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Okay, I like to call to order this

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commission Grant County Commission

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meeting on April 21st

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at 4:00. In attendance we have

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Commissioner Trish Vadine, Commissioner

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Jacque Chandler,

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Commissioner Brian Martinez,

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Commissioner Mary McCann, Commissioner

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Mike McCurdy, Commissioner Bill

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Winfield, and myself, Commissioner

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Elodie McChallice, and with our County

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Attorney Steven Stocks, our Commission

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Administrator Mark Tyner,

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our Associate Commission Administrator

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Quinn is here, and then we also have our

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Clerk Auditor Gabriel Woitas.

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And we I just wanted to clear um

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a couple things information to the

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public

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is that the scene rezone

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has been postponed by the applicant, and

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number six on the agenda tonight also

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has been postponed. That's the

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development agreement with the Moab City

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for the water tank.

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All right. So, we'll go ahead and do the

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Pledge of Allegiance.

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I pledge allegiance to the flag

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of the United States of America, and to

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the republic for which it stands, one

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nation under God, indivisible, with

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liberty and justice for all.

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Okay, I was leaving a spot at the

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beginning of the meeting for our elected

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officials our other elected officials in

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case they wanted to pop in, but I don't

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see anybody

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here or online, so we'll move along to

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our 4:00 citizens to be heard. Is there

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anyone that would like to speak today?

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Next.

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Oh, come on, Allison.

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Is there a easy way to stand?

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You can sit or stand.

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It's up to you.

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Is the speaker um that little uh

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the rectangular box? Yeah. I can't see

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it from here, but that's the best you

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can do with the seating.

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All right. As usual, I am here to

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exercise my First Amendment rights to

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petition the government for a redress of

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grievances. I will very briefly note is

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that I've still not heard a response

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from Attorney Stocks on this matter, of

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which I think is a grave importance.

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Uh my comments today are going to be

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about the uh shuttle pilot uh summary

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that was released. I submitted these in

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writing. This will be an abbreviated of

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that. And um I think that the summary proposal or

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the summary basically proved the point

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that Commissioner McGinn was making was

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that it is not feasible to do a um

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shuttle bus system based on the cost.

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So, in other words, I have 3 million

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facts that I'm bringing to your

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attention. Basically, that is dollars.

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Commissioner McGinn's comments were what

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she saw was that it would cost $2.5

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million to do a study. Their their pilot

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has 3 million. That's a good 20% higher.

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include during the discussion last time

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is the number of people that it could

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potentially bring into the park and the

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number that it could uh displays. I used

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the very limited information in that

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summary of which two buses entering the

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park per hour with 15 maximum capacity

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of 15 each. That's a maximum of 30

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people per hour. That's for an 11-hour

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of which I believe time to tree was last

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year or that was the number I got off of

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total of 330 people a day. That would

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decrease 8.3 vehicles per hour using the

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National Park Service's factor of 2.9

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vehicles or people to per car. Is that

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going to make a difference? I don't

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think so. Uh National Park Service data

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says during the middle part of the day

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more than 800 vehicles are in the park

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um at a given time and that's during the

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uh um peak time. And also, what would be

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the cost of bringing people into into

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the park? If you use the $3 million, you

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use the two shuttle buses entering the

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park. I'm not talking about the other

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routes because in my opinion, what

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matters is the people it's bringing into

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the park. The number of people it's

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bringing into the park needs

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11 hours per day, full buses, which is

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not a reasonable assumption, uh and

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October, which was the ending date was

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not in the summary, would be $54.44

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cents per person to bring people into

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the park. If you they are 75% full,

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which is still quite full for a shuttle

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bus uh throughout the day, it's $72.58.

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uh run the buses 15 hours a day and then

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October it's dark for many of those

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hours, it only gets down to $39.92

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per day. The economics do not work.

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great? Yes, but there's a math problem

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which Mr. Martinez and Mr. Winfield have

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not surpassed. You cannot do it for a

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reasonable amount of money, particularly

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when you put it into perspective of

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what's known as OMPS funding, which is

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the MPS green book for 2025. Archer's

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green book funding was 2.55 million.

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system for 5 and 1/2 months serving

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about 55,000 people than it costs to run

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the entire park, including resource

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management, maintenance, and everything

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else for an entire year. Thank you.

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All right.

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Pete, did you want to come talk?

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My name is Pete Gross. I thought you

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knew that, but for the record.

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part of the last meeting.

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well, but backing up to this body sent a

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letter demanding that Laura Long resign

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from the planning commission because of

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a conflict of an alleged conflict of

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interest, even though she pledged and

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honored that pledge to recuse herself

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from any vote discussion relating to

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Cane Creek, now rebranded as Echo Canyon

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because Cane Creek has become a toxic

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name for the company.

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the interim zoning director, Chrissy

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Hauffline, at the planning commission

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meeting presented I I didn't know who

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she was. I happened to be at that

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meeting, and I listened. I thought,

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"Wow, that's pretty compelling arguments

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to deny the rezone of the Steen

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property."

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at the end of that discussion, the vote,

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if I remember correctly, was

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six to zero, six people opposed to the

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rezone, one abstention.

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subsequent to that, Chrissy Hauffline

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was removed from her position as zoning

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director, even though it was only an

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interim position, was going to only last

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a few more months. And you appointed a

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temporary guy who,

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you know, probably didn't have certainly

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not the breadth of experience that she

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did dealing with the issue.

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Uh what else? So, um

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pretty unanimous in opposition to the

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rezone for compelling reasons.

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reasons, and the planning commission,

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after you like um refused

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their unanimous slate of people to

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appoint to the commission. I remember

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Jen Ziadis was one of the ones that you

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replaced with somebody else.

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One of the most eminently qualified

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people in the whole community.

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all over the place here. I still haven't

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the ASL alternative,

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which, at the time at least,

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one of your commissioners who presented

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it claims to be the author. Seems like

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it was probably multiple people. Um did

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not recuse himself, even though at the

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time he was employed by a company who's

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concessionaire in Arch just

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regarding the shuttle, um

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one of your commissioners was happy

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would have happily served on that that

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board to with the shuttle pilot program

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recommendations, and was referred to as

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obstructionist.

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for someone who might be a reality

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check. For like, just as the previous

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commenter pointed out, it really doesn't

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make economic sense. And it seems to me

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that's the kind of voice you would want

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on on that board. Anyway, thank you for

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your time. I have 2 seconds left.

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mine, so we will move along

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our joint Moab. So, we had a joint Moab

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City Council and Grand County Commission

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meeting

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last Friday, and I was going to run down

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a recap of that, and then if there's

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anything that I missed, then any other

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commissioners could hop in and say

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first step in formalizing some

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collaboration between the city and the

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county on shared community issues. We

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touch [clears throat] on all of them,

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obviously. We just got a few there. So,

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the goal was to combine resources and

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ensure that we have consistent support

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for the community as a whole.

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Uh the first thing we talked about was

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the site futures plan. We had Sax and

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Sharp and Mary Bethan for that.

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the Amtra and futures site plan. It went

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through the last three different groups

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that have done that, and well, they're

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getting ready to do an additional

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plan on on that. And then there was We

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talked about We have a memorandum of of

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understanding between the city and the

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county right now, and it's kind of

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defunct, I guess you could say. And so,

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we definitely are going to be revisiting

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that as it gets closer to having the

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property transferred. Um the mayor did

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mention that as the land gets closer to

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transfer, that there was a possible

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grant for feasibility study for the site

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planning that could be like 1.2 to 2

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million dollars, and I think that that

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is something we'd want to work together

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talking with Amtra. Um there's been

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multiple commissioners here, as well as

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leadership from Amtra and the Department

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of Energy and other

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community members talking about the

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infrastructure that is out at Amtra

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right now and what we might want, and we

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will be bringing that before the

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commission on our May 19th meeting as a

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you know, just to let you guys know what

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we're going to ask for on that June 1st

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meeting.

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Then we moved on to economic

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development.

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The city talked about wanting to put a

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sidewalk between the liquor store and

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well, from

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the city limits, which is our general

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endpoint S out to the liquor store and

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Dan Hinckley from UDOT was there and he

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spoke about

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that they would pay for the curb and the

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gutter and the asphalt tie-in. The city,

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I think, mentioned that they would pay

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for the concrete for the sidewalks and

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they were asking the county to pay for

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the design. And so, I know that we have

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admin reaching out to research what that

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cost would be and that will come before

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us in the next few meetings.

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Talked about the senior about senior

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services

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and the Moab Area Partnership for

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Seniors project that I've been working

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on with the Council of Aging and the

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Canyonlands Healthcare Special Service

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District. We just put out a RFP for that

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design. There's also a

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um [clears throat]

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comprehensive elder adults

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older adults survey going around the

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community and that'd be great. We need

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to get as many people to fill that out.

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You fill it out for your friends, your

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neighbors, just someone and and even

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yourselves.

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Um even if you're not an older adult,

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we're going to all be there one day and

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so, it's we need to get that information

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because we can use this for future planning, future grants, future

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requests from the legislature for money

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for our community. So,

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um

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and then we talked about the downtown

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plan that has not been updated since

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2017.

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They're creating a multi-jurisdictional

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committee and so, they've asked the

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county to be have a seat at the table. I

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don't know which one of us commissioners

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will be there yet, but they're going to

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invite someone from tourism, the local

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business community and other, you know,

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roads, parking, other people to be part

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of that master plan for downtown.

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And then we also had an update on the

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golf course and what

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the RFPs that have gone out to

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do a master plan for the golf course.

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And that was paid for by the rural

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community grant from the county. And the

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city also donated $25,000 towards that.

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They got the lease signed at the golf

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course, which is great. I think it's a

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15-year lease, so

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that's a I think that's a first step.

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It's been a while since that lease has

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been updated, so that's a really good

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step to keep that golf course here for

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the community.

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And then our last conversation piece was

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the water conservation and the city

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talked about what they're planning for

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conservation. Of course, they're asking

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everybody to water in the mornings and

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the evenings and

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water to keep your grass alive, not

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thriving. So, alive not thriving this

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year. Water your trees. We are in a slow

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water year. And then Brian updated us on

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the water conservancy plan from Winter

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Park, which is very similar, and he also

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updated about water issues around the

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state regarding and regarding the

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Colorado River.

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So, anyways, this is a continued

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partnership, so the next meeting is

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going to be scheduled for August 18th

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here at the Grand County Commission.

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We'll start our meeting a little earlier

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that day.

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And that's all I have. So, does anyone

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else want to comment or yeah, add

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anything? Good. Good to know, Trisha.

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Thank you for host or setting that up.

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Yeah, I'll comment, Trisha. No. Okay.

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We're good.

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No, just I have future considerations

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when you get there.

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>> Okay, we're almost there. Yes. So, Thank

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you. Um, we are at yes, general business

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action items discussion and

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consideration and approval. So, number

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one is our commission member disclosures

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and future considerations.

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Mike? Uh, my wife works for the

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sheriff's department. Okay.

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Bill? Um, I've got several. Um, just a

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short clarification regarding a vote of

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the CIB. I was appointed to that board

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by SERDA. That's where my

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first obligation is is to the

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Southeastern Rural Development Agency

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that put me on that board rather than

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some confusion around the fact that it

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might have been a requirement as a

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commissioner. [laughter]

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Grand County's letter.

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Um number two, I've requested some open

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meeting training from the county

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attorney. There's um information going

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out mainly through social media that

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needs to be clarified.

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I don't believe um four or five

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commissioners showing up at the

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Christmas parade constitutes a quorum of

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a county meeting.

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Uh also, I've requested a memo from the

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county commissioner, excuse me, the

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county attorney regarding board liaison

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positions and and the difference between

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boards that we get appointed to

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by other entities. So, hopefully we'll

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see those in the future. And then the

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third item I'd like on the next agenda

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would be

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a letter [clears throat] of support that

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I would like to do for SITLA on the sale

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of a large block of land to the DWR

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up in the Book Cliffs. And possibly

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Commissioner Hedin might want to work on

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that with me. More than glad to do that,

427
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but it's a

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chunk of land that will

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protect it for the public and keep it in

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the public's hands into the future.

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It'll also support our school districts

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and it will

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Uh let's see. It's in a Book Cliffs road

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roadless area up there. So, we'd like to

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get a letter on that next one. Their

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meeting, I want to say, is

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following our meeting. So, a letter of

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support for the SITLA would be great to

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have before they go into their meeting

440
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on May 21st.

441
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That's all I've got.

442
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Okay.

443
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Thank you.

444
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Uh Brian was up then you

445
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>> Go ahead, Brian. I just started paying

446
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attention. I didn't raise my hand.

447
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Okay, I have clarification. So you said

448
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May 21st [clears throat]

449
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will be the day that the DEW arm meeting

450
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is? Yes, ma'am. Following our May 21st?

451
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Following our May I'm asking for it to

452
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be on the next May meeting. Oh, okay.

453
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That's right.

454
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That's it. That is the fifth. Okay.

455
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There I got a little Okay.

456
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Thank you for the clarification.

457
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>> [clears throat]

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>> Go ahead, Brian.

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Yeah, I'd just like to bring up that the

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I'd like to see the right-of-ways from

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the

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Spanish Valley pathway and continue to

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move that forward to see where that's

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at.

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I know I asked for this not this meeting

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but the meeting before to try to get

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some clarification and we're still

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waiting on that. So I'd like to see just

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a little bit I'd like to see where we're

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at with that right there. And then I'd

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also like to request at the next meeting

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that we have a quarterly financial

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report.

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Okay, the right-of-ways aren't ready

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yet. So that's why they're not hit on

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here.

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That's what I was told anyways.

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>> [laughter]

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>> Okay, Trish. Um so and and I know

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Melody that I reached out to you about

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this but I think a number of

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commissioners so Sam Wayner from CNHA

483
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has reached out to talk about the

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upgrading the bathrooms at the Moab

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Information Center and I I hopefully it

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is something we can broach sooner than

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later.

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And and I know anyways I just wanted to

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kind of put that out cuz I know I sent a

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email just to Mel but maybe he's talked

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to other commissioners about that.

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I do think we need to think about I was

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on a meeting this morning and maybe

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other commissioners were also with the

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water

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Utah Division of Water Resources with

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the water resource drought coordinator

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Laura Haskell. And one thing that she

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recommended was possibly considering a

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drought declaration at a county level.

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San Juan County has done that, and what

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that provides is just a it opens up some

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resources specifically for ranchers and

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farmers. So, it it if possible, and

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maybe I'm directing, I don't know, Mark

506
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to talk to Kate about that within

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emergency management. I would assume

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that would come out of her department.

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So, something to consider.

510
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I'm just looking into what it would it

511
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open up, but I definitely think it opens

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up quite a bit for

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farmers and ranchers. [clears throat]

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It's when the state makes the

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declaration, when the county makes the

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declaration, it was more for the

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awareness.

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>> you definitely does open up some stuff

519
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through UDAF.

520
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This also meeting.

521
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>> Oh, are you done, Ms. Trisha? Sorry. And

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then the last, and I know we've talked

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about this previously, and I actually

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think it somewhat dovetails on what I

525
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just talked about, but I know that Mary

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asked that we look into providing a

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moratorium on new applications within

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planning and zoning during the land use

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code update. And so, I'm going to just

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ask again that hopefully we're looking

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at that.

532
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You got it. Okay, thank you.

533
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Jock. I'd hate to be left out since

534
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we're all uh

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>> [laughter]

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>> Good night.

537
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>> For the future considerations, um I'd

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like to based on a couple of agenda

539
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items on this agenda and and previous

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ones, I'd like to consider rescinding

541
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the hiring freeze.

542
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Um

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because uh we haven't denied one yet. Um

544
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I think it's to the point where it's

545
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kind of placing undue stress on on staff

546
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to have to

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come in here and justify their um their

548
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hires when they're just kind of rolling

549
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through regular

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um

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regular replacement hires or or even

552
00:20:56,600 --> 00:21:00,880
grant-funded hires. So, it's uh seems

553
00:21:00,880 --> 00:21:03,440
like that might be a good idea.

554
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,640
We can talk about it later. Okay.

555
00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:08,720
Mary. I just want to reiterate. I do

556
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,760
really think it's important. It's been

557
00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:13,440
done in the past. It's done

558
00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:16,360
primary in almost every

559
00:21:16,360 --> 00:21:18,320
you know, many many counties and many

560
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:20,800
cities when they're doing an update to

561
00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:23,040
their land use or something they put a

562
00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,480
moratorium on applications.

563
00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:30,880
So that uh the applications will then

564
00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,560
uh

565
00:21:32,560 --> 00:21:34,080
when people have the applications will

566
00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,000
be under the new

567
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:39,680
they will be following the updated code.

568
00:21:39,680 --> 00:21:42,680
So are we asking for an agenda item to

569
00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,240
vote on this?

570
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,080
>> Well, I'd like some research and and I'd

571
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,000
like yeah, agenda item would be a good

572
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:50,015
idea. Or it's normal

573
00:21:50,015 --> 00:21:50,120
>> [clears throat]

574
00:21:50,120 --> 00:21:51,440
>> you know, I'm not how do I don't

575
00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,080
remember how we did it in the past. We

576
00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:55,080
have done it. We've done it twice in the

577
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:56,560
past.

578
00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,560
Once when we did uh

579
00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:01,480
when we're working on an an Well, what

580
00:22:01,480 --> 00:22:04,600
he's shaking his head no. There's been a couple different ones.

581
00:22:04,600 --> 00:22:06,600
>> Yeah, and and it's you know, especially

582
00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:10,000
where we're expediting this uh

583
00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:11,360
plan

584
00:22:11,360 --> 00:22:14,120
then I think it's you know, makes sense

585
00:22:14,120 --> 00:22:15,280
it would be

586
00:22:15,280 --> 00:22:17,560
to make sure we

587
00:22:17,560 --> 00:22:20,640
have our upcoming plans be underneath

588
00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:23,040
the new codes.

589
00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,240
I'm sure. Yes.

590
00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:26,600
Commissioners of course can put out

591
00:22:26,600 --> 00:22:29,120
agenda items on if they they'd like. Uh

592
00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:30,840
this might be something you may want to

593
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,680
look at parameters

594
00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:35,440
either workshop setting or a discussion

595
00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,000
setting might help uh ahead of time but

596
00:22:38,000 --> 00:22:39,480
if if the commissioners want to put that

597
00:22:39,480 --> 00:22:40,360
on,

598
00:22:40,360 --> 00:22:41,640
um it's probably going to take a little

599
00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,560
bit of time uh to talk to Andrew and try

600
00:22:44,560 --> 00:22:45,880
to see if Bart can come to the next

601
00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:47,880
meeting and and get everybody as much

602
00:22:47,880 --> 00:22:49,840
information as possible.

603
00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:50,560
Um

604
00:22:50,560 --> 00:22:52,080
so that's that's an option but if you

605
00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:53,760
guys put it on for an agenda item, it's

606
00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:56,360
just harder. So if if the commissioners

607
00:22:56,360 --> 00:22:58,640
want, I can look at Bart's schedule

608
00:22:58,640 --> 00:23:01,360
set a time and and have a meeting but

609
00:23:01,360 --> 00:23:03,440
I'm just trying to be helpful. Okay,

610
00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:08,160
I'll reach out with an email tomorrow to admin and you, Stephen.

611
00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:10,080
I just need to research it. Okay, yeah,

612
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,600
that'd be great. Sure. If I may, I just

613
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:13,880
if we're going to go to all the trouble

614
00:23:13,880 --> 00:23:15,480
to do all the research, then we need to

615
00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:18,080
put it on and have a vote.

616
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,280
Sure. But the only the only difference

617
00:23:20,280 --> 00:23:21,061
would be is

618
00:23:21,061 --> 00:23:21,360
>> [clears throat]

619
00:23:21,360 --> 00:23:24,080
>> it might be a bit of presentation heavy,

620
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:25,600
and so

621
00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:27,240
if you want to vote on the same day, you

622
00:23:27,240 --> 00:23:29,040
can, but if there are any it's usually a

623
00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,480
nightmare if we do a workshop and then

624
00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:33,600
make changes to the to whatever it is

625
00:23:33,600 --> 00:23:35,120
planned, and then to come back in a

626
00:23:35,120 --> 00:23:36,520
couple hours and do that. It's a lot of

627
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:39,360
work. If we do a workshop and we have

628
00:23:39,360 --> 00:23:40,800
success and people say, "Yeah, we want

629
00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:41,880
to do it."

630
00:23:41,880 --> 00:23:43,880
That might be better if we do the

631
00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:45,000
workshop and it doesn't seem like

632
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:46,800
there's as much interest, then maybe we

633
00:23:46,800 --> 00:23:48,440
don't do that or maybe we re-approach

634
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:50,440
it, so. Maybe we have it on on the

635
00:23:50,440 --> 00:23:52,000
agenda with

636
00:23:52,000 --> 00:23:54,560
knowledge that we might pull it. Sure.

637
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:55,920
Yeah, I'm going to stick with a workshop

638
00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,320
first and then we'll put it on the next

639
00:23:57,320 --> 00:23:59,200
agenda if we So, we'll just leave it

640
00:23:59,200 --> 00:24:01,320
with Okay. he'll send them an email from

641
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:02,760
Stephen and he'll set that up with Bart,

642
00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,000
figure out what

643
00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,440
We'll follow up from there. Do a mini class on on moratoriums, what

644
00:24:08,440 --> 00:24:10,480
options are and and then see what

645
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,760
different flavors are.

646
00:24:12,760 --> 00:24:13,960
Cuz they can only be there's there's

647
00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:15,120
some restrictions on how many times you

648
00:24:15,120 --> 00:24:17,000
can extend them. Six months, isn't that

649
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:18,600
the Yeah, I think we did a six month.

650
00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,480
That's what I think it is. Yeah. You can

651
00:24:20,480 --> 00:24:22,520
ask for an extension, but people you

652
00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,280
know, it's hard. Yeah.

653
00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:27,070
Six months is

654
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:29,480
which we would have would be plenty.

655
00:24:29,480 --> 00:24:31,920
Okay, we're going to move along. So, the

656
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,200
next one is approval of consent agenda

657
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,720
items.

658
00:24:35,720 --> 00:24:37,080
The approval of the meeting minutes for

659
00:24:37,080 --> 00:24:40,160
April 7th and April 17th, 2026.

660
00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,040
Ratification of the payment of bills,

661
00:24:42,040 --> 00:24:44,080
total bills of 2 million

662
00:24:44,080 --> 00:24:45,160
4

663
00:24:45,160 --> 00:24:46,480
2 million

664
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:48,120
4,423

665
00:24:48,120 --> 00:24:50,400
dollars and 11 cents. The total payroll

666
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,560
of 165,099

667
00:24:52,560 --> 00:24:54,600
dollars and 34 cents.

668
00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:56,280
So, the The bills and payroll is

669
00:24:56,280 --> 00:25:01,630
$2,169,522.35.

670
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:03,840
C is the ratification of exemption for

671
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:06,200
environmental review for a crossing

672
00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:09,600
phase four. D is the ratification of EMP

673
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:11,600
grant award letter for emergency

674
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,200
management.

675
00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,360
E is the ratification of Moab Office of

676
00:25:15,360 --> 00:25:18,720
Tourism logo logo over edge.

677
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,920
F is the ratification of letter of final

678
00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:23,960
payment invoice for the RCOG grant

679
00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:26,720
closeout for Ware Crossing.

680
00:25:26,720 --> 00:25:29,360
That's exciting. G letter of support

681
00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:30,920
from the Moab Office of Tourism

682
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:32,720
supporting the BLM's nomination of the

683
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:34,560
Poison Spider Mesa Trail as part of the

684
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:37,040
National Recreation Trail System.

685
00:25:37,040 --> 00:25:38,840
H is a contract with Certa for the

686
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:40,760
renewal of Grand County Small Business

687
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:42,840
Revolving Loan Fund Administration

688
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:44,240
Agreement.

689
00:25:44,240 --> 00:25:47,000
And I is the ratification of the ICA

690
00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,120
with Babcock Design for Public Safety

691
00:25:49,120 --> 00:25:51,600
Complex Feasibility Study.

692
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,480
Dock. Uh motion to presume uh motion to

693
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,080
approve consent agenda as presented.

694
00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:58,200
And Bill?

695
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,480
All right. All in favor? I.

696
00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:03,280
That passes 7-0.

697
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:06,320
Thank you. So, number three is award bid

698
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,440
for the concrete portion of the

699
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:09,160
playground and pickleball project at the

700
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:11,280
Old Spanish Trail Arena. And that is

701
00:26:11,280 --> 00:26:13,640
with our Old Spanish Trail

702
00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:17,230
director, Angela Hook.

703
00:26:17,240 --> 00:26:22,488
Hello.

704
00:26:22,498 --> 00:26:22,800
» [clears throat]

705
00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,120
>> So, tonight um I bring to you the

706
00:26:26,120 --> 00:26:27,840
bids for the concrete portion of the

707
00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,440
concrete for the playground and

708
00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:31,440
pickleball

709
00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:32,360
uh

710
00:26:32,360 --> 00:26:34,480
project at the OST.

711
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,960
We had four bids that were submitted

712
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:39,480
um all together.

713
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,080
And

714
00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:42,160
were

715
00:26:42,160 --> 00:26:43,760
the board um

716
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,360
well, it was really a board. The

717
00:26:45,360 --> 00:26:46,800
committee that was put together to

718
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:48,520
review the bids

719
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:49,840
um

720
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,240
reviewed them all and are actually

721
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:54,800
submitting two

722
00:26:54,800 --> 00:26:57,160
um to the committee to the commission to

723
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:58,520
review

724
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:02,350
um

725
00:27:02,360 --> 00:27:04,160
to be awarded. The reason why we're

726
00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:06,080
submitting two, one is a non-local

727
00:27:06,080 --> 00:27:07,480
contractor and one is a local

728
00:27:07,480 --> 00:27:09,240
contractor. They're pretty close in

729
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,120
price but one is cheaper. The cheaper

730
00:27:12,120 --> 00:27:14,640
one is um a non-local

731
00:27:14,640 --> 00:27:15,560
contractor.

732
00:27:15,560 --> 00:27:16,640
So,

733
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,440
um

734
00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:19,920
I did

735
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,360
write up a synopsis of everything

736
00:27:23,360 --> 00:27:25,000
um scope of work. I can go over the

737
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:28,790
detail if you like or

738
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,400
I What are the exact uh

739
00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:33,880
quotes for both the two bids proposed?

740
00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:38,520
Um so, the non-local came in at $76,610

741
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,040
and the local contractor came in at

742
00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:44,990
$83,815.

743
00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:47,320
Did we give a previous

744
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:50,040
This This is Stephen gave

745
00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:51,600
Did we give a previous amount that we

746
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,800
would lean towards as a percentage

747
00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,240
amount that we would lean?

748
00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:58,760
>> Correct. Under 50,000. Under 50,000 we

749
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:01,240
have a local preference. 10% but since

750
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:02,560
this is over 50,000, I think we're

751
00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:07,944
obligated to go with the low bid. Yeah.

752
00:28:07,954 --> 00:28:08,120
» [clears throat]

753
00:28:08,120 --> 00:28:10,560
>> And also Oh, sorry. Either contract

754
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,360
either one that we choose it will put

755
00:28:12,360 --> 00:28:17,110
this project over budget.

756
00:28:17,120 --> 00:28:18,480
Are the funds coming out of the general

757
00:28:18,480 --> 00:28:21,830
fund for this? No.

758
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,200
This This isn't not This This isn't part

759
00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,830
of the grant, right? Correct. Okay.

760
00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,840
I would assume

761
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:33,040
funds come from

762
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:33,320
uh

763
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,560
>> capital capital projects. Yeah.

764
00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:36,560
Yep.

765
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,440
What were the What were the names of the

766
00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:39,080
um

767
00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,160
the non-local and local?

768
00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:42,920
So, the non-local is Crown Point

769
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:45,400
Construction and the local would be

770
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:51,470
Harrison. Okay.

771
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:52,640
Go ahead, Jacques.

772
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,920
Um uh generally I I I would prefer to go

773
00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:58,840
with the local. I think

774
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:00,600
it

775
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,520
It's a the difference is a little over

776
00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:04,760
$7,000 and as this project's already

777
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:06,160
over

778
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,920
priced, I would make a motion

779
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:13,640
to award the grant contract to Pronghorn

780
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:17,240
at um 76 610.

781
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:18,760
I'll second that.

782
00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:21,120
No, I'll go ahead and second. Sorry. Um

783
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:21,800
all right.

784
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:22,625
That's

785
00:29:22,625 --> 00:29:23,160
>> [laughter]

786
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:26,200
>> Any other um

787
00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:27,760
Yeah, discussion?

788
00:29:27,760 --> 00:29:28,480
Go.

789
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:29,680
ahead, Mike. I know we spoke

790
00:29:29,680 --> 00:29:33,720
previously about uh

791
00:29:33,720 --> 00:29:35,760
trying to lean more local. I understand

792
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,320
it's over budget and I understand the

793
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,240
choice for Pronghorns.

794
00:29:39,240 --> 00:29:41,440
They you got my vote there, so.

795
00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,960
But I do still prefer that we still look

796
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:45,040
towards

797
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,560
uh local contractors.

798
00:29:46,560 --> 00:29:47,515
Yeah, I agree.

799
00:29:47,515 --> 00:29:50,190
>> [laughter]

800
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,720
» Okay.

801
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:52,760
All right, we'll go ahead and call for a

802
00:29:52,760 --> 00:29:55,920
vote. All in favor of Jacques's motion.

803
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:57,280
I. I.

804
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,360
That passes 7-0.

805
00:29:59,360 --> 00:30:00,720
And all right, I think you can just stay

806
00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:02,600
right there. Is Is um

807
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:06,470
Is Jenabeth coming in, too?

808
00:30:06,480 --> 00:30:08,280
We're moving along to pass for her. Oh,

809
00:30:08,280 --> 00:30:09,440
there she is.

810
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:13,630
She's sprinting. You're good.

811
00:30:13,640 --> 00:30:15,520
All right, so our number four is special

812
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:18,040
events or high-impact events

813
00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:19,760
that are ready to review for our second

814
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:21,640
quarter with Jenabeth Jones, our chief

815
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:22,885
deputy clerk, and Angela Booker,

816
00:30:22,885 --> 00:30:23,880
[clears throat] our old special trailer

817
00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:26,280
event director.

818
00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,920
All right, so I've got two events on the

819
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:31,760
agenda for you.

820
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,320
First, we have Raptors on the Rocks,

821
00:30:35,320 --> 00:30:38,320
which is April 29th through May 2nd. We

822
00:30:38,320 --> 00:30:41,040
have about 100 motorized vehicles

823
00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:44,120
estimated. It is a recurring event for 5

824
00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:45,560
years. Um,

825
00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:48,120
it's an event that's targeted at foreign

826
00:30:48,120 --> 00:30:49,960
Raptor owners.

827
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:52,360
And then the Grenadier Gathering, which

828
00:30:52,360 --> 00:30:54,920
is the same dates, April 29th through

829
00:30:54,920 --> 00:30:56,760
May 2nd.

830
00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,600
Um, they're estimating about 150

831
00:30:59,600 --> 00:31:01,000
vehicles.

832
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,640
It's been recurring for 3 years.

833
00:31:03,640 --> 00:31:06,920
And it's just the Grenadier vehicles um

834
00:31:06,920 --> 00:31:10,160
that come to into Moab. Um, so the issue

835
00:31:10,160 --> 00:31:12,600
we're running into here obviously is

836
00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:14,400
that they're both the same dates and

837
00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:15,800
they are both

838
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:17,680
wanting to

839
00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,320
um, rent out Hostah, which is why I'm

840
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:21,680
here.

841
00:31:21,680 --> 00:31:24,190
Um.

842
00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:25,440
So,

843
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:30,110
I guess anyway, that's that's our issue.

844
00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:31,360
Do you want to speak to it at all,

845
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:32,360
Heather, or do you want to skip

846
00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,281
questions asked?

847
00:31:34,281 --> 00:31:34,640
>> [laughter]

848
00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,840
>> Whichever works, but uh Grenadier is uh

849
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:40,480
they held the dates for 3 years in a

850
00:31:40,480 --> 00:31:42,760
row. Um.

851
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:45,840
Raptors has traditionally been on the

852
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:47,840
Mother's Day weekend. I know that

853
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,840
they're looking to switch their dates.

854
00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:51,720
Um.

855
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:54,440
And that first weekend of May is a

856
00:31:54,440 --> 00:31:56,560
popular um

857
00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,920
date that's sought after.

858
00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:00,280
Um.

859
00:32:00,280 --> 00:32:02,960
And it just happens to be the week that

860
00:32:02,960 --> 00:32:06,160
Grenadier currently holds. So.

861
00:32:06,160 --> 00:32:07,840
That was a good question.

862
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:12,240
Mike. Uh in that with roughly 250

863
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,240
vehicles uh estimated roughly 250

864
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:15,880
vehicles and

865
00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,760
425 attendees, are we able to hold both?

866
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:22,160
They both use the same

867
00:32:22,160 --> 00:32:24,400
facility but in different ways. Okay.

868
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,920
So, technically, no. Um, Grenadier rents

869
00:32:27,920 --> 00:32:30,160
the stage also and they set the stage up

870
00:32:30,160 --> 00:32:33,600
inside the arena. Yeah. Um, and they use

871
00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,080
the whole inside of the arena.

872
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:36,800
Um,

873
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:39,000
they set it as a expo.

874
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:39,760
Um,

875
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:42,200
they do their banquet inside.

876
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,000
And then Raptors base stage inside. So,

877
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,600
they're actually setting up and then

878
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:51,200
leaving from inside the arena.

879
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:52,840
Understood. Have

880
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:53,640
uh

881
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,080
in that same is has both

882
00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:00,360
promoters event promoters been asked

883
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:01,720
if they can hold each other at the same

884
00:33:01,720 --> 00:33:04,240
time? They they haven't, but I can I can

885
00:33:04,240 --> 00:33:06,720
pretty much answer to that.

886
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:07,800
It's worth it.

887
00:33:07,800 --> 00:33:10,760
Okay. I know it would be a no.

888
00:33:10,760 --> 00:33:13,560
Sure. I mean, to me it seems fair that

889
00:33:13,560 --> 00:33:14,880
the people that have been holding those

890
00:33:14,880 --> 00:33:17,760
dates hold those dates, you know. And I

891
00:33:17,760 --> 00:33:19,560
think if you want to move your your

892
00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:22,600
event, you're winging it, right? Yeah.

893
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:25,080
That seems fair to me. Arena Deer should

894
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:26,640
hold that date.

895
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:27,720
Yeah.

896
00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:30,080
Do you have any other dates

897
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:33,320
next [clears throat] year? I know last time we talked about your

898
00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:34,440
dates and then we looked at other

899
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:35,458
events. Like

900
00:33:35,458 --> 00:33:35,600
>> [snorts]

901
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:38,080
>> Oco still was booked all the way. So, if

902
00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:39,680
they traditionally held Mother's Day

903
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:40,760
weekend, which would be the next

904
00:33:40,760 --> 00:33:42,200
weekend,

905
00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:43,560
well, I don't know. This year is that

906
00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:44,840
weekend, but I don't know about next

907
00:33:44,840 --> 00:33:47,640
year. I'm not that far. Um,

908
00:33:47,640 --> 00:33:49,520
is that weekend available for them? If

909
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,720
they Like the the weekend that they hold

910
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:53,600
is like the weekend that's

911
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,400
available. And is the weekend that's

912
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:56,840
available? I mean, it's normally it's

913
00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,038
like the same Yeah. like pattern

914
00:33:59,038 --> 00:34:00,440
[clears throat] just

915
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:01,760
They haven't

916
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,760
Yeah. gained that that date.

917
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:06,720
It's still available.

918
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,399
Okay, so it's still available if we deny

919
00:34:08,399 --> 00:34:09,760
them this one. All right, go ahead,

920
00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,919
Stephen. Just just a note for policy

921
00:34:11,919 --> 00:34:13,679
decision eventually, this is something

922
00:34:13,679 --> 00:34:15,320
that I I've mentioned it

923
00:34:15,320 --> 00:34:17,000
to Quinn in the past. There will come a

924
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:19,080
day where people continue to start

925
00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,600
competing for Oco on certain days. Just

926
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:23,720
because somebody's utilized a facility,

927
00:34:23,720 --> 00:34:25,560
that may or may not be a factor for them

928
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,600
to permanently utilizing it. There may

929
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:29,480
be a point in time where the commission

930
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,159
wants to sit down and to out what we do

931
00:34:32,159 --> 00:34:33,480
when have competing interests for the

932
00:34:33,480 --> 00:34:37,120
Grand Center or hosted, etc.

933
00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:39,320
Is it whoever applies first? There may

934
00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,440
be some metrics or perhaps utilizing it

935
00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:42,919
X number of years in a row would

936
00:34:42,919 --> 00:34:44,919
disqualify for the future. I think

937
00:34:44,919 --> 00:34:46,280
you're probably going to see more of

938
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,800
these applications in the future.

939
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:50,399
I'm not super helpful in this particular

940
00:34:50,399 --> 00:34:52,440
decision, but just something to think

941
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:53,919
about going forward and and that's

942
00:34:53,919 --> 00:34:55,040
something that Angie probably wants to

943
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:56,560
figure out because somebody can make the

944
00:34:56,560 --> 00:34:58,360
argument just because they've utilized

945
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:00,720
it for a long time at a certain point.

946
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:01,840
>> They they could raise the question of

947
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:04,040
access and permits, etc. And it does

948
00:35:04,040 --> 00:35:06,200
change year to year like if there's a

949
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:09,120
leap year, if there's an extra week in

950
00:35:09,120 --> 00:35:11,840
the year or a month, it does change and

951
00:35:11,840 --> 00:35:15,920
like Jeep Safari is always on Easter.

952
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:17,600
Like Rodeo is always the weekend after

953
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:19,200
Memorial Day,

954
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,960
which kind of messes

955
00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:23,480
Yeah. with way things fall.

956
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:25,400
So we have to look at

957
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:28,200
the weeks like that.

958
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,360
Uh So it does push dates out.

959
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:35,240
Same with Cruise Moab because Cruise Moab is always after Jeep Safari.

960
00:35:35,240 --> 00:35:38,200
So sometimes they can come in the Monday

961
00:35:38,200 --> 00:35:40,400
after

962
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:41,720
Jeep Safari and then sometimes they

963
00:35:41,720 --> 00:35:43,920
can't because we they have their safety

964
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:45,720
meeting and getting into the weeds of

965
00:35:45,720 --> 00:35:47,080
things, but

966
00:35:47,080 --> 00:35:48,920
when they're booking things 10 years

967
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:50,120
out,

968
00:35:50,120 --> 00:35:51,960
we have to look at that.

969
00:35:51,960 --> 00:35:53,440
Sure.

970
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:54,360
So.

971
00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:54,600
Okay.

972
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:56,284
>> Just for clarification, which which

973
00:35:56,284 --> 00:35:57,560
[clears throat] Sorry about that. No,

974
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:58,320
you can go ahead.

975
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:00,640
>> Uh which event was moving their dates

976
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:02,720
from normal? Uh

977
00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:03,240
Raptor

978
00:36:03,240 --> 00:36:04,320
>> Raptor was moving.

979
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,000
a week earlier. that Red Rock

980
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,120
historically has.

981
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:11,360
Um I think Brian had sent it first.

982
00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:14,240
Yeah, and just just for your operations,

983
00:36:14,240 --> 00:36:16,440
is there a lot of switching the grounds

984
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,280
between these events?

985
00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:20,440
I mean as as the way things fall, are

986
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:22,640
there are they are they set up in a way

987
00:36:22,640 --> 00:36:25,160
to where it's efficient or are you

988
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:26,920
changing the grounds up quite a bit in

989
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,200
between these events. I think that's

990
00:36:28,200 --> 00:36:30,040
something Yeah, sometimes. So, like if a

991
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,760
barrel race wanted to come in, say, like

992
00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:34,440
next weekend, it couldn't happen cuz

993
00:36:34,440 --> 00:36:36,480
we're hard compacted. There's no way to

994
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,960
get the arena ground worked and safe

995
00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,720
enough for a barrel race to come in.

996
00:36:41,720 --> 00:36:43,320
Okay, thanks. And these two would be

997
00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:45,720
very similar. No, I Yeah,

998
00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:47,520
correct. Yeah, cuz the ground's already

999
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:49,200
hard compacted. Yeah, but my question

1000
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:50,440
was more if we were moving towards a

1001
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:53,360
policy of what we would do is trying to

1002
00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:55,120
take that into consideration as well.

1003
00:36:55,120 --> 00:36:56,360
The work that would have to go into

1004
00:36:56,360 --> 00:36:58,680
switching events. Yeah, yeah. That's why

1005
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:00,720
we look at the events of meeting people

1006
00:37:00,720 --> 00:37:02,520
just to see what they're looking at,

1007
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,040
what they're doing just at the stage

1008
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,160
that the

1009
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:10,390
arena is currently at.

1010
00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,360
Okay, Mike, go ahead. I know many tough

1011
00:37:12,360 --> 00:37:16,350
questions here. Um

1012
00:37:16,360 --> 00:37:17,880
Are you available to host Rap on the

1013
00:37:17,880 --> 00:37:20,320
Rocks if the event host was reached out

1014
00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,640
to and wanted to go with the Mother's

1015
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:26,020
Day weekend for usual? Mhm. Yeah,

1016
00:37:26,020 --> 00:37:26,800
[clears throat] I don't I don't think

1017
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,000
so. And if they wanted like maybe a

1018
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:29,640
different part of the facility, that

1019
00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,560
could be an option too, which

1020
00:37:31,560 --> 00:37:36,440
I know they want the indoor. But that's

1021
00:37:36,440 --> 00:37:39,110
I think that would be an option.

1022
00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,280
It's a hard hard press to switch up

1023
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:42,720
timelines.

1024
00:37:42,720 --> 00:37:44,640
Did they say why they wanted to change,

1025
00:37:44,640 --> 00:37:46,200
first of all? Cuz it's Mother's Day

1026
00:37:46,200 --> 00:37:48,040
weekend. Cuz it's Mother's Day weekend.

1027
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:49,080
Yeah,

1028
00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:50,840
it's a tough one. Um

1029
00:37:50,840 --> 00:37:52,920
And so, Grenadiers has had three

1030
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:54,760
straight and then Rap on the Rocks has

1031
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:55,840
had Mother's Day weekend for five

1032
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,880
straight. So, they're Yeah, I think

1033
00:37:57,880 --> 00:38:00,960
they're they're dug in a little bit.

1034
00:38:00,960 --> 00:38:04,040
Um do we need a motion on this one to

1035
00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,520
approve or Yeah. Okay.

1036
00:38:06,520 --> 00:38:08,560
I'll I'll move to approve

1037
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:09,800
um

1038
00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:11,840
the Grenadiers event for to to hold the

1039
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,960
weekend that they've held the the first

1040
00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,760
weekend in May and offer the Raps on the

1041
00:38:17,760 --> 00:38:20,000
Rocks the traditional weekend that

1042
00:38:20,000 --> 00:38:24,230
they've utilized at least this year.

1043
00:38:24,240 --> 00:38:25,400
Did [clears throat] I miss that?

1044
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,400
Okay, so that I'm just clarifying. So we

1045
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:28,760
are going to

1046
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:30,480
just pass it. Bend O Deer will be on

1047
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,000
that weekend and then Jenny Beth do you

1048
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:34,920
reach out to Raptors on the Rocks for

1049
00:38:34,920 --> 00:38:36,520
that to let them know that and then it

1050
00:38:36,520 --> 00:38:38,440
doesn't need to come back before us if

1051
00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:40,240
they take that weekend

1052
00:38:40,240 --> 00:38:41,760
because that will be in the motion. But

1053
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:43,520
if they don't want that weekend and they

1054
00:38:43,520 --> 00:38:44,720
want to figure out something else and

1055
00:38:44,720 --> 00:38:46,920
they have to come back before us.

1056
00:38:46,920 --> 00:38:49,120
They can contact Andy and see if there

1057
00:38:49,120 --> 00:38:50,880
is a way to make it work that weekend if

1058
00:38:50,880 --> 00:38:52,120
they were willing and and she was

1059
00:38:52,120 --> 00:38:53,960
willing but that was a lot that really I

1060
00:38:53,960 --> 00:38:56,360
feel like that's on her as the director

1061
00:38:56,360 --> 00:38:57,920
to

1062
00:38:57,920 --> 00:38:58,960
decide if that's something she could

1063
00:38:58,960 --> 00:39:00,600
take on. But if if they were willing and

1064
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:01,800
they and then she was willing to take it

1065
00:39:01,800 --> 00:39:06,520
on. So I any other discussion?

1066
00:39:06,520 --> 00:39:08,480
Okay, so that would be a Bend O Deer

1067
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,120
will have the

1068
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,920
weeks that they requested and Raptors

1069
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,800
can have the next weekend.

1070
00:39:13,800 --> 00:39:15,400
All in favor.

1071
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:16,480
I. I.

1072
00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:18,680
Okay, that passes 7-0. Perfect. Thank

1073
00:39:18,680 --> 00:39:19,800
you. Thank you.

1074
00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,720
No new ones came in, huh? We had them

1075
00:39:21,720 --> 00:39:23,480
last time. That was it. Thank you.

1076
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:24,920
Thanks for being here cuz yeah, got to

1077
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:25,887
make that decision.

1078
00:39:25,887 --> 00:39:29,350
>> [laughter]

1079
00:39:29,360 --> 00:39:30,800
» Don't be thinking you're going to get a

1080
00:39:30,800 --> 00:39:32,920
unanimous all across the board now.

1081
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,240
Today? No. Running down.

1082
00:39:36,240 --> 00:39:37,960
I know you're looking hopeful and you're

1083
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,297
smiling.

1084
00:39:40,297 --> 00:39:40,840
>> [laughter]

1085
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:44,470
>> And um let's see.

1086
00:39:44,480 --> 00:39:45,440
Today?

1087
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:46,960
I am going to have you you know I know

1088
00:39:46,960 --> 00:39:48,840
that you had a you were going to make a

1089
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:51,040
comment Sean when we were talking about

1090
00:39:51,040 --> 00:39:53,000
future considerations. So if you want to

1091
00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,040
come up right now and talk about that

1092
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,760
cuz I forgot to go back to you. I'm

1093
00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:57,280
sorry.

1094
00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,040
>> We'll go tomorrow. Sorry Tess. I'll just

1095
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:00,000
keep it brief. I wanted

1096
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,680
>> And the right-of-ways that are usually

1097
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:03,200
what he has concerns and I've had the

1098
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:04,800
same concerns

1099
00:40:04,800 --> 00:40:06,480
uh with right-of-way and invariably

1100
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,400
because the the requirements are so

1101
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:12,360
strict is like getting an appraisal on a house they have to

1102
00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:14,880
follow certain strict criteria

1103
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:16,880
and because it's

1104
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:21,790
um there's just so very few appraisers

1105
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:23,520
that date kept getting pushed back. But

1106
00:40:23,520 --> 00:40:25,480
I will say that I received seven emails

1107
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:27,080
within half an hour before the

1108
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,920
commission meeting.

1109
00:40:28,920 --> 00:40:32,760
Um each with 120 or so page

1110
00:40:32,760 --> 00:40:35,080
very thorough appraisal.

1111
00:40:35,080 --> 00:40:36,600
Um starting with the Finster's and then

1112
00:40:36,600 --> 00:40:38,720
just kind of moving up up the road

1113
00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:39,600
there.

1114
00:40:39,600 --> 00:40:41,760
Um so those will be ready for

1115
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:44,080
your um review and ratification at the

1116
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:45,400
next meeting.

1117
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:46,800
Thank you so much, John. You're welcome.

1118
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:47,920
And then in the meantime there's three

1119
00:40:47,920 --> 00:40:50,920
or four property owners that uh

1120
00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:52,680
you know, got got new to the projects.

1121
00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:53,680
They they really want to know

1122
00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:55,240
specifically what's going to happen kind

1123
00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:56,480
of like with

1124
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:57,600
um

1125
00:40:57,600 --> 00:40:59,240
with the bottle wall.

1126
00:40:59,240 --> 00:40:59,720
They just want [clears throat] to know

1127
00:40:59,720 --> 00:41:02,040
the status of that. Um

1128
00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:04,120
So our designer has reached out to those

1129
00:41:04,120 --> 00:41:05,840
three or four individuals and talked to

1130
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:07,480
them specifically about what their

1131
00:41:07,480 --> 00:41:09,160
concerns are.

1132
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,360
Whether they might be chain link fences,

1133
00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:13,480
landscape, things like that.

1134
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,400
And the appraisals are so detailed that

1135
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,000
they're actually compensating these

1136
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,440
owners for taking out a fence, taking

1137
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:20,640
out a gate.

1138
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:21,480
Um

1139
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:24,360
And of course once this

1140
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:26,840
If the commission decides to go ahead

1141
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,640
and give Judy Larson the approval to

1142
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:32,320
make initial offers on these properties.

1143
00:41:32,320 --> 00:41:33,320
Um

1144
00:41:33,320 --> 00:41:35,200
then that's that's the initial offer and

1145
00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:36,960
then I'm sure there's quite a little bit

1146
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:39,280
of back and forth after that.

1147
00:41:39,280 --> 00:41:41,440
I I apologize for the long timeline on

1148
00:41:41,440 --> 00:41:43,990
that.

1149
00:41:44,000 --> 00:41:45,760
No, thanks. I appreciate it. I just want

1150
00:41:45,760 --> 00:41:46,720
to make sure because there are some

1151
00:41:46,720 --> 00:41:48,080
opportunities where we're going to start

1152
00:41:48,080 --> 00:41:49,480
looking for the funding because there's

1153
00:41:49,480 --> 00:41:51,360
going to be a funding gap. And so just

1154
00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:53,920
understanding that timeline is I think

1155
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:55,120
is going to be paramount here in the

1156
00:41:55,120 --> 00:41:57,640
next in the next month. Yes. So I just

1157
00:41:57,640 --> 00:41:58,800
want to make sure that we're that we're

1158
00:41:58,800 --> 00:42:00,600
staying on track to get this project

1159
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:02,600
completed. And so that the folks that

1160
00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,400
are out looking for funding can can

1161
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:05,920
relate to the people that hey, we're now

1162
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:08,040
on track. This is where we're at.

1163
00:42:08,040 --> 00:42:10,160
forward with this. So here we we We

1164
00:42:10,160 --> 00:42:12,040
forward to having a menu a menu of

1165
00:42:12,040 --> 00:42:14,400
options, with prioritized storm drain

1166
00:42:14,400 --> 00:42:16,800
storm water projects in the next meeting

1167
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,240
to to give the commission a menu of

1168
00:42:18,240 --> 00:42:19,720
different options and priorities to

1169
00:42:19,720 --> 00:42:22,280
choose from.

1170
00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:23,560
Bethany, I know this would be a rush,

1171
00:42:23,560 --> 00:42:25,080
but is there anything that we any

1172
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:26,600
information that we could have maybe by

1173
00:42:26,600 --> 00:42:28,600
end of week? Um, I think it would be

1174
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:30,760
helpful as well. And so, even if it's

1175
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:32,760
just even if it's just a rough draft, I

1176
00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:34,280
think anything that we have end of week

1177
00:42:34,280 --> 00:42:37,000
could be helpful. Yeah. Thanks.

1178
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,160
I'll provide that.

1179
00:42:38,160 --> 00:42:40,240
Thanks, Tom.

1180
00:42:40,240 --> 00:42:41,360
Okay, [clears throat] now moving on to

1181
00:42:41,360 --> 00:42:43,080
number five, and that's a position

1182
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,520
backfill request with the Roads and

1183
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:46,600
Bridges Department with Tess, our

1184
00:42:46,600 --> 00:42:49,040
personnel director service director. And

1185
00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,160
I'm going to be yes.

1186
00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:54,200
Cody McKinney, our roads supervisor.

1187
00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:56,799
Roads and bridges supervisor. All right.

1188
00:42:56,799 --> 00:42:57,200
>> [clears throat]

1189
00:42:57,200 --> 00:42:59,560
>> Good evening, everyone. Uh, so we are

1190
00:42:59,560 --> 00:43:01,360
here this evening to request the

1191
00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:04,320
backfill of two road labor positions.

1192
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:05,960
For some additional context and

1193
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:08,120
background, both of these road labor

1194
00:43:08,120 --> 00:43:09,720
positions, as well as the assistant

1195
00:43:09,720 --> 00:43:11,920
supervisor position, have been vacant

1196
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:13,480
within the Roads Department for all of

1197
00:43:13,480 --> 00:43:15,360
2026 thus far.

1198
00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,640
With the recent departure of one of our

1199
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,640
operators, however, at this time the

1200
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,640
roads staff really need to backfill

1201
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,200
these labor positions so they can get

1202
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:24,800
their operators back to their regular

1203
00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,000
course of duties and to try to offset

1204
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:28,520
some of that short staffing that they

1205
00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:29,800
have been scheduling around and

1206
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:33,680
navigating throughout 26 so far.

1207
00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:35,480
And these positions were both budgeted

1208
00:43:35,480 --> 00:43:40,510
for in the approved 26 budget.

1209
00:43:40,520 --> 00:43:41,400
So.

1210
00:43:41,400 --> 00:43:43,200
I move to approve the backfill of two

1211
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,320
road labor positions under the Roads and

1212
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:47,160
Bridges Department effective

1213
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:49,760
immediately.

1214
00:43:49,760 --> 00:43:51,160
Seconded by Mike.

1215
00:43:51,160 --> 00:43:56,630
Okay. Any other questions or discussion?

1216
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:58,370
Okay, all in favor.

1217
00:43:58,370 --> 00:44:00,550
>> [clears throat]

1218
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:02,280
» All right, there you go. Thank you all

1219
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:03,560
very much.

1220
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,680
Thank you. Thank you, commission.

1221
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:08,000
And so, number six was the postponed

1222
00:44:08,000 --> 00:44:09,160
item.

1223
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,320
We're going to move on to number seven.

1224
00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:13,040
Where is Andrew Andrew Jackson, our

1225
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,000
planning zoning director? The ordinance

1226
00:44:15,000 --> 00:44:17,000
selling tax amendment outfitters as a

1227
00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,040
permitted use in light industrial zone.

1228
00:44:19,040 --> 00:44:24,750
We had a public hearing last meeting.

1229
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,440
I'm Andrew Jackson. I'm a planning

1230
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,840
director here at Grand County.

1231
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:32,560
I was in a planning conference

1232
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:35,840
uh 2 weeks ago and this is just a uh

1233
00:44:35,840 --> 00:44:39,160
half plain English summaries of the

1234
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:41,440
staff reports. It's all got all

1235
00:44:41,440 --> 00:44:44,280
technical stuff, but I'm going with the

1236
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:46,200
plain English summary first. If you want

1237
00:44:46,200 --> 00:44:48,480
me to get into the technical stuff, I

1238
00:44:48,480 --> 00:44:49,840
can.

1239
00:44:49,840 --> 00:44:52,120
This proposal would change the county's

1240
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:56,760
land use code to allow non-ATV outfitter

1241
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:59,920
and guide businesses as a permitted use

1242
00:44:59,920 --> 00:45:02,280
in the light industrial zone.

1243
00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:04,920
The request comes from a property owner

1244
00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,240
running an e-bike business on Cane Creek

1245
00:45:07,240 --> 00:45:09,520
Boulevard, which is similar to an

1246
00:45:09,520 --> 00:45:12,120
outfitter's use. Staff found that this

1247
00:45:12,120 --> 00:45:14,520
type of business fits well with other

1248
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:16,680
uses already allowed in the light

1249
00:45:16,680 --> 00:45:19,160
industrial zone. Both staff and the

1250
00:45:19,160 --> 00:45:21,400
planning commission recommend approval

1251
00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:23,760
of the change. And included as backup

1252
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:26,800
material, I have the ordinances uh that

1253
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,080
also identifies the change being made to

1254
00:45:30,080 --> 00:45:34,001
3.1 use table of the the code.

1255
00:45:34,001 --> 00:45:39,070
>> [clears throat]

1256
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:40,600
» Thanks.

1257
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,280
I'm looking for what I need to read to

1258
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:43,200
the board.

1259
00:45:43,200 --> 00:45:44,960
It's It's down at the bottom of that

1260
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:46,640
first page. Planning commission

1261
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:50,960
recommended motion. recommends The only question that I would The only

1262
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:52,720
item that I was going to mention is how

1263
00:45:52,720 --> 00:45:56,600
many light industrial zones are there in the county? Light industrial zones

1264
00:45:56,600 --> 00:45:58,440
light industrial properties? I'm sorry,

1265
00:45:58,440 --> 00:46:00,080
properties. Four.

1266
00:46:00,080 --> 00:46:02,200
So there's There's one on Cane Creek.

1267
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:04,520
There's one that's a batch plant or

1268
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:08,000
something. The construction. And there's

1269
00:46:08,000 --> 00:46:12,320
an additional one, plus currently all of

1270
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:19,750
the open area is light industrial.

1271
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:21,320
All right.

1272
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,080
Having considered the staff report and

1273
00:46:24,080 --> 00:46:26,200
recommendation, planning commission

1274
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:28,240
recommendation, public comments,

1275
00:46:28,240 --> 00:46:30,680
testimony, and the land use code, and

1276
00:46:30,680 --> 00:46:33,120
finding that McValentine

1277
00:46:33,120 --> 00:46:36,280
request for outfitters, guide services,

1278
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:39,320
and facilities, non-ATV

1279
00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:41,680
outfitters, guide services, and rental

1280
00:46:41,680 --> 00:46:44,760
businesses is similar to other permitted

1281
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,080
uses in the light industrial zone, I

1282
00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:49,760
recommend approval of the ordinance to

1283
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:50,840
the county commission.

1284
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,360
>> It seeks approval. It seeks approval,

1285
00:46:53,360 --> 00:46:55,080
yeah, without the to the county

1286
00:46:55,080 --> 00:46:57,520
commission.

1287
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,150
Okay.

1288
00:47:00,160 --> 00:47:01,840
Right?

1289
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:03,240
So, we have a first by Bill and a second

1290
00:47:03,240 --> 00:47:04,760
by Brian.

1291
00:47:04,760 --> 00:47:05,880
All right. Any more discussion? Go

1292
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,160
ahead, Trish. Uh so, I'm not going to

1293
00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,280
vote for this, and there's many reasons

1294
00:47:10,280 --> 00:47:12,400
why, and I hope that it's just more of a

1295
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:15,040
precautionary tale for the future.

1296
00:47:15,040 --> 00:47:16,720
So, first of all, we are now in the

1297
00:47:16,720 --> 00:47:19,040
midst of a land use code update. So, to

1298
00:47:19,040 --> 00:47:21,360
be manipulating the current land use

1299
00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:22,840
code,

1300
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:26,680
it just doesn't make any sense to me. Um

1301
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:28,480
you know,

1302
00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,720
I would have recommended that this

1303
00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:36,720
property owner just wait, and if if we know if we saw that we wanted non-ATV

1304
00:47:36,720 --> 00:47:38,640
outfitters in that zone, we could have

1305
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,240
applied that to the future land use

1306
00:47:40,240 --> 00:47:44,200
code, and off we went. Um

1307
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:48,080
the other problem with this is we're simply manipulating the land use

1308
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:50,840
table, but there's all these correlating

1309
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,080
standards. So, when you manipulate the

1310
00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:54,520
table,

1311
00:47:54,520 --> 00:47:57,120
you then have to manipulate all of the

1312
00:47:57,120 --> 00:47:59,680
standards and this is why our land use

1313
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:02,640
code is such a hot mess. It's because

1314
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:04,680
over the years, and I don't know, you

1315
00:48:04,680 --> 00:48:06,440
know, Mary O'Hagan would know how long

1316
00:48:06,440 --> 00:48:09,920
we've had our current land use code, but

1317
00:48:09,920 --> 00:48:13,360
this is how it got broken. By trying to

1318
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:16,440
appease this maybe a certain property

1319
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:22,120
owner, whatever it might be, but it's it it just it breaks it. Because you're

1320
00:48:22,120 --> 00:48:24,200
manipulating a part but not not you're

1321
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:27,200
not doing it holistically. And so again,

1322
00:48:27,200 --> 00:48:28,280
I realize I'm not going to win this

1323
00:48:28,280 --> 00:48:30,000
vote, but what I'm trying to point out

1324
00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:32,400
is we can't continue to do this,

1325
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:35,240
especially when we have an updated land

1326
00:48:35,240 --> 00:48:36,920
use code coming up, and then if we

1327
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,560
immediately start breaking it again,

1328
00:48:39,560 --> 00:48:41,440
you know, it's it's just a it's just bad

1329
00:48:41,440 --> 00:48:44,080
practice. And then and then lastly, I

1330
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,520
think it's a really bad it's bad

1331
00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,720
practice to change the land use table

1332
00:48:49,720 --> 00:48:51,640
for one property owner.

1333
00:48:51,640 --> 00:48:53,120
Um

1334
00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,040
you know, that individual bought that

1335
00:48:55,040 --> 00:48:56,400
property knowing they bought light

1336
00:48:56,400 --> 00:48:59,430
industrial.

1337
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:01,000
I mean, I always struggle with that.

1338
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:02,560
It's like when you buy property, if I

1339
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:04,600
buy rural residential,

1340
00:49:04,600 --> 00:49:06,440
I should expect that I get to build a

1341
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:08,760
house and an ADU, that I'm not going to

1342
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:10,040
eventually say, "Well, I'm going to chop

1343
00:49:10,040 --> 00:49:10,808
it up into"

1344
00:49:10,808 --> 00:49:10,920
>> [clears throat]

1345
00:49:10,920 --> 00:49:14,160
>> So, I I just I I struggle with the

1346
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,320
concept of of changing our land use code

1347
00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,000
for one property owner. Again, I know

1348
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:21,000
I'm not going to win this vote, but I

1349
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,480
want to I am like trying to lay out

1350
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,360
the future and what we don't want to be

1351
00:49:27,360 --> 00:49:29,400
doing when we have that refreshed land

1352
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:32,470
use code.

1353
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:34,640
I agree about that, when we get the new

1354
00:49:34,640 --> 00:49:36,240
land use code, but I think with that

1355
00:49:36,240 --> 00:49:38,240
only being four

1356
00:49:38,240 --> 00:49:40,200
parcels in our community and one of them

1357
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:41,720
being Almtra,

1358
00:49:41,720 --> 00:49:44,280
that it's not really like I mean, we are

1359
00:49:44,280 --> 00:49:46,360
doing it for one person, and if we make

1360
00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,400
him wait until the land use code is

1361
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:52,880
updated, we are hindering him from revenue and from growing his

1362
00:49:52,880 --> 00:49:54,680
business already running his business

1363
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:55,600
And and he's already running his

1364
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:57,880
business he made that very clear.

1365
00:49:57,880 --> 00:50:00,080
You know, so said that. For me, you

1366
00:50:00,080 --> 00:50:02,880
know, I I think that it's it's I

1367
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:04,680
understand all of the pieces of land use

1368
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:07,560
code and it'll get fixed in a few months

1369
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:12,000
and it's not affecting a lot of spaces in our community. It's a

1370
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,240
very small amount.

1371
00:50:14,240 --> 00:50:16,960
So, but I point taken for sure. Anybody

1372
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:18,929
else have comments? Brian, go ahead.

1373
00:50:18,929 --> 00:50:20,160
>> [clears throat]

1374
00:50:20,160 --> 00:50:22,960
>> Yeah, so you know, I had a conversation

1375
00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:24,680
a couple of weeks ago with Robert

1376
00:50:24,680 --> 00:50:26,600
talking about our economy.

1377
00:50:26,600 --> 00:50:28,720
And deciding

1378
00:50:28,720 --> 00:50:31,360
where what we want our economy to be.

1379
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,040
Um and whatever we decide that we want

1380
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:34,600
our economy to be it's going to have to

1381
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:36,160
be an export. That's one of the things

1382
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:37,200
that he said. All right, whatever you

1383
00:50:37,200 --> 00:50:39,320
want it's going to have to be an export

1384
00:50:39,320 --> 00:50:41,920
if we're going to go ahead and uh have

1385
00:50:41,920 --> 00:50:43,200
and and have something that's going to

1386
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,360
be successful. You know, whether that's

1387
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,760
tourism, mining, agriculture, whatever

1388
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:49,520
it is it's going to have to be an export

1389
00:50:49,520 --> 00:50:51,040
that comes out of here.

1390
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:52,440
You know, from the recent studies that

1391
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,360
have been done tourism is what we have.

1392
00:50:55,360 --> 00:50:57,280
So, if tourism is what we have we're

1393
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:58,400
going to have to figure out how we're

1394
00:50:58,400 --> 00:50:59,360
going to diversify [clears throat]

1395
00:50:59,360 --> 00:51:01,360
tourism. Right? That should be one of

1396
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,640
the things that this body

1397
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:07,000
prioritize is diversifying tourism. And

1398
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:09,680
if you were to look out right now at our

1399
00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,560
commercial real estate there are very

1400
00:51:11,560 --> 00:51:13,760
few places where you can go ahead and

1401
00:51:13,760 --> 00:51:16,520
start a new tourism business. So, what

1402
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,360
we've are essentially doing is we are

1403
00:51:18,360 --> 00:51:20,000
stopping

1404
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,280
any type of growth that keeps us

1405
00:51:22,280 --> 00:51:26,040
relevant as a tourism destination.

1406
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:27,680
And and and and I and I said it before

1407
00:51:27,680 --> 00:51:29,080
in the planning commission and I'll say

1408
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:32,280
it again. Our job is not to stand in the

1409
00:51:32,280 --> 00:51:34,520
way of business. Right? We need to make

1410
00:51:34,520 --> 00:51:35,760
sure that we're removing these

1411
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:37,640
regulations for our economy so that it

1412
00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,080
can thrive.

1413
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:41,840
Um stopping and and and putting this off

1414
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:44,480
to for another 6 months while we rewrite

1415
00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:46,880
the land use code might seem reasonable

1416
00:51:46,880 --> 00:51:48,280
when you're sitting up here as this

1417
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,280
body, but when you're over there on a

1418
00:51:50,280 --> 00:51:52,040
piece of property trying to make ends

1419
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:54,040
meet with inflation going up and

1420
00:51:54,040 --> 00:51:55,400
everything else that's happening in the

1421
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:58,320
private world, right? It's it's it's an

1422
00:51:58,320 --> 00:52:00,520
eternity waiting for that. And then I

1423
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,040
also just want to get out is how many

1424
00:52:02,040 --> 00:52:04,320
times have we said that to business? How

1425
00:52:04,320 --> 00:52:06,200
many times have we said, "Let's wait

1426
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:08,560
until we have the future land use map.

1427
00:52:08,560 --> 00:52:10,680
Let's wait until this is accomplished.

1428
00:52:10,680 --> 00:52:12,320
Just go ahead and wait until this is

1429
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,960
done." The wait is over. Let's go ahead.

1430
00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:16,600
Let's move remove these restrictions.

1431
00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:18,040
Let's allow business to go ahead and

1432
00:52:18,040 --> 00:52:20,160
drive. Let's support our tourism

1433
00:52:20,160 --> 00:52:22,600
economy, and and let's keep moving.

1434
00:52:22,600 --> 00:52:25,000
Thanks.

1435
00:52:25,000 --> 00:52:26,800
Okay. Any other comments?

1436
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,840
No. Yeah, I'll just make a quick one. Um

1437
00:52:29,840 --> 00:52:32,800
I understand that you're not supportive

1438
00:52:32,800 --> 00:52:37,120
of it, Commissioner Haddeen, but what I take offense to a little bit is

1439
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,240
the fact that you sit here and you say

1440
00:52:39,240 --> 00:52:41,840
that this is bad practices. That

1441
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:43,760
trickles down to staff first. You're

1442
00:52:43,760 --> 00:52:46,000
basically saying staff is not doing a

1443
00:52:46,000 --> 00:52:48,440
good job. And so I I really think that

1444
00:52:48,440 --> 00:52:51,760
words matter. Did I say that? You said

1445
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:51,880
that.

1446
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:52,800
>> I said bad practices.

1447
00:52:52,800 --> 00:52:54,440
>> Yes. And so I'm just saying and then

1448
00:52:54,440 --> 00:52:56,480
also we've got a board that also

1449
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:58,240
approved this. So we we just have to be

1450
00:52:58,240 --> 00:53:00,320
real careful in the words that we use

1451
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,880
because we have good staff at the

1452
00:53:02,880 --> 00:53:04,680
county, and I'm just asking that we

1453
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,800
consider that in the future.

1454
00:53:06,800 --> 00:53:07,520
Okay.

1455
00:53:07,520 --> 00:53:08,576
Mike?

1456
00:53:08,576 --> 00:53:09,160
>> [clears throat]

1457
00:53:09,160 --> 00:53:10,640
>> Did I miss a motion? Excuse me.

1458
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:12,400
>> Yeah, we already have a motion. I think

1459
00:53:12,400 --> 00:53:13,480
you got up in the middle of it. You're

1460
00:53:13,480 --> 00:53:15,000
not supposed to. No. You're supposed to

1461
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:17,100
I ran before you guys did it. To

1462
00:53:17,100 --> 00:53:18,400
[laughter] be quick. Oh, yeah. We got

1463
00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:19,800
it. Yeah, you you left it in the queue.

1464
00:53:19,800 --> 00:53:21,160
There's a motion and a second. Yeah, we

1465
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:22,680
have a motion and a second. So, we're

1466
00:53:22,680 --> 00:53:24,440
going to go ahead and call for a vote.

1467
00:53:24,440 --> 00:53:27,080
So, those in favor of the

1468
00:53:27,080 --> 00:53:29,960
text amendment zoning ordinance change.

1469
00:53:29,960 --> 00:53:31,880
I.

1470
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:33,960
And those opposed?

1471
00:53:33,960 --> 00:53:36,280
All right. It passes 6 to 1 with

1472
00:53:36,280 --> 00:53:38,400
Commissioner Haddeen in opposition.

1473
00:53:38,400 --> 00:53:41,440
Of course it does. And number eight.

1474
00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,280
Cody. All right. I'll take that. We're

1475
00:53:43,280 --> 00:53:44,600
going to go on to consent agenda.

1476
00:53:44,600 --> 00:53:47,212
>> off.

1477
00:53:47,222 --> 00:53:48,560
» [laughter]

1478
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:49,960
>> I'll Prince coming up to help you out.

1479
00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:51,320
I'm going to put on the consent agenda,

1480
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:53,200
but when it was going to talk about the

1481
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,400
pathway we left it. So, I'm sorry to

1482
00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:56,680
make you stick around.

1483
00:53:56,680 --> 00:53:58,600
>> We got a few little changes we want to

1484
00:53:58,600 --> 00:53:59,440
Well, this is exciting.

1485
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:01,920
>> I lied to The community wants to know.

1486
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:03,960
Yeah, so I think that our ultimate ask

1487
00:54:03,960 --> 00:54:05,040
then is that the commission postpone

1488
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:06,480
this until May 5th.

1489
00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:07,600
Um

1490
00:54:07,600 --> 00:54:09,680
The reason being that the um commitment

1491
00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:11,920
letter for the UDOT TAP grant matches

1492
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:14,800
$450,000 of road department money for

1493
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,040
$300,000 worth of TAP grant money and we

1494
00:54:17,040 --> 00:54:18,120
were going to use that for the shoulder

1495
00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:19,960
widening between

1496
00:54:19,960 --> 00:54:22,240
Spanish Trail Drive and Resource

1497
00:54:22,240 --> 00:54:23,920
Boulevard.

1498
00:54:23,920 --> 00:54:27,240
But, we are considering shifting that

1499
00:54:27,240 --> 00:54:29,040
and making that part of the Spanish

1500
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:30,520
Trail Drive multi-use pathway as a way

1501
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:32,800
to close that gap funding. So, it uses

1502
00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:36,000
less of the storm water mitigation fund.

1503
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:37,200
So, anyway, we're splitting up a few

1504
00:54:37,200 --> 00:54:41,600
different options for May May

1505
00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:43,160
for the May 5th meeting. And so, that I

1506
00:54:43,160 --> 00:54:45,880
just wanted to let you guys know that we were working on that, but we

1507
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:47,360
we're going to kind of shift gears on

1508
00:54:47,360 --> 00:54:49,040
this. So,

1509
00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:50,520
if you guys

1510
00:54:50,520 --> 00:54:52,760
No action keeps it going.

1511
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,160
I I just want to make one more point.

1512
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:56,560
One reason we're doing this is to try to

1513
00:54:56,560 --> 00:54:58,720
diversify the funding. This project with

1514
00:54:58,720 --> 00:55:01,120
the Spanish Trail Drive multi-use path

1515
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:02,560
incorporates

1516
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,400
not only just road safety trail, but

1517
00:55:05,400 --> 00:55:07,120
there's a huge storm water perspective

1518
00:55:07,120 --> 00:55:10,480
of it. Um it's a it's a high priority

1519
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:13,120
storm water problem area.

1520
00:55:13,120 --> 00:55:15,040
The widening Spanish Trail Drive,

1521
00:55:15,040 --> 00:55:16,840
although that's awesome and it and it's

1522
00:55:16,840 --> 00:55:19,160
great, I can do that a lot easier in

1523
00:55:19,160 --> 00:55:21,400
house than I can a multi-use path

1524
00:55:21,400 --> 00:55:23,200
project that incorporates

1525
00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:25,880
a tremendous amount of storm drain.

1526
00:55:25,880 --> 00:55:27,600
So, that's that's one reason that

1527
00:55:27,600 --> 00:55:28,880
possibly the shift would be more

1528
00:55:28,880 --> 00:55:30,600
advantageous for the community in that

1529
00:55:30,600 --> 00:55:32,120
area.

1530
00:55:32,120 --> 00:55:33,360
That's great. We don't need a motion to

1531
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:35,680
postpone it, so unless you you had any

1532
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:36,440
more questions.

1533
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,160
>> No, I was just going to say I I totally

1534
00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:39,200
agree. I remember when you when you

1535
00:55:39,200 --> 00:55:43,240
widened the the one section I I thought it was awesome cuz I remember

1536
00:55:43,240 --> 00:55:44,880
like down there all the time, but I

1537
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:47,120
thought it would also be great to to

1538
00:55:47,120 --> 00:55:48,760
incorporate aspects of the pathway into

1539
00:55:48,760 --> 00:55:50,160
that, too, and just kind of kill two

1540
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:51,400
birds with one stone instead of doing

1541
00:55:51,400 --> 00:55:53,600
it. And I think I think we can bite

1542
00:55:53,600 --> 00:55:55,240
those off in small chunks as we go

1543
00:55:55,240 --> 00:55:58,120
rather than a bunch of cap funding to

1544
00:55:58,120 --> 00:56:00,480
fund something that we maybe can handle

1545
00:56:00,480 --> 00:56:03,200
in-house easier.

1546
00:56:03,200 --> 00:56:04,880
So, we don't need a motion. No, we don't

1547
00:56:04,880 --> 00:56:06,400
need a motion carried. Go ahead.

1548
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,120
>> I just wanted to tell Cody I'd had two

1549
00:56:08,120 --> 00:56:10,080
phone calls this week

1550
00:56:10,080 --> 00:56:12,280
commending the road department on the

1551
00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:15,800
work you've been doing. They have said

1552
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:18,120
it's just beautiful and it has really

1553
00:56:18,120 --> 00:56:21,200
improved safety and I said I would make

1554
00:56:21,200 --> 00:56:23,320
sure I tell you and now I get to tell

1555
00:56:23,320 --> 00:56:25,360
you in public so everyone can hear it.

1556
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,760
Well, I I appreciate the public's input.

1557
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,160
That's that's good to hear.

1558
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,160
Yeah, I I know that in in past meetings

1559
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:33,680
we've talked about maybe spending

1560
00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:34,920
virtually all of the storm water

1561
00:56:34,920 --> 00:56:36,320
mitigation fund. I think that if we were

1562
00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:37,680
to move this and this will be a decision

1563
00:56:37,680 --> 00:56:39,200
you guys can make on May 5th, but if we

1564
00:56:39,200 --> 00:56:40,640
were to move some of this funding over

1565
00:56:40,640 --> 00:56:43,880
to that it decreases the spend in the

1566
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,760
storm water mitigation fund and allows

1567
00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:48,160
that to remain with some

1568
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:49,880
level of cushion. I'm not going to

1569
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:51,560
commit to a number right now, but it's

1570
00:56:51,560 --> 00:56:52,760
about a half million dollars that would

1571
00:56:52,760 --> 00:56:54,680
stay in there, so.

1572
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:57,000
And I appreciate you guys

1573
00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,439
doing the background work.

1574
00:57:00,449 --> 00:57:00,920
» [laughter]

1575
00:57:00,920 --> 00:57:01,760
>> One more.

1576
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:03,280
I want to make just one more comment.

1577
00:57:03,280 --> 00:57:05,480
I'd like to see those numbers on the

1578
00:57:05,480 --> 00:57:07,480
storm mitigation when it comes forward

1579
00:57:07,480 --> 00:57:09,760
because if we can do both projects, I

1580
00:57:09,760 --> 00:57:11,440
know that we're working on a cushion

1581
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,600
there, but I don't want to hold up

1582
00:57:14,600 --> 00:57:16,880
Jackson Street if at all possible. I

1583
00:57:16,880 --> 00:57:18,960
mean, we've been waiting a long time on

1584
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:20,360
that one. So, I just would like to see

1585
00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:22,320
all of that laid out. I will say that is

1586
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:24,920
one of the three options that we had and Cody and Maddie and Charlotte met

1587
00:57:24,920 --> 00:57:26,480
this morning about this.

1588
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,720
Um first option that we kind of

1589
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:30,800
considered was

1590
00:57:30,800 --> 00:57:33,240
Jackson Street, Spanish Village Drive,

1591
00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,520
and the shoulder widening. And that

1592
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:36,840
takes stormwater mitigation to the

1593
00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,160
negative. We'd have to commit some

1594
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:40,240
capital improvements money from that.

1595
00:57:40,240 --> 00:57:43,560
The second option that we considered

1596
00:57:43,560 --> 00:57:47,040
was just Spanish Valley Drive and

1597
00:57:47,040 --> 00:57:49,000
Jackson Street.

1598
00:57:49,000 --> 00:57:50,480
And that would leave a cushion in

1599
00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,120
stormwater.

1600
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:53,840
So, Jackson's Jackson

1601
00:57:53,840 --> 00:57:56,320
>> Jackson's on the list. That's That's

1602
00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:59,280
Okay. Yeah. We We already have a bidder.

1603
00:57:59,280 --> 00:58:01,240
We're just waiting to award that based

1604
00:58:01,240 --> 00:58:04,160
off of just trying to figure out what

1605
00:58:04,160 --> 00:58:07,000
not completely exhausting stormwater for

1606
00:58:07,000 --> 00:58:08,920
one project and then you can't complete

1607
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:10,640
others. Right. And the other component

1608
00:58:10,640 --> 00:58:11,680
of that that I wanted to move this to

1609
00:58:11,680 --> 00:58:13,040
May 5th for that Thank you, Cody, cuz

1610
00:58:13,040 --> 00:58:15,040
I'm just I'm remembering this now is the

1611
00:58:15,040 --> 00:58:17,560
design of the sidewalk between Dollar

1612
00:58:17,560 --> 00:58:19,480
General and liquor store. But, I'm going

1613
00:58:19,480 --> 00:58:20,600
to try to get Dan to get us a bid on

1614
00:58:20,600 --> 00:58:24,000
that so that we'll know how much

1615
00:58:24,000 --> 00:58:26,120
that the design could cost on that. So,

1616
00:58:26,120 --> 00:58:26,760
we'll

1617
00:58:26,760 --> 00:58:28,120
partner with the city on that project.

1618
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:29,680
So, that's why I just wanted to have

1619
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:31,560
this discussion and then push it to May

1620
00:58:31,560 --> 00:58:32,880
5th so we can get answers on all that

1621
00:58:32,880 --> 00:58:34,240
stuff.

1622
00:58:34,240 --> 00:58:36,680
Good figures. Thank you. So, once again,

1623
00:58:36,680 --> 00:58:38,600
that's the three projects and we got the

1624
00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:41,080
Spanish Valley Drive uh pathway, Jackson

1625
00:58:41,080 --> 00:58:42,840
Street, and then the sidewalk. Is there

1626
00:58:42,840 --> 00:58:43,920
something else that I was missing in

1627
00:58:43,920 --> 00:58:44,760
there?

1628
00:58:44,760 --> 00:58:46,080
The sidewalk's different because that

1629
00:58:46,080 --> 00:58:47,880
would be being a change order on the

1630
00:58:47,880 --> 00:58:50,000
Jackson Street project. And then the

1631
00:58:50,000 --> 00:58:51,520
shoulder widening from Spanish Valley

1632
00:58:51,520 --> 00:58:53,840
Trail back to Resource that I think we

1633
00:58:53,840 --> 00:58:55,520
have have talked about amongst ourselves

1634
00:58:55,520 --> 00:58:56,480
and and this will come back to you guys

1635
00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:58,000
on May 5th, but uh

1636
00:58:58,000 --> 00:58:59,520
we think Cody could do that in-house.

1637
00:58:59,520 --> 00:59:00,360
So.

1638
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,000
We just want to discuss a little bit and

1639
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:04,120
see where our finances are before we

1640
00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:05,800
commit to that extension. But, that

1641
00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:08,120
would end up not It doesn't end up

1642
00:59:08,120 --> 00:59:09,280
happening this year, it'll happen next

1643
00:59:09,280 --> 00:59:11,240
year. So.

1644
00:59:11,240 --> 00:59:12,120
Thanks.

1645
00:59:12,120 --> 00:59:14,280
Okay. Thank you. Cody, you stay in the

1646
00:59:14,280 --> 00:59:16,240
hot seat there is for number nine, which

1647
00:59:16,240 --> 00:59:17,520
is the Jones

1648
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,360
Boulder Avenue lower stormwater drainage

1649
00:59:20,360 --> 00:59:22,960
line from Pass Highway 191 to Pack

1650
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:24,840
Creek.

1651
00:59:24,840 --> 00:59:26,480
Yeah, this does align with what what him

1652
00:59:26,480 --> 00:59:28,280
were just talking about.

1653
00:59:28,280 --> 00:59:29,760
Um

1654
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:32,160
Okay. Pump the brakes a little bit. The,

1655
00:59:32,160 --> 00:59:33,520
you know, trying to ensure some of these

1656
00:59:33,520 --> 00:59:35,000
storm water projects that we have

1657
00:59:35,000 --> 00:59:38,240
dedicated quite a bit of time and

1658
00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:40,360
finances into design.

1659
00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:42,750
Um

1660
00:59:42,760 --> 00:59:44,560
The Boulder project is another

1661
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:46,040
multi-million dollar project if you

1662
00:59:46,040 --> 00:59:47,520
tried to do it from the base and all the

1663
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:49,480
way to Pack Creek. Um something that's

1664
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:50,720
going to be bigger than the road

1665
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:51,880
department's going to be able to take

1666
00:59:51,880 --> 00:59:52,880
on.

1667
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,336
Contract. Um

1668
00:59:55,336 --> 00:59:55,760
>> [clears throat and cough]

1669
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:58,480
>> We kind of already went into

1670
00:59:58,480 --> 00:59:59,640
a little bit of an agreement with the

1671
00:59:59,640 --> 01:00:01,200
Desert Rivers Credit Union to try to

1672
01:00:01,200 --> 01:00:03,680
bring that 48-in pipe that came under

1673
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:04,760
the highway

1674
01:00:04,760 --> 01:00:06,800
in the '90s, connect that, at least get

1675
01:00:06,800 --> 01:00:07,840
it through the Desert Rivers

1676
01:00:07,840 --> 01:00:09,880
infrastructure into kind of the Rick's

1677
01:00:09,880 --> 01:00:11,800
Glass Vacant's area to where we can

1678
01:00:11,800 --> 01:00:15,040
easily tie onto that to maybe split this

1679
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:16,560
into phases.

1680
01:00:16,560 --> 01:00:18,280
Um the phase that I'm looking at is

1681
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:22,280
maybe trying to do Highway 191 north

1682
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:24,080
because we already have the

1683
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:25,240
100

1684
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,760
70 ft 200 ft of pipe that's under the

1685
01:00:27,760 --> 01:00:29,680
Desert Rivers corridor.

1686
01:00:29,680 --> 01:00:31,640
Being able to tie onto that,

1687
01:00:31,640 --> 01:00:34,200
get some easements and right-of-way with

1688
01:00:34,200 --> 01:00:36,480
um Rick Thompson at Rick's Glass to

1689
01:00:36,480 --> 01:00:37,720
where we can go through their parking

1690
01:00:37,720 --> 01:00:39,360
lot, which is in the master storm drain

1691
01:00:39,360 --> 01:00:40,800
plan. I mean, that's kind of the way the

1692
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:42,240
drainage goes.

1693
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:43,840
Um but then get that down to Antiquity

1694
01:00:43,840 --> 01:00:45,640
Lane under Bittle and then be able to

1695
01:00:45,640 --> 01:00:47,680
take it on down to Pack Creek

1696
01:00:47,680 --> 01:00:48,920
with a

1697
01:00:48,920 --> 01:00:50,800
um stream alteration permit to dump it

1698
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:52,680
into Pack Creek there.

1699
01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:54,320
I think that is something that could

1700
01:00:54,320 --> 01:00:56,360
reasonably be bid off rather than

1701
01:00:56,360 --> 01:00:58,880
looking at a full-scale project of

1702
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:00,800
Boulder all the way down Boulder with

1703
01:01:00,800 --> 01:01:02,440
all the right-of-way.

1704
01:01:02,440 --> 01:01:03,920
Of course, pipe's already under the

1705
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:05,720
highway, but I'm I'm just thinking maybe

1706
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:07,120
we can split this into a couple of

1707
01:01:07,120 --> 01:01:09,600
phases. The lower would benefit sooner

1708
01:01:09,600 --> 01:01:11,000
because you can put water into it

1709
01:01:11,000 --> 01:01:12,560
because it'll have an outlet into Pack

1710
01:01:12,560 --> 01:01:13,800
Creek.

1711
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,080
Instead of starting at the top and then

1712
01:01:16,080 --> 01:01:17,040
you don't have anywhere to take the

1713
01:01:17,040 --> 01:01:19,080
water.

1714
01:01:19,080 --> 01:01:21,000
So, in doing this, I'm sorry, the the

1715
01:01:21,000 --> 01:01:22,440
cost on this,

1716
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:24,080
um we have Jones and Demille with an

1717
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:25,800
assignment order. I haven't pulled the

1718
01:01:25,800 --> 01:01:28,360
trigger on this yet, but it's I think we

1719
01:01:28,360 --> 01:01:31,000
had about 30 30 to 50,000 we kind of had

1720
01:01:31,000 --> 01:01:34,480
set aside. This comes in at 20 26,020

1721
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:36,880
dollars for the kind of initial

1722
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:39,920
assessment of pipe storm drain boxes and

1723
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:41,040
then of course right away and all that

1724
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:42,440
stuff would be on top of that once we

1725
01:01:42,440 --> 01:01:44,960
get more of a design. Mine says 28,020

1726
01:01:44,960 --> 01:01:46,040
dollars.

1727
01:01:46,040 --> 01:01:47,360
Oh, does it say 28? Do I have it on

1728
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,350
there?

1729
01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,400
Oh, 28,020. This is 28,020 dollars. I

1730
01:01:53,400 --> 01:01:57,070
apologize. I just printed this out.

1731
01:01:57,080 --> 01:02:00,710
28,020 dollars.

1732
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:02,640
Okay, Mike, go ahead. I move to approve

1733
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,360
the task order for the Bolder Avenue

1734
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:07,120
lower storm drain line design for Jones

1735
01:02:07,120 --> 01:02:10,400
and Demille in the fiscal impact 28,000

1736
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:11,680
20 dollars.

1737
01:02:11,680 --> 01:02:12,320
Okay.

1738
01:02:12,320 --> 01:02:15,400
And do I have a second?

1739
01:02:15,400 --> 01:02:19,040
Any discussion questions?

1740
01:02:19,040 --> 01:02:21,040
Okay. I'll go ahead and call for a vote.

1741
01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,560
All in favor?

1742
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:25,040
That passes 7-0.

1743
01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:25,400
Thank you.

1744
01:02:25,400 --> 01:02:26,280
>> Appreciate you guys all bringing this

1745
01:02:26,280 --> 01:02:28,560
back when I have some firm figures and

1746
01:02:28,560 --> 01:02:29,760
we can put together a plan for the

1747
01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:31,440
project. So, it sounds like we'll see

1748
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:33,560
you next meeting anyways. Yes,

1749
01:02:33,560 --> 01:02:35,560
hopefully.

1750
01:02:35,560 --> 01:02:39,560
All right, number 10 is our 2026-2027

1751
01:02:39,560 --> 01:02:42,760
CIB list prioritization.

1752
01:02:42,760 --> 01:02:44,800
Mission Administrator

1753
01:02:44,800 --> 01:02:46,600
can talk to us about this one. Yes.

1754
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:50,240
Okay. Um, we have a listing of nine

1755
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:52,040
different projects.

1756
01:02:52,040 --> 01:02:54,320
Uh, the first is Grand County's uh,

1757
01:02:54,320 --> 01:02:57,320
Spanish Valley multi-use pathway.

1758
01:02:57,320 --> 01:02:58,960
Uh, number two is solid waste Grand

1759
01:02:58,960 --> 01:03:01,880
County transfer station expansion.

1760
01:03:01,880 --> 01:03:03,520
Number three is Canyonlands Regional

1761
01:03:03,520 --> 01:03:07,400
Airport for a utilities master plan.

1762
01:03:07,400 --> 01:03:08,840
Number four is healthcare special

1763
01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,040
service district Moab area partnership

1764
01:03:11,040 --> 01:03:12,880
for seniors.

1765
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:14,440
Number five is Castle Valley Fire

1766
01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:17,800
Department for a fire vehicle purchase.

1767
01:03:17,800 --> 01:03:19,880
Number six is Thompson Springs Special

1768
01:03:19,880 --> 01:03:21,640
Service District planning grant for

1769
01:03:21,640 --> 01:03:23,680
utilities.

1770
01:03:23,680 --> 01:03:25,320
Number seven is Moab Valley Fire

1771
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,400
Protection District for a fire vehicle

1772
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:28,800
purchase.

1773
01:03:28,800 --> 01:03:30,640
Number eight is Grand Water and Sewer

1774
01:03:30,640 --> 01:03:33,000
Service Agency for a planning grant for

1775
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:36,160
utilities at the Umtrax site. And number

1776
01:03:36,160 --> 01:03:38,040
nine, the final, is Grand Water and

1777
01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:40,560
Sewer Service Agency for a vac sewer

1778
01:03:40,560 --> 01:03:43,640
jetter truck purchase.

1779
01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:46,560
Good job. Um well, I think I I I like

1780
01:03:46,560 --> 01:03:47,800
this process. We all got a chance to

1781
01:03:47,800 --> 01:03:49,600
weigh in on this and then and rank it.

1782
01:03:49,600 --> 01:03:52,000
So, the rankings are a reflection of the

1783
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:53,680
commission as a whole.

1784
01:03:53,680 --> 01:03:55,760
And on that note, I would move to

1785
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:58,320
approve the 2026 to 2027 CIB county

1786
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:01,480
priority list as presented. Okay.

1787
01:04:01,480 --> 01:04:03,080
Sorry, Mike. I didn't see your hand cuz

1788
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:04,080
you're okay.

1789
01:04:04,080 --> 01:04:06,000
All right, he's good. I'll second or

1790
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:08,000
we're going to get married the second.

1791
01:04:08,000 --> 01:04:09,840
Just some provided information. I don't

1792
01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:11,520
know if everyone was in the room. Me,

1793
01:04:11,520 --> 01:04:13,240
Trish, Bill

1794
01:04:13,240 --> 01:04:14,880
were in the room. We were provided with

1795
01:04:14,880 --> 01:04:16,360
some information that

1796
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:19,160
uh to quote uh

1797
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:21,680
our rankings doesn't mean does not mean

1798
01:04:21,680 --> 01:04:25,920
diddly squat uh to the CIB.

1799
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:27,920
Our rankings will be uh based on

1800
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:29,240
we can base some other decisions off

1801
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:32,440
that, but our rankings don't

1802
01:04:32,440 --> 01:04:34,040
uh

1803
01:04:34,040 --> 01:04:34,680
That's what Todd

1804
01:04:34,680 --> 01:04:38,200
>> adjust their position. Yeah.

1805
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:39,240
So, but they just take them into

1806
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,040
consideration. I mean, this is like a

1807
01:04:41,040 --> 01:04:42,520
support letter Yeah, just a support

1808
01:04:42,520 --> 01:04:44,640
letter. Okay, so we had a second by Mary

1809
01:04:44,640 --> 01:04:46,280
and then he had a comment. No, that was

1810
01:04:46,280 --> 01:04:46,814
it. That was it.

1811
01:04:46,814 --> 01:04:47,880
>> [laughter]

1812
01:04:47,880 --> 01:04:50,640
>> All right, any other good discussion?

1813
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:53,360
Okay, let's call for a vote on the

1814
01:04:53,360 --> 01:04:56,480
CIB list. All in favor?

1815
01:04:56,480 --> 01:04:59,400
Aye, that passes 7-0.

1816
01:04:59,400 --> 01:05:02,560
And our last one for tonight

1817
01:05:02,560 --> 01:05:04,400
is number 11 and this is the resolution

1818
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:06,240
amending the bylaws of the Canyonlands

1819
01:05:06,240 --> 01:05:08,720
Health Care Special Service District and

1820
01:05:08,720 --> 01:05:13,200
I am the liaison for that district.

1821
01:05:13,200 --> 01:05:14,640
And they just did some cleanup on their

1822
01:05:14,640 --> 01:05:15,960
bylaws.

1823
01:05:15,960 --> 01:05:17,120
Um

1824
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,640
one thing to note is we couldn't find

1825
01:05:19,640 --> 01:05:22,720
the resolution that approved the the

1826
01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:24,560
bylaws that they currently were acting

1827
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:26,920
under. And so I don't know if those ever

1828
01:05:26,920 --> 01:05:28,680
came before the board and they might not

1829
01:05:28,680 --> 01:05:30,160
have known that they needed to do that.

1830
01:05:30,160 --> 01:05:34,080
But anyways, so that's noted in the um

1831
01:05:34,080 --> 01:05:37,400
resolution. And the we have the current

1832
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,280
bylaws that were they were acting under.

1833
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:42,480
Um and then the changes and those

1834
01:05:42,480 --> 01:05:44,160
changes are listed in the agenda

1835
01:05:44,160 --> 01:05:46,520
summary. It was they were minor so they

1836
01:05:46,520 --> 01:05:49,120
added a phrase um the the document we

1837
01:05:49,120 --> 01:05:52,080
reflect the name change of us, the

1838
01:05:52,080 --> 01:05:54,520
council to commission, and then some

1839
01:05:54,520 --> 01:05:56,920
term expiration dates.

1840
01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:58,600
The chief administrative officer, a

1841
01:05:58,600 --> 01:06:00,640
privacy officer,

1842
01:06:00,640 --> 01:06:02,600
um a couple representatives that they've

1843
01:06:02,600 --> 01:06:06,280
added this year. And then we moved our

1844
01:06:06,280 --> 01:06:09,720
meetings to some other another location.

1845
01:06:09,720 --> 01:06:11,040
And they didn't prepare the signature

1846
01:06:11,040 --> 01:06:13,320
portion and then they just standardized

1847
01:06:13,320 --> 01:06:15,480
the formatting. So it wasn't a lot of

1848
01:06:15,480 --> 01:06:18,800
changes to this particular one.

1849
01:06:18,800 --> 01:06:19,760
Mike.

1850
01:06:19,760 --> 01:06:21,120
I'd like to make the motion. I move to

1851
01:06:21,120 --> 01:06:22,520
approve the resolution amending the

1852
01:06:22,520 --> 01:06:24,640
bylaws of the Canyonlands Health Care

1853
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:26,760
Special Service District.

1854
01:06:26,760 --> 01:06:29,240
And second by Brian. Okay. Any other

1855
01:06:29,240 --> 01:06:32,070
discussion?

1856
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:34,160
Okay. All in favor?

1857
01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:37,320
And that passes unanimously.

1858
01:06:37,320 --> 01:06:38,720
All right, we don't have any discussion

1859
01:06:38,720 --> 01:06:42,960
items this evening and we are really

1860
01:06:42,960 --> 01:06:44,720
ahead of time, but I'm still not going

1861
01:06:44,720 --> 01:06:46,280
to have us read all of our commissioner

1862
01:06:46,280 --> 01:06:48,560
reports. But if anyone has anything in

1863
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:50,360
their commissioner report that they find

1864
01:06:50,360 --> 01:06:51,680
is interesting and want to share with

1865
01:06:51,680 --> 01:06:53,480
the commission staff, go ahead and

1866
01:06:53,480 --> 01:06:54,880
start us off.

1867
01:06:54,880 --> 01:06:56,880
Cool. I just wanted to highlight one of

1868
01:06:56,880 --> 01:06:58,600
my things was Spring Spruce Up this

1869
01:06:58,600 --> 01:07:00,720
year. It's in its fourth year.

1870
01:07:00,720 --> 01:07:02,560
Uh I think it's a fantastic event. We

1871
01:07:02,560 --> 01:07:04,600
had over 100 volunteers going out and

1872
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:06,960
doing various community projects, um

1873
01:07:06,960 --> 01:07:09,400
beautification, trail work. Uh, the one

1874
01:07:09,400 --> 01:07:11,400
I worked on was over at Rotary Park

1875
01:07:11,400 --> 01:07:13,280
planting uh, native species to help

1876
01:07:13,280 --> 01:07:14,880
shore up those banks over there to help

1877
01:07:14,880 --> 01:07:17,240
with with flood mitigation. I had some

1878
01:07:17,240 --> 01:07:20,040
great conversations, met met a couple of

1879
01:07:20,040 --> 01:07:21,400
tourists who were here helping out and

1880
01:07:21,400 --> 01:07:22,920
also members of the community that I

1881
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:25,840
normally wouldn't um, do that with. And

1882
01:07:25,840 --> 01:07:28,360
so, it's I think it's super cool. Again,

1883
01:07:28,360 --> 01:07:29,640
it's in its fourth year. I think highly

1884
01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:32,880
successful and anyone um,

1885
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:34,880
is able to participate next year, then I

1886
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:36,800
would very much recommend it.

1887
01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,520
Awesome. Mike.

1888
01:07:38,520 --> 01:07:39,680
Uh,

1889
01:07:39,680 --> 01:07:41,560
continual shameless plug for the county

1890
01:07:41,560 --> 01:07:44,040
fair. I had uh, several businesses uh,

1891
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:47,400
reach out uh, and has asked uh, they did

1892
01:07:47,400 --> 01:07:50,040
not receive information on how to uh,

1893
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:53,720
one, be a vendor, two, uh, to donate to

1894
01:07:53,720 --> 01:07:56,760
the county fair. Uh, I do have boxes of

1895
01:07:56,760 --> 01:07:59,160
county fair vendor volunteer experience

1896
01:07:59,160 --> 01:08:01,200
cards to hand out to all commissioners.

1897
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,080
If you do hear this,

1898
01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:06,760
uh, that QR code will actually go to

1899
01:08:06,760 --> 01:08:07,880
uh,

1900
01:08:07,880 --> 01:08:11,520
will actually go to how to uh, sponsor,

1901
01:08:11,520 --> 01:08:14,040
promote, volunteer at the event. Uh, it

1902
01:08:14,040 --> 01:08:15,560
has all the information. So, if you

1903
01:08:15,560 --> 01:08:17,720
could get those out, it would help the

1904
01:08:17,720 --> 01:08:19,759
county fair.

1905
01:08:19,759 --> 01:08:21,520
That'd be great. Mary.

1906
01:08:21,520 --> 01:08:24,560
Just a quick just an interesting uh,

1907
01:08:24,560 --> 01:08:26,920
there has been at the solid waste

1908
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,520
special service district these last few

1909
01:08:29,520 --> 01:08:32,960
months have been the biggest volume

1910
01:08:32,960 --> 01:08:35,839
of uh, solid waste

1911
01:08:35,839 --> 01:08:37,400
in the history.

1912
01:08:37,400 --> 01:08:39,040
It has just

1913
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,759
uh, partly because we've had a very

1914
01:08:41,759 --> 01:08:44,560
you know, good uh, tourists. They got

1915
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:46,560
you know, they got a lot of tourists and

1916
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:50,359
the amount of building that's going on.

1917
01:08:50,359 --> 01:08:51,880
I mean it is

1918
01:08:51,880 --> 01:08:53,240
highest

1919
01:08:53,240 --> 01:08:54,960
it's ever been.

1920
01:08:54,960 --> 01:08:57,319
Warm winter. Brian.

1921
01:08:57,319 --> 01:09:00,400
I'll just keep it short.

1922
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:02,200
Yeah, I I um,

1923
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:03,560
I wasn't able to get it on my

1924
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:05,040
commissioner report, but there was a

1925
01:09:05,040 --> 01:09:08,640
Colorado River Authority of Utah meeting

1926
01:09:08,640 --> 01:09:11,200
that had took place at 1:00 today. And

1927
01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:15,440
so, just a couple of updates. So, the first big one is is that the upper

1928
01:09:15,440 --> 01:09:18,120
basin commissioners met this afternoon

1929
01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,480
to decide the drill of the drought

1930
01:09:20,480 --> 01:09:22,520
resistance operations that are going to

1931
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:25,319
be taking place for 2026.

1932
01:09:25,319 --> 01:09:28,200
I'm sorry, for the 2027 water 2026 water

1933
01:09:28,200 --> 01:09:30,640
year. So, starting right now, um the

1934
01:09:30,640 --> 01:09:33,120
Lake Powell has dropped below the level

1935
01:09:33,120 --> 01:09:35,720
of 3525

1936
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:38,560
um to where the this this bill or this

1937
01:09:38,560 --> 01:09:39,120
um

1938
01:09:39,120 --> 01:09:41,680
this policy will take place. And so,

1939
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:42,759
what they're going to be talking about

1940
01:09:42,759 --> 01:09:44,480
is two different things. First is going

1941
01:09:44,480 --> 01:09:46,480
to be the releases that are going to be

1942
01:09:46,480 --> 01:09:49,880
required from or from Flaming Gorge. So,

1943
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:51,480
majority of the releases will be coming

1944
01:09:51,480 --> 01:09:53,680
from Flaming Gorge. And then, the second

1945
01:09:53,680 --> 01:09:56,920
is the reduction in uh um outflow down

1946
01:09:56,920 --> 01:10:01,560
into Lake Powell. So, right now, what I think is probably happened right

1947
01:10:01,560 --> 01:10:02,720
now is we're going to be looking at a

1948
01:10:02,720 --> 01:10:05,040
million acre-feet coming out of the

1949
01:10:05,040 --> 01:10:07,200
Flaming Gorge. And with that, they're

1950
01:10:07,200 --> 01:10:11,320
also looking at using the SEIS SEIS.

1951
01:10:11,320 --> 01:10:13,840
I think that's 6E that follows that. And

1952
01:10:13,840 --> 01:10:15,960
they're going to use that to reduce the

1953
01:10:15,960 --> 01:10:18,600
outflow into Lake down to the lower

1954
01:10:18,600 --> 01:10:21,920
basin down to 6 million acre-feet. Um

1955
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:23,488
with that

1956
01:10:23,488 --> 01:10:23,800
>> [clears throat]

1957
01:10:23,800 --> 01:10:26,080
>> prediction, it's looks like we'll be

1958
01:10:26,080 --> 01:10:28,720
below the 8250

1959
01:10:28,720 --> 01:10:32,720
um or 82.5 that's uh required on October

1960
01:10:32,720 --> 01:10:37,040
1st. Um most probably 8125

1961
01:10:37,040 --> 01:10:39,960
come October. And so, that will be the

1962
01:10:39,960 --> 01:10:41,800
multi-million-dollar question of what

1963
01:10:41,800 --> 01:10:44,560
happens when the upper basin does not

1964
01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:49,950
meet the Colorado River Compact.

1965
01:10:49,960 --> 01:10:52,240
Okay, I just have an update from the

1966
01:10:52,240 --> 01:10:54,320
chamber. The golf tournament that they

1967
01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:56,480
have for their annual fundraiser is on

1968
01:10:56,480 --> 01:10:59,480
May 8th, and they still have some spots

1969
01:10:59,480 --> 01:11:02,000
open. So, if anyone wants to do that,

1970
01:11:02,000 --> 01:11:03,640
that's on May 8th.

1971
01:11:03,640 --> 01:11:06,750
And

1972
01:11:06,760 --> 01:11:09,080
I think that that's all.

1973
01:11:09,080 --> 01:11:09,800
So.

1974
01:11:09,800 --> 01:11:12,000
I'll give a quick one. Trisha and I were

1975
01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:14,640
at Canyon Country Partnership

1976
01:11:14,640 --> 01:11:16,400
meeting. I don't remember what day that

1977
01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:18,440
was. It was I do know it was cold and

1978
01:11:18,440 --> 01:11:20,640
windy, but we got to do a little tour.

1979
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,240
It was a lot of history.

1980
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:26,480
Um part of it was done by Wade Allison

1981
01:11:26,480 --> 01:11:28,920
that um is helping put together our

1982
01:11:28,920 --> 01:11:30,680
motorized trail

1983
01:11:30,680 --> 01:11:32,520
and non-motorized, I think, crew for

1984
01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:34,720
doing the work here. But, Cottonwood

1985
01:11:34,720 --> 01:11:36,600
Wash, we actually got to go out and see

1986
01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:38,680
where they brought the the wagons

1987
01:11:38,680 --> 01:11:40,640
through, where people went in and out of

1988
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:41,960
the swell.

1989
01:11:41,960 --> 01:11:44,600
And then um a lot of information about

1990
01:11:44,600 --> 01:11:47,120
the Elk Mountain Mission, which was

1991
01:11:47,120 --> 01:11:50,080
basically Moab. It was the the first

1992
01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:51,600
group of

1993
01:11:51,600 --> 01:11:53,840
white settlers, I guess you would call

1994
01:11:53,840 --> 01:11:55,320
them, that came into the valley here.

1995
01:11:55,320 --> 01:11:58,320
But, I I learned a lot. I

1996
01:11:58,320 --> 01:12:00,760
On that ridge, I kind of froze when we

1997
01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:01,739
were there.

1998
01:12:01,739 --> 01:12:02,440
>> [laughter]

1999
01:12:02,440 --> 01:12:05,320
>> He um he has a podcast. I can't remember

2000
01:12:05,320 --> 01:12:06,920
what it's called, but he does have a

2001
01:12:06,920 --> 01:12:08,520
podcast. I'll maybe try to find it and

2002
01:12:08,520 --> 01:12:10,480
pass it on. I've heard it's really good.

2003
01:12:10,480 --> 01:12:12,400
>> It is good.

2004
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:14,560
He has a lot of history about this area.

2005
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:17,600
He's given me two or three books um

2006
01:12:17,600 --> 01:12:19,480
In Pursuit of the McCartys, which was a

2007
01:12:19,480 --> 01:12:21,920
gang of bank robbers that came through

2008
01:12:21,920 --> 01:12:24,520
here all the time. And so, he just he's

2009
01:12:24,520 --> 01:12:27,280
quite the historian. And tell us yeah,

2010
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:28,280
really

2011
01:12:28,280 --> 01:12:29,520
intriguing stories.

2012
01:12:29,520 --> 01:12:31,800
>> Yeah, yeah. He he makes you happy that

2013
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:34,320
you learn sir. I mean, I learned a lot.

2014
01:12:34,320 --> 01:12:35,080
I had a

2015
01:12:35,080 --> 01:12:37,480
good time at Smith Cabin. I've never

2016
01:12:37,480 --> 01:12:39,240
been to that cabin before out there

2017
01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:41,520
either. And so,

2018
01:12:41,520 --> 01:12:43,640
they had two cabins out there. One kind

2019
01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:45,280
of falling down that was built out of

2020
01:12:45,280 --> 01:12:47,320
old railroad ties, but then the early

2021
01:12:47,320 --> 01:12:49,360
one were hand-hewn logs. That's

2022
01:12:49,360 --> 01:12:51,880
Cottonwood, yeah. It's pretty impressive

2023
01:12:51,880 --> 01:12:53,920
for the time. This off of six out there

2024
01:12:53,920 --> 01:12:55,160
where you wouldn't think there's

2025
01:12:55,160 --> 01:12:56,720
anything and there's just a little

2026
01:12:56,720 --> 01:13:00,040
spring there. So, of course there was a settlement and a school.

2027
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:01,880
Yeah. Very cool. I think Steven had an

2028
01:13:01,880 --> 01:13:04,160
update for us as well. Yep. Um

2029
01:13:04,160 --> 01:13:06,360
it's the beginning of conference season

2030
01:13:06,360 --> 01:13:09,000
for myself. Um I've been delayed on a

2031
01:13:09,000 --> 01:13:10,720
few different items for the commission.

2032
01:13:10,720 --> 01:13:11,960
I apologize about that. I went on

2033
01:13:11,960 --> 01:13:14,360
vacation and then uh returned and my

2034
01:13:14,360 --> 01:13:16,240
grandfather passed away.

2035
01:13:16,240 --> 01:13:17,600
Um

2036
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:21,440
and and so uh went to UPC, um Utah

2037
01:13:21,440 --> 01:13:23,720
Prosecution Conference. I'll go to UAC

2038
01:13:23,720 --> 01:13:26,280
next week. In May I have the CJC

2039
01:13:26,280 --> 01:13:29,560
Symposium and then there's the Texas

2040
01:13:29,560 --> 01:13:31,200
I've mentioned a few times the Texas

2041
01:13:31,200 --> 01:13:33,280
outfit called ICCR, which is the

2042
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:35,440
Institute for Coordinated Community

2043
01:13:35,440 --> 01:13:37,320
Response to Domestic Violence. It's a

2044
01:13:37,320 --> 01:13:40,200
mouthful. Uh they've been providing uh

2045
01:13:40,200 --> 01:13:42,960
trainings and and assistance to us for

2046
01:13:42,960 --> 01:13:45,000
the whole year and brought in speakers.

2047
01:13:45,000 --> 01:13:46,960
They've been phenomenal. That wraps up

2048
01:13:46,960 --> 01:13:49,360
today. If commissioners have requests, I

2049
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:53,880
will be out I'll be working um while I'm from my trainings. Uh but hopefully

2050
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:55,360
I'll be able to give you guys an update

2051
01:13:55,360 --> 01:13:57,280
from the attorney's perspective on all

2052
01:13:57,280 --> 01:13:58,520
the legislative changes that have

2053
01:13:58,520 --> 01:14:00,680
happened um over the past year. There's

2054
01:14:00,680 --> 01:14:01,760
been a lot of changes with the

2055
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:04,880
prosecution elements of it. Um but if

2056
01:14:04,880 --> 01:14:06,800
there's a delay in in getting back to

2057
01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:08,280
everybody, I apologize. I went on

2058
01:14:08,280 --> 01:14:10,200
vacation and we came back and had that

2059
01:14:10,200 --> 01:14:12,040
uh the family matter and so I've been

2060
01:14:12,040 --> 01:14:14,120
behind. I I apologize for you guys. I

2061
01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:15,680
know we've got a couple meetings. If

2062
01:14:15,680 --> 01:14:17,080
commissioners have request to write

2063
01:14:17,080 --> 01:14:19,120
items, let me know. Um I'm not

2064
01:14:19,120 --> 01:14:21,840
intentionally uh not responding to

2065
01:14:21,840 --> 01:14:23,520
folks. So, that's all I got. Okay. How

2066
01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:27,440
about Mark or Gabe? Do you guys have any

2067
01:14:27,440 --> 01:14:30,000
updates, reports?

2068
01:14:30,000 --> 01:14:31,840
We're still working to fill another uh

2069
01:14:31,840 --> 01:14:34,600
building inspector position. So, uh

2070
01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:37,040
we haven't forgotten that. We're just

2071
01:14:37,040 --> 01:14:41,080
Our building inspector's gone again? No, we're still We have another one. We

2072
01:14:41,080 --> 01:14:42,640
have another position that we're working

2073
01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:44,181
>> left yesterday.

2074
01:14:44,181 --> 01:14:45,240
>> [laughter]

2075
01:14:45,240 --> 01:14:48,200
>> Commissioner McAndless, that's correct.

2076
01:14:48,200 --> 01:14:49,200
Okay.

2077
01:14:49,200 --> 01:14:50,640
All right. Do we have Is anybody online

2078
01:14:50,640 --> 01:14:51,720
that wants to have a citizen's view

2079
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:54,800
here? Nobody.

2080
01:14:54,800 --> 01:14:56,360
Just how it is. Yeah, there's nobody

2081
01:14:56,360 --> 01:14:56,880
here anyway.

2082
01:14:56,880 --> 01:14:57,800
>> Well, nobody's here. I thought if they

2083
01:14:57,800 --> 01:14:59,120
were online and they wanted to talk, I

2084
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:01,000
would let them talk. Okay. Larry's the

2085
01:15:01,000 --> 01:15:04,280
only one that is. We are Yeah. Well, he

2086
01:15:04,280 --> 01:15:06,200
You don't want to comment today, so all

2087
01:15:06,200 --> 01:15:07,760
right. Well, this meeting is adjourned

2088
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:11,040
at 5:15 on March 21st.

2089
01:15:11,040 --> 01:15:15,000
I think I record President and only