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All right, welcome everybody, and welcome to tonight's meeting of the City of Germantown Planning Commission. My name is John McCree. I'll be serving as your chairman today. We're going to begin the seat of his meeting with a roll call to establish a quorum.

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Miss Attic, if you would, would you proceed, please?

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Miss Sisson.

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Here.

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Mr. Bacon.

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Here.

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Mr. Sloan.

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Mr. Clark.

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Here.

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Mr. Jacobs.

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Here.

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Alderman Salvagio.

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Here.

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Chairman McRerry.

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Mayor Pavalozolo.

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All right, thank you.

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We have a quorum.

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All right.

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The agenda item number three is to make a welcome to everybody.

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And I'd like to remind everyone, we've got a composite today's agenda located online.

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If you go to the Germantown City Calendar, you can refer to it on one of your electronic devices and access that for today's meeting if needed.

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As a matter of courtesy for those watching online and for those of you who are new to the room tonight, I'll explain our normal procedures.

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The item number to the case from today's agenda will be read by myself, the chairperson, staff will then give their report.

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After the staff report, commission members will be able to ask questions of staff.

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Following the Commission questions and clearifications of staff, we will have a presentation

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by the applicant.

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After that presentation by the applicant, the Commission's WBAS questions of the applicant

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at that time.

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Once the Commissioners' questions of the applicant are complete, we will then break into a

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public hearing for the agenda items required by state law, and the public will be given

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a chance to make comments for or against the agenda item.

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Once the public comments are complete, we will go back to the regular agenda and our vice

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here we'll make a motion and we'll get a second and at that time the members of the commission

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will discuss the case, make comments and once the commission discussions and comments

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are complete, we'll ask for a roll call vote.

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So if you wish to make comments on any item on today's agenda, if you would please fill out

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a citizens to be heard, sheet and bring it forward and hand it to one of our staff members,

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located in the front of the chamber and when that item is called and we move to the public

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here in person, the agenda item you'll be given an opportunity to make your comments.

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You know, we've got a lot of people here tonight, which is, I'm thankful for, sometimes

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the room is empty, and you kind of wonder, so it's good to see the process work.

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And the way it is is we have three minutes for each person with a maximum of 15 for each

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side.

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I'm conscious of the fact that you take time off of your work and all the way from your families

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and I know you want to speak.

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I would just tell you that I've got bowels and procedures that I've got to follow.

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It wouldn't be anything personal if you were the next person to speak.

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and we ran out of time.

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Obviously, if you're in my position,

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I think you do the same thing.

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At the same time, I'm conscious of the fact

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that you want to speak.

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I'll give a little latitude in that regard.

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Probably stick pretty close on the three minutes.

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When we get to about 245,

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I'll probably give you a heads-up,

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let you know your times approaching.

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But again, if we end up with one or two people

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after the 15 minutes, it's still me to speak.

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Certainly, I'll try to indulge that for you.

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You know, relatively bright bunch up here.

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I think if seven people in the row

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come and tell us we have a traffic problem. I'm pretty sure we're going to understand that after the

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fifth or sixth person. If you have a point once we get through a lot of the speakers that's

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salient to a different point, certainly welcome that, but just be constant the fact that we have

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your letters. We understand your concerns. We do want you to speak, but we do need to hold within those

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time frames if it all possible. If anyone here has any public comments to be made that are not

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your main to the case that we have before us tonight, you'll have the opportunity to be heard in

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that regard on the citizen comments that will be on agenda item 8A.

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So if you have something that's nothing to do with voter on school and you just want

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to talk about something, you'll do that under 8A.

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If you're here to speak on voter on school when we get to that particular item, I'll break

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for the public hearing and you'll be given your opportunity.

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We will do the people who are for the application first, then we'll do the people who are

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who have concerns on the application in there will be second.

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At this point, I'd like to read our conflict of interest statement.

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The degree procedure of the Germantown Planning Commission asks that any member of the board

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recuse himself or herself from any participation in the discussion or voting on any matter

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on the meetings agenda in which he or she may have a director, indirect, personal financial interest.

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That member shall vacate his or her seat during deliberations on any matter from which they recuse themselves,

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and abstention may be used as a substitute for a refusal for the purposes of us maintaining a quorum.

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Lastly, I'd like to ask everybody to sound your cell phone so we don't interrupt today's proceedings.

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So with our procedures explained, we're going to move forward to the approval of our minutes.

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We've had a couple of members of our commission who all-phone have missed a couple of meetings here or there,

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and would not be comfortable with voting on the agenda for those items individually or collectively as a group.

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So I'm going to call them individually.

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Can I please get a motion to approve the minutes of the May 21st, 2026 sketch plan meeting?

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So, we have a motion.

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I have a second.

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Second.

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All right, we have a second.

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Is there any discussion about the May 21st, 2026, sketch plan minutes?

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All right, hearing none of them were ready to vote, get a roll call, please?

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Mr. Sison? Yes. Mr. Bacon? Yes.

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Mr. Sloan? Yes.

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Mr. Clark? Yes.

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Mr. Jacob? Yes.

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Alderman Salbadgell? Yes.

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Chairman McRory? Yes.

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Mayor Ballazolo. Yes.

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All right, thank you, that is approved. Now, may I get a motion for the June 2nd, 2026,

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to work session minutes.

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Move to approve.

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Have a second.

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Any discussion?

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I please call the roll.

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Miss Susan?

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Yes.

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Mr. Bacon?

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Mr. Sloan?

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Mr. Clark?

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Yes.

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Mr. Jacobs?

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Yes.

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Alderman Salphagio?

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Chairman Recreary?

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Mayor Paul is old up.

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Yes.

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Thank you.

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I now may get a motion for the July 7th,

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2026 planning commission meeting minutes.

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move to approve and a second please.

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Any discussion?

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Please call the roll.

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Mr. Baker.

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Mr. Sloan.

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Mr. Clark.

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Mr. Jacobs.

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Alderman Selbagio.

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Chairman McRerry.

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Mayor Pellas.

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Thank you.

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That motion passes.

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Can I get the.

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A motion to approve the minutes for the August 20th.

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twenty twenty six sketch plan meeting move to prove

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to the second second any any concerns on that in the comments

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all right call roll please

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missing yes

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yes chair member query yes

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Mayor Pellas all out yes

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thank you very much appreciate you all indulging me to call those individually

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All right, item number five's consent agenda, which we do not have one tonight, and we're going to move to item number six, which is the regular agenda. Mr.

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Rosser, any changes to our agenda tonight or anything as part of a director's report you might have?

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Just quickly on the director's report, this Core Leski had the two meetings up prior to the starting of our session tonight on September 15th.

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We'll have a community visioning workshop around our thrive Germantown 2050 comprehensive plan.

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We would like to invite the community out to join us at 630 on the 15th of September.

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For that, that will be at the Great Hall.

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We will have some kids exercises as well as desserts from local bakeries, so we've incentivized it a little bit.

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And then on the 16th, the next night in Old Germantown, we are having a drop-in open house for everyone to come and share their ideas, opinions, etc. around what they would like to see happen in Old Germantown as we've looked to really focus in on that area and that is at the Pickering Center, we're going to have some ice cream, so we'll call that an ice cream social, so we're incentivizing that as well.

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But again, that's just a drop-in to go and work with staff and consultants about your ideas.

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Again, as always, if you can't make it to those events, we are conducting a lot of these ideas online

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at our city's website and the plans page on the website.

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So thank you for that and happy 901 day.

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All right.

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Thank you, Mr. Ross.

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So, at this time, we're going to move to item number 6A, which is the case number of

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project name Bogan School.

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I'm assuming Mr. Ross, you're going to be making the presentation?

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Yes, sir.

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All right.

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Please proceed.

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So, thank you, Chairman, McCrary, members of the Commission.

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Tonight, we are here to consider both the approval of a conditional use permit and a revised

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final site plan for Bodine School at 2432 Yester Oaks Drive, just as a reminder to the planning

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commission. In February of 2026, the Board of Mayor and Alderman approved the zoning

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text amendments that ran through this commission towards the end of 25.

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And in that set of zoning text amendments, we created the conditional use permit.

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That conditional use permit reconsidered the use on appeal that had been going through the board of zoning appeals.

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And brought the conditional uses within residential districts, mostly around churches, schools, other institutional uses,

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to the purview of the planning commissions.

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So the meeting consolidate this step. 2397 shows the required findings for conditional use permit, which are very similar to the way that the Board of Zoning Appeals formally looked at the use on appeal.

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So I'll have that up as we go through this. Also within that section around conditional use permits, we included the revisions to the site plan based on the request for conditional use.

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So that's why this item is in front of you this evening

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as both the conditional use permit request

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for the Bodine's expansion,

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and their revised final site plan

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to include all of that.

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Just as a matter of introduction,

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they are Bodine is looking to add a new expansion

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to their campus on their 5.4 acre property.

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this was founded in 1972, the Bodine School was, this area was annexed into the city of

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Germantown in 1976. In 1982 the DRC approved an 8800 square foot addition to the Bodine

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school building as well as considered that use on appeal that I previously talked about at the

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BZA due to the expansion of the school in a residential easel area.

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In 1982, that expansion was approved in 1983, the BMA approved the expansion contract.

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Jester Oaks has had this main entrance since 1982, 1983.

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In 1997, the DRC approved an accessory structure on the northwest corner of the property.

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In 1999, there was approval for tree removal, landscape provisions, and light pole at the

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near the ground-mounted sign, DRC also approved an addition of 1140 square feet in 2000 and then in 2022 the BZA approved a variance for an accessory structure, which was a dumpster enclosure attached to the existing accessory building to extend beyond the front line of the front line of the front line.

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principal building. So all of the approvals that the Bodine School has received thus far have gone through

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this process that is now in front of you tonight as a conditional use permit. You saw this

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idea of this expansion at your May 21st, 2026 sketch plan committee where you considered this and

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some feedback to the applicant. The applicant invited the neighborhood out from a letter

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on July 7, describing the project, and on July 22, held in neighborhood outreach meeting

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where the project plans were presented. This information, along with the attendance and meeting

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notes is in your packet this evening.

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So they are requesting to expand. We the application

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would go for an expansion of this, it included a traffic analysis to talk about how the expansion

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would be mitigated, wanted to look at the rows and columns, so currently they have a total

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number of 100 students. As part of their day school expansion program that's in front

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of you tonight, they expect to over a five-year time frame increase the total number of students

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to 140 students currently they have 29 staff members as part of this program increase they would

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add an additional seven staff members currently the site can only support six cars

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queuing on the site which results in 35 cars queuing off site on yesterday oaks and out on to

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The site plan proposal would take and add 43 cars to Q on-site and a total off-site

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steering on Yester Oaks to 15 cars.

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Just to talk about their year-round programming, they also have a summer program.

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That summer program is divided up into a morning session and an afternoon session.

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Sir, the program serves 120 students. This summer, they had 107 students.

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So they are not going to increase that both by program service or staff number, but they still can only support six

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queueing cars on-site, which results with the overlapping morning and afternoon 48 cars queuing off-site down

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drugs and dogwood.

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With the proposed improvements to the campus,

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they would take, again, 43 cars,

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queuing on-site, and 11 cars would queue off-site.

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So with those numbers in mind, 2397 shows the required

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findings for your consideration of this conditional use

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permit.

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The project will not have a substantial or undo adverse effect on adjacent property, the character of the neighborhood traffic conditions,

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parking utility facilities and other matters affecting the public health safety and general welfare.

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The project will be constructed, arranged and operated so that it's compatible with the immediate vicinity and not interfere with the development and use of adjacent property

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in accordance with the applicable district regulations.

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The project will be served adequately by essential public facilities and services such

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as streets, parking, drainage, disposal, fire protection, emergency services, water and sewer,

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or that the applicant will provide adequately for such services.

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And the project complies with all additional standards imposed on it by any particular provision

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authorizing such use. I'll come back to that as we get to your consideration, but I want you to take a look and this is also in your packet of the existing condition survey and you'll notice that this is the area where they're able to queue. This is that six-car area. The revised final site plan that's part of their application in front of you tonight is

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is adding this queuing area as well as this addition.

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So when we look at this and we think about how this conforms with the zoning standards

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for the residential area, which they're asking for, this proposed building area is an expansion

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of 23,000 square feet.

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The building height would stay within the residential 35 feet proposed building addition height would be at 23 feet.

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Their impervious surface use conforms with the design review commissions standards and their lock coverage conforms with the same.

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They meet the bulk regulation requirements for parking based on their use.

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They meet the bulk regulation requirements on the set-fax standards for the residential area.

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They're providing currently 33 spaces.

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The required parking for their proposed expansion is just under 42 spaces.

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They're proposing 66 spaces, so they're doubling the current parking that they have on site and then they will provide some bicycle parking as well.

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This is the conceptual building renderings for this addition, and this is the circulation plan.

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So this is at six car queuing and then circulation around for pick-up and exit.

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So this would be the proposed circulation pick-up plan.

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When we start to think about the routing, people would be coming off of dogwood,

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down yesteroks, onto campus, queuing up, picking up in this area,

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and then leading yesteroks and exiting back out onto Dogwood Road.

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Under current queuing conditions, the green represents those six cars, the red represents

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the queuing on yesteroks out on the Dogwood and the blue is the additional-

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Observe cars for the summer program. When they applied the projected queuing conditions and the 43 vehicles that they were taking on site, you can see that the queuing of the 15 cars taking into consideration, not parking in front of driveways, doesn't extend past the end of yesterday's oaks.

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There's actually 17 vehicle capacity when you take it down all the way.

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The blue shows the 11 vehicles offsite for the summer program when you consider the morning and afternoon programs.

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So most of their parking will be taken on site as part of their campus expansion as it's proposed to you this evening.

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Also, as part of the site plan is their review of the city's tree plan, they went through

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this in detail.

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They followed the ordinance to the letter as outlined in the staff report.

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They surveyed and provided an arborist report for the majority of the campus.

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The area in the dust line was a little too dense and a little too covered up with poison ivy

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for the arborist to safely get back there.

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But at the end of the day, they provided a plan that conformed with the vegetation ordinance.

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They found that their proposed planting would be 51 trees

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with 21 trees worthy of retention.

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They are going to be removing a significant amount of trees

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that were not deemed worthy of retention

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under the city's vegetation ordinance,

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so sweet gums, et cetera.

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But they are keeping 21 trees that are defined

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as worthy of retention by the ordinance.

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The ordinance, as reviewed, requires 16 trees per acre.

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with 5.4 acres that comes up to about 87 trees as we round up in the vegetation

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ordinance. So they would be required to mitigate 15 trees based on the shortage

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that they have when you have 21 and 51 at 72. So they would come up short 15 trees and

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So the mitigation fee is calculated by the ordinance is $500 per tree at three inches.

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So their mitigation following the ordinance to the letter is $7,500 and so that's what

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they're proposing to pay.

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They're not asking for any relief on the tree mitigation and again they are not asking

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for any site plan relief variances on their site plan.

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I do have the fire marshal as well as the city engineer

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and staff.

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I do want to say the planning manager in the school

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or Leski as well as Lillian Haddock planner

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with the city did a significant amount of this work

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and worked with the applicant on this plan.

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I have been a group effort to get us here this evening and so we are all available to answer any questions that you might have.

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All right.

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Thank you, Dr. Ross.

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We're going to get two questions for staff at this time but we're going to take a little moment.

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You folks in the back are you concerned about interfering with the procedure you want to come forward now.

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Sit down or you prefer to stay in the back.

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I know you don't want to be on the front row just like in high school math.

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They always picked on me and I was, when I good at that,

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all right, thank y'all.

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All right, so at this time, we'll turn the floor over to our commissioners, have any questions

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for the applicant members to know discussions or questions only?

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Anybody questions per staff?

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Commissioner Sisson?

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I just want to review something that was discussed at length at the executive session regarding

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and yes or oaks in its classification that it meets where the monotes go that it, while it

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is not currently operating as a, what kind of street, it's not currently operating as that.

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It meets the requirements for that type of a street and the reason it's not operating is

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because of its lack of joining to us.

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While the city engineer makes her way up here to get into the details for you, as outlined in your staff report, the code 2328 talks about conditional use permits, being on a route designated as either a major or collector street.

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BoDine was founded in 72, expanded in 82, and Yesteroke was physically constructed to be a collector street.

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So that's why it is currently there, but I'll let Miss Allen get into the particulars of that.

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To recap what Director Ross just mentioned, this street is not currently designated as a collector.

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It was originally constructed to design standards, to meet the eligibility to become a collector.

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And the city's most recent major road plan update.

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There was not a need for that collector, so it was not shown as a proposed collector.

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Is that satisfactory answer?

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So I was going to brought it up in an executive committee and what I was concerned about was I just want to make sure for the benefit of the letters and the emails that I received.

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You know there was very specific some of them capital letters.

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Yes, drugs is not a collector street therefore both on school is ineligible for remodels, whatever the case may be.

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But I don't think that's, again like I said early I'm not trying to have a stake in a grand legally but from anything I understand.

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I've been in the business 39 years, developed a lot of subdivisions.

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I think I understand my roads pretty well.

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The MPO doesn't designate it currently as a collector because it doesn't connect.

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If by some stretch of the imagination, again, not pushing it would ever happen, it did connect.

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The designation of it being a collector would be re-instituted in a likelihood by the MPO

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because while we have the form of the road going to your point,

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we don't have the function, but if the function did pick back up,

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it would be redesigned as a collector.

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The point being, it's not prohibited to be a collector.

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And that was the message it was in the letters to me.

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It is not a collector, and I want to make sure on the record on that.

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That is correct.

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There's nothing that prohibits it currently to become a collector in the future.

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In the future, if there's any development that is made,

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additional connections that are made, the MPO and Federal Highways may re-evaluate and

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designate it at a as a collector at that time, but there's nothing currently that we're

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hitted that.

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Thank you.

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All right.

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Commissioner Jacobs.

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I can have one more thing just.

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Yes, sir.

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Dr. Grosch.

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I think it's important as you mentioned form and function, the form of the road does have enough

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to support parking on both sides as well as two-way traffic along with sidewalks.

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So, again, it's designed for to carry a significant amount of traffic, although it does not do so at this time.

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Okay, thank you for that clarification.

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Commissioner Jacob.

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If I made to help clarify some more, would you explain why the zoning code now, if some more

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to come in new with a proposal to build a school and then excuse them. We're looking for

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conditional use permit. It would have to be on a collector's street. Why do we want it on a collector's street?

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That is a great question commissioner Jacobs. I do not have the answer. I would have to defer to

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direct a loss or counsel on why that is in our code?

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So I'm gonna tell myself a little bit,

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but I think that the intention when that was written

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into the code was to the point that we just made around form.

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But transportation engineers, engineers,

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think about function over form.

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and so the function can change and so we may need to explore a zoning

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text amendment in the future to consider this absolute of it being on a collector street.

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The other consideration about collector streets is that they conduct a

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significant amount of traffic at significant amount of speeds.

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This Allen has conducted a review of the speeds on the street

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and as seen.

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And that the majority go lower than the posted speed in this area, that 85th percentile? I think I have that right.

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If I may be in an engineer that's exactly what my impression was, that we were interested in putting in an zoning code.

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We were interested in having the functional capability, but the idea of it actually being a collector and operating a collector might be a detriment because of the speed increase in a traffic increase that could occur.

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So, we have to consider all of that when we look at this application, my opinion.

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Do you agree?

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Yes, I do.

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Thank you.

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Planners and engineers have learned how to discuss things out since 1986.

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Thank you, Commissioner Jacobs, any other questions?

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Commissioner Sloan?

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A quick question about the queuing on yesterdays going out to dogwood on the different

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models that you showed.

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One thing when driving yesterday, because you see cars parked on the road,

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some of the residents park on the street.

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One was that taken into consideration in your new model,

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or has that even possible to take into consideration.

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Parking, I'm sorry, ask.

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So I guess the residents were just

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for our parking on the street.

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It's a public street, so the queuing can occur.

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Residents can park out there, this took into consideration

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that there was no parking by residents on the street, but going back to the form, you can

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queue up on both sides of the street and two-way traffic can still function safely out there.

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Okay, and then did fire speak into the queueing?

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I guess the first is the way it is today, versus the abilities to have everyone, yes, for

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of the folks versus Dogwood.

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Is there any concerns or comments from police or fire?

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I'll let fire march of starings address that.

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Thank you.

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We have looked at the proposed queueing.

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Obviously schools are challenging no matter which school it is during pick up and drop off.

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The difference is that typically the driver is still in the car and are capable of moving

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If we need to get in in emergency, but looking at the proposed queuing map, with their proposed

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queuing plan, we can still enter on the north side of the drive to be able to get into the school,

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even at the cars or queueed back, you know, and they don't have a whole lot of options to go.

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We can still get there, and we would rely on the school officials to assist in emergency situation

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and you know, getting those vehicles out of the way if they know we're coming.

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So we have looked at it, and we don't believe access is going to be a major issue for us in

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our emergency situation.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Commissioner Sloan, you also mentioned police.

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We did reach out to the lieutenant who is in charge of school traffic, and asked him about

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this.

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He met with the school out on site and assessed the current traffic situation and is working

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together with the school to provide some options for a better current traffic situation at that

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intersection of dogwood and guest roads.

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Thank you.

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Any other questions for the staff?

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Yes, ma'am.

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Commissioner Susan.

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I wanted to ask, there was, with the enrollment, the requirements are that it be 200 students or less.

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So this application, even at the expanded number, is below the allowed number, would this school,

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what would the school need to do if they decided, instead of 140 students, they were going

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to do 150 students or 200 students, as long as they're within that 200 limit, do they have

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to come back and ask for additional approval for those additional students?

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So, by the ordinance, 23, 230 schools in single family are zoning districts as you pointed out,

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minimum of five acres, maximum enrollment of 200 students were at just under 5.4 and

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they're saying that they're projected to increase an enrollment over the next five years

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would be up to 140, and so I believe that you would have to confirm this with the applicant that that's where they plan to stop, that this expansion is only going.

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To support that number of students in the way that they conduct their operations.

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But I think Ms. Gorlesky, anything you'd like to hand?

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Well, and I think if they would want to expand, that they would need to come back for their conditional use permit to be reviewed once more,

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because this is not a by-right use because it's residential, it's a conditional use.

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So each time it intensifies, it needs to come back for review again.

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Because, to Miss Gorlesky's point, this is a conditional use permit.

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It's not just based on the site plan, so if they were to go from 140 to 1.99, that would

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again hit their conditional use permit because when you look at the findings that the

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planning commission considers as part of a conditional use permit, that could trigger some

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those based on queuing or other issues that we're not here present tonight.

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It's part of this discussion.

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Thank you.

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I'm sorry.

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One more question for last one.

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There's been some notations about flooding concerns and drainage concerns.

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Can you speak to that in the application or any city concerns that you have on those issues?

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I'll once again turn the mic over to Miss Allen.

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The city does have a active capital improvements project where we are evaluating the localized flooding in the area of Redwood Trail.

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The city did higher consultant to provide an analysis of what was contributing all the factors contributing to the flooding of those residents in the area.

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And one of the alternatives that our consultant looked at was the water coming from this area of the Bodine school to see how much that contributed to the downstream flooding.

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And through working with the consultant it was identified that providing additional detention or just solely relying on detention from this property would not alleviate all the flooding downstream.

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So, this city's capital project is looking into additional ways to mitigate those flooding.

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The school has put together a grading plan and has discussed with the engineering department,

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regarding over-datening where they can making connections so that it does alleviate that flooding

453
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or in the erosion immediately adjacent to their property.

454
00:37:41,720 --> 00:37:43,950
All right, thank you.

455
00:37:44,540 --> 00:37:45,160
Vice Chair Baker?

456
00:37:50,770 --> 00:37:52,970
This is a question Mr. Ross of the applicant.

457
00:37:54,010 --> 00:37:56,030
But in the sketch plan meeting,

458
00:37:56,090 --> 00:37:59,370
there was a discussion about traffic on windyokes.

459
00:37:59,890 --> 00:38:02,750
Windyokes is obviously not a collector street.

460
00:38:02,850 --> 00:38:05,810
And I think there was some measure of consideration.

461
00:38:05,810 --> 00:38:07,430
Yeah, if you could go back.

462
00:38:08,890 --> 00:38:12,490
By the applicant to accommodate traffic on windyokes

463
00:38:12,490 --> 00:38:16,050
and then to cut back over and come in from the south

464
00:38:16,050 --> 00:38:31,730
And I guess my bigger point is there's really no rules that can be applied to where a student's car has to, or a family's car has to queue.

465
00:38:32,170 --> 00:38:37,150
I mean, you can contemplate queuing from dogwood and then coming down esterokes.

466
00:38:37,770 --> 00:38:42,490
But traffic can come from anywhere and queue in the neighborhood.

467
00:38:42,490 --> 00:38:52,610
Yeah sir, to your point, traffic is like water, it will fly away to there, but the important

468
00:38:52,610 --> 00:39:01,130
art is that the school is not proposing that Wendy Oaks be an alternative entrance, that

469
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:12,470
while they talked about that is almost a concert at Tape of Plan for- Look at how light

470
00:39:12,470 --> 00:39:21,210
have proposed in the way that they will work with their students, parents, grandparents, etc.

471
00:39:21,910 --> 00:39:29,350
is to operate on this model of queuing along windy oaks and taking advantage of excuse me,

472
00:39:29,550 --> 00:39:35,230
queuing on yesterday oaks and repraise that again, queuing on yesterday oaks.

473
00:39:36,050 --> 00:39:38,290
Are there bike lanes or that bike lanes on yesterday oaks?

474
00:39:38,290 --> 00:39:40,450
There are not bike lanes on Yesteroks.

475
00:39:40,870 --> 00:39:42,650
There are bike lanes out on Dogwood

476
00:39:42,650 --> 00:39:47,130
where some of this queuing does occur right now.

477
00:39:48,010 --> 00:39:51,970
But there are no bike lanes on Yesteroks.

478
00:39:52,230 --> 00:39:56,670
But the queuing offsite of 15 vehicles,

479
00:39:57,970 --> 00:39:59,950
not sitting in front of driveway is because there's

480
00:40:01,460 --> 00:40:14,340
There were, they've considered driveways. So capacity for 17 with the consideration of driveways, and that's just one side with 43 additional cars taken on site for QA.

481
00:40:15,560 --> 00:40:26,120
And is in one last question. So is the QA analysis supported by study, is anybody or the school just, where is this coming from?

482
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:34,500
The applicant has worked with Kimley Corn and Kimley Corn is here with the applicant tonight, so they can make it get more interesting.

483
00:40:35,820 --> 00:40:36,620
Thank you.

484
00:40:36,620 --> 00:40:37,080
All right.

485
00:40:37,500 --> 00:40:38,280
Thank you, Vice Chair Baker.

486
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:40,520
Any other questions for the staff?

487
00:40:41,860 --> 00:40:42,300
All right.

488
00:40:42,580 --> 00:40:43,780
Thank you, Director Ross.

489
00:40:44,500 --> 00:40:49,240
At this time, we would like to get, and if you want, we would like to have an presentation from the applicant.

490
00:40:54,510 --> 00:40:55,510
I see why you're standing now.

491
00:40:56,590 --> 00:40:57,890
We're waiting to run down the aisle here.

492
00:40:57,890 --> 00:41:03,420
If you would give us your name and address for the record, please sir.

493
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:08,880
My name is John Murphy, and I live at 6730 Avington Cove.

494
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,800
I am the head of school of Bowdine.

495
00:41:13,500 --> 00:41:18,840
This is my 11th year at Bowdine, and my 44th year as an educator.

496
00:41:19,360 --> 00:41:23,580
I've been a teacher, a principal, and now head of Bowdine school.

497
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:28,640
Our school is totally focused on teaching students

498
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:31,500
with dyslexia to read and succeed.

499
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,560
dyslexia is a learning disability that affects reading and writing.

500
00:41:37,420 --> 00:41:42,460
Research shows that 20% of people have some degree of dyslexia.

501
00:41:43,240 --> 00:41:49,060
This is one in five people that have serious obstacles in learning to read and write.

502
00:41:49,760 --> 00:41:55,280
For over 50 years, Bodyn has led the Mid-South in helping students to access their education.

503
00:41:55,280 --> 00:41:59,920
Currently, Vodine serves grades 1 through 5.

504
00:42:00,560 --> 00:42:04,000
These grades are the time children learn to read and write.

505
00:42:04,720 --> 00:42:08,500
Children attend Vodine for an average of 2-3 years.

506
00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:13,640
These children leave Vodine reading at or above grade level.

507
00:42:15,440 --> 00:42:21,320
In addition to our day program, we offer a summer reading program for struggling readers.

508
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:28,800
We also offer summer teacher training, and throughout the year we have a lunch and learn programs to

509
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:31,360
weigh to raise awareness about dyslexia.

510
00:42:32,580 --> 00:42:38,700
We wish to give more children this great start to become confident students able to take

511
00:42:38,700 --> 00:42:44,280
on any and all challenges they may face, and we know this generation of children will have

512
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:45,380
challenges ahead.

513
00:42:45,380 --> 00:42:48,660
We are a part of Germantown.

514
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:52,520
20% of our students are Germantown residents.

515
00:42:53,460 --> 00:42:56,940
Botan is contributing to the success of our wonderful community

516
00:42:56,940 --> 00:43:01,140
by remediating these children and helping them to be successful.

517
00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:05,560
Students at Houston Riverdale and any of the

518
00:43:05,560 --> 00:43:08,940
fantastic public and private schools located in Germantown.

519
00:43:10,580 --> 00:43:13,460
Botan wishes to build a student center behind the school.

520
00:43:13,460 --> 00:43:21,360
The Student Center will house a new library, new classrooms, dedicated tutoring carols for

521
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:25,300
individual student therapy, and an indoor recreation space.

522
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:28,520
The project will also include a new playground.

523
00:43:29,340 --> 00:43:34,840
In addition, Bowdon will renovate our current building to add four additional classrooms.

524
00:43:36,100 --> 00:43:41,320
This project will also add more parking spaces and a longer driveway on our campus to accommodate

525
00:43:42,020 --> 00:43:44,820
of over 40 cars for dismissal.

526
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:52,560
The question about the number of students is driven by the number of classrooms that we have.

527
00:43:52,980 --> 00:43:54,400
We currently have 10 classrooms.

528
00:43:55,000 --> 00:43:57,880
Very strict about our number of 10 in a class.

529
00:43:58,080 --> 00:44:01,500
That's very necessary for the type of work that we do in

530
00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:03,600
remediating these children with dyslexia.

531
00:44:04,100 --> 00:44:06,620
And we are seeking to add four more classrooms.

532
00:44:06,620 --> 00:44:22,460
So the number is driven by the number of classrooms and we have given this careful consideration as to the number that we could manage successfully on our campus.

533
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:32,040
So I can't speak for 20 years in the future, but at this time we have no plans to go any further on this particular footprint.

534
00:44:36,900 --> 00:44:43,620
As far as the drainage, I would just like to add that, and the city planners can tell you,

535
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:49,480
this we have worked with the city over and over again offering drainage solutions.

536
00:44:49,600 --> 00:44:52,660
So we've been great partners in that.

537
00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:59,140
We have paid for engineering studies our own to propose detention facilities on our property.

538
00:44:59,140 --> 00:44:59,860
we have offered.

539
00:45:01,300 --> 00:45:12,120
So, and Germantown was very good to work with, and they came back and said, at this time, the consultants have determined that

540
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:23,160
that Bowdoin doesn't offer enough help in the drainage problem. So, I do have a great group of local experts here tonight.

541
00:45:23,160 --> 00:45:26,540
We have Brett Grindr from GTG Construction,

542
00:45:27,500 --> 00:45:29,920
Jarmann Paragoy from Kindly Horn Engineering,

543
00:45:30,740 --> 00:45:32,780
and Todd Walker from Archomania.

544
00:45:33,620 --> 00:45:36,600
So, they have been great partners on this project,

545
00:45:37,540 --> 00:45:42,460
and will be very, very adept at answering any of the specific questions

546
00:45:42,460 --> 00:45:43,900
that you may have.

547
00:45:45,220 --> 00:45:45,700
Thank you.

548
00:45:45,900 --> 00:45:46,780
All right, thank you, sir.

549
00:45:47,160 --> 00:45:48,920
All right, do we have any questions for the applicant

550
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,720
or the applicant's team at this time?

551
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:54,760
Yes, sir, from Mr. Jacobs?

552
00:45:54,760 --> 00:46:01,080
I do have one question, I'm a belabor, the point a little bit, the 140 student maximum.

553
00:46:02,060 --> 00:46:06,680
You made a very strong point that you believe in 10 students per classroom.

554
00:46:08,600 --> 00:46:19,560
Could you ever envision, with this constructed, redesigning some space to make extra classrooms to come back and propose an intended increase?

555
00:46:20,780 --> 00:46:20,880
No.

556
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:30,900
So, we have, we have thought about the plan very carefully and we do have space, we don't have that much space,

557
00:46:31,360 --> 00:46:38,880
so every square inch of what we use now and every square inch of what we're proposing will be used for the purpose of

558
00:46:39,700 --> 00:46:48,520
at the maximum educating 140 students, having an indoor place space, having an art room, having a music room, having a

559
00:46:48,520 --> 00:46:56,300
We're all class library for these kids that need to get excited about reading, but no, there is no.

560
00:46:57,140 --> 00:46:59,020
That's not ever been thought of.

561
00:46:59,460 --> 00:47:03,680
So if we wanted to ask for 150 or 200, that's what we would have done, right?

562
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:09,340
So if it's some time in the future, you would expect that if you wanted to ask for 150,

563
00:47:09,900 --> 00:47:13,140
you would have to come back and ask for a building edition or another building.

564
00:47:14,220 --> 00:47:16,640
Yes, we would have to add space.

565
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:23,620
And once again, I'm only one person, but I've been there 11 years, I'm going to die some

566
00:47:23,620 --> 00:47:28,980
day, but I do not, there are no plans.

567
00:47:29,580 --> 00:47:35,540
We feel very good about the number of students we will have on that campus.

568
00:47:36,520 --> 00:47:41,660
And then sort of along the same lines, this addition is much larger than your existing building

569
00:47:41,660 --> 00:47:48,880
and it's kind of, at first glance, it gives you perhaps a wrong impression.

570
00:47:49,340 --> 00:47:53,400
The reason it's so large is because you're at an indoor recreation space that you don't

571
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:54,400
currently have, correct?

572
00:47:54,940 --> 00:47:55,680
That's correct.

573
00:47:56,180 --> 00:48:00,980
Yeah, I mean, the indoor recreation space, aka Jim, although we're not going to be hosting

574
00:48:00,980 --> 00:48:01,420
tournaments.

575
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,720
It's not going to, it will not affect this around the name of it.

576
00:48:04,900 --> 00:48:06,140
No, no, no, no, no.

577
00:48:06,140 --> 00:48:12,760
We have no interest in our school is so important, it's program.

578
00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:16,380
I've worked in other schools, I'm from anywhere other schools.

579
00:48:16,860 --> 00:48:22,660
You come to Bowdye to get better at reading and writing and then we let you go.

580
00:48:23,520 --> 00:48:28,260
We don't try to hold on to you, there is no graduation, you know, like I said, the average

581
00:48:28,260 --> 00:48:34,440
stage is actually 2.6 years, so between 2 years and 3 years depending on your level

582
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:39,420
of dyslexia when you enter and depending on how well you remediate during that time, which

583
00:48:39,420 --> 00:48:42,220
is, of course, an individual thing, right?

584
00:48:43,380 --> 00:48:48,640
So, even though your, your, your floor space is increasing is more than doubling, it's

585
00:48:48,640 --> 00:48:52,820
because you're adding an indoor or recreation facility, it's not because you're addressing

586
00:48:52,820 --> 00:48:54,420
more classroom space.

587
00:48:55,200 --> 00:48:55,440
Correct.

588
00:48:55,720 --> 00:48:58,960
We have never had a gym to use a more common term.

589
00:48:58,960 --> 00:49:05,300
we've never had a gym, and we're excited about the possibility, we've been cautious about

590
00:49:05,300 --> 00:49:11,240
going outside, you know, as the heat, of course, when it's too cold, when it rains, there

591
00:49:11,240 --> 00:49:15,780
are a number of occasions where we would love to have a place okay kids. You've been working

592
00:49:15,780 --> 00:49:21,580
hard all day, you know, go run around, of course, we have a PE class that always meets outside

593
00:49:21,580 --> 00:49:26,680
when it can, and when it doesn't, we meet, we just, they play games or something like that.

594
00:49:26,680 --> 00:49:34,160
So yes, sir, I would say the experts can take, but I would say at least a third of the building, not more, is probably Jim.

595
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:38,580
Thank you. Yeah. Thanks, sir. Any other questions for the applicant?

596
00:49:39,140 --> 00:49:39,760
Commissioner Clark?

597
00:49:40,540 --> 00:49:48,200
I've got a question. Uh, I guess a question for you if you could just walk us through this traffic flow, if you've got that up there.

598
00:49:49,800 --> 00:49:55,340
How you see traffic coming when pickup is going on, if you can just explain that to us a little bit.

599
00:49:55,340 --> 00:49:59,800
I'm looking at the map, I see that you've got 43 cars queued on your drawing here.

600
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:07,520
When you had six before, just to make it clear for myself and I felt a member's what drop-off it looked like to you.

601
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:20,820
Well, currently, we don't have, but we can get six cars on campus in our driveway, right? And then they go from the end of the driveway and they go to the front of the school and pick up their children and they loop around and they leap.

602
00:50:20,820 --> 00:50:44,800
with this new plan, which we're very excited about, not only having more parking, but also having the ability to queue up 43 cars, so the first car in line will be up there, let me see the corner, right, right, approximately there, yeah, where they are put into their cars.

603
00:50:46,140 --> 00:50:46,700
Yeah,

604
00:50:50,300 --> 00:50:52,940
so, yeah, I'll talk to the lead there.

605
00:50:53,640 --> 00:50:59,460
And so then they will just, the first car would come in, go around, or on the circle, park.

606
00:51:00,100 --> 00:51:03,880
Second car, we're going to, not parks, sorry, stay in their car.

607
00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:10,900
We have parents, some that come early, do their reading, or do whatever they're doing.

608
00:51:11,540 --> 00:51:14,740
The third car comes in, the fourth car comes in.

609
00:51:14,740 --> 00:51:18,540
and we will be able to get 43 cars in here.

610
00:51:19,220 --> 00:51:22,040
Then we start our dismissal at exactly 330.

611
00:51:24,060 --> 00:51:29,780
The dismissal right now with 100 kids can take anywhere from the other day.

612
00:51:29,960 --> 00:51:31,220
I timed it with six minutes.

613
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:33,280
It can take 15 minutes.

614
00:51:33,820 --> 00:51:35,560
We also have after school programs.

615
00:51:35,620 --> 00:51:39,600
As many schools do, we have after care for working parents.

616
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:52,120
And we have a chess club, we have a cheer squad, we have a destination imagination team on missing one.

617
00:51:52,240 --> 00:51:57,340
But anyway, for soccer and the soccer and some kind of sport four days a week.

618
00:51:58,180 --> 00:52:03,460
So, you know, there's rarely every child in the whole school going home at once.

619
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:07,220
And then just to clear this up, drop off is never a problem.

620
00:52:07,220 --> 00:52:07,920
It's staggered.

621
00:52:08,100 --> 00:52:12,100
We opened our doors at 7.30 and we began school at 8.30.

622
00:52:13,740 --> 00:52:15,540
And so parents, I was there.

623
00:52:15,620 --> 00:52:17,340
This morning, early in parents were dropping off

624
00:52:17,340 --> 00:52:18,980
as early as 7.15, they had to get to work.

625
00:52:19,020 --> 00:52:19,940
Make tuition money, right?

626
00:52:20,220 --> 00:52:22,100
So we let them in when they get there.

627
00:52:22,560 --> 00:52:25,840
And then they're, it's never, I've never seen it,

628
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:28,100
even during COVID when we were checking temperatures,

629
00:52:29,040 --> 00:52:31,700
we didn't have a line to get in to the school.

630
00:52:32,280 --> 00:52:32,760
All right, thank you.

631
00:52:33,180 --> 00:52:36,320
And I assume, excuse me, you're six to 15 minutes

632
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:41,260
of dismissal is when you ring that final bell and our traffic is going out there.

633
00:52:41,500 --> 00:52:45,540
But as you mentioned, there are some parents that get there a little early in one read or queue up.

634
00:52:45,660 --> 00:52:48,480
And so that traffic will last a little bit longer with six to 15 minutes.

635
00:52:48,700 --> 00:52:49,140
Just be clear.

636
00:52:50,260 --> 00:52:53,580
Well, no, the queueing will last longer.

637
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:59,080
And right now, because we've been keenly interested in it lately.

638
00:52:59,420 --> 00:53:03,320
Right now, rarely do we have anybody queueing.

639
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,680
Well, they do eventually queue on the F drugs.

640
00:53:05,940 --> 00:53:07,300
I don't know if I'm answering your question.

641
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:11,740
No, I'm just, I don't want it to look like it's a six to 15 minute issue

642
00:53:11,740 --> 00:53:12,180
in the neighborhood.

643
00:53:12,320 --> 00:53:14,340
It's actually a longer than that because we're going to get there.

644
00:53:14,400 --> 00:53:14,680
I'm sorry.

645
00:53:16,400 --> 00:53:20,060
At 330, it can finish as early as 330 six.

646
00:53:20,060 --> 00:53:23,180
Like it did the other day or go to a 345.

647
00:53:23,720 --> 00:53:28,840
But you're going to allow the queueing to start on campus at three,

648
00:53:28,920 --> 00:53:30,640
a clock when these early birds get there.

649
00:53:30,660 --> 00:53:31,760
I know they're really birds you're talking about.

650
00:53:31,760 --> 00:53:32,680
I was one of them.

651
00:53:32,680 --> 00:53:36,800
You're going to get there early in queue on campus and I got to stand out on yesterdays.

652
00:53:36,860 --> 00:53:37,640
All right, that's right.

653
00:53:37,860 --> 00:53:38,400
Oh, yeah, absolutely.

654
00:53:38,680 --> 00:53:41,800
I mean, we want them on campus.

655
00:53:42,180 --> 00:53:43,760
We feel it's better for all.

656
00:53:43,980 --> 00:53:47,980
So yeah, we might have to go talk to them if they're there at one third or something.

657
00:53:48,260 --> 00:53:51,620
No, we're going to, we want them to come on to campus.

658
00:53:52,940 --> 00:53:54,940
And, you know, just be in the safety of our campus.

659
00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:56,400
Thank you.

660
00:53:56,600 --> 00:53:57,300
Thank you.

661
00:53:57,660 --> 00:53:58,260
Yes, sir.

662
00:53:59,320 --> 00:54:25,680
Mr. Murphy, still, I was two diagrams, so I wanted to ask, there's a queueing term, and then there's a stacking term, and so, you know, if we read the letters on the emails from the neighborhood and obviously the biggest concern is cars out on the street, and it's a question relative to chemistry handling, if it's a collector, it's a question.

663
00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:35,960
But what do you contemplate relative, you know, there are now, I think it's 15 cars off

664
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:36,620
site.

665
00:54:37,320 --> 00:54:42,660
So there's still a queueing stacking out on Yester Oaks.

666
00:54:43,380 --> 00:54:46,040
How long is that?

667
00:54:46,060 --> 00:54:52,360
I mean, how long are those cars because I know I've gone by there many times in the cars

668
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:53,500
sitting there.

669
00:54:53,500 --> 00:54:55,840
And so that's a big issue with the neighborhood.

670
00:54:56,000 --> 00:54:59,980
The cars are parked for a lengthy period time.

671
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:27,320
In a granted, you're going to have much better traffic flow through the site than you do now. You only have one handful of cars on the driveway, but to address the neighbors concerns going forward about still a number of cars perking out on yesterday's. How long is that? Do you contemplate is that?

672
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:33,480
a ten-minute condition is a thirty-minute condition, forty-five minutes, I mean, I'm curious.

673
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:38,500
I really don't really know until you...

674
00:55:38,500 --> 00:55:46,600
It just depends on the human being that's in that car and there's schedule for the day.

675
00:55:48,180 --> 00:55:55,320
We could certainly be more aggressive with our parents to say, please don't start cueing until...

676
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,700
I mean, I don't understand it, but people do get there sometimes early.

677
00:56:00,100 --> 00:56:01,220
I just don't know.

678
00:56:01,420 --> 00:56:06,860
Maybe the traffic study, we commissioned Kimley Horn for a traffic study.

679
00:56:07,300 --> 00:56:11,800
They may have some information about that.

680
00:56:12,200 --> 00:56:12,880
Here we go.

681
00:56:13,440 --> 00:56:14,280
Here we go.

682
00:56:15,220 --> 00:56:22,600
And I guess to follow up, maybe this is a question for Kimley Horn, but you're, again, you're

683
00:56:22,600 --> 00:56:28,160
and stacking out on Yester Oaks is going to be somewhat

684
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,580
predicated on a fish and flow through the site.

685
00:56:32,220 --> 00:56:34,720
You're creating an opportunity to flow through the site,

686
00:56:35,240 --> 00:56:38,560
but at the end of the day, that's going to have to be managed.

687
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:40,360
Yeah, you'll have staff.

688
00:56:41,060 --> 00:56:42,300
Yeah, pushing people through.

689
00:56:42,320 --> 00:56:43,600
Certain kids are coming out.

690
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:44,980
I mean, we all know.

691
00:56:45,420 --> 00:56:48,200
Not to be cheeky, but we're anxious to get rid of the kids.

692
00:56:48,240 --> 00:56:48,460
Yeah.

693
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:49,500
At the end of the day.

694
00:56:49,500 --> 00:56:54,200
The staff is motivated to give the children back to their parents.

695
00:56:54,520 --> 00:56:57,160
Yes, sir. Oh, yeah, we would definitely manage that situation.

696
00:56:57,500 --> 00:57:01,520
And I've worked at other schools, and my staff is already

697
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,980
on what about if we're parked there? Well, for one thing, don't park there.

698
00:57:05,300 --> 00:57:07,220
But if you need to park there, we'll get you out.

699
00:57:07,820 --> 00:57:13,500
Yeah, we're a small school, so we would be able to manage that.

700
00:57:14,240 --> 00:57:15,780
The question about stacking.

701
00:57:17,060 --> 00:57:21,660
Yeah, like Krypton, Kim Lee Hoorne, 999, South Fedy Grove Road.

702
00:57:23,820 --> 00:57:27,800
So your question was just about the time of Q and Q, and how long the car is going to be out there?

703
00:57:28,640 --> 00:57:30,000
I mean what the question is?

704
00:57:30,260 --> 00:57:37,540
So we did go out in the spring, and we were there before this whistle to note the Q and

705
00:57:37,540 --> 00:57:39,460
and along, yesterday, Oaks and Dogwood.

706
00:57:40,300 --> 00:57:47,360
All that information really, even if it started at 130, it's hard to apply it to this,

707
00:57:47,680 --> 00:57:54,960
because now there is so much more space. If the Senate, if 43 cars were to shut right at 130,

708
00:57:55,680 --> 00:58:01,880
they would just sit in the parking lot until 330. Until we drop away.

709
00:58:02,940 --> 00:58:05,460
And then there's a lot of yesterdays.

710
00:58:05,460 --> 00:58:13,560
Yes, sir. Does that make sense? So at this moment it's hard to say how long it would just entirely depend on how many people get there and how early?

711
00:58:17,460 --> 00:58:29,600
So for the 16, 15 cars off-site, which would be mostly per the other diagram accommodated on yesterdays.

712
00:58:30,460 --> 00:58:35,220
It's just, you don't know, I guess sort of fishing four years is the impact on the

713
00:58:35,220 --> 00:58:39,140
neighbor that how long have those carers contemplated this set out there.

714
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:41,900
It would really just a bit of how they would have been there.

715
00:58:41,980 --> 00:58:48,320
How early 43 vehicles got there, because then the other 15 would be the ones that aren't

716
00:58:48,320 --> 00:58:49,780
able to be accommodated on site.

717
00:58:50,180 --> 00:58:59,580
So if all 43 got there at lunch, I mean, if it doesn't take until 315 for the parking lot

718
00:58:59,580 --> 00:59:02,400
be full, then it would be a 15 minutes on yesterday's votes.

719
00:59:03,040 --> 00:59:07,360
But that's the current condition as far as six cars on site, 40 something off.

720
00:59:07,460 --> 00:59:09,440
You're going to completely flip that.

721
00:59:09,580 --> 00:59:13,900
So only in your situation, you only tell them about somewhere on 15 cars being on

722
00:59:13,900 --> 00:59:15,540
yesterday, and instead of 40 something.

723
00:59:15,960 --> 00:59:16,260
Right.

724
00:59:16,420 --> 00:59:17,000
But 40 something.

725
00:59:17,140 --> 00:59:20,340
I think the question is, is it to pass improvement in their plan?

726
00:59:21,780 --> 00:59:22,000
Right.

727
00:59:22,160 --> 00:59:23,560
From just a point of view of call.

728
00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:24,040
Right.

729
00:59:24,220 --> 00:59:29,300
And I think that we could have a bigger impact on human behavior.

730
00:59:30,000 --> 00:59:35,180
We've never asked our parents to back off and wait or anything like that.

731
00:59:35,240 --> 00:59:37,400
People can come and line up when they want.

732
00:59:37,660 --> 00:59:43,680
They generally, these are extremes, you know, I was one-third of you as an extreme, right?

733
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:51,720
It's more like three o'clock when they start queuing up and we could get more aggressive

734
00:59:51,720 --> 00:59:58,020
with our please stop coming to early, don't start queuing until they could all manage that, right?

735
00:59:58,020 --> 00:59:59,860
Oh, but it's a...

736
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:05,340
So that's something that we commit to doing to help everybody out.

737
01:00:06,000 --> 01:00:07,520
And that's just human behavior.

738
01:00:09,160 --> 01:00:11,460
All right. Thank you. Yes, sir, Alderman, some of Agia?

739
01:00:12,020 --> 01:00:12,580
Thank you, Chairman.

740
01:00:14,100 --> 01:00:18,860
So I've had an office on pop or pipe, a Germantown hospital since 2003.

741
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:25,980
And my staff knows, do not schedule need to have to leave that office between about 130 and 3 o'clock.

742
01:00:25,980 --> 01:00:37,200
it is a total nightmare on a daily basis, it's mayhem at best on a good day and got from

743
01:00:37,200 --> 01:00:40,980
that it's raining or there's a fender better or anything like that.

744
01:00:42,100 --> 01:00:50,980
I know that's a much higher attendance, larger school, wider road and we also have

745
01:00:51,840 --> 01:00:55,500
Well, sure, I haven't show a county in Georgetown over there trying to do a traffic.

746
01:00:56,040 --> 01:01:01,120
Now, I will say, one school that's out, it's a ghost town at 15 minutes.

747
01:01:01,580 --> 01:01:09,820
It's amazing how they can do that traffic, but, you know, when, when every letter that we will

748
01:01:09,820 --> 01:01:18,920
see definitely has a concern about the queuing, the existing conditions, the sight lines coming

749
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:29,400
out of windy oaks and cars on dogwood. When I see 35 to 15, all the models show queuing

750
01:01:29,400 --> 01:01:37,180
only on windy oaks, I think this is a really good opportunity and I would hope to hear a

751
01:01:37,180 --> 01:01:47,020
real firm commitment from your team that if this does pass, a big retraining process for

752
01:01:47,020 --> 01:01:56,180
parents is critical as a full sit down, explaining to them what you guys are committed to

753
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:57,560
do.

754
01:01:57,780 --> 01:02:04,620
We commit that that's been made to the neighborhood and you know it's a brand new, beautiful

755
01:02:04,620 --> 01:02:07,760
$10 million project or double in the size of the campus.

756
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,320
There's a lot going on with this.

757
01:02:11,160 --> 01:02:15,460
It's usually easier to retrain people when they've got something they're in Shiny to look

758
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:33,280
And really put the hammer down, if they're queuing up at one o'clock, well, they're going to be on your campus at that point, but if everybody's queuing up at one o'clock 30, 40 now into the streets, it's just, I think it's an education.

759
01:02:33,700 --> 01:02:45,440
You guys are educators. I think it's something needs to be discussed with your parents to make sure that they really understand what's been presented to us, what the neighbors or expectations.

760
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:52,140
and not what it's down, so I just want to make sure that's on record that it's a big

761
01:02:52,140 --> 01:02:56,700
event, and hope that you guys can be willing to do that.

762
01:02:56,960 --> 01:03:07,340
Yeah, I agree, I mean, our dismissal process is nowhere near Mayhem. We currently have 94 students.

763
01:03:08,220 --> 01:03:12,320
I don't know how many Germantown has. We have no drivers, they're all parents.

764
01:03:13,800 --> 01:03:23,240
And yes, I will commit to working more with our parents about the time that they queue in the live.

765
01:03:23,720 --> 01:03:24,560
Thank you.

766
01:03:25,160 --> 01:03:27,960
I have only one question for you.

767
01:03:28,200 --> 01:03:31,280
Contrary to your prognosis, I hope you live forever.

768
01:03:33,660 --> 01:03:39,760
But there is always a chance for whatever case may be to change the headmaster.

769
01:03:40,420 --> 01:03:44,980
So, a lot of things were about the number of students, and one of the things I thought about

770
01:03:44,980 --> 01:03:48,720
this week was, and I plan on doing this, regardless of the outcome, positive, and negative,

771
01:03:48,800 --> 01:03:54,280
prior to that, I'm going to ask the commission, I'm going to make a motion underneath

772
01:03:54,280 --> 01:03:57,120
this special use permit to cap us at 140.

773
01:03:58,260 --> 01:04:03,660
That way, it's a matter of record, because the intensification, you know, concerned that anybody

774
01:04:03,660 --> 01:04:08,420
has with anything is that when they live here, and you build a 10,000 foot shopping center

775
01:04:08,420 --> 01:04:12,480
behind and when somebody said they'll never be anything back there, then the 10,000 turns

776
01:04:12,480 --> 01:04:17,360
to 20,000, 20,000 turns to 30, then they start going vertical and all these things keep

777
01:04:17,360 --> 01:04:20,860
happening over five, 10-year decades, whatever the case may be.

778
01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:29,540
So I will, I am planning on making a motion to cap the students at 140 as a part of this as

779
01:04:29,540 --> 01:04:30,980
a condition of the approval.

780
01:04:31,820 --> 01:04:36,860
And I'm assuming being the question that you're okay with that based on your infatic,

781
01:04:36,860 --> 01:04:39,400
No, when asked by Commissioner Jacob, it's about 140.

782
01:04:40,340 --> 01:04:40,680
Absolutely.

783
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:52,960
We did our own study about what is a number that we can handle with our staff, without having to increase staff and other concerns like that.

784
01:04:52,960 --> 01:04:54,220
Educational concerns, right?

785
01:04:54,820 --> 01:04:56,740
And that's where we arrived at 140.

786
01:04:57,140 --> 01:04:58,940
No, I fully support that.

787
01:04:58,940 --> 01:04:59,600
we

788
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:06,620
We have no intention of expanding to 140 on that on our current site.

789
01:05:07,060 --> 01:05:13,840
Because in 1996 when some things were approved, nobody thought you'd be here in 2026 with this.

790
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:20,240
So we got to look at 10 and our responsibility to these citizens here as well as everywhere. Again, has none of the way that's going to be up or down vote.

791
01:05:20,300 --> 01:05:23,560
I'd be playing on making that motion and hopefully it gets your support for that.

792
01:05:24,460 --> 01:05:26,440
Any other questions for the applicant?

793
01:05:28,060 --> 01:05:32,780
All right. Well, this time, thank you, sir. At this time, we're going to stop our regular meeting.

794
01:05:32,820 --> 01:05:37,980
We're going to go to the public hearing portion of the case. You know, again, I remind you,

795
01:05:38,000 --> 01:05:44,300
I know this is a touchy subject for the neighbors, and I know that everybody wants to speak.

796
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:47,900
We're going to do three minutes per person with a 15-minute cap. I'll try to be as

797
01:05:47,900 --> 01:05:51,600
diligence as I can. I'm going to be strong on the three minutes of Vice Chair Bacon.

798
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:55,920
It's going to keep the time. At 245, we'll give you a heads up. If we can be respectful each

799
01:05:55,920 --> 01:06:00,000
of the three minutes and then if we have one or two additional people need to go we'll

800
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:03,580
deal with that at that time. So we're going to do the people who are for the application

801
01:06:03,580 --> 01:06:08,320
first in no particular order, whoever would like to go, you're a more than welcome to.

802
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:14,060
We have the cards we'll call them out and if there's anyone else that would like to speak

803
01:06:14,060 --> 01:06:18,520
that hasn't given us the card yet please do. There's a clipboard here that you can fill it

804
01:06:18,520 --> 01:06:21,900
out so first we're going to do those four Thomas Crump.

805
01:06:26,390 --> 01:06:27,950
And if each one of you give us your name

806
01:06:27,950 --> 01:06:31,630
and address for the record, as clear as possible.

807
01:06:31,930 --> 01:06:35,330
So the video and the audio device can pick that up,

808
01:06:35,330 --> 01:06:36,090
that would be great.

809
01:06:36,950 --> 01:06:38,750
I think we need to drop back to the traffic engineer.

810
01:06:38,930 --> 01:06:41,290
I missed his name and address, if we get that for you.

811
01:06:41,530 --> 01:06:42,830
If we leave, get that to staff.

812
01:06:43,430 --> 01:06:44,930
I'll quick on the draw on that one.

813
01:06:44,970 --> 01:06:45,610
I missed the name.

814
01:06:47,270 --> 01:06:49,590
I'm Thomas Dick Grump doing here.

815
01:06:49,730 --> 01:06:51,790
My address is 3744.

816
01:06:51,790 --> 01:07:00,090
of Kettle Crow, Memphis, my great granddaughter has been a beneficiary of both

817
01:07:00,090 --> 01:07:07,010
I for the last, this is her second school year, and as her great granddad, we moved to

818
01:07:07,010 --> 01:07:14,530
Memphis seven years ago to help my granddaughter who at that time selected out of a national

819
01:07:14,530 --> 01:07:21,510
search by Mayor Farmerman Strickland to be his chief of HR and Chief of

820
01:07:21,510 --> 01:07:27,870
I had to bring back Ron and all that, but her daughter, her baby daughter, Sabrina Smith, my

821
01:07:27,870 --> 01:07:36,110
great granddaughter, has this dexilexia, and was really struggling, and Boda and has been

822
01:07:36,110 --> 01:07:36,730
a blessing.

823
01:07:37,190 --> 01:07:42,910
It's been almost a miracle from where she came from when she started their last year versus

824
01:07:42,910 --> 01:07:50,350
now, and I've been very involved with this because I picked her up in the summer program

825
01:07:50,350 --> 01:07:56,870
every day. Last year and this year and I can tell you some of the things you're

826
01:07:56,870 --> 01:08:02,750
talking about along the cars, Q and all that. I've got Mazda early as 1130. I've

827
01:08:02,750 --> 01:08:09,990
got Mazda early as 1115. And on well in Yesteros, I mean on the dogwood and then

828
01:08:10,390 --> 01:08:17,970
to Yesteros. And once they ring the bell and the students start coming out, it is a

829
01:08:17,970 --> 01:08:20,330
very efficient and quick process.

830
01:08:20,890 --> 01:08:22,270
And let me say this.

831
01:08:22,650 --> 01:08:25,090
I'm a former city councilman for 12 years.

832
01:08:25,910 --> 01:08:28,510
I'm a former member as a council member,

833
01:08:28,530 --> 01:08:32,290
council appointing to the plan and the development commission.

834
01:08:32,990 --> 01:08:35,030
I've been a chairman of board of hospital,

835
01:08:35,630 --> 01:08:37,990
I've been, I've been taken to college in Indiana.

836
01:08:38,870 --> 01:08:43,250
Very strong background in public service and community service.

837
01:08:43,470 --> 01:08:47,450
I feel very strongly about the need of health care

838
01:08:47,450 --> 01:08:53,510
and what happens with young people, and both I, and is really providing something that is needed

839
01:08:53,510 --> 01:08:56,110
for those people who have that problem.

840
01:08:56,830 --> 01:08:58,310
It's been phenomenal.

841
01:08:58,950 --> 01:09:08,490
And if you would know my great-grandfather, seen her last year and see her not, you would know that

842
01:09:08,490 --> 01:09:09,450
what they're proposing.

843
01:09:09,450 --> 01:09:18,590
And any time the principal of Master of Bodhisattva in tell you, sir, that he is totally supportive

844
01:09:19,450 --> 01:09:28,310
of you making an amendment or providing an addition to this legislation to cap that program

845
01:09:28,310 --> 01:09:29,530
going forward at 140.

846
01:09:29,970 --> 01:09:32,690
I don't know anything, it could be more harmful than that.

847
01:09:33,310 --> 01:09:35,110
The other questions that have been...

848
01:09:35,110 --> 01:09:36,030
In seconds, sir.

849
01:09:36,030 --> 01:09:40,430
Okay. I've made my point. Thank you very much.

850
01:09:40,730 --> 01:09:41,750
Thank you Mr. Proud.

851
01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:44,340
Hi.

852
01:09:44,980 --> 01:09:45,480
Who's next?

853
01:09:45,880 --> 01:09:46,920
Dr. Mary McDonald.

854
01:09:56,770 --> 01:09:57,050
Good evening.

855
01:09:57,750 --> 01:09:59,530
My name is Dr. Mary McDonald.

856
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:08,720
21, 75, wick or shame-line, Germantown, Tennessee. I am here to speak on behalf of Bowdoin School's New

857
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:14,260
Building Project. I speak both as a resident who has proudly called

858
01:10:14,260 --> 01:10:22,360
Germantown home for the past 44 years, and as a educator with more than 50 years experience,

859
01:10:22,360 --> 01:10:28,120
as a teacher, a principal, a superintendent, and an education consultant.

860
01:10:29,740 --> 01:10:36,680
I, excuse me, I know firsthand what makes a community thrive, and what makes a school

861
01:10:36,680 --> 01:10:44,260
truly exceptional. In my 50 years in education, I have learned that one size does not fear all.

862
01:10:44,500 --> 01:10:49,700
Bowdown's mission is to teach children with dyslexia to read and succeed.

863
01:10:49,700 --> 01:10:53,900
This lecture is not a reflection of intelligence.

864
01:10:54,900 --> 01:10:59,000
It is a fundamental difference in how the brain process is language.

865
01:11:00,200 --> 01:11:03,640
General classroom settings, despite their best efforts,

866
01:11:04,100 --> 01:11:10,660
are not always equipped to provide the intensive, specialised instruction these children need.

867
01:11:11,720 --> 01:11:17,440
Bowdoin offers a tailored evidence-based approach that turns struggle into strategy.

868
01:11:17,440 --> 01:11:27,200
I have watched children enter its stores, frustrated, and defeated, and emerged as confident, capable, scholars.

869
01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:35,300
Bowdoin does more than teach students how to read if we stores their self-worth and unlocks their potential.

870
01:11:36,340 --> 01:11:46,480
This is not an untested experiment. For 54 years, Bowdoin has angered specialized learning right here in Germantown.

871
01:11:46,480 --> 01:11:51,180
It's five plus decade track record speaks for itself.

872
01:11:52,340 --> 01:11:58,220
Dermant to Hanna has rightly been celebrated for the outstanding reputation of all

873
01:11:58,220 --> 01:12:01,140
his schools, both public and private.

874
01:12:01,740 --> 01:12:08,100
Bode Island is an essential threat to that rich tapestry of educational excellence, filling

875
01:12:08,100 --> 01:12:10,860
a vital niche that is made by these students.

876
01:12:12,000 --> 01:12:27,300
Bowdoin is also a good educational neighbor. Each year the school offers seminars for people in public, for teachers in public and private schools, sharing its expertise and practical methods for teaching children with dyslexia.

877
01:12:28,580 --> 01:12:38,980
That outreach extends Bowdoin's impact beyond its own classrooms, helping more children across Georgetown and Shelby County, learn to read and succeed.

878
01:12:38,980 --> 01:12:46,660
To continue this vital work, BODY needs a facility that matches the quality of its instruction.

879
01:12:47,000 --> 01:12:48,060
15 seconds, man.

880
01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:56,540
This new building project is an investment in our city of Germantown's reputation for civic and educational excellence.

881
01:12:57,380 --> 01:13:06,020
As a 44-year resume resident of Germantown and a lifelong educator, I ask for your support for BODY's building project.

882
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:06,860
Thank you.

883
01:13:06,860 --> 01:13:07,800
Thank you, Dr. McDonald.

884
01:13:09,300 --> 01:13:12,660
How many do we have on the fore side, how many cards do we have?

885
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:14,920
We have eight.

886
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:15,820
Okay.

887
01:13:15,820 --> 01:13:19,060
And then we also have four that are on that didn't check.

888
01:13:19,580 --> 01:13:22,540
So I don't know if they're four against and then we have a stack of against.

889
01:13:23,100 --> 01:13:24,100
Ashley Jamison.

890
01:13:32,260 --> 01:13:32,760
Mr. Chairman.

891
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:34,380
Yes.

892
01:13:34,940 --> 01:13:37,360
Josh White has assistant city attorney as your parliamentarian.

893
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:41,940
I may suggest you do something because if I understand that the rules correctly,

894
01:13:41,940 --> 01:13:47,140
We're going to give three minutes per card for a maximum of 15 minutes.

895
01:13:47,140 --> 01:13:47,700
It's correct.

896
01:13:48,540 --> 01:13:53,720
If that's what we're going to hold to, you may want to ask the speakers if they because

897
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:55,680
Ms. Gorleski is just going in order.

898
01:13:56,180 --> 01:13:59,480
So you may want to ask when you call the people up if they want to pass.

899
01:14:00,300 --> 01:14:05,620
And then we don't exhaust 15 minutes, then we can come back to those people who chose to pass.

900
01:14:06,100 --> 01:14:06,660
One suggestion.

901
01:14:06,960 --> 01:14:07,440
Yes, sir.

902
01:14:07,440 --> 01:14:13,120
And you know as that's I asked how many there were eight so five times 15s three that means there's three extra. I mean

903
01:14:13,560 --> 01:14:18,540
You know I'm inclined that we have three extra people. They took time out of their data come up here

904
01:14:19,060 --> 01:14:25,120
We're volunteers as well. We're here. We're here to volunteer to do this. So I'm I'm a if it was 15 additional people

905
01:14:25,120 --> 01:14:28,920
We won't think but I think for three additional people. We we've given their time

906
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:36,800
That's great but under our rules. We give each side equal times. Yes, I remember how much extra time. Yes, okay. Thank you for that

907
01:14:37,440 --> 01:14:37,680
for the first time.

908
01:14:37,680 --> 01:14:38,820
Yes, ma'am.

909
01:14:38,940 --> 01:14:39,780
It was ash agencies.

910
01:14:40,380 --> 01:14:43,280
I live at 24-02 yesterday.

911
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:47,380
My name is Ashlee,

912
01:14:47,620 --> 01:14:51,260
and I live just three doors down from Bodine School.

913
01:14:51,860 --> 01:14:53,620
I'm standing here tonight wearing two hats.

914
01:14:53,720 --> 01:14:56,240
First is an immediate neighbor and second is the mother,

915
01:14:56,680 --> 01:14:58,360
Caroline, a Bow 9-3rd grader.

916
01:14:58,360 --> 01:14:59,960
For decades, Vodine has been more than...

917
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:05,760
In school in our street, it's where our children learn to run, ride bikes, play ball and experience what real community means.

918
01:15:06,020 --> 01:15:11,440
But I'm bringing the sound of laughing children by day and open this playground to neighborhood kids every evening and weekend.

919
01:15:11,820 --> 01:15:18,480
They are truly one of the best parts of living on our street. We had no idea that a decade after moving in, we would end up a bow-dine family.

920
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:29,140
If you've ever watched your child's struggle to read, it's hard to describe the heartbreak. Before bow-dine, I watched my daughter sit a to-desk every day, feeling invisible, defeated and completely overwhelmed.

921
01:15:30,000 --> 01:15:33,000
When a child with dyslexia is in a traditional classroom,

922
01:15:33,020 --> 01:15:35,160
they don't just fall behind, they lose their spirit.

923
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:38,040
I watch my little first graders slowly start to believe

924
01:15:38,040 --> 01:15:40,460
the cruelest lie a child can tell themselves

925
01:15:40,460 --> 01:15:42,800
that she just wasn't smart enough.

926
01:15:43,360 --> 01:15:45,220
Boda gave Caroline her light back.

927
01:15:45,480 --> 01:15:46,860
They didn't just teach her how to read,

928
01:15:46,940 --> 01:15:48,660
they restored her dignity, her confidence,

929
01:15:48,820 --> 01:15:49,920
and her self-worth.

930
01:15:50,280 --> 01:15:51,980
Boda and is the only place in the midst of South

931
01:15:51,980 --> 01:15:53,340
that can work this kind of miracle

932
01:15:53,340 --> 01:15:55,660
and God knew what he was doing when he moved

933
01:15:55,660 --> 01:15:56,680
just to yes drugs.

934
01:15:57,580 --> 01:15:59,140
Boda and his asking for approval tonight

935
01:15:59,140 --> 01:16:01,480
to add a few more classroom to its campus.

936
01:16:01,960 --> 01:16:04,260
They are not attempting a massive commercial transformation,

937
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:05,760
but rather updating their facilities

938
01:16:05,760 --> 01:16:07,860
to open its doors to 40 more children

939
01:16:07,860 --> 01:16:09,780
who process the world a little differently.

940
01:16:10,360 --> 01:16:13,320
That is 40 more carolines and 40 more parents sitting

941
01:16:13,320 --> 01:16:16,420
at home tonight, praying for a lifeline for their child.

942
01:16:17,380 --> 01:16:19,080
I know some neighbors have valid questions

943
01:16:19,080 --> 01:16:20,280
about traffic and drainage,

944
01:16:20,440 --> 01:16:22,760
but Bowdoin is solving these issues on their own dime.

945
01:16:23,120 --> 01:16:25,680
The new 43 card driveway is engineered

946
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:27,620
to pull carpools queuing,

947
01:16:27,620 --> 01:16:32,180
I'd like to state that I've talked to five of the neighbors that live from Bodine to Dogwood.

948
01:16:32,840 --> 01:16:41,400
I think there's seven of us total that have said this is going to be wonderful for that side of Dogwood that deals with the actual carpool.

949
01:16:42,700 --> 01:16:45,520
We on Yester Oaks have to ask ourselves about the alternative.

950
01:16:46,280 --> 01:16:53,840
If Bodine is ever forced to relocate, do we really want to develop or packing this beautiful land with high density zero lot line homes?

951
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:58,040
losing Bodine's presence would be a tremendous loss to our neighborhood's character.

952
01:16:58,700 --> 01:17:02,740
At the end of the day, this isn't just about sight plans or traffic studies, it's about children.

953
01:17:03,380 --> 01:17:07,720
As someone who has watched that carpool line right outside my window for 12 years,

954
01:17:08,120 --> 01:17:11,780
I know it takes about 15, 20 minutes of extra patience a day,

955
01:17:12,300 --> 01:17:16,860
but giving a child their confidence back, giving a child their future back, that lasts forever.

956
01:17:17,640 --> 01:17:23,020
Let's show our community's best self by choosing grace and support for a school that brings so much good to the world.

957
01:17:23,020 --> 01:17:29,240
As Bowdine's neighbor and from the absolute bottom of a mother's grateful heart, I ask that you approve this plan.

958
01:17:29,620 --> 01:17:30,760
Your 15 seconds, yeah.

959
01:17:30,920 --> 01:17:32,740
Thank you, Bowdine, for saving my daughter.

960
01:17:33,000 --> 01:17:39,760
Yes, your oaks is your home, and there is no greater privilege as your neighbor than watching the miracles you work every day in our own backyard.

961
01:17:40,940 --> 01:17:41,840
Thank you very much.

962
01:17:45,740 --> 01:17:46,580
Ann Bronson?

963
01:17:54,990 --> 01:17:56,930
My name is Ann Bronson.

964
01:17:56,930 --> 01:18:00,770
I live at 2 to 4 of Lynn Alden.

965
01:18:01,190 --> 01:18:05,770
My husband, Don, and our Cody-Scran parents.

966
01:18:06,550 --> 01:18:12,350
Cody lives in Colorado, and it tends bowed on when Cody was in nursery school,

967
01:18:12,790 --> 01:18:16,530
his teacher taught us that in her 35 years of teaching,

968
01:18:17,190 --> 01:18:20,850
Cody was one of the smartest children she's ever taught.

969
01:18:20,850 --> 01:18:45,270
So when he started writing his name, CO-D-Y, and then the next time CO-B-Y, we thought maybe he was just being lazy, but reading was a challenge, and because Cody has a twin brother, it became even more obvious that something wasn't right.

970
01:18:45,270 --> 01:18:52,750
Cody was tested and found to be severely dyslexic at the time we knew very little about what

971
01:18:52,750 --> 01:18:54,250
that really meant.

972
01:18:54,370 --> 01:19:01,030
His parents found tutors that trained in the Orton-Gillingham method that bowed on uses,

973
01:19:01,410 --> 01:19:08,290
but tutoring once or twice a week was not getting it done.

974
01:19:09,730 --> 01:19:14,270
He began having problems at school when other children call you dumb.

975
01:19:14,270 --> 01:19:17,170
It does nothing for yourself as sting.

976
01:19:18,110 --> 01:19:22,550
After I installed it, I exhausted search for ways to help him.

977
01:19:22,550 --> 01:19:24,410
My daughter discovered Bowdoin.

978
01:19:24,990 --> 01:19:28,250
Amazingly, it was only a mile from our house.

979
01:19:29,110 --> 01:19:32,110
Cody's dad was not on board at first,

980
01:19:32,170 --> 01:19:34,830
but the more he learned about dyslexia,

981
01:19:35,650 --> 01:19:38,630
the more he realized he probably had it himself.

982
01:19:39,130 --> 01:19:43,930
He had hated school because it had always been a struggle.

983
01:19:44,270 --> 01:19:49,250
So he still amazed that Cody wants to go to school early every morning.

984
01:19:50,210 --> 01:19:52,890
He says, who goes to school early?

985
01:19:53,650 --> 01:19:55,870
We originally signed up for one year.

986
01:19:56,050 --> 01:19:57,370
We're now in our third.

987
01:19:57,630 --> 01:19:59,970
Cody's self-confidence has...

988
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:29,980
It's ground tremendously, and he's not the same child he was three years ago. He looks forward to school, even the homework. The students at Bowdoin are proud of their school. Recently, Cody was flying back to Colorado, wearing a bowdoin shirt. And he said he wanted the world to know about Bowdoin. That says everything to me. It makes me sad to think about all the children who need what Bowdoin has to

989
01:20:29,980 --> 01:20:36,120
given Cody, but who are turned away simply because there's not enough room.

990
01:20:36,900 --> 01:20:42,220
For Cody Vodon doesn't just change how he learns, change how he sees himself.

991
01:20:42,860 --> 01:20:49,340
Please approve this building extension so that more children can have that same opportunity.

992
01:20:50,180 --> 01:20:50,440
Thank you.

993
01:20:50,460 --> 01:20:51,440
Thank you, ma'am.

994
01:20:55,690 --> 01:20:56,590
Thank you, Warren.

995
01:20:58,490 --> 01:20:59,810
Mr. Yeulhorn.

996
01:21:06,480 --> 01:21:06,640
Mr.

997
01:21:10,770 --> 01:21:11,090
Yeulhorn.

998
01:21:11,090 --> 01:21:18,470
I live at 85, $59 good road and I'm also the chairman of the Board of Sunning Appeals

999
01:21:18,470 --> 01:21:23,110
and I'm like the record to state that should this for any reason come before the BCAA.

1000
01:21:23,190 --> 01:21:28,030
I'll be refusing myself and Jim, Jim, some of the BCAA as well.

1001
01:21:28,990 --> 01:21:30,970
May myself a few notes.

1002
01:21:32,650 --> 01:21:39,630
My wife and I have the longest adjacent property line with Motown property because our property

1003
01:21:39,630 --> 01:21:47,170
was the Brow.Bodans until they built the school and parceled that off for the school.

1004
01:21:50,410 --> 01:21:52,690
And let's see what else, my little bullet points here.

1005
01:21:53,570 --> 01:22:01,670
They've always been a terrific neighbor and have been very considerate of us and others.

1006
01:22:02,490 --> 01:22:08,570
The largest question, regardless, is primarily traffic,

1007
01:22:11,110 --> 01:22:12,490
and they're going from a queueing

1008
01:22:13,690 --> 01:22:21,150
I thought it was five, but it's going to go to something in the 40s, and so it's a reversal

1009
01:22:21,150 --> 01:22:25,310
from what it used to be, what's better than that.

1010
01:22:26,030 --> 01:22:31,650
I mean, that shows that they're good neighbor, right there, and I don't know of any

1011
01:22:31,650 --> 01:22:38,950
schools, long dogwood, you've got St. George's, got Boda, and you've got Dogwood Elementary.

1012
01:22:39,910 --> 01:22:46,270
I think it goes on out to Houston, Nill, and Department to Nell Elementary. I mean, they

1013
01:22:46,270 --> 01:22:51,250
all queueed up on the streets and didn't seem to be in the world and those are all residential

1014
01:22:51,250 --> 01:22:57,980
neighborhoods. So what's the rub? Unless it's just somebody's got to be in debt, I don't

1015
01:23:01,700 --> 01:23:04,400
Let's see if I can read my writing here.

1016
01:23:06,870 --> 01:23:09,890
One thing we've been in our house for about 30 years,

1017
01:23:12,010 --> 01:23:16,210
and one of the greatest joys in my life, in my life,

1018
01:23:17,630 --> 01:23:20,990
is hearing the playground squeals in the laughter

1019
01:23:20,990 --> 01:23:23,610
of those kids midday.

1020
01:23:24,130 --> 01:23:27,670
And I mean, it's akin to how much you enjoy here in the birds,

1021
01:23:27,850 --> 01:23:29,730
and it's your house in the morning and afternoon.

1022
01:23:30,490 --> 01:23:39,730
The one regret I have is that that where they're put in the building could preclude me being able to hear all that.

1023
01:23:40,930 --> 01:23:44,270
That's probably, they're doing a great job, but they wouldn't be expanding.

1024
01:23:45,510 --> 01:23:50,150
So I hope that you will approve this request.

1025
01:23:50,970 --> 01:23:51,270
Thank you.

1026
01:23:51,430 --> 01:23:53,450
Thank you, Mr. Yon, and

1027
01:23:56,170 --> 01:23:59,470
thank you for your service on many occasions in Germantown.

1028
01:24:05,190 --> 01:24:06,790
Dr. Renee Lee.

1029
01:24:20,960 --> 01:24:22,460
Hi, my name is Renee Freemes Lee.

1030
01:24:22,700 --> 01:24:25,680
I live at 54 and 97, sick and more grow than Memphis.

1031
01:24:26,300 --> 01:24:31,200
I was head of Bowdoin School from 1990 to 2012.

1032
01:24:32,180 --> 01:24:35,120
So I have some historical perspective.

1033
01:24:36,820 --> 01:24:40,460
I think many people don't remember or don't know.

1034
01:24:40,780 --> 01:24:42,540
The school started out as a high school.

1035
01:24:42,540 --> 01:24:51,680
So we had drivers, rather than parents, picking kids out, that was certainly probably a struggle for the neighborhood.

1036
01:24:52,600 --> 01:24:59,980
But once we defined our mission, once we recognized that the earlier we intervened with children who had returned.

1037
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:07,740
meeting problems. The better off everyone is, that's when the queueing problem started. And we've tried to address

1038
01:25:07,740 --> 01:25:17,780
that queueing problems in many ways, have tried to be a good neighbor. And for the most part, we have, I think, succeeded in that.

1039
01:25:18,060 --> 01:25:26,000
I can talk about the queueing as a grandparent, also since I now pick up my grandchild from time to time.

1040
01:25:26,000 --> 01:25:30,380
And honestly, 15 minutes the queue is gone.

1041
01:25:30,660 --> 01:25:32,600
It does not take much time.

1042
01:25:33,560 --> 01:25:37,080
I also want to just say that Germantown has a real jewel

1043
01:25:37,080 --> 01:25:38,380
in the Bowdying School.

1044
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:42,600
And we are so grateful to the Bowdying School

1045
01:25:43,380 --> 01:25:46,640
for having the property to put the school on

1046
01:25:46,640 --> 01:25:48,340
and to be a part of Germantown.

1047
01:25:48,540 --> 01:25:50,980
We have worked cooperatively with Germantown

1048
01:25:50,980 --> 01:25:54,920
and with our neighbors, and we will continue to do so.

1049
01:25:54,920 --> 01:26:02,880
Bowdine was the first and only school in the state of Tennessee for dyslexic students.

1050
01:26:03,580 --> 01:26:08,680
And that's an important ground in our and German town.

1051
01:26:09,620 --> 01:26:18,820
So please approve this and as again, as a personal note, my granddaughter and first grade as she began to struggle.

1052
01:26:19,780 --> 01:26:24,960
I called John Murphy, and I said, I need a spot, and he said, I don't have one.

1053
01:26:26,000 --> 01:26:29,540
I was a former head of school, and I couldn't get in.

1054
01:26:29,860 --> 01:26:32,340
We need those extra classrooms.

1055
01:26:32,980 --> 01:26:34,680
We need to provide this.

1056
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:40,360
She is now a third grader, and doing well, and I am very grateful.

1057
01:26:41,080 --> 01:26:48,080
Surprised that I'm back at Bowtime after all these years, but Bowtime is an absolute essential service for this community.

1058
01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:49,640
Thank you.

1059
01:26:53,380 --> 01:26:54,440
Thank you, Dr. Andy.

1060
01:26:54,600 --> 01:26:55,640
Sandra Sanders.

1061
01:26:59,670 --> 01:27:02,930
Sandra Sanders. My address is 28 of six Hunter's Forest

1062
01:27:03,630 --> 01:27:04,870
Stride, German town.

1063
01:27:05,090 --> 01:27:11,090
We've been here 10 years, and what I will tell you is,

1064
01:27:11,090 --> 01:27:14,710
I got the knock on the door, then nobody ever wants to have.

1065
01:27:15,330 --> 01:27:18,750
It was a pleased department holding the five-year-old

1066
01:27:18,750 --> 01:27:20,170
who ran away from home.

1067
01:27:20,570 --> 01:27:21,770
She didn't want to go to school.

1068
01:27:24,200 --> 01:27:27,640
That's what dyslexia is. It destroys children.

1069
01:27:29,780 --> 01:27:34,500
And it doesn't matter the school, it can be public, it can be private, it can be any of them.

1070
01:27:34,680 --> 01:27:39,440
But when you're five-year-old, can't go back to school, because they feel like a failure.

1071
01:27:41,240 --> 01:27:46,740
We have to do something. And there's 40 kids out there, wait, we can get in.

1072
01:27:46,740 --> 01:27:55,320
In the humble beings' internal way, four kids, who's alive for being destroyed because it is

1073
01:27:55,320 --> 01:28:02,040
not their fault and their parents don't know it, and their educators don't know it because

1074
01:28:02,040 --> 01:28:07,180
it is not widespread across the community yet, and Bowdoin is working on hard to make

1075
01:28:07,180 --> 01:28:08,860
that happen across this community.

1076
01:28:10,420 --> 01:28:16,160
So, I want you to think about, I have two children there, both dyslexic, I've spent five

1077
01:28:16,160 --> 01:28:22,320
years in that carpool line. And I can tell you, with the utmost respect, every parent is not

1078
01:28:22,320 --> 01:28:27,560
blocking a driveway. No parent is running into the parked car of the neighbor that has

1079
01:28:27,560 --> 01:28:34,220
a sitter there to help out. The families are very respectful to that neighborhood, because

1080
01:28:34,220 --> 01:28:41,460
we know what it's like to not have that. And I ask for you to think about, yes, it could

1081
01:28:41,460 --> 01:28:45,220
and it seems for a handful of families, and I'm sorry for that.

1082
01:28:45,820 --> 01:28:50,880
But when we have kids coming out of a school, like this, my child could look you with

1083
01:28:50,880 --> 01:28:52,260
eye, until it's a great.

1084
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:57,980
She went from the kid on the playground, shaking hands with every kid to the kid on the

1085
01:28:57,980 --> 01:29:00,220
playground, who wouldn't even climb the slide.

1086
01:29:01,980 --> 01:29:03,240
But I changed her life.

1087
01:29:04,200 --> 01:29:08,800
She's now in ninth grade, she's a 4.0 on her student at Saint George's.

1088
01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:14,800
She is thriving and doing well because of what they did for her.

1089
01:29:15,920 --> 01:29:17,500
My son is in sixth grade.

1090
01:29:18,060 --> 01:29:19,960
He spent his time with her nine as well.

1091
01:29:20,340 --> 01:29:24,620
And I had that same call in second grade when I was told there was not a spot for him.

1092
01:29:25,420 --> 01:29:26,840
So in third grade we got there.

1093
01:29:27,040 --> 01:29:27,820
Fourth grade we got there.

1094
01:29:28,000 --> 01:29:29,540
Now he is at Saint George as well.

1095
01:29:29,820 --> 01:29:30,960
Sixth grade he is thriving.

1096
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:33,040
He's got a full point of as well.

1097
01:29:33,760 --> 01:29:38,380
So I will ask you to think about what our opportunity is here.

1098
01:29:38,380 --> 01:29:43,080
Okay, if you want to look at prisons and kids that can't read, what percentage of them are just

1099
01:29:43,080 --> 01:29:49,160
toxic, and I don't know that set up off the top of the head I used to, so you're 15 seconds.

1100
01:29:49,500 --> 01:29:49,860
Say again?

1101
01:29:50,000 --> 01:29:50,800
You have 15 seconds.

1102
01:29:50,960 --> 01:29:51,500
15 seconds.

1103
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:56,180
So I want you to think about, do we want to help build this community that needs it so desperately

1104
01:29:56,180 --> 01:29:59,280
to keep our kids out of prison because they can't read?

1105
01:29:59,280 --> 01:29:59,960
And because there

1106
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:07,480
Our failing in school, or give 40 more kids an opportunity to be a Steve Jobs, an Albert Einstein, or any other

1107
01:30:07,480 --> 01:30:10,600
successful CEO, which there's lots of them that have dyslexia.

1108
01:30:11,080 --> 01:30:16,320
So I ask that you support this bill and forgive us for the neighborhoods, because I think

1109
01:30:16,320 --> 01:30:18,720
they'd see the big vision if we could share it with them.

1110
01:30:18,940 --> 01:30:19,300
Thank you, ma'am.

1111
01:30:19,620 --> 01:30:20,560
Thank you.

1112
01:30:24,770 --> 01:30:30,470
So Chairman, we have four that they didn't check either support or opposition, and then we have

1113
01:30:30,470 --> 01:30:30,850
opposition.

1114
01:30:30,850 --> 01:30:31,690
And so, how is it?

1115
01:30:31,690 --> 01:30:32,190
What's the situation?

1116
01:30:32,430 --> 01:30:32,990
Is anybody left?

1117
01:30:33,110 --> 01:30:35,630
I want to speak for this application at this time.

1118
01:30:36,050 --> 01:30:37,810
Anybody turn in the card that you didn't check?

1119
01:30:38,570 --> 01:30:39,850
And your name is?

1120
01:30:40,770 --> 01:30:41,930
Is that one of our?

1121
01:30:47,260 --> 01:30:48,460
And there is there somebody else?

1122
01:30:48,560 --> 01:30:49,060
Where's the hand?

1123
01:30:49,820 --> 01:30:50,040
Where's the hand?

1124
01:30:50,040 --> 01:30:50,520
Where's somebody else?

1125
01:30:50,660 --> 01:30:51,140
Where's the hand?

1126
01:30:51,700 --> 01:30:52,500
Who wants to speak for?

1127
01:30:52,860 --> 01:30:54,060
And do you have a sheet?

1128
01:30:54,440 --> 01:30:55,380
What was your name, sir?

1129
01:30:57,060 --> 01:30:57,440
Rossence.

1130
01:30:58,000 --> 01:30:58,480
Thanks, sir.

1131
01:30:58,780 --> 01:30:58,940
Yes, ma'am.

1132
01:30:59,020 --> 01:31:02,440
I'm Liz Simone and I live at 2494 Windy Oaks.

1133
01:31:02,900 --> 01:31:04,760
And I was one that wrote in.

1134
01:31:04,760 --> 01:31:07,760
because I was concerned about the traffic passing when the eggs.

1135
01:31:09,140 --> 01:31:14,600
But after seeing the numbers, it looks like there are only 15 cars, which I didn't know at the time.

1136
01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:17,460
But I'm okay with this plan.

1137
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:20,780
But I just have a concern about the numbers,

1138
01:31:21,200 --> 01:31:27,800
because how do you get 58 cars, 43 of which will queue in the property,

1139
01:31:28,380 --> 01:31:31,320
and that will leave 15 extra out of 140,

1140
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:38,360
that is because I want my dog and maybe that's the question for the headmaster, but how

1141
01:31:38,360 --> 01:31:42,860
did you get only 58 cars out of the 150 kids going to school?

1142
01:31:45,480 --> 01:31:46,740
Because I don't want my dog

1143
01:31:46,740 --> 01:31:52,400
there, you know, they have the person's name and the student's name, and I don't see more

1144
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:58,520
than one name, so I don't see a lot of carpools, so I just don't understand how it's only

1145
01:31:58,520 --> 01:32:12,420
15 extra cars are only 58 total cars out of 140 students and we'll let you address that with the headmaster and or our staff or somebody and this is just this isn't Q and A as much as just this is to be heard okay.

1146
01:32:13,220 --> 01:32:16,100
Thank you, ma'am.

1147
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:16,960
Ron Spence.

1148
01:32:16,960 --> 01:32:17,400
for

1149
01:32:21,660 --> 01:32:26,060
everything that's been said positive, I come from a family that certainly if you would give

1150
01:32:26,060 --> 01:32:33,140
us your name and address for the next excuse me. Ron Spence, 8475 drew a relay and my drive

1151
01:32:33,140 --> 01:32:40,560
ways on Wendy Oaks. The only thing I want to say is I'm totally in support of the school.

1152
01:32:41,880 --> 01:32:48,700
It's all been said. But using the aforementioned thing that came up and didn't really come

1153
01:32:48,700 --> 01:32:57,560
today was possibly using windyokes as an added traffic. I want everybody to understand that

1154
01:32:57,560 --> 01:33:04,260
windyokes is a fraction of the width. It has no sidewalks all the children on our street or

1155
01:33:04,260 --> 01:33:12,640
in the street on their bicycles and their feet. The other street is 30 percent wider and

1156
01:33:12,640 --> 01:33:18,500
entire lane, it has setbacks and then it has sidewalks, we don't have any of that.

1157
01:33:19,380 --> 01:33:25,080
So it would be a safety item for fire trucks, ambulances, the male carrier would not be

1158
01:33:25,080 --> 01:33:31,480
able to get up, when the oaks with a Q&A cars, it just wouldn't be possible.

1159
01:33:33,780 --> 01:33:38,420
And I've had some experience with emergency calls and seconds count.

1160
01:33:38,420 --> 01:33:43,640
And if you can't get an ambulance, I'm going to deal with which you would not be able to.

1161
01:33:44,100 --> 01:33:44,840
It's going to matter.

1162
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:47,160
But everything else I agree with completely.

1163
01:33:47,520 --> 01:33:49,080
I love this school.

1164
01:33:49,740 --> 01:33:50,440
I love what they do.

1165
01:33:50,740 --> 01:33:51,620
Thank you, Mr. Spence.

1166
01:33:53,060 --> 01:33:53,240
All right.

1167
01:33:53,580 --> 01:33:57,520
I believe that concludes everybody who wishes to speak for the application.

1168
01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:03,380
So we'll revert now over to the anybody who wishes to speak with concerns on the application.

1169
01:34:04,640 --> 01:34:14,740
And just for the record as our legal counsel said, I count the way at nine people speak, so we would have up to nine people on the concerns side if that's where we get to.

1170
01:34:14,840 --> 01:34:15,800
Larry Welles?

1171
01:34:26,270 --> 01:34:29,430
I don't know how to be brief, so I'll help you with this.

1172
01:34:29,490 --> 01:34:31,170
If I can't make that happen.

1173
01:34:32,210 --> 01:34:33,110
My name is Larry Welles.

1174
01:34:33,230 --> 01:34:35,970
I live at 8570 Redbud Trail Cove.

1175
01:34:36,270 --> 01:34:39,710
I've been there for 26 years.

1176
01:34:39,710 --> 01:34:48,310
Um, we think great neighbors, uh, the only issue I wanted to bring to the committee today

1177
01:34:48,310 --> 01:34:59,570
is I, um, increasingly, for the last 20 years, the drainage has become more and more predominantly.

1178
01:35:00,000 --> 01:35:07,960
Flawing from Bodine into all of the backyards on the south side of red, but south side of your property.

1179
01:35:10,260 --> 01:35:18,700
And I know about the city's drainage plan and their difficulties in being able to find a solution for us.

1180
01:35:18,920 --> 01:35:24,720
And I know that Bodine's been very kind and offering their property to help alleviate those problems.

1181
01:35:24,720 --> 01:35:39,620
Um, I hope in this construction that some of the existing issues with the drainage into the houses or the backyards on the south side of your property can be mitigated with your new construction.

1182
01:35:40,180 --> 01:35:41,180
That's all I'd like to ask.

1183
01:35:41,640 --> 01:35:43,160
I don't have hose construction.

1184
01:35:43,480 --> 01:35:45,380
I think that you guys do a great job.

1185
01:35:45,880 --> 01:35:46,600
You're great neighbors.

1186
01:35:47,180 --> 01:35:48,040
Please help us out.

1187
01:35:48,160 --> 01:35:48,520
We're drowning.

1188
01:35:48,820 --> 01:35:49,700
Thank you, Mr. Wills.

1189
01:35:53,360 --> 01:35:53,960
Cynthia Tucker?

1190
01:35:54,580 --> 01:35:55,440
Dr. Cynthia Tucker?

1191
01:35:55,440 --> 01:35:56,020
As

1192
01:35:59,980 --> 01:36:04,580
she said, I am Dr. Cynthia Tucker, and I am a newbie.

1193
01:36:04,980 --> 01:36:06,200
Be generous for the record point.

1194
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:06,740
Thank you.

1195
01:36:06,940 --> 01:36:09,940
It's two, four, four, six, red bud trail drive.

1196
01:36:10,660 --> 01:36:13,760
I've only lived in the neighborhood less than a year actually,

1197
01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:19,360
and interestingly, I didn't even know all of this was going on

1198
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:22,360
until I heard some of the neighbors discussing it.

1199
01:36:22,940 --> 01:36:26,420
And no one has said, pardon me, no one has said anything negative

1200
01:36:26,420 --> 01:36:28,540
about Bodine School at all.

1201
01:36:28,900 --> 01:36:32,200
However, I would, and I have not, I don't know the history,

1202
01:36:32,700 --> 01:36:33,920
literally, I've shown up today.

1203
01:36:34,540 --> 01:36:38,220
So it's all new to me, but I would like to express some concerns

1204
01:36:38,220 --> 01:36:41,840
that I hope will be taken and reviewed objectively,

1205
01:36:43,040 --> 01:36:44,940
given the data that you all have,

1206
01:36:44,940 --> 01:36:47,560
and I don't know if it's accessible to us or not.

1207
01:36:47,860 --> 01:36:49,220
However, it's two categories.

1208
01:36:49,820 --> 01:36:53,080
One would be what was just brought up about the ability

1209
01:36:53,080 --> 01:36:59,480
to get in and out of the neighborhood, and the other would be the congestion.

1210
01:37:00,980 --> 01:37:05,360
Go into it, it wasn't even thinking about this, as I said, I'm a newbie, but going up

1211
01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:10,020
and down dogwood because my parents live on the other side of dogwood and going up and

1212
01:37:10,020 --> 01:37:20,160
down dogwood for several years, I'm originally from San Diego, so I do not have age or

1213
01:37:20,160 --> 01:37:31,100
Georgia's, when you have Farmington on courtes, when you have, is it Riverdale? What's the

1214
01:37:31,100 --> 01:37:37,880
elementary? Thank you. They're at 4 cell Irene. Basically, every way that we have to get

1215
01:37:37,880 --> 01:37:45,180
in and out is occupied. So my father did, people are bringing personal things up. My father

1216
01:37:45,180 --> 01:37:53,540
had a heart attack year and a half ago, and Vinnie had a follow-up situation that was very intense.

1217
01:37:54,620 --> 01:37:59,760
He doesn't live on my side, but I'm just saying that there are real considerations for the

1218
01:37:59,760 --> 01:38:02,340
ability to get in and out of the neighborhood.

1219
01:38:03,220 --> 01:38:05,120
And I don't know what a collector's street is.

1220
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:06,920
I'd never heard of that, but I'm intrigued.

1221
01:38:07,560 --> 01:38:08,440
And I looked it up.

1222
01:38:08,460 --> 01:38:14,280
I'm wondering if, sorry, again, I'm new to the neighborhood, and I wasn't expecting

1223
01:38:14,280 --> 01:38:21,820
to be here. What is the street where boat I actually is? Thank you. I don't know if that is

1224
01:38:21,820 --> 01:38:28,480
the same size as courtes and dogwood. I don't know with those considerations, but I do

1225
01:38:28,480 --> 01:38:36,200
feel that they are valid and worthy of consideration. Secondly, is the problem with the flooding.

1226
01:38:37,040 --> 01:38:46,400
It is pretty intense and, again, I missed the last meeting, which is separate from this on what's going on with drainage blood.

1227
01:38:46,560 --> 01:38:47,700
You're at 15 seconds.

1228
01:38:48,600 --> 01:38:50,360
So it is very intense.

1229
01:38:50,620 --> 01:38:51,760
It's a real thing.

1230
01:38:52,180 --> 01:38:56,940
And again, I hope that you all would be looking out for us because we're not even eligible.

1231
01:38:57,160 --> 01:39:02,020
Some of us were flood insurance, but we are certainly have to having lived there for a few months.

1232
01:39:02,020 --> 01:39:06,660
and a situation where we could be flooded, and that would not be fun, especially with no insurance.

1233
01:39:08,020 --> 01:39:13,420
So nothing to do with Bojain itself, the mission is wonderful, that people are wonderful,

1234
01:39:13,980 --> 01:39:17,940
and we also have real world concerns that I think should be considered,

1235
01:39:19,120 --> 01:39:20,740
and I didn't know it wasn't answers also.

1236
01:39:21,100 --> 01:39:24,760
So if the Army answers, that we can access, please let us know.

1237
01:39:25,120 --> 01:39:25,780
Thank you, Mr. Tucker.

1238
01:39:26,220 --> 01:39:27,060
I appreciate the time.

1239
01:39:30,590 --> 01:39:31,270
Tim Falls.

1240
01:39:41,880 --> 01:39:53,480
I know I spoke a couple of weeks ago to a preliminary meeting, but I want to say that I don't think there's anyone in this room who would be opposed,

1241
01:39:54,640 --> 01:39:59,980
Just put a great institution and I put it right there with our city.

1242
01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,660
Any schools and Madonna Learning Center?

1243
01:40:04,940 --> 01:40:08,120
I would love to help fund raising for a new but on-school building

1244
01:40:08,120 --> 01:40:15,280
where they could get up to 200 students, because that's going to be needed. It's not just 40. It's a lot more. We heard the one in five.

1245
01:40:17,540 --> 01:40:24,160
Something that was missing from the presentation was, you go from current to that other drawing.

1246
01:40:24,660 --> 01:40:27,760
How long does that take the year?

1247
01:40:28,420 --> 01:40:30,000
What is the mitigation in the end?

1248
01:40:30,140 --> 01:40:32,280
How did they get students in and out of the school

1249
01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:33,640
during that year of construction?

1250
01:40:34,180 --> 01:40:36,280
That was not mentioned at all.

1251
01:40:36,920 --> 01:40:39,180
And there got to be plans for that.

1252
01:40:39,940 --> 01:40:42,440
That's a small, sweet and residential neighborhood.

1253
01:40:43,680 --> 01:40:45,720
So I'm not sure if that was ever brought up,

1254
01:40:46,060 --> 01:40:47,380
but I didn't hear it tonight.

1255
01:40:48,900 --> 01:40:51,880
So I think there's still a lot of problems

1256
01:40:51,880 --> 01:40:59,340
and should be tabled until that is settled what's going to happen in the meantime.

1257
01:41:01,100 --> 01:41:01,620
Thank

1258
01:41:03,990 --> 01:41:04,510
you.

1259
01:41:04,750 --> 01:41:05,530
Daniel French?

1260
01:41:12,220 --> 01:41:13,540
I'm Daniel French.

1261
01:41:13,740 --> 01:41:16,400
I live on Wendiox, I'm at 2556.

1262
01:41:17,320 --> 01:41:20,580
I appreciate all of you, your time, really.

1263
01:41:20,780 --> 01:41:25,140
I can tell you're all very listening and I know everybody's had long days,

1264
01:41:25,240 --> 01:41:26,340
so I really appreciate that.

1265
01:41:27,020 --> 01:41:30,180
I wanted to echo Mr. Spence said,

1266
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:32,920
my understanding, I wasn't at the previous meetings,

1267
01:41:33,520 --> 01:41:36,400
either, but my understanding originally was that

1268
01:41:36,400 --> 01:41:39,680
Wendy Oaks was going to be utilized for traffic.

1269
01:41:40,580 --> 01:41:43,740
I live on Wendy Oaks, I'm at the top of the hill,

1270
01:41:44,260 --> 01:41:45,960
as it goes into yes to roaks.

1271
01:41:46,020 --> 01:41:49,960
It's a very tight curve, it's a small street,

1272
01:41:50,580 --> 01:41:55,240
and any of us that have dropped our kids off

1273
01:41:55,240 --> 01:42:00,680
German town schools knows that you can have a plan for a drop-off, but parents sometimes

1274
01:42:00,680 --> 01:42:06,320
just want to do their own thing and unfortunately vote on can't enforce or keep parents

1275
01:42:06,320 --> 01:42:10,240
awful in the Oaks and I really think there has to be a plan for that.

1276
01:42:10,520 --> 01:42:10,820
That's true.

1277
01:42:10,880 --> 01:42:16,600
I mean we have kids, a whole new families moved in and it drives me nuts but I'm coming down

1278
01:42:16,600 --> 01:42:21,280
the street and their kids are on big wheels all in the middle of the street and it is

1279
01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:25,000
it's just a tight street, people park on the side of the street.

1280
01:42:25,520 --> 01:42:28,220
And so I just want to make sure that that's addressed.

1281
01:42:28,740 --> 01:42:31,740
I also just wanted to say, I think it's unfortunate that

1282
01:42:31,740 --> 01:42:34,280
some comments were made suggesting that there is

1283
01:42:34,980 --> 01:42:37,420
motivation against vote on from the people that

1284
01:42:37,420 --> 01:42:40,340
have reasonable concerns that live in this neighborhood.

1285
01:42:40,540 --> 01:42:41,600
That's very unfortunate.

1286
01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:45,820
That is the furthest thing from the truth.

1287
01:42:46,040 --> 01:42:48,400
I can speak to that for everyone that's here.

1288
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:56,180
There is no vendetta. I think that word was used. That was offensive to me. I've learned so much,

1289
01:42:56,180 --> 01:43:01,000
just listening to these inspirational stories about what this school does. It's amazing.

1290
01:43:01,780 --> 01:43:08,700
I would love to donate and figure out how to expand vote on. It's amazing. Like hearing about that,

1291
01:43:10,660 --> 01:43:15,960
I think that kind of stuff should just be tossed to the side. I think people that are here tonight

1292
01:43:15,960 --> 01:43:21,060
have genuine concerns about a neighborhood they live in and it's as simple as that and I think

1293
01:43:21,060 --> 01:43:28,340
this process is speak highly of German town that people can come out and express themselves

1294
01:43:28,340 --> 01:43:33,800
and be heard and so I very much appreciate your time and I appreciate the seriousness to which

1295
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:40,600
this is being taken. Thank you Mr. French and I think the headmaster still here he would definitely take

1296
01:43:42,260 --> 01:43:43,700
Donation Scott sweeter

1297
01:43:50,450 --> 01:43:54,650
my name Scott sweeter and I live at two four six four yes

1298
01:43:54,650 --> 01:43:58,930
Strokes three houses down from bow dines. I've been there since 1994

1299
01:43:58,930 --> 01:44:05,150
So I've lived here for 32 years. There's first fall. There's nobody in this room that has any issues with

1300
01:44:05,150 --> 01:44:10,110
Bow dines itself and especially the education they provide. It's really all comes down to what we've been

1301
01:44:10,110 --> 01:44:16,290
talking about 90% of time is traffic and that being said maybe we need a positive little figure out

1302
01:44:16,290 --> 01:44:22,570
traffic because there was a couple of points that I'm going to add on to one peak to the punchline

1303
01:44:22,570 --> 01:44:27,970
there was a year construction. What's going to happen in that whole year with all those

1304
01:44:27,970 --> 01:44:35,870
cars? The, you know, the math, one lady brought the math. It's like 2.5 people, students,

1305
01:44:36,170 --> 01:44:40,650
per car. I don't know if that's true. I walked out every day with my dog. People probably

1306
01:44:40,650 --> 01:44:45,090
me with a little white dog there, the line goes out, it's still going to go out along.

1307
01:44:47,070 --> 01:44:53,530
It is built to the standards of a collector's street, but let's be clear, it is not a collector's

1308
01:44:53,530 --> 01:44:53,770
street.

1309
01:44:54,790 --> 01:44:58,830
Now, when you say that, the future is like the past.

1310
01:44:58,830 --> 01:44:59,970
You know, bow down and have the opportunity.

1311
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:14,440
Who needed to go through and make the road through the property to dogwood? I wouldn't be here today if that was, in case nobody would be here, but they didn't. So, you know, you can't change the past, we don't know the future. Right now it's not a collector's street.

1312
01:45:16,440 --> 01:45:19,620
The cars, even though it's built for four lanes,

1313
01:45:20,000 --> 01:45:22,500
is what they say, all the people, you know,

1314
01:45:22,640 --> 01:45:24,280
people park in front of their house.

1315
01:45:24,860 --> 01:45:26,200
And then you add the Congo line,

1316
01:45:26,300 --> 01:45:29,860
and they snake around the cars, and the driveways.

1317
01:45:29,880 --> 01:45:30,720
They do a pretty good job,

1318
01:45:30,840 --> 01:45:32,220
staying away from the driveways.

1319
01:45:33,000 --> 01:45:35,980
And then, you know, then you have the two-way traffic,

1320
01:45:36,380 --> 01:45:37,540
and then you put on the other side,

1321
01:45:38,420 --> 01:45:39,160
landscaping company.

1322
01:45:39,260 --> 01:45:41,000
They don't have the room for the stuff.

1323
01:45:41,780 --> 01:45:42,760
For Mr. Sloan?

1324
01:45:42,760 --> 01:45:53,780
Yeah, I think it might be a good idea to put some schools on signs up, maybe a light, I've never ever seen a Germantown police sit there and monitor that street ever.

1325
01:45:54,460 --> 01:46:01,760
And look, kids, that's high school coming out. They're not going 15. I don't care what the study says. Sometimes they're going 40 easily.

1326
01:46:02,100 --> 01:46:07,640
I've, you know, I'll stare them down, but well, I'm not going to do anything. But you know, there's no signs of school zone.

1327
01:46:07,640 --> 01:46:16,240
make it a school zone unless you don't want to because it's a subdivision, but I've had my driveway blocked over three times.

1328
01:46:16,480 --> 01:46:21,740
One time a lady parked right at the end and I couldn't get on my driveway. I did call her, I'm down

1329
01:46:21,740 --> 01:46:26,860
police department and I'm like, wow, she'll eventually leave. She's in the school. I was late to work that day.

1330
01:46:27,520 --> 01:46:37,620
And that's a rarity and I've went and talked to the admin up at Bowdoin and they were great and they kind of

1331
01:46:37,620 --> 01:46:44,460
And there's people who have their trash not picked up, and you're 15 seconds, sir.

1332
01:46:44,900 --> 01:46:48,080
And that Lakongoline, it's a solid, it starts at 3 o'clock.

1333
01:46:48,720 --> 01:46:52,860
So, but anyhow, I'm just saying that we need the baby pause and look at this traffic,

1334
01:46:53,060 --> 01:46:55,360
because we spent way too much time looking at it right now.

1335
01:46:55,440 --> 01:46:56,900
We have more questions and answers.

1336
01:46:57,360 --> 01:46:58,340
Thank you.

1337
01:46:58,580 --> 01:46:59,600
Thank you, Mr. Switton.

1338
01:47:00,380 --> 01:47:01,220
Mark Mr. Ray.

1339
01:47:09,740 --> 01:47:10,560
Hi, Mark Mr. Ray.

1340
01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:12,060
2411, Mr. Oxtrive.

1341
01:47:12,240 --> 01:47:14,000
I've been living directly opposite boat.

1342
01:47:14,120 --> 01:47:15,060
That was a little quick.

1343
01:47:15,060 --> 01:47:16,240
How do you spell your last name?

1344
01:47:16,640 --> 01:47:19,640
B-U-I-S-S-E-R-E-T.

1345
01:47:19,940 --> 01:47:20,780
Thank you.

1346
01:47:20,840 --> 01:47:21,120
I quit.

1347
01:47:21,200 --> 01:47:21,980
You don't have to worry about it.

1348
01:47:21,980 --> 01:47:22,780
Start saying it.

1349
01:47:23,400 --> 01:47:25,280
I've lived the opposite boat I for 15 years,

1350
01:47:25,440 --> 01:47:27,820
and I can corroborate what a lot of these folks are saying

1351
01:47:27,820 --> 01:47:31,240
about the amount of time that actually cars are queued up.

1352
01:47:31,440 --> 01:47:32,680
Definitely starts before 3.

1353
01:47:32,820 --> 01:47:34,780
Been working at home for seven years now.

1354
01:47:35,000 --> 01:47:37,120
I can see every day, they queued up.

1355
01:47:37,440 --> 01:47:39,260
No objection to bow down in general.

1356
01:47:39,660 --> 01:47:41,920
I just think that they need to retake another look

1357
01:47:41,920 --> 01:47:47,440
those projections on cars queuing, cars pursuit and all that. I think they're very optimistic,

1358
01:47:47,900 --> 01:47:53,120
they assume perfect behavior from people with parents cycling in and out every, every

1359
01:47:53,120 --> 01:47:57,260
couple of years on average, two to three years. I just don't think it's going to be as

1360
01:47:57,260 --> 01:48:01,560
rosy as they think it will be. So, that's all I have to say. Okay. Thank you, sir.

1361
01:48:04,140 --> 01:48:04,720
Rand Bolton?

1362
01:48:09,500 --> 01:48:13,680
Hello, my name is Rand Bolton. I live at 24, 22, yesterday I was dropped. Thank you

1363
01:48:13,680 --> 01:48:16,740
to the Planning Commission for allowing me to speak today.

1364
01:48:18,620 --> 01:48:28,440
My family is a supporter for the success of vote on however their current side is obviously not the proper location for a 41 to 44,000 square foot school.

1365
01:48:28,760 --> 01:48:34,880
In addition to safety and traffic concerns, the Planning Commission should not approve the proposed final site plan for several reasons.

1366
01:48:35,540 --> 01:48:39,420
As you know, a private school can be approved as a conditional use in the art district.

1367
01:48:40,100 --> 01:48:42,560
However, according to the zoning code and I quote,

1368
01:48:42,560 --> 01:48:54,840
use is permitted by a conditional use permits shall be located only route designated as either a major street or a collector street on the official major road plan.

1369
01:48:55,220 --> 01:49:02,220
Yesteroke does not qualify. Planning staff states in the report that to be a collector street it must be a link between two major roads.

1370
01:49:02,220 --> 01:49:09,280
The city decided in 1981, 41 years ago, that yesterday folks would not be a collector

1371
01:49:09,280 --> 01:49:13,580
street, would not connect to Falker Avenue, when they approved the construction of windy

1372
01:49:13,580 --> 01:49:20,140
Oak Strive at the south end. It was not in 2024 as state didn't stop report. Yesterday Oak

1373
01:49:20,140 --> 01:49:25,840
Strive has never been a collector street. The original school building was built in 1976

1374
01:49:25,840 --> 01:49:32,100
on 9.73 acres, which had frontage on dogwood road. Yesterday Oak Strive did not even

1375
01:49:32,100 --> 01:49:37,280
exist. However, in 1997, the school sold 4.5 acres

1376
01:49:37,280 --> 01:49:40,200
fronting on dogwood road, leaving them a low

1377
01:49:40,200 --> 01:49:44,080
frontage on a collector street or a major street. The only access left

1378
01:49:44,080 --> 01:49:47,340
was on Yesterok's drive with only 53 feet of frontage.

1379
01:49:48,500 --> 01:49:51,020
Due to this substantial change to the original property,

1380
01:49:51,460 --> 01:49:55,360
any school approval prior to 1997 should not be relevant.

1381
01:49:57,040 --> 01:49:59,240
City officials have stated that they have a legal opinion

1382
01:49:59,240 --> 01:49:59,980
and at the planning committee.

1383
01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:25,000
Commission does have the authority to approve a conditional use permit on the vote on property. However, the city staff declined to provide a copy of the opinion for review and stated that they had a attorney client privilege. The planning commission should fully review that legal opinion to determine its validity and make it public. The proposed site plan does not address existing code violations on the vote on property.

1384
01:50:25,000 --> 01:50:29,800
These range from the existing parking lot lighting to removal of previously approved landscape

1385
01:50:29,800 --> 01:50:35,900
screens, the existing location of the dumpster violates the zoning code and should be corrected.

1386
01:50:36,120 --> 01:50:40,180
If they're going to spend $10 million, they should be doing it correctly.

1387
01:50:41,120 --> 01:50:46,560
Before a final site plan is approved, the planning commission should confirm that it won fully

1388
01:50:46,560 --> 01:50:50,820
complies with all the requirements of the zoning code, including being a legal use.

1389
01:50:50,820 --> 01:50:56,820
That's going to be difficult since the proposal, obviously, violates the clear language of the code.

1390
01:50:57,140 --> 01:51:05,600
That both on B required correct all existing zoning violations, including installing proper landscape screens and relocation to dumpster.

1391
01:51:06,220 --> 01:51:10,740
The site planche is specifically state the maximum enrollment as Mr. McCurray said.

1392
01:51:11,280 --> 01:51:14,820
And the city, not the school should determine the safest route for school traffic.

1393
01:51:14,820 --> 01:51:20,360
We have a large number of children in the neighborhood of the city should not be taken any action that will increase traffic on these

1394
01:51:21,100 --> 01:51:25,220
residential streets safety for the neighborhood residents who are citizens of Germantown

1395
01:51:25,900 --> 01:51:29,760
Should be a primary concern. Thank you. Thank you, sir

1396
01:51:33,980 --> 01:51:40,500
Mr. McCree that those are all the forms. We have are there any other citizens that would like to speak that haven't spoken yet

1397
01:51:42,700 --> 01:51:46,800
Okay, please please come up and then you have to fill out a sheet after

1398
01:51:47,340 --> 01:51:49,260
Okay. Okay. Thank you.

1399
01:51:59,110 --> 01:52:01,130
So are you wishing to speak or just stretch in your legs?

1400
01:52:02,570 --> 01:52:02,650
Okay.

1401
01:52:03,450 --> 01:52:03,730
Okay.

1402
01:52:06,210 --> 01:52:06,450
Okay.

1403
01:52:07,470 --> 01:52:11,810
My name is Leslie Bolden. I live at 24, 22, yesterday's job.

1404
01:52:12,750 --> 01:52:16,890
My house is directly in front of boat on school, and I've lived there for 30 years.

1405
01:52:17,230 --> 01:52:22,250
When we moved there, we had two little children and a third one on the way.

1406
01:52:23,330 --> 01:52:29,370
And we have enjoyed living in front of boat on all these years when they were little it was a good place to be.

1407
01:52:29,850 --> 01:52:32,930
We were sort of hidden because or they were hidden.

1408
01:52:33,470 --> 01:52:36,270
We had a landscape screen along the back of our fence.

1409
01:52:37,570 --> 01:52:40,910
We didn't feel like the traffic was not as much as it is now.

1410
01:52:41,910 --> 01:52:43,550
They have added on buildings.

1411
01:52:44,050 --> 01:52:45,410
They've added on a garage.

1412
01:52:46,890 --> 01:52:49,650
And so they have increased since size since we've been there.

1413
01:52:50,530 --> 01:53:01,390
And everybody's talked about the traffic and my office is at home and I sit in the window right in front of yesterdays road so I watch that traffic every single day.

1414
01:53:01,970 --> 01:53:11,850
The first car's line up at 245 to 250 and they are outside on yesterdays by 3 o'clock if not sooner.

1415
01:53:11,850 --> 01:53:20,150
So a lot of people don't know that because they're not there, but I'm there every single day, and I watch now the traffic is the least amount of concerns

1416
01:53:21,670 --> 01:53:24,330
Although I am concerned about it

1417
01:53:24,850 --> 01:53:36,290
The fact that they cut down our landscape screen when they told us they would never do that and then they told us they would put something back in place and they never did

1418
01:53:36,290 --> 01:53:45,570
They promised to install a landscape screen or a fence around the dumpster when they installed that even though that was against city code

1419
01:53:45,570 --> 01:53:53,470
They were approved to do it, but only because they would hold the city that they would put up some sort of screening or landscape and they never did it

1420
01:53:54,190 --> 01:54:02,210
They promised to look into changing the street lights that are in their parking lot. There are really street lights not just parking lot lights

1421
01:54:02,210 --> 01:54:06,450
And because they're against code also, they're code violation.

1422
01:54:07,850 --> 01:54:12,110
And they never did anything, so those whites are still there.

1423
01:54:13,310 --> 01:54:20,730
I just want to know, I truly believe that this expansion does not belong in our neighborhood.

1424
01:54:21,290 --> 01:54:27,090
This is a $41,000, I mean, school in our backyard.

1425
01:54:28,070 --> 01:54:34,350
Bowdown as it is has not been an issue except for the traffic and some of the issues that

1426
01:54:34,350 --> 01:54:42,630
they've done as far as the lighting and the parking and the dumpster and our landscape screen.

1427
01:54:44,970 --> 01:54:49,550
I think that the houses around the perimeter that are going to have all their trees cut

1428
01:54:49,550 --> 01:54:55,810
down are going to see that it's not a good thing to have those street light shining in

1429
01:54:55,810 --> 01:54:59,350
house and it's not a good thing to have the school bullhorn.

1430
01:54:59,390 --> 01:54:59,850
You're good.

1431
01:55:00,000 --> 01:55:06,840
Seconds. They use a bullet horn at the end of the day. So anyway, to wrap it up, I don't agree with this expansion.

1432
01:55:07,060 --> 01:55:15,380
I hope that you will take the time to consider all the issues. I don't have a problem with what boat on does and how they do it.

1433
01:55:15,460 --> 01:55:20,420
I just don't think it's needs an expansion of this size in our backyard. Thank you for your time.

1434
01:55:20,860 --> 01:55:27,900
Thank you, Ms. Bowdoin. All right, Ms. Gordon. Unless you got one more, and that will wrap us up because we had nine people on the four side,

1435
01:55:27,900 --> 01:55:30,220
which gave them amount of time per legal counsel.

1436
01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:32,300
We've given the same amount of time with nine people

1437
01:55:32,300 --> 01:55:34,860
on the against side, so you'll be our final speaker tonight.

1438
01:55:36,320 --> 01:55:37,300
My name is William Wates.

1439
01:55:37,360 --> 01:55:39,920
I live at 2447 in Red Blitz-Rail Drive.

1440
01:55:41,000 --> 01:55:45,580
I have a particularly unique perspective in all of this.

1441
01:55:46,140 --> 01:55:47,800
As a young person, I actually

1442
01:55:47,800 --> 01:55:49,560
struggle with severe learning disabilities.

1443
01:55:49,720 --> 01:55:54,460
I actually attended Bowdoin through several summer programs,

1444
01:55:54,940 --> 01:55:57,380
also have family members who have been students there.

1445
01:55:57,380 --> 01:56:04,400
friends so on. So I had to feel somewhat connected to the school, and I usually support

1446
01:56:04,400 --> 01:56:10,340
everything that they do. My one concern that I want to raise as somebody who lives right

1447
01:56:10,340 --> 01:56:14,720
in the southeast corner would be the drainage. Currently,

1448
01:56:17,000 --> 01:56:18,240
nobody else can see it because

1449
01:56:18,240 --> 01:56:23,600
it's in our backyard, but there's a levee built up on the backside of our yard where when it

1450
01:56:23,600 --> 01:56:28,840
running extremely hard, that water comes up, and it even spills over that little levee system.

1451
01:56:29,060 --> 01:56:34,800
And basically, a river going down our driveway, and it actually floods one of our neighbor's homes.

1452
01:56:35,460 --> 01:56:45,300
My major concern during the, particularly during the construction phase of this is what can be done to prevent any of the drainage issues from getting worse.

1453
01:56:46,160 --> 01:56:49,420
Runoff can be an issue during construction projects, all those things.

1454
01:56:49,420 --> 01:57:01,180
So, I just would ask, go down to make it a priority to like, ensure that those grants are clear, and I support everything like they're an amazing thing.

1455
01:57:01,680 --> 01:57:07,220
I'm so thankful they exist, but that's all I want to use.

1456
01:57:07,920 --> 01:57:08,840
So, thank you so much.

1457
01:57:09,080 --> 01:57:10,280
Thank you very much.

1458
01:57:11,480 --> 01:57:19,180
You know, I can't thank everybody enough for coming out tonight on either side of no, whatever there's the outcome.

1459
01:57:19,180 --> 01:57:23,620
that we have before us. There's going to be some people that might be upset and may not, but

1460
01:57:23,620 --> 01:57:28,700
the fact that the system works like this is really great. You know, we come to these meetings

1461
01:57:29,420 --> 01:57:35,580
and there's some times that there's some fairly important things going on and you look and

1462
01:57:35,580 --> 01:57:40,100
there's nobody there and we're out of here in 15 minutes and I've always question that, but for

1463
01:57:40,100 --> 01:57:44,040
you guys to take time out of your evening and away from your families and and come out and express

1464
01:57:44,040 --> 01:57:49,160
your concerns. It's enlightening for all of us as planning commission members and so thank you

1465
01:57:49,160 --> 01:57:52,880
you very, very much for your time and your effort and your words.

1466
01:57:53,500 --> 01:57:59,280
Guests the emotions and the passion on both sides is great.

1467
01:58:00,320 --> 01:58:02,880
So again, I want to speak for all of our commissioners in our city.

1468
01:58:03,120 --> 01:58:04,960
Thank you, everyone, for coming out tonight.

1469
01:58:05,840 --> 01:58:09,280
So at this particular point in time, I'll get a motion from our Vice Chair Bacon.

1470
01:58:09,380 --> 01:58:10,720
Would you please make a motion please?

1471
01:58:14,560 --> 01:58:19,820
Motion is the approval, the approval of conditional use permit

1472
01:58:19,820 --> 01:58:27,740
and a revised final site plan for the Bowdoin School 2432 Yesteroke's Drive subject to the staff

1473
01:58:27,740 --> 01:58:33,020
report, conditions of approval, and general requirements listed above plans and documents

1474
01:58:33,020 --> 01:58:33,820
submit with you.

1475
01:58:34,640 --> 01:58:36,660
Thank you Vice Chair Baking, can I get a second?

1476
01:58:36,860 --> 01:58:43,000
Second, we've got a second for our mayor, Paozola, is there any discussion at this particular

1477
01:58:43,000 --> 01:58:43,900
point in time?

1478
01:58:44,660 --> 01:58:48,600
And I'd like to start the discussion with the fact that I'd like to get a motion if possible

1479
01:58:49,120 --> 01:58:55,400
in a second if possible to, again, not knowing the outcome, if it were a positive, though

1480
01:58:55,400 --> 01:59:01,240
I would like to make a motion to what I said earlier, which is an agreement with the

1481
01:59:01,240 --> 01:59:07,260
school, so we don't have additional creep or additional intensity in that regard that we

1482
01:59:07,260 --> 01:59:11,600
would cap the conditional use at 140 students.

1483
01:59:12,040 --> 01:59:13,700
I would second that and support that.

1484
01:59:14,380 --> 01:59:15,440
We got a motion in a second.

1485
01:59:15,560 --> 01:59:16,760
There's any discussion on that.

1486
01:59:17,360 --> 01:59:25,260
Just a clarification from Council, so Chairman Kerry amended the existing motion, is that, is that the correct correct.

1487
01:59:26,660 --> 01:59:27,020
Yeah.

1488
01:59:27,480 --> 01:59:27,560
Okay.

1489
01:59:27,640 --> 01:59:28,420
We got a motion.

1490
01:59:28,620 --> 01:59:30,760
We got a second, and then I made an amended motion.

1491
01:59:30,940 --> 01:59:31,160
Okay.

1492
01:59:31,160 --> 01:59:32,020
And we got a second.

1493
01:59:32,040 --> 01:59:34,460
We're going to vote on the amended motion first.

1494
01:59:34,680 --> 01:59:35,780
Then go back to the original.

1495
01:59:36,460 --> 01:59:36,840
Got it.

1496
01:59:37,020 --> 01:59:37,660
Thank you.

1497
01:59:37,880 --> 01:59:38,520
So no comments.

1498
01:59:38,660 --> 01:59:40,620
Can we get a roll call on the amended motion, please?

1499
01:59:44,380 --> 01:59:48,820
I'm just to clear, I'm voted on the motion, as I'm in it, not the motion itself.

1500
01:59:49,320 --> 01:59:59,820
We're voting on the amendment to be included in the main motion, and then you'll be voting on that main motion with the amendment included if you choose to vote on positive side.

1501
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:04,880
Mr. Chairman, can you please read exactly what the amendment is?

1502
02:00:07,080 --> 02:00:14,420
I don't know the verbatim words, but the mission here is that the use permit that we are approving,

1503
02:00:14,720 --> 02:00:24,840
the conditional use that we're approving at this time, we'll cap the number of students going forward in perpetuity at 140 students,

1504
02:00:25,740 --> 02:00:32,660
which is there are more allowables to stop but there are more allowable under the permit

1505
02:00:32,660 --> 02:00:35,860
but I'm caping it, I'm asking to cap it at 140.

1506
02:00:38,520 --> 02:00:43,700
Mr. Chairman, I don't think the amendment is necessary if I understood correctly if the school

1507
02:00:43,700 --> 02:00:50,640
wanted to go beyond the 140 student population they would have to come back to the planning

1508
02:00:50,640 --> 02:00:52,800
commission with another proposal.

1509
02:00:53,200 --> 02:00:53,840
Is that correct?

1510
02:00:53,840 --> 02:00:58,000
I'm trying to circumvent that, I would prefer that not to happen.

1511
02:00:58,140 --> 02:01:02,240
I would like to give the neighbors some assurances now at the CAP's 140 today and from

1512
02:01:02,240 --> 02:01:02,880
that one.

1513
02:01:03,300 --> 02:01:05,040
Not the opportunity to come back.

1514
02:01:05,240 --> 02:01:08,860
Mr. Chairman, you can't buy in the future planning conditions.

1515
02:01:09,080 --> 02:01:16,660
I think, the other saying the same thing, if any CAP, if any, if there was any reason

1516
02:01:16,660 --> 02:01:22,780
to exceed 140, the process would be to go through this process again.

1517
02:01:22,780 --> 02:01:29,020
this body can't bind the hands of a future planning commission with with no relief whatsoever.

1518
02:01:29,040 --> 02:01:35,660
Correct, but I can put a condition in the application that they would cap their students at 140.

1519
02:01:36,200 --> 02:01:38,120
It would be a condition inside the application.

1520
02:01:39,340 --> 02:01:39,800
Yes, go.

1521
02:01:41,020 --> 02:01:44,040
But just but that's only applicable to this.

1522
02:01:44,820 --> 02:01:52,600
So really I have to agree that it's not I mean it's stating it and I don't have a problem.

1523
02:01:52,600 --> 02:01:57,060
I'm putting that statement in there, but I don't do that at all.

1524
02:01:59,730 --> 02:02:03,610
But we cannot forbid them from coming back with another application later.

1525
02:02:04,030 --> 02:02:05,870
You can come back to change any law on the city.

1526
02:02:06,070 --> 02:02:08,490
You want to in that regard it by going through the process.

1527
02:02:09,150 --> 02:02:13,590
But this would cap it and not give them an automatic ability to go to 200,

1528
02:02:14,130 --> 02:02:15,590
which is what the use.

1529
02:02:16,070 --> 02:02:17,710
No, they would not have an automatic.

1530
02:02:18,030 --> 02:02:18,750
That's what they're saying.

1531
02:02:18,850 --> 02:02:19,610
There is no automatic.

1532
02:02:20,190 --> 02:02:21,650
They would always have to come back.

1533
02:02:21,650 --> 02:02:23,570
because their application is for 140.

1534
02:02:23,990 --> 02:02:25,890
And that's all we're voting on tonight.

1535
02:02:28,540 --> 02:02:31,420
Well, Mr. Chairman, if we were a colleague,

1536
02:02:31,560 --> 02:02:35,580
Mr. Bacon made the motion, your standard motion

1537
02:02:36,560 --> 02:02:41,400
is approval as set out in the conditions in the site plan.

1538
02:02:42,100 --> 02:02:44,780
So the site plan, theoretically,

1539
02:02:45,380 --> 02:02:47,040
they could accommodate more students

1540
02:02:47,040 --> 02:02:49,100
without amending their site plan, right?

1541
02:02:49,100 --> 02:02:52,000
They could do internal changes to the floor plan.

1542
02:02:52,000 --> 02:02:55,280
and not trigger a visit here.

1543
02:02:56,080 --> 02:02:59,080
So I think without staffing, without placing a condition,

1544
02:02:59,600 --> 02:03:01,300
capping the students, theoretically,

1545
02:03:01,700 --> 02:03:04,500
there would be a way to increase the students

1546
02:03:04,500 --> 02:03:06,140
without coming back to this body.

1547
02:03:07,380 --> 02:03:07,640
Correct.

1548
02:03:08,560 --> 02:03:09,400
The other thing is something.

1549
02:03:11,440 --> 02:03:13,000
I don't know, yes, on the amendment.

1550
02:03:14,400 --> 02:03:17,100
So there's another discussion on the amendment.

1551
02:03:17,620 --> 02:03:19,180
All right, so we need to get a roll call

1552
02:03:19,180 --> 02:03:21,840
on the amended motion, please.

1553
02:03:23,320 --> 02:03:33,780
Yes. Mr. Bacon. Yes. Mr. Sloan. Yes. Mr. Clark. Yes. Mr. Jacobs. Yes.

1554
02:03:34,080 --> 02:03:41,080
Alderman Salvagio. Yes. Chairman McCreary. Yes. Mayor Puelezola. Yes. Thank you for that clarification.

1555
02:03:41,080 --> 02:03:43,180
I'm just quite hit.

1556
02:03:43,660 --> 02:03:48,340
Right, so now we're back to the original motion as a mandate and we're at the discussion

1557
02:03:48,340 --> 02:03:49,440
phase for that.

1558
02:03:49,440 --> 02:03:53,680
Any comments or discussions amongst our commission members?

1559
02:03:55,760 --> 02:03:56,000
Yes, sir.

1560
02:03:56,120 --> 02:03:56,640
Commissioner Clark.

1561
02:03:57,020 --> 02:04:01,860
Can we ask the applicant to come back to answer some of these questions that residents

1562
02:04:01,860 --> 02:04:02,720
brought up?

1563
02:04:03,000 --> 02:04:04,620
You have the ability to do that.

1564
02:04:05,040 --> 02:04:09,760
Well, I just want to really, we talked to the length about the traffic and understand

1565
02:04:09,760 --> 02:04:10,360
all that.

1566
02:04:10,360 --> 02:04:16,420
My questions are some of these issues they've bought up about that I'm going to wear of, you know,

1567
02:04:16,500 --> 02:04:18,120
how they're going to handle this during the during construction.

1568
02:04:18,820 --> 02:04:22,200
And maybe I know I think they said that it's a micro grounder chamber that I guess is doing

1569
02:04:22,200 --> 02:04:22,740
the construction.

1570
02:04:23,200 --> 02:04:27,040
Maybe they can talk to us about that during the during construction and how that's going to,

1571
02:04:27,080 --> 02:04:32,040
the Travis is going to applaud during that time or whoever wants to speak on that.

1572
02:04:32,400 --> 02:04:39,640
Mr. Clark, I would also add Chairman, if you could address some of the issues that were raised

1573
02:04:39,640 --> 02:04:47,100
from Miss Bolden as a next-door neighbor. Very interesting. I don't know, I guess, I would

1574
02:04:47,100 --> 02:04:52,660
ask with the new construction and some of the issues that she raised. Are you addressing

1575
02:04:52,660 --> 02:04:57,800
any of the lighting, the dumpsters, the landscape? Obviously, the drainage, coming there.

1576
02:05:02,220 --> 02:05:18,220
The dumpster, we came before this commission and put a structure around the dumpster. We did cut down scrubby trees and bushes along the fence line that Miss Poland is speaking of.

1577
02:05:18,220 --> 02:05:26,300
It's unaware that we should have gone to the city and we were given marching orders to plan a screen.

1578
02:05:26,580 --> 02:05:29,200
It was during the summer and we're going to get it.

1579
02:05:29,220 --> 02:05:30,400
Years ago, it's been here.

1580
02:05:30,600 --> 02:05:32,520
She's writing and complaining about that.

1581
02:05:32,840 --> 02:05:37,340
We're going to rectify that in the late fall early winter.

1582
02:05:37,840 --> 02:05:39,500
I had a landscape person here.

1583
02:05:39,620 --> 02:05:40,080
He's left.

1584
02:05:41,020 --> 02:05:44,420
But in the late fall early winter, we will rectify that situation.

1585
02:05:46,740 --> 02:05:54,340
the, I don't know what else, so I, the lighting, we have tried to contact MLG and W, they

1586
02:05:54,340 --> 02:06:01,640
are MLG and W is property and with no luck, now we've gotten Kimley Horn involved, our

1587
02:06:01,640 --> 02:06:07,260
engineer, so that's something we're going to be working on during the improvement.

1588
02:06:07,980 --> 02:06:14,340
But once again we tried, but didn't have the right pathway to get MLG and W to give us any

1589
02:06:14,340 --> 02:06:29,340
attention. I mean, they are, I agree with her. They are street lights. I don't know how they ended up there or whatever, but they are street lights. They do provide light in the evening. But yes, we're going to look back. We would, we would like to rectify that situation as well.

1590
02:06:30,580 --> 02:06:34,500
And now the drainage during construction for that grandeur can talk about that.

1591
02:06:37,310 --> 02:06:45,750
I'm Brett Grinder. I live in 1979. I often drive in Memphis, and I work for Grinder Tavering Grinder, and so we are slated to be the general contractor for the project.

1592
02:06:45,750 --> 02:06:51,290
We've done vote on construction, you know, for well over a decade, so we've got a long

1593
02:06:51,290 --> 02:06:56,210
good relationship with the school and, you know, handled construction traffic plans and things

1594
02:06:56,210 --> 02:06:59,270
that nature and the neighborhood, through all those projects.

1595
02:06:59,590 --> 02:07:03,890
Is it a release of this project for the detention question from Mr. Clark?

1596
02:07:04,450 --> 02:07:10,950
It has a, you know, full, a road control plan, as you would expect, the TDAC has to approve.

1597
02:07:11,950 --> 02:07:13,370
It's, you know, it is over five acres.

1598
02:07:13,370 --> 02:07:19,130
So that's, you know, that is subject to T-Dex, notice of intent, and notice of completion

1599
02:07:19,130 --> 02:07:21,070
processes if you're familiar with those.

1600
02:07:22,110 --> 02:07:28,110
And so during construction, we will follow those plans, which include, you know, silt fences

1601
02:07:28,110 --> 02:07:32,830
and waddles and drainage protection, sediment control basins, you know, all the things that

1602
02:07:32,830 --> 02:07:37,770
are included in that plan that are, you know, matter of public record and, and then it has

1603
02:07:37,770 --> 02:07:41,470
an inspection process that occurs during that entire process, you know, there's a relatively

1604
02:07:41,470 --> 02:07:45,830
frequent inspection process, particularly for high-profile projects like this, where we know

1605
02:07:45,830 --> 02:07:49,810
that there's drainage concerns with our neighbors, those inspections are very frequent

1606
02:07:49,810 --> 02:07:55,110
and we keep those inspections and records of the rainfall and things like that as we'll

1607
02:07:55,110 --> 02:08:02,470
kept on-site in a mailbox actually, which is what TDAC requires. So, you know, they're available for review.

1608
02:08:02,910 --> 02:08:09,890
And then, as it relates to the permanent operation of this campus, this is actually a vast

1609
02:08:09,890 --> 02:08:14,350
improvement to the current situation, can we more can speak a little more to this.

1610
02:08:14,450 --> 02:08:19,290
The knock-in is the engineer's record, but it is going to basically create a slow release

1611
02:08:19,290 --> 02:08:24,190
you know, detention they've calculated as my understanding, not to speak for the engineers,

1612
02:08:24,410 --> 02:08:27,150
but they've calculated an over-detention what I call an over-detention situation.

1613
02:08:28,850 --> 02:08:33,670
So, you know, the amount of outflow from this project basically will be detained at a longer

1614
02:08:33,670 --> 02:08:35,390
period of time than it's required.

1615
02:08:36,830 --> 02:08:38,030
Is that the question?

1616
02:08:40,040 --> 02:08:42,940
Sir, appreciate very much. Any other questions?

1617
02:08:43,220 --> 02:08:43,800
Yes, sir.

1618
02:08:43,920 --> 02:08:44,440
Mr. Jacobs?

1619
02:08:44,980 --> 02:08:47,700
There is one more issue that I heard, which was,

1620
02:08:48,220 --> 02:08:52,740
how is the traffic going to be planned for the school traffic during the construction phase?

1621
02:08:52,800 --> 02:08:54,180
I don't think that's been discussed.

1622
02:08:55,640 --> 02:09:01,700
Well, we're not planning on growing our population until the entire project is finished,

1623
02:09:02,840 --> 02:09:05,120
which ideally would be two to three years,

1624
02:09:05,360 --> 02:09:08,160
and so there will be no change in the traffic.

1625
02:09:08,160 --> 02:09:14,700
All of the construction vehicles will be on our site.

1626
02:09:15,060 --> 02:09:17,120
Certainly there will be traffic coming.

1627
02:09:17,260 --> 02:09:19,240
Yes, there will be a construction traffic coming and going

1628
02:09:19,240 --> 02:09:22,260
Will that not interfere with your dismissal process

1629
02:09:22,260 --> 02:09:24,020
or will you for bid construction?

1630
02:09:24,400 --> 02:09:25,080
Yes, we will.

1631
02:09:25,340 --> 02:09:27,920
Grinder Tiber Grinder will work with us

1632
02:09:27,920 --> 02:09:31,500
as to, you know, appropriate times to enter

1633
02:09:31,500 --> 02:09:36,580
and leave the campus, you know, based on our needs of a rival

1634
02:09:36,580 --> 02:09:37,380
and dismissal.

1635
02:09:37,380 --> 02:09:43,980
so that the neighbors should not expect any increase any significant change in the

1636
02:09:43,980 --> 02:09:47,880
the dismissal traffic pattern that you see now during the construction phase.

1637
02:09:48,840 --> 02:09:50,460
Yeah. Thank you. Thank you.

1638
02:09:51,580 --> 02:09:55,260
All right. Any discussions amongst our commissioners comments? Yes, sir.

1639
02:09:55,380 --> 02:09:59,960
I'm sorry. I got a little more question. Okay. Just on the the students version.

1640
02:10:00,000 --> 02:10:06,920
This is cars issue that was brought up. I know that one of the ladies that spoke such a two kids that were there, so that council, one person.

1641
02:10:08,300 --> 02:10:13,160
The 58 cars, or one of the math was versus 120 students or 140 students.

1642
02:10:13,780 --> 02:10:22,920
Those numbers came from Kinley Horne's traffic study. That's all, you know, they could, they could answer that question.

1643
02:10:23,680 --> 02:10:30,400
Mr. Murphy, did you also mention that there are numerous after-school programs so that some

1644
02:10:30,400 --> 02:10:34,560
of those students don't leave the campus until four or five, so therefore those parents

1645
02:10:34,560 --> 02:10:36,160
aren't standing in the car line?

1646
02:10:36,620 --> 02:10:42,520
Yeah, that's correct, every day, but Friday we have some type of after, well even on Friday

1647
02:10:42,520 --> 02:10:49,440
we have an after-care program, so I mentioned yesterday's amazing dismissal, well we only

1648
02:10:49,440 --> 02:10:57,500
we had 40 kids at some type of aftercare, aftercare itself,

1649
02:10:58,420 --> 02:11:01,880
it did daycare, basically, or some type of school activity.

1650
02:11:02,880 --> 02:11:08,340
So we only had 54 kids dismissing at the normal time.

1651
02:11:09,160 --> 02:11:11,120
And that's always a factor, right?

1652
02:11:11,620 --> 02:11:12,260
Thank you.

1653
02:11:13,160 --> 02:11:14,860
Any other questions, audience or questions?

1654
02:11:14,860 --> 02:11:16,080
You know, all of them so bad,

1655
02:11:18,440 --> 02:11:18,440
yeah?

1656
02:11:18,780 --> 02:11:28,180
In this in the same thread, I'd engaged staff last week and two items on a list of responses that they provided.

1657
02:11:28,260 --> 02:11:34,420
I just want to bring the light and ask applicant and staff.

1658
02:11:35,080 --> 02:11:43,940
So on the MLG&W Street voice, the information I got back was those pre-day 1998 they've been there for quite some time.

1659
02:11:43,940 --> 02:11:51,620
And there may be an opportunity to put some sort of shielding on those whites or make modifications of those whites,

1660
02:11:51,780 --> 02:11:55,320
maybe through a process with MLG and W, hold that thought.

1661
02:11:56,100 --> 02:11:58,240
And then with the dumpster enclosure,

1662
02:12:00,580 --> 02:12:05,340
that is a minor scene that the school is agreed to put

1663
02:12:05,340 --> 02:12:12,300
approximately 10 evergreen shrubs after we get out of 100 degree heat and they may actually

1664
02:12:12,300 --> 02:12:13,520
have a chance of surviving?

1665
02:12:14,840 --> 02:12:15,440
Yes.

1666
02:12:15,640 --> 02:12:16,040
That's correct.

1667
02:12:17,600 --> 02:12:25,380
So with that gentleman's agreement and board agreement is that something that could be part

1668
02:12:25,380 --> 02:12:32,760
of the down, assuming this passes, if this, if this proceeds, if that could be part of the

1669
02:12:32,760 --> 02:12:40,660
final construction agreement during the construction review process, to have those included in.

1670
02:12:41,500 --> 02:12:47,640
Mr. Selvazio, the Evergreen shrubs are already part of the past approval for the design review commission.

1671
02:12:47,840 --> 02:12:51,620
So at this point, it has been discussed with the applicant and code compliance.

1672
02:12:51,680 --> 02:12:56,100
So this is a code issue that needs to be addressed on a past approval.

1673
02:12:56,600 --> 02:13:04,960
In regard to the MLG&W Streetlight similarly, that is also a code issue that code has been working on together with Mr. Murphy.

1674
02:13:04,960 --> 02:13:11,120
I am not sure about conditioning either of those items for the development contract director Ross.

1675
02:13:11,220 --> 02:13:22,460
I think that there's opportunity to refine their lighting plan as well as their landscape plan as part of their designer view commission's middle, which is the next step in this process.

1676
02:13:22,460 --> 02:13:31,120
So as they get ready to submit those plans to the design review commission, pending approval this evening,

1677
02:13:31,340 --> 02:13:37,760
I think that they should hear what the residents are saying, but to Ms. Coraleski's point,

1678
02:13:39,640 --> 02:13:48,300
the dumpster location was approved by the Ford Zoning Appeals in September of 2022.

1679
02:13:49,780 --> 02:13:57,620
Administrative design review, approval, following that, did require 10 evergreen shrubs,

1680
02:13:59,040 --> 02:14:05,000
that planting follow-ups, slipped through the cracks, and bowed on, has recognized that,

1681
02:14:05,060 --> 02:14:08,520
and will plant those as soon as the temperatures are more cooperative.

1682
02:14:10,020 --> 02:14:17,120
They, to Mr. Murphy's point, as well as staffs, those MLGW streetlights,

1683
02:14:17,120 --> 02:14:25,080
pre-day 1998. There are no city records of when and why those were installed. There was

1684
02:14:25,080 --> 02:14:34,040
no process for approval. They are at least MLG-W Streetlights on private property. They

1685
02:14:34,040 --> 02:14:43,620
have tried working through co-compliance to find shields for those lights as well as work

1686
02:14:43,620 --> 02:14:47,600
with MLGW on replacing those light fixtures.

1687
02:14:47,880 --> 02:14:49,960
They do not make shields for the standard

1688
02:14:49,960 --> 02:14:51,580
coberhead street lights.

1689
02:14:53,120 --> 02:14:59,980
So our suggestion is that they replace the lights as a whole.

1690
02:15:00,750 --> 02:15:17,570
As previously stated, included as part of their design review commission submittal to have a full lighting plan approved with light pictures that are lower and more appropriate for their use in a residential area, institutional use.

1691
02:15:17,570 --> 02:15:23,750
Senator Sandy, these items are out of our purview, but we do have an audience who's concerned and asking a lot of questions.

1692
02:15:23,750 --> 02:15:31,270
and I want to cross a tease about the odds that it weets this conversation makes it to a

1693
02:15:31,270 --> 02:15:36,470
significant passes to DRC as part of their consideration at this part between current.

1694
02:15:36,490 --> 02:15:41,990
And staff will carry these concerns forward as we work with the applicant and they refine

1695
02:15:41,990 --> 02:15:44,910
those plans to submit to the design of the commission.

1696
02:15:45,470 --> 02:15:49,410
And Boedon would like to have more appropriate outdoor lighting as well.

1697
02:15:50,510 --> 02:15:52,190
Thank you, Commissioner Sloan, did you have something?

1698
02:15:52,190 --> 02:15:57,130
I appreciate that because I actually knocked out quite a few things but on the code violations.

1699
02:15:58,050 --> 02:16:02,370
So once they're done with construction and they're wrapping up for their use in occupancy permits.

1700
02:16:03,010 --> 02:16:10,230
Do we not have a path of making sure all code violations have been cleared before they get their final occupancy?

1701
02:16:10,450 --> 02:16:20,990
On larger construction projects but with a dumpster enclosure it was simply a permit that was approved through the Shelby County permit system.

1702
02:16:20,990 --> 02:16:26,690
And again, those landscape shrubs slipped through the cracks.

1703
02:16:27,250 --> 02:16:30,070
I'm sorry, but I'm referring to go forward.

1704
02:16:30,450 --> 02:16:37,310
To go forward, absolutely there is a construction plan review and use and occupancy review.

1705
02:16:37,430 --> 02:16:45,090
Initial acceptance and final acceptance where all of these items will be reviewed as a collective both on engineering,

1706
02:16:45,090 --> 02:16:52,290
construction staff as well as planning staff review before levels of use and occupancy

1707
02:16:52,290 --> 02:16:53,690
or permitted on the building.

1708
02:16:54,370 --> 02:16:55,490
Thank you.

1709
02:16:55,590 --> 02:16:55,730
All right.

1710
02:16:56,050 --> 02:16:56,470
Thank you.

1711
02:16:56,730 --> 02:16:58,870
Any other questions concerns?

1712
02:16:59,950 --> 02:17:00,950
All right.

1713
02:17:01,090 --> 02:17:03,430
Ms. Seneca, I think we're ready for a roll call vote, please.

1714
02:17:06,130 --> 02:17:06,730
Ms. Syssen?

1715
02:17:14,660 --> 02:17:18,160
I want to echo what the Chairman mentioned.

1716
02:17:18,380 --> 02:17:22,220
I appreciate everybody's time tonight listening to all these concerns as we flesh out

1717
02:17:22,220 --> 02:17:29,660
all of these issues, I do think that we can all agree that Bowdoin is got a wonderful mission

1718
02:17:29,660 --> 02:17:36,620
and provides a great service to our community and is certainly important to its students,

1719
02:17:37,600 --> 02:17:42,040
their parents and grandparents and the aunts and uncles and cousins and future employers.

1720
02:17:44,780 --> 02:17:59,100
I noticed as they went through the staff's report that that vote on has met the standards set forth in our ordinances for the tree plan, there's no variances requested, there's owning standards,

1721
02:18:01,620 --> 02:18:09,180
I have, from listening this, it seems that in its current state there is a traffic and safety problem.

1722
02:18:09,180 --> 02:18:16,560
And this is a plan proposed to bring a lot of those cards off of the street.

1723
02:18:17,620 --> 02:18:27,540
So I see this as a positive situation not only for the school, but to address those concerns.

1724
02:18:28,100 --> 02:18:28,680
So I will vote.

1725
02:18:29,520 --> 02:18:30,000
Yes.

1726
02:18:30,220 --> 02:18:34,400
Just to remind her to the commission, as Mrs. Sissended, she stated her reasonings,

1727
02:18:34,540 --> 02:18:38,760
her findings, as related to the conditional use permit, we have those up there on the screen.

1728
02:18:38,760 --> 02:18:40,860
So please be sure to hit on one of those,

1729
02:18:40,980 --> 02:18:44,060
how the project either does or does not meet them.

1730
02:18:47,190 --> 02:18:49,290
Do you miss Gaurlowski, Mr. Bacon?

1731
02:18:51,670 --> 02:18:54,490
I have struggled with this.

1732
02:18:54,490 --> 02:18:55,510
I used to live in the neighborhood.

1733
02:18:55,810 --> 02:18:57,610
I lived in the neighborhood for 16 years.

1734
02:18:57,870 --> 02:19:01,590
I'm very sympathetic to the traffic issues.

1735
02:19:02,050 --> 02:19:06,990
But I'm also sympathetic to an interesting, great neighbor

1736
02:19:06,990 --> 02:19:12,010
vote on school and I want to echo commissioner assistance comments.

1737
02:19:12,230 --> 02:19:13,410
Thank you all for coming.

1738
02:19:13,750 --> 02:19:19,370
This is a reflection of a great process with community participation.

1739
02:19:20,610 --> 02:19:27,110
I don't, I'm going to say that I don't think that I would have supported the expansion

1740
02:19:27,110 --> 02:19:32,050
if the traffic was addressed in the way that it is.

1741
02:19:32,050 --> 02:19:41,310
But it was Mr. Eulorn that made the comment about taking the traffic off the street and putting the traffic on the site where it belongs.

1742
02:19:41,710 --> 02:19:48,670
Unfortunately, at five and a half acres, whatever the total acreage was, you can't get all of the traffic off the street.

1743
02:19:49,330 --> 02:19:59,770
But as it was stated from the traffic study, it will go from a condition that, I think, most of the degrees untenable to plus and minus 15.

1744
02:19:59,770 --> 02:19:59,970
Thank you.

1745
02:20:00,590 --> 02:20:08,370
Out on the street, which is not that many. I'd just like to go on record and say, I think it

1746
02:20:08,370 --> 02:20:15,510
were comments that were made in the sketch plan meeting about an intent to instruct the use

1747
02:20:15,510 --> 02:20:22,130
of windy oaks as an outlet to the parents. I would strongly discourage that. I think it was

1748
02:20:22,130 --> 02:20:28,330
a comment made about the size of windy oaks in the lack of sidewalks and I think it would be

1749
02:20:28,330 --> 02:20:35,850
exceptionally dangerous to take additional traffic on the windy oaks, but I'm going to vote.

1750
02:20:36,450 --> 02:20:42,330
Yes, I think the mission statement is pretty wonderful with vote on and I think the plan

1751
02:20:42,330 --> 02:20:51,830
supports an address to an existing traffic condition that doesn't fairly successfully.

1752
02:20:53,170 --> 02:20:55,090
Thank you, Mr. Sloan.

1753
02:20:56,070 --> 02:21:00,790
So for as much as we appreciate everyone's attendance, it obviously makes our job extremely hard.

1754
02:21:01,370 --> 02:21:08,190
But we do appreciate everybody being here, especially with my previous commissioners have said on the reasons why they have voted yes.

1755
02:21:09,230 --> 02:21:11,210
I too will be voting yes.

1756
02:21:13,450 --> 02:21:17,130
I'm sympathetic for some of the neighbors that have been affected by the traffic.

1757
02:21:17,630 --> 02:21:23,310
I think the school is doing a good job of again reversing that traffic flow.

1758
02:21:23,310 --> 02:21:36,730
you know, understand with the 58 cars at a time, that's a fluid number, obviously it's not all 58 cars, they're showing up at the exact same time, everybody's not leaving at the same time.

1759
02:21:37,030 --> 02:21:42,950
So having cars coming on and off the lot is going to even further mitigate those problems.

1760
02:21:45,070 --> 02:21:51,670
And I also think, and I don't mean for this to sound spicy at all, but

1761
02:21:51,670 --> 02:21:57,630
boat on school being there, someone said it earlier, from an overall neighborhood perspective,

1762
02:21:58,210 --> 02:21:59,590
is a wonderful thing.

1763
02:22:00,130 --> 02:22:04,910
We have applications constantly with people coming in to build neighborhoods and wanting to

1764
02:22:04,910 --> 02:22:11,190
add more and more residential lots, and we have even more people showing up to oppose those

1765
02:22:11,190 --> 02:22:18,250
development. So someone said it earlier, I think, bow down school being here in what they're

1766
02:22:18,250 --> 02:22:24,710
doing is really what's best for the neighborhood and the current conditions. So for that

1767
02:22:24,710 --> 02:22:26,990
reason I'll be putting yes.

1768
02:22:27,610 --> 02:22:28,110
Mr. Clark?

1769
02:22:30,860 --> 02:22:34,580
One of the things we're tasked to look at is whether it has an adverse effect on the neighborhood

1770
02:22:35,440 --> 02:22:41,280
and from all of the numbers that I've looked at and it has been presented in Mr. Yohorn

1771
02:22:41,280 --> 02:22:45,400
stated, we're taking traffic off the neighborhood and putting it on site.

1772
02:22:45,940 --> 02:22:51,640
I look at the current parking situation at 33 proposed to be 66 on site.

1773
02:22:52,160 --> 02:22:57,340
The queueing is currently at 6, the queueing will go to 43 on site.

1774
02:22:58,520 --> 02:23:04,080
Cueing of 35 on the road would now be only 15 cars on the road at max capacity.

1775
02:23:05,280 --> 02:23:10,080
So looking at all those things and what my fellow commissioners have said in the past,

1776
02:23:10,080 --> 02:23:16,480
about this. I too will be voting yes. I think that Bowdown School is a great use for this area.

1777
02:23:17,820 --> 02:23:23,140
I am a residential home voter, so yes, I would love to see this be a dense population of homes in there.

1778
02:23:23,220 --> 02:23:28,080
Be a great location, but, you know, this has been a long staple for Germantown.

1779
02:23:29,080 --> 02:23:33,840
Bowdown School has been and I think expansion of it and getting the traffic.

1780
02:23:33,880 --> 02:23:36,600
The main thing is I think they've done a great job just getting the traffic off the street,

1781
02:23:36,600 --> 02:23:37,960
whether they're doing an expansion or not.

1782
02:23:38,100 --> 02:23:41,040
I think that's doing a great job of being a good neighbor,

1783
02:23:41,320 --> 02:23:42,440
so I'll be voting yes.

1784
02:23:44,540 --> 02:23:45,100
Mr. Jacobs?

1785
02:23:46,520 --> 02:23:50,880
This has been an interesting process for me.

1786
02:23:51,560 --> 02:23:53,820
I am a 40-year resident in the Shelby North.

1787
02:23:54,560 --> 02:23:58,260
I have watched QE in Riverdale School for all those years

1788
02:23:58,260 --> 02:23:59,620
when my kids were in school.

1789
02:24:00,480 --> 02:24:02,120
I know what it's about.

1790
02:24:03,680 --> 02:24:06,620
I am not had any personal contact

1791
02:24:06,620 --> 02:24:12,740
been blessed not to have personal contact with Bodine School for education reasons.

1792
02:24:13,760 --> 02:24:17,780
But I have heard nothing but good things from the day I moved into German town about

1793
02:24:17,780 --> 02:24:18,720
Bodine School.

1794
02:24:19,600 --> 02:24:26,160
And I read through the application several times and realized that the one issue that I had

1795
02:24:26,160 --> 02:24:28,380
to see for myself was a traffic situation.

1796
02:24:29,020 --> 02:24:33,380
Now the engineer in me said it's going to do nothing but improve with this plan.

1797
02:24:33,380 --> 02:24:42,120
But I went over yesterday and today and watched the dismissal process and I'll tell you today it was over by 3.5 by 3.12.

1798
02:24:42,400 --> 02:24:45,740
I looked at my watch while I was walking back to my car. Everyone's gone.

1799
02:24:46,640 --> 02:24:49,600
Yesterday, it was equally as fast or maybe faster.

1800
02:24:50,760 --> 02:24:52,100
It was the most

1801
02:24:54,120 --> 02:24:57,060
fluid flowing process, no problems whatsoever.

1802
02:24:57,060 --> 02:24:59,980
I-I-I-I-I-I.

1803
02:25:00,000 --> 02:25:08,740
I couldn't envision anything better, except that it's got to get better from what the plan is to move, although

1804
02:25:08,740 --> 02:25:16,380
cars that have been, most of the cars that have been queuing to the school grounds. So, I don't

1805
02:25:16,380 --> 02:25:23,660
see anything but a benefit to the city and the school and the neighbors with this application going

1806
02:25:23,660 --> 02:25:28,580
forward. All of the comments that my fellow commissioners have made, I agree with totally, I think

1807
02:25:28,580 --> 02:25:30,740
This is a great asset for the city.

1808
02:25:31,060 --> 02:25:33,640
I think we need to fully support the mission of the school.

1809
02:25:34,040 --> 02:25:38,280
And I think that people that I met from the school now

1810
02:25:38,280 --> 02:25:41,580
give me the impression that they want to work with the neighbors

1811
02:25:41,580 --> 02:25:43,320
as much as they can.

1812
02:25:44,120 --> 02:25:48,520
And I think it's a great process for us to approve.

1813
02:25:49,360 --> 02:25:51,240
So I am voting yes.

1814
02:25:52,240 --> 02:25:53,280
Alderman Selvagio.

1815
02:25:54,100 --> 02:25:56,140
Thank you.

1816
02:25:56,140 --> 02:26:24,120
Like the I think all the families who came out, I've been on commissions for quite a few years and I was along with some of the members, but I think this was the most equal pro and coincide to a conversation I've seen in the long term, and grateful to both on long history with Germantown, you know, per the the list behind me, we're, we're charged to make sure that we can can justify these items.

1817
02:26:25,620 --> 02:26:33,000
This board makes decisions based on compliance and regulations and data, but citizen involvement

1818
02:26:33,000 --> 02:26:34,560
is critical.

1819
02:26:36,100 --> 02:26:43,940
We've got great citizen involvement in this, probably on, as a commissioner, and I'm a fellow

1820
02:26:43,940 --> 02:26:45,880
commissioners, did the same thing.

1821
02:26:45,940 --> 02:26:46,800
We get these questions.

1822
02:26:47,060 --> 02:26:52,160
We ask staff more questions, and it allows us to really check the boxes.

1823
02:26:52,160 --> 02:26:59,080
I do want to hit a few bullet points for real quick where I think Baudin has met this

1824
02:26:59,080 --> 02:27:04,120
list behind those application needs, all of the bulk requirements without exceptions.

1825
02:27:04,120 --> 02:27:14,360
The application has a minimal acreage compliance compliance with enrollment caps and that has been

1826
02:27:14,360 --> 02:27:18,800
addressed even further tonight through the foggier period and henceforth.

1827
02:27:18,800 --> 02:27:21,920
No variances were requested at granted, no reduction,

1828
02:27:22,180 --> 02:27:23,380
or requested in tree mitigation.

1829
02:27:24,440 --> 02:27:26,640
Arbor's report is complete and complaus

1830
02:27:26,640 --> 02:27:28,920
with the primary tree plan.

1831
02:27:29,800 --> 02:27:32,120
16 trees for acre compliance was met,

1832
02:27:32,220 --> 02:27:36,660
and retaining 21 trees of the end point of fact, 51.

1833
02:27:37,420 --> 02:27:38,940
You know, as far as the drainage concerns,

1834
02:27:39,880 --> 02:27:41,800
drainage is always a concern in Georgetown,

1835
02:27:42,060 --> 02:27:44,420
with topography and pre-existing conditions.

1836
02:27:45,280 --> 02:27:47,820
But, you know, it's important to note that

1837
02:27:47,820 --> 02:27:54,680
We have a stellar engineering department, and I'm convinced that director Alan and her team

1838
02:27:56,040 --> 02:28:08,300
will make sure that the drainage is correct, and that is re-reviewed when it gets through

1839
02:28:08,300 --> 02:28:12,720
the next processes before it goes to a final contract.

1840
02:28:12,720 --> 02:28:26,680
So this isn't the one and only look, there will make recommendations and if the school does not comply with those recommendations to mitigate water run off the project will not move forward.

1841
02:28:28,880 --> 02:28:37,180
The queueing drop-off from 30,000 to 15, we've seen the data again, the stacking makes

1842
02:28:37,180 --> 02:28:37,880
sounds.

1843
02:28:38,880 --> 02:28:47,180
And final point, I appreciate African Murphy making the public comment on record with

1844
02:28:47,180 --> 02:28:52,500
the board in the citizens that they agree to try to help re-educate the drivers, take

1845
02:28:52,500 --> 02:28:56,520
this opportunity if this project does move forward, which looks like it is.

1846
02:28:56,520 --> 02:29:08,060
to always consider mitigating the burden and listening to the neighbors and helping alleviate the challenges they have living in that neighborhood.

1847
02:29:08,240 --> 02:29:09,080
Thank you.

1848
02:29:09,140 --> 02:29:10,420
I'll be voting yes.

1849
02:29:12,420 --> 02:29:13,260
Chair McMurray.

1850
02:29:14,820 --> 02:29:15,400
Thank you.

1851
02:29:16,460 --> 02:29:19,600
So important to point out that this is a process non-event.

1852
02:29:20,860 --> 02:29:22,600
Tonight is planning commission.

1853
02:29:23,060 --> 02:29:27,400
There are other steps that need to be taken to go through the design review commission.

1854
02:29:27,400 --> 02:29:31,380
I think Mr. Bolden has been involved in that process before, with some other things that

1855
02:29:31,380 --> 02:29:32,320
have come from Bowdoin School.

1856
02:29:32,940 --> 02:29:36,380
So there are opportunities to deal with this at that point in time.

1857
02:29:38,820 --> 02:29:43,120
We also have a situation where you have to go through the development process and development

1858
02:29:43,120 --> 02:29:46,760
contract and the engineering department.

1859
02:29:47,200 --> 02:29:55,640
And I have full confidence that our engineer, director Allen, will be on top of her game on

1860
02:29:55,640 --> 02:29:56,640
this regarding drainage.

1861
02:29:56,640 --> 02:29:59,960
Now, with without bow time, red buff.

1862
02:30:01,960 --> 02:30:18,440
If we don't do anything, then I don't approve it. Redblood still a problem. And there is a big macro project as part of the overall drainage projects throughout Germantown with many that are underway and you can get information to some staff, but as we're spoken to earlier, those are being addressed.

1863
02:30:18,440 --> 02:30:25,200
I think the detention basin, I put in a bunch of them and they seem to help and I think

1864
02:30:25,200 --> 02:30:32,480
the detention basin is only going to help put the drainage in a much better position to

1865
02:30:32,480 --> 02:30:39,060
have the macro project help you guys as neighbors so I think they're doing what they need

1866
02:30:39,060 --> 02:30:42,760
to do to be a partner in the drainage along with the city and a public private partnership

1867
02:30:42,760 --> 02:30:47,280
and hopefully the city will get that part right on red bud as they move forward.

1868
02:30:48,740 --> 02:30:50,780
traffic, everybody's stated it's going to be better.

1869
02:30:51,080 --> 02:30:52,700
I think I've definitely agree with that.

1870
02:30:52,780 --> 02:30:54,240
I think the queueing will be less.

1871
02:30:55,400 --> 02:30:58,760
The collector road, whether you believe it exists, it doesn't exist.

1872
02:30:58,960 --> 02:31:03,520
Whatever the case may be, the fact is, it is a collector form and it is big enough to handle

1873
02:31:04,100 --> 02:31:04,580
this.

1874
02:31:04,620 --> 02:31:06,100
It would be without question.

1875
02:31:06,260 --> 02:31:09,660
I would not approve this if this was on a little too lane road or something like

1876
02:31:09,660 --> 02:31:14,100
Wendy Oaks at the street, if the school is on that street, that just you couldn't survive

1877
02:31:14,100 --> 02:31:15,100
with that.

1878
02:31:15,100 --> 02:31:18,180
And, you know, Bowdoin was originated in 1972.

1879
02:31:18,960 --> 02:31:25,060
I don't know who in this room lived in their house prior to 1972 in that area, but it was

1880
02:31:25,060 --> 02:31:26,160
annexed in 1976.

1881
02:31:27,040 --> 02:31:28,460
We all kind of inherited Bowdoin.

1882
02:31:29,200 --> 02:31:32,220
So the city inherited Bowdoin as well as you guys as neighbors.

1883
02:31:32,740 --> 02:31:36,440
I got on land by the last couple of days and looked at several neighbors throughout the

1884
02:31:36,440 --> 02:31:40,640
whole concentric circle, and you know, it is true like Mr. Bowdoin's been there since

1885
02:31:41,400 --> 02:31:45,660
I believe there's a lot of never has been there since the 90s, but there's also some removed in in the

1886
02:31:45,660 --> 02:31:48,240
2000s, 2008, 2010.

1887
02:31:48,820 --> 02:31:52,700
You know what you're moving into when you move in and boat on school is there.

1888
02:31:53,320 --> 02:31:56,500
You know, when you live by railroad tracks, I live in an entry farm for a while.

1889
02:31:56,740 --> 02:32:01,140
If my wife didn't leave by 230 to go to get Carpool, early Carpool.

1890
02:32:02,180 --> 02:32:05,140
She was stuck at the railroad tracks. That train comes to its will at 230.

1891
02:32:06,000 --> 02:32:10,040
She modified her behavior. She knew to leave a little bit earlier to avoid that train,

1892
02:32:10,040 --> 02:32:13,040
as she gets to the corporate line to get our kids on time.

1893
02:32:13,800 --> 02:32:16,560
If you live by a noon siren, that's no fun.

1894
02:32:16,660 --> 02:32:17,940
You can't be on the phone in your backyard

1895
02:32:17,940 --> 02:32:18,960
during the noon siren.

1896
02:32:19,880 --> 02:32:22,580
If you live by a high school, mayor lives by high school,

1897
02:32:23,240 --> 02:32:26,240
the track, look at the more road, the high school

1898
02:32:26,240 --> 02:32:29,880
with the band and football traffic and all that.

1899
02:32:29,980 --> 02:32:32,300
I mean, the impacts around our city to me

1900
02:32:32,300 --> 02:32:34,920
are far greater than this particular one.

1901
02:32:34,920 --> 02:32:38,820
This is 15 to 40 minutes in the morning, 15 to 40 minutes

1902
02:32:38,820 --> 02:32:43,620
in the afternoon, this stuff around Houston High School, you want to see a problem, go to Houston

1903
02:32:43,620 --> 02:32:46,380
Middle School and go into Dogwood, the state's on gotten way.

1904
02:32:47,080 --> 02:32:50,860
It isn't, it's a free fall, this is doing a great job trying to corral that and get a fence

1905
02:32:50,860 --> 02:32:51,760
around it.

1906
02:32:51,940 --> 02:32:56,800
But there's so many kids, so much traffic, the core pooling goes to concentric streets away

1907
02:32:56,800 --> 02:33:01,580
from the school, kids coming and going everywhere, and I think Bowdoin does a good job

1908
02:33:01,580 --> 02:33:04,300
as anybody when you talk about impact to the neighbors.

1909
02:33:05,680 --> 02:33:12,300
Same thing with Riverdale Elementary, Miller Farms, it cues all the way up to Farmington and they manage that pretty well.

1910
02:33:14,220 --> 02:33:19,560
You know, giving a little grace for achievement, I think it's important, I think we all work together as neighbors in Germantown,

1911
02:33:20,180 --> 02:33:26,620
and I think the impact at Bowdoin School has versus the impact on the neighbors that are affected,

1912
02:33:26,620 --> 02:33:35,540
It seems to the positive, seems outweigh the negative for me, especially since the negative has been around since even the latest upgrade was 1996.

1913
02:33:36,640 --> 02:33:37,820
I mean, that's a long time ago.

1914
02:33:38,760 --> 02:33:40,520
And it's been this way for quite some time.

1915
02:33:40,600 --> 02:33:44,260
So I think these improvements are going to be very important going forward.

1916
02:33:44,360 --> 02:33:46,080
I think you've got a good team.

1917
02:33:47,620 --> 02:33:49,960
You've got local guys in Todd Walker.

1918
02:33:50,100 --> 02:33:55,660
I don't think he's going to jeopardize doing something incorrectly to affect the neighbors and his design work.

1919
02:33:55,660 --> 02:33:57,340
because you've got to come back here.

1920
02:33:57,740 --> 02:34:00,720
Certainly, the grinders, as he said, decades worth of work

1921
02:34:00,720 --> 02:34:03,660
in our city, I don't know that I've ever heard

1922
02:34:03,660 --> 02:34:05,020
a bad word about them, actually.

1923
02:34:05,940 --> 02:34:07,520
You're a pretty good job across the board.

1924
02:34:08,440 --> 02:34:10,200
They're not in the news with buildings falling down.

1925
02:34:10,360 --> 02:34:10,940
So that's a good thing.

1926
02:34:12,080 --> 02:34:15,620
But they do a good job and they are conscious of their neighbors.

1927
02:34:15,680 --> 02:34:17,620
And that's what it takes to be a good general contractor

1928
02:34:17,620 --> 02:34:18,380
in this city.

1929
02:34:18,840 --> 02:34:21,780
So I plan on supporting the application wholeheartedly.

1930
02:34:22,980 --> 02:34:25,100
Again, there is additional steps in the process

1931
02:34:25,100 --> 02:34:29,920
that people can go to, and one final note, we battle up here about this

1932
02:34:29,920 --> 02:34:34,160
tree mitigation. You would not believe. We spent hours on tree mitigation.

1933
02:34:34,820 --> 02:34:39,280
My hats off to Bowdown School and the presentation you made here, textbook.

1934
02:34:40,060 --> 02:34:44,520
Textbook and getting your arborist, getting your numbers together, putting your

1935
02:34:44,520 --> 02:34:48,820
plan together on the tree mitigation, finding out what your numbers were, figuring out

1936
02:34:48,820 --> 02:34:52,000
what you're going to plant, what you're going to mitigate, and what the calculation is

1937
02:34:52,000 --> 02:34:59,620
I think I was a 10-minute review by most anybody that looked at it and that's never happened in a long, long time, so thank you for that.

1938
02:35:00,000 --> 02:35:04,460
For all those reasons, I plan on voting, yes. Mayor Palazelo.

1939
02:35:05,340 --> 02:35:10,520
It's always nice to have the last word. And that word is yes.

1940
02:35:11,400 --> 02:35:12,100
Motion carries.

1941
02:35:13,360 --> 02:35:18,380
All right. Thank you very much. That is it. For item number 6A, we need to move on to number 7.

1942
02:35:18,600 --> 02:35:22,140
Actually, we'll take just a minute if you guys, if anybody, you're welcome to stay and wants to rest

1943
02:35:22,140 --> 02:35:28,420
this sausage be made. But if you want to take just a minute to leave, you can.

1944
02:35:28,420 --> 02:35:34,040
And then we'll move on to item number seven, although I think director Ross, you kind of covered this in an earlier presentation.

1945
02:35:35,020 --> 02:35:37,480
Do we need to stay on item seven A?

1946
02:35:38,280 --> 02:35:40,800
No, Sarah, I think we can move to eight.

1947
02:35:41,360 --> 02:35:43,080
All right. We're going to move to number eight A.

1948
02:35:43,680 --> 02:35:50,120
Any citizens here today that wish to speak on an item that was not germane to our agenda today?

1949
02:35:50,520 --> 02:35:53,440
Any other items, anything that need to be brought up?

1950
02:35:53,520 --> 02:35:56,240
Anybody wish to speak on an item not on today's agenda?

1951
02:35:57,560 --> 02:36:02,840
All right, we're now moving on to item number nine, which is our commission liaison reports.

1952
02:36:02,960 --> 02:36:04,580
Do any of our commissioners have a report?

1953
02:36:05,040 --> 02:36:08,960
Board of Zoning to bills has not met last month, so I do not have a report.

1954
02:36:09,900 --> 02:36:12,880
Anybody else have a report from their particular commissions?

1955
02:36:13,220 --> 02:36:17,120
I've got an excellent update from Parks and Rec on August 11th.

1956
02:36:17,120 --> 02:36:23,960
We had the honor of dedicating the Riverdale Part to Will Drinnen.

1957
02:36:24,600 --> 02:36:26,340
It's now Will Drennan Field.

1958
02:36:26,980 --> 02:36:31,480
It was an awesome ceremony parks and wrecked with way above and beyond.

1959
02:36:31,500 --> 02:36:33,060
It was more than I could have ever expected.

1960
02:36:34,140 --> 02:36:43,600
And I just appreciate the work and the effort that the mayor, Mary and Gibson, Mr.

1961
02:36:43,740 --> 02:36:48,880
Sove as well, there was just so many people that came out and honored the life and legacy

1962
02:36:48,880 --> 02:36:49,800
of Will Drennan.

1963
02:36:50,040 --> 02:36:53,860
It means a lot to me and my family and all of his friends and family that were there that

1964
02:36:53,860 --> 02:36:55,400
So it was pretty awesome.

1965
02:36:55,920 --> 02:36:56,820
Thank you, thank you.

1966
02:36:56,920 --> 02:36:58,160
Any other commissioner reports?

1967
02:36:58,560 --> 02:37:00,200
Just going to update on transportation.

1968
02:37:00,860 --> 02:37:05,180
We are currently working on an e-bike policy for the city to present to the BMA.

1969
02:37:05,740 --> 02:37:11,500
And we're taking our time and being cautious as we present that given light of our

1970
02:37:11,500 --> 02:37:14,020
neighbors that have had a little push back on their e-bike policy.

1971
02:37:14,700 --> 02:37:16,420
So that we forthcoming to the BMA.

1972
02:37:18,280 --> 02:37:19,000
All right, thank you for that.

1973
02:37:19,340 --> 02:37:20,580
And thank you for your indulgence.

1974
02:37:20,580 --> 02:37:25,520
it's a little unusual tonight what happened when we got to our discussion phase that we called

1975
02:37:25,520 --> 02:37:31,260
on the applicant from a some additional information. But I think that was important because

1976
02:37:31,260 --> 02:37:37,200
it was as from the time put in by the people that came to spoke that spoke that citizens

1977
02:37:37,200 --> 02:37:41,000
be heard. So we don't often have that, we don't know if we can revert back to the applicants.

1978
02:37:41,520 --> 02:37:45,860
And I think that was an important exercise for us and so I appreciate everybody's indulgence

1979
02:37:45,860 --> 02:37:49,060
on allowing that to happen and going back and doing that.

1980
02:37:49,060 --> 02:37:54,180
If there's nothing else, well Mr. Chairman, I'd like to just say that you do a masterful job.

1981
02:37:54,380 --> 02:37:54,860
So thank you.

1982
02:37:55,220 --> 02:37:56,220
Thank you.

1983
02:37:56,260 --> 02:37:58,360
All right, we stand adjourned.

1984
02:37:59,940 --> 02:38:00,020
Was that?