1 00:00:00,980 --> 00:00:01,560 All 2 00:00:06,520 --> 00:00:17,240 right, so we'll call the meeting to order, the Big Harbor Arts Commission, and why don't we start out with a roll call, and I will leave it off. 3 00:00:17,660 --> 00:00:21,560 Sonia Johnson, chairman, Deborah Vrenman, commissioner. 4 00:00:22,660 --> 00:00:24,060 Suzanne Gilman, commissioner. 5 00:00:34,820 --> 00:00:47,220 And then if everyone had a chance to take a look at the minutes of our last meeting and I think that was our creative endeavor, yes, meeting, can we have a motion to approve the minutes for that meeting? 6 00:00:54,380 --> 00:00:59,020 This morning we have two new commissioners who you have joined us. 7 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:05,440 So, you know, unfortunately under tragic circumstances, but now we have these two new commissioners, 8 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,020 so I think are going to be a real nice addition to our group. 9 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:14,420 We have Robin Avmi, and Robin was previously on our Arts Commission. 10 00:01:14,420 --> 00:01:17,660 She was also on the State of Washington Arts Commission. 11 00:01:18,480 --> 00:01:21,060 She's an author and an artist. 12 00:01:21,420 --> 00:01:24,280 And she's currently the president of the municipal art group. 13 00:01:25,100 --> 00:01:28,140 And then we have Nora Eckstein. 14 00:01:30,420 --> 00:01:34,220 And Nora somewhat recently moved here from California. 15 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,220 And she is very active in the performance. 16 00:01:38,060 --> 00:01:40,680 So she's an acting coach and a teacher. 17 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:46,640 and she's taught at Tom Taylor YMCA and I know you actively teach in the Los 18 00:01:46,640 --> 00:01:51,360 Angeles area. So we have the visual arts and performing arts, so I think that's 19 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:56,760 going to be a really nice addition to our group. So welcome to both of you. 20 00:01:56,980 --> 00:01:59,280 Thank you. Glad to be back. 21 00:02:02,940 --> 00:02:07,380 So we don't have much of an agenda today, not a lot 22 00:02:07,380 --> 00:02:13,820 to talk about, but one of the things is our Harbor-Arbor Art Project. And I don't know, typically 23 00:02:13,820 --> 00:02:18,840 if you've got any updates as to any applications that we may have got, we have not received any 24 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:24,720 applications. But we did get that email yesterday. Yeah, did you get the email from the email? 25 00:02:25,260 --> 00:02:32,000 Right. Yeah, right. So Lynn used to be in charge of the Harbor Art. I mean, 26 00:02:32,020 --> 00:02:36,660 she was a member of the commission, but that was her project. And she did a great job with it. 27 00:02:36,660 --> 00:02:42,140 and she was always out there actively, like, you know, in the forest, looking for snags and 28 00:02:42,140 --> 00:02:48,140 meeting with the artist. And so she, and did you get a copy of her email too? Yeah. So, you know, 29 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:53,680 she had some, not even concerns, but some things that she kind of wanted to bring up with us and 30 00:02:53,680 --> 00:02:59,940 saying that, you know, this artist that we had was a really good carver. And I think the problem 31 00:02:59,940 --> 00:03:04,220 with it, though, if I remember correctly, it wasn't that, it wasn't even the fact that 32 00:03:04,220 --> 00:03:08,720 he wanted to do the art in his studio, I think that would have been fine. But it was 33 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:14,100 the process then of getting the city's public works department involved. And it was like 34 00:03:14,100 --> 00:03:19,940 using a crane and machinery and all that kind of thing. And they just couldn't dedicate 35 00:03:19,940 --> 00:03:25,740 that time and machinery to it. Because it's like if this gentleman had some way that 36 00:03:25,740 --> 00:03:30,840 he could do something that didn't require that huge installation, and you know, Carolyn, 37 00:03:30,840 --> 00:03:35,740 I know you've kind of taken this on as your project, but I think that would be great to 38 00:03:35,740 --> 00:03:39,740 be able to use him if it could be something that didn't lead to that installation. 39 00:03:40,380 --> 00:03:46,620 Right. My, well, not having the information that we didn't get any 40 00:03:48,420 --> 00:03:54,540 applicants to do similar snags, my initial thought when I read her email was, 41 00:03:54,540 --> 00:03:55,260 was that bad for how? 42 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,360 When we first discussed the project most recently, 43 00:04:01,780 --> 00:04:04,500 we thought we were talking about getting 44 00:04:04,500 --> 00:04:08,440 some more snags carved and things like that, 45 00:04:08,540 --> 00:04:12,640 and then creating a QR code and placing 46 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:15,640 into the different entrances so people could go and kind of 47 00:04:15,640 --> 00:04:17,100 find the different snags. 48 00:04:17,280 --> 00:04:18,720 And I thought that was such a great idea. 49 00:04:19,220 --> 00:04:23,500 The thought of putting all this other art in there 50 00:04:23,500 --> 00:04:30,740 kind of, in my opinion, kind of took away from what a cool caravan forest would look like, you know. 51 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:36,100 They talked about mosaics and something else, and I was trying to find out how does that work with bullet. 52 00:04:36,940 --> 00:04:43,020 Right. And when I was originally looking for other parks, because originally we thought, 53 00:04:43,140 --> 00:04:47,060 maybe we'll do this all over the city, all these snags all over the city and how cool it would be, 54 00:04:47,060 --> 00:04:55,140 me. The other parts of the city really did lend themselves to, they didn't have the larger 55 00:04:55,140 --> 00:05:02,800 pieces of stags that we have in the brand new. So, I thought, well, if they wanted to 56 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:07,640 do something, we wanted to do something more upon a lot, looking like what she, whoops, 57 00:05:08,660 --> 00:05:11,840 My mom's talking to me about it, but it was a nice house for me. 58 00:05:14,980 --> 00:05:22,540 You know, maybe we could look at that for other parts, you know, doing other art that would 59 00:05:22,540 --> 00:05:24,880 be more viable for that kind of art. 60 00:05:25,000 --> 00:05:31,200 I just think kind of putting a bunch of other art pieces in grand view, just kind of, I 61 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:32,180 don't know, kind of... 62 00:05:33,300 --> 00:05:35,240 What's already there in this art? 63 00:05:35,500 --> 00:05:35,680 Yeah. 64 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,740 I don't know. That's just my opinion. Long winded opinion. 65 00:05:39,560 --> 00:05:49,420 Well, you know, I took a look at our call for ArtTube because I thought maybe we need to expand the definition or expand what we're looking for. 66 00:05:49,680 --> 00:06:00,840 But it doesn't just say carving. It does say embellishment. And so I think it is a little bit more open-ended because I just wanted to make sure it didn't just say that we were looking for wood carvings. 67 00:06:00,840 --> 00:06:04,280 But even, you know, maybe not a mosaic, 68 00:06:04,540 --> 00:06:06,160 but even if there were some truck in somebody, 69 00:06:06,580 --> 00:06:09,700 you could nail something on it or do something. 70 00:06:09,940 --> 00:06:13,580 I mean, I could see how you could have some sort of art 71 00:06:13,580 --> 00:06:18,860 still on the tree snail without being, you know, 72 00:06:18,900 --> 00:06:21,240 not true to the character of the service. 73 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:25,060 Besides the gigabyte, is this call for artists 74 00:06:25,060 --> 00:06:26,740 raised to anyone or else? 75 00:06:27,380 --> 00:06:28,920 Well, it was on the city's website 76 00:06:28,920 --> 00:06:32,460 And then it was promoted in social media in the gigabyte punk. 77 00:06:33,560 --> 00:06:35,080 Should I make a suggestion? 78 00:06:35,380 --> 00:06:42,360 We could promote the arts, the state arts commission would promote it as a potential project. 79 00:06:42,600 --> 00:06:45,360 I think it would give them this. They put it on their social media. 80 00:06:45,600 --> 00:06:49,260 I think if we gave them a social media post. 81 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:51,840 Does it have to be a gig hard? 82 00:06:52,100 --> 00:06:52,900 Are we an artist? 83 00:06:53,780 --> 00:06:53,960 No. 84 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:01,180 But I was wondering, even just more locally, what about, you know, your, your peninsula 85 00:07:01,180 --> 00:07:01,600 early? 86 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:05,780 Do you have some sort of an email blast or a newsletter or something? 87 00:07:05,880 --> 00:07:07,840 We have a couple different things. 88 00:07:08,040 --> 00:07:08,160 Yeah. 89 00:07:08,300 --> 00:07:11,620 We have a creative brief every two weeks that goes out. 90 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:16,380 And then we have a digital magazine that goes out five times a year. 91 00:07:16,580 --> 00:07:19,500 So we'd be happy to put it in there. 92 00:07:19,660 --> 00:07:21,860 That's not an issue at all. 93 00:07:21,860 --> 00:07:25,060 If it's the two-week one, that would be nice. 94 00:07:25,200 --> 00:07:26,700 And maybe some of the artists there 95 00:07:26,700 --> 00:07:30,100 are looking at the gigabyte, maybe missed it. 96 00:07:30,260 --> 00:07:31,240 So there might be someone, right? 97 00:07:31,440 --> 00:07:32,500 And that's what already happened. 98 00:07:33,280 --> 00:07:34,880 Then it could be potentially someone. 99 00:07:36,020 --> 00:07:39,240 I think that I know there's no tree carvers. 100 00:07:39,580 --> 00:07:40,980 So I'm going to go there. 101 00:07:43,740 --> 00:07:47,380 But I thought the idea of a mosaic was interesting. 102 00:07:47,800 --> 00:07:49,740 And we do have some mosaic of artists. 103 00:07:49,740 --> 00:07:55,320 And I would, if you want, I would just reach out to them directly, because I haven't read 104 00:07:55,320 --> 00:08:02,000 the call for artists, but I don't know if it prompts anything like that, you know, like 105 00:08:02,000 --> 00:08:04,500 the Mosaic of Artists could look at it and think. 106 00:08:04,740 --> 00:08:11,560 Yeah, and then Roe said, Lynn, she didn't mention Mosaics, and so I was trying to 107 00:08:11,560 --> 00:08:13,660 picture how that blueboard would. 108 00:08:14,580 --> 00:08:18,860 Well, or it could be, you know, there are paths there, right? 109 00:08:18,860 --> 00:08:24,960 So there could be like half markers or something in Mosaic, something like that. 110 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:32,520 I haven't been in the park in a long time. I'll have to walk and see what's there. 111 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,440 But, and this is, this is. 112 00:08:37,390 --> 00:08:41,630 So how do you park is the one now that has that the building in it, right? 113 00:08:41,910 --> 00:08:45,610 This is just on the other side of right over here. 114 00:08:47,570 --> 00:08:48,010 Okay. 115 00:08:48,710 --> 00:08:48,950 All right. 116 00:08:49,130 --> 00:08:49,650 All right. 117 00:08:49,650 --> 00:08:49,890 All right. 118 00:08:49,910 --> 00:08:50,510 After the meeting. 119 00:08:50,930 --> 00:08:55,590 Um, but yeah, it could be some sort of marker or something that could be a mosaic. 120 00:08:56,010 --> 00:09:04,570 I mean, if you're open, if you guys like other ideas, um, I think the I, but 121 00:09:04,570 --> 00:09:10,430 But I do know that we don't have, you know, if it was just that you wanted tree snags, 122 00:09:10,810 --> 00:09:17,130 I'm not sure that there's anybody in the Peninsular League who would do that. 123 00:09:17,610 --> 00:09:20,070 But maybe they might know somebody who does. 124 00:09:21,470 --> 00:09:21,970 Not sure. 125 00:09:22,170 --> 00:09:23,270 That's the first possibility. 126 00:09:23,410 --> 00:09:23,890 They might. 127 00:09:25,850 --> 00:09:33,230 But yeah, but I mean, happy to put it in our newsletter, not a private one. 128 00:09:33,230 --> 00:09:37,070 It's just, you hate to see another year go by without adding something to that. 129 00:09:37,170 --> 00:09:42,470 So the money's set aside already, and so it's just a question of how much is the budget. 130 00:09:43,110 --> 00:09:51,470 So this was the, it's since has expired, the time to apply was May 1st. 131 00:09:51,490 --> 00:09:54,330 But this was the newsflash that went on. 132 00:09:55,250 --> 00:09:57,470 So it does say artistic carving or embellishment. 133 00:09:59,150 --> 00:10:00,570 Is it 1500? 134 00:10:00,890 --> 00:10:02,250 No, no, it was like 7,500. 135 00:10:02,930 --> 00:10:20,650 Yeah, I mean, that's that's a good budget. It's all artistic things. I think that I think we know say it could be interesting, especially, but yeah, stones just, you know, stones or and something nice to open it up and see what people come up with. 136 00:10:20,670 --> 00:10:29,310 Yeah, I agree. I think the thing is, is that like with any sort of installation right like you have to make sure there's a whole bunch of safety. 137 00:10:30,730 --> 00:10:35,990 So the trees are pretty self-standing. I mean, self-supporting, you know, for example. 138 00:10:36,590 --> 00:10:44,130 But what is the city's view, I wonder, on, like, something like the Mosaic in terms of maintenance, et cetera? 139 00:10:44,130 --> 00:10:52,210 Yeah. We'd probably have to talk to our public works department about that if the commission was going to open it up to something like that. 140 00:10:53,310 --> 00:10:58,870 Yeah. I was thinking that even if it were mosaic, we're still talking about the trees 141 00:10:58,870 --> 00:11:03,090 and the snags, because that's kind of what the whole purpose is. I was thinking it would 142 00:11:03,090 --> 00:11:09,690 be somehow embedded in the tree trunk. And then, just like the snags, though, it's kind 143 00:11:09,690 --> 00:11:14,830 of left to naturally weather and deteriorate. So I don't think anyone would be out there 144 00:11:15,330 --> 00:11:20,690 polishing it off or doing anything to it. My concern would be as it deteriorates, 145 00:11:20,690 --> 00:11:24,850 Is there stuff falling? Is there, that's, you know, if it's a lot of stuff is 146 00:11:24,850 --> 00:11:27,690 attached and then it's crumbling, that would be fine. 147 00:11:27,750 --> 00:11:31,050 Sure, sure. Depending on what. 148 00:11:31,190 --> 00:11:37,430 Yeah, kind of cool if we were going to do something like that to look at our other parts 149 00:11:37,430 --> 00:11:41,810 and maybe, because we want to, we have, I think there were, if I remember right, 150 00:11:41,890 --> 00:11:47,250 this was about a year ago, I think there were seven parts in the city and I visited all of them 151 00:11:47,250 --> 00:11:52,850 And they're all have all have walking trouts and none of them have any would be kind of cool to be able to say 152 00:11:52,850 --> 00:11:59,510 This is our mosaic park. This is our snag park. This is our nice, you know, and and we can have a whole 153 00:12:00,290 --> 00:12:01,550 because that would be 154 00:12:02,050 --> 00:12:07,970 You know something that people might a destination right you kind of like the big hobbit things, you know 155 00:12:07,970 --> 00:12:08,510 Oh, yeah 156 00:12:18,660 --> 00:12:20,460 So, you know, a troll or a haunt is, you know. 157 00:12:21,620 --> 00:12:24,420 Well, you know, even like Nora was saying, if it was done with stones, 158 00:12:24,780 --> 00:12:30,740 and that's having two of them as it naturally deteriorated, you're back to natural elements. 159 00:12:30,940 --> 00:12:34,840 So, you don't have shards of glass or anything like that that people would have to repart. 160 00:12:35,560 --> 00:12:35,880 Yeah. 161 00:12:36,300 --> 00:12:38,440 Yeah, like stone or mosaic. 162 00:12:39,020 --> 00:12:39,660 Stone would be nice. 163 00:12:39,880 --> 00:12:43,300 Like you're just saying one of those, like when you go to the beach and people go, 164 00:12:43,300 --> 00:12:48,860 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's right. And those would be very natural, right? 165 00:12:49,140 --> 00:12:57,900 Or even like garden some kind of, like a natural. So, I really like your idea of separating them out. 166 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:05,140 But if we did that, would we want to define it or just let it naturally be defined by what shows up? 167 00:13:07,140 --> 00:13:09,720 Well, I don't know. I guess let's talk about conversation. 168 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:16,100 Do we want to have things for each owner, or do we want to open it up for, you know, 169 00:13:16,180 --> 00:13:21,320 not going to be kind of cool to open it up for different art cases at different parks? 170 00:13:21,640 --> 00:13:27,100 If you have a thing, though, do we need to clear that with ten-met parks? 171 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:32,240 You know, though, since we don't have any offers at all, since no one is interested, 172 00:13:32,460 --> 00:13:34,100 I kind of think we need to leave it open. 173 00:13:34,260 --> 00:13:38,060 We can't, you know, even though we have no offers, here's what we want in this park. 174 00:13:38,060 --> 00:13:44,440 So let me see what we get and then just let the artists sort of have to find that maybe right. Yeah 175 00:13:44,980 --> 00:13:49,080 Right. I think I'm as far as this they're separate. Yeah, okay 176 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:52,620 I haven't I haven't been to any of the parks. So 177 00:13:53,200 --> 00:13:58,120 I have been here for almost nine years. I've got value, but it feels new so 178 00:13:59,660 --> 00:14:02,760 There's a great shoot. I wish I'd remembered the streets 179 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,980 There are some great parks. Well, there's just even 180 00:14:05,980 --> 00:14:09,560 and sound music part right at the end of sound music. 181 00:14:09,800 --> 00:14:12,240 I thought that was the right thing for the first time. 182 00:14:12,580 --> 00:14:15,160 Yeah, but you know, people walking down to seven seas, 183 00:14:15,460 --> 00:14:17,180 you know, like, you know how to like that, 184 00:14:17,340 --> 00:14:19,240 but it's right, you know, seven seas is, 185 00:14:19,460 --> 00:14:21,200 yeah, it's that little park up to the right. 186 00:14:22,680 --> 00:14:25,880 There's, yeah, there's all sorts of parts 187 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,620 and they're all walkable and they're really kind of cool, 188 00:14:28,800 --> 00:14:30,720 but then it'd be kind of really fun 189 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:32,000 to have to come out of pieces. 190 00:14:32,260 --> 00:14:32,940 It's like summer projects. 191 00:14:33,700 --> 00:14:33,860 Yeah. 192 00:14:35,340 --> 00:14:53,960 So does this the money that's put aside because I forget when we put this money aside if they've had any sort of limitations on could it be what you know does it have to be an installation kind of be some sort of creative invent or something like that. 193 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:59,860 Well, I think it's not for an event, but it is for any kind of installation in those. 194 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:06,940 Forest is my understanding, so it's been focused on carvings, but it could be embellishment, but 195 00:15:06,940 --> 00:15:13,900 it's not like to have an art show in the forest. It's not for that. It's for a certain piece of art. 196 00:15:14,380 --> 00:15:19,960 Yeah. Okay, I was just thinking more of like, I know of events that have not events, but just 197 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:26,840 flower installations in forests. So you put, you work with somebody like the West Sound Flower 198 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:34,400 sure there are a lot of flower farmers in this area and, you know, in the summer they've got an 199 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:42,280 abundance of, you know, and if you had them come in and do flower installations and trees, I mean, 200 00:15:42,500 --> 00:15:48,220 I've participated in something like that before and then it just naturally decays. It's not like 201 00:15:48,220 --> 00:15:54,880 you'd have to take it down, you know, and some of them, even if they're dry flowers, 202 00:15:54,880 --> 00:16:00,020 to be quite beautiful, but I don't know if that's outside what you're thinking or whatever, so just 203 00:16:00,020 --> 00:16:06,900 an idea. Do you know anything about glass flowers? About what? Do you know anything? No, not glass, 204 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:13,020 real flowers, where they would come in. There's like, you know, 15 or 20 flower farms in this area. 205 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:20,160 Yeah, there's some pots. And actually, I don't know many, this is what my books about, 206 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:26,640 that's why I know about it. But there's actually, if anybody's ever heard of farm girl flowers, 207 00:16:27,220 --> 00:16:35,620 there are headquarters down here on the peninsula. Yeah, so they move from San Francisco to here. 208 00:16:36,180 --> 00:16:45,780 So there's lots of resources to do something like that in the summer that could be, it's not 209 00:16:45,780 --> 00:16:50,240 really an event but it could be like an installation for and you just leave them 210 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:55,300 there and let them decay but I don't think it would cost this though but it's 211 00:16:55,300 --> 00:17:00,360 kind of making me think when you say I mean to be honest I'm like you I've been 212 00:17:00,360 --> 00:17:05,560 here diners and you think I've been in one of the you know and that's kind of 213 00:17:05,560 --> 00:17:11,280 sad because there's a reason or a reason to go you know to check something 214 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:11,700 Yeah. 215 00:17:11,740 --> 00:17:12,720 I would not be kind of cool. 216 00:17:13,100 --> 00:17:14,280 Oh, is this the flower? 217 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:14,600 Yeah. 218 00:17:14,960 --> 00:17:16,640 I love that idea. 219 00:17:17,020 --> 00:17:17,940 I would be natural. 220 00:17:18,480 --> 00:17:18,820 Yeah. 221 00:17:19,300 --> 00:17:23,320 I can send you examples of, you know, what's been done in other places. 222 00:17:23,860 --> 00:17:24,100 Okay. 223 00:17:24,420 --> 00:17:24,860 Yeah. 224 00:17:25,760 --> 00:17:31,660 I seem to remember that we discussed that the 7500 was to go to one artist. 225 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,700 Is that correct? 226 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:40,240 I think that was for the person crying for a second. 227 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:44,640 For what it could be and we kind of while we were looking for proposals. So, yeah 228 00:17:45,440 --> 00:17:48,820 Depends on what what the proposals were somebody might have said here 229 00:17:48,820 --> 00:17:53,960 I can create this for three thousand and somebody might have said I can create this for two thousand and you know 230 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,660 So it really depended. I think on what came in 231 00:17:58,400 --> 00:17:58,840 Okay 232 00:17:59,520 --> 00:18:04,320 Yeah, I guess it's like if somebody came in with mosaic and said oh, I could do that for $3,500 233 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:07,400 Right, yeah 234 00:18:07,400 --> 00:18:09,860 then you could accept multiple applications. 235 00:18:12,480 --> 00:18:17,180 It's the forest. Unfortunately, they don't have a lot of sunshine, but when you were talking flowers, 236 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:25,760 I've seen really beautiful plantings of flowers that are in a design or a shape of something, 237 00:18:25,980 --> 00:18:29,980 but they generally do much with shade of the forest. 238 00:18:29,980 --> 00:18:31,800 They're all shaped loans. 239 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:36,240 Yeah, you could plan in an interesting way. 240 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:37,740 Coley is especially. 241 00:18:38,280 --> 00:18:39,980 Yeah, they don't look pretty. 242 00:18:40,140 --> 00:18:43,440 They have a big design, but just a lot of plans. 243 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,280 I mean, in kind of installations, I've seen two, 244 00:18:47,460 --> 00:18:48,600 whereas they just kind of go, 245 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,620 I didn't make it more like a fairy forest. 246 00:18:51,080 --> 00:18:52,600 Like, do you know what I mean? 247 00:18:52,900 --> 00:18:56,320 Like it's not just put a heart in there or something. 248 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:57,660 That's great too, 249 00:18:57,660 --> 00:19:02,420 but they kind of make it like exploratory and little kind of, you know, 250 00:19:03,500 --> 00:19:12,340 tuck this in a snag here and that in a snag there, you know. And it's not made the last, right? So 251 00:19:12,340 --> 00:19:16,820 it doesn't necessarily matter that there's not a lot of snags because... Right, right. 252 00:19:17,620 --> 00:19:21,480 Well, would it be better to say if we were going to go down this route that 253 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,380 that any art would need to be self-sustainable 254 00:19:24,820 --> 00:19:28,880 and to not put labor onto the city, would that do it? 255 00:19:29,180 --> 00:19:33,360 Yeah, I'll have to look at what the contract says right now. 256 00:19:36,140 --> 00:19:38,280 I'll have to see if there's anything about maintenance. 257 00:19:39,300 --> 00:19:40,940 I would assume that it's not. 258 00:19:41,140 --> 00:19:44,400 I would assume it's a hands-off type of a thing. 259 00:19:45,580 --> 00:19:47,340 So I'd have to confirm that. 260 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:48,520 Yeah, that's a good question. 261 00:19:48,720 --> 00:19:49,160 But yeah, it's fine. 262 00:19:49,160 --> 00:19:49,580 It's fine too. 263 00:19:49,840 --> 00:19:50,120 Yeah. 264 00:19:50,120 --> 00:19:59,980 Yeah, I forgot that when I went out to the different parks looking for snags, I created a report and I will try to find it. 265 00:20:01,240 --> 00:20:02,540 That was like a year ago. 266 00:20:02,560 --> 00:20:03,700 Yeah, that's why I was told more. 267 00:20:04,100 --> 00:20:06,760 Well, try to find it because I've had pictures of all the different parks. 268 00:20:06,820 --> 00:20:07,580 That would be great. 269 00:20:07,780 --> 00:20:09,140 So I'll try to find it and send it. 270 00:20:09,140 --> 00:20:11,160 Have you all been to the different parks before? 271 00:20:12,200 --> 00:20:13,560 I have questions. 272 00:20:14,780 --> 00:20:16,580 Okay, you're the best one of them. 273 00:20:16,580 --> 00:20:21,260 I have to lay across the street from the sound. 274 00:20:23,300 --> 00:20:25,560 That's the one that's kind of the hot part. 275 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:31,940 Yeah, the sound part, sound you purse the hot one right now under a lot of discussion. 276 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:35,960 Was it difficult to take about how to mention. Yeah. 277 00:20:37,180 --> 00:20:41,180 But they're also talking about what to do in that house, right? Yeah. 278 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:43,660 There's a house somewhere. 279 00:20:43,660 --> 00:20:46,200 Yeah, I didn't know there was either. 280 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:50,160 Yeah, so far and I don't know. I've never been to that part. 281 00:20:50,600 --> 00:20:51,960 I don't even see it. 282 00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:55,880 Yeah, the sound you guys. Yeah. 283 00:20:57,420 --> 00:20:59,540 I have to go walking down there. Yeah. 284 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:03,140 You know, when you were talking about obits and trolls, 285 00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,100 but I've seen those little fairy houses too. 286 00:21:06,220 --> 00:21:08,460 And those can be really cool. Like the moss for the room. 287 00:21:08,460 --> 00:21:12,380 We've been giving him a lot of bark and all that, and then touch those up, and that's, you know. 288 00:21:12,380 --> 00:21:17,880 That would be a sweet idea too, just to, like, ask people to do a fairy house contest. 289 00:21:18,460 --> 00:21:19,240 That's probably a good idea. 290 00:21:19,380 --> 00:21:19,880 You know what I mean? 291 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:25,140 I mean, when you were saying they don't have carvers, but I would think there are people that probably either 292 00:21:25,140 --> 00:21:29,880 they wouldn't do that or wouldn't do that, and that would be a fun thing. 293 00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:35,800 If there were 10 fairy houses in the, and then, you know, you walk around and look for them. 294 00:21:35,800 --> 00:21:38,640 I would think kids would like that and adults would like that. 295 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:49,160 In the heart there is a tree and it looks like an old man in the trunk and it looks like it has two 296 00:21:49,160 --> 00:21:54,860 eyes and a big nose and kind of a smile and I think that it's a family that does exactly that. 297 00:21:54,980 --> 00:22:00,380 They've created this little fairy and all on their own and every time I walk my dog through 298 00:22:00,380 --> 00:22:06,360 there it's changed so I'm filming it's it's kids you know parents and their kids 299 00:22:06,360 --> 00:22:09,740 that go and change it all the time and a Christmas time I'll go to the dollar 300 00:22:09,740 --> 00:22:14,980 store and kind of add to it you know because I like I thought oh wouldn't 301 00:22:14,980 --> 00:22:18,780 it be fun if you were a kid something you know changed and then something new so 302 00:22:18,780 --> 00:22:22,660 I do that regularly but it is really cool because it the trunk of the tree 303 00:22:22,660 --> 00:22:27,670 looks like this old man in the tree it's really wild and they yeah it's 304 00:22:27,670 --> 00:22:34,310 Grandview Park. But yeah something like that in a park with me. Yeah so Sonia with the fairy house 305 00:22:34,310 --> 00:22:41,830 I do know a fairy not smart essentially he was he was at the our summer art art festival two years 306 00:22:41,830 --> 00:22:48,870 ago. He was so popular and he's the nicest guy he just he just pulled back from doing festivals 307 00:22:48,870 --> 00:22:58,190 because they were just too stressful for him, which I understand. But he, I mean, he's amazing. 308 00:22:58,590 --> 00:23:03,190 And I guess the thing would be, if we did that, could we get them high enough so people wouldn't 309 00:23:03,190 --> 00:23:05,450 steal them or whatever? Right, right. 310 00:23:08,090 --> 00:23:13,270 But I mean, the snags are high, right? If you put them on 311 00:23:13,270 --> 00:23:17,950 top of snags. I think it just depends. I think some of them are, some of them are lower. 312 00:23:17,950 --> 00:23:23,910 Yeah, but that is true. I mean, I guess you do always have to worry about theft, but it's just it's like the idea of these little 313 00:23:23,910 --> 00:23:25,330 various things, a lot of that. 314 00:23:25,330 --> 00:23:26,450 I love that, doesn't it? 315 00:23:26,610 --> 00:23:29,850 I think that's really sweet. I think that's great. 316 00:23:31,030 --> 00:23:36,490 And a little more, you know, and it would naturally decay, it could naturally decay. 317 00:23:37,050 --> 00:23:40,570 And you could secure them in there. I mean, you could nail them in. 318 00:23:40,870 --> 00:23:41,490 Yeah, that's true. 319 00:23:42,370 --> 00:23:42,850 It's true. 320 00:23:43,930 --> 00:23:45,690 Yeah, that would be great. 321 00:23:45,690 --> 00:23:45,750 Okay. 322 00:23:47,310 --> 00:23:49,670 Do you want me to reach out to the fairies? 323 00:23:51,610 --> 00:23:55,310 I'll let Ireland speak. It's kind of in your project, but you know. 324 00:23:56,250 --> 00:24:01,330 Yeah, I think we just have to determine what we do at a brand new or if we move it into the park. 325 00:24:02,110 --> 00:24:06,670 Well, let me reach out to him and see if he's interested in putting in a response. 326 00:24:07,030 --> 00:24:07,770 Because there's a limit. 327 00:24:08,590 --> 00:24:09,730 Then you tell me. 328 00:24:10,330 --> 00:24:18,330 There's a really cool park. You can't move in every crossroads. It's over. I'll darn it. But it's a rather large park. 329 00:24:19,890 --> 00:24:27,930 There's mainly park and we walk all through it. It would be really cool for that because it gets some of the sun in it. 330 00:24:28,090 --> 00:24:35,750 And it would be really, that would be, it has a little bridge. You know, we go over a little lake and it would be really kind of cool. 331 00:24:35,750 --> 00:24:38,590 That would be smart. I would think that would be really neat. 332 00:24:39,270 --> 00:24:44,030 And I guess the other thing we would have to check on, though, is that May 1st expiration date. 333 00:24:44,250 --> 00:24:48,730 Yeah, we'd have to restart the recruit. 334 00:24:50,410 --> 00:24:55,570 And we'd want to change the language because right now it's only referring to SNACs and Psygram and Forest Park. 335 00:24:55,970 --> 00:25:04,410 So, yeah, you'd have to just basically let me know what kind of art and what park and if you want specific themes, 336 00:25:04,410 --> 00:25:08,010 then we want to include that in our request for proposals. 337 00:25:12,940 --> 00:25:18,040 For initial funding and initial putting it out there, do you want to keep it Grandview 338 00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:21,260 or do you want to add some park to it? 339 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:24,460 Don't have any SNAG artists that are coming forward. 340 00:25:24,940 --> 00:25:31,660 If you wouldn't mind putting it in, but maybe we make it a grander park. 341 00:25:32,220 --> 00:25:37,240 If a SNAG artist would go to Grandview, and the other artists would go to another 342 00:25:37,240 --> 00:25:37,820 park. 343 00:25:37,820 --> 00:25:45,160 Yeah, I don't mind putting it in the newsletter, but I will tell you with our constituency you're 344 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:58,240 not going to get any snags, so I would say that if you brawned it, like with mosaics 345 00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:11,200 or, you know, houses or ideas for, you know, nature friendly installations that you would 346 00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,940 potentially get some people that way. 347 00:26:19,650 --> 00:26:25,390 So right now we say artistic carving and or embellishment of select three states. 348 00:26:28,030 --> 00:26:28,270 Yeah. 349 00:26:28,270 --> 00:26:43,470 Well, well, I think embellishments are rather blind time. Don't we need some suggestions and parentheses maybe, you know, or maybe examples of photos, photo examples of what's been done or something. 350 00:26:44,730 --> 00:26:49,150 Well, if we're talking a fairy park, very dark park. 351 00:26:50,050 --> 00:26:53,290 Oh, I'm sure that we could Google fairy garden park. Can we look? 352 00:26:53,290 --> 00:27:03,480 Yeah, and I can look as well, first of these symbols too, and I'll send them all to you, 353 00:27:03,660 --> 00:27:06,140 whatever I find, and then get some feedback. 354 00:27:08,570 --> 00:27:12,630 Well, then it sounds like we want to somewhat 355 00:27:12,630 --> 00:27:21,490 broaden this statement of artists meeting, and then, Caroline, if you want to put thought into 356 00:27:21,490 --> 00:27:24,530 to what other park you might be thinking about. 357 00:27:24,870 --> 00:27:28,510 Yeah, I'll find that report and I'll resend it to everyone. 358 00:27:29,950 --> 00:27:30,850 That would be great. 359 00:27:31,530 --> 00:27:33,750 And along with his address. 360 00:27:34,510 --> 00:27:38,010 So I didn't want to, you know, see if it's true life. 361 00:27:40,410 --> 00:27:43,790 I mean, you could do a whole thing around this, right? 362 00:27:45,430 --> 00:27:48,430 Tie it with, depending on which park you did it, 363 00:27:48,510 --> 00:27:50,250 you could tie it with chop the harbor. 364 00:27:50,250 --> 00:27:57,850 right you know if you did the sound view part it'd be and then go visit the the ferry installations 365 00:27:57,850 --> 00:28:03,870 yeah chopper right it's all walkable and right the city would love that i know right here 366 00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:07,400 we go 367 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:10,840 can you even find key elements of a fairy garden bar 368 00:28:12,420 --> 00:28:15,540 A.I. spit out. 369 00:28:20,380 --> 00:28:21,760 This would be so sweet. 370 00:28:22,060 --> 00:28:22,800 That's such a good idea. 371 00:28:24,860 --> 00:28:25,920 It's really exciting. 372 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:27,400 Thank you. 373 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:28,920 Oh, yeah. 374 00:28:29,180 --> 00:28:29,300 Yeah. 375 00:28:29,780 --> 00:28:31,580 I mean, that is wonderful. 376 00:28:36,270 --> 00:28:36,530 All right. 377 00:28:36,630 --> 00:28:38,810 Well then, let's try it for next meeting. 378 00:28:39,090 --> 00:28:42,330 Let's try to think about broadening that definition and then 379 00:28:42,330 --> 00:28:43,870 pair with a few things about parks. 380 00:28:45,390 --> 00:28:45,870 And 381 00:28:49,290 --> 00:28:51,150 we can get that done at our next meeting. 382 00:28:51,510 --> 00:28:57,570 Yeah, and now it's kind of the season to do it. 383 00:28:57,910 --> 00:28:59,490 I know, we got to hurry up. 384 00:29:02,550 --> 00:29:04,990 Chop the harbor in August 15. 385 00:29:05,470 --> 00:29:06,790 I think it's at the end of summer. 386 00:29:07,470 --> 00:29:07,750 Okay. 387 00:29:08,550 --> 00:29:09,450 So it gives you some. 388 00:29:09,790 --> 00:29:10,530 We might have time. 389 00:29:11,730 --> 00:29:12,210 Okay. 390 00:29:13,630 --> 00:29:14,950 Chop the harbor as well. 391 00:29:15,770 --> 00:29:22,510 August 15th. What is it? Oh, it's drawing something. Oh, chalk. Yeah, I thought you said chalk. 392 00:29:24,410 --> 00:29:26,530 We're going to look at you on the previous one. 393 00:29:26,810 --> 00:29:30,170 Logging, logging events. That's very interesting. 394 00:29:31,950 --> 00:29:33,690 Chalk is a harbor, I totally know it. 395 00:29:37,030 --> 00:29:42,070 All right, that sounds good then. Neurogon Park and expand the definition for the next 10. 396 00:29:43,070 --> 00:29:48,950 It's not on the agenda, but just to touch back on it for creative endeavor, France. 397 00:29:50,450 --> 00:29:59,770 Any comments or things that you felt didn't go well or that you'd like to see change in the application for next year? 398 00:30:03,180 --> 00:30:05,160 Let me just say, thank you for our work. 399 00:30:06,820 --> 00:30:07,020 Just 400 00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:28,060 to have to do with the application, but Tiffany gave us the charts of like 23, 24, 25, what had been given, who applied, and everything. If you could make one for 26, I think there was a very helpful message. 401 00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:36,600 Yeah, absolutely. And then I'll probably, I'll do that as I'm doing the website when I have time to do the website. 402 00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:45,500 I would really like to see us insist that people give us a full budget, like I was saying 403 00:30:45,500 --> 00:30:53,140 at that last meeting, instead of just a little list of what they're planning to buy, because 404 00:30:53,140 --> 00:30:58,000 it really makes a difference if they're going to be getting a lot of grants from other places 405 00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:05,800 are flying then we would know really without that knowledge not that these 406 00:31:05,800 --> 00:31:11,520 people are going to be doing something unethical but there is a potential they 407 00:31:11,520 --> 00:31:15,000 could be receiving a lot of funding from a lot of different organizations that we 408 00:31:15,000 --> 00:31:20,640 would never know what we're spending that money on ethical yeah but if we're 409 00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:24,220 asking are you saying like doubling like take like doubling the grants so same 410 00:31:24,220 --> 00:31:38,620 Yeah, like from setting the same documentation to to like multiple organizations who are okay. Yeah, just we need to say a budget includes all of your income potential income and all of your expenses. 411 00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,180 So we can. 412 00:31:42,180 --> 00:31:48,700 I'm not sure, I mean, you have to check with how, I mean, I'm not opposed to that, but 413 00:31:48,700 --> 00:31:56,180 I'm just saying I think I would check how other organizations do it because as a non-profit 414 00:31:56,180 --> 00:31:59,600 you might not have to do that or, you know, it all depends. 415 00:32:00,340 --> 00:32:06,240 I used to do grants and development, so yeah, we used to do that for non-profits. 416 00:32:07,140 --> 00:32:07,260 Yeah. 417 00:32:07,360 --> 00:32:10,700 And what about since that these are small grants, is there an industry in small and 418 00:32:10,700 --> 00:32:10,860 large? 419 00:32:10,860 --> 00:32:21,040 I don't think that it's an issue to be asking if they're expecting to get a grant from somebody. 420 00:32:21,680 --> 00:32:22,440 Don't we have a question? 421 00:32:23,340 --> 00:32:24,220 Yeah, we have that on there. 422 00:32:24,540 --> 00:32:30,860 But I don't know if it asks about how much or it just says, I think it just says, 423 00:32:30,940 --> 00:32:32,520 You receive funding right? 424 00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:34,620 Right, it's a pretty simple. 425 00:32:35,100 --> 00:32:36,360 Yeah, it's not going very deep. 426 00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,480 Excuse my ignorance. 427 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:46,560 Do we frown upon it? Do we only expect it? No, it's not at all. Oh, does it? Does it inform it? Yes, it's more information. More information. 428 00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:49,540 I have to ask you, are you still writing grants? 429 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:52,320 No. 430 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,240 Nice. That is a smelly smell. It really is. 431 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:01,120 I'm looking for a grant writer. 432 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:11,600 I used to write them for the singing group that I'm in and to come up, but we would apply 433 00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:12,460 for multiple grants. 434 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:18,420 I mean, they were very big, but we would apply for multiple and our budget was our budget 435 00:33:18,420 --> 00:33:23,180 and if we got the grant that helped us meet the budget and if we didn't get it, we had 436 00:33:23,180 --> 00:33:23,320 to. 437 00:33:24,020 --> 00:33:31,980 No, there's no problem in getting tons of as much money as you would try for. 438 00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:33,360 It's just the knowledge. 439 00:33:33,740 --> 00:33:37,160 You just want to see those figures and you want to see where it's coming from or eventually 440 00:33:37,160 --> 00:33:37,940 yeah I get that. 441 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,880 Are sponsorships different from grants? 442 00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:41,760 Yes. 443 00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:42,600 Yeah. 444 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:43,180 Okay. 445 00:33:43,440 --> 00:33:45,500 So if you get a sponsorship from a business. 446 00:33:46,100 --> 00:33:48,140 Typically there's nothing involved in that. 447 00:33:48,260 --> 00:33:51,720 There's no springs or it's just right. 448 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:56,740 Right, it's like a, you know, well, you promise they're going, they're going, right, right. 449 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:01,040 Versus the grant where there's reporting involved. 450 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:10,860 Well, we had a couple of applications that didn't have much at all about what they were going to spend the money on. 451 00:34:11,020 --> 00:34:12,960 It's kind of a broad category. 452 00:34:13,100 --> 00:34:17,040 And I think that was $1,500 for supplies or something like that. 453 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:19,080 Yeah, and it's like what supplies or what, yeah. 454 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:26,960 I guess I don't mind a little bit more detail, but I feel like the grants aren't that big 455 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,480 and we're supporting local projects. 456 00:34:29,660 --> 00:34:36,280 I guess I wouldn't want to be nickel and diming somebody on the money, and also that's not 457 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:37,200 our responsibility. 458 00:34:37,540 --> 00:34:41,920 That goes to the city because the city is the one that handles the finance and not 459 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:42,240 us. 460 00:34:42,820 --> 00:34:46,960 So if there were, I verify that they've used the funds correctly, not you. 461 00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:53,400 Right. So we just make a suggestion that we'd like to see that get the money, but the city handles that 462 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,880 Actually, and if they don't meet that they won't get reinterested. But in their final report 463 00:34:57,880 --> 00:35:03,020 Don't they have to have an accounting and patty stuff? Oh, oh, yeah, I haven't seen me ask you to. Yeah 464 00:35:04,340 --> 00:35:07,940 Sorry, I've seen paid invoices. Yeah, I need proof that it was paying it 465 00:35:07,940 --> 00:35:11,500 I need proof that it was spent that way. Yeah, that's someone who wrote that file 466 00:35:12,840 --> 00:35:17,080 On vacation last year, because I didn't realize it was due, but it was due. 467 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,040 Yeah, it takes a while, but it does. 468 00:35:21,240 --> 00:35:25,640 Yeah, the bigger projects like it, it's a lot of paperwork that comes through the door. 469 00:35:26,620 --> 00:35:28,720 They get reversed for their time, though, also, right? 470 00:35:28,860 --> 00:35:36,500 You can use, you can include, you know, volunteer losses as time for reimbursement, yeah. 471 00:35:38,300 --> 00:35:39,680 Oh, I didn't know that. 472 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:51,820 Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You just have to provide volunteer logs, something that shows. Yeah. Yeah. We're 100% volunteers. Yeah. That's probably really easy for you. 473 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:03,720 Yeah. 474 00:36:03,720 --> 00:36:13,440 We're almost like to, not that everybody volunteers, but it's just hard to get people to log their hours. Yeah. Yeah. Which you're shaking your head. Yeah. 475 00:36:14,380 --> 00:36:15,020 Well, 476 00:36:18,130 --> 00:36:30,290 one thing we did talk about last month also was to try to get all of us individually to go to more of these activities that we're hoping to find. 477 00:36:30,290 --> 00:36:35,210 Yeah, we're gonna have a list of dates that they have. 478 00:36:35,210 --> 00:36:36,850 That's the website when I went BS. 479 00:36:37,090 --> 00:36:39,090 That's my goal, is to get that on to the website. 480 00:36:39,670 --> 00:36:41,730 We're just making more work for Tiffany. 481 00:36:42,390 --> 00:36:43,650 Yeah, right? 482 00:36:44,250 --> 00:36:45,550 It's on the list as well. 483 00:36:46,290 --> 00:36:47,970 Well, what website are you talking about? 484 00:36:48,050 --> 00:36:50,190 Your guys' website, the Arts Commission website 485 00:36:50,190 --> 00:36:53,910 I was gonna put just kind of the grants that were... 486 00:36:53,910 --> 00:36:55,370 I didn't even know we had the website. 487 00:36:55,870 --> 00:36:56,690 We have a website. 488 00:36:57,190 --> 00:36:59,470 That's how we all got contacted 489 00:36:59,470 --> 00:37:03,870 did when all that stuff went down was our names were all on one website together, one 490 00:37:03,870 --> 00:37:12,150 with age together. That's how we all were, yes. That's how they got our names. Let me 491 00:37:12,150 --> 00:37:14,630 show you. It's on the city. 492 00:37:16,650 --> 00:37:21,450 It's a page on the city's phone. You go, this is a, well 493 00:37:21,450 --> 00:37:26,030 she's doing that. Did you, did everybody ask for a grant, get a grant on the street? 494 00:37:27,950 --> 00:37:32,750 All but one, last one, who didn't get them around. 495 00:37:33,470 --> 00:37:39,930 It was a high school kid who wanted to take elderly patients around to different arts. 496 00:37:41,290 --> 00:37:43,410 It was only from a specific neighborhood. 497 00:37:44,630 --> 00:37:46,070 And it wasn't brought in on. 498 00:37:46,070 --> 00:37:47,850 It doesn't sound like a beginner project. 499 00:37:48,350 --> 00:37:52,810 It was a buddy project with seniors. 500 00:37:52,810 --> 00:37:57,170 years, you know, which we were all in favor of, and I think it sounds great, but I didn't 501 00:37:57,170 --> 00:38:00,110 really see, we didn't see it as a creative endeavor. 502 00:38:00,670 --> 00:38:05,550 You just went in for the senior ground, that's what I was suggesting, I think he did, he 503 00:38:05,550 --> 00:38:06,750 went to Shea afterward. 504 00:38:07,490 --> 00:38:12,070 But if you just go to their main webpage and hover over the government, and these are 505 00:38:12,070 --> 00:38:12,830 all of the boards. 506 00:38:13,170 --> 00:38:14,070 Oh my goodness. 507 00:38:14,290 --> 00:38:14,790 Oh my goodness. 508 00:38:15,590 --> 00:38:18,130 And that's where, sorry. 509 00:38:18,370 --> 00:38:19,350 I did, I went off. 510 00:38:23,210 --> 00:38:25,530 What did I sign up for exactly? 511 00:38:26,250 --> 00:38:29,690 So down here is where I can get the names of the new commissions. 512 00:38:31,070 --> 00:38:37,610 Down here is where I can put the, you know, the recipients of the 2026 grants. 513 00:38:37,950 --> 00:38:45,730 Yeah, we were able to give most of the people that apply what they asked for just because 514 00:38:45,730 --> 00:38:52,550 We didn't have, we had $35,000, which was $5,000 more than we've had in the past. 515 00:38:53,030 --> 00:38:57,350 And it didn't, our applicants didn't exceed that by a whole lot. 516 00:38:57,390 --> 00:39:01,530 So we looked at it and said, well, we might be able to give everybody today. 517 00:39:01,770 --> 00:39:03,290 That's great. It's pretty, pretty good. 518 00:39:03,370 --> 00:39:04,230 It was close. 519 00:39:04,550 --> 00:39:04,590 Yeah. 520 00:39:04,810 --> 00:39:05,450 It was really close. 521 00:39:05,450 --> 00:39:07,250 It was like zero plus, but it was close. 522 00:39:07,730 --> 00:39:08,230 And it was worth it. 523 00:39:08,230 --> 00:39:19,950 We were you grant applications and the money is allocated by the city is or by you guys, we make a recommended allocation. 524 00:39:20,390 --> 00:39:22,990 The budget is determined. 525 00:39:23,630 --> 00:39:25,670 That's around March. 526 00:39:26,050 --> 00:39:26,630 Okay. 527 00:39:26,950 --> 00:39:30,230 That we have that meeting and all applications are in. 528 00:39:30,470 --> 00:39:30,630 I see. 529 00:39:31,090 --> 00:39:31,150 Yeah. 530 00:39:31,550 --> 00:39:31,710 Yeah. 531 00:39:32,150 --> 00:39:34,410 So yeah, this year when I signed up for, but here I had. 532 00:39:34,410 --> 00:39:38,810 Yeah. So yeah, the city sets the budget and then you will make the recommendation within that budget. 533 00:39:38,930 --> 00:39:43,530 It's probably the largest thing, right, that we do. 534 00:39:43,810 --> 00:39:49,710 Yeah, so we have an orchestra concert at the end of May, but I'll be attending that one. 535 00:39:49,890 --> 00:39:55,150 So there's one of our first, uh, first creative endeavor, right? 536 00:39:56,110 --> 00:40:02,190 I think that was for last year's orchestra, I think, so that was coverage. 537 00:40:02,190 --> 00:40:03,470 But I don't know. 538 00:40:03,470 --> 00:40:07,910 I'll make her look back until we get started on the website. 539 00:40:08,490 --> 00:40:11,970 And we'll invite you to the opening party for the National Fine Arts Show. 540 00:40:12,910 --> 00:40:12,950 Yeah. 541 00:40:13,450 --> 00:40:14,650 We would love that. 542 00:40:15,550 --> 00:40:20,390 Yeah, because I know you've got the art show coming up this summer, and then there's the net shed. 543 00:40:20,550 --> 00:40:21,950 They're going to do the... 544 00:40:23,370 --> 00:40:23,970 That's right. 545 00:40:24,250 --> 00:40:24,670 Oh, yeah. 546 00:40:25,610 --> 00:40:26,230 That's right. 547 00:40:28,210 --> 00:40:28,830 That's right. 548 00:40:28,870 --> 00:40:29,270 That's right. 549 00:40:29,270 --> 00:40:34,830 And then is there something this weekend up on the grass and maybe something? 550 00:40:35,830 --> 00:40:36,630 That was last week. 551 00:40:36,630 --> 00:40:37,350 That was last week. 552 00:40:37,530 --> 00:40:38,170 Oh, this last week? 553 00:40:38,310 --> 00:40:38,450 Yeah. 554 00:40:38,990 --> 00:40:40,190 So, geez. 555 00:40:40,450 --> 00:40:40,590 Okay. 556 00:40:40,890 --> 00:40:41,910 Yeah, there was something. 557 00:40:41,990 --> 00:40:42,610 There was an event. 558 00:40:42,790 --> 00:40:44,810 I can't remember what it was for. 559 00:40:44,930 --> 00:40:45,590 Somebody mentioned something. 560 00:40:45,650 --> 00:40:48,610 Oh, I just thought that if the barbie bear or something. 561 00:40:49,190 --> 00:40:51,310 It was for this week. 562 00:40:51,530 --> 00:40:53,550 Yeah, it was like a craft bear. 563 00:40:53,810 --> 00:40:54,190 Was it? 564 00:40:59,950 --> 00:41:01,610 or the one from the previous. 565 00:41:01,690 --> 00:41:01,930 Okay. 566 00:41:02,230 --> 00:41:03,810 Was that for Bees Bagels? 567 00:41:04,670 --> 00:41:06,170 No, that was for two weekends. 568 00:41:06,430 --> 00:41:08,370 That was Mother's Day, that's about it. 569 00:41:08,570 --> 00:41:09,070 No, it was number two. 570 00:41:09,250 --> 00:41:09,670 Yeah. 571 00:41:10,010 --> 00:41:11,250 It was called Farmer Favorites. 572 00:41:11,530 --> 00:41:13,950 I don't know, but I have not just a fine word for it yet. 573 00:41:14,770 --> 00:41:17,110 Yeah, I wasn't in town, so I didn't go to that. 574 00:41:17,130 --> 00:41:18,570 Did anyone go to that mother's day? 575 00:41:19,330 --> 00:41:20,090 So, there was. 576 00:41:20,330 --> 00:41:22,430 It was over at Mother's Day weekend. 577 00:41:23,050 --> 00:41:23,970 Oh, the Bees Bagels? 578 00:41:24,050 --> 00:41:24,910 Yeah, Bagels. 579 00:41:25,130 --> 00:41:26,030 I drove by. 580 00:41:26,930 --> 00:41:28,750 And one of the artists of Powell was in there 581 00:41:28,750 --> 00:41:33,490 and she did very well. She's reasonably priced, so she sold out Saturdays. 582 00:41:33,630 --> 00:41:38,390 Oh, that's good. But I drove by, and it was about 10 tents. 583 00:41:38,930 --> 00:41:40,770 Oh, okay. So not real big. 584 00:41:41,050 --> 00:41:41,630 Not real big. 585 00:41:41,930 --> 00:41:42,830 No, that's more than I thought. 586 00:41:43,250 --> 00:41:45,170 Yeah, that's what I thought, too, which she sells. 587 00:41:46,370 --> 00:41:52,170 She does miniature paintings, and she sells prints of them, so they're very affordable. 588 00:41:52,170 --> 00:41:56,530 You know, she don't want like those six by six. 589 00:41:57,270 --> 00:42:01,110 You know, she now like she frames them and stuff. 590 00:42:01,290 --> 00:42:06,190 I mean, she's been in our show on the Peninsula Art League wall and her work always sells. 591 00:42:06,810 --> 00:42:09,990 It's just there's something very charming about her work. 592 00:42:10,430 --> 00:42:12,890 And so she did very well. 593 00:42:13,250 --> 00:42:16,790 But then I think they were like, it looked like there were about 10 booze there. 594 00:42:16,790 --> 00:42:27,950 And then the last one last weekend had about, I think, 25 foods and food trucks. 595 00:42:30,410 --> 00:42:35,030 I think they had a little, the weather was kind of, it was always sort of like when you 596 00:42:35,030 --> 00:42:36,110 do these outdoor things. 597 00:42:36,470 --> 00:42:43,250 But I'm sure anything that's, you know, it's just as unlike any maid that I've 598 00:42:44,010 --> 00:42:47,610 Yeah, it's like the one thing that totally stresses all of us out. 599 00:42:48,570 --> 00:42:50,690 Well, not the one thing. 600 00:42:52,450 --> 00:42:53,370 One of them. 601 00:42:53,570 --> 00:42:54,070 One of them. 602 00:42:58,250 --> 00:43:00,830 But they really did a nice job. 603 00:43:02,150 --> 00:43:05,070 They had tables out, people sit and you say, 604 00:43:06,330 --> 00:43:07,890 That wasn't on the list. 605 00:43:08,710 --> 00:43:10,010 No, so who sponsored it? 606 00:43:10,010 --> 00:43:12,150 No, I think you guys sponsored it. 607 00:43:13,170 --> 00:43:15,350 We did the these bagels. 608 00:43:15,590 --> 00:43:16,890 Well, the mother, they want that. 609 00:43:17,670 --> 00:43:20,030 But I think that I don't think that. 610 00:43:20,030 --> 00:43:26,550 Yeah, because we, because I remember discussing it because the one that has been there for the last two years, they weren't doing it. 611 00:43:27,490 --> 00:43:31,210 She jumped in and this other person jumped in to replace that. 612 00:43:32,030 --> 00:43:36,170 So we didn't realize that we thought these bagels was taking kind of taking that place. 613 00:43:36,950 --> 00:43:45,090 Well, I think they both were kind of thinking somebody should jump in, and I mean, I don't know, but it just seemed like one weekend, I'm on the next. 614 00:43:45,230 --> 00:43:48,410 Right, right. You think they could buy them what they'd like, right? 615 00:43:51,110 --> 00:43:51,590 Interesting. 616 00:43:53,390 --> 00:44:02,670 But we love these bagels because they're supporting us in the summer festival to help feed the artists. 617 00:44:02,670 --> 00:44:05,190 Oh, that's nice. Yeah, so they're great. 618 00:44:08,930 --> 00:44:10,470 That's such an interesting place. 619 00:44:11,870 --> 00:44:16,730 When they're donating for the youth mental wellness summit, they're donating some. 620 00:44:17,450 --> 00:44:21,950 They do a lot to support the community. Yeah, they do. And the farmers market starts this Thursday. 621 00:44:22,410 --> 00:44:25,290 Yes, it's starting up, you know. 622 00:44:27,830 --> 00:44:34,010 Well, another thing that I'd like to talk about on our next month or put it on our next agenda. 623 00:44:35,150 --> 00:44:35,610 I 624 00:44:37,790 --> 00:44:42,090 still, I would like to see, well, I guess I have two different places, two places. 625 00:44:42,790 --> 00:44:49,010 One is signage and one is that talking about that love locks again because we've talked 626 00:44:49,010 --> 00:44:53,990 about the city taking the locks off of the bridges because of the weight and all 627 00:44:53,990 --> 00:44:58,570 kind of thing from the bridges and putting up some sort of like a wire kind of a sculptor. 628 00:44:58,690 --> 00:44:59,630 Yeah, textures. 629 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:06,040 And Stephanie, our former commissioner, she had brought in some pictures and was all enthusiastic 630 00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:11,240 about that. And I was saying, I'd like us to come up with either a letter or a proposal 631 00:45:11,240 --> 00:45:16,640 or something to give to city council and say, we think it would be nice to do a love lock 632 00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:21,700 sculpture and maybe have a plaque that has Stephanie and Joanne staying on it. Something 633 00:45:21,700 --> 00:45:25,200 of, you know, and I know we named the creative endeavor grants after them, but I think it 634 00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:29,260 because that's huge but just a nice plaque and they were both involved with 635 00:45:29,260 --> 00:45:34,140 them. I think that would be nice but I'd like us to proactively say to city 636 00:45:34,140 --> 00:45:38,240 council we think this would be a good idea. And then also that big art 637 00:45:38,240 --> 00:45:40,960 installation that we talked about for the last two years you know the 638 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:45,780 medallions. So now it's in. So I walk by that the other day 639 00:45:45,780 --> 00:45:50,900 there's no sign that says what the name of it is. There's nothing and it 640 00:45:50,900 --> 00:45:54,540 would be nice to have something that says here's what it is and then to 641 00:45:54,540 --> 00:46:00,660 have a QR code that says here are these different discs and it'd be nice to give 642 00:46:00,660 --> 00:46:06,260 credit to the Arts Commission too you know where let's do that to show the 643 00:46:06,260 --> 00:46:07,400 involvement of the Commission. 644 00:46:09,940 --> 00:46:12,580 It's kind of like a rare if you're walking 645 00:46:12,580 --> 00:46:14,440 Yeah, I don't even know what direction it is. 646 00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,600 Yeah, it's that roundabout kind of thing over it. 647 00:46:17,780 --> 00:46:21,920 Yeah, it spins in and there's a little bit of a drive. 648 00:46:22,620 --> 00:46:24,200 But it's just you're walking down the sidewalk. 649 00:46:25,140 --> 00:46:26,340 Yeah, and then it's there. 650 00:46:26,620 --> 00:46:28,580 But there's no sign. 651 00:46:28,880 --> 00:46:29,600 There's nothing. 652 00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:33,000 It's just you kind of see it as you walk over it. 653 00:46:33,600 --> 00:46:36,560 So is it in the, yeah. 654 00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:41,920 So how to walk across the road to get to the middle 655 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:44,580 No, it's not about the sidewalk. 656 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:49,820 You walk right over it as you're just walking out of the sidewalk and voice along. 657 00:46:50,720 --> 00:46:51,040 Oh, yeah. 658 00:46:52,240 --> 00:46:52,820 Come on, guys. 659 00:46:53,160 --> 00:46:55,520 I think it's longer. 660 00:46:59,280 --> 00:46:59,840 Oh, 661 00:47:02,040 --> 00:47:02,040 sorry. 662 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:06,440 What budget does the lock thing come from? 663 00:47:07,020 --> 00:47:20,900 That's public works because that was their idea. They want to have something to put those lots up so that people don't think, you know, I love, you know, and I love it like we promote it, but just over here bridge. 664 00:47:21,080 --> 00:47:24,680 So they made a presentation to us saying that they would like to do it. 665 00:47:24,720 --> 00:47:28,960 It comes down to worker went to any further. Okay, that's even better. 666 00:47:29,560 --> 00:47:34,400 budget and work plan so your request to council can be that they prioritize 667 00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:39,700 that in the next work plan for public work. Okay. Did they get a proposal 668 00:47:39,700 --> 00:47:44,300 where they wanted it located? They were talking about well they would they want 669 00:47:44,300 --> 00:47:48,480 it where people are putting the locks and so the next one was like donkey 670 00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:52,120 creek and there's that kind of that space where they could put it. They 671 00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:57,740 also talked about the old ferry landing. Yeah, they don't pass there. But I think 672 00:47:57,740 --> 00:48:02,140 they just whatever one seems to be attracting the most lots is where they want it. But it 673 00:48:02,140 --> 00:48:07,880 and Donkey Creek seems like it would make some. Yeah. Yeah. Is there are there lots down in the 674 00:48:07,880 --> 00:48:12,220 old period? I think a few. I think they keep cutting lots. 675 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:15,940 Yeah. 676 00:48:18,930 --> 00:48:19,690 And every once in a while 677 00:48:19,690 --> 00:48:23,150 there's some posts and somebody goes I can't believe they're cutting the lots off of the 678 00:48:23,150 --> 00:48:25,970 Can we sign down there to say? 679 00:48:26,470 --> 00:48:28,070 Don't put your lost picture down. 680 00:48:28,070 --> 00:48:28,630 I mean, yeah. 681 00:48:29,070 --> 00:48:31,010 If we have a place with us. 682 00:48:31,010 --> 00:48:32,230 Yeah, once we get it. 683 00:48:33,310 --> 00:48:34,330 But sort of off there. 684 00:48:34,790 --> 00:48:34,910 Sure. 685 00:48:36,010 --> 00:48:39,670 And when there, you said there were examples of other sculptures that have been done. 686 00:48:39,690 --> 00:48:40,290 Yeah, Stephanie. 687 00:48:40,490 --> 00:48:42,690 And I've got pictures of her. 688 00:48:43,010 --> 00:48:46,590 One place, a big heart that was very nice. 689 00:48:46,730 --> 00:48:48,950 And one was like a fish kind of a thing. 690 00:48:49,090 --> 00:48:51,590 And yeah, there was some cool pictures. 691 00:48:52,990 --> 00:48:56,190 I'm sure, I'm sure that I, well, I'm sure I still have that. 692 00:48:56,550 --> 00:48:58,050 I wonder if you're my favorite. 693 00:48:58,690 --> 00:49:02,070 And I found that I'm not seeing this right now. 694 00:49:05,690 --> 00:49:06,630 Yeah, some of these. 695 00:49:07,350 --> 00:49:09,650 Again, I think, did you do this with the snakes? 696 00:49:09,970 --> 00:49:10,410 I have this. 697 00:49:10,870 --> 00:49:11,310 Oh, yeah. 698 00:49:11,590 --> 00:49:13,450 Yeah, I have your presentation on snakes. 699 00:49:14,010 --> 00:49:15,570 Oh, there you go. 700 00:49:15,910 --> 00:49:15,970 Yeah. 701 00:49:22,280 --> 00:49:24,400 Which I thought you did a really nice job on. 702 00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:25,100 Well, 703 00:49:29,950 --> 00:49:32,570 I have the proposal, but I don't have the pictures. 704 00:49:34,730 --> 00:49:35,570 Yeah, if you were. 705 00:49:37,490 --> 00:49:39,410 That was, that was for review. 706 00:49:39,570 --> 00:49:42,330 Oh, yeah, this was the two, she knocked Sam in. 707 00:49:43,470 --> 00:49:44,450 Oh, for my part. 708 00:49:46,690 --> 00:49:47,910 Oh, that's an incentive. 709 00:49:52,210 --> 00:49:54,590 Well, I suppose they did my scales. 710 00:49:54,910 --> 00:49:56,230 So, like, 711 00:50:00,280 --> 00:50:02,000 it was a frame, like a wire framework. 712 00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,020 And then, you know, just the open wires. 713 00:50:04,240 --> 00:50:05,160 And then you put them together. 714 00:50:05,360 --> 00:50:05,480 Yeah. 715 00:50:06,740 --> 00:50:10,440 I heard of members. 716 00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:13,140 This project started when I was in McKinney, Brooklyn. 717 00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:14,840 I picked it off. 718 00:50:15,640 --> 00:50:17,200 So this is what's there now already. 719 00:50:17,420 --> 00:50:24,450 So this proposal for this. 720 00:50:24,910 --> 00:50:29,170 So where is it? 721 00:50:30,030 --> 00:50:31,390 I'm a little confused. 722 00:50:33,590 --> 00:50:34,410 That's great. 723 00:50:36,600 --> 00:50:37,300 Public works. 724 00:50:37,300 --> 00:50:40,160 I'm for the same, I feel like it was two years ago. 725 00:50:40,500 --> 00:50:41,920 Do you think it was two years ago? 726 00:50:42,260 --> 00:50:43,160 Yeah, it was 2024. 727 00:50:43,980 --> 00:50:44,860 It was two years ago. 728 00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,820 Public Works, thank you to us. 729 00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:50,160 That's great. 730 00:50:50,580 --> 00:50:52,680 That's what they were thinking about. 731 00:50:52,820 --> 00:50:53,380 That was cool. 732 00:50:53,740 --> 00:50:53,900 Yeah. 733 00:50:54,440 --> 00:50:55,020 That's great. 734 00:50:55,380 --> 00:50:56,760 It almost looks like I'm on air. 735 00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:57,240 It is. 736 00:50:58,100 --> 00:51:01,060 Oh, I see because it goes. 737 00:51:01,220 --> 00:51:02,980 Quite a popular thing to do. 738 00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:03,520 Yeah. 739 00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:03,620 Yeah. 740 00:51:04,300 --> 00:51:04,620 Everybody. 741 00:51:04,740 --> 00:51:05,080 Yeah, sure. 742 00:51:05,220 --> 00:51:05,840 Lots of public. 743 00:51:06,200 --> 00:51:06,440 Everybody. 744 00:51:07,840 --> 00:51:09,220 Imagine a hair in Paris. 745 00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:09,820 In the middle. 746 00:51:10,040 --> 00:51:10,180 Yeah. 747 00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:10,440 Everybody. 748 00:51:10,780 --> 00:51:10,900 Sure. 749 00:51:11,340 --> 00:51:11,740 Yeah. 750 00:51:11,960 --> 00:51:12,040 Yeah. 751 00:51:12,840 --> 00:51:14,340 There wouldn't be wires across there. 752 00:51:14,500 --> 00:51:15,160 And then they'd hang. 753 00:51:15,860 --> 00:51:16,140 Right. 754 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:17,200 That's really cool. 755 00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:17,620 Yeah. 756 00:51:18,020 --> 00:51:18,720 Somebody else. 757 00:51:18,860 --> 00:51:19,520 I'm a little confused. 758 00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:21,160 So where exactly is it? 759 00:51:21,220 --> 00:51:22,180 They came to you. 760 00:51:22,520 --> 00:51:22,760 This is. 761 00:51:23,020 --> 00:51:23,140 Yes. 762 00:51:23,400 --> 00:51:24,180 So two years old. 763 00:51:24,280 --> 00:51:24,440 Right. 764 00:51:24,600 --> 00:51:25,360 So it's two years old. 765 00:51:25,540 --> 00:51:29,040 Public works was like, we think that, you know, we should do something. 766 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:33,240 we have some sort of a sculpture or something where people couldn't put their locks and we're like 767 00:51:33,240 --> 00:51:39,000 what a great idea and we kind of got some pictures together but then it's never it's not on their 768 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:42,920 work plan if it's not on their work plan and it's not on their budget and it's not on the work plan 769 00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:49,180 and that's that's where the hold up is right so would this be the work plan for 2027 yeah are 770 00:51:49,180 --> 00:51:53,540 they planning that now it'd be next year's work plan but I just thought the fact that they 771 00:51:53,540 --> 00:51:58,700 brought it up, not us. The fact that we have the two commissioners that were 772 00:51:58,700 --> 00:52:03,120 interested in it, that could put a little push behind it and maybe have them 773 00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:09,540 decide to prioritize it and get it done. So what's this? What's the step to 774 00:52:09,540 --> 00:52:15,200 reinvigorate it? I think that that would be also along the lines of 775 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:23,600 suggesting to City Council doing a letter or a memorandum saying that we 776 00:52:23,600 --> 00:52:29,740 recommended be put out there. Were they looking to our team to find an artist to 777 00:52:29,740 --> 00:52:35,520 create a design or what not to make it? Are they just considering it? A lot of ideas. 778 00:52:36,020 --> 00:52:43,860 Right. The first stop. Well I think what we've done what might be if I recall from 779 00:52:43,860 --> 00:52:51,240 this might be a bid for you or on Sonia, but they come for different things like the sidewalk thing. 780 00:52:52,200 --> 00:52:57,140 And I don't know if you were on council then when they first came for that one. 781 00:52:57,580 --> 00:52:59,860 To us, I was on council. 782 00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,720 You know, they do like the storm drains. 783 00:53:03,340 --> 00:53:03,520 Yeah. 784 00:53:03,860 --> 00:53:08,860 But then the actual getting it done is the part that doesn't seem to happen. 785 00:53:08,860 --> 00:53:14,120 You know, where everyone's enthusiastic, but then it doesn't get the place that I'm trying to judge. 786 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:20,520 We would, the Arts Commission would do a call for artists for them once they had it on their work plan. 787 00:53:20,920 --> 00:53:29,000 So that's what we did for the embedded sidewalk, some other projects, you know. 788 00:53:29,580 --> 00:53:34,580 So if they, if they are budgeting now for 2027, 789 00:53:35,820 --> 00:53:39,360 There are budgets that are going to be starting soon. 790 00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:41,280 Okay, so if we – 791 00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:46,000 Now it sounds like now you'd want to say, okay, here we want to do this. 792 00:53:46,660 --> 00:53:51,960 We could get a – I mean, basically you just need to get a bit from somebody on what you think the project will cost. 793 00:53:52,740 --> 00:53:57,820 And then ask them – then you need to say, yes, we have – 794 00:53:57,820 --> 00:54:06,720 And do a call for artists. And here's our created schedule, right? And I'm just saying, because they would give you the budget, right? 795 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:14,140 But I think what we need to do, you know, get them to put it on their agenda. It's just, it's not on their radar right now. Yeah. 796 00:54:15,080 --> 00:54:22,300 Yeah, that's why I would suggest either letter or memorandum to city council saying, we think this should be. 797 00:54:23,060 --> 00:54:26,920 Does it go to city council or does it go to city council and? 798 00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:29,100 Well, city council sets the work plans. 799 00:54:29,940 --> 00:54:32,920 So you'd want the, yes, council sets work plans. 800 00:54:33,340 --> 00:54:39,100 So I would write the letter to the council and ask them to prioritize that on the work 801 00:54:39,100 --> 00:54:39,840 and the public works. 802 00:54:40,220 --> 00:54:43,820 This would probably be something where you're coordinating also with the parks commission, 803 00:54:43,940 --> 00:54:45,020 because it's going to go into a park. 804 00:54:45,180 --> 00:54:48,280 So it might be some, there might be coordination between the commissions, 805 00:54:48,280 --> 00:54:57,340 But I think a letter to the council asking them to prioritize an art project is a good 806 00:54:57,340 --> 00:54:57,580 idea. 807 00:54:57,960 --> 00:55:01,900 Because then it would get it on their radar because right now it's just something they 808 00:55:01,900 --> 00:55:04,900 mentioned and, you know, they've got other things they're focused on. 809 00:55:05,260 --> 00:55:11,820 In the letter, do we offer suggestions as to what our ideas are? 810 00:55:12,340 --> 00:55:16,460 For instance, are we looking for a heart or are we looking, I mean, what are we 811 00:55:16,460 --> 00:55:23,760 asking them to do the budget for it? Put it in the budget? I think we're 812 00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:28,220 asking for them to put it on their work plan and then when they put it on the 813 00:55:28,220 --> 00:55:32,340 plan and say we've got this much money then we could start talking about who 814 00:55:32,340 --> 00:55:36,320 would do it and and what would the design be but for right now it's not 815 00:55:36,320 --> 00:55:40,940 even a rate of fashion and I mean we can you guys can put together a 816 00:55:40,940 --> 00:55:45,680 proposal or ideas but without knowing what the budget is what what 817 00:55:45,680 --> 00:55:54,340 councilor with the city's willing to spend on it? Right. But I think it helps to give them an 818 00:55:54,340 --> 00:56:02,800 idea of what it would cost. So I think, you know, we need to include that. Here's what it could look 819 00:56:02,800 --> 00:56:08,480 like. People don't, they can't imagine. So you're going to put these pictures in. 820 00:56:10,700 --> 00:56:17,580 And, but I think it would be helpful to say that this could be a $35,000 project, you know. 821 00:56:18,060 --> 00:56:23,080 I mean, when you put a sculpture in, to a public park, it has a lot of things that have that. 822 00:56:24,160 --> 00:56:30,720 So, but it would probably be helpful, don't you think, to give them, like, well, yes, $35,000. 823 00:56:31,160 --> 00:56:34,880 I guess I, well, if it were me, I wouldn't be talking money. 824 00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:39,340 Yeah, because we're good. It's not even approved. It's not even I would just say to them 825 00:56:39,860 --> 00:56:44,460 We'd like to see you move forward with this and have them put it on their agenda. Then they say 826 00:56:45,060 --> 00:56:48,880 It's 15,000 or whatever the whatever they put in that. Yeah, then we know 827 00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:56,780 So what is that deadline for sending them something? What is the budget? Oh, well, yeah, that's that 828 00:56:56,780 --> 00:57:00,840 I don't think I got it until next month. Yeah, you've got time. Yeah 829 00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:08,620 Yeah, why don't I do a draft on the letter and then I'll just that he gives us an idea something and then we can all change it out. 830 00:57:08,920 --> 00:57:10,760 Maybe you could send it around. Yeah. 831 00:57:10,820 --> 00:57:11,000 Yeah. 832 00:57:11,320 --> 00:57:12,440 Do a draft. 833 00:57:13,980 --> 00:57:18,620 But I agree. We shouldn't have some sort of semblance of what. 834 00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:19,860 Right. 835 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:21,720 We'll give you $5,000. 836 00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:23,480 Exactly. 837 00:57:23,480 --> 00:57:29,140 I think it's important to have a rough idea of what the cost would be because that will 838 00:57:29,140 --> 00:57:32,600 help them decide whether or not they want to put it on the work plan and whether or not 839 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:33,720 they want to budget for it. 840 00:57:35,700 --> 00:57:38,800 I know I've asked this before and I am so sorry, I don't remember the answer. 841 00:57:41,220 --> 00:57:48,100 That teenager that they were going to create a sculpture, does anybody know if that ever 842 00:57:48,100 --> 00:57:48,620 happened? 843 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:52,320 Yeah. 844 00:57:53,660 --> 00:57:55,300 So we didn't give them anything. 845 00:57:55,920 --> 00:57:56,340 Oh, no. 846 00:57:56,620 --> 00:57:57,720 We just had to get it. 847 00:57:57,740 --> 00:57:58,300 That was just your. 848 00:57:59,160 --> 00:57:59,600 Okay. 849 00:57:59,940 --> 00:58:00,140 Yeah. 850 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:04,060 I was just going to, I was trying to figure out some sort of budget that 851 00:58:04,060 --> 00:58:04,660 we might have. 852 00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:05,220 Okay. 853 00:58:06,300 --> 00:58:11,340 And then I also would like us to put something to the city council 854 00:58:11,340 --> 00:58:12,280 about that. 855 00:58:12,500 --> 00:58:16,700 I think it should have some sort of signage. 856 00:58:16,700 --> 00:58:18,080 or any QR code. 857 00:58:19,320 --> 00:58:21,300 Yeah, that seems right. 858 00:58:22,940 --> 00:58:25,740 But wouldn't it be cool if, again, if we 859 00:58:25,740 --> 00:58:29,360 had all these different parts and everything had a QR code, 860 00:58:29,540 --> 00:58:31,720 so you could go up to the website and you 861 00:58:31,720 --> 00:58:33,740 could get there's an app or something. 862 00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:35,580 So that's, oh, we're meeting this. 863 00:58:35,740 --> 00:58:36,660 It could be Harvard for the weekend. 864 00:58:36,820 --> 00:58:38,360 These are all the places we want to go. 865 00:58:38,820 --> 00:58:39,560 We're going to the parts. 866 00:58:39,820 --> 00:58:40,940 We're going to go to the local apps. 867 00:58:41,060 --> 00:58:42,840 And wouldn't that be kind of cool? 868 00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:44,640 It's a great idea. 869 00:58:44,640 --> 00:58:48,200 Yeah, the problem is that you have to have websites that the QR code takes you to. 870 00:58:48,420 --> 00:58:48,580 Yeah. 871 00:58:48,840 --> 00:58:51,660 So someone's got to create that website, maintain that website. 872 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:53,320 It's just an app. 873 00:58:54,060 --> 00:58:55,100 What kind of an app? 874 00:58:55,960 --> 00:58:57,900 Like, you would use an app? 875 00:58:58,520 --> 00:58:59,780 Well, we would create an app. 876 00:58:59,840 --> 00:59:00,200 Oh, yeah. 877 00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,920 No, that's way beyond this app. 878 00:59:03,500 --> 00:59:03,700 Okay. 879 00:59:03,980 --> 00:59:04,460 Capacity. 880 00:59:05,160 --> 00:59:05,360 Okay. 881 00:59:05,520 --> 00:59:05,760 Yeah. 882 00:59:06,420 --> 00:59:09,460 Yeah, especially, you know, maybe get somebody to volunteer. 883 00:59:10,580 --> 00:59:10,820 Yeah. 884 00:59:11,140 --> 00:59:11,560 Go on. 885 00:59:11,560 --> 00:59:12,960 Is there a parts page? 886 00:59:16,040 --> 00:59:16,920 Well, yes. 887 00:59:17,940 --> 00:59:22,520 But again, that was then, I mean, it can take you to a parts page, but that doesn't mean 888 00:59:22,520 --> 00:59:27,240 that it's going to have all the information that you want about the, that's completely 889 00:59:27,240 --> 00:59:27,760 different. 890 00:59:28,040 --> 00:59:29,780 Now you're at, yeah, you're adding work to staff. 891 00:59:30,460 --> 00:59:31,740 No, it's just probably not. 892 00:59:32,780 --> 00:59:35,720 So even the QR codes we're talking about aren't going to happen. 893 00:59:35,900 --> 00:59:37,080 It's got to take you to somewhere. 894 00:59:37,380 --> 00:59:40,560 And so who's going to maintain that website and who's going to create that website 895 00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:49,420 who's going to... So, the whole tiny sign sounds like... Yeah. I mean, I don't know 896 00:59:49,420 --> 00:59:53,900 other cities that have that capacity. I don't know if they do. I've never, I 897 00:59:53,900 --> 00:59:54,860 don't, I've never seen it. 898 01:00:00,970 --> 01:00:07,430 They have a walking tour. And it's like our signage that we have along the harbor with the pictures and the old houses and stuff. 899 01:00:07,530 --> 01:00:12,150 But they've got a QR code on each one of those and you can take the walking tour and just look at it on the phone. 900 01:00:12,450 --> 01:00:15,710 And it's great. And I think it would be pretty easy. 901 01:00:16,030 --> 01:00:19,250 Do they have a non-profit? 902 01:00:20,110 --> 01:00:20,930 I'm not certain. 903 01:00:21,730 --> 01:00:24,630 I don't know who does that. And I can take a look at that too. 904 01:00:24,850 --> 01:00:25,390 Where was that? 905 01:00:25,490 --> 01:00:26,510 It's great. It's endless. 906 01:00:27,090 --> 01:00:27,570 Edmunds. 907 01:00:27,570 --> 01:00:28,790 Kirkwood has one as well. 908 01:00:29,490 --> 01:00:31,790 I think I'm not Bellevue. 909 01:00:31,870 --> 01:00:36,090 But just every single sign, you know, the way we've got the signs already set up is that 910 01:00:36,090 --> 01:00:37,070 QR code on it. 911 01:00:37,190 --> 01:00:38,350 And then it's only four times. 912 01:00:41,270 --> 01:00:45,590 And it takes you like a city of Edmunds page. 913 01:00:46,270 --> 01:00:46,430 Yep. 914 01:00:46,930 --> 01:00:51,470 And it's all the different sites that you're seeing. 915 01:00:51,930 --> 01:00:52,190 Okay. 916 01:00:53,070 --> 01:00:55,270 And you don't know what department that's connected to. 917 01:00:55,270 --> 01:01:02,410 You know, I don't, but let me look into that. I wonder what that's, that's coordinated through. You know what I mean, right? 918 01:01:02,930 --> 01:01:03,710 Yeah, yeah. 919 01:01:04,850 --> 01:01:10,210 Or if it's staff or, you know, they might have a staff member who gets paid to do that kind of stuff. 920 01:01:10,210 --> 01:01:10,450 Yeah. 921 01:01:10,790 --> 01:01:11,830 You know, everybody set up differently. 922 01:01:12,490 --> 01:01:17,230 So, I mean, you should, you know, in some places, too, they have a Department of Tourism, you know, like. 923 01:01:17,390 --> 01:01:23,610 Yeah, I mean, they're, yeah, like, you know, well, that's most important for destination marketing. 924 01:01:23,610 --> 01:01:27,730 the chamber, would the chamber be up for something like that? 925 01:01:28,770 --> 01:01:30,110 Or is that more business related? 926 01:01:30,910 --> 01:01:31,750 Maybe there's more business. 927 01:01:32,790 --> 01:01:37,250 Well, they do, like for the last two years, they've done destination marketing. 928 01:01:37,850 --> 01:01:39,550 So visit Gig Harbor, that's all them. 929 01:01:40,610 --> 01:01:41,330 So, yeah. 930 01:01:41,790 --> 01:01:44,770 So they mentioned destination marketing stuff, the tourism stuff. 931 01:01:46,630 --> 01:01:50,090 So I don't know if that's something that they would... 932 01:01:52,290 --> 01:02:00,870 All right. Well, we should ramp it up. So, all right. So I'm going to draft a letter city council for love locks. Talk about signage. 933 01:02:02,510 --> 01:02:10,450 We want to expand the definition on the call for art. So, if anybody's got thoughts on that or wants to. 934 01:02:10,450 --> 01:02:19,150 I can, I can, I can, I'll send the report that I wrote for the brand new park, but I'll, I can again put a draft together and 935 01:02:19,150 --> 01:02:20,470 I'll talk about our, it's okay. 936 01:02:20,810 --> 01:02:26,010 And then if you want to narrow it down, you do want to think about another park or installation. 937 01:02:26,490 --> 01:02:31,310 Well, what I'd love is if some of you could visit the parks on that. 938 01:02:33,350 --> 01:02:35,470 Well, so we know what we're talking about, you know. 939 01:02:35,470 --> 01:02:42,130 And I'll, I can't remember on my report if it had actual addresses or not, but I'll 940 01:02:42,130 --> 01:02:43,490 check it and not have those. 941 01:02:43,830 --> 01:02:49,730 And then Tiffany, you're going to try to get the Creative Endeavor recipients their 942 01:02:49,730 --> 01:02:50,090 updates. 943 01:02:50,690 --> 01:02:50,790 Yep. 944 01:02:51,030 --> 01:02:55,010 And then next meeting, too, we can talk about just to kind of make sure that we've 945 01:02:55,010 --> 01:02:57,790 got events covered if people want to try to go to them. 946 01:02:58,110 --> 01:02:58,230 Okay. 947 01:02:58,750 --> 01:02:58,870 Yeah. 948 01:03:00,010 --> 01:03:04,010 Cover those so that we have a presence and can check out all of those things that 949 01:03:04,010 --> 01:03:04,750 we helped to fund. 950 01:03:04,750 --> 01:03:14,430 I'm kind of nice to be able to speak intelligent with him, but I don't know if everybody would tell me your name one more time. 951 01:03:14,730 --> 01:03:15,050 Laura. 952 01:03:16,590 --> 01:03:17,190 Sonia. 953 01:03:17,330 --> 01:03:17,770 Sonia. 954 01:03:17,910 --> 01:03:18,210 Deborah. 955 01:03:18,550 --> 01:03:18,730 Deborah. 956 01:03:18,930 --> 01:03:19,190 Suzanne. 957 01:03:20,070 --> 01:03:20,670 Carol. 958 01:03:20,910 --> 01:03:21,130 Carol. 959 01:03:21,930 --> 01:03:22,290 Robin. 960 01:03:22,570 --> 01:03:22,750 I doubt. 961 01:03:24,130 --> 01:03:24,610 Tiffany. 962 01:03:24,830 --> 01:03:25,210 Sonia. 963 01:03:25,950 --> 01:03:26,550 Tiffany. 964 01:03:26,910 --> 01:03:27,110 I know. 965 01:03:27,750 --> 01:03:29,230 Sonia and Deborah. 966 01:03:30,610 --> 01:03:31,210 Suzanne. 967 01:03:31,590 --> 01:03:31,890 Suzanne. 968 01:03:32,470 --> 01:03:32,770 Carol. 969 01:03:32,770 --> 01:03:34,710 Okay. Thank you. 970 01:03:35,090 --> 01:03:36,250 It'll take a little while. 971 01:03:37,290 --> 01:03:42,730 You know, I can memorize 30 kids' names in like two seconds. 972 01:03:43,410 --> 01:03:44,470 Do you want to do an extra? 973 01:03:45,670 --> 01:03:46,730 No, I haven't. 974 01:03:46,910 --> 01:03:48,230 I did it for a while for a little bit. 975 01:03:48,390 --> 01:03:51,970 I had an acting school in Los Angeles for 45 years. 976 01:03:52,550 --> 01:03:55,710 I ran for professional young actors. 977 01:03:56,690 --> 01:03:58,450 And I was talent manager also. 978 01:03:58,830 --> 01:03:59,270 Oh, wow. 979 01:03:59,270 --> 01:04:02,990 So I grew up in the entertainment 980 01:04:02,990 --> 01:04:05,410 industries. Performing arts is one. 981 01:04:06,150 --> 01:04:06,910 You and me both. 982 01:04:07,530 --> 01:04:11,750 I love performing arts. 983 01:04:13,070 --> 01:04:13,610 That's great. 984 01:04:14,250 --> 01:04:15,170 That's your bathroom. 985 01:04:16,270 --> 01:04:18,270 Oh, my bathroom is all performing arts. 986 01:04:18,590 --> 01:04:20,030 I don't know anything about art. 987 01:04:22,330 --> 01:04:26,270 My reason for joining this was 988 01:04:26,270 --> 01:04:32,530 was because I was going to get a little promulgable or even kind of, you know, community... 989 01:04:32,530 --> 01:04:34,430 We don't have a promulgable or anything. 990 01:04:35,750 --> 01:04:37,470 My husband has a good city. 991 01:04:37,510 --> 01:04:38,130 Oh, I know. 992 01:04:40,570 --> 01:04:43,330 I'm trying to, you know, I'm so a bit ready. 993 01:04:44,130 --> 01:04:48,530 We've worked much for an art channel, so you remind me of who's come to work. 994 01:04:48,530 --> 01:04:49,410 Oh, well, I see that. 995 01:04:49,730 --> 01:04:50,510 Nora is her name. 996 01:04:50,510 --> 01:04:51,130 Well, it's Nora. 997 01:04:51,250 --> 01:04:51,610 Oh, Nora. 998 01:04:51,990 --> 01:04:52,430 Yeah. 999 01:04:52,430 --> 01:05:00,590 But just remind me, they have to have their way, they're making some of things, and this is trying to find the hierarchy. 1000 01:05:01,130 --> 01:05:02,630 I mean, you said? 1001 01:05:03,270 --> 01:05:03,790 You said. 1002 01:05:04,570 --> 01:05:05,650 Oh my God. 1003 01:05:06,990 --> 01:05:08,110 All right. 1004 01:05:08,330 --> 01:05:17,330 So I'm going to say that we can still chat more, but I think that we accomplished all of our agenda items, and I think we can leave the adjournment. 1005 01:05:17,670 --> 01:05:17,970 Okay. 1006 01:05:18,330 --> 01:05:18,710 That's fine. 1007 01:05:19,110 --> 01:05:19,690 Thank you. 1008 01:05:19,870 --> 01:05:20,170 All right. 1009 01:05:20,170 --> 01:05:23,010 Thanks to me. Thank you, guys. Thank you very, very much.