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>> call this meeting of the town planning

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board to order. Please rise for the
pledge of

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» allegiance
to the flag of the United States of

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America to the republic for it stands
one nationice

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for all.
>> Thank you.

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First item on the agenda is the approval
of minutes August 6, 20126.

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Comments or revisions?

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» There are none. Can I have a motion then
to approve the minutes of August 6th as

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prepared?
>> Move.

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» Fell second by second.
>> Giovani. All in favor say I.

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» I.
>> Against.

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» One abstension. Thank you.

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» Next item on the agenda is the possible
extension or abandonment of applications

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pursuant to town code. Project being
Young's Grove Rigger.

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We have a letter uh dated August 12th,
2026 from engineering and surveying

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properties addressed to the planning
board regarding this application.

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With this letter, we are requesting a
spot on the August 20th, 2026 planning

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board agenda to request two 90-day
extensions of the conditional

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preliminary major subdivision approval
[clears throat] for the reference

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project. The conditional preliminary
approval is scheduled to expire on or

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about August 20th, 2026, today. We have
attached a summary of activities that

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have occurred in the past several months
in an effort to complete the conditions

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of preliminary approval. Thank you for
your attention to this matter. Should

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you have any questions, please do not
hesitate to contact our office.

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Sincerely, Steve Espazito
and we have a project update. It's

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project update number 24
dated August 12th, 2026.

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Again, the applicant is requesting two
90-day extensions of his conditional

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preliminary major subdivision approval.
Since approval, the following items have

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been addressed and completed.
The applicant is continuing a dialogue

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with the town board and village board
regarding sanitary waste.

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Applicant drafted a developer agreement
for a water system and providing water

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to Stonehenge subdivision, which is
currently under review by the town board

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and town attorney. Two, the applicant
received comments from the New York

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State DEC regarding our water withdrawal
permit application that was submitted to

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the department on December 12th, 2023.
Applicant is responding to the DEEC

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comments. Applicant needs resolution of
sewer treatment with the village to

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complete the responses and revisions to
the New York State DEEC comments.

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[cough]
Number three, based on the final

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resolution of sewer treatment and water
with the town and village, the applicant

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will revise the preliminary approved
subdivision plans for the planning board

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approval.
>> Sean,

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» I have nothing further, but Ross is here
if he has anything to add.

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» Nothing to add. I know they've been
trying to work out the sewer issue.

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» Okay.
comments from the board.

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» Okay. In that case, uh, two 90-day
extensions would take us to what?

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» February 18th, 27th.

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» [clears throat]
>> I have a motion then to grant the two

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90-day extensions to February 18, 2027
for the conditional preliminary major

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subdivision approval for Craigville LLC,
Rever Homes, also known as Young's

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Grove.
>> The motion

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» Marty second by
a second.

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» Phil, all in favor say I.
>> I.

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» Against.

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» [cough]
>> Next item,

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public hearings.
First one being Anttoaga Mansion

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2-1-21.2
21.3 21.4 and 21.5.

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application for a site plan and special
permit approval for a catering facility

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with accessory guest rooms and spa on
145.7 plus or minus acres on New York

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State Route 207 in RU zone with the AQ3
overlay. Do we have anyone from the

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public here for this public hearing?

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» Uh once we take care of company up here,
I'll open it up to the public and the

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floor will be yours.

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Uh so this uh was opened a zero time not
open this was last discussed a June 18th

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meeting. At that time the applicant
requested an endurement which we

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provided till this evening. I followed
up with the applicant who gave us an

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email that asked for an additional
three-month procurement and they

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indicated that they are preparing to
submit a uh petition to [clears throat]

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the town board for a zoning amendment.
Don't know anything further than that.

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Um so if board's interested in u
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that you open the public hearing to take
any public comment and then if you want

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to provide the three months of gap
question that would be your

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» adjourn to November 18th
>> that's what the okay

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bill comments on this application
>> well Um, I'm not sure what the uh

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change in zoning is all about. That's a
big unknown factor. I do think as it

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stands without that change, I think it's
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does permit a residential property to be
used for business purposes if it meets

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certain criteria.
And I am wondering one of the criteria

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criteria is [clears throat] one of the
criteria is the exterior appearance

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of the residential structure is not
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And another one is that the business
occupies less than 5,000 square ft of

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floor space area. We have a 10,000
square foot more or less 10,000 square

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foot
residence that they are proposing to

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expand to 55,000
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hear at some point from the applicant
given that those are criterion criteria

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for satisfying
business purpose for residential

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purpose. [clears throat]
How this uh proposed use, a catering

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facility, an event facility would meet
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You want to weigh on that?
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this. Um I understand it was initial
determination by Frank that it was

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consistent with the zoning that was
appealed by the neighbor went to the

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ZBA.
Um that appeal has been stayed. Um they

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have met with planners. Um we're looking
at the comprehensive plan and potential

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zoning amendment. only one has been
drafted with maps in place and I think

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it's probably going in the next day or
two to the town board regarding amending

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the zoning for the shoots.
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I I just have a couple questions.
Actually, there some of them may have

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been addressed, but
uh in the design itself, the valet

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parking area, we're not showing any
lighting. Um

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vehicles are going to be picked up from
that area in the evening hours after an

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event. I'm not sure why we have no
lights other than whatever light the

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go-kart has. You know, the golf cart or
the uh

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» you know but you know something to
consider as far as evening hours

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lighting um we were talking about the
venues being separated by two hours and

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I wasn't sure if that means that they'll
be staggered in the sense that two hours

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one will start after the other and in
two hours earlier than the other so

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there's always a two-hour lag between
the two I think that needs to be cleared

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up a little bit what the maximum number
of hours are so they could maintain that

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shift. Um [snorts]
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don't appear to have any lighting. Also,
not sure why uh unless it's being used

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in daytime hours and not part of an
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just want to confirm there's no
intention to have fireworks or outdoor

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amplification.
>> No. uh consideration for solar panels on

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the roof since we have a sizable amount
of roof uh deck. I don't know if that's

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been considered as far as the energy uh
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Um and also where the water's coming
from irrigating the shrubs and the lawns

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because we're saying that we're
maintaining lawns. Uh I don't know if

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it's going to be like a irrigation
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and if so, is there a tank or a holding
rain water and what are we using?

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So I mean typically we would propose
landscaping that doesn't require any

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irrigation especially in New York
not not to need any kind of irrigation

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» even the lawns know just
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» Yep.
>> Use the right plantings that don't

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require
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» We wouldn't know this summer.
And the other thing was the two storm

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water management ponds as far as
landscaping and fencing around those

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since they but the parking areas. Uh I
didn't see anything on plans preliminary

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plans anyway that shows anything like
that. Something to consider.

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» I don't necessarily have any questions
right now on the site plan, but can you

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uh tell me what zoning changes are they
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I I don't I don't quite know exactly
because Steve's been handling um that

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zoning process [clears throat] attorney
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Steve's office and I know they had met
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overlay zone um that was the initial
concept um that would allow certain uses

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if you had certain frontages on state
highways you had certain acreages so

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forth that was the initial concept that
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I guess
>> it'll be introduced here any Yeah. any

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day.
>> All right. [clears throat]

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» Nothing. I second Phil's comments.
>> Sure.

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» So, I'm I'm totally in agreement with
Phil, but I do have a question. Um,

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Ross, if uh
the accessory uses or the accessory

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service businesses in in the
establishment are not going to be open

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to the general public. They're going to
be open specifically to the people that

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have events booked at the facility.
Correct.

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» Yep. That's correct.
>> So, we're not going to find these rooms

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on Airbnb or
>> Correct.

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» things like that. They're not going to
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» It's an event that right now up at
>> the bar, the bill of an easy that old

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house there he actually
>> he's doing right. So, that and I know

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that that's how he operates those two
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» I was assuming
>> the same intent here.

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» I was assuming it was going to be the
same intent here. I just wanted to hear

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it straight from you.
>> So these accessory uses are strictly for

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the event space. They're not separate
>> and and and additional businesses. It's

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it's one it's covered under
>> correct. They're accessory to the event

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» to the event. Okay, great. That was my
my big question. And as far as the site

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plan goes, um I think I think I'm okay.
>> One more question. The catering costs

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that will only be for on-site activities
>> related to the onsite.

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» Yeah.
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» to the general public. Correct. Okay.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Any luck they will have any

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any time to cater outside the facility
and he does it out of his current

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facility.
>> Okay. So he's he's essentially

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his plan is to duplicate his other two
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» with a different
>> different look different

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» different look different location
different services.

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» Yeah.

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» Any other comments or concerns?

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If not, we'll
uh open up the public hearing. Um any

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anyone else besides Neil wish to speak?

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Uh what I'd like you to do once we open
the public hearing is just introduce

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yourself and your address for the record
and then state your concerns. I need a

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motion to open the public hearings.
>> So moved.

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» Giovani second by
>> Eric. All in favor say I.

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» I. against public hearing is open and I
recognize you state

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how res
uh hearing about the possible zoning

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change may make any move or whatever but
uh lacking that change uh my concern is

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that I think it's going to go to the ZBA
and if the ZBA uh the power the ZBA has

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to balance look at it and balance the
advantage to the uh the owner of the

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property versus the impact to the to the
neighborhood. And I think one of the

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issues with that then is you need to
start what's the the impact right now as

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as permitted which would be as stated
5,000 ft of usage. Uh, and so what's the

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impact if you have open it up this 5,000
foot facility and then what's the impact

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if you make it a 55,000 foot facility
and I would suggest if it's going to be

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considered that way that you also have
the applicant look at if they just use

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the existing facility recognizing the
fact that there's an existing building

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there that's is in excess of 5,000 ft.
it may make sense to visit it at that

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and say, "Hey, we can give the ZBA may
decide, hey, we can give you the 13,000

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whatever, but we can't go up 55,000." I
think it just be helpful if when you're

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doing the environmental review that you
have those impacts specified that way.

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It would be helpful for the ZBA to be
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Right. Thank you.
>> Thanks, Neil.

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» Anyone else from the public wish to
speak on this application?

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So
>> the applicant requested three months

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that would bring you to your November
19th meeting.

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» So that being the case, can I have a
motion then to adjourn this public

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hearing to November 19th, 2026.
>> Phil second by second.

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» Marty, all in favor say I. I
[clears throat and snorts]

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[cough]

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Next item on the agenda,
public hearing once again for CDA

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Extreme Sports Training Center 2596 Gan,
New York LLC, formerly known as Unifi

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12-1-117.
application for an amended site plan and

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special permit for the conversion of a
light industry to recreational business

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on 5.3 acres New York State Road 17M in
HC zone with an AQ6 overlay.

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» Good evening. Ross Witz engineering and
surveying properties. I'm here with

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Joyce who is with CDA Extreme, the uh
operator of the cheer

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» Y. Okay. Um,
just to get everybody uh oriented, this

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is the former furniture options
building. Um, it was purchased by

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European Outdoors probably about 5 years
ago um and converted for their use um to

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a special permit. Um, their business had
declined. They ended up selling the

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property um to a new owner who had
brought in a tenant uniplant who we were

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here a couple years ago for it. Uh
European Outdoors has uh basically

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disappeared. Um and the the use of their
facility which is about 10,381 square ft

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uh where they have been it will be
occupied by CDA Extreme and their

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training facility. Um there's not a lot
of site improvements proposed. There's a

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bunch of striping um in what was the
loading area, loading dots in the back

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that we use uh for the building. Um we
proposed parking there that was part of

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our discussion in the July meeting. Um
we show routing um proper widths, proper

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spacing, drop off area for parents. Um
any overflow would come to the front

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could park in the front. um signage for
that provide.

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Um
it's really it. We did the sewer test.

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Everything came back fine. The applicant
uh the owner, I should say, it's not the

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applicant, the owner is pursuing uh
Department of Health approval for the

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water system. [cough and clears throat]
Be glad to answer any questions.

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» Thanks, Ross.
>> Not much to add, Mr. Chairman. This is

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amendment.
Uh the applicant indicated this was

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before you back on July 16th. written
comments on July 10th. The applicant has

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made recent submission requested
responding to those comments and also

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addressing some requested and this is
listed this evening for public

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um
two issues. One one we raised earlier at

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another meeting which was ADA compliance
for the

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as an entryway and an exit to the
facility and the other uh there was a

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one of the narratives concerning the
project you uh discussed

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u
for the younger children that they had

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to be accompanied after practice.
>> They had to be accompanied by an adult.

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» Yep.
>> To

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uh safely get through the parking lot to
to the cars. It would seem to me that uh

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that plan, whatever it is, it should be
put down in writing and it should apply,

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I think, to all of the athletes
>> who are involved

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» because, you know, you get teenagers,
they can be pretty distractable.

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» Well, we have cameras located throughout
the building so I can watch we have

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cameras located throughout the building
so I can watch the parking lot. The kids

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aren't allowed to leave till they see
their parents in the lot. They're not

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allowed to hang out in the parking lot.
So, a 13 and 14 year old [clears throat]

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can go into the lot and find her dad's
car and jump in. They're not allowed to

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stay outside if they are outside. As of
this week, it was nice out, so they were

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outside. I had a coach sitting outside
with them. So, that does happen, but the

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parents aren't parking to pick those
kids up. They're driving up, the kids

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are jumping in, and they're leaving. Um,
the mini parents, which are the

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9-year-old and under group, their
parents will park in the back 5 minutes

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before pickup, and they will wait in
their cars. When they see the kids come

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up to the steps, they come out to the
steps, they grab their kids, they put

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them in the car. So, this is a system
we've been using since COVID um when we

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had had kids check in and check out. So,
it has worked for us. The little kids

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are being escorted through the parking
lot. The older kids are not allowed to

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hang out in the parking lot and are free
going to the parking lot. They look at

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the door, their parents is here, they go
to the parking lot. There's no hanging

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out or congregating in the parking lot
alone.

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» I just leave it to the board whether
whether or not you want to see something

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in writing to that effect.
>> I think it is in writing in the

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narrative. I just have to specify in the
narrative. I wrote the narrative. I have

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to specify in the narrative that the
juniors and older teams don't leave and

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go into the curriculum until more
detail.

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» Yep.
>> I can do that.

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» Okay.
>> Um Philip mentioned the uh ADA access.

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» Uh yeah, why don't you tell us uh more
about what you think? Um, so what we can

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do here is providing uh handicap access,
handicap parking up front at the

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entrance. We're adding two parking
spots. Um, there'll be uh there's a

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front entrance store that's handicap
accessible. It has cameras on it and

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there is a bell on it. So um they can
activate the bell that can notify them

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that they're there. So if it's after
hours and say uni plank is closed, they

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can activate the bell.
Joyce staff has access to that door and

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has
>> I do have I do have agreement with Uni

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Plank that for ADA access I have their
security code for the entire building

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and I may access the front door and
bring them through the hallway into our

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door because we do have an access point
between the two spaces.

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» So the path that's depicted on the plan
[clears throat] what is is that a is

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that a hallway is that?
>> So no that's just a hypothetical path. I

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mean we haven't been inside the building
to lay a path out. That would be up to

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the architect when they finalize the
division. But was something that Frank

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will be will look at
>> that is actually that's actually close

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to the path. So the path is just a
little further over. There's a door

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right here. There's a garage door and a
large another large door right here

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between the center of the two spaces.
And it's a hallway space. It is hallway.

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» Is that hallway space to find walls?
>> Not to find walls.

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» So what would
>> Yes, it's storage actually. So it's far

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it's very wide. So you're talking about
probably 16t clearance walkway. Um, they

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have racking and storage on one side.
>> What What prevents anyone going through

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that hallway to wander off that path?
>> Well, we have the door locked.

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» So, I'm talking.
>> So, they have to be escorted. Yeah, we

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have the door locked. So, we have the
door locked from our side. They can't

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just free rain and roam through the
building. Um,

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» so not they're not just getting buzzed
in.

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» No, they're getting they're getting
escorted. I'm going to pick them up at

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the door. A coach is going to pick them
up at the door and bring them through.

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Chances of us having handicap somebody
handicapped that's entering is probably

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very slim. It'll be very occasional if
it's a mom or dad or somebody that needs

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to come in for a reason, but other than
that, there's not many reasons why we've

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been there a year and there hasn't been
one situation that we've had to use the

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door.
>> Okay. I I I want to back that up a

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little bit. I do think you want to
provide opportunities for people who

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need accessible entrances to work for
you or to attend these competitions like

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that. I don't I don't think that it
hasn't happened that much before is like

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a great answer to that, but but we can
get through it. Um,

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how do people know uh how to get to this
entrance require uh access and you know

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» well we actually gave some thought today
cuz he called me to verify what we were

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doing with the ADA and we're going to
put signage on the front that says that

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you have to give us a call and Buzz is
right in the doorbell and we will come

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and escort you through the building if
you require um assistance. So we're

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going to put that signage right by the
doorbell in the front. the doorbell is

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there where we're going to put signage
specifying that because it gave me some

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thought like yeah they really don't know
unless they're already in our program.

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If they're in their program they have a
band, they all know to communicate to

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your band. They can get me within
minutes on band and I will get to that

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door. But if they don't know and they're
just visiting then we're going to put a

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sign that says, "Hey, ring the bell and
give us a call and we'll come to get

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you."
>> Can I can I just expand on [snorts]

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Jeremy said competition? There's just
going to be training. No actual

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competition. No, we don't host
competitions.

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» We attend competitions. We don't host
competitions.

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» There there was some correspondence
question.

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» Yeah.
>> Yeah. No, we won't host competitions

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there. This facility is not meant to
hold competitions.

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» And what I would um
more than recommend, what I think you're

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obligated to do is also put some signage
on the main door

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» for [clears throat] your facility
directing the rear.

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» No, 100%. So the signage that he
proposed in the parking lot, he had

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specified drop off pickup. And with
that, when I was giving it some extra

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thought today, I'm going with the
signage on the back door saying that

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this is where we're like maybe they
already know the system, but signage

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seems appropriate.
>> And I guess the only other question is

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if Uni Plank uh goes the way of outdoor
whatever like uh if if the tenant chang.

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» So I have a backup plan. I don't want to
get into that backup plan because it's

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going to be financially costly to me and
actually landlord should probably take

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care of it. But our side door does have
it is wide enough for ADA access. So we

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have a door that is located right here
on this concrete pad. We could do a

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walkway. So now there'll be a walkway
from this entrance to here. If Uniplank

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was to go away and I was not access the
building, that would be what I would

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propose to an landlord is that I get a
sidewalk that gives me that access right

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into the side. If I can make a
recommendation for an intermediate um

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addition to the resolution which would
just be that it is your obligation to

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come to us if that's okay in the event
that the change no longer gives you

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access.
>> Yeah.

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» My lease is only for two more years. He
has said he will extend it because of

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this.
>> He's with the amount of work he put into

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this. So um I've actually spoken to him
and it's probably going to be a future

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plan regardless because it just makes it
a second pathway for me. But right now,

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this is what we're holding to is the ADA
will use the front doors.

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» Mr. Chairman, can I just chime in on
that,

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» please?
>> So, if the ADA access is going to move

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to the rear, you're also going to have
to convert those standard parking stalls

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to ADA stalls. There have to be access
from those stalls through that door.

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» Yes. That it actually be right there
actually within the path would be right

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next to them.
>> No, I I just want you to realize that

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you may be losing some standard stalls
in place.

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» No, I do understand that.
Okay. Thank you. I appreciate

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» I just want to make sure I understand
this. You have here the student drop off

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area.
>> That's where the older children are

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being dropped off there.
>> The older children are being dropped off

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in the student drop off area. So, they
just drive the loop. Typically, a parent

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just drives the loop. They pull up to
the door and the kid fits out. They keep

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driving and they leave. Um or they park
in the front. Uh the minis are the ones

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using those back parking spots. Their
parents will drop them off, walk them

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in, get back in their car. Most of them
do not stay. if they're able to stay,

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but most most people just leave. They
just leave. Like that's just the way the

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program goes. They just drop and go.
They go have coffee. They go shopping

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with their girlfriend. They have dinner.
Like I am the babysitter for that 45

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minutes that those kids are there.
>> So what entrance are the older kids

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going?
>> The back end our main entrance which is

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the rear building
>> which is in the rear. Okay. So that

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means they have to walk walk along along
this pave. That's the drop off area.

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» No, no, no. They they would be what?
This is all

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» be here and they walk on strip. That's
completely blank. There's nothing there.

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» That's just a sign that's going to say
student drop off area, right? By the

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way,
>> it's a full striped area in front of the

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door that would say.
>> Yes.

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» So then technically all kids are going
to be dropped off in the back.

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» Yeah. Everybody get off the back.
>> The parents just don't park in the back.

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That's just a science
[snorts]

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[clears throat]

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» again. Back to the site plan.
>> Uh next to the rear parking lot, you

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have your uh sewage disposal area.
>> Mhm.

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» Uh and it said in the New York plan that
there was going to be traffic cones to

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there is traffic cones there.
>> I mean, what exactly that I mean, is

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that something that's permanent or we
talking those little tiny

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» I'm talking about cones and rope. That's
all we have is cones and rope in the

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winter. It's a non-issue. you cannot
possibly park up there because the

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amount of snow and ice and just is muddy
and they don't want to park there. It's

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just summertime that they like to hang
out with their friends. So, they were

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parking there. So, I roped it off um
because it's a big field plane field.

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So, they were parking there. So, I roped
it off so they could not damage the

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sewer or septic system. Um they've
actually declined with the rain. They

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haven't been parking back there.
[laughter]

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» Is is there anything we could do that's
maybe a little bit more permanent than

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that?
>> What would you like to see? What What

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would you
>> plus come up with something? So they're

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not This is all grass. So in order to I
want a sign.

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» What you don't want is someone just keep
driving right through parking right on

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top.
>> How about a sign that says they can't do

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it at all.
>> Well, that's that's almost like an

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invitation to do it. [laughter]

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» You want to hang out with that guy when
he was young. [laughter]

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» So we could do some kind of like a
landscape chain, you know,

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» landscape chain or something else. Just
something a little more sub substantial

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than the
>> the visual

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» that could be moved around fall down

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» an invitation.
>> Did you speak to my parents? That would

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be an invitation. [laughter]
>> She said not to. Let me try.

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» Uh just remind me uh your classes are
like they start out on a given hour,

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right?
>> Yes. Uh, and how many what's the maximum

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number of kids that you would have
arriving for that class?

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» They're all staggered. So, right now my
teams are between the numbers of I think

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my smallest team has seven on them and
my largest team has 18. So, they

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stagger. So, the team of seven might
arrive at 5, the next team might arrive

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at 5:15 with 12 more kids and then that
team leaves at 5:45. The six o'clock

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team comes in. So, I stagger the
schedule so that everybody's adjusted in

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the parking lot. Um, last year I didn't
have that ability because we started in

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a different building, but this year
knowing that I've been there already a

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year, I know the schedule. So, I have it
staggered so that I know there's enough

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time to drop off, get back in your car,
and leave and it's open up for the next

420
00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:04,240
set of parents coming in.
>> So, is there any thinking about

421
00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:07,840
expanding the class size?
>> Well, teams vary. So, our team's

422
00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:11,360
triyouts are start in May. The most I
can put on a team is 30. That is max

423
00:31:09,679 --> 00:31:14,399
that I could put on a team would be 30.
for this point of this season. We

424
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:18,720
already started our teams. Our teams are
already going. It's very unlikely that

425
00:31:15,919 --> 00:31:22,480
they would increase that number.
People try out for teams by level. So,

426
00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:26,080
we have to have a certain amount of
children come in to want to do all our

427
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:28,640
cheerleading that of a certain level.
Our choreography is already done. So,

428
00:31:28,159 --> 00:31:34,080
no.
>> Okay. My my only thought was, you know,

429
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:38,720
30 cars arriving that is at
>> if I if next season come May, I have a

430
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:41,200
team of 30, I would be sure to make sure
the next team doesn't start till 30

431
00:31:39,919 --> 00:31:44,559
minutes later. So that those kids get
in, the other team comes in, it's a

432
00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:48,480
smaller team. I wouldn't put a team of
30 and a team of 30 together. [cough]

433
00:31:47,381 --> 00:31:51,640
[clears throat]
>> Thank you.

434
00:31:51,760 --> 00:31:56,320
» So I just have a couple questions
regarding the interior of the building.

435
00:31:55,519 --> 00:32:01,919
Mhm.
>> What is separating your space from unit

436
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:05,600
plank space? That dotted line shown on
the plan. What exactly is that?

437
00:32:03,519 --> 00:32:08,960
» The first dotted line like dead center
>> to the wall that's between

438
00:32:07,039 --> 00:32:13,039
» Yep. This one. This Well, I'm telling
this first. This first dotted line going

439
00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:16,720
this way is a concrete wall. So, that is
a concrete wall that has a garage door

440
00:32:14,559 --> 00:32:20,080
and an emergency door dead center of it.
Um, the other wall is not complete yet.

441
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:22,080
This is what we need to work on next.
It's going to be a fire rated sheetrock

442
00:32:21,519 --> 00:32:25,427
wall.
>> Okay. [clears throat]

443
00:32:26,159 --> 00:32:30,480
So neither one of those wall the the
first wall is in

444
00:32:29,039 --> 00:32:34,000
» the first wall is one of the right and
>> it just dead ends in the middle in the

445
00:32:32,080 --> 00:32:37,360
middle of the of the space.
>> Yes. And then it goes into a fire rated

446
00:32:35,679 --> 00:32:41,519
wall. So it's literally a box. So if you
walk into the facility, you walk in,

447
00:32:39,279 --> 00:32:45,360
it's a box.
>> Okay. I'm assuming that concrete wall is

448
00:32:43,279 --> 00:32:49,120
also fire rated obviously, right? It's
concrete block wall. It makes sense that

449
00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:56,360
it's a firewall.
>> Um

450
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:56,360
the next question is a legal one. um

451
00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:05,640
that EDA accessible route that goes
through unit plank space. I I'm assuming

452
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:05,640
that

453
00:33:05,679 --> 00:33:13,600
our attorney would want to see that
agreement and approve it

454
00:33:10,960 --> 00:33:18,440
» to to minimize risk on the town
approving something that may or may not

455
00:33:15,440 --> 00:33:18,440
be

456
00:33:19,279 --> 00:33:24,640
adequate for for to protect the town
from approving something that isn't

457
00:33:23,679 --> 00:33:27,840
adequate.
>> We can make that part of release, I

458
00:33:26,399 --> 00:33:32,960
think, would probably be the best way to
address that. Send a release to it and

459
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:32,960
we can provide a copy.

460
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:42,159
the neighboring tenant part of it.
>> Yeah. Yep. The tenant to your

461
00:33:39,600 --> 00:33:45,200
» Mhm.
>> Yep.

462
00:33:43,519 --> 00:33:48,799
» So, the the town attorney's approval
would be part of your lease.

463
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:52,720
» No, we would we would provide that
language as an amendment to her lease,

464
00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:57,279
which is what the owner which is within
the plan for your terms of to confirm

465
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,679
it's we have the rights.
>> I just I I just feel like

466
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:02,799
» we're not just telling you we have the
rights. I just feel like our attorney

467
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:04,559
should be approving any any agreement
that you put.

468
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:10,240
» Yeah,
>> that's easy enough. Also,

469
00:34:06,399 --> 00:34:14,919
» I'll add that to the resolution as well.
>> I'll add that to the resolution as well.

470
00:34:15,119 --> 00:34:22,839
» That's all I have.
>> Do we have anyone from the public here

471
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:22,839
for this public hearing?

472
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,603
» Hi, Neil. [laughter]

473
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:32,399
Uh, could I have a motion to open the
public hearing?

474
00:34:31,839 --> 00:34:36,399
» So moved.
>> Wait a second. Only one person.

475
00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:38,240
» Gio. Second by Phil.
>> Sure.

476
00:34:36,879 --> 00:34:40,159
» All in favor say I.
>> I.

477
00:34:38,879 --> 00:34:42,639
» Against.
>> Public hearing is open. Neil. The floor

478
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:48,000
is yours.
>> Thank you. Uh, actually I'm speaking on

479
00:34:44,399 --> 00:34:52,839
behalf of the top. So
>> you

480
00:34:49,599 --> 00:34:52,839
off camera.

481
00:34:57,200 --> 00:35:03,599
» Uh, so we had a couple questions. I
think you really covered it pretty much

482
00:35:01,520 --> 00:35:06,960
with the parking. It's kind of you kind
of hit the question if they have 30

483
00:35:05,119 --> 00:35:10,000
people here and then 30 people here. So
how many how many total parking spaces

484
00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:15,359
do you really need if you're going to
have two two classes uh crossing at the

485
00:35:13,200 --> 00:35:19,599
same time? So maybe that you have 30 and
30 have 60 parking spaces. I just have

486
00:35:17,599 --> 00:35:22,720
to you'll I'm sure we take care of that.
The other thing I I heard tonight was

487
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:27,520
that uh there may be parking in the
front of the building in which case I

488
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:30,800
think there's no no light along the side
of the building to walk that uh from the

489
00:35:29,599 --> 00:35:34,320
front of the building to the back of the
building. Uh I know Gio's probably going

490
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:38,320
to hit that. Nobody gets worried about
that lighting. That's right. I'm aware

491
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:42,560
of that. Uh so that's that's another
concern. The other big concern we had or

492
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:47,280
the more significant concern probably is
the total number of people and the total

493
00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:53,599
uh su uh sewer usage or waste water
usage and whether or not the uh the

494
00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:56,000
septic system is uh closed for that. I'm
not really worried about the overall

495
00:35:55,119 --> 00:35:59,599
we're not really worried about the
overall water usage. It's still going to

496
00:35:57,359 --> 00:36:03,760
be very minimal compared to a house. Uh
however the septic system may not have

497
00:36:00,960 --> 00:36:07,599
been designed for that. Uh and then the
last thing is just uh some having some

498
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:10,880
kind of marking for a fire lane around
the building. Uh there's going to be a

499
00:36:09,599 --> 00:36:15,839
lot of people parking and traveling
through there. Uh I don't know if have a

500
00:36:13,599 --> 00:36:19,040
painted on on the top on the ground or
not, but there needs to be a way for

501
00:36:17,839 --> 00:36:24,400
emergency vehicles to get around the
entire building if it was ever needed.

502
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:26,560
So just that would be helpful.
>> All right. Thank you.

503
00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:31,599
» Next,
>> Ross. Was the septic system evaluated

504
00:36:30,079 --> 00:36:36,720
between the two uh uses?
>> Correct. Yep. With it in full use, we

505
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:40,000
added 300 gallons to the system to check
the system and it was operating

506
00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:45,599
properly.
>> Thank you. Anyone else from the public,

507
00:36:45,119 --> 00:36:51,040
» Frank?
>> Yeah, just uh I appreciate the the

508
00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:55,440
discussion on ADA compliance. Um and
Ross mentioned architect. So, uh just to

509
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:59,920
backtrack a little bit, you know, Uni
Plank went into this building. It used

510
00:36:57,520 --> 00:37:04,960
to be the uh the school place European
Outdoors uh without a permit through the

511
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:08,960
building department attention. Uh they
got their approved site plan. They

512
00:37:06,720 --> 00:37:12,160
applied for a permit but uh everything
kind of got [clears throat]

513
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:18,160
the CDA [snorts] extreme came. I
couldn't finalize the review for the

514
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:25,119
permit for the Munich plank because it
got a little complicated with the mixes

515
00:37:20,079 --> 00:37:28,000
firewall ADA things like that. So
they they are aware they need to apply

516
00:37:26,720 --> 00:37:32,640
for a permit. They don't even have an
application yet for the CDA. So an

517
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:35,680
application comes in. I don't know if
they're going to use the same people as

518
00:37:33,760 --> 00:37:39,920
UniFlank for us. Uh if you could
>> Unifi is the one that's going to handle

519
00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:43,680
» hand the application and the permits and
all that. That's this was my job.

520
00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:46,000
» Yeah. Okay. Good. [laughter]
>> That's your job.

521
00:37:44,240 --> 00:37:49,440
» I'm doing my job. He has to do his job
now and get this building the way it's

522
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:52,720
supposed to be. I I could uh you know um
put a phone call in just to just to

523
00:37:51,119 --> 00:37:55,040
remind everybody they're expecting it.
>> Yes. Okay. So

524
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:57,760
» they asked me what the next step was and
I said that they're with you.

525
00:37:56,320 --> 00:38:01,119
» Yeah. So they should they should start
submitting uh you know drawings for the

526
00:37:59,839 --> 00:38:04,560
inside. How are we going to get it to
comply specifically the ADA concerns?

527
00:38:03,280 --> 00:38:07,440
» I would like to be kept in the loop if
you don't mind just because I want to

528
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,920
know what's happening. But
>> yes, you should speak to the owner and

529
00:38:09,119 --> 00:38:11,040
their design team.
>> Yes.

530
00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:15,839
» Okay.
>> And um a lot of these questions will be

531
00:38:13,359 --> 00:38:21,119
answered. Right. It's uh guidelines like
the ICC 117.1 that's standards for

532
00:38:19,280 --> 00:38:26,240
accessibility and usable buildings and
facilities. All that stuff is we talked

533
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:30,560
about is in that guideline. Uh chapter
11 I believe of the building code is

534
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:34,400
talks about accessibility. Uh so the
plans have to reflect all that. All the

535
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:38,160
applicable sections permit will
eventually be issued. Certificate of

536
00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:43,760
occupancy will eventually be issued and
this this is like standard but we we got

537
00:38:40,160 --> 00:38:47,599
to take it one step at a time.
That's

538
00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:50,480
» Can you um describe what's the inside of
the unit?

539
00:38:48,800 --> 00:38:55,119
» I I can't answer that. I have not been
in that building in quite some time. So,

540
00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:58,880
I don't know what's going on in there.
It's like Ross said, you know, so the

541
00:38:57,440 --> 00:39:02,640
design team will have to put it on
paper, issue the permit, we'll do the

542
00:39:01,040 --> 00:39:07,920
inspections accordingly.
>> Yeah. All right. Yeah.

543
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:12,880
Yeah. Uh, obviously you've got a lot of
work to do with Frank and

544
00:39:10,960 --> 00:39:17,359
» I I I didn't mean to suggest that that
what we're talking about should be the

545
00:39:14,240 --> 00:39:21,599
end of it. Like if if this route is
through an industrial facility,

546
00:39:19,920 --> 00:39:23,920
» like that probably doesn't work for
building.

547
00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:27,440
» There's codes for that. Yes.
>> But we need that. We knew that Frank has

548
00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:30,320
to come in and that line I've also made
him very aware that Frank still has to

549
00:39:28,720 --> 00:39:36,240
come in and make the final approvals on
building itself.

550
00:39:32,160 --> 00:39:42,320
» What could be the maximum number of
uh cage, coach chiefs, administrative

551
00:39:39,680 --> 00:39:46,640
people on site at any one time
>> on my side only.

552
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:47,920
» And your project
>> 50

553
00:39:47,599 --> 00:39:50,640
» 50
>> that's what we've calculated for the

554
00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:53,440
season. So I did my teams I added my
teams together and I had my coaches

555
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:56,839
together and we're up to max it's
technically 40

556
00:39:59,119 --> 00:40:05,200
Neil mentioned that um some of the
parking is going to be in the front of

557
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:10,560
the building. Um you guys think about
possibly putting a park walkway to the

558
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:13,599
back to your entrance from the front.
>> So, I did not because we don't have them

559
00:40:12,320 --> 00:40:16,079
walk I would don't want them walking
from the back to the front. If we don't

560
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:19,520
need them to have them walking from the
back to the front if we were to expand

561
00:40:17,839 --> 00:40:23,440
and that parking lot turns into an
actual drop off that they have to walk

562
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:26,240
from the back to the front, then yes, I
will talk to the landlord about putting

563
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:30,560
in a walkway. But at this point in time,
the parking in the back really is

564
00:40:27,680 --> 00:40:33,440
sufficient enough. It's never It's full,
yes, but it's sufficient enough that

565
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:36,160
everybody gets a parking spot. They can
do what they have to do. do they bring

566
00:40:34,480 --> 00:40:40,800
their kids and they come out. It still
works. Now, say we grow, right? That's

567
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:45,040
the point of a business. Hopefully, we
do grow and if that turns into we're no

568
00:40:43,359 --> 00:40:48,400
longer using it as an overflow parking
and just a drop off, then that would be

569
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:51,440
a discussion. And if you want to add
that somewhere that if we do grow and we

570
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:53,839
still have people walking that we add
that in, I will speak to him about doing

571
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:57,440
that.
>> There probably going to be employees

572
00:40:55,200 --> 00:41:00,640
that walk them, right?
>> No, they park. We don't have many

573
00:40:58,720 --> 00:41:04,319
employees. There's eight of us total,
>> right? But

574
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,839
do the employees park in the Is there a
lot in the back?

575
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,839
» Yeah, they park in the back of the
>> lot.

576
00:41:12,319 --> 00:41:18,040
I would like to see some kind of walk.
They're not walking.

577
00:41:22,319 --> 00:41:25,640
Other comments.

578
00:41:27,359 --> 00:41:32,560
Anyone else from the public wish to
speak?

579
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:38,079
Not. Can I have a motion then to close
the public hearing?

580
00:41:35,599 --> 00:41:42,680
» Second by second
bill. All in favor say I.

581
00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:45,960
» Hearing is

582
00:41:47,920 --> 00:41:50,920
next.

583
00:41:51,599 --> 00:42:00,839
» Yes. Based on the comments today, we can
revise the resolution and circulate

584
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:06,800
Can Can we go through it tonight?
Approve it with those

585
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:08,640
» I would suggest you do that so the
opportunity to come back.

586
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:13,520
» Right. Yes.
>> And then we'll just add those additional

587
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:16,800
comments that were spoken on tonight as
additional specific details.

588
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:21,240
» Correct.
>> So [clears throat] if you could just go

589
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,240
through that with us

590
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:27,379
the draft as it is now.
>> Yes, please. [cough and clears throat]

591
00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:38,400
If I may
first line before you go beyond that,

592
00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:45,760
it should apply to CDA training center
on behalf of 2596

593
00:42:42,319 --> 00:42:49,160
and their respective success successes
in science.

594
00:42:55,489 --> 00:42:57,509
» [snorts]

595
00:42:59,440 --> 00:43:05,920
» you in the banner. Was it the banner or
the first line of the narrative?

596
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:10,119
» That's on the application. So, sorry.
Okay. The narrative. Okay.

597
00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:32,000
Um, Mr. Chairman, what would you like me
to do to read the just to go through

598
00:43:30,720 --> 00:43:35,359
what I'm finding
>> the specific conditions?

599
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:39,520
» Yeah, we we have to uh Well, obviously
the public hearing is closed that that

600
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:42,520
bold disappears, but the specific
conditions.

601
00:43:45,200 --> 00:43:53,839
Okay, specific conditions.
Number one, Prior to signing of the

602
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:58,560
plans, the applicant shall a comply with
the memorandum of the town engineer

603
00:43:55,599 --> 00:44:05,920
dated July 10th, 2026 to the
satisfaction of the town engineer.

604
00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:10,720
B. Revise the hours of operations listed
on the plan to comply with the narrative

605
00:44:08,480 --> 00:44:14,800
report.
C. Revise the plan to include

606
00:44:12,880 --> 00:44:20,160
information on the proposed
modifications to the existing monument

607
00:44:17,599 --> 00:44:20,160
sign.

608
00:44:20,880 --> 00:44:29,280
D is the one we spoke about as far as a
little bit more permanent monies to

609
00:44:26,720 --> 00:44:37,680
prevent uh access if there were access
on the subject. Is that fold clean?

610
00:44:34,800 --> 00:44:43,200
» Yep. Yes.
Uh, two, prior to issuance of a

611
00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:49,280
certificate of occupancy, the applicant
shall a verify with the building

612
00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:53,280
inspector that the ADA accessible route
complies with the New York State

613
00:44:50,720 --> 00:44:58,400
existing building code. If it is
determined by the building inspector

614
00:44:55,839 --> 00:45:04,319
that a ramp or other feature is required
for ADA access, these features shall be

615
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:10,720
installed prior to issuance of the
certificate by concealment.

616
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:16,240
B. Install striping and directional
signage associated with the student drop

617
00:45:13,599 --> 00:45:22,880
off and parking to the satisfaction of
the building inspector.

618
00:45:19,359 --> 00:45:29,920
C. Install striping and signage.
Example, no parking any time

619
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:36,720
along one, the driveway accessing the
rear parking lot and two, the paved

620
00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:43,520
drive along the rear of the site to the
satisfaction of the building inspector.

621
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:47,680
D, remove the existing storage container
located adjacent to the rear parking

622
00:45:45,599 --> 00:45:52,480
area.
E. Verify the building inspector that

623
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:57,520
the restroom facilities associated with
the proposed recreational business

624
00:45:55,119 --> 00:46:03,040
comply with the New York State existing
building code.

625
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:07,839
F. Verify with the building inspector
that the existing lighting complies with

626
00:46:05,040 --> 00:46:13,200
the town code.
G. Submit to the building department

627
00:46:10,720 --> 00:46:20,599
confirmation of approval from the New
York State Department of Health for

628
00:46:15,920 --> 00:46:20,599
proposed uses of public water supply.

629
00:46:21,119 --> 00:46:24,599
» You were getting

630
00:46:27,599 --> 00:46:32,000
» Yeah, I had suggested that Mr. Ch. So,
this plan actually shows the

631
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:35,359
landscaping. It's consistent with the
plan that was approved by Unifi, but

632
00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:38,880
last time I checked the site, the
landscaping wasn't in. So, I didn't know

633
00:46:37,200 --> 00:46:42,400
if this board wanted to make this a
condition of this action. Uh, just to

634
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:47,359
ensure that that landscaping gets in
because I was unaware until that plan

635
00:46:45,520 --> 00:46:50,880
was.
>> So, the landscape that's required to put

636
00:46:49,359 --> 00:46:52,160
that back on your land, correct?
>> That's back on my

637
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:56,240
» Yeah.
>> So, if you could tell him that was on

638
00:46:53,280 --> 00:47:00,319
his original plan and that'd be great.
>> Yeah. He knows it's on his original plan

639
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:03,440
and you can just reference. No, I don't
even think you need to reference it. I

640
00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:06,560
think we can remove it as long okay with
that and then the landscape wouldn't be

641
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:11,280
under the last year.
>> Okay, that works.

642
00:47:09,520 --> 00:47:16,400
» Did we have one?
>> Gio and I both had similar sort of legal

643
00:47:14,160 --> 00:47:22,400
requests which was one that the
applicant has to return to the board if

644
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:29,040
they lose access to the front ADA
access. Uh and I think Gio suggested

645
00:47:25,359 --> 00:47:34,400
that the additions the amendments to the
lease will be sent to the town.

646
00:47:32,319 --> 00:47:37,839
» So can we do that after Frank approves
it? So once Frank the Frank says no then

647
00:47:36,400 --> 00:47:42,079
that's a mute point. So once Frank
approves it then I will amend the lease

648
00:47:39,359 --> 00:47:46,480
and send that in. Does that sound okay?
>> Prior to CO.

649
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:50,319
» Yes. Prior to the CO.
>> Yes. provide a copy

650
00:47:48,319 --> 00:47:53,119
» because me to amend the me amending the
lease and then he doesn't approve it

651
00:47:51,520 --> 00:47:57,359
makes no sense. If he says I need to do
something else, then the lander is going

652
00:47:54,160 --> 00:48:00,560
to have to do something else.
>> I think that I think that would come to

653
00:47:58,720 --> 00:48:04,000
light upon the issuance of a permit,
right? So the design team, the architect

654
00:48:02,079 --> 00:48:07,119
has to propose what's going what's to be
built. I have to approve it.

655
00:48:05,440 --> 00:48:10,548
» So if you approve it and you say it's
okay, then I'll put it in amendment that

656
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:15,400
if we ever lose access to it because the
[snorts] tenant changes it for whatever

657
00:48:11,760 --> 00:48:15,400
reason that we will

658
00:48:17,098 --> 00:48:20,480
» [clears throat]
>> Did we miss any conditions that we

659
00:48:20,079 --> 00:48:29,359
spoke?
>> I think we had talked about a detailed

660
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:34,400
dismissal procedure to be written should
be satisfactory to council and to

661
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:39,440
buildings.
I missed part

662
00:48:35,520 --> 00:48:44,319
» a detailed dismissal procedure
>> satisfactory to council or to building

663
00:48:42,720 --> 00:48:48,720
inspector
and

664
00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:52,720
I think we also said that
>> be no competition

665
00:48:49,760 --> 00:48:54,480
» there was a staggered uh and supervised
>> right

666
00:48:53,200 --> 00:49:01,760
» right
>> and we we did say that there there would

667
00:48:58,319 --> 00:49:05,040
be practices but no competitions
>> at the facility

668
00:49:03,440 --> 00:49:09,920
» just to go back when you talked about
the detailed dismissal procedure. Is

669
00:49:07,680 --> 00:49:14,680
that dismissal
arrival procedure?

670
00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,680
» SL.

671
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:20,160
It's a safety issue.
>> Absolutely.

672
00:49:18,079 --> 00:49:24,559
» So the dismissal is really falling in in
line with like means of egress which the

673
00:49:22,319 --> 00:49:28,559
architect will show the egress path.
>> Well, it's it's that but also that

674
00:49:26,400 --> 00:49:31,280
there's supervision when they actually
leave the facility on the way to the

675
00:49:30,559 --> 00:49:35,680
vehicles.
>> So, okay. So maybe a submission of of

676
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,920
policy and procedures on that.
>> I'm just going to expand on the

677
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:40,160
narrative. I did a what we did with the
little ones. I'll just do what we do

678
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:43,520
with the older ones. [laughter]
>> Just [clears throat] a narrative of of

679
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:47,520
some type to
>> easy.

680
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:51,040
» So I just want to make sure of time. So
that requirement since it includes the

681
00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:56,800
architect, I would recommend it be
condition. Is that acceptable? This

682
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:59,119
dismissal plan be prior to CO?
>> Yeah, that would make sense.

683
00:49:57,839 --> 00:50:02,400
» Who am I submitting it to? Who would
like to receive that? I would submit

684
00:50:01,359 --> 00:50:04,319
everything to the building department.
Okay.

685
00:50:02,720 --> 00:50:09,200
» And then distribute it to whoever needs
to be.

686
00:50:05,599 --> 00:50:13,200
» All right. Thank you.
>> Any other issues

687
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:20,559
regarding the resolution?
>> We want to put a cap or maximum cap of

688
00:50:17,200 --> 00:50:23,880
attendees, participants,
uh staff,

689
00:50:24,079 --> 00:50:29,680
yeah, whatever the numbers.
>> So, so again, that would be uh as part

690
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:32,640
of the uh code, right? number of
occupants.

691
00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:36,160
» The architect will determine the size of
the space. Okay.

692
00:50:33,680 --> 00:50:39,359
» The use and uh that'll determine the
number of occupants.

693
00:50:37,280 --> 00:50:40,960
» It's the space and also the facilities,
water and sewage.

694
00:50:40,319 --> 00:50:46,000
» Water and sewage
>> towards being able to meet that number.

695
00:50:43,839 --> 00:50:50,640
» Okay.
>> Any other concerns?

696
00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:54,240
No. If not, then could I have a motion
to approve the resolution of conditional

697
00:50:52,400 --> 00:51:01,520
approval of rent site plan expression
permit for CBA extreme training center

698
00:50:57,200 --> 00:51:06,559
otherwise known as two 2596
go LLC as modified this evening.

699
00:51:05,200 --> 00:51:11,200
» I'll make the motion.
>> Marty second by seconded.

700
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:14,400
» G all in favor say I.
>> I against.

701
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,800
» Thank you.
>> Thank you so much.

702
00:51:15,359 --> 00:51:19,200
» Thank you. Have a good night.
>> You too.

703
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,359
Good luck.
>> Thank you.

704
00:51:40,240 --> 00:51:47,359
Next item on the agenda is a von Pence
subdivision 4-1-18.

705
00:51:45,839 --> 00:51:51,599
an application for small-scale
subdivision and site plan approval

706
00:51:49,119 --> 00:51:56,960
consisting of two residential lots on
7.4 plus or minus acres along Hasbrook

707
00:51:54,240 --> 00:52:04,359
Road. Are you zoned with AQ6 and Scenic
Road quarter overlays? And again, we're

708
00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:04,359
here tonight for a public hearing.

709
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:10,880
» Welcome.
>> Good evening. [clears throat] I'm uh Jim

710
00:52:08,240 --> 00:52:15,680
Dylan and I'm are representing the Von
Pence subdivision.

711
00:52:13,119 --> 00:52:22,079
uh for the public's uh that's here. It
is a [clears throat] 7.4 acre parcel.

712
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:26,079
We're proposing to do a smallcale
development.

713
00:52:23,839 --> 00:52:32,160
Uh there's one existing home on lot
number one which is a single family

714
00:52:29,359 --> 00:52:39,280
residential home and we're proposing to
do a new lot which is two little over

715
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:44,160
two acres which is lot number two
um which would have a single family

716
00:52:41,359 --> 00:52:48,800
home. Uh we're proposing to put a new
well and septic in. We've done uh well

717
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:54,559
tests
according to the small scale development

718
00:52:51,440 --> 00:53:00,559
where being in the AQ6
we're not supplying the six acres. We're

719
00:52:57,359 --> 00:53:04,800
supplying two acres which is required
which we're allowed to do if we do well

720
00:53:02,319 --> 00:53:10,960
testing. Uh we're going to have a
driveway out onto uh Asvic Road. Uh

721
00:53:08,640 --> 00:53:13,760
we're going to be dedicating property
along the entire roadway.

722
00:53:12,720 --> 00:53:19,920
» Offering for dedication
>> offer offer offering for dedication. Uh

723
00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:25,359
a 25 ft strip from the center line of
the road. Um and that's basically the

724
00:53:24,079 --> 00:53:30,720
application. It's very simple
application. It's a subdivision to

725
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:35,359
create one more new building.
>> The uh driveway access been reviewed by

726
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:40,240
the town.
They they they've given them a permit to

727
00:53:37,520 --> 00:53:44,400
put the driveway in already. Sean has
some questions [snorts] that we're going

728
00:53:41,280 --> 00:53:49,200
to address. I think that's in the uh
which we're going to be able to address.

729
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:54,800
The driveway is actually been put in.
They had to drill the well access

730
00:53:52,319 --> 00:53:58,800
» and uh
that's all set.

731
00:53:58,079 --> 00:54:02,319
» Sure.
>> So, Mr. Chairman, this is an application

732
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:07,680
for subdivision as well as site plan
because uh the application was in

733
00:54:04,640 --> 00:54:13,599
corridor. Uh you had reviewed this at
your um August 6 meeting. At that time

734
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:16,599
you adopted part two
scheduations

735
00:54:17,680 --> 00:54:25,640
from Frank relative to the storage uh
building and the driveway setbacking

736
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:33,040
issues. Um so again this is listed this
evening for public hearing. However

737
00:54:31,359 --> 00:54:37,800
since it's a subdivision [clears throat]
if you need to act on the negative

738
00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:37,800
declaration

739
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:50,839
everyone's got the for them
had an opportunity to look at it. Any

740
00:54:47,839 --> 00:54:50,839
comments?

741
00:54:58,480 --> 00:55:01,520
See going
>> nothing.

742
00:55:00,720 --> 00:55:04,400
» Bill,
>> nothing.

743
00:55:03,839 --> 00:55:10,079
» No comments.
>> No comments. Okay. Okay. I have a motion

744
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:12,079
and to approve the NE deck as prepared.
>> So moved.

745
00:55:10,960 --> 00:55:15,440
» Gio second by
>> second.

746
00:55:13,599 --> 00:55:20,280
» Bill. All in favor say I.
>> I.

747
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:20,280
» Okay.

748
00:55:24,720 --> 00:55:31,000
Do we have anyone from the public here
for this application?

749
00:55:28,000 --> 00:55:31,000
» Neil

750
00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:37,280
pass. [laughter]
>> Thank you.

751
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:42,160
» Nobody from the public. Okay. Well, I'll
open up the public hearing in any event.

752
00:55:40,000 --> 00:55:46,880
Can I have a motion?
>> Eric. Second by

753
00:55:44,720 --> 00:55:51,599
» Seconded.
>> Who is that?

754
00:55:49,599 --> 00:55:53,280
» Okay. Second by Marty. [snorts]
All in favor say I.

755
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:56,960
» I.
>> I.

756
00:55:53,680 --> 00:56:00,760
» Opposed. Public hearing is open. Any
comments from the board?

757
00:56:03,040 --> 00:56:09,520
» No.
>> Last chance for the public.

758
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:14,520
I have a motion then to close the public
hearing.

759
00:56:11,359 --> 00:56:14,520
So move.

760
00:56:14,640 --> 00:56:20,839
» Second by Bill. All in favor say I. I.

761
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:31,160
Public hearing is closed. We have a
draft resolution before us.

762
00:56:26,960 --> 00:56:31,160
We should go through that as well.

763
00:56:34,079 --> 00:56:41,680
You're up.
>> Okay. Any draft resolution before you?

764
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:45,200
The specific conditions.
>> Before we get to the specific

765
00:56:42,799 --> 00:56:49,799
conditions, I just had one item I wanted
to add to it on the identification

766
00:56:46,799 --> 00:56:49,799
plans.

767
00:56:50,960 --> 00:56:57,119
The short form EAF part two wasn't
listed.

768
00:56:56,519 --> 00:57:02,280
[snorts]
It was dated July 31st of this year.

769
00:57:05,839 --> 00:57:12,520
July 31st
this year.

770
00:57:08,720 --> 00:57:12,520
» Yes. July 31st.

771
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:17,280
» Question. The dedication of the 25 foot
long road.

772
00:57:16,240 --> 00:57:22,880
» Yes.
What made you do that? Why do you build?

773
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:27,599
» Well, it's a Yeah, standard procedure.
Otherwise, we'd own out into the middle

774
00:57:24,559 --> 00:57:32,559
of the road. Uh
you you actually the town automatically

775
00:57:29,920 --> 00:57:36,160
already has not a fee taken, but they
have a right away to use it anyway. Uh

776
00:57:35,200 --> 00:57:41,720
by state law,
>> because you right,

777
00:57:37,839 --> 00:57:41,720
» right? We own that.

778
00:57:42,079 --> 00:57:51,359
So instead of having it right away, you
have

779
00:57:45,760 --> 00:57:57,839
to do that same kind of successes and
after the

780
00:57:53,760 --> 00:58:01,720
both tells us and their successes
and after the

781
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,280
Any

782
00:58:16,400 --> 00:58:20,119
findings, Mr. Chairman?

783
00:58:22,400 --> 00:58:30,160
» Findings. Planning board has determined
that approval of this minor subdivision

784
00:58:27,040 --> 00:58:33,520
and site plan will protect and promote
public health, safety, comfort,

785
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:36,720
convenience.
>> Oh, you don't have to read that part.

786
00:58:34,559 --> 00:58:39,720
That's what we're just just the bold.
The

787
00:58:40,240 --> 00:58:47,200
the planning board further finds in
accordance with the requirements for the

788
00:58:44,319 --> 00:58:53,119
scenic road corridor overlay district
that this project will not result in the

789
00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:58,079
degragation of scenic character. It will
aesthetically will be aesthetically

790
00:58:55,599 --> 00:59:03,280
compatible with its surroundings. It
will minimize the removal of native

791
00:59:00,240 --> 00:59:08,400
vegetation except where such removal may
be necessary to open up scenic views and

792
00:59:06,559 --> 00:59:13,119
panoramas
and will locate and cluster buildings

793
00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:18,640
and other structures in a manner that
minimizes their visibility from the road

794
00:59:16,319 --> 00:59:22,480
to the extent practical. that that
paragraph when we say that we're uh

795
00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:26,880
accepting a removal maybe yesterday for
scenic views and backgrounds should we

796
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:30,559
also include in there to maintain sight
distances in the driveway is that

797
00:59:28,640 --> 00:59:35,880
something
>> I think it would be appropriate because

798
00:59:32,319 --> 00:59:35,880
in this instance yeah

799
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:39,160
» okay

800
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:59,280
The planning board further finds that
the project presents a proper case for

801
00:59:55,920 --> 01:00:04,319
requiring a park or parks suitably
located for playgrounds or other

802
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:09,599
recreational purposes. But suitable
suitable parks for rec recreation areas

803
01:00:07,599 --> 01:00:15,440
of adequate size to meet this
requirement cannot be properly located

804
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:21,440
on the site requiring a [snorts] payment
of a parkland fee to be determined by

805
01:00:18,480 --> 01:00:24,440
the town board in li of providing such
parkland.

806
01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:29,720
Pursuant to code section 83-9B,

807
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:37,599
the planning board has waved the
requirement to plant street trees along

808
01:00:34,319 --> 01:00:44,079
New York State Route 207.
Such trees are unnecessary as the area

809
01:00:41,119 --> 01:00:47,480
is wooded and the existing vegetation is
to be retained.

810
01:00:52,322 --> 01:00:54,342
» [snorts]

811
01:01:08,400 --> 01:01:13,720
» Welcome to specific conditions, please.

812
01:01:16,640 --> 01:01:25,520
Number one, prior to signing of the plat
by the chairman, the applicant shall a

813
01:01:23,839 --> 01:01:31,440
revise the plans to include a
calculation of the impervious surface

814
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:36,559
coverage, noting the code requires
imperous surface coverage to be

815
01:01:33,520 --> 01:01:44,319
calculated after wetlands and flood
planes are deducted from the gross area.

816
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:49,520
Pursuant to code section 8322B
2Q

817
01:01:47,280 --> 01:01:55,359
B. Revise the plat in accordance with
the July 31st,

818
01:01:51,680 --> 01:02:01,040
2026 memorandum of the town engineer to
the satisfaction of the town engineer.

819
01:01:58,960 --> 01:02:05,839
C. provide confirmation from the
building inspector that the large

820
01:02:03,599 --> 01:02:13,119
structure adjacent to the southerntherly
lot line of lot number one labeled

821
01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:18,400
storage building is not being used for
residential purposes.

822
01:02:15,680 --> 01:02:24,000
Before any residential occupancy of the
building, the applicant must return to

823
01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:29,559
the town for additional approvals. Was
>> that town planning board?

824
01:02:25,440 --> 01:02:29,559
» Yeah. to the town who

825
01:02:30,319 --> 01:02:38,760
should be returned to the town
board for its consideration

826
01:02:35,760 --> 01:02:38,760
of

827
01:02:45,839 --> 01:02:52,760
D. Confirm to the satisfaction of the
town engineer that

828
01:02:52,880 --> 01:03:00,240
ash to
stopping site distance and intersection

829
01:02:57,040 --> 01:03:06,400
site distance requirements are satisfied
in both east and west directions and

830
01:03:03,599 --> 01:03:12,319
revised the plan showing the clearance
of existing vegetation along the site

831
01:03:09,119 --> 01:03:16,880
line to the west
prior to the issuance of a certificate

832
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:23,400
of occupancy. The applicant shall
confirm the site distances after

833
01:03:19,520 --> 01:03:23,400
vegetation clearing.

834
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:35,599
E. Provide an offer of dedication
for the 0.62 acre parcel along the

835
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:42,160
southerntherly side of Hazbrook Road to
the town for highway purposes and

836
01:03:38,720 --> 01:03:49,319
revised the plat to show the same. Such
dedication documents shall be in a form

837
01:03:45,039 --> 01:03:49,319
acceptable to the town attorney.

838
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:58,000
Two, could I'm sorry, could I raise a
question?

839
01:03:53,440 --> 01:04:03,280
» Sure. Uh some of these requirements
that we're talking about are going to be

840
01:04:00,880 --> 01:04:06,280
after the planning of the chairman's
housing

841
01:04:08,799 --> 01:04:16,000
like prior to the issuance of a
certificate of occupy the applicant

842
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:21,520
shall confirm site distance and
vegetation clearing.

843
01:04:18,319 --> 01:04:28,799
We're not going to do any of that until
we get an approved site plan

844
01:04:26,079 --> 01:04:32,720
and we file a map and we do do all the
things. That's something when we start

845
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:35,839
construction that we'll do.
>> We're not going to clear that first.

846
01:04:35,119 --> 01:04:39,920
» That's why it says
>> that's why I'm CO.

847
01:04:38,720 --> 01:04:43,200
» That's a CO
>> certificate of occupancy. So that's

848
01:04:42,000 --> 01:04:46,799
after everything's done. The house is
built.

849
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:49,039
» Well, this is listed as before you sign
the back. Yes,

850
01:04:47,599 --> 01:04:52,319
» I thought I thought start
>> it is but it saves having another

851
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:56,079
condition. It's just it's like a
compound condition. You have one part to

852
01:04:54,000 --> 01:04:59,119
do before getting that sign and then you
have to do the second part before

853
01:04:57,119 --> 01:05:04,240
getting
>> okay but it's just listed as before

854
01:05:01,599 --> 01:05:08,079
signing the first statement is
>> would you feel more comfortable we added

855
01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:12,079
another condition?
>> No, I just maybe put it in under general

856
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:15,280
conditions.
>> No, okay.

857
01:05:13,119 --> 01:05:17,599
» It's not a general condition for this
application.

858
01:05:16,240 --> 01:05:21,359
» Okay.
We can add it as a different condition

859
01:05:19,280 --> 01:05:27,119
if it causes some confusion.
>> I I I know we have to do it, but it

860
01:05:24,079 --> 01:05:34,240
seems like it's we it seems like we have
to do it before we sign

861
01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:38,440
like to just add it later, [cough]
you know, break it apart.

862
01:05:43,359 --> 01:05:47,000
» Putting that 17

863
01:05:56,640 --> 01:06:05,880
going back to
the app

864
01:06:00,960 --> 01:06:05,880
form is acceptable attorney.

865
01:06:09,359 --> 01:06:17,260
I look back at some past that last three
or four times. Okay.

866
01:06:15,240 --> 01:06:17,260
» [clears throat]

867
01:06:18,400 --> 01:06:24,880
» Okay. [snorts] Number two, prior to
issuance of a building permit, the

868
01:06:23,119 --> 01:06:29,680
applicant shall demonstrate to the
satisfaction of the building inspector

869
01:06:27,440 --> 01:06:37,359
that the plan will comply with
landscaping, architecture, and fencing

870
01:06:32,079 --> 01:06:43,920
requirements of code sections 97-29
GH and I.

871
01:06:41,520 --> 01:06:50,319
Three, prior to the issuance of a
certificate of occupancy, the applicant

872
01:06:46,480 --> 01:06:57,680
shall chlorinate the lot number two
water supply well and provide a negative

873
01:06:53,680 --> 01:07:01,079
total colifform laboratory test to the
building department.

874
01:07:01,440 --> 01:07:10,480
Four, prior to any site disturbance, the
limits of clearing and disturbance shall

875
01:07:08,000 --> 01:07:17,760
be shown on the plan and shall be
identified in the field with appropriate

876
01:07:13,200 --> 01:07:22,319
signage, flagging, and/or fencing that
is posted conspicuously on the site to

877
01:07:20,880 --> 01:07:25,319
the satisfaction of the building
inspector.

878
01:07:25,839 --> 01:07:34,160
Five, prior to the issuance of a
building permit, the shed labeled shed

879
01:07:32,000 --> 01:07:40,000
to be relocated
shall be relocated so that it is not

880
01:07:37,200 --> 01:07:46,119
within the required 30foot front yard
setback pursuant to code section 974AF.

881
01:07:47,680 --> 01:07:58,480
Six, the installation of any on-site
sewage disposal system shall be observed

882
01:07:55,520 --> 01:08:04,319
during construction by the town engineer
if requested by the building inspector

883
01:08:02,160 --> 01:08:08,960
and then there will be a new sentence
seven

884
01:08:07,119 --> 01:08:12,799
park.
>> Is there anything that [cough]

885
01:08:11,177 --> 01:08:18,239
[clears throat] you need to add?
>> No, it's pretty thorough. Thank you,

886
01:08:15,599 --> 01:08:23,920
» Mr. [snorts] Chairman. Any other
concerns from the board?

887
01:08:21,279 --> 01:08:27,920
If not, then could I have a motion to
approve the resolution of conditional

888
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:34,480
preliminary and final approval minor
subdivision and site plan for Rover and

889
01:08:30,400 --> 01:08:37,640
Theresa Von Pence, etc. Uh, as modified
this even

890
01:08:38,719 --> 01:08:43,359
» bill second by Phil.
All in favor say I.

891
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:46,719
» I.
>> Against.

892
01:08:45,759 --> 01:08:51,319
» Okay.
Thank you very much.

893
01:08:47,839 --> 01:08:51,319
» Have a good night.

894
01:09:11,120 --> 01:09:19,719
Next item on the agenda
is Marte Holdings Group LLC.

895
01:09:26,799 --> 01:09:29,799
Yeah,

896
01:09:33,199 --> 01:09:40,239
» you look at the wrong agenda.
I'm sorry. [laughter]

897
01:09:38,239 --> 01:09:43,588
» Been a long night. Okay,
>> then it's going to get long. [laughter]

898
01:09:44,319 --> 01:09:49,440
» Plans, Jim.
>> Not anymore.

899
01:09:47,600 --> 01:09:54,640
» Next one on the agenda is IWS
transportation. Ocean Transport Station

900
01:09:51,359 --> 01:09:59,199
upgrades 12-1-20,
21.21,

901
01:09:56,239 --> 01:10:03,679
and 21.22.
Application for a site plan and special

902
01:10:01,199 --> 01:10:08,960
permit for modifications to an existing
solid waste management facility on 7.3

903
01:10:06,239 --> 01:10:16,960
plus or minus acres along Hartley Road
in Izzone and AQ6 overlay. And we're

904
01:10:12,880 --> 01:10:21,440
here tonight again for public hearing.
First off, do we have anyone here for

905
01:10:19,440 --> 01:10:26,800
this public hearing?
I see a couple hands up. Very good.

906
01:10:23,440 --> 01:10:29,679
Okay. So, if you could just give uh a
brief description of what's

907
01:10:29,120 --> 01:10:35,920
» Yes.
>> being proposed. Yes.

908
01:10:31,760 --> 01:10:42,159
» Yep. So, we're here to get reapproval um
for a site plan to build a 9,345

909
01:10:40,239 --> 01:10:50,719
square foot addition to the existing
transfer station building, a 430 foot um

910
01:10:47,040 --> 01:10:56,560
mechanical room, a 65,000galon water
storage tank. Um,

911
01:10:53,920 --> 01:11:02,159
in in support of the uh existing
transfer station operations, um, we

912
01:10:59,840 --> 01:11:10,000
recently received an ADB solid waste
permit from the town board uh to accept

913
01:11:04,880 --> 01:11:12,719
up to 670 tons of MSW and CND. We're
currently

914
01:11:11,040 --> 01:11:17,040
» no longer the recyclables. Correct.
>> No longer recyclables. Correct. Yes. And

915
01:11:14,880 --> 01:11:22,800
we're before we're working with the DE
New York State DEEC with that uh permit

916
01:11:20,560 --> 01:11:26,960
renewal/modification.
Um and that's that's basically where

917
01:11:25,440 --> 01:11:32,960
we're at. Um they didn't have any
comments. The DEC did not have any

918
01:11:28,719 --> 01:11:36,880
comments on our proposed um site plan
and and modifications. Uh little

919
01:11:35,199 --> 01:11:42,640
technical details on the engineering
report and um facility manual, just

920
01:11:40,239 --> 01:11:47,840
verbiage, whatnot. So
>> yeah. Thank you.

921
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:54,040
And and what you see here is what was
approved back in February of 2024.

922
01:11:57,679 --> 01:12:03,840
» We
we we received approval site plan

923
01:12:02,320 --> 01:12:07,920
approval and special permit approval
from the planning board back in February

924
01:12:06,000 --> 01:12:10,320
of 2024. Okay. It expired.
>> It expired.

925
01:12:08,719 --> 01:12:16,159
» So what you see here is what you
approved back in February. just tweaked

926
01:12:13,920 --> 01:12:19,520
» minor minor minor little tweaks.
Nothing. Yeah.

927
01:12:17,520 --> 01:12:22,320
» What what what did we end up coming up
with with the height of the water tower?

928
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:27,120
» It's 40 ft.
>> It is 40 ft.

929
01:12:25,360 --> 01:12:30,560
» And that's what's on the on the on the
plan right now as well.

930
01:12:28,560 --> 01:12:34,490
» Okay.
[snorts]

931
01:12:32,320 --> 01:12:37,520
» 22.
[clears throat]

932
01:12:35,520 --> 01:12:42,159
» So, Mr. Chairman, this is as the
applicant indicated, it's a reapproved,

933
01:12:38,880 --> 01:12:47,280
right? So they were before you in 23 and
24 which culminated in site 10 special

934
01:12:44,480 --> 01:12:52,400
use permit approval on February 29th
2024. Um one of your conditions required

935
01:12:50,320 --> 01:12:56,159
them to go to the town and either obtain
solid waste management permit or obtain

936
01:12:54,719 --> 01:13:01,360
confirmation from the town board it was
required. Town board determined that it

937
01:12:58,080 --> 01:13:05,360
was required. They have since obtain
that permit. Uh in the time that it took

938
01:13:03,440 --> 01:13:09,040
them to do that their site plan special
permit uh extensions have been

939
01:13:06,960 --> 01:13:11,920
exhausted. So they are applying to do
again essentially for the same

940
01:13:10,480 --> 01:13:15,920
application. There are some minor
modifications made. Some of those

941
01:13:14,400 --> 01:13:22,719
modifications were requested by the town
board. There's four storage added. The

942
01:13:18,960 --> 01:13:27,520
height of tank was changed location and
was last discussed at your August 6

943
01:13:24,640 --> 01:13:34,750
meeting.
>> And the 40 foot tower that falls within

944
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:36,770
45 ft. 45. Okay.
[clears throat]

945
01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:41,239
Comments from the board.

946
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:55,199
» Nothing.
>> Nothing.

947
01:13:52,400 --> 01:14:00,480
» Okay.
I will open up the meeting to the

948
01:13:56,719 --> 01:14:05,560
public. I'm a motion.
I'll make

949
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:05,560
» Marty second by

950
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:10,800
» Eric. All in favor say I.
>> I

951
01:14:09,440 --> 01:14:15,040
» against.
>> Okay. Anyone from the public who wishes

952
01:14:12,960 --> 01:14:19,199
to speak, just raise your hand. We'll
recognize you. If you could give us your

953
01:14:16,640 --> 01:14:22,199
name and your address and your concern,
please

954
01:14:32,480 --> 01:14:38,719
chairman and members of the planning
board.

955
01:14:36,159 --> 01:14:45,199
The purpose in submitting the following
comments is to request that the planning

956
01:14:41,600 --> 01:14:51,679
board fully examine the existing and
historical operations

957
01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:55,679
of the IWS transfer systems on Hartley
Road.

958
01:14:53,280 --> 01:15:01,920
the properties being used in connection
with those operations.

959
01:14:58,239 --> 01:15:09,080
The facilities documented,
storm order history,

960
01:15:04,960 --> 01:15:09,080
the prior town approval

961
01:15:09,199 --> 01:15:16,800
and seeker findings
and the relationship of all those

962
01:15:14,159 --> 01:15:21,840
matters to the application presently
before the board.

963
01:15:19,199 --> 01:15:29,120
The documents discussed
raise significant questions regarding

964
01:15:24,880 --> 01:15:34,159
the actual operation footprint of this
facility.

965
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:42,360
I respectfully ask the board to consider
the following before granting the final

966
01:15:37,280 --> 01:15:42,360
approval or making a determination.

967
01:15:42,640 --> 01:15:50,159
This applicant should provide
the complete prior planning board

968
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:56,239
approval
including the prior resolution,

969
01:15:54,080 --> 01:16:02,320
conditional approval,
approved site plan and all conditions

970
01:15:59,440 --> 01:16:09,760
attached to that approval.
If the present application

971
01:16:05,920 --> 01:16:17,679
is being treated as the modification,
renewal, or continuation of a previously

972
01:16:13,679 --> 01:16:22,880
approved project, the planning board and
the public should be able to make a

973
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:30,000
direct comparison
between what was previously approved and

974
01:16:26,719 --> 01:16:35,520
what is now proposed.
such as

975
01:16:32,080 --> 01:16:39,520
the property previously approved, the
previously approved operational

976
01:16:38,000 --> 01:16:44,400
footprint,
the building location,

977
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:51,440
truck circulation,
trailer storage areas, parking,

978
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:59,040
storm water facilities,
leshaped control facilities,

979
01:16:54,880 --> 01:17:04,719
approved paved areas, and all conditions
imposed. by the town.

980
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:11,558
Without those documents, it is difficult
for the public to determine exactly what

981
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:17,120
has changed.
[snorts] It is my understanding that the

982
01:17:14,159 --> 01:17:23,199
conditional site plan was approved by
the planning board on February 29th,

983
01:17:20,400 --> 01:17:29,040
2024.
That plan should be made part of the

984
01:17:25,920 --> 01:17:34,239
current application record.
The applicant should provide a side

985
01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:41,199
byside comparison between that
conditional site plan and the present

986
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:47,040
proposal showing all changes in parcel
boundaries,

987
01:17:42,719 --> 01:17:53,199
acreage, building footprint, truck base,
truck circulation,

988
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:58,800
parking, trailer storage, snow storage,
storm water facilities, leech

989
01:17:55,840 --> 01:18:03,920
facilities, and the use of the adjacent
property.

990
01:18:00,960 --> 01:18:10,880
The applicant should identify parcel
that is currently being used,

991
01:18:06,960 --> 01:18:17,199
proposed to be used, leased,
controlled, or otherwise relied upon in

992
01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:23,920
connection with the transfer station
operation.

993
01:18:20,080 --> 01:18:33,840
For each parcel, the applicant should
identify tax map number, acreage, owner,

994
01:18:29,199 --> 01:18:40,480
IWS's legal right to use the property,
existing use, proposed use,

995
01:18:38,239 --> 01:18:45,360
whether the parcel was included in a
prior planning board approval, and

996
01:18:43,520 --> 01:18:51,280
whether it is included within the
current solid waste permit,

997
01:18:48,800 --> 01:18:58,640
and whether It is included within the
current storm water permit and swap.

998
01:18:55,040 --> 01:19:02,320
This information should be shown on one
comprehensive map.

999
01:19:01,599 --> 01:19:07,840
[snorts]
Next, I'd like to introduce Sue Cleaver

1000
01:19:05,679 --> 01:19:10,769
and she will address her concerns on
this application.

1001
01:19:08,719 --> 01:19:12,640
» I would normally recognize Sue.
[laughter]

1002
01:19:11,360 --> 01:19:15,120
» That's my job.
>> Okay.

1003
01:19:13,360 --> 01:19:18,120
» Sue, would you like to step up and
speak?

1004
01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:32,000
Good evening. Is it okay if I approach
the board to give you copies of a

1005
01:19:29,199 --> 01:19:34,640
written from a protect concern
resident's way of life? It's not for

1006
01:19:33,920 --> 01:19:38,159
profit.
>> I would say give it to the building

1007
01:19:36,080 --> 01:19:40,159
department. They'll distribute it.
>> Okay.

1008
01:19:38,880 --> 01:19:44,679
» It's not it's not where we're going to
be able to read it on the spot now

1009
01:19:41,679 --> 01:19:44,679
anyway.

1010
01:19:49,840 --> 01:19:52,840
Sorry.

1011
01:20:06,239 --> 01:20:12,400
I tried to shorten the comments
[clears throat]

1012
01:20:09,840 --> 01:20:18,400
um were made in there because it's
friendly. Um I have um I copied an

1013
01:20:16,159 --> 01:20:27,120
email. I'd like to read part of it from
DEEC and it says DEEC is aware that IWS

1014
01:20:23,199 --> 01:20:30,400
ocean transfer station operations
extend beyond the 95 partly road

1015
01:20:29,679 --> 01:20:35,159
property.
>> What when was this written? What's the

1016
01:20:31,679 --> 01:20:35,159
date of the correspondence?

1017
01:20:40,080 --> 01:20:44,159
» March 4th.
>> Okay.

1018
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:47,280
um
>> of this year.

1019
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:53,040
» Yes,
that to me is um very troubling.

1020
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:58,239
Um
there have been pictures of the property

1021
01:20:55,199 --> 01:21:06,159
in the back and I believe and I think
I've also submitted um complaints to the

1022
01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:12,800
building inspector because of no cover
over top of some of the trailers that

1023
01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:16,480
are there. a property is not paved, it's
dirt.

1024
01:21:14,400 --> 01:21:21,171
And I'm going to explain to you why in
just a minute.

1025
01:21:19,151 --> 01:21:21,171
[clears throat]

1026
01:21:24,480 --> 01:21:30,640
Um
property behind besides and crosses

1027
01:21:28,480 --> 01:21:36,480
street that is used for trucks,
trailers, containers, equipment, snow

1028
01:21:34,000 --> 01:21:41,280
access and other support supported
activities should be disclosed and

1029
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:47,120
refused reviewed as part of the actual
trans transfer station. Snow stores

1030
01:21:45,440 --> 01:21:52,480
that's on the shown on the back
property. If if snow from industrial

1031
01:21:50,320 --> 01:21:56,880
site is stored on the joining or lease
property, the board should know where it

1032
01:21:54,719 --> 01:22:01,840
goes,
where the meltaway drains to, and what

1033
01:21:59,840 --> 01:22:06,960
controls prevent sediment and other
pollutants from reaching groundwater or

1034
01:22:04,480 --> 01:22:11,679
surface water or other people's property
that might abut.

1035
01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:16,560
Lease property. If the proposed
operation depends on a le on lease land,

1036
01:22:14,719 --> 01:22:22,400
the board should determine what happens
if the lease ends and whether the

1037
01:22:18,400 --> 01:22:28,080
facility could still operate under the
approval being requested.

1038
01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:34,880
» I'll turn the truck for a moment.
They have to come before the town

1039
01:22:32,080 --> 01:22:38,560
on an annual basis to renew the permit.
>> There is a renewal solid waste

1040
01:22:36,719 --> 01:22:44,239
management permit. I don't think five
years. So if if the lease were to lapse

1041
01:22:41,920 --> 01:22:51,199
on the adjacent property holders that
are letting them use the property

1042
01:22:46,960 --> 01:22:53,040
that has to be reviewed with any uh
>> I would think so

1043
01:22:52,000 --> 01:22:58,719
» renewal of their permit.
>> It would make sense that the tempor part

1044
01:22:55,360 --> 01:23:04,080
of the reissuance is
>> so we would need to make sure that those

1045
01:23:00,560 --> 01:23:06,880
properties are cited in the permit.
>> Yes.

1046
01:23:04,560 --> 01:23:12,239
» Okay.
Um facility boundaries um applicant

1047
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:17,520
should clear thelyorally distinguish the
per permitted facility, the IWS own

1048
01:23:15,280 --> 01:23:23,120
land, the lease land, operational land,
trailer and container areas, storm water

1049
01:23:20,480 --> 01:23:29,199
areas, and any property claimed to be
outside the application. Um your

1050
01:23:26,639 --> 01:23:34,560
application went from, I believe, under
three acres to over seven. Where's the

1051
01:23:32,080 --> 01:23:39,520
rest of the property? You're saying that
it's a very minor deal with

1052
01:23:37,040 --> 01:23:41,840
modification, but it's more than doubled
in size.

1053
01:23:40,159 --> 01:23:43,360
» Where where did the seven come from? I
saw that.

1054
01:23:42,480 --> 01:23:46,000
» I don't know.
>> It's on your It's on your

1055
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:49,040
» It's on your agenda.
>> Yeah. And it's been on it

1056
01:23:47,440 --> 01:23:51,440
» cuz cuz we're ending a quarter I think
it was a quarter acre adjacent.

1057
01:23:51,120 --> 01:23:54,880
» Yeah.
>> But I didn't see any other lands. I

1058
01:23:53,360 --> 01:23:58,639
don't know where the seven
>> I don't know. I'm asking you and I'm

1059
01:23:57,280 --> 01:24:01,199
asking
>> that way. It's it's coming from the

1060
01:24:00,639 --> 01:24:03,120
agenda.
>> Yeah.

1061
01:24:01,840 --> 01:24:06,080
» That number's coming from there. Okay,
chairman. I I prepare the agendas for

1062
01:24:04,880 --> 01:24:10,000
the town. I can tell you where that came
from. Okay.

1063
01:24:06,719 --> 01:24:14,560
» So, I copy and paste from previous uh
agendas. So, I'm guessing that at one

1064
01:24:12,639 --> 01:24:20,080
point in time, I'd have to look back at
all the agendas that went on. At one

1065
01:24:16,719 --> 01:24:23,840
point in time, that was the original
by

1066
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:26,560
changed and I can change the agenda. So,
that

1067
01:24:24,159 --> 01:24:32,239
» So, it's not seven.
>> No, no. I that that I think that that

1068
01:24:30,239 --> 01:24:38,560
goes way back. We have three plus
>> it's three acres but we do lease a small

1069
01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:42,080
area from the from if you remember Mr.
Chairman, when this was before you in

1070
01:24:40,000 --> 01:24:43,520
2023, the applicant was proposing school
order on the subject,

1071
01:24:43,280 --> 01:24:46,960
» right?
>> We were

1072
01:24:45,679 --> 01:24:51,480
so that's why
>> I had just never updated the agenda.

1073
01:24:48,480 --> 01:24:51,480
» Okay.

1074
01:24:52,159 --> 01:24:59,040
» Go ahead, sir.
>> Okay. Um, truck and trailer

1075
01:24:56,080 --> 01:25:04,000
configuration.
Um, when I pulled up the old map that

1076
01:25:01,679 --> 01:25:09,280
you have online and what is online right
now, it did not really match. The old

1077
01:25:06,560 --> 01:25:15,760
maps had the trucks coming in from the
backside going in. I think now you show

1078
01:25:12,159 --> 01:25:19,120
two bays on the backside and six bays on
where the current bays are where the

1079
01:25:17,520 --> 01:25:23,280
trucks are supposed to pull in and back
up. I don't really see what the

1080
01:25:21,360 --> 01:25:27,199
difference is because that's a
configuration almost of what you'll have

1081
01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:32,639
right now except there are going to be
more baits.

1082
01:25:29,280 --> 01:25:37,120
Um the claimed environmental benefit, I
just don't see what it's going to be. I

1083
01:25:35,040 --> 01:25:43,199
really don't and I think this should be
made clear. Um a complete storm water

1084
01:25:41,280 --> 01:25:47,360
review if you're putting in the back
piece even if it's a quarter acre and

1085
01:25:45,120 --> 01:25:51,520
it's on dirt and you're going to have
trailers like you've been having there

1086
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:55,679
that are uncovered which they're not
supposed to be when they

1087
01:25:52,480 --> 01:26:00,480
» but they're empty. They're empty.
>> Some of the ones the photographs I have

1088
01:25:58,000 --> 01:26:04,960
they're not empty and they didn't have a
solid cover because you can see it had

1089
01:26:02,719 --> 01:26:10,880
the netting on it.
And I believe that's a violation of a

1090
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:15,760
permit. Um you should have the storm
water should be reviewed to include if

1091
01:26:13,120 --> 01:26:21,520
you are putting that back in which the
town board has not approved.

1092
01:26:18,639 --> 01:26:26,480
I think that um that has to be taken
into account for [clears throat] all the

1093
01:26:23,120 --> 01:26:32,239
calculations done for leech 8 everything
else. You can't just add property and

1094
01:26:29,040 --> 01:26:38,080
say haha doesn't matter. historical
storm water exceedences and this is the

1095
01:26:34,639 --> 01:26:45,920
part that I am very troubled about. The
facility shows major past exceedences

1096
01:26:40,960 --> 01:26:52,639
from outfall number 001 including um TSS
which was over a,000 milligrams a liter

1097
01:26:48,880 --> 01:27:00,159
against as stated 100 millgrams a liter
iron 14,800

1098
01:26:55,199 --> 01:27:06,000
UG a liter against a th00and lead 78.4 4
UG a liter against 69

1099
01:27:04,159 --> 01:27:11,360
UG a liter. And there's [clears throat]
photographs in the back of the packets I

1100
01:27:08,159 --> 01:27:17,840
just gave you of this. The facility
itself

1101
01:27:13,120 --> 01:27:23,199
um they have a a report as part of the
um [snorts]

1102
01:27:19,920 --> 01:27:26,560
um permit they have. It's called a
corrective action. They have

1103
01:27:24,719 --> 01:27:33,840
exceedences. They have to fill out the
correct correction corrective actions

1104
01:27:29,840 --> 01:27:37,679
report. Um their report they say it on
the truck traffic and the wheels from

1105
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:43,440
the leeching.
What is this board doing about that?

1106
01:27:40,159 --> 01:27:48,560
right now where where this this
discharge goes over to Amy's.

1107
01:27:46,560 --> 01:27:54,159
I know that it said something in the
last resolution about plugging up the

1108
01:27:52,159 --> 01:27:59,760
discharge pipes, which I really don't
understand how you're going to plug them

1109
01:27:55,920 --> 01:28:05,120
up, but you can't just discharge stuff
like that onto somebody else's property.

1110
01:28:03,040 --> 01:28:10,000
That's your responsible.
I want to know what you're going to do

1111
01:28:06,719 --> 01:28:16,719
about it. And the applicant says over
and over and over again um on the

1112
01:28:13,760 --> 01:28:21,199
correction action form,
they blame it on the trucks and they're

1113
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:28,600
going to do better housekeeping.
I mean, how many times can you do that?

1114
01:28:23,600 --> 01:28:28,600
Is this is that okay with this board?

1115
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:37,520
Um [snorts] the other thing is um and
I'm just going to I'm not going to go

1116
01:28:33,840 --> 01:28:43,360
through all this. Um [clears throat] the
when John Capella was here and the last

1117
01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:49,199
finding statement that was done for a
permit when I believe it switched over

1118
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:56,159
to IWS, it was agreed that they would
uphold the approval for the permits and

1119
01:28:53,120 --> 01:29:00,400
anything they signed it. If you need a
copy of it, I have it. if they don't

1120
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:06,320
have it at the town board.
Um their findings was there was going to

1121
01:29:03,440 --> 01:29:10,880
be no trailers across the street. They
were all going to Chester and they gave

1122
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:16,560
the reason why environmentally
there wouldn't be any trailers between

1123
01:29:13,440 --> 01:29:21,679
across the street and over and back.
It's segmentation what you guys are

1124
01:29:18,480 --> 01:29:28,159
doing. You approved your last approval
was only and it was stated by Kelly

1125
01:29:25,440 --> 01:29:32,480
Norton. It was only for the facility
itself. It did not include the property

1126
01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:38,040
in the back. So now you've got the
property in the back and the property

1127
01:29:34,159 --> 01:29:38,040
across. That's segmentation.

1128
01:29:39,040 --> 01:29:47,199
Anyway, you'll see uh it's like a 30
page.

1129
01:29:43,760 --> 01:29:50,960
It's a 30page letter because there's so
many different issues on this. It it's

1130
01:29:49,440 --> 01:29:54,800
just
come on.

1131
01:29:53,760 --> 01:29:57,679
» Anyway, thank you.
>> Thanks, sir.

1132
01:29:58,639 --> 01:30:03,400
Do we have anyone else that wishes to
speak?

1133
01:30:03,812 --> 01:30:08,639
[clears throat and cough]
Good evening. My name is Chris Haley.

1134
01:30:06,480 --> 01:30:12,000
I'm a resident of the town of Ocean. I
also serve on the ERP and the ZVA boards

1135
01:30:10,639 --> 01:30:18,239
here in the town. However, I speak this
evening as a resident of the town. Uh my

1136
01:30:16,239 --> 01:30:22,560
issue is I'd like to follow up on what
Mrs. Clever said and uh although she has

1137
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:26,400
all the facts and figures, I'm just a
bit more on the code. I think we have an

1138
01:30:24,320 --> 01:30:31,199
administrative issue specifically town
code 80-B-9

1139
01:30:28,320 --> 01:30:37,120
sub paragraph B uh subar sub paragraph
D. Uh this is limitation on town land

1140
01:30:33,920 --> 01:30:41,280
area used for solid waste uh management.
Uh I'll paraphrase it says that you

1141
01:30:39,199 --> 01:30:47,679
can't have more than 300 acres in the
town to be used for solid waste

1142
01:30:43,679 --> 01:30:51,280
management. Uh it also includes it says
including that on by the county of

1143
01:30:50,159 --> 01:30:56,159
Orange. We're talking about the Orange
County landfill. The Orange County

1144
01:30:52,400 --> 01:31:01,760
landfill itself is 299 acres.
This new agreement that I've seen from

1145
01:30:58,880 --> 01:31:07,320
IWS in this iteration, I have now seen a
lease agreement for a 3acre lot,

1146
01:31:04,320 --> 01:31:07,320
SPL12-1-21.22.

1147
01:31:07,360 --> 01:31:14,080
This is a 3acre lot that sits behind
their current facility. It Mr. Chairman,

1148
01:31:12,560 --> 01:31:17,199
I heard you say tonight that it's
possibly a quarter acre edition.

1149
01:31:15,920 --> 01:31:22,560
» Well, the quarter is the one that's
northwest of the property where the snow

1150
01:31:19,440 --> 01:31:28,000
pile was intended to go. Okay. Now, that
that is the one and that is the one that

1151
01:31:24,880 --> 01:31:32,639
says snow uh snow storage. That is uh
12122.22.

1152
01:31:30,159 --> 01:31:38,080
Uh I've seen nowhere that it says
quarter acre. I saw a dashed outline on

1153
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:43,600
a map, but to be clear, that is a 3 acre
lot. And the lease states that they will

1154
01:31:40,719 --> 01:31:47,520
lease a 3 acre lot. That's it. And
that's what they legally have right to.

1155
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:52,400
In other words, that's a 3acre
expansion. Also like to follow up on the

1156
01:31:50,560 --> 01:31:56,800
previous speaker's comments that the
property across the street 17 uh

1157
01:31:54,320 --> 01:32:00,960
12-1-17.32
is a 5 acre lot being used for trailer

1158
01:31:59,360 --> 01:32:04,480
storage. And I understand where the
applicant would say we're just storing

1159
01:32:02,560 --> 01:32:08,000
our trailers there. But they're not just
trailers. These are trailers used for

1160
01:32:06,239 --> 01:32:15,120
municipal solid waste. I have said
before that this business in particular

1161
01:32:11,199 --> 01:32:18,719
is it's not it is not the applicant's
fault that it's just a very dirty

1162
01:32:17,040 --> 01:32:25,360
business. You can't help but to have
leech. You just can't help it. Lobo,

1163
01:32:22,480 --> 01:32:29,760
rollbacks, and open trailers are being
stored on that lot. There is no way the

1164
01:32:27,520 --> 01:32:34,480
applicant can hose these things out each
time. So, they're going to remain dirty.

1165
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:38,960
They're going to have material in them.
It is going to rain on these these

1166
01:32:36,719 --> 01:32:44,080
vehicles. And that D8 goes into the
ground. And it's all permeable surface.

1167
01:32:41,600 --> 01:32:50,800
This is all going into our waterhed. And
it is an environmentally sensitive area.

1168
01:32:47,440 --> 01:32:56,239
I do not see how the board cannot
consider that 5 acre lot part of this

1169
01:32:54,000 --> 01:32:59,440
facility. Now, as Mrs. Clever said at
one point, it was said that these

1170
01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:03,199
vehicles would be stored in another
town, making it another town's problem,

1171
01:33:01,760 --> 01:33:06,000
but they're not. They're being stored in
the town of Ocean, and that's the town

1172
01:33:04,560 --> 01:33:11,840
of Ocean's problem. And that's a problem
for me because I live here. Uh so when

1173
01:33:09,040 --> 01:33:17,120
you talk about a 3 acre lease and a 5
acre lot being used across the street,

1174
01:33:14,159 --> 01:33:24,320
we're talking about 8 acres of municipal
solid waste waste use on what is already

1175
01:33:21,440 --> 01:33:28,800
a 300 acre cap in the town of Ocean. As
an administrative matter, I don't see

1176
01:33:26,239 --> 01:33:33,199
how the board can approve anymore
because we're capped. The Orange County

1177
01:33:30,639 --> 01:33:36,639
landfill has us capped at 299 acres and
that's by design. We designed this when

1178
01:33:35,040 --> 01:33:42,560
we updated the plan back then. who
didn't want more. If you want more, town

1179
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:45,520
board needs to change the law. By the
way, tried that two years ago and it

1180
01:33:44,159 --> 01:33:51,120
failed. I don't think it's going to pass
today either. Um,

1181
01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:54,374
I appreciate the board's time. Thank you
very much.

1182
01:33:52,080 --> 01:33:56,000
» Thank you.
[cough]

1183
01:33:55,030 --> 01:33:59,000
[clears throat]
>> Neil,

1184
01:34:03,840 --> 01:34:09,679
» thank you very much. I always like
speaking nasty because then people think

1185
01:34:07,520 --> 01:34:13,520
everything I had to say. So this really
cuts it down. But for those of you who

1186
01:34:11,679 --> 01:34:17,920
don't know the history way back when
when when uh waste management owned

1187
01:34:16,639 --> 01:34:22,000
actually prior to waste management
northern recycling

1188
01:34:20,239 --> 01:34:27,280
uh and then [music] uh we we at that
point in time there was a gentleman who

1189
01:34:23,760 --> 01:34:30,800
lived nearby Charlie Austin uh maybe
somebody remember his name always

1190
01:34:28,800 --> 01:34:35,520
complained about the garbage way over
the fence and all the noises from the

1191
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:41,679
backup tables. At that point in time,
waste manager came in and actually uh

1192
01:34:39,520 --> 01:34:45,360
took over the property and that was when
the first canopy over top first roof and

1193
01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:50,159
the first walls around there ever came
into play. It was actually the result of

1194
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:53,679
this planning order that happened. Uh
that was not being proposed by anybody

1195
01:34:51,760 --> 01:34:58,880
else in at the time. It was probably the
first facility like that in at least

1196
01:34:55,520 --> 01:35:02,719
region three. Uh since that time DC
tried to claim it was their idea. Uh

1197
01:35:00,880 --> 01:35:09,600
however, it really did come from here.
uh and that's why we have these going

1198
01:35:04,400 --> 01:35:12,320
inside like that. Now, um so what I did
want to bring up though is that there

1199
01:35:11,040 --> 01:35:15,360
there are some differences between
what's being proposed tonight, what's

1200
01:35:13,679 --> 01:35:22,400
being presented tonight and what was
approved by you in 2024. And as as Sue

1201
01:35:19,120 --> 01:35:25,280
said, uh certainly uh that even when
there's a quarter acre or three acres

1202
01:35:23,679 --> 01:35:30,800
behind the property, that was not part
of the the proof that you gave then. nor

1203
01:35:28,000 --> 01:35:36,000
was it consideration when the town gave
their ADB uh permit. So that quarter

1204
01:35:33,679 --> 01:35:42,080
acre or 3 acres whatever is behind there
was not never part of that approval. Uh

1205
01:35:38,800 --> 01:35:45,520
it's outside of that. Uh
and and then you said something about

1206
01:35:43,520 --> 01:35:48,560
the compact going coming in property.
I'm not sure what that impact is what

1207
01:35:47,199 --> 01:35:52,840
the difference is except that they're
going in. Uh

1208
01:35:53,520 --> 01:36:02,239
the one question uh one one issue kind
of is there is on on the site plan uh

1209
01:35:59,199 --> 01:36:06,000
I'm not sure it's just past there's a 24
uh inch cover going onto the Amy's

1210
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:11,199
kitchen property and there's a 36inch
cover going onto the Altori property in

1211
01:36:08,159 --> 01:36:15,199
opposite direction. Uh and at that point
you're supposed to plug them up or

1212
01:36:12,320 --> 01:36:19,360
whatever. If you have two storm water
pipes that are that big, you have to

1213
01:36:17,600 --> 01:36:25,120
really question where the storm water is
now going, uh there is no additional

1214
01:36:22,400 --> 01:36:28,639
storm water collection anywhere. Uh it's
got to be it's not going down those

1215
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:32,639
pipes and going out the pipes. It's got
to be going sheet flow off the property

1216
01:36:30,159 --> 01:36:36,080
up to neighbors. Uh you just there's no
containment there. There is a new

1217
01:36:34,159 --> 01:36:40,560
containment for I believe that's being
designed for the leech off the tipping

1218
01:36:38,719 --> 01:36:44,320
floor and I think that that all that
leech inside the building there is going

1219
01:36:42,080 --> 01:36:48,400
to be collected in those tanks but those
tanks are not sized nor is the

1220
01:36:46,719 --> 01:36:54,239
infrastructure in there to collect all
the the storm water that's landing on

1221
01:36:50,400 --> 01:36:57,920
the pavements. Uh I think that's uh that
really needs to be looked at because of

1222
01:36:55,840 --> 01:37:02,400
the issue of if it goes off site, it's
going into the ground water sooner or

1223
01:36:59,600 --> 01:37:06,080
later. And ultimately uh there are at
least and there's also fraction trace

1224
01:37:04,080 --> 01:37:09,920
going down there and there are at least
two municipalities that have uh drinking

1225
01:37:08,320 --> 01:37:14,800
water down there. One of them being the
town of Warfield. The other one being

1226
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:19,520
the Boj. Uh so whatever goes in the
ground possibly end up showing up in the

1227
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:22,520
Boj water.
Uh,

1228
01:37:22,560 --> 01:37:29,840
and the other concern I still have is
the driveway access or leaving the

1229
01:37:27,600 --> 01:37:33,199
trucks leaving the property. Uh, we
still are showing that you're going to

1230
01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:39,679
have to go head on into the opposing
traffic. Uh, and we we keep saying that

1231
01:37:37,360 --> 01:37:43,119
we don't know how to do that. And and
I'm I'm I'm old probably the oldest

1232
01:37:41,520 --> 01:37:46,560
person in the room here. So I can tell
you that I get a little bit panicky when

1233
01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:49,280
I get down to Woodbury Commons and you
take the exit there and you got to go

1234
01:37:47,760 --> 01:37:51,199
over to Woodbury Commons and you're
going across the bridge on the wrong

1235
01:37:50,560 --> 01:37:54,880
side of the room.
>> You don't like the pretzel.

1236
01:37:52,159 --> 01:37:58,000
» It it is a weird situation. But I'm not
so sure that you can't do something

1237
01:37:56,320 --> 01:38:01,119
similar to that coming out of this
facility. give her a pencil there or

1238
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:04,560
whatever else, but it's not going to be
so freaky because the people going in

1239
01:38:03,280 --> 01:38:08,480
and out using that pretzel are going to
be the the drivers for IWS and the

1240
01:38:06,639 --> 01:38:11,360
people who use that facility regularly.
Uh I always succeed in getting through.

1241
01:38:10,159 --> 01:38:16,000
I haven't had an accident yet that
pretzel, but it always wow this is

1242
01:38:13,360 --> 01:38:20,639
weird. Okay, but I think I think a
better use or better design could be

1243
01:38:18,400 --> 01:38:24,480
made for that driving coming out. So you
don't have people coming head on into

1244
01:38:22,480 --> 01:38:29,840
the incoming traffic. And I think
there's s significant thing that we have

1245
01:38:27,679 --> 01:38:36,159
had we have developed three properties
along there. Uh TAM uh Higgby and the

1246
01:38:33,760 --> 01:38:39,520
one across the street uh is now on time
disposal I think it's called. Uh so

1247
01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:45,360
those three have been added. Plus we
also have a parking up area down there

1248
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:49,199
for the Heritage Trail. Uh, and since we
went ahead and paved that road used to

1249
01:38:47,760 --> 01:38:52,800
be really terrible, but since we went
ahead and paved it, we have a lot more

1250
01:38:50,960 --> 01:38:56,639
traffic going through there because it's
not like going down a dirt road and

1251
01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:59,840
banging your car. So, there's a lot more
traffic going through there on a regular

1252
01:38:57,920 --> 01:39:04,000
basis. It's getting more and more of an
issue. Uh, the amount of traffic going

1253
01:39:02,080 --> 01:39:08,080
there, it's going to get even more so
when we develop everything along 17mm

1254
01:39:06,320 --> 01:39:13,600
and 17mm, people are looking for ways to
get around 17M. Now during the day you

1255
01:39:10,560 --> 01:39:17,520
can back up uh a/4 mile to a half mile
sometimes. I know I've gone through

1256
01:39:15,440 --> 01:39:20,719
there and I've gotten just under 17 you
start to hit the road traffic all the

1257
01:39:19,040 --> 01:39:26,480
way through.
Uh now uh what I'd like to do is speak

1258
01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:32,800
on behalf of the of the PRV for a couple
of uh items. uh the parcel used for self

1259
01:39:30,159 --> 01:39:36,880
storage disregarding [clears throat]
disregarding whether or not it's allowed

1260
01:39:34,400 --> 01:39:41,520
to be added to it whatever the RB is not
making any kind of legal legal judgment

1261
01:39:39,840 --> 01:39:45,280
anything else but disregarding that and
then assuming it was allowed to be added

1262
01:39:43,760 --> 01:39:49,360
I think there was a big concern about
whether or not or how that parcel could

1263
01:39:47,760 --> 01:39:56,639
be used and whether or not it should be
lined if you pushing snow off the uh

1264
01:39:53,840 --> 01:39:59,600
black top uh it's going to have salt in
it possibly is going to have whatever's

1265
01:39:57,840 --> 01:40:02,560
on the property from the leech a from
the from the trucks. It's going to be

1266
01:40:01,280 --> 01:40:06,159
there and you're going to be pushing it
off onto there right now. If all you're

1267
01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:09,360
doing is pushing off on the dirt, it's
going to go in it's going to melt. It's

1268
01:40:07,520 --> 01:40:15,280
going to go into the ground. Uh we have
trouble in one part of town right now

1269
01:40:11,840 --> 01:40:20,719
from salt uh already. We don't need to
have that added there.

1270
01:40:17,760 --> 01:40:24,800
They the there are
two contamination that's all coming off

1271
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:29,520
site on the less and coming off the
vehicles. uh that is in a report that

1272
01:40:27,679 --> 01:40:34,320
they the applicant saying one of the big
concerns is that the dirty uh tires are

1273
01:40:32,159 --> 01:40:37,840
doing it. I don't have any experience
with carbon trucks like that but I do

1274
01:40:35,840 --> 01:40:41,600
know that I have experience on on
construction sites where what they do is

1275
01:40:39,360 --> 01:40:44,639
they have tire washes. You either drive
drive through a tire washer or at

1276
01:40:43,360 --> 01:40:48,480
Legoland they used to just hose them
down every truck going off the slate. uh

1277
01:40:47,199 --> 01:40:54,159
something like that may need to come
into play because if you go past the

1278
01:40:51,280 --> 01:40:57,440
front of that bu that facility sometimes
you can see a trail there and I don't

1279
01:40:56,000 --> 01:41:00,560
think it's grease I think it's whatever
else but you can see where they're

1280
01:40:58,960 --> 01:41:04,480
coming out where they where they're
traveling

1281
01:41:02,719 --> 01:41:10,960
uh
and there is also a requirement in our

1282
01:41:07,440 --> 01:41:14,880
code and it's also in in the DEC's code
that all solid waste facilities

1283
01:41:12,880 --> 01:41:19,600
including transportations have to be
fully enclosed with fencing

1284
01:41:16,960 --> 01:41:23,360
Uh if this part in the back, this
quarter [clears throat] acre wood, third

1285
01:41:20,880 --> 01:41:27,760
acre or 33 acres back there is not part
of this facility, the fence should be

1286
01:41:25,199 --> 01:41:32,880
moved up to the property line and to
eliminate anything off the back. I know

1287
01:41:29,600 --> 01:41:38,239
it's not this, but I I think from the
past uh back when it was [snorts] this

1288
01:41:36,080 --> 01:41:41,920
part of the landfill, there actually
used to be a gate back there so people

1289
01:41:39,920 --> 01:41:45,840
could take the garish through there on
the off hours so they could get back to

1290
01:41:43,600 --> 01:41:49,280
the landfill. uh we we are not in that
situation now but that's the reason why

1291
01:41:47,360 --> 01:41:52,800
the race essentially right thank you
very much

1292
01:41:50,000 --> 01:41:57,239
» thanks [snorts]
>> anyone else from the public wish to

1293
01:41:54,239 --> 01:41:57,239
speak

1294
01:42:01,760 --> 01:42:09,440
» um you can either adjourn public hearing
if you need additional comments can

1295
01:42:07,760 --> 01:42:12,000
close public hearing you can discuss the
application it's really how we want to

1296
01:42:11,199 --> 01:42:16,880
process the application
>> can we close it and have a window for

1297
01:42:15,360 --> 01:42:20,400
written comments to be submitted such
quickly push.

1298
01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:25,840
» Yes,
that reason

1299
01:42:23,280 --> 01:42:28,840
I really think that would be very
reasonable.

1300
01:42:29,360 --> 01:42:37,040
» Yes.
>> So then we would need a motion to close

1301
01:42:34,480 --> 01:42:44,000
the public hearing
and allow what 10 days.

1302
01:42:41,520 --> 01:42:52,520
» Yeah. Let me give you
So today's 20th day Sunday morning goes

1303
01:42:48,159 --> 01:42:52,520
to business on the 31st.

1304
01:42:58,639 --> 01:43:05,920
Could I have a motion then to close the
public hearing now [snorts] and allow

1305
01:43:03,280 --> 01:43:12,880
for written comments to be submitted to
the town building department by close of

1306
01:43:08,800 --> 01:43:16,639
business on August 31st?
I'll make the motion

1307
01:43:14,320 --> 01:43:19,040
» Marty second by second [clears throat]
>> Eric. All in favor say I.

1308
01:43:18,400 --> 01:43:21,666
» I
>> against. [cough]

1309
01:43:22,080 --> 01:43:28,560
» Well, I want to thank everyone in the
public for your comments and if you come

1310
01:43:26,000 --> 01:43:32,960
up with anything additional that wasn't
raised this evening, pass them on to the

1311
01:43:31,440 --> 01:43:35,520
building department and they will be
shared with us.

1312
01:43:34,400 --> 01:43:38,679
» Thank you.
>> Thank you.

1313
01:43:38,880 --> 01:43:43,000
» I will be right back.
>> Right.

1314
01:43:43,881 --> 01:43:45,901
» [cough]

1315
01:44:01,119 --> 01:44:04,440
» our opportunity.

1316
01:44:06,400 --> 01:44:09,880
» Let's do it.

1317
01:44:20,719 --> 01:44:25,239
resolution
200

1318
01:44:38,159 --> 01:44:40,400
approval.

1319
01:44:40,867 --> 01:44:45,159
» [laughter]
>> to do it.

1320
01:44:57,440 --> 01:45:00,600
» She has

1321
01:45:02,960 --> 01:45:06,280
There was a group

1322
01:45:13,280 --> 01:45:16,520
later on.

1323
01:45:24,097 --> 01:45:26,117
[snorts]

1324
01:45:26,560 --> 01:45:29,880
That's what

1325
01:45:42,239 --> 01:45:53,000
Sorry for that. Next item on the agenda
is Mark Tay Holding Group LLC 15-1-71.4

1326
01:45:53,280 --> 01:46:00,000
application for clearing and grading
permit for three single family dwellings

1327
01:45:56,800 --> 01:46:05,600
on 9.854 854 plus or minus acres on
reservoir road and lower reservoir road

1328
01:46:02,800 --> 01:46:12,080
in RU zone with AQ3 and street quarter
and reservoir wershed overlays.

1329
01:46:09,040 --> 01:46:16,199
And we have before us a conditional
resolution to consider this.

1330
01:46:23,199 --> 01:46:30,560
We have the map up on the wall. This is
what's being proposed. You just want to

1331
01:46:27,840 --> 01:46:33,040
give a brief
summary. [snorts]

1332
01:46:31,760 --> 01:46:35,600
» Yeah. Um
>> make it clear what we're actually

1333
01:46:34,639 --> 01:46:41,199
looking at.
>> Yeah. This is the same plan we had last

1334
01:46:37,600 --> 01:46:46,400
time. This is a 0.9 acres of disturbance
upgrading and clearing. It's just to

1335
01:46:43,280 --> 01:46:50,960
allow access to the site
for the well driller to be able to

1336
01:46:48,480 --> 01:46:53,920
install the new well so we can obtain
the Orange County Health Department

1337
01:46:52,320 --> 01:47:00,384
approval
required for us as a commission of the

1338
01:46:56,400 --> 01:47:02,800
additional approval we have for
[snorts]

1339
01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:09,199
um so that's just what we're seeking at
this time just

1340
01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:12,440
» just a clearing
thank you

1341
01:47:15,119 --> 01:47:22,440
I want to start by pointing out that
this resolution has successors on this

1342
01:47:22,639 --> 01:47:32,080
at that time
um specific specific conditions.

1343
01:47:28,960 --> 01:47:38,320
Number one, per section 5311 of the town
code, site preparation activities shall

1344
01:47:35,360 --> 01:47:46,960
be conducted only between the hours of
7:30 a.m. and 700 p.m. when within 1500

1345
01:47:43,920 --> 01:47:52,639
ft of any residents.
No site preparation activity shall be

1346
01:47:49,600 --> 01:47:58,000
conducted on Sundays or public holidays.
>> Just a quick question. If you write

1347
01:47:55,199 --> 01:48:01,840
above resolution
of [clears throat] approval, it says the

1348
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:07,194
finding board clarifies that the
application materials or information

1349
01:48:04,800 --> 01:48:11,600
required
[clears throat]

1350
01:48:07,840 --> 01:48:17,040
by chapter 53 the time code
but not listed above or contain within

1351
01:48:14,320 --> 01:48:21,440
those materials for the reference of
those materials.

1352
01:48:20,239 --> 01:48:25,520
» Which materials?
>> I I can answer that. Um so that that is

1353
01:48:24,080 --> 01:48:28,880
some general condition but that is
typically in most of your clearing fund

1354
01:48:27,119 --> 01:48:33,040
grading applications. This is a this is
a permit. This is [clears throat] site.

1355
01:48:31,199 --> 01:48:37,119
This is a permit and the code has very
specific items that need to be

1356
01:48:34,719 --> 01:48:40,880
submitted. In some instances they may
not be

1357
01:48:39,290 --> 01:48:44,480
[snorts] either appropriate or
applicable. So for example I don't

1358
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:48,560
necessarily know what your code does but
a lot of groups will say they want the

1359
01:48:46,639 --> 01:48:51,520
phone numbers of the adjoining property
owner. You know that's not really

1360
01:48:49,679 --> 01:48:55,960
applicable. So what this does is this
says anything that they haven't

1361
01:48:52,960 --> 01:48:55,960
provided.

1362
01:48:57,199 --> 01:49:04,960
» I'm just like those listed materials
listed where

1363
01:49:01,679 --> 01:49:07,960
» listed in chapter 23 of the code.
>> Okay.

1364
01:49:08,765 --> 01:49:12,600
[snorts] You may proceed with

1365
01:49:13,840 --> 01:49:23,920
number two. Per section 53-11B
of the town code, the applicant shall be

1366
01:49:21,040 --> 01:49:28,639
required to submit all contracts to
perform clearing and grading activities

1367
01:49:26,719 --> 01:49:33,000
to the town attorney prior to the
issuance of a clearing and grading

1368
01:49:31,199 --> 01:49:36,480
permit.
>> [snorts]

1369
01:49:34,159 --> 01:49:41,600
» Number three, prior to issuance of a
clearing and grading permit by the

1370
01:49:38,960 --> 01:49:47,760
building inspector, the applicant shall
comply with the memorandum of the town

1371
01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:51,280
engineer dated July 30th, 2026
to the satisfaction of the town

1372
01:49:49,440 --> 01:50:00,440
engineer.
Four, the applicant has indicated the

1373
01:49:54,320 --> 01:50:00,440
net volume of soil to be 2,97

1374
01:50:00,800 --> 01:50:09,040
yards. cute years
of cut.

1375
01:50:06,080 --> 01:50:15,520
The clearing and grading plan drawing
number G1

1376
01:50:11,280 --> 01:50:23,880
shows an approximate 45 ftx 25 ft top
soil stock pile.

1377
01:50:18,159 --> 01:50:23,880
It probably should say 45 diameter 25.

1378
01:50:24,746 --> 01:50:26,766
[cough and clears throat]

1379
01:50:31,040 --> 01:50:36,800
» Prior [snorts] to the issuance of a
clearing and grading permit by the

1380
01:50:34,159 --> 01:50:41,840
building inspector, the applicant shall
revise the plan to the satisfaction of

1381
01:50:38,960 --> 01:50:47,760
the town engineer showing how the excess
soil will be stockpiled on site. If it

1382
01:50:46,159 --> 01:50:54,480
is determined that the limits of the
disturbance shown on the plan need to be

1383
01:50:50,880 --> 01:51:00,480
expanded to accommodate the excess soil,
the applicant shall return to the

1384
01:50:56,159 --> 01:51:05,600
planning board for additional review.
Five. After approval of a clearing and

1385
01:51:03,360 --> 01:51:10,639
grading application,
but before issuance of any permit, the

1386
01:51:08,480 --> 01:51:18,280
applicant is required to file with the
town clerk a performance guarantee in

1387
01:51:14,480 --> 01:51:18,280
the amount of $74,785.

1388
01:51:20,080 --> 01:51:29,199
Per section 53-12A
of the town code, the guarantee is

1389
01:51:26,320 --> 01:51:35,487
required to be either a certified check
or letter of credit and the form must be

1390
01:51:32,080 --> 01:51:38,639
approved by the town attorney.
[snorts]

1391
01:51:36,159 --> 01:51:43,440
Six. Prior to issuance of a clearing and
grading permit by the building

1392
01:51:40,560 --> 01:51:49,679
inspector, the applicant shall identify
the limits of clearing clearing and

1393
01:51:46,239 --> 01:51:55,520
disturbance as shown on the plans in the
field with appropriate signage,

1394
01:51:52,320 --> 01:51:59,719
flagging, andor fencing to the
satisfaction of the building inspector.

1395
01:51:59,920 --> 01:52:06,719
Seven, prior to the issuance of a
clearing and grading permit by the

1396
01:52:04,320 --> 01:52:13,119
building inspector, the applicant shall
provide the building department with

1397
01:52:09,199 --> 01:52:15,520
documentation regarding permit status
with the New York State [snorts]

1398
01:52:14,159 --> 01:52:18,520
Department of Environmental
Conservation.

1399
01:52:19,119 --> 01:52:25,840
Eight, prior to issuance of a clearing
and grading permit by the building

1400
01:52:22,960 --> 01:52:32,159
inspector, the applicant shall provide a
fully executed indemnification and hold

1401
01:52:29,280 --> 01:52:36,040
armless agreement to the satisfaction of
the planning board attorney.

1402
01:52:36,880 --> 01:52:40,239
» Question.
>> So why is it the planning board

1403
01:52:38,560 --> 01:52:45,520
attorney?
>> That's how it's been in the past

1404
01:52:43,599 --> 01:52:51,119
with prior practice
>> in connection with uh clearing and

1405
01:52:48,960 --> 01:52:57,520
grading permits.
Do we have situations where herbicides

1406
01:52:55,119 --> 01:53:04,239
are used? And I bring that up because we
are fairly close to the reservoir.

1407
01:53:01,679 --> 01:53:08,400
» Uh to my to my knowledge I never in a
crossbowides

1408
01:53:06,400 --> 01:53:11,960
used
basically machinery.

1409
01:53:12,800 --> 01:53:20,800
» You don't think it's
>> I would I would if you want it as a

1410
01:53:17,599 --> 01:53:24,520
condition just to back it up.
>> It had a number n.

1411
01:53:25,520 --> 01:53:33,599
Yes, we do have it on the actual site
pesticides, herbicides, fertilizers and

1412
01:53:30,400 --> 01:53:40,000
other chemicals on the site. I was
concerned with [snorts] the project

1413
01:53:37,360 --> 01:53:43,320
that
>> was a water.

1414
01:53:44,800 --> 01:53:50,000
» Okay.
[snorts]

1415
01:53:47,440 --> 01:53:55,360
» Other comments, considerations for this
resolution?

1416
01:53:52,639 --> 01:54:01,840
» Not. Could I have a motion then? [cough]
Just a quick clarification.

1417
01:53:58,400 --> 01:54:07,199
» Um what what will be the eventual access
point for the uh houses there?

1418
01:54:05,599 --> 01:54:12,159
» Uh lower reservoir road.
>> It will be lower.

1419
01:54:08,560 --> 01:54:17,840
» Yeah, it's currently up to the to the
property line. There is already that uh

1420
01:54:14,239 --> 01:54:22,719
cur cut in gravel. There's a cover pipe
as well.

1421
01:54:19,920 --> 01:54:27,360
» Okay. So no access off reservoir.
>> No. No.

1422
01:54:23,520 --> 01:54:32,960
» Okay. Yeah. Thank you.
>> Any other comments, concerns?

1423
01:54:30,960 --> 01:54:37,040
If not, could I have a motion then to
approve the resolution of conditional

1424
01:54:34,560 --> 01:54:43,280
approval clearing and grading permit for
Marte Holdings Group Successors and

1425
01:54:39,360 --> 01:54:48,719
signs a lower reservoir road as modified
this evening.

1426
01:54:45,280 --> 01:54:54,840
Move bill second by
I'll second it.

1427
01:54:49,520 --> 01:54:54,840
» Giovani. All in favor say I. I. against

1428
01:54:55,920 --> 01:54:59,320
» you have an approval.

1429
01:55:06,800 --> 01:55:16,159
» Next item on the agenda is Solomony
Ready Mix of New York 12-1-102

1430
01:55:14,080 --> 01:55:20,960
and 106.2.
You have an application for a site plan

1431
01:55:18,159 --> 01:55:26,400
for a light industry on 16.3 plus or
minus acres on musket court on zone AQ3

1432
01:55:24,719 --> 01:55:31,920
overlay.
Welcome chairman Bergus

1433
01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:36,560
megley white househ on behalf of the
applicant a famous guy once sang along

1434
01:55:34,719 --> 01:55:42,800
the winding road has in fact brought us
back to you. Um we're here tonight uh

1435
01:55:40,000 --> 01:55:49,920
happy to report receive received a
positive uh interpretation from the

1436
01:55:44,719 --> 01:55:57,560
zoning board. Um the silos now zoning
compliant. Um we received a memo from

1437
01:55:54,560 --> 01:55:57,560
Sean

1438
01:55:57,920 --> 01:56:06,000
kind of catching everything up. It has a
lot offormational stuff, but

1439
01:56:02,639 --> 01:56:09,840
we presenting responses to that
obviously [clears throat] and things

1440
01:56:07,280 --> 01:56:14,320
that aren't, but there's nothing nothing
that appears at first much to be

1441
01:56:12,159 --> 01:56:18,800
anything other than just, you know,
updates to the plan. Uh, tonight I would

1442
01:56:16,800 --> 01:56:24,800
with Larry O'Brien from High Point
Engineering. So, John Sierro from

1443
01:56:21,199 --> 01:56:28,400
Stonefield traffic. You can walk through
walk through the traffic mitigation if

1444
01:56:26,400 --> 01:56:32,960
that's
preference the same as what we

1445
01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:40,639
considered when you granted the negative
declaration back in May. Um, you know,

1446
01:56:36,800 --> 01:56:47,159
and and that same traffic plan that was
essentially worked on and approved by

1447
01:56:42,239 --> 01:56:47,159
John Can from Kimly Orange.

1448
01:56:52,480 --> 01:56:58,400
» We're looking for that.
>> We're looking for

1449
01:56:55,599 --> 01:57:00,159
» Well, I was thinking of doing that.
>> Yeah. I don't

1450
01:56:59,440 --> 01:57:05,040
» It's okay.
>> Yeah.

1451
01:57:01,920 --> 01:57:11,280
» Can I just go ahead? So VRB very
astutely made this point u noted this

1452
01:57:08,159 --> 01:57:19,199
that the traffic mitigation plan has
sort of been superseded by the town of

1453
01:57:13,520 --> 01:57:23,040
wei Honda's uh new road laws um the
weight restrictions on those roads. So

1454
01:57:21,440 --> 01:57:27,440
um I don't know if you have a new
traffic mitigation plan. I feel like

1455
01:57:25,119 --> 01:57:30,239
it's not sort of our problem. Our
problem is just not having those left

1456
01:57:28,800 --> 01:57:34,639
turns and you guys can figure out where
the trucks go. Go ahead.

1457
01:57:31,920 --> 01:57:39,599
» Can't take the words out, but Mr. Sierra
is here as well. Uh, from Stonefield.

1458
01:57:37,920 --> 01:57:46,080
Um,
exactly. We we've mitigated to the

1459
01:57:41,840 --> 01:57:48,960
extent that we eliminated the left.
>> Um, yeah, good evening, chairman,

1460
01:57:47,440 --> 01:57:53,119
members of the board. John Solero,
Stonefield Engineering, traffic

1461
01:57:50,719 --> 01:57:58,080
engineer. Um, yeah, exactly what you
were just saying. And, uh, the plan for

1462
01:57:54,960 --> 01:58:01,840
that whole C4 mitigation is really, um,
we're hoping not to use it too much. you

1463
01:58:00,000 --> 01:58:06,000
know, most of our traffic we're going to
tell our employees, our delivery

1464
01:58:03,840 --> 01:58:10,800
drivers. We have we have full control
over because there is no uh retail sales

1465
01:58:08,880 --> 01:58:16,239
at this site. So, everyone coming in out
of and in and out of the site. Um it's

1466
01:58:14,239 --> 01:58:22,159
up [snorts] to the operator. Um they'll
all be coming from the west and yeah,

1467
01:58:19,840 --> 01:58:27,760
hoping to not use that too much as long
as we don't have to. But um yeah, but

1468
01:58:25,119 --> 01:58:32,400
way beyond the thing I as far as I
understand that road is under the

1469
01:58:29,440 --> 01:58:36,320
jurisdiction of the county.
So

1470
01:58:34,560 --> 01:58:40,480
» I don't think that's accurate,
>> right? So uh the road that you're

1471
01:58:38,000 --> 01:58:44,719
talking about is technical.
>> It [snorts] is a town road and it uh

1472
01:58:42,239 --> 01:58:47,760
it's split. Portion is under the town
way beyond this jurisdiction and

1473
01:58:46,239 --> 01:58:51,440
portions under the town agreements. Now
there may be some interal agreements

1474
01:58:49,440 --> 01:58:55,040
that either county or one of the two
towns maintains it, right? it doesn't

1475
01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:58,800
make a lot of sense to plow to a certain
point and turn [snorts] around. Um, so I

1476
01:58:57,199 --> 01:59:04,960
can look into the who maintains that
with highway if you'd like. Um, but I

1477
01:59:02,400 --> 01:59:07,960
just wanted you to know that it's not
jurisdiction.

1478
01:59:08,560 --> 01:59:11,639
» And again,

1479
01:59:17,440 --> 01:59:24,800
that's the type that
has also.

1480
01:59:22,000 --> 01:59:28,159
Yeah, I mean my my perspective is you
can teleport the trucks. It doesn't like

1481
01:59:26,800 --> 01:59:32,679
as long as they don't make left turns
that go pretty

1482
01:59:33,119 --> 01:59:41,840
making a fair share of contribution
toward eventual improvements on 17. So

1483
01:59:38,880 --> 01:59:46,920
we have a lot of I find there's a lot of
incentive to make sure that the things

1484
01:59:43,760 --> 01:59:46,920
are made.

1485
01:59:49,440 --> 01:59:52,920
» Any other comments?

1486
01:59:53,440 --> 01:59:57,360
» Republican, what are we looking at as
far as

1487
01:59:55,840 --> 02:00:00,880
» uh it's up to you, Mr. Chairman. You
could uh check the race before the

1488
01:59:58,880 --> 02:00:06,719
meeting. Uh if you'd like to have it on
September 3rd and 10th, uh we can make

1489
02:00:03,280 --> 02:00:11,119
sure that we get the um the notices out.
Uh we do have five other applications

1490
02:00:08,880 --> 02:00:15,520
lined up for that right now. So
>> this

1491
02:00:13,199 --> 02:00:18,639
almost exclusively initial
presentations.

1492
02:00:17,760 --> 02:00:20,880
» Uh no,
>> this would be

1493
02:00:19,599 --> 02:00:24,040
» this would be the only public hearing.
That's correct.

1494
02:00:24,733 --> 02:00:26,753
[snorts]

1495
02:00:32,400 --> 02:00:40,400
» Sounds good to me.
>> Um often we like prefer to have

1496
02:00:38,880 --> 02:00:46,080
renderings when they're available for
public hearings. Um is it a we haven't

1497
02:00:44,320 --> 02:00:53,679
asked them for that and b might be a
quick what's your feeling as far as

1498
02:00:52,080 --> 02:00:58,400
» if I could just chime in on that there
is a code requirement uh however uh this

1499
02:00:56,480 --> 02:01:03,440
is an industrial zone and it's private
road so usually that requirement kicks

1500
02:01:00,320 --> 02:01:07,280
in as a public road so in this
particular instance it's a private road

1501
02:01:05,040 --> 02:01:10,560
so you It's not required. Now, if the
code allows you to request any

1502
02:01:09,280 --> 02:01:14,080
additional information you feel
appropriate for the application, then

1503
02:01:12,159 --> 02:01:17,360
you can definitely ask that. But the
reason you haven't received it yet is

1504
02:01:15,520 --> 02:01:20,960
that applicant was not required to
provide it.

1505
02:01:17,840 --> 02:01:23,599
» Will those silos, the five silos be
potentially visible from 17M?

1506
02:01:23,280 --> 02:01:28,960
» Yes.
>> Even though we don't care about

1507
02:01:27,280 --> 02:01:31,520
» their corporate neighbor.
>> Yeah, you can see them from 17. No

1508
02:01:30,880 --> 02:01:35,280
question.
>> I just show

1509
02:01:33,920 --> 02:01:40,880
more. No, I don't have I thought you
were the uh No, you're just here from

1510
02:01:37,440 --> 02:01:43,040
the public. You can't talk.
>> Right.

1511
02:01:41,040 --> 02:01:47,040
» It was a blue test.
>> Well,

1512
02:01:45,360 --> 02:01:51,280
» what I'm thinking as far as just having
a

1513
02:01:48,800 --> 02:01:55,520
visual cross-section just showing what
it looks like coming through from 17M

1514
02:01:53,920 --> 02:01:59,760
looking in the general direction of
where those five silos going to be

1515
02:01:57,089 --> 02:02:02,880
[music] as far as how how they rise with
respect to the hill behind it and the

1516
02:02:01,920 --> 02:02:07,280
ridge.
>> Right. Larry O'Brien.

1517
02:02:05,840 --> 02:02:11,199
We could prepare that section. I think
Mr. mention that in the memo that

1518
02:02:10,560 --> 02:02:15,400
section.
>> Sure, we could have that for the public

1519
02:02:12,400 --> 02:02:15,400
hearing.

1520
02:02:16,320 --> 02:02:20,639
» Yeah, let's just talk about that for a
second, Mr. Chairman. So, if you want to

1521
02:02:19,679 --> 02:02:24,080
schedule a public hearing, you're
obviously going to want time for review

1522
02:02:22,000 --> 02:02:26,480
applicants because you have to be in two
week prior

1523
02:02:24,880 --> 02:02:31,440
» if that's what you'd like. Typically,
you require two weeks prior, but this is

1524
02:02:29,360 --> 02:02:36,040
only one item. Uh you have made
exceptions in the past for submissions.

1525
02:02:38,800 --> 02:02:44,880
» Well, when uh when do you think you can
get the renderings to us?

1526
02:02:42,960 --> 02:02:50,679
» Certainly within we can certainly make a
week before

1527
02:02:46,719 --> 02:02:50,679
» a week before the public

1528
02:02:55,280 --> 02:02:59,040
works.
>> We're going to need some time the public

1529
02:02:57,760 --> 02:03:01,679
week. We got to get ready ourselves
here.

1530
02:03:00,960 --> 02:03:04,880
a public hearing.
>> Yeah, I understand that. But

1531
02:03:02,800 --> 02:03:08,000
» so then you can set
>> how does it work though if there's no

1532
02:03:06,159 --> 02:03:10,480
public hearing before the planning board
or rather before you do your N deck?

1533
02:03:09,599 --> 02:03:15,800
What does it matter after that?
>> So Mr. Chairman would like to take

1534
02:03:12,800 --> 02:03:15,800
action.

1535
02:03:16,560 --> 02:03:21,560
» You can take action if you'd like. You
don't think it's public

1536
02:03:22,960 --> 02:03:30,080
hearing?
>> It's whenever the board wants to

1537
02:03:27,199 --> 02:03:35,760
September 3rd. I have a motion
>> move.

1538
02:03:31,040 --> 02:03:37,679
» Phil, second by second.
>> All in favor say I.

1539
02:03:36,960 --> 02:03:39,920
» I
>> against

1540
02:03:39,040 --> 02:03:43,400
» September 3rd.
>> September 3rd.

1541
02:03:51,280 --> 02:03:59,840
» I like just want to make sure
3M27 to the building department.

1542
02:03:57,599 --> 02:04:03,400
submission.
>> Yeah, that's fine.

1543
02:04:10,400 --> 02:04:13,960
» Thank you very much.

1544
02:04:22,880 --> 02:04:27,440
» About those five items?
>> Yeah, I figured you'd ask about those,

1545
02:04:26,480 --> 02:04:32,719
Mr.
Uh so the five items that you have kind

1546
02:04:30,719 --> 02:04:34,159
of the mini
uh

1547
02:04:33,520 --> 02:04:38,360
» here's a surprise.
>> I'll be the judge of that.

1548
02:04:35,360 --> 02:04:38,360
» Milar,

1549
02:04:39,840 --> 02:04:50,679
» Cory Stone,
six Virginia Lane, that's a contractor

1550
02:04:45,599 --> 02:04:50,679
business. Uh Ocean Floors.

1551
02:04:51,040 --> 02:04:56,960
» These are all new applications.
>> Uh more or less. Yeah. Multimart has

1552
02:04:54,800 --> 02:05:02,840
been around in and out a number of times
with

1553
02:04:58,880 --> 02:05:02,840
uh and then public.

1554
02:05:03,119 --> 02:05:08,360
So yeah, that'll be five and six.

1555
02:05:11,119 --> 02:05:14,360
» We're good.

1556
02:05:17,040 --> 02:05:21,639
» Any other issues the board wants to
raise?

1557
02:05:22,719 --> 02:05:28,000
Not. Do I have a meeting uh motion to
close the meeting?

1558
02:05:27,199 --> 02:05:32,080
» Move.
>> Second.

1559
02:05:29,199 --> 02:05:37,280
» Bill, second by Bill. All in favor say
I. I.

1560
02:05:33,840 --> 02:05:37,280
» Have a good night.