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Good evening.

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Katie is finalizing her stuff, but she should be on in just a second.

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Cole is going to join us, too.

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Stacey, can you just confirm you can hear me?

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Good evening.

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Hi, Mary.

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Hi.

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I didn't think we were even going to be on.

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So thank you guys for opening up the meeting and recording.

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I recognize it, but I like this.

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Did we hear back from Mr. Mulherrin?

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Not that I'm aware.

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I think we're, we never did.

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that I'm not sure what happened.

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Okay, I do believe I've kind of talked to him this week

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and I know his intention was to participate.

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Okay.

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We'll see.

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Yeah, I told him to maybe check the spam folder

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and I know she did because I had had some issues

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with his emails going immediately to spam

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for some reason for quite some time, so.

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Well, we'll see.

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Maybe he wasn't getting our emails.

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We need more members, Mary.

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Yeah.

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We have a quorum tonight regardless.

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Even if John's not here.

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Five, six. Yes, six. Well, that's good.

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Six we're planning to attend. So without counting, John.

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All right,

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where are my comments?

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Stay? Yes, sorry. No, definitely not. I should probably turn my video on so you can see me

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moving cats around. I'm just teasing. I suspected that's what

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you were doing, but I had your cats know how to stay on

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command. I had to open the door.

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They listen pretty well.

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There's John. John. Good deal.

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You don't have to RSVP if you

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just show up. Right, John?

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He says right. He's on mute. I

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know.

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I was on mute. I know. Right. Didn't read my

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Dave, I thought you were a not going to make it but you are here glad to see this and you're on mute also.

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I can't hear Dave you're on mute but I just know I know yeah.

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We definitely have a quorum so that's delightful to see both Dave and John.

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Kelly, I don't know if we put this anywhere.

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We're reading written comments after we take public comment in case the person who's written

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in speaks.

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So we have talked about this a few times, and Mary, correct me if I'm wrong, but your

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preference was that we read the comments first in case those that were planning on

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making a comment heard their comment already and then didn't want to speak, I don't

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know.

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Well, you had we're going to ask them at that time if they have written a comment whether they want the comments read or

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Okay, whether they'd like to speak to the audience in lieu of reading the comments. We weren't going to do both

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right, so I

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Don't really I don't have a preference in how we do it. I just want to make sure we make we

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You know say that in the beginning so okay, that's in the opening statement for yeah

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And in the opening statement the way I worded it says that we're going to read the comments first

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Is that correct? So if we can if we're going to change that plan, let me know and I will modify my comments

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Mary I believe it's they either have a written comment or they can speak they're not supposed to do vote right right, okay

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You look like you're cold. I know doesn't she mm-hmm

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Okay, I look cold I'm always cold

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Perpetually cold.

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What?

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That was in a Floridian, but it was just Chicago.

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It's my own fault.

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need a bigger platform here.

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I've got papers, and it's only one agenda item,

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but it's generated a lot of paper today.

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I bought a Christmas tree today.

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Aww.

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Yay.

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Congratulations.

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I'm going to get my Christmas decoration up pretty soon.

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So it's a Grinch tree. It's cute. Oh, thank you

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Trader Joe's

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It's Tracy doing show and tell is that what's going on? I got a Grinch tree today

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I now have a Grinch tree and which was a lie and then I have a fake Charlie Brown tree Trader Joe's

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The Grinch tree was at Trader Joe's. Yeah, they always get me with that thing right when you walk in the door

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got three screens going

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All sorts of documents I might need to reference.

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I just got one screen and then documents behind it. So I will.

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I have no doubt I will get confused today. So anyway.

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Just going to happen.

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So I, I think we've got all of the plan commission.

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Missioners here that are planning to attend. Is that correct?

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We are just going to miss.

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Commissioner Berry, correct? Okay.

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That's why my clock is ticking towards 7. And I'm assuming the petitioners here, but we do have a lot of attendees and I'm not sure if they are.

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Let me look.

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One of them is here. Yes.

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We're good. Yep. All right. All right. I think I'm then going to go ahead and call to order the village of Glen Allen Plan Commission meeting for Thursday, November 7.

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12, 2020. I have some remarks that I'm going to read before we do our roll call vote for

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those who are in attendance so they understand the proceedings if they haven't been to one

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of our plan commission meetings via Zoom before or even a plan commission meeting at all.

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So good evening. My name is Mary Locke and I'm the chairperson of this commission. The

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Glen Ellen Plan Commission is advisory in nature and the actual cold relief requested

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can only be granted by the village of Glenelon Board of Trustees.

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The plan commission's function is to listen to whatever testimony is offered by the petitioners and others.

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We take significant evidence, listen to input from the petitioners and the audience,

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agree on the facts which we have found from the evidence,

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consider and deliberate amongst ourselves, and then we make a recommendation to the village board.

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forward. This meeting will be conducted by video conference through Zoom without a physically

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present quorum of the Plan Commission because of a disaster declaration related to COVID-19

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and public health concerns affecting the village of Glen Ellen. An in-person meeting at the

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Civic Center is not practical or prudent because of the disaster and therefore the

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chairperson, commissioners, village manager, village attorney and any members of the

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at the Civic Center. The commissioners and staff participating in tonight's meeting

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are in different locations in accordance with the social distancing guidelines.

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It is important that the public hearings scheduled for tonight

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be heard to continue critical village business which will enable ongoing

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Construction, development, protection of property values, and the promotion of the village's

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economic vitality. Any individual desiring to listen and or participate in the meeting by

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telephone or through the electronic meeting platform has been provided that opportunity

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through Zoom participation information included in the various public notices and the agenda

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for this meeting. Since we are using an electronic meeting platform, we expect there to be some

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technical difficulties as we move through our agenda, or maybe we should say maybe not

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expect that it might happen.

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So please bear with us.

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At this point, I would like to describe the remote proceedings of the Plan Commission

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for those of you who are not familiar with the process.

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For the item on the agenda this evening, the staff will make a presentation on the

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request first.

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Then the Plan Commission will ask the questions of the staff.

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The petitioner will then make a presentation on their proposal, and the Plan Commission

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we'll ask questions of the petitioner.

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When it is time for public comment,

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staff will read into the record any comments received

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in writing in advance of the meeting.

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Note, if you're on the call and you did submit written comments,

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would you, if you would rather speak to the commission

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during the public comment portion

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rather than have your comments read,

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please raise your hand through the Zoom platform

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to let us know of your preference.

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prior to the staff reading the comments. Public participation may provide comments either through

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written comments or speaking. This is to ensure each person is provided an equal amount of time

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to comment. Following the reading of any written comments, which of course we have some for this

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evening, members of the audience who wish to speak will be asked to raise their hand through the

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be called on, unmuted, and given three minutes to comment. After you speak, you will be muted once

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again. Please note that there may be a slight delay between becoming unmuted and being able to begin

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speaking or being heard by us. Everyone who will be presenting information or asking questions to

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this commission during the public hearing will be required to do so under oath and all comments

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will be recorded so that written minutes can be prepared for this meeting.

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Just a reminder that all speakers are asked to present their comments in a respectful

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and courteous manner.

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If inappropriate language or comments are expressed during this meeting, we will mute

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the speaker and end their participation.

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After the public comment portion of the meeting, the public hearing will be closed

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and no further comment from the public will be permitted.

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The plan commission will discuss the material that has been presented and make our recommendation to the village board. Everyone is welcome to stay and hear our deliberations.

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With us tonight for the benefit of those in the audience, we have community development director Stacy Springer, who is raising her hand who is administering this meeting on zoom.

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We have Planner Kelly Purvis, we have Planner Katie Ashbaugh, and Associate Planner Cole,

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who may be on here via phone, because I don't see his name in the panelist's discussion.

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And we have Bill Enright, our Village Board trustee, and we have Barb Dutton, our recording

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secretary.

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Would Barb please call the roll?

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Director Springer, I think that Barb might be in the attendees,

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her phone might be.

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Yeah, just got moved over, and though she has to unmute.

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So, Barb, can you unmute?

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Because we can't hear you, please.

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Well, should we deal with this technical difficulty

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that someone else want to call the roll, so we can move on?

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All right. I'm trying this. Can you hear me now?

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I can hear you now.

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Okay, try to different methods to unmute.

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Saved by the label.

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All right. I will now take the roll. Chairperson Locke.

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Here.

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Plan Commissioner Berry.

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Plan Commissioner Brown.

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Here.

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Plan Commissioner Fanella.

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Here.

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Plan Commissioner Heming-Litwin.

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Here.

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Plan Commissioner Moharan.

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Here.

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Plan Commissioner Roderman.

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them. Here. Plan Commissioner Saeed. Here. Plan Commissioner Vandreska. Here.

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Chairperson

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Locke, we have a quorum. All right. Thank you so much, Barb. The next thing I need is

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a motion to allow remote participation by the Plan Commission. So moved. In a second

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please. I second. Thank you. And Barb, we had Commissioner Heming-Litwin and I believe

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Commissioner Saeed. Make a motion and second would you take a roll call vote please again?

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I will do. Plan commissioner Heming-Litwin. Yes. Plan commissioner Saeed. Yes.

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Chairperson Locke. Yes.

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Plan commissioner Brown. Yes. Plan commissioner Fanella. Yes.

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Plan Commissioner Moharan.

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Plan Commissioner Rodiman.

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Plan Commissioner Von Druskow.

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Yes.

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The motion passes.

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Okay, thank you very much.

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The next agenda item would be public comment

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by anybody who is in the intended portion

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that would like to speak to the plan commission

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on a topic that is not on tonight's agenda.

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Given that tonight's agenda is predominantly the development of the McChesney site.

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If anybody is here to speak to the plan commission on a subject other than that,

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now is your opportunity to raise your Zoom hand and let us know.

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Does anybody see anybody who is raising a hand on that?

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I do not.

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I do not either.

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The next agenda item would be approval of the draft minutes from the October 22nd,

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2020 plan commission meeting.

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Is there any discussion on the minutes?

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All right, may have a motion to approve them.

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So moved.

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May have a second?

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Second.

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All right, may have a roll call vote please.

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Barb, Commissioner Heming-Litwin made the motion

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and Commissioner Mulherrin had the second.

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OK, here we go.

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Plan commissioner Heming-Litwin.

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the motion passes. Okay, thank you very much. Our next agenda item is the development or the

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request, excuse me, for the development of the Glenwood station and it's a PUDD request with

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the public hearing. And what I need before we get started is a motion to open the public

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hearing, please. So moved. I need a second, please. Second. Again, Barb, Commissioner

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Heming-Litwin made the motion to open the public hearing. Commissioner Mulherran,

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seconded it. May I have a roll call vote, please? Yes. Plan Commissioner Heming-Litwin.

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Yes.

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Thank Commissioner Mulherin.

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Chairperson Locke.

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Yes.

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Thank Commissioner Brown.

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Yes.

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Thank Commissioner Fanella.

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Yes.

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Thank Commissioner Rodiman.

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Yes.

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Thank Commissioner Saeed.

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Yes.

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Thank Commissioner Vandreska.

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Yes.

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The motion to open the public hearing passes.

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All right. Thank you very much. We will start our public hearing. And as described in the early comments, the first person who or the staff will now give the overview of the presentation.

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And so we will need a swearing in of our presenter who is Katie is Katie presenting us.

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All right.

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But we are going to also have Kelly and Stacey sworn in as well, just in case we need to jump in and help answer any questions.

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Okay, that would be great.

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Right, would you please state your name, your professional capacity and your business address for the public record?

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So, I'll go first. Stacey Springer, director of community development, 535 Dwayne Street.

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Thank you. Kelly Purvis, I am a planner for the village 535 Dwayne Street.

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Katie Ashwell, planner for the village of Gwinellin, 535 Dwayne Street.

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Thank you, Katie.

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All right, Katie, I think you can go.

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Well, we need to be sworn. Oh, I'm sorry.

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Okay, sorry. All right, next question. Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth,

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nothing but the truth. I do. I do. I do. Okay. All right. Now you may take it away. Thank you.

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All

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right. Can everyone see? Yes. State Historic Preservation Review. The wrong

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slide. Okay. We'll see Glenwood Station. 460 Crescent. So, Asher Person Locke

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introduced tonight we're reviewing a request for planting a development with zoning deviations,

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a special use for multifamily dwellings and exterior appearance for the property located at

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460 Crescent Boulevard and their request is being made by holiday properties.

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So my presentation I'll try to keep it as brief but as informative as possible so I will go

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through the public outreach, the review process, background regarding the site

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location and the zoning. Then I'll review the project summary and what is being

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proposed. I will go through the exterior appearance proposed for the

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building and what in greater detail the zoning relief being requested. And then

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lastly the plan commission action this evening. So first the public outreach

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That is required in accordance with state statue and the village code is that public hearing notice be published in the newspaper 15 to 30 days prior on the public hearing notice was published on October 28, 2020 in the Daily Herald.

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And then the public hearing notice was also mailed to property owners with the 350 feet of the subject property on October 27.

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and a placard was also placed on the property on the 28th of October. In addition to the

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required public outreach and public notice, the village participated in some interviews

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with the Daily Herald to spread the word about the development and also released some information

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on its various news platforms.

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So the day before the public hearing notice was published.

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There was an article about tonight's meeting

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and the project on October 27th in the Daily Herald.

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The village's website,

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there's a dedicated webpage as well for the project.

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That page was updated on October 30th.

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And then on November 4th,

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the village's social media platforms

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made posts about tonight's meeting.

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and then the e-news publication that's released via email and economic development e-news

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from the village also included this information.

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On the fifth, the electronic message sign by the metro station at Maine and Crescent

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also started sharing a notice of the meeting tonight and this last Wednesday's e-news

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from the economic development for the village and then also just the standard village e-news

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also have information again. And then the downtown alliance also shared information about

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tonight's meeting. Oh, and on November 5th, the Chamber of Commerce also sent out an

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email blast about tonight's meeting. So there's been a lot of coordination with the

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chamber as well as the downtown alliance. So for those in the public that are not

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not as familiar with the plan commission review process.

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So on May 14th, the petitioner did present

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a pre-application meeting for a concept development.

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And I'll kind of highlight what parts of the development

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are different tonight versus what

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the plan commission reviewed back in May.

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The pre-application is required

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as part of the planning and development process.

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And it's informal, no action is taken,

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no action was taken at that time.

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It was just generic feedback

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back to guide the developer prior to submitting

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for tonight's hearing.

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Tonight, the plan commission will be making a recommendation

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to approve approved conditions or deny the requests

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that the plan commission's reviewing,

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which are the preliminary and final PUD.

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A special use permit for multifamily residential, zoning deviations associated with the PUD, and

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then lastly, the exterior appearance of the project. And, tentatively, the village board

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is scheduled to review the request and the recommendations from the planning commission

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on December 14th.

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So now to just kind of touch on the zoning and the surrounding conditions

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of the property. Property is zone C5B central service sub-district on all four sides across

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in across Glenwood is C5A the central retail sub-district primarily to the west is the central

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service sub-district. So this is just a zoom in of the zoning map. You'll see immediately to the

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south is also the U.P. West rail line.

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This is a two-foot contour map of the site. There is

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kind of a topography change of the northwest corner and also along the north lot line where

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you'll see there's a drop and you'll see later in the site plan where there's a retaining wall

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that they'll be extending.

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This is an aerial photo of the site to take

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orient everyone. This is Glen Oak Cafe. This is Barones. And then this is Boards Auto.

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This is the village on Metra lot, the Crescent Glen One Parking Lot. And then across is the

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beer cellar and some other retail.

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You can see this a little more closely here.

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So the existing conditions on the site, the site is eight-tenths of an acre

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approximately. On the site now, as has been since 2014, is a single-storey

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commercial building formerly in the Chesney Miller grocery store. It's about

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13,500 square feet and they're served by 42 stall surface parking lot.

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So

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six years now and just to kind of look at the street view here. These are all from

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Google Street View so sign is still there.

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Now to just talk about the

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long-range planning that's been done for this area. In general the comprehensive

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plan in 2001 did recommend mixed use on this site. It's just outside the

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pedestrian shopping area that was identified in 2001. The certain factors

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should be considered as part of this as was recommended in 2001. I should note

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that the village is currently updating this comprehensive plan and that's still

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in review but as of 2001 this is the one that we're still referring to for

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the redevelopment of this site and then in 2009 the village approved a

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the downtown strategic plan specifically for this area.

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It again identified this block as a location for mixed use,

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but primarily residential as it's in the C5B district

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and it's on the periphery

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of the central downtown shopping area.

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It also recommended one to lower levels of parking,

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which as I'll share later, this building does include that.

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So,

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in general, the proposed development is five stories, six levels.

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So one of the levels is below grade.

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The village measures overall maximum height from the average existing grade to the very

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top of the building of whatever is on top of the roof.

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So the elevator overrun, rooftop mechanical units, those are all included in the overall

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maximum height rather than just the roof line.

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I'll share some slides later that illustrate this.

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This building is actually, the building being reviewed tonight is actually two feet three

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inches shorter than the one reviewed on May 14th.

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The one reviewed on May 14th was 68 feet 11 inches.

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And now the top of the elevator over on it is 66 feet eight inches.

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There's also 1,490 square feet of commercial space and one of the comments at the plan

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commission meeting in May asked for an increase in the commercial space.

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The petitioners accommodated that just over just about a quarter of an increase, quarter

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of a square foot and with an increase in 287 square feet.

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The number of dwelling units and the number of proposed parking stalls are

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the same as was reviewed in May with a 1.2 parking stall per dwelling unit

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ratio and the apartment lobby has increased a little bit to 1,350 square

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feet.

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So something to address, this site is not within either of the

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National Registered Districts in the village and the North downtown district

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district or the South downtown district. It is also a, not a local landmark. So on the

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store preservation commission and the village board have not designated this as a local

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landmark requiring any sort of historic review by the village. The State Historic Preservation

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Office has also taken a look at the site and they did issue a letter on September

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10, 2020 that stated no historic architectural or archeological sites exist within the

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project area. However, given it is in the downtown and the community is still

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sensitive to new developments, the historic preservation community has taken a

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look at the project and did provide feedback, which the petitioner will be

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discussing later how they've incorporated some of that feedback and

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also architectural precedent from the downtown into their design.

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So to kind

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And before I go into all of the zoning review, I just wanted to show what was reviewed at

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the May 14, 2020, Pre-Application meeting.

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And I'll go through some of those renderings.

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So this is the southeast corner of the building looking northwest.

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They were originally a couple of tower elements on the east and south sides of the building.

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and the balconies were not as did not have as reinforced platforms below and the crescent

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boulevard first floor elevation was designed differently with some metal grates and plantings.

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So what they propose now they have removed the tower elements and they've actually pushed

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this the top second through fifth floors back 10 feet from the Crescent lot line

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so only the first floor is at the lot line along Crescent to reduce the bulk

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and then they've also reinforced the supports under the balconies with some

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cast-stone design. They also are proposing six light double-hung windows

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And the window and door systems are all black as opposed to the white or light gray seen back in May.

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Finally, they are using an Armstrong plaster for material for the cornices, which I'll touch on a little more as I go through the exterior appearance.

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So here's the rest of the before and afters. You

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can just see a little bit different of the first floor elevation.

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and

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this is looking southwest.

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The balconies previously were just projecting out from the

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building and now they've been recessed by one foot and better integrated into the north elevation

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and these are the nighttime renderings.

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So for the proposed elevations, I'll just start with

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some of the material details. They're using three different shades of brick. They've got a

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carbon gray, revere pewter gray, and a cranberry velour as the red. And then the cast stone is

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more of a limestone type of pew. And then the, again, the windows and door systems are black.

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The petitioners also incorporating a clock element here, which they'll speak to in their

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presentation. And the second floor apartments now have enlarged balconies

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that are consistent size with the club room balcony at the southeast corner.

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There's also pedestrian oriented lighting along the Crescent elevation and

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over at the southeast corner they're proposing gas lanterns and it's the

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pedestrian entrance to that apartment is also covered with an awning. And the garage doors

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also have been changed from a more commercial look to a more residential look with the paneled

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garage door. And they've been recessed six feet into the building.

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So, overall, the

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proposed elevations are in substantial conformance with the appearance review guidelines.

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So, four-sided building, they're using primarily brick and stone throughout the all four sides

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and the colors are neutral in tone and they have also created some pedestrian-oriented

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elements as well.

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So next, I will go through some of the zoning related to the elevations.

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This is still the south or corner side facing Crescent, the elevation, so the average

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It is measured four points on the lots, and then the average of those four points as defined

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by the required setbacks and where the setbacks kind of intersect with the billing line.

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From that point, you measure for the height.

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So in the C-5B district, and because they have parking enclosed on the lower floor,

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they have a bonus height. So that's how they're permitted to have 60 feet. The

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roofline is just under 60 feet and then the parapet wall is 62 feet 3 inches. So

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you'll see that it's the elevator run that is creating the larger height

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deviation here.

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This is the an illustration of the deviations for

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height but from the facade facing Glenwood and per the zoning code the front lot line is the shortest

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lot line abutting public right-of-way which would be the Glenwood side so that's why this is considered

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the front facade even though it's less dominant because it's shorter.

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This kind of alludes to

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what I mentioned earlier regarding some changes in the design. Previously the building was right

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on the crescent lot line all the way up and now they've pushed the building itself back

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10 feet and expanded the outdoor space for the second floor and they also they've maintained

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this space on the north elevation for those second floor apartments as well. So there's

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a zero foot approximately zero foot setback proposed on the corner sideline along crescent.

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The other deviation related to height is the step back requirement.

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So in the C5B district, the parts of the building that are taller than 45 feet are required to

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be step back 15 feet.

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So again, this green line indicates the wall plane that's facing Glenwood, although you're

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looking at the crescent elevation here. So if you're looking north from crescent, the building

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is required to be stepped back along that yellow arrow. And so they're requesting a deviation

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to allow the building to continue all the way up.

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And then lastly, this is the north elevation,

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or second to last, this is the north elevation facing Brony's and Glen Oak Cafe. So just

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illustrating the same deviations, the average lot line, or average of the

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same grade. And finally, this is the elevation facing Lord's auto-quenant,

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so

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that this illustration does kind of show the grade change there.

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This is the

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landscape plan that's proposed, so they're proposing a combination of some

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and deciduous and coniferous shrubbery

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along the North Watt line here.

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And you're able to get back there if necessary

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through this gate.

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Then from Glenwood, this is the loading space.

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This is not required per the co,

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but because the commercial space

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is less than 5,000 square feet,

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they're providing that for the commercial space

478
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,740
in addition for resident move-in.

479
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:53,820
and this is one of this is a dog run that they're proposing for their

480
00:44:53,820 --> 00:44:58,500
residents and then immediately to the West they have their mechanical units in

481
00:44:58,500 --> 00:44:59,460
the emergency generator.

482
00:45:01,010 --> 00:45:09,390
There is a fence here that will screen the mechanical units from Glenwood if you're

483
00:45:09,390 --> 00:45:14,910
standing here and looking straight back. There is an existing retaining wall that's

484
00:45:14,910 --> 00:45:20,750
about one or two feet above grade on the east lot line. And then as you move

485
00:45:20,750 --> 00:45:28,290
west, they are proposing to extend it about 32 feet from the existing

486
00:45:28,290 --> 00:45:36,070
retaining wall and then the height of the retaining wall at this point is 11 feet and then the retaining

487
00:45:36,070 --> 00:45:44,710
wall will be extended and go to the building and they're surrounding all of the west lot line and

488
00:45:44,710 --> 00:45:51,270
the north lot line with an open five foot tall aluminum fence and then there's a four foot

489
00:45:51,270 --> 00:45:56,770
tall aluminum fence that's you're able to move it in case a vehicle to access this equipment

490
00:45:56,770 --> 00:46:00,870
needs to pull in, but it's a four-foot tall aluminum fence.

491
00:46:01,170 --> 00:46:02,630
And all the fencing is black.

492
00:46:06,690 --> 00:46:08,970
So now to take you inside the building,

493
00:46:09,330 --> 00:46:12,130
this is the lower level, the level to the low grade.

494
00:46:13,990 --> 00:46:17,410
The ramp to this level of the building

495
00:46:17,410 --> 00:46:21,150
is the eastern ramp closest to the southwest corner

496
00:46:21,150 --> 00:46:23,070
of the, southeast corner of the building.

497
00:46:24,190 --> 00:46:26,410
This area in yellow, I wanted to show

498
00:46:26,410 --> 00:46:28,950
one of the resident amenities.

499
00:46:28,950 --> 00:46:35,350
there's a pet spot for your pets down in the basement to give them a bath. Then

500
00:46:35,350 --> 00:46:40,430
you go into the parking. It's a counterclockwise circulation. There's 56

501
00:46:40,430 --> 00:46:48,390
stalls here and there is one compact stall. This is the one that requires the

502
00:46:48,390 --> 00:46:53,890
deviation from the minimum length requirement for 45 degree stalls. So

503
00:46:53,890 --> 00:46:58,410
they're requesting 16 feet 10 inches where 19 feet is required.

504
00:47:02,250 --> 00:47:03,670
So this is the

505
00:47:03,670 --> 00:47:10,350
at-grade floor plan. First to talk about the parking, the entrance is to the west

506
00:47:10,350 --> 00:47:19,290
over here. It is also counterclockwise and 48 spaces. This is the level with the

507
00:47:20,190 --> 00:47:25,110
ADA stalls over here that are required and they would go to the ramp and get

508
00:47:25,110 --> 00:47:33,330
to the elevator to enter the building. One of the configuration deviations is also in

509
00:47:33,330 --> 00:47:40,510
this area. So they're required to have 90 degree stalls are required of a 25 foot wide

510
00:47:40,510 --> 00:47:47,690
drive aisle. As you can see that stall doesn't quite have that distance straight down.

511
00:47:47,950 --> 00:47:50,490
So they're requesting a deviation for that.

512
00:47:53,380 --> 00:47:56,800
I wanted to go over the amenities on the

513
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:03,100
ground floor. So the items in yellow, those are the amenities that are just for the residents.

514
00:48:03,420 --> 00:48:09,540
So there's a bicycle studio, a craft room, meeting room, business center, and then the

515
00:48:09,540 --> 00:48:14,820
mail and package room. The purple is the office space for the on-site management

516
00:48:14,820 --> 00:48:23,060
that will be there. And the green is the lobby, so a little more of a public space.

517
00:48:23,060 --> 00:48:26,560
and then the red is the proposed commercial space.

518
00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:30,240
So they're proposing 1,490 square feet of commercial.

519
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:33,000
They mentioned earlier they,

520
00:48:33,140 --> 00:48:38,880
in May they were proposing 1,203 square feet, I believe.

521
00:48:40,990 --> 00:48:43,770
So before I go to the residential floors,

522
00:48:44,470 --> 00:48:47,370
the parking deviations in terms of number

523
00:48:47,370 --> 00:48:48,370
that are being requested,

524
00:48:48,950 --> 00:48:53,030
they're required to have 145 stalls for the residential

525
00:48:53,030 --> 00:48:56,250
and they're required to have six for the commercial.

526
00:48:56,790 --> 00:48:59,010
They're proposing a total of 104.

527
00:49:00,390 --> 00:49:04,410
The deviation that was listed in the public hearing notice

528
00:49:04,410 --> 00:49:09,030
and is included and suggested in the staff report

529
00:49:09,490 --> 00:49:12,450
is a deviation of 102.

530
00:49:13,090 --> 00:49:14,770
During the plan review process,

531
00:49:15,310 --> 00:49:18,350
staff has been coordinating with the engineer

532
00:49:18,350 --> 00:49:21,350
and architect to fit the ADA styles in.

533
00:49:21,350 --> 00:49:33,090
So, we felt that it would be best to leave any breathing room in the event, additional stalls are lost due to needing to accommodate the ADA requirements.

534
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:41,100
So, the site plan, this is level one at grade.

535
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:48,740
So, this slide was just the inside. This is showing the perimeter of the building.

536
00:49:48,740 --> 00:49:52,700
So I wanted to go through the setback requirements.

537
00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:59,700
A corner side yard setback deviation is needed on the required to have 39 feet, 6 inches.

538
00:50:00,420 --> 00:50:06,040
That is where the Lord's Auto Clinic is along Crescent.

539
00:50:06,500 --> 00:50:15,980
So in the C5B district, they're required to be at the lot line or they need to meet the setback of the adjacent building.

540
00:50:16,900 --> 00:50:22,520
This is a downtown, so it's not uncommon to have a zero-foot setback, but given the

541
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:26,880
Lord's building, which is also not the front facade of Lord's.

542
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,060
It's also one of Lord's corner sides.

543
00:50:29,750 --> 00:50:33,960
It's required to meet that setback, so they're requesting a deviation from that.

544
00:50:35,090 --> 00:50:42,860
They also need three impervious surface setback deviations from the northeast and south lot

545
00:50:42,860 --> 00:50:49,720
lines are proposing a zero foot impervious surface setback where five feet six inches is required.

546
00:50:50,460 --> 00:50:55,740
The emergency generator in between the north lot line and the north elevation

547
00:51:01,980 --> 00:51:02,660
is

548
00:51:06,050 --> 00:51:10,050
it's four feet seven inches where five feet six inches is required.

549
00:51:11,990 --> 00:51:18,830
Mechanical units which are the transformer and the switch gear for ComEd it's required to

550
00:51:18,830 --> 00:51:21,250
to be 11 feet and they're proposing three feet.

551
00:51:21,910 --> 00:51:24,170
And the petitioner has already been communicating

552
00:51:24,170 --> 00:51:28,010
with ComEd about their ability to access these here.

553
00:51:28,890 --> 00:51:30,770
So that is something they're able to do.

554
00:51:31,390 --> 00:51:33,670
We kind of flagged that early on

555
00:51:33,670 --> 00:51:37,050
and that's an okay location per ComEd.

556
00:51:40,560 --> 00:51:43,060
So again, just to highlight where these areas are

557
00:51:43,060 --> 00:51:44,820
and then the corner side yard setback

558
00:51:45,200 --> 00:51:48,120
is because Lourdes is located approximately here.

559
00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:49,160
So,

560
00:51:51,520 --> 00:51:58,280
the residential component, these are two of the typical one bed floor plans showing

561
00:51:58,280 --> 00:51:59,000
the balconies.

562
00:51:59,320 --> 00:52:04,340
So, one of the balconies kind of been projecting and then one of the inset balconies.

563
00:52:05,460 --> 00:52:13,560
So, the rents range and price from $1,440 to up to almost $2,900.

564
00:52:14,660 --> 00:52:23,820
They have junior one beds up to two beds plus dens with primarily one bed and two bed units.

565
00:52:25,840 --> 00:52:31,360
The petitioner will touch on the market study a little bit more in their presentation.

566
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,380
This is the second floor.

567
00:52:38,650 --> 00:52:43,520
The second floor has the other remaining amenities for the residents.

568
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,120
The fitness center is at the northeast corner.

569
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:49,200
There's a club room at the southwest corner.

570
00:52:49,600 --> 00:52:54,520
Both of those amenities have balconies or the rooftop terrace feature.

571
00:52:55,260 --> 00:52:59,480
And then the yellow is the size of the balconies for each apartment.

572
00:52:59,480 --> 00:53:06,060
So every single unit on this floor does have its own kind of private outdoor space.

573
00:53:07,240 --> 00:53:10,340
The fitness center is about 950 square feet.

574
00:53:10,900 --> 00:53:17,040
The rooftop patio is 1330 square feet and the club room is 1113 square feet.

575
00:53:17,700 --> 00:53:21,520
There's 20 apartments on this floor.

576
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:29,640
And then this slide is the remaining floors, so the third through fifth floors, the yellow

577
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:31,940
or the private balconies for those apartments.

578
00:53:33,980 --> 00:53:36,520
And again, just kind of cover everything.

579
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:42,140
We've got 86 of them apartments, and they're served by 104 parking stalls at this time.

580
00:53:42,740 --> 00:53:46,340
The relief for the parking count is no less than 102.

581
00:53:46,340 --> 00:53:46,700
two.

582
00:53:49,370 --> 00:53:54,610
So with that, they're requesting, again, a special use for the preliminary and final

583
00:53:54,610 --> 00:54:00,850
planning development with deviations, a special use permit for multi-family and exterior

584
00:54:00,850 --> 00:54:10,510
parents approval. So now the next few slides are a lot of text, but they're requesting

585
00:54:10,510 --> 00:54:19,210
3 deviations related to or 4 deviations related to parking. So, that's to allow the number

586
00:54:19,210 --> 00:54:26,050
of parking stalls where they're required to allow, they're required 151 total for both

587
00:54:26,050 --> 00:54:32,450
the commercial and residential. They're proposing 104. The relief cited in the public notice

588
00:54:32,450 --> 00:54:39,150
was 102 to allow one of the parking stalls to be compact stall at 16 feet 10 inches

589
00:54:39,150 --> 00:54:46,970
and then to allow a 14-foot dry vial for one of the 90-degree stalls. The setback deviations,

590
00:54:48,110 --> 00:54:55,290
they're to allow zero-foot setbacks from the corner side of our setback and then the northeast

591
00:54:55,290 --> 00:55:08,050
and south impervious surface setbacks. And finally, the four deviations for the building

592
00:55:08,050 --> 00:55:12,810
Building is proposed at 66 feet 8 inches.

593
00:55:13,450 --> 00:55:19,310
It was noticed it's approximately 67 feet, which to include the parapet walls, elevator

594
00:55:19,310 --> 00:55:26,230
overrun, HVAC units, mechanical units, any other rooftop structures, allow the front

595
00:55:26,230 --> 00:55:30,430
facade to not be stepped back where it's taller than 45 feet.

596
00:55:32,890 --> 00:55:36,530
This one I did not cover, but it is a deviation.

597
00:55:36,530 --> 00:55:45,760
They are requesting a maximum lock coverage of 84 percent where a lock coverage of 65 is permitted in accordance with the commercial plan U development standards.

598
00:55:48,010 --> 00:55:54,630
And then finally, the exterior light fixtures have exposed tops and sides where they're required to be shielded.

599
00:55:55,250 --> 00:56:05,010
So the light fixtures proposed that are long crescent and on the length of the crescent facade that kind of can share some of the up lighting.

600
00:56:05,010 --> 00:56:13,070
they require a deviation and so that's where those are coming from and they

601
00:56:13,070 --> 00:56:17,090
create that kind of lighting effect that has received some positive some

602
00:56:17,090 --> 00:56:18,510
positive mixed feedback.

603
00:56:21,330 --> 00:56:28,610
So lastly should the Commission elect to approve the

604
00:56:28,610 --> 00:56:36,850
requests. There are some conditions of approval. So the six on the screen are standard that

605
00:56:36,850 --> 00:56:44,190
we include with pretty much any new development. They need to construct the project in accordance

606
00:56:44,190 --> 00:56:49,970
with the plans that the plan commission and the village board review. They need to install

607
00:56:49,970 --> 00:56:55,230
and maintain the landscaping according to the landscape plan. They need to have a construction

608
00:56:55,230 --> 00:57:01,250
management plan that village staff reviews before they get issued a permit. They need to make sure

609
00:57:01,250 --> 00:57:07,510
all of the rooftop mechanical units are screened provided that doesn't go taller than the height

610
00:57:07,510 --> 00:57:15,790
deviation. If there's any temporary construction or any easements required that those be completed

611
00:57:15,790 --> 00:57:21,490
also before the issue of permits and then also that their plans are all consistent with one

612
00:57:21,490 --> 00:57:23,230
another when they submit for permit.

613
00:57:26,260 --> 00:57:29,180
Other conditions of approval are related

614
00:57:29,180 --> 00:57:34,740
to the developer coordinating with the village as the village pursues the

615
00:57:34,740 --> 00:57:40,680
streetscape improvements in the downtown. So as you may or may not be aware, the

616
00:57:40,680 --> 00:57:44,440
village is currently kind of reviewing the streetscape improvements in the

617
00:57:44,440 --> 00:57:48,180
downtown. So this is essentially that they need to coordinate, make sure the

618
00:57:48,180 --> 00:57:53,620
materials match that they put a bike rack in that matches the street's

619
00:57:53,620 --> 00:58:00,100
furniture the Village Board selects. They need to coordinate anything with the

620
00:58:00,100 --> 00:58:06,620
pickup drop-off area that they propose at the southwest southeast corner and

621
00:58:06,620 --> 00:58:10,640
that this is more of just so the petitioners are aware but that they

622
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:14,480
need an outdoor cafe license agreement with the Village for the outdoor

623
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:22,600
seeding along Glenwood. These are more unique to this development, not any development or

624
00:58:22,600 --> 00:58:30,420
development in the downtown. That's specifically that they need to just make sure their parking

625
00:58:30,420 --> 00:58:34,900
stalls are compliant with the Glen Island Code and then also the Illinois Accessibility Code,

626
00:58:35,500 --> 00:58:42,960
that they incorporate any additional design elements as the some additional design detail

627
00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:46,440
into their exterior appearance.

628
00:58:47,420 --> 00:58:49,600
There was a memo attached at the end

629
00:58:49,600 --> 00:58:51,220
of the meeting packet for tonight

630
00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:53,700
that summarized that feedback

631
00:58:53,700 --> 00:58:55,540
from the Glenn Allen Historical Society

632
00:58:55,540 --> 00:58:56,880
and Historic Preservation Commission.

633
00:58:58,100 --> 00:58:59,860
So it's my understanding,

634
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:01,300
our understanding of petitioners hoping

635
00:59:01,300 --> 00:59:03,480
to receive some feedback and insight

636
00:59:03,480 --> 00:59:05,200
on what the plan commission or the public

637
00:59:05,200 --> 00:59:06,840
may think of some of those suggestions.

638
00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:11,320
And then finally, the total developer donations.

639
00:59:13,380 --> 00:59:23,680
With that, the plan commission can approve, approve with conditions or deny all the zoning relief being requested.

640
00:59:24,920 --> 00:59:30,620
So I'm done with my part of the presentation. Did anyone have any questions?

641
00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:37,160
Does anybody from the plan commission have questions for Katie?

642
00:59:40,780 --> 00:59:42,280
Can I just ask a quick one?

643
00:59:44,000 --> 00:59:56,640
Do you know what the, do we know what the highest, because the elevation drops, do you know how far does it drop? How many feet from the highest lowest point?

644
01:00:00,500 --> 01:00:06,700
Let me double check. I know it's around eight feet, but let me check the existing conditions plan.

645
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:07,580
Okay.

646
01:00:11,270 --> 01:00:14,390
Does anybody else have a question for Katie while she's looking at that?

647
01:00:16,130 --> 01:00:21,910
Well, I just wanted to ask, you know, for the last six years and, you know, I think that

648
01:00:21,910 --> 01:00:26,690
lot's been used, right, the Disney lot that's been used for public parking.

649
01:00:27,870 --> 01:00:29,370
It's been allowed, right?

650
01:00:30,750 --> 01:00:41,350
allowed and used right yeah we as a village you know we have enough space that that's not really

651
01:00:41,350 --> 01:00:51,190
a concern right so um this was um we we entered into an arrangement with the property owner similar

652
01:00:51,190 --> 01:01:02,130
to what we did for the old pharmacy, Schmid's pharmacy, where two-hound red is located right now,

653
01:01:02,590 --> 01:01:07,950
and so we always try to take advantage of these opportunities when buildings are vacant to add

654
01:01:07,950 --> 01:01:15,650
additional parking above and beyond the parking that we have available. So this isn't generally

655
01:01:15,650 --> 01:01:20,870
considered part of the village's downtown parking inventory and we've really enjoyed and

656
01:01:20,870 --> 01:01:27,390
appreciated. They're allowing the public parking to take place while they're going

657
01:01:27,390 --> 01:01:33,250
through this approval process. But just to give you an update, the draft

658
01:01:33,250 --> 01:01:38,330
comprehensive plan, which our open house is coming up next week, and it will be

659
01:01:38,330 --> 01:01:44,270
coming before the plan commission for a public hearing, hopefully in for its

660
01:01:44,270 --> 01:01:49,890
first public hearing of three in the beginning of December, will have quite a

661
01:01:49,890 --> 01:01:54,810
information about parking available that will give a little bit of an inventory.

662
01:01:55,310 --> 01:02:02,730
But so to answer your question, Commissioner Rodman, I don't, this isn't something that we're actually

663
01:02:02,730 --> 01:02:06,930
losing. It's something we've had the benefit of using for a period of time.

664
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,900
Thank you. Thank you, Stacey. Sure.

665
01:02:14,900 --> 01:02:18,620
I think Katie's going to have an answer to the question. Is that correct?

666
01:02:18,620 --> 01:02:25,000
as we're seeing here? Yes. So this is the existing conditions plan. I just wanted to

667
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:35,680
pull it up. It looks like from 58 to 744, 45. So it's over a 10-foot drop, about 13-foot

668
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:42,000
drop from the northwest corner to the southwest corner. And that's just on the lot itself.

669
01:02:44,700 --> 01:02:52,020
because I know there was, we had talked a little bit, there was from the Pennsylvania to the Crescent,

670
01:02:52,060 --> 01:02:57,060
what's the drop there? Because it would be greater. Do you have that on this? And if you don't,

671
01:02:57,080 --> 01:02:59,200
then don't go look it up. But I just thought you might have that.

672
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:05,100
I know that they have, I think that's on.

673
01:03:05,100 --> 01:03:05,260
And

674
01:03:08,530 --> 01:03:19,550
as you're looking, Katie, you can confirm there's also currently, I believe, a retaining wall on the property line on the west side also, correct?

675
01:03:20,790 --> 01:03:24,450
Yes, and it is actually on board's property.

676
01:03:25,310 --> 01:03:30,490
Okay. Okay. But it's essentially on the property line.

677
01:03:31,030 --> 01:03:31,510
Correct.

678
01:03:32,030 --> 01:03:35,210
Correct. Okay. Yeah, I just wanted to be clear. Okay. Thank you.

679
01:03:38,320 --> 01:03:40,220
Any other questions for Katie?

680
01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:43,020
Katie, I have a quick question.

681
01:03:44,040 --> 01:03:44,220
Sure.

682
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:45,480
Two, actually.

683
01:03:45,820 --> 01:03:47,500
First, with regards to the retail space,

684
01:03:47,820 --> 01:03:52,840
can you give me a comparable store or England that could fit into the space?

685
01:03:54,080 --> 01:03:54,340
Sure.

686
01:03:54,780 --> 01:03:58,060
So the beer seller actually is close to that.

687
01:03:58,940 --> 01:04:01,080
And so is Marche.

688
01:04:01,940 --> 01:04:06,800
Marche actually is even, it's the interior.

689
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:13,800
is five the first floor is like 500 something square feet and then total is a thousand but

690
01:04:13,800 --> 01:04:21,720
that space is actually so it would fit there okay and then my other question the elevator overrun

691
01:04:21,720 --> 01:04:30,960
where in the building is that is it close to the like the edge of the middle it's in the middle

692
01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:36,120
of the building okay which would make it less obvious people on the street below correct

693
01:04:36,120 --> 01:04:38,780
Okay. Thank you. I

694
01:04:42,780 --> 01:04:55,320
wanted to note really quick the there's an elevation change from Pennsylvania Avenue to Crescent Boulevard, kind of from the northwest to the southeast. It's about seven 16 to 17 feet.

695
01:04:55,800 --> 01:05:01,940
Okay. Okay. Thank you. Thank you very much. Any other questions for I'll say staff at this point.

696
01:05:03,040 --> 01:05:08,800
from the plan commission and if not even Katie thank you very much I know that

697
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:12,760
was a lot of detail so thank you very much for your presentation and

698
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:16,680
so you're

699
01:05:16,680 --> 01:05:28,390
putting this back up because we're not okay and so I take it that now it's

700
01:05:28,390 --> 01:05:32,030
since there's no more questions for staff we can go on to the petitioners

701
01:05:32,030 --> 01:05:36,070
presentation so can we introduce the petitioners with your name and address

702
01:05:36,070 --> 01:05:37,650
and Barbara will swear you in.

703
01:05:39,430 --> 01:05:44,250
So, Chairman Locke, I have added Drew Mitchell, Chris Walsh,

704
01:05:44,830 --> 01:05:50,590
and Mike O'Connor to the screen to add them as panelists.

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01:05:51,030 --> 01:05:52,850
And I'm going to turn it over to them.

706
01:05:53,630 --> 01:05:56,690
I would assume Drew Mitchell is going to start and kick it off.

707
01:05:57,450 --> 01:06:02,350
And Drew, please note that before we go too far,

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01:06:02,530 --> 01:06:04,430
the three of you need to be sworn in.

709
01:06:04,430 --> 01:06:05,890
and so we should probably start with that.

710
01:06:06,410 --> 01:06:07,290
That'd be great.

711
01:06:07,450 --> 01:06:09,970
And actually, we've got Javier Milan,

712
01:06:10,570 --> 01:06:12,770
who's a consultant with KLOA,

713
01:06:13,210 --> 01:06:16,110
Trafficking Parking Consultant, who is also on.

714
01:06:16,410 --> 01:06:16,990
So, Javier-

715
01:06:16,990 --> 01:06:18,410
Okay, I can promote him.

716
01:06:18,790 --> 01:06:19,730
Okay, thank you.

717
01:06:20,110 --> 01:06:22,090
That's, promotions are easy here.

718
01:06:22,330 --> 01:06:22,650
Yeah.

719
01:06:23,870 --> 01:06:25,050
She's very generous.

720
01:06:26,030 --> 01:06:28,990
But the implication is that he also needs to be sworn in.

721
01:06:29,130 --> 01:06:32,150
So, Javier, you need to unmute and show yourself.

722
01:06:32,150 --> 01:06:35,350
All right, Barb, can you swear everybody in, please?

723
01:06:36,290 --> 01:06:37,510
Sure, shall we start with Mr. Mitchell?

724
01:06:39,310 --> 01:06:39,630
Sure.

725
01:06:40,630 --> 01:06:43,830
Actually, if you can all just state your name,

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01:06:44,350 --> 01:06:47,510
your place of business and your address for the record,

727
01:06:47,510 --> 01:06:50,350
then she can swear you all in as a group at the end.

728
01:06:50,830 --> 01:06:50,970
Okay.

729
01:06:51,730 --> 01:06:53,370
Good evening, I'm Drew Mitchell.

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01:06:53,590 --> 01:06:55,230
I'm a partner with Holiday Properties

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01:06:55,230 --> 01:06:59,330
located at 324 West Burlington Avenue in LaGrange, Illinois.

732
01:06:59,330 --> 01:07:03,250
Mike, I think Mike would be next.

733
01:07:03,730 --> 01:07:04,430
Mike, you're muted.

734
01:07:04,730 --> 01:07:06,030
Maybe Chris, you can go first.

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01:07:06,630 --> 01:07:08,910
Chris Walsh with Tandem Architecture,

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01:07:09,530 --> 01:07:13,470
1040 West Huron Street in Chicago, Suite 300.

737
01:07:14,710 --> 01:07:16,270
Hi, I'm Javier Milan.

738
01:07:16,730 --> 01:07:19,070
I'm a principal with KLWA Incorporated,

739
01:07:20,050 --> 01:07:22,930
9575 West Higgins Road in Rosemont.

740
01:07:24,770 --> 01:07:25,990
And Mike, you're still muted.

741
01:07:28,620 --> 01:07:29,160
There you go.

742
01:07:31,840 --> 01:07:35,640
Mike, we can't, we see your mouth moving but can't hear you.

743
01:07:39,180 --> 01:07:40,960
Do we have a phone number for him?

744
01:07:41,640 --> 01:07:42,800
Stacey, you're also muted.

745
01:07:47,190 --> 01:07:53,450
Mike, shake your head, yes, to the last four digits of your phone number, N4261.

746
01:07:56,400 --> 01:07:58,620
Yes, okay, I'm going to promote your phone.

747
01:07:59,740 --> 01:08:00,300
Make

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01:08:09,510 --> 01:08:11,130
sure that's correct, Stacey.

749
01:08:11,470 --> 01:08:13,050
I appreciate everybody's patience.

750
01:08:15,230 --> 01:08:16,390
We're all still learning.

751
01:08:17,230 --> 01:08:19,430
He's 398 sex, Stacey.

752
01:08:21,290 --> 01:08:24,950
Okay. I do not see his phone in here.

753
01:08:26,970 --> 01:08:26,970
So

754
01:08:29,500 --> 01:08:32,160
sure how to fix that.

755
01:08:33,860 --> 01:08:37,340
Well, Mike, you're not going to talk tonight. Congratulations.

756
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:41,120
Unless you can figure out how to unmute yourself.

757
01:08:41,660 --> 01:08:43,440
We got it. It's okay.

758
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:44,340
Okay.

759
01:08:44,340 --> 01:08:48,820
well roll with that and maybe you can still raise your hand and nod I don't

760
01:08:48,820 --> 01:08:55,260
know if that works but very good well before we you start let's let Barb

761
01:08:55,260 --> 01:09:01,540
swear you in thank you mr. Mitchell do you would you swear to tell the truth the

762
01:09:01,540 --> 01:09:08,880
whole truth and nothing but the truth I do mr. Walsh you swear to tell the

763
01:09:08,880 --> 01:09:15,820
truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth. I do. Mr. Milan, do you swear to

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01:09:15,820 --> 01:09:21,060
truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth? I do. And are we going to

765
01:09:21,060 --> 01:09:22,820
attempt to swear in Mr. O'Panner?

766
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:27,580
I think he's trying to call in based on

767
01:09:27,580 --> 01:09:32,620
what I'm seeing and his actions. So if he gets that done we can bring him in

768
01:09:32,620 --> 01:09:37,200
in the middle of the meeting then. Yes. All right well go ahead Mr. Mitchell

769
01:09:37,200 --> 01:09:38,700
to why don't we go ahead and get started.

770
01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:39,420
Thank you.

771
01:09:40,200 --> 01:09:42,360
Thank you, Chair Burris and Locke.

772
01:09:42,360 --> 01:09:45,500
I wanna start by thanking everybody for the opportunity

773
01:09:45,820 --> 01:09:48,340
to come in for the pre-application meeting in May.

774
01:09:48,500 --> 01:09:50,020
Not all communities do that.

775
01:09:50,700 --> 01:09:52,980
We found it to be tremendously helpful

776
01:09:52,980 --> 01:09:55,160
as an opportunity to get some early feedback.

777
01:09:55,800 --> 01:09:58,600
And in some cases, free feedback,

778
01:09:59,640 --> 01:10:01,600
not everything, all the comments

779
01:10:01,600 --> 01:10:04,440
that we received were necessarily positive,

780
01:10:04,440 --> 01:10:15,860
But, but it doesn't mean that they weren't important. So I think, you know, I would like to thank the planning staff at Glen Ellen, they've worked really, really hard.

781
01:10:16,120 --> 01:10:31,460
There was a 400 page package on this Katie, you did a really good job, probably making my, what I need to say this evening a little bit shorter but there have been a variety of different important modifications to this site.

782
01:10:31,460 --> 01:10:34,980
I think we're left with the dramatically improved product.

783
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:39,520
I think we definitely have worked hard to address

784
01:10:39,520 --> 01:10:43,840
this concept of 360 degree architecture

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01:10:44,320 --> 01:10:45,240
around the building.

786
01:10:46,200 --> 01:10:47,760
Another thing that's happened is,

787
01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:50,420
we've had an opportunity to really engage

788
01:10:50,420 --> 01:10:52,240
with some of the preservation folks.

789
01:10:52,820 --> 01:10:57,220
And when we build a project like this in a community,

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01:10:58,140 --> 01:11:01,900
we're never trying to take it over.

791
01:11:02,060 --> 01:11:04,280
We wanted to fit within the community.

792
01:11:04,440 --> 01:11:07,880
We hope it's transformative from an economic standpoint

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01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:10,320
and introduces additional disposable income.

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01:11:10,680 --> 01:11:13,080
But we also wanted to be elegant

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and fit within the fabric.

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01:11:15,580 --> 01:11:18,640
So to that end, we've really tried to incorporate

797
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,480
some ideas and pay homage to the history

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01:11:21,480 --> 01:11:22,580
of this important site.

799
01:11:23,100 --> 01:11:25,920
As Katie mentioned, the site has been vacant for six years.

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01:11:25,920 --> 01:11:28,180
There's, it is not an easy sight to develop.

801
01:11:28,360 --> 01:11:31,500
There's topography challenges, you know,

802
01:11:31,780 --> 01:11:34,080
there's, it's expensive by the way.

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01:11:34,420 --> 01:11:37,140
And so we've been working really hard.

804
01:11:37,380 --> 01:11:39,780
And while we're eager for your feedback,

805
01:11:39,940 --> 01:11:43,040
I hope that you're pleased with what you're seeing

806
01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:44,280
so far this evening.

807
01:11:45,940 --> 01:11:48,680
As I mentioned, our team, we've got Mike O'Connor

808
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:51,180
with us, he and I work very closely together

809
01:11:51,820 --> 01:11:54,280
on the development side, putting these projects together.

810
01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:56,660
Chris Walsh is with Tandem Architecture,

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01:11:57,500 --> 01:11:59,880
one of my favorite architecture groups in Chicago.

812
01:12:00,240 --> 01:12:02,120
They're terrific at this type of product

813
01:12:02,120 --> 01:12:06,880
and tasteful suburban downtown transit area and development.

814
01:12:07,380 --> 01:12:09,980
And then we've got Javier Milan with KLOA.

815
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:11,940
And his role is really critical

816
01:12:11,940 --> 01:12:14,240
because having the right amount of parking

817
01:12:14,240 --> 01:12:17,400
in a project like this is absolutely paramount.

818
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:22,180
So I think with that, I'm going to be weighing in

819
01:12:22,180 --> 01:12:27,320
is Chris is giving the presentation on certain important topics but at this

820
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:32,940
point in time if it works the way I hope it does Chris will be able to share his

821
01:12:32,940 --> 01:12:37,680
screen and put up a presentation from from our team.

822
01:12:39,820 --> 01:12:42,020
Everyone see that? Yes.

823
01:12:42,640 --> 01:12:43,040
Okay.

824
01:12:47,400 --> 01:12:51,280
Alright, so Drew, if you're all done, I will start in.

825
01:12:53,860 --> 01:12:58,380
I will have to tailor my talking as well.

826
01:12:58,740 --> 01:13:08,220
So I don't want to go over a lot of things that Katie already went over, but you know, we'll do our best to cover what we have there are a few things we do want to make sure we point out.

827
01:13:08,220 --> 01:13:14,240
Because like Drew said, we have been working with staff and with different people in the

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01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:16,040
village to get to this point.

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01:13:16,340 --> 01:13:20,160
So this has definitely been a team effort to get here.

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01:13:20,300 --> 01:13:25,620
Like Drew said, it's not always the easiest to hear certain comments, but I think we've

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01:13:25,620 --> 01:13:26,400
taken them to heart.

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01:13:26,740 --> 01:13:32,920
And I completely think we've got a great product here, a lot better than what we

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01:13:32,920 --> 01:13:35,960
started with, and hopefully you'll feel the same way.

834
01:13:35,960 --> 01:13:46,340
Okay, so the building square footage is about 145,000 square feet, about 80,000 square feet of leasable.

835
01:13:47,020 --> 01:13:55,860
As Katie mentioned, it's 86 units, about almost 1500 square feet of retail and 104 parking spaces.

836
01:13:57,300 --> 01:14:02,640
Just to give you a quick kind of overall view of you can see how the building functions.

837
01:14:03,520 --> 01:14:05,620
Yellow is the corridor down the middle.

838
01:14:07,380 --> 01:14:09,640
Different colors are different unit sizes.

839
01:14:10,300 --> 01:14:16,640
A lot of the larger units are along the south facing street facing Crescent.

840
01:14:17,560 --> 01:14:22,820
And this gives you a little better idea of how we shifted the building back and

841
01:14:23,660 --> 01:14:33,360
really created a special space just above the sidewalk for all of the tenants at the second floor, which get a 10 foot wide veranda that's the width of their unit.

842
01:14:34,100 --> 01:14:35,940
There aren't many places like that.

843
01:14:36,900 --> 01:14:47,680
Chris, this is Stacy. I'm just wondering if you're able to pop that into some sort of presentation mode to make it larger on the screen for everybody who's looking.

844
01:14:48,080 --> 01:14:48,900
Is it too small.

845
01:14:49,480 --> 01:14:57,440
Yeah, it's a little too small. I didn't know if you could pop into full screen presentation mode with the slides. If not, if you could zoom in as appropriate.

846
01:14:58,140 --> 01:14:59,840
Maybe I'll do Chris go to the.

847
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:09,060
You, at the top, in your, up, what, there, and you may have, just above the save disc.

848
01:15:11,360 --> 01:15:13,280
There, there. Yeah, I know.

849
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:15,240
There's an offer to do a better.

850
01:15:15,420 --> 01:15:15,980
A little better.

851
01:15:18,670 --> 01:15:24,890
Okay, just, just keep in mind that it's really small on people's screens. So you just might need to zoom in as you're pointing.

852
01:15:25,350 --> 01:15:25,750
Okay, no problem.

853
01:15:27,050 --> 01:15:33,330
Chris, while you're zooming in, I just want to comment quickly on the way that we approach

854
01:15:33,330 --> 01:15:38,190
unit mixes and how we really try to define the different units in the building.

855
01:15:39,110 --> 01:15:44,410
So this isn't just two or three different unit types.

856
01:15:44,770 --> 01:15:50,990
We really study the market and when we do that, we hire, we have a market study

857
01:15:50,990 --> 01:15:57,650
consultant. We really like to work with Tracy Cross and associates, but they help us figure out

858
01:15:57,650 --> 01:16:02,910
exactly who the demographic is of who's going to be living here. And so we've actually got 12

859
01:16:02,910 --> 01:16:10,070
different unit types in this building, and there's various step-ups as you kind of work from a studio

860
01:16:10,070 --> 01:16:15,650
to a two bedroom plus den. And so one of the things that this is designed to do is make this

861
01:16:15,650 --> 01:16:18,790
building is attractive to as wide of a variety of potential

862
01:16:18,790 --> 01:16:23,450
people as possible. And so, you know, Katie mentioned, for

863
01:16:23,450 --> 01:16:27,890
example, starting rents at 1450 a month, which would qualify as

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01:16:27,890 --> 01:16:31,110
workforce housing along with the significant proportion of the

865
01:16:31,110 --> 01:16:34,170
units in the building, all the way up to our largest two

866
01:16:34,170 --> 01:16:40,470
bedroom, two bath plus 10. And so it's really, you know,

867
01:16:40,470 --> 01:16:47,190
designed to conform with not just the surrounding character of buildings but

868
01:16:47,190 --> 01:16:51,430
promote different price points to address financial needs of seniors, young

869
01:16:51,430 --> 01:16:55,430
professionals, new families, etc. So that's pulled from one of the comments

870
01:16:55,430 --> 01:16:59,230
that we received from the League of Women Voters. But we take that very

871
01:16:59,230 --> 01:17:05,150
seriously of providing a wide variety of unit types in the building. And so

872
01:17:05,150 --> 01:17:09,750
each of the units are stacked as you work up the building. So it does, aside

873
01:17:09,750 --> 01:17:14,510
from the second floor which which features a terrace they're they're virtually identical as you move

874
01:17:14,510 --> 01:17:21,950
vertically in the building yeah so just like I was saying there is a terrace along the south side

875
01:17:21,950 --> 01:17:31,510
that's 10 foot deep we've placed the the club the club area is on the north corner or I'm sorry

876
01:17:31,510 --> 01:17:38,910
the the southeast corner and the fitness would be on the northeast corner and these came through

877
01:17:38,910 --> 01:17:44,610
comments that the village really wanted to enliven the street as much as possible so we've kept as

878
01:17:44,610 --> 01:17:50,290
much of the public spaces as we could close to the street as you'll see in the elevations.

879
01:17:51,430 --> 01:17:57,070
What we tried to do is really get spaces where people are going to be outside having a drink,

880
01:17:57,270 --> 01:18:02,910
sitting by a fire, talking, and it really enlivens the street is what we found on other projects.

881
01:18:02,910 --> 01:18:09,070
Yeah, the idea is to to put busier areas of the building along the more prominent corners

882
01:18:09,070 --> 01:18:14,670
and we as we're to activate but we're trying to activate that pedestrian level so it feels

883
01:18:14,670 --> 01:18:20,730
lively and it feels vibrant and then we carry that up onto the second floor in terms of

884
01:18:20,730 --> 01:18:22,230
the fitness in the club room area.

885
01:18:22,490 --> 01:18:28,130
So it's it's just part of the way that we approach these types of projects.

886
01:18:30,660 --> 01:18:38,820
So, another point that we, you know, was given to us by some comments was to bring the door

887
01:18:38,820 --> 01:18:44,140
to the corner of the building to really kind of bring people all the way down to the corner.

888
01:18:44,260 --> 01:18:46,360
We used to have it up a little bit farther on Glenwood.

889
01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:49,480
There really was no cause for people to kind of walk down the street.

890
01:18:50,380 --> 01:18:56,420
So we turn the, we click the corner into the lobby and I think we're going to have

891
01:18:56,420 --> 01:19:04,020
really nice dramatic lobby that steps up as you walk in. And then you can go back towards

892
01:19:04,020 --> 01:19:09,600
the elevators, the business center, meeting rooms, and bicycle rooms. And having the retail

893
01:19:09,600 --> 01:19:13,800
also facing Glenwood was something that we went back and forth on, and this ultimately

894
01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:21,340
we felt was the better place for it. What we did do, and I think Katie's tried to

895
01:19:21,340 --> 01:19:27,300
show this, but on Glenwood, what we actually did instead of having that step back that

896
01:19:27,300 --> 01:19:33,840
she talked about up at 45 feet, three step back 15 feet, we actually thought it was a

897
01:19:33,840 --> 01:19:39,080
better idea just to push the whole building back five feet, give the sidewalk back to

898
01:19:39,080 --> 01:19:39,940
the village.

899
01:19:40,660 --> 01:19:46,680
And so we have really a much wider sidewalk about 11 feet or so instead of just a five

900
01:19:46,680 --> 01:19:47,300
foot sidewalk.

901
01:19:47,300 --> 01:19:55,440
So it creates a nice plaza area at the southeast corner with the 45 degree angle on on the doors.

902
01:19:55,760 --> 01:20:05,140
So, you know, things like pedestrian sense of safety and, you know, just the general feel from the street is important.

903
01:20:05,700 --> 01:20:10,200
So Chris, may I talk briefly about the amenities and sure for there.

904
01:20:10,200 --> 01:20:13,620
So the experience that we're trying to deliver

905
01:20:13,620 --> 01:20:17,140
in a project like this is a hotel style lobby,

906
01:20:17,240 --> 01:20:20,040
almost a concierge sort of feel with the leasing office.

907
01:20:20,480 --> 01:20:23,660
We have automated package notification

908
01:20:23,660 --> 01:20:25,320
in the building, for example.

909
01:20:25,800 --> 01:20:27,840
We started incorporating a business center.

910
01:20:28,320 --> 01:20:30,680
Part of that is a lot more people are working from home.

911
01:20:31,080 --> 01:20:32,700
So when we first met with you in May,

912
01:20:32,780 --> 01:20:35,200
it was my first Zoom public hearing ever.

913
01:20:35,840 --> 01:20:39,100
And we all thought or were hoping we wouldn't,

914
01:20:39,100 --> 01:20:40,280
It would be done.

915
01:20:40,480 --> 01:20:43,760
But as this has become more part of our world,

916
01:20:44,060 --> 01:20:48,160
we've been pivoting and trying to make modifications

917
01:20:48,160 --> 01:20:50,660
and accommodations due to changing lifestyle.

918
01:20:51,460 --> 01:20:53,540
So another is just the craft room.

919
01:20:53,720 --> 01:20:56,240
And the concept here is that you've got a lot

920
01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:58,480
of empty nesters that'll be living in the building

921
01:20:58,480 --> 01:21:01,700
who may have a hobby or maybe their grandson wants

922
01:21:01,700 --> 01:21:03,560
to come and make a Pinewood Derby car.

923
01:21:03,820 --> 01:21:05,700
They've moved, they've downsized and moved out

924
01:21:05,700 --> 01:21:07,300
of a big house with all their tools.

925
01:21:07,300 --> 01:21:14,320
So this is a place where you can paint or work on a project and we have tools that are in the building and there's a meeting room

926
01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:19,580
So if you want to hold a small, you know six person gathering for a business meeting

927
01:21:19,580 --> 01:21:21,460
You're able to do that in the building

928
01:21:21,460 --> 01:21:29,340
Another thing that we've experienced in these transit-oriented developments is just a really high utilization of bicycles by our residents

929
01:21:29,340 --> 01:21:30,820
So we incorporate

930
01:21:30,820 --> 01:21:36,180
bicycle tools that are that are accessible to anybody tire inflation you

931
01:21:36,180 --> 01:21:41,540
can safely secure your bike in the bicycle studio and it's just it's

932
01:21:41,540 --> 01:21:49,180
something that we do so thank you Chris sure so just a few of the other things

933
01:21:49,180 --> 01:21:53,800
that we've incorporated we've we did create an alley towards the back of

934
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:57,240
the building we felt this is important to really get those moving

935
01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:04,340
trucks off of the alley giving people somewhere where they could just park, unload, move into the

936
01:22:04,340 --> 01:22:10,860
unit. Also there is a small garbage area for the retail, so the garbage truck for that can

937
01:22:10,860 --> 01:22:19,120
actually pull in there. A dog run back here, which really becomes private as Katie was saying,

938
01:22:19,460 --> 01:22:25,200
this retaining wall, if you've been noted the site on the north side, climbs up to about 11

939
01:22:25,200 --> 01:22:31,200
feet so you know barking dogs and that are actually going to be below grade to

940
01:22:31,200 --> 01:22:35,660
the neighbor here and at the same time we've put the generator the

941
01:22:35,660 --> 01:22:41,960
transformers and everything tucked behind the dog area so again you know

942
01:22:41,960 --> 01:22:47,580
these normally ugly things that everyone sees at grade are going to be

943
01:22:47,580 --> 01:22:52,180
below grade below eyesight line the other thing I'll point out is the

944
01:22:52,180 --> 01:22:58,500
trash. This is usually a question, but Drew, maybe you want to talk about how you handle

945
01:22:58,500 --> 01:23:04,220
the trash removal? Yeah, so a lot of times what developers do is they'll kind of cheat

946
01:23:04,220 --> 01:23:09,700
in this area. So for example, you have a single trash shoot for trash, but they really forget

947
01:23:09,700 --> 01:23:15,160
about recycling or accommodating dual trash shoots for recycling and for trash. There

948
01:23:15,160 --> 01:23:19,620
are compactors in this space, which allows us to more efficiently work with the refuse.

949
01:23:19,620 --> 01:23:24,480
and then it's, believe it or not, very organized in terms of how that's removed

950
01:23:24,480 --> 01:23:29,380
from the building. We work with a local waste management group and they'll come

951
01:23:29,380 --> 01:23:33,740
in. It's typically at the beginning of the project once a week, it usually works

952
01:23:33,740 --> 01:23:37,620
its way up to twice a week and we try to remove that trash, you know, between

953
01:23:37,620 --> 01:23:42,480
9 and 11 in the morning on like a, you know, a Monday and a Thursday, so

954
01:23:42,480 --> 01:23:48,360
that we're not interrupting any morning commute. But you can't forget

955
01:23:48,360 --> 01:23:55,540
about trash management it happens a lot and then it's too late to fix it. So we are not going to make

956
01:23:55,540 --> 01:24:00,920
we aren't making that mistake and I think it's properly provisioned. Chris is it you know another

957
01:24:00,920 --> 01:24:06,500
really important thing to talk about is parking and how we approach parking and quantify our need

958
01:24:06,500 --> 01:24:12,480
there. Is this a good time to talk about that or should I return to that? Give me one second

959
01:24:12,480 --> 01:24:18,500
let me just point out a couple things. So the street I just want to point out on Crescent,

960
01:24:18,880 --> 01:24:25,480
what we're doing, we've created a drop-off area. This was another comment through working with

961
01:24:25,480 --> 01:24:31,280
the review process. We thought that was great. It's not meant for somebody to park their car

962
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:36,420
and leave it there for an hour or two. This is meant for the dry cleaner, the pizza person,

963
01:24:36,420 --> 01:24:42,300
someone to jump out, you know, let someone off and then keep driving. This

964
01:24:42,300 --> 01:24:48,760
sidewalk actually was also widened or will be. Right now what's happening, if

965
01:24:48,760 --> 01:24:54,600
you see this little indent at the drop-off now, this is actually happening

966
01:24:54,600 --> 01:24:59,820
all the way down Crescent currently. So the sidewalk right now is only about

967
01:24:59,820 --> 01:25:04,840
five feet from the lot line to those indents. What Holiday would do is

968
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:10,620
actually give that sidewalk back to the village and plant trees along that

969
01:25:10,620 --> 01:25:20,180
street line. And then before I let you go, what we have is two entrances to the

970
01:25:20,180 --> 01:25:24,420
building. We've taken advantage of the site. There is about a six-foot slope

971
01:25:24,420 --> 01:25:29,540
from the front door all the way to the west side just along Crescent and we've

972
01:25:29,540 --> 01:25:32,780
taking advantage of that by having two separate parking levels.

973
01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:38,200
So you'd enter one on the west side and one on the east side.

974
01:25:38,920 --> 01:25:43,520
And we did have to, or one of the requests

975
01:25:43,520 --> 01:25:47,080
was to recess the garage doors, which we have done.

976
01:25:47,360 --> 01:25:49,560
I'll let Drew talk about parking.

977
01:25:50,300 --> 01:25:51,280
Thank you, Chris.

978
01:25:51,900 --> 01:25:55,000
So parking's a huge deal on a building like this,

979
01:25:55,100 --> 01:25:58,520
how it's managed, trends, what we're seeing in the world.

980
01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:04,320
here's the worst thing that can happen for a building like this. You don't, you build it and you

981
01:26:04,320 --> 01:26:09,280
don't have enough parking. And the reason why is because these things are actually really fragile.

982
01:26:09,560 --> 01:26:14,940
They're hard to work economically, particularly at the beginning of a project. And if you don't

983
01:26:14,940 --> 01:26:20,260
have enough parking, what happens? You can't lease your last two or three or six or eight

984
01:26:20,260 --> 01:26:30,380
units and it becomes, it's not viable essentially. So we paid very, very close attention to parking

985
01:26:30,380 --> 01:26:36,280
needs. They don't always actually match up perfectly to ordinances and a lot of times ordinances are

986
01:26:36,280 --> 01:26:42,060
written particularly in whistle stop suburban Chicago communities to address the whole community

987
01:26:42,060 --> 01:26:46,520
and not necessarily a development that is for example right next to a train station.

988
01:26:46,520 --> 01:26:50,120
So here's what we've learned and what we know.

989
01:26:51,300 --> 01:26:53,520
We typically think about it this way.

990
01:26:53,780 --> 01:26:59,040
Between a studio and a two-bedroom, we need about one parking spot per unit.

991
01:26:59,220 --> 01:27:03,520
About a third of our units have no parking, about a third of our units have one car,

992
01:27:03,720 --> 01:27:06,280
and about a third of our units require two cars.

993
01:27:06,800 --> 01:27:09,060
And so when you average that out, it's one per unit.

994
01:27:10,780 --> 01:27:19,000
However, that doesn't give us enough comfort between what we believe our need is and, you know, breathing room, if you will.

995
01:27:19,300 --> 01:27:28,720
So we're proposing 1.2 to 1 parking ratio here. One of the things that we can do is try to limit or mitigate demand for parking.

996
01:27:28,920 --> 01:27:36,400
And I'll give you an example. I'm an empty nester. I'm downsizing. I don't, you know, want to take care of the big home anymore.

997
01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:40,280
I've got two cars and I would like to live in this building.

998
01:27:40,580 --> 01:27:43,220
We're going to try to encourage you to have one vehicle.

999
01:27:43,600 --> 01:27:47,360
And the way that we do that is by offering a concept called Envoy.

1000
01:27:47,480 --> 01:27:49,140
And I believe I shared that with you in May,

1001
01:27:49,200 --> 01:27:53,240
but for people who haven't heard us discuss this, I'll describe it briefly,

1002
01:27:53,320 --> 01:27:55,640
but it's an electric vehicle car sharing program.

1003
01:27:56,060 --> 01:28:00,100
And so anybody in the building can utilize this vehicle at any point in time.

1004
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:01,440
You can check it out.

1005
01:28:01,600 --> 01:28:03,260
You can reserve it for a week out.

1006
01:28:03,260 --> 01:28:06,920
I think it's like eight bucks an hour or $30 a day.

1007
01:28:07,140 --> 01:28:09,860
But it's designed to encourage people to ditch their car

1008
01:28:10,290 --> 01:28:12,060
and also give them the flexibility

1009
01:28:12,060 --> 01:28:14,920
should they want to eliminate the need for a second vehicle.

1010
01:28:15,080 --> 01:28:17,660
Now they have a reliable backup plan

1011
01:28:18,110 --> 01:28:19,600
if dad's using the car

1012
01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:23,320
and mom wants to go run errands or something.

1013
01:28:23,640 --> 01:28:25,540
So we've done this at other projects.

1014
01:28:25,680 --> 01:28:28,160
It's been very successful at our downers growth project,

1015
01:28:28,160 --> 01:28:31,720
which by the way is a 1.2 to one parking ratio

1016
01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:34,660
and has been a healthy amount of parking

1017
01:28:34,660 --> 01:28:39,120
for similarly sized project 89 units versus 86

1018
01:28:40,000 --> 01:28:41,740
as well as similar unit mix.

1019
01:28:42,460 --> 01:28:45,580
So while I realized that it would appear

1020
01:28:45,580 --> 01:28:50,180
that there's significant reduction in parking need,

1021
01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:52,680
I think it's logical just due to its location

1022
01:28:53,300 --> 01:28:54,860
as a transitory and development

1023
01:28:54,860 --> 01:28:56,980
and also our experience in this space

1024
01:28:56,980 --> 01:28:59,740
and our desire to not really goof up a development

1025
01:28:59,740 --> 01:29:02,000
by having insufficient parking.

1026
01:29:02,600 --> 01:29:04,960
I'm going to invite Javier briefly

1027
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:07,900
to, if you'd like to add anything to that, Javier,

1028
01:29:08,000 --> 01:29:09,880
I know you're going to tell us, you know,

1029
01:29:09,940 --> 01:29:13,800
what parking utilization is within proximity

1030
01:29:13,800 --> 01:29:16,120
of train stations that could be helpful.

1031
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:18,200
Let, do you like to add anything?

1032
01:29:18,920 --> 01:29:21,060
Yes, you cover a lot of the issues,

1033
01:29:21,060 --> 01:29:24,340
but as Drew mentioned, the parking ratio

1034
01:29:24,340 --> 01:29:26,580
being provided at 1.2 spaces per unit.

1035
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:33,340
It is a TOD development, meaning a transit-oriented development, and parking demand or parking

1036
01:29:33,340 --> 01:29:39,600
requirements of TOD developments are much lower than parking demand of developments not located

1037
01:29:39,600 --> 01:29:46,280
within close proximity to public transportation. This has been proven in many cases, and there's

1038
01:29:46,280 --> 01:29:50,820
a study prepared by the Federal Transit Administration and the Transportation Research Board

1039
01:29:50,820 --> 01:29:56,500
that indicated that TOD residents are almost twice as likely to not own a car

1040
01:29:56,500 --> 01:29:59,880
and own half the number of cars of other households.

1041
01:30:01,100 --> 01:30:11,540
Besides getting all that data and looking at it, we decided to look into three different data providers. The first one would be the census data.

1042
01:30:12,260 --> 01:30:24,720
What does the Glenn-Ellen census data show? The auto ownership of owned homes in Glenn-Ellen within a quarter mile of the Glenn-Ellen train station is 1.87 vehicles per owned household.

1043
01:30:25,340 --> 01:30:32,440
rental units within a quarter mile of the train station in Glen Elling, it's 0.95 automobiles per unit.

1044
01:30:33,300 --> 01:30:41,540
And then approximately 58% of the households within a quarter mile of the train station in Glen Elling have one or no vehicles at all.

1045
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:48,000
Besides the census data, we also look at ITE, which stands for the Institute of Transportation Engineers,

1046
01:30:48,780 --> 01:30:51,040
and we looked at their parking generation manual.

1047
01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:55,760
It's a compilation of numerous surveys of different land uses to see what would be the

1048
01:30:55,760 --> 01:31:01,860
actual parking demand of this development. Based on all of those surveys, IT indicates

1049
01:31:01,860 --> 01:31:07,040
that the parking demand for this development would be 74 parked vehicles on a weekday

1050
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:13,960
and 99 vehicles on a Saturday. Then lastly, we looked at what is the trend or what is

1051
01:31:13,960 --> 01:31:19,420
happening in the area. We have done numerous surveys and numerous studies of apartment

1052
01:31:19,420 --> 01:31:26,040
developments within the Chicago land area. Many saw works in the Chicago land area and the proposed

1053
01:31:26,040 --> 01:31:32,360
number of parking spaces of 1.2 is consistent with what has been approved in all of these

1054
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:37,480
developments in the Chicago land area which ranges between 1.2 and 1.25 spaces per unit.

1055
01:31:38,060 --> 01:31:43,060
For all of those reasons that I mentioned above, we believe the number of parking spaces will be

1056
01:31:43,060 --> 01:31:46,200
adequate to accommodate the parking demand of these developments.

1057
01:31:46,200 --> 01:31:58,760
Thank you, Javier. One other thing that we typically do too is we provide electric vehicle charging stations. We'd be crazy to not realize that there is a trend towards more electric vehicles.

1058
01:31:59,240 --> 01:32:09,060
We typically include, there's several there up front. We'd like to locate the pedestal chargers to be able to maximize the number of spaces that they can reach.

1059
01:32:09,060 --> 01:32:13,080
And then we often place conduit or sleeves

1060
01:32:13,080 --> 01:32:17,060
so that we can add additional electric vehicle stations

1061
01:32:17,060 --> 01:32:19,480
as behavior and trends change over time.

1062
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:25,920
So I think that's probably it.

1063
01:32:26,180 --> 01:32:29,660
I don't know that we need to address traffic necessarily here

1064
01:32:29,660 --> 01:32:32,340
but I guess what I would say is there's a misconception

1065
01:32:32,620 --> 01:32:33,780
on these types of buildings

1066
01:32:33,780 --> 01:32:35,420
that they generate a ton of traffic.

1067
01:32:35,800 --> 01:32:36,840
They really don't.

1068
01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:41,980
First of all, a lot of times they're walking, you know, they're walking to the Einstein bagels or

1069
01:32:41,980 --> 01:32:48,160
wherever, and very often their cars won't even move for several days. But when you compare it to

1070
01:32:48,160 --> 01:32:54,120
the grocery store that was there previously or traffic generation is probably minuscule,

1071
01:32:54,440 --> 01:32:59,880
I would guess Javier can speak to that with more data, but I don't know that it's necessary

1072
01:32:59,880 --> 01:33:05,080
unless we have any questions on it. So Chris, at this point in time, I'll hand it back to you.

1073
01:33:05,080 --> 01:33:11,500
So I would love an opportunity to talk briefly when you get to the second floor about the fitness and what we're doing there.

1074
01:33:11,920 --> 01:33:24,100
Okay. Yeah, there's not much to talk about on the lower level, but this is obviously lower level. We would have the pet spot down there as well.

1075
01:33:24,200 --> 01:33:29,620
But this would be the other half of the parking spaces in the basement.

1076
01:33:29,620 --> 01:33:29,820
but

1077
01:33:33,060 --> 01:33:35,640
for, I'm sorry, these are not colored,

1078
01:33:36,680 --> 01:33:42,120
but the, just quickly on the unit rundown,

1079
01:33:42,780 --> 01:33:44,860
the 20 units on the second floor

1080
01:33:45,380 --> 01:33:48,540
and 22 units per floor above that

1081
01:33:48,920 --> 01:33:50,520
gets us to our 86 units.

1082
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:53,040
Let me zoom in here, Drew, for you.

1083
01:33:53,920 --> 01:33:57,280
So on the east side of the building, as we mentioned,

1084
01:33:57,960 --> 01:33:59,780
club room and fitness,

1085
01:34:00,340 --> 01:34:02,220
and you can see the 10-foot balconies

1086
01:34:02,220 --> 01:34:04,720
that run along the north and the south sides.

1087
01:34:06,620 --> 01:34:12,940
So these are, again, we're trying to activate this prominent corner here by creating spaces

1088
01:34:12,940 --> 01:34:18,680
that people will use, the fitness, for example, you can imagine people running on a treadmill.

1089
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:22,980
There is an access to the outdoors off of the fitness area.

1090
01:34:23,380 --> 01:34:25,380
The club room is going to be a pretty cool space.

1091
01:34:25,380 --> 01:34:31,420
You can have it a baby shower there or a small event that's hopefully some day again

1092
01:34:31,980 --> 01:34:39,560
We intend to incorporate a fire feature on the balcony outside and it's it's just an extension

1093
01:34:39,560 --> 01:34:41,260
I suppose of your living room

1094
01:34:41,860 --> 01:34:47,700
But it will be a very very nice amenity for the residents that live here another thing that I'll point out

1095
01:34:47,700 --> 01:34:49,740
Just while you've got this up

1096
01:34:49,740 --> 01:34:51,900
Chris with the various units

1097
01:34:51,900 --> 01:34:55,480
there are certain things that we insist on incorporating.

1098
01:34:56,240 --> 01:34:58,840
And so Chris really gets it at this point,

1099
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:01,340
but we want access to the outdoors for every unit.

1100
01:35:01,420 --> 01:35:03,680
And even now in COVID more than ever.

1101
01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:07,520
So, you know, that's either a balcony or a terrace,

1102
01:35:08,320 --> 01:35:10,100
but you've got to have a way

1103
01:35:10,100 --> 01:35:12,980
to have access to the outdoors from your unit.

1104
01:35:13,660 --> 01:35:16,640
Another thing is, you know, we work very hard

1105
01:35:16,640 --> 01:35:19,680
to incorporate walking closets in each of the units.

1106
01:35:19,680 --> 01:35:25,660
they all have in-unit washer, dryer, they're very well-appointed with hard surface counters,

1107
01:35:26,320 --> 01:35:35,640
eyed loss cabinetry we often use, LED light fixtures, smart thermostats. We don't do this just

1108
01:35:35,640 --> 01:35:42,520
because we like to, I think it helps us attract people to the building, but it's also kind of

1109
01:35:42,520 --> 01:35:47,500
the right thing to do and you know we work pretty closely with ComEd's energy efficiency

1110
01:35:47,500 --> 01:35:51,760
program to make sure that we're making smart energy decisions and occupancy

1111
01:35:51,760 --> 01:35:56,320
sensors in the corridor, the garage lighting for example drops to four from

1112
01:35:56,320 --> 01:36:00,940
100 to 40 percent when it doesn't sense anybody in there for a while. So those

1113
01:36:00,940 --> 01:36:05,580
are energy efficient appliances and probably putting you all to sleep with

1114
01:36:05,580 --> 01:36:12,260
all of this but we really do try to dial this in and get it right and using

1115
01:36:12,260 --> 01:36:17,540
really, you know, design or lighting fixtures and things like that. So, Chris, do you think

1116
01:36:17,540 --> 01:36:23,700
I missed anything on the unit? The only thing I would say is, so Holiday has asked that we

1117
01:36:23,700 --> 01:36:30,500
incorporate small office areas in each of the units as well. So, even the one bedrooms would get

1118
01:36:31,260 --> 01:36:36,080
a private office, we just felt that was something that everybody needs now. And

1119
01:36:36,080 --> 01:36:40,100
we don't think that's going to change. It's a place to have your Zoom calls,

1120
01:36:40,100 --> 01:36:43,080
You know, yeah, zoom, zoom room.

1121
01:36:44,960 --> 01:36:45,600
So

1122
01:36:47,800 --> 01:36:49,000
I wouldn't get it.

1123
01:36:49,640 --> 01:36:55,340
They're thoughtfully arranged units and, you know, the style of living has

1124
01:36:55,340 --> 01:36:59,180
changed dramatically even from apartments built just 20 years ago where there was

1125
01:36:59,180 --> 01:37:03,240
dedicated dining room space that's really moved away from that.

1126
01:37:03,240 --> 01:37:11,580
And so, I guess that's all I have to say, Chris, at least for now on the inside of the unit, so try to pick up.

1127
01:37:12,040 --> 01:37:21,940
All right, so, so just real quick on the colored landscape plan just give you a little better idea of the green space around the building.

1128
01:37:22,900 --> 01:37:31,920
There is about a 17 foot drop from the southeast corner to the northwest corner. So that came up before but.

1129
01:37:31,920 --> 01:37:39,020
So there is a significant hill that we've chosen to put the green scape around

1130
01:37:39,020 --> 01:37:42,360
along the back and along the west side of the building.

1131
01:37:44,020 --> 01:37:49,720
As we mentioned, there's a drop where this whole back alley really is a sunken area.

1132
01:37:50,140 --> 01:37:54,340
So it's shielded visually from the people to the north.

1133
01:37:55,260 --> 01:37:59,340
And then the addition of trees around the whole site.

1134
01:38:00,300 --> 01:38:08,960
And we're going to save the light poles that are there and reinstall all the light poles. Add some benches and various other things.

1135
01:38:10,120 --> 01:38:23,320
So let me get to the architecture. So from the last time we've gotten a lot of feedback on paying attention to what do you feel when you're walking up and down the street.

1136
01:38:23,320 --> 01:38:29,260
And we've redesigned the entire south portion.

1137
01:38:30,040 --> 01:38:35,000
We feel pushing the building back that 10 feet really opened up the space.

1138
01:38:35,600 --> 01:38:40,780
We've got a few 3D images from a consultant that we'll get to as well.

1139
01:38:40,820 --> 01:38:41,880
And you can feel it a little better.

1140
01:38:42,260 --> 01:38:47,360
But along with having this as public space, really,

1141
01:38:47,500 --> 01:38:51,440
or private balconies for everybody along the south end

1142
01:38:51,440 --> 01:38:58,560
and the public space at the corner. We've redetailed and we heard a lot of comments

1143
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:03,420
about adding detail, so I can, we'll show you a few other pictures here of ideas we

1144
01:39:03,420 --> 01:39:04,620
have along the street.

1145
01:39:06,680 --> 01:39:11,160
Pushing garage doors back, changing materials, adding sconces.

1146
01:39:12,000 --> 01:39:16,900
So we really tried to pay attention to how does this feel as you walk up and down

1147
01:39:16,900 --> 01:39:23,880
the street. Again, we widen the sidewalk along this side as well. So each side will

1148
01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:29,860
have about an 11 foot wide sidewalk, which is significantly more than what is there and

1149
01:39:29,860 --> 01:39:35,740
even what the village owns. They'll have a little bit more sidewalk either way. We've

1150
01:39:35,740 --> 01:39:44,880
added what we call jewelry to the building. Clock, flags. We've changed up the awnings.

1151
01:39:45,600 --> 01:39:47,680
We'll go through a few other areas.

1152
01:39:47,920 --> 01:39:50,420
I have to tell my quick clock story.

1153
01:39:50,640 --> 01:39:53,800
I understand there's some history of challenged clocks

1154
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:58,000
in Glen Ellen, and I don't call them jewelry.

1155
01:39:58,340 --> 01:39:59,900
Chris, I call them accoutrements,

1156
01:40:00,420 --> 01:40:02,660
but we put on our building in Downers Grove,

1157
01:40:02,900 --> 01:40:04,560
a clock called Big Sam.

1158
01:40:04,920 --> 01:40:07,400
We found it on a building that was torn down

1159
01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:09,760
near the monument to the Great Fire of London.

1160
01:40:10,180 --> 01:40:12,740
We shipped it here, put it up on the building,

1161
01:40:12,740 --> 01:40:18,380
and there's a plaque on it and it's really just a fun story and it's an

1162
01:40:18,380 --> 01:40:23,840
example of us not just cutting corners but really going the extra mile. Here's

1163
01:40:23,840 --> 01:40:27,760
my embarrassing story. So we go and meet with Karen Hall at the Glen Ellen

1164
01:40:27,760 --> 01:40:33,260
Historical Society. We find this beautiful corner bracket hung clock and we

1165
01:40:33,260 --> 01:40:38,600
worked with Larry Olive who deals with the Marshall Fields clock etc. and

1166
01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:40,280
and asked him if he could replicate it.

1167
01:40:40,780 --> 01:40:43,580
And we thought that this clock no longer exists,

1168
01:40:43,620 --> 01:40:47,760
but it's still on the corner of Main Street and Crescent.

1169
01:40:47,940 --> 01:40:49,500
So we waste a little time trying to,

1170
01:40:49,520 --> 01:40:51,300
we now can't copy their clock,

1171
01:40:52,000 --> 01:40:54,280
but we're, there's a picture later

1172
01:40:54,280 --> 01:40:59,140
of what we're trying to do on that particular feature.

1173
01:40:59,520 --> 01:41:02,620
And then Chris, there's, there are some other elements,

1174
01:41:03,480 --> 01:41:05,380
you know, that we can probably get to.

1175
01:41:05,460 --> 01:41:07,500
I know Katie mentioned the gas lanterns,

1176
01:41:07,500 --> 01:41:09,080
but it really is a nice touch.

1177
01:41:09,660 --> 01:41:12,440
And we're doing that at the front entrance.

1178
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:18,160
Some of the feedback that we got from the historical society

1179
01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:21,960
as well as the historical preservation committee

1180
01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:25,500
was just incorporating this vertical filigree ironwork.

1181
01:41:25,700 --> 01:41:27,000
And so we're trying to do that.

1182
01:41:27,060 --> 01:41:28,500
We thought it was a really great idea.

1183
01:41:29,160 --> 01:41:31,480
And then another concept came out of it,

1184
01:41:31,500 --> 01:41:32,340
which was a mural.

1185
01:41:32,900 --> 01:41:34,840
And so we've done that previously.

1186
01:41:35,200 --> 01:41:36,340
I think there's a picture later

1187
01:41:36,340 --> 01:41:41,320
and Chris's presentation. But these are some of the things that we're trying to do to pay homage

1188
01:41:41,320 --> 01:41:46,540
to the history of the site and the history of this community and make sure that it tastefully fits

1189
01:41:46,540 --> 01:41:57,240
in with within the fabric of Glen Ellen. Right. So just different views of, you know,

1190
01:41:58,120 --> 01:42:02,240
how it will look from different angles. I know Katie went through a few of these as well.

1191
01:42:02,240 --> 01:42:06,420
we wanted to look at the building at night because we feel it's you know it's

1192
01:42:06,420 --> 01:42:10,160
not just there during the day we want to understand at night played with

1193
01:42:10,160 --> 01:42:17,380
different lighting patterns and you know where how it would look what kind of

1194
01:42:17,380 --> 01:42:21,960
sconces go with this type of building what go with the community we've

1195
01:42:21,960 --> 01:42:28,060
studied different areas of the community and ultimately we feel like

1196
01:42:28,060 --> 01:42:33,400
we've got the lighting right and and the building as well

1197
01:42:36,720 --> 01:42:40,320
so I'm gonna go to these

1198
01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:45,220
so what we did along the street as Drew was saying we added a lot of iron work

1199
01:42:45,220 --> 01:42:52,520
along the whole building but especially along Crescent just above the one

1200
01:42:52,520 --> 01:42:58,520
story space so as you're walking down the street it's gonna feel like

1201
01:42:58,520 --> 01:43:04,300
different facades as you're walking by. These these different portions bump out.

1202
01:43:04,480 --> 01:43:09,380
There's varying heights so you'll not just feel like you're walking along one

1203
01:43:09,380 --> 01:43:18,260
story wall. You know there's different arches and things like that and we do

1204
01:43:18,260 --> 01:43:22,920
have some ideas for what we can do here to enliven it a little bit more. We

1205
01:43:22,920 --> 01:43:27,520
think we're gonna have to engage the historical society and do some

1206
01:43:27,520 --> 01:43:32,320
research ourselves to get this next step, but it's something I don't know that

1207
01:43:32,320 --> 01:43:39,980
we've proposed to Katie yet, but we'll have to talk about that. But we've talked

1208
01:43:39,980 --> 01:43:46,400
about the different materials on the site. We've submitted a sample board if

1209
01:43:46,400 --> 01:43:51,220
anyone wants to see the actual colors, but we're trying to really do a

1210
01:43:51,220 --> 01:44:00,340
variation. We've chosen three very different bricks, real stone, black windows, black accents.

1211
01:44:00,600 --> 01:44:04,680
We played with different colors on this building. We feel we've got the colors right.

1212
01:44:10,350 --> 01:44:12,290
So I'll

1213
01:44:12,290 --> 01:44:17,290
let Drew talk a little bit about some of the, this is just some imagery of what they've

1214
01:44:17,290 --> 01:44:21,810
done at other buildings. Just to show you, you know, this is not just someone walking

1215
01:44:21,810 --> 01:44:27,050
in off the street. This is a company that does this a lot. So Drew, I don't know if you want to

1216
01:44:27,050 --> 01:44:35,890
start. Yeah, actually there's a big Sam clock in the upper left corner, Chris, of your screen.

1217
01:44:36,490 --> 01:44:42,050
This is actually, all these pictures are pulled from Burlington Station. We elected to do that

1218
01:44:42,050 --> 01:44:49,670
because it's, you know, in many ways comparable in terms of the size of the site as well as

1219
01:44:49,670 --> 01:44:55,830
the unit quantity. So, you know, we've got a variety of different amenity spaces. There's

1220
01:44:55,830 --> 01:44:59,010
a fitness area, the outdoor TV.

1221
01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:07,340
Local TV wall here, a grilling station, you know, all of these buildings that we embrace

1222
01:45:07,340 --> 01:45:13,340
pets in our communities. Katie mentioned the pets by you can give your dog a bath or a blow

1223
01:45:13,340 --> 01:45:20,140
in a hair drive or a cut. Chris, why don't you zoom in on the aura award for a minute.

1224
01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:27,400
I'm going to brag briefly. This project in Downers Grove that was an inspiration for

1225
01:45:27,400 --> 01:45:32,400
what we're proposing here in Glen Allen was rigged to the top five apartment

1226
01:45:32,400 --> 01:45:37,260
buildings in the state of Illinois. This is based on unsolicited online user

1227
01:45:37,260 --> 01:45:44,540
reviews. We really value our residents greatly. And we want this to feel like

1228
01:45:44,540 --> 01:45:50,020
their home. This isn't just something that we say we believe it. We live it.

1229
01:45:50,280 --> 01:45:55,960
We participate in local food drives. We just ran a blood drive at the

1230
01:45:55,960 --> 01:46:02,760
Downers Grove building and you know that people end up staying in our buildings

1231
01:46:02,760 --> 01:46:08,220
much longer than the average because they love to live there and it's part of

1232
01:46:08,220 --> 01:46:13,900
what makes us successful so thanks Chris I this should be similar you know that

1233
01:46:13,900 --> 01:46:21,640
inside of the unit to what it might feel like but that's all I got okay all

1234
01:46:21,640 --> 01:46:28,240
So we wanted to talk about how we got to where we are and some of the things

1235
01:46:28,240 --> 01:46:32,260
maybe we should have these slides a little sooner but we were mimicking can

1236
01:46:32,260 --> 01:46:39,080
you zoom in on that yeah we went down a path to recreate that and it still

1237
01:46:39,080 --> 01:46:46,340
exists I'm so embarrassed so so we just want to show you know we've been

1238
01:46:46,340 --> 01:46:50,320
looking at you know different buildings as you know from the day we walked in

1239
01:46:50,320 --> 01:46:56,360
the door we're encouraged to, you know, really look at the downtown. And these are just some

1240
01:46:56,360 --> 01:47:03,960
of the buildings and some of the areas. As Drew mentioned, at 460 Main, this historic

1241
01:47:03,960 --> 01:47:13,120
clock feature, the black awnings, the brick colors, the gas lanterns, the corner treatment.

1242
01:47:14,780 --> 01:47:18,240
This one, actually this was kind of our first corner treatment where we actually had

1243
01:47:18,240 --> 01:47:24,340
a column on the corner, and we've changed it to, which is actually at Duane and Maine

1244
01:47:24,340 --> 01:47:32,300
and Clipped Corner, the Blackberry Market, the detailing in the walls with the stone

1245
01:47:32,300 --> 01:47:40,760
and the brick, the downlights above, there's these Gooseneck, which are another feature

1246
01:47:40,760 --> 01:47:46,880
that you see throughout the downtown that we've incorporated as well. Columns, you

1247
01:47:46,880 --> 01:47:51,500
you know, framing in the storefronts, the banding going across the building,

1248
01:47:53,700 --> 01:48:00,860
Pennsylvania Avenue, these buildings over here, the masonry, the banding, the detailing, again,

1249
01:48:01,060 --> 01:48:07,100
gas lanterns, the window grids. This was, I think, one of the first spots we saw, the black windows

1250
01:48:07,100 --> 01:48:13,480
with the window grids. Again, Duane and Maine, you know, the clipped corner, black awnings,

1251
01:48:13,480 --> 01:48:19,720
the columns, the goose neck lights. You're starting to see, you know, we did use the elements.

1252
01:48:20,500 --> 01:48:25,740
We may have, you know, arranged them a little bit differently, but I think we've been sympathetic

1253
01:48:25,740 --> 01:48:34,100
to the local architecture in our design. And I don't think we're, and then the other relevant

1254
01:48:34,680 --> 01:48:43,460
ones are the Glen Aster condos and the new Civic Center parking with the stone and the

1255
01:48:43,460 --> 01:48:46,180
Very good. Let's keep going.

1256
01:48:46,760 --> 01:48:54,220
Yeah. So what we were, you know, after talking with the historical society, they had shared some images with us.

1257
01:48:55,400 --> 01:49:05,420
Some cornice samples that they had given us, decorative, you know, again, gas feature, gas lights, enhanced columns.

1258
01:49:05,820 --> 01:49:08,360
These are a few things we're actually pursuing.

1259
01:49:12,100 --> 01:49:17,780
Maybe taking a closer look at putting some carvings into the columns at the front door.

1260
01:49:19,360 --> 01:49:25,360
We're trying to see if we can maybe get a gas lanterns that are a little bit more historic

1261
01:49:25,360 --> 01:49:26,280
than what we have.

1262
01:49:28,500 --> 01:49:33,820
And as you, you know, you had seen the archers down the street on Crescent, what we're looking

1263
01:49:33,820 --> 01:49:41,060
at doing there is maybe working with them or local artisans to create maybe some iron

1264
01:49:41,060 --> 01:49:41,360
work.

1265
01:49:42,340 --> 01:49:48,040
We've added the goosenecks above the arches and the different niches along Crescent and

1266
01:49:48,040 --> 01:49:51,020
we think it's going to be a great spot to maybe put some local art.

1267
01:49:52,300 --> 01:49:54,360
Maybe it's an old window from a church.

1268
01:49:54,700 --> 01:49:59,660
Maybe it's an old gate off an old house that has a lot of interest.

1269
01:49:59,660 --> 01:50:05,960
maybe this is rotating art that can be changed around, but it would give a lot

1270
01:50:05,960 --> 01:50:09,520
of interest to people walking up and down the street instead of just a brick

1271
01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:16,520
wall. So this is another clock that Druid mentioned. We're looking at maybe

1272
01:50:16,520 --> 01:50:21,460
designing our own clock, having some sort of a feature that's unique to the

1273
01:50:21,460 --> 01:50:21,780
building.

1274
01:50:24,820 --> 01:50:27,480
Murals is something else that we've looked at. There are

1275
01:50:27,480 --> 01:50:33,160
examples of murals in the town. We thought that was another interesting thing

1276
01:50:33,160 --> 01:50:40,280
that the Historical Society had brought up. We entertained looking at areas that,

1277
01:50:40,440 --> 01:50:47,880
you know, that would work on the site. More than happy to do that. And I'll show

1278
01:50:47,880 --> 01:50:53,780
you a quick example of something that Holliday has actually done in their own

1279
01:50:53,780 --> 01:50:54,140
buildings.

1280
01:50:57,440 --> 01:51:02,820
Vivian Meyer, she's a nanny slash photographer who sort of became

1281
01:51:02,820 --> 01:51:07,540
famous posthumously, went around taking these spontaneous pictures with the

1282
01:51:07,540 --> 01:51:12,140
rolloflex camera. All the pictures are square. She's called the originator of

1283
01:51:12,140 --> 01:51:16,960
the selfie. So we were able to acquire a number of original prints that

1284
01:51:17,840 --> 01:51:22,260
pictures that she took. We adorned the building with it and painted a mural

1285
01:51:22,260 --> 01:51:29,840
telling this story and it would just be another example of the type of

1286
01:51:29,840 --> 01:51:33,820
attention that we put under the inside of the building. Some of the ideas that we

1287
01:51:33,820 --> 01:51:38,160
have right now for our lobby if you go to the upper left corner Chris of this

1288
01:51:38,160 --> 01:51:44,040
is just you know trying to take advantage of existing terrific

1289
01:51:44,040 --> 01:51:48,220
photography of the downtown and pulling that into the lobby and

1290
01:51:48,220 --> 01:51:54,060
celebrating the McChesney and Miller grocery who we've been in touch with their

1291
01:51:54,060 --> 01:52:00,600
family by the way and you know again I hate to keep repeating the phrase

1292
01:52:00,600 --> 01:52:06,380
pain homage but it's important and we realize the deep history of this town

1293
01:52:06,380 --> 01:52:12,320
and this site and we really are trying to identify ways to celebrate that so

1294
01:52:12,320 --> 01:52:13,760
So this is one of the examples.

1295
01:52:15,300 --> 01:52:15,800
Yeah.

1296
01:52:19,100 --> 01:52:23,220
And then just other imagery that has been shared with us,

1297
01:52:23,360 --> 01:52:26,620
there was a lot of floral imagery that

1298
01:52:27,500 --> 01:52:32,820
has come up, the harm and wild flowers and other things,

1299
01:52:33,180 --> 01:52:36,460
birds, that again, these are all images and ideas

1300
01:52:36,460 --> 01:52:39,300
that we've got after meeting with the Historical Society.

1301
01:52:39,980 --> 01:52:43,960
We're not 100% sure where exactly things could go,

1302
01:52:43,960 --> 01:52:50,260
but it definitely generated a lot of ideas that we think are great and we think is really enhanced the building

1303
01:52:54,640 --> 01:53:02,540
Go ahead Chris. I think just out of respect for everybody. We're probably going a little it's probably my fault, but

1304
01:53:03,100 --> 01:53:09,240
Try going in a little too much detail here. Yeah, so I will finish with these are some

1305
01:53:09,900 --> 01:53:16,540
Images that we have gotten we just received and this is actually a we submitted our model

1306
01:53:16,900 --> 01:53:24,280
of the building to your consultant who is modeling your downtown. So, you know, we haven't had too

1307
01:53:24,280 --> 01:53:31,020
much time to really tweak these or sort through them or check their accuracy, but they seem pretty

1308
01:53:31,020 --> 01:53:36,760
good as far as, you know, they have actually modeled all the buildings or they're in the

1309
01:53:36,760 --> 01:53:43,020
process of that. So what this does is gives you an understanding of how the building will fit

1310
01:53:44,160 --> 01:53:53,160
into the town. To the south of the building, I know we're going for the

1311
01:53:53,160 --> 01:53:56,520
zero-lot line but there is nothing across the street and it's our

1312
01:53:56,520 --> 01:54:00,200
understanding there probably will never be anything across the street to be

1313
01:54:00,200 --> 01:54:05,300
crowded or whatnot. I don't think that the building being up against the lot

1314
01:54:05,300 --> 01:54:10,900
line is a negative since the downtown is a block away and everything there is

1315
01:54:10,900 --> 01:54:17,140
on the zero lot line. But you get the feeling for, you know, what this would feel like on

1316
01:54:17,140 --> 01:54:17,560
the street.

1317
01:54:22,040 --> 01:54:29,280
This is looking from the west. I'm sorry, from the east. And this is up looking

1318
01:54:29,280 --> 01:54:30,980
north on Pennsylvania Avenue.

1319
01:54:33,430 --> 01:54:37,250
And this is looking south from the rooftops of Pennsylvania

1320
01:54:37,250 --> 01:54:44,990
Avenue. And sorry, I know you're forgot your little bit small there. And then this

1321
01:54:44,990 --> 01:54:51,830
This is actually in the northwest looking southeast off of Pennsylvania Avenue.

1322
01:54:55,590 --> 01:54:59,310
There is one last height thing I do need to point out.

1323
01:55:00,230 --> 01:55:07,570
So we're going for a height variance and I think, you know, we've talked about the

1324
01:55:07,570 --> 01:55:12,070
60-foot height and this just I think makes it a little more clear.

1325
01:55:12,310 --> 01:55:14,330
This dashed line is your 60 feet.

1326
01:55:14,330 --> 01:55:20,610
as you can see that's actually above our roof in pretty much any other town

1327
01:55:20,610 --> 01:55:27,710
around the Chicagoland area and I would I would beg to say the U.S. they don't take

1328
01:55:27,710 --> 01:55:31,870
they take it to the roof line is the maximum building height Glen Ellen is

1329
01:55:31,870 --> 01:55:36,690
is an odd town where they actually take it to the top of whatever is on the

1330
01:55:36,690 --> 01:55:43,670
roof so anywhere else that I know of around Chicagoland this building is

1331
01:55:43,670 --> 01:55:50,590
below the maximum building height. Parapets do not count, elevators, shafts, mechanical

1332
01:55:50,590 --> 01:55:57,790
units do not count. So just wanted to point that out that actually, you know, the elements

1333
01:55:57,790 --> 01:56:01,650
that we've been encouraged to push up are actually the things that are pushing us over

1334
01:56:01,650 --> 01:56:09,030
the building height here. And the other slide I would show is our relationship. We are

1335
01:56:09,030 --> 01:56:14,530
at a valley, we're at a very low point in the village. You can see this is a

1336
01:56:14,530 --> 01:56:20,610
north-south cut through the site. These are actually the townhomes north of

1337
01:56:20,610 --> 01:56:26,850
Pennsylvania, and we are about the same height as they are. They're one story

1338
01:56:26,850 --> 01:56:31,990
shorter, but since we are so low, we are really just about the same height as

1339
01:56:31,990 --> 01:56:36,930
they are. So again, just to go, I know height has come up in a few

1340
01:56:36,930 --> 01:56:44,490
comments from, you know, people emailing in and other people have made comments, but I

1341
01:56:44,490 --> 01:56:49,930
just wanted to point that out that we are, you know, we don't feel height is an issue

1342
01:56:51,850 --> 01:56:52,870
for those reasons.

1343
01:56:55,140 --> 01:56:56,480
And I will stop there.

1344
01:57:00,360 --> 01:57:00,860
All right.

1345
01:57:00,980 --> 01:57:01,480
Thank you, Chris.

1346
01:57:02,320 --> 01:57:02,560
Thank you.

1347
01:57:05,720 --> 01:57:08,540
Drew, is that the last of the presentation?

1348
01:57:09,600 --> 01:57:12,580
I bet you guys hope so. I think it is.

1349
01:57:14,240 --> 01:57:19,240
We'd love to have comments, questions from the plan commission, from the community.

1350
01:57:21,300 --> 01:57:23,340
I believe we're done. Thank you.

1351
01:57:23,340 --> 01:57:26,940
Okay. Well, thank you all three of you very much. I really appreciate it.

1352
01:57:27,560 --> 01:57:37,620
I, and this is the opportunity for the plan commission to ask questions of you three. So let's start with the, is there any questions from the plan commissioner from our petitioners.

1353
01:57:40,020 --> 01:57:40,900
I have some.

1354
01:57:41,400 --> 01:57:42,960
Okay, John, let's start with you.

1355
01:57:43,660 --> 01:57:48,760
Can we stop with the screen sharing so I can see our fellow plant commissioners?

1356
01:57:49,380 --> 01:57:53,100
Unless there's something you wanted to see and you're asking about, John.

1357
01:57:53,320 --> 01:57:55,040
So let's see.

1358
01:57:55,040 --> 01:57:58,360
Well, I just, a couple of things.

1359
01:57:58,560 --> 01:58:04,520
One, could you address safety in terms of evacuating the building?

1360
01:58:07,300 --> 01:58:13,740
and also the other thing that crossed my mind, I know we're replacing an impervious service

1361
01:58:13,740 --> 01:58:23,560
from an impervious surface, but are there particular stormwater control elements that

1362
01:58:23,560 --> 01:58:24,960
are incorporated into the building?

1363
01:58:25,800 --> 01:58:39,320
So I have that and then I'm interested in the in the in the single in the the single of the metering of separate metering of apartments in terms of utilities.

1364
01:58:40,740 --> 01:58:46,540
Okay, Chris why don't you tackle ingress egress fire in situations for water.

1365
01:58:46,980 --> 01:58:47,600
Okay.

1366
01:58:48,780 --> 01:58:49,460
Sorry.

1367
01:58:50,440 --> 01:58:52,340
I will just jump back to the screen here.

1368
01:58:52,340 --> 01:59:02,920
So, egress, obviously, we would be following all of the, you know, IBC codes and local fire ordinance codes.

1369
01:59:04,560 --> 01:59:13,160
There are, that's probably the best one, two stairwells, you know, the travel distances have been checked.

1370
01:59:13,300 --> 01:59:20,040
We're within the guidelines of travel distances, so there would be a stair at the back of the building as well as the front of the building.

1371
01:59:20,780 --> 01:59:27,160
both would exit directly out to protected pathways to get out.

1372
01:59:27,500 --> 01:59:32,320
So it's a typical anything you'd see in an apartment building

1373
01:59:32,320 --> 01:59:37,660
or a hotel or whatever, same type of evacuation.

1374
01:59:37,980 --> 01:59:39,240
Fully sprinkled building.

1375
01:59:39,380 --> 01:59:40,860
Fully sprinkled building, yes.

1376
01:59:43,160 --> 01:59:48,720
stormwater, that, you know, we do have green space.

1377
01:59:49,760 --> 01:59:51,100
Chris, I can answer that.

1378
01:59:52,160 --> 01:59:52,320
Okay.

1379
01:59:52,560 --> 01:59:57,540
If you're a civil engineer, any McKenna is also available to answer questions.

1380
01:59:57,540 --> 01:59:59,760
Um, but they

1381
02:00:00,210 --> 02:00:08,070
I guess Commissioner Mulheron, they are under the threshold to provide additional stormwater

1382
02:00:08,070 --> 02:00:15,930
facilities on the site with less than 300 square feet of net new impervious surface. And then

1383
02:00:15,930 --> 02:00:22,130
they do have some drainage, stormwater drainage facilities along the north side of the building

1384
02:00:22,130 --> 02:00:29,790
and then it connects into the sewer and the rights of way if we need to swear in

1385
02:00:29,790 --> 02:00:33,930
senior civil engineer McKenna to speak in greater detail unless that answers your

1386
02:00:33,930 --> 02:00:34,290
question.

1387
02:00:37,520 --> 02:00:42,760
Is that okay? Yeah I think it's fine that's fine. Okay. I'll address

1388
02:00:42,760 --> 02:00:47,680
metering so all the buildings will be independently metered for

1389
02:00:47,680 --> 02:00:53,140
electricity. NICOR will not independently meter buildings for gas

1390
02:00:53,140 --> 02:00:59,140
any longer. The way that we address that is through a sub-metering system by Yardee or

1391
02:00:59,140 --> 02:01:07,960
real page or two of the vendors that we typically work with. So I guess that I could talk more

1392
02:01:07,960 --> 02:01:10,980
about it but I guess that probably answers your question.

1393
02:01:12,140 --> 02:01:12,640
Drew.

1394
02:01:13,220 --> 02:01:13,940
Water trash.

1395
02:01:16,320 --> 02:01:17,620
Drew, can you hear me now?

1396
02:01:18,100 --> 02:01:21,280
Mike, we can hear you but we're going to have to swear you in before you speak.

1397
02:01:22,120 --> 02:01:31,320
Hi, Mike O'Connor. I'm with Holiday Properties Vice President Leasing and Development, 6370

1398
02:01:31,320 --> 02:01:39,940
AmeriPlex Drive, Portage, Indiana. Okay, Barbara would you slow them in please? All right. Do

1399
02:01:39,940 --> 02:01:45,160
you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth? Yes, I do. Thank you.

1400
02:01:45,160 --> 02:01:46,460
Thank you.

1401
02:01:46,480 --> 02:01:47,280
Welcome, Mike.

1402
02:01:48,720 --> 02:01:48,800
Thanks.

1403
02:01:49,160 --> 02:01:49,920
Sorry for the confusion.

1404
02:01:50,380 --> 02:01:52,920
I just wanted to add on the exiting that we,

1405
02:01:53,000 --> 02:01:54,700
we have an emergency generator.

1406
02:01:54,960 --> 02:01:57,820
It would be connected to the elevators for,

1407
02:01:57,900 --> 02:02:00,040
for residents either.

1408
02:02:02,220 --> 02:02:05,020
Limited in mobility or otherwise.

1409
02:02:05,700 --> 02:02:08,280
To exit the building and emergency as well.

1410
02:02:08,600 --> 02:02:10,060
Emergency generator kicks in.

1411
02:02:11,880 --> 02:02:12,680
Using the elevator.

1412
02:02:12,680 --> 02:02:15,700
And there's areas of rescue in the building as well.

1413
02:02:17,990 --> 02:02:19,070
Okay, thank you.

1414
02:02:20,010 --> 02:02:22,270
And John, that answers your question, correct?

1415
02:02:22,770 --> 02:02:22,930
Yep.

1416
02:02:23,410 --> 02:02:23,650
Okay.

1417
02:02:25,390 --> 02:02:28,070
Others have questions for the petitioner.

1418
02:02:29,930 --> 02:02:30,790
Okay, go ahead, Tracy.

1419
02:02:32,530 --> 02:02:41,950
Can you give us a little bit of idea of what you would think about what type of retail space, you know, what, what type of.

1420
02:02:43,250 --> 02:02:43,810
Yeah.

1421
02:02:43,810 --> 02:02:46,030
What could be in that retail space?

1422
02:02:46,270 --> 02:02:48,130
I meant to speak to that earlier.

1423
02:02:48,750 --> 02:02:50,510
Thank you for that question.

1424
02:02:50,610 --> 02:02:53,350
So we haven't started marketing this space yet,

1425
02:02:53,350 --> 02:02:56,070
but what we envision here would be

1426
02:02:56,070 --> 02:02:58,210
some sort of a service retail,

1427
02:02:58,650 --> 02:03:00,910
a boutique retailer, for example.

1428
02:03:01,810 --> 02:03:04,070
What we're chasing right now

1429
02:03:04,070 --> 02:03:06,550
is we have this exclusive opportunity

1430
02:03:06,550 --> 02:03:08,030
as sort of a high-end deli

1431
02:03:08,030 --> 02:03:09,770
with fresh cut meats and sandwiches.

1432
02:03:10,150 --> 02:03:12,810
There's one in a community, not far,

1433
02:03:12,810 --> 02:03:17,510
that we're working with the owner to try to get him in.

1434
02:03:18,010 --> 02:03:21,550
That's actually, we asked McChesney Miller family

1435
02:03:21,550 --> 02:03:23,930
if we could use their name for the deli.

1436
02:03:24,750 --> 02:03:27,390
They have to, apparently it's a democratic process

1437
02:03:27,390 --> 02:03:29,690
in the family if they were to authorize that.

1438
02:03:29,830 --> 02:03:32,830
But those are some of the ideas, a hair salon,

1439
02:03:33,110 --> 02:03:34,550
potentially a nail salon.

1440
02:03:35,770 --> 02:03:38,650
I would say a boutique, a wine shop,

1441
02:03:38,890 --> 02:03:40,870
like you've got in, say, downtown Hinsdale,

1442
02:03:40,870 --> 02:03:44,510
but we kind of have that across the street, but it would be of that vein.

1443
02:03:47,140 --> 02:03:50,220
Thank you. That's a nice idea.

1444
02:03:52,700 --> 02:03:53,720
Other, go ahead, David.

1445
02:03:55,340 --> 02:04:03,200
Thank you. I had just a few questions. The last building section that you showed sort of indicated

1446
02:04:04,280 --> 02:04:09,740
that mechanical equipment equipment was actually the highest part of the project.

1447
02:04:09,740 --> 02:04:14,880
can you bring that yeah it was the black and white section that you showed at the

1448
02:04:14,880 --> 02:04:21,160
end there yeah it or maybe Chris you brought it yeah I'm building heights so

1449
02:04:21,160 --> 02:04:29,600
you are right it is the the it's the mechanical unit that is actually the

1450
02:04:29,600 --> 02:04:35,060
highest the elevator shaft is you know our typical shaft is only about four

1451
02:04:35,060 --> 02:04:41,380
and a half feet so you are correct. So is that like a cooling tower? No it would

1452
02:04:41,380 --> 02:04:46,660
be those are typically the fresh air units for the hallways that bring in

1453
02:04:46,660 --> 02:04:50,760
okay make up there yeah the make up there. All right so if those are the

1454
02:04:50,760 --> 02:04:55,000
tallest elements and we can't build a screen higher than those tallest

1455
02:04:55,000 --> 02:04:58,340
elements are you gonna build a screen to surround those elements?

1456
02:05:00,880 --> 02:05:01,980
Yeah that's

1457
02:05:01,980 --> 02:05:03,800
That's something that we've talked to staff about.

1458
02:05:05,020 --> 02:05:08,060
What the plan was really was to understand

1459
02:05:09,000 --> 02:05:13,020
the 3D views from the consultants

1460
02:05:13,020 --> 02:05:15,400
to see if they were visible from the street.

1461
02:05:15,880 --> 02:05:17,760
And if they determined they were visible,

1462
02:05:17,760 --> 02:05:20,600
then we would just provide screens

1463
02:05:20,600 --> 02:05:22,180
around those separate screens.

1464
02:05:23,040 --> 02:05:23,080
Yeah.

1465
02:05:23,620 --> 02:05:26,100
I mean, I guess I'm also, you know,

1466
02:05:26,160 --> 02:05:28,520
I understand streets, but I also know you,

1467
02:05:28,520 --> 02:05:44,180
The neighbors, you know, the neighbors to the north are going to be seeing those units. They have pretty much a blocked view and I would think a little sensitivity now a mechanical unit versus a screen.

1468
02:05:44,780 --> 02:05:54,040
You know, the mechanical units smaller than a surrounding screen that you'd have to build around it. So I understand, as long as noise doesn't become an issue.

1469
02:05:56,600 --> 02:06:07,420
Yeah, the parapets we felt were pretty tall, but we said we would, you know, hold and let

1470
02:06:07,420 --> 02:06:12,880
the 3D model speak for itself. And if they have to be screened separately, then that's

1471
02:06:12,880 --> 02:06:14,580
something that would have to be done.

1472
02:06:15,160 --> 02:06:18,520
Okay. Just two other questions, they'll be short.

1473
02:06:18,520 --> 02:06:19,000
Sure.

1474
02:06:19,240 --> 02:06:25,320
On the street along Crescent, you know, the safety and pulling the garage doors in, I

1475
02:06:25,320 --> 02:06:27,240
do think help a little bit in that.

1476
02:06:27,400 --> 02:06:36,600
Can you describe when a car comes in and out, are there safety lights, something to warn

1477
02:06:36,600 --> 02:06:37,420
the pedestrians?

1478
02:06:38,000 --> 02:06:44,600
Yeah, we're going to have to do safety lights that would be flashing, I believe, a beep

1479
02:06:44,600 --> 02:06:45,500
as well.

1480
02:06:45,500 --> 02:06:49,700
I'm not not a hundred percent sure on that what the rules are right now, but

1481
02:06:50,780 --> 02:06:56,900
And then it is set back the system that we've proposed is a

1482
02:06:57,780 --> 02:07:03,140
Window sticker on the cars. So when they pull up the garage door immediately starts to open and

1483
02:07:04,380 --> 02:07:10,240
The garage doors are pretty slow, you know, so you do even if you're a passerby you kind of see, you know

1484
02:07:10,240 --> 02:07:12,320
they're not that you know like

1485
02:07:12,320 --> 02:07:21,420
Quick roll-up doors like you'd see in a factory or something. Okay. Okay. And then as far as the parking goes the

1486
02:07:21,420 --> 02:07:31,160
1.2 spaces, are they assigned? Are they leased? Or are they first come first serve park anywhere? Yeah, true.

1487
02:07:31,160 --> 02:07:39,180
So all of our parking is assigned and it can rotate a little bit, but you know where your spot is.

1488
02:07:39,260 --> 02:07:46,580
It's one of the ways that, you know, you just kind of get really used to pulling into your spot every day.

1489
02:07:47,300 --> 02:07:52,860
But they're all assigned parking. Another thing that we try to do to discourage, you know,

1490
02:07:52,960 --> 02:07:59,520
the second parking space is we charge a little bit more for that and try to utilize economics to encourage walkability.

1491
02:07:59,520 --> 02:08:10,680
But yeah, I think with garages like this assigned spaces, I mean, like you said, there's some are some of these spaces are tough people get used to backing into them or whatever.

1492
02:08:11,240 --> 02:08:11,840
Yeah.

1493
02:08:12,240 --> 02:08:25,480
But then the other issue, you know, guest parking is that something that you've accounted for is that something the village is going to account address or permit street or lot parking for guests.

1494
02:08:26,960 --> 02:08:32,340
So, I am not able to answer for the village, I will defer to them.

1495
02:08:33,180 --> 02:08:44,860
We so closely manage these buildings that if we have an extra one or two or three spots and somebody has a grandparent or a grandchild visiting, and we have an extra spot, we'll let them park there.

1496
02:08:45,800 --> 02:08:51,760
One thing that typically happens, it's really interesting in these TOD projects is that you've

1497
02:08:51,760 --> 02:08:59,160
got municipal parking in plentiful municipal parking that's typically underutilized during

1498
02:08:59,160 --> 02:09:01,760
the times where you would typically have a visitor.

1499
02:09:02,180 --> 02:09:06,400
And so if there's a collaborative approach to the issue, what often happens, so for

1500
02:09:06,400 --> 02:09:11,540
example, downward growth, our leasing manager can contact the village and get an overnight

1501
02:09:11,540 --> 02:09:15,220
I pass for a municipal lot D for one or two or three nights.

1502
02:09:15,380 --> 02:09:17,500
You've got to be out of there by, you know,

1503
02:09:17,540 --> 02:09:19,280
seven in the morning or something,

1504
02:09:19,380 --> 02:09:22,480
but they're able to park overnight in a municipal lot.

1505
02:09:22,580 --> 02:09:27,600
And it just maximizes the utilization of those spaces.

1506
02:09:28,040 --> 02:09:29,720
Does that answer the question?

1507
02:09:30,260 --> 02:09:33,060
I think so, I, you know, as long as the village

1508
02:09:33,060 --> 02:09:36,060
has an approach to doing that with these buildings,

1509
02:09:37,540 --> 02:09:40,980
I think that's, we just, we can't park on the street.

1510
02:09:40,980 --> 02:09:47,620
we know that. Yeah, right after 2 a.m. it's pretty typical. I'll jump back to

1511
02:09:47,620 --> 02:09:52,160
Downers Grove. Similarity there is just that they, you know, not too long ago

1512
02:09:52,160 --> 02:09:55,540
opened up a new parking structure and so there's an ability to park there

1513
02:09:55,540 --> 02:10:01,400
overnight. It's a couple block walk but this is an urban environment and so I

1514
02:10:01,400 --> 02:10:07,320
don't think that that's that unusual to walk a couple blocks but I don't

1515
02:10:07,320 --> 02:10:12,180
know if the rules have been set for how the parking garage will work. It's really actually

1516
02:10:12,180 --> 02:10:20,600
not that common of an occurrence, but people tend to figure it out. But it is something

1517
02:10:20,600 --> 02:10:23,980
that I'd be curious if the village has a reaction to that.

1518
02:10:24,580 --> 02:10:30,040
Yeah, it just, it becomes an issue when you push the parking numbers down. That's

1519
02:10:30,040 --> 02:10:31,340
my only concern.

1520
02:10:32,440 --> 02:10:34,940
So I appreciate your comments.

1521
02:10:36,420 --> 02:10:38,400
Stacy, do you want to jump in on that one?

1522
02:10:39,300 --> 02:10:40,780
I saw, go ahead.

1523
02:10:41,040 --> 02:10:43,360
I really don't have anything to ask Kelly.

1524
02:10:43,620 --> 02:10:45,620
Is there something that was popping into your head?

1525
02:10:46,120 --> 02:10:48,080
Katie raised your hand. Go ahead, Katie.

1526
02:10:48,660 --> 02:10:56,940
I just wanted to note that it is a suggested condition of approval regarding the rooftop units.

1527
02:10:56,940 --> 02:11:00,760
that all visible rooftop unit, mechanical units,

1528
02:11:00,960 --> 02:11:03,840
see the height, not to exceed that

1529
02:11:03,840 --> 02:11:06,760
of the overall maximum height deviation granted.

1530
02:11:07,540 --> 02:11:11,580
I don't know if that resolves the concern

1531
02:11:11,580 --> 02:11:13,100
for Commissioner Rodiman or not.

1532
02:11:13,440 --> 02:11:16,260
Katie, by the way, I hate to interrupt

1533
02:11:16,260 --> 02:11:18,780
Commissioner Rodiman, but we're happy to agree to that.

1534
02:11:19,140 --> 02:11:23,260
You know, thoughtful screening of rooftop mechanical units.

1535
02:11:23,420 --> 02:11:26,420
I don't really think it's gonna affect folks

1536
02:11:26,420 --> 02:11:30,260
in the way that we're talking about it could be wrong but we'd be happy to

1537
02:11:30,260 --> 02:11:34,820
screen it no problem. Well it and it wasn't necessarily the issue of you know

1538
02:11:34,820 --> 02:11:39,740
I sometimes think that to see the piece of equipment just fine because it's

1539
02:11:39,740 --> 02:11:45,720
smaller in footprint than trying to wrap it with a piece of screening I do

1540
02:11:45,720 --> 02:11:50,900
think if it's going to be a noisy piece of equipment and if you can you

1541
02:11:50,900 --> 02:11:58,560
even a low screen sometimes helps mitigate that and a low screen can also help kind of blend it out

1542
02:11:59,280 --> 02:12:05,280
and that's what the parapets kind of do too. So I think it's just something to be aware of. I know we

1543
02:12:05,280 --> 02:12:10,960
can't build a screen higher than your highest whatever we're going to permit before it was

1544
02:12:10,960 --> 02:12:15,860
described it was going to be the elevator overrun. It's now clear that it'll be the makeup

1545
02:12:15,860 --> 02:12:29,360
Yeah, it's the make up area unit that they do have these really cool clip on screens and it does set off of the unit a couple of inches, but it does help to push noise up. They're really not that noisy.

1546
02:12:30,620 --> 02:12:39,060
But I think, you know, we're going actually a little worried about is the top of that screening going two or three inches.

1547
02:12:39,060 --> 02:12:42,460
is over the top of the MAU and then we get to CFO

1548
02:12:42,460 --> 02:12:43,600
and we can't pull it

1549
02:12:43,600 --> 02:12:46,060
because there are screens like two inches high

1550
02:12:46,060 --> 02:12:48,580
but that's just me being paranoid.

1551
02:12:50,220 --> 02:12:51,300
All right, thank you.

1552
02:12:52,020 --> 02:12:52,600
Is this that?

1553
02:12:53,020 --> 02:12:53,400
Oh, go ahead.

1554
02:12:53,900 --> 02:12:55,320
I just want to add one more thing

1555
02:12:55,320 --> 02:12:57,340
that the village does allow people to park overnight

1556
02:12:57,340 --> 02:12:58,680
in the municipal parking lots.

1557
02:12:59,740 --> 02:13:01,100
So the Crescent Glenwood station

1558
02:13:01,100 --> 02:13:02,640
would be available for visitors.

1559
02:13:03,420 --> 02:13:05,140
It's kind of the same setup as Donner's Grove

1560
02:13:05,140 --> 02:13:06,220
where people would have to split

1561
02:13:06,220 --> 02:13:07,860
before the commuters came into the parking lot

1562
02:13:07,860 --> 02:13:08,220
in the morning.

1563
02:13:08,220 --> 02:13:12,820
but that would be available for use of folks whenever they're staying overnight.

1564
02:13:13,240 --> 02:13:17,540
I commend you for having that flexibility. Not all villages do that, and it's smart,

1565
02:13:17,660 --> 02:13:23,380
and it allows you to utilize and underutilize the outset. So that's really good news. I appreciate

1566
02:13:23,380 --> 02:13:27,860
that Commissioner Rodham and bringing that up. And Kelly, thank you for grabbing that

1567
02:13:27,860 --> 02:13:33,840
information for us to answer that question. I appreciate it. Additional commissioners have,

1568
02:13:33,840 --> 02:13:43,100
Yes, go ahead, Laura. You need to... Yeah. Thank you. Is there a retail... Is there a

1569
02:13:43,100 --> 02:13:51,080
parking space for the retail spot and door? The second question is, will the

1570
02:13:51,080 --> 02:13:55,900
garbage no longer be needed to be outside to be collected? Will they be

1571
02:13:55,900 --> 02:13:57,600
able to come into the building to collect it?

1572
02:14:00,590 --> 02:14:02,250
So two questions there. We

1573
02:14:02,250 --> 02:14:06,950
We currently do not have a provision for any retail customer parking.

1574
02:14:07,430 --> 02:14:12,490
We believe we can allocate one of our internal parking spaces to an employee there.

1575
02:14:14,530 --> 02:14:20,110
And then regarding the trash question, I think I understood that, to me, is there a way

1576
02:14:20,110 --> 02:14:23,390
to pull the commercial trash inside of the building?

1577
02:14:23,670 --> 02:14:24,930
Did I understand that correctly?

1578
02:14:26,010 --> 02:14:31,030
Oh, just back in May, I thought the trash was going to be collected on the sidewalk

1579
02:14:31,030 --> 02:14:39,230
on Crescent? Is that still the case? Yes that that's still the case so the the

1580
02:14:39,230 --> 02:14:42,810
easiest way for us to get the trash in and out of the building is there's a

1581
02:14:42,810 --> 02:14:47,910
slight topography change from where the trash is to the Crescent Street and

1582
02:14:47,910 --> 02:14:52,750
you can't really push trash up no when it's full so even though it's a slight

1583
02:14:52,750 --> 02:14:59,110
grade change it's continuing to be planned on Crescent but designed to be

1584
02:14:59,110 --> 02:14:59,970
is not

1585
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:06,460
At least interruptive is possible. Trash stinks. I mean, I don't mean to be funny or

1586
02:15:06,460 --> 02:15:13,200
punny, but it's something that's hard to deal with. It really is. So this has worked

1587
02:15:13,200 --> 02:15:18,980
for us in other projects, and you know, what does end up happening is you have a

1588
02:15:18,980 --> 02:15:24,000
chance to have your trash, the trash truck double parked for a short

1589
02:15:24,000 --> 02:15:28,040
period of time while they're pulling the bins out, dumping them, and putting

1590
02:15:28,040 --> 02:15:34,100
them back. But they do it very quickly and try to get out of the way as quickly as possible.

1591
02:15:35,620 --> 02:15:43,020
Thank you. All right, thank you. Plan commission members, anybody else have a question for the

1592
02:15:43,020 --> 02:15:43,580
petitioner?

1593
02:15:47,500 --> 02:15:53,100
I don't see anybody else unmuting. So I think what we're going to do at this point

1594
02:15:53,100 --> 02:15:57,940
because of the time is take a five minute break. I've been asked by a couple people if we

1595
02:15:57,940 --> 02:16:04,420
can do that. My computer clocks is 902 so at 907 we are going to start up or okay

1596
02:16:04,420 --> 02:16:07,920
just jump to 903. 908 we're going to start up again so please five minute

1597
02:16:07,920 --> 02:16:11,760
break and then we'll see you back here. My

1598
02:21:04,690 --> 02:21:06,630
clock says 908.

1599
02:21:08,750 --> 02:21:10,010
Not sure that we have

1600
02:21:10,010 --> 02:21:15,450
everybody here but Kelly the next section was I was going to go into was

1601
02:21:15,450 --> 02:21:18,650
the public comment assuming the Planned Commission members haven't thought

1602
02:21:18,650 --> 02:21:22,930
of a question for the petitioner. Are you the one reading letters or is Katie doing that?

1603
02:21:23,590 --> 02:21:26,550
Cole is going to read the public comments into this record.

1604
02:21:27,270 --> 02:21:33,610
Okay. Oh, there he is. I see him now. Okay. Okay. All right. Well, that's not going to start yet.

1605
02:21:33,750 --> 02:21:46,650
I'm going to ask the plan commission members if they are done. I want to ensure that no one had thought of a question before we move away from the plan commission asking the petitioner if they have anything.

1606
02:21:48,570 --> 02:21:52,370
So, if I don't see anything, okay, then we'll go into the section for public comment.

1607
02:21:53,090 --> 02:21:57,550
And I, Cole, I know you've got a number of things to read into the record.

1608
02:21:57,850 --> 02:22:02,410
I also wanted to ensure, are you going to be the one asking if there's anybody on the

1609
02:22:02,410 --> 02:22:07,530
phone that also has a letter that they've written and will they, do they have a preference

1610
02:22:07,530 --> 02:22:10,050
whether they want to speak tonight or have their letter written?

1611
02:22:11,430 --> 02:22:12,410
Sure, we can do that.

1612
02:22:12,610 --> 02:22:16,030
And then Kelly and Stacey, if you want to let me know if anyone's raising their

1613
02:22:16,030 --> 02:22:21,350
hand when we ask that. So we can have them talk please. Okay, that'd be great. I just wanted to

1614
02:22:21,350 --> 02:22:27,030
add that I will be administering the three minute clock to keep everybody on track. Okay, thanks

1615
02:22:27,030 --> 02:22:33,550
Kelly. Very good. Okay, we have 11 written comments so we'll do those first before going

1616
02:22:33,550 --> 02:22:39,690
into everyone's comments on Zoom. The first comment is going to be from Kay Corfoot.

1617
02:22:40,510 --> 02:22:43,950
We do not have an address for this because it was submitted via an email,

1618
02:22:43,950 --> 02:22:53,610
But their comment reads, when you list new apartment buildings being built in Glenelon, it would be informative to state if they would be rentals or condos to purchase. Thank you.

1619
02:22:56,010 --> 02:23:01,250
The next comment is from Samantha Martin at 431 Ridgewood Avenue.

1620
02:23:02,210 --> 02:23:12,370
Their comment reads, I am writing to comment on the proposed apartment complex. As a new resident of Glenelon, I'm surprised at how many apartment buildings this town is currently building and considering to build.

1621
02:23:12,370 --> 02:23:17,270
I have nothing against apartment buildings, but I would not have moved here if so many were going up

1622
02:23:17,270 --> 02:23:23,490
It will ruin the aesthetic and feel the town and crowd the downtown area. I vote no on this project. Thank you

1623
02:23:28,600 --> 02:23:35,440
The next comment is from Mike Wheeler their address is 44466 H Pennsylvania Avenue

1624
02:23:36,520 --> 02:23:40,520
Well just a moment. We do have a Mike Wheeler in the audience. Mr. Wheeler

1625
02:23:40,520 --> 02:23:46,120
Would you rather speak to the plan commissioner? Would you like your if you would like to speak to the plan commission?

1626
02:23:46,120 --> 02:23:49,660
please raise your zoom hand otherwise we'll go ahead and read the comments into the record.

1627
02:23:52,590 --> 02:23:57,390
I don't see a hand raised so go ahead Cole. Perfect. It is exciting to hear that holiday

1628
02:23:57,390 --> 02:24:02,470
properties has returned to further their proposal at 460 C Crescent Avenue. This property has remained

1629
02:24:02,470 --> 02:24:07,430
vacant for far too long. As a nearby resident I have seen dangerous behavior happening on the

1630
02:24:07,430 --> 02:24:11,390
current building's roof and look forward to a new structure they'll be cared for by the owner.

1631
02:24:11,970 --> 02:24:15,590
The deviations that are being requested did not be on reason for a building of this type

1632
02:24:15,590 --> 02:24:17,630
going into a footprint of this size.

1633
02:24:18,210 --> 02:24:20,250
The variance on that height is relatively small

1634
02:24:20,250 --> 02:24:21,950
in comparison to the overall building.

1635
02:24:22,610 --> 02:24:24,090
The parking solid should easily service

1636
02:24:24,090 --> 02:24:25,510
the people living within the building,

1637
02:24:25,890 --> 02:24:27,930
especially with so much within walking distance,

1638
02:24:28,390 --> 02:24:30,390
vehicle sharing programs, and ride sharing.

1639
02:24:31,150 --> 02:24:33,050
It is wonderful to see the development on Main Street

1640
02:24:33,050 --> 02:24:35,250
and Lane Street underway in near and completion.

1641
02:24:35,890 --> 02:24:38,030
These areas have definitely drawn the attention of vendors

1642
02:24:38,350 --> 02:24:40,270
and this new development will continue to draw people

1643
02:24:40,270 --> 02:24:41,910
into the downtown area of Glenelon.

1644
02:24:42,170 --> 02:24:43,490
Thank you for the opportunity to comment.

1645
02:24:46,630 --> 02:24:49,570
The next comment will be from Lee Ann Howell.

1646
02:24:50,250 --> 02:24:52,970
They are located at 713 Kenilworth Avenue.

1647
02:24:55,820 --> 02:25:00,220
Minimal building setback is not pedestrian friendly or in keeping with older parts of downtown.

1648
02:25:01,060 --> 02:25:07,020
Streetscape on the south side along Crescent is particularly severe, barren with no plantings except young trees.

1649
02:25:07,760 --> 02:25:12,520
It will be terrible to walk along the sidewalk in the summer, heat rating off a masonry wall.

1650
02:25:13,020 --> 02:25:18,260
On the east side, in addition to a minimal setback and no planting, what is west with

1651
02:25:18,260 --> 02:25:19,580
the fence along the street?

1652
02:25:20,000 --> 02:25:21,840
How can drivers let a passenger out of a car?

1653
02:25:22,420 --> 02:25:23,140
How will snow be cleared?

1654
02:25:27,700 --> 02:25:34,020
The next comment is from Jena Sampson at 470 Pennsylvania Avenue, Glen Ellen.

1655
02:25:35,860 --> 02:25:40,360
My husband and I own and live in a townhouse directly to the north at the proposed development.

1656
02:25:40,860 --> 02:25:44,680
We will have a direct view of the north side of the building from our second floor

1657
02:25:44,680 --> 02:25:49,800
living room as well as our third floor guest room and our fourth floor family room. I'm concerned

1658
02:25:49,800 --> 02:25:53,780
by the many variances that are requested for this development. While development of this

1659
02:25:53,780 --> 02:25:57,280
property is desirable, having a development that meets our current zoning requirements

1660
02:25:57,280 --> 02:26:01,800
be good for the entire area. Homeowners should be able to rely upon zoning code to protect

1661
02:26:01,800 --> 02:26:05,940
their investment in their homes. By continually granting many variances to the code,

1662
02:26:06,220 --> 02:26:09,780
you undermine the integrity of the zoning code itself. Continually granting zoning

1663
02:26:09,780 --> 02:26:13,800
variations undermines the look and feel of our downtown area. I urge you to stick to

1664
02:26:13,800 --> 02:26:16,060
zoning requirements as you review this proposed development.

1665
02:26:16,980 --> 02:26:18,520
My first specific concern is parking.

1666
02:26:19,400 --> 02:26:21,240
This area already has a significant shortage

1667
02:26:21,240 --> 02:26:23,220
of parking spaces and developers are requesting

1668
02:26:23,220 --> 02:26:25,540
to cut their acquired parking spaces by 47 spaces.

1669
02:26:26,340 --> 02:26:27,640
Even with the new parking garage

1670
02:26:27,640 --> 02:26:28,700
on the south side of the tracks,

1671
02:26:29,120 --> 02:26:30,720
parking in the north side will be very short.

1672
02:26:31,300 --> 02:26:33,140
Renters, shoppers and vinyls will not want to park

1673
02:26:33,140 --> 02:26:34,760
on the south side and walk across the tracks

1674
02:26:34,760 --> 02:26:36,220
to get to their apartment or destination.

1675
02:26:37,080 --> 02:26:39,240
I think it is important that the full requirement

1676
02:26:39,240 --> 02:26:41,300
of parking spaces be provided in this development.

1677
02:26:41,300 --> 02:26:45,400
It is reasonable to think that every renter in this proposed development will have a car.

1678
02:26:45,960 --> 02:26:50,480
Yes, we are very close to the metro station, but even renters who work in downtown Chicago

1679
02:26:50,480 --> 02:26:54,040
will need a car to get basing necessities such as groceries and prescriptions.

1680
02:26:54,780 --> 02:26:58,960
On Friday and Saturday evenings on Pennsylvania Avenue, cars are often double parked and

1681
02:26:58,960 --> 02:27:02,360
parked blocking the entrance and or exit of the legacy condominiums.

1682
02:27:03,140 --> 02:27:07,200
The many restaurants in the area make nighttime parking especially a problem, particularly

1683
02:27:07,200 --> 02:27:13,000
once we go back to full capacity inside dining. Currently, this property is helping to offset

1684
02:27:13,000 --> 02:27:17,360
the parking shortage as visitors use the law for parking. When developed, this extra parking will

1685
02:27:17,360 --> 02:27:21,380
no longer be available for visitors and parking will be harder to find for residents that occupy

1686
02:27:21,380 --> 02:27:25,440
this building. Please require the full amount of parking spaces as determined by the zoning code.

1687
02:27:27,180 --> 02:27:32,180
My second concern is the lack of normal setbacks for the building. By reducing the setbacks

1688
02:27:32,180 --> 02:27:35,380
from Glenwood Avenue and the back of the building, the building will look much larger

1689
02:27:35,380 --> 02:27:39,440
from our viewpoint to the north. It will also not allow landscaping around the back that would

1690
02:27:39,440 --> 02:27:44,180
help beautify, soften, and blend the new building into the area. It will also make the area less

1691
02:27:44,180 --> 02:27:48,580
safe for pedestrians, especially along Glenwood Avenue. The corner of Glenwood Avenue in Pennsylvania

1692
02:27:48,580 --> 02:27:52,760
will need some traffic control and crosswalks added, as it is already difficult to cross

1693
02:27:53,300 --> 02:27:57,580
that corner. The increased traffic that this development will bring will make walking even

1694
02:27:57,580 --> 02:28:01,480
less safe than it is currently. Increased traffic will make an area difficult and dangerous

1695
02:28:01,480 --> 02:28:07,060
exit from the legacy even riskier. I also object to the height variance requested,

1696
02:28:07,580 --> 02:28:10,360
the size of this building will dwarf most buildings in downtown Glen Elm.

1697
02:28:10,680 --> 02:28:14,220
The current zoning height restriction is sufficiently tall. Why do we have a height

1698
02:28:14,220 --> 02:28:18,140
restriction if we do not enforce it? The townhouses in our development have

1699
02:28:18,140 --> 02:28:20,740
rooftop balconies that enjoy the views of the village to the south

1700
02:28:20,740 --> 02:28:23,640
and are a significant part of the enjoyment and value of our units.

1701
02:28:24,320 --> 02:28:27,740
Allowing a height variance will impinge on those views especially for the six homes on

1702
02:28:27,740 --> 02:28:28,500
in Pennsylvania Avenue.

1703
02:28:29,120 --> 02:28:30,360
It will lower our poverty values

1704
02:28:30,360 --> 02:28:31,980
and decrease the enjoyment of our homes.

1705
02:28:32,600 --> 02:28:34,700
The massive blocks file, especially in the request

1706
02:28:34,700 --> 02:28:36,180
to remove the step back requirement

1707
02:28:36,180 --> 02:28:37,460
above 45 feet is granted.

1708
02:28:37,880 --> 02:28:38,720
A couple of minutes.

1709
02:28:40,320 --> 02:28:40,760
Thank you.

1710
02:28:44,450 --> 02:28:48,930
The next comment is from Lee Marks at 475 Hawthorne.

1711
02:28:50,390 --> 02:28:52,410
The building design for Glenwood Station

1712
02:28:52,410 --> 02:28:53,570
should be deemed unacceptable.

1713
02:28:54,130 --> 02:28:56,250
Is the typical anywhere USA design

1714
02:28:56,250 --> 02:28:58,150
that most every developer submits to a town?

1715
02:28:58,690 --> 02:29:00,050
Any building design for Glenwood

1716
02:29:00,050 --> 02:29:04,870
should be reflective of our historic architecture, which began as recriable and on to Italian

1717
02:29:04,870 --> 02:29:10,550
at in the 1880s and 1890s. In addition, the building is too tall for the site. This is

1718
02:29:10,550 --> 02:29:14,990
a standalone building, and if overly large, will stand out like a sore thumb on the Chesney

1719
02:29:14,990 --> 02:29:19,330
site. I would ask the developer to take a look at the outstanding design on the office building

1720
02:29:19,330 --> 02:29:24,430
at 486 Dwayne Street, second building west of Park Boulevard on the north side of Dwayne.

1721
02:29:24,750 --> 02:29:28,410
It is an exceptional contemporary interpretation of American federal period architecture.

1722
02:29:28,910 --> 02:29:32,630
It is obvious that the developer who erected this building spent time touring Glenelon prior

1723
02:29:32,630 --> 02:29:34,090
to presenting this project to the village.

1724
02:29:34,590 --> 02:29:38,590
In my over 50 years of involvement in historic preservation in Glenelon, this is the only

1725
02:29:38,590 --> 02:29:42,510
builder who hit the nail on the head as far as outstanding architectural design is concerned.

1726
02:29:43,070 --> 02:29:46,010
I would ask that the developer for Glenelon Station consider meeting with the local

1727
02:29:46,010 --> 02:29:50,010
architect and some of the preservation people in Glenelon to get a better handle on

1728
02:29:50,010 --> 02:29:51,490
what would be appropriate for the Misesli site.

1729
02:29:52,090 --> 02:29:54,730
The architecture of Glenelon Station doesn't need to be a copy of a specific

1730
02:29:54,730 --> 02:29:58,330
style, but it makes sense design wise, so it contributes to clinical analysis to our

1731
02:29:58,330 --> 02:29:58,850
extra escapes.

1732
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:04,560
Architect Jamie Simonette said that he would be happy to meet and discuss various design

1733
02:30:04,560 --> 02:30:08,520
improvements. With my work in historic preservation, I hear a tremendous number of comments from

1734
02:30:08,520 --> 02:30:12,060
residents who have said to me that while they are not opposed to apartments and condos coming

1735
02:30:12,060 --> 02:30:16,140
to Glen Island, they absolutely do not want Glen Island to become another Arlington Heights

1736
02:30:16,140 --> 02:30:20,500
or Lombard, where suddenly our town center becomes a canyon surrounded by an overly

1737
02:30:20,500 --> 02:30:21,340
tall building.

1738
02:30:25,020 --> 02:30:31,840
The next comment is from Lovis Walter at 124 Newton Avenue. They are

1739
02:30:31,840 --> 02:30:34,840
to comment is simply how many of the proposed departments will be designed affordable.

1740
02:30:38,900 --> 02:30:43,860
The next comment is from Adam Kruser. They are a form of chair of the Environmental Commission

1741
02:30:43,860 --> 02:30:49,860
and a current delegate for the International Dark Sky Association. Good morning and thank

1742
02:30:49,860 --> 02:30:54,440
you for the opportunity to comment. I'm concerned about outdoor lighting. As the village has

1743
02:30:54,440 --> 02:30:58,800
tried to do with its fixtures on Roosevelt and within the CBD with commercial developments,

1744
02:30:59,300 --> 02:31:03,060
the village should address good outdoor lighting design. The proposed projects at

1745
02:31:03,060 --> 02:31:07,220
Ms. Jezny and on Main Street should include light fixtures and bulbs that minimize outdoor

1746
02:31:07,220 --> 02:31:13,440
light pollution. All fixtures should direct light down, not up and or out. Bulbs should

1747
02:31:13,440 --> 02:31:18,520
not be more than 2,700 Kelvin and brightness levels should be addressing controlled. As

1748
02:31:18,520 --> 02:31:22,280
your local IDA delegate, I would like the opportunity to digress these concerns with

1749
02:31:22,280 --> 02:31:25,460
the planning department and the board. These are simple measures that will not affect

1750
02:31:25,460 --> 02:31:27,680
price, energy savings, or security. Thank you.

1751
02:31:31,040 --> 02:31:31,940
Is that the end of it?

1752
02:31:32,480 --> 02:31:33,380
That is the end, yes.

1753
02:31:33,380 --> 02:31:37,100
Okay. Thank you. Kind of guessing. I appreciate that.

1754
02:31:38,000 --> 02:31:40,180
Oh, I'm sorry. We have a couple more comments. I'm sorry.

1755
02:31:40,580 --> 02:31:40,980
That's okay.

1756
02:31:41,160 --> 02:31:42,520
That was the end of that particular comment.

1757
02:31:44,500 --> 02:31:46,000
And then we have four more.

1758
02:31:47,120 --> 02:31:49,800
The next comment is from the League of Women Voters.

1759
02:31:51,520 --> 02:31:55,360
It is titled Public Comments for the Glen Ellen Plan Commission meeting November 12, 2020.

1760
02:31:56,400 --> 02:32:02,000
In light of the newly published draft of the Glen Ellen Comprehensive Plan and the positions held by the League of Women Voters Glen Ellen.

1761
02:32:02,000 --> 02:32:04,560
Thank you for the opportunity to provide the following comments.

1762
02:32:05,080 --> 02:32:08,760
The League of Women Voters of Glen Ellin is strongly committed to the act of civic engagement

1763
02:32:08,760 --> 02:32:09,420
in our community.

1764
02:32:10,200 --> 02:32:13,820
Based on that important tenet, we are asking the Glen Ellin Planning Commission to not

1765
02:32:13,820 --> 02:32:16,920
only evaluate the new holiday development plan with station at the Machesney and Miller

1766
02:32:16,920 --> 02:32:21,080
location based on the prescribed village codes but also whether it meets the present

1767
02:32:21,080 --> 02:32:22,420
and future housing needs of the village.

1768
02:32:23,120 --> 02:32:27,620
The newly designed, the newly released draft of the comprehensive plan speaks

1769
02:32:27,620 --> 02:32:31,260
to not only opening opportunities for high density development that can form with

1770
02:32:31,260 --> 02:32:35,400
surrounding character of buildings but also that it promote attainable housing and a variety of

1771
02:32:35,400 --> 02:32:39,760
price points to address the financial needs of seniors, young professionals, new families,

1772
02:32:40,040 --> 02:32:44,120
as well as workers in our local retail and service industries. It is important to provide this

1773
02:32:44,120 --> 02:32:48,540
developer and others with a clear message that a variety of price points matter and can be

1774
02:32:48,540 --> 02:32:53,060
maintained in a development, though a collaborative effort with the village. We

1775
02:32:53,060 --> 02:32:56,560
include a section of the village's draft of this new comprehensive plan that speaks clearly

1776
02:32:56,560 --> 02:33:01,960
to this issue and then they quoted a section of the comprehensive plan that reads promote

1777
02:33:01,960 --> 02:33:06,840
mixed income development provided for affordable attainable housing as future developments occur.

1778
02:33:07,240 --> 02:33:11,760
The village should also consider dot to dot promote higher density residential development

1779
02:33:11,760 --> 02:33:16,380
that provides housing for a variety of income levels. Such mixed income development allows

1780
02:33:16,380 --> 02:33:20,760
lower income families to be included within and among higher income residents rather than

1781
02:33:20,760 --> 02:33:25,440
concentrating into one area. This is supported by an inclusive stable and diverse community

1782
02:33:25,440 --> 02:33:27,700
and creates desirable attainable housing options

1783
02:33:27,700 --> 02:33:30,240
that blend in the village's urban fabric.

1784
02:33:31,320 --> 02:33:33,400
Incentives to encourage developers

1785
02:33:33,400 --> 02:33:35,640
to incorporate a percentage of the low market rate,

1786
02:33:35,760 --> 02:33:37,160
affordable units should be promoted,

1787
02:33:37,540 --> 02:33:39,080
such as fee waivers, tax abatements,

1788
02:33:39,380 --> 02:33:41,540
and expedited approval into a higher density,

1789
02:33:41,700 --> 02:33:43,500
mixed income residential development.

1790
02:33:44,060 --> 02:33:45,320
Thank you for your consideration.

1791
02:33:45,960 --> 02:33:48,300
And then it's from Kristin B. Malone

1792
02:33:48,300 --> 02:33:49,320
and Erica Nelson,

1793
02:33:49,800 --> 02:33:51,480
Co-presidents of the League of Women Voters.

1794
02:33:52,580 --> 02:33:53,140
Okay.

1795
02:33:56,400 --> 02:34:00,000
This one is from Jamie Simonette.

1796
02:34:01,060 --> 02:34:03,720
Just a moment. I believe that Jamie is on also,

1797
02:34:04,160 --> 02:34:07,540
and I just would like to see if he would rather speak to the plan commission.

1798
02:34:08,200 --> 02:34:08,220
Sure.

1799
02:34:09,320 --> 02:34:10,640
Maybe he has gotten off.

1800
02:34:12,630 --> 02:34:14,210
Unless he's JJ S.

1801
02:34:14,790 --> 02:34:15,050
He might.

1802
02:34:15,450 --> 02:34:18,770
It's actually Daniel Simonite. So yeah, that's him.

1803
02:34:19,490 --> 02:34:22,010
Jamie, would you like to speak to the plan commission directly?

1804
02:34:22,010 --> 02:34:26,250
If so, please raise your zoom hand. If not, we'll go ahead and read your comment into the record.

1805
02:34:28,760 --> 02:34:32,380
And I don't see a hand, so go ahead and proceed full.

1806
02:34:32,900 --> 02:34:39,840
Perfect. I am disappointed that what is proposed is basically a carbon copy of what is currently being constructed on Main Street.

1807
02:34:40,300 --> 02:34:44,500
Another oversized apartment complex that does not fit into our village's downtown vernacular.

1808
02:34:44,500 --> 02:34:54,500
What I find hard to understand is how far this project progressed when it does not comply with the village's current C5B zoning, or come close to what is described in the comprehensive plan adopted in 2001.

1809
02:34:55,400 --> 02:35:03,860
A quick study of the posted first floor plan reveals a project that denies the public pedestrian level among Crescent Boulevard of any retail spaces or store funds.

1810
02:35:04,580 --> 02:35:10,640
The South Sun facing facade is 318 feet long, but does not provide a single public community or business opportunity.

1811
02:35:10,640 --> 02:35:17,140
The developer is using a 60-foot frontage at the prime intersection of Crescent and Glenwood for the apartment lobby.

1812
02:35:17,700 --> 02:35:24,360
The remaining 258 linear feet is nothing but a blank wall with two exhaust vents and two 25-foot wide overhead doors,

1813
02:35:24,620 --> 02:35:27,080
providing access to the parking garage and hides below.

1814
02:35:28,080 --> 02:35:31,280
The only retail space on the property is north on Glenwood off of the Boulevard.

1815
02:35:31,680 --> 02:35:38,200
The 100 linear feet of this facade is divided between the building's lobby and a minuscule 55 feet of retail.

1816
02:35:38,200 --> 02:35:44,720
retail. How can only 12% of the structures public facade be dedicated to retail in our

1817
02:35:44,720 --> 02:35:51,600
downtown central business district be deemed acceptable? That's 428.70 feet total of furniture

1818
02:35:51,600 --> 02:35:56,900
divided by 55 feet of proposed retail. Please insist that the developer excavate down another

1819
02:35:56,900 --> 02:36:02,900
level and relocate the proposed street level parking so that the west end of Crescent

1820
02:36:02,900 --> 02:36:07,560
Boulevard can become a vibrant extension of our downtown in lieu of a lifeless

1821
02:36:07,560 --> 02:36:12,180
dead end. As a business owner here in town, I am pro-development, but I ask that the village

1822
02:36:12,180 --> 02:36:16,520
enforce our zoning laws, provide variations that are only minor in nature, and make a

1823
02:36:16,520 --> 02:36:21,200
common sense when driven by irregularities in pre-existing, non-conforming conditions.

1824
02:36:22,100 --> 02:36:26,020
Variations awarded to new construction should be far and few between. As a Glen Island

1825
02:36:26,020 --> 02:36:30,380
homeowner since 1995, I believe we deserve better. Please do not slam this through

1826
02:36:30,380 --> 02:36:31,080
like this predecessor.

1827
02:36:32,340 --> 02:36:39,620
We have one more comment. This one is from Peggy Oduhaven at 771 Revere Road.

1828
02:36:40,640 --> 02:36:45,500
We have been happy residents here for 28 years. I think our time would benefit from this development.

1829
02:36:46,180 --> 02:36:48,620
The building is attractive and blends well with the existing buildings.

1830
02:36:49,220 --> 02:36:53,060
Occupants would have range from young professionals who need to be near the train for transitioning residents,

1831
02:36:53,620 --> 02:36:56,200
looking to downsize from their larger glenone homes.

1832
02:36:56,640 --> 02:36:59,440
It will provide additional parking and amenities residents can utilize.

1833
02:36:59,980 --> 02:37:02,680
Introducing younger residents to our wonderful town and all it has to offer

1834
02:37:02,680 --> 02:37:08,040
promotes future home sales as well, win-win Glen Ellen. And that is all the

1835
02:37:08,040 --> 02:37:14,320
written comments. Thank you. Okay Cole, thank you very much. I there is one comment

1836
02:37:14,320 --> 02:37:19,820
especially about the up lighting. I would you know if you like to address it

1837
02:37:19,820 --> 02:37:25,000
or respond to that that would be great. I know that would be true or is that

1838
02:37:25,000 --> 02:37:26,580
would be Chris?

1839
02:37:33,860 --> 02:37:39,460
I admire the desire to reduce and eliminate light pollution. I

1840
02:37:39,460 --> 02:37:47,580
actually share that generally. I also love the light buildings that are

1841
02:37:47,580 --> 02:37:52,320
beautiful and so you know my sense is I do know that there are some my

1842
02:37:52,320 --> 02:37:55,800
up lighting elements and the sconces on I believe the south side of the

1843
02:37:55,800 --> 02:38:03,200
building and on the east side of the building. It's incorporated in the design. I don't think

1844
02:38:03,200 --> 02:38:12,240
it's excessive. I think it's appropriate for the site. I would be sad if we had to

1845
02:38:12,240 --> 02:38:17,300
eliminate it to be totally candid. But if it was something that is really a sticking

1846
02:38:17,300 --> 02:38:20,460
point, we could look at that. Chris, I'd invite you to weigh in.

1847
02:38:21,700 --> 02:38:27,320
Yeah this is something that you know we've we've looked at like I said we've we

1848
02:38:27,320 --> 02:38:34,820
feel the nighttime view is just as important as the day you know ways this

1849
02:38:34,820 --> 02:38:38,980
has been handled you know in other spots is these turn off at a certain time at

1850
02:38:38,980 --> 02:38:45,100
night you know maybe it's 10 o'clock at night they do turn turn off you know

1851
02:38:45,100 --> 02:38:56,860
And, you know, this is again, part of the feel of the building that we felt at night it was important to give it a glow. It's going to be on a prominent corner.

1852
02:38:58,560 --> 02:39:00,100
Okay. All right. Thank you.

1853
02:39:02,860 --> 02:39:03,220
All right.

1854
02:39:05,480 --> 02:39:14,200
I've got a little note from Stacy here because she passed it to me about the affordable housing if Kelly or Katie wanted to comment about that.

1855
02:39:15,840 --> 02:39:24,820
Sure, I'd be happy to. So the village actually is in compliance with the Illinois Affordable

1856
02:39:24,820 --> 02:39:32,220
Housing Planning and Appeal Act that was adopted in 2003. That law required local governments

1857
02:39:32,220 --> 02:39:38,620
and communities greater than a thousand in population to provide at least 10% of their

1858
02:39:38,620 --> 02:39:44,640
total year on housing stock to be affordable and then they benchmark

1859
02:39:44,640 --> 02:39:52,520
affordability based on 30% of your the area median income. The area median income

1860
02:39:52,520 --> 02:39:59,540
for the Chicago area as delineated by the Census Bureau, the Metropolitan

1861
02:39:59,540 --> 02:40:03,780
and statistical area is $63,327.

1862
02:40:04,980 --> 02:40:09,360
So affordable would be 30% of that.

1863
02:40:10,060 --> 02:40:16,100
The village does provide 15, almost 16%, 15.9% exactly

1864
02:40:16,380 --> 02:40:22,200
as of the 2018 Illinois Housing Development Authority report

1865
02:40:22,960 --> 02:40:25,420
which they prepare every five years

1866
02:40:25,420 --> 02:40:27,940
in accordance with the act they mentioned.

1867
02:40:27,940 --> 02:40:33,720
So, at this time, the village is not required to adopt an affordable housing plan and does

1868
02:40:33,720 --> 02:40:39,180
not have a policy in place, however, it is something that is of public interest as of

1869
02:40:39,180 --> 02:40:45,580
late and the village board actually plans to discuss it at their workshop next Monday.

1870
02:40:46,960 --> 02:40:52,100
So, at this time, this development is not specifically required to as the village doesn't

1871
02:40:52,100 --> 02:40:55,080
need or have a policy in place at this time.

1872
02:40:55,780 --> 02:40:56,300
Okay.

1873
02:40:56,480 --> 02:40:56,920
Thank you.

1874
02:41:00,380 --> 02:41:01,020
All right.

1875
02:41:01,140 --> 02:41:07,060
So at this time, I guess I'd like to invite anybody from the attendees who would have

1876
02:41:07,060 --> 02:41:13,420
an interest in speaking to the plan commission to raise your hand and one by one will call

1877
02:41:13,420 --> 02:41:16,400
on you and invite you to speak.

1878
02:41:16,960 --> 02:41:19,980
You'll have a three minute timeline.

1879
02:41:20,420 --> 02:41:21,820
You don't have to take the whole thing.

1880
02:41:21,820 --> 02:41:25,420
You can use any portion of that that you choose.

1881
02:41:26,160 --> 02:41:34,220
And I would ask that you use that your three minutes to offer new news to the plan commission,

1882
02:41:34,320 --> 02:41:38,260
because that's what our role here is to take new input and to assess it.

1883
02:41:38,680 --> 02:41:43,960
If you are agreeing with so that you can augment something that somebody else has said,

1884
02:41:44,780 --> 02:41:46,620
you don't have to repeat everything they've said.

1885
02:41:46,720 --> 02:41:50,360
You could just let us know that you agree with what they've said.

1886
02:41:50,360 --> 02:41:55,080
So anyway, is there anybody in the attendee group that has an interest in speaking to the

1887
02:41:55,080 --> 02:41:56,220
plan commission at this time?

1888
02:41:56,520 --> 02:41:58,040
Please raise your Zoom hand.

1889
02:42:07,220 --> 02:42:15,860
Chairman Locke, I see one hand so far from Kelly Mildren, and I am going to allow her

1890
02:42:15,860 --> 02:42:16,360
to speak.

1891
02:42:17,760 --> 02:42:22,300
Kelly, you are now able to speak and you've unmuted yourself, so you can go ahead.

1892
02:42:22,420 --> 02:42:23,260
Please be reminded.

1893
02:42:23,260 --> 02:42:29,460
Did we, we allow for the three minutes and we'll let you know when that's up, if you get close to that point.

1894
02:42:30,960 --> 02:42:37,580
Good evening, Kelly. I'd like you to first introduce yourself. Tell us, we know your name, but tell us your address and then go ahead and speak.

1895
02:42:38,340 --> 02:42:45,840
Good morning or good evening everybody. My name is Kelly Mildren new resident to Glen Ellen at 313 Hill Avenue.

1896
02:42:46,560 --> 02:42:51,600
I just wanted to echo my support of this new development.

1897
02:42:51,860 --> 02:42:53,200
She needs to be sworn in.

1898
02:42:54,540 --> 02:42:55,900
She needs to be sworn in.

1899
02:42:55,980 --> 02:42:56,660
Yes, you do.

1900
02:42:57,060 --> 02:42:57,880
Sorry about that, Kelly.

1901
02:42:58,900 --> 02:42:59,120
Okay.

1902
02:43:00,000 --> 02:43:02,600
So, Barb, could you please swear her in?

1903
02:43:03,480 --> 02:43:03,880
Yes.

1904
02:43:06,790 --> 02:43:09,150
Would you please state your name and address for the public record,

1905
02:43:09,170 --> 02:43:09,870
or you already did that.

1906
02:43:10,510 --> 02:43:10,690
Sorry.

1907
02:43:11,070 --> 02:43:14,790
Do you swear to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth?

1908
02:43:15,390 --> 02:43:15,970
Yes, I do.

1909
02:43:16,850 --> 02:43:17,430
Thank you.

1910
02:43:17,430 --> 02:43:18,690
Yeah, absolutely.

1911
02:43:19,490 --> 02:43:21,870
And thank you, Tracy, for reminding us of that.

1912
02:43:22,230 --> 02:43:23,370
Okay, go ahead, Kelly.

1913
02:43:24,790 --> 02:43:27,510
Yeah, so I just just, I've been listening to everything tonight.

1914
02:43:27,590 --> 02:43:35,430
I was really interested to see what these development plans were really how they're coming to fruition in the town.

1915
02:43:35,550 --> 02:43:43,430
And I think it's just a real value add for a lot of the things that everybody else has already kind of said.

1916
02:43:43,430 --> 02:43:49,570
but I just am a super strong feeling of this being a really great thing for the community.

1917
02:43:50,090 --> 02:43:55,750
I think it's a big value add for the downtown city center and we'll bring in some maybe commuters

1918
02:43:55,750 --> 02:44:01,810
that are looking to maybe leave the city younger families that are starting and hopefully will

1919
02:44:01,810 --> 02:44:08,550
be home buyers in Glen Ellinat future dates as well. So I just wanted to give a big thumbs up

1920
02:44:08,550 --> 02:44:10,270
that I'm a big supporter of this project.

1921
02:44:10,550 --> 02:44:13,170
All right, thank you very much for speaking.

1922
02:44:14,470 --> 02:44:15,990
All right, is there anybody else that?

1923
02:44:19,440 --> 02:44:22,380
Chairman Locke, I do not see any more hands.

1924
02:44:23,020 --> 02:44:28,300
Okay, given that, then I guess we could have a motion

1925
02:44:28,300 --> 02:44:29,780
to close the public hearing.

1926
02:44:30,720 --> 02:44:31,580
So moved.

1927
02:44:32,260 --> 02:44:33,320
And I need a second.

1928
02:44:35,240 --> 02:44:35,740
Second.

1929
02:44:35,740 --> 02:44:43,940
All right. Barb, we have a motion by Commissioner Heming-Litwin and a second by Commissioner

1930
02:44:43,940 --> 02:44:47,820
Hemmel-Heron. May I have a roll call vote, please, to close the public hearing?

1931
02:44:48,480 --> 02:44:54,300
Yes. Plan Commissioner Hemming-Litwin. Yes.

1932
02:44:54,300 --> 02:44:55,720
Yes.

1933
02:44:55,720 --> 02:44:57,620
Thank you Commissioner Mulherin.

1934
02:44:57,980 --> 02:44:58,340
Yes.

1935
02:45:00,110 --> 02:45:02,130
Chairperson Locke. Yes.

1936
02:45:02,710 --> 02:45:05,330
Planned Commissioner Brown. Yes.

1937
02:45:06,130 --> 02:45:08,830
Planned Commissioner Fanella. Yes.

1938
02:45:09,850 --> 02:45:12,870
Planned Commissioner Rodiman. Yes.

1939
02:45:13,970 --> 02:45:16,350
Planned Commissioner Said. Yes.

1940
02:45:17,190 --> 02:45:20,130
Planned Commissioner Van Druska. Yes.

1941
02:45:23,450 --> 02:45:27,510
The motion to close the public hearing passes. All right. Thank you very much.

1942
02:45:27,990 --> 02:45:31,350
All right, we're into the portion of plan commission deliberations.

1943
02:45:31,610 --> 02:45:34,650
Does anybody want to start us off with their thoughts on this project?

1944
02:45:37,620 --> 02:45:39,380
Mr. Mulherin, you are unmuted.

1945
02:45:40,180 --> 02:45:41,000
Be my guest.

1946
02:45:41,320 --> 02:45:46,200
Well, I, I, you know, I'm always leading off and I, but I'll, I'll, I'll take a shot at it.

1947
02:45:47,340 --> 02:45:49,940
Not always leading up, but I get stuck in it sometimes.

1948
02:45:50,420 --> 02:45:51,780
Yeah, yeah, we all do.

1949
02:45:52,120 --> 02:45:52,380
Yeah.

1950
02:45:52,760 --> 02:45:53,200
Okay.

1951
02:45:54,360 --> 02:45:56,720
Very much in favor of this project.

1952
02:45:56,720 --> 02:46:01,860
And I was just looking at the exceptions.

1953
02:46:02,580 --> 02:46:08,680
I suppose the largest one to address, two is heightened parking.

1954
02:46:09,360 --> 02:46:15,600
I think parking is extremely adequate, as we've seen in, you know, the petitioner didn't

1955
02:46:15,600 --> 02:46:21,320
discuss it, but auto ownership is actually declining on a per capita basis in this country.

1956
02:46:21,320 --> 02:46:31,040
And I think we're moving, we're moving to more time-sharing arrangements and it didn't mention it, but, but we have a enterprise

1957
02:46:31,040 --> 02:46:37,080
standardized in town that you can lease, lease a car by the hour or whatever if you want.

1958
02:46:37,900 --> 02:46:41,820
The height, I think, I have no difficulty with this.

1959
02:46:41,920 --> 02:46:46,020
I think it's an outstanding project and I kind of agree.

1960
02:46:46,260 --> 02:46:51,060
I think the, actually, while it might be made slight variance

1961
02:46:51,060 --> 02:46:53,740
for it, I don't think the spirit of the height,

1962
02:46:53,840 --> 02:46:57,660
the height condition is met.

1963
02:46:58,140 --> 02:47:03,200
In terms of the other things, the corner side yard setback,

1964
02:47:03,380 --> 02:47:04,540
I have no difficulty with that.

1965
02:47:04,540 --> 02:47:13,560
the front yard setback, not having a setback from the higher up, the emergency generator

1966
02:47:13,560 --> 02:47:19,960
equipment and the lot coverage ratio I'm absolutely fine with. I don't think that.

1967
02:47:20,080 --> 02:47:30,860
I think this adds a great deal to this site, which has been clear, has been a very challenging

1968
02:47:30,860 --> 02:47:34,100
And this is going to be a good result.

1969
02:47:34,280 --> 02:47:37,780
And I think it will really stimulate some other good things in the community.

1970
02:47:38,420 --> 02:47:39,620
All right. Thank you, John.

1971
02:47:40,080 --> 02:47:41,300
Chairman Locke.

1972
02:47:41,420 --> 02:47:41,500
Yeah.

1973
02:47:41,800 --> 02:47:43,680
I think there might be some other feedback.

1974
02:47:44,080 --> 02:47:48,920
The staff was looking for related to some of the appearance.

1975
02:47:49,920 --> 02:47:50,400
Elements.

1976
02:47:50,860 --> 02:47:52,900
Katie or Kelly, can you pop in and.

1977
02:47:55,410 --> 02:47:56,370
Refresh their memory.

1978
02:47:56,870 --> 02:47:57,350
Yes.

1979
02:47:57,930 --> 02:47:59,570
So I know it was.

1980
02:47:59,570 --> 02:48:08,150
I believe at the very tail end of your lengthy meeting packet, but there was a memo that

1981
02:48:08,150 --> 02:48:15,550
we had sent the petitioner following their receiving comments from the Glen Island Historic

1982
02:48:15,550 --> 02:48:21,530
Preservation Commission and the Glen Island Historical Society where we when we solicited

1983
02:48:21,530 --> 02:48:25,650
some feedback from the historic preservation community and there were some suggestions

1984
02:48:25,650 --> 02:48:32,410
that they had provided that I think the petitioner was they alluded to some of

1985
02:48:32,410 --> 02:48:36,830
it being added but I think they wanted to get the public's feedback and the

1986
02:48:36,830 --> 02:48:41,510
Plank mission's feedback and there's a condition of approval suggested

1987
02:48:41,510 --> 02:48:47,310
condition of approval that also speaks to that. So are there anything in

1988
02:48:47,310 --> 02:48:51,830
particular or just because I remember going through that list and there were

1989
02:48:51,830 --> 02:48:54,650
a lot of things and some of it was spoke to tonight but is there

1990
02:48:54,650 --> 02:48:58,190
or something that, is this an all or nothing

1991
02:48:58,190 --> 02:48:59,310
or specific pieces?

1992
02:49:00,050 --> 02:49:06,410
So we, as staff, we had thought that any increasing

1993
02:49:06,410 --> 02:49:08,450
parapet wall heights, for example,

1994
02:49:09,630 --> 02:49:14,070
any further investigation into enhancing the lighting

1995
02:49:14,630 --> 02:49:17,070
that's being installed, particularly along Creston.

1996
02:49:19,850 --> 02:49:23,030
They did mention the iron work

1997
02:49:23,030 --> 02:49:32,550
and the a possible public art piece. So I think they wanted to know if you weren't

1998
02:49:32,550 --> 02:49:39,630
concurring with that or if there was anything additional. Okay. Okay,

1999
02:49:43,650 --> 02:49:44,330
and that's

2000
02:49:44,330 --> 02:49:47,730
good. And the staff report, if anybody has that in front of them and it's a

2001
02:49:47,730 --> 02:49:50,250
little easier to read than the historical preservation letter at the

2002
02:49:50,250 --> 02:49:55,030
very end of the packet, but then that you're really talking to about item

2003
02:49:55,030 --> 02:49:58,790
number 12, which is the petition incorporating some additional design

2004
02:49:58,790 --> 02:50:02,210
details as recommended by the Historical Preservation Committee. That's what

2005
02:50:02,210 --> 02:50:06,710
you're talking about. Okay. Okay. Chairperson Locke, there were just a couple of

2006
02:50:06,710 --> 02:50:10,430
other things I wanted to note specifically that were talked about,

2007
02:50:10,550 --> 02:50:13,990
possibly integrating some more detail on the corners of the buildings,

2008
02:50:14,590 --> 02:50:17,730
possibly varying the heights of the cornices a little bit. One of the

2009
02:50:17,730 --> 02:50:21,330
comments that came up over and over again was breaking up the roof line because

2010
02:50:21,330 --> 02:50:25,770
they were saying it looked a bit flat. So they were recommending that maybe some

2011
02:50:25,770 --> 02:50:29,750
of the parapets be further deviated so that there was a little

2012
02:50:29,750 --> 02:50:34,070
bit of variation in the roof line. And then finally maybe a little bit more

2013
02:50:34,070 --> 02:50:39,090
of an intricate detail on the cornice is kind of a further final item that

2014
02:50:39,090 --> 02:50:42,670
staff thought out of all the comments from the HBC might might be

2015
02:50:42,670 --> 02:50:48,370
interesting to take a look at. Okay, now is that in any of our documentation that's

2016
02:50:48,370 --> 02:50:55,670
not in the letter? It's it's something that's easy for us to refer to. I'm just

2017
02:50:56,590 --> 02:51:01,010
I think it's just in the letter. Okay, okay, that's okay. I just wanted to know if

2018
02:51:01,010 --> 02:51:03,590
it was at elsewhere because sometimes they are they're summarized elsewhere. I

2019
02:51:03,590 --> 02:51:09,110
know Dave got all of that. I'm still writing it down. So we're gonna ask Dave

2020
02:51:09,110 --> 02:51:16,470
Dave to speak because he's going to have all that. So, I don't know if he wants to go next. Would you be willing to do so, David.

2021
02:51:22,760 --> 02:51:24,920
I can go next. Okay, thank you.

2022
02:51:25,320 --> 02:51:27,880
So speak directly to what were you asking.

2023
02:51:29,100 --> 02:51:32,440
I'm trying to follow. I mean, it was some of the recommendations.

2024
02:51:33,680 --> 02:51:39,900
It was just more of the, how did you feel about the recommendations from historical preservation

2025
02:51:39,900 --> 02:51:42,720
and any of the exterior appearance recommendations, too?

2026
02:51:43,520 --> 02:51:44,700
Can I help?

2027
02:51:44,940 --> 02:51:51,800
Maybe I can help and I can read the specific, like, five things they wanted us to address.

2028
02:51:52,020 --> 02:51:53,120
I have it right in front of me.

2029
02:51:53,440 --> 02:51:53,740
Okay.

2030
02:51:54,040 --> 02:51:59,580
And this is nice because, and Katie just put it up because it's very hard to read

2031
02:51:59,580 --> 02:52:02,580
if you're reading the package on your PC, at least for me it was.

2032
02:52:04,220 --> 02:52:10,580
So it's additional, some of the additional things to possibly include and to address,

2033
02:52:10,860 --> 02:52:16,580
adding detail to the building corners, varying the roof line by increasing the cornice heights,

2034
02:52:17,460 --> 02:52:24,160
incorporate public art and historical light fixtures. Okay. Those are the

2035
02:52:25,720 --> 02:52:29,120
five, five things, right?

2036
02:52:29,800 --> 02:52:37,100
Building corners, veering roofline, four things, incorporating public art and historic fixtures,

2037
02:52:37,540 --> 02:52:38,100
light fixtures.

2038
02:52:38,840 --> 02:52:39,260
Okay.

2039
02:52:41,810 --> 02:52:46,670
I mean, I can speak to, you know, the corner has.

2040
02:52:48,210 --> 02:52:48,490
Go ahead.

2041
02:52:49,780 --> 02:52:54,150
I just think we need to, we need to make sure we all talk about that and come to

2042
02:52:55,310 --> 02:53:02,030
of some kind of a consensus for if we're going to approve this to be part of a condition,

2043
02:53:02,330 --> 02:53:02,530
right?

2044
02:53:03,070 --> 02:53:03,310
Right.

2045
02:53:03,550 --> 02:53:04,350
That's what I believe.

2046
02:53:04,550 --> 02:53:05,410
And that's why I kind of-

2047
02:53:05,410 --> 02:53:05,610
Okay.

2048
02:53:06,150 --> 02:53:06,350
Yeah.

2049
02:53:06,950 --> 02:53:08,030
I mean, let David go.

2050
02:53:08,210 --> 02:53:09,910
I sense he's given it some thought.

2051
02:53:10,450 --> 02:53:10,930
Go ahead.

2052
02:53:10,930 --> 02:53:12,130
I mean, that's fine.

2053
02:53:12,410 --> 02:53:20,090
You know, I don't, I think some of the ideas are somewhat addressed in, you know,

2054
02:53:20,090 --> 02:53:30,090
the petitioner's presentation, some of the last slides of attempting to, you know, add

2055
02:53:30,090 --> 02:53:37,410
some of this detail, I think architecturally, you know, varying the roof line traditionally

2056
02:53:37,410 --> 02:53:42,870
would help break up a big volume like this. I don't think we're going to vary that roof

2057
02:53:42,870 --> 02:53:49,530
line that much to really make that much significant impact. I don't think you'll

2058
02:53:49,530 --> 02:53:58,670
necessarily see it a whole lot unless I just think it's a good idea so maybe we

2059
02:53:58,670 --> 02:54:03,330
say go ahead let's study it a little bit I think maybe to vary the profile of the

2060
02:54:03,330 --> 02:54:08,850
cornice along with varying the roofline height might actually have an impact

2061
02:54:08,850 --> 02:54:13,790
you'd start to see something that looks different on one day than on the other so

2062
02:54:13,790 --> 02:54:21,030
I would be in favor of that. As far as adding additional detail or opportunities for public

2063
02:54:21,030 --> 02:54:27,650
art, you know, I think the idea that we don't want blank walls, we're trying to animate

2064
02:54:27,650 --> 02:54:35,890
the street. I too, much like one of the public's comments, you know, that long wall

2065
02:54:35,890 --> 02:54:42,090
along the street, that that's very challenging. But I think the steps that the petitioner

2066
02:54:42,090 --> 02:54:50,130
has taken, obviously, from the previous presentation to now, I think it's quite a bit improved.

2067
02:54:51,670 --> 02:54:59,510
And I think the direction it's moving is in the right direction, so I can continue with

2068
02:54:59,510 --> 02:55:00,250
my other comments.

2069
02:55:00,650 --> 02:55:01,390
Yeah, go ahead.

2070
02:55:01,730 --> 02:55:02,230
Yes, please.

2071
02:55:02,590 --> 02:55:02,730
Okay.

2072
02:55:03,390 --> 02:55:10,690
You know, I do think, you know, I came into this tonight, still, I still feel that

2073
02:55:10,690 --> 02:55:18,490
the building's too big for the site. We limit our bulk in town by a couple things, by lot coverage

2074
02:55:18,490 --> 02:55:25,830
and building height. We don't use what they call FAR. We, you know, we, we have ways to limit buildings

2075
02:55:25,830 --> 02:55:32,610
as far as how they, you know, get fit in onto a site. And this building is certainly

2076
02:55:32,610 --> 02:55:38,410
a massive building for that size site.

2077
02:55:38,790 --> 02:55:42,050
However, you know, through the presentation

2078
02:55:42,050 --> 02:55:43,530
and the steps that this,

2079
02:55:43,710 --> 02:55:47,710
the petitioner and the architect here at,

2080
02:55:47,930 --> 02:55:49,090
they've made some nice,

2081
02:55:50,250 --> 02:55:52,750
they, I think they've improved what they had before

2082
02:55:53,330 --> 02:55:53,810
tremendously.

2083
02:55:54,290 --> 02:55:58,010
I think the setback and having the one story

2084
02:55:58,010 --> 02:55:59,910
project out along Crescent

2085
02:55:59,910 --> 02:56:01,490
and then pulling the building back

2086
02:56:01,490 --> 02:56:05,650
will really reduce the wall effect along Crescent.

2087
02:56:06,010 --> 02:56:09,290
I'm much less concerned about a pedestrian,

2088
02:56:10,290 --> 02:56:14,450
about the feel and the fact that I have terraces of bald.

2089
02:56:16,530 --> 02:56:19,290
I think the way that they've handled it

2090
02:56:19,290 --> 02:56:22,670
and still get this many units in this much parking,

2091
02:56:23,950 --> 02:56:27,270
I think they've done probably the best they can

2092
02:56:27,270 --> 02:56:29,250
with the conditions they have.

2093
02:56:29,250 --> 02:56:39,310
and I know it's an economic formula that comes up to make a project make sense or not make sense.

2094
02:56:39,670 --> 02:56:48,290
I mean, I do feel that coming up, we're still coming up short of retail space for what I would

2095
02:56:48,290 --> 02:56:54,770
prefer to see, but I don't want retail that's down on a tail end that's going to die either.

2096
02:56:54,770 --> 02:57:03,830
So, you know, I kind of worry, I think where they placed it and how they've animated the street and what they've done on the second floor.

2097
02:57:04,970 --> 02:57:09,670
I think it's all in the right direction. So I applaud them for that.

2098
02:57:10,370 --> 02:57:15,410
I'm not, and I'm still uneasy about the ball.

2099
02:57:19,440 --> 02:57:21,100
Okay, my comments.

2100
02:57:21,660 --> 02:57:22,040
Okay.

2101
02:57:23,980 --> 02:57:27,280
Anybody else from the Planned Commission like to make a comment at this point?

2102
02:57:28,660 --> 02:57:33,420
And again, I cannot, I can only see half the group here with my view because of the.

2103
02:57:34,140 --> 02:57:34,820
Mary, I think.

2104
02:57:35,940 --> 02:57:36,860
Okay, go ahead.

2105
02:57:40,420 --> 02:57:44,660
I actually really like the way this project turned out as the iteration has gone from

2106
02:57:44,660 --> 02:57:47,600
the pre-op to the current one that we've seen today.

2107
02:57:47,600 --> 02:57:55,580
I think the petitioner for taking our opinions and our ideas into account and I think that

2108
02:57:55,580 --> 02:58:01,160
anything that you can't incorporate from the historic point of view and those little details

2109
02:58:01,160 --> 02:58:05,420
that make it a little more like Glen Allen and a little less cookie cutter would be appreciated

2110
02:58:05,420 --> 02:58:10,120
but I don't want to dictate anything to the architecture of the building.

2111
02:58:10,900 --> 02:58:12,200
That makes sense.

2112
02:58:13,760 --> 02:58:20,900
I think this building has a city feel I really like with the big second floor balconies overlooking the street, the way it's lit up.

2113
02:58:22,040 --> 02:58:28,900
And the drop off area was a great idea and just want to make sure that we do have that requirement to post the 15 minute signs.

2114
02:58:30,800 --> 02:58:38,080
And I think this moves us closer to our goal of 450 new residential units to downtown.

2115
02:58:38,700 --> 02:58:42,760
And we've approved the project by the library main street project.

2116
02:58:42,960 --> 02:58:49,820
And this just gets us a little bit closer by my math where this will get us to 241 of that 450 units.

2117
02:58:50,140 --> 02:58:51,820
So we're moving towards that goal.

2118
02:58:53,200 --> 02:59:02,480
I'm comfortable with all of the conditions for the plan, and I think I touched on everything

2119
02:59:02,480 --> 02:59:05,860
that the staff has asked us to talk about, so if I missed anything, let me know.

2120
02:59:06,900 --> 02:59:07,360
Okay.

2121
02:59:07,560 --> 02:59:08,380
Thank you very much.

2122
02:59:10,120 --> 02:59:12,820
Who else would like to offer your thoughts?

2123
02:59:13,320 --> 02:59:13,600
Hey, Jamie.

2124
02:59:14,180 --> 02:59:14,800
I'll chime in.

2125
02:59:15,200 --> 02:59:15,460
Please.

2126
02:59:16,860 --> 02:59:19,100
You know, these projects are so hard, right?

2127
02:59:19,100 --> 02:59:24,520
you know this is a big project it's in an interesting location I think versus

2128
02:59:24,520 --> 02:59:30,520
say the Main Street project where it's in a location where that property sat for

2129
02:59:30,520 --> 02:59:36,220
a long period of time it is really long it is a narrow piece of property so it's

2130
02:59:36,220 --> 02:59:42,980
a little awkward I think the fact that it sits a little lower is extremely

2131
02:59:42,980 --> 02:59:46,260
helpful in the overall we're considering the height of the building

2132
02:59:46,260 --> 02:59:52,940
right? I mean, if we can build a 60 feet and the elevator tops are at seven feet higher than that,

2133
02:59:53,420 --> 02:59:59,940
I don't really have a problem with that part of it. I walked around that area earlier than the

2134
03:00:01,820 --> 03:00:09,440
I think, you know, you get torn right between trying to do what's right for the village, trying

2135
03:00:09,440 --> 03:00:16,700
to also advance, you know, hopefully trying to do something good for the village financially

2136
03:00:17,620 --> 03:00:24,240
and then help grow the village, you know, historically. We've talked about, you know, the style of

2137
03:00:24,240 --> 03:00:29,140
this town and the charm of this town and I don't, it would hate to see anything happen

2138
03:00:29,140 --> 03:00:35,640
to that at the same time I think you know there is a patch quilt of different styles in this town

2139
03:00:36,320 --> 03:00:41,920
when you look at the architecture over time right it's not like Galena where everything

2140
03:00:41,920 --> 03:00:50,300
happened in a 10-year period so I think you know overall I like the project I'm okay with the

2141
03:00:50,300 --> 03:00:55,280
height I think some of the things a petitioner brought up tonight I appreciate or do appreciate

2142
03:00:55,280 --> 03:01:02,420
the amount of detail and time they took all you guys to try and accommodate all

2143
03:01:02,420 --> 03:01:08,560
the input and some of the character of the town and some of the architectural

2144
03:01:08,560 --> 03:01:15,040
elements let's call them I guess. And overall I'm in support of the project. I

2145
03:01:15,040 --> 03:01:19,460
am not totally sure how we go about incorporating some of the things they

2146
03:01:19,460 --> 03:01:26,700
put in their presentation into this but overall you know I'm okay with the

2147
03:01:26,700 --> 03:01:31,840
project I think they put a lot of time and effort into trying to accommodate

2148
03:01:31,840 --> 03:01:37,540
and seek input from various groups into this project I think the retail end of

2149
03:01:37,540 --> 03:01:41,780
it is tough looking at my notes you know part of the problem with Main Street

2150
03:01:41,780 --> 03:01:45,360
is you had retail and parking on the first floor right and you had to move

2151
03:01:45,360 --> 03:01:48,920
all the residential parking to the second floor once you've done that you

2152
03:01:48,920 --> 03:01:56,840
have any residential, your first floor, first floor of full units is a third floor. So in this case

2153
03:01:56,840 --> 03:02:02,100
you've got a lower parking level and you have a mid-level parking, and I think trying to accommodate

2154
03:02:02,100 --> 03:02:08,260
more retail, which would be ideal, but it would be really hard to do without giving up parking

2155
03:02:08,260 --> 03:02:12,380
and then having to find a place to put that, which seems crazy when you have a building that

2156
03:02:12,380 --> 03:02:18,200
long, but it it's just kind of just, I guess, how I logically was trying to break it down

2157
03:02:18,200 --> 03:02:24,720
when I was looking at it and I agree like David said if there's anything we can do that crescent

2158
03:02:24,720 --> 03:02:31,060
side is obviously the longest part of that building it is going to be the most obvious part that needs

2159
03:02:31,060 --> 03:02:36,180
probably the most breaking up because this is the most visible so anything we can do to soften

2160
03:02:36,180 --> 03:02:40,560
that you know would be great and if there's architectural elements or historical elements

2161
03:02:41,180 --> 03:02:46,400
that can be incorporated into that I think it'd be great but yeah okay that's about the extent

2162
03:02:46,400 --> 03:02:50,680
of my notes. All right, Jamie, thank you very much. All right, Tracy, go ahead.

2163
03:02:53,540 --> 03:03:01,840
I really appreciate that the developer did take a lot of what we talked about back in May,

2164
03:03:02,520 --> 03:03:09,320
and I like Angela in looking at, we for years have been saying we need these types of units

2165
03:03:09,960 --> 03:03:16,780
within Glen Allen you know whether it be empty nesters or younger people places

2166
03:03:16,780 --> 03:03:22,080
for them to be part of the village and you know the site has set vacant for so

2167
03:03:22,080 --> 03:03:29,520
long that you know it's it's there's taxes being paid but there could be a

2168
03:03:29,520 --> 03:03:37,800
lot more taxes being paid by developing the site and you know again I

2169
03:03:37,800 --> 03:03:44,160
We know somebody recommended that they dig two stories down to put in parking at a second

2170
03:03:44,160 --> 03:03:49,820
level, you know, both of them below grade, which we've had numerous discussions in the

2171
03:03:49,820 --> 03:03:56,660
past on other developments that that's just not something people want to do is to drive

2172
03:03:56,660 --> 03:03:58,900
two grades down if they're living in a building.

2173
03:03:59,780 --> 03:04:03,360
And so the retail piece of it is, is limited.

2174
03:04:03,360 --> 03:04:03,500
it.

2175
03:04:03,660 --> 03:04:09,220
I think they could put something in there that's sorely missing in Gledon.

2176
03:04:09,700 --> 03:04:14,440
I think they mentioned possibly a high-end deli, which I think would be great.

2177
03:04:15,680 --> 03:04:23,500
Maybe some kind of a bakery or something, something that we don't have and can be there

2178
03:04:23,500 --> 03:04:28,760
and move to that, you know, bring people into that area.

2179
03:04:29,760 --> 03:04:43,660
I appreciate the fact that I personally like what they've done with colors and that they've put black windows in and are trying to bring in some of the iron elements on the outside that they already have there.

2180
03:04:44,320 --> 03:04:58,280
I also believe that along Crescent we do need to have something, you know, they did break it up so it's not just the same wall all along they have different areas but it would be nice maybe if they could do something.

2181
03:04:59,280 --> 03:05:01,440
Again, I'm just going to put it out there.

2182
03:05:04,220 --> 03:05:09,560
Murals are fine, but over time, you know, they need upkeep.

2183
03:05:10,140 --> 03:05:16,360
So it's, you know, whatever's being done, I would like it to mean something to Glenn

2184
03:05:16,360 --> 03:05:20,580
Allen but not be something that is initially done and then not kept up.

2185
03:05:21,860 --> 03:05:26,440
You know, maybe it is adding some iron work into that area.

2186
03:05:26,440 --> 03:05:33,100
But the one thing I will say is, because I've walked that path a lot in my lifetime here,

2187
03:05:34,120 --> 03:05:40,580
in Glen Allen, I think by them giving those parking spaces back and making that sidewalk wider

2188
03:05:40,580 --> 03:05:46,360
than it was, is going to be helpful even though there is going to be a solid wall against Crescent.

2189
03:05:46,960 --> 03:05:54,260
Because that was a very narrow sidewalk due to the fact of people having the parking,

2190
03:05:54,260 --> 03:06:01,260
parking, the inlet parking along there. So from that standpoint, I'm okay with the

2191
03:06:01,260 --> 03:06:07,380
lighting. I know I'm a big proponent of not having a ton of lighting around, but I

2192
03:06:07,380 --> 03:06:13,100
think the way the lighting is done and if it's, if there is a way to turn off certain

2193
03:06:13,100 --> 03:06:18,740
types of those lights to make it darker at a certain time of the day, I think it's

2194
03:06:18,740 --> 03:06:22,360
something we should do. But on the other hand, I also think that area needs some

2195
03:06:22,360 --> 03:06:30,760
lighting for safety reasons from that standpoint. So, if I'm going to go look at the four things,

2196
03:06:31,040 --> 03:06:36,380
the Historic Preservation Commission and the Glen Island Historical Society,

2197
03:06:38,900 --> 03:06:48,840
the roofline, again, I think David said maybe having some more, not necessarily height,

2198
03:06:48,840 --> 03:06:56,020
but more detail to it. And Commissioner Rodman, if I'm misspeaking, I would agree with you there.

2199
03:06:59,960 --> 03:07:06,040
And, you know, again, any way we can do some kind of bringing in some history to Glenelon to

2200
03:07:06,040 --> 03:07:10,320
that outside of that building, I think it's fine. I think we have to be careful, though,

2201
03:07:10,400 --> 03:07:14,940
about telling them to go with this saying it has to be a historical light fixture.

2202
03:07:16,080 --> 03:07:25,440
I just don't know if I want to get that specific with them, and that would be what I have to input.

2203
03:07:26,180 --> 03:07:27,900
Okay, thank you very much.

2204
03:07:29,960 --> 03:07:41,180
I am in support of this project because it meets the intent of our comprehensive plan, multi-units with the commercial space.

2205
03:07:41,180 --> 03:07:44,680
But the commercial space is not enough.

2206
03:07:45,500 --> 03:07:50,380
And also the parking for the commercial is my big concern.

2207
03:07:51,220 --> 03:07:56,920
Because they cannot do any parking on the, I think Glenwood Road.

2208
03:07:57,800 --> 03:08:05,140
And it will be difficult for the customers who come to this commercial place.

2209
03:08:06,760 --> 03:08:16,920
Overall, I think this project meets our comprehensive plan requirements and I am in support of that.

2210
03:08:17,100 --> 03:08:31,080
Though it looks very long on the glimmer, on the crescent, but I think the architect and the developer has done a fantastic work.

2211
03:08:31,080 --> 03:08:37,000
work, it looks very beautiful in that area. Though it is alone. I mean, I'm in support.

2212
03:08:38,240 --> 03:08:43,780
All right. Thank you, Mohammed. Okay. Laura, did you want to join in on anything?

2213
03:08:46,540 --> 03:08:47,020
Sure.

2214
03:08:49,680 --> 03:08:57,850
I'm supportive of this project. I think all of the everything that they've

2215
03:08:57,850 --> 03:09:03,170
done since May has really made it a lot more appealing. I like all the changes to the

2216
03:09:03,170 --> 03:09:10,350
more side of the building. I really think the step back on the

2217
03:09:11,150 --> 03:09:19,410
present side is nice. I think that this building achieves a

2218
03:09:19,410 --> 03:09:22,910
goal of keeping retaining current Glen Allen residents,

2219
03:09:23,250 --> 03:09:26,730
homeowners, this gives them an option to maybe downsize, sell

2220
03:09:26,730 --> 03:09:31,910
their home and but still stay in the community. And also

2221
03:09:31,910 --> 03:09:38,950
attract new younger residents that are looking to explore the option of buying in the suburbs

2222
03:09:38,950 --> 03:09:46,490
but want to try out renting first. I love the idea of McChesney deli. I hope the McChesney

2223
03:09:46,490 --> 03:09:53,710
family would grant that request. And overall, I think it's a great addition to the town.

2224
03:09:54,430 --> 03:10:01,410
All right. Thank you very much. I agree and with a lot of the things my fellow commissioners

2225
03:10:01,410 --> 03:10:10,030
said. I like that step back in Crescent. I think that adds a really neat personality to the building.

2226
03:10:10,710 --> 03:10:15,990
I love what Laura just said about the deli. I thought the idea of a McChesney deli was just

2227
03:10:15,990 --> 03:10:20,830
wonderful. And it really, you know, if you used, if you were able to pull that off

2228
03:10:21,410 --> 03:10:26,870
and use some of the old signs from McChesneys, that would be, it would be so fun. I think that'd

2229
03:10:26,870 --> 03:10:33,010
need. I really want to thank the petitioner for just, you know, investing the time and energy

2230
03:10:33,010 --> 03:10:38,130
at this point in Glenelon and your interest in Glenelon. And also, I want to thank you for working

2231
03:10:38,130 --> 03:10:46,170
with the historical preservation group. And please do incorporate their suggestions as much as

2232
03:10:46,170 --> 03:10:55,030
you can. They have, you know, I know that sometimes I don't feel like I am the expert on

2233
03:10:55,030 --> 03:11:00,450
architectural renderings, even though we're to give the exterior appearance review. But there's

2234
03:11:00,450 --> 03:11:05,810
those that I worked with the architecture group and the historical preservation and those folks

2235
03:11:05,810 --> 03:11:09,130
do know what they're talking about. So I really appreciate you continuing to work with them.

2236
03:11:10,110 --> 03:11:16,650
And so I am in support of this project. And thank you very much for your time tonight.

2237
03:11:17,090 --> 03:11:21,590
I think what we need now, based on what I'm hearing from my fellow plan commissioners,

2238
03:11:21,590 --> 03:11:25,170
is a motion to approve this project.

2239
03:11:25,690 --> 03:11:27,430
Mary, can I just add one more comment?

2240
03:11:27,750 --> 03:11:28,250
Yes, please.

2241
03:11:29,290 --> 03:11:30,830
We didn't mention staff,

2242
03:11:31,210 --> 03:11:33,910
because I think the work that staff has done

2243
03:11:33,910 --> 03:11:36,770
on this project is absolutely outstanding.

2244
03:11:37,090 --> 03:11:39,210
And I want to congratulate all of you.

2245
03:11:39,370 --> 03:11:41,930
I think it's, they brought the developer

2246
03:11:41,930 --> 03:11:43,010
along as we've acknowledged.

2247
03:11:43,370 --> 03:11:45,390
And I don't think we wouldn't,

2248
03:11:45,510 --> 03:11:47,930
we wouldn't, you know, they're making,

2249
03:11:48,130 --> 03:11:49,870
they're making this possible, I think.

2250
03:11:49,870 --> 03:11:51,770
So I appreciate it.

2251
03:11:51,810 --> 03:11:55,010
All right, and I will echo Mr. Moharin's comments.

2252
03:11:55,130 --> 03:11:56,710
So thank you very much to all the staff

2253
03:11:57,490 --> 03:11:58,870
for all your hard work in this.

2254
03:12:00,210 --> 03:12:03,830
So that motion, I guess I have a question

2255
03:12:03,830 --> 03:12:06,330
because we have a draft motion and support.

2256
03:12:06,910 --> 03:12:09,130
And then we also have the findings of FACT,

2257
03:12:09,250 --> 03:12:10,910
which is a five-page document.

2258
03:12:11,530 --> 03:12:15,090
Can we somehow summarize this five-page document

2259
03:12:15,090 --> 03:12:18,890
or do you really need us to go through this?

2260
03:12:19,510 --> 03:12:21,670
I don't think we need to read it, correct?

2261
03:12:22,290 --> 03:12:22,850
That's correct.

2262
03:12:23,050 --> 03:12:27,590
So the way that we've set this up, we're going to be attaching the findings to the minutes so they're available.

2263
03:12:28,890 --> 03:12:33,630
We don't need to be read into the record, but just the motion itself needs to be read into the record.

2264
03:12:33,730 --> 03:12:35,370
That does include the conditions though, Tracy.

2265
03:12:35,950 --> 03:12:36,270
Okay.

2266
03:12:36,870 --> 03:12:37,050
Okay.

2267
03:12:37,490 --> 03:12:38,270
I think he's got it.

2268
03:12:38,510 --> 03:12:47,770
The only thing, the only thing we, I need to clarify is as part of the motion,

2269
03:12:47,770 --> 03:12:52,270
It talks about the Historic Preservation Commission in Glendale and Historical Society

2270
03:12:53,490 --> 03:13:05,650
and about the memo addressed on October 12th, which do we want to say they need to incorporate

2271
03:13:05,650 --> 03:13:11,970
some things, including detail to the building corners, varying of the roof line, incorporating

2272
03:13:11,970 --> 03:13:20,010
public art and historic light fixtures prior to the village board review. Do we want to make that

2273
03:13:20,010 --> 03:13:33,490
a condition of our vote tonight or do we want to remove that since there are already I am assuming

2274
03:13:33,490 --> 03:13:41,690
and correct me if I'm wrong, Katie and Kelly, that when this goes in front of the Village

2275
03:13:41,690 --> 03:13:47,830
Board, that information from the Historic Preservation and the Historical Society will

2276
03:13:48,920 --> 03:13:55,670
be part of that package and the Board can address if they don't believe that they've

2277
03:13:55,670 --> 03:13:58,210
taken enough of that into account.

2278
03:14:00,840 --> 03:14:02,200
Did that make any sense?

2279
03:14:02,200 --> 03:14:06,860
Yeah, but let me start with the first part of your question, which is do we want to

2280
03:14:07,380 --> 03:14:14,020
Leave the draft the motion as it's written with number 12 in it or you're saying should we potentially take it out?

2281
03:14:14,440 --> 03:14:20,960
I'm personally fine. We're adjusted. Yeah, I'm fine with it in there personally. So let's see what the other commissioners ask

2282
03:14:20,960 --> 03:14:22,320
because you asked that that was

2283
03:14:24,140 --> 03:14:29,880
What is everybody have it or do I need to read that read well, please okay

2284
03:14:30,980 --> 03:14:37,680
that the petitioner incorporates some additional design detail into the building as recommended

2285
03:14:37,680 --> 03:14:43,800
by the Historic Preservation Commission and the Glen Ellen Historical Society per the memo

2286
03:14:43,800 --> 03:14:50,680
addressed to the petitioner dated October 21, 2020, which might include adding details

2287
03:14:50,680 --> 03:14:57,140
to the building corners, varying the roofline by increasing the cornice heights, incorporating

2288
03:14:57,140 --> 03:14:59,280
public art and historic light fixtures.

2289
03:15:00,000 --> 03:15:04,360
Any such changes shall be incorporated prior to village board of the project.

2290
03:15:06,950 --> 03:15:08,190
So this would mean they

2291
03:15:08,190 --> 03:15:16,010
would have to change their designs to include these prior to submitting, prior to going in front of the

2292
03:15:16,010 --> 03:15:24,110
village board with the way it's written. But it says might include. Right. I think we left it just a

2293
03:15:24,110 --> 03:15:28,190
little bit open-ended so that they wouldn't have to include all those things, but if you all wanted

2294
03:15:28,190 --> 03:15:32,230
to suggest one or two that those things could be incorporated prior to the

2295
03:15:32,230 --> 03:15:36,510
Village Board reviewing and taking a look at the project. And again, I find with

2296
03:15:36,510 --> 03:15:43,550
the soft wording for so that they can choose what works best for them but. So

2297
03:15:43,550 --> 03:15:52,010
should we put that if the petitioner chooses to incorporate more? Maybe we

2298
03:15:52,010 --> 03:15:56,290
say something like they work with staff to incorporate as many as

2299
03:15:56,290 --> 03:16:00,330
possible prior to the village board meeting.

2300
03:16:01,130 --> 03:16:02,550
No, I'm fine with that.

2301
03:16:03,070 --> 03:16:04,270
Certainly we have some recommendations.

2302
03:16:05,510 --> 03:16:07,750
Otherwise number 12 wouldn't be there.

2303
03:16:08,490 --> 03:16:09,490
Yes, Katie. Right.

2304
03:16:10,870 --> 03:16:12,730
I was just,

2305
03:16:14,050 --> 03:16:17,190
if there were any elements that the petitioner share during their

2306
03:16:17,190 --> 03:16:20,670
presentation specifically that maybe weren't included in the packet.

2307
03:16:20,670 --> 03:16:29,990
that the planning commissioners preferred and maybe you could specifically call those out even like the detailing on the columns, for example.

2308
03:16:31,420 --> 03:16:37,490
And the art metal work there if there are any features that they were suggesting.

2309
03:16:39,190 --> 03:16:44,130
We could also look at it in the alternative, we could say if there was anything they proposed

2310
03:16:44,130 --> 03:16:48,970
that you didn't like, let us know and then we'll make sure those aren't included.

2311
03:16:50,510 --> 03:16:53,690
On the other hand, there were so many things I don't know that I wanted.

2312
03:16:53,970 --> 03:16:55,030
I don't want to list them.

2313
03:16:55,410 --> 03:17:00,730
I like your idea of let's work with staff to incorporate, you know, to improve the

2314
03:17:00,730 --> 03:17:00,910
building.

2315
03:17:01,970 --> 03:17:02,130
Yeah.

2316
03:17:04,310 --> 03:17:05,110
You're okay with that?

2317
03:17:05,110 --> 03:17:05,530
I'll change it.

2318
03:17:05,790 --> 03:17:06,690
Yes, I'm okay with that.

2319
03:17:06,690 --> 03:17:13,270
Okay, thank you. I'll change it to say that the petitioner work with staff to incorporate some additional design details.

2320
03:17:15,110 --> 03:17:24,810
Into the building is recommended by the historical preservation. Yeah, right. Yeah, and then continue on. So I'm just adding that. Okay. Okay. Okay, you guys. This is long.

2321
03:17:27,210 --> 03:17:29,990
I'll do my best to get through this quickly as possible.

2322
03:17:30,850 --> 03:17:35,810
After conducting a public hearing and deliberating on the requests of the Petitioner, Michael

2323
03:17:35,810 --> 03:17:40,870
O'Connor, Vice President of Development and Leasing of how holiday properties for approval

2324
03:17:40,870 --> 03:17:47,950
of a special use for preliminary and final planned unit development with zoning deviations,

2325
03:17:48,330 --> 03:17:55,550
a special use to allow multifamily dwellings and exterior appearance, allow to all, sorry,

2326
03:17:55,550 --> 03:18:12,830
All to allow the construction of a five-story mixed-use building with ground floor commercial space, apartments, and an enclosed parking garage on the property located at 460 Crescent Boulevard in the C5B central service district, or sub-district.

2327
03:18:12,830 --> 03:18:18,790
The Plan Commission hereby recommends approval based on the findings of FACT as discussed

2328
03:18:20,370 --> 03:18:26,450
at the Plan Commission public hearing on November 12, 2020, and a copy of which will be attached

2329
03:18:26,450 --> 03:18:31,630
to the minutes of the meeting and kept unfit as part of the permanent record of the village.

2330
03:18:32,730 --> 03:18:36,510
The Plan Commission makes the recommendation of approval with the following conditions.

2331
03:18:36,970 --> 03:18:42,450
Number one, that the petitioner construct, maintain and operate the development in substantial

2332
03:18:42,450 --> 03:18:49,210
conformance with the plans and testimony presented at the plant commission public hearing and before the village Board of Trustees.

2333
03:18:49,910 --> 03:18:57,410
Number two, that the petitioner shall install, maintain, and replace all landscape material per the approved landscape plan.

2334
03:18:57,950 --> 03:19:08,890
Number three, that the petitioner prepare a construction management plan for review at a pre-construction meeting with the police, fire, public works, and community development departments.

2335
03:19:08,890 --> 03:19:16,350
And that sets village staff approve the construction management plan before the issuance of building permits.

2336
03:19:17,350 --> 03:19:31,570
Number 4, that a proposed drop off slash pick up recess curve area at the northwest corner of Crescent and Glomode intersection should remain in the and incorporate and be incorporated into the village board approved.

2337
03:19:32,010 --> 03:19:37,010
Downtown streets gave improvement plan be signed with a time limit of 15 minutes.

2338
03:19:37,010 --> 03:19:52,770
Number five, that the petitioner shall comply with the downtown streetscape improvement plan adapted by the village board for the Glenwood Avenue and Crescent Boulevard right-of-ways and coordinate with public works on the installation of the materials.

2339
03:19:53,270 --> 03:20:01,390
Number six, that any outdoor cafe seating obtain a license agreement with a village annually before seating is installed and used.

2340
03:20:01,390 --> 03:20:11,590
Number seven, that the petitioner coordinate with public works to install a new bike rack consistent with downtown streetscape furniture in an appropriate location.

2341
03:20:11,590 --> 03:20:21,490
Number eight, that sheets A-101 and A-102, prepared by tandem architecture Inc.

2342
03:20:21,690 --> 03:20:30,190
dated 11-5-2020, which propose a total of 104 parking stalls, be modified as

2343
03:20:30,190 --> 03:20:38,730
required by the 218 Illinois accessibility code and section 10-5-13-I of the

2344
03:20:38,730 --> 03:20:44,570
zoning code to provide that no less than 102 parking styles prior to building permit

2345
03:20:44,570 --> 03:20:45,230
issuance.

2346
03:20:45,950 --> 03:20:53,490
Number nine, that all visible rooftop mechanical units be screened with the height not to exceed

2347
03:20:53,490 --> 03:20:56,030
that of overall maximum height deviated granted.

2348
03:20:57,110 --> 03:21:03,050
Number 10, that all proposed improvements to the public right-of-way be subject to

2349
03:21:03,050 --> 03:21:08,130
change per the pending downtown central business district streetscape improvement per

2350
03:21:08,130 --> 03:21:09,070
for village board approval.

2351
03:21:09,850 --> 03:21:13,250
Number 11, that the petitioner secure all required

2352
03:21:13,250 --> 03:21:18,090
temporary construction and perpetual easement

2353
03:21:18,090 --> 03:21:20,390
on private property before the issuance

2354
03:21:20,390 --> 03:21:21,510
of any building permits.

2355
03:21:22,190 --> 03:21:25,170
Number 12, that the petitioner work with staff

2356
03:21:25,170 --> 03:21:28,030
to incorporate some additional design detail

2357
03:21:28,590 --> 03:21:30,050
into the building as recommended

2358
03:21:30,050 --> 03:21:31,750
by the Historic Preservation Commission

2359
03:21:31,750 --> 03:21:33,690
and the Glen Island Historical Society.

2360
03:21:34,150 --> 03:21:36,070
Prove the memo address to the petitioner

2361
03:21:36,070 --> 03:21:43,150
dated October 21, 2020, which might include adding details to the building corners varying

2362
03:21:43,150 --> 03:21:47,790
the roof lines by increasing the corner sites, incorporating public art and historic light

2363
03:21:47,790 --> 03:21:52,890
fixtures. Any such changes should be incorporated prior to the Village Board review of the

2364
03:21:52,890 --> 03:21:53,270
project.

2365
03:21:53,950 --> 03:22:03,310
Number 13, that the petitioner pay a total of $171,205.64 in developer donations for

2366
03:22:03,310 --> 03:22:08,690
dispersal to the Glen Elm Park District, School District 41, School District 87,

2367
03:22:08,890 --> 03:22:13,470
the Glen Elm Library, and the Glen Elm Bound to Fire Company before the issuance of any

2368
03:22:13,470 --> 03:22:20,130
construction building permits. And number 14, that all floor plans, elevations, and other

2369
03:22:20,130 --> 03:22:24,550
architectural plans be consistent with one another to the satisfaction of the building

2370
03:22:24,550 --> 03:22:28,150
and zoning official prior to the issuance of any building permits.

2371
03:22:28,950 --> 03:22:31,890
I have a motion. May I have a second please?

2372
03:22:31,890 --> 03:22:40,690
I do okay Mohammed okay Barbara may we have a roll call vote we have a motion

2373
03:22:40,690 --> 03:22:46,710
by Commissioner Heming-Litwin and we have a second by Commissioner Said all

2374
03:22:46,710 --> 03:22:58,240
right plan Commissioner Heming-Litwin yes plan Commissioner Said yes chair

2375
03:23:00,290 --> 03:23:01,870
person lock. Yes.

2376
03:23:04,090 --> 03:23:10,530
Plan commissioner Brown. Yes. Plan commissioner Fanela. Yes.

2377
03:23:12,760 --> 03:23:13,100
Plan

2378
03:23:13,100 --> 03:23:20,300
commissioner Moheras. Yes. Plan commissioner Rademann. No.

2379
03:23:22,660 --> 03:23:23,440
Plan commissioner

2380
03:23:23,440 --> 03:23:25,320
Vandrista. Yes.

2381
03:23:28,820 --> 03:23:33,940
The motion passes. Okay. Thank you very much Barb. And thank you

2382
03:23:33,940 --> 03:23:42,500
to our petitioner. We wish you well and thank you staff on this project. So, we can move

2383
03:23:42,500 --> 03:23:52,140
on to our next agenda item. Can I, I'm sorry. You sure can jump in. Sure, Dan. Ask one of

2384
03:23:52,140 --> 03:23:57,380
the planners, Katie, can you give an update on when this is projected to go to the village

2385
03:23:57,380 --> 03:24:05,260
board or so in her slide I know you don't have to get bring that up I just

2386
03:24:05,260 --> 03:24:13,520
remember if I remember being it at being there December there is only the one

2387
03:24:13,520 --> 03:24:24,220
village board meeting in December as the holidays so I just wanted everybody who's

2388
03:24:24,220 --> 03:24:28,500
on the call to be re-reminded of that in case they wanted to follow this further.

2389
03:24:29,200 --> 03:24:33,400
I think that's a great suggestion, especially since I'm sure the petitioner wants to hear

2390
03:24:33,400 --> 03:24:33,700
it too.

2391
03:24:37,020 --> 03:24:41,360
My agenda says other business, but let's just go straight to the trustee report.

2392
03:24:41,820 --> 03:24:43,200
Mr. Enright, are you still there?

2393
03:24:44,240 --> 03:24:44,920
Yeah, I'm here.

2394
03:24:45,360 --> 03:24:45,720
Can you hear me?

2395
03:24:45,740 --> 03:24:45,940
Excellent.

2396
03:24:46,180 --> 03:24:46,860
And we sure can.

2397
03:24:47,060 --> 03:24:47,480
Loud and clear.

2398
03:24:48,200 --> 03:24:48,600
Great.

2399
03:24:49,200 --> 03:24:50,040
Interesting meeting.

2400
03:24:50,040 --> 03:24:56,160
thanks a lot everybody for sticking out for the three hours or so and so what we

2401
03:24:56,160 --> 03:25:03,120
do what you do exactly that's what everybody else does too right and so

2402
03:25:03,120 --> 03:25:07,560
just the thing that we've been working on lately on the Village Board is the

2403
03:25:07,560 --> 03:25:14,600
budget and the last reading of the budget was for around $65 million for

2404
03:25:14,600 --> 03:25:21,980
this year, which was less than last year, which was $77 million, mostly due to the building

2405
03:25:21,980 --> 03:25:23,600
of the parking garage.

2406
03:25:24,000 --> 03:25:26,840
And so we had the first reading last week.

2407
03:25:27,320 --> 03:25:32,340
And then the next reading, the final reading will also be coming on that 14th of December

2408
03:25:32,340 --> 03:25:32,680
meeting.

2409
03:25:32,940 --> 03:25:35,820
And so watch for that at that time.

2410
03:25:36,520 --> 03:25:41,820
And then, and then otherwise, you know, some of the things that we've been talking

2411
03:25:41,820 --> 03:25:47,780
about our like the McKee house and you know what's going on with trying to save it and whether or

2412
03:25:47,780 --> 03:25:54,160
not we're going to be able to come up with any donations to be able to remodel the house and get

2413
03:25:54,160 --> 03:26:02,220
it ready for other uses which you know some of the civic groups are working on now and so for

2414
03:26:02,220 --> 03:26:06,520
the most part that's what we've been doing a lot of workshops and budgets I can tell you that

2415
03:26:06,520 --> 03:26:08,740
So thanks for everybody's time.

2416
03:26:09,620 --> 03:26:10,380
All right.

2417
03:26:10,480 --> 03:26:11,340
Thank you very much.

2418
03:26:12,800 --> 03:26:14,980
The chairman report is next.

2419
03:26:15,480 --> 03:26:16,940
I just have a couple of things.

2420
03:26:17,140 --> 03:26:25,300
First off, the civic betterment party is conducting the elections for the village offices of the library board, the village board and village president.

2421
03:26:25,920 --> 03:26:32,280
So if you haven't voted Saturdays, because there was early voting, but that is even ended for tonight.

2422
03:26:32,920 --> 03:26:37,880
But Saturday from 9 to 2, you can vote at the Civic Center in person.

2423
03:26:38,340 --> 03:26:51,120
And I voted last Saturday in the early voting, and I actually thought they did a great job of the way they handled the separation of all the different voting booths and sanitizing the pens if you wanted to use their pen.

2424
03:26:51,320 --> 03:26:56,440
I just thought they did a very, I felt a very safe, you know, environment for voting.

2425
03:26:56,980 --> 03:27:07,160
If you're uncomfortable even with that, they're offering two drive through voting options, one at the village links and one at the parking lot west of the library.

2426
03:27:07,740 --> 03:27:16,340
I'm not quite sure how it works, but my guess is you'll drive in. They'll check your IDs to ensure that you're resident of Glen Ellen and give you a ballot.

2427
03:27:16,580 --> 03:27:23,020
You probably pull over to a car and fill out your ballot and then pull out to an exit location where you're turning your ballot in.

2428
03:27:23,020 --> 03:27:32,520
But I think it's a neat opportunity, you know, COVID has created some interesting solutions that I think that we'd stick with for a long time.

2429
03:27:32,640 --> 03:27:38,880
And I think both the Civic Veteran Party early voting and this drive through voting might be something that would stick around for a while.

2430
03:27:39,160 --> 03:27:43,920
So, but I encourage everybody to vote this Saturday and vote for Mary Locke for a village president.

2431
03:27:44,920 --> 03:27:49,840
It's okay, you want a little bit of an asterisk for an opinion there.

2432
03:27:50,600 --> 03:27:55,640
The next thing I wanted to mention is the COVID situation, and only just because this

2433
03:27:55,640 --> 03:28:00,920
is the mother in me coming out, I feel like we've been practicing for six months with

2434
03:28:00,920 --> 03:28:04,620
our mask and our hands sanitizing and not rubbing our eyes, and it's interesting to

2435
03:28:04,620 --> 03:28:07,780
watch a Zoom meeting and see people rub their eyes, and I just want to just grab

2436
03:28:07,780 --> 03:28:09,580
their hand and say, please stop doing that.

2437
03:28:09,580 --> 03:28:14,240
Anyway, what I'd really want to just say is everybody, be safe, we're going into the

2438
03:28:14,240 --> 03:28:19,420
next six months, we've got a six month test and now the real test is happening, you know,

2439
03:28:19,500 --> 03:28:20,240
so be safe.

2440
03:28:20,820 --> 03:28:23,360
So that's my thoughts on, in my report.

2441
03:28:23,800 --> 03:28:24,940
So do we have a staff report?

2442
03:28:25,440 --> 03:28:27,080
That's our next agenda item, okay?

2443
03:28:27,420 --> 03:28:28,620
Who is giving the staff report?

2444
03:28:28,740 --> 03:28:29,060
Is that Kelly?

2445
03:28:29,680 --> 03:28:30,940
I saw her nodding her head.

2446
03:28:31,280 --> 03:28:32,460
Anybody is welcome.

2447
03:28:32,640 --> 03:28:34,480
I do have two things that I wanted to chat about.

2448
03:28:34,600 --> 03:28:38,440
Katie, did you have anything that you wanted to head it off with, the staff part?

2449
03:28:38,440 --> 03:28:49,330
you're muted. I can just share that Mortensen, the consultant for design

2450
03:28:49,330 --> 03:28:56,210
build firm for the Village parking garage, did submit their final beauty plans

2451
03:28:56,210 --> 03:29:01,910
and a preliminary beauty amendments related to a couple screening items of

2452
03:29:01,910 --> 03:29:06,390
utilities that are going to be near that public space. So we are still

2453
03:29:06,390 --> 03:29:11,950
targeting the December 17th meeting. Now that the quorum has been confirmed for that date,

2454
03:29:12,630 --> 03:29:17,710
but that's the only thing that I have coming up to you guys next month.

2455
03:29:18,950 --> 03:29:24,230
Okay. A quick update on the streetscape materials. If you all haven't been out to the corner of

2456
03:29:24,230 --> 03:29:28,550
Preston and Maine right over by M&Ms on the south side and east side of that building,

2457
03:29:28,870 --> 03:29:34,410
there have been installed some new streetscape materials. There's a great

2458
03:29:36,130 --> 03:29:39,530
little scanner thing that you use your cell phone to take your cell phone with you when you go.

2459
03:29:39,950 --> 03:29:44,010
You use a little scanner, it pops up the website and it's really easy to vote for your favorite materials.

2460
03:29:44,130 --> 03:29:46,790
I would encourage everybody to get out and give your input on that.

2461
03:29:47,730 --> 03:29:52,050
As, you know, over the next couple of months we're going to be trying to gather as much input from the community

2462
03:29:52,690 --> 03:29:56,030
on what everybody's favorite materials are for the new streetscape.

2463
03:29:56,030 --> 03:29:59,970
Secondly, comprehensive...

2464
03:30:00,000 --> 03:30:06,640
I just received this week from our consultant the full document. It is up on their website

2465
03:30:06,640 --> 03:30:12,060
if anybody wants to have a little preview. We have scheduled two open house meetings

2466
03:30:12,060 --> 03:30:17,440
and we're really hoping that we can have them given what's going on with the COVID situation.

2467
03:30:18,520 --> 03:30:22,300
We're going to do our best to make sure that we can do the in-person open house at the

2468
03:30:22,300 --> 03:30:27,140
village hall November 18th. That's going to be from 5 o'clock to 7 p.m.

2469
03:30:28,820 --> 03:30:32,920
We're going to do our best to make sure there's less than 10 people in the gymnasium at all

2470
03:30:32,920 --> 03:30:33,280
times.

2471
03:30:33,440 --> 03:30:35,020
Everybody's going to be required to wear a mask.

2472
03:30:35,260 --> 03:30:36,420
It will be social distance.

2473
03:30:36,620 --> 03:30:38,040
That's why we're in a big gymnasium.

2474
03:30:39,080 --> 03:30:44,520
So unless, you know, the governor creates some additional restrictions on, you know,

2475
03:30:44,540 --> 03:30:48,140
meeting spaces and so forth, we're going to try to have that in-person open house.

2476
03:30:48,660 --> 03:30:51,760
For folks who don't feel comfortable coming out to that, we will have the second

2477
03:30:51,760 --> 03:30:54,360
open house the very next day, November 19th.

2478
03:30:54,360 --> 03:30:57,540
That will run from 6 to 7 p.m. And that will be done via zoom

2479
03:30:58,480 --> 03:31:01,820
administered by director Springer myself and

2480
03:31:02,360 --> 03:31:05,280
Any of the other planners who want to participate that evening?

2481
03:31:06,740 --> 03:31:10,100
and then finally I just wanted to mention that the

2482
03:31:10,100 --> 03:31:17,740
Draft comprehensive plan the first of three public hearings before the plan commission has been tentatively scheduled for December 10

2483
03:31:18,320 --> 03:31:22,240
Again, that's provided. We get to have the open houses that we're expecting to have

2484
03:31:22,240 --> 03:31:27,120
And not any issues was covered that further restrict us being able to do that.

2485
03:31:27,240 --> 03:31:30,360
So that is all of the updates that I have.

2486
03:31:30,480 --> 03:31:41,220
Oh, one other thing we are expecting to be bringing back cannabis to the Village Board for consideration at a workshop meeting first, Stacy, right?

2487
03:31:41,380 --> 03:31:41,680
Is that correct?

2488
03:31:41,820 --> 03:31:48,060
Yes, we are going to be doing it at the December 7th Village Board workshop meeting for a discussion.

2489
03:31:49,180 --> 03:31:52,180
Kelly, do you want to wrap that up or you want me to pick up from there?

2490
03:31:56,440 --> 03:32:14,660
Okay, so essentially we're just going to kind of be putting together a quick memo that kind of reminds them of where we've been and what the recommendation was from the plan commission on the proposed text amendments way back when that would allow recreational cannabis to be sold only in the C3 zoning district with a special use.

2491
03:32:14,660 --> 03:32:19,000
They should decide that they would like to allow those types of businesses in the village.

2492
03:32:19,360 --> 03:32:32,700
There were a number of other restrictions that the plan commission recommended as well, such as no, you know, onsite smoking anywhere or onsite consumption rather certain safety measures and so forth, those types of things.

2493
03:32:32,780 --> 03:32:35,040
So they'll be getting a memo regarding that we did have.

2494
03:32:35,880 --> 03:32:40,820
you know on the ballots the question to the community, the community came back

2495
03:32:40,820 --> 03:32:44,840
basically 50-50 split as we kind of seen through all the surveys that we done we

2496
03:32:44,840 --> 03:32:48,820
had done prior to bringing the question to the plan commission and to the

2497
03:32:48,820 --> 03:32:52,200
village board the community was really split down the middle so we'll see

2498
03:32:52,200 --> 03:32:59,980
where they take it from there. Okay thank you. So we have a if we if we

2499
03:32:59,980 --> 03:33:06,760
didn't have our the comprehensive plan meeting on the can't happen on the

2500
03:33:06,760 --> 03:33:11,820
10th because we don't have we haven't heard what was going to be on the 10th

2501
03:33:11,820 --> 03:33:15,240
comprehensive plan right the public hearing for the comprehensive plan

2502
03:33:15,240 --> 03:33:20,060
plans of plan if we if we can't have it on the 10th would we move what was

2503
03:33:20,060 --> 03:33:25,200
going to be on the 17th to the 10th then I don't believe so so the issue

2504
03:33:25,200 --> 03:33:31,880
with that. I, as I had kind of tried to allude to in my email T-wall was we're on a really

2505
03:33:31,880 --> 03:33:38,100
kind of tight timeline. I think it's nearly, it's close to impossible, but we're going to

2506
03:33:38,100 --> 03:33:43,560
try to pull it off. And it's a really tight turnaround for the reviews like one week in

2507
03:33:43,560 --> 03:33:49,020
between submitting review, submitting review, which is a little atypical for us. So I think

2508
03:33:49,020 --> 03:33:54,760
that's as expedited as it could get. If that's, if I'm speaking out of time,

2509
03:33:54,760 --> 03:34:06,880
Okay. No, that's fine. I was just, I was just wondering if for some reason it did. The 10th didn't happen. We wouldn't do the 10th, but then we'd still have the other item on the 17th.

2510
03:34:07,100 --> 03:34:07,460
Yeah.

2511
03:34:09,160 --> 03:34:10,240
You correct me if I'm wrong, Lee.

2512
03:34:11,260 --> 03:34:12,520
No, I agree.

2513
03:34:13,440 --> 03:34:18,240
And maybe I can wrap it up unless Katie had something else you wanted to share.

2514
03:34:18,240 --> 03:34:30,660
So thank you for a couple of the commissioners extended their appreciation to the planning staff to bring this project forward.

2515
03:34:31,240 --> 03:34:44,040
I don't know that a lot of people recognize the amount of work that goes into that and Katie has managed this case from the very beginning and she's done a great job this is her.

2516
03:34:44,580 --> 03:34:48,640
She's really only been here a little more than a year, although I feel like she's been here forever.

2517
03:34:49,380 --> 03:34:55,380
And she's doing a fabulous job and she put in a ton of hours on this.

2518
03:34:55,820 --> 03:35:00,580
And Cole and Kelly helped out this week too, trying to pull everything together.

2519
03:35:01,760 --> 03:35:10,000
But it is, it's a lot of work and they have been putting in a lot of extra hours, because this isn't the only project we've got going on.

2520
03:35:10,000 --> 03:35:13,440
We have a lot of really high priority projects on our plate right now.

2521
03:35:13,880 --> 03:35:20,300
And so thank you for noticing that they're doing a really great job.

2522
03:35:21,300 --> 03:35:28,020
I also wanted to give you a little bit of an update on something exciting I'd like to share.

2523
03:35:28,880 --> 03:35:32,520
Back effective on October 30th.

2524
03:35:32,580 --> 03:35:35,280
We had a promotion in the department actually we had to.

2525
03:35:35,280 --> 03:35:49,420
But we've been trying to work on ways in the department to streamline our operations and use our time and our resources more effectively.

2526
03:35:50,400 --> 03:36:03,660
And in doing that, we recognize that there's a lot on a lot of people's plates and we can best accomplish that by having someone supervising the planning division.

2527
03:36:03,660 --> 03:36:11,280
for the department. So right now we've had a building official supervising the

2528
03:36:11,280 --> 03:36:17,160
building division and I have been supervising the planning division which

2529
03:36:17,160 --> 03:36:21,460
I've not been able to keep up with as well as I would like to and also for

2530
03:36:21,460 --> 03:36:26,340
succession planning it would be good to have someone else be able to do what I

2531
03:36:26,340 --> 03:36:31,620
do. So I am pleased to announce that we have promoted Kelly Purvis from

2532
03:36:31,620 --> 03:36:34,100
planner to planning manager.

2533
03:36:37,020 --> 03:36:42,320
Congratulations. Thanks. Way to go. She is well deserving.

2534
03:36:43,220 --> 03:36:48,040
She's been with the village five years now. Is it five or six? A little more than five.

2535
03:36:48,520 --> 03:36:52,060
Okay and she started, I don't know if you remember this, but she started as a planning

2536
03:36:52,060 --> 03:36:58,740
intern back in 2014 and then we hired her as a associate planner and then we promoted her

2537
03:36:58,740 --> 03:37:04,100
planner and now she is planning and she is well deserving of this recognition. I tell you

2538
03:37:04,100 --> 03:37:10,920
it's only been a couple of weeks but already things are running smoother and she's got it all under

2539
03:37:10,920 --> 03:37:17,900
control and I have the greatest respect and confidence in her and I know she'll do a fabulous

2540
03:37:17,900 --> 03:37:23,440
job. So congratulations. Congratulations Kelly. Thank you guys very much. Appreciate it.

2541
03:37:24,600 --> 03:37:26,040
I think that's all I have.

2542
03:37:26,420 --> 03:37:28,300
Well, that's a lot. We like that one.

2543
03:37:28,440 --> 03:37:29,360
And I love going, you know,

2544
03:37:29,420 --> 03:37:30,780
love ending this on a high note,

2545
03:37:30,840 --> 03:37:33,480
unless somebody else has something else that I'd like to bring up to the

2546
03:37:33,480 --> 03:37:34,600
plan commission at this point.

2547
03:37:36,480 --> 03:37:39,940
Otherwise I don't really need a motion to adjourn, but I'll take one.

2548
03:37:40,900 --> 03:37:41,740
So moved.

2549
03:37:42,100 --> 03:37:42,760
At a second.

2550
03:37:44,440 --> 03:37:47,300
Meeting adjourned. Thank you all. Really appreciate it.

2551
03:37:47,900 --> 03:37:49,020
Happy Thanksgiving, you guys.

2552
03:37:49,640 --> 03:37:52,080
Happy Thanksgiving. Stay safe.

2553
03:37:55,580 --> 03:37:56,560
Good luck, Mary!

2554
03:37:57,140 --> 03:37:58,100
Oh, thank you!

2555
03:37:58,980 --> 03:37:59,680
Good luck, Mary!

2556
03:37:59,860 --> 03:38:00,720
Go vote, guys!