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thise he to
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um because your chance to make comments
recommendations um voice your

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opinions we are going to have PowerPoint
presentation so right after each warant

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is presented or each
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um is
presented um you'll have a chance to

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speak we' like you to come up the mic
and let us know who you are and weit to

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2 minutes so that um everybody has a
chance to say something they like to so

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welcome to this is the budget committee

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who've been meeting for a couple months
along with last year a few

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times and Terry
and lovely

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shell take so welcome I'm going to pass
this on to Bronson he's going to

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um thank

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you okay
I'm

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Administration um so the first article
we have is article six that is the um

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water service
first um they're looking to raise and

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appropriate 10 up to mil
um for

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engineering the
first I'll pass this

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down

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over you want to get a high level over
view just an overview okay article six

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basically will be
aot

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vote a grant the state

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service

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service effec
million will allow the department over a

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period of years
stated rules as

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Mersa years

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change to

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Min 71% princip forgiveness I

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said they yes people
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7% available this
year they also mentioned that after this

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year it will go down and know
forgiveness will be reduced and what you

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help

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out the million affect cross the
558,000

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you want me to go there or if you could
just so the M Pi it up or if you want to

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use the m whatever works
best

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that see the green light you're all
set halfway

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down but if it's green

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um I know that there's a lot of these
and I know you haven't set your rates

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yet do we have any idea what each of
these would do to affect the rates down

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the road or is that just not something
we can figure out

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right pay stats after the project is
completed

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um Lee one quick Point um I'm Peter Town
manager uh the you mentioned the U any

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payments wouldn't be du till after the
project is over my recollection is

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that's like what a 2035 date was it that
late 2037

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2037 so this this would after yeah and
then one year after the term of the note

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whatever the state does they did say
they may not allow 10 notes so if it

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could come
quickly and if we probably will not have

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expended

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be thank you

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yesim fashion

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enes

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old 30 years old it is at the point now

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where process to get out the process of
the land the

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lands this one we have a planning is for
this

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project the lack of proceeding with this
project

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the existing CRS will probably end up
being an

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extremely high cost on shift on
operations of the plant find another way

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to
dis

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dispensation handle
sles as dry as the

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then

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this
fun

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plan

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stationer side
has that is the original P station

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put the treatment station

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buil not yet reached its end of life but
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it it presently has the PO in a

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dry
Services the modern way of doing these

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things is quickly pumps up you don't
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about are
possible yes

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that is not going to affect

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water any questions on that

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which we extended through the first
phase of the work in

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there and this will complete the
upgrades of the in that of the

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operations of the first treatment
fail and then this is a planning

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Grant appr by

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the given by state after Bill is

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planning it basically includes replacing
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system in that area

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this is the
plan actually the planning is under way

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this will take care of the planning
which we've already authorized for

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replacement of the Press on

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the9 this is

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passed was
completed you have

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question the fall state resol

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we're skipping to article 12 now because
article 11 doesn't have to do with any

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money so article

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okay

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$644 for the operation of the department
it be offset by user fees and SE funds

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it will not affect General
Taxation and says so I recommend select

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them the
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project
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money

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Department there actually a
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$2,278 from what last year's request
was biggest side of that is because

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there's one less period in 2025 and in

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2024 there are various numbers of new

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um I know originally it sounded like the
Water and Sewer Department were going to

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go for a match of the 3% Cola that was
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town um if the voters turn down that 3%
how does that affect you

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folks down we always follow
down increases decreases so alth the

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commission have not taken any formal
action on this on this I would expect we

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would follow the town's or the voters
request thank

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you any other questions

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waterart General

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taxation that is a decrease from last

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year's request of $1
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6,437
2.74% and most of that is to the on less

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pay
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sork you

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very questions you ask

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because thank you very much
commissioner okay uh next up is article

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this one submitted by petition um this
article is to see town we favor of

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requiring the town to issue an RP um
honor July 1st to invite qualified

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external agencies to submit RPS for
dispatching services for the

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town um there's no um tax impacts TI
this U there's

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no from you can see there's no fund
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that's partially why
um the idea behind is that I to you

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know yeah
thank um so article as J suggested um

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system proposal for providing external
dispatch service to the town gum

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including any current contractual
agreements for dispatch service to Shel

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grandol and go County for unincorporated
places for the length of said cont s and

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furthermore to require the town B to
accept the lowest proposal received for

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external dispatch service that is at
least 75,000 less than the proposed 255

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budget of 360,000
for police departments dis service not

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including one time set of cost related
to the change over to ex dispat service

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for any cost of personal in any town of
B Department specifically hired for

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Police Department office duties issuing
this request for proposal not require

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any additional amount to be raised by
taxes perp language there no Express or

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obligation for the town form to
reimburse departments or

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agencies expens ening preparing foros
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RFB um as voted on Monday it was not

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recommended by the

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board want to come up

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discusss thank
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not a quote I'm sorry that's probably
not right but an estimate over

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$400,000 to go to external dispatch

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the towns in Coos County none of them is
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100,000 none of
it now I know that the estimate was

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given was given a lot of one-time
cost to set it up but it wasn't made to

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sound that
way there are going to be costs if this

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goes
through one time cost to set it

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up we're paying according to this year
if it goes through as I'm sure it will

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$363,000 for
dispatch so I'm saying that's

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$260,000 more than it should cost us per
year for

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external as far as I know there's only
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County that have their own dispatch all
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external
I tried to get the board to look at

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doing this when I was on the board to
get our dispatch completely

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free from Lancaster
Highway and it would said

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no we need to cut CS there is no money
tied to this because we don't know how

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much it's going to cost the plan is find
out what the real costs are we know what

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we'll be talking about
then plan on it for next year that gives

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a chance to budget for those CS to go
for the one time

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charges as long as it proves to be the
way I believe it's going to be for

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pricing in the letter to the endit the
day by the chief he said that it's going

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to be extended response time because you
have to call 911 or look up a

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dispat it's exactly the same you dial
911 or you dial the same number that's

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downstairs right now and it will be
picked up that whatever external dis

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dispatch takes
over you're talking a fraction of a

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second different time for radio signal
or electronic signal on fiber to get

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here negligable
difference this is something that really

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needs to be looked at the town is
bleeding and as taxpayers I think we

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have a right to say where our money is
going and if there are enough people to

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agree then that's the way it should be
all these other towns are doing this and

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have been doing it
forever I mean lter have on dispatch

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never is in
my so this one this article cost us

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nothing except gives us the real
information because over a phone call

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they can
guess there's no way to get it unless

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you actually put out an
RFP so this is an absolutely no cost way

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other than time for probably Peter to
get together with you know the different

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paries that be to draw up an
our and then we'll get the real answers

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then we can be educated to go at it the
way we should if I'm wrong and it costs

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more it didn't cost us a thing to find
out you know it's always we can't do it

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we can't do it we can't do
itad so my question is on

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um if this is accepted it sounds like
they're asking for a SEL to

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go numbers for this and then if if it
comes in 75,000 less that they have to

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accept it Y is that correct that's what
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for accept it if we can save at least
$75,000 a year I think it's worth

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it if they accept the proposal of
wherever how do we go about setting all

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that well the the RFP will explain
pretty much what has to be done to set

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it up budgeting for be in the 2026 year
so then it would be an artic for next

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year well that point same as our
dispatch is now but they've already

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accepted
it who's already accepted yeah they

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already have to accept it to put a
budget together than what it

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is not so you're not asking for the
board to go out and get bids and see

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what it would cost you're saying if it's
if it's

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$75,000 decrease that they have to
accept it and our FP is a bid to do

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it that is a bid to do it and then if it
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under then planning has to be done to
set it up and budgeting to be put in in

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2026 to

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cover that
is sh down and in after you

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accept well I guess I can't tell you
that one exactly but I guess what it

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comes down to the board does this stuff
all the time doesn't matter

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what no matter what the call is the
board has had the authority to do it

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they add full-time positions as is their
prerogative with this funding they have

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already
on and it's expected that it's going to

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go through to do
it so I would think that if you're if

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you're reducing the budget let's say
next year by the dispatch budget this

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year is
363 if you take that out the next year

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and you put in just say a 250,000
budget well that's over $100,000

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decrease I don't know why people
wouldn't go for

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that but you're also losing the revenue
that you gain from Rand

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off I am you are the wife of the police
chief and as a budget Committee Member

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who is the wife of the police chief
cannot participate in this

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conversation I don't mind answer but I'm
saying I'm I realized there is a very

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small of Revenue that comes in on the uh
the contracts for the EMS thank you and

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slightly on they do on fire County
correct I don't know what what's the

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percentage for that not contract okay
but it was never a very big percentage

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before and I find that it will be saving
a lot more than anything we gain for

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that little bit of
Revenue without the RFP in question also

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addressed that point so we would know
like what was coming in because we'd be

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taking bids we'd also know what income
was coming in from dispatch so the num

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should be there
so income should like we should know if

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we do this then we should know and then
we'll know whether it's good or not

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right but that contract not going to
change by that RFP it still comes out of

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what
we that money that comes in for Revenue

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right now that helps off at the
$363,000 will still be coming in to pay

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for whatever we have to pay on the new

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one it wasn't worth trying to figure out
because it's the same thing we still get

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the
same because we're Contracting or we're

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taking it in for the other towns that
we're going dispatch for so yeah oh yeah

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do yeah just a maybe quick Point um we
have just like you might hire somebody

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to build a deck and you think you're
getting a premium service and they find

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out oh we're going to subcontract and
the group out a Home Depot in

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Manchester you might not like that there
could be an issue where the county and

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town of Rand and schel that we have
contracts with might say we signed a

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contract for G dispatch and now you're
going to go out and save for 100,000 we

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we want more of it or the contract so
good

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I'm not going to speak for that but that
that is it could be a a complication

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well I guess it would be in the wording
but I believe it just says contract or

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dispatch services are included in I
don't believe it says it has to be by

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done by goram's internal dispat and we
explained to them that that number is

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generated from the overall contract
based on our budgets and then they'll

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say oh your budgets went down 100,000 so
now we want a new

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contract so that's that's the thing just
to be aware I understand but as I

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remember it was just worded on paying
for the Amber service and fire for

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County two separate things and I don't
believe it was I know the person I did

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not see the second contract it wasn't
broken out just included dispatch

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Services yeah we didn't we didn't break
that I know I'm way over my two minutes

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that okay do we have any other questions
from anyone about article 14

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thank

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you um this is kind directly to Mar I'm
just I'm curious because I'm coming in

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at the last strike the the Bell so what
are we looking at on a guest purpose on

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the equipment that we're going to have
to

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upgrade brought this to take
place and is anybody keeping in mind

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with the fact of everything that is
going on in our country just in general

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and what may have been a $300,000 gig
today might be twice that tomorrow so

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I'm what I what concerns me because I'm
a taxpayer too and I'm all about saving

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money there's no doubt about it I paying
up in taxes trust me but what I'm

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concerned about is that if we do this
like I'm kind of going where you were

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going so if we say yes we're going to
put out the

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dispatch to someplace
El but then we're going to have to

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spend a substantial amount of money to
do that and it's going to take us that

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much more it's almost like the water
department I know that you guys and I

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didn't get up and say anything
but you're looking to spend $2 million

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you're going to get back
71% have you been saving money for the

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other percentage or is it all going to
be

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today I I'm just I'm asking that's all
because it's going to end up costing us

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more
money in the long run I I just want to

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save money I I agree that's all the best
I mean it's just a it's just a simple

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question and I'm not trying to be
combative or I

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think Phil P here just to quickly answer
that I guess I don't think there's

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really any way of knowing what the cost
would be until an RFP actually came back

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with what was needed we don't we don't
know right now what would be needed by

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the outside agencies to dispatch for us
I guess I'm just I feel like we're

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putting the cart before the horse by not
finding out what it's going to cost us

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to upgrade all of this equipment I I
agree with you there's just no way of

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knowing that
number I do I'm kind of sorry I'm kind

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of late I had a
prior here kind of miss all the

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questions but I can kind of answer the
dispatch budget a little bit what's

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going on so I reached out to can we turn
it up a little bit so we can hear people

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speaking I don't think it's long it's
not

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even so I've already out prior to the
budget season even started when I put

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the budget together I realized how fixed
it was so I reached out to see what we

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can do to save buddies I reach out to
gra County they gave me a figure of

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$210,000

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excuse me I've read online where people
are posting numbers like uh light Fields

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Lancaster can do it for a little less
than 100 Grand so my Curious is where

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are you getting your
numbers where where right off their uh

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budget seat sheets right off their
budget Sheets White Field I believe went

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up
to oh I think it was 55 this year oh you

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do realize that is for PD only not
ambulance not fire and it is for the

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town of Lancaster the town of White
Field I have their store

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M Lancaster is 51 Bethlehem is 91
Whitefield is 35 gorm as 10 communities

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covering 600 square miles we have 10,000
calls in gor Lancaster has a little over

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5,000 Whitefield 3,000
around 4000 so even those three towns

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combined is only what G does itself and
the square miles of covers is not even

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close and then we got to factor in the
dispatch contracts to the 700 communties

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because people contract with us we don't
contract with anybody else they come to

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us and if we took half the contract gave
the other half to fire RS that takes

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125,000 directly off the top of our
budget which is income which is cheaper

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than what ra County can do it for so I
didn't even reach out any further

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because it wasn't the point we're
actually doing it cheaper than we

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contract I still say the best thing
about article 14 it doesn't cost us

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anything to get real numbers in writing
I have the real

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numbers like I said I've already I did
this prior

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to they seem to be quite a range your
numbers though that you were giving at

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on the budget

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committee I thought was a question for
you I thought it was a question for you

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that's why what was the question again
oh I thought he had a

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question we're playing what everything
that we're doing right now is what did

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you put a contract together did you push
it out for anybody or did you just get a

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whole gra County from a bud and that was
it not a what is wrong with doing

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this what is wrong with trying to get a
proposal to see how much it's going to

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cost from other contracts why are we
just going oh I did this but we're not

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seeing any contracts there's nothing on
a piece of paper right here that that

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work going to cost the what if needs a
stop the next question I have actually

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for you select board uh Town manager why
do we have a chief of police putting his

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idea of what he thinks is right on a
public forum in on duty in

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unicor check out Facebook your your fire
chief

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there put their own ideas on Facebook so
people that don't want to say anything

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are now seeing this on Facebook and
getting worried that a cheap fire and

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police are writing stuff on Facebook
saying this is a bad idea you're not

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giving them their option to think on
their own because they're

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Afra have paper and it cost more money
to go where is everybody

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see right here it's right here my folder
it's in email form s to me and it is

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minimum cost of

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$28,000 sure I'm more than happy to what
you want and as far as public go I am

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charged in the police chief of Gordon
hire and the Facebook it was put on is

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the Bo Police Department Facebook page
so I'm more than happy to do that and

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can do that and is part of my job thank

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you I have to say our current tax rate
is

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unsustainable and we have to start
looking at options to reduce this tax

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rate this is an option I have to say you
don't want to see anybody lose their job

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but salaries and benefits cost a lot of
money and I don't know where we came up

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with 600 miles are we including all the
national forest here that's part of I'd

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like to know how many square miles we
have in Goro I don't have them in have

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with me
today but a lot of even the land we have

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in gorum is not populated it's just
Forest you look at what we have that

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populated town G round
16 you know R tomb for a little ways I'm

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interested in GM New Hampshire not the
surrounding towns and the federal

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land we have to reduce our taxes
here thank you sir

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I think it's important to understand
Mary turn to speak more directly in m

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I think it's important to understand
that an

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RFP is a request for
proposals that's it it gets it from

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anybody who wants to respond not just
one but anybody who offers that service

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can respond it could be Berlin PB could
be gra PD could be Carol County PB um

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not PD but Sheriff's Department graft
County Sheriff's Department for whole

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people or any other dispatch because
really it doesn't matter anymore about

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the
distance okay that's not an issue

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anymore 100 years ago would have been
different with all the technology we

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have right now it's just like this okay
you pick up the phone you're di 911 out

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of it doesn't matter if it's in grafting
County Carol County dispatch or

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someplace
else it's still going to be almost no

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time at all before that call goes
through Okay the reason article 14 is

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here is because the select board and the
budget Committee in the past has been

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passed multiple
times why can't we go someplace else why

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can't we think outside the box and do
something different it was even asked of

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the select board and Mike if you want to
if you want to not look me that's fine

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whatever are you are youing
me I'm looking at you all pray your the

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board has even been asked can we take
advantage of free dispatch from New

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Hampshire
do the board majority said no show me

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that right my husband was on the board
show me that in right okay you want to

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play that game
not there was never a formal there was

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never a

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form
speaking this is public comment I'm the

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one who's speaking right now thank you
thank you you can you can talk after I'm

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done but we asked about free dispatch
multiple times we asked about trying to

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do something different multiple times to
save

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money never happened all I heard
was it's been talked about a

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lot that's it it's been talked about a
lot but no action ever was

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taken this article says the board will
be required to issue an official request

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for
proposal that's it if the requests for

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proposals come back and they're lower
work then Part B of it kcks in if they

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come back and they are
higher it stops right

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there it stops it just stops with the
RFB but the RFP gets us specific details

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for external
disat so that we know exactly what this

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entity would charge what this one would
charge what this this one would charge

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and what we
charge and then you look at everything

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because they put it all out this is what
the basic would be this is what it would

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be for hooking us up to the system one
time

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charge you look at everything you figure
it out does this work or not do I want

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to
puts I don't want to put people l jobs I

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was there in

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2011 I want that for people but with the
tax rate impact let me just ask if every

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article that has money Associated to it
for this

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budget what's the tax rate going to be
can I just steal that

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back it's
28 what's it be if everything

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passes uh the tax rate change
today there's various fact get into

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today but today 81 C change an 81 Cent
increase yes I think we're getting off

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the article 14 so hang on to that
thought Mary all

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right all right two things first
off and I know people think well you

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know my he's an old and I am an old
started here 39 years ago pointed to the

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budget
I yeah all right but I am going to

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address a couple of things here is
simply not

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true now one of the things that happened
back in

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1990 was that we looked at
dispatch we attempted to have our

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dispatch Handle by the city
of then

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we we attempted again to have the city
of grow and handle our dispatch when

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they built their Dispatch Center some of
you will remember that because it made

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sense they were building a whole new
Dispatch Center clearly that would be

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the time for us to go
Regional and then after that we went to

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them a third time and the reason I'm
giving to this to one two three is

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because the answer we got 1 two three
was a budget that was equal to what we

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were were already
expended and and that was all right now

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one of the compromises that happened
with Board of s it was a tax Revol going

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on much like this and people were very
excited about the tax rate which had

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something like $16 per
th000 and and one of the compromises was

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that all the clerical work in the police
department was going to be done by the

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dispatchers now that wasn't the case
back then they they had a secretary so

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the secretary went away fulltime person
and and the dispatch Temple not only

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that CL work but any other as aign um
projects in Ni St case all right so so

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inquires this this this myth of free
dispatch you know the board of

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selectman um doesn't go and call around
or at least I don't I rely on whoever

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the police put a moment in to do the due
diligence to reach out and get numbers

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just as our chief is doing today and in
every case numbers came back that were

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High um that required a lot work on our
side to make them work and or no we we

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can't handle
it so it

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really it doesn't matter what
the deal Lancaster has and they used to

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have it free it doesn't matter what
Whitefield has doesn't matter what cook

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does what matters is is will what will
they charge us to to do it that's the

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only thing that matters so gra gave a
quote of 210,000 there was another

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200,000 to change the system this
article second

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problem so does a select board have a
problem going out and getting an RFP

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no not at
all no problem whatsoever it's the

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mandatory processing
here

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mandatory if and and this is this is a
line that that is going to cause real

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problems even if the board were in
favor um C of War to accept the PO

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proposal received or external dispatch
service that is at least 75,000 less

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than the pros proposed 2025 budget of
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36,000 for the for Police Department's
internal dispatch service not including

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onetime setup cost okay so we still have
to if it's grapping we got to reason

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appropriate over $200,000 to change our
system over we don't know those num um

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you know the numbers that the chief gave
that is I listen

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to I I actually talked to him about four
hours ago today and he said it was going

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to be 100 Grand
okay

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actually but it is $100,000 we have to
come up come up just to make this system

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that's that's why he was mistaken
because you had added in correct extra

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help

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understand what this article is asking
for because it will be out there and we

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will have to
respond whether we want

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or just like to say one thing I I would
recommend that we really don't need to

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Hash this over tonight because this is
more towards the town meeting than the

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budget there's no tax impact by the
article that's my thought on

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that everybody can resarch it for
the thank you so move on to Article 15

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uh 17 that's
money see the to vot raise

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in 80,000 for the purpose of Highway
inside w as repaving and curving project

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tax rate impact 21 cents recommended by
board

446
00:49:35,720 --> 00:49:41,599
380
anybody

447
00:49:42,599 --> 00:49:52,799
that what sidewalks are being done
that's just

448
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:52,799
random no have a plan

449
00:49:57,820 --> 00:50:05,000
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this in

450
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,000
Char

451
00:50:05,240 --> 00:50:13,720
this thank you
tell um this is the typical amount we

452
00:50:10,160 --> 00:50:19,480
put in for general purpose um our in
house Crews to go out and there pave I

453
00:50:17,440 --> 00:50:27,319
think Union Street was a good example
this year of what we did as well as some

454
00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:34,040
work bani and race trots so this is our
inhouse resurfacing and the sidewalks go

455
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:38,400
with RS so it helps you know patching
patch as things like that no I mean I'm

456
00:50:36,920 --> 00:50:44,720
kind of bringing it up because ban
Street was one I live just on bazan

457
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:52,960
street and The Catch job they did like I
hit a ridiculous bump every time I go up

458
00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:57,359
or down the road
so I'm about to go out through a cold

459
00:50:55,200 --> 00:51:02,760
patch and fix it myself like because
it's so bad like these are supposed to

460
00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:08,839
be fixes and like it was contracted to
an outside company like is the town

461
00:51:05,480 --> 00:51:13,079
actually inspecting like afterwards
because I mean I know I have P truction

462
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:17,280
experience but it's like it was like the
worst patch drop I've ever seen on my

463
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:22,359
road it was a tiny little section and
the top section so is like the town

464
00:51:20,720 --> 00:51:28,240
doing this or this just get
subcontracted at um that particular job

465
00:51:25,799 --> 00:51:33,720
was sub contracted out with asphalt we
don't have our own asphalt uh machine um

466
00:51:31,839 --> 00:51:39,280
now you could recommend you know for
next year's budget we can put more money

467
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:44,200
in for that but this has kind of the
traditional 80,000 we we put in do we

468
00:51:42,599 --> 00:51:48,000
come back like does somebody from the
town actually look at it because it was

469
00:51:45,720 --> 00:51:54,480
such like I know it's my road
particularly that you up but it was just

470
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:58,160
such a bad job I can defer I see our
chief over here

471
00:51:59,400 --> 00:52:06,680
you can say
inspection no we we did inspect it then

472
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:12,720
you got a little bump like this or you
got big holes like this what I don't

473
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,720
know

474
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:21,559
what the part that goes up like this
actually I did transition it's like any

475
00:52:18,920 --> 00:52:26,640
hot top We Just sh it on there to try to
make it better instead of having holes

476
00:52:23,720 --> 00:52:32,000
in the road we try to make it better as
what we did and I really don't think

477
00:52:29,079 --> 00:52:36,799
it's that bad if there's a little bump
in the road compared to a big hole in

478
00:52:33,599 --> 00:52:40,480
the road it's dark he I I was what's
going on here but we're talking about

479
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:48,000
the 880,000 what do we want to
appropriate the 80,000 so

480
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:54,079
um I think if there's issues like that
maybe bring

481
00:52:50,599 --> 00:52:57,079
that bringing up at another time thank
you

482
00:52:57,440 --> 00:53:06,799
okay uh so Mar 18 is to see the town
vote to amend the purpose just to

483
00:53:03,359 --> 00:53:13,400
clarify um the road construction and
resurfacing CRF to include sidewalks

484
00:53:09,640 --> 00:53:18,599
that matching funds toward grants and to
uh raise an the sum of

485
00:53:15,640 --> 00:53:25,440
$250,000 to added into the BR serving
reconstruction capital reserve fund um

486
00:53:22,200 --> 00:53:32,880
the balance as of the end of 2024 was
6515

487
00:53:27,720 --> 00:53:32,880
$557 um the tax rate impact is about

488
00:53:34,240 --> 00:53:40,599
65 um
comments

489
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:53,400
question
okay uh Article 19 is the to V raise

490
00:53:51,319 --> 00:53:57,359
appropriate the amount of
18591 for the town Parks operating

491
00:53:56,079 --> 00:54:01,230
budget
um my board

492
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:07,319
to1
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493
00:54:03,319 --> 00:54:09,720
um I guess that's arle any comments on
Article

494
00:54:11,720 --> 00:54:20,880
19 is that a different line item from
yeah it's we wanted this year we're

495
00:54:18,319 --> 00:54:26,559
changing kind of how the town has the
town separated out to have that be its

496
00:54:23,119 --> 00:54:34,760
own article just was clear
so does that am include salary and

497
00:54:29,599 --> 00:54:34,760
overhead uh it's salary and all DayDay

498
00:54:35,559 --> 00:54:44,799
costs and as mentioned in budget
meetings meeting the budget um it's a

499
00:54:42,520 --> 00:54:52,000
elected position so it's this stting
this year going be 4,000 years plus a000

500
00:54:48,240 --> 00:54:52,000
per election

501
00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:06,040
you uh way this is presented you've got
Public Safety did you break down what

502
00:55:04,480 --> 00:55:10,160
Public
Safety I

503
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:14,799
[Music]
getd

504
00:55:12,450 --> 00:55:21,960
[Music]
I okay anybody have any questions on

505
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:27,720
fine right so article
20 so to see the town raise and

506
00:55:24,839 --> 00:55:35,880
appropriate the bud or sorry there is a
this is not the recommended am this is

507
00:55:31,039 --> 00:55:42,280
the um recommended amount of 5
m419 426 for the general Municipal

508
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:47,400
operations uh this article does not
included any special individual articles

509
00:55:45,200 --> 00:55:57,039
address uh this was recommended by the
board SEL 3 nothing um as Su just asked

510
00:55:51,680 --> 00:56:04,000
um Public Safety includes um and this is
broken down from me um but that would be

511
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:10,000
Fire EMS police
dispatch and I believe Emergency

512
00:56:06,440 --> 00:56:10,000
Management I think I hit all

513
00:56:17,559 --> 00:56:24,880
those what is
it I'm sorry I'm out but I wanted to

514
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:30,680
know and I guess I
jump I want know Fire cost fire

515
00:56:28,640 --> 00:56:36,839
department how much EMS cost how much
the police cost and how much dispatch

516
00:56:33,559 --> 00:56:41,599
cost down the board approved budget is
posted to the town

517
00:56:38,520 --> 00:56:46,920
website pardon me the board approved
budget is posted to the website the

518
00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:50,720
finance page so it can be found there so
I don't have right in front at this

519
00:56:48,720 --> 00:56:57,720
moment it can be found on our
website so there is an expense budget

520
00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:57,720
and it's posted on the website

521
00:56:59,559 --> 00:57:04,319
buy and EMT together is $938,000

522
00:57:26,260 --> 00:57:31,559
[Music]
police 907

523
00:57:43,319 --> 00:57:51,200
671 I have EMS while you're waiting I
have those already together with fire

524
00:57:57,599 --> 00:58:05,880
Emergency Management and dispatch
Emergency Management

525
00:58:02,880 --> 00:58:05,880
is

526
00:58:08,240 --> 00:58:11,240
8,281

527
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:27,079
8281 363 what
417 417

528
00:58:30,680 --> 00:58:39,559
um and as I have noted on here um in the
wars themselves you can't really put it

529
00:58:36,640 --> 00:58:44,400
in there um but we do have offsetting
revenues I will know that this Revenue

530
00:58:41,839 --> 00:58:49,000
will get adjusted later with the Dr
which is the Department of Revenue

531
00:58:46,280 --> 00:58:53,440
Administration um it's a same process we
do every year that's you around

532
00:58:50,559 --> 00:59:00,039
September but currently that amount
operating revenue is budged

533
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:06,160
1,615
55 um that amount will likely end up in

534
00:59:03,880 --> 00:59:08,960
high time of September but the Dr
recommends you budgeting more

535
00:59:07,319 --> 00:59:15,599
conservative figure because we do not
know what the state will give us for

536
00:59:10,880 --> 00:59:22,400
things like RS comms tax um soend budget
that L out um So currently the net

537
00:59:18,920 --> 00:59:26,440
operating budget um for article 20 as of
today would be 3,843

538
00:59:27,599 --> 00:59:34,960
so I just want make sure that was not
and explain because in the war you see

539
00:59:32,480 --> 00:59:38,720
town that not would be in there so
that's why I want to get it out here um

540
00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:43,280
because there isn't really a mechanism
to include

541
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:45,599
that so any additional questions for
article

542
00:59:52,880 --> 01:00:00,799
20 okay article 21 to see if the town
will vot to raise an appropriate the sum

543
00:59:58,680 --> 01:00:00,799
of

544
01:00:03,980 --> 01:00:07,079
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545
01:00:07,960 --> 01:00:15,920
$171,400
um any comments questions on article

546
01:00:22,880 --> 01:00:32,520
21 now V appropriate this Su of 10,000
for the purpose of supporting the 4th of

547
01:00:29,880 --> 01:00:38,079
July committee for the cost of fireworks
for the 4th of July celebration tax impa

548
01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:42,079
3 cents recommended by board
3 any questions on article

549
01:00:47,240 --> 01:00:54,720
22 article 23 the town will vote to
raise and appropriate the sum of 55,000

550
01:00:53,200 --> 01:01:00,799
to be added to the fire truck capital
reserve fund as established uh end of

551
01:00:57,720 --> 01:01:00,799
your balance is

552
01:01:06,480 --> 01:01:11,400
$329,600 any questions on article

553
01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:25,760
23 I ask question sorry are we to get
another fire truck oh toss over

554
01:01:26,400 --> 01:01:32,480
who fire chief so we actually have one
um that we're going to be picking up in

555
01:01:30,280 --> 01:01:37,960
the next four months it's
222,000 that we're using out of that and

556
01:01:34,799 --> 01:01:44,720
another 100,000 that was ARA funds that
were as part of total funding and then

557
01:01:40,839 --> 01:01:44,720
our next truck is four to five years

558
01:01:51,240 --> 01:02:00,079
down article 24 to see if the town will
vote to raise and appropriate a su of

559
01:01:56,119 --> 01:02:05,720
that to the scva which stands for self
contained apparatus half Reserve fund as

560
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:08,240
previously established uh end of year
bounds was

561
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:26,160
$7,881 um and I'll just 25ck to see
appropriate some 45,000 to the ambulance

562
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:33,839
drf I your balance is 14, 334
12 C also unanimously

563
01:02:28,799 --> 01:02:33,839
approved any comments on articles 24 or

564
01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,200
25

565
01:02:40,119 --> 01:02:50,640
okay go and appropriate 25,000 the
police cruiser

566
01:02:45,839 --> 01:02:58,559
CRF balance as of the end the Year
27574 ta imp 7

567
01:02:54,680 --> 01:03:04,599
cents uh um article 27 to see if the T
raise an appropriate the Su 10,000 to be

568
01:03:00,680 --> 01:03:09,440
add to at leud CRF and a year balance
37621

569
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:15,359
46 ta impact 3
cents and Article 28 see the town Lo

570
01:03:13,200 --> 01:03:19,240
appropriate the Su 13,000 be added to
the dispatch

571
01:03:16,880 --> 01:03:24,960
CRF the balance as the end of the year
74,000 A Dollar Cash impact three sets

572
01:03:22,200 --> 01:03:30,440
all unanimously um recommended by the
board so any comments or questions on

573
01:03:27,559 --> 01:03:30,440
any of these

574
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:41,319
three
okay article 30 see if the tunel r is

575
01:03:39,039 --> 01:03:46,359
appropriate some
271500 to be added to the highway heavy

576
01:03:44,240 --> 01:03:52,039
capital reserve fund as previously
established end of year balance is

577
01:03:49,270 --> 01:03:59,160
[Music]
23525 tax impact 53

578
01:03:55,839 --> 01:04:04,520
recommend by the board of SEL 3 nothing
and then quickly uh article 31 is to

579
01:04:02,440 --> 01:04:10,240
raise an appropriate 225,000 we added to
the sanation recycling capital reserve

580
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:18,200
fund and your balance is
$2,791 tax rate back said since any

581
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:26,240
comments questions on articles 30 or
31 why so hot so me and

582
01:04:24,480 --> 01:04:32,160
our John
sat down and initially came in at a much

583
01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:37,200
lower number and for the board of Select
request were asked hey those don't seem

584
01:04:34,920 --> 01:04:41,880
like realistic numbers please do your
homework come back with qu assessments

585
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:45,200
and so we did and when we came back it
seemed like every single piece of

586
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:53,760
equipment that we needed to replace came
back at right around 2/3 to double what

587
01:04:49,279 --> 01:04:59,520
it was so P equ like I believe replacing
used to cost $60,000 cost

588
01:04:56,599 --> 01:05:03,359
250,000 same size piece of equipment
nothing really changed other than the

589
01:05:01,720 --> 01:05:10,079
market changed
postco so things that used to cost

590
01:05:06,400 --> 01:05:15,720
160,000 now cost 90 to 100,000 more so
across the board things are place over

591
01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:22,119
the next five six seven years all cost
all s so to economy that's what increase

592
01:05:38,119 --> 01:05:45,559
small ones to see if the T ra
appropriate some 3600 be added to Cas

593
01:05:42,680 --> 01:05:52,240
Hill landfill Expendable trust fund
balance as of the end of year

594
01:05:47,839 --> 01:05:58,799
15660 taach impact Penny and AR 33 to
see the to ra an appropriate some of

595
01:05:54,640 --> 01:06:01,760
3500 eing Federal trust fund and your
balance

596
01:06:03,440 --> 01:06:13,200
346 and there is a typo bu not V
recommend so that is a

597
01:06:10,119 --> 01:06:18,960
typo any
questions one quick question and maybe e

598
01:06:15,680 --> 01:06:23,559
can answer it is that those closing
funds is that Perpetual that's from a

599
01:06:21,079 --> 01:06:31,359
rdd I'm assuming
right no the the adro district is

600
01:06:28,119 --> 01:06:35,079
self-funded entirely by the communities
in the county that want for we have all

601
01:06:34,279 --> 01:06:42,559
our
money in in the bank so we're we're all

602
01:06:39,079 --> 01:06:51,359
set this is actually for the ber
Landfield and we used to take St to the

603
01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:51,359
Landfield we need

604
01:06:52,319 --> 01:07:00,400
to provide the closing cost I the
agreement from way back when we done the

605
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:03,880
second year we'll be doing it for a
while longer okay yeah I know it was an

606
01:07:02,200 --> 01:07:08,039
every year thing before I just didn't
realize for forever I know I've heard it

607
01:07:06,279 --> 01:07:10,480
before until it's closed till it's
closed

608
01:07:11,559 --> 01:07:20,359
yeah
okay article 34 to see to rais

609
01:07:17,279 --> 01:07:26,319
appropriate Su
$2,725 oper house C Reserve fund as

610
01:07:23,079 --> 01:07:31,520
previously established uh funds to come
from the end of year un assigned fund

611
01:07:29,000 --> 01:07:36,760
balance um balance as of the end of the
year and year is $

612
01:07:34,400 --> 01:07:41,559
7,481 um so M amount to be raised
through taxation that's all revenue that

613
01:07:39,039 --> 01:07:46,799
we generated in the year for town hall
rental um article 35 to see if the town

614
01:07:44,640 --> 01:07:53,880
will vote to raise an appropriate sum of
62,000 to the assessment Capital fund

615
01:07:50,359 --> 01:07:53,880
Bal as of the end of the year

616
01:07:54,440 --> 01:08:02,799
$17,620.63 tax R back 16 and article 36
to see

617
01:07:59,760 --> 01:08:07,920
the appropriate the sum of 20,000 to be
added to the information technology CRF

618
01:08:05,839 --> 01:08:15,239
B at the end of the year
3977

619
01:08:10,400 --> 01:08:18,239
actually okay any questions on 34 35 or
36

620
01:08:22,239 --> 01:08:31,279
okay I well first reason I
said about the 200,000 and they didn't

621
01:08:28,000 --> 01:08:36,560
want you to be wrong and the chief had
said that it was different numbers that

622
01:08:34,480 --> 01:08:42,000
added up that and there was a report a
year and I didn't want to do that but

623
01:08:38,920 --> 01:08:47,839
for this you guys signed an
RFP contract now I'm sorry for assessing

624
01:08:45,759 --> 01:08:56,120
the other night there was no price to
given at all you're so I don't not

625
01:08:52,000 --> 01:09:02,319
okay however you have
$125,000 in the assessing budget to do a

626
01:08:59,279 --> 01:09:09,679
statist statistical reevaluate
evaluation this year it was 72,000 last

627
01:09:06,960 --> 01:09:15,520
year to do that and it didn't get done
but half the money was spent on Pi

628
01:09:13,159 --> 01:09:21,279
whatever so does this change the amount
of money that you got on

629
01:09:18,400 --> 01:09:26,440
that from that RFP saying it's still
going to be

630
01:09:23,239 --> 01:09:30,920
125,000 the second part of that
is That's supposed to set us off so we

631
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:33,920
have five more years before we do
another

632
01:09:31,839 --> 01:09:38,000
rebound yeah which is what you folks
said correct I want to make sure if

633
01:09:36,759 --> 01:09:42,480
that's the case why don't we take the
125 out of this capital reserve fund you

634
01:09:40,520 --> 01:09:46,880
have to do a separate
wording for the

635
01:09:44,679 --> 01:09:51,279
assessing take it out of this because we
have five more years to earn that back

636
01:09:49,960 --> 01:09:56,520
ready for another one instead of taking
it all out of our tax for one year for15

637
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,480
so can this be

638
01:10:04,239 --> 01:10:13,960
done Le Bronson perfectly capable
answering that but the capital reserve

639
01:10:11,040 --> 01:10:23,600
fund for assessing is
uh is is basically the war chest for um

640
01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:30,760
big suits and we have one
perfield and um

641
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:33,480
and that is why that fund needs to exist
and the

642
01:10:31,679 --> 01:10:42,480
125 is
separate if we lose um from F you're

643
01:10:37,960 --> 01:10:48,199
you're looking at2 or3 per thousand on
that case now we're we're in that battle

644
01:10:45,880 --> 01:10:54,080
with the city of Berlin and with the
town of

645
01:10:49,800 --> 01:11:00,640
dber so we're spreading our costs um we
have the firm we've used for the last um

646
01:10:58,120 --> 01:11:05,840
30 some odd years which is
sanc they have good track record in

647
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:11,400
court better than any other firm that we
get so so we're fairly confident we're

648
01:11:08,960 --> 01:11:15,480
going to Prevail um
sadly uh when you're dealing with a

649
01:11:13,480 --> 01:11:21,679
multibillion dollar Corporation who has
a legal department that is funded by

650
01:11:18,840 --> 01:11:29,159
millions and you're a
municipality you're starting off 98

651
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:34,960
all um we have succeeded more often than
not in the past but the answer the quick

652
01:11:31,800 --> 01:11:43,520
question Adam the U the money in that
Capal Reserve is is more or less

653
01:11:39,440 --> 01:11:52,400
already planned for this upcoming
lawsuit and I'll let Peter who was in

654
01:11:46,960 --> 01:11:52,400
negotiations today at add a little to

655
01:11:52,600 --> 01:12:03,320
that sure you enjoy we um we can't right
it really involves too much I can tell

656
01:12:00,480 --> 01:12:07,920
you that the like many large utilities
they have a standard operating policy

657
01:12:05,560 --> 01:12:12,320
rolling through the communities and they
might let's say this run out round

658
01:12:09,239 --> 01:12:15,719
numbers we think they have $20 million
property and with a straight face

659
01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:19,360
they'll say no it's worth about
8.5 and if you don't like that here's

660
01:12:17,920 --> 01:12:26,239
our reorders and we're going to take it
to cour so the tax revenue that we would

661
01:12:22,800 --> 01:12:31,199
lose is is catastrophic
when we have tax bills are out there the

662
01:12:29,639 --> 01:12:36,719
typical strategy for them is to come
back and say you've over Valu we want

663
01:12:34,400 --> 01:12:43,159
all our money back um and we'll throw a
number at you like just not being too

664
01:12:39,440 --> 01:12:43,159
creative Norm us

665
01:12:43,199 --> 01:12:54,120
$800,000 so it's important for us to be
able to have the quality experts and War

666
01:12:50,400 --> 01:12:58,719
chest is a I guess an accurate enough U
to say we can find not going to pushed

667
01:12:56,159 --> 01:13:04,040
over from the disch by whatever big
corporate utility or commercial that's

668
01:13:01,159 --> 01:13:08,920
out there so yeah the best answer to
your question is this is needed money

669
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:11,639
for us to basically have the funds to go
forward to

670
01:13:12,320 --> 01:13:21,880
protect they well the other half of that
or maybe third of that question was when

671
01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:28,320
120 $5,000 was put into the assessment
budget it was because we didn't have an

672
01:13:24,239 --> 01:13:34,320
answer back at least way explain at the
meeting on we didn't have the rfps

673
01:13:31,920 --> 01:13:40,719
back find out what it was going to cost
to have somebody do the statistical read

674
01:13:37,600 --> 01:13:46,520
and now we do do we still need that
$125,000 or is going to be less so the

675
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:51,520
the good news with that RP when we had
original numbers Ross and I put together

676
01:13:49,239 --> 01:13:57,639
you know a conservative number and the
good news was we were able to negotiate

677
01:13:54,440 --> 01:14:03,000
um some of down there's two contracts uh
we have a new assessor their contract is

678
01:14:00,239 --> 01:14:07,600
being reviewed by the Dr so it won't be
official

679
01:14:05,040 --> 01:14:12,639
official actionable until they give us
the heads up which could be the next few

680
01:14:10,000 --> 01:14:17,760
days um everything lines up everything
looks good um one contract was for a

681
01:14:15,880 --> 01:14:22,760
statistical three Val in
2025 and then the other was a three-year

682
01:14:20,239 --> 01:14:30,000
contract for General assessing purposes
which um Michelle able to negotiate down

683
01:14:26,520 --> 01:14:35,120
to a much lower rate than was presented
to the budget committee so that contract

684
01:14:33,159 --> 01:14:40,560
should be available as soon as
the says

685
01:14:37,440 --> 01:14:47,639
great and so basic we still don't know
as what yeah what what that 125 number

686
01:14:44,480 --> 01:14:53,560
is going to be no we do know yeah we do
know we do know I mean it's it's going

687
01:14:49,280 --> 01:14:59,679
to be 125 that is the fixed sum with the
new Assessor

688
01:14:55,560 --> 01:15:02,880
and and and I know um from a meeting
that some of you were at

689
01:15:03,400 --> 01:15:09,560
earlier so I know some people have
concerned with it's doing the

690
01:15:07,719 --> 01:15:14,000
statistical update because the
residential property values having done

691
01:15:11,800 --> 01:15:18,679
what they've done over the last four
years has led to a shift in tax burden

692
01:15:17,000 --> 01:15:24,520
that is real and
demonstratable and so one of the

693
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:29,760
comments I heard um was Mike you know we
don't want statistical this is bad

694
01:15:26,880 --> 01:15:35,080
enough so this is the Dilemma that the
the board faces and I explaining this

695
01:15:32,679 --> 01:15:42,639
simply if they can you have an
equalization rate this year of

696
01:15:38,440 --> 01:15:48,400
75% and we asked our assessor what will
that do to us on utility

697
01:15:45,159 --> 01:15:54,040
property and they came back with a $6
million value adjustment and just keep

698
01:15:51,639 --> 01:16:01,440
the math simple all right we're close
enough to $30 per thousand so just think

699
01:15:56,719 --> 01:16:07,560
of it as 30,000 for every million 36 is
18 that's

700
01:16:04,440 --> 01:16:14,840
$180,000 that we're going to have to
find if we don't do this this the update

701
01:16:12,159 --> 01:16:22,520
yet at the same time there's every
indication that residential property as

702
01:16:18,320 --> 01:16:28,520
and need to go off now we're hoping that
things are finally starting to level off

703
01:16:25,679 --> 01:16:34,600
um real estate doesn't seem quite as
crazy as it was two years ago but that's

704
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:41,880
a circumstances we find ourself in we
can we can we can go find

705
01:16:37,600 --> 01:16:48,880
$180,000 somewhere or we can spend 25
and the town will be up to 100% And The

706
01:16:45,400 --> 01:16:54,520
Dr has said to the town that even though
this is a statistical update which is

707
01:16:51,880 --> 01:17:00,080
different than a full R they are willing
to accept it as a full reval so we will

708
01:16:57,199 --> 01:17:04,440
not have to do another one till um
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709
01:17:01,400 --> 01:17:09,440
2030 and so that's a significant savings
for us um and for

710
01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:13,239
you that would
probably you know be over

711
01:17:11,930 --> 01:17:18,880
[Music]
125,000 So Adam I don't know if that

712
01:17:16,159 --> 01:17:26,560
answers all your questions most of it
most are you know that's basically where

713
01:17:21,280 --> 01:17:32,760
I was getting at uh the other thing is
at the meeting where this was being

714
01:17:29,080 --> 01:17:41,480
discussed you said the was forcing us to
and we had to do just correct I call the

715
01:17:38,440 --> 01:17:50,719
yeah they don't do that they said the
BLT the B A I'm thinking sandwiches now

716
01:17:45,960 --> 01:17:57,840
get so right they sold you was right but
but they said to me and

717
01:17:55,080 --> 01:18:04,560
to the entire Board of s to the town
manager is you don't want us to go to

718
01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:11,520
the btla and tell them you need to do
this that's what they said so so I know

719
01:18:08,920 --> 01:18:17,080
the semantics that they weren't lying to
you but they weren't being entirely

720
01:18:13,840 --> 01:18:25,560
truthful either so our circumstances
were dual fold all right one we had btla

721
01:18:21,440 --> 01:18:31,800
threat given to us by the Dr
and then we also have the was of value

722
01:18:29,080 --> 01:18:36,800
on utility property of $6
million so between those two there's

723
01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:44,840
really no Wile room we're going to do
this um we may not and we won't be I'm

724
01:18:41,639 --> 01:18:52,600
not very happy with where we are with
valuations right now uh it's it's

725
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:58,600
absolute it's Madness but here we are
and it's not just happening to us I mean

726
01:18:55,520 --> 01:19:04,199
the town of Conway is is an open Revolt
over this and every town around us and

727
01:19:02,040 --> 01:19:09,440
you'll see this play out at town meeting
you're going to see big increases in tax

728
01:19:06,679 --> 01:19:16,560
rates and it's going to it's not going
to be the full impact just like here you

729
01:19:13,719 --> 01:19:20,719
you looked at you know an almost $4
increase in your taxes but then when you

730
01:19:18,440 --> 01:19:26,440
did the math in your individual houses
it was like oh wait a minute I'm paying

731
01:19:23,440 --> 01:19:33,679
a lot more than that and you are because
I went and and so the combination of

732
01:19:30,080 --> 01:19:40,239
those two things is um is driving a tax
revolt that starts at the sea and ends

733
01:19:36,600 --> 01:19:46,199
in Canada um it's affecting every
Community some more than others and just

734
01:19:42,440 --> 01:19:46,199
to be fair it doesn't end in

735
01:19:47,440 --> 01:19:56,239
can you can say keep
going but anyway the main part of this

736
01:19:53,840 --> 01:20:00,239
was the be taken out of capital reserve
and that was the answer the question I

737
01:19:58,199 --> 01:20:06,760
want to bring up to try and save some
here instead of the other I thought B

738
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:06,760
stuff was all done

739
01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:13,040
legal so
anyway thank

740
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:22,199
you Mike I don't want to meet a it took
me so long to learn what Equalization

741
01:20:19,600 --> 01:20:27,080
ratio really means for us I think maybe
an overview for everybody of what that

742
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:34,639
why do c rebout so important the
equalization ratio can I

743
01:20:30,800 --> 01:20:41,199
yeah I mean commit I don't know I should
I should

744
01:20:37,239 --> 01:20:46,159
that answer is under state law um
utility companies have special rules

745
01:20:44,480 --> 01:20:52,360
and
if the equals meaning if if you have a

746
01:20:49,440 --> 01:20:58,280
house that we say is worth 100,000 but
it sells 150 it means were off we are

747
01:20:55,800 --> 01:21:03,880
taxing correctly
utilities will automatically get that

748
01:21:00,719 --> 01:21:09,719
discount so if the the town gr R
municipality city town has an

749
01:21:06,520 --> 01:21:13,560
equalization rate that's not 100% if I
say it's a

750
01:21:10,760 --> 01:21:18,280
50% the utilities in that Community will
say thank you you can value US a 20

751
01:21:16,120 --> 01:21:26,239
million and and it be automatically get
a 50% is count so Mike says we're at 72

752
01:21:22,960 --> 01:21:30,920
in the 70s that's almost 30% discount
that all the utilities would get and

753
01:21:28,679 --> 01:21:33,480
then the other crial note is it's
especially dangerous because then you

754
01:21:32,480 --> 01:21:38,800
have
other commercial properties don't get

755
01:21:36,040 --> 01:21:44,520
the automatic drop but they go to the
btla they go to support and say we want

756
01:21:41,800 --> 01:21:51,400
that too so then we end up in court and
saying why isn't XYZ commercial getting

757
01:21:47,440 --> 01:21:56,520
that 30% discount as well and then lose
so that's what Equalization is important

758
01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:56,520
thank you

759
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:12,920
is that it only the um it only comes out
in September or October so what we

760
01:22:09,679 --> 01:22:18,360
decide during this budget and the 81
cents could be totally offset by this

761
01:22:16,320 --> 01:22:22,840
Equalization rate that comes out in
September

762
01:22:19,679 --> 01:22:26,360
October so it it um and that's what
happened to us last year that came out

763
01:22:25,679 --> 01:22:32,080
and
then our taxes went up crazy so we

764
01:22:30,159 --> 01:22:35,760
thought we were getting taxed a certain
thing and it didn't happen because of

765
01:22:34,000 --> 01:22:41,199
the legalization rate so we always have
to keep that in mind also with the

766
01:22:38,280 --> 01:22:48,159
revenues that doesn't come out right off
neither so that comes

767
01:22:44,120 --> 01:22:55,040
out whenever September September as well
so we decide a budget now but in

768
01:22:51,320 --> 01:22:57,520
September it changes
did that

769
01:23:01,800 --> 01:23:09,600
help7 to see if the town will raise and
appropriate the sum of 41,000 to be

770
01:23:06,040 --> 01:23:16,520
added maintenance exteral trust fund set
funds come from unassigned fund balance

771
01:23:12,320 --> 01:23:16,520
uh December 31st balance of

772
01:23:18,130 --> 01:23:21,319
[Music]

773
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:33,000
back into this um trust fund um article
38 see town will vote to raise

774
01:23:30,480 --> 01:23:37,560
appropriate the sum of 3,000 to be add
to the special Insurance Expendable

775
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:43,520
trust fund as previously established
December 31st 2024

776
01:23:40,540 --> 01:23:50,320
[Music]
97277 um and article 39 to see a town V

777
01:23:47,320 --> 01:23:56,400
to raise rate the some 15,000 add to the
longevity s Expendable trust fund Bal as

778
01:23:53,600 --> 01:24:02,280
the end of the year ,
7724 tax impact 4 any questions about 37

779
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:08,239
38
430 ju just a quick one do these have

780
01:24:05,679 --> 01:24:13,000
ceilings on
them I know that I don't believe

781
01:24:13,199 --> 01:24:19,560
these I think that you guys would work
on setting those figuring out what's a

782
01:24:17,920 --> 01:24:24,920
reasonable so just things keep going
every year no matter how much is in it I

783
01:24:22,040 --> 01:24:30,520
don't know what the right amount is
but as as just put it on once it gets to

784
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:35,320
a certain point we don't put into it
till it goes Bel again but figure out

785
01:24:32,880 --> 01:24:38,639
what it is going forward it be a
suggestion okay thank

786
01:24:40,080 --> 01:24:47,280
you in the home
stretch to see if Town V rais

787
01:24:44,800 --> 01:24:50,239
appropriate the sum of 14,000 for the
purpose of supporting clients of

788
01:24:48,560 --> 01:24:55,080
amstrong Valley Home Care Services
through with war tax rate impact 4 cents

789
01:24:53,520 --> 01:25:01,520
this is by a petition
board recommended 3 nothing article 41

790
01:24:58,600 --> 01:25:03,960
the CF vote to raise and appropriate the
sum of$

791
01:25:02,650 --> 01:25:09,040
[Music]
6,745 for the operation of Tri County

792
01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:15,600
Community Action Program service
programs

793
01:25:11,040 --> 01:25:20,239
G tax 2 cents recomend the petition and
recommend by the board 3 nothing and

794
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:25,159
article 42 to see if the town will vot
to raise appropriate the some 10,000

795
01:25:22,239 --> 01:25:31,880
which is 250 per enroll for the purpose
of supporting the Learning Center in

796
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:36,800
with 40 children tax impact 3 Cents by
petition and recommend by the board vote

797
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:40,199
of three nothing any questions comments
on 40 41 or

798
01:25:52,800 --> 01:26:00,119
42 White
um G Community learing Center is a

799
01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:04,480
wonderful place okay it provides really
good child care for kids who are going

800
01:26:02,000 --> 01:26:08,280
there and I'm very happy that they're
going to be getting out of their current

801
01:26:06,080 --> 01:26:12,239
location because I think it was pretty
tight for them there

802
01:26:10,480 --> 01:26:20,159
however we
already um are looking at the

803
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:24,520
significant loss of tax revenue because
they are purchasing the old Credit Union

804
01:26:22,679 --> 01:26:31,040
Building
and because we cannot tax them because

805
01:26:27,880 --> 01:26:35,280
they are a nonprofit is it correct that
we will get no tax from that

806
01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:42,040
building that would be correct um they
can operate either as a school and and

807
01:26:39,520 --> 01:26:48,119
then not for profit so they are um they
would be the tax exemp

808
01:26:44,080 --> 01:26:52,719
stats and um the building I believe is
valued at over $650,000

809
01:26:56,280 --> 01:27:07,440
65 it's I think the current P the
purchase prices around that so yeah

810
01:27:03,300 --> 01:27:14,960
[Music]
last and

811
01:27:09,760 --> 01:27:24,239
so what would that be in terms of lost
tax because that building is now own to

812
01:27:19,159 --> 01:27:24,239
be own by a nonprofit versus

813
01:27:25,440 --> 01:27:32,520
4,000
yeah think it's around

814
01:27:29,280 --> 01:27:37,159
18 it's a chunk of change that we are
going to

815
01:27:33,560 --> 01:27:41,920
lose in terms of tax revenue from that
bu I don't think it's appropriate that

816
01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:46,880
they should be asking the town for
anything at this point the other

817
01:27:44,119 --> 01:27:52,400
question I had I just saw that we put
out an RFP for a

818
01:27:49,480 --> 01:27:58,840
grant I believe
administrator um what is cost to the

819
01:27:55,080 --> 01:28:03,040
town for that and that was for their
will

820
01:27:59,840 --> 01:28:09,840
be it was a pretty sophisticated complex
Grant they a grant stack um a cdfa CDG

821
01:28:07,080 --> 01:28:15,280
grant part of Grant application had
Grant Administration costs in that so

822
01:28:12,920 --> 01:28:21,159
that would be one of those it cost me
time to coordinate and but I kind is you

823
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:27,440
know I'm on track the town extra so that
would be covered by the grant is

824
01:28:24,719 --> 01:28:33,840
so what will the town pay if anything
for the administrative is that new

825
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:37,440
or the town is the sponsor for the grant
um part of the grant paperwork you can

826
01:28:35,840 --> 01:28:42,199
put in for different you know we're
going to put in a driveway we need

827
01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:47,000
equipment we need to part of the Grant
application has a grant administrator l

828
01:28:44,480 --> 01:28:51,239
so the person that we are going to be
hiring will have cost to the town that's

829
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:54,560
all I was looking for thank you for the
par application I still feel the 10,000

830
01:28:53,880 --> 01:28:59,800
is
is not appropriate because we're already

831
01:28:56,400 --> 01:29:02,960
using tax income more than
that thank

832
01:29:04,639 --> 01:29:10,000
you any other comments on 40 41 or

833
01:29:10,480 --> 01:29:19,400
42 okay right
along last three article 43 to see if T

834
01:29:17,239 --> 01:29:25,040
ra appropriate the sum of 2,000 for the
purpose of supporting our local Special

835
01:29:21,239 --> 01:29:29,800
Olympics team and St River athletes
uh less than the penny impact by

836
01:29:27,280 --> 01:29:34,239
petition article 44 to see if the town
will vote to raise and appropriate the

837
01:29:31,360 --> 01:29:39,000
some 3,000 for the purpose of supporting
the inter value Chamber of Commerce

838
01:29:36,920 --> 01:29:45,440
marketing efforts P imp is also less
than Penny and article 45 to see the

839
01:29:42,239 --> 01:29:51,119
town goer rais and appropriate the sum
of 5,000 for the purpose of supporting

840
01:29:48,320 --> 01:29:54,800
hostus palive home health and long-term
services from North Country Home Health

841
01:29:53,000 --> 01:30:03,639
and Hostess agency
res of B taxa and by always are you have

842
01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:06,420
a young lady here from the hospice
health and Home Health that would like

843
01:30:05,000 --> 01:30:09,489
to
[Music]

844
01:30:12,960 --> 01:30:21,199
speak so I just wanted to come share
some stats with you for

845
01:30:17,280 --> 01:30:28,639
2024 um so 2024 we made
53,1 162 visits and goon County um and

846
01:30:25,960 --> 01:30:34,119
we experienc 11% increase in the number
of patients that we served with a 14%

847
01:30:30,840 --> 01:30:38,280
rise in our total visits um in gorm we
visited 86

848
01:30:36,159 --> 01:30:46,679
patients or
1,820 times for home health longterm and

849
01:30:43,199 --> 01:30:50,560
um our hosital services um despite the
challenges of rising cost and reduced

850
01:30:48,639 --> 01:30:54,159
reimbursements from insurance company
our country home heal and health

851
01:30:52,320 --> 01:30:57,280
steadfast our commitment to insuring
that no needs to go

852
01:31:01,159 --> 01:31:12,800
without these These funds basically um
fill in for the loss that you have yeah

853
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:12,800
than

854
01:31:25,560 --> 01:31:30,000
I want address this year

855
01:31:30,960 --> 01:31:38,800
person no
money there no money on 14

856
01:31:36,280 --> 01:31:46,800
but I
suspect I saw the article

857
01:31:43,040 --> 01:31:54,679
for giving the board permission to sell
our interest in the Family Resource

858
01:31:51,000 --> 01:31:59,280
builing by wholehearted I mean you know
that I mean I pushed it how many

859
01:31:57,520 --> 01:32:04,679
times
many I do not like the idea of selling a

860
01:32:02,159 --> 01:32:09,000
nonprofit just to be able to keep out
unsavory

861
01:32:06,719 --> 01:32:13,760
businesses that's a million doll
building even if we don't get millions

862
01:32:11,000 --> 01:32:18,199
for it it's a million doll building
should be put on the

863
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:25,080
taxs it should be tried to get it out
for for profit and possibly what they B

864
01:32:22,440 --> 01:32:30,440
housing apartment
whatever but that should be tried first

865
01:32:27,440 --> 01:32:37,560
instead of losing more money them there
a chance to gain good acts

866
01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:44,520
dollars instead of just throwing away
more so Adam just for the benefit you

867
01:32:41,800 --> 01:32:44,520
know I you've

868
01:32:45,840 --> 01:32:55,520
heard people
and um I've been pushing this since you

869
01:32:53,199 --> 01:32:59,239
were on
uh I also sit on the school board I push

870
01:32:57,639 --> 01:33:06,679
it
there Reed not a very positive response

871
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:15,560
so they own 11% of the
building the town owns 89% of the

872
01:33:09,600 --> 01:33:20,880
building what this article does it it is
just give uh some verbal support to the

873
01:33:19,280 --> 01:33:26,159
selectman going
forward it's a wide open field like

874
01:33:24,239 --> 01:33:32,639
anything it's going to be worth what
someone's willing to pay for it and at

875
01:33:29,600 --> 01:33:39,760
the end of the day um the hard reality
is that even though the school own

876
01:33:35,760 --> 01:33:46,679
11% that's that's a if they only own 1%
they would still have e on on anything

877
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:50,400
that we might want to do they can simply
say you know no we're not going to go

878
01:33:48,360 --> 01:33:54,960
along with that and you can't sell a
each simple

879
01:33:52,560 --> 01:34:01,840
property um
yeah one part of it belongs to someone

880
01:33:57,520 --> 01:34:08,679
else and the contract and an agreement
between the town and school and I somewh

881
01:34:05,159 --> 01:34:15,320
convoluted but what we hope to do is to
get the town out of the ownership of

882
01:34:12,639 --> 01:34:20,679
that building because at this point it's
gotten old enough that somebody is going

883
01:34:17,600 --> 01:34:26,199
to start needing to put money aside um
to maintain the building and and the

884
01:34:23,000 --> 01:34:30,760
town has no real use for the structure
the goal was to save the structure you

885
01:34:28,199 --> 01:34:38,080
saved it
$750,000 put into it by a nonprofit they

886
01:34:34,719 --> 01:34:43,199
renovated and so um is it worth a
million dollars well for Workforce

887
01:34:40,400 --> 01:34:50,639
housing um we had two organizations come
through town who would probably given

888
01:34:45,800 --> 01:34:54,239
us but the the hard reality is is that
if the town's people say yes we're okay

889
01:34:53,159 --> 01:34:59,360
with you
taking the next step to take the town's

890
01:34:58,119 --> 01:35:06,400
name off the
deep um the next step is to somehow

891
01:35:04,040 --> 01:35:11,119
negotiate an agreement with the school
only the

892
01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:15,480
11% and I think the minimum we're
looking for is that the town's name is

893
01:35:13,440 --> 01:35:20,719
off that deed and we don't have to start
raising and appropriating money to the

894
01:35:18,280 --> 01:35:25,639
building so that's at the bare minimum
what we want to see and what's actually

895
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:32,639
going toen Happ is kind of a noble right
now but but our first our first goal is

896
01:35:28,840 --> 01:35:39,000
to get permission from the people of gor
to um start working towards getting the

897
01:35:35,760 --> 01:35:43,119
town off of that de and I hope that
answers your question well it does to

898
01:35:40,760 --> 01:35:47,280
the point but like I said at the
meetings I know there's already an

899
01:35:45,119 --> 01:35:54,239
agreement so so going on with a
nonprofit by comments by

900
01:35:50,119 --> 01:35:59,000
Peter and Judy's comment of wanted to
have say over who goes in there for

901
01:35:56,800 --> 01:36:03,000
businesses because we don't want the
unsavory businesses in

902
01:36:01,040 --> 01:36:06,920
there well first of all I don't think
that's our

903
01:36:04,159 --> 01:36:12,800
choice and I really think you should be
pushing to sell it for for-profit first

904
01:36:10,639 --> 01:36:19,440
if it can't happen I agree with you I
want our name off the building I do we

905
01:36:15,199 --> 01:36:24,639
don't need it I'm 100% behind I guess
I'm sorry 89% behind that because

906
01:36:22,360 --> 01:36:30,920
11 but
try and put it on the tax RS first give

907
01:36:27,920 --> 01:36:37,000
it a real old school
try because that would benefit the town

908
01:36:34,159 --> 01:36:44,800
more than just having our name on we
would we would have

909
01:36:39,639 --> 01:36:53,679
to we would have to look at any and all
um offers or interest or I mean we can't

910
01:36:49,560 --> 01:36:58,880
just Market it to nonprofits we would
have to look at everybody who might be

911
01:36:55,920 --> 01:37:02,760
interested in it and take the best deal
and as long as that's the way that would

912
01:37:00,600 --> 01:37:07,800
be great but does not the way it sounded
at the meeting that's what I'm bringing

913
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:13,840
it up for just saying thank you those
comments and now back to our

914
01:37:09,880 --> 01:37:13,840
budget someone else

915
01:37:18,040 --> 01:37:27,239
question earlier it was asked what the
if all oh I'm sorry call M thank you um

916
01:37:25,400 --> 01:37:33,199
I'm just assuming everybody know I'm
sorry so earlier somebody asked what if

917
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:39,719
all of these warrants P what the impact
on the tax rate would be and did I hear

918
01:37:36,040 --> 01:37:45,760
it right that somebody said 84 cents uh
it be assuming all equal which it never

919
01:37:43,520 --> 01:37:51,960
is it would be 81 cents on the municipal
tax rate the school the state not the

920
01:37:48,440 --> 01:37:56,080
county okay but so I to clear up my
confusion in going down through each one

921
01:37:54,239 --> 01:38:03,040
of these you're telling us what the tax
rate impact would

922
01:37:58,840 --> 01:38:08,920
be the total change like one cent or
three cents or five cents yes go through

923
01:38:06,280 --> 01:38:17,280
okay so so when I added them all up I
came up to over $14 not 84 three of them

924
01:38:13,760 --> 01:38:23,880
four of them one is 53 cents one is 21
cents one is 65 cents and one is 44

925
01:38:20,199 --> 01:38:32,239
cents and that's not counting
the that's the amount for the year not

926
01:38:27,400 --> 01:38:41,560
the change okay so if all of these pass
my taxes are only going to go up 84

927
01:38:35,960 --> 01:38:47,119
cents or 81 or 86 or whatever per
thousand for the town for the town

928
01:38:43,960 --> 01:38:47,119
Fortune I I

929
01:38:47,199 --> 01:38:58,480
know okay so has his account
he I look at this as a c so as we get

930
01:38:54,599 --> 01:39:04,560
more revenues in again we do meals and
Road tax get around4 million the Dr the

931
01:39:02,199 --> 01:39:07,400
state says only put down 150 because you
never knew what Comer's going to do you

932
01:39:06,239 --> 01:39:13,840
don't want to put in you're going to get
250 and then only get50 that's bad so we

933
01:39:11,400 --> 01:39:19,560
put in conservative low numbers as we
get more revenues in um that 81 Cent

934
01:39:17,920 --> 01:39:25,719
ceiling you know hopefully that'll come
down to 72 or 78 or 75 things like

935
01:39:23,880 --> 01:39:29,119
but even worst case scenario you're not
saying that the in the individual taxes

936
01:39:28,239 --> 01:39:37,920
for
residents no school is just under $2 per

937
01:39:34,679 --> 01:39:44,760
thousand as it is right now the the
increase the ceiling would be 81 cents

938
01:39:41,639 --> 01:39:50,960
82 cents okay my other quick question is
going back to AR the 14 article 14 I'm

939
01:39:48,480 --> 01:39:55,560
just curious how could that have been
read written where you guys said yeah

940
01:39:53,960 --> 01:40:00,000
that's a good idea let's go out and get
bid proposals you don't like the way it

941
01:39:57,400 --> 01:40:07,920
was written at least that that's what
I'm understanding so what could be taken

942
01:40:03,199 --> 01:40:13,400
out of that article to give you the
incentive to follow your taxpayers

943
01:40:10,679 --> 01:40:19,560
request to at least go get bids uh
simple um the

944
01:40:15,800 --> 01:40:25,800
$75,000 mandate yes is that
what it definitely is and then couple

945
01:40:22,480 --> 01:40:35,119
for that is telling us not to consider
the clerical need in the department and

946
01:40:28,679 --> 01:40:39,000
the the capital expense to um over over
and so then there's there's a number of

947
01:40:37,280 --> 01:40:44,760
other floating things here like this
building and currently there's someone

948
01:40:41,320 --> 01:40:48,480
in this building 247 so you know if we
were just a group of people from town

949
01:40:47,040 --> 01:40:53,800
using this
room you get you get on the calendar you

950
01:40:51,679 --> 01:40:58,800
use the room to go out we don't worry
about it we don't lock the door if

951
01:40:55,560 --> 01:41:05,000
there's someone in here and so we talk
to primx the insurer of the town they

952
01:41:01,920 --> 01:41:10,080
say is the building being monitored yes
there's always someone in the building

953
01:41:06,920 --> 01:41:15,599
they have cameras and and they there's a
physical presence so you work all these

954
01:41:13,280 --> 01:41:20,560
things out all right and then you come
back to the people and say say to the

955
01:41:18,320 --> 01:41:26,920
people all right this is the best deal
we can get on an RFP

956
01:41:23,880 --> 01:41:33,560
and and then you follow on that yeah I I
do understand the workings of an RFP my

957
01:41:30,400 --> 01:41:39,080
my question was more it was evident from
your reactions watching on the zoom

958
01:41:36,599 --> 01:41:44,320
thing whatever um you weren't even going
to consider this you dismissed it right

959
01:41:40,880 --> 01:41:51,880
out of hand that that told me that there
was something about it that you did not

960
01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:56,639
like in trying to find compromise if the
voters are asking you and they did there

961
01:41:54,560 --> 01:42:02,840
was a petition the voters are asking you
to please just research this how do you

962
01:42:00,719 --> 01:42:07,560
want that thing written so you will
approve it and just what I said and and

963
01:42:05,719 --> 01:42:12,080
I've already been through this process
half a dozen times before I no problem

964
01:42:10,040 --> 01:42:19,320
at all I don't think the other sele has
any problem at all um doing an RFP

965
01:42:15,840 --> 01:42:25,080
process it's you just don't just there a
lot of moving parts and really whatever

966
01:42:21,920 --> 01:42:31,000
it is we come up with on that RFP that
RFP and the budgetary impacts and the

967
01:42:28,480 --> 01:42:36,440
changes all of that should come to the
people at town meeting so they can see

968
01:42:33,840 --> 01:42:41,960
exactly what it is they're voting on I I
agree I I understand that my question

969
01:42:39,639 --> 01:42:46,400
just was if in order to get the board of
Selectmen on board no F intended with

970
01:42:45,320 --> 01:42:51,280
the
taxpayers obviously the wording was not

971
01:42:49,199 --> 01:42:56,599
the way you wanted it that's kind of
petty to me but but I get it you're

972
01:42:54,920 --> 01:43:01,360
trying to cover your bases you're
contacting a lawyer blah blah blah I'm

973
01:42:58,960 --> 01:43:06,480
curious who's paying for that lawyer so
every warrant every warrant goes to our

974
01:43:04,119 --> 01:43:13,080
lawyer every warrant goes to the Dr
there was nothing special about that so

975
01:43:08,599 --> 01:43:18,639
that is Mis information everyone goes
to makes makes sense the second part is

976
01:43:16,480 --> 01:43:23,639
our lawyer is scratching her head
because it was so written in a way that

977
01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:29,599
it was not clear to her
what was being requested so there's a

978
01:43:26,800 --> 01:43:33,840
word in there you must accept a bid
that's

979
01:43:30,760 --> 01:43:40,159
75,000 less so it's not just go over an
RFP it says you will when and will

980
01:43:36,719 --> 01:43:48,159
accept so if we went just for the RFP
and took everything out aside that would

981
01:43:44,560 --> 01:43:53,719
would you then actively
research if if this is even possible

982
01:43:51,760 --> 01:43:58,239
cost analysis yes
yeah yes of course of course we thank

983
01:44:02,719 --> 01:44:10,080
you so otherwise that will conclud the
budget hearing for tonight uh town

984
01:44:07,480 --> 01:44:18,679
meeting will be on Tuesday March 11 at
7:00 nor middle high school

985
01:44:13,520 --> 01:44:18,679
gymnasium um now the bud

986
01:44:18,840 --> 01:44:26,400
will schedu meeting to
body