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and all kinds of crap that she had there
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scrap like take it off scrap but we
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how like the road dips and there's that
vent you know like it comes around we

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can't see pulling out of our driveway
and ask at the meeting if it's Township

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like like where that line

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draws no that's I had to go take a
chainsaw to all of it

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but I was like I'll find
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bad

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so got a couple seconds

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[Music]
left ially that's

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what and when we're there we'll cut
other right you'll trim it in a little

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some typ practice somebody signed a
couple of these in blue and then

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switched

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to D you
Kevin okay I have 7 o' so I'm going to

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go ahead and call this meeting to order
please rise for the

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pledge I pledge alance to the flag of
the United States of America and to the

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republ for which it stands one nation
under God indivisible with liy and

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justice for

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all next we'll move on to roll call
whenever you're ready Sharon Thon here

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Chris
Jeremy sell here Charles stall here

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Kevin Miller Sharon long Kevin Miller
here Sharon long here Tim

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Miller Ted long here s RPD
here okay we'll move on to agenda

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amendments is anyone have any agenda
minut okay if not move on to visitors

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written requests I have received none so
we will move on to the minutes everyone

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has the minutes from August 20th in
front of them here once you had a chance

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to review I'll motion to approve

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minutes make a motion to approve the
minutes

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motion by Jeremy do I have a second I'll
second seconded by Tina any questions or

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comments all those in favor I opposed
motion carries next we move on to the

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financial report whenever you're ready
Sharon in the capital reserve fund

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starting balance is

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$123,456 total receipts of
$395 72 leaving an ending balance of

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$123,800 7 in the general fund starting
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$227,800
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47660 total dispersements of $
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6628 leaving an ending balance of

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$285,100 starting balance is zero total
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$1,866
127 little dispersements of

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$1,866 127 leaving an ending balance of
zero in the non-uniform pension fund

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starting balance is zero total receipts
of

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$2,450 120 total dispersements of
$2,450 120 leaving an ending balance of

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zero in the road bond fund the starting
and ending balance is the same of

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9,326 in the state fund the starting
balance is 168,00

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21021 total receipts of
$535 187 total dispersements of

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$3,216 122 leaving an ending balance of
$165,500

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next we will move on to the bills to be
paid everyone's got a copy the bills

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list here in front of them once you have
had a motion or once you had a chance to

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review I'll need a motion to pay the
bills I'll make a motion to pay the

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bills motion by Tina to pay the bills
seconded by Kevin any questions or

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comments all those in favor I I opposed
motion carries next we move on to

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Executive session um I do have a needed
for executive session to update on

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litigation however we will not need that
there will be nothing to come out of it

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so I shouldn't need it till the end does
anyone have anything that we need to

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take action on following Tim do you have
any need nothing tonight no okay we'll

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save what I have for the end then so
we'll move on to the solicitors report

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whenever you're ready

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timory were finalized I Charlie and
filed those on Friday so the demolition

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can be on that front um I talked to J
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about
issueing

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meile
know I guess at this point if I don't

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have anything by October I'm just to
start working on this myself the only

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reason I want this file is I think it'll
save considerable amount of time but I

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also don't want this dragging on forever
and ever um and iiz just a bit under the

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weather a little bit of stomach bug so
participating remotely apologize and I'm

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not there um I looked into some things
regarding the sarpd pension issues I

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want to talk to I have an attorney
friend I know who handles some of this

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and also reach out to SAR ping councel
on that as well and then I'll get back

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to to the to the board in in October on
it one last thing going to be on

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vacation from October 25th through I
think November 4th won't miss any dates

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or anything any meetings with with Gil
but I'm gonna be on a cruise so I

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probably won't be terribly accessible so
I'm GNA have internet but it's not going

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to be like a full phone internet package
it's whatever they offer on the grp so

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just kind of a heads up on that if
anybody has anything I'm going to make

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my paralal um EX access during that time
and if there's a massive emergency

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she'll figure out a way to get a hold of
go there that's about it

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tonight any questions from
anybody have any questions for Tim not

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me um I think you addressed it the only
thing I really have is just the pension

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um and you mentioned that you're you're
going to get with the sarpd pension

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attorney and get to that about know
weally have seven voters in place for

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for um transferring the funds but we're
still 4% short of the 75% threshold

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so and see what we can do there's any
other ways around this and whatnot but

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I'll let you know here coming
days from this okay and I believe Bob

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has a question for you
too I didn't hear what he had to say

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about the park he's just waiting on some
files from Jim pero Jim still hasn't

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found the files um

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he closed the file from 2002 years ago
and he still has it somewhere but cannot

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do locate it yet so

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what's and all summer long he didn't
want to go up there because it was you

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know 95 degrees for half the summer but
I've beening him about it so um I'm

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hoping by next month like I said if we
don't have any is going to begin doing

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this on my own much as I would like to
avoid that I just don't want this so

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dragging on any longer okay yeah okay
thank you thanks Tim problem anyone else

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have any other questions for Tim okay
then I will need a motion to approve the

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solicitor's
report motion to approve the solicitor's

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report motion by Jeremy do I have a
second second second it by Tina any

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other questions or comments all those in
favor I I opposed motion carries under

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old business we have discussion on
qualification um I don't really have

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anything to report on that the proposals
still sitting there on the table I don't

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know if anyone's had a chance to stop in
and review it uh it's more something I

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want to keep in mind as we go into
budget season I would like to see if we

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could look at it for next year but
obviously it's something we'd want to BU

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it for so that's the only reason I
brought it up now I'm not looking to

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take any immediate action on
it so I will make a motion that we table

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the discussion on
clarification till future meetings

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second that seconded by Jeremy any
questions or comments all those in favor

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I I opposed motion Carri do we have any
other old

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business I
don't

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Oklahoma vote
to hire a company to handle all their

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codification I'm not sure the same
company or not but we'd like get there

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pass it along yeah yeah I mean I I have
a feeling there's there's a few big

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players gener code American legal
publishing that's who it waser American

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legal yeah they're one of the big
players in it them in general are

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actually sister companies so you can
only go with one or the other for a

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proposal as I learned in Ford City um
but good to know I I would assume

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they're doing the same process of just
getting all their ordinances in order

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and getting them online yeah really
scatter over Place

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what're no that's okay so that is tabled
and no one had any other old business

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we'll move on to new business we have a
letter from Sharon long attention

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administrator followed by our MMO

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worksheet so that being said Sharon is
there anything you would like to address

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with

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this no I guess anyone have any
questions for me so just for

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clarification our estimated MMO for next
year our minimum Municipal obligation is

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$24,200 of the pension fund that is
before state aid nonuniform Pion sorry

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non-uniform pension fund to be exact um
that is before state aid so I believe I

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don't remember the last time we actually
paid money into it and then the pension

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fund is 3,680 so it's the two combined
is what we're going to be paying out in

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2025 yes so the regular pension fund is
the police pension

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fund so
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28,000 but for the most part I would
assume that will end up covered by state

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aid it has
usually but again that's nothing we

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won't know that until September of next
year so I will need a motion to accept

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the letter on the pensions from Sharon
long pension

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administrator for

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so the two together

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274 I'm asking I mean that's what I add
up yeah saying yeah if you're adding up

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the
2,254 and the

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3,680 that's our total minimum Municipal
obligation for next

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year for end of 2025

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motion by Kevin to accept it have a
second second seconded by Tina any

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questions or comments on
it all those in favor I opposed motion

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carries next we have trickortreat trunk
Retreat

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um I believe we were looking what date
were we preliminarily looking at Shar

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oob 26 what's CL last Saturday

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um so October 26 is the last Saturday of
the month um I did speak with someone

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from the park and there was nothing
going on in the park that day um Chris

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isn't here but um Chris had mentioned
he's like well do we want to do November

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2nd I said you had mentioned that I said
but it's

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like to me remembering back when I was a
mom and my kids were younger like after

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Halloween was over I was kind of done
with everything Halloween and the

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thought of dressing my kids back up
again and doing something didn't really

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excite me but that's not my decision to
make what day you guys pick so so the

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only other thing to keep in mind is the
26th I reach out to leeburg and see what

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events they have going on is their Trail
thing they are doing their pumpkin Trail

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however that is in the morning Sharon I
told you the times I don't remember 10

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to 10 to one I think it was or I think
in noon and then like we were thinking

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we did trunp Retreat start back right
off the end of that kind that's what we

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did last year and there was quite a few
people when they came up to get the

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dinners they were saying oh they just
got numed on the trail then they came

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right up there that's our best play cuz
you know if we wait from the every

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second I'm with you I think it's I think
it's like parents are

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done get out a bunch of places yeah
they're tired of even better getting to

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knock it out all one day go straight
from the trail up the Trump Retreat I

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think we just keep it to 26 I think
that's good what time were we thinking

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um we were talking possibly one right
Chris trunp

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Retreat whatever whatever the end of the
trail thing is trail ends at noon

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so I don't know what you
said that was the reason I

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was the date we said that you know
Saturday is the the trail uh the

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business Trail in town in leeburg and we
thought the best thing to do would just

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be the piggy back it off that so that's
like one of our bigger fundraisers for

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dog as well the unit
so a time that we can do so that we can

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generate
some people for

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the we we piggy backed off that years
past right did it work well yeah let's

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just do that I mean how much of a gap do
we want to leave between their event and

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ours really is the
question my initial thought was one to

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four I don't know if anyone onate 12 I
think so is Le something that you stay a

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whole time for could people beginning
and come and go yeah you're going from

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business to business getting your card
stamped so yeah they walk like basically

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the perimeter of the town hit the
businesses and then get like a hot dog

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in the fire

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station you probably could start it at
noon or even you could overlap a slight

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amount if you wanted yeah because if I
go home I'm not coming back out also

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another good parent point I agree with
you once I get that once we get home in

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s want over so you said the pumpkin do
we have are you so it's 10 to 12 is the

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pumpkin Trail that's confirmed the time
I I was to

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say just so we don't look like we're
stepping up if we start at 11:30 we look

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like we're stepping on their toes of
starting our event so let's just start

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at noon so that we're even flow straight
from the trail not getting in their

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way not stepping on toes to whatever so
yeah to three I think that's three hours

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I think that's about what we normally do
all right there it is three three you

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said four are we three I did because
talking about food

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wise I'm fine with

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before that thing

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that's indeed you got two meals in that
one Chris all right I know last year

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there was a lot of cars that ran out of
candies and then they kind of like

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packed up and yeah left now don't know
for this year to have more c gask yeah

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so that being said October 26 noon to 4
at the park de do I have a motion to set

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that as the date time and location of
our trunk Retreat make a motion that we

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set trunk retreat at the leeberg dilin
park for October 26

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2024 Jeremy do I have a
second second by Kevin any other

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questions or comments I'm
sorry no to four did it right that's a

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that's a strike strikes are back out
guys all those in favor I I oppose

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motion carries okay next one move on to
budget meeting date and time everyone's

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favorite time it's budget season um so
we need to get our first budget work

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shop scheduled either towards the end of
this month beginning of next beginning

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of next is better for me personally but
um we would like to do depending on how

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many of us you want here Chris K is
effectively gone that first until the

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second week of October second week of
October like through October 2nd 5th

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something like that he shared with us
we'll be yes let me find that he

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said last week of September and first
week of October he's gone and I'm Gone

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the entire last week of September too so
sounds like we don't want to do anything

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until the second second week of
October week October

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7th there's another meeting here at 6 o'
but it could always be after that we

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have our industrial development
committee meeting here first Monday of

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the month or not Mondays that's right
you have other stuff going on Mondays

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Wednesdays I know Chris said Wednesdays
are typically best for him too when

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schedul and
stuff Wednesday good yeah the night is f

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Wednesday the night
times looks good for everyone how long

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do you think we'll need for the first
meeting if you don't start until 7

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o'clock and it's going for two hours
it's past my bedtime so we got I want to

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believe it won't I want to think our
first pass should be a quick one um

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about six six okay with everyone six is
good okay night six o' October night six

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o'clock good with everyone Bud Workshop
so I need a motion to set our first

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budget workshop for octob Budget
Workshop general purpose meeting for

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October 9th at 6
o'clock motion by Kevin do I have a

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second second second by Tina any other
questions or

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comments all those in favor I opposed
motion carries next we have LSA Grant

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applications so first they were supposed
to announce last year's LSA grants today

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they didn't um so they most likely will
not be announcing them until October or

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November or if it's anything like the
last round January um but that being

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said the next round has opened and is
opened from September 1st to November

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30th so
probably in our best interest to try to

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pick out a project for this next round
of

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applications um out sanding we have I
think three Road

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applications a application for a new
Mower and an application for an addition

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on this building that's outstanding that
may or may not be awarded in this round

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of

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LSA so but if we would
apply before we know we could be

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applying for something that already
could get awarded that's yeah that's why

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I hate that they overlap this um but
that being said we could always Maul

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this over until next month we have until
November 30 at two o'clock so we have we

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have plenty of time yeah we've got time
to figure out project I mean if we're

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going to apply for one of the same
projects that's easy copy and paste from

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last year change dates or whatever might
be changed

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timelines even if we don't I've I've got
it down I've got a pretty good boiler

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plate set up for gilin just to
plug in the blanks

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um so just think it over I'm not saying
we have to take any action on this

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tonight but I just wanted to bring to
everyone's attention this is a grant

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available between I believe minimum
100,000 Max up to a million if I

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remember correctly um so mul it over
think of some projects non-matching no

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match money required for this one well
we all know my stance on free money we

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should go for all the free money but I
feel like we should probably wait until

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the next meeting to see if we by chance
know what was approved so that we don't

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duplicate processes yep I would agree
and everyone can think over if there's

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other projects they want to go for that
maybe we haven't applied for keep that

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in mind too so that being said we'll
just leave

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that on the
table I mean a motion to table the LSA

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Grant application projects make a motion
to table the LSA Grant

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application okay second motion been
seconded any other questions or comments

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all those in favor
iOS motion carries do we have any other

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new business just have a couple
questions not really like new business

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but just as far as the paving projects
as we go forwards when do we start like

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dialing in on the roads for the next
Paving season again and like saying

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these are the roads we're going to do I
know that's not like it's probably

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something that Kevin's talking to Ted
about and but when do we start picking

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those out I think we in the past we have
officially picked them

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in a

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March April March April the board has
voted on what roads we want to submit

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for Ping last correct I'm wrong the last
couple that we have done have been lay

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from the time before time before yeah we
do keep kicking kicking stuff down the

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road had a list
at yeah that I mean like aadd was it

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would it was something that we were we
had like texting a while back I have I

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have it if you could just be curious as
to like what the pecking order is

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because you know obviously we all hear
from our residents about what they want

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PID wor just trying to see you know give
them provide them some answers and also

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be involved in the discussion when we
get to that point mean but I mean you

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got to keep in mind too that even with
this grant um Le

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highs veterans is you know you got to
pay for that up front sure and then you

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get what a 60 60% reimbursed

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about that other question um and maybe
this as far as like who we contract for

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our Towing I was talking the reason I
asked I was talking to STS and you know

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they got set up to like put a fence up
did all this stuff according to so they

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could probably handle Towing I was
wondering that was kind of their main

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Drive behind it apparently Deans doesn't
want it there's no interest from beans

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as we use terries now is that correct
this is more this goes to the police

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force is I think but yeah the police for
agreement with okay so then this is

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something I can talk about with you guys
and I talked to okay so you're so you're

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aware too that that's something that
they would like to be considered for yep

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I'm the one that have him put up that
fence say he say he he set up and I was

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in there the other day and he just asked
if I could you know get the ball rolling

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on it if possible so so we can talk what
we um my thought process was is fill the

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void before what Deans it de all the
during the day okay um and then just

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it we have go back to the yeah that's
something we talk about in a different

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meeting for sure just those are the only
two things ahead back to the paving real

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quick what I'll do Jeremy I'll get out
the list kind of that I prepared of and

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it's not really I wouldn't call it a
Township list it's just I I every year

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send Ted my priorities from what I hear
that's just me sending Ted what I what I

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hear around the township um but I'll
send out what I'm what I've kind of

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worked out I also put together an Exel
Excel spreadsheet last year the kind of

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rated roads from best to worst um just
based on riding around gravel potholes

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Etc obviously that needs updated yeah I
just I just I just like to see if we

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have a pecking order what the pecking
order is and you know and just be

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involved when we start making decisions
on you know as to what roads are we're

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going to pay that's all well I'll get
that list out I'll get that Excel

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spreadsheet out kind of that I put
together take some any feedback that you

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guys want to give on I'll send it out an
email um and we can kind of take it from

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there perfect but yeah I think typically
April we we make those final calls out

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put the bid packages together you
have when James comes and figured out

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and you get an estimate as what his
projected cost is and then then you fit

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that into the budget because a couple
years

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ago do like four different things and um
it just kind of made it you know like I

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knew some of them weren't even going to
be Clos to a budget so it just kind of

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more of a mess than just kind of another
general question we keep saying like

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stuff get kick back so we're not
spending the

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money on the paving if the projects are
being pushed back and pushed back and

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pushed back well no it's just whatever
you kind of have like top one and top

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two but then something comes up and then
number three gets bumped up so it's not

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it's not a it's not it's not we have
money and don't have Labor problem we're

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we're we're getting the labor we're
spending the money yeah we're do what I

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was just say if we had if we had a labor
problem then we would need to look

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differently at it that's all we would
maybe need to like figure out how it

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meant that specific I thought I thought
we weren't able to like get the work we

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had the money we we hired the people and
they weren't showing up and doing the

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work it was something something got in
front of

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it I mean I get that okay like well last
year two years for example the quote I

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think it was two years ago now the quote
God for heill came in way over what we

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have budgeted sure and things like that
then you make an adjustment on what's

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going to go that
year any other new

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business okay move on to report zoning
report when your egg Jaren I didn't put

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one in your packet but this report
covers August 21st through September

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17th there were three permits issued one
sign one garage one carport for a total

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of
$83 okay do I have a motion to approve

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the zoning report I'll make Mo to
approve the Zing report Mo by Tina

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second by Kevin any questions or
comments all those in favor I opposed

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motion carries next we will move on to
the road report whenever you're

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ready road report for Tuesday September
17 2024 we CLE the trough drain on Le

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High Drive we did prep work on the lad
sh roads for the paving which included

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tree trim we did pipe replacement some
annual patching the payment was

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completed uh we did do some shoulder
backup on those two roads where it was

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needed I'm going to have to go back and
do more I just kind of did right down

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the spots where it was kind of sketchy
on the Ed where you had like a 6 in you

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know just deeper one spots the road kind
of narrower so I took care of those now

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but I will have to go back and do more
down there um we did help with the water

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authority with a water leak one day uh
went to the DC and North class uh we've

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been hauling uh way to our dirt roads
try Hill wonders Shipman Jack ra met

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roads Towers I have cleaned out some
portions of the ditches as needed

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basically we're fixing the worst areas
on those road right now to try to get

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you know to help them mainly because
I've been getting of you guys and from

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you know some residents have called so
trying to get that done before we get

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into the second round like that um we
did uh fix the shed out here a little

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bit it was like kind of Twisted the
doors were jamming up and they weren't

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latching so we worked on that uh Mory
finished painting the curbs and the

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lines of the office parking lot uh mowed
grass at the office and garages we

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removed some down trees uh did some
equipment maintenance AB Building

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Maintenance I did some administrative
work and I have um met with

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Gillette um and we've had had to make
calls and Sharon made calls about the

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utilities on that Evergreen Road House
um he is going to be working on demoing

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that Raymond Rally House this week and
so whenever the power line and all that

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is removed from the evergreen house then
he'll come

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that so that should be did you hear that
I already

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talked down I wanted to give people the
warning

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that SAR down there mainly him and and
the trons I got a hold of I had to call

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her um and just let them know you know
they're going to be down just it's you

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know there could be some

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inconveniences you said we work on the
we work on the shed we worked on the

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shed

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we okay got anything else for your
report that's it okay I think I got

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everything okay having heard the road
report do I have motion to

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approve motion by Kevin do I have a
second second seconded by Jeremy any

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questions or
comments all those in favor I I oppos

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motion
carries next we'll move on to

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Communications we have the minutes
Municipal Authority um this is for their

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August meeting which I believe I
attended this

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one yep um and going to the hydrant
maintenance there no hydrant

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mten they did have they did recess that
meeting then reconvene on the 20th and

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they had a workshop Phil was to talk to
me but never

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did
um and then

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they adjourned that meeting uh we do
have a letter here from FEMA under

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Communications this is just informing us
that our updated flood plane ordinance

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that removed all the restrictions that
were in the old one um is compliant with

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FEMA's requirements under the national
flood plane or national flood insurance

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program and it was just them Thanking us
for making sure it was in

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compliance any other
Communications we still meeting with

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them October 2nd yes
yes yes yes so I'll say that under

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calendar editions still good yes okay um
do I have any visitor

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comment py name and address for the
records yeah Chester A 116 Pine Hill

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Drive um did you just accept them two
partials down in

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Georgetown that lady wanted to give you
the property yes okay now do you pay tax

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on that no they're tax exempt right now
okay now you're going to tear that house

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down next to them you think you can make
a bundle and sell that to somebody

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that'll be paying taxes on it because I
can't see a playground or anything going

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my personal personal intention not
speaking for everyone yes I would say we

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try to fundle it because they're all
three in a row there yeah I would say

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try to get back the TA next to it even
better see if we can stipulate some type

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of building on it yeah that allows devel
maybe a small attack of baitman for the

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first five years you know yeah we
actually offer 10 well budy of M bought

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a building up in Ford City school and he
got a 10year tax abatement on it we

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offer the 10year alerta abatement so
that is that is an option for impr

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and the other thing I know you just
don't give a police report anymore but

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it would be nice to know what crime is
going on in guil and Township I give you

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we never hear we get the police report
at our commission meetings I can start

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bringing those me yeah yeah AB know who
[Music]

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neighbors okay any other visitor comment
yeah on the Raymond Road property

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one23 on that property going to start on
tomorrow I believe is that so what next

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we you going to put it up for bid uh so
I I was doing some research into the

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second class Township codes the codes
allow for two things one if we can get

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an appraisal on it and show that
appraises for under $6,000 we can sell

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it out right um if it appraises over
$6,000 we have to put it out for bid and

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accept sealed bids yeah so that that's
that's the next step after we tear it

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okay so well when will I find
out um it's hard to say I mean they got

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to tear it down so at least next month
we'll probably take further action on

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what we're going to do with that
property as far as getting an appraise

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for just trying
to like the number one interest

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understandable you have the most vested
number one party of Interest should show

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up next month is what I think
say Jeremy you've got more insight into

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this to me that little parcel you think
it would be a cze under 6,000 I would

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feel pretty certain you would basically
I would

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it's just be a bank
there that being

422
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:42,079
said if we don't if it's under if it's
under 6,000 we can sell it out right we

423
00:35:39,720 --> 00:35:46,520
have to just vote to sell it and and Tim
correct me if I'm wrong that's how I

424
00:35:43,320 --> 00:35:46,520
read the second class toship

425
00:35:47,640 --> 00:35:55,240
codes yes we do have to get it appraise
but we don't have to we have to have an

426
00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:58,160
appraisal showing under 6,000 and under
the second class Township Code real

427
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:03,280
property under 6,000
value can be sold out right um so have

428
00:36:01,200 --> 00:36:06,800
to advertise it or what if we have an
interested part we would we would call

429
00:36:05,119 --> 00:36:11,040
an appraisal an appraiser have them
appraise it as long as it comes in under

430
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:14,960
6,000 we have to vote at our meeting to
sell it to the interested individual um

431
00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:20,040
I'm just I'm just trying to help
interested individual that's kind of

432
00:36:17,079 --> 00:36:22,440
where I'm at to for that small Hillside
having to go through the steps of

433
00:36:21,119 --> 00:36:26,760
putting it out to bid and accepting
sealed bids and I'd rather us should be

434
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:32,440
able to just sell it up right so with
Jeremy's opinion would say I mean feel

435
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:35,319
because it is spending money and it's
not on the agenda tonight we can't vote

436
00:36:33,839 --> 00:36:39,119
to do the appraisal but I would say next
month we vote to do the appraisal and

437
00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:42,359
everything to follow and we'll have that
on the agenda next month so it would be

438
00:36:40,520 --> 00:36:47,119
two months before interested parties
could potentially purchase the property

439
00:36:44,720 --> 00:36:51,400
most likely yeah two two two months
about what we're looking at so the next

440
00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:55,440
meeting you'll vote on something that's
that's vote we'll vote to spend the

441
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:59,920
money to get the appraisal to verify the
property is valued under 6,000 then at

442
00:36:57,880 --> 00:37:03,960
the next meeting which would be
November's meeting we vote to sell we

443
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:08,240
would vote to sell it to interested
parties that might send a letter to say

444
00:37:05,760 --> 00:37:08,240
that

445
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:16,280
they well that's the law unfortunately I
mean had we we're faster than

446
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:28,800
statee great point oh hold on we're
moving faster we we picked up speed so

447
00:37:26,839 --> 00:37:32,720
Jeremy makes awesome point at our next
budget meeting it's also a general

448
00:37:30,040 --> 00:37:36,400
purpose meeting we can have an agenda
that lays out the option to advertise

449
00:37:34,359 --> 00:37:40,800
for an appraisal so that will move us
through I would say a month right so

450
00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:44,240
then by our next regular monthly meeting
we could sell we're back to selling it

451
00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:48,680
in
October make sure you're not on vacation

452
00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:53,920
smart
Jeremy estate I don't I don't like to

453
00:37:52,839 --> 00:37:58,280
buy it I don't like to sell it I don't
want nothing to do with it okay okay any

454
00:37:55,920 --> 00:38:00,800
other visitor com yes name and address
for the record

455
00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:13,119
please neighor
14 and um he has a vacant lot on Ritter

456
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:17,520
Lane and he's considering selling it he
asked me before he put it up for General

457
00:38:15,079 --> 00:38:23,040
sale if I might be interested I
contacted Sharon and told her my

458
00:38:20,280 --> 00:38:27,280
interest last month was I would be
interested in the property if I could

459
00:38:24,599 --> 00:38:31,440
build a garage on the setback and not
have to build a primary dwelling on it

460
00:38:29,640 --> 00:38:35,560
first it's not contiguous with my
property she said I would be best coming

461
00:38:33,839 --> 00:38:41,319
to this meeting and address the matter
in front of the board because it was I

462
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:47,000
guess it's not normal Z Tim did you
catch all that no I really couldn't

463
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:51,560
that's okay so this gentleman there's a
parcel nearby his home that is for sale

464
00:38:50,119 --> 00:38:56,440
he would be interested in purchasing it
to build a garage however it is it does

465
00:38:53,640 --> 00:39:02,560
not have a primary dwelling and is not
connected to his his primary dwellings

466
00:38:59,240 --> 00:39:05,920
parcel um so he was just under I believe
under the current zoning it it says that

467
00:39:04,280 --> 00:39:11,079
it has there has to be a principle
parcel or principal structure on the

468
00:39:09,079 --> 00:39:14,280
parcel and I think that's that's what
he's asking I mean what what are his

469
00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:17,280
steps moving forward a variance Maybe
orive

470
00:39:34,380 --> 00:39:42,400
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it does not touch it doesn't touch his

471
00:39:39,359 --> 00:39:46,319
existing parcel that's the pro it's it's
about oh I don't know 200 yards

472
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:58,640
away so he's he is not giving legal
advice but recommending the route to go

473
00:39:56,000 --> 00:40:03,000
would be a huge variant
to ask for the variance to use the

474
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:06,079
purchase the parcel ask for the variance
to be able to put a garage on it and

475
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:08,440
that comes out of our hands and goes to
our Z

476
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:31,400
hearing attorney on it I know people try
do these on their own a lot and they're

477
00:40:27,560 --> 00:40:35,800
there's a lot getting done so Tim Tim is
there a way we can simplify this on our

478
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:39,560
end as a Township to make it not so
difficult for our residents to be able

479
00:40:37,119 --> 00:40:39,560
to do

480
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:50,079
this so it's the zoning that's
prohibiting this from happening again

481
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:54,760
we're back to
that I said it's the zoning it's the

482
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:59,240
zoning that's prohibiting what the
building of a of a garage instead of

483
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:02,520
house on on a piece of property that
somebody owns or wants to

484
00:41:13,079 --> 00:41:20,359
buy that zoning like the back of your
hand what is there any piece of that

485
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:24,359
that allows for this like why do we have
to have a primary not that I could find

486
00:41:23,040 --> 00:41:31,040
um that was something that carried over
from our old zoning was that a parcel

487
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:35,480
to build on a parcel that an accessory
use which is a garage is considered an

488
00:41:32,720 --> 00:41:41,400
accessory use you must have a primary
principal use on the proper so how hard

489
00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:48,560
is it to make an amendment to that so
we're looking if I had to guess about a

490
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:53,240
two to three month process at least so
we have to I believe the way and I would

491
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:57,240
have to read the zoning to be certain we
propose it to the Planning Commission uh

492
00:41:55,599 --> 00:42:00,640
so there's there's two options there's a
land owner Curative Amendment which is

493
00:41:59,040 --> 00:42:03,880
where the land owner submits to the
board asking for this amendment but then

494
00:42:02,319 --> 00:42:07,839
he still has to pay for a hearing and go
through the hearing process or the board

495
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:12,800
can propose an
amendment to the Planning Commission and

496
00:42:10,359 --> 00:42:17,359
ask the Planning Commission to prepare
an amendment for adoption we have to go

497
00:42:14,680 --> 00:42:23,280
through um and
notify because this would be a change in

498
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:28,839
uses I believe it's just a general ad
notification similar to most like

499
00:42:26,119 --> 00:42:32,920
ordinance amendments um I don't believe
because it's not a map change we don't

500
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:37,040
have to notify everyone's surrounding
it's more just a general but you still

501
00:42:37,079 --> 00:42:42,640
have yeah we would have to have a public
hearing but this is something the board

502
00:42:41,839 --> 00:42:48,000
can
do and it would honestly go about as

503
00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:51,480
fast as a variance process in my opinion
if not maybe faster because for variance

504
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:55,720
you also have to gather the zoning
hearing board which is a separate board

505
00:42:52,760 --> 00:43:00,559
from us and get them all three together
and get that moving so variance puts a

506
00:42:57,920 --> 00:43:04,200
lot of work on our residents but this is
something that yes an amendment we can

507
00:43:02,359 --> 00:43:07,599
propose to the Planning Commission and
ask

508
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:12,240
them we don't and he doesn't have to pay
for it we can cover we we eat the cost

509
00:43:09,920 --> 00:43:15,720
of if if it is a board proposed
amendment and again I I have to read to

510
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:20,200
get exact but it's off my best
recollection and a board approved

511
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:24,760
Amendment the entire cost is eaten by us
or a board proposed amendment can I ask

512
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:30,079
followup absolutely yes does the current
owner of the property need to file for

513
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:33,440
the Amendment or does the future owner
well this is something we would do on

514
00:43:31,599 --> 00:43:37,480
our end to basically change the
regulations that would permit anybody to

515
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:41,920
be able to do that not just case
specific for you okay and then once that

516
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:46,040
was in place then I it would BR the
property up to build you know a chicken

517
00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:50,920
coupon it or a garage or you know
whatever you preferred on your own

518
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:57,240
property yeah that a little more
complicated than I was no there's yeah

519
00:43:53,440 --> 00:44:01,960
looks like there's two Avenues here yeah
thank you we could put a garage or

520
00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,960
apartment above

521
00:44:02,319 --> 00:44:11,480
it all a toilet in a bedroom you can
live there always a

522
00:44:09,079 --> 00:44:19,680
loophole that's not legal advice I'll
give I'll give you a

523
00:44:14,119 --> 00:44:25,079
builder um this tagging off of that
because we've had some other issues come

524
00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:30,440
up with some of the zoning things is it
each amendment is its own set of costs

525
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:34,040
we can do multiple multiple amendments
in one and that would be my

526
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:38,040
recommendation is let's come through for
some other issues because I I I would

527
00:44:36,720 --> 00:44:44,079
think that would be the most cost
effective route for the taxpayer that we

528
00:44:39,839 --> 00:44:48,520
find as many to do at once and not
be one there one here one there so the

529
00:44:46,880 --> 00:44:53,720
answer is we can get this fixed but not
as fast as you want Tim has something to

530
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:53,720
say for this too keep in mind what

531
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:59,040
Tim that's the biggest EXP

532
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:12,820
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[Applause]

533
00:45:14,079 --> 00:45:22,480
okay so whoever wants
to I mean I I'll I'll look for the the

534
00:45:19,720 --> 00:45:26,440
sections and I'll talk with Tim and see
about what wording needs to change yeah

535
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:30,400
everybody needs to look as a group we
should yeah look look through I'm I'm

536
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:35,880
speaking specific to what the section I
know um but yeah as a group look through

537
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:41,079
find some things I
mean bound to be some things we carried

538
00:45:38,119 --> 00:45:44,079
a lot over from the old ordinance um so
there're bound to be some more things

539
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:48,599
that maybe would want change that didn't
get done in the year and a half process

540
00:45:45,800 --> 00:45:54,040
for doing it but um so yeah come through
find what you can and we'll talk with

541
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:59,319
Tim and see what next steps are so well
I just I just prepared for

542
00:45:58,400 --> 00:46:07,960
a we and
AO ex I'm that I'll everybody there's

543
00:46:05,240 --> 00:46:07,960
some saved money

544
00:46:08,079 --> 00:46:15,200
already perfect thank you Tim because we
had a couple things that we wanted to

545
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:19,559
look at that kind of works well together
yep

546
00:46:16,359 --> 00:46:23,359
okay so we will do some research on our
end

547
00:46:20,680 --> 00:46:27,079
and I I I don't want to guarantee you
that it is something that will move

548
00:46:24,559 --> 00:46:30,280
through I can't make that guarantee but
it's something we're going to look at

549
00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:34,119
and attempt to
resolve that you'd be able to put a

550
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:39,920
garage on it without a house would be
the first property just a garage correct

551
00:46:37,559 --> 00:46:43,760
yeah but it would be a change to our new
zoning that changed well that specific

552
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:49,160
regulation I'm not sure if it changed or
not I have to check

553
00:46:45,480 --> 00:46:54,520
but okay any other visitor
comment just one followup on that would

554
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:58,240
I have to present some sort of a plan of
what it is I'm planning to put there

555
00:46:56,200 --> 00:47:03,720
right now right now there is no
obligation on your end this is fully a

556
00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:07,520
board proposed amendment the board will
do what it needs to do now when your

557
00:47:06,079 --> 00:47:12,200
time to build comes depending on the
size and everything you have your

558
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:16,720
building permits all that but yeah okay
any other visitor

559
00:47:14,119 --> 00:47:21,880
comment okay no mo want to calendar
reminders additions just a reminder to

560
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:28,640
the board October what I say October
2nd October 2nd

561
00:47:24,839 --> 00:47:33,280
at 6 pm board will be meeting with the
municipal Authority board here at the

562
00:47:30,880 --> 00:47:37,240
municipal building um in an executive
session to have some discussion on their

563
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:41,040
Futures and what they're trying to work
out right now any other calendar

564
00:47:42,079 --> 00:47:50,119
editions okay any need well now is my
time for an executive session however I

565
00:47:47,599 --> 00:47:55,000
would ask for a motion to go into
executive session followed by

566
00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:58,559
adjournment with litigation so I would
ask for that

567
00:47:59,599 --> 00:48:11,280
second immediately followed
by wej the meeting then go okay yes yes

568
00:48:06,599 --> 00:48:18,280
yeah okay I'm just that's my yes the
motion to adjourn the meeting then move

569
00:48:13,359 --> 00:48:23,480
to okay all those in favor I
oppose motion carries motion by Kevin to

570
00:48:21,960 --> 00:48:28,559
adjourn the meeting do I have second
second second up by Jerry Jeremy that's

571
00:48:26,160 --> 00:48:33,599
not Jer Al in favor
I oos we're adjourned at

572
00:48:39,720 --> 00:48:46,800
7:47 Yeah Tim will get to work on that
we talked about that last month Tim and

573
00:48:43,599 --> 00:48:46,800
I talked about that