1 00:00:25,349 --> 00:00:27,989 Michael Bryce, are there still people signing in? 2 00:00:29,429 --> 00:00:31,509 No, we're just checking to see if anybody's 3 00:00:31,509 --> 00:00:40,245 coming. Ah, gotcha. Cody, who came at two, 4 00:00:40,245 --> 00:00:42,965 his grandpa showed up. Since Cody wasn't here, 5 00:00:42,965 --> 00:00:52,739 he left. Oh, Okay. So I think we're 6 00:00:52,739 --> 00:00:54,900 about ready to get started. We're ready to 7 00:00:54,900 --> 00:01:09,285 get started? Yep. Okay. Well, hello everyone, and 8 00:01:09,285 --> 00:01:12,085 welcome to our public scoping meeting for the 9 00:01:12,085 --> 00:01:18,140 Stockton Washfoot Retarding Structure Rehabilitation Project. My name 10 00:01:18,140 --> 00:01:20,780 is Christina Mojos, and I will be your 11 00:01:20,780 --> 00:01:24,940 host in today's meeting. And, if you can 12 00:01:24,940 --> 00:01:27,820 go to the next slide, Stephanie. Before we 13 00:01:27,820 --> 00:01:31,180 begin, we ask that your microphones and phones 14 00:01:31,180 --> 00:01:35,045 are muted and your cameras turned off. And 15 00:01:35,045 --> 00:01:36,965 at the end of this meeting, we'll have 16 00:01:36,965 --> 00:01:40,485 the chance for everyone to give their, questions 17 00:01:40,485 --> 00:01:46,110 and comments and concerns. And lastly, I want 18 00:01:46,110 --> 00:01:48,189 to inform you all that this meeting is 19 00:01:48,189 --> 00:01:50,750 being recorded, and it will be posted on 20 00:01:50,750 --> 00:01:54,990 the county's website. So let us begin. Next 21 00:01:54,990 --> 00:01:59,965 slide. In today's meeting, we will discuss who 22 00:01:59,965 --> 00:02:02,604 makes up the study team, what are the 23 00:02:02,604 --> 00:02:05,405 goals of the meeting, what are the purpose 24 00:02:05,405 --> 00:02:08,845 and need for action, what is the overview 25 00:02:08,845 --> 00:02:11,969 of the planning study, What are the formulation 26 00:02:11,969 --> 00:02:16,450 and evaluation of alternatives? And lastly, the public 27 00:02:16,450 --> 00:02:22,129 participation. Next slide. So as I mentioned earlier, 28 00:02:22,129 --> 00:02:24,375 my name is Christina Mahos, and I will 29 00:02:24,375 --> 00:02:29,655 be describing the study team. The study team 30 00:02:29,655 --> 00:02:33,735 involves members from NRCS, the local sponsor, a 31 00:02:33,735 --> 00:02:38,694 team of consultants, stakeholders, agencies, and the public. 32 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:45,440 Next slide. So NRCS stands for Natural Resources 33 00:02:45,440 --> 00:02:49,600 Conservation Service. Listed here are the four key 34 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:54,755 members of the NRCS with varying disciplines. The 35 00:02:54,755 --> 00:02:58,355 NRCS is the lead federal agency. They are 36 00:02:58,355 --> 00:03:02,675 a funding source. They provide engineering and construction 37 00:03:02,675 --> 00:03:10,230 assistance and construction quality assurance. The local sponsor 38 00:03:10,470 --> 00:03:15,110 for this project is Graham County. Michael Bryce 39 00:03:15,270 --> 00:03:17,990 and Eric Engel are the two county engineer 40 00:03:17,990 --> 00:03:21,670 members assigned to this project. They operate and 41 00:03:21,670 --> 00:03:25,615 maintain the dam. They are a funding partner. 42 00:03:26,575 --> 00:03:31,215 They acquire necessary land rights and easements, obtain 43 00:03:31,215 --> 00:03:37,909 required permits, and manage contracts. Next slide. The 44 00:03:37,909 --> 00:03:42,310 consultant team consists of two consultants, Genera Consultants 45 00:03:42,310 --> 00:03:46,150 and Stantec Consulting Services. As you can see 46 00:03:46,150 --> 00:03:49,510 with the list listed key members, they are 47 00:03:49,510 --> 00:03:53,315 disciplined in a wide range of fields. Next 48 00:03:53,315 --> 00:03:56,834 slide. And as you can see on this 49 00:03:56,834 --> 00:04:00,275 slide, preparation of the watershed plan involves a 50 00:04:00,275 --> 00:04:05,715 multidisciplinary process ranging from engineering to environmental to 51 00:04:05,715 --> 00:04:11,260 economic and etcetera. Next slide. Our next presenter 52 00:04:11,260 --> 00:04:14,780 is David Bayman with NRCS as a State 53 00:04:14,780 --> 00:04:18,220 Conservation Engineer. He will be describing the goals 54 00:04:18,220 --> 00:04:21,740 of today's meeting. David, please go ahead and 55 00:04:21,740 --> 00:04:25,985 take it from here. Thank you. Good evening, 56 00:04:25,985 --> 00:04:29,264 everyone. How are you? Good. We really appreciate 57 00:04:29,264 --> 00:04:32,465 you guys being here tonight. First off, I 58 00:04:32,465 --> 00:04:34,945 want to thank the county for their partnership 59 00:04:34,945 --> 00:04:39,690 in this endeavor. Really great to have good 60 00:04:39,690 --> 00:04:41,610 partners like the county when we begin one 61 00:04:41,610 --> 00:04:46,890 of these projects. So my short time in 62 00:04:46,890 --> 00:04:48,410 front of me tonight is kind of talking 63 00:04:48,410 --> 00:04:51,574 about the goals. Why are we here? Next 64 00:04:51,574 --> 00:04:57,335 slide, please. First off, we kind of want 65 00:04:57,335 --> 00:04:59,095 to explain to you the who, what, the 66 00:04:59,095 --> 00:05:02,055 why. Why are we doing this study? What's 67 00:05:02,055 --> 00:05:05,175 the purpose? And then what is your role? 68 00:05:07,280 --> 00:05:09,520 We're going to give you that overview of 69 00:05:09,520 --> 00:05:12,720 what is this study? What is this document? 70 00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,120 What's its intent? What do we want to 71 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:18,320 do? As you can see here, we want 72 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,125 to talk to you about the condition of 73 00:05:21,125 --> 00:05:24,405 this structure. Here a moment later on, the 74 00:05:24,405 --> 00:05:26,805 structure is over 50 years old, so it's 75 00:05:26,805 --> 00:05:28,965 been in the community for quite some time. 76 00:05:29,365 --> 00:05:30,645 We want to kind of talk to you 77 00:05:30,645 --> 00:05:32,530 a little bit about what is it, why 78 00:05:32,530 --> 00:05:35,090 is it here, and is it good, is 79 00:05:35,090 --> 00:05:38,050 it okay? You know, this is the Commission. 80 00:05:38,530 --> 00:05:41,250 I want talk to you about this input 81 00:05:41,250 --> 00:05:44,850 session. This is your opportunity to hear about 82 00:05:44,850 --> 00:05:47,505 the project, but really for you to give 83 00:05:47,505 --> 00:05:51,665 us feedback. Are we asking the right questions 84 00:05:51,985 --> 00:05:54,865 about this type of project? Are there things 85 00:05:54,865 --> 00:05:58,225 that we've overlooked up to this point? You 86 00:05:58,225 --> 00:06:01,930 are an integral component. Remember that previous slide, 87 00:06:02,090 --> 00:06:05,370 we have, like, four little pictures. You are 88 00:06:05,370 --> 00:06:09,530 that fourth leg, that fourth element of this 89 00:06:09,530 --> 00:06:12,595 process. Without you, we can't do it. You 90 00:06:12,595 --> 00:06:15,075 need to know what is happening here in 91 00:06:15,075 --> 00:06:20,115 the community. But ultimately, you get the questions. 92 00:06:20,115 --> 00:06:23,075 We need that feedback. We need to understand 93 00:06:23,075 --> 00:06:28,640 how the structure and any potential improvements to 94 00:06:28,640 --> 00:06:34,160 the structure that impact you, your community. Next 95 00:06:34,160 --> 00:06:42,515 slide. Public involvement. This is critical. Can't do 96 00:06:42,515 --> 00:06:44,115 this alone. We can't do it without the 97 00:06:44,115 --> 00:06:46,595 county. We can't do it without your help. 98 00:06:47,315 --> 00:06:51,155 We don't live here. You guys do. The 99 00:06:51,315 --> 00:06:54,710 structure is for your event. So we need 100 00:06:54,710 --> 00:06:57,670 that feedback. We need the engagement tonight and 101 00:06:57,670 --> 00:07:01,670 as it processes forward. And as you can 102 00:07:01,670 --> 00:07:04,230 see there, you know, we're looking at the 103 00:07:04,230 --> 00:07:08,264 flooding. The structure was built to protect the 104 00:07:08,264 --> 00:07:13,065 downstream properties from continued flooding and erosion. We 105 00:07:13,065 --> 00:07:14,425 made out of the cells that are still 106 00:07:14,425 --> 00:07:19,145 working by continuing. Meeting that intent and we'd 107 00:07:19,145 --> 00:07:23,570 expand its purpose of power. Culture resources, as 108 00:07:23,570 --> 00:07:25,890 they're doing what they're supposed to do, the 109 00:07:25,890 --> 00:07:31,410 interaction with the community, support. Culture resources, we 110 00:07:31,410 --> 00:07:33,570 always have to consider on their effects on 111 00:07:33,570 --> 00:07:40,915 cultural resources So again, appreciate all of you 112 00:07:40,915 --> 00:07:43,235 being here this evening. I look forward to 113 00:07:43,235 --> 00:07:52,050 the conversation, the dialogue. Thank you. Thank you, 114 00:07:52,050 --> 00:07:55,970 David. Our next presenter is unfortunately unable to 115 00:07:55,970 --> 00:07:58,850 attend today's meeting due to a medical emergency. 116 00:07:59,645 --> 00:08:01,885 I will be presenting on his behalf the 117 00:08:01,885 --> 00:08:07,245 purpose and need for action. Next slide. So 118 00:08:07,245 --> 00:08:11,405 the Stockton Wash flood retarding structure, otherwise called 119 00:08:11,405 --> 00:08:15,830 the Stockton Wash FRS or the Dam, is 120 00:08:15,830 --> 00:08:18,949 a flood control dam located about three miles 121 00:08:18,949 --> 00:08:22,310 Southeast of the city of Safford, East of 122 00:08:22,310 --> 00:08:26,310 Highway 191, and South of East Solomon Road. 123 00:08:26,949 --> 00:08:28,789 In the map shown on the right, you 124 00:08:28,789 --> 00:08:30,725 can see the red circle is where the 125 00:08:30,725 --> 00:08:34,885 dam is located at. The Grayhub County Fairgrounds 126 00:08:34,885 --> 00:08:37,765 is also located on the map for reference. 127 00:08:38,885 --> 00:08:45,060 Next slide. The dam was built in 1964 128 00:08:45,060 --> 00:08:47,940 as part of the Fry Creek Stockton Wash 129 00:08:47,940 --> 00:08:52,820 Watershed flood protection project. The original project included 130 00:08:52,820 --> 00:08:56,845 flood control dams and outlet channels to the 131 00:08:56,845 --> 00:09:00,925 Gila River for four drainages. As shown in 132 00:09:00,925 --> 00:09:03,325 the image on the lower right to upper 133 00:09:03,325 --> 00:09:08,125 left corners is the Stockton Wash, Graveyard Wash, 134 00:09:08,605 --> 00:09:13,640 Freeman Wash, and Fry Creek Wash. Next slide. 135 00:09:14,600 --> 00:09:18,520 The Stockton Wash FRS consists of a 40 136 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,680 foot high earthen embankment dam, a reservoir flood 137 00:09:22,680 --> 00:09:28,715 pool, a principal spillway, two auxiliary spillways, and 138 00:09:28,715 --> 00:09:32,635 an outlet channel. The image on the left 139 00:09:32,635 --> 00:09:34,795 shows the features of the dam in plan 140 00:09:34,795 --> 00:09:37,675 view, and the image on the right shows 141 00:09:37,675 --> 00:09:40,709 a cross sectional view of the dam. We 142 00:09:40,709 --> 00:09:42,630 want to note that the dam does not 143 00:09:42,630 --> 00:09:46,470 permanently store water, so it remains dry except 144 00:09:46,470 --> 00:09:53,525 during large rainfall events. Next slide. The purpose 145 00:09:53,525 --> 00:09:56,885 of this rehabilitation project is to extend the 146 00:09:56,885 --> 00:09:59,445 service life of the dam, and while doing 147 00:09:59,445 --> 00:10:01,365 so, we need to bring the dam into 148 00:10:01,365 --> 00:10:05,685 compliance with current performance, design, and safety standards. 149 00:10:06,560 --> 00:10:11,040 The NRCS provides design requirements, and the Arizona 150 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,800 Department of Water Resources provides rules and regulations. 151 00:10:15,600 --> 00:10:18,000 We also want to take this opportunity to 152 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:22,995 maintain or improve flood protection to reduce flood 153 00:10:22,995 --> 00:10:28,035 damages. Next slide. The dam was designed to 154 00:10:28,035 --> 00:10:31,475 have a fifty year service life. Recall it 155 00:10:31,475 --> 00:10:34,514 was built in 1964, so it is about 156 00:10:34,514 --> 00:10:41,279 60 years old. ADWR has identified safety deficiencies 157 00:10:41,279 --> 00:10:45,200 at this dam to be inadequate auxiliary spillway 158 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:50,765 capacity and possible foundation cracking. Some items we 159 00:10:50,765 --> 00:10:53,645 are looking at to upgrade to meet current 160 00:10:53,645 --> 00:10:58,205 standards and sufficient dam or sufficient dam height 161 00:10:58,205 --> 00:11:02,685 and freeboard, adding a filter diagram for the 162 00:11:02,685 --> 00:11:06,550 outlet pipe, the flow velocity at the principal 163 00:11:06,550 --> 00:11:10,870 spillway inlet, the stability and integrity of the 164 00:11:10,870 --> 00:11:15,190 auxiliary spillways, and adding an emergency access route. 165 00:11:16,485 --> 00:11:21,365 Next slide. As shown in the image, the 166 00:11:21,365 --> 00:11:24,805 dam provides flood protection to areas between Highway 167 00:11:24,805 --> 00:11:30,170 191 and South Barney Lane, and then Highland 168 00:11:30,170 --> 00:11:34,730 Canal and Gila River. This entails part of 169 00:11:34,730 --> 00:11:36,810 the city of Safford and all of the 170 00:11:36,810 --> 00:11:43,894 Hollywood community, about 1,000 buildings, Highway 70, natural 171 00:11:43,894 --> 00:11:48,535 gas lines, and irrigation ditches and water lines. 172 00:11:49,095 --> 00:11:51,415 The various shades of color in the image 173 00:11:51,415 --> 00:11:56,850 represent the 1,500 acres of irrigated cropland. Next 174 00:11:56,850 --> 00:12:01,330 slide. The image on the right shows the 175 00:12:01,330 --> 00:12:04,370 inundation area based on a ten year storm 176 00:12:04,370 --> 00:12:07,330 event if the dam was not in place. 177 00:12:07,970 --> 00:12:10,485 And as you can see, water is flowing 178 00:12:10,485 --> 00:12:13,285 beyond the banks of the Stockton Wash Outlet 179 00:12:13,285 --> 00:12:16,805 Channel if that were to occur. The image 180 00:12:16,805 --> 00:12:19,524 on the left shows the inundation area if 181 00:12:19,524 --> 00:12:21,605 the dam is in place as it is 182 00:12:21,605 --> 00:12:26,190 currently. The dam, you can see, provides flood 183 00:12:26,190 --> 00:12:29,150 protection with flow through the Stockton Wash Outlet 184 00:12:29,150 --> 00:12:31,870 Channel all the way to the Gila River. 185 00:12:32,590 --> 00:12:37,644 Next slide. Our next presenter is Greg Wall 186 00:12:37,644 --> 00:12:41,564 with NRCS as a state watershed planner. He 187 00:12:41,564 --> 00:12:43,805 will be describing the overview of the planning 188 00:12:43,805 --> 00:12:49,240 study. Greg, please take it from here. Thank 189 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:53,240 you, Christina, and thank you to those of 190 00:12:53,240 --> 00:12:57,480 you who are participating tonight and providing comments 191 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:01,959 and input to this project and process. Next 192 00:13:01,959 --> 00:13:07,115 slide. So what is a watershed plan EA 193 00:13:07,115 --> 00:13:11,035 or plan environmental assessment? It's a combined planning 194 00:13:11,035 --> 00:13:14,875 document making up those four components you see 195 00:13:14,875 --> 00:13:16,875 on the right hand side of the slide 196 00:13:16,875 --> 00:13:22,000 in those blue boxes. Those components consist of 197 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,560 Public Law eighty three thousand five and sixty 198 00:13:24,560 --> 00:13:28,480 six, which we'll go into more detail, NEPA, 199 00:13:28,480 --> 00:13:31,360 the National Environmental Policy Act, which is the 200 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:36,765 process, PRNGs, which is the principles, requirements and 201 00:13:36,765 --> 00:13:42,525 guidelines for federal watershed projects and other policies 202 00:13:42,525 --> 00:13:46,765 and manuals like the National Watershed Program Manual 203 00:13:46,765 --> 00:13:50,110 and Handbook. In addition to those, as part 204 00:13:50,110 --> 00:13:52,830 of the process, NEPA covers, you can think 205 00:13:52,830 --> 00:13:56,030 of it as an umbrella. NEPA is a 206 00:13:56,030 --> 00:13:58,670 process and the umbrella covers a lot of 207 00:13:58,670 --> 00:14:03,335 other federal laws, regulations and policies. Some of 208 00:14:03,335 --> 00:14:06,615 those, as an example, are NHPA, which is 209 00:14:06,615 --> 00:14:09,255 the National Historic Preservation Act that deals with 210 00:14:09,335 --> 00:14:13,975 cultural resources and archaeology, ESA, which is the 211 00:14:13,975 --> 00:14:17,095 Endangered Species Act, deals with threatened endangered species, 212 00:14:17,760 --> 00:14:21,680 and in all other applicable laws like executive 213 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:27,440 orders. Next slide. So what is the watershed 214 00:14:27,440 --> 00:14:31,760 planning process that creates this watershed plan EA? 215 00:14:32,795 --> 00:14:37,515 The process is a nine step process in 216 00:14:37,515 --> 00:14:39,595 which we are at step number two as 217 00:14:39,595 --> 00:14:42,155 indicated on the slide by the yellow arrow 218 00:14:42,875 --> 00:14:46,235 in which we are gathering public input and 219 00:14:46,235 --> 00:14:52,050 comments during the initial information gathering stage. So 220 00:14:52,050 --> 00:14:55,650 during public scoping is when we hope to 221 00:14:55,650 --> 00:15:00,850 gather information and concerns and comments from participants 222 00:15:00,850 --> 00:15:04,805 in the community. The other opportunity for the 223 00:15:04,805 --> 00:15:06,725 community and the public to engage during this 224 00:15:06,725 --> 00:15:10,965 process is step seven, when the draft plan 225 00:15:11,045 --> 00:15:15,060 EA is put out for public comment. It's 226 00:15:15,060 --> 00:15:17,460 important during scoping to identify any problems or 227 00:15:17,460 --> 00:15:20,580 important resources that you're aware of that we 228 00:15:20,580 --> 00:15:24,180 need to consider at this phase during the 229 00:15:24,180 --> 00:15:31,524 process. Next slide. So what is NEPA? As 230 00:15:31,524 --> 00:15:34,565 I was describing earlier, NEPA is that umbrella. 231 00:15:34,565 --> 00:15:37,764 It's intended to help federal agencies make decisions 232 00:15:37,764 --> 00:15:39,605 that are based on an understanding of the 233 00:15:39,605 --> 00:15:44,839 environmental consequences and take actions that protect, restore 234 00:15:44,839 --> 00:15:48,279 and enhance the environment. A policy of NEPA 235 00:15:48,279 --> 00:15:51,400 requires an evaluation of the potential impacts of 236 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:55,240 natural and human environments associated with any proposed 237 00:15:55,240 --> 00:16:01,845 federal action. Next slide. So PRNGs that we 238 00:16:01,845 --> 00:16:06,005 mentioned earlier, the principles, requirements and guidelines for 239 00:16:06,005 --> 00:16:11,125 watershed projects have three objectives, maximize sustainable economic 240 00:16:11,125 --> 00:16:15,210 development, avoid the unwise use of floodplains and 241 00:16:15,210 --> 00:16:18,730 flood prone areas, protecting and restoring the functions 242 00:16:18,730 --> 00:16:22,970 of natural systems and mitigating any unavoidable damage 243 00:16:22,970 --> 00:16:29,785 to natural systems. Public benefits encompass environmental, economic 244 00:16:30,025 --> 00:16:36,025 and social goals, including monetary and nonmonetary effects 245 00:16:36,025 --> 00:16:38,840 and allow for the consideration of both quantified 246 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:46,920 and unquantified measures. Next slide. So what is 247 00:16:46,920 --> 00:16:50,760 Public Law 83,566, which is part of those 248 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,080 four components that make up a watershed plan 249 00:16:53,080 --> 00:16:57,135 EA? The three purposes of the public law 250 00:16:57,135 --> 00:17:00,175 is to prevent damage from erosion, floodwater and 251 00:17:00,175 --> 00:17:05,454 sediment. It's furthering conservation, development, utilization and disposal 252 00:17:05,454 --> 00:17:10,589 of water. The other purpose is furthering conservation 253 00:17:10,589 --> 00:17:15,470 and proper utilization of land. So Public Law 254 00:17:15,710 --> 00:17:17,550 eighty three thousand five hundred and sixty six 255 00:17:17,550 --> 00:17:22,635 watershed projects have eight authorities. So these are 256 00:17:22,635 --> 00:17:30,075 the authorizations that any watershed project can commence. 257 00:17:31,370 --> 00:17:34,330 This project, the first one, is flood prevention. 258 00:17:35,050 --> 00:17:40,250 Other authorizations include watershed protection, public recreation, public 259 00:17:40,250 --> 00:17:44,490 fish and wildlife, agricultural use, municipal and industrial 260 00:17:44,490 --> 00:17:48,945 water supply, water quality management, watershed structure rehab. 261 00:17:50,385 --> 00:17:56,065 Next slide. So what is NHPA? We'll briefly 262 00:17:56,065 --> 00:17:59,760 touch on the National Historic Preservation Act. Essentially, 263 00:17:59,760 --> 00:18:04,640 NHPA will identify historic properties during this federal 264 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,920 action. It'll assess the impacts with the proposed 265 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:10,880 action and it'll seek ways to avoid, minimize 266 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:17,125 or mitigate any proposed impacts that are associated 267 00:18:17,125 --> 00:18:20,965 with the proposed action. NEPA also requires consideration 268 00:18:20,965 --> 00:18:24,165 of historic and cultural sites. So examples of 269 00:18:24,165 --> 00:18:30,140 those are archeological sites, artifacts and structures such 270 00:18:30,140 --> 00:18:36,140 as houses, barns, bridges and dams. Other considerations 271 00:18:36,140 --> 00:18:39,899 under NHPA are culturally significant plants or landscapes. 272 00:18:40,140 --> 00:18:47,415 Next slide. Thank you. Thank you, Greg. I 273 00:18:47,415 --> 00:18:49,655 will be presenting on behalf of Michael Johnson 274 00:18:49,655 --> 00:18:53,895 describing the formulation and evaluation of alternatives. Next 275 00:18:53,895 --> 00:19:00,110 slide. So as we develop each alternative, we 276 00:19:00,110 --> 00:19:04,350 need to consider all reasonable alternatives, including a 277 00:19:04,350 --> 00:19:08,030 future without project alternative, which is like a 278 00:19:08,030 --> 00:19:13,205 do nothing alternative, a dam decommissioning alternative, a 279 00:19:13,205 --> 00:19:19,445 dam rehabilitation, a nonstructural, a locally preferred, an 280 00:19:19,445 --> 00:19:24,885 environmentally preferred, and a national economic efficiency alternative, 281 00:19:25,600 --> 00:19:28,639 and any other reasonable alternatives that may come 282 00:19:28,639 --> 00:19:36,240 up. Next slide. Potential rehabilitation alternatives include increasing 283 00:19:36,240 --> 00:19:39,345 the sediment storage capacity to extend the life 284 00:19:39,345 --> 00:19:42,945 for another fifty to one hundred years, increasing 285 00:19:42,945 --> 00:19:46,465 the downstream flood protection, raising the top of 286 00:19:46,465 --> 00:19:51,825 the dam, modifying the existing auxiliary spillways, constructing 287 00:19:51,825 --> 00:19:56,610 a new auxiliary spillway, modifying the existing principal 288 00:19:56,610 --> 00:20:01,889 spillway, constructing a new principal spillway, and adding 289 00:20:01,889 --> 00:20:06,130 erosion armoring to the dam slopes. Next slide. 290 00:20:08,345 --> 00:20:11,065 We will evaluate all the alternatives in a 291 00:20:11,065 --> 00:20:15,304 comparative form to assess the environmental impacts. These 292 00:20:15,304 --> 00:20:18,505 are factors to consider while comparing the alternatives. 293 00:20:19,450 --> 00:20:23,210 One factor is how to maximize the public 294 00:20:23,210 --> 00:20:27,050 benefits relative to cost. Another factor is to 295 00:20:27,050 --> 00:20:30,570 not give more importance to any of the 296 00:20:30,570 --> 00:20:36,265 three goals: economic, environmental, and social impacts. Another 297 00:20:36,265 --> 00:20:39,385 factor is to evaluate the effects on natural 298 00:20:39,385 --> 00:20:43,385 and human environment and incorporate mitigation measures as 299 00:20:43,385 --> 00:20:48,720 needed. Next slide. The plan EA will document 300 00:20:48,720 --> 00:20:52,640 all the reasonable alternatives considered and the reasons 301 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:56,559 for selecting a preferred alternative. The Plan EA 302 00:20:56,559 --> 00:21:00,559 will describe the arrangements and responsibilities for financing, 303 00:21:00,640 --> 00:21:04,905 installation, and operation and maintenance for the rehabilitation 304 00:21:04,905 --> 00:21:10,105 project. Next slide. Next I will be talking 305 00:21:10,105 --> 00:21:15,080 about the public participation. As shown on the 306 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:19,400 left is the estimated project timeline. We are 307 00:21:19,400 --> 00:21:23,240 currently collecting and reviewing public comments. We have 308 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:27,400 received some comments via email, phone, and website. 309 00:21:28,235 --> 00:21:30,795 When the public comment period will end, we 310 00:21:30,795 --> 00:21:33,675 will complete our formulation and evaluation of all 311 00:21:33,675 --> 00:21:37,435 the alternatives. Around June and into July, we 312 00:21:37,435 --> 00:21:41,115 will analyze in more detail the selected alternatives 313 00:21:41,310 --> 00:21:44,350 and evaluate the potential impacts they may have 314 00:21:44,350 --> 00:21:49,310 on the environmental resources. From August 2023 to 315 00:21:49,310 --> 00:21:52,750 March 2024, the draft plan EA will be 316 00:21:52,750 --> 00:21:55,230 prepared and the public will be given an 317 00:21:55,230 --> 00:21:58,645 opportunity to review and comment, and the plan 318 00:21:58,645 --> 00:22:05,205 EA will then be finalized. Next slide. At 319 00:22:05,205 --> 00:22:07,765 this time, we need the public's input, and 320 00:22:07,765 --> 00:22:10,965 some items to consider are flooding and erosion, 321 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:17,720 water, cultural, wildlife, and biological resources, social and 322 00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:22,600 environmental justice, and evaluation of the alternatives. Sorry. 323 00:22:25,095 --> 00:22:28,695 We've reached out to the public utilizing various 324 00:22:28,695 --> 00:22:32,295 methods. We mailed the notices based on a 325 00:22:32,295 --> 00:22:35,415 boundary covering an area upstream and downstream of 326 00:22:35,415 --> 00:22:40,210 the dam using the county's parcel database. Nine 327 00:22:40,370 --> 00:22:43,490 eighty eight notice envelopes containing the project fact 328 00:22:43,490 --> 00:22:46,370 sheet and meeting notice were mailed out on 329 00:22:46,370 --> 00:22:50,850 May 13. Less than 100 envelopes were returned 330 00:22:50,850 --> 00:22:53,650 due to various reasons such as property owner 331 00:22:53,650 --> 00:22:57,795 had moved, it's a vacant lot, or was 332 00:22:57,795 --> 00:23:03,155 not deliverable as addressed. We also utilized Eastern 333 00:23:03,155 --> 00:23:06,515 Arizona Courier to publish on two separate days 334 00:23:06,675 --> 00:23:11,080 the meeting notice. And lastly, the Safford CityGraham 335 00:23:11,080 --> 00:23:14,120 County Library allowed us to post the meeting 336 00:23:14,120 --> 00:23:20,040 notice. Next slide. As indicated on the meeting 337 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,705 notice and website, the public scoping comment period 338 00:23:23,705 --> 00:23:28,744 started on 05/16/2023 and ends on June 15. 339 00:23:29,385 --> 00:23:32,104 We encourage you to send us your comments, 340 00:23:32,424 --> 00:23:36,110 questions, or concerns using one of the listed 341 00:23:36,110 --> 00:23:40,510 methods: email, website, and on the website is 342 00:23:40,510 --> 00:23:45,950 a comment form, mail, phone, today in person 343 00:23:45,950 --> 00:23:48,595 using the comment cards that are placed on 344 00:23:48,595 --> 00:23:51,794 a table in the county's assembly room, or 345 00:23:51,794 --> 00:23:54,434 virtually as we begin to allow the public 346 00:23:54,434 --> 00:23:58,755 to unmute themselves within the Teams app. I 347 00:23:58,755 --> 00:24:01,395 will remind everyone that we are recording this 348 00:24:01,395 --> 00:24:04,600 meeting and will be posted we will be 349 00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:08,920 posting the meeting on the county's website. And 350 00:24:08,920 --> 00:24:10,840 if you could go to the next slide. 351 00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,080 As we begin to open the floor to 352 00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,255 the public, I would like to point out 353 00:24:15,255 --> 00:24:21,175 the USDA nondiscrimination policy statement. So at this 354 00:24:21,175 --> 00:24:26,055 time, we are going to allow, if possible, 355 00:24:27,015 --> 00:24:30,690 people in the assembly room to provide their 356 00:24:30,690 --> 00:24:33,890 comments first before we go to those that 357 00:24:33,890 --> 00:24:37,890 are logged in virtually attending the meeting. So 358 00:24:37,890 --> 00:24:39,810 right now we're going to go ahead and 359 00:24:39,810 --> 00:24:43,735 provide permissions. So Michael Bryce, if you want 360 00:24:43,735 --> 00:24:45,735 to go ahead and lead the effort for 361 00:24:45,735 --> 00:24:48,295 guiding those to speak first in the assembly 362 00:24:48,295 --> 00:24:53,415 room, I leave the floor to you. Do 363 00:24:53,415 --> 00:24:56,260 we have anyone that wants to ask questions 364 00:24:56,260 --> 00:25:00,820 or maybe comments? As long as you do. 365 00:25:00,900 --> 00:25:06,340 So just state your name and and. Okay, 366 00:25:06,340 --> 00:25:10,420 I'm Lawrence Brockett. I'm the owner the land 367 00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:25,600 Sorry, didn't quite catch the end of that. 368 00:25:25,600 --> 00:25:27,440 If we are to raise the dam, what 369 00:25:27,440 --> 00:25:30,240 was the rest of it? Yes, where's the 370 00:25:30,240 --> 00:25:33,440 material going to come from? Are we going 371 00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:34,640 to add it? We're going to try to 372 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:38,394 dig it out from? Yes, well definitely that, 373 00:25:39,034 --> 00:25:42,794 good question. Yes, so we will definitely analyze 374 00:25:42,875 --> 00:25:45,034 as part of our study in the Plan 375 00:25:45,034 --> 00:25:48,554 E A, we will document on, where the 376 00:25:48,554 --> 00:25:51,470 material would come from, whether it's reusing some 377 00:25:51,470 --> 00:25:53,789 portions from other parts of the dam if 378 00:25:53,789 --> 00:25:57,630 we're going to modify by cutting somewhere. It 379 00:25:57,630 --> 00:26:00,110 could be if we find that the material 380 00:26:00,110 --> 00:26:03,230 inside the reservoir or flood pool area is 381 00:26:03,230 --> 00:26:06,125 adequate enough, that might be a source of 382 00:26:06,125 --> 00:26:09,085 material to use. Or if we have to 383 00:26:09,085 --> 00:26:11,644 go to outside resources, that may be a 384 00:26:11,644 --> 00:26:14,365 source as well. And that's part of the 385 00:26:14,365 --> 00:26:17,965 study that we're planning to, prepare here as 386 00:26:17,965 --> 00:26:20,490 we move forward is to determine some of 387 00:26:20,490 --> 00:26:27,770 these, solutions. One more. Would cleaning the frozen 388 00:26:27,770 --> 00:26:30,490 gap out help put the new vehicle parts 389 00:26:30,490 --> 00:26:35,405 on the boat? If cleaning the reservoir out, 390 00:26:35,405 --> 00:26:37,005 would that solve the problem? Is that what 391 00:26:37,005 --> 00:26:39,005 your question is? It could help resolve some 392 00:26:39,005 --> 00:26:45,419 of the problems. It definitely could. It helped. 393 00:26:45,420 --> 00:26:47,980 Did he say to remove some of the 394 00:26:47,980 --> 00:26:50,140 deposited If you remove some of the material 395 00:26:50,140 --> 00:26:52,300 in the reservoir area, could that help resolve 396 00:26:52,300 --> 00:26:54,460 some of the problems? Some of it. It 397 00:26:54,460 --> 00:26:57,580 gives you more capacity obviously for storing water, 398 00:26:58,075 --> 00:27:01,755 but there's still, you wouldn't have enough to, 399 00:27:01,995 --> 00:27:04,715 you still need to mitigate or have another 400 00:27:05,835 --> 00:27:10,475 part of the alternative in order to fulfill 401 00:27:10,475 --> 00:27:14,280 both the state and NRCS requirements. But it 402 00:27:14,280 --> 00:27:21,240 would help, and it is being considered. But 403 00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,520 when they built that dam Go ahead and 404 00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,280 state your name. When they built that dam, 405 00:27:27,145 --> 00:27:29,385 they took all the dirt out of the 406 00:27:29,385 --> 00:27:33,225 upper side. That's where they took it down. 407 00:27:33,625 --> 00:27:37,145 Because I worked on an engineer. It always 408 00:27:37,145 --> 00:27:42,360 with the SCS Well, that was the best 409 00:27:42,360 --> 00:27:45,720 one we had to do. We drive farms 410 00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:48,200 in the growth rates. I raised three gun 411 00:27:48,200 --> 00:27:51,160 violence. Had 40, I don't know how much 412 00:27:51,165 --> 00:27:53,005 to me. Was 100, but I guess it 413 00:27:53,005 --> 00:27:59,405 was probably. Upstream or downstream. We didn't even 414 00:27:59,405 --> 00:28:03,485 find myself. Very clear. Was paid. We, my 415 00:28:03,485 --> 00:28:05,760 father, our father bought that. In fact, I 416 00:28:05,760 --> 00:28:08,240 put the dairy there. And he was paid 417 00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,560 to have the damn foot, but we can't 418 00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,480 was allowed to park, but you were at 419 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,840 risk to get insurance or anything. Yeah, we 420 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,320 would, it would level up just perfect. I 421 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:22,435 mean, boring. And then you would kill it 422 00:28:22,435 --> 00:28:25,235 a little bit, put seed in about the 423 00:28:25,235 --> 00:28:28,435 time about the time that you needed water 424 00:28:28,435 --> 00:28:32,355 from getting the monsoon fill up. And we 425 00:28:32,355 --> 00:28:34,360 got three time model. We got two two 426 00:28:34,360 --> 00:28:36,600 time model here. One grows here and one 427 00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:43,799 blood here. I'm Dale Crockett. I'm his brother. 428 00:28:47,534 --> 00:28:54,655 Until 02/2005 approximately, there was around the main 429 00:28:54,655 --> 00:29:00,580 spillway there were blocks seen that put around 430 00:29:00,580 --> 00:29:03,060 about two foot high to keep keep the 431 00:29:03,060 --> 00:29:08,660 water where it would, wouldn't, wash things out. 432 00:29:09,060 --> 00:29:13,860 Those were removed and and the focus land 433 00:29:13,860 --> 00:29:18,855 that we used farming and we got, we 434 00:29:18,855 --> 00:29:23,815 would lose, maybe one crop every five years 435 00:29:24,295 --> 00:29:29,380 because the planting the We had, as Lawrence 436 00:29:29,380 --> 00:29:34,260 mentioned, we had good, good farming, good crops 437 00:29:34,340 --> 00:29:39,540 open. For whatever reason they took the blocks 438 00:29:39,540 --> 00:29:44,465 out, it suddenly made noise and complete erosion 439 00:29:44,465 --> 00:29:47,985 and we we lost probably 60 acres of 440 00:29:47,985 --> 00:29:53,425 land that's not far. Like to change that, 441 00:29:53,425 --> 00:29:55,505 but the way it is better right now, 442 00:29:56,820 --> 00:30:00,260 it doesn't give us much purpose for. Do 443 00:30:00,260 --> 00:30:06,580 you know who removed those wrong? Yeah. It 444 00:30:06,580 --> 00:30:09,860 was, I was approached or say the names 445 00:30:09,860 --> 00:30:12,225 that we need to drain that because it 446 00:30:12,225 --> 00:30:14,785 was the source of the West style virus. 447 00:30:15,425 --> 00:30:17,745 And so my understanding was there would be 448 00:30:17,745 --> 00:30:20,145 one draining to it and they were gonna 449 00:30:20,145 --> 00:30:23,840 remove one layer of tiles. And when I 450 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,320 went up there, they roll out. There was 451 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,399 all kinds of branches, ditches and dykes and 452 00:30:28,399 --> 00:30:30,960 everything. And there's no way to do one 453 00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,480 of us for Hilton, new Barn. Without I'm 454 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:36,080 a dozer operator, so I'm gonna get the 455 00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:37,360 I had golfer or what do think we're 456 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:41,325 gonna get there. But but it was that 457 00:30:41,804 --> 00:30:44,125 and I don't know whether why, who determined 458 00:30:44,125 --> 00:30:46,284 that was the source of West Nile. I 459 00:30:46,284 --> 00:30:48,845 personally got West Nile, so I can't argue 460 00:30:49,404 --> 00:30:52,540 that that one very much, but it there's 461 00:30:52,540 --> 00:30:54,700 other sources of water. There there was a 462 00:30:54,700 --> 00:30:57,980 lot of other. Bonds around, but that one 463 00:30:57,980 --> 00:31:02,540 was the one that was. Goes into. That 464 00:31:02,540 --> 00:31:04,220 is why it hasn't been far since then. 465 00:31:04,955 --> 00:31:14,395 Jason Crockett's what what type of flood event 466 00:31:14,395 --> 00:31:16,715 are we trying to prepare for? Like I 467 00:31:16,715 --> 00:31:20,830 saw there, there was a ten year flood. 468 00:31:20,910 --> 00:31:26,030 Is that what we're No, that was just 469 00:31:26,030 --> 00:31:33,264 an example. We definitely look at various frequency 470 00:31:33,264 --> 00:31:36,945 events like the five, ten, 20 five, 50, 471 00:31:37,505 --> 00:31:41,024 one hundred. This dam was built for the 472 00:31:41,024 --> 00:31:44,980 100, and definitely we're making sure that it's 473 00:31:44,980 --> 00:31:47,860 going to again fulfill the one hundred year 474 00:31:47,860 --> 00:31:56,500 requirements based on current standards. Palpione has water 475 00:31:56,500 --> 00:32:00,635 gotten in there since it was, Say, go 476 00:32:00,635 --> 00:32:05,275 to the. Spillway, how high up there has 477 00:32:05,275 --> 00:32:09,835 it gotten through. I've never seen it very 478 00:32:09,835 --> 00:32:12,875 high. I don't think it's ever gone through 479 00:32:12,875 --> 00:32:19,940 the spillway. And but this ADWR requirement is 480 00:32:19,940 --> 00:32:23,299 the spillway piece size for the probable maximum, 481 00:32:23,299 --> 00:32:25,860 but which is beyond the five hundred year 482 00:32:25,860 --> 00:32:31,535 flood. I mean, it's. That entertained it is 483 00:32:31,535 --> 00:32:34,495 a brain that's about. I know it's pretty 484 00:32:34,575 --> 00:32:37,615 good with $79.83, but we don't see anything 485 00:32:37,615 --> 00:32:42,190 like that. So is there current damage to 486 00:32:42,190 --> 00:32:44,190 the we walked at the other day? Is 487 00:32:44,190 --> 00:32:49,150 there current damage to the dam? No, is 488 00:32:49,150 --> 00:32:52,245 it just that the regulations have changed? It's 489 00:32:52,245 --> 00:32:54,805 mainly that the regulations have changed over the 490 00:32:54,805 --> 00:32:58,165 years from when it was originally designed and 491 00:32:58,165 --> 00:33:01,205 built in 1964 to what it is current 492 00:33:01,205 --> 00:33:11,940 today. We got a letter to the mail 493 00:33:11,940 --> 00:33:14,340 and that's why we're here, but we don't 494 00:33:14,340 --> 00:33:17,024 have any farmlands. My husband just has a 495 00:33:17,024 --> 00:33:20,144 tiny little piece of land in Little Hollywood. 496 00:33:20,225 --> 00:33:22,385 So how is that going to affect us 497 00:33:22,385 --> 00:33:26,945 or? I sure hope I'm here. Help you 498 00:33:26,945 --> 00:33:32,500 with flood protection. It's definitely Here's the question. 499 00:33:33,620 --> 00:33:36,660 No, it's okay. It's definitely there. Having this 500 00:33:36,660 --> 00:33:39,220 dam, it's definitely going to provide protection to 501 00:33:39,220 --> 00:33:42,665 those areas downstream of it. And definitely the 502 00:33:42,665 --> 00:33:45,145 community of Hollywood is one of those areas. 503 00:33:45,145 --> 00:33:48,665 So I would say it would be an 504 00:33:48,665 --> 00:33:52,025 asset having that dam to provide that continued 505 00:33:52,025 --> 00:34:02,620 flood protection to your property. I'm sorry, what 506 00:34:02,620 --> 00:34:08,380 was She says, is this coming out of 507 00:34:08,380 --> 00:34:09,900 our taxes? Are we going to have to 508 00:34:09,900 --> 00:34:13,534 pay for it? I would say a good 509 00:34:13,534 --> 00:34:19,054 portion is lead federal agencies is providing a 510 00:34:19,054 --> 00:34:21,375 good portion of the funding source for this 511 00:34:21,375 --> 00:34:25,870 rehabilitation effort. And then your local sponsor is 512 00:34:25,870 --> 00:34:30,110 also a source of that funding. Yeah, they 513 00:34:30,110 --> 00:34:32,350 definitely do cover a good majority of it. 514 00:34:34,270 --> 00:34:38,885 So currently, the study is funded by the 515 00:34:38,885 --> 00:34:42,405 NRCS. So this is at no cost to 516 00:34:42,405 --> 00:34:47,045 the county or to the taxpayer. If the 517 00:34:47,045 --> 00:34:49,605 results of the study are favorable, there's a 518 00:34:49,605 --> 00:34:52,539 desire to move forward, and we get into 519 00:34:52,539 --> 00:34:56,699 a situation where we're going to something new, 520 00:34:56,940 --> 00:35:00,859 different, taller, that will be covered by the 521 00:35:00,859 --> 00:35:06,765 RCS. If those results positive and we get 522 00:35:06,765 --> 00:35:10,125 to a point where the community, the county 523 00:35:10,445 --> 00:35:16,125 wants to implement and construct those features, it's 524 00:35:16,125 --> 00:35:19,940 at that point where there's a local badge 525 00:35:20,180 --> 00:35:25,460 that the county would be responsible for. Typically, 526 00:35:25,700 --> 00:35:38,605 the federal government would pay 65% And it 527 00:35:38,605 --> 00:35:40,765 would be up to the county to determine 528 00:35:41,645 --> 00:35:49,170 how that 35% collected for whatever their process. 529 00:35:50,210 --> 00:35:53,009 But again, I just announced years away if 530 00:35:53,009 --> 00:35:59,505 we get to that. Back in, I think 531 00:35:59,505 --> 00:36:01,025 it was in the 80s when they had 532 00:36:01,025 --> 00:36:09,920 that run. I know that the graveyard wash. 533 00:36:10,640 --> 00:36:14,480 I know there was squirrel holes or gulper 534 00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:17,039 holes or something through it. Just one minute 535 00:36:17,039 --> 00:36:20,000 got up so high water started going through 536 00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:24,855 it. They had ever gone trucking around it 537 00:36:24,855 --> 00:36:32,694 and stopped from breaking. And I'm quite sure 538 00:36:32,694 --> 00:36:34,855 this dam right here is just about the 539 00:36:34,855 --> 00:36:43,360 same way. My name is Leslie Paulsley, me 540 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,440 and my wife ops the plant, south of 541 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,840 the dam. I have a couple of questions. 542 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:52,984 I know before that Native Americans down downstream, 543 00:36:52,984 --> 00:36:54,664 they own the water. We're not allowed to 544 00:36:54,664 --> 00:36:57,704 climb it or something that's been considered in 545 00:36:57,704 --> 00:37:02,025 this. Digging it out. And another one is. 546 00:37:03,990 --> 00:37:06,710 Right. If we clean it out, how much 547 00:37:06,710 --> 00:37:10,150 would we still have to raise the dam? 548 00:37:11,350 --> 00:37:19,835 Meet the new standards. Yeah, so I could 549 00:37:19,835 --> 00:37:23,995 answer a part of that question. Know, definitely 550 00:37:23,995 --> 00:37:26,475 we will have some people out there serving 551 00:37:26,475 --> 00:37:28,795 and actually some of that has been conducted 552 00:37:28,795 --> 00:37:32,150 already. So you might have seen some people 553 00:37:32,150 --> 00:37:36,470 walking on some properties just doing an assessment 554 00:37:36,470 --> 00:37:43,205 to determine if there's any archaeological finds. We 555 00:37:43,205 --> 00:37:46,485 do, later on in this process, also look 556 00:37:46,485 --> 00:37:52,165 for tribal consultation. And when it comes to 557 00:37:52,165 --> 00:37:54,565 if we raise the dam using some of 558 00:37:54,565 --> 00:37:57,840 this material, may that be part of the 559 00:37:57,840 --> 00:38:01,680 area that could be something tribal or cultural? 560 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:05,360 Yes, we always want to look through and 561 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,905 be thorough in our investigation as we provide 562 00:38:10,905 --> 00:38:17,145 some results of our analysis. Further on, I 563 00:38:17,145 --> 00:38:20,025 imagine as we go to the design, if 564 00:38:20,025 --> 00:38:23,625 that is a process that happens later on, 565 00:38:24,050 --> 00:38:27,250 additional studies may be conducted at that time. 566 00:38:29,010 --> 00:38:32,690 But yes, when the dam was originally built, 567 00:38:33,170 --> 00:38:37,090 there may have been already a cultural resource 568 00:38:37,090 --> 00:38:40,455 assessment that was done at that time, and 569 00:38:40,695 --> 00:38:44,535 anytime we do anything new, we obviously want 570 00:38:44,535 --> 00:38:49,575 to examine that area as well. I wasn't 571 00:38:49,575 --> 00:38:52,375 concerned about their artifacts. I was more concerned 572 00:38:52,375 --> 00:38:55,030 about stay on water because it runs off 573 00:38:55,030 --> 00:38:58,070 to them. The I'm sorry, what was that? 574 00:39:00,869 --> 00:39:03,910 There was a water right associated to the 575 00:39:03,910 --> 00:39:08,150 drug. Don't know. Well, water right. The the 576 00:39:08,150 --> 00:39:12,045 armature is not out of the walls permanently. 577 00:39:12,845 --> 00:39:15,405 He designed structures with kind of a ten 578 00:39:15,405 --> 00:39:19,965 day window that if it should fill, it 579 00:39:19,965 --> 00:39:22,859 should drain within ten days. So increase in 580 00:39:22,859 --> 00:39:25,420 this building? Does that help? Only if it 581 00:39:25,420 --> 00:39:28,220 gets to that elevation and what will happen. 582 00:39:28,220 --> 00:39:30,460 What about the drainage pipe? Drainage pipe is 583 00:39:30,460 --> 00:39:32,779 going function as is always function. Put a 584 00:39:32,779 --> 00:39:35,260 note. That could be part of the solution. 585 00:39:37,225 --> 00:39:38,825 A lot to add with what he had 586 00:39:38,825 --> 00:39:42,105 just said, removing sediment from from the south 587 00:39:42,105 --> 00:39:45,625 side. Could we also possibly construct a pond 588 00:39:45,625 --> 00:39:51,130 there? Yep. By what it's function. Wade, What 589 00:39:51,130 --> 00:39:53,210 I was told from the time on is 590 00:39:53,210 --> 00:39:55,210 since there's years that we had a pond 591 00:39:55,210 --> 00:39:58,810 on the old Killing, Cobb County, and probably 592 00:39:58,810 --> 00:40:01,369 they bought they bought. We have a pond. 593 00:40:01,369 --> 00:40:02,970 We actually had two, but the county didn't 594 00:40:02,970 --> 00:40:05,475 like it coming up to the road. And 595 00:40:05,475 --> 00:40:08,915 so we could catch because we have water 596 00:40:08,915 --> 00:40:10,995 shares, but we're part of the development of 597 00:40:10,995 --> 00:40:13,715 ditch company. We could catch water in our 598 00:40:13,715 --> 00:40:15,715 pond, but we thought it used it down 599 00:40:15,715 --> 00:40:17,715 the phone, but we could not use the 600 00:40:17,715 --> 00:40:20,680 dam to impound and pump it back because 601 00:40:20,680 --> 00:40:23,320 that the county tried to do that. And 602 00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:27,000 they have helicopters and everything down there. They 603 00:40:27,000 --> 00:40:30,520 we cannot use the dam for we could 604 00:40:30,520 --> 00:40:32,120 they can't take it away because it's also 605 00:40:32,120 --> 00:40:34,440 the ground department because of the way it 606 00:40:34,440 --> 00:40:37,345 can do. If I I can't pump out 607 00:40:37,345 --> 00:40:39,345 of that blood control down, because the county 608 00:40:39,345 --> 00:40:41,505 you would have a place where they pumped 609 00:40:41,505 --> 00:40:44,224 it out. And they put in and we 610 00:40:44,224 --> 00:40:46,865 cannot do that. And you have to, but 611 00:40:46,865 --> 00:40:49,664 you can't use impound it before, but once 612 00:40:49,664 --> 00:40:53,039 it touches that down, you cannot be a 613 00:40:53,039 --> 00:41:54,945 board bumping out. It's already been decided. Okay, 614 00:41:54,945 --> 00:42:03,105 Mike. Is for this. Oh, the damn. Outlet. 615 00:42:03,825 --> 00:42:07,345 Who's supposed to take care of that? Right? 616 00:42:07,345 --> 00:42:12,360 The canal. The making something now that it 617 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:17,880 it typically depends account. They don't do anything. 618 00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:21,865 If it that day I'm right now. Got 619 00:42:21,865 --> 00:42:25,705 up three quarters full. That outlet came out 620 00:42:25,705 --> 00:42:29,625 like it has years back. That water would 621 00:42:29,625 --> 00:42:32,425 go down and never get past the Lone 622 00:42:32,425 --> 00:42:36,080 Star Bridge. That little star, it would clog 623 00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:39,120 up completely. And what they didn't call the 624 00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:44,240 right down the road on track. It's same 625 00:42:44,240 --> 00:42:47,935 thing down there. Because of all the cameracks 626 00:42:47,935 --> 00:42:51,135 that's real good in it. And lower wings. 627 00:42:52,415 --> 00:42:57,215 I don't know that. I took some new 628 00:42:57,215 --> 00:43:03,420 cameracks out. Somebody ripped from Lone Star Road 629 00:43:03,740 --> 00:43:05,900 up quite a ways and took the tamarack 630 00:43:05,900 --> 00:43:09,900 dug them out. They just dropped them back 631 00:43:09,900 --> 00:43:14,155 down in the water. It's gonna create a 632 00:43:14,155 --> 00:43:17,115 hell of a problem. Well, the canal company 633 00:43:17,115 --> 00:43:19,675 cleaned a bunch of the canal dumped it 634 00:43:19,675 --> 00:43:24,890 in the stock. The canal loss cleaned. They 635 00:43:24,890 --> 00:43:27,210 cleaned the canals on our farm and dumped 636 00:43:27,210 --> 00:43:31,770 them in the stock. Yeah, but. So I 637 00:43:31,770 --> 00:43:33,770 mean, even for like through my farm, the 638 00:43:33,770 --> 00:43:37,945 Kenton farm, it's the wash these That'll work. 639 00:43:37,945 --> 00:43:45,785 The the stock and. That's right. Pictures the 640 00:43:45,785 --> 00:43:48,025 last three years of what it feels just 641 00:43:48,025 --> 00:44:11,445 for the rates. Yep. Is a big problem 642 00:44:11,445 --> 00:44:15,045 that they do not need. He's got to 643 00:44:15,045 --> 00:44:17,390 go down with his backhoe over to the 644 00:44:17,390 --> 00:44:19,790 highways and clean the canal out because the 645 00:44:19,790 --> 00:44:24,190 county doesn't do their jobs. Do. Actually took 646 00:44:24,190 --> 00:44:27,150 a track over there. So we all went 647 00:44:27,150 --> 00:44:31,390 track. And that tracks coming down so fast. 648 00:44:31,710 --> 00:44:34,325 We didn't think that it was going to 649 00:44:34,325 --> 00:44:36,645 be cleaned out in time. Then they're running 650 00:44:36,645 --> 00:44:45,285 over time. But we are talking about the 651 00:44:45,285 --> 00:44:48,210 stuff that they had itself, But all the 652 00:44:48,210 --> 00:44:51,890 references, the output canal to the river, the 653 00:44:51,890 --> 00:44:54,370 output part of this assessment to make sure 654 00:44:54,370 --> 00:44:57,890 it's going to function as planned. The associated 655 00:44:57,890 --> 00:44:59,810 with the demand and upstream of the management. 656 00:45:01,855 --> 00:45:07,535 Yeah, that's really important. Dads are protected within 657 00:45:07,535 --> 00:45:14,690 the. My personal opinion, That damn field about 658 00:45:14,690 --> 00:45:19,730 three quarters full right now. It'd be gone. 659 00:45:20,770 --> 00:45:24,049 There's no doubt in my mind. Because of 660 00:45:24,049 --> 00:45:27,089 the gopher names and whatever squirrels and the 661 00:45:27,089 --> 00:45:36,345 poles and stuff. But. They definitely expected. Charges 662 00:45:36,345 --> 00:45:41,145 us. We feed and inspect it for poles 663 00:45:41,145 --> 00:45:46,740 or. That they find them, then they notify 664 00:45:46,740 --> 00:45:52,339 us. I would park doing that. The rest 665 00:45:52,339 --> 00:46:14,000 of the notes. Issue because. There has been 666 00:46:14,000 --> 00:46:16,720 times where they've said that they're they call 667 00:46:16,720 --> 00:46:22,400 them animal girls on there and and other 668 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:25,345 thing that they will talk about it, it 669 00:46:25,345 --> 00:46:28,305 depends on the type of plant that grows 670 00:46:28,305 --> 00:46:33,984 on certain snippets. If it's like a mosquito 671 00:46:33,984 --> 00:46:37,070 or something, we'll run along the lead. Then 672 00:46:37,070 --> 00:46:40,750 those need to be eradicated. But then not 673 00:46:40,750 --> 00:46:43,310 that grow big because if they grow big, 674 00:46:43,310 --> 00:46:51,995 they're gonna. And then the water. We took 675 00:46:51,995 --> 00:46:56,795 those out over the last few years. Upon 676 00:46:56,795 --> 00:47:02,075 the the end, there should have been. Was 677 00:47:02,075 --> 00:47:04,795 in front of all the data. And I 678 00:47:04,795 --> 00:47:07,990 know that they have. As far as the 679 00:47:07,990 --> 00:47:09,829 channel, I know that they've been out there 680 00:47:09,829 --> 00:47:13,990 and part of the channel for reasons channel. 681 00:47:14,789 --> 00:47:17,430 I think they do that almost every year. 682 00:47:17,430 --> 00:47:19,109 They have to run it for quite a 683 00:47:19,109 --> 00:47:33,115 while. Some of those. There's places that it 684 00:47:33,115 --> 00:47:38,240 isn't for meeting him. On both sides. That's 685 00:47:38,240 --> 00:47:43,520 Tamarac 10 foot tall up there. It it 686 00:47:43,520 --> 00:47:47,280 built up. It would go around those no 687 00:47:47,280 --> 00:48:10,310 way it could keep from them. That. We 688 00:48:11,990 --> 00:48:15,125 taking those out. If they go down the 689 00:48:15,125 --> 00:48:18,965 progress up and down, we'll track. That will 690 00:48:18,965 --> 00:48:23,125 track probably everybody below is gonna sue me. 691 00:48:24,885 --> 00:48:33,740 I've got. Notifications, I wasn't even notified. I 692 00:48:33,740 --> 00:48:35,819 was sending it up in the mail or 693 00:48:35,819 --> 00:48:43,355 anything. So, This is another question for speed 694 00:48:43,355 --> 00:48:48,475 on notification. Yeah, so it seems to me 695 00:48:48,475 --> 00:48:53,035 that unfortunately several people didn't get these notices 696 00:48:53,035 --> 00:48:56,380 and I I highly ask that you guys 697 00:48:56,380 --> 00:49:00,620 please, fill out that comment card, provide your 698 00:49:00,620 --> 00:49:04,620 contact information so that in the next meeting 699 00:49:04,620 --> 00:49:07,180 that we have for the public, I can 700 00:49:07,180 --> 00:49:12,275 notify you directly. So please do, provide your 701 00:49:12,275 --> 00:49:15,714 information. You could do the comment card. You 702 00:49:15,714 --> 00:49:18,755 can email me. You can use the website 703 00:49:18,755 --> 00:49:22,355 comment form to submit your information, but please 704 00:49:22,355 --> 00:49:26,230 provide your concern stating, like, for example, that 705 00:49:26,230 --> 00:49:28,710 you were not notified before and would like 706 00:49:28,710 --> 00:49:31,670 to be added to the mailing list. So 707 00:49:31,670 --> 00:49:35,029 I apologize for not emailing you directly at 708 00:49:35,029 --> 00:49:40,645 this time. Alright, thank you. If there's a 709 00:49:40,645 --> 00:49:45,365 neighbor that's similar situation that you think might 710 00:49:45,365 --> 00:49:48,485 be interested in and not get notified, if 711 00:49:48,485 --> 00:49:52,240 you could encourage them to contact us, Because 712 00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:59,200 we want the community part of it across. 713 00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,680 Next time on the meet, we're gonna come 714 00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:05,225 in with some ideas on how to fix 715 00:50:05,225 --> 00:50:08,985 it. So, question is really important to all 716 00:50:08,985 --> 00:50:11,225 of you if we're raising the dam, where 717 00:50:11,225 --> 00:50:14,025 does the material come? What are those impacts? 718 00:50:14,025 --> 00:50:17,460 What does it look like? Is there a 719 00:50:17,460 --> 00:50:19,380 way we can get a copy of your 720 00:50:19,380 --> 00:50:25,540 slide presentation on paper somehow? Christina, did you 721 00:50:25,540 --> 00:50:29,460 hear that? Yes, yes. We do have it. 722 00:50:29,460 --> 00:50:32,885 We will be posting this PowerPoint presentation as 723 00:50:32,885 --> 00:50:36,005 a PDF on the website, as well as 724 00:50:36,005 --> 00:50:38,325 the video recording that we're doing right now 725 00:50:38,325 --> 00:50:42,885 on the website. To print and provide, I 726 00:50:42,885 --> 00:50:46,680 will have to double check with, but I'm 727 00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,000 not sure if that was something that we 728 00:50:49,080 --> 00:50:51,880 were supposed to be doing. For sure, it 729 00:50:51,880 --> 00:50:54,040 will be available on the website for you 730 00:50:54,040 --> 00:50:59,255 guys to print and download. I think the 731 00:50:59,255 --> 00:51:02,135 website is on this piece of paper. So 732 00:51:02,135 --> 00:51:09,575 will be available. Future project information will be 733 00:51:09,575 --> 00:51:16,200 updated as. Yes, at the website. Yeah, on 734 00:51:16,200 --> 00:51:18,760 the website we will have the draft plan 735 00:51:18,760 --> 00:51:23,815 EA document when it becomes available, and we'll 736 00:51:23,815 --> 00:51:26,135 be sending out those mailing notices to inform 737 00:51:26,135 --> 00:51:29,575 everyone about that and that also where to 738 00:51:29,575 --> 00:51:32,695 go to download it and review. We may 739 00:51:32,695 --> 00:51:35,415 have a hard copy available at the library 740 00:51:35,415 --> 00:51:39,890 for people to review there in person. So 741 00:51:39,890 --> 00:51:41,730 just know that the website will be a 742 00:51:41,730 --> 00:51:44,450 go to place for people as a resource. 743 00:51:45,410 --> 00:51:48,050 But also please call and ask or email 744 00:51:48,050 --> 00:51:51,090 me if you have any questions, because I 745 00:51:51,090 --> 00:51:53,535 will definitely direct it to the right person 746 00:51:53,535 --> 00:51:57,135 and get a response when it becomes available. 747 00:52:02,575 --> 00:52:04,895 Are there any other questions in person here 748 00:52:04,895 --> 00:52:07,290 before we go to opening the floor for 749 00:52:07,290 --> 00:52:19,545 virtual people? So is it on mute? Okay, 750 00:52:19,545 --> 00:52:22,744 so everyone we do have one. Go to 751 00:52:22,744 --> 00:52:29,065 the check. Don't start row. There's around track. 752 00:52:29,065 --> 00:52:34,210 I got about 88%. I know. Right? Well, 753 00:52:34,210 --> 00:52:36,210 the water things out, she's on both sides 754 00:52:36,210 --> 00:52:41,890 of the. That's one of the concerns I 755 00:52:41,890 --> 00:52:52,625 have. Keeping that channel clean. It's the road. 756 00:52:52,625 --> 00:52:54,145 Did you ever fix the road? The road 757 00:52:54,145 --> 00:52:56,225 was slumps that went right into the field 758 00:52:56,225 --> 00:53:03,010 and it Cut anywhere near the top. That's 759 00:53:03,010 --> 00:53:08,130 another issue that the approach that's on. And 760 00:53:08,610 --> 00:53:14,425 when I asked the highway department that they 761 00:53:15,385 --> 00:53:18,425 indicate that they haven't done any location on 762 00:53:18,425 --> 00:53:22,905 that. I don't know if it's what the 763 00:53:22,905 --> 00:53:34,050 telemetry thought, but. Any other comments? I guess 764 00:53:34,050 --> 00:53:35,329 you can go to those and see if 765 00:53:35,329 --> 00:53:39,505 there's any comments online. Yeah, we're looking at 766 00:53:39,505 --> 00:53:44,785 the chat, and we also have everybody unmuted 767 00:53:44,785 --> 00:53:46,705 so that they can go ahead and unmute 768 00:53:46,705 --> 00:53:56,240 themselves. And again, if, you guys have any 769 00:53:56,240 --> 00:53:58,480 other further questions you want to ask, you 770 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:02,559 have until June 15, to provide us your 771 00:54:02,559 --> 00:54:13,525 questions and concerns. We're not seeing anything right 772 00:54:13,525 --> 00:54:21,220 now. Well, I really appreciate everyone taking the 773 00:54:21,220 --> 00:54:24,260 time to be here today and to definitely 774 00:54:24,260 --> 00:54:28,820 let us know about your concerns. If there's 775 00:54:28,820 --> 00:54:31,415 no further questions, then I guess this meeting 776 00:54:31,415 --> 00:54:34,935 is over. And thank you again. We will 777 00:54:34,935 --> 00:54:37,975 document this, and we will post the video 778 00:54:37,975 --> 00:54:41,095 and the PowerPoint presentation as a PDF file 779 00:54:41,255 --> 00:54:44,770 on the website. So give us, I think 780 00:54:44,770 --> 00:54:46,690 maybe about a week or two to get 781 00:54:46,690 --> 00:54:48,930 that going, but we will have it up 782 00:54:48,930 --> 00:54:51,170 there on the website for people to download. 783 00:54:52,049 --> 00:54:54,049 So I thank you guys very much for 784 00:54:54,049 --> 00:55:03,745 your time. So a week or two and 785 00:55:03,745 --> 00:55:06,865 a week, it's going to be rolling around 786 00:55:06,865 --> 00:55:12,460 and talking to you. The date. Because my 787 00:55:12,460 --> 00:55:13,980 husband's out of the country and I know 788 00:55:13,980 --> 00:55:15,020 that he's going to want to.