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All right. So, it's uh 6:31. We'll go
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» Okay. John Mort
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» Paul Anderson
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» Colton Martin here.
>> Mr. Wright

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present. And
>> Shawn Mayfield here. Okay. All right.

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I pledge to the flag of the United
States of America and to the republic

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for it stands one nation under God
indivisible with liberty and justice for

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all

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» the
>> um I think that we need to add something

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to the agenda.
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» Okay. Uh last meeting
we tabled until this meeting

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the box and circle discussion.
>> It's on the agenda.

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» Huh?
>> It's on the agenda.

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» It's already
>> it's been added then.

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» No, it's under there allocation for
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that is.
>> Oh, okay.

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» Yeah. So, it's already on the agenda.
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» that's what that is. I I had the same
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was table and I didn't
>> sorry I put I should have put Watson

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circle as part of that but that is what
that is that allocation from reserve for

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that table diode
>> uh under new city business could we add

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uh discussion on conflict of interest

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» under just a
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» yeah that'd be good and that'll be Brian
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» And then uh we've also been uh giving uh
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that they would like to just have a
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uh if we wouldn't mind having that.

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For some reason, we're having a hard
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It's very uh hard to hear you guys
tonight.

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» Are you coming through the mic? It's
just being to speak up. If I turn it up

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» All right. So, we've added that
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going to speak about that.
Uh G Riverside, which I think Dan had

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asked for that, so we'll let him speak
about that or John.

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And then any other adjustments or
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» I'll make a motion to approve the agenda
with the additions of F and G under new

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business.
>> All right, we have a motion and a

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second. public comments. All right, in
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» All right,
we'll move on to our public input time.

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So, anybody that wants to come up and
speak. We got two minutes for anybody.

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» Good evening, Mr. Mayor, council
members. Thank you staff for having me

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this evening. I'm Kristen Pollock and
I'm running for Circuit Court Judge

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Division 2. I'm actually in a runoff. Um
the non office election will be the

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runoff election will be held November
3rd with the the rest of all of the

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candidates on the general ballot. Um
it's a nonpartisan position. So judges

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do not run aligned with either party.
And in fact we'll do a really uh tricky

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job trying not to tell you or give you
an indication of what party we might

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have aligned with in the past or or
where we might vote on certain issues or

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decide on certain issues. And that's
important for everyone because wants you

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to walk into a courtroom and not feel
that you would be judged based on your

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political party or affiliation or what
the judge might think of you. Um, I am a

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trial lawyer. I have been practicing
since 1999.

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My law firm is Miller Butler. We have
offices in downtown Rogers in downtown

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Fagatville. I'm born and bred in
Northwest Arkansas. Lived my whole life

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here. I was originally raised in
Bittenville and have lived here in

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Washington County since 1997. I have
three children. Um, attend school here.

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Um, I attend church at St. Joseph
Catholic Church, which is which is on

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this side of Fateville. And, um, I'm
running for this position because the

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judge that holds it is retiring and he
was a very fine judge and I want to

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follow in his footsteps. I think that I
would ask for each of you who are sort

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of investigating the candidates in this
race to look at trial experience,

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leadership experience, and community
involvement. I think that I will will

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meet all of your satisfaction in those
areas as I have been trying cases for

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more than 27 years. I've been involved
in this community since I graduated from

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law school. right out of the gate and
started giving my time back to the heart

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association, the Junior League of
Northwest Arkansas, our schools, um the

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the food pantry, and various community
efforts. My husband has coached youth

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sports in this area for 20 years. And um
I I have been appointed to some really

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impressive leadership positions by the
governors of the state of Arkansas. And

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that meant a lot to me because as a
lawyer, I believe that integrity um and

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and uh leadership are important pieces
of our profession. It's an honorable

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profession and I want to continue to
serve you as circuit judge of Washington

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and Madison counties. So, thank you very
much for these two and a half minutes

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and I look forward to visit with you
afterwards. I'll stay for questions.

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Thank you.
>> Thank you. Thank you very much.

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» We move on to approval of the minutes.
Any other public comments?

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Have you guys had a chance to look over
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» You want to
meeting?

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» Has anybody else had a chance?
>> Over, but I wasn't here at the last

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meeting, so I don't feel like I can
vouch to the correctness, what have you.

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» I'm good with them.

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What' you say? I said I'm good with
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» Yeah, I was good with them.

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» I wasn't here.
>> It was just the three and Chris.

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» It's not a problem to table. You want to
table?

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» I would like to if that's okay.
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like I make a motion to table the
minutes from the previous meeting.

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» Second it.
>> All right. So, we have a motion and a

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second. Any public comment before we
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Those in favor

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report

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Jerry's gonna go over.

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» Good evening everybody.
um

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general fund July 31st 4858390.
If you guys notice that was a

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significant drop for the prior month. Um
we paid the stage one of the park

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improvements uh which was like 135
$136,000 that came out. We will be

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getting reimbursed for that from um the
grant

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probably mayor 220 225
>> no 26

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» 216,000
>> no 269,000

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» 269,000
>> yeah we spent 315 313,744

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I think was exactly what we spent on the
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» and that's a 2080 match. Yeah.
>> So we get 80% of that back. So, we'll

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get most of that money back to the
account and then we will disperse the

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rest of that in 2027.
>> No, it's it's all been paid. We've paid

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everything's
been paid.

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» Okay. My mistake
timing of that Norton timing of the of

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getting paid back from
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there was an error that when Kashana
sent over the big tabulation to ARD dot

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it was the incorrect alternative
deduction. So the amount that they had

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on file was 297
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» 297 but it was really 313. It was
$17,000 I think was the difference. And

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so we ended up having to contact AR dot
and then show them minutes from the

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meeting on the alternative deductions
that we had actually um approved and

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then that the total amount was 313744.
So that's why I know that number so well

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is we've been talking about that that
wasn't before act on their part of the

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paperwork that they received initially
and so we're editing that but we should

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get reimbursement within the next I
would say within the next month and a

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half.
>> It just depends on our those, but

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usually
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quick about reimbursing us in the past
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So, I would say probably within a month
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» and I think that the correction was just
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so my number is all about that.
>> Um, but anyway, we should be getting

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those funds back into the general fund
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normally maintain.
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grant,5912
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with all the interest on those accounts.
I will want you guys will all need to

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know that because those accounts have
been inactive for so long said that we

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were going to have to deposit something
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» So that's right.
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amount dollar $2 something just to keep
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» So you may see that transfer on next
month's statement. That's what that is.

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» and the reason we have those accounts
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when we get the funds back from grants
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they wire it directly to that dot
account and then we move that from our

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account back into the general fund.
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that works.

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Um on the statement of revenues again
you notice that we don't have anything

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budgeted for interest expense we will
take interest income we'll we'll take

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make that correction when we do the
budget for 207

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we'll allocate an amount for estimated
interest expense uh best maybe from the

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CDs um pretty straightforward we're
actually on schedule with our revenue

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expense projections
um we're running just slightly under at

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this point in time because we haven't
done our improvement monies from the uh

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state for general register as usually
comes in. So we should see that but we

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should balance according to schedule
where we thought we would be. So any

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questions

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right I'll entertain a motion to
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motion.
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Make a motion to approve mental second.
>> All right. So motion and a second. Any

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public comment before we vote
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» I
will move on to our report. Travis for

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you.
>> All right. For the month of July, we had

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seven citations, 56 warnings, one
warrant for a total of 60. Yeah. 64

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documents completed from that. Calls for
service. We had 125 with 142 unit total.

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So any questions on that?

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» Thanks, Jason.

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» I do want to uh commend Brian. We're
actually starting to see some changes in

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our stuff. So
>> wonderful. It's kind of nice to have

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somebody who actually prosecute stuff.
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» He's got to pay his salary.

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» Thank you, Chief Travis.
>> I want to department. We have a new

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police officer that started um they
doing such a great job and uh even after

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Jesse [clears throat] retired, Doug has
picked up doing a lot of the things that

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Jesse have been doing uh far as like
some of our step grant stuff. So we've

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seen that growth with all of them. Thank
you, Chief Travis. All right. I think on

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that note,
I think that the when we hire a new

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employee, whether it be city hall or
police department, that they should come

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to the first meeting
that we had that we have after they've

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been hired to introduce them.

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I mean, you can request that, but I'm
not going to request that of them to

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come to a meeting just after they've
been hired. Um, this takes time away

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from their family. That's not really
part of the job description.

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» I'm not saying they have to stay in the
whole meeting.

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» I think requiring that is it goes above
and beyond measure is of their their

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position. Right.
>> So,

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you guys
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retirement. Was it any type of a
retirement type of

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party so to speak for him?
>> Yeah, he was he actually so when one of

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us retires from the department of course
he gets his retirement plus he gets his

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sick time his vacation time but we also
allow them to keep their service weapon

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and they have the option to purchase
their duty rifle and their duty shotgun

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so fair market price.
>> I just didn't know from a community

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standpoint a way to thank him for his
his service. You'll get we have still

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have to worry his retirement batch.
You'll get that as well. But as far as

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like a party or anything like that, we
pretty much just keep as a symbol

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between us.
[clears throat]

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We'll move on to the infrastructure
facilities report.

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So for July 2026, City Park, they
replace the water faucet and park

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entrance. For some reason,
it's this number three for frost

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rehydrants. I not worked there, but I
guess we got a couple of duds and

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they've had to pull them up or replace
them because they were leaky.

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» So,
>> they can be tricky sometimes.

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» Yeah.
>> Is is there do you guys are have you

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back filled around them with gravel?
>> Oh, yeah. Put in right. But just for

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whatever reason, the actual mechanisms
we even had come out look at it. thought

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[clears throat] maybe we could replace
some stuff, but it was just a bad

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dehydrant. The irrigation system on the
south park. There was some sprinkler

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heads that need to be fixed. They fixed
those. Continued mowing at city parks

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along Highway 45
trails. Uh brush performed vertical

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trimming along city streets. Uh sprayed
roundup around city street signs.

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repaired washed out ground radio ground
entrance on the way Spring Park Lane

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after the rain damage and then uh they
did surface Spring Park Lane this last

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week. So it is now paved. So that is
complete. cleaned up city streets after

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the storm. Installed a note truck sign
on fire tower and then maintenance. and

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cleared dirt work behind the new city
street part shop and large rocks filled

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with uh low areas leveled the ground
spread seed uh painted the outdoor dog

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kennels continued mowing weedings the
all community building

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the pond in the field beside the
community building installed a new

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dumping sign continued improving the
street department shop by installing

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cabinets purchased uniforms for their uh
street department staff performed

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general maintenance at community
building reinstalled the uh doors stop.

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We needed the rain guards out of trash
bags. Place brake pads and Ford

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Explorer. Inspected the community
building roof in preparation for

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repairing the framework.
Future projects build an information

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kiosk at the community building. Uh
install an ice maker at city hall.

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Complete the creek access point and park
entrance. Repair the community building

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roof. and then level the ground at the
north park entrance where the stops will

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ground. They've actually done that.
Questions?

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We'll move on to the fire district
report.

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See here
like there were

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eight calls for service

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questions about those.

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All right,
we'll move on to our planning commission

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report.

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So, there were uh this month
uh there were actually two

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items on the uh planning commission and
one was

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just a lot adjustment. the fee and it
was approved. And then there was another

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one that was on the agenda that ended up
getting sent back for the person to um

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finish. There were some missing doc
document pieces that were needed for

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them to be able to make decision so
they're going to bring it back to the

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next next planning commission.

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That's it.

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building inspection report.

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» Good evening. It appears I did 20 field
inspections during the month of July. Um

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on my report there it does have some
incomplete information on completed

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dates, some of the inspection types and
inspection status. My iPad needed some

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updates would communicate with the uh
reporting system. Appreciate Abby. She

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spent a few days talking with them and
figured it out and get my iPad back up

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hopefully next month. Everything.

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» Thank [clears throat] you, J.

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All right.

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» Uh during the July meeting, the
committee worked on updates to the city

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uh map for the city's website as long as
as well as the plans to replace the

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kiosk on the north entrance. Uh the
updated map will include the R dot maze

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2 trail future R dot maze 2 trail the
pavilion the south entrance and the new

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additional acreage as well as the
expansion expanding and trail system. We

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anticipate having the map finalized at
our August meeting. Uh Mike continues to

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work on improving the trail system
throughout the park, helping enhance

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accessibility and overall appearance for
park users. Any questions?

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» Thanks, Daniel.
All right, we'll move on to our old city

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business
item a the TDSOP meeting ordinance.

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We did a first reading of the ordinance
at last meeting, but we were not able to

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approve it or the uh emergency clause
because we didn't have at least four

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council persons present to vote on it.
So, if we want to go ahead and the

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second reading and then to the emergency
clause, we could go ahead and

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if
>> y'all want to adopt it tonight, we would

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need to suspend the rules and wave the
third reading.

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» Yeah.
>> Uh

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pass it tonight.

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» You need this passed tonight, Chief?
>> Yeah. especially the ACIC policy because

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we're out of compliance right now until
it gets passed.

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» So all uh

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there's three of them, isn't there?
>> Yep.

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» No, it's just one ordinance.
>> Three, correct?

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» S
need a motion to

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suspend the ROS and read title only.
>> Wave third reading

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» and wave the third reading.
>> Yes, sir.

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» I'll make that motion.
>> Second. So, we have a motion and a

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second to spend rules in my third
reading. Second and third reading.

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[clears throat] Any public comment
before roll call vote? All right. Roll

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call vote.

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» Paul Anderson.
>> Yes.

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» Yes.
>> Bond.

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» Yes.
>> Court.

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» Yes.
>> Mayfield.

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» Yes.
an ordinance amending the standard

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operating procedure manual which was
adopted by ordinance number 189 and as

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amended by ordinance number 195 and 228.
>> Motion to adopt.

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» Second.
>> A motion to adopt and a second public

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comment before we vote. All right. Roll
call vote.

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» Anderson.
>> Yes.

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» Martin.
>> Yes.

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» Curtis Bond. Yes.
>> John Bartford.

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» Yes.
>> Yes.

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» Motion to adopt the emergency clause.
>> Second.

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» A motion to adopt the emergency clause
and second. Any public comment before we

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vote? Roll call vote.

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» Okay. Paul Anderson.
>> Yes. Martin,

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» yes.
>> Yes.

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» John Bell,
>> yes.

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» Yes.
>> Right.

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» So, we'll move on to the next item on
the agenda, which is the L land

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annexation ordinance. Uh, it's the same
thing that we read it for first reading.

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If we want to adopt it, we need to do
clause. I would say that this is

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probably a good idea to adopt the
emergency clause because there's two

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families in that area that able to
change their voting rights within Goan.

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One of those residents expressed a
desire to be able to vote in Go

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if uh
>> we're missing a DM I'm guessing ant

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after the and the first whereas

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I think we are unless we

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Yes. Yeah.

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» Billy never.

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» You know what I did? [laughter]
>> And

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on you know what it means.
>> I know. [laughter]

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We can make sure that's fixed before it
printed out. So [laughter]

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[clears throat]

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I talk. So that's up to the council. But
you guys want

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to do a second reading. You want to do
the suspend the rule. Wait a second

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reading.

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I'm for suspending the rules.
>> You did.

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» It doesn't matter.
>> Whatever you guys want to do.

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» Well, I'm trying to put myself in there
for shoes.

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» Yeah.
>> Well, I understand that, but at the same

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time, this could have shown up anytime
in the past multiple years, too. So, to

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me to say it, I'm not sure that it truly
qualifies as emergency. Yes,

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» we do maintain this trip of road that
goes right through there

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» and we've been maintaining it for the
last,

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» you know, 20 years. Even though it's
county,

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» even though there's a sign that says
it's county,

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» but they don't maintain it. So,
>> there's a lot of roads, the county

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doesn't maintain that county.
>> It's clearly within our city.

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Yeah.

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» And even if we approve it next time,
next meeting,

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» I just I can still vote.
>> Well, you have to do the emergency

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class.
>> It'll you'll only second reading

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tonight, the 3 next month, and it
passed, then it it waits 90 days to be

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updated without the emergency. That's
the significance of that. And it still

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has to get filed at the county too. So
we still have to file all this with

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Northwest planning and the names to
change our so it takes a little bit of

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time to get all that through.
>> And we have we talked to everybody

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that's going to be impacted by this.

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There's really only three residents. So
it's the gentleman that has the little

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tiny house, the old Kennedy house. It's
Greg's old house there. And then

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Charles, which Charles, it's all just
land.

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That's nice. Good question.
>> What is the benefit of waiting?

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» I mean,
>> it it's not about benefit, it's about

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process.
>> Yeah.

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» Kind of following due process as far as
if somebody did decide to have some sort

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of objection, if they rush it through on
something that's not an emergency, they

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have lost the ability to have the
opportunity to have their say. But I

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will say this has already gone planning
commission. It's been discussed in

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planning commission and it's been
discussed here now at least once now

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twice.
>> Mr. Lang was in attendance last time.

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» He was. Yeah.
>> Why would there

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» not for you vote on that pull one vote?
>> Yeah.

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» I don't care. You guys decide. I don't
know which direction you guys want to

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take with it. Just let it take its
normal course.

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Okay.
Are you guys discussing?

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How many you want? How many you want to
go?

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» Somebody can make a motion for reading.
>> Okay. I'll make a motion to read in to

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title only the ordinance accepting the
annexation.

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» Second reading.
>> This be a second reading.

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» Yes. without emergency clause or without
the third

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» emergency clause
in way of this second.

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Okay,
>> a motion a second. Any public comment?

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» Sean was a second.
>> All right, roll call vote.

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» Holly Anderson,
>> yes.

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» Martin,
>> yes.

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» Curtis Von,
>> yes.

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» Bordial,
>> yes.

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An ordinance accepting the annexation of
certain territory to the city of Gan,

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approving the schedule of services to be
extended to set area and assigning such

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area to a ward

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reading.
>> Oh,

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you have to approve the reading. Make a
motion to approve the reading as read.

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Second. We have a motion by John and a
second by John Mayfield. The public

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comment. All right. Public actually one
question in the public comment section

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and this just goes back to the citizens
question. I don't know if we gave her a

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proper answer but she said what harm
would they going to be and we just said

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due process but did they have a chance
to anybody that wanted to object to it

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have a previous chance as before?
So I don't know if that was a sufficient

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answer.
Historically, we have had people that

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miss the
first or second type meetings that

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happened with something like this and
then they have come back and been upset

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with us because we passed it through
when they did want to have something to

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say on something that they see as
something that's not an emergency.

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» How often has that happened?
>> It has happened. But if that is you know

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if people do again you know it has
happened probably three or four times

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but for those individuals that if we
didn't follow the due process um you

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know that has an impact to them too it's
again

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» I guess I just failed to understand why
annexation of somebody's property is

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going to affect anybody else in the city
of goan negatively.

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that they would have an objection to it
when it's only affecting this one

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family.
>> Well, there's three

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» or three families. Sorry.
>> We had an opportunity to talk about this

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before and then we I hear you, John.
Then we made it and it was time to vote.

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Am I correct?
>> Sorry, I don't understand the question.

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He's just saying that um he's saying
we've gone through this process or we've

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made the motions.
>> We made the motions. We moved ahead

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and we voted
and we moved ahead

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and it was time for Gina to
>> Yeah, we are at roll call. This was that

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public comment section before you vote.
That's this section. So every time

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before we vote on something I have to
ask if there's any public comment and

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there was. So that's why I asked. Now
we're it's still up for the same vote,

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this roll call vote for this item of the
second reading.

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» So do we have do we have do we have
standards

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um that determines whether when we use
emergency clause for issues that may

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come up? We don't have any
>> I mean it's

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» it's basically it's how we determine it
or the board city council and it is

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of of that nature. I mean there's
>> I'm just asking questions because I

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don't know how you apply those to where
there have been instances where um most

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of the time something comes up and I've
never seen it be an issue with extending

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the emergency clause but with this one
issue just seems like it's just

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a matter of time you're approving it.
Uh, and I understand the process. I

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understand that totally. But on every
other issue that's we've come up with um

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exord ordinances or other things that we
approve, you've done the emergency

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clause without even batting an eye. And
then this situation, it seems like

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there's really no reason for you not to
besides just process. So I'm just trying

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to figure out what standards are you
applying to when to do it and when not

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to do it. But the the issue right now,
Jerry, is not as to the eerence clause.

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The issue is whether or not the third
reading was being waved to have this.

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» I understand. It's just that I was
following up on her question to make

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sure she got a sufficient uh response to
her question. I didn't think that it was

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» appropriately
answered for her in the first part. So I

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mean my view of an emergency clause is
that if there's something that we

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pressing you know that would be
something that we would be concerned

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about as a city
without doing the emergency clause then

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at that point it would be very
imperative to en enact the emergency

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clause. In this scenario I don't know
that it does or doesn't affect anything.

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I mean, the only reason I would see that
we would want to do the emergency

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clause, it's because we've been
maintaining a road that's within this

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jurisdiction that we're annexing for
many years and there's people there that

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would like to vote in the upcoming
election within the city. I don't know

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that it matters. You know, do people
that that would be my only reason for

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why
>> want to enact it. The council has chosen

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not to do that. So we are not voting on
the emergency clause or the waving of

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the second and third reading. Right now
just voting on the second reading. So

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we've moved on from that.
>> I was just I was giving her

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clarification.
>> Does that help?

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» That does help me. Thank you very much.
>> All right. Uh

437
00:34:55,599 --> 00:34:59,040
okay. Paul Anderson.
>> Yes. Martin.

438
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:01,040
» Yes. Bond.
>> Yes. Valent.

439
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,880
» Yes.
>> I may be.

440
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:05,880
» Yes.
>> Okay.

441
00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:11,960
We'll bring that back for a third
meeting next meeting.

442
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:19,680
All right. Now, we can move on to item C
of the old agenda, the allocation from

443
00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:23,599
street fund reserve balance. What that
is referring to is that at the last

444
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:28,320
meeting, for those that weren't in
attendance,

445
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:32,960
we would like to surface Watson Circle,
but when I got a bid estimate on what it

446
00:35:30,960 --> 00:35:39,200
would cost to surface it, it's right at
$62,000.

447
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:45,040
That would put us right at either
our limit, the street fund, or maybe

448
00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:51,280
even a few thousand over. Um and that is
without being able to utilize even more

449
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:56,480
money for tree removal. My concern is if
we do need more larger tree removal then

450
00:35:54,320 --> 00:36:03,200
we wouldn't have money to do that by the
end of the year without you know going

451
00:35:59,280 --> 00:36:08,000
to some of our reserve. Uh, so my
request was before I go out and get bids

452
00:36:05,760 --> 00:36:13,200
and bring those back, wouldn't you guys
be okay with allocating that extra

453
00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:18,640
possible $20,000
for that so that if we needed tree

454
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:21,680
removal for the end of the year, we
still would be able to have money to do

455
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:27,359
that without, you know,
>> when you were asking them, you know,

456
00:36:24,320 --> 00:36:32,800
this rough estimate to begin with, uh,
did that include them doing some grading

457
00:36:30,720 --> 00:36:36,720
on that road because there are some
pretty serious humps on that road that

458
00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:39,040
» it's leveling and grading and then
>> I just want to make sure.

459
00:36:37,440 --> 00:36:41,680
» Yeah. Putting in the asphalt and that's
3 in of asphalt. That's what I asked

460
00:36:40,960 --> 00:36:45,680
for.
>> How wide is that? Uh

461
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:51,200
» so they're not going to they're I think
the bid includes 16 ft which is about

462
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:55,440
what the road width is. Now there's not
a lot of room to widen it past that

463
00:36:53,119 --> 00:36:57,359
because of the way that it's designed.
There's trees that are in the way. We

464
00:36:56,720 --> 00:37:00,400
would have to take out
>> old road.

465
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:04,400
» It is. I mean, I would tell you that the
people that live on that road would

466
00:37:02,079 --> 00:37:08,000
probably be pleased with 16 feet of
asphalt, you know, paved road.

467
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,680
» Um,
>> how do we change

468
00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:14,960
at that point?
>> You can still get by 16 ft.

469
00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:18,160
» Well,
>> so

470
00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:22,560
» we have several roads in the city, city
streets. It it doesn't get a lot of

471
00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:27,359
traffic on it because there are just a
few roads on it. What what happens with

472
00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:34,960
the
egress and ingress? Um

473
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:39,920
» those are not white either. Do we have
to bring those up to standards with what

474
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:44,160
the
county is saying for entrances?

475
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:47,760
» What are you talking about?
>> The county or the state?

476
00:37:46,240 --> 00:37:52,240
» I don't know what you're talking about.
Are you talking about the driveways?

477
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:55,599
You're talking about the
from 45.

478
00:37:53,280 --> 00:38:01,680
» Well, those are existing. That highway
45 entrance is already asphalted.

479
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:06,480
» There's a 25 or 30 foot apron on Highway
45 on the easement already. We're not

480
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:11,520
talking about doing anything with that.
This is just asphalt from there all the

481
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:15,119
way around Watson Circle is where the
the bid takes place. I mean, that's

482
00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:21,079
where we would put it out for bid is
that area. But you're you're looking at

483
00:38:21,599 --> 00:38:28,960
you're not sure whether that $20,000
is going to be

484
00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:32,880
» I don't know if we'll need it cuz if we
have a storm come through and I have to

485
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:37,760
have trees taken out, we're going to
have to get into that $20,000 set aside

486
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:44,000
for tree removal.
>> Okay, that's good. But then then you

487
00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:48,400
have a fact of
what were you cut for bid a verbal bid

488
00:38:47,040 --> 00:38:50,000
» a verbal bid
>> uh

489
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:52,560
» 62,000
>> a month ago month and a half ago

490
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:57,040
remember that was
>> yeah I mean we may put it out for bid it

491
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:59,920
may come in you know I may get a bid
less than that I may get all bids that

492
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:05,920
are over that I don't know
>> I would say that all bids just from

493
00:39:03,359 --> 00:39:14,400
what's going on in the world
okay oil prices have skyrocketed and may

494
00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:20,880
still skyrocket more and I think that
the bids are going to come in

495
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:23,520
much higher than what you recorded a
month and a half ago.

496
00:39:21,839 --> 00:39:26,400
» I'm going to disagree with that. That's
just not what I've seen with the bids

497
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:29,920
we've been getting on.
>> But the Spring Park, you said it was

498
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:33,520
paid how did the
>> that we actually got it decreased from

499
00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:38,079
what the bid was. Okay. So the bid was
for 67,000 and we ended up getting it

500
00:39:35,760 --> 00:39:42,960
paid for 663
I think is what we ended up um paying in

501
00:39:41,599 --> 00:39:46,400
total.
>> I mean is this something that we really

502
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:51,040
have to decide tonight or can we get the
bids in and see those through them and

503
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:54,640
move them out there and asking companies
to give me bids from five different

504
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:58,240
companies if I'm not going to be able to
allocate the funds. I think that's a

505
00:39:56,240 --> 00:40:02,800
waste. I think it's it's it it doesn't
improve relationships that I have with

506
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:07,839
all of those contractors. Um, so
>> well it's the first time that we've had

507
00:40:05,680 --> 00:40:12,000
to as a city that we've had to back out
because bids come in way higher than

508
00:40:09,599 --> 00:40:16,800
what we expect. That's all I understand.
>> But I also think that before I go out

509
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:19,839
and allocate money for that kind of a
project, I need to know what council

510
00:40:19,119 --> 00:40:23,599
» we do have.
>> We've got other projects we can do.

511
00:40:21,680 --> 00:40:28,000
» We do have the $20,000 that we can
allocate from capital funds. Okay. For

512
00:40:26,640 --> 00:40:30,160
this year, we still got plenty of
capital funds.

513
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:36,160
» Well, I mean, it's in the street fund.
Yeah. No, I'm sorry.

514
00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:39,680
» Our street fun reserve is 200.
>> So you're just saying from So it's not

515
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:45,280
coming out of the general fun.
>> No, it's

516
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:48,920
» I I don't have a she doing that. The
rest of you guys feel

517
00:40:49,839 --> 00:40:55,520
» Yeah. I just need to know which
direction I need to I need to mobilize

518
00:40:54,079 --> 00:40:58,800
to get bits there or do I need to get
bids on something else that we're

519
00:40:56,960 --> 00:41:04,160
planning to do with other streets?
That's that's all.

520
00:41:02,319 --> 00:41:08,319
» My main concern is driving through
there. It's just very very narrow.

521
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:13,680
» It [clears throat] is very narrow.
>> You know, my parents now, my brother

522
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:18,319
also live on that street, that road. Um,
and when I'm in and out of there on a

523
00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:22,640
regular basis, it is narrow, but um,
typically you're not running into, you

524
00:41:20,880 --> 00:41:26,480
know, there are few enough people that
live on that street that it's very, very

525
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:30,240
rare that you run into somebody that's
coming out at the same time as you. So,

526
00:41:28,319 --> 00:41:32,319
» and just be aware that Spring Park Lane
is 14 and 16 ft.

527
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,520
» Mhm.
>> And that's because that's how wide they

528
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:40,720
were.
>> That's Yeah. Yeah. You just can't

529
00:41:37,520 --> 00:41:46,720
» Well, the other thing Yeah. Sorry. The
other thing about um you know, Watson

530
00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:51,119
Circle is that it's a circle. So, like
that helps a lot as far as it needing to

531
00:41:49,359 --> 00:41:55,599
be wide enough to accommodate two
vehicles comfortably. It's really not an

532
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:59,200
issue because, you know, because it is a
circle and there's plenty of driveways

533
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:02,240
along there, too. So, they can move
aside to accommodate other traffic.

534
00:42:01,119 --> 00:42:07,880
» Fairly flat,
>> you know, through there. You can get out

535
00:42:04,160 --> 00:42:07,880
easily on the edge.

536
00:42:09,760 --> 00:42:16,800
» It's one of the last roads that the city
has that the city maintains that's not

537
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:21,119
asphalted. The difficulty we have with
maintaining that with gravel is because

538
00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:24,720
the overhead canopy of trees, you can't
go in there and tailgate that and you

539
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:27,920
have to dump piles of gravel at the
beginning and hire someone to come in

540
00:42:26,240 --> 00:42:32,319
and actually spread the gravel. We can't
do it as a city staff. We actually have

541
00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:34,880
to hire a crew that comes in with a
greater.

542
00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:38,000
» That was my concern with getting fired
down there to be quite honest with the

543
00:42:36,560 --> 00:42:43,119
canopy. It's one of those roads that
needs to be paved because it gets pretty

544
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:52,480
rough at times and it's hard on units
too, especially the ingresses. It's

545
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:57,520
time.
>> I'm okay with it.

546
00:42:55,760 --> 00:43:03,520
» I just need a motion and a second. You
guys vote.

547
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:10,720
I'll make a motion to
allocate $20,000

548
00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:15,359
potentially out of the um reserve funds
of the city street

549
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:19,599
account to
pay circle.

550
00:43:17,760 --> 00:43:24,800
» Second.
>> Any other public comment before we vote?

551
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:30,040
All right. All those in favor?
I I

552
00:43:26,319 --> 00:43:30,040
» Let's do roll call.

553
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:35,440
Anderson. Yes. Colton Martin.
>> Yes.

554
00:43:34,720 --> 00:43:37,119
» Bruce Bond.
>> Yes.

555
00:43:35,839 --> 00:43:38,560
» Don Balanc Court.
>> Yes.

556
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,520
» Mayfield.
>> Yes.

557
00:43:39,599 --> 00:43:48,160
» Okay.
>> Let me let me ask one question on that.

558
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:54,400
We've approved it to be moved,
but will we move it now

559
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:58,079
till we get the bids and decide whether
we want to move ahead? Oh, well, you

560
00:43:56,720 --> 00:44:01,040
have to decide on the bids when we get
them.

561
00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:05,440
» All we all you allocate for me is that
we could go over a little bit if we

562
00:44:02,480 --> 00:44:08,079
needed to to be able to get the
weight. So, we wouldn't move that now.

563
00:44:07,440 --> 00:44:11,599
We we
>> No, now I go out and get bits and bring

564
00:44:09,920 --> 00:44:16,000
them hopefully back in the beginning.
Then you guys can be good.

565
00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:21,680
» That was my question.
>> Then the ones we got an estimate for.

566
00:44:18,720 --> 00:44:25,200
» Yeah. Now we move to I go out and do the
work to get the the bids back to you

567
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:27,359
guys and then you guys open them and you
decide whether you want to do them or

568
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:30,000
not. So
>> Okay.

569
00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:35,040
» All right. Uh new city business. We'll
move on to that. So um for those of you

570
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:41,440
that were not aware, Birch Wright has
resigned from the city council secondary

571
00:44:37,040 --> 00:44:47,040
to some uh work issues uh with his uh
searching employment. So um because of

572
00:44:44,319 --> 00:44:51,520
that we are at a point where we need to
appoint somebody to fill that position.

573
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:58,800
So appointing somebody would fill the
position for the duration of Burchie's

574
00:44:53,680 --> 00:45:05,520
term which would expire in uh 1.8
December 31st 2028. So, um, I contacted

575
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:11,280
Ken Hanley, who lives in Waterford,
who's here tonight, uh, and he has

576
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:15,040
graciously agreed to accept that
position should the council want

577
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:20,480
anything
pointing him to that position. So, um,

578
00:45:19,591 --> 00:45:24,079
[clears throat]
I sent out a little information about

579
00:45:22,319 --> 00:45:29,280
Ken to all of you guys. I don't know if
you've had a chance to read it. And

580
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:34,240
then, you want to say anything?
>> Yes, absolutely. U thanks again mayor

581
00:45:32,000 --> 00:45:40,480
for uh reaching out and asking if I'd be
interested lived in go since uh 2013 for

582
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:46,000
13 years. So uh love it out here. Plan
on opening a store uh next to the Dollar

583
00:45:44,079 --> 00:45:49,520
General store. Haven't quite lined out
exactly what we're going to do there,

584
00:45:47,359 --> 00:45:54,000
but for now I'm going to office out of
there. A landscape contractor in Norris

585
00:45:51,839 --> 00:45:59,040
Arkansas. Live in Gan and spend a lot of
time in Genan. So uh working in Goan

586
00:45:56,720 --> 00:46:03,760
building houses here. So, uh, happy to
serve. Um, glad I didn't have to politic

587
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:08,160
to to get the spot, but something that I
felt like was coming. Uh, as I got

588
00:46:06,079 --> 00:46:12,960
older, uh, spend a little bit more time
in the community to see what I can do to

589
00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:16,079
help grow it. So, appreciate the
opportunity.

590
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:19,079
» Appreciate you being here. You're
welcome.

591
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:24,880
» So, that brings us to item number two,
which is the appointment of new city

592
00:46:22,319 --> 00:46:29,599
council member. I will make a motion to
read the resolution

593
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:35,520
electing Kim Hanley
um in total.

594
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:37,599
» We need to accept Burch's resolation
first or no?

595
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:40,839
» He's resigning.
>> He's resigning.

596
00:46:43,359 --> 00:46:46,680
» I'll second.

597
00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:52,880
» I uh I did some background research on
you and your neighbors only had good

598
00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:57,359
things to say. Thank you. I appreciate
it. [laughter]

599
00:46:54,800 --> 00:47:01,280
» I got the same.
>> I actually had an extensive conversation

600
00:46:59,520 --> 00:47:05,839
with B [laughter] and he spoke very
highly. Thank you.

601
00:47:03,359 --> 00:47:11,200
» Yep. I only had two people I knew that
might be interested and you were one.

602
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:17,520
Bur recommended you very highly. So
that's why I made the phone call. So um

603
00:47:14,880 --> 00:47:22,079
so we have a resolution and with a
motion and a second on the table. Any

604
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:25,200
other public comment before we move? All
right. All those in favor?

605
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:30,000
» I.
>> Resolution electing Ken Hanley to serve

606
00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:34,119
on the city council for the unexpired
term of Birch. Wright.

607
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:40,400
» Thank you.
>> Make a motion to approve the resol.

608
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:45,440
» Second.
>> Have a motion to approve the resolution

609
00:47:42,319 --> 00:47:49,680
and a second. Any public comment board?
All those in favor?

610
00:47:47,920 --> 00:47:53,560
» All right. So,
>> welcome. Welcome.

611
00:47:53,760 --> 00:47:58,119
» Now, all you got to do is get sworn in.

612
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:05,363
» Maybe just warn if uh you have yet.
[laughter]

613
00:48:06,560 --> 00:48:13,359
» I can find it just yet.
>> So, we'll move on to the next item on

614
00:48:11,599 --> 00:48:17,720
the agenda, which is appointing new
zoning official Abby Bryan.

615
00:48:18,079 --> 00:48:21,079
Originally,

616
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:33,440
I will say that, you know, my plan was
to have Eddie Mashburn fill in as zoning

617
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:36,400
official and Eddie has been now with us
for

618
00:48:35,040 --> 00:48:39,760
months now.
>> Correct.

619
00:48:37,119 --> 00:48:44,160
» So, um, he's done a lot of the training
and permitting. Um what we quickly

620
00:48:42,319 --> 00:48:49,280
realized is Abby because she's in the
office 100% of the time and she's been

621
00:48:47,119 --> 00:48:53,760
acting as permit coordinator zoning
official. Um technically I'm zoning

622
00:48:52,559 --> 00:49:00,400
official because there's not been one
appointed since uh Lacy's uhation.

623
00:48:57,680 --> 00:49:05,440
So uh but she's been working with me. We
do plan on having her go to it's called

624
00:49:02,559 --> 00:49:09,280
a city planner class that certification
for city planning. But she's done a

625
00:49:07,359 --> 00:49:12,559
great job with that. She's had questions
along the way which I've been there to

626
00:49:10,720 --> 00:49:17,440
help field and we also make phone calls
to North Arkansas Region Planning. Um

627
00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:23,839
and then we reference our own ordinances
because that's where we always refer

628
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:28,599
back to. So but um at this point
she's also going to be doing our

629
00:49:25,119 --> 00:49:28,599
permitting in

630
00:49:28,720 --> 00:49:32,359
» Oh what is

631
00:49:33,359 --> 00:49:39,680
» so he's our director of facilities
management now. So he's moved more into

632
00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:45,040
that. Well, we realized after Lacy's
termination that it did not take the

633
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:50,079
entire full-time to do what she was
doing. And so a lot of those duties

634
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:53,599
ended up being done by Abby. So at that
point when he came in, we knew we were

635
00:49:51,760 --> 00:49:57,200
going to help get him in with permitting
because of his construction background.

636
00:49:55,200 --> 00:50:01,359
And he still comes in and helps Abby
look at like a building permit. Someone

637
00:49:59,920 --> 00:50:05,520
brings a building permit in, he come in
and look at it, say, "Yep, this all

638
00:50:03,520 --> 00:50:09,599
looks kosher." uh they look at it
together and then they go through it.

639
00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:13,359
Then they can move it on to either
approval or to landing commission at

640
00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:17,920
that point.
>> Looking at the plans that

641
00:50:15,040 --> 00:50:22,559
» looking at the plans.
>> So that's been a big help for her and

642
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:26,240
for him. Um, and we really spent
probably the best part of two months in

643
00:50:24,559 --> 00:50:31,839
the beginning of Eddie's employment just
in the office doing permitting,

644
00:50:28,559 --> 00:50:35,839
planning, zoning, looking at ordinances,
and then we started moving in towards

645
00:50:33,440 --> 00:50:39,440
infrastructure facilities. What I needed
was I needed somebody who could be

646
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:43,280
charge of that department because every
single day I was calling and saying,

647
00:50:41,200 --> 00:50:46,400
"What's on your agenda today? What what
are you guys doing? What's your next

648
00:50:44,880 --> 00:50:50,800
steps?"
Eddie's somebody who I can say, "We need

649
00:50:48,640 --> 00:50:54,720
these things done." and then he can go
get all the things and then bring it

650
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:58,640
back to me. Like the kiosk, we texted me
this morning about the kiosk. He had

651
00:50:56,160 --> 00:51:01,760
gotten good on all the lumber prices,
how to put it together. He has the

652
00:51:00,000 --> 00:51:06,079
knowledge and skill to do that without
me having to go down there or hire

653
00:51:03,200 --> 00:51:12,480
somebody else to do it. And so him in
that role has been hugely beneficial to

654
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:18,960
all of us. I think Abby can attest to
that. Anybody at city hall can attest to

655
00:51:14,640 --> 00:51:23,920
that. Um, so that's why Abby is now in
the role of being more zoning official

656
00:51:20,720 --> 00:51:27,839
because she's at city hall 247. Well,
during open business hours,

657
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:32,720
» you'd be surprised at how many phone
calls we get for building planning. So,

658
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:38,200
» and JD, you may want to speak about
Aby's performance and how she's been

659
00:51:35,200 --> 00:51:38,200
doing.

660
00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:44,880
» I'll speak on Aby's behalf. She's since
she's taken over in that role, filled in

661
00:51:42,480 --> 00:51:48,960
that role, things have ran smoothly. Um,
she's not afraid to reach out and ask

662
00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:53,040
questions. She'll research and come up
with the right answer or collectively

663
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:56,079
will come up with the right answer. If
I'm out in the field and I have a

664
00:51:54,400 --> 00:52:00,160
question, she's quick to jump in the
Jeep and come meet me meet with the

665
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:04,480
customers. We did this last week on a on
a driveway out of the rural area because

666
00:52:01,839 --> 00:52:08,559
there's difference in the driveways
in the in the city and I'm not that

667
00:52:06,400 --> 00:52:12,000
versed on on all that. She's she's done
an excellent job since she's been in

668
00:52:10,000 --> 00:52:17,000
that role.
Any questions?

669
00:52:12,880 --> 00:52:17,000
» Thanks. She did. Okay.

670
00:52:17,680 --> 00:52:22,720
» To read the resolution on title only.
>> Second.

671
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:27,119
» All right. So, I have a motion in a
second to read title only res. All those

672
00:52:25,359 --> 00:52:31,920
in favor?
>> I

673
00:52:29,839 --> 00:52:36,680
» resolution confirming the appointment of
Abby Bryan as zoning official.

674
00:52:47,040 --> 00:52:51,920
Make a motion to approve the resolution.
>> Second.

675
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:57,520
» Motion to approve the resolution.
Second. Public comment before we vote.

676
00:52:54,880 --> 00:53:04,680
» All right. All those in favor. I
>> All right. So,

677
00:53:01,119 --> 00:53:04,680
it congratulations.

678
00:53:07,680 --> 00:53:14,400
I do really have to commend Abby because
she has

679
00:53:11,359 --> 00:53:21,440
really taken on a lot and it's been a
huge benefit to us at city hall and to

680
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:27,359
the citizens all that she's taking on.
All right, next on the agenda is the

681
00:53:23,839 --> 00:53:31,520
removal of same unsightly items called
Martin it.

682
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:35,359
» Yeah, thank you. Uh there should be some
photos in your packet.

683
00:53:34,800 --> 00:53:40,880
Um,
>> speak up, please.

684
00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:48,160
» The two items that I would like to see
resolved, um, that I've gotten some

685
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:51,680
feedback from citizens on the I think it
maybe used to be a pond. It didn't hold

686
00:53:49,680 --> 00:53:57,920
water though, and we're currently using
it to, I guess, dump material from other

687
00:53:56,240 --> 00:54:02,160
areas.
>> We currently use it because we have no

688
00:54:00,079 --> 00:54:05,760
other place to put refuge for the city.
>> Yeah. Yeah, for when we clean up trees

689
00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:09,520
and uh brush.
>> Yeah. And this is a pretty visible

690
00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:13,839
location. It's right off of fire tower
and it's one of the more trafficked

691
00:54:11,280 --> 00:54:18,000
areas of the park. This is where our
>> It's not part of the park property. That

692
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:22,559
is actually city property. I just want
to clarify the city has 10 acres and

693
00:54:20,240 --> 00:54:26,960
it's not part of the park. So that is
within the 10 acres that is not part of

694
00:54:24,640 --> 00:54:31,280
the park. So it's not park property. So
to call it park property is just a

695
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:35,037
misnomer. park property is just the two
acres is behind beauty building. Just

696
00:54:33,359 --> 00:54:39,920
for point of clarification,
[clears throat] so

697
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:43,280
» thank you for that. Um, so this is I
guess not the park, but children would

698
00:54:41,839 --> 00:54:48,079
play there because it's right next to
the park. Um, and it's it's in a pretty

699
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:52,720
visible location. It's where we have the
bike race and the farmers market. Um,

700
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:58,720
you can see it from fire tower. It's
pretty unsightly. I'd recommend that we

701
00:54:54,960 --> 00:55:03,359
find a more discreet location that we
could use to create a brush pile if we

702
00:55:01,760 --> 00:55:09,520
need to. That's what would be most
typical. U and then the other item uh

703
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:14,160
lesser concern, but still wanted to
bring it up just because I can I can see

704
00:55:12,160 --> 00:55:19,920
my own children falling into this. It's
a concrete cylinder that was left by the

705
00:55:17,359 --> 00:55:26,880
water company when they fixed that water
line on fire tower. Um,

706
00:55:25,280 --> 00:55:31,520
you can see the location of it. It's
pretty pretty dead center in and where

707
00:55:29,119 --> 00:55:35,440
the park is and it's kind of where that
step is at. And I if you have kids, you

708
00:55:34,319 --> 00:55:40,319
know what happens when they're at a
park. They're both in each other. And

709
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:46,000
that uh concrete barrier is just the
right height to to really do some damage

710
00:55:42,319 --> 00:55:53,359
if they're pushed into that. So, this uh
resolution is to remedy these two

711
00:55:49,359 --> 00:55:57,440
issues. Um, I'll open it up for
discussion.

712
00:55:55,040 --> 00:56:02,400
» I'd like to discuss that the the
concrete cylinder that's there was left

713
00:55:59,520 --> 00:56:07,280
there on purpose. I was asked by
families and kids that were there for

714
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:11,599
the kids to play on. My goal was to
always ground the edges down because I

715
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:16,000
felt like it was and I will take
responsibility that

716
00:56:14,240 --> 00:56:21,920
um it has been ground down. It has been
painted now. um that's been there for

717
00:56:19,359 --> 00:56:27,359
kids to play on because kids do play on
it. They enjoy walking on it. Um my kids

718
00:56:24,559 --> 00:56:32,160
play on it or neighbors kids play on it.
So that's why that's there. If you like

719
00:56:29,280 --> 00:56:36,160
it moves somewhere not so close to that
uh playground, we can do that. But I

720
00:56:34,400 --> 00:56:42,000
think it's at least worthwhile to keep
it for kids to be able to play on. Um,

721
00:56:38,720 --> 00:56:48,240
as far as the pond, we don't have any
other city property by which for us to

722
00:56:44,960 --> 00:56:52,319
be able to be able to put recreation. We
cannot put it in the park because the

723
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:58,319
money that we accepted for the park, it
is park property and we cannot use that

724
00:56:54,400 --> 00:57:04,400
for a place to take and
the site. The city doesn't own any other

725
00:57:01,119 --> 00:57:07,720
property by which to be able to dispose
of those

726
00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:14,880
green that we've had to remove from
streets and roads.

727
00:57:12,640 --> 00:57:19,599
So, if you could think of another place
that the city has property that we own

728
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:24,160
that we could dispose of those, then I'd
be happy to entertain that. But at this

729
00:57:21,359 --> 00:57:29,359
point, we don't.
>> Yeah. I mean, we've got 150 acres now.

730
00:57:27,040 --> 00:57:33,839
We cannot put that in the park. It's not
something that we can do. So, by

731
00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:38,079
statute, by by law, we can't do that.
>> Well, we can't we can't keep a it's

732
00:57:36,400 --> 00:57:42,079
essentially a city dump in such a
visible place. I think it's embarrassing

733
00:57:39,839 --> 00:57:47,680
to have as the entrance of our bike
races. It it doesn't look good. I've got

734
00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:54,359
complaints. It's unsightly. So, I would
uh make a motion that we read in title

735
00:57:51,359 --> 00:57:54,359
only.

736
00:57:55,920 --> 00:58:00,240
question.
>> Where do we I have to ask the council

737
00:57:58,559 --> 00:58:07,520
where am I supposed to tell our street
department to take limbs and and debris.

738
00:58:03,520 --> 00:58:12,640
» That's what my question was. Okay.
>> With the acorage that we have out here.

739
00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:15,920
» We cannot use the park for dumping
debris.

740
00:58:14,559 --> 00:58:18,240
» I I heard you.
>> Yeah.

741
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:21,920
» Now listen to me.
>> Yeah.

742
00:58:19,359 --> 00:58:26,640
» Okay. We have 100 acres over here.
>> No, we have 10 acres. 10 acres

743
00:58:24,559 --> 00:58:29,640
» behind here. Correct.
>> Okay.

744
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:34,920
Why can't it go back

745
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:45,520
away from here, away from the street?
There's plenty of land going back. So,

746
00:58:43,359 --> 00:58:52,880
you could do the same thing and it
wouldn't be visible to the streets.

747
00:58:50,319 --> 00:58:57,280
I would I would argue to say that that
entire 10 acres is visible from both

748
00:58:55,520 --> 00:59:02,880
Ocean Tuttle and Fire Tower.
>> Um what are our thoughts on getting a

749
00:59:00,559 --> 00:59:06,240
larger wood chipper to be able to wood
chip all of the limbs?

750
00:59:04,559 --> 00:59:08,640
» Would love to be able to put that in the
budget. They're about $30,000.

751
00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:13,760
» Yeah.
>> And that's only for up to about five

752
00:59:11,119 --> 00:59:17,440
inches. I guess,
you know, really just need to figure out

753
00:59:16,160 --> 00:59:20,079
what we can do with this rather than
just putting it in a pile and leaving

754
00:59:18,799 --> 00:59:24,880
it.
>> I can burn and that would be, you know,

755
00:59:22,720 --> 00:59:27,960
and try to maintain it a little bit.
>> I mean,

756
00:59:28,880 --> 00:59:38,559
it's it's in a bad location. It's very
visible. Um,

757
00:59:36,960 --> 00:59:42,880
» it is right next to the park and it's
right where we have farmers market.

758
00:59:40,799 --> 00:59:47,040
What's typical is not a pit that you
would dump in around here. Typically,

759
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:50,640
you would stack a brush pile somewhere
in a discrete location.

760
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:55,200
» Well, I would argue that before I came
on the council, the four years before

761
00:59:52,640 --> 00:59:58,480
me, the council had that pond that they
dumped stuff in continually and it never

762
00:59:57,520 --> 01:00:04,640
was a problem.
>> Well, Max had talked to the water

763
01:00:01,760 --> 01:00:08,160
company about that and from my
understanding, the water company was

764
01:00:06,559 --> 01:00:12,079
supposed to fill that in when they put
that line in. I don't know what

765
01:00:09,839 --> 01:00:16,640
happened. Maybe that was lost somewhere
along the way, but that was discussed.

766
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:20,880
Um,
but to your point, I mean, it's it's

767
01:00:19,119 --> 01:00:24,480
been a long time and it's been unsightly
for a long time, but I don't think that

768
01:00:22,240 --> 01:00:28,119
gives us an excuse just that it needs to
be cleaned up.

769
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:35,200
» I could lease a strip of land that I
have on 13 acres for the city to

770
01:00:33,599 --> 01:00:41,359
» if we moved it to the back of the
property and created some sort of

771
01:00:38,799 --> 01:00:45,280
Yeah, using some drink giants or
something to

772
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:50,640
» to try to block that.
>> Yeah, I mean there there's options, but

773
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:55,280
I think that this gives you two months
to decide what you're going to do. Uh I

774
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:59,200
think there's plenty of options out
there. I wouldn't want to get involved

775
01:00:57,520 --> 01:01:04,160
with where you decide to end up leaving
it, but where it's at, it needs to be in

776
01:01:01,440 --> 01:01:09,200
a discrete location.
>> I agree.

777
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:15,359
It can help you.
It can be moved further back where it

778
01:01:13,280 --> 01:01:19,680
isn't [clears throat] right here where
everybody is.

779
01:01:17,680 --> 01:01:26,319
And
as far as the cylinder, I don't know

780
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:31,200
how many feet exactly that cylinder is
from

781
01:01:28,559 --> 01:01:40,319
the curb to the
>> It's 18 in tall. It's 18 in tall. I know

782
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:42,640
I'm not talking about distance from
the playground boundary.

783
01:01:41,839 --> 01:01:45,440
» Playground.
>> Yeah, we can move it.

784
01:01:44,240 --> 01:01:49,839
» That's what
>> you know.

785
01:01:47,680 --> 01:01:56,000
I don't know what the distance is there.
>> Yeah, it's right there.

786
01:01:51,839 --> 01:02:02,160
I think it needs if at worst it needs to
be moved

787
01:01:58,000 --> 01:02:07,839
so that it's not close to where a lot of
kids play and run around and jump off

788
01:02:06,319 --> 01:02:14,000
from,
you know, that that filled area, etc.,

789
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:19,440
and could fall
and hit their face, their chin, their

790
01:02:16,799 --> 01:02:24,160
their teeth, you name it.
on the it doesn't matter whether it's

791
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:29,359
rounded or squared,
>> that's still gonna do a lot of damage.

792
01:02:27,680 --> 01:02:32,400
» So,
go ahead, Chief.

793
01:02:30,079 --> 01:02:35,680
» I was just going to say, so and would it
not be cheaper instead of wasting the

794
01:02:34,000 --> 01:02:38,799
manpower and the overtime that you're
going to have to do to dig a hole

795
01:02:37,359 --> 01:02:41,760
further out in the field? Why not just
put a fence around it?

796
01:02:39,760 --> 01:02:46,640
» That's, you know, literally do a six
foot privacy fence. That takes away your

797
01:02:43,760 --> 01:02:49,920
unsightly. It takes away your unsafe.
And as far as the cylinder, I have a

798
01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:54,799
three-year-old grandbaby that loves that
thing. My grandid absolutely love it.

799
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:58,000
And I mean, I'm not the one to say that
I'm not going to let my grandbaby play

800
01:02:56,319 --> 01:03:02,319
on something she likes. She can get if
she gets hurt, she gets hurt. That's

801
01:03:01,040 --> 01:03:06,160
part of the playground, too.
>> I mean, get hurt just as easy or worse

802
01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:10,640
on that.
>> They can fall off the top of the monkey

803
01:03:09,599 --> 01:03:14,400
bars.
>> Yeah. I mean, I'd say grind it down like

804
01:03:12,319 --> 01:03:17,920
he said, clear the edges off, paint it.
>> It's already down.

805
01:03:15,200 --> 01:03:21,039
» Yeah. still paint it and paint it a
bunch of different colors and let the

806
01:03:18,960 --> 01:03:23,359
kids play on them. It's a free
playground equipment right there.

807
01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:28,400
» That's right.
>> The only reason I kept it. I mean, my

808
01:03:25,680 --> 01:03:32,079
kids loved it and you know, Andrew Eden,
>> my grandkids love it. My

809
01:03:29,920 --> 01:03:35,119
» grand It's not any different than the
concrete playgrounds in front of the

810
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:38,079
Jones Center in Springdale.
>> That's right.

811
01:03:36,079 --> 01:03:42,480
» And we did I had Eddie and Ivan come
grind it down. It's smooth. They've

812
01:03:39,839 --> 01:03:44,960
painted it and we plan on painting a sun
on it, some stars and stuff for the

813
01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:49,200
kids, you know, to
>> and at some point the parents have to

814
01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:55,680
take responsibility for watching their
kids and decide.

815
01:03:51,520 --> 01:03:58,079
» Yeah, I mean way a little bit because
these days

816
01:03:56,079 --> 01:04:00,720
» I just know the kids like balance theme
and yeah,

817
01:03:59,359 --> 01:04:02,880
» we can move it further away from where
the playground is.

818
01:04:01,599 --> 01:04:05,920
» I don't know about you guys, but I came
from a generation with jungle gyms that

819
01:04:04,559 --> 01:04:10,960
were way taller than that,
>> right? And I don't mind

820
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:16,079
» chief drivers. I don't mind putting a
privacy fence around there. Again, we'll

821
01:04:13,839 --> 01:04:20,559
have to figure out how to adjust the
budget because it's not allocated. I

822
01:04:18,079 --> 01:04:23,680
mean, it's fine with me. Any of these
options that you guys are talking about,

823
01:04:22,079 --> 01:04:27,920
we cannot do it until you amend the
budget because we don't have the budget

824
01:04:25,039 --> 01:04:31,359
to do it. So, moving that at this
moment, we don't have the budget and

825
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:36,319
it's not been set in the budget to even
be able to do it. So spending the money

826
01:04:34,720 --> 01:04:40,079
to put up a big fence around that,
that's going to be a lot of that's going

827
01:04:37,839 --> 01:04:45,520
to be a big budgetary
um outlay of of money, number one. And

828
01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:50,720
and I would contend that it will draw
more attention to that area than it does

829
01:04:48,640 --> 01:04:53,760
now. People can see what's down there.
They don't want to go down there in the

830
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:57,839
first place because it's kind of, you
know, people don't just don't want to go

831
01:04:55,760 --> 01:05:01,280
down there because it's either muddy or
if it's, you know, got brush down there,

832
01:05:00,319 --> 01:05:06,559
they don't want to go down there and
play anyway. So, um, they can see what's

833
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:11,839
there. We're slowly filling it up. We We
probably should burn it more often than

834
01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:15,280
we do. Obviously, not now. I don't think
there's a burn ban, but we don't want

835
01:05:13,039 --> 01:05:17,440
to,
but

836
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:22,880
» but if we, you know, if we spend a
little more time pushing it in and, you

837
01:05:20,240 --> 01:05:27,359
know, collapsing that the hole size a
little bit more and smoothing it out, I

838
01:05:25,039 --> 01:05:31,839
don't think it'll be as much of an eyes.
U, but we can take care of the

839
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:35,200
vegetation around the edges as well. So,
I mean, I'm committed to us making it

840
01:05:33,359 --> 01:05:38,559
look a little better than it does. And I
don't even mind using which we've done.

841
01:05:36,880 --> 01:05:41,680
We've used my dozer for all of the work
on that farm.

842
01:05:40,240 --> 01:05:45,760
» The one that went in there after I took
office and pushed all the trees out

843
01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:49,520
because it was such an eyesore to me and
all of this vegetation that had been

844
01:05:47,760 --> 01:05:54,319
left over here for years that we cleaned
up over the last 3 years. It It looks a

845
01:05:52,160 --> 01:05:57,839
lot better now than it ever has. I
agree. It's still an eyesore. Part of

846
01:05:56,079 --> 01:06:03,119
the problem I saw was they're having
people dump debris there that wasn't

847
01:05:59,920 --> 01:06:08,160
cities, you know, and it was refuge from
their, you know, lawns and their yards.

848
01:06:06,079 --> 01:06:12,079
And that's not what the intent was. The
goal is to fill it in. Goal is to fill

849
01:06:10,079 --> 01:06:15,920
it in. But we do as a city need to think
about what are we going to do. And one

850
01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:19,359
of the things Paula, like you said, I've
looked at the Vermeier, you know,

851
01:06:17,599 --> 01:06:21,280
multure grinders because we are going to
have to have we're going to have to have

852
01:06:20,799 --> 01:06:23,119
an option.
>> We have to have something in the future.

853
01:06:22,559 --> 01:06:26,160
And
>> it's not just the it's not just the

854
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:30,480
vulture either. You have to have a
trailer to put that stuff in and dump it

855
01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:34,880
and all that stuff. So it's a it's it's
pretty big.

856
01:06:31,520 --> 01:06:39,920
» I mean I understand you know if you can
you know I know you have to have

857
01:06:37,440 --> 01:06:45,280
you can bring the brush to it. Um you
know there's options there but anyhow I

858
01:06:42,079 --> 01:06:49,760
just was again trying to think of
long-term solutions rather than just

859
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:53,200
» Can I make one more point on the on the
fence out there? If we put a fence out

860
01:06:51,920 --> 01:06:57,599
there, it's probably going to limit us
to only one or two access points right

861
01:06:55,520 --> 01:07:02,559
now. And it's nice to be able to back up
on wherever we fill it to be able to

862
01:07:00,400 --> 01:07:07,839
come in on whatever side we need to and
dump that debris in there from wherever

863
01:07:05,680 --> 01:07:11,680
it's most accessible. And if we put a
fence up there, that's going to really

864
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:13,760
sever limit that ability to be able to
do that.

865
01:07:12,240 --> 01:07:19,440
» I don't think anybody's really
considered a fence on the on the sky.

866
01:07:16,400 --> 01:07:23,119
Wouldn't consider a fence. Um, but when
you're from this area, you know what

867
01:07:21,359 --> 01:07:28,559
needs to be done with brush. You pile it
up in a discrete location. You don't dig

868
01:07:25,200 --> 01:07:32,400
a pit in a public view and you know,
leave it there for years.

869
01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:35,680
» This wasn't a pit that was a pond that
was there. It's been there for decades.

870
01:07:35,280 --> 01:07:40,319
» Yeah.
>> That has been not holding water. that

871
01:07:38,079 --> 01:07:45,039
the goal has always been to fill it in,
but the goal has been to utilize it for

872
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:50,640
the city so that we can actually do our
own tree removal instead of hiring to

873
01:07:47,760 --> 01:07:55,200
the tune of 20 to $40,000. We spent
$40,000 two years in a row on tree

874
01:07:53,119 --> 01:07:59,119
removal. Then we got our bucket truck.
We've been doing our own tree removal

875
01:07:56,559 --> 01:08:03,200
and limbs and you know, we have to have
a place to take that and we don't have

876
01:08:01,359 --> 01:08:09,280
another place to take it at this point.
I I think that we could find another

877
01:08:05,039 --> 01:08:13,119
place and I would encourage us to do the
right thing here. Our our citizens don't

878
01:08:11,599 --> 01:08:17,600
want to look at this.
>> I suggest that we fill it in.

879
01:08:15,359 --> 01:08:22,000
» Now, where do you suggest all of the
debris that we have?

880
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:25,759
» Find a more discreet place. That's the
most visible place. Cheryl,

881
01:08:24,159 --> 01:08:29,120
» I think before we can pass this
resolution, we're going to have to find

882
01:08:27,359 --> 01:08:32,560
out what the cost is going to be to fill
it in. And it's not going to be done by

883
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:36,480
our city staff. you're going to have to
hire somebody to do it. So, we need to

884
01:08:34,719 --> 01:08:43,199
find out what the cost is. We need to
bring that back to council and we need

885
01:08:39,600 --> 01:08:48,319
to have a set location for where debris
and refuge that the city street

886
01:08:45,120 --> 01:08:52,960
department has to take, where it's going
to go. I I don't think we can pass this

887
01:08:51,359 --> 01:08:57,199
resolution in the way that it's written
at this time.

888
01:08:53,759 --> 01:09:02,159
» I think that this
>> I think that this gives you two months

889
01:08:59,120 --> 01:09:06,239
to find a solution. I think that's ample
amount of time. I'm going to do what my

890
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:09,920
citizens have asked me to do and I'm
going to keep this motion active. I've

891
01:09:08,319 --> 01:09:13,359
made a motion. I hope that somebody
seconds it can vote.

892
01:09:10,960 --> 01:09:16,880
» I'll second it.
>> Make a comment here. Why don't we take

893
01:09:15,279 --> 01:09:22,080
the two?
>> We've got a motion and a second.

894
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:25,279
» A motion and a second on our table.
>> I'm going to call the question. I'm

895
01:09:23,759 --> 01:09:29,679
going to call the question.
>> Before we vote, it's public comment. Uh

896
01:09:27,440 --> 01:09:35,359
point of order, Brian, if we have a if
we call this question on a resolution

897
01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:38,400
uh by by ordinance, I think that only
our ordinances require

898
01:09:37,839 --> 01:09:39,839
» and this is
>> it's fine if we want to do public

899
01:09:39,520 --> 01:09:43,040
comment.
>> The motion is just to read this entitle

900
01:09:41,600 --> 01:09:45,199
only. There will be discussion about
that after we do that.

901
01:09:44,319 --> 01:09:50,319
» Yeah,
>> it's not to approve the the resolution.

902
01:09:48,640 --> 01:09:53,520
» I understand. But before we vote, we
always ask for public comment. We have

903
01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:57,679
somebody that has public
>> I was just waiting my turn for everybody

904
01:09:55,040 --> 01:09:59,760
else to speak and then I was going but
he kind of jumped to gun there.

905
01:09:59,253 --> 01:10:05,040
[laughter]
>> But the public comment is after you read

906
01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:09,920
it, right? What you said?
>> There will be discussion after we read

907
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:15,120
this.
>> It's fine.

908
01:10:12,159 --> 01:10:21,440
So, just a few minutes ago, you were
talking about not having enough money in

909
01:10:17,520 --> 01:10:28,719
the budget for a street pavement, and
now you're wanting to spend more money

910
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:33,840
to cover up a pond that one council
member thinks is unsightly.

911
01:10:31,600 --> 01:10:38,000
That just does not make sense and it
doesn't seem physically responsible.

912
01:10:36,239 --> 01:10:41,280
many members many members of the public.
I think that if you have a chance to go

913
01:10:39,440 --> 01:10:43,840
out there and look at it, most people
are going to agree that that's unsightly

914
01:10:42,960 --> 01:10:48,159
» did just now.
>> And you don't think that that's an

915
01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:55,080
unsightly thing, Cheryl?
>> All right. Um, all those in favor?

916
01:10:52,080 --> 01:10:55,080
» I

917
01:10:56,719 --> 01:11:04,080
read it. Right.
>> All right. Can we get a roll call? Two

918
01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:09,760
eyes to do. Is this just to read it?
It's just to read it. Ready?

919
01:11:08,000 --> 01:11:12,320
» Yeah.
>> Paul Anderson,

920
01:11:10,719 --> 01:11:14,560
» no. Certain.
>> Yes.

921
01:11:13,280 --> 01:11:16,800
» I'm sorry. Curtis Bond,
>> yes.

922
01:11:15,679 --> 01:11:19,920
» Don Valancort,
>> yes.

923
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:25,120
» Mayfield,
>> the resolution authorizing the

924
01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:29,199
remediation of mun municipal park
grounds adjacent to the community

925
01:11:26,800 --> 01:11:33,920
building, including the filling and
seating of an existing pit and the

926
01:11:31,440 --> 01:11:36,640
removal of a concrete cylinder from the
premises.

927
01:11:42,400 --> 01:11:46,360
I'll make a motion to adopt.

928
01:11:46,800 --> 01:11:53,360
» I'll second.
>> So, we have a motion and a second public

929
01:11:51,440 --> 01:11:57,600
comment at this time.
>> What I was going to suggest, since we

930
01:11:55,360 --> 01:12:01,760
are looking at a two-month window, why
don't we take that two-month window and

931
01:11:59,520 --> 01:12:06,080
see what we can do to improve it, get
more information, and bring it back for

932
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:06,080
discussion.

933
01:12:06,560 --> 01:12:14,560
I mean, yeah, if you want to come back
next month and

934
01:12:11,199 --> 01:12:18,640
take the two months time frame to I will
uh take a lead on

935
01:12:17,040 --> 01:12:20,960
» because I think we need cost estimates
of what it's going to cost to actually

936
01:12:19,920 --> 01:12:24,640
fill it in because we're going to have
to have a contractor do that. I would

937
01:12:23,120 --> 01:12:28,159
take the lead on on bidding the
information, working with the our

938
01:12:26,239 --> 01:12:32,640
infrastructure department and seeing
what improvements we can make to uh

939
01:12:30,400 --> 01:12:38,080
maybe remy some of the situation without
going down an expensive line of doing

940
01:12:35,840 --> 01:12:41,679
this and see if we can bring that back
in a couple of months according to also

941
01:12:40,480 --> 01:12:44,640
get
>> that's what I meant and get cost

942
01:12:42,960 --> 01:12:49,679
estimates and then bring it back where
we have more information.

943
01:12:47,360 --> 01:12:55,920
So realistically, what property doesn't
city have this best to be put on?

944
01:12:52,880 --> 01:12:59,280
» There's 10 acres. That's the only dig on
the city hall and put there.

945
01:12:57,600 --> 01:13:04,400
» I don't know what would prevent you from
putting it on any of the 150 acres.

946
01:13:01,840 --> 01:13:09,280
» You can't by statute because we received
federal park and you cannot use that.

947
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:12,480
» I would like to see that.
>> It's in our It's in our actual

948
01:13:11,280 --> 01:13:14,320
» because I don't know what would prevent
us for doing that cuz I mean if

949
01:13:13,920 --> 01:13:18,560
something
>> Have you read our city park nature plan?

950
01:13:16,560 --> 01:13:22,960
cuz it's in there. It's part of the
master plan. We cannot use it for that.

951
01:13:21,120 --> 01:13:26,640
We can take the we can take the brush
and debris that's in the park and

952
01:13:24,960 --> 01:13:31,440
there's specific ways that we're
supposed to actually structure those for

953
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:38,400
habitat. That's what's in our master
plan. But we cannot take city street

954
01:13:34,880 --> 01:13:42,880
department refuge from trees that we are
trimming leaves that we're trimming off

955
01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:47,520
of the streets and take it to the park
and dump it. We can't do that. Only

956
01:13:45,920 --> 01:13:50,960
what's generated in the park.
>> Only what's generated in the park.

957
01:13:49,199 --> 01:13:52,880
» Yeah. I mean, and the new property is
land trust. So, you can't really do

958
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:57,199
anything,
>> right? The new 50 acres is land trust.

959
01:13:54,800 --> 01:14:00,400
» 50 acres up there is
completely unusable. That

960
01:13:58,800 --> 01:14:05,360
» Well, I know we got by a long time
without even owning that property.

961
01:14:03,440 --> 01:14:09,280
So, I think that
>> got by I'm sorry. Got by with what?

962
01:14:07,360 --> 01:14:12,960
» I mean, it's recent that we own that
property and we've turned it into a city

963
01:14:11,040 --> 01:14:16,960
dump. That's not the intention I had
when we purchased this property. You

964
01:14:14,640 --> 01:14:20,320
talking about the 10 acres? The 10 acres
was purchased uh five years ago,

965
01:14:19,679 --> 01:14:23,360
» right?
>> So, yeah,

966
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:28,400
» that's recent.
>> It is, but I mean it's still for 5 years

967
01:14:25,760 --> 01:14:30,800
for for three years it sat there, you
know,

968
01:14:28,719 --> 01:14:35,440
» nobody's complained.
>> People have complained. And you know,

969
01:14:33,440 --> 01:14:39,120
there's there's if you ever watched
Parks and Wreck, everybody needs to go

970
01:14:37,199 --> 01:14:43,360
watch Parks and Wreck. This is a this is
a comedy that we can't fill in a pit as

971
01:14:41,280 --> 01:14:45,600
a city.
It's a pit, a dump. We need to fill it

972
01:14:45,360 --> 01:14:48,880
in.
>> I've never heard anybody complain about

973
01:14:47,600 --> 01:14:54,000
it.
>> We have other public comments.

974
01:14:50,400 --> 01:15:00,400
» So, for that cylinder, uh, what if you
just repurposed it, uh, like all the

975
01:14:57,600 --> 01:15:05,360
bags of concrete, put a flag, pull, run
up an American flag, and then the ocean

976
01:15:02,400 --> 01:15:11,600
flag. Kids can still play on it. And
like the concern is safety. They can't

977
01:15:08,480 --> 01:15:17,760
fall in. And then uh for a little
chipper I talk to my Chinese suppliers.

978
01:15:14,480 --> 01:15:21,920
Guess one thousand bucks.
>> No, those don't work. They just don't

979
01:15:19,760 --> 01:15:26,480
work for a city.
>> All of my equipment and everything in

980
01:15:24,560 --> 01:15:31,520
this room is made in China.
>> I'm not going to deny that.

981
01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:33,920
We need an industrial size.
>> I understand that.

982
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:38,640
» Yeah.
>> You go straight to the supplier. Speak

983
01:15:36,159 --> 01:15:43,440
Chinese.
just got a great resident expert now on

984
01:15:40,640 --> 01:15:47,600
the on the council.
>> You're the expert. Yeah.

985
01:15:45,199 --> 01:15:49,679
» Yeah. On this,
>> Pardon me.

986
01:15:48,320 --> 01:15:52,960
» You're the expert about
>> Yes, absolutely. Well, I have enough

987
01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:59,880
byproduct that could probably just fill
in the blonde for free. So, definitely

988
01:15:55,679 --> 01:15:59,880
something we can talk about. So,

989
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:07,520
» well, I I know that our citizens would
see this cleaned up. What is your

990
01:16:05,679 --> 01:16:11,040
suggestion to get on Jordan?
>> Where we take city refuge?

991
01:16:09,199 --> 01:16:16,320
» I think probably the 10 acres is big
enough that he said arbor is I think

992
01:16:14,159 --> 01:16:21,120
just maybe couple trees or something to
diffuse it or I mean a fence wouldn't be

993
01:16:19,440 --> 01:16:25,360
really attractive just on the part by
the park but if a fence would work just

994
01:16:23,199 --> 01:16:30,080
there that was just a freestanding fence
that skewed that 10 acres. I haven't

995
01:16:27,840 --> 01:16:33,840
been out there and looked at it, but
like his idea, if it's out in the field,

996
01:16:31,760 --> 01:16:38,000
you kind of got to get to it several
different ways when you go to unload

997
01:16:36,159 --> 01:16:40,000
kind of boxing it in. But
>> would you be willing to work with Jerry

998
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:43,840
and kind of
>> absolutely brainstorm some of that for

999
01:16:42,640 --> 01:16:47,360
it back to the council?
>> Absolutely.

1000
01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:50,360
» I would be happy to come back to
himself.

1001
01:16:52,719 --> 01:16:59,679
» Okay. So,
>> so there is a motion and a second on the

1002
01:16:57,440 --> 01:17:04,600
table and we've had public comments and
now it's time for a vote. Let's do a

1003
01:17:01,199 --> 01:17:04,600
roll call vote.

1004
01:17:05,663 --> 01:17:08,320
[clears throat]
>> Paul Anderson,

1005
01:17:06,560 --> 01:17:10,480
» no. Martin,
>> yes.

1006
01:17:09,520 --> 01:17:12,159
» No.
>> John Valancort.

1007
01:17:11,760 --> 01:17:15,480
» Yes.
>> Sean Mayfield

1008
01:17:16,480 --> 01:17:19,960
» that did not pass.

1009
01:17:20,159 --> 01:17:27,520
So I'll be happy to hear from you guys.
>> Well, we'll get together with that.

1010
01:17:25,679 --> 01:17:33,120
» It is an isore. It's been an isore for
years. We should find a better plan. Um

1011
01:17:29,600 --> 01:17:39,199
that's kind of how we feel whether
>> you know I feel like the resolution as

1012
01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:44,480
it was read is not in our best interest
um as a city but we do need to do

1013
01:17:42,159 --> 01:17:47,679
something about the isore that I don't
disagree that we need to do better job

1014
01:17:46,080 --> 01:17:51,040
and it is an eyesore. I'm not going to
disagree with that. I think we need to

1015
01:17:49,280 --> 01:17:53,600
come up with alternatives and I think
that we need to figure those out before

1016
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:57,760
we pass a resolution.
>> You know, Ken brought up point because

1017
01:17:55,600 --> 01:18:02,400
there is field that you can bring in
that may not be a top soil type field,

1018
01:18:00,400 --> 01:18:05,280
right? That's that's how a lot of people
>> That's right.

1019
01:18:03,120 --> 01:18:08,480
» take a a ravine or such
>> and are able to turn that ravine into

1020
01:18:07,040 --> 01:18:13,040
something that's workable. That's right.
>> And that's essentially what we're doing

1021
01:18:10,320 --> 01:18:15,520
right now. Uh and I will point out that
it looks a lot better than it did 5

1022
01:18:14,719 --> 01:18:17,920
years ago.
>> Yeah, it does.

1023
01:18:16,159 --> 01:18:21,199
» Absolutely.
11.

1024
01:18:18,480 --> 01:18:25,920
» I I feel pressed by the 60 days.
>> Yeah.

1025
01:18:24,080 --> 01:18:29,760
» So, you'll bring that back. I'd like to
request that we get a solution back next

1026
01:18:28,239 --> 01:18:32,239
month.
>> Bring it back next month.

1027
01:18:30,719 --> 01:18:35,480
» Okay.
>> Sounds good.

1028
01:18:35,679 --> 01:18:44,320
» Okay. So, we move on to the next item of
the agenda, which is city project

1029
01:18:40,000 --> 01:18:49,920
update. So, ARDOT trail uh progress
phase two. So we are still in talks with

1030
01:18:47,120 --> 01:18:54,394
ARDOT. We have signed everything for
them to move forward with the

1031
01:18:51,280 --> 01:18:57,360
engineering. Um we had to allocate that
[clears throat] we would allow the

1032
01:18:55,360 --> 01:19:02,880
engineering which I think it was like
$60,000 of engineering fees and then any

1033
01:19:01,120 --> 01:19:07,760
other next steps beyond that just
waiting for AR to get back to us. Now

1034
01:19:04,640 --> 01:19:12,719
» they contacted and told about we got
that email this week. They had reached

1035
01:19:09,679 --> 01:19:16,880
out to them and they confirmed that Luke
Jo will be the

1036
01:19:15,520 --> 01:19:22,159
on the project and that's where we're
at.

1037
01:19:19,040 --> 01:19:25,520
» And now let's wait and see what design
puts forward and then for us to hear

1038
01:19:23,760 --> 01:19:29,440
back from our
>> I don't know if you guys have got the

1039
01:19:26,640 --> 01:19:35,199
gist of it but our is a little slow so
this may take another six months. Um and

1040
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:39,920
then as far as the pavilion update I
spoke with Chad today and I reached out

1041
01:19:38,080 --> 01:19:43,760
to bookout construction. We're going to
coordinate a meeting on Monday or

1042
01:19:41,360 --> 01:19:50,560
Tuesday of next week. Um it is coming
along. We're about I don't know 10 12 14

1043
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:56,159
feet out of the ground now with the the
uh fireplace. Uh the goal is and I

1044
01:19:54,239 --> 01:20:01,040
talked to Chad that the goal is to get
the fireplace almost uh complete by

1045
01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:04,960
midepptember.
Um but we're going to coordinate with

1046
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:10,400
book out on when to start the actual
front pillars as well on the pavilion.

1047
01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:14,719
So that's also in the works right now.
Um, something else that was another uh

1048
01:20:13,199 --> 01:20:20,880
update that I wanted to bring to
everybody's attention. Uh,

1049
01:20:18,159 --> 01:20:26,800
USPS. So, we finally did hear back from
them on our request. And just so

1050
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:32,159
everybody's aware, this has been going
on since 2019.

1051
01:20:29,040 --> 01:20:37,520
Um, and we have actively continued. This
is the all the communication that we've

1052
01:20:34,400 --> 01:20:41,440
had with you USPS since my
administration. And this is back and

1053
01:20:39,679 --> 01:20:46,080
forth with emails, Congressman
Warmarmac's office, Chad Purer's office,

1054
01:20:44,400 --> 01:20:51,440
but what they essentially came back and
said was, "We're denying your request

1055
01:20:48,480 --> 01:20:56,640
for a zip code for your entire city."
But what they did say is that we can now

1056
01:20:53,280 --> 01:20:59,640
start using go since they're going to
say

1057
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:08,000
» so we can start using goan as the name
designation and the zip that you

1058
01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:14,320
currently have but the last four would
remain the same. So that is what they

1059
01:21:10,880 --> 01:21:19,760
authorized now. Now, we still have the
ability to um

1060
01:21:18,239 --> 01:21:25,679
appeal this
>> the and and their concern and and again,

1061
01:21:23,280 --> 01:21:30,159
this may actually be something in your
wheelhouse if it's something that you

1062
01:21:27,440 --> 01:21:34,159
could do is that the the Goan Post
Office building consists of

1063
01:21:31,600 --> 01:21:38,480
approximately 324 square ft, which is
insufficient to support the delivery

1064
01:21:36,159 --> 01:21:44,960
volume associated with the proposed
service area. So the facility includes a

1065
01:21:41,679 --> 01:21:50,880
2x2 vestibule dock configuration allow
for rolling te Amazon drop shipments.

1066
01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:55,120
The building also has 9 foot canopy uh
without a lift and limited employee

1067
01:21:53,199 --> 01:21:59,199
parking space which further limits
operational viability. So what they're

1068
01:21:57,600 --> 01:22:04,639
essentially saying is if we really want
our own zip code we have to improve the

1069
01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:08,639
post office. we would have to enlarge
it, make it more accessible and

1070
01:22:06,639 --> 01:22:14,080
compatible with all those things that we
required. So

1071
01:22:11,520 --> 01:22:19,360
essentially what I'm saying is do you
want to appeal this?

1072
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:25,520
» And if we do appeal it, we have to have
some buy in from the owner of the

1073
01:22:22,719 --> 01:22:28,400
building for potential
renovation.

1074
01:22:26,800 --> 01:22:32,880
» I believe Kevin still owns that
particular building, doesn't he?

1075
01:22:31,440 --> 01:22:38,159
» I'm here. I didn't hear what you say. I
think uh Kevin still owns the actual

1076
01:22:35,679 --> 01:22:41,840
post office, does he not?
>> I'm I'm purchasing both of the

1077
01:22:39,600 --> 01:22:48,639
properties from him. It's an owner
finance deal. Okay. Known Kevin for many

1078
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:53,679
years. And we talked about this uh prior
to me person that that there was going

1079
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:58,560
to come a time that uh the post office
would either have to be updated or a new

1080
01:22:55,440 --> 01:23:03,120
one built here to
I'm I'm not sure without doing a study

1081
01:23:00,480 --> 01:23:09,679
if that building could even ever even be
built to satisfy what that

1082
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:12,480
tell anyway.
I

1083
01:23:10,400 --> 01:23:16,560
haven't in there, but I've spent some
time there uh just kind of evaluating

1084
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:20,560
the property and the traffic, kind of
the demographic, what's go what goes on

1085
01:23:18,480 --> 01:23:24,480
there. And it's really just not it's not
conducive for any kind of anything the

1086
01:23:22,800 --> 01:23:29,920
way the parking all is. It's almost kind
of a stop and go place anyway. Even when

1087
01:23:27,679 --> 01:23:33,679
the bank was there, it was designed for
folks to come in, op right back out, or

1088
01:23:31,920 --> 01:23:37,840
use the drive-thru. So,
>> I don't know that there's actually

1089
01:23:35,120 --> 01:23:42,960
enough room on those lots on what those
lot sizes are for being able to upgrade

1090
01:23:40,560 --> 01:23:49,320
to what will be required there.
>> Probably be a total reconfiguration for

1091
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:49,320
sure that would kind of go into the lawn

1092
01:23:49,440 --> 01:23:57,063
at the post office.
I will say that

1093
01:23:55,043 --> 01:23:57,063
[clears throat]

1094
01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:08,320
before you could even
think about enlarging the post office

1095
01:24:04,320 --> 01:24:11,840
as a landlord, you have to get
buy in from postal service.

1096
01:24:11,120 --> 01:24:17,040
» Correct.
>> Okay. Etc.

1097
01:24:13,760 --> 01:24:24,719
and and agree upon
a a rental about for I mean I'm my dad

1098
01:24:21,760 --> 01:24:31,760
built the post office and rented it to
the US post office and you have to go by

1099
01:24:29,600 --> 01:24:39,440
their specifications
and what they're looking for in order to

1100
01:24:36,560 --> 01:24:47,760
fulfill their need.
Okay, that's and it's a 100y year lease.

1101
01:24:43,920 --> 01:24:51,920
» So I think the the point of of
priority was to ensure that we were

1102
01:24:49,760 --> 01:24:54,639
getting our sales tax revenue right was
one one of the reasons

1103
01:24:52,880 --> 01:24:59,280
» part of it. Yeah.
>> Safety as well.

1104
01:24:55,520 --> 01:25:06,880
» So within that as an example the 72703
is was Fatville. It changed now mind you

1105
01:25:03,520 --> 01:25:12,239
say it's 7273 336 whatever that four
digit is. What would be the new I guess

1106
01:25:11,679 --> 01:25:17,440
uh
>> so the big difference

1107
01:25:13,920 --> 01:25:20,560
» of that money right yeah go may not be
the

1108
01:25:18,159 --> 01:25:24,719
» no the big difference is that if you go
to like let's say you go to a vendor um

1109
01:25:23,280 --> 01:25:28,800
and this happened to me early in my
administration I went up to one of the

1110
01:25:26,800 --> 01:25:31,520
auto places in Springdale and we were
buying a bunch of hydraulic fluid for

1111
01:25:30,320 --> 01:25:35,199
the tractor right
>> and I said well you know I wanted I

1112
01:25:33,840 --> 01:25:39,360
wanted us to get the money so I was like
you can ship it if they ship it to our

1113
01:25:36,719 --> 01:25:43,920
address they have to pay the zip code
has,

1114
01:25:40,239 --> 01:25:48,159
» but I said, "Uh, ship it to 124 North
Church Street." And he's like, "Oh,

1115
01:25:46,880 --> 01:25:53,679
okay." And he pulls it up and he's like,
"Oh, Favville." And actually 124 North

1116
01:25:51,199 --> 01:26:00,960
Church Street is supposed to be Ger
pulled up as Fyville at their location.

1117
01:25:56,880 --> 01:26:08,639
If it pulled up from USPS as go, then
even though the zip code may be 72703-

1118
01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:11,679
whatever it is, 872, whatever, um, then
at that point, it's still going to come

1119
01:26:10,320 --> 01:26:16,159
up under Goian, we're going to get our
sales tax revenue. Right now, there's no

1120
01:26:14,480 --> 01:26:20,320
pick list for someone. If they're going
into those systems right now, it's not

1121
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:24,080
even there. So, you put in goan, there's
only two addresses in them. One will

1122
01:26:22,239 --> 01:26:27,840
only pull up. Post office is the only
one that pulls up. I know this because

1123
01:26:25,920 --> 01:26:31,199
when I'm at city hall, I'm trying to
order something and I'm trying to have

1124
01:26:28,960 --> 01:26:35,520
it shipped to city hall. A lot of places
you put I put that address in, it won't

1125
01:26:33,760 --> 01:26:40,480
accept it. Like it literally won't
accept it as an address because it

1126
01:26:37,360 --> 01:26:44,800
doesn't even register. So once USPS gets
go as its own main well then at that

1127
01:26:43,040 --> 01:26:51,760
point it is going to have those pick
lists come in hopefully where 7273

1128
01:26:48,320 --> 01:26:57,679
whether it's you know a payil zip code
it still would have a go name to be able

1129
01:26:54,320 --> 01:27:03,679
to identify that it's in the city. I do
think it's a sort of a win, but it's not

1130
01:27:00,400 --> 01:27:07,280
a win getting our own zip code, but
again, I don't think we're going to get

1131
01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:12,000
our own zip code unless we do an
expansion of the post office. And I

1132
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:16,480
don't know how feasible that is. I I
don't know that it is. I mean just

1133
01:27:13,679 --> 01:27:20,800
because of the cost of that and what it
would be Mike

1134
01:27:18,080 --> 01:27:25,120
» um along those lines of improving the
post office or whatever they're

1135
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:30,480
requiring us requiring us to do with
regard to an appeal. Uh I would

1136
01:27:27,440 --> 01:27:36,400
encourage them to look at the St. Paul
uh post office. I would encourage them

1137
01:27:32,719 --> 01:27:43,120
to look at the uh homes
uh post office. I mean, they're just

1138
01:27:38,480 --> 01:27:46,480
little small tiny uh one room things out
there and they've got their own zip

1139
01:27:44,400 --> 01:27:51,920
code. So, and there hasn't been any
improvement on those post offices. I

1140
01:27:48,800 --> 01:27:55,280
guarantee you 50 years. So, yeah.
>> I think the point though is if they

1141
01:27:53,520 --> 01:28:01,760
brought those additional in, could that
current in or something

1142
01:27:59,280 --> 01:28:05,600
go by the population density? So, those
are smaller. So, they're little spaces

1143
01:28:04,480 --> 01:28:10,639
that population density.
>> That's John. our density is higher than

1144
01:28:08,480 --> 01:28:13,360
what we have
by

1145
01:28:11,360 --> 01:28:18,320
» bigger facility. So they're looking at
the population density, not just the

1146
01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:23,520
building. Um but like the mayor said, we
have we have the appeal there. Um we

1147
01:28:22,080 --> 01:28:27,199
have the ability to appeal,
>> right? And and when I reached out to

1148
01:28:25,120 --> 01:28:32,080
Congressman WACK's office, his aid sent
me an email. It's ent attached here and

1149
01:28:29,360 --> 01:28:37,840
you guys got this sent to you today or
it's in the packet. But, you know, his

1150
01:28:34,800 --> 01:28:41,199
response was he needs to know if we're
planning on appealing because if we're

1151
01:28:39,280 --> 01:28:46,000
planning on appealing, he will get
Congressman Wmack involved to write a

1152
01:28:43,040 --> 01:28:51,280
letter of support for us for the USPS.
But if we appeal, I am afraid that they

1153
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:56,000
are going to mandate that we end up with
a larger post office. Now, we can still

1154
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:58,239
appeal and they can deny it. And then I
guess we still get to keep go as the

1155
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:02,719
first
>> Well, that's what we need to find out.

1156
01:28:59,520 --> 01:29:06,239
If we appeal, can we reserve
the the option that they put on the

1157
01:29:04,400 --> 01:29:11,600
table for us? Is that still a viable
option if we appeal or do we forward it

1158
01:29:08,719 --> 01:29:16,080
that if we appeal? So, I would hope
>> I think that we need to get it clear

1159
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:21,600
though instead of just assuming but
there is no there is nobody to contact.

1160
01:29:18,239 --> 01:29:27,520
This is all
>> there is no like email address or number

1161
01:29:25,040 --> 01:29:31,840
that you can call. It is an formal
appeal process. You send it into the

1162
01:29:29,679 --> 01:29:36,560
address and then they go through it.
>> Well, and you've got to have um some

1163
01:29:34,400 --> 01:29:41,679
plan to appeal. You got to have some
action plan presented to appeal. Now,

1164
01:29:39,679 --> 01:29:46,080
granted, the appeal is due September the
third. You know, we have a very short

1165
01:29:43,679 --> 01:29:50,159
window. So, that's why we're asked this
evening. That's why I want to know

1166
01:29:48,080 --> 01:29:54,159
council wish for me to go through this
appeal process and try to get

1167
01:29:51,679 --> 01:29:58,560
Congressman Wike to help try to support
that appeal. But then, what is our

1168
01:29:56,080 --> 01:30:02,480
action plan if we do appeal it?
that you know that that's my only

1169
01:30:00,880 --> 01:30:05,840
concern. I don't mind appealing it, but
then I I don't want to appeal it and

1170
01:30:04,159 --> 01:30:12,000
then we have no action plan of how we're
going to do our part to bring up to

1171
01:30:08,480 --> 01:30:18,480
standard what the USPS is that you have
you have people who are in

1172
01:30:16,000 --> 01:30:21,360
the city of Goan.
Okay. That have an Elkins address.

1173
01:30:20,719 --> 01:30:24,560
» Me
>> I know that's what I'm saying. I mean

1174
01:30:23,679 --> 01:30:27,360
even here
>> yes it's an Elkins address. this

1175
01:30:26,159 --> 01:30:31,199
American's address
>> and people get confused when they're

1176
01:30:29,040 --> 01:30:34,080
looking for
people that have fable addresses and

1177
01:30:32,960 --> 01:30:39,440
then they tell everybody they live in
East Favville.

1178
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:44,159
» I I would like us to appeal. Um
>> I know that there was a House bill that

1179
01:30:42,719 --> 01:30:47,040
other communities are having the same
issue. They're rural. They want their

1180
01:30:45,679 --> 01:30:54,400
own zip codes. They've gone through
this. They've appealed. It's still a no.

1181
01:30:50,000 --> 01:31:02,000
they they somehow got on a House bill to
create what we want. Um so it's it's

1182
01:30:59,040 --> 01:31:04,719
actually so his aid actually said yes
that did pass Congress. It's in Senate

1183
01:31:03,920 --> 01:31:12,000
hearings now,
>> right? He says that I mean this is

1184
01:31:08,000 --> 01:31:16,400
according to Wax aid is that those
typically don't get pushed through at

1185
01:31:14,800 --> 01:31:24,400
the Senate level because they don't like
to interfere with USPS. Um so I don't

1186
01:31:21,600 --> 01:31:28,320
know that it will pass. It's already for
us to add on to that bill because the

1187
01:31:26,400 --> 01:31:33,440
bill's already gone through Congress. So
we can't add our name to it. But it is a

1188
01:31:31,360 --> 01:31:40,480
precedent. I mean, we we could wait and
see what happens with that bill and then

1189
01:31:35,600 --> 01:31:45,760
submit a a a new request if that bill
does go through. I mean, that might help

1190
01:31:43,280 --> 01:31:49,520
to solidify
>> to get approved

1191
01:31:46,320 --> 01:31:53,760
» with the Senate right now. We might
one of our senators and just let them

1192
01:31:52,400 --> 01:31:57,920
know that, hey, this has been on our
radar. Wouldn't hurt.

1193
01:31:56,800 --> 01:32:01,920
They're aware of it.
>> We can try to.

1194
01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:07,440
» Yeah. I haven't had much luck. That's
with our senators.

1195
01:32:05,040 --> 01:32:14,239
» Well, with with with
the plan we have now uh to appeal, I

1196
01:32:10,800 --> 01:32:20,800
think it would be I think we would be um
premature to put forth a ballot appeal

1197
01:32:17,840 --> 01:32:29,120
without an action plan. action plan
would have to include the ability to say

1198
01:32:23,600 --> 01:32:34,960
that we do have the means of ability to
facilitate what they're requiring.

1199
01:32:31,840 --> 01:32:41,679
I don't think that's the case. Um I
think we accept what they have and then

1200
01:32:38,159 --> 01:32:45,760
we come back later
and ask for it again if we have the

1201
01:32:44,159 --> 01:32:51,120
facilities what they're saying we need
to do. I think if we appeal uh the pill

1202
01:32:49,040 --> 01:32:56,480
is going to fail because we're not going
to be able to satisfy the requirements

1203
01:32:53,120 --> 01:33:01,280
of the appeal.
Not in two weeks. I'd just like to vote

1204
01:32:59,440 --> 01:33:05,840
from the council. How many of you want
me to file an appeal? And how many of

1205
01:33:03,679 --> 01:33:09,280
you want me to
be okay with this for now and then we'll

1206
01:33:07,840 --> 01:33:14,960
wait and see how this turns out in the
Senate. Let's have a vote. So, John, yes

1207
01:33:13,040 --> 01:33:17,760
or no? File appeal. Don't file an
appeal.

1208
01:33:19,760 --> 01:33:26,360
I don't think that uh we're going to get
any place by following an appeal.

1209
01:33:26,880 --> 01:33:34,560
» I don't think we need to
>> get through our options some more before

1210
01:33:33,040 --> 01:33:39,360
we
>> see what happens in the

1211
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:43,199
» accept the go option.
>> Yeah, definitely. Yeah.

1212
01:33:41,280 --> 01:33:49,920
» Except the go option, but
>> don't file the appeal.

1213
01:33:47,440 --> 01:33:53,280
» Okay.
>> All right.

1214
01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:57,120
We won't file the appeal, but we will
move forward with using go and I do

1215
01:33:55,679 --> 01:34:00,800
think we need to put on our website. We
probably need to do a mailer

1216
01:33:58,719 --> 01:34:02,960
» so everybody go is aware so they can
start using

1217
01:34:01,440 --> 01:34:07,520
» address changes would have to be.
>> Yes.

1218
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:10,960
» Can I get a verbal? I assume Colton, he
would have voted yes.

1219
01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:14,960
» Yeah, he won. Okay. And Curtis,
>> no.

1220
01:34:11,840 --> 01:34:20,320
» I'm asking Curtis. Yeah. Okay.
>> Will the USPS be sending out

1221
01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:22,000
notifications of the changing changes of
the addresses?

1222
01:34:21,600 --> 01:34:26,320
» Probably.
>> I can email if you want. We'll find that

1223
01:34:24,000 --> 01:34:30,320
out once we send the paperwork accepting
the compromise.

1224
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:32,960
» And then we'll see what the uh logistics
of that will be.

1225
01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:38,239
» Okay.
All right. So that brings us to the next

1226
01:34:35,360 --> 01:34:41,360
item which is uh item F which is
conflict of interest. What that is I

1227
01:34:40,639 --> 01:34:47,679
guess Brian.
>> Yeah. So Colton had reached with a

1228
01:34:44,400 --> 01:34:53,280
question for me. U
he was stating to me that the city had

1229
01:34:50,560 --> 01:34:57,679
hired a parks commissioner to work part
time on maintenance of the park. He

1230
01:34:56,080 --> 01:35:05,040
wanted to know whether or not this was a
conflict of interest. Uh,

1231
01:35:01,920 --> 01:35:12,159
best I can tell
Arkansas Code 1442107

1232
01:35:09,280 --> 01:35:17,760
is applicable to this situation,
which says that a council member,

1233
01:35:14,960 --> 01:35:24,159
official or municipal employee shall not
be interested directly or indirectly in

1234
01:35:21,360 --> 01:35:29,199
uh
profits of any contract for furniture,

1235
01:35:27,440 --> 01:35:34,800
supplies, equipment, services to the
city. U and it's been determined that

1236
01:35:33,280 --> 01:35:41,120
employment
by the city is a form of a contract. Uh

1237
01:35:39,120 --> 01:35:46,239
and so
my answer to calling and I recognize

1238
01:35:44,159 --> 01:35:52,320
it's just the parks commission which is
essentially an advisory board for but

1239
01:35:49,440 --> 01:35:58,159
Erin on the side of caution I would in
answering his question uh point you all

1240
01:35:55,360 --> 01:36:02,719
to that statute and that statute does
allow

1241
01:35:59,760 --> 01:36:08,880
uh employee
to also serve on a city board or in some

1242
01:36:05,840 --> 01:36:14,159
official capacity if the city council
has adopted ordinance specifically

1243
01:36:10,880 --> 01:36:17,120
allowing them to occur.
So

1244
01:36:14,800 --> 01:36:22,560
» we have two employees. We have Nathan
Snipes that's on the parks commission

1245
01:36:18,719 --> 01:36:28,080
and he's also a city police officer
>> and we have Mike Nemo who works

1246
01:36:24,320 --> 01:36:30,960
part-time for us doing you know
>> okay

1247
01:36:28,480 --> 01:36:34,080
» some park stuff some stuff just for the
infrastructure department. Well,

1248
01:36:32,900 --> 01:36:41,440
[clears throat] that was that was the
question from Colton and that was the

1249
01:36:35,679 --> 01:36:48,719
answer to that inquiry. Um, so I again
to if that is the case then the

1250
01:36:47,040 --> 01:36:53,719
I think to stay in line with this the
council needs to adopt an ordinance to

1251
01:36:50,480 --> 01:36:53,719
allow that.

1252
01:36:54,159 --> 01:36:59,520
» We're not that big of a town.
>> Yeah. [laughter]

1253
01:36:58,239 --> 01:37:03,840
» So we just need to bring that back.
>> Yeah. If y'all want me to bring an

1254
01:37:00,560 --> 01:37:07,520
ordinance back next month, I can do so.
>> Limited number of people in town that

1255
01:37:05,520 --> 01:37:11,600
are work to do the city.
>> Yep.

1256
01:37:08,719 --> 01:37:15,280
» So, I'll I'll bring an ordinance back uh
that is in line with the statute

1257
01:37:13,679 --> 01:37:18,639
» because that would literally twothirds
of our parks department. Our parks

1258
01:37:17,119 --> 01:37:22,400
commission
>> and Linda is going to be term expiring

1259
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:24,880
at the end of this year and she's not
going to be able to be reappointed

1260
01:37:23,440 --> 01:37:28,960
because she lives outside the city. So,
that would leave parks commissioners.

1261
01:37:27,440 --> 01:37:32,480
Those are very active parks
commissioners, too.

1262
01:37:30,320 --> 01:37:35,280
» Yeah.
>> So, I'll bring I'll bring an ordinance

1263
01:37:33,920 --> 01:37:38,800
back next month and y'all can consider
that.

1264
01:37:36,239 --> 01:37:43,520
» Okay, that's good.
>> All right. And then the next item on the

1265
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:48,400
agenda is item G, Riverside.
Dan, do you mind coming out and talk to

1266
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:52,320
me? I think we have some clear.
>> I know it's last

1267
01:37:50,480 --> 01:37:57,040
u so I can summarize it for you, but I
think you have a copy. Thanks to Miss

1268
01:37:55,040 --> 01:38:01,199
Abby for the last second assist in
getting this in front of you. Thank you

1269
01:37:59,199 --> 01:38:06,000
for the council or mayor both for
putting it on the agenda for discussion.

1270
01:38:03,199 --> 01:38:10,480
In your two bullets
on this, it's a lot of words to simply

1271
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:16,000
say that the Riverside Estates Board of
Directors is fulfilling the requirement

1272
01:38:13,280 --> 01:38:19,600
of the of the council.
Roughly eight months ago or so, you may

1273
01:38:18,080 --> 01:38:26,480
remember probably the last time we
talked about this. Um, you had required

1274
01:38:23,440 --> 01:38:33,199
that I secure a letter uh with
signatures from the board expressing our

1275
01:38:29,600 --> 01:38:39,520
interest in pursuing a conversation with
the council about the prospect of street

1276
01:38:36,719 --> 01:38:46,000
ownership in Riverside Estates and what
that may look like or what possibilities

1277
01:38:43,119 --> 01:38:50,719
might be there. And it took longer than
I expected or would have liked, but here

1278
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:57,600
we are. And here is the letter and it's
signed. So, I know this is last session.

1279
01:38:53,760 --> 01:39:01,280
Um, I don't expect any resolution or or
action item or anything like that

1280
01:38:58,880 --> 01:39:06,560
tonight, but it's a it's uh I'm happy
that we were able to get it onto the

1281
01:39:03,920 --> 01:39:10,320
agenda because now I'll be there and
give you some time to think about it.

1282
01:39:08,960 --> 01:39:14,239
But our position is pretty
straightforward. As you can imagine, the

1283
01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:17,760
board of directors is responsible for
the maintenance and the upkeep, every

1284
01:39:16,159 --> 01:39:21,920
aspect of the street. So they're owned
by the residents equally. So this is not

1285
01:39:20,320 --> 01:39:25,760
you know uh what happens with those
streets would still have to go before

1286
01:39:23,360 --> 01:39:32,719
our residents but as a first step and in
satisfying your requirement. This is the

1287
01:39:28,800 --> 01:39:38,000
letter and the board is interested in
any dialogue about the prospect of I

1288
01:39:36,320 --> 01:39:43,360
don't know legally speaking I don't know
if it's deed you probably know Brian

1289
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:45,920
deeding uh the have to dedicate the
roads to the city and then the city

1290
01:39:44,719 --> 01:39:50,960
would have to accept it.
>> Perfect. dedicate and accept. So that

1291
01:39:48,239 --> 01:39:57,360
that I think would be the board's
intended outcome, but um no question in

1292
01:39:55,440 --> 01:40:04,400
my mind that this is not [clears throat]
an easy sell. Um probably especially to

1293
01:40:00,159 --> 01:40:11,520
the finance folks [laughter] like Mr.
But uh nevertheless, that's the purpose

1294
01:40:08,080 --> 01:40:14,320
in this document. And I'm hoping that uh
if you have any questions or any

1295
01:40:13,119 --> 01:40:18,960
comments, you're not going to hurt my
feelings if you say this is there's no

1296
01:40:17,280 --> 01:40:22,400
business interest or advantage
whatsoever. The city council on behalf

1297
01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:30,080
of the city if you said that you would
hurt my feelings at all. John, John,

1298
01:40:25,840 --> 01:40:35,040
never disappoint. Um I get that. I do.
But in any case, I'd like to uh it was

1299
01:40:32,639 --> 01:40:39,199
always the point to I don't want to say
force the conversation, but at least to

1300
01:40:36,960 --> 01:40:44,000
exhaust all the options because this is
actually a hold over topic from my first

1301
01:40:42,159 --> 01:40:51,119
firm as president of that board that
never got resolved and then I was not

1302
01:40:46,880 --> 01:40:56,239
and now I am again. So just trying to
close this out however it closes out. So

1303
01:40:54,159 --> 01:41:00,400
if you have any questions or any
comments or statements that you want to

1304
01:40:57,760 --> 01:41:06,080
make now time, that's great. If not, I'm
hoping that we can figure out a way to

1305
01:41:03,920 --> 01:41:11,440
u continue the conversation.
>> I I just question a when was the street

1306
01:41:09,760 --> 01:41:16,880
when was the street initially put in?
When was it serviced? What were the

1307
01:41:13,360 --> 01:41:21,360
engineering designs standards that were
in the actual design standard of the

1308
01:41:19,280 --> 01:41:25,920
street? And then is there any current
damage to any of the streets?

1309
01:41:23,040 --> 01:41:31,119
» Great questions. all that comes out on
that will be I think further discusses

1310
01:41:29,520 --> 01:41:35,040
the council does things I'd really want
to know

1311
01:41:32,960 --> 01:41:39,440
» not just in this particular situation
it's no different for others are not

1312
01:41:37,360 --> 01:41:44,000
good at all
but I think it brings about dialogue to

1313
01:41:42,960 --> 01:41:51,119
say
>> if X Y and Z are done and they would be

1314
01:41:49,040 --> 01:41:56,719
eligible to present to the city to
>> that's my concern is we adopt up yours.

1315
01:41:54,719 --> 01:42:00,480
And I mean, I'm not opposed to it. I
just think we drop yours, they have to

1316
01:41:58,960 --> 01:42:04,480
drop the NLES, and we have to drop down
your ranch. And then then, you know,

1317
01:42:02,960 --> 01:42:09,119
they take down their gate. Now we have
Waterford, and the city gets $200,000 to

1318
01:42:07,119 --> 01:42:14,880
take care of all these new streets that
we've not been maintaining. And then

1319
01:42:12,239 --> 01:42:20,880
what do we do if we don't have the
finances to be able to to fix those? At

1320
01:42:18,880 --> 01:42:25,280
what point is it I mean, I'm having a
hard time even fixing the ones we have.

1321
01:42:23,119 --> 01:42:28,880
and I'm getting $400,000 grants that
we're waiting a year to get so that we

1322
01:42:26,800 --> 01:42:34,800
can resurface streets that, you know, we
don't have money to maintain. So,

1323
01:42:32,400 --> 01:42:39,520
» I like the idea. I do. I think it's a I
think it's a great idea. I I don't know

1324
01:42:36,719 --> 01:42:44,000
how we've not adopted these, you know,
when we build subdivisions, but

1325
01:42:41,440 --> 01:42:49,280
» Well, and part of it is that whenever
you build a street, you want a secondary

1326
01:42:47,520 --> 01:42:53,040
engineering firm. You know, this is what
most cities do that they have a

1327
01:42:50,719 --> 01:42:58,000
secondary independent engineering firm
that is confirming that street

1328
01:42:55,600 --> 01:43:03,840
construction and that's going on in that
subdivision. Something that has ever not

1329
01:43:01,119 --> 01:43:08,239
happened in Goan ever. And so without
having that history of knowing the

1330
01:43:06,239 --> 01:43:12,320
street conditions,
it you know puts everybody in difficult

1331
01:43:10,000 --> 01:43:18,400
position to know that that street is
going to maintain integrity.

1332
01:43:15,040 --> 01:43:23,199
» Understood. Um, I've tried to reach out
to ESI and been unsuccessful, but I will

1333
01:43:21,360 --> 01:43:26,960
continue to try. I'm trying to get
anything they're willing to give me

1334
01:43:24,639 --> 01:43:30,719
about the original construction. I don't
think anything is filed. I don't think

1335
01:43:28,880 --> 01:43:34,719
I'm not sure if that happens or not, but
the county tells me they have nothing. I

1336
01:43:32,560 --> 01:43:41,040
think city hall, I'm not sure if it was
you or Lacy that I spoke to, but told me

1337
01:43:38,239 --> 01:43:45,920
they had they had nothing of record. Um,
>> but if it's not in our code, then do we

1338
01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:50,880
need to look at establishing that to
ensure that any type of subdivision

1339
01:43:47,840 --> 01:43:53,679
comes in meets these standards? Period.
>> Oh, definitely.

1340
01:43:52,000 --> 01:43:57,199
» If you're going to be if you're going to
be accepting them, you definitely have

1341
01:43:56,239 --> 01:44:02,800
to have
>> right something as a code

1342
01:44:00,719 --> 01:44:10,000
» for the city.
>> Agree. No, no doubt about it. I mean,

1343
01:44:07,280 --> 01:44:12,320
» you take water for
Example, cat. Huh?

1344
01:44:11,280 --> 01:44:15,920
» Nobody allowed it.
>> Exactly.

1345
01:44:13,040 --> 01:44:24,400
» I don't know how many times
those streets have been cut up, dug up

1346
01:44:22,560 --> 01:44:29,199
» to fix the water lines.
>> That's partly bay of build water and we

1347
01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:33,280
even we have frustrations with that. I
mean, they cut J Street over here.

1348
01:44:31,520 --> 01:44:38,960
That's a great terrible
>> times in the last two years historical.

1349
01:44:37,600 --> 01:44:43,360
It's just going to cost water for
presidents a lot once all these cuts

1350
01:44:41,440 --> 01:44:46,639
have started to fail. We're already kind
of going through speed bumps now on some

1351
01:44:45,280 --> 01:44:49,920
of those. So,
>> you need something to some of those kids

1352
01:44:48,000 --> 01:44:56,000
down on that. [laughter]
>> Maybe this is a question maybe you can

1353
01:44:53,040 --> 01:45:00,560
answer. Bville doesn't even notify us
when they come and cut a street city.

1354
01:44:59,040 --> 01:45:04,400
Now, I know that we have something
written in our ordinances that they're

1355
01:45:02,159 --> 01:45:09,040
supposed to, but they don't. They just
come and cut the street. They cut Hail

1356
01:45:07,040 --> 01:45:13,760
Road up here and never contacted city
hall at all and then did a terrible job

1357
01:45:12,320 --> 01:45:16,159
patching it up and I had to send the
guys back up there to fix it because you

1358
01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:20,719
know
>> Well, I know we have they come in they

1359
01:45:19,119 --> 01:45:24,320
used to, you know, cut
>> is there any repercussions on city

1360
01:45:22,639 --> 01:45:30,800
streets that they're cutting?
>> Probably not. They've got an easement

1361
01:45:28,080 --> 01:45:33,840
the right to maintain whatever utility
they have there.

1362
01:45:31,440 --> 01:45:37,760
» What they do what they do in water.
Okay.

1363
01:45:35,280 --> 01:45:42,000
They have to
>> have to

1364
01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:45,119
» and put it back
>> exactly like it was.

1365
01:45:44,159 --> 01:45:46,960
» Is it ever?
>> Yes.

1366
01:45:45,600 --> 01:45:50,800
» So they they would have the same
obligation on a road.

1367
01:45:49,280 --> 01:45:54,480
» Yeah.
>> Whether they do that or not is another

1368
01:45:52,800 --> 01:45:57,280
» Well, question.
>> Yeah.

1369
01:45:55,119 --> 01:46:00,800
» They have not been maintaining the road
cuts the way that they should.

1370
01:45:59,280 --> 01:46:04,480
» That's right. on any of the ones that
I've seen and there's been several since

1371
01:46:03,520 --> 01:46:08,800
I've been in office.
>> They have too many road cuts going. They

1372
01:46:06,320 --> 01:46:16,080
can't keep up with it.
>> Obviously with the road cuts that allows

1373
01:46:10,560 --> 01:46:17,920
more water to get in the bills that
>> anyway

1374
01:46:16,639 --> 01:46:21,119
» coming back around though.
>> But I I I'm glad that you're you know

1375
01:46:19,920 --> 01:46:26,080
bring it back. You've got your
signatures. We can look at it more and

1376
01:46:23,040 --> 01:46:30,400
discuss it. figure out maybe standards
on what we would accept

1377
01:46:28,960 --> 01:46:34,719
about that.
>> I'll promise you're done that they're

1378
01:46:32,800 --> 01:46:39,040
willing to get
>> I can't

1379
01:46:37,440 --> 01:46:43,360
do a core test or something of that
nature in several different locations to

1380
01:46:40,880 --> 01:46:48,400
try to predict on how that compaction
was done and how much actual asphalt

1381
01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:52,719
material was used and things of that
nature. But at least we can start

1382
01:46:50,400 --> 01:46:58,560
thinking that direction. Is there any
damage to the road?

1383
01:46:54,159 --> 01:47:01,440
» Almost none. Um, we have a uh
one that made it planning process. We've

1384
01:47:00,400 --> 01:47:05,199
been in touch with three different
companies that have come out and given

1385
01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:11,199
us assessments and there's been almost
there's been no there's no line items in

1386
01:47:07,679 --> 01:47:14,320
the bids for any repair work at all. So,
I mean, we've got some, you know,

1387
01:47:12,239 --> 01:47:19,440
there's some gouges, but we're talking
about minimal, you know, very minimal.

1388
01:47:16,800 --> 01:47:24,719
Our streets are in great shape. Nothing
like you know Walker and Noles or any

1389
01:47:23,119 --> 01:47:30,920
other random subdivision like
>> I mean we've we've put down a char

1390
01:47:32,159 --> 01:47:38,080
» anyway
I'll try to bring back more information

1391
01:47:37,040 --> 01:47:43,280
next time.
>> Thank you.

1392
01:47:40,960 --> 01:47:47,600
» All right brings us to uh kind of the
end here. We got comments for alderman

1393
01:47:45,520 --> 01:47:52,360
city attorney.
You guys have any other comments?

1394
01:47:53,840 --> 01:47:57,440
» Well, we have to have public input.
[laughter]

1395
01:47:55,760 --> 01:48:01,360
» Well, I thought we did that just now.
>> Well, no. At the end of the meeting, we

1396
01:47:59,360 --> 01:48:03,760
have a time for public input again. So,
okay.

1397
01:48:01,679 --> 01:48:08,480
» There's a public input time for anybody
that's wanting to come up and talk. Got

1398
01:48:06,080 --> 01:48:13,119
two minutes up here at the podium.
>> You had it earlier in the meeting, but

1399
01:48:10,400 --> 01:48:16,719
the the audio quality in the, you know,
gallery is terrible.

1400
01:48:14,159 --> 01:48:21,600
» Yeah. Uh, I would say if I graded it, it
I would maybe give it an F+. It's I

1401
01:48:19,679 --> 01:48:25,840
would say I probably heard about 15% of
the meeting. And it just seems to me

1402
01:48:23,760 --> 01:48:31,119
like there's a continuous feedback like
all mics are open, all speakers are

1403
01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:35,679
open. And I think we you spent about 10
grand or so to upgrade this. This is not

1404
01:48:33,679 --> 01:48:38,480
just this meeting. The last I mean, ever
since I've probably been to five or six

1405
01:48:37,199 --> 01:48:43,600
meetings since the new stuff got
installed, and it's always bad. It's as

1406
01:48:41,119 --> 01:48:48,239
bad tonight as it's ever been. And it
seems like I mean especially we spent

1407
01:48:45,440 --> 01:48:52,159
10k on it. This is a small room with not
that many people and if these people

1408
01:48:50,400 --> 01:48:56,800
can't hear to me that's the biggest
failure. Um it's supposed to be for

1409
01:48:55,119 --> 01:48:58,880
these people right
>> so um

1410
01:48:57,840 --> 01:49:06,400
» get back out here
>> whatever it takes. I think uh

1411
01:49:02,800 --> 01:49:14,880
» I agree it's reality 100%. Yeah, I do
not have a background in AB otherwise it

1412
01:49:10,730 --> 01:49:18,119
[clears throat] was I can fix this.
>> Any other

1413
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:25,600
» make a motion to adjurnn.
>> All right, Mr.

1414
01:49:23,760 --> 01:49:29,320
» Second. All those in favor?
>> I I

1415
01:49:33,840 --> 01:49:40,560
made without go to St. Paul. It's way
smaller.