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first time I got to use the gavvel.

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everybody. I would like to call the

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joint city and county meeting to order

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p.m. and then Mel will call the meeting

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to order for the county.

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>> Yeah, let's call the county commission

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meeting for April 17, 2026 at what time?

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120 12:31.

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And those present are Tonnie Kenson

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Boyd, Michael McCertie, commissioner,

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sorry, councilwoman, Colin Topper,

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Trisha Dean, County Commissioner, Jason

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Taylor, County Councilman, Michael

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Black, city administrator, Joet,

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mayor, Megan, Melody McCandless, myself,

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commission chair. We have Quinn Hall,

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Commissioner Bill Winfield, Councilman

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um Caitlyn Meyers. This is hard. Um,

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>> Yeah. And, you know, we're we'll be a

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refer to each other by our first names

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just to make it a little not such a

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mouthful. Um, I have a couple of

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housekeeping things. We will be sharing

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microphones, so they move back and

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forth. You don't actually have to move

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them. So, and and they're pretty you can

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pick up everybody, but if you wouldn't

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mind sharing your mics, that would be

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great. Um, and if everybody could

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silence their cell phones and county

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council members and commissioners, if

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you could uh put do not disturb and keep

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your cell phones uh out of out of touch,

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everybody that we are operating under

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the city's code of conduct and rules of

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order. I expect a basic level of uh

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decorum from everybody here, including

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the audience. I want to make sure we

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keep it respectful, that we stay focused

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on the topics, and let's make sure we

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end up with a productive conversation

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that actually allows us to move things

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say this is something that Melody and I

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have been working on for I guess since

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you've been the chair actually and we

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even talked about it before that that we

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really felt it was important for the

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city and the county to get together and

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talk about things that we could work

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towards over the next couple of years.

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because there's so much that we could be

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working on. So we we came together and

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we identified the issues that are on the

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agenda that we we felt were things that

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we could be working on now, working on

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like tomorrow and things that we could

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look into the future that we could uh

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share and collaborate on. So I really

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appreciate Mel's persistence in making

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sure we make this happen and hopefully

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the future. So with that, our first uh

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great. The pile is gone uh or almost

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about how we got there and where we need

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to go in the future. So, we're going to

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kind of an update on the future sites

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that both bodies um the city resolution

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192023 and the Grant County resolution

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approved in support of this uh of this

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uh vision for our for the umpsite from

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the community. So, take it away ladies.

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presentation case and uh Saxon has been

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single one of them. This was our third

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rendition of the future sites and so I

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felt like she was even more qualified

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than myself to help with this

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presentation. So, I'm going to pass it

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over to her to talk it through the

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slides, but we'll both be here to answer

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questions and then I'll have a statement

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slide 2001 and 2025, and it looks like

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we're finally rounding the corner uh to

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actually implementing something on this

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property. So this is just a quick

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presentation about what's happened in

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the last decade and uh what the site

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futures committee has done. Okay.

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other stuff. But the tailings

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themselves, what was placed there as

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futures committee was established in

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2012 and the mission is to conduct a

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public planning process to develop a

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community vision for the site. And the

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Grand County and Moab City uh will

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acquire, develop, and manage the former

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site uh in cooperation uh with other

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agencies for a wide range of uh

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amenities. And the uh the five-year

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update of community vision is required

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by the city and the county resolutions.

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opportunity for continued DOE funding

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and cleanup. uh if we had a plan, we

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felt like it would be easier uh when our

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representatives, many of you are in the

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room, uh went go to Washington and uh

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asked for more money for the cleanup. It

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will determine what infrastructure may

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transfer with the property and that's

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where we are now. We need to come up

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with a list by June 1st of what

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infrastructure things uh we would like

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transferred. It's a guide to future

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planning and management of the site and

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also obtaining community input for

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desired future use. So both Moab City

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and Grand County endorsed each one of

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these three plans and it was uh

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unanimous uh for all uh all votes on all

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futures came up with was to continue

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collaboration with the DOE and work in

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partnership uh with the office of legacy

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management. And number three, plan

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future site use is based on the

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community's visions and needs. Four,

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prioritize health and safety throughout

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the site divine design and facility

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development. And two, pursue short and

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long-term sources of funding. There

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Number six, use sound planning to create

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a welcoming north gateway to Moab. Uh

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develop a phased multi-year

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implementation plan. So, obviously, it's

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not going to all go in in one fell

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swoop. Uh what how do we want to start?

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How what do we want to implement first?

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Incorporate environmental sustainability

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and energy conservation measures. uh

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emphasize resource conservation and

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enhancement and to recognize existing

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rights of way and property deed

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the entire site are either in the flood

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road um conservation easements and then

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sovereign lands uh mainly the uh part

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portions of the river. So that those are

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uh constraints and DOE legacy management

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of liability. So everything the site

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futures committee has gone forward so

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far was no overnight uh anything on the

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contamination uh might be an issue

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digging foundations footings. We won't

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farther on with their remediation.

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culinary groundwater is not available on

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because uh you know it will be cleaned

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up to the standards that it would you

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get it that clean. However, because uh

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of uh legacy management and the

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restrictions they're going to have to

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put on it, like every bucket of dirt

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has to be tested. Uh so any type of you

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know if you especially if you think

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housing not so much with a motel hotel

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but with housing that would be separate

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people doing separate things and to

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manage the comingings and goings of dirt

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disturb the groundwater.

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cleaned up throughout the nation uh they

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discouraged any overnight because even

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if they couldn't prove it someone could

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got cancer and it's the type of cancer

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you get from blah blah blah and the

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liability is increased greatly. If we

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could just focus on the site future for this evening. We've got a li limited

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limited amount of time. So if you could

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just show us continue with the public

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outreach process and the fact that we

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will be going through this process again

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futures committee. I don't know somehow

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that ended up being in red uh in the

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transfer of the slideshow. Um three

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people have been on the site futures

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committee since the beginning. One was

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Norm uh and myself and then Russ von

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Koke and public outreach. You can read

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that that we had a couple workshops and

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a comment period. Uh that first one.

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Second one in 2018. Um again uh the list

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gets a little bit longer as to who was

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on the site committee and uh we had a a

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web page. Uh we went more on the

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computer this time. web page, a public

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comment period, an open house, another

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comment period. So that was 2018.

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longer and we started with an open house

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and an online survey uh for the

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community and there were 179 survey

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responses and then we held an open house

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you have seen the map of this. I won't

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go over it. Um but the community vision

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basically focuses on resident friendly uses. People in town really

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wanted something uh for residents. There

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was strong support for an event center

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sort of like a a Red Rocks amphitheater

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thing, trails, a boat ramp, and a

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transit center. And the DI design should

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reduce water use and environmental

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impacts and increase sustainability. And

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on the map, you can see the kind of red

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brown stippled area. That is the flood

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plane as best as we can determine right

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now. It'll change a little bit as they

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excavate some more dirt. Um, but the

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really the viable part to put things is

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the uh the upper left hand part of the

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site. So, uh that's near uh the pot ash

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road there. So, um, that's it.

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>> So, Saxon, there's really roughly about

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a 100 acres that can be built out of

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483, correct? [clears throat]

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>> Yeah. Yeah.

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>> So, um, proposed infrastructure to

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remain just to kind of kick that off

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since that's something that, uh, is

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looking as right in front of all of us.

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Um, the DOE administrative office area

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with the road, the parking lot, modular

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buildings, septic tank in Leechfield.

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Some of those buildings may not be uh

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viable. They might be more of a

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liability than an asset. Uh access

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roads, the main one you get to from 191

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and there are two access roads on the

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potach road and the DOE rail sighting um

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and the safety wall. It does not look

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like the cliff stability monitoring

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system is uh something to take on. Uh

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it's expensive is what we've learned the

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last few weeks. And then the

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infrastructure, I won't read all that.

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You can take a look at that. But, uh,

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that's what's there. And, uh, community

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vision infrastructure needs obviously

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going to need, uh, water up there and

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probably some kind of something for

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waste.

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And I think that's the last one. I mean,

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there are a couple, but no, I won't go

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over that. So, I'm done.

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>> Can you put up the a slide of the site

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plan?

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So um it as you see each year that we

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got closer to the end more and more

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people became interested and so more and

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more people became involved in the

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process and I'm sure in next year when

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we start the process again that uh we'll

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even have a larger group that will show

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interest. Uh what's happened since we've

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gotten so close is I know I'm getting a

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lot of talk about well this has to

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happen on the site, this has to happen

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on the site and I want this to happen on

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the site. It's even been DOE even said

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people told him that this was not the

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plan that the people wanted anymore that

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people have changed their mind. they

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want a different plan and I don't know

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how they know that because this was a

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big process we went through to find out

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and so I guess until things change this

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is pretty much what we're you know

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somewhat the plan and it could very much

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change by the next time and uh I hope

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people that want to be part of the

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process you know get become part of the

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process when when it opens up again next

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year. Are there any questions?

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So, as Mary mentioned, next year in 27

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will probably be our final community

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vision process. I know there are other

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ideas. Not surprised by that. The closer

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you get to the closure of a site, other

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people have other ideas. Some of you

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were involved in this 2023 process and

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are new to it. So, looking forward to

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that next year in 27. Um, and bring your

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ideas forward. Nothing's off the table.

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Um, however, with that being said, at

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our infrastructure meeting we had just

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the other day, the DOE did say when the property is transferred, and for

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people that don't know this, we do have

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legislation in Congress to transfer the

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site to the GR to Grant County, and that

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Grant County has agreed that they will

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work with the city uh to help whatever

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we end up moving forward with. and we'll

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talk about that in a minute. But they

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did say there will be deed restrictions.

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They didn't tell us what those deed

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restrictions are. And so until we know

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what those deed restrictions, it's hard

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to know what we can actually do. We do

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know that they've seen this site and

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this what we planned on this, you know,

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in this plan were things that they said

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would be doable. But anyway, we we'll

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see where that falls out and try see if

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we can get some more information with

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the Department of Energy. But if anybody

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has any questions about this process and

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where we are today, knowing that you're

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going to have an opportunity to come to

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the table next year and put all of those

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ideas out there.

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>> Any questions? Yes, Brian.

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>> So, what have the conversations been

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like with legacy management? What

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they're going to need?

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>> We haven't really had a whole lot of

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conversations with legacy management yet

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because they're kind of not involved.

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The only part that we did was we went to

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over to Los Colonus in in Colorado

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because they had a similar site and they

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kind of told us the process that they

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had to go through. And I think what I

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want to lead into next is how we want to

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do that because in Grand Junction it was

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20 years before they did anything. And I

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don't think we want to wait 20 years.

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And I think there are some things that

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we can implement immediately like trails

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and maybe waysides and we can ask the

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department of energy and I'm pretty mel

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and I talked about this. I really feel

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strongly that we should be asking the

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department of energy to do things to

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that site why they have the capability

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to do them that we can immediately to

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have access to. And so, um, I think I

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think we need to start working towards

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how we are going to implement some of

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these things, um, so that once the

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county gets the site, we can actually

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start moving forward with what we want

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to accomplish there.

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>> Now, the reason I brought up legacy

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management is I would imagine that we

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would want to start with where our

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priorities align,

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>> right? Legacy management as far as

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infrastructure goes and things like that

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right now. And so while we're in this

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process of deciding which assets are

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valuable, um I think their their input

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would be invaluable because I mean

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they're going to water

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it as they move on forward.

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» No, that's okay. Brian, you have the

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floor.

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>> Yeah. Yeah. Just I just want to make

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sure that our priorities are aligning

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legacy and what their needs are going to

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be so that we can just make sure that

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we're we're moving forward.

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>> Yes, I agree. and and shock his his hand

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up next. Mary,

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>> uh, what what's the process for putting

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together the 2027 2022 future sites

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committee?

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>> Saxon, I'm going to turn that over to

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you because you've been involved in the process to to put the to put the

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other

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>> on this.

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>> Yeah. I mean, basically it's going to be

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the same as what we've done before,

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right?

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>> Yeah. I I expect it'll be the same. Um,

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Russ is not available for this meeting,

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but he's the chair, so maybe I can

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advocate to him a little bit, but I

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expect it would be inviting everyone

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back. uh that was on it previously. I

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know maybe some of the pe agency people

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yeah may not um may not be available but

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just asking who's there who would like

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to be part of it and then just making

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sure that all the agencies and both city

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and county probably Castle Valley and um

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Thompson

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be involved with the Crescent Junction.

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>> Yeah, Crescent Junction also that they

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have a they have a voice.

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>> Yeah. try, you know, do our do our best

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to make sure that the citizens of Grand

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County, you know, have the opportunity

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to express what they want and what what

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they, you know, look looking forward to.

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Oh, and and legacy management,

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what they will do is they just monitor.

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They don't really do anything on the

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site as far as, you know, they don't

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even have an office on the site at Los

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Colonius. They uh they they monitor the

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water. they monitor make sure the uh uh

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stuff that comes in and goes out and uh

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that more than like you know they

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they're not like live working working

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there like the the uh department of

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environmental management. It's a little

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different.

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>> However, it's very important for us to

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develop a relationship with them just

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like we do with environmental

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management.

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>> So, and our Sarah's still there.

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>> Any other comments or questions?

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How did the rail lines fit into this the site futures and and all the work

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that that DOE went into improving them?

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>> Well, you know, we've had conversations

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with Union Pacific, [clears throat] as

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you heard at the Umpra celebration,

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Grace Npalitaniano would always put me

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in touch with them because what we would

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like to see is the Canyon Spirit,

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formerly the Rocky Mountain, be able to

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bring their passengers right into town.

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And so I think that's an important

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conversation for us to always keep in

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the back of our mind is how we can use

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that rail service to benefit our

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community. And I that's you know I've

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talked to Indian Pacific about it. It's

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something that's real doable.

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>> But we can't do anything until the DOE's

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off the site.

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>> Absolutely. Okay. Thank you.

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>> Anybody else?

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Okay. Thank you guys. Great refresher.

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Um, next up we have a and I'm going to

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let Michael talk a little bit more about

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this. Um, it's a memorandum of

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understanding between Grand County and

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Moab city's Atlas Park perspective

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planning efforts and we've got about 10

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minutes left in this discussion. Um, but

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we did pass a memorandum of

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understanding with the city and the

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county as to how we wanted to not take

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20 years to start working on what we

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wanted to see at that site. And at the

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time there was some grant money

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available. We had about $2 million five

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500 to$2 million available that we could

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use to start planning. This is through

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the DOE's

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funding mechanism. There was a acronym

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for it like there is for everything

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federal. But um we so we got together

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and started talking about how we could

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get that grant money. And one of the

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things we came up with was maybe we

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should start developing sort of like a

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master plan that Mel and I are going to

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talk about we're doing with maps later

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on in the agenda for that site so that

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you know we just all had a clear picture

540
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and that might be appropriate for us to

541
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,600
do after our next 27 visioning session

542
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:15,280
because there might be some additions or

543
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:18,480
changes so that it's really clear you

544
00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:20,960
know and Mary suggested something 3D so

545
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:24,240
that we can actually see what that that

546
00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:25,919
property is going to look like once we

547
00:23:25,919 --> 00:23:27,760
fully implement everything we want to

548
00:23:27,760 --> 00:23:29,919
implement. And so the city at the time

549
00:23:29,919 --> 00:23:31,840
budgeted for a staff person because

550
00:23:31,840 --> 00:23:34,240
honestly you guys, as much as we like to

551
00:23:34,240 --> 00:23:36,320
work together, I don't know that we

552
00:23:36,320 --> 00:23:39,120
could actually take on this big of a

553
00:23:39,120 --> 00:23:41,520
project as a commit in a committee

554
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,080
setting. So we were proposing that we

555
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:45,280
and we don't have it in the budget

556
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,480
anymore because for various reasons that

557
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:50,799
whole process kind of fell apart. But

558
00:23:50,799 --> 00:23:52,640
it's something I'd like to hear from you

559
00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:54,880
if you think hiring a person that's

560
00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:56,400
probably shared between the city and the

561
00:23:56,400 --> 00:23:58,880
county or how that would look um you

562
00:23:58,880 --> 00:24:00,960
know the staff the admin staff at the

563
00:24:00,960 --> 00:24:03,120
county and the city can talk about that

564
00:24:03,120 --> 00:24:05,200
so that we have somebody that we're

565
00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:06,720
working with that that's their sole

566
00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:09,200
responsibility is looking at the site

567
00:24:09,200 --> 00:24:11,360
finding funding mechanisms so we can do

568
00:24:11,360 --> 00:24:13,600
the things we want to do there and that

569
00:24:13,600 --> 00:24:15,520
kind of thing. So, I'd like to open that

570
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:16,880
up for a little bit of a discussion and

571
00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,080
Michael, I don't know if you have

572
00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:19,600
anything you want to add since you that

573
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,320
was your you you developed that.

574
00:24:22,320 --> 00:24:23,760
>> I'll just add a couple things really

575
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:25,520
quick, but the mayor gave a pretty good

576
00:24:25,520 --> 00:24:28,480
synopsis of what that was and it's true

577
00:24:28,480 --> 00:24:30,640
we do need to start with a concept and

578
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,159
the idea was that we were going to go

579
00:24:32,159 --> 00:24:35,200
from concept to shovel ready. Uh so this

580
00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,360
would be after the next concept comes

581
00:24:37,360 --> 00:24:40,480
about and it was a grant from DOE that

582
00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,080
was specifically targeted to under um

583
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:46,000
privileged communities and those

584
00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:47,679
underprivileged communities were those

585
00:24:47,679 --> 00:24:52,080
who were affected by energy mining for

586
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:53,919
uranium and things like that for a

587
00:24:53,919 --> 00:24:56,400
number of years and I believe we got a

588
00:24:56,400 --> 00:24:57,840
pretty good response from them. They

589
00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,840
just said maybe not right now. You're

590
00:24:59,840 --> 00:25:01,440
just a little too far away from the

591
00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:03,840
close of the the project. I think

592
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:05,039
ownership was part of the

593
00:25:05,039 --> 00:25:07,520
>> Yeah, ownership was as well. Yeah. But

594
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,679
we were looking from around$1.2 to$2

595
00:25:09,679 --> 00:25:12,240
million. It definitely was a joint

596
00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:14,720
effort and it would basically be

597
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,559
feasibility analysis for the concept

598
00:25:16,559 --> 00:25:18,720
that had already been developed, civil

599
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:21,200
site planning, public engagement and a

600
00:25:21,200 --> 00:25:23,200
final plan that would go out to bid at

601
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,159
the end um that to hopefully construct

602
00:25:26,159 --> 00:25:28,000
the project if the funds were available

603
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:30,080
to do that.

604
00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:34,470
>> Thoughts?

605
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:38,480
I believe I spoke to uh more you I think

606
00:25:38,480 --> 00:25:40,480
I saw you speaking to him as well at the

607
00:25:40,480 --> 00:25:43,120
celebration and I think they're hoping

608
00:25:43,120 --> 00:25:45,919
that bill to transfer it over to Grand

609
00:25:45,919 --> 00:25:47,760
County is going to be moving pretty

610
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:52,640
quickly but you know how quick

611
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,520
DC but I know that until we have that

612
00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,840
land it's really hard to get people to

613
00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,400
give us money to develop until we have

614
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,000
the deers

615
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:03,440
Yes, Mel.

616
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,120
>> Yeah, I think that this is definitely

617
00:26:05,120 --> 00:26:06,880
something we want to revisit and I went

618
00:26:06,880 --> 00:26:08,880
over thisou because it was there before

619
00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:10,480
right before I became a commissioner,

620
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:12,480
but I I think the idea behind it's good,

621
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,960
but we're definitely going to revisit it

622
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:16,480
and reook at it and

623
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:19,200
>> yeah, if there's grant funding out

624
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:20,720
there, we want to take advantage of

625
00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:23,360
those opportunities and

626
00:26:23,360 --> 00:26:25,039
>> and once it gets transferred over to the

627
00:26:25,039 --> 00:26:26,640
county, then I think it's a perfect time

628
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,159
to

629
00:26:28,159 --> 00:26:29,919
make to do ourou.

630
00:26:29,919 --> 00:26:31,520
>> Yeah. Well, yeah. I think absolutely

631
00:26:31,520 --> 00:26:33,760
100% because that was that was, you

632
00:26:33,760 --> 00:26:35,600
know, kind of driven by this grant and

633
00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:37,279
something that we had to do. But, you

634
00:26:37,279 --> 00:26:39,279
know, mayor, I don't if I think if we've

635
00:26:39,279 --> 00:26:42,320
got legislation in Congress, I mean, I I

636
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:44,000
think because we didn't at the time that

637
00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:45,760
we did this, we, you know, we didn't

638
00:26:45,760 --> 00:26:47,840
really know what was going to happen,

639
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,960
uh, we may be able to start, um, getting

640
00:26:50,960 --> 00:26:54,159
some funding, uh, without having, uh,

641
00:26:54,159 --> 00:26:56,320
the actual land transferred, especially

642
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:59,440
if we know that it's, you know, going to

643
00:26:59,440 --> 00:27:02,000
happen. I don't know if anybody has any

644
00:27:02,000 --> 00:27:04,640
other thoughts on that, but

645
00:27:04,640 --> 00:27:06,559
>> anybody else?

646
00:27:06,559 --> 00:27:07,840
I guess I'm wondering as we're

647
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,279
considering this then with theou it

648
00:27:11,279 --> 00:27:13,520
would be joint I I I'm thinking with the

649
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:15,520
land transfer over the county county

650
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,520
then a lot more of the responsibility of

651
00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:20,559
grant application that position a lot of

652
00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:22,799
that would also go over to the county

653
00:27:22,799 --> 00:27:24,640
whether that's rolling over the umptra

654
00:27:24,640 --> 00:27:28,159
leaison position into that site futures

655
00:27:28,159 --> 00:27:30,960
or what but um I guess that that is kind

656
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:34,000
of a question of um

657
00:27:34,000 --> 00:27:37,200
is the is the county taking on more of

658
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:39,440
that role if we're going to come back to

659
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:41,760
that grant application.

660
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:43,919
>> Well, I think that's to be determined to

661
00:27:43,919 --> 00:27:46,080
be honest with you. I think the idea is

662
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:48,159
we would love as the city of Moab to

663
00:27:48,159 --> 00:27:49,679
partner and I think we've all agreed

664
00:27:49,679 --> 00:27:51,039
that that's something that we should do

665
00:27:51,039 --> 00:27:53,840
as we develop that site. Um, but who

666
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:55,760
actually is control of moving it

667
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,000
forward? You know, I think we would also

668
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:00,399
like to be a part of that. Um, so I

669
00:28:00,399 --> 00:28:01,919
think it's to be determined at this

670
00:28:01,919 --> 00:28:04,799
point.

671
00:28:04,799 --> 00:28:06,960
Bill, do you have anything to add?

672
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:10,640
>> No. Um, all I've heard about the bill is

673
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:12,960
that it's waiting to be moved on to the

674
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,240
House floor

675
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,480
>> and I I don't know what the process is

676
00:28:16,480 --> 00:28:17,919
to get it there, but that's where it's

677
00:28:17,919 --> 00:28:20,320
at. It came out of committee and um,

678
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:20,720
>> right,

679
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:23,360
>> Senator Lee was part of that committee.

680
00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:25,120
It was one of his committees. So, it's

681
00:28:25,120 --> 00:28:26,880
out of committee waiting to get a place

682
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:27,919
on the board.

683
00:28:27,919 --> 00:28:30,080
>> And my guess it's going to be um folded

684
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:32,080
into other legislation. I doubt it will

685
00:28:32,080 --> 00:28:35,600
be a standalone bill. Anybody else that

686
00:28:35,600 --> 00:28:37,600
has comments about the feature site and

687
00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,720
the process moving forward? Yes, Brian.

688
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,480
>> Yeah, just two things. One is I'd like

689
00:28:42,480 --> 00:28:43,600
to just make sure that we're also

690
00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:46,320
considering the pipeline. Um, we got

691
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:46,720
that.

692
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:47,200
>> Yes,

693
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,120
>> we got that added into the legislation

694
00:28:49,120 --> 00:28:51,200
before it went through committee. So,

695
00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,520
that's that's a resource I think um

696
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:54,960
that's going to be coming towards Grand

697
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:56,799
County. And then the second, but I just

698
00:28:56,799 --> 00:28:59,039
like um at least as we kind of move into

699
00:28:59,039 --> 00:29:01,760
it, my think we we view this as an

700
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,000
asset. Um but I don't think that it's an

701
00:29:04,000 --> 00:29:05,600
asset yet. I think that we all need to

702
00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:07,039
understand what we're actually taking on

703
00:29:07,039 --> 00:29:08,000
as a liability.

704
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:08,559
>> Yes.

705
00:29:08,559 --> 00:29:10,399
>> And we're going to have to figure out

706
00:29:10,399 --> 00:29:11,760
how we're going to divvy up that

707
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:14,000
liability moving on in the future until

708
00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,000
it does become

709
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,600
>> Brian, that is a really really good

710
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:19,600
point because I think we all get pie in

711
00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:21,919
the sky and think, "Oh, look at this.

712
00:29:21,919 --> 00:29:24,080
We've got this 500 acres of land, but it

713
00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:26,240
is going to be a liability and there is

714
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:27,760
going to be a lot that's going to have

715
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:30,000
to be taken care of that we don't even

716
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:32,240
think about like all the tumble weeds

717
00:29:32,240 --> 00:29:33,919
that are going to be growing out there.

718
00:29:33,919 --> 00:29:37,279
Anyway, so glad you brought that up.

719
00:29:37,279 --> 00:29:38,640
Anything else?

720
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,320
>> I'm wondering, can you can you clarify

721
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:41,919
the the pipeline addition?

722
00:29:41,919 --> 00:29:42,960
>> Oh, yeah.

723
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,960
>> Yeah. So, the uh um there's a pipeline

724
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:48,640
goes from the Green River out to

725
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:52,159
Crescent Junction and they use that to

726
00:29:52,159 --> 00:29:54,000
um you know as they move the tailings

727
00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,760
over there to water it down and tamp it

728
00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,720
on down. Um on the completion of the

729
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,799
project um the state of Utah pass1

730
00:30:02,799 --> 00:30:04,080
I believe

731
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:04,960
>> 001

732
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:06,880
>> 0014

733
00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,480
>> recommendated that this DOE transfer

734
00:30:10,480 --> 00:30:13,279
that pipeline over to Grand County Water

735
00:30:13,279 --> 00:30:16,640
Conservancy District. So um that will be

736
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,880
the possibility of water for Crescent

737
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:20,960
Junction and hopefully for Thompson.

738
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,640
Those are the those are the purposes of

739
00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,880
having that water transfer over or that

740
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:27,200
construction. Um once again talking

741
00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:30,559
about liabilities. Um it is in the uh

742
00:30:30,559 --> 00:30:32,480
the DO's best interest. They are going

743
00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:35,600
to be water moving forward on that site.

744
00:30:35,600 --> 00:30:38,080
Um this would basically relieve that of

745
00:30:38,080 --> 00:30:40,480
the liability of having to maintain that

746
00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:43,120
pipeline all the way through. So R

747
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:44,720
County, not only do we you know, get

748
00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:46,320
access to that, but we'll also get the

749
00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,080
other

750
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:49,360
pipeline that goes all the way from

751
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,360
Green River up to Crust Junction.

752
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,760
>> But that's a huge asset out there.

753
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,840
>> Huge asset to to those two communities

754
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:56,320
out.

755
00:30:56,320 --> 00:30:58,720
>> Yep. And to that intersection.

756
00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:01,840
>> Um um anything else? We're kind of like

757
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:04,000
done, you know, over our time with this

758
00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,080
one, but I do one thing that Mel brought

759
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:08,640
up about the future site process for

760
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,200
next year in 27 which I really like and

761
00:31:11,200 --> 00:31:13,120
I think it's something when we move

762
00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,480
forward with this that we should think

763
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:18,960
about is looking at stages of how we can

764
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,360
develop that site like what can we do

765
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:24,240
immediately what can we do you know four

766
00:31:24,240 --> 00:31:26,799
or five years and what can we do in 10

767
00:31:26,799 --> 00:31:29,200
or 20 and so I think that's something

768
00:31:29,200 --> 00:31:31,120
that when we do start that process Let's

769
00:31:31,120 --> 00:31:33,600
not forget to kind of to to look at kind

770
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,919
of the tiered approach to how we

771
00:31:35,919 --> 00:31:37,840
envision what we want to have out there,

772
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,000
what we can get done now, why we've got

773
00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,320
the DOE there with the money to do it,

774
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,559
and what we can do in the interim and

775
00:31:44,559 --> 00:31:46,960
then, you know, 10 years out. So,

776
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:49,200
something I'd like us to consider. Um,

777
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:50,720
and then the last thing, you know, I

778
00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:51,919
don't know that there's a whole lot to

779
00:31:51,919 --> 00:31:54,000
talk about here. I did include in your

780
00:31:54,000 --> 00:31:55,760
packet the infrastructure list. I think

781
00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:57,279
Bill, you didn't have a chance to see

782
00:31:57,279 --> 00:32:02,640
that. Um, and and then this big group is it's you

783
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,640
know we can't decide what we want to

784
00:32:04,640 --> 00:32:06,799
keep and what we want to do not keep.

785
00:32:06,799 --> 00:32:08,240
And it really comes down to Grant

786
00:32:08,240 --> 00:32:10,320
County. It's going to be your property,

787
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,320
what liabilities you want, what

788
00:32:12,320 --> 00:32:13,919
liabilities you don't. Mel and I were

789
00:32:13,919 --> 00:32:15,519
talking about it yesterday. We have two

790
00:32:15,519 --> 00:32:17,200
different, you know, if it was me and I

791
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,120
got that property, I would want it clean

792
00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,039
with nothing on it. She has different

793
00:32:21,039 --> 00:32:22,640
ideas which I think are really

794
00:32:22,640 --> 00:32:26,000
appropriate. Um and and I think what you

795
00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:28,159
offered was to develop a smaller group.

796
00:32:28,159 --> 00:32:29,440
Do you want to talk about that?

797
00:32:29,440 --> 00:32:29,679
Yeah.

798
00:32:29,679 --> 00:32:31,120
>> Yeah. So, we've had a couple meetings

799
00:32:31,120 --> 00:32:35,679
with the DOE and the Entra site

800
00:32:35,679 --> 00:32:38,559
heads out there the last few u months

801
00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:40,159
and I think it's been a large group.

802
00:32:40,159 --> 00:32:41,360
We've had people from the county, the

803
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:44,000
city, the site futures, and the steering

804
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:45,519
committee. And I think we'll have a

805
00:32:45,519 --> 00:32:47,519
little bit smaller group that will get

806
00:32:47,519 --> 00:32:49,760
together and really hone in on those

807
00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:51,760
ideas, bring it before the commission so

808
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:54,240
that the commission can approve that.

809
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:56,640
And then on J by June 1st, we'll have

810
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,440
that list that goes to the DOE. And I

811
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:01,279
think including on that list is kind of

812
00:33:01,279 --> 00:33:04,320
some of those dirt projects even. I

813
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:05,200
mean, I know we're talking about

814
00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,159
infrastructure, which is majority the

815
00:33:08,159 --> 00:33:11,039
electrical and the sewer and the water

816
00:33:11,039 --> 00:33:12,559
and all of the other infrastructure that

817
00:33:12,559 --> 00:33:14,240
you saw, but I think we can add those

818
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,559
that list. They said add it all. Add

819
00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:19,120
it's our it's our wish list. So, as we

820
00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:20,640
but we don't want to take on too much

821
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,159
liability because we already are taking

822
00:33:22,159 --> 00:33:24,399
on a huge liability. So there'll be a

823
00:33:24,399 --> 00:33:26,240
small group of people that are from that

824
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:28,000
group, representatives. So Mary, I think

825
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:29,760
it's be Mary, Bill, and I from the

826
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,679
commission and the steering committee

827
00:33:31,679 --> 00:33:34,080
and Saxon and pick a couple other people

828
00:33:34,080 --> 00:33:36,559
and we'll um from that group and just

829
00:33:36,559 --> 00:33:38,559
hone in exactly what we want, put it on

830
00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:40,240
a commission meeting so that everyone's

831
00:33:40,240 --> 00:33:42,480
aware of what we're taking to the

832
00:33:42,480 --> 00:33:44,159
Department of Energy.

833
00:33:44,159 --> 00:33:45,679
>> Sounds great.

834
00:33:45,679 --> 00:33:49,840
>> Thank you. So this was our first item of

835
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:51,279
something that we could be working on

836
00:33:51,279 --> 00:33:53,600
together. I know we're looking at 29 for

837
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,679
closure when we finally get it, but I

838
00:33:55,679 --> 00:33:57,519
think the point of this is that we start

839
00:33:57,519 --> 00:34:00,480
working together now so that when we get

840
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,960
to 29, we have something that we can

841
00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:06,240
actually use. Everybody agree with that?

842
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,240
>> Yes. Great. Good. All right, moving on.

843
00:34:10,240 --> 00:34:12,720
Main Street sidewalk in installation.

844
00:34:12,720 --> 00:34:14,240
Now, this is something hopefully we can

845
00:34:14,240 --> 00:34:17,200
get done sooner rather than later. Um,

846
00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:18,960
as you all know, we've got a new liquor

847
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:22,159
store in town and there's no place for

848
00:34:22,159 --> 00:34:23,919
people to walk except on the road from

849
00:34:23,919 --> 00:34:26,000
the liquor store downtown to town and

850
00:34:26,000 --> 00:34:28,720
UDOT came to us when when they first,

851
00:34:28,720 --> 00:34:31,200
you know, started in on that project and

852
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,280
said, you know, you could you guys do a

853
00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:34,639
sidewalk? Would you be interested in

854
00:34:34,639 --> 00:34:36,639
doing a sidewalk? And so I believe

855
00:34:36,639 --> 00:34:39,599
Michael and Quinn, you guys are on this

856
00:34:39,599 --> 00:34:41,200
agenda item to kind of talk to where

857
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,000
we're at and uh kind of what the costs

858
00:34:44,000 --> 00:34:46,240
and and how we can share this this

859
00:34:46,240 --> 00:34:48,800
project. Um so

860
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,879
>> so I'll do a quick overview. We're going

861
00:34:50,879 --> 00:34:52,960
to ask you do to come up. Dan Hinckley

862
00:34:52,960 --> 00:34:54,800
here is here from UD do and then we've

863
00:34:54,800 --> 00:34:57,200
also got the county engineer who's who's

864
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,359
coming up as well. So, just as an

865
00:34:59,359 --> 00:35:03,680
overview really quick, um this is

866
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,240
the the stuff in red here is the city of

867
00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:08,800
Moab. The property we're talking about,

868
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:10,560
uh we'll go over in just a second, but

869
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,440
this is the the South Maverick here, the

870
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:14,880
new liquor store still under

871
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:17,119
construction here. And then we've got

872
00:35:17,119 --> 00:35:19,200
the dollar store and the the tire store

873
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:23,920
here. Um the uh let's get Sorry, my

874
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,880
computer.

875
00:35:26,880 --> 00:35:28,800
So, I'll show you the sidewalk. So, this

876
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,640
is where we have sidewalk right now in

877
00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:32,880
the black dashed line. And then this is

878
00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:35,760
where we're looking at sidewalk. The uh

879
00:35:35,760 --> 00:35:39,359
sidewalk is about 675 ft in linear

880
00:35:39,359 --> 00:35:42,240
distance, but it's about six feet wide.

881
00:35:42,240 --> 00:35:43,920
And that's what we have on both ends

882
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:46,480
right now is a six foot wide sidewalk.

883
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:48,800
Um we're looking at a total cost for the

884
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,520
sidewalk of around $75,000.

885
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,800
uh depending on your uh drainage issues

886
00:35:54,800 --> 00:35:56,960
and elevation and fill and things like

887
00:35:56,960 --> 00:35:58,880
that, it could could be a little bit

888
00:35:58,880 --> 00:36:00,320
different, but that's our internal

889
00:36:00,320 --> 00:36:01,920
estimates of what we think the cost

890
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:06,640
would be. Uh the um this is going to be

891
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,240
a joint project, which I'll talk about

892
00:36:08,240 --> 00:36:10,480
in just a second. Us here, they can talk

893
00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,079
about the curb and gutter cost and the

894
00:36:12,079 --> 00:36:14,480
drainage, but uh they did say that they

895
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,079
thought this was a good project and they

896
00:36:16,079 --> 00:36:18,960
want to participate. And then I'll also

897
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,079
uh Grand County has talked about a

898
00:36:22,079 --> 00:36:23,839
several different options for

899
00:36:23,839 --> 00:36:25,359
participating. We don't know which one

900
00:36:25,359 --> 00:36:27,280
is going to be yet, but there's a they

901
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:28,640
have another project that they could

902
00:36:28,640 --> 00:36:30,240
make it part of or it could be a

903
00:36:30,240 --> 00:36:32,640
standalone project. And then the last

904
00:36:32,640 --> 00:36:34,240
thing here, this is just a couple of

905
00:36:34,240 --> 00:36:36,640
pictures from the north and south. And

906
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,720
then in the middle, all the sidewalk

907
00:36:38,720 --> 00:36:40,240
we're looking at would be on UDOT

908
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:42,560
rightway. We think all the sidewalk

909
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,160
would certainly, but I think through

910
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:45,520
engineering there might be some

911
00:36:45,520 --> 00:36:47,359
discoveries with drainage that we may

912
00:36:47,359 --> 00:36:49,520
need to talk about. Um, there's no

913
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,200
effect to private property as far as we

914
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:53,520
know right now. The city, county, and

915
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:55,119
UDOT would be working together on this

916
00:36:55,119 --> 00:36:57,119
and as the mayor pointed out, this fills

917
00:36:57,119 --> 00:36:59,920
in a a really big gap in the community

918
00:36:59,920 --> 00:37:02,560
and and uh it's a pretty important

919
00:37:02,560 --> 00:37:06,560
project for the community. So, Dan, did

920
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,400
you want to

921
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:10,079
>> Yes, absolutely. [clears throat] Thank

922
00:37:10,079 --> 00:37:11,680
you, Mayor. and chair. It's wonderful to

923
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:13,680
be with you today. Councilman,

924
00:37:13,680 --> 00:37:15,280
commissioners. I'm Dan Hinkley. I'm the

925
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:17,680
district engineer for UD do located in

926
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:20,400
Price. I oversee all the maintenance and

927
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:21,839
construction activities in southeast

928
00:37:21,839 --> 00:37:25,200
Utah. So, our initial estimate, just a

929
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:27,920
very quick estimate, uh with this about

930
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,839
675 ft of curbon gutter, uh UDOT would

931
00:37:31,839 --> 00:37:34,079
be covering the cost of that curbon

932
00:37:34,079 --> 00:37:36,880
gutter, the asphalt tie-in, and any

933
00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:38,720
needed drainage improvements in that

934
00:37:38,720 --> 00:37:40,880
area. And we estimate that's probably

935
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:45,119
going to run 60 to $65,000 and it could

936
00:37:45,119 --> 00:37:47,599
be more depending on how bids come back

937
00:37:47,599 --> 00:37:51,040
and the way that in which it's uh leted

938
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:52,560
I guess or or the way in which the

939
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,720
contractor looks at that. And so we

940
00:37:54,720 --> 00:37:56,160
would be working directly with that and

941
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:58,320
we would our proposal would be to create

942
00:37:58,320 --> 00:38:00,320
an agreement with the local governments

943
00:38:00,320 --> 00:38:03,520
to be able to pass through that funding

944
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:06,079
so that once that's buil uh built we

945
00:38:06,079 --> 00:38:07,839
would receive an invoice then pay that

946
00:38:07,839 --> 00:38:10,240
invoice. So we would actually be doing

947
00:38:10,240 --> 00:38:12,320
the curb and the gutter and you would

948
00:38:12,320 --> 00:38:13,599
reimburse us for it.

949
00:38:13,599 --> 00:38:14,240
>> Yes. That's

950
00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:16,320
>> that that's pretty typical. We can we

951
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:17,440
can definitely deal with something like

952
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:19,119
that. They they usually pay their bills

953
00:38:19,119 --> 00:38:21,760
so [laughter] they're pretty good.

954
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:23,280
>> If not, you know who to call.

955
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:26,000
>> Yeah.

956
00:38:26,000 --> 00:38:27,680
The count's portion of this would

957
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,480
be the uh design which Horox is willing

958
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,040
to do to to put together a design enough

959
00:38:33,040 --> 00:38:35,280
for an estimate to create that agreement

960
00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,480
with UD do as well as add that change

961
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,640
order under the pending contract with

962
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,640
Silver Spring construction for the

963
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,520
Jackson Street phase 2 storm drain

964
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:47,599
project that we're about ready to

965
00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:50,560
>> right I think from our perspective from

966
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,000
the city's perspective we just want to

967
00:38:52,000 --> 00:38:54,400
see it move forward if Jackson Street is

968
00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:56,079
moving forward that's great let's let's

969
00:38:56,079 --> 00:38:58,560
just do it but if it's if it's going to

970
00:38:58,560 --> 00:39:00,400
be delayed uh we might want to look at

971
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:04,240
doing this as a separate project

972
00:39:04,240 --> 00:39:06,720
>> yeah I'll say we've got quite a few

973
00:39:06,720 --> 00:39:08,560
different options available to us with

974
00:39:08,560 --> 00:39:09,760
the Jackson Street drainage and we've

975
00:39:09,760 --> 00:39:12,240
had some discussions at the county about

976
00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:16,640
the overall cost. Obviously, that's a huge component of this for the

977
00:39:16,640 --> 00:39:18,880
Jackson Street project and we've also

978
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:20,240
got a few other projects in the works

979
00:39:20,240 --> 00:39:23,040
and we the commissioners have the option

980
00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:24,320
to shift some of that funding around and

981
00:39:24,320 --> 00:39:25,920
so we'll we'll hit them up and see where

982
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,400
they want to go with this but if if this

983
00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:30,240
is the the direction they choose to go,

984
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:33,680
we're happy to make it happen.

985
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,680
>> Any idea what a timeline would be? I

986
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:37,599
kind of feel a little urgent about this

987
00:39:37,599 --> 00:39:39,200
just because of all the people walking

988
00:39:39,200 --> 00:39:40,160
down the road.

989
00:39:40,160 --> 00:39:43,359
>> I think we'll have a decision on our end

990
00:39:43,359 --> 00:39:45,200
as far as whether we move forward on the

991
00:39:45,200 --> 00:39:47,040
full Jackson Street project or a

992
00:39:47,040 --> 00:39:49,520
modified version of it within the next

993
00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:52,320
maybe not the next not not Tuesday but

994
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,800
next week within four weeks. So if you

995
00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,040
have to modify would that like

996
00:39:57,040 --> 00:39:58,640
>> if we have to modify that will

997
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:00,160
definitely change the scope of the

998
00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:01,920
engineering and that would probably take

999
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:03,920
another

1000
00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:05,920
>> Sean how many weeks probably another

1001
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:07,200
three weeks to modify

1002
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:10,240
>> it's a week for design the agreement but

1003
00:40:10,240 --> 00:40:12,160
yeah I think that would go on the May

1004
00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:19,270
5th commission agend for that decision.

1005
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,560
So I I think we should be shooting for

1006
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,680
going out to bid somewhere late June or

1007
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,560
early July. I think it sound might sound

1008
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:31,440
like a a little whiles a while away to

1009
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,839
some people because it's we want to get

1010
00:40:33,839 --> 00:40:37,040
on this right away, but I think that makes the most sense and if we can

1011
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,440
keep moving towards that that'll line up

1012
00:40:39,440 --> 00:40:41,599
with our budget. Although if it happens

1013
00:40:41,599 --> 00:40:44,000
sooner we could figure it out. Uh but I

1014
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:45,599
think that's the most realistic thing

1015
00:40:45,599 --> 00:40:48,640
and what we should shoot for.

1016
00:40:48,640 --> 00:40:50,880
Great. Um, well, the liquor store just

1017
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,000
opened, so if we can get the sidewalk in

1018
00:40:54,000 --> 00:40:57,440
this year, I think that's a success. Any

1019
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,000
comments or questions from anybody? Yes,

1020
00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:01,280
Bill.

1021
00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,000
>> Um, my question would be, so the the

1022
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:05,599
county would be on the hook for the

1023
00:41:05,599 --> 00:41:07,839
design portion only of this, just for

1024
00:41:07,839 --> 00:41:09,119
clarification.

1025
00:41:09,119 --> 00:41:11,599
>> That's where we are right now. I my

1026
00:41:11,599 --> 00:41:13,920
proposal to the council will be that I I

1027
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:15,839
feel like that's that's a pretty good

1028
00:41:15,839 --> 00:41:17,839
trade since it is in the city. the

1029
00:41:17,839 --> 00:41:20,720
rightaway of the of the road is in the

1030
00:41:20,720 --> 00:41:23,760
city. The property it's adjacent to is

1031
00:41:23,760 --> 00:41:29,359
not in the city, it's county. Um, but if you guys could cover the design and

1032
00:41:29,359 --> 00:41:34,240
the project management as well, uh, then I think we could cover the cost of

1033
00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:36,400
the sidewalk knowing that the counties

1034
00:41:36,400 --> 00:41:38,000
or that UD do's going to cover the cost

1035
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:41,599
of the curb and gutter and tie in.

1036
00:41:41,599 --> 00:41:43,359
>> Or she could give us money if you wanted

1037
00:41:43,359 --> 00:41:46,160
to. We'd be happy.

1038
00:41:46,160 --> 00:41:47,520
Anything else, Bill?

1039
00:41:47,520 --> 00:41:49,440
>> No, that's all I had. Thank you.

1040
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,920
>> Anybody else?

1041
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,400
All right. Well, keep us posted. Quinn,

1042
00:41:54,400 --> 00:41:55,839
I'm sure you'll keep the commission

1043
00:41:55,839 --> 00:41:59,760
posted and you and Mark and um you do

1044
00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:02,640
and Michael, we'll get this moving

1045
00:42:02,640 --> 00:42:03,839
forward.

1046
00:42:03,839 --> 00:42:05,760
>> Great.

1047
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:06,560
>> Thanks.

1048
00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:13,270
>> Thank you.

1049
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:15,200
» All right, we're back on time.

1050
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:16,000
All right,

1051
00:42:16,000 --> 00:42:17,599
>> good job you guys. [clears throat] All

1052
00:42:17,599 --> 00:42:21,680
right, so the next um the next piece is

1053
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,400
economic development. And we all know

1054
00:42:24,400 --> 00:42:28,000
that county city our economic um goals

1055
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:30,319
are pretty much similar and our main

1056
00:42:30,319 --> 00:42:33,440
economic driver of course is tourism and

1057
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:37,359
for the city um downtown is a really

1058
00:42:37,359 --> 00:42:39,359
important thing and we'll get to that.

1059
00:42:39,359 --> 00:42:41,440
But you know, Mel and I have been

1060
00:42:41,440 --> 00:42:43,839
working on I have been working on this

1061
00:42:43,839 --> 00:42:46,480
project for a long long time. And with

1062
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,760
the help of Michael and Melissa, we are

1063
00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,000
moving forward with the final phase of

1064
00:42:52,000 --> 00:42:54,400
the Moab art area partnership for

1065
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:57,680
seniors campus. And we believe that this

1066
00:42:57,680 --> 00:42:59,760
is a big economic driver for our

1067
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,880
community. Also, it's not only um helped

1068
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,960
support our senior population, which by

1069
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,920
the way, fifth of our population is 55

1070
00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:09,599
years and older, and we'll talk a little

1071
00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:11,359
bit about that, but we just wanted to

1072
00:43:11,359 --> 00:43:14,560
give you an update on the maps project

1073
00:43:14,560 --> 00:43:16,240
because we believe it could also be

1074
00:43:16,240 --> 00:43:18,720
enticing retirees to come to our

1075
00:43:18,720 --> 00:43:21,359
community and that there's a really nice

1076
00:43:21,359 --> 00:43:23,760
economic component to this that we kind

1077
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:26,160
of don't think about that often. And so

1078
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:27,680
Mel and I kind of wanted to bring this

1079
00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:30,400
to the forefront of the the county uh

1080
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:32,720
the commission and the council so that

1081
00:43:32,720 --> 00:43:34,960
we can start thinking about our senior

1082
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,319
population, 20% of our population and

1083
00:43:38,319 --> 00:43:41,599
how we as two bodies can help support us

1084
00:43:41,599 --> 00:43:44,640
as we get older. So and people that are

1085
00:43:44,640 --> 00:43:46,400
currently here. So would you mind

1086
00:43:46,400 --> 00:43:47,520
pulling up the

1087
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:49,520
>> Sure.

1088
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:51,119
You want to just say the color view map

1089
00:43:51,119 --> 00:43:51,440
or

1090
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:55,109
>> Yeah.

1091
00:43:55,119 --> 00:43:56,880
So recently, the Healthcare Special

1092
00:43:56,880 --> 00:43:59,599
Service District, who owns the property,

1093
00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:01,760
has is going to be putting out an RFP

1094
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:06,640
next week to a variety of planners that

1095
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:08,000
um it's called,

1096
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:08,960
>> okay?

1097
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:12,000
>> Um of the for the completion of this

1098
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:13,359
project. And as you can see on your

1099
00:44:13,359 --> 00:44:16,079
screens, that's the site. That is the

1100
00:44:16,079 --> 00:44:19,440
Moab campus right there. What you see in

1101
00:44:19,440 --> 00:44:22,240
green green hash is the property that we

1102
00:44:22,240 --> 00:44:25,119
own. That's about 8 acres. And so our

1103
00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:27,599
goal there and Melissa, I I wouldn't

1104
00:44:27,599 --> 00:44:28,880
mind if you could come up in case

1105
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,440
there's any questions. I mean, I won't I

1106
00:44:31,440 --> 00:44:32,960
know

1107
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,960
um you're you're up for the the next

1108
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,119
three. So the next two also, so it'd be

1109
00:44:37,119 --> 00:44:38,400
great to have you here if there's some

1110
00:44:38,400 --> 00:44:40,960
questions. Um so that green portion is

1111
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:43,920
what's left. It's eight acres and some

1112
00:44:43,920 --> 00:44:45,920
of it's commercial, some of it is

1113
00:44:45,920 --> 00:44:46,960
residential. You're

1114
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,640
>> going to bring it up on a larger

1115
00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:52,880
>> Okay. So be able to see it better.

1116
00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:54,720
And so what we want to what we want to

1117
00:44:54,720 --> 00:44:57,359
do is develop that and our primary goal

1118
00:44:57,359 --> 00:44:59,920
there is independent senior housing

1119
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:01,920
because there's a lot of housing out

1120
00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:03,920
there. Um we don't really talk about

1121
00:45:03,920 --> 00:45:06,560
senior housing that much. Um you know we

1122
00:45:06,560 --> 00:45:08,079
have the housing task force. I've talked

1123
00:45:08,079 --> 00:45:11,200
to Caitlyn about this you know um but we

1124
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:13,280
never we talk about workforce housing.

1125
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:15,440
We talk about you know essential

1126
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:17,359
services housing but we don't talk about

1127
00:45:17,359 --> 00:45:19,920
senior housing. And I think it's a big

1128
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:22,160
issue for our community. For example, I

1129
00:45:22,160 --> 00:45:24,640
live in a four-bedroom, two-b house with

1130
00:45:24,640 --> 00:45:26,640
my husband on a quarter acre of land,

1131
00:45:26,640 --> 00:45:28,160
and I don't want to have to do all the

1132
00:45:28,160 --> 00:45:30,800
work I do in my yard anymore, and I

1133
00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,319
don't need a house that big, but I don't

1134
00:45:32,319 --> 00:45:34,240
have anywhere else to go if I wanted to

1135
00:45:34,240 --> 00:45:37,920
move. And so the idea of this campus is

1136
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:40,400
so that people like me and others that

1137
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,040
want to maybe move back into town, have

1138
00:45:43,040 --> 00:45:45,680
a smaller footprint in their home, not

1139
00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:47,280
have a bunch of yard maintenance, kind

1140
00:45:47,280 --> 00:45:48,960
of like a mini retirement community.

1141
00:45:48,960 --> 00:45:50,720
Really, that was the whole vision for

1142
00:45:50,720 --> 00:45:52,960
this. And so we we're going to put on

1143
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,599
RFP to hire somebody, the consultant, a

1144
00:45:55,599 --> 00:45:57,599
planning consultant to help us come up

1145
00:45:57,599 --> 00:45:59,839
with a master plan on what we can do.

1146
00:45:59,839 --> 00:46:01,520
some of this property is commercial, so

1147
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:03,680
we can also have retail, you know, and

1148
00:46:03,680 --> 00:46:05,599
Melissa did a really great job of kind

1149
00:46:05,599 --> 00:46:08,000
of describing to us this the committee

1150
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:10,400
that worked on this, you know, of all

1151
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:11,760
the different things that we could

1152
00:46:11,760 --> 00:46:14,160
actually do there that would benefit not

1153
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:16,720
only the senior population, but kind of

1154
00:46:16,720 --> 00:46:19,520
integrate it into the entire community.

1155
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:21,599
And so anyway, that's kind of where

1156
00:46:21,599 --> 00:46:23,599
we're going with this. You can see the

1157
00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:25,599
lighter green next to the Moab Regional

1158
00:46:25,599 --> 00:46:28,000
Hospital is the care center. We need to

1159
00:46:28,000 --> 00:46:30,160
expand that care center. We need to add

1160
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,440
another 34 units with a memory care and

1161
00:46:33,440 --> 00:46:35,440
other services provided for long-term

1162
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:39,440
care. Um the little pink dots on on the

1163
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:43,280
uh on the right that is Walnut Lane. And

1164
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:44,720
then there's one little strip of

1165
00:46:44,720 --> 00:46:47,040
property that's owned by a private uh

1166
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,760
person that's about it's about an acre

1167
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:52,560
and it's got about 10 trailers on it.

1168
00:46:52,560 --> 00:46:54,240
And so we've also going to ask this

1169
00:46:54,240 --> 00:46:57,680
consultant to look at this this uh u uh

1170
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,240
the expansion of the care center and how

1171
00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:03,280
maybe we can include Walnut Lane and

1172
00:47:03,280 --> 00:47:05,119
this other parcel into the full

1173
00:47:05,119 --> 00:47:07,680
development. Now the green piece is

1174
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:09,680
going to be the senior housing piece.

1175
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:12,319
The others could be whatever you know

1176
00:47:12,319 --> 00:47:14,240
whatever is determined that we want to

1177
00:47:14,240 --> 00:47:16,240
be there other than the care center. So

1178
00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:18,160
hopefully this person that we hire is

1179
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:19,920
going to be able to help us figure all

1180
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,119
of this out and um so that's kind of

1181
00:47:23,119 --> 00:47:25,200
where we're at at with maps.

1182
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:25,920
>> Yes. So

1183
00:47:25,920 --> 00:47:27,440
>> what is what's the commercial zone to

1184
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:28,480
it?

1185
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:29,760
>> Where is it on here?

1186
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:30,560
>> Yes,

1187
00:47:30,560 --> 00:47:34,400
>> it is directly behind I think it's the

1188
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:36,160
property right behind the right next to

1189
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:37,119
the grand center.

1190
00:47:37,119 --> 00:47:37,520
>> Okay.

1191
00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:39,359
>> The one area is the recovery center with

1192
00:47:39,359 --> 00:47:41,280
the black line. That's the recovery. I

1193
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:43,200
think that's commercial and I think

1194
00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:46,880
right behind it is commercial. behind.

1195
00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:47,359
Yeah.

1196
00:47:47,359 --> 00:47:48,319
>> And then how about that piece of

1197
00:47:48,319 --> 00:47:50,240
property to the north, that little the

1198
00:47:50,240 --> 00:47:51,920
red dot property that

1199
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,240
>> that is community rebuilt and we've

1200
00:47:54,240 --> 00:47:56,880
talked to them because right now they're

1201
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:58,480
they what they want to do is put a

1202
00:47:58,480 --> 00:48:00,000
culde-sac in there. And there's some

1203
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:02,800
concerns with our planning staff that if

1204
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,720
there was a fire, they'd be trapped in

1205
00:48:04,720 --> 00:48:06,720
there. And so we want to figure out a

1206
00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:10,240
way to connect them to the care c uh

1207
00:48:10,240 --> 00:48:12,880
center road down below and come up with,

1208
00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,400
you know, and these are all things that

1209
00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,720
a master plan. So basically, we put that

1210
00:48:16,720 --> 00:48:18,319
in there because that's going to be most

1211
00:48:18,319 --> 00:48:20,480
likely community rebuilds housing, which

1212
00:48:20,480 --> 00:48:21,599
is great.

1213
00:48:21,599 --> 00:48:24,319
>> Um, so

1214
00:48:24,319 --> 00:48:28,470
anybody else questions?

1215
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:30,319
» Nobody's very talkative. You guys are

1216
00:48:30,319 --> 00:48:31,839
like way talkative in your meetings.

1217
00:48:31,839 --> 00:48:34,720
>> They want to make me stay on. [laughter]

1218
00:48:34,720 --> 00:48:37,040
I I'm excited to see this happen. I know

1219
00:48:37,040 --> 00:48:42,000
I remember years ago we met and

1220
00:48:42,000 --> 00:48:43,920
before the new hospital I mean this has

1221
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:47,040
been a project for

1222
00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:47,520
years.

1223
00:48:47,520 --> 00:48:50,160
>> Oh yeah this far

1224
00:48:50,160 --> 00:48:52,800
>> 25 actually

1225
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:57,440
>> yeah okay assessment. So yeah, as u when

1226
00:48:57,440 --> 00:48:58,800
I was running for commission, I would

1227
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:01,119
have never thought that senior housing

1228
00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:02,720
was going to be something that I was

1229
00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:05,280
going to champion, but as I was put on

1230
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:07,920
the council of agent aging board and

1231
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:09,839
also the Canyons Healthcare Special

1232
00:49:09,839 --> 00:49:12,400
Service District, it was very apparent

1233
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,079
that this was a need. You know, we all

1234
00:49:14,079 --> 00:49:15,520
hear about housing just like Joette

1235
00:49:15,520 --> 00:49:17,359
said, but not really senior housing,

1236
00:49:17,359 --> 00:49:19,920
senior needs. um and the fact that by

1237
00:49:19,920 --> 00:49:22,559
2030 one one out of every five residents

1238
00:49:22,559 --> 00:49:24,240
going to be over the age of 55 in our

1239
00:49:24,240 --> 00:49:27,599
community. And so I wanted to jump on

1240
00:49:27,599 --> 00:49:29,119
the bandwagon and start working with

1241
00:49:29,119 --> 00:49:31,040
this. So one of the things that we need

1242
00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:33,760
before we can close all the gaps is

1243
00:49:33,760 --> 00:49:36,880
information. And so right now we have a

1244
00:49:36,880 --> 00:49:38,960
communitywide comprehensive needs

1245
00:49:38,960 --> 00:49:40,800
assessment and gap analysis that's going

1246
00:49:40,800 --> 00:49:42,880
to be going out. It's in the advertiser

1247
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,440
this week. There's a QR code or website

1248
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:47,440
I think in the advertiser. You can go on

1249
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:49,920
there. It's on our website. If you look

1250
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,599
if you search um older adults update,

1251
00:49:53,599 --> 00:49:55,440
you can also find a bunch of information

1252
00:49:55,440 --> 00:49:56,800
on what we're doing with this needs

1253
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:58,640
assessment. And this assessment will

1254
00:49:58,640 --> 00:50:01,119
directly inform policy decisions,

1255
00:50:01,119 --> 00:50:04,400
funding advoc advocacy, what the program

1256
00:50:04,400 --> 00:50:06,480
will develop and also what the county's

1257
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:08,400
planning framework looks like. So, this

1258
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,000
is really important. We're hoping to get

1259
00:50:10,000 --> 00:50:12,319
this done quickly and you can fill it

1260
00:50:12,319 --> 00:50:14,480
out for yourself. you can fill it out

1261
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:19,280
for those that you know, but we want to get that far and wide. So, if

1262
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:20,800
you see that in the next few weeks,

1263
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:22,880
please take your time and get that

1264
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,960
accomplished. That will help us in our

1265
00:50:24,960 --> 00:50:26,800
future planning.

1266
00:50:26,800 --> 00:50:28,880
>> Very good. This is really exciting to

1267
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:31,280
me. You know, I don't know all of you

1268
00:50:31,280 --> 00:50:33,119
guys are aware. I'm a gerontologist.

1269
00:50:33,119 --> 00:50:34,720
Study of aging has always been my

1270
00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:36,079
background. You know, I've been in

1271
00:50:36,079 --> 00:50:39,280
long-term care and uh aging population

1272
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:42,160
issues my pretty much my whole career.

1273
00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:45,440
Um, and I really, you know, Mel and I

1274
00:50:45,440 --> 00:50:48,079
have been talking and and the Lisa and I

1275
00:50:48,079 --> 00:50:49,599
just really want to advocate for our

1276
00:50:49,599 --> 00:50:51,359
senior population and you know, the

1277
00:50:51,359 --> 00:50:54,800
county, you guys run a lot of the senior

1278
00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:57,040
services, Council on Aging, the Grand

1279
00:50:57,040 --> 00:50:59,599
Center, Meals on Wheels, but I feel like

1280
00:50:59,599 --> 00:51:01,680
the city needs to step up on this also

1281
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,000
and that we it's something that we all

1282
00:51:04,000 --> 00:51:06,640
can absolutely work together on. And

1283
00:51:06,640 --> 00:51:09,200
let's not forget about that population.

1284
00:51:09,200 --> 00:51:10,400
You know, we're all going to be there,

1285
00:51:10,400 --> 00:51:13,359
Bill. We're already there. her there and

1286
00:51:13,359 --> 00:51:15,440
so are you. Yeah. So, and Mary and Todd,

1287
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,440
I mean, we just I just feel that's so

1288
00:51:17,440 --> 00:51:18,720
important and I just was thrilled

1289
00:51:18,720 --> 00:51:21,040
because I remember when Mel became uh

1290
00:51:21,040 --> 00:51:22,720
the, you know, got on the commission and

1291
00:51:22,720 --> 00:51:24,319
you guys appointed her to the council on

1292
00:51:24,319 --> 00:51:26,000
aging and some other aging and you're

1293
00:51:26,000 --> 00:51:27,839
like, I'm the youngest person here and

1294
00:51:27,839 --> 00:51:29,680
now I get to go deal with all the aging

1295
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:31,760
people, which was great because it was

1296
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,920
an eye openener, I think, for you. And

1297
00:51:33,920 --> 00:51:36,079
I'm just really proud that Melissa also

1298
00:51:36,079 --> 00:51:38,319
jumped on this bag of wagon that the

1299
00:51:38,319 --> 00:51:40,960
three of us just see this important need

1300
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:43,040
and we want to put things forward to

1301
00:51:43,040 --> 00:51:44,640
address it. And I don't want us to

1302
00:51:44,640 --> 00:51:46,559
forget that because we get all involved

1303
00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:49,760
in umptra and you know these fun sexy

1304
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:52,720
projects well sidewalks but you know all

1305
00:51:52,720 --> 00:51:54,800
these other things and we you know we're

1306
00:51:54,800 --> 00:51:57,040
just forgetting about one of our main

1307
00:51:57,040 --> 00:51:59,200
you know most important

1308
00:51:59,200 --> 00:52:01,760
>> people and and I just want to also say

1309
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,319
that today Bill and I got to go to the

1310
00:52:04,319 --> 00:52:05,760
grand center which was packed with

1311
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,800
people and wish Margaret McCay

1312
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:09,280
>> Mackie

1313
00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:13,040
>> Mackey her hundth birthday and those

1314
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,920
kind of things just mean a lot to me and

1315
00:52:15,920 --> 00:52:18,400
I know they do to Bill also. So, I don't

1316
00:52:18,400 --> 00:52:20,079
know what more we want to talk about.

1317
00:52:20,079 --> 00:52:21,440
>> Go ahead. Yeah.

1318
00:52:21,440 --> 00:52:23,280
>> The last piece of this that I really

1319
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:25,040
want to bring forth, I I think

1320
00:52:25,040 --> 00:52:26,960
everywhere I go lately, and maybe it's

1321
00:52:26,960 --> 00:52:28,720
because my ears are open, but people are

1322
00:52:28,720 --> 00:52:30,160
talking about this. You know, they're

1323
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:31,680
saying, "I want to be first on the list.

1324
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:33,440
I'm I'm before you." You know, they're

1325
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,680
kind of fighting over who gets to move

1326
00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,520
into this as it goes and when's it going

1327
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:39,200
to be done and how fast is this going to

1328
00:52:39,200 --> 00:52:41,680
happen and all of those questions I

1329
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:42,800
don't necessarily have the answers for.

1330
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:45,040
or I know we're moving forward. The

1331
00:52:45,040 --> 00:52:47,280
expansion of the care center is key. I

1332
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:50,079
think that that needs to happen. But my

1333
00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:51,760
biggest concern that I'm hearing out

1334
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:54,400
there is that

1335
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:57,599
well, I grew up here. I lived here my

1336
00:52:57,599 --> 00:52:59,359
whole life or my grandparents did and we

1337
00:52:59,359 --> 00:53:00,800
can't even get into the care center. You

1338
00:53:00,800 --> 00:53:01,760
know, there's a hundred people on the

1339
00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:03,359
waiting list. So, I think we need to

1340
00:53:03,359 --> 00:53:05,440
talk about policy. So, I think as as we

1341
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:06,960
all are working on this, if you have

1342
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:08,319
some really great ideas, you know, we

1343
00:53:08,319 --> 00:53:10,800
created policy for housing. we have our,

1344
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:12,960
you know, you have to work here to live

1345
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:14,960
here in our housing. So, I think that we

1346
00:53:14,960 --> 00:53:17,599
need to look at some policy that's going

1347
00:53:17,599 --> 00:53:20,800
to include

1348
00:53:20,800 --> 00:53:22,960
giving a space for those pe community

1349
00:53:22,960 --> 00:53:24,400
members that have lived here. Yes, it's

1350
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:26,720
the economic driver. Yes, we want people

1351
00:53:26,720 --> 00:53:28,800
to come to Moab and spend their last

1352
00:53:28,800 --> 00:53:30,480
breast here because it's a beautiful,

1353
00:53:30,480 --> 00:53:32,559
great air quality, but we also don't

1354
00:53:32,559 --> 00:53:34,079
want to forget about all the people that

1355
00:53:34,079 --> 00:53:36,880
lived here and made that happen. And so

1356
00:53:36,880 --> 00:53:38,640
as we are building this, we need to

1357
00:53:38,640 --> 00:53:40,480
build policy to go right along with it.

1358
00:53:40,480 --> 00:53:41,760
So we just don't get there and be like,

1359
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,880
"Oh crap, we have this amazing space."

1360
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,680
And now our local grandma and grandpa

1361
00:53:47,680 --> 00:53:50,400
can't move in there or ourselves. So

1362
00:53:50,400 --> 00:53:52,000
that's something I really want to start

1363
00:53:52,000 --> 00:53:53,520
working on as well is that policy and

1364
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,599
what that looks like. And I don't know

1365
00:53:55,599 --> 00:53:57,200
what it does yet, but I'm going to ask

1366
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:59,839
for everyone's help on that as well.

1367
00:53:59,839 --> 00:54:01,200
>> You know, one of the things and and

1368
00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:03,280
Melissa, maybe you can uh talk about

1369
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:04,559
this a little bit. Sorry to put you on

1370
00:54:04,559 --> 00:54:06,079
the spot, but it did come up in one of

1371
00:54:06,079 --> 00:54:08,160
our subcommittee meetings about the

1372
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:11,119
council on aging. I mean, we have a

1373
00:54:11,119 --> 00:54:14,240
great council on aging right now led by

1374
00:54:14,240 --> 00:54:17,520
Karen Fury and and and how we could

1375
00:54:17,520 --> 00:54:19,760
strengthen how the county could

1376
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:21,920
strengthen that board to take on some of

1377
00:54:21,920 --> 00:54:23,520
these things that that Mel's talking

1378
00:54:23,520 --> 00:54:24,800
about. Do you remember those

1379
00:54:24,800 --> 00:54:26,160
conversation, Melissa? Am I really

1380
00:54:26,160 --> 00:54:27,680
putting you on the spot on here on this

1381
00:54:27,680 --> 00:54:28,640
one?

1382
00:54:28,640 --> 00:54:31,920
>> No, you totally are. I I think you know

1383
00:54:31,920 --> 00:54:34,480
we talk about it all the time that one

1384
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,079
of the biggest foundations of economic

1385
00:54:36,079 --> 00:54:38,079
development is having a community where

1386
00:54:38,079 --> 00:54:40,480
people want to live because if you have

1387
00:54:40,480 --> 00:54:44,000
a livable community those people are

1388
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,240
starting businesses they it's a place

1389
00:54:46,240 --> 00:54:47,839
where they want to live and I feel like

1390
00:54:47,839 --> 00:54:49,520
we do a really good job at looking at

1391
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:51,119
all of the different areas what makes

1392
00:54:51,119 --> 00:54:53,440
the community livable and what we had

1393
00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,440
talked about is we also need to put that

1394
00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:57,280
same amount of focus into what it's like

1395
00:54:57,280 --> 00:55:00,079
to age here. So having a council on

1396
00:55:00,079 --> 00:55:02,400
aging, you know, what's so important

1397
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,079
about that board is that they're the

1398
00:55:04,079 --> 00:55:05,440
advocates for aging. They're the ones

1399
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,280
that are supposed to be pushing the

1400
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:08,400
county. They're the ones that are

1401
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:10,079
supposed to be pushing the commission to

1402
00:55:10,079 --> 00:55:11,760
the point of discomfort to make sure

1403
00:55:11,760 --> 00:55:16,559
that those voices are heard and that advocacy moves forward. So to be

1404
00:55:16,559 --> 00:55:18,640
able to task them and have them really

1405
00:55:18,640 --> 00:55:20,800
be able to engage as a board and push

1406
00:55:20,800 --> 00:55:23,119
these policies forward and make these

1407
00:55:23,119 --> 00:55:25,920
recommendations, the stronger that board

1408
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:28,720
is, the greater the advocacy they should

1409
00:55:28,720 --> 00:55:30,640
be pushing to be able to advocate for

1410
00:55:30,640 --> 00:55:33,280
aging adults almost to the point of

1411
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,520
discomfort, right? It's one more voice

1412
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:37,200
at the table.

1413
00:55:37,200 --> 00:55:38,720
>> Great.

1414
00:55:38,720 --> 00:55:40,720
You guys have any thoughts on that? I'd

1415
00:55:40,720 --> 00:55:42,640
love to hear from you.

1416
00:55:42,640 --> 00:55:44,800
It's very easy to pull that up on the

1417
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:46,880
advertisers's web page. I just did

1418
00:55:46,880 --> 00:55:48,880
myself to do that assessment. So, I

1419
00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:50,720
really recommend everybody

1420
00:55:50,720 --> 00:55:51,359
>> participate.

1421
00:55:51,359 --> 00:55:53,200
>> Yeah. Participate in that because some

1422
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:56,000
of our comments will be part of the

1423
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,520
decisions, you know, around just like

1424
00:55:57,520 --> 00:56:00,480
Mel said, we don't want to

1425
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:02,960
have just retirees moving here to take

1426
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:05,200
up these spaces. We want to welcome them

1427
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:06,960
here, but we also need to take care of

1428
00:56:06,960 --> 00:56:10,559
our aging population. some of our in

1429
00:56:10,559 --> 00:56:13,520
families that started this valley. So,

1430
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,119
you know, I I would urge you to go to

1431
00:56:15,119 --> 00:56:18,000
that advertiser page for that,

1432
00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,359
>> right?

1433
00:56:19,359 --> 00:56:21,440
>> Yeah, just just kind of second on that

1434
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:23,440
right there. Um, you know, that the

1435
00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,680
easiest way to advocate at the state for

1436
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:27,599
funding, which this is going to require,

1437
00:56:27,599 --> 00:56:29,839
is to have data. So, you know, being

1438
00:56:29,839 --> 00:56:31,520
able to have the needs assessment in

1439
00:56:31,520 --> 00:56:33,520
hand when we're up there talking to

1440
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:35,599
legislators and it's it's invaluable to

1441
00:56:35,599 --> 00:56:37,359
say, "No, this is where we're at. This

1442
00:56:37,359 --> 00:56:39,040
is where we're going right here. Can you

1443
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:40,960
guys help us get there? So,

1444
00:56:40,960 --> 00:56:42,960
>> great. Thanks,

1445
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,710
>> Mike. You've been quiet.

1446
00:56:46,720 --> 00:56:50,160
» Definitely not my usual, but I I I know

1447
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:53,760
that I am one of the younger members of both the commission and the council.

1448
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:54,880
>> You won't be forever.

1449
00:56:54,880 --> 00:56:57,680
>> I won't be forever. Uh this has been an

1450
00:56:57,680 --> 00:57:00,400
ongoing uh topic for my own family.

1451
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:06,000
uh my wife's parents uh now parent are

1452
00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:10,799
uh far more aged uh they're older than

1453
00:57:10,799 --> 00:57:13,680
uh even my own parents and the question

1454
00:57:13,680 --> 00:57:16,160
of availability of care centers and

1455
00:57:16,160 --> 00:57:19,359
everything we have always looked uh over

1456
00:57:19,359 --> 00:57:22,480
the last four years we've looked outside

1457
00:57:22,480 --> 00:57:26,319
of Mov because we know uh no uh getting

1458
00:57:26,319 --> 00:57:28,799
in getting uh getting a room at the care

1459
00:57:28,799 --> 00:57:32,480
center is it's a list. Uh we also know

1460
00:57:32,480 --> 00:57:35,760
that uh our other communities that are

1461
00:57:35,760 --> 00:57:37,760
close, Grand Junction Price both do

1462
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:42,160
this. They both have uh senior living.

1463
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:45,280
Uh and I in that I would really look

1464
00:57:45,280 --> 00:57:47,599
towards our communities. I mean what

1465
00:57:47,599 --> 00:57:50,319
they are doing right next door. Uh

1466
00:57:50,319 --> 00:57:52,240
because they're not that far away. If

1467
00:57:52,240 --> 00:57:54,880
they have a good idea, our person who we

1468
00:57:54,880 --> 00:57:56,720
put on this should be stealing those

1469
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,440
good ideas. So, I mean, it's it doesn't

1470
00:57:59,440 --> 00:58:04,640
take a lot for a a good uh

1471
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:06,799
picture of what is going on with aging.

1472
00:58:06,799 --> 00:58:09,599
Uh, Grand Junction has huge communities.

1473
00:58:09,599 --> 00:58:15,119
Uh, I I've stayed with them. I've had uh

1474
00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:18,319
family and friends uh uh in senior

1475
00:58:18,319 --> 00:58:20,799
living in Grand Junction and uh I've

1476
00:58:20,799 --> 00:58:22,640
seen some things that they do right and

1477
00:58:22,640 --> 00:58:24,160
I didn't know at the time that they were

1478
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,160
doing some things wrong, but now being

1479
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,200
in a a a a commission member position.

1480
00:58:29,200 --> 00:58:31,760
You see that and you see what

1481
00:58:31,760 --> 00:58:32,960
infrastructure needs are going to be

1482
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:35,520
meet uh downtown. But I hope we look

1483
00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:37,680
towards local communities that are doing

1484
00:58:37,680 --> 00:58:40,559
things right right next to us.

1485
00:58:40,559 --> 00:58:43,200
>> Yes. Very very well taken. And we have,

1486
00:58:43,200 --> 00:58:44,480
you know, when we first started all

1487
00:58:44,480 --> 00:58:46,160
this, I mean, my whole thing, like I

1488
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:47,920
said, was I want this to be a little

1489
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:50,079
mini retirement community because we're

1490
00:58:50,079 --> 00:58:52,160
small and that's our biggest challenge

1491
00:58:52,160 --> 00:58:54,240
is we're, you know, we just don't have

1492
00:58:54,240 --> 00:58:56,160
those kind of populations. But I think

1493
00:58:56,160 --> 00:58:57,760
we can get this done and I think with

1494
00:58:57,760 --> 00:58:59,920
the help of a consultant and with Mel

1495
00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:01,599
and Melissa and Michael in the

1496
00:59:01,599 --> 00:59:04,000
healthcare special services that we can

1497
00:59:04,000 --> 00:59:06,240
make this happen. I really encourage

1498
00:59:06,240 --> 00:59:08,480
everybody to pay paying attention. Mel

1499
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:10,319
and I will report back to our bodies

1500
00:59:10,319 --> 00:59:13,200
about it and um hopefully we'll start

1501
00:59:13,200 --> 00:59:16,400
seeing some real movement in in the next

1502
00:59:16,400 --> 00:59:18,400
well we'll be the first year is going to

1503
00:59:18,400 --> 00:59:19,920
be a lot of a community engagement and

1504
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:21,280
then we'll have a plan and then after

1505
00:59:21,280 --> 00:59:23,040
that we have to figure out what we're

1506
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:24,240
going to do you know how we're going to

1507
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:25,520
make it happen.

1508
00:59:25,520 --> 00:59:27,119
So, anybody else? Yes, Caitlyn.

1509
00:59:27,119 --> 00:59:29,520
>> Yes. Um, I have a a question and a

1510
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,400
comment. I'm I'm curious to hear um I

1511
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:34,559
guess just a quick run through of what

1512
00:59:34,559 --> 00:59:36,240
the scope of, you know, kind of what the

1513
00:59:36,240 --> 00:59:38,880
RFP is. I hear that independent senior

1514
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:41,200
living is a priority and memory care,

1515
00:59:41,200 --> 00:59:44,240
but curious if there are specific

1516
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:46,720
commercial uses or what the vision is in

1517
00:59:46,720 --> 00:59:51,440
the RFP. Um, and then and I guess also a

1518
00:59:51,440 --> 00:59:54,640
comment being one of the probably the

1519
00:59:54,640 --> 00:59:57,680
youngest person here. Um, I think that

1520
00:59:57,680 --> 01:00:00,400
senior housing is a young people's issue

1521
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:03,440
too. Um, I think it's a a

1522
01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:06,640
intergenerational conversation. Um,

1523
01:00:06,640 --> 01:00:09,440
because your fourbedroom house is a

1524
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,839
place where someone that's my age could

1525
01:00:11,839 --> 01:00:14,720
buy and then start a family. So, um just

1526
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:16,559
wanting to be clear that I, you know, we

1527
01:00:16,559 --> 01:00:18,880
do talk about all kinds of housing and

1528
01:00:18,880 --> 01:00:20,960
um from my perspective, I want to

1529
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:24,960
advocate for on behalf of and to young

1530
01:00:24,960 --> 01:00:28,000
people into the community that this is a

1531
01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:31,839
an a topic of conversation for everyone.

1532
01:00:31,839 --> 01:00:34,400
Um MAP senior living is actually 55 and

1533
01:00:34,400 --> 01:00:37,040
up. So, you know, even just this idea of

1534
01:00:37,040 --> 01:00:39,440
what senior housing means, that's that's

1535
01:00:39,440 --> 01:00:42,480
my parents. that's, you know, that's a

1536
01:00:42,480 --> 01:00:45,440
lot of people in this room. Um, so kind

1537
01:00:45,440 --> 01:00:47,119
of opening up that conversation that

1538
01:00:47,119 --> 01:00:49,680
this is for everyone, echoing people

1539
01:00:49,680 --> 01:00:51,760
getting involved.

1540
01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:54,880
So, our vision is the final phase of the

1541
01:00:54,880 --> 01:00:57,119
maps campus will establish an integrated

1542
01:00:57,119 --> 01:00:59,680
senior community, woven into the fabric

1543
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:02,000
of Moab's landscape, healthcare network,

1544
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,480
and daily civic life. It will be a place

1545
01:01:04,480 --> 01:01:06,319
where people of all ages and income

1546
01:01:06,319 --> 01:01:08,640
levels can age in place with dignity,

1547
01:01:08,640 --> 01:01:10,480
connection, and a true sense of

1548
01:01:10,480 --> 01:01:13,200
belonging. And our goals, oh, wait,

1549
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:15,280
there's more. The completed campus will

1550
01:01:15,280 --> 01:01:17,040
serve as a model for small rural

1551
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,440
communities, demonstrating sustainable

1552
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,599
human- centered solutions to the

1553
01:01:21,599 --> 01:01:24,160
challenges of an aging population. more

1554
01:01:24,160 --> 01:01:25,760
than a place to live. It will be a

1555
01:01:25,760 --> 01:01:28,880
community people act a community where

1556
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:31,119
people actively choose to be a part of

1557
01:01:31,119 --> 01:01:33,040
one that fosters engagement, purpose,

1558
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:36,240
and continuity over time. And our goals

1559
01:01:36,240 --> 01:01:38,480
are to create a cohesive integrated

1560
01:01:38,480 --> 01:01:40,160
series of developments that have a sense

1561
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,240
of place through all phases of

1562
01:01:42,240 --> 01:01:44,640
development. Organize transportation and

1563
01:01:44,640 --> 01:01:46,480
circulation to minimize vehicle

1564
01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:48,880
pedestrian complex and maximize

1565
01:01:48,880 --> 01:01:51,359
accessibility. Provide continuity

1566
01:01:51,359 --> 01:01:53,040
throughout the development with pathway

1567
01:01:53,040 --> 01:01:55,200
seating and lighting standards. Create

1568
01:01:55,200 --> 01:01:57,520
multi-generational open space community

1569
01:01:57,520 --> 01:01:59,680
park that serves needs unmet in other

1570
01:01:59,680 --> 01:02:02,160
parks in the community and maximize the

1571
01:02:02,160 --> 01:02:04,079
comfort, safety, and use of open space

1572
01:02:04,079 --> 01:02:06,160
in the maps development. And that those

1573
01:02:06,160 --> 01:02:08,319
goals were from 25 years ago when we

1574
01:02:08,319 --> 01:02:10,160
started this project, but they still

1575
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:12,160
apply today.

1576
01:02:12,160 --> 01:02:14,160
And it was approved last week at the

1577
01:02:14,160 --> 01:02:15,599
Kayan's Healthcare Special Service

1578
01:02:15,599 --> 01:02:18,160
District meeting. And so it'll go out, I

1579
01:02:18,160 --> 01:02:20,799
think next week. It'll be all ready to

1580
01:02:20,799 --> 01:02:21,280
>> Yes.

1581
01:02:21,280 --> 01:02:22,880
>> be the planes out.

1582
01:02:22,880 --> 01:02:23,680
>> Yes.

1583
01:02:23,680 --> 01:02:26,319
>> For and and hopefully have respondents

1584
01:02:26,319 --> 01:02:30,000
back by the end of Mayjune

1585
01:02:30,000 --> 01:02:32,079
>> for the for that board to go through.

1586
01:02:32,079 --> 01:02:34,960
So, and Tony's on that board as well.

1587
01:02:34,960 --> 01:02:36,160
>> I just have one comment.

1588
01:02:36,160 --> 01:02:36,559
>> Sure.

1589
01:02:36,559 --> 01:02:39,200
>> Couldn't you have found a better um

1590
01:02:39,200 --> 01:02:42,160
search search term than older adults?

1591
01:02:42,160 --> 01:02:44,319
Can't be. We'd be wisdomful adults or

1592
01:02:44,319 --> 01:02:45,760
something.

1593
01:02:45,760 --> 01:02:47,760
>> I would love that, but it's for

1594
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,839
consistency. Yeah, we're just holding

1595
01:02:49,839 --> 01:02:51,440
the standard. And I'm

1596
01:02:51,440 --> 01:02:53,440
>> older adult.

1597
01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:55,839
That's [laughter]

1598
01:02:55,839 --> 01:02:58,079
>> um and Caitlyn, I'm happy to send you

1599
01:02:58,079 --> 01:02:59,760
more of the scope and the deliverables.

1600
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:01,440
So, if you want those kind of specifics,

1601
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:03,280
I just don't think it's I need to get

1602
01:03:03,280 --> 01:03:06,000
into those now. But, um anyway, I think

1603
01:03:06,000 --> 01:03:08,160
we'll wrap up this discussion. Um more

1604
01:03:08,160 --> 01:03:10,000
to come on this, but we really wanted to

1605
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,799
share this. I think this is a a really

1606
01:03:12,799 --> 01:03:15,680
important. This is like the last piece

1607
01:03:15,680 --> 01:03:19,839
of property in the city of Moab and we

1608
01:03:19,839 --> 01:03:21,200
want to make it something really

1609
01:03:21,200 --> 01:03:23,039
special. You know, I was at the Grand

1610
01:03:23,039 --> 01:03:24,319
Center today and I'm like, "Wow, this

1611
01:03:24,319 --> 01:03:26,799
place hasn't aged." I mean, it looks so

1612
01:03:26,799 --> 01:03:28,960
good for as long as it's been there. And

1613
01:03:28,960 --> 01:03:31,119
so, I really would like to see

1614
01:03:31,119 --> 01:03:31,760
>> What's that?

1615
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:33,200
>> They take care of it really well.

1616
01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:35,520
>> They do. I really would like to see us

1617
01:03:35,520 --> 01:03:37,920
um you know I'd like to see this final

1618
01:03:37,920 --> 01:03:39,839
map space something that everybody in

1619
01:03:39,839 --> 01:03:41,839
this room can be a part of and to be

1620
01:03:41,839 --> 01:03:45,760
proud of. So anyway, that's it on that.

1621
01:03:45,760 --> 01:03:48,160
Now we're going to move into the

1622
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:49,839
downtown plan and the city's getting

1623
01:03:49,839 --> 01:03:51,760
ready to update our downtown plan and we

1624
01:03:51,760 --> 01:03:53,599
kind of had conversations about this in

1625
01:03:53,599 --> 01:03:57,280
the past. Um but we really want, you

1626
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:58,880
know, the county to be a part of this

1627
01:03:58,880 --> 01:04:00,640
process. you know, our downtown is your

1628
01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:03,119
downtown and um and that's kind of our

1629
01:04:03,119 --> 01:04:05,200
jurisdiction. So, we kind of have a lot

1630
01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:08,079
of focus on that. But, Michael and Lisa,

1631
01:04:08,079 --> 01:04:09,520
if you guys wouldn't mind just kind of

1632
01:04:09,520 --> 01:04:11,119
walking everybody through what our

1633
01:04:11,119 --> 01:04:12,319
thoughts are and where we're going to go

1634
01:04:12,319 --> 01:04:13,440
with this.

1635
01:04:13,440 --> 01:04:15,520
>> All right. So, the I think the most

1636
01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:18,400
important thing here is that the uh

1637
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,400
there is a downtown master plan that

1638
01:04:20,400 --> 01:04:22,640
wasn't adopted and it was uh done in

1639
01:04:22,640 --> 01:04:25,280
finished in 2017. And we do think that

1640
01:04:25,280 --> 01:04:27,359
there are things in that master plan

1641
01:04:27,359 --> 01:04:30,160
that can be taken out and still used

1642
01:04:30,160 --> 01:04:34,559
today. So we are working on uh hiring a

1643
01:04:34,559 --> 01:04:39,119
consultant who can come in and uh

1644
01:04:39,119 --> 01:04:42,400
and update that plan for us. And some of

1645
01:04:42,400 --> 01:04:45,039
the things that we want to do are to the

1646
01:04:45,039 --> 01:04:47,520
big things are to have a unified vision

1647
01:04:47,520 --> 01:04:50,640
for downtown. Safety is a major uh

1648
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:52,319
component of this especially when it

1649
01:04:52,319 --> 01:04:54,319
comes to multimodal

1650
01:04:54,319 --> 01:04:56,799
uh talking about bikes, pedestrians,

1651
01:04:56,799 --> 01:04:59,119
anybody in the walking wheeling network

1652
01:04:59,119 --> 01:05:02,240
uh versus cars. And then obvious and

1653
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:05,119
then going down to having a plan that we

1654
01:05:05,119 --> 01:05:07,599
can build on and we can implement uh

1655
01:05:07,599 --> 01:05:11,440
going forward to to build our community

1656
01:05:11,440 --> 01:05:14,240
or our downtown uh into the next

1657
01:05:14,240 --> 01:05:16,960
generation. But also, as you can see in

1658
01:05:16,960 --> 01:05:19,440
the map that I put up, there's a there's

1659
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:23,760
a long oblong oval thingy. That's the

1660
01:05:23,760 --> 01:05:25,599
downtown, and that's Main Street and

1661
01:05:25,599 --> 01:05:28,640
First West and and part of Center Street

1662
01:05:28,640 --> 01:05:30,319
and and, you know, part of First East

1663
01:05:30,319 --> 01:05:33,039
and things like that. But there are also

1664
01:05:33,039 --> 01:05:35,440
a lot of nodes that connect to downtown

1665
01:05:35,440 --> 01:05:37,200
and those have to be part of any

1666
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:40,000
discussion that we have with downtown.

1667
01:05:40,000 --> 01:05:42,400
Um, you can see medical/housing. That's

1668
01:05:42,400 --> 01:05:44,640
the plan that we just we just talked

1669
01:05:44,640 --> 01:05:46,480
about. That's that life. You could call

1670
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:48,400
it a lifestyle center. It could be

1671
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:49,839
whatever you want to call it, but that

1672
01:05:49,839 --> 01:05:52,000
master plan there needs to connect to

1673
01:05:52,000 --> 01:05:54,240
downtown as well to get the quality of

1674
01:05:54,240 --> 01:05:56,240
life. And we got several educational

1675
01:05:56,240 --> 01:05:58,559
facilities, recreational facilities, and

1676
01:05:58,559 --> 01:06:00,720
civic facilities. And over time, we

1677
01:06:00,720 --> 01:06:03,599
might even see some of these corridors

1678
01:06:03,599 --> 01:06:06,079
uh for the downtown, maybe the downtown

1679
01:06:06,079 --> 01:06:08,960
move just a little bit. If demand

1680
01:06:08,960 --> 01:06:11,200
continues to grow, uh we could see

1681
01:06:11,200 --> 01:06:13,039
things expanding down Center Street a

1682
01:06:13,039 --> 01:06:14,799
little bit more and and a couple of

1683
01:06:14,799 --> 01:06:17,359
other streets as well. So, we want to

1684
01:06:17,359 --> 01:06:19,119
look at everything. That's my point is

1685
01:06:19,119 --> 01:06:20,799
we don't necessarily want to plan

1686
01:06:20,799 --> 01:06:22,400
everything, but make sure that there's

1687
01:06:22,400 --> 01:06:25,359
an opportunity to connect to the nodes

1688
01:06:25,359 --> 01:06:27,119
that currently exist and the ones that

1689
01:06:27,119 --> 01:06:29,280
we're looking at going forward. So, some

1690
01:06:29,280 --> 01:06:30,799
of the things that we've already done

1691
01:06:30,799 --> 01:06:33,039
over the last couple of years is we've

1692
01:06:33,039 --> 01:06:36,319
got a a big sidewalk project that we're doing right now. You might have

1693
01:06:36,319 --> 01:06:39,760
seen some of the amazing infrastructure

1694
01:06:39,760 --> 01:06:44,559
uh fixes that we've done in front of the Mick and and in front of the coffee

1695
01:06:44,559 --> 01:06:46,079
roasters, and we're going to continue to

1696
01:06:46,079 --> 01:06:49,440
do those things. Uh the trash ban trash

1697
01:06:49,440 --> 01:06:52,720
bin replacement has been going on. We've

1698
01:06:52,720 --> 01:06:55,119
got recycling bins out there now, plus

1699
01:06:55,119 --> 01:06:57,760
regular old trash bins with art on them,

1700
01:06:57,760 --> 01:06:59,440
things like that. I won't go through all

1701
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:02,240
of these, but we did do a trial for bulb

1702
01:07:02,240 --> 01:07:05,760
outs. I think it there's a mixed view of

1703
01:07:05,760 --> 01:07:07,839
how successful that was. I think if from

1704
01:07:07,839 --> 01:07:09,839
the pedestrian standpoint, I think it

1705
01:07:09,839 --> 01:07:12,400
was very successful. I think from a

1706
01:07:12,400 --> 01:07:14,559
driver standpoint, there's probably some

1707
01:07:14,559 --> 01:07:16,000
a little bit of a learning curve with

1708
01:07:16,000 --> 01:07:17,680
bulb outs and things like that that we

1709
01:07:17,680 --> 01:07:20,319
still need to talk about. Uh we have

1710
01:07:20,319 --> 01:07:24,000
done some uh bus parking on Maine. We

1711
01:07:24,000 --> 01:07:26,319
are doing some enforcement with uh

1712
01:07:26,319 --> 01:07:28,400
trucks in left lanes with the police

1713
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:30,640
department as well as red light runner

1714
01:07:30,640 --> 01:07:32,720
enforcement which they've always done.

1715
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:36,319
But I just want to make sure that that that's out there that they continue

1716
01:07:36,319 --> 01:07:40,640
to do that. And then um we are also

1717
01:07:40,640 --> 01:07:43,599
improving our Matt the Moab area transit

1718
01:07:43,599 --> 01:07:46,799
signage uh stop system and and all of

1719
01:07:46,799 --> 01:07:49,359
those things downtown as well. So, last

1720
01:07:49,359 --> 01:07:51,680
thing is just to state that we have

1721
01:07:51,680 --> 01:07:53,680
submitted a grant application. The city

1722
01:07:53,680 --> 01:07:55,680
has uh we're hoping to plan start

1723
01:07:55,680 --> 01:07:59,039
planning with this downtown plan in

1724
01:07:59,039 --> 01:08:01,440
June. Uh we do have several things that

1725
01:08:01,440 --> 01:08:03,520
are in progress, but I wanted to mention

1726
01:08:03,520 --> 01:08:05,200
that there are also some other plans

1727
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,440
that will go into this. There's a

1728
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:09,119
smaller north entry beautifification

1729
01:08:09,119 --> 01:08:10,640
plan. That's one of the council's goals

1730
01:08:10,640 --> 01:08:12,559
for this year, one of their priorities.

1731
01:08:12,559 --> 01:08:14,720
Obviously, that needs to be wrapped into

1732
01:08:14,720 --> 01:08:16,560
this, but doesn't necessarily need to

1733
01:08:16,560 --> 01:08:19,600
wait until the master plan is done.

1734
01:08:19,600 --> 01:08:21,440
We're hoping to do a master plan for

1735
01:08:21,440 --> 01:08:24,239
Swany, uh, Swany Park, and we'll be

1736
01:08:24,239 --> 01:08:25,520
talking about a lot of different things

1737
01:08:25,520 --> 01:08:28,239
there. Um, not the least of which will

1738
01:08:28,239 --> 01:08:31,120
be skate park and and location, future

1739
01:08:31,120 --> 01:08:33,359
location for those types of things. And

1740
01:08:33,359 --> 01:08:36,080
then the maps master plan. Um, we want

1741
01:08:36,080 --> 01:08:37,839
to try to incorporate all of these

1742
01:08:37,839 --> 01:08:39,359
things and make sure they're all talking

1743
01:08:39,359 --> 01:08:41,440
to each other so that all of those nodes

1744
01:08:41,440 --> 01:08:43,440
do have those connections going forward.

1745
01:08:43,440 --> 01:08:45,440
So, we'll leave it at that. I believe

1746
01:08:45,440 --> 01:08:48,159
that was it for for me. So, that's where

1747
01:08:48,159 --> 01:08:50,000
we are with the downtown master

1748
01:08:50,000 --> 01:08:51,120
planning.

1749
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:54,880
>> Do can you or Melissa or Mel address how

1750
01:08:54,880 --> 01:08:57,839
the county would be

1751
01:08:57,839 --> 01:08:58,640
plan?

1752
01:08:58,640 --> 01:09:01,520
>> I can I can Yeah, I can do that. So, I

1753
01:09:01,520 --> 01:09:02,880
think there's there's a couple of

1754
01:09:02,880 --> 01:09:04,159
different ways that we could do it. Now,

1755
01:09:04,159 --> 01:09:05,679
it hasn't been set up yet, but we

1756
01:09:05,679 --> 01:09:08,000
definitely could have a a

1757
01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:10,159
multi-jurisdictional committee that

1758
01:09:10,159 --> 01:09:12,000
could be involved with this, just like

1759
01:09:12,000 --> 01:09:14,159
we're talking about with the site

1760
01:09:14,159 --> 01:09:16,239
futures and those types of things. And I

1761
01:09:16,239 --> 01:09:18,560
think um we just need to sit down and

1762
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:19,839
decide who's going to be on that. The

1763
01:09:19,839 --> 01:09:21,679
mayor and I have talked a lot about

1764
01:09:21,679 --> 01:09:23,520
making sure that the county is involved

1765
01:09:23,520 --> 01:09:25,279
in this and that the county has a seat

1766
01:09:25,279 --> 01:09:27,839
at the table. Um but the the city will

1767
01:09:27,839 --> 01:09:30,000
definitely be putting out the RFP,

1768
01:09:30,000 --> 01:09:32,239
moving forward with uh getting a

1769
01:09:32,239 --> 01:09:33,839
consultant, things like that. But we

1770
01:09:33,839 --> 01:09:36,799
definitely want uh tra travel and

1771
01:09:36,799 --> 01:09:39,839
tourism in involved as well, the county

1772
01:09:39,839 --> 01:09:42,560
and downtown businesses

1773
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:45,120
and other affected entities or affect

1774
01:09:45,120 --> 01:09:47,920
affected parties and stakeholders. Uh we

1775
01:09:47,920 --> 01:09:49,679
just haven't put that list together yet,

1776
01:09:49,679 --> 01:09:53,440
but that's the idea.

1777
01:09:53,440 --> 01:09:55,920
>> Sounds good.

1778
01:09:55,920 --> 01:09:57,440
I'm sure that one of the commissioners

1779
01:09:57,440 --> 01:09:59,440
would be interested in joining that when

1780
01:09:59,440 --> 01:10:02,320
it's time as well as other staff

1781
01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:04,640
possibly.

1782
01:10:04,640 --> 01:10:07,040
You guys are just like

1783
01:10:07,040 --> 01:10:09,679
are you like not able to talk because

1784
01:10:09,679 --> 01:10:11,600
yes Trish

1785
01:10:11,600 --> 01:10:14,239
I I I was told I had to keep my mouth my

1786
01:10:14,239 --> 01:10:16,283
mouth shut

1787
01:10:16,283 --> 01:10:18,480
[laughter] that I fine I probably gave

1788
01:10:18,480 --> 01:10:20,480
the

1789
01:10:20,480 --> 01:10:22,178
>> I didn't I did a pretty good job. I

1790
01:10:22,178 --> 01:10:24,000
[laughter] mean, I'm all into this.

1791
01:10:24,000 --> 01:10:27,360
>> No, please, Trish,

1792
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:28,400
>> you get one change.

1793
01:10:28,400 --> 01:10:31,920
>> I got one strike figure out.

1794
01:10:31,920 --> 01:10:33,840
>> No, I think it's fabulous. It' be great

1795
01:10:33,840 --> 01:10:36,000
for the the county to be involved in

1796
01:10:36,000 --> 01:10:37,440
that, Disney.

1797
01:10:37,440 --> 01:10:38,880
>> I have a question. How are these plans

1798
01:10:38,880 --> 01:10:40,800
going to come into play with your land

1799
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:42,640
use code update you guys are doing right

1800
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:43,840
now?

1801
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:46,480
>> It's it's all integrated. So, part of

1802
01:10:46,480 --> 01:10:48,239
the downtown master plan, we'll be

1803
01:10:48,239 --> 01:10:50,159
looking at the land use codes as well.

1804
01:10:50,159 --> 01:10:51,840
Um, parking is a big part of that,

1805
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:55,199
parking requirements and land uses. Uh,

1806
01:10:55,199 --> 01:10:56,800
all of those types of things will be

1807
01:10:56,800 --> 01:10:59,199
part of the discussion with the master

1808
01:10:59,199 --> 01:11:01,679
plan and also will carry over into what

1809
01:11:01,679 --> 01:11:03,920
Corey's doing with the, uh, with the

1810
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:05,360
land use update.

1811
01:11:05,360 --> 01:11:07,840
>> Perfect. One thing I've noticed here is

1812
01:11:07,840 --> 01:11:09,199
um, you know, we all we all kind of

1813
01:11:09,199 --> 01:11:11,760
agree that tourism is our economy, at

1814
01:11:11,760 --> 01:11:14,640
least as right now. Um, and in places

1815
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:16,800
for tourism to grow so that we can stay

1816
01:11:16,800 --> 01:11:19,520
relevant. So, right now, I know that um

1817
01:11:19,520 --> 01:11:21,199
starting off outfitters or anything like

1818
01:11:21,199 --> 01:11:22,960
that. Right now in both the city and the

1819
01:11:22,960 --> 01:11:24,800
county, there's just not a lot of spots

1820
01:11:24,800 --> 01:11:27,120
for. So maybe when you guys are looking

1821
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:29,120
at how this plays together between this

1822
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:31,679
plan and the you know land use code

1823
01:11:31,679 --> 01:11:33,760
update, maybe looking into some of those

1824
01:11:33,760 --> 01:11:35,199
outfitter restrictions that have been

1825
01:11:35,199 --> 01:11:37,840
placed in your guys land use code same

1826
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:42,870
way we're looking at the county as well.

1827
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:45,840
» Yeah, that is one of the priority items

1828
01:11:45,840 --> 01:11:48,800
is the outfitter designation. Is it the

1829
01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:53,440
C2 zone? Yeah. So that NC3. So that orc3

1830
01:11:53,440 --> 01:11:56,000
that'll be uh we are working on that

1831
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,800
right now. Right, Corey? So

1832
01:11:58,800 --> 01:12:00,560
>> it's great. We're going to stay

1833
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:01,840
relevant. We're going to need to grow.

1834
01:12:01,840 --> 01:12:03,679
There's so many great things that happen

1835
01:12:03,679 --> 01:12:05,280
in this community. We should make sure

1836
01:12:05,280 --> 01:12:08,400
there's places for sure. For those

1837
01:12:08,400 --> 01:12:10,159
>> Absolutely. No. And I think as we do

1838
01:12:10,159 --> 01:12:11,600
this downtown plan, I think it's really

1839
01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:14,640
important to include um you know the the

1840
01:12:14,640 --> 01:12:16,400
office of tourism, you know, the county

1841
01:12:16,400 --> 01:12:18,000
and the city and stuff. so that we're

1842
01:12:18,000 --> 01:12:19,120
all on the same pages because I know

1843
01:12:19,120 --> 01:12:20,480
that as I've been on some of these

1844
01:12:20,480 --> 01:12:21,920
boards and stuff, everybody's kind of

1845
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:23,600
talking and things but no one's talking

1846
01:12:23,600 --> 01:12:24,880
to each other. So, I think this kind of

1847
01:12:24,880 --> 01:12:26,800
gives a platform to where we can all

1848
01:12:26,800 --> 01:12:29,280
come up with a a similar message and

1849
01:12:29,280 --> 01:12:32,960
work together to, you know, create a a

1850
01:12:32,960 --> 01:12:34,960
very vibrant and established downtown

1851
01:12:34,960 --> 01:12:36,960
where people want to come and hang out

1852
01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:40,560
and um spend money, you know, for lack

1853
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:41,760
of a better word. So, I so I'm looking

1854
01:12:41,760 --> 01:12:43,120
really looking forward to this joint

1855
01:12:43,120 --> 01:12:45,199
effort. And you know, I'll just throw in

1856
01:12:45,199 --> 01:12:48,880
there too, the downtown is really nice.

1857
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:51,280
I I live right downtown and and we walk

1858
01:12:51,280 --> 01:12:53,679
downtown all the time and it and it is

1859
01:12:53,679 --> 01:12:55,920
it's in inspirational to be able to be

1860
01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:58,320
downtown among all these people who

1861
01:12:58,320 --> 01:13:01,280
choose to be in this area. And I agree

1862
01:13:01,280 --> 01:13:04,400
with Brian. I think that uh one of we do

1863
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:05,920
need to think about what our future

1864
01:13:05,920 --> 01:13:07,840
looks like and not just rest on our

1865
01:13:07,840 --> 01:13:10,159
laurels. And and so that's one of the

1866
01:13:10,159 --> 01:13:12,480
things with the sidewalk project, you

1867
01:13:12,480 --> 01:13:14,320
know, why wait until the master plan was

1868
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:16,480
done to we know we need wider sidewalks.

1869
01:13:16,480 --> 01:13:17,760
There's a lot of areas where we're

1870
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:19,760
missing sidewalk where we have holes

1871
01:13:19,760 --> 01:13:21,679
where there used to be lights or trees

1872
01:13:21,679 --> 01:13:23,760
or things like that and we can reclaim

1873
01:13:23,760 --> 01:13:25,280
those things. So that's what we're we're

1874
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:28,640
trying to do. But but um building on on

1875
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:31,199
what we have and what uh to give credit

1876
01:13:31,199 --> 01:13:33,920
to the the uh business owners what

1877
01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:36,239
they've built on on Main Street as well

1878
01:13:36,239 --> 01:13:39,199
and in the downtown. So

1879
01:13:39,199 --> 01:13:40,880
>> yeah, Mike,

1880
01:13:40,880 --> 01:13:44,000
>> in speaking about sidewalks and pathway,

1881
01:13:44,000 --> 01:13:46,400
uh me and Miles catch up at the Liam

1882
01:13:46,400 --> 01:13:49,440
Lumberyard quite often and uh we really

1883
01:13:49,440 --> 01:13:51,360
need to put some interconnectivity to

1884
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:53,760
Spanish Valley Pathway currently going

1885
01:13:53,760 --> 01:13:56,960
into the works and the city's uh

1886
01:13:56,960 --> 01:13:58,480
multiathways.

1887
01:13:58,480 --> 01:14:01,040
Um it really will give a good balance

1888
01:14:01,040 --> 01:14:03,280
right there at the city county line uh

1889
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:06,800
to get uh to get our all of our

1890
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:09,280
residents across both both directions.

1891
01:14:09,280 --> 01:14:12,400
Uh and I mean the interconnectivity with

1892
01:14:12,400 --> 01:14:14,080
a large development, the Royal Crossing

1893
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:16,080
development. It's it's going to be key

1894
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:21,760
to get multimod multi- uh mobile transit

1895
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:26,080
in in from a a large group of people uh

1896
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:27,600
to bring them into town that are not

1897
01:14:27,600 --> 01:14:29,840
driving down 191.

1898
01:14:29,840 --> 01:14:32,080
>> So, and I know that they'll use it often

1899
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:35,040
for that. I will personally be on that

1900
01:14:35,040 --> 01:14:37,040
trail quite a bit, but we really need to

1901
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:39,040
continue that interconnectivity uh

1902
01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:40,640
conversation, especially at those

1903
01:14:40,640 --> 01:14:41,440
joints.

1904
01:14:41,440 --> 01:14:48,790
>> Right. Any other comments?

1905
01:14:48,800 --> 01:14:51,679
Kadoki, when do we anticipate us moving

1906
01:14:51,679 --> 01:14:53,600
forward with this downtown plan?

1907
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,120
>> Well, we need we've got a lot of things

1908
01:14:55,120 --> 01:14:58,000
to do as far as organization as you as

1909
01:14:58,000 --> 01:14:59,360
you heard. We don't have that committee

1910
01:14:59,360 --> 01:15:02,000
set up yet, invitations or anything like

1911
01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,800
that, but we're hoping talking to Val

1912
01:15:04,800 --> 01:15:06,960
today and Corey and Alexi and we were

1913
01:15:06,960 --> 01:15:08,719
thinking uh we're going to get started

1914
01:15:08,719 --> 01:15:11,040
in June.

1915
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:12,480
>> Great.

1916
01:15:12,480 --> 01:15:13,280
Melissa,

1917
01:15:13,280 --> 01:15:14,560
>> I keep saying we're starting in June.

1918
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:16,560
Maybe we need to start some stuff later.

1919
01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:16,880
>> Yeah,

1920
01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:19,840
>> but everything

1921
01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:22,640
in June. We'll see. We're we're moving

1922
01:15:22,640 --> 01:15:23,920
forward on a lot of things, but we're

1923
01:15:23,920 --> 01:15:25,760
hoping to get that master plan review

1924
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:27,600
started.

1925
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,040
>> Bill, did you

1926
01:15:29,040 --> 01:15:30,800
>> I will comment. It's good to see all the

1927
01:15:30,800 --> 01:15:33,760
sidewalk repairs coming in and being um

1928
01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,000
considered and move forward on. There's

1929
01:15:36,000 --> 01:15:37,840
a lot of the elderly people that move

1930
01:15:37,840 --> 01:15:41,040
around town and I literally had one fall

1931
01:15:41,040 --> 01:15:43,199
outside my house. You know, luckily I

1932
01:15:43,199 --> 01:15:45,120
saw her. She had three dogs and I was

1933
01:15:45,120 --> 01:15:48,239
able to help the poor gal. But um yeah,

1934
01:15:48,239 --> 01:15:49,840
it's good to see the sidewalks being

1935
01:15:49,840 --> 01:15:52,080
worked on for sure. Appreciate that.

1936
01:15:52,080 --> 01:15:54,159
>> And and we budget we'll keep budgeting

1937
01:15:54,159 --> 01:15:56,080
until we get them done.

1938
01:15:56,080 --> 01:15:57,760
>> We do have it in your budget. Misa, do

1939
01:15:57,760 --> 01:15:59,120
you want to add anything? As the

1940
01:15:59,120 --> 01:16:00,800
economic development person for the

1941
01:16:00,800 --> 01:16:01,600
county,

1942
01:16:01,600 --> 01:16:03,920
>> I have nothing to add. Corey has shared

1943
01:16:03,920 --> 01:16:06,560
some thoughts and some interesting ideas

1944
01:16:06,560 --> 01:16:08,560
and all of them make me excited. So, I'm

1945
01:16:08,560 --> 01:16:10,800
just excited for this to move forward.

1946
01:16:10,800 --> 01:16:11,920
>> You'll definitely be a part of the

1947
01:16:11,920 --> 01:16:14,480
process.

1948
01:16:14,480 --> 01:16:17,120
>> Um, all right. Anything else about the

1949
01:16:17,120 --> 01:16:19,679
downtown plan?

1950
01:16:19,679 --> 01:16:21,760
>> I appreciate the seat at the table.

1951
01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:24,000
>> Oh, appreciate being able to collaborate

1952
01:16:24,000 --> 01:16:24,719
with this. So,

1953
01:16:24,719 --> 01:16:27,760
>> Oh, no. You have to be

1954
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:29,760
all of these items. We want you I mean,

1955
01:16:29,760 --> 01:16:31,600
this is what this is about is all these

1956
01:16:31,600 --> 01:16:33,600
items. we want you guys to participate

1957
01:16:33,600 --> 01:16:36,239
in. And the last one on economic

1958
01:16:36,239 --> 01:16:39,120
development is the golf course, which is

1959
01:16:39,120 --> 01:16:41,679
um is kind of an interesting one because

1960
01:16:41,679 --> 01:16:43,920
to be honest with you, this city council

1961
01:16:43,920 --> 01:16:45,520
hasn't really talked about the golf

1962
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:47,760
course even though we own the land and

1963
01:16:47,760 --> 01:16:49,679
it's a great asset for us and it just

1964
01:16:49,679 --> 01:16:52,320
kind of came up a year or so ago. There

1965
01:16:52,320 --> 01:16:54,560
were some problems. The golf course was

1966
01:16:54,560 --> 01:16:56,080
not, you know, was everybody was

1967
01:16:56,080 --> 01:16:58,400
worried. The grass was dying. The the

1968
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:01,199
greens were bad. And luckily they were

1969
01:17:01,199 --> 01:17:03,280
able to turn that around and it actually

1970
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:06,719
put them on our, you know, um, it

1971
01:17:06,719 --> 01:17:08,320
started making us pay a little closer

1972
01:17:08,320 --> 01:17:11,280
attention to how we can support the golf

1973
01:17:11,280 --> 01:17:17,199
course. And then the county gave them a grant, I believe, to start helping

1974
01:17:17,199 --> 01:17:20,159
them move forward to how we can really

1975
01:17:20,159 --> 01:17:22,320
make that asset the best asset that it

1976
01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:25,120
could be. And I Which one of you two

1977
01:17:25,120 --> 01:17:26,480
wants to start this conversation?

1978
01:17:26,480 --> 01:17:27,920
Because I know Melissa's been involved

1979
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:30,000
and I know Michael's been involved. We

1980
01:17:30,000 --> 01:17:33,120
did get a signed lease from them. We had

1981
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:36,080
just so commissioners understand we had

1982
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:39,760
a lease that expired. It was not a good

1983
01:17:39,760 --> 01:17:41,520
lease. I think it was I mean basically

1984
01:17:41,520 --> 01:17:44,320
we lease the golf course the to the golf

1985
01:17:44,320 --> 01:17:47,360
club or not much.

1986
01:17:47,360 --> 01:17:48,640
>> I don't even think we've ever

1987
01:17:48,640 --> 01:17:50,640
>> Oh, it's nothing. It's zero. It's

1988
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:52,320
absolutely nothing. In fact, it's

1989
01:17:52,320 --> 01:17:54,000
subsidized a little bit and I can

1990
01:17:54,000 --> 01:17:57,360
explain that. But um Melissa was working

1991
01:17:57,360 --> 01:18:01,760
with them on their on their plan. So

1992
01:18:01,760 --> 01:18:03,303
did you want to say anything about this?

1993
01:18:03,303 --> 01:18:04,320
[laughter]

1994
01:18:04,320 --> 01:18:07,120
So how we sort of came together is that

1995
01:18:07,120 --> 01:18:09,360
the lease piece was up in the air and

1996
01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:11,679
there were kind of some challenges and

1997
01:18:11,679 --> 01:18:14,719
they approached the county about a grant

1998
01:18:14,719 --> 01:18:16,480
to be able to put together a whole

1999
01:18:16,480 --> 01:18:18,800
business plan. So, a master plan, golf

2000
01:18:18,800 --> 01:18:22,159
architecture, economic feasibility plan,

2001
01:18:22,159 --> 01:18:24,320
what it would bring to primarily use as

2002
01:18:24,320 --> 01:18:27,199
a fundraising document to be able to

2003
01:18:27,199 --> 01:18:29,440
revamp and completely create something

2004
01:18:29,440 --> 01:18:32,080
new there. And how Michael and I started

2005
01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:34,080
talking about it is it doesn't make a

2006
01:18:34,080 --> 01:18:35,840
lot of sense to be able to help them put

2007
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,080
that feasibility study together to be

2008
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:39,760
able to raise funding to improve

2009
01:18:39,760 --> 01:18:41,600
something if there isn't a really good

2010
01:18:41,600 --> 01:18:44,159
relationship and agreement in place that

2011
01:18:44,159 --> 01:18:46,080
would allow them to long-term do that on

2012
01:18:46,080 --> 01:18:48,560
behalf of the city. So it was sort of

2013
01:18:48,560 --> 01:18:50,320
that's how the city and the county came

2014
01:18:50,320 --> 01:18:51,600
together on that.

2015
01:18:51,600 --> 01:18:52,000
>> Right.

2016
01:18:52,000 --> 01:18:53,920
>> And it was a really great engagement and

2017
01:18:53,920 --> 01:18:55,840
helped us move forward to be able to fix

2018
01:18:55,840 --> 01:18:57,520
I think a few different things.

2019
01:18:57,520 --> 01:18:59,760
>> Yeah. and and the the lease we had

2020
01:18:59,760 --> 01:19:02,080
before was was m there's a lot of things

2021
01:19:02,080 --> 01:19:04,239
missing in it and I and I think on both

2022
01:19:04,239 --> 01:19:06,320
sides there were questions. So, we're

2023
01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:08,400
really happy to have a a new lease

2024
01:19:08,400 --> 01:19:09,920
that's going forward. We're going to

2025
01:19:09,920 --> 01:19:12,800
propose 15 years because we think that's

2026
01:19:12,800 --> 01:19:15,040
how solid this lease is and they've had

2027
01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:16,640
it for so long anyways. They're probably

2028
01:19:16,640 --> 01:19:18,640
going to be there for another who knows

2029
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:21,360
how long. Um but uh we're really happy

2030
01:19:21,360 --> 01:19:23,120
with the relationship we have with the

2031
01:19:23,120 --> 01:19:25,440
golf course and we're really um

2032
01:19:25,440 --> 01:19:28,960
satisfied and and definitely

2033
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:31,440
um thankful for the opportunity through

2034
01:19:31,440 --> 01:19:33,360
the county to for them to get some money

2035
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:35,840
to do a master plan because when I was

2036
01:19:35,840 --> 01:19:38,800
talking to them a year or so ago, they

2037
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:40,320
said, "Well, we need money." And I asked

2038
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:41,440
them, "Well, what for?" And they said,

2039
01:19:41,440 --> 01:19:45,360
"Well, just stuff." And and we and I

2040
01:19:45,360 --> 01:19:47,199
know they need stuff. They weren't I

2041
01:19:47,199 --> 01:19:49,920
mean they weren't joking but but in

2042
01:19:49,920 --> 01:19:53,040
reality um the city and the county

2043
01:19:53,040 --> 01:19:55,040
really need to know where the money is

2044
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:56,960
going and how it's being spent and that

2045
01:19:56,960 --> 01:19:58,960
it's going for good uses and that is

2046
01:19:58,960 --> 01:20:01,760
going to um build the golf course so

2047
01:20:01,760 --> 01:20:03,440
that it can make more money going into

2048
01:20:03,440 --> 01:20:05,280
the future. Really quick about the

2049
01:20:05,280 --> 01:20:06,800
relationship with the golf course and

2050
01:20:06,800 --> 01:20:08,719
the city. The golf course has been

2051
01:20:08,719 --> 01:20:11,199
leasing um the city has been leasing the

2052
01:20:11,199 --> 01:20:14,400
golf club golf course for a long time, a

2053
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:17,440
very long time. Um, we don't charge

2054
01:20:17,440 --> 01:20:19,920
anything for the golf course for the

2055
01:20:19,920 --> 01:20:21,679
lease unless the golf course makes

2056
01:20:21,679 --> 01:20:23,679
money. And as long as I've been here,

2057
01:20:23,679 --> 01:20:26,159
I've never seen anything come in uh to

2058
01:20:26,159 --> 01:20:28,480
the city. And we do have them submit

2059
01:20:28,480 --> 01:20:31,280
financials every year. Um, we also

2060
01:20:31,280 --> 01:20:37,920
provide them with uh cheaper water as a um a partner of the city, but

2061
01:20:37,920 --> 01:20:40,320
they've also agreed to not use water

2062
01:20:40,320 --> 01:20:43,040
from our wells during periods of time.

2063
01:20:43,040 --> 01:20:45,199
So, there's a little bit of a tradeoff.

2064
01:20:45,199 --> 01:20:46,880
um because they have access to other

2065
01:20:46,880 --> 01:20:48,320
water during the summer and things like

2066
01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:51,360
that. So, so we we think we um are

2067
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:52,880
working really well together. We're look

2068
01:20:52,880 --> 01:20:54,480
really happy that they've got a good

2069
01:20:54,480 --> 01:20:56,880
superintendent up there and that their

2070
01:20:56,880 --> 01:20:59,280
management is going well and that uh

2071
01:20:59,280 --> 01:21:01,360
people are generally happy. I don't hear

2072
01:21:01,360 --> 01:21:06,560
about when I get my haircut anymore. So, things seem to be going well and

2073
01:21:06,560 --> 01:21:09,040
we'll keep working on it.

2074
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:12,400
excited for the planning the uh plan

2075
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:13,840
grant that you gave them and what the

2076
01:21:13,840 --> 01:21:15,520
outcome is for that. And we're going to

2077
01:21:15,520 --> 01:21:16,640
participate a little bit.

2078
01:21:16,640 --> 01:21:19,920
>> Oh yes. Uh we are also participating

2079
01:21:19,920 --> 01:21:22,800
um with I think $25,000 I think is what

2080
01:21:22,800 --> 01:21:25,440
it is. And then we're also helping them

2081
01:21:25,440 --> 01:21:27,440
to purchase a few other things up there.

2082
01:21:27,440 --> 01:21:30,000
And in signing this lease, it also opens

2083
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:33,840
the uh the golf course to access to some

2084
01:21:33,840 --> 01:21:37,520
capital uh that the council has budgeted

2085
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:40,880
that they would pay back over time

2086
01:21:40,880 --> 01:21:44,480
>> and the RF the master plan RFP went out

2087
01:21:44,480 --> 01:21:48,800
and we have responses, correct? Two full

2088
01:21:48,800 --> 01:21:51,920
proposals. Um, so they'll be making that

2089
01:21:51,920 --> 01:21:55,280
decision soon and we've included those

2090
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:57,520
proposals in the packet for today if

2091
01:21:57,520 --> 01:21:59,120
anyone wants those

2092
01:21:59,120 --> 01:22:00,880
>> great access.

2093
01:22:00,880 --> 01:22:02,159
>> And I'm assuming you're going to be

2094
01:22:02,159 --> 01:22:05,600
working with the board

2095
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,320
>> to help help them because this is new

2096
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:09,199
for them.

2097
01:22:09,199 --> 01:22:11,679
>> They're all about golfing.

2098
01:22:11,679 --> 01:22:13,520
Well, and I think I mean that's the

2099
01:22:13,520 --> 01:22:14,960
decision that needs to be made. And

2100
01:22:14,960 --> 01:22:16,239
before I started working on this

2101
01:22:16,239 --> 01:22:18,800
project, I had no idea that there's

2102
01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:21,440
actually a point at which a golf course

2103
01:22:21,440 --> 01:22:25,679
to be able to repair it becomes uh

2104
01:22:25,679 --> 01:22:28,480
impossible to repair cost effectively.

2105
01:22:28,480 --> 01:22:30,320
So, you finally get to a decision-m

2106
01:22:30,320 --> 01:22:31,679
point where you have to decide, do we

2107
01:22:31,679 --> 01:22:33,040
want a golf course or don't we want a

2108
01:22:33,040 --> 01:22:35,920
golf course? And ours is really close to

2109
01:22:35,920 --> 01:22:37,360
that tipping point. So, then the

2110
01:22:37,360 --> 01:22:39,679
question becomes, what is it? Do we just

2111
01:22:39,679 --> 01:22:41,199
want to keep it on autopilot and

2112
01:22:41,199 --> 01:22:42,800
maintain it till we get to that tipping

2113
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:45,040
point or do we want to put it in a place

2114
01:22:45,040 --> 01:22:46,800
where we have a strategic vision for it

2115
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:48,800
so that we want to invest and kind of

2116
01:22:48,800 --> 01:22:50,960
feels like that's the direction that

2117
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:52,880
people are interested in moving in. So

2118
01:22:52,880 --> 01:22:55,440
yes, working really closely with them

2119
01:22:55,440 --> 01:22:57,280
and with the city to be able to help

2120
01:22:57,280 --> 01:22:59,679
them get the best plan possible. And

2121
01:22:59,679 --> 01:23:01,440
they're even in their economic

2122
01:23:01,440 --> 01:23:03,280
feasibility study which is going to be

2123
01:23:03,280 --> 01:23:04,719
really great. they're going to break

2124
01:23:04,719 --> 01:23:06,400
that down to say here's what the

2125
01:23:06,400 --> 01:23:08,239
specific impact is going to be on the

2126
01:23:08,239 --> 01:23:10,560
city economically if we invest in this

2127
01:23:10,560 --> 01:23:12,080
asset and here's what it's going to be

2128
01:23:12,080 --> 01:23:13,600
for the county if we invest in the

2129
01:23:13,600 --> 01:23:15,520
asset. So we just wanted to take a

2130
01:23:15,520 --> 01:23:17,920
really partnership forward approach from

2131
01:23:17,920 --> 01:23:20,080
the beginning about kind of what's in it

2132
01:23:20,080 --> 01:23:22,239
for everyone so that we can all step in

2133
01:23:22,239 --> 01:23:25,280
and help support them. It's great. I'm

2134
01:23:25,280 --> 01:23:26,159
excited about that.

2135
01:23:26,159 --> 01:23:27,120
>> Yeah.

2136
01:23:27,120 --> 01:23:28,000
>> Yes. Brian.

2137
01:23:28,000 --> 01:23:30,000
>> Yeah. I know that and I think two

2138
01:23:30,000 --> 01:23:31,440
reasons you know the golf course is

2139
01:23:31,440 --> 01:23:32,800
important. You know, we've talked about

2140
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:34,400
the economic driver and you know,

2141
01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:36,639
believe it or not, Utah does have some

2142
01:23:36,639 --> 01:23:38,960
great municipal courts courses and there

2143
01:23:38,960 --> 01:23:40,159
are people that go and they travel

2144
01:23:40,159 --> 01:23:42,000
around to go see these municipal

2145
01:23:42,000 --> 01:23:43,600
courses, but also for the residents. I

2146
01:23:43,600 --> 01:23:48,000
know there's a lot of folks here uh that enjoy going out there and recre

2147
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:50,960
golf course. So, it's it's it's twofold.

2148
01:23:50,960 --> 01:23:54,239
>> Y any other comments? I'm a golf course.

2149
01:23:54,239 --> 01:23:55,360
Yes, Bill.

2150
01:23:55,360 --> 01:23:57,199
>> I would like to just know some of those

2151
01:23:57,199 --> 01:23:59,520
numbers moving forward. I don't golf.

2152
01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:02,159
So, the most I've ever done is gone out

2153
01:24:02,159 --> 01:24:04,239
and watched the turkeys, right? Because

2154
01:24:04,239 --> 01:24:06,480
they're all over out there. But, um,

2155
01:24:06,480 --> 01:24:08,960
what are the numbers? How many locals?

2156
01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,040
What's the percentage you compared to

2157
01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:12,800
tourism? What are we seeing out of it?

2158
01:24:12,800 --> 01:24:15,600
So, in the process that that would be

2159
01:24:15,600 --> 01:24:17,360
>> I think that's what information we're

2160
01:24:17,360 --> 01:24:18,719
trying to get because we've been trying

2161
01:24:18,719 --> 01:24:20,320
to get that and they don't really keep

2162
01:24:20,320 --> 01:24:21,920
track of it. It's just like there's a

2163
01:24:21,920 --> 01:24:23,520
lot,

2164
01:24:23,520 --> 01:24:25,280
>> you know. So, so we don't really get

2165
01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:26,480
those numbers and I think that's what

2166
01:24:26,480 --> 01:24:28,000
this study is going to show us so that

2167
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:29,520
we can build on that.

2168
01:24:29,520 --> 01:24:29,920
>> Great.

2169
01:24:29,920 --> 01:24:32,159
>> What's the timeline for that, Melissa?

2170
01:24:32,159 --> 01:24:35,360
>> They want to have the uh feasibility

2171
01:24:35,360 --> 01:24:37,840
study and architecture back by late

2172
01:24:37,840 --> 01:24:40,320
June. So, pretty quickly.

2173
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:40,800
>> Great.

2174
01:24:40,800 --> 01:24:42,320
>> And

2175
01:24:42,320 --> 01:24:43,199
say that again.

2176
01:24:43,199 --> 01:24:46,080
>> June.

2177
01:24:46,080 --> 01:24:47,920
>> That might that might be

2178
01:24:47,920 --> 01:24:49,199
>> that might be a little quick, but

2179
01:24:49,199 --> 01:24:49,920
>> start somewhere.

2180
01:24:49,920 --> 01:24:53,440
>> Yeah. But good to have lofty goals.

2181
01:24:53,440 --> 01:24:55,440
>> And I mean they've got some really

2182
01:24:55,440 --> 01:24:57,040
impressive I mean when you start to look

2183
01:24:57,040 --> 01:24:58,560
under the hood of the proposals

2184
01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:01,120
especially one of them there's some

2185
01:25:01,120 --> 01:25:03,360
pretty impressive architectural chops to

2186
01:25:03,360 --> 01:25:05,360
get a short course and some things that

2187
01:25:05,360 --> 01:25:09,830
would really make that course relevant.

2188
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:12,239
» Okay. So anything else about the golf

2189
01:25:12,239 --> 01:25:14,960
course? We're almost six minutes to our

2190
01:25:14,960 --> 01:25:18,880
adjournment. Um, and our last item is

2191
01:25:18,880 --> 01:25:22,960
um, water conservation. And I think uh,

2192
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:24,560
I don't know if I should have mentioned

2193
01:25:24,560 --> 01:25:26,480
this at the beginning. The housing task

2194
01:25:26,480 --> 01:25:28,000
force is not going to be presenting

2195
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:29,600
today. They they weren't ready to do

2196
01:25:29,600 --> 01:25:31,679
that. So, we're going to move uh, right

2197
01:25:31,679 --> 01:25:34,960
to our water conservation plans. And,

2198
01:25:34,960 --> 01:25:36,480
you know, I thought Mel and I thought

2199
01:25:36,480 --> 01:25:38,080
this was an important thing to add. We

2200
01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:40,880
kind of added it last because

2201
01:25:40,880 --> 01:25:43,360
as you all know, we've we've had great

2202
01:25:43,360 --> 01:25:46,159
rain the last week, but we're in a

2203
01:25:46,159 --> 01:25:49,600
drought and um very little snow in the

2204
01:25:49,600 --> 01:25:51,600
mountains this year. And we felt it was

2205
01:25:51,600 --> 01:25:53,280
important to show our community that

2206
01:25:53,280 --> 01:25:56,000
both the city and the county want our

2207
01:25:56,000 --> 01:25:59,360
community to voluntarily or I don't know

2208
01:25:59,360 --> 01:26:01,280
what you're Brian you're and Miles are

2209
01:26:01,280 --> 01:26:02,880
going to share with us what what the

2210
01:26:02,880 --> 01:26:05,280
county wants to do with GWISA but we

2211
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:08,960
just feel we needed to jointly share

2212
01:26:08,960 --> 01:26:10,960
be protective of your water. We need to

2213
01:26:10,960 --> 01:26:12,800
make sure that we don't have water

2214
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:14,480
issues in the future. So Brian if you

2215
01:26:14,480 --> 01:26:16,000
wouldn't mind just Sure. I'll start off

2216
01:26:16,000 --> 01:26:17,840
I've broken it down into three little

2217
01:26:17,840 --> 01:26:19,920
things. Okay. um starting off kind of

2218
01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:22,080
where Grand County is at second just

2219
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:24,400
some stats from the state and then third

2220
01:26:24,400 --> 01:26:27,520
of the call of the river in general. So

2221
01:26:27,520 --> 01:26:29,920
you know uh Grand as far as a couple of

2222
01:26:29,920 --> 01:26:33,440
things um uh so watersavers.com

2223
01:26:33,440 --> 01:26:34,880
I think is something that folks should

2224
01:26:34,880 --> 01:26:36,880
know about. Uh there's two things that

2225
01:26:36,880 --> 01:26:38,800
they can get there. One is there's a

2226
01:26:38,800 --> 01:26:41,199
smart controller rebate. So you can get

2227
01:26:41,199 --> 01:26:43,679
a a rebate for a controller that will

2228
01:26:43,679 --> 01:26:47,920
help um you know monitor your you're

2229
01:26:47,920 --> 01:26:50,320
putting out on your lawns. Um then also

2230
01:26:50,320 --> 01:26:51,840
if you already have one of those, make

2231
01:26:51,840 --> 01:26:54,320
sure that you set it to drop mode. Um

2232
01:26:54,320 --> 01:26:57,440
the other thing is is there's a a grant

2233
01:26:57,440 --> 01:27:00,560
now to replace your uh grass. So that's

2234
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:02,239
been passed both in the county and the

2235
01:27:02,239 --> 01:27:04,639
city. So anybody who wants to zero skate

2236
01:27:04,639 --> 01:27:07,360
can get a rebate for that grass right

2237
01:27:07,360 --> 01:27:10,000
there. Um a couple of the messages that

2238
01:27:10,000 --> 01:27:12,320
have been coming out the Yavapify

2239
01:27:12,320 --> 01:27:15,280
through is wait till Mother's Day to

2240
01:27:15,280 --> 01:27:16,560
begin watering.

2241
01:27:16,560 --> 01:27:21,199
>> Um If you could uh a little note, 60% of

2242
01:27:21,199 --> 01:27:24,400
uh of residential culinary water is

2243
01:27:24,400 --> 01:27:27,040
attributed to outdoor use. So that's

2244
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,199
water 60%.

2245
01:27:29,199 --> 01:27:30,880
So that's watering your lawn, your

2246
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:32,239
plants, your trees, and other

2247
01:27:32,239 --> 01:27:34,239
landscaping. Um, a couple of those

2248
01:27:34,239 --> 01:27:36,000
messages are, you know, just slight

2249
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:37,760
changes to your watering habits. You

2250
01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:39,760
know, like walking less frequently,

2251
01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:42,159
watering during cooler parts of the day

2252
01:27:42,159 --> 01:27:44,800
and choosing water wise landscape can

2253
01:27:44,800 --> 01:27:46,400
make a meaningful difference at the end

2254
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:49,280
of the year. So, um, couple of the the

2255
01:27:49,280 --> 01:27:52,480
bigger things, one is adopted the 2025

2256
01:27:52,480 --> 01:27:55,600
water conservation plan last October.

2257
01:27:55,600 --> 01:27:58,560
Um, that replaced the 2020 plan. Um, it

2258
01:27:58,560 --> 01:28:00,400
set its own goal to reduce water

2259
01:28:00,400 --> 01:28:04,719
consumption to 214 gallons per capacity

2260
01:28:04,719 --> 01:28:08,560
day. Uh which represents a 20% decrease

2261
01:28:08,560 --> 01:28:10,719
from the current state recommendation of

2262
01:28:10,719 --> 01:28:12,560
267.

2263
01:28:12,560 --> 01:28:15,280
Um however, currently uh we're actually

2264
01:28:15,280 --> 01:28:19,120
at 183 downloads per capacity date in

2265
01:28:19,120 --> 01:28:21,440
Grand County. So when we talk about all

2266
01:28:21,440 --> 01:28:23,520
the things that we need to do, I also

2267
01:28:23,520 --> 01:28:24,960
think that we need to give ourselves a

2268
01:28:24,960 --> 01:28:26,480
little bit of a pat on the back for what

2269
01:28:26,480 --> 01:28:28,400
we are doing.

2270
01:28:28,400 --> 01:28:32,239
Um the uh uh Grant County is working

2271
01:28:32,239 --> 01:28:35,199
water use and preservation element um to

2272
01:28:35,199 --> 01:28:37,679
go inside of the general plan. Uh that

2273
01:28:37,679 --> 01:28:39,840
element uh will go to public hearing

2274
01:28:39,840 --> 01:28:43,360
April 27th, 2026 and then it'll be

2275
01:28:43,360 --> 01:28:44,800
scheduled for a public hearing before

2276
01:28:44,800 --> 01:28:48,639
the county commission May 5th.

2277
01:28:48,639 --> 01:28:51,679
Um talking about Utah and kind of a

2278
01:28:51,679 --> 01:28:54,159
little bit about where we are. Uh, the

2279
01:28:54,159 --> 01:28:56,000
Division of Water Resources will be

2280
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:58,800
holding an online drought meeting on

2281
01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:02,239
Tuesday, April 21st at 91. If anybody's

2282
01:29:02,239 --> 01:29:03,760
interested, I can get you guys the link

2283
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:05,440
to that.

2284
01:29:05,440 --> 01:29:07,360
Yeah,

2285
01:29:07,360 --> 01:29:10,639
that's what I want. The uh uh one thing

2286
01:29:10,639 --> 01:29:12,080
that that's that's that's happening

2287
01:29:12,080 --> 01:29:14,560
right now is the lack of snow pack is

2288
01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:17,520
strongly influencing the water supply

2289
01:29:17,520 --> 01:29:25,760
forecast here and it's creating some real challenges in the runoff. uh model. So what you're seeing online

2290
01:29:25,760 --> 01:29:27,120
sometimes people are having trouble

2291
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:31,120
reading it and it's just because this is a precedent of our models aren't

2292
01:29:31,120 --> 01:29:34,159
built with the with the lack of snow map

2293
01:29:34,159 --> 01:29:37,199
path that we have. Um during March,

2294
01:29:37,199 --> 01:29:39,199
Utah's snow pack deteriorated from

2295
01:29:39,199 --> 01:29:42,320
borderline to record poor conditions,

2296
01:29:42,320 --> 01:29:44,719
two completely uncharted territories.

2297
01:29:44,719 --> 01:29:47,520
And this is from the uh uh USDA April

2298
01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:51,120
1st water supply, Utah division of water

2299
01:29:51,120 --> 01:29:53,520
resources. Just this close right here.

2300
01:29:53,520 --> 01:29:56,000
As opposed to last year's March pre

2301
01:29:56,000 --> 01:29:58,719
precipitation in Utah well above normal

2302
01:29:58,719 --> 01:30:01,760
at 146, the high pressure system

2303
01:30:01,760 --> 01:30:04,480
resulted in 550,000

2304
01:30:04,480 --> 01:30:07,679
acre feet loss uh in just over two

2305
01:30:07,679 --> 01:30:10,800
weeks. So um you know we went from bad

2306
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:13,199
to to to pretty bad.

2307
01:30:13,199 --> 01:30:17,040
um 64 of the 140 snowtail sites in the

2308
01:30:17,040 --> 01:30:20,560
state of Utah were completely melted out

2309
01:30:20,560 --> 01:30:22,320
uh on April 1st and that's the

2310
01:30:22,320 --> 01:30:26,880
historical peak snow package. So state

2311
01:30:26,880 --> 01:30:28,719
mountain this is this is where people I

2312
01:30:28,719 --> 01:30:30,159
think are getting a little bit confused

2313
01:30:30,159 --> 01:30:32,880
as well. So the state mountain soil

2314
01:30:32,880 --> 01:30:35,679
moisture levels are at 70%. And people

2315
01:30:35,679 --> 01:30:37,280
are thinking well that's great. Well,

2316
01:30:37,280 --> 01:30:42,000
that's it's because the snow mat snow pack has run off. So, same with our

2317
01:30:42,000 --> 01:30:43,280
reservoirs. We're looking at our

2318
01:30:43,280 --> 01:30:46,480
reservoirs which are currently at 69%

2319
01:30:46,480 --> 01:30:48,080
right now. And we're saying, well,

2320
01:30:48,080 --> 01:30:50,080
that's not that bad. And the reason is

2321
01:30:50,080 --> 01:30:51,760
because the snow melt has already come

2322
01:30:51,760 --> 01:30:53,040
down and being stored in these

2323
01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:56,719
reservoirs. Um,

2324
01:30:56,719 --> 01:30:59,520
moving on to the Colorado River. Um,

2325
01:30:59,520 --> 01:31:01,840
let's see here. And, and this number is

2326
01:31:01,840 --> 01:31:03,440
going to change is actually today that

2327
01:31:03,440 --> 01:31:05,600
they were supposed to have the DROA and

2328
01:31:05,600 --> 01:31:07,040
the

2329
01:31:07,040 --> 01:31:09,360
meeting today um give us a little bit

2330
01:31:09,360 --> 01:31:17,440
more information, but currently the uh projection is 4.4 acre feet. That's what we're supposed to receive as

2331
01:31:17,440 --> 01:31:20,080
far as hydraology goes. Um and that

2332
01:31:20,080 --> 01:31:22,560
leaves a 3.08

2333
01:31:22,560 --> 01:31:24,960
million acre feet gap when we got to

2334
01:31:24,960 --> 01:31:27,920
deliver compact this year. Um and that's

2335
01:31:27,920 --> 01:31:31,040
without the upper basin not fully any of

2336
01:31:31,040 --> 01:31:34,550
it als

2337
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:36,880
the the drill. So Dr. is the drought

2338
01:31:36,880 --> 01:31:39,679
response operation agreement. And so

2339
01:31:39,679 --> 01:31:42,560
what that is is when Lake Cow reaches

2340
01:31:42,560 --> 01:31:45,440
3525, that level above sea level right

2341
01:31:45,440 --> 01:31:47,440
there, um the drought resource

2342
01:31:47,440 --> 01:31:49,120
operations agreement is one of the

2343
01:31:49,120 --> 01:31:52,000
policies from the previous uh record of

2344
01:31:52,000 --> 01:31:55,040
decision goes into effect. uh they

2345
01:31:55,040 --> 01:31:57,520
manage for the infrastructure

2346
01:31:57,520 --> 01:32:00,639
um of the dam and so they're going to be

2347
01:32:00,639 --> 01:32:04,159
made along with the SEIS which is the

2348
01:32:04,159 --> 01:32:06,000
supplemental environmental impact

2349
01:32:06,000 --> 01:32:08,880
statement which uh talks about how much

2350
01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:12,159
water we can release out of the uh like

2351
01:32:12,159 --> 01:32:15,600
I said right now the um Colorado upper

2352
01:32:15,600 --> 01:32:18,800
basin is supposed to deliver 7.5 million

2353
01:32:18,800 --> 01:32:20,880
acre feet per year down to the lower

2354
01:32:20,880 --> 01:32:23,760
basin Um,

2355
01:32:23,760 --> 01:32:26,159
but that's over a 10-year period. So,

2356
01:32:26,159 --> 01:32:28,400
you know, 75 million over a 10-year

2357
01:32:28,400 --> 01:32:30,880
period. Right now, we're required,

2358
01:32:30,880 --> 01:32:33,280
depending on whose interpretation of

2359
01:32:33,280 --> 01:32:36,400
that you look at, 7.4 million acre feet

2360
01:32:36,400 --> 01:32:38,000
is what we're required to deliver

2361
01:32:38,000 --> 01:32:39,600
downstream.

2362
01:32:39,600 --> 01:32:41,920
Um,

2363
01:32:41,920 --> 01:32:45,040
DRO will be able to seis right now to

2364
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:46,320
say that we're actually going to lower

2365
01:32:46,320 --> 01:32:50,000
that to 6 million acre feet. So we' be

2366
01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:51,840
we'd be allowed to go down to six

2367
01:32:51,840 --> 01:32:54,639
million acre feet right there um for

2368
01:32:54,639 --> 01:32:56,560
that delivery. The second thing that

2369
01:32:56,560 --> 01:32:57,920
they'll look at so they'll look at the

2370
01:32:57,920 --> 01:32:59,760
downstream deliverables and they'll also

2371
01:32:59,760 --> 01:33:01,679
look at where they can pull water into

2372
01:33:01,679 --> 01:33:04,159
Lake Pal as well. Um and the reason that

2373
01:33:04,159 --> 01:33:05,679
they're looking at that it's it's not

2374
01:33:05,679 --> 01:33:10,800
really so much the power but it's the uh the delivery of water. So you know at

2375
01:33:10,800 --> 01:33:12,320
the turbines that's that's where the

2376
01:33:12,320 --> 01:33:14,560
water is supposed to come out. The uh

2377
01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:17,920
once we drop below 349 um the water will

2378
01:33:17,920 --> 01:33:20,080
have to the snowways off on the side and

2379
01:33:20,080 --> 01:33:22,639
those are not designed to deliver water

2380
01:33:22,639 --> 01:33:25,679
that way. Um so they're going to look at

2381
01:33:25,679 --> 01:33:27,360
that. The meeting that was supposed to

2382
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:31,440
happen today that got moved off to the

2383
01:33:31,440 --> 01:33:34,560
20th was going to answer the question of

2384
01:33:34,560 --> 01:33:37,520
utility. And so what that means is is

2385
01:33:37,520 --> 01:33:39,280
they're going to say, "Well, if we we

2386
01:33:39,280 --> 01:33:42,000
drop the flow down to six million and we

2387
01:33:42,000 --> 01:33:44,960
pour the water from Clay Gorge to to

2388
01:33:44,960 --> 01:33:47,280
replace that, does that even does that

2389
01:33:47,280 --> 01:33:49,840
even do anything?" Right? So if we even

2390
01:33:49,840 --> 01:33:51,600
follow the drought, you know, the the

2391
01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:53,679
drought plans that we have, will that

2392
01:33:53,679 --> 01:33:56,000
actually cause a big enough difference

2393
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:58,159
to go through all December? And so

2394
01:33:58,159 --> 01:33:59,760
that's that's supposed to be happening

2395
01:33:59,760 --> 01:34:03,440
on the 20th. Uh it's also has to do with

2396
01:34:03,440 --> 01:34:05,440
the timing of how that release is going

2397
01:34:05,440 --> 01:34:08,400
to happen. Um you know the releases will

2398
01:34:08,400 --> 01:34:11,760
be coming from Tw

2399
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:13,520
and one of the the reasons are is

2400
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:15,760
there's construction projects that are

2401
01:34:15,760 --> 01:34:19,600
happening both on Blue Mesa and N. So

2402
01:34:19,600 --> 01:34:20,800
we're not going to be seeing any

2403
01:34:20,800 --> 01:34:22,960
releases coming out those two residents

2404
01:34:22,960 --> 01:34:26,800
any large releases um that the drill put

2405
01:34:26,800 --> 01:34:29,440
down. Um those releases though are

2406
01:34:29,440 --> 01:34:32,080
scheduled for May. So, um, you know,

2407
01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:34,639
with that March out hydraology that we

2408
01:34:34,639 --> 01:34:36,800
have, we were originally looking at the

2409
01:34:36,800 --> 01:34:38,560
forecast that this would be October.

2410
01:34:38,560 --> 01:34:40,320
It's moved up to May, but we're actually

2411
01:34:40,320 --> 01:34:42,400
going to be seeing, uh, drone pulling

2412
01:34:42,400 --> 01:34:48,000
releases down from from Gorge. Uh, other

2413
01:34:48,000 --> 01:34:50,719
things is there's an EIS out right now.

2414
01:34:50,719 --> 01:34:52,960
The seven states were unable to come to

2415
01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:55,600
a agreement. And so right now we're

2416
01:34:55,600 --> 01:34:58,880
looking at one of the seven um you know

2417
01:34:58,880 --> 01:35:00,320
alternatives that the Bureau of

2418
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:03,360
Reclamation put out. Uh one that we're

2419
01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:04,800
really looking at is one of the

2420
01:35:04,800 --> 01:35:07,440
alternatives has a release down 4.5

2421
01:35:07,440 --> 01:35:10,719
million acre feet. Um

2422
01:35:10,719 --> 01:35:12,960
but either which way I think that that

2423
01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:14,800
we're that we're walking in pretty

2424
01:35:14,800 --> 01:35:17,199
uncharted territory. uh when you look at

2425
01:35:17,199 --> 01:35:21,280
the the the rule of law um you know uh a

2426
01:35:21,280 --> 01:35:23,760
compact or a treaty you know that that

2427
01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:26,000
kind of is up at the top and then below

2428
01:35:26,000 --> 01:35:27,840
that we're going to have your NEPAS and

2429
01:35:27,840 --> 01:35:29,760
your records of decision and then down

2430
01:35:29,760 --> 01:35:31,520
below that you're going to have policy

2431
01:35:31,520 --> 01:35:34,639
like your draw up or your SEIS u so

2432
01:35:34,639 --> 01:35:36,159
right now what we're actually looking at

2433
01:35:36,159 --> 01:35:39,280
is that the draw up or SEIS might make

2434
01:35:39,280 --> 01:35:43,280
us go into a contact uh on the Colorado

2435
01:35:43,280 --> 01:35:46,639
River and so it might be the bureau of

2436
01:35:46,639 --> 01:35:50,400
wreck puts us into a call from compact

2437
01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:52,560
river

2438
01:35:52,560 --> 01:35:55,120
starting maybe as

2439
01:35:55,120 --> 01:35:59,440
you know jaws like that um other things

2440
01:35:59,440 --> 01:36:02,480
that we had this year I hate to

2441
01:36:02,480 --> 01:36:04,159
interrupt you but I'm wondering if you

2442
01:36:04,159 --> 01:36:07,199
can share with us what some of the um

2443
01:36:07,199 --> 01:36:09,760
things that Gwissa is going to be asking

2444
01:36:09,760 --> 01:36:13,040
the community to do this year to kind of

2445
01:36:13,040 --> 01:36:16,320
help us manage with our situation

2446
01:36:16,320 --> 01:36:18,960
regards we're not in we're not in there

2447
01:36:18,960 --> 01:36:20,239
things that I kind of mentioned at the

2448
01:36:20,239 --> 01:36:22,000
beginning those were the things that was

2449
01:36:22,000 --> 01:36:24,960
looking at okay yeah I can finish miles

2450
01:36:24,960 --> 01:36:27,040
there's other things I don't know maybe

2451
01:36:27,040 --> 01:36:30,239
talk about wells or anything like that we were

2452
01:36:30,239 --> 01:36:31,679
>> No the main things I wanted to talk

2453
01:36:31,679 --> 01:36:33,280
about from a local standpoint is I

2454
01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:34,639
wanted to echo I mean you were very

2455
01:36:34,639 --> 01:36:38,159
thorough um I wanted to echo the

2456
01:36:38,159 --> 01:36:39,920
education portion of what we're asking

2457
01:36:39,920 --> 01:36:42,239
for our residents um particularly with

2458
01:36:42,239 --> 01:36:43,760
their use of culinary water in

2459
01:36:43,760 --> 01:36:47,280
irrigation So very much the watering at

2460
01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:49,520
cooler parts of the day or at night. And

2461
01:36:49,520 --> 01:36:51,600
also that in really tough drought years

2462
01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:54,239
like this, we need to look towards like

2463
01:36:54,239 --> 01:36:55,520
especially with lawns and stuff like

2464
01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:56,960
that, looking towards making them

2465
01:36:56,960 --> 01:36:58,880
survive the year rather than thrive

2466
01:36:58,880 --> 01:37:00,719
through the year. The understanding that

2467
01:37:00,719 --> 01:37:03,679
we don't all need super green lawns this

2468
01:37:03,679 --> 01:37:06,400
year. Um Obie mentioned at our our last

2469
01:37:06,400 --> 01:37:08,159
meeting that we're not seeing a drop in

2470
01:37:08,159 --> 01:37:10,080
wells right now and that's good. But

2471
01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:11,600
what we have to understand is this

2472
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:14,719
snowpack like we are not working off

2473
01:37:14,719 --> 01:37:16,880
this year's snow pack in our wells right

2474
01:37:16,880 --> 01:37:18,880
now. So this the consequences of this

2475
01:37:18,880 --> 01:37:21,440
dry season are coming for us later. So

2476
01:37:21,440 --> 01:37:23,520
it is our job to conserve now to be

2477
01:37:23,520 --> 01:37:25,840
prepared for those when they when they

2478
01:37:25,840 --> 01:37:29,360
do come. Um, now there are a couple

2479
01:37:29,360 --> 01:37:30,960
small things that Gwissa is doing in

2480
01:37:30,960 --> 01:37:33,280
regards to irrigation wells to fulfill

2481
01:37:33,280 --> 01:37:36,159
some of the needs of uh of the Moab

2482
01:37:36,159 --> 01:37:39,360
irrigation and um we can talk about that

2483
01:37:39,360 --> 01:37:41,280
at a later date. But um we are trying to

2484
01:37:41,280 --> 01:37:43,119
get a couple irrigation wells on and

2485
01:37:43,119 --> 01:37:45,280
basically now that they have opened up

2486
01:37:45,280 --> 01:37:48,080
irrigation they are currently running

2487
01:37:48,080 --> 01:37:52,320
wells to bolster that supply because the

2488
01:37:52,320 --> 01:37:55,679
lake is already at such a low level.

2489
01:37:55,679 --> 01:37:57,840
>> Thanks. Um, Brian, I didn't mean to cut

2490
01:37:57,840 --> 01:38:00,000
you off, but stuff you're saying is kind

2491
01:38:00,000 --> 01:38:05,600
of scary and you know, I guess the the question

2492
01:38:05,600 --> 01:38:08,000
is like, did the Colorado peak already

2493
01:38:08,000 --> 01:38:08,719
for us?

2494
01:38:08,719 --> 01:38:09,040
>> Yes.

2495
01:38:09,040 --> 01:38:10,400
>> For us river runners,

2496
01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:12,000
>> like I just like I just said, the

2497
01:38:12,000 --> 01:38:13,119
modeling

2498
01:38:13,119 --> 01:38:15,600
>> the modeling was very difficult because

2499
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:18,159
we're in uncharted territory. The models

2500
01:38:18,159 --> 01:38:20,320
weren't built. The models weren't built

2501
01:38:20,320 --> 01:38:24,239
>> to measure this Um, I'll give you on a

2502
01:38:24,239 --> 01:38:28,320
positive note, uh, we did HB 473 passed

2503
01:38:28,320 --> 01:38:31,520
this year um which is which was a big a

2504
01:38:31,520 --> 01:38:34,639
big thing for Grand County and San. So

2505
01:38:34,639 --> 01:38:37,600
um if you do run into Representative Chu

2506
01:38:37,600 --> 01:38:39,440
um he stuck on his neck out for Grand

2507
01:38:39,440 --> 01:38:42,639
County of course representative Alrech

2508
01:38:42,639 --> 01:38:45,600
and Senator Hinkens was the driving

2509
01:38:45,600 --> 01:38:49,280
force that we were

2510
01:38:49,280 --> 01:38:51,920
helpful in that legislation.

2511
01:38:51,920 --> 01:38:54,639
>> Thanks for your detailed explanation on

2512
01:38:54,639 --> 01:38:57,119
how what our situation is. But at the

2513
01:38:57,119 --> 01:38:58,800
same time, I think it's really important

2514
01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:01,280
for us to understand that because some

2515
01:39:01,280 --> 01:39:03,280
of us just take it to grant for granted

2516
01:39:03,280 --> 01:39:05,679
and we don't really know. So, it's

2517
01:39:05,679 --> 01:39:07,360
important for us to be paying attention.

2518
01:39:07,360 --> 01:39:09,600
So, thanks for your detail. Alexi, do

2519
01:39:09,600 --> 01:39:11,520
you want to just give us a briefing on

2520
01:39:11,520 --> 01:39:14,400
what the city's going to be

2521
01:39:14,400 --> 01:39:14,880
doing?

2522
01:39:14,880 --> 01:39:16,320
>> Joan, Mike did have a comment.

2523
01:39:16,320 --> 01:39:17,520
>> Oh, sorry, Mike. Go ahead.

2524
01:39:17,520 --> 01:39:19,520
>> You're okay. Uh, in speaking about those

2525
01:39:19,520 --> 01:39:22,239
river runners, I want everyone to know I

2526
01:39:22,239 --> 01:39:24,400
have been uh capping the river every

2527
01:39:24,400 --> 01:39:27,040
night. It peaked three days ago. We are

2528
01:39:27,040 --> 01:39:28,960
down an inch from three days ago.

2529
01:39:28,960 --> 01:39:31,119
>> No kidding.

2530
01:39:31,119 --> 01:39:34,080
>> Go back up though.

2531
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:35,760
>> Because we got snow. Okay, I'll do the

2532
01:39:35,760 --> 01:39:38,000
very quick version there. There are

2533
01:39:38,000 --> 01:39:40,239
visuals that I can share, but um

2534
01:39:40,239 --> 01:39:42,480
essentially the city has also been

2535
01:39:42,480 --> 01:39:44,320
thinking about it. We adopted a water

2536
01:39:44,320 --> 01:39:46,639
shortage response plan. Since a lot of

2537
01:39:46,639 --> 01:39:49,199
our water comes from wells and springs,

2538
01:39:49,199 --> 01:39:50,719
we're not triggering that, but we can

2539
01:39:50,719 --> 01:39:52,239
still do a lot of the voluntary measures

2540
01:39:52,239 --> 01:39:54,080
that are in it. That includes things

2541
01:39:54,080 --> 01:39:56,960
like monitoring, fixing leaks, uh

2542
01:39:56,960 --> 01:39:59,520
looking at operational water that's used

2543
01:39:59,520 --> 01:40:03,199
within like hotels or using water to

2544
01:40:03,199 --> 01:40:05,040
clean vehicles or pavement, ways that we

2545
01:40:05,040 --> 01:40:07,760
can save uh how we fill swimming pools

2546
01:40:07,760 --> 01:40:12,080
or run water features. And then as uh

2547
01:40:12,080 --> 01:40:14,159
we were talking about as well, like a

2548
01:40:14,159 --> 01:40:15,840
lot of that water is used in outdoor in

2549
01:40:15,840 --> 01:40:17,440
the landscape and the way we water

2550
01:40:17,440 --> 01:40:20,159
things. Um so paying attention to times

2551
01:40:20,159 --> 01:40:21,520
that people are watering, what they're

2552
01:40:21,520 --> 01:40:23,679
watering, prioritizing trees over lawns

2553
01:40:23,679 --> 01:40:27,440
or annuals, um and minimizing what we're

2554
01:40:27,440 --> 01:40:30,080
using until it's absolutely necessary.

2555
01:40:30,080 --> 01:40:33,119
Uh we are also working on doing an

2556
01:40:33,119 --> 01:40:35,600
outreach campaign starting from now and

2557
01:40:35,600 --> 01:40:36,719
running through the end of summer

2558
01:40:36,719 --> 01:40:38,320
because we anticipate that this might be

2559
01:40:38,320 --> 01:40:41,040
hanging around for a while. Uh doing

2560
01:40:41,040 --> 01:40:43,199
press releases, social media, reminding

2561
01:40:43,199 --> 01:40:44,320
people about some of those state

2562
01:40:44,320 --> 01:40:46,960
programs you were talking about. Uh

2563
01:40:46,960 --> 01:40:48,719
giving people some tips about how to do

2564
01:40:48,719 --> 01:40:51,199
things, hosting trainings to help people

2565
01:40:51,199 --> 01:40:53,119
who need assistance figuring out how to

2566
01:40:53,119 --> 01:40:54,880
change irrigation systems or things like

2567
01:40:54,880 --> 01:40:57,920
that. Um, and then kind of wrapping it

2568
01:40:57,920 --> 01:41:00,560
up in September and hopefully we see a

2569
01:41:00,560 --> 01:41:02,800
little water before then.

2570
01:41:02,800 --> 01:41:04,239
>> All right. So, there will be some

2571
01:41:04,239 --> 01:41:05,760
information coming out to the community.

2572
01:41:05,760 --> 01:41:07,760
I believe what we're doing is just city

2573
01:41:07,760 --> 01:41:10,080
residents. I don't know if the if GWISA

2574
01:41:10,080 --> 01:41:12,400
plans to put something out there for the

2575
01:41:12,400 --> 01:41:14,800
county or how you guys want to

2576
01:41:14,800 --> 01:41:18,000
>> use so they they actually have a program

2577
01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:20,400
that will go ahead and talk.

2578
01:41:20,400 --> 01:41:21,280
>> Okay. Very good.

2579
01:41:21,280 --> 01:41:22,960
>> Messaging system.

2580
01:41:22,960 --> 01:41:24,560
>> That's great. which helps people

2581
01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:27,600
especially with identifying leaks,

2582
01:41:27,600 --> 01:41:30,800
right? All the you know the things that

2583
01:41:30,800 --> 01:41:32,639
you can do finding and making sure that

2584
01:41:32,639 --> 01:41:35,840
your infrastructure is is is topnotch is

2585
01:41:35,840 --> 01:41:39,600
probably so

2586
01:41:39,600 --> 01:41:42,159
>> the city is also it is now our turn to

2587
01:41:42,159 --> 01:41:43,679
update our water conservation plan.

2588
01:41:43,679 --> 01:41:45,760
We'll be checking out what is and doing

2589
01:41:45,760 --> 01:41:46,719
that this year

2590
01:41:46,719 --> 01:41:48,639
>> and that would be a great Has the city

2591
01:41:48,639 --> 01:41:50,480
done that in the past that that sort of

2592
01:41:50,480 --> 01:41:52,080
direct communication with our water

2593
01:41:52,080 --> 01:41:54,480
users

2594
01:41:54,480 --> 01:41:56,000
>> through billing and I mean I know

2595
01:41:56,000 --> 01:41:58,159
sometimes we get messages on our billing

2596
01:41:58,159 --> 01:42:00,239
>> like if they notice leaks or other

2597
01:42:00,239 --> 01:42:02,239
things that are showing up in water use

2598
01:42:02,239 --> 01:42:03,600
then people are notified

2599
01:42:03,600 --> 01:42:05,440
>> but just general yes we have done

2600
01:42:05,440 --> 01:42:08,159
general and we're going to be doing

2601
01:42:08,159 --> 01:42:09,920
that's what we're looking at this year

2602
01:42:09,920 --> 01:42:12,320
is is uh all the opportunities that we

2603
01:42:12,320 --> 01:42:14,960
have to in front of people at all the

2604
01:42:14,960 --> 01:42:17,920
different venues and through mail and

2605
01:42:17,920 --> 01:42:19,760
dropping into hotels, restaurants,

2606
01:42:19,760 --> 01:42:20,400
things like that.

2607
01:42:20,400 --> 01:42:20,880
>> Great.

2608
01:42:20,880 --> 01:42:22,320
>> Okay.

2609
01:42:22,320 --> 01:42:25,119
>> Any other questions about water?

2610
01:42:25,119 --> 01:42:27,760
All right. More to come on this.

2611
01:42:27,760 --> 01:42:29,840
Anything else? We're at the end of our

2612
01:42:29,840 --> 01:42:32,320
agenda. Anything that anybody wants to

2613
01:42:32,320 --> 01:42:35,830
comment on?

2614
01:42:35,840 --> 01:42:36,960
» Yes, Mel.

2615
01:42:36,960 --> 01:42:39,040
>> I just want to comment that the date for

2616
01:42:39,040 --> 01:42:40,800
our next meeting is going to be August

2617
01:42:40,800 --> 01:42:43,040
18th. It said 81 19th on the agenda, but

2618
01:42:43,040 --> 01:42:46,880
it's they're going to be congruent um

2619
01:42:46,880 --> 01:42:48,400
congruent with our regular meeting,

2620
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:50,159
which is August 18th. And so we'll

2621
01:42:50,159 --> 01:42:52,400
probably start that around 2:30. Don't

2622
01:42:52,400 --> 01:42:53,760
quote me on that, but we'll start our

2623
01:42:53,760 --> 01:42:55,760
meeting a few hours early so that we can

2624
01:42:55,760 --> 01:42:57,440
do a joint meeting and then we'll move

2625
01:42:57,440 --> 01:42:58,880
into our regular county commission

2626
01:42:58,880 --> 01:43:00,000
meeting that day.

2627
01:43:00,000 --> 01:43:01,840
>> And Mel and I work together on that

2628
01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:05,520
agenda. And I just want to close with

2629
01:43:05,520 --> 01:43:07,920
anybody who's out there saying that the

2630
01:43:07,920 --> 01:43:10,639
city and the county don't work together.

2631
01:43:10,639 --> 01:43:13,280
I this is a unique meeting because we

2632
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haven't had one for a while. But there's

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a whole lot of other things that we do

2634
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work together on that that we didn't

2635
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talk about today. So I just kind of want

2636
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to end that myth that we are working

2637
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together and today is a good example of

2638
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how we're going to continue to work

2639
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together in the future. So with that,

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we're journ Oh.

2641
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>> Oh, sorry.

2642
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>> No. Again, I wanted to tell you two

2643
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specifically thank you uh for being the

2644
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leaders in uh setting setting this up. I

2645
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can't wait to national. Great. Thank

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you.

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>> All right. Thanks everyone. Have a great

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weekend. Thank you.