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Yes, it's been off since I got here.
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See,
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» But if [laughter] I break it then,

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» as you hit go, we're good.
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» All right, let's call this meeting to
order. [clears throat] We'll start by

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the pledge led by our chief of police
and then we're going to have prayer by

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pastor Andy Freick.
>> Please join me in the pledge. I aliance

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to the flag of the United States of
America and to the republic for which it

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stands. One nation under God,
indivisible with liberty and justice for

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all.
>> Would you pray with me?

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Father, your word reminds us that we are
not our own. We've been bought with a

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price
and that price includes

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looking out for you, taking care of your
work, and looking out for each other.

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We ask that that would be the spirit
that would guide the session tonight.

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That we would look for that which is
best for and in one another.

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May everything done tonight be pleasing
to you. And I pray this in Jesus name.

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Amen.
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» was a beautiful prayer, pastor. Thank
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» All right. Would you please do a roll
call, please?

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» Crawford.
>> Yes.

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» Jamie,
>> yes.

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» Michael Smith,
>> yes.

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» Darlington,
>> yes.

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» Gutierrez, Linda Wowski,
>> Plat?

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» Yes.
>> Thank you. We have approval of minutes

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from August 17th, both regular and
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» Do you want to table that one?
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» Yep. Uh we'll table the closed session
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have 20 August 20th committee of the
full minutes. Without the closed

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session, would someone make a motion to
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offer uh with the suggestions for
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I'll make that offer to um approve as
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» Thank you. Is there support?
>> Support.

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» Thank you. We have a motion to support
to approve minutes of August 17th

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regular session as well as August 20th
committee of the whole meeting. Any

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further questions or comments?
>> Hearing none. All in favor, please

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motion by saying I.
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» All oppose, please say nay.
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Council person, anything you'd like to
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questions. I I didn't know
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pay quarterly for our copy machine
copies. It was just a large amount that

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I was kind of concerned about. That's
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that's fine. And then there was

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oh and I saw this large amount going to
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leas in Vanderbreak and it was our
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that's going to be going in soon.
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They didn't know what that entailed, but
it was the DPW had to have a weed

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whacker and that was not a huge. Let's
see. [clears throat]

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And there was Oh, Lexiple. I didn't have
a clue what that was. I should have

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probably, but um it's a yearly fee for
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That's about all I had tonight. Thank
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» Angela. Well, is there anything you
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questions?
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page four, you'll be able to see the
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Company, the 50% payment. That is the
grant that the airport received as a

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reimbursement. So, we did receive 50% of
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for both of those items. Thank you. Does
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someone make a motion to approve the
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» I'll make that motion.
>> Thank you. Is there support?

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» Thank you. Do you have a motion to
support to approve the warrants? Any

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further questions, comments, or
concerns? Hearing none. All in favor,

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please motion by saying I.
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» All oppose, please say nay. Thank you.
Uh, we'll go to the hearing of our

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delegations. Commissioner Donaldson,
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» Hi.
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» Hello, everybody. It's weird timing
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this morning. Usually, I'm coming a week
or so after those meetings, so it's

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good. It's fresh fresh off the the
press. Um, so this morning we passed uh

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we moved ahead our our master plan for
the county and what that means is it

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starts 63day review period. So everybody
is encouraged to get a copy of that.

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There's digital copies or if you go to
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of it. U review it. This is the 63day
review window. And when we passed it as

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a resolution we allowed ourselves to
have final approval after the 63 days.

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So after 63 days if we're not uh in
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the plan, we have that ability to
not pass it at that point too. Um had

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somebody from the company
[clears throat] was there today that

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answered a lot of the questions we had
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point to to move that along. So that
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» can I ask a question for those of us who
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this is very important. What are the
highlights that that are in that plan

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that would get us to go to the
courthouse, go online and find it?

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» The the master plan really sets for the
next 20 years kind of the vision for the

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county and where we want to be. A big
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going to be. There's a big land use map.
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meeting that occurred at the arena, they
had the big giant map of all the

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different areas of the proposed. It
really it shrank some of our industrial

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areas. It it allowed for more different
things. It really cleaned up a lot of

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the areas throughout the county that um
we're and that sets it for the next 20

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years. It's a living document like
anything we could change. It's more of

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the big 20,000 foot view of what what
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county wants to be. A big part of that
is preserving. Big part in that plan is

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preserving. Uh a lot of the questions we
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data centers and I was really pleased
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specifically. Um in our land use map in
that plan there's a land use map that's

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proposed um there's a purple area that
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was that if there is a data center in
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have we have to allow for illegal use of
things in our plan and the way it's

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proposed is that it has to be within
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the planning commission and zoning we
pass our zoning ordinances and planning

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and they make changes to it from that
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that's where that is. So, I felt really
pleased hearing hearing that. There's a

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lot of questions surrounding that that
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» One more question. Has the county made a
social media post? I have not seen

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anything about I mean, I have, you know,
the previous meetings and stuff. Is

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there are they planning a social media
post? Is it link that we might be able

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to share in our
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social media. Our website's good. We had
a revamp to our website and that's good,

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but social media isn't our strength.
I'll be honest. I wish it was better. I

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wish we had more avenues for things, but
it's it might be on the website. I think

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the master plan draft if it isn't should
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» It is
>> or if we call Okay, we will email it the

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copy.
>> Kimberly has a question.

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>> Um just a question. I was going to look

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this up before I got here and um so what
is the city's role in that? Because we

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have our own separate master plan. So,
normally what it'll do is it'll go off

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for 63 days and then people can comment
from townships and build or we villages

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um and cities. Do we have to sign off on
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our own or no?
>> I don't think so. I think residents can

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because you're residents of the county
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I don't believe there's a staff. I think
they'll [clears throat] probably what we

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got today is stakeholders will get
copies of that. So, I'm hoping they send

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that out to cities, townships,
big companies that have a vested

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interest in that. But I encourage
everybody to read it. I really like uh

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one thing that was said today is most
counties and cities that have a master

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plan, they get it, it's beautiful, it's
nice, and then they put it on a shelf

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and say, "There's our master plan." And
it sits there for 20 years until it's

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time to redo it. So, I really I want to
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we can continue to use because it really
is kind of that guiding force of where

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we want to be. And in 20 years,
hopefully I'm still around and we can

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look back and say, "Hey, we we didn't
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because now in 2046, these are our new
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» Thanks."
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think there are still a lot of
corrections that need to be happening

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and some updates that are in there, but
not big picture things. It's a lot of

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details that I don't think they got all
the way correct that I'm going to work

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with them and do that. Some spelling
errors, some different things. One of

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the things said 46% of Gladwin
residents, Gladwin County residents have

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curbside trash and I thought that I
don't think that's correct. I think it's

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a lot higher number than that. Um, so
some things like that that are more

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demographic that I need I needed to see
updated that we'll look through and

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that's what the 63 day window is for.
>> Um, I just had a question because you

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said um for the data centers they have
to go in the industrial part. Does

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Gladron County have an industrial like
like we have an industrial area but

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where's the county industrial?
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industrial. So there's spots in
Beaverton, there are spots in I have the

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map. We can
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designated spots already where it's
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» And we can always make more. So there's
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the proposed map, but if the planning,
zoning, county, cities, whoever wanted

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to revitalize and have an bigger
industrial zone, there's a way to change

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whatever land to an industrial zone, but
the way it's proposed right now is on

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that map. So then the other question I
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there's a data center a data center here
in Michigan that this man has owned for

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quite a while and I don't understand the
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uses water and the other one does not.
Can you if we have data center if we end

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up you know somebody trying to come here
can you make it where they can't use the

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water and they have to do it the other
way is that a possibility or do they get

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to pick because I know you can't tell
them no it can you say no you can't use

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the water one you have to use this other
way that they do it without the water is

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that possible
>> so I've had that same question and the

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answers I've gotten have kind of varied
water use is more of a state issue and

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from drill wells it's a state manages
that. So our friends from fleets and

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vand nodding along, so correct me.
>> No. Yeah, you're right there.

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» Yeah. So it's not really that we have
local control to say you have to. There

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are state incentives right now that any
data centers who put in get an extra

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economic boost if they tie into
municipal water sources. So that's where

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a lot of them are incentivized to do
that right now. Doesn't help that our

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residential or our municipal water
sources all come from wells to begin

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with and and whether we have the
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day or more of water use that would be
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to
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because I read an article the other day
in the water use was a cheaper option

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for cooling
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go without the water. Yes, that's what I
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» I literally watched a council meeting
where this guy went into his community

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and he said, "I own a data center and
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This is going to destroy our community."
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glycol and some use recycle the water
and pull it. There's a million different

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things and we are so early in the
development of it that we just don't

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know a lot of those answers.
my understanding that there's an

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incentive [clears throat] for the
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at this point. And I don't know how the
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both either of our cities in the county
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an industrial source.
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» Good question. Any more questions on
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Um after we did the county also um
approved we're going to hire an HR

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consultant for HR training and
mentorship Laura Brandon Mabel. Um she

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was approved um I don't know the hours 8
to 10 hours I don't remember

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» 18 hours I think
>> 18 hours certain hours per week that

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she's going to come back and help in a
consulting world. you don't need to do

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that. Um, kind of update our policies,
look at different mentorship things in

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HR especially. Um, so I'm really pleased
for that. Glad we were able to to do

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that and bring her experience for that.
Um, after the meeting, we had a two and

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a half hour budget meeting. So, that was
fun to go through budget. We got to hear

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from different uh department heads and
all around from the county and and look

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at our budget as we we look forward.
We're going to do that again after our

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next commissioner's meeting. So, anybody
interested in the county budget, come uh

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to our next meeting on the 22nd. I think
it's two Tuesdays from now and stay

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after and hear all about your county
budget.

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» Where's that held at?
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office, third floor of the courthouse.
And then I will be leaving at 5:45. We

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have a county parks pl uh meeting
tonight um where we are going to discuss

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our parks master plan, which we have
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excited to work with them and to kind of
have a new parks plan too. So really

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appreciate the input that we've gotten
from people who are involved in that and

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I really enjoy because my only
experience with working on the parks

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master plan was the city of Gladwin's
park master plan. So I kind of know a

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good idea of how that works. So really
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to have that um go forward. I don't know
if I if I gave this update last time um

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before the lodge, the sportsman's club
lodge and recreation area, whatever you

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want to call it, we did have uh somebody
who was helping run that for us. We she

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got busy with a new job, so we
transferred that. Um so our new uh I

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don't know what we're calling manager of
the facility is Trisha Laroo. you know,

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Trisha, she's around. She's the head of
the L Sports Complex, really involved in

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the in the area. Really excited. There's
some good events coming up. There's a

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shuderie class that's coming up in a few
weeks out there. The Council of Local

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Government meeting is going to be out
there in a few weeks, and they're doing

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a an archery, a 3D archery shoot out
there, which is pretty cool. Coming up

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in a in a few weeks as well. So, a lot
of good things to come out there.

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» Does any have other questions for the
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Thanks.
>> Thank you.

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» Uh Chief Alward, do you would you like a
moment for a delegation?

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» Friday
at 8:45 at the fire station, there's

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going to be a ceremony in commemoration
of the issue that took place on 911

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that there and a short presentation. So,
everyone's invited.

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» Thank you.
>> 8:45 Friday morning that's when it

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starts approximately.
>> And Lori as the housing director, would

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you like to add anything now? I know
you're later on the agenda as well.

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» No, it's been very very busy. Um, we not
only do housing, we also do the Council

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on Aging Services and we also do the
Glad City County Transit. We're the

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managing agent for them. So, we employ
106 employees um all within basically

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within Gladin County and stuff. Um, we
got 24 buses on the road.

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We've got 192 units of public and
section 8 housing that keeps us going.

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We have all the senior services and home
delivered meals. Um, Monday we will be

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taking possession of the [clears throat]
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Um, Consumers Energy through their MI
Power program nominated the Council on

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Aging to receive this gift, this huge
gift. It's like $75,000

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and they put in the charging station.
So, we will be um taking possession of

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that Monday
>> and yeah, a lot of exciting new things

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going on.
>> Congratulations.

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» Thanks.
>> Thank you. [clears throat] At this time,

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we'll establish our agenda. I would like
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business up to make it 3A to make the
first thing on our agenda so that um our

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beloved Lori um can get through here.
And then the other thing is if you look

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at item I
there was just a tiny little error. Uh

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if you could just erase fleece and
Vanderb contract that was just an error.

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Other than that everything else stays
the same. Are there any other proposed

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changes to the agenda?
Hearing none, would someone offer a

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motion to approve the agenda with the
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» I will motion.
>> Thank you. I have a motion and support.

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» Uh [clears throat] any further
questions, comments, or concerns?

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Hearing none. All in favor of approving
the agenda as with small alterations,

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please motion by saying I.
>> I.

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» All oppose, please say nay.
>> Thank you. We have our consent agenda.

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Uh we have our communications from
charter communications. The glad 911 uh

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event that uh we just heard from our
chief. The monthly library activity

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always interesting DDA authority meeting
minutes uh meeting minutes from our fire

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protection district airport commission
meeting minutes. The trail authority and

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then our report from our chief. Are
there any questions or anything that

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someone would like to take out of the
consent agenda to discuss?

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Hearing none. Would someone approve the
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» Great. Is there support?
>> Support.

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» Thank you. We have a motion to support.
Any further questions, comments, or

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concerns?
Hearing none. All in favor, please

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motion by saying I.
>> I.

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» All oppose, please say nay.
Thank you. At this time, I got to write

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to this down. We will move into public
comment. Uh, this is the time on our

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agenda codified in the law for the
public to engage. Anyone is welcome to

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share their thoughts, praises, concerns,
questions. We do ask for civility and

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please address me as chair. We have a
threeminute max and for the most part

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there won't be a back and forth but city
staff if possible will follow up.

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[clears throat] Is there anyone here for
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» Okay.
>> I just is basically just to to notify

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you um the council that our recall
position language was approved. So we

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will be moving forward with that. Thank
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» Any other public comment?

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» Just as a quick side note, one thing we
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comes to these data centers,
industrialization or other things that

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might be coming to our county, obviously
we need to allow for growth. We need to

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allow for the ability for businesses and
economic opportunity in our county. We

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can't just obviously in the 21st century
rely solely and exclusively on

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agriculture, although people do need to
eat. So, it's kind of a good idea to

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kind of keep most of that intact
because, you know, we're always going to

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need food to stock the shelves. So, we
need to keep that in mind. We also have

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to keep in mind that science has made
many advancements and stuff. And these

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people were saying these data centers
need over 100,000 gallons of water. I

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don't know if they haven't heard of oil,
hydraulic fluid, coolant, or any of the

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other synthetic materials that we have
created over the last 150 years in order

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to keep things from melting down,
whether it's in a car or hydraulic press

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or all these other industrial
applications. So, I just don't

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understand why we have to that basically
be held ransomware. It's like, well, it

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has to be hooked up to a venial water
supply or it has to be used the wells.

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Why are we not entertaining all these
other options or potentially even making

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them spend all their enormous money that
they have to do the R&T to create

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something new that will keep these
things cool? the fact that we are

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hitching it, having that opportunity.
People really need to stop, you know,

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seeing it as one way or the other and
start thinking a little bit louder on

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these things and a little bit broader
because at the end of the day where

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there are other solutions that they
clearly don't want to entertain either

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because it's just a lot cheaper to use
the water and they don't care about it

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or worse, they intentionally want to
sabotage water supply so that way then

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when people can't use the water here,
they can buy up the land cheaper. We can

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see how all these things will play out.
Plus, as someone who's grown grown up in

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an area first 18 years of his life where
you didn't have forests, you had forest

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preserves, you didn't have nature, you
had nature preserves, it really sucks to

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have an area where yeah, you got
industrial areas for little sections

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right now, but if those areas get too
big or if we just allow for the language

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of these master plans going forward to
just allow anybody to come in here and

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do whatever the heck they want with
those things, [clears throat] we could

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face a very serious problem. Not to say
we need to say no growth whatsoever, but

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there's a level that we really got to be
careful going over. So, I'm hoping that

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everybody in all positions over the next
63 days thoroughly reviews that cuz Lord

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knows I will be. I know lots of other
people that are doing the exact same

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thing. So, I want to make sure that we
are all really being careful because 20

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years is a both a long time and it's
going to be gone in the blink of an eye.

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So, we got to think not just 20 years
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So, just want to make that comment Ben.
Thank you.

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» Thanks Ben. Anyone else?

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Hearing none, we'll move on to old
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Lori, you are up. Lori, it looks like
you were on for Well, I think you can

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explain it because it's a little
different than what's on our

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» Yeah. Um,
it says here about you guys approving

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the grant for um the uh environmental
review. Okay. Um, you're not approving

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the grant. Okay. I already got the
funding. And I did a um got a grant for

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Maple Man fire panel which is $250,000
which is huge. Um but what you're doing

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is approving the environmental review.
Okay. So in 2024 when I did the

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five-year plan for 2024 2029, we had to
have all our properties um Maple Manor,

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the 10 duplexes, all had to have an
environmental review done. And I mean it

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went into where the airport's located,
where the fire station is. I mean, it's

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293 pages of environmental stuff. Um, so
but when we go to do a project, like I

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listed a couple different projects that
we have [clears throat] going on, we

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have to bring this back to the city
manager to approve saying that yes, it's

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not going to have an environmental
effect on what what is proposed to be

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done. So, what you're approving or I
guess before was just the city manager

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just signed it because we're not tearing
up sewers or wells or anything like

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that. We're looking at putting a fire
panel in Maple Manor which is a

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six-story highrise um which will be
actually the fire panel will be

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connected into each apartment. Right now
it is not. Okay. So, this is like a huge

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step for them. Um it gives them more
time. if there was a fight or something

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like that, it'll give them a lot of time
to be able to either get somewhere safe

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or, you know, do whatever that they have
to do to gather their stuff. Okay. Um

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the other thing that came up was um
there's no gutters on the duplexes and

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you know what that does to foundation,
stuff like that, it can ruin them in

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pretty pretty fast. So, what we're going
to be doing with the other money that we

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had set aside in the five-year plan is
um we're going to go in and um look at

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if there's any kind of damage behind the
brick where the water was pouring

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between the wall and the brick because
there was no gutter system. Um so, we

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got engineers looking at that. Um so,
it' be fixing any type of damage. It'd

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be putting gutters on every single one
of the duplexes where absolutely they

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need to have them. It would be fixing
whatever problems it is, you know, what

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has cost. Um because again, like on the
entrances where there should be gutters,

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you know, catching water and stuff, it's
going straight down and into a concrete

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window cell or window well, I guess what
you call it. That's not good because

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that is right alongside your foundation.
So anyways, so what the approval I need

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is for Kim to be able to sign this um
it's called an environmental

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[clears throat and cough] forget the
exact wording.

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it is called an environmental review
record. That's all that environmental

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that's already been approved. And so
this is just for the project that's

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listed on here.
>> Yeah. Here you guys can see.

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[clears throat]
>> Oops.

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» Um, actually this wasn't about the
grant. What I brought it before the

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council for was because we are in a
unique situation with the housing

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commission and how we handle and
basically we make their appointments and

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that's kind of the extent um of what we
do. um when it came to me it's it's not

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that I didn't want to sign it but
usually in my other municipal roles

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there you certify someone through a
resolution whether it's a city

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administrator the mayor or whatever we
looked through our records we couldn't

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find anything um we did find where Chris
had signed environmental reviews in the

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past regarding this but it's part of you
know my purpose of being here is to make

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sure that we do the things appropriately
so I don't know Lori was there a

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resolution before on certifying someone
to be able to sign.

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» Yeah, there's
>> because again, I've not seen the

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environmental review and if I sign it,
which the

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» Yeah, Chris would have gotten a copy of
it. I mean, it's 293 pages. Probably

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kind of hard to miss. Um but you know it
the only reason why you need to sign to

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be somebody outside of the Glad City
Housing Commission. Okay, so we are um

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you guys we were formed by and through
the city of Gladlin. Okay. Um, we are

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not an entity of the city of Glideland.
We were just formed by you guys. Because

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of that, we can have the city manager
sign off on the projects that we do.

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Okay? So, we're not
you guys don't have any say other than

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you point to the public housing board
and you are outside source to get our

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environmental
records done.

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» I go ahead. I I didn't mean to fine.
>> I just wanted to make sure that we you

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know, first of all, I don't know what
I'm signing other than, you know, and

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that's fine if the um council approves
for me to do that. So,

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» sure. So, I'm just curious. It doesn't
really matter, but so if what if if you

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work on the apartment over in Beaverton,
do they have to sign or is it still us

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because we formed the housing
commission?

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» It's a public housing rule.
>> Okay. So, Antler Arms is not involved in

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this.
>> Correct.

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» Well, and neither is Vir Manor. Um, but
because public housing consists of Maple

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Manor and the 10 duplexes, those are the
units that we need the environmental

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review done. Now, we had an
environmental review done on the other

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buildings, but you guys don't have that.
We There's nothing you guys have to do.

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» Thank you, Lori. Thank you for asking
the question. Do you does someone have

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enough information to feel comfortable
offering the resolution to let Kim

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Kimberly sign this environmental review?
>> I just make a comment. I just want to

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make sure to revise it to say that.
>> No. Yeah,

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» you understand. Okay.
>> I use the wording that she used for what

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it's called. [clears throat]
>> Yeah, I'll make that resolution. I think

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that's very appropriate.
>> Okay. Is there support?

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» Support. Thank you. We have someone's
offer a resolution and support. Any

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further questions, comments, or
concerns? Lori, would you add anything

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00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:16,480
before we vote? Um,
no. This is just a formality. I mean,

407
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:20,240
it's got got to be done. We've already
have it approved through a five-year

408
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:25,120
plan, stuff like that.
>> But it's good to have an outside source

409
00:29:22,799 --> 00:29:30,799
look at the projects that we want to do.
And we've had some huge projects going

410
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:35,120
on. I mean, roofs and elevators and the
whole nine yards. So, the impact would

411
00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:40,880
be [clears throat and cough] the siding
and the gutters because the fire panels

412
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:44,880
encased within Maple Manor. There is no
nothing structural, nothing anything

413
00:29:42,880 --> 00:29:50,000
that's going to happen there. And the
other thing is with the duplexes, it

414
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:53,840
could be the siding has to be replaced.
The brick will probably be gone.

415
00:29:52,755 --> 00:29:59,200
[clears throat] Gutters need to be put
on. We already did the roofs two years

416
00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:00,880
ago and the driveway. So,
>> yeah.

417
00:29:59,679 --> 00:30:04,080
» Thank you.
>> Would you do a roll call for that

418
00:30:02,159 --> 00:30:05,440
resolution? Larski,
>> yes.

419
00:30:04,399 --> 00:30:06,720
» Michael Smith,
>> yes.

420
00:30:05,840 --> 00:30:08,080
» Deb Platt,
>> yes.

421
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,320
» Cher,
>> yes. Jamie Estein,

422
00:30:09,520 --> 00:30:11,760
» yes.
>> Carol Darlington,

423
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:13,679
» yes.
>> Dave Coffin,

424
00:30:12,559 --> 00:30:16,399
» yes. Yes.
>> Thanks, Lori. We like seeing Thank you.

425
00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:20,640
» Thanks you guys.
>> Uh, next, wastewater treatment plan

426
00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:24,720
update from the engineer and electrician
and I'm handing this over to Kimberly.

427
00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:29,919
» Um, we have Mike from Police and
Vanderbrink and George Alward. Um, we

428
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:33,600
are making some good headway and I think
we have some milestones coming this

429
00:30:31,600 --> 00:30:37,440
week. So, you want to start Mike and
kind of give you an update or George?

430
00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:44,880
Whoever wants to start.
I can go. Yeah. So, yeah, Mike with FNV.

431
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:49,679
Um, yeah. So, it is uh yeah, a lot of
work got done today, but we did um start

432
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:53,840
up the old plant. So, got pumps running,
got the clarifiers running, grid tank

433
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:58,480
running. Um still working through a few
things on on the grid tank and uh

434
00:30:56,320 --> 00:31:02,320
getting stuff to work, right? But right
now, pumping through the whole plant. Um

435
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:07,039
going to leave it that way tonight. I
know the guys are still there working on

436
00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:09,760
some stuff. So, um, still not, you know,
totally out of the woods yet. I think

437
00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:13,360
just got to test things, make sure
everything's running right and, um,

438
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:17,279
things like that. But, yeah, a lot of
good progress today. Get things started

439
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:22,960
up again. Going through the normal path
for treatment. So, um, yeah, if there

440
00:31:20,799 --> 00:31:27,679
are if you did notice any odors, I know
Kim stopped down. I probably am.

441
00:31:26,320 --> 00:31:31,039
Yeah. [laughter] So, pretty bad there
for a while. Um, just with, you know,

442
00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:38,159
some of that water that had been sitting
there and and moving it again. um you

443
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:41,279
know tends to do that. But um yeah, I
think uh things are going well. I think

444
00:31:40,159 --> 00:31:44,480
you know as far as on the solids
handling process side and the anorobic

445
00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:48,480
digesttor that's there that's going to
take a lot longer to start up. That's

446
00:31:46,399 --> 00:31:52,080
more on the terms of months um to get
that working again, get the biology

447
00:31:50,240 --> 00:31:56,080
working again, right? But as far as
everything going through the plant um

448
00:31:54,000 --> 00:32:00,159
that you know normal treatment is as
normal.

449
00:31:57,519 --> 00:32:03,757
Um, yeah. So, really good. Um,
>> which would eliminate our temporary

450
00:32:01,679 --> 00:32:05,600
pumps that are costing us $50,000.
[clears throat]

451
00:32:04,399 --> 00:32:09,679
» So, [laughter]
those pumps will still be there for a

452
00:32:07,679 --> 00:32:12,240
little while yet. Um, but, you know,
hopefully the end of this week, you

453
00:32:10,880 --> 00:32:15,679
know, people are feeling comfortable
that pumps are operating. You know, we

454
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:20,480
can watch the pump cycle, make sure
everything's still working correctly

455
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:24,320
and, um, yeah, have those get out of
there.

456
00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:28,480
» Does anyone have any questions for Mike?
>> Thank you for the update. Yeah,

457
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:31,480
» thanks for coming,
>> George.

458
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:37,039
» Really, all I'm going to do is echo what
he already said.

459
00:32:35,679 --> 00:32:41,039
The [clears throat]
pumps, all the pumps are operational.

460
00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:46,080
The entire electrical system is
operational again.

461
00:32:43,679 --> 00:32:52,240
We're just waiting on the digtor to get
that operational.

462
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:55,600
Uh, as far as the odors you mentioned,
I live about four blocks from there and

463
00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:59,487
I've got a next door neighbor that
smokes marijuana.

464
00:32:57,467 --> 00:32:59,487
[laughter]

465
00:33:01,120 --> 00:33:06,559
I don't notice anything coming up.
[laughter]

466
00:33:04,399 --> 00:33:10,000
Get that dig up [clears throat]
and we can

467
00:33:09,257 --> 00:33:14,000
[laughter]
a lot has happened over the last 20 to

468
00:33:12,320 --> 00:33:17,200
30 days. And I think we need to be
grateful for the skilled trades folks

469
00:33:15,679 --> 00:33:20,480
who helped us
>> together keep them informed the best we

470
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:24,320
can. So,
>> thank you. Any questions for the chief

471
00:33:22,399 --> 00:33:28,240
George? He's George this time.
>> George, I had a question for you. What

472
00:33:26,480 --> 00:33:33,519
um you'd mentioned before when you gave
an update that one of the main um power

473
00:33:31,919 --> 00:33:37,840
supply lines that were under was
underground was compromised.

474
00:33:36,159 --> 00:33:39,760
Were you able to salvage that or what
happened with that?

475
00:33:39,200 --> 00:33:43,519
» Why
>> or what happened with that line?

476
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:48,720
» We've got it replaced. Oh, you do?
>> Yes. It got replaced. It was It was

477
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:52,960
quite an ordeal to get those cables out.
They were already been in they been in

478
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:58,799
there for, you know, 30 20 some 30
years. And [clears throat] we finally

479
00:33:55,279 --> 00:34:03,519
were able to get them out and replaced.
And the new equipment that normally

480
00:34:01,279 --> 00:34:08,639
would take about 8 months to get, we had
in about a week and a half. So, we're

481
00:34:07,039 --> 00:34:13,280
back operational again.
>> Okay. Great. Thank you.

482
00:34:11,839 --> 00:34:16,560
Yeah, with Labor Day being yesterday, I
hope you all vanked a trade skilled

483
00:34:14,720 --> 00:34:21,599
person because they're saving us. Thank
you, George.

484
00:34:18,639 --> 00:34:24,000
» You're doing just fine.
>> Yes, please.

485
00:34:22,240 --> 00:34:28,960
» I just want to say because I have two
guys in the room. Um there's a team of

486
00:34:25,919 --> 00:34:34,399
four of us. There's Mike, George, Dave,
and um myself that we um kind of come

487
00:34:32,240 --> 00:34:38,320
together around 7 o'clock every night.
And then Mike puts a report together

488
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:42,960
because we're speaking to Eagle between
7 and 10:00 every single night. Um so I

489
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:47,440
just really want to say thank you
because everybody has worked good

490
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:51,440
together and um our testing has been
great. There's going to be some stuff

491
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:58,480
come out. Um did we make the paper or
no, Scott? Okay. So, tomorrow um and

492
00:34:56,720 --> 00:35:02,480
that will also be updated tomorrow on
the website um with some of our testing

493
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:06,079
because I know residents have asked what
our test results are. So, that will be

494
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:12,320
out there. But thank you guys because we
couldn't have did this without you.

495
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:15,074
» Thanks. Um be did you want the bribe in
the note then? [laughter]

496
00:35:15,674 --> 00:35:21,359
[clears throat]
>> Are there any other questions?

497
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:24,160
» Definitely write it down.
>> All right. Hearing none, we'll move on

498
00:35:22,640 --> 00:35:27,440
to the acceptance of the resignation
from council member Caffrey. Uh we

499
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:32,079
listened to him, but we did not vote to
accept. Um would someone make a motion

500
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:36,000
obviously with regrets uh to accept the
resignation of council member Caffrey?

501
00:35:35,324 --> 00:35:38,160
[clears throat]
>> Thank you. Is there support?

502
00:35:37,200 --> 00:35:42,000
» I'll support it.
>> Thank you. I have a motion support to

503
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:45,520
accept the resignation of council member
Caffrey. Any further questions or

504
00:35:43,839 --> 00:35:48,560
comments?
Hearing none. All in favor, please

505
00:35:46,720 --> 00:35:53,839
motion by saying I.
>> I. All oppose, please say nay.

506
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:57,920
Thank you. And now we get into the
appointment of the vacant city council

507
00:35:55,599 --> 00:36:03,200
seat. So how would council like to see
this happen? Designate designation

508
00:35:59,839 --> 00:36:06,960
deliberation happens in public. So does
anyone want to get started and we want

509
00:36:05,359 --> 00:36:12,880
to go through each one individually? We
got a packet for those of you who are in

510
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:18,160
the audience. We had seven folks uh
express interest.

511
00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:23,760
The amazing amount of experience in our
community should make us all very proud.

512
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:27,839
This was a nice packet to get um dream
team kind of material. So, how would you

513
00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:33,839
like to get started?
>> I think last time it worked well when um

514
00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:37,040
we were replacing um and Mike was
appointed.

515
00:36:35,359 --> 00:36:41,599
So, I don't think we need to go through
each one of these and review it. But the

516
00:36:39,119 --> 00:36:46,240
what we did is we invited the people to
do like the kind of stick with the three

517
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:50,720
minute or less type of thumb rule. I
mean, you know, we didn't set the timer,

518
00:36:47,839 --> 00:36:55,839
but um if they're here and they wanted
to present anything to the um council

519
00:36:54,079 --> 00:36:57,599
and then we went on from there.
>> We have a couple.

520
00:36:56,880 --> 00:37:01,200
» I think that's great.
>> No, if that's if that's okay with I mean

521
00:36:59,119 --> 00:37:04,320
that's how we did it before. I did
follow the same.

522
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:08,960
» Okay. Uh how many of you are here? I
know two are here. Is there more?

523
00:37:06,960 --> 00:37:13,359
» I'm a representative for
>> Okay. From where?

524
00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:17,280
» Uh my name is Rebecca representative for
Patrick H.

525
00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:21,119
» Okay. Oh, great. Okay. Uh, do you guys
are you okay with a three minute? Tell

526
00:37:18,720 --> 00:37:27,280
us what your strengths are, how you want
to go.

527
00:37:24,079 --> 00:37:29,839
» Oh, I think
it Oh, it's the last name.

528
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:31,680
» Should I come there? You want me to stay
back here?

529
00:37:30,240 --> 00:37:34,160
» As long as you're loud and I know you
>> Oh, I'm definitely loud. Don't you

530
00:37:32,720 --> 00:37:37,359
worry. Um, take everybody. I'll just
read the letter that I got here last

531
00:37:35,359 --> 00:37:40,800
time. I feel like I got off base. So, my
name is Benjamin K. Frons. I'm writing

532
00:37:38,960 --> 00:37:44,560
this to formally humbly apply for the
recently vacated Lin City Council

533
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:48,000
position. I am a husband, father of four
and own two properties in Gladwin, one

534
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:51,359
within the city limits as well as one
outside in Buckeye Township. I have been

535
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:55,520
a substitute teacher at Gladwin schools
as well as other schools in the area for

536
00:37:53,599 --> 00:37:58,560
over 2 years now. Your kids or grandkids
may know me as Mr. Ben and I have

537
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:01,200
recently taken over running the chess
club at the Gladwin Library. While I'm

538
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:04,160
sure there are others whose involvement
in the community is more extensive, this

539
00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:07,680
is what I've managed in just over 5
years of living in Gladwin. To put

540
00:38:05,839 --> 00:38:10,560
things in perspective, as a younger man
who has worked in a variety of positions

541
00:38:08,880 --> 00:38:14,160
in my life, from manufacturing to
service to hospitality to sales to

542
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:17,111
corporate to institutional, I can offer
a broader outlook to the council on

543
00:38:15,599 --> 00:38:19,440
these various industries. Further,
[clears throat] as someone who has

544
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:23,200
attended city meetings in the past, I
can see how there are fewer younger

545
00:38:21,920 --> 00:38:26,720
people represented, whether in the
council or attendees. Now, some may say

546
00:38:25,040 --> 00:38:30,000
this is due to a lack of experience.
However, I am inclined to agree with

547
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:33,440
Oscar Wild, who once famously said that
experience is merely the name men give

548
00:38:32,000 --> 00:38:37,119
to their failures. While this can be
taken to a cynical extreme, which I am

549
00:38:35,119 --> 00:38:41,119
not advocating for, it simply serves to
remind us that experience is not an end-

550
00:38:39,440 --> 00:38:44,160
all beall. I still have experienced an
extensive amount despite my youth having

551
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:47,680
lived in multiple states, traveled
internationally, and being married with

552
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:50,960
kids for over 8 years now. In this
respect, I believe I would make an ideal

553
00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:54,320
candidate, someone with perspective, but
still plenty to learn from the veteran

554
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:57,839
council members. Lastly, I've been
reading up on parliamentary procedure in

555
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:00,640
efforts to ensure I make proper motions
and understand how the meetings are run.

556
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:03,520
Cannot guarantee that I will do
everything to the letter initially.

557
00:39:02,079 --> 00:39:06,880
However, I'm always willing to learn
accordingly. Thank you so much for your

558
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:09,567
time. Have a great day.
>> Thanks, Ben. [clears throat]

559
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:14,560
» AJ, you want to go next?
>> Sure. I'll go next.

560
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:20,079
» Thanks for being here.
>> My stuff.

561
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:25,839
Uh, I'm AJ. You live in the city for
five, six years now. Previously, we've

562
00:39:22,880 --> 00:39:31,040
been living in GL my whole life. Um,
grow up here. I've been involved in uh

563
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:34,720
youth sports for 15 years. I was a
president down there on the the board

564
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:39,440
for 15 years actually. Just resigned
from that position um two years ago.

565
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:43,040
Took on repping in the community. So now
I ref

566
00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:46,240
um some high school games. I was just at
the Spring Lake game on Wednesday or

567
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:51,520
Thursday. That was pretty good
experience at a varsity game. Um

568
00:39:48,720 --> 00:39:58,560
currently I am now on the uh sports
complex board. Um when I was a kid I was

569
00:39:54,320 --> 00:40:03,680
on the junior 4 board. Um we ran all the
meetings and stuff. Um, for the reason

570
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:07,680
of why I want to get involved, again,
I'm going to mimic there's not a lot of

571
00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:13,359
youth that wants to get involved. Um,
and I feel that as time goes by, we

572
00:40:10,720 --> 00:40:16,720
start having kids. Um, we want to set a
good example for our kids and stepping

573
00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:22,960
up and having a voice for them when they
can't. Um, so yeah, that's unless you

574
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:25,359
guys have any questions for me, that's
kind of where I where I'm at.

575
00:40:24,838 --> 00:40:29,520
[clears throat]
>> Perfect. Thank you, Would you like to

576
00:40:27,920 --> 00:40:34,079
speak on behalf of Mr. Heatherington.
>> I would like to speak on behalf of Mr.

577
00:40:31,359 --> 00:40:38,520
Heatherington. Patrick Heatherington was
born and raised here in

578
00:40:39,903 --> 00:40:41,923
[laughter]

579
00:40:44,800 --> 00:40:52,880
» All right. I uh
oh

580
00:40:50,560 --> 00:41:00,480
my own
born and raised here

581
00:40:55,520 --> 00:41:05,800
lived here for 16 years of his life
advocate

582
00:41:02,560 --> 00:41:05,800
high school

583
00:41:07,119 --> 00:41:16,480
varsity guy and all team and moved to
California moved back because he loved

584
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:24,560
was
most glad because he loved it. He loved

585
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:31,648
the family. He loved the community and
he loved everything. He put his time and

586
00:41:28,319 --> 00:41:39,040
effort into rebuilding a home on Gallery
[clears throat] that was about to be

587
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:45,680
devastated and demolished and rebuilt it
because he loved the city and he loves

588
00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:49,599
the city and he loves the people and he
wants it to succeed

589
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:56,160
and
this is his home and this is his

590
00:41:52,720 --> 00:42:01,359
community. He wants it to thrive and
wants all of us to thrive

591
00:41:59,839 --> 00:42:08,960
and
which phone would work if he would tell

592
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:14,720
us that. Um unfortunately um outside of
Glad Gladwin so [clears throat] he got a

593
00:42:11,680 --> 00:42:21,440
tummy ache and he couldn't be here but
he loves this town. He loves everyone

594
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:27,280
here and
wants to try.

595
00:42:23,520 --> 00:42:27,280
» Thank you. Thank you.

596
00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:35,359
he
>> you're what you're saying is fabulous.

597
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:43,520
as um he built when he left he built and
built a business in California that was

598
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:47,000
thriving for years and until I thought
it was time to

599
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:02,640
» that's what I have to
Thank you. Thank you very much.

600
00:43:01,520 --> 00:43:05,119
» Tisha.
>> Um,

601
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:09,440
» what?
>> No, go ahead. I read it and I'm like I

602
00:43:07,839 --> 00:43:11,599
didn't get the last name, my friend.
Sorry.

603
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:14,319
» Cuz you're just Tisha. You just have one
name.

604
00:43:12,160 --> 00:43:19,920
» Go ahead.
>> Well, most of you guys already know who

605
00:43:15,839 --> 00:43:24,560
I am. You know, I do parks.
Moved here. We bought our house here

606
00:43:21,920 --> 00:43:29,760
eight years ago. Literally knowing
nobody in this town. Not a soul.

607
00:43:28,079 --> 00:43:35,359
And [snorts]
it's a wonderful town. We love it. This

608
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:41,520
is our home now.
Our grandkids come here.

609
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:45,520
They go right Christiey's store.
They go find local businesses and they

610
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:52,560
have fun.
I Michigan's my home, but I lived out in

611
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:56,480
other states. I've done city council
before. I've been on school boards

612
00:43:54,319 --> 00:44:02,079
before.
I've learned how to work with people

613
00:43:59,119 --> 00:44:09,760
that are fun and people sometimes you
just okay but you always work together

614
00:44:06,000 --> 00:44:14,480
and you always find a medium
and I just feel like I promised my

615
00:44:11,920 --> 00:44:18,160
daughter I would never do this again.
>> Sorry,

616
00:44:16,000 --> 00:44:21,760
but I just feel like I just would love
to be in a town that I love now and

617
00:44:20,240 --> 00:44:24,720
called home.
>> Thank you. Are there any questions for

618
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:28,319
Tisha?
Thank you. Uh, thank you all for being

619
00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:34,160
here. Additionally, in our packet, we
had Aaron Gibbers, Nicole Willis, and

620
00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:38,079
Doug Jacobson. Um, so council, are there
any questions, concerns? Would someone

621
00:44:36,079 --> 00:44:42,280
want to start with a motion? You want to
How would you like to keep going?

622
00:44:42,720 --> 00:44:51,359
» I'd like to make a motion to uh appoint
Tesha Wyatt to the city council to

623
00:44:49,280 --> 00:44:57,319
replace John Caffrey.
>> We have a motion for Tisha. I'll support

624
00:44:54,319 --> 00:44:57,319
it.

625
00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:05,599
» Okay. All right. We have a motion in
support. Let's have a conversation.

626
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:08,000
» This is Mr. Heatherington.
>> Hello, Mr. Heatherington. Thanks for

627
00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:14,079
joining us.
>> Hi. Sorry. I have been feeling good

628
00:45:10,960 --> 00:45:17,280
today, so I just But Rebecca said I had
to come over for a little while.

629
00:45:20,400 --> 00:45:25,440
But you speak better for yourself than I
could.

630
00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:27,280
» Uh, we did hear about you, Mr.
Heatherington.

631
00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:31,119
» Good.
>> So, please feel free to have a seat and

632
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:38,079
relax for a minute. Thank you, council
person. Yes. First of all, um I'd like

633
00:45:34,640 --> 00:45:43,680
to again, as you did, um thank those
that are here and those that are not

634
00:45:40,240 --> 00:45:49,839
here for taking the time and effort and
taking that step to put their name in to

635
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:54,560
fill this two-year position. Um I
appreciate that. It's it's always

636
00:45:52,240 --> 00:45:59,599
concerning to think is anybody going to
who's going to how many are going to?

637
00:45:56,800 --> 00:46:08,880
This was an awesome showing of support
and interest. So, I appreciate that. Um,

638
00:46:03,119 --> 00:46:13,760
I will support the nomination. Um,
there's a couple of reasons.

639
00:46:11,599 --> 00:46:20,560
I'm looking for someone right now to
fill this two-year position that has

640
00:46:16,160 --> 00:46:25,839
some experience on city council and
other boards such as the school board.

641
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:33,359
And there's a reason for that. Um we are
going to have a opportunity to have an

642
00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:41,440
election in just a very short period of
time and um most likely things will

643
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:47,920
change in some respects and it would be
nice to have someone seated in that

644
00:46:44,800 --> 00:46:53,119
position that has some background in
council already um and is already up to

645
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:57,842
speed has been attending the meetings
for I don't know maybe a year or so. Um,

646
00:46:55,920 --> 00:47:02,160
and knows a lot of what's taking place
[laughter] and transitioning right now.

647
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:07,119
So, that is my thoughts.
>> I'm going to add my thoughts if no one

648
00:47:03,839 --> 00:47:13,520
has more. I think Tisha is a great uh a
great nomination, but I think u both AJ

649
00:47:10,400 --> 00:47:18,160
and Ben have uh shown more than once and
more in in quite official ways that they

650
00:47:16,079 --> 00:47:22,000
are interested in a seat here. So, I
don't think we can in my humble opinion,

651
00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:28,480
I'm not sure they should be written off
quite yet. Um, but I'd love to hear some

652
00:47:25,839 --> 00:47:32,800
discussion. Deliberation is public. So,
thoughts, questions, concerns. Can you,

653
00:47:30,960 --> 00:47:38,319
you know, I heard why you wanted to
support the nomination. Is there anyone

654
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:43,119
do we close nominations or are you guys
I mean, this is the great conversation

655
00:47:40,960 --> 00:47:46,880
we get to have.
I think they're all three are great

656
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:53,040
candidates and they all have contributed
to meetings and they've all been

657
00:47:50,319 --> 00:47:58,560
» It's a tough decision.
Yes, thank you.

658
00:47:54,000 --> 00:48:05,760
» I I uh I agree. I I was impressed with
these resumes. There's some really good

659
00:48:00,960 --> 00:48:13,280
resumes in here. It really is. And uh it
was a tough decision for me. Um I did

660
00:48:10,000 --> 00:48:15,920
base part of my decision on what I've
seen and heard in the last three or four

661
00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,760
months.
>> Okay.

662
00:48:16,319 --> 00:48:21,839
» We'll just leave it at that.
>> Okay.

663
00:48:19,200 --> 00:48:26,960
» Anyone else?
Okay, we have a motion. Uh, any further

664
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:30,880
discussion?
Okay, well, we'll close motions. Uh, and

665
00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:35,839
we'll take a vote. Can we do a roll call
vote on this one? The motion was for

666
00:48:33,599 --> 00:48:40,680
Tisha to support or Tisha to be
appointed for the two-year vacancy.

667
00:48:40,800 --> 00:48:43,440
» Carol Dington,
>> yes.

668
00:48:42,559 --> 00:48:46,720
» Dave Crawford,
>> yes.

669
00:48:43,839 --> 00:48:50,880
» Jamie Eine,
>> I'm still undecided on this one, guys.

670
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:59,040
And I'm not going to lie. I mean, this
is a it's a tough decision and I don't

671
00:48:56,160 --> 00:49:03,680
I don't know how we can just not have
more of a discussion about this.

672
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:10,400
» Okay, that's where I'm sitting right
now. That's a valid concern. I feel the

673
00:49:06,000 --> 00:49:14,400
same way, but here we are. Um
I don't know since we started voting. I

674
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:17,359
think we have to keep going. So we can
register as they're not I don't think

675
00:49:15,839 --> 00:49:21,839
you can register as not vote but a no
vote at this point because we can vote

676
00:49:19,280 --> 00:49:26,880
again later.
>> Yep. You know that if you don't vote

677
00:49:24,400 --> 00:49:30,480
it's a yes vote and if you
>> so it's

678
00:49:28,640 --> 00:49:35,839
» I know I just know that
>> that's why I'm stuck with this. these

679
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:40,559
happen so fast and it seems like these
decisions are made prior to coming to

680
00:49:37,599 --> 00:49:46,240
the table rather than at the table and I
just I don't like that and it makes it

681
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:50,160
it makes it a hard decision. I mean we
have great people in our community and

682
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:57,079
we've got great candidates. It is hard
to choose just one.

683
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:57,079
I don't know. I mean,

684
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:01,640
» can we

685
00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:06,720
I'd like to respond if I could,
>> please.

686
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:09,520
» Just brief just briefly.
>> That's why we got the resumes ahead of

687
00:50:08,559 --> 00:50:12,400
time.
>> I understand that. But

688
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:18,240
» we all had a chance the whole weekend to
look them over, make our decision based

689
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:20,960
on what we saw and what we know.
>> Can I ask you a question? Do you mind if

690
00:50:19,839 --> 00:50:25,200
I pause and ask you a question? Because
I agree. I had less pressure than you

691
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:29,680
all, right? Um because I just review
them and but

692
00:50:28,079 --> 00:50:33,440
I'm going to someone who's not here and
I don't think what their feelings would

693
00:50:31,040 --> 00:50:40,480
be hurt, but we have an attorney and
we're having some legal issues, right?

694
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:44,319
So, can you would you be willing or
can we talk about like why not Doug? Um

695
00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:49,119
because he's an attorney. He knows this
stuff inside and out. Um what makes you

696
00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:51,680
set him aside for anyone?
>> I don't think we can wait. Yeah. Yeah.

697
00:50:50,640 --> 00:50:54,559
We were doing discussion.
>> I don't think we can do this. We have to

698
00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:56,000
finish voting.
>> Voting.

699
00:50:55,119 --> 00:50:58,800
» That should have been Dor.
>> That should have been a point of vote.

700
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:03,359
» That should have been Yeah, that should
have been before we voted. So, let's we

701
00:51:01,119 --> 00:51:06,720
have to move on to the next person.
>> So, what would you like your vote to be

702
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:10,800
recorded as?
>> I'm going to sustain from voting at this

703
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:14,800
point.
>> Again, it'll be a yes vote. You have to

704
00:51:12,559 --> 00:51:18,960
» You have to say something, Jamie.
>> That's the hard part to vote.

705
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:22,920
» Uh, let's go around to the Can we come
back to you, Jamie? Yeah.

706
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:27,520
» I'm gonna say yes.
>> Plat.

707
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,280
» Yes.
>> Yes.

708
00:51:27,839 --> 00:51:31,200
» Okay. Michael Smith.
>> Yes.

709
00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:35,680
» Yes.
>> Would you like to register a vote now?

710
00:51:34,559 --> 00:51:44,000
» Doesn't matter. No.
>> Okay. Um at this time, thank you. Uh we

711
00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:48,920
have voted and uh congratulations Tisha.
Now we have a swearing in which is done

712
00:51:45,599 --> 00:51:48,920
by our clerk.

713
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:08,640
I do swear
>> that I'll support the Constitution of

714
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:10,960
the United States.
>> I will support the Constitution of the

715
00:52:10,319 --> 00:52:14,240
United States
>> and the Constitution of this state.

716
00:52:13,119 --> 00:52:19,680
» Constitution of this state
>> and I will faithfully discharge

717
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:21,359
» discharge. Council
person

718
00:52:20,240 --> 00:52:23,760
» council person
>> to the city of Gladlin

719
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:25,839
» city of Gladland
>> the county of Gladlin

720
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:27,359
» the county
>> state of Michigan

721
00:52:26,720 --> 00:52:32,920
» state of Michigan
>> according to the best of my abilities

722
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:32,920
» according to the best of my abilities

723
00:52:39,101 --> 00:52:44,960
[clears throat]
>> congratulations

724
00:52:42,640 --> 00:52:49,359
» it was okay if you would sit
>> it's not that I don't think you're

725
00:52:46,240 --> 00:52:52,480
qualified at because you are but I just
feel like but join us. This these happen

726
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:57,599
fast.
>> Okay. Uh and then uh the very next

727
00:52:55,359 --> 00:53:02,559
agenda item we will move to council
person Wyatt.

728
00:53:00,480 --> 00:53:07,119
Um which is we're going to discuss
changes to our the rules at our parks.

729
00:53:05,920 --> 00:53:10,880
Council person Wyatt.
>> What? [laughter]

730
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:15,200
» Wait a minute. Nope. You don't have
time. Starting right now.

731
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:17,520
» Snap snap snap. Snap. Exactly. Move
fast. [laughter]

732
00:53:16,559 --> 00:53:19,760
They sure do.
>> I know, right?

733
00:53:18,800 --> 00:53:26,800
» What was this one?
>> This one is the parks rule changes.

734
00:53:23,599 --> 00:53:32,160
» Okay, we the parks commission went
through the rules and we had discussion

735
00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:37,520
of what we wanted what we thought we
needed to change to update because those

736
00:53:35,359 --> 00:53:43,440
things were very
outdated. Um,

737
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:51,119
so we changed some of the wording to
take out back bathing beach and just put

738
00:53:47,119 --> 00:53:54,720
as swimming beach. Um,
I don't know when those things were

739
00:53:52,559 --> 00:53:56,880
written, but they were
>> um, for those [clears throat] council

740
00:53:55,599 --> 00:54:00,640
members, we do have this and we've
discussed it at two separate meetings,

741
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:05,440
both uh, two count meetings, I believe.
>> Yes, two count meetings because we had a

742
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:09,520
question for um, the wording.
>> Okay. Do does council have any further

743
00:54:07,920 --> 00:54:14,480
questions or concerns?
>> Would someone offer a question

744
00:54:12,880 --> 00:54:17,680
motion? We'll do motion then questions.
You should do that anyway. A motion to

745
00:54:16,319 --> 00:54:21,920
approve and then we'll go through
questions.

746
00:54:18,880 --> 00:54:26,000
» I'll make a motion that we approve the
2027 rules for the park and campground

747
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:29,440
as presented.
>> Thank you. Is there support?

748
00:54:28,880 --> 00:54:32,720
» Support.
>> Thank you. Motion to support. Thank you.

749
00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:36,960
Council is glad.
>> Uh Chief, I have a question for you on

750
00:54:34,640 --> 00:54:40,960
this. It says in here, unlawful to
possess a firearm or bow and arrow. This

751
00:54:39,280 --> 00:54:44,720
does not apply to registered campers who
are legally transporting hunting

752
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:48,680
weapons. How did we how do we define if
it's a hunting weapon or not?

753
00:54:48,880 --> 00:54:55,200
» Well, yeah. Um,
that's a really tough question.

754
00:54:54,000 --> 00:55:00,319
» Yeah, that's what I thought.
>> Yeah, like it's that that's one of them

755
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:03,440
areas that would be very difficult to
click that in.

756
00:55:02,240 --> 00:55:07,680
» So, they say it's a hunting weapon.
Obviously, a bow and arrow. I mean,

757
00:55:05,359 --> 00:55:11,520
that's pretty simple, but um
>> there are certain calibers and other

758
00:55:09,359 --> 00:55:14,240
things that cannot be used for hunting,
okay,

759
00:55:11,839 --> 00:55:17,920
» due to Michigan DNR rules.
>> So, obviously, if it's one of those, but

760
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:22,000
other than that, you can hunt with a
handgun. Um it has to be a certain

761
00:55:20,240 --> 00:55:26,000
caliber and certain size and things like
that. But,

762
00:55:23,040 --> 00:55:30,480
» okay. So, basically, if the DNR says it
can be a hunting weapon, that's going to

763
00:55:27,920 --> 00:55:33,440
be our standard basically. I'm just I'm
only asking because

764
00:55:32,319 --> 00:55:40,480
» a lot of it's based on the
>> the gun laws are very Yeah. You know,

765
00:55:38,559 --> 00:55:44,160
so that's why I was curious when it says
that,

766
00:55:42,079 --> 00:55:47,920
you know, hunting weapons are going to
be allowed. So I was like, how do we

767
00:55:45,599 --> 00:55:50,319
define this? So, okay, that answers my
question actually pretty good, though.

768
00:55:49,200 --> 00:55:55,920
Thank you. Thank you. Any further
questions, comments, or concerns?

769
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:59,280
Hearing none. Uh, all in favor of
approving the park rule changes that

770
00:55:57,359 --> 00:56:03,119
start in 2027, please motion by saying
I.

771
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:06,480
» All oppose, please say nay.
>> Thank you. Approval for a fundraiser for

772
00:56:05,040 --> 00:56:12,240
the city park camp [clears throat]
ground. And this one uh goes to Angela

773
00:56:10,559 --> 00:56:16,079
and Richard.
>> Okay.

774
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:22,880
Well, trying to raise money for the city
park to improve it. We need several

775
00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:29,760
picnic tables. We need several benches.
Our equipment is old right now. We're

776
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:35,359
operating on one lawn mower. That park
is big. We

777
00:56:32,960 --> 00:56:39,839
have some on order that uh Kim's trying
to get in here for us, but we need some

778
00:56:37,599 --> 00:56:45,119
new equipment. I came up with an idea of
having a golf outing to raise money. Did

779
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:52,319
they have a copy of everything?
>> Right. Updated version of the cost

780
00:56:49,520 --> 00:56:58,720
place. There's a couple.
>> So, this this proposal here for the city

781
00:56:55,920 --> 00:57:03,200
council approval
is all broke down here. The participant

782
00:57:01,599 --> 00:57:10,929
registration,
the sponsorship money. This is all based

783
00:57:06,480 --> 00:57:13,359
on a guesstimate of 80 participants.
[snorts]

784
00:57:11,599 --> 00:57:20,000
All right.
Um, we stand to make in one afternoon

785
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:25,119
3,200 bucks. All
right. That'll buy some picnic tables.

786
00:57:22,319 --> 00:57:31,200
That'll buy some benches. All right. I
understand that all the entry fees for

787
00:57:29,119 --> 00:57:36,720
this outing have to come through city
hall. That I cannot collect checks or

788
00:57:35,119 --> 00:57:40,799
cash from anybody that wants to
participate. It's all got to come

789
00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:47,920
through the city hall because it's for a
city park. Um, so all the registration

790
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:52,240
will be done here. We have a copy of our
final flyer here if anybody wants to see

791
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:57,440
it. We pass that around to the city
council. I didn't get copies made.

792
00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:03,920
It's going to be held at Gladin Heights
Golf Course. And we're asking for an

793
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:09,960
entry fee of $100 per person, which
includes their golf, their cart, their

794
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,960
lunch, their dinner.

795
00:58:10,799 --> 00:58:19,520
So, it's not unreasonable amount to ask
off of the um

796
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:28,559
registration fees of 100 bucks. All
right. The we will clear $28 per person.

797
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:32,559
All right. Sponsor fees. I'm planning on
trying to get 36 sponsors. I know I

798
00:58:31,495 --> 00:58:38,559
[clears throat] couldn't do nothing till
we were approved by the city council to

799
00:58:35,440 --> 00:58:42,880
hold this event. Um, I did talk to
people, ask them if they'd be

800
00:58:40,079 --> 00:58:47,599
interested, and [cough] I've already got
six businesses in town, which I only

801
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:52,880
talked to six businesses, saying that
they would participate.

802
00:58:49,920 --> 00:58:57,520
So, we get the signs made up for $100
donation, but advertise what they want

803
00:58:55,440 --> 00:59:03,680
on their sign on the golf course for the
day. The signs are going to cost me $23

804
00:59:00,720 --> 00:59:06,720
a piece to be made up. So, we stand on
making a good chunk of money just off

805
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:12,400
the sponsors.
And uh it's all going to the city and

806
00:59:09,440 --> 00:59:16,880
hopefully to the city parks commission
so we can improve the park.

807
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:20,799
» Angela, do you have anything?
>> Um the only other thing I'll add is

808
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:26,400
because this is being designated for a
certain item or purchase. It will have a

809
00:59:24,480 --> 00:59:30,799
line item that's separated out in your
budget that the proceeds are set aside

810
00:59:28,799 --> 00:59:34,000
and then as those items are purchased,
it will need to come back to city

811
00:59:32,240 --> 00:59:37,839
council then for you to release that so
that it doesn't just go into the general

812
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:41,200
fund and be absorbed in the fund
balance.

813
00:59:38,559 --> 00:59:45,200
» Okay. Are there any questions? I have a
couple, but does council have any

814
00:59:42,720 --> 00:59:49,520
questions?
>> Richard, I think this is the, you know,

815
00:59:47,119 --> 00:59:55,760
a fundraising a golf outing is usually
quite well received in our area.

816
00:59:53,119 --> 01:00:01,599
And don't take this wrong at all. Have
you have you done a golf scramble

817
00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:07,280
before? Golf outing before.
>> Uh I came from a company called um

818
01:00:05,119 --> 01:00:12,720
Legacy Industries. I was a compliance
manager there in charge of 370 people. I

819
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:15,680
ran two golf outings a year.
>> Great.

820
01:00:13,599 --> 01:00:18,720
» You know, and we always had over 100
participants.

821
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:22,640
» Okay. Thank you. Thank you for the
question. Any others?

822
01:00:21,200 --> 01:00:28,000
I guess [clears throat] I'll share that
and maybe this is Angela, maybe it's to

823
01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:33,440
council. Um I was a bit offended when we
asked for donations for a Christmas

824
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:37,920
party. Um because I feel like we're a
municipality and I'm, you know, my

825
01:00:35,839 --> 01:00:42,960
everyday work is the nonprofit world. So
that feels really weird to me that we're

826
01:00:40,400 --> 01:00:50,640
asking for donations. I don't know how
much of your time will be put into this.

827
01:00:45,119 --> 01:00:56,640
Um, but for $3,200 it's great, but also
we're not a nonprofit. $3,200 is

828
01:00:53,280 --> 01:01:01,520
something we waste that on postage. You
know what I mean? Like there's just I

829
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:05,680
can't believe I'm a little I'm a little
offended as a community member that

830
01:01:03,119 --> 01:01:10,720
we're asking the community to pay for
something that we manage because we

831
01:01:08,160 --> 01:01:16,240
haven't kept up or it's one of those
things that has always bothered me. Um,

832
01:01:13,119 --> 01:01:20,240
but that's my opinion. I just and I
nonprofits, right? Like it

833
01:01:19,177 --> 01:01:23,760
[clears throat] feels like we're not a
charity, we're a municipality. If we

834
01:01:21,839 --> 01:01:27,440
can't keep our
park benches up to date, what's next?

835
01:01:26,160 --> 01:01:31,119
You know, we do have things on this list
that we haven't kept up to date that are

836
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:34,640
going to cost us. Um, so I'm opposed to
this. I really think if we need some

837
01:01:33,280 --> 01:01:38,880
park benches, let's talk about what a
park bench costs rather than going to

838
01:01:36,720 --> 01:01:43,520
the community, putting a ton of time
from the parks to staff member time. Um,

839
01:01:42,079 --> 01:01:46,880
even if we added up all that staff
number time that's not in here, um, and

840
01:01:45,520 --> 01:01:51,119
then the whole day and the planning, I
mean, I've been part of these two, it

841
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:56,640
takes a lot of time. So, I just feel
like personally for $3,200,

842
01:01:54,000 --> 01:02:01,119
I would prefer us to say, does the park
need more money? Do they not have

843
01:01:58,799 --> 01:02:04,960
enough? What is what does their budget
look like right now? Um, that would be

844
01:02:03,440 --> 01:02:08,960
my preference rather than going to our
community and saying, "We're not keeping

845
01:02:06,720 --> 01:02:13,760
up on what you've given us. we'd like
you to give us a donation to take care

846
01:02:11,760 --> 01:02:17,920
of what you've already paid for. It just
feels like a big mess to me per

847
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:20,400
personally, but does anyone else have
any concerns or would you like to create

848
01:02:19,440 --> 01:02:23,799
a motion?
>> I think that

849
01:02:24,319 --> 01:02:31,680
I've never seen a
um golf outing bring in this little bit

850
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:36,240
of money. So, this is this is based off
from these specifics. This is not based

851
01:02:34,480 --> 01:02:42,480
off from the other things that will be
happening and taking place there. So

852
01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:44,319
that number definitely should be
significant.

853
01:02:43,119 --> 01:02:47,520
» It is lowalled.
>> Well, that's what I'm saying. Should be

854
01:02:45,920 --> 01:02:50,520
significantly better.
>> However,

855
01:02:50,640 --> 01:02:59,280
» I would like to see and and this is
>> and maybe it's not maybe we don't do it

856
01:02:56,000 --> 01:03:05,920
this fall. What I would like to see is I
would like to see a budget request come

857
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:12,160
through from the parks
telling us what we need. To be honest

858
01:03:08,240 --> 01:03:16,559
with you, I I am and I and I I have a I
mean I I I agree with Sarah. I'm not as

859
01:03:14,880 --> 01:03:21,599
concerned in regards to some of the
things that she said, but I do agree um

860
01:03:19,839 --> 01:03:26,319
that
we should know how many picnic tables

861
01:03:23,920 --> 01:03:30,720
need replacing and what the cost is. We
should know, you know, what the lawn

862
01:03:28,799 --> 01:03:35,520
mower is, you know, we should know those
kinds of things. And in addition, you

863
01:03:33,680 --> 01:03:42,319
know, there should be some grants out
there that we could apply for. So, um, I

864
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:48,880
appreciate what you've put into this.
I'm not seeing it in and my vote will be

865
01:03:46,079 --> 01:03:53,920
that we don't entertain it for this
fall. If it's something that we still

866
01:03:51,599 --> 01:04:00,960
see is a need and that we can't meet
that need, then I would say that maybe

867
01:03:56,880 --> 01:04:05,599
the new seated council would want to um
entertain it for a spring golf outing.

868
01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:09,839
» Just my thoughts.
>> Thank you, Council Durlington. Any other

869
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:15,200
questions? I had the same concern about
the date of you never know what October

870
01:04:11,920 --> 01:04:19,760
10th is going to look like. It could be.
>> And then what is the threshold to

871
01:04:17,839 --> 01:04:23,039
actually make this happen? How many
people do you have to have signed up

872
01:04:20,960 --> 01:04:26,880
before this is a go?
>> Um, it's actually a no lose situation

873
01:04:26,160 --> 01:04:31,680
for us.
>> Okay.

874
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:35,359
» The participants are doing all the cost.
If we have four people show up, we're

875
01:04:33,359 --> 01:04:39,680
still going to make 100 bucks. All
right. So,

876
01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:44,319
» well, and that's to Carol's
comment. It's there's a lot and Sarah's

877
01:04:42,640 --> 01:04:49,280
too. There's a lot that goes into this.
$100 isn't worth the time and money that

878
01:04:47,680 --> 01:04:52,480
we're putting into this.
>> Well, there's nobody putting any time

879
01:04:50,799 --> 01:04:57,599
into it except for me. I'm not doing it
on the clock. This is all volunteer. The

880
01:04:55,119 --> 01:05:01,760
only one that's done anything is myself.
All right. I've gotten some help from

881
01:04:59,200 --> 01:05:07,200
Terry and and a couple other people,
Tisha, [clears throat] to review what I

882
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:12,960
put together. Okay? But none of this is
being charged to the city for employee

883
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:19,039
time, right? You guys vote not to have
it, that's fine. That's your decision.

884
01:05:15,039 --> 01:05:23,520
All right. We have a proposal that Tisha
from the head of the parks commission,

885
01:05:21,839 --> 01:05:29,359
she's got a breakdown of how many picnic
tables we do need, how many benches we

886
01:05:25,839 --> 01:05:32,400
do need, what they cost, what we want,
right?

887
01:05:30,240 --> 01:05:38,880
» That stuff has all been taken care of,
not on the clock for the city. That's

888
01:05:34,960 --> 01:05:43,359
all volunteer time. Okay? And
>> the same thing here with the golf

889
01:05:40,559 --> 01:05:49,599
outing. If you guys prove it, we'll go
ahead with it. All right. The 3,200

890
01:05:46,319 --> 01:05:54,559
bucks is lowballed. All right.
It's not going to make enough money to

891
01:05:52,079 --> 01:05:58,960
fix the roof on the North Park pavilion,
you know, but it'll put a dent in some

892
01:05:56,799 --> 01:06:02,559
of the stuff that we really need.
>> So, it's up to you guys. You want to bl

893
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:06,400
it down, that's fine. It's no skin off
my nose, right?

894
01:06:04,480 --> 01:06:10,160
» I I only have one further question based
on what you just said. uh and maybe a

895
01:06:08,319 --> 01:06:15,039
comment, but one of the questions is I
don't I should know this, please forgive

896
01:06:12,640 --> 01:06:19,359
me. Uh if you're paid hourly, I don't
think you can legally volunteer your

897
01:06:16,960 --> 01:06:22,799
time. Uh I'm not an HR expert, but that
seems like something I learned a long

898
01:06:20,559 --> 01:06:27,599
time ago. Um so it might be something to
consider in the future and talk to the

899
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:33,440
your uh your management about. But my
other concern is not just the

900
01:06:30,319 --> 01:06:37,200
fundraiser, but if the community who who
shows up to golf wants to use those

901
01:06:36,000 --> 01:06:41,440
picnic tables, they have to pay to get
in the park. I mean, we're not providing

902
01:06:38,799 --> 01:06:44,799
a service that is, you know, you have to
pay for it. So, it feels like going to

903
01:06:43,359 --> 01:06:48,400
McDonald's and having them say, "Hey,
can you help us paint the wall?" Like, I

904
01:06:46,319 --> 01:06:52,079
thought I'd paid already to do this. It
just feels like a delineation. I do

905
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:56,799
think I'd like to see the plan. If there
is one, it's great, but we don't have

906
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:59,680
that with us. Um, good. Uh, yes,
Kimberly.

907
01:06:57,599 --> 01:07:04,319
» Um, I just want to say, you know, I've
not been heavily involved in this other

908
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:08,799
than being at the parks meetings. Um,
what I I want to have you look at the

909
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:12,640
big picture. It's not about the $3,200.
We have a park expansion that's almost

910
01:07:10,640 --> 01:07:18,000
$3 million. We're in the process of
trying to schedule um some kind of

911
01:07:15,359 --> 01:07:23,039
showing for I want Fleece and
Vanderbrink to come in because we're 90%

912
01:07:20,559 --> 01:07:25,839
ready to get going here. Um, I want the
community to be able to see what we're

913
01:07:24,559 --> 01:07:31,440
going to bring to the community because
I think they've been left out a lot in

914
01:07:27,680 --> 01:07:35,280
this. Part of that is, um, our parks
budget is very minimal. It's been that

915
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:40,079
way for many years. We're all, it's one
of our departments that's in the red. We

916
01:07:37,520 --> 01:07:45,119
have a group of all new, um,
commissioners that are on our parks

917
01:07:41,760 --> 01:07:49,280
commission that are gung-ho about trying
to help our parks, putting a lot of

918
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:53,760
personal time. We've got two council
members now that um one the chair and

919
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:58,640
and one that's been on there for 30 plus
years. They want to work together. So,

920
01:07:57,039 --> 01:08:02,480
it's not about the money this is going
to bring in. They're you're going to

921
01:08:00,160 --> 01:08:06,480
have businesses. You're going to have um
a group of people come together to

922
01:08:04,319 --> 01:08:11,680
support the parks. Uh there's going to
be conversations. A lot of these things

923
01:08:08,079 --> 01:08:16,319
are done to bring awareness, to bring um
people to our parks that maybe weren't.

924
01:08:14,240 --> 01:08:20,319
So, I would I just by hearing the
conversation, I would I would just ask

925
01:08:18,319 --> 01:08:24,319
you to look at that. Um, and I would
like to hear from the two people that

926
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:29,040
are on the parks because
um there's several things that they want

927
01:08:26,400 --> 01:08:34,719
to help to bring things in. We also have
a donor right now that is willing to pay

928
01:08:32,080 --> 01:08:39,600
50% of whatever we do as far as they
said park benches. Um, it doesn't even

929
01:08:37,199 --> 01:08:45,759
need to go for park benches or if it's
it's the idea of bringing people

930
01:08:41,920 --> 01:08:49,520
together, seeing what we offer and
making it a community event where people

931
01:08:47,520 --> 01:08:53,359
can enjoy it. It's time for people to
come together because this is my

932
01:08:52,000 --> 01:08:57,520
personal opinion. We've lost some
community feel over the last few years.

933
01:08:55,920 --> 01:09:00,719
Um, so that's my two cents.
>> I don't disagree. I just think a golf

934
01:08:58,880 --> 01:09:04,640
outing needs to pay. I mean, it's a very
specific portion of our community, but

935
01:09:02,799 --> 01:09:06,239
activities are activities. Yes, please.
She wanted to hear from the two

936
01:09:05,679 --> 01:09:09,920
companies.
>> Well, I I don't see it as people

937
01:09:08,162 --> 01:09:13,679
[clears throat] donating. They're out
there for a fun day.

938
01:09:11,759 --> 01:09:17,839
» The golf tournaments, scrambles,
whatever. They bring people together. I

939
01:09:15,759 --> 01:09:22,159
mean, you can have other events going
on. I mean, it's not just like, oh, here

940
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:25,359
we're just going to give you 100 bucks.
>> But the sponsorships are I mean, it's

941
01:09:23,679 --> 01:09:28,319
saying to a business, we'll put up your
sign.

942
01:09:26,480 --> 01:09:33,279
» It's a it's a fun day. They're get, you
know, if they want to sponsor a hole,

943
01:09:30,480 --> 01:09:35,600
they they will for $100, right? Get
their name out there. they get

944
01:09:34,480 --> 01:09:38,719
advertisement,
>> you know, and it's, you know, golf

945
01:09:37,440 --> 01:09:43,359
tournaments are fun,
>> you know,

946
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:48,319
» and I can't see, you know, the cost, the
only cost it would be was would be the

947
01:09:46,000 --> 01:09:53,679
the person that's taking in the money at
city hall, you know, their hourly rate

948
01:09:51,199 --> 01:10:00,239
or wage or whatever that they have to be
involved in taking the checks.

949
01:09:56,480 --> 01:10:06,000
» Yeah. Thank you for that. And I think it
would just be a fun a fun thing, a

950
01:10:03,040 --> 01:10:09,840
community outing.
>> So that's my opinion.

951
01:10:08,239 --> 01:10:14,640
» That's a lot what we've talked about. We
want to do more things to bring more

952
01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:18,640
awareness for the park and to be able to
bring more revenue to the park. There's

953
01:10:17,120 --> 01:10:24,480
a couple other things that are on the
burner

954
01:10:20,400 --> 01:10:27,600
um about bringing fundraising in. I'm
not going to say anything what it is yet

955
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:32,159
because I don't have a definite, but
there's other big events that we've been

956
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:38,560
looking at to try to bring in to the
town to help bring revenue to our parks

957
01:10:36,800 --> 01:10:42,640
because our parks are a beautiful thing.
Our campground, I don't know if anybody

958
01:10:40,480 --> 01:10:47,069
saw it this weekend, but we look pretty
good this weekend. We actually had a

959
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:50,560
bunch of campers in there.
[clears throat]

960
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:55,040
» I I I hear two things. I hear fundraiser
and I hear friendraiser, right? That's

961
01:10:52,880 --> 01:10:58,560
what in my field they call it, right?
So, I like that you are thinking

962
01:10:57,199 --> 01:11:03,520
fundraiser and it turns into a
fundraiser, but we have in front of us

963
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:06,800
fundraiser for the city park and
campground. Um, it's listed as a

964
01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:11,760
fundraiser. I didn't see the fly. I
didn't look at the flyer closely. Um,

965
01:11:08,480 --> 01:11:15,920
and that was that's my hesitation is
going to a business and saying, "Can you

966
01:11:14,000 --> 01:11:20,400
sponsor a hole for $100? Give the city
write the city a check for $100." And

967
01:11:18,400 --> 01:11:25,199
then, thank you, sir. uh write rate
write the city a check for $100

968
01:11:23,760 --> 01:11:29,520
and then pay your taxes and if you want
to see the park bench that you helped

969
01:11:26,400 --> 01:11:33,760
build pay $5 to get in the city uh park.
It's just it's my own personal I don't

970
01:11:31,440 --> 01:11:38,080
think I'm that's why I'm sharing my
opinion but you are free Linda to share

971
01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:42,089
or council person excuse me to share
yours. Um if not we can if someone has

972
01:11:40,880 --> 01:11:43,600
would like to make the motion
[clears throat] uh we can start there

973
01:11:43,199 --> 01:11:47,760
too.
>> I'd like to comment on it.

974
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:52,320
» Um I appreciate all the work you put
into it. Initially,

975
01:11:50,640 --> 01:11:57,840
when I listened to what the mayor said,
I thought it makes sense that that we

976
01:11:56,320 --> 01:12:02,239
shouldn't be asking for money. We should
raise fees or whatever we have to do to

977
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:06,159
to get things done or grants. But then
after hearing from the parks me

978
01:12:04,080 --> 01:12:10,880
commission members, I thought about the
fire department had a had a golf outing

979
01:12:08,560 --> 01:12:16,880
um and
public, not a nonprofit, right? um very

980
01:12:14,080 --> 01:12:20,719
very well attended and uh been going on
for a lot of years I think.

981
01:12:18,480 --> 01:12:25,280
» Um probably not a whole lot different
than that other than public safety is

982
01:12:22,960 --> 01:12:29,199
huge. I mean that's that's huge. Fire
department is is a big deal and it's

983
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:33,920
really important that that they operate
but also kind of sad they might need to

984
01:12:32,000 --> 01:12:38,719
have fundraiser continue operating
because the equipment is so expensive

985
01:12:35,280 --> 01:12:42,080
and all that. So, in after hearing all
all the input, I I think that it's I

986
01:12:40,960 --> 01:12:44,159
think it's appropriate and I would
support it.

987
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:48,080
» Can a challenge with that with the fire
department just if I if I need the fire

988
01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:51,120
department, they're not unless it's a
problem. They're not going to charge me,

989
01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:55,040
right? This is a service run by
volunteers. You know, that's where I

990
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:57,840
think the delay, but I agree with you.
Thank you for sharing. I think that

991
01:12:56,239 --> 01:13:03,199
» the fire department is also publicly
funded which it's kind of like we they

992
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:06,320
should have enough money that I think we
>> unfortunately they don't have enough

993
01:13:04,640 --> 01:13:09,040
money because it's so expensive to
operate a fire department.

994
01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:11,679
» Um
>> so they end up having to do it on golf

995
01:13:10,480 --> 01:13:15,360
outing to help support that.
>> We do have a subject matter expert

996
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:21,920
» speak on part I'm part of parks
committee. Um,

997
01:13:18,000 --> 01:13:23,360
our intent for this was to help our
hearts.

998
01:13:22,480 --> 01:13:30,159
» Mhm.
>> That's all. Um, we all in that

999
01:13:27,040 --> 01:13:36,080
committee. That's what we want to do.
Um, I mean, one example is the North

1000
01:13:32,719 --> 01:13:40,960
Park. I mean down there it's not and
I've heard people say

1001
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:45,840
with the pickle ball stuff being down
there and we wanted to maybe put it down

1002
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:49,920
there. It's undesirable
the North Park

1003
01:13:47,679 --> 01:13:55,920
» to our residents.
So that kind of hit home with me that we

1004
01:13:53,120 --> 01:14:04,239
really need to do something different
and as the budget that we see doesn't

1005
01:14:01,199 --> 01:14:07,040
allow us to do much of anything,
>> right?

1006
01:14:05,120 --> 01:14:11,760
» So
I being on the park committee, I'll be

1007
01:14:09,199 --> 01:14:19,760
working with these folks
and I'll assure you we will have a plan

1008
01:14:16,159 --> 01:14:23,840
of what we want and the budget involved.
In the meantime, because that's a long

1009
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:30,640
process to go through to try to get
something done as you all know, let's do

1010
01:14:26,719 --> 01:14:36,080
some fundraising. Why not? Let's get a
couple things.

1011
01:14:32,320 --> 01:14:41,040
» We have Thank you, Councilman.
>> Okay. I've been attending parks

1012
01:14:37,600 --> 01:14:46,880
commission meetings and I find that
group of of uh people are really they

1013
01:14:45,199 --> 01:14:52,320
really want to do something. they really
want to do something that shows. And so,

1014
01:14:50,080 --> 01:14:59,440
as Terry said, it's a long process. Some
of these things take take a long time to

1015
01:14:55,440 --> 01:15:05,360
get um to get the ball rolling. And
they've done that. They've said we need

1016
01:15:01,920 --> 01:15:12,480
to start start providing some things for
the park as little as benches or um

1017
01:15:10,560 --> 01:15:17,440
replace the picnic tables. And they
really are committed to doing this. So,

1018
01:15:14,880 --> 01:15:22,640
I've heard all their discussions and I
know they they're they really want to do

1019
01:15:19,920 --> 01:15:26,320
something for the community and in
addition [clears throat] to what we

1020
01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:29,120
already provide and that's the way I see
it. It's in addition to what we already

1021
01:15:28,320 --> 01:15:33,600
provide. So,
>> is that in the way of a motion?

1022
01:15:31,280 --> 01:15:36,560
» I'd like to make a motion to support the
fundraiser then.

1023
01:15:34,560 --> 01:15:39,520
» Yes. Is there support to that motion?
I'll support.

1024
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:43,199
» Okay. We have a motion to support for
this fundraiser. We've had great

1025
01:15:40,880 --> 01:15:46,320
discussion. Uh any more discussion?
Would anyone like to register their

1026
01:15:44,960 --> 01:15:48,320
opinion?
>> Would you do a roll call vote for this

1027
01:15:47,679 --> 01:15:50,480
one?
>> Um, Jamie Anley,

1028
01:15:49,920 --> 01:15:51,679
» yes.
>> Chrissy Gutierrez,

1029
01:15:51,360 --> 01:15:52,719
» yes.
>> Dad Plant,

1030
01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:53,840
» yes.
>> Michael Smith,

1031
01:15:53,520 --> 01:15:55,679
» yes.
>> And yes.

1032
01:15:54,960 --> 01:15:56,800
» Dave Crawford,
>> yes.

1033
01:15:56,000 --> 01:16:00,640
» Carol Dington,
>> yes.

1034
01:15:58,000 --> 01:16:04,719
» Thank you. All right. Approval for MML
conference attendance. Uh, we have

1035
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:08,320
council person Gutterius, Council Es,
and Council President Flatt going.

1036
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:11,120
» I'm going.
>> No, I never asked it.

1037
01:16:10,239 --> 01:16:14,960
» No,
>> we have attendance for Well, I wanted to

1038
01:16:13,679 --> 01:16:19,280
know the dates when we were talking
about it, but I can apologize.

1039
01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:22,080
» No, it's okay. But I cannot go. I did
that.

1040
01:16:19,520 --> 01:16:25,440
» Okay. Okay. Uh I think as we all have
talked about for training is never a bad

1041
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:30,719
thing. Um
>> would someone uh make the uh motion to

1042
01:16:28,960 --> 01:16:34,159
approve the conference attendance for
council person and council person?

1043
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:38,080
» I'll make that motion.
>> Thank you. Is there support? Thank you.

1044
01:16:36,080 --> 01:16:40,400
» Can I just say something about
Absolutely.

1045
01:16:38,640 --> 01:16:48,239
» I I totally support this. Don't get all
nervous folks. Um, but why does MML put

1046
01:16:45,600 --> 01:16:55,120
this conference on
less than a month before the new people

1047
01:16:51,600 --> 01:16:59,120
are sitted in seated in the se
>> seated in the seats? There we go. That's

1048
01:16:57,040 --> 01:17:04,560
what I was trying to get out. Why is it
not a month after or at the end of

1049
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:10,400
October when those new people who need
some additional training and exposure to

1050
01:17:08,159 --> 01:17:13,040
other council people,
>> you know what I'm saying?

1051
01:17:11,920 --> 01:17:17,679
» End of November.
>> It's always Thanksgiving and then

1052
01:17:15,600 --> 01:17:23,280
Christmas.
>> I I went to both the spring and the

1053
01:17:19,440 --> 01:17:27,199
fall. And the fall is more it's more for
season people. you go to certain things

1054
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:32,400
that might be what your community is
dealing with now. The spring conference

1055
01:17:29,199 --> 01:17:36,960
is more of and Christy went to both too,
so she could probably add to this. Um

1056
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:41,440
it's more training, more things like
this. The fall conference is is the

1057
01:17:39,440 --> 01:17:46,800
annual conference and it it does a lot
of um you see projects in communities,

1058
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:51,120
you see, you know, ways that you can
implement different things where it's

1059
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:54,320
more classroom in the spring and you
went too. So would [clears throat] you

1060
01:17:52,480 --> 01:17:56,400
guys agree to that? I must have went to
the spring one because it was all

1061
01:17:55,679 --> 01:18:01,199
classroom.
>> The spring one I feel like was on a

1062
01:17:59,040 --> 01:18:04,800
specific thing that we just sat and
learned about or over for two days or

1063
01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:07,360
whatever.
>> The conference in the fall though, I

1064
01:18:06,400 --> 01:18:10,880
feel like this would be [clears throat]
my this is my hope that someday all of

1065
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:14,960
council will go
>> that all of us attend. And because when

1066
01:18:13,520 --> 01:18:17,199
you're doing the conference, there's
more than one class happening all at the

1067
01:18:16,719 --> 01:18:21,040
same time.
>> Right. Right.

1068
01:18:18,159 --> 01:18:23,920
» So like the one year it was just uh me
and John.

1069
01:18:22,320 --> 01:18:28,159
» Yeah. It was me and John. So, I could go
to this and he could go to that. But it

1070
01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:33,199
would it would be nice to have all of
council go because there is such a

1071
01:18:30,560 --> 01:18:36,640
wealth of information. Um, and it is a
lot like what Kim said. Um, other

1072
01:18:34,800 --> 01:18:40,880
communities they highlight what other
communities have done through grant

1073
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:45,679
processes or whatever it might be and
how they how they overcame projects or

1074
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:49,920
you know things that caused issues, how
they overcame that. There's always um

1075
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:54,400
law type stuff. There's always legit
legislative type stuff. Um, and then

1076
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:57,920
community projects and it it's just a
really good informative thing.

1077
01:18:56,400 --> 01:19:02,480
» I'm actually sad I can't go this year,
but it just isn't going to work.

1078
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:05,840
» So, my question is we've already
come at it three spots.

1079
01:19:04,480 --> 01:19:11,760
» We're okay.
>> If not, can we just approve that three

1080
01:19:09,199 --> 01:19:14,080
people to go and if someone else can
step in?

1081
01:19:12,719 --> 01:19:16,159
» Have we already paid?
>> No.

1082
01:19:14,960 --> 01:19:18,320
» Then we can just approve these.
>> All right. Okay.

1083
01:19:16,960 --> 01:19:23,440
» Good question. All right. Thank you for
that explanation. Uh, any further

1084
01:19:20,159 --> 01:19:28,480
questions or comments? All in favor of
approving this training for council

1085
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:32,880
personas and no e line and flatt.
>> Can I make Oh, I'm so sorry.

1086
01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:35,440
» I do like her idea because if one of
them don't end up being able to follow

1087
01:19:35,040 --> 01:19:37,120
through,
>> you just want to put number on there.

1088
01:19:36,800 --> 01:19:43,360
» Yeah.
>> Yeah. That somebody else says I can't or

1089
01:19:40,080 --> 01:19:46,400
Deb says I can't in the end.
>> You know what I mean? Been asked for.

1090
01:19:45,199 --> 01:19:53,040
» Just going to throw that out there.
>> But instead of the Yeah. I I make a

1091
01:19:48,640 --> 01:19:58,480
motion that we approve two um council
members attending the fall conference.

1092
01:19:56,159 --> 01:20:02,960
» Okay. Would you appate would you update
your motion, Tisha, to remove the names

1093
01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:05,280
and just put two people?
>> Yeah. Okay.

1094
01:20:03,679 --> 01:20:06,560
» And Mike, you approve that?
>> Yep.

1095
01:20:05,600 --> 01:20:08,080
» Okay.
>> Does that feel more comfortable?

1096
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:13,600
» Yeah.
>> Okay. So, the uh approval would be for

1097
01:20:10,880 --> 01:20:17,360
two council folks to approve or to
attend the MML conference.

1098
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:21,920
» Great. Any further questions or
comments? [clears throat]

1099
01:20:19,199 --> 01:20:25,840
All in favor, please motion by saying I.
>> I. I.

1100
01:20:22,480 --> 01:20:30,080
» All oppose, please say nay. Thank you.
Next, we have the approval of waste

1101
01:20:28,159 --> 01:20:35,920
water treatment plant emergency
preparedness. In front of us, we have a

1102
01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:42,400
couple of things. You did see the $9,70
already on the warrants from Alward uh

1103
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:46,480
electric. And then additionally, they
are not on your warrants, but they will

1104
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:53,280
be in a future warrant. They're on a
future warrant, right?

1105
01:20:48,080 --> 01:20:57,520
» Is 31,000 for SCADA and 152071
for Sunb Belt.

1106
01:20:55,679 --> 01:21:03,920
» Does anyone have any questions?
>> Wait a minute. Hold on a second. Is this

1107
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:08,000
money is coming in from insurance?
>> Yes. This is all the emergency purchases

1108
01:21:06,000 --> 01:21:14,800
that we had to do according to Eagle.
All of this we eventual will be covered

1109
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:19,840
including overtime wages insurance.
>> Mara is waiting for

1110
01:21:18,640 --> 01:21:21,360
No, that's fine. If you guys have
something that's fine, but I just can't

1111
01:21:21,040 --> 01:21:25,040
hear.
>> Let Kimberly finish first.

1112
01:21:23,120 --> 01:21:28,880
» Um Maretta is waiting for a call back. I
don't think we got one today from the

1113
01:21:26,239 --> 01:21:32,400
insurance company, right? Um but we're
thinking like

1114
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:37,360
» Why don't you say what? I just got an
email from Shannon Davis, which is our

1115
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:41,679
Melebrook claims uh representative on
Thursday last week, and she did say that

1116
01:21:39,600 --> 01:21:45,199
the adjuster, independent adjuster, has
advised that the engineer preliminary

1117
01:21:43,199 --> 01:21:49,120
determination for the damages definitely
was caused by lightning, but um they're

1118
01:21:47,600 --> 01:21:51,040
wrapping up. So, we should be getting
something soon.

1119
01:21:49,936 --> 01:21:54,639
[clears throat and snorts] So, we wanted
all to make sure all these even though

1120
01:21:52,639 --> 01:21:58,320
they're these ones, some of them are on
the warrants and some of them were not,

1121
01:21:56,639 --> 01:22:02,000
we put them all in the packet to get
approved to pay

1122
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:06,080
» so we could pay the people.
And I'm sorry, Sarah. The thing I was I

1123
01:22:04,159 --> 01:22:08,719
was confused about because you said like
a thousand on dollars on this and I'm

1124
01:22:07,520 --> 01:22:12,800
like, where is she getting these
numbers?

1125
01:22:09,440 --> 01:22:16,480
» I gave it in front of me.
>> Did you Everybody did not have that.

1126
01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:19,480
Those were not the
>> number.

1127
01:22:20,000 --> 01:22:25,360
I'm sorry.
>> So, uh, according to the the thing I

1128
01:22:22,480 --> 01:22:32,080
have just is it added them all up. So,
um, again, it was STA for $31,759.

1129
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:36,639
That's not That's plus this amount. This
is SCADA. It doesn't say it here, but

1130
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:40,960
it's USI. She's got additional invoices
we included in here.

1131
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:46,880
Yeah,
you can see like this one's approved

1132
01:22:42,719 --> 01:22:49,360
already, but the extra SCADA ones,
>> these ones,

1133
01:22:47,679 --> 01:22:53,280
» there's five of them in here. Two, three
of them were not approved. You can see

1134
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:57,360
there's no approval on them, but we
wanted them included in the packet so we

1135
01:22:55,199 --> 01:23:00,400
could pay them if the adjuster comes
says yes, they can be paid.

1136
01:22:59,199 --> 01:23:04,719
» Okay. All right.
>> Good questions. Any other questions?

1137
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:08,159
» My only question is what is our and
probably not during emergency, but what

1138
01:23:06,480 --> 01:23:13,177
is the cap where you have to go out for
bid?

1139
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:13,177
» Um, [clears throat]

1140
01:23:13,360 --> 01:23:16,480
I don't even know what
>> 20

1141
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:20,000
» 20,000.
>> No, it's 27 or 28,000.

1142
01:23:18,960 --> 01:23:22,080
» Okay. I thought I saw something that
said 20.

1143
01:23:20,480 --> 01:23:26,400
» And is that in one or two, you know, is
that like one company, one time? Um

1144
01:23:24,400 --> 01:23:29,760
because I see this gate is 31. I mean,
this is an emergency. I'm assuming the

1145
01:23:27,840 --> 01:23:33,120
policy states that during emergency are
allowed to go outside.

1146
01:23:30,800 --> 01:23:36,320
» That's a specialized company that we
that that would be under specialized too

1147
01:23:34,960 --> 01:23:40,719
because we don't have a bunch of pump
companies or um that's three different

1148
01:23:38,719 --> 01:23:43,520
pumps that we had to have. One was the
very first day and we couldn't even

1149
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:44,400
function if we didn't have it.
>> Okay.

1150
01:23:44,080 --> 01:23:48,000
» So,
>> so 27,000 and because this is

1151
01:23:46,560 --> 01:23:52,719
specialized, we wouldn't even go up for
bid. Well, and this is an emergency. So,

1152
01:23:49,760 --> 01:23:54,560
these are mandated basically by Eagle.
>> Yeah,

1153
01:23:53,120 --> 01:23:57,440
» that's why I had asked if in an
emergency I think you have authorization

1154
01:23:56,000 --> 01:24:01,520
beyond 27,000. But
>> anything that wasn't if it was an

1155
01:23:59,440 --> 01:24:06,560
emergency, we would have brought it to
council.

1156
01:24:02,560 --> 01:24:10,719
» Are there any questions or comments?
>> Hearing none. All in favor of approving

1157
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:16,480
the wastewater treatment emergency
purchases, please motion by saying I.

1158
01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:19,920
» All oppose, please say nay.
>> Thank you. Next, Kimberly, you want to

1159
01:24:18,239 --> 01:24:25,280
talk to us about the police and
Vanderink contract?

1160
01:24:21,440 --> 01:24:32,480
» Um, well, that is also in U.
Oh, wait. Oh, okay. Yep. I saw it there.

1161
01:24:28,560 --> 01:24:35,360
» The motion support for that one.
>> No,

1162
01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:39,440
» we didn't motion or support on the
wastewater treatment.

1163
01:24:36,800 --> 01:24:41,520
» We just So, can I try again?
>> Oh, we didn't do a motion on it.

1164
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:44,239
» Yes.
>> Can we try that again? Would someone

1165
01:24:42,858 --> 01:24:48,639
[laughter] make a motion to approve?
Thank you. Is there a support right

1166
01:24:45,920 --> 01:24:53,440
here? Thank you both and thank you so
very much to our clerk for keeping our

1167
01:24:50,400 --> 01:24:57,520
mayor focused. All right. Now we have a
motion. We have a support to approve

1168
01:24:55,760 --> 01:25:02,320
wastewater treatment emergency purchases
in the amount of I'm not going to go

1169
01:24:59,040 --> 01:25:05,840
through the amount again. Uh any now any
questions or comments?

1170
01:25:04,320 --> 01:25:07,840
» Great. All in favor please motion by
saying

1171
01:25:06,080 --> 01:25:10,719
» I
please say nay.

1172
01:25:09,280 --> 01:25:13,199
» And this is where everyone first watched
Sarah turn bright red. I'm so sorry.

1173
01:25:12,400 --> 01:25:16,400
Please forgive me.
>> No thank you going on there.

1174
01:25:15,280 --> 01:25:19,440
» All right. And now let's go on to the
fleece and vanderate contract. Right.

1175
01:25:18,560 --> 01:25:24,400
» Okay.
>> Okay. What you have in your um fleece

1176
01:25:21,679 --> 01:25:27,920
and vandere is our wastewater engineer,
but because this was a specialized

1177
01:25:25,840 --> 01:25:31,679
services, this was a requirement by by
eagle that we bring in an engineer.

1178
01:25:29,840 --> 01:25:36,560
They've already participated in a lot of
our wastewater treatment. Um they are

1179
01:25:34,080 --> 01:25:45,040
charging a dollar break which I believe
Mike is the one. Um and it's the 174.

1180
01:25:42,159 --> 01:25:50,320
Uh I did discuss this with him. It's the
174 project manager price and he's

1181
01:25:48,239 --> 01:25:54,909
basically charging by the hour and if we
do any of the other things and it's like

1182
01:25:53,120 --> 01:25:58,880
an addendum to what their
[clears throat]

1183
01:25:55,440 --> 01:26:02,639
» um where she contract is. It's on well
there's no pages in here so it's under

1184
01:26:00,800 --> 01:26:06,320
the police and vanderint contract. It's
on page four probably.

1185
01:26:05,389 --> 01:26:10,560
[clears throat]
Um, does is that covered by the

1186
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:12,800
insurance too if we are um the email
back?

1187
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:16,480
» I think there's a certain portion that
will be. I don't know if it all will be

1188
01:26:14,239 --> 01:26:20,719
because they are our engineer.
>> So, um, that's one of the questions that

1189
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:29,360
we're going to find out once we get a
hold of the insurance adjuster. Um, but

1190
01:26:25,040 --> 01:26:33,840
again, we had no way around us. It was a
requirement by Eagle. We had to bring

1191
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:39,920
them in. they came in at the last hour
um to help because part 41 is a big ego

1192
01:26:37,440 --> 01:26:43,440
requirement pertaining to our permitting
and um because we didn't have an

1193
01:26:41,840 --> 01:26:47,600
operator in charge and then we got an
operator in charge. Um it's very

1194
01:26:46,000 --> 01:26:51,199
important that we have an engineer on
this process. So

1195
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:54,800
» does anyone have any other questions?
>> Can you show me in here just where that

1196
01:26:53,760 --> 01:26:58,639
where you're getting that
>> project manager?

1197
01:26:56,719 --> 01:27:01,280
» Cuz Mike is a project manager. His rate
is

1198
01:26:58,800 --> 01:27:03,120
» at these 174. Okay.
>> Okay.

1199
01:27:01,679 --> 01:27:07,440
» I was like, I'm confused.
>> Thank you. Any other questions?

1200
01:27:05,760 --> 01:27:11,840
» Do we have We don't have a motion yet.
>> Okay. We need a motion.

1201
01:27:10,480 --> 01:27:16,639
» I'll make a motion.
>> Uh well, one of you support.

1202
01:27:14,080 --> 01:27:22,639
» Thank you. We have a motion from council
person and support for council person

1203
01:27:20,719 --> 01:27:28,080
to approve the fleece and vanderbrink
contract. Um any further questions,

1204
01:27:26,000 --> 01:27:30,960
comments or concerns?
>> Hearing none. All in favor, please

1205
01:27:29,199 --> 01:27:34,400
motion by saying I.
>> I.

1206
01:27:31,600 --> 01:27:38,000
» All oppose, please say nay.
All right. North Park Pavilion roof

1207
01:27:36,239 --> 01:27:41,679
replacement. This has been a discussion
for before when I before I was mayor.

1208
01:27:40,239 --> 01:27:45,920
Um, we've been talking about this for a
while. Uh, we have some information.

1209
01:27:44,159 --> 01:27:49,679
Looks like the recommendation is to
approve the bid from Barnes Construction

1210
01:27:47,600 --> 01:27:54,800
for 18,422.
The bid includes shingles, OSB boards

1211
01:27:51,600 --> 01:28:00,800
for repair, gutters, sopet, and fascia.
Any questions or comments?

1212
01:27:58,400 --> 01:28:03,679
Well, we've known for I've been mayor
for four years and we knew long before I

1213
01:28:02,320 --> 01:28:11,000
was here that it needed to be done.
>> Why was that the suggestion suggestion?

1214
01:28:06,159 --> 01:28:11,000
I'm just curious. Is that different than

1215
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:19,600
» Well, two different things
>> because we don't know for sure. They'll

1216
01:28:14,960 --> 01:28:23,320
charge extra for the replacement if it's
an additional $3.

1217
01:28:24,159 --> 01:28:27,679
Okay.
>> Did you get your question answered?

1218
01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:30,159
» Yes, I did. Thank you very much.
>> I just had a question on the usage of

1219
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:34,239
the building. Yeah.
>> Are we are we using the building? And

1220
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:40,159
maybe Kisha could answer since you're on
the parks. Are we using that building?

1221
01:28:37,199 --> 01:28:43,040
» It's unusable right now. That's a hole
in the I mean there is a bull.

1222
01:28:42,639 --> 01:28:45,199
» Okay.
>> Okay.

1223
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:48,880
» There's also internal stuff that has to
be taken care of.

1224
01:28:45,760 --> 01:28:52,960
» So that was my question
whether or not we're going to sink money

1225
01:28:51,600 --> 01:28:58,800
to this building or whether we're going
to whether we should just demo it. It's

1226
01:28:54,880 --> 01:29:02,080
been a lot of discussion regarding
the building. We originally thought that

1227
01:29:00,880 --> 01:29:06,560
we could get some grant money through
another CDBG. We got turned down for

1228
01:29:04,080 --> 01:29:14,880
that because we had two other CDBG in
the same DR category. Um, so this was

1229
01:29:10,960 --> 01:29:18,239
promised to the park last year because
it didn't make the capital improvement.

1230
01:29:16,480 --> 01:29:21,920
This will be coming out of the general
fund because it did not make correct

1231
01:29:20,400 --> 01:29:26,159
because it did not make the capital
improvement project.

1232
01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:29,360
a budget amendment because it was not in
the budget.

1233
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:33,120
» So, this is extra money in addition to
what the budget is, but last year it was

1234
01:29:32,080 --> 01:29:36,480
supposed to make it into capital
improvement. It didn't get in there

1235
01:29:34,880 --> 01:29:41,040
because it it had already been approved
by the time like right the next week

1236
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:44,960
afterwards. Um, didn't do it last year
because we thought we were going to get

1237
01:29:42,239 --> 01:29:48,800
the grant. We didn't get the grant. So,
um, it's gotten increasingly worse.

1238
01:29:47,360 --> 01:29:53,679
We're going to fix the outside and then
worry about the inside. So, this will be

1239
01:29:51,760 --> 01:29:56,159
additional amendment put into My
question is

1240
01:29:55,360 --> 01:29:59,600
» so cost
>> are we going to use the building?

1241
01:29:57,920 --> 01:30:03,760
» Yes. The hope is to
>> if we're going to use it because we're

1242
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:08,159
putting 18,000 in your roof.
>> I've heard a lot we had a lot of

1243
01:30:05,199 --> 01:30:10,560
discussion previous even before you you
started.

1244
01:30:08,719 --> 01:30:12,800
» Oh, I've discussed it with them several
times.

1245
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:18,800
» We had a lot of discussion about it was
built as a heat a warming shed. It's

1246
01:30:15,280 --> 01:30:21,440
really not built to be useful.
So, I just want to make sure we're not

1247
01:30:20,880 --> 01:30:25,520
just throwing
>> I threw that same stuff out there many

1248
01:30:23,520 --> 01:30:30,320
times. I said, "What is our purpose for
this?" Because if we put $40,000 into

1249
01:30:27,920 --> 01:30:35,120
this, are we going to get use out of it
to where it's significant rather than

1250
01:30:32,320 --> 01:30:39,920
just sat there empty? Um, they've pushed
back extremely. Am I wrong? Um, yes,

1251
01:30:38,159 --> 01:30:42,719
that this is they're they're going to
center that around some other things

1252
01:30:41,360 --> 01:30:45,679
that are coming up in the park.
>> Okay. I just don't want to throw a roof

1253
01:30:44,159 --> 01:30:48,920
on the building that's just going to sit
there and

1254
01:30:49,120 --> 01:30:53,440
Okay.
>> Any other questions?

1255
01:30:50,719 --> 01:31:00,239
» Yep. That's been my concern, too, that
because it hasn't been utilized to the

1256
01:30:56,080 --> 01:31:06,719
max in the in the uh past and we've had
several several uses or several groups

1257
01:31:04,400 --> 01:31:10,800
that tried to use it and it just doesn't
it just doesn't work out for whatever

1258
01:31:08,480 --> 01:31:14,960
reason. And I'm concerned too about
putting that kind of money into it

1259
01:31:12,400 --> 01:31:20,320
because again, it was not built as a
permanent structure. And I wish we'd

1260
01:31:18,639 --> 01:31:24,159
have gotten the grant because that grant
would have taken care of everything. It

1261
01:31:22,080 --> 01:31:28,719
would have given us a new pavilion and
then we wouldn't have had to worry about

1262
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:35,040
this. But didn't happen. So, um I
understand wanting to wanting to do this

1263
01:31:31,920 --> 01:31:39,120
to to give it some immediate use, but I
still think it's too much money to put

1264
01:31:36,560 --> 01:31:43,679
into that building. Is there still a
furnace in there? Hot water tank.

1265
01:31:41,440 --> 01:31:47,040
» I think so. It's heated all winter. Is
it winterized in the winter?

1266
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:50,480
» The water's not turned on, just the
electricity. So there's

1267
01:31:48,800 --> 01:31:54,480
» there's nothing to freeze, you know,
basically.

1268
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:59,920
» I miss the beginning of this talking
about you know the furnace works.

1269
01:31:57,679 --> 01:32:02,480
» To my knowledge, it worked in the past.
I don't know why it wouldn't.

1270
01:32:01,199 --> 01:32:03,679
» When was the last time it was turned on?
Do you know?

1271
01:32:02,960 --> 01:32:08,159
» I do not know.
>> Was it when our American Legion left?

1272
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:11,920
Probably. And they left three.
>> I'm not that I'm newer to the

1273
01:32:10,239 --> 01:32:14,159
» They left one before me. Yeah. Okay.
Thank you.

1274
01:32:12,880 --> 01:32:16,480
» Question. I'm sorry.
>> When was the last time it was even

1275
01:32:15,199 --> 01:32:19,600
turned on the heater? I mean, when was
the last time the building was entered

1276
01:32:17,760 --> 01:32:22,800
for use rather than just inspection?
>> Yeah. It was American.

1277
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:26,719
» Yeah. So, that was years ago.
>> Couple years.

1278
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:31,120
» I just kind of want to run a parallel
here. We had a parks fundraiser and

1279
01:32:29,199 --> 01:32:36,000
said, "Why don't we just spend the money
to get what we need?" Um, some of you

1280
01:32:34,560 --> 01:32:41,040
have come to the parks meeting, some of
you haven't. I wasn't here before. I I

1281
01:32:38,639 --> 01:32:46,639
want to express this. We have a parks
commission that want to grow our parks,

1282
01:32:44,480 --> 01:32:53,679
want to grow our people that are
attending. Um, there is ideas to not

1283
01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:56,880
make it non-desirable in North Park.
Just because one grant didn't come

1284
01:32:55,120 --> 01:33:01,840
through doesn't mean we can't apply for
other grants. Um,

1285
01:33:00,320 --> 01:33:05,520
this is just what I want to say as a
city manager that goes to these park

1286
01:33:03,199 --> 01:33:11,520
meetings and also as a is coming to the
council at the table. I think it's very

1287
01:33:07,760 --> 01:33:16,000
important that you have is it three
people, four people that attend park,

1288
01:33:13,199 --> 01:33:20,280
five people, six people that attend park
meetings in here. Um,

1289
01:33:20,480 --> 01:33:27,440
the previous item, you know, you stated
why you didn't think that we should do a

1290
01:33:25,679 --> 01:33:30,960
fundraiser. Why can't we just put it in
the budget? They've been asking for this

1291
01:33:28,960 --> 01:33:34,480
for two years. They want to build other
things and other the we want to put some

1292
01:33:33,120 --> 01:33:40,960
pickle ball courts out there. We're
looking at that. Um to me, the the

1293
01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:44,560
reason I've pushed back so hard on this
was the same reason that you had. We're

1294
01:33:42,639 --> 01:33:47,840
putting a lot of money into this. From
what I heard before, it wasn't used a

1295
01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:52,000
lot. How are we going to use it? Are we
going to use it for different things

1296
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:56,719
than we used it from before? I' I've
I've killed it to death on this. Um I

1297
01:33:55,040 --> 01:34:01,840
support this. And the reason I support
this is because there is a vision to

1298
01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:07,840
have many more activities in the future
in the parks. And I think if council

1299
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:12,560
doesn't approve it, that's completely up
to you. But you are going to see another

1300
01:34:10,800 --> 01:34:17,840
parks commission that just turned over
and not feel like we're supporting the

1301
01:34:14,960 --> 01:34:22,800
parks moving forward. Um that doesn't
mean that you have to approve this. That

1302
01:34:20,000 --> 01:34:26,560
that's not how I feel. But if we want to
see growth and we want to see things

1303
01:34:24,480 --> 01:34:31,120
happen, it's got to start somewhere. And
I think this is something that they have

1304
01:34:28,560 --> 01:34:35,360
put as their priority and you have a
commission and I'm a firm believer if

1305
01:34:33,679 --> 01:34:39,760
you you have a commission of volunteers
that come together and they have pushed

1306
01:34:37,280 --> 01:34:44,960
really hard and I have pushed back and
I'm going to support this um because I

1307
01:34:42,960 --> 01:34:47,920
think it is their priority and what they
felt was number one on their list.

1308
01:34:47,120 --> 01:34:51,840
» So our [clears throat] administrator
supports it, but we need to know what

1309
01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:55,040
council wants to do. Um, I've heard from
a couple. Yes, I've heard a couple. Not

1310
01:34:54,400 --> 01:34:59,920
maybe not.
>> I'm all for it. We have been after this

1311
01:34:57,120 --> 01:35:03,199
for she said a couple of years now.
>> Building things just sitting there

1312
01:35:01,280 --> 01:35:07,760
getting worse and worse and we could be
utilizing it if it had new roof fixer

1313
01:35:06,400 --> 01:35:12,080
upper [clears throat] stuff going on. We
could do a lot of things down there and

1314
01:35:10,480 --> 01:35:15,840
we plan on doing a lot of things down
there. So,

1315
01:35:13,600 --> 01:35:18,560
» is that in the form of a motion?
>> I will make that motion.

1316
01:35:17,520 --> 01:35:22,239
» I'll support it.
>> Thank you. We have a motion and support.

1317
01:35:19,920 --> 01:35:25,280
had a question on the I'm assuming that
of our bids Barnes is our old bid then

1318
01:35:24,719 --> 01:35:28,080
or
>> Okay. So, I want to explain that to you

1319
01:35:26,719 --> 01:35:32,800
because we had a lot of discussion about
that. I wanted I I don't know if you did

1320
01:35:30,960 --> 01:35:36,639
any more research on that or not as far
as apples to apples bids because the

1321
01:35:34,880 --> 01:35:39,199
bids were not apples to apples.
>> Okay.

1322
01:35:37,040 --> 01:35:43,280
» The 13 because I said we are
municipality. We have to take the lowest

1323
01:35:41,120 --> 01:35:46,639
bid. If we do not take the lowest bid,
we have to justify why we're not taking

1324
01:35:44,960 --> 01:35:50,880
the lowest bid. There were two things.
There wasn't patient sappa that I

1325
01:35:48,639 --> 01:35:57,760
believe was on the 13,000.
>> Um and then there was also addition

1326
01:35:54,960 --> 01:36:04,080
» um OSV which I even pushed back on that
and said you know how much are we

1327
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:11,679
talking $500, $5,000 whatever. Um,
so as far as that goes, I don't know if

1328
01:36:07,360 --> 01:36:15,920
you've Yeah, cuz this one here, um, the
right way rope one because there's going

1329
01:36:14,239 --> 01:36:20,639
to try to use existing materials. If you
went up for the gutters and the fascia,

1330
01:36:18,560 --> 01:36:25,360
if you go up there, there's no way of
using what we have a lot of it. So

1331
01:36:23,600 --> 01:36:30,560
you're looking, you know, they say this
much, but um but you know, if they use

1332
01:36:28,800 --> 01:36:34,320
any, you know, have to purchase anything
else, that's going to be more on the

1333
01:36:32,239 --> 01:36:39,040
final cost. So you're looking at this
one here of being a lot more than what

1334
01:36:37,840 --> 01:36:42,639
it sets.
>> Okay. All right. And I know Barnes has a

1335
01:36:40,960 --> 01:36:44,639
very good reputation. They did the Brook
here in Gladwin. I think they did West

1336
01:36:44,080 --> 01:36:47,360
Branches.
>> And I He's semi-retired right now, too,

1337
01:36:46,560 --> 01:36:50,480
I think. So
>> he's got a lot does a lot of work.

1338
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:55,119
» Does a lot of roofing.
>> Yeah. Now, so he did this he did this

1339
01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:59,040
price for us last year. This
>> he held the price for a year.

1340
01:36:56,639 --> 01:37:04,880
» This was a year ago's price and he's
willing to honor this price. M you

1341
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:09,600
» thinking that materials are more
expensive than last year, but we have

1342
01:37:07,760 --> 01:37:11,760
multiple conversations going and that is
really quite inappropriate

1343
01:37:11,040 --> 01:37:14,719
» question.
>> Yes. Thank you.

1344
01:37:12,560 --> 01:37:18,320
» Where's the original bid from Rightway?
>> That's what mine says.

1345
01:37:16,000 --> 01:37:24,000
» There's two of them.
>> Oh, there's another one.

1346
01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:28,080
Oh, it's where
>> things you've already accepted a motion.

1347
01:37:26,960 --> 01:37:33,600
» Yeah, we can have
>> we can have

1348
01:37:30,159 --> 01:37:39,199
I see two channels. I didn't understand
why there were two.

1349
01:37:36,639 --> 01:37:43,920
» One is for fashion
like it looks

1350
01:37:41,600 --> 01:37:46,880
» because they weren't I got to go back
and get

1351
01:37:45,520 --> 01:37:54,080
» and that building would not been
desirable. I I would like to know uh

1352
01:37:51,360 --> 01:37:57,600
Deb, maybe you can help with this or
anybody on purchase commission really.

1353
01:37:55,840 --> 01:38:02,480
What are the plans for this building?
Because as long as I've been here, that

1354
01:37:59,679 --> 01:38:05,920
building has been not used at all for
anything really except for by the

1355
01:38:04,239 --> 01:38:08,480
American Legion,
>> right?

1356
01:38:06,560 --> 01:38:12,000
» Nobody nobody pushed it. Nobody I mean
it wasn't like out there saying, "Okay,

1357
01:38:10,320 --> 01:38:16,320
this is for [clears throat] we can have
parties have parties there." And there's

1358
01:38:14,400 --> 01:38:22,080
all kinds of things. Once the roof gets
on there, they plan on doing like maybe

1359
01:38:18,719 --> 01:38:24,080
pickle ball for people, you can do like
even basketball.

1360
01:38:22,880 --> 01:38:26,639
» How does the building have anything to
do with pickle ball? They play pickle

1361
01:38:25,440 --> 01:38:30,840
ball, don't there?
>> Well, they they would have like

1362
01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:39,360
» But I mean, you can't just just leave
that set there and

1363
01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:41,920
» Okay. But what is my my Can can you
answer what is the plan to what kind of

1364
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:46,639
things?
>> Um, well, it used to be an ice rink.

1365
01:38:44,400 --> 01:38:50,080
Yeah, I know. We all know that.
>> It was a warming station.

1366
01:38:47,679 --> 01:38:58,320
» Okay. And this past winter, we had an
ice rink built down in the north park

1367
01:38:55,199 --> 01:39:02,480
» with a shed. Well, now I think this
would be an appropriate place

1368
01:39:00,239 --> 01:39:06,320
» to have an ice rink, a warming house, a
place for, you know, hot chocolate and,

1369
01:39:05,440 --> 01:39:11,679
you know,
>> it' be a nice little place to have a an

1370
01:39:08,639 --> 01:39:19,280
ice rink in there. There's lights for my
set up at night time.

1371
01:39:14,159 --> 01:39:23,679
Um so that's just one thing. Um maybe uh
you know we're looking at a lot of

1372
01:39:20,560 --> 01:39:29,040
different things actually. Um we have
the disc golf course down there.

1373
01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:33,199
» Do we hold you know some tournament down
there

1374
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:37,360
city tournaments that
>> we could you know that would be a place

1375
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:42,320
to
to have it set up for tournaments. Wow.

1376
01:39:40,560 --> 01:39:45,920
» Mhm.
>> When you say basketball, are you guys

1377
01:39:43,920 --> 01:39:50,320
are are are we going are we taking the
parking lot and trying to move it back

1378
01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:54,800
into more of a facility like the pickle
ball basketball? Is where does where

1379
01:39:53,199 --> 01:39:58,560
does that go? Go ahead.
>> One of our members just showed up at a

1380
01:39:56,960 --> 01:40:02,159
meeting. We had a meeting over there at
the North Park. Uh what was that lady's

1381
01:40:01,600 --> 01:40:03,920
name?
>> Deb Ferrell.

1382
01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:05,119
» Pardon?
>> De Ferrell.

1383
01:40:04,480 --> 01:40:08,560
» De Frell.
>> Oh, yeah.

1384
01:40:05,360 --> 01:40:13,679
» Deerrell. She went out and she contacted
the administrator for Gus Macker three

1385
01:40:11,280 --> 01:40:19,360
on three basketball tournaments.
>> All right. And she got the fire started.

1386
01:40:17,440 --> 01:40:22,480
Okay. I don't know if any of your
children or you participated when you

1387
01:40:21,119 --> 01:40:24,800
were younger in a custom macker
tournament. Yeah.

1388
01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:29,119
» But they bring in their own courts. We
got enough room. They set up their own

1389
01:40:26,639 --> 01:40:34,719
courts. They got the cement slab there.
All right. And that's one of the

1390
01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:38,080
activities where if we get that to
happen in Gladwood, it'll be a yearly

1391
01:40:37,040 --> 01:40:43,040
event.
>> And that'll draw in people from

1392
01:40:40,960 --> 01:40:48,159
200, 300 miles away.
>> All right. Plus local teams. They have

1393
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:51,600
threeon-ree tournaments from 8 years old
to 30 or something.

1394
01:40:49,679 --> 01:40:56,320
» Yep, I know what it is.
>> I'm just one that's one activity we

1395
01:40:53,760 --> 01:41:01,840
talked about and you can run it out for
family reunions and birthday parties.

1396
01:40:59,199 --> 01:41:06,800
Current pavilion typically rented out
every weekend of the summer.

1397
01:41:04,480 --> 01:41:08,800
» Is the current pavilion rented out 75%
of weekends? Every weekend?

1398
01:41:07,920 --> 01:41:11,440
» Which pavilion?
>> The big pavilion in our city park like

1399
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:15,199
one
>> in our city park. We turn away people to

1400
01:41:13,520 --> 01:41:16,800
rent pavilions on Saturdays for some
reason

1401
01:41:15,840 --> 01:41:18,560
» throughout the whole summer.
>> Throughout the whole summer.

1402
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:20,239
» Okay.
>> Not only that,

1403
01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:25,199
» I think that was the way
>> they got we have the pavilion rented out

1404
01:41:22,480 --> 01:41:28,480
probably
most of next summer already. That's

1405
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:30,960
great because when we before we did
this, I don't know if any of you

1406
01:41:29,440 --> 01:41:35,600
remember, they think they only rented it
one or two times a year for the decade

1407
01:41:33,679 --> 01:41:39,040
before the American Legion took it over.
So that I think that's why why you're

1408
01:41:37,440 --> 01:41:42,080
hearing concern is that
>> it was not used even before the American

1409
01:41:40,719 --> 01:41:45,440
Legion was there. But thank you for
sharing that.

1410
01:41:44,480 --> 01:41:49,760
» Yeah,
>> the the rope is the start with the sopet

1411
01:41:48,480 --> 01:41:53,040
fascia and the eaves.
>> Yes,

1412
01:41:50,639 --> 01:41:57,280
» it was a what else needs to be done to
this building before it's rented again?

1413
01:41:55,040 --> 01:42:01,840
basically the inside of the building
from the hole in the roof. All right.

1414
01:41:59,840 --> 01:42:06,960
And the water dripping in there. The
restroom, there's only got one restroom

1415
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:13,040
in there. All right. And the drywall on
the west wall of that restroom is full

1416
01:42:10,719 --> 01:42:16,000
of black mold. So the drywall would have
to be taken out.

1417
01:42:14,000 --> 01:42:21,040
» And that doesn't include in this quote.
This is just the roof. So there's more

1418
01:42:18,560 --> 01:42:24,560
work. So this is a snowball.
Well, basically the rest of the work on

1419
01:42:22,800 --> 01:42:30,560
the inside, if you don't want to make it
look like a a banquet center, all right,

1420
01:42:28,080 --> 01:42:34,080
we can use the existing carpeting and
the drywall can be done by

1421
01:42:32,239 --> 01:42:38,480
» if there's a hole in the roof. Isn't the
carpeting ruined? Black mold water over

1422
01:42:37,199 --> 01:42:40,480
the bathroom.
>> Just in the bathroom.

1423
01:42:39,440 --> 01:42:42,639
» That's it right now.
>> That we know [clears throat] now,

1424
01:42:41,760 --> 01:42:45,280
» right?
>> But if we let that thing sit another

1425
01:42:44,239 --> 01:42:47,760
winter,
>> the snow should be

1426
01:42:46,639 --> 01:42:51,119
» the building will be condemned. It
should be a dis decision on either.

1427
01:42:49,760 --> 01:42:54,400
» I feel like it's a cart before the
horse. We should have had a little bit

1428
01:42:52,480 --> 01:42:56,639
more information before just approving a
bid.

1429
01:42:55,199 --> 01:42:58,719
» Well, and it sounds like parks got a lot
of the information,

1430
01:42:57,360 --> 01:43:04,199
» right? But we didn't.
>> All right. Are there any other

1431
01:42:59,920 --> 01:43:04,199
questions, comments, or concerns?

1432
01:43:04,560 --> 01:43:09,679
» I know.
Definitely.

1433
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:12,560
» Somebody else had wanted to do a
cornhole turnup there.

1434
01:43:11,440 --> 01:43:14,159
» So, I think there are some
possibilities.

1435
01:43:13,520 --> 01:43:16,639
» I think so.
>> Do we have a motion?

1436
01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:19,119
» We do have a motion. We have support. We
just had some discussion. Any further

1437
01:43:18,159 --> 01:43:24,639
questions, comments, or [clears throat]
concerns?

1438
01:43:21,199 --> 01:43:28,560
» Okay. All in favor of approving the roof
replacement for the North Park Pavilion,

1439
01:43:26,560 --> 01:43:30,880
please motion by saying I.
>> I.

1440
01:43:29,440 --> 01:43:34,880
» All oppose, please say nay.
>> Nay.

1441
01:43:31,679 --> 01:43:39,040
» Thank you. Updated police policies.
Chief Binger, would you like to talk to

1442
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:43,760
us about the many pages that we've got
from your policy? I couldn't

1443
01:43:42,719 --> 01:43:49,360
» Yeah, I don't have it, but I do have
questions after it gets done.

1444
01:43:44,960 --> 01:43:55,679
» Yeah. Uh so the we just had a lean audit
which is any department that has CGI CGI

1445
01:43:53,040 --> 01:44:01,920
is criminal justice information uh on a
three-year basis gets audited by the

1446
01:43:57,760 --> 01:44:06,560
state of Michigan. um we have policies.
So some of the policies that you see we

1447
01:44:03,679 --> 01:44:11,280
already have cop we already have uh the
policies in place. However these are

1448
01:44:08,400 --> 01:44:15,920
updated and then obviously with the
changes in three years um with cyber and

1449
01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:20,000
everything else most of these are
related to

1450
01:44:18,000 --> 01:44:25,360
IT infrastructure
for the department what we have to have.

1451
01:44:22,400 --> 01:44:28,719
Uh so these policies are straight from
the state of Michigan website that uh

1452
01:44:27,280 --> 01:44:31,760
basically these are the policies that
the state of Michigan suggests that you

1453
01:44:30,080 --> 01:44:36,159
have or not even suggest they say that
you will have. Um so that's where I got

1454
01:44:34,159 --> 01:44:41,360
all those policies those policies have
been shared with Net Express our current

1455
01:44:37,760 --> 01:44:47,440
IT provider um so that they can make any
changes to our infrastructure that they

1456
01:44:43,679 --> 01:44:50,880
that the policies um deem and they are
currently either working on that or

1457
01:44:48,719 --> 01:44:57,719
making plans to work on that.
>> Okay. Um, is there attorney reviewed

1458
01:44:53,760 --> 01:44:57,719
these policies and procedures?

1459
01:44:59,280 --> 01:45:04,639
» That's a question for you, Kim.
>> Well, no. I mean,

1460
01:45:02,639 --> 01:45:06,639
» you didn't say that they needed attorney
reviewed.

1461
01:45:05,280 --> 01:45:11,679
» No, I'm That's why I'm curious.
>> Like, that's would be in my mind. Step

1462
01:45:08,960 --> 01:45:16,239
two, policy. Go to a lawyer. Um, that
was my only question. Uh, there is a lot

1463
01:45:13,840 --> 01:45:18,639
to be honest. I didn't get through 10
pages. I'm like, this is hurting my

1464
01:45:17,679 --> 01:45:22,639
eyes. And none of it
>> there is a lot. Especially if because a

1465
01:45:20,719 --> 01:45:24,320
lot of it is it wording
>> hard to read.

1466
01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:26,800
» So yes,
>> right. And this comes from the state.

1467
01:45:25,760 --> 01:45:28,800
» This comes straight from the state of
Michigan.

1468
01:45:27,199 --> 01:45:32,400
» Yes. And their attorneys are
>> Yeah. They would they would not put it

1469
01:45:30,159 --> 01:45:39,818
out. It was sample um sample policies
that are out on the Michigan state

1470
01:45:34,560 --> 01:45:43,440
website for criminal justice information
[clears throat] agencies.

1471
01:45:41,040 --> 01:45:49,040
» That's what No, that that was my point.
My point is they've already been vetted.

1472
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:54,560
They've already been posted. And so
We are now just adopting them as our

1473
01:45:52,560 --> 01:45:56,320
current and bringing some things up to
speed.

1474
01:45:55,040 --> 01:46:01,280
» The one thing I didn't say is that all
these policies that were on there, their

1475
01:45:58,639 --> 01:46:05,920
their revision or their update dates was
2026. So these are these are the

1476
01:46:04,708 --> 01:46:07,920
[clears throat] newest version of the
policies.

1477
01:46:06,480 --> 01:46:10,960
» That's good to know. Any other questions
for our chief?

1478
01:46:08,719 --> 01:46:14,400
» I So I I'm I'm going to say the same
thing that you did, Sarah, about reading

1479
01:46:12,719 --> 01:46:19,280
this. I read it and I was like, what in
the world? But what I kept coming back

1480
01:46:16,400 --> 01:46:24,480
to is like the account management. It's
saying that [clears throat]

1481
01:46:22,320 --> 01:46:28,560
like establish conditions for group
enroll membership. Okay, what what are

1482
01:46:26,719 --> 01:46:32,000
you going to do to establish that? Every
time I was reading something, I'm like,

1483
01:46:29,920 --> 01:46:35,520
okay, but it's just saying that this is
what it's like this is the position and

1484
01:46:34,159 --> 01:46:38,560
this is what you need to be doing, but
what are you going to do to do that is

1485
01:46:37,040 --> 01:46:41,040
what I you don't have to answer all that
because there's like a gazillion of

1486
01:46:39,679 --> 01:46:44,239
those questions. A lot of that goes to
Net Express, honestly, and stuff that

1487
01:46:42,880 --> 01:46:48,639
they've probably either already been
doing. Uh, most of this information

1488
01:46:46,159 --> 01:46:54,480
comes from NIST, which is uh they give
cyber security um updates and all that

1489
01:46:51,600 --> 01:46:57,520
stuff. So, this could some of this stuff
we already have in place with our

1490
01:46:56,000 --> 01:47:01,199
current network, but this gives Net
Express what needs to be done if it

1491
01:46:59,679 --> 01:47:04,960
currently is not.
>> So, you're going to actually go through

1492
01:47:02,880 --> 01:47:08,719
and like
create, enable, modify, disable, remove

1493
01:47:07,119 --> 01:47:11,920
information systems, accounts, and blah
blah. That's actually the these are the

1494
01:47:10,480 --> 01:47:15,119
things steps you're going to take each
>> correct and usually that one probably

1495
01:47:13,119 --> 01:47:21,360
had a time frame usually like what that
means is so if somebody leaves the

1496
01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:24,800
department that probably gives us I
can't remember the exact date but it's

1497
01:47:22,639 --> 01:47:29,679
usually a set number of hours for almost
immediately they will be the access to

1498
01:47:26,960 --> 01:47:31,840
that system will be will
>> yeah okay

1499
01:47:30,639 --> 01:47:34,719
» and that's why it was so important that
we get with Net Express to see if

1500
01:47:33,199 --> 01:47:38,374
there's anything that they could not do
which they have not informed they've had

1501
01:47:36,400 --> 01:47:41,280
these policies for a while
[clears throat] uh and reviewed them and

1502
01:47:39,679 --> 01:47:43,119
they have not came to me and said that
there's nothing that we can't do with

1503
01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:46,320
this
>> and they have to be mean certified too

1504
01:47:45,199 --> 01:47:49,600
they can't work on
>> yes

1505
01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:55,360
» yes so they're certified by the state
>> I my I would entertain a motion to

1506
01:47:52,719 --> 01:47:59,334
approve the updated police policies
provided by our chief I'll support it

1507
01:47:57,920 --> 01:48:01,920
» okay we have a motion and
[clears throat] a support any further

1508
01:48:00,560 --> 01:48:06,719
questions comments thank you for doing
this if you had to read every word of

1509
01:48:03,600 --> 01:48:11,520
this God bless you um I have read policy
I like policy this I like

1510
01:48:09,119 --> 01:48:17,600
» I read through it and like I like as I
said if you're not and if you don't

1511
01:48:13,199 --> 01:48:20,800
understand IT jargon and it's it it's a
lot.

1512
01:48:18,400 --> 01:48:24,320
» Thank you for bringing us. Any further
questions or comments hearing? None. All

1513
01:48:22,719 --> 01:48:27,280
in favor of approving the updated police
policies, please motion by saying I.

1514
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:33,600
» I.
>> All oppose, please say nay.

1515
01:48:29,280 --> 01:48:38,239
» Thank you. Kimberly household ward.
>> Yeah, you're you're up for the waste

1516
01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:41,920
day. Okay. So the 19th is the hazard
waste day. We've got everything in

1517
01:48:39,679 --> 01:48:47,119
place. Council approved a new fee
schedule. We've had all but two

1518
01:48:44,159 --> 01:48:51,760
communities commit. Um I took it to the
county board today and um they will

1519
01:48:49,760 --> 01:48:58,080
probably be hopefully putting on their
next agenda to contribute. We just got

1520
01:48:54,159 --> 01:49:02,320
all the information back. Um there's a
couple questions. Tires, we've decided

1521
01:49:00,400 --> 01:49:08,639
that we're only going to take four
because it's not commercial. I did have

1522
01:49:04,560 --> 01:49:16,239
one community reach out and say that
they wanted to know um because they have

1523
01:49:12,239 --> 01:49:21,040
some elderly people that are ADA and
they've done some blight cleanup and

1524
01:49:18,000 --> 01:49:26,239
they wanted to bring the tires over. So
I said that I would bring it to council,

1525
01:49:22,960 --> 01:49:29,760
ask if we could establish some different
kind of price policy whether we would

1526
01:49:28,080 --> 01:49:31,679
take them, whether we wouldn't. I know
Marriott has reached out. Did you get a

1527
01:49:31,360 --> 01:49:36,000
response?
>> Yes, I did. Um, last year I can tell you

1528
01:49:33,679 --> 01:49:40,480
that the tires were 350 per tire for
everyone that came in. Um, Austin from

1529
01:49:38,400 --> 01:49:44,639
Myers for Tires said that number is now
$6 a tire.

1530
01:49:42,080 --> 01:49:48,159
» So, it's almost not quite doubled. Um,
for the bigger tires like your semi is

1531
01:49:46,880 --> 01:49:51,360
now $20 a tire.
>> We don't take those.

1532
01:49:49,119 --> 01:49:55,600
» And then we do not take tractor, but he
said if somebody was to take them, it

1533
01:49:52,880 --> 01:49:58,080
would be $30 to $40.
>> We don't take them. We don't want our

1534
01:49:56,880 --> 01:50:00,159
guys to stack them
>> and load them.

1535
01:49:59,199 --> 01:50:03,040
» It [clears throat] does. It is supposed
to be a residential household,

1536
01:50:02,000 --> 01:50:05,920
» right?
>> So, we have two questions. Is that what

1537
01:50:04,480 --> 01:50:09,199
you're asking? First is what do we do
with tires? Are we going to charge

1538
01:50:07,600 --> 01:50:13,520
someone brings more than four?
>> Uh, and second, the two communities that

1539
01:50:11,679 --> 01:50:18,239
don't participate, how are we going to
handle that? Um, you know, there was a

1540
01:50:16,639 --> 01:50:22,239
something buddy put out something today
that I didn't think of. Could if their

1541
01:50:20,400 --> 01:50:26,159
community doesn't participate, could we
charge like a flat fee for them to drop

1542
01:50:24,159 --> 01:50:30,560
their stuff off and if they decided to,
they could or not? Um,

1543
01:50:28,719 --> 01:50:34,480
» do we know which townships aren't
participating?

1544
01:50:32,480 --> 01:50:38,880
» Um, we have hay that I haven't got a
response from and um, Sherman, but

1545
01:50:36,880 --> 01:50:43,199
Sherman said they didn't they postponed
it at their last meeting in August. So,

1546
01:50:40,480 --> 01:50:46,800
it goes back to the township on um,
September 14th, which is next this

1547
01:50:44,960 --> 01:50:50,080
coming Monday. So, they wouldn't know
till then. So, they may be

1548
01:50:48,400 --> 01:50:52,239
participating. We just don't and they
participated in the

1549
01:50:51,119 --> 01:50:56,560
» always participated
>> and the community or the the

1550
01:50:54,639 --> 01:51:00,080
commissioners are going to talk to the
>> I'm sure that they I would think they

1551
01:50:58,159 --> 01:51:04,080
» I would say even if they don't weren't
they one of the smaller ones too hey

1552
01:51:02,400 --> 01:51:07,600
» I thought they had a smaller amount to
show up anyway I mean how and who's

1553
01:51:06,159 --> 01:51:09,600
going to say
>> well they [clears throat] take notes on

1554
01:51:09,040 --> 01:51:12,480
who
>> yeah but do you want to be that person

1555
01:51:10,719 --> 01:51:15,840
who says that one township you know you
came here with a bunch of stuff now take

1556
01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:18,560
it somewhere else but well how do you
all feel

1557
01:51:16,880 --> 01:51:21,440
» I feel if we let people get away with it
then the other the other townships are

1558
01:51:20,320 --> 01:51:24,239
going to go, well, they didn't have to
pay and they still let their res

1559
01:51:23,042 --> 01:51:26,159
[clears throat]
thought today.

1560
01:51:24,960 --> 01:51:29,600
» Has that has that happened in the past
where we've gotten contributions from

1561
01:51:27,520 --> 01:51:33,119
other municipalities and not from
others. So, this has already happened. I

1562
01:51:31,119 --> 01:51:37,599
mean, we've already set the precedents,
>> but you're right, it is hard. Um, but

1563
01:51:35,440 --> 01:51:41,280
this is Yeah. So,
>> so

1564
01:51:39,199 --> 01:51:45,920
one of the things that, you know, we get
and we get the return frequent flyers,

1565
01:51:43,599 --> 01:51:50,159
they go home and load up their truck and
they come back three times. Um, we're

1566
01:51:48,320 --> 01:51:56,000
not going to do that.
>> I'm I'm just going to tell you that. Um,

1567
01:51:52,800 --> 01:52:01,520
we have a police present with us. Um,
which we appreciate. Um, but, uh, I am,

1568
01:52:00,377 --> 01:52:07,360
[clears throat] you know, council's
comfortable or if whoever isn't, you

1569
01:52:03,760 --> 01:52:14,239
know, running this show totally. Um, I
say if they pay, we'll take the tires,

1570
01:52:10,800 --> 01:52:18,239
but they're going to pay per tire.
Somebody will go, "Well, we'll pay you

1571
01:52:15,679 --> 01:52:22,800
if we can take if we can take this whole
load behind me." Well, okay. And he

1572
01:52:20,719 --> 01:52:28,400
gives me 20 bucks. So, what's 20 bucks
going to do if they're 350 and now

1573
01:52:24,639 --> 01:52:34,320
they're $6 a tire? I think that we need
to let them know, right,

1574
01:52:30,719 --> 01:52:39,599
» that we are going to be charging them $6
a tire or they're going to take them

1575
01:52:35,760 --> 01:52:45,360
back. And and I'm not opposed to,
you know, if they pay, we'll chalk the

1576
01:52:42,480 --> 01:52:49,920
tires and when they get across the way,
which we can see anyway, we'll know and

1577
01:52:47,760 --> 01:52:54,400
they can unload all eight of them
because they've paid. I, you know, I'm

1578
01:52:51,920 --> 01:52:58,719
not opposed to that. And and we've got a
pretty good system for those of us that

1579
01:52:56,320 --> 01:53:03,760
check people in. So,
>> uh, so would you add like $6 per tire

1580
01:53:02,080 --> 01:53:08,480
over four? I mean to put it right on the
flyer to make sure that you are not

1581
01:53:05,520 --> 01:53:11,360
» I would because you know I may have I
may [clears throat] only have seven

1582
01:53:10,480 --> 01:53:13,360
tires
>> right

1583
01:53:11,679 --> 01:53:16,719
» and I'd rather somebody brings them and
I've told you this every year

1584
01:53:14,960 --> 01:53:19,840
» then roll no roll them down into the
Cedar River

1585
01:53:18,080 --> 01:53:24,960
» told you that every year
>> just one question on that who's doing

1586
01:53:23,040 --> 01:53:28,000
the financials on it
>> I don't know but you guys have to figure

1587
01:53:26,320 --> 01:53:31,679
that out [laughter]
>> I will tell you that I go down that

1588
01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:34,400
river a lot the entire time see they're
used I know, but that's cuz they do the

1589
01:53:33,840 --> 01:53:37,599
clean up now.
>> They did such a good job in cleaning it

1590
01:53:35,920 --> 01:53:40,800
up. It's looking so much better.
>> I would agree with council person

1591
01:53:38,880 --> 01:53:44,719
Darlington's let's add it right here if
you have more than four $6. Um, and then

1592
01:53:43,599 --> 01:53:47,679
unfortunately that means there's going
to be some work on uh our treasurer to

1593
01:53:46,800 --> 01:53:51,728
make sure we're doing this
appropriately. Um, that we're not cash

1594
01:53:50,000 --> 01:53:55,199
is one of those weird places. I
[clears throat] like that decision. Does

1595
01:53:53,040 --> 01:53:58,000
anyone not like it?
>> I think that's good. I I think we still

1596
01:53:56,880 --> 01:54:02,960
haven't answered the question about the
nonpartic

1597
01:54:00,000 --> 01:54:05,920
one up. Yeah, I think similar would
especially if they're rigging tires,

1598
01:54:04,400 --> 01:54:08,400
just the six bucks a tire if they're not
if they're in the township not

1599
01:54:07,360 --> 01:54:11,440
participating.
>> You know, there is another caveat here.

1600
01:54:09,920 --> 01:54:15,360
If the county contributes, which they
haven't committed yet, but they're

1601
01:54:13,760 --> 01:54:19,840
contributing for the whole county. So,
if we only have one place that don't

1602
01:54:17,920 --> 01:54:23,520
show up and they only have one person
that shows up, I don't think there's

1603
01:54:21,760 --> 01:54:29,760
» the one that usually only had one or two
cards did pay this year.

1604
01:54:25,520 --> 01:54:33,040
» The the hay and um Sherman are larger.
Okay,

1605
01:54:31,679 --> 01:54:36,880
» is probably not going to produce a ton
of traffic. I wouldn't think.

1606
01:54:34,639 --> 01:54:40,480
» Uh Sherman is one of our bigger ones. We
had it was Sherman's one. They're still

1607
01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:42,560
they're going to meet yet, right?
>> They're going to meet on September 14th,

1608
01:54:42,000 --> 01:54:46,800
Monday.
>> I think they'll probably come through.

1609
01:54:43,920 --> 01:54:50,400
It's I now we had five this morning and
now we have maybe possibly one. So, I

1610
01:54:49,199 --> 01:54:52,480
mean, it was a little different
discussion earlier.

1611
01:54:51,679 --> 01:54:53,920
» Did you have something you wanted to
add?

1612
01:54:52,639 --> 01:54:59,040
» I just wanted to add too on the fly.
You'll notice we did limit the um motor

1613
01:54:56,400 --> 01:55:01,119
oil to 5 gallons because we were having
55gallon drills.

1614
01:55:00,159 --> 01:55:04,719
» We were
>> Oh, and this is household. This isn't

1615
01:55:03,119 --> 01:55:08,239
commercial. So,
>> and that's what we're that's what we

1616
01:55:06,000 --> 01:55:13,520
were seeing. We were seeing those people
that have a business bringing all their

1617
01:55:11,599 --> 01:55:15,840
stuff every year and expecting us to
take it from them.

1618
01:55:14,400 --> 01:55:17,840
» Well, that's what drives your cost up
too because you're paying by the pound

1619
01:55:17,440 --> 01:55:22,560
for that.
>> And and we'll explain that. We'll

1620
01:55:19,520 --> 01:55:25,599
explain that to the people kindly that
you know

1621
01:55:23,119 --> 01:55:28,960
» and we also need volunteers. So please
anybody that's willing to work.

1622
01:55:27,440 --> 01:55:34,000
» So do we have those two questions to
answer before we move on? Sorry Council

1623
01:55:31,040 --> 01:55:39,760
Swinarski. We have two questions before
us. Uh I we've offered a solution to one

1624
01:55:37,760 --> 01:55:43,040
and possibly both. What did you want to
add?

1625
01:55:40,400 --> 01:55:49,520
No, I just wanted to make a comment that
Carol and Bernie Weaver and I will be

1626
01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:53,840
checking in the cars and so we have a
pretty good system going and one one

1627
01:55:51,679 --> 01:55:59,199
thing we do want to be extra careful
about this year is that we make sure we

1628
01:55:56,560 --> 01:56:04,159
put those we put them in the right
place. you know that it's if it's from

1629
01:56:01,280 --> 01:56:09,040
the township of Gladwin, we put them in
that spot and the city of Gladwin that

1630
01:56:06,400 --> 01:56:13,920
spot because Gladwin Township went up
quite a bit from last year. So, we just

1631
01:56:11,440 --> 01:56:18,080
want to make sure we do a good job of of
logging those in the right places. So,

1632
01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:21,040
» okay. So, do we have it? We have two
questions still. Do we have the answer

1633
01:56:19,119 --> 01:56:26,239
to number like the first one tires put
on here $6 over four? We're good charge.

1634
01:56:23,840 --> 01:56:30,719
These ladies have no problem saying,
right? And the second one was, and we

1635
01:56:28,400 --> 01:56:36,159
kind of have heard this, uh, if someone
doesn't pay, do we nyx them or since

1636
01:56:34,400 --> 01:56:40,719
we've not in the past and the county's
contributing? I do think this is a

1637
01:56:38,880 --> 01:56:45,440
unbelievable public service for our
environment, for our community. But I

1638
01:56:43,040 --> 01:56:49,119
would agree, right? Um, what do we offer
for free? How do you all feel about that

1639
01:56:46,960 --> 01:56:55,360
second piece? Like move forward, let
everyone in. If we have one or two that

1640
01:56:51,360 --> 01:57:00,320
don't, next year we'll try harder.
Well, we typically don't get a lot of

1641
01:56:57,360 --> 01:57:04,239
people that try to to that try to bring
us stuff if the if the township isn't

1642
01:57:02,719 --> 01:57:10,159
participating.
>> So, I think if we have like one person

1643
01:57:06,719 --> 01:57:12,960
from Grim and Grim doesn't participate,
>> are we going to turn them away? I don't

1644
01:57:11,920 --> 01:57:18,159
think so. Right.
>> I don't think so. Now, if we had a huge

1645
01:57:15,360 --> 01:57:22,480
problem with the with the townships not
participating, bringing us a bunch of

1646
01:57:20,080 --> 01:57:26,400
stuff, then yes, we'd have to crack down
on it. But I don't think if we've got

1647
01:57:24,639 --> 01:57:30,159
one or two people from these townships
that don't participate, I don't see us

1648
01:57:29,040 --> 01:57:32,480
turning them away.
>> I agree.

1649
01:57:30,719 --> 01:57:36,800
» And I get it. I get it that the ones
that are paying

1650
01:57:34,560 --> 01:57:42,480
are paying and yes, they everybody
should, but I don't think for two or

1651
01:57:39,760 --> 01:57:47,040
three people we should make a big deal.
>> I would agree. So anyone uh does do we

1652
01:57:45,840 --> 01:57:48,960
agree with council person?
>> I agree with you.

1653
01:57:47,760 --> 01:57:54,080
» Do you have the answers you need? Yep.
>> Okay. I don't think we need a motion on

1654
01:57:50,320 --> 01:57:58,320
this. So, we'll move on to water meter
discussion, Kimberly.

1655
01:57:55,760 --> 01:58:03,360
» Okay, this is kind of twofold. So, as
you know, for years, we've been trying

1656
01:58:00,639 --> 01:58:07,840
to get our water meters replaced. I'm in
a I'm at a standstill because I've asked

1657
01:58:06,000 --> 01:58:11,760
several times we have we're maybe
getting

1658
01:58:09,520 --> 01:58:15,920
two done a month, three done a month.
The last administrator didn't this

1659
01:58:13,679 --> 01:58:21,679
administrator that's just very temporary
right now. um

1660
01:58:19,040 --> 01:58:25,679
we don't have or we have the meters. Um
what I've been told is they can't get

1661
01:58:23,679 --> 01:58:30,480
into the house. So then we did the I did
the letter to let them know ahead of

1662
01:58:27,199 --> 01:58:34,000
time that they would have 10 days. Um it
just doesn't seem like the meters are

1663
01:58:31,760 --> 01:58:39,920
moving. So I'm bringing the discussion
back for two reasons. Is this something

1664
01:58:37,199 --> 01:58:46,639
We are down to three people right now
because we have one out um and we're

1665
01:58:42,400 --> 01:58:49,679
short one. Do we want to want us to get
some quotes to see what it would cost to

1666
01:58:48,159 --> 01:58:55,280
have them done? And this is why I'm
asking. We just replaced a meter that

1667
01:58:52,719 --> 01:59:00,080
was three years old. We have 20 to 25
meters that have not been working for 3

1668
01:58:57,599 --> 01:59:06,560
years. Now, how that works or how it's
worked in the past was we estimated what

1669
01:59:03,360 --> 01:59:10,480
their last 12 month average was and then
did it. Well, three years it could

1670
01:59:08,239 --> 01:59:14,320
change a whole lot. What if they have a
leak in that meantime? and what you

1671
01:59:12,000 --> 01:59:19,840
know, all this different stuff. Um, one
of the first ones came back for three

1672
01:59:16,320 --> 01:59:25,599
years ago with a $3,000 bill and I was
told that we have 20 to 25 meters and

1673
01:59:22,960 --> 01:59:31,119
that may be the case with all 20 to 25.
You're talking $60,000.

1674
01:59:28,320 --> 01:59:36,800
So, there's two. [clears throat] Um, all
of these 120ome meters right now that

1675
01:59:33,679 --> 01:59:41,119
we're behind, Karen has to manually
bill. She has to go through every single

1676
01:59:39,280 --> 01:59:46,159
one of them every single month. So, it's
taking all that time. Um, it's causing

1677
01:59:44,480 --> 01:59:51,599
there's some overtime involved. There's
some other areas that isn't getting

1678
01:59:48,239 --> 01:59:56,320
addressed. So, it's causing a lot more
strain on that position. We're not

1679
01:59:53,840 --> 02:00:02,639
getting the meters done. Um, yes, it is
our DPW guys job to do that, but it's

1680
01:59:58,960 --> 02:00:05,440
not getting done um because of short
a multitude of things.

1681
02:00:03,920 --> 02:00:10,239
» Do we have the meters?
>> We have 38 meters, but we've had them in

1682
02:00:08,560 --> 02:00:12,080
supply. Um,
>> I knew we talked about it when Jeff was

1683
02:00:11,760 --> 02:00:16,719
here.
>> Yeah. When we ordered a bunch, um, every

1684
02:00:14,639 --> 02:00:19,920
time we get one thing
>> solved, it's something else of why we

1685
02:00:18,239 --> 02:00:25,360
haven't replaced the meters. So, I'm
asking council to give me some advice on

1686
02:00:22,880 --> 02:00:31,360
how you want to do this because I don't
think having a potential 60,000 loss in

1687
02:00:28,239 --> 02:00:33,679
revenue is the right answer. So, um,
either

1688
02:00:31,679 --> 02:00:37,920
» I think we should get a bid for
>> to require

1689
02:00:36,080 --> 02:00:40,239
» two to replace the meter.
>> Mhm. So, I think you have to have two

1690
02:00:39,840 --> 02:00:42,480
guys.
>> Yeah.

1691
02:00:40,800 --> 02:00:46,239
» Well, we have to have two guys. Whether
a private contractor has two guys,

1692
02:00:44,719 --> 02:00:49,520
that's up to them.
>> And I know Beaverton just replace some

1693
02:00:48,159 --> 02:00:51,840
with grant money so I can reach out to
Shannon and kind of maybe get some

1694
02:00:51,440 --> 02:00:56,080
somebody
>> Why do we have to have two guys and not

1695
02:00:54,239 --> 02:01:00,560
somebody else? What do you mean by that?
What is this about

1696
02:00:58,639 --> 02:01:02,719
» two people to go in the house? I think
when you when anybody enters the house,

1697
02:01:02,400 --> 02:01:07,760
I think
>> we had a discussion about this prior and

1698
02:01:05,119 --> 02:01:11,280
that's what the standard was is two two
people. So they're not in a home alone.

1699
02:01:09,599 --> 02:01:16,080
Um [clears throat] it's to protect the
person going in and the homeowner.

1700
02:01:13,280 --> 02:01:20,080
» We also have our DPW that's had to go in
crawl spaces and we did have a DPW guy

1701
02:01:18,639 --> 02:01:24,159
that got stuck.
>> So with I mean I know you've been

1702
02:01:22,239 --> 02:01:28,880
dealing with someone for a long time. So
I guess I need cuz it doesn't matter the

1703
02:01:27,040 --> 02:01:31,440
manager. It doesn't matter me. It
doesn't we don't get it done. So how do

1704
02:01:30,639 --> 02:01:36,560
we get it done?
>> When Chris was here we talked about

1705
02:01:33,119 --> 02:01:42,719
hiring it out and it never got happened.
And then we ran into some roadblocks

1706
02:01:38,320 --> 02:01:48,960
over the last couple years. So I I agree
with with Mike that we get let's get two

1707
02:01:47,199 --> 02:01:52,080
beds or whatever you need. I don't know
what you need.

1708
02:01:49,599 --> 02:01:53,599
» But you still have the problem forward
>> if they're not going to let you in the

1709
02:01:53,280 --> 02:01:55,920
house.
>> I do not agree with that. [snorts]

1710
02:01:54,560 --> 02:01:58,400
» As far as that goes, shut their water
out. That's how I feel about it. If you

1711
02:01:57,199 --> 02:02:01,119
can't get in to change the meter, then
the water gets shut off. That's just the

1712
02:01:59,599 --> 02:02:03,280
way it works. You can't pay your water.
You can't get it. We

1713
02:02:02,719 --> 02:02:07,679
» But listen,
>> I don't know. Maybe we a lot of people

1714
02:02:06,400 --> 02:02:11,679
talking at one time.
>> That's fine.

1715
02:02:09,040 --> 02:02:16,320
» But when we had that list in front of
us,

1716
02:02:12,800 --> 02:02:21,280
» I sat right here and said,
"Do not tell me those people are not

1717
02:02:19,199 --> 02:02:26,320
home and not where." I could go through
that list and I could pick out half of

1718
02:02:23,920 --> 02:02:32,719
those people minimum
>> that were retirees.

1719
02:02:28,800 --> 02:02:37,520
The other thing was we had businesses on
there, including my Michigan Health.

1720
02:02:36,400 --> 02:02:42,320
» Yep, I saw that.
>> Don't tell me that we they're not

1721
02:02:39,440 --> 02:02:46,159
allowing us in to change those meters.
>> That's correct.

1722
02:02:42,880 --> 02:02:49,040
» So, I say please get us some bids.
>> And I would like to see bids as well.

1723
02:02:47,599 --> 02:02:51,920
I'd like to see this done. I don't think
it's an efficient way to do business,

1724
02:02:50,560 --> 02:02:55,280
but I think there's a bigger issue.
We're not because we just approved how

1725
02:02:53,679 --> 02:02:59,280
much because we don't have the right
licenses with DPW.

1726
02:02:57,440 --> 02:03:03,840
I would like to see them able to either
get, you know, maybe offer them

1727
02:03:01,840 --> 02:03:08,480
overtime. Um, there's something
happening at our DPW. There's probably a

1728
02:03:06,080 --> 02:03:12,560
trillion different reasons, but if we
can't get the right people here, I think

1729
02:03:11,040 --> 02:03:16,880
that's a bigger problem. Are we going to
continue to outsource all of our skilled

1730
02:03:14,400 --> 02:03:20,800
trades? That happens all the time. Or do
we invest in the skilled trades people

1731
02:03:18,560 --> 02:03:24,560
that we have or move those salaries up
so we can get more people? I think there

1732
02:03:23,040 --> 02:03:29,119
there's a bigger problem I'm seeing
here. Um, and I don't know. I do agree

1733
02:03:26,880 --> 02:03:32,320
we need bids. This needs to happen, but
is there any way I don't know the

1734
02:03:31,040 --> 02:03:37,920
contract better than I do that we can at
least offer it to our BPW as overtime?

1735
02:03:35,040 --> 02:03:42,320
Like something because what is it? Five.
How much do we pay an hour for the the

1736
02:03:40,320 --> 02:03:49,040
wastewater treatment license person? Is
it five? How much? A lot. More than our

1737
02:03:46,159 --> 02:03:53,679
guys make. And wouldn't it be nice to
find out how we move them to a place

1738
02:03:51,119 --> 02:03:57,280
where they want both licenses
and to be in charge? It's just I think

1739
02:03:55,520 --> 02:04:01,599
there's a bigger discussion, but I don't
think Do I hear anyone saying we don't

1740
02:03:58,719 --> 02:04:05,520
want to at least see some bids?
>> I think we need to see the bids. It's

1741
02:04:03,920 --> 02:04:07,199
been going on for way too long.
>> Way too long.

1742
02:04:06,400 --> 02:04:09,040
» Okay.
>> Do you have what you need?

1743
02:04:08,159 --> 02:04:13,760
» Yep.
>> All right. The last thing on our agenda

1744
02:04:11,520 --> 02:04:16,880
or for new business is a resolution
authorizing the application for the

1745
02:04:14,880 --> 02:04:19,360
Michigan Fire Equipment Grant. And it
looks like the only person here to talk

1746
02:04:18,159 --> 02:04:24,560
about this is
>> okay. Um, this is the grant that the

1747
02:04:22,320 --> 02:04:32,080
Michigan Department of Treasury has out
for fire departments. It is only open

1748
02:04:28,159 --> 02:04:35,840
for municipalities to be able to enter
into. So, it's in a sense we talked

1749
02:04:34,080 --> 02:04:39,760
about this as a pass. [clears throat]
The grant closes at the end of

1750
02:04:37,440 --> 02:04:43,599
September. So, this is just authorizing
the city to be the applicant on behalf

1751
02:04:42,239 --> 02:04:49,520
of the fire department. and they want to
apply for $50,000 for new fire

1752
02:04:46,159 --> 02:04:53,440
equipment. I'll make that motion.
>> Great. We have uh someone's offer the

1753
02:04:51,119 --> 02:04:57,760
resolution support to the resolution.
>> Thank you for Do does anyone does anyone

1754
02:04:56,239 --> 02:05:03,679
have any questions, comments, or
concerns? I wanted to comment that um I

1755
02:05:00,960 --> 02:05:07,760
spoke with um the fire department
chaplain, Pastor Spang, and I believe he

1756
02:05:06,320 --> 02:05:12,400
may I don't know if he's writing the
grant or if he's he's he's aware of the

1757
02:05:10,560 --> 02:05:16,080
the fire department folks will be doing
all the writing of the grant is my

1758
02:05:14,000 --> 02:05:19,040
understanding. So he won't be involved
in that piece of it.

1759
02:05:17,520 --> 02:05:22,320
» They need any am I correct on that,
Kimberly?

1760
02:05:19,840 --> 02:05:27,920
» Yes, it's already written.
>> Okay. It just Yeah, it says here he has

1761
02:05:25,199 --> 02:05:31,119
the ability to sign for it. That's it.
Great. Thank you for the comment. Any

1762
02:05:29,599 --> 02:05:32,880
other questions?
>> Would you do a roll call for this

1763
02:05:32,320 --> 02:05:34,000
resolution?
>> Karen Dington?

1764
02:05:33,760 --> 02:05:35,119
» Yes.
>> Dave Crawford?

1765
02:05:34,800 --> 02:05:36,239
» Yes.
>> Jamie?

1766
02:05:36,000 --> 02:05:38,960
» Yes.
>> Chris,

1767
02:05:37,920 --> 02:05:40,239
yes. Michael Smith,
>> yes.

1768
02:05:39,199 --> 02:05:45,199
» Linda Warski,
>> yes.

1769
02:05:42,639 --> 02:05:49,119
» Okay. Uh, at this time we'll move on to
uh Kimberly. Um, one thing I want to

1770
02:05:47,599 --> 02:05:52,639
bring up, we talked at the cow meeting,
I think it was two cow meetings ago

1771
02:05:50,800 --> 02:05:57,840
about utility billing and we were
billing 5% on the current balance

1772
02:05:54,480 --> 02:06:00,719
instead of um 5% on the past two
balance.

1773
02:05:58,639 --> 02:06:04,159
» Can there was a second resolution
though? Can we do that one as well?

1774
02:06:03,199 --> 02:06:10,280
» Did I miss something?
>> Yeah, there's another one after that.

1775
02:06:05,679 --> 02:06:10,280
It's the resolution for the allowing

1776
02:06:11,280 --> 02:06:17,520
» my agenda for both of them together.
There was another one that's supposed to

1777
02:06:14,960 --> 02:06:20,800
be allowing Pastor Spring to sign on
behalf of the city administrator.

1778
02:06:20,159 --> 02:06:24,000
» Is that why
>> for the for the

1779
02:06:21,840 --> 02:06:30,079
» fire? It was right in the fire thing.
>> No, there's a second one that is on

1780
02:06:26,560 --> 02:06:32,960
» all one packet. I didn't list it like
>> Okay, so we're good. Do you have what

1781
02:06:31,599 --> 02:06:37,040
you need?
>> Do they need to approve both?

1782
02:06:34,480 --> 02:06:41,520
» They should
off of that. That one is just allowing

1783
02:06:39,599 --> 02:06:45,119
the chaplain to be able to sign on
behalf of the city.

1784
02:06:43,199 --> 02:06:48,560
» Off the resolution that pastor spring
fire department chaplain be authorized

1785
02:06:47,360 --> 02:06:51,599
to sign
>> for this grant

1786
02:06:49,360 --> 02:06:54,800
» that grant support that grant.
>> Thank you council person Smith and

1787
02:06:53,040 --> 02:06:59,520
counc.
>> Good. Thank you for for bringing that

1788
02:06:56,960 --> 02:07:02,480
up. Any further questions or comments?
>> Would you uh roll call for that

1789
02:07:00,960 --> 02:07:05,440
resolution, please?
>> Yes. Oh, it is two separate.

1790
02:07:04,880 --> 02:07:10,639
» Yeah.
>> I'm sorry. What? It is two separate.

1791
02:07:08,000 --> 02:07:12,400
This this one is one
>> and this one is the second one.

1792
02:07:12,079 --> 02:07:16,000
» Yeah.
>> Okay.

1793
02:07:13,440 --> 02:07:17,920
» Okay. Sorry. Go ahead. I got Linda and
Mike DeL.

1794
02:07:17,360 --> 02:07:19,920
» Yes.
>> Jessica Terrace.

1795
02:07:19,040 --> 02:07:22,400
» Jamie Esteine.
>> Yes.

1796
02:07:20,480 --> 02:07:26,560
» Carol Darlington.
>> Yes.

1797
02:07:23,440 --> 02:07:28,480
» Is there a reason why she's not voting?
>> Oh,

1798
02:07:26,960 --> 02:07:31,440
» go. We keep forgetting her.
>> She's not on here.

1799
02:07:29,840 --> 02:07:34,400
» That's a good call.
>> Good call.

1800
02:07:32,960 --> 02:07:37,760
» On that one.
>> She raised her hand so far. Tisha Wyatt.

1801
02:07:37,119 --> 02:07:39,840
» Yes.
>> Thank you. Thanks for pointing that out.

1802
02:07:39,440 --> 02:07:43,679
My
>> It's because it wasn't up here. It goes

1803
02:07:41,280 --> 02:07:47,440
by this year literally.
>> All right. Kimberly, what do you got?

1804
02:07:45,760 --> 02:07:51,760
» Okay. So, we had talked in the cow
meeting about the utility billing for as

1805
02:07:49,840 --> 02:07:55,840
long as we can remember. It doesn't go
along with our ordinance. It should have

1806
02:07:53,280 --> 02:08:00,320
been billing 5% of the past due amount.
It's been billing 5% of the current

1807
02:07:58,320 --> 02:08:04,960
amount. Um, we talked about giving
residents a little bit of time to adjust

1808
02:08:02,159 --> 02:08:12,639
to that. we sent out on the last bill
that this would be changing. So it is my

1809
02:08:08,000 --> 02:08:16,719
goal to October 1st um to adjust the SNA
so it is billing according to our

1810
02:08:14,079 --> 02:08:20,320
ordinance which is 5% on the fastue
amount. Um you you know it's already in

1811
02:08:19,040 --> 02:08:22,480
our ordinance so I don't think we need
to approve it. I just wanted to make you

1812
02:08:21,760 --> 02:08:24,960
aware of that.
>> Okay.

1813
02:08:22,960 --> 02:08:29,520
» Um that's we've talked about the other
stuff so I think that's what we have.

1814
02:08:26,400 --> 02:08:37,679
» Okay. Uh we'll move on to my comments.
Uh first of all uh we did I I had the

1815
02:08:33,199 --> 02:08:42,560
pleasure of doing two um honoring pastor
Brad for his many years. He was as

1816
02:08:40,400 --> 02:08:47,440
actually my youth pastor as well. Uh so
got to offer him a resolution or a a

1817
02:08:45,599 --> 02:08:53,520
proclamation. Thank you for the words.
Uh also got to offer one thanks to uh

1818
02:08:50,079 --> 02:08:57,599
Deb um for Lyn Morgan turned 81. We are
in the week of Lin Morgan week. Um so if

1819
02:08:56,239 --> 02:09:01,760
you see them, please offer them our
congratulations and a huge thanks to our

1820
02:08:59,599 --> 02:09:05,520
clerk. These came in both of them a
little in the the the last minute and

1821
02:09:04,079 --> 02:09:09,920
then even Friday I wasn't sure I was
gonna be in I mean like pulled in hot.

1822
02:09:07,760 --> 02:09:16,320
Um so thank you for making [snorts] that
happen because obviously the Wro and

1823
02:09:12,639 --> 02:09:21,199
Morgan family were quite uh honored. Um
so uh we can get you those copies too if

1824
02:09:18,639 --> 02:09:26,719
anyone would like to read them. Um don't
forget the 911 memorial. Uh it is

1825
02:09:23,760 --> 02:09:30,960
shocking that we are this far away
because it feels some days like it was

1826
02:09:28,400 --> 02:09:35,920
literally yesterday. Uh, please be there
on time. Let's show our first responders

1827
02:09:33,199 --> 02:09:41,040
that we do remember and we do care. Um,
our I would like to at our cow meeting,

1828
02:09:39,360 --> 02:09:44,480
I've brought this up a few times. I'd
like to see it on the agenda if it's

1829
02:09:42,480 --> 02:09:50,480
okay with you all. I'd like to discuss
engagement. Um, I'd like to discuss us

1830
02:09:47,040 --> 02:09:55,520
appointing more council to groups like
um uh the

1831
02:09:53,199 --> 02:10:01,040
council local government. I'd like us to
do be more um deliberate about how we're

1832
02:09:58,880 --> 02:10:04,239
getting information back. Um you know, I
think council local governments, I think

1833
02:10:02,400 --> 02:10:07,840
business professional association, you
know, there's a lot of regular meetings

1834
02:10:05,920 --> 02:10:12,239
that I think a council person would be a
fabulous representative and then bring

1835
02:10:09,920 --> 02:10:16,480
that information back. So, I'd like to
discuss that if if you guys are in favor

1836
02:10:14,400 --> 02:10:20,159
maybe bringing some ideas of where we
could have better ears so that we can

1837
02:10:18,800 --> 02:10:24,560
hear what what's happening in other
places in our community.

1838
02:10:22,639 --> 02:10:30,880
um the time capsule. Thank you, uh
council personski. Uh in a few brief

1839
02:10:28,159 --> 02:10:35,119
conversations, some really good ideas.
So, I think of like I I just emailed the

1840
02:10:33,360 --> 02:10:41,119
superintendent and you guys all know how
great uh Mr. Frisbee can be, they

1841
02:10:37,599 --> 02:10:44,800
donated a yearbook uh or this if you all
could think of one or two um

1842
02:10:43,280 --> 02:10:49,440
organizations,
local groups. I think of, you know,

1843
02:10:46,880 --> 02:10:52,159
Kowanis and Rotary and if they could
write, wouldn't it be great to have a

1844
02:10:50,560 --> 02:10:55,679
handwritten letter? Who knows if we'll
have cursive in 50 years or if they'll

1845
02:10:53,599 --> 02:11:00,320
be teaching it at least. Um, so if you
all could reach out to someone and say

1846
02:10:57,599 --> 02:11:03,920
we'd like a a representative of you in
our community, a picture, something, uh,

1847
02:11:02,639 --> 02:11:09,119
I think we're going to find some really
cool stuff. So, um, that all

1848
02:11:07,840 --> 02:11:12,560
» we're extending it.
>> Yes, that's what she said. Beginning to

1849
02:11:11,199 --> 02:11:14,880
the end of the month,
>> to the end of September.

1850
02:11:13,840 --> 02:11:18,079
» Yes.
>> I gave her pennies today. Kristie gave

1851
02:11:17,119 --> 02:11:21,920
» I gave her a roll of pennies. I'm not
going to exist. We also got

1852
02:11:20,159 --> 02:11:25,760
» I actually was going to bring a roll of
pennies, nickels, dimes, and quarters.

1853
02:11:24,000 --> 02:11:27,280
Maybe I'll still get the other because I
think all of our change is going to go

1854
02:11:27,040 --> 02:11:29,119
away.
>> Oh, wow.

1855
02:11:28,000 --> 02:11:33,760
» Yeah, could be right.
>> Um, we'll make sure I get it, too. We

1856
02:11:31,520 --> 02:11:37,679
have some honey from our farmers market.
All kinds of really cool stuff. But if

1857
02:11:35,440 --> 02:11:41,119
you have some ideas, contact folks,
right? Cuz they're going to open up in

1858
02:11:39,119 --> 02:11:46,960
50 years and represent all of us.
>> Um, quickly, uh, Laura, thank you to to

1859
02:11:44,480 --> 02:11:52,960
Lori uh, and Trisher Donaldson, Chief
Alward. Um, this was a great idea. Uh,

1860
02:11:51,040 --> 02:11:56,800
thank you for coming up with at least, I
don't know, a temporary solution for if

1861
02:11:55,040 --> 02:12:00,719
we were to be both outside and inside
again. So, kudos to the team for at

1862
02:11:58,800 --> 02:12:05,520
least uh this is thoughtful. Thank you
for that. Um,

1863
02:12:03,599 --> 02:12:11,040
I and I want to thank every single
person who did uh express their

1864
02:12:07,840 --> 02:12:16,800
interest. AJ, Ben, uh, Patrick, Aaron,
Nicole, and Doug. Uh, this this means a

1865
02:12:14,800 --> 02:12:21,599
lot to our community. Keep showing up.
keep trying. Um, and then finally, we

1866
02:12:19,760 --> 02:12:26,880
only had uh public comment. Thank you
for showing up for public comment. I

1867
02:12:24,320 --> 02:12:30,560
think that's all I have. Uh, we'll move
on to council member comments. Who wants

1868
02:12:29,199 --> 02:12:38,079
to go first?
>> I'd like to congratulate Tisha. Yeah.

1869
02:12:33,520 --> 02:12:42,840
Filling in our FC. And I too would
appreciate all all the res

1870
02:12:43,040 --> 02:12:50,400
for the possibility of serving on the
council for the next two years. Thank

1871
02:12:47,840 --> 02:12:58,880
you. Good res.
>> Awesome. Council Crawford. Um, welcome

1872
02:12:54,320 --> 02:13:08,320
Tisha the board and I also uh attended
the uh memorial server the graduator

1873
02:13:03,760 --> 02:13:12,400
service for uh Pastor Brad. Um
pretty impressive guy. He's he's been a

1874
02:13:10,960 --> 02:13:15,520
pillar in the community for
>> Yes, he has.

1875
02:13:13,280 --> 02:13:18,079
» How many 32 years? So
>> long time [clears throat]

1876
02:13:16,400 --> 02:13:21,040
» and we're going to miss him. I know he's
still around town, but we're going to

1877
02:13:19,199 --> 02:13:23,199
miss him.
>> Most definitely.

1878
02:13:21,920 --> 02:13:27,199
» Council person Darlington.
>> Um,

1879
02:13:24,880 --> 02:13:32,480
same same dittos. I'll just ditto the
congrats and we'll move on. So, one of

1880
02:13:29,760 --> 02:13:41,920
the things that I would encourage those
people who um are looking at perhaps

1881
02:13:36,639 --> 02:13:47,440
either um a an elected position is that
many of us started out as volunteers on

1882
02:13:45,840 --> 02:13:55,280
committees.
And so that would be a place for people

1883
02:13:51,760 --> 02:14:03,760
to be able to start and build some
knowledge of municipal governments as

1884
02:13:58,320 --> 02:14:07,760
well as um being um
in in learning some things about their

1885
02:14:06,320 --> 02:14:14,239
city more and just getting more
involved. and it's a voluntary position,

1886
02:14:10,079 --> 02:14:20,159
but um I would really encourage you to
fill out that paperwork and get it on

1887
02:14:16,560 --> 02:14:25,520
file and um depending on what's
available and what's open and what we're

1888
02:14:22,639 --> 02:14:29,280
looking for at different times, then we
we look at that, okay? We go to that.

1889
02:14:27,760 --> 02:14:34,880
That's a resource to take into
consideration. So, that would be my

1890
02:14:32,320 --> 02:14:38,239
thought. And um
parks, thank you for the work. Thank you

1891
02:14:36,800 --> 02:14:45,199
for the recommendations that you're
bringing forth. We've not had that and I

1892
02:14:41,360 --> 02:14:51,199
would um say that we're a little aiss
perhaps in letting you um give us that

1893
02:14:48,560 --> 02:14:55,920
presentation and that depth before we
start to make those decisions. So, um

1894
02:14:54,000 --> 02:15:00,800
we'll try to do better and we'll we'll
we'll listen hard. So, thank you.

1895
02:14:58,320 --> 02:15:06,960
» Thank you, Counc.
>> Um I just want to say um [snorts]

1896
02:15:03,760 --> 02:15:10,960
Tisha, of course, welcome. Um, it was a
hard decision for me. I didn't make the

1897
02:15:08,719 --> 02:15:17,440
decision today. I I I'm fine with the
decision that was made, but I think

1898
02:15:13,199 --> 02:15:23,360
that, um, every one of you had great
things to say and have a good background

1899
02:15:20,400 --> 02:15:28,159
to be able to come to this table. I know
Carol, I I don't agree with her on the

1900
02:15:25,360 --> 02:15:32,960
fact that you have to have some prior
anything. I would never

1901
02:15:30,400 --> 02:15:36,960
» No, no, no. I'm I well it would be
easier get to know the council or get to

1902
02:15:35,280 --> 02:15:41,360
know the whatever better. I just don't
agree with that part of it. It's no big

1903
02:15:38,719 --> 02:15:47,679
deal. But um because I came here with no
experience and you as far as reading

1904
02:15:45,280 --> 02:15:52,320
trying to figure out whatever I just
think that it's great that we have

1905
02:15:50,320 --> 02:15:57,760
younger people in our community getting
involved. Nothing against anybody who is

1906
02:15:55,199 --> 02:16:02,079
even me. I'm in my 50s now. So, but I
think it's important because our

1907
02:15:59,360 --> 02:16:05,599
community has a lot of younger families
in it now and I think it's important to

1908
02:16:04,320 --> 02:16:11,199
see some changes for the younger
families as well. So, um that's it.

1909
02:16:09,040 --> 02:16:14,960
» Thank you,
>> Council President. [clears throat]

1910
02:16:13,280 --> 02:16:18,639
» I just want to thank everybody. I
appreciate it and everybody else that

1911
02:16:16,480 --> 02:16:22,800
put the letters in. I mean, it just
shows how much we all care about this

1912
02:16:21,360 --> 02:16:27,360
city
>> and want to move forward. So, thank you.

1913
02:16:25,360 --> 02:16:32,559
» Thank you, C. That's fine.
>> Welcome, Tisha. And I'm all set. Thank

1914
02:16:30,079 --> 02:16:36,319
you, Councilwoman Warski.
>> Okay. Just want to let everybody know.

1915
02:16:34,559 --> 02:16:41,439
Well, just just wanted to let everybody
know that Nancy sick so we don't send

1916
02:16:39,439 --> 02:16:46,639
the police to her house to see where to
find out where she is. She is she's got

1917
02:16:44,719 --> 02:16:49,920
to give it to everybody. So,
>> she told me to let you know that.

1918
02:16:48,160 --> 02:16:55,679
» Thank you. That was really important.
Um, and

1919
02:16:52,719 --> 02:17:00,000
uh, usually before we have the hazardous
waste pickup, we have a safety committee

1920
02:16:57,760 --> 02:17:02,479
meeting. Um, I was just wondering if
we're still going to plan on doing that.

1921
02:17:02,000 --> 02:17:05,585
Okay.
>> Okay.

1922
02:17:03,040 --> 02:17:11,439
» And the last thing I have is
[clears throat] we'll need to have

1923
02:17:07,280 --> 02:17:17,359
somebody else appointed to um, approve
the payroll because John and I were

1924
02:17:14,240 --> 02:17:21,920
doing that and now John is gone. So, our
payroll has been held up because we

1925
02:17:19,599 --> 02:17:26,960
don't have a second person appointed.
Um, what we did before is you just asked

1926
02:17:24,399 --> 02:17:32,479
for volunteers, mayor, and John and I
raised our hands because it's not a paid

1927
02:17:29,040 --> 02:17:38,000
position. It's strictly volunteer and
it's really for people who are around

1928
02:17:35,280 --> 02:17:42,639
during the day and can do this at a
couple minutes notice. So,

1929
02:17:40,719 --> 02:17:46,479
» that's kind of what we're looking for.
So

1930
02:17:42,960 --> 02:17:50,399
» since it is a volunteer position with no
um we that's Linda and I tal council and

1931
02:17:49,200 --> 02:17:55,120
I talked about this before I have a
policy which she's stating from um but

1932
02:17:53,599 --> 02:17:57,120
if there's another volunteer who would
like to help

1933
02:17:55,599 --> 02:18:00,719
» was there anything in the policy about
mayor prom

1934
02:17:58,160 --> 02:18:05,920
» I thought there was I don't see it so
the meeting policy does it usually take

1935
02:18:03,760 --> 02:18:09,359
» it depends
>> you're talking about to go over the um

1936
02:18:07,519 --> 02:18:13,120
» time sheets
>> just council time sheets

1937
02:18:10,880 --> 02:18:15,599
» yeah But do you have to do it?
>> That's usually during one day when

1938
02:18:14,639 --> 02:18:18,960
they're open.
>> You have to do it during the day. It's

1939
02:18:17,200 --> 02:18:23,519
usually in the morning.
>> It's usually It takes It doesn't take

1940
02:18:21,760 --> 02:18:27,760
that long, but we just want to make sure
that everybody's getting, you know, paid

1941
02:18:26,080 --> 02:18:31,920
for the meetings that they attended.
That's why we have two people do it

1942
02:18:29,679 --> 02:18:37,040
because we have found in the past that
one person sometimes misses something

1943
02:18:34,160 --> 02:18:43,359
and so a second person is always good to
have a second person look it over. So,

1944
02:18:39,280 --> 02:18:46,479
» I think it makes it all about board. So,
>> I'll volunteer.

1945
02:18:44,399 --> 02:18:49,760
» Deb, you're awesome. You guys all good
with that?

1946
02:18:47,679 --> 02:18:54,800
» Well, it's fine. I mean, yeah, I was
say, yeah, de board volunteers for

1947
02:18:54,080 --> 02:18:58,080
everything.
>> Unless someone else would like to

1948
02:18:55,840 --> 02:19:01,599
volunteer and I'm not opposed to dev.
It's just that volunteers for

1949
02:18:59,840 --> 02:19:03,359
everything.
>> Thank you.

1950
02:19:02,240 --> 02:19:06,719
» Get myself into
>> uh if you would like us to review again

1951
02:19:05,200 --> 02:19:08,639
in a month or two, if either of
>> There's no sheets that need reviewed

1952
02:19:08,080 --> 02:19:12,880
right now.
>> Yeah. All right. You're getting busy

1953
02:19:10,719 --> 02:19:15,040
girls here first thing in the morning.
>> Thank you, Council President Warski. Is

1954
02:19:14,240 --> 02:19:16,160
there anything else you'd like to
address?

1955
02:19:15,280 --> 02:19:18,880
» No, that's it. I'm done.
>> Council person Smith.

1956
02:19:17,120 --> 02:19:24,559
» Um, I wanted to thank everybody who
expressed an interest in appointment to

1957
02:19:21,439 --> 02:19:30,240
city council and congratulations to
Tisha. Um, appreciate the the

1958
02:19:27,040 --> 02:19:36,080
overwhelming um
letters of interest. We had a lot and um

1959
02:19:33,439 --> 02:19:39,439
that's very that's it's great that we
have that much interest because there

1960
02:19:37,519 --> 02:19:41,599
has been times in the past when
>> couldn't find someone sitting in his

1961
02:19:40,639 --> 02:19:44,479
chairs.
>> So

1962
02:19:42,960 --> 02:19:49,280
» I'm all set.
>> All right, we'll move on to other Chief

1963
02:19:47,359 --> 02:19:53,200
Binger. Uh someone came in with dog hair
in his pants.

1964
02:19:51,280 --> 02:19:56,960
» I thought I got most of the lint roll.
>> She sounds jealous.

1965
02:19:54,479 --> 02:19:59,280
» I am way jealous. I thought we were
promised a coach [cough]

1966
02:19:58,399 --> 02:20:04,319
in the meeting, but
>> so I did get to see coach today. Um, he

1967
02:20:02,080 --> 02:20:08,560
is scheduled, he and officer Doyle are
scheduled to complete training about mid

1968
02:20:06,240 --> 02:20:14,479
next week. So, um, they will be around
for homecoming, which is, I think, is a

1969
02:20:11,520 --> 02:20:18,319
perfect timing. So, um, yeah, they're
he's

1970
02:20:16,560 --> 02:20:21,680
pretty well tempered out, so I think I
think you guys will love to see him. Um,

1971
02:20:19,920 --> 02:20:24,960
I will try to have officer Doyle coach
here u for maybe one of the next council

1972
02:20:24,160 --> 02:20:29,960
meetings or something like that.
whatever works on the schedule.

1973
02:20:26,720 --> 02:20:29,960
» Thank you.

1974
02:20:30,399 --> 02:20:34,000
» Thank you for the report, too. Those are
always really interesting to read.

1975
02:20:33,520 --> 02:20:37,200
» Thank you.
>> Any questions for our chief? Chris,

1976
02:20:36,399 --> 02:20:41,840
anything from you?
>> Nothing.

1977
02:20:39,840 --> 02:20:45,280
» Um, I plan on having budget amendments
for you at our next meeting so that way

1978
02:20:43,439 --> 02:20:49,840
we can get caught up and see where we're
sitting with that. And I do have our

1979
02:20:46,960 --> 02:20:55,200
audit schedule for October, so we will
be busy getting ready for that as well.

1980
02:20:51,760 --> 02:20:59,520
» Great. Thank you. your last I don't have
a lot because we have early voting again

1981
02:20:56,800 --> 02:21:05,040
in um October starting I believe is the
24th or 25th. So we'll have nine days um

1982
02:21:03,280 --> 02:21:09,840
that week which we normally hold it
here. We do have a parks and a planning

1983
02:21:06,800 --> 02:21:13,520
commission scheduled. So I don't know if
there's a possibility of moving that or

1984
02:21:12,160 --> 02:21:16,640
otherwise we have to share everything
down clear it out. You guys can have

1985
02:21:15,359 --> 02:21:20,640
your meeting and then the next morning
get here early to set it back up. So

1986
02:21:18,800 --> 02:21:25,200
» how much of the room do you use? All of
it. We use just this council chamber. We

1987
02:21:23,600 --> 02:21:27,680
don't use out there.
>> We can go back there.

1988
02:21:26,319 --> 02:21:30,399
» Okay. I just wanted to make sure.
>> Okay. Thank you.

1989
02:21:28,880 --> 02:21:33,482
» With that, aren't you Chris? We could be
back there for our planning.

1990
02:21:31,920 --> 02:21:35,502
» Anything
[laughter]

1991
02:21:35,520 --> 02:21:37,760
» with that?
>> That was kind.

1992
02:21:37,359 --> 02:21:42,640
» Yes.
>> At 7:21.

1993
02:21:40,720 --> 02:21:46,399
» I'll make it support.
>> Thank you both.

1994
02:21:45,040 --> 02:21:52,720
All in favor, please vote by saying
>> I oppos.

1995
02:21:50,560 --> 02:21:55,680
I know you don't [laughter]
>> whatever you say.