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protectors and environmental stewards of these lands and we join

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them in these responsibilities could either roll call please madam

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clerk

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thank you Medicare all members of council are present except

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councillor decent thank you I'm community announcements I know where

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we just enjoyed last week the last weekend ... the

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sudden fair was great to have it back it was

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well attended on a very very hot weekends are lots

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of activities I know a number of members of council

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attended to different events throughout the week and I know

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regional council grassy was busy ... volunteering at many different

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locations so just a great big thank you to to

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the job fair board of the directors

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the fair just doesn't happen all by itself it takes

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of those directors start planning I can guarantee it are

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starting to plan next year's fair already

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S. all the volunteers that help out and it was

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really great to to see it back you know the

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past two years of the pandemic not having the fair

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it just didn't seem like summer in Georgina without the

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sudden agricultural fair so well done to to them ...

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council civil did you wanna mention of the painted perch

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thank you through you madam merited morning everyone yes that

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painted purchase back this weekend on Saturday in the Jacksons

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point park at I believe it is the most sold

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out of all the the birch cut out so there

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should be a lot of really cool ... decorated persbericht

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... to look at I think they have over thirty

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vendors there there's gonna be music there so hopefully they

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have nice weather and ... if you have a chance

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to check it out perch festival glasses point park at

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on Saturday

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and members of council who also put is putting their

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perch and I know I've got mine the about to

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go in as anybody else the got and you can't

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use one from previous years

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aw well there's still time you've got today so if

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we finish our meeting early enough long is a pain

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to drive you can finish it up accounts receivable and

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then I've got councillor hurting throughout America little Birdy that

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members of council have until Saturday morning to do their

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perch all really all in all I was told today

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so maybe you got special dispensation so okay so you're

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you got till Saturday morning bright and early so anyway

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council Harding you had your hand up

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yes I came out of where I just wanted to

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mention that ... on the long weekend was the ...

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Angola

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our picnic and the lions car show mom this was

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the biggest event that we've had as far as for

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people and ... antique cars or silver two hundred cars

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I. anti cars over there are just such a whole

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memorabilia self I mean to and I agree that was

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a car lover that didn't get out market down for

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next year ... but yeah it was a fantastic event

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job what are pretty much without a hitch so ...

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there's a lot of parking issues and stuff and I

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think we're gonna remedy down for next year ... and

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all before too long in the next couple weeks so

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I just wanna thank people that were involved in

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... it was a great job that was done and

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... for the opening ceremonies it's nice to see you

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there and ... what not but I just thought I

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would mention that thank you thank you in and it's

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nice to see so many of the events coming back

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that so we haven't been able to have the last

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couple years and answer in the car show and it

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was it was packed so there is cars there and

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feed into the field was full of parking lots were

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full so well done to the lines will then to

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par for the picnic it's always a great event for

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families to get out enjoy some family fun together so

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well done to all the volunteers are there any other

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community announcements from members of council

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I don't see any other hands going up of introduction

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of addendum items Madame clerk I believe we do have

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thank you Madame error and just before I mentioned you

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done them I just wanted to mention that sat at

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the beginning of the meeting there was a slight technical

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issue and so the audio did not kick in until

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the roll call

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Mr the moment of meditation and so that helps me

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make there okay so ... do you wanted us to

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do the addendum and I will mention the two international

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we have an addendum today item twelve one D. aid

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we received additional correspondence from K. and Erin Raymond and

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item eighteen one DD are proposed or pending acquisition or

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disposition of lands by the municipality or local board for

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brokerage drive and not agenda has been posted on our

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website

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great thank you under the moment of meditation I did

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ask up from members of council to remember the family

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and friends of two individuals one being Fran Wheeler ...

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she was the wife of our long serving a regional

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councillor Danny Wheeler and she passed away a couple weeks

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ago and as I said to to know Fran was

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to love Fran and she was a very special person

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very warm hearted person and and she will be missed

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greatly by by your family and friends the other individual

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was a former town employee he's been had been retired

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for a number of years I can remember going his

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to his retirement probably thirty years ago any work for

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the town for about thirty years a person lands in

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the roads department his son Sunbury lance retired a couple

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years ago and I believe his daughter in law works

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for the town but again Percy worked with the town

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when the

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you know the roads were mostly

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gravel there wasn't a hard service payments it was you

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know it you went out you greater the roads on

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our on a regular basis and and certainly ... ...

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we appreciate the work that that Mr Linstead town during

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his tenure here with the town so both of those

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individuals were mentioned other under a moment of meditation ...

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let's see I need to and approval of the agenda

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as amended

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moved by councillor Fellini seconded by

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councillor Waddington nobody has a card today I just a

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little hands going up of all those in favor

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opposed to and that's carried of declarations of pecuniary interest

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and general nature there of

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regional council grassy

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thank you

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I will declare a conflict

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with respect to item G. H. in reports

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adult role bolster lexical region conservation authority ministry bachelors of

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arts are provided extreme the owners Carol and Robert Rossi

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however since integrity commissioner the council have ruled against our

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ownership I will declare call what so as not to

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correct hello

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so that's item twelve one G. NH correct just just

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clarifying yes okay great thank you for for that are

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there any other declarations of pecuniary interest

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not seen a hands going up I'll move on to

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adoption of the minutes of the council meeting held on

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June twenty second and the council meeting held on July

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thirteenth are there any questions or comments on those accounts

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receivable

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thank you through an American happy to move approval of

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those minutes but I did notice on page seven of

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the first set of minutes which is page fourteen of

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our agenda ... there's that title and it says town

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old when it should say town owned okay just a

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little table but it could be a big one so

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I mentioned it to take care of the lands and

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I'm sure they'll fix it okay wanted to mention that

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great in your moving the adoption of those minutes moved

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by councillor Sabo seconded by

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councillor Harding all those in favor

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lows and that's carried on now we're into this section

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of the meeting for speakers and I believe we do

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have three different speakers that have registered today to speak

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on the first one is the Colin brown you'll be

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speaking on items twelve one G. N. H. S. T.

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in attendance at this time

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if you can on mute

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Madame part was good morning there is if if you

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can ... state your name and address for our records

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Mister brown and you do have five minutes and I

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would ask you to keep to the two reports that

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are the contents and and are the two reports twelve

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one G. and H. thank you

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very much about America Colin brown I'm from HHO law

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firm seventeen three sixty young street Newmarket Ontario welcome

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thank you I appreciate that are

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I have clients who received a letter

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last week or maybe with the week before sorry ...

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from the town our

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putting out that the town was interested in

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and whether these

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all in it with events although lake drive resident

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would be interesting and purchasing from the town lands between

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the lake and lake drive road should it choose to

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divest itself of these plans

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so I on behalf of my clients I wrote the

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town and honest ... could account clearly identify the road

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allowances relates to our clients property

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in particular and the shoreline in general

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once back from council for the town

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can I question

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that the town is not prepared to identify the road

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allowance for the property

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and I am suggesting that the reason the town is

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not prepared to do that look at the Cao can't

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do that

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... there is a process by which the town could

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established what the road allowance is within the boundaries action

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and it would that process would allow

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residents to

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receive notice of what the town

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after take appropriate steps to set out what the right

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amounts it

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and would allow them to object if you disagree

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and it would allow hearing to be had

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and if there is any disputes with the hearing they're

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going to pay off

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but ... and suggesting that the process that the town

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is implementation ... takes away all those procedural rights from

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the residents

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and as such is unfair

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so for instance I when this

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lake drive action plan with

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our first figure out

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... at the time the town with our under the

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the fight that it owns ninety percent or more of

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these properties

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and there's 400 residents are being asked you out

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now at 5 whether they

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we take a process where they which purchased our

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alliance with that that the town

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not even known it had been established it on

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that's unfair to these resident's account should establish its right

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first

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more than that there's not a promised any individual Robert

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Rick resident that it faded agree to a pretty standard

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process plus languages Wilson

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not clear at the end of the

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process the data 5 by the town

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the third step action plan sept 13 and 14

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the town is still going

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both the cards whether to are actually relinquish something which

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it had been established I don't at this point

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and at the same time a long history of where

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people are granted permits to maintain their they're both houses

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are doctor I can make small improvements and those the

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night ...

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because the town says you have to prove the on

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it

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where's the town hasn't proved any ownership interest at all

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in those circumstances we say it's unfair to upset a

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long established process

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and all these people to a standard that the town

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itself is not willing to accept

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and as I said earlier it is argued that the

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whole process was based on it an incorrect assumption

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I would actually own all these plans

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we're not more of them

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and despite the fact that that assumption now like I

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do not believe the town or or exploit equipped with

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call to action

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nonetheless are still following that same process

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so it's our position that that's unfairly prejudicial to the

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to the residents of the township follow the process and

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... and the boundaries act

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thank you

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thank you very much Mr brown are there any questions

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or comments to Mr brown at this time

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seeing none just a motion to receive those comments

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moved by

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accounts receivable seconded by

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councillor Leny Dennis in your hand up yes all those

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yeah I would assume regional council grassy are you declared

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a conflict on this or not I don't know I

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will say you voted I'll say don't worry about it

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that's it's all good ... so that that carries okay

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... thank you Mr brown I let you go now

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and next we have a

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Ashley and Adam much

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I let them come forward ... they're speaking on item

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number thirteen one V. and actually it is the letter

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and we go to pay the bills look here

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eight one ninety nine it is actually a letter from

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... from Ashley's in a petition so let's pull it

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forward and we'll we'll do the discussion after ...

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both Ashley and Adam speak so who wants to go

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first Ashley are you there are you both going to

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speak separately or is this sort of a combined

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not sure where they are they there Madame clerk

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they are able just be near me

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just be Ashley

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yes sorry Montemayor

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I'm out I know everybody it's a process so if

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you can state your name and it's full address you

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do have five minutes to speak to the item thirteen

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one B. and then what we'll do is we'll bring

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forward to ... that letter and asked staff to go

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over some of the issue they don't maybe have all

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the answers to your questions right now but I believe

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they do want to to mention a few things so

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I'll let you go ahead you have five minutes

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okay thank you so my name is Ashley much I

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live at forty four river ridge drive

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in Catholic L. four P. two and nine and so

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basically what I'm here to bring in I have more

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detailed records of all the efforts that I tried to

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me but are you do you have what justify Marie

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of one I reached out and one I've asked for

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help on behalf of other residents on river edge so

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basically it all began for timber twenty nineteen because we

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had just moved in in July and Paul Gary quickly

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how dangerous for Streeter is very narrow and winding you

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and there's little hills and blind spot and people need

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like recklessly down the street so in September twenty nineteen

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I first reached out to council about changes

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and asking for help with speed rushers in the town

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and again in December twenty nineteen and then again in

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July twenty twenty August twenty twenty September twenty twenty I

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reported to the York regional police about a road watch

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like issue over the meeting concerns and then by October

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twenty twenty I started an online petition which has over

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a hundred and seventy one people find and then again

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in November twenty twenty

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finally a road track was sent to the house

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so after a year of offering someone actually came to

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the help to do some data collection and the the

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diet there will be a complete report by February twenty

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twenty one and by need twenty twenty one I was

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following up asking about what speed reduction measures will be

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happening and we were informed that road rage with a

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possible site for the flexible bollards just waiting for a

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review and then by June twenty twenty one we were

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told that the studies were completed in some form of

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action will be taken and then by August twenty twenty

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one we were told that the request will still be

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kept moving show them by February twenty twenty two after

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nothing had been done I was following up and letting

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the note letting the town no it's still very dangerous

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on the street and we were then told that we

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would not be getting the flexible bollards but there would

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be consideration for additional traffic calming measures and starting stage

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one of the speeding precautions and then by April twenty

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twenty two I emailed out being the police again for

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more help and more police presence and then after nothing

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happened

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why are

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my neighbors if they would find a letter or a

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Patricia and I didn't realize that wasn't under the meniscal

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act ... I guess formality however they did find out

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later understanding diet we want change on the street and

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they were happy and wanted to welcome any sort of

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change so we are proposed

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the bond lowered speed limits on the street B. cameras

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any change would be welcome at that point that would

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help with any sort of speed reduction measures I submitted

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that to everyone in the town that I'd been speaking

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to along with the mayor and other members of council

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on July eleventh

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and then now I'm speaking accountable what I'm asking for

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change the street is one three I understand the petition

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does not follow the miss black however boulder the majority

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of the street are voicing along with me that we

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feel unsafe in our own neighborhood we don't even like

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walking down our street it is very scary there's no

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sidewalk people are speeding we to recklessly and I'm asking

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if anything can be done any measure would be appreciated

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but I've been up in terms of time between nineteen

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and nothing happened the one behind did not deter anybody

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at the people I spoke to one are doing the

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petition were upset but nothing more had been done so

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I'm wondering along with all the recommendations in the latter

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could our street potentially be considered a community safety zone

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could be get rumble strips could we get P. P.

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P. V. or you camera

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basically I'm I'm just asking for some sort of change

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to happen because it it's been about three years and

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it's not giving anything ...

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we do we just need help plan here okay no

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I understand

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I understand completely what you're what you're saying and and

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without roads and when I spoke with Mr Abbas he

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pointed out quite correctly that it's one of the few

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street that runs from the Queensway to Woodbine that has

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no ... there's no side street is no stop signs

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there's no school zones there's nothing to slow people down

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and and it is a bit of a wine the

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assignment turns and curves and hills so I'm going to

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let ... Mr Bossert come forward because they do have

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some ideas of something that they could put into place

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and perhaps we can do some suggestions for some other

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things that they could put in solid Mr Voss speak

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and ... hopefully we can get some ... some answers

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that challenge you will appreciate so hang on just Amalek

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Mr Bostic

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thank you

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excellent

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good morning about a bear members of council and the

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best much thanks for your for your notes there on

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the phone ... I feel like it's been awhile since

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two months okay so so

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we have a great summer so I

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yeah I guess in anticipation of having this discussion we

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just call kind of all of our records as related

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to beverage together to make sure that we have a

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full understanding of the actions that have taken place I'm

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from the town's perspective I just want to ensure residents

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that we we have a bit sitting idle on this

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for for close to three years ...

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shortly after at some of the concerns and complaints come

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forward we often do you traffic speed and volume studies

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to kind of validate some of the concerns from residents

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... any resting and whatever questions or speak volumes study

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I would typically conduct the speaking voice studies over a

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two week period to understand ... right and it's a

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normalized if there's you know events on weekends or our

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rainy Saturday you might not that big same expected volumes

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we did over to be

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um so the studies have been conducted that consistently I

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guess over the past couple years I didn't as far

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back as I said staff November tenth twenty twenty

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9/9/2020

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November fifth twenty twenty one and as late as June

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second twenty twenty two so pretty consistent in terms of

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... and it is and it's it's simply in a

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reaction to some of the concerns raised by residents

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I'm

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where with those speak volumes studies are we've also deployed

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the trailer at this month's had indicated ... which is

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kind of the instant feedback radar signs it's a large

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large trailers

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space and it also conducts speak volumes studies while it

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provides instant feedback to drivers of their speed so it's

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meant as kind of a quick reaction School from the

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town to

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try to assist with some of the speeding but also

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gain data at the same time

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so in in in all five with five separate several

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sets of data to kind of interpret in all five

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sets I think we've we've discussed the eighty fifth percentile

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many times it's it's kind of what we base ...

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traffic calming policy on it's the it's the normalized speed

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that a driver will driving I it's what's used in

431
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designing and engineering our roads as well as traffic calming

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our databases I so we know 5 instances

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... ... sense how was within the decide script roads

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means it wasn't within the twenty or twenty percent

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of the of the posted speed limit the highest being

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out forty eight Congress Grauer

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in two of the studs so there is right on

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the cost of what we consider requiring you know traffic

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calming or something it's you to slow what work restricts

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drivers speeding

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over the speed limit by twenty percent and that's why

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this past spring be brought forward in the traffic yeah

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for spring at a traffic report to install some oversized

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forty longer in our signage as well as some durable

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marking so the door markings are four four height four

446
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foot by three foot ... markings that actually are on

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the road and their their ... sticks to the road

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... by torch and it's just it's an eight an

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additional visual measure that we thought okay it's it's set

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not sort out of the property doesn't meet the threshold

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for actually going to it step one condition however it's

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noted that there are some very excessive speeds through the

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day that we have there are some very excess excessive

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speeds and understanding it is eight eight million Kirby road

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... thought that says some of the very soft changes

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such as oversized signage and and from the community support

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it's clear that there there should be something done here

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however going by the policy buyer information we have at

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our fingertips it doesn't really

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I guess justified to install some of the permanent fixtures

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SO zero traffic calming including the bollards

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just on the bowlers specifically we did look back and

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in the records and ...

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it seemed like there was some some email communication back

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and forth what whether it was accurate or not it's

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time

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it didn't in indicating that was on a list or

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was not a list it was on a list at

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one time when we first reached out to members of

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council at the initial pilot stage and asked for a

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short list of locations that would be ideal candidates from

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their perspective

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following that but we did all the studies and kind

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of validated what actually require traffic what did so there's

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been quite a bit of work ... or or or

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back when it is study outside of beverage that being

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said it doesn't you don't meet the policy requirements for

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adding any statistical changes are physical barriers ... just one

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other statistic I guess is ... on the speed over

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so we we look at aggregate data and analyze data

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but we also want understand like what percentage of people

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are you know over the speed limit over fifty year

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over sixty dollars an hour

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just to give you a perspective in the most recent

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study other was fifty drivers out of nine thousand that

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drove over sixty commerce in our speech study it cheap

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so it's half of one percent of the total drivers

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and just to give perspective what we we never to

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sign or react to the half percent wheat we always

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design and reacts to the majority or the not the

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eighty six percent

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so that's just just to give some perspective on

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if if we if we react and I guess it

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in in a sense of a half percent we'd be

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putting a lot of devices everywhere ... and that's why

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we use aggregate data that's why we do speak volumes

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studies

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all over town all all the time they're always deployed

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fifty two weeks a year they're deployed to get good

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data so we can make good informed decisions

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I guess where that we're that we're doing is that

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we we were asked to our base for

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if you are speed hawk trial say it came from

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city streets committee I want to council and as been

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directed the staff to review that we're we're planning on

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coming back on September twenty eighth I think it's the

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twenty eight the last meeting in September fourteenth wanted to

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... and we're coming back in it reviving a summary

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... it is eight eight eight true pilot program we

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were starting up three and post speeds or reinstall the

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speed humps ... if it is council's direction we could

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include river edge given the committees or

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right right just part of that pilot program but out

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but I'll leave that decision up to council we

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thanks Mr austenite and I know ... you know when

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we have to have policies to to put parameters around

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many of our our programs and and services so I

518
00:31:17,956 --> 00:31:21,196
get it that it may not reach the threshold but

519
00:31:21,196 --> 00:31:24,616
as as we've all indicated it is a a narrow

520
00:31:24,616 --> 00:31:28,056
winding road and there is nothing on that road that

521
00:31:28,056 --> 00:31:31,556
is slowing people down like we've discussed there's no schools

522
00:31:31,556 --> 00:31:34,846
own there's no side streets that commandos or other stop

523
00:31:34,846 --> 00:31:37,046
signs there's nothing so

524
00:31:37,046 --> 00:31:39,596
it it does become you know a bit of a

525
00:31:39,636 --> 00:31:42,836
of a faster route at times for some people and

526
00:31:42,836 --> 00:31:45,926
and not for everyone but but certainly ... you know

527
00:31:46,166 --> 00:31:48,936
some of the speeds as you mentioned are are excessive

528
00:31:48,966 --> 00:31:53,176
even if the rest are within that eighty fifth percentile

529
00:31:53,606 --> 00:31:56,426
... certainly I would be ... in favor of including

530
00:31:56,426 --> 00:31:59,706
the average in the US the pilot project for the

531
00:31:59,706 --> 00:32:02,886
speed humps and I guess we'll get more details at

532
00:32:02,886 --> 00:32:05,466
that meeting but can you just give us an idea

533
00:32:05,496 --> 00:32:09,196
when that pilot project would start ... just over the

534
00:32:09,196 --> 00:32:12,636
residents on river edge would know if it's included when

535
00:32:12,636 --> 00:32:15,746
would they be looking to see a speed hump go

536
00:32:15,746 --> 00:32:17,736
on to the road isn't this fall or is it

537
00:32:17,776 --> 00:32:20,556
next spring or what

538
00:32:20,556 --> 00:32:24,046
yes you Madame there I'd ideally we are installing one

539
00:32:24,046 --> 00:32:28,236
this fall at least the first location to be studied

540
00:32:28,376 --> 00:32:31,906
follow up by hopefully future locations in the spring provided

541
00:32:31,906 --> 00:32:36,646
everything works out the speed humps does differ then speed

542
00:32:36,646 --> 00:32:39,376
bumps speed tables that have been discussed in the past

543
00:32:39,376 --> 00:32:44,646
where you typically get some some by ... I guess

544
00:32:44,646 --> 00:32:48,436
I assume restricted feedback from emergency services whether that's ambulance

545
00:32:48,436 --> 00:32:53,296
or fire and in that side on our roads especially

546
00:32:53,656 --> 00:32:56,576
like river ridge where there is no there's nobody available

547
00:32:56,576 --> 00:32:59,566
by pass for that road specifically it's not a kind

548
00:32:59,566 --> 00:33:04,616
of a great hi subdivision ... it does speak that

549
00:33:04,856 --> 00:33:07,686
tables and speed bumps might be restricted in terms of

550
00:33:07,686 --> 00:33:10,876
their speed now speed humps have been proven to I'd

551
00:33:10,876 --> 00:33:13,936
not slow emergency vehicles not are focusing on those at

552
00:33:13,936 --> 00:33:15,986
this point they have a bit more of a gap

553
00:33:15,986 --> 00:33:19,586
in the battle that allows R. one one tire track

554
00:33:19,586 --> 00:33:23,216
to stay on flat ground at any one time

555
00:33:23,216 --> 00:33:26,546
... and ... yeah yeah it will be coming back

556
00:33:26,576 --> 00:33:29,196
it's a terrible some of the design graphics not something

557
00:33:29,196 --> 00:33:31,336
that would be focusing on

558
00:33:31,336 --> 00:33:34,626
and actually it also mentions like rumble strips is there

559
00:33:34,626 --> 00:33:38,766
anything to within our policy that we could any other

560
00:33:38,766 --> 00:33:41,356
thing if we if we're saying we can't do bollards

561
00:33:41,356 --> 00:33:43,536
which you know that's up to council of we wanted

562
00:33:43,536 --> 00:33:46,766
to say Riverhead should should get bollards week we can

563
00:33:46,766 --> 00:33:49,346
certainly do that and and that may be what we

564
00:33:49,346 --> 00:33:54,826
end up requesting certainly got program is nearing the end

565
00:33:54,826 --> 00:33:57,206
of the season at all we have any after ballers

566
00:33:57,206 --> 00:33:59,086
hanging around to be able to put up at this

567
00:33:59,086 --> 00:34:02,496
point ... but I would not be adverse especially in

568
00:34:02,526 --> 00:34:05,916
in an area that doesn't have any

569
00:34:05,916 --> 00:34:10,436
other mechanism that slowing the traffic down between Woodbine and

570
00:34:10,436 --> 00:34:12,266
the and the queen's way I I think we do

571
00:34:12,266 --> 00:34:15,476
owe it to the residents to do something ... whether

572
00:34:15,476 --> 00:34:18,976
that serve the public project for the speed hump and

573
00:34:18,976 --> 00:34:22,156
and see what that brings forward or whether we see

574
00:34:22,156 --> 00:34:26,866
about putting the you know sort of bollards in at

575
00:34:26,866 --> 00:34:29,976
some point along the river edge just to you know

576
00:34:30,216 --> 00:34:34,086
give some method of slowing down the ... the vehicles

577
00:34:34,086 --> 00:34:36,926
that tend to the few that that tend to speed

578
00:34:36,926 --> 00:34:38,756
along there and I get it we could put speed

579
00:34:38,756 --> 00:34:42,656
bollards everywhere and you know then they become you know

580
00:34:42,656 --> 00:34:45,626
... something that ... that they're not meant to I'm

581
00:34:45,626 --> 00:34:48,836
not meant to be so ...

582
00:34:48,836 --> 00:34:51,016
I think I saw regional council Rossi's hand up and

583
00:34:51,016 --> 00:34:53,456
then maybe at the end will will let Ashley ...

584
00:34:53,456 --> 00:34:55,716
make some other comments but I would certainly be supportive

585
00:34:55,716 --> 00:34:56,906
of us

586
00:34:56,906 --> 00:34:59,206
moving a river edge on to the the speed hump

587
00:34:59,206 --> 00:35:02,286
program and to see if we can put some some

588
00:35:02,286 --> 00:35:05,356
ballers out even if it's you know this late in

589
00:35:05,356 --> 00:35:09,166
the summer season better late than never so regional council

590
00:35:09,166 --> 00:35:10,376
rustic

591
00:35:10,376 --> 00:35:14,156
thank you Stross I don't know what you could answer

592
00:35:14,156 --> 00:35:17,906
this question sure what services all up with the Catholic

593
00:35:17,906 --> 00:35:22,376
secondary plan identified that there will be three roads that

594
00:35:22,376 --> 00:35:27,126
were thrown roads from the Queensway to what by as

595
00:35:27,126 --> 00:35:29,896
part of the secondary plan one would be closer to

596
00:35:29,896 --> 00:35:32,816
you second will be port

597
00:35:32,816 --> 00:35:35,316
the third would be dovetailed

598
00:35:35,316 --> 00:35:39,286
don't tell as everyone knows has had a spate but

599
00:35:39,286 --> 00:35:42,766
it's still close and I guess it's pending eight some

600
00:35:42,766 --> 00:35:46,406
sort of agreement so my first question is how quickly

601
00:35:46,406 --> 00:35:51,166
can we get dovetailed open supposed to be the matrix

602
00:35:51,166 --> 00:35:55,336
row road block but throat between the queen's way at

603
00:35:55,336 --> 00:35:57,776
what point out to you why is there a delay

604
00:35:57,906 --> 00:35:59,516
how quickly

605
00:35:59,516 --> 00:36:01,986
I have worked with

606
00:36:01,986 --> 00:36:04,036
it was

607
00:36:04,036 --> 00:36:05,566
yes are you Madame

608
00:36:05,566 --> 00:36:08,916
... advocate response across yet search you Mr lectures I

609
00:36:08,916 --> 00:36:11,266
believe that there is some about language in the subdivision

610
00:36:11,266 --> 00:36:12,746
agreement

611
00:36:12,746 --> 00:36:13,986
after

612
00:36:13,986 --> 00:36:17,166
I think all I ask right now gonna happy to

613
00:36:17,986 --> 00:36:21,586
address that question is a lot more details on the

614
00:36:21,586 --> 00:36:26,266
status of the development of the subdivision that's

615
00:36:26,266 --> 00:36:28,126
all their

616
00:36:28,126 --> 00:36:31,716
thank you through you madam mayor ... for don't deal

617
00:36:31,746 --> 00:36:35,506
there are still houses to be constructed of fronting onto

618
00:36:35,506 --> 00:36:38,746
dumbed down only access will be off of dovetailed so

619
00:36:38,746 --> 00:36:42,576
we don't want that construction ... traffic to be mixing

620
00:36:42,576 --> 00:36:46,096
up with the residential traffic so for that reason that's

621
00:36:46,096 --> 00:36:48,546
the delay for opening up the

622
00:36:48,546 --> 00:36:51,486
Dallek's tension as well as to still some above ground

623
00:36:51,486 --> 00:36:55,386
works that have to be completed ... on that engine

624
00:36:55,386 --> 00:36:59,306
so we expect that to be open by next year

625
00:36:59,306 --> 00:37:01,636
so just as a follow tip Mr letters at a

626
00:37:01,636 --> 00:37:05,116
stroke about we have lots of construction projects that are

627
00:37:05,116 --> 00:37:08,336
current the child this is a key electrics that we

628
00:37:08,336 --> 00:37:10,186
identified

629
00:37:10,186 --> 00:37:13,436
probably twenty five years ago is there a way we

630
00:37:13,436 --> 00:37:17,226
can have that opened at least to some degree we

631
00:37:17,226 --> 00:37:20,126
have lots of areas where there's construction going on the

632
00:37:20,126 --> 00:37:22,896
traffic out still aspects or wait

633
00:37:22,896 --> 00:37:25,576
it seems that it will it's it's just it's gonna

634
00:37:25,576 --> 00:37:27,816
be a continual delight why can't we at least get

635
00:37:27,816 --> 00:37:31,346
particle

636
00:37:31,346 --> 00:37:35,786
sorry I'm not American I'll ask Mr automatic to address

637
00:37:35,786 --> 00:37:39,066
that I know it's it's not an existing road St

638
00:37:39,066 --> 00:37:42,646
new roads so I don't know what the standard is

639
00:37:42,646 --> 00:37:44,716
and I think the concern is if you bring it

640
00:37:44,716 --> 00:37:48,206
to a standard for through traffic and the amount of

641
00:37:48,316 --> 00:37:51,906
the structure and will damage it but again Mr all

642
00:37:51,906 --> 00:37:54,476
gonna be used is there a way that we could

643
00:37:55,166 --> 00:37:58,886
facilitate maybe at top gold or I mean at a

644
00:37:58,886 --> 00:38:02,656
base coat of asphalt that still could be open to

645
00:38:02,656 --> 00:38:06,976
the public in some fashion ... or is this something

646
00:38:06,976 --> 00:38:11,286
that you strongly would recommend

647
00:38:11,286 --> 00:38:14,336
I I wouldn't recommend opening it because from a safety

648
00:38:14,336 --> 00:38:16,886
point of view it would be a concern the only

649
00:38:16,886 --> 00:38:19,626
access to those lots is going to be awful downstairs

650
00:38:19,626 --> 00:38:22,146
so when they're going to be building those houses there's

651
00:38:22,146 --> 00:38:25,226
going to be constantly construction traffic going in and out

652
00:38:25,476 --> 00:38:28,396
... and died all that truck traffic is going to

653
00:38:28,396 --> 00:38:31,136
be there so again from I think from a safety

654
00:38:31,136 --> 00:38:33,836
point of view we thought it was asked to delay

655
00:38:33,836 --> 00:38:36,356
opening that's as well as as they finish the above

656
00:38:36,356 --> 00:38:40,626
ground I'll works on DuckTales the other alternative is to

657
00:38:40,626 --> 00:38:44,776
possibly ... open up the road and then close it

658
00:38:44,976 --> 00:38:47,446
as they do the construction and then reopen it again

659
00:38:47,786 --> 00:38:50,926
so I think the best thing is to complete the

660
00:38:50,926 --> 00:38:53,916
construction of those homes and then open up that role

661
00:38:53,916 --> 00:38:56,616
just because we don't want to have all that you

662
00:38:56,616 --> 00:39:01,066
know construction traffic matching up with that residential traffic

663
00:39:01,066 --> 00:39:03,226
all gonna be based on what we've seen so far

664
00:39:03,496 --> 00:39:06,206
are you suggesting that that role could boast for at

665
00:39:06,206 --> 00:39:08,936
least another two years or three years the timing with

666
00:39:08,936 --> 00:39:12,236
respect to the developer what's seems to be pretty slow

667
00:39:12,476 --> 00:39:14,456
so it is there can you give us some sort

668
00:39:14,456 --> 00:39:17,346
of an idea for the residents that live there at

669
00:39:17,346 --> 00:39:20,446
for the rest of each travel east of west oak

670
00:39:20,446 --> 00:39:24,506
plant which was backed up major us wrote me some

671
00:39:24,506 --> 00:39:27,786
sort of a time for yes we expect that to

672
00:39:27,786 --> 00:39:30,766
be open by the end of next year

673
00:39:30,766 --> 00:39:35,886
so that's clearly an additional sixteen seventeen months where people

674
00:39:35,886 --> 00:39:38,246
drive by there knowing that there's a connection the cactus

675
00:39:38,246 --> 00:39:42,066
for

676
00:39:42,066 --> 00:39:43,096
so

677
00:39:43,096 --> 00:39:46,286
so I would respectfully suggest that we have to do

678
00:39:46,286 --> 00:39:50,906
something it puts a lot of pressure on other roads

679
00:39:50,906 --> 00:39:54,836
within the council area that shouldn't occur we should do

680
00:39:54,836 --> 00:39:57,296
everything in our power to make sure that the act

681
00:39:57,646 --> 00:40:02,236
that collector road major collector road gets opened up and

682
00:40:02,236 --> 00:40:05,016
that we do what we can to at least allow

683
00:40:05,016 --> 00:40:09,466
some traffic so it will soften River rich those two

684
00:40:09,466 --> 00:40:12,646
roads were never built well we just don't work on

685
00:40:13,096 --> 00:40:18,306
up on river glad we didn't urbanized both ends of

686
00:40:18,306 --> 00:40:22,176
that road because we want people to still issue and

687
00:40:22,176 --> 00:40:24,876
user as well as a local road not as a

688
00:40:24,876 --> 00:40:28,486
collector so it just seems to be sold long trying

689
00:40:28,486 --> 00:40:31,476
to get this opened up because it's been

690
00:40:31,476 --> 00:40:34,326
how long has it been since the discussion took place

691
00:40:34,326 --> 00:40:38,056
that don't deal is going to be a major collector

692
00:40:38,056 --> 00:40:40,926
it's been a long discussion

693
00:40:40,926 --> 00:40:43,326
you know it and again I think part of the

694
00:40:43,326 --> 00:40:47,556
reason is is that the town did not take on

695
00:40:47,556 --> 00:40:51,386
the job itself and paid for itself it wanted to

696
00:40:51,386 --> 00:40:56,196
ensure that the developer would pay for a pop good

697
00:40:56,196 --> 00:41:00,446
share that road so if the town I decided to

698
00:41:00,946 --> 00:41:04,066
try and or finance the development of eight four of

699
00:41:04,066 --> 00:41:07,426
the road got it here's our local from a financial

700
00:41:07,426 --> 00:41:11,136
perspective that wasn't the best option so there's a balancing

701
00:41:11,136 --> 00:41:15,366
act on the timing based on the developer and that

702
00:41:15,546 --> 00:41:18,036
what we see is is the completion of the road

703
00:41:18,036 --> 00:41:21,506
so that that's the issue that it's developer driven more

704
00:41:21,506 --> 00:41:23,706
than town Grogan

705
00:41:23,706 --> 00:41:27,206
well again to Mr all gonna happy just on the

706
00:41:27,206 --> 00:41:30,506
idea of having the road open

707
00:41:30,506 --> 00:41:33,196
for a period of time thanks closing at while the

708
00:41:33,196 --> 00:41:35,506
construction happens

709
00:41:35,506 --> 00:41:36,596


710
00:41:36,596 --> 00:41:39,146
yes is that and I can maybe to council is

711
00:41:39,146 --> 00:41:43,596
that something you'd like us to explore

712
00:41:43,596 --> 00:41:47,266
well so if you're asking me anything that would move

713
00:41:47,266 --> 00:41:51,976
traffic East West I think there's a positive and when

714
00:41:51,976 --> 00:41:54,816
you say open up and close it I'm sure it

715
00:41:54,896 --> 00:41:59,556
was ... construction traffic because it happens on every other

716
00:41:59,556 --> 00:42:02,696
road in the town of Georgian ... whether crystal structure

717
00:42:03,296 --> 00:42:05,836
you can call us on it after a trip basis

718
00:42:06,186 --> 00:42:09,056
yeah there's lots of different medications that you could do

719
00:42:09,216 --> 00:42:12,176
you don't just stop up close the road because you're

720
00:42:12,176 --> 00:42:16,676
building three houses your your make accommodations so that people

721
00:42:16,676 --> 00:42:20,516
can book yes there was a construction worker I'm not

722
00:42:20,596 --> 00:42:23,036
I don't understand why you would have to be closed

723
00:42:23,036 --> 00:42:25,086
completely you're construction

724
00:42:25,086 --> 00:42:26,436
yeah

725
00:42:26,436 --> 00:42:31,116
sorry about emergency response thank you ... yeah all you're

726
00:42:31,116 --> 00:42:34,896
right we can generate road as an example where it's

727
00:42:34,896 --> 00:42:37,546
been close but just straight trip but it's not the

728
00:42:37,546 --> 00:42:41,726
same volumes as well call traffic goes through so it's

729
00:42:41,726 --> 00:42:45,246
a little bit of a different situation given the that

730
00:42:45,246 --> 00:42:48,396
the traffic that would be going across there so the

731
00:42:48,396 --> 00:42:51,286
lawyers will be higher but to Mr all gonna be

732
00:42:51,286 --> 00:42:53,926
I I think yes if you can work with the

733
00:42:53,926 --> 00:42:59,526
developer to to make a plan that allows for construction

734
00:42:59,556 --> 00:43:02,746
and traffic that I think we should be looking at

735
00:43:02,746 --> 00:43:06,746
that and ... and to attract to alleviate concerns are

736
00:43:06,746 --> 00:43:08,236
expressed

737
00:43:08,236 --> 00:43:11,276
so if we can leave that with with you Mr

738
00:43:11,276 --> 00:43:13,726
lanterns Mr all gonna be ... to to try to

739
00:43:13,726 --> 00:43:16,536
come back to us or to you know work with

740
00:43:16,536 --> 00:43:19,216
a developer ... because I know I get asked on

741
00:43:19,216 --> 00:43:21,356
a regular basis as I'm sure other members of council

742
00:43:21,356 --> 00:43:23,766
do so if we can take a look at what

743
00:43:23,766 --> 00:43:25,686
can be done to speed that up I think that

744
00:43:25,686 --> 00:43:28,216
would be good which accounts across the final comment on

745
00:43:28,216 --> 00:43:30,786
can we get back to the

746
00:43:30,786 --> 00:43:35,416
so that's another question and so with respect to that

747
00:43:35,416 --> 00:43:39,526
Mister Rogers how could we use that for with respect

748
00:43:39,566 --> 00:43:43,976
to your suggestion Mr all gonna be working with the

749
00:43:43,976 --> 00:43:47,586
developers to make that happen

750
00:43:47,586 --> 00:43:50,356
three out of marriage like to sit down with Mr

751
00:43:50,356 --> 00:43:53,536
all gonna meet and discuss a little further that will

752
00:43:53,536 --> 00:43:56,926
bring the developer into the conversation I will attempt to

753
00:43:56,926 --> 00:43:58,776
come up with a plan

754
00:43:58,776 --> 00:44:01,986
and we can now keep council will once that happens

755
00:44:01,986 --> 00:44:04,206
we can't let council know

756
00:44:04,206 --> 00:44:05,846
I'll be sure to email I don't think we need

757
00:44:05,846 --> 00:44:08,516
a record no

758
00:44:08,516 --> 00:44:12,066
email and we'll figure out something

759
00:44:12,066 --> 00:44:14,316
thank you very much I appreciate that at the Mr

760
00:44:14,316 --> 00:44:18,276
Wallace is there any way that we can immediately sign

761
00:44:18,656 --> 00:44:22,286
I think we care both the river let regret just

762
00:44:22,286 --> 00:44:24,566
local traffic only

763
00:44:24,566 --> 00:44:27,876
do something idle accounts reflect on the city streets I'm

764
00:44:27,876 --> 00:44:31,946
not sure whether it needs to go there or whether

765
00:44:31,946 --> 00:44:34,726
we can just go ahead and do it ... crystal

766
00:44:34,726 --> 00:44:39,286
streets were intended for local traffic only anyways is there

767
00:44:39,286 --> 00:44:41,496
anyway or do we need to pass a bylaw or

768
00:44:41,556 --> 00:44:46,286
something that would identify those streets as being local traffic

769
00:44:46,286 --> 00:44:48,746
only which would at least I don't sign still made

770
00:44:48,746 --> 00:44:52,086
everything but least they would put something in place that

771
00:44:52,086 --> 00:44:55,886
would help identify what's respectable school street can I put

772
00:44:55,886 --> 00:44:58,946
local traffic only sign up now

773
00:44:58,946 --> 00:45:02,476
three men Ameritas search results across yet we would have

774
00:45:02,476 --> 00:45:06,736
to pass bylaw because their regulatory sites but

775
00:45:06,736 --> 00:45:09,296
we can definitely come back in and up to provide

776
00:45:09,296 --> 00:45:10,926
that as an option

777
00:45:10,926 --> 00:45:13,416
part of this program

778
00:45:13,416 --> 00:45:15,686
just to follow one last question as far as other

779
00:45:15,686 --> 00:45:19,896
mitigation measures that we can do it like I know

780
00:45:19,896 --> 00:45:23,246
there's been some discussed rumble strips at that speed also

781
00:45:23,246 --> 00:45:26,396
affects like that up is there anything else I mean

782
00:45:26,746 --> 00:45:29,816
it because of the fact that the streets were not

783
00:45:29,846 --> 00:45:32,626
kept and you know what all you gotta do is

784
00:45:32,626 --> 00:45:34,276
look at rivers one

785
00:45:34,276 --> 00:45:37,596
what's going to happen over there what's the construction on

786
00:45:37,596 --> 00:45:42,356
the east side what blind what's the proposed ...

787
00:45:42,356 --> 00:45:45,536
once on the north side RiverClan

788
00:45:45,536 --> 00:45:48,906
and the current conditions after about plaza I mean there's

789
00:45:48,906 --> 00:45:51,026
gotta be something we can

790
00:45:51,026 --> 00:45:54,166
so at least identify that something has to be done

791
00:45:54,166 --> 00:45:58,006
until Doug Steele gets open to provide that extra slippages

792
00:45:58,006 --> 00:46:00,406
or anything else that can be done I don't recall

793
00:46:00,406 --> 00:46:05,656
traffic it puts something else that identifies those street says

794
00:46:05,656 --> 00:46:10,796
being something other that's route restricts

795
00:46:10,796 --> 00:46:13,736
yes we met up there at every other that additional

796
00:46:13,736 --> 00:46:17,276
signage proceed to your earlier point

797
00:46:17,276 --> 00:46:20,436
it's it's likely at this point given the community support

798
00:46:20,466 --> 00:46:24,556
what about the data doesn't support that the policy decision

799
00:46:24,556 --> 00:46:28,246
but the community support is looking to require something that

800
00:46:28,246 --> 00:46:31,116
we would that we would need something

801
00:46:31,116 --> 00:46:35,026
is it cold in order to change the driver's behavior

802
00:46:35,466 --> 00:46:38,696
... and so what what we have in place today

803
00:46:38,696 --> 00:46:42,306
is just oversight sites such kind of like the softest

804
00:46:42,336 --> 00:46:44,396
step one we can do that we don't have the

805
00:46:44,396 --> 00:46:47,656
support from the five studies that we've done on that

806
00:46:47,656 --> 00:46:52,186
section of road ... beyond that I believe our our

807
00:46:52,216 --> 00:46:55,816
our engineering tax indicated that there is a durable markings

808
00:46:55,816 --> 00:46:58,886
will be in place by the end of August

809
00:46:58,886 --> 00:47:03,046
he received the week of August twentieth twenty second so

810
00:47:03,046 --> 00:47:06,136
those should also assess because again it's another visual deterrent

811
00:47:06,136 --> 00:47:08,516
but it's different than a sign on the road it

812
00:47:08,516 --> 00:47:11,896
will definitely catch more attention than a regular you know

813
00:47:11,896 --> 00:47:14,296
another sign and we see it we see a lake

814
00:47:14,296 --> 00:47:17,676
drive we see actually on regrets required to submit a

815
00:47:17,676 --> 00:47:21,636
sign there's there's so many signs that you end up

816
00:47:21,826 --> 00:47:24,636
... you know adding another one like that is not

817
00:47:24,636 --> 00:47:28,456
gonna have a huge or dramatic impact drivers behavior so

818
00:47:28,816 --> 00:47:31,226
that we do have to look at alternatives I think

819
00:47:31,606 --> 00:47:34,916
you said these terrible markets will be the first Houston

820
00:47:34,916 --> 00:47:37,866
Georgie on out on the roads if you drive on

821
00:47:37,866 --> 00:47:41,296
Wharton it's like we see that the fifty kilometer per

822
00:47:41,296 --> 00:47:43,786
hour markings or in

823
00:47:43,786 --> 00:47:46,516
ranging yeah rates you

824
00:47:46,516 --> 00:47:48,826
so to be similar markings but I'm town a town

825
00:47:48,826 --> 00:47:51,206
owned roads this will be the first of its kind

826
00:47:51,206 --> 00:47:53,156
so we're we're gonna try and we're going to study

827
00:47:53,156 --> 00:47:57,266
it and see that hopefully see some some some better

828
00:47:57,266 --> 00:48:00,006
results than what we're seeing today so at the appropriate

829
00:48:00,006 --> 00:48:02,926
time better products motion the

830
00:48:02,926 --> 00:48:07,246
how are works department strip strip lost stalled local traffic

831
00:48:07,276 --> 00:48:11,616
over size local traffic only signs at both ends of

832
00:48:11,616 --> 00:48:15,646
this road as usual mitigation factor

833
00:48:15,646 --> 00:48:18,776
... we've got a smaller speakers coming up here ...

834
00:48:18,806 --> 00:48:21,836
we were good will come back to that suggestion a

835
00:48:21,836 --> 00:48:25,506
motion just before at the counter fleet accounts or Washington

836
00:48:25,866 --> 00:48:29,026
... the request was or the mention was made by

837
00:48:29,266 --> 00:48:32,466
this much that to ...

838
00:48:32,466 --> 00:48:35,636
a community safety zone and I don't know if that

839
00:48:35,636 --> 00:48:38,976
is something that can be looked at further I don't

840
00:48:38,976 --> 00:48:42,736
know if the studies warrant from the community safety zone

841
00:48:42,736 --> 00:48:44,006
because

842
00:48:44,006 --> 00:48:47,486
you can make a community savings opportunity enforcement than to

843
00:48:47,766 --> 00:48:50,686
you know put the the ticket to the to the

844
00:48:50,686 --> 00:48:54,826
driver that's a higher rate is and is that something

845
00:48:54,826 --> 00:48:57,506
that has been looked at in terms of community safety

846
00:48:57,506 --> 00:49:04,226
zone for river edge

847
00:49:04,226 --> 00:49:07,866
sorry Mr Boston yes sorry Medicare by my audio just

848
00:49:07,866 --> 00:49:10,676
cut right

849
00:49:10,676 --> 00:49:14,836
it's a difficulties but soon I guess yeah

850
00:49:14,836 --> 00:49:18,106
I I heard I heard the local traffic only use

851
00:49:18,436 --> 00:49:21,606
okay I was asking the for community safety zone if

852
00:49:21,606 --> 00:49:25,016
that was something that was possible to put on to

853
00:49:25,596 --> 00:49:28,406
read certainly knowing that a community safety zone on it's

854
00:49:28,406 --> 00:49:30,306
own doesn't you know put a sign up is another

855
00:49:30,306 --> 00:49:32,816
sign but it's it's the enforcement by wire P. to

856
00:49:32,816 --> 00:49:35,296
give that ticket to that's increased so is that something

857
00:49:35,296 --> 00:49:37,986
that's been locked out of order so does the data

858
00:49:37,986 --> 00:49:41,946
not supported community safety zone so the bathroom out of

859
00:49:41,946 --> 00:49:44,736
fear that the the typical day trip you steps out

860
00:49:44,736 --> 00:49:47,036
it's it's you know it as we've discussed many times

861
00:49:47,036 --> 00:49:50,956
... adjacent to parks community events spaces those types there

862
00:49:50,956 --> 00:49:54,606
so River blood doesn't really meet the criteria a community

863
00:49:54,606 --> 00:49:57,626
safety some personal personal schools for example that type of

864
00:49:57,626 --> 00:50:02,276
thing ... I believe I was sad I had a

865
00:50:02,276 --> 00:50:04,176
staff

866
00:50:04,176 --> 00:50:06,286
I just on a response back yet whether it was

867
00:50:06,286 --> 00:50:09,146
signed at six on at one point because I as

868
00:50:09,146 --> 00:50:12,306
of twenty fourteen it looks like it was but I'm

869
00:50:12,306 --> 00:50:15,506
not sure it's it's still scientists community safety song that's

870
00:50:15,506 --> 00:50:19,056
what someone topic somebody else look at that however

871
00:50:19,056 --> 00:50:22,896
from from what we would look at Florida doesn't really

872
00:50:22,896 --> 00:50:26,736
meet the requirements however it's it's always council's decision to

873
00:50:26,736 --> 00:50:29,806
... to pass a by law to make the community

874
00:50:29,806 --> 00:50:33,266
safety zone and it it it it I don't think

875
00:50:33,266 --> 00:50:35,066
it ever hurts

876
00:50:35,066 --> 00:50:38,496
wouldn't meet the typical criteria you six and we need

877
00:50:38,496 --> 00:50:41,986
to be foresight as you might need them horsemen are

878
00:50:41,986 --> 00:50:45,526
cancer Fellini you had your hand up

879
00:50:45,526 --> 00:50:48,156
good morning everybody just a couple of comments if I

880
00:50:48,156 --> 00:50:50,066
could please

881
00:50:50,066 --> 00:50:54,186
yesterday I had the pleasure of driving up North York

882
00:50:54,186 --> 00:50:55,996
what it also

883
00:50:55,996 --> 00:50:59,206
four wanna kill Street I went to ... southbound on

884
00:50:59,206 --> 00:51:03,046
geo as it turned right onto rustic

885
00:51:03,046 --> 00:51:04,766
I think

886
00:51:04,766 --> 00:51:08,016
to my surprise there was speed humps all the way

887
00:51:08,016 --> 00:51:10,506
down that road which was awesome because you could see

888
00:51:10,506 --> 00:51:13,426
that people are actually slowing down

889
00:51:13,426 --> 00:51:17,026
the speed limit on that road Mr clubbers sign was

890
00:51:17,026 --> 00:51:21,086
up saying three six sorts struck asri sleep so it

891
00:51:21,086 --> 00:51:24,526
was it was awesome this year so have you done

892
00:51:24,526 --> 00:51:27,136
that but forty my date went long longer than I

893
00:51:27,136 --> 00:51:29,916
had expected study get chance less than two up ask

894
00:51:29,916 --> 00:51:32,546
the questions that I want to us and I will

895
00:51:32,546 --> 00:51:35,046
take this offline ask questions

896
00:51:35,046 --> 00:51:37,646
but again why could we not put some the speed

897
00:51:37,646 --> 00:51:40,766
humps at one not on river edge I think we

898
00:51:40,766 --> 00:51:43,456
should know what they're doing the the pilot projects are

899
00:51:43,456 --> 00:51:47,456
written us to have average included with that and and

900
00:51:47,456 --> 00:51:49,916
gather the data and and see as as if you

901
00:51:49,916 --> 00:51:53,816
suggest that your experience that it can help and I

902
00:51:53,816 --> 00:51:56,986
I believe it would ... we just need to get

903
00:51:56,986 --> 00:51:59,946
it included in the ... the pilot project and that's

904
00:52:00,246 --> 00:52:04,726
really of comments thank you so much okay I'll councillor

905
00:52:04,726 --> 00:52:08,236
Washington I know you're involved on the safe streets so

906
00:52:08,416 --> 00:52:11,266
I'm sure you have some comments or questions

907
00:52:11,266 --> 00:52:13,936
through you ... first with a a with a comment

908
00:52:13,936 --> 00:52:15,646
... this the street to come up a number of

909
00:52:15,646 --> 00:52:18,986
times with the S. A. streets committee I actually think

910
00:52:18,986 --> 00:52:22,446
it was myself who originally proposed that it be reviewed

911
00:52:22,446 --> 00:52:25,966
for a for bollards however Mr boss ... and the

912
00:52:25,966 --> 00:52:28,226
... that the members of staff that were on the

913
00:52:28,226 --> 00:52:30,906
committee before him ...

914
00:52:30,906 --> 00:52:33,086
you know clearly went through to the studies and the

915
00:52:33,086 --> 00:52:35,516
data shows that

916
00:52:35,516 --> 00:52:36,636


917
00:52:36,636 --> 00:52:39,436
it's not quite as bad as what to people usually

918
00:52:39,436 --> 00:52:42,856
believe it to be as Mike mentioned only in fifty

919
00:52:42,856 --> 00:52:45,066
instances out of nine thousand I think is what you

920
00:52:45,066 --> 00:52:49,966
it said ... was was it actually ...

921
00:52:49,966 --> 00:52:51,976
really out there

922
00:52:51,976 --> 00:52:53,156
Mr Voss the that

923
00:52:53,156 --> 00:52:57,386
clearly shows that that that no action

924
00:52:57,386 --> 00:53:00,916
should be necessary however it's it's the will of council

925
00:53:00,916 --> 00:53:03,296
to implement ...

926
00:53:03,296 --> 00:53:06,616
you don't speed reduction measures and make make adjustments to

927
00:53:06,616 --> 00:53:09,336
the the road as or from what what what it

928
00:53:09,336 --> 00:53:14,576
was originally intended to ... to be driven at them

929
00:53:14,576 --> 00:53:19,316
hello this up to potentially anybody from

930
00:53:19,316 --> 00:53:22,476
our legal department that's on here

931
00:53:22,476 --> 00:53:24,386
does it

932
00:53:24,386 --> 00:53:28,926
potentially make us liable for something if we make a

933
00:53:28,926 --> 00:53:32,286
decision to change the traffic flow of a road that

934
00:53:32,286 --> 00:53:35,616
clearly shows or that the data clearly shows should not

935
00:53:35,616 --> 00:53:38,816
be addressed

936
00:53:38,816 --> 00:53:40,876
in terms of making it on a local road or

937
00:53:40,876 --> 00:53:43,056
community safety zone that type of thing put in speed

938
00:53:43,056 --> 00:53:46,446
bumps put in bollards out and stop signs making physical

939
00:53:46,446 --> 00:53:49,016
changes to the the traffic flow of the road when

940
00:53:49,096 --> 00:53:53,746
when data demonstrates and argues that it shouldn't be done

941
00:53:53,746 --> 00:53:57,226
I'm not sure who wants to answer that maybe then

942
00:53:57,226 --> 00:53:59,136
and if there's nobody on here to actually answer like

943
00:53:59,136 --> 00:54:03,806
I apologize not nervous about looking there is methadone

944
00:54:03,806 --> 00:54:07,756
... thanks matter matter ... through you to cancer Waddington

945
00:54:08,206 --> 00:54:10,316
...

946
00:54:10,316 --> 00:54:14,216
but I think the the most straightforward answer I can

947
00:54:14,216 --> 00:54:16,386
give to the question is

948
00:54:16,386 --> 00:54:19,126
we can be liable if we're negligent

949
00:54:19,126 --> 00:54:22,596
so if we

950
00:54:22,596 --> 00:54:24,756
make a change to the status of a road even

951
00:54:24,756 --> 00:54:28,516
though the data dozens order ...

952
00:54:28,516 --> 00:54:32,006
our liability would stem from perhaps going in the opposite

953
00:54:32,006 --> 00:54:37,266
direction it's we ... it took a step that

954
00:54:37,266 --> 00:54:39,676
you for instance raise the speed limit or something like

955
00:54:39,676 --> 00:54:43,666
that and someone got into an accident that that was

956
00:54:43,666 --> 00:54:46,726
reasonable to that step that would be something to be

957
00:54:46,726 --> 00:54:48,886
concerned about I think if we if we go in

958
00:54:48,886 --> 00:54:52,686
the opposite direction I'm not really seeing a practical sources

959
00:54:52,686 --> 00:54:58,346
liability to be honest with you ...

960
00:54:58,346 --> 00:55:00,696
again just to sum up we need to do something

961
00:55:00,696 --> 00:55:03,846
that is negligent not not something that

962
00:55:03,846 --> 00:55:06,086
doesn't go right by the book if you if you

963
00:55:06,086 --> 00:55:08,756
see the difference yeah I die ... ... like I

964
00:55:08,756 --> 00:55:12,016
really appreciate you you're making clarification out of ... or

965
00:55:12,016 --> 00:55:14,986
search you clarified this ...

966
00:55:14,986 --> 00:55:18,836
I uh appreciate that thank you ... with regards to

967
00:55:18,836 --> 00:55:21,856
answer not to to you anymore Mike ... or to

968
00:55:21,856 --> 00:55:24,536
at least the other mica Mr boss

969
00:55:24,536 --> 00:55:27,636
if the local traffic only science were to be installed

970
00:55:28,186 --> 00:55:30,636
...

971
00:55:30,636 --> 00:55:32,696
consider me a limit on this what is the intention

972
00:55:32,696 --> 00:55:37,286
of those signs were those sides

973
00:55:37,286 --> 00:55:39,636
about American also wanted to

974
00:55:39,636 --> 00:55:42,726
would just be a visual deterrent are possible or study

975
00:55:42,726 --> 00:55:47,696
important around it's actually worse so someone has to be

976
00:55:47,696 --> 00:55:50,296
there to enforce the local traffic

977
00:55:50,296 --> 00:55:53,306
sure enough up someone for snow ... obviously difficult but

978
00:55:53,306 --> 00:55:56,676
what are what are they enforcing ... if somebody lives

979
00:55:56,706 --> 00:55:58,976
two hundred meters away from this road are they considered

980
00:55:58,976 --> 00:56:01,686
local if somebody's going to the marina on that road

981
00:56:01,806 --> 00:56:05,166
are they considered local if somebody's just going from you

982
00:56:05,166 --> 00:56:08,376
know one side of the Queensway to what point is

983
00:56:08,376 --> 00:56:10,896
that considered local

984
00:56:10,896 --> 00:56:12,956
I I'm I'm curious what we're trying to enforce if

985
00:56:12,956 --> 00:56:16,086
we're gonna at those sites

986
00:56:16,086 --> 00:56:18,586
at three three about America's a lot and I I

987
00:56:18,586 --> 00:56:22,046
don't have the definition of the local traffic yes sign

988
00:56:22,046 --> 00:56:25,096
and I'd be happy to provide that feedback to you

989
00:56:25,586 --> 00:56:28,346
... however it would it would be another sign that

990
00:56:28,346 --> 00:56:33,096
would be a visual deterrent and to your point likely

991
00:56:33,136 --> 00:56:37,196
difficult to enforce spot someone turning down there could turn

992
00:56:37,196 --> 00:56:40,656
around if they see the sign that says local truck

993
00:56:40,656 --> 00:56:42,806
if there is no sign they would not know that

994
00:56:43,376 --> 00:56:47,206
the road is intended for local traffic alright so

995
00:56:47,206 --> 00:56:50,116
but that's the best answer

996
00:56:50,116 --> 00:56:53,346
thank you Mr Bossert pre should that with regards to

997
00:56:53,526 --> 00:56:59,636
... speed humps speed cushions pillows those kind of measures

998
00:56:59,636 --> 00:57:02,526
how frequently would you say that they're implemented on roads

999
00:57:02,526 --> 00:57:05,586
that have forty one or in our speed limits versus

1000
00:57:05,616 --> 00:57:08,186
as a councillor pleaded mentioned he witnessed the monarch on

1001
00:57:08,186 --> 00:57:09,696
a road that has a thirty one an hour speed

1002
00:57:09,696 --> 00:57:12,116
limit

1003
00:57:12,116 --> 00:57:15,516
about a bear council audit send out in our research

1004
00:57:15,516 --> 00:57:17,816
this past summer

1005
00:57:17,816 --> 00:57:20,756
already of the instances of speed humps have been placed

1006
00:57:20,756 --> 00:57:23,796
on out from our research forty and fifty Auburn our

1007
00:57:23,796 --> 00:57:28,356
roads and typically those that had a focus of

1008
00:57:28,356 --> 00:57:29,736
speed

1009
00:57:29,736 --> 00:57:34,846
excessive volumes speeders about

1010
00:57:34,846 --> 00:57:36,516
be at

1011
00:57:36,516 --> 00:57:38,866
in the cases that we are reading about sixty climbers

1012
00:57:38,866 --> 00:57:41,546
per hour so they were looking at a percentage greater

1013
00:57:41,546 --> 00:57:46,846
than acts of speeders over sixty commerce for our limits

1014
00:57:46,846 --> 00:57:50,416
so and that's where the speed humps it showed the

1015
00:57:50,416 --> 00:57:56,166
greatest potential for production is in the highest speeders ...

1016
00:57:56,686 --> 00:57:59,436
dropping that speed that naturally ... because those that are

1017
00:57:59,436 --> 00:58:02,066
traffic speed limit can't live to continue to travel speed

1018
00:58:02,066 --> 00:58:06,176
limit or close to it over the speed helps

1019
00:58:06,176 --> 00:58:08,676
amazing as Ross are really appreciate that that with regard

1020
00:58:08,676 --> 00:58:11,166
to this topic ... and as I mentioned it's it's

1021
00:58:11,166 --> 00:58:13,186
come up a lot on the ... the safe streets

1022
00:58:13,216 --> 00:58:16,796
I think it's ... I think it's ideal to try

1023
00:58:16,796 --> 00:58:19,906
the pilot ... or or add it to the to

1024
00:58:19,906 --> 00:58:23,266
the list ... for the a pilot program that we're

1025
00:58:23,266 --> 00:58:25,436
going to be going into I think it's got potential

1026
00:58:25,466 --> 00:58:28,246
and if it doesn't work well it's a pilot and

1027
00:58:28,246 --> 00:58:31,096
we can change your mind ... as for a community

1028
00:58:31,096 --> 00:58:33,746
safety zone we're sorry I was for local traffic only

1029
00:58:33,746 --> 00:58:35,046
signs

1030
00:58:35,046 --> 00:58:36,916
I'm

1031
00:58:36,916 --> 00:58:41,036
I'm not supportive of adding something that we either have

1032
00:58:41,036 --> 00:58:46,006
no ability to enforce or no real am as to

1033
00:58:46,006 --> 00:58:48,756
what we're trying to enforce ... so I I would

1034
00:58:48,756 --> 00:58:51,046
be supportive of the ...

1035
00:58:51,046 --> 00:58:54,046
the speed pillow cushion I can't bear with the with

1036
00:58:54,046 --> 00:58:58,456
the actual ... a term was ... however right I

1037
00:58:58,456 --> 00:59:02,006
don't know that the science we'll do what we're intended

1038
00:59:02,006 --> 00:59:04,156
for them to do

1039
00:59:04,156 --> 00:59:08,266
okay ... I cut council for any accounts receivable the

1040
00:59:08,666 --> 00:59:10,746
US and I I will just make one comment about

1041
00:59:11,066 --> 00:59:14,646
the local traffic signs I know we've had the requested

1042
00:59:14,646 --> 00:59:19,736
in in areas along the lake drive from residents that

1043
00:59:19,736 --> 00:59:23,536
don't want to cars going down the road some because

1044
00:59:23,536 --> 00:59:28,226
of trying to access the lake or access metro road

1045
00:59:28,226 --> 00:59:29,946
and we

1046
00:59:29,946 --> 00:59:32,536
okay because of what you just said in terms of

1047
00:59:33,026 --> 00:59:36,646
how do you enforce who's local ... what is a

1048
00:59:36,646 --> 00:59:38,286
local traffic

1049
00:59:38,286 --> 00:59:41,186
person I think the intent is just to try to

1050
00:59:41,186 --> 00:59:45,526
deter somebody maybe from out of town or not familiar

1051
00:59:45,526 --> 00:59:48,126
with the area and same old I shouldn't drive down

1052
00:59:48,126 --> 00:59:51,356
there I don't think that the a lot of the

1053
00:59:51,356 --> 00:59:54,156
local traffic that's going on that road is necessarily going

1054
00:59:54,156 --> 00:59:57,156
to stop going on that road for local traffic sign

1055
00:59:57,186 --> 00:59:59,516
so I'm I'm not I'm sort of on the fence

1056
00:59:59,516 --> 01:00:01,796
of the rest of council wants to to go with

1057
01:00:01,796 --> 01:00:05,366
local traffic signs ... I would prefer that we try

1058
01:00:05,366 --> 01:00:08,466
to do something maybe that to a little more concrete

1059
01:00:08,466 --> 01:00:11,736
in terms of actual having some

1060
01:00:11,736 --> 01:00:15,246
impact that we can measure ... and that has you

1061
01:00:15,246 --> 01:00:18,386
know like I said they're they're putting up some ballers

1062
01:00:18,386 --> 01:00:20,886
I'd rather see some ballers go up this this summer

1063
01:00:20,886 --> 01:00:23,606
and and get it on the the pilot project the

1064
01:00:23,606 --> 01:00:27,876
necessarily ... another sign that somebody may not even see

1065
01:00:27,876 --> 01:00:31,166
and may just choose to ignore because it's not enforced

1066
01:00:31,166 --> 01:00:32,736
L. 30

1067
01:00:32,736 --> 01:00:34,816
thank you through Medicare ... just something that I don't

1068
01:00:34,816 --> 01:00:37,276
believe has been mentioned as of yet is the program

1069
01:00:37,276 --> 01:00:39,696
that we have that we're we offer residents the opportunity

1070
01:00:39,696 --> 01:00:43,626
to requests ... cautioned watch out for children signs I

1071
01:00:43,626 --> 01:00:46,856
believe residents have an opportunity that they can they can

1072
01:00:47,166 --> 01:00:49,096
... pay for a portion of the cost of that

1073
01:00:49,096 --> 01:00:51,556
sign in and get them installed in the area near

1074
01:00:51,556 --> 01:00:53,966
their home where where they're concerned about speeding so I'm

1075
01:00:53,966 --> 01:00:57,666
just curious whether missed lunch hasn't requested a caution children

1076
01:00:57,666 --> 01:01:00,446
playing sign or whether Mr boss knows how many there

1077
01:01:00,446 --> 01:01:05,056
are on on the river as strive

1078
01:01:05,056 --> 01:01:07,946
Mr Abbas are there any other signs of that nature

1079
01:01:07,946 --> 01:01:11,086
up on river edge

1080
01:01:11,086 --> 01:01:13,476
I do not know at this time but would be

1081
01:01:13,476 --> 01:01:17,276
happy to find out okay

1082
01:01:17,276 --> 01:01:20,686
other questions or comments some regional council granted you want

1083
01:01:20,686 --> 01:01:23,496
to put your motion on the floor about the local

1084
01:01:23,496 --> 01:01:26,196
only signs or do you want yes sh sure I'll

1085
01:01:26,196 --> 01:01:29,116
just ask Mr Bosco

1086
01:01:29,116 --> 01:01:30,976
no I don't want to get to it what what

1087
01:01:30,976 --> 01:01:34,176
is site but ...

1088
01:01:34,176 --> 01:01:38,816
L. I. with six site says local traffic all the

1089
01:01:38,846 --> 01:01:42,616
would be much the same the science say or at

1090
01:01:42,616 --> 01:01:46,536
least identify there is a box at the road ahead

1091
01:01:47,206 --> 01:01:49,886
or there's a curve in the road and that you

1092
01:01:49,886 --> 01:01:54,306
should take whatever appropriate actions you're saying that roadway so

1093
01:01:54,766 --> 01:01:59,156
something that merely says ... you know local traffic only

1094
01:01:59,476 --> 01:02:03,396
would be a deterrent to someone would normally live in

1095
01:02:03,396 --> 01:02:07,846
that area no doubt role was a through road

1096
01:02:07,846 --> 01:02:11,336
and that road although we don't want to identify it

1097
01:02:11,366 --> 01:02:15,286
as a through route purpose other traffic from local traffic

1098
01:02:15,636 --> 01:02:18,636
it's up to them but I can't understand so could

1099
01:02:18,636 --> 01:02:21,616
you explain to me definition of what a site as

1100
01:02:21,616 --> 01:02:24,606
I guess we want to go over to that debate

1101
01:02:24,606 --> 01:02:27,376
does the sign mean that we're going to do the

1102
01:02:27,376 --> 01:02:30,896
enforcement with respect to that site or is it moral

1103
01:02:30,896 --> 01:02:34,606
science just to identify what's coming up on the road

1104
01:02:34,636 --> 01:02:36,946
or that it might be some sort of a deterrent

1105
01:02:37,386 --> 01:02:40,446
masking Mr boss and then I understood okay and then

1106
01:02:40,446 --> 01:02:42,426
I have cheap Jenkins that has put his hand up

1107
01:02:42,426 --> 01:02:45,216
so maybe Mr Abbas and then we can

1108
01:02:45,216 --> 01:02:47,236
I don't wanna forget to achieve Jenkins wants to make

1109
01:02:47,236 --> 01:02:48,736
sure

1110
01:02:48,736 --> 01:02:51,676
three about average across across the in terms of the

1111
01:02:52,146 --> 01:02:55,156
types of signs there's warning signs in regulatory science as

1112
01:02:55,156 --> 01:02:58,266
well as a separate condition side so the orange signs

1113
01:02:58,266 --> 01:03:01,396
for construction so

1114
01:03:01,396 --> 01:03:04,276
if you're asking for like the definition of a sign

1115
01:03:04,276 --> 01:03:06,466
it would be I guess at a visual a visual

1116
01:03:06,466 --> 01:03:11,916
aid to indicate the condition had

1117
01:03:11,916 --> 01:03:14,246
so it was a local traffic only meant to be

1118
01:03:14,246 --> 01:03:17,296
a deterrent to those that

1119
01:03:17,296 --> 01:03:22,166
dot building area or what well I try to attempt

1120
01:03:22,166 --> 01:03:26,256
to use that road ... other than

1121
01:03:26,256 --> 01:03:31,006
another major Searle for

1122
01:03:31,006 --> 01:03:33,026
yeah I would yes I would agree that it would

1123
01:03:33,026 --> 01:03:36,626
be a visual deterrent that someone would read that side

1124
01:03:36,626 --> 01:03:40,176
and understand that that road is meant for residential traffic

1125
01:03:40,866 --> 01:03:44,206
and doctor through trust great thanks so well that's All

1126
01:03:44,206 --> 01:03:46,796
I Want to do so okay corporate travel okay let

1127
01:03:46,796 --> 01:03:48,966
me get too cheap Jenkins I will come back to

1128
01:03:48,966 --> 01:03:52,346
... to you Cicek and

1129
01:03:52,346 --> 01:03:55,876
thank you thank you Madame mayor just a

1130
01:03:55,876 --> 01:04:00,156
Mr bosses is quite capable of looking after the interests

1131
01:04:00,156 --> 01:04:04,576
of farmers response but I felt I needed to mention

1132
01:04:04,576 --> 01:04:07,666
that ... sort of emergency services are not in favor

1133
01:04:07,666 --> 01:04:11,476
of some of speed bumps speed humps they do slow

1134
01:04:11,476 --> 01:04:15,846
us significantly want one speed hump or speed bump typically

1135
01:04:15,846 --> 01:04:18,076
will not slow down traffic all we've got to to

1136
01:04:18,076 --> 01:04:21,926
Mr foster to to speak more of if if needed

1137
01:04:21,926 --> 01:04:25,746
but we really and truly have to slower response vehicles

1138
01:04:25,746 --> 01:04:29,056
down almost to a stop to get over those those

1139
01:04:29,056 --> 01:04:33,326
house obviously response seconds count

1140
01:04:33,326 --> 01:04:35,656
a speed hump in slow us down anywhere from five

1141
01:04:35,656 --> 01:04:39,046
to ten seconds if you have numerous speed humps along

1142
01:04:39,046 --> 01:04:41,706
a roadway second slower response

1143
01:04:41,706 --> 01:04:45,506
and the inability to thirty seconds up to maybe possibly

1144
01:04:45,506 --> 01:04:47,956
a minute if there was a six or seven speed

1145
01:04:47,956 --> 01:04:50,796
up along that roadway so I just I don't know

1146
01:04:50,796 --> 01:04:55,286
Mr Bastable consider this in future discussions about fire services

1147
01:04:55,286 --> 01:04:58,026
need to be part of these discussions from a response

1148
01:04:58,026 --> 01:05:01,446
perspective I just want to make council where

1149
01:05:01,446 --> 01:05:05,446
thank you Jeff Jenkins ... okay so if we want

1150
01:05:05,446 --> 01:05:08,546
to um well let regional council grass you put forward

1151
01:05:09,176 --> 01:05:12,216
his motion but I think we need to separate out

1152
01:05:12,216 --> 01:05:14,756
because I can see there's some support for the local

1153
01:05:14,756 --> 01:05:18,206
only signs and some not ... Ashley did you have

1154
01:05:18,206 --> 01:05:21,356
any comments on on this discussion at this point I'll

1155
01:05:21,356 --> 01:05:23,676
give you a couple minutes just to

1156
01:05:23,676 --> 01:05:28,756
weigh in on young enough what I've heard

1157
01:05:28,756 --> 01:05:30,796
oh I'm sorry my dog in my on you did

1158
01:05:30,796 --> 01:05:32,796
not America yeah you run units okay we all have

1159
01:05:32,796 --> 01:05:35,716
dogs of ordering ranging happens

1160
01:05:35,716 --> 01:05:38,336
I know I'm sorry if that'll work from home but

1161
01:05:38,656 --> 01:05:41,926
I know what you just to follow up if I

1162
01:05:41,926 --> 01:05:45,726
could ... with respect to the data I love that

1163
01:05:46,136 --> 01:05:49,126
have been studied and I appreciate that very much but

1164
01:05:49,126 --> 01:05:51,906
maybe the three to jump on no matter what their

1165
01:05:51,906 --> 01:05:55,576
speed the interest when people go forty kilometers per hour

1166
01:05:55,986 --> 01:05:59,096
I no matter what the threshold is maybe it sounds

1167
01:05:59,096 --> 01:06:02,546
like the street is being overview so it sounds like

1168
01:06:02,546 --> 01:06:06,406
just from the the discussion that the street wasn't intended

1169
01:06:06,406 --> 01:06:09,076
to have this much traffic and with all the different

1170
01:06:09,076 --> 01:06:11,566
factors a truly a complete so when I say other

1171
01:06:11,566 --> 01:06:15,136
factors I mean the winding up of the road ...

1172
01:06:15,696 --> 01:06:19,926
happy reading to part B. the little hills and get

1173
01:06:19,986 --> 01:06:22,856
from the blind spot from all the trees if it

1174
01:06:22,856 --> 01:06:24,686
doesn't seem like it was intended to be a through

1175
01:06:24,686 --> 01:06:28,086
street art and and I know that it was said

1176
01:06:28,086 --> 01:06:30,906
that it's not really appropriate for our community if you

1177
01:06:30,906 --> 01:06:33,346
don't but it is the G. thirty two paths that

1178
01:06:33,346 --> 01:06:36,036
lead to parks and people are using them and it's

1179
01:06:36,036 --> 01:06:38,006
really hard to be coming in and out of bounds

1180
01:06:38,036 --> 01:06:41,086
and when people are going even if it is forty

1181
01:06:41,086 --> 01:06:44,896
eight corners per hour which is apparently in the threshold

1182
01:06:45,206 --> 01:06:48,106
that's just not street so whether it's forty eight or

1183
01:06:48,106 --> 01:06:50,546
thirty eight homers for our people don't feel safe they

1184
01:06:50,546 --> 01:06:53,966
don't drop the speech and I understand the speed humps

1185
01:06:53,966 --> 01:06:57,366
slow down like the flow down emergency services will have

1186
01:06:57,366 --> 01:07:01,996
you but I feel like I am I clear guide

1187
01:07:01,996 --> 01:07:05,196
me in the most respectful may wait talk book I

1188
01:07:05,196 --> 01:07:08,516
feel that the amount of time that people feel like

1189
01:07:08,516 --> 01:07:11,736
they're about you need an emergency service or get hit

1190
01:07:11,736 --> 01:07:14,336
by a vehicle on a road out we've coming behind

1191
01:07:14,366 --> 01:07:17,746
there are emergencies on the street ... and I understand

1192
01:07:17,746 --> 01:07:21,276
that everyone reacted out I'm hold what have you but

1193
01:07:21,276 --> 01:07:24,086
we do have people pleading for help with the majority

1194
01:07:24,086 --> 01:07:25,966
of the people on the street

1195
01:07:25,966 --> 01:07:28,366
saying that the concern with the speed and I know

1196
01:07:28,706 --> 01:07:32,626
that the forty eight quarters which is in a threshold

1197
01:07:32,626 --> 01:07:36,446
of whatever the street and are you in intended for

1198
01:07:36,836 --> 01:07:40,056
people are still asking for change so are you I'm

1199
01:07:40,056 --> 01:07:42,446
really happy with the work like the request of all

1200
01:07:42,446 --> 01:07:44,706
the people in the former or the speed hump height

1201
01:07:44,706 --> 01:07:47,486
would be implemented for we're branch and even if we

1202
01:07:47,486 --> 01:07:50,006
don't meet the data and the policy to what have

1203
01:07:50,006 --> 01:07:53,236
you I think we do a mixture of everything happening

1204
01:07:53,236 --> 01:07:55,976
on the street we would be a good contender to

1205
01:07:55,976 --> 01:07:59,446
be included with those programs so if we could be

1206
01:07:59,516 --> 01:08:03,206
that would be appreciated and really if we had additional

1207
01:08:03,206 --> 01:08:06,776
force but I don't know who can

1208
01:08:06,776 --> 01:08:09,806
sort of I'm gonna let me here of the police

1209
01:08:09,806 --> 01:08:11,876
or what have you because I have asked several times

1210
01:08:11,876 --> 01:08:14,016
for them to be more question on the street I

1211
01:08:14,016 --> 01:08:17,266
know word of mouth spreads and help and even though

1212
01:08:17,266 --> 01:08:21,296
find a local traffic only if you have an important

1213
01:08:21,296 --> 01:08:23,676
for a couple of the year you can have some

1214
01:08:23,956 --> 01:08:27,606
serious change it will change behavior we did have to

1215
01:08:27,606 --> 01:08:30,346
sort of implement something to have that we can get

1216
01:08:30,346 --> 01:08:34,176
changed thank you so much I made I appreciate everyone

1217
01:08:34,396 --> 01:08:36,886
so and all three someone could ask me if I

1218
01:08:36,886 --> 01:08:40,386
had ever on after one of those sorry for the

1219
01:08:40,386 --> 01:08:43,496
children but only a couple children

1220
01:08:43,496 --> 01:08:45,396
I bought my own because I didn't know that there

1221
01:08:45,396 --> 01:08:47,736
was something that you could do your for your help

1222
01:08:47,736 --> 01:08:49,466
with my long that I got at the dollar store

1223
01:08:49,466 --> 01:08:52,276
but I didn't know that there was such a thing

1224
01:08:52,326 --> 01:08:55,046
so thank you well we'll we'll check in not into

1225
01:08:55,046 --> 01:08:57,566
that because there are a bigger metal sign there a

1226
01:08:57,566 --> 01:09:00,716
town sign or not just the I mean we we

1227
01:09:00,846 --> 01:09:04,586
are program last year that you know slow down you

1228
01:09:04,586 --> 01:09:07,566
know the yellow signs that we did these are official

1229
01:09:07,566 --> 01:09:10,486
signs you know ... that the town puts up in

1230
01:09:10,486 --> 01:09:14,546
Mr Rossell will check into into that so I'm gonna

1231
01:09:14,546 --> 01:09:18,476
bring it back to council for discussion ... I know

1232
01:09:18,476 --> 01:09:20,506
we've missed but a lot of time on this so

1233
01:09:20,506 --> 01:09:23,516
we can try to condense down and get to the

1234
01:09:23,516 --> 01:09:27,496
point of moving for with some recommendations I think if

1235
01:09:27,496 --> 01:09:29,466
we can

1236
01:09:29,466 --> 01:09:32,686
break it down into a request to include river edge

1237
01:09:32,716 --> 01:09:36,876
and in the pilot project for for the speed humps

1238
01:09:37,226 --> 01:09:43,146
if we can request that the location be secured for

1239
01:09:43,176 --> 01:09:45,996
ballers to go in ... and I'm not sure if

1240
01:09:45,996 --> 01:09:47,256
you want to put it in the same time as

1241
01:09:47,256 --> 01:09:50,106
you're doing the the project for the speed humps because

1242
01:09:50,106 --> 01:09:52,646
you wanna try to measure the speed humps but all

1243
01:09:52,906 --> 01:09:55,096
I would suggest that if we have a a subtle

1244
01:09:55,096 --> 01:10:00,656
bollards ... available that we put those up this year

1245
01:10:00,656 --> 01:10:04,456
in a location that is the most effective for for

1246
01:10:04,456 --> 01:10:06,146
... for a

1247
01:10:06,146 --> 01:10:10,116
the baller program and ... certainly the other things that

1248
01:10:10,116 --> 01:10:15,936
are happening ... the oversight signs and the markings on

1249
01:10:15,936 --> 01:10:18,256
the road and markers on the road to help because

1250
01:10:18,256 --> 01:10:21,146
I know I'm from original point of view we've done

1251
01:10:21,146 --> 01:10:23,676
them on the regional couple regional roads and they they

1252
01:10:23,676 --> 01:10:25,926
do help it's a visual ... ... yeah it really

1253
01:10:25,926 --> 01:10:29,316
is slower here ... and then the separate the motion

1254
01:10:29,316 --> 01:10:32,716
would be regional council Grassley's request for the local only

1255
01:10:32,716 --> 01:10:35,486
sign so we can split them down into those three

1256
01:10:35,906 --> 01:10:39,326
... request and then we can vote on each of

1257
01:10:39,326 --> 01:10:42,786
those council Harding you had to comment

1258
01:10:42,786 --> 01:10:45,776
yes just a couple of comments but there

1259
01:10:45,776 --> 01:10:47,346
a quick

1260
01:10:47,346 --> 01:10:50,346
I have in the past so

1261
01:10:50,346 --> 01:10:55,996
few years ... what I've been a firefighter and we'd

1262
01:10:55,996 --> 01:10:58,676
be in the back of an ambulance dot CPR on

1263
01:10:58,676 --> 01:11:02,206
somebody and when you hit those bollards it's not good

1264
01:11:02,206 --> 01:11:05,526
for whoever you're working on special compression used you're not

1265
01:11:05,526 --> 01:11:08,066
hitting the bollards and speed bumps for me St box

1266
01:11:08,066 --> 01:11:11,336
I'm sorry yes I can Waller's you might hit the

1267
01:11:11,336 --> 01:11:14,076
ball I don't think you're gonna

1268
01:11:14,076 --> 01:11:16,786
forget your those but not all that the speed bumps

1269
01:11:16,786 --> 01:11:20,466
are are really something that that really are not good

1270
01:11:20,466 --> 01:11:21,966
for

1271
01:11:21,966 --> 01:11:25,906
number she services especially for ambulance ... so that's All

1272
01:11:25,906 --> 01:11:27,606
I Want to mention on that the other thing is

1273
01:11:27,606 --> 01:11:29,006
is the

1274
01:11:29,006 --> 01:11:32,776
our local traffic sign only by a license plate on

1275
01:11:32,986 --> 01:11:36,866
my vehicle says I have an Ontario plates ... so

1276
01:11:36,866 --> 01:11:39,156
that's not a legal sign it still means that you

1277
01:11:39,186 --> 01:11:43,306
can travel on that road that's my impression I don't

1278
01:11:43,306 --> 01:11:46,036
know if our lawyer has any other you know we

1279
01:11:46,036 --> 01:11:48,646
have a look at that but I don't know how

1280
01:11:48,956 --> 01:11:52,876
so it always is that science gonna mean anything or

1281
01:11:52,876 --> 01:11:55,756
not I know that road strips ... you know the

1282
01:11:56,226 --> 01:12:00,036
the tactile of their down on ... reason should there

1283
01:12:00,036 --> 01:12:03,446
by your door and it works fantastic

1284
01:12:03,446 --> 01:12:05,976
so if you see that you're on your break pretty

1285
01:12:05,976 --> 01:12:08,656
much so but that's that's all I wanted to mention

1286
01:12:09,086 --> 01:12:12,246
yeah and I don't know the globally signs you know

1287
01:12:12,246 --> 01:12:15,556
can be a deterrent for some people but I really

1288
01:12:15,556 --> 01:12:18,606
don't know how enforceable they would be I don't know

1289
01:12:18,606 --> 01:12:22,286
of a York region police officer would pull somebody over

1290
01:12:22,316 --> 01:12:25,366
and and check to see if they are a resident

1291
01:12:25,366 --> 01:12:28,756
and what's what's a local resident what's not a local

1292
01:12:28,756 --> 01:12:31,086
resident site I don't want to give the impression that

1293
01:12:31,086 --> 01:12:34,916
the local only signs would would be enforceable they're more

1294
01:12:35,346 --> 01:12:38,866
of a personal deterrent to somebody who says oh geez

1295
01:12:38,866 --> 01:12:41,796
I guess I shouldn't drive down that that street Tom

1296
01:12:41,886 --> 01:12:44,526
it's supposed to be for local traffic but

1297
01:12:44,526 --> 01:12:46,586
anyway Mr bought to do wanna make any comment on

1298
01:12:46,586 --> 01:12:51,186
council Harding's questions yes three Madame justice just to clarify

1299
01:12:51,186 --> 01:12:53,316
that so like

1300
01:12:53,316 --> 01:12:55,496
essentially the how we track record it is very broad

1301
01:12:55,496 --> 01:13:01,166
saying that ... we can attract signs that provides information

1302
01:13:01,346 --> 01:13:05,296
to drivers if you have a driver's license

1303
01:13:05,296 --> 01:13:09,476
so you have to abide by those sites separate section

1304
01:13:09,476 --> 01:13:13,046
of highway traffic that would indicate that any municipality or

1305
01:13:13,426 --> 01:13:17,056
older ... or rotis already essentially can can choose to

1306
01:13:17,056 --> 01:13:19,806
put those signs and asset bylaw to export to have

1307
01:13:20,186 --> 01:13:25,056
forced it's the practicality of forcing bad section I which

1308
01:13:25,056 --> 01:13:26,126
I

1309
01:13:26,126 --> 01:13:28,376
very very difficult but

1310
01:13:28,376 --> 01:13:32,236
could be a visual deterrent yeah no problem okay so

1311
01:13:32,236 --> 01:13:37,776
we've got some of the suggestions that we've discussed here

1312
01:13:37,776 --> 01:13:41,346
so if we can put on a motion together I

1313
01:13:41,346 --> 01:13:44,106
don't know councillor Fellini I'll let you do a couple

1314
01:13:44,106 --> 01:13:48,846
of them if you want to ... request that some

1315
01:13:48,846 --> 01:13:52,526
river edge being put into the pilot project for ...

1316
01:13:52,676 --> 01:13:57,196
the the speed humps and you also want to request

1317
01:13:57,196 --> 01:14:00,676
that if there are bowlers available or that they can

1318
01:14:00,676 --> 01:14:04,416
be secured in a timely manner that ... a location

1319
01:14:04,416 --> 01:14:08,016
be secured on river edge for the flexible bollards you

1320
01:14:08,016 --> 01:14:09,726
want to do those

1321
01:14:09,726 --> 01:14:14,626
and also ... perhaps a children at play signed ...

1322
01:14:14,626 --> 01:14:18,736
to go up there and she I'm not sure if

1323
01:14:18,736 --> 01:14:21,296
you want to check into anything about the community safety

1324
01:14:21,296 --> 01:14:23,606
zones because it is close to a park I'll leave

1325
01:14:23,606 --> 01:14:25,706
that to you but there's there's those three and if

1326
01:14:25,706 --> 01:14:28,986
you want at the fourth and then ... let regional

1327
01:14:28,986 --> 01:14:31,866
council grounds to do his about the local signs and

1328
01:14:31,866 --> 01:14:35,186
he brought that up on the on his discussions that

1329
01:14:35,186 --> 01:14:37,266
good what she wanted to

1330
01:14:37,266 --> 01:14:39,276
I would like to think about America would like to

1331
01:14:39,416 --> 01:14:42,296
do all three if I could please what I would

1332
01:14:42,296 --> 01:14:45,516
like to also matches that I think we have an

1333
01:14:45,516 --> 01:14:49,296
interest of bollards that have been removed at the ice

1334
01:14:49,296 --> 01:14:52,696
palace I'm not sure where but somewhere else but

1335
01:14:52,696 --> 01:14:54,646
we may have some bars that we are able to

1336
01:14:54,646 --> 01:14:57,006
use

1337
01:14:57,006 --> 01:15:00,616
yeah the only Mr Ross three three about America councillor

1338
01:15:00,616 --> 01:15:04,446
Quemby though those are moved in advance of construction work

1339
01:15:04,446 --> 01:15:08,666
spot on works so they're they're they're going back in

1340
01:15:08,796 --> 01:15:11,696
place at the end of the structure

1341
01:15:11,696 --> 01:15:14,956
so they're a concept that is opportunities short thank you

1342
01:15:15,586 --> 01:15:18,006
note while you're while you're passing out it's is that

1343
01:15:18,006 --> 01:15:20,576
the bollards do require a by law for not stopping

1344
01:15:20,576 --> 01:15:23,546
around the bowlers otherwise you could create an impossible right

1345
01:15:23,626 --> 01:15:25,846
so we would need a biologic yeah we have to

1346
01:15:25,846 --> 01:15:28,706
come back same for the local only signs we need

1347
01:15:28,706 --> 01:15:32,616
a a by law to come back ... so again

1348
01:15:32,616 --> 01:15:35,196
it's it's the start of this and maybe we could

1349
01:15:35,746 --> 01:15:39,856
also ask ... that further investigation on the community safety

1350
01:15:39,856 --> 01:15:43,666
zone B. be investigated so maybe those four things councillor

1351
01:15:43,666 --> 01:15:45,386
Fellini

1352
01:15:45,386 --> 01:15:47,286
yes thank you yeah and I don't know if you

1353
01:15:47,286 --> 01:15:49,786
want to include regional council Rossi's or do you want

1354
01:15:49,786 --> 01:15:52,176
to do your separately regional council Rossi or what you

1355
01:15:52,176 --> 01:15:54,356
wanted to separate like

1356
01:15:54,356 --> 01:15:57,796
okay okay so we got to the counter Fellini and

1357
01:15:57,796 --> 01:16:03,596
a motion to receive the deputation by by Ashley Muench

1358
01:16:03,596 --> 01:16:05,906
okay so it's moved by accounts for fully do I

1359
01:16:05,906 --> 01:16:09,266
have a second ... for for that

1360
01:16:09,266 --> 01:16:12,976
I need a second or

1361
01:16:12,976 --> 01:16:17,076
seconded by councillor Harding okay questions or comments on on

1362
01:16:17,076 --> 01:16:21,056
that so we're asking staff to ...

1363
01:16:21,056 --> 01:16:25,446
but up the river edge into the

1364
01:16:25,446 --> 01:16:29,716
pilot project for the speed humps to install a ...

1365
01:16:30,396 --> 01:16:34,106
this season if possible ... flexible bollard and an appropriate

1366
01:16:34,106 --> 01:16:38,146
location on on river edge and to install in an

1367
01:16:38,146 --> 01:16:41,576
appropriate location the chill in that place sign maybe close

1368
01:16:41,576 --> 01:16:44,856
to where the park entrance comes out and to further

1369
01:16:44,856 --> 01:16:49,526
investigate some a community safety zone along a river edge

1370
01:16:50,116 --> 01:16:52,926
okay so council wanted and you had to a question

1371
01:16:53,686 --> 01:16:56,196
yes ma'am to stay a a comment that ... we

1372
01:16:56,196 --> 01:16:59,386
we are not authorized in the installation of speed humps

1373
01:16:59,386 --> 01:17:02,286
or bombs or pillows at this time just looking at

1374
01:17:02,286 --> 01:17:04,796
it for the pilot project and we absolutely must talk

1375
01:17:04,796 --> 01:17:07,446
to fire services performed but it's something like that oh

1376
01:17:07,446 --> 01:17:10,246
yeah yeah this is just included in the the pilot

1377
01:17:10,246 --> 01:17:11,576
project

1378
01:17:11,576 --> 01:17:12,976
for real

1379
01:17:12,976 --> 01:17:17,196
yeah for review thank you okay councillor Sybil

1380
01:17:17,196 --> 01:17:19,126
thank you Madame are wonderful I just have a motion

1381
01:17:19,126 --> 01:17:21,876
to receive to begin with

1382
01:17:21,876 --> 01:17:23,786
and then move on with the motion that said being

1383
01:17:23,786 --> 01:17:25,366
proposed

1384
01:17:25,366 --> 01:17:28,586
... just a motion to receive from Ashley's stud deputation

1385
01:17:28,656 --> 01:17:30,846
sure we can we can do that

1386
01:17:30,846 --> 01:17:34,896
well we've got one on the floor already so

1387
01:17:34,896 --> 01:17:37,156
Madame clerk can I put that one off to the

1388
01:17:37,156 --> 01:17:39,266
side and put a motion on the on the floor

1389
01:17:39,266 --> 01:17:48,956
to receive the deputation

1390
01:17:48,956 --> 01:17:52,266
sorry about American I DO turn on there all right

1391
01:17:52,296 --> 01:17:54,986
we could just take care of the other first and

1392
01:17:54,986 --> 01:17:57,576
then to a motion to receive after

1393
01:17:57,576 --> 01:18:01,746
yeah I R. I was included in 2

1394
01:18:01,746 --> 01:18:04,226
but I think houses able wants to have it separated

1395
01:18:04,226 --> 01:18:05,736
out so let's do it after because we got one

1396
01:18:05,736 --> 01:18:07,956
on the floor now councillors able so let's let's do

1397
01:18:07,956 --> 01:18:11,566
it after okay so we got councillor Fellini's motion on

1398
01:18:11,566 --> 01:18:14,166
the floor to I think you're pretty clear that the

1399
01:18:14,166 --> 01:18:19,746
four things all those in favor

1400
01:18:19,746 --> 01:18:24,366
opposed Hey that serve that carries motion to receive the

1401
01:18:24,626 --> 01:18:30,466
the deputation moved by councillor Pollini second by councillor Sybil

1402
01:18:30,466 --> 01:18:32,446
all those in favor

1403
01:18:32,446 --> 01:18:34,886
... that's carried and Research Council Rossi want to put

1404
01:18:34,886 --> 01:18:37,726
a motion on about when the local signs up on

1405
01:18:37,726 --> 01:18:41,136
river ridge and RiverClan are just referenced just reference for

1406
01:18:41,136 --> 01:18:43,886
the time being we have other purchase order

1407
01:18:43,886 --> 01:18:47,256
deal with but she's well but before I do that

1408
01:18:47,256 --> 01:18:51,746
I want to make sure that so asco Mr visual

1409
01:18:51,746 --> 01:18:56,086
your question because issue of signage what it really says

1410
01:18:56,086 --> 01:18:57,676
come out

1411
01:18:57,676 --> 01:19:01,736
as being a turret and ... and I think in

1412
01:19:01,816 --> 01:19:06,536
most cases people will understand that ... assigned unless it's

1413
01:19:06,536 --> 01:19:09,756
specific to the

1414
01:19:09,756 --> 01:19:14,036
a book but whether it's a street sign or something

1415
01:19:14,066 --> 01:19:18,606
that specifically delineates that you can't do something or that

1416
01:19:18,606 --> 01:19:22,536
you shouldn't exceed something other scientists are meant as a

1417
01:19:22,536 --> 01:19:27,566
deterrent it's fair to say Mr trump

1418
01:19:27,566 --> 01:19:31,706
through through Madame murder sponsor regional councillor crossing I think

1419
01:19:31,706 --> 01:19:35,456
so Mike Mike Wass referred a few minutes ago to

1420
01:19:35,456 --> 01:19:39,786
warning signs and regulatory science so regulatory signs like a

1421
01:19:39,786 --> 01:19:41,916
speed limit sign

1422
01:19:41,916 --> 01:19:45,636
do you know where where you're directed to certain kind

1423
01:19:45,636 --> 01:19:48,176
of behavior and you have to do that all right

1424
01:19:48,346 --> 01:19:50,356
bringing sign

1425
01:19:50,356 --> 01:19:52,326
is

1426
01:19:52,326 --> 01:19:54,576
you know not not it not is clear and and

1427
01:19:54,576 --> 01:19:59,346
doesn't really have the same fact

1428
01:19:59,346 --> 01:20:03,316
so I don't know if that answers your question properly

1429
01:20:03,666 --> 01:20:05,796
there are the two types of sign in the I

1430
01:20:05,796 --> 01:20:10,186
think they will be enforced differently thank you just for

1431
01:20:10,186 --> 01:20:14,226
us for for regulatory site Mr bush article probably let

1432
01:20:14,226 --> 01:20:17,346
you know uploaded decision that was made a few years

1433
01:20:17,346 --> 01:20:20,486
ago with respect to a stop sign in a rural

1434
01:20:20,486 --> 01:20:24,186
area how the courts ruled that the stop sign was

1435
01:20:24,186 --> 01:20:28,316
just a suggestion it was back to be enforceable and

1436
01:20:28,666 --> 01:20:32,196
there was a major incident that occurred at that intersection

1437
01:20:32,566 --> 01:20:36,476
that individual was paralyzed for life at the court decided

1438
01:20:36,626 --> 01:20:39,466
that it was in this probably was at fault up

1439
01:20:39,466 --> 01:20:42,926
because there was a stop sign and it was at

1440
01:20:43,426 --> 01:20:47,626
that intersection was that was gonna properly design the stock

1441
01:20:47,626 --> 01:20:51,336
site didn't necessarily try to stop for member correctly at

1442
01:20:51,336 --> 01:20:56,616
last I was able at eight presentation everybody shocked okay

1443
01:20:57,146 --> 01:20:58,916
I kind of thought it was more than a suggestion

1444
01:20:58,916 --> 01:21:01,106
but anyway so we don't house across the can I

1445
01:21:01,106 --> 01:21:03,896
ask you what motion you're going to put full I'm

1446
01:21:03,896 --> 01:21:05,666
gonna put a motion

1447
01:21:05,666 --> 01:21:10,356
original still oversized local traffic all the signs of bowls

1448
01:21:10,556 --> 01:21:15,196
you step trucks at the west entrance regrets drive immediately

1449
01:21:15,666 --> 01:21:21,246
... for the purpose of identifying those streets as local

1450
01:21:21,246 --> 01:21:23,706
traffic

1451
01:21:23,706 --> 01:21:24,966
the only thing is it will have to have a

1452
01:21:24,966 --> 01:21:29,466
bylaws so I don't know if immediately on the

1453
01:21:29,466 --> 01:21:32,076
yeah well it has to come back to us but

1454
01:21:32,076 --> 01:21:34,926
some will be bylaw would come to us so ...

1455
01:21:35,516 --> 01:21:37,086
so that's the motion do I have a second or

1456
01:21:37,086 --> 01:21:39,526
for that

1457
01:21:39,526 --> 01:21:43,366
I need a second

1458
01:21:43,366 --> 01:21:47,966
I okay there we go we got a second

1459
01:21:47,966 --> 01:21:53,126
questions or comments on the on this motion

1460
01:21:53,126 --> 01:21:57,886
all those in favor

1461
01:21:57,886 --> 01:21:59,706
it's a keep your keep your cards up if you're

1462
01:21:59,706 --> 01:22:02,416
in favor hold your cards up

1463
01:22:02,416 --> 01:22:04,956
opposed

1464
01:22:04,956 --> 01:22:08,436
okay so that carries okay

1465
01:22:08,436 --> 01:22:11,566
okay thanks everyone and and actually thank you very much

1466
01:22:11,566 --> 01:22:14,096
I know were you this is taking a little time

1467
01:22:14,096 --> 01:22:18,216
but we'll we're getting there hopefully some of some changes

1468
01:22:18,216 --> 01:22:20,916
that so the residents along your street we'll a we'll

1469
01:22:20,916 --> 01:22:23,666
see in the coming weeks

1470
01:22:23,666 --> 01:22:25,966
thank you so much my Merion everybody else from council

1471
01:22:25,966 --> 01:22:28,536
for your time today thank you great thank you very

1472
01:22:28,536 --> 01:22:32,316
much okay members of council ...

1473
01:22:32,316 --> 01:22:36,496
we don't have any other speakers there's no delegations and

1474
01:22:36,496 --> 01:22:38,736
there's no presentations and no public meetings but we do

1475
01:22:38,736 --> 01:22:41,786
have a number of reports so let's go through and

1476
01:22:41,786 --> 01:22:45,936
upload reports that require separate discussion the first report twelve

1477
01:22:45,936 --> 01:22:49,946
one A. S. application for sign relief by law signed

1478
01:22:49,946 --> 01:22:52,196
by law relief for the wall sign it 1-74 the

1479
01:22:52,196 --> 01:22:54,636
Queensway south are there any questions or concerns on this

1480
01:22:54,636 --> 01:22:56,456
one

1481
01:22:56,456 --> 01:22:58,646
nope we can do not

1482
01:22:58,646 --> 01:23:01,766
... the next one I would pull the next one

1483
01:23:01,766 --> 01:23:05,256
the other catering road mandatory water and sewer connection ...

1484
01:23:05,256 --> 01:23:08,246
I think there were some questions that local residents has

1485
01:23:08,246 --> 01:23:11,246
raised so want to discuss that

1486
01:23:11,246 --> 01:23:15,296
... report see is a request for taxi cab terror

1487
01:23:15,336 --> 01:23:18,556
the meter rate adjustment are there any questions or councillor

1488
01:23:18,556 --> 01:23:20,456
Waddington

1489
01:23:20,456 --> 01:23:21,936
K.

1490
01:23:21,936 --> 01:23:25,196
and report D. is a request to stop up close

1491
01:23:25,196 --> 01:23:27,996
and sell portion of a lane south of Irving drive

1492
01:23:27,996 --> 01:23:30,446
north of sixth street

1493
01:23:30,446 --> 01:23:32,646
there was a suggestion so I think we need to

1494
01:23:32,646 --> 01:23:37,596
pull this one ... because there was suggestions of how

1495
01:23:37,596 --> 01:23:39,446
it could be divided up so we need to talk

1496
01:23:39,446 --> 01:23:43,096
about that he is a verbal updates

1497
01:23:43,096 --> 01:23:47,296
F. is the re conventus oracle lands part one of

1498
01:23:47,296 --> 01:23:50,126
plan sixty five R. dash three nine two three nine

1499
01:23:51,006 --> 01:23:52,896
are there any questions as it's in the cedar ridge

1500
01:23:52,896 --> 01:23:58,446
subdivision I don't think okay no issues there

1501
01:23:58,446 --> 01:24:02,126
and report G. N. H. we will call for separate

1502
01:24:02,126 --> 01:24:06,336
discussion regional council Rossi has declared a conflict on on

1503
01:24:06,336 --> 01:24:11,336
those so we'll have that discussion and I think that's

1504
01:24:11,336 --> 01:24:13,296
it for the report so by going to a motion

1505
01:24:13,296 --> 01:24:20,466
to adopt and approve reports one eighty and one F.

1506
01:24:20,466 --> 01:24:24,316
moved by council Washington seconded by councillor Sybil all those

1507
01:24:24,316 --> 01:24:26,156
in favor

1508
01:24:26,156 --> 01:24:29,026
lows and that's carried

1509
01:24:29,026 --> 01:24:33,116
okay which let's do the ... catering roads report and

1510
01:24:33,116 --> 01:24:36,156
then we'll take a short break but let's do that

1511
01:24:36,156 --> 01:24:38,516
one ... Mr all gonna be I know you and

1512
01:24:38,516 --> 01:24:43,196
I have discussed at length the this issue and accounts

1513
01:24:43,196 --> 01:24:47,156
receivable has been involved in the discussions ... there has

1514
01:24:47,156 --> 01:24:49,066
there's a very long history and I thank you for

1515
01:24:49,066 --> 01:24:51,866
the report because it is a very thorough report it

1516
01:24:51,866 --> 01:24:57,166
does discuss the ... the history of this project and

1517
01:24:57,196 --> 01:25:03,466
the developer ... the new developer maintaining the ...

1518
01:25:03,466 --> 01:25:06,816
responsibility or the the

1519
01:25:06,816 --> 01:25:08,286
the

1520
01:25:08,286 --> 01:25:10,196
connection of

1521
01:25:10,196 --> 01:25:13,626
water and sewer is for certain residents along a catering

1522
01:25:13,626 --> 01:25:16,776
road that that front and look over to this new

1523
01:25:16,776 --> 01:25:19,956
subdivision ... I know you've spoken to a few of

1524
01:25:19,956 --> 01:25:23,596
the residents along and and certainly I've had emailed us

1525
01:25:23,596 --> 01:25:28,456
as councillors Cibo ... it's been the

1526
01:25:28,456 --> 01:25:31,156
I'm quite a disruption to the residents along there at

1527
01:25:31,156 --> 01:25:33,386
the ... the work that's happened over the last three

1528
01:25:33,386 --> 01:25:36,246
years in terms of the road being closed and in

1529
01:25:36,246 --> 01:25:39,086
particular this this spring where

1530
01:25:39,086 --> 01:25:43,386
the water and sewer connections and and huge holes lots

1531
01:25:43,386 --> 01:25:47,636
of activity loud activity vibrations all that sort of stuff

1532
01:25:47,636 --> 01:25:52,186
but that's complete now and the first the asphalt is

1533
01:25:52,186 --> 01:25:55,946
down and the work is proceeding on the remainder of

1534
01:25:55,976 --> 01:25:58,986
of the road and now we're looking at the ...

1535
01:25:59,016 --> 01:26:01,936
the connections to these individual homes can you tell me

1536
01:26:01,936 --> 01:26:05,016
if you had to residents some

1537
01:26:05,016 --> 01:26:06,656
I know there are a couple that you're reaching out

1538
01:26:06,656 --> 01:26:09,676
to ... and some that had weren't able to get

1539
01:26:09,676 --> 01:26:13,376
this report Chantelle just the other day are there still

1540
01:26:13,376 --> 01:26:17,096
any concerns that you have ... in terms of moving

1541
01:26:17,096 --> 01:26:19,776
for with the report today

1542
01:26:19,776 --> 01:26:23,256
in mind that there are meetings that we're gonna have

1543
01:26:23,256 --> 01:26:27,366
with other residents to go over their individual concerns about

1544
01:26:27,396 --> 01:26:31,696
some of the the final connection from collaterals to their

1545
01:26:31,696 --> 01:26:34,076
into their homes

1546
01:26:34,076 --> 01:26:37,626
through you madam ma'am we've kind of communication with the

1547
01:26:37,626 --> 01:26:41,656
US residents and what we're hearing constantly is that they

1548
01:26:41,656 --> 01:26:45,036
wanted they wanted you want communication do wanna know what's

1549
01:26:45,036 --> 01:26:49,246
going on so I think you moving forward having I

1550
01:26:49,246 --> 01:26:52,656
did too proposed virtual workshops that we you know mentioned

1551
01:26:52,656 --> 01:26:56,906
in the report and if needed having additional workshops for

1552
01:26:56,906 --> 01:27:00,106
residents to you know ask any questions and and for

1553
01:27:00,106 --> 01:27:02,956
us to provide them with additional details you know I

1554
01:27:02,956 --> 01:27:06,516
think that will be ... you know very beneficial and

1555
01:27:06,516 --> 01:27:09,176
I think that's what we were hearing and and that's

1556
01:27:09,176 --> 01:27:12,846
what that you know residents ... which would benefit from

1557
01:27:12,846 --> 01:27:15,226
and at these meetings what we're going to have to

1558
01:27:15,226 --> 01:27:19,446
staff from engineering from building division as well as ...

1559
01:27:19,446 --> 01:27:23,216
from the developers so I didn't and their consultants so

1560
01:27:23,216 --> 01:27:25,446
that you know we can I can provide residents with

1561
01:27:25,446 --> 01:27:29,876
more details ... and ... answer any questions they may

1562
01:27:29,876 --> 01:27:31,386
have

1563
01:27:31,386 --> 01:27:34,496
so this report is asking for the ... the relief

1564
01:27:34,526 --> 01:27:38,776
of the properties fronting onto catering road to require them

1565
01:27:38,776 --> 01:27:41,206
to to hook up within a year this is asking

1566
01:27:41,206 --> 01:27:44,506
for that to be extended to to two years within

1567
01:27:44,506 --> 01:27:47,116
that is the ability for them to get their own

1568
01:27:47,116 --> 01:27:50,586
contractor to to make those connections they do have to

1569
01:27:50,896 --> 01:27:52,806
to pay a

1570
01:27:52,806 --> 01:27:56,376
plumbing fee to ... to do that connection but they

1571
01:27:56,376 --> 01:27:59,756
can get their own contractor to and that's the only

1572
01:27:59,756 --> 01:28:03,496
time that that sat there because everything else ... the

1573
01:28:03,496 --> 01:28:06,216
the water and sewers there's no frontage charge there is

1574
01:28:06,216 --> 01:28:10,156
no charge but the lateral and all their pain is

1575
01:28:10,196 --> 01:28:13,746
the plumbing permit fee and the cost of whoever they

1576
01:28:13,746 --> 01:28:18,016
hire to but that transient and to put the ...

1577
01:28:18,346 --> 01:28:21,296
the connection into their water and sewers bear in mind

1578
01:28:21,296 --> 01:28:24,246
that the similar to along lake drive they can keep

1579
01:28:24,246 --> 01:28:28,306
their well it just can't be connected through to inside

1580
01:28:28,306 --> 01:28:30,966
the house plumbing because you don't want to cross contamination

1581
01:28:30,966 --> 01:28:34,256
so that's what the the gist of of this report

1582
01:28:34,256 --> 01:28:38,006
is and then putting in place the ability for those

1583
01:28:38,326 --> 01:28:42,386
... meetings to be held in others what thirty five

1584
01:28:42,756 --> 01:28:46,176
properties as such I remember I believe twenty five point

1585
01:28:46,176 --> 01:28:49,796
twenty five sorry so they can have a ... you

1586
01:28:49,796 --> 01:28:52,656
know those are small group meetings to go over their

1587
01:28:52,656 --> 01:28:57,126
individual questions or concerns so you're satisfied that you've been

1588
01:28:57,126 --> 01:29:00,146
able to answer the majority of people's questions now we

1589
01:29:00,146 --> 01:29:02,186
need this to be able to assure them that they

1590
01:29:02,186 --> 01:29:05,126
got two years to hook up and to put in

1591
01:29:05,126 --> 01:29:08,176
place some the ... give direction to staff to to

1592
01:29:08,176 --> 01:29:11,376
do this meeting so ... I think that's that's good

1593
01:29:11,376 --> 01:29:14,246
councillor Sybil did you have any concerns or questions that

1594
01:29:14,276 --> 01:29:16,786
at this time for for this report I know you've

1595
01:29:16,786 --> 01:29:19,846
been involved with us thank you three Madame mayor I

1596
01:29:19,846 --> 01:29:21,746
I appreciate the call is that you've made thus far

1597
01:29:21,746 --> 01:29:24,746
and of the concerns that you indicated that residents have

1598
01:29:25,066 --> 01:29:27,106
certainly have been shared with both of us and that

1599
01:29:27,106 --> 01:29:29,816
was Satan ... I don't have an issue with moving

1600
01:29:29,816 --> 01:29:33,796
forward with this report ... as Satan has indicated that

1601
01:29:33,796 --> 01:29:35,776
the the main thing just a bit is that we've

1602
01:29:35,776 --> 01:29:38,156
added an additional year for residents to be able to

1603
01:29:38,156 --> 01:29:40,996
hook up and the meetings that have been requested by

1604
01:29:40,996 --> 01:29:44,596
the residents we are fully planning on accommodating and and

1605
01:29:44,596 --> 01:29:47,066
will add more if needed so ... I don't have

1606
01:29:47,066 --> 01:29:51,166
any further concerns regards to this report okay questions or

1607
01:29:51,166 --> 01:29:54,216
comments from other members of council

1608
01:29:54,216 --> 01:29:56,656
if not then councillor people do you want to move

1609
01:29:56,916 --> 01:30:00,446
the report report be that we received a report and

1610
01:30:00,446 --> 01:30:02,386
we provide the relief from the one years to the

1611
01:30:02,386 --> 01:30:06,526
two years and ... that you know the other items

1612
01:30:06,526 --> 01:30:08,636
in the report in terms of the meetings that direction

1613
01:30:08,636 --> 01:30:11,006
to give in to stop to move forward with the

1614
01:30:11,076 --> 01:30:13,896
with those as well okay so that's moved by councillor

1615
01:30:13,896 --> 01:30:17,206
CBOE by the second ...

1616
01:30:17,206 --> 01:30:20,846
I know by council Washington all those in favor

1617
01:30:20,846 --> 01:30:24,186
... is that scary ... we can take a break

1618
01:30:24,186 --> 01:30:27,646
now or councillor wanted ten is your question a quick

1619
01:30:27,646 --> 01:30:30,176
question for the taxi cab or you want to do

1620
01:30:30,176 --> 01:30:32,126
the break

1621
01:30:32,126 --> 01:30:34,036
the Mattamy I can't imagine it would take more five

1622
01:30:34,066 --> 01:30:36,526
minutes okay so let's let's do that one and then

1623
01:30:36,526 --> 01:30:37,756
we can

1624
01:30:37,756 --> 01:30:39,706
I'm back and get into the stock up close and

1625
01:30:39,706 --> 01:30:40,946
sell

1626
01:30:40,946 --> 01:30:47,136
your quick your question on the taxi cab item

1627
01:30:47,136 --> 01:30:52,296
three about American morning mum to regarding the ... surrounding

1628
01:30:52,296 --> 01:30:55,676
municipalities it was mentioned that ... which it still will

1629
01:30:55,676 --> 01:30:58,326
turn into market city of wanted city of Markham have

1630
01:30:58,326 --> 01:31:01,516
all recently either stop license in this type of business

1631
01:31:01,516 --> 01:31:04,936
or stops that in taxi cab terrorists

1632
01:31:04,936 --> 01:31:07,246
do we have any indication that we should be following

1633
01:31:07,246 --> 01:31:09,756
suit

1634
01:31:09,756 --> 01:31:12,656
are you Madame mayor to council Washington ... yes we

1635
01:31:12,656 --> 01:31:15,656
will be doing a thorough review a comprehensive review offered

1636
01:31:15,656 --> 01:31:19,266
licensing bylaw so we will take into consideration those options

1637
01:31:19,296 --> 01:31:21,976
at the time okay so ... just to follow up

1638
01:31:21,976 --> 01:31:24,536
through mid America mark does so ... for the purpose

1639
01:31:24,536 --> 01:31:27,426
of this report we're going to increase the rates but

1640
01:31:27,426 --> 01:31:30,066
... with the understanding that at some point in the

1641
01:31:30,066 --> 01:31:32,056
relatively near future we're gonna be looking to see if

1642
01:31:32,056 --> 01:31:35,016
there's actually something we're gonna continue to before yes do

1643
01:31:35,016 --> 01:31:37,806
you Madame mayor that's absolutely correct so we are looking

1644
01:31:37,806 --> 01:31:41,756
currently interviewing ... the timeline there is no set timeline

1645
01:31:41,756 --> 01:31:44,566
as of now but somewhere in twenty twenty three or

1646
01:31:44,736 --> 01:31:48,216
Q. one of twenty twenty four based on budget requirements

1647
01:31:48,216 --> 01:31:52,026
if any wonderful and ... just as a a second

1648
01:31:52,726 --> 01:31:56,046
my question in through you to month to that with

1649
01:31:56,046 --> 01:31:58,496
regards to the ability for taxi cabs to be able

1650
01:31:58,496 --> 01:32:01,826
to live for alcohol ... currently if I was to

1651
01:32:01,826 --> 01:32:04,356
place an order from a restaurant that serves alcohol the

1652
01:32:04,356 --> 01:32:07,116
delivery driver is able to deliver it

1653
01:32:07,116 --> 01:32:09,826
what is the rationale for not allowing taxi cabs to

1654
01:32:09,826 --> 01:32:11,586
do the same

1655
01:32:11,586 --> 01:32:14,296
through you might appear to council Waddington we have not

1656
01:32:14,296 --> 01:32:18,066
taken into consideration does that review will be a part

1657
01:32:18,066 --> 01:32:20,446
of our comprehensive review so at that time we will

1658
01:32:20,446 --> 01:32:23,546
take into consideration all those other a request made by

1659
01:32:23,546 --> 01:32:25,396
the taxi brokers

1660
01:32:25,396 --> 01:32:28,166
a commemorative appreciate that that ... the perfect time I

1661
01:32:28,166 --> 01:32:31,936
will move this report okay are there any other questions

1662
01:32:31,936 --> 01:32:39,086
from members of council and this report counts for filling

1663
01:32:39,086 --> 01:32:41,226
thank you Madame are just a quick call it I

1664
01:32:41,226 --> 01:32:44,106
want to just don't add a little color to council

1665
01:32:44,106 --> 01:32:47,946
whites itself ask way

1666
01:32:47,946 --> 01:32:50,726
president orders for restaurant I'll call it gets delivered by

1667
01:32:50,726 --> 01:32:54,856
the driver is because their license for AGCO

1668
01:32:54,856 --> 01:32:57,726
taxi cabs currently I'm not licensed by the uncle being

1669
01:32:57,726 --> 01:33:00,936
commissioned service ready cannot live problem should

1670
01:33:00,936 --> 01:33:03,336
that's just right now

1671
01:33:03,336 --> 01:33:06,806
okay thank you um so cancer one each in your

1672
01:33:06,806 --> 01:33:10,926
moving the ... the reclamation moving the recommendations on the

1673
01:33:10,976 --> 01:33:14,116
for items see which is received report and that council

1674
01:33:14,116 --> 01:33:17,346
approve the proposed increase in the tax cab meter terror

1675
01:33:17,886 --> 01:33:20,506
to three fifty for the first a hundred thirty five

1676
01:33:20,506 --> 01:33:23,836
meters or part thereof and twenty seven cents for each

1677
01:33:23,836 --> 01:33:26,906
additional hundred thirty five meters and that council approve the

1678
01:33:26,906 --> 01:33:31,146
proposed bylaw to amend the taxi cab terrified at inclusions

1679
01:33:31,146 --> 01:33:32,916
attachment for

1680
01:33:32,916 --> 01:33:36,646
moved by council wanted 10 seconded by

1681
01:33:36,646 --> 01:33:40,256
council regional council grassy all those in favor

1682
01:33:40,256 --> 01:33:43,476
... so not scary okay let's take I'm entertain a

1683
01:33:43,476 --> 01:33:47,546
motion for a fifteen minute break I've got

1684
01:33:47,546 --> 01:33:50,776
okay so how about 10 to 11

1685
01:33:50,776 --> 01:33:53,956
is that good okay so move accounts receivable seconded by

1686
01:33:53,956 --> 01:33:56,356
councillor hurting we take a fifteen minute break come back

1687
01:33:56,356 --> 01:33:58,066
at the

1688
01:33:58,066 --> 01:34:02,236
10 minutes to 111050 all those in favor

1689
01:34:02,236 --> 01:34:14,176
so that's carried okay we'll see about

1690
01:50:35,612 --> 01:50:38,192
and then we can let's get let's get things well

1691
01:50:38,222 --> 01:50:40,742
here we are so we can get things back

1692
01:50:40,742 --> 01:50:47,652
contract let us know when we're back recording

1693
01:50:47,652 --> 01:50:50,502
okay also hurting your audio still on excuse me in

1694
01:50:50,502 --> 01:50:53,642
case you mumble something that but you don't want

1695
01:50:53,642 --> 01:51:03,962
heard

1696
01:51:28,102 --> 01:51:29,702
we're ready

1697
01:51:29,702 --> 01:51:33,632
great okay we're gonna come back into our council after

1698
01:51:33,632 --> 01:51:39,542
our little break and we'll talk about report twelve D.

1699
01:51:39,572 --> 01:51:42,782
on page one await of our agenda Mr request to

1700
01:51:42,782 --> 01:51:45,502
stop up close and sell portion of lane located south

1701
01:51:45,502 --> 01:51:49,392
of Irving drive in north of sixth street ...

1702
01:51:49,392 --> 01:51:51,352
what counts what they're looking for is for council to

1703
01:51:51,552 --> 01:51:54,552
provide direction to staff with respect to the preferred option

1704
01:51:54,852 --> 01:51:57,872
for change of the sale the subject lands and I

1705
01:51:57,872 --> 01:52:00,262
think council wanted was your hand that was up as

1706
01:52:00,262 --> 01:52:03,312
well and I'm sure council Harding has some questions so

1707
01:52:03,392 --> 01:52:06,342
council Washington and then council hard and I will let

1708
01:52:06,342 --> 01:52:10,942
staff way into the options that are in the report

1709
01:52:11,442 --> 01:52:14,322
thanks man merit more comments regard in ... the report

1710
01:52:14,322 --> 01:52:17,632
than a ... the question ... richly when this come

1711
01:52:17,632 --> 01:52:20,782
to us I it the proposed actually suggested that we

1712
01:52:20,782 --> 01:52:23,232
reach out to the other ...

1713
01:52:23,232 --> 01:52:25,922
landowners to see because I I didn't think that the

1714
01:52:25,952 --> 01:52:29,182
the the person we're sorry the property that ... why

1715
01:52:29,182 --> 01:52:31,922
is offering to approach this was actually the ideal one

1716
01:52:32,122 --> 01:52:35,772
however the other property has actually stated that ... they

1717
01:52:35,772 --> 01:52:38,412
don't feel that they can offer to purchase the entire

1718
01:52:38,412 --> 01:52:41,892
land at this time so with the three options one

1719
01:52:41,892 --> 01:52:44,372
be in that one owner gets at the other option

1720
01:52:44,372 --> 01:52:46,372
being that the other owner gets it and the last

1721
01:52:46,372 --> 01:52:49,102
option being that they split it I would I would

1722
01:52:49,102 --> 01:52:52,372
want to just go forward with the original ... group

1723
01:52:52,372 --> 01:52:55,702
that came to us selling it to them I think

1724
01:52:55,702 --> 01:52:57,412
that's option one

1725
01:52:57,412 --> 01:53:01,782
okay well I'm actually leaning more to option 3

1726
01:53:01,782 --> 01:53:04,862
it's and actually have

1727
01:53:04,862 --> 01:53:08,062
I want to do that they both parties said that

1728
01:53:08,762 --> 01:53:10,952
because I saw what I thought was proposed by one

1729
01:53:10,952 --> 01:53:13,512
party yeah but I think the other party will get

1730
01:53:13,772 --> 01:53:15,862
both will get what they want out of this site

1731
01:53:15,932 --> 01:53:18,832
I I believe but let's so let's have a little

1732
01:53:18,832 --> 01:53:21,902
discussion on it ... councillor Harding did you want to

1733
01:53:21,902 --> 01:53:24,622
make any comments now and then we'll let

1734
01:53:24,622 --> 01:53:28,642
mom to provide some comments

1735
01:53:28,642 --> 01:53:31,072
yes up actually I did talk to staff about this

1736
01:53:31,072 --> 01:53:35,672
yesterday at that myself and ... I I still think

1737
01:53:36,072 --> 01:53:38,382
as well as what you just said

1738
01:53:38,382 --> 01:53:43,212
... options reach me seems like it's fair and ...

1739
01:53:43,212 --> 01:53:46,802
it's best for all ... I know they're still talking

1740
01:53:46,802 --> 01:53:49,172
that some people will be able to get through that

1741
01:53:49,172 --> 01:53:50,832
one spot

1742
01:53:50,832 --> 01:53:53,932
... so I think option three is the way to

1743
01:53:53,932 --> 01:53:56,422
go ...

1744
01:53:56,422 --> 01:54:00,342
the

1745
01:54:00,342 --> 01:54:02,152
there is something I want to talk about but I'll

1746
01:54:02,152 --> 01:54:04,862
wait till the discussion started

1747
01:54:04,862 --> 01:54:09,512
but any out there is a

1748
01:54:09,512 --> 01:54:13,542
let's play through and see what what happens okay mom

1749
01:54:13,542 --> 01:54:15,932
to did you want to make any comments or I

1750
01:54:15,932 --> 01:54:19,622
know we've got Mr bijani on as well ... just

1751
01:54:19,622 --> 01:54:22,502
bear in mind to the suggestion that the one property

1752
01:54:22,502 --> 01:54:25,752
owner has put forward in terms of dividing I thought

1753
01:54:25,752 --> 01:54:27,832
it was a little bit unusual

1754
01:54:27,832 --> 01:54:30,572
divisional property as the strange property line but the strange

1755
01:54:30,572 --> 01:54:34,492
property lines everywhere so but do we know if ...

1756
01:54:34,492 --> 01:54:38,122
bearing in mind what to council Washington said that some

1757
01:54:38,252 --> 01:54:41,962
do you know if the the ... if canton Erin

1758
01:54:41,962 --> 01:54:45,792
Raymond are amenable to option three that that they get

1759
01:54:45,792 --> 01:54:48,002
something that they want in the other present to get

1760
01:54:48,002 --> 01:54:50,802
something that they want are they okay with option three

1761
01:54:50,802 --> 01:54:52,732
of dividing the property

1762
01:54:52,732 --> 01:54:54,982
Madame mayor well we

1763
01:54:54,982 --> 01:54:57,342
the applicant to contact us and he is not in

1764
01:54:57,342 --> 01:55:01,332
agreement to option three he would like to purchase the

1765
01:55:01,332 --> 01:55:05,592
property fully as up slide by him through his application

1766
01:55:05,592 --> 01:55:08,782
okay but the other property owners indicated that they would

1767
01:55:08,782 --> 01:55:12,672
like to purchase some of the property okay

1768
01:55:12,672 --> 01:55:14,672
so I guess the discussion then is up to us

1769
01:55:15,352 --> 01:55:19,252
and I guess from a legal point of view if

1770
01:55:19,252 --> 01:55:23,702
the original applicant isn't in favor of of that ...

1771
01:55:23,702 --> 01:55:27,352
does that throw a monkey wrench into

1772
01:55:27,352 --> 01:55:31,272
our ability to to go with option 3 if he's

1773
01:55:31,272 --> 01:55:33,022
you may and may not be what he wants but

1774
01:55:33,022 --> 01:55:35,772
he may our wait what he prefers but is it

1775
01:55:35,772 --> 01:55:40,062
better than the nothing where where's our responsibility in terms

1776
01:55:40,062 --> 01:55:43,762
of offering option three which isn't exactly what he's looking

1777
01:55:43,762 --> 01:55:45,182
for

1778
01:55:45,182 --> 01:55:48,002
Mr Mazzone any comment on that from a legal point

1779
01:55:48,002 --> 01:55:49,142
of view

1780
01:55:49,142 --> 01:55:50,542
I'm

1781
01:55:50,542 --> 01:55:53,382
thank you Madame mer I think it is open to

1782
01:55:53,382 --> 01:55:54,752
the town

1783
01:55:54,752 --> 01:55:58,802
to decide how how it wishes to ... offers lands

1784
01:55:58,802 --> 01:56:00,792
for sale

1785
01:56:00,792 --> 01:56:04,132
eight the the the fact that Mr Raymond has been

1786
01:56:04,132 --> 01:56:09,892
the applicant doesn't prevent us from considering other options and

1787
01:56:09,892 --> 01:56:12,022
one of the S. that just

1788
01:56:12,022 --> 01:56:15,302
okay thank you ... cancer heart in that you want

1789
01:56:15,302 --> 01:56:17,222
to make any other comments or what was the other

1790
01:56:17,222 --> 01:56:19,622
thing that you were going to bring up that you

1791
01:56:19,622 --> 01:56:20,922
need to bring it up to you wanna bring it

1792
01:56:20,922 --> 01:56:22,442
up

1793
01:56:22,442 --> 01:56:26,352
yeah basically it's the amount of money that's going to

1794
01:56:26,352 --> 01:56:30,192
be graced our revenue

1795
01:56:30,192 --> 01:56:32,422
our

1796
01:56:32,422 --> 01:56:35,002
that particular amount of money

1797
01:56:35,002 --> 01:56:38,172
I wanna shout goes true could it be allocated to

1798
01:56:38,172 --> 01:56:40,302
cars parked out

1799
01:56:40,302 --> 01:56:43,732
it down or to replace retaining wall or not I

1800
01:56:43,732 --> 01:56:49,192
mean it was dark Mr Weers areas

1801
01:56:49,192 --> 01:56:51,942
Mr reader cannot be allocated within that general area or

1802
01:56:51,942 --> 01:56:55,412
does it go into the general pot of land sales

1803
01:56:56,132 --> 01:56:58,662
three amount of merit to ... to councillor are doing

1804
01:56:58,662 --> 01:57:01,602
so are are council's policy is currently but at any

1805
01:57:01,602 --> 01:57:02,852
land

1806
01:57:02,852 --> 01:57:06,042
... seeds go into our land acquisition reserves and it

1807
01:57:06,042 --> 01:57:08,182
is a town wide reserves so we did set that

1808
01:57:08,182 --> 01:57:10,232
reserve up and not policy up I believe it was

1809
01:57:10,232 --> 01:57:13,922
in twenty nineteen we contribute to it annually and we

1810
01:57:13,922 --> 01:57:17,722
have had previous sales in other words that have gone

1811
01:57:17,722 --> 01:57:19,922
into that reserve in that reserve will be use for

1812
01:57:19,922 --> 01:57:22,422
town my purchases so I mean council could change our

1813
01:57:22,422 --> 01:57:25,642
policy on that but it wouldn't be my recommendation what

1814
01:57:25,692 --> 01:57:30,432
what's the total amount of our revenue from this

1815
01:57:30,432 --> 01:57:32,902
I don't know if it's in the

1816
01:57:32,902 --> 01:57:34,632
in the report

1817
01:57:34,632 --> 01:57:37,392
I've got it here at the office

1818
01:57:37,392 --> 01:57:42,452
that's $9425 okay

1819
01:57:42,452 --> 01:57:44,732
now the the work that you're wanting to be done

1820
01:57:44,732 --> 01:57:49,362
in corner park ... maybe Mr but no he's on

1821
01:57:49,362 --> 01:57:53,642
the meeting

1822
01:57:53,642 --> 01:57:56,462
Mr first tell us looking at it was yeah Mr

1823
01:57:56,462 --> 01:58:01,362
Ferguson is is on vacation all there are a

1824
01:58:01,362 --> 01:58:03,682
comment on on the work that needs to be done

1825
01:58:03,682 --> 01:58:07,092
at corners Park is there anything in this year's budget

1826
01:58:07,092 --> 01:58:08,942
that would allow for that work or would that be

1827
01:58:08,942 --> 01:58:15,032
a separate budget request for the twenty twenty three budget

1828
01:58:15,032 --> 01:58:17,672
what you're on

1829
01:58:17,672 --> 01:58:20,442
thank god three letter ... to to members of council

1830
01:58:20,702 --> 01:58:23,332
... depending on the school ... I know that I

1831
01:58:23,332 --> 01:58:26,412
haven't had extensive conversations with that Mr person at this

1832
01:58:26,412 --> 01:58:28,742
point in time but it would depend on the scope

1833
01:58:28,742 --> 01:58:32,392
of what what's required in all likelihood the value that

1834
01:58:32,532 --> 01:58:34,462
project would be something we would have to put for

1835
01:58:34,462 --> 01:58:36,052
is a request

1836
01:58:36,052 --> 01:58:38,742
okay

1837
01:58:38,742 --> 01:58:40,662
okay

1838
01:58:40,662 --> 01:58:43,872
here your questions are within us yeah I'll just make

1839
01:58:43,872 --> 01:58:45,882
sure that Mr for yourself when he's coming up with

1840
01:58:45,882 --> 01:58:49,612
that should be saying about monitoring that

1841
01:58:49,612 --> 01:58:52,642
any out okay yeah so rather not I I'm it

1842
01:58:52,672 --> 01:58:56,482
was option three up I don't know all

1843
01:58:56,482 --> 01:59:00,572
so you want to put forward a motion to

1844
01:59:00,572 --> 01:59:04,622
receive the report ... and we had a pride direction

1845
01:59:04,622 --> 01:59:07,262
you're saying the sale of the subject lands two option

1846
01:59:07,262 --> 01:59:10,522
three and how that is divided up is is something

1847
01:59:10,522 --> 01:59:14,442
that will be ... staff would be working with the

1848
01:59:14,442 --> 01:59:17,402
two owners it might be what the ... one resident

1849
01:59:17,402 --> 01:59:20,372
suggested it might be slightly different so ... if we

1850
01:59:20,372 --> 01:59:22,392
go to option three then then that would be up

1851
01:59:22,392 --> 01:59:25,422
to staff to to do that

1852
01:59:25,422 --> 01:59:28,862
determination of the

1853
01:59:28,862 --> 01:59:32,152
a lot lines and that we ... option recognition three

1854
01:59:32,152 --> 01:59:34,652
is passing a bylaw to authorizing the stopping up close

1855
01:59:34,652 --> 01:59:37,832
and sale the of the lands to the abutting the

1856
01:59:37,832 --> 01:59:40,592
abutting property owners at the rate of three seventy four

1857
01:59:40,592 --> 01:59:43,832
per square foot in accordance with the service plan policies

1858
01:59:43,832 --> 01:59:46,762
so that's your recommendation yes

1859
01:59:46,762 --> 01:59:49,592
Dr a secondary for for that

1860
01:59:49,592 --> 01:59:51,282
but I am just trying to get a second here

1861
01:59:51,282 --> 01:59:53,152
comes wanna see your as your car do I have

1862
01:59:53,152 --> 01:59:56,272
a second or for that motion seconded by councillor stable

1863
01:59:56,612 --> 02:00:01,712
questions or comments council Waddington ... option three the other

1864
02:00:01,712 --> 02:00:03,982
person has already said they're not interested

1865
02:00:03,982 --> 02:00:06,452
so help and

1866
02:00:06,452 --> 02:00:09,762
so it's going to go through they want the property

1867
02:00:10,212 --> 02:00:12,942
is we're doing is trying to

1868
02:00:12,942 --> 02:00:14,422
cut out a section of this and give it to

1869
02:00:14,422 --> 02:00:17,812
the the other people well we're also trying to spend

1870
02:00:17,812 --> 02:00:19,842
money before we actually get it like it there through

1871
02:00:19,962 --> 02:00:22,432
the people that are on what is a closely are

1872
02:00:22,432 --> 02:00:24,242
looking for a small section of it it's not gonna

1873
02:00:24,242 --> 02:00:26,132
be nine thousand dollars it's gonna be only a percentage

1874
02:00:26,132 --> 02:00:29,252
of of that amount as well well anyway we're we're

1875
02:00:29,252 --> 02:00:32,102
not going to deal with the the the the retaining

1876
02:00:32,102 --> 02:00:35,272
wall in the budget for that this report is recommendation

1877
02:00:35,272 --> 02:00:37,912
is just saying that we're saying option three and that

1878
02:00:37,912 --> 02:00:40,982
we're splitting that somehow between the the two property owners

1879
02:00:40,982 --> 02:00:43,502
that are interested the first one is saying yeah I

1880
02:00:43,502 --> 02:00:47,102
really want to buy it all but council has determined

1881
02:00:47,412 --> 02:00:50,852
potentially if this passes that we're widest split between the

1882
02:00:50,852 --> 02:00:53,602
two owners if he doesn't want to to buy even

1883
02:00:53,602 --> 02:00:56,592
a portion of it that's up to him were saying

1884
02:00:56,622 --> 02:01:00,382
our decision as we're going to split it between however

1885
02:01:00,452 --> 02:01:03,782
that is determined that our option that council Harding is

1886
02:01:03,812 --> 02:01:06,432
is suggesting that it be split between the two owners

1887
02:01:06,672 --> 02:01:09,182
I have a feeling that that the other owner the

1888
02:01:09,182 --> 02:01:12,512
other applicants the original one we'll take something rather than

1889
02:01:12,512 --> 02:01:16,112
nothing but if you choose not to purchase that then

1890
02:01:16,142 --> 02:01:19,402
then that's that's fine and it doesn't get so doesn't

1891
02:01:19,402 --> 02:01:21,832
get sold only gets part of it gets sold to

1892
02:01:21,832 --> 02:01:24,402
us to the one owner

1893
02:01:24,402 --> 02:01:29,352
so so it just just to clarify somebody has offered

1894
02:01:29,352 --> 02:01:31,262
to purchase the property

1895
02:01:31,262 --> 02:01:35,682
we're rejecting that it right offering that a portion of

1896
02:01:35,682 --> 02:01:38,412
it to somebody else as now the primary goal of

1897
02:01:38,412 --> 02:01:39,592
the town

1898
02:01:39,592 --> 02:01:43,392
versus actually selling it to the person who wants it

1899
02:01:43,392 --> 02:01:46,072
the way the stop up close and sell process goes

1900
02:01:46,382 --> 02:01:48,762
is that it's our option in a what Mr there's

1901
02:01:48,762 --> 02:01:52,562
only one child clarify game is our option as to

1902
02:01:52,562 --> 02:01:55,052
whether we want to sell it to anybody

1903
02:01:55,052 --> 02:01:57,432
don't just sell it to a one or the other

1904
02:01:57,552 --> 02:02:01,022
or to both councillor Harding is saying he's putting forward

1905
02:02:01,022 --> 02:02:04,812
a motion to sell to to both in for both

1906
02:02:04,812 --> 02:02:09,272
don't want to buy it then that's fine

1907
02:02:09,272 --> 02:02:10,672
okay okay

1908
02:02:10,672 --> 02:02:13,332
Mr Bijan am I correct in and what I'm saying

1909
02:02:13,332 --> 02:02:14,862
in terms of

1910
02:02:14,862 --> 02:02:18,382
it's as you said it's our options and decide whether

1911
02:02:18,382 --> 02:02:20,672
we want to sell it at all that's because somebody

1912
02:02:20,672 --> 02:02:22,822
offers to to buy something doesn't mean that we have

1913
02:02:22,822 --> 02:02:24,892
to run and say well sure yeah let's let's do

1914
02:02:24,892 --> 02:02:25,992
it

1915
02:02:25,992 --> 02:02:29,452
and we can decide as as has been here to

1916
02:02:29,452 --> 02:02:33,032
contact the other property owners to see if they're interested

1917
02:02:33,032 --> 02:02:35,652
in buying it and there have been instances where we

1918
02:02:35,652 --> 02:02:39,252
have split a piece of property between two property owners

1919
02:02:39,532 --> 02:02:41,692
I've been on council long enough to know and have

1920
02:02:41,692 --> 02:02:45,502
been involved with with those situations where and sometimes one

1921
02:02:45,502 --> 02:02:48,232
may have wanted to buy it all but we offer

1922
02:02:48,232 --> 02:02:50,422
it and then it gets split between the between the

1923
02:02:50,422 --> 02:02:54,942
two so are we doing anything wrong

1924
02:02:54,942 --> 02:02:57,402
No Way I don't think we are Madame mayor ...

1925
02:02:57,702 --> 02:02:59,082
...

1926
02:02:59,082 --> 02:03:01,122
I do think we should keep in mind is ...

1927
02:03:01,122 --> 02:03:04,172
once the laneways close would be offered for sale it

1928
02:03:04,172 --> 02:03:07,192
is the the two owners

1929
02:03:07,192 --> 02:03:11,642
either of them is obliged to to accept it if

1930
02:03:11,642 --> 02:03:12,662
it

1931
02:03:12,662 --> 02:03:16,442
if the applicant is interested only in purchasing the old

1932
02:03:16,442 --> 02:03:20,262
saying and not interested in purchasing a car only of

1933
02:03:20,262 --> 02:03:23,542
it of course sets up to up to him and

1934
02:03:23,542 --> 02:03:27,952
and did ... the ... the the other interested party

1935
02:03:27,952 --> 02:03:30,822
so so I think ... what one thing that perhaps

1936
02:03:30,822 --> 02:03:33,882
council should bear in mind it is

1937
02:03:33,882 --> 02:03:38,902
if the original applicant decides that that he's not interested

1938
02:03:38,902 --> 02:03:41,812
in purchasing a portion only of it then the town

1939
02:03:41,812 --> 02:03:44,992
has to be satisfied that it's okay was just selling

1940
02:03:45,432 --> 02:03:48,192
a portion of the of the lane right I know

1941
02:03:48,192 --> 02:03:51,262
that's perfectly obvious but yeah wanted to make the point

1942
02:03:51,742 --> 02:03:54,082
but but nothing stops us from doing it and in

1943
02:03:54,082 --> 02:03:58,802
that manner that's that's council's wish someone of a report

1944
02:03:58,802 --> 02:04:01,332
come back to us saying that the first are the

1945
02:04:01,652 --> 02:04:05,982
the applicant isn't interested in and purchasing only part of

1946
02:04:05,982 --> 02:04:08,842
it he was it was an all or nothing thing

1947
02:04:08,872 --> 02:04:13,472
and the town has decided now to to only to

1948
02:04:13,472 --> 02:04:16,742
sell part of it to the one that it that

1949
02:04:16,742 --> 02:04:19,422
is interested or at that time we can decide not

1950
02:04:19,422 --> 02:04:23,422
to sell to to to them either is that still

1951
02:04:23,422 --> 02:04:25,832
an option

1952
02:04:25,832 --> 02:04:28,942
it could be done that way madam merry you could

1953
02:04:28,942 --> 02:04:32,322
I suppose ... leave it to the discretion of staff

1954
02:04:32,322 --> 02:04:35,942
to to what the locals

1955
02:04:35,942 --> 02:04:38,322
anyway but if council wants it to come back to

1956
02:04:38,322 --> 02:04:41,582
them if if we don't have deals for the disposition

1957
02:04:41,582 --> 02:04:44,132
of the entire coals portion we can do that too

1958
02:04:44,572 --> 02:04:48,532
okay okay of further questions or comments that I see

1959
02:04:48,532 --> 02:04:50,602
your hand up councillor stable

1960
02:04:50,602 --> 02:04:53,312
thank you through memory did but my question or comment

1961
02:04:53,312 --> 02:04:56,112
regarding the major **** thank you okay so I've got

1962
02:04:56,112 --> 02:04:59,232
it moved and seconded so council hernias has moved the

1963
02:04:59,692 --> 02:05:03,702
the motion and option three to sell to the owners

1964
02:05:03,702 --> 02:05:07,132
at one fifty call really close and twelve six street

1965
02:05:07,712 --> 02:05:10,172
to offer but first we have to stop up close

1966
02:05:10,172 --> 02:05:12,502
and sell and then we would offer to the to

1967
02:05:12,502 --> 02:05:17,062
abutting landowners and ... depending on how that discussion goes

1968
02:05:17,062 --> 02:05:19,812
it may get sold to

1969
02:05:19,812 --> 02:05:23,382
both or may just get sold to one of the

1970
02:05:23,382 --> 02:05:24,962
properties

1971
02:05:24,962 --> 02:05:29,252
owners okay are we good with that okay

1972
02:05:29,252 --> 02:05:32,522
councillor civil matter merit I do have a question after

1973
02:05:32,522 --> 02:05:34,592
all I'm just curious whether or not there's anything that

1974
02:05:34,592 --> 02:05:37,962
we can do in terms of revision to recommendations free

1975
02:05:38,472 --> 02:05:40,952
... that would allow for a portion of the lane

1976
02:05:40,952 --> 02:05:43,042
to be closed and sold as opposed all of it

1977
02:05:43,072 --> 02:05:44,982
if only one of the two parties wants to buy

1978
02:05:45,182 --> 02:05:47,512
part of it

1979
02:05:47,512 --> 02:05:50,442
Mr is only would be the whole thing

1980
02:05:50,442 --> 02:05:53,212
closed and offered up for sale and and how do

1981
02:05:53,212 --> 02:05:56,262
we if only a portion they get sold

1982
02:05:56,262 --> 02:05:57,692


1983
02:05:57,692 --> 02:06:01,072
what happens to the other portion we stopped we've got

1984
02:06:01,072 --> 02:06:03,082
a motion to stop up close and sell but what

1985
02:06:03,082 --> 02:06:05,442
we don't have a buyer is still stays in our

1986
02:06:05,472 --> 02:06:09,572
our possession it is in our position it it wouldn't

1987
02:06:09,572 --> 02:06:10,772
have

1988
02:06:10,772 --> 02:06:15,312
... status of public highway anymore but it would just

1989
02:06:15,312 --> 02:06:17,822
be kind of a

1990
02:06:17,822 --> 02:06:20,042
I have to say would be an oddball orphaned little

1991
02:06:20,042 --> 02:06:22,672
section of land

1992
02:06:22,672 --> 02:06:25,772
but yeah you know we would just be just another

1993
02:06:25,772 --> 02:06:31,682
landowner icicles yeah okay councillor Harding

1994
02:06:31,682 --> 02:06:34,272
you're on mute

1995
02:06:34,272 --> 02:06:39,012
I thought I had made myself known from the other

1996
02:06:39,012 --> 02:06:42,152
okay so you're saying I'm concerned on this just as

1997
02:06:42,152 --> 02:06:45,252
fast leaving a small piece of parcel there that nobody's

1998
02:06:45,252 --> 02:06:49,712
going to maintain our minor injuries

1999
02:06:49,712 --> 02:06:51,302
now

2000
02:06:51,302 --> 02:06:53,512
well it hasn't been but I mean there's the people

2001
02:06:53,512 --> 02:06:56,032
are saying something about you know like that yourself trees

2002
02:06:56,032 --> 02:06:59,572
on there that may have to be cleared later on

2003
02:06:59,572 --> 02:07:02,312
so concerning so do you want staff to come back

2004
02:07:02,312 --> 02:07:05,162
to us if

2005
02:07:05,162 --> 02:07:08,422
before they do the stop up close and sell

2006
02:07:08,422 --> 02:07:11,732
by law to come back to us after they discussed

2007
02:07:11,732 --> 02:07:14,582
with the to property owners and if the one is

2008
02:07:14,582 --> 02:07:18,022
no longer interested we may not do the stop up

2009
02:07:18,022 --> 02:07:19,562
close and sell do you want them to come back

2010
02:07:19,562 --> 02:07:22,632
to us after that have that discussion with the the

2011
02:07:22,632 --> 02:07:25,692
two owners yeah because I mean it it's something that

2012
02:07:25,862 --> 02:07:27,442
I think staff would have to go on a look

2013
02:07:27,442 --> 02:07:30,202
at it see if there is any at all for

2014
02:07:30,202 --> 02:07:32,532
us still on a piece parcel that there's no access

2015
02:07:32,532 --> 02:07:35,492
to do how do you do anything with that how

2016
02:07:35,492 --> 02:07:37,962
do we maintain that they're gonna stay on the other

2017
02:07:37,962 --> 02:07:40,432
end you have access from ...

2018
02:07:40,432 --> 02:07:42,852
curry yeah

2019
02:07:42,852 --> 02:07:44,532
but I think it would be good to if it's

2020
02:07:44,582 --> 02:07:47,592
a five staff came back to us if they reach

2021
02:07:47,592 --> 02:07:50,212
out to the to property owners tell them the discussion

2022
02:07:50,212 --> 02:07:53,202
today if the ones as well I'm I'm not interested

2023
02:07:53,672 --> 02:07:55,932
then now they can come back and and tell us

2024
02:07:55,932 --> 02:07:58,812
that and if at that time we want to do

2025
02:07:58,812 --> 02:08:01,712
a different decision we can look at that but ...

2026
02:08:02,282 --> 02:08:03,952
maybe they need to come back to us after they

2027
02:08:03,952 --> 02:08:06,922
don't talk to the to property owners yeah I was

2028
02:08:06,922 --> 02:08:10,312
I was only informed by staff yesterday that the section

2029
02:08:10,312 --> 02:08:13,972
that comes up at six Street as like the Java

2030
02:08:13,972 --> 02:08:19,862
bought it and I guess it's no longer any sensible

2031
02:08:19,862 --> 02:08:22,932
entrance from that point yes we still have the entrance

2032
02:08:22,932 --> 02:08:24,422
from the other way

2033
02:08:24,422 --> 02:08:28,232
yeah yeah yeah okay right

2034
02:08:28,232 --> 02:08:30,902
okay so the motions on the floor moved and seconded

2035
02:08:31,022 --> 02:08:35,482
all those in favor

2036
02:08:35,482 --> 02:08:38,242
sorry I was arrested you have your hand up there

2037
02:08:38,242 --> 02:08:41,692
okay yes all those in favor opposed

2038
02:08:41,692 --> 02:08:44,702
and that carries and we'll ask for staff to come

2039
02:08:44,702 --> 02:08:47,302
back to us with them

2040
02:08:47,302 --> 02:08:50,652
an update as to the discussions with the two property

2041
02:08:50,652 --> 02:08:52,122
owners

2042
02:08:52,122 --> 02:08:53,652
okay

2043
02:08:53,652 --> 02:08:58,292
okay ... moving right along here are we going to

2044
02:08:58,292 --> 02:09:02,862
receive the additional correspondence yes yes we can receive that

2045
02:09:03,412 --> 02:09:06,672
yeah and again the direction to

2046
02:09:06,672 --> 02:09:10,932
come back to council with an update as to

2047
02:09:10,932 --> 02:09:15,092
if the to property owners are not interested in option

2048
02:09:15,092 --> 02:09:18,182
three now that we formally passed it

2049
02:09:18,182 --> 02:09:23,482
okay okay verbal report the merc

2050
02:09:23,482 --> 02:09:26,242
Mr Arjun are you giving the report or is it

2051
02:09:26,242 --> 02:09:29,212
Mr nasty I'm not sure who's here today there is

2052
02:09:29,212 --> 02:09:32,652
Mr

2053
02:09:32,652 --> 02:09:37,512
warning man America council members

2054
02:09:37,512 --> 02:09:39,932
good morning

2055
02:09:39,932 --> 02:09:42,142
I have a couple pictures but I'll just wait until

2056
02:09:42,142 --> 02:09:46,422
I'm done with my verbal updates first

2057
02:09:46,422 --> 02:09:51,442
okay

2058
02:09:51,442 --> 02:09:54,342
so the following is the eight th of the monthly

2059
02:09:54,342 --> 02:09:57,472
updates to council regarding the murder project

2060
02:09:57,472 --> 02:10:01,152
many of the following items are currently ongoing

2061
02:10:01,152 --> 02:10:04,402
installation of the weeping tile in the parking lot installation

2062
02:10:04,402 --> 02:10:07,672
of the pond soil cover over the liner footings and

2063
02:10:07,672 --> 02:10:10,712
foundations of the whole building

2064
02:10:10,712 --> 02:10:12,552
a slab on grade or for the base in the

2065
02:10:12,552 --> 02:10:15,802
mechanical room for the multi purpose room gymnasium areas such

2066
02:10:15,802 --> 02:10:19,942
as the walking track and service areas have been completed

2067
02:10:19,942 --> 02:10:23,522
installation of the structural steel on the gymnasium is almost

2068
02:10:23,522 --> 02:10:27,092
complete a lot lobby and the library is about fifty

2069
02:10:27,092 --> 02:10:29,242
percent on

2070
02:10:29,242 --> 02:10:32,832
finishing of the dry pond through installation of the topsoil

2071
02:10:32,832 --> 02:10:36,472
seed mainstream precast installations ongoing

2072
02:10:36,472 --> 02:10:39,672
and ... project is currently forecast to be delivered within

2073
02:10:39,672 --> 02:10:44,362
the approved budget and as it stands we're scheduled of

2074
02:10:44,362 --> 02:10:49,012
occupancy of Q. four twenty twenty three

2075
02:10:49,012 --> 02:10:55,302
and I just have a couple pictures

2076
02:10:55,302 --> 02:10:57,472
everyone see my screen

2077
02:10:57,472 --> 02:11:00,552
and I'm sure we all can already so this is

2078
02:11:00,552 --> 02:11:03,132
kind of a bird's eye view of the entire site

2079
02:11:03,392 --> 02:11:06,732
right over here we got the slap foundation and the

2080
02:11:06,732 --> 02:11:10,272
poor of the slab on grade for the pool right

2081
02:11:10,272 --> 02:11:13,012
over here is the gymnasium of the two stories of

2082
02:11:13,012 --> 02:11:17,512
the structural steel including bell the walking track on this

2083
02:11:17,512 --> 02:11:20,972
site is fifty percent of the structural steel has been

2084
02:11:20,972 --> 02:11:23,722
erected for the library

2085
02:11:23,722 --> 02:11:26,712
this is just a close up of the of the

2086
02:11:26,712 --> 02:11:30,112
library and the gymnasium again

2087
02:11:30,112 --> 02:11:32,152
another close up

2088
02:11:32,152 --> 02:11:34,982
this is another close up of the library

2089
02:11:34,982 --> 02:11:37,552
and this is a close up of the pool foundation

2090
02:11:37,552 --> 02:11:40,842
has been corrected so far there's a lot more progress

2091
02:11:40,842 --> 02:11:47,012
on site right now but ... we're getting there

2092
02:11:47,012 --> 02:11:51,452
we we lost some time during the strike have we

2093
02:11:51,452 --> 02:11:53,282
been able to make any of that up that they

2094
02:11:53,282 --> 02:11:55,972
they were trying to sort of tandem certain things to

2095
02:11:55,972 --> 02:11:58,642
try to make that up a bit as anything then

2096
02:11:58,642 --> 02:12:00,352
gained on not

2097
02:12:00,352 --> 02:12:02,922
we're trying to accelerate some activities but we're gonna see

2098
02:12:02,922 --> 02:12:05,602
acceleration of those activities towards the end of the project

2099
02:12:05,602 --> 02:12:08,872
not at this moment right now we're kind of concentrate

2100
02:12:08,872 --> 02:12:11,442
on the structural steel I tried to get the the

2101
02:12:11,442 --> 02:12:16,732
building envelope closed in or before winter hits

2102
02:12:16,732 --> 02:12:21,482
okay questions or comments from members of council

2103
02:12:21,482 --> 02:12:25,842
councillor Washington through you Mr and what we're talking occupancy

2104
02:12:25,842 --> 02:12:27,812
of Q. four of twenty twenty three does that mean

2105
02:12:27,812 --> 02:12:29,622
that the town is taking possession or does that mean

2106
02:12:29,622 --> 02:12:31,762
that the pool is full of water the libraries full

2107
02:12:31,762 --> 02:12:34,592
of books and residents are using

2108
02:12:34,592 --> 02:12:37,912
that means we have taken possession of the building and

2109
02:12:37,912 --> 02:12:41,962
... most likely the grand opening and the occupancy and

2110
02:12:41,962 --> 02:12:45,862
open use for the public that's yet to be determined

2111
02:12:45,862 --> 02:12:47,392
I'm

2112
02:12:47,392 --> 02:12:52,402
okay but answer my question with the determination of that

2113
02:12:52,402 --> 02:12:56,032
date to we have a idea is it a month

2114
02:12:56,062 --> 02:12:58,912
or two later is that three to six months later

2115
02:12:59,252 --> 02:13:01,842
what ... what what's the thought process all right now

2116
02:13:01,842 --> 02:13:05,282
it typically takes about two to three months for us

2117
02:13:05,282 --> 02:13:09,402
to uh commission and get staff trained up and in

2118
02:13:09,402 --> 02:13:12,592
there and like you said books equipment all those things

2119
02:13:12,932 --> 02:13:17,332
looked up and working appropriate okay so yeah it would

2120
02:13:17,332 --> 02:13:19,882
be Q. one Q. two of twenty twenty four for

2121
02:13:19,882 --> 02:13:23,412
people actually enjoy the event that it is exactly thank

2122
02:13:23,412 --> 02:13:25,292
you

2123
02:13:25,292 --> 02:13:29,142
other questions or comments

2124
02:13:29,142 --> 02:13:32,772
if not a motion to receive a verbal updates

2125
02:13:32,772 --> 02:13:35,892
by council Waddington seconded by accounts receivable all those in

2126
02:13:35,892 --> 02:13:37,382
favor

2127
02:13:37,382 --> 02:13:41,432
close and that's carried we've done out let me go

2128
02:13:41,462 --> 02:13:45,072
to

2129
02:13:45,072 --> 02:13:49,222
G. the lake drive shoreline jurisdiction action plan project schedule

2130
02:13:49,222 --> 02:13:53,732
residential indirect water front properties

2131
02:13:53,732 --> 02:13:56,862
and I think Anna is going to do the presentation

2132
02:13:56,962 --> 02:13:59,952
this is on page one thirty six of our agenda

2133
02:14:00,402 --> 02:14:06,152
if you get a paper one

2134
02:14:06,152 --> 02:14:07,922
welcome manner

2135
02:14:07,922 --> 02:14:10,702
thank you good morning I'm Madame mayor and members of

2136
02:14:10,702 --> 02:14:13,672
council ... if it's okay I'd I'd like to share

2137
02:14:13,672 --> 02:14:24,772
my screen sure thank you

2138
02:14:24,772 --> 02:14:28,152
we got everybody see that

2139
02:14:28,152 --> 02:14:30,132
great

2140
02:14:30,132 --> 02:14:32,402
so good morning everyone I'm not a mere and members

2141
02:14:32,402 --> 02:14:35,152
of council this morning I my presentation will provide an

2142
02:14:35,152 --> 02:14:39,802
overview of the choose westrac reports today's council agenda relating

2143
02:14:39,802 --> 02:14:45,592
to ... the like tractor stiction action plan

2144
02:14:45,592 --> 02:14:49,932
and Dr more specifically minor presentation today will provide an

2145
02:14:49,932 --> 02:14:53,752
overview on implementation of the operational and policy steps in

2146
02:14:53,752 --> 02:14:57,552
the action plan including a proposed projects cash schedule for

2147
02:14:57,552 --> 02:15:01,652
residential properties and next steps for implementation of the action

2148
02:15:01,652 --> 02:15:05,182
plan ... for beach associations

2149
02:15:05,182 --> 02:15:08,452
secondly I will also be providing an overview of a

2150
02:15:08,452 --> 02:15:12,322
potential in term policy that staff is recommending ... that

2151
02:15:12,322 --> 02:15:15,602
would apply to indirect water front property owners and would

2152
02:15:15,602 --> 02:15:18,942
allow certain works to take place on the sidelines prior

2153
02:15:18,942 --> 02:15:21,262
to completion of the action plan

2154
02:15:21,262 --> 02:15:24,402
and lastly ... my presentation will provide an overview of

2155
02:15:24,402 --> 02:15:27,912
the proposed new revision to the term lakeside lands and

2156
02:15:27,912 --> 02:15:38,362
the action plan

2157
02:15:41,442 --> 02:15:44,802
sorry about that so with respect to implementation of the

2158
02:15:44,802 --> 02:15:48,802
action plans staff have put together projects scheduled to implement

2159
02:15:48,802 --> 02:15:51,082
the operational policy

2160
02:15:51,082 --> 02:15:54,342
also the action plan for residential indirect water front properties

2161
02:15:54,342 --> 02:15:56,832
as shown on the slide and

2162
02:15:56,832 --> 02:15:58,542
the staff report

2163
02:15:58,542 --> 02:16:03,252
the project schedule includes nine key project milestones as shown

2164
02:16:03,252 --> 02:16:05,612
on the left hand side of

2165
02:16:05,612 --> 02:16:08,772
the chart on on on this slide and the associated

2166
02:16:08,772 --> 02:16:12,332
timelines for each milestone is shown on the right hand

2167
02:16:12,332 --> 02:16:13,472
side

2168
02:16:13,472 --> 02:16:16,092
so given the scale and complexity of the project is

2169
02:16:16,092 --> 02:16:19,892
anticipated to take approximately three years to complete implementation of

2170
02:16:19,892 --> 02:16:24,132
the action plan for residential properties N. B. target completion

2171
02:16:24,132 --> 02:16:26,772
date is scheduled for October

2172
02:16:26,772 --> 02:16:31,722
2024

2173
02:16:31,722 --> 02:16:35,502
so the next few slides I'll be on

2174
02:16:35,502 --> 02:16:38,672
providing greater detail on each of the nine ... milestones

2175
02:16:38,672 --> 02:16:42,162
within the project schedule so the first milestone is project

2176
02:16:42,162 --> 02:16:43,962
and sourcing

2177
02:16:43,962 --> 02:16:46,162
and work on this milestone began in April of this

2178
02:16:46,162 --> 02:16:48,542
year and is scheduled to be completed in September of

2179
02:16:48,812 --> 02:16:51,702
two thousand and twenty three so to date the town

2180
02:16:51,702 --> 02:16:54,722
has established a project committee for the later action plan

2181
02:16:55,172 --> 02:16:57,562
the committee meets on a weekly basis and consist of

2182
02:16:57,562 --> 02:17:01,992
internal staff as well as stock external agencies such as

2183
02:17:01,992 --> 02:17:05,632
the the lake Simcoe are conservation authority and the ministry

2184
02:17:05,632 --> 02:17:09,492
of northern development and mines natural resources and forestry a

2185
02:17:09,492 --> 02:17:13,462
communications consultant has also been retained by the town to

2186
02:17:14,182 --> 02:17:16,642
develop a communications plan for the project and to assist

2187
02:17:16,642 --> 02:17:19,532
with implementation of the communications one

2188
02:17:19,532 --> 02:17:22,332
the town currently has a dedicated staff member working on

2189
02:17:22,332 --> 02:17:26,422
implementation of the project and ... will be looking to

2190
02:17:26,422 --> 02:17:28,872
add an additional temporary staff member in the near future

2191
02:17:28,872 --> 02:17:32,462
it's also assist with implementation of the action plan

2192
02:17:32,462 --> 02:17:36,642
lastly a planning consultants will be retained ... if required

2193
02:17:36,642 --> 02:17:38,862
to assist with the preparation of a new official plan

2194
02:17:38,862 --> 02:17:43,132
amendments owning bylaw amendment and or community a planning permit

2195
02:17:43,132 --> 02:17:47,192
system to establish shop land use planning policies and permissions

2196
02:17:47,652 --> 02:17:50,672
well developed development standards for the lands to be divested

2197
02:17:51,372 --> 02:17:54,512
within the action plan area and ... work on this

2198
02:17:54,512 --> 02:17:57,372
is targeted to start in approximately one year from now

2199
02:17:57,592 --> 02:18:02,092
in September two thousand and twenty three

2200
02:18:02,092 --> 02:18:05,622
moving on to milestone number two two which is project

2201
02:18:05,622 --> 02:18:08,072
initiation are

2202
02:18:08,072 --> 02:18:11,362
sorry project re initiation as many of you know around

2203
02:18:11,722 --> 02:18:14,932
the project was recently re initiated after nearly a three

2204
02:18:14,932 --> 02:18:18,622
year hiatus which was due in part to

2205
02:18:18,622 --> 02:18:21,012
some legal issues and also in part due to the

2206
02:18:21,012 --> 02:18:25,682
pandemic since the project has been not reinitiated

2207
02:18:25,682 --> 02:18:28,782
there's been several courts have been presented to council and

2208
02:18:28,782 --> 02:18:32,202
or will be presented to council are seeking direction on

2209
02:18:32,232 --> 02:18:34,912
on on moving the project forward so there was that

2210
02:18:35,352 --> 02:18:39,932
recently reporting June ... regarding the costing and financial information

2211
02:18:39,932 --> 02:18:42,552
related to divested sure of the road allowance lands within

2212
02:18:42,552 --> 02:18:44,482
the action plan

2213
02:18:44,482 --> 02:18:47,002
some of the reports that are before you today with

2214
02:18:47,002 --> 02:18:50,582
respect to implementation of the action plan now relative to

2215
02:18:50,582 --> 02:18:54,302
the residential properties as well as the beach associations and

2216
02:18:54,302 --> 02:18:58,062
lastly there may be an additional report council September and

2217
02:18:58,062 --> 02:19:02,132
September pending direction from council today regarding a potential inter

2218
02:19:02,132 --> 02:19:06,182
policy and I will be discussing men's Interpol's in greater

2219
02:19:06,182 --> 02:19:11,362
detail later on in my presentation

2220
02:19:11,362 --> 02:19:15,142
moving on to milestone number three which is the current

2221
02:19:15,142 --> 02:19:19,542
state analysis ... or work on this milestone is currently

2222
02:19:19,572 --> 02:19:22,312
under way having started in June of this year in

2223
02:19:22,312 --> 02:19:25,452
the schedule to be completed by December of this year

2224
02:19:26,132 --> 02:19:30,332
and essentially the currency analysis ... includes a compilation of

2225
02:19:30,332 --> 02:19:33,842
the findings of past legal investigations and title search searches

2226
02:19:33,842 --> 02:19:36,942
that have completed have been completed by the town and

2227
02:19:36,942 --> 02:19:39,932
compiling them and in the database the town down database

2228
02:19:39,932 --> 02:19:42,792
and map to provide a general understanding of who owns

2229
02:19:42,792 --> 02:19:47,432
what are along lake drive within the action plan

2230
02:19:47,432 --> 02:19:49,712
and I and it's based on the information that the

2231
02:19:49,712 --> 02:19:52,652
Town presently has today and and I want to clarify

2232
02:19:52,652 --> 02:19:55,002
that it's not intended to be a comprehensive you are

2233
02:19:55,002 --> 02:19:58,932
picture of who owns what um within the action plan

2234
02:19:58,932 --> 02:20:02,012
area but it is certainly ... a good start again

2235
02:20:02,012 --> 02:20:04,602
based on the information the town presently has today and

2236
02:20:04,602 --> 02:20:06,952
it's certainly a database that the town to continue to

2237
02:20:06,952 --> 02:20:10,882
build on as we progress and move forward with the

2238
02:20:10,882 --> 02:20:15,312
implementation of the action plan and data for your information

2239
02:20:15,312 --> 02:20:19,372
... the the information at the present time presently has

2240
02:20:19,372 --> 02:20:22,212
an armed with respect to title searches and non legal

2241
02:20:22,212 --> 02:20:26,052
investigations those are typically completed when a property owner is

2242
02:20:26,052 --> 02:20:29,942
proposing now works on the sidelines and comments and or

2243
02:20:29,942 --> 02:20:36,302
approval is required by the town

2244
02:20:36,302 --> 02:20:40,722
moving on to milestone number four which is the identification

2245
02:20:40,722 --> 02:20:43,412
of land and easements to be retained by the town

2246
02:20:43,812 --> 02:20:47,872
as well as the identification of eligible property owners so

2247
02:20:47,872 --> 02:20:51,212
work on this milestone is expected to begin in September

2248
02:20:51,212 --> 02:20:55,052
of this year and ... we're targeting completion and in

2249
02:20:55,052 --> 02:20:57,122
January of next year

2250
02:20:57,122 --> 02:21:00,572
and once this milestone is complete the town will be

2251
02:21:00,572 --> 02:21:04,312
able to determine which lands or to be retained ...

2252
02:21:04,572 --> 02:21:08,622
and which plants operating surplus and can be divested the

2253
02:21:08,622 --> 02:21:10,962
town will also be able to determine where encroachment agreements

2254
02:21:10,962 --> 02:21:15,392
and easements are required ... we will identify the eligible

2255
02:21:15,392 --> 02:21:18,982
property owners of the owners of property owners who are

2256
02:21:18,982 --> 02:21:21,732
eligible to participate me action plan if they wish to

2257
02:21:21,732 --> 02:21:23,202
do so

2258
02:21:23,202 --> 02:21:26,102
and it is noted that ... eligible property owners may

2259
02:21:26,102 --> 02:21:29,652
include properties with property pens ... or sorry with pocket

2260
02:21:29,652 --> 02:21:33,522
pins and land disputes which will require route resolution as

2261
02:21:33,522 --> 02:21:36,822
we move forward with implementation of the actual plan

2262
02:21:36,822 --> 02:21:39,452
and ... I just wanted to clarify that properties with

2263
02:21:39,452 --> 02:21:43,142
property or with pocket can sorry have more than one

2264
02:21:43,142 --> 02:21:46,942
entered shown on land registry records as having an interest

2265
02:21:46,942 --> 02:21:50,052
in the lands

2266
02:21:50,052 --> 02:21:54,212
so continuing on with some milestone number four on this

2267
02:21:54,212 --> 02:21:57,092
type of work on this moment milestone will also includes

2268
02:21:57,122 --> 02:22:00,442
our reporting up to council for information and direction on

2269
02:22:00,442 --> 02:22:04,512
a number of matters including the lands that are to

2270
02:22:04,512 --> 02:22:07,002
be retained diverse is that the lands that Tom are

2271
02:22:07,002 --> 02:22:10,962
surplus and can be divested wasabi reporting up to council

2272
02:22:10,962 --> 02:22:14,622
after information and direction on possible approaches for dealing with

2273
02:22:14,622 --> 02:22:19,152
that different ownership scenarios such as occupants in crown lands

2274
02:22:19,152 --> 02:22:22,762
our reporting up to council for direction on ... information

2275
02:22:22,762 --> 02:22:28,182
on details and direction on whether council feels additional

2276
02:22:28,182 --> 02:22:31,482
those are other should be included as he kills potential

2277
02:22:31,482 --> 02:22:35,802
financial option options for intercity PO's and whether deposit should

2278
02:22:35,802 --> 02:22:39,322
be collected also be looking down at to provide council

2279
02:22:39,322 --> 02:22:42,122
with information and direction on that and ... lastly will

2280
02:22:42,122 --> 02:22:48,172
also be providing an update on the project schedule

2281
02:22:48,172 --> 02:22:51,932
milestone number five in the project schedule is gauging interest

2282
02:22:51,932 --> 02:22:55,332
from the appeals so once we bomb reported up to

2283
02:22:55,332 --> 02:22:59,272
council ani peels and and I received direction on that

2284
02:22:59,362 --> 02:23:04,342
... sampled and consult with the PO's arm you know

2285
02:23:04,372 --> 02:23:07,602
are providing them with information on the projects and dining

2286
02:23:07,602 --> 02:23:12,282
possible on next steps once the consultation has taken place

2287
02:23:12,312 --> 02:23:14,952
on notices will be sent out to the eligible property

2288
02:23:14,952 --> 02:23:19,192
owners to determine which ones are interested in participating in

2289
02:23:19,192 --> 02:23:22,122
the action plan ...

2290
02:23:22,122 --> 02:23:25,082
once there of the responses from the EPA also received

2291
02:23:25,082 --> 02:23:29,392
staff report out to council ... and and seek directions

2292
02:23:29,602 --> 02:23:33,462
for example if from the response rate is low ...

2293
02:23:33,602 --> 02:23:36,922
you know council may decide to end the process

2294
02:23:36,922 --> 02:23:40,872
or conversely if if the responses ... you know rather

2295
02:23:40,872 --> 02:23:44,632
healthy and and high ... of the council may decide

2296
02:23:44,632 --> 02:23:47,912
to our direct staff to move forward with the next

2297
02:23:47,912 --> 02:23:52,862
down while still and ... also as part of this

2298
02:23:52,892 --> 02:23:55,552
the some monster number five staff will be reporting up

2299
02:23:55,552 --> 02:23:59,022
to council possible approaches for dealing with ownership title and

2300
02:23:59,022 --> 02:24:02,712
lockdown disputes and again also providing an update on the

2301
02:24:02,712 --> 02:24:07,942
... schedule

2302
02:24:07,942 --> 02:24:11,122
milestone not number 6 remaining

2303
02:24:11,122 --> 02:24:14,302
and this is the anticipated take place between not July

2304
02:24:14,302 --> 02:24:16,842
two thousand and twenty three

2305
02:24:16,842 --> 02:24:20,792
in September two thousand and twenty five and again assuming

2306
02:24:20,792 --> 02:24:24,502
after we've reported out to to council on the previous

2307
02:24:24,502 --> 02:24:28,732
milestone with respect to the PO's ... S. ing council

2308
02:24:28,732 --> 02:24:31,992
has directed that staff move forward we will do so

2309
02:24:31,992 --> 02:24:36,972
by issuing an RFP for the surveying works ...

2310
02:24:36,972 --> 02:24:41,042
awarding ... the contract must serve being will likely be

2311
02:24:41,042 --> 02:24:44,332
completed in phases however the details of facing planner of

2312
02:24:44,332 --> 02:24:47,502
course yeah you have to be determined and ... the

2313
02:24:47,502 --> 02:24:51,992
serving works will identify amongst other things the town owned

2314
02:24:51,992 --> 02:24:55,282
road allowance lands as well as land and title or

2315
02:24:55,282 --> 02:25:00,042
land boundary disputes that require resolution ... as we move

2316
02:25:00,042 --> 02:25:05,172
forward

2317
02:25:05,172 --> 02:25:09,392
milestone on number seven retains to the planning process for

2318
02:25:09,392 --> 02:25:14,222
establishing new land use policies are permissions and development standards

2319
02:25:14,222 --> 02:25:16,812
for the lakeside masturbator Bastin

2320
02:25:16,812 --> 02:25:20,552
all rights are scheduled to take place between September two

2321
02:25:20,552 --> 02:25:23,362
thousand and twenty three and December two thousand and twenty

2322
02:25:23,362 --> 02:25:25,232
four

2323
02:25:25,232 --> 02:25:29,362
and on this slide here provides you know ... three

2324
02:25:29,362 --> 02:25:33,472
very high level actions for this milestone including ... you

2325
02:25:33,472 --> 02:25:37,972
know ... staff conducting background research and consultation with stakeholders

2326
02:25:37,972 --> 02:25:41,652
to inform potential new land use permissions and development standards

2327
02:25:42,072 --> 02:25:44,572
for the lakeside lands to be divested

2328
02:25:44,572 --> 02:25:47,682
ask for a public meeting global lime also be held

2329
02:25:47,682 --> 02:25:50,712
as required by the planning act and ... lastly a

2330
02:25:50,712 --> 02:25:54,802
recommendation report will be presented to council for approval of

2331
02:25:54,802 --> 02:25:58,412
the new ... our official plan amendment zoning bylaw amendment

2332
02:25:58,442 --> 02:26:01,602
and our community planning permit system

2333
02:26:01,602 --> 02:26:03,562
and as I said these are very high level actions

2334
02:26:03,562 --> 02:26:08,542
pertaining to this milestone there likely be additional land detailed

2335
02:26:08,542 --> 02:26:11,192
actions and steps that will take place in between the

2336
02:26:11,192 --> 02:26:13,972
such as reporting out to council first for information and

2337
02:26:13,972 --> 02:26:17,692
directions

2338
02:26:17,692 --> 02:26:20,922
milestone number 8 on

2339
02:26:20,922 --> 02:26:24,942
road closure by less so and this isn't the place

2340
02:26:24,942 --> 02:26:28,812
after the official plan amendment I'm Tony bylaw amendment and

2341
02:26:28,812 --> 02:26:33,792
community planning permits system and ... as approved by council

2342
02:26:34,132 --> 02:26:38,412
so one between December two thousand twenty for an October

2343
02:26:38,972 --> 02:26:42,002
two thousand twenty five

2344
02:26:42,002 --> 02:26:44,802
once the the planning approvals are in place staff will

2345
02:26:44,802 --> 02:26:48,262
bring forward the proposed bylaws for council approval but I

2346
02:26:48,262 --> 02:26:49,992
would I would like to point out that if there

2347
02:26:49,992 --> 02:26:54,512
are any appeals to the planning approvals that sound this

2348
02:26:54,512 --> 02:26:58,692
will allow more certainly delayed the process ... as the

2349
02:26:58,692 --> 02:27:01,782
road closure bylaws and transfer lots will not take place

2350
02:27:01,782 --> 02:27:05,132
until the appeals are fully result

2351
02:27:05,132 --> 02:27:08,232
and that takes me to the last milestone the project

2352
02:27:08,232 --> 02:27:10,502
schedule which is not a transfer of ownership of new

2353
02:27:10,532 --> 02:27:15,822
lakeside lots ... and ... you know ... these the

2354
02:27:15,822 --> 02:27:19,072
lakeside lands will be transferred or lots to be eligible

2355
02:27:19,072 --> 02:27:22,242
property owners and any necessary agreements will be executed at

2356
02:27:22,492 --> 02:27:26,662
as well as any on fees collected as as required

2357
02:27:26,662 --> 02:27:30,042
so with respect to our report number one D. asked

2358
02:27:30,042 --> 02:27:33,822
two thousand and twenty two dash sixty nine there are

2359
02:27:33,822 --> 02:27:38,162
two recommendations with respect to the project schedule residential properties

2360
02:27:38,162 --> 02:27:42,082
the first star recommendations that council received a staff report

2361
02:27:42,082 --> 02:27:45,282
and the second recommendation is that council endorsed the project

2362
02:27:45,282 --> 02:27:48,992
schedule for implementation of the operational policy stops in the

2363
02:27:48,992 --> 02:27:56,472
action plan for residential indirect water front properties

2364
02:27:56,472 --> 02:28:00,432
so moving on this next slide

2365
02:28:00,432 --> 02:28:04,222
thirteen sphere with the second report DS two thousand and

2366
02:28:04,222 --> 02:28:08,492
twenty two dash seventy which US president to implementation of

2367
02:28:08,492 --> 02:28:11,602
the action plan for beach associations

2368
02:28:11,602 --> 02:28:14,152
so policy step number twelve in the action plan is

2369
02:28:14,152 --> 02:28:16,332
up on on this slide here as you can see

2370
02:28:16,332 --> 02:28:20,772
year and at least ... requires the town to establish

2371
02:28:20,772 --> 02:28:24,412
a policy on how to deal with a situation where

2372
02:28:24,482 --> 02:28:27,992
situations were associations with numerous members want to make use

2373
02:28:27,992 --> 02:28:29,262
of

2374
02:28:29,262 --> 02:28:32,402
you know what parcel of land or situations where there's

2375
02:28:32,552 --> 02:28:36,012
more than one individual who has an and would like

2376
02:28:36,012 --> 02:28:39,302
to make use of up one lot ... and I'd

2377
02:28:39,362 --> 02:28:43,092
just like to point out ... in in implementing the

2378
02:28:43,092 --> 02:28:45,872
action plan ...

2379
02:28:45,872 --> 02:28:48,372
for a relative to beach associations the town is only

2380
02:28:48,372 --> 02:28:57,352
interested in beach associations on town owned lands

2381
02:28:57,352 --> 02:29:00,032
with respect to next steps for beach associations in order

2382
02:29:00,032 --> 02:29:03,462
for staff to be able to develop a project schedule

2383
02:29:03,462 --> 02:29:06,632
for implementation of the action plan more information is needed

2384
02:29:07,092 --> 02:29:11,382
information information such as ... the number and location of

2385
02:29:11,382 --> 02:29:14,722
each associations within the action plan area including any eye

2386
02:29:14,722 --> 02:29:18,172
contact information and whether again whether we need to know

2387
02:29:18,172 --> 02:29:21,582
whether there are located on town owned lands are not

2388
02:29:21,582 --> 02:29:23,682
because the town's only interested in in dealing with those

2389
02:29:23,682 --> 02:29:26,612
that are on town lands I'd also be very helpful

2390
02:29:26,612 --> 02:29:29,422
to know with these beach associations are legally registered Earth

2391
02:29:29,422 --> 02:29:34,182
Day ... you exist as legal entities so ... with

2392
02:29:34,182 --> 02:29:36,972
respect to the second report there it used to staff

2393
02:29:36,972 --> 02:29:40,442
recommendations the first one being that council received a report

2394
02:29:40,912 --> 02:29:43,622
and the second recommendation is that staff report back to

2395
02:29:43,622 --> 02:29:47,742
council with that project schedule and any budgetary needs for

2396
02:29:47,742 --> 02:29:52,002
implementation of the action plan ... relative to beach associations

2397
02:29:52,002 --> 02:29:55,382
by Q. one next year

2398
02:29:55,382 --> 02:29:57,642
and this will just gonna you know give staff some

2399
02:29:57,952 --> 02:30:00,812
time to to do the additional research that they need

2400
02:30:01,092 --> 02:30:04,352
to do

2401
02:30:04,352 --> 02:30:08,622
the next part of my presentation on X. share route

2402
02:30:08,652 --> 02:30:13,912
an intern policy that staff is recommending that council consider

2403
02:30:14,502 --> 02:30:19,362
and ... yeah staff is recommending this recommendation because presently

2404
02:30:19,362 --> 02:30:22,232
we'd we do receive a number of requests for approvals

2405
02:30:22,232 --> 02:30:23,882
and comments

2406
02:30:23,882 --> 02:30:27,242
those works only side lands within the action plan

2407
02:30:27,242 --> 02:30:31,632
on these types of works typically ... either it detects

2408
02:30:31,632 --> 02:30:35,052
the works that property owners typically seek to undertake ...

2409
02:30:35,082 --> 02:30:40,332
very but ... generally it relates to Roshen control medication

2410
02:30:40,332 --> 02:30:43,732
more are there either looking to where they were they're

2411
02:30:43,732 --> 02:30:47,482
looking to construct a new structure building ... repair to

2412
02:30:47,482 --> 02:30:51,612
an existing structure building ... just also cases where repairs

2413
02:30:51,612 --> 02:30:55,042
to existing buildings and structures are more of an emergency

2414
02:30:55,042 --> 02:30:58,082
in as they posed a safety hazard so there's a

2415
02:30:58,082 --> 02:31:00,152
number of different ...

2416
02:31:00,152 --> 02:31:03,942
scenarios in which ... property owners are seeking to undertake

2417
02:31:03,942 --> 02:31:07,782
works on their lakeside lands and and staff are recommending

2418
02:31:07,782 --> 02:31:11,792
that council consider a policy to allow ... certain works

2419
02:31:11,792 --> 02:31:15,492
to take place on lakeside lands subject to certain conditions

2420
02:31:16,062 --> 02:31:19,332
while ... we work on implementation of the action plan

2421
02:31:19,332 --> 02:31:21,882
and as I said you know it got to three

2422
02:31:21,882 --> 02:31:26,492
years ... before we complete implementation of the plan and

2423
02:31:26,522 --> 02:31:30,212
such a ... an example of a of what the

2424
02:31:30,212 --> 02:31:33,832
... Interpol secret Intel for example would be that no

2425
02:31:33,952 --> 02:31:39,092
motion control works ... and perhaps repairs to existing structures

2426
02:31:39,092 --> 02:31:43,392
a pool safety hazard ... perhaps they can take place

2427
02:31:43,422 --> 02:31:47,002
... without the need to prove ownership of the lakeside

2428
02:31:47,002 --> 02:31:50,322
lands and conversely ... you know if if the property

2429
02:31:50,322 --> 02:31:52,512
owners looking to build a new structure such as a

2430
02:31:52,512 --> 02:31:57,512
boat house or whatever the case may be on it

2431
02:31:57,512 --> 02:32:00,632
in those cases perhaps they do need to provide proof

2432
02:32:00,942 --> 02:32:04,802
of sole ownership clearance ownership and again these are just

2433
02:32:04,802 --> 02:32:08,462
examples of what the internal policy could potentially look like

2434
02:32:09,122 --> 02:32:13,102
and so ... the recommendation in the first report is

2435
02:32:13,102 --> 02:32:18,182
that some that staff report back to council in September

2436
02:32:18,682 --> 02:32:27,402
with staff a new term policy for council's consideration

2437
02:32:27,402 --> 02:32:31,912
the last part of my presentation

2438
02:32:31,912 --> 02:32:34,912
deals with a proposed revision to the term lakeside lands

2439
02:32:34,912 --> 02:32:36,642
in action plan

2440
02:32:36,642 --> 02:32:40,082
and so this proposed revision ... is in response to

2441
02:32:40,082 --> 02:32:45,012
comments on the discussion at being the June twenty second

2442
02:32:45,012 --> 02:32:48,142
council meeting and so the purpose of the the revised

2443
02:32:48,142 --> 02:32:51,622
definitions to clarify that the action plan will only deal

2444
02:32:51,622 --> 02:32:54,342
with the portion of the lake silence of the town

2445
02:32:54,342 --> 02:32:58,012
homes and the purpose proposed revision is down that's up

2446
02:32:58,012 --> 02:33:00,932
on the screen before you are it is as follows

2447
02:33:00,962 --> 02:33:04,222
so the lakeside lands means lands owned by the town

2448
02:33:04,382 --> 02:33:07,882
that are situated between the shoreline and the travel portion

2449
02:33:07,882 --> 02:33:09,932
of the road allowance

2450
02:33:09,932 --> 02:33:13,212
and presently the definition of that term any action plan

2451
02:33:13,212 --> 02:33:17,512
is as follows meetings the lands from the shoreline the

2452
02:33:17,512 --> 02:33:21,052
travel portion of the road allowance you can see on

2453
02:33:21,112 --> 02:33:24,152
you know what the difference in the two

2454
02:33:24,152 --> 02:33:28,272
definitions of revision was done need it ... we'll be

2455
02:33:28,272 --> 02:33:30,222
getting you know just to be clear that if we're

2456
02:33:30,222 --> 02:33:33,832
only dealing with the town ... portion of the lakeside

2457
02:33:33,832 --> 02:33:37,322
landscape and that there could potentially be other owners or

2458
02:33:37,322 --> 02:33:39,982
types of ownerships

2459
02:33:39,982 --> 02:33:42,732
between the shoreline and the travel portion of the road

2460
02:33:42,732 --> 02:33:46,452
for example are could be criminal lands or even potentially

2461
02:33:46,452 --> 02:33:49,792
I think the one land so ... the recommendation and

2462
02:33:49,822 --> 02:33:52,342
in the the first after port

2463
02:33:52,342 --> 02:33:55,912
related to this item this matter is that council approve

2464
02:33:56,312 --> 02:34:00,972
the revised ... definition of the term lakeside lands in

2465
02:34:00,972 --> 02:34:04,702
the action plan

2466
02:34:04,702 --> 02:34:08,202
and that concludes my presentation Madame Kirk and members of

2467
02:34:08,202 --> 02:34:10,592
council I hope you found it helpful and Sam thank

2468
02:34:10,592 --> 02:34:12,332
you very much

2469
02:34:12,332 --> 02:34:14,602
thank you and that was a given that was a

2470
02:34:14,602 --> 02:34:18,972
very good report laid out quite quite well ... are

2471
02:34:18,972 --> 02:34:22,762
there questions from members of council ... let's try to

2472
02:34:22,762 --> 02:34:25,272
take it one chunk at a time maybe the the

2473
02:34:25,272 --> 02:34:29,292
first ... questions on on the first part of the

2474
02:34:29,292 --> 02:34:32,732
presentation for report

2475
02:34:32,732 --> 02:34:36,352
G. and then if somebody has you know question on

2476
02:34:36,352 --> 02:34:40,762
not then we'll take questions on on report H. ...

2477
02:34:40,952 --> 02:34:45,932
the the beach association report and then any questions on

2478
02:34:45,932 --> 02:34:49,902
the N. term policy and then questions on the revision

2479
02:34:50,152 --> 02:34:55,222
to the definition so questions on the first report on

2480
02:34:55,222 --> 02:35:00,102
report G. on the the schedule that has been suggested

2481
02:35:00,602 --> 02:35:03,202
are there any questions on that

2482
02:35:03,202 --> 02:35:05,652
I don't see any hands went up for that one

2483
02:35:06,322 --> 02:35:11,502
are there questions on the ... beach association report and

2484
02:35:11,502 --> 02:35:16,052
the recommendation for about one that some

2485
02:35:16,052 --> 02:35:18,552
staff report back in Q. one of twenty twenty three

2486
02:35:18,552 --> 02:35:22,102
with the project schedule and any budgetary needs respecting the

2487
02:35:22,102 --> 02:35:27,412
implementation ... an operational Polish steps for the lake drive

2488
02:35:27,832 --> 02:35:31,862
shoreline jurisdiction action plan for beach associations are there any

2489
02:35:31,862 --> 02:35:37,212
questions on that councillor Waddington's

2490
02:35:37,212 --> 02:35:40,392
three about America to enter simply because we're talking about

2491
02:35:40,392 --> 02:35:41,972
both reports at the same time right now can I

2492
02:35:41,972 --> 02:35:44,482
just get clarification that if the definition does change in

2493
02:35:44,482 --> 02:35:46,962
the first report that the documentation the second work it's

2494
02:35:46,962 --> 02:35:51,152
up in a

2495
02:35:51,152 --> 02:35:54,722
thank you councillor Wellington Washington and ... your you are

2496
02:35:54,722 --> 02:35:58,982
correct correct we can certainly add that recommendation you're not

2497
02:35:58,982 --> 02:36:02,952
alone the updated action plan with the new definition added

2498
02:36:02,952 --> 02:36:05,992
to the second report

2499
02:36:05,992 --> 02:36:09,942
thank you Pritchett okay any other questions on the beach

2500
02:36:09,942 --> 02:36:12,222
association one

2501
02:36:12,222 --> 02:36:15,122
okay questions on the

2502
02:36:15,122 --> 02:36:20,692
our internal policy for indirect properties water front properties on

2503
02:36:20,692 --> 02:36:23,412
the lake drive shoreline jurisdiction to allow certain works to

2504
02:36:23,412 --> 02:36:27,222
proceed on lakeside land subject to certain conditions prior to

2505
02:36:27,222 --> 02:36:29,572
the completion of the action plan so this would come

2506
02:36:29,572 --> 02:36:33,912
back to us in September as an intern policy ...

2507
02:36:33,912 --> 02:36:36,642
for that purpose councillor wanted to note I see your

2508
02:36:36,642 --> 02:36:38,522
hand up

2509
02:36:38,522 --> 02:36:40,992
yes ma'am thank you through Medicare to a and again

2510
02:36:41,022 --> 02:36:43,372
do we have any indication or idea as to how

2511
02:36:43,372 --> 02:36:45,242
many

2512
02:36:45,242 --> 02:36:48,562
properties are property owners would currently be and cute to

2513
02:36:48,562 --> 02:36:54,902
help those affected

2514
02:36:54,902 --> 02:36:57,832
through you madam mayor out that's a great question councillor

2515
02:36:57,832 --> 02:37:03,212
Waddington ... I based on my estimation ... we received

2516
02:37:03,212 --> 02:37:06,602
probably I'd say between

2517
02:37:06,602 --> 02:37:09,872
but a handful of five different request that a week

2518
02:37:09,972 --> 02:37:13,162
I think I'm an and but that's based on this

2519
02:37:13,162 --> 02:37:15,802
time of year I am I am sure probably fluctuate

2520
02:37:15,802 --> 02:37:18,832
some very different time of the year but the thing

2521
02:37:18,832 --> 02:37:22,632
construction season we would seek receivables between three to five

2522
02:37:22,632 --> 02:37:26,072
request a week year round

2523
02:37:26,072 --> 02:37:28,812
for from property owners who wish to undertake a works

2524
02:37:28,812 --> 02:37:31,852
on their lakeside lands okay so ... just as a

2525
02:37:31,852 --> 02:37:33,672
follow up their three in America to a and a

2526
02:37:33,712 --> 02:37:36,802
safe to say that as soon as this is implemented

2527
02:37:36,802 --> 02:37:39,312
that there's likely dozens if not more people that are

2528
02:37:39,312 --> 02:37:43,552
gonna see relief from being able to move at

2529
02:37:43,552 --> 02:37:46,032
see relief from being able to move on sorry I'm

2530
02:37:46,032 --> 02:37:48,902
not sure and the band with the Interpol see going

2531
02:37:48,902 --> 02:37:51,052
through ...

2532
02:37:51,052 --> 02:37:55,522
it's obviously subject to certain conditions prior to completion

2533
02:37:55,522 --> 02:37:59,102
people who will be able to make adjustments to work

2534
02:37:59,102 --> 02:38:02,522
on these lands are we expect in dozens of people

2535
02:38:02,522 --> 02:38:06,322
to want to move forward with us

2536
02:38:06,322 --> 02:38:10,802
thank you Madame mum Mayor at that site difficult question

2537
02:38:10,802 --> 02:38:12,932
for me to understand for me do asked me now

2538
02:38:12,932 --> 02:38:14,882
I'm not sure I can I can answer that question

2539
02:38:14,882 --> 02:38:17,452
in the middle ... the what you're asking is if

2540
02:38:17,452 --> 02:38:20,942
if we approve such as a policy within that open

2541
02:38:20,942 --> 02:38:23,622
the doors and the floodgates tell these people money to

2542
02:38:23,622 --> 02:38:26,702
come in and and complete the works ... good question

2543
02:38:26,702 --> 02:38:28,222
I'm not sure how many answers to that but I

2544
02:38:28,222 --> 02:38:30,722
see John hurt's guys can yes Mr hardest put his

2545
02:38:30,912 --> 02:38:34,802
screen on so Mr harden Jack comment Madame mayor through

2546
02:38:34,802 --> 02:38:38,582
you to cancer Waddington ... the infirm policy that's being

2547
02:38:38,582 --> 02:38:42,632
developed out will be a tight end from policy that

2548
02:38:42,632 --> 02:38:47,112
will not to open the proverbial floodgates to applications a

2549
02:38:47,112 --> 02:38:50,342
person's coming in who want to help ordinary work done

2550
02:38:50,342 --> 02:38:53,562
will lot will be required to show ownership the end

2551
02:38:53,562 --> 02:38:58,192
from policy exist for rapper merging she situations and other

2552
02:38:58,192 --> 02:39:03,512
situations where Russia as special circumstances are required so it's

2553
02:39:03,512 --> 02:39:07,532
not anticipated that the flood gates will be opened

2554
02:39:07,532 --> 02:39:10,582
thanks Brigitte corporation okay

2555
02:39:10,582 --> 02:39:12,862
I think I saw councillor Fellini with his hand up

2556
02:39:12,862 --> 02:39:15,292
and then councillor Sybil

2557
02:39:15,292 --> 02:39:17,322
thank you Madame where ... I just wanna make a

2558
02:39:17,322 --> 02:39:20,052
quick call if we look at

2559
02:39:20,052 --> 02:39:24,372
it just depend providers or H. one forty in the

2560
02:39:24,372 --> 02:39:27,352
second paragraph it says

2561
02:39:27,352 --> 02:39:31,312
or maybe process to council 9/20/22

2562
02:39:31,312 --> 02:39:33,352
for council's consideration

2563
02:39:33,352 --> 02:39:36,392
I believe that we should first focus you that report

2564
02:39:36,652 --> 02:39:40,502
because it deals with your inclusion of corrosion control medication

2565
02:39:40,692 --> 02:39:45,362
measures it works obviously potential life safety hazards

2566
02:39:45,362 --> 02:39:46,802
I believe we should take care of that because if

2567
02:39:46,802 --> 02:39:50,772
not we are liable that's not appropriate

2568
02:39:50,772 --> 02:39:54,682
so that's where the ... direction is needed and recommendation

2569
02:39:55,222 --> 02:39:58,692
three so if we do give direction then and yes

2570
02:39:58,692 --> 02:40:01,692
there will be a report in September I agree there

2571
02:40:01,692 --> 02:40:05,302
needs to be ... that ability in those some cases

2572
02:40:05,302 --> 02:40:07,002
that

2573
02:40:07,002 --> 02:40:11,282
you know erosion emergency control safety concerns that there needs

2574
02:40:11,282 --> 02:40:14,132
to be a policy in place so that would be

2575
02:40:14,132 --> 02:40:16,242
part of the direction that we were given the report

2576
02:40:16,242 --> 02:40:19,942
would come in September ... concert Siebel thank you had

2577
02:40:19,942 --> 02:40:21,102
your hand

2578
02:40:21,102 --> 02:40:23,232
thank you through Medicare just a quick question with regard

2579
02:40:23,232 --> 02:40:26,292
to the in term policy ... in and listen to

2580
02:40:26,292 --> 02:40:29,302
the discussion and thinking about the matter I'm wondering if

2581
02:40:29,302 --> 02:40:31,542
there may not be instances where the town wants to

2582
02:40:31,542 --> 02:40:35,052
do some work on the lakeside

2583
02:40:35,052 --> 02:40:37,672
to do exactly the things we talk about erosion control

2584
02:40:37,672 --> 02:40:40,262
and ends and things to improve safety so I just

2585
02:40:40,262 --> 02:40:45,062
wondered if Anna could speak to that at all

2586
02:40:45,062 --> 02:40:52,092
any comment in a

2587
02:40:52,092 --> 02:40:54,482
through you madam mayor I am I am I'm not

2588
02:40:54,482 --> 02:40:56,612
sure can answer that question I'm I'm sure there might

2589
02:40:56,612 --> 02:41:00,102
be instances where the town homes ...

2590
02:41:00,102 --> 02:41:02,962
some lance

2591
02:41:02,962 --> 02:41:05,602
John and John John and and John that have put

2592
02:41:05,602 --> 02:41:08,152
their screens on so either one of you two gentlemen

2593
02:41:08,152 --> 02:41:10,692
maybe Mr asking you wanna make a comment thank you

2594
02:41:10,692 --> 02:41:14,202
Amerisur you to ... councillor Cibo ... that's a good

2595
02:41:14,202 --> 02:41:19,412
question ... we can consult on that internally and address

2596
02:41:19,412 --> 02:41:23,782
that in the September report she council ask for that

2597
02:41:23,782 --> 02:41:26,332
to come back in September

2598
02:41:26,332 --> 02:41:28,122
okay

2599
02:41:28,122 --> 02:41:33,182
further questions or comments from members of council

2600
02:41:33,182 --> 02:41:37,052
okay so the recommendation on the for the first report

2601
02:41:37,052 --> 02:41:40,792
is to receive certain route from here to receive the

2602
02:41:40,792 --> 02:41:45,912
report and council endorsed the project schedule and that we're

2603
02:41:45,912 --> 02:41:50,292
providing direction to yes Sir bring back up potential in

2604
02:41:50,292 --> 02:41:54,692
term policy for indirect waterfront property owners in September so

2605
02:41:54,692 --> 02:41:59,052
that server recommendation three and recommendation for approve the revision

2606
02:41:59,052 --> 02:42:01,612
to the definition of lakeside lands

2607
02:42:01,612 --> 02:42:03,612
do I have a mover in a second ... for

2608
02:42:03,612 --> 02:42:07,662
that moved by councillor Washington seconded by councillor Fellini

2609
02:42:07,662 --> 02:42:11,792
questions or comments councillor Waddington

2610
02:42:11,792 --> 02:42:14,322
that's when we're through you enter with Kurtz to recommendations

2611
02:42:14,322 --> 02:42:16,712
for with the ... the revision of the definition of

2612
02:42:16,712 --> 02:42:18,912
lakeside lance firstly thank you very much for a for

2613
02:42:18,912 --> 02:42:22,982
getting that done ... are we or do we have

2614
02:42:22,982 --> 02:42:27,082
a means to either update past documentations that show the

2615
02:42:27,082 --> 02:42:30,892
old ... definition or at least make notification when people

2616
02:42:30,892 --> 02:42:35,592
are going through ... you know years of documents where

2617
02:42:35,792 --> 02:42:38,842
the goal post is kind of changed since the original

2618
02:42:38,842 --> 02:42:42,202
definition was ... was created just so that anybody who's

2619
02:42:42,202 --> 02:42:46,102
going through many many years of documents understands that that

2620
02:42:46,102 --> 02:42:49,852
definition actually was changed from what it originally was

2621
02:42:49,852 --> 02:42:52,122
how do we make sure that's communicated properly it's a

2622
02:42:52,122 --> 02:42:55,902
good question and over an hour Shawn

2623
02:42:55,902 --> 02:42:58,892
when it's on our website how do we

2624
02:42:58,892 --> 02:43:00,262
how do we do that you can't go back in

2625
02:43:00,262 --> 02:43:03,142
history but how do we make sure that going forward

2626
02:43:03,142 --> 02:43:05,102
people understand

2627
02:43:05,102 --> 02:43:08,772
it is a good point that Americans are town council

2628
02:43:08,772 --> 02:43:11,322
wanted change we can definitely do that will review everything

2629
02:43:11,322 --> 02:43:13,712
that's on the website I'm sure that there is appropriate

2630
02:43:13,712 --> 02:43:18,402
notations and appropriate notification of thank you that doesn't sound

2631
02:43:18,402 --> 02:43:19,842
like very much

2632
02:43:19,842 --> 02:43:23,172
okay so it's moved and seconded further questions or comments

2633
02:43:23,852 --> 02:43:26,962
all those in favor

2634
02:43:26,962 --> 02:43:29,592
... send that scary please note that regional council Rossi

2635
02:43:29,592 --> 02:43:32,302
did not participate in the discussion or in the vote

2636
02:43:32,332 --> 02:43:34,872
on this as he did did declare a conflict earlier

2637
02:43:34,872 --> 02:43:35,942
on

2638
02:43:35,942 --> 02:43:38,952
R. twelve H. is a lake drive shoreline jurisdiction action

2639
02:43:38,952 --> 02:43:42,902
plan schedule for beach associations recommendations are to receive the

2640
02:43:42,902 --> 02:43:46,422
report and just for staff report back in Q. one

2641
02:43:46,822 --> 02:43:50,162
of twenty twenty three regarding the plan for the beach

2642
02:43:50,162 --> 02:43:55,582
associations and I think he wanted to include job the

2643
02:43:56,212 --> 02:43:59,902
recognition for from the earlier so we'll let approve a

2644
02:43:59,902 --> 02:44:03,912
revision to the definition of lakeside lands included so that

2645
02:44:03,912 --> 02:44:05,932
the recommendation to reach out what you want to council

2646
02:44:05,932 --> 02:44:08,932
Washington that Medicare is soon is that to a previous

2647
02:44:08,932 --> 02:44:11,692
report went through in the definition was changed it it's

2648
02:44:11,692 --> 02:44:15,782
ME London okay it's just that in the actual

2649
02:44:15,782 --> 02:44:19,122
documents we've got the old definition at this point yeah

2650
02:44:19,152 --> 02:44:21,742
just like your if you carry it forward okay so

2651
02:44:21,742 --> 02:44:24,542
we just do the two recommendations are fine

2652
02:44:24,542 --> 02:44:26,532
okay so I need to move on a second ...

2653
02:44:26,532 --> 02:44:28,552
for for those

2654
02:44:28,552 --> 02:44:32,232
moved by council Pollini second by council Waddington questions or

2655
02:44:32,232 --> 02:44:33,962
comments

2656
02:44:33,962 --> 02:44:36,012
all those in favor

2657
02:44:36,012 --> 02:44:38,982
opposed and that's carried and again no please note the

2658
02:44:38,982 --> 02:44:42,012
regional council grassy did not participate in the discussion or

2659
02:44:42,012 --> 02:44:45,112
a vote on now that report as he did declare

2660
02:44:45,552 --> 02:44:49,132
a conflict Sir earlier in the meeting okay members of

2661
02:44:49,132 --> 02:44:51,772
council we can continue on with

2662
02:44:51,772 --> 02:44:57,532
our reports we're gonna reports of item thirteen disposition proclamations

2663
02:44:57,532 --> 02:45:01,572
general information items and committee of adjustment thirteen one a

2664
02:45:01,572 --> 02:45:05,712
is the reason of your requesting confirmation from local municipalities

2665
02:45:06,032 --> 02:45:08,752
of their position regarding the region assuming winter maintenance of

2666
02:45:08,752 --> 02:45:12,162
sidewalks adjacent to regional roads given the regional tax levy

2667
02:45:12,162 --> 02:45:15,622
implications by September thirtieth twenty twenty two in this is

2668
02:45:15,622 --> 02:45:17,062
on page

2669
02:45:17,062 --> 02:45:19,092
one fifty eight I don't know if Mr boss wants

2670
02:45:19,092 --> 02:45:22,652
to make any comments now

2671
02:45:22,652 --> 02:45:25,492
or we just want to refer this to

2672
02:45:25,492 --> 02:45:27,572
sorry it's one one eighty eight we want to refer

2673
02:45:27,572 --> 02:45:29,182
this to staff

2674
02:45:29,182 --> 02:45:33,392
for comments back to us prior to the September date

2675
02:45:33,862 --> 02:45:35,542
has wanted to do I see your hand up for

2676
02:45:35,542 --> 02:45:37,022
the question

2677
02:45:37,022 --> 02:45:39,462
hi yes ma'am but deferred Mr bosses come in on

2678
02:45:39,462 --> 02:45:44,692
... he can likely feel that okay Mister Ross

2679
02:45:44,692 --> 02:45:47,402
there is

2680
02:45:47,402 --> 02:45:50,812
3 monomer to Mr Voss M. one yeah

2681
02:45:50,812 --> 02:45:52,222
hit the nail on the head asking if this was

2682
02:45:52,222 --> 02:45:54,492
gonna be referred to staff and come back which I'm

2683
02:45:54,492 --> 02:45:59,362
I'm fully in favor of with regards to the sidewalk

2684
02:45:59,362 --> 02:46:03,062
maintenance or which maintenance by the region is it their

2685
02:46:03,062 --> 02:46:05,332
intention to have this is an all or nothing or

2686
02:46:05,332 --> 02:46:08,522
is there still gonna be certain areas where it's deemed

2687
02:46:08,522 --> 02:46:10,462
to more efficient for the town to deal with the

2688
02:46:10,462 --> 02:46:13,522
situation and the region to deal with another and that

2689
02:46:13,522 --> 02:46:15,442
simply in my ward I take a look at rape

2690
02:46:15,442 --> 02:46:21,512
issue and ... that is relatively small section of sidewalk

2691
02:46:21,512 --> 02:46:25,422
that's on the regional road by some Kelantan it would

2692
02:46:25,422 --> 02:46:28,462
be far cheaper for the town to deal with that

2693
02:46:28,462 --> 02:46:31,232
since we've already mobilized for that area versus out in

2694
02:46:31,262 --> 02:46:33,872
the region send somebody out to to do a stretch

2695
02:46:33,872 --> 02:46:37,362
of road that topic longer long

2696
02:46:37,362 --> 02:46:41,462
Mr Ross that's your Medicare counseling and ... that that

2697
02:46:41,462 --> 02:46:44,032
so that was the discussions that are happening so there's

2698
02:46:44,032 --> 02:46:46,902
actually a working group right now between

2699
02:46:46,902 --> 02:46:50,542
all of the York region municipalities and reach out to

2700
02:46:50,542 --> 02:46:55,512
discuss kind of those types of details ...

2701
02:46:55,512 --> 02:46:59,242
the short term goal as a result of the regional

2702
02:46:59,242 --> 02:47:04,442
report is to define where best to reach you can

2703
02:47:04,442 --> 02:47:09,052
support local municipalities where the weather stations snow storage specifically

2704
02:47:09,622 --> 02:47:11,822
so we talk about already mentioned there's there's quite a

2705
02:47:11,822 --> 02:47:14,532
large ditch there that can take majority in the snow

2706
02:47:14,532 --> 02:47:17,002
storage but if we look at the Queensway south for

2707
02:47:17,002 --> 02:47:22,052
example are there there is no offer between the curb

2708
02:47:22,772 --> 02:47:25,882
it's also a four lane road between the curb and

2709
02:47:25,882 --> 02:47:28,522
yeah most used apps and those are the areas of

2710
02:47:28,522 --> 02:47:31,022
the reasons look to try and stop or a bit

2711
02:47:31,082 --> 02:47:34,792
better ... in the short term

2712
02:47:34,792 --> 02:47:37,982
they are looking for feedback on on long term plans

2713
02:47:37,982 --> 02:47:42,052
to essentially provide that way to me service on all

2714
02:47:42,052 --> 02:47:46,082
regional roads however there is some concern and we will

2715
02:47:46,082 --> 02:47:49,842
provide to see back to council in the coming meetings

2716
02:47:50,302 --> 02:47:53,372
... with respect to kind of what you just indicated

2717
02:47:53,372 --> 02:47:56,972
there it would be somewhat cost prohibitive to set up

2718
02:47:57,012 --> 02:47:58,842
to probe to

2719
02:47:58,842 --> 02:48:01,512
I guess approved that type of change given that we

2720
02:48:01,512 --> 02:48:04,952
have the service already within the neighborhoods adjacent to those

2721
02:48:04,952 --> 02:48:08,982
roads not to mention the recent standard what might be

2722
02:48:08,982 --> 02:48:11,752
different than town set

2723
02:48:11,752 --> 02:48:14,612
and in that case you would have a different standard

2724
02:48:14,612 --> 02:48:17,522
standard on the same

2725
02:48:17,522 --> 02:48:20,002
network of sidewalks

2726
02:48:20,002 --> 02:48:22,752
what works from a from a local neighborhood you know

2727
02:48:22,752 --> 02:48:26,732
on to reach road I'm not also has potential I

2728
02:48:26,732 --> 02:48:32,842
guess ... for more opportunity for liability as well as

2729
02:48:32,842 --> 02:48:37,332
outlined in the regional or from June thirtieth

2730
02:48:37,332 --> 02:48:39,702
Mike thank you very much with regards to the of

2731
02:48:39,702 --> 02:48:42,192
the first comment about to send it to a stop

2732
02:48:42,292 --> 02:48:44,712
to come back the the deadline was September thirtieth the

2733
02:48:44,712 --> 02:48:47,312
we see the possibility of having a report come back

2734
02:48:47,312 --> 02:48:51,262
to council with more information and allow us to make

2735
02:48:51,262 --> 02:48:54,632
a decision on this prior to that date

2736
02:48:54,632 --> 02:48:56,952
three about a bear to council and let that stuff

2737
02:48:56,952 --> 02:49:00,102
might be intense that's it a bit of a bit

2738
02:49:00,102 --> 02:49:02,952
of a short window the turnaround however we have been

2739
02:49:02,952 --> 02:49:06,222
part of the working group but since

2740
02:49:06,222 --> 02:49:10,002
I would say since the after action review January seventeenth

2741
02:49:10,002 --> 02:49:12,552
it's definitely been a hot topic in

2742
02:49:12,552 --> 02:49:15,902
... fortunate that we have a low number of kilometers

2743
02:49:16,132 --> 02:49:18,702
of road adjacent said that have a lack snow storage

2744
02:49:18,702 --> 02:49:22,562
but there are significant network of sidewalks that are just

2745
02:49:22,562 --> 02:49:26,552
the regional roads that have almost doubled Park historic snow

2746
02:49:26,762 --> 02:49:30,132
on sometimes six or eight labor so it's definitely a

2747
02:49:30,132 --> 02:49:33,032
hot topic and will be going back to council without

2748
02:49:33,032 --> 02:49:35,822
what are our record should Mr mas thank you very

2749
02:49:35,822 --> 02:49:38,752
much so at this point I would suggest we do

2750
02:49:38,752 --> 02:49:42,462
a motion to uh refer this to ... to staff

2751
02:49:42,462 --> 02:49:45,562
accounts receivable do you have a question or comment

2752
02:49:45,562 --> 02:49:47,882
thank you through Medicare certainly I'm supportive of of moving

2753
02:49:47,882 --> 02:49:49,872
forward in that in that fashion but I just wanted

2754
02:49:49,872 --> 02:49:53,152
that to mention something that I've been thinking about relationship

2755
02:49:53,152 --> 02:49:56,932
to this with and it deals with liability ... you

2756
02:49:56,932 --> 02:49:59,962
know for years I've I've had concerns or have shared

2757
02:49:59,962 --> 02:50:04,042
concerns of residents and businesses in the downtown centenarians later

2758
02:50:04,042 --> 02:50:06,512
to high street and the boulevards and sidewalks on High

2759
02:50:06,512 --> 02:50:10,942
Street and ... ... I'm everyone at this point is

2760
02:50:10,942 --> 02:50:13,082
quite aware that the reason looks after the road in

2761
02:50:13,082 --> 02:50:15,542
the town of sapa the sidewalks that but that's not

2762
02:50:15,542 --> 02:50:17,322
just in the winter time so that that was the

2763
02:50:17,322 --> 02:50:19,522
point I was trying to get at I think that

2764
02:50:19,522 --> 02:50:22,162
this the sidewalk grinding that we've done or that has

2765
02:50:22,162 --> 02:50:24,512
been done to try and reduce trip hazards that was

2766
02:50:24,512 --> 02:50:27,262
done by the town when there's issues with weeds I

2767
02:50:27,262 --> 02:50:29,432
believe it's the town that goes in so so my

2768
02:50:29,512 --> 02:50:31,622
my comment would be that I I think this this

2769
02:50:31,622 --> 02:50:34,002
is a good way to start the discussion but I

2770
02:50:34,002 --> 02:50:35,362
think that it needs to be a little bit more

2771
02:50:35,362 --> 02:50:38,862
fulsome and perhaps involve more than just winter maintenance and

2772
02:50:38,862 --> 02:50:41,082
so I would ask that perhaps Stockton sitter that when

2773
02:50:41,112 --> 02:50:44,792
when we send it back to them for refer review

2774
02:50:44,792 --> 02:50:50,212
okay okay so a motion to receive and referred to

2775
02:50:50,212 --> 02:50:55,152
staff by council Washington's seconded by councillor Sabo further questions

2776
02:50:55,152 --> 02:50:58,082
or comments all those in favor

2777
02:50:58,082 --> 02:51:02,272
... Hon that's carried ... we did deal off already

2778
02:51:02,272 --> 02:51:06,022
with ... disposition item one B. so we'll skip through

2779
02:51:06,022 --> 02:51:10,612
that one's that thirteen C. is excess ability advisory committee

2780
02:51:10,612 --> 02:51:14,522
requesting council direct the director I think I suppose be

2781
02:51:14,522 --> 02:51:18,742
of community services and a senior planner

2782
02:51:18,742 --> 02:51:21,392
is it community I was told it should be changed

2783
02:51:21,392 --> 02:51:26,332
but isn't development services

2784
02:51:26,332 --> 02:51:30,822
grants very about America right yeah that should that should

2785
02:51:30,822 --> 02:51:34,912
be directed to Mr part now and park staff as

2786
02:51:34,912 --> 02:51:38,532
opposed to develop services okay so should go to community

2787
02:51:38,532 --> 02:51:40,032
services

2788
02:51:40,032 --> 02:51:42,282
and the senior plan to attend the next meeting to

2789
02:51:42,282 --> 02:51:45,832
address future needs for accessibility standards and all of town

2790
02:51:45,832 --> 02:51:48,702
parks so it should be a senior planner who will

2791
02:51:48,702 --> 02:51:50,202
should be

2792
02:51:50,202 --> 02:51:52,202
I would defer to Mister but now I'm sure the

2793
02:51:52,202 --> 02:51:56,742
parts manager would be probably the right person

2794
02:51:56,742 --> 02:51:59,152
sorry I think I saw Mr crimes briquemont screen others

2795
02:51:59,152 --> 02:52:03,652
Mr but now thank you Mr but now

2796
02:52:03,652 --> 02:52:07,932
good morning still about American members council I think yes

2797
02:52:07,932 --> 02:52:10,922
the that direction should be to my department community services

2798
02:52:10,922 --> 02:52:14,382
with our staff yes I I believe would pertain more

2799
02:52:14,382 --> 02:52:16,662
to establishing

2800
02:52:16,662 --> 02:52:21,942
coppicing acceptable standards ... for for our parts developments ...

2801
02:52:21,942 --> 02:52:24,652
that's something that our staff in our department yeah but

2802
02:52:24,652 --> 02:52:27,722
managed and then move forward other departments will be involved

2803
02:52:27,782 --> 02:52:30,372
are far from there but it ultimately falls within my

2804
02:52:30,442 --> 02:52:31,782
jurisdiction

2805
02:52:31,782 --> 02:52:36,202
okay so if we can I think council Harding and

2806
02:52:36,202 --> 02:52:39,172
regional council grass here on the committee so I think

2807
02:52:39,172 --> 02:52:41,272
the intent was to to to get it to the

2808
02:52:41,272 --> 02:52:43,602
right spot and and what we're being told is that

2809
02:52:43,602 --> 02:52:46,542
the right spot is community services how are you both

2810
02:52:46,542 --> 02:52:51,102
okay with what the direction to go to community services

2811
02:52:51,102 --> 02:52:55,722
we don't accounts around councillor hardy had your hand up

2812
02:52:55,722 --> 02:52:59,012
where yes he did the main reason why we figured

2813
02:52:59,012 --> 02:53:02,172
it should go to and all the development department is

2814
02:53:02,172 --> 02:53:05,572
because when you're doing a subdivision not you're dealing with

2815
02:53:05,952 --> 02:53:09,692
the town of what the town is requesting ... you

2816
02:53:09,692 --> 02:53:13,782
know the subdivided to do so by getting it into

2817
02:53:13,782 --> 02:53:19,482
the development stage ... wonder roughing in their water sureste

2818
02:53:19,482 --> 02:53:22,872
can just rough a pipe bands for a splash pad

2819
02:53:22,872 --> 02:53:25,052
down the road or something to that nature yeah but

2820
02:53:25,052 --> 02:53:27,892
we're being told that to the better department to send

2821
02:53:27,892 --> 02:53:29,702
this to would be

2822
02:53:29,702 --> 02:53:32,062
Subotnick Mr but no Mr renters you guys want to

2823
02:53:32,062 --> 02:53:34,822
fight it out who wants it

2824
02:53:34,822 --> 02:53:39,652
sorry sorry sorry sorry about that Sir you Madame Marinello

2825
02:53:39,952 --> 02:53:44,392
I understand what that council writings thinking ... through the

2826
02:53:44,392 --> 02:53:48,582
development services department first and planning and pretty consultation meetings

2827
02:53:49,002 --> 02:53:53,852
also with development engineering wait we employment so many different

2828
02:53:53,852 --> 02:53:57,682
standards from the province the region that sound like the

2829
02:53:57,682 --> 02:54:00,792
genesis of where it job don't necessarily always come out

2830
02:54:00,792 --> 02:54:04,012
of our department so we take the imports from everybody

2831
02:54:04,012 --> 02:54:07,682
and Mr but now any staff are the ones that

2832
02:54:07,972 --> 02:54:12,022
should define to determine what those standards are once we

2833
02:54:12,022 --> 02:54:14,392
know what they are we'll put them in the development

2834
02:54:14,392 --> 02:54:16,812
design criteria

2835
02:54:16,812 --> 02:54:20,152
from the beginning of the development process so that's kind

2836
02:54:20,152 --> 02:54:22,642
of how it works in terms of some of these

2837
02:54:22,642 --> 02:54:26,402
different things okay okay sorry are you good council Harding

2838
02:54:26,402 --> 02:54:31,142
of we just change that that requesting ... council direct

2839
02:54:31,142 --> 02:54:34,782
the director of community services and senior out as a

2840
02:54:34,782 --> 02:54:38,852
senior staff to attend the next meeting of the accessibility

2841
02:54:39,162 --> 02:54:42,132
advisory committee to address future needs for accessible standards in

2842
02:54:42,132 --> 02:54:45,602
all towns are doing a parks make slight change so

2843
02:54:45,602 --> 02:54:48,632
you're you're good with that you'll you'll move that to

2844
02:54:48,632 --> 02:54:51,612
okay so let's move by council Harding regional council grassy

2845
02:54:51,612 --> 02:54:53,082
are you good with second in that or you have

2846
02:54:53,082 --> 02:54:57,782
other questions you're good for second I have a question

2847
02:54:57,782 --> 02:54:59,982
I have a question because

2848
02:54:59,982 --> 02:55:02,562
it would seem that it would be natural that that

2849
02:55:02,562 --> 02:55:05,592
would happen but unfortunately in the past so the way

2850
02:55:05,592 --> 02:55:10,322
that it happened at Kelso does well but we did

2851
02:55:10,322 --> 02:55:14,942
that with the most recent treasury bill ... development they

2852
02:55:14,942 --> 02:55:18,802
were gracious enough to make changes that we thought as

2853
02:55:18,802 --> 02:55:22,632
far as the acceptability committee work changes that would have

2854
02:55:22,632 --> 02:55:25,702
been a part of the accessibility act so my question

2855
02:55:25,702 --> 02:55:28,692
is to Mr Bucknell you know what currently do you

2856
02:55:28,692 --> 02:55:31,092
do as far as or if you at are you

2857
02:55:31,092 --> 02:55:34,822
using those accessibility standards or were they not used with

2858
02:55:34,822 --> 02:55:37,692
respect to the tracker built development that we just had

2859
02:55:37,692 --> 02:55:40,102
to redefine

2860
02:55:40,102 --> 02:55:42,122
Mr but now

2861
02:55:42,122 --> 02:55:44,692
R. two a real cut across the street the standards

2862
02:55:44,692 --> 02:55:48,452
that are established RPG standards for accessibility and those are

2863
02:55:48,452 --> 02:55:53,202
quality and referenced during those reviews are for development what

2864
02:55:53,202 --> 02:55:55,562
I believe in a five I don't want to speak

2865
02:55:55,562 --> 02:55:58,812
out of turn here but what I believe is an

2866
02:55:58,812 --> 02:56:02,642
elevated standard that the town of Georgian itself and the

2867
02:56:02,852 --> 02:56:06,512
and the committee I wish luck Clement has considerations on

2868
02:56:06,512 --> 02:56:10,202
a regular standard basis so out well while we have

2869
02:56:10,202 --> 02:56:15,242
developed everything in accordance with with provincial statutes legislative requirements

2870
02:56:15,532 --> 02:56:20,192
accessibility requirements globally ... elevating some of those standards to

2871
02:56:20,192 --> 02:56:22,622
it to a certain point is what I believe that

2872
02:56:22,622 --> 02:56:27,252
committees requesting us to consider and those would be things

2873
02:56:27,252 --> 02:56:28,712
at the end of the day those will be things

2874
02:56:28,712 --> 02:56:31,372
that would come to my department it would be our

2875
02:56:31,372 --> 02:56:34,912
park standards guidelines as well as our recreation park master

2876
02:56:34,912 --> 02:56:38,712
plans and that would influence the developments went out Mr

2877
02:56:38,712 --> 02:56:41,722
lectures and his team are looking to review applications for

2878
02:56:41,722 --> 02:56:46,642
developments we we would up slightly elevated standard which would

2879
02:56:46,642 --> 02:56:48,602
become the norm Georgina

2880
02:56:48,602 --> 02:56:51,482
okay ... I think it's also hard it will probably

2881
02:56:51,482 --> 02:56:55,482
tell you that ... what we saw worked elevated standards

2882
02:56:55,482 --> 02:56:59,072
in any way shape or form basically

2883
02:56:59,072 --> 02:57:02,002
the provincial step so that's what my questions I understand

2884
02:57:02,042 --> 02:57:05,622
what our standards we can ask for but it seems

2885
02:57:05,622 --> 02:57:07,482
to me that we have a lot of the provincial

2886
02:57:07,482 --> 02:57:10,842
standards in the past so you're assuring me that going

2887
02:57:10,842 --> 02:57:15,592
forward will be those provincial standards used properly done with

2888
02:57:15,592 --> 02:57:19,372
respect to future subdivision plats and if we want elevators

2889
02:57:19,372 --> 02:57:24,112
standards we'll have to deal with those through our committee

2890
02:57:24,112 --> 02:57:27,262
at three Mattamy I guess based based on my understanding

2891
02:57:27,302 --> 02:57:30,592
that minimal standards are met as established by the province

2892
02:57:30,922 --> 02:57:33,892
but in order to ensure that we're meeting what the

2893
02:57:33,892 --> 02:57:38,112
municipality here press you want to achieve that standard that

2894
02:57:38,112 --> 02:57:43,172
standard would become part process of our checklist

2895
02:57:43,172 --> 02:57:47,242
well thank you I appreciate it so we got the

2896
02:57:47,292 --> 02:57:51,122
the motion moved and I think seconded that so ...

2897
02:57:51,122 --> 02:57:54,672
the acceptability committee is requesting ...

2898
02:57:54,672 --> 02:57:58,112
the director community services and senior staff to attend one

2899
02:57:58,112 --> 02:58:00,872
of their meetings to have that discussion sorry counter see

2900
02:58:00,872 --> 02:58:03,302
where you had a question or comment

2901
02:58:03,302 --> 02:58:06,702
thank you through Medicare yes I am a question related

2902
02:58:06,702 --> 02:58:09,412
to the risks the second request that we director directorate

2903
02:58:09,412 --> 02:58:12,132
of planner attend the next meeting when is the next

2904
02:58:12,132 --> 02:58:15,402
meeting and does that give the director in planner enough

2905
02:58:15,402 --> 02:58:20,122
time to be appropriately prepared

2906
02:58:20,122 --> 02:58:23,932
when is their next meeting on not sure

2907
02:58:23,932 --> 02:58:28,472
do we know Rachel Mr about your your matter the

2908
02:58:28,512 --> 02:58:31,772
next meeting of the accessibility committee would not be scheduled

2909
02:58:31,772 --> 02:58:35,622
until the next term of council at this point

2910
02:58:35,622 --> 02:58:37,532
yeah so there's there's lots of time for them to

2911
02:58:37,532 --> 02:58:40,362
be prepared Mr crunch berries you have a comment I

2912
02:58:40,362 --> 02:58:43,062
just wanna say quickly that we don't even need council

2913
02:58:43,062 --> 02:58:46,192
direction to attend the meeting on this committee what's on

2914
02:58:46,192 --> 02:58:49,372
the committee meeting we stop at a meeting to make

2915
02:58:49,372 --> 02:58:53,282
the request a staff so council thank you will have

2916
02:58:53,282 --> 02:58:56,072
the relevant staff at the next committee meeting whatever it

2917
02:58:56,192 --> 02:58:57,412
may be

2918
02:58:57,412 --> 02:59:01,162
great so we've got it moved and seconded further questions

2919
02:59:01,162 --> 02:59:02,652
or comments

2920
02:59:02,652 --> 02:59:05,342
all those in favor

2921
02:59:05,342 --> 02:59:09,072
opposed carries I note other committees I've been on we

2922
02:59:09,642 --> 02:59:12,852
we need stop we asked staff to come and they

2923
02:59:12,852 --> 02:59:18,392
make a presentation so ... next item is charging accessibility

2924
02:59:18,392 --> 02:59:23,302
advisory committee requesting staff to conduct a feasibility study funded

2925
02:59:23,302 --> 02:59:27,302
by the accessibility advisory committee budget up to nine thousand

2926
02:59:27,302 --> 02:59:30,072
seven hundred fifty dollars for the installation of a universally

2927
02:59:30,072 --> 02:59:34,182
designed fully accessible family washroom with the adult change table

2928
02:59:34,182 --> 02:59:37,262
at DeLaSalle beach

2929
02:59:37,262 --> 02:59:40,692
was this part of the waterfront master plan as well

2930
02:59:40,692 --> 02:59:43,082
as this are we do we want to refer that

2931
02:59:43,212 --> 02:59:47,442
there or I'm just looking for some direction Mr but

2932
02:59:47,442 --> 02:59:48,572
no

2933
02:59:48,572 --> 02:59:52,512
... my suggestion for stop respect would be that we

2934
02:59:52,562 --> 02:59:55,292
would make that reference to the master plan there are

2935
02:59:55,292 --> 02:59:58,142
some conceptual drawings and renderings that were created as part

2936
02:59:58,142 --> 03:00:01,472
of phase one of the waterfront parks master plan study

2937
03:00:02,272 --> 03:00:05,642
those recommendations will be cut forthcoming by end of year

2938
03:00:05,642 --> 03:00:09,592
to council for final consideration and I will assist us

2939
03:00:09,592 --> 03:00:12,372
in guiding us through through the development stages of each

2940
03:00:12,372 --> 03:00:16,952
of those were respective Parker's I don't think accessibility advisory

2941
03:00:16,952 --> 03:00:22,142
committee happy user budget for the feasibility study

2942
03:00:22,142 --> 03:00:24,012
not to my knowledge

2943
03:00:24,012 --> 03:00:26,902
okay so I'm not sure maybe council Harding you can

2944
03:00:27,062 --> 03:00:30,042
why why why did the committee feel they needed to

2945
03:00:30,552 --> 03:00:33,282
make this request all

2946
03:00:33,282 --> 03:00:36,332
staff were sitting in on the on the

2947
03:00:36,332 --> 03:00:39,082
committee meeting and stuff that we were talking with regards

2948
03:00:39,082 --> 03:00:42,582
to at all it's the talk of opening washrooms down

2949
03:00:42,832 --> 03:00:46,972
you know motion to the lake or at the lake

2950
03:00:46,972 --> 03:00:50,702
Maria yeah I totally accessible ... you know by the

2951
03:00:50,702 --> 03:00:52,902
time you know there's no washer Street there are so

2952
03:00:52,902 --> 03:00:56,362
I mean it's hard to rather than you know one

2953
03:00:56,362 --> 03:00:59,592
thanks one or bodies Sir if I'm not mistaken what

2954
03:00:59,592 --> 03:01:01,742
do you know what rooms at the at the lake

2955
03:01:02,042 --> 03:01:05,562
at the beach they're not fully accessible with the family

2956
03:01:05,702 --> 03:01:08,922
sees cable that's what you're looking at exactly like it

2957
03:01:08,922 --> 03:01:11,462
should be any for seniors out I mean you know

2958
03:01:11,462 --> 03:01:14,242
it it's now there has to be something there with

2959
03:01:14,242 --> 03:01:17,022
the pilot people we got there it's the same thing

2960
03:01:17,022 --> 03:01:19,502
as mine I'm not gonna get into that right now

2961
03:01:19,502 --> 03:01:24,322
but ... you know it's like looking at for years

2962
03:01:24,452 --> 03:01:27,272
yeah so at this point some are you okay if

2963
03:01:27,272 --> 03:01:29,952
we refer this to staff I mean there's not an

2964
03:01:29,952 --> 03:01:33,262
accessible advisory committee coming up in the next little while

2965
03:01:33,262 --> 03:01:36,282
can we refer this to staff to be one of

2966
03:01:36,282 --> 03:01:39,872
those topics that they can discuss at the the first

2967
03:01:40,392 --> 03:01:43,672
accessibility advisory committee when it comes in there it tied

2968
03:01:43,672 --> 03:01:47,242
in with the the waterfront master plan and and

2969
03:01:47,242 --> 03:01:49,412
do it that way can we refer this to to

2970
03:01:49,412 --> 03:01:53,192
staff for further details I don't have a problem with

2971
03:01:53,192 --> 03:01:55,392
the ferry I just wanna make sure that staff is

2972
03:01:55,392 --> 03:01:59,312
just realizing what the committee is asking us for some

2973
03:01:59,312 --> 03:02:02,052
research on it yet be able to come back with

2974
03:02:02,052 --> 03:02:05,302
a report and also their first meeting yeah I think

2975
03:02:05,302 --> 03:02:07,672
we can do that without having to use the visor

2976
03:02:07,672 --> 03:02:11,552
committee's budget Mr bear with nodding his head so yeah

2977
03:02:11,552 --> 03:02:14,672
I don't know ... this to ... to ... Mr

2978
03:02:14,672 --> 03:02:18,312
but no and he will ensure that that there is

2979
03:02:18,312 --> 03:02:23,232
information ready for that first accessibility advisory committee ... in

2980
03:02:23,232 --> 03:02:27,702
twenty twenty three likely and have that as one of

2981
03:02:27,702 --> 03:02:31,082
the items on the agenda has at that work

2982
03:02:31,082 --> 03:02:34,262
that works for me okay so motion to refer this

2983
03:02:34,262 --> 03:02:37,002
to staff

2984
03:02:37,002 --> 03:02:39,132
and it's gonna get the motion moved by council hard

2985
03:02:39,132 --> 03:02:42,212
drive a second or second by regional council prostate cancer

2986
03:02:42,212 --> 03:02:46,402
wanting to expand America ... what is the budget of

2987
03:02:46,402 --> 03:02:49,082
this committee because

2988
03:02:49,082 --> 03:02:52,732
third third nonchalantly about to spend ten thousand dollars I'm

2989
03:02:52,732 --> 03:02:54,552
just it is very different than some of the other

2990
03:02:54,552 --> 03:02:59,772
committees because of the accessibility requirements so Mr Weiner

2991
03:02:59,772 --> 03:03:02,792
three about America councillor Boddington the budget is ten thousand

2992
03:03:02,792 --> 03:03:06,772
dollars at thanks ... Mr reader at rob what do

2993
03:03:06,772 --> 03:03:08,372
they have left

2994
03:03:08,372 --> 03:03:11,342
in this year do you have a no offense no

2995
03:03:11,402 --> 03:03:14,032
three three about America not have that currently on hand

2996
03:03:14,352 --> 03:03:16,992
okay ... as a as a follow up to the

2997
03:03:16,992 --> 03:03:20,602
... the motion that was just put on this if

2998
03:03:20,602 --> 03:03:22,842
look I'm just spit balling an idea here we we've

2999
03:03:22,842 --> 03:03:25,202
seen people in the public have to fundraise to get

3000
03:03:25,202 --> 03:03:29,542
an accessible swing set installed if the money is currently

3001
03:03:29,542 --> 03:03:32,222
in their budget for this year and since that committee

3002
03:03:32,222 --> 03:03:34,112
is no longer meet and for the rest of this

3003
03:03:34,112 --> 03:03:36,812
term can we investigate to see if that money could

3004
03:03:36,812 --> 03:03:39,432
be used to add an accessible swing set somewhere else

3005
03:03:39,432 --> 03:03:41,262
at least that way that it's been a motion for

3006
03:03:41,262 --> 03:03:43,432
what it's doing I know it's it's off topic for

3007
03:03:43,432 --> 03:03:45,242
what they're currently asking for but if we're going to

3008
03:03:45,242 --> 03:03:47,272
be used in the budget for what they're currently asking

3009
03:03:47,272 --> 03:03:52,642
for any way that money is there

3010
03:03:52,642 --> 03:03:54,962
councillor Harding

3011
03:03:54,962 --> 03:03:59,522
thank you Madame where he committee was wasn't sure if

3012
03:03:59,522 --> 03:04:02,992
this was get past you're not true councillor that but

3013
03:04:03,052 --> 03:04:06,652
can I recommend that that's our budget from last year's

3014
03:04:06,762 --> 03:04:11,042
that is usually ten thousand dollars we carry that over

3015
03:04:11,512 --> 03:04:14,132
for that project for next year they don't they don't

3016
03:04:14,132 --> 03:04:17,122
typically have those budgets carried over Mr reader can and

3017
03:04:17,122 --> 03:04:19,892
speak to that ... and I'm not sure what is

3018
03:04:19,892 --> 03:04:24,422
the cost of the ... extensible swing its third barely

3019
03:04:24,422 --> 03:04:27,842
pricey

3020
03:04:27,842 --> 03:04:30,602
if I can add to that if it's a swing

3021
03:04:30,602 --> 03:04:33,652
similar to what we've installed rock ... you're looking at

3022
03:04:33,652 --> 03:04:36,512
about twenty three thousand dollars yeah all right thanks for

3023
03:04:36,512 --> 03:04:39,892
the clarification that we're gonna yeah there are more expensive

3024
03:04:39,892 --> 03:04:42,542
than what you think they're not the cheapest thing I

3025
03:04:42,542 --> 03:04:44,712
don't like the idea of having another one it's a

3026
03:04:44,712 --> 03:04:50,492
great idea ... but this budget won't be able to

3027
03:04:50,492 --> 03:04:53,372
to be used for for ... purchasing it on its

3028
03:04:53,372 --> 03:04:54,772
own so

3029
03:04:54,772 --> 03:04:56,262
yeah

3030
03:04:56,262 --> 03:04:59,362
yeah all right that but I mean this was supposedly

3031
03:04:59,392 --> 03:05:03,122
and all allocated to go to work status all that

3032
03:05:03,122 --> 03:05:06,652
washer and older siblings and other issues that we've got

3033
03:05:07,102 --> 03:05:11,812
but accessible washers are one of the major things

3034
03:05:11,812 --> 03:05:14,902
it looks good on the town yeah typically ... doesn't

3035
03:05:14,902 --> 03:05:19,062
the committees spend some of the dollars on different accessible

3036
03:05:19,062 --> 03:05:23,202
items throughout the community so there was there wasn't anything

3037
03:05:23,202 --> 03:05:26,022
the that that the funds were used for in twenty

3038
03:05:26,022 --> 03:05:27,612
twenty to

3039
03:05:27,612 --> 03:05:29,652
and you want hoping to be able to carry the

3040
03:05:29,652 --> 03:05:32,612
funds over while we're all for it does it make

3041
03:05:32,672 --> 03:05:35,932
those funds to that project

3042
03:05:35,932 --> 03:05:38,402
so I don't know if we can maybe start to

3043
03:05:38,402 --> 03:05:41,672
that what a let Mr reader come back on Mr

3044
03:05:41,672 --> 03:05:44,772
reader

3045
03:05:44,772 --> 03:05:47,412
three three you Madame merece so I mean it council

3046
03:05:47,412 --> 03:05:49,782
does have a policy that we we don't roll these

3047
03:05:49,782 --> 03:05:53,212
funds over there is more than one committee that generally

3048
03:05:53,212 --> 03:05:55,972
does not spend their budget funds so that that is

3049
03:05:55,972 --> 03:05:58,012
the current policy that we wouldn't roll them over as

3050
03:05:58,012 --> 03:06:02,432
far as larger items accessibility items they they do go

3051
03:06:02,432 --> 03:06:06,122
through the budget process over talking about washrooms ... or

3052
03:06:06,122 --> 03:06:08,232
swing or anything like that it would go through the

3053
03:06:08,232 --> 03:06:11,932
budget process and be funded through through our capital reserves

3054
03:06:11,932 --> 03:06:14,522
rather than through the operating budget so that the budget

3055
03:06:14,522 --> 03:06:19,622
is more intended for smaller items right okay so

3056
03:06:19,622 --> 03:06:22,072
I'm sorry I can't remember where I am about different

3057
03:06:22,072 --> 03:06:24,692
speakers arriving I had the motion

3058
03:06:24,692 --> 03:06:29,532
at one point moved and seconded to refer this to

3059
03:06:29,532 --> 03:06:33,022
staff for them to follow up with at the first

3060
03:06:33,022 --> 03:06:36,992
accessible meeting correct Madame clerk help me here I'm I'd

3061
03:06:36,992 --> 03:06:39,372
spend a few minutes now that's correct not a match

3062
03:06:39,732 --> 03:06:41,482
I had a movie second but we hadn't voted on

3063
03:06:41,482 --> 03:06:44,072
because I had a question okay

3064
03:06:44,072 --> 03:06:47,992
we don't count across the

3065
03:06:47,992 --> 03:06:53,402
just just to clarify help out here

3066
03:06:53,402 --> 03:06:58,662
the issue with respect to major changes what a cancer

3067
03:06:58,662 --> 03:07:03,222
excessive build it standards ... excessive building committee has been

3068
03:07:03,222 --> 03:07:07,662
somewhat frustrated over the last couple years there are major

3069
03:07:07,662 --> 03:07:12,442
issues double style your trust they're not

3070
03:07:12,442 --> 03:07:16,552
you know we tried to address the accessibility committee what

3071
03:07:16,552 --> 03:07:19,692
a lot of the issues are our work general it

3072
03:07:19,692 --> 03:07:24,412
just coming through Cecilie committee at require thousands of dollars

3073
03:07:24,462 --> 03:07:28,072
or that what we have as part of the excess

3074
03:07:28,072 --> 03:07:32,432
military give you examples of both arenas what it came

3075
03:07:32,462 --> 03:07:36,612
to sight lines that we have built built mobility so

3076
03:07:36,612 --> 03:07:38,372
it's you know what was happening on the ice would

3077
03:07:38,372 --> 03:07:42,442
require major investments it's taken us Dave helping with three

3078
03:07:42,442 --> 03:07:45,842
years to be able to get anywhere near having the

3079
03:07:45,842 --> 03:07:50,622
proper of televisions and you're lying Street stole and if

3080
03:07:50,622 --> 03:07:54,222
your readers ... so we had to go to the

3081
03:07:54,222 --> 03:07:57,872
town for those are church although we did you some

3082
03:07:57,872 --> 03:08:00,482
of the money is for what at

3083
03:08:00,482 --> 03:08:05,112
sign Sportsplex so there are much bigger issues with respect

3084
03:08:05,112 --> 03:08:07,592
to the cost of

3085
03:08:07,592 --> 03:08:11,092
so spoke status I am going quite frankly at least

3086
03:08:11,092 --> 03:08:15,282
to a point where we are getting the standards Mr

3087
03:08:15,282 --> 03:08:18,922
but ... talked about going beyond those steps or having

3088
03:08:18,922 --> 03:08:22,762
a tough time just meeting all standards showing nature continue

3089
03:08:22,762 --> 03:08:26,772
to invest and look at other ways whether it's through

3090
03:08:26,772 --> 03:08:30,842
yeah ... monies that are associated to committee or eight

3091
03:08:30,932 --> 03:08:35,742
well much greater contribution which usually happens stroke but

3092
03:08:35,742 --> 03:08:38,432
Mr where refer to so I think just to clarify

3093
03:08:38,432 --> 03:08:41,252
what the money is that's part

3094
03:08:41,252 --> 03:08:42,422
just

3095
03:08:42,422 --> 03:08:45,202
we also have to go elsewhere just to make a

3096
03:08:45,202 --> 03:08:47,682
basic steps as part

3097
03:08:47,682 --> 03:08:49,772
your neighbors out

3098
03:08:49,772 --> 03:08:52,942
share comment concerning

3099
03:08:52,942 --> 03:08:55,712
yeah I think you hit the nail right on the

3100
03:08:55,712 --> 03:09:00,052
right on that yeah the head of it ... but

3101
03:09:00,052 --> 03:09:02,342
yeah I mean the committee

3102
03:09:02,342 --> 03:09:05,912
it's very accurate that does a lot of work and

3103
03:09:05,912 --> 03:09:07,842
we seem to be doing a lot of work and

3104
03:09:07,842 --> 03:09:11,062
not getting a whole lot of response back and that's

3105
03:09:11,062 --> 03:09:15,642
what's really well why we're having problems trying to keep

3106
03:09:15,672 --> 03:09:20,212
it on the executive committee but going forward I'd I'd

3107
03:09:20,212 --> 03:09:22,222
like us that really

3108
03:09:22,222 --> 03:09:25,302
try to come up with site years like this at

3109
03:09:25,302 --> 03:09:27,662
the end they're needed in the town I mean they're

3110
03:09:27,662 --> 03:09:31,042
definitely eat it now looks good on church and there's

3111
03:09:31,042 --> 03:09:33,222
no doubt about that but I think we're gonna have

3112
03:09:33,222 --> 03:09:38,482
to allocate that general budget for either items like this

3113
03:09:38,482 --> 03:09:41,742
or something are there but a but a dollar figure

3114
03:09:41,742 --> 03:09:46,602
on it each year ... you know you could spend

3115
03:09:46,602 --> 03:09:49,722
... half a million dollars that's still not have any

3116
03:09:49,722 --> 03:09:54,562
worse you can million from any company yeah

3117
03:09:54,562 --> 03:09:56,982
like why why don't I write one of my pet

3118
03:09:56,982 --> 03:09:58,952
peeves are two is

3119
03:09:58,952 --> 03:10:04,292
it all automatic washrooms are automatic captions oil washing out

3120
03:10:04,292 --> 03:10:06,902
we've done quite a few of those sets all the

3121
03:10:07,302 --> 03:10:08,652
regular

3122
03:10:08,652 --> 03:10:11,302
you're the money from the accessibility committee he's gone into

3123
03:10:11,302 --> 03:10:13,892
that but the other thing we need to hit on

3124
03:10:13,892 --> 03:10:17,152
this the stalls for people that are to have disabilities

3125
03:10:17,602 --> 03:10:20,492
you know the guy walked out what two canes or

3126
03:10:20,492 --> 03:10:22,852
somebody in a wheelchair

3127
03:10:22,852 --> 03:10:24,932
it all has got a button to push and you've

3128
03:10:24,932 --> 03:10:27,002
got a site with the door I mean you put

3129
03:10:27,002 --> 03:10:30,122
yourself in a wheelchair and try that I mean I've

3130
03:10:30,122 --> 03:10:32,872
done that I've sat in a wheelchair that's how you

3131
03:10:32,872 --> 03:10:36,522
get the feel for everything and you can understand exactly

3132
03:10:36,522 --> 03:10:40,722
what committee is after would you try that and you

3133
03:10:40,722 --> 03:10:42,672
know so it's it's just one of those things with

3134
03:10:42,672 --> 03:10:44,692
that so much that we didn't have a lot of

3135
03:10:44,692 --> 03:10:46,572
work to do on it that's for sure that's for

3136
03:10:46,572 --> 03:10:48,002
sure thank you

3137
03:10:48,002 --> 03:10:50,882
okay I'm pretty sure I got the motion to refer

3138
03:10:50,882 --> 03:10:56,802
this to staff moved and seconded all those in favor

3139
03:10:56,802 --> 03:10:59,142
lows and that's carried

3140
03:10:59,142 --> 03:11:03,572
next is the Georgian accessibility advisory committee requesting staff create

3141
03:11:03,572 --> 03:11:07,102
an updated communication plan for the promotion of Georgina's accessible

3142
03:11:07,102 --> 03:11:10,872
spaces and a game with the committee not meeting for

3143
03:11:10,902 --> 03:11:14,162
for some time I'm wondering if we can refer this

3144
03:11:14,162 --> 03:11:17,562
to probably I'm thinking maybe even Mr crowns berry's office

3145
03:11:17,562 --> 03:11:19,822
or ...

3146
03:11:19,822 --> 03:11:24,312
Mr nasties office to to discuss this so I can

3147
03:11:24,312 --> 03:11:26,492
refer it to do you want referred to you Mr

3148
03:11:26,492 --> 03:11:30,812
nasty and then the the game at the the first

3149
03:11:31,252 --> 03:11:35,002
new accessibility advisory committee meeting ... perhaps of this can

3150
03:11:35,002 --> 03:11:38,432
be on the agenda as well to discuss our communication

3151
03:11:38,432 --> 03:11:41,842
plans because I know I think each other committees

3152
03:11:41,842 --> 03:11:45,422
would like to have information out there more about ...

3153
03:11:45,622 --> 03:11:48,692
you know equity diversity and and water ways and different

3154
03:11:48,692 --> 03:11:52,022
things but but to council hurting you had to your

3155
03:11:52,022 --> 03:11:54,622
hand up for a comment yeah yes just a very

3156
03:11:54,622 --> 03:11:58,112
quickly are basically one of these things just like the

3157
03:11:58,112 --> 03:12:03,242
town's social media yes they could put something in for

3158
03:12:03,242 --> 03:12:06,622
you know under that that ... if anybody sees something

3159
03:12:06,622 --> 03:12:09,652
that needs to be addressed well they can address it

3160
03:12:09,652 --> 03:12:13,522
through the and all the social

3161
03:12:13,522 --> 03:12:17,192
and all media or they can get in touch with

3162
03:12:17,192 --> 03:12:20,762
staff for with a number beside it search for that

3163
03:12:20,812 --> 03:12:23,312
it's telling of that we do have a twenty exactly

3164
03:12:23,672 --> 03:12:25,722
yeah and I think you for at the first meeting

3165
03:12:25,722 --> 03:12:29,352
of and and getting closer second meeting because sometimes orientation

3166
03:12:29,742 --> 03:12:34,852
but I think having communication stop go and sort of

3167
03:12:34,852 --> 03:12:38,502
give the expectations of what what the staff can provide

3168
03:12:38,502 --> 03:12:41,382
as we have a fairly small communications staff but what

3169
03:12:41,382 --> 03:12:44,122
can they do for the committees what they they do

3170
03:12:44,122 --> 03:12:46,882
do in terms of promotion of those various committees and

3171
03:12:46,882 --> 03:12:49,662
the activities of of those committee so I think it's

3172
03:12:49,662 --> 03:12:53,652
important if as part of that orientation that for those

3173
03:12:53,652 --> 03:12:55,882
new commit that new committee in for all the committees

3174
03:12:56,222 --> 03:12:59,212
that so we'll get Mr nasty and his staff to

3175
03:12:59,212 --> 03:13:02,862
provide some information to those committing so so we can

3176
03:13:02,862 --> 03:13:05,642
route a motion to refer this to ... Mr asking

3177
03:13:05,642 --> 03:13:10,812
for discussion with the twenty twenty three accessibility advisory committees

3178
03:13:11,612 --> 03:13:15,922
moved by councillor Harding seconded by regional council Rossi questions

3179
03:13:15,922 --> 03:13:19,562
or comments all those in favor

3180
03:13:19,562 --> 03:13:21,932
lows and that's carried

3181
03:13:21,932 --> 03:13:25,972
next is the Georgian equity diversity advice committee requesting staff

3182
03:13:25,972 --> 03:13:28,882
to create an anti racism policy and this is on

3183
03:13:28,882 --> 03:13:31,132
page

3184
03:13:31,132 --> 03:13:35,692
two oh seven of the repaired agenda ... I'll read

3185
03:13:35,692 --> 03:13:38,502
out the the full part of it so you understand

3186
03:13:38,502 --> 03:13:42,252
that the diversity committee request that council direct staff to

3187
03:13:42,252 --> 03:13:45,352
create a town of Georgina anti racism policy and the

3188
03:13:45,352 --> 03:13:48,652
staff will take the following first steps because committee realizes

3189
03:13:48,652 --> 03:13:51,352
that you just don't create a and he racism policy

3190
03:13:51,352 --> 03:13:54,622
overnight it's it's a long process but they're looking for

3191
03:13:54,622 --> 03:13:57,642
the first steps ... that human resources will become an

3192
03:13:57,642 --> 03:14:01,082
employer partner with the Canadian center for diversity and inclusion

3193
03:14:01,542 --> 03:14:03,642
I will be seeking to enter into a senior three

3194
03:14:03,642 --> 03:14:07,132
year partnership commitment which will be embedded into in the

3195
03:14:07,132 --> 03:14:10,572
HR strategic plan and the staff report back to the

3196
03:14:10,572 --> 03:14:14,192
Georgian actor never city arrived committee and then new truck

3197
03:14:14,222 --> 03:14:17,022
of office with an update on this initiative and I

3198
03:14:17,022 --> 03:14:20,902
don't know if ... Belfort Moffett Misbah and wishes to

3199
03:14:20,902 --> 03:14:24,412
make any comment on this you have a question councillor

3200
03:14:24,412 --> 03:14:26,922
Washington

3201
03:14:26,922 --> 03:14:29,812
thanks my merits review and defend this month it's going

3202
03:14:29,812 --> 03:14:32,762
to be here that's even better

3203
03:14:32,762 --> 03:14:37,332
just a cursory look into becoming a employer partner with

3204
03:14:37,332 --> 03:14:40,742
the Canadian center for diversity inclusion ... I saw figures

3205
03:14:40,742 --> 03:14:43,632
looking at costs between three thousand and ninety five hundred

3206
03:14:43,632 --> 03:14:47,342
dollars per year ... and were looking to approve right

3207
03:14:47,342 --> 03:14:49,862
now up to a three year partnership with us I

3208
03:14:49,862 --> 03:14:52,612
I I'd I'd rather it come back to council with

3209
03:14:52,612 --> 03:14:56,622
actual details of of what that partnership includes how much

3210
03:14:56,622 --> 03:14:58,802
it's actually going to cost us and the and what

3211
03:14:58,802 --> 03:15:01,232
the town gains from it well maybe this market can

3212
03:15:01,452 --> 03:15:04,202
there was a little bit now this market

3213
03:15:04,202 --> 03:15:06,922
thank you through you madam Mary

3214
03:15:06,922 --> 03:15:10,002
D. at the center for diversity and inclusion it's a

3215
03:15:10,002 --> 03:15:13,512
really good place for us to start and ... I

3216
03:15:13,512 --> 03:15:16,012
believe that three thousand to ninety five hundred is that

3217
03:15:16,012 --> 03:15:18,332
three thousand per year and if we go for the

3218
03:15:18,332 --> 03:15:21,282
three years it which we would go up to that

3219
03:15:21,382 --> 03:15:26,512
in total nine thousand dollars ... but we do have

3220
03:15:26,512 --> 03:15:29,792
the money in our budget to add to take that

3221
03:15:29,792 --> 03:15:33,972
on this year to start that partnership of four twelve

3222
03:15:33,972 --> 03:15:37,802
month period and that the the committee wanted us to

3223
03:15:37,802 --> 03:15:40,842
start with creating a policy which is really one of

3224
03:15:40,842 --> 03:15:44,222
the last steps the first steps that we have to

3225
03:15:44,222 --> 03:15:50,182
take is really looking at ... our organization ... trying

3226
03:15:50,182 --> 03:15:53,152
to pull together some data which is a little bit

3227
03:15:53,152 --> 03:15:55,932
of a struggle for us because we we don't have

3228
03:15:55,932 --> 03:15:59,222
an H. R. I. S. system that identifies some of

3229
03:15:59,222 --> 03:16:01,512
the diversity that we would like to be able to

3230
03:16:01,512 --> 03:16:04,802
identify in our organization so next year we'll have our

3231
03:16:04,802 --> 03:16:07,322
H. R. I. S. for up and running we will

3232
03:16:07,322 --> 03:16:11,302
have the partnership with the center for diversity and inclusion

3233
03:16:11,302 --> 03:16:15,812
and I think it's a really good place to start

3234
03:16:15,812 --> 03:16:17,732
well look the

3235
03:16:17,732 --> 03:16:22,032
our clerk through you to to both of them

3236
03:16:22,032 --> 03:16:25,072
okay three thousand dollars know from within your budget what

3237
03:16:25,072 --> 03:16:26,672
are the overall

3238
03:16:26,672 --> 03:16:29,182
costs like

3239
03:16:29,182 --> 03:16:33,052
walk us through what becoming a partner actually ... not

3240
03:16:33,052 --> 03:16:35,802
only forces us to do allows us to do ...

3241
03:16:36,282 --> 03:16:38,422
you know benefits it gives us but also some of

3242
03:16:38,422 --> 03:16:40,412
the stuff that we have to do in the background

3243
03:16:40,412 --> 03:16:43,732
but ... you know on our end of this partnership

3244
03:16:43,732 --> 03:16:47,212
... because what what I'm curious is you know do

3245
03:16:47,212 --> 03:16:50,022
we become a partner and then immediately have to send

3246
03:16:50,122 --> 03:16:52,952
all staff to diversity training and it's these kind of

3247
03:16:52,952 --> 03:16:55,102
things I would like to get which I'm not opposed

3248
03:16:55,102 --> 03:16:57,152
to by any means but I'd like to get up

3249
03:16:57,282 --> 03:16:59,822
a full view of what ... what we're actually committed

3250
03:16:59,822 --> 03:17:02,432
to because as it stands right now we're we're doing

3251
03:17:02,432 --> 03:17:04,732
this based on a two sentence

3252
03:17:04,732 --> 03:17:09,492
I'm comment on on the agenda

3253
03:17:09,492 --> 03:17:12,852
so at three Madame mayor to council whiting ten what

3254
03:17:12,852 --> 03:17:16,082
the partnership will do for us is really help us

3255
03:17:16,082 --> 03:17:20,702
develop a strategy and go forward strategy what that strategy

3256
03:17:20,702 --> 03:17:25,452
I'm assuming will include yes staff need training we need

3257
03:17:25,452 --> 03:17:28,792
to create a policy we need to pull together some

3258
03:17:28,792 --> 03:17:33,302
data from from our system ... what we need to

3259
03:17:33,302 --> 03:17:36,962
look at our HR policies and make sure that they

3260
03:17:36,962 --> 03:17:40,602
are inclusive ... so really what it would be doing

3261
03:17:40,602 --> 03:17:44,032
is creating a strategy for us to look at all

3262
03:17:44,032 --> 03:17:47,032
of the different aspects and any of those that have

3263
03:17:47,032 --> 03:17:49,532
significant cost to them would have to come back to

3264
03:17:49,532 --> 03:17:54,152
council to say is this something that we should be

3265
03:17:54,152 --> 03:17:58,152
spending money on what are our priorities right now and

3266
03:17:58,242 --> 03:18:01,932
how I mean looking at the HR policies um with

3267
03:18:01,932 --> 03:18:05,002
somebody from the center to say to us this is

3268
03:18:05,002 --> 03:18:07,022
good this is good this is good this is not

3269
03:18:07,022 --> 03:18:09,712
so good ... is is a really good place for

3270
03:18:09,712 --> 03:18:12,242
us to start so it's really looking at what we

3271
03:18:12,242 --> 03:18:15,292
have what we need to do what is our strategy

3272
03:18:15,292 --> 03:18:18,112
look like going forward and what are the total includes

3273
03:18:18,112 --> 03:18:21,122
the cost of all of that ... so it's really

3274
03:18:21,122 --> 03:18:24,292
partnering with them to help take us down that road

3275
03:18:24,842 --> 03:18:28,752
if thanks bye bye I appreciate that ... the idea

3276
03:18:28,752 --> 03:18:30,482
of ...

3277
03:18:30,482 --> 03:18:32,722
I'll be given the partnership ... and find any of

3278
03:18:32,722 --> 03:18:36,992
that information sounds good ... when we officially become a

3279
03:18:36,992 --> 03:18:40,342
partner have we committed to doing everything that they require

3280
03:18:40,992 --> 03:18:44,852
no absolutely not absolutely not it's like a membership with

3281
03:18:44,852 --> 03:18:48,902
any organization we are going to tap into their resources

3282
03:18:49,122 --> 03:18:53,462
there are ... specialists ... and and help them guide

3283
03:18:53,462 --> 03:18:56,712
us through the creation of our strategy by the OP

3284
03:18:56,712 --> 03:19:01,952
partner it it's basically getting a membership with the center

3285
03:19:02,192 --> 03:19:04,532
to be able to tap into the resources that they

3286
03:19:04,532 --> 03:19:07,522
have already established

3287
03:19:07,522 --> 03:19:09,682
okay thank you

3288
03:19:09,682 --> 03:19:13,362
further questions or comments

3289
03:19:13,362 --> 03:19:15,202
okay do I have a mover in a second ...

3290
03:19:15,202 --> 03:19:19,072
on this one

3291
03:19:19,072 --> 03:19:22,542
need a mobile by council zero second by regional council

3292
03:19:22,542 --> 03:19:25,602
grassy all those in favor

3293
03:19:25,602 --> 03:19:28,242
opposed and that's carried

3294
03:19:28,242 --> 03:19:31,012
let's see next

3295
03:19:31,012 --> 03:19:34,542
is from the Georgian agreed oversee advisory committee providing the

3296
03:19:34,542 --> 03:19:38,322
final hate has no place here decal designer requesting staff

3297
03:19:38,322 --> 03:19:41,112
move forward the creation and distribution of said that cold

3298
03:19:41,572 --> 03:19:43,252
I gotta tell you that that the court may have

3299
03:19:43,252 --> 03:19:45,422
been created

3300
03:19:45,422 --> 03:19:49,742
of we had the permission to go ahead this is

3301
03:19:49,742 --> 03:19:53,932
the the the the decal and they are in the

3302
03:19:53,932 --> 03:19:58,432
process of being distributed through various town facilities I think

3303
03:19:58,432 --> 03:19:59,902
...

3304
03:19:59,902 --> 03:20:01,802
not sure Mr but no do you have the details

3305
03:20:01,802 --> 03:20:04,562
I think the libraries

3306
03:20:04,562 --> 03:20:07,162
yes about American I can offer I will take the

3307
03:20:07,162 --> 03:20:09,392
fall and some of this this is that we this

3308
03:20:09,392 --> 03:20:11,402
decision was made back in June it was to come

3309
03:20:11,402 --> 03:20:14,162
to council it's unfortunate getting out of council's agenda at

3310
03:20:14,162 --> 03:20:17,042
this point ... those tackles have been with with a

3311
03:20:17,042 --> 03:20:19,462
minor tweak to what you see in your your agenda

3312
03:20:19,462 --> 03:20:24,202
packages for design purposes the decal is round so the

3313
03:20:24,592 --> 03:20:27,492
the local has been placed below the heart shaped hands

3314
03:20:27,582 --> 03:20:31,132
and be eight has no place here is more circular

3315
03:20:31,162 --> 03:20:35,562
yes that's that's the that is the final approved design

3316
03:20:35,562 --> 03:20:38,332
that matter moving up

3317
03:20:38,332 --> 03:20:41,042
any at the committee members and staff were quite Seles

3318
03:20:41,042 --> 03:20:44,752
in moving forward we are celebrating our first inaugural ceremony

3319
03:20:44,752 --> 03:20:47,812
at the ... the pan African flag festival and at

3320
03:20:47,812 --> 03:20:51,072
that festival there were they were also being circulated ...

3321
03:20:51,072 --> 03:20:53,582
end up put up for display so there they'll be

3322
03:20:53,582 --> 03:20:56,262
available at these different locations and at the intent is

3323
03:20:56,262 --> 03:20:59,132
to be able to put basically post them in one

3324
03:20:59,162 --> 03:21:02,582
window to support via it has no place here

3325
03:21:02,582 --> 03:21:06,562
so for businesses from on your car on your home

3326
03:21:06,792 --> 03:21:09,322
so they're out there in a few members of council

3327
03:21:09,972 --> 03:21:12,222
want one will make sure that show you get one

3328
03:21:12,222 --> 03:21:15,882
in ... your next agenda package so ... so I

3329
03:21:15,882 --> 03:21:21,082
need a motion probably just to I just received

3330
03:21:21,082 --> 03:21:24,392
because we already have created them so moved by accounts

3331
03:21:24,392 --> 03:21:28,472
receivable seconded by councillor Fellini all those in favor

3332
03:21:28,472 --> 03:21:30,632
posted that scary and I got I have to tell

3333
03:21:30,632 --> 03:21:33,982
you that yeah great numbers committee was really happy to

3334
03:21:33,982 --> 03:21:37,442
build move forward with this project comments something they've been

3335
03:21:37,442 --> 03:21:40,332
talking about for a while ... as all of us

3336
03:21:40,332 --> 03:21:43,072
know sometimes committees can get really bogged down and and

3337
03:21:43,072 --> 03:21:46,252
don't feel they're moving forward initiatives so they were really

3338
03:21:46,252 --> 03:21:49,092
happy to to see this one happened there was a

3339
03:21:49,092 --> 03:21:53,112
cultural food flyer there was a pan African flag festival

3340
03:21:53,112 --> 03:21:57,722
that was raising and and ... event last week and

3341
03:21:57,962 --> 03:22:01,762
certainly the ... anti racism policy that that membership is

3342
03:22:01,762 --> 03:22:04,172
a game the first step in a in a long

3343
03:22:04,172 --> 03:22:07,062
journey of an anti racism policy but you have to

3344
03:22:07,062 --> 03:22:10,222
start somewhere so I just wanna thank members of council

3345
03:22:10,222 --> 03:22:14,652
for your support and ... moving us forward ... did

3346
03:22:14,652 --> 03:22:17,072
we vote on that I think we did I can't

3347
03:22:17,072 --> 03:22:20,572
remember I'm getting my brains punching okay so moving on

3348
03:22:20,572 --> 03:22:23,662
to the last one Georgina trails and active transportation advisory

3349
03:22:23,662 --> 03:22:27,602
committee requesting staff investigate the use of a trail captain

3350
03:22:27,602 --> 03:22:30,222
program in Georgina

3351
03:22:30,222 --> 03:22:32,632
and I'm not sure councillor wanted in your on this

3352
03:22:32,632 --> 03:22:37,382
committee any comments M. A. M. but ... this was

3353
03:22:38,392 --> 03:22:41,392
actually voted we're sorry brought forward by ... not only

3354
03:22:41,392 --> 03:22:44,392
Bob Ferguson of the town ... apart from it but

3355
03:22:44,392 --> 03:22:46,602
... concert Siebel so I don't still nobody thought okay

3356
03:22:46,602 --> 03:22:49,972
side really endorse it I forgot accounts receivables on the

3357
03:22:49,972 --> 03:22:53,912
committee to councillor stable you want to speak to this

3358
03:22:53,912 --> 03:22:57,712
thank you through Medicare ... certainly this is a an

3359
03:22:57,712 --> 03:23:01,462
initiative that was brought to our attention by Mr Ferguson

3360
03:23:01,492 --> 03:23:05,062
... having been ... employed in the township of Bucks

3361
03:23:05,062 --> 03:23:07,732
first which touts itself as a trail capital of Canada

3362
03:23:08,272 --> 03:23:11,002
and they use the trail captain program there was some

3363
03:23:11,002 --> 03:23:14,482
success so he was very supportive of the idea and

3364
03:23:14,512 --> 03:23:18,852
therefore the trails and active transportation advisory committee felt it

3365
03:23:18,852 --> 03:23:22,552
prudent to request a staff investigate utilizing that trail captain

3366
03:23:22,552 --> 03:23:25,392
program here in Virginia okay so the two of you

3367
03:23:25,392 --> 03:23:30,432
are moving and seconding endorsing this being investigated okay move

3368
03:23:30,432 --> 03:23:33,262
job accounts receivable second by council Washington all those in

3369
03:23:33,262 --> 03:23:34,962
favor

3370
03:23:34,962 --> 03:23:37,102
hose and that's scary

3371
03:23:37,102 --> 03:23:40,472
okay general information items on page two eleven was anything

3372
03:23:40,472 --> 03:23:45,162
else be removed for discussion Madame clerk

3373
03:23:45,162 --> 03:23:47,272
no it was not not America okay so I need

3374
03:23:47,272 --> 03:23:52,192
a motion to receive the general information items moved by

3375
03:23:52,192 --> 03:23:54,532
read accounts across the second by council Harding all those

3376
03:23:54,532 --> 03:23:56,452
in favor

3377
03:23:56,452 --> 03:23:59,812
lows and that's carried briefly knows we've got the approval

3378
03:23:59,812 --> 03:24:02,732
of the economic development grant applications on page two hundred

3379
03:24:02,952 --> 03:24:05,832
to twelve is there any questions or comments on that

3380
03:24:05,832 --> 03:24:09,932
one if not a motion to receive moved by councillor

3381
03:24:09,932 --> 03:24:15,442
Fellini seconded by councillor CBOE all those in favor opposed

3382
03:24:15,442 --> 03:24:20,632
and that's carried there's no committee of adjustment planning matters

3383
03:24:20,632 --> 03:24:22,902
there's some I don't think any motions are notices of

3384
03:24:22,902 --> 03:24:28,692
motions are either on Madame clerk

3385
03:24:28,692 --> 03:24:32,462
no there are not okay regional business anything you want

3386
03:24:32,462 --> 03:24:35,302
to bring forward at this time regional council grassy

3387
03:24:35,302 --> 03:24:39,552
okay and other business there wasn't any business I think

3388
03:24:39,552 --> 03:24:42,332
that was left on done on this meeting are we

3389
03:24:42,332 --> 03:24:47,372
have the one two three four bylaws twenty a motion

3390
03:24:47,372 --> 03:24:52,582
for those for bylaws moved by councillor Waddington's seconded by

3391
03:24:52,582 --> 03:24:55,792
read accounts across the all those in favor ... that's

3392
03:24:55,792 --> 03:24:59,282
carried we do have a closed session so I need

3393
03:24:59,282 --> 03:25:02,522
a motion to move into closed session of council um

3394
03:25:02,692 --> 03:25:06,762
first item is the approval closed session minutes second is

3395
03:25:06,762 --> 03:25:10,802
item B. as a position plan procedure criteria or instruction

3396
03:25:10,802 --> 03:25:13,762
to be applied to any negotiations carried on or to

3397
03:25:13,762 --> 03:25:15,542
be carried on

3398
03:25:15,542 --> 03:25:18,292
on B. R. on behalf of the municipality or local

3399
03:25:18,662 --> 03:25:21,792
board section two three nine two K. the municipal act

3400
03:25:22,242 --> 03:25:25,492
this is regards to negotiations on the Garrett style servicing

3401
03:25:25,872 --> 03:25:29,822
items C. is litigation or potential litigation including matters before

3402
03:25:29,822 --> 03:25:34,442
administrative tribunals affecting the municipality or local board section two

3403
03:25:34,442 --> 03:25:37,662
three nine two C. D. two E. R. the minutes

3404
03:25:37,662 --> 03:25:39,582
but this is an update on the path allow fire

3405
03:25:39,582 --> 03:25:44,552
hall and item D. as a proposal pending acquisition or

3406
03:25:44,552 --> 03:25:47,632
disposition of land by the municipality or local board section

3407
03:25:47,632 --> 03:25:50,352
two three nine to see the municipal act this is

3408
03:25:50,352 --> 03:25:53,692
the river ridge drive property motion going to closed session

3409
03:25:53,692 --> 03:25:55,652
moved by

3410
03:25:55,652 --> 03:25:59,452
councillor Waddington seconded by

3411
03:25:59,452 --> 03:26:02,202
councillor Harding all those in favor

3412
03:26:02,202 --> 03:26:05,742
lows and that's carried so we'll go into closed session

3413
03:26:05,772 --> 03:26:09,282
and we'll come back out and rise in report

3414
03:26:09,282 --> 03:26:11,512
in a little bit

3415
03:26:11,512 --> 03:26:13,272
and we were in closed session we all make sure

3416
04:09:31,251 --> 04:09:34,021
we're ready to get okay I need a motion to

3417
04:09:34,021 --> 04:09:37,301
reconvene into open session of council report on matters discussed

3418
04:09:37,301 --> 04:09:41,321
in closed session moved by councillor Waddington's seconded by councillor

3419
04:09:41,321 --> 04:09:43,811
Harding all those in favor

3420
04:09:43,811 --> 04:09:46,511
close that's carried Madame clerk a let you go through

3421
04:09:46,511 --> 04:09:49,561
the reporting out

3422
04:09:49,561 --> 04:09:51,621
thank you Madame

3423
04:09:51,621 --> 04:09:54,371
in regard to closed session item eighteen when a on

3424
04:09:54,371 --> 04:09:57,831
the agenda being adoption of closed session minutes regional council

3425
04:09:57,831 --> 04:10:00,851
rusty previously declared a pecuniary interests and will not be

3426
04:10:00,851 --> 04:10:03,041
taking part in the about in the vote to adopt

3427
04:10:03,041 --> 04:10:07,551
the reference minutes that council adopted following minutes June ninth

3428
04:10:07,551 --> 04:10:11,491
July fourteenth October sixth October twenty seventh twenty twenty one

3429
04:10:11,791 --> 04:10:15,021
and January twelfth March thirtieth and April sixth twenty twenty

3430
04:10:15,021 --> 04:10:16,531
two

3431
04:10:16,531 --> 04:10:18,451
so I need to move in a second ... for

3432
04:10:18,661 --> 04:10:21,131
adopting those minutes moved by council one in the second

3433
04:10:21,131 --> 04:10:24,541
by council for Laney all those in favor

3434
04:10:24,541 --> 04:10:27,091
opposed and that's Kerry please note the regional council crossing

3435
04:10:27,091 --> 04:10:30,991
did not vote or discuss that item next Mr you

3436
04:10:31,211 --> 04:10:33,721
Madame closed session item H. U. one A. on the

3437
04:10:33,721 --> 04:10:37,151
agenda being the adoption of closed session minutes regional council

3438
04:10:37,151 --> 04:10:40,811
crossing councillor Fellini previously declared trust I will not be

3439
04:10:40,811 --> 04:10:43,191
taking part in the vote to adopt the reference minutes

3440
04:10:43,741 --> 04:10:48,111
that council adopted following minutes may nineteenth twenty twenty one

3441
04:10:48,111 --> 04:10:49,861
I need a mover in a second ... for those

3442
04:10:49,861 --> 04:10:52,591
minutes moved by council wanted in second by council Harding

3443
04:10:52,951 --> 04:10:55,061
all those in favor

3444
04:10:55,061 --> 04:10:57,841
... is that's carried in please note that councillor Fellini

3445
04:10:57,841 --> 04:11:01,071
regional council Rossi did not interested in any discussion or

3446
04:11:01,071 --> 04:11:02,761
the vote

3447
04:11:02,761 --> 04:11:05,611
thank you Madame merit this point we will need help

3448
04:11:05,611 --> 04:11:08,001
or seek out to take over as chair charter accounts

3449
04:11:08,001 --> 04:11:10,491
receivable years

3450
04:11:10,491 --> 04:11:13,981
thank you through marinera will take over the chair momentarily

3451
04:11:13,981 --> 04:11:17,961
here ... through you madam clerk what what are we

3452
04:11:17,961 --> 04:11:20,571
working on at this point in regard to close session

3453
04:11:20,571 --> 04:11:22,971
item eighteen when a on the agenda being it optional

3454
04:11:22,971 --> 04:11:27,001
closed session minutes network and regional council grassy previously declared

3455
04:11:27,001 --> 04:11:29,191
a pecuniary interest I will not be taking part of

3456
04:11:29,191 --> 04:11:33,171
your folks to adopt the reference minutes council document the

3457
04:11:33,171 --> 04:11:37,101
following minutes may twenty fifth twenty twenty two

3458
04:11:37,101 --> 04:11:39,671
thank you so here are a motion and seconded about

3459
04:11:39,671 --> 04:11:43,171
those minutes moved by Kelso Washington seconded by councillor Harding

3460
04:11:43,501 --> 04:11:46,861
all those in favor

3461
04:11:46,861 --> 04:11:48,881
motion carried and I will turn the chair back overview

3462
04:11:48,881 --> 04:11:50,411
about America

3463
04:11:50,411 --> 04:11:53,561
perfect thank you Madame clerk

3464
04:11:53,561 --> 04:11:56,101
we're going to close session item eighty one and it's

3465
04:11:56,101 --> 04:12:00,441
optional closed session minutes that the that council adopted following

3466
04:12:00,441 --> 04:12:04,171
February third February twenty fourth April fourteenth April twenty eighth

3467
04:12:04,171 --> 04:12:08,431
may fifth June twenty third August eleventh September night September

3468
04:12:08,431 --> 04:12:13,541
fifteenth September twenty second September twenty ninth November third November

3469
04:12:13,541 --> 04:12:17,621
seventeenth December eighth and December fifteenth twenty twenty one and

3470
04:12:17,621 --> 04:12:21,271
February second February sixteenth March second March twenty third April

3471
04:12:21,271 --> 04:12:24,831
thirteenth April twenty seventh may fourth may eleventh may eighteenth

3472
04:12:24,871 --> 04:12:28,241
June twenty second July twenty third twenty twenty two

3473
04:12:28,241 --> 04:12:30,811
okay that's a lot I need a mover in a

3474
04:12:30,811 --> 04:12:34,501
second ... moved by

3475
04:12:34,501 --> 04:12:37,171
also what it in second by council Fellini all those

3476
04:12:37,171 --> 04:12:38,911
in favor

3477
04:12:38,911 --> 04:12:42,191
close and that's carried

3478
04:12:42,191 --> 04:12:44,621
in regard to closed session item eighteen one be on

3479
04:12:44,621 --> 04:12:47,201
the agenda under section two thirty nine to cap the

3480
04:12:47,201 --> 04:12:51,561
municipal act being a position plan procedure criteria or instruction

3481
04:12:51,561 --> 04:12:54,861
to be applied to any negotiations carried on or to

3482
04:12:54,861 --> 04:12:57,781
be carried on by or on behalf of the municipality

3483
04:12:57,781 --> 04:13:02,331
or local board regarding negotiations carousel servicing that council direct

3484
04:13:02,331 --> 04:13:05,431
staff in this list search proceed accordingly I need to

3485
04:13:05,431 --> 04:13:09,331
move on a second ... for that moved by

3486
04:13:09,331 --> 04:13:13,711
accounts receivable second by council Fellini all those in favor

3487
04:13:13,711 --> 04:13:17,111
... send that's carried the next one in regard to

3488
04:13:17,111 --> 04:13:19,631
closed session item eighteen wanna see on the agenda under

3489
04:13:19,631 --> 04:13:22,411
section two thirty nine to eat the municipal act being

3490
04:13:22,411 --> 04:13:26,901
litigation or potential litigation including matters before administrative tribunals affecting

3491
04:13:26,901 --> 04:13:30,891
the municipality or local boards regarding petrol acquired whole that

3492
04:13:30,891 --> 04:13:33,471
council received the solicitor's update

3493
04:13:33,471 --> 04:13:35,201
I need a mover to center on that move by

3494
04:13:35,201 --> 04:13:37,721
council Harding seconded by

3495
04:13:37,721 --> 04:13:40,581
L. 30 all those in favor

3496
04:13:40,581 --> 04:13:43,191
that's carried

3497
04:13:43,191 --> 04:13:45,341
in regard to closed session item eighteen one D. on

3498
04:13:45,341 --> 04:13:48,181
the agenda under section two thirty ninety CM the municipal

3499
04:13:48,181 --> 04:13:51,471
act being a proposed or pending acquisition or disposition of

3500
04:13:51,471 --> 04:13:54,741
land by the municipality or local board regarding regrets drive

3501
04:13:55,151 --> 04:13:58,161
that council direct staff to proceed accordingly

3502
04:13:58,161 --> 04:14:00,201
I need to move on a second for that moved

3503
04:14:00,201 --> 04:14:04,151
by councillor Laney second by councillor Sybil all those in

3504
04:14:04,151 --> 04:14:05,811
favor

3505
04:14:05,811 --> 04:14:08,711
opposed and that's carried

3506
04:14:08,711 --> 04:14:12,181
okay thank you and we are at the end of

3507
04:14:12,181 --> 04:14:14,881
the meeting and I just need a confirming by long

3508
04:14:14,961 --> 04:14:18,351
moved by council which accounts across the seconded by councillor

3509
04:14:18,351 --> 04:14:21,901
Harding all those in favor close that's carried a motion

3510
04:14:21,901 --> 04:14:24,771
to adjourn

3511
04:14:24,771 --> 04:14:26,261
nobody

3512
04:14:26,261 --> 04:14:28,551
cal's are hurting and regional council grassy all those in

3513
04:14:28,551 --> 04:14:31,991
favor opposed that's Kerry thanks very much everybody enjoy the

3514
04:14:31,991 --> 04:14:34,741
rest of another beautiful summer day and we'll see you