[0:00] and you can go ahead and call the
meeting to order.
[0:05] » All right,
Dan.
[0:08] » It is me. Yeah.
>> Uh I would like to This is Dan. Uh call
[0:14] this meeting to order.
[0:18] What else do I have to say?
>> I will call roll.
[0:21] » Thank you.
>> Um let's see. Daniel Ilon
[0:25] » here.
>> John Kilstrom
[0:27] » here. Mindy Proski
>> here.
[0:30] » Andrew Wrathman,
>> Benjamin Hurt
[0:34] » here,
>> Kenneth Ingstrom
[0:36] » here,
>> Michelle Hstrom
[0:38] » here,
>> and um Lieutenant McNab is filling in
[0:44] for Chief Schmurber tonight. And I don't
see Andrew Labonte, the council liaison,
[0:50] but sometimes he signs on later. So,
um, if you want to go ahead, Dan.
[0:56] » Yep. uh make a motion to approve the
minutes from our last meeting
[1:03] » and I will go down the line. Mindy,
>> I'll make a motion to That's okay. I'll
[1:08] make the motion to approve the meeting
minutes.
[1:12] » Then we need a second.
>> Okay. And Mindy,
[1:17] » yes.
>> Uh Michelle,
[1:19] » yes.
>> Dan,
[1:22] » yes.
>> Ben,
[1:23] » yes.
>> John,
[1:25] » yes. and Ken.
>> Yes.
[1:27] » All right.
It's approved.
[1:36] » All right. Um, we have a new member.
Correct. So, Michelle Hellstrom,
[1:45] welcome. Do you want to maybe introduce
yourself?
[1:50] » My name is Michelle Hellstrom. Uh my
husband and I have lived in Gladstone
[1:54] for a little over 11 years now. Uh we
have two French bulldogs as kids and uh
[2:01] they keep us pretty entertained. So just
happy to be starting to get involved in
[2:05] my community.
[2:09] » Yeah. Thank you very much.
>> Welcome.
[2:14] » All right. Next order of business. Uh
it's been a while since our last
[2:20] meeting, but we are needing to elect a
new chair.
[2:26] Um and our meeting notes say and vice
chair. I'm assuming that is under the
[2:30] assumption that I'm elected as chair.
Then we do a new vice chair. Is that
[2:34] correct? Okay.
[2:38] Gotcha. Okay.
I nominate Daniel for president of the
[2:44] traffic board. chairman of the traffic
board.
[2:53] » Second.
>> And I'll go down the line. Mindy,
[2:57] » yes. Michelle,
>> yes.
[2:59] » Dan, you can't vote for yourself. Ben,
>> yes.
[3:02] » John,
>> yes.
[3:04] » Ben Ken,
>> yes.
[3:06] » It's official.
>> Can I elect someone for vice chair? I
[3:12] would like to nominate Ben Perk for vice
chair.
[3:19] » John Kilster, my second
>> and I'll go down the line. Mindy,
[3:24] » yes. Michelle,
>> yes.
[3:26] » Dan,
>> yes.
[3:29] » John,
>> yes.
[3:30] » And Ken,
>> yes.
[3:31] » Okay. You
[3:41] Okay, next order of business. Um, open
it up for roundt discussion.
[3:48] » Didn't we just do that?
>> I thought we approved the minutes
[3:50] already.
>> Yeah, out of order. Did that begin?
[3:52] » Yeah.
>> Mixing it up in the new year.
[3:57] » Oh, I did do it out of order, didn't I?
You know what? I was look I was actually
[4:01] looking at the minutes from the last
meeting and I think that was the order.
[4:04] I I'm sorry. You're right. I did.
[4:10] Okay. So, business from the board is
next on our agenda.
[4:19] The only thing I have is I know that
after we met last time, we shared that
[4:23] presentation on the traffic data and
chief member had asked for more
[4:26] information about
time of day, weather conditions and a
[4:32] few more things. I did not get time to
do that over the holidays to find that
[4:37] information. However, I did confirm that
it is available and so we can dive into
[4:41] that and pull that out. So, I'll try and
have that ready for next time. But, um,
[4:46] yeah, that's the status of that. I know
that we kind of left that hanging last
[4:48] time. So, I'll try and work on that.
That's all I got. I guess on that note,
[4:53] Ben, with you now being vice chair, I
wouldn't mind meeting with you and
[4:56] working on that with you sometime some
point before our next meeting and we
[5:00] could come talk about it at the next
one.
[5:04] Uh, at the last meeting I brought up
about the crosswalk at Webster and
[5:10] Oatfield that it's very difficult to see
if you're going from Webster to go
[5:16] northbound on Oatfield.
And I saw this evening two people almost
[5:21] get hit at that crosswalk
because the lights are both green. So
[5:28] the right turn lane comes up and they
have a green light instead of a red
[5:36] light or a red arrow like is on the
other side uh for the crosswalk there
[5:42] where that's always a green arrow and
when the pedestrian
[5:47] uh box is signaled it goes red. In this
case that light stays green. you can't
[5:52] see well because of all the the bushes
and the traffic control device. So that
[5:59] I believe that light on the right hand
lane if that were to be coordinated with
[6:05] the crosswalk light that may prevent
somebody from getting seriously injured.
[6:11] Like I say, I saw a car almost take out
two people tonight because they couldn't
[6:15] see them and the light was green.
>> Thank you. And kids use that crosswalk a
[6:21] lot um going up to Cracksburgger.
[6:27] » Yeah, I will second that. I mean, I take
that and my wife take that road every
[6:31] single day to pick our boy up from
school. and she has mentioned several
[6:34] times that she's noticed recently I
within the last couple months that I
[6:39] don't know if the signal timing has
changed but that there have been
[6:41] multiple near accidents with people
turning right and then off of Oatfield I
[6:48] guess heading eastbound turning left.
So I second that concern. It is one that
[6:54] I've seen as well.
>> Yeah, there's a little boy that goes to
[6:58] Cracksburg every day. He's probably
about 4 foot tall and pushing his
[7:04] bicycle across and you can't see him.
He's just disappears with all that stuff
[7:09] there.
>> I'm not sure if that's on the traffic
[7:12] safety the plan, but I'll mention it to
Chief Schmurber and have him see if he
[7:17] can check in to see who controls the
lights and and I'll have an I'll have
[7:22] him get an update for you next meeting.
I think when they did the paving that
[7:27] they said the lights were the control of
the county.
[7:33] » Is it possible to ask the uh property
owner on the corner to trim the the
[7:39] bushes and the there's a little tree
there to improve the sight distance at
[7:44] least.
>> Um I'll give you Ivonne McNeel's um card
[7:49] before you leave and she's our code
compliance person. you can let her know
[7:53] and she can go and check that out and
make sure that it's there's visibility.
[7:58] » Okay.
>> Okay.
[7:59] » Yeah.
>> Thank you.
[8:10] » I know the uh that crash report that Ben
provided um really flags out where the
[8:19] areas of concern are. And and I'm
wondering is is it our job or
[8:24] prerogative to physically go and look at
those sites and
[8:30] make recommendations or about what could
be done to improve the situation or is
[8:36] that more like uh something that public
works people or someone else would do.
[8:48] » You know, honestly, I'm not sure. But um
Chief Schmurbble will will be back at
[8:52] the end of the week and I will um make
sure that he knows about it and we'll
[8:58] get some information back to you once he
comes back because it could be a public
[9:01] works thing. I'm not exactly sure.
>> So my assumption is that we can make
[9:07] whatever recommendations we feel are
necessary. Yes. What we recommend may
[9:13] not necessarily
>> be taken into account and or done
[9:18] directly. And I mean that's where maybe
public works or maybe on the county or
[9:22] maybe on whoever is responsible for said
facility. But I agree. I think it if we
[9:28] feel the need to go out and check what
we see as a traffic safety concern, an
[9:33] intersection of concern and can come up
with some recommendations and ideas. I
[9:37] think that is the job of the board.
If you see something, say something,
[9:43] » too. You know, I mean, if you if you
just knowing that a lot of us drive
[9:49] around our town and we see things that
we're like, hm, that's that's not
[9:54] exactly safe. Um, this is the place to
to bring it up. You're also going to
[9:59] have I had somebody uh come up to me.
They knew I was on this board and they
[10:05] vehematly
started talking about the Abernathy
[10:11] Mclofflin
that and um and they wanted to know what
[10:16] they needed to do and I said, "Hey, we
know about that. We are working on that.
[10:22] It's actually in an action plan. So, I
hear you. I know what you're saying and
[10:29] know that we know about it. But so, you
know, but this is the place where we can
[10:36] if if somebody said something to me and
I was like, I have no idea about that, I
[10:40] would bring it here and and ask if
anybody else knows about it or I would
[10:44] go check it out myself.
Are are we stepping on anyone's toes if
[10:50] if we come up with a list of like well
we could do this and this
[10:55] uh you know I I'm not a traffic engineer
I think Ben is so like me you have some
[11:02] expertise but if we say well maybe if we
you know restripe this or or put some
[11:09] traffic calming system in or something
are we like stepping on public works
[11:16] toes or
>> no I would think I think the process
[11:22] like there's the process of what we do
and then there's a process of how things
[11:25] get implemented and I think what will
happen is our role will be to identify
[11:29] those things and I think what we talked
about last time is there's a up there's
[11:33] an update to the TSP that's going to be
happening which is the transportation
[11:37] system plan um for the city and as a
part of that
[11:42] » oh do you have it right that's it here
we go uh I think there's going to be an
[11:46] update to that and one of the things
that will happen as a part of that is a
[11:50] list of projects or concerns from the
city will go out to that and then based
[11:53] on that and what that whoever puts that
together says they'll say yes this this
[11:58] is an an issue based on the data and the
design here and this is a project that
[12:02] we would recommend and so that's where
those projects actually come out of is
[12:04] the development of the plan and then
there's a cost estimate and a schedule
[12:08] on how an implementation for each one of
those things there so I think it's
[12:11] valuable but how you see that to
completion is through that TSP P and
[12:15] then gets on that plan and then that's
how things get funded and selected and
[12:18] move forward from there. Does that make
sense?
[12:21] » So
>> I think also part of our job is to
[12:25] not lose sight of things that we have
brought up because they just kind of
[12:29] fall off the the edge of the table. So I
would see that we're also to kind of be
[12:36] the the naggers of saying hey this was
supposed to happen it didn't happen and
[12:42] is it going to happen? An example would
be Dartmouth Street. They talked about
[12:47] changing the way that came would slow
the traffic down. You know, they're
[12:52] going to put striping. They didn't put
striping and they're going to do this.
[12:55] Some of those things that we've talked
about, we just kind of need to, you
[13:00] know, be be the be the nagger sometime
about that if this is a a true concern
[13:06] then, you know, cuz, you know, yes, they
can park a they can park a squad in the
[13:12] church parking lot and, you know, try to
keep people to slow down, but that
[13:17] doesn't necessarily
register with everybody.
[13:24] So I think that to answer your initial
question, I don't think I personally
[13:28] don't think that it would be stepping on
toes to recommend
[13:33] potential mitigation or fixes to safety
issues that we see. Now I I think we
[13:39] need to come at it in a way that we
can't be offended if it doesn't happen
[13:43] exactly the way we recommend it. But I
think it is on this board to make those
[13:48] recommendations.
Our
[13:53] focus is traffic safety. So,
[13:58] » what's the best way to build a list? I
mean, I think maybe we start off if
[14:02] there's because I think we bring up a
couple different places every time we
[14:06] meet, right? And then they, like you
said, they fall off the table, right?
[14:09] So, maybe a place to start on that is
like after this, if you guys have
[14:13] something between now and the next
meeting, just email it out to the group.
[14:16] Hey, here's a location, right? We build
that list from there. And then when we
[14:20] have that opportunity to talk to
whoever's doing the TSP, we can bring
[14:24] those to the attention of that. Whether
the chief does that or whether that we
[14:27] do that through that conversation, I
think it's important to start building
[14:30] that list for ourselves to remember
these places. So maybe that's our
[14:34] homework for next time is just send out
an email, put together a list or an
[14:38] Excel spreadsheet of the places and
locations or something like that and we
[14:42] can fill that out. I completely agree
and I I would be totally willing to
[14:49] organize that list and build a
spreadsheet because I I I'm kind of the
[14:53] same as you. I we have the the meeting
minutes now. That's kind of at up to
[14:57] this point our record of what we've
talked about and and areas of concern
[15:02] that have been brought up in the past,
but I'd love to keep a running table
[15:07] spreadsheet of concern locations that
this board has brought up. maybe track
[15:11] what has been done or hasn't been done
and have that at our ready for each of
[15:16] these meetings. So, um, yes, please
each, if you've got a list of and and
[15:21] I'll go back through the notes. I can
start to build this list based off of
[15:24] our previous notes, but I'd love for you
to send me an email and send it to the
[15:29] group and I can start building that
table.
[15:40] uh just go back the chief mentioned last
time the traffic uh plan and that there
[15:45] is a grant that's going to be coming I
guess to work on this. So um I would say
[15:52] probably because of uh the interest uh
from the chief and our responsibility
[15:59] that probably should be reviewing this
and see what's been accomplished on the
[16:06] plan. um things that are still open and
can they be done with in a time frame
[16:15] and a amount of money that's available.
A lot of this stuff it's
[16:21] it's too expensive and the prices keep
going up. But this is the hard copy.
[16:28] It's a lot of pages and it covers a lot
of stuff and it's amazing what you'll
[16:32] find in there has already been proposed
that we might think of.
[16:40] Where'd you get that? Oh,
>> it's online.
[16:45] » So, I have the traffic safety plan on a
flash drive or you can find it on the
[16:49] city's website. I believe it's on the
public works page and you can just open
[16:55] it up from there, too. So,
>> okay, sounds good.
[16:58] » If you want a flash drive or if you need
me to print it, whatever you need, just
[17:01] let me know.
>> Okay, cool.
[17:04] » Sounds like some more homework. Yeah,
>> some late night reading.
[17:06] » Everyone going to stay up the tsp.
[17:12] » Thanks for bringing that up, Ken. It's a
good call to action.
[17:23] Okay. Uh, any other roundt discussions?
Oh, wait, hold on.
[17:30] I was looking at the wrong one again. I
guess any other business from the board
[17:34] and then we'll open it up to round table
discussion.
[17:39] Nope.
I guess it's open to round table
[17:42] discussion.
[17:45] » I agree. That kind of felt like a round
table discussion.
[17:50] » There are no other items. Uh let's move
on to the police department updates.
[17:58] I
>> think you all have in front of you the
[17:59] 20 25 yearin stats. Does anyone have any
questions regarding those statistics?
[18:05] Oh, they don't. Oh, okay. Sorry. I
thought that was in your packet. Um, I
[18:09] guess I'll read them off to you here.
So, uh, from 24 to 25,
[18:15] traffic accidents that involved injury
were they remained steady. There was a
[18:20] 0% increase. Traffic accidents with
property dam damage were up almost 20%.
[18:27] Hit and runs were down about 9%.
Uh traffic stops were down about 4%. Uh
[18:36] citations were down about 10 11%. Um
parking citations were up a percent and
[18:43] DUIs
were up about 6%.
[18:52] » Just to confirm that was 2024 to 2025.
>> It was. Yes. Anyone
[18:59] have any other questions?
>> And that's in the monthly report on the
[19:03] statistic page.
[19:11] » That's all I got.
[19:16] Thank you.
[19:19] Any
[19:24] I guess questions, comments from the
board for chief.
[19:31] » Did you guys have any questions on the
monthly report for uh public works or
[19:35] the police department?
[19:39] The only thing I noticed was the
domestic disputes that almost 100%
[19:45] increase in in those
>> from 135 to 23. That's a big increase.
[19:53] It happens.
[20:08] Okay. No other questions or comments.
We'll move on to Is there anyone from
[20:13] the community on the call?
Okay.
[20:17] » Nope.
>> Yes. I will say last call for comments
[20:23] from the board, questions from the
board. Otherwise, I
[20:28] » move to adjurnn.
>> Motion to
[20:30] » motion to adjurnn.
>> Did somebody else second it?
[20:35] I second it.
And I'll go down the line.
[20:39] » Yes.
>> Michelle,
[20:42] » yes.
>> Daniel,
[20:43] » yes. Ben,
>> yes. John,
[20:45] » yes.
>> Yes.
[20:47] » Meetings adjourned.