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Welcome to the Goodyear City Council
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part of this important public process.
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to address city council on both
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chambers.
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tray next to the blank speaker cards. If
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hand it to the city employee at the back
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comment portion of the evening. These
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it's time for you to speak. At that
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Thank you for coming to this meeting and
being an active part of your city. And

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remember, it's a great time to be in
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» Like to call the regular meeting to
order for September 14th, 2026. Uh can I

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get a motion and a second to excuse
council member Beckles?

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Second.

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» I have a motion by Council Member
Campbell and a second by Council Member

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Gillis.
>> Okay. All in favor?

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» I.
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All right. Great to go. Now, please join
me in the pledge of allegiance and

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invocation.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the

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republic for which it stands,
>> one nation under God, indivisible, with

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liberty and justice for all.
>> Almighty Father, I ask that you provide

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wisdom to all of those this council so
we may make wise decisions for our

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community. I also ask that you help heal
this nation which suffers from a lack of

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civility so that we can come together as
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society for the betterment of all.
Please protect our men and women in

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uniform here and overseas from injury
and provide those in the meeting safe

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passage home in your name. Amen.
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Now is the time for the members of the
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council on any non-aggenda items the
jurisdiction of Goodyear city council.

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We have any speaker cards?
>> Yes, mayor. I have one speaker.

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» Come on up.
>> Chris Mclofflin.

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» Sir, before you start, the council will
listen to comments and and take any of

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the following actions. Respond to
criticism. requested the staff

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investigate and report on the matter.
Request that the matter be scheduled on

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a future agenda. Uh each speaker is
limited to three minutes. There'll be a

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I guess a light somewhere over You got
it. All right. When you get to 30

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seconds, sir, you're on. Just tell us uh
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to give an address.
>> Hi, my name is uh Goodyear evening mayor

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and council. My name is Chris McLaclin
and I am a Goodyear resident.

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» Okay.
>> I'm here to address Goodyear's use of

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automated license plate readers um and
flaw cameras. I have recently had a I

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recently had a very cordial conversation
with our police chief. I appreciate him

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taking the time and to hear my concerns
and explain the department's position. I

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respect that conversation, but
fundamentally we still disagree.

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I previously asked that flock cameras be
placed on council agenda for public

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discussion. That has not happened. I
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I went back through city records. I
found that funding of light of license

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plate readers in city budget goes back
to 2019. What I have not found is a

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dedicated public discussion where
residents were asked whether whether we

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wanted the surveillance system or
where's privacy and constitutional

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implications were openly debated.
Approving funding within a much larger

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city budget is not the same as public
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My object my objection go also goes
beyond privacy that this raises a

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fundamental fourth amendment question.
Should the government be able to build

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and search a history of our movements
without a warrant? A license plate being

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visible to the public is not the same
thing as government continuously

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collecting those those observations.
Storing them in a database and making

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our movements searchable.
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In Carpenter, the Supreme Court
recognized that technology can transform

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individual pieces of public information
into an extraordinary detailed record of

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a person's movement and that the Fourth
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technological reality.
Flock and other ALPR systems give

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government capability that once we would
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follow someone, now it can be done
automatically at an enormous scale and

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potentially searched after the fact. The
fourth amendment exists to place limits

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on government surveillance. Technology
should not become a loophole around a

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warrant requirement and the potential
for misuse is real. Policies may

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restrict how these systems are used, but
they cannot eliminate their capacity for

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abuse. I understand why law enforcement
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usefulness of law enforcement is not the
standard by which we measure

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constitutional rights. There has to be a
line for me. creating a searchable

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history of movements of people who are
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government access to that history
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a warrant crosses that line. So, I'm
asking the council to cancel contracts

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and end Goodyear's use of flot cameras.
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is necessary, make that case publicly,
put it on the agenda, let residents

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speak, debate the constitutional
implications in the open. That

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discussion should have been should have
happened before these cameras were

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deployed. cancel the contracts.
>> Thank you. Um, city attorney, city

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manager, I know you've already had the
discussion with the chief. Can you give

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him back and you mentioned some legal
issues in there? I know we have talked

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about this before. Can you draft
something and and make sure that

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gentleman gets it a response?
Okay, we're good.

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» All right. Thank you. Anything else?
>> No, mayor.

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» Okay. Thank you. All right. Will the
city clerk please read the consent

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agenda items one through five by title
only?

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Yes, mayor. Item one, approval of series
12 restaurant liquor license for Fogo de

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Chau Chudoscaria. Item two, approval of
budget amendments and related

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expenditure authority. Item three,
approval of intergovernmental agreements

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with city of Aendell West Valley sex
trafficking task force. Item four,

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approval of the Drug Enforcement Agency
equitable sharing agreement and annual

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certification affidavit. In item five,
adopt resolution number 2026 2539

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authorizing the city manager and/or
their designate to execute a license

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agreement with the Vicental LLC, a
Florida limited liability company, and

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to enter into separate agreements for
inind exchanges which may include fiber

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andor conduit.
>> Thank you. Any speaker cards?

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» No, mayor.
>> Okay. Thank you. Anybody in the audience

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like to speak on the issue? Anybody want
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Can I get a motion? Remember what you
got to say uh visually here now since we

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don't have the thing in front. We got a
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» Second.
>> Did you get that? We got the motion in

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the second.
>> I have a motion by council member Kano

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and a second by council member Campbell.
>> Correct. Thank you. All in favor?

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» I. Any opposed?
Eyes have it. Thank you.

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All right. Let's see. Um we have two
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That's it, right? Going right to the
work session. All right. For the

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discussion only, no action can be taken.
We have two work session items tonight.

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I would like to remind council that
staff will be pausing every so often to

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answer any questions. First item is the
update on the fire resource management

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building. Uh could you go ahead and
please uh introduce yourself for the

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audience?
>> Good evening, Mayor and Council. Paul

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Louise, Fire Chief, and with me tonight
is uh Tim Wayne, Deputy Fire Chief. So,

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tonight we'll be taking you through um
an overview of the Fire Resource

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Management Building. We'll also talk
about the design of the new building,

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plans for construction, and then we'll
both be available for any questions

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afterwards.
Currently staff operate out of fire old

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fire station 181 which is located at
West Yuma Road in Lichfield Road just

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west of that intersection and noted here
on the map.

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Since 1982, Fire Resource Management has
operated out of that small section of

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that fire station. In 2016, firefighters
were actually moved out of that station

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and they colllocated with fire station
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environmental concerns within the
building.

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And then since 2017, resource management
has expanded into the entire old 181

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building. Those environmental concerns
have been rectified and the building has

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been deemed safe since that time. In May
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we actually opened new fire station 181
at 143rd A in Vanurren Street. And then

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2023, a geo bond uh which included a
resource management building was issued

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um by the voters.
Here's some pictures that we'll take you

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through. Um so this is the old fire
station 181. Uh, as noted on the map,

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this has four apparatus bays, which is
very nice from a storing equipment

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standpoint. But as you see, uh, this
building is is old. Um, we are

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maximizing our storage and maximizing
our space, any place that we can find a

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spot to store equipment, we are doing
that currently. In the apparatus bays,

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it is very tight. apparatus is
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and uh the rear apparatus are right up
against the garage doors. So, not a lot

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of space there.
Um we are using as I stated earlier

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every interior space that we can find.
This is some of our emergency medical

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service equipment uh storage throughout
the building. It has to be in an air

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cooled or airond conditioned
environment. Um, so these are actually

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the old dorm rooms and you can see from
the lockers there uh that used to be for

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the personnel. That's where equipment is
now stored.

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Uh, further interior storage. This is uh
some of the personal protective

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equipment and the storage there on the
bins and the racks. You can see that

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there. And then we also have our air
management room which is a clean room.

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Staff does a great job of keeping
contaminants out of that room. But as

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you can see, uh all of these rooms have
been modified uh for their current day

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use.
Uh the new building that we are

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proposing, uh you can see the map here.
Um and that would be located uh just

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west of the future solid or hazardous
waste uh building that public works is

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uh considering. So now I'll turn that
presentation over to Chief Wayne.

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Good [clears throat] evening, Mayor
Council. Tim Wayne, w Chief.

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Um, as you could see, this project, the
CIP 315, sits directly right next to the

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public works facility. Um, this is going
to be MC85 just south. Uh, and then what

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you see is Broadway. On the south side
of the the structure, we'll see SR30 run

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through there. So, just give me an idea
where that sits within the city.

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[snorts]

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Uh so in 2023 the voters approved
through a general obligation bond a

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resource management as part of that uh
that bond went along with the training

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center. Um that was the current project
is sits at 31,140,000.

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Um it's to note the design is currently
in design and we're working through that

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process. the construction phase has been
moved out of the 5-year CIP.

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So, we have allotted uh 1.76 approved in
FY26 for design and the construction

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aspect of that would be 26 million. Um
furniture, fixtures and equipment sits

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at around 3.36 with 965,000 be FFNE and
the balance of that would go to IT cost

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at $2.4 million.
Currently, we're at 60% design. Uh we've

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received comments back from development
services and working through those the

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comments uh with our planning team.
Of note, the uh solid weight solid waste

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facility just to the east that you saw
previous slide um is a is going to

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benefit from this project and the
off-site improvements. approximately

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$1.73 million of off-site improvements
will benefit the public waist solid

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waste facility. Um because they're ahead
of us, we're going to transfer some of

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that money and uh so that piece of the
infrastructure can be completed.

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Uh we are anticipating design to be
complete in 2027 in January.

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So, the overall product description or
project description, we're three 30,000

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square feet working facility sitting on
10.1 acres. Um, this [snorts] is going

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to combine a lot of things throughout
the fire department so we can all come

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under one roof. Um, that'll include
office space, a 40 seat classroom, PPE,

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storage, and all the other things that
we're struggling with currently. Um, we

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did tour multiple partner sites to learn
how best to approach this project. We

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got some great information from our
partners in Surprise and Glendale and uh

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even traveled out to Gilbert to see
their facility as well.

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[snorts] Well, this is just not another
warehouse. This combines a lot of

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services under one roof and promotes uh
a lot of efficiencies and uh will

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address a lot of department needs.
So, kind of zooming out a little bit of

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what that structure looks like. This is
the overall footprint. I'm going to walk

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you through um in a little greater
detail so you have a better idea of some

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of the aspects and the components that
we're planning to provide to the

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structure.
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So, we're super excited about this. Um
as you come in through the front door

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lobby, you uh mainly go into a 40 seat
classroom that has a little kitchenet

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next to it. Um, this this classroom is
set up to be somewhat of a dirty

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classroom, meaning that uh we can do
airpack training in there and all other

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st sorts of training. So, um it gives us
the ability to do quick clean and solid

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services. So, we can turn that over and
make it safe again. But has some

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flexibility. Um it's central location
throughout the city I think is a benefit

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to the city um as a resource. um further
as you move through the the building um

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[snorts] you see fitness center and then
we've also included kind of what's a new

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concept and that's that recharge room uh
slashreovery room where it's a sauna red

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light therapy and cold plunge together
those things are proven to be really

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beneficial for for improvement of sleep
and then rest and recovery.

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So, as we moved through the building a
little bit in this in the center, we

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have two air conditioned bays. Um,
imagine it's 120 degrees and you need to

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swap out into a new truck. Typically,
that happens either in the bays or in a

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parking lot somewhere, a fleet. Um, now
with this facility, we can drive those

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uh apparatus going out of service for
maintenance or repair and swap out into

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a a new apparatus in an air conditioned
setting. In addition to that, so as as

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big the units will roll through there,
you have access to uh airfill, you have

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access to decontamination. And the cool
part is when when we put install new

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equipment onto these vehicles um like
we're going to do in the coming months

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with new air packs, all the trucks can
roll through here, we can pull the old

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equipment out, insert the new equipment
on, and then they're back in service.

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So, it really in increases efficiency
and uh an opportunity to keep our

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firefighters out of the elements.
Sorry, can you go back real quick?

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» So, during design, because of these
drive-through apparatus days, uh the

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group thought it'd be important that we
included a uh ability to host a mechanic

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in this building. Um, while there's not
one funded currently, we we have in

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design a uh a mechanic station, if you
will, office supplies, so that

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individual could do maintenance and
light light um repairs.

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Uh going to the right of that, there's
13 stalls currently. You saw in in the

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previous slides, all that equipment is
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And then there's quite a bit of
equipment that sits outside. So 13 is a

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hefty number. It's not only meets our
needs currently, but it will for

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considerable amount of time. Um before
you move off, it's important to note

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that um we thought about scalability in
the future and ensuring that this

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building is capable of expanding if
necessary at the time where where the

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need arises.

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So a little review of where we're at,
where we came from. Core Construction

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was selected as the Seymar um designed
to be completed in 27. Uh we'll do

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permits, submit permits and get
approvals. That takes a couple months or

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so. Um by spring of 27,
we would like to begin construction in

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July of 27. That construction duration
is approximately 13 months with 12 of it

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being construction and then one month
for FFN and move in.

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So tonight we're asking

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process.

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» Okay, thank you. Any questions? Go
ahead, Vicki.

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» So completion date
completion date would be about 13

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months. Uh so July of 2027. So figure
July or August of 28.

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» 28.
>> Yeah.

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» Okay.
>> Anybody else? Oh, go ahead. Laura,

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» so at the beginning you said that this
was outside of the five-year CIP. So it

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it's not on the plan.
>> And so what you're asking for

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essentially is will we fund it
>> through the normal budget process? the

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budget process.
>> Yes.

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» Okay.
>> All right. Thank you.

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» Anything else? Go ahead, Vice Mayor.
>> Go back here.

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» I guess piggyback on her question. So,
you want to move it up from the fiveyear

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to Sorry, back to the dates here to now.
So, right now, right,

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» it would be in fiscal year 28. So, it
would come through the normal budget

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cycle process. So, we'd start collecting
that information November internally and

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then um be internally reviewed by the
city manager's office and then presented

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to you guys typically in April uh during
the normal budget process.

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» And you're saying we can move it up
because of that bond that we have.

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That's where that
>> So, we're asking for the funding to be

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used. Yes. Because it was identified in
the in the bond.

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» Okay. That's why we're able to to bring
it up because that bond approved got

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approved. Okay. And then I just had some
questions here now as well. Um so all

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the stuff that's going to go in there is
all sitting in that one station now.

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» Yeah. And as Chief Wayne stated, um it
allows for expansion for we're thinking

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30 to 40 maybe 50 years from now. Um the
other piece is a lot of our equipment is

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still outside. So uh things that we
cannot fit inside have to go outside.

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This allows everything to go under one
roof as Chief Wayne stated.

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» Okay. And it's all air the whole
everything both sides everything's air

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conditioned.
>> Correct.

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» The storage of everything. Apparatus.
>> The apparatus bay would be the only one

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that that wouldn't the where they park
the drive bays where Yeah. would be.

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» So it's a covered parking.
>> It's covered. Yes. Inside.

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» Okay. And then what happens to the old
building?

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» Good question. I think that's something
that uh certainly a city manager's

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office CIP would consider uh for future
use.

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» Okay. So it goes back to
maybe for fire maybe further use.

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» It is city owned.
>> Yeah.

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» Y okay.
>> Um and then I'm sure you guys are

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already all over this. So
all it has storage there right now and

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I'm sure does does our warehousing does
it be do we store anything over there

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right now? Is there room over there
right now? We don't

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» is the fire keeps their own storage.
>> Correct.

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» Okay.
And then is there any I know I'm glad we

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have the mechanic. I think that's smart.
Is there any way while we're doing this?

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Seems it's pretty comprehensive, but if
there anything that we can get while

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we're building that that we can also
build. I don't know. I'm thinking like

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the last time we had that area. I'm
thinking the hazardous waste lay down

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area. some other little things that
maybe we can if we can add on there

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while we're building something for
economy to scale potentially or

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something that the the fleet needs. I
don't know. I'm trying to think of other

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ways to maximize what we already have
going on there. So, we get a twofer out

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of it. I think that'd be that'd be
great. But, I like the mechanic being

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there. I think that's smart. Um
especially they can do some work and

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they because the 303 is going to be
right. You're going to go can we pass

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underneath that 303 in the future? the
30.

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» SR 30. SR30. I apologize. SR30.
>> Yeah. Good. Well, yeah, it's going to be

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uh right next to that location. It'll be
coming through uh next to the resource

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center and the solid waste facility.
Right. Right adjacent to it.

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» Okay. And then
>> what how many other fire fire

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departments have a cold plunge and a red
light therapy? It's becoming certainly

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more popular and I think um some are
retrofitting into their current

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locations, but others I think taking
opportunities like we are with new

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construction to try to implement those
programs.

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» Okay. And that's just for uh not just
for maybe it needs some kind of therapy

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like
>> it's typically for recovery. So uh post

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shift not uh there's not a lot of
research or science that supports on

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shift for that. So it's mostly post
shift recovery.

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» Okay. So it' be on their on their time.
Is that what you're saying? Is that

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you're what you're trying to get at?
>> Yes. Okay.

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» Okay. Yeah. There's it's unique. That's
I feel like it's unique. I'm not a

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expert in fire fire uh new fire
buildings, but I'm just curious. And

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then but no, I think it definitely needs
to be done. I think this the training

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will be really great for you guys, too.
Um how many people can fit in there? You

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said 40 people. 40. We would have 40
seats. Yeah. Which is amazing for us

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because we don't have a location like
that

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» to fit that many personnel. And as Chief
Wayne stated, if you're going to do

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dirty training, you know, with air
packs, radios, other types of new

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equipment that we're trying to
implement,

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» um this would be kind of a perfect
location for them. And then it would be

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easily deconed, uh so that it could
still remain clean afterwards. Yes.

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Because you used to do training in that
where where you store everything now,

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right? Correct. I remember when I did my
Citizens Academy, whatever it was called

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at that point that
>> Yeah. Very small room.

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» Yeah. I remember touring it at that when
it was operational.

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» Yeah.
>> Yep.

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» And it was older back then.
>> Yeah.

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» Yeah.
>> Yeah.

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» With the 911 call center and everything
else. So Okay. Okay. No, I think it'll

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definitely I mean obviously it'll help
out. So I'm glad we can I'm glad it's

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funded appropriately and I think it'll
get a lot out of it. But like I said, if

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we can I know you've already done a lot
60% of the design, but if there's

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anything else we can add, attach things
like that that'll help other city

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functions or I know you're building out
for long term 40 50 years, but if

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there's a another section we can add on
there while we're building it that can

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help us in other pinch of department
that we have going on that might be

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helpful helpful, whatever that looks
like. So, all right. Well, thank you. I

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appreciate it.
>> Did you have something?

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» Yeah. Uh
>> well,

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» so
kind of piggybacking off of Councilwoman

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Kano, this
not quite fully funded through the

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budget process yet. This is something
that is

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finishing up in the planning phase and
we should expect to be seen brought

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forward when we begin those budget uh
discussions. I don't know if it's coming

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up at our retreat next month or over the
coming months. This is just something to

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that may be added to our five-year CIP.
Is that correct?

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» Yes, sir. That's what we would propose
to do. And I think there's as the design

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has progressed, the timing of when the
facility was going to be ready to move

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to construction was something we weren't
sure about and I think that's why it

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wasn't included in the CIP. So, as those
details have been finalized, that's what

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we're proposing is that we bring it
forward to you in this in the retreat

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and then the spring in the budget
process to be included in the 28 budget.

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» Okay. Design makes sense to me. I look
forward to the budget discussions.

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» Chief,
wait a minute. Oh, sorry. Chief, we've

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talked about this for over 15 years. I
had had this conversation when I was on

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the public safety committee when we
recommended that we try to bring police

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and fire under one roof for each
department when we had people scattered

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all over Goodyear and we also had the
recommendation for the ambulances and

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several things that we're just now
seeing come to pass. I know that um this

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building has been a problem for us for
many many years. I remember it flooding

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in the kitchen. I remember the mold. I
remember the smell. And I know uh I was

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so grateful when we were able to move
your crews out of that building, but we

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knew we still had the building and we
were going to use it as best we could.

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So, I'm glad to know you've mitigated a
lot of the issues that we had. And I

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think it's a wonderful um time for
Goodyear to put everything together for

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fire. And I I don't necessarily want
more departments put in that building

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because fire is kind of exclusive to
themselves and I don't mean it any other

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way than they keep track of everything
and they have everything right there and

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um it's just really important and it
saves time, it saves money and it really

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saves lives because you're training,
you're doing all of the stuff. Um, I do

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want to know, are you planning on shade
structure, either the sailcloth or

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something over where those truck the bay
where the trucks are because even

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backing them in there and letting them
sit there, they're just going to bake.

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» We are so that that piece I didn't show
the overall footprint on the back side

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of the the facility there is covered
parking um probably 12 spots or so.

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» Good. Now, do you have an office in that
building? Is are we going to have

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actually fire staff on duty there? No
fire staff will be on duty. This this

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will all be uh support personnel. So
>> that's what I meant. I'm sorry.

429
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:15,119
» The office space has uh seating up to
eight spots. So

430
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:18,079
» Okay. Well, I'm excited. I can't wait to
see it. I'll come back and see it when

431
00:37:16,640 --> 00:37:24,280
it's done because y'all certainly
deserve it. It's it's just going to be a

432
00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:24,280
wonderful thing for our fire department.

433
00:37:25,040 --> 00:37:30,560
» Um I'm kind of piggybacking on Brandon's
question. I have a couple of questions

434
00:37:28,560 --> 00:37:35,520
actually. The red light therapy and the
cold plunge. Does this hap does this

435
00:37:33,119 --> 00:37:38,480
help at all? Especially the cold plunge.
You're talking about them doing this

436
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:42,960
after they've been on shift, been at a
fire, done whatever because I'm big on

437
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:48,079
the cancer issues with firefighters.
Does this help at all eliminate some of

438
00:37:45,200 --> 00:37:51,440
that or help with some of that, you
know, or do we not know the findings of

439
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:55,920
that at this point?
>> I don't I think the research is still

440
00:37:53,440 --> 00:38:02,560
pretty new. Um from a cool down
perspective on shift uh what the science

441
00:37:59,839 --> 00:38:09,839
does show is some type of immersion just
of their forearms actually to cool them

442
00:38:05,359 --> 00:38:15,200
down but this uh is more inclusive of
their total body wellness. Okay.

443
00:38:12,160 --> 00:38:18,560
» Not specifically after one or a certain
disease process. So

444
00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:22,640
» So no chemicals. We have not caught
gotten to that point where we know that

445
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:27,760
it helps take care of that. No, we we've
seen some uh evidence with the saunas

446
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:32,880
that that can be very very beneficial.
Open up and clean the pores out. Um but

447
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:34,960
that that I think still is being tested.
>> And there are saunas in here as well.

448
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:40,720
» Yes.
>> Okay. Um the that's part of the red

449
00:38:37,839 --> 00:38:48,560
light therapy. Okay. All right. Um, and
so what does what does this cost for

450
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:52,079
that particular that the that particular
red light therapy sauna that you know

451
00:38:50,720 --> 00:38:56,800
that whole thing? What does that cost
for that room? Do you know?

452
00:38:54,400 --> 00:39:01,839
» Yeah.
>> Yeah. I Yeah, good point. I think

453
00:38:59,119 --> 00:39:08,560
anywhere probably between 20 25,000 for
just for the equipment.

454
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:14,160
» Can I Can I finish? So, so what we're
saying is is that we're talking $20,000

455
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:18,320
in for the people that are listening to
this in how much does a fire station

456
00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,839
cost now? $18 million roughly.
>> Roughly.

457
00:39:18,720 --> 00:39:24,000
» Roughly.
>> It's amazing we're up to that amount,

458
00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:27,520
but that's understandable. So, $20,000
really isn't a lot when we're talking

459
00:39:26,000 --> 00:39:31,359
about how much the final cost of the
fire station is going to be to have the

460
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:34,240
welfare of the firefighters. Correct.
Correct. That's what we're talking. Yep.

461
00:39:32,720 --> 00:39:36,800
» That's what I wanted people to hear out
I think it's a wonderful idea and I

462
00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:43,359
think this is going to be a great
station station. Thank you very much.

463
00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:48,720
» Well, I also wanted to piggyback on uh
comments that coun or vice mayor Hampton

464
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:53,280
made um regarding the construction and
then going on expanding into public

465
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:59,200
works. I mean the bond is for public
safety. I don't think we have any bond

466
00:39:55,920 --> 00:40:04,720
for the public works facility do we?
>> Okay. And if we are if we are

467
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:08,480
contemplating that as an option, we
would discuss that at the budget

468
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:12,560
hearing.
>> That's right. Yes. I I think uh for the

469
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:15,760
solid waste facility, I think there is
some enterprise funding for that, but I

470
00:40:14,240 --> 00:40:17,680
do need to check on those and we'll be
able to bring that back to you as part

471
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:21,680
of the budget process.
>> All right. Because I thinking funding

472
00:40:20,240 --> 00:40:24,560
sources are separate.
>> Yeah, it wouldn't be a a geo bond like

473
00:40:23,599 --> 00:40:26,079
we're talking about for the fire
station. It' be a different funding

474
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,839
stream.
>> All right. Thank you.

475
00:40:27,359 --> 00:40:33,359
» Do you have something to add? just piggy
back in on that then. Yeah, that's why I

476
00:40:31,359 --> 00:40:37,680
brought it up is just if if there is an
option opportunity that we can help out

477
00:40:36,000 --> 00:40:41,200
another department while we're there,
then while we are recycled up, ready to

478
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:45,520
go with this construction company that
there might be a benefit, but thank you.

479
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:48,960
» Right. To look at them together as one
project potentially of how you can try

480
00:40:47,119 --> 00:40:51,760
to maximize the space.
>> We can certainly look at that.

481
00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:56,480
» Great discussion. You know, when you
bring that back, we have a five-year um

482
00:40:53,839 --> 00:41:00,160
CIP already funded. So, when you come
back to us, um either we're gonna have

483
00:40:58,240 --> 00:41:04,640
some extra cash that we can throw into
that five-year CIP or we got to move

484
00:41:02,240 --> 00:41:07,920
some things around inside that I mean
that's the mechanics when it comes to

485
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:10,640
budget time to get this funded. But I
think if you got the design out there

486
00:41:09,440 --> 00:41:14,720
that doesn't make any sense to let it
sit around and not build a thing. So, we

487
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:19,760
need to find the way to make that at
least in my humble opinion make that

488
00:41:16,720 --> 00:41:25,520
happen. So, okay. Thank Thank you. All
right. Next up, let's see. uh receive a

489
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:32,160
strategic plan update on efforts to
increase the use of nonportable water

490
00:41:28,319 --> 00:41:37,920
sources for park irrigation.
If you would please introduce yourselves

491
00:41:35,119 --> 00:41:42,400
for the public that's watching.
>> Well, good evening mayor and council.

492
00:41:39,680 --> 00:41:46,079
I'm Rachel Garcia, deputy city manager.
Today, we're going to be receiving an

493
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:50,800
update on the city's strategic plan
action item related to increasing the

494
00:41:48,079 --> 00:41:55,760
use of non-pottable water for park
irrigation. And I'm pleased to welcome

495
00:41:53,760 --> 00:42:00,800
David Lopez, our new parks and
recreation director, who be who will be

496
00:41:58,319 --> 00:42:05,200
presenting today with Barb Chapel, our
water services director. David and Barb

497
00:42:03,200 --> 00:42:10,400
are going to walk us through the current
non-potable water uses, potential

498
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:14,720
opportunities for expansion, and the key
considerations involved, including water

499
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:19,920
availability, infrastructure needs, and
costs. There is no immediate fiscal

500
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:24,160
impact or funding request associated
with today's discussion. Today is an

501
00:42:22,319 --> 00:42:28,319
opportunity for council to receive
information and provide direction to

502
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:32,640
staff on opportunities that warrant
further evaluation. As those

503
00:42:30,720 --> 00:42:36,720
opportunities are evaluated, the staff
will develop more detailed information

504
00:42:34,319 --> 00:42:41,280
on potential project costs and funding
needs. And then the hope is that this

505
00:42:39,359 --> 00:42:45,839
information may be brought forward
through the normal budget process and

506
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:50,319
capital improvement program process as
specific projects are considered. Um so

507
00:42:48,720 --> 00:42:54,880
we hope to come back through that budget
process with more information after

508
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:59,480
today. Um with that, I will turn it over
to David and Barb. Thank you.

509
00:42:59,599 --> 00:43:05,440
Good evening, mayor and members of
council. David Lopez, director of parks

510
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:08,800
and recreation. A quick overview of
tonight's agenda. We're going to go

511
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:12,800
through this item as a strategic plan
goal of safe and vibrant community.

512
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:16,560
We're also going to look at how parks
and recreation currently utilizes

513
00:43:14,720 --> 00:43:19,920
alternative water sources within our
parks and trail system. We're going to

514
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:24,160
look at expanding into some future
opportunities to make our system more

515
00:43:21,599 --> 00:43:28,480
sustainable. Uh we're going to also be
fully transparent about some challenges

516
00:43:26,079 --> 00:43:32,079
and how we can overcome those. We'll
also be comparing costs between the

517
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:36,960
various water providers as well as
getting your feedback on a sustainable

518
00:43:34,560 --> 00:43:42,640
path forward.
So, uh you can suffer me. I'm going to

519
00:43:39,839 --> 00:43:46,720
read verbatim our strategic plan update
uh of increasing city non-pottable water

520
00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:51,599
uses. develop strategies to transition
parks and recreation department's water

521
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:55,839
usage to non-pottable sources where
possible. Um there's a ton that goes

522
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:59,440
into unpacking this and we've learned a
ton of lessons for what we've already

523
00:43:57,760 --> 00:44:04,720
observed in utilizing it within our
current system. But I am going to pass

524
00:44:01,839 --> 00:44:08,960
the uh mic and keyboard over to my
colleague who can also who will be

525
00:44:06,720 --> 00:44:14,240
laying the foundation for tonight's
presentation in terms of uh some

526
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:18,560
definitions that we'll be using.
Thank you. I'm Barb Chapel, water

527
00:44:17,119 --> 00:44:20,079
services director.
>> Is it not on?

528
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:26,800
» Is it on?
>> Oh, yeah. Okay. Thank you.

529
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:30,880
» So, um, just kind of for reference as
we're speaking this evening and David's

530
00:44:28,960 --> 00:44:35,760
going to do the most uh majority of this
presentation, I wanted to go over some

531
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:40,800
terms that we use and we talk about um
portable water. I just want to make that

532
00:44:38,319 --> 00:44:45,760
clear. that is our drinking water that's
within the distribution system that's

533
00:44:43,280 --> 00:44:50,000
protected and that portable water could
be from the city as the service

534
00:44:47,599 --> 00:44:55,200
provider. We have um EPCOR, we have
Liberty services. It's all portable when

535
00:44:53,119 --> 00:45:00,880
it's in the distribution system. That is
the drinking water supply. There are

536
00:44:57,520 --> 00:45:05,680
non-potable um supplies.
Those are ones that were not man for

537
00:45:02,880 --> 00:45:11,839
human consumption, but they're perfectly
safe for things like irrigation and

538
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:17,200
other uses. And in that nonpotable kind
of bucket, we have a few options. We

539
00:45:14,079 --> 00:45:24,240
have reclaimed water. That is water that
was once waste water collected from our

540
00:45:20,960 --> 00:45:28,000
has been used. It's been collected and
treated through a water reclamation

541
00:45:26,240 --> 00:45:33,839
facility and is safe for the
environment. So that that is um a type

542
00:45:31,440 --> 00:45:40,640
of non-potable that is at our disposal.
We also have um irrigation districts

543
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:45,280
within our limits where we sit on some
historical

544
00:45:42,160 --> 00:45:51,920
irrigation uh lands that were once
agriculture and there's resources tied

545
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:57,040
to those lands. Um, we have remediated
water. And I just for clarification, the

546
00:45:55,040 --> 00:46:03,599
difference between remediated and
reclaimed water is remediated water is

547
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:09,599
groundwater that had a contaminant like
one of the super fund sites. So, we have

548
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:14,240
a PGA North and PGA South are two of our
Phoenix Goodyear airport super fund

549
00:46:11,520 --> 00:46:20,640
sites. So, they remove water and treat
it for the contaminant of concern and it

550
00:46:17,599 --> 00:46:26,079
can be reused. So, so that's when we say
remediated water or we talk about the

551
00:46:23,200 --> 00:46:32,240
super fund um providers, we're talking
about that supply, not not reclaimed

552
00:46:29,359 --> 00:46:36,880
water that was once wastewater.
Just wanted to make that distinction. Um

553
00:46:34,720 --> 00:46:41,920
and so, um again, as I mentioned, we
have several providers. The city of

554
00:46:38,560 --> 00:46:47,440
Goodyear primarily south of I10. We have
the Phoenix Goodyear airport south super

555
00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:52,560
fun site. Those are our partners with
Goodyear Tire and Rubber. Um we have the

556
00:46:50,079 --> 00:46:57,680
Aendale School District owns and
operates an irrigation well that is at

557
00:46:55,760 --> 00:47:02,480
our dis that we we have some agreements
with them. We have um our partners in

558
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:08,240
Estraa.
They have the reclaimed system that runs

559
00:47:05,920 --> 00:47:13,599
the southern part of the city and so
they are a provider for those areas. In

560
00:47:11,119 --> 00:47:18,640
the south, we have the Roosevelt
Irrigation District, which is one of our

561
00:47:16,160 --> 00:47:23,280
um districts that we're we have lands
in. And um Liberty Utilities, I crossed

562
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:27,200
over that one. Sorry. But Liberty
Utilities is another one of our

563
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:32,800
providers. And they have both um
reclaimed and portable supplies just

564
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:36,880
like the city of Goodyear does. Um and I
don't think you have any parks in EPCO

565
00:47:34,480 --> 00:47:42,960
yet. Maybe never. I don't know if
they're in the plans, but

566
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:47,520
Thank you, Barb.
>> Okay, so um we want to talk about what

567
00:47:45,599 --> 00:47:51,119
success could look like in this plan's
implementation. So, we're going to

568
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:55,680
triage those opportunities for
non-pottable sources within our system.

569
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:59,760
We'll also need to coordinate with those
respective water providers to ensure

570
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:05,680
that uh it's feasible with their
infrastructure. And then we're going to

571
00:48:01,839 --> 00:48:09,760
look at cost uh and the reliability, the
availability of each source. and then

572
00:48:08,079 --> 00:48:14,319
get some of your feedback on phase
implementation to include in future pro

573
00:48:11,839 --> 00:48:18,160
park projects u that'll be coming in the
next few months as well as some

574
00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:22,559
operational opportunities to be
considered within the annual budget

575
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:26,240
process.
So here's a quick snapshot of our park

576
00:48:24,480 --> 00:48:30,000
system with our four community parks. As
a reminder, community parks are those

577
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:33,599
that are 30 plus acres. Uh they're
packed with amenities such as ball

578
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:37,280
fields and maybe splash pads and
playgrounds. Your neighborhood parks are

579
00:48:35,680 --> 00:48:41,040
smaller. We've got 11 of those within
our system, but there's a lot of water

580
00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:47,520
demands for some of those green spaces.
Specialty parks such as uh the GSQ Plaza

581
00:48:45,359 --> 00:48:51,359
and even the dog parks, we've got six of
those. And linear parks like Bullard

582
00:48:49,040 --> 00:48:56,720
Wash and the extension project that's
underway now.

583
00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:59,440
So when we talk about uh our current
water resources, we just wanted to

584
00:48:58,000 --> 00:49:05,200
provide some framework of what we're
already using and also we want to uh use

585
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:09,280
these as case studies for how we can
sustainably move forward. We've got a

586
00:49:07,440 --> 00:49:14,319
lot of data so we can make some informed
decisions. So here are the existing

587
00:49:12,079 --> 00:49:17,680
alternative water locations and we'll go
into detail for each of these sites

588
00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:22,400
momentarily but we have Foothills
Community Park, Lomolinda Rio, the Reds

589
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:28,079
and Guardians development complexes as
well as Bullard Wash Park 2.

590
00:49:26,319 --> 00:49:32,000
So for Foothills Community Park, we're
looking at about a 20 acre park that is

591
00:49:30,079 --> 00:49:36,720
rich with athletic fields. It's got a
playground, but uh we have a heavy

592
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:43,960
reliance upon water for for this park's
health and safety. And that water

593
00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:43,960
provider is Estraa non-pottable.

594
00:49:44,240 --> 00:49:49,040
Next we have Lind Linda Park which is
located in historic Goodyear. It's about

595
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:52,880
5 acres. It's one of those neighborhood
parks that I had mentioned previously.

596
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:58,319
Again, ton of green space and this one
relies on uh Aendale School District

597
00:49:55,440 --> 00:50:03,520
wellwater.
Rio Po Park is about 14 acres. This park

598
00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:09,440
does have a water feature as well as an
irrigation pond that we use to uh boost

599
00:50:06,800 --> 00:50:14,559
into and then uh pump out into the
irrigation distribution. This is on

600
00:50:11,599 --> 00:50:18,599
utilities uh for this utility source is
uh Liberty non-pottable

601
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:26,240
for the Reds and Guardians development
complexes. uh this is a part of the

602
00:50:22,720 --> 00:50:31,440
overall uh ballpark footprint and this
uses a portfolio of three sources of

603
00:50:28,240 --> 00:50:35,359
water namely PGA south remediated water
city of goodyear potable as well as

604
00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:39,839
reclaimed I would say 90 to 95% of this
is on the remediated water supply but we

605
00:50:37,599 --> 00:50:43,079
have to have uh the other two sources as
a contingency

606
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:51,440
for Bullard Wash Park phase 2 it's about
31 acres it's mostly used as a linear

607
00:50:49,119 --> 00:50:56,240
park system for for trails hiking bike,
but there's a ton of green space within

608
00:50:53,520 --> 00:51:01,200
the system that has to be uh kept
healthy and alive. This one is on

609
00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:06,319
Liberty Utilities non-potable.
So, right now with our existing acreage,

610
00:51:03,520 --> 00:51:11,359
uh our non-pottable uh irrigation
acreage is about 27%. As our system

611
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:16,960
expands and grows and we consider some
opportunities, we think we can get it

612
00:51:13,359 --> 00:51:22,720
reasonably up to about 75% of of our uh
irrigated acreage on a non-pottable or

613
00:51:19,200 --> 00:51:26,000
alternative water source.
Some current challenges that we're

614
00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:30,000
working through are reliability,
availability, and cost. And I'll go into

615
00:51:28,000 --> 00:51:34,079
definition of each of these, but these
are important to consider as we look at

616
00:51:31,839 --> 00:51:38,559
these opportunities.
So for reliability we have to look at uh

617
00:51:37,040 --> 00:51:42,720
with some of our existing sources
disruptions due to inability inability

618
00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:48,079
to meet quality requirements especially
when it comes to the reclaimed water and

619
00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:54,480
uh treating that those saline levels
being high have adverse effects on our

620
00:51:50,720 --> 00:51:58,800
uh turf and soil and also in the event
that they're not able to meet our water

621
00:51:56,400 --> 00:52:03,520
quality standards. There's disruption in
service and and that they can't uh

622
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:07,280
distribute water to us. And so we have
to find alternative we we got to have

623
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:11,240
the alternative sources available and on
hand should that occur.

624
00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:20,400
Also availability. So when we look at um
you know our complete park system we

625
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:26,160
have to look at those adjacent water
sources where they're distributing to as

626
00:52:23,839 --> 00:52:30,559
well as some infrastructure and
containment. So when it comes to

627
00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:35,280
irrigation water for instance, we have
to have some containment whether it be

628
00:52:33,119 --> 00:52:40,079
groundwater storage, elevated storage or
a pond system because you're boosting

629
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:44,160
out of the reservoir into the holding
tank and then you've got to have enough

630
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:48,119
PSI to distribute this water effectively
through your irrigation system.

631
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:54,160
And with cost, we have to look at the
ongoing cost of potable water. We know

632
00:52:52,720 --> 00:52:57,520
this is probably our most expensive
source and also we want to ensure we

633
00:52:55,920 --> 00:53:02,160
divert it back to the residents for
human consumption but also there's a

634
00:52:59,520 --> 00:53:06,240
associated cost uh increase or at least
onetime increase for some of these

635
00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:10,000
alternative sources because you have to
build that infrastructure with each of

636
00:53:07,599 --> 00:53:16,240
these projects.
So some future opportunities that we've

637
00:53:12,240 --> 00:53:20,000
identified uh working with the RIID uh
water providers for some adjacent sites.

638
00:53:18,640 --> 00:53:25,359
Again, I'll go into more details
momentarily, but we also see some uh

639
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:30,240
upside and opportunity with increasing
our our capacity and our production for

640
00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:34,559
Goodyear non-pottable water in the
future and also extending what we're

641
00:53:32,800 --> 00:53:39,119
currently using for the PJ South
remediated water.

642
00:53:37,119 --> 00:53:44,480
So again, here's a quick snapshot of our
park system and uh those parks that are

643
00:53:42,000 --> 00:53:49,520
on those alternative sources that we see
this opportunity

644
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:53,680
and some a bit of details about each of
these. So with Goodyear Community Park,

645
00:53:51,520 --> 00:53:57,599
it's occuring on Liberty Pottable Water.
Uh I apologize for discrepancy that may

646
00:53:55,760 --> 00:54:00,977
be in your packets. We had this marked
earlier as Goodyear water supply, but

647
00:53:59,680 --> 00:54:04,559
this is actually on Liberty Pottable.
[clears throat]

648
00:54:01,599 --> 00:54:10,240
And um there's with the cost of Liberty
potable um or even non-pottable versus

649
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:12,800
RIID, there's not a huge savings, but
there is some savings to be realized.

650
00:54:11,599 --> 00:54:17,280
So, we would probably technically need
to to check the uh lower operational

651
00:54:15,040 --> 00:54:21,599
costs on this one. There's a one-time
cost for um for the pipelines for

652
00:54:19,839 --> 00:54:26,960
distribution, but we think those ongoing
costs will be will be cheaper for uh

653
00:54:24,960 --> 00:54:29,839
Goodyear recreation campus phases one
and two. phase one. We would love to

654
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:34,880
retrofit and we're looking for
opportunities to build a sustainable

655
00:54:32,000 --> 00:54:39,680
path forward for water usage at the at
phase two which is actually coming

656
00:54:37,119 --> 00:54:44,559
before you all for an update uh next
month and we'll be able to dive into

657
00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:49,760
more of those details in terms of costs
and opportunities

658
00:54:47,440 --> 00:54:54,720
with Rio Po Park. It's on Liberty
Utilities non-pottable. We see this

659
00:54:52,079 --> 00:54:58,000
although it's non-pottable there is a
somewhat of an issue when it comes to

660
00:54:56,160 --> 00:55:01,680
the reliability of that water for
instance if it's not ready if we don't

661
00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:06,880
have the quantities that we need for
distribution because it doesn't meet the

662
00:55:03,839 --> 00:55:10,960
quality standards um then it's just out
of service and you know ultimately the

663
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:15,040
park system could suffer because of that
limitation that could be short up again

664
00:55:13,359 --> 00:55:20,880
on a case-byase basis we want to
consider all options before us so

665
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:26,319
Bullard Wash park uh two is currently on
Liberty Utilities non-p potable RID is

666
00:55:24,400 --> 00:55:30,319
an adjacent water source and we see this
as a sustainable sustainable path

667
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:34,559
forward as well. Uh although same thing
with the cost considerations on that

668
00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:40,559
because it is really cheap source with
Liberty non-pottable even versus the RI

669
00:55:38,319 --> 00:55:44,800
with Rosco Dog Park. Uh this is a site
that we have earmarked as a possible

670
00:55:42,720 --> 00:55:48,079
customer for Goodyear non-pottable water
system. As that systems expands it's

671
00:55:46,720 --> 00:55:54,319
it's really close to the existing
facility. And last but not least,

672
00:55:50,480 --> 00:55:59,440
Goodyear ballpark. Uh we would love to
expand our utilization of remediated

673
00:55:56,720 --> 00:56:04,319
water to also provide service to the
ballpark

674
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:09,680
and this would be substantially cheaper.
So with cost comparisons by supplier, we

675
00:56:07,520 --> 00:56:14,400
have a quick illustration and I I've
touched on these already a bit earlier,

676
00:56:11,119 --> 00:56:18,400
but uh I'll just give you all time to
sort of compare some of these costs. I

677
00:56:16,400 --> 00:56:22,400
won't go through each one of them, but
uh you can see that ultimately potable

678
00:56:20,079 --> 00:56:27,720
water is substantially more expensive
than some of these alter all of these

679
00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:27,720
alternative sources.

680
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:35,599
» Okay. So for next steps, we want again
we want to prioritize those

681
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:41,680
opportunities as they come up in the uh
those uh that five-year CIP uh park

682
00:56:39,359 --> 00:56:46,160
project update. We've got one coming up
next month with GRC phase two. Again, we

683
00:56:44,400 --> 00:56:50,559
if we identify the opportunity, the next
step is to to coordinate with our water

684
00:56:47,760 --> 00:56:56,400
partner to ensure that all of our uh
systems are aligned and the timing is

685
00:56:52,799 --> 00:56:59,520
right for uh for their benefit as well.
Uh we see, you know, potentially good

686
00:56:58,400 --> 00:57:02,799
partnerships. We've been in discussion
with some of these groups such as

687
00:57:00,640 --> 00:57:06,160
Roosevelt and, you know, both parks and
and the irrigation district being in the

688
00:57:04,319 --> 00:57:10,000
forever business. They're losing their a
partners. We're expanding our park

689
00:57:08,160 --> 00:57:13,119
system and so we see a ton of upside and
opportunity there. And then with

690
00:57:11,599 --> 00:57:16,640
implementation, again, that'll be on a
case-by case basis that we'll bring back

691
00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:20,720
for your consideration, whether it be in
the CIP update process or the annual

692
00:57:18,799 --> 00:57:23,920
budget process.
And at this time, uh, Barb and I are

693
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:29,119
available to take any questions that you
all may have.

694
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:33,200
» Okay, who's up?
>> No, I'll just go around this way. How's

695
00:57:31,040 --> 00:57:38,640
that? Go ahead.
>> Sounds good. Thank you, mayor. Um, I I

696
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:44,160
definitely support the direction and
look forward to the discussions going

697
00:57:40,799 --> 00:57:47,839
ahead. Um,
I guess

698
00:57:46,559 --> 00:57:51,599
one of the things I want to make sure
we're

699
00:57:49,359 --> 00:57:58,079
concerned about when moving to non-p
portable water will be probably the

700
00:57:54,000 --> 00:58:02,960
salinity in it. Um,
you know, we do have some nice parks

701
00:58:00,960 --> 00:58:08,799
expanding. We want to build nice parks.
We want our communities to have nice

702
00:58:04,559 --> 00:58:13,440
parks. My concern with, you know, heavy
volume of salt and there is potentially

703
00:58:11,520 --> 00:58:17,599
you water the grass, you still kill the
grass. You water the tree, you just you

704
00:58:15,359 --> 00:58:23,760
still kill the trees. Is making sure
that we don't just

705
00:58:20,079 --> 00:58:28,640
do it for the sake of saving every penny
that we possibly can,

706
00:58:26,319 --> 00:58:34,319
but at the same time, moving in that
direction is a good thing. So I I just

707
00:58:30,400 --> 00:58:38,240
kind of wanted to register that as we
like the previous

708
00:58:36,559 --> 00:58:42,720
discussion
head towards the budget phase. I just

709
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:47,040
kind of wanted to throw that out there.
It's not really a question. It's a

710
00:58:44,799 --> 00:58:50,040
concern that I have. That's all
>> ready.

711
00:58:50,400 --> 00:58:56,960
» Um where would this pond be that we're
talking about for

712
00:58:55,119 --> 00:59:02,960
overflow or whatever? Where would that
be held? Or would that water be held?

713
00:59:00,000 --> 00:59:05,760
» This be for GRC phase 2 or
>> the pond you were talking about,

714
00:59:04,480 --> 00:59:08,720
whatever it was you were talking about
just a few minutes ago about where water

715
00:59:07,520 --> 00:59:12,880
would be held.
>> Oh, that would be if we had a if we had

716
00:59:10,960 --> 00:59:15,839
opportunity to use uh irrigation
district water, we would need a

717
00:59:14,000 --> 00:59:18,960
containment pond. So, that would vary by
site and some opportunities. It's, you

718
00:59:17,599 --> 00:59:23,119
know, retrofitting may not be feasible
for some of the existing parks, but for

719
00:59:21,200 --> 00:59:26,799
the construction of a new site, that
would be, you know, something identified

720
00:59:24,720 --> 00:59:31,599
in the schematic phase. And so, for
instance, next week with GRC phase 2, we

721
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:33,920
will show some a couple of concepts that
would demonstrate that.

722
00:59:32,640 --> 00:59:38,000
» Would there be more than one of those
around the city or just would be there

723
00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:41,599
reason would there be a reason to be
more than one? There could potentially

724
00:59:39,760 --> 00:59:46,559
on on a case-by case basis there is one
existing with Rio Park and um that it's

725
00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:49,839
it's seen as a water feature but really
it's an irrigation holding pond.

726
00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:54,960
» Okay. Do they have any trouble with
mosquitoes or anything with that kind of

727
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:59,440
» the actual water feature uh is going to
uh basically airate the water and so

728
00:59:57,200 --> 01:00:02,799
» that we don't have that. Okay. And it's
really nice to hear you finally come

729
01:00:00,960 --> 01:00:07,440
before us and say something.
>> I'm really glad. Thank you,

730
01:00:04,559 --> 01:00:13,040
» Wally.
I just want the

731
01:00:10,400 --> 01:00:19,520
the golf courses and any of the public
uh grassy area just use the non-per. It

732
01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:22,400
just makes sense and we we know that we
have certain areas that we have to put

733
01:00:20,799 --> 01:00:26,960
in a water fountain and that's good
water, but it just makes sense to do

734
01:00:24,480 --> 01:00:34,880
that. And because we're in the desert,
as much water features as we can do that

735
01:00:30,559 --> 01:00:40,960
will enhance what we have. I would like
to see that just because every, you

736
01:00:36,880 --> 01:00:47,920
know, the for the extension of our
um Goodyear recreation campus, they

737
01:00:45,520 --> 01:00:51,599
wanted to do a fishing pond and I under
I can get that because Leville Park has

738
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:55,839
a nice fishing pond and the kids go over
there and fish a couple times a year and

739
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:59,920
that's maybe not feasible to us, but
maybe we can put a little water feature

740
01:00:58,240 --> 01:01:05,839
in there or something just something
unique. So, thank you for bringing it

741
01:01:03,280 --> 01:01:11,040
forward. Barb's on on it right on the
top. I'll tell you,

742
01:01:07,599 --> 01:01:15,640
» Laura, anything.
>> Go ahead.

743
01:01:12,240 --> 01:01:15,640
» And now I'll come.

744
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,232
» Thank you. [laughter]

745
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:27,440
» All right, let's go to slide four. Uh,
if you don't mind, we've got um the

746
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:31,280
potable and non-pottable water. And then
uh I didn't realize those three columns

747
01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:38,559
below are actually a definition when
when I got my packet. Uh but I um

748
01:01:37,040 --> 01:01:43,040
here
the potable water is obviously the most

749
01:01:40,559 --> 01:01:47,839
expensive one and you put that on
another slide. You didn't necessarily

750
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:51,520
put a a cost for the non-pottable water.
But one of the things I wanted to um

751
01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:56,559
share with anybody interested in the
public and surprisingly people are

752
01:01:53,599 --> 01:02:03,920
interested in water um discussions is
the fact that um there is a value to

753
01:01:59,040 --> 01:02:07,920
non-pottable water. So uh besides for uh
using it for irrigation, it gives us

754
01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:13,920
opportunities to put it back in the
ground and get credits for it. So it's

755
01:02:10,559 --> 01:02:18,720
it's not something that um doesn't have
a value. It does have a value. So um

756
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:22,160
considering when we are looking at
irrigation

757
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:26,480
uh if we're putting it on turf then
we're not getting credits for it to put

758
01:02:23,920 --> 01:02:32,240
it. So it need that needs to be um a
conscious decision and the this has been

759
01:02:30,319 --> 01:02:36,240
talked about before from the dis. I
mean, the water department is the

760
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:41,599
largest water water user in the city of
Goodyear, obviously. Um, and you know,

761
01:02:39,359 --> 01:02:48,960
that is taxpayer money that pays the
water bills, but uh certainly quality of

762
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:55,359
life, uh, sports, just amenities, people
want and need parks and recreation. And

763
01:02:52,000 --> 01:03:01,359
that is when we look at that, we want to
budget our water also. I mean, not

764
01:02:58,480 --> 01:03:07,119
everything can have all the water and
and so we have to uh kind of pick and

765
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:14,880
choose. So, I just want to clarify that
um the non-pottable water um does have a

766
01:03:11,520 --> 01:03:21,280
a monetary value or a
I guess maybe a statutory value as well.

767
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:28,240
Um but it is we're very fortunate that
we also have these other uh sources such

768
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:31,920
as the Roosevelt irrigation district and
um although we're not thrilled that we

769
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:37,440
have the remediated water the reason for
it but the fact that we can actually use

770
01:03:34,240 --> 01:03:44,200
that and for for a large um water users
is really important. So if we look at

771
01:03:41,200 --> 01:03:44,200
slide

772
01:03:44,960 --> 01:03:52,640
um 12,
until today I thought that this was an

773
01:03:51,119 --> 01:03:58,880
HOA
park. I had no idea it was a city park.

774
01:03:56,640 --> 01:04:04,799
Um, in the time that I've been on
council, I know that there was one time

775
01:04:01,760 --> 01:04:09,920
that I I went there on city business and
it was precoid and we were going to

776
01:04:07,920 --> 01:04:14,319
different neighborhood associations or
HOAs. they were doing, I don't know,

777
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:18,720
like a good neighbor day and we stopped
there and

778
01:04:17,119 --> 01:04:25,760
that's the only time I've been there. I
thought it was a HOA park and um and uh

779
01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:29,599
so it was kind of a surprise to find out
that it's a city park because we don't

780
01:04:27,440 --> 01:04:34,319
program it as far as I can tell. I don't
know that we've ever actually done

781
01:04:32,559 --> 01:04:39,440
anything there. I know parking is
limited to neighborhood parking, but

782
01:04:36,319 --> 01:04:45,599
it's a, you know, 14 14 acres. I mean,
it's it's definitely a different size,

783
01:04:41,599 --> 01:04:50,319
but um I appreciated meeting with Keany
and Rachel today to go over this that

784
01:04:48,160 --> 01:04:55,520
that was really helpful because yeah,
the question was, does this this water

785
01:04:52,720 --> 01:05:00,039
fulfill a purpose? Can you elaborate on
what this water does?

786
01:05:00,559 --> 01:05:04,559
» Yeah, this is actually used to irrigate
the park. So, it's

787
01:05:03,920 --> 01:05:08,880
» which park?
>> Uh Rio Pose. So all the green space

788
01:05:06,799 --> 01:05:13,920
there is is what it's used for. It's
it's pumped out of there and distributed

789
01:05:10,559 --> 01:05:19,760
through the irrigation system.
>> Okay. I know it it's a is the is the

790
01:05:16,640 --> 01:05:23,359
park itself more than 14 acres or does
the 14 acres include the water? I it's

791
01:05:22,319 --> 01:05:26,559
not clear.
>> Yeah, I'm not sure.

792
01:05:24,079 --> 01:05:29,520
» It's a pretty big water feature.
>> My assumption is it includes the

793
01:05:28,000 --> 01:05:32,079
footprint for the water containment area
as well within this, you know, the

794
01:05:31,039 --> 01:05:36,359
overall space.
>> Okay.

795
01:05:33,359 --> 01:05:36,359
Um,

796
01:05:37,039 --> 01:05:47,760
okay. I I'll get back to that one. Um,
the next one is slide uh 14 and this is

797
01:05:45,119 --> 01:05:53,039
the Bullard Wash Park, too. Um, this is
sort of a tucked away hidden thing. It's

798
01:05:50,640 --> 01:05:58,400
listed as an amenity for walking and
biking. Certainly, it's amenity for the

799
01:05:55,760 --> 01:06:05,119
multifamily that has gone up there. They
have a view of water. But can you tell

800
01:06:01,280 --> 01:06:09,359
me what that water is used for?
>> That's also used to irrigate the uh the

801
01:06:07,599 --> 01:06:16,160
boardwash
>> the whole entire space. Okay. So that

802
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:26,240
that itself is 31 acres of water that
also evaporates and uh the Rio Po water

803
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:32,319
evaporates al also. Okay. Um, I had no
idea that we had this much open water. I

804
01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:37,839
knew we had at the ballpark. I know we
were discussing at GRC. So, it was a a

805
01:06:35,520 --> 01:06:44,680
little bit of a a revelation to find out
that we we had this much. Um,

806
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:53,119
that's it's great presentation by the
way. It's just a lot to scroll through.

807
01:06:51,039 --> 01:07:01,680
Um
so if I'm now at slide 24 um

808
01:06:58,319 --> 01:07:06,000
I think that anything that is a Goodyear
amenity that is on potable water

809
01:07:04,319 --> 01:07:12,960
definitely support looking at
alternatives for that because the cost

810
01:07:08,960 --> 01:07:17,839
of that is the highest and um as we've
been talking about it would be great to

811
01:07:15,039 --> 01:07:23,920
get uh GRC
um ballpark off of our water portfoli IO

812
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:33,599
that gives allows us to use water for
other things. Um and then um even if we

813
01:07:30,319 --> 01:07:39,200
found other sources then we
I mean it looks like really the only

814
01:07:35,599 --> 01:07:44,400
thing we might in this batch the uh use
our Goodyear non-pottable water for

815
01:07:41,359 --> 01:07:47,760
would be the dog park. uh which mean we
wouldn't be using it for other things

816
01:07:46,000 --> 01:07:52,559
and we can put it back into the ground
or maybe in the future for advanced

817
01:07:49,920 --> 01:07:57,280
water purification but for now back in
the ground and get our our muchneeded

818
01:07:54,559 --> 01:08:01,680
storage credit. So I I am really
supportive of a plan to get us off the

819
01:07:59,440 --> 01:08:05,839
non-pottable I mean off the potable
water and granted the cost of the

820
01:08:04,160 --> 01:08:14,640
infrastructure is going to have to be
factored in but um certainly the RIID is

821
01:08:10,960 --> 01:08:21,279
runs by the community park it runs by PO
and it runs by this Bullard Wash park.

822
01:08:18,799 --> 01:08:28,000
So hopefully that would be something
that would be um become cost-effective.

823
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:31,759
Um on slide 26 when you have the water
source comparison maybe when you come

824
01:08:30,000 --> 01:08:37,679
back you can put what the cost is for
the the reclaimed effulent water costs

825
01:08:34,799 --> 01:08:43,759
because that that is missing from that
equation. Um our water is quite

826
01:08:41,120 --> 01:08:48,880
expensive. Um but yet it's less than
potable potable water portable water. So

827
01:08:46,880 --> 01:08:58,319
I mean that that is different definite
use. Um and and I guess my only um thing

828
01:08:54,560 --> 01:09:03,679
is as we evaluate that we have certain
maybe parks or water features that we've

829
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:07,120
had for a long time and as the cost of
water is going up substantially. We're

830
01:09:05,839 --> 01:09:14,560
going to have to determine what the
return on our investment is going to be.

831
01:09:10,000 --> 01:09:22,080
And as uh looking at a uh for for
example, Rio Po um we have this large

832
01:09:18,640 --> 01:09:27,520
amenity uh for that that neighborhood
which looks like a a neighborhood. I

833
01:09:25,279 --> 01:09:31,759
mean a like an HOA park, but it turns
out it's a city park. We don't again we

834
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don't program. I mean there as the cost
of water goes up and things we may have

835
01:09:33,839 --> 01:09:40,400
to determine how we're going to best
allocate. And I I just don't want us to

836
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:47,279
be in the mindset, well, we've always
done this and so we'll just keep funding

837
01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:51,759
it forever. I mean, at some point the
the water becomes expensive for the

838
01:09:49,440 --> 01:09:57,520
taxpayers too and and you have to
balance it with what is the usage uh

839
01:09:55,600 --> 01:10:04,960
what what are the residents getting from
it when we spend that that water money.

840
01:09:59,920 --> 01:10:10,640
So, um that's my um my only cont, you
know, if things sort of look like maybe

841
01:10:07,120 --> 01:10:13,920
they're just a passive thing. Um
whether or not that makes sense, but

842
01:10:12,480 --> 01:10:18,560
it's it's interesting as we're talking
about maybe putting more things on RID,

843
01:10:16,159 --> 01:10:23,600
it looks like we'll have more ponds. And
I I think that that

844
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:30,000
that's an important thing to note
because again then we continue to deal

845
01:10:25,760 --> 01:10:34,719
with the um evaporation and maybe uh
becoming sort of an attractive nuisance

846
01:10:31,840 --> 01:10:40,800
for others and and things like that. But
anyway, I I applaud the effort to look

847
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:43,920
at our system objectively be coste
effective. I mean you're going to have

848
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:47,840
to balance the cost of the
infrastructure versus the benefit, but

849
01:10:45,679 --> 01:10:52,239
then for how many years? And so there's
definitely a lot of things to it, but I

850
01:10:50,400 --> 01:10:56,480
think this is a conversation that we've
needed to have and I really appreciate

851
01:10:53,840 --> 01:11:00,880
that today. Thank you.
>> You're up.

852
01:10:58,719 --> 01:11:05,040
» All right. Yeah. Thank you, Barb and T
and David. Welcome. Welcome to Goodyear

853
01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:07,920
again. So, thank you for coming out.
Yeah. Thank you for your both

854
01:11:06,239 --> 01:11:12,640
creativity. I think all these little
tiny changes and upgrades over I mean

855
01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:15,520
with all the portfolio that we have, but
I mean this is one part of that

856
01:11:14,159 --> 01:11:18,880
portfolio. So, thank you for being
continue to be creative and proactive

857
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:22,960
and trying to look for ways to save
money, save water, and be more efficient

858
01:11:20,960 --> 01:11:27,520
with our water. Um, I had a quick
question, a couple questions here. Um,

859
01:11:25,679 --> 01:11:31,600
does do we still use the purple pipe and
would this be purple pipe? And which

860
01:11:28,960 --> 01:11:36,159
water is purple pipe water?
>> Reclaimed water is the purple pipe

861
01:11:33,679 --> 01:11:42,800
water. So, that is the treated waste
water. So, the Liberty non-potable um

862
01:11:41,199 --> 01:11:47,679
parks that are served by Liberty
non-potable are purple pipe parks.

863
01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:51,040
» Okay. Okay. Thank you. I thought we
still I thought we still used it. I

864
01:11:49,120 --> 01:11:56,560
thought we still used it when I I mean,
>> so I just curious about that.

865
01:11:53,600 --> 01:12:01,040
» And then I know we have these ponds and
I know council member Kano was talking

866
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:05,360
about the ponds. Um, I know we're not
going to build any more new recreational

867
01:12:02,719 --> 01:12:11,920
ponds, but is there a opportunity to if
we're going to have a pond, large ponds,

868
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:17,840
to put fish in there for recreation?
>> Typically, fish are used in a a water

869
01:12:14,719 --> 01:12:22,800
storage supply more for maintenance of
the of the lake or the pond or the

870
01:12:20,960 --> 01:12:26,880
storage facility, whatever you want to
call it. They're they're really

871
01:12:24,400 --> 01:12:32,640
containment to store the water so that
it's on demand when the park needs it

872
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:37,760
for its irrigation. And in order to
maintain that, the most cost effective

873
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:44,080
way is to stock it with fish that will
eat algae or other um grasses,

874
01:12:42,239 --> 01:12:50,000
» clean the, you know, stuff off the
bottoms. So, there's usually fish in

875
01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:53,760
there. None of our um storage facilities
are fishing. They don't there's no

876
01:12:51,760 --> 01:12:56,800
fishing allowed in any of our parks.
That's not what they're for.

877
01:12:54,960 --> 01:13:01,360
» Yeah. I just if there's a two two things
we can do while we're doing the one

878
01:12:58,640 --> 01:13:05,120
thing and it's also comes an amenity for
recreation as well. Obviously, you're

879
01:13:02,800 --> 01:13:09,120
not eating those kind of fish because
you wouldn't want to eat that water. So,

880
01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:13,440
» in my experience, if you get into the
fishing arena, then you get into game

881
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:16,640
and fish and they they'll manage your
they have to manage that lake.

882
01:13:15,199 --> 01:13:20,239
» I'm just looking up to opportunities. If
we already have a large body of water

883
01:13:18,640 --> 01:13:23,520
that we're going to have anyway, might
as well if we can make a couple of

884
01:13:21,920 --> 01:13:28,560
opportunities out of it potentially,
that'd be great great benefit for the

885
01:13:26,159 --> 01:13:33,040
residents a couple different ways. So,
and then

886
01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:36,719
do the HOAs use the same water? Have we
had conversations with them? If we're

887
01:13:34,480 --> 01:13:42,159
expanding and I'm sure they want to save
water as well, they way for them to be a

888
01:13:39,679 --> 01:13:46,320
user of that water to create, I'm sure,
more demand. I know you said there a

889
01:13:43,679 --> 01:13:50,960
supply issue potentially. maybe we don't
have the place to do that, but I'm sure

890
01:13:48,960 --> 01:13:53,280
they would love to be part of the system
if possible. So, I was curious to have

891
01:13:52,480 --> 01:14:00,000
those conversations.
>> We do have um uh some HOA conservation

892
01:13:57,600 --> 01:14:04,400
um programs that our staff will go out
and and work with them on. And we've

893
01:14:02,640 --> 01:14:09,920
been working with some of the the new
schools that have been locating on

894
01:14:07,760 --> 01:14:14,880
irrigation prop, you know, on the
project lands. So, in RID service area,

895
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:20,719
we've had a couple new schools. We've
been trying to kind of persuade them to

896
01:14:18,400 --> 01:14:24,480
use that irrigation supply. I'm not
going to force them to. Yeah.

897
01:14:22,719 --> 01:14:28,560
» But certainly once they start getting
those portable water bills, I think it

898
01:14:26,480 --> 01:14:33,679
starts looking more attractive to them
too. So yes, we do

899
01:14:30,560 --> 01:14:38,960
» as a conservation and just as our staff
reviews plans if we have a potential if

900
01:14:36,480 --> 01:14:41,760
there's an alternate supply close by, we
usually try to suggest it.

901
01:14:40,880 --> 01:14:44,880
» Yeah, I think it'd be a great
opportunity. I mean, the less bottled

902
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:49,280
water they're using, the better we can
use it for residents. And yeah, I think

903
01:14:47,199 --> 01:14:53,120
it Yeah, just to make sure that we're
not we're advertising it, but that or at

904
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:57,280
least that they're aware of it if we're
expanding these lines and letting people

905
01:14:55,280 --> 01:15:01,840
know that they that might be a potential
for those large irrigation users that

906
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:07,280
are like it's like a park like the
schools. Some schools have pretty large

907
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:11,280
areas that are watered very frequently
as well. So, but yeah, no, like I said,

908
01:15:09,760 --> 01:15:16,080
I really appreciate you bringing
bringing this to us. Continue to I'm

909
01:15:13,760 --> 01:15:20,320
very supportive. So, continue to bring
um any new ideas, things like that that

910
01:15:18,480 --> 01:15:23,760
we can help save water, make it more
efficient, and have more cost savings.

911
01:15:21,600 --> 01:15:27,600
So, thank you very much.
>> You know, great discussion with council.

912
01:15:25,360 --> 01:15:30,400
The only thing I want to add is that um
you know, drop saved is one we don't

913
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:35,679
have to pump. So, when you're putting
plants or anything around out the parks,

914
01:15:33,120 --> 01:15:38,560
look for the ones that use less water.
uh you know that still keep it green but

915
01:15:37,040 --> 01:15:41,280
use less water and the type of shrubs
that maybe don't grow as fast so you

916
01:15:40,320 --> 01:15:45,120
don't have to spend as much money
trimming them. So that's kind of where

917
01:15:43,280 --> 01:15:50,239
my sign is as far from cost standpoint
when it comes to comes to the park. So

918
01:15:47,040 --> 01:15:55,239
with that uh thank you and with I'm
going to go to any comments from the

919
01:15:52,239 --> 01:15:55,239
council

920
01:15:55,760 --> 01:16:02,640
» Barbara. Have we had any discussion or
any thought that we would drill our own

921
01:15:59,679 --> 01:16:08,480
wells? Do we have the ability to do
that? I know we're we've got the other

922
01:16:04,960 --> 01:16:13,120
wells that were in the super fund those
wells but there do we do we do that can

923
01:16:12,400 --> 01:16:19,040
we do that
>> I mean we have uh we have several wells

924
01:16:16,159 --> 01:16:24,239
in our system that's where we get a good
part of our portable supply is from

925
01:16:21,199 --> 01:16:27,520
wells so yeah we do have some
>> some options for some irrigation wells

926
01:16:27,199 --> 01:16:29,679
and
>> okay

927
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:35,440
» that could be a potential
>> okay for Rio Po uh the council may not

928
01:16:33,040 --> 01:16:41,840
be aware that when we have the floods,
it floods right through Pebble Creek. It

929
01:16:38,320 --> 01:16:46,080
goes right into Rayo Po. So,
it just it's, you know, it's it's a lot

930
01:16:44,000 --> 01:16:51,199
of water. So, that's why you don't have
picnic areas and ball fields over there

931
01:16:48,719 --> 01:16:55,760
because it'll wash away, but it's a it
drains all the way down because we're

932
01:16:52,480 --> 01:17:01,520
part of the Bullard Wash literally. and
and uh we do water the Bullard wash area

933
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:07,600
to keep it green, but we are using the
non-pottable water. So,

934
01:17:05,920 --> 01:17:13,199
» that's it. Thank you.
>> Anything from council? Any comments?

935
01:17:10,719 --> 01:17:16,159
We all good? How about the manager?
>> No, sir. We appreciate your time this

936
01:17:14,640 --> 01:17:20,880
evening. Thank you so much.
>> All right. Oh, I like that final remarks

937
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:24,058
there. Those are perfect. With that,
meeting ajourned. [laughter]