability, who's around when the call

1104
01:22:09,120 --> 01:22:17,760
comes in. So, um, keep an eye on that
moving forward. Uh, we have the Five

1105
01:22:15,360 --> 01:22:22,239
Islands uh, roof repair should be
getting going uh, this fall before it

1106
01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:29,199
gets too cold. Uh we got the deposit
sent out to the roofing contractor uh

1107
01:22:25,280 --> 01:22:35,040
last week. Uh looking into getting some
forestry upgrades. Um we're talking like

1108
01:22:32,239 --> 01:22:39,920
internally on uh you know maybe adding
some equipment or um maybe some extra

1109
01:22:37,679 --> 01:22:45,679
forestry hose, some supply hose, things
like that. Um for uh so we'll have that,

1110
01:22:43,920 --> 01:22:50,800
you know, ready to roll for next
probably next season. Uh is the way

1111
01:22:47,679 --> 01:22:56,719
we're looking at it right now. Um, uh,
in relation to the, uh, woodfire we had

1112
01:22:53,760 --> 01:23:01,440
back in the end of July, uh, I did find
out from the Forest Service that an

1113
01:22:58,480 --> 01:23:06,159
individual was summoned for, uh, burning
on land that was not theirs and, uh, for

1114
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:12,239
failure to extinguish. Uh, so the
summones have been issued at this time.

1115
01:23:08,159 --> 01:23:15,120
So, uh, that's where we are on that. Um,
we have our new

1116
01:23:12,960 --> 01:23:21,440
» Does that mean does that mean that the
person uh, was found? And when you say

1117
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:25,679
it's been issued, um, it's also been the
summon has been served or just issued.

1118
01:23:23,920 --> 01:23:28,159
» I don't know the the exact word that I
got was issued at this point. So, I

1119
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:30,800
don't know if it's actually been served
yet.

1120
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:35,600
» I don't I don't have a timeline on that.
I don't know how recent that is. Um, so

1121
01:23:33,679 --> 01:23:40,639
» that's that's the information I got with
that so far. Um,

1122
01:23:38,159 --> 01:23:45,199
» we have our new uh communications tower
should be online towards the end of the

1123
01:23:42,159 --> 01:23:50,320
month. Um, so we'll have our radios
reprogrammed a bit. um just to match up

1124
01:23:47,520 --> 01:23:55,280
the channels. Um like Kitty said, we're
going to go with a north and south uh

1125
01:23:52,480 --> 01:23:58,800
grouping of channels so that um instead
of hearing the entire county all in the

1126
01:23:57,199 --> 01:24:04,880
same channel, we'll be hearing only half
of the county down here. So, it'll help

1127
01:24:02,239 --> 01:24:09,360
kind of compartmentalize some things and
uh just kind of keep the airwaves clear

1128
01:24:06,400 --> 01:24:13,199
for when we need them. Um but we're
looking forward to that. The increased

1129
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:16,000
coverage should really help us out down
here. Uh it's going to be some minor

1130
01:24:14,719 --> 01:24:19,840
upgrades to the rest of the county, but
I feel like for us, we're really we're

1131
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:25,760
really getting a lot out of this. Uh I
have high hopes um for this coming up.

1132
01:24:22,880 --> 01:24:32,639
So looking forward to that.
Um we have our open house is uh Sunday,

1133
01:24:29,679 --> 01:24:36,560
October 4th from 11 to 1. That's the uh
beginning of fire prevention week. We

1134
01:24:34,719 --> 01:24:40,159
got some uh stuff for the kids. We'll
have our equipment out. Uh encourage

1135
01:24:38,880 --> 01:24:44,639
everybody to come on by. Hopefully the
flyers will be getting up this week. um

1136
01:24:42,800 --> 01:24:48,800
have everyone come on by, meet us, shake
their hand, see how's who's here, what's

1137
01:24:47,040 --> 01:24:51,679
going on, that kind of thing. And uh if
anyone's interested in joining the

1138
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:57,760
department, we could talk to someone
about that uh pretty much anytime. But

1139
01:24:53,679 --> 01:25:03,040
that's a good day for it, too. Um we are
still working on finalizing our uh DA

1140
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:07,040
registration, whatnot. So, we have the
actual registration now. Uh that has

1141
01:25:04,880 --> 01:25:11,760
finally gone through. uh we have our
policies written and I'm working on

1142
01:25:09,040 --> 01:25:16,800
getting the uh our procurement system
set up with our supplier at this point

1143
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:20,000
in time. So that's the step we're on
right now and once we get that fully

1144
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:25,520
engaged we can start to actually
transfer everything over and get that uh

1145
01:25:22,480 --> 01:25:32,560
fully rolling right now. So, we're doing
that. And uh we have added fuel cards to

1146
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:35,600
the vehicles so that uh we can more be
more efficient when we fuel them up. And

1147
01:25:34,000 --> 01:25:40,320
now every vehicle had its own assigned
card, allow us to track the the fuel per

1148
01:25:38,480 --> 01:25:44,480
vehicle and things like that much easier
than we did before. So, those are some

1149
01:25:43,120 --> 01:25:47,440
of our updates right now. Unless you
guys have any uh questions on anything

1150
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:51,840
particular or anything else you want me
to talk about over here.

1151
01:25:51,440 --> 01:25:55,600
No,
>> I would like to thank the fire

1152
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:59,040
department for I know it was a very busy
weekend for them and uh I hope they're

1153
01:25:57,760 --> 01:26:01,679
all doing well, too.
>> Yeah,

1154
01:25:59,679 --> 01:26:06,239
» thank you. We need the signs.
>> Yeah.

1155
01:26:02,480 --> 01:26:10,800
» Well, thank you for
>> um and Tyler, I don't know if you want

1156
01:26:08,159 --> 01:26:13,679
to address this or you want u Brian to
the

1157
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:18,080
» um I don't know if Brian has been told
yet officially. So, Maine CDC reached

1158
01:26:16,560 --> 01:26:22,639
out about
>> five or 10 minutes of five o'clock

1159
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:28,080
tonight. Um there was an animal bite
this weekend and it turns out the

1160
01:26:24,480 --> 01:26:33,280
raccoon was in fact rabid. Um the
language from CDC doesn't indicate where

1161
01:26:30,800 --> 01:26:38,080
the animal was, but connecting dots, my
understanding it is the Bay Point Saget

1162
01:26:36,400 --> 01:26:42,560
Bay Road part of town. Again, the
raccoon is gone and tested, but

1163
01:26:40,320 --> 01:26:47,520
something gave it rabies in that area.
Um we've got wording up on the website.

1164
01:26:45,679 --> 01:26:51,760
» We have all kinds of flyers the state
provided us with that are up in the

1165
01:26:48,960 --> 01:26:56,320
hallway here. and in the comments on the
town Facebook page, which already has

1166
01:26:54,080 --> 01:26:59,320
been getting a lot of attention. So,
>> okay.

1167
01:26:59,679 --> 01:27:03,840
» Well, thanks for the info. We'll uh pass
that along. Keep the keep an eye out.

1168
01:27:03,520 --> 01:27:07,440
» Yeah.
>> And you said that particular rabbit

1169
01:27:05,679 --> 01:27:11,280
raccoon is no more.
>> That is how they test for. So, yes.

1170
01:27:09,920 --> 01:27:13,760
» Yes. Thank Thankfully.
>> Thankfully.

1171
01:27:12,639 --> 01:27:20,080
» Thank you.
>> Yeah. Um Okay, great. And we did notify

1172
01:27:17,920 --> 01:27:24,480
the animal control officer from Bath on
call about that and left a message for

1173
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:29,120
Dory Coolis. I'm sure game wardens are
aware, but that was a fun right after

1174
01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:31,280
the town office closes.
>> Smattering of calls. Yeah.

1175
01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:34,639
» So for what that's
>> people should be aware.

1176
01:27:32,800 --> 01:27:38,480
» Um I mean they're they're everywhere.
>> Yes.

1177
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:42,719
» Um I don't like them as you might
remember.

1178
01:27:40,960 --> 01:27:47,600
But anyway,
um I'll keep my comments to myself. All

1179
01:27:45,040 --> 01:27:52,480
right. So, uh, now we are going to go
to, um, old business and, um, theus

1180
01:27:51,600 --> 01:27:55,120
» are ongoing.
>> They're ongoing

1181
01:27:53,280 --> 01:28:00,080
» and I would say that the and we could
honestly add the Sagot Hawk EMA to the

1182
01:27:57,920 --> 01:28:02,719
list of ongoing ones. Now, that's
technically a memorandum of agreement

1183
01:28:01,920 --> 01:28:05,760
and
>> question I have for Phil is what's the

1184
01:28:04,400 --> 01:28:09,120
difference, but I digress. That'll be
offline, right?

1185
01:28:06,719 --> 01:28:13,120
» Um, and the comprehensive plan check-in
we're going to be deferring until 9:22.

1186
01:28:11,520 --> 01:28:16,800
Yeah, we just we have a lot of business
that we still need to get through uh

1187
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:20,800
tonight, including both executive
sessions. So, makes sense. That's not

1188
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:25,040
something I want to rush. I know y'all
don't want to rush our comp plan

1189
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:29,120
check-ins either. So, all right, let's
uh move on. We have now a date for

1190
01:28:27,120 --> 01:28:34,400
meeting with our committee chairs and
hopefully a second person from the

1191
01:28:31,040 --> 01:28:38,000
committees if we can um so we can when
we talk about uh because sometimes the

1192
01:28:36,239 --> 01:28:41,520
chairs aren't available for the meeting.
So, it's nice to have somebody else from

1193
01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:48,000
leadership there. Go ahead, Tyler.
>> So, that'll be on uh September 29th at 7

1194
01:28:45,120 --> 01:28:51,600
PM and will be hybrid. We're holding it
here at the town office.

1195
01:28:49,679 --> 01:28:55,920
» Um so, the room will be tight. That
said, we'll make it work and folks on

1196
01:28:53,360 --> 01:28:56,719
Zoom um we'll have that available as
well.

1197
01:28:56,159 --> 01:29:01,280
» Yeah.
>> Um I think that part of what we wanted

1198
01:28:58,960 --> 01:29:05,120
to do tonight was just have a check-in.
Um if board members have suggestions or

1199
01:29:03,520 --> 01:29:10,159
thoughts of things they'd like to make
sure we have on that meeting, just

1200
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:14,080
please get those to me. I'd say by
middle of next week so we can have an

1201
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:17,199
agenda for your guys's blessing on the
22nd.

1202
01:29:15,440 --> 01:29:18,560
» And the meeting will be about a week
later.

1203
01:29:17,760 --> 01:29:23,040
» Yes.
>> So, um,

1204
01:29:21,600 --> 01:29:27,040
and we've got so much going on now. I
wonder if we should entertain having a

1205
01:29:25,199 --> 01:29:35,719
an additional select board meeting at
some time just to get through things.

1206
01:29:31,440 --> 01:29:35,719
» Yeah. the comp plan.

1207
01:29:38,080 --> 01:29:41,199
» That's what we get for skipping one
meeting.

1208
01:29:40,320 --> 01:29:45,679
» It's a lot.
>> And I I will say that we have a select

1209
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:48,080
board meeting tonight. Tomorrow was
technically a meeting of the select

1210
01:29:47,199 --> 01:29:52,239
board.
>> Uh we'll have the meeting on the 22nd,

1211
01:29:50,159 --> 01:29:58,000
the visit to McMahan.
>> Um as well as um the meeting with

1212
01:29:55,520 --> 01:30:01,920
committee chairs the following week. So,
I think the select board will be getting

1213
01:29:59,679 --> 01:30:06,159
together with some different hats every
week this month.

1214
01:30:03,520 --> 01:30:10,880
» Um, not saying that's a bad idea, just I
don't know where the time might be in

1215
01:30:08,639 --> 01:30:15,400
September. But,
>> if we needed to workshop before

1216
01:30:15,440 --> 01:30:23,040
on anything that was a priority for us,
we could potentially do it after Macan,

1217
01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:26,080
but depends on how long we'll be on
Macan. But

1218
01:30:24,080 --> 01:30:28,480
» you mean that you can't do it after
>> Yeah. I don't know how long we're going

1219
01:30:27,600 --> 01:30:31,760
to be there.
>> And and again, I think that

1220
01:30:30,159 --> 01:30:36,000
» right you Yeah. Yeah.
>> A lot of these items though we say

1221
01:30:33,600 --> 01:30:40,719
they're ongoing. Some of them will
continue to be ongoing. For instance,

1222
01:30:37,840 --> 01:30:44,000
the schoolou with the town has been on
our list for a while, but that's

1223
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:47,440
something that will be coming.
>> Although that that was discussed uh with

1224
01:30:45,760 --> 01:30:51,040
Elaine at the last school board meeting
in August. So I think they

1225
01:30:49,199 --> 01:30:56,159
» right. But I'm just saying that some of
these things though they appear often

1226
01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:59,440
» were not in a bad place. Um, but
>> I do agree. We want to have some good

1227
01:30:58,000 --> 01:31:04,080
conversations about the comp plan
check-in. Um, I'd say bring some good

1228
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:07,840
notes on the 22nd and we'll plan to dive
in deep unless we do need to have a date

1229
01:31:07,120 --> 01:31:10,480
sooner.
>> Yeah.

1230
01:31:08,159 --> 01:31:15,360
» Okay. Okay.
Um, all right. So uh and then we've

1231
01:31:13,679 --> 01:31:21,199
already addressed the working waterfront
proclamation

1232
01:31:17,840 --> 01:31:26,480
and I think our last new business item
>> all these patient members

1233
01:31:23,440 --> 01:31:29,679
» unless I'm missing it um is the uh
discussion regarding the public comment

1234
01:31:28,400 --> 01:31:33,920
and do we have Rufus too?
>> We do

1235
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:40,800
» and Pam. So we've got I think everybody
planning board Jennifer Dave. Okay.

1236
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:44,320
» Yep. All right. Great. Um All right. So,
uh, I don't know if it's going to be

1237
01:31:42,480 --> 01:31:48,080
Rufus that addresses us or if it's going
to be Bob. Um, how are y'all planning to

1238
01:31:46,480 --> 01:31:50,159
do this, Bob? Okay, come on down,
please.

1239
01:31:48,480 --> 01:31:54,400
» And I just want to state to the planning
board, my apologies that you're at the

1240
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:58,320
end of this meeting. Uh, this addition
to the agenda has been a little bit in

1241
01:31:56,080 --> 01:32:01,840
flux over the weekend, and so I just
would have had you as a scheduled

1242
01:31:59,679 --> 01:32:05,360
appointment earlier, but I appreciate
you being here, Bob.

1243
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:09,800
» That's okay. You'll pay later.
>> I know. I know.

1244
01:32:10,000 --> 01:32:17,199
Okay. Uh, you
I'm sure you've heard almost everything

1245
01:32:15,199 --> 01:32:21,679
I'm going to say.
We got notified about a week ago that

1246
01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:26,239
there is going to be a rule making
proposal

1247
01:32:23,280 --> 01:32:33,199
to carry out the implementation of LD
2173.

1248
01:32:28,880 --> 01:32:38,320
And uh, once we got word of that and
read it, uh, there were some things in

1249
01:32:35,360 --> 01:32:45,600
there that were of concern to us. The
biggest thing that concerned us

1250
01:32:42,320 --> 01:32:52,159
is the statement for any area in which
residential uses are allowed, including

1251
01:32:48,480 --> 01:32:56,800
as a conditional use, a municipality may
not require planning board approval for

1252
01:32:54,800 --> 01:33:01,920
accessory dwelling units or solely
because the project will establish four

1253
01:32:59,199 --> 01:33:06,760
or fewer residential dwelling units
within a single structure on a lot.

1254
01:33:06,880 --> 01:33:13,199
Well, the way that reads, I'm sure it's
not their intention, but it would

1255
01:33:11,199 --> 01:33:18,080
basically
uh eliminate

1256
01:33:15,679 --> 01:33:23,280
the Georgetown Planning Board from
approving any permits.

1257
01:33:21,120 --> 01:33:28,719
» Everything would go to the code
enforcement officer.

1258
01:33:26,080 --> 01:33:35,199
And with the code enforcement officer
being a part-time code enforcement

1259
01:33:30,480 --> 01:33:40,000
officer, that's not fair to him. uh it
basically is pointing the town in

1260
01:33:37,600 --> 01:33:45,600
direction that you would have to have a
full-time code enforcement officer which

1261
01:33:42,560 --> 01:33:52,239
is not anything that you know the
planning board is interested in pursuing

1262
01:33:48,320 --> 01:33:56,960
or even recommending.
Um but at any rate we have the

1263
01:33:54,480 --> 01:34:01,199
opportunity to submit comments and
recommendations

1264
01:33:58,719 --> 01:34:08,719
to the rule making. The deadline for
that is the 18th of this month. Um,

1265
01:34:05,440 --> 01:34:14,800
as Katie said, we've had a couple of
extra meetings and and scrambling to get

1266
01:34:12,239 --> 01:34:21,360
things together and Rufus over the
weekend has put together a uh proposal

1267
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:27,199
uh which basically
tries to straighten out a couple of

1268
01:34:23,440 --> 01:34:32,400
things so that
it it's clarification and makes clear

1269
01:34:30,080 --> 01:34:38,639
that the planning board still does have
permission

1270
01:34:33,600 --> 01:34:45,159
to uh sign building permits for single
family dwelling units uh ADUs and things

1271
01:34:41,920 --> 01:34:45,159
like that.

1272
01:34:45,920 --> 01:34:49,920
And I believe you've all got a copy of
it.

1273
01:34:48,800 --> 01:34:54,719
» Yeah,
>> I can go through and read it or you can

1274
01:34:52,159 --> 01:34:58,880
if you've got questions or comments.
>> No, I do have a question for for Rufus

1275
01:34:56,880 --> 01:35:07,199
on his uh and for both of y'all, I
guess. Um, so you know, at least in the

1276
01:35:01,679 --> 01:35:11,280
legal world, the word may is may, right?
Did y'all already talk about this?

1277
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:13,920
» Okay. So, we don't have to rehash that
discussion.

1278
01:35:11,920 --> 01:35:20,639
» Well, we want your perspective.
>> But, so when I, you know, so I deal a

1279
01:35:16,960 --> 01:35:25,679
lot with rules and, uh, so may is
discretionary. Shall is um, you know,

1280
01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:30,239
has no discretion. So,
>> are you sure you weren't listening in

1281
01:35:27,360 --> 01:35:35,040
this morning? Yeah.
>> So, I mean, so that would just be my

1282
01:35:32,480 --> 01:35:37,840
question. I wouldn't want us. So, I
don't know that. I'll leave it at that.

1283
01:35:36,239 --> 01:35:39,679
That's what I'm throwing out there. In
my world,

1284
01:35:38,960 --> 01:35:44,400
» yeah,
>> and I have not talked.

1285
01:35:42,880 --> 01:35:51,520
» So, go ahead, Rupus.
>> We've done uh we we spent um a lot of

1286
01:35:47,440 --> 01:35:56,239
time on this. Um and I actually uh if if
you look it up, um there are three

1287
01:35:53,840 --> 01:36:03,679
things you could have shall, may or
cannot. And uh shall is a command.

1288
01:36:01,199 --> 01:36:09,520
» You shall not do it.
May not do it means you're not you don't

1289
01:36:06,960 --> 01:36:15,040
have permission to do it.
In other words, without the may not, you

1290
01:36:12,239 --> 01:36:21,040
would be able to do it. So it's it's a
um a setting where if it weren't for the

1291
01:36:18,480 --> 01:36:26,000
may not, you could do it. And then
cannot means uh you don't have the

1292
01:36:23,360 --> 01:36:32,320
capacity. Uh so in the context that
we're dealing with here, the proper use

1293
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:37,760
uh is may not and it means prohibit uh
unless we get this clarification.

1294
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:41,600
» Okay. I just wanted to I I wanted to
know if y'all discussed it. I should

1295
01:36:39,199 --> 01:36:43,199
have known you discussed it, but you
know, I'm just coming to this party

1296
01:36:42,800 --> 01:36:46,480
late.
>> I told them was very simple. Just put a

1297
01:36:45,679 --> 01:36:50,159
comma in there.
>> Yeah.

1298
01:36:48,800 --> 01:36:54,080
The punctuation thing.
>> Yeah, I do love punctuation. All right.

1299
01:36:52,400 --> 01:36:59,040
Great. Well, thanks for the work that
y'all put into this. I had a couple of

1300
01:36:55,760 --> 01:37:04,159
just little uh tweaks to the memo, but
um just a word tweaks. Nothing nothing

1301
01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:08,719
that changes anything substantive.
>> Um

1302
01:37:06,560 --> 01:37:12,560
» I was curious about you getting your
eyes on this document because it does

1303
01:37:10,480 --> 01:37:15,199
read very
>> legalise, right,

1304
01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:18,880
» in a way. And
>> I've only, you know, I've only looked at

1305
01:37:16,560 --> 01:37:22,080
it today after my work day, but yeah.
>> Yeah,

1306
01:37:19,920 --> 01:37:25,840
» we tried to get it through as quickly as
possible and get it in your hands so

1307
01:37:24,239 --> 01:37:28,239
that you could see it because the
deadline is not very far away,

1308
01:37:27,679 --> 01:37:35,280
» right?
>> And I assume that you would want to pass

1309
01:37:31,679 --> 01:37:38,960
it through the town attorney as well.
>> Well, the um maybe maybe not. I'm going

1310
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:44,639
to let Tyler speak to that. I wondered
the same um and and also mindful of the

1311
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:49,199
budget, but go ahead, Tyler.
>> So, I would say that we could certainly

1312
01:37:46,719 --> 01:37:53,760
pass it through the town attorney. Um
she's more equipped to decipher legal

1313
01:37:50,960 --> 01:37:59,360
ease than I am. I can say that in the
past when the town has taken positions

1314
01:37:56,719 --> 01:38:03,360
on policym
testifying before the legislature. We've

1315
01:38:01,440 --> 01:38:08,000
done that on numerous bills. The town
has written resolutions in the past that

1316
01:38:06,080 --> 01:38:12,560
actually I think helped bring
Representative Heeper some of the way on

1317
01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:19,280
housing early on. Those were not things
that were reviewed by town legal

1318
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:23,040
counsel. Um I am mindful that we
only have so much in that budget and

1319
01:38:21,199 --> 01:38:27,840
again there are other buckets if we had
to.

1320
01:38:25,679 --> 01:38:32,719
» I don't know that for testimony I'd
necessarily say it needs to go through

1321
01:38:29,440 --> 01:38:37,360
the attorney. That said, if folks are
wanting to be cautious and make sure

1322
01:38:34,719 --> 01:38:42,080
that things are good, I could see a
definite case for that. Um, but I don't

1323
01:38:40,080 --> 01:38:48,000
think we want to in practice any time
that we offer testimony on a bill to

1324
01:38:46,080 --> 01:38:52,159
send it that way. I know that the
attorney would love that. I know in the

1325
01:38:49,840 --> 01:38:56,400
past when we had a special and private
law in, uh, Py and Flity was working

1326
01:38:54,800 --> 01:39:00,480
really hard to try and get us to let
them take on some of the lobbying for

1327
01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:05,199
that. We held it here. We had part of
ledge counsel right here at our tables.

1328
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:10,480
I just share that may be a good step,
but I don't think it's particularly

1329
01:39:06,880 --> 01:39:14,719
necessary in the sense that this is
public comment to an agency that's in

1330
01:39:12,639 --> 01:39:17,600
the middle of rulemaking and ultimately
we'll make a decision.

1331
01:39:15,760 --> 01:39:23,119
» Is this something that MMA would have
any um particular I mean there's things

1332
01:39:20,480 --> 01:39:26,080
that ought to go through Kristen Collins
and then there's things that MMA can

1333
01:39:25,199 --> 01:39:32,159
address for us.
>> I MMA may take a look at it. I don't

1334
01:39:29,520 --> 01:39:35,840
know with the time that we've got as
well.

1335
01:39:33,040 --> 01:39:40,639
» Um if we want to go that route,
>> I'd note that this came through on a Mid

1336
01:39:38,080 --> 01:39:44,639
Coast Council of Governments newsletter.
>> Um I read I

1337
01:39:42,639 --> 01:39:47,760
» former legislative aid. I'm a nerd. I
read a lot of the legislative bulletins

1338
01:39:46,239 --> 01:39:52,000
from MMA.
>> I could have missed the one asking for

1339
01:39:49,520 --> 01:39:55,760
public comment on this rules. I just
>> share that

1340
01:39:53,040 --> 01:39:58,480
» if we get MMA in it could turn this into
an eight-page document two-page or

1341
01:39:58,159 --> 01:40:00,960
» right
>> then do we get the planning board back

1342
01:39:59,920 --> 01:40:05,360
together? So I just
>> I think it first came into being like

1343
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:11,840
around
August 18th or 19th something like that

1344
01:40:09,199 --> 01:40:16,800
is when it first came out
>> but we didn't get word of it or were not

1345
01:40:14,639 --> 01:40:23,119
informed about it until last week.
>> Right. I'm just saying when it came

1346
01:40:19,760 --> 01:40:30,400
» and you know it's going back to the to
the county council it u the draft was

1347
01:40:29,040 --> 01:40:33,600
written up by a lawyer
>> a pretty good one too I have to say

1348
01:40:32,560 --> 01:40:38,080
» rumor has it
>> yeah and it's it was very well

1349
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:41,679
researched and he gave up his Labor Day
weekend for that so

1350
01:40:39,679 --> 01:40:45,520
» he he gave he put a lot of time into
this so over Labor Day weekend and he

1351
01:40:43,520 --> 01:40:48,560
did have family visiting and so on and
so forth so We're very appreciative all

1352
01:40:48,080 --> 01:40:52,880
the time.
>> Yeah, for sure. Absolutely. It was clear

1353
01:40:50,239 --> 01:40:57,360
you put a lot of time into this, Rufus.
If we had challenge coins, you'd be

1354
01:40:54,560 --> 01:41:03,280
getting one.
>> Is there a difference between submitting

1355
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:07,440
testimony and a comment like this? It
seems like

1356
01:41:04,239 --> 01:41:11,360
» not particularly. So, I mean, this
>> Arya could probably speak to it a little

1357
01:41:09,199 --> 01:41:16,719
bit better than I, but the legislature
passes laws. They often times then have

1358
01:41:14,080 --> 01:41:19,920
an agency develop rules to implement for
the law.

1359
01:41:17,679 --> 01:41:23,280
» That's where we're at on this one. So,
the law has already been passed.

1360
01:41:21,600 --> 01:41:28,000
Normally, we try to head it off at the
pass at the state house, right?

1361
01:41:25,199 --> 01:41:32,159
» But I'll also say that we are very not
picky and choosy on the battles we

1362
01:41:30,480 --> 01:41:37,600
choose to wage, but we've only got so
many arrows in the quiver. Um, this

1363
01:41:34,320 --> 01:41:42,239
definitely seems like a good move to
talk about housing. I think that

1364
01:41:39,199 --> 01:41:45,760
Georgetown definitely has some advice it
could offer here. So, I think it makes

1365
01:41:43,679 --> 01:41:50,080
sense to offer that testimony.
>> Um, but I wouldn't necessarily say that

1366
01:41:48,320 --> 01:41:52,320
we want to do testimony on every housing
bill.

1367
01:41:50,639 --> 01:41:57,679
» Sure. There must be so many
municipalities that have part-time CEOs

1368
01:41:54,880 --> 01:42:02,960
that are also in this vote. I I it
seemed to me that the piece of

1369
01:41:59,920 --> 01:42:08,960
legislation was had the intention of
easing a system through a very

1370
01:42:04,880 --> 01:42:13,199
complicated housing u field and but it
for small municipalities like us it had

1371
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:18,239
the consequent instead of actually
making it more difficult because we

1372
01:42:15,440 --> 01:42:22,800
would have to probably hire additional
amounts of Mike's time.

1373
01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:29,440
» Right. And one of the other questions
that we I think has come up is would it

1374
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:33,040
be more forceful, more powerful for both
select board and planning board to sign

1375
01:42:31,920 --> 01:42:37,360
it or
>> I think it would have to come from the

1376
01:42:34,239 --> 01:42:41,199
municipality, wouldn't it? I'm not sure.
>> I I think coming from the town of

1377
01:42:39,199 --> 01:42:46,159
Georgetown, I mean, that covers all of
us. I mean, right, we could have

1378
01:42:43,119 --> 01:42:49,840
multiple folks sign, but I from my
experience in Augusta, testimony is very

1379
01:42:48,719 --> 01:42:53,600
important.
It's more the meat of what's in there

1380
01:42:51,760 --> 01:42:56,639
than necessarily who's signing it. But
not to say that we can't add a signature

1381
01:42:55,840 --> 01:42:59,520
sheet.
>> It probably doesn't make a difference.

1382
01:42:58,400 --> 01:43:02,080
» I mean, I think we're all the same
municipality.

1383
01:43:00,320 --> 01:43:04,320
» I think the question was who will send
the email

1384
01:43:02,880 --> 01:43:08,639
» from what email will it be?
>> Well, the TA, I would imagine. Yeah,

1385
01:43:06,239 --> 01:43:11,600
» I can do that if we're comfortable. Um,
do we want

1386
01:43:10,159 --> 01:43:13,920
» I I mean, I'd like a little bit more
time. Okay. But Rufus, is there anything

1387
01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:16,800
you
>> Huh? We have a little more.

1388
01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:20,760
» Yeah. Right. Exactly. I thought you said
you had the time and I was like,

1389
01:43:21,199 --> 01:43:24,960
» we have gosh.
>> So, we have until next Friday,

1390
01:43:24,639 --> 01:43:30,320
» right?
>> Yeah. Right.

1391
01:43:27,040 --> 01:43:35,280
» So, does that mean we have to um have a
special meeting?

1392
01:43:32,080 --> 01:43:41,360
» No, we can make a motion tonight that
gives us enough uh discretion, give us a

1393
01:43:38,639 --> 01:43:47,360
a buffer to make to make a decision like
we've done sometimes on funding motions.

1394
01:43:44,480 --> 01:43:53,040
But I I do want to hear from Rufus. Um
Rufus, what uh what how do you want to

1395
01:43:50,400 --> 01:43:58,000
supplement your writing here? If there's
anything in specifically that you think

1396
01:43:55,119 --> 01:44:01,920
we need to pay attention to or make sure
we're comfortable with since it's the

1397
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:09,360
mun municipality that's going to be
delivering this.

1398
01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:16,320
» Um well, these are um important issues.
Um uh I'm not sure you know agencies in

1399
01:44:13,360 --> 01:44:24,239
my experiences are
somewhat reluctant to change things um

1400
01:44:20,960 --> 01:44:29,920
but they but they do on occasions and
for example the original

1401
01:44:27,840 --> 01:44:34,480
rule
contained

1402
01:44:31,840 --> 01:44:38,159
uh you know I I got in touch with the
administrative officer the officer and

1403
01:44:36,560 --> 01:44:42,239
the secretary of state dealing with
administrative rules and he was kind

1404
01:44:39,600 --> 01:44:49,119
enough to send me the the comment um
page um of the agency in response to the

1405
01:44:45,760 --> 01:44:51,440
original rule. It was like 70 pages. So,
>> wow.

1406
01:44:49,520 --> 01:44:57,440
» Um there were a lot of comments on the
original rule. U but interestingly, no

1407
01:44:54,880 --> 01:45:03,840
one has really focused on this one. This
has been on my alarm list for six months

1408
01:45:00,239 --> 01:45:12,480
and uh it it just a sleeper there. And
um I I' I've uh sort of raised a lot of

1409
01:45:08,639 --> 01:45:18,320
um I raised it with our um
representative um Allison and with Bob

1410
01:45:16,400 --> 01:45:24,560
and others and it and it's just it
hasn't received a lot of attention, but

1411
01:45:21,840 --> 01:45:29,040
it it could have a very serious impact
on on the town if it's read the wrong

1412
01:45:26,639 --> 01:45:35,440
way. I think we should be all right on
this and I'm hoping we'll get some

1413
01:45:31,040 --> 01:45:40,560
clarification, but I I don't see very
comfortable where we are and uh with the

1414
01:45:38,080 --> 01:45:45,280
town making these comments. I don't see
us um

1415
01:45:42,800 --> 01:45:50,719
um I don't see how this there's anything
in there that I would point to you that

1416
01:45:48,080 --> 01:45:58,320
um you should pay particular attention
to other than what what are you know

1417
01:45:55,600 --> 01:46:04,800
the comments that are made. So, um it
it's sort of a little bit um dancing uh

1418
01:46:02,480 --> 01:46:07,440
or counting the angels on top of a pen.
I mean,

1419
01:46:05,760 --> 01:46:13,600
» it's
um and it's a lot of sort of word

1420
01:46:09,600 --> 01:46:18,159
analysis and it sort of does get by by
necessity. You you get into

1421
01:46:16,480 --> 01:46:24,480
some legal ease because you really have
to. Um but in the end, we're just asking

1422
01:46:21,920 --> 01:46:28,560
for like on one issue, we we boil it
down to one word. just put one word in

1423
01:46:26,800 --> 01:46:33,199
there and that'll cover us. And the
other one was like five or six words. So

1424
01:46:31,199 --> 01:46:38,639
» what we're asking for is very modest
changes that would clarify this. Whether

1425
01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:42,400
whether they agree with that or not, I
don't know. And if they don't, you know,

1426
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:47,199
we
we'll have to look at it. If if we win

1427
01:46:44,239 --> 01:46:53,840
on the there are two issues here. And um
the um issue about solely because there

1428
01:46:50,719 --> 01:47:02,960
four or less uh dwelling units in a
structure. If if we um if we get that uh

1429
01:46:58,960 --> 01:47:08,000
agreement on that then um there wouldn't
be a huge impact on the second issue

1430
01:47:04,719 --> 01:47:13,440
even if we lost it because um if we're
only talking about multiple um ADUs and

1431
01:47:11,280 --> 01:47:20,000
and structures with multiple families,
there's just not that many. So if if we

1432
01:47:16,480 --> 01:47:26,880
had to if the CEO only did those two
issues, that wouldn't hurt us. Um, but

1433
01:47:24,320 --> 01:47:30,000
if if we couldn't do any single family,
then that would definitely be a huge

1434
01:47:28,880 --> 01:47:33,360
issue.
>> Yeah. Donna, go ahead.

1435
01:47:31,199 --> 01:47:37,360
» So, so in terms of a roadmap, would it
make sense if we get to the point of a

1436
01:47:35,040 --> 01:47:41,520
motion that we tacitly approve that
we're going to submit comments to this

1437
01:47:38,800 --> 01:47:45,440
and designate Arya and Rufus to touch
base to Wordsmith if anything had to be

1438
01:47:43,520 --> 01:47:49,600
changed.
>> That I'm comfortable with that, Rupus. I

1439
01:47:47,600 --> 01:47:54,320
can make myself available. I just had a
couple of tweaks to Words. I added a

1440
01:47:52,480 --> 01:47:59,440
word just because one sentence was
particularly dense. I really appreciate

1441
01:47:56,719 --> 01:48:05,440
how you made what I think is a lot more
of a dense topic uh straightforward

1442
01:48:03,440 --> 01:48:09,119
um so that somebody who doesn't have
legal training understands what the heck

1443
01:48:07,440 --> 01:48:13,920
you're talking about here. So I think
that goes a long way to still use common

1444
01:48:12,080 --> 01:48:19,520
sense and not let our education get in
the way of that. Right. Um so but um

1445
01:48:17,600 --> 01:48:22,400
yeah I think I'm comfortable with that
but it doesn't have to be me. It could

1446
01:48:20,880 --> 01:48:26,080
be one of y'all since you've both been
more involved in this than me.

1447
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:31,040
» I think it should be you because you're
the chair and coincidentally you're also

1448
01:48:28,400 --> 01:48:32,880
a lawyer. Um that's fine. I'm happy to
do that.

1449
01:48:31,520 --> 01:48:36,719
» I don't think it means much.
>> I don't either. I literally like it's

1450
01:48:34,800 --> 01:48:42,560
little tiny bits.
>> Yeah. But some days um it's going to be

1451
01:48:39,760 --> 01:48:49,199
easy. I would suggest that um once we
agree on any final tweaking that one

1452
01:48:45,760 --> 01:48:55,440
format would just be to have um Tyler as
as the um town manager send it an email

1453
01:48:53,360 --> 01:48:58,639
and say this is the town's position. I
mean I don't know that we need

1454
01:48:56,400 --> 01:49:01,040
signatures or anything else.
>> We can just get it in and

1455
01:48:59,840 --> 01:49:04,480
» Yeah. Yeah. I'm I'm comfortable with
that. I don't think we need a bunch of

1456
01:49:02,320 --> 01:49:08,480
signatures either, but I you know I can
go either way on that. And so I'd just

1457
01:49:06,560 --> 01:49:13,600
say we want to make sure any
conversations that need to happen happen

1458
01:49:10,400 --> 01:49:16,719
by the 17th at the drop deadad latest
because we want to get this off at the

1459
01:49:15,920 --> 01:49:19,679
top of the list
>> and we're going to see Rufus on I think

1460
01:49:18,080 --> 01:49:23,280
on Macahan that day anyway.
>> That's true.

1461
01:49:20,080 --> 01:49:29,040
» Yeah. I wanted to ask you Arya um uh
about that. I have a a golf cart on

1462
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:37,840
Mcmahan. Um and I go there every day uh
just about because of family. Um and I

1463
01:49:32,960 --> 01:49:42,400
would be I I would um I'm I'm obviously
very interested in it because I see

1464
01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:47,199
McMahan from the point of view that I've
spent my whole life on McMahan and now

1465
01:49:44,639 --> 01:49:51,840
and now many years from the Georgetown
mainland side. And if uh I didn't want

1466
01:49:50,000 --> 01:49:57,280
to interfere, but if I could be a
resource for you in that field trip, I

1467
01:49:54,800 --> 01:50:01,600
I'd be very happy to do that. So, um I
just wanted to ask your permission for

1468
01:49:59,280 --> 01:50:05,600
that because I I just don't want to butt
in on it. I know I have a right to do

1469
01:50:03,119 --> 01:50:08,960
it, but that's not what I I just want to
see if it you're comfortable with me

1470
01:50:07,119 --> 01:50:13,440
just tagging along and answering any
questions I could or

1471
01:50:10,480 --> 01:50:17,360
» I I would defer just to the president of
Sheepkott Island Company and Chris. I'm

1472
01:50:15,920 --> 01:50:21,199
sure they could accommodate, especially
if you've got a golf cart. We might need

1473
01:50:18,880 --> 01:50:25,040
an extra seat, too. And you've got lived
experience. But given that the invite

1474
01:50:23,440 --> 01:50:27,600
came from them, I just want to make sure
they're comfortable because

1475
01:50:26,719 --> 01:50:29,920
» Sure.
>> Yep.

1476
01:50:28,159 --> 01:50:35,760
» No, that's fine. So, if someone could
get back to me and say or um let me know

1477
01:50:33,119 --> 01:50:42,320
if if they think that is all right. I
mean, I I'm not trying to introduce

1478
01:50:38,639 --> 01:50:48,000
myself into conversations, but um
because I have a continuing

1479
01:50:44,880 --> 01:50:52,719
uh presence in town and interest in
these issues, uh it would be nice for me

1480
01:50:50,159 --> 01:50:57,280
to hear what what kind of conversations
take place.

1481
01:50:54,000 --> 01:51:02,639
» Okay. Thank you. And so, uh and we'll
getting back to this memo. Um, you and I

1482
01:50:59,600 --> 01:51:06,639
will coordinate offline, Rufus. Okay.
Just talk through these couple of little

1483
01:51:04,320 --> 01:51:11,520
things. And you may say, "Nope, I I had
a specific reason for using that word."

1484
01:51:09,119 --> 01:51:14,560
Um, and so that's what I wanted to to
talk to you about because again, it's

1485
01:51:13,119 --> 01:51:18,639
very very minor.
>> Yep. That's fine. That's great. I'm

1486
01:51:16,239 --> 01:51:24,239
available. Just shoot me an email.
>> Yep. Same same. And then we'll uh round

1487
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:26,080
up with you, Tyler, by the 17th. I'd
like to just do it sooner.

1488
01:51:25,520 --> 01:51:30,880
» Amen.
>> Yeah. So, I don't like to go too close

1489
01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:35,520
to a deadline like that. So, um Rufus,
you know how to reach me if you're

1490
01:51:32,320 --> 01:51:39,119
feeling nervous about the time, but I've
got it in my uh calendar.

1491
01:51:37,599 --> 01:51:43,199
» I don't know. I don't know. I was
telling Tommy tonight, I don't know how

1492
01:51:40,719 --> 01:51:47,360
you guys do it. I just don't. But I
understand.

1493
01:51:44,400 --> 01:51:51,840
» Yeah, we got it. We We have We got you.
All right. Um so, uh let's let's frame

1494
01:51:50,480 --> 01:51:54,000
up a motion. Anything else you want to
share with us, Rufus, about this

1495
01:51:53,119 --> 01:51:57,280
process?
>> Nope. Okay. I'm good. Anyone else on the

1496
01:51:56,960 --> 01:52:01,360
planning?
>> And anyone else on the planning board?

1497
01:51:59,599 --> 01:52:07,440
» I apprec we appreciate that all of y'all
are here.

1498
01:52:03,599 --> 01:52:09,760
» I'd like to be kept in loop if there are
any changes made.

1499
01:52:08,880 --> 01:52:12,480
» Yeah. Yeah.
>> Before it goes out.

1500
01:52:11,840 --> 01:52:18,239
» Me too.
>> Yeah. I mean literally. Yeah. It's it's

1501
01:52:14,719 --> 01:52:23,199
very smooth. I did attract changes. Um
just for ease of reading is really I

1502
01:52:20,239 --> 01:52:28,719
guess what I should say is mine. Um all
right. So then

1503
01:52:26,239 --> 01:52:33,119
Tyler, what kind of motion do you think?
>> Possibly a motion to submit public

1504
01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:37,199
comment for the agency rule making on
the proposed housing rule to be

1505
01:52:35,679 --> 01:52:38,719
submitted by
>> Yeah.

1506
01:52:37,440 --> 01:52:41,599
» the 17th.
>> Yeah. Okay. And we'll just keep it that

1507
01:52:40,639 --> 01:52:43,119
general. All right.
>> So moved.

1508
01:52:42,480 --> 01:52:45,360
» Yeah.
>> Does that work? And I I'm happy to

1509
01:52:44,560 --> 01:52:48,400
second it.
>> Okay. Thank you, Tyler.

1510
01:52:47,599 --> 01:52:51,280
» All right.
>> All those in favor, it's unanimous.

1511
01:52:50,239 --> 01:52:56,080
» And that is unanimous.
>> Yeah. So, um, just to recap, we'll get

1512
01:52:53,599 --> 01:53:00,960
that, uh, review done. I'll talk offline
with Rufus. Um, we'll get that

1513
01:52:58,880 --> 01:53:06,639
coordinated, those final will be sent to
the planning board and, um, and then

1514
01:53:04,159 --> 01:53:15,199
we'll get that off of as our comments
to, um, in advance of the 18th deadline.

1515
01:53:11,760 --> 01:53:18,960
Okay, great. All right. And let me go
back to the agenda.

1516
01:53:17,040 --> 01:53:21,599
» I note that for items for signature,
there were no appointment certificates

1517
01:53:20,560 --> 01:53:26,000
tonight. That's kind of just a
placeholder language. We do have a

1518
01:53:23,920 --> 01:53:30,880
cemetery deed, two copies to be signed
later this evening, and then additional

1519
01:53:28,080 --> 01:53:34,719
copies of the working waterfront um
designation proclamation.

1520
01:53:32,480 --> 01:53:39,599
» All right. And now that returns us to
public comment at 8:28. Do we have any

1521
01:53:36,880 --> 01:53:44,920
public comment in the room? No. Okay.
And what about anybody who's joined us

1522
01:53:41,920 --> 01:53:44,920
online?

1523
01:53:45,920 --> 01:53:54,880
Okay. Well, thank you for coming and
staying for the two hours that we ran

1524
01:53:51,760 --> 01:54:00,000
tonight. And with that, pursuant to one
MRS section 4056E,

1525
01:53:57,840 --> 01:54:05,360
we're going to have our consultations
with town council. And immediately

1526
01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:12,159
thereafter, also pursuant to main
revised statute uh 1, section 4056A,

1527
01:54:09,440 --> 01:54:15,760
we're going to continue our conversation
with town council regarding personnel.

1528
01:54:14,159 --> 01:54:22,639
Thanks, Lisa.
and then we will very briefly um come

1529
01:54:19,280 --> 01:54:29,239
back on and and adjourn. So, thank you
all. If you could please sign off, we'll

1530
01:54:25,360 --> 01:54:29,239
see you around next time.

1531
01:54:30,080 --> 01:54:38,400
» Who is um it was a someone I didn't
recognize anywhere.

1532
01:54:36,719 --> 01:54:44,960
All right, we have concluded our
executive session and um we have now set

1533
01:54:42,639 --> 01:54:50,159
our next date for
uh the executive session board meeting

1534
01:54:48,080 --> 01:54:54,880
for October 6th.
>> Um in which we will be conducting

1535
01:54:52,560 --> 01:54:59,360
personnel business
and is there any other business to

1536
01:54:57,599 --> 01:55:01,920
conduct tonight?
>> Okay, with that I'll entertain a motion

1537
01:55:00,960 --> 01:55:06,239
to adjurnn.
>> I move we adjourn.

1538
01:55:03,040 --> 01:55:08,400
» I'll second that. All those in favor
9:30.