1 00:00:16,050 --> 00:00:39,530 Board of Finance meeting come to order September 16th, 2026 at 4 p.m.. First item on the agenda is public comment. I understand we do not have any public comments. Minutes of meeting of July 15th. Additions. Corrections. 2 00:00:39,530 --> 00:00:46,670 As presented and Action items. Three a. 3 00:00:46,670 --> 00:00:51,550 One p. Item C. 4 00:00:51,550 --> 00:00:54,910 We're going to do a first. 5 00:00:54,910 --> 00:00:58,710 Review. Okay. Yep. 6 00:00:58,710 --> 00:00:59,510 Okay. 7 00:00:59,510 --> 00:01:41,080 All right. So for the prelim year end results for fiscal year 2026, um we show an estimated 2.7 million being added to the unassigned fund balance. This would move it from 40.3 million to 43.0 million, or 20.5%, to 21.6%. So the major kind of factors that contributed to the positive year end results. The first is that revenue outperformed budget by about 1.4 million. Um, really focus in auto supplemental for 538,000. 8 00:01:41,080 --> 00:03:30,100 Uh, building permit for S3: 9 00:03:30,100 --> 00:04:33,190 Um some areas in the expenditure side of things that saw material, I mean, that's a significant savings was materials for 185,000 supplies for 86,000. Um. We saw a big savings and contractual services that's really, um, generated from if you guys remember, we have the, the bus contract maintenance in fleet. Um, we used to pay for the, all the maintenance costs on the busses. The board of education, um, I believe has a mechanic over there handling all the majority of the repairs. So that's a $275,000 line item that we didn't really expend in fiscal year 2027. We took the first step to bring that down to a comfortable amount. So it reduced, I think, from 275 to 175 or around that area. We dropped it $100,000. So that variance will be significantly smaller in 2027. 10 00:04:33,190 --> 00:05:06,730 Um, so maintenance costs we saw savings of 132,000 and the claims and casualty reimbursement for 76,000. So that's sort of broad strokes of where we're at for expenditures and revenues for the year. 11 00:05:06,730 --> 00:05:07,610 Is there anything more specific that you want me to go into in regards to the savings or the outperformance of the revenue line items before we kind of tackle the chart? S1: 12 00:05:07,610 --> 00:05:39,100 I had just a question or two. Is there anything that we can take from this as far as looking at the budget for for next year? Um, for instance, the 775 transfer, if we're running a surplus, is that should that be part of the budget. I don't really need an answer. Um, but I'm just wondering from your standpoint, is there, is there any carryovers that we should be looking at either to. 13 00:05:39,100 --> 00:07:04,800 Yeah. And Jonathan and I are going to do a deeper dive in. Um, you know, the, the savings that was left on the tables by the departments to pull that into the, you know, the planning and the budget stage, um, the 70, 77, 75. I, you know, I think that that's a bigger discussion. Um, but the two areas where we did see significant, um, you know, impacts to fund balance, which were the auto supplemental and the, um, uh, contractual, we, we did, you know, kind of check those and bring those back down. So I think that will be more in line in fiscal year 27 in the future. But we'll always look to see what the trends are. You know, in the highway, we saved a lot of a lot of money in the material line item in the highway department. That was really because the focus was in fiscal year 26, so hard, was to spend the Arpa money down, and they got a lot of money in the Arpa account that unfortunately, you know, there was savings in the operations because they prioritized the Arpa. Um, so I, you know, I think Jonathan would agree. We always look at, you know, savings that we have year over year to see a trend. And we really do try to tighten up where we can. Um, and we'll continue to do that obviously in 28. 14 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,400 Thank you. 15 00:07:07,400 --> 00:07:21,720 Susan, can you just remind me? Um, Kerry, it says the fiscal 2026 continue appropriation of $446,000 in capital outlay of, um. 16 00:07:21,720 --> 00:08:02,810 952 can you just remind me how those interplay with our budget? S3: 17 00:08:02,810 --> 00:08:04,930 Thank you. 18 00:08:04,930 --> 00:08:06,570 Jim. 19 00:08:06,570 --> 00:08:51,510 This is the 775. I mean, it's gone up substantially. And I the problem is the managers and you folks try really hard not to use it. And I appreciate that. But what it means is we tax people right. Based on that. And I guess I'm just trying to think of is there a way to not to put that into some kind of a, an account where that it's not showing, it's not a yearly up and down kind of thing. I, I'm not I haven't really thought this completely through. It just seems like we used to only put like 500 in there and it just and, and yet it doesn't seem to get used a whole lot, which is great. 20 00:08:51,510 --> 00:09:08,670 So but actually the 775 is the larger the amount, the less you're taxing people. Yeah, yeah. So, you know, to keep it at 775 you're generating more taxes from on, um, you know, not tax revenue. 21 00:09:08,670 --> 00:09:15,310 So it may actually be a good thing to, you're actually tapping into the unassigned fund balance. It's not really causing you. Okay. 22 00:09:15,310 --> 00:09:18,310 Right. It's sort of a weird, a weird. 23 00:09:18,310 --> 00:09:20,350 Yeah, I know, I understand. 24 00:09:20,350 --> 00:09:25,550 You keep expenditures up it, it fills in the gap. Um, yeah. 25 00:09:25,550 --> 00:09:26,390 All right. 26 00:09:26,390 --> 00:09:32,800 But but in reality, it's just a placeholder because we're not using it. 27 00:09:32,800 --> 00:09:34,720 It's just to balance the budget. 28 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:35,200 But. 29 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:36,320 Not reduce expenditure. 30 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:41,840 It's a balance the budget at the beginning of the budget season. But at the end of the budget season, we're just pulling it right back out. 31 00:09:41,840 --> 00:09:43,160 Yeah. 32 00:09:43,160 --> 00:09:46,720 So it's really just a placeholder. 33 00:09:46,720 --> 00:09:50,120 Because you have to present a balanced budget. Yeah. 34 00:09:50,120 --> 00:12:10,630 Well, you know, just to go a little bit more detail into what Kerry said, we will spend time during budget season looking at the past three, five years of trend for, let's say, auto supplemental. Do the same thing for town clerk conveyance fees. When we have each of those discussions about those particular things, we also don't simply look at the trend. We say like, well, is there any other tweaks? Did the state do anything to, you know, let's let's assume they increase the conveyance fee, right? Then we would take that into account. So we do that throughout. We, you know, we try to we, we do err on the side of caution. We want we don't want to be here June 30th, biting our nails, you know, checking with the tax collector, how much money is coming in today. You know, we want to balance the budget. We don't we don't want to operate like that. Um, I think there will, um, you know, and we do the same thing on the expenditure side. We look at several years of expenditures. We'll go through what were the issues. Um, so we do that, you know, we could do our best, you know, maybe there'd be a year where we have to use this portion of the 775 or even more than that. Um, but we'll do our best. We'll try to make whatever adjustments we can. Um, and then the other thought is, you know, over time, if those, the unassigned fund balance grows to a point where it's, you know, I think it's really big, then I wouldn't hesitate to say, hey, let's put in the budget a, another usage to offset a significant capital expense that comes up every 20 years, 25 years or to put it in pension. So, um, if you look at, you know, when this last budget season, we talked about the unassigned fund balance and carry projected it out based on assumptions with, you know, expenditures. And we looked at how that number works over the next few years and how that with respect to the 16% target rate, and we do have it in the out years, it starts to go down below 16%. This will allow us to continue and be above for probably 1 or 2 more years. When you factor in the spending increases. So it's something we'll revisit again as a group. Um, when the budget gets proposed. 35 00:12:10,630 --> 00:12:45,370 I know I've requested this in the past, and I think what you say is really important because I think we should have a discussion about the undesignated fund balance, where it's at, where it needs to stay at, what could potentially defer costs in other areas. Because as we all know, I'm sure the upcoming budget season is going to be challenging, so if there is a way to make it a little less difficult on the taxpayer, I would certainly like to have that discussion. Not with any guarantee that we're going to use it, but I think we it should become part of our practice to discuss it as we enter into the budget season. 36 00:12:45,370 --> 00:12:51,210 Any comments? 37 00:12:51,210 --> 00:16:39,780 All right. So just to kind of briefly touch on the chart, which is on the second page, uh, the top section of the chart on page two illustrates the operating results for fiscal year for the fiscal year end. You will see that there is a -$1.96 million, or expenditures kind of exceed revenue by that amount. Um, that is because there was a $3 million additional contribution to the pension that we budgeted on the expenditure side, and we budgeted it on the revenue side as a use of fund balance. Um, obviously we don't record that revenue coming in. Um, so we record the expenditures. We don't record the revenue because any, um, net operating results that end in expected sorry, expenditures exceeding revenue will automatically draw from fund balance. So that's what happened. We recorded the $3 million of expenditures on the town operations side, but we did not record the $3 million as revenue to offset that. So that means that we really had positive, positive results of the $1.4 million. Um, so if you kind of move down to the second chart, you'll see that first line, the $1.9 million loss gets carried down. Um, and then there are a few line items that I was just going to take a minute to kind of explain because they're, they're a little bit, um, they can be confusing. So, uh, the second in that chart is the BOE ended the year with a surplus of $2.1 million. So they had savings in their budget of $2.1 million. So that hasn't been expended yet. So that's therefore not really included in the $1.9 million operating results that we show on the line above. Um, so I need to reserve that amount out of fund balance, out of unassigned fund balance, because we will be transferring it from the general fund over to that, their new 2% Unexpended fund. Um, so that's what that second line item is. So it takes that $2.1 million out of the unassigned fund balance and kind of puts it on hold. Um, the next few three items are changes in assignments for encumbrance, capital outlay and prepaid. So these just need to be taken out of the unassigned fund balance because, um, we're increasing the fiscal year 2027 budget, um, to make sure that we account for those three things. Uh, so the, the next two are, um, the release of the $3 million from the additional pension contribution. So, you know, in fiscal year 2026, we reserved that $3 million because we knew we were going to be using it in the fiscal year 2026 budget, that $3 million expenditure is included in the 1.9 million. So to not double account for it, I have to release it out of its assignment. The $3 million and the last is the release of the $4.3 million. That's been kind of on hold and out of the unassigned fund balance, because that was the Board of Education's 2% assignment. So we knew that they were going to spend it. We just didn't know when they were going to spend it. Um, so that is actually included in the $199 million expenditures on the top section. So I had to release that to not double account for it. So all that accounting, all that fun stuff, it leads us to a $42.99 million fund balance or a 21. 38 00:16:39,780 --> 00:17:13,980 6%, S3: 39 00:17:13,980 --> 00:17:36,840 Any questions on the chart? S4: 40 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:39,520 So is it the 1.9? Yeah. 41 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:50,240 Can you not from from not necessarily from this chart in my write up before. So the Board of Education has an operating surplus of the $2.1 million. 42 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:50,880 Right. 43 00:17:50,880 --> 00:18:01,480 And then the town operations because we have so many transfers pending and everything like that. But at the end of the day, right now, as it stands, it's $839,000. 44 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:14,760 Okay. So so we're at about a total of about a $3 million surplus between the board of Ed and the town for operations. For operations. 45 00:18:14,760 --> 00:18:21,970 Yes. I would say we're about $3 million. We have savings and debt service of about $400,000. 46 00:18:21,970 --> 00:18:28,610 Okay. So then it's about 3.3, 3.4. Okay. Thank you. 47 00:18:28,610 --> 00:18:29,610 Yep. 48 00:18:29,610 --> 00:18:30,490 Can I ask a quick question? 49 00:18:30,490 --> 00:18:37,890 Does the $4.3 million number for the board of Ed that includes the East Barrie allocation, the money that doesn't really get touched at all. Yeah. 50 00:18:37,890 --> 00:18:39,970 Okay. We've never separated out. 51 00:18:39,970 --> 00:18:51,930 I understand. And then I know they had a meeting in August where they allocated a lot of that money from the 2.1, but that hasn't caught up to the accounting yet. Or is that I don't I'm not sure how that works. 52 00:18:51,930 --> 00:19:00,490 Right. So they all we need to worry about with the $2.1 million is taking out of the general fund and transferring it over. 53 00:19:00,490 --> 00:19:00,930 So they can. 54 00:19:00,930 --> 00:19:10,610 To the 2% fund, which we just did. We had to wait on the board minutes to approve their allocation and how they they do. That is really a separate, separate thing. 55 00:19:10,610 --> 00:19:14,090 Thank you. 56 00:19:14,090 --> 00:19:24,350 Further questions? No, I guess not. 57 00:19:24,350 --> 00:19:45,590 Three B. Does anybody have any questions on any of the transfers under B? 58 00:19:45,590 --> 00:19:50,990 It doesn't sound like it. And we'll go to see action items. 59 00:19:50,990 --> 00:20:02,470 Um be it resolved that the Board of Finance approve of transfer of $146,000 from police wages others to police capital outlay, machinery and equipment. 60 00:20:02,470 --> 00:20:05,870 Second. 61 00:20:05,870 --> 00:20:07,310 Discussion. 62 00:20:07,310 --> 00:20:14,950 What is. What is. Can you give a brief description of what the axon. I have no idea what that is. 63 00:20:14,950 --> 00:21:07,880 Yeah. So this is the body camera system that officers where we are with another company right now. And we save, um, we save the data on our own servers, but that's not going to be allowed anymore. It's got to go in the cloud. So we've, uh, this is being purchased under the state contract. And so we're going with a different vendor. So we need to, uh, this is going to be year one of a multi-year deal. And the thought is to do it. Um, we'd like to get this wrapped up. Um, we'd like to get this locked in sooner than later so that we can plan well in advance so that, you know, it's one day the cameras are all off from another vendor, and the next day the cameras are on and everything's working and tested well in advance. So that's, that's the, the thought here. Um, and so this is going to facilitate that. 64 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:14,360 Can I, John, what is it costing us. This is 146 over what we now spend. Is that correct. 65 00:21:14,360 --> 00:21:22,580 No this is just the new 146 to replace the existing cost. I will get you that number. So this is not completely over and above. 66 00:21:22,580 --> 00:21:28,380 This is okay. This is just a replacement. Okay. 67 00:21:28,380 --> 00:21:29,020 And what are we spending now? S6: 68 00:21:29,020 --> 00:21:29,820 You. Okay. 69 00:21:29,820 --> 00:21:34,460 Yeah. I don't have it now, but I'll get back. That's fine. 70 00:21:34,460 --> 00:21:35,300 Yeah. Thank you. 71 00:21:35,300 --> 00:21:40,860 And so. And Jonathan, from what the paper said, this is a five year contract. 72 00:21:40,860 --> 00:21:41,580 Yes. 73 00:21:41,580 --> 00:21:52,220 Okay. And so I'm assuming that with the old product you would have had to move to the cloud also. Yes, yes. So there would be an additional expense. 74 00:21:52,220 --> 00:22:06,180 Yeah. And we're going to try to auction off the the hardware from the old product because there might be someone out there who wants it. So we can get a couple bucks for it. We'll we'll do that. Okay. 75 00:22:06,180 --> 00:22:14,550 Further questions. All those in favor, say aye. Opposed? Nay. Motion carries. 76 00:22:14,550 --> 00:22:25,670 Be it resolved that the Board of Finance approve a transfer of $30,000 from CIP Norfolk School Roof Design project to CIP roof design project. 77 00:22:25,670 --> 00:22:30,030 Second discussion. 78 00:22:30,030 --> 00:22:34,710 Can you just remind us of the timing of these projects? Because I should remember, but I don't. 79 00:22:34,710 --> 00:22:46,270 The high school is scheduled. Um, the tentative schedule is high school to be done at the conclusion of this school year, and then Norfolk would be the following year. 80 00:22:46,270 --> 00:22:47,230 Thank you. 81 00:22:47,230 --> 00:22:52,710 And there's additional $8,700 to be transferred. The reason for that is. 82 00:22:52,710 --> 00:23:14,770 Well, we budgeted 75,000 for each project. Right? The high school came in bigger. Norfolk came in less, presumably because of the size of the roofs. Right. And so after that, then there'll be the money available. And if there's a change order, we could use it. I don't anticipate there's going to be one, but otherwise I just get canceled out and go back into the fund. 83 00:23:14,770 --> 00:23:15,490 Okay. 84 00:23:15,490 --> 00:23:19,010 The overall fund. 85 00:23:19,010 --> 00:23:27,490 Other discussion. All those in favor, say aye. Opposed? Nay. Motion carries. Multi-department. 86 00:23:27,490 --> 00:23:41,290 Be it resolved that the Board of Finance approves the June 30th, 2026 intra department inter-department transfers over $5,000 in the amount of $784,486. 87 00:23:41,290 --> 00:23:44,810 Second discussion. 88 00:23:44,810 --> 00:23:55,650 Just a question on if I could. On page two of three, there was, um. 89 00:23:55,650 --> 00:24:08,370 $100,000 for fire truck repairs, it looks like. Yeah. I mean, we've had a big discussion about fire trucks and this wasn't budgeted. I mean, had whatever, you know. 90 00:24:08,370 --> 00:24:30,140 Well, there was three major, major repairs that kind of blew up the budget last year. There was the water pump and radiator. We had to spend $35,000 for a leaf spring and there was a waterway repair. So we just had three really large budget, I mean, large repairs. That just blew it up. 91 00:24:30,140 --> 00:25:09,220 The other one is there's a I know it's common. There's an accrual of time that people earn. And again, this comes I'm just thinking here, should we have like a category. I mean, like the board of Ed has a, a line for teachers and administrators who tell them early they're going to leave. That's just so they can hire for less money. Yeah, I'm just we've been hit with some of these accruals a few times, I get it. I understand it. I, I'm fine with it. Should we have a line to sort of just have that rolls over year to year on that. 92 00:25:09,220 --> 00:26:06,120 So I mean, I feel like what we do now is we are able to fund with saving, you know, savings in the budget that was already, you know, that we've experienced within the fiscal year. If we had a line item, I think it would, there would be a positive because you would have a better picture of actual expenditures for the year and in operation budgets, because an accrual payout kind of inflates historical costs, right? But there's going to be plenty of years where you don't use that either. And it's going to be an expenditure line that's not paid. Because as the time goes on, we've tightened so much of the accrual payouts where the the big the big boys are no longer, you know, they're dwindling down right as they retire and, and stuff. So the, the accrual payments aren't going to be as significant as we progress in the years to come. 93 00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:15,530 So change. So changes in contracts and and okay. Yeah, we're we're slowly but surely moving away from having to deal with that. 94 00:26:15,530 --> 00:26:23,490 The town's done really great things in, in really kind of pulling back that liability because it can be really tough. 95 00:26:23,490 --> 00:26:24,410 Yes. Thank you. 96 00:26:24,410 --> 00:26:26,890 Mhm. 97 00:26:26,890 --> 00:26:36,530 Further discussion. All those in favor, say aye. Opposed? Nay. Motion carries. Item D. 98 00:26:36,530 --> 00:26:45,690 Be it resolved that the Board of Finance approve and recommend to the Town Council a transfer of $40,263 99 00:26:45,690 --> 00:26:52,050 from police capital outlay office equipment to information tech, capital outlay, office equipment. 100 00:26:52,050 --> 00:26:56,130 Second discussion. 101 00:26:56,130 --> 00:28:12,600 So the um. Yep. Um, this is a transfer from police to information technology. Uh, copper wire based infrastructures will won't be supported. Um, which are our current existing frontier phone lines will not be supported in a couple of years. Um, they all need to be replaced with internet based fiber optic fiber optic cable phone lines. So that means our fire panels need to be repaired. In some cases, we can just install like an adapter to make them, um, combat compatible, compatible to the fiber optic. But in some cases, we need a whole new fire panel. Um, that's about three, $3,600 per panel. Um, there is a buffer in there of about $10,000. It's been the experience of facilities in it that they go in. These panels are fairly old. They go in, they find something that they have to replace that they didn't plan for. So this is is an unexpected cost. Um, but it will be a future cost if we don't fund it today. So that's why it's before you. 102 00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:13,880 All those in favor say aye. 103 00:28:13,880 --> 00:28:14,720 Aye. 104 00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:18,480 Opposed? Nay. Motion carries. 105 00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:29,480 D2 be it resolved that the Board of Finance approve and recommend to the Town Council a transfer as follows. 106 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:34,440 $55,685 S2: 107 00:28:34,440 --> 00:28:39,360 $18,465 S2: 108 00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:46,480 from leisure, for a total of $90,000 to senior capital outlay vehicles. 109 00:28:46,480 --> 00:28:49,640 Second discussion. 110 00:28:49,640 --> 00:29:48,130 Okay, so this is a $90,000, um, transfer to fund a replacement for a 2014MV1. Um, the town is fortunate enough where we received a um, a resident donated a MVMV1 for us that we are currently. We currently use for all our repair parts, spares and stuff like that. Well, we have kind of exhausted that avenue. They don't make m v ones anymore. Um, this has been in the repair shop for quite a while. It will need to get replaced. It, you know, if the transfer isn't supported tonight, we will have to you know, we will be proposing it probably in the fiscal year 2028 budget. So with the savings and in senior and youth and leisure, we thought we would um, try to, to present the capital, the capital purchase tonight, um and save that money in the fiscal year 2028 budget for something else. 111 00:29:48,130 --> 00:29:49,650 Just one question. 112 00:29:49,650 --> 00:29:51,890 Jim. 113 00:29:51,890 --> 00:29:56,410 So the one purchasing now is this Toyota. 114 00:29:56,410 --> 00:29:57,050 They haven't. 115 00:29:57,050 --> 00:29:57,290 Made. 116 00:29:57,290 --> 00:30:08,590 A decision on what I think they're still researching so that there's two estimates before you. One's like 77 ones, $84,000. Yeah. We just haven't made that decision. Um, so. 117 00:30:08,590 --> 00:30:12,790 So this is not two vehicles for two different years. This is just the choice between these two vehicles. 118 00:30:12,790 --> 00:30:18,790 Yeah. And there's pros and cons that the, you know, they want to test out each vehicle before they determine that. 119 00:30:18,790 --> 00:30:21,630 Thank you. 120 00:30:21,630 --> 00:30:25,150 For the discussion. All those in favor say aye. 121 00:30:25,150 --> 00:30:25,750 Aye. 122 00:30:25,750 --> 00:30:31,310 Opposed nay carries and police pension. 123 00:30:31,310 --> 00:30:55,990 Be it resolved that the Board of Finance approve and recommends to the Town Council the attached transfer request totaling $400,000 from departments, police, fiscal services and insurance to the police pension account for an additional contribution to the town's pension plan to cover the unfunded liability associated with the fiscal year 2026 through 2029. GPOA contract. 124 00:30:55,990 --> 00:30:58,950 Second discussion. 125 00:30:58,950 --> 00:32:40,420 Well, as you know, There are two groups historically within the police department in terms of retirement. There's a 2000 there's a group that was hired post 2012 and a group that was hired before 2012 as part of the negotiations for the new contract, which both parties have approved. We're finalizing the language to be signed in any day now. Um, but the but the agreement, the new agreement is, is, for all intents and purposes, approved. Um, there is a modest defined benefit pension enhancement to that group. Um that is the post 2012 group and that's now the majority of the officers. So the benefit is that in the multiplier calculations it's going from a 2% to a 2.2%. Um and there's still no, no cost of living adjustments. Um so that's why I use the word modest. Um, this was done and I won't get too deep into the details because a lot of it's our strategy as a town in negotiating. And the union has their strategy is done after doing research. Um, and, uh, and obviously as part of that discussion about what each party wants. So I think it's a modest enhancement. Again, no cost of living adjustment this group has now, they will not get a cost of living adjustment. 126 00:32:40,420 --> 00:34:08,650 Um, but in terms of paying for it, um, because this is a done deal, there's kind of an instantaneous, if you will, liability of unfunded liability, pension liability to the town that kicks in and that amount is 339,000 S6: 127 00:34:08,650 --> 00:34:10,370 Questions? Jim. 128 00:34:10,370 --> 00:34:22,330 If I if you can. The pension plans we have are not what's called qualified. We pay Social Security on top of what the employees pay. I believe. 129 00:34:22,330 --> 00:34:24,330 They all participate in Social. 130 00:34:24,330 --> 00:34:32,650 Security. Well, you can have police pensions, I. Right. That's. And the other question do they take health care or anything with them when they leave. 131 00:34:32,650 --> 00:34:44,050 Um there are options for health care depending on how long you stay and when you retired, you know, based on what, which, which version you're in. Oh. 132 00:34:44,050 --> 00:34:48,410 Okay. Thank you. 133 00:34:48,410 --> 00:34:51,530 Further questions? Derek. 134 00:34:51,530 --> 00:35:01,780 I just was, are there other unions where we might have end up with past liabilities. 135 00:35:01,780 --> 00:35:20,500 The liability. Because of the negotiation, we have a liability. Now, going back to 2012, I would imagine this is somewhat unique to the police, but I was just wondering if there were other situations where we might find that we have to add to the pension sometime in the future. 136 00:35:20,500 --> 00:35:31,940 Well, we do have overall this past unfunded liability, but in terms of adding to that unfunded liability, I don't I mean, the only the only one before us now is pension. 137 00:35:31,940 --> 00:35:34,860 Okay. 138 00:35:34,860 --> 00:35:36,340 All right. Thank you. 139 00:35:36,340 --> 00:35:38,260 Police just said police pension. 140 00:35:38,260 --> 00:35:38,700 I got. 141 00:35:38,700 --> 00:35:39,500 It. Yeah. 142 00:35:39,500 --> 00:35:43,100 Thank you. 143 00:35:43,100 --> 00:35:54,800 All those in favor, say aye. Opposed? Nay. Motion carries. 144 00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,840 Encumbrances. 145 00:35:56,840 --> 00:36:01,240 Be it resolved that the Board of Finance recommends to Town Council. 146 00:36:01,240 --> 00:36:12,440 The approval of the fiscal year 2026 carry forward of encumbrances as appropriations from fund balance as follows. $446,700. 147 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:17,960 56 S2: 148 00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:23,960 Second discussion. 149 00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:48,560 Before you. You have the list of open encumbrances as of 630 2026. Um, we've already ordered the goods. We just didn't receive them. See them. So this is a, you know, an accounting adjustment that we need to do to make sure that we can, uh, pay them in fiscal year 2027, but not impact the fiscal year 2027 budget. 150 00:36:48,560 --> 00:37:02,490 Are we optimistic? I know some of the the larger amounts are for large pieces of equipment, and I know those have become difficult sometimes to get on a timely matter. 151 00:37:02,490 --> 00:37:03,010 Are we pretty optimistic that's going to happen in the short term? S6: 152 00:37:03,010 --> 00:37:04,930 Good. Okay. 153 00:37:04,930 --> 00:37:12,010 Further discussion? Hearing none. All those in favor, say aye. Aye. Opposed? Nay. Motion carries. 154 00:37:12,010 --> 00:37:21,610 I will say computer computers and computer parts are are slow these days. So with with everything going on yes. 155 00:37:21,610 --> 00:37:23,010 I. 156 00:37:23,010 --> 00:37:27,930 I guess it's due to the tech build out of all these data centers. 157 00:37:27,930 --> 00:37:36,450 No. 1F3F communication review capital capital outlay. Carryforwards. 158 00:37:36,450 --> 00:38:23,070 Yep. Uh, the list is before you. It's $952,000. Um, these are monies by charter. We can reserve for up to three years and roll forward. Um, and all the additional transfers. So like the $146,000 is already included in here. The change for the equipment for it is also in here. So those transfers that the board of the Board of Finance was able to approve over $5,000 that weren't Inter-department are already included in the, um, um, the $952,000 before you. 159 00:38:23,070 --> 00:38:25,070 So this is just informational, but are there any questions? S1: 160 00:38:25,070 --> 00:40:01,180 Yeah. So see, we're operating, uh, finished the year, uh, 601,000 over revenue over expenditures. Fund balance is growing 4.3 million to $4.98 million. Sewer sinking fund. Not a crazy amount of activity, but it did finish the year contributing about $82,000 to fund balance. Um, as you guys know, the plan for Parker Terrace is, um, to be funded out of the sewer sinking fund. I believe that that's close to kick off. So I would imagine in fiscal year 2027, we'll begin to see that that fund balance kind of slowly come down a little bit. And then on to the rec activity that finishes the year with program revenue at about 2.1 million expenditures at 2.2. So it did have an operational loss. Um, fund balance is 1.4 million from 1.25 million for fiscal year 2025. Uh, the decrease though was anticipated. Um, we had planned to use about $30,000 to purchase playground equipment. We only ended up needing to use about 15,000. So it still had a good solid year. Uh, private duty revenues exceed the year by about $58,000, and the fund balance increased from 384,000 to 442,000. 161 00:40:01,180 --> 00:40:02,820 Any questions on the special revenue funds? S1: 162 00:40:02,820 --> 00:41:18,590 Yeah. So there was um that really should just read pension Opeb. We do quarterly. So we don't report it for July 2026. But for the um pension investment for July, um assets were valued at 283.6 million through the end of July. The plan was about 8.3 million higher than when we started the fiscal year. We had unrealized loss of 1.6 million investment income of about $218,000. Um, also included in the packet is the August Flash reports. I believe they um, um, made the change that was requested to break out fiscal year and calendar year in the year to date totals. So you should find that in the flash reports. That's it for the pension except for the update. One of the things I handed out to you guys was an update in the ordinance. Um long process, but we finally have updated and adopted the ordinance. And the Board of Finance is the trustee for the pension matches in line with what's already in place for the Opeb. 163 00:41:18,590 --> 00:41:20,230 So this has been adopted. 164 00:41:20,230 --> 00:41:21,430 Yes. 165 00:41:21,430 --> 00:41:22,310 And it's in effect. 166 00:41:22,310 --> 00:41:22,990 Yeah. 167 00:41:22,990 --> 00:41:23,790 Okay. 168 00:41:23,790 --> 00:41:34,550 It was just in section two, just 73. There was a sentence that I thought was part of a sentence. Unnecessary, but. But it's all right. 169 00:41:34,550 --> 00:41:35,510 Don't mess with it. 170 00:41:35,510 --> 00:41:39,510 No. 171 00:41:39,510 --> 00:41:48,400 No. 172 00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:48,720 I think. 173 00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:57,600 We're on. I think for any questions on for A, B or C. 174 00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:04,240 I'm probably not within investments. Chris. 175 00:42:04,240 --> 00:42:24,080 As of July 31st, 2026, the town's pooled cash investment balance was 54.66 million. Um, the investment balance for all funds combined is about 122.4 million. Uh, moving on to the second page. 176 00:42:24,080 --> 00:43:58,670 As of the end of July, general fund portion of pooled investments was 117.1 million. General fund has realized investment earnings of 263 $969. Sewer sinking funds totaling 9.14 million were invested in fully insured CDs. Current year current realized investment earnings of about 13,000. And I think I mentioned the last meeting. We're starting to pull the money out of the sewer sinking fund CDs and get get it into the the checking account, for lack of a better term. Um, in anticipation of those funds being used. Um, so an additional $1,654 in interest was, was earned on those funds that have been taken out of CDs and put into our operating account. Um, so based on, you know, projections, our budget of 3.1 million, we're looking good so far through one month of the year. Um, July isn't, it's not, I wouldn't say it's one of our lower months, but it's also not one of our higher months. Um, you know, August, August is probably the biggest month. So we should see this number go up a lot. Um, the next meeting, um, and then the investment activity subsequent to July 31st. Um, just a little note about funds withdrawn, um additional funds withdrawn from the sewer sinking fund into our operating account. Um, and also the, you know, as we are now in a new fiscal year, the investment, the long term investment limit has gone up slightly based on the new budgetary amounts. 177 00:43:58,670 --> 00:43:59,430 Any questions? S8: 178 00:43:59,430 --> 00:44:04,990 For that. 179 00:44:04,990 --> 00:44:07,110 Financial summary. 180 00:44:07,110 --> 00:45:26,330 All right. So the expenditure report for August 2026. The first couple of months of fiscal year 27th August encumbrances total $78.7 million. Expenditures 35.6 million. Uh, that is 57.3% of the general fund budget. Last year, we were pretty much right in line, 74.8 million in encumbrances and 39.3 million in expenditures, 57.9% of the budget. So overall, the decrease in expenditures is allocated 109,000 to the town, 938 to the Board of Education and 2.6 million in debt and transfers. The decrease in the town operations is primarily due to our workers comp premium. So for fiscal year 2027, we had savings of about $261,000. Um, we went with kurma, which was, uh, an annual renewal of 512,000. And last year we were with travelers and that was $773,000. So that's really where the savings for us is. 181 00:45:26,330 --> 00:45:27,570 Any questions on August? S1: 182 00:45:27,570 --> 00:46:10,820 Yeah. So capital projects for August. Total budget is 146.6 million. Life to date expenditures at about 112 million. Um, for the first two months of the fiscal year, we have been spending money mainly on our road projects. We've spent $1.7 million in town aid road that fund. We've spent 948,000, the drainage town Wide solutions 124, and the pool filter system replacement um is 300 and $398,000. 183 00:46:10,820 --> 00:46:11,700 Any questions on those that update? S1: 184 00:46:11,700 --> 00:46:56,000 Yeah. All right. So self-insurance um we're not starting the year off with a bang here. Um, we're at a $3.2 million loss at the end of the fiscal year. Um, hopefully this will level out soon. You know, the Board of Education doesn't contribute its full contributions in the months of July and August. September is when it starts to kick off. So you'll see those contributions, uh, swinging upwards in the next few months. Uh, there was one large claim already for, um, the Board of Education. Uh, town reserves as of August are 5.7 million. Uh, board of education is 366,000. Any questions on that. 185 00:46:56,000 --> 00:46:57,840 Jim? 186 00:46:57,840 --> 00:47:03,680 Setting aside timing for the board of Ed, what happens if they run out of money? 187 00:47:03,680 --> 00:47:05,000 Um, so. 188 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:14,120 They have two preemies born this month and bills come in for $1 million. It's all well and good to say what we're going to have money. 189 00:47:14,120 --> 00:48:06,650 Who covers that? S3: 190 00:48:06,650 --> 00:48:08,090 But didn't. 191 00:48:08,090 --> 00:48:08,970 You know? 192 00:48:08,970 --> 00:48:16,730 But didn't we make a contribution to bring it back? Wasn't there a one time contribution made by the town to bring theirs up? 193 00:48:16,730 --> 00:48:47,590 Yes. Yep. So the town was really good and saw that there was an issue and we were operating in the red. And then at year end, what it would do was look at those balances that were left in the employee related insurance. You know, we have such variances because depending on vacancies or elections and stuff like that, and it would sweep all those balances at year end And so it did. It made it an additional contribution. And then it swept balances. So it built it up. It built it up fairly nicely, you know. 194 00:48:47,590 --> 00:49:33,550 So although you're not the board of Ed, have they had any discussion about sweeping their surplus or some portion of it into, or should we request that they take a look at that? I mean, we're we're pretty I mean, the Board of Editors position, and I'm going to summarize it and correct me if I'm wrong, but from the previous superintendent was basically, well, you have good years and bad years, mostly the good years out run the bad years and it all kind of works out. I'm getting a little concerned here at $365,000, when they're the bulk of the employees covered under this plan. 195 00:49:33,550 --> 00:49:50,280 So the question becomes, do we start recommending they take some action here? S2: 196 00:49:50,280 --> 00:50:26,960 What would those contribution numbers look like just in comparison to what they look like here? S3: 197 00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:31,160 Is there any stop gap money coming back right now. Any large claim money. 198 00:50:31,160 --> 00:50:41,620 Any large stop. Yeah. Stop loss. No, we booked that. everything that we were supposed to receive as of 630, we've already got booked back. Yeah. 199 00:50:41,620 --> 00:50:56,620 So September, I'm assuming, is a normal month for the Board of Education. At least it used to be. So we would see those numbers go up significantly. And they might give us a better barometer against their claims to see where we are. I don't know, it might not, but I'm hopeful that. 200 00:50:56,620 --> 00:51:05,540 I bring it up because I am concerned. I mean, we're really running, you know, and I know there's always a timing issue, but this is getting a little tight now. 201 00:51:05,540 --> 00:51:15,340 So Kerry, could you run through those numbers on the board of that again you said normal. Oh sorry. You said normal contributions. Say September is approximately how much. 202 00:51:15,340 --> 00:51:18,260 About 1.5 million. 203 00:51:18,260 --> 00:51:20,540 From then they get additional from. 204 00:51:20,540 --> 00:51:23,300 About four $400,000. 205 00:51:23,300 --> 00:51:28,060 And this is over a 9 or 10 month period of time. Yep. Nine month. 206 00:51:28,060 --> 00:51:33,350 Nine month, I believe. Yeah. And that I would have to double check. I don't know if it's ten. 207 00:51:33,350 --> 00:51:34,270 I think it's ten months. 208 00:51:34,270 --> 00:51:35,830 Ten months or nine. 209 00:51:35,830 --> 00:51:55,870 So ten, so ten months. So they're taking in $1,919 million a year. And and your and we're going through 400,000 a month. So, so we're expending 5 million and we're taking in 19 million. 210 00:51:55,870 --> 00:51:57,510 No. 211 00:51:57,510 --> 00:52:00,590 It's just on the surface doesn't add up to me. 212 00:52:00,590 --> 00:52:04,390 There are claims in this month were significantly more. 213 00:52:04,390 --> 00:52:09,430 Look at what they budgeted in the ten months. 214 00:52:09,430 --> 00:52:10,390 You're right. 215 00:52:10,390 --> 00:52:10,790 My math. 216 00:52:10,790 --> 00:52:12,870 Wrong. I don't know what their budget number was. 217 00:52:12,870 --> 00:52:17,230 So their budget. So more than likely something's off there. 218 00:52:17,230 --> 00:52:18,910 Yeah. 219 00:52:18,910 --> 00:52:22,070 They did the math wrong. 220 00:52:22,070 --> 00:52:28,150 This is Jim pointed out it would be dependent upon what they budgeted as to how much money would be going in there. 221 00:52:28,150 --> 00:52:30,270 Definitely. 222 00:52:30,270 --> 00:52:32,690 Yeah. 223 00:52:32,690 --> 00:52:36,970 What? Kerry's looking that up. I believe this was a subject of discussion at the last Board of Ed meeting. 224 00:52:36,970 --> 00:52:37,250 I think. 225 00:52:37,250 --> 00:52:43,410 It was. And there may have been some numbers discussed as well. So you may want to if you get time to check the minutes or watch the video. 226 00:52:43,410 --> 00:52:50,090 Yeah. So the expenses are I must have done my math wrong. So 15 million is their average expense. 227 00:52:50,090 --> 00:52:50,610 Okay. 228 00:52:50,610 --> 00:52:56,010 Yeah. So I must have, um, done math to the better for them. 229 00:52:56,010 --> 00:52:56,650 Way better. 230 00:52:56,650 --> 00:52:57,770 Yeah. 231 00:52:57,770 --> 00:53:05,610 And it doesn't look like they're contributing much in June. From what I can see. So it's like nine months of contributions. Nine months, nine nine. 232 00:53:05,610 --> 00:53:07,170 I don't remember. 233 00:53:07,170 --> 00:53:07,970 I don't. 234 00:53:07,970 --> 00:53:12,450 Are there some nine and some ten month employees I don't remember. Jim and I should remember that. 235 00:53:12,450 --> 00:53:12,690 Next. 236 00:53:12,690 --> 00:53:15,170 Month. Yeah. I think we should see where we are next. 237 00:53:15,170 --> 00:53:17,050 Yeah. Yeah. 238 00:53:17,050 --> 00:53:23,610 Oh, great. 239 00:53:23,610 --> 00:53:24,210 Um. 240 00:53:24,210 --> 00:53:30,210 Number nine is informational. 241 00:53:30,210 --> 00:53:33,420 And ten. 242 00:53:33,420 --> 00:53:44,620 Transfers over 5000. None back colonization. 243 00:53:44,620 --> 00:53:50,580 Do you have that? Any questions on it? S9: 244 00:53:50,580 --> 00:53:58,580 And the item with the board of Ed. I'm assuming they're just working on it. That's. 245 00:53:58,580 --> 00:54:42,480 What I know is that they're scheduled for a budget committee meeting on Monday the 28th at 9:00 at this time. Um, I have I just had a conversation with, uh, board member Thompson. Um, I presented them with a binders with the budget all laid out so they can have a discussion about kind of what to do. I don't know what their staff came up with. That's up to them. Um, I will try to attend. I've been told I'm not permitted to address them or answer questions, but that's how they do business. So that's where it's at. And then I guess they'll figure out what they want to do. 246 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:48,920 Next would have to go from the budget committee to then the full board before anything would be decided. 247 00:54:48,920 --> 00:55:01,560 Yeah, I just hope to be able to have some conversation about it. Um, it's something I've been worked on for a long time. It doesn't matter where it is. 248 00:55:01,560 --> 00:55:09,880 Uh, item 13 committee reports. PBC doesn't have any. Susan. Yes. Okay. Item 14. 249 00:55:09,880 --> 00:55:11,880 Move to adjourn. 250 00:55:11,880 --> 00:55:12,960 Second. 251 00:55:12,960 --> 00:55:14,200 All those in favor, say aye. 252 00:55:14,200 --> 00:55:14,800 Aye. 253 00:55:14,800 --> 00:55:14,800 Opposed? Nay. Adjourned.