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So our regular city council regular meeting. It is 6 p.m. Tuesday, September 15, 2026. We are at

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Grandbury city all 116 was bridge street and Grandbury, Texas. I will remind you again that you may

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watch this meeting live or later on www.grandbury.org slash live. I also want to announce that council

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personal alum is appearing via a video conference to Texas local government code section 551-127.

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And the quorum of the government body is physically present in the room at Grandbury City Hall 116

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West Bridge Street, Grandbury, Texas 76048. And with that, we're going to go ahead and get started.

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I'm going to call it to order. The first thing we'll do is I will ask Mr. Hague if anybody got

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But with you today to ask if you would open us up with prayer.

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Thank you.

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We'll stand and then we'll do the pledge of allegiance, we'll be right back.

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Pray with me, please.

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Our gracious Heavenly Father, we're so grateful for the blessings that you've given to us.

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The blessings of our freedoms, the blessings of living in this wonderful community.

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The blessings of caring for each other.

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Father, we've discussed the business of our community this evening.

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We pray that your spirit of peace and love will be upon us.

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We pray that you grant wisdom not just on the decision-makers, but on those who are in attendance and that people will listen with love and kindness and

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Treat each other as Christ to treat us with love. It's in his name that we pray. Amen

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We

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have proclamations, declarations tonight, presentations, go ahead with the proclamation

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right here.

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I have statements that I need to make tonight and this is pretty important, this note, please.

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Presentations and proclamations. For tonight, Council persons,

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Olam, Corrigan, Overdeer, Parker, Mayor, Pro Tem,

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Wadley, and myself, Mayor Jarrett, have all received certifications of

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recall petitions as to Council persons, Olam, Corrigan, and Overdeer, Mayor,

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Pro Tem, Wadley and Mayor Jarrett. So pursuant to section 4.08 of the city

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charter, any council person who receives a petition for

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recall has the right to request a public hearing in writing by presenting to the council.

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I have received such a request in writing from Councilperson Corrigan, Councilperson

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Olam, Councilperson Overdeer, Mayor Proteum Wadley, and I, Mayor Jarrett, I'm also submitting

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to the City Council my formal written request for a public hearing.

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This public hearing will be scheduled within the time period as required by Texas Law and the Grand

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Berry City Charter. So we had to make that announcement tonight and so now we're ready for proclamations and

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you ladies make them one up please. Thank you I

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remember five years ago when I was asked to do this

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I say, you kidding me, now I look forward to it so much.

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This is an official proclamation as well, whereas the monarch butterfly is the Texas state

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insect and is known as the ambassador of the Americas for its multi-generation 3,000-mile

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migration across Canada, the United States, and Mexico, whereas thousands of monarch butterflies

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as fastly Texas each fall on their journey to Mexico, including Grand Beres.

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Green spaces, where they seek nectar, rich flowers, and whereas monarch butterfly populations

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are declining, in part due to habitat loss, making the preservation and creation of suitable

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habitat increasingly important, and whereas the Lake Grandbury master gardeners promote

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monarch butterfly conservation through their demonstration garden, educational programs,

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and annual outreach encouraging the planning of milkweed and nectar producing plants throughout

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Grandbury and Hood County. Now therefore I, Jim Jared, Mayor of the City of Grandbury,

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Texas, to hereby proclaim the month of October 2026 as Monarch Mutterfly Migration Month in Grandbury

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and encourage all citizens to support efforts to provide habitat for Monarch butterflies during their

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migration through Granbury and Hood County.

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This is given under my hand in the seal of the City of

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Granbury on this 15th of September, 2026.

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Now, I'm going to get you the good looking plaque.

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Because it's just,

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yeah, I do.

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Let me get that good looking plaque.

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We'll take pictures.

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You go right ahead.

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OK.

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So Mayor Jarrett, City Council, I can't tell you how much this

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means to us as late Granbury Master Gardener's as we

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partner with the City of Granbury.

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It is our quest to make the City of Grandbury and Hood County a stopping place, a place on the map, so that people know to come, to spend the night, to monitor butterflies are going to fly in during their migration anyway.

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Hood County is right in the funnel where they come for the migration.

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Without getting into a science class, we're getting generation number three that's coming into Grandbury right now.

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Mama is laying her eggs on milkweed.

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It's those babies.

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It's those monarchs that end up in Mexico.

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They're born in Granberry.

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Woohoo.

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So we roll out the welcome mat.

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We welcome the monarch butterflies to Granberry.

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We want everybody in Granberry to understand

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that October is monarch migration month.

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So we are encouraging everyone to get your milkweed growing,

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get everything in your nectar plants growing,

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and you're ready to welcome the butterflies as they fly in.

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It's very important to us, this proclamation, to continue this effort for

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Granberry to be on the map for the place for the migrating monarchs to be and

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for people to observe that migration. So thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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We appreciate you.

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Thank you.

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So I have heard that some parts of that.

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On Saturday I have moved to third.

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I am going to ask Robert.

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We are hosting the Romance in the Monarch.

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Romance in the Monarch Butterfly Festival.

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Every year it is the first Saturday on October.

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Please join us for this free event.

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It is in the Lake Remberay Master Gardener demonstration garden from 1.30 to 4.

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or we release up to 200 live monarch butterflies.

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We've got all kinds of things for the kids to do,

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face painting, lots of educational items

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about the life cycle of the monarch butterflies.

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We have a three minute rule.

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We have a three minute rule.

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We have a three minute rule.

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And we have a three minute rule.

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We have a three minute rule.

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And we have a three minute rule.

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Thank you.

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Thank you

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so much.

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Continuing on the agenda here,

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we have the city council, city manager,

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is you encouraging statements and recognize city staff

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this and next yeah yeah I've got a couple

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videos if we could thank you Carla.

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We've

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had 51 days in a row over 100 degrees.

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There you go.

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Pictures worth thousand words. We have one other video as well.

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Oh, I'm supposed to be reading something. Yes, please. I didn't bring the script.

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What you're seeing here took place last week at

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Perot Field at Alliance Airport, which included our Mayor, Council Members, Skip Overdeer, Deputy City Manager, Michael Ross, Assistant City Manager, John Copeland, and Director of Aviation, Cody Mathis.

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They were invited to the field to see the demonstration of a new generation of vehicles, EVTOLs, electric take-off and landing airplanes.

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This is the future, it was a text.sponsored event and this is being shown to you tonight, not because it's coming to Grandbury Regional Airport tomorrow, but to let you know that our council and our staff are interested in the latest technology and what is possible in the future, including Grandbury.

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Thank you, sir.

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Thank you appreciate y'all going to that very important meeting and I will say that we are seeking to have this technology

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to be placed in Granbury at our airport the program the council government is trying to set up five different locations throughout the 16 county region utilizing airports to develop the FAA regulations associated with this type of vehicle

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and we want to be a part of that and, you know, we're looking forward to the day

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when you can come to Grimberry Airport, park your car, and get on one of these

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and fly to another airport. And maybe it's DFW, maybe it's Lovefield, maybe it's

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San Antonio, maybe it's Austin. This is what the future's beginning to look like.

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And ten years, the technology's already here. The only thing holding this back

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right now are the FAA guidelines. And so that's what's going on. So it's pretty exciting stuff.

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We'll see how progress is. And obviously it'd be a big draw for our airport for people to be able

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to drive here from Comanche. You get on one of these and fly on into the DFW Airport to get on their

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bigger plane to go wherever they're going. So it's the shape of things to come. George Jetson, thank you.

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I appreciate the video to appreciate y'all go on. Mayor, I'm sure you've got some words about what you experience and the others might want to say something.

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This was an invite only event and Grandbury got invited. Now, that does not mean that we have somebody coming into our backyard tomorrow the next day with one of these EVTOs.

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Although, I will say that City Councilman Copman has, and this is going to be the first time he finds out, he has signed up to fly first.

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Well, skip wanted to be first.

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Okay. Okay. Anyway, we are actively pursuing this. There are a couple of grants that have been written that we are looking at at this point in time for the battery operations that would be necessary to plug these in. One of the battery guys was at the show, and they showed the battery that plugs into this unit and charges it fully in about 24 minutes. And I thought about that.

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But literally, the head of the plug is bigger than my head.

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It's huge, so it doesn't fit on my watch or phone or anything like that.

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But yeah, I guess that would charge us up at about 24 minutes.

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So I say that the future is already here.

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It's just a matter now, mapping out the FAA airspace and testing, testing, three-year testing

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program, testing, testing, and then see about how this really impacts Grandbury coming

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down the road.

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One of the things that you saw a couple of three planes there, one was a six-passenger,

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one was something like a four-pasture, and one I might call a panel truck because it delivers

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There's medication supplies, it delivers emergency equipment, it's like a 750 pound payload

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and can get into places that, you know, half the size of this room.

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So it's going to be fun over the next few years, for sure.

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And all of this story, what, 15 years ago, somebody started the airport 15 years ago to get

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just where we are today.

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Council, skip, you were there, Bruce.

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No, you were there.

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Well, I'm going to let Mr. Kaufman be the first one

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to ride on that.

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But I'm wrestle.

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So I've got a little bit of experience

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with unmanned aircraft when I was in the Air Force.

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Although the only ones that I have to work on,

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I think they delivered was missiles and bombs.

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So this one will be a little bit different.

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It will be a lot more friendly to us.

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And certainly at some point it'll be very convenient for our citizens to be able to get on an airplane like that and actually go to DFW or one of those fields.

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And instead of having to drive from here to Dallas, as you know how long that takes, this probably take you about less than 30 minutes in that.

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So it's going to be a lot safer and a lot faster.

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But it like the mayor said, it's not going to happen tomorrow.

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This is just something that's probably many years down the road.

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But they're working on it and we're hoping that we're going to get it here in Grandbury.

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other comments? The video does say it all with that 103 degree temperature out there and seeing the

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men and women that you know they're there they're making it happen. I do have before we go to

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public comments on agenda items for non-public I want to note that agenda item 8.3 which is section 551.087

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and deliberation regarding economic development negotiations, Project Patriot has been withdrawn

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from the agenda and will not be discussed this evening.

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I don't see anyone that signed up to speak on that, so I'm going to go ahead and go to

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the public comments.

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Number five, on agenda items for non-public hearing agenda items, speakers have a time limit

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of three minutes allotted for comments regarding the agenda items that are not listed as public

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public hearing comments we recognize when the public hearing is open I don't

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believe we even have any public hearings tonight. Possibly one. I don't know. Okay.

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Very good. Okay I'm gonna go ahead and open up the public comments here. Are the

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for non-Jim Adams. Mr. Todd Hayes.

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On 7.1 if you'll just give us your name and your

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address? It'll be great.

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Todd Hayes, 23, 0, 5,

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Wynton, Terrace Court, Grandbury, Texas, 7, 6, 0, 4, 8.

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Mayor and Council, thank you. My name is Todd Hayes. I'm not here tonight to

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argue for Oregon State of Centers. I'm asking that we be very precise about what

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item 7.1 does and does not protect. I understand the mayor's explanation that the

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The setback discussion is being considered in mind of existing state and TCEQ requirements.

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My first question is straight forward.

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If a state or TCEQ standard is the reason a local setback is considered unnecessary, could

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we identify the specific rule?

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What equipment or facility it applies to, how the distance is measured, and what impact

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that rule is actually intended into...

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I ask because the state of Texas itself is currently looking at data centers much more broadly than

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property line distance. The governor's data center audit calls for information on power

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demand and generation, water consumption, water sources, and cooling technology. And

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neighbor impacts including noise, lighting, setbacks, traffic and emergency response. And just

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yesterday, the governor directed the water development board to enforce water use reporting

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requirements for major users including data centers. So what I'm really trying to understand

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is the division of responsibility. What is the state regulate, what is TCEQ regulate,

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and what does ERCOT, or the PUC regulate, and what remains the city's responsibility.

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For a future large project, I also think the public should understand what numbers will actually

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be measured and verified. Water source and use, what is delivery or withdrawal versus consumption

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for use in wastewater or return flow, power demand and generation and neighborhood impacts

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such as noise.

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Ranberry is also making a major long-term investments in its water system.

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I'm not alleging those investments are connected in any way to any particular product or project.

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I'm sorry.

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I simply want to understand whether prospective large industrial loads are included in the

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demand forecast used to size that infrastructure.

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And if they are, how incremental infrastructure costs would be allocated.

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My request is simple, show us the applicable rule, show us what will be measured, tell

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us who verifies it, and show us where the public can see the record.

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That gives developers clear expectations, gives citizens reliable information, and gives

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everyone the same set of facts.

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Thank you.

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Thank you Mr. Hayes,

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Ms. Carolyn Fawber,

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if others have handouts, if you go ahead and get

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with us to miss Walker over here, that would be appreciated.

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I'm going to follow with Mr. Mark Bennett or Mack Bennett.

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Actually, Mrs. Meredith Bennett will be first, and then Mr. Bennett, Ms. Faubert.

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Carolyn Baubert, 2560, Metta Wood Road.

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Metta Wood Road is where the Monarch butterflies migrate across from one side to the other.

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Unfortunately, I have smashed a few on my windshield in years they're heavy in their migration.

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We are also in the flight path of our great new airport.

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Agenda item 7.1, I'd like to preface my remarks with Proverbs 13-11.

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Wealth gained by dishonesty will be diminished, but he who gathers by labor will increase.

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So here we are, finally, talking about data centers.

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January 6th, when the chamber was packed and overflowing into the parking lot, Mayor

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Jarrett interrupted anyone who mentioned data center.

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You can only talk about the annexation.

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Coffin and Cerelles boldly stated on camera, we have no idea what will be built there.

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We don't know, not one plan has been submitted to this council.

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But on January 6th by Lateral Energy, whose website boasts purpose-built power for multi-gigawatt

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campuses already had a TCEQ permit. In fact, in November, they had submitted a master

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campus plan to the city. Mr. Kaufman said he had never seen that map. Yet on July 2nd,

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he had sent a letter of support, promising a, quote, seamless annexation and permitting process.

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Yes.

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And everything was going seamlessly until the city made a mistake and put the wrong address.

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Attract owned by the city itself, but they were in a hurry.

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So instead of correcting it, they ploughed ahead.

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And that illegal zoning is still under litigation, as is the legitimacy.

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Are you going to talk about that before one?

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Yeah, data centers.

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The legitimacy of five, six of this council and the mayor.

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We talk about data centers as if they are quiet buildings with computers inside like the one the council visited in Dallas or the one Mr. Kaufman drove around in Roanoke and showed at the Chamber luncheon those get their electricity from the grid.

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By lateral is open cycle gas turbines, jet engines, and they just ask TCEQ to expand their permit for more of them.

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To put this in perspective, I look at-

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Tell you what, when we start talking about data centers, we're going to get back to you, but right now you're interrupting all of the folks behind you, and I'm going to ask that you go ahead and start-

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Start talking. Start talking. And I'd like to see the audience to refrain, please. I am talking about data centers, data centers and their power plants. This data center on how to withdraw. We're talking about the ordinance has a power plant and we need an ordinance for it. A data center power plant is like a diesel generator that's running next door to you 24 or 7.

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It's

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been at 3530 Daniels Court, I'm thinking about what we are and are not supposed to be

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talking about tonight.

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So we are not allowed to talk about standards, EPA, anything like that on data centers or

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gas power plants.

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The, no.

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You can talk about that.

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Do you have this hold?

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I don't know.

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I'm just going to leave.

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20 pages here of the ordinance.

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But if you're just talking about data centers we're not talking about data centers

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We're talking about the ordinances that we need as a city and as a community to control the operation of those

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The one that we have stuck on here is basically how far do you want to go with

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To get to the property lines

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Okay, okay, and maybe let me let me let me interrupt them, okay, and you get all your time

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The interruption on this is that there is a rule passed in the Texas House last year,

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House Bill 2127, it's called the Texas Regulatory Consistency Act.

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It is another one of the Texas State Legislature's attempts to take everything from the city

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as it relates to how we manage our own business as close as we can to our own citizens.

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and make it look like the county.

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In the past, the city has been able to govern local matters unless the legislature clearly

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says it cannot.

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This legislation says if the state has entered this regulatory field, the city cannot regulate

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there unless the legislature has expressly, expressly authorize the city to do so.

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So, in other words, if they have a legislation in one of the fields and that's one of the

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issues with it, then we can't do anything.

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It supersedes.

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Now, move forward to January,

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let me say,

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January 30, 2025.

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It's the air quality standard permit for natural gas, electric generating units, effective

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January 30, 2025.

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Engines must be located at least 25 feet from the nearest point on the property line.

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The maximum number of engines that may be authorized under this standard permit depends on

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the distance from the property line to the nearest engine but may not exceed six engines.

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And the minimum distance to the property line for six engines is 900 feet.

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So that now is Texas legislation, which we follow, we follow Texas legislation.

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So if you want to talk about the legislation, talk to me about the particular, the specifics

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so that we can have a conversation.

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Okay, well, I don't know how specific it is.

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You know, I just went to the EPA.gov website today and talked about fossil fuels and power

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Our plants create emissions of the sulfur dioxide, nitrogen oxides, particulate matter, carbon

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dioxide, mercury, and other pollutants.

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These emissions can cause serious health problems for health of those around it in foreign

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distance and impacts our environment.

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And who wants all that in our lungs, where all these families here are living next to or

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to it?

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Well, and I would turn the page, I choose not to read all of the specs that are in this

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document.

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In fact, January 30, 2025.

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Well, I do know that Texas has really lax rules, you know, as far as what is a good

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standard for people, you know.

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So, these pollutants travel long distances, they impact, well, they just impact locally.

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Mill miles away. So I live about 2,000 feet from where the power plant is going to be. And everything

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I have read says you shouldn't be in within one to two miles because these pollutants will

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travel one to two miles. There's people that live right in the back door and it goes to sound,

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It goes to water,

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it just, I'm just having a hard time understanding where you all are

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protecting us, you know.

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My husband's volunteer firefighter, he's been one for decades and he's recovering from

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a ankle replacement and he protects this community for decades, 24-7, along with all these other

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or police officers, EMS, and y'all are sitting out here

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and I don't feel protected.

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I feel like, you don't care.

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And these families have children.

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And they're living in the back of these places

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with pollution that is going to harm their health

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and their future.

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And to me, I don't know.

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It's just sound, water, air, and y'all have been lax on coming forward to making standards

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to protect us, and that's all I have to say.

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Thank you.

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And I appreciate your patience with me.

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Thank you.

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Mr. Billing.

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Mac, been at 3530 Daniels Court.

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I'll follow up on what my wife said, you know, look at your concept plan, and I actually

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Google map from my back porch to the energy campus is what it's labeled on the

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concept plan. To the center of that to my back porch is 2,063.5 feet. If you take

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like second-chance farm Sandy Walker from her back porch to the center of

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that's 520 feet. You take like sawing your bird. You take for more her house is

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going to be that's 783 feet. I mean in the list goes on with everybody else up

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down the matter would like said it's not defined into concept plan what the

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energy campus is I'm assuming it's the generators but you know it can be

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something else but I just want to bring that to your attention it's even I know

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you all was talking about a setback roll 500 feet you know well they'll move it

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500 feet, but the buffer, depending on what they use for buffer stuff, may not make a difference

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because they have where I live and I know everybody else that over to Tollor, over to Railyard, over the

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sand plant stuff is you can actually hear when they're hooking and I'm hooking cars at 3 o'clock

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in the morning. I met that's how much the sound carries in our neighborhood around there.

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So, you know, I think that 500 puts not enough, a thousand would be better, a mile would

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be better.

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I mean, not even there would be better, you know, because that is pristine land.

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I worked there back in the said, because I can't avoid permissionals there when it used

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to be the Knox Ranch when it was owned by the Scottish Rides.

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I mean, the trees and the wildlife and stuff that run down rough creek there, I mean, unless

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you've actually been out on that land, you don't know how beautiful it is there in which

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Once this what's the stuff comes in I'm that they're just gonna level it out

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They're gonna be nothing there. Yeah, they'll plant some trees there, but

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Down there where the water compins or down are all for rough creek

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There's some of the oak trees and stuff that four people can't put the arms around

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I know this call be hundreds and hundreds of years

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I've been here as long as the counties even been established

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So you know one of the other things is you know the water con you know

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They say closed-loop system this that and everything else you I don't know if you've done it research

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starts on the closed loop system stuff there's actually six different closed loop systems.

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You know, it depends on which one they use if they go with the cheapest one, even the

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state art one that is not even available for the next 22 years.

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That's how much back order there is on it.

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You know, even with the TC department with the power plant stuff, they actually put on the

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permit that they'll use 150,000 gallons of water a day.

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So, if you time that out, that's 55 million gallons of water a year that they'll use.

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Very fine.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, sir.

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Mr. Kenneth Meader, and then the Miss Sharon Meader.

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If you guys would bring it to me.

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May I bring these up first? I would appreciate it.

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Mr. Mayor. Mayor council. My name is

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Mayor. 99-1-Poluxi Highway, Bluffdale, Texas, which I actually live in Poluxi. When we're

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talking about the ordinance that is being proposed, the city staff had drafted an ordinance to

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deal with regulating things for the city for this development and any other future potential

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developments of this type. When that went to the Planning and Zoning, the

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citizens had also came forward and presented to Planning and Zoning their

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version of what they thought was going to be a good ordinance to deal with

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this. After Planning and Zoning looked at both, they came to the conclusion that

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they thought that the citizen-submitted version was better. So that came

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before this council once and it was taken under advisement to kind of look

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at it. So there's actually three versions that are listed as a staff version,

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the citizen version and the citizen original. My understanding is the citizen

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original is what was presented and then what is being presented as the citizen

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version is cleaned up in proper language and format for use as an ordinance. I recommend

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that you go with planning zoning's recommendation. They've looked at everything in there already,

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made their recommendation. And that's what these people do for you is these people you have on

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on the planning zoning are there to advise you

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to give you recommendations on different things

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to do with zoning and planning for the future

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of this community.

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And that's what they're for.

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Use them.

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And when this was being discussed

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in council a little while back,

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Mayor Jarrett, you asked me one question.

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Because in the citizen version,

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we're talking about 1,000 foot setback.

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And you asked a question,

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and well how many acres is that?

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Okay, I'm pretty good at math and it depends.

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If you've got 10,000 acres in a complete rectangle

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or square, then that thousand feet

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is going to be a certain amount of acres.

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If you're talking about 2,000 acres,

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then it's going to be different acreage in comparison

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with as far as your percentages,

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because it's not taking into the same amount

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of property. So you have to look at what the percentages are of what's usable property

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after that. Thank you. Thank you Mr. Smith.

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I think if you guys have time or already

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looked there is a map in the back of the 7.1 year that details what a thousand what a hundred

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300-500 and 1,000-foot setback would be, sorry.

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Greetings. Can you hear me?

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Good morning.

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Greetings. I'm Sharon Metter, lifelong Hood County resident.

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I'm here to talk about the distance.

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The data center proximity to people would affect their health.

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The sound effects of noise and air quality, some known, some still being discovered,

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should be far, or still being discovered,

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they should be far from schools, nursing homes, and residents.

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Do not put the residents in danger.

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Studies should be done and redone to ensure safety.

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Public safety should be your main concern.

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If you're going to approve, no matter the opposition,

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the least you should do is have them as far away from neighboring property lines as

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possible. They were their first and have the right to live in peace. How close

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would you want it from your own property line, your bedroom window, your

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elderly parents, your grandkids? You have the responsibility to protect the

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people, not over extended resources.

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Do not do residents in danger.

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Thank you.

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Thank you.

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Mr. Farber and then Mr. Herbal.

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I'm Dan Fauber, 2560, Madam Wood Road. Didn't you want to see the irony of the city announcing

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Monarch Migration Month as it raises three square miles of native rent to build a data pool?

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Question for the city. Does the city think that bilateral energy is already vested under

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the current and inadequate data center zoning regulations? Please explain and public hearing

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exactly why in legal terms is agenda 7.1 that I'm speaking on on data center

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zoining zoning a pointless discussion for Project Patriot. You can answer that

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after I speak. This is key because bilateral energy does not own the Knox

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Ranch. The current owner is Dr. Ready of Houston through Readyland Partners which

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is not express public support for a massive data project.

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Biolateral energy has less legal standing in this case.

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The citizen amended zoning ordinance is helpful

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as the approach of proposes 1,000 foot setback

450
00:41:18,620 --> 00:41:21,240
from property lines and a special use permit

451
00:41:21,240 --> 00:41:23,560
required for data centers and power plants.

452
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:29,120
This is what a 1,000 foot setback looks like on the NOx range.

453
00:41:29,120 --> 00:41:33,120
You can see this is completely reasonable.

454
00:41:33,900 --> 00:41:40,260
We need you, the City Council, to pass this amendment and apply it to Project Patriot.

455
00:41:41,760 --> 00:41:50,220
The city proposed ordinance and requires us the special permit, special use permit for a

456
00:41:50,220 --> 00:41:53,860
daycare center but not a 932 megawatt power plant.

457
00:41:54,460 --> 00:41:54,840
Why?

458
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:56,480
That's illogical.

459
00:41:57,180 --> 00:42:01,060
All of these proposed amendments are inadequate for the following reason.

460
00:42:01,580 --> 00:42:07,360
The Grandbury noise ordinance only considers a noise violation to occur at a public roadway.

461
00:42:07,800 --> 00:42:12,580
That means the noise limits can be exceeded if the neighbor feels, and the neighbor's back

462
00:42:12,580 --> 00:42:19,540
yard at the neighbor's house, but it doesn't violate until it occurs exceeds at the road,

463
00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:20,900
which may be 500 feet.

464
00:42:20,900 --> 00:42:29,500
The proposed violation has no teeth, the $2,000 a day, 365-day violation of the proposed

465
00:42:29,500 --> 00:42:37,260
ordinances is less than .01% of the expected profit from this data center.

466
00:42:37,940 --> 00:42:44,220
In citizen terms, that's like a $10 a year fine for blasting your music 3-4 hours a day.

467
00:42:45,340 --> 00:42:51,180
The criminal screening doesn't work, the city has no idea what data center projects and

468
00:42:51,180 --> 00:42:56,460
the county will come to fruition, that makes your construction and the traffic management

469
00:42:56,460 --> 00:43:00,620
plan a sham, even only a few of the data centers were built.

470
00:43:01,340 --> 00:43:04,020
And this project will occur during 377 YD.

471
00:43:04,820 --> 00:43:11,320
The county isn't risked in being non-compliant, please hit the brakes, give us real regulations.

472
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:11,920
Thank you.

473
00:43:18,550 --> 00:43:25,910
Mr. Herbal, I may not like what was said, but I sure did like the way it was presented.

474
00:43:26,810 --> 00:43:30,870
Quick, concise, but data, thank you.

475
00:43:33,350 --> 00:43:34,230
Mr. Herbal.

476
00:43:44,250 --> 00:43:45,950
Jacob Herbal at a wood road.

477
00:43:48,860 --> 00:43:52,500
I hope my speed just here, you're liking, Mayor Jarrett.

478
00:43:52,500 --> 00:44:00,000
please consider adopting the thousand foot setback ordinance in April when we

479
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:04,120
pointed out weaknesses in the data center ordinances it was stated that we

480
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:09,400
could later amend these ordinances to make them stronger there's lots of

481
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:17,200
boasting about how the city can regulate more than the county so let's let's see

482
00:44:17,200 --> 00:44:24,000
here we are. Our neighborhood is surrounded by what you like to call project

483
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:30,960
patriot that you named. Our family's health and well-being is at stake. We have

484
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:35,040
concerns about air, sound, water, pollution near our homes.

485
00:44:37,800 --> 00:44:38,580
Again you just

486
00:44:41,240 --> 00:44:45,100
announced the proclamation for modern butterflies and

487
00:44:45,100 --> 00:44:51,360
Grandbury, consider planning milkweed in some of the setback space.

488
00:44:52,700 --> 00:44:57,040
And related to the data center ordinances, it took the city council longer than the

489
00:44:57,040 --> 00:44:59,980
a lot of 15 days that the city chartered.

490
00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:29,740
Councillor Gives to recognize the recall petition. So I'm not an expert on the matter, but I question if this city council is legitimate right now to be making decisions anyway. But with that said, or I'll end with this. We pray in the invocation that we would treat others the way Christ would have us treat each other with love. So I ask, please love your neighbor.

491
00:45:32,740 --> 00:45:41,360
consider how close you would want a power plant, data center complex by your home, by your property, by your family.

492
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:47,180
Please consider that when you vote for this ordinance.

493
00:45:47,820 --> 00:45:48,440
Thank you.

494
00:45:48,440 --> 00:45:49,520
Thank you.

495
00:45:55,500 --> 00:45:56,600
Anybody else?

496
00:45:56,900 --> 00:45:57,640
Ms. Walker?

497
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:58,500
Okay.

498
00:45:59,260 --> 00:46:03,300
All right, we're going to move along to number six, Consent Agenda.

499
00:46:05,020 --> 00:46:10,060
And all items on the Consent Agenda or Routine are previously discussed and will be approved

500
00:46:10,060 --> 00:46:10,960
with one motion.

501
00:46:11,280 --> 00:46:15,700
However, should remember, the City Council wish to discuss any item, said item may be removed

502
00:46:15,700 --> 00:46:19,440
from the Consent Agenda and considered under the deliberation agenda.

503
00:46:20,420 --> 00:46:25,280
Ladies and gentlemen, any one want to take anything off for further consideration,

504
00:46:29,390 --> 00:46:29,890
Mr.

505
00:46:30,070 --> 00:46:30,210
Ollum?

506
00:46:31,390 --> 00:46:32,210
No, sir.

507
00:46:32,730 --> 00:46:32,930
Okay.

508
00:46:34,110 --> 00:46:37,410
Then do I hear a motion to approve the consent agenda?

509
00:46:38,850 --> 00:46:39,410
Some move.

510
00:46:39,950 --> 00:46:40,970
Mr. Ollum makes the motion.

511
00:46:41,410 --> 00:46:41,690
Second.

512
00:46:42,590 --> 00:46:43,170
Second.

513
00:46:44,350 --> 00:46:45,650
Mr. Parker makes second.

514
00:46:46,250 --> 00:46:47,390
All in favor say aye.

515
00:46:47,830 --> 00:46:48,050
Aye.

516
00:46:48,550 --> 00:46:49,690
All opposed say nay.

517
00:46:52,530 --> 00:46:53,130
Aye.

518
00:46:53,990 --> 00:46:59,310
six and a, we do get to count Mr. Oliver because he's here, right?

519
00:47:03,290 --> 00:47:05,750
Okay, now we'll move to 7-1,

520
00:47:08,260 --> 00:47:09,620
I'll go ahead and read through this.

521
00:47:09,780 --> 00:47:14,420
Consider adopting ordinance number 26-51, amending the City of Granbury's zoning

522
00:47:14,420 --> 00:47:19,100
ordinance articles for the General Purpose System and Supplemental Standards for

523
00:47:19,100 --> 00:47:24,100
Data Centers and Power Generation and Mr. Kaufman.

524
00:47:24,100 --> 00:47:39,580
Thank you mayor. I'll turn it over to put you know in our director community development at this point for this agenda item. It came from planning and zoning and we heard it a month ago. I guess and here we are bringing it back.

525
00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:48,880
I would like to add that there was a lot to be discovered as mentioned earlier.

526
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:56,980
and the death star bill has known impacts what we do.

527
00:47:57,360 --> 00:48:05,720
So I would like to have a discussion here tonight to help us understand what you want to put in the ordinance.

528
00:48:06,220 --> 00:48:06,540
Thank you.

529
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:07,620
Go ahead, put me.

530
00:48:11,350 --> 00:48:12,690
Just a brief recap.

531
00:48:13,070 --> 00:48:17,950
This is what we had presented back at August 4th and to the PNZ.

532
00:48:17,950 --> 00:48:37,140
This gives it outlines the citizen's draft of the proposed SUP requirement and 1000 foot setback for the power generation and data center land uses and breaks that down further to what was actually written.

533
00:48:37,140 --> 00:48:38,180
This

534
00:48:40,190 --> 00:48:54,550
is what staff had proposed with a supplemental standard number two that is already existing with a site plan process, a 500 foot setback and a 300 foot setback for power generation and data center land uses.

535
00:49:00,240 --> 00:49:07,520
And so getting back to what was requested of staff looking at from the August 4th meeting, defining an SUV.

536
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:19,760
and NSUP is a tool to evaluate land use that is more intense in a zoning district or could be a nuisance for adjacent properties with similar zoning or uses or completely different.

537
00:49:20,820 --> 00:49:37,500
These requirements associated with NSUP include site plans, landscape plans, parking, building size height, construction materials, visual screening, and allow for planning and zoning commission in the city council to request additional information such as engineering analysis system.

538
00:49:37,500 --> 00:49:42,220
cases, expert evaluations or testimonies, and this allows for the planning and zoning

539
00:49:42,220 --> 00:49:46,700
and city council to make informed decisions when recommending approving or denying land

540
00:49:46,700 --> 00:49:50,020
use in a location that is not harmonious with adjacent properties.

541
00:49:51,460 --> 00:49:57,460
And number two, outlining the pros and cons of an SUV, and these are what staff concluded

542
00:49:57,460 --> 00:49:59,880
to be pros of an SUP.

543
00:50:01,010 --> 00:50:30,470
It allows for further review by PNZ and council, if there are concerns, PNZ and council can require additional conditions of a proposed use regulated by the approved site plan and document submitted. Public notice allows for neighbors to be informed of what the use is. Any deviation from the approved plans can result in the certificate of occupancy to be enjoyed and requires a new public hearing of both Planning and Zoning Commission and the city council if any changes from the original approved plans

544
00:50:30,470 --> 00:50:37,750
are requested. And the cons of an SUP additional land uses requiring SUP can

545
00:50:37,750 --> 00:50:41,590
slow down staff and bog down public hearings. For example, when short-term

546
00:50:41,590 --> 00:50:49,090
rentals required a SUP they were coming in in the boatloads and it was

547
00:50:49,090 --> 00:50:53,390
requested by P&Z and council to remove that requirement so that they would not

548
00:50:53,390 --> 00:50:59,250
have that many public hearings in one city. Now those are processed through a

549
00:50:59,250 --> 00:51:05,270
different permitting process through building permits and evaluated in a different way, but

550
00:51:05,270 --> 00:51:07,670
that is one downside of an SUP.

551
00:51:08,410 --> 00:51:12,670
That is the only downside that staff concluded could be a con for an SUP.

552
00:51:14,310 --> 00:51:22,750
And three, this was requested, a chart showing all the current land uses that require an SUP in any zoning district across the board.

553
00:51:23,570 --> 00:51:27,910
And there is a lot of them and I tried to get this as big as I could and

554
00:51:27,910 --> 00:51:28,950
and try to be legible.

555
00:51:38,240 --> 00:51:40,980
And number four, defining a regulatory taking.

556
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:44,800
There's no clear definition to a regulatory taking

557
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,500
in the terms of acreage percentages of a property,

558
00:51:48,200 --> 00:51:50,860
and an evaluation is needed on a case-by-case basis

559
00:51:50,860 --> 00:51:53,360
to show overall impact of a setback relative

560
00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:57,160
to the size of the parcel and or the proposed land use.

561
00:51:57,820 --> 00:51:59,740
A land use attorney or land use engineer

562
00:51:59,740 --> 00:52:02,600
could provide an opinion on whether a specific setback

563
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:06,040
for a specific project would constitute a regulatory taking.

564
00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:10,340
We also identified by Cornell

565
00:52:13,930 --> 00:52:19,390
University, their definition of a regulatory taking, identifies

566
00:52:19,390 --> 00:52:25,510
this relating to the Fifth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution, but further goes on to say

567
00:52:25,510 --> 00:52:32,070
there is no clear definition or identifier of what the regulatory taking could be except

568
00:52:32,070 --> 00:52:33,670
on a case-by-case basis.

569
00:52:33,670 --> 00:52:53,110
And staff prepared as well, a industrial park setback on just the random piece of property here in the city and this shows the one hundred foot current setback, the three hundred to five hundred foot and the thousand foot setbacks that have been proposed.

570
00:52:53,470 --> 00:52:54,010
Let me interrupt.

571
00:52:54,010 --> 00:52:58,310
But that is the industrial park that's already owned under PD.

572
00:52:59,130 --> 00:53:01,790
It's not at risk of this applying to that.

573
00:53:02,130 --> 00:53:06,650
This is an example for the public to see how one tube does not fit all.

574
00:53:06,970 --> 00:53:07,250
Thank you.

575
00:53:07,430 --> 00:53:07,570
Correct.

576
00:53:07,790 --> 00:53:08,030
Yes sir.

577
00:53:10,630 --> 00:53:11,210
Let me do that.

578
00:53:11,790 --> 00:53:12,050
Okay.

579
00:53:14,860 --> 00:53:17,460
Explain what the red inside the red is.

580
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:24,900
So inside that red would be the usable area from the thousand foot setback, all the property

581
00:53:24,900 --> 00:53:31,620
within the green and between the red and green would be the 500 foot setback. Everything

582
00:53:31,620 --> 00:53:39,220
from the black in would be the 300 foot setback and the 100 would be the blue in.

583
00:53:39,720 --> 00:53:46,860
And the table in the bottom left illustrates the usable area left after the setback is

584
00:53:46,860 --> 00:53:54,600
established for each respective number. So it kind of gives you a visual of how a 300

585
00:53:54,600 --> 00:54:01,000
take your track of land would be different than a larger track of land or a smaller track

586
00:54:01,000 --> 00:54:08,860
of land depending on your setback. So that's part of it. This is the track of land

587
00:54:08,860 --> 00:54:12,020
large enough to accommodate what you're wanting to do.

588
00:54:18,820 --> 00:54:23,380
In step recommends consider the various options and their impact on a given project and adopt

589
00:54:23,380 --> 00:54:29,240
an amending zoning ordinance for data center and power generation. And at the July 13th,

590
00:54:29,240 --> 00:54:34,760
2026 PNZ meetings, the Planning and Zoning Commission recommended approval of the

591
00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:38,260
SUP requirement and the thousand-foot setback by 6.0 vote.

592
00:54:39,160 --> 00:54:43,700
And the voting options approve the zoning ordinance amendment, approve the zoning ordinance

593
00:54:43,700 --> 00:54:47,800
amendment with changes or deny the zoning ordinance amendment.

594
00:54:48,420 --> 00:54:49,700
And that is all I have, Mr. Mayor.

595
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:59,960
I want to go back to the legislation, the House bill.

596
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:22,780
May 21, 27. It says, it states entered into this regulatory field, which they have, it's called data centers. The city cannot regulate there unless the legislature has expressly authorized the city to do so. So this standard permit has the,

597
00:55:25,180 --> 00:55:29,380
you know, so you can't start until we tell you that you can start.

598
00:55:29,380 --> 00:55:35,880
They need a copy of the manufacturer's design operation specs of all emission-related maintenance

599
00:55:35,880 --> 00:55:36,480
requirements.

600
00:55:36,780 --> 00:55:38,740
They need records of the performance testing.

601
00:55:39,340 --> 00:55:41,000
They hold those records for five years.

602
00:55:41,180 --> 00:55:49,920
They have continuous monitoring of the emission-related maintenance, they have records of self-content,

603
00:55:50,680 --> 00:55:53,580
visual emissions observations, sampling performed.

604
00:55:53,580 --> 00:56:00,220
They have stack parameters how high, how low, how hot, what kind of velocity comes out

605
00:56:00,220 --> 00:56:00,600
of them.

606
00:56:01,040 --> 00:56:05,820
Where you can put a piece of equipment, they have all of the specs here.

607
00:56:06,240 --> 00:56:18,920
My point being, we cannot decide that we will have stricter requirements than the state.

608
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:29,340
state. The state is like 900 feet for a perimeter, if you have six engines and they don't

609
00:56:29,340 --> 00:56:37,680
have a, there is not, there are no more. So why, why would we have a different ordinance

610
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:41,220
than the state when the state will come in and supersede us?

611
00:56:45,780 --> 00:56:47,880
Yeah, you're right, you won't.

612
00:56:49,510 --> 00:56:54,730
And this is, you know, this is new, came in January 30th, 2025,

613
00:56:58,680 --> 00:57:01,600
yes it did, it's under litigation, but it passed.

614
00:57:03,780 --> 00:57:21,740
It's still out there, and that's, yeah, it's the law today, and I'm not talking about that, I'm talking about this TCEQ permitting process, the standard permit for natural gas electric generating units, effective January 30th, 2025.

615
00:57:21,740 --> 00:57:28,960
5. Why would we put something in that is different from what's here?

616
00:57:32,960 --> 00:57:34,680
You know, I get yes.

617
00:57:38,680 --> 00:57:47,200
Here's a question. If we were to go against what the legislator, legislator, they've

618
00:57:47,200 --> 00:57:52,640
got control and if we were to say we're going to cut heads with you and do something different

619
00:57:52,640 --> 00:57:55,360
and what would be the consequence to our city?

620
00:57:55,940 --> 00:57:59,240
What are we putting our city at risk for?

621
00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:00,140
Litigation?

622
00:58:02,600 --> 00:58:03,180
At least.

623
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:03,940
At least.

624
00:58:05,520 --> 00:58:07,340
Another question, a follow-up question.

625
00:58:08,890 --> 00:58:13,940
I saw two examples here of the 1,000 foot setback.

626
00:58:14,480 --> 00:58:16,920
In the property that you had an example of,

627
00:58:16,940 --> 00:58:19,520
there was about 11% usage.

628
00:58:20,240 --> 00:58:22,660
And this gentleman's illustration,

629
00:58:22,660 --> 00:58:30,800
It looked like a much larger use that have we done a nox ranch at a thousand can you share with that with can you pull that up?

630
00:58:30,900 --> 00:58:30,960
Thank you.

631
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:31,480
You have it.

632
00:58:32,740 --> 00:58:46,480
So the nox ranch, the picture they all traded by the gentleman, Mr. Farber, does not include metalwood road, which would cause another a thousand foot barrier or buffer on both sides of that.

633
00:58:46,480 --> 00:58:47,000
Okay.

634
00:58:47,140 --> 00:58:55,320
So the math was 48% of the property would be usable drawn the way once that's all.

635
00:58:55,860 --> 00:58:56,100
Okay.

636
00:58:56,460 --> 00:59:04,480
So if only 48% of that property were usable based upon a previewing a thousand-foot setback,

637
00:59:04,900 --> 00:59:12,140
again, my question is what consequence could that bring to our city more litigation?

638
00:59:13,040 --> 00:59:19,880
That's where we were talking about it with previous meeting, a taking, where the government

639
00:59:19,880 --> 00:59:24,320
would be responsible to pay for that land.

640
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:31,060
Now that if TCQ has adopted a 900 foot buffer, that's the buffer.

641
00:59:31,960 --> 00:59:39,480
We don't have to worry about what we do, that's the state buffer, I mean, we have to deal

642
00:59:39,480 --> 00:59:40,040
with state laws.

643
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:50,000
We, you and I, took an oath to obey the U.S. Constitution, follow the Constitution, and not violate the Constitution, and follow all state and local laws.

644
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,060
And that's our job.

645
00:59:52,600 --> 00:59:55,960
And the state has a job to pass laws, and they've done that.

646
00:59:56,460 --> 00:59:58,000
And we have to obey those laws.

647
00:59:58,480 --> 00:59:59,740
If we pass it ordinance.

648
01:00:00,000 --> 01:00:28,140
More restrictive than we are not following the state law, especially when they tell us that you can't follow, do anything besides what we tell you in the state law. If we adopt something less than that and don't make them adhere to the state law, then we're in violation as well. So we have to follow the law. The laws are the laws. If the speed limit says 65 and we're going 70, we subject to a ticket.

649
01:00:28,140 --> 01:00:37,100
If we're going 45 on an interstate and it says minimum speed is whatever, if you're going below it, it's something to a ticket.

650
01:00:37,740 --> 01:00:41,720
But we do have regulations that we have to follow.

651
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:44,060
That's why we're being careful here.

652
01:00:44,820 --> 01:00:45,940
We're being careful.

653
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:51,620
So please step up to the microphone.

654
01:00:52,900 --> 01:00:56,240
So how does this affect what we've already adopted?

655
01:00:57,340 --> 01:01:02,060
The one that this we're supposed to be amending right now, is that even valid?

656
01:01:02,560 --> 01:01:04,500
Can we adopt it a few months ago?

657
01:01:06,340 --> 01:01:06,860
Questionable.

658
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:08,400
Questionable.

659
01:01:09,360 --> 01:01:12,820
Well, I was just wondering what the state law is then.

660
01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,560
How many feet does it say, or it doesn't say anything?

661
01:01:16,120 --> 01:01:16,560
I'm confused.

662
01:01:16,860 --> 01:01:17,160
900?

663
01:01:17,660 --> 01:01:19,280
The mayor read the statute.

664
01:01:20,920 --> 01:01:21,960
That's good.

665
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:23,620
For six generators.

666
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:24,920
Okay.

667
01:01:24,920 --> 01:01:29,680
Under the Permit Regulation Adopted in January of 2025.

668
01:01:30,460 --> 01:01:48,020
As soon as the authority of the Texas Clean Air Act, TCA, A, Texas Health and Safety Code, THSC, 382.05195, Standard Permit, and 30 Texas Administrative Code, TAC, Chapter 116 Subchapter F, Standard Permits.

669
01:01:48,320 --> 01:01:50,780
As I say so many times, I really need to get a life.

670
01:01:50,780 --> 01:01:54,770
If that's the law, which

671
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:00,780
is the mayor?

672
01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:01,840
Yes.

673
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:07,620
So, are we saying that if we change this from 1000 feet to 900, then we're okay, we're

674
01:02:07,620 --> 01:02:07,860
legal.

675
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:10,420
Yeah?

676
01:02:11,780 --> 01:02:17,940
If we meet all TCEQ standards, why wouldn't we just say that we meet Texas Law and all

677
01:02:17,940 --> 01:02:19,140
TCEQ standards?

678
01:02:19,940 --> 01:02:28,540
I mean, if we supersede it, you know, we have litigation and you know, what do you want

679
01:02:28,540 --> 01:02:28,780
to bet?

680
01:02:30,260 --> 01:02:37,660
I would just I would just add that we're already required to meet the state law. You don't need to codify that in your city code.

681
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:49,580
Simple as that. We have to follow state law. You can put in our ordinance to add that we're going to follow the state law if you want, but why?

682
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:56,500
I mean, we're going to do that anyway, but if that makes everybody happy, that's why I want you to tell us what you wanted in this ordinance.

683
01:02:56,500 --> 01:03:05,720
We can't just magically go away as staff members and come up with stuff beyond what the state law requires.

684
01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:15,600
So I think the Lord for what Mayor are doing is do diligence and providing that information to us as we went through this process.

685
01:03:15,940 --> 01:03:23,560
And here we are tonight not even more equipped to do this change than we were 45 days ago.

686
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:27,800
And we still have an engaged engineer in the process as well.

687
01:03:28,080 --> 01:03:35,400
I'm not sure we need an engineer whenever the state law is very clear about emission standards and all those things that we're concerned about.

688
01:03:35,860 --> 01:03:40,040
But the bottom line is, is the state of Texas is in control.

689
01:03:40,380 --> 01:03:46,760
They're campaigning politically that they're going to pass laws in the next session to regulate this even further.

690
01:03:46,760 --> 01:03:53,800
We're probably reducing cities and authority even further than we already have adopted it anyway.

691
01:03:54,040 --> 01:04:00,160
So we'll probably end up like the county with no ability to do anything other than what the state will allow.

692
01:04:01,040 --> 01:04:02,020
That's probably where we're headed.

693
01:04:04,830 --> 01:04:11,510
Mayor, I didn't see anything in the law that pertained to the SUPs.

694
01:04:12,590 --> 01:04:16,210
We've been talking about the distance, I think we all understand that.

695
01:04:16,210 --> 01:04:20,590
but as far as requiring an SUP or not requiring an SUP,

696
01:04:20,650 --> 01:04:23,770
I didn't see anything in there that regulated that one

697
01:04:23,770 --> 01:04:27,330
where the other, on SUP's.

698
01:04:27,690 --> 01:04:29,850
What are the special conditions for the SUP

699
01:04:29,850 --> 01:04:32,830
that's been proposed if you could review that again, Cody?

700
01:04:33,270 --> 01:04:34,630
That would answer that question, I think.

701
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:52,480
The foot, the setback, in that right?

702
01:04:57,540 --> 01:04:58,460
This portion of it, sir?

703
01:04:58,460 --> 01:04:59,920
This is the supplement.

704
01:05:00,000 --> 01:05:31,590
Government standards, one or two or 53. Okay, so one is the SUV requirement and that would require a site plan. It would require a, let me get to that. There we go. The requirements associated with the SUV could be site plans, landscape plans, parking, building, size and height, construction materials, visual screening, and allow for planning and

705
01:05:31,590 --> 01:05:48,130
zoning commission and council to request additional information such as engineering, analysis, or expert evaluation or testimony, and this would allow them to make informed decisions when recommending approving or denying land uses requiring an SHP.

706
01:05:51,610 --> 01:05:59,030
I understand that part of just remember seeing anything specifically and they were talking about state law superseding what we're doing.

707
01:05:59,030 --> 01:05:59,430
So,

708
01:06:01,860 --> 01:06:09,060
no, no, that, not my point, my point is that the, where we had, we wanted to limit

709
01:06:09,060 --> 01:06:11,920
it to a thousand feet or two, five hundred feet.

710
01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,360
Right, but there was two, two portions of this.

711
01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:17,840
There was the distance, and then there was whether or not we required an SEP.

712
01:06:22,680 --> 01:06:23,160
Okay.

713
01:06:26,110 --> 01:06:30,890
Certainly, you don't need an SEP to adhere to state law.

714
01:06:31,870 --> 01:06:32,350
Right.

715
01:06:32,350 --> 01:06:40,210
So, okay, and by the way, the state law does not say it says 900 feet if six engines, six

716
01:06:40,210 --> 01:06:49,530
generators are there, and saying that, it says that it doesn't distinguish between

717
01:06:49,530 --> 01:06:56,870
school, a hospital or anything like that, it's property line, just the property line.

718
01:06:59,390 --> 01:07:05,970
So my point is I just keep making the point, look, why are we, why are we arguing about

719
01:07:06,510 --> 01:07:07,350
the state law?

720
01:07:07,830 --> 01:07:12,730
We're not going to change the state law unless we all go to Austin and I'm happy to go

721
01:07:12,730 --> 01:07:13,130
do that.

722
01:07:14,390 --> 01:07:15,210
Let's go do it.

723
01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:23,420
This is a law of 2025 like to live in that occurred.

724
01:07:24,160 --> 01:07:28,340
You're going to need to come in and sign up and speak if you want to do this this way.

725
01:07:28,340 --> 01:07:29,400
I

726
01:07:31,520 --> 01:07:37,660
don't you know I've made my point yes and this is make I don't think we're

727
01:07:37,660 --> 01:07:45,320
arguing I think we're educating all of us and what are the consequences if

728
01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:52,840
we decide that we're more important than the state law we can't make those

729
01:07:52,840 --> 01:08:00,440
decisions as a city we can't opt to say you know what 377 I know that

730
01:08:00,440 --> 01:08:08,580
text, but we think with the speed limit should be 100 miles an hour. We can't do that. Think

731
01:08:08,580 --> 01:08:16,740
about it, but just we can't. You may not nod your head and say we should, but we can't.

732
01:08:24,450 --> 01:08:26,290
Sure, and I'll get to you, Scott.

733
01:08:30,970 --> 01:08:36,150
Mayor, I've sat here and listened to the comments and the

734
01:08:36,150 --> 01:08:39,530
presentation and I think there is a tremendous amount

735
01:08:39,530 --> 01:08:40,450
of convolution here.

736
01:08:43,440 --> 01:08:43,960
Convolution.

737
01:08:44,640 --> 01:08:47,460
We are talking about two separate issues.

738
01:08:48,800 --> 01:08:52,200
The guidelines set out by TCEQ are governing

739
01:08:53,020 --> 01:08:54,620
a power generation facility.

740
01:08:55,740 --> 01:08:57,200
And what if it doesn't have six turbines?

741
01:08:57,620 --> 01:08:58,780
Then the 900 doesn't apply.

742
01:08:59,560 --> 01:09:01,260
So it's not even applicable.

743
01:09:02,700 --> 01:09:04,940
So the other side of that coin is the data

744
01:09:04,940 --> 01:09:07,980
the center facility itself is not governed by that.

745
01:09:08,680 --> 01:09:12,060
It would be governed by the standards that we are trying to put in place.

746
01:09:12,440 --> 01:09:19,500
So if one of these comes here, we have something in place to have whatever the best protections

747
01:09:19,500 --> 01:09:23,960
are in place when the legislature tells us, we don't care what you think it's coming.

748
01:09:25,020 --> 01:09:27,040
At least you can have some sort of governments.

749
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:31,700
I mean, my goodness, if anybody's paid any attention, we can't even tell people how to

750
01:09:31,700 --> 01:09:38,040
their homes anymore. They can go build a metal building for blocks from here on an empty vacant lot

751
01:09:38,040 --> 01:09:42,800
if they want. There's a continued use of patient of local authority that no one is acknowledging here.

752
01:09:43,920 --> 01:09:50,120
We are trying to do the best that we can and work with everyone to put the best protections in place

753
01:09:50,120 --> 01:09:56,940
and we're just getting slapped for it. We cannot dictate to the legislature what we are going to do.

754
01:09:56,940 --> 01:09:59,960
they dictate to us, they dictate to the county just like

755
01:10:00,000 --> 01:10:29,440
The federal government minus some 10th amendment protections will dictate to the states what they will do. We can, as the state of Texas say, we'll just decide our own voting parameters when we elect the president. No, those are federal laws. It all flows downhill. We're trying to put things in place to protect both on the data center side and on the power generation side, the best that we can. So yes, we have these certain parameters in place. We have these 900 feet and these things out here.

756
01:10:29,440 --> 01:10:32,300
There are so many other ways that we can look at this.

757
01:10:32,460 --> 01:10:34,380
We can look at percentages.

758
01:10:34,880 --> 01:10:35,940
I was looking at some stuff.

759
01:10:36,100 --> 01:10:38,180
University Park has a 10%.

760
01:10:38,180 --> 01:10:40,400
So you measure out what the property is

761
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:42,340
and the setbacks are 10% of what it is.

762
01:10:42,560 --> 01:10:44,160
So if you have a 60 foot wide lot,

763
01:10:44,260 --> 01:10:45,940
your setbacks are six foot on each side

764
01:10:45,940 --> 01:10:47,960
and you can figure out formulas for all of this.

765
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:52,660
The other thing is we have to stop looking at this

766
01:10:53,040 --> 01:10:54,780
and saying we're trying to put together

767
01:10:54,780 --> 01:10:56,840
an ordinance for a single project.

768
01:10:56,840 --> 01:11:03,700
In fact, this has to be for any and all data center applications that may come through the city,

769
01:11:04,100 --> 01:11:08,280
power generation facility, permits that may come through the city.

770
01:11:08,660 --> 01:11:12,180
We have a commerce park that it's impossible.

771
01:11:12,680 --> 01:11:17,220
Every time someone comes in and says, I'm going to put a data center here, a small scale one.

772
01:11:17,560 --> 01:11:18,600
You can't stop me.

773
01:11:19,100 --> 01:11:24,300
Oh, well, you've used up a thousand foot setback, the entirety of this property.

774
01:11:24,300 --> 01:11:35,320
So we're going to have a taking analysis done and you've taken it and the tax payers are going to pay for that land because we have an absurd setback requirement.

775
01:11:35,760 --> 01:11:44,340
This is not something that can be resolved today. This ordinance will not be completed today. This is going to take a significant more in-depth search.

776
01:11:45,400 --> 01:11:49,780
Working with folks like Scott, I worked with him for years on things like this.

777
01:11:50,140 --> 01:11:59,420
Going through, continuing to compile information and find out one, what works best for the city as a whole in almost every situation, not limited to one.

778
01:12:00,080 --> 01:12:08,520
What works best for the power generation, excuse me, I've been talking all day, my thoughts a little drive, not works just for the power generation facilities.

779
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:15,860
not works best just for the data center facilities and who knows the next

780
01:12:15,860 --> 01:12:18,880
session they may come back and tell us you guys did all this work for

781
01:12:18,880 --> 01:12:22,560
nothing this is what you're going to do I don't know but I know that the

782
01:12:22,560 --> 01:12:26,280
president is on board with it and I know the governor's on board with it and I

783
01:12:26,280 --> 01:12:29,840
know they keep putting out a lot of information talking about well if it's

784
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:33,160
this and if that then we're going to regulate this and I haven't seen any of

785
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:37,880
these facilities that are tying in to Erkott or any of these things that that

786
01:12:37,880 --> 01:12:41,860
They're actually getting audited correctly, so I don't know what's going to happen with this.

787
01:12:42,060 --> 01:12:44,320
But the point here is we have to stop arguing.

788
01:12:44,760 --> 01:12:49,900
We have to stop yelling and screaming each other and calling each other names and putting all of this stuff out on social media that's false.

789
01:12:50,620 --> 01:12:54,580
Okay, we want to put the best protections in place.

790
01:12:55,400 --> 01:13:03,960
We have to follow the guidance from the legislature, and we have to also take into account, we cannot look at this as one project.

791
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:11,760
In fact, this is going to affect every parcel in the city that could potentially ever house any of these type of operations.

792
01:13:12,700 --> 01:13:17,400
My suggestion to you is that we continue to work on this, continue to work with the public,

793
01:13:18,820 --> 01:13:23,560
get more input, figure out what works best in an overall perspective, and implement that.

794
01:13:24,800 --> 01:13:25,540
My take,

795
01:13:29,070 --> 01:13:30,390
Mr. Subject, you will speak.

796
01:13:30,390 --> 01:13:31,370
Thank

797
01:13:40,720 --> 01:13:46,300
you mayor. Councilor Mr. Manager and especially mayor for you allowing me to speak

798
01:13:46,300 --> 01:13:54,060
and add to the conversation, the flavor of the conversation. If I can ask Cody to turn

799
01:13:54,060 --> 01:14:01,940
back to the citizen portion of it that was highlighted in yellow, while I was back there listening

800
01:14:01,940 --> 01:14:08,840
I was thinking maybe a good point for your consideration is where we itemize all those

801
01:14:08,840 --> 01:14:21,540
things or the citizen, you know, power generation power plants, battery storage locations, you can add a little statement at the end unless otherwise preempted by state law.

802
01:14:22,780 --> 01:14:38,220
So that gets you where you need to be with state law and if there's any subsequent state law that comes in down the pipe, your codes are fluid enough to say hey we're sensitive to the concerns of the residential neighbors.

803
01:14:38,220 --> 01:14:46,620
We want, we, we, we as a city want to articulate to you that we preserve the sanctity of single-family residential

804
01:14:46,620 --> 01:14:53,220
habitation. That's a very, very protected land use classification for us. We understand that the

805
01:14:53,220 --> 01:14:58,900
the adjacency issues that some industrial uses offer.

806
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:23,740
To those adjacency problems. And so, you can add that in there being sensitive to the fluidity of whatever state legislation comes down the line. If you have state preemption, your code addresses that. You got kind of an outdoor attract door in your code. Just food for thought. Pardon me? Okay.

807
01:15:26,520 --> 01:15:32,260
Okay. So you've got that state preemption, but again, you can codify just

808
01:15:32,260 --> 01:15:34,320
to take, give a tip of the hat to it.

809
01:15:34,640 --> 01:15:35,920
Could you give me those words again?

810
01:15:36,480 --> 01:15:38,380
Unless otherwise preempted by state law.

811
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:42,060
So, and then-

812
01:15:42,060 --> 01:15:44,720
Let's exactly what we did on the masonry requirements.

813
01:15:45,400 --> 01:15:46,440
Oh, yeah, absolutely.

814
01:15:46,800 --> 01:15:47,400
Remember those days?

815
01:15:47,700 --> 01:15:48,540
Yes, absolutely.

816
01:15:49,100 --> 01:15:51,360
We had great masonry standards in the state,

817
01:15:51,640 --> 01:15:54,920
pulled the rug out from under us on commercial masonry standards,

818
01:15:55,160 --> 01:15:55,660
and-

819
01:15:55,660 --> 01:15:56,300
More residential.

820
01:15:57,020 --> 01:15:57,940
Absolutely, yeah.

821
01:15:58,420 --> 01:16:01,120
And the other thing that I wanted to mention very quickly,

822
01:16:01,120 --> 01:16:03,540
and I appreciate everybody's indulgence on this

823
01:16:04,120 --> 01:16:10,020
is with smaller tracks and use the industrial park as an example

824
01:16:10,020 --> 01:16:12,280
where things start to close in a little bit.

825
01:16:13,020 --> 01:16:14,980
You mentioned that was a plan development.

826
01:16:15,200 --> 01:16:16,900
Well, plan developments have a latitude

827
01:16:16,900 --> 01:16:22,180
to offer PD variances as a part of the PD structure

828
01:16:22,180 --> 01:16:23,580
to set back requirements.

829
01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,320
So, again, you're signaling to these people,

830
01:16:27,500 --> 01:16:29,080
hey, these are our standards up front

831
01:16:29,080 --> 01:16:45,940
to protect those adjacency uses for what we consider protected classifications but if you want to do a PD and you want to do a PD variance to a setback requirement then the burden falls on you to prove it up through detailed analysis and public hearings of why that setback needs to be adjusted.

832
01:16:46,480 --> 01:16:48,840
Just food for thought. Thank you for your time.

833
01:16:48,840 --> 01:16:50,620
Thank you so

834
01:16:57,470 --> 01:17:02,370
what are the recommendations again

835
01:17:10,340 --> 01:17:16,980
approve of the zoning ordinance amendment approve of the zoning ordinance amendment with changes or deny the zoning ordinance amendment.

836
01:17:19,420 --> 01:17:19,760
So

837
01:17:34,290 --> 01:17:45,470
approving the ordinance or approve the ordinance amendment with changes and adding unless otherwise pre-empted by state law.

838
01:17:46,030 --> 01:17:48,730
It's actually being redundant because we're not going to.

839
01:17:49,670 --> 01:17:56,570
It's already preempted, but if that makes people happy, that could be a suggested change,

840
01:17:56,730 --> 01:17:56,990
right?

841
01:18:01,660 --> 01:18:02,320
Yes, ma'am.

842
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:02,820
Yes, please.

843
01:18:03,700 --> 01:18:06,140
I would make, is it time?

844
01:18:06,880 --> 01:18:07,360
My logic?

845
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:08,520
You're right.

846
01:18:08,740 --> 01:18:08,880
Yeah.

847
01:18:08,960 --> 01:18:14,340
I'd like to make a motion to approve this zoning ordinance, which changes with the verbiage

848
01:18:14,340 --> 01:18:18,420
unless otherwise preempted by state law which

849
01:18:21,080 --> 01:18:24,980
ordinance the one that was

850
01:18:24,980 --> 01:18:32,280
re-recommended by the P and Z or the one by staff the one by P and Z is the

851
01:18:32,280 --> 01:18:36,880
thousand foot basically the difference and the other one was 500 feet so we

852
01:18:36,880 --> 01:18:44,480
need to clarify which one okay I would go with P and C because and I go with the

853
01:18:44,480 --> 01:19:03,940
P and C. I'm sorry. Yes. No, no, excuse me. The staff recommendation, unless otherwise, no, no, no, it's a P and C with a thousand. That's what I'm trying to forgive me all. I'm trying to get my mind wrapped around this having poured all day myself.

854
01:19:03,940 --> 01:19:08,760
The thousand-foot, unless otherwise preempted by state law.

855
01:19:11,080 --> 01:19:12,020
I hear a motion.

856
01:19:12,500 --> 01:19:13,220
Do I hear a second?

857
01:19:15,370 --> 01:19:16,450
I'll second it.

858
01:19:17,990 --> 01:19:18,430
Second.

859
01:19:19,210 --> 01:19:20,490
Mr. Over to your seconds.

860
01:19:21,790 --> 01:19:22,190
Good.

861
01:19:22,850 --> 01:19:23,870
Is there other discussion?

862
01:19:25,170 --> 01:19:26,550
Yeah, I said this last time.

863
01:19:28,170 --> 01:19:36,030
I saw a large industrial project and there was a facility, not a nursing home,

864
01:19:36,030 --> 01:19:42,070
but I think it was a belt milling challenge and it was about 600 feet away and it didn't

865
01:19:42,070 --> 01:19:53,390
look like it was too close so I like the thousand feet from residences but I said this last

866
01:19:53,390 --> 01:19:59,330
time it doesn't necessarily need to be a thousand feet from a railroad track or a highway or

867
01:19:59,330 --> 01:19:59,970
or another industrial-

868
01:20:02,660 --> 01:20:29,980
And that would reduce the taking, or whatever you want to call that, a lot. I mean, at our industrial park, there's nothing around it. And even with this 2000 acre property, there's highways on a lot of it. There are houses on part of it, but not all of it. And I just, I think that, say a thousand feet, just the whole thing. It's going to cause problems down there.

869
01:20:29,980 --> 01:20:35,400
road because the industrial park the drawing that was that was a good example and

870
01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:40,000
again a wash said oh somebody says because you did you that was out there

871
01:20:40,000 --> 01:20:44,260
that that means our next data centers going in our industrial park I'm like

872
01:20:44,260 --> 01:20:50,840
where do people get this stuff but anyway but that was the show that it wipes out

873
01:20:50,840 --> 01:20:54,660
that piece of property there were two little triangles of red left that we're

874
01:20:54,660 --> 01:20:58,260
you know we could do something so you can't do the thousand feet there it wouldn't

875
01:20:58,260 --> 01:21:00,680
work. You couldn't build anything there. Anything industrial.

876
01:21:02,540 --> 01:21:08,900
So do you want to amend the motion or even?

877
01:21:10,100 --> 01:21:13,520
Well, and also all this information about the state laws has come up tonight.

878
01:21:15,360 --> 01:21:19,680
That needs to be taken into account. So maybe we need to table it.

879
01:21:19,980 --> 01:21:24,980
I think the SUP is an important piece. We have these for all kinds of stuff.

880
01:21:24,980 --> 01:21:35,080
why wouldn't we have one? So I like the SUP idea. But the blanket 1,000 feet that didn't set well with me at all.

881
01:21:38,960 --> 01:21:52,020
If I recall that 1,000 foot buffer, if you had it before you could read it, I believe it included, it had to be from parks and everything.

882
01:21:52,020 --> 01:21:58,040
So, the Commerce Center, located where it is across the railroad track, is the Frisbee

883
01:21:58,040 --> 01:22:03,500
Golf Park, and so, you know, you're dealing with that area as well.

884
01:22:03,900 --> 01:22:09,680
You said that you were just worried about the houses or something like that, but our

885
01:22:09,680 --> 01:22:18,380
ordinance that's presented actually covers every use close to it, and that's what your

886
01:22:18,380 --> 01:22:27,320
Our heartburn was about, as we talked about the day, the 1,000 foot was too aggressive for next door to another industrial part,

887
01:22:27,580 --> 01:22:37,060
but our commercial building, or it also prohibit, from way under red the ordinance, was it prohibits any building basically.

888
01:22:37,260 --> 01:22:45,320
You couldn't have a well house in that buffer zone providing well water to your irrigation system there.

889
01:22:45,320 --> 01:22:53,740
There's just so much there to consider in that thousand-foot buffer that's being used or not used that I think needs further refinement.

890
01:22:54,100 --> 01:22:58,020
You can pass anything you want tonight and we can always bring it back and do something else with it later.

891
01:22:58,220 --> 01:23:02,120
It's just another public posting and another public hearing because it's a zoning issue.

892
01:23:03,000 --> 01:23:14,580
And a further thought is does it need to be a thousand feet from any use of the property or a thousand feet from sound producing.

893
01:23:14,580 --> 01:23:16,460
producing parts of the property.

894
01:23:17,020 --> 01:23:18,280
Like what if you had office buildings,

895
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:21,780
maybe the 500 feet would be plenty for office buildings,

896
01:23:22,040 --> 01:23:24,740
or even less than that, because it's an office building.

897
01:23:24,980 --> 01:23:27,880
And a administrative building, like they're doing at Propel,

898
01:23:27,960 --> 01:23:30,960
for example, are vultigrid now.

899
01:23:31,180 --> 01:23:35,040
They have plans in their future to build an office facility

900
01:23:35,040 --> 01:23:38,360
close to the highway, you know.

901
01:23:38,780 --> 01:23:40,880
Well, my problem was with the motion is made,

902
01:23:41,480 --> 01:23:43,280
like I think the SUP is a great idea.

903
01:23:43,280 --> 01:23:48,900
I think the blank of thousand feet, without further refinement, it doesn't make sense.

904
01:23:49,720 --> 01:23:56,780
There's just too many, the person who makes the motion, the person who makes the motion, can always withdraw.

905
01:23:56,920 --> 01:24:02,520
I'm not saying what to do with it, I'm just saying go ahead.

906
01:24:02,820 --> 01:24:05,400
No, thank you, you brought up some good points.

907
01:24:06,220 --> 01:24:09,040
I'm reading this in a straight line from all buildings.

908
01:24:09,040 --> 01:24:26,500
So, you're leading to the fact that if we were to say vote and approve on the motion and there was a well house, that something is small as a well house, we would have to be a thousand feet even further.

909
01:24:26,700 --> 01:24:30,060
You couldn't have the well house in that thousand foot.

910
01:24:31,260 --> 01:24:44,720
You couldn't have a storage facility, housing, material for the data center or the power plant within a thousand foot of that property line.

911
01:24:45,540 --> 01:24:52,240
No storage, anything related to that project is the way I read it, so I can be wrong.

912
01:24:52,820 --> 01:24:54,860
It's been there too, it's been out down.

913
01:24:54,860 --> 01:24:57,660
It says that we get any birds.

914
01:24:58,300 --> 01:24:58,700
Any bird?

915
01:24:59,200 --> 01:24:59,980
Yeah, so that's...

916
01:25:00,000 --> 01:25:29,660
That's a pretty hard buffer. And it certainly would add to their taking claim if you prohibited every single type structure. In other words, you'd town set apart kind of as a permanent easement. They can't do anything with except Moa and landscape. So. Mr. Mayor. Mr. Over there. So. Well, I'm here and we're trying to comply with what the state said. What does the state say? Or are they just going to say?

917
01:25:29,660 --> 01:25:35,500
You can't, you've got to be either 900 with a, we say a thousand or better, but is the

918
01:25:35,500 --> 01:25:40,700
state's requirement the same thing as what you're saying that we shouldn't do?

919
01:25:44,840 --> 01:25:48,060
Yeah, they're only dealing with the power generation in the 900 feet.

920
01:25:48,780 --> 01:25:51,220
Okay, so, all right, remaining buildings.

921
01:25:51,540 --> 01:25:52,440
Turn your speaker on it.

922
01:25:55,200 --> 01:25:57,320
Yeah, that's just for the power generation facility.

923
01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:01,520
The remaining buildings, we need to determine what the setbacks going to be for those.

924
01:26:02,020 --> 01:26:07,960
And I think the example that Councilperson Wadley is giving is if you have an industrial use

925
01:26:07,960 --> 01:26:12,160
and then there's going to be another industrial use and then at some point there may be a data

926
01:26:12,160 --> 01:26:16,420
center or a power generation facility goes in okay for the power generation facility.

927
01:26:16,760 --> 01:26:20,780
We looked at ECQ, we look at the number of turbines and they're going to tell us what that's

928
01:26:20,780 --> 01:26:21,280
going to be.

929
01:26:21,740 --> 01:26:27,960
But if it were maybe a data center that was going to connect to a grid, maybe that's a different

930
01:26:27,960 --> 01:26:34,160
story and if it's in between two industrial uses already do you need a thousand

931
01:26:34,160 --> 01:26:38,040
foot setback for those I think is the point that he's trying to get to just

932
01:26:45,910 --> 01:26:55,990
need no work oh yeah I think whatever if you adopt something tonight it's gonna

933
01:26:55,990 --> 01:27:01,730
require another round of notification in the newspaper and that kind of thing

934
01:27:01,730 --> 01:27:04,810
and public hearings and start all over again

935
01:27:07,370 --> 01:27:10,010
if you don't table it and give us

936
01:27:10,010 --> 01:27:12,370
some other six weeks or something to work on some more.

937
01:27:15,140 --> 01:27:16,340
We're happy to do whatever you want.

938
01:27:16,460 --> 01:27:19,340
That's why I open the meeting with.

939
01:27:19,560 --> 01:27:21,680
Please tell us what you want so we can make sure it happens.

940
01:27:28,790 --> 01:27:31,670
So I guess what you're saying is that the motion can be amended.

941
01:27:32,410 --> 01:27:35,150
The motion can be amended or the motion can be withdrawn.

942
01:27:36,290 --> 01:27:37,490
Or it can be voted on.

943
01:27:37,870 --> 01:27:38,790
Or it can be voted on.

944
01:27:38,910 --> 01:27:39,030
Yeah.

945
01:27:43,190 --> 01:27:43,970
Do I hear it?

946
01:27:44,230 --> 01:27:44,470
Good.

947
01:27:44,630 --> 01:27:45,410
And one more thing.

948
01:27:47,470 --> 01:27:50,670
Because of this introduction of the state law tonight and 900

949
01:27:51,370 --> 01:28:02,970
That means that the ordinance that we pass the staff had recommended with the 500 feet violates state law, the 1,000 feet would violate state law.

950
01:28:03,430 --> 01:28:06,770
Other than that, it's almost there so that's really a good deal.

951
01:28:08,250 --> 01:28:10,950
You know, I don't see how we can vote for any of these right now.

952
01:28:13,030 --> 01:28:14,570
They don't meet state law.

953
01:28:14,570 --> 01:28:22,590
Well, unless, I mean, we can do, we can do, if we did, okay, if we denied the zoning

954
01:28:22,590 --> 01:28:25,150
ordinance amendment, then we have what we had.

955
01:28:26,470 --> 01:28:29,750
And my understanding is that that, isn't in accordance with state laws, is that correct?

956
01:28:30,210 --> 01:28:30,450
Do you know what I mean?

957
01:28:31,610 --> 01:28:33,170
But the one that we, but the one that we've adopted now.

958
01:28:33,290 --> 01:28:33,690
Yep, no.

959
01:28:34,030 --> 01:28:43,650
So, again, back to the convolution, the particular, the particular rule from TCQ that the

960
01:28:43,650 --> 01:28:46,570
mayors looting to as 900 feet for a particular amount of

961
01:28:46,570 --> 01:28:46,970
turbines.

962
01:28:47,150 --> 01:28:49,450
So it's going to vary depending upon the project.

963
01:28:49,650 --> 01:28:49,930
Got it.

964
01:28:50,070 --> 01:28:52,630
And so in this case, we're talking about 900 feet.

965
01:28:53,130 --> 01:28:55,510
If this is what they have, six turbines, right?

966
01:28:56,570 --> 01:28:58,390
Well, that could be in the middle of the property.

967
01:28:58,990 --> 01:29:02,070
The buildings could still be a different set back around it.

968
01:29:02,390 --> 01:29:04,230
And that's what I was saying a minute ago, so the 900 feet

969
01:29:04,230 --> 01:29:07,610
is from the turbines, not from anything on the property.

970
01:29:08,210 --> 01:29:08,410
Correct?

971
01:29:09,890 --> 01:29:12,270
Well, the way that this is drafted, it's

972
01:29:12,270 --> 01:29:16,310
building would be. No, no, no. I'm not saying the way what we're doing. What the state is saying,

973
01:29:16,370 --> 01:29:21,430
then I don't see. Yeah, just for the turbines, not for any building. Okay.

974
01:29:24,280 --> 01:29:25,560
So Cody, what do we have

975
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:33,880
for setback for an industrial prop property already on our code currently in effect?

976
01:29:44,640 --> 01:29:45,260
I think it's a

977
01:29:45,260 --> 01:29:51,740
hundred foot buffer in it with landscaping buffer on that. For just plain industrial. For like we

978
01:29:51,740 --> 01:29:56,840
adopted. Okay so yes this is a hundred foot landscape buffer from the

979
01:29:56,840 --> 01:29:59,980
property line a hundred foot in. That's what the the block

980
01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:29,980
The black line was showing on that map. Right. Okay. Thank you. Yes. So, so that's what we currently have adopted. As of April, we put that standard in requiring that landscape buffering with opaque landscape. With standards about the tree dies. I got to replace it within six months and all that kind of stuff. So there was a lot of protections built into that ordinance that we felt that we were going as far as we could at the time.

981
01:30:29,980 --> 01:30:35,780
And we also admitted that this ordinance needs more work, but we were getting a toe-hold,

982
01:30:35,920 --> 01:30:40,620
so to speak, on regulations as this topic was such a pressing issue.

983
01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:47,140
So here we are wanting to add to that ordinance by this amendment.

984
01:30:47,480 --> 01:30:51,740
I just want to make sure we understand we're adding to that ordinance that's already in place.

985
01:30:53,240 --> 01:31:00,560
And that ordinance, by the way, is what everybody voted on that caused the recall petition.

986
01:31:02,300 --> 01:31:10,860
And so here we are developing guidelines to make things rougher on a developer, and yet the council is

987
01:31:11,820 --> 01:31:16,920
experiencing recall petitions over that increased standard.

988
01:31:17,220 --> 01:31:19,560
So it's crazy to me how we got to where we are today.

989
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:26,640
And here we are talking about making it even better, and we have to observe the state

990
01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:27,400
laws as well.

991
01:31:27,740 --> 01:31:27,740
So,

992
01:31:30,880 --> 01:31:31,760
how are we going to do that?

993
01:31:32,780 --> 01:31:32,980
Okay.

994
01:31:34,200 --> 01:31:39,320
Well, I think my job is to say that we have a motion and a second.

995
01:31:40,180 --> 01:31:41,460
Any more discussion?

996
01:31:42,720 --> 01:31:50,360
And the motion is that we would approve the zoning ordinance amendment.

997
01:31:51,220 --> 01:32:02,460
and this would be the zoning, the PNZs, zoning ordinance amendment, the one with a thousand

998
01:32:02,460 --> 01:32:12,640
foot, and we would amend it with, at the end, unless otherwise pre-empted by state law.

999
01:32:14,770 --> 01:32:15,150
Very clear?

1000
01:32:15,150 --> 01:32:23,230
But the motion was the second one improving the zoning ordinance that amendment with changes what changes are those we add

1001
01:32:35,380 --> 01:32:39,740
So this would be voting for the thousand feet for any industrial

1002
01:32:40,800 --> 01:32:46,940
Property in the city any industrial property where a power

1003
01:32:47,840 --> 01:32:49,040
would be located,

1004
01:32:56,850 --> 01:33:01,630
or cooling towers, or battery storage locations, anything to do with

1005
01:33:01,630 --> 01:33:04,790
those projects, storage of computer equipment,

1006
01:33:07,620 --> 01:33:10,140
buildings, housing, operation, or storage

1007
01:33:10,580 --> 01:33:16,420
storage computer equipment. You know, we've got a data center out over here on Bluff Street.

1008
01:33:17,980 --> 01:33:23,840
I don't know if anybody knows that. There's covers all city block. They couldn't put that

1009
01:33:23,840 --> 01:33:24,080
there.

1010
01:33:30,860 --> 01:33:34,700
I have a motion. Have a second. All in favor say aye.

1011
01:33:38,910 --> 01:33:41,670
All I hear one aye. All opposed say nay.

1012
01:33:42,330 --> 01:33:43,430
Nay. Nay.

1013
01:33:45,760 --> 01:33:56,420
Okay. So that will fail five and one. And we'll move on. I'm sure we'll hear more

1014
01:33:56,420 --> 01:33:59,460
about this later, right?

1015
01:34:02,760 --> 01:34:11,060
Okay. My job's to keep the meeting moving. 7.2. Consider

1016
01:34:11,060 --> 01:34:17,220
submitting an official ballot for the election of places 1-4 at the Board of

1017
01:34:17,220 --> 01:34:22,500
Trustees for the Texas Municipal League Intergovernmental Research School.

1018
01:34:23,380 --> 01:34:27,700
Mr. Colton, if you want to move forward. Thank you. I would like to clarify a typo in the

1019
01:34:27,700 --> 01:34:35,700
The agenda item, it's places 11 through 14 of the TMLRP board, which is our insurance risk pool, basically.

1020
01:34:38,320 --> 01:34:49,550
I remember that organization that board on the trustee, and I would recommend that staff that you

1021
01:34:49,550 --> 01:34:56,190
elect or nominate the incumbents that are serving on that board.

1022
01:34:56,830 --> 01:34:59,210
Happy to answer any questions, I know Bruce has one.

1023
01:35:01,160 --> 01:35:08,460
I know you're familiar with these people. I want to get your recommendation. Yes, or it's the incumbents. Each

1024
01:35:09,000 --> 01:35:13,580
place has an incumbent and it's listed there beside their name. I can go through it individually, if you like.

1025
01:35:31,860 --> 01:35:32,300
Brandy

1026
01:35:32,300 --> 01:35:37,240
people signed up on place 12. So I don't know what happened to pair that down

1027
01:35:37,240 --> 01:35:44,020
the floor but I guess they withdrew. It was a highly contested region or place.

1028
01:35:47,140 --> 01:35:51,880
And I know some of these other people that have been put them put themselves

1029
01:35:51,880 --> 01:35:56,300
forward and some of them I don't know but I do know the existing board that we

1030
01:35:56,300 --> 01:36:00,560
have is doing a great job. I read all their bios and there's some really qualified

1031
01:36:00,560 --> 01:36:00,980
by people.

1032
01:36:01,500 --> 01:36:02,060
Absolutely.

1033
01:36:07,570 --> 01:36:08,330
Any discussion?

1034
01:36:08,770 --> 01:36:09,130
Questions?

1035
01:36:09,630 --> 01:36:10,010
Mr. Oliver?

1036
01:36:12,750 --> 01:36:13,390
Yes, sir.

1037
01:36:14,490 --> 01:36:15,090
Okay.

1038
01:36:19,450 --> 01:36:25,170
All in favor of submitting an official ballot for the election in place is 11-14 to the board

1039
01:36:25,170 --> 01:36:30,890
of trustees for the Texas Municipal League and Intergovernment Risk pool, naming all incumbents.

1040
01:36:32,550 --> 01:36:33,290
Please say aye.

1041
01:36:33,890 --> 01:36:34,310
Go ahead.

1042
01:36:34,690 --> 01:36:35,570
We need a motion.

1043
01:36:36,090 --> 01:36:36,690
That's the motion.

1044
01:36:37,070 --> 01:36:37,810
I make that motion.

1045
01:36:38,510 --> 01:36:38,770
Motion.

1046
01:36:39,310 --> 01:36:39,890
Second.

1047
01:36:56,240 --> 01:37:03,060
The next is, consider authorizing the city manager to negotiate, finalize, and execute an internal

1048
01:37:03,060 --> 01:37:07,480
agreement between the city and Hood County for police disparate services.

1049
01:37:09,380 --> 01:37:10,120
Thank you, Mayor.

1050
01:37:10,340 --> 01:37:12,660
I was out of town when this item came up.

1051
01:37:12,660 --> 01:37:20,960
But there was a agenda item on the county commissioners agenda that I was notified basically

1052
01:37:20,960 --> 01:37:27,180
we're currently paying about $148,000 a year for dispatch service for emergency dispatch.

1053
01:37:28,580 --> 01:37:30,160
That's a ten-year-old contract.

1054
01:37:32,240 --> 01:37:38,980
I'm going to let Deputy City Manager Michael Ross walk you through the whole saga of this

1055
01:37:38,980 --> 01:37:39,340
event.

1056
01:37:39,800 --> 01:37:41,560
And I may add some color to it when he's through.

1057
01:37:41,560 --> 01:37:49,660
thank you. Thank you, Chris. Mayor City Council. As Chris will give you a little background

1058
01:37:49,660 --> 01:37:54,880
and the agenda item itself. We just kind of left that open for your discretion this evening

1059
01:37:55,640 --> 01:38:00,320
to authorize the city manager to take whatever action you've deemed appropriate.

1060
01:38:01,240 --> 01:38:06,700
In March of 2016, the City of Granbarian Hood County approved an interlocal agreement

1061
01:38:06,700 --> 01:38:10,180
that outlining the annual payments from the city to the county.

1062
01:38:10,880 --> 01:38:27,140
Per the agreement the city paid $48,908 in 2016, $97,816 in 2017, and $146,723 from 2018 to the present.

1063
01:38:28,280 --> 01:38:33,980
As part of the agreement, a corporation called the Hood County Dispatch Advisory Board was

1064
01:38:33,980 --> 01:38:39,180
This required to be formed and that board was required to oversee the operation of the

1065
01:38:39,180 --> 01:38:43,940
dispatch services and make appropriate recommendations regarding dispatch-related

1066
01:38:43,940 --> 01:38:45,540
policies and procedures.

1067
01:38:46,820 --> 01:38:52,640
This group should have been part of this evaluation and proposed changes to the interlocal agreement.

1068
01:38:53,460 --> 01:38:59,500
The city has no record of this board ever being formed or having a meeting over the last

1069
01:38:59,500 --> 01:39:00,040
10 years.

1070
01:39:00,040 --> 01:39:09,020
years. The term of the 2016 dispatch agreement was to run until September 30th of 2026 with

1071
01:39:09,020 --> 01:39:16,040
three year terms automatically renewed after that, if not terminated by that date. A one-year

1072
01:39:16,040 --> 01:39:23,700
notice of cancellation was required by either party to terminate. On September 26th of 2025,

1073
01:39:23,700 --> 01:39:29,800
the county provided a one-year notice of termination of the existing agreement to the city. Therefore,

1074
01:39:29,800 --> 01:39:32,560
for this agreement was not automatically renewed

1075
01:39:32,560 --> 01:39:36,680
and will expire on September 30th of 2026.

1076
01:39:38,140 --> 01:39:40,760
During the past year, the county has not communicated

1077
01:39:40,760 --> 01:39:43,980
with the city regarding a new interlocal agreement

1078
01:39:43,980 --> 01:39:45,020
for Dispatch Services.

1079
01:39:45,960 --> 01:39:47,780
A couple of weeks ago, the city noticed

1080
01:39:47,780 --> 01:39:50,720
an upcoming County Commissioner's core agenda item

1081
01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:53,440
scheduled for September 8th of 2026

1082
01:39:54,120 --> 01:39:57,320
that had a new proposed agreement for Dispatch Services

1083
01:39:57,320 --> 01:39:59,200
between the city and the county.

1084
01:40:00,340 --> 01:40:29,000
City staff attended the commissioner's court meeting and respectfully requested that the item be pulled from the agenda and the commissioner for precinct one made that request and the item was pulled. The New County agreement proposes an increase in the annual cost of dispatch services to the city from the current amount of $146,723 to $697,575.

1085
01:40:29,800 --> 01:40:39,840
This represents an increase of more than $550,000 annually, or approximately 376%.

1086
01:40:39,840 --> 01:40:45,280
And is a significant and unexpected change from the existing financial arrangement.

1087
01:40:46,100 --> 01:40:50,840
This is especially disturbing giving the fact that City Council just adopted our budget

1088
01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:57,160
and a tax rate, and that rate does not include the two and a half additional cents, it would

1089
01:40:57,160 --> 01:41:02,560
take to fund this increase. It is important to note that the taxpayers of

1090
01:41:02,560 --> 01:41:08,040
Grandbury have paid the county approximately $100 million during the term of

1091
01:41:08,040 --> 01:41:13,740
the existing agreement and the county received about $11.5 million just

1092
01:41:13,740 --> 01:41:18,440
during the last recorded tax year. The city believes this substantial

1093
01:41:18,440 --> 01:41:22,620
contribution more than pays for any county service provided to Grandbury

1094
01:41:22,620 --> 01:41:28,760
citizens including dispatch services. The city believes the county is effectively double

1095
01:41:28,760 --> 01:41:35,880
taxing the Grandbury citizens for dispatch, dispatch services. Accordingly staff recommends

1096
01:41:36,500 --> 01:41:42,300
the following. Request the county to come present their new proposed interlocal agreement to the

1097
01:41:42,300 --> 01:41:49,540
city council and explain and substantiate the proposed annual charge including the methodology,

1098
01:41:49,540 --> 01:41:54,880
policy, costs, assumptions, and justifications supporting the proposed amount.

1099
01:41:56,180 --> 01:42:00,840
Address the significant lack of communication regarding the proposed changes during the

1100
01:42:00,840 --> 01:42:01,440
past year.

1101
01:42:02,420 --> 01:42:06,900
Determine the status of the Hood County Dispatch Advisory Board, including whether the

1102
01:42:06,900 --> 01:42:12,060
board has been formally established, and if so, why is it not met as contemplated by the

1103
01:42:12,060 --> 01:42:12,960
existing agreement?

1104
01:42:12,960 --> 01:42:28,380
and work collaboratively toward an amicable and mutually acceptable agreement that fairly addresses the costs of dispatch services while recognizing the significant county tax contribution made by Grandbury taxpayers.

1105
01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:30,960
I'm happy to answer any questions.

1106
01:42:32,500 --> 01:42:42,640
Michael, do the other cities in Hood County, Leipan, Toler, Cresson, do they pay anything to the county at all?

1107
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:44,440
out to my knowledge.

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01:42:48,860 --> 01:42:53,660
So I was in a conversation with one of the commissioners and my understanding about

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01:42:53,660 --> 01:42:59,540
where that number came from was they took the total cost for the whole project.

1110
01:42:59,820 --> 01:43:04,500
The employees, the equipment I guess everything and they came up, I think I believe it was

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01:43:04,500 --> 01:43:05,000
about $2 million.

1112
01:43:07,260 --> 01:43:08,540
And I'm guessing that that number.

1113
01:43:10,300 --> 01:43:19,540
And then they said the city's emergency calls accounted for approximately 30% of the total.

1114
01:43:20,160 --> 01:43:23,860
So they just said we're going to take that $2 million and make the city pay 30%.

1115
01:43:23,860 --> 01:43:27,340
Not at all taken into account that we do pay property taxes also.

1116
01:43:28,020 --> 01:43:30,080
So I don't know why we pay anything extra.

1117
01:43:30,440 --> 01:43:32,940
I'm surprised that this agreement 10 years ago was made.

1118
01:43:33,720 --> 01:43:41,060
I mean, my understanding is accounting by law is required to provide emergency services

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01:43:41,060 --> 01:43:42,260
for the entire county, right?

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01:43:43,240 --> 01:43:44,960
That is our understanding, correct.

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01:43:45,500 --> 01:43:51,200
And they have the equipment issued by North Texas Central Council government to provide

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01:43:51,200 --> 01:43:53,420
9-1-1 emergency dispatch.

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01:43:53,820 --> 01:43:54,700
They have that equipment.

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01:43:55,360 --> 01:43:59,520
We cannot dispatch for our own city because we cannot get that equipment.

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01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:08,160
Because our population is not sufficient, and then is this available for the public to see that you just handed out?

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01:44:08,600 --> 01:44:08,780
Yeah.

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01:44:08,880 --> 01:44:09,800
On the slide in there.

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01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:11,440
Oh, okay, go wait.

1129
01:44:12,280 --> 01:44:13,500
No, not that one.

1130
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:16,460
Well, that one shows the 100 million.

1131
01:44:16,460 --> 01:44:19,080
I'll put it back on that for about a hundred million dollars.

1132
01:44:19,160 --> 01:44:28,520
Yeah, this does show the last 10 years payments in property tax and sales tax that equaled that 100 million.

1133
01:44:28,520 --> 01:44:34,220
$1 million total dollars by dance

1134
01:44:34,220 --> 01:44:36,780
favor was kind enough to put this together for us.

1135
01:44:39,730 --> 01:44:47,270
Yeah, the sales tax is the tax on goods sold within the city limits as determined by the state.

1136
01:44:47,990 --> 01:44:50,070
Yeah, the half-send sales tax.

1137
01:44:50,330 --> 01:44:54,470
And the state then remits to the Hood County Journal fund.

1138
01:44:54,470 --> 01:44:59,810
The property taxes are properties that we sit on within the city limits.

1139
01:45:00,210 --> 01:45:30,190
That H can't remit to the Hood County General Fund. Yes, sir. And it's uncommon, generally, work that counties collect any sales tax. That typically is a city tax to be from a sales perspective. There's a city tax to be collected. Right. But in 1988, for whatever reason, maybe it was the economy at the time. The city and the county both adopted that half-sent property tax reduction.

1140
01:45:30,190 --> 01:45:31,210
right.

1141
01:45:35,730 --> 01:45:40,970
Go to a quick question. I know that outside of the county is this

1142
01:45:40,970 --> 01:45:48,230
standard? What is the standard? Texas-wide on cities paying in to this

1143
01:45:48,230 --> 01:45:54,470
service if the county's responsible for it or is there a standard? We have not

1144
01:45:54,470 --> 01:46:02,110
had the time to do the deep dive on statewide what everybody does. What I did see

1145
01:46:02,110 --> 01:46:07,730
in the last few days doing a quick look at cities surrounding us is any almost

1146
01:46:07,730 --> 01:46:12,590
any city that reaches the population where they can begin handling their own

1147
01:46:12,590 --> 01:46:23,790
dispatch it appears that they are. Ben Brook, Cleaver, Mansfield, weather for all

1148
01:46:23,790 --> 01:46:27,810
those cities that have reached those population thresholds have begun to handle

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01:46:27,810 --> 01:46:34,310
their own dispatch services. There are some like Johnson County that provides the service

1150
01:46:34,310 --> 01:46:39,810
for the cities around them. They have some kind of a financial arrangement that appears

1151
01:46:39,810 --> 01:46:48,510
to date back similarly to goods. But the city's cleaburn and such appear to have their

1152
01:46:48,510 --> 01:46:52,470
own within Johnson County. I'll

1153
01:47:05,270 --> 01:47:15,330
start over. I've managed small cities my

1154
01:47:15,330 --> 01:47:21,170
entire career and this is the only city that we've ever been responsible for

1155
01:47:21,170 --> 01:47:27,040
making a payment for dispatch services to the county. Another city that I

1156
01:47:27,040 --> 01:47:56,860
that was similar to the size of Grandbury actually did the dispatch for the entire county and all the other entities and we charged fees to them based upon the formula that you just explained because we were providing services to people outside our tax base and the and that amount that was calculated into the county's portion was considered how much they also contributed the tax payer.

1157
01:47:56,860 --> 01:48:00,380
so they weren't being double taxed and that's what I'm trying to get at.

1158
01:48:01,500 --> 01:48:07,660
The other cities that I managed receive free dispatching service from the county because

1159
01:48:07,660 --> 01:48:11,220
they had the equipment and that was the way it was set up when I got there.

1160
01:48:11,620 --> 01:48:14,140
I've never negotiated one of these until I came here.

1161
01:48:14,620 --> 01:48:19,280
We had an agreement previous to my arriving here in 2015.

1162
01:48:19,280 --> 01:48:30,780
it matured in 2016 and the commissioner in precinct 2 was on a on a tear to review every

1163
01:48:30,780 --> 01:48:35,040
contract that the county had and make sure that they weren't having to pay for anything

1164
01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:41,940
they didn't have to pay for and so they renegotiated this contract and it was like $48,000 a year

1165
01:48:42,500 --> 01:48:51,000
and then they stepped it up in the increments in your packet and they stepped it up to the

1166
01:48:51,000 --> 01:48:58,840
148,000 to include hiring another dispatcher for the facility and they felt like that was fair.

1167
01:48:59,000 --> 01:49:04,800
The City Council at the time got tired of arguing with them and told me to sign the agreement.

1168
01:49:05,260 --> 01:49:06,460
So that's where we're at today.

1169
01:49:06,460 --> 01:49:13,140
we've never had that committee meeting has spelled out of a board meeting. Let me

1170
01:49:13,140 --> 01:49:21,220
look at your deal. This is for the benefit of the community that's here. I want

1171
01:49:24,160 --> 01:49:24,340
to

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01:49:24,340 --> 01:49:29,700
read the Hood County Dispatch Advisory Board Incorporated. So this is an

1173
01:49:29,700 --> 01:49:34,800
incorporated board that was supposed to be created. That's a separate entity

1174
01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:38,340
than the local government okay. That's an incorporation filed with the

1175
01:49:38,340 --> 01:49:49,160
Secretary of State. This is a board that's supposed to be created, shall oversee the operation of the dispatch services and make appropriate recommendations regarding policies of procedures.

1176
01:49:49,740 --> 01:49:58,420
There's a whole listing here of classes of members. The corporations shall have three classes of members established by the articles of the corporation and bylaws.

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The designation of the

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01:50:00,000 --> 01:50:29,480
Presentation of such classes and qualifications of the members of such classes are as follows. Full members, general membership shall include Hood County Sheriff and one delegate representing each one of the following. Hood County Area Police Departments, Grandbury Police Department, Hood County Emergency Management Coordinators Office, Hood County Area Volunteer Fire Department, Hood County Area EMS Operators, Plural, Hood County Commissioners Court, and

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01:50:29,480 --> 01:50:37,240
city of Granbury. When we received our termination notice in September of last year we asked what's

1180
01:50:37,240 --> 01:50:43,460
been going on with these meetings. Well, they hadn't been happening. The City Council appointed Greg

1181
01:50:43,460 --> 01:50:48,900
Corrigan to be that person to represent the city of Granbury. There's a at-large membership shall

1182
01:50:48,900 --> 01:50:54,500
include four Hood County residents. That means Hood County. That means anybody in Granbury could

1183
01:50:54,500 --> 01:51:00,360
serving that capacity too, their hood county could be nominated by the Hood County Sheriff

1184
01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:05,700
and confirmed by a vote of the full membership. Each at large member shall be allowed to

1185
01:51:05,700 --> 01:51:09,320
vote on issues before the board. And then there were honorary membership.

1186
01:51:09,780 --> 01:51:14,300
Honorary memberships may be granted by the board and encouraged participate in discussion

1187
01:51:15,020 --> 01:51:20,960
and will not be able to vote on issues before the board. So that's the structure that was

1188
01:51:20,960 --> 01:51:26,200
set up for our 9-1-1 dispatch, an independent, non-profit,

1189
01:51:26,420 --> 01:51:30,820
incorporated board was supposed to be established to regulate what goes on.

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01:51:31,160 --> 01:51:34,760
What's happened for the last 20 years, the best I can tell,

1191
01:51:35,000 --> 01:51:38,800
because I've never seen the corporation, is the sheriff has been running the show.

1192
01:51:39,540 --> 01:51:41,720
It doesn't matter who the sheriff is, that's what's been happening.

1193
01:51:41,960 --> 01:51:46,280
So we're here today trying to figure out what to do.

1194
01:51:46,280 --> 01:51:53,600
they've cut off the dispatch agreement, it will be effective October 1st, the

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01:51:53,600 --> 01:52:00,680
discontinuation of the service, or the contract. My point of contention is,

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01:52:01,020 --> 01:52:06,560
I've got $146,000 or $148,000 in our budget, budgeted for next year's

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01:52:06,560 --> 01:52:12,260
dispatch service, and you know what in October, I won't be able to wrap that check as

1198
01:52:12,260 --> 01:52:18,120
your city manager to the county for that dispatch service because we don't have an agreement.

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01:52:20,360 --> 01:52:25,460
So we need to hear this in some way and we need the county to come to the city council

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01:52:25,860 --> 01:52:31,220
and present something that they want and they're asking for instead of just backdoring it

1201
01:52:31,220 --> 01:52:37,860
through an agenda at their meeting and expecting us to show up and respond and all of a sudden

1202
01:52:37,860 --> 01:52:38,860
know this is the deal.

1203
01:52:38,860 --> 01:52:44,040
So I can't sign a contract without your authorization if it shows up at my doorstep between

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01:52:44,040 --> 01:52:45,400
now and October 1st.

1205
01:52:46,420 --> 01:52:47,780
I don't want that responsibility.

1206
01:52:48,260 --> 01:52:53,680
I want you all as the City Council, the governing body, to have a say so in this, just like

1207
01:52:54,120 --> 01:52:58,720
the county commissioners and the county judge have a say so in this.

1208
01:52:59,300 --> 01:53:04,660
And so I'm going to be quiet and express that I believe that we should be getting the service

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01:53:04,660 --> 01:53:05,200
for free.

1210
01:53:05,200 --> 01:53:12,040
If they are worried about the non-emergency calls, I'm sure we can work out some kind of arrangement around that.

1211
01:53:12,560 --> 01:53:22,820
Very few non-emergency calls go to the 911 center, but if they do, maybe there's a path forward that we could reconcile the expense that they're occurring for that.

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01:53:24,260 --> 01:53:34,420
Mitch is the recipient of that more than anyone in our community and he has expressed great concerns over this whole issue.

1213
01:53:34,420 --> 01:53:35,320
Yes,

1214
01:53:38,040 --> 01:53:43,460
to piggyback off of that and to kind of clarify what you were saying earlier, the county

1215
01:53:44,200 --> 01:53:49,360
Leely has to dispatch all of our 9-1-1 calls. So the emergency calls.

1216
01:53:49,860 --> 01:53:55,320
It don't legally have to dispatch the non-emergency calls. So if we're going to pay anything

1217
01:53:56,060 --> 01:54:01,700
and I agree with Chris, it shouldn't be it should be zero, but it has been

1218
01:54:02,900 --> 01:54:08,320
agree to in the past that we would pay something, those calls are the only calls that should

1219
01:54:08,320 --> 01:54:14,080
be considered. I don't care how much it costs to run dispatch or to add new employees

1220
01:54:14,080 --> 01:54:20,180
or whatever the case would be, that is the only amount of calls that should ever be taken

1221
01:54:20,180 --> 01:54:26,200
into consideration for an amount to be paid and the fact that we're the only ones that

1222
01:54:26,200 --> 01:54:32,800
pay it is a little concerned. Mr. Woodland? Cody, can you put the other slide back up please?

1223
01:54:34,000 --> 01:54:34,720
Are Michael?

1224
01:54:37,170 --> 01:54:37,230
No?

1225
01:54:50,260 --> 01:54:55,580
What really stood out when I saw this is that the city population is 17 and a half percent

1226
01:54:55,580 --> 01:54:59,780
of the county and our contribution to their total expenses.

1227
01:55:04,700 --> 01:55:23,420
I'm not saying we're not supposed, we should pay 17% because we are 17%. I'm just saying the city population is paying their fair share and then some. I'll go back with more than their fair share. But I'm like, next month, you don't write a check. I'm good with that.

1228
01:55:25,940 --> 01:55:29,660
If they want to come and bring them and present something to us and

1229
01:55:29,660 --> 01:55:32,700
and have a reasonable argument for why we should pay extra.

1230
01:55:33,480 --> 01:55:34,880
I'm certainly willing to listen to it.

1231
01:55:35,160 --> 01:55:37,080
A previous council 10 years ago apparently did.

1232
01:55:38,440 --> 01:55:41,600
But, or whatever it was, they just paid it.

1233
01:55:41,720 --> 01:55:46,140
Oh, but they need to come and tell us what they want

1234
01:55:46,140 --> 01:55:47,100
and why they want it.

1235
01:55:48,220 --> 01:55:51,700
A comment on the 17% population.

1236
01:55:52,700 --> 01:55:54,920
That's I think Tammy will tell us,

1237
01:55:54,920 --> 01:56:02,080
Monday through Thursday of Friday on Friday, Saturday, Sunday, we have a big population

1238
01:56:02,080 --> 01:56:07,560
because trying to get through my head, how do they take 30% of the calls out of 17%

1239
01:56:07,560 --> 01:56:14,940
of the population get, deal out 30% of the calls? Well, we have a lot of visitors to come

1240
01:56:14,940 --> 01:56:16,040
every weekend.

1241
01:56:16,360 --> 01:56:22,240
And we have at least two crashes on Highway 377 every day, statistically. Those are county

1242
01:56:22,240 --> 01:56:27,160
residents, those are state residents, those are people just driving through town that our police

1243
01:56:27,160 --> 01:56:32,820
department responds to and they're penalizing us in the formula by saying, oh, we need to charge

1244
01:56:32,820 --> 01:56:41,740
you more because there was a wreck in your city. Right. And just to know they are and waiting on

1245
01:56:41,740 --> 01:56:48,920
the results of a study regarding radio systems and dispatch. They don't have the results of that

1246
01:56:48,920 --> 01:56:53,900
That study had, that's one of the things Commissioner Precinct 1, Commissioner Andrews mentioned

1247
01:56:53,900 --> 01:56:57,640
that they are waiting on to see what the results of that are.

1248
01:57:00,760 --> 01:57:07,940
We've mentioned numerous times to county staff members and commissioners that we have built

1249
01:57:07,940 --> 01:57:13,560
a section of our dispatch, a section of our police station as future dispatch.

1250
01:57:13,560 --> 01:57:19,160
we've offered it up in various ways that we could talk about the city and the county together,

1251
01:57:19,680 --> 01:57:26,060
ways to share and possibly stand up as the county might need additional staff,

1252
01:57:26,320 --> 01:57:31,520
ways that we could share in that instead of just having empty space until the day we reach

1253
01:57:31,520 --> 01:57:38,520
a population where we can stand up our own piece of location and so those are things that we've

1254
01:57:39,900 --> 01:57:51,580
We've even reached out to this consultant independently and gave this information to them the things that we're willing to talk about, didn't commit to anything, obviously, but just the willingness to chat.

1255
01:57:52,160 --> 01:58:07,500
So what was really frustrating for me with this and so I took a week of vacation or tried to and I get noticed that there's a agenda item on the, I get noticed from my staff, not from the county.

1256
01:58:07,500 --> 01:58:16,540
that there's an agenda item on Tuesday's Commissioner Court meeting that wants us to pay $690 something thousand dollars for dispatch and they're going to vote on it.

1257
01:58:16,800 --> 01:58:28,340
And so I asked Michael to attend that meeting and try to represent us as best we could to understand that this is not how a deal like this should go down.

1258
01:58:30,400 --> 01:58:45,400
Unfortunately Commissioner Andrews pulled the item as it was his item on the agenda, but I reached out to the county judge and called left message his friend of mine he didn't call me back.

1259
01:58:45,860 --> 01:58:59,160
He did send me a text with a information that basically said they've been working on this quite a while and you've been contacted several times and had several meetings and

1260
01:58:59,160 --> 01:59:05,040
I was supposed to have had all these meetings with Commissioner Andrews and those never

1261
01:59:05,040 --> 01:59:05,480
happened.

1262
01:59:06,280 --> 01:59:12,120
And so I responded to him that, you know, there was going to be a meeting in June, please

1263
01:59:12,120 --> 01:59:13,900
was June, what did Jeremy, did you all set up?

1264
01:59:15,300 --> 01:59:19,820
Jeremy had been working with the sheriff's set this meeting up to sit down and have Mr.

1265
01:59:20,100 --> 01:59:24,840
Corgan, council member Corgan go to that meeting and represent the city and talk about this

1266
01:59:24,840 --> 01:59:25,680
dispatch agreement.

1267
01:59:26,520 --> 01:59:29,140
and they canceled that before the meeting

1268
01:59:29,580 --> 01:59:31,800
at the direction of the Commissioner's Court.

1269
01:59:32,580 --> 01:59:34,380
So this has been a deliberate

1270
01:59:37,300 --> 01:59:39,260
action by the Commissioner's Court

1271
01:59:39,260 --> 01:59:43,280
to wait till the last minute to address this.

1272
01:59:43,680 --> 01:59:46,680
And I've had one meeting with Commissioner Andrews

1273
01:59:47,260 --> 01:59:49,720
about a month ago, maybe three weeks ago,

1274
01:59:50,380 --> 01:59:52,000
that we talked about the dispatch,

1275
01:59:52,540 --> 01:59:54,820
and he said, I think it should be free like you do.

1276
01:59:54,820 --> 01:59:59,580
and we didn't talk any more about it and so I'm very

1277
02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:29,840
We've talked of the misinformation being shared at the county level about how many times Michael Ross, Chris Collins, and Chris Kaufman have been in communication related to this patch agreement. And they're all false statements. Chris Collins has a Grandbury Regional Radio Network meeting every month with the stakeholders. It's not on their agenda to talk about this patch service. They have not been talking about it. But that's not what's being communicated

1278
02:00:29,840 --> 02:00:34,240
to the county commissioners and the county judge particularly.

1279
02:00:35,060 --> 02:00:46,220
So we've got some misinformation being shared among folks in the dispatch service to the emergency management coordinator, to the county judge, it's misinformation.

1280
02:00:47,400 --> 02:00:51,260
And I for one don't want to get in the middle of all this, but

1281
02:00:51,260 --> 02:00:56,500
I will tell you that whoever is going to represent the county needs to come to stand right there and

1282
02:00:56,500 --> 02:01:01,020
And tell y'all what they're asking for if they want a half million dollars more than

1283
02:01:01,020 --> 02:01:02,000
what we budgeted for.

1284
02:01:03,400 --> 02:01:04,280
Simple as that.

1285
02:01:04,600 --> 02:01:10,060
They shouldn't just come up and put it on their agenda to pass an ordinance or pass a

1286
02:01:10,060 --> 02:01:12,100
agreement and say, we're going to hand this to the city.

1287
02:01:12,920 --> 02:01:17,300
City manager, by the way, he's been talking to everybody, they know all about it, which

1288
02:01:17,300 --> 02:01:21,720
is completely inaccurate, and I'm not going to get in the middle of all that.

1289
02:01:21,720 --> 02:01:36,240
I'm going to tell y'all that they need to come here and speak in an open meeting and explain what they're asking for to the tax payers of Grandbury, why they think they need another half million dollars to provide emergency services that they should be providing for free.

1290
02:01:36,620 --> 02:01:38,000
That's all I'm going to say. I'm done.

1291
02:01:38,000 --> 02:01:48,780
Well, Mr. Coveman, you keep saying providing for free, and I'm sitting here looking at a city limits inside the city limits property tax of six million eight hundred and seventy two thousand two hundred and forty dollars.

1292
02:01:49,200 --> 02:02:01,940
We are buying something and we're buying county courts. We're buying, you know, I'm not saying that it's not an appropriate amount for what we get.

1293
02:02:01,940 --> 02:02:18,660
But if if I move out across the city limit and I don't have to pay for the this service, but I move back in and I have to pay for it, and our taxes are no, I think you know, no.

1294
02:02:19,220 --> 02:02:25,540
Well, you have a separate road tax, one's the county tax, one's the last time the county did a city road of any kind.

1295
02:02:27,620 --> 02:02:31,500
I don't know, the county does the city road, I mean that just doesn't happen.

1296
02:02:32,300 --> 02:02:35,560
Well, the, it

1297
02:02:38,220 --> 02:02:42,040
is a dilemma, it has to be resolved.

1298
02:02:42,540 --> 02:02:54,160
We cannot have, we can't be double taxed, in my opinion, and we're paying, we're paying

1299
02:02:54,160 --> 02:03:02,760
25% of the county total budget, as it is, with actions and goods that come out of the city limits.

1300
02:03:03,620 --> 02:03:05,820
So we're like this.

1301
02:03:06,520 --> 02:03:09,180
We've got to work this out, one way or the other.

1302
02:03:09,440 --> 02:03:22,420
But starting at $650,000 for something that used to cost $148, and still paying 24% of all of the taxes

1303
02:03:22,420 --> 02:03:31,860
is, all of the property taxes that go in for county goods, I think we, I think we

1304
02:03:31,860 --> 02:03:33,160
had, I think we might have to get them.

1305
02:03:34,400 --> 02:03:41,260
We would have had to, have levied another 2.5 cents to our tax rate to cover that half

1306
02:03:41,260 --> 02:03:41,940
million dollars.

1307
02:03:42,600 --> 02:03:42,740
Right.

1308
02:03:43,700 --> 02:03:51,680
And it's other, another point, the advisory board is mandated under state statute that the

1309
02:03:51,680 --> 02:04:00,580
the county provide that, and all the counties that have similar arrangements have those similar advisory boards that actually function other than Hood County.

1310
02:04:01,140 --> 02:04:20,480
Yeah, I went online and started looking at the same thing you did and how do you do, who's paying what, and either the city's taking it over, the girl to the point where they can get the equipment and we continue to forget to remind people that because the city does have, or because the county does have the equipment they get what,

1311
02:04:20,480 --> 02:04:25,560
50 cents a month from everybody that has a land line and I think that's even

1312
02:04:25,560 --> 02:04:30,660
extended and to cell phones at this point. So it's not like they're not getting

1313
02:04:30,660 --> 02:04:36,700
some kind of referrals and the cog in the state bought the equipment. It's not

1314
02:04:36,700 --> 02:04:40,520
a purchase so it's an operating expense. We should be able to get hold of them.

1315
02:04:41,180 --> 02:04:45,720
From a call center standpoint, which is where I live for about 15 years, getting

1316
02:04:45,720 --> 02:04:50,780
in a call, knowing where it came from, how long it is, who had it and where it went, is

1317
02:04:50,780 --> 02:04:57,980
basic math, so we can keep track very easily of what calls are non-emergency calls that

1318
02:04:57,980 --> 02:04:59,980
are routed to, I think the-

1319
02:05:00,000 --> 02:05:29,180
We'll go to the chief's house so they can be taken care of there. Well, the segue on that, my question is not emergency, not one one calls, but approximately how many calls a day are we talking about from the city non-emergency calls, approximately how many? They haven't shared that information with us. So my next question is I'm a numbers person to mayor and they're asking us for almost $2,000 a day.

1320
02:05:30,300 --> 02:05:37,780
That's when it will stop you. You are a number first. So it's not $1552 a day. So if we're

1321
02:05:37,780 --> 02:05:44,840
talking we're getting ten calls, my question to my constituency, do you think non-emergency

1322
02:05:44,840 --> 02:05:47,900
calls are worth $200 each?

1323
02:05:50,080 --> 02:05:55,800
Are you willing to pay $200 for a non-emergency call? I'm seeing

1324
02:05:55,800 --> 02:06:00,640
a lot of headshaking back and forth. That doesn't make sense to me either. So, I've won,

1325
02:06:00,920 --> 02:06:07,120
I'd like to know how many non-emergency calls because they're obligated to take the emergency

1326
02:06:07,120 --> 02:06:09,160
calls. And that's it.

1327
02:06:12,710 --> 02:06:17,630
Well, this was a discussion item. Do we need a motion or we just don't pay

1328
02:06:17,630 --> 02:06:18,230
the bill next month?

1329
02:06:21,090 --> 02:06:25,190
Well, there's no authorization to pay the bill.

1330
02:06:25,870 --> 02:06:43,950
If council would like us to have those communications that Chris mentioned, I mean you can, council could just direct or whatever you think Chris tell us to go have those communications and request that the county come present their proposal to the city council.

1331
02:06:43,950 --> 02:06:44,030
So

1332
02:06:55,130 --> 02:07:04,850
I make a motion that the city manager set the set it up where the county can come make a presentation

1333
02:07:04,850 --> 02:07:09,710
thus regarding dispatch services so we can understand what they want from us.

1334
02:07:12,110 --> 02:07:13,210
Do we have a second?

1335
02:07:13,850 --> 02:07:14,190
Second.

1336
02:07:14,910 --> 02:07:15,750
Mr. Corrigan.

1337
02:07:16,290 --> 02:07:16,630
Second.

1338
02:07:17,550 --> 02:07:18,950
All in favor say aye.

1339
02:07:19,270 --> 02:07:19,410
Aye.

1340
02:07:19,910 --> 02:07:20,450
All opposed.

1341
02:07:24,060 --> 02:07:24,740
So do you sleep.

1342
02:07:25,560 --> 02:07:44,260
All the policy day, I hear no nays and Mr. Carlton, Michael thank you and if you need help on that from anyone on the council, I'm sure that you feel free to just reach out because we will do that.

1343
02:07:45,200 --> 02:07:49,120
Yeah, we do need them to kind of let us know what they're thinking here.

1344
02:07:50,580 --> 02:07:51,360
all right

1345
02:07:53,660 --> 02:07:56,300
okay

1346
02:08:09,940 --> 02:08:14,180
could you do it quickly yes

1347
02:08:19,740 --> 02:08:25,880
sir it's bedtime it's so I don't

1348
02:08:25,880 --> 02:08:31,360
want to waste any base I'm sorry sir sonny bird I have a property at Indian Creek

1349
02:08:31,360 --> 02:08:36,410
Trail and another one being built at Rick Baugh or 3574 Rick Baugh which is

1350
02:08:36,410 --> 02:08:42,050
the meta-wood. A couple of questions, and I appreciate the banter back and forth to

1351
02:08:42,050 --> 02:08:47,290
not the information that we were given. One thing we couldn't, we can't change some

1352
02:08:47,290 --> 02:08:51,350
of this because of the state law, but could we have protected ourselves by not changing

1353
02:08:51,350 --> 02:08:58,590
the zoning originally? Like, are you guys forced to change zoning? Because PNZ asked for it

1354
02:08:58,590 --> 02:09:03,630
not to be changed. I think it went five-one. So is that something that can protect us in

1355
02:09:03,630 --> 02:09:06,170
in the future as a town.

1356
02:09:11,390 --> 02:09:17,830
So the issue with that particular zone, as to that specific piece of property is that

1357
02:09:17,830 --> 02:09:22,210
there was a permit that had been secured from the state.

1358
02:09:23,210 --> 02:09:27,990
And when that property was annexed in, there is a provision in chapter 43 of the Texas

1359
02:09:27,990 --> 02:09:35,110
local government code that expressly states when a municipality annexes a property that already

1360
02:09:35,110 --> 02:09:42,890
has a vested use and in that case it was an industrial use. The city cannot divest that

1361
02:09:42,890 --> 02:09:48,670
property of that use. So in essence what the city did is when we annexed it we took it

1362
02:09:48,670 --> 02:09:54,850
in as interim holding because that's what the staff normally does. They didn't have knowledge

1363
02:09:54,850 --> 02:09:59,870
of that vested permit once it was brought to our attention. The city effectively didn't

1364
02:10:01,700 --> 02:10:29,620
We went back and said, oh, when we took it in, we made a mistake, we just fixed an error. It was a house cleaning thing. It was not an intentional. We're going to go in and rezone this and make it industrial. We were protecting ourselves and the taxpayers from litigation because the developer that had that vested use threatened, well, we'll sue you, and they would win. Now, we could have said, okay, we're not going to rezone it to industrial.

1365
02:10:29,620 --> 02:10:45,460
it'll just be a non-conforming use, but that's not going to change the use of the land, so you look at it and say, well you have a non-conforming use, we can't stop you from using it in an industrial way, or we can make it consistent with the plan that we already had in place.

1366
02:10:46,840 --> 02:10:58,080
So it just made it cleaner and easier to go ahead and do the zoning, but that was merely specifically to that property was a housekeeping issue so that we were legally compliant.

1367
02:10:58,080 --> 02:11:08,040
I hope you all understand, we're not here to argue, especially myself, Mac, Bennett mentioned, I have two little girls, Logan and Andy, they're 10 and 7.

1368
02:11:08,820 --> 02:11:14,300
We live next to what will be second, or we, we're building next to second chance farm, she had to leave.

1369
02:11:15,780 --> 02:11:19,600
We're concerned, and I've said both things can be true.

1370
02:11:19,600 --> 02:11:24,300
I can very much respect each of you, and I can still feel disappointed for myself.

1371
02:11:25,180 --> 02:11:28,040
Mr. Kaufman, you've said you've had numerous talks with bilateral.

1372
02:11:28,860 --> 02:11:33,320
Y'all, I have tried since January to get someone to respond to me, and no one has.

1373
02:11:33,900 --> 02:11:39,000
And the city posted a politician that said there are bad actors out there.

1374
02:11:39,780 --> 02:11:41,980
One that doesn't represent us, we didn't vote for them.

1375
02:11:42,500 --> 02:11:45,000
And now, I feel like there are bad actors.

1376
02:11:45,300 --> 02:11:47,640
I just need some information, right?

1377
02:11:47,640 --> 02:11:52,560
right? My property will never sell, you know, no one's going to want to live next to

1378
02:11:52,560 --> 02:11:57,940
this, what it could be. And so we're scared. And I don't know how to get in contact with

1379
02:11:57,940 --> 02:12:03,660
them. And then the city again posted. How do we get in contact? We posted a website. I've

1380
02:12:03,660 --> 02:12:11,640
tried that. I've tried not to post anything that is not true, right? And I saw the TCEQ

1381
02:12:11,640 --> 02:12:17,580
now we can get on there and, you know, put new public comments.

1382
02:12:18,360 --> 02:12:20,520
And like I said, we're just really scared.

1383
02:12:20,900 --> 02:12:21,980
I'm not a data person.

1384
02:12:22,400 --> 02:12:25,960
I think come up your rule, nice that Mr. Dan did, but I'm a human person.

1385
02:12:26,480 --> 02:12:27,620
And we all are.

1386
02:12:28,100 --> 02:12:32,380
So please know that it's not hate, you said, he'll be hate.

1387
02:12:32,780 --> 02:12:34,520
It's not hate, it's fear.

1388
02:12:35,240 --> 02:12:41,060
And so I just asked you, Dr. Bruce, I heard you in the hallway, come talk to me.

1389
02:12:41,060 --> 02:12:42,220
you know, talking to someone else.

1390
02:12:42,860 --> 02:12:45,360
And then Mr. Greg said, I can't talk to you

1391
02:12:45,360 --> 02:12:46,120
because it's in litigation.

1392
02:12:46,580 --> 02:12:48,040
We said that several months ago in an email.

1393
02:12:48,620 --> 02:12:50,860
So I'm just trying to do the right thing.

1394
02:12:51,620 --> 02:12:53,040
Have you seen their website?

1395
02:12:54,020 --> 02:12:54,420
Yes, sir.

1396
02:12:54,840 --> 02:12:55,740
That's all we know, too.

1397
02:12:58,500 --> 02:13:03,360
So some of that's scary because we said in the one,

1398
02:13:03,680 --> 02:13:05,880
you know, we talked afterwards several of us did.

1399
02:13:07,340 --> 02:13:09,660
And we felt as though, and I'm not

1400
02:13:09,660 --> 02:13:13,620
speaking on everybody. When we had to do open records to find out what was

1401
02:13:13,620 --> 02:13:18,400
happening, it's like what do we trust? And I keep looking at Carla, she's done a

1402
02:13:18,400 --> 02:13:21,760
wonderful job and I thank you, I feel like you've been thrown under the bus, just

1403
02:13:21,760 --> 02:13:27,900
thank you for everything you've done. So we don't know like what is the truth,

1404
02:13:28,060 --> 02:13:31,760
right? What is what's been done in back rooms? What's an NDA?

1405
02:13:33,840 --> 02:13:34,720
You know if you have

1406
02:13:34,720 --> 02:13:37,560
more information, you said you've been on the phone. I don't know what you can

1407
02:13:37,560 --> 02:13:43,760
share with us. Come out, come see where we're building our land, our home. We bought the

1408
02:13:43,760 --> 02:13:48,920
land because we buried our dog out there. Honestly, we have a soul that friend of ours

1409
02:13:48,920 --> 02:13:54,200
owned it and she sold it to us because our dukes out there. So again, Mr. Jeff, it's not

1410
02:13:54,200 --> 02:13:57,880
an argument towards you. I appreciate your website and everything you've done. Council,

1411
02:13:58,000 --> 02:14:04,740
I appreciate you. I want to work with you. Let me ask you. Have you been to bilateral

1412
02:14:04,740 --> 02:14:08,560
lateral energy's website. They're paid, they're paid for project

1413
02:14:08,560 --> 02:14:11,920
pages. Yes, sir. Okay. That's the information we have as

1414
02:14:11,920 --> 02:14:15,300
well. Okay. And you can see that on our website as well. We've

1415
02:14:15,300 --> 02:14:17,860
got that link provided. Yes, sir. But we just got that like a

1416
02:14:17,860 --> 02:14:21,220
month ago. Yes, sir. I went to it as soon as we've been asking

1417
02:14:21,220 --> 02:14:26,380
for information forever. So they're not providing it to us

1418
02:14:26,380 --> 02:14:30,040
because whatever reason they have. But I would like to just

1419
02:14:30,040 --> 02:14:33,580
Let's remind everybody that it's within earshot of what we're saying.

1420
02:14:34,480 --> 02:14:42,880
That project was designed and on track to be built in the county long before they asked

1421
02:14:42,880 --> 02:14:46,480
to be in the seller of the property, asked to be annexed.

1422
02:14:46,780 --> 02:14:53,620
That was a blessing because we can put development standards in place like we've done to keep

1423
02:14:53,620 --> 02:14:56,220
whoever builds there from building junk.

1424
02:14:56,220 --> 02:14:59,780
We're trying to protect our community.

1425
02:15:00,240 --> 02:15:30,220
And you're part of our community. We feel like even though you're in the DTJ, you're who we want to protect. And that's why we adopted those additional standards in April. Before we did the zoning change. And so we're trying to use all of our abilities, work through the state laws, the matrix, the obstacles that the state puts before us, to get something that when it is

1426
02:15:30,220 --> 02:15:35,300
built if it is built that that we can all be proud of and say well that's not

1427
02:15:35,300 --> 02:15:39,860
what we wanted there we'd like the pasture but we couldn't afford to buy the

1428
02:15:39,860 --> 02:15:43,500
land ourselves and somebody else bought it and they've done what they wanted to

1429
02:15:43,500 --> 02:15:48,720
with it but if we can if we can put some parameters in place that makes it

1430
02:15:48,720 --> 02:15:57,180
pretty that makes it safe that makes it not a nuisance I think John Copeland said

1431
02:15:57,180 --> 02:15:59,980
at best we don't want to hear it and we don't want to see it.

1432
02:16:00,160 --> 02:16:00,460
Yes, sir.

1433
02:16:00,840 --> 02:16:02,020
And I have fears with the construction.

1434
02:16:02,040 --> 02:16:07,440
And that's what we're trying to accomplish if we can ever get them to the table when

1435
02:16:07,440 --> 02:16:12,140
we're ready where it's able to be brought forward and that's kind of where we're at.

1436
02:16:12,420 --> 02:16:18,320
So I don't see this moving very fast if at all, but that's just my perspective.

1437
02:16:18,700 --> 02:16:26,140
So take take heart that this group of people up here are sincere about protecting Grand

1438
02:16:26,140 --> 02:16:29,920
in our community and maintaining our quality of life

1439
02:16:29,920 --> 02:16:32,240
and our historical preservation.

1440
02:16:33,180 --> 02:16:35,920
You know, that out there out in the county

1441
02:16:35,920 --> 02:16:38,840
was going to get developed, the land owner,

1442
02:16:39,040 --> 02:16:44,140
thank goodness Dr. Rady and his team asked to be annexed.

1443
02:16:44,740 --> 02:16:47,400
To my knowledge, the property still is owned by Dr. Rady.

1444
02:16:47,960 --> 02:16:50,840
And to my knowledge, it's still under contract

1445
02:16:50,840 --> 02:16:53,320
to be sold to this bilateral group.

1446
02:16:54,660 --> 02:16:56,640
That's on the website, that's all we know.

1447
02:16:57,900 --> 02:17:01,840
And yeah, we'd love to learn more and learn to do more,

1448
02:17:01,980 --> 02:17:04,180
but there are obstacles in our way

1449
02:17:04,180 --> 02:17:05,840
from being able to accomplish anything.

1450
02:17:06,180 --> 02:17:08,000
So, thanks for coming to that.

1451
02:17:08,300 --> 02:17:10,020
Well, I appreciate this.

1452
02:17:10,220 --> 02:17:12,280
And if we ever had a town hall and we sat down

1453
02:17:12,280 --> 02:17:16,600
in Mr. Sirell, I was going based off of the thing

1454
02:17:16,600 --> 02:17:19,240
on the website, you'll know I'm not well versed in this.

1455
02:17:19,320 --> 02:17:22,300
This is not my well house, you know, and well house.

1456
02:17:22,300 --> 02:17:29,440
And when you look at what had been planned, you know, in the book, we never thought this would happen, and I get that.

1457
02:17:29,840 --> 02:17:39,440
And we're in uncharted territory, but please just know it's from fear, we're your neighbors, we love you guys, regardless of where our address is, and so please help protect us.

1458
02:17:39,460 --> 02:17:47,460
If you had told us two years ago that there was going to be seven to ten data centers proposed in Hood County, we would have said, what's the data center?

1459
02:17:47,460 --> 02:17:54,680
right correct yes we were unprepared just like the rest of the nation right and so this isn't just

1460
02:17:54,680 --> 02:18:02,060
us it's all over and unfortunately I've got five people up here are going to be on a recall ballot

1461
02:18:02,060 --> 02:18:08,560
if they stick around you know Greg won't be because he's not running for reelection but he got

1462
02:18:08,560 --> 02:18:13,280
recalled anyway doesn't make sense why you'd recall somebody that's not running for office but

1463
02:18:13,280 --> 02:18:22,480
That's what they did, so here we go, and we're trying to follow the law and do what the City Charter says, do what the State Law says.

1464
02:18:23,340 --> 02:18:25,100
Well, thank you for this conversation.

1465
02:18:25,620 --> 02:18:25,940
Thank you.

1466
02:18:25,960 --> 02:18:27,680
Thank you all for staying after for me.

1467
02:18:27,920 --> 02:18:28,140
Thank you.

1468
02:18:28,640 --> 02:18:28,940
All right.

1469
02:18:31,560 --> 02:18:32,620
Do we have other things?

1470
02:18:33,740 --> 02:18:34,120
Anyone else?

1471
02:18:34,480 --> 02:18:34,780
Okay.

1472
02:18:35,660 --> 02:18:39,880
I'm going to now declare that the City Council is convening an open session.

1473
02:18:39,880 --> 02:18:43,160
The minimum of members are, Quorum of members are present.

1474
02:18:44,000 --> 02:18:47,800
Councilperson Olam is appearing via video conferences advertised.

1475
02:18:48,080 --> 02:18:52,420
The City Council will now go into closed session, pursuant to provisions to Texas government

1476
02:18:52,420 --> 02:18:55,560
code in accordance with the authority containing the following sections.

1477
02:18:55,880 --> 02:19:03,960
551, consultation with attorney pending or contemplated litigation, and 551-072 deliberation

1478
02:19:03,960 --> 02:19:05,500
regarding real property.

1479
02:19:06,380 --> 02:19:15,480
and Mr. Goodett, Mr. Olam will be in the executive session with us as for the code. Thank you.

1480
02:20:42,030 --> 02:20:48,970
Okay. I now declare that it's, what, 10 to 10? I declare that the Grandbury City Council

1481
02:20:48,970 --> 02:20:54,570
recommends an open session. There was no action taken in closed session, and the

1482
02:20:54,570 --> 02:21:00,890
Court of the Members are present with the Councilman. Councilperson Ullham is

1483
02:21:00,890 --> 02:21:07,770
continuing to appear via video conference as we advertised. Council, any other business?

1484
02:21:10,590 --> 02:21:14,630
I make a motion to reconsider agenda item 7.1.

1485
02:21:17,270 --> 02:21:25,930
I hear a motion to reconsider agenda item 7.1 and I have a second, do you have more

1486
02:21:25,930 --> 02:21:29,630
to add to that or just do we consider moving on to that first?

1487
02:21:29,990 --> 02:21:30,310
Okay.

1488
02:21:31,630 --> 02:21:31,870
All right.

1489
02:21:32,010 --> 02:21:33,030
All in favor say aye.

1490
02:21:33,330 --> 02:21:33,570
Aye.

1491
02:21:33,570 --> 02:21:36,070
I hear

1492
02:21:38,120 --> 02:21:40,360
no nays that will pass 6 to no.

1493
02:21:42,590 --> 02:21:43,310
Additionally?

1494
02:21:43,770 --> 02:21:44,070
Yes, sir.

1495
02:21:44,450 --> 02:21:49,790
I make a motion to postpone definitely item 7.1 till February 2nd, 2027.

1496
02:21:51,680 --> 02:21:52,720
Do I hear a second?

1497
02:21:54,120 --> 02:21:54,680
Second.

1498
02:21:56,860 --> 02:21:58,440
Because second.

1499
02:21:58,840 --> 02:22:05,380
Motion is to postpone definitely till February 2nd, 2026.

1500
02:22:07,200 --> 02:22:08,280
February 7th.

1501
02:22:08,280 --> 02:22:09,040
Second.

1502
02:22:09,160 --> 02:22:10,000
Second.

1503
02:22:10,000 --> 02:22:10,800
227.

1504
02:22:11,420 --> 02:22:11,580
Oh.

1505
02:22:11,780 --> 02:22:12,020
Second.

1506
02:22:12,900 --> 02:22:13,320
2027.

1507
02:22:15,730 --> 02:22:25,950
So do I hear a motion and I have a second to postpone the motion that we just recalled

1508
02:22:25,950 --> 02:22:29,570
until February 2nd, 2027.

1509
02:22:31,780 --> 02:22:33,340
All in favor say aye.

1510
02:22:35,280 --> 02:22:36,840
All opposed say nay.

1511
02:22:37,440 --> 02:22:39,480
The two will pass six and no.

1512
02:22:41,040 --> 02:22:41,760
Other business?

1513
02:22:43,900 --> 02:22:47,160
I hear no other business. I announce this meeting adjourned.