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Welcome to the Wednesday, March 18, 2026

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meeting of the Gloucester Conservation

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Commission. The time is 5:30. I will

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start with a roll call. Commissioners

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present. Cook

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>> here.

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>> Argent

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>> here.

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>> Member Elites

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>> here.

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>> Member Terry and member Jackson

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>> here.

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>> Present.

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>> Okay, we'll start off the meeting with

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an administrative briefing. Chuck, do

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you have anything to catch us up on?

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Uh not a whole lot. Uh we do have uh

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progress being made on the uh culvert

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down at Lennic Avenue, Atlantic Street,

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uh right there at the uh pillars. Um

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they are running just slightly behind

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schedule because of all the weather. Um

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but they are moving right along and they

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should have flow established if not by

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the end of this week, uh the beginning

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of next week. Um they've basically kind

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of finished up all of the structure and

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they're just kind of redoing the uh the

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uh substrate around the structure and

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then they will get the uh bottom

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substrate of the culvert installed uh

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probably starting sometime tomorrow.

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>> Okay, sounds good.

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If you have nothing else, we'll move on

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to public comment. This is the

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opportunity for anyone in the audience

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who wishes to comment on an item of

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conservation value that is not on the

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current agenda. um the opportunity to do

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so. Is there anyone who wishes to speak?

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» Don't have any hands up on the Zoom and

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I'm here in person.

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>> Okay, I'll close the public comment

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period. We'll move on to minutes review

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and approval. Um we're working on the

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minutes for March 4th, 2026.

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Commissioner Cook moves to approve the

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minutes for March 4th, 2026.

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>> Commissioner Sergeant seconds.

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>> Call. Member Cook.

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>> Yes.

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>> Sergeant.

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>> Yes.

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>> Member Lightes.

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>> Yes.

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>> Member Jackson.

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>> Yes. Okay. Moving on to continued

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business. First up is NOI 028 2976

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171 and 281 rear Magnolia Avenue. how

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Mag LLC being the owner and this is was

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previously continued to April 15th,

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2026.

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Next up is NOI028

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um unassigned

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NO um D number for 18 rear bungalow road

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uh Marshia Sassoon owning and this also

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was previously continued to April 1st

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2026.

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Then we have NOI two together. NOI

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028-30006

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at 105 Wingers Road, 125 Wingers LLC and

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NOI 02830007

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107 Wingershik Road also by 125 Wingers

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LLC. There has been a request to

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continue each of these items to a the

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meeting of April 15, 2026.

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Commissioner Cook makes a motion to move

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NOI 02830006

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and NOI 02830007

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to the meeting of April 15, 2026.

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» Mr. Sergeant seconds member Cook.

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>> Sergeant,

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>> yes. Memberes,

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NOI 0283036

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at 36 and 7 Welch Lane and Rear Woodman

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Street by RDL Welch Lane LLC. There's

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also been a request to continue to the

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meeting of April 15, 2026.

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>> Commissioner Cook makes a motion to move

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NOI 0283036

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to the commission meeting of April 15,

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2026.

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>> Commissioner Le call member Cook. Yes.

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>> Sergeant

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>> stay.

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Yes. Member Jackson.

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Okay. NOI 0283077

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at 37y Road by Daniel Fonzi. There has

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been a request to withdraw this

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application without prejudice.

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>> Aiden does have his hand up if we want

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to hear from him.

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>> He should be joining now.

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name and address for the record, please.

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>> Sorry, I lost you there for a second.

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Um, rejoin as panelists. Uh, Aiden

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Church, Casside Legal Solutions, address

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123 Main Street, Glouester. Um, so as

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you mentioned, um, Mr. Chair, we did

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just submit this afternoon a written

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request for um, a request to withdraw

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this NOI. I'm going to also address the

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request for certificate of compliance

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that's um later on down the agenda for

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35 mass road. So, uh, based on the

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discussion that we had, uh, two weeks

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ago here with the commission, based on,

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um, you know, the additional impact area

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on 35 Massesoy Road, we're going to

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respectfully request, uh, that the

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commission issue a friendly enforcement

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order uh, pertaining to 35 Massoy Road.

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Uh, we hope to work collaborative

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collaboratively with the commission to

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address um, that additional impact area

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through a restoration plan. Um, so

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obviously it's at the at the

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commission's discretion as to as to when

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to issue that enforcement order, but we

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would request that it is placed on once

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it is issued that it is placed on on the

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May 6th agenda so that we have

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sufficient time to develop that

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restoration plan and um and submit it in

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advance of that hearing. So, uh, just to

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recap, the the request in its entirety

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is to withdraw the NOI for 37 Masses Soy

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Road again without prejudice. Um, so

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that we can hopefully come back in the

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future. Um, and then to also withdraw

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the request for certificate of

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compliance on 35 Massesoid um, also

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without prejudice and then that the

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commission issue a friendly enforcement

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order pertaining to uh, 35 Massoy Road.

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I'm happy to answer any questions uh

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about any of the process or anything

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>> Madam Chair, I just want to state for the uh RCOC um

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there's not really a withdrawal process

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for that. So, I think the commission

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should probably vote that uh they're not

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going to issue the COC at this time and

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I'll write a written letter and that'll

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kind of close it out um on the current

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agendas and then they can resubmit for

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that once they've kind of cleaned things

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up with the enforcement order. But I

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order. Why don't we withdraw the 37

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Massoyat and then take up the COC

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request and

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decide we can vote on that not to issue

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a COC?

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you to issue an enforcement order.

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>> Okay. Sounds good. All right. So, I will

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entertain a motion to withdraw.

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Where are we? NOI 0283077

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at 37 Massasoya Road without prejudice.

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>> Commissioner Cook makes a motion to

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withdraw without prejudice. NOI 0283077

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seconds. Roll call. Member Cook.

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>> Member Elitees.

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>> Member Jackson.

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>> Yes. Okay. Next up, we will I got to

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discuss whether or not to withdraw or we

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will withdraw

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without prejudice the request for a

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certificate of compliance 0282721 at 35

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Massy Road unless anybody in the

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commission objects to that. Does

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withdrawal. It just be a uh a vote to

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not issue the COC.

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>> Not issue. I'm sorry. You're right. Vote

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to not issue. Okay. Is there anybody who

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has an discussion with that

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» on the commission? Okay. Then Chuck, do

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you want to take a poll for agreement?

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>> Uh, sure. Um,

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>> Cook.

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>> Sergeant,

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>> Member Elites.

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>> Member Jackson.

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>> Yes. And finally,

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yes. Um, not issue. Okay. Finally, we

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will take up the issuance of a friendly

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enforcement order in order to get them

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so issue?

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>> Commissioner Cook makes a motion

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uh to request uh the agent do a friendly

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enforcement order

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uh for 35 Massoy Road. Commissioners and

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seconds. Welcome. Member Cook. Yes.

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>> Thank you. Um we'll we'll collaborate

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with Chuck on just uh when that is is

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issued and stuff like that, but we would

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just request some time to um come back

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with with a plan. So, uh just the the

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May 6th agenda would work for us. Um so,

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just just reiterating re reiterating

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that and um and thank you again.

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>> Thank you. and we trust your contact

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with Chuck and we'll take it from there.

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Next up, we have NOI 0283110

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at 232 Atlantic Street, Wingers Beach by

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the city of Gloucester, DPW, Fedune and

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uh trail restoration in coastal dune,

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coastal beach, barrier beach, land

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subject to coastal storm flowage and

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priority and estimated habitats of rare

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species represented by Kansas Richie

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Mun, operations manager of beaches and

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>> thank you for uh your our last session

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and your your suggestions. Uh, we you

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guys have received but I don't think uh

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NHSP or D maybe have commented on the

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revision. You guys want to stay focused

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on the previous plan or continue on with

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the revision? I think it pro probably

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maybe approve the initial work um along

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with the additional condition additional

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work to be conditioned upon receipt of

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approval by NHSB.

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you guys have that information?

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>> Um we pretty much have the information.

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Um is there anybody on the commission

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who would like to hear that again? Um,

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maybe you could just touch on what

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additional components are on the new

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plan.

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>> Okay.

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» And then Bill, if you have any other

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questions, just say so.

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>> Okay.

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>> Great. So yeah, from last time, uh it's

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basically an addition of about 620 more

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linear feet, which brings us up walkway

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2 hooks around to the left and also uh

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walkway 2 hooking around to the right to

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where our original zone one began. Uh

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that increases uh about 45 to 50 more

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4in seat around posts as well as

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signage. Everything else pretty much

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stays the same. something um I kind of

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wanted to touch base on again which um

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Mr. Cook uh I know you suggested about

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the snow fencing uh and the dangers of

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uh you know the possible hazard for for

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injury. Um I just to revisit that. I

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love the idea of shrubs as well. Um

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which was part of the addition as well

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from last time. Uh bringing that on the

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parking lot side, landward side of the

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dunes. It's obviously we can't be

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planting that on the frontal dunes. So,

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if we were to use snow fencing on the on

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the frontal dunes and as designed it it

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traps sand and and brings that that

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level up to where it might be a hazard

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where someone's stepping over it, maybe

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we could install another tier to raise

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it up several feet so that that snow

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fence in. So, we'd put another piece of

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snow fence in to that new level and it

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would be again four feet tall matching

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the height of the dunes and we could

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trap the sand that way. So, I mean,

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someone would have to be jumping and

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climbing over the fence at that point in

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order to get injured with it being roped

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off with the symbolic fencing and

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signage and fencing on the parking lot

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side. Would would that kind of appease

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or or or

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uh or you know reduce the fears of

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someone getting hurt or because it

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sounds like also NHSP they they uh and

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fish and wildlife they um approved

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everything. It sounds like is that

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correct? They they did approve all the materials we used and

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>> yeah, they didn't have any comments

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pertaining to the the drift fence. Uh

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>> yeah. Um how do you guys how do you guys

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feel about that?

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>> Um this is Commissioner Cook. As as far

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as the snow fence goes, I don't have a

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problem with the snow fence. Um it's

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once it's been established for a while,

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uh we get a major event and that's when

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the problems occur. Uh the fences tend

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to get torn up. Um and

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I think maybe if we just put something

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in there that says, you know, um the

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snow fence will be maintained on a

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regular basis

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>> so that if we do have an event and they

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start getting torn up, uh you can come

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in and fix it.

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>> That's that's reasonable.

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>> Okay. Um, Kansas, is there anything else

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you would like to say for your initial

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comments before we open this up to

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public comment?

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>> Oh, sure. Um,

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no. I I think I think uh

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I think we can open it up. Yeah.

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>> Okay.

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>> One thing I might want to add just

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before um the reviewer uh for this is

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Devon Harrington. You probably know her

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as the former assistant agent. Um, I'm

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sure she's going to have no issues uh

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with the additional uh symbolic fencing.

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Um, I know she had drawn up plans very

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similar that actually extended that

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fencing much further down Ringer Cheeks.

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I I imagine when she's back in the

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office tomorrow, it'll probably be a

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quick uh quick letter

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that

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>> Okay, let's open this up for public

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comment. Is there anyone in the audience

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who wishes to comment on the project at

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NOI028-3110

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at 232 Atlantic Street, Wingers Beach?

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» Have no hands up on the Zoom and none

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here in person.

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>> Okay, let's go through commissioner

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comments.

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>> Member Cook,

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>> I have no additional comments.

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>> Sergeant,

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>> no comments. Thank you.

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>> No, we're good.

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>> Member Jackson,

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>> I'm good. Um, and Kansas, you're good if

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we approve the initial work with the

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additional work conditioned on receipt

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of NHSP approval.

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>> Yes, 100%. I I do have a question. Um,

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>> sure.

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>> Um, moving forward for revision. So, my

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understanding is we have five years to

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complete any of this related work under

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these under the MESSA.

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>> It's it's uh well the their letter is

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good for five years. Typically the

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notice of intent is good for three

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years, but you can uh get extensions on

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that.

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>> And as far as future revisions, I I

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didn't want to like shake things up last

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minute, but um

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revisions moving forward. We could start

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this initial work and revisions can

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still happen under this three-year

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period.

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Uh simple design revision like like

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where to run the fence, for instance. It

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is it's not it's advantageous to have a

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hooking a hooking uh trail coming into

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the beach versus being straight shot for

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the wind, right? And creating the rope

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where it hooks around might might be

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beneficial to the way that

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>> modification.

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>> Yeah, I think I think as long as there's

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not going to be any change in the impact

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to the resource area, these these are

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some some of these can be Yeah.

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>> Is this stuff we could work like as we

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>> Yes. If if you're in any doubt about

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making any changes, just get in touch

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with the agent and he will give you

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guidance as to whether anything needs to

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be filed or not.

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>> Awesome. Thank you, guys.

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>> Okay.

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>> All right. In that case, I will

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entertain a motion to approve the

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initial work on 232 Atlantic Street,

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Wingik Beach with the additional work um

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on receipt of NHSP approval.

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Commissioner Cook makes a motion to

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approve NOI 0283110

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at 322 Atlantic Street with the

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>> seconds.

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Member Cook.

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>> Yes.

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>> ID.

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>> Yes.

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>> Member Jackson.

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>> Yes.

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Okay.

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You are all set, sir.

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>> Thank you guys very much. I appreciate

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it and I appreciate your time.

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>> You're very welcome. Okay. Next up, we

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have NOI 0283111

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at 14 and 16 Lynx Road um by the

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historic Cape Ban LLC. Commissioner

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Jackson is recusing from this and Mr.

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Cook will take over.

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>> Okay. Um

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» Okay. Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Uh for

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the record, John Jud engineer with

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Gateway Consultants uh representing uh

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the applicant uh for this project at uh

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Lynx Road as described at the last

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hearing. I've shared my screen. Uh there

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were some comments received by the uh by

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the board. I'd like to go over those

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quickly. I think we've accommodated most

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of those comments or if not all of them.

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Uh at the last hearing we uh was asked

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why we couldn't move the structure out

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of the buffer zone and uh my explanation

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was this was the high point here and for

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views and obvious reasons uh the

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applicant uh went ahead and moved

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everything outside the the buffer zone

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with the exception of the Keystone

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driveway which is needed to access these

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uh uh these these uh garages here. So

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for the most part everything has been

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moved out. Uh certainly all the

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impervious area has been moved out as

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shown on the plan and uh that was the

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first comment. Uh the duplex has also

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been uh reduced and redesigned as shown

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on the current plan. Uh the Peace Drive

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has been labeled has been minimized and

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has been pulled back as well. uh as

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pointed out uh the detention basin uh

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was requested at the bottom of the uh

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the driveway at the the intersection of

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Lynx Road. There was a uh some concerns

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about that. In this area here, we've

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added a uh mitigation area as well as

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detention here, 40 foot long uh

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infiltration vegetated infiltration

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swale uh to mitigate any potential

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runoff coming off this pvious driveway,

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the Peace Driveway. Uh so that's been

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added there. Um no blasting is proposed

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in the buffer zone. So we've we've

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accepted that and we have no problem

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with uh putting that as part of the

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order conditions should that be issued.

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Uh snow removal areas have been proposed

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outside the buffer zone here and here.

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Uh that was requested by Mr. Shade. Uh

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and again mitigation area at the bottom

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200% of any work within the buffer zone.

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Uh although it's all uh pvious stone, we

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did uh provide uh the 200% there. Uh we

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have added a infiltration swell detail

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to go along the b the side of the

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driveway uh as well as the uh toward the

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bottom right here. And in addition to

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these two areas here for overland um uh

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infiltration for roof runoff and so

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forth coming off that building that is

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proposed and again all outside the

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buffer zone and uh I think that was it.

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If there's any other questions uh I'd be

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happy to answer those at this time.

518
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Thank you.

519
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>> Okay. Like to open it up for public

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comment.

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Let's see. We have

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couple hands up on Zoom and we have a

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couple hands here in person. Uh let's

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start with folks here in person.

525
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>> Hi. Uh Sharon Tomlinson, Three Links

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Road, Unit B. Um I have concerns of a

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water issue. We have a serious flooding

528
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issue on the street um that is affecting

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our property, flowing down our driveway,

530
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flowing into common backyard, and is

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doing a lot of damage. We have lost some

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trees due to the water issue um that we

533
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have been trying to address for several

534
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years. Um but it is difficult because it

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is a condo situation. It is a private

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road and it's affecting several houses.

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The water is coming from across the

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street and up the hill. So that is my

539
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biggest concern is is this project going

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to add more water displacement um

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affecting the road.

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Um I did send videos to um Miss Neand.

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Um my latest issue was this past storm.

544
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This um we had flooding that almost came

545
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into our front door and this is an

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ongoing issue where the water is just

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continuously flowing. Whether it's a

548
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nice dry day outside, we can still have

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uh ducks in our driveway, which I'm

550
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happy to send those pictures to

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show. Hey, I'm Sue Klein. I'm from Eight

552
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,640
Links Road. Um while the water right

553
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:52,559
now, my water issues are not a problem,

554
00:22:52,559 --> 00:22:55,919
I am concerned about the lacking of

555
00:22:55,919 --> 00:22:57,679
interest really in mitigating the

556
00:22:57,679 --> 00:22:59,919
impact. I mean, yes, they have moved the

557
00:22:59,919 --> 00:23:01,840
building out of the buffer zone, but

558
00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:04,880
these driveways still destroy a lot of

559
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,760
vegetation. These trees coming down, I

560
00:23:07,760 --> 00:23:10,799
think they said seven mature trees to

561
00:23:10,799 --> 00:23:14,000
replace that with only two saplings is

562
00:23:14,000 --> 00:23:17,600
usually um not enough. They usually do

563
00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,159
like if it's a 14-inch tree, they would

564
00:23:20,159 --> 00:23:23,919
expect 14 1-in saplings in replacement

565
00:23:23,919 --> 00:23:27,440
to even come close to being equal. But

566
00:23:27,440 --> 00:23:28,799
of course, the root systems of these

567
00:23:28,799 --> 00:23:31,120
mature trees and none of the mitigation

568
00:23:31,120 --> 00:23:32,640
plantings are anywhere near the building

569
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:34,559
site. So all the water's going to come

570
00:23:34,559 --> 00:23:37,919
down and probably destroy the plantings

571
00:23:37,919 --> 00:23:39,360
at the bottom because it'll be too much

572
00:23:39,360 --> 00:23:42,400
water for the system to even handle even

573
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:44,640
with with the swells and other things

574
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:46,400
that they've put in. There's so much

575
00:23:46,400 --> 00:23:48,960
water that comes down. The road is

576
00:23:48,960 --> 00:23:51,760
mostly just water um for a few days

577
00:23:51,760 --> 00:23:54,159
after any sort of a rain event or a

578
00:23:54,159 --> 00:23:57,440
melting event. Um, and I know that my

579
00:23:57,440 --> 00:23:59,760
previous owners have put had done a lot

580
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,240
to mitigate the water situation. So, I

581
00:24:02,240 --> 00:24:04,880
think I'm okay with how things are now,

582
00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,880
but I'm nervous with what will happen

583
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:11,029
with this right behind my house.

584
00:24:11,039 --> 00:24:13,200
» A couple hands up on the Zoom. The first

585
00:24:13,200 --> 00:24:18,710
is uh Jim Town.

586
00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,360
» Yes. Good evening. Thank you. Um, couple

587
00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:22,799
questions. Uh, I'll just follow up on

588
00:24:22,799 --> 00:24:25,600
the water and drainage. Um obviously um

589
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:27,200
there's a lot of water in this area and

590
00:24:27,200 --> 00:24:29,120
if you go back over um other

591
00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:32,880
conservation um projects uh brought in

592
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:35,200
front of here you'll see many issues um

593
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,360
a couple of them and have been raised by

594
00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:38,799
other residents who spoke here. So

595
00:24:38,799 --> 00:24:41,039
there's a lot of water issues. Um you

596
00:24:41,039 --> 00:24:43,039
know specifically on that you'll see at

597
00:24:43,039 --> 00:24:44,400
the area where there's the driveway

598
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,159
right now there's a actually a pipe that

599
00:24:46,159 --> 00:24:48,400
comes out uh that drains water out into

600
00:24:48,400 --> 00:24:50,320
the street in that area um off the

601
00:24:50,320 --> 00:24:51,919
property. It appears to be right where

602
00:24:51,919 --> 00:24:53,440
the driveway would be. So, I guess my

603
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:55,360
question would be um what's going to

604
00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:56,960
happen with that pipe? How it'll go into

605
00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:58,960
drainage that drains onto the street and

606
00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:00,960
then it goes over into the area where

607
00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:05,760
Bass Rocks um golf club uh has done a

608
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,360
bunch of mitigation with a sort of a

609
00:25:07,360 --> 00:25:09,679
retaining area there. So, so what

610
00:25:09,679 --> 00:25:11,360
happens with that pipe and that drainage

611
00:25:11,360 --> 00:25:13,760
into the area um because it does does

612
00:25:13,760 --> 00:25:16,480
flow right out of a sort of a PVC pipe.

613
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:20,720
Um the second thing is um before I guess

614
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:22,240
there was some commentary in the last

615
00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:24,320
meeting that was presented about one

616
00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,480
versus two driveways. I can see that

617
00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:28,960
there's been some moda modification uh

618
00:25:28,960 --> 00:25:32,000
with the movement of of the structures.

619
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,159
Um there's still sort of two driveways

620
00:25:34,159 --> 00:25:36,080
up. Um maybe it doesn't go all the way

621
00:25:36,080 --> 00:25:38,159
around. I can see on the newest map it

622
00:25:38,159 --> 00:25:39,840
goes direct but is there any

623
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:41,520
considerations about just having one

624
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,960
single driveway um you know around uh

625
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,440
you know these particular matters uh

626
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,799
with with with the water and into the um

627
00:25:50,799 --> 00:25:52,240
into the conservation area. So that's

628
00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:54,960
the second question. Third uh I had um

629
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,799
raised this before but I I don't think

630
00:25:56,799 --> 00:25:58,159
it was addressed from my previous

631
00:25:58,159 --> 00:26:00,159
comments. Um, I understand that there's

632
00:26:00,159 --> 00:26:02,480
uh could be some type of parking area

633
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,360
down at the bottom of the hill uh down

634
00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:07,200
uh into the area where the conservation

635
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:09,520
is or directly abuing it. And so I don't

636
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:14,240
see that on these maps and I wanted to find out uh from from the applicant

637
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:16,080
process if they're planning to put a

638
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,320
parking lot area in there um either

639
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:20,799
initially or in the future um because

640
00:26:20,799 --> 00:26:23,360
that also uh you know raises question

641
00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:24,880
about the water in the conservation

642
00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,400
area.

643
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:32,320
So that's my third question. Um and then going back to the um the the

644
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:34,720
trees um I I understand that from the

645
00:26:34,720 --> 00:26:36,640
last meeting there was a request and I

646
00:26:36,640 --> 00:26:39,120
see some pictures posted online um but

647
00:26:39,120 --> 00:26:40,320
you know some trees are going to be

648
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:41,919
removed. I can't remember the exact

649
00:26:41,919 --> 00:26:46,080
total seven or 10 I can't remember but I understood that they were going to be

650
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,679
sort of mapped out to show where those

651
00:26:47,679 --> 00:26:49,360
trees were going to be removed. There

652
00:26:49,360 --> 00:26:50,880
was some some commentary by the

653
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:53,440
conservation um about removing the trees

654
00:26:53,440 --> 00:26:54,799
especially on the hillside and other

655
00:26:54,799 --> 00:26:57,360
areas. Um, and so I'm just interested to

656
00:26:57,360 --> 00:26:58,960
see which trees are going to be removed

657
00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:02,400
where. So, thank you.

658
00:27:02,400 --> 00:27:09,029
>> We have another hand up. Tracy Kio.

659
00:27:09,039 --> 00:27:11,200
» Hi. Thanks very much. My husband Joseph

660
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:13,679
is here. We're 20 links Road.

661
00:27:13,679 --> 00:27:16,400
>> We're just I just wanted to echo the

662
00:27:16,400 --> 00:27:18,960
comments of the previous speaker. Have

663
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,120
similar concerns. We get a lot of

664
00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:24,400
puddling uh up at the top of our drive.

665
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,640
And when I looked at the map that was

666
00:27:26,640 --> 00:27:28,159
there,

667
00:27:28,159 --> 00:27:30,080
um, initially, not the one that you just

668
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,240
showed, uh, I was concerned about the

669
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:34,080
amount of slab that was going to be put

670
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:37,679
down. Um, you reduce that a little bit,

671
00:27:37,679 --> 00:27:40,400
but I'm going to emphasize and echo that

672
00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:43,279
the driveway uh, a lotments here are

673
00:27:43,279 --> 00:27:45,840
just too excessive for that area. Uh,

674
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,799
everyone will experience much more water

675
00:27:48,799 --> 00:27:51,039
uh, coming down there, even as in the

676
00:27:51,039 --> 00:27:53,520
revised plan. And I'm concerned also

677
00:27:53,520 --> 00:27:55,039
about

678
00:27:55,039 --> 00:28:00,640
the uh I guess lot number 17,

679
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,919
the way that drive makes that curve. Um

680
00:28:03,919 --> 00:28:06,559
I don't know if that is required for

681
00:28:06,559 --> 00:28:08,720
some reason or other, but I think that

682
00:28:08,720 --> 00:28:11,760
needs to be redesigned too. Uh it's it's

683
00:28:11,760 --> 00:28:14,320
actually going to create more problems

684
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:17,679
down at the base of that um street at

685
00:28:17,679 --> 00:28:20,480
Lynx Road. and and this may not be

686
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,200
directly related to your conservation uh

687
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:27,120
duties, but that drive is blind now for

688
00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:29,600
anybody coming down Lynx Road in the

689
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,320
opposite direction. So that needs to be

690
00:28:32,320 --> 00:28:34,720
addressed no matter what, either in this

691
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,159
circumstance or later on. But right now,

692
00:28:38,159 --> 00:28:41,840
as the plan exists, and there's no

693
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,799
other, as I understand it, mechanism for

694
00:28:44,799 --> 00:28:46,640
dealing with the runoffs that occur in

695
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:49,520
that area. Now, there's no plan to deal

696
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:53,039
with these um runoffs should they get uh

697
00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:55,120
worse by putting in this thing. When I

698
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,279
look at this structure, I think it's

699
00:28:57,279 --> 00:28:58,720
going to get a lot worse and I think

700
00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,159
people are going to be very very

701
00:29:00,159 --> 00:29:04,389
concerned about that.

702
00:29:04,399 --> 00:29:08,630
» Thank you very much.

703
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:13,669
» We have one more hand up. David Winer.

704
00:29:13,679 --> 00:29:16,000
Hi, this is David Winer at three Lynx

705
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,799
Road unit A. I just wanted to to

706
00:29:18,799 --> 00:29:20,559
emphasize virtually all the comments

707
00:29:20,559 --> 00:29:22,960
that have been made. I mean, we at the

708
00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:27,039
low end of Lynx Road um are the lowest

709
00:29:27,039 --> 00:29:30,320
um elevation in Links Road. And as you

710
00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:32,000
know, that's the that's where the water

711
00:29:32,000 --> 00:29:35,600
ends up. And so, um, I would like to be

712
00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:38,000
assured that any construction that goes

713
00:29:38,000 --> 00:29:40,960
on in Lynx Road, um, doesn't add to the

714
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:43,360
existing problems we have, which are

715
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:45,840
very, very difficult to deal with. Thank

716
00:29:45,840 --> 00:29:51,669
you.

717
00:29:51,679 --> 00:29:54,399
» We have no other hands up at this time.

718
00:29:54,399 --> 00:29:57,840
>> Okay. Um, moving to Commissioner

719
00:29:57,840 --> 00:29:59,440
comments.

720
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:01,840
member Cook

721
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:03,760
like to thank you for all the changes

722
00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,480
that you've made, John. Um, and really

723
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,799
that's all I have. I I It's going to be

724
00:30:08,799 --> 00:30:12,720
a tough area no matter what. Um,

725
00:30:12,720 --> 00:30:14,320
but

726
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:15,919
I think you've addressed all of the

727
00:30:15,919 --> 00:30:18,559
major concerns that we had last year. I

728
00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:21,360
mean, or at last meeting.

729
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,640
That's all I have.

730
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,320
Thank you for making the changes to the

731
00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,799
plan regarding drainage improvements and

732
00:30:28,799 --> 00:30:31,039
mitigation plantings. I encourage the

733
00:30:31,039 --> 00:30:32,960
property owners to continue to work with

734
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:34,880
neighbors, see if there's something that

735
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,279
they can collectively do to ease a

736
00:30:37,279 --> 00:30:38,880
difficult neighborhood drainage problem.

737
00:30:38,880 --> 00:30:43,360
It's been going on for years and years. Um there must be a two-year

738
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:44,880
monitoring for the mortality of all

739
00:30:44,880 --> 00:30:47,200
mitigation plantings and all water must

740
00:30:47,200 --> 00:30:49,120
be adequately treated or being

741
00:30:49,120 --> 00:30:51,600
discharged.

742
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,600
Uh, member Elites,

743
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:56,000
>> a couple questions. The the mitigation

744
00:30:56,000 --> 00:30:58,640
at the bottom of the road, is that just

745
00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:00,880
for the area of the driveway at the

746
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,399
bottom of the road or does that include

747
00:31:02,399 --> 00:31:08,389
some of the area of that upper buffer zone

748
00:31:08,399 --> 00:31:11,200
» and at the end you'll answer right now.

749
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:12,640
>> Oh, okay.

750
00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:17,679
uh one of my questions and um you know I might echo a little one of the

751
00:31:17,679 --> 00:31:20,399
concerns of the public comment that if

752
00:31:20,399 --> 00:31:23,600
that's not the case then I do wonder

753
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,240
about the mitigation for the area the

754
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:28,960
driveways that goes over the buffer zone

755
00:31:28,960 --> 00:31:32,080
in that upper um and I could see maybe

756
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,480
if looks like a big number down there

757
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:36,559
maybe it's inclusive of that and maybe

758
00:31:36,559 --> 00:31:38,159
there's a reason why they can't get

759
00:31:38,159 --> 00:31:40,080
plantings closer to the resource there

760
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,000
because a ledge or

761
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,919
um I could understand if that might be

762
00:31:43,919 --> 00:31:46,240
the case, but if there's no mitigation

763
00:31:46,240 --> 00:31:48,799
at all for those areas, I think, you

764
00:31:48,799 --> 00:31:52,559
know, that may need to be discussed. Um

765
00:31:52,559 --> 00:31:56,240
and in the past meeting, there was um a

766
00:31:56,240 --> 00:31:58,960
comment that the

767
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,200
infiltration bail was also going to be

768
00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,360
the line of disturbance. And if that's

769
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:05,600
still the case, I'd like to note that in

770
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:17,350
the order of condition.

771
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:20,799
» Okay. Um,

772
00:32:20,799 --> 00:32:23,919
>> you want to go ahead and uh address the

773
00:32:23,919 --> 00:32:26,559
>> I I didn't know if uh uh Mr. Shade had

774
00:32:26,559 --> 00:32:27,519
any comments.

775
00:32:27,519 --> 00:32:28,799
>> I I don't have anything additional at

776
00:32:28,799 --> 00:32:29,360
this time.

777
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:31,600
>> Okay. Thank you. Uh maybe I'll just go

778
00:32:31,600 --> 00:32:33,360
in reverse order while it's all fresh.

779
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:37,519
Um uh memory li uh had a question on

780
00:32:37,519 --> 00:32:39,919
mitigation. So we have the mitigation uh

781
00:32:39,919 --> 00:32:42,960
chart uh shown the total that includes

782
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,200
all of the mitigation and it was

783
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:46,960
emphasized at the last hearing where all

784
00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:48,720
the water is heading down toward Lynx

785
00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:50,960
Road. Maybe additional mitigation in

786
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:54,000
that area would be uh beneficial uh

787
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:57,039
coupled with the uh storm water uh

788
00:32:57,039 --> 00:32:58,880
infiltration swale that's proposed

789
00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:01,840
there. Um again, everything is

790
00:33:01,840 --> 00:33:03,120
everything that's proposed here is

791
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,840
pvious in terms of the driveway surface.

792
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:08,480
So we're not only not increasing the

793
00:33:08,480 --> 00:33:10,640
rate of runoff here, uh but we're going

794
00:33:10,640 --> 00:33:12,799
to the the plan is to improve the

795
00:33:12,799 --> 00:33:17,279
situation of any runoff coming down this road. We are proposing as far as

796
00:33:17,279 --> 00:33:20,399
buffer zone mitigation over 14 trees. Uh

797
00:33:20,399 --> 00:33:22,159
so I'm not sure where the butterhead

798
00:33:22,159 --> 00:33:24,880
that uh two or three saplings. I'm not

799
00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,840
sure where that came from. Um with with

800
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,799
respect to the drainage uh the applicant

801
00:33:30,799 --> 00:33:34,000
is fully aware of this. Uh this 6 and 12

802
00:33:34,000 --> 00:33:37,360
acres here at halfacre zoning. Um city

803
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,600
sewer uh you know any aggressive

804
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:42,240
developer could come in here and really

805
00:33:42,240 --> 00:33:44,320
uh try to do something more aggressive

806
00:33:44,320 --> 00:33:46,880
in terms of at least attempt it to do

807
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,120
more of a an aggressive subdivision. And

808
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,159
that's not it at all what anyone wants

809
00:33:52,159 --> 00:33:53,360
uh particularly people in the

810
00:33:53,360 --> 00:33:55,519
neighborhood uh nor the uh the

811
00:33:55,519 --> 00:33:58,640
applicant. So I think there's been you

812
00:33:58,640 --> 00:34:00,880
know in addition to the efforts that the

813
00:34:00,880 --> 00:34:02,559
uh it's been made to move everything out

814
00:34:02,559 --> 00:34:04,000
of the buffer zone as far as the

815
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,440
structure at the top uh in the Keystone

816
00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:11,119
driveway and no blasting. Um I you know

817
00:34:11,119 --> 00:34:13,760
I I think I would commend uh the the

818
00:34:13,760 --> 00:34:16,240
applicant for for what's been proposed

819
00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:18,879
and the changes associated with that. In

820
00:34:18,879 --> 00:34:22,399
terms of the uh limit of work uh it's

821
00:34:22,399 --> 00:34:24,480
we're absolutely

822
00:34:24,480 --> 00:34:27,040
okay with that erosion control as shown

823
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:28,960
being the limit of work. I think that

824
00:34:28,960 --> 00:34:32,320
was one of the questions. Uh and uh

825
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:35,520
again the drainage is the primary

826
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:38,159
concern of the abos as it should be. Uh

827
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:39,919
historically as long as I can remember

828
00:34:39,919 --> 00:34:42,240
there's always been drainage uh issues

829
00:34:42,240 --> 00:34:43,760
uh you know playing the golf course and

830
00:34:43,760 --> 00:34:45,119
so forth and that's where it all ends

831
00:34:45,119 --> 00:34:46,560
up. It's not going to end up over at

832
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:48,720
number three uh over there at Harriet

833
00:34:48,720 --> 00:34:49,919
Road. It's not going to end up over

834
00:34:49,919 --> 00:34:51,919
there because that's a higher elevation.

835
00:34:51,919 --> 00:34:56,720
Uh everything that does come off this site uh will continue to uh come

836
00:34:56,720 --> 00:34:58,320
off the site. uh it's not going to rain

837
00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:00,720
any more or less now that this uh should

838
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:02,400
this be approved. Uh it's our

839
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,119
responsibility to mitigate it to the

840
00:35:05,119 --> 00:35:07,280
extent possible. Uh it was requested

841
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:09,760
that the driveway have a an infiltration

842
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:12,400
swale. You can see the driveway section

843
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:14,079
uh that's been added to the plan. So

844
00:35:14,079 --> 00:35:15,280
we're going to have a swale all the way

845
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:17,280
down this driveway to help infiltrate

846
00:35:17,280 --> 00:35:19,760
any runoff that might be coming off of

847
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:21,760
the driveway. And as far as moving it

848
00:35:21,760 --> 00:35:24,560
away from the Kio property uh and closer

849
00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,560
to the town property, I'm not sure Mr.

850
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,119
town would like that. But uh this is uh

851
00:35:29,119 --> 00:35:31,520
the uh the elevations here uh would

852
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:33,599
support the driveway location as it's

853
00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:35,440
shown. That's pretty much where there's

854
00:35:35,440 --> 00:35:38,880
an existing u gravel parking area. Now

855
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:41,359
there is no plan to have a a larger

856
00:35:41,359 --> 00:35:42,800
parking area. That was one of the

857
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,119
concerns of the neighbors and that's not

858
00:35:45,119 --> 00:35:47,839
at all uh what's proposed. Should any

859
00:35:47,839 --> 00:35:50,800
change uh be uh asked or requested of

860
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,079
this plan, it would have to come back

861
00:35:52,079 --> 00:35:55,119
before this commission. So, uh that is

862
00:35:55,119 --> 00:35:57,200
uh there is no plan to do any parking

863
00:35:57,200 --> 00:35:59,119
area at the bottom and we're trying to

864
00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:02,560
enhance that lower area with additional

865
00:36:02,560 --> 00:36:05,280
mitigation plantings over 2300 square ft

866
00:36:05,280 --> 00:36:08,400
where right now there's a lot of um just

867
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:11,760
tall grasses and gravel uh right now. Um

868
00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:14,000
so in an old tennis court so that would

869
00:36:14,000 --> 00:36:16,800
uh the plan is to be u mitigated with

870
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:20,720
native plantings and I I believe I

871
00:36:20,720 --> 00:36:22,400
addressed most of these concerns if not

872
00:36:22,400 --> 00:36:23,839
all. Mr. Chairman, I can answer any

873
00:36:23,839 --> 00:36:27,119
other questions you might have.

874
00:36:27,119 --> 00:36:29,359
>> Um, commissioners, anybody have anything

875
00:36:29,359 --> 00:36:32,880
else they'd like to add?

876
00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:35,599
>> Okay, John. Uh, we have three uh we have

877
00:36:35,599 --> 00:36:37,599
three members, so we need all three

878
00:36:37,599 --> 00:36:39,520
members to vote for this. Do you want us

879
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:40,800
to vote tonight?

880
00:36:40,800 --> 00:36:43,200
>> Yes, please.

881
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,560
>> Member Cook, we do have uh Butters that

882
00:36:46,560 --> 00:36:48,320
uh I guess want to make more comments. I

883
00:36:48,320 --> 00:36:49,440
don't know if you want to allow that or

884
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,599
not.

885
00:36:51,599 --> 00:36:53,200
Yeah, go ahead.

886
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:55,119
>> Sorry. Thank you. I I just have one

887
00:36:55,119 --> 00:36:58,960
follow-up question. Is there a plan to

888
00:36:58,960 --> 00:37:03,359
um replace or fix the road as it gets

889
00:37:03,359 --> 00:37:06,560
damaged with larger vehicles

890
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,320
um and construction going up and down

891
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:13,910
that road?

892
00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:15,599
Is that something I can answer now, Mr.

893
00:37:15,599 --> 00:37:16,240
Chairman?

894
00:37:16,240 --> 00:37:18,320
>> Sure. Go ahead, John. Yeah, I can I can

895
00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,720
assure you that this applicant will

896
00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:23,760
replace any and all damage to this

897
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,560
private road. Uh, you know, it's it's

898
00:37:26,560 --> 00:37:28,720
just not the makeup of this applicant.

899
00:37:28,720 --> 00:37:31,599
Very uh well known in the community and

900
00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:34,880
a very solid builder uh with a excellent

901
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:37,280
reputation for quality. So, uh, I can

902
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,839
assure you, uh, on my own reputation

903
00:37:39,839 --> 00:37:42,079
that that any damage that should that

904
00:37:42,079 --> 00:37:43,440
isn't already there that's going to

905
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,079
happen, should it happen, uh, will will

906
00:37:46,079 --> 00:37:47,680
be repaired.

907
00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,000
>> May we make that as a a condition?

908
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:52,079
>> Sure. Yeah, it's obviously it's in the

909
00:37:52,079 --> 00:37:54,240
buffer zone, so that's absolutely within

910
00:37:54,240 --> 00:37:57,040
your purview to do that.

911
00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:57,839
>> Appreciate that. Thank you.

912
00:37:57,839 --> 00:37:59,839
>> We do have another hand up on the Zoom

913
00:37:59,839 --> 00:38:01,760
if you want to allow that.

914
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,680
>> Go ahead.

915
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,920
Uh Jim,

916
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,720
>> hi. A couple things. Um just actually in

917
00:38:08,720 --> 00:38:10,640
comment to that. I would just point out

918
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:13,040
uh for the commission and uh Mr. Judge,

919
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,400
you might be aware actually the

920
00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:16,480
applicant paved in front of there before

921
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:18,320
at their own cost. I understand it a few

922
00:38:18,320 --> 00:38:19,599
years ago to make sure they were

923
00:38:19,599 --> 00:38:22,000
maintaining in front of that. So from my

924
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:24,800
perspective, I I would agree uh in terms

925
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,119
of I I would imagine that if there was

926
00:38:27,119 --> 00:38:29,280
any issue like that that the applicant

927
00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:30,720
um would take care of it. That's that's

928
00:38:30,720 --> 00:38:32,960
been the history that I've seen as well.

929
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:34,800
Um I think you satisfied the other

930
00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,640
questions that I had. So thank you for

931
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:39,040
that. The only question is is that is do

932
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:40,960
we have any understanding of where the

933
00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,119
trees would be removed and replaced on

934
00:38:43,119 --> 00:38:44,640
this map or is that something that would

935
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,640
come out at a further time? Otherwise I

936
00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:48,320
have no other questions or comments uh

937
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:52,870
or objections. So thank you.

938
00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:54,160
» Want to answer John?

939
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:56,400
>> Sure. Yeah. The tree uh Mr. Sergeant had

940
00:38:56,400 --> 00:38:59,040
asked uh where that tree was. Uh the

941
00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,119
large tree up up top and that is it's

942
00:39:01,119 --> 00:39:03,119
outside the buffer zone, but it's close

943
00:39:03,119 --> 00:39:06,079
to the area of work. Uh if you'd like, I

944
00:39:06,079 --> 00:39:08,720
can show my screen, but it's uh it's the

945
00:39:08,720 --> 00:39:12,160
totality of the trees that we um you

946
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:14,400
know, as you know, the last meeting uh

947
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,960
we had some snow on the ground, but uh

948
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:18,640
we were hammered after that with

949
00:39:18,640 --> 00:39:22,000
snowstorms. So we use the aerial uh the

950
00:39:22,000 --> 00:39:25,119
aerial information uh to couple what we

951
00:39:25,119 --> 00:39:27,200
already located. We have several trees

952
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,599
that are shown survey located but there

953
00:39:29,599 --> 00:39:31,760
was some aerial uh additional trees that

954
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:35,920
we were able to uh you know augment our

955
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,680
uh our trees. So a lot of these are

956
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,119
outside the buffer zone. Uh but uh I'm

957
00:39:41,119 --> 00:39:43,760
not sure if that answers a question but

958
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:45,359
throughout the site throughout the 6 and

959
00:39:45,359 --> 00:39:47,599
12 acre site.

960
00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:50,480
So, can I just clarification? Are the

961
00:39:50,480 --> 00:39:53,040
saplings being planted

962
00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:54,720
near where these trees are being taken

963
00:39:54,720 --> 00:39:56,640
down or they're all being planted at the

964
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,040
bottom of that mitigation area? Because

965
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,320
it wasn't two saplings for for the seven

966
00:40:02,320 --> 00:40:04,480
trees. You were saying two saplings for

967
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:07,280
one tree, but one tree needs probably at

968
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,000
least 14 to 30 saplings to equal the

969
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,200
water uptake. Because having drainage

970
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,440
just means the water flows. A tree will

971
00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,680
actually take the water up and out,

972
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:20,240
which is what we need in that system for

973
00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:22,800
the water not to keep doing the damage

974
00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:25,520
that it's doing to all of the yards and

975
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,400
all the current plantings. I mean,

976
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:30,560
drain, you can put in drainage, but that

977
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:32,240
means the water is still going. The

978
00:40:32,240 --> 00:40:34,560
trees and the vegetation take the water

979
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,960
out of the system.

980
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:40,720
No, I I don't dispute uh that uh evapo

981
00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:43,760
transpiration, infiltration and uh

982
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,000
everything associated with the water

983
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:48,800
budget uh from the pre and post

984
00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:51,520
conditions here. Uh the trees are an

985
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,000
important factor. Uh and the applicant

986
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:56,319
is fully on board with uh trying to

987
00:40:56,319 --> 00:40:59,359
replace uh and making the the least

988
00:40:59,359 --> 00:41:01,359
amount of damage. I think the the

989
00:41:01,359 --> 00:41:03,440
efforts been made in terms of the pvious

990
00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,160
surfaces. There's no pvious imperous

991
00:41:06,160 --> 00:41:08,160
surface proposed particularly in the

992
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,960
buffer zone other than the roof runoff

993
00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:13,040
and that's going to be handled through

994
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:15,200
uh open infiltration swells as shown on

995
00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,400
the plan. Uh in addition uh this any

996
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:20,800
plan associated with a building permit

997
00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:23,680
has to be also approved by the uh city

998
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:25,680
engineer. So, anything outside the

999
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,240
buffer zone, ma'am, uh I strongly

1000
00:41:28,240 --> 00:41:30,000
recommend that you get in touch with the

1001
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:32,960
city engineer uh and and coincide with

1002
00:41:32,960 --> 00:41:34,640
them as far as any concerns you might

1003
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:35,359
have.

1004
00:41:35,359 --> 00:41:38,400
>> Thank you.

1005
00:41:38,400 --> 00:41:40,480
>> Anybody else? Chuck,

1006
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:42,560
>> we have no other hands up at this time.

1007
00:41:42,560 --> 00:41:44,560
>> Okay, seeing none hearing none, I'll

1008
00:41:44,560 --> 00:41:48,480
close the public comment period.

1009
00:41:48,480 --> 00:41:50,560
>> Sergeant moves to close the public

1010
00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:52,480
comment period.

1011
00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:55,040
>> 80 seconds. Roll call. Member Cook.

1012
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:56,720
>> Yes.

1013
00:41:56,720 --> 00:41:58,000
>> Member Elites.

1014
00:41:58,000 --> 00:42:01,190
>> Yes.

1015
00:42:01,200 --> 00:42:09,190
» Moves to um approve 14 uh Ny 028311

1016
00:42:09,200 --> 00:42:11,839
14 and 16 links road with the approved

1017
00:42:11,839 --> 00:42:14,720
discussed conditions including road

1018
00:42:14,720 --> 00:42:18,160
repair if needed.

1019
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:19,520
>> 80 seconds.

1020
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,440
>> Call member Cook.

1021
00:42:21,440 --> 00:42:22,240
>> Yes.

1022
00:42:22,240 --> 00:42:22,720
>> Present.

1023
00:42:22,720 --> 00:42:24,319
>> Yes. member ladies.

1024
00:42:24,319 --> 00:42:26,720
>> Yes.

1025
00:42:26,720 --> 00:42:28,000
>> Okay. Thank you, John.

1026
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:32,790
>> Thank you very much.

1027
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,040
» For the record, Commissioner Jackson

1028
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:36,720
returns to the meeting.

1029
00:42:36,720 --> 00:42:38,640
>> Okay. For the record, Commissioner Cook

1030
00:42:38,640 --> 00:42:41,200
has to recuse from this.

1031
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:43,119
>> Okay.

1032
00:42:43,119 --> 00:42:47,520
All right. Next up is extension 0282523

1033
00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:50,640
at 16 Burberry Lane by Davis Associates,

1034
00:42:50,640 --> 00:42:53,119
Inc. And there has been a request to

1035
00:42:53,119 --> 00:42:55,119
withdraw this application without

1036
00:42:55,119 --> 00:42:57,040
prejudice.

1037
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,040
Mr. Sergeant

1038
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:03,520
>> Mr. Sergeant um moves to um approve the

1039
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,920
request to withdraw without prejudice.

1040
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,400
>> Commissioner second

1041
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:09,440
call member Sergeant.

1042
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,040
>> Yes. Member Elitees

1043
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:12,319
>> and member Jackson.

1044
00:43:12,319 --> 00:43:15,440
>> Yes. Okay. Moving on.

1045
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:16,960
>> For the record, Commissioner Cook

1046
00:43:16,960 --> 00:43:21,520
returned. Moving on, we have NOI 0283114

1047
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:25,599
at 22 and 22 rear Eastern Point Road by

1048
00:43:25,599 --> 00:43:27,839
Thomas Schmidt. And there has been a

1049
00:43:27,839 --> 00:43:29,839
request to continue this to the meeting

1050
00:43:29,839 --> 00:43:33,599
of April 1st, 2026.

1051
00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:36,480
>> Commissioner Cook moves

1052
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:41,200
uh requests move NOI 0283114

1053
00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:43,680
to the conservation meeting of April

1054
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,480
1st, 2026.

1055
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:47,680
Sergeant seconds.

1056
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:48,960
>> Call member Cooker.

1057
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:49,760
>> Yes.

1058
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,599
>> Sergeant, yes. Memberes,

1059
00:43:51,599 --> 00:43:52,319
>> yes.

1060
00:43:52,319 --> 00:43:53,040
>> Jackson,

1061
00:43:53,040 --> 00:43:58,240
>> yes. And next up, we have NOI 0283115

1062
00:43:58,240 --> 00:44:01,440
at 75 Essex Avenue um owned by Dominic

1063
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:03,520
Realy Trust for a new building addition

1064
00:44:03,520 --> 00:44:05,599
to existing building and replacement of

1065
00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:07,760
structure in existing footprint in

1066
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:10,240
riverfront area, land subject to coastal

1067
00:44:10,240 --> 00:44:12,800
storm flowage and buffer zone to coastal

1068
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,520
resource area. presented by John Jud,

1069
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,240
Gateway Consultants, Inc.

1070
00:44:18,240 --> 00:44:20,560
>> Uh thank you, Madame Chair. Once again,

1071
00:44:20,560 --> 00:44:22,160
John Jud, engineer with Gateway

1072
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,920
Consultants, representing uh the

1073
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:27,680
applicant at 75 Essex A. Uh there was uh

1074
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:29,599
some comments and some notes I took from

1075
00:44:29,599 --> 00:44:32,160
the last meeting. We followed up with

1076
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:35,440
some modifications to the uh operations

1077
00:44:35,440 --> 00:44:38,319
and maintenance uh plan that was

1078
00:44:38,319 --> 00:44:41,760
requested by uh Commissioner Sergeant as

1079
00:44:41,760 --> 00:44:43,839
far as any potential accident or spills

1080
00:44:43,839 --> 00:44:45,359
within the building. We've modified

1081
00:44:45,359 --> 00:44:49,119
that. We've also modified the uh uh

1082
00:44:49,119 --> 00:44:52,079
standard number five on that application

1083
00:44:52,079 --> 00:44:56,240
uh to uh improve to sort of explain in a

1084
00:44:56,240 --> 00:44:59,359
narrative uh the uh improvements and so

1085
00:44:59,359 --> 00:45:02,000
forth associated with the um to the

1086
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,960
extent possible portion of uh the

1087
00:45:04,960 --> 00:45:07,920
riverfront uh storm water u

1088
00:45:07,920 --> 00:45:10,720
calculations. Uh we did add a storm

1089
00:45:10,720 --> 00:45:13,440
scepter uh for the metal roof runoff

1090
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:15,440
that was requested. That's an inline

1091
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,640
storm water um storm septer that was

1092
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,599
added to the plan as well. Uh and I

1093
00:45:21,599 --> 00:45:23,839
think that was the uh really the

1094
00:45:23,839 --> 00:45:26,800
essential uh

1095
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,319
comments. Uh unless I missed something

1096
00:45:30,319 --> 00:45:32,079
um I can answer any questions you might

1097
00:45:32,079 --> 00:45:33,920
have.

1098
00:45:33,920 --> 00:45:36,160
>> Okay, we'll open this up first for

1099
00:45:36,160 --> 00:45:38,640
public comment. Is there anyone Is there

1100
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:40,720
anyone in the audience who wishes to

1101
00:45:40,720 --> 00:45:42,960
comment on the project at 75 Essex

1102
00:45:42,960 --> 00:45:45,520
Avenue?

1103
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:47,920
Uh we have no hands up in person and

1104
00:45:47,920 --> 00:45:49,680
none on the Zoom.

1105
00:45:49,680 --> 00:45:51,599
>> Okay. In that case, I will close the

1106
00:45:51,599 --> 00:45:53,359
public comment period. We'll move on to

1107
00:45:53,359 --> 00:45:55,520
commissioner comments.

1108
00:45:55,520 --> 00:45:56,400
>> Cook.

1109
00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,280
>> Um I have no additional comments.

1110
00:45:59,280 --> 00:45:59,839
>> Sergeant,

1111
00:45:59,839 --> 00:46:02,240
>> no comments. Ladies,

1112
00:46:02,240 --> 00:46:03,440
>> no comments.

1113
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,040
>> Jackson,

1114
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:07,680
>> um just a couple of comments. Um just

1115
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:11,359
making sure of things. Um,

1116
00:46:11,359 --> 00:46:13,440
you've have the narrative on meeting

1117
00:46:13,440 --> 00:46:16,880
each storm water standard. Um, Chuck had

1118
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:19,200
requested a flood path analysis, I

1119
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:22,319
believe. Um, you've done the O andM,

1120
00:46:22,319 --> 00:46:24,720
you've done the storm septer and metal

1121
00:46:24,720 --> 00:46:26,560
roofs. We had talked about having some

1122
00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:30,400
kind of a coating and there was going to

1123
00:46:30,400 --> 00:46:32,400
be a twoft separation between the

1124
00:46:32,400 --> 00:46:34,319
chamber bottom and groundwater or there

1125
00:46:34,319 --> 00:46:36,240
would be a mound analysis. Those are the

1126
00:46:36,240 --> 00:46:39,200
things I had down. Um Chuck, did you

1127
00:46:39,200 --> 00:46:41,440
have anything to say to that or in

1128
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,839
addition?

1129
00:46:43,839 --> 00:46:45,520
>> Uh

1130
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:46,960
nothing in addition.

1131
00:46:46,960 --> 00:46:48,480
>> Okay, John.

1132
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,640
>> Uh sure. Uh thank you, Madam Chair. As

1133
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,520
far as the the mounding, uh so when you

1134
00:46:53,520 --> 00:46:56,079
have a redevelopment, uh you you meet

1135
00:46:56,079 --> 00:46:58,079
the standards to the extent possible. Uh

1136
00:46:58,079 --> 00:46:59,599
so in other words, you're not going to

1137
00:46:59,599 --> 00:47:02,319
be able to to to meet the 100red-year

1138
00:47:02,319 --> 00:47:04,480
event and everything associated with it.

1139
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,640
say if this was a pristine riverfront

1140
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:10,560
area or uh a a brand new development,

1141
00:47:10,560 --> 00:47:12,960
this is a redevelopment. So the intent

1142
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:16,880
here uh of the storm water uh section

1143
00:47:16,880 --> 00:47:19,440
five standard five is to improve to the

1144
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,839
extent practicable and those are the uh

1145
00:47:21,839 --> 00:47:24,960
the actual words. Uh we we looked at the

1146
00:47:24,960 --> 00:47:27,119
option of treating the roof. Uh but

1147
00:47:27,119 --> 00:47:29,040
that's not something that first of all

1148
00:47:29,040 --> 00:47:31,359
it's cost prohibitive to do that and you

1149
00:47:31,359 --> 00:47:33,520
and eventually that'll wear off over

1150
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:35,280
time. So what we decided to do is

1151
00:47:35,280 --> 00:47:38,319
connect all the the roof runoffs uh

1152
00:47:38,319 --> 00:47:41,280
leaders into the storm scepter uh which

1153
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,359
is a proprietary

1154
00:47:43,359 --> 00:47:46,160
uh part of the on andm that needs to be

1155
00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:48,079
maintained and inspected. So that's

1156
00:47:48,079 --> 00:47:50,960
actually a good thing because eventually

1157
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,599
uh coatings and so forth wear off. So

1158
00:47:53,599 --> 00:47:57,040
that was in lie of the potential coating

1159
00:47:57,040 --> 00:47:59,599
of that roof. Uh that was a question I

1160
00:47:59,599 --> 00:48:01,200
believe of the applicant whether we can

1161
00:48:01,200 --> 00:48:03,119
code it or that. And I did talk to the

1162
00:48:03,119 --> 00:48:05,680
GC and he it's very expensive to do

1163
00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,960
that. It it's it doesn't last forever.

1164
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,800
Uh

1165
00:48:10,800 --> 00:48:14,000
and um as far as flood vents, they're

1166
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,400
all included uh on the design drawings

1167
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:17,520
and that'll be part of the building

1168
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:19,599
permit process. I think that was one of

1169
00:48:19,599 --> 00:48:21,599
the concerns.

1170
00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:24,480
>> Okay. And Chuck, you have no additional

1171
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:26,720
concerns. I know you had some eyes to be

1172
00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:29,760
dotted and tees to be crossed. No, I

1173
00:48:29,760 --> 00:48:31,920
think I think the only thing uh really

1174
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:34,000
would just be revisit that that page on

1175
00:48:34,000 --> 00:48:35,760
the checklist to make sure the box

1176
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:37,520
correct box is checked for uh standard

1177
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:38,720
five.

1178
00:48:38,720 --> 00:48:41,040
>> Okay.

1179
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,520
Then I think we can go ahead with

1180
00:48:43,520 --> 00:48:46,160
this. Um would somebody like to close

1181
00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:48,240
the public hearing?

1182
00:48:48,240 --> 00:48:50,000
>> Commissioner Cook moves to close the

1183
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:54,950
public hearing for NOI 0283115.

1184
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:59,200
» Sergeant seconds. All member Cook. Yes.

1185
00:48:59,200 --> 00:48:59,680
>> Sergeant.

1186
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:01,200
>> Yes. Member Eliadis.

1187
00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:01,680
>> Yes.

1188
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:02,800
>> Member Jackson.

1189
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:04,400
>> Yes.

1190
00:49:04,400 --> 00:49:06,960
>> Commissioner Cook moves to approve NOI

1191
00:49:06,960 --> 00:49:10,790
0283115.

1192
00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:12,000
» Sergeant seconds.

1193
00:49:12,000 --> 00:49:13,359
>> Call. Member Cook.

1194
00:49:13,359 --> 00:49:14,079
>> Yes.

1195
00:49:14,079 --> 00:49:14,880
>> Member Sergeant.

1196
00:49:14,880 --> 00:49:15,200
>> Yes.

1197
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:16,160
>> Member Lees.

1198
00:49:16,160 --> 00:49:16,480
>> Yes.

1199
00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:17,839
>> And member Jackson.

1200
00:49:17,839 --> 00:49:19,839
>> Yes. All right.

1201
00:49:19,839 --> 00:49:21,280
>> Thank you very much. Appreciate it.

1202
00:49:21,280 --> 00:49:23,119
>> You're very welcome.

1203
00:49:23,119 --> 00:49:26,079
Next up, we have NOI028-3112

1204
00:49:26,079 --> 00:49:28,720
at 95 Eastern Point Boulevard, Jennifer

1205
00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:30,800
and Robert Colulbert to raise and

1206
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,359
rebuild of existing home, repairs to

1207
00:49:33,359 --> 00:49:35,440
existing septic system, new pool,

1208
00:49:35,440 --> 00:49:38,960
terrace and associated land hardscaping

1209
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:41,280
in land subject to coastal storm flowage

1210
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,280
and buffer zone to coastal resource

1211
00:49:43,280 --> 00:49:45,760
area. Represented by Bill Manuel,

1212
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:48,800
Wetlands and Land Management, Inc.

1213
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:51,359
>> Good evening, Bill Manuel here. Jason

1214
00:49:51,359 --> 00:49:53,599
Camps is the ex building expert for the

1215
00:49:53,599 --> 00:49:55,839
project is just off camera here and John

1216
00:49:55,839 --> 00:49:57,920
is is joining us by Zoom this evening.

1217
00:49:57,920 --> 00:50:00,800
He's the engineer of record. Um we had

1218
00:50:00,800 --> 00:50:02,160
our first hearing and Chuck would you

1219
00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:05,040
mind putting the plan up the latest plan

1220
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,440
we did reconvene with the butter Mr.

1221
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,920
Gordon who was at the last meeting. I

1222
00:50:09,920 --> 00:50:14,160
believe we have uh mutually arrived at

1223
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:17,440
uh solutions for preserving as much

1224
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:19,280
vegetation as we can between the two

1225
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,440
properties in that little what they call

1226
00:50:21,440 --> 00:50:23,599
the micro forest

1227
00:50:23,599 --> 00:50:25,440
and we actually added some additional

1228
00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:26,960
vegetation.

1229
00:50:26,960 --> 00:50:29,520
Uh this retaining wall which is along

1230
00:50:29,520 --> 00:50:31,680
the property line is now moved in and we

1231
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,960
put this as close to the uh septic

1232
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,960
system reserve area as possible.

1233
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:40,640
Remember we saw two jutting uh retaining

1234
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,520
walls here. Uh that was an uh an element

1235
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,160
of discussion between the two parties.

1236
00:50:46,160 --> 00:50:49,200
That's been removed. Uh there'll be just

1237
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,440
it'll be uh sort of blended into this

1238
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:53,520
retaining wall and graded off the rest

1239
00:50:53,520 --> 00:50:55,839
of the way. And notice that we've added

1240
00:50:55,839 --> 00:50:58,720
more mitigation here. You'll look at

1241
00:50:58,720 --> 00:51:01,760
this white triangle here and wonder why

1242
00:51:01,760 --> 00:51:03,119
there's nothing in there. there's

1243
00:51:03,119 --> 00:51:05,599
already existing vegetation in there and

1244
00:51:05,599 --> 00:51:08,000
that was uh sort of the mutual

1245
00:51:08,000 --> 00:51:10,000
discussion that we had between the the

1246
00:51:10,000 --> 00:51:12,640
two parties that we preserve as much

1247
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:15,440
vegetation existing vegetation that's in

1248
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:18,800
what we called the micro forest here. Um

1249
00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:22,160
and so uh additional vegetation and

1250
00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:25,040
mitigation where we can we did move

1251
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:28,480
there was an area here um there was a

1252
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:30,160
request to try to move things closer to

1253
00:51:30,160 --> 00:51:33,040
the water. So we did shift this down uh

1254
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:35,920
closer to the water here which will uh

1255
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,200
sort of blend in uh with the uh the

1256
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:42,319
mitigation that that we had shown here u

1257
00:51:42,319 --> 00:51:44,720
well it sort of complements this

1258
00:51:44,720 --> 00:51:46,400
vegetation and building off these

1259
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:49,680
existing trees here. Uh so what the end

1260
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:52,000
result is is that I believe we have a

1261
00:51:52,000 --> 00:51:54,559
better plan. Uh we actually have 200

1262
00:51:54,559 --> 00:51:56,960
square feet more mitigation than we had

1263
00:51:56,960 --> 00:51:59,440
at the last presentation.

1264
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:02,079
And I believe Mr. Gordon, the neighbor

1265
00:52:02,079 --> 00:52:04,960
over here, he uh submitted an email

1266
00:52:04,960 --> 00:52:07,520
letter to the commission saying that uh

1267
00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:11,520
we mutually reached uh what we feel is

1268
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:14,240
the best possible plan. I I also called

1269
00:52:14,240 --> 00:52:16,480
out this last tree here that I had

1270
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:19,040
missed. Uh there are eight trees that

1271
00:52:19,040 --> 00:52:21,040
will be affected and we'll put back 16

1272
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:23,839
trees. So, uh, we think we've done a

1273
00:52:23,839 --> 00:52:25,599
really good job here and like to close

1274
00:52:25,599 --> 00:52:28,559
the hearing and ask for approval.

1275
00:52:28,559 --> 00:52:31,680
>> Okay. Um, I will open this up for public

1276
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,440
comment. Is there anybody in the

1277
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,119
audience who wishes to comment on the

1278
00:52:35,119 --> 00:52:38,800
project at 95 Eastern Point Boulevard?

1279
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:41,359
>> Uh, we have no hands up here in person

1280
00:52:41,359 --> 00:52:44,319
and there are none on the Zoom.

1281
00:52:44,319 --> 00:52:45,920
>> Okay, I'll close the public comment

1282
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:47,520
period. We'll move on to commissioner

1283
00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:49,040
comments.

1284
00:52:49,040 --> 00:52:51,359
>> Cook. Uh, Bill, I'd like to thank you

1285
00:52:51,359 --> 00:52:53,760
for the changes, especially moving uh

1286
00:52:53,760 --> 00:52:55,520
some of the mitigation closer to the

1287
00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:57,440
resource area. Thank you very much.

1288
00:52:57,440 --> 00:52:58,800
That's it. I'm

1289
00:52:58,800 --> 00:53:00,800
>> Sergeant. Thank you for the changes to

1290
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:03,040
the plan as well as working with the

1291
00:53:03,040 --> 00:53:05,200
neighbors. And there must be a two-year

1292
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:07,839
monitoring for the mortality mitigation

1293
00:53:07,839 --> 00:53:10,240
plantings in a perpetual condition in

1294
00:53:10,240 --> 00:53:12,880
COC that prohibits further alteration

1295
00:53:12,880 --> 00:53:14,800
within the mitigation areas except as

1296
00:53:14,800 --> 00:53:17,280
may be required. Maintain those areas in

1297
00:53:17,280 --> 00:53:20,160
a mitigated condition. All water must be

1298
00:53:20,160 --> 00:53:21,599
adequately treated before being

1299
00:53:21,599 --> 00:53:24,319
discharged. Like to also incorporate the

1300
00:53:24,319 --> 00:53:28,160
EP's suggested conditions

1301
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:30,400
and member

1302
00:53:30,400 --> 00:53:32,640
>> addition Jackson.

1303
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:34,720
>> I have no additional comments. I

1304
00:53:34,720 --> 00:53:37,839
appreciate the changes as well.

1305
00:53:37,839 --> 00:53:40,240
Okay, then you're okay, Mr. Emanuel,

1306
00:53:40,240 --> 00:53:42,800
with incorporating the D comments.

1307
00:53:42,800 --> 00:53:43,839
>> Yes.

1308
00:53:43,839 --> 00:53:46,800
>> Okay, let's move forward.

1309
00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,800
>> Okay. Commissioner Cook moves to close

1310
00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:57,589
the public hearing for NOI 0283112.

1311
00:53:57,599 --> 00:54:00,800
» Sergeant Sexis member Cook.

1312
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:01,760
>> Yes.

1313
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:02,240
>> Sergeant.

1314
00:54:02,240 --> 00:54:03,839
>> Yes.

1315
00:54:03,839 --> 00:54:05,200
>> And member Jackson.

1316
00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:07,359
>> Yes.

1317
00:54:07,359 --> 00:54:09,599
>> Commissioner Cook moves to approve NOI

1318
00:54:09,599 --> 00:54:12,079
0283112

1319
00:54:12,079 --> 00:54:15,200
with the aforementioned conditions.

1320
00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:17,760
>> Sergeant seconds. Albert Cook.

1321
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:20,880
>> Yes.

1322
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:22,000
>> Member Jackson.

1323
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:23,760
>> Yes.

1324
00:54:23,760 --> 00:54:25,359
>> You're all set.

1325
00:54:25,359 --> 00:54:26,240
>> Thank you very much.

1326
00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:28,480
>> Very much.

1327
00:54:28,480 --> 00:54:30,880
>> Okay. Moving on to new business. We have

1328
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:35,119
NOI028 unassigned D number at 28 St.

1329
00:54:35,119 --> 00:54:38,480
Louis Avenue. um owned by Mark Anderson

1330
00:54:38,480 --> 00:54:41,200
Andreasen for a sewer connection in

1331
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:44,640
buffer zone to BVW represented by John

1332
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,920
Jud Gateway Consultants Inc.

1333
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,160
>> You madam chair. Uh for the record, John

1334
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,319
Jud, engineer with Gateway Consultants

1335
00:54:52,319 --> 00:54:56,160
representing uh the Andre's uh property.

1336
00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:00,240
Uh this is for a uh um sewer connection

1337
00:55:00,240 --> 00:55:04,000
and uh that's associated with a uh u

1338
00:55:04,000 --> 00:55:06,880
building addition that is proposed. And

1339
00:55:06,880 --> 00:55:09,920
let me see if I can pull this up or um

1340
00:55:09,920 --> 00:55:15,910
see bear with me for one second.

1341
00:55:15,920 --> 00:55:18,559
And

1342
00:55:18,559 --> 00:55:35,190
okay, let me get that.

1343
00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:40,240
Okay. Uh so this property uh was before

1344
00:55:40,240 --> 00:55:42,400
well recently we did a property across

1345
00:55:42,400 --> 00:55:44,720
the street for a sewer extension to come

1346
00:55:44,720 --> 00:55:47,760
down St. Lewis uh and Beimo uh right

1347
00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,319
down here uh to serve this property here

1348
00:55:50,319 --> 00:55:52,559
which is the Tadler property. This

1349
00:55:52,559 --> 00:55:55,280
property here is the subject property at

1350
00:55:55,280 --> 00:55:59,359
28 and uh there is a proposal to do an

1351
00:55:59,359 --> 00:56:01,599
addition on this this dwelling here. The

1352
00:56:01,599 --> 00:56:04,079
resource areas are exists in Niles Pond.

1353
00:56:04,079 --> 00:56:06,079
The wetland associated with Niles Pond

1354
00:56:06,079 --> 00:56:09,359
here. The buffer zone is here. Uh there

1355
00:56:09,359 --> 00:56:12,400
is also uh a wetland system that sort of

1356
00:56:12,400 --> 00:56:16,160
uh is associated with uh um Beimo A and

1357
00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,319
St. Louis A and then Culver system that

1358
00:56:18,319 --> 00:56:20,319
makes its way down across here and

1359
00:56:20,319 --> 00:56:21,920
across the Tadler property out toward

1360
00:56:21,920 --> 00:56:24,079
the harbor. And what this is the uh the

1361
00:56:24,079 --> 00:56:26,480
buffer zone area that we're we're

1362
00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:29,359
discussing right now. So the proposal is

1363
00:56:29,359 --> 00:56:31,680
this basically this one and a quarter

1364
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:35,599
inch diameter uh pressurized um sewer

1365
00:56:35,599 --> 00:56:37,119
line that would make the connection into

1366
00:56:37,119 --> 00:56:39,359
that previously approved sewer extension

1367
00:56:39,359 --> 00:56:41,839
on St. Louis A. And that's uh the rest

1368
00:56:41,839 --> 00:56:43,520
of this project is outside the buffer

1369
00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,359
zone. It's between the these two buffer

1370
00:56:45,359 --> 00:56:48,160
zones here. So we're looking at this uh

1371
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:50,000
this project right here. There is

1372
00:56:50,000 --> 00:56:55,520
erosion control proposed uh already and it's actually installed associated

1373
00:56:55,520 --> 00:56:57,520
with that wetland system across the

1374
00:56:57,520 --> 00:57:00,160
street and we're looking to uh get this

1375
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:02,160
uh approved for this utility work here

1376
00:57:02,160 --> 00:57:04,000
for this pressurized sewer. The water

1377
00:57:04,000 --> 00:57:05,599
line already exists, the gas line

1378
00:57:05,599 --> 00:57:07,680
already exists into the house uh but

1379
00:57:07,680 --> 00:57:09,520
it's just the proposed sewer line

1380
00:57:09,520 --> 00:57:11,760
associated with the building addition.

1381
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,839
Uh thank you.

1382
00:57:13,839 --> 00:57:15,599
>> Okay, we'll open this up for public

1383
00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:17,520
comment. Is there anybody in the

1384
00:57:17,520 --> 00:57:19,599
audience who wishes to comment on the

1385
00:57:19,599 --> 00:57:23,200
project at 28 St. Louis Avenue?

1386
00:57:23,200 --> 00:57:25,680
>> Uh, we have no hands up here in person

1387
00:57:25,680 --> 00:57:28,240
and there are no hands up on the Zoom.

1388
00:57:28,240 --> 00:57:29,839
>> Okay, we'll move on to commissioner

1389
00:57:29,839 --> 00:57:31,839
comments.

1390
00:57:31,839 --> 00:57:34,000
>> No comments.

1391
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:36,640
>> Um, all water must be adequately treated

1392
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,359
or being discharged. And I'm wondering

1393
00:57:39,359 --> 00:57:44,720
um the well in delineation I think is 11

1394
00:57:44,720 --> 00:57:47,280
years old. I'm wondering if it's still

1395
00:57:47,280 --> 00:57:50,240
accurate and if it might impact if it's

1396
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:52,240
different if it might be impacting

1397
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,559
future work that's planned. I'll leave

1398
00:57:54,559 --> 00:57:57,280
that to Chuck because he was out there.

1399
00:57:57,280 --> 00:58:01,280
Um but I I I'd like that answer. Yeah, I

1400
00:58:01,280 --> 00:58:03,280
could uh that was actually all freshly

1401
00:58:03,280 --> 00:58:06,160
delineated uh as far as the Tadler

1402
00:58:06,160 --> 00:58:09,040
project across the street. So, um we may

1403
00:58:09,040 --> 00:58:11,680
have reference an older delineation, but

1404
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:14,000
that's uh freshly flagged.

1405
00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:15,119
>> Okay. Thank you.

1406
00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:17,760
>> Yeah,

1407
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:19,440
>> it looked to me on the satellite like

1408
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:20,799
where that passes through the buffer

1409
00:58:20,799 --> 00:58:22,240
zone there, that's just lawn, right?

1410
00:58:22,240 --> 00:58:23,599
Like it's not going to go through any of

1411
00:58:23,599 --> 00:58:24,880
that vegetation.

1412
00:58:24,880 --> 00:58:26,799
>> That's correct. Yeah. No trees removed.

1413
00:58:26,799 --> 00:58:29,359
It's right through the lawn area.

1414
00:58:29,359 --> 00:58:30,880
I'm I'm good.

1415
00:58:30,880 --> 00:58:32,160
>> And member Jackson,

1416
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:34,079
>> no. My questions have been asked, so

1417
00:58:34,079 --> 00:58:36,559
that's works for me. And I will also

1418
00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:38,400
close the public comment period, which I

1419
00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:42,720
forgot to do. So, um, Chuck, did you

1420
00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:44,799
have any additional comments?

1421
00:58:44,799 --> 00:58:46,799
>> I don't. I assume this is just going to

1422
00:58:46,799 --> 00:58:49,200
be a uh

1423
00:58:49,200 --> 00:58:50,960
trench and and lay the pipe and back

1424
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,000
fill kind of operation

1425
00:58:54,000 --> 00:58:55,520
being exposed. Yep.

1426
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:56,720
>> Right.

1427
00:58:56,720 --> 00:58:58,480
>> Okay. I think we can move forward then.

1428
00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,559
>> Oh, we can't. We don't have a number.

1429
00:59:00,559 --> 00:59:02,240
>> Oh, we can't. You're absolutely right.

1430
00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:03,520
>> You're right. You're right, Bill. I'm

1431
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:05,760
sorry. Yeah, I've been after DP all day

1432
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:07,280
to try to get that, but

1433
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:10,400
>> yeah. Well, okay. So, continue to April

1434
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:11,839
1st, Mr. Jud.

1435
00:59:11,839 --> 00:59:13,599
>> Yes, please.

1436
00:59:13,599 --> 00:59:17,839
>> Commissioner Cook moves uh NOI028 no

1437
00:59:17,839 --> 00:59:20,400
assigned D number for 28 St. Louis

1438
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:22,960
Avenue to the conservation meeting of

1439
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:26,559
April 1st, 2026.

1440
00:59:26,559 --> 00:59:29,839
Richard seconds. C member Cook.

1441
00:59:29,839 --> 00:59:31,200
>> Yes.

1442
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:32,480
Memberes.

1443
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:33,040
>> Yes.

1444
00:59:33,040 --> 00:59:34,000
>> Jackson.

1445
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:35,599
>> Yes.

1446
00:59:35,599 --> 00:59:36,240
>> Thank you very much.

1447
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:37,599
>> Okay. Sorry about that.

1448
00:59:37,599 --> 00:59:40,640
>> Yeah. Nope. No problem. It's on us.

1449
00:59:40,640 --> 00:59:44,960
>> Okay. Next up, we have NOI 0283117

1450
00:59:44,960 --> 00:59:49,119
at 44 Vine Street. Paul A. Gree to raise

1451
00:59:49,119 --> 00:59:51,119
and rebuild in land subject to coastal

1452
00:59:51,119 --> 00:59:53,359
storm flowage riverfront area coastal

1453
00:59:53,359 --> 00:59:55,839
bank and buffer zone to coastal resource

1454
00:59:55,839 --> 00:59:58,160
areas represented by John Jud Gateway

1455
00:59:58,160 --> 01:00:00,240
Consultants Inc.

1456
01:00:00,240 --> 01:00:02,400
>> Thank you Madame Chair. Um I'm going to

1457
01:00:02,400 --> 01:00:06,240
pull up this uh if I can and show you uh

1458
01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,720
what's proposed on this particular

1459
01:00:08,720 --> 01:00:12,240
project at 14 uh I'm sorry 44 Mine

1460
01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:16,079
Street. Uh this is a u pre-existing

1461
01:00:16,079 --> 01:00:19,280
house that exists now uh and is proposed

1462
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:20,880
to be reconstructed on the same

1463
01:00:20,880 --> 01:00:23,520
footprint here at 44 Vine Street. It's

1464
01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:27,040
on the Mill River u and uh it's

1465
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:28,720
associated obviously with the

1466
01:00:28,720 --> 01:00:30,480
repairarian zone here. So we have the

1467
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:32,880
100 foot repairarian zone here uh which

1468
01:00:32,880 --> 01:00:35,200
extends across the street. The Mil River

1469
01:00:35,200 --> 01:00:37,920
is here. Uh let's see if I can go down a

1470
01:00:37,920 --> 01:00:40,000
little bit here just to give a little

1471
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,160
bit. Well, we say the Anisquan, but it's

1472
01:00:42,160 --> 01:00:44,559
associated with it is the Anisquan, but

1473
01:00:44,559 --> 01:00:49,200
the Mill River inlet. Um, and the uh

1474
01:00:49,200 --> 01:00:51,119
buffers, the 100 foot repairarian zone

1475
01:00:51,119 --> 01:00:53,599
is here. Uh, the existing footprint is

1476
01:00:53,599 --> 01:00:56,640
the hatch line here. Uh, and it includes

1477
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:58,559
decks as well that there's an existing

1478
01:00:58,559 --> 01:01:01,839
deck here. Uh, so this has all been uh

1479
01:01:01,839 --> 01:01:04,559
gone through uh the zoning board of

1480
01:01:04,559 --> 01:01:08,880
appeals and uh we're looking to uh get

1481
01:01:08,880 --> 01:01:10,559
this approved. that will meet the the

1482
01:01:10,559 --> 01:01:14,880
current flood standards as far as the um

1483
01:01:14,880 --> 01:01:18,880
offset above um the flood zone of 13. Um

1484
01:01:18,880 --> 01:01:20,960
and let me see, we have mitigation

1485
01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:24,799
calculations as well uh that show the uh

1486
01:01:24,799 --> 01:01:28,000
riverfront area as far as the uh area of

1487
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,280
mitigation and the uh proposed uh

1488
01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,319
impacts as well. uh that's shown on the

1489
01:01:34,319 --> 01:01:37,520
uh flood zone and um mitigation

1490
01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,079
calculations here in the riverfront uh

1491
01:01:40,079 --> 01:01:42,880
section right here. So again, it's

1492
01:01:42,880 --> 01:01:45,599
largely replacing the existing

1493
01:01:45,599 --> 01:01:47,680
dilapidated uh footprint of the

1494
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:49,520
building. Uh the neighbors for a long

1495
01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,160
time have complained that this is one of

1496
01:01:52,160 --> 01:01:55,359
the last ones to be improved. Uh so uh

1497
01:01:55,359 --> 01:01:58,240
this is where we are uh in terms of uh

1498
01:01:58,240 --> 01:02:00,240
matching that as close as possible to

1499
01:02:00,240 --> 01:02:02,640
the existing uh imperous area and

1500
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:07,680
mitigating 200% uh and also including um

1501
01:02:07,680 --> 01:02:09,760
improving the area as far as uh the

1502
01:02:09,760 --> 01:02:11,680
drainage which none exists now. So

1503
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:14,240
there's quite a bit of uh drainage here

1504
01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:16,160
for infiltration off the roof but is

1505
01:02:16,160 --> 01:02:18,400
also the mitigation plantings on both

1506
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:20,240
sides uh getting as close to the river

1507
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:22,319
as possible. We are proposing a

1508
01:02:22,319 --> 01:02:26,240
flotation barrier here below uh the um

1509
01:02:26,240 --> 01:02:28,079
the deck that's proposed here which

1510
01:02:28,079 --> 01:02:31,599
should be uh suspended above above the

1511
01:02:31,599 --> 01:02:34,960
uh the mean high water as it does now. I

1512
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:36,400
can answer any questions you might have

1513
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:40,480
at this time. Thank you.

1514
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,240
>> Okay, I'll open this up for public

1515
01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:43,760
comment. Is there anybody in the

1516
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:45,440
audience who wishes to comment on the

1517
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:49,359
project at 44 Vine Street?

1518
01:02:49,359 --> 01:02:53,119
Uh we have lost our inerson audience and

1519
01:02:53,119 --> 01:02:56,559
uh there are no hands up on the Zoom.

1520
01:02:56,559 --> 01:02:58,160
>> Okay, I'll close the public comment

1521
01:02:58,160 --> 01:02:59,760
period. We'll move on to commissioner

1522
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:01,119
comments.

1523
01:03:01,119 --> 01:03:02,160
>> Member Cook.

1524
01:03:02,160 --> 01:03:04,799
>> Uh no additional comments.

1525
01:03:04,799 --> 01:03:05,280
>> Sergeant.

1526
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,280
>> Um I don't believe the extended deck

1527
01:03:07,280 --> 01:03:10,079
over the intertital zone is permittable.

1528
01:03:10,079 --> 01:03:11,280
In order to be approved in the

1529
01:03:11,280 --> 01:03:12,960
riverfront area, the applicant must

1530
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,119
prove that there's no other location for

1531
01:03:15,119 --> 01:03:16,960
the deck and that will not have a

1532
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,119
significant adverse impact on the

1533
01:03:19,119 --> 01:03:21,680
resource area. This proposed deck would

1534
01:03:21,680 --> 01:03:24,160
create shading impacts to the rocky

1535
01:03:24,160 --> 01:03:26,400
title zone. For example, shading to

1536
01:03:26,400 --> 01:03:28,880
prevent rockweed from photosynthesizing

1537
01:03:28,880 --> 01:03:30,799
and rockweed is considered essential

1538
01:03:30,799 --> 01:03:33,280
fish habitat. And I'm wondering if all

1539
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,359
work is supposed to be done from the

1540
01:03:35,359 --> 01:03:37,200
shore side. And based on the

1541
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:38,799
photographs, it appears that there's a

1542
01:03:38,799 --> 01:03:41,760
tree by the shoreline to the north and a

1543
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:43,280
couple of trees to the south along the

1544
01:03:43,280 --> 01:03:45,680
property line. These trees are not shown

1545
01:03:45,680 --> 01:03:48,559
on the plan. Please explain. And I'm

1546
01:03:48,559 --> 01:03:50,559
wondering how much of the building is

1547
01:03:50,559 --> 01:03:53,440
proposed to be on pipe leaks. And why

1548
01:03:53,440 --> 01:03:55,359
not move the building back to the 20ft

1549
01:03:55,359 --> 01:03:57,920
front yard setback? This would better

1550
01:03:57,920 --> 01:04:00,880
meet the criterion of a net improvement

1551
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:03,440
to the riverfront area. And there must

1552
01:04:03,440 --> 01:04:05,839
be a 2-year monitoring for the mortality

1553
01:04:05,839 --> 01:04:07,839
of all mitigation plantings and a

1554
01:04:07,839 --> 01:04:10,559
perpetual condition in the COC prohibits

1555
01:04:10,559 --> 01:04:11,760
further alterations within the

1556
01:04:11,760 --> 01:04:14,000
mitigation area except as may be

1557
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:16,160
required to maintain those areas in the

1558
01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:19,039
mitigated condition. And I uh note that

1559
01:04:19,039 --> 01:04:22,000
D made some technical comments you know

1560
01:04:22,000 --> 01:04:24,079
on this project as well need to be

1561
01:04:24,079 --> 01:04:26,480
answered. Thank you

1562
01:04:26,480 --> 01:04:28,319
member Alides.

1563
01:04:28,319 --> 01:04:30,240
>> Yeah, I second that. There's some D

1564
01:04:30,240 --> 01:04:32,319
comments there. One of them had to do

1565
01:04:32,319 --> 01:04:35,119
with uh delineation on the plan that I'm

1566
01:04:35,119 --> 01:04:37,440
not sure made it on there. So, that has

1567
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:39,520
to be addressed. Um I had some questions

1568
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:43,039
about on the plan itself things that

1569
01:04:43,039 --> 01:04:46,079
were if they're being removed or they're

1570
01:04:46,079 --> 01:04:47,599
remaining and being improved. There's

1571
01:04:47,599 --> 01:04:50,480
that lower deck when looking at the plan

1572
01:04:50,480 --> 01:04:52,160
down to the left, which I guess is the

1573
01:04:52,160 --> 01:04:55,039
north. Looks like it's remaining. It

1574
01:04:55,039 --> 01:04:56,319
doesn't really specify it's going to be

1575
01:04:56,319 --> 01:04:58,240
rebuilt or if it's just going to stay as

1576
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:01,039
it is. Um, then there's a boat ramp on

1577
01:05:01,039 --> 01:05:04,000
the other side that I assume is

1578
01:05:04,000 --> 01:05:06,319
remaining, but also assume it's not

1579
01:05:06,319 --> 01:05:07,920
being improved on because that that's

1580
01:05:07,920 --> 01:05:11,839
not specified. Um, I had some questions

1581
01:05:11,839 --> 01:05:14,960
about the overhang deck myself. I think

1582
01:05:14,960 --> 01:05:18,400
uh, Mr. Sergeant had more concerns than

1583
01:05:18,400 --> 01:05:19,920
I did. I was looking at it in terms of

1584
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:21,680
extending towards the resource, but it's

1585
01:05:21,680 --> 01:05:23,039
kind of an interesting question because

1586
01:05:23,039 --> 01:05:24,720
you sort of have that existing deck and

1587
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:26,480
then you have sort of a transact

1588
01:05:26,480 --> 01:05:28,160
overlap. So, I'm not really sure the

1589
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,880
answer to that. Chuck has any additional

1590
01:05:30,880 --> 01:05:33,839
input on that one. Um, that's that's

1591
01:05:33,839 --> 01:05:35,920
what I had.

1592
01:05:35,920 --> 01:05:37,599
>> Member Jackson.

1593
01:05:37,599 --> 01:05:39,920
>> Um, in addition to the above comments, I

1594
01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:41,599
wondered if you could get the plantings

1595
01:05:41,599 --> 01:05:43,760
on the right any closer to the resource

1596
01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:47,039
area. And you mentioned timber or stone

1597
01:05:47,039 --> 01:05:49,359
steps. Are they going to be pvious

1598
01:05:49,359 --> 01:05:51,839
impervious? And if they're impervious,

1599
01:05:51,839 --> 01:05:53,520
were they counted in the impervious

1600
01:05:53,520 --> 01:05:58,870
area?

1601
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,200
Chuck, did you have any comments?

1602
01:06:01,200 --> 01:06:05,119
>> Uh, I believe the one comment that D had

1603
01:06:05,119 --> 01:06:07,440
was about the coastal bank delineation.

1604
01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:09,200
Um,

1605
01:06:09,200 --> 01:06:11,839
it is kind of a tricky site to to figure

1606
01:06:11,839 --> 01:06:14,160
out where that is. Uh, but I would be

1607
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:17,520
interested in um Mr. Jud's uh comments

1608
01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:19,520
on that. Uh, the one question some

1609
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:21,440
questions I had were related to uh, let

1610
01:06:21,440 --> 01:06:36,309
me pull up a photo here. Uh

1611
01:06:36,319 --> 01:06:38,319
so in the this is the back of the house

1612
01:06:38,319 --> 01:06:40,640
obviously uh right up against the river.

1613
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:42,240
Um,

1614
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,400
it looks like on the plan there's a a

1615
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:46,640
slab at elevation 13, which is going to

1616
01:06:46,640 --> 01:06:49,440
be a bit higher up, but I was curious.

1617
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,799
Um, you know, the current footings, uh,

1618
01:06:52,799 --> 01:06:55,039
you know, around this doesn't look like

1619
01:06:55,039 --> 01:06:56,480
a very stable wall. So, I was kind of

1620
01:06:56,480 --> 01:06:58,079
curious what type of work was going to

1621
01:06:58,079 --> 01:07:01,760
be needed, uh, you know, down underneath

1622
01:07:01,760 --> 01:07:04,079
the house and along this this area here,

1623
01:07:04,079 --> 01:07:06,480
which is right against the the river. um

1624
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,960
you know what type of uh ports were

1625
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:10,319
going to be put in there or if a slab

1626
01:07:10,319 --> 01:07:12,000
was going to be uh going all the way

1627
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:17,440
down to grade or you know kind of what was going to be happening uh within

1628
01:07:17,440 --> 01:07:18,799
the portion under the house because

1629
01:07:18,799 --> 01:07:20,880
that's going to be uh within the flood

1630
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:23,839
zone um and obviously uh pretty exposed

1631
01:07:23,839 --> 01:07:29,109
to the river itself.

1632
01:07:29,119 --> 01:07:31,119
» Okay. Uh several comments there.

1633
01:07:31,119 --> 01:07:33,839
Obviously, we we did see the D comments

1634
01:07:33,839 --> 01:07:36,720
that uh when we checked the portal and

1635
01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:39,599
we can add that um that transact to show

1636
01:07:39,599 --> 01:07:42,319
the coastal bank uh it's going from the

1637
01:07:42,319 --> 01:07:45,520
top Mr. Sergeant's uh concerns about not

1638
01:07:45,520 --> 01:07:48,640
extending the deck. Uh I will huddle up

1639
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:50,480
with the applicant and the architect on

1640
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:53,760
that and uh we will respond to that as

1641
01:07:53,760 --> 01:07:57,119
well. Um as far as all trees, I believe

1642
01:07:57,119 --> 01:07:59,280
all trees are shown. Uh we will double

1643
01:07:59,280 --> 01:08:01,039
check that there's a large tree as you

1644
01:08:01,039 --> 01:08:02,559
face the house with your back to the

1645
01:08:02,559 --> 01:08:04,160
road. There's a large tree on the right

1646
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:07,359
that the applicant uh wants to keep. Uh

1647
01:08:07,359 --> 01:08:08,720
the neighbors would like to see it go

1648
01:08:08,720 --> 01:08:11,359
down, but he wants to keep it. Um uh

1649
01:08:11,359 --> 01:08:13,280
there really aren't any other trees that

1650
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:15,039
I I can remember, but I will double

1651
01:08:15,039 --> 01:08:17,279
check that. Uh and we will show those.

1652
01:08:17,279 --> 01:08:19,199
But I believe all trees that are on the

1653
01:08:19,199 --> 01:08:22,080
site are shown on the plan. As far as

1654
01:08:22,080 --> 01:08:23,759
moving the house closer to the street,

1655
01:08:23,759 --> 01:08:28,560
we went before the um ZBA as I mentioned

1656
01:08:28,560 --> 01:08:31,120
and we did have conversations with the

1657
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:32,960
building inspector as far as what he

1658
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,920
considers the front yard setback uh

1659
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:37,520
because of the right of way. His

1660
01:08:37,520 --> 01:08:39,920
position is as well as the attorney is

1661
01:08:39,920 --> 01:08:41,839
that we had to be conservative and and

1662
01:08:41,839 --> 01:08:44,080
hold the street right ofway easement

1663
01:08:44,080 --> 01:08:46,960
line as the uh actual front yard and

1664
01:08:46,960 --> 01:08:48,239
then we'd have to come back for the

1665
01:08:48,239 --> 01:08:50,239
front yard set back from there. So, we

1666
01:08:50,239 --> 01:08:52,480
were limited uh as far as moving it

1667
01:08:52,480 --> 01:08:54,640
closer to the street, but again, we're

1668
01:08:54,640 --> 01:08:56,080
going to, you know, nothing's going to

1669
01:08:56,080 --> 01:08:57,759
happen tonight. We can see that, but

1670
01:08:57,759 --> 01:09:00,560
we're going to um address that. Uh I'll

1671
01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,960
huddle up again with the attorney uh and

1672
01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,679
the client on that, the applicant. Uh as

1673
01:09:05,679 --> 01:09:07,440
far as the lower deck and what that

1674
01:09:07,440 --> 01:09:09,359
condition is uh and whether it's going

1675
01:09:09,359 --> 01:09:12,080
to be reconstructed or remain in place,

1676
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:15,839
um I was told it was to be uh to remain.

1677
01:09:15,839 --> 01:09:17,600
And again, we'll have some more answers

1678
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:20,719
on that at the next hearing as well as

1679
01:09:20,719 --> 01:09:22,400
the boat ramp and whether that will

1680
01:09:22,400 --> 01:09:24,400
remain or be reconstructed in the same

1681
01:09:24,400 --> 01:09:26,560
spot. If it was to be reconstructed, we

1682
01:09:26,560 --> 01:09:28,480
would have to obviously show that on the

1683
01:09:28,480 --> 01:09:32,000
plan. Uh and again, I think uh member

1684
01:09:32,000 --> 01:09:34,080
Eliot, sorry, I'm going to butcher the

1685
01:09:34,080 --> 01:09:35,440
name. I'm sorry about that. I haven't

1686
01:09:35,440 --> 01:09:38,960
met you yet. But uh uh as far as the uh

1687
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:43,279
overhead deck uh and the um question

1688
01:09:43,279 --> 01:09:45,440
whether that can be approved or not, uh

1689
01:09:45,440 --> 01:09:47,199
we will look into that further and I

1690
01:09:47,199 --> 01:09:50,560
will mention that to the applicant. Um

1691
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:52,960
as far as member Jackson's uh comments,

1692
01:09:52,960 --> 01:09:55,040
can we move the plantings closer to the

1693
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:57,760
uh to the uh to the riverfront? We will

1694
01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,360
definitely look at that and I I am

1695
01:09:59,360 --> 01:10:01,679
certain that these steps uh are proposed

1696
01:10:01,679 --> 01:10:03,920
the stone steps would be pvious and

1697
01:10:03,920 --> 01:10:05,760
we'll make sure that's noted on the

1698
01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,560
plan. Uh and again Chuck had mentioned

1699
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:10,800
the coastal bank transact from the D

1700
01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:12,159
comments. We're going to add that to the

1701
01:10:12,159 --> 01:10:14,400
plan as well. Uh I don't know

1702
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:16,400
specifically the foundation plans and

1703
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:17,600
where the peers are going to be

1704
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:19,679
situated. So, we will have that

1705
01:10:19,679 --> 01:10:21,840
specifically uh submitted as an

1706
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:25,360
attachment, a foundation plan and or uh

1707
01:10:25,360 --> 01:10:28,400
a notation on our plan uh to show where

1708
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:30,320
piles are and what what's going to be

1709
01:10:30,320 --> 01:10:32,640
proposed below that building uh as far

1710
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:36,080
as slabs and so forth. So, uh we

1711
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:37,920
understand that there's many concerns

1712
01:10:37,920 --> 01:10:40,080
here. Uh we would like to ask for a

1713
01:10:40,080 --> 01:10:42,320
continuence to address those. Uh if

1714
01:10:42,320 --> 01:10:44,400
there's any other comments, I'd like to

1715
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:45,920
get them now so we can have everything

1716
01:10:45,920 --> 01:10:49,520
addressed beforehand. Um,

1717
01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:51,120
>> okay. Thank you. Are there any other

1718
01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:52,719
comments from commissioners or from the

1719
01:10:52,719 --> 01:10:54,880
agent?

1720
01:10:54,880 --> 01:10:57,199
>> I think the only other thing would be uh

1721
01:10:57,199 --> 01:10:58,880
this this will probably require going

1722
01:10:58,880 --> 01:11:01,679
back to uh

1723
01:11:01,679 --> 01:11:03,760
possibly uh amend your chapter 91

1724
01:11:03,760 --> 01:11:05,199
license. I believe there's a current one

1725
01:11:05,199 --> 01:11:09,040
there for the uh

1726
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:10,880
the lower deck and and possibly some

1727
01:11:10,880 --> 01:11:13,040
other uh

1728
01:11:13,040 --> 01:11:15,679
pieces there. But I believe if if the

1729
01:11:15,679 --> 01:11:17,199
there's changes and the addition of that

1730
01:11:17,199 --> 01:11:18,960
additional deck, even though it doesn't

1731
01:11:18,960 --> 01:11:20,640
touch the resource, it'll be over the

1732
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,360
resource and therefore

1733
01:11:23,360 --> 01:11:25,440
amending that chapter 91.

1734
01:11:25,440 --> 01:11:27,120
>> Yeah. Yeah. Obviously, we would should

1735
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:29,199
this be approved, any any changes would

1736
01:11:29,199 --> 01:11:32,560
have to uh be done after uh and you

1737
01:11:32,560 --> 01:11:34,320
know, order conditions be issued if it

1738
01:11:34,320 --> 01:11:37,199
if it's uh to be granted. So, we would

1739
01:11:37,199 --> 01:11:40,400
thank you for that.

1740
01:11:40,400 --> 01:11:42,560
>> Okay. And he addressed everybody's

1741
01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,719
concerns. Nobody's concerns got left

1742
01:11:44,719 --> 01:11:46,640
out. Um, they were either resolved or

1743
01:11:46,640 --> 01:11:49,120
promised to be discussed.

1744
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:51,440
Okay. Mr. Jud, do you want to continue

1745
01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:53,040
to April 1st?

1746
01:11:53,040 --> 01:11:54,480
>> Yes, please.

1747
01:11:54,480 --> 01:11:55,600
>> Okay.

1748
01:11:55,600 --> 01:11:58,400
>> Commissioner Cook uh makes a motion to

1749
01:11:58,400 --> 01:12:02,480
move NOI 0283117

1750
01:12:02,480 --> 01:12:04,560
to the conservation meeting of April

1751
01:12:04,560 --> 01:12:06,640
1st, 2026.

1752
01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,880
>> Commissioner Sergeant seconds.

1753
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:10,080
>> Member Cook.

1754
01:12:10,080 --> 01:12:10,880
>> Yes.

1755
01:12:10,880 --> 01:12:11,440
>> Sergeant,

1756
01:12:11,440 --> 01:12:12,640
>> yes. memberes.

1757
01:12:12,640 --> 01:12:12,960
>> Yes.

1758
01:12:12,960 --> 01:12:14,239
>> Member Jackson.

1759
01:12:14,239 --> 01:12:15,920
>> Yes.

1760
01:12:15,920 --> 01:12:16,800
>> Okay.

1761
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:17,520
>> Thank you.

1762
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:19,120
>> You have your homework. Thank you, Mr.

1763
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:23,760
Jud. Next up, we have NOI 028 unassigned

1764
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:27,920
D number at 163 Magnolia Avenue, owned

1765
01:12:27,920 --> 01:12:30,400
by Steven Keegan, upgrade to existing

1766
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:32,159
septic system and buffer zone to

1767
01:12:32,159 --> 01:12:34,640
bordering vegetated wetland. Represented

1768
01:12:34,640 --> 01:12:38,000
by John Jud, Gateway Consultants, Inc.

1769
01:12:38,000 --> 01:12:40,159
>> Okay. Thank you, Madam Chair. Uh once

1770
01:12:40,159 --> 01:12:42,560
again uh for the record, John Jud

1771
01:12:42,560 --> 01:12:44,400
representing the applicant. I believe we

1772
01:12:44,400 --> 01:12:47,920
do have a file number and uh

1773
01:12:47,920 --> 01:12:50,400
>> that was uh I think issued during the

1774
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:55,040
interim of uh when the uh um agenda was

1775
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:56,880
posted. Let me see if I can pull up this

1776
01:12:56,880 --> 01:12:58,800
plan and and show you. This is a septic

1777
01:12:58,800 --> 01:13:00,400
system replacement in the buffer zone

1778
01:13:00,400 --> 01:13:02,000
for a plan that was approved by the

1779
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:04,480
board of health already. Um

1780
01:13:04,480 --> 01:13:05,120
>> 311.

1781
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:06,719
>> Not a lot of options.

1782
01:13:06,719 --> 01:13:08,800
>> It's 3116.

1783
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,880
>> Okay. Thank you. Uh,

1784
01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,040
>> okay. Good.

1785
01:13:13,040 --> 01:13:14,400
>> All right. So, I'm going to pull this up

1786
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:20,790
and and uh if I can and and just uh

1787
01:13:20,800 --> 01:13:23,760
see if I can

1788
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:25,679
add it there a second ago.

1789
01:13:25,679 --> 01:13:27,920
>> Oh, yeah. There it is.

1790
01:13:27,920 --> 01:13:35,750
>> Do you see it? Subject system

1791
01:13:35,760 --> 01:13:38,560
too much water.

1792
01:13:38,560 --> 01:13:40,719
That's That's ideal conditions, Dave,

1793
01:13:40,719 --> 01:13:42,640
right there.

1794
01:13:42,640 --> 01:13:44,239
>> It's a sand filter.

1795
01:13:44,239 --> 01:13:47,679
>> It's It is a sand filter. Yes. Um, sorry

1796
01:13:47,679 --> 01:13:55,430
about this. I had it all queued up and

1797
01:13:55,440 --> 01:14:03,590
Okay.

1798
01:14:03,600 --> 01:14:17,590
All right. Sorry about that.

1799
01:14:17,600 --> 01:14:20,239
Okay, sorry about that. Uh, so once

1800
01:14:20,239 --> 01:14:22,560
again, uh, septic system replacement at

1801
01:14:22,560 --> 01:14:28,880
163 Magnolia Avenue. Uh, this is a, uh, a property. Anyone that drives

1802
01:14:28,880 --> 01:14:32,800
through Magnolia has seen this. It's, very close to the road. uh beige

1803
01:14:32,800 --> 01:14:36,800
house here and uh the wetlands

1804
01:14:36,800 --> 01:14:39,920
uh system exist uh along the entire side

1805
01:14:39,920 --> 01:14:41,920
of the property along the back corner

1806
01:14:41,920 --> 01:14:44,320
here and extend back into Magnolia

1807
01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:47,760
Woods. Uh and we have the buffer zone

1808
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:49,760
associated with that here. So the entire

1809
01:14:49,760 --> 01:14:52,480
site has either wetlands or buffer zone.

1810
01:14:52,480 --> 01:14:56,000
Uh the existing system is consists of a

1811
01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:58,560
tank right here and a failed set uh

1812
01:14:58,560 --> 01:15:01,600
leeching pit here. Uh there is driveway

1813
01:15:01,600 --> 01:15:03,520
access here. There's an existing shed

1814
01:15:03,520 --> 01:15:06,239
here. We did have very good soil with a

1815
01:15:06,239 --> 01:15:09,199
high water table. Uh so we would try to

1816
01:15:09,199 --> 01:15:11,520
get this further away always uh to get

1817
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:14,080
it away from the uh resource area.

1818
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:16,159
However, we were limited by several

1819
01:15:16,159 --> 01:15:17,840
things including the area here, the

1820
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:20,560
existing shed uh which is more much more

1821
01:15:20,560 --> 01:15:22,239
than a shed. It's in good shape. It's uh

1822
01:15:22,239 --> 01:15:25,520
it's a garage and it has uh lean area

1823
01:15:25,520 --> 01:15:28,159
here for for storage. Uh very important

1824
01:15:28,159 --> 01:15:30,640
to the homeowner. So what we're what

1825
01:15:30,640 --> 01:15:32,320
we've done is we did the soil testing

1826
01:15:32,320 --> 01:15:35,520
here and we uh improved the proposed

1827
01:15:35,520 --> 01:15:38,960
system to be advanced treatment uh with

1828
01:15:38,960 --> 01:15:41,760
uh pressure distribution and uh that

1829
01:15:41,760 --> 01:15:43,199
would be sufficiently above the

1830
01:15:43,199 --> 01:15:44,560
groundwater to meet all the state

1831
01:15:44,560 --> 01:15:47,120
requirements. Uh obviously much better

1832
01:15:47,120 --> 01:15:48,800
water quality going into the wetland

1833
01:15:48,800 --> 01:15:52,480
area. Um and uh again has been approved

1834
01:15:52,480 --> 01:15:54,239
by the board of health can answer any

1835
01:15:54,239 --> 01:15:55,679
questions you might have. We have

1836
01:15:55,679 --> 01:15:57,440
erosion control around the entire

1837
01:15:57,440 --> 01:15:59,360
section right here.

1838
01:15:59,360 --> 01:16:02,000
uh that borders uh that separates it the

1839
01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:05,040
resource area and the proposed work.

1840
01:16:05,040 --> 01:16:05,520
>> Thank you.

1841
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:08,400
>> Okay. Thank you. I will open this up for

1842
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:10,159
public comment. Is there anyone in the

1843
01:16:10,159 --> 01:16:11,920
audience who wishes to comment on the

1844
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:16,400
project at 163 Magnolia Avenue?

1845
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:18,880
>> Uh we still have nobody here in person

1846
01:16:18,880 --> 01:16:21,840
and uh no hands up on the Zoom.

1847
01:16:21,840 --> 01:16:23,520
>> Okay, I'll close the public comment

1848
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:25,040
period. We'll move on to commissioner

1849
01:16:25,040 --> 01:16:26,239
comments.

1850
01:16:26,239 --> 01:16:30,560
>> Member Cook. um the existing system um

1851
01:16:30,560 --> 01:16:32,800
is just being crushed or filled in place

1852
01:16:32,800 --> 01:16:35,679
or how

1853
01:16:35,679 --> 01:16:38,000
>> you want to wait until the end. John,

1854
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:40,000
>> you can that's a real quick answer. Uh

1855
01:16:40,000 --> 01:16:41,840
typically uh yeah, so that would be

1856
01:16:41,840 --> 01:16:44,000
pumped all components would be pumped

1857
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:46,480
and um backfilled. The tank would be

1858
01:16:46,480 --> 01:16:48,159
removed and everything else would be

1859
01:16:48,159 --> 01:16:51,280
back filled with clean granular soil.

1860
01:16:51,280 --> 01:16:52,239
>> Okay.

1861
01:16:52,239 --> 01:16:53,840
>> Thank you,

1862
01:16:53,840 --> 01:16:56,239
>> Sergeant. Uh this improves existing

1863
01:16:56,239 --> 01:16:59,520
conditions. Thank you. Ladies,

1864
01:16:59,520 --> 01:17:01,600
>> um I had just a technical question more

1865
01:17:01,600 --> 01:17:04,320
for you, Chuck. With that

1866
01:17:04,320 --> 01:17:07,920
being less than 50 feet, that a variance

1867
01:17:07,920 --> 01:17:10,400
we approve or is that come from the

1868
01:17:10,400 --> 01:17:11,520
board of health or

1869
01:17:11,520 --> 01:17:13,920
>> that's a board of health variance? Yeah,

1870
01:17:13,920 --> 01:17:15,199
commissioner.

1871
01:17:15,199 --> 01:17:16,960
>> All right. Yeah, I would agree. I think

1872
01:17:16,960 --> 01:17:18,640
it probably improves the existing

1873
01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:20,159
conditions.

1874
01:17:20,159 --> 01:17:21,199
>> Jackson,

1875
01:17:21,199 --> 01:17:23,120
>> I'm sure it does improve the existing

1876
01:17:23,120 --> 01:17:24,800
conditions. Are you removing any

1877
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:27,440
vegetation out in that area or is it a

1878
01:17:27,440 --> 01:17:29,120
grass area?

1879
01:17:29,120 --> 01:17:34,320
>> It's it's it's grass or several large pine trees that we show in the

1880
01:17:34,320 --> 01:17:36,000
plan and those are not proposed to be

1881
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:37,360
taken down.

1882
01:17:37,360 --> 01:17:41,120
>> Okay, good. Yeah, the pictures showed a

1883
01:17:41,120 --> 01:17:42,800
lot of trees out there. Just making sure

1884
01:17:42,800 --> 01:17:44,880
you could fit into the bare space. Okay,

1885
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:46,400
>> it worked out. It actually worked out

1886
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:47,360
pretty well.

1887
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:49,199
>> Okay, Chuck, did you have any additional

1888
01:17:49,199 --> 01:17:50,480
comments?

1889
01:17:50,480 --> 01:17:52,400
>> I I do not. I mean, it's kind of a tight

1890
01:17:52,400 --> 01:17:54,080
lot and kind of the only place to really

1891
01:17:54,080 --> 01:17:55,040
put that.

1892
01:17:55,040 --> 01:17:59,199
>> Yeah, it is tight. Okay, we can move on.

1893
01:17:59,199 --> 01:18:01,199
>> Okay, Commissioner Cook moves to close

1894
01:18:01,199 --> 01:18:06,310
the public hearing for NOI 0283116.

1895
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:08,159
» Commissioner Sergeant seconds. We'll

1896
01:18:08,159 --> 01:18:09,440
call member Cook.

1897
01:18:09,440 --> 01:18:10,239
>> Yes.

1898
01:18:10,239 --> 01:18:10,880
>> Sergeant,

1899
01:18:10,880 --> 01:18:12,239
>> yes. Memberes,

1900
01:18:12,239 --> 01:18:13,679
>> yes. Member Jackson,

1901
01:18:13,679 --> 01:18:15,199
>> yes.

1902
01:18:15,199 --> 01:18:17,440
>> Okay. Commissioner Cook moves to approve

1903
01:18:17,440 --> 01:18:21,669
NOI 0283116.

1904
01:18:21,679 --> 01:18:23,520
» Sergeant seconds.

1905
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:24,719
>> All member Cook.

1906
01:18:24,719 --> 01:18:25,520
>> Yes.

1907
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:26,080
>> Sergeant.

1908
01:18:26,080 --> 01:18:27,199
>> Yes. Ladies.

1909
01:18:27,199 --> 01:18:28,800
>> Yes. Member Jackson.

1910
01:18:28,800 --> 01:18:30,400
>> Yes.

1911
01:18:30,400 --> 01:18:32,239
Okay. You're set.

1912
01:18:32,239 --> 01:18:34,320
>> I appreciate it. Have a good night.

1913
01:18:34,320 --> 01:18:36,640
>> You too. Okay. Certificates of

1914
01:18:36,640 --> 01:18:40,960
compliance. First up is RCOC 0281933

1915
01:18:40,960 --> 01:18:43,679
at 3 Welch Lane. Ratification of

1916
01:18:43,679 --> 01:18:47,520
unissued 2016 COC represented by Joel

1917
01:18:47,520 --> 01:18:50,960
Favaza Seaside Legal Solutions PC.

1918
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:54,080
Chuck, any catch up on that?

1919
01:18:54,080 --> 01:18:56,480
>> Uh, I believe the uh the rest of the

1920
01:18:56,480 --> 01:19:00,719
discussion for 367 has been continued to

1921
01:19:00,719 --> 01:19:04,159
April 15th. So I imagine we will

1922
01:19:04,159 --> 01:19:06,400
resume discussion of the COC at that

1923
01:19:06,400 --> 01:19:08,080
time.

1924
01:19:08,080 --> 01:19:11,520
>> Okay. So not until April 15th.

1925
01:19:11,520 --> 01:19:15,440
All right. 26. Okay,

1926
01:19:15,440 --> 01:19:18,400
let's move on to our COC. We've already

1927
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:21,520
taken care of 35 Masses,

1928
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:25,280
so we will move on to RCOC 0282842

1929
01:19:25,280 --> 01:19:30,159
at 50 Essex Avenue. Chuck,

1930
01:19:30,159 --> 01:19:32,719
>> so we have a couple folks here for that

1931
01:19:32,719 --> 01:19:34,719
project.

1932
01:19:34,719 --> 01:19:39,110
Okay.

1933
01:19:39,120 --> 01:19:42,470
» Is here

1934
01:19:42,480 --> 01:19:44,800
would they like to speak? Name and

1935
01:19:44,800 --> 01:19:47,280
address for the record, please.

1936
01:19:47,280 --> 01:19:49,520
>> Uh Eric Kelly, principal with Apex

1937
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:52,080
Companies uh in Wuburn, Massachusetts

1938
01:19:52,080 --> 01:19:55,679
for the city's design engineer record.

1939
01:19:55,679 --> 01:19:56,239
>> Okay.

1940
01:19:56,239 --> 01:19:57,679
>> And I'm joined tonight by my colleague

1941
01:19:57,679 --> 01:20:00,400
Dylan O'Donnell.

1942
01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:01,920
>> Okay.

1943
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:04,640
and you're here for

1944
01:20:04,640 --> 01:20:06,239
you're requesting a certificate of

1945
01:20:06,239 --> 01:20:08,400
compliance for 50 Essex Avenue and you

1946
01:20:08,400 --> 01:20:09,760
feel you have fulfilled all of the

1947
01:20:09,760 --> 01:20:11,199
conditions.

1948
01:20:11,199 --> 01:20:14,159
>> Yes, Dylan, you want to step through the

1949
01:20:14,159 --> 01:20:15,120
>> Yeah,

1950
01:20:15,120 --> 01:20:15,600
>> please.

1951
01:20:15,600 --> 01:20:17,679
>> Sure. Thank you, commissioners. So, like

1952
01:20:17,679 --> 01:20:19,040
you said, we're here tonight for 50

1953
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:21,120
Essex Avenue. Um we're formally

1954
01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:22,640
requesting the certificate of compliance

1955
01:20:22,640 --> 01:20:24,480
for the order of conditions, uh which

1956
01:20:24,480 --> 01:20:27,600
was issued for the project back in 2022.

1957
01:20:27,600 --> 01:20:30,640
So, we've submitted the the request for

1958
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:32,560
certificate of compliance and we believe

1959
01:20:32,560 --> 01:20:34,320
the project has been constructed in

1960
01:20:34,320 --> 01:20:35,920
substantial compliance with the plans

1961
01:20:35,920 --> 01:20:38,239
and the conditions in the order. Um,

1962
01:20:38,239 --> 01:20:40,000
with that being said, there is one

1963
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:41,840
condition in the order that's not yet

1964
01:20:41,840 --> 01:20:43,679
fully complete, and that's due to the

1965
01:20:43,679 --> 01:20:46,320
recent inclement weather. That's special

1966
01:20:46,320 --> 01:20:48,640
condition number 50, which requires that

1967
01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:50,719
stencils are placed on catch basin

1968
01:20:50,719 --> 01:20:53,840
inlets to indicate that the inlet is for

1969
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:56,000
the disposal of storm water only and

1970
01:20:56,000 --> 01:20:57,840
that it discharges to waterways or

1971
01:20:57,840 --> 01:21:00,320
wetlands. So, we have a plan in place

1972
01:21:00,320 --> 01:21:03,120
with the DPW to get that stenciling done

1973
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:05,040
on those catch basins once the weather

1974
01:21:05,040 --> 01:21:10,080
cooperates. Um, but other than that, concludes our request and um we'll

1975
01:21:10,080 --> 01:21:12,640
turn it back to you for any questions.

1976
01:21:12,640 --> 01:21:15,199
>> Okay. Thank you very much, Chuck. your

1977
01:21:15,199 --> 01:21:16,880
comments on this project.

1978
01:21:16,880 --> 01:21:18,400
>> Um, yeah, everything else looks really

1979
01:21:18,400 --> 01:21:19,840
good out there. Uh, I've been out there

1980
01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:22,080
several times uh throughout the process.

1981
01:21:22,080 --> 01:21:24,719
Uh, checking on the uh mitigation

1982
01:21:24,719 --> 01:21:27,280
plantings and all that. Um, and

1983
01:21:27,280 --> 01:21:30,400
everything's always looked uh, you know,

1984
01:21:30,400 --> 01:21:31,760
good order out there and and the

1985
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:34,080
plantings are uh doing doing well. They

1986
01:21:34,080 --> 01:21:35,920
did have some uh stuff that was

1987
01:21:35,920 --> 01:21:37,679
replanted after the first season, but

1988
01:21:37,679 --> 01:21:39,920
uh,

1989
01:21:39,920 --> 01:21:41,120
everything I've seen out there looks

1990
01:21:41,120 --> 01:21:42,480
pretty good.

1991
01:21:42,480 --> 01:21:44,080
>> Okay. And you had suggested some

1992
01:21:44,080 --> 01:21:45,600
continuing conditions.

1993
01:21:45,600 --> 01:21:47,440
>> Uh so yeah, there are some continuing

1994
01:21:47,440 --> 01:21:49,120
conditions from the the order of

1995
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:52,719
conditions. Uh mostly dealing with uh um

1996
01:21:52,719 --> 01:21:57,280
no uh storage uh storm water cleanout,

1997
01:21:57,280 --> 01:21:59,520
that sort of thing. Um so it looks like

1998
01:21:59,520 --> 01:22:04,960
uh special conditions 29, 51, 52, and 57

1999
01:22:04,960 --> 01:22:06,560
through 61.

2000
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:09,920
>> Okay. Do any other

2001
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:11,360
>> Did you have any additional comments,

2002
01:22:11,360 --> 01:22:12,960
Chuck? No.

2003
01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:14,639
>> Okay. Do any other commissioners have

2004
01:22:14,639 --> 01:22:16,639
comments on anything that's been discuss

2005
01:22:16,639 --> 01:22:19,750
discussed?

2006
01:22:19,760 --> 01:22:21,920
» We should if we're going to approve it,

2007
01:22:21,920 --> 01:22:24,239
we should approve it with those um

2008
01:22:24,239 --> 01:22:25,760
constituent conditions.

2009
01:22:25,760 --> 01:22:29,520
>> Yes, absolutely. Um Chuck, can we

2010
01:22:29,520 --> 01:22:31,760
approve this on the condition that the

2011
01:22:31,760 --> 01:22:34,639
stenciling get put into place?

2012
01:22:34,639 --> 01:22:36,639
>> I'm comfortable with that. We have, you

2013
01:22:36,639 --> 01:22:39,199
know, a continuing uh NOI out there for

2014
01:22:39,199 --> 01:22:42,320
additional work. Um, so it's, you know,

2015
01:22:42,320 --> 01:22:44,960
it's on my radar, but it's, you know, if

2016
01:22:44,960 --> 01:22:46,159
the commission is comfortable with that,

2017
01:22:46,159 --> 01:22:47,520
I I am.

2018
01:22:47,520 --> 01:22:49,199
>> Is there anyone who is not comfortable

2019
01:22:49,199 --> 01:22:53,440
with it? Speak now. Okay. All right.

2020
01:22:53,440 --> 01:22:55,440
Then I will entertain a motion to issue

2021
01:22:55,440 --> 01:22:58,239
the uh certificate of compliance for 50

2022
01:22:58,239 --> 01:23:00,480
Essex Avenue with the continuing

2023
01:23:00,480 --> 01:23:02,400
conditions and that condition of the

2024
01:23:02,400 --> 01:23:06,239
stenciling taking place.

2025
01:23:06,239 --> 01:23:06,719
>> Commissioner,

2026
01:23:06,719 --> 01:23:08,400
>> thank you very much.

2027
01:23:08,400 --> 01:23:11,280
Commissioner Cook moves to issue the

2028
01:23:11,280 --> 01:23:16,400
certificate of compliance for 0282842

2029
01:23:16,400 --> 01:23:20,880
at 50 Essex Avenue with the motions.

2030
01:23:20,880 --> 01:23:23,520
Sergeant seconds call. Member Cook.

2031
01:23:23,520 --> 01:23:24,320
>> Yes.

2032
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:26,480
>> Sergeant. Yes. Member.

2033
01:23:26,480 --> 01:23:26,960
>> Yes.

2034
01:23:26,960 --> 01:23:27,920
>> Member Jackson.

2035
01:23:27,920 --> 01:23:30,320
>> Yes.

2036
01:23:30,320 --> 01:23:33,280
All right. You're all set.

2037
01:23:33,280 --> 01:23:35,679
>> Great. Thanks. Oh, we'll let DPW know

2038
01:23:35,679 --> 01:23:37,440
and we'll coordinate with Chuck once we

2039
01:23:37,440 --> 01:23:39,280
get the stencils installed.

2040
01:23:39,280 --> 01:23:40,719
>> That'd be wonderful. It's all we needed

2041
01:23:40,719 --> 01:23:42,239
to hear. Thank you so much.

2042
01:23:42,239 --> 01:23:43,840
>> Okay, take care.

2043
01:23:43,840 --> 01:23:47,840
>> You too. Okay, next up, violations e

2044
01:23:47,840 --> 01:23:51,840
enforcement order 2401 at 137 Wingershik

2045
01:23:51,840 --> 01:23:54,000
Road. Any new information on that one,

2046
01:23:54,000 --> 01:23:55,440
Chuck?

2047
01:23:55,440 --> 01:23:57,840
>> Uh, I hadn't heard anything. I reached

2048
01:23:57,840 --> 01:24:03,360
out uh to Mr. Nin uh yesterday. Um, I

2049
01:24:03,360 --> 01:24:06,000
know, uh, Mike D. Rosa has been on

2050
01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:10,800
vacation and has just returned. Um, and

2051
01:24:10,800 --> 01:24:14,000
Mike was included on an email today, uh,

2052
01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:16,639
saying that they will get out there uh,

2053
01:24:16,639 --> 01:24:19,360
the end of this week and kind of get the

2054
01:24:19,360 --> 01:24:21,040
plan together for the removal of the

2055
01:24:21,040 --> 01:24:24,320
ramp and then start working on uh, you

2056
01:24:24,320 --> 01:24:26,000
know, what needs to be done for

2057
01:24:26,000 --> 01:24:28,800
restoration plan and they have that to

2058
01:24:28,800 --> 01:24:31,280
us before the next meeting.

2059
01:24:31,280 --> 01:24:32,960
The ramp needs to be removed before

2060
01:24:32,960 --> 01:24:34,000
April 1st.

2061
01:24:34,000 --> 01:24:35,120
>> Yes.

2062
01:24:35,120 --> 01:24:38,239
>> And at the last meeting they said that

2063
01:24:38,239 --> 01:24:41,440
they would get done probably

2064
01:24:41,440 --> 01:24:43,280
by Wednesday.

2065
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:43,679
>> Yes.

2066
01:24:43,679 --> 01:24:46,639
>> Right. And that didn't happen. So the

2067
01:24:46,639 --> 01:24:48,719
next meeting we have is April 1st.

2068
01:24:48,719 --> 01:24:49,120
>> Yep.

2069
01:24:49,120 --> 01:24:51,120
>> And if the ramp isn't removed, it can't

2070
01:24:51,120 --> 01:24:55,199
be removed after that

2071
01:24:55,199 --> 01:24:58,639
>> unless Yes. Unless there's uh um

2072
01:24:58,639 --> 01:25:04,800
approval of national heritage and that it doesn't come immediately either,

2073
01:25:04,800 --> 01:25:06,400
does it?

2074
01:25:06,400 --> 01:25:09,440
>> Um should we be potentially thinking

2075
01:25:09,440 --> 01:25:12,000
about um

2076
01:25:12,000 --> 01:25:14,400
financial penalties if it isn't done by

2077
01:25:14,400 --> 01:25:16,960
April 1st?

2078
01:25:16,960 --> 01:25:20,560
Uh up to the commission, but seems uh

2079
01:25:20,560 --> 01:25:25,430
>> I think that's eminently reasonable.

2080
01:25:25,440 --> 01:25:26,960
Um,

2081
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:29,600
can I make a motion that we consider

2082
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:32,239
that? Yes, you may.

2083
01:25:32,239 --> 01:25:34,719
>> I make a motion that if the ramp is not

2084
01:25:34,719 --> 01:25:37,840
um removed by April 1st that the

2085
01:25:37,840 --> 01:25:41,120
commission um um levy civil penalties,

2086
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:44,159
you know, against the applicant for um

2087
01:25:44,159 --> 01:25:46,880
for violation.

2088
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:49,040
>> I'll second that.

2089
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:50,560
>> Roll call. Member Cook.

2090
01:25:50,560 --> 01:25:52,080
>> Yes.

2091
01:25:52,080 --> 01:25:53,760
realities.

2092
01:25:53,760 --> 01:25:57,840
>> Yes.

2093
01:25:57,840 --> 01:26:01,360
>> Okay. I will uh obey that. Uh

2094
01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:06,629
Mr. N.

2095
01:26:06,639 --> 01:26:08,800
» Okay. Thank you. Is there any other

2096
01:26:08,800 --> 01:26:10,719
business which has to come before the

2097
01:26:10,719 --> 01:26:13,040
meeting?

2098
01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:16,310
Um

2099
01:26:16,320 --> 01:26:18,800
the other update I have is

2100
01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:21,760
the member sergeant has about

2101
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:24,480
a ton Kirk Road I believe.

2102
01:26:24,480 --> 01:26:28,320
>> Yes. Made a violation with the uh uh

2103
01:26:28,320 --> 01:26:32,719
floats being stored on the salt. Um I do

2104
01:26:32,719 --> 01:26:34,960
have a site visit out there scheduled

2105
01:26:34,960 --> 01:26:38,480
with Harbor Master and Shellfish on uh

2106
01:26:38,480 --> 01:26:41,120
Friday. um they they have applied for

2107
01:26:41,120 --> 01:26:44,800
the uh 10A permit and so we will get

2108
01:26:44,800 --> 01:26:47,679
there on Friday and I can update you uh

2109
01:26:47,679 --> 01:26:49,600
on what's happening on that after after

2110
01:26:49,600 --> 01:26:53,110
that visit.

2111
01:26:53,120 --> 01:26:55,600
» Okay.

2112
01:26:55,600 --> 01:26:58,880
Is there anything else?

2113
01:26:58,880 --> 01:27:01,920
I'm sorry I'm distracted. I have to get

2114
01:27:01,920 --> 01:27:04,960
a an injured lizard to a wildlife

2115
01:27:04,960 --> 01:27:07,440
center.

2116
01:27:07,440 --> 01:27:10,400
But um and I'm just going back with my

2117
01:27:10,400 --> 01:27:12,320
daughter to see who's going to take this

2118
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:14,639
lizard. Um

2119
01:27:14,639 --> 01:27:17,600
>> is he insured through Gecko?

2120
01:27:17,600 --> 01:27:18,960
>> Is he what?

2121
01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:21,040
>> Insured through Gecko.

2122
01:27:21,040 --> 01:27:25,120
>> Truly truly. God, I sadly to say I don't

2123
01:27:25,120 --> 01:27:28,400
think he has any insurance whatsoever.

2124
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:31,520
I didn't think my dog was outside with

2125
01:27:31,520 --> 01:27:33,040
my husband and I didn't think the dog

2126
01:27:33,040 --> 01:27:35,440
could catch anything. Um, these things

2127
01:27:35,440 --> 01:27:37,920
are fast. And apparently he caught this

2128
01:27:37,920 --> 01:27:42,000
one and my husband rescued it. But he

2129
01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:43,760
can't move his back legs. He can move

2130
01:27:43,760 --> 01:27:45,679
his front. He scurries around. So I have

2131
01:27:45,679 --> 01:27:47,520
to catch him. He's under a chair right

2132
01:27:47,520 --> 01:27:51,679
now with a dish of water beside him. So

2133
01:27:51,679 --> 01:27:53,280
I will see if I can catch him. I called

2134
01:27:53,280 --> 01:27:54,880
the wildlife center and they said if he

2135
01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:56,560
had been attacked by a dog, he needed to

2136
01:27:56,560 --> 01:28:02,390
be brought in. This is 35 minutes away.

2137
01:28:02,400 --> 01:28:03,840
» Oh god.

2138
01:28:03,840 --> 01:28:06,000
Yeah. So, we will see. I'll try to keep

2139
01:28:06,000 --> 01:28:07,840
you all posted.

2140
01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:09,520
>> Well, thank you.

2141
01:28:09,520 --> 01:28:11,280
>> All right.

2142
01:28:11,280 --> 01:28:13,280
So, if there's nothing else.

2143
01:28:13,280 --> 01:28:15,280
>> Nope. And I think it was a successful

2144
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:16,560
meeting.

2145
01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:18,560
>> Yeah. We got a lot of things passed. We

2146
01:28:18,560 --> 01:28:21,840
got a lot of movement forward.

2147
01:28:21,840 --> 01:28:23,120
>> Good.

2148
01:28:23,120 --> 01:28:26,080
>> And one thing stalling and stalling is

2149
01:28:26,080 --> 01:28:28,560
stalling again at the end of Wingers.

2150
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:31,920
>> Yeah. Yeah. He is. No question about

2151
01:28:31,920 --> 01:28:35,920
that. So, I think the more concerned we

2152
01:28:35,920 --> 01:28:37,760
can get him to be, the better off we

2153
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:38,719
are.

2154
01:28:38,719 --> 01:28:40,960
>> Is the Is that the enforcement order?

2155
01:28:40,960 --> 01:28:41,920
>> Yeah.

2156
01:28:41,920 --> 01:28:44,080
>> Yep.

2157
01:28:44,080 --> 01:28:46,639
>> Okay.

2158
01:28:46,639 --> 01:28:48,080
>> Yeah. And the other one, Chuck, that you

2159
01:28:48,080 --> 01:28:49,760
can probably start mentioning to them

2160
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:51,520
talking about the enforcement orders is

2161
01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:54,239
over at Whistle Stop. Uh, now that all

2162
01:28:54,239 --> 01:28:56,400
the snow's gone and, you know, within

2163
01:28:56,400 --> 01:28:59,040
the next couple weeks, um, I think they

2164
01:28:59,040 --> 01:29:02,159
should be moving into phase two.

2165
01:29:02,159 --> 01:29:04,159
Yep. I will reach out to them and kind

2166
01:29:04,159 --> 01:29:05,679
of see if they have a game plan for the

2167
01:29:05,679 --> 01:29:10,229
spring.

2168
01:29:10,239 --> 01:29:12,480
» Okay. Commissioner Cook makes a motion

2169
01:29:12,480 --> 01:29:14,960
to adjourn.

2170
01:29:14,960 --> 01:29:16,800
>> Sergeant seconds. We'll call member

2171
01:29:16,800 --> 01:29:17,440
Cook.

2172
01:29:17,440 --> 01:29:18,320
>> Yes.

2173
01:29:18,320 --> 01:29:18,800
>> Sergeant.

2174
01:29:18,800 --> 01:29:20,159
>> Yes. Memberes.

2175
01:29:20,159 --> 01:29:20,480
>> Yes.

2176
01:29:20,480 --> 01:29:22,400
>> And member Jackson.

2177
01:29:22,400 --> 01:29:25,040
>> Yes. We are all set. Thank you very

2178
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:26,159
much, folks. Okay.

2179
01:29:26,159 --> 01:29:27,920
>> Go take care of a lizard.

2180
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:32,960
>> I'm going to go do that right now. bye.