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I thought Joseph said, my wife had a, their work had already, I think he was going to go to work.

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I'm going to use your wife, Walker.

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Your job for all I

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need.

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Why is it not saying that it is recording? I'm not sure why it's something.

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So now, 930 will call the workshop for the very county commissioners from May 6, 2025 to 4.

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First, item of business is public works.

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Vote for the best.

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Yes, and then.

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And on time, let's fetch and go.

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That's a good time in.

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Thank you, Andrew.

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Morning. Morning.

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Morning.

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How are you doing?

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I'm awake.

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Thank you.

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Good morning.

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Good morning.

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Good morning.

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That is a good week.

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Is the beauty coming here today?

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Oh no.

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Five months.

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Nice to meet you.

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I don't respond.

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Like, that is cool.

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They finally responded.

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Not to me.

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A little more.

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Reach out.

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And then.

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Yeah, yes.

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I mean, I mean, I was in Furry.

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Did you freeze out a little?

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Yes, we've read those questions in the first two ten.

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So, this is seven.

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Today's seven last thing I'm going to be able to know.

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And the good answer for you, and you said.

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Oh, yes, anytime.

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I'm already.

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Okay.

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Bill said they were like, oh, yeah.

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Yeah, I'm like,

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somewhere else I'm going to thought. Okay, not wrong. I think we have a few things on your consent agenda. First is the approval,

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local agency agreement was going to be kindly for our on-call and environmental services.

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Item E is local agency agreement with the applied archeological research.

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it's the extension of their payment. These are things we have to have for permitting for projects

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nowadays. So we have to have that expertise and do a network that you have to enhance.

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Item F is the, is the notice for the public hearing to advertise for DALS Port waste water sewer

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great increase. And we talked about this last week, it will be in the paper on tomorrow.

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That's the half, the hearing at one thirty here. Okay, I think that's all I have. It's big.

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All right, I'm construction, sunny side road overlay, we're still on hold.

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As the contractors work on other work, pickled in a highway, the contractors,

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getting start crushing this week in Madison for their asphalt aggregates for that project.

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White plastic edge lines the work has been completed. So we'll look through the closure

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of that project next. 2025 annual striping working with the contractor schedule pre-construction

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conference and a start date for that work. On design, not a whole lot has changed. We're still

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waiting for the environmental approvals on the bridge windows, safety plan update contract

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contractors working or the consultants, sorry, is working away on that. And fire damage

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garb or repairs, we hope to have a notice contractors to the board agenda next week so we get

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that out to add. Okay, on the maintenance side, the east end, we're doing shoulders on Pickleton

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Highway, Subspot Graveling, grading and some rooming of sand. On the west end, we're crap ceiling

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for the port. We're also today we're practicing with wastewater treatment plant.

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Parking on there and they're drying bins and then we'll be practicing for white sand and on

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docked green. We're going to be planting trees and traveling park. We're trying to refurbish the trees.

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say it at a taking out 30 pine trees. And then, you know, the, the trout lake

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citizens went in and thinned some of the other trees. Now, a little talk about that,

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but it's fine. And then we get some great. We're going to do some great. On the

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facility side, we had one more thing still at the court, in the court room, it

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took a while to get the meat, rescheduled at nine to time. We got down there. Two days

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the whole month of May, where we could meet. And May 13th is the day to talk about the acoustics.

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On the event site, Oregon Trail Rally, of Still May 17th, home in Garden went well, and the

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Doffs went well, or the Quackers, which is Doffs of London.

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I don't like the Docks.

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A few while I would refine the lives in the plans to go to bed.

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GLF Grades were working through that, a grandstand south end, a work assigned going.

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We've got great, mostly electrical, is rough, did now, all the outlets, and we're also

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running for the water bottle, so that's where the water bottle is, there we go.

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Energy audit, the walkthroughs next week with the consultant, the auditor remodel, or the

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of all the plastic glass windows have been installed now.

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So now we just got to finish trim around.

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So those works happen typically on weekend.

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We're just getting quotes on the grading and on the airboard project,

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that pictures are from this is the mass grading.

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You'll see the different iterations of the mass grading.

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So they are moving forward, they're about, and maybe halfway up at the past grade.

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And that one area you see that they're using an excavator in off-road is, there was a soft spot.

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That's why they're going deeper.

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Yeah, it couldn't heal it up.

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Which is good.

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You're on those big heavy trucks across.

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You find any areas that are pumping.

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Yeah, it's a little bit longer because that is a different different compaction rate

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because you want to have it to practice the bill leads.

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They don't have to go back and rate them back.

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Method C, I believe.

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Method C.

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Question on the actual bid then.

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Did we take in consideration for additional rock?

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Yes, we got a lot of rock eggs.

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I mean, just when you hit these soft spots.

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They can fill that with on-site stuff that we had

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because there's so much rock that would be dug out of those piles

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and everything.

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So they'll use that.

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We do have some.

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Not as much soft, but a lot of hard-bought

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calculated it is because when they start going

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be the hard rock. We'll go from that. Oh, fucking. To chip in through rock when we start

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foot and utilities.

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Think that's all we have. Be as you're going today.

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Question to back

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up. Okay. Make sure to understand it correctly. So you've already sent out public notice

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for the hearing. Yeah, it goes out in the paper tomorrow. There's nothing we can do to change

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two weeks or 13 days ago.

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Yeah, we'll, oh, see Doug, yes, we will post it in the community center tomorrow, but it is coming out of the paper tomorrow.

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It was a minute to the paper already.

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Yeah, we submitted the last week. That's why we, I know that. Yeah, before the Monday.

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Yeah, that's why we had to get permission last week to do it. So we could get it in the paper.

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That's where we got written permission and then, well, you guys signed the advertisement.

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It's still a paper, doesn't that?

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You said comedies and all that.

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I thought they did.

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Have a meeting this afternoon with the RTC.

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And I assume we're going to be looking at the adoption of the ClickDat County Transportation module.

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module, the Adam and put together, and you were on board with that, with what we recommended on changes.

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Yep, they have those are all included so.

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I just find a little chair.

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Yep.

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That's good.

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That's for what?

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Result transportation.

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Maybe.

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If not a 8% parking.

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But 2% is communion and cuts that county.

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and they had sent out a transportation draft.

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They're playing.

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And it's basically like anything else.

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It's got to be on a plan if you want funding,

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or anything.

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Same process.

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And so that meetings this evening at four.

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So we had done some amendments through the original plan.

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I think we included up to the firgrings.

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There's a chain seven, while we added the element to the, yeah, out to the dot road or

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dot road.

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Whatever.

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That depot road.

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And while we added north Columbus, foster loop road, all of that, all that

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pieces have been added.

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So the walking, the multi-use area is more or less what they're looking for, transportation

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obviously.

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Yeah.

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Because it's not, you know, it's hiking, biking, access to services, a certain sort of

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all different modes of transportation.

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So we had a few pieces.

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Okay.

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I just wanted to make sure you reviewed it.

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You're okay with it.

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Yeah, that in a quick that trail, that was added to it too.

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Yeah, the whole quick that trail, highway 142.

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Oh, yes, the dream project.

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And Sharon was involved seeing your services.

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Not in.

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Oh, that's the dream project.

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That's for athletes.

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What section is that on the 42 from that you're held down or where was that section? Do you know it's for the trail?

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Yeah, it was in the town to click a tap.

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Okay, so you're not going to tap that half that we did and then down to the community center and to the launch that was added.

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Yeah, I just bring it up because that's probably our only two for actually probably 1% that we get to talk about.

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It's mostly about white rail, Clark County.

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Correct.

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Transportation and Clark County, but it's important for us to be on top of the low bit and

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have a ramp up.

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And then Seth and I attended the safety.

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What was the official name of that?

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Safety conference.

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Yes, S4U is the name of the grant, so safe streets for all, and they're doing it.

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It's not necessarily a road safety plan.

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It's a more of a community involvement approach to safety.

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So they're doing an action plan, I guess, is what they're calling it.

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Which I have some more information we should talk about later on from Scamingy County.

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Some things they came up with.

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Okay, because Scamingy County was involved in that too.

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It was for a click that, Scamingy County and both engineers were involved with that.

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the mayor's sitting away to say I'm an invention was involved because it has to do with

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the intersection still, accidents, right. I thought I was a good process. Appreciate you going.

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I don't have anything else. I need mission or zolver maybe today.

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I also needed this if you're going to go to a liel tomorrow. We'll talk about it. Okay.

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place lately after you interview it. Great. We'll be here. Yeah, yeah, I'll be here. Okay, so that's

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gathering up some other stuff to greet you, and I won't have it. Okay, and all that's fine. Okay,

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thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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All right, we'll go to Bill if you're ready to go. I don't think I'll just take it for just a second. Okay,

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Well, that was the one. Okay. Okay, I don't know why. I will catch up with you. Okay, I can't remember why.

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I'll give you something. Yes. It must be capital projects in the jail.

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Maybe.

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Well, good morning. Thank you for the interview.

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That I see. I grabbed it on for it. But I can figure it out.

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All right, so before I begin, this week goes off,

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and we have a single denial, and then top of Tuesday,

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but something that's also often forgotten about the first week of May,

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is that in 1984,

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President Reagan declared, I know you think I'm going to build a history thing, declared this, the first week of May national correctional officers week.

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It's often overlooked in the industry. It's not a forward-facing profession. In 1996, Congress amended that to a correctional worker week, where we acknowledged all the correctional workers and the hard work thing.

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That they do, so I wanted to just begin by thanking the men and women that work so hard for the quick attack county jail.

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They're an amazing, brave group of people to work with,

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acknowledge that before we move on.

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Thank you.

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With that, we got two vacancies still.

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We've been recruiting, I've been calling people that have been on the, on the, on the,

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applied to guide them into public safety testing, but nobody

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can offer, of course, to pay their testing fees, but nobody's

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pulled the trigger to actually go through the entire process.

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But that's a couple of tests done, and then people stop me

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short of taking the PT assessment, and physical

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the physical abilities test and then nobody's gone to the polygraph or background and so

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we continue to work on that, for strategizing on other recruitment in our area but that's

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pretty limited.

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So we continue to work on that. An area of concern that I have is with the

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with the weather changing staff for leaving count for the weekends and being down essentially

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one crew now, and if I have two or three people leaving the area, it leaves my people in the

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health of the virus box, able to come in to cover vacancies is pretty much mil. And so when we're

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really working hard to economize the resources that we have on site and predict like transportation,

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but transportation's been killing us. It's just for myself, the last five weeks I've been

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the Eastern State Hospital. And those are sometimes two staff nine hour days. And yeah,

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just this last week, I spent just 12 hours on transportation. So that's the fifth,

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a fifth of the week doing doing that. And so I don't say it to cry, just say it to highlight

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some of the challenges that we're doing that were having to overcome.

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Our food service contract,

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The RFP was reviewed and it's been determined that we will remain with the contract that we currently have.

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Let's get you some simple assembly products at 4.5% increase to go with the other person.

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Using the metric of 2024 of 33 people in custody per day.

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The metrics before that year before that because of COVID are not accurate.

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So, it's really the only one we have to do about, so that's essentially 100 meals per day.

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With that right now, it's 36,500 meals per year.

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At $7.25, it's $264,000, $625 plus roughly $19,900, which is roughly $284,770.

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budgeted for $165,000, which please me, about $197,70.

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You had one.

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A professional company again?

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Yeah.

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They provide a few services to the scale, all over the last day.

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Their meal rate was less, however, they charged a $575 daily rate.

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It's at 525 to a quarter of the neighbor.

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Yeah, in this ex-perf meal after that.

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So that fluctuates on your population up to 50.

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And so when you add up all those costs

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and you use the metric of 33 to the same,

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that there's a 4.5% higher.

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Do any jails do meal service in the house?

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Yep.

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Yeah, I mean, it's not a herd of, there are, it's a question that people that us prepared to answer.

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With that, the American, ACAC, the American Congressional Association of Standards, there's requirements for nutrition and dietary needs.

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And so the challenge with that is really having three staff to work in their kind of part-time

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and then having those meals per hair delivered cooked and then dealing with special diets

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and all of the things that go along with that. And then when you have an agency we own that.

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So, if I could fill a cook's position, that could be really catastrophic for us.

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I have reached out to Department of Corrections, Washington State Professional Industries, who does provide meal service.

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And keep in that bill and we're going to revisit the conversation.

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Then after their June July burst, and if we can get with them, that will be as substantial savings for us.

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And there are some intricacies, a little planning around that like they bring them in frozen and we have to return them, but I have a plan for that in place. So if we get that, we'll be able to execute that plan and should be able to maintain our current budget. That's the only key button. I told them that.

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you can keep running. So KVH, that's my question. So that's interesting. I can't speak for them.

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I only received a 1 RFP and a 1 RFP. I didn't know if you set them a RFP. There was communication

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with the KVH. Oh, I'm going to know. Um, our body-one camera contract,

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they, they,

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the lawyers figured it out and they have amended their language it's going to the PA.

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To come back and that's the the separating of contracts from the Sheriff's Office and the jail.

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The bottom line of that is that will be around a 67,936 dollar cost to separate that.

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that's just on the jail end are in cell vital monitoring, that's moving forward, having discussions

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with the installers to figure, because we're so small if they come in and disrupt the 20% of

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our operation that takes away my observation cells, my crisis cells, and so many cells. So I'm working

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with them to figure out how we can minimally impact that, and some of that is having them do a

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of the assembly and work stuff, so it can be a quick install inside the cell, so we don't

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actually lose the physical part of the cell while that monitoring of equipment's needs.

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Well, the body can, when we do care, can we give it to a speaker?

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Got a big video on the line and what I'd like to hear you out.

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Thank you.

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Just to remind the commissioners that we knew the body can issue last year,

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after the budget was put together, but we started communicating the Motorola

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It's an officer safety issue, it's just took a long time to get to this point, but that was

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it was going to be a no experience, we just didn't know how much at the time. So it's not

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anything new that sense the change over. Thank you. I appreciate you saying that something because

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I was going to come back to it when you were dead. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.

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So yes, so that's a while monitoring equipment will be coming in and a huge, huge asset to us.

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I know we've had a person up there on suicide watch now for four days, going on there for a thing today.

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We had one person, a punch so violently at window that they shattered it, broke it, needed to be replaced and it'll sell.

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So if that being down is an officer safety issue, I might already make sure that we get to keep them.

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So, some good news, this is my kind of boss A, right?

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Some of it over some super positive stuff.

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So we've had some discussions with our current phone

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contractor for the emittelephones.

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And I can imagine, I grew up in a small town,

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I could imagine what we'd be like to put in jail

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in a small town.

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And some of the screening that we do,

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we try to screen for suicidal ideation and suicidal thoughts.

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But somebody might not feel comfortable disclosing that information to an employee that works with us.

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And so we've explored options with our phone vendor to have on the inmate phone system.

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But that they can push to connect them to a suicide crisis line,

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where they can get somebody outside of our organization.

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Of course, best will be for them to report to us, so we can do it.

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But if they choose not to, at least there's a backup secondary option.

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by phone and we have there's also a service at the jail where it makes can communicate with

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family on a tablet and we're looking at getting that onto the tablet this well so they

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could immediately talk to somebody on a suicide crisis line and then part of their problem,

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their process is they follow up later and so we'll work out those logistics when they come

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but excited about that. We are working on installing an RKN vending machine in our jail lobby.

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This would be a service for families who might be picking up a large portion of the people

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that we deal with are co-dependent on alcohol and drugs and opioids. We all know that they're

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very predominant. And so very common for them to come in and take to opioids. And so we're going

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to have a service there. So there's a vending machine. So if a loved one's picking something up

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or a person chooses to take it on the way out that they can have that.

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There'd also be because it's a public area, it'd be available to public as well.

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If they needed wanting to come in and obtain one of those products.

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And how is that being under that?

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I don't know, it's free.

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It's a, I don't know the all the acronyms.

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Oh, it's a third part.

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It's a third part.

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Yeah.

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Bring it in.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, the only thing that will cost us is the electricity to plug it in in the bottom and just to geopolder on the third party vendors

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Right, the geopones are set completely separate what I'm talking about. This is a vendor for

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The Narkend shit, right?

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Yeah, yeah, that cost is nothing just a place to put it and that's you want to design all the awesome sound absolutely

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Yeah, and so it's the same same kind of thing and probably the same process

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That was my first question, dude. What's it gonna cost right? Wow

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but could be at every asset and so we have secure state contracts stuff back again

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I said that a new at this part of the acquisition process so I feel like I've

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drove my feet a little bit on it but not intentionally we've received some numbers back

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on that and that and they'll see our needs with a state-of-proof contract vendor we are

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trying to find out what their delivery day is,

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because they, as I understand the batch of those,

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and that might be a 255 delivery day for all I know.

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But we're trying to see what that looks like,

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and then it can make some decisions on that,

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and that will be to replace our multiple transport

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man that will be affectionately.

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So our night lights and our holding cells

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are being installed this week, which will mean

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if for some reason crisis or holding no longer

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will there be an option for that light to be completely black,

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although the at nightlights so staff can have observation with them and it's kind of a passive light, so it's not too

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right now it's either all on a 100% bright LED stuff and I could hold the imagine

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being able to be intoxicated and trying to sleep that off with that bright light. Today I'll

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didn't want it off so they can sleep. So this will be a happy medium so we can do our job

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assessing their welfare and they can sleep it off. And then lastly we're kicking off

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on our 2025 mandatory training agenda,

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we're really excited about that.

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That's it.

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Thank you.

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You want to go into detail on the 2025 training agenda.

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Starts off today at the range.

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We'll be out there doing our weapons qualifications

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with our new weapons.

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We have defensive tactics and control tactics.

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line up, going to be working on that, we're going to try to do a large portion of that onsite

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on graveyard to rotate through there, and then some research to we have some criteria from

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the lawsuit settlement that requires some specific training and a procured that training.

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It's only happens like twice a year through CJTC, so it's really hard to get in and some

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it's like in-person and clear that I can't send 15 people there to do the in-person training. So we were

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looking at getting that chain available to us online so you can attend on-shift and online.

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So CPR first aid, A, E, B, the mandatory ones.

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So nice.

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Yeah.

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Anything else?

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No.

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No.

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All right.

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Thank you.

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Appreciate everything you do, Bill.

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Thank you.

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You may see me see.

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I know it's not.

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Well, yeah.

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What are all the games?

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And that was just highlight.

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I think I'm going to have an excerpt.

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Richard.

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I've got some handouts for you all the day. Thank you. Well, that's handy. Thank you, Richard.

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Look, I'm very dead, or today.

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Okay, so begin with, let's start with the math resources.

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We had two technical committee meetings, and we've had some CRC meetings, citizens for view committee meetings.

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Um, we have five projects that are being submitted to funding through by the

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Accommonation and two by the Eastern Cooket Conservation District.

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Um, I'll just go through the top five real quick, or at least five names.

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We have a lower white sentiment and river conservation acquisition.

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White Creek would replenish net phase three and schoolhouse Creek repairing

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revival.

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Those three are with the Accommonation and then we have two with the Eastern Cooket

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conservation district with the Pine Creek Fish Passage Phase 2 and the Simco Springs enhancement.

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I'll concern why I wouldn't say a concern below the note would be the lower white

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sand river conservation acquisition anytime you can see the word acquisition it means somebody's

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buying up some amount of land. This project is seeking a million dollars through the lead entity program

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in funding to allow the sponsor to acquire the area around the Waysan River from RN 3.3 to 5.6 which is the

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segment of the Waysan River that's within the former reservoir of the condit of the condit down.

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Who's this one? The Accommonation. So, how have the accommonation is looking to purchase that land for

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San and Restoration efforts? There's been a lot of discussion between the sponsor, the click

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that lead entity and the Recreation Conservation Office, RCO and the sponsors repeatedly

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through that they have no intention of removing public access and in addition every RCO contract

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that comes out of the RCO that's going to be trying to fund this. They basically put it within

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the contract that public access has fully made. So this is going to be within the contract.

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which is good news, but I know that there's a considerable discussion within the CRC of what that acquisition look like.

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All together with all five projects.

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We have a total ask of $2,167,500, which is likely to give you a lot greater than the funding that we're going to be receiving.

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but that being said, this will be the most projects that the click of that lead

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underneath has had in many years and when you know when we couple this with increased

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committee attendance, we're happy to report that we're stronger than we've been

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in quite some time for the natural resources department, it's part of engagement

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and public participation.

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And as despite the potential funding cuts and

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of the federal and state law law monitoring.

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So we started that.

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We've been engaged with that throughout the spring of 2025.

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So before we monitor twice once in spring and fall of 2024,

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the first period in 2024 gave us the time

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to rest-allows the network.

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And during the second period, we attempted

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to make contact with all property owners on the network.

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After the end of the second monitoring period,

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fall of 2024, we made the decision

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to remove the landowners that we were unable to contact and their hadn't been in the activity

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at those wells this time. So basically we'd right now have a total of active 100 or two wells

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that we monitored. That's down from 114. That was on the looks of the speak so we are in the

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nest as we go into the fall of kind of stand-up back up to about 115 wells to monitor.

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So location of where we're monitoring, I see an email from constituent in Hype Prairie, so I assume that's one of the areas.

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Yes.

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Yep.

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Or is that where we're working pretty much?

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We basically go, I want to say, in general, from Dicalt area all the way west to Glenwooden down the Hype Prairie.

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It's a pretty, pretty white swamp area.

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are there any areas you're targeting more than others, you know, we hear usual suspects from

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people that are having problems, so. No, we we stuck with Westman on the on the books,

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within within the natural resource department, so historically there's been about 115 that's

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always been on there, and when it comes to measuring the metrics of the wells of where those are at,

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you need to do, you need to be able to do a time series analysis on that if you wanted to,

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on a particular well over a 10 or 20 year time period

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and see what that kind of looks like.

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So we try to keep the wells kind of the same

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with the sample size, so it's been flooded in the battle.

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So what we can share that battle with.

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But I was wondering too,

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who set up those parameters in the beginning?

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Was it Department of Ecology?

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Was it Fish and Wildlife?

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What?

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Who wanted to know what?

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Was it because of river levels?

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Or was it because of losing wells for areas

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are over developing? I don't look into that. That's a very good question.

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They've been monitoring for a long time. Yeah, I would say at least the 10 years I've been

459
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:50,940
here. They've always wondered. I know that they've had, I know the county commissioners have

460
00:35:50,940 --> 00:35:55,480
had discussions in the past while which well they're kind of drying up, which ones are not.

461
00:35:55,680 --> 00:36:01,180
Some of the issues in the past was with different types of water rates, which ones are junior to

462
00:36:01,180 --> 00:36:07,180
other ones, as they are depleted through a rather, you know, whether it's residential impact or

463
00:36:07,180 --> 00:36:13,380
not change the droughts and things of that nation, but I can look at the end of that and all the boards of change

464
00:36:13,380 --> 00:36:19,340
I'd like to know what are we going to use that information for, you know, and how valuable is it?

465
00:36:19,580 --> 00:36:27,160
Are we targeting areas that we really need to see that we hear from people that they're low or was it designed to target?

466
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:28,920
What's happening on the rivers?

467
00:36:30,740 --> 00:36:32,060
I'm not sure if I got to look at that.

468
00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:33,320
Yeah, so I'll look at the answer.

469
00:36:33,540 --> 00:36:34,720
Yeah, and then I'll be part of that.

470
00:36:34,720 --> 00:36:42,780
I do know at least for how we're data. In the last year we've had one housing proposal

471
00:36:42,780 --> 00:36:47,700
in the work of Golden Dail that was looking to come in through the planning department they

472
00:36:47,700 --> 00:36:52,800
did a pre-submission meeting and they were asking for the for the well data and what that

473
00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:57,760
would look like at their housing development out there. Nothing came to fruition but that's.

474
00:36:58,420 --> 00:37:03,340
At least maybe we're creating valuable documents. Yeah. Yeah.

475
00:37:03,340 --> 00:37:08,600
It's interesting, because like said, when email said, you know, how much is level?

476
00:37:10,140 --> 00:37:10,780
It's gone down.

477
00:37:11,700 --> 00:37:20,320
And then I ran into somebody at the home guard show that said, we left up, and I pray, and actually, our aquifer must be to a better, because early church.

478
00:37:22,060 --> 00:37:22,500
Yeah.

479
00:37:23,180 --> 00:37:23,480
Another.

480
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:24,560
What?

481
00:37:24,940 --> 00:37:25,220
Better.

482
00:37:26,060 --> 00:37:26,100
Yes.

483
00:37:26,100 --> 00:37:30,540
So that's why I see long-term data that.

484
00:37:30,540 --> 00:37:40,200
I'm moving forward with economic development, KCQ to where we're looking at the scheduling and the executive committee meeting at the beginning of July.

485
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:51,340
I'll writing point-on-line funding usage and the possibility of utilizing that point-on-line for housing and what's in different options of that might look like.

486
00:37:51,340 --> 00:37:57,200
The executive committee has all three city mares and all three county commissioners

487
00:37:57,200 --> 00:38:02,920
and we would discuss basically what that would entail and hopefully that would be good timing

488
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:06,740
for kind of a brief to the full KCP or long July 22nd.

489
00:38:08,780 --> 00:38:11,080
So that's what the doodle polo is.

490
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:12,360
Yes.

491
00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:19,740
The Washington Economic Development Alliance, we have our next legislative retreat,

492
00:38:19,740 --> 00:38:24,960
doing 11th in All-Berg, summer conference is going to be on August 11th, 13th in Tacoma.

493
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:31,180
Sitting in Gavement, we're looking at doing a memorandum of understanding for the city of Goldell

494
00:38:31,180 --> 00:38:37,280
and Cadac County for consideration. The utilize approximately $116,000 from the point of

495
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:49,720
nine. That was approved from the KCP to board for the full consideration of the Board of

496
00:38:49,720 --> 00:38:52,840
know what the incubator space that the Goldellum does for a park.

497
00:38:53,540 --> 00:38:57,880
What's tied to that M.L.U is also a resolution from the county commissioner, so those

498
00:38:57,880 --> 00:39:00,220
would basically go in and in the hand.

499
00:39:00,460 --> 00:39:04,360
Before it gets to your desk, this still needs to go through PA's office, and this still needs

500
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:09,380
to go through the city of Goldell's process of signing on to that M.L.U, and make

501
00:39:09,380 --> 00:39:11,760
it sure everyone's good with it.

502
00:39:11,820 --> 00:39:17,200
So we're looking at maybe a month out before this contract, before you would see those contracts,

503
00:39:17,540 --> 00:39:20,120
So, it's kind of the heads up,

504
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:23,480
the click pattern, no sign.

505
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:26,740
This was the draft schedule that I gave you guys.

506
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:35,340
So basically the integrative planning grant for the click pattern no

507
00:39:35,340 --> 00:39:39,380
site is basically divided down into three tasks.

508
00:39:39,740 --> 00:39:45,840
Task 1 is remedial investigation task 2 is the feasibility study, and then task 3 is

509
00:39:45,840 --> 00:39:52,760
integrated planning. And so it basically lists out by a month what we're doing for each and every

510
00:39:53,820 --> 00:39:57,560
piece of this. The contractor is Mall Foster and Longie.

511
00:40:00,460 --> 00:40:07,820
This should be done by June 30th of 2026. So that's what the County Commission

512
00:40:07,820 --> 00:40:13,700
is what you all might be saying here shortly. My idea of contract extension going from June 30th of

513
00:40:13,700 --> 00:40:20,460
this year, you know, and basically standing that to June 30 of the next year, and this would

514
00:40:20,460 --> 00:40:24,960
be the contract between the county and the Department of the College,

515
00:40:27,350 --> 00:40:29,230
but outside of that,

516
00:40:29,450 --> 00:40:34,910
I tried to mitigate expectations. Historically, with some other people utilizing the integrated

517
00:40:34,910 --> 00:40:40,390
planogram, this might take two to three years. So we're being aggressive on shooting it for a year,

518
00:40:41,550 --> 00:40:43,490
but mitigating expectations.

519
00:40:45,310 --> 00:40:47,670
Additionally, we have a job fair

520
00:40:47,670 --> 00:40:50,070
that we sponsor every year at the Goldilb High School.

521
00:40:50,230 --> 00:40:54,890
This year it will be May 28th from 132 to 3 p.m.

522
00:40:55,130 --> 00:40:57,350
We've had several businesses attending

523
00:40:57,350 --> 00:41:00,050
as well as multiple county deferments,

524
00:41:00,350 --> 00:41:02,230
which includes the Department of Corrections

525
00:41:02,230 --> 00:41:05,570
and then our dispatch will be there for the job fair.

526
00:41:05,770 --> 00:41:07,330
Thank you for included that.

527
00:41:07,330 --> 00:41:09,170
Okay. That's a good.

528
00:41:11,420 --> 00:41:18,800
Our first portable housing advisory board meeting is going to be scheduled for May 22nd at 9 a.m. And that's to.

529
00:41:19,700 --> 00:41:28,940
That's our initial meeting, but the process that is basically utilizing the document firing fees. That's that's within that fund.

530
00:41:28,940 --> 00:41:41,940
That means what the document filing fees, so every time you file documents, the cost, a nickel instance, so that is really the fund rose very, very slowly and after eight years.

531
00:41:43,160 --> 00:41:45,280
Or about 160,000 dollars.

532
00:41:45,720 --> 00:41:53,060
And so we typically administer that, you know, every seven or eight years and then we let it build up again.

533
00:41:54,380 --> 00:41:55,760
So that's here then.

534
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:59,280
22nd? Yes, constructs.

535
00:42:02,620 --> 00:42:06,460
And then for reasonable engagement with our Department of Ecology folks,

536
00:42:06,500 --> 00:42:11,880
Chelsea will be attending the Washington State Brownfield Conference in the Aquaman later this month.

537
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:17,620
The agenda includes breakout sessions such as Brownfield's fundamentals workshop,

538
00:42:18,280 --> 00:42:24,820
pin-up opportunities, and rural communities, and or alternative investment analysis. And that's not

539
00:42:24,820 --> 00:42:27,320
just some things that potentially we could utilize.

540
00:42:27,500 --> 00:42:28,820
We've put that on the side of both of them.

541
00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:32,640
Maybe other properties within the county for local owners.

542
00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:37,960
So, for some state-level briefing stuff,

543
00:42:39,340 --> 00:42:42,360
we continue to monitor the state budget regarding the ADO funding,

544
00:42:43,540 --> 00:42:45,700
the Associate Development Organization funding

545
00:42:45,700 --> 00:42:48,340
is what funds our economic development specialist,

546
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:50,600
positioned as well as some of my wages.

547
00:42:51,740 --> 00:43:04,640
As proposed right now, commerce is looking at a total of 50% reduction in state funding for the program with new contracts that will go into effect July 1st.

548
00:43:05,360 --> 00:43:10,340
We've heard that the governor will not be making a final budget decision until May 19.

549
00:43:10,340 --> 00:43:19,900
A longer history of the ADO funding, because I know that sounds scary, is there's a $840,000

550
00:43:20,660 --> 00:43:35,480
per year reduction for the 2025-2027 by Ania, which brings it to $8,000, or $8,000, or $8,000,000, $4,000,000, $4,000 for the by Ania, which is just below the 2021-2021-2023 wells.

551
00:43:37,120 --> 00:43:41,160
So, really, we're just going back to the 2021 months.

552
00:43:42,060 --> 00:43:44,720
If that makes sense on the funding for the ADL specifically,

553
00:43:45,120 --> 00:43:47,380
I don't think we're going to be seeing much changes

554
00:43:47,380 --> 00:43:52,340
as far as what it does for us and our program for sample ages.

555
00:43:53,260 --> 00:43:54,500
I see it being the same.

556
00:43:55,560 --> 00:44:00,040
But because the ADL did a tremendous amount of work for the pandemic,

557
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:10,160
from 2021 to 2023. Well, from 2020 to 2023. So from 2020 to 2025, the governor's office gave

558
00:44:10,160 --> 00:44:15,320
the adios a lot of additional funding and now they're basically going back to the prior loans.

559
00:44:16,060 --> 00:44:23,340
More or less. But a more concern is can be the reduction across the board in a number of different

560
00:44:24,840 --> 00:44:28,800
programs within the Department of Commerce that they typically provide.

561
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:36,120
But, you know, we're going to have to stay tuned for that and see how the governor, uh, you know, what way he decides on the 19.

562
00:44:38,380 --> 00:44:58,780
That's a resources. The salmon recovery funding board has been a lot of another 25 million dollars for the next

563
00:44:58,780 --> 00:44:59,240
.

564
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:08,260
These bills still need signature from the governor, but Senate Bill 5390, increases the price of it

565
00:45:08,260 --> 00:45:15,160
to discover past from $30 to $45 per year, and it requires the RSU of the facility to facilitate

566
00:45:15,160 --> 00:45:21,380
the conversation on recreational funding at the WDFW, DNR, and state parks and provide a report to

567
00:45:21,380 --> 00:45:25,380
to state sure at $206 at a cost of $150,000.

568
00:45:26,980 --> 00:45:30,120
We have Senate Bill 558 free increases,

569
00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:32,500
fees on hunting, and fishing licenses.

570
00:45:33,720 --> 00:45:35,640
It took a precursory look into the bill.

571
00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,140
It looks like it's kind of across the world.

572
00:45:37,800 --> 00:45:42,120
I don't want to just don't let out there that that's been signed.

573
00:45:42,460 --> 00:45:44,280
Or it has been passed by the Senate,

574
00:45:44,660 --> 00:45:46,380
looking for the government signature.

575
00:45:46,380 --> 00:45:53,980
and then the last that is Senate Bill 2003 creates a required endorsement for

576
00:45:53,980 --> 00:46:01,740
Sam and Stilet fishing on the Columbia River. So more specifically,

577
00:46:04,060 --> 00:46:04,140
the

578
00:46:04,140 --> 00:46:10,120
cost-free endorsement is $50 for residents and non-residents, $6 for youth and seniors,

579
00:46:11,160 --> 00:46:15,300
and the Columbia River is defined as going from a line across between the

580
00:46:15,800 --> 00:46:22,140
Washington in Tom Point, Oregon, which is basically the west side, all we're able to achieve just the

581
00:46:22,140 --> 00:46:29,920
dam, which is these sides, so that will be cupped as all of us. And then last, the not least, I do have an

582
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:37,520
ask. This would be for, you know, I'm basically asking if we can proceed for with extending the clerical

583
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:43,520
administrative assistant, three within the office from going from three days to four days, a week.

584
00:46:45,500 --> 00:46:50,160
As we go from three days to four days week, that does not change the status of the employee.

585
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:53,720
As far as benefits or wages or anything like that.

586
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,460
So, it's basically going from three days week to four days week.

587
00:46:56,460 --> 00:46:58,540
It's already within this year's budget.

588
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,500
And those funds are paid for within the 209.

589
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,700
And the point out, so this doesn't touch the general fund at all.

590
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:11,660
And that total is going to be approximately 75,000 hours per rest of this year.

591
00:47:11,660 --> 00:47:17,220
those funds cannot point online, which is restricted use, and you can only use the point of

592
00:47:17,220 --> 00:47:22,600
nine funds for it for economic development, infrastructure projects, or staff wages.

593
00:47:24,660 --> 00:47:24,660
So,

594
00:47:25,180 --> 00:47:26,260
may it be a proceed.

595
00:47:28,520 --> 00:47:32,320
That's so quick. Clarification. You say three days to four days.

596
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:40,380
You said 24 hours to 32 hours? Yes. Not four events. Well, I just want to clarify,

597
00:47:40,380 --> 00:47:42,080
education of ours there.

598
00:47:42,260 --> 00:47:45,360
That's historically been five days a week position.

599
00:47:46,100 --> 00:47:46,220
Yeah.

600
00:47:46,220 --> 00:47:46,620
That.

601
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:48,200
The

602
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:57,040
work is there.

603
00:47:57,240 --> 00:47:58,220
I'm good with them.

604
00:47:59,100 --> 00:48:02,100
Well, that's where I'm going to work.

605
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,200
What would be the tasks?

606
00:48:05,460 --> 00:48:05,980
Well, the additional.

607
00:48:06,340 --> 00:48:09,340
So some of the issues that we had, we had

608
00:48:09,340 --> 00:48:14,120
got between the previous position being filled

609
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:16,080
and then the person is filling it right now.

610
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:24,820
So we weren't about, I would say, six, eight months, we did have something that was in there for a couple months and she moved on to another position across town.

611
00:48:25,580 --> 00:48:36,120
So really, those job, that job title within that position was being divided into three between me, Chelsea Keaton, that had belonged into that position.

612
00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:42,180
And so we were able to cover down, nothing fell off the table or anything, we're making sure things were getting done.

613
00:48:42,180 --> 00:49:02,020
But as the position is back in there, I look at those, you know, a simple thing, not the only thing, but a simple thing would be, for instance, the invoice that we get through the natural resources department, and the, and the economic development department, I see the clerical administrative assistant being able to do that work.

614
00:49:02,020 --> 00:49:06,900
And then allowing, and that's resource product coordinator in the economic and

615
00:49:06,900 --> 00:49:13,740
own specialist, actually try to grow some of our programs and doing higher

616
00:49:13,740 --> 00:49:17,780
level work that we actually paid them to do, as opposed to taking that work

617
00:49:17,780 --> 00:49:21,880
a little off of the clerical administrative assistance desk.

618
00:49:22,840 --> 00:49:26,320
Well, and I appreciate during that time that they picked those duties up to keep

619
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,120
you guys from following the park.

620
00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:35,360
For me, it's time to take those fat from them and give them to somebody who's appropriate to do those daily.

621
00:49:36,020 --> 00:49:36,040
Yeah.

622
00:49:36,300 --> 00:49:38,040
And it keeps those timely too.

623
00:49:38,320 --> 00:49:42,300
Not that they were behind, but I could see what a mix that would be.

624
00:49:43,100 --> 00:49:43,380
Yeah.

625
00:49:43,460 --> 00:49:49,360
So like another instance would be war appointments, the technical committee in the system review committee,

626
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:52,300
the lodging tax advisory committee.

627
00:49:52,820 --> 00:49:55,960
A lot of our appointments go through the clerical administrative assistant.

628
00:49:55,960 --> 00:50:05,040
Over last, I'd say, the last year since most of 2024, we, we, me, Charleston, team have kind of

629
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:05,880
dove into those.

630
00:50:05,920 --> 00:50:10,320
But I look at that, and I say, should we really be diving into some of these tasks that really

631
00:50:10,320 --> 00:50:15,680
should be going over to our clerical administrative assistants for focusing on these bigger

632
00:50:15,680 --> 00:50:16,380
ticket items?

633
00:50:17,020 --> 00:50:20,220
Good for me, as it did give you a cross-training for a little bit.

634
00:50:20,300 --> 00:50:20,960
It did.

635
00:50:21,940 --> 00:50:24,000
because I have to be done.

636
00:50:26,940 --> 00:50:28,100
Mr. Chair.

637
00:50:29,500 --> 00:50:30,560
Just a point of clarification.

638
00:50:31,700 --> 00:50:32,340
It's fact to work.

639
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:33,820
It was never was five days.

640
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:36,620
One day when we was always solid waste and

641
00:50:36,620 --> 00:50:38,120
Mackenzie's, it's some of those duties.

642
00:50:39,460 --> 00:50:41,440
So the part that was a personal resource and

643
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:45,100
economic development is fact that now you're approval would be

644
00:50:45,100 --> 00:50:46,800
back to where he historically has been.

645
00:50:47,700 --> 00:50:50,780
But it was never five days focused on

646
00:50:50,780 --> 00:50:58,420
that you resource your economic development, so this, yeah. So, in the benefits of the

647
00:50:58,420 --> 00:51:03,580
issue, we incur next year, you know, benefit cost this year, because employee decline benefits,

648
00:51:04,120 --> 00:51:09,540
but the position will qualify for benefits, and that will be next year, next year, next

649
00:51:09,540 --> 00:51:11,060
year, budget cost.

650
00:51:15,910 --> 00:51:16,170
So,

651
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:24,500
okay, okay, okay. Are there any questions in reverse to the, the

652
00:51:24,500 --> 00:51:27,940
that graph, that whole side graph, I'm in there.

653
00:51:28,040 --> 00:51:29,180
Think you're saying it's a draft,

654
00:51:29,900 --> 00:51:32,880
seems a lot of these, it's just a draft song.

655
00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:34,980
I don't know, I don't know, I don't know.

656
00:51:35,000 --> 00:51:37,400
Oh, here's my first picture, it doesn't just drop off.

657
00:51:37,700 --> 00:51:39,160
So, we made it easy way to do here.

658
00:51:39,200 --> 00:51:40,160
Yes, yes.

659
00:51:40,300 --> 00:51:40,780
Science.

660
00:51:41,460 --> 00:51:43,480
Okay, well, you guys have nothing else for me.

661
00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:44,460
Thank you.

662
00:51:44,700 --> 00:51:45,300
Thank you.

663
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:54,540
And we take 10 minutes, recess, twice.

664
00:51:55,420 --> 00:51:55,980
We do 15?

665
00:51:55,980 --> 00:51:58,980
Yes, let's do 15 of this.

666
00:51:59,780 --> 00:52:00,980
Break, yeah, hi.

667
00:52:01,900 --> 00:52:03,020
Yeah, that'd be crazy.

668
00:52:24,670 --> 00:52:26,490
Yeah, I think that's that.

669
00:52:27,630 --> 00:52:28,410
All right.

670
00:52:28,730 --> 00:52:32,110
It's 1036, we'll call them meeting back door.

671
00:52:32,630 --> 00:52:33,310
I'm going to have.

672
00:52:34,170 --> 00:52:34,750
Brasher.

673
00:52:35,630 --> 00:52:36,910
And honor here.

674
00:52:38,150 --> 00:52:41,930
To talk about our meeting from yesterday.

675
00:52:43,130 --> 00:52:44,250
Yeah, so we.

676
00:52:45,130 --> 00:52:54,050
And we had our finance committee meeting yesterday and we just do an update to the board.

677
00:52:54,750 --> 00:53:00,790
So that finance committee first actually exists in the treasurer the auditor and chairman of the board.

678
00:53:01,150 --> 00:53:05,110
So we'd like to update the whole board.

679
00:53:05,490 --> 00:53:12,650
So we are working on changing the finance committee to specifically discuss.

680
00:53:14,710 --> 00:53:20,690
Finally, it always has, but I mean, just specifically about quarterly finances.

681
00:53:21,730 --> 00:53:28,430
So we went through it's the first quarter, so there's really not it's kind of a very early

682
00:53:28,430 --> 00:53:31,410
on type of situation to the financials.

683
00:53:31,590 --> 00:53:35,330
So essentially we just talked about the expenses and the revenue.

684
00:53:36,950 --> 00:53:39,250
And so, do

685
00:53:41,870 --> 00:53:43,930
you want to go through the expense side

686
00:53:43,930 --> 00:53:45,350
and I can go through the realm of the side?

687
00:53:46,490 --> 00:53:49,090
But we just had a lot of good expenses as a whole

688
00:53:50,270 --> 00:53:55,290
and tried to narrow down what information was relevant,

689
00:53:56,070 --> 00:54:00,650
what the finance committee wants to see sort of settled

690
00:54:01,890 --> 00:54:05,730
on taking it, a global look at where expenditures are

691
00:54:05,730 --> 00:54:09,650
and then discussing any ones that may have may be of concern,

692
00:54:10,530 --> 00:54:11,730
somebody who is,

693
00:54:12,890 --> 00:54:17,410
so for the first order, we should be at about 25% of our expenditures

694
00:54:17,410 --> 00:54:21,430
that will be some skewed things like IT,

695
00:54:22,010 --> 00:54:24,850
paste for subscriptions at the beginning of the year.

696
00:54:24,970 --> 00:54:26,590
We pay for insurance,

697
00:54:26,850 --> 00:54:28,290
I don't know, other than the department,

698
00:54:28,890 --> 00:54:30,010
at the end of the year.

699
00:54:30,150 --> 00:54:32,750
So it'll be behind them and have a big hit

700
00:54:32,750 --> 00:54:34,310
at the end of the year.

701
00:54:34,310 --> 00:54:36,950
So there will be some of those outliers.

702
00:54:37,250 --> 00:54:41,350
But generally, you should be right at 25-ish per set.

703
00:54:41,550 --> 00:54:45,230
Some looking at ones that aren't there, either because they're

704
00:54:45,230 --> 00:54:48,210
over and via that over, or they're significantly

705
00:54:48,210 --> 00:54:51,410
under and why are they significantly under,

706
00:54:51,530 --> 00:54:56,070
because that may indicate that we're over budgeting, or stuff.

707
00:54:56,410 --> 00:54:59,110
So looking at some of those things that don't basically

708
00:54:59,110 --> 00:55:01,510
track where they'd expect them to be.

709
00:55:01,510 --> 00:55:13,230
And so I had to broaden the general fund departments and so we kind of look through some of those and everything up here to be pretty much right at the 25% piece as far as we were looking at.

710
00:55:14,110 --> 00:55:22,510
And then I brought some revenue numbers and I brought the five revenue numbers but I'm really kind of focused on this time.

711
00:55:22,510 --> 00:55:29,330
which is property taxes, sales, tax, reach, investment interest in the landfill, those go to

712
00:55:29,330 --> 00:55:35,270
multiple different funds, but those are the huge portion of the dollars that we bring in to the

713
00:55:35,270 --> 00:55:39,630
different piece. So when I looked at property taxes, I was looking at the road and the general

714
00:55:39,630 --> 00:55:46,070
fund property taxes because we do get taxes in both. It was not very exciting because it's in Q1.

715
00:55:46,150 --> 00:55:50,690
Q1 ends in March. We don't have very many property taxes. We do most of our tax collection

716
00:55:50,690 --> 00:55:58,390
in April and May, so it will be a different picture when we look at this in July.

717
00:55:59,310 --> 00:56:02,530
So right now, we looked at the budgeted numbers.

718
00:56:02,730 --> 00:56:11,590
We have $5.7 million of property tax for budgeted for this coming year for the general fund

719
00:56:11,590 --> 00:56:16,450
and we have $5.6 million budgeted for the road fund.

720
00:56:17,910 --> 00:56:20,190
So we then talked about sales tax.

721
00:56:21,130 --> 00:56:26,110
We are at about 27% of our budget of 3.6 million.

722
00:56:26,290 --> 00:56:30,030
So that was a nice number to see where we're at.

723
00:56:31,490 --> 00:56:35,530
And we talked about rates not a huge driver.

724
00:56:35,770 --> 00:56:38,890
The one thing that is that was redrawed to the capital budget.

725
00:56:39,890 --> 00:56:42,170
So all the read dollars go into fund 303.

726
00:56:42,290 --> 00:56:44,270
So I did stick it on my little sheet here.

727
00:56:44,270 --> 00:56:49,070
will look at this, this is the year goes on. There's also, if there's other numbers that you

728
00:56:49,070 --> 00:56:53,370
know, to try to get to, and maybe a top five to ten that we can look at, you know, but there's

729
00:56:53,370 --> 00:57:00,170
a lot of pieces, but if you add those up, those were really going to go a long way. So we're at 21% on

730
00:57:00,170 --> 00:57:05,910
re, which is probably, it's hard to tell, but again, it's hard to get excited about three months

731
00:57:05,910 --> 00:57:11,010
of data when you're trying to look at the longer period and where housing sales are and different

732
00:57:11,010 --> 00:57:19,510
things like that. So interest investment interest revenue. We did budget 1.4 million. I think

733
00:57:19,510 --> 00:57:25,450
it's a number. We're all just a tissue nervous with. But so far we looked good. We're at 26%

734
00:57:25,450 --> 00:57:32,390
to that number through the first, first three months. And then the landfill, the landfill only

735
00:57:32,390 --> 00:57:37,490
includes quarter one payment. So that would be the payment we gotten January, which would be

736
00:57:37,490 --> 00:57:46,110
the activity in December and so that was at 26%. I did look at because we did get the second payment

737
00:57:46,110 --> 00:57:51,310
which came in April and so when I added that one in just out of curiosity because I did

738
00:57:51,310 --> 00:57:58,610
give everybody we were at 49.4% of our budget so the length is so far through the first two payments

739
00:57:58,610 --> 00:58:03,610
seems to be tracking to the 8.7 million that we have budgeted.

740
00:58:04,470 --> 00:58:07,390
Um, these questions on any of those topics.

741
00:58:07,890 --> 00:58:11,870
No, I, I appreciate it because I went through for an adventure.

742
00:58:13,190 --> 00:58:17,350
I had a lot of the bills that I didn't get the read that I grabbed the others.

743
00:58:17,350 --> 00:58:23,830
The other thing we talked about with regard to revenue is paying attention to where we budgeted things

744
00:58:23,830 --> 00:58:25,990
because we made some adjustments at the end

745
00:58:25,990 --> 00:58:27,350
to have a balanced budget,

746
00:58:27,870 --> 00:58:30,330
where we actually went above numbers

747
00:58:30,330 --> 00:58:33,650
that we were comfortable with sales tax,

748
00:58:33,730 --> 00:58:37,410
was one of those, the landfill was one of those.

749
00:58:38,350 --> 00:58:42,190
So we really need to be making that metric

750
00:58:42,190 --> 00:58:45,810
because it's a larger delta if we don't make that metric

751
00:58:45,810 --> 00:58:48,610
because we knew we were kind of inflating those numbers.

752
00:58:49,210 --> 00:58:51,610
And I think the other one is investment interest was part of that.

753
00:58:51,610 --> 00:58:56,670
So, you know, as the, if the economy, if interest rates do go down, our investment interest

754
00:58:56,670 --> 00:58:57,690
is going to go down.

755
00:58:57,690 --> 00:59:00,870
So that's not a number that may be recurring for 10 years in a row.

756
00:59:01,570 --> 00:59:04,610
We, you know, that we'll have to kind of see how that all plays out.

757
00:59:05,030 --> 00:59:12,070
As normally, it wasn't it for subtle middle budgets, we're going to need to come up.

758
00:59:12,170 --> 00:59:16,990
The income was that these numbers came in a little higher.

759
00:59:16,990 --> 00:59:21,510
I think they've done that, they use that in themselves. That's what Jen would do, yes.

760
00:59:22,890 --> 00:59:29,380
I don't talk about that. Tell us when we first started talking about the budgets.

761
00:59:30,020 --> 00:59:32,440
Last year when we first started talking about the budgets,

762
00:59:33,500 --> 00:59:37,880
I think it had gone way far on the lower side.

763
00:59:38,060 --> 00:59:41,420
And then we brought it back, so I'm not too worried about that.

764
00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:42,500
I think it's tracking.

765
00:59:42,500 --> 00:59:51,260
Yeah, I think I mean, I think that was one of the things we looked at the land filled dollars from like 1998 and they seemed to trend that, you know,

766
00:59:52,000 --> 00:59:55,400
eight, nine million, and so I think, you know, they point seven, it's not.

767
00:59:55,400 --> 00:59:59,960
I mean, it still is a testament all the way around as the whole budget is. So it's just a map.

768
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:04,340
We're trying to track those and see where we're going to be at.

769
01:00:04,880 --> 01:00:07,120
You came out with a graph, tracking.

770
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:12,980
Yeah, I just grabbed like a landfill and I will send the, I just, if it's not very pretty.

771
01:00:13,180 --> 01:00:14,360
So I wasn't going to hand it out.

772
01:00:14,620 --> 01:00:16,140
Okay, right, the second, but yeah.

773
01:00:16,580 --> 01:00:19,940
So I was going to come next to me because I was going to be able to put the little charts in there.

774
01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:20,800
We're needed to go.

775
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:22,060
But I will send you.

776
01:00:22,100 --> 01:00:24,680
I will send the board a graph of the landfill.

777
01:00:25,640 --> 01:00:31,500
I think sometimes we over budgeted what the main fill was producing, it's been pretty consistent

778
01:00:31,500 --> 01:00:35,680
for a while and I think we got a little aggressive thinking, it was going to solve some

779
01:00:35,680 --> 01:00:40,140
of our problems and it wasn't, we just wanted to just, you know, solve it.

780
01:00:40,180 --> 01:00:44,760
I think for the last three or so years we've done a good job of budgeting our real number.

781
01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:48,580
And then if it comes in great, we can use some of that money to, again, do a supplemental

782
01:00:48,580 --> 01:00:52,800
that need be or take care of things that are over that we can arise because we're going

783
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:59,720
expenses that are going to come in over what we think they might be in the other questions on that?

784
01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:03,380
No, I'm thinking investments would be your biggestest one right now.

785
01:01:03,820 --> 01:01:08,860
Yeah, that's so far they sell. They tell this straight. So we'll see kind of where we stand,

786
01:01:09,080 --> 01:01:14,120
but I think we're okay through for a bit. We'll see how that year ends. Yes sir.

787
01:01:14,540 --> 01:01:20,400
Do you have any verify what comes in from the landfill? Do you guys feel good about it?

788
01:01:20,400 --> 01:01:23,400
they'll trust them there, but I trust that I bought it.

789
01:01:25,580 --> 01:01:26,380
That's all.

790
01:01:27,680 --> 01:01:28,720
I saw that for all.

791
01:01:28,800 --> 01:01:33,940
I mean, I think that we get the spreadsheets that they provide to when they do it.

792
01:01:33,980 --> 01:01:35,560
When we look at them, I mean,

793
01:01:35,680 --> 01:01:39,720
I don't have a stop person that's counting the containers that are driving up the hill.

794
01:01:40,060 --> 01:01:41,300
So I don't have that.

795
01:01:41,300 --> 01:01:44,200
I think it's more of a feel of whether it seems to be working.

796
01:01:44,520 --> 01:01:45,480
I don't know that there's.

797
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:53,500
And I don't read public tracks everything by cargo container work comes from its very detailed

798
01:01:53,500 --> 01:01:53,960
again.

799
01:01:54,500 --> 01:02:00,480
But we don't count the Joe doesn't count the containers coming in there, and what's in

800
01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:04,420
them different kinds of ways, because there's lots of different kinds of ways to go in there,

801
01:02:04,500 --> 01:02:07,000
and we're paying different amounts for the different kinds of ways.

802
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:13,500
So there would be hard for us to do a deep dive, I think, to other than the report we get,

803
01:02:13,500 --> 01:02:16,360
which is, I don't know, if you've seen it, it's very detailed, that's great sheep.

804
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:22,700
Well, we have this discussion before a year or so ago, when there's questions about that,

805
01:02:22,800 --> 01:02:28,580
and they actually came in and had discussions about their oversight and their accountability,

806
01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:33,860
and their accounting, and ours track pretty well with what they have to report to the government,

807
01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:39,800
everybody else. So, it was a concoction, it was fairly easy to put it all together.

808
01:02:41,040 --> 01:02:43,840
They don't, they have oversight to psychate for videos.

809
01:02:44,260 --> 01:02:47,780
Yeah, I just know everything comes in, gets way in, wait a second.

810
01:02:47,780 --> 01:02:49,280
Oracle, it's not.

811
01:02:49,960 --> 01:02:54,770
Yeah, whether it, or it's that.

812
01:02:55,670 --> 01:02:58,130
The other element that we spent to pretty good talk

813
01:02:58,130 --> 01:03:01,570
at the time talking about yesterday was sales tax.

814
01:03:01,950 --> 01:03:03,970
So the sales tax number, as I said,

815
01:03:04,310 --> 01:03:09,890
we are on track again, remember what it is when you are at 980,

816
01:03:09,890 --> 01:03:12,370
and through the first three months in the year.

817
01:03:13,990 --> 01:03:17,570
We didn't get Lundhill, did their renewable energy credit,

818
01:03:18,170 --> 01:03:20,130
so we did see that come through.

819
01:03:20,910 --> 01:03:24,670
So we are going to have to return about $973,000

820
01:03:24,670 --> 01:03:28,370
worth of sales tax that we received

821
01:03:28,850 --> 01:03:32,030
that we will return back to the state so that they will be able to

822
01:03:32,030 --> 01:03:34,630
and actually the transactions already happened

823
01:03:34,630 --> 01:03:36,670
because they needed it off of some of our numbers.

824
01:03:37,670 --> 01:03:46,710
So, I wanted to make sure that the board was aware that's the money that we kind of reserved it.

825
01:03:46,710 --> 01:03:52,790
We put it into a fund and we try to go through the sales tax information and look and see what's coming in from renewable energy projects.

826
01:03:53,410 --> 01:03:59,670
And we put that off to the side so that when the money, when we have to pay the money back, we do not.

827
01:04:00,370 --> 01:04:07,230
It does not hit our current expense buckets, so we have that, I don't want to say reserved,

828
01:04:07,650 --> 01:04:11,130
but kind of we're planning on then having to give that money back.

829
01:04:11,750 --> 01:04:18,510
So I haven't been able to confirm with them whether they did a 50% a 75% or a 100% piece

830
01:04:18,510 --> 01:04:22,690
on working with the DOR on that, but that did come through.

831
01:04:23,030 --> 01:04:24,910
So I think that's something to note.

832
01:04:24,910 --> 01:04:35,430
that is all part of RCW E2.08.962.

833
01:04:35,790 --> 01:04:39,190
Kudos to Greg, though, not all counties that take the war side

834
01:04:39,190 --> 01:04:41,010
for money and side, that's a big outing.

835
01:04:41,010 --> 01:04:42,090
I appreciate that.

836
01:04:42,290 --> 01:04:43,610
It's been did that way for a while.

837
01:04:43,790 --> 01:04:46,090
We've been kind of, we've had to pay other ones back.

838
01:04:46,410 --> 01:04:48,370
So that we do, it's a good, I try to,

839
01:04:48,370 --> 01:04:50,870
I try to protect that because it is helpful

840
01:04:50,870 --> 01:04:53,010
because I don't other counties that had to pay it out

841
01:04:53,010 --> 01:04:54,890
the current expense and it was pretty painful.

842
01:04:55,690 --> 01:04:59,850
But you'll have a pre-feron number, yes.

843
01:05:00,870 --> 01:05:04,750
So, we could take this once again to our representatives

844
01:05:04,750 --> 01:05:09,050
and the legislature that this is what green projects

845
01:05:09,570 --> 01:05:13,470
are costing us from the sales tax side that we're not receiving.

846
01:05:14,390 --> 01:05:16,570
And I think that is a piece of the pie.

847
01:05:16,650 --> 01:05:18,370
When you get down to, like, for example,

848
01:05:18,510 --> 01:05:21,910
House Bill, 1960, they went through the try to deal with some other

849
01:05:21,910 --> 01:05:26,650
pieces of it. There are multiple elements of these projects being sighted in our area.

850
01:05:27,290 --> 01:05:32,550
And so we're, you know, it's like we have a problem here. We also have a problem here with sales tax.

851
01:05:33,210 --> 01:05:35,830
That's a big amount of money.

852
01:05:36,690 --> 01:05:36,710
Yeah.

853
01:05:37,450 --> 01:05:41,650
So that also works in the same principle when they repower.

854
01:05:42,950 --> 01:05:44,510
I'll say a site.

855
01:05:44,610 --> 01:05:46,510
I believe a new site.

856
01:05:46,810 --> 01:05:50,910
A new site for sure. I believe the repowering qualifies as well.

857
01:05:53,330 --> 01:05:58,630
I think the word I will be honest with you as a county and we're going to have a treasurer's

858
01:05:58,630 --> 01:06:04,550
association meeting for the Southeast region, which will be a click-it-tad yacamon, been

859
01:06:04,550 --> 01:06:10,250
Franklin, that crew, where they're actually citing these projects, I think one term we need

860
01:06:10,250 --> 01:06:14,550
to be very careful, they get thrown out round a lot in the, in the, in the, a new

861
01:06:14,550 --> 01:06:19,950
energy is this repower word because a lot of things want to catch up, repower, there's

862
01:06:19,950 --> 01:06:26,090
really no good definition of repower, you know, I think the originally in the

863
01:06:26,090 --> 01:06:31,090
House of the 1960 they wanted to say, oh, if they repower at 30% or greater, what

864
01:06:31,090 --> 01:06:37,730
is that, what what we're exactly is that point and I think the worth repower is just a

865
01:06:37,730 --> 01:06:41,990
part where it's in a lot of language and I just don't know that we know exactly what we

866
01:06:41,990 --> 01:06:46,830
need to say if they're changing their names like, right, or if they're going to produce

867
01:06:46,830 --> 01:06:50,910
because, like, for example, we have some, you know, they're going to change up and

868
01:06:50,910 --> 01:06:55,030
the cells and the blades or they're going to do different things. And, you know,

869
01:06:55,170 --> 01:07:00,590
what a value, what they're saying. Yeah. So, I just think that's one thing. It's not necessarily

870
01:07:00,590 --> 01:07:04,190
a county that could affect county thing. It's more of a state thing because everybody wants to

871
01:07:04,190 --> 01:07:10,350
throw, oh, when we repowered. So, for example, the last version of that health of the 1960 was,

872
01:07:10,550 --> 01:07:14,850
they were not going, they were going to leave all the things alone. And they were only going to

873
01:07:14,850 --> 01:07:18,990
new projects we're going to pay exercise tax. But then they said, oh, but if they

874
01:07:18,990 --> 01:07:23,070
re-power, then they're going to convert from one to the other. Well, where is

875
01:07:23,070 --> 01:07:26,870
what's the re-power? What are it does that mean that they're going to do this? And then

876
01:07:26,870 --> 01:07:30,550
are we going to have a battle with the developers? And I'm not trying to say that there's a

877
01:07:30,550 --> 01:07:36,030
right or a wrong. It just would be nice to have very clear and concise items as best as we

878
01:07:36,030 --> 01:07:44,650
can into the RCWs, but, yes, you're correct, 973,000 dollars.

879
01:07:44,750 --> 01:07:50,170
If you have something, if the state wants to get their sales tax away, so be it.

880
01:07:50,390 --> 01:07:51,670
Because they want to push the mix.

881
01:07:52,090 --> 01:07:55,930
But why over the counties have positive each?

882
01:07:56,370 --> 01:07:57,850
Just, more importantly.

883
01:07:58,310 --> 01:08:01,370
But now we're going to do another, or you will have to do another thing.

884
01:08:01,650 --> 01:08:03,050
I think that's the true number.

885
01:08:03,050 --> 01:08:05,390
That's okay until that I haven't looked at it.

886
01:08:05,890 --> 01:08:09,130
We can be, this is power of the vaccine.

887
01:08:10,250 --> 01:08:11,450
Just one question.

888
01:08:12,230 --> 01:08:13,570
And you said you're not clear on the weather,

889
01:08:13,830 --> 01:08:14,750
it's 2550.

890
01:08:14,970 --> 01:08:17,950
No, the numbers are 57,500.

891
01:08:18,510 --> 01:08:22,430
So if you go to the RCW that it basically says

892
01:08:22,430 --> 01:08:24,750
that you'll get 50% back if you feel

893
01:08:24,750 --> 01:08:29,870
a bit working go through and it's all in RCW 82, 08,062.

894
01:08:30,350 --> 01:08:32,310
Then you'll get 75% back

895
01:08:32,310 --> 01:08:38,530
If the L&I does some things with prevailing wage and there's a whole bunch of other sections to get to that level.

896
01:08:38,910 --> 01:08:47,290
And then there's another set of requirements with labor and industries and so on and so forth to get the 100% refund.

897
01:08:47,630 --> 01:08:56,530
So I have not asked, I'm working with the Department of Revenue to understand a little bit more of the audit process.

898
01:08:56,530 --> 01:09:06,710
And again, it's a new person, so we have had these, we dealt with this not when the landfill did that.

899
01:09:06,830 --> 01:09:11,270
We had to pay back some money for that project because there was sales tax paid on that.

900
01:09:11,690 --> 01:09:16,830
So it's been a different person from that to today at the ARP.

901
01:09:16,830 --> 01:09:18,790
I know we're quite a bit tired,

902
01:09:19,270 --> 01:09:21,290
tied to our apprenticeships and how much you use

903
01:09:21,290 --> 01:09:23,050
our apprenticeships,

904
01:09:25,750 --> 01:09:25,750
so,

905
01:09:26,410 --> 01:09:30,390
but it's just when the state dictates to the county

906
01:09:31,290 --> 01:09:33,970
of our financial restraints,

907
01:09:38,420 --> 01:09:38,440
right?

908
01:09:38,480 --> 01:09:39,400
We're all in a different place.

909
01:09:39,500 --> 01:09:40,780
Now we have a number, but you'd say,

910
01:09:41,080 --> 01:09:43,940
this is just one of these kind of projects costs.

911
01:09:49,660 --> 01:09:51,600
We eat any questions on that,

912
01:09:51,620 --> 01:09:52,340
any further ones.

913
01:09:52,620 --> 01:09:55,240
And that just under a million dollars,

914
01:09:55,440 --> 01:09:56,440
that was for 2024.

915
01:09:56,440 --> 01:10:05,860
for. No, it went back to 20, either late 22 or early 23. I think it was from the mouth

916
01:10:05,860 --> 01:10:10,020
that period. Yeah, when they end the, because like, I mean, you know, if it's it's sales

917
01:10:10,020 --> 01:10:16,820
tax over the life of the, but I have them building the project. Yeah. Then I don't remember. I know

918
01:10:16,820 --> 01:10:21,980
it was, I, I'm pretty sure it was in the 22, but I cannot remember. I know for sure there was 23

919
01:10:21,980 --> 01:10:23,220
numbers in there.

920
01:10:31,020 --> 01:10:38,080
We also talked about legislation in regards to other pieces and parts that,

921
01:10:39,300 --> 01:10:43,620
you know, where things are coming and it sounds like the pot is going to come in a couple of weeks

922
01:10:43,620 --> 01:10:48,560
or something. I was asking the chair and I was just because I wanted to listen as to what things

923
01:10:48,560 --> 01:10:55,140
kind of the day after the governor signs or be kind of. Yeah, just to kind of, and I think everybody's

924
01:10:55,140 --> 01:10:59,580
the same boat trying to understand what we're the best settled in, you know, if there's an

925
01:10:59,580 --> 01:11:04,180
intensification to crop. I'm only interested really in the property tax, part or you know,

926
01:11:04,300 --> 01:11:08,420
how that's going to impact some of those things, but I'm sure there's some interesting legislation.

927
01:11:09,380 --> 01:11:13,660
So, but one that we talked about a little bit was just in the schools and the increase or decrease

928
01:11:13,660 --> 01:11:20,320
to their levy amounts, or to their budgets, I guess. But that was about it.

929
01:11:24,090 --> 01:11:29,330
One thing we did talk a little about is on the vehicle,

930
01:11:30,330 --> 01:11:32,230
find that some people's budgets.

931
01:11:32,630 --> 01:11:34,610
Is it the VR or not, though?

932
01:11:34,810 --> 01:11:38,750
VR and arts, or whether, like Americans or other,

933
01:11:38,750 --> 01:11:40,570
right, and we transferred year-end.

934
01:11:41,090 --> 01:11:44,690
The question is, should we be transferring that more up front?

935
01:11:45,370 --> 01:11:48,670
So people don't feel that about this money in their budget,

936
01:11:48,670 --> 01:11:52,950
and they're great on the budget because the number is all good, and then that is faster.

937
01:11:54,830 --> 01:12:00,690
Major budget is probably doesn't manage much, but smaller budgets is probably more for the impact.

938
01:12:02,190 --> 01:12:07,470
So there was just some discussion we had come with. So every department that has it be what are

939
01:12:07,470 --> 01:12:15,250
more vehicles sets aside money for the VR and our fund and we transfer it out from their departmental

940
01:12:15,250 --> 01:12:22,750
into the VRR fund and to believe we do that at the end of the year. So the discussion was about

941
01:12:22,750 --> 01:12:30,210
moving now and other transfers as well to the front of the year to make sure that we're really sort

942
01:12:30,210 --> 01:12:38,750
of truing up our activity to well be budgeted in some cases and just, you know, I'm going to

943
01:12:38,750 --> 01:12:44,890
to take care of it, so it doesn't, but it gets sitting out there available for spending.

944
01:12:46,430 --> 01:12:52,090
So we're just trying to make it to save, but it sounds like it's probably better

945
01:12:52,090 --> 01:12:56,910
to do earlier in the year or later in the year. So the part of us don't have a false

946
01:12:58,130 --> 01:13:05,150
because especially when we're looking at percentages of expenses, you know, about 50% or 75%,

947
01:13:06,090 --> 01:13:11,710
that there's not some public noise at home, you know, third quarter they're at 70%

948
01:13:11,710 --> 01:13:16,410
when they should be, you know, if they're at 75. Then this money's still set in here and

949
01:13:16,410 --> 01:13:17,430
then all of that gets smooth.

950
01:13:19,980 --> 01:13:22,300
Just kind of leads into a couple of the things that we're going into

951
01:13:22,300 --> 01:13:27,940
budget. One setting aside money potentially for different place A vehicle because we know

952
01:13:27,940 --> 01:13:32,140
the insurance doesn't cover, we totally vehicle and then there's discussion about setting

953
01:13:32,140 --> 01:13:36,760
money aside potentially for retirement, typically at least one of their

954
01:13:36,760 --> 01:13:45,060
retirement in the county, putting money aside somewhere to. So, yes, and the problem.

955
01:13:45,380 --> 01:13:50,900
Yeah, retirees, especially long term. Yeah, well, he's rich.

956
01:13:54,480 --> 01:13:56,560
Yeah, I think that's most

957
01:13:57,800 --> 01:14:04,220
and as we prepare at the end of report, we will have data on what that looks like as

958
01:14:06,180 --> 01:14:11,260
cashouts and compensated absences. We have some of that data now in the state of honor. It's

959
01:14:11,260 --> 01:14:17,780
required to be able to warrant detailed in that calculation this year or so. It is something we

960
01:14:17,780 --> 01:14:26,820
should discuss at such a time. So, so is that sickly vacation and contact as liabilities and

961
01:14:30,500 --> 01:14:30,940
the new

962
01:14:30,940 --> 01:14:37,360
calculation requires us to calculate the use value to that we have to do this formula that says

963
01:14:37,360 --> 01:14:41,200
can you take an average employee in these, this would be sick days, and this would be vacation

964
01:14:41,200 --> 01:14:46,300
days, because it's a compensated absence, or you're not getting the value of the employee

965
01:14:46,300 --> 01:14:53,220
working if they're out of sick or on vacation, so that's they want this more extended

966
01:14:54,180 --> 01:14:59,920
population of what that looks like. And also, potentially, you know, 70.

967
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:05,220
That's not sicker on vacation, particularly in departments like the sheriff's. Yeah, there's so many

968
01:15:05,220 --> 01:15:12,360
else that's kind of something where it's a 24-7, and a little more, you know, critical.

969
01:15:12,680 --> 01:15:14,800
And it's a big deal that somebody doesn't pick up the phone.

970
01:15:14,900 --> 01:15:24,260
I don't see me not so much in my office that what is, what is the real cost of somebody being out sicker on vacation?

971
01:15:24,840 --> 01:15:28,540
Because now you've got a overtime or whatever.

972
01:15:28,540 --> 01:15:33,980
change if we went to the different great which the name we went to the change when you still have

973
01:15:33,980 --> 01:15:38,340
to do the calculation on a key deal versus yeah the key one yes yeah

974
01:15:41,190 --> 01:15:42,710
any compensated absence

975
01:15:52,980 --> 01:16:00,360
no I appreciate you coming in and I have had some conversations with Heather and I think we

976
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:04,220
when we were looking at since we're in Lui,

977
01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:05,900
that we set aside money,

978
01:16:06,460 --> 01:16:09,940
after Jan left, perhaps out of the site,

979
01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:10,880
though there's something like that,

980
01:16:10,920 --> 01:16:14,980
bringing her in for the next month or maybe even two months.

981
01:16:18,080 --> 01:16:19,200
So, yeah, so with Heather,

982
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,720
he used her to help Heather on the supplement.

983
01:16:23,460 --> 01:16:25,320
Yeah, 10 hours, I think.

984
01:16:25,640 --> 01:16:25,900
Go ahead.

985
01:16:27,600 --> 01:16:31,140
Other time, Kurt, he was 9.56, but I don't know.

986
01:16:31,720 --> 01:16:40,480
Well, as well as when a new person arrives, showing them where everything's at, and it's

987
01:16:40,480 --> 01:16:45,620
fine how she did it. I mean, no person may want to do it different. Which is fine. We

988
01:16:45,620 --> 01:16:52,580
may want to see it something different. But at least show where the stuff's at was the intent.

989
01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:56,340
I think that allowed before the start date, so with that

990
01:17:01,170 --> 01:17:02,170
allowed. Yeah, I didn't even think

991
01:17:02,170 --> 01:17:04,890
No, no, no, all of you.

992
01:17:05,310 --> 01:17:07,130
But if you're wanting to need this information,

993
01:17:07,410 --> 01:17:08,930
actually I was going to talk about it today,

994
01:17:09,410 --> 01:17:11,670
kind of, especially on the revenue numbers,

995
01:17:11,970 --> 01:17:12,970
you know, the expense, nothing.

996
01:17:13,790 --> 01:17:14,810
Out of whack.

997
01:17:15,510 --> 01:17:17,210
But it's first quarter, you know.

998
01:17:19,270 --> 01:17:21,350
But I appreciate you grabbing these numbers,

999
01:17:21,510 --> 01:17:23,590
because that's what I had worked on mine.

1000
01:17:24,210 --> 01:17:25,570
That was the top.

1001
01:17:26,470 --> 01:17:27,730
Or I didn't have to read.

1002
01:17:27,990 --> 01:17:29,850
But I had the other, those are important.

1003
01:17:29,850 --> 01:17:59,710
And I understand sales tax is a little more difficult because you just closed that, you know, but it's like, okay, where are we versus working budget and, you know, you hear people come in while you're budget's bleeding them like that, but all apparently I'm not understand it because I want to see you warm around now that, you know, and I think your brother to have to set up, you know, when we get another vote, so I think Q2 will be a little bit more.

1004
01:18:00,770 --> 01:18:04,530
interesting to be able to look and take the same pieces and look at the same information

1005
01:18:04,530 --> 01:18:08,510
and go, okay, we're going to have obviously six months of activity of things, and then

1006
01:18:08,510 --> 01:18:11,070
we're going to start to see where things are added to hopefully.

1007
01:18:11,410 --> 01:18:15,310
The other pieces, we have more time to adjust right now, right?

1008
01:18:15,490 --> 01:18:20,510
So if you look at the numbers, you could change, trajectory, things are really out of whack.

1009
01:18:20,850 --> 01:18:25,750
The closer we get to the end of the year, the less time there is to change.

1010
01:18:26,370 --> 01:18:33,930
Now, if I would ever code in, I would have a couple of men to break together yesterday's.

1011
01:18:33,930 --> 01:18:35,110
I thought it was very perfect.

1012
01:18:36,050 --> 01:18:40,650
Me, that's kind of what I want to look at, look at a high level.

1013
01:18:40,970 --> 01:18:42,330
How's everybody doing together?

1014
01:18:42,550 --> 01:18:42,950
Switch.

1015
01:18:44,230 --> 01:18:45,390
And revving, switched.

1016
01:18:46,010 --> 01:18:47,710
And then if we see something a little off,

1017
01:18:47,870 --> 01:18:50,870
then we go look at individual different departments.

1018
01:18:51,890 --> 01:18:53,630
And even just look at the parts yesterday.

1019
01:18:53,630 --> 01:18:58,510
It was like, oh, I didn't realize some of this.

1020
01:18:59,190 --> 01:19:00,090
It was good.

1021
01:19:00,490 --> 01:19:01,790
So thank you.

1022
01:19:01,910 --> 01:19:04,450
No, I appreciate hearing from the people that

1023
01:19:04,450 --> 01:19:07,010
had read it in a rather than set position

1024
01:19:07,010 --> 01:19:09,290
in those statements that get out there

1025
01:19:09,290 --> 01:19:11,870
and then things start snowballing.

1026
01:19:12,130 --> 01:19:13,590
So I appreciate the updates.

1027
01:19:13,970 --> 01:19:14,890
I think it helps the public.

1028
01:19:19,770 --> 01:19:21,450
Oh, my goodness, this guy is not falling.

1029
01:19:23,310 --> 01:19:25,830
No, it's, it may be.

1030
01:19:29,610 --> 01:19:43,830
It was good for me because I sent through the process last year and I didn't realize that we pumped up some of these numbers at the end.

1031
01:19:43,830 --> 01:19:52,950
You know, like said, they're a little more conservative, uh, what it is, what it is,

1032
01:19:53,370 --> 01:19:54,930
and we just need to pay attention to it.

1033
01:19:55,750 --> 01:19:59,830
And at the end of the year, what that means, you know, like you said, you rolled

1034
01:19:59,830 --> 01:20:05,070
3 million carry over the last year and went over to lunch, 25.

1035
01:20:06,030 --> 01:20:07,150
Okay, that's great.

1036
01:20:07,210 --> 01:20:08,470
Find after supplements.

1037
01:20:09,650 --> 01:20:12,210
And supplements may be, what happened?

1038
01:20:12,210 --> 01:20:17,970
a lot tighter than what you wish you are less than wanting, but you know, 25, but she

1039
01:20:17,970 --> 01:20:19,210
preferred not to.

1040
01:20:22,910 --> 01:20:24,590
And for the public, what is 125?

1041
01:20:25,650 --> 01:20:26,590
Can you believe we sort of.

1042
01:20:27,790 --> 01:20:28,570
Oh, my apologies.

1043
01:20:31,350 --> 01:20:31,410
Everything.

1044
01:20:31,750 --> 01:20:31,970
Everything.

1045
01:20:32,530 --> 01:20:32,590
Thank you.

1046
01:20:32,790 --> 01:20:35,770
Thank you.

1047
01:20:36,570 --> 01:20:36,810
Thank you.

1048
01:20:39,230 --> 01:20:40,310
No, that's good.

1049
01:20:41,210 --> 01:20:42,370
Well, thank you very much.

1050
01:20:44,730 --> 01:20:45,330
No.

1051
01:20:50,010 --> 01:20:59,690
I was going to bring this up to David and then as the board, what would you like to sing you

1052
01:20:59,690 --> 01:21:05,550
when we have not going to need these one of it? Sure, great. It sends out and then it sends out

1053
01:21:05,550 --> 01:21:10,730
that they kind of handed out. So you kind of see the same thing. Because I want to see the

1054
01:21:10,730 --> 01:21:17,470
to do the fashion of revenue, you know, a silver, all the day we got it now. We didn't

1055
01:21:17,470 --> 01:21:22,810
dive down to like, camera action steps. That would probably turn 50,000

1056
01:21:22,810 --> 01:21:28,390
poor. We didn't dive right into that. Say, does that online or not? I want you to do more

1057
01:21:28,390 --> 01:21:33,150
deep dives from off the little bit. Yeah, it's something that it does on season and when the

1058
01:21:33,150 --> 01:21:38,590
state's getting money about us. Yeah. And so I'm in the lobby to say that with a great book

1059
01:21:41,650 --> 01:21:47,610
Yeah, I'm happy we're having a lot to see how you give it to you.

1060
01:21:47,810 --> 01:21:48,430
No, I'm happy.

1061
01:21:48,430 --> 01:21:49,210
Here's my level.

1062
01:21:49,490 --> 01:21:52,710
That's what you want to see, and then you want to dive into each other.

1063
01:21:52,830 --> 01:21:53,970
We'll be starting the budget.

1064
01:21:54,130 --> 01:21:55,550
So you'll see not close.

1065
01:21:56,650 --> 01:21:57,590
Then, you know,

1066
01:21:59,350 --> 01:22:01,090
but anyhow, that helps me.

1067
01:22:01,510 --> 01:22:02,510
I'm a paper person.

1068
01:22:02,710 --> 01:22:05,230
So I know it is or I can go back to it.

1069
01:22:05,650 --> 01:22:07,770
I always work on lettuce.

1070
01:22:07,770 --> 01:22:11,550
So that's where it's, no, all right, budget's.

1071
01:22:11,590 --> 01:22:13,850
Let's start with high dollar items

1072
01:22:13,850 --> 01:22:15,670
and then you get down one of the details.

1073
01:22:15,670 --> 01:22:17,010
Yeah, you go down.

1074
01:22:19,190 --> 01:22:21,570
Oh, yeah, yeah, for that guy at the time.

1075
01:22:22,470 --> 01:22:26,430
Well, it was good for me.

1076
01:22:26,510 --> 01:22:28,790
Because I guess I didn't look at it.

1077
01:22:29,590 --> 01:22:34,190
That close on what the exact budget number is for.

1078
01:22:35,690 --> 01:22:37,190
So all right.

1079
01:22:37,190 --> 01:22:41,430
We got anything else the board has?

1080
01:22:41,470 --> 01:22:44,960
I don't know.

1081
01:22:45,140 --> 01:22:46,320
Oh, okay.

1082
01:22:47,000 --> 01:22:48,900
You had asked the question.

1083
01:22:49,160 --> 01:22:49,300
Me?

1084
01:22:49,640 --> 01:22:50,680
No, it's hot.

1085
01:22:52,680 --> 01:22:54,460
Uh, hopefully that was the answer.

1086
01:22:56,140 --> 01:22:59,850
Uh, not last year, after all.

1087
01:23:00,290 --> 01:23:03,190
Lisa sent out an email to the community.

1088
01:23:04,310 --> 01:23:07,150
They got back and said June 5th.

1089
01:23:07,150 --> 01:23:10,230
And that's just when we set up a neutral location.

1090
01:23:13,530 --> 01:23:16,190
Oh, it'd be like 11 to 1235.

1091
01:23:17,650 --> 01:23:23,150
So we just recess here both there and then be back for our white car.

1092
01:23:23,790 --> 01:23:25,030
That's when they're eating.

1093
01:23:25,190 --> 01:23:27,150
You said either of that data or the next.

1094
01:23:27,770 --> 01:23:27,970
They.

1095
01:23:28,230 --> 01:23:30,530
So what is within neutral location?

1096
01:23:31,450 --> 01:23:33,750
I think that goes back in the past.

1097
01:23:35,700 --> 01:23:36,840
We're still out of the booths.

1098
01:23:36,840 --> 01:23:42,770
best. Thank you partnerships. Please come here.

1099
01:23:44,820 --> 01:23:47,560
And in my frustration with them not getting back,

1100
01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:55,000
protocol is World War III, so you needed meeting with another board or maybe Scamey County

1101
01:23:55,260 --> 01:24:02,680
bringing in, we all say sure, and then she doesn't work for us. And that's proper protocol for them

1102
01:24:02,680 --> 01:24:07,980
here from our club, couldn't even name her song, because it's probably by a frustration.

1103
01:24:08,880 --> 01:24:10,680
Yep. I'd been through that.

1104
01:24:11,520 --> 01:24:12,540
I did.

1105
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:21,500
After the email waiting thinger from the park, we're at the park reach now.

1106
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:25,880
You said there were having a meeting, I believe it was today, and it's hoping to get

1107
01:24:25,880 --> 01:24:34,020
Hactos, he was actually excited. The boatboard should meet and want to meet him and go through with the

1108
01:24:34,020 --> 01:24:37,580
downed version. What they got going and then go to Dalsport.

1109
01:24:38,620 --> 01:24:44,420
Yep. And then they go in. He was like, no, this is neat. And you can see the new project that we're doing,

1110
01:24:44,580 --> 01:24:50,480
which was funded with the old $9, whether you don't have the ground. So he said,

1111
01:24:50,480 --> 01:25:00,880
better to get back to us after they're meeting today. So that's good too. Yeah, it's been a

1112
01:25:00,880 --> 01:25:06,340
long time since we've spent time. That was the two of the meetings.

1113
01:25:13,430 --> 01:25:14,610
So, Lori, can you

1114
01:25:14,610 --> 01:25:20,950
I mean, the landfill gas, what's that? Is that called a committee? So, good

1115
01:25:20,950 --> 01:25:25,250
inspection. Yes. I guess we're a committee of two.

1116
01:25:26,350 --> 01:25:31,550
And so, how is that? You, you were on that last year?

1117
01:25:31,830 --> 01:25:35,390
Or is this here? Yeah, normally it's chair. Yes.

1118
01:25:35,690 --> 01:25:39,990
I asked for her since she's still a little bit else saying that else for discussions.

1119
01:25:40,150 --> 01:25:41,770
We were in the middle of that project.

1120
01:25:41,770 --> 01:25:47,670
Let's say I want that, I'm asking if it just rolls through them up E.K., working with them.

1121
01:25:48,010 --> 01:25:51,770
So do we need to kind of put some agenda items that we want to talk about?

1122
01:25:53,110 --> 01:25:54,770
Is that one?

1123
01:25:54,790 --> 01:25:55,510
Oh, four.

1124
01:25:55,870 --> 01:25:57,750
Yeah, that one we're talking about.

1125
01:25:57,950 --> 01:26:00,850
Yeah, that's probably what we're going to start.

1126
01:26:02,510 --> 01:26:04,850
We're going to talk about the agreements.

1127
01:26:05,950 --> 01:26:08,070
Because, like I said, it's all about process.

1128
01:26:08,070 --> 01:26:16,170
And when you meet with Dan and Dan, you know, both you guys and

1129
01:26:18,410 --> 01:26:19,770
talk about, you know.

1130
01:26:19,910 --> 01:26:21,810
And it's actually a structured meeting.

1131
01:26:22,010 --> 01:26:26,410
It goes through their secretary and she advises a time that I'm available.

1132
01:26:26,770 --> 01:26:30,770
And I'm going to the PD meeting and their secretary sits in with this index meeting,

1133
01:26:30,770 --> 01:26:34,510
that's in great support. So it's a formal meeting.

1134
01:26:34,510 --> 01:26:36,150
We hold on to the men,

1135
01:26:40,340 --> 01:26:43,720
but do you know why that commitment, why it is set up like that?

1136
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:53,320
That. It's just in the original agreement of when we created that's been how many years ago.

1137
01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:54,620
Do you have that two thousand five?

1138
01:26:57,140 --> 01:26:57,620
I don't know.

1139
01:26:57,620 --> 01:27:03,380
I know there's one amendment, but I think that will set up. I think two of them.

1140
01:27:03,580 --> 01:27:09,000
Five signs do you have? I think they had a mutual project that they thought was beneficial

1141
01:27:09,820 --> 01:27:15,040
And it was an easy way to get two people together to get a meal without boards and boards.

1142
01:27:15,600 --> 01:27:17,340
And they were good partners.

1143
01:27:18,380 --> 01:27:23,100
Um, have no problem looking to the good of the people and giving out infrastructure.

1144
01:27:23,880 --> 01:27:24,240
Right.

1145
01:27:24,520 --> 01:27:25,560
You weren't worried about it.

1146
01:27:25,660 --> 01:27:29,160
But it's, so that's that money that once it's in our account.

1147
01:27:29,500 --> 01:27:30,040
Yes, that is.

1148
01:27:31,220 --> 01:27:37,020
Well, at least that you, you do all that accounting for it.

1149
01:27:38,330 --> 01:27:44,970
But in that account in the best place within the agreement, how it could be used?

1150
01:27:46,610 --> 01:27:51,490
Yeah, there's four things that I think it's three or four that can be used for.

1151
01:27:51,910 --> 01:27:58,610
Yeah, because if I recall, I signed some for the supplemental, because there were certain things that wasn't budgeted.

1152
01:27:59,390 --> 01:28:00,350
That was approved.

1153
01:28:01,170 --> 01:28:04,550
So now we need to just identify that it's not that removed money.

1154
01:28:04,550 --> 01:28:06,830
It's just I didn't buy those couple of croquants.

1155
01:28:07,830 --> 01:28:10,450
And I want to be any different if we decided to do this.

1156
01:28:10,610 --> 01:28:12,930
I have to go to the ground to sell the panel.

1157
01:28:13,390 --> 01:28:16,750
But they end, and so I'm a man.

1158
01:28:17,150 --> 01:28:19,570
Because that agreement, so basically,

1159
01:28:19,670 --> 01:28:26,150
Kleftat County gave our landfill gas rights to the PV

1160
01:28:26,670 --> 01:28:29,330
in lieu of $250,000 a year.

1161
01:28:31,970 --> 01:28:34,130
I would have to go back and talk to people

1162
01:28:34,130 --> 01:28:42,050
who were involved in that and understand the rationale and also from the P.D. side. What was that negotiation

1163
01:28:42,050 --> 01:28:46,230
that we landed on that that seemed like that was something they wanted to do?

1164
01:28:47,290 --> 01:28:51,010
That would have been other negotiations for where we didn't do any more.

1165
01:28:51,950 --> 01:28:55,650
So, I don't know, I'm absolutely happy to see what happens.

1166
01:28:55,650 --> 01:29:02,810
Yeah, it's like, you know, so I, I cover Texas, so per me basin. So, and the oil company

1167
01:29:02,810 --> 01:29:09,210
came to me and said, you know, they won't buy mineral rights in my oil rights. And we

1168
01:29:09,210 --> 01:29:17,560
have to have a deal, but then for me to get that money, I need their approved, right? I mean,

1169
01:29:19,110 --> 01:29:25,310
yeah, that's that all, yeah, yeah. But again, it seems like a small amount to you is what I

1170
01:29:25,310 --> 01:29:28,650
you're saying, and maybe we kind of gave the cow away.

1171
01:29:28,990 --> 01:29:30,970
Yeah, I'm not, I'm not going over that.

1172
01:29:31,170 --> 01:29:33,350
I'm just wondering, it's just one or twice.

1173
01:29:33,610 --> 01:29:37,530
That's why I'm saying, you have to go back and really research the documents and then talk

1174
01:29:37,530 --> 01:29:40,170
to the people that were involved and get it firsthand.

1175
01:29:40,330 --> 01:29:44,730
Because if you're not getting firsthand, it's just speculation and we don't know why they

1176
01:29:44,730 --> 01:29:45,990
get it.

1177
01:29:46,230 --> 01:29:50,510
But I'm just saying, yeah, it's an agreement or full parties have to agree or nothing.

1178
01:29:51,170 --> 01:29:51,370
Right.

1179
01:29:52,510 --> 01:29:52,690
Right.

1180
01:29:52,930 --> 01:29:53,090
Right.

1181
01:29:53,250 --> 01:29:54,850
They didn't have to agree with that.

1182
01:29:54,850 --> 01:29:59,970
and I don't know what else went with that. There's other things that went with it like we get reduced rates on

1183
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:07,500
Electrical, we have quite a few other things going on with that that happened through the landfill and through the landfill gas.

1184
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:15,560
Yeah, that was it. Overwhelmingly, a great partnership with some potentially issues are concerns.

1185
01:30:16,720 --> 01:30:27,960
So yeah, so I think maybe with a board if you have some ideas for the meeting to give to Lisa, you know, I was talking about.

1186
01:30:27,960 --> 01:30:33,100
And it may come out as far as I know that is, well, maybe somebody, you know,

1187
01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:37,040
a bar member needs to sit down in the other building owner needs to sit down and have

1188
01:30:37,040 --> 01:30:38,800
that discussion or if we need to talk.

1189
01:30:39,120 --> 01:30:45,360
It doesn't need to be renegotiated because it was just a set B or a type of deal.

1190
01:30:45,540 --> 01:30:48,560
And it didn't have a desk to wait around it or whatever.

1191
01:30:49,860 --> 01:30:51,260
I think it's good discussions.

1192
01:30:52,020 --> 01:30:59,580
And who drafts the agreements when we're, when we're, given that money away, and we're

1193
01:30:59,580 --> 01:31:00,280
bunnies, something.

1194
01:31:03,000 --> 01:31:05,180
I like who drafted the last.

1195
01:31:05,300 --> 01:31:07,480
I also have a community that, um,

1196
01:31:08,360 --> 01:31:10,540
or did you, through a combination.

1197
01:31:11,060 --> 01:31:16,120
It's a combination of go station with the language and drafted, and then it's true to you about a couple of counts.

1198
01:31:16,120 --> 01:31:20,760
So, like, did you do that on a lease on that, would you still want to pay on that?

1199
01:31:22,140 --> 01:31:23,340
So, you think did you do that?

1200
01:31:23,340 --> 01:31:26,140
Yeah, and then they submit over to us for a review of it.

1201
01:31:26,580 --> 01:31:30,120
And it had several revisions before we were out meeting.

1202
01:31:33,700 --> 01:31:36,240
That's why the timeframes that people were at question timeframes.

1203
01:31:37,160 --> 01:31:39,160
Well, it takes time to get a document to us.

1204
01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:40,400
We get it back to them.

1205
01:31:40,580 --> 01:31:41,340
We also legal.

1206
01:31:42,200 --> 01:31:45,380
That just takes time to get it down to where we think it was possible.

1207
01:31:46,240 --> 01:31:52,740
And I know there's questions about the four caveats that are in there, but for me, I would have never taken them over.

1208
01:31:52,940 --> 01:31:55,980
I thought they were in a cheap bowl bowl. And there were nothing that Dallas brought.

1209
01:31:56,060 --> 01:31:59,500
Wasn't quite a good thing for that we're left in there.

1210
01:31:59,580 --> 01:32:01,960
But it's some of the issue for it at all.

1211
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:05,040
We were all there and did get to us.

1212
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:14,800
to discuss the capsules and burrows and I don't know what that P.B.D. discuss capsules.

1213
01:32:18,760 --> 01:32:23,580
And maybe that would be a new working order from now and maybe we need to.

1214
01:32:23,740 --> 01:32:29,180
That in history we've never brought it all towards it to prove we've just improved at that level.

1215
01:32:29,460 --> 01:32:30,320
That's how it's always done.

1216
01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:33,400
No, I just say, I

1217
01:32:36,820 --> 01:32:42,260
don't know, but no, if you have some, like, want to talk about them,

1218
01:32:42,300 --> 01:32:48,220
bring that, let's put it on for that agenda, because I think that's what I said in

1219
01:32:48,220 --> 01:32:56,700
the album, with them, we need to have some discussions, but in my opinion, like I said,

1220
01:33:01,140 --> 01:33:01,300
the

1221
01:33:01,300 --> 01:33:04,320
escalator, I mean, most of the facts have us.

1222
01:33:04,540 --> 01:33:05,140
Yeah, very.

1223
01:33:05,580 --> 01:33:08,860
So, but, I mean, it doesn't hurt that discussion.

1224
01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:11,840
It's not about not having that.

1225
01:33:12,180 --> 01:33:15,100
So, they had better negotiators than we did obviously.

1226
01:33:15,280 --> 01:33:16,280
So, apparently so.

1227
01:33:17,000 --> 01:33:20,220
Apparently we didn't, but Steve, it's Julia won that one.

1228
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:23,860
Maybe we did.

1229
01:33:23,860 --> 01:33:24,840
Maybe we did.

1230
01:33:25,780 --> 01:33:26,020
Yeah.

1231
01:33:26,300 --> 01:33:28,620
Well, maybe we did.

1232
01:33:28,620 --> 01:33:37,740
Steve did a lot of land bill negotiations because the land on you look at that

1233
01:33:37,740 --> 01:33:44,200
Republic since the after a bank all they're like we don't have the gas to that

1234
01:33:44,640 --> 01:33:51,300
I think and the county did very good negotiating to keep the gas up there that will

1235
01:33:51,300 --> 01:33:57,940
He signs the tipping, which was above him, you know, a journal, was also the gas.

1236
01:33:58,180 --> 01:34:01,900
I mean, we had some good conversation on the other side.

1237
01:34:02,200 --> 01:34:07,880
Well, you see, because most, you know, you talk either, you know, waste management.

1238
01:34:08,460 --> 01:34:11,520
I don't know if it's 100%, but I think...

1239
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:12,560
It's not 100%.

1240
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:19,160
Yeah, almost every gas contract, the, you know,

1241
01:34:19,160 --> 01:34:23,200
problem with all that. They said every facility, they own those pathways.

1242
01:34:25,240 --> 01:34:26,340
So, so we have

1243
01:34:26,340 --> 01:34:32,220
some good negotiators on the side. Now we get good there, but yeah, maybe we can go

1244
01:34:32,220 --> 01:34:36,520
steam all the other hand, then we are just going to come out.

1245
01:34:43,080 --> 01:34:45,760
All in, not in 30. Okay. Okay.

1246
01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:48,000
I make one for recess and move the recess.

1247
01:35:59,460 --> 01:36:15,380
All right, it's now in a clock, I'll call the meeting for the Board of

1248
01:36:15,380 --> 01:36:16,280
The

1249
01:36:18,460 --> 01:36:36,220
next item

1250
01:36:38,490 --> 01:36:40,850
approval of the business agenda.

1251
01:36:41,730 --> 01:36:50,090
Well, I didn't see Mr. Chairman, I'd make a motion for approval on the business agenda.

1252
01:36:51,970 --> 01:36:52,250
Okay.

1253
01:36:52,530 --> 01:36:53,530
May I move in a second?

1254
01:36:53,730 --> 01:36:54,430
I mean, discussion.

1255
01:36:55,510 --> 01:36:56,130
Here and none.

1256
01:36:56,210 --> 01:36:56,850
All those in favour?

1257
01:36:57,150 --> 01:36:57,650
Signify.

1258
01:36:57,910 --> 01:36:58,210
Say hi.

1259
01:36:58,990 --> 01:36:59,510
Hi.

1260
01:36:59,550 --> 01:37:00,810
Motion carries.

1261
01:37:01,150 --> 01:37:01,390
Next.

1262
01:37:01,550 --> 01:37:02,210
I'm approval.

1263
01:37:02,510 --> 01:37:03,570
Are the question mean?

1264
01:37:04,070 --> 01:37:04,670
Dean minutes.

1265
01:37:05,910 --> 01:37:10,850
Mr. Chairman, I make a motion for the approval of the meeting minutes.

1266
01:37:11,910 --> 01:37:18,210
for 422, 25, can I do them both at once? Sure. And 429, 25.

1267
01:37:19,710 --> 01:37:24,190
And I say, Dave, I've been moved a second need discussion on the meeting minutes.

1268
01:37:25,010 --> 01:37:29,090
Here in the unit. We'll vote on the motion. All those in favor say aye.

1269
01:37:29,750 --> 01:37:34,190
Aye. Aye. Motion carries. Next item, public comment.

1270
01:37:36,110 --> 01:37:39,110
Individuals attending in person, you're invited to step forward

1271
01:37:39,110 --> 01:37:45,170
when you're recognized for those participating on Zoom, please use the hand

1272
01:37:45,170 --> 01:37:51,670
function or dial one of the numbers listed above and press star 9. I'm

1273
01:37:51,670 --> 01:38:00,470
recognized by the chair. You'll have three minutes. So I will start in the room.

1274
01:38:01,090 --> 01:38:02,850
Anybody in the room would like to start?

1275
01:38:10,140 --> 01:38:12,460
Okay, my name's Bill Clark. I live in

1276
01:38:13,800 --> 01:38:19,860
I'm also an elected member of the Dollsport Community's Dollsport Murdoch Community Council.

1277
01:38:20,440 --> 01:38:24,460
And I'm here today with some questions from community members.

1278
01:38:25,180 --> 01:38:26,220
Okay, number one.

1279
01:38:27,300 --> 01:38:33,520
Community members are wondering why a re-hearing for Dollsport wastewater is being held in Goldendale

1280
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:37,320
when only Dollsport residents are impacted by this.

1281
01:38:37,320 --> 01:38:43,420
Number two, other concerns are, why is there no communication between county and

1282
01:38:43,420 --> 01:38:44,160
Dallasburg?

1283
01:38:44,680 --> 01:38:48,740
We have a community council meeting the second Thursday of each month, the next one's

1284
01:38:48,740 --> 01:38:53,460
two days from now, and the commissioners should at the very least every two to three

1285
01:38:53,460 --> 01:38:57,100
months drop by and let us know, give us an update on what's going on.

1286
01:38:57,900 --> 01:39:00,660
People don't like being treated as if they don't matter.

1287
01:39:01,380 --> 01:39:05,540
I mean, my wife personally has asked several questions and never gotten an answer.

1288
01:39:05,540 --> 01:39:13,620
as I know many other people have also. Why would the county not want to turn this asset over to

1289
01:39:13,620 --> 01:39:19,800
someone who's going to pay for it? You know, why would they be willing to give the plant,

1290
01:39:19,940 --> 01:39:25,100
the wastewater plant, that's worth millions of dollars to somebody, the KPUD in particular,

1291
01:39:25,100 --> 01:39:31,480
for nothing. The county's out of money. Why not put it up for bid and let someone buy it?

1292
01:39:32,820 --> 01:39:39,960
Okay, on August 16th, 2022, almost three years ago, county commissioners David Sotter,

1293
01:39:40,080 --> 01:39:44,400
Jacob Vanderson, Dan Christopher, held their weekly meeting in Dallas, Port.

1294
01:39:44,620 --> 01:39:48,680
They said at that time the bond for the wastewater plundered been paid off.

1295
01:39:48,900 --> 01:39:51,040
The county did not want to be in that business.

1296
01:39:51,500 --> 01:39:56,460
They offered the Dallas Port community a chance to consider ownership of that facility.

1297
01:39:57,180 --> 01:40:02,000
A copy of the PUD's budget was personally handed to me that night.

1298
01:40:02,000 --> 01:40:10,400
Okay, the Community Council formed a committee to look at the proposal, a walkthrough of the plant was done several times.

1299
01:40:10,820 --> 01:40:13,720
Numbers of maintenance issues were turned up.

1300
01:40:13,860 --> 01:40:18,280
FOIA requests were submitted by our committee for financial and other information.

1301
01:40:18,700 --> 01:40:20,760
They were stone walled at every turn.

1302
01:40:21,220 --> 01:40:26,200
We were told we don't know what we're doing and we're nothing but a bunch of winers and complainers.

1303
01:40:26,760 --> 01:40:28,060
And that doesn't set well.

1304
01:40:28,060 --> 01:40:40,960
There are numbers of people that live in Dallas port with wastewater and all inch, they've worked in that field and they know what they're doing and the PUD budget frankly was over inflated.

1305
01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:44,340
I mean, I'm an ex banker, I can tell you that.

1306
01:40:45,000 --> 01:40:53,820
You need to talk with us. Commissioners are elected to serve the residents and the taxpayers of the county, not special interests or other individuals.

1307
01:40:54,700 --> 01:40:58,740
Miss Zola attended several meetings when she was a candidate for commissioner.

1308
01:40:59,060 --> 01:41:01,740
She said she'd help us resolve some of these important issues.

1309
01:41:02,160 --> 01:41:03,200
Hasn't happened.

1310
01:41:04,160 --> 01:41:07,260
Mr. Iary was a candidate's night last fall in Dallas Court.

1311
01:41:07,400 --> 01:41:13,140
And my wife asked him in front of me if he was elected, would he work for the county citizens?

1312
01:41:13,200 --> 01:41:16,780
Or was he going to be in bed with his friends and former business associates?

1313
01:41:17,240 --> 01:41:21,260
I heard him tell her. He would do what is best for the people to click at that county.

1314
01:41:21,260 --> 01:41:23,260
Okay, then do it.

1315
01:41:23,900 --> 01:41:25,140
With all of doing it.

1316
01:41:25,140 --> 01:41:25,420
Oh, best.

1317
01:41:25,840 --> 01:41:26,520
Oh, our bills.

1318
01:41:26,940 --> 01:41:28,540
Unfortunately, our personnel.

1319
01:41:30,540 --> 01:41:32,000
That's three minutes bill.

1320
01:41:32,080 --> 01:41:34,220
Yeah, well, with all due respect.

1321
01:41:34,760 --> 01:41:36,120
If you want to make a.

1322
01:41:36,120 --> 01:41:37,360
I don't know.

1323
01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:39,080
I don't know how to do anybody else.

1324
01:41:39,360 --> 01:41:41,100
That's all I got to say.

1325
01:41:41,780 --> 01:41:42,620
Thank you, Bill.

1326
01:41:44,080 --> 01:41:44,340
Okay.

1327
01:41:44,720 --> 01:41:47,660
Well, I wouldn't like going to that meeting in less.

1328
01:41:49,360 --> 01:41:49,560
Yeah.

1329
01:41:58,990 --> 01:42:02,370
Okay, yeah, there we go.

1330
01:42:03,310 --> 01:42:06,180
Thank you.

1331
01:42:10,280 --> 01:42:10,900
Thank you.

1332
01:42:11,940 --> 01:42:13,820
And I know sometimes it's like that.

1333
01:42:13,960 --> 01:42:15,160
I appreciate that.

1334
01:42:15,440 --> 01:42:20,060
I just have a follow-up question actually to what the gentleman just asked.

1335
01:42:21,640 --> 01:42:28,540
and that was Roger what at least is here. Okay.

1336
01:42:32,170 --> 01:42:35,310
Testing one two hello test. I've got plenty

1337
01:42:35,310 --> 01:42:36,550
of audio at this end.

1338
01:42:39,330 --> 01:42:50,830
Testing one two one two test. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.

1339
01:42:52,650 --> 01:42:53,770
I don't know.

1340
01:43:03,310 --> 01:43:03,730
I don't know.

1341
01:43:04,510 --> 01:43:07,430
So, what's going to end up happening is I'm going to...

1342
01:43:07,430 --> 01:43:08,150
Testing one.

1343
01:43:09,630 --> 01:43:10,330
Testing one.

1344
01:43:11,630 --> 01:43:12,970
Look at your transcript.

1345
01:43:18,130 --> 01:43:19,730
We just can't share it.

1346
01:43:21,460 --> 01:43:23,020
Ah, but let's ignore it to reset.

1347
01:43:24,880 --> 01:43:26,500
Yeah, because it will stray right now.

1348
01:43:26,900 --> 01:43:29,080
It's still right in there.

1349
01:43:29,460 --> 01:43:32,600
Yeah, I'm going to have to shut down.

1350
01:43:33,300 --> 01:43:33,580
Yeah, I'm going to have to shut down.

1351
01:43:33,580 --> 01:43:41,940
you've met everybody back in. So you've got to shut down and then allow everybody to read?

1352
01:43:42,160 --> 01:43:46,820
Unless we do it off of a computer and just turn the computer on.

1353
01:43:47,280 --> 01:43:49,660
We just need to be able to hear them.

1354
01:43:49,800 --> 01:43:53,200
I mean, I'll do that. Do you have a computer there?

1355
01:43:53,940 --> 01:43:54,420
Okay.

1356
01:43:56,980 --> 01:43:59,720
And then we've done this before.

1357
01:43:59,720 --> 01:44:00,900
What do you want to use in my microphone?

1358
01:44:03,420 --> 01:44:03,880
All right.

1359
01:44:07,400 --> 01:44:07,680
Oh.

1360
01:44:07,680 --> 01:44:08,480
I set down.

1361
01:44:08,680 --> 01:44:09,040
I don't know.

1362
01:44:09,100 --> 01:44:09,280
I don't know.

1363
01:44:14,190 --> 01:44:14,670
Yeah.

1364
01:44:15,090 --> 01:44:16,650
Dang it.

1365
01:44:17,470 --> 01:44:17,770
Sorry.

1366
01:44:18,370 --> 01:44:19,370
I said, we have two of them.

1367
01:44:20,090 --> 01:44:20,730
That goal.

1368
01:44:20,990 --> 01:44:21,230
I don't know.

1369
01:44:21,570 --> 01:44:22,150
No more.

1370
01:44:22,650 --> 01:44:23,410
I'm talking about it.

1371
01:44:23,630 --> 01:44:24,090
Because I don't know.

1372
01:44:26,110 --> 01:44:27,310
I'm talking about it.

1373
01:44:28,930 --> 01:44:29,410
OK.

1374
01:44:30,270 --> 01:44:31,330
Can you hear me now?

1375
01:44:31,610 --> 01:44:32,050
I'll do.

1376
01:44:34,010 --> 01:44:38,710
Testing. Testing. Testing. But those online were having technical difficulties.

1377
01:44:55,770 --> 01:44:56,290
Maybe you

1378
01:44:56,290 --> 01:44:58,790
are working on that.

1379
01:45:00,110 --> 01:45:06,210
Would anyone else in the room like to comment or work it on the Zoom?

1380
01:45:16,480 --> 01:45:19,480
I'm recording every one of us out of that.

1381
01:45:24,760 --> 01:45:25,480
Jordan, I'm sorry.

1382
01:45:25,920 --> 01:45:27,020
He's got a pre-inscript.

1383
01:45:27,300 --> 01:45:27,860
That's what he's doing.

1384
01:45:30,580 --> 01:45:32,400
He does, but we don't.

1385
01:45:32,780 --> 01:45:33,320
Oh, come on.

1386
01:45:34,280 --> 01:45:35,760
This is so weird.

1387
01:45:40,940 --> 01:45:41,740
What are you saying?

1388
01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:43,240
It was a pop that I've heard.

1389
01:45:44,340 --> 01:45:45,840
Transcript, read my press, Jan.

1390
01:45:48,600 --> 01:45:50,280
I can see it in the transcript.

1391
01:45:50,380 --> 01:45:51,160
I can see it in the transcript.

1392
01:45:53,020 --> 01:45:54,080
I can see it in the transcript.

1393
01:45:54,940 --> 01:45:55,140
Yeah.

1394
01:45:55,800 --> 01:45:56,240
Let me see.

1395
01:45:56,240 --> 01:45:59,840
I'm going to go ahead and the question will go in the transcript.

1396
01:46:01,240 --> 01:46:14,220
I just wanted to follow up and wonder why the Gallsport shearing there is great is not held in the evening so that working people can attend.

1397
01:46:14,220 --> 01:46:14,880
You

1398
01:46:21,280 --> 01:46:22,980
can get all that.

1399
01:46:23,100 --> 01:46:26,060
He was questioning why I write out a very original,

1400
01:46:26,100 --> 01:46:28,780
although I'm asking him to leave you so I've ever met him.

1401
01:46:33,030 --> 01:46:33,390
And...

1402
01:46:33,390 --> 01:46:34,470
Get away, I'll get him.

1403
01:46:35,370 --> 01:46:35,910
I've got him.

1404
01:46:36,110 --> 01:46:36,290
I've got him.

1405
01:46:36,310 --> 01:46:36,350
I've got him.

1406
01:46:37,570 --> 01:46:37,930
I've got him.

1407
01:46:39,750 --> 01:46:40,110
Roger.

1408
01:46:40,590 --> 01:46:40,790
I've got him.

1409
01:46:41,630 --> 01:46:41,790
Roger.

1410
01:46:42,870 --> 01:46:43,230
Roger.

1411
01:46:52,630 --> 01:46:54,930
That's not my question.

1412
01:46:55,750 --> 01:47:07,730
My question is has to do down support hearing on rates is not held in the evening so that working people can attend.

1413
01:47:15,570 --> 01:47:17,850
What's somebody else?

1414
01:47:30,870 --> 01:47:32,430
No, I'm ways to shut down.

1415
01:47:36,860 --> 01:47:38,960
That's just a very, very time.

1416
01:47:40,840 --> 01:47:42,580
Probably the best solution.

1417
01:47:43,380 --> 01:47:44,780
Because first to shut down,

1418
01:47:45,060 --> 01:47:46,380
take a five-minute recess.

1419
01:47:47,320 --> 01:47:49,560
And that hopefully we could hear everybody online.

1420
01:47:50,300 --> 01:47:51,740
Is that okay with the board?

1421
01:47:52,520 --> 01:47:53,140
Please do.

1422
01:47:53,400 --> 01:47:54,760
Oh, way such for five.

1423
01:47:55,400 --> 01:47:55,640
I don't know.

1424
01:47:55,840 --> 01:47:56,320
I don't understand.

1425
01:47:56,680 --> 01:47:57,680
Please call back.

1426
01:47:57,820 --> 01:47:58,820
Please call back.

1427
01:47:58,820 --> 01:48:02,960
the need to go there to reset the whole system. Please.

1428
01:48:02,980 --> 01:48:03,200
I said,

1429
01:48:03,580 --> 01:48:04,480
the back crowd.

1430
01:48:06,820 --> 01:48:08,080
I don't see.

1431
01:48:08,320 --> 01:48:08,980
It's really.

1432
01:48:09,000 --> 01:48:09,520
It runs out.

1433
01:48:10,880 --> 01:48:14,780
Yeah, I don't think it's just a man.

1434
01:48:15,660 --> 01:48:18,890
All right, we're back on.

1435
01:48:19,550 --> 01:48:20,210
Thank you.

1436
01:48:20,510 --> 01:48:22,590
Well, thank everybody for their public comment.

1437
01:48:22,990 --> 01:48:24,090
Well, who's the next item?

1438
01:48:24,710 --> 01:48:26,350
No, I just can't.

1439
01:48:28,680 --> 01:48:29,800
I just can't.

1440
01:48:29,800 --> 01:48:31,900
All right, Roger, if you could.

1441
01:48:31,900 --> 01:48:34,280
say again,

1442
01:48:37,340 --> 01:48:47,280
testing one, two, oh thank you for waiting. I'm sorry to break your internet a couple

1443
01:48:47,280 --> 01:48:53,580
of quick questions. I think want to follow up on what the earlier gentleman said and kind of

1444
01:48:53,580 --> 01:49:00,500
ask why when you would not hold a hearing in the area that was actually affected and two why would

1445
01:49:00,500 --> 01:49:05,740
not hold it in the evening so that working people, which I imagine or most of the population,

1446
01:49:06,500 --> 01:49:10,360
would be able to attend. I think that's something you could fix very easily and

1447
01:49:10,960 --> 01:49:19,460
wouldn't hurt anything. Just my thought. I had another question, but I've lost it. So

1448
01:49:19,460 --> 01:49:27,020
if you would just think about maybe relocating that, I think people would be very much happier with that.

1449
01:49:27,020 --> 01:49:27,680
Thanks.

1450
01:49:29,080 --> 01:49:29,940
Thank you, runner.

1451
01:49:35,160 --> 01:49:35,680
I've been posted.

1452
01:49:36,280 --> 01:49:39,040
Well, probably go through the process.

1453
01:49:39,360 --> 01:49:44,000
The public hearing has to be put in the public notice.

1454
01:49:44,020 --> 01:49:46,640
It has to be 13 days before the hearing.

1455
01:49:46,920 --> 01:49:54,000
I think what Jeff last week when he asked us and we by consensus said,

1456
01:49:54,320 --> 01:49:57,640
go ahead and send it out. He already posted that in the paper.

1457
01:49:57,640 --> 01:50:06,960
will be out today, I guess, paper comes out today or tomorrow. So it's already posted. I guess what I

1458
01:50:06,960 --> 01:50:13,420
would like to say, my thought process was the public hearing last, or I sat at the end on it and

1459
01:50:13,420 --> 01:50:19,760
it was here and this needed room. I didn't even think about that. I wish somebody during public

1460
01:50:19,760 --> 01:50:31,760
Thomas, last week would have said something because then we still would have had time to correct that, but that's just for my perspective and saying right wrong,

1461
01:50:34,770 --> 01:50:35,710
but any help

1462
01:50:40,060 --> 01:50:43,720
anybody in the room or anybody in the room like to speak,

1463
01:50:46,290 --> 01:50:48,790
okay, online, Anthony,

1464
01:50:59,610 --> 01:51:01,350
you can't under his.

1465
01:51:01,350 --> 01:51:03,190
Okay, can you hear me now?

1466
01:51:05,250 --> 01:51:06,490
Okay, great.

1467
01:51:07,630 --> 01:51:13,410
Um, one of the things you guys approved the minutes from the last meeting, and you

1468
01:51:13,410 --> 01:51:16,390
asked, you know, you basically said, was there any other comments?

1469
01:51:16,670 --> 01:51:23,370
And of course we couldn't comment then, but I would like to point out very sternly that

1470
01:51:23,370 --> 01:51:33,570
Lori, when she talked about being at the District Water District, that meeting, actually

1471
01:51:33,570 --> 01:51:39,930
if you go prior to that, she had said in the meeting prior to that, that she would, that

1472
01:51:39,930 --> 01:51:45,950
they board had approved the vessels and the 180,000, and she was going to go down to their

1473
01:51:45,950 --> 01:51:47,650
next meeting and give them the money.

1474
01:51:47,650 --> 01:51:55,770
Well, now she did go to the meeting, but I understand she didn't bring the money, she didn't

1475
01:51:55,770 --> 01:52:04,530
give the money, instead she tried to force them to find a contract that was not, they

1476
01:52:04,530 --> 01:52:08,130
was despicable that they even wrote a contract like that.

1477
01:52:08,230 --> 01:52:13,510
Some of the stuff in the contract had nothing to do with the Department of Water, but you

1478
01:52:13,510 --> 01:52:18,190
So, she lied over and over and over again.

1479
01:52:18,430 --> 01:52:24,450
I know that the media has a different word for line because they used it a lot when Biden

1480
01:52:24,450 --> 01:52:31,450
was in office, but I couldn't even find that word, but even looking it up as a sentiment,

1481
01:52:31,930 --> 01:52:32,290
sentiment.

1482
01:52:32,990 --> 01:52:39,190
But what I did find is the best word that describes it is she lied over and over again.

1483
01:52:39,190 --> 01:53:05,340
So, I don't appreciate that, I don't appreciate her representing our district, which is, you know, number two, and that's where the water board is, and she's lying left and right, I'm just very upset with that, and I'm hoping that that does not happen in the future, but I know better than that.

1484
01:53:05,340 --> 01:53:16,760
Laurie is really taken on the, I'm a politician, and she's really showing it because she's not doing what's best for Dalsport.

1485
01:53:17,700 --> 01:53:19,300
Thank you very much.

1486
01:53:21,310 --> 01:53:22,110
Thank you, Anthony.

1487
01:53:23,930 --> 01:53:25,490
No, I'd like to respond.

1488
01:53:26,390 --> 01:53:28,110
So, Anthony, thank you for the spin.

1489
01:53:29,210 --> 01:53:36,770
Unfortunately, coming on public comment and spinning things into a different situation

1490
01:53:36,770 --> 01:53:41,910
because the public was not in the meeting, isn't helping your situation at Dallas

1491
01:53:41,910 --> 01:53:42,390
Fort.

1492
01:53:43,170 --> 01:53:45,250
You have some very serious issues.

1493
01:53:46,730 --> 01:53:49,830
I don't believe I ever said I would deliver money.

1494
01:53:49,890 --> 01:53:52,830
There's no way for me to legislatively deliver money.

1495
01:53:52,890 --> 01:53:53,870
I can deliver paperwork.

1496
01:53:54,410 --> 01:53:55,690
I can't deliver money.

1497
01:53:55,690 --> 01:54:01,210
I can deliver paperwork, and if Dow's poor would have agreed to move forward with some items

1498
01:54:01,210 --> 01:54:05,810
that they need to accomplish to stay in compliance with the state, they could have access

1499
01:54:05,810 --> 01:54:12,550
money to fill out their ATEC system, which they have to have and what they need.

1500
01:54:14,230 --> 01:54:19,330
Unfortunately, I was excused from that meeting or dismissed from the meeting by W.J. Morris

1501
01:54:19,330 --> 01:54:26,910
after we had very polite conversations about the contents of that paperwork and I went to my

1502
01:54:26,910 --> 01:54:32,830
car and it's been told that you have executive session. That's not why I left through over what I

1503
01:54:32,830 --> 01:54:37,590
was asked to leave the room for and I did not see any other participants leave the room see

1504
01:54:37,590 --> 01:54:43,390
a whole executive session. So I am concerned for Dow's Board. I'm concerned for moving forward with

1505
01:54:43,390 --> 01:54:50,150
healthy water district, I'm concerned about being able to find ways and help

1506
01:54:50,150 --> 01:54:54,650
Dowsport and work very hard to find a way that you could afford to transfer

1507
01:54:54,650 --> 01:54:58,910
those water rights and get those done. Even today I've been working on it,

1508
01:54:58,910 --> 01:55:04,190
I've been working with the state and working for it so that we can make sure

1509
01:55:04,190 --> 01:55:08,490
that things and Dowsport are fulfilled and that we can keep economic growth

1510
01:55:08,490 --> 01:55:10,070
moving in the Dallas Port area.

1511
01:55:10,730 --> 01:55:17,270
But I'm sorry that you have that version of the meeting

1512
01:55:17,270 --> 01:55:19,510
that we held because that was not the meeting

1513
01:55:19,510 --> 01:55:20,350
I mentioned.

1514
01:55:22,350 --> 01:55:24,050
All right, this is the ring.

1515
01:55:24,510 --> 01:55:25,350
Oh, I'm sorry, Todd.

1516
01:55:25,510 --> 01:55:26,470
I didn't look the way.

1517
01:55:26,930 --> 01:55:29,130
OK, so anyone else in the room would like to speak

1518
01:55:29,130 --> 01:55:30,070
at this time?

1519
01:55:31,150 --> 01:55:32,730
OK, I'll go online.

1520
01:55:34,730 --> 01:55:34,910
Ann?

1521
01:55:40,890 --> 01:55:42,150
Good morning, or afternoon?

1522
01:55:42,590 --> 01:55:44,050
I can't get here for the morning thing.

1523
01:55:44,050 --> 01:55:50,570
Yes. This is Anne Slate Dunn and Delphsport. Seems to be a topic of conversation this morning,

1524
01:55:50,670 --> 01:55:56,350
but a lot of books are asking legitimately about the rate hearing for Delphsport waste water

1525
01:55:56,350 --> 01:56:02,770
that affects only Delphsport rate payers and it's scheduled for 130 on a Tuesday afternoon

1526
01:56:02,770 --> 01:56:10,470
in Goldendale. That makes no sense and it appears designed to limit participation by the people

1527
01:56:10,470 --> 01:56:12,970
that are impacted by the decisions that are made.

1528
01:56:13,470 --> 01:56:14,970
And this didn't just come up today,

1529
01:56:14,990 --> 01:56:17,610
these concerns that emailed all three commissioners

1530
01:56:17,610 --> 01:56:20,210
on Saturday once I had a chance

1531
01:56:20,210 --> 01:56:22,970
to watch the video from last Tuesday's meeting

1532
01:56:22,970 --> 01:56:24,870
and found out what was going on.

1533
01:56:25,110 --> 01:56:27,510
So I emailed it to all three of you on Saturday

1534
01:56:27,510 --> 01:56:29,370
didn't just come up today.

1535
01:56:30,730 --> 01:56:33,230
I hope that all the click attack county voters

1536
01:56:33,230 --> 01:56:35,330
are paying attention to these kind of things

1537
01:56:35,330 --> 01:56:37,470
because it can happen to your community too.

1538
01:56:38,650 --> 01:56:50,970
Going back to last week, Commissioners Aller, you had asked a question about when the interest came up for Dallas for Water District to operate the wastewater plant instead of KPUD.

1539
01:56:51,290 --> 01:56:55,810
Haven't had much time but I did a little research that's been around for a while.

1540
01:56:55,810 --> 01:57:04,090
Bill Clark mentioned this morning, the meeting on August 16th of 22, one all three commissioners were in

1541
01:57:04,090 --> 01:57:10,310
Dallas, Fort in the evening, or people could attend. And the future of that plant was discussed

1542
01:57:10,310 --> 01:57:17,070
quite a bit at length. And reference to the idea of Dallas, Fort Water District taking over O&M,

1543
01:57:17,290 --> 01:57:24,250
with an eye toward purchasing the plant in the future. If you go back to your meeting minutes from your

1544
01:57:24,250 --> 01:57:31,870
the SEC evening meeting on the 16th August of 22, or we put a synopsis that's in the September

1545
01:57:31,870 --> 01:57:38,430
22 Dalsport newsletter. And that synopsis includes the text from the handout that was provided

1546
01:57:38,430 --> 01:57:45,810
by the commissioners at that meeting. That handout also talks about the draft engineering study

1547
01:57:45,810 --> 01:57:51,770
from RH2 that had been completed and was being edited and edited and edited to and clarified

1548
01:57:51,770 --> 01:57:58,790
by the KPUD. Let's think about that for a minute. So the company who wants to get ownership of the plan,

1549
01:57:58,850 --> 01:58:04,830
just as cheap as they possibly can, gets to edit the engineering study that plays a huge role

1550
01:58:04,830 --> 01:58:12,050
in establishing plant condition and price. That doesn't make any sense. And we still haven't seen that study,

1551
01:58:12,110 --> 01:58:16,770
so far as I know, is it finished? Who do I contact for a copy of it?

1552
01:58:18,810 --> 01:58:38,530
DWKD can run the facility cheaper than KPUD. For one thing they're charging and outrageous amount of mileage. Every time they get in a truck to come down here, there's mileage. Our folks are on site. They're licensed. They're certified with a more people running one plant than what KPUD appears to have spread out among numerous plants.

1553
01:58:39,510 --> 01:58:47,510
This whole situation seems to be geared toward turning over the wastewater plan at DALSport to KPUD.

1554
01:58:47,870 --> 01:58:51,850
Instead of doing what makes sense for DALSport and the...

1555
01:58:53,970 --> 01:59:00,470
I guess I'll... I asked Lori, if it was okay if I went to the DALSport meeting,

1556
01:59:00,470 --> 01:59:05,570
because I haven't gone a couple, but not the official community meeting,

1557
01:59:05,570 --> 01:59:08,730
And I know you've got several meetings there.

1558
01:59:09,150 --> 01:59:16,210
And so I can, since this was already set and I'm

1559
01:59:16,210 --> 01:59:19,970
unless concerned that people can attend the public meeting,

1560
01:59:20,710 --> 01:59:23,330
then they have input and say so in it.

1561
01:59:24,030 --> 01:59:28,570
Well, in two, I hope I'm hoping, I thought,

1562
01:59:28,790 --> 01:59:30,850
just that you would get the information down

1563
01:59:30,850 --> 01:59:33,270
to the post office or where else.

1564
01:59:33,270 --> 01:59:36,650
People do have a right sent in comments.

1565
01:59:39,230 --> 01:59:40,970
Also, it's a public hearing.

1566
01:59:41,790 --> 01:59:45,570
I would hope people would comment right in the ring, too.

1567
01:59:46,030 --> 01:59:48,750
But as a sent email, it's pre-set up to the VOCC.

1568
01:59:49,630 --> 01:59:51,530
Because I know the last public hearing we have,

1569
01:59:51,650 --> 01:59:53,310
they'll send it to an individual commissioner

1570
01:59:54,530 --> 01:59:58,810
and make sure we all see the same email.

1571
01:59:59,230 --> 01:59:59,970
It's better sent.

1572
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:07,320
The VOCC, because I had a set count for an hour, last time, and make sure our support had everything

1573
02:00:07,320 --> 02:00:13,580
that I was sent, and they didn't have a lot, so it's really important to set to the VOCC.

1574
02:00:14,540 --> 02:00:16,080
Just saying that.

1575
02:00:16,240 --> 02:00:22,280
Yeah, so I'll show up at the community meeting Thursday and talk to everybody about.

1576
02:00:22,300 --> 02:00:28,660
Could have clear advice, a couple of things. Yeah, thank you for the comments back to the

1577
02:00:28,660 --> 02:00:35,360
to the comments back to the 2022 meeting, because the Dow's Port Waste Water Treatment Plan

1578
02:00:35,360 --> 02:00:42,600
has been, how long has it been there 28, 30 years? That was the first time that I had ever heard

1579
02:00:42,600 --> 02:00:49,140
that there was a local energy with concerns wanting to take it over before that. We hadn't really

1580
02:00:49,140 --> 02:00:54,660
have conversations about that at the county level that I had ever heard. And during that meeting I was

1581
02:00:54,660 --> 02:01:03,740
there, and I have to say two things clarification, that budget that was handed out was a draft budget.

1582
02:01:03,840 --> 02:01:08,940
That was not the final budget of the Cook Tap PUD that started circulating at that time.

1583
02:01:09,520 --> 02:01:15,100
It was handed over by someone who had it in their possession, and it was a draft budget.

1584
02:01:15,160 --> 02:01:16,840
So I just want to make that very clear.

1585
02:01:17,100 --> 02:01:20,440
That was a true budget from the PUD.

1586
02:01:20,440 --> 02:01:25,920
The second to not remember distinctly, there's a very important point today, is that

1587
02:01:25,920 --> 02:01:30,560
Commissioner Sotter, who was your commissioner at that time, made it very clear that

1588
02:01:30,560 --> 02:01:38,280
Dalsport was not incorporated, and that is a big problem in transitioning from government

1589
02:01:38,280 --> 02:01:46,040
to government between the PUD and the county or the PUD and the Dalsport community, if they

1590
02:01:46,040 --> 02:01:50,060
were incorporated, and we talked about that during that meeting.

1591
02:01:50,060 --> 02:01:55,140
Part of the problem it happens with that for the entire county, that leaves us with a very big liability.

1592
02:01:55,380 --> 02:02:00,920
We don't diagnose to that liability of the water district.

1593
02:02:00,980 --> 02:02:07,620
If we move forward and down support water district is not incorporated and we enter into an agreement,

1594
02:02:08,000 --> 02:02:11,660
that still leaves the county holding all the liability for that plan.

1595
02:02:11,940 --> 02:02:16,680
So that's one of the things that's a very big decision per click out for the county.

1596
02:02:16,680 --> 02:02:25,500
And for the county as a whole is keeping hold of that is a liability and so we have to decide what's best for the entire county.

1597
02:02:26,000 --> 02:02:26,920
That's one of our factors.

1598
02:02:28,320 --> 02:02:29,580
Okay. Yes.

1599
02:02:30,920 --> 02:02:32,940
Anyone else in the room like to speak?

1600
02:02:35,890 --> 02:02:36,950
Okay. Thank you.

1601
02:02:42,680 --> 02:02:45,640
My name is Rita Walton, I'm from Delta Sport.

1602
02:02:48,160 --> 02:03:03,560
thing I'd like to kind of expand on is that I'll chop the stuff in 2020 by over the holidays

1603
02:03:03,560 --> 02:03:05,800
or

1604
02:03:07,820 --> 02:03:08,680
not 24.

1605
02:03:11,930 --> 02:03:21,290
we had a spill, a sewage spill. In fact, we had two within a very short period of time.

1606
02:03:22,070 --> 02:03:39,970
Miss Solar acknowledged that she knew about it. When I question KPD, they turn around and they don't think it's their responsibility to contact DEA when there is a spill.

1607
02:03:39,970 --> 02:03:46,370
and it's supposed to be self-reporting. It's in our contract, your contract with KPUD.

1608
02:03:48,370 --> 02:03:55,730
And when I talk to your public works director here, he says it's not his responsibility.

1609
02:03:57,150 --> 02:04:04,390
KPUD says they're you're the permit holder. It's your responsibility. So nobody's

1610
02:04:04,390 --> 02:04:07,550
according to any of these suy spills. I thought the one in

1611
02:04:07,550 --> 02:04:14,370
wish of two months of suy to going down a trench was a

1612
02:04:15,070 --> 02:04:21,930
dud, tell they got a new mortar. This is incredible. This is, you

1613
02:04:21,930 --> 02:04:25,950
talk about responsibility and liability. Well, I guess that you

1614
02:04:25,950 --> 02:04:30,370
don't tell anybody. You don't have anything, you don't have any

1615
02:04:30,370 --> 02:04:32,170
I know it will be something.

1616
02:04:33,050 --> 02:04:34,250
This is ridiculous.

1617
02:04:36,210 --> 02:04:37,850
Anyhow, thank you.

1618
02:04:37,990 --> 02:04:38,950
Thank you, Leo.

1619
02:04:44,280 --> 02:04:45,880
Yeah, we're going on the line.

1620
02:04:46,820 --> 02:04:47,080
Kerry?

1621
02:04:53,300 --> 02:04:56,020
So my name is Kerry Hilton, and I live in Traut Lake,

1622
02:04:56,220 --> 02:05:00,200
where my husband and I own Elk Meadows, Kevin, and Kevin.

1623
02:05:01,260 --> 02:05:03,420
And so this is obviously a different subject,

1624
02:05:03,420 --> 02:05:06,500
and I don't know if I'm out of turn, or how this works.

1625
02:05:06,960 --> 02:05:07,920
You have three minutes.

1626
02:05:08,720 --> 02:05:09,020
OK.

1627
02:05:09,020 --> 02:05:21,020
I'm here to voice my concerns regarding vacation rentals, the use of ADUs as short-term rentals and single-dwelling properties providing RV sites as rentals.

1628
02:05:21,960 --> 02:05:27,280
I'll re-reach out to the Code Compliance Department in October with our concerns and complaint.

1629
02:05:27,280 --> 02:05:41,540
We receive the response that, unfortunately at this time, there is no short term rental ordinance established by the county, and that the board has instructed them not to pursue short term rentals until an ordinance is drafted.

1630
02:05:41,540 --> 02:05:48,680
There may be an ordinance specific to, there may not be an ordinance specific to short-term

1631
02:05:48,680 --> 02:05:49,160
rentals.

1632
02:05:49,280 --> 02:05:54,600
However, there are ordinances in place already regarding residential zoning, single-hunged

1633
02:05:54,600 --> 02:05:57,480
dwelling, ADUs, and recreational vehicles.

1634
02:05:58,100 --> 02:06:05,860
For example, ordinance 3.10, section 2, number 11, clearly states, neither the principal unit

1635
02:06:05,860 --> 02:06:07,820
or the unit, the ADU.

1636
02:06:08,020 --> 02:06:10,260
Shelby is just as a short-term vacation rental.

1637
02:06:10,260 --> 02:06:16,780
A short term vacation rental is a rental which is less than 60 consecutive days in a single 12-month period.

1638
02:06:17,800 --> 02:06:23,460
I shared that specific ordinance with the compliance department and was advised to attend to commissioners meeting,

1639
02:06:24,100 --> 02:06:27,960
which I am here now even though I don't like being public speaking.

1640
02:06:29,240 --> 02:06:32,380
We also reached out to Todd and spoke and linked with him,

1641
02:06:33,260 --> 02:06:40,000
but we feel like our concerns should be addressed more quickly based on the current ordinances that are in place.

1642
02:06:40,000 --> 02:06:42,160
We have been in business for many years.

1643
02:06:42,280 --> 02:06:47,300
My husband fought hard to obtain a conditional use permit to even put in the campground.

1644
02:06:47,580 --> 02:06:51,600
We then had to fight again to add the cabins which are recreational part trailers.

1645
02:06:52,020 --> 02:06:56,300
License vehicles that comply with the A&S I standards for safety codes.

1646
02:06:57,140 --> 02:07:02,240
Not only were they recently added to our property taxes, even though they are recreational vehicles,

1647
02:07:02,660 --> 02:07:07,740
we are also competing with residential single dwelling homes that have not obtained

1648
02:07:07,740 --> 02:07:14,160
conditionally use permits, ADUs that are being used as short-term rentals and property owners

1649
02:07:14,160 --> 02:07:19,660
adding RVs, home-built tiny homes without inspections, and RV sites for short-term as well as

1650
02:07:19,660 --> 02:07:26,260
full-time accommodations, all which are not allowed per-existing ordinances. I'm here today to ask

1651
02:07:26,260 --> 02:07:31,240
what options we have for resolving the conflict that we have with current codes not being enforced,

1652
02:07:32,100 --> 02:07:34,500
especially after submitting a complaint.

1653
02:07:39,860 --> 02:07:40,520
Thank you, Harrison.

1654
02:07:42,320 --> 02:07:42,840
Yeah.

1655
02:07:42,940 --> 02:07:45,040
I mean, that is part of the issue, right?

1656
02:07:45,980 --> 02:07:46,340
Well.

1657
02:07:48,240 --> 02:07:48,520
Yeah.

1658
02:07:48,780 --> 02:07:53,540
We have had one workshop on short-term rentals.

1659
02:07:53,840 --> 02:07:57,560
We are going to move forward on short-term rents.

1660
02:07:57,880 --> 02:08:00,400
But I think that this is a good point.

1661
02:08:01,000 --> 02:08:01,180
Right.

1662
02:08:02,020 --> 02:08:05,350
We have not had the discussion about existing ADU.

1663
02:08:05,350 --> 02:08:12,730
ADU and RB ordinances and we may need to visit that with legal counsel.

1664
02:08:14,920 --> 02:08:17,820
Well, we had one short workshop on compliance.

1665
02:08:21,210 --> 02:08:28,420
No way we didn't really move very far on that side. I think we need to follow up on it.

1666
02:08:29,560 --> 02:08:35,060
Do we know if they have this economic development? Did they get that software?

1667
02:08:36,380 --> 02:08:39,540
They were directed to what they had. I have not heard that they have it.

1668
02:08:43,060 --> 02:08:46,340
Okay, that's for your call, we'll get a time line on there.

1669
02:08:47,480 --> 02:08:49,120
All right, next person,

1670
02:08:53,240 --> 02:08:54,180
seven, two, one,

1671
02:09:02,960 --> 02:09:04,300
one. You're unmuted.

1672
02:09:07,180 --> 02:09:08,540
Greg Wagner with Steve.

1673
02:09:08,680 --> 02:09:09,900
Yep. Guy.

1674
02:09:11,700 --> 02:09:17,100
Eric's your solar project. The northern half of the project is out of the energy overlay zone.

1675
02:09:17,440 --> 02:09:22,000
That part of the project we need a conditional use permit, issued by the Board of Adjustments.

1676
02:09:22,000 --> 02:09:27,000
I'd like to know why the commissioners aren't getting involved with this.

1677
02:09:27,200 --> 02:09:32,700
That project didn't ever got a franchise agreement because apparently it doesn't meet our county codes,

1678
02:09:32,840 --> 02:09:35,680
and it can't be permitted without a conditional use permit.

1679
02:09:36,240 --> 02:09:38,300
So what's going on with that?

1680
02:09:38,960 --> 02:09:40,220
Guys aren't even on the ball.

1681
02:09:40,440 --> 02:09:43,620
We had the carriage you're meeting last night at the Goldendale Bridge.

1682
02:09:44,080 --> 02:09:48,800
Thank you Todd Andrews for showing up and commenting on the behalf of the citizens,

1683
02:09:49,300 --> 02:09:51,060
unlike the other two commissioners.

1684
02:09:51,060 --> 02:09:55,220
It would have been a conflict of interest, three commissioners showed up at a previous

1685
02:09:55,220 --> 02:10:00,580
upset meeting, and all made comments, so that conflict of interest is just as excuse

1686
02:10:00,580 --> 02:10:01,940
for not showing up.

1687
02:10:02,160 --> 02:10:04,000
Now, let's talk about Oak Ridge Road.

1688
02:10:04,580 --> 02:10:07,260
Title 12 standards that Oak Ridge Road is not meeting.

1689
02:10:07,880 --> 02:10:11,000
Title 12.01.030.

1690
02:10:11,200 --> 02:10:17,400
These standards shall apply to all new construction, reconstruction, resurfacing, restoration,

1691
02:10:17,400 --> 02:10:26,120
rehabilitation of public roads. It doesn't say Oak Ridge Road is exempt, but why are you commissioners

1692
02:10:26,120 --> 02:10:34,660
allowing under-campus to hire James Dean to do unauthorized roadwork on Oak Ridge Road that doesn't

1693
02:10:34,660 --> 02:10:39,740
meet the standards of the title 12. They have not submitted all the necessary paperwork,

1694
02:10:40,400 --> 02:10:45,840
done all the studies and everything else that every other road in the county when work gets done,

1695
02:10:45,840 --> 02:10:53,160
they are supposed to meet the county engineer called supervised the roadwork under the direction

1696
02:10:53,160 --> 02:11:01,000
of the board of county commissioners title 12.0 2.0 1 0 and you commissioners are the ones that

1697
02:11:01,000 --> 02:11:08,160
are supposed to approve roadwork. There are supposed to be sealed bid submitted by all the contractors

1698
02:11:08,160 --> 02:11:16,060
put out for public bid, Oak Ridge Road, a county road was not put out for bid. Why was James Dean

1699
02:11:16,060 --> 02:11:20,980
allowed to have the contract? And the county not followed the standards they're supposed to

1700
02:11:20,980 --> 02:11:28,340
do. Why are you commissioners allowing under-campus to do unauthorized work on Oak Ridge Road?

1701
02:11:29,520 --> 02:11:33,580
You act like you don't know anything about it. If Hunter didn't know anything about it,

1702
02:11:33,580 --> 02:11:36,040
He said, I'll go out there and check it when they're done.

1703
02:11:36,460 --> 02:11:40,740
That's pretty poor for a guy who's supposed to be a public works director.

1704
02:11:41,220 --> 02:11:44,400
And then last week, it said, I'm keeping a close eye on it.

1705
02:11:44,900 --> 02:11:48,340
No, the county engineer is supposed to be the one that oversees the work.

1706
02:11:48,900 --> 02:11:52,160
So who's out there verifying the work's getting done properly?

1707
02:11:52,520 --> 02:11:57,860
And to type a 12 standard, the same standard that all other citizens have to comply with.

1708
02:11:58,200 --> 02:12:00,880
Why is under Canvas getting special treatment?

1709
02:12:00,880 --> 02:12:04,480
the special favor for a new entity on Oak Ridge Road.

1710
02:12:05,220 --> 02:12:08,860
Oak Ridge Road's not on the six-year road plan to the year 2000 and 30.

1711
02:12:10,020 --> 02:12:13,300
So that road needs to be done and followed title 12 standards.

1712
02:12:13,960 --> 02:12:16,340
And you are the commissioner that are overseeing the work.

1713
02:12:18,870 --> 02:12:19,970
Thank you for your comments.

1714
02:12:24,300 --> 02:12:27,640
I will have been. I watched the meeting last night on Google.

1715
02:12:27,700 --> 02:12:32,000
I think it was Google Meet. It wasn't. It wasn't soon.

1716
02:12:32,000 --> 02:12:39,340
So anybody else in the room, like to talk, okay online,

1717
02:12:43,540 --> 02:12:44,100
Gabrielle?

1718
02:12:44,980 --> 02:12:46,880
Yeah, hi, thank you.

1719
02:12:46,940 --> 02:12:47,080
Good.

1720
02:12:48,120 --> 02:12:54,820
So first, I don't think it's right to do a rate hike meeting.

1721
02:12:55,100 --> 02:13:02,660
The potential of a rate hike and have doubts for it be left out because you schedule it in the day time.

1722
02:13:02,660 --> 02:13:23,460
I think everyone's concerns about that are real, and clearly, commissioners, you are well aware of what it looks like to schedule a meeting in the evenings, town halls, the planning commissions that got together in different places throughout the county to discuss the upcoming plan.

1723
02:13:24,320 --> 02:13:27,400
that you made those meetings happen in the evening.

1724
02:13:28,240 --> 02:13:33,080
I think that the disrespect that the community is feeling is real.

1725
02:13:33,140 --> 02:13:36,820
And I think the optics for the total of the county watching this

1726
02:13:36,820 --> 02:13:40,760
is disturbing the way that this is rolling out.

1727
02:13:41,280 --> 02:13:44,080
Even if you knew nothing about what was going on with Dalsport.

1728
02:13:44,320 --> 02:13:48,480
In the last few weeks of these conversations and public spaces,

1729
02:13:49,180 --> 02:13:57,160
It is literally a little disheartening on the questions that are being asked and the answers

1730
02:13:57,160 --> 02:14:00,400
that are coming out from the commissioners board.

1731
02:14:00,880 --> 02:14:09,260
I have to say that the language of, well, you paid that loan off a long time ago is incorrect

1732
02:14:09,260 --> 02:14:14,000
when these multi-million dollar loans were paid off in the last five years.

1733
02:14:14,000 --> 02:14:21,380
I feel that if a community is saying to you that they want to have autonomy over their utilities

1734
02:14:21,960 --> 02:14:29,860
and they want to be able to have that asset that it is disrespectful when you look at the history

1735
02:14:29,860 --> 02:14:38,040
of this board of commissioners who speak all the time about local control and the importance of having

1736
02:14:38,040 --> 02:14:45,720
local control and how you fight for that against state and federal agencies diminishing

1737
02:14:45,720 --> 02:14:58,100
your local control. And so I feel that the optics are problematic in how Dowsport is being

1738
02:14:58,100 --> 02:14:59,980
address and the clean up.

1739
02:15:00,000 --> 02:15:18,260
All the time seems to be a little too little, a little too late. And so I hope that going forward, the commissioners become more sensitive to your optics, and to what is being said and to what is being expressed to you.

1740
02:15:18,260 --> 02:15:29,840
The other thing I want to say is that news is breaking that the lumber mill in Beijing is closing their

1741
02:15:29,840 --> 02:15:48,240
plywood division and 81 workers are going to be effectively released. I want to know what the

1742
02:15:48,240 --> 02:15:50,540
in our community down here.

1743
02:15:50,700 --> 02:15:52,600
The other thing, thank you for your time.

1744
02:15:52,980 --> 02:15:53,720
Thank you.

1745
02:15:53,880 --> 02:15:54,460
Yeah, real.

1746
02:15:58,340 --> 02:15:59,160
We need you.

1747
02:15:59,160 --> 02:15:59,900
That's not a song, Laura.

1748
02:16:00,100 --> 02:16:01,880
You have an email to the fidget mayor.

1749
02:16:02,020 --> 02:16:02,560
Yeah, I've seen.

1750
02:16:04,140 --> 02:16:04,220
Yeah.

1751
02:16:04,240 --> 02:16:04,960
That's true.

1752
02:16:05,000 --> 02:16:09,000
I think we're probably up and they have 60 openings

1753
02:16:09,000 --> 02:16:12,340
that they're increasing jobs in their other designs.

1754
02:16:13,180 --> 02:16:17,380
But I did have contact with some of the people from the mill.

1755
02:16:17,800 --> 02:16:20,140
And the company has done a lot more

1756
02:16:20,140 --> 02:16:22,040
and what was released to the public.

1757
02:16:22,280 --> 02:16:27,080
And they did put out a press release that I shared that press release

1758
02:16:27,080 --> 02:16:29,960
probably needs to get out to the bigger public in some way.

1759
02:16:30,160 --> 02:16:32,600
But the company is doing the best they can.

1760
02:16:32,760 --> 02:16:33,800
They give you a proper notice.

1761
02:16:34,100 --> 02:16:36,040
They're trying to help relocate them and give them

1762
02:16:36,040 --> 02:16:37,440
other jobs within the company.

1763
02:16:37,840 --> 02:16:41,440
I think they've opened up an offering 60 jobs in the 81.

1764
02:16:42,440 --> 02:16:44,760
So the company is sensitive.

1765
02:16:45,380 --> 02:16:47,600
When I first heard about it from what I heard,

1766
02:16:47,600 --> 02:16:48,960
I thought everything was going.

1767
02:16:48,960 --> 02:16:54,460
and then economic development became part of what I thought about what would have been down there.

1768
02:16:54,640 --> 02:16:56,580
So that's why I reached out to Mayor Catherine.

1769
02:16:58,160 --> 02:17:05,060
And knowing that a big portion of the mill will still be there, that that will still be mill property down.

1770
02:17:05,060 --> 02:17:08,720
So that would be something that we would be looking to replace that kind of down.

1771
02:17:09,260 --> 02:17:09,520
Okay.

1772
02:17:10,480 --> 02:17:11,900
All right. Next person.

1773
02:17:13,460 --> 02:17:13,720
One.

1774
02:17:15,660 --> 02:17:15,900
Sure.

1775
02:17:20,000 --> 02:17:21,500
Good afternoon, commissioners.

1776
02:17:22,080 --> 02:17:30,240
I'd like to reiterate what Greg touched upon about Oak Ridge Road because those are, you know,

1777
02:17:30,300 --> 02:17:35,040
it doesn't matter where it's at. When people get injured and harmed and they should be protected by

1778
02:17:35,040 --> 02:17:40,280
public safety health and welfare as I roll my eyes, that you're a little rules say you're supposed to

1779
02:17:40,280 --> 02:17:46,720
go by and then you stick this freaking swear peg and a round hole and do all these favors for this

1780
02:17:46,720 --> 02:17:52,580
to keep corporate entity coming into our area that's going to harm our people on that road

1781
02:17:52,580 --> 02:17:54,260
and their own terrace.

1782
02:17:55,080 --> 02:17:59,480
You didn't do it right, you know you didn't do it right, you did it all sketchy.

1783
02:17:59,480 --> 02:18:04,420
The road, you know, to say that some private entity can just hire someone and start carving

1784
02:18:04,420 --> 02:18:09,340
up a county road without any oversight, no engineering, no survey, no fruble, no nothing.

1785
02:18:10,460 --> 02:18:15,740
Ninth go up to bid, it wasn't approved by the B's OCC, y'all didn't sketchy, here we

1786
02:18:15,740 --> 02:18:20,940
our public, here you are taxpayers, your government is ran by special favors. And I would

1787
02:18:20,940 --> 02:18:26,180
probably put some money on the fact that our tax money did pay for that road upgrade that

1788
02:18:26,180 --> 02:18:30,900
was done and it's still not sufficient and people still will die and be injured. And why are

1789
02:18:30,900 --> 02:18:35,120
you stealing dialsport stuff? Is this what you do? You get people to pay for public utilities

1790
02:18:35,120 --> 02:18:40,020
and they're like, oh, it's mine. You know, what's the contract say? Those people there,

1791
02:18:40,020 --> 02:18:44,820
there's a contract, get into that, get into the contract. And if they have a right to take it from

1792
02:18:44,820 --> 02:18:48,840
don't sign a contract like that again. Maybe we better be aware of our government that

1793
02:18:48,840 --> 02:18:53,000
get us to pay for stuff and then they take it from us. And Ron, you need to stop losing

1794
02:18:53,880 --> 02:18:59,280
your self-unstop and then government, you know, like really, what are you, you say,

1795
02:18:59,640 --> 02:19:03,660
oh, we're a government, we're going to give it to our government friends, but really you're a

1796
02:19:03,660 --> 02:19:10,160
corporation. Your register would done. You know, you say you're a nonprofit, but that's coming out

1797
02:19:10,160 --> 02:19:14,000
And hopefully the people will get interested in who you really are,

1798
02:19:14,380 --> 02:19:16,440
and how you have a right to take our money.

1799
02:19:17,800 --> 02:19:19,140
Tell us what to do.

1800
02:19:20,600 --> 02:19:24,760
And Carrie, on your short-term rentals, you're going to have nothing.

1801
02:19:25,300 --> 02:19:27,260
You got nothing. Don't care.

1802
02:19:27,580 --> 02:19:30,580
Now, short-term rentals next to me. My dog was almost killed.

1803
02:19:31,000 --> 02:19:33,340
Like, literally, his throat was torn open by a pitbull.

1804
02:19:33,420 --> 02:19:37,440
I've had chickens killed from the pets from next door coming in over here.

1805
02:19:37,440 --> 02:19:47,200
You know, there's fires in no burnt burn bansies and but they don't care. There are rules. You're right. You read them, but they don't care. They don't care about us. They don't care.

1806
02:19:47,600 --> 02:20:05,120
They want our money. Just like Todd said, we're coming after you for more taxes. They don't come after the wind corporations or the solar corporations, which Greg has proven, should be that the county has the option to charge them more, but because they're special friends, they don't. And they come after us.

1807
02:20:05,120 --> 02:20:11,660
And hopefully when the tax payers start seeing that our tax money is every dime that makes you

1808
02:20:11,660 --> 02:20:17,260
and we have to go against you like the court case with under-campus, then you use our tax money to

1809
02:20:17,260 --> 02:20:22,100
fight us. How many tens, hundreds of thousands of dollars has spent on fighting the people

1810
02:20:22,100 --> 02:20:27,560
who didn't want to die. Your roadwork is dirty. Go ahead, Ron. Cut me off. Goodbye.

1811
02:20:27,560 --> 02:20:28,720
Thank you, Sherry.

1812
02:20:33,910 --> 02:20:35,830
Okay, next is.

1813
02:20:41,720 --> 02:20:42,480
Is that?

1814
02:20:42,620 --> 02:20:43,260
No, I don't see it.

1815
02:20:43,520 --> 02:20:43,820
No, I don't see it.

1816
02:20:43,820 --> 02:20:44,100
No, I don't see it.

1817
02:20:46,180 --> 02:20:46,460
That's

1818
02:20:51,070 --> 02:20:51,630
right.

1819
02:20:51,950 --> 02:20:52,530
That should be.

1820
02:20:53,470 --> 02:20:54,190
Good afternoon.

1821
02:20:54,610 --> 02:20:55,030
There's.

1822
02:20:55,090 --> 02:20:56,670
Thank you for letting me talk.

1823
02:20:57,430 --> 02:20:57,450
Yeah.

1824
02:20:58,010 --> 02:21:01,090
Today there's on the consent agenda.

1825
02:21:01,090 --> 02:21:06,890
There's a radio agreement with district four.

1826
02:21:07,310 --> 02:21:10,450
And I just would like to commissioners to know the David McKune.

1827
02:21:10,450 --> 02:21:29,230
has resigned as Chief of the Fire Department for District 4 and has moved out of the county and so hopefully you will remove that consent agenda, so a proper chief or person can be signed up for that agreement that in the county.

1828
02:21:29,230 --> 02:21:44,410
And then I wanted to know, a lot of times with the radio and the communications, the, in the agreements with you, it's, it's using, click that county of.

1829
02:21:44,750 --> 02:21:58,710
And I wondered when that is used, why click that county of, is that a different department or is that a different, you know, how is that different, because I see that in a lot of the agreements with Jeff King and the sheriff.

1830
02:21:58,710 --> 02:22:01,030
that it says, click that county of.

1831
02:22:01,510 --> 02:22:08,550
And then third thing, I just wanted to follow up on the Sheriff Songer had mentioned that

1832
02:22:09,890 --> 02:22:17,510
the training that they had in District 3 was going to be one of three trainings that are

1833
02:22:17,510 --> 02:22:23,090
going to be used to produce the United States National Policy for Wildfire evacuations.

1834
02:22:23,510 --> 02:22:28,610
And I wondered if you folks know where the other two places are or if there are other things

1835
02:22:28,610 --> 02:22:50,670
Click in that county has been a part of to produce national policies for different things and emergencies in the area, and then lastly, if if you guys could ask Jeff King to announce when the Casita meetings are to the public when he does this update, they change places every month.

1836
02:22:50,670 --> 02:22:55,990
They're usually on the same date. I believe it's a Wednesday, and I'm not sure if it's a second Wednesday, but

1837
02:22:55,990 --> 02:23:02,450
but if you could just let people know where those meetings are each month when he does his update,

1838
02:23:03,270 --> 02:23:09,770
there's some of us in the county that would like to go to those meetings. And that's all I have for you today. Thank you.

1839
02:23:09,770 --> 02:23:13,370
No, good suggestion, Tracy. Thank you.

1840
02:23:16,200 --> 02:23:17,820
Okay, we have.

1841
02:23:20,340 --> 02:23:20,700
Okay,

1842
02:23:25,530 --> 02:23:26,440
can you guys hear me?

1843
02:23:26,930 --> 02:23:35,370
Yeah, you're a chicken. If you can hear the chicken, she is apparently protesting with the rest of the attendees today.

1844
02:23:38,810 --> 02:23:50,590
So, boy, we have a lot of unhappy people today, and I hope that you guys are all taking really good notes on the priority things.

1845
02:23:50,590 --> 02:23:59,330
Oh my gosh, the chicken, that the priority things that the county citizens are wanting, and the

1846
02:23:59,330 --> 02:24:08,410
Dowsport rate adjustment. Honestly, it really made me kind of disheartened a little bit to hear.

1847
02:24:08,950 --> 02:24:15,510
I wish somebody would have said somebody something before the notice went out, because it just

1848
02:24:15,510 --> 02:24:23,650
It seems like common sense that the Del's port water district is apparently a thorn in everybody's side.

1849
02:24:24,590 --> 02:24:31,450
So why not just try to work closer with them and have it a meeting locally in the evening.

1850
02:24:32,250 --> 02:24:35,210
I know that other rate adjustments are normally.

1851
02:24:36,830 --> 02:24:37,670
Hold on, I'll move.

1852
02:24:42,740 --> 02:24:43,800
Can you guys still hear me?

1853
02:24:43,820 --> 02:24:45,340
Oh, really good now.

1854
02:24:46,560 --> 02:24:48,960
Oh my god, the chicken, I swear.

1855
02:24:49,920 --> 02:24:55,740
So I just really hope that you guys figure out whatever needs to be figured out with the

1856
02:24:55,740 --> 02:24:57,000
Dallas part water district.

1857
02:24:57,080 --> 02:25:00,700
If they need to get incorporated, figure out how to get them incorporated.

1858
02:25:01,880 --> 02:25:09,040
But this has to get finished because you guys are getting like very little else done.

1859
02:25:09,560 --> 02:25:14,520
I mean, obviously I'm not there, so I don't know exactly what you're doing, but that in

1860
02:25:14,520 --> 02:25:21,020
short-term rentals. People have been talking for months. And I'm a little disappointed that I missed

1861
02:25:21,020 --> 02:25:26,760
the short-term rental workshop because it had the date had been moved a couple of times and I

1862
02:25:26,760 --> 02:25:35,240
had been checking the agenda and it looked like it had been taken off. But you know, just through

1863
02:25:35,240 --> 02:25:44,500
all of the hate and anger, I hope you guys are seeing like what is actually important to the

1864
02:25:44,500 --> 02:25:53,320
And just kind of look past the anger and figure out a way to get people back, you know, together with you guys.

1865
02:25:54,060 --> 02:26:01,160
So that is all for myself and my angry chicken and have a happy week.

1866
02:26:02,160 --> 02:26:05,040
Yeah, thank you. And you're chicken for your comment.

1867
02:26:05,720 --> 02:26:07,220
Only I'm gonna protect it.

1868
02:26:09,780 --> 02:26:10,460
All right.

1869
02:26:10,640 --> 02:26:16,940
Is there anybody else in the room with that I'd like to speak for online?

1870
02:26:18,820 --> 02:26:21,820
Anyone else online or in the room?

1871
02:26:23,710 --> 02:26:25,990
I'll close public comment.

1872
02:26:27,250 --> 02:26:35,030
And I'd just like to thank everybody for our issues today and for getting back online and hanging in there.

1873
02:26:38,500 --> 02:26:40,820
I was gonna call it budget cuts.

1874
02:26:40,820 --> 02:26:49,700
But that's not funny. So we have we do have a 40 on 98 pictures raise 30. Oh, have one more

1875
02:26:50,640 --> 02:26:54,200
40 on a you'll just take one more call it

1876
02:27:02,800 --> 02:27:05,500
the one white and I'm calling about

1877
02:27:06,720 --> 02:27:09,920
Hello one. Yeah, I carry it now

1878
02:27:11,460 --> 02:27:12,700
I'm calling

1879
02:27:13,420 --> 02:27:15,200
number one about

1880
02:27:15,200 --> 02:27:26,630
I heard Greg Wagner's comments about Oak Ridge Road, and I just would like to put it on the

1881
02:27:26,630 --> 02:27:37,270
record again that in order, first of all, I disagree that adding another probably 500 cars

1882
02:27:37,270 --> 02:27:50,530
It's likely more because of going in and out and out the road, the fire access road standards at 20 to 8 wide is absolutely negligent.

1883
02:27:51,210 --> 02:28:05,430
And I'd like to point out that Oak Ridge Road is not 20 to 8 wide by anyone's standards other than maybe something that just happened to be 20 to 8 wide.

1884
02:28:05,430 --> 02:28:14,090
It literally goes in some areas, less than 20 statewide, but even if it is 20 feet wide,

1885
02:28:14,330 --> 02:28:23,130
it is from an incline on one side to a decline on the other feet incline and decline.

1886
02:28:24,010 --> 02:28:32,070
If there are no shoulders, it is totally unsafe now and to put that many cards on it with people

1887
02:28:32,070 --> 02:28:34,610
that aren't used to being in the country

1888
02:28:34,610 --> 02:28:37,510
and with it being open range,

1889
02:28:38,150 --> 02:28:40,950
it is verificly dangerous.

1890
02:28:42,170 --> 02:28:46,670
Every time the local residents drive on the road,

1891
02:28:47,210 --> 02:28:49,990
they know it is verificly dangerous.

1892
02:28:50,910 --> 02:28:54,010
And I predict that in various ways in order,

1893
02:28:54,410 --> 02:28:56,230
there's gonna be a terrible accident.

1894
02:28:57,210 --> 02:29:00,430
And I would like to bring to your attention,

1895
02:29:00,430 --> 02:29:05,170
that at least two of you were not involved in any part of the sighting of this project.

1896
02:29:06,730 --> 02:29:13,550
But there's the responsibility for these decisions are going to follow on you.

1897
02:29:14,170 --> 02:29:19,830
County employees acted as agents for UC before the hearing is examined.

1898
02:29:20,470 --> 02:29:24,270
They didn't have very people to identify about the safety of the world.

1899
02:29:24,270 --> 02:29:34,390
They had the county employees have to buy it before the hearings examiner regarding the safety of the road.

1900
02:29:34,890 --> 02:29:48,270
I believe the negligence will fall on the county, and I also believe unless the law has changed that when you are negligent, insurance does not cover you.

1901
02:29:48,270 --> 02:29:59,970
So, again, I'd like to remind you, you know, that I honestly believe that had it not been.

1902
02:30:00,000 --> 02:30:15,620
For the personal relationship between Tate 1, the project manager for under-campus, there's person who brought it to the county and Jacob Anderson, the former commissioner, we would never be in this position.

1903
02:30:16,540 --> 02:30:24,080
Number two, I'd like to point out that large protein tanks were taken down into that site.

1904
02:30:24,080 --> 02:30:30,320
So, that should have been evaluated under CEPA.

1905
02:30:31,480 --> 02:30:34,200
Under Canvas did not propose.

1906
02:30:35,580 --> 02:30:41,160
So, pain can't propane youth in that amount during the full process.

1907
02:30:42,000 --> 02:30:46,220
You know, it wouldn't be that they decided to change their minds.

1908
02:30:46,620 --> 02:30:52,000
But I suspected it was intentional that they did not disclose that.

1909
02:30:52,000 --> 02:30:59,580
would have any value, would have any value, thank you very much for calling in.

1910
02:31:05,700 --> 02:31:05,700
Okay,

1911
02:31:06,280 --> 02:31:12,880
public comments, close. Thank you for mentioning. Yeah, another one. Appreciate it.

1912
02:31:15,260 --> 02:31:15,980
All right.

1913
02:31:16,680 --> 02:31:23,940
Any consent agenda? Can you come in for? No, no, let's find go.

1914
02:31:23,940 --> 02:31:30,180
I would make a motion to approve the consent agenda with tenilitis.

1915
02:31:31,840 --> 02:31:33,360
Second motion.

1916
02:31:33,900 --> 02:31:35,780
Okay, open for discussion.

1917
02:31:36,580 --> 02:31:41,400
I believe on the one item that was discussed, even if there's not a right name, they can

1918
02:31:41,400 --> 02:31:42,560
scratch things out.

1919
02:31:42,760 --> 02:31:43,500
Missional it.

1920
02:31:43,760 --> 02:31:43,940
Correct.

1921
02:31:44,540 --> 02:31:47,320
It just says missioners.

1922
02:31:49,840 --> 02:31:49,940
Okay.

1923
02:31:50,700 --> 02:31:52,060
All right.

1924
02:31:52,580 --> 02:31:53,380
Call those in favor?

1925
02:31:54,100 --> 02:31:54,620
Say I.

1926
02:31:54,620 --> 02:31:56,620
I motion carries.

1927
02:31:59,400 --> 02:32:14,920
Mr. Chairman, I would like to make a motion to approve the Pable Warnson amount of 191,451 dollars and 801 cents for the date ending May 5, 2025.

1928
02:32:15,940 --> 02:32:24,880
And I seconded it, and discussion, here and none, all those in favor say I, I motion

1929
02:32:24,880 --> 02:32:25,340
carries.

1930
02:32:26,920 --> 02:32:35,980
All right, new business, old business, I covered several of the things that I was going

1931
02:32:35,980 --> 02:32:41,700
to talk about was the budget number, sweatsheds, Greg and Heather did a good job talking

1932
02:32:41,700 --> 02:32:48,620
that mentioned about the PUNE to 10th, 10th of May,

1933
02:32:51,560 --> 02:32:53,000
and we should be hearing back from the

1934
02:32:53,000 --> 02:32:57,640
port after today, or at least I should be hearing back from.

1935
02:33:00,200 --> 02:33:05,520
I do want to bring out that we are

1936
02:33:07,420 --> 02:33:17,200
having a workshop. This Thursday may be from 930, probably to 11.

1937
02:33:19,900 --> 02:33:21,220
This will be on a supplemental

1938
02:33:21,220 --> 02:33:29,700
budget. It's just for information only. This is not the actual hearing. This is just to

1939
02:33:29,700 --> 02:33:35,200
especially for me. And for Todd and I, to walk through a sublamentals and how they work,

1940
02:33:35,520 --> 02:33:40,840
this is not their experience, but we're just doing that. We will be upstairs here.

1941
02:33:41,360 --> 02:33:47,280
We will be zoom in this meeting since it has to do with budget. Before we said anything,

1942
02:33:47,520 --> 02:33:52,520
they have to do with budget that we're going to zoom on their space. So when I had to send it up

1943
02:33:54,180 --> 02:34:03,760
And then after that, we'll be able to have the fairgrounds flipping, verdict,

1944
02:34:07,760 --> 02:34:09,020
or public works.

1945
02:34:14,180 --> 02:34:21,540
Is there time Erin had asked about coming in to discuss?

1946
02:34:21,540 --> 02:34:24,380
Um, it's Dallas to discuss Dallas.

1947
02:34:24,520 --> 02:34:27,360
What's talking after he said, oh, why don't you three first reached out.

1948
02:34:27,520 --> 02:34:29,520
A work shop on that.

1949
02:34:31,400 --> 02:34:33,980
I have worked on my was higher level.

1950
02:34:35,140 --> 02:34:35,240
Yeah.

1951
02:34:35,500 --> 02:34:37,300
Yeah, I worked on some things going forward.

1952
02:34:37,340 --> 02:34:41,660
Like I said, and I'm going to be having a meeting with Aaron and David to clarify some things.

1953
02:34:41,760 --> 02:34:43,440
And so maybe I'll get that.

1954
02:34:43,520 --> 02:34:44,920
Could you bring that back?

1955
02:34:44,920 --> 02:34:45,200
Yeah.

1956
02:34:45,560 --> 02:34:48,280
Talk to us and then we'll get a meeting on our show.

1957
02:34:48,660 --> 02:34:50,520
I can do that.

1958
02:34:52,000 --> 02:34:55,760
We did an apparently all three of us asked pretty much the same question.

1959
02:34:55,880 --> 02:34:58,440
Yeah, she's like, she did for, uh, yeah.

1960
02:34:58,440 --> 02:35:02,000
I'm going to handle it in a meeting so we weren't all.

1961
02:35:02,280 --> 02:35:02,560
Yeah, yeah.

1962
02:35:02,640 --> 02:35:09,860
Well, in line with some of his art, our department health, and then there's the state department

1963
02:35:09,860 --> 02:35:14,280
health and understanding who's over what?

1964
02:35:14,860 --> 02:35:18,240
So hopefully, after you have your conversation, I can read now.

1965
02:35:18,240 --> 02:35:22,380
Because I understood, basically, the state department

1966
02:35:22,380 --> 02:35:26,840
health has those answers, not our local department,

1967
02:35:27,280 --> 02:35:31,020
but I was asking, counting on it.

1968
02:35:31,380 --> 02:35:34,540
But I was saying it's a combination of things

1969
02:35:34,540 --> 02:35:39,280
but the higher answer comes from the state,

1970
02:35:39,400 --> 02:35:41,240
of course, our departments under them.

1971
02:35:41,920 --> 02:35:43,400
So I'll bring that back to you.

1972
02:35:43,500 --> 02:35:44,680
And then you could see if you'd still

1973
02:35:45,260 --> 02:35:51,620
visit with Aaron, and hopefully we'll find a path through, so we're looking

1974
02:35:51,620 --> 02:35:58,400
part. And like I said, if you have things you want on the agenda, whether you

1975
02:35:58,400 --> 02:36:04,300
tell any of you to talk about, please give to Lisa. Okay, please. Because I think

1976
02:36:04,300 --> 02:36:09,340
they did have some, I don't know what I'm talking about. And then from there from

1977
02:36:09,340 --> 02:36:13,180
meeting where I'm going to go from there.

1978
02:36:17,540 --> 02:36:21,270
What else? I had nothing.

1979
02:36:23,550 --> 02:36:23,950
I thought I did

1980
02:36:23,950 --> 02:36:32,490
you have three things. Yeah, so there was a carrier was in town last night with the F

1981
02:36:32,490 --> 02:36:39,390
set and they had a meeting that they go into a range. So that unfortunately I wasn't able to

1982
02:36:39,390 --> 02:36:55,390
10 white salmon fire me that that happened, but I stayed up to date mostly with Jeff King on that and we talked as I was driving back to white salmon the adrenaline back to go now and be fast.

1983
02:36:57,270 --> 02:37:04,370
But yeah, that means it was a little disheartening that FCEC decided to fast track the process

1984
02:37:04,370 --> 02:37:10,550
against the Appamodination Tribal considerations against people.

1985
02:37:10,770 --> 02:37:18,110
And I was not, I driven down Night Road, but it was not aware I didn't do a long sight visit.

1986
02:37:18,590 --> 02:37:19,010
So I guess we did.

1987
02:37:19,010 --> 02:37:19,790
I had a proximity.

1988
02:37:20,470 --> 02:37:25,370
Yeah, so yesterday I went through, went with someone that had keys and went through multiple games.

1989
02:37:25,370 --> 02:37:32,350
and, you know, loved it. And that site, I mean, you can see almost every home from Senator

1990
02:37:32,350 --> 02:37:38,370
Bill to Goldendale. So it is like, if you wanted to have a very visible,

1991
02:37:40,480 --> 02:37:41,400
several thousand

1992
02:37:41,400 --> 02:37:51,780
acre panels, that would be the place, and some of my concern is property values, tourism, and

1993
02:37:51,780 --> 02:37:55,040
And then that's probably a productive farmland.

1994
02:37:55,860 --> 02:37:57,580
So, but...

1995
02:37:57,580 --> 02:38:00,800
Well, and I thought to, since I've been here a little bit longer,

1996
02:38:01,460 --> 02:38:06,640
make it really, really clear that the F-sex staff has been good to work with.

1997
02:38:06,880 --> 02:38:10,120
They've been great to work with. It wasn't. I have a handed

1998
02:38:10,120 --> 02:38:15,240
between us ever. I think they're in a rock and a hard place as well.

1999
02:38:15,600 --> 02:38:20,920
They've been asked by Governor Inslee to be put in that place and make those decisions.

2000
02:38:20,920 --> 02:38:28,460
and then given the parameters for this. So they're doing their job. She's really on 14.

2001
02:38:29,460 --> 02:38:37,000
Still? Yeah. Really? And Eric, I see Scott. He's probably down here. We need to get our criteria

2002
02:38:40,520 --> 02:38:44,680
through where we want stuff, or we don't want stuff, or we don't want stuff right, Jerika.

2003
02:38:46,560 --> 02:38:51,380
And I are equally with how Benton County, so they're still in the lawsuit against.

2004
02:38:52,780 --> 02:39:00,160
because ASAP had it in half due to environmental concerns and then the governor flew in and

2005
02:39:00,160 --> 02:39:02,880
Trump that said he'll do a full bill.

2006
02:39:05,450 --> 02:39:08,690
So that in result is everyone's with this home.

2007
02:39:10,350 --> 02:39:16,470
And so, are they still in current lawsuit? Is that still being battle?

2008
02:39:20,080 --> 02:39:23,760
I assume it's just giving. All right, so many, if I don't think that's going to bite you

2009
02:39:23,760 --> 02:39:27,640
So do you guys have any, do you talk to anyone from Bitten County?

2010
02:39:28,300 --> 02:39:29,720
Not for some time now.

2011
02:39:30,060 --> 02:39:32,320
Yachtmark County does a good job to them.

2012
02:39:32,540 --> 02:39:33,260
They stay in trench.

2013
02:39:33,500 --> 02:39:35,680
We've just been kind of in the waiting system.

2014
02:39:37,060 --> 02:39:39,580
So that's too much that we can.

2015
02:39:40,060 --> 02:39:46,000
Well, to need to get more of all with the Eastern counties at the state of Washington.

2016
02:39:46,220 --> 02:39:48,840
So if you ever see an email come through.

2017
02:39:49,040 --> 02:39:49,480
Okay.

2018
02:39:49,540 --> 02:39:50,900
And send that through.

2019
02:39:51,640 --> 02:39:58,220
who's who's who's what because there's just Eastern counts because I used to be involved with that association with you.

2020
02:39:58,480 --> 02:39:59,820
We have a lot to do with us.

2021
02:39:59,820 --> 02:40:05,360
And I think in the beginning, I had, you mentioned that inside the word you won a long time ago.

2022
02:40:05,680 --> 02:40:06,980
But I'll find it all up.

2023
02:40:06,980 --> 02:40:07,980
Well, I'll find it for you.

2024
02:40:07,980 --> 02:40:16,360
Because there's lost hack and then there's an Eastern County Board that kind of concoctures out because we're so different than the rest of the sites.

2025
02:40:16,360 --> 02:40:23,900
So they try to get together and be kind of a mini-walsack for just the eastern side to take

2026
02:40:23,900 --> 02:40:28,140
our, hopefully our voice is sort of, because we seem to just get run over everywhere.

2027
02:40:28,640 --> 02:40:30,240
It's kind of like the RTC thing.

2028
02:40:33,540 --> 02:40:39,620
No, I think, I think lawsuits are generally the way those things have to be settled and I think

2029
02:40:39,620 --> 02:40:47,820
Yeah, combination, they will, that'll probably go to suit, if we could join Benton County.

2030
02:40:54,040 --> 02:40:58,600
That's something you could talk to, prosecute, won't you?

2031
02:41:01,750 --> 02:41:05,490
Yeah, the, the, the good discussion.

2032
02:41:07,770 --> 02:41:09,850
You know, it always comes down with probability.

2033
02:41:11,150 --> 02:41:13,750
That was my, you guys, yeah.

2034
02:41:14,230 --> 02:41:22,990
probability, the area to read, and I have to start with, you know, the cost, what's the probability,

2035
02:41:24,430 --> 02:41:31,880
center, center, it's all, you know, and not are opposed to having the discussion.

2036
02:41:33,280 --> 02:41:43,220
And so F said, I mean, because the the requirement is that we

2037
02:41:44,530 --> 02:41:48,030
But we get to say so, and to...

2038
02:41:48,030 --> 02:41:49,030
What was that question?

2039
02:41:49,930 --> 02:41:54,610
So, F-set came about because they wanted, you know, because they're basically saying

2040
02:41:55,650 --> 02:41:58,650
mandating that these projects have to move forward.

2041
02:41:59,370 --> 02:42:04,410
Well, F-set was more when the nuclear facility was put in, and nobody wanted the nuclear

2042
02:42:04,410 --> 02:42:09,430
and they're back there. Right. And so, a original purpose,

2043
02:42:09,430 --> 02:42:12,330
But what is being used now? I think it's kind of too different.

2044
02:42:13,330 --> 02:42:16,350
Right. Yeah, they expanded their authority. Oh, yes.

2045
02:42:16,890 --> 02:42:24,630
Yeah, I mean, you're going to have a huge interest in expanding green energy. So he made a

2046
02:42:24,630 --> 02:42:29,490
mechanism to be able to handle it at the state level and basically bypass us.

2047
02:42:29,870 --> 02:42:36,250
But I mean, how can they, I mean, we we haven't stopped green energy. We've been very

2048
02:42:36,250 --> 02:43:01,350
Well, inviting an open, and that's why I say, I mean, really we finish our criteria and here for what I heard before we don't, and how do we, I mean, that's I, I heard your comment last night and that's why I appreciate it. We're not saying no, it's just a word with what right that that that's the most destructive place.

2049
02:43:01,350 --> 02:43:07,110
But they want it there because they want it there because they want it there because they want it there because of the BPA transmission

2050
02:43:07,110 --> 02:43:11,010
Here that that's the bottom one

2051
02:43:11,650 --> 02:43:14,630
For the transmission lines that would not be that

2052
02:43:17,390 --> 02:43:22,650
They could put it without which I never thought that when that transmission line was being built

2053
02:43:23,630 --> 02:43:30,210
BPA sentence to get the power back to the big Eddie over in the dals and that's all it was

2054
02:43:43,570 --> 02:43:44,690
Anything else?

2055
02:43:47,940 --> 02:43:55,720
Would you guys be open to doing a, have Jeff Hunter doing a request, an RFP for Desport waste water?

2056
02:43:58,810 --> 02:44:09,150
I mean, I just like to, to relook at it and have PUD come forward with their, with their best thing and look at who else, since we have, we have a lot of interest and growth and health support.

2057
02:44:09,150 --> 02:44:16,390
We should have a conversation about that with them and let them tell you what it takes to do the RFP,

2058
02:44:16,430 --> 02:44:19,750
what it costs to the RFP and what could happen with that.

2059
02:44:19,970 --> 02:44:26,010
We had conversations before and it isn't just the PUD that would be available to apply.

2060
02:44:26,490 --> 02:44:31,910
You have entities in the work, and we could get someone from where they could apply.

2061
02:44:32,350 --> 02:44:36,910
And the other problem with them, and I've talked about it several times,

2062
02:44:39,660 --> 02:44:44,520
They say they're qualified, but they have to come forward to fill out the RAP that will

2063
02:44:44,520 --> 02:44:50,200
be licensed by the state, ensure bomb that have all the deaths in a row before they can

2064
02:44:50,200 --> 02:44:54,260
even fill out that RAP, so they need to be careful with their wish for.

2065
02:44:54,900 --> 02:44:58,380
Because we could put out an RAP that they haven't been qualified to apply.

2066
02:45:00,000 --> 02:45:12,260
I mean, we can do that for every issue and I'm like, I'm sure the PVD would, would easily be the winner.

2067
02:45:12,420 --> 02:45:17,980
But we also have a former contract with the PVD to the unit to the unit.

2068
02:45:17,980 --> 02:45:19,540
I wish you had a chance.

2069
02:45:19,920 --> 02:45:22,340
No, I'm just not, it's not, it's not, it's not.

2070
02:45:22,800 --> 02:45:25,580
There's no obligation.

2071
02:45:27,440 --> 02:45:27,780
That's enough.

2072
02:45:27,780 --> 02:45:30,200
Now I talk to both of other water, you know.

2073
02:45:30,860 --> 02:45:33,480
So white Sam is talk to the people really now one.

2074
02:45:33,780 --> 02:45:37,800
So that's owned by the city and run.

2075
02:45:39,020 --> 02:45:40,060
Well, imagine, right?

2076
02:45:40,340 --> 02:45:41,300
A wastewater plant.

2077
02:45:41,660 --> 02:45:43,000
It's the most first bill.

2078
02:45:44,960 --> 02:45:48,340
So be sure to separate waste water and water.

2079
02:45:48,520 --> 02:45:52,520
They're two different liabilities, make sure when you ask questions.

2080
02:45:55,940 --> 02:46:01,460
So I don't know if we're at the point we're ready for that, this one.

2081
02:46:01,660 --> 02:46:06,480
Yeah, I, to be in all my terms of Brian Beatrice Perr, to say,

2082
02:46:06,860 --> 02:46:14,380
I asked us to fall through the contract, who even said the PUD is very wanted with the direction I asked.

2083
02:46:14,380 --> 02:46:15,380
That's a way out.

2084
02:46:17,220 --> 02:46:22,900
So maybe, because we may be over here, no matter what we haven't had big discussions

2085
02:46:22,900 --> 02:46:27,040
like a workshop or talk, we know, we're always on the water, we haven't got to the waste

2086
02:46:27,040 --> 02:46:27,600
water yet.

2087
02:46:27,980 --> 02:46:28,800
That would be one thing.

2088
02:46:28,960 --> 02:46:32,620
I haven't followed that many trail, because I've been busy with other ones.

2089
02:46:32,840 --> 02:46:36,880
That might be something you want to research at the state level who is in charge of all

2090
02:46:36,880 --> 02:46:38,300
the waste water treatment plants.

2091
02:46:38,520 --> 02:46:43,500
What does that take and what would they have to have to, so that you know the answer

2092
02:46:43,500 --> 02:46:46,920
before you encourage something that might help make more sure.

2093
02:46:46,920 --> 02:46:48,660
Oh, I heard last year when you guys were

2094
02:46:48,660 --> 02:46:52,060
having conversations with the cost to do the RFP.

2095
02:46:52,360 --> 02:46:52,660
Yeah.

2096
02:46:52,660 --> 02:46:55,040
Which I learned there, I mean, it seems house.

2097
02:46:55,280 --> 02:46:55,980
It's very, very nice.

2098
02:46:56,140 --> 02:46:58,420
It's a decent, quite a bit of money.

2099
02:46:58,900 --> 02:46:59,940
So, touch things.

2100
02:47:00,380 --> 02:47:02,040
And then also the idea because...

2101
02:47:02,040 --> 02:47:03,460
How do you stop the order of the PVP?

2102
02:47:03,460 --> 02:47:06,300
How do you stop the cost to do an RFP?

2103
02:47:06,460 --> 02:47:10,900
And someone brought up the incorporated subject

2104
02:47:10,900 --> 02:47:18,860
I think it was Kaylee about help them getting corporate to they have to have the right population and then have to apply for all the reasons

2105
02:47:18,860 --> 02:47:22,980
And they would have to have their own police department everything if they become incorporated

2106
02:47:22,980 --> 02:47:27,080
It's a big deal. It's not just you get a letter of incorporation. Yeah

2107
02:47:27,760 --> 02:47:33,400
So if they'd not incorporated it's my understanding and we still we still have the liability

2108
02:47:33,400 --> 02:47:37,820
So if whoever had it failed, we would inherit it back again

2109
02:47:37,820 --> 02:47:41,560
And so, so why do why do most cities on theirs? Because they're incorporated.

2110
02:47:42,500 --> 02:47:49,960
I mean, and they're eligible for licensed bonding state oversight. And so they actually own

2111
02:47:49,960 --> 02:47:53,740
theirs and they're responsible for them. It's another department for them, just like we

2112
02:47:53,740 --> 02:48:02,120
have public works. Each city gets a public works. Yeah. So why does a county not want to own one,

2113
02:48:02,260 --> 02:48:07,500
when this city does want to own one, I'm saying it's government liability for us. We're not in

2114
02:48:07,500 --> 02:48:08,060
waste of time.

2115
02:48:08,220 --> 02:48:09,780
We've got a lot of stuff that the city has like.

2116
02:48:09,800 --> 02:48:14,100
They have liability, but they're able to have all that bonding and insurance and stuff

2117
02:48:14,100 --> 02:48:15,460
because of their own energy.

2118
02:48:15,980 --> 02:48:20,120
If we do it, we're spending those funds against her Dow's part because we would still be

2119
02:48:20,120 --> 02:48:28,150
the owners and the idea is, we have the license and bonding or, but we're not in the waste

2120
02:48:28,150 --> 02:48:29,550
for our treatment plant business.

2121
02:48:30,270 --> 02:48:34,790
We never, we can't, cities aren't, I'm saying this, this is, I'm trying to, I'm trying

2122
02:48:34,790 --> 02:48:37,790
to, if you're talking about, it was in corporate city.

2123
02:48:38,370 --> 02:48:38,610
Yes.

2124
02:48:38,610 --> 02:48:45,110
Still there again. I honestly, it's a no brain. Yes, they should have. It's a tear-and-corporated.

2125
02:48:45,630 --> 02:48:51,230
And I had read the other day, you know, in the discussion of they paid the debt.

2126
02:48:52,990 --> 02:48:57,210
No, they didn't. Everybody in the club tap county paid that debt. Oh, yeah.

2127
02:48:57,270 --> 02:49:04,250
That was too long. Everything. Because they would have paid all the debt. This is a new point.

2128
02:49:04,250 --> 02:49:09,990
they paid, you know. So why are cities not trying to upload their water to their wastewater?

2129
02:49:10,230 --> 02:49:17,810
Oh, they have to. They're not money making. Right. I mean, our sewer just went up another,

2130
02:49:18,290 --> 02:49:21,410
but they can't, they can be privately owned. Well, and if you're incorporated,

2131
02:49:21,490 --> 02:49:27,130
I don't understand. I'll maybe there's a state law that you have to own and run those things.

2132
02:49:27,130 --> 02:49:31,410
If you're incorporated, I don't know that. But they only want our systems, they only,

2133
02:49:31,410 --> 02:49:36,130
they become real cities. They have to have a police department, you know, they tend to

2134
02:49:36,130 --> 02:49:40,370
have to have a district court. I guess we didn't survive that for them.

2135
02:49:40,610 --> 02:49:45,430
I don't water out of all the water, waste water and not money bankers. If you have a private

2136
02:49:45,430 --> 02:49:52,630
entity in there, they're going to be there to make months. Right? Who's going to pay for them?

2137
02:49:53,430 --> 02:49:57,950
We just have a gray area between us and us for an out because they're not in the

2138
02:50:01,030 --> 02:50:03,410
I mean, it's a good discussion.

2139
02:50:04,070 --> 02:50:04,570
Yes, I know.

2140
02:50:04,610 --> 02:50:07,250
I just said the question, go forward, burn the contract.

2141
02:50:08,470 --> 02:50:09,090
Don't be transparent.

2142
02:50:09,410 --> 02:50:11,310
I don't even think they've had any discussions.

2143
02:50:11,630 --> 02:50:13,370
Well, there's not a contract, right?

2144
02:50:13,730 --> 02:50:16,410
So it says on operating agreement.

2145
02:50:19,170 --> 02:50:23,910
That is just stated that it might go through like this

2146
02:50:23,910 --> 02:50:32,550
and the possible intent would be to. I just want to make sure it follows the, I don't,

2147
02:50:33,150 --> 02:50:39,590
I don't have a decision, like I very much agree that it's a huge amount of debt. There's

2148
02:50:39,590 --> 02:50:45,370
liability, it's one thing, but I don't really see a difference between the city and the county

2149
02:50:46,250 --> 02:50:52,490
and I want to make sure that it goes through a process and we weigh the options.

2150
02:50:52,490 --> 02:51:02,490
So just like all the other things, it goes out for quest for proposal, it goes out, and we look at, because there's a verbal offer, someone wanting to send a lot of money to buy it.

2151
02:51:03,750 --> 02:51:05,230
But that's your second.

2152
02:51:05,410 --> 02:51:06,630
Yeah, it did well.

2153
02:51:07,530 --> 02:51:09,770
So, we're both contracts in order.

2154
02:51:09,890 --> 02:51:12,710
Thought I would put a pro and a con list together.

2155
02:51:13,570 --> 02:51:14,150
Well, I know.

2156
02:51:14,450 --> 02:51:22,310
But I'm saying if we take that process and we go through and we say option one is we continue to have it.

2157
02:51:22,310 --> 02:51:26,590
the best person operated. I imagine it would be, I know there's, there's lots of that

2158
02:51:26,590 --> 02:51:34,310
set of floating out there, but it should easily be the best people to run it. I mean,

2159
02:51:34,490 --> 02:51:38,310
they should easily win that. Well, and I know there's a lot of upset about

2160
02:51:39,670 --> 02:51:52,290
spills that they've talked about, that they knew as community people versus what the

2161
02:51:52,290 --> 02:51:58,210
state compliance work that that's where that lands. And then they notify us, we don't have a new

2162
02:51:58,210 --> 02:51:58,750
occasion.

2163
02:52:01,760 --> 02:52:06,140
Oh, there are a lot of things going back and forth. And I think in, I don't care about

2164
02:52:06,140 --> 02:52:11,800
the back of the book, right? I just found it, it can move forward, and we can say option one is we, we

2165
02:52:11,800 --> 02:52:21,600
continue to own it and another entity runs it. So in option one, you need to research county

2166
02:52:21,600 --> 02:52:28,180
ability and what that cost should be. Yes, we had liability and in lots of things. I'm saying,

2167
02:52:28,460 --> 02:52:34,820
so that's included in that. But skipping that whole process and saying, we're going to do this

2168
02:52:34,820 --> 02:52:40,640
without looking or without entertaining any of those other ideas. That's where people get upset because

2169
02:52:40,640 --> 02:52:47,300
it doesn't follow a proper process where anyone gets his... And that may have been a discussion that

2170
02:52:47,300 --> 02:52:48,900
they weren't ever involved in.

2171
02:52:49,200 --> 02:52:52,760
You know, maybe former boards before us.

2172
02:52:52,760 --> 02:52:55,200
Yeah, I mean, I'm trying to care about the four boards.

2173
02:52:55,700 --> 02:52:56,940
But that's not a good idea.

2174
02:52:56,940 --> 02:52:59,740
Just an idea of this and what would potentially happen

2175
02:52:59,740 --> 02:53:02,340
in so it's anything like that is the option

2176
02:53:02,340 --> 02:53:05,540
that is the top of the list, option and the way

2177
02:53:05,540 --> 02:53:09,100
with easily progressed, that there's lots of other options

2178
02:53:09,100 --> 02:53:11,440
that should be waiting for.

2179
02:53:11,600 --> 02:53:13,020
Well, there's a lot of options.

2180
02:53:13,020 --> 02:53:16,640
So, every option has a different outcome,

2181
02:53:19,040 --> 02:53:21,100
and it was, I think one way or another, either,

2182
02:53:21,320 --> 02:53:25,660
I'm willing for discussions, but I'm just saying, Devil's Advocate, what the things

2183
02:53:25,660 --> 02:53:27,080
are we need to really look at?

2184
02:53:27,160 --> 02:53:30,040
What is the line, the logic of the county, because that's our job?

2185
02:53:30,120 --> 02:53:30,600
I don't know.

2186
02:53:30,600 --> 02:53:33,500
And what is the cost of the county, that's our job?

2187
02:53:34,320 --> 02:53:39,420
And if we can answer those, and it can move A, B, or C, then that's what we need to do.

2188
02:53:40,460 --> 02:53:45,940
You know people say waste for a plus-making money. I'm sorry, I haven't seen it.

2189
02:53:48,020 --> 02:53:54,940
I'm sorry. And the life of the plan, the expectancy life of the plan, we have some

2190
02:53:54,940 --> 02:53:59,900
why abilities coming up. Well, they don't have to make us money, right? Because then we'd have to

2191
02:53:59,900 --> 02:54:05,160
charge rates. Well, you just charge plus rate. So if you're making money, that stays in that.

2192
02:54:05,160 --> 02:54:05,420
Yes.

2193
02:54:06,100 --> 02:54:06,220
Yes.

2194
02:54:07,020 --> 02:54:07,280
Yes.

2195
02:54:07,280 --> 02:54:07,680
Yes.

2196
02:54:11,740 --> 02:54:13,160
So if we can.

2197
02:54:13,420 --> 02:54:19,060
So what would the process be if it's not doing a request for proposal, if it's not doing

2198
02:54:19,060 --> 02:54:26,820
how do we weigh those options and and and and get people.

2199
02:54:26,820 --> 02:54:29,080
Well, like I said, for input.

2200
02:54:29,080 --> 02:54:39,680
I've been so busy doing research and reading documents and backtracking on everything within the water things at Dallas for and we haven't discussed it yet

2201
02:54:39,680 --> 02:54:46,580
I haven't even cracked the shell on who am I going to call at the state and ask these questions or how do I find out what exactly?

2202
02:54:47,260 --> 02:54:52,580
It's great that somebody tells you that, but you can't be penalized. You have to go ask for real documentation.

2203
02:54:53,440 --> 02:54:58,900
And those are the questions I've had for the PD and I tried to precept to go in twice last week

2204
02:54:58,900 --> 02:55:07,840
the week before, and trying to find out like, what is the PUD1, what is your, you're currently

2205
02:55:07,840 --> 02:55:14,980
running that, and I was told that they would not, they would be unwilling to do a proposal,

2206
02:55:15,620 --> 02:55:16,780
which I thought was,

2207
02:55:18,800 --> 02:55:23,000
and I don't know what that is, I mean, I'm saying like you're not willing to

2208
02:55:24,400 --> 02:55:37,120
You don't have confidence in your ability to run it or to show it on paper, or if that's, to me it seemed childish to say that they wouldn't even do it.

2209
02:55:38,280 --> 02:55:40,120
They were unwilling to.

2210
02:55:41,560 --> 02:55:43,220
I'm not speaking for.

2211
02:55:43,420 --> 02:55:45,980
Maybe like we're talking about there are some spits.

2212
02:55:45,980 --> 02:55:54,380
No, I don't want it. What was reported? What was reported? I wasn't reported. I'm not speaking for them because I wasn't there. I don't know.

2213
02:55:56,220 --> 02:55:58,100
I'd like them to speak.

2214
02:55:58,660 --> 02:56:03,800
Well, I think we're having a meeting with them if they're sure they can talk about what it is on.

2215
02:56:04,220 --> 02:56:06,120
That's what the whole idea of a meeting is.

2216
02:56:07,340 --> 02:56:12,360
Because I haven't heard that the utilities interested in even holding it.

2217
02:56:12,360 --> 02:56:13,680
Well, they're going to be worsted.

2218
02:56:13,780 --> 02:56:18,760
And then for Tellsport, for me, too, I know they get upset and they get angry, but just

2219
02:56:18,760 --> 02:56:23,600
like reporting about spills, I know you're passionate and you know it, but as a commissioner,

2220
02:56:24,120 --> 02:56:25,880
I can't take care of say off the street.

2221
02:56:26,080 --> 02:56:30,160
I have to have that report, and if they work with the state and they work through it,

2222
02:56:30,160 --> 02:56:34,460
and then that comes back to me, that's something legally that I have in my hand that I could

2223
02:56:34,460 --> 02:56:38,420
start making reports, I won't call it accusations.

2224
02:56:38,420 --> 02:56:44,740
but then we could start dealing with the reality of what it is. We've always got a stick to that

2225
02:56:44,740 --> 02:56:51,740
legal and what is a true document you can work with. I can't go bug somebody's neighbor just because

2226
02:56:51,740 --> 02:56:53,380
somebody else told me down the street.

2227
02:56:55,840 --> 02:56:59,840
Well, yeah, it's like the old recall conversation that you're

2228
02:56:59,840 --> 02:57:12,200
one, we wanted to maintain the ownership or so get rid of the ownership. You know, two buses and minuses, with that.

2229
02:57:16,960 --> 02:57:23,580
I think that's your first last year, right? I had last year budget. There was $2 million

2230
02:57:23,580 --> 02:57:31,400
life abilities coming up. Like, okay, I'll be out here. Who's going to pay for that liability?

2231
02:57:36,060 --> 02:57:40,060
You know, it's like I've heard several times. Well, you need to sell the system.

2232
02:57:40,700 --> 02:57:46,640
Well, who's going to pay for the system if it's sold? Whoever buys it with that debt, it's going to

2233
02:57:46,640 --> 02:57:55,960
charge somebody from the debt. So how you work out if you're going to sell. I mean, those are kind of

2234
02:57:56,760 --> 02:58:03,200
It's just when you're trying to be transparent and say it out front that this is what I'm thinking and why I'm going forward.

2235
02:58:03,700 --> 02:58:06,060
And then people start shooting arrows because you're being transparent.

2236
02:58:06,440 --> 02:58:10,380
When there's been no discussion, it's just blows me away.

2237
02:58:10,900 --> 02:58:13,180
Now I understand why Garrett government's not transparent.

2238
02:58:13,960 --> 02:58:14,020
Right.

2239
02:58:14,280 --> 02:58:14,540
No.

2240
02:58:14,700 --> 02:58:14,940
Yeah.

2241
02:58:15,920 --> 02:58:18,800
You're trying to say this when I'm doing it and why.

2242
02:58:19,140 --> 02:58:22,480
Instead of people wanting to come sit down with you and have the discussion.

2243
02:58:25,440 --> 02:58:34,390
it's just it's just for me. But that's me. No I mean that that is definitely an option and

2244
02:58:34,390 --> 02:58:40,390
probably the easiest and clearest option is the path that was put forward in the agreement.

2245
02:58:40,670 --> 02:58:48,120
Well that's why I always said that's where I stand on right or wrong. But there's pros and cons

2246
02:58:48,120 --> 02:58:55,960
with every decision, I, I, I, I, every back to there. So if any contractor that came forward

2247
02:58:55,960 --> 02:59:02,260
bid on it, but we didn't transfer our ship and they failed and I'm not just saying

2248
02:59:02,260 --> 02:59:07,040
Dallas or anybody say the one in Oregon or whatever. Oh, we have to go that out. We have no

2249
02:59:07,040 --> 02:59:12,060
choice back. That's what we're trying to avoid. We don't want to be a waste of our treatment.

2250
02:59:12,760 --> 02:59:18,160
Well, we were for 20, 20 years.

2251
02:59:19,160 --> 02:59:21,060
Yeah, I did a bit of a deed.

2252
02:59:21,640 --> 02:59:27,580
And so I'm saying, I mean, the reason why the discussion is there, so we did it for 20 years

2253
02:59:27,580 --> 02:59:30,200
during this really expensive part.

2254
02:59:31,740 --> 02:59:31,860
And.

2255
02:59:31,860 --> 02:59:35,160
And I said, when we started over, tell that down, spate off.

2256
02:59:37,080 --> 02:59:38,780
And the count we paid that down.

2257
02:59:39,100 --> 02:59:39,280
Right.

2258
02:59:39,280 --> 02:59:42,180
and they clicked that account and paid that app.

2259
02:59:42,460 --> 02:59:43,200
You know, I forgot to tell him.

2260
02:59:43,220 --> 02:59:45,160
I mean, that's where his final last,

2261
02:59:45,240 --> 02:59:47,320
everything clicked that account and paid that app.

2262
02:59:47,360 --> 02:59:51,180
Because it came from the papers where from my name, Bill.

2263
02:59:51,500 --> 02:59:52,940
Look right, I'm Bill.

2264
02:59:54,600 --> 02:59:57,720
You know, if it was just that community,

2265
02:59:58,180 --> 02:59:59,980
like normal, paid that.

2266
03:00:01,090 --> 03:00:07,010
We're going to be setting our targets. They pay that debt. It's an old briefcase.

2267
03:00:10,300 --> 03:00:10,300
Yeah.

2268
03:00:11,140 --> 03:00:22,860
And then so if another entity owns the wastewater and then the city incorporates, then do they take ownership.

2269
03:00:23,780 --> 03:00:25,780
That's a question for the state. I know.

2270
03:00:25,780 --> 03:00:27,360
I don't,

2271
03:00:29,470 --> 03:00:32,330
and I may be how you line it up with the contract.

2272
03:00:32,750 --> 03:00:37,530
And like Ron said, Benjamin now is managed by Benjamin S.

2273
03:00:37,630 --> 03:00:39,190
Q. Do you need a manager or something?

2274
03:00:40,030 --> 03:00:43,230
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.

2275
03:00:43,430 --> 03:00:46,410
No, you know, they're still running it internally.

2276
03:00:46,970 --> 03:00:50,910
No, I'm just saying, Benjamin, I'll operate in the way for our project to help me.

2277
03:00:51,170 --> 03:00:52,270
Oh, okay. This one.

2278
03:00:52,270 --> 03:01:03,270
Yeah, just for the county, and then had the utility come in, but that time there was a couple complaints issues at it.

2279
03:01:04,550 --> 03:01:09,810
One was on the Biscard, and the other one was on the Biosolids.

2280
03:01:15,380 --> 03:01:17,880
And, you know, they had one person trying to run both in Biosolids.

2281
03:01:18,220 --> 03:01:20,540
I mean, it was a paraphernal.

2282
03:01:20,780 --> 03:01:22,480
Yeah, no, that's what I'm saying.

2283
03:01:22,480 --> 03:01:28,220
it's much easier for the PD. They have the equipment and the cruise and things like that.

2284
03:01:29,000 --> 03:01:36,640
And so, well they have the resources and I think that's why they've been able to use 1.5 FTE instead of the 3 FTE.

2285
03:01:39,530 --> 03:01:44,130
Yeah, no. Because they have the resources that we need a 3 FTE at one time.

2286
03:01:44,370 --> 03:01:51,790
I would like the PD together to get a say so, but they, well, I have a lot of concerns if they

2287
03:01:53,490 --> 03:01:55,010
I'd like them as of input.

2288
03:01:58,570 --> 03:02:06,570
All right, is there a motion to recess tell Thursday morning at 9.30?

2289
03:02:07,510 --> 03:02:11,530
Mr. Chairman, I'd make a motion to recess tell Thursday at 9.30 for our work.

2290
03:02:12,550 --> 03:02:14,530
I said it. All of us in February, Sam.

2291
03:02:15,130 --> 03:02:15,990
Hi, you can do it.

2292
03:02:15,990 --> 03:02:18,470
Motion please. Thank you for coming.

2293
03:02:19,190 --> 03:02:19,670
Motion.

2294
03:02:23,720 --> 03:02:24,160
Holder.