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» Okay, [music] welcome to the Tuesday,

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July 14th, 2026 meeting of Grafton Mass

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Accessibility Advisory Commission. I'm

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Roger Trahan, the chair, and I call this

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meeting to order.

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And first, because we're meeting via

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Zoom, I will uh

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make sure everyone is here and

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can be seen and heard. So, I'm going to

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call a quick attendance. Christy

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Proctor.

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» Here.

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» Tracy Sharkey.

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» Here.

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» Sarah Salbu Young.

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» Here.

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» Roger Trahan, here, of course. And um

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All right, first item on the agenda,

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welcoming our newest member, Sarah Salbu

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Young.

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» Yay.

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» And uh do you include the uh Salbu in

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your when being introduced formally?

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» Yeah, I it really doesn't matter. You

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can just call me Sarah Young, that's

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probably easier. But whatever you want

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to do, I go by Sarah Salbu Young, so.

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Um but I'm not picky.

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» [laughter]

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» Well, welcome aboard, and uh

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» Thank you.

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» Uh just by way of introduction, Christy.

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» Yes, hi.

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» About yourself.

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» Yeah, I'm Christy Proctor, and I've

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lived in Grafton since 1998,

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and I am a post-secondary

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disability specialist, which means that

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I work in the college setting to provide

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accommodations

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and access for students, visitors, and

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faculty

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at now currently at Quinsigamond

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Community College.

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» All right, Tracy.

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» Hi, Tracy Sharkey. I'm the building

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commissioner, also the ADA coordinator,

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and the select board delegate for the

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commission. I live in Oxford, and I've

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been working for the town since November

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2023.

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So, welcome and I appreciate you

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volunteering your time

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» Sure.

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» For this good cause. It's

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very noble of you and we really

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appreciate you for coming on board.

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» Of course, yeah, happy to be here.

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» And Roger Trahan, current chair. I can't

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seem to shake that.

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» [laughter]

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» And um

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but um it's been great uh

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the commission was originally formed in

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2009, but then had a an 8-year hiatus

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between 2011 and 2019.

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And so I I took the initiative to kind

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of get it back on its feet. So, I've

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one of the uh

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sort of quote-unquote re-founding

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members as as Christie since that time.

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And um

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I just stepped off a board of library

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trustees, so now I have just one

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committee.

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Whereas you, Sarah, tell us about

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yourself and how busy you are.

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» Sure.

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» [laughter]

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» I mean, you guys are very sound very

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busy and so cool to meet you. This is

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why I'm interested in doing this. So, um

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my husband and I moved to Grafton in

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2020. So, we were living in Boston and

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then we were like, oh, work from home.

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Let's start driving towards Connecticut

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cuz that's where my family is and his

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family's in Ohio. So, we're like, okay,

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at least we'll be like somewhat close

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and found Grafton and absolutely love

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it. This is definitely home. And so, I

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have two young boys. I'm now a full-time

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parent and uh 2 years ago got involved

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in the Affordable Housing Trust, um

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which I've increasingly really enjoyed.

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And so, I I just have found it to be so

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I I just

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want to contribute to the town, A,

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because I have young boys here and so

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that's my goal, but then my second

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reason is I really want to learn. And

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so,

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Roger, I saw you speak at the town

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meeting and then again on the select

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board meeting and I know that some

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committees just aren't that active and

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so given your enthusiasm, I was like,

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"Okay, that's a committee I'd like to be

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a part of." Um and then I do have a

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friend actually because I joined the

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affordable housing trust then she lives

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in Shrewsbury, she joined the

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accessibility commission for Shrewsbury

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and so then I've been hearing about that

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experience cuz she's like, "Oh, well you

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did it there." So she was inspired to

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get involved in that and so it kind of

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then bounced back to me and I'm like,

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"Okay, now I'm going to get involved in

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that one." [laughter]

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Um in Grafton. So that's why I'm here.

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the accessibility um experience that you

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all have um

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but I am here to learn and I just want

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to contribute and um my background

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professionally is communications. Um so

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I feel like that's

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hopefully where I can maybe help with

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outreach or um things like that that cuz

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that's kind of my my area of expertise

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but yeah, anyway, so just here to learn

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and contribute as best I can.

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» All right, thank you Sarah and welcome

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aboard and without you we wouldn't have

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a quorum. So

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» There you go.

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» That works.

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» No, that is really awesome and um

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uh our next item on the agenda is uh

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remembering Paul Letourneau. Uh Paul uh

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had been on the commission uh Paul

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passed away back on June 26th

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and he had been on the commission 2023.

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um I will say uh a few words uh about my

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thoughts regarding Paul but first I I

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want to offer a moment of silence.

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All right, Paul Eterno. He

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the commission. I know that Paul

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had um

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you know, he didn't have his own

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transportation and

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uh coming going to and fro from

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uh in-person meetings really would have

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a challenge for him. So, the fact that

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we met via Zoom really allowed him the

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accessibility to

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uh consistently be able to join our

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meetings and um

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so I I think Zoom has been um

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a sort of godsend to a lot of people and

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I think it was for you know, Paul being

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part of our commission and and he was uh

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he brought a unique perspective um

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uh including his age. He was in his

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early 80s

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and he was um

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he was a real disability advocate who

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had served with me on the board of

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Genesis Club in Worcester. For those who

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uh supporting those in recovery from

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mental illness. And so,

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you know, I had known Paul for almost 20

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years and so um

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it was kind of neat that we reconnected

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in Grafton and he was living up at

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at Forest Lane. So, um

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so I you know, I had visited him a few

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times in recent months, you know, before

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he fell ill you know, for the final

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time. And so um yeah, he was just a all

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around great guy. So, um

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uh I'll I'll miss him uh

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you know, as a member of this commission

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and as a friend. So.

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who had

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whose term expired back on June 30th,

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uh did not re-up. She had since moved

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out of Grafton.

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that um

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kind of blends into the fact that we now

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uh vacancies on the commission.

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Uh one expiring

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next June 30th, '27, and two

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on 6/30 of '28. But before uh

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making further comments on that, uh

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a sort of re-founding member back in

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2019 along with Christie and myself.

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and you know, I I really appreciated her

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input. Uh she was someone who who uh

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uh was great to work with, a really a

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really just kind human being, and um

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uh she in the past had um

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uh hopped on board uh and you remember

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this, Christie, with National Night Out

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when we hosted a table and

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you know, pause for people and our

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our accessible Barbie um

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set up that year. That was That was

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cool. Um but always uh contributing and

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moved out of Grafton. And what I'd like

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behalf of the commission for her 7

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» Do we need to make a motion?

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» Uh probably not. I think we can do that

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» Anyone object?

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we don't get wound up in Robert's Rules,

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» Sounds good to me.

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» Yeah. And so getting back to the three

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vacancies uh

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uh come before the select board and and

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I I saw that the meeting where you you

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applied. So thank you for your kind

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words, by the way.

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you know um

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it was good to hear that um

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you know that that

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it caused you to you know to to come to

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action, which was neat. And um

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I then put something on All Things Graft

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um making note of the

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the the three vacancies. I I don't know

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if I mentioned three vacancies. I I may

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may have. Um I I'll say tongue-in-cheek

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that maybe I think I'd get more traction

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if I sort of offered some

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random free town trash bags and then

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you had to read the if you read the post

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and commented on it, you know,

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maybe that would would gain some

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traction, but um

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it

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I

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I don't know really and may maybe Sarah

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with your communications expertise uh

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kind of get more word out um

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regarding um

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uh trying to advertise and at a high

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level what we do and what the

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commitments are. Um so I included that

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as sort of a placeholder on the agenda,

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but

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I

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getting back Sarah to you and I and we

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had a uh

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a chat back and forth uh texting

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regarding a friend of yours

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um

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who who was deaf and we were had chatted

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about

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uh close caption capacity and and I

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doubled back with Christie on this as to

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and I will ask Christie to to weigh in

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on

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um

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just the close captioning piece, how

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accurate

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it has been for you

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as far as your experience for someone

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who would need captioning

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in a live setting and

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how much of a delay there is just for

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that versus uh

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using other assistive means.

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» So, to answer this question, I just have

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to ask Sarah, are you used to closed

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using closed captioning as a default?

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» So, I yeah, I I mean, I've just

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at the last company I worked at when we

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had like all company meetings, they

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would turn it on to I don't know the IT

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about that. I know it's not always

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accurate, um, but at least you can kind

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of in get a sense of what's being said.

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Um, and I just think

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So, yes, my friend my good friend Laura,

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she's uh our sons know each other.

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That's how we became friends. Um, and so

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actually being on that these meetings

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are only held on Zoom actually puts us

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potentially at a you know, at the

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opportunity to include her um, without

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having to bring an interpreter.

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Um,

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so

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So, yeah, cuz I don't sign. I actually

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just um, we just use notes app on our

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phones.

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Uh, so that's how we communicate.

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Um,

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but yeah, so I don't know if if that's

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something that we could enable and I'm

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actually going to see her tomorrow so I

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can even like talk to her about um, her

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interest. But in addition to Laura, what

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I'm thinking is and this is why I I'm

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excited to get involved and learn more

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about these different projects. What I

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would say from a communications

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perspective is

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I think it's great to reach out broadly

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in the selectboard meetings and all

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things Grafton meetings, but I think we

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can also think about, you know, who are

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the populations of people that are

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affected by the projects

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that we're involved in. So, is it

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um you know,

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student populations and their families.

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So, maybe a parent or a grandparent that

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would want to get involved. Um you know,

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someone related to someone you know, in

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connection to the senior center or

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something. So, you know, where where can

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we be just a little bit more focused and

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targeted um with our outreach, even if

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it is like one-on-one conversations.

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Just thinking about just kind of the the

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populations that are being affected by

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the group that we're doing. I think

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that's going to be kind of lead us to

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potentially sourcing people. I mean, the

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broad getting the word out there is

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needed, is a must, it's useful to get

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that awareness, but then getting that

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next level to actually get that

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engagement for someone to, you know, get

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really engaged is um kind of breaking

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that down and then thinking about what

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groups of people would want to go out,

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even engaging the library, you know, is

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there anything

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Are there any groups that participate in

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things that use the library space? Maybe

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we could connect with them. You know,

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I'm not sure. I'm just kind of throwing

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ideas out there.

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» Well, if Laura uses sign language, then

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we would have an interpreter for our

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meeting because that's her first

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language.

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» Okay. Okay. Yeah.

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» And whether it's using video remote

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interpreting, which means that we would

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have an interpreter join us in the

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meeting remotely, or if we would have

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someone um you know, the town might have

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a contract with interpreting services or

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an interpreter.

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You know, that would be set up, I guess,

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through Tracy or you know, the TA's

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office, but you know, again, it goes

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back to if that's her first language,

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that's what we need to have interpreted,

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not the captioning cuz the captioning's

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okay for us who understand a lot of the

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words as they're spoken. And even though

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the pronunciation, excuse me,

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the spelling can be atrocious.

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» [laughter]

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» Um

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um

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you know, that it's not our first

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language, so we kind of live with it.

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But for someone whose first language is

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sign language, then we would because

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that's their first language, they need

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it.

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And to provide access to her,

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um now with the new regs for the ADA, we

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need to be able to provide

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the chosen communication method in real

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time.

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And yes, there is a lag to some

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captioning.

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Um I

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I use captioning all the time, so even

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in meetings with no deaf people, I I I

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just always use it now. So,

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um

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you know, please let Laura know that um

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not hold her back

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or preclude her from from joining the

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commission.

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» Yeah, okay. Awesome.

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Cool.

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» And and I would I would add um

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that

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it would um

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because we meet predictably on the

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second Tuesday of each month

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that that should be um

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something that

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be

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it's not like a last-minute thing. The

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you know, there would be proper

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planning.

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I would simply want to be sure that um

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if there's ever a last-minute

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cancellation

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that we have a backup because I recall

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one recent time meeting where we were

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actually planning on having uh an

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interpreter

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or interpreters

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um and one or both couldn't make it.

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And so we had to on short notice

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nix that idea, and that should that

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shouldn't happen.

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But and that may have been different. I

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don't know.

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Um

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I I I think that for a town meeting that

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has gone multiple hours, I know that

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it's preferred uh to have two

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interpreters and they they

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do 15, 20 or so minutes and then they

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trade off.

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Um I don't know whether our meetings,

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which typically don't go beyond

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60 to 75 minutes, would require two

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interpreters.

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Um Christie, would you have uh or Tracy

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have an um

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a sense of whether uh

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a committee meeting such as ours

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typically doesn't go beyond 75 minutes,

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whether that would require one or two?

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» Two.

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» And Would it Okay.

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» And then we would also send the meeting

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agenda in advance for the interpreters

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to read.

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» Okay.

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» And review.

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» Okay.

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All right.

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Yeah, Sarah, I would I would encourage

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her to to apply and we would arrange for

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an interpreter services for the select

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board meeting.

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» Okay.

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» Um and um

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the select board meeting doesn't require

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in-person attendance. They they are

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hybrid.

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So, if however, it would be easiest

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I I know that some interpreters um

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are not as close by

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and so

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um

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you know, so however that would work,

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either in person or both being Zoom for

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the application um in interview,

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uh we'll just make it happen.

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» Okay.

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» Yeah.

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» And then

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the other thing you mentioned, Sarah, to

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even extend this further,

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» Yeah.

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» You know, the populations that we want

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to touch upon may not only have um

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you know, a disability, but what if

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they're second language um users? So, uh

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you know, I just think of how with

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Worcester Public Schools, every meeting

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we have with them, there's always a

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Spanish language interpreter every time

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we have parent meetings.

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And you know, I don't know if we're

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going that way, but I know that a lot of

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our websites, when you uh log into them,

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they or even let's be honest, even if

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you're on the phone and you're calling

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Verizon, they say, "What language do you

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want this to be in?" You know, they have

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like three choices. Or the hospital has

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10 choices.

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So, um you know, well,

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that I'm sure will become um something

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we're going to talk more about in the

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coming coming year.

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» All right.

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All right, yeah, awesome. Uh

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So, um moving on uh with announcements,

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Americans with Disabilities Act 36 uh

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36th anniversary

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on July 26th. So, that's right around

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the corner.

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I know that um

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we have typically

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uh not done a whole lot

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regarding the recognition other than put

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something on the uh town webpage

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or even on the town website.

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Um Christie, what's the most recent

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thing we had done as far as advertising?

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» I'll I'll I'll show you right right now,

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the ribbon for the Accessibility

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Advisory Commission just shows the roof

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of the high school that says Grafton

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High School.

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» Okay.

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» It's okay. Nothing great. But, if you

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happen to go to the Facebook page for

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Student Accessibility Services, you'll

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see we have the 36th anniversary, and we

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also have

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um the flags for Disability Pride Month.

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» Okay.

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» Have two things going on.

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» Okay.

566
00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:07,360
» So, um you know, and that's in many

567
00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:09,000
places. If you're looking at different

568
00:21:07,360 --> 00:21:12,120
types of

569
00:21:09,000 --> 00:21:14,440
either services or or programs that

570
00:21:12,120 --> 00:21:15,200
support people with disabilities, so.

571
00:21:14,440 --> 00:21:17,480
» Right.

572
00:21:15,200 --> 00:21:19,160
I I know that on social media, I've seen

573
00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:22,840
numerous things regarding disability

574
00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:24,680
pride and the flag and

575
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:26,960
almost

576
00:21:24,680 --> 00:21:29,600
almost um

577
00:21:26,960 --> 00:21:32,720
universally, the folks that I've spoken

578
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:35,520
with regarding disability pride month

579
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:37,560
have confused it as a sort of offshoot

580
00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:41,200
or an extension of

581
00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:44,960
um June's pride month and um

582
00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:47,080
I've gotten confused as to what it is um

583
00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:49,800
because they both have multi-colored

584
00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:51,760
flags and um

585
00:21:49,800 --> 00:21:54,400
and so I don't know if anyone else has

586
00:21:51,760 --> 00:21:57,240
run into that, but I certainly

587
00:21:54,400 --> 00:21:59,320
would uh on my own social media,

588
00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,880
uh I've always done this

589
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:03,000
uh

590
00:21:59,880 --> 00:22:05,840
advertise the um

591
00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,880
the ADA anniversary on that day.

592
00:22:05,840 --> 00:22:08,880
Um

593
00:22:06,880 --> 00:22:10,160
and maybe we could also put something on

594
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,640
the

595
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:15,760
uh

596
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:15,760
on our webpage ASAP.

597
00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,280
» Would that be through

598
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,480
the existing ADA?

599
00:22:21,120 --> 00:22:24,640
» Would that be or yeah, probably William.

600
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:27,280
» William?

601
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:30,680
» I I would think so or I'm sure Amber or

602
00:22:27,280 --> 00:22:33,920
Cindy have um sort of equal access to

603
00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:33,920
put those logos up.

604
00:22:34,360 --> 00:22:38,120
With whatever we would send to them.

605
00:22:41,280 --> 00:22:43,480
Anyone want to volunteer?

606
00:22:43,070 --> 00:22:46,080
» [laughter]

607
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:46,680
» Well, do you want me to send along the

608
00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:49,080
um

609
00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:50,800
disability pride month flag because the

610
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:53,880
one I use

611
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:56,000
um explains what each color means and

612
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,840
what the black background means. I mean,

613
00:22:56,000 --> 00:23:00,080
it's

614
00:22:56,840 --> 00:23:00,560
where did I steal it from?

615
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,560
» Super.

616
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:04,040
» Uh

617
00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,440
Humanware. I think I took it from human

618
00:23:04,040 --> 00:23:07,560
wear.

619
00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:09,400
But because

620
00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:11,720
um

621
00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:14,240
it and it's tagged. So, that's good. It

622
00:23:11,720 --> 00:23:15,680
has the alt tags on it for anyone who's

623
00:23:14,240 --> 00:23:16,560
looking at it.

624
00:23:15,680 --> 00:23:19,240
But

625
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:21,960
» Where um

626
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:25,720
There's only so much real estate on our

627
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:27,720
our page. Where would where would we put

628
00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:29,000
where and when would we put the Pride

629
00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:30,920
Month

630
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:33,200
in where like half we into that right

631
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:36,920
now and then the

632
00:23:33,200 --> 00:23:39,240
ADA anniversary logo

633
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:40,560
on those on the page.

634
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,240
Because if we're going to contact

635
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:45,520
William or someone else in the TA's

636
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:48,560
office, we would want to give them

637
00:23:45,520 --> 00:23:51,520
some specific direction of

638
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:54,000
how prominent and where we want that

639
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:56,560
without bumping the con- without bumping

640
00:23:54,000 --> 00:23:59,040
the content. And so, I don't know

641
00:23:56,560 --> 00:24:01,240
whether we

642
00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:05,520
we take up a lot of real estate with the

643
00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:07,160
vacancy ad on our page.

644
00:24:05,520 --> 00:24:09,040
» Well, here's my question. You know, not

645
00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,520
many people go to our commission's

646
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:14,160
website.

647
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:15,320
Let me go home to the home page

648
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,920
of

649
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:18,400
um

650
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:20,560
See, I don't think they're going to put

651
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:23,920
anything up. It just says events and

652
00:24:20,560 --> 00:24:25,480
spotlights and it has meetings

653
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:27,680
and the floating wheelchair ribbon

654
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:29,760
cutting ceremony and the pay as you

655
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:32,040
throw trash bag increase. You know, I

656
00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:33,240
mean, it's not it's not really newsy

657
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:35,400
news.

658
00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,920
» Are you talking about the town web page

659
00:24:35,400 --> 00:24:38,600
or the

660
00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:40,840
» That would be a great way to you know,

661
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,720
really place it. The banner right now

662
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:45,560
shows, in fact, let me just share my

663
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:49,000
screen because it's just so inspiring.

664
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:49,000
You you need to see this.

665
00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:54,120
Let's see. Oh, sharing's not turned on,

666
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:55,960
Roger. So, let me describe this for you.

667
00:24:54,120 --> 00:24:58,760
It's a winter scene.

668
00:24:55,960 --> 00:24:59,520
» Can I do share How do I do I screen? All

669
00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:02,720
right.

670
00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:04,600
» Yeah, it's a winter scene of the new

671
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:08,400
» I think you can share now.

672
00:25:04,600 --> 00:25:09,960
» Firehouse. Okay, let's see.

673
00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:11,080
» Can you share?

674
00:25:09,960 --> 00:25:12,680
» Yep, here we go.

675
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:17,720
» It on. Okay.

676
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:17,720
» Unfortunately, this is not uh

677
00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:23,320
anything that's

678
00:25:20,720 --> 00:25:25,560
I mean, in fact, it's interesting cuz we

679
00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:27,520
view this banner there's so many

680
00:25:25,560 --> 00:25:29,240
different banners that you

681
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,560
actually have a slideshow with different

682
00:25:29,240 --> 00:25:34,320
events coming up. Like, you know, for

683
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:36,160
our programming, that's what we do.

684
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:39,080
And instead, they just kind of have a

685
00:25:36,160 --> 00:25:41,240
static which, you know, that's their

686
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:45,160
decision. Maybe it doesn't use as much

687
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:47,000
bandwidth, but you know, it's a pretty

688
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:50,280
um

689
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:53,920
pretty bit um pretty long uh scroll here

690
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:56,480
to get to anything that even is timely.

691
00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:56,480
You know?

692
00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:00,920
So, it it's unfortunate that this just

693
00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:03,280
this is what you come up to and

694
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:05,760
nothing's going on here. This would be a

695
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,200
great space to put, say, Disability

696
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:11,320
Pride Month,

697
00:26:07,200 --> 00:26:13,760
Grafton um Night Out, Grafton celebrates

698
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:16,200
the end of August. You know, it would be

699
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:19,160
interesting, but that's not my

700
00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:20,400
» And then the ADA anniversary. So,

701
00:26:19,160 --> 00:26:24,960
» Because

702
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:24,960
this is our website, it just has this.

703
00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,640
You know, so we don't really even get a

704
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:31,280
lot to do um

705
00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:32,640
a lot of room to play with. So, anyways,

706
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,960
I'm just sharing that.

707
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,320
» Do you know do you know one way or the

708
00:26:33,960 --> 00:26:38,000
other, and Tracy, maybe you may know

709
00:26:36,320 --> 00:26:39,480
being in town hall,

710
00:26:38,000 --> 00:26:41,720
um

711
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:43,520
whether those can be interchanged

712
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:46,400
without much fuss?

713
00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:49,440
» I believe it's page-by-page, so my

714
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:52,400
landing page is a little different.

715
00:26:49,440 --> 00:26:54,560
Um it shows, I think, uh a building in

716
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:57,280
the common.

717
00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:59,160
What would ideally you like to see?

718
00:26:57,280 --> 00:27:01,240
Would you like it to be scrolling

719
00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:03,960
photos?

720
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:05,760
» No, uh scrolling slides, like digital

721
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,400
slides, so that there's different things

722
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:10,480
that are coming through.

723
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:11,920
If each slide contained a graphic um or

724
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,960
a photo, that would be great, but at

725
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:16,280
some point we're going to have to make

726
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,560
sure that's all accessible.

727
00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:19,040
Um

728
00:27:16,560 --> 00:27:21,000
» So, this is mine. This is my photo. So,

729
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:22,320
you have a different photo than me. On a

730
00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:24,720
landing page.

731
00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:26,720
» And they all And it looks like they all

732
00:27:24,720 --> 00:27:28,400
um

733
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:30,760
Yeah, it looks like whatever time you

734
00:27:28,400 --> 00:27:33,240
log in at, that's the photo you get, so

735
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:35,720
it can be very random.

736
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:38,480
» Okay, so you're looking for slides

737
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:39,400
sliding through at the top here.

738
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:43,080
» Yeah.

739
00:27:39,400 --> 00:27:46,160
» Okay. And what would you want the slides

740
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:48,360
to show?

741
00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:52,400
» Well, it depending on what their what

742
00:27:48,360 --> 00:27:55,000
their design is, if they had four

743
00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:56,360
you know, the next town meeting is, the

744
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,320
Grafton You know, like you know, you

745
00:27:56,360 --> 00:27:59,800
just have the upcoming events, but this

746
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,760
month is

747
00:27:59,800 --> 00:28:03,640
like we could have had the um parade

748
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:06,400
information for

749
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:08,600
the 4th of July. I mean, I I I feel like

750
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:10,040
they're missing an opportunity to use

751
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,600
that space

752
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:13,800
um

753
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:16,000
to really promote Grafton instead of

754
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:19,080
these pictures that just

755
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:22,320
um are static and there's not even an

756
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:24,680
explanation. This is Grafton's new

757
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,680
uh municipal building or whatever it is,

758
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,360
you know.

759
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,920
So, Sarah, you're the communications

760
00:28:27,360 --> 00:28:31,000
person, you probably know web design

761
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:34,080
much better than I do, but

762
00:28:31,000 --> 00:28:36,840
um it's just

763
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:39,160
it it's just hard to see something

764
00:28:36,840 --> 00:28:41,640
I'll be honest with you, stay the same

765
00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:45,240
since we got the new website. So, this

766
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:49,520
is old in media terms. Like it not

767
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:51,400
rotate and keep things fresh. Um

768
00:28:49,520 --> 00:28:55,480
it, you know, but maybe that's their

769
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,880
goal. So, I don't want to be too um

770
00:28:55,480 --> 00:28:58,000
uh quick

771
00:28:55,880 --> 00:29:00,600
» Yeah, and it just depends on um you

772
00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,320
know, staffing and time and like how

773
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:03,640
many people actually visit the website

774
00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,760
versus like

775
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:07,000
you know, you got to think about what's

776
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,880
the

777
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:10,880
um

778
00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:12,800
you know, what's the biggest bang for

779
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:15,040
our buck here and in terms of people's

780
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:17,360
time and and effort and I I totally

781
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:19,080
understand what you're saying um and

782
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,960
that's valid, but it's possible that

783
00:29:19,080 --> 00:29:22,600
people aren't primarily getting

784
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:25,440
information about town news on the

785
00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:28,480
website. It could be mostly on Facebook.

786
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:30,880
Um I don't know. I don't know, but

787
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:35,280
that's a a potential just what I'm

788
00:29:30,880 --> 00:29:37,280
gathering from these clues that um

789
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:39,720
Yeah, so tough to say. Yeah, I'm just

790
00:29:37,280 --> 00:29:42,920
not, you know, I I can't speak on behalf

791
00:29:39,720 --> 00:29:45,000
of who's involved in running it. So.

792
00:29:42,920 --> 00:29:46,400
» Yeah, it may be the setup. So, this is

793
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:46,760
Shrewsbury's

794
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:50,200
» Yeah.

795
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:54,360
» Landing page and it may be this

796
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:55,960
um Civic Plus. Yeah. So, this Civic Plus

797
00:29:54,360 --> 00:29:59,000
layout

798
00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:59,400
may only offer uh

799
00:29:59,000 --> 00:30:02,640
» Yeah.

800
00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:04,560
» Picture, but I can absolutely

801
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:07,240
double check that.

802
00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:10,880
» And so, who would uh and would we want

803
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:13,800
to then are you saying request that um

804
00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:15,160
both Disability Pride Month and the ADA

805
00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:18,200
Anniversary

806
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:21,920
be superimposed side by side

807
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:25,440
on the town webpage or at the very least

808
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:26,920
our accessibility webpage?

809
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,640
» And and technically, you're right,

810
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,480
today's the 15th, so

811
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:32,560
» I know.

812
00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:34,880
» It's already too late, but

813
00:30:32,560 --> 00:30:35,360
something for next year to remember. And

814
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,600
as we come

815
00:30:35,360 --> 00:30:39,640
» It's it's not too late if we get it done

816
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:42,200
in the next day or two. It may seem like

817
00:30:39,640 --> 00:30:44,360
it's being announced later than we would

818
00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,320
like, but there's still 2 weeks left in

819
00:30:44,360 --> 00:30:47,040
the month.

820
00:30:45,320 --> 00:30:51,040
» And we can always really strive to get

821
00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:53,960
the um National Disability

822
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:55,800
um Awareness Month Employment Awareness

823
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,640
Month in October. That can be our next

824
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,440
target.

825
00:30:56,640 --> 00:31:01,120
» Mhm.

826
00:30:58,440 --> 00:31:03,440
So, what would we want to do and where

827
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:07,440
would we want to put it?

828
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:09,160
On and just our web page for starters?

829
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:11,640
» For starters.

830
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:13,720
» And what would we do? Would we

831
00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:16,480
I'm I'm of the opinion that if we were

832
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:17,640
to get it done ASAP

833
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:19,440
um

834
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:22,520
that even though Disability Pride Month

835
00:31:19,440 --> 00:31:24,640
is half over, that any advertising days

836
00:31:22,520 --> 00:31:29,040
are better than none.

837
00:31:24,640 --> 00:31:30,840
Um and we are also um we have time

838
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:32,160
in advance of

839
00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:34,720
the

840
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:36,960
ADA anniversary.

841
00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:39,440
So,

842
00:31:36,960 --> 00:31:43,800
do you want to pick a couple logos and

843
00:31:39,440 --> 00:31:45,800
then ask that they be put side by side

844
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:48,720
on the top of our web page?

845
00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:50,920
» Yep, I say we ask. Now, since you're a

846
00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,760
communications person, um

847
00:31:50,920 --> 00:31:55,440
can you define that a little bit because

848
00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:57,120
there's that's pretty broad. Like, can I

849
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,960
just throw something at you and you can

850
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,827
whip something up in Canva? I don't

851
00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,080
know.

852
00:31:59,827 --> 00:32:02,960
» [laughter]

853
00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:05,240
» So, I just want to take a step back. I

854
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:07,760
want to understand Are you so Oh, you

855
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,520
were directing that to me. Uh Okay.

856
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,760
Okay. Um

857
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,600
So,

858
00:32:10,760 --> 00:32:15,720
uh okay, just taking a step back, this

859
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:18,840
sounds very tactical to put a logo or an

860
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:20,960
image up on a website and I think we

861
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:22,840
need to think first about what is the

862
00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:25,440
strategy, what are the goals, and who is

863
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:28,560
the audience. So, before a tactic

864
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:30,480
happens, what would we even want What's

865
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:33,320
the purpose? What's the goal of having

866
00:32:30,480 --> 00:32:35,760
someone read this cuz it it's potential

867
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:38,080
someone wouldn't they might see oh a a

868
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:39,760
picture with colors and then not get any

869
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:41,800
value from it, not take any action, or

870
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,840
not learn anything.

871
00:32:41,800 --> 00:32:44,120
Um

872
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:46,120
So, I think

873
00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:48,480
my communication expertise is this is

874
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:50,600
actually and sorry, I'm jumping right

875
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,840
here. I think this is too tactical.

876
00:32:50,600 --> 00:32:54,760
Um and I think this is fine I think this

877
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:57,760
is a good direction, but I think we

878
00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:59,520
first need to define like what what is

879
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:03,800
the strategy, and what do we want even

880
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:03,800
people to do or learn or understand?

881
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:12,400
» I I I I understand where,

882
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:16,160
you know, exactly what you're saying. I

883
00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:18,560
I know that in the past we had discussed

884
00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:20,920
having regular

885
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:22,080
sort of a switcher roo each month.

886
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:25,680
Um

887
00:33:22,080 --> 00:33:27,640
and and sort of doing some

888
00:33:25,680 --> 00:33:31,920
planning

889
00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:31,920
of this, not just one-off.

890
00:33:33,080 --> 00:33:37,360
» So, it sounds like you we want to do a

891
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:40,040
content calendar. So, we want to have a

892
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:43,040
plan, like a a document that we can look

893
00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:45,280
ahead. So, for example, October is the

894
00:33:43,040 --> 00:33:48,040
employment um

895
00:33:45,280 --> 00:33:51,480
Oh, so thinking about, okay, in support

896
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:53,720
of that, what would we want employers to

897
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:55,840
know? What would we want employees to

898
00:33:53,720 --> 00:33:59,120
know? Yeah, it sounds like it's all

899
00:33:55,840 --> 00:34:01,120
education based. Um

900
00:33:59,120 --> 00:34:04,080
And so, that would be an opportunity for

901
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:06,160
us to maybe pull in articles, videos,

902
00:34:04,080 --> 00:34:08,600
literature, and kind of provide

903
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:12,000
supporting materials, whether that's

904
00:34:08,600 --> 00:34:14,280
linked to on the site. Um

905
00:34:12,000 --> 00:34:16,480
But yes, I think that's

906
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,800
maybe I mean, this is fine. I think

907
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:21,800
given the timing and wanting to support

908
00:34:18,800 --> 00:34:23,240
and acknowledge the anniversary and this

909
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:27,080
month. I think there's nothing wrong

910
00:34:23,240 --> 00:34:27,080
with that, but I think um

911
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:31,919
just my perspective

912
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:34,360
uh Uh, my experience doing

913
00:34:31,919 --> 00:34:36,840
kind of campaigns or anything like that

914
00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:38,200
is you you definitely plan ahead and

915
00:34:36,840 --> 00:34:39,800
think of, you know, what are supporting

916
00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,720
materials, what do you want your

917
00:34:39,800 --> 00:34:42,360
audiences to do,

918
00:34:41,720 --> 00:34:43,919
um,

919
00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,320
what do you want them to understand,

920
00:34:43,919 --> 00:34:46,919
that type of thing. So, I think we need

921
00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:48,480
to like answer those questions before we

922
00:34:46,919 --> 00:34:49,679
start jumping to,

923
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:50,560
um,

924
00:34:49,679 --> 00:34:51,520
yeah.

925
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,120
So,

926
00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:55,560
I don't want to take anything away from

927
00:34:53,120 --> 00:34:56,919
the momentum or anything. I don't, but

928
00:34:55,560 --> 00:34:58,080
» That's

929
00:34:56,919 --> 00:35:00,280
» Yeah.

930
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:03,200
» And and I know that we have discussed

931
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:05,200
this where on under the announcements

932
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:07,080
section of the

933
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:09,960
top of the meeting,

934
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:12,520
I've tried to sort of cherry-pick some

935
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:16,320
of the {quote} {unquote} uh, important

936
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:18,560
or more prominent, um, type of, um,

937
00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:20,720
recognitions throughout the year.

938
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:24,680
But, when you really look at it, there's

939
00:35:20,720 --> 00:35:26,920
probably a dozen. January is

940
00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,320
And there's a a list of a dozen. It's

941
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,680
it's

942
00:35:28,320 --> 00:35:33,240
name, um,

943
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:36,080
uh, a condition, um, an illness, or

944
00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:38,880
whatnot, where it's this month and

945
00:35:36,080 --> 00:35:40,440
there's a dozen or more. In every single

946
00:35:38,880 --> 00:35:42,760
month throughout the year,

947
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:44,560
a different color for a wristband.

948
00:35:42,760 --> 00:35:46,080
And so,

949
00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,360
you know, it

950
00:35:46,080 --> 00:35:51,520
I found myself sort of

951
00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:53,360
in an attempt to be inclusive,

952
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:56,320
the list gets so long, you know what I

953
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:58,880
mean, that it's like, okay, it it became

954
00:35:56,320 --> 00:36:00,560
almost too expansive. That it isn't just

955
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:02,120
one thing in January, one thing in

956
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:05,600
February, one thing in March. There

957
00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:05,600
could be 10, there could be 20.

958
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:10,640
So,

959
00:36:08,080 --> 00:36:13,640
» Well, wait, I believe we did have this

960
00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:15,680
discussion a couple

961
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:18,920
months ago and we were going to have

962
00:36:15,680 --> 00:36:20,600
kind of a main highlight, you know,

963
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:24,320
we're highlighting this, but there's

964
00:36:20,600 --> 00:36:24,320
others and

965
00:36:25,320 --> 00:36:29,080
I just think we

966
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:31,880
didn't quite get to it.

967
00:36:29,080 --> 00:36:33,760
And I think it's mostly public outreach,

968
00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:36,680
public awareness,

969
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:37,720
not really much more than

970
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:40,480
um

971
00:36:37,720 --> 00:36:43,480
kind of doing the best we can to

972
00:36:40,480 --> 00:36:46,240
increase our awareness. If someone calls

973
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,200
me, I can just point them

974
00:36:46,240 --> 00:36:48,560
to

975
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,360
whatever

976
00:36:48,560 --> 00:36:52,600
whatever is on our website. I think

977
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:56,280
that's really great if it's already set

978
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:58,160
up and then they can they can you know,

979
00:36:56,280 --> 00:37:00,560
if somebody calls me and says, "Oh, I'm

980
00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:02,640
interested in what's going on?" And then

981
00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:04,720
I can just send them the link. Let me

982
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,400
email you the link and then they go and

983
00:37:04,720 --> 00:37:08,800
they can they can poke around

984
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,960
themselves. But if there's not even any

985
00:37:08,800 --> 00:37:12,680
information at all

986
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:14,800
on the website,

987
00:37:12,680 --> 00:37:17,760
I think just participating, community

988
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,400
participation, and increasing

989
00:37:17,760 --> 00:37:20,760
um

990
00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:22,640
you know, the availability

991
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,000
to the public.

992
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:27,400
For us, um

993
00:37:24,000 --> 00:37:28,920
I did get a copy of a survey that

994
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,480
Shrewsbury did.

995
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:32,800
I don't know if you guys took a look at

996
00:37:30,480 --> 00:37:34,720
that. I did send that to the commission

997
00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:38,000
a little while ago.

998
00:37:34,720 --> 00:37:40,440
Um so, I can send it again and I'll

999
00:37:38,000 --> 00:37:42,480
include you, Sarah, but you know, kind

1000
00:37:40,440 --> 00:37:44,440
of um

1001
00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:48,280
what is our I guess what's our mission

1002
00:37:44,440 --> 00:37:51,520
statement? And for me, it would be if

1003
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:54,480
there's an issue, we're here. We there's

1004
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:58,640
available avenues to have your issue

1005
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:59,920
addressed and then for educational um

1006
00:37:58,640 --> 00:38:02,080
and just

1007
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:03,960
general knowledge. Say, "Oh, wow, I

1008
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:06,160
can't believe, you know, I have this

1009
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:08,640
disability and it's this disability's

1010
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:11,880
month." Type of thing, the camaraderie

1011
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:15,560
and finding common ground and um

1012
00:38:11,880 --> 00:38:17,560
recognition for the people that it's you

1013
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,600
know, their disability month. I suppose

1014
00:38:17,560 --> 00:38:20,560
that's why right you use flags, you use

1015
00:38:19,600 --> 00:38:21,360
this.

1016
00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,880
Um

1017
00:38:21,360 --> 00:38:27,040
I think that's the only it's as far as

1018
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:29,240
that and maybe somebody would reach out

1019
00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:32,200
to us and say, "Hey, there's this really

1020
00:38:29,240 --> 00:38:34,400
cool event or can I present, you know,

1021
00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:36,600
to your commission about this? I think

1022
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:39,200
this would be helpful for

1023
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:41,440
whatever disability, you know, other

1024
00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:42,320
people going through it.

1025
00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,960
You know,

1026
00:38:42,320 --> 00:38:47,600
um, I think that's

1027
00:38:43,960 --> 00:38:49,040
for me, I think that would be useful.

1028
00:38:47,600 --> 00:38:52,200
» Mhm.

1029
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:54,040
» How about um, then maybe it maybe

1030
00:38:52,200 --> 00:38:56,200
beneficial to

1031
00:38:54,040 --> 00:39:00,360
this table this for more long-term

1032
00:38:56,200 --> 00:39:02,800
planning that then could be

1033
00:39:00,360 --> 00:39:05,800
an extension of, you know, not

1034
00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:08,440
necessarily a subcommittee but um, uh,

1035
00:39:05,800 --> 00:39:10,720
Sarah, uh, couple three years ago we did

1036
00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:13,880
have a subcommittee where

1037
00:39:10,720 --> 00:39:16,960
uh, we got together and we the

1038
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:19,640
commission eventually voted on it that

1039
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:23,840
if you go on the accessibility advisory

1040
00:39:19,640 --> 00:39:26,760
commission's web this is whole um,

1041
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:28,840
column of items that have hyperlinks

1042
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:31,080
behind them. That was all the result of

1043
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:33,520
subcommittee work. Um, all these

1044
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:37,560
resources that are available and and

1045
00:39:33,520 --> 00:39:41,000
such and perhaps it may be as simple as

1046
00:39:37,560 --> 00:39:43,800
adding one more that happens to coincide

1047
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:46,280
with monthly recognitions. So, we

1048
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:49,560
wouldn't necessarily have to prominently

1049
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:52,520
put it on the web page but it could we

1050
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:54,240
could consider it as part of other, you

1051
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,880
know, part of the resources that already

1052
00:39:54,240 --> 00:39:56,880
exist.

1053
00:39:59,120 --> 00:40:04,960
So, are we in agreement then to just

1054
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:04,960
table any action on this?

1055
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:09,600
Okay.

1056
00:40:06,400 --> 00:40:11,080
» Yeah, I think so. I mean if if if I just

1057
00:40:09,600 --> 00:40:14,880
want to go I don't want to quash the

1058
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:18,320
idea of of putting that um, you know,

1059
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:20,640
July awareness month on the

1060
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:22,680
accessibility page. I think if I think

1061
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,760
that is a great idea. I just think it

1062
00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:27,200
also prompts me to think about more of

1063
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:31,080
kind of stepping back and um and I'm

1064
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:34,520
happy to Is it okay if I Like I can put

1065
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:36,880
together like an outline um that's

1066
00:40:34,520 --> 00:40:38,320
it's kind of a communications outline um

1067
00:40:36,880 --> 00:40:40,720
and then it would lead to us building a

1068
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:43,120
content calendar, but I think it it it

1069
00:40:40,720 --> 00:40:47,040
gets back to kind of back to our mission

1070
00:40:43,120 --> 00:40:48,680
statement, our kind of our goals. Um Is

1071
00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,720
that a Is that something like Would it

1072
00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:52,720
be okay if I put a draft together and it

1073
00:40:50,720 --> 00:40:54,000
would just be like and I can email it to

1074
00:40:52,720 --> 00:40:55,560
you guys and then it would be prompts

1075
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,680
for us to discuss.

1076
00:40:55,560 --> 00:40:59,640
» Right. Yeah, that would be great. The

1077
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,840
only thing we couldn't do is

1078
00:40:59,640 --> 00:41:02,880
um

1079
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:05,160
a while a quorum of us equals four and

1080
00:41:02,880 --> 00:41:07,160
we have right now three vacancies, but

1081
00:41:05,160 --> 00:41:11,440
what we couldn't do is

1082
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:13,440
um have a seri- a concurrent or a serial

1083
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:14,880
conversation

1084
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,760
outside of a posted meeting that

1085
00:41:14,880 --> 00:41:18,800
included all four of us.

1086
00:41:16,760 --> 00:41:21,520
So, it would be permissible for

1087
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:24,800
any up to three of us to sort of go back

1088
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:26,360
and forth on this, you know, um

1089
00:41:24,800 --> 00:41:28,160
you know, in between in between

1090
00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:30,840
meetings. It just couldn't

1091
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:32,280
entail what eventually would be a quorum

1092
00:41:30,840 --> 00:41:34,640
of us

1093
00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:36,560
quote unquote deliberating through a

1094
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,640
serial conversation.

1095
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:40,840
» Sure. Okay, I think we would Yeah, so

1096
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:42,400
this wouldn't I would maybe just send it

1097
00:41:40,840 --> 00:41:44,000
to you, Roger, and then we could like

1098
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,280
post it on the agenda and then we could

1099
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:47,480
just review it a day or two in advance

1100
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:49,120
and then discuss it.

1101
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:51,953
» That would be great That would be great.

1102
00:41:49,120 --> 00:41:52,960
Oh, she's She's up and running. I love

1103
00:41:51,953 --> 00:41:54,200
[laughter] it.

1104
00:41:52,960 --> 00:41:55,440
» I just did this for the Affordable

1105
00:41:54,200 --> 00:41:57,920
Housing Trust, so I'm already I'm like,

1106
00:41:55,440 --> 00:42:00,440
"Oh, yeah, my outline." I I I just I got

1107
00:41:57,920 --> 00:42:01,400
it out It's different topic, but I'm in

1108
00:42:00,440 --> 00:42:03,560
the zone.

1109
00:42:01,400 --> 00:42:05,120
» Mom- momentum. Thank you for doing that,

1110
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,160
Sharon. So, yeah, [clears throat] just

1111
00:42:05,120 --> 00:42:10,120
send that over and I'll include it

1112
00:42:07,160 --> 00:42:12,160
on the next agenda. So, I'm just

1113
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:14,640
July agenda.

1114
00:42:12,160 --> 00:42:19,080
And it's funny. I have I'm a visual guy

1115
00:42:14,640 --> 00:42:22,040
and my to-do or I have my blue highlight

1116
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:22,960
and I highlight things in blue as action

1117
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:23,760
items, so

1118
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:25,440
» Mhm.

1119
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:28,040
» Um

1120
00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,880
I'll include that on July's agenda.

1121
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:31,320
Uh

1122
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:32,680
we have a couple uh more announce two

1123
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:35,960
more announcements

1124
00:42:32,680 --> 00:42:37,960
under uh item F, the floating wheelchair

1125
00:42:35,960 --> 00:42:39,640
ribbon cutting ceremony

1126
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:42,640
which is Tuesday

1127
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:46,160
August 4th at 11:00 a.m. on Silver Lake

1128
00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:47,640
Beach. So, Grafton Rec Department

1129
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:50,360
um

1130
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:52,480
was uh accepted as a grant recipient

1131
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:54,480
through Smile Mass.

1132
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:57,160
And so, there's going to be a ribbon

1133
00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:58,240
cutting ceremony on Tuesday, August 4th

1134
00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,520
at 11:00.

1135
00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:01,840
And I actually have that on my calendar

1136
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:04,120
to attend.

1137
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:06,400
So, um

1138
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:08,480
it was interesting when you uh

1139
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,760
put the town website on there, it was

1140
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,520
prominently

1141
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:15,400
displayed in that

1142
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:17,840
you know, this I don't know if you can

1143
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,760
My camera's just kind of blurry.

1144
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:21,040
» That's good.

1145
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:22,640
» Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

1146
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,920
Anyway, but um

1147
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:27,800
so, that was really cool that uh we got

1148
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:29,480
the grant and Adam LaPoint really did a

1149
00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:32,200
great job and

1150
00:43:29,480 --> 00:43:35,120
this was I think the third attempt at

1151
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:37,760
securing this grant and so, it's been a

1152
00:43:35,120 --> 00:43:39,800
few years and um

1153
00:43:37,760 --> 00:43:41,920
so, one more piece of accessibility

1154
00:43:39,800 --> 00:43:47,360
within the recreation

1155
00:43:41,920 --> 00:43:47,360
uh s- uh space, so.

1156
00:43:48,600 --> 00:43:55,640
And the final

1157
00:43:52,720 --> 00:43:58,400
announcement Families Recover Together

1158
00:43:55,640 --> 00:44:00,560
26 and Wiffle Ball Tournament

1159
00:43:58,400 --> 00:44:04,240
which is uh not for a couple of months,

1160
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:08,080
Saturday, September 12th from 11:00

1161
00:44:04,240 --> 00:44:11,000
a.m. to 3:00 p.m. at Nelson Park.

1162
00:44:08,080 --> 00:44:13,520
And it's hosted in partnership with

1163
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:15,360
This is an acronym Miracle Mama's Inc.

1164
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:17,680
and Gap Recovery

1165
00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,960
in recognition of National Recovery

1166
00:44:17,680 --> 00:44:20,200
Month.

1167
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:22,120
And

1168
00:44:20,200 --> 00:44:24,960
the day is focusing on connection

1169
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:26,160
awareness recovery support

1170
00:44:24,960 --> 00:44:28,560
and celebrating the strength of

1171
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:31,080
individuals and families impacted by

1172
00:44:28,560 --> 00:44:34,320
substance abuse recovery. So

1173
00:44:31,080 --> 00:44:37,560
this going to be a ton of activities um

1174
00:44:34,320 --> 00:44:39,040
bouncy house face painting tie dye

1175
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,320
ice cream

1176
00:44:39,040 --> 00:44:42,680
um

1177
00:44:40,320 --> 00:44:44,520
And so the it's all centered around a

1178
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:46,280
whiffle ball tournament and there will

1179
00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:49,520
be music

1180
00:44:46,280 --> 00:44:51,520
uh recovery speakers and information

1181
00:44:49,520 --> 00:44:52,840
that will be handed out. So

1182
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,560
uh

1183
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,800
I think that's a block party I will not

1184
00:44:54,560 --> 00:44:59,000
be missing. So

1185
00:44:56,800 --> 00:44:59,000
uh

1186
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:05,320
And I included in the meeting packet

1187
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:08,000
a couple of the uh

1188
00:45:05,320 --> 00:45:08,720
flyers

1189
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:09,880
uh

1190
00:45:08,720 --> 00:45:12,280
for that

1191
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:14,360
particular event.

1192
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:16,040
So anyone else have any community

1193
00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:19,840
announcements that I

1194
00:45:16,040 --> 00:45:21,600
didn't include in the agenda?

1195
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:26,360
Okay.

1196
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:28,680
And moving on external correspondence

1197
00:45:26,360 --> 00:45:30,160
there wasn't any external correspondence

1198
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:33,520
and

1199
00:45:30,160 --> 00:45:35,240
sometimes that has been sent to me

1200
00:45:33,520 --> 00:45:37,160
but other times

1201
00:45:35,240 --> 00:45:40,000
it's been to the accessibility at

1202
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:42,680
grafton-ma.gov.

1203
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:45,240
There's also disability commission at

1204
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:48,640
grafton-ma.gov which is no longer in use

1205
00:45:45,240 --> 00:45:50,400
it flows into the accessibility web

1206
00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,480
distribution list.

1207
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:55,640
um

1208
00:45:52,480 --> 00:45:56,920
Sarah did you

1209
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:59,160
um

1210
00:45:56,920 --> 00:46:02,680
I actually sent

1211
00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:04,480
the meeting packet link out to you both

1212
00:46:02,680 --> 00:46:07,080
through

1213
00:46:04,480 --> 00:46:10,400
the accessibility

1214
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:11,920
and your personal email.

1215
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:14,880
Did you receive it twice, which would

1216
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:16,360
tell me that you are now part of the

1217
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,160
distribution list?

1218
00:46:16,360 --> 00:46:20,640
» I did get it twice. Mhm.

1219
00:46:18,160 --> 00:46:23,000
» Oh, good. All right, good. All right.

1220
00:46:20,640 --> 00:46:25,280
So, um we didn't receive anything

1221
00:46:23,000 --> 00:46:26,920
collectively, but what I end up doing is

1222
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,480
outside of the town clerk's office in

1223
00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:30,920
that little room

1224
00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,880
the mail room with a photocopier

1225
00:46:30,920 --> 00:46:35,920
» If I'm in the neighborhood, I will pop

1226
00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:38,280
into town hall and see if we've gotten

1227
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:40,880
something uh

1228
00:46:38,280 --> 00:46:42,360
you know, paper versus electronic

1229
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,400
communications, and there hasn't been

1230
00:46:42,360 --> 00:46:45,800
any for months, so.

1231
00:46:44,400 --> 00:46:47,800
And I went there just a couple of days

1232
00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:48,680
ago.

1233
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,520
Uh

1234
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,280
All right, agenda item three, meeting

1235
00:46:50,520 --> 00:46:55,680
minutes, April

1236
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:57,160
28th regular meeting.

1237
00:46:55,680 --> 00:46:58,880
And

1238
00:46:57,160 --> 00:47:01,160
I will accept a motion to approve the

1239
00:46:58,880 --> 00:47:04,560
draft minutes of our meeting of April

1240
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:04,560
28th, 2026.

1241
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:08,320
» I'll make the motion.

1242
00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,920
» All right, do I have a second?

1243
00:47:08,320 --> 00:47:11,720
» Second.

1244
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:13,880
» All right, motion made by Chrissy,

1245
00:47:11,720 --> 00:47:16,360
seconded by Tracy. Any discussion on the

1246
00:47:13,880 --> 00:47:16,360
motion?

1247
00:47:17,120 --> 00:47:20,640
All right. I have

1248
00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:24,280
one item

1249
00:47:22,560 --> 00:47:25,000
and I don't know, Chrissy, if you need

1250
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:26,320
to

1251
00:47:25,000 --> 00:47:28,200
share the screen or

1252
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:30,760
» Share them right now if you don't mind.

1253
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:32,120
That way everybody can see.

1254
00:47:30,760 --> 00:47:34,640
» Okay. All right.

1255
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,640
» Okay.

1256
00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:45,360
» Okay.

1257
00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:46,960
My only comment was um

1258
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:50,160
a grammatical

1259
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:53,160
correction on the second page

1260
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:53,160
1D

1261
00:47:53,840 --> 00:47:57,440
under announcements

1262
00:47:56,200 --> 00:48:02,840
um it

1263
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:04,440
is it's um, transposing the C and the L

1264
00:48:02,840 --> 00:48:05,880
after the word park.

1265
00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,240
» Yep.

1266
00:48:05,880 --> 00:48:11,000
I thought you were going to ding me for

1267
00:48:07,240 --> 00:48:11,000
the spelling of the word Engvall.

1268
00:48:12,440 --> 00:48:17,600
» Uh, no. I think Engvall No, I think that

1269
00:48:14,600 --> 00:48:20,120
is correct. Engvall, yeah.

1270
00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:22,520
Yeah, so that that was the only

1271
00:48:20,120 --> 00:48:23,800
item I had.

1272
00:48:22,520 --> 00:48:26,640
And uh,

1273
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:29,240
thank you once again, Christie, for

1274
00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:31,160
unbelievable minutes.

1275
00:48:29,240 --> 00:48:33,640
» I'm just looking for anything else

1276
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:35,760
that's red.

1277
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:38,120
And

1278
00:48:35,760 --> 00:48:40,520
C-C-ing. Let me just

1279
00:48:38,120 --> 00:48:43,280
Okay.

1280
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,280
Okay.

1281
00:48:44,200 --> 00:48:47,400
» Awesome.

1282
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:50,920
And the

1283
00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:50,920
other thing is um,

1284
00:48:51,720 --> 00:48:55,520
So So,

1285
00:48:53,360 --> 00:48:57,520
sorry, you

1286
00:48:55,520 --> 00:49:00,080
may not be aware of how efficient,

1287
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:02,800
organized, and resourceful Christie is,

1288
00:49:00,080 --> 00:49:06,080
but um, like literally after this

1289
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:07,960
meeting is over, very shortly after,

1290
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:09,360
you'll get the draft minutes from

1291
00:49:07,960 --> 00:49:12,480
tonight.

1292
00:49:09,360 --> 00:49:15,520
And then what, you'll be on the copy end

1293
00:49:12,480 --> 00:49:19,480
of Christie's email to the town clerk of

1294
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:20,760
the approved minutes from April. So,

1295
00:49:19,480 --> 00:49:21,800
So, Christie

1296
00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,320
» Amazing.

1297
00:49:21,800 --> 00:49:25,000
» Christie never let

1298
00:49:23,320 --> 00:49:26,440
» To get it over with.

1299
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:27,240
» Okay. [laughter]

1300
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,120
» Yep, good for you.

1301
00:49:27,240 --> 00:49:31,160
» I do not let it sit.

1302
00:49:29,120 --> 00:49:32,080
» You not ever leave us. Do not ever leave

1303
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:32,424
us.

1304
00:49:32,080 --> 00:49:32,960
Um,

1305
00:49:32,424 --> 00:49:35,960
» [laughter]

1306
00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:37,400
» And uh, I I just wanted to

1307
00:49:35,960 --> 00:49:39,560
They used to be part of the open meeting

1308
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:42,160
law, which is no longer.

1309
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:44,560
Uh, Sarah, that um,

1310
00:49:42,160 --> 00:49:45,760
you can choose to abstain, but you don't

1311
00:49:44,560 --> 00:49:46,560
have to.

1312
00:49:45,760 --> 00:49:49,200
Um,

1313
00:49:46,560 --> 00:49:51,520
you are allowed to actually vote on the

1314
00:49:49,200 --> 00:49:54,440
on any minutes of

1315
00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:55,760
any draft minutes for which you weren't

1316
00:49:54,440 --> 00:49:58,680
present.

1317
00:49:55,760 --> 00:50:00,480
Uh that used to be a no-no, but um

1318
00:49:58,680 --> 00:50:04,360
it was preventing

1319
00:50:00,480 --> 00:50:07,360
as committees change, it prevented

1320
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:09,800
a quorum from ever approving some older

1321
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:12,000
minutes. So, they realized that that was

1322
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:14,200
probably not the greatest idea.

1323
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:16,600
Um and so, it just to let you know, you

1324
00:50:14,200 --> 00:50:17,640
can either abstain or vote yay or nay on

1325
00:50:16,600 --> 00:50:21,000
those.

1326
00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:22,600
So, um any other discussion on the

1327
00:50:21,000 --> 00:50:25,480
motion to approve the draft minutes of

1328
00:50:22,600 --> 00:50:25,480
April 28th?

1329
00:50:25,760 --> 00:50:30,240
All right, hearing none, all those in

1330
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:32,280
favor by roll call.

1331
00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:33,840
Um

1332
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:35,200
Christie.

1333
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:35,960
» Yes.

1334
00:50:35,200 --> 00:50:37,320
» Tracy.

1335
00:50:35,960 --> 00:50:38,160
» I.

1336
00:50:37,320 --> 00:50:39,560
» Sarah.

1337
00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:41,280
» I.

1338
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,520
» Roger, I declare the motion carried

1339
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:46,920
unanimously 4-0.

1340
00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:47,750
Awesome. Our first vote. Yeah.

1341
00:50:46,920 --> 00:50:48,480
All right.

1342
00:50:47,750 --> 00:50:51,680
» [clears throat]

1343
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:52,120
» You are now officially in.

1344
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:54,080
» [laughter]

1345
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,680
» That that that's that's the hazing.

1346
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:56,240
That's it.

1347
00:50:54,680 --> 00:50:57,560
» We're making things happen.

1348
00:50:56,240 --> 00:50:58,920
» Yep.

1349
00:50:57,560 --> 00:51:01,920
So, um

1350
00:50:58,920 --> 00:51:04,520
All right, moving forward, um

1351
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:09,040
US Department of Justice memorandum, how

1352
00:51:04,520 --> 00:51:10,440
is Roger or why is Roger included

1353
00:51:09,040 --> 00:51:12,600
national

1354
00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:14,280
US Department of Justice items into a

1355
00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:17,360
local

1356
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:20,200
advisory committee meeting. Here's why.

1357
00:51:17,360 --> 00:51:22,120
And I actually had

1358
00:51:20,200 --> 00:51:24,040
made note of this, and it it

1359
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,760
kind of snuck by

1360
00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,840
all things Grafton

1361
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:29,680
because I was announcing basically an

1362
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:31,720
agenda item.

1363
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:34,320
And

1364
00:51:31,720 --> 00:51:36,040
within this a

1365
00:51:34,320 --> 00:51:39,480
I put on the agenda the scope of

1366
00:51:36,040 --> 00:51:41,120
Olmstead versus L.C. decision

1367
00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:43,040
regarding individuals with mental

1368
00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:44,360
disabilities having a right to live in

1369
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:46,160
the community rather than in

1370
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:48,680
institutions.

1371
00:51:46,160 --> 00:51:51,480
And

1372
00:51:48,680 --> 00:51:53,560
what I ended up doing is and and this

1373
00:51:51,480 --> 00:51:55,920
maybe was a bit random

1374
00:51:53,560 --> 00:51:59,640
in the meeting packet

1375
00:51:55,920 --> 00:52:01,480
the the Arc Massachusetts nonprofit

1376
00:51:59,640 --> 00:52:04,440
had a uh

1377
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:05,840
it's the Arc of Mass.org

1378
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,680
had a

1379
00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:08,920
three-page summary

1380
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:12,600
of

1381
00:52:08,920 --> 00:52:13,520
what you know, how this all came about.

1382
00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:16,320
Uh

1383
00:52:13,520 --> 00:52:18,800
there was a Supreme Court ruling

1384
00:52:16,320 --> 00:52:18,800
um

1385
00:52:19,360 --> 00:52:22,840
should know what year it was.

1386
00:52:23,480 --> 00:52:28,120
1999

1387
00:52:26,040 --> 00:52:30,920
and that ruled that unnecessary

1388
00:52:28,120 --> 00:52:33,000
institutionalization is discrimination

1389
00:52:30,920 --> 00:52:34,840
under ADA.

1390
00:52:33,000 --> 00:52:36,440
And the court at that time held that

1391
00:52:34,840 --> 00:52:38,320
people with disabilities had the right

1392
00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:41,000
to receive services in the most

1393
00:52:38,320 --> 00:52:43,040
integrated setting appropriate

1394
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:45,200
to their individual needs and there were

1395
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:48,080
three things uh when community-based

1396
00:52:45,200 --> 00:52:50,400
services were appropriate

1397
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:52,680
that the person wants to receive

1398
00:52:50,400 --> 00:52:54,480
services in the community and that the

1399
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:56,280
community placement can be reasonably

1400
00:52:54,480 --> 00:52:58,960
accommodated.

1401
00:52:56,280 --> 00:52:58,960
And

1402
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:05,120
what happened in June of 26, just last

1403
00:53:04,080 --> 00:53:07,160
month

1404
00:53:05,120 --> 00:53:09,080
is that the DOJ uh

1405
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:11,000
DOJ Department of Justice Office of

1406
00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:13,320
Legal Counsel

1407
00:53:11,000 --> 00:53:15,760
issued a legal opinion that actually

1408
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:18,480
narrowed how the federal government

1409
00:53:15,760 --> 00:53:20,880
interpreted and enforced

1410
00:53:18,480 --> 00:53:22,280
Olmstead and the ADA.

1411
00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:25,400
And

1412
00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:27,840
the DOJ basically argued that the ADA

1413
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:30,840
did not broadly require states

1414
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:33,480
to provide community-based services

1415
00:53:30,840 --> 00:53:35,200
through an integration mandate

1416
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:36,760
and suggested that states have greater

1417
00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:39,720
flexibility to determine when

1418
00:53:36,760 --> 00:53:42,280
institutional settings are appropriate.

1419
00:53:39,720 --> 00:53:42,280
Um

1420
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:46,760
leading to my final point, which all of

1421
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:48,320
these points I lifted from the ARC

1422
00:53:46,760 --> 00:53:49,760
summary,

1423
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:52,120
that

1424
00:53:49,760 --> 00:53:54,880
the Olmstead decision remained a binding

1425
00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:57,400
uh law. However, the DOJ opinion may

1426
00:53:54,880 --> 00:53:59,280
change how aggressively the federal

1427
00:53:57,400 --> 00:54:01,520
government investigates and enforces

1428
00:53:59,280 --> 00:54:03,080
integration requirements.

1429
00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:05,880
And that there was a concern that this

1430
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:08,240
could make it more difficult to uh

1431
00:54:05,880 --> 00:54:09,680
to protect community living rights. And

1432
00:54:08,240 --> 00:54:11,320
and so

1433
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:14,240
um

1434
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:16,920
the extent to which we're an advisory

1435
00:54:14,240 --> 00:54:22,120
commission to the select board,

1436
00:54:16,920 --> 00:54:24,840
and we are in that capacity focusing on

1437
00:54:22,120 --> 00:54:25,880
the greater community, which includes

1438
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,520
um

1439
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,200
community living environments, including

1440
00:54:27,520 --> 00:54:31,880
group homes,

1441
00:54:29,200 --> 00:54:33,200
that uh or public housing or other

1442
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,520
settings

1443
00:54:33,200 --> 00:54:37,160
that in yesteryear

1444
00:54:35,520 --> 00:54:38,160
would have been

1445
00:54:37,160 --> 00:54:39,880
um

1446
00:54:38,160 --> 00:54:42,120
maybe even a forced institution

1447
00:54:39,880 --> 00:54:43,720
institutionalization.

1448
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:46,040
Um

1449
00:54:43,720 --> 00:54:50,200
I I think we've come too far,

1450
00:54:46,040 --> 00:54:52,440
and that there could be if if we

1451
00:54:50,200 --> 00:54:53,960
if we were to slip back to the sort of

1452
00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:56,200
old model,

1453
00:54:53,960 --> 00:54:57,640
there could be people uh numerous people

1454
00:54:56,200 --> 00:55:00,320
within the Grafton community in

1455
00:54:57,640 --> 00:55:03,520
different uh housing settings

1456
00:55:00,320 --> 00:55:05,680
uh that could be impacted. And so

1457
00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:08,120
I wanted to

1458
00:55:05,680 --> 00:55:08,840
at least bring it to the attention of

1459
00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:11,600
the

1460
00:55:08,840 --> 00:55:12,920
commission and to the public through our

1461
00:55:11,600 --> 00:55:15,960
meeting

1462
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:20,480
that this national issue

1463
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:22,640
and you know, this 19 1999

1464
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:25,400
uh Supreme Court decision

1465
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:27,680
now 27 years later gets kind of turned

1466
00:55:25,400 --> 00:55:29,440
on its ear

1467
00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:31,840
through a DOJ

1468
00:55:29,440 --> 00:55:33,960
ruling that says, "Well, yeah, that's

1469
00:55:31,840 --> 00:55:35,680
not really how it should be

1470
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:39,360
interpreted."

1471
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:41,440
And then we go back to this model where

1472
00:55:39,360 --> 00:55:43,480
somehow institutionalization is the

1473
00:55:41,440 --> 00:55:46,440
default versus

1474
00:55:43,480 --> 00:55:47,720
community housing when appropriate.

1475
00:55:46,440 --> 00:55:50,240
So,

1476
00:55:47,720 --> 00:55:52,800
that's my spiel. So,

1477
00:55:50,240 --> 00:55:56,520
I'll sort of open open it up to any

1478
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:58,720
comments or impressions regarding um

1479
00:55:56,520 --> 00:56:01,640
this particular agenda item and the the

1480
00:55:58,720 --> 00:56:01,640
meeting packet.

1481
00:56:09,000 --> 00:56:12,600
Don't all jump in at once.

1482
00:56:10,668 --> 00:56:13,920
» [laughter]

1483
00:56:12,600 --> 00:56:16,080
» Um

1484
00:56:13,920 --> 00:56:18,440
» Thank you for the information. I think

1485
00:56:16,080 --> 00:56:18,720
we'll have to kind of digest that and

1486
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:19,600
see

1487
00:56:18,720 --> 00:56:20,920
» Yeah. I know.

1488
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,760
» Opinions.

1489
00:56:20,920 --> 00:56:23,360
Um

1490
00:56:21,760 --> 00:56:24,360
» Yeah.

1491
00:56:23,360 --> 00:56:25,120
» Yeah, it's

1492
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:28,320
» No, that's fine.

1493
00:56:25,120 --> 00:56:31,080
» It's a challenging topic.

1494
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:33,560
» It it really is because um and it can be

1495
00:56:31,080 --> 00:56:36,440
an emotionally charged topic, you know,

1496
00:56:33,560 --> 00:56:39,360
um as well. Um

1497
00:56:36,440 --> 00:56:41,720
So, I just wanted to at least throw it

1498
00:56:39,360 --> 00:56:44,320
out there that

1499
00:56:41,720 --> 00:56:47,840
that um maybe to be a little bit

1500
00:56:44,320 --> 00:56:50,200
provocative, too, that we also in in

1501
00:56:47,840 --> 00:56:52,800
expansive of what some people may

1502
00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:55,200
consider our role as a commission.

1503
00:56:52,800 --> 00:56:57,160
I know that I had thrown um

1504
00:56:55,200 --> 00:57:00,160
on the agenda various housing issues in

1505
00:56:57,160 --> 00:57:02,920
the past regarding

1506
00:57:00,160 --> 00:57:05,680
you know, accessible and adaptable uh

1507
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,600
apartments within multi-family housing.

1508
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,520
Um

1509
00:57:06,600 --> 00:57:11,200
You know, when when are elevators

1510
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:13,080
required, you know, uh

1511
00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:15,280
you know, four stories and above, those

1512
00:57:13,080 --> 00:57:16,880
types of things. So,

1513
00:57:15,280 --> 00:57:19,560
um

1514
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:23,000
I'm kind of

1515
00:57:19,560 --> 00:57:26,120
bringing in sort of um

1516
00:57:23,000 --> 00:57:28,160
more items than maybe

1517
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:31,240
other accessibility advisory commissions

1518
00:57:28,160 --> 00:57:32,320
may consider to be sort of local issues.

1519
00:57:31,240 --> 00:57:34,680
Um

1520
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:36,360
but in the end even Supreme Court

1521
00:57:34,680 --> 00:57:39,160
decisions have

1522
00:57:36,360 --> 00:57:41,480
by and large risen out of local issues.

1523
00:57:39,160 --> 00:57:43,520
Like almost every single one of them is

1524
00:57:41,480 --> 00:57:45,800
some impacted individual who says, "Wait

1525
00:57:43,520 --> 00:57:48,880
a minute. I think I've been wronged, you

1526
00:57:45,800 --> 00:57:50,240
know?" It goes all the way to the top.

1527
00:57:48,880 --> 00:57:51,720
And um

1528
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,840
and so

1529
00:57:51,720 --> 00:57:57,880
I figured I'd throw it out there

1530
00:57:53,840 --> 00:58:00,360
uh for everyone to to digest. Um

1531
00:57:57,880 --> 00:58:02,360
It's I certainly don't expect this to be

1532
00:58:00,360 --> 00:58:05,240
an action item tonight.

1533
00:58:02,360 --> 00:58:07,320
But I wanted to at least call it to

1534
00:58:05,240 --> 00:58:09,640
everyone's attention.

1535
00:58:07,320 --> 00:58:09,640
So.

1536
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:15,640
» Yeah, I I think this is great. I don't

1537
00:58:12,160 --> 00:58:18,000
have um I mean, yes, it's a complicated

1538
00:58:15,640 --> 00:58:19,160
topic and um

1539
00:58:18,000 --> 00:58:20,640
it's something

1540
00:58:19,160 --> 00:58:24,440
I definitely need to learn more about

1541
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:27,080
specifically. But I appreciate and I

1542
00:58:24,440 --> 00:58:29,200
understand what you're doing is as an

1543
00:58:27,080 --> 00:58:32,840
accessibility commission, we should be

1544
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:34,840
aware of larger things happening because

1545
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,680
yes, it feels like, "Oh, it's a Supreme

1546
00:58:34,840 --> 00:58:40,520
Court decision." But that ultimately

1547
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:43,440
impacts everyone. Um or you know, it it

1548
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:44,600
it will have an have an impact. So, it's

1549
00:58:43,440 --> 00:58:48,800
I think it's

1550
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:51,960
it's nice for us. It's a good motivation

1551
00:58:48,800 --> 00:58:54,560
or like a good push for us to be in the

1552
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:57,040
know and aware of what are these things

1553
00:58:54,560 --> 00:58:58,960
happening nationally, even potentially

1554
00:58:57,040 --> 00:59:00,080
globally, even for inspiration. You

1555
00:58:58,960 --> 00:59:02,880
know, what are some cool things

1556
00:59:00,080 --> 00:59:07,240
happening all around the world um

1557
00:59:02,880 --> 00:59:09,200
that could potentially influence or just

1558
00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:12,400
help us feel more informed as kind of

1559
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:14,080
accessibility experts as we're you know,

1560
00:59:12,400 --> 00:59:15,080
growing into that. Mhm.

1561
00:59:14,080 --> 00:59:16,720
» Right.

1562
00:59:15,080 --> 00:59:19,080
Right, cool.

1563
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:21,240
All right. Um

1564
00:59:19,080 --> 00:59:23,800
Yeah, there's a lot of reading to do.

1565
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:27,160
So, I I you know, we we never know

1566
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:29,800
everything, but I try to

1567
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:31,880
sort of do as much reading as possible

1568
00:59:29,800 --> 00:59:33,440
on pertinent things.

1569
00:59:31,880 --> 00:59:34,480
Kind of I'm that nerd that will go on

1570
00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:36,880
and start browsing through the

1571
00:59:34,480 --> 00:59:38,680
Massachusetts Office on Disabilities,

1572
00:59:36,880 --> 00:59:39,960
you know, website.

1573
00:59:38,680 --> 00:59:41,520
See what's going on because there are

1574
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:43,640
things that are pertinent to what we do

1575
00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:44,800
in the greater community, so

1576
00:59:43,640 --> 00:59:46,480
um

1577
00:59:44,800 --> 00:59:49,040
All right, moving forward to old

1578
00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:50,760
business. Um

1579
00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:52,120
Annual town meeting.

1580
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:54,120
Um

1581
00:59:52,120 --> 00:59:56,840
Yeah, back on May 11th,

1582
00:59:54,120 --> 00:59:58,320
town meeting voted to appropriate 90,000

1583
00:59:56,840 --> 01:00:00,640
in community preservation funds for the

1584
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:02,320
feasibility and concept study

1585
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:04,600
regarding the Blackstone Valley

1586
01:00:02,320 --> 01:00:07,000
Walkway/Bikeway.

1587
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:09,040
And I spoke in favor of that as we had

1588
01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:12,360
done um

1589
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:15,800
in advance, we had talked about uh

1590
01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:17,800
and I had included, after the fact,

1591
01:00:15,800 --> 01:00:20,680
the letter that I wrote

1592
01:00:17,800 --> 01:00:23,000
on behalf of um

1593
01:00:20,680 --> 01:00:25,480
Accessibility Advisory Commission to uh

1594
01:00:23,000 --> 01:00:28,640
Community Preservation Committee.

1595
01:00:25,480 --> 01:00:30,360
Um so, that was formalized and then I

1596
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:32,400
spoke in front of town meeting

1597
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:34,720
in favor of that and it passed

1598
01:00:32,400 --> 01:00:35,280
overwhelmingly and so

1599
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:37,640
uh

1600
01:00:35,280 --> 01:00:42,120
I actually look forward to any expansion

1601
01:00:37,640 --> 01:00:44,120
of that uh walkway/bikeway because it's

1602
01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:46,520
as we discussed previously, it adds more

1603
01:00:44,120 --> 01:00:48,560
accessible space, so.

1604
01:00:46,520 --> 01:00:51,120
Um

1605
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:53,880
All right, under old business, um oh

1606
01:00:51,120 --> 01:00:56,160
god, this one. 5B outstanding meeting

1607
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,800
minutes, we we had started to chip away.

1608
01:00:56,160 --> 01:00:59,640
Thank you, Kristy, for the ones you got

1609
01:00:57,800 --> 01:01:01,600
to the town clerk.

1610
01:00:59,640 --> 01:01:04,160
I'm going to have to look at these.

1611
01:01:01,600 --> 01:01:06,760
These were all during 2020.

1612
01:01:04,160 --> 01:01:08,480
And I'm pretty sure that there weren't

1613
01:01:06,760 --> 01:01:09,800
any meeting minutes that we didn't

1614
01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:12,120
approve.

1615
01:01:09,800 --> 01:01:15,640
And I think out of these six dates that

1616
01:01:12,120 --> 01:01:17,880
I had listed for 2020,

1617
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:19,840
the under the town clerk's webpage, five

1618
01:01:17,880 --> 01:01:21,840
of those six dates have little uh

1619
01:01:19,840 --> 01:01:24,520
television icon,

1620
01:01:21,840 --> 01:01:25,800
which means that those were televised.

1621
01:01:24,520 --> 01:01:29,120
So,

1622
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:30,680
um I'm going to have to I I I've put

1623
01:01:29,120 --> 01:01:32,920
this as a placeholder so I wouldn't

1624
01:01:30,680 --> 01:01:36,160
forget it. So, I'm going to have to go

1625
01:01:32,920 --> 01:01:39,080
back and and check it out because

1626
01:01:36,160 --> 01:01:39,920
the Attorney General's office routinely

1627
01:01:39,080 --> 01:01:42,160
um

1628
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:45,440
reminds, and I'll use that term gently

1629
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:48,160
reminds, town clerks to

1630
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:50,360
be up to speed on all committees that

1631
01:01:48,160 --> 01:01:51,880
have posted an agenda

1632
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:54,080
did they meet? And if you did, where are

1633
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:55,880
the minutes? So,

1634
01:01:54,080 --> 01:01:59,480
uh

1635
01:01:55,880 --> 01:02:01,760
All right, town survey, old business 5c.

1636
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:04,520
Um

1637
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:06,600
I don't know.

1638
01:02:04,520 --> 01:02:08,680
I don't recall where we left off on

1639
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:11,040
this. I know Tracy, you had um been in

1640
01:02:08,680 --> 01:02:13,760
touch with Shrewsbury.

1641
01:02:11,040 --> 01:02:16,720
I know that

1642
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:19,160
um without getting into details yet

1643
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:21,080
about what a survey would look like, at

1644
01:02:19,160 --> 01:02:24,040
the last

1645
01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:25,720
select board meeting,

1646
01:02:24,040 --> 01:02:28,800
it was mentioned that what's this, a

1647
01:02:25,720 --> 01:02:30,120
SurveyMonkey or one of those

1648
01:02:28,800 --> 01:02:31,240
sites

1649
01:02:30,120 --> 01:02:34,320
is

1650
01:02:31,240 --> 01:02:36,880
set up to do those types of things.

1651
01:02:34,320 --> 01:02:38,720
Where did we leave that

1652
01:02:36,880 --> 01:02:41,640
as an action item?

1653
01:02:38,720 --> 01:02:41,640
Anyone recall?

1654
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:45,400
Was I supposed to do something? Tracy,

1655
01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:47,280
you had

1656
01:02:45,400 --> 01:02:48,920
you had contacted Shrewsbury. How did we

1657
01:02:47,280 --> 01:02:50,320
leave it? Because we

1658
01:02:48,920 --> 01:02:52,680
there was a few meetings where we didn't

1659
01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:54,840
have quorum, so we haven't discussed

1660
01:02:52,680 --> 01:02:57,720
this in a few months.

1661
01:02:54,840 --> 01:03:02,320
» I emailed the survey questions. I

1662
01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:05,200
received the copy, and I think it was

1663
01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:07,120
Google. Let me just take a peek.

1664
01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:09,280
I sent it over.

1665
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,280
Um

1666
01:03:10,200 --> 01:03:14,440
And I sent it to the commission's

1667
01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:17,160
email. I believe

1668
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:18,760
» One a point.

1669
01:03:17,160 --> 01:03:21,840
» I'll tell you the date.

1670
01:03:18,760 --> 01:03:21,840
» Sorry, yeah, please.

1671
01:03:26,160 --> 01:03:31,160
Get out my blue marker again and

1672
01:03:28,360 --> 01:03:33,200
put it as an action item to

1673
01:03:31,160 --> 01:03:36,160
» It was just kind of like, okay, what did

1674
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:36,160
they ask?

1675
01:03:41,640 --> 01:03:47,280
» Was it um short and sweet? Is that the

1676
01:03:44,720 --> 01:03:50,400
sort of um

1677
01:03:47,280 --> 01:03:53,640
uh approach that works? Don't overload

1678
01:03:50,400 --> 01:03:53,640
people with too much.

1679
01:03:55,720 --> 01:03:59,840
» Uh 5:27:26,

1680
01:03:58,200 --> 01:04:01,800
I said below are the questions from

1681
01:03:59,840 --> 01:04:03,920
Shrewsbury. Let's review for the next

1682
01:04:01,800 --> 01:04:05,520
meeting. So, I sent it to you personally

1683
01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:08,160
plus the commission.

1684
01:04:05,520 --> 01:04:10,600
And um

1685
01:04:08,160 --> 01:04:12,000
if you wanted, I can share it right now

1686
01:04:10,600 --> 01:04:13,000
on my screen.

1687
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:13,240
» Yeah, could you?

1688
01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:15,280
» Yeah.

1689
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:16,360
» Yeah, I that slipped me to include in

1690
01:04:15,280 --> 01:04:18,880
the meeting packet.

1691
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,880
» It's okay.

1692
01:04:26,960 --> 01:04:31,040
Okay.

1693
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:31,040
Um

1694
01:04:31,520 --> 01:04:34,320
So,

1695
01:04:39,280 --> 01:04:42,480
I'm trying to

1696
01:04:40,760 --> 01:04:45,400
move this

1697
01:04:42,480 --> 01:04:45,400
so I can see.

1698
01:04:49,040 --> 01:04:50,960
» All right,

1699
01:04:50,040 --> 01:04:51,880
it's now.

1700
01:04:50,960 --> 01:04:52,920
» Can you see?

1701
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:55,440
» This. Yeah.

1702
01:04:52,920 --> 01:04:55,440
» Okay.

1703
01:04:56,040 --> 01:05:00,320
And I

1704
01:04:57,800 --> 01:05:02,760
and he actually I think changed all the

1705
01:05:00,320 --> 01:05:03,600
words for me

1706
01:05:02,760 --> 01:05:07,080
he

1707
01:05:03,600 --> 01:05:07,080
to town of Grafton.

1708
01:05:08,800 --> 01:05:14,000
» How many questions are there total?

1709
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:18,560
» Uh and he used Google Suite.

1710
01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:18,560
Um, there are 10 questions.

1711
01:05:18,760 --> 01:05:21,080
» Okay.

1712
01:05:21,960 --> 01:05:25,520
» About you.

1713
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:30,840
Accessibility of town services. How

1714
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:32,120
accessible do you find the following in

1715
01:05:30,840 --> 01:05:35,240
Grafton?

1716
01:05:32,120 --> 01:05:37,400
That could be interesting.

1717
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:41,840
Sidewalks, public buildings, park

1718
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:41,840
wrecks, town website.

1719
01:05:43,160 --> 01:05:46,400
Public restrooms.

1720
01:05:46,760 --> 01:05:51,080
And then if there's a challenge, kind of

1721
01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:53,840
identifying the shortfalls of

1722
01:05:51,080 --> 01:05:56,880
accessibility within the town, and maybe

1723
01:05:53,840 --> 01:05:58,120
getting feedback from people going

1724
01:05:56,880 --> 01:05:59,640
through it, you know, having the

1725
01:05:58,120 --> 01:06:02,040
challenge.

1726
01:05:59,640 --> 01:06:02,040
» Okay.

1727
01:06:03,320 --> 01:06:06,960
» Which of the following services or

1728
01:06:04,880 --> 01:06:09,800
supports would be helpful to you or your

1729
01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,800
family?

1730
01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:18,960
Do you feel informed about

1731
01:06:16,840 --> 01:06:21,920
disability-related resources available

1732
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:21,920
through the town?

1733
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:26,520
And how would you prefer to receive

1734
01:06:23,640 --> 01:06:28,840
updates or information?

1735
01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:32,120
Sarah must be loving this.

1736
01:06:28,840 --> 01:06:32,120
All the communication.

1737
01:06:33,800 --> 01:06:37,000
One thing the town could do better. I

1738
01:06:35,360 --> 01:06:39,320
mean, even if

1739
01:06:37,000 --> 01:06:42,160
a person answered one of the questions

1740
01:06:39,320 --> 01:06:44,320
or one and set of questions,

1741
01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:46,920
I think it would be helpful.

1742
01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:48,720
» Awesome. So, how many did they When When

1743
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:50,720
did they do the survey and how many

1744
01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:53,760
responses did they get?

1745
01:06:50,720 --> 01:06:55,520
Like, how in what manner was it, um,

1746
01:06:53,760 --> 01:06:58,080
put forth to the community? And are

1747
01:06:55,520 --> 01:06:59,920
these like editable docs? Like, and then

1748
01:06:58,080 --> 01:07:01,640
you go next, next, next, and then fill

1749
01:06:59,920 --> 01:07:03,280
them in, and then submit. Is that how it

1750
01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:06,840
works?

1751
01:07:03,280 --> 01:07:09,720
» So, it was

1752
01:07:06,840 --> 01:07:12,000
we could use Google Suite. That's what

1753
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:14,680
Shrewsbury uses.

1754
01:07:12,000 --> 01:07:16,600
You can paste this in the prompt box

1755
01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:20,440
when creating a new Google form. It

1756
01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:23,760
should format it perfectly for you.

1757
01:07:20,440 --> 01:07:26,280
And then what we had seen at a previous

1758
01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:28,600
meeting maybe last year,

1759
01:07:26,280 --> 01:07:30,120
um they actually had it on their

1760
01:07:28,600 --> 01:07:32,360
homepage

1761
01:07:30,120 --> 01:07:34,320
and click for the survey

1762
01:07:32,360 --> 01:07:37,160
to take the survey.

1763
01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:42,680
And I cannot remember, I believe they

1764
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:42,680
did publish their numbers.

1765
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:47,600
Let me see if I can

1766
01:07:45,640 --> 01:07:51,560
find it.

1767
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:51,560
And the results of the survey.

1768
01:07:58,800 --> 01:08:03,960
» And this was Shrewsbury's Yes.

1769
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:04,240
Commission that initiated this and ran

1770
01:08:03,960 --> 01:08:04,960
it?

1771
01:08:04,240 --> 01:08:05,840
» Mhm.

1772
01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:06,960
» Mhm.

1773
01:08:05,840 --> 01:08:09,640
» They have

1774
01:08:06,960 --> 01:08:10,600
» Last last spring they did this.

1775
01:08:09,640 --> 01:08:12,280
» Okay.

1776
01:08:10,600 --> 01:08:16,400
» I lost April.

1777
01:08:12,280 --> 01:08:18,240
» I have lost track of time.

1778
01:08:16,400 --> 01:08:18,920
» Well, that's okay. We kept kicking the

1779
01:08:18,240 --> 01:08:21,279
can down

1780
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:22,000
» You're you're saying 2025?

1781
01:08:21,279 --> 01:08:22,920
» Yeah.

1782
01:08:22,000 --> 01:08:24,839
» Okay.

1783
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:26,279
» They they did it I want to say they did

1784
01:08:24,839 --> 01:08:29,640
it in the spring, so it must have been

1785
01:08:26,279 --> 01:08:29,640
spring of 2025.

1786
01:08:33,080 --> 01:08:36,080
» That's fantastic. I mean, some of the

1787
01:08:34,440 --> 01:08:38,440
find not directly, but some of those

1788
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:41,040
findings would be relevant for us, too.

1789
01:08:38,440 --> 01:08:42,440
I've just kind of general concerns and

1790
01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:43,440
» Mhm.

1791
01:08:42,440 --> 01:08:45,720
» They would just be actually really

1792
01:08:43,440 --> 01:08:47,400
helpful for us to have that info if we

1793
01:08:45,720 --> 01:08:48,640
could get like a summary of the survey

1794
01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:50,400
results.

1795
01:08:48,640 --> 01:08:53,359
Um and then the specific stuff for

1796
01:08:50,400 --> 01:08:56,520
Grafton and town website, etc.

1797
01:08:53,359 --> 01:08:58,520
» I wish we there was some way to reach

1798
01:08:56,520 --> 01:09:01,040
people who are younger to do it, too.

1799
01:08:58,520 --> 01:09:03,400
Like those in school school-aged because

1800
01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:05,640
they're still using the town and they

1801
01:09:03,400 --> 01:09:07,120
have disabilities like

1802
01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:09,400
you know, even if we can make the

1803
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:14,160
language as simple as possible and have

1804
01:09:09,400 --> 01:09:14,160
it go out in a variety of places.

1805
01:09:14,960 --> 01:09:19,560
» They do not have any of their minutes

1806
01:09:17,000 --> 01:09:21,640
posted, but I'm seeing on the June 2nd

1807
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:22,799
they did go over the community survey

1808
01:09:21,640 --> 01:09:23,279
results.

1809
01:09:22,799 --> 01:09:25,680
» Okay.

1810
01:09:23,279 --> 01:09:28,520
» So, they might still be going over them,

1811
01:09:25,680 --> 01:09:31,279
but I don't they do not have their

1812
01:09:28,520 --> 01:09:33,160
meeting minutes posted.

1813
01:09:31,279 --> 01:09:37,440
At least for this year.

1814
01:09:33,160 --> 01:09:40,279
Oh, they have October 7th was the last.

1815
01:09:37,440 --> 01:09:40,913
Uh-oh, they might need you, Christie.

1816
01:09:40,279 --> 01:09:41,640
» Yeah.

1817
01:09:40,913 --> 01:09:44,200
» [laughter]

1818
01:09:41,640 --> 01:09:46,480
» Nope, she's taken.

1819
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:48,600
» Christie has a new gig, right?

1820
01:09:46,480 --> 01:09:50,319
» Really.

1821
01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:53,440
» Yeah, they're

1822
01:09:50,319 --> 01:09:53,440
they're a little behind.

1823
01:09:56,640 --> 01:10:01,520
» Some of that survey though, I feel it's

1824
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:03,240
too open-ended.

1825
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:05,880
And I don't think we're going to get

1826
01:10:03,240 --> 01:10:09,280
what we really want. Um

1827
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:09,720
» Too much too many options for writing

1828
01:10:09,280 --> 01:10:11,600
it?

1829
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:15,840
» No, it's too it's too general. So, what

1830
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:15,840
do you think the challenges are? Like

1831
01:10:15,920 --> 01:10:19,800
you know

1832
01:10:17,760 --> 01:10:22,080
like what are the challenges that you

1833
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:24,640
encounter in communication?

1834
01:10:22,080 --> 01:10:28,040
What are the challenges you um

1835
01:10:24,640 --> 01:10:29,320
encounter in um traveling around

1836
01:10:28,040 --> 01:10:30,040
Grafton?

1837
01:10:29,320 --> 01:10:30,800
You know, just

1838
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:32,800
» Uh

1839
01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:34,760
» Keeping it general, but let's give it

1840
01:10:32,800 --> 01:10:35,840
some context.

1841
01:10:34,760 --> 01:10:38,800
» Yeah.

1842
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:41,600
So, I will I will share with you the

1843
01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:44,360
meeting minutes from the October.

1844
01:10:41,600 --> 01:10:46,640
And

1845
01:10:44,360 --> 01:10:47,960
can everyone see my screen?

1846
01:10:46,640 --> 01:10:50,960
» Yes, now we

1847
01:10:47,960 --> 01:10:53,160
» 34 people responded.

1848
01:10:50,960 --> 01:10:54,760
» And they're a city.

1849
01:10:53,160 --> 01:10:56,360
» Yep.

1850
01:10:54,760 --> 01:10:57,960
» No, they're not a city.

1851
01:10:56,360 --> 01:10:59,400
» Yeah, it's city well, it's town of

1852
01:10:57,960 --> 01:11:01,640
Shrewsbury, but they're considered a

1853
01:10:59,400 --> 01:11:04,120
city in terms of their population.

1854
01:11:01,640 --> 01:11:04,360
» Oh, okay. Yeah, 40,000 or so, 30,000.

1855
01:11:04,120 --> 01:11:05,760
» Yeah.

1856
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:08,800
» They still They still have the

1857
01:11:05,760 --> 01:11:10,520
government of an admin. They have and a

1858
01:11:08,800 --> 01:11:12,600
select board.

1859
01:11:10,520 --> 01:11:14,200
» Yeah, but we I mean, when you compare

1860
01:11:12,600 --> 01:11:17,120
them to us

1861
01:11:14,200 --> 01:11:21,920
» 34 of them. Terrible.

1862
01:11:17,120 --> 01:11:21,920
» So, that's that in a nutshell.

1863
01:11:22,560 --> 01:11:27,600
I think we'd have to do some sort of So,

1864
01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:29,920
seven emailed stating they'd like more

1865
01:11:27,600 --> 01:11:32,560
information.

1866
01:11:29,920 --> 01:11:32,560
Um

1867
01:11:32,640 --> 01:11:36,680
You know,

1868
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:40,360
Ooh. I think

1869
01:11:36,680 --> 01:11:42,840
the person that is upset or negatively

1870
01:11:40,360 --> 01:11:45,880
affected, I think to have these things

1871
01:11:42,840 --> 01:11:49,520
available to them to speak their mind

1872
01:11:45,880 --> 01:11:52,040
and to have an a way to get answers.

1873
01:11:49,520 --> 01:11:54,880
Um I think that's what the goal is, not

1874
01:11:52,040 --> 01:11:58,080
necessarily trying to improve the entire

1875
01:11:54,880 --> 01:12:01,080
town. I think it's that person that ran

1876
01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:03,160
into this odd thing that we don't know

1877
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:05,000
anything about, and then it's brought to

1878
01:12:03,160 --> 01:12:06,960
our attention, and we can address it,

1879
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:08,160
and that makes a big difference in their

1880
01:12:06,960 --> 01:12:09,880
life.

1881
01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:12,560
Um you know,

1882
01:12:09,880 --> 01:12:15,280
a lot of things I I deal with a lot of

1883
01:12:12,560 --> 01:12:16,880
complaints, and

1884
01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:18,360
I would never know about them until

1885
01:12:16,880 --> 01:12:20,320
somebody actually called me and said,

1886
01:12:18,360 --> 01:12:22,880
"Hey, there's this

1887
01:12:20,320 --> 01:12:26,600
thing happening over here." And then I

1888
01:12:22,880 --> 01:12:29,040
I'm able to address it if I can.

1889
01:12:26,600 --> 01:12:32,120
So, it brings attention to whatever

1890
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:34,600
shortfall that we have,

1891
01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:37,440
and it makes the person, instead of

1892
01:12:34,600 --> 01:12:39,240
feeling like they're not heard or that

1893
01:12:37,440 --> 01:12:41,680
it doesn't matter, at least there's

1894
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:44,080
something like this, maybe even if it

1895
01:12:41,680 --> 01:12:46,920
makes one person's life

1896
01:12:44,080 --> 01:12:48,480
different, you know, and and better, and

1897
01:12:46,920 --> 01:12:50,440
it they've been living with it for

1898
01:12:48,480 --> 01:12:53,800
years, and no one's ever asked them,

1899
01:12:50,440 --> 01:12:56,640
"Hey, can I do anything for you?"

1900
01:12:53,800 --> 01:12:59,560
If even there was, you know, 10 people

1901
01:12:56,640 --> 01:13:02,880
saying, "Oh, this is this sidewalk is

1902
01:12:59,560 --> 01:13:05,240
broken and every time I do this and, you

1903
01:13:02,880 --> 01:13:08,200
know, I fall almost fall over." What

1904
01:13:05,240 --> 01:13:08,200
whatever it is.

1905
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:13,280
» Let me ask you this, Tracy and and and

1906
01:13:12,600 --> 01:13:16,000
um

1907
01:13:13,280 --> 01:13:16,880
well, and Christie and Sarah as well.

1908
01:13:16,000 --> 01:13:20,080
Um

1909
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:21,320
however we do a survey,

1910
01:13:20,080 --> 01:13:24,480
um

1911
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:27,560
I'm thinking that it's standard that

1912
01:13:24,480 --> 01:13:30,760
at the top of the survey,

1913
01:13:27,560 --> 01:13:33,320
um it's advertised what the running time

1914
01:13:30,760 --> 01:13:35,840
is. So, people know that, okay, what's

1915
01:13:33,320 --> 01:13:38,960
the expiration date of this survey?

1916
01:13:35,840 --> 01:13:42,080
And whether we put some of these in hard

1917
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:44,880
print as well for various areas of town.

1918
01:13:42,080 --> 01:13:47,360
Um not everyone uses computers.

1919
01:13:44,880 --> 01:13:47,360
And

1920
01:13:47,840 --> 01:13:53,200
is there a typical window

1921
01:13:51,040 --> 01:13:55,160
of number of weeks

1922
01:13:53,200 --> 01:13:56,640
that is sort of standard

1923
01:13:55,160 --> 01:13:58,720
um

1924
01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:59,960
for these types of surveys? 3 weeks? A

1925
01:13:58,720 --> 01:14:02,400
month? What what

1926
01:13:59,960 --> 01:14:04,080
» I think it should be rolling. I think

1927
01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,760
you should just leave it up there.

1928
01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:05,880
» All right.

1929
01:14:04,760 --> 01:14:08,120
» You know,

1930
01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:09,920
you want to send us some feedback. These

1931
01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:12,320
are kind of inquisitive and

1932
01:14:09,920 --> 01:14:14,960
thought-provoking questions.

1933
01:14:12,320 --> 01:14:17,040
And maybe we have a clipboard with a,

1934
01:14:14,960 --> 01:14:20,120
you know, hard copies and we go to the

1935
01:14:17,040 --> 01:14:22,080
senior center or we do our the big truck

1936
01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:24,040
night and we Would you like to

1937
01:14:22,080 --> 01:14:27,480
participate in the survey? It's

1938
01:14:24,040 --> 01:14:29,440
anonymous and then, you know,

1939
01:14:27,480 --> 01:14:31,400
maybe we do it that way. Maybe we don't

1940
01:14:29,440 --> 01:14:33,080
call it a survey. Maybe we just say

1941
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:34,640
questionnaire or

1942
01:14:33,080 --> 01:14:35,880
» Get your opinion on some things.

1943
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:37,120
» Yeah.

1944
01:14:35,880 --> 01:14:39,080
» Yeah, maybe yeah.

1945
01:14:37,120 --> 01:14:41,320
» Counts.

1946
01:14:39,080 --> 01:14:42,760
» I saw a paradigm shift then because I'm

1947
01:14:41,320 --> 01:14:46,040
thinking that,

1948
01:14:42,760 --> 01:14:48,960
you know, this whole boxing myself into

1949
01:14:46,040 --> 01:14:52,200
this window and then we have to gather

1950
01:14:48,960 --> 01:14:53,880
the results, but really it it's it's

1951
01:14:52,200 --> 01:14:56,960
more just

1952
01:14:53,880 --> 01:15:00,320
feedback. Like I don't I don't Like for

1953
01:14:56,960 --> 01:15:02,560
me, I don't need the formality of

1954
01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:04,320
you know, {quote} {unquote} results

1955
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:05,920
other than

1956
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:08,680
what are what's being brought to our

1957
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:10,160
attention, and what's being done to

1958
01:15:08,680 --> 01:15:12,480
address it.

1959
01:15:10,160 --> 01:15:15,280
» Well, I think it could be possibly very

1960
01:15:12,480 --> 01:15:17,840
productive for this commission to

1961
01:15:15,280 --> 01:15:20,080
actually work towards addressing the

1962
01:15:17,840 --> 01:15:21,920
concerns from

1963
01:15:20,080 --> 01:15:23,200
these pieces of paper or these

1964
01:15:21,920 --> 01:15:24,240
questions.

1965
01:15:23,200 --> 01:15:26,200
» Right.

1966
01:15:24,240 --> 01:15:28,920
» You know, we want to have more community

1967
01:15:26,200 --> 01:15:31,760
involvement and make a difference not

1968
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:34,440
only with just putting information

1969
01:15:31,760 --> 01:15:36,840
on the website and having these meetings

1970
01:15:34,440 --> 01:15:39,400
and hoping somebody will call us and

1971
01:15:36,840 --> 01:15:41,520
tell us, "Hey, this you know, I'm having

1972
01:15:39,400 --> 01:15:44,720
an issue with this." But

1973
01:15:41,520 --> 01:15:46,760
you know, life is very busy. So, if

1974
01:15:44,720 --> 01:15:48,680
we're at the senior center, if we're at

1975
01:15:46,760 --> 01:15:50,680
the various

1976
01:15:48,680 --> 01:15:54,240
um events,

1977
01:15:50,680 --> 01:15:56,520
and just have it available, have it on a

1978
01:15:54,240 --> 01:15:58,840
a table,

1979
01:15:56,520 --> 01:16:00,720
you know, you could get creative where

1980
01:15:58,840 --> 01:16:02,640
because you know that when you have an

1981
01:16:00,720 --> 01:16:04,640
issue, you want to tell somebody. You

1982
01:16:02,640 --> 01:16:08,240
want to tell the right person. So, if

1983
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:10,040
this is a just an available form,

1984
01:16:08,240 --> 01:16:12,880
you know, you might be able to get your

1985
01:16:10,040 --> 01:16:15,360
concern to the correct person.

1986
01:16:12,880 --> 01:16:15,360
» Right.

1987
01:16:15,640 --> 01:16:19,360
» And these people have good ideas that

1988
01:16:17,280 --> 01:16:21,040
are living it. They have good ideas on

1989
01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:24,360
how to fix things. They have good ideas

1990
01:16:21,040 --> 01:16:27,200
on you know, so no one else can

1991
01:16:24,360 --> 01:16:30,080
have the challenge, whatever it may be.

1992
01:16:27,200 --> 01:16:32,960
» Right. And even absent someone tackling

1993
01:16:30,080 --> 01:16:34,600
one or more of these questions, uh I

1994
01:16:32,960 --> 01:16:35,360
guess also

1995
01:16:34,600 --> 01:16:37,360
uh

1996
01:16:35,360 --> 01:16:40,040
more prominently and frequently

1997
01:16:37,360 --> 01:16:42,520
advertising our own commission's uh

1998
01:16:40,040 --> 01:16:42,920
email.

1999
01:16:42,520 --> 01:16:45,000
» Yeah.

2000
01:16:42,920 --> 01:16:47,720
» The people may just want to sh-

2001
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:51,960
one-off shoot us a question or a

2002
01:16:47,720 --> 01:16:54,360
or a uh some feedback or opinion or

2003
01:16:51,960 --> 01:16:57,240
an area of improvement or something.

2004
01:16:54,360 --> 01:16:59,680
compliment Hey, those are always good.

2005
01:16:57,240 --> 01:17:02,160
You know.

2006
01:16:59,680 --> 01:17:03,880
» Yeah, we can we can hope.

2007
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:06,400
» Yeah. I'll tell you when I was on

2008
01:17:03,880 --> 01:17:09,040
library trustees, there when I first

2009
01:17:06,400 --> 01:17:11,800
that was on from '23 to '26.

2010
01:17:09,040 --> 01:17:16,400
And for the first year, there was this

2011
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:19,920
awesome part of the agenda where the

2012
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:22,440
um library I think they still

2013
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:24,560
keep track of these opinions where

2014
01:17:22,440 --> 01:17:27,160
someone will either send an email or

2015
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:29,360
write a little note on a uh uh uh uh a

2016
01:17:27,160 --> 01:17:31,080
little piece of paper and it's all these

2017
01:17:29,360 --> 01:17:33,600
positive comments and they're like pages

2018
01:17:31,080 --> 01:17:36,840
of them. So-and-so So-and-so helped my

2019
01:17:33,600 --> 01:17:38,720
child do this or so-and-so was really

2020
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:40,160
gracious in addressing my frustration

2021
01:17:38,720 --> 01:17:42,400
regarding

2022
01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:44,920
log- logging on to genealogy and there's

2023
01:17:42,400 --> 01:17:46,400
like they'd usually be a few pages of

2024
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:50,320
these um

2025
01:17:46,400 --> 01:17:52,520
sort of kudos um and and

2026
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:54,520
it's it's refreshing

2027
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:56,200
compared to just hearing when people are

2028
01:17:54,520 --> 01:17:57,320
dissatisfied.

2029
01:17:56,200 --> 01:17:57,840
» Yeah.

2030
01:17:57,320 --> 01:18:00,880
» So.

2031
01:17:57,840 --> 01:18:02,080
» That's like. No, I'm just kidding.

2032
01:18:00,880 --> 01:18:03,360
» Yeah, but that's why they pay you the

2033
01:18:02,080 --> 01:18:03,680
big bucks, Tracy, right?

2034
01:18:03,360 --> 01:18:04,920
» Yeah.

2035
01:18:03,680 --> 01:18:07,840
» Yeah. All right.

2036
01:18:04,920 --> 01:18:07,960
» Yeah, exactly. I can take it. I can take

2037
01:18:07,840 --> 01:18:09,920
it.

2038
01:18:07,960 --> 01:18:12,280
» There you go. So what what do you

2039
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:15,920
» Yeah, I think um

2040
01:18:12,280 --> 01:18:18,400
through my experience of dealing with

2041
01:18:15,920 --> 01:18:21,400
the challenges

2042
01:18:18,400 --> 01:18:25,520
having an avenue for someone to

2043
01:18:21,400 --> 01:18:26,920
communicate with us what it is is just

2044
01:18:25,520 --> 01:18:28,680
everything.

2045
01:18:26,920 --> 01:18:31,120
So even if we put it out there forever

2046
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:33,120
and we get two people a year

2047
01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:35,720
you made that person's year.

2048
01:18:33,120 --> 01:18:37,960
If you could fix what their concern is.

2049
01:18:35,720 --> 01:18:40,480
» Right. All right, so let me ask you this

2050
01:18:37,960 --> 01:18:42,560
then uh

2051
01:18:40,480 --> 01:18:45,640
time frame All right, what are the next

2052
01:18:42,560 --> 01:18:48,400
steps, action items, time frame,

2053
01:18:45,640 --> 01:18:51,000
the scope of what we'll do and and and

2054
01:18:48,400 --> 01:18:52,360
» We could reduce the We could reduce the

2055
01:18:51,000 --> 01:18:54,920
questions

2056
01:18:52,360 --> 01:18:59,360
if we think it's too long.

2057
01:18:54,920 --> 01:19:00,880
Um you know, take a 30-second

2058
01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:01,360
questionnaire.

2059
01:19:00,880 --> 01:19:04,720
» Mhm.

2060
01:19:01,360 --> 01:19:06,440
» Leave your comments in 30 seconds.

2061
01:19:04,720 --> 01:19:07,560
People will do that.

2062
01:19:06,440 --> 01:19:08,960
I don't even think they would do 2

2063
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:10,400
minutes.

2064
01:19:08,960 --> 01:19:12,800
But they do 30 seconds.

2065
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:15,360
» I think to ask people for their specific

2066
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:17,160
disability information,

2067
01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:20,000
I mean, we don't need to know there

2068
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:21,520
this, that, or the other thing. Just say

2069
01:19:20,000 --> 01:19:23,960
Um do you have a physical,

2070
01:19:21,520 --> 01:19:26,760
psychological, learning I mean, just

2071
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:28,000
keep it again broad, four categories or

2072
01:19:26,760 --> 01:19:30,120
and another.

2073
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:33,040
You know, we don't need to say, are you

2074
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:33,760
deaf? Are you blind? Are you

2075
01:19:33,040 --> 01:19:36,040
um

2076
01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:37,600
chronic health? Are you medically I

2077
01:19:36,040 --> 01:19:39,160
mean, you know, we don't need to know

2078
01:19:37,600 --> 01:19:40,480
that information.

2079
01:19:39,160 --> 01:19:40,960
Just some

2080
01:19:40,480 --> 01:19:42,560
» Right.

2081
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:45,600
» Just some broad brush

2082
01:19:42,560 --> 01:19:48,080
categories, not the specifics, you know.

2083
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:50,760
» Yeah, because if people are leaving any

2084
01:19:48,080 --> 01:19:52,800
if they come from a It becomes actually

2085
01:19:50,760 --> 01:19:54,360
technically anything is a public

2086
01:19:52,800 --> 01:19:56,000
document if it's electronically

2087
01:19:54,360 --> 01:20:00,480
transmitted.

2088
01:19:56,000 --> 01:20:04,560
Um with an identifiable email uh no less

2089
01:20:00,480 --> 01:20:07,080
that I would not want to

2090
01:20:04,560 --> 01:20:09,520
elicit private information,

2091
01:20:07,080 --> 01:20:11,960
but we certainly

2092
01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:15,400
There's ways to sort of tap dance around

2093
01:20:11,960 --> 01:20:17,200
that to get useful information of how

2094
01:20:15,400 --> 01:20:20,280
certain

2095
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:22,800
facilities or services are impactful

2096
01:20:20,280 --> 01:20:26,000
either positively or negatively.

2097
01:20:22,800 --> 01:20:28,200
» I think it's fine to remove

2098
01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:30,640
the uh the question.

2099
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:30,640
» Mhm.

2100
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,800
» Or is there an option to have some

2101
01:20:33,200 --> 01:20:37,680
questions required and some not? Like

2102
01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:39,600
maybe we have like the what is the

2103
01:20:37,680 --> 01:20:41,680
challenge or comment as the only

2104
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:43,120
required question or something I don't

2105
01:20:41,680 --> 01:20:45,000
know. Um

2106
01:20:43,120 --> 01:20:47,000
and that way someone can still

2107
01:20:45,000 --> 01:20:48,440
go through and fill out as much as they

2108
01:20:47,000 --> 01:20:50,880
want.

2109
01:20:48,440 --> 01:20:52,040
I agree with simplifying and even taking

2110
01:20:50,880 --> 01:20:53,800
out some of those questions, but we

2111
01:20:52,040 --> 01:20:55,840
could just even do that so that way you

2112
01:20:53,800 --> 01:20:58,880
can participate in the survey to the

2113
01:20:55,840 --> 01:20:58,880
extent that you want to.

2114
01:21:01,040 --> 01:21:07,000
» Do you want to re- Do you want to uh

2115
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:08,880
Tracy resend what you sent us back on

2116
01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:10,680
the 27th of May?

2117
01:21:08,880 --> 01:21:12,840
And then we can

2118
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:14,200
maybe have some I bring some ideas to

2119
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:15,920
how to

2120
01:21:14,200 --> 01:21:19,480
truncate it.

2121
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:19,480
» Yes, are you mind reader?

2122
01:21:20,040 --> 01:21:23,840
That's exactly what I was doing.

2123
01:21:21,800 --> 01:21:26,480
» Oh, why I am a mind reader.

2124
01:21:23,840 --> 01:21:27,720
» Oh, good. That's a good skill to have.

2125
01:21:26,480 --> 01:21:29,800
» There you go.

2126
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:31,760
» Yeah.

2127
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:32,960
So everybody should have that fresh

2128
01:21:31,760 --> 01:21:34,160
right now.

2129
01:21:32,960 --> 01:21:36,240
» Okay.

2130
01:21:34,160 --> 01:21:40,160
» And we can

2131
01:21:36,240 --> 01:21:42,360
I'm okay with keeping it casual, too.

2132
01:21:40,160 --> 01:21:45,720
And if you know, you never know which

2133
01:21:42,360 --> 01:21:46,600
direction this could take off in.

2134
01:21:45,720 --> 01:21:49,040
» Mhm.

2135
01:21:46,600 --> 01:21:49,040
» Okay.

2136
01:21:49,840 --> 01:21:53,000
All right. So

2137
01:21:53,800 --> 01:21:57,440
So let let's um

2138
01:21:56,120 --> 01:21:58,600
think about some of these things and

2139
01:21:57,440 --> 01:21:59,640
then we can

2140
01:21:58,600 --> 01:22:01,360
maybe

2141
01:21:59,640 --> 01:22:02,440
bounce things around in our August

2142
01:22:01,360 --> 01:22:03,640
meeting.

2143
01:22:02,440 --> 01:22:05,480
» Sure.

2144
01:22:03,640 --> 01:22:08,280
» All right.

2145
01:22:05,480 --> 01:22:11,120
All right. Thank you. Awesome.

2146
01:22:08,280 --> 01:22:13,080
All right, moving on.

2147
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:17,280
Um any other old business I threw on

2148
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:17,280
there. I I can't think of anything.

2149
01:22:17,600 --> 01:22:23,240
Um

2150
01:22:19,520 --> 01:22:25,040
then new business which

2151
01:22:23,240 --> 01:22:27,120
could have been old business now that I

2152
01:22:25,040 --> 01:22:29,040
think about we spoke about it at our

2153
01:22:27,120 --> 01:22:31,240
last meeting, but new business.

2154
01:22:29,040 --> 01:22:33,520
Uh National Night Out is Tuesday, August

2155
01:22:31,240 --> 01:22:35,280
4th. So, in the morning, I get to go to

2156
01:22:33,520 --> 01:22:36,880
Silver Lake Beach, and then in the

2157
01:22:35,280 --> 01:22:40,800
afternoon,

2158
01:22:36,880 --> 01:22:43,440
uh we are hosting South Coast Wheelchair

2159
01:22:40,800 --> 01:22:45,240
Tennis Foundation again

2160
01:22:43,440 --> 01:22:47,760
at the Grafton High School tennis courts

2161
01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:49,480
as part of National Night Out.

2162
01:22:47,760 --> 01:22:51,560
I think that National Night Out,

2163
01:22:49,480 --> 01:22:52,840
technically, the window is 5:00 to 8:00

2164
01:22:51,560 --> 01:22:55,960
p.m.

2165
01:22:52,840 --> 01:22:58,880
And I have been in touch Everything's in

2166
01:22:55,960 --> 01:23:00,400
place. Uh Tom Dodd at the found tennis

2167
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:02,240
foundation,

2168
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:03,200
he and I connected.

2169
01:23:02,240 --> 01:23:06,080
Uh

2170
01:23:03,200 --> 01:23:10,880
He's up and ready to go.

2171
01:23:06,080 --> 01:23:12,080
And I obtained I booked the courts.

2172
01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:13,480
Funny

2173
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:15,520
thing is that

2174
01:23:13,480 --> 01:23:17,400
we really only needed one set of courts,

2175
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:20,680
but there's no way to book just one set

2176
01:23:17,400 --> 01:23:24,120
on the school website. So, we have the

2177
01:23:20,680 --> 01:23:26,720
tennis courts between 5:00 and 8:00 p.m.

2178
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:28,240
And I obtained the insurance certificate

2179
01:23:26,720 --> 01:23:30,640
that the school needed, the general

2180
01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:32,320
liability certificate.

2181
01:23:30,640 --> 01:23:33,800
And um

2182
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:35,800
So, everything's in place for the

2183
01:23:33,800 --> 01:23:37,280
facilities and the insurance uh

2184
01:23:35,800 --> 01:23:41,000
certificate

2185
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:43,880
to move forward with this. So,

2186
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:46,600
we will not be and we discussed this uh

2187
01:23:43,880 --> 01:23:47,200
where we had the pause for people

2188
01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:50,720
uh

2189
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:52,360
last year and in prior years, and

2190
01:23:50,720 --> 01:23:54,800
we will not be doing that again this

2191
01:23:52,360 --> 01:23:56,720
year. So, the only thing we'll be uh

2192
01:23:54,800 --> 01:23:59,560
doing is

2193
01:23:56,720 --> 01:24:01,280
the hosting the tennis.

2194
01:23:59,560 --> 01:24:03,040
So,

2195
01:24:01,280 --> 01:24:06,160
I will be there.

2196
01:24:03,040 --> 01:24:09,880
Anyone else planning on being there

2197
01:24:06,160 --> 01:24:09,880
that would want to represent uh

2198
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:13,480
us?

2199
01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:15,120
» I'll be around.

2200
01:24:13,480 --> 01:24:15,880
» Yeah, but I'll be out of town that week.

2201
01:24:15,120 --> 01:24:17,520
I'm so bummed.

2202
01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:19,680
» Maine.

2203
01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:21,280
» I'm in Maine that week.

2204
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:22,240
» Oh, okay. Well, I will definitely be

2205
01:24:21,280 --> 01:24:24,400
there.

2206
01:24:22,240 --> 01:24:26,240
I was able to make it last year. I was

2207
01:24:24,400 --> 01:24:28,280
in Nova Scotia.

2208
01:24:26,240 --> 01:24:30,160
And I heard it went I heard it went over

2209
01:24:28,280 --> 01:24:32,280
very well.

2210
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:33,480
And um

2211
01:24:32,280 --> 01:24:35,520
I guess

2212
01:24:33,480 --> 01:24:35,520
uh

2213
01:24:35,600 --> 01:24:41,120
they also invited um

2214
01:24:39,360 --> 01:24:44,640
folks to either play against them on

2215
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:46,720
foot or in wheelchairs.

2216
01:24:44,640 --> 01:24:47,880
And so, I know they'll be bringing extra

2217
01:24:46,720 --> 01:24:49,400
chairs.

2218
01:24:47,880 --> 01:24:51,800
And

2219
01:24:49,400 --> 01:24:53,960
so, just as a reminder, the only

2220
01:24:51,800 --> 01:24:56,200
difference between

2221
01:24:53,960 --> 01:24:57,840
uh wheelchair tennis and non-wheelchair

2222
01:24:56,200 --> 01:24:59,520
tennis is

2223
01:24:57,840 --> 01:25:01,480
um

2224
01:24:59,520 --> 01:25:04,080
using the entire court

2225
01:25:01,480 --> 01:25:07,080
the doubles perimeter

2226
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:10,240
uh for singles and

2227
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:12,040
being allowed two bounces of the ball

2228
01:25:10,240 --> 01:25:14,280
versus one.

2229
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:15,880
And that that's basically it as far as I

2230
01:25:14,280 --> 01:25:18,040
understand.

2231
01:25:15,880 --> 01:25:19,640
So, so

2232
01:25:18,040 --> 01:25:21,680
uh and then what they have is what's

2233
01:25:19,640 --> 01:25:24,360
called one up, one down.

2234
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:26,440
Where if I'm not in a wheelchair and I'm

2235
01:25:24,360 --> 01:25:28,160
standing and playing against someone

2236
01:25:26,440 --> 01:25:30,120
from the foundation

2237
01:25:28,160 --> 01:25:31,520
um I'm only allowed one bounce, but

2238
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:32,960
they're allowed two.

2239
01:25:31,520 --> 01:25:34,240
So.

2240
01:25:32,960 --> 01:25:35,680
Yep.

2241
01:25:34,240 --> 01:25:38,480
And that that's advertised on their

2242
01:25:35,680 --> 01:25:39,360
website. They call it one up, one down.

2243
01:25:38,480 --> 01:25:40,280
So.

2244
01:25:39,360 --> 01:25:42,320
Um

2245
01:25:40,280 --> 01:25:43,920
So, Sarah, you've been to National Night

2246
01:25:42,320 --> 01:25:46,000
Out, right?

2247
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:48,440
» I actually haven't.

2248
01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:50,880
» It's like the biggest, hugest block

2249
01:25:48,440 --> 01:25:54,280
party on the planet. It's um

2250
01:25:50,880 --> 01:25:57,080
it it's held on the police station

2251
01:25:54,280 --> 01:25:59,000
grounds and and it extends into the high

2252
01:25:57,080 --> 01:26:03,160
school. Um

2253
01:25:59,000 --> 01:26:03,160
uh just it's a it's a um

2254
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:07,840
it's really primarily advertised as a

2255
01:26:05,680 --> 01:26:10,120
public safety event, but it's really

2256
01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:12,760
more of a community block party where

2257
01:26:10,120 --> 01:26:14,400
all the committees in in in town have

2258
01:26:12,760 --> 01:26:16,480
tables set up.

2259
01:26:14,400 --> 01:26:18,600
Uh the sheriff's department has tables

2260
01:26:16,480 --> 01:26:20,640
set up. They have the SWAT team there.

2261
01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:21,760
They state police have come in with

2262
01:26:20,640 --> 01:26:24,600
their

2263
01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:27,480
with their dogs and in the past and

2264
01:26:24,600 --> 01:26:30,120
they have games and prizes and helmet

2265
01:26:27,480 --> 01:26:31,960
bicycle helmet giveaways and

2266
01:26:30,120 --> 01:26:33,400
all sorts of swag and

2267
01:26:31,960 --> 01:26:37,600
» Oh, yeah. It's

2268
01:26:33,400 --> 01:26:39,800
and it's a 3-hour event that um

2269
01:26:37,600 --> 01:26:42,440
Yeah, it's it's on

2270
01:26:39,800 --> 01:26:43,400
Yeah, it's on the police station uh

2271
01:26:42,440 --> 01:26:44,520
uh

2272
01:26:43,400 --> 01:26:46,200
grounds.

2273
01:26:44,520 --> 01:26:49,160
So.

2274
01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:50,560
So, it's a it's a Yeah, how did you miss

2275
01:26:49,160 --> 01:26:51,680
that? Yeah, that was

2276
01:26:50,560 --> 01:26:55,360
» I don't know.

2277
01:26:51,680 --> 01:26:58,560
» Yes, so that's that's so that yeah

2278
01:26:55,360 --> 01:27:01,480
told anyone with kids, it's like you got

2279
01:26:58,560 --> 01:27:02,200
to you got to go there, you know? And so

2280
01:27:01,480 --> 01:27:04,440
um

2281
01:27:02,200 --> 01:27:06,040
so I don't know if if now that you'll be

2282
01:27:04,440 --> 01:27:08,680
there, whether you want to get bogged

2283
01:27:06,040 --> 01:27:10,640
down as as trying to

2284
01:27:08,680 --> 01:27:12,920
you know, hold down a place as part of

2285
01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:16,040
the accessibility advisory commission,

2286
01:27:12,920 --> 01:27:17,440
but versus going there as a mom.

2287
01:27:16,040 --> 01:27:20,440
Um

2288
01:27:17,440 --> 01:27:22,120
but I will definitely be there um

2289
01:27:20,440 --> 01:27:25,560
the entirety.

2290
01:27:22,120 --> 01:27:27,600
And I think last year they

2291
01:27:25,560 --> 01:27:28,440
We did Christie on the front end of

2292
01:27:27,600 --> 01:27:30,680
things last year.

2293
01:27:28,440 --> 01:27:34,280
» One there last year.

2294
01:27:30,680 --> 01:27:34,400
» Was it 4:30 from 4:30 on?

2295
01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:36,800
Or

2296
01:27:34,400 --> 01:27:37,360
» I was there from 4:30 on.

2297
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:40,760
» Okay.

2298
01:27:37,360 --> 01:27:43,840
» A long night, but you know, it was fun.

2299
01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:45,760
» It was. And they the year before they

2300
01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:48,240
couldn't even though it stopped raining,

2301
01:27:45,760 --> 01:27:50,440
unless the court is completely dry, it

2302
01:27:48,240 --> 01:27:51,840
it stopped raining in the morning,

2303
01:27:50,440 --> 01:27:54,200
but the court

2304
01:27:51,840 --> 01:27:57,000
was not completely dry and that was a a

2305
01:27:54,200 --> 01:28:01,440
slip hazard. So, we had to like

2306
01:27:57,000 --> 01:28:03,320
cancel it literally last minute. So.

2307
01:28:01,440 --> 01:28:06,440
Anyway. Um

2308
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:08,320
so all right, then I will I will take

2309
01:28:06,440 --> 01:28:11,760
charge of this and I will take plenty of

2310
01:28:08,320 --> 01:28:13,080
pictures. And I'm wondering um

2311
01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:15,880
you know what I'll do? I'll call a

2312
01:28:13,080 --> 01:28:18,120
community advocate.

2313
01:28:15,880 --> 01:28:20,680
If everyone's okay with that, maybe they

2314
01:28:18,120 --> 01:28:21,680
could, uh, cover that and the Graph the

2315
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:24,920
News

2316
01:28:21,680 --> 01:28:24,920
as well as the Graph the News.

2317
01:28:29,040 --> 01:28:31,760
All right.

2318
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:35,080
I'm just going to highlight that in

2319
01:28:31,760 --> 01:28:35,080
blue. All right.

2320
01:28:36,840 --> 01:28:41,440
Any type of, um,

2321
01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:43,080
advert tising of those types of events

2322
01:28:41,440 --> 01:28:45,200
is awesome.

2323
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:47,640
And, um,

2324
01:28:45,200 --> 01:28:49,600
any other new business?

2325
01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:51,720
Um,

2326
01:28:49,600 --> 01:28:53,600
are we premature in discussing Graph the

2327
01:28:51,720 --> 01:28:56,520
Celebratory Holidays?

2328
01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:56,520
I think we may be.

2329
01:28:58,440 --> 01:29:01,880
» But, I think we did a lot of great work

2330
01:28:59,840 --> 01:29:03,760
tonight.

2331
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,760
» Cool. All right.

2332
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:07,160
» Off.

2333
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:10,160
» Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah,

2334
01:29:07,160 --> 01:29:11,720
it's already We're already 8:00. All

2335
01:29:10,160 --> 01:29:14,840
right. Any other new business? I just

2336
01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:17,440
put that in as a placeholder. Um,

2337
01:29:14,840 --> 01:29:20,120
so, uh, does anyone else have any new

2338
01:29:17,440 --> 01:29:20,120
business?

2339
01:29:21,120 --> 01:29:26,400
Okay. Our next meeting

2340
01:29:23,760 --> 01:29:28,880
will be, um, Tuesday, August 11th at

2341
01:29:26,400 --> 01:29:32,400
6:30.

2342
01:29:28,880 --> 01:29:36,880
And via Zoom. And on that note, I'll

2343
01:29:32,400 --> 01:29:36,880
certainly entertain a motion to adjourn.

2344
01:29:38,760 --> 01:29:42,720
» So moved.

2345
01:29:41,480 --> 01:29:45,520
» All right.

2346
01:29:42,720 --> 01:29:46,480
And do I have a second?

2347
01:29:45,520 --> 01:29:48,960
» Second.

2348
01:29:46,480 --> 01:29:50,320
» All right, Sarah. Second.

2349
01:29:48,960 --> 01:29:52,680
All right.

2350
01:29:50,320 --> 01:29:54,280
All right. Um, motion made and seconded.

2351
01:29:52,680 --> 01:29:56,080
All those in favor by roll call.

2352
01:29:54,280 --> 01:29:57,520
Christie.

2353
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:59,000
» Yes. I.

2354
01:29:57,520 --> 01:29:59,920
» Sarah.

2355
01:29:59,000 --> 01:30:00,680
» I.

2356
01:29:59,920 --> 01:30:02,160
» Tracy.

2357
01:30:00,680 --> 01:30:04,040
» I.

2358
01:30:02,160 --> 01:30:08,640
» Roger, I declare the motion carried.

2359
01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:08,640
This meeting is adjourned at 8:03 p.m.