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You hear me?

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» Call to order uh at 3:59.

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Citizen speaker

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Any citizens to be heard?

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>> Is there anybody online?

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>> No.

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>> Okay.

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>> I motion and Chad probably can help.

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>> Motion to adopt.

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Approval of the minutes.

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» I make motion to approve the minutes we

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made for us 2026.

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>> I second.

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>> All right.

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Everybody in favor?

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>> And Bill has a roll.

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>> There she go.

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>> I

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» We're just approving minutes right now.

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So

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>> It's already It's already It's already

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been moved and seconded. We're going by

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that clock, so we're a minute end.

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>> You want the nice people in?

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>> AJ and Jason.

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» We got a little eager.

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» Yeah, everybody

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on favor.

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Thank you.

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That's the new middle school.

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All right, there you go.

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It's up to you, Bill.

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>> [laughter]

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>> All right.

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Who carried the change stadium?

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>> Okay.

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» All right.

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Biggest citizen to be heard on the

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agenda.

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All right, so airport director report.

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>> All right, let's do that.

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So, you've got um

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Yeah, what we're going to try and do

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here is track

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last year to this year with every

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statistical category that we can find.

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that jump out

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is the part where employments

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dropped from last year after a huge

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increase in March.

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Looks like we're down from last year in

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flowage fees,

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we've got a similar situation where we've been down

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since March.

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>> Which What page are you on right now?

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>> Oh, sorry. I'm looking at this this this

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a steady increase in

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>> I have a comment on the fuel flowage

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fees as well.

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>> Yeah, I wanted to get into that a little

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bit. There's a couple of a couple of

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um because we're seeing that our

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dipped significantly,

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and yet our

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uh fuel flowage has

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know that it's coincidentally

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that both fuel and enplanements

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uh changed their trajectory right after

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the county uh made the announcement to

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let me know when I can talk. I think you

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and Reston can both weigh in on this.

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Let everybody know the DOT is the one

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who's going to make that decision,

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though. And hopefully, they're going to

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look at our

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uh at the county's recommendation and do

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what the community want, but

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that decision has not been made.

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or Denver Air Connections could be our

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carrier for the amount. It's a DOT

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decision. The the money all came in

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pretty even. Denver Air Connections is

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actually about the lowest

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cost uh to the Fed.

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So, we're still waiting to see what

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>> And that should be this week, right?

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>> It should It should It should have been

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>> And it just hasn't come out. We check

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the docket every day

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if if it's happened yet. It still hasn't

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happened. So, it could very easily be

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that Contour is still our airline. So, I

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want I want to we want to try and

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maintain

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that relationship even if they aren't

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chosen by DOT to be our carrier.

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at-risk flights if they chose to do it.

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um at the airport. We certainly want to

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encourage that any way that we can.

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until DOT kind of makes their decision,

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away. I haven't spoken to any of the

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airlines. I'm just going to wait for it

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to happen. I'm just looking at this

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notice. It It seemed like there was a

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pretty big drop or a pretty big change

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um that that county's And I'm hoping

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Put my thumb on the scale, shall we say?

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>> Got it. We're showing more.

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>> I heard low bid.

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>> Yep.

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>> We're showing a low bid.

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>> All right.

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>> Operations are up.

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>> So, my plane is going up.

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surprised we're doing as well as we are,

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>> Jet A quite honestly. Our fuel purchase

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fuel purchases year-to-date at this

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point by 69%.

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>> And we are still close to last year's

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total. So, that tells me the airport's

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pretty strong from charter business

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that's coming in.

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>> traffic that's going way up.

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>> Otherwise, we'd be a lot worse off than

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we are now.

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>> But our current air carrier is down 69%

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year-to-date for what they purchased the

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previous week.

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your jet traffic goes up but your your

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jet fuel goes down,

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um yeah, there's an obvious,

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you know, correlation there.

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keep everybody as whole as possible.

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>> Keep all relationships intact because

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it's not unlikely that Contour continues

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to be our carrier.

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>> And will you have a discussion with them

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at some point about bringing their

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numbers more in line with what they used

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to be here no matter what till the end

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of September.

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uh like I said, I've tried to stay kind

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of agnostic about it just until DOT

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would make their decision because it's

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got to be coming any day now. But we can

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make a call to Boutique Air, uh

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and and talk about what's going on and

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that maintaining the relationship for

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the future is kind of important if they

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ever want to try you know um try a another flight.

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our perspective, the flight numbers

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aren't off that much. It's just they're

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not purchasing fuel.

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level the same data also is not at the

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same high trajectory it was going in

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my first spring here, so I don't know

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so just all those things tend together

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to paint a picture.

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Um and it's one that we're aware of and

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it's one that we need to to be

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monitoring and that we need to take

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steps to try and make sure that we're

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still going in the right direction.

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and we also need to make sure to your

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teammates the decision faster because

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they haven't decided by the way, it's

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not just us. They haven't made Earl's.

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about a different topic.

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and they they just haven't made the they

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haven't called you up. I don't know if

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they've reviewed all the proposals or

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what's going on, but they say they have

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they hit their 90 days.

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So, hopefully we'll be having a decision

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pretty soon.

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And Luke warned warned me that they've

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been running so slow that it was

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probably going to go the full 90.

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I'm not necessarily surprised, but it is

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getting to the point where we need to

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know something because people are going

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to start booking flights for October and

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there's nothing there cuz we're in

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limbo.

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we're we're trying to push that as hard

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as we can. Of course, it's on the topic

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of honorable

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kind of stepped out on me.

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Uh one thing I wanted to discuss a

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little bit while I was

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something will be on the county

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commission tomorrow.

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So, if you remember, we we borrowed

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$700,000 from the county to build

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taxiway Foxtrot.

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We're paying that back by per linear

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foot fees

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to people who build there. Right now, I

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have two leases out waiting to be signed

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and brought in.

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Um two leases already signed.

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One of them sitting here whose hangar is

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already done on the new building

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area, and then we have Skydive Moab

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whose lease is signed, and they should

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any day [clears throat] now, I would I

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would expect.

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We're going to have We'll get to this

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Okay, so we'll just stay on one topic at

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a time. So, the first one is we borrowed

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this $700,000.

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Because we did that test strip on

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Foxtrot,

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um

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we got basically 54 54,010 dollars of

290
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free pavement.

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So, we didn't use the 700,000. So, what

292
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I'm going on commission tomorrow for is

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to ask, "Can we

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keep that number because we've already

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calculated it in to the amount of money

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that we're charging back from people

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building on the hangars. So, we take

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that 54,000, still use it for pavement,

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but for use it for the 50 ft of pavement

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in front of hangars that the county owns

301
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that

302
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um need to be rehabbed, and it would be

303
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cheaper to do it during this rehab

304
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project that we've got coming up

305
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on Monday

306
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uh than it would be to wait and do

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mobilization later.

308
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Um so, that's what that's what that's

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about tomorrow. It's not to increase any

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money or ask for any more money, to ask

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for us to be able to use the saved money

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for another asphalt project that is also

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desperately needed.

314
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So everybody's clear on that. Clear as

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mud. Okay.

316
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So we're going to be doing that. Also

317
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coming up really soon

318
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the current project that is going on has

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had

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many failures.

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The concrete panels continue to fail.

322
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They haven't gotten the concrete mix

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right. They get cracks immediately and

324
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then it fails. The FAA won't accept it.

325
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I won't accept it. Um, so they have to

326
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tear it out. So they've been tearing out

327
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a lot of it and that's why that project

328
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is not done. It should be done, but it's

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not. So they're going to continue to try

330
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and pour at night to see if they can get

331
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that mix down right. I think they've got

332
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it dialed in, but we had to pull nine

333
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panels just last week. So um, they're

334
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still having some issues out there. Um,

335
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that project will get done eventually

336
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um, and we'll have some nice concrete

337
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stands um, if we ever have another one

338
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of these 737 events like we had.

339
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Um, and if we get a couple of those in

340
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we would we we had to chalk it out, try and make

341
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it fit. So this is going to be hell on

342
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us.

343
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>> Will that concrete stand be usable as

344
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soon as before we start this next phase?

345
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>> No.

346
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>> How long before that happens?

347
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>> the whole problem. It It's going to have

348
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to cure and I wish I could give you a

349
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date. It is supposed to be done. Well, I

350
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know this.

351
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By Monday we'll have full access to to

352
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um,

353
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taxiway golf cuz we have to cuz we have

354
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to be able to get move around. Those

355
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concrete stands will now be done.

356
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Um, so it's going to be

357
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tight and we can talk about that when we

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get Dorsett and everybody on during the

359
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con- during that

360
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conversation cuz Cuz not the only

361
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project that's going to be going on.

362
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There's the potential of having three

363
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hangars under construction at the same

364
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time.

365
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There's uh the potential of two major

366
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asphalt projects going on on the front

367
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ramp. Well, that's not a potential,

368
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that's for sure.

369
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Right after that, we're get we've got um

370
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seal coat and crack seal

371
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that's going to be going on.

372
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And then right after that or maybe

373
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before that, we've got the entry road

374
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project

375
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that's that's going to start. We rebuild

376
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the whole entry road.

377
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So,

378
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there's a lot going on.

379
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Um

380
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there's there's a lot going on and we're

381
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fortunate because we've received

382
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a lot of good grants um

383
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this last year or two.

384
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Uh

385
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but it doesn't it makes it challenging.

386
00:16:07,040 --> 00:16:08,840
>> Yeah. Yeah, I agree. Long term, it's

387
00:16:08,840 --> 00:16:10,440
going to be really nice to have all that

388
00:16:10,440 --> 00:16:13,040
space. I am worried about this summer

389
00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:14,800
the impact we're going to have if we

390
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can't use that new concrete.

391
00:16:16,680 --> 00:16:18,640
>> able to use it before the I Well, I I

392
00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:20,680
won't talk to the horse in the or Chad

393
00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:22,240
if you need one. We'll get there, guys.

394
00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:23,920
Let's Let's hold off and let those guys

395
00:16:23,920 --> 00:16:24,000
talk.

396
00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,160
>> I just don't want to be turning traffic

397
00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,520
away at some point cuz we don't have

398
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parking.

399
00:16:29,200 --> 00:16:30,960
>> I agree. Well, we'll get we'll get to

400
00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:32,320
that point, but we're skipping ahead

401
00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,520
here. So, are there any other questions

402
00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,680
about about

403
00:16:36,680 --> 00:16:37,920
what's going on with the airport and

404
00:16:37,920 --> 00:16:39,680
what we're trying to do? I tried to give

405
00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:41,320
you as much data as I can give you.

406
00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:43,280
>> Could you walk us through these charts

407
00:16:43,280 --> 00:16:45,120
one by one and give a little more

408
00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:48,560
explanation? It says operations. Just

409
00:16:48,560 --> 00:16:54,310
break that down a little more for us.

410
00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:55,640
» Okay, so if we start with the first one,

411
00:16:55,640 --> 00:16:58,600
operations is any takeoff or landing at

412
00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,560
the airport is an operation. Uh so,

413
00:17:01,560 --> 00:17:03,600
we're just tracking them year to year,

414
00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:05,120
how many we're doing.

415
00:17:05,120 --> 00:17:06,560
Um and you can see where where the

416
00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,480
growth is and where we've dropped off

417
00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:11,319
just a little bit in total operations

418
00:17:11,319 --> 00:17:12,760
um

419
00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:14,280
from last month, but we're still ahead

420
00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,280
of where we were last year.

421
00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:17,959
Just not as significant

422
00:17:17,959 --> 00:17:19,720
>> or this last year.

423
00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,920
>> Both these data sets from virtual tower

424
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from the past. So, are we comparing

425
00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:25,319
apples to apples?

426
00:17:25,319 --> 00:17:25,839
>> Yes.

427
00:17:25,839 --> 00:17:27,400
>> It's all about the data, not just

428
00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:28,680
numbers, people.

429
00:17:28,680 --> 00:17:29,080
>> No.

430
00:17:29,080 --> 00:17:29,560
>> Okay.

431
00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,720
>> So, it's These are actual operated

432
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operations counted.

433
00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:34,400
>> Okay. Thank you.

434
00:17:34,400 --> 00:17:35,600
>> So,

435
00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:37,440
that's the first one. Operations take

436
00:17:37,440 --> 00:17:39,360
off or landing. Then we just have

437
00:17:39,360 --> 00:17:41,160
operation broken down a lot of different

438
00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:44,080
ways. You can see the data people don't

439
00:17:44,080 --> 00:17:48,310
like flying.

440
00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,360
Um it is interesting to me the visiting

441
00:17:50,360 --> 00:17:52,040
versus base.

442
00:17:52,040 --> 00:17:54,200
Uh we are definitely an outside-in

443
00:17:54,200 --> 00:17:55,960
airport.

444
00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:58,920
A lot more people come in than go out.

445
00:17:58,920 --> 00:18:01,200
At any other airport, well, I won't say

446
00:18:01,200 --> 00:18:03,640
any other, but at the other airports

447
00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:05,360
I've ever been at or looked at the data,

448
00:18:05,360 --> 00:18:07,960
it's always the opposite of this.

449
00:18:07,960 --> 00:18:10,080
Your your base aircraft, they're doing a

450
00:18:10,080 --> 00:18:11,480
lot more operating than your visiting

451
00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,200
aircraft, but that's not the case for

452
00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:14,000
us.

453
00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:15,360
So, it tells us a little bit about what

454
00:18:15,360 --> 00:18:16,760
kind of airport we are. We're a

455
00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:19,200
destination airport.

456
00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:22,040
Um take off per runway and just which

457
00:18:22,040 --> 00:18:24,080
direction the wind is blowing

458
00:18:24,080 --> 00:18:25,680
most of the time

459
00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,760
uh and very few over on our uh

460
00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:29,960
crosswind.

461
00:18:29,960 --> 00:18:33,120
That's mostly just the taildraggers.

462
00:18:33,120 --> 00:18:34,960
Don't give me that look.

463
00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:38,080
>> And I think just a point to make between

464
00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:41,400
runway three and number uh runway 21 for

465
00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,280
takeoffs, it's just the way out of the

466
00:18:43,280 --> 00:18:44,600
airport, too.

467
00:18:44,600 --> 00:18:45,000
>> Okay.

468
00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:48,760
>> favors two one for takeoffs. Uh nobody

469
00:18:48,760 --> 00:18:51,360
really wants to taxi for a mile and a

470
00:18:51,360 --> 00:18:52,520
quarter.

471
00:18:52,520 --> 00:18:53,080
Uh

472
00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:53,680
so

473
00:18:53,680 --> 00:18:55,640
>> So, it shows a lot of the runway that

474
00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:56,960
>> If the wind is calm, people

475
00:18:56,960 --> 00:18:58,600
>> calm wind option for takeoffs

476
00:18:58,600 --> 00:18:59,840
>> and two one.

477
00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:00,360
>> Yeah.

478
00:19:00,360 --> 00:19:01,720
>> That's why they're landing runway three,

479
00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:02,000
so

480
00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:03,720
>> Yeah, that's why you'll see a spike

481
00:19:03,720 --> 00:19:05,080
>> Same the opposite for actually.

482
00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:06,200
>> When it's calm winds

483
00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:08,040
>> has to do with the layout of the

484
00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:09,120
airport, really.

485
00:19:09,120 --> 00:19:11,440
>> Calm winds and that 737 that landed, I

486
00:19:11,440 --> 00:19:13,480
sure wish they had landed

487
00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:14,880
the other direction.

488
00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:16,080
But I think we just had to land They

489
00:19:16,080 --> 00:19:19,200
landed too long and then had to taxi. Um

490
00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:20,400
but it would have been so much slicker

491
00:19:20,400 --> 00:19:22,400
if they'd just come in in three and

492
00:19:22,400 --> 00:19:24,200
rolled it out, you know.

493
00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,360
Or either way. So, yeah.

494
00:19:26,360 --> 00:19:28,600
Uh it also lets us know that

495
00:19:28,600 --> 00:19:30,280
winds are calm most of the time if they

496
00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,280
can switch where they're taking off or

497
00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:33,960
they're landing.

498
00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,360
That hasn't been true last month or two,

499
00:19:36,360 --> 00:19:37,240
but

500
00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:38,840
they generally

501
00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:40,760
Then your fuel flow which is the next

502
00:19:40,760 --> 00:19:42,800
one, 100 low lead.

503
00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,520
As compared to last year, you see we're

504
00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,440
making pretty significant jumps in 100

505
00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,480
low lead.

506
00:19:48,480 --> 00:19:50,120
Fuel is moving well.

507
00:19:50,120 --> 00:19:52,560
And then if we switch over to fuel flow

508
00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,120
which is for Jet A,

509
00:19:54,120 --> 00:19:55,520
uh you can see the opposite thing

510
00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,880
happening starting in March.

511
00:19:57,880 --> 00:19:58,880
Um

512
00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:00,640
which

513
00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,360
again, directly coincides with

514
00:20:03,360 --> 00:20:04,840
when the county

515
00:20:04,840 --> 00:20:08,950
made a recommendation.

516
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:10,160
And you're right, it is amazing when

517
00:20:10,160 --> 00:20:12,520
it's up as high as it is considering

518
00:20:12,520 --> 00:20:13,640
Yeah, that's changed.

519
00:20:13,640 --> 00:20:17,000
>> I mean, the difference was 21,900

520
00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,080
gallons last year year-to-date. This

521
00:20:19,080 --> 00:20:21,880
year it's 6,000 gallons. Yeah, so you

522
00:20:21,880 --> 00:20:24,440
can see what the difference is there.

523
00:20:24,440 --> 00:20:26,120
>> And the employment data kind of bears it

524
00:20:26,120 --> 00:20:27,880
out as well. It's down.

525
00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:28,680
Um

526
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,240
instead of going up the way that it was

527
00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:33,630
going up before.

528
00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:35,480
I don't know. Just it just paints a kind

529
00:20:35,480 --> 00:20:37,160
of a picture that we can

530
00:20:37,160 --> 00:20:39,280
look at and debate and discuss

531
00:20:39,280 --> 00:20:40,720
uh what we think it means, what we

532
00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:42,720
think's going on, what we what we might

533
00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:44,560
be able to do about it.

534
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:45,520
Um

535
00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,240
My first thought is that that it's

536
00:20:48,240 --> 00:20:49,280
um

537
00:20:49,280 --> 00:20:53,510
it's contra or

538
00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:54,880
not putting into it what they were

539
00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:57,360
before the county

540
00:20:57,360 --> 00:20:59,520
suggested a different airline.

541
00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,680
Which in some ways you kind of get. And

542
00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,360
they've only got 9 months here or they

543
00:21:03,360 --> 00:21:04,600
think they've only got 9 months here.

544
00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:05,880
That might might be true. They could

545
00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:07,480
still be here.

546
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:08,920
Um

547
00:21:08,920 --> 00:21:10,040
>> Yeah, I don't think it has anything to

548
00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:10,360
do with it.

549
00:21:10,360 --> 00:21:11,000
>> I don't think so.

550
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:11,560
>> I don't know.

551
00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:13,160
>> Okay.

552
00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:15,040
She just was going so slow.

553
00:21:15,040 --> 00:21:16,840
>> I would hear it from the pilots if they

554
00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:18,160
were distracted or something. You know

555
00:21:18,160 --> 00:21:19,280
what I mean?

556
00:21:19,280 --> 00:21:19,920
>> Um

557
00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:20,920
>> Open with me.

558
00:21:20,920 --> 00:21:23,640
>> What are we doing anything about the uh

559
00:21:23,640 --> 00:21:25,120
on time and

560
00:21:25,120 --> 00:21:27,280
uh for the Concord this morning?

561
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:27,920
>> We can track it.

562
00:21:27,920 --> 00:21:31,200
>> I I don't It is We do have that track. I

563
00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:32,840
don't have those numbers in front of me

564
00:21:32,840 --> 00:21:34,440
right now, but I can get them.

565
00:21:34,440 --> 00:21:35,040
>> I just wanted

566
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:37,080
>> the service because you know, I don't

567
00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:38,400
think I don't know if fuel and

568
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:39,200
>> Anecdotally

569
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:41,160
>> related that it's you know, it is the

570
00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:43,480
service still

571
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,520
good?

572
00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,080
>> Last night, we had a long delay till

573
00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,520
about 10:00.

574
00:21:49,520 --> 00:21:51,120
Um 10:30. There have been a few of

575
00:21:51,120 --> 00:21:52,120
those.

576
00:21:52,120 --> 00:21:54,000
Um we had

577
00:21:54,000 --> 00:21:57,440
we've had anecdotal reports of service

578
00:21:57,440 --> 00:21:58,800
dropping off.

579
00:21:58,800 --> 00:21:59,520
Um

580
00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:01,000
more lates.

581
00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:02,520
More delayed departures, more canceled

582
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:03,680
flights.

583
00:22:03,680 --> 00:22:05,480
Um

584
00:22:05,480 --> 00:22:07,360
The hard numbers we will take a look at.

585
00:22:07,360 --> 00:22:09,160
We don't have them right now.

586
00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:11,160
>> Yeah, I I think that it would be good to

587
00:22:11,160 --> 00:22:14,480
monitor that information.

588
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:16,000
Make sure we're still getting good

589
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:18,560
service, you know.

590
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:20,680
I had an 11-hour layover with them the

591
00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:22,680
other day.

592
00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:24,240
Uh and then I had to hear everything

593
00:22:24,240 --> 00:22:26,040
down there and down there.

594
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,320
It was a long day.

595
00:22:28,320 --> 00:22:30,840
Um so, yeah, I I I don't know if that's

596
00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:32,240
typical. I mean, they had there was

597
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:33,720
weather and all kinds of things going

598
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:34,480
on, but

599
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:35,210
>> I don't know.

600
00:22:35,210 --> 00:22:35,320
>> [clears throat]

601
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:36,000
>> But

602
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,680
I think it'd be I think it'd be nice to

603
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:38,840
just talk to them.

604
00:22:38,840 --> 00:22:41,400
>> Rachel's really good to um always shoot

605
00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,400
out texts to a group of us when things

606
00:22:43,400 --> 00:22:45,240
are getting delayed so that we can plan

607
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:46,520
for our flight and what we're going to

608
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,520
plan for. And I can tell you the flights

609
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:51,520
to Denver, I just expect it.

610
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,280
>> I tell people, if you wanted to go

611
00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,080
somewhere on time, you fly to Phoenix

612
00:22:55,080 --> 00:22:57,840
because Denver afternoons are hellish.

613
00:22:57,840 --> 00:23:00,120
>> The Denver flights I've come to just

614
00:23:00,120 --> 00:23:02,720
expect that there's going to be

615
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,520
a delay. And anything I can tell you

616
00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,000
right now that would be would be

617
00:23:06,000 --> 00:23:08,320
anecdotal and a passenger's experience.

618
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,080
>> Well, she had passengers are talking

619
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:13,470
like it's it's happened more

620
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:14,520
» Okay, for the future.

621
00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:15,160
>> Yep.

622
00:23:15,160 --> 00:23:17,830
>> Believe it.

623
00:23:17,840 --> 00:23:20,750
» Any other questions?

624
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:21,880
» Any other problems?

625
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:24,840
>> So, like being putted.

626
00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:26,320
>> The

627
00:23:26,320 --> 00:23:28,440
date coding scheme

628
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:30,000
uh

629
00:23:30,000 --> 00:23:32,240
I'm just wondering how I couldn't get in

630
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:33,480
the other day and so

631
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:34,200
>> Okay.

632
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:36,120
>> I I don't know what the

633
00:23:36,120 --> 00:23:36,760
>> Hey.

634
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,280
>> I don't know if I did something wrong or

635
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:38,800
not.

636
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:39,800
>> You didn't.

637
00:23:39,800 --> 00:23:41,840
>> Here's what happens. The the one gate

638
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:45,080
we're we're working on getting it done.

639
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:46,240
We're trying to figure out a way for

640
00:23:46,240 --> 00:23:47,640
trucks to be able to get in and out of

641
00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:49,040
the airport during the next phase of

642
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:50,520
construction, which we can talk about

643
00:23:50,520 --> 00:23:52,360
during that, but we'll cover it here.

644
00:23:52,360 --> 00:23:54,400
So, we decided can we leave that gate

645
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,480
open and still have a way to confirm

646
00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,760
whether people have valid codes or not.

647
00:23:58,760 --> 00:24:00,200
In so doing, we tried to do a couple of

648
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:01,960
things. One of those things was to turn

649
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:04,480
it off. Open it, turn it off.

650
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,360
Problem is as soon as we turned it off,

651
00:24:06,360 --> 00:24:09,280
turned it back on, we lost every single

652
00:24:09,280 --> 00:24:10,560
code.

653
00:24:10,560 --> 00:24:11,840
So,

654
00:24:11,840 --> 00:24:15,160
Alyssa spent most of the day

655
00:24:15,160 --> 00:24:16,160
um

656
00:24:16,160 --> 00:24:18,280
inputting codes. So, then you look to

657
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:20,720
say, "Well, all of these things have

658
00:24:20,720 --> 00:24:22,400
some sort of battery backup, a little

659
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:24,720
9-volt or something that it stores that

660
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:26,160
information."

661
00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:28,440
Apparently, this gate has does not have

662
00:24:28,440 --> 00:24:29,400
that.

663
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:31,520
Um every other gate on the airfield

664
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:32,880
does. You can turn them off, turn it

665
00:24:32,880 --> 00:24:34,840
back on, the codes are saved.

666
00:24:34,840 --> 00:24:36,640
This particular gate,

667
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:38,120
turn it off,

668
00:24:38,120 --> 00:24:40,840
why? You'll lose it all. So, we figured

669
00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:43,440
another way to keep it open, and you

670
00:24:43,440 --> 00:24:45,000
know, it gets a little into the weeds,

671
00:24:45,000 --> 00:24:47,560
but so there might have been a time when

672
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,000
we didn't get your code in yet. So, it

673
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:51,600
Is it still not working?

674
00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:53,520
>> No, I I I I haven't been back.

675
00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:55,600
>> Okay. But, just call us and let us know

676
00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:57,400
if it's ever not, because she actually

677
00:24:57,400 --> 00:24:58,920
manually

678
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:01,040
She I we looked to see if it's possible

679
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,440
to

680
00:25:02,440 --> 00:25:04,160
>> Is this like a really important game?

681
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,080
>> We'd have to kind of like rewire it to

682
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:07,160
do it. So, what we're going to do is

683
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,680
just not shut it off. But, if there's

684
00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:10,120
ever a power failure

685
00:25:10,120 --> 00:25:11,600
>> Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

686
00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:13,000
>> we're going to be out there manually

687
00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,200
inputting every single one of these

688
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,320
codes.

689
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:17,600
>> That didn't sound right.

690
00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,040
>> Which is what we're doing right now. I I

691
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:22,320
we will look into getting some sort of a

692
00:25:22,320 --> 00:25:24,200
uninterrupted power supply.

693
00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:25,280
Um

694
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:28,280
It's odd. I haven't seen one like that.

695
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:29,360
>> That's just very odd.

696
00:25:29,360 --> 00:25:31,240
>> It just has no

697
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,440
backup, but it didn't

698
00:25:33,440 --> 00:25:35,000
>> Okay.

699
00:25:35,000 --> 00:25:36,520
>> So sorry. Uh

700
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:37,840
you're not the only one that experienced

701
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,200
that, but

702
00:25:39,200 --> 00:25:40,840
props to Alyssa. She went through and

703
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:45,000
inputed every single code um that day.

704
00:25:45,000 --> 00:25:46,360
Okay, I'm done.

705
00:25:46,360 --> 00:25:47,200
What?

706
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:48,120
>> I'll go after you.

707
00:25:48,120 --> 00:25:50,200
>> Okay. One more thing I wanted to bring

708
00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:51,960
up really quickly is we just completed

709
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:55,600
our part 139 certification inspection.

710
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:58,480
And for only the second time in my more

711
00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,880
than 30 years of doing this,

712
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:03,840
I saw a no findings.

713
00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:08,320
So, our 139 inspection went flawlessly.

714
00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:11,400
Um so, that's props to our whole ops

715
00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,760
staff. They worked their tails off.

716
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:17,320
Uh that's uh Mark Markham. That's JP.

717
00:26:17,320 --> 00:26:19,040
That's Alyssa.

718
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,480
Just out there really busting it to make

719
00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:22,880
sure that stuff

720
00:26:22,880 --> 00:26:25,360
is good. Like I said, that it's

721
00:26:25,360 --> 00:26:27,360
highly unusual

722
00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:29,840
to get zero findings

723
00:26:29,840 --> 00:26:32,640
on your 139 inspection. So, props to

724
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:33,600
Mark.

725
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,200
>> Can we see all their control? Can we get

726
00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:36,480
a list of everything they run through? I

727
00:26:36,480 --> 00:26:37,880
guess I could probably Google it.

728
00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,720
>> Yes. 139 checklist.

729
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:40,960
>> Yeah, they

730
00:26:40,960 --> 00:26:42,040
there's a million things they check.

731
00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,320
Your paint your

732
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:44,640
You know, they could have had findings

733
00:26:44,640 --> 00:26:46,080
on our paint on our runway, but they

734
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:47,920
know that we're going to seal coat,

735
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,160
crack seal, and repaint that. So, why

736
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,040
give us a finding when it's already for

737
00:26:52,040 --> 00:26:54,160
a repair. Standard.

738
00:26:54,160 --> 00:26:55,800
Um rubber removal. I mean, you could

739
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,280
have gotten a finding for that, but it's

740
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,200
already scheduled in to be fixed, so

741
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:00,680
it's not a finding.

742
00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:02,320
Um he thought he had a finding. He

743
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,560
thought we had some of our lights

744
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,440
incandescent and some of our lights

745
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,320
um LED. So, we went out and popped the

746
00:27:10,320 --> 00:27:12,680
tops out to show him they're all LED.

747
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:13,840
So,

748
00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:14,880
um

749
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:15,960
yeah.

750
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:17,240
>> Wasn't it the same thing on the rubber

751
00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:18,480
removal or the rest

752
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:18,720
>> Yeah.

753
00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:19,880
>> you little back and forth

754
00:27:19,880 --> 00:27:20,640
>> Yeah, we got this.

755
00:27:20,640 --> 00:27:22,200
>> Those kind of things he already knows

756
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,600
are scheduled in, so it doesn't make

757
00:27:24,600 --> 00:27:26,560
sense to give it a finding.

758
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:27,760
But, they look for things like anywhere

759
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:30,520
there's a 3-in lip.

760
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,360
They look If they really get technical

761
00:27:32,360 --> 00:27:34,080
on it, they can go to your lights and

762
00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:36,640
make sure all of your bolts are torqued

763
00:27:36,640 --> 00:27:38,280
to the proper torqueage.

764
00:27:38,280 --> 00:27:39,040
>> Right.

765
00:27:39,040 --> 00:27:41,600
>> Um they check your training records.

766
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,080
Have you done your training every 12

767
00:27:43,080 --> 00:27:45,160
consecutive calendar months? They do a

768
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:46,920
test to see if you can get in your ARFF

769
00:27:46,920 --> 00:27:48,400
truck and get to the farthest point on

770
00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:50,680
the airport within 3 minutes.

771
00:27:50,680 --> 00:27:53,880
Um there's there's a lot of things. It's

772
00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:55,880
usually a 3-day process at an airport

773
00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:57,000
like this.

774
00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,280
Uh it was done in two. He's There was

775
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:03,840
just love nothing there to dig in on.

776
00:28:03,840 --> 00:28:05,800
So, yeah.

777
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:08,440
To C-Mart, Elizabeth JP, give him a pat

778
00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,360
on the back.

779
00:28:10,360 --> 00:28:11,600
Okay, that's all I've got. You were

780
00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:12,440
going to say something, Casey?

781
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,720
>> Yeah, I just wanted to clarify um

782
00:28:14,720 --> 00:28:15,760
just let everybody know like the

783
00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:18,320
chemicals you They're Those are gross

784
00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:21,280
sales, not um rent paid to the airport.

785
00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:22,960
So, all that. So, I just wanted to make

786
00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:23,200
sure

787
00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:23,840
>> Oh, thank you.

788
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,200
>> Yeah, and and I I would imagine that um

789
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:28,560
Enterprise is the same thing. That's

790
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,840
their the rent paid to the airport, not

791
00:28:30,840 --> 00:28:32,000
their gross sales.

792
00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,720
>> It's the information. Yeah, that's It's

793
00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:35,440
the information that is submitted to us.

794
00:28:35,440 --> 00:28:36,400
>> Yeah, okay.

795
00:28:36,400 --> 00:28:37,440
>> We'll clarify.

796
00:28:37,440 --> 00:28:39,000
>> I sent it to Kenny Beth.

797
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:40,760
>> Yeah, we can clarify on future ones

798
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:45,550
exactly what that

799
00:28:45,560 --> 00:28:49,470
Yeah. Anything else?

800
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:52,240
I think All right, number three is

801
00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:54,000
airport members who was this is a catch

802
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:55,560
all for the people that aren't listed

803
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,760
below. If any of the board members have

804
00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:00,280
any comment this would be the time that

805
00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:01,280
aren't

806
00:29:01,280 --> 00:29:03,760
uh listed below.

807
00:29:03,760 --> 00:29:05,560
Anything?

808
00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:08,400
All right, County Commissioner. Well,

809
00:29:08,400 --> 00:29:10,760
I don't have much of anything.

810
00:29:10,760 --> 00:29:13,240
I do know that I've talked to Steve.

811
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:15,800
We're working on the

812
00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,520
CIB planning grant for the utility

813
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:20,880
infrastructure but I'm not real sure

814
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,240
where that is but Well, we do have an

815
00:29:23,240 --> 00:29:26,680
update along Just got the email from

816
00:29:26,680 --> 00:29:28,600
John and he can cover it a little in

817
00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:29,880
more detail cuz I haven't had a chance

818
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:35,800
to really go through it yet but I've got the what we requested the scope

819
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:37,200
of work

820
00:29:37,200 --> 00:29:39,360
from John.

821
00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:39,680
>> Yeah.

822
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:40,280
so

823
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,320
>> I'm just trying to keep that moving

824
00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:45,280
along because we've got to so yeah, see

825
00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,000
what I talked about that this week.

826
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:48,920
That's really all from the county side

827
00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:52,880
of it and once we get the application in

828
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:55,240
to CIB then it can

829
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:56,880
go before the board and it won't make

830
00:29:56,880 --> 00:30:01,000
the June cut off so

831
00:30:01,000 --> 00:30:02,880
it'll be the next one the next meeting.

832
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:05,880
>> be July.

833
00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,800
>> Yeah, I'd have to look at it

834
00:30:08,800 --> 00:30:10,200
if it can be

835
00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:15,510
put in in July. It might be August so

836
00:30:15,520 --> 00:30:16,840
» But we do have a scope of work to give

837
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,240
them now as part of that.

838
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,640
>> So that's really all I've got with the

839
00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:21,360
county is just trying to keep some of

840
00:30:21,360 --> 00:30:24,195
that stuff moving along out there.

841
00:30:24,195 --> 00:30:25,520
>> [clears throat]

842
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:26,840
>> City?

843
00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,560
>> Uh not about the city. We're working on

844
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:31,720
still working on speed limits in town,

845
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:32,280
um

846
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,920
budgets and

847
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:36,560
we have started the holiday planning

848
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:38,240
process for

849
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:40,560
December. So we have to see what we're

850
00:30:40,560 --> 00:30:43,360
doing for events but other than that, um

851
00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:45,160
we have some stuff coming up.

852
00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,480
It's going to take a bunch of time, but

853
00:30:46,480 --> 00:30:48,480
we haven't quite got to it yet.

854
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:49,960
>> Are you working on those speed limits up

855
00:30:49,960 --> 00:30:51,480
or down?

856
00:30:51,480 --> 00:30:53,016
>> Yes.

857
00:30:53,016 --> 00:30:54,160
>> [laughter]

858
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:55,880
>> Some are going up, some are going down.

859
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:57,680
So, it's it's kind of

860
00:30:57,680 --> 00:30:59,040
um

861
00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:00,600
you know, we kind of looked at it as

862
00:31:00,600 --> 00:31:02,920
we're doing um kind of street by street,

863
00:31:02,920 --> 00:31:04,680
you know, which ones are major arteries

864
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:05,920
and which ones are

865
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,520
you know, you know, can be reduced

866
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:11,800
without impacting traffic flow. But, I think um for the

867
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,040
most part, you know, the kind of key

868
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,320
thing is we're getting rid of

869
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:16,920
um

870
00:31:16,920 --> 00:31:19,920
the OHV 15 mph and um

871
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:21,960
and probably bumping that up and then

872
00:31:21,960 --> 00:31:24,560
bumping in some streets that

873
00:31:24,560 --> 00:31:25,520
um

874
00:31:25,520 --> 00:31:27,120
most streets will be 20 except for main

875
00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:30,440
arteries will be 25, you know, so like

876
00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:32,000
um I don't know, I think I don't know.

877
00:31:32,000 --> 00:31:33,360
We're not really

878
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:34,760
as we're not finished yet, but

879
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,640
>> They have this another topic for this

880
00:31:36,640 --> 00:31:38,080
meeting, but I think you'd I would do it

881
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:39,320
seasonally.

882
00:31:39,320 --> 00:31:39,680
>> Yeah.

883
00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:40,920
>> Move them up when they're when the

884
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:42,320
crowds are gone.

885
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,120
>> Yeah, but it's um anyway, that's the way

886
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,480
>> Absolutely.

887
00:31:45,480 --> 00:31:46,480
>> I could take them up a little bit of

888
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,630
time, surprise.

889
00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:51,920
» Okay.

890
00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:53,600
Travel counselor is on with us?

891
00:31:53,600 --> 00:31:55,480
>> Yes, he is.

892
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:56,840
>> All right, go ahead.

893
00:31:56,840 --> 00:31:58,480
>> Snuck in.

894
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:02,000
Um not much to report. We um set aside

895
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,280
and if commission approves some spending

896
00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:06,800
for the um summer months,

897
00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:08,920
um July and August specifically, which

898
00:32:08,920 --> 00:32:10,520
are showing a pretty significant

899
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,600
downturn in bookings thus far. And

900
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:15,840
obviously, we're eager to hear the um

901
00:32:15,840 --> 00:32:18,000
decision on the essential airlines so we

902
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:21,400
can work to get some marketing in place

903
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:22,960
before the launch.

904
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,680
That's about it.

905
00:32:25,680 --> 00:32:28,800
>> So, along with that, uh the money that

906
00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:31,200
was allocated for Contour this year for

907
00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:33,280
advertising, has that all been spent?

908
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,280
>> I cannot answer that question, but the

909
00:32:35,280 --> 00:32:37,680
office could verify that. I'm not sure

910
00:32:37,680 --> 00:32:39,127
if they spent it or not.

911
00:32:39,127 --> 00:32:41,150
>> [snorts]

912
00:32:41,160 --> 00:32:43,600
» I believe that I'm I'm not sure of it.

913
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,640
Who would I Who would we ask?

914
00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:48,240
>> Our CFO Allen can probably find out.

915
00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,000
>> Well, actually we probably should have

916
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:52,440
your admin check with our admin Harris

917
00:32:52,440 --> 00:32:54,280
County and see what

918
00:32:54,280 --> 00:32:56,760
or that went or because then it'll go

919
00:32:56,760 --> 00:32:58,400
through the proper channel over to the

920
00:32:58,400 --> 00:32:59,560
travel.

921
00:32:59,560 --> 00:33:00,280
>> Yep, we'll do that.

922
00:33:00,280 --> 00:33:02,720
>> So, we'll we'll do that then. Admin to

923
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,040
admin we'll find out.

924
00:33:04,040 --> 00:33:04,360
>> Yeah.

925
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:05,600
>> If that's

926
00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:07,520
Cuz now is the time we want to I think

927
00:33:07,520 --> 00:33:09,160
focus on getting that money have it out

928
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:11,040
there totally.

929
00:33:11,040 --> 00:33:11,800
>> Great.

930
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:12,840
If there's any left.

931
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:13,720
>> Yeah.

932
00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:17,870
>> Okay.

933
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:18,920
» All right,

934
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:23,990
construction.

935
00:33:24,000 --> 00:33:24,840
Judge you up there or Thorson?

936
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:26,080
>> Judge you up there or Thorson?

937
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:28,480
>> I'm up here and Thorson's actually out

938
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:29,680
at the airport.

939
00:33:29,680 --> 00:33:30,880
>> He's on the inspection.

940
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:32,920
>> Yep, can you guys hear me okay?

941
00:33:32,920 --> 00:33:33,480
>> Yes, Thorson.

942
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:34,640
>> Yes, yes.

943
00:33:34,640 --> 00:33:36,200
>> Okay, great.

944
00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,960
Uh, cuz I'll start off here where I'm

945
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:41,040
over here by this apron. We're wrapping

946
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,160
up on the asphalt. They should have

947
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,080
asphalt all completed by the end of the

948
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,000
day tomorrow.

949
00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:47,680
Um,

950
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,640
looking really good. Asphalt is been

951
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,880
coming in great. Had Had no issues with

952
00:33:52,880 --> 00:33:54,640
the asphalt over the past I guess we

953
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:56,200
started last week.

954
00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:57,400
Um,

955
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,120
tonight is the we're getting wrapped up

956
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:01,840
with the concrete. They're going to be

957
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,840
pouring tonight, tomorrow night, and

958
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:07,040
possibly Wednesday night if needed.

959
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,080
Um, honestly I'm looking at it right now

960
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:11,000
and I can kind of see them getting this

961
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,080
done within a couple nights for the rest

962
00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,000
of the concrete. Uh,

963
00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:16,760
like Steve had said there was a little

964
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:18,440
slogan started trying to get the mix

965
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,399
down, but we have been seeing very very

966
00:34:21,399 --> 00:34:23,360
favorable results in those last few

967
00:34:23,360 --> 00:34:24,520
pours.

968
00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:25,919
Uh, they were going to be finished up

969
00:34:25,919 --> 00:34:29,240
last week, but due to weather, wind, and

970
00:34:29,240 --> 00:34:32,360
issue other kind of meteorological

971
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,080
issues they decided to push the pour

972
00:34:34,080 --> 00:34:36,320
back. Uh, Forecast tonight looks great.

973
00:34:36,320 --> 00:34:37,399
Looks like we're going to have a really

974
00:34:37,399 --> 00:34:39,040
good night for concrete. They're going

975
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:41,080
to be busting out as much as they can

976
00:34:41,080 --> 00:34:43,240
and then we will

977
00:34:43,240 --> 00:34:45,480
get with that. I did have a chance to

978
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:49,280
look at the specification and it calls

979
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:51,320
for port

980
00:34:51,320 --> 00:34:54,080
to open the concrete. It calls for 14

981
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:57,640
days after paving unless there's the

982
00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,880
passing flexural strength. We do do a

983
00:34:59,880 --> 00:35:03,040
28-day break so it will have to be that

984
00:35:03,040 --> 00:35:05,240
14 days which means concrete should be

985
00:35:05,240 --> 00:35:07,960
open mid-June.

986
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:11,270
Which is exciting.

987
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:12,320
» Good.

988
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,640
Are your breaks then coming in good?

989
00:35:16,640 --> 00:35:19,760
>> Yes. Yes, the first few lots the breaks

990
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:23,640
have been coming in well within spec

991
00:35:23,640 --> 00:35:27,080
over spec which is always good to see.

992
00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:29,400
No, everything on the test results we've

993
00:35:29,400 --> 00:35:33,840
seen thus far have been very favorable.

994
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,040
>> And

995
00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:38,800
just to add in some context on the

996
00:35:38,800 --> 00:35:41,920
pavement. As Steve said, we've been

997
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:44,160
rejecting a lot

998
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:45,920
due to

999
00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:47,400
poor mix.

1000
00:35:47,400 --> 00:35:49,080
Um

1001
00:35:49,080 --> 00:35:51,240
there is a mix that they have to meet to

1002
00:35:51,240 --> 00:35:53,200
a specific standard

1003
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:55,600
and that standard then should provide a

1004
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:57,640
good final product. Obviously, if

1005
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,080
something goes wrong or they don't have

1006
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,680
it tweak correctly, you get cracks and

1007
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:04,240
it's up to us to be the bad guys and

1008
00:36:04,240 --> 00:36:06,040
say, "Great.

1009
00:36:06,040 --> 00:36:07,920
That looks really pretty. Now tear out

1010
00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,440
that $200,000 worth of concrete." Um

1011
00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:13,760
and we've done that multiple times. Now,

1012
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:16,360
recognize that that is on the the

1013
00:36:16,360 --> 00:36:18,640
bearing of that cost falls on the

1014
00:36:18,640 --> 00:36:21,200
contractor. It doesn't mean even though

1015
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:22,560
they're pouring

1016
00:36:22,560 --> 00:36:26,160
40% 50% more than what they had bid,

1017
00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,160
um, on them.

1018
00:36:28,160 --> 00:36:31,120
And so, there has been a lot of, uh,

1019
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:33,720
having to pour concrete, bring out whole

1020
00:36:33,720 --> 00:36:37,000
crews for nights, and then a couple days

1021
00:36:37,000 --> 00:36:39,960
later rip it all out. Um, so, recognize

1022
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,000
that is occurring, but also keep in mind

1023
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:44,560
that uh,

1024
00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:45,960
that's us to be the bad guy and tell

1025
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:49,120
them to rip it out, and you it that is

1026
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:51,880
coming at a no cost for you.

1027
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,160
So.

1028
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,840
>> Is Lochner actually the QC on this job, or do you have a

1029
00:36:57,840 --> 00:36:59,800
third-party contractor?

1030
00:36:59,800 --> 00:37:03,560
>> Uh, for this we are have a an

1031
00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:05,840
independent. It's a third-party. It's

1032
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,440
one that's done a lot of the work out

1033
00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,360
there with us in the past for the last

1034
00:37:09,360 --> 00:37:11,880
decade or more.

1035
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:13,720
And then, so, there's well, and they're

1036
00:37:13,720 --> 00:37:16,280
actually the QA. So, quality control is

1037
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:17,920
done by the contractor. There's actually

1038
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,720
two testing firms out there when they're

1039
00:37:20,720 --> 00:37:22,560
doing the work. The quality control is

1040
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:25,440
on the contractor. It's basically them

1041
00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,520
internally telling themselves, this is

1042
00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:29,440
good, this is bad.

1043
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:33,400
And, but [clears throat] our QA is the

1044
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:37,360
final say in it of saying, is this good,

1045
00:37:37,360 --> 00:37:40,920
is this bad? Um, 99% of the time all of

1046
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:43,000
the tests agree with one another, even

1047
00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:45,240
if it's one of those 1% where it does

1048
00:37:45,240 --> 00:37:46,360
not,

1049
00:37:46,360 --> 00:37:49,320
ours is the final say.

1050
00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:50,880
We definitely work well with the

1051
00:37:50,880 --> 00:37:52,400
contractor,

1052
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:53,840
um, because these are testing firms.

1053
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:55,040
There's only

1054
00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:55,960
uh,

1055
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,840
a handful, a couple three firms that are

1056
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,480
qualified to do this type of testing in

1057
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:02,640
this portion of the country and area of

1058
00:38:02,640 --> 00:38:04,840
the state, and, uh, so, they've all been

1059
00:38:04,840 --> 00:38:06,640
working together

1060
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,200
for years.

1061
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,280
So, it but technically speaking, it's

1062
00:38:11,280 --> 00:38:15,800
the quality assurance that works with us

1063
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:19,200
and does the testing that we will then

1064
00:38:19,200 --> 00:38:21,600
say pass or fail. Other things we can

1065
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:23,400
just we've outright failed just on

1066
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:25,000
visual inspection. You've got a big

1067
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:27,000
crack across a brand new

1068
00:38:27,000 --> 00:38:28,800
panel. We don't have to wait for a

1069
00:38:28,800 --> 00:38:31,040
testing. Hey, go rip it out. And after

1070
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,080
the first couple of times of that, they

1071
00:38:33,080 --> 00:38:35,080
started doing it before we even had to

1072
00:38:35,080 --> 00:38:37,520
go be the bad guy and tell them to rip

1073
00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:39,160
it out. They were

1074
00:38:39,160 --> 00:38:42,240
seeing their poor work.

1075
00:38:42,240 --> 00:38:44,800
And that's the subcontractor of LeGrand

1076
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,320
Johnson. So, LeGrand Johnson's the

1077
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,360
overall, but it is they've hired another

1078
00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,640
company that is actually doing the

1079
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:55,040
paving the concrete portion.

1080
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:57,280
The asphalt is themselves and

1081
00:38:57,280 --> 00:38:59,440
they're obviously experts at that and do

1082
00:38:59,440 --> 00:39:00,880
it all over the

1083
00:39:00,880 --> 00:39:03,760
county and the state.

1084
00:39:03,760 --> 00:39:06,390
>> Thank you.

1085
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,120
Uh last piece I want to mention on this

1086
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:09,880
apron over here,

1087
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:10,440
uh

1088
00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,800
this is expansion concrete. We I have

1089
00:39:12,800 --> 00:39:15,960
confirmed that Gulf is complete. Uh it

1090
00:39:15,960 --> 00:39:17,640
does need that center line marking, but

1091
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,600
that will be open

1092
00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:22,400
by the time we start this next project.

1093
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:24,920
Um segway into this project. I put this

1094
00:39:24,920 --> 00:39:27,240
document together here as you're seeing

1095
00:39:27,240 --> 00:39:30,240
up on the screen. This is showing

1096
00:39:30,240 --> 00:39:31,840
uh the apron we're working on. Those

1097
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,320
it's uh right there by the fuel and the

1098
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:36,440
Redtail Hangers. Uh

1099
00:39:36,440 --> 00:39:39,920
we it is a phased project, so uh

1100
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,960
basically I guess quick quick rundown. I

1101
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,360
have some dates on there. I won't get

1102
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,760
too much in the minutia, but so the plan

1103
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,840
here is milling the entire project area.

1104
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:49,600
Uh

1105
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,680
starting next week. So, they'll mill

1106
00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,920
both P1 and P2.

1107
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:55,720
And then

1108
00:39:55,720 --> 00:39:57,800
to the it's full depth uh that 50 ft in

1109
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,000
front of hangers getting a 2-in mill.

1110
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,880
The rest of it's getting a full depth

1111
00:40:01,880 --> 00:40:03,840
mill of asphalt.

1112
00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,560
From then, we will be starting on phase

1113
00:40:07,560 --> 00:40:10,600
one area. So, they will excavate and

1114
00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,200
they're going down pretty good amount of

1115
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:14,920
3 or 4 ft.

1116
00:40:14,920 --> 00:40:17,040
I have to check the spec, but uh so

1117
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:18,720
they'll be starting that work. They're

1118
00:40:18,720 --> 00:40:21,800
going to do the dirt work up to P1.

1119
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,560
Then, they'll move over to P2,

1120
00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:27,760
excavate that all down, bring it up, and

1121
00:40:27,760 --> 00:40:30,880
then once all the dirt work is complete,

1122
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:33,960
they'll do the same and they'll pave the

1123
00:40:33,960 --> 00:40:39,000
entire area, P1 and P2, in one go. So,

1124
00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:41,320
with that that was kind of a

1125
00:40:41,320 --> 00:40:43,400
originally it was planned to do

1126
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:46,280
basically the same thing twice, but

1127
00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,440
given that we're working with this

1128
00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,120
contractor and allowing them to do the

1129
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:51,560
one mobilization for mill and one

1130
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:54,560
mobilization for the

1131
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:55,160
um

1132
00:40:55,160 --> 00:40:57,600
paving, we did get a reduction in price

1133
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:00,040
on the locally funded schedule.

1134
00:41:00,040 --> 00:41:03,000
Uh but um that

1135
00:41:03,000 --> 00:41:05,120
Uh that's a side conversation, but as

1136
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,120
far as phasing on this one,

1137
00:41:07,120 --> 00:41:08,920
uh hopefully this document helps make

1138
00:41:08,920 --> 00:41:10,160
sense.

1139
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:12,240
Uh there will be times

1140
00:41:12,240 --> 00:41:14,440
with and uh we had a meeting with

1141
00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:16,560
Redtail the other day and kind of got

1142
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:17,960
that all

1143
00:41:17,960 --> 00:41:19,880
squared away what's going on, when it's

1144
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,520
going on. That's kind of what's in here.

1145
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:24,120
Um it will be available during the

1146
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,840
project of um

1147
00:41:25,840 --> 00:41:27,240
coming out here.

1148
00:41:27,240 --> 00:41:29,240
>> I would like to comment on this, though.

1149
00:41:29,240 --> 00:41:31,160
So, originally we were supposed to be

1150
00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:33,400
able to be operational in one of those

1151
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,120
spaces for the other ones. So, this

1152
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,480
takes us non-operational in both of

1153
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:39,640
those

1154
00:41:39,640 --> 00:41:42,520
for the whole project, which from our

1155
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,040
perspective

1156
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,920
uh the biggest impact is self-serve in

1157
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:47,840
there.

1158
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:49,960
Uh we were always going to have when P1

1159
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:51,880
was going on, self-serve would still be

1160
00:41:51,880 --> 00:41:54,160
open. Now, it's going to be closed

1161
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,280
because of this milling. And uh it

1162
00:41:57,280 --> 00:42:00,320
represents uh significant business uh

1163
00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,960
for us not to have that. We were also

1164
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:05,240
supposed to be able to

1165
00:42:05,240 --> 00:42:07,480
not a huge impact here get airplanes in

1166
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,520
and out of hangars, which we can still

1167
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:13,080
do. Uh we just can't have airplanes

1168
00:42:13,080 --> 00:42:16,240
across this space because of that

1169
00:42:16,240 --> 00:42:18,080
Yeah, we're going to have to tow things

1170
00:42:18,080 --> 00:42:18,600
back and forth.

1171
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:19,680
>> Well, they are going to put and don't

1172
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:24,000
forget they are going to put the the ramping in so it's not just a 2-in

1173
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:26,320
drop-off it. The reason you wouldn't

1174
00:42:26,320 --> 00:42:28,880
power across it is more because of

1175
00:42:28,880 --> 00:42:31,320
picking up

1176
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:32,000
>> things like that.

1177
00:42:32,000 --> 00:42:33,680
>> Yeah, we don't still flow.

1178
00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,000
>> And I'm guessing this is an active

1179
00:42:36,000 --> 00:42:38,320
construction zone during this time, too.

1180
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:41,400
So, we can't have transient or base

1181
00:42:41,400 --> 00:42:44,480
aircraft on their own going through this

1182
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:45,480
space, right?

1183
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:47,480
>> No, it's only it's only meant to allow

1184
00:42:47,480 --> 00:42:50,000
you to be able to move your hand in and

1185
00:42:50,000 --> 00:42:51,880
out of maintenance site.

1186
00:42:51,880 --> 00:42:52,240
>> Yeah.

1187
00:42:52,240 --> 00:42:53,880
>> And that keeps everything going.

1188
00:42:53,880 --> 00:42:55,680
>> Which we appreciate. We'll still have

1189
00:42:55,680 --> 00:42:58,080
access to the second hangar in this

1190
00:42:58,080 --> 00:43:00,840
space uh, to use. I think the biggest

1191
00:43:00,840 --> 00:43:03,680
impact is really loss of self-serve fuel

1192
00:43:03,680 --> 00:43:05,680
purchases and I don't know what that's

1193
00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:07,160
>> We're still going to have trucks.

1194
00:43:07,160 --> 00:43:08,800
>> We will have trucks, but there's a

1195
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:11,640
significant price difference, obviously,

1196
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,840
between the two and I'm just worried.

1197
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,040
Uh, last year over this same time

1198
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:19,040
period, uh, self-serve generated about

1199
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:21,760
$30,000, $28,000

1200
00:43:21,760 --> 00:43:24,000
to be accurate. We're probably going to

1201
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,040
lose that. We'll recover some of it, to

1202
00:43:26,040 --> 00:43:29,040
your point. Uh, but I just I'm a little

1203
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:32,680
worried about having that NOTAM'd

1204
00:43:32,680 --> 00:43:35,640
as out during this whole project.

1205
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:37,200
Originally, it was

1206
00:43:37,200 --> 00:43:40,040
only supposed to be NOTAM'd out for half

1207
00:43:40,040 --> 00:43:42,200
of the project. Now, it's the whole

1208
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,480
term, so uh,

1209
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:46,480
it will have an impact on the airport

1210
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:48,800
flowage, fuel flowage, and other things.

1211
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,360
>> Can that NOTAM be worded that

1212
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:54,160
you do have fuel service via truck?

1213
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:55,840
>> Yeah, it will Yeah, we'll make sure

1214
00:43:55,840 --> 00:43:57,800
we're careful with that. A lot of times,

1215
00:43:57,800 --> 00:43:59,840
we've seen this in the past. We've had a

1216
00:43:59,840 --> 00:44:01,640
couple instances in the last year where

1217
00:44:01,640 --> 00:44:04,480
our self-service gone down for a day. We

1218
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:06,520
put a NOTAM out. A lot of pilots

1219
00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:09,080
interpreted it is there's no fuel.

1220
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:09,800
>> Right, that's what I

1221
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:11,560
>> And so we're going to have to be really

1222
00:44:11,560 --> 00:44:13,120
careful with the wording.

1223
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:13,880
>> Okay. Make sure

1224
00:44:13,880 --> 00:44:14,680
>> We'll sell for you.

1225
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:15,960
>> We'll work with you on this.

1226
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:18,200
>> And I think even the note of we need to

1227
00:44:18,200 --> 00:44:21,320
even state fuel fuel still fuel is still

1228
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:22,160
available.

1229
00:44:22,160 --> 00:44:23,240
>> Right.

1230
00:44:23,240 --> 00:44:26,400
>> So we can mitigate this a bit, but this

1231
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:27,560
is

1232
00:44:27,560 --> 00:44:29,800
a little bit of a, you know, change of

1233
00:44:29,800 --> 00:44:31,640
plans. It is going to have a negative

1234
00:44:31,640 --> 00:44:32,280
impact.

1235
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:33,560
>> Which is why we had that meeting with

1236
00:44:33,560 --> 00:44:35,800
you a few days ago so that to see if we

1237
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:36,800
could make it work.

1238
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:37,160
>> Yeah.

1239
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:38,480
>> Because at the end of the day we get

1240
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,520
better product, a cheaper product, and a

1241
00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:42,280
faster build.

1242
00:44:42,280 --> 00:44:42,840
>> Yep.

1243
00:44:42,840 --> 00:44:44,280
>> Can I Can I ask a

1244
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:44,560
>> Sure.

1245
00:44:44,560 --> 00:44:48,040
>> Like where you were planning to do like

1246
00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:49,680
unloading and offloading of passengers

1247
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:50,440
and both

1248
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:51,120
>> Yeah, this is

1249
00:44:51,120 --> 00:44:53,600
>> And is that in a like happening the

1250
00:44:53,600 --> 00:44:54,960
contour area, you

1251
00:44:54,960 --> 00:44:57,280
>> No, we worked We worked out a way to do

1252
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:58,880
that. They have another hangar on the

1253
00:44:58,880 --> 00:45:01,280
field, you might remember from previous

1254
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:02,520
meetings.

1255
00:45:02,520 --> 00:45:05,520
We're going to have an access point that

1256
00:45:05,520 --> 00:45:07,160
uh runs

1257
00:45:07,160 --> 00:45:08,560
I don't know what you call this. I don't

1258
00:45:08,560 --> 00:45:09,680
know what this point is. Behind the

1259
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:11,560
fuel.

1260
00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:13,640
And then you can come in down to their

1261
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:15,000
other hangar.

1262
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:17,760
There's a bit of a roadway there. So

1263
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,240
they'll be loading uh most likely on

1264
00:45:20,240 --> 00:45:20,760
Echo.

1265
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:21,080
>> Right.

1266
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:24,040
>> Yeah, so Jason, just across from where

1267
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,720
uh Skydive is, that taxiway, we're

1268
00:45:26,720 --> 00:45:28,280
probably going to stage out of there.

1269
00:45:28,280 --> 00:45:30,726
We'll just have your bus be delivered

1270
00:45:30,726 --> 00:45:32,040
[clears throat] people. We have a hangar

1271
00:45:32,040 --> 00:45:32,440
there.

1272
00:45:32,440 --> 00:45:34,160
>> Right. Yeah, cuz I'm just thinking like

1273
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,720
well if you

1274
00:45:35,720 --> 00:45:37,440
For you guys, you know, like you guys

1275
00:45:37,440 --> 00:45:38,840
are running

1276
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,120
a lot of old people and yeah, you know,

1277
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:42,120
and then

1278
00:45:42,120 --> 00:45:44,240
like continuously planes coming in and

1279
00:45:44,240 --> 00:45:45,720
loading people and you know, and how you

1280
00:45:45,720 --> 00:45:47,720
can do that. That actually efficiently,

1281
00:45:47,720 --> 00:45:48,040
yeah.

1282
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:50,000
>> The other thing that's kind of along the

1283
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,160
same lines is transient GA pilots too

1284
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,120
are going to have to now navigate a new

1285
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,080
path off the ramp. There's going to be a

1286
00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:01,520
lot more probably escorting uh that

1287
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,160
we're going to have to do than normal uh

1288
00:46:04,160 --> 00:46:06,320
make this work as well.

1289
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:07,280
Um

1290
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,920
but yeah, we it's not going to be ideal

1291
00:46:09,920 --> 00:46:12,000
obviously in game. This is going to be

1292
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,440
really nice when it's all done.

1293
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,280
But we are going to have some

1294
00:46:17,280 --> 00:46:20,160
additional you guys are going to have to

1295
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:22,040
you know, go down a little further and

1296
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:22,640
drop your bombs.

1297
00:46:22,640 --> 00:46:25,520
>> to be able to use the other taxiway, the

1298
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,440
new taxiway?

1299
00:46:28,440 --> 00:46:30,080
>> Yeah, now I haven't talked

1300
00:46:30,080 --> 00:46:31,120
>> He's in fact

1301
00:46:31,120 --> 00:46:32,840
>> but you told me he's agreed to this

1302
00:46:32,840 --> 00:46:35,120
because if he still operates on the east

1303
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:36,960
side where he is today

1304
00:46:36,960 --> 00:46:38,440
>> No, we talked to him we talked to him he

1305
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:41,000
wants to operate on both sides. Yeah, so

1306
00:46:41,000 --> 00:46:42,600
people will be going down there.

1307
00:46:42,600 --> 00:46:45,280
>> Yeah, so then we have a horseshoe path

1308
00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:46,400
or U-shape.

1309
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:48,960
>> Right, and then everybody and then spin

1310
00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:49,560
around and then stop.

1311
00:46:49,560 --> 00:46:51,720
>> This project and the impact that it's

1312
00:46:51,720 --> 00:46:53,400
going to have on the airport is almost

1313
00:46:53,400 --> 00:46:55,760
100% the reason

1314
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,640
we got the U-shape taxiway money.

1315
00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:00,880
This project is why.

1316
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:03,080
And it was only because

1317
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:04,840
uh this would have prevented us from

1318
00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:06,440
getting the ARFF vehicle.

1319
00:47:06,440 --> 00:47:07,640
>> Oh, yeah.

1320
00:47:07,640 --> 00:47:09,680
>> Yeah, so because of ARFF

1321
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,400
is why we got all that beautiful new

1322
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,680
taxiway is because of the pain that this

1323
00:47:13,680 --> 00:47:15,560
is going to cause them to the airport.

1324
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,160
So and as painful as this is going to be

1325
00:47:18,160 --> 00:47:19,520
and we're not ready to talk about this

1326
00:47:19,520 --> 00:47:24,190
one yet, entry road is going to be

1327
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:25,440
equally

1328
00:47:25,440 --> 00:47:27,990
this

1329
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,720
» Brutal I believe is a good adjective.

1330
00:47:29,720 --> 00:47:32,440
>> You just bite the bullet

1331
00:47:32,440 --> 00:47:34,280
and and and get through it the best you

1332
00:47:34,280 --> 00:47:35,720
can and we're going to provide access

1333
00:47:35,720 --> 00:47:37,680
points everywhere we can as much

1334
00:47:37,680 --> 00:47:40,120
wayfinding signage as we can

1335
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,160
to try and make sure everybody knows

1336
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:43,000
where they're going.

1337
00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:44,920
>> Yeah, I I think signage is a key thing.

1338
00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:47,040
I don't think in the existing project

1339
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:48,080
there

1340
00:47:48,080 --> 00:47:48,960
there's [clears throat] any signs at

1341
00:47:48,960 --> 00:47:50,120
all.

1342
00:47:50,120 --> 00:47:51,800
Uh so I think that it it'd be really

1343
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:54,600
important in this project to have

1344
00:47:54,600 --> 00:47:56,600
signs saying you know, you know,

1345
00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:58,640
for GA guys, you know, park down there.

1346
00:47:58,640 --> 00:48:01,000
>> Yeah, we talked about moving the sign

1347
00:48:01,000 --> 00:48:02,800
off of the current gate cuz they won't

1348
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:05,200
have access to that current

1349
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:06,640
>> But people are going to get on the other

1350
00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:07,000
gate.

1351
00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:08,000
>> I'm worried about moving it down. I'm

1352
00:48:08,000 --> 00:48:09,240
concerned about getting people out of

1353
00:48:09,240 --> 00:48:11,440
the airport at night. Right now, there's

1354
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:13,280
one gate that can do that, and that

1355
00:48:13,280 --> 00:48:15,200
gate's not going to be available.

1356
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:16,120
So, we're going to have to put some

1357
00:48:16,120 --> 00:48:18,080
wayfinding to get them over to the gate

1358
00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:19,920
by the fire station,

1359
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,160
um so they can use that one to get out.

1360
00:48:22,160 --> 00:48:23,080
>> So, that gate you're going to have to

1361
00:48:23,080 --> 00:48:24,360
put in a code that's going to be

1362
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:25,000
temporary

1363
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,680
>> 28 temporary 12280

1364
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:28,840
>> It's going to have a zero.

1365
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,400
>> It has to be five on that gate.

1366
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:31,080
>> All right.

1367
00:48:31,080 --> 00:48:33,640
>> So, it'll be 12280, which we're actually

1368
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:35,480
just going to put a placard up on the

1369
00:48:35,480 --> 00:48:36,760
outside,

1370
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:38,360
um saying that that's what the code is,

1371
00:48:38,360 --> 00:48:39,680
so they can get out because there's just

1372
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:42,480
no other way to get people out. So,

1373
00:48:42,480 --> 00:48:44,080
um because that one main gate's going to

1374
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,400
be open, the contractor is also going to

1375
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:48,120
have to have a person stationed at that

1376
00:48:48,120 --> 00:48:51,240
gate at the gate not letting people

1377
00:48:51,240 --> 00:48:53,760
through until they punch their code in

1378
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:55,440
and it goes beep.

1379
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,680
If it goes beep, they get to go in. If

1380
00:48:57,680 --> 00:48:59,720
they punch their code in and it

1381
00:48:59,720 --> 00:49:01,480
doesn't,

1382
00:49:01,480 --> 00:49:02,680
he's got to kick them out. So, that's

1383
00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,080
going to be the contractor on that.

1384
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,440
>> I have a question. You mentioned that

1385
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,040
because you're doing this all in one

1386
00:49:11,040 --> 00:49:14,240
piece now that it was a cheaper for

1387
00:49:14,240 --> 00:49:18,000
Who's Who's seeing the savings here?

1388
00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,200
You said that because we're we only have

1389
00:49:20,200 --> 00:49:22,360
one mob, I think, and you're allowing

1390
00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:24,280
them to do the entire

1391
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:28,440
grinding in one piece here. Where's the savings going?

1392
00:49:28,440 --> 00:49:30,760
>> I don't know, to be honest with you.

1393
00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:31,520
>> Well,

1394
00:49:31,520 --> 00:49:32,480
>> It was the

1395
00:49:32,480 --> 00:49:35,480
funded We the mobilization cost is what

1396
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,480
they were able to get down for the

1397
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:38,680
locally funded section.

1398
00:49:38,680 --> 00:49:40,840
>> funded portion.

1399
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:43,350
>> Um

1400
00:49:43,360 --> 00:49:45,840
The area of the

1401
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:48,680
>> Yeah, who's who's seeing the savings?

1402
00:49:48,680 --> 00:49:49,960
>> We are.

1403
00:49:49,960 --> 00:49:51,440
Because we're not going to have to pay

1404
00:49:51,440 --> 00:49:54,320
extra for the locally funded portion.

1405
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:56,360
This reduced the cost of the locally

1406
00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:57,280
funded portion.

1407
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:58,000
>> what I was looking at.

1408
00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,400
>> Okay, sorry. This is saying

1409
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,440
>> It's And it's unlike

1410
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:03,600
>> project.

1411
00:50:03,600 --> 00:50:06,480
Because it's There's no seam.

1412
00:50:06,480 --> 00:50:09,040
>> The overall project

1413
00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,200
it let's take out the locally funded.

1414
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:13,200
The overall project with the exception

1415
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:14,920
of the locally funded

1416
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:17,760
is your normal FAA split. In this case,

1417
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:21,320
95% FAA, 5% local.

1418
00:50:21,320 --> 00:50:23,240
The locally funded portion in front of

1419
00:50:23,240 --> 00:50:27,000
the hangars is 100% local.

1420
00:50:27,000 --> 00:50:29,000
So, every dollar that the cost is

1421
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:31,880
reduced, it's reduced a dollar for the

1422
00:50:31,880 --> 00:50:34,680
county versus

1423
00:50:34,680 --> 00:50:37,400
on other the overall large portion of

1424
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,520
the project for every dollar reduced, 5

1425
00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:41,680
cents is reduced on the county.

1426
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:42,960
So,

1427
00:50:42,960 --> 00:50:46,680
for any dollars saved, it's 100%

1428
00:50:46,680 --> 00:50:49,920
reduction of local funding.

1429
00:50:49,920 --> 00:50:52,120
>> Thank you. I understand now. Appreciate

1430
00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:58,470
it.

1431
00:50:58,480 --> 00:51:01,400
» All right. So, the

1432
00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:02,960
I was a little unclear on the roadway

1433
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,040
coming in. I think last meeting we we

1434
00:51:05,040 --> 00:51:06,600
didn't know if it was funded. We didn't

1435
00:51:06,600 --> 00:51:08,560
know a lot about it. Where are we at

1436
00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:12,920
with that project, the entry road?

1437
00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,200
>> We're working through the design. We're

1438
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:16,960
actually putting final touches on it.

1439
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:19,760
Uh, getting with Steve here on the last

1440
00:51:19,760 --> 00:51:22,600
couple of pieces, but we do have uh, I'd

1441
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:27,520
call it a 70% 70 to 80% drawing. And we

1442
00:51:27,520 --> 00:51:29,200
have had it gone through the FAA a

1443
00:51:29,200 --> 00:51:32,000
couple times as far as the specs go and

1444
00:51:32,000 --> 00:51:35,120
the the other reports, the CSPP and EDR.

1445
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:37,320
So, uh, hoping to get that buttoned up

1446
00:51:37,320 --> 00:51:39,920
here shortly. Uh, before that happens,

1447
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,400
we will get the uh, other project out,

1448
00:51:42,400 --> 00:51:44,360
the pavement preservation of all the

1449
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:48,040
remaining asphalt. That's at call it 90

1450
00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:49,680
95%

1451
00:51:49,680 --> 00:51:51,720
Uh, just waiting for final sign off from

1452
00:51:51,720 --> 00:51:54,880
the FAA and get that advertising bid and

1453
00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,560
hoping to get that construction going

1454
00:51:57,560 --> 00:52:01,040
and I would think August time frame

1455
00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:03,120
August uh

1456
00:52:03,120 --> 00:52:06,840
maybe end of July but

1457
00:52:06,840 --> 00:52:08,320
as far as the entrance road goes that

1458
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:09,960
one's a little more intensive obviously

1459
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:13,040
there's a more pavement more design

1460
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:17,520
but yes that is underway and getting a good

1461
00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,880
uh attention from our side.

1462
00:52:19,880 --> 00:52:22,760
>> And for the first part of your question

1463
00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:26,000
the funding Steve had gone to the county

1464
00:52:26,000 --> 00:52:28,200
and did get the because there had been

1465
00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:30,560
some questions about the local funding

1466
00:52:30,560 --> 00:52:33,040
aspect Steve was able to

1467
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:35,840
acquire the local funding

1468
00:52:35,840 --> 00:52:36,800
matches for

1469
00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:38,400
>> When will we When will we see that

1470
00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:40,880
design?

1471
00:52:40,880 --> 00:52:43,560
>> Like Thorson said it's at the

1472
00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,960
uh 79% we were out there with overviews

1473
00:52:46,960 --> 00:52:50,200
with Steve Thorson can get more into how

1474
00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:51,840
much

1475
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:53,480
um I don't know Thorson if you have the

1476
00:52:53,480 --> 00:52:55,200
ability to share a screen or not I could

1477
00:52:55,200 --> 00:52:56,440
probably pull it up since I'm in the

1478
00:52:56,440 --> 00:52:57,720
office.

1479
00:52:57,720 --> 00:53:00,040
>> Uh yeah I'm not available for that

1480
00:53:00,040 --> 00:53:01,160
sorry.

1481
00:53:01,160 --> 00:53:02,600
>> Okay.

1482
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:05,600
>> You well you find it out.

1483
00:53:05,600 --> 00:53:07,200
>> I think we'd like to take a look at that

1484
00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:11,520
if we could uh when it's ready.

1485
00:53:11,520 --> 00:53:13,240
>> Sure thing.

1486
00:53:13,240 --> 00:53:15,000
>> It'll we'll present

1487
00:53:15,000 --> 00:53:16,600
>> All right we got time to do that before

1488
00:53:16,600 --> 00:53:17,120
yeah.

1489
00:53:17,120 --> 00:53:18,560
>> We got time to do that?

1490
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:19,840
>> Yeah we'll

1491
00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,840
If he's at 79% we'll probably have it

1492
00:53:21,840 --> 00:53:23,080
for next meeting.

1493
00:53:23,080 --> 00:53:24,920
>> Yeah I would say we can

1494
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,960
at minimum get exhibits to show

1495
00:53:27,960 --> 00:53:32,040
uh project area. We have uh

1496
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:33,920
we're kind of the last piece we're

1497
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:36,200
dealing with right now is

1498
00:53:36,200 --> 00:53:39,200
uh the the actual asphalt section but as

1499
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,280
far as layout we and then as well

1500
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:42,880
uh

1501
00:53:42,880 --> 00:53:45,840
markings uh for the roundabout area.

1502
00:53:45,840 --> 00:53:47,480
Uh but yes, by the next meeting we'll

1503
00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:51,600
have uh some exhibits to share.

1504
00:53:51,600 --> 00:53:55,990
>> Great. Great.

1505
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:56,800
What else you got?

1506
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:57,560
>> And

1507
00:53:57,560 --> 00:53:59,960
I would just follow up that they are

1508
00:53:59,960 --> 00:54:01,160
there. They're definitely not in a

1509
00:54:01,160 --> 00:54:04,080
location to be shared at the moment, but

1510
00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:07,280
we are taking into account um especially

1511
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,560
the roundabout. It's actually been quite

1512
00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:10,840
the uh

1513
00:54:10,840 --> 00:54:12,720
process to figure out how to deal with

1514
00:54:12,720 --> 00:54:14,800
the roundabout that's in front of the

1515
00:54:14,800 --> 00:54:17,240
old drop-off for the terminal, but

1516
00:54:17,240 --> 00:54:19,800
recognizing people still use it. So,

1517
00:54:19,800 --> 00:54:22,200
making it both a combination of a road

1518
00:54:22,200 --> 00:54:24,080
and still providing a

1519
00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,480
turnaround or a pullout in front of the

1520
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:28,000
side

1521
00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:29,240
terminal entrance.

1522
00:54:29,240 --> 00:54:31,320
>> and a drop-off only lane

1523
00:54:31,320 --> 00:54:33,320
>> and a bus turnaround as well.

1524
00:54:33,320 --> 00:54:34,920
>> and a bus turnaround is the way we're

1525
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:37,440
trying to put it together.

1526
00:54:37,440 --> 00:54:39,360
>> Yeah, for that we're getting a little

1527
00:54:39,360 --> 00:54:40,360
bit

1528
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,600
making it a little wider. Uh actually,

1529
00:54:42,600 --> 00:54:44,000
it was convenient the day we were out

1530
00:54:44,000 --> 00:54:46,400
there with Steve, a bus had come by and

1531
00:54:46,400 --> 00:54:48,560
we watched him have to make a

1532
00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:50,800
three three- or four-point turn. So,

1533
00:54:50,800 --> 00:54:52,760
that gave us a real good idea of hey, if

1534
00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:54,840
we bump this pavement out a little bit,

1535
00:54:54,840 --> 00:54:57,560
they'll be able to do it in one swoop,

1536
00:54:57,560 --> 00:55:00,560
if not a three-point turn.

1537
00:55:00,560 --> 00:55:01,840
>> Yeah.

1538
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:03,560
I mean, he almost made it, but

1539
00:55:03,560 --> 00:55:04,040
>> Almost.

1540
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:05,840
>> Yeah, he could have made it if he did a

1541
00:55:05,840 --> 00:55:08,040
little bit of Moab off-roading.

1542
00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:09,560
>> But, we kind of figured out a way so

1543
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:11,720
they'll be able to make that turn and I

1544
00:55:11,720 --> 00:55:13,160
think it's important that we have that

1545
00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:15,520
drop-off and pick-up zone right there.

1546
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:17,480
Um so, that'll all still be there as

1547
00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,600
part of this project. It won't be what

1548
00:55:19,600 --> 00:55:21,880
you would consider a roundabout.

1549
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:23,080
Cuz a roundabout with nothing in the

1550
00:55:23,080 --> 00:55:24,720
middle of it is

1551
00:55:24,720 --> 00:55:26,960
kind of silly. So, it's just going to be

1552
00:55:26,960 --> 00:55:28,680
a road with a drop-off zone that comes

1553
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:31,200
out. When that design's ready, we'll bring

1554
00:55:31,200 --> 00:55:32,680
>> You should have a really pretty statue

1555
00:55:32,680 --> 00:55:33,840
in the middle of the roundabout.

1556
00:55:33,840 --> 00:55:35,480
>> So, yeah.

1557
00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:37,080
No, they're they're part of the artwork

1558
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:37,680
thing.

1559
00:55:37,680 --> 00:55:39,520
>> Yeah, no, That's That's what I hear. I

1560
00:55:39,520 --> 00:55:40,880
mean the the roundabout and something in

1561
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:43,200
the middle of it is pretty cool.

1562
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:48,040
But where the unpaved roundabout is now will

1563
00:55:48,040 --> 00:55:50,880
be a marked line. So we won't

1564
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:53,000
necessarily mark the edges of the road

1565
00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:54,960
for the whole length of the road, but in

1566
00:55:54,960 --> 00:55:57,960
that corner, it'll be a combination of

1567
00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,280
solid and dashed white and yellow lines

1568
00:56:00,280 --> 00:56:02,200
that you would see that would meet more

1569
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:03,520
of the standards that you would get on

1570
00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:12,110
road traffic.

1571
00:56:12,120 --> 00:56:14,520
All right, is that it?

1572
00:56:14,520 --> 00:56:16,000
>> Yeah, unless there's any other questions

1573
00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:18,240
I can answer.

1574
00:56:18,240 --> 00:56:20,200
>> Uh yeah, if I you guys don't mind me

1575
00:56:20,200 --> 00:56:22,120
chiming in here. Um I'm wondering is

1576
00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:25,520
there any way that we can get

1577
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:29,480
landside access to Hangar 118?

1578
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,880
>> Our our new hangar

1579
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:33,000
>> Yeah,

1580
00:56:33,000 --> 00:56:37,160
you'll have a landside access.

1581
00:56:37,160 --> 00:56:38,360
Um

1582
00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:39,880
cuz that's where we're going to bring

1583
00:56:39,880 --> 00:56:42,120
people. I don't know if there's

1584
00:56:42,120 --> 00:56:43,760
I'll go back there and see what it would

1585
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:45,240
take. But yeah, we would like you to

1586
00:56:45,240 --> 00:56:46,840
have landside access.

1587
00:56:46,840 --> 00:56:49,360
>> Which one is 118 by

1588
00:56:49,360 --> 00:56:51,720
Is that the large

1589
00:56:51,720 --> 00:56:54,760
hangar to the south of the

1590
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:57,040
uh snowmobile building?

1591
00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:58,640
>> Yeah, that's correct.

1592
00:56:58,640 --> 00:56:59,760
>> Okay.

1593
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:01,200
>> The one that we acquired.

1594
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:03,480
>> Yeah, unfortunately. Nick gained a

1595
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:05,320
little weight.

1596
00:57:05,320 --> 00:57:08,510
It's much better.

1597
00:57:08,520 --> 00:57:10,680
So yeah, we would we Alvin, we would

1598
00:57:10,680 --> 00:57:13,000
like you to have access to that and

1599
00:57:13,000 --> 00:57:14,560
whatever we can do to help make that

1600
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,920
happen is going to help make all of this

1601
00:57:16,920 --> 00:57:18,520
go smoother. So

1602
00:57:18,520 --> 00:57:18,960
>> Yeah.

1603
00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:20,400
we'll try and get that.

1604
00:57:20,400 --> 00:57:22,120
>> We'll probably need ground to that

1605
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:24,480
airside too, which we will

1606
00:57:24,480 --> 00:57:26,480
obviously have to

1607
00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:28,720
watch and you know

1608
00:57:28,720 --> 00:57:29,720
shuffle that.

1609
00:57:29,720 --> 00:57:32,680
>> But The gates going to be there. We have

1610
00:57:32,680 --> 00:57:34,560
going to do a bit of that now already.

1611
00:57:34,560 --> 00:57:36,640
That works very well for us. We'll just

1612
00:57:36,640 --> 00:57:39,240
have to extend it down that taxiway.

1613
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,040
Now, I guess my concern is too is how do

1614
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:43,880
we stay out of the way of the

1615
00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:46,280
construction and

1616
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:47,760
where

1617
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:49,760
>> When you mean when you're tugging or

1618
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,400
>> Yeah. We'll We'll

1619
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,120
work very clearly or we have safety

1620
00:57:53,120 --> 00:57:55,400
meetings every week. So, attend those

1621
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:57,520
meetings. Okay. Yeah. Cuz we will have

1622
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:58,320
to have

1623
00:57:58,320 --> 00:57:59,080
>> And we could.

1624
00:57:59,080 --> 00:58:02,320
>> front hangar access from the ground side

1625
00:58:02,320 --> 00:58:03,560
as well.

1626
00:58:03,560 --> 00:58:05,600
Back there similar to what we have

1627
00:58:05,600 --> 00:58:06,280
today.

1628
00:58:06,280 --> 00:58:06,880
>> Okay.

1629
00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:08,920
>> So.

1630
00:58:08,920 --> 00:58:10,520
>> And

1631
00:58:10,520 --> 00:58:13,200
I just want to make one thing very clear

1632
00:58:13,200 --> 00:58:15,880
on the entrance road project.

1633
00:58:15,880 --> 00:58:18,520
It will be

1634
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:22,320
a significant difficulty for everybody

1635
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:25,560
on the airport. We are working through

1636
00:58:25,560 --> 00:58:29,720
many different iterations of phasing and

1637
00:58:29,720 --> 00:58:33,160
uh as Bill said, wayfinding and signage

1638
00:58:33,160 --> 00:58:34,960
will be key.

1639
00:58:34,960 --> 00:58:37,240
But, please recognize that with the only

1640
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,520
one entrance road and we're paving it

1641
00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:41,720
from the start to the finish, there's no

1642
00:58:41,720 --> 00:58:46,360
way that we're not going to disrupt

1643
00:58:46,360 --> 00:58:48,360
the

1644
00:58:48,360 --> 00:58:51,000
flow of the airfield. So, we're trying

1645
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:52,680
to look at it in any possible way to

1646
00:58:52,680 --> 00:58:55,120
minimize that, but

1647
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:57,240
please recognize there's no way to fix a

1648
00:58:57,240 --> 00:58:59,880
road without shutting down that road.

1649
00:58:59,880 --> 00:59:02,160
And it's there's not a second entrance

1650
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:04,760
to the airport. It's not a four-lane

1651
00:59:04,760 --> 00:59:06,720
wide road that we could take out two

1652
00:59:06,720 --> 00:59:08,960
lanes and then do two lanes.

1653
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:09,520
It is a

1654
00:59:09,520 --> 00:59:11,680
>> So, so is Why is it not a four-lane

1655
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:13,600
road?

1656
00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:14,880
>> Uh

1657
00:59:14,880 --> 00:59:16,840
>> Probably because of the access to the

1658
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:19,600
191.

1659
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:21,840
>> Well, I mean if you if you if you had a

1660
00:59:21,840 --> 00:59:24,040
four-lane road, you could keep two open

1661
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:25,720
and two open and

1662
00:59:25,720 --> 00:59:27,560
pave two and you know,

1663
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:28,240
go

1664
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:32,000
Is Is there any chance of doing that?

1665
00:59:32,000 --> 00:59:37,590
>> Uh definitely not with this funding.

1666
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:38,520
» Hey.

1667
00:59:38,520 --> 00:59:40,920
>> I would say not with available funding.

1668
00:59:40,920 --> 00:59:42,880
>> At least double the cost.

1669
00:59:42,880 --> 00:59:44,880
>> Um and also we'd have to figure out a

1670
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:49,350
place to put those other two lanes.

1671
00:59:49,360 --> 00:59:50,720
A lot of places there's not really a

1672
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:53,560
spot to put another lane in.

1673
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,480
But yeah, well that's not part of this.

1674
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:57,160
>> And

1675
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,360
>> But But Bill brings up a good point

1676
00:59:59,360 --> 01:00:01,240
though. Shouldn't we be looking to the

1677
01:00:01,240 --> 01:00:04,600
future here? Or are we and that just is

1678
01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:06,400
so far out that we aren't going to need

1679
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:08,920
those four lanes?

1680
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:11,320
What Where is our future projection

1681
01:00:11,320 --> 01:00:12,720
there?

1682
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:14,760
>> There really is not the volume of

1683
01:00:14,760 --> 01:00:18,240
traffic to justify.

1684
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,400
I don't think that's where we're looking

1685
01:00:20,400 --> 01:00:23,440
for that future larger traffic.

1686
01:00:23,440 --> 01:00:25,320
I think we're looking for that traffic

1687
01:00:25,320 --> 01:00:27,960
to be back on the road that goes behind

1688
01:00:27,960 --> 01:00:29,280
the hangars.

1689
01:00:29,280 --> 01:00:30,240
I think we're going to have a higher

1690
01:00:30,240 --> 01:00:31,600
volume of traffic there than we're going

1691
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:33,720
to have coming down to the fire station,

1692
01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:36,280
if that makes sense.

1693
01:00:36,280 --> 01:00:36,920
>> Mhm.

1694
01:00:36,920 --> 01:00:37,400
>> It does.

1695
01:00:37,400 --> 01:00:39,120
>> Once there are parking lots back there,

1696
01:00:39,120 --> 01:00:40,640
you're you're going to have four lanes.

1697
01:00:40,640 --> 01:00:42,640
It's just going to be a two and a two.

1698
01:00:42,640 --> 01:00:43,040
>> Mhm.

1699
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:45,280
>> Um

1700
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,040
Yeah, we're ways off from having that.

1701
01:00:47,040 --> 01:00:48,000
>> Well, so you

1702
01:00:48,000 --> 01:00:50,560
So the entrance to the behind all those

1703
01:00:50,560 --> 01:00:53,560
and future hangars uh would be having a

1704
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,360
different entrance than the one we're

1705
01:00:55,360 --> 01:00:56,720
talking about here.

1706
01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,960
>> Yeah. Well, no. Not We all still have to

1707
01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:00,960
enter off of the same thing off 191.

1708
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:02,200
You'd just have some of the cars that

1709
01:01:02,200 --> 01:01:03,520
split down the first one that's your

1710
01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:06,280
hangar row and the rest would go up to

1711
01:01:06,280 --> 01:01:11,120
either fire station, back of Redtail, or

1712
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:11,800
>> Terminal.

1713
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:13,440
>> Yeah, the terminal and the still skydive

1714
01:01:13,440 --> 01:01:14,760
would all still be going down to the new

1715
01:01:14,760 --> 01:01:16,400
skydive.

1716
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:17,920
So it'd just be two and two.

1717
01:01:17,920 --> 01:01:19,480
>> Yeah, but it's still just two coming off

1718
01:01:19,480 --> 01:01:20,080
the road.

1719
01:01:20,080 --> 01:01:21,280
>> Yeah. Yeah.

1720
01:01:21,280 --> 01:01:22,520
>> And then it splits.

1721
01:01:22,520 --> 01:01:24,640
>> It's still the bottom neck is the part

1722
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:25,960
from the road to that.

1723
01:01:25,960 --> 01:01:27,920
>> Yeah, we can certainly look to design

1724
01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:29,840
that road to be wider

1725
01:01:29,840 --> 01:01:31,960
in the future, for sure. It's all just a

1726
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:33,760
matter of money.

1727
01:01:33,760 --> 01:01:35,520
And what we can get funded and what we

1728
01:01:35,520 --> 01:01:38,200
can justify by traffic. We can't justify

1729
01:01:38,200 --> 01:01:38,720
it with the traffic.

1730
01:01:38,720 --> 01:01:41,240
>> way we can offset it now?

1731
01:01:41,240 --> 01:01:42,920
You know, to

1732
01:01:42,920 --> 01:01:43,880
you know,

1733
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:45,840
build the new road or the the new

1734
01:01:45,840 --> 01:01:48,400
pavement, if you will, to to a little

1735
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,440
bit to the side and allow us to dirt or

1736
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:54,200
the existing road to exist or to you

1737
01:01:54,200 --> 01:01:57,670
know, to keep traffic to flow on it.

1738
01:01:57,680 --> 01:01:59,880
» They still going to have to cross it cuz

1739
01:01:59,880 --> 01:02:01,880
it's going to be cut off. It's going to

1740
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:02,480
be a cut off.

1741
01:02:02,480 --> 01:02:04,680
>> be a short short distance of cut off,

1742
01:02:04,680 --> 01:02:05,360
though.

1743
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:06,520
>> I don't know how much we'd gain with

1744
01:02:06,520 --> 01:02:07,600
that. And next time you're out there,

1745
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:09,320
walk out to kind of explain what we're

1746
01:02:09,320 --> 01:02:10,640
talking about.

1747
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:11,720
>> Well, if you

1748
01:02:11,720 --> 01:02:13,000
>> So, you're talking about grading out a

1749
01:02:13,000 --> 01:02:15,320
piece so that traffic can drive further

1750
01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:17,520
down. Still couldn't get to the parking

1751
01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:18,680
spaces.

1752
01:02:18,680 --> 01:02:21,000
>> Well, well, well, during the

1753
01:02:21,000 --> 01:02:21,960
construction.

1754
01:02:21,960 --> 01:02:23,560
>> Yeah. I'm just thinking that

1755
01:02:23,560 --> 01:02:25,480
>> if we want to if we're thinking about

1756
01:02:25,480 --> 01:02:28,040
widening that to three lanes or

1757
01:02:28,040 --> 01:02:30,520
four lanes, you know, could we the new

1758
01:02:30,520 --> 01:02:32,600
road that we're putting in there,

1759
01:02:32,600 --> 01:02:35,240
could we just, you know,

1760
01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:35,880
uh

1761
01:02:35,880 --> 01:02:37,520
put that to the side of the existing

1762
01:02:37,520 --> 01:02:39,480
road as opposed to paving over paving

1763
01:02:39,480 --> 01:02:40,800
over the 50 ft

1764
01:02:40,800 --> 01:02:47,390
of road.

1765
01:02:47,400 --> 01:02:49,800
» I don't think under this project we can.

1766
01:02:49,800 --> 01:02:52,320
Because we already have an entrance to

1767
01:02:52,320 --> 01:02:53,040
um

1768
01:02:53,040 --> 01:02:54,600
the highway.

1769
01:02:54,600 --> 01:02:56,320
We

1770
01:02:56,320 --> 01:02:58,360
have new built pavement there and we

1771
01:02:58,360 --> 01:03:00,600
have failing pavement where we are. In

1772
01:03:00,600 --> 01:03:02,280
some places we're not we're not going

1773
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,480
down to full depth to rebuild this. This

1774
01:03:04,480 --> 01:03:05,840
is going to be in some places we're just

1775
01:03:05,840 --> 01:03:07,600
going to mill and fill. And in other

1776
01:03:07,600 --> 01:03:10,760
places we have to go full depth.

1777
01:03:10,760 --> 01:03:12,880
So, if we moved it and said, "Oh, we're

1778
01:03:12,880 --> 01:03:14,080
just going to build a completely

1779
01:03:14,080 --> 01:03:15,800
separate road over here so that we get

1780
01:03:15,800 --> 01:03:17,560
two for the price of one." and two, the

1781
01:03:17,560 --> 01:03:18,920
things we're saying

1782
01:03:18,920 --> 01:03:20,440
uh that would be full depth the whole

1783
01:03:20,440 --> 01:03:23,160
way, and we would not have money to do

1784
01:03:23,160 --> 01:03:24,360
that.

1785
01:03:24,360 --> 01:03:25,560
>> Okay.

1786
01:03:25,560 --> 01:03:27,640
>> And environmentally, that is different

1787
01:03:27,640 --> 01:03:30,040
than what was uh cleared at at this

1788
01:03:30,040 --> 01:03:33,000
point. Uh it would definitely

1789
01:03:33,000 --> 01:03:35,560
be a long process to do

1790
01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:38,240
what you're talking about.

1791
01:03:38,240 --> 01:03:40,920
>> Calvin does have a question. Um when is

1792
01:03:40,920 --> 01:03:44,320
the entrance project proposed dates?

1793
01:03:44,320 --> 01:03:46,080
>> Well I don't know if if they've got

1794
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:47,640
something updated for Mark, then they

1795
01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:49,160
can let us know, but we're we're looking

1796
01:03:49,160 --> 01:03:52,520
at that in the fall. Um but until they

1797
01:03:52,520 --> 01:03:54,960
get it designed and bid,

1798
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,400
um it's hard to nail down a precise

1799
01:03:57,400 --> 01:03:58,320
date.

1800
01:03:58,320 --> 01:04:00,000
>> Okay then. When do you think

1801
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,760
>> My answer would be

1802
01:04:02,760 --> 01:04:03,720
>> What?

1803
01:04:03,720 --> 01:04:05,440
>> My answer would be fall time frame. I

1804
01:04:05,440 --> 01:04:08,590
agree, sorry.

1805
01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:10,560
» Yeah, just now when can we expect the

1806
01:04:10,560 --> 01:04:12,400
board we can actually see our

1807
01:04:12,400 --> 01:04:14,160
>> As soon as he gives me something, I'll

1808
01:04:14,160 --> 01:04:15,920
send it out, but we'll discuss it at the

1809
01:04:15,920 --> 01:04:16,640
next meeting.

1810
01:04:16,640 --> 01:04:18,240
>> Yeah, he he said he thought he'd have

1811
01:04:18,240 --> 01:04:19,360
some

1812
01:04:19,360 --> 01:04:20,680
drawing into the next meeting.

1813
01:04:20,680 --> 01:04:21,840
>> Okay.

1814
01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:23,960
>> Yes. One month

1815
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:26,240
from now

1816
01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:28,200
>> And we will also have a meeting with

1817
01:04:28,200 --> 01:04:30,800
airport users at the bid. Just kind of

1818
01:04:30,800 --> 01:04:33,200
like we did with this project.

1819
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:34,760
Well we'll where we'll just all talk

1820
01:04:34,760 --> 01:04:37,320
through what are the best ways to make

1821
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:39,520
this as least painful as possible.

1822
01:04:39,520 --> 01:04:41,800
There's no way to make it not painful,

1823
01:04:41,800 --> 01:04:43,720
but to try and minimize it.

1824
01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:45,400
>> I think um

1825
01:04:45,400 --> 01:04:47,480
we'll also develop a we can easily

1826
01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:50,680
develop an exhibit that could be put up

1827
01:04:50,680 --> 01:04:54,080
on the airport's Facebook page, airport

1828
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:57,640
county webpage, on the county news, um

1829
01:04:57,640 --> 01:05:00,160
if even going so far as being published

1830
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:02,800
in the newspaper, so that

1831
01:05:02,800 --> 01:05:04,680
people

1832
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:05,840
there's no way you're not going to get

1833
01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:08,990
complaints on this one.

1834
01:05:09,000 --> 01:05:09,840
But

1835
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:11,200
>> Say like is there any way they could

1836
01:05:11,200 --> 01:05:12,880
considered like doing it at night, you

1837
01:05:12,880 --> 01:05:14,280
know?

1838
01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:15,800
>> I mean, it's taking We're talking of

1839
01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:18,560
weeks and weeks of work.

1840
01:05:18,560 --> 01:05:23,230
So.

1841
01:05:23,240 --> 01:05:25,280
Doing it at night

1842
01:05:25,280 --> 01:05:27,920
doesn't necessarily save us any way

1843
01:05:27,920 --> 01:05:30,520
because we've got a hole.

1844
01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:32,360
So, we can dig a hole at night, but

1845
01:05:32,360 --> 01:05:34,840
people still can't drive from over it

1846
01:05:34,840 --> 01:05:36,280
cuz the hole is still going to be there

1847
01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:37,400
all day.

1848
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,480
So, I mean, there are some kind of like

1849
01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:41,000
runway projects that makes a lot of

1850
01:05:41,000 --> 01:05:42,800
sense to try and do at night,

1851
01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:44,000
obviously.

1852
01:05:44,000 --> 01:05:46,080
Which is what we're going to try and do

1853
01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:48,120
with the seal coat project. We're trying

1854
01:05:48,120 --> 01:05:49,880
to do it at night so that

1855
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,200
so that's when there's not traffic flow.

1856
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:55,360
But some other projects

1857
01:05:55,360 --> 01:05:57,320
night doesn't help us with this one.

1858
01:05:57,320 --> 01:05:59,800
Doesn't doesn't buy us anything.

1859
01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:05,310
>> I do.

1860
01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:12,990
» Anything else from blogger?

1861
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:18,470
» I'm good. Thank you.

1862
01:06:18,480 --> 01:06:20,240
» You're breaking up. You said

1863
01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:21,790
>> Did we do

1864
01:06:21,790 --> 01:06:21,880
>> [clears throat]

1865
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:23,280
>> I'm sorry. With all of that, I can't

1866
01:06:23,280 --> 01:06:24,480
remember did we talk about pavement

1867
01:06:24,480 --> 01:06:26,600
preservation?

1868
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:27,800
>> We did briefly.

1869
01:06:27,800 --> 01:06:29,480
>> Other than briefly.

1870
01:06:29,480 --> 01:06:31,280
So.

1871
01:06:31,280 --> 01:06:32,600
That will be an airfield pavement

1872
01:06:32,600 --> 01:06:35,760
preservation. That will involve

1873
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:37,920
runway closures.

1874
01:06:37,920 --> 01:06:42,070
With that, we will work

1875
01:06:42,080 --> 01:06:44,080
» Those seal a lot faster, so it's not

1876
01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:46,800
going to be like

1877
01:06:46,800 --> 01:06:48,520
a lot of runway closures for a long

1878
01:06:48,520 --> 01:06:50,960
time. And with that one, we've got to

1879
01:06:50,960 --> 01:06:52,320
coordinate

1880
01:06:52,320 --> 01:06:53,840
closely with you guys as soon as we

1881
01:06:53,840 --> 01:06:55,840
possibly can. So, yeah.

1882
01:06:55,840 --> 01:06:56,280
>> Yeah.

1883
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:57,400
>> I don't know if we need to be

1884
01:06:57,400 --> 01:06:58,360
>> He was right in that

1885
01:06:58,360 --> 01:06:59,440
>> Hopefully, what we're going to try and

1886
01:06:59,440 --> 01:07:01,000
do is do that at night as much as

1887
01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,000
possible. It does not take 48 hours for

1888
01:07:04,000 --> 01:07:07,240
that to to cure up and be ready to go.

1889
01:07:07,240 --> 01:07:10,360
As soon as it's not tacky

1890
01:07:10,360 --> 01:07:11,440
over there.

1891
01:07:11,440 --> 01:07:18,150
>> Yeah.

1892
01:07:18,160 --> 01:07:21,230
» All right.

1893
01:07:21,240 --> 01:07:22,080
Uh

1894
01:07:22,080 --> 01:07:26,350
any other reports?

1895
01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,160
Need to talk about?

1896
01:07:28,160 --> 01:07:29,520
All right.

1897
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,000
Uh

1898
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:34,160
So, discussion I had planned number nine

1899
01:07:34,160 --> 01:07:34,960
Uh

1900
01:07:34,960 --> 01:07:37,160
I think that's

1901
01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:40,520
several different things together.

1902
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:43,320
Uh marketing and website design.

1903
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:44,960
Whose is that?

1904
01:07:44,960 --> 01:07:47,520
>> I requested it be on here.

1905
01:07:47,520 --> 01:07:51,720
>> We can give you a slight update on the website. We we do now have access

1906
01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:53,920
to the county's airport website, which

1907
01:07:53,920 --> 01:07:56,360
we haven't had. IT has now given us

1908
01:07:56,360 --> 01:07:58,600
access both uh

1909
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,800
original and the south. So, we

1910
01:08:01,800 --> 01:08:04,080
can now start making updates and changes

1911
01:08:04,080 --> 01:08:08,000
to that. Things like putting on this project plan,

1912
01:08:08,000 --> 01:08:10,360
uh showing future future issues that

1913
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,440
might come up, or pictures of cool stuff

1914
01:08:12,440 --> 01:08:13,760
that happens at the airport. We've had a

1915
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:16,240
few really cool things lately that that

1916
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:17,640
we've got lots of pictures of, so we're

1917
01:08:17,640 --> 01:08:18,920
ready to

1918
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,160
try and get those up there as well.

1919
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:23,240
So, hopefully you'll start seeing a a

1920
01:08:23,240 --> 01:08:25,000
pretty decent change to what's on the

1921
01:08:25,000 --> 01:08:26,720
county's website

1922
01:08:26,720 --> 01:08:28,640
as it is now.

1923
01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:31,080
>> What are we doing for social media?

1924
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:33,120
>> Well, we have we have a Facebook page.

1925
01:08:33,120 --> 01:08:34,080
>> Yeah, that's what

1926
01:08:34,080 --> 01:08:35,080
>> Somebody maintain it?

1927
01:08:35,080 --> 01:08:36,839
>> We have it. We're putting pictures up on

1928
01:08:36,839 --> 01:08:38,440
it and and trying to keep that as

1929
01:08:38,440 --> 01:08:40,680
current as possible. Um then we have the

1930
01:08:40,680 --> 01:08:43,319
county's webpage. We don't have

1931
01:08:43,319 --> 01:08:45,480
um any of the other social media to the

1932
01:08:45,480 --> 01:08:46,480
best of my knowledge. We don't have any

1933
01:08:46,480 --> 01:08:47,640
Instagram.

1934
01:08:47,640 --> 01:08:48,240
>> Okay.

1935
01:08:48,240 --> 01:08:49,720
>> Do we have any Instagram? Have we been

1936
01:08:49,720 --> 01:08:50,520
posting on it?

1937
01:08:50,520 --> 01:08:51,759
>> I don't think I was supposed to be

1938
01:08:51,759 --> 01:08:53,560
posting, but I don't know for sure.

1939
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:55,680
>> Okay, I I didn't even know we had it.

1940
01:08:55,680 --> 01:08:56,200
>> Yeah.

1941
01:08:56,200 --> 01:08:56,960
>> Instagram.

1942
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:57,240
>> Sorry.

1943
01:08:57,240 --> 01:08:58,480
>> All right.

1944
01:08:58,480 --> 01:09:00,240
We're better on it than I thought.

1945
01:09:00,240 --> 01:09:02,319
So, yeah, we're we're trying to maintain

1946
01:09:02,319 --> 01:09:03,560
some of that presence, and we're trying

1947
01:09:03,560 --> 01:09:04,799
to get more on top of things as well.

1948
01:09:04,799 --> 01:09:07,560
>> have suggestions, please let me know.

1949
01:09:07,560 --> 01:09:08,240
Uh,

1950
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:11,520
cuz I'm open to putting, you know, I

1951
01:09:11,520 --> 01:09:13,920
wanted to I wanted to look really well,

1952
01:09:13,920 --> 01:09:15,759
you know, doing

1953
01:09:15,759 --> 01:09:18,279
for our for our airport. I want it to be

1954
01:09:18,279 --> 01:09:19,920
up-to-date. I want cool stuff that's

1955
01:09:19,920 --> 01:09:22,520
going on that involves the airport. If

1956
01:09:22,520 --> 01:09:24,759
you guys have pictures, send them to me.

1957
01:09:24,759 --> 01:09:25,720
And then we're going to put some

1958
01:09:25,720 --> 01:09:28,440
pictures like SkyDive Moab. Just they

1959
01:09:28,440 --> 01:09:30,880
did some Utah State records over the

1960
01:09:30,880 --> 01:09:33,960
weekend for some of their their stuff.

1961
01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:35,560
So, we're going to, you know, post them

1962
01:09:35,560 --> 01:09:37,120
on there. I want to make sure all the

1963
01:09:37,120 --> 01:09:43,640
businesses that are on on the field have are represented on

1964
01:09:43,640 --> 01:09:45,759
our website because I mean that's, you

1965
01:09:45,759 --> 01:09:47,960
know, they're part of the airport.

1966
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:49,839
>> It's moabairport.com.

1967
01:09:49,839 --> 01:09:51,440
I think we have a redirect on it right

1968
01:09:51,440 --> 01:09:52,040
now.

1969
01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:52,440
>> Okay.

1970
01:09:52,440 --> 01:09:56,320
>> That throws you to the county's website.

1971
01:09:56,320 --> 01:09:58,360
So, I forgot we did have an actual

1972
01:09:58,360 --> 01:09:59,000
website out there.

1973
01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:00,080
>> We we own the website.

1974
01:10:00,080 --> 01:10:00,560
>> What's the name?

1975
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:02,080
>> It's moabairport.com.

1976
01:10:02,080 --> 01:10:02,480
>> Okay.

1977
01:10:02,480 --> 01:10:04,080
>> Is that what was it? Moab what?

1978
01:10:04,080 --> 01:10:05,680
>> moabairport.com.

1979
01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:07,480
It will be fine but it still redirects

1980
01:10:07,480 --> 01:10:09,640
to the county site and we just have to

1981
01:10:09,640 --> 01:10:11,640
improve not just to the county site but

1982
01:10:11,640 --> 01:10:14,560
the airport's page on the county site

1983
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:16,440
cuz then we'll keep this updated.

1984
01:10:16,440 --> 01:10:18,000
>> Yeah, he's just got to redirect from it

1985
01:10:18,000 --> 01:10:19,800
to the county.net or whatever it is.

1986
01:10:19,800 --> 01:10:20,240
>> Okay.

1987
01:10:20,240 --> 01:10:21,760
>> So, he can take that off and wherever

1988
01:10:21,760 --> 01:10:23,920
the remnants of that moabairport.com

1989
01:10:23,920 --> 01:10:25,680
are, he's probably Matt probably has

1990
01:10:25,680 --> 01:10:28,000
them archived or stored somewhere and

1991
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:29,800
give you access to what is there.

1992
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:30,600
>> Yeah.

1993
01:10:30,600 --> 01:10:33,360
>> As for what goes on it, the two examples

1994
01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:35,840
I pulled up that I liked were

1995
01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:37,640
Vernal You'll figure.

1996
01:10:37,640 --> 01:10:37,840
>> Okay.

1997
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:39,120
>> And Rifle.

1998
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:40,800
They're kind of two different approaches

1999
01:10:40,800 --> 01:10:43,960
at it. Rifle seems to be a lot more GA

2000
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:46,040
oriented. I mean, it has some cool stuff

2001
01:10:46,040 --> 01:10:47,680
about the CareFlight they've got out of

2002
01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,040
there with helicopter rescues.

2003
01:10:50,040 --> 01:10:51,880
It's definitely more tailored towards

2004
01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:53,880
pilots. Runway information, NOTAMs that

2005
01:10:53,880 --> 01:10:55,360
are all right across the top on the

2006
01:10:55,360 --> 01:10:58,040
banner. I mean, they got a whole of bush

2007
01:10:58,040 --> 01:11:00,080
planes right there, so Turnagain is very

2008
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:01,440
sweet.

2009
01:11:01,440 --> 01:11:03,040
That's one way to go. The other way is

2010
01:11:03,040 --> 01:11:05,440
Bernal. That's definitely more oriented

2011
01:11:05,440 --> 01:11:07,160
towards tourism. I mean, right on their

2012
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:10,320
homepage, they call it a a hero web

2013
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:12,120
part. It's got how to book a flight,

2014
01:11:12,120 --> 01:11:14,080
hotels and lodging, car rentals. So,

2015
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:16,000
you're just firing right into when you

2016
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:18,160
get four options down before you're at

2017
01:11:18,160 --> 01:11:21,240
service and pilot information. So,

2018
01:11:21,240 --> 01:11:23,040
I think those are good kind of two

2019
01:11:23,040 --> 01:11:25,680
different takes to take on this thing

2020
01:11:25,680 --> 01:11:27,280
and maybe a meld somewhere in the middle

2021
01:11:27,280 --> 01:11:28,000
of two.

2022
01:11:28,000 --> 01:11:29,520
>> And if you looked at the download mean,

2023
01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:30,440
I don't know,

2024
01:11:30,440 --> 01:11:32,320
like just

2025
01:11:32,320 --> 01:11:33,840
you know, maybe guide me on what you

2026
01:11:33,840 --> 01:11:35,160
guys are thinking.

2027
01:11:35,160 --> 01:11:36,240
>> I'm absolutely

2028
01:11:36,240 --> 01:11:37,840
>> open to that.

2029
01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:39,240
>> But Jay, would you be able to willing to

2030
01:11:39,240 --> 01:11:41,120
help on, you know, getting there and

2031
01:11:41,120 --> 01:11:43,000
then help with some of that work?

2032
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:44,240
>> Absolutely.

2033
01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:46,160
>> Perfect.

2034
01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:46,760
>> Thank you.

2035
01:11:46,760 --> 01:11:47,200
>> Absolutely.

2036
01:11:47,200 --> 01:11:48,680
>> Probably want to make sure we're working

2037
01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:50,440
with our economic developers.

2038
01:11:50,440 --> 01:11:52,160
>> Yeah, I would think so.

2039
01:11:52,160 --> 01:11:54,360
>> I would say the same, too.

2040
01:11:54,360 --> 01:11:56,080
>> Yeah, let's see if we can get that tool

2041
01:11:56,080 --> 01:11:59,160
back up and get it working really well.

2042
01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:00,560
With some of these other approaches.

2043
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:02,640
Sounds like a really good idea because

2044
01:12:02,640 --> 01:12:04,960
surprising number of people

2045
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:07,000
buy their information that way.

2046
01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:10,470
There isn't any other way, really.

2047
01:12:10,480 --> 01:12:14,430
» A fancy sign would help.

2048
01:12:14,440 --> 01:12:15,560
» Yeah.

2049
01:12:15,560 --> 01:12:16,800
>> For those that are already there, it

2050
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:18,920
definitely would. For those passing by.

2051
01:12:18,920 --> 01:12:20,840
>> Sign, website.

2052
01:12:20,840 --> 01:12:23,280
Out here.

2053
01:12:23,280 --> 01:12:24,800
>> All right. That's it.

2054
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:26,760
>> Yeah, I think that's good. Thank you.

2055
01:12:26,760 --> 01:12:28,360
>> Thank you.

2056
01:12:28,360 --> 01:12:31,360
So, uh the next thing is kind of mine is

2057
01:12:31,360 --> 01:12:33,320
airport sign.

2058
01:12:33,320 --> 01:12:36,360
I thought that since we're uh

2059
01:12:36,360 --> 01:12:38,040
yeah, we've been batting around the idea

2060
01:12:38,040 --> 01:12:40,120
of some kind of entrance sign, monument

2061
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:42,160
sign at the beginning of the

2062
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:43,440
airport.

2063
01:12:43,440 --> 01:12:46,960
Uh so, in order to flush that out and

2064
01:12:46,960 --> 01:12:48,320
come up with

2065
01:12:48,320 --> 01:12:50,440
kind of a a real

2066
01:12:50,440 --> 01:12:53,280
view of a sign, I came up with a concept

2067
01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,360
that seems to be a common concept for

2068
01:12:55,360 --> 01:12:57,560
the for airport signs.

2069
01:12:57,560 --> 01:13:00,040
Uh, you know, the idea here was just to

2070
01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:03,760
use some of the stuff that I've heard at this meeting

2071
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:05,200
uh that has to do with, you know, a

2072
01:13:05,200 --> 01:13:08,800
digital sign and and a a monument sign

2073
01:13:08,800 --> 01:13:10,680
and entrance sign.

2074
01:13:10,680 --> 01:13:13,160
Uh, so in order to

2075
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:14,600
make that work

2076
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:17,400
or actually, you know, put together

2077
01:13:17,400 --> 01:13:18,880
uh something where we could find out how

2078
01:13:18,880 --> 01:13:21,320
much does it cost and how difficult it

2079
01:13:21,320 --> 01:13:23,440
is and you know, that kind of stuff. I

2080
01:13:23,440 --> 01:13:25,560
put together the idea of this B-shaped

2081
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:26,880
sign.

2082
01:13:26,880 --> 01:13:27,960
Uh,

2083
01:13:27,960 --> 01:13:30,720
it's sized according to this distance

2084
01:13:30,720 --> 01:13:33,000
from the highway.

2085
01:13:33,000 --> 01:13:35,800
Uh, there's a sign there now that

2086
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:38,400
the you guys have that's just a vertical

2087
01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:39,760
and it's

2088
01:13:39,760 --> 01:13:42,000
perpendicular to the highway.

2089
01:13:42,000 --> 01:13:44,320
Uh, and and the you know, lettering on

2090
01:13:44,320 --> 01:13:46,880
it is is, you know, is the right size

2091
01:13:46,880 --> 01:13:48,560
for that distance.

2092
01:13:48,560 --> 01:13:51,480
Uh, in order to maximize the

2093
01:13:51,480 --> 01:13:53,880
viewing time on a sign,

2094
01:13:53,880 --> 01:13:56,000
uh it's particularly a digital sign, it

2095
01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,280
had to be tilted into a B-shaped

2096
01:13:58,280 --> 01:13:59,960
arrangement so you get more viewing

2097
01:13:59,960 --> 01:14:01,240
time.

2098
01:14:01,240 --> 01:14:03,280
Uh, you get

2099
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:07,440
this sign proposes a a 6 to 10 6 to 10

2100
01:14:07,440 --> 01:14:09,800
second viewing time, which is more than

2101
01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:12,680
enough for a for messages

2102
01:14:12,680 --> 01:14:14,880
for a single uh you know, message or

2103
01:14:14,880 --> 01:14:17,280
messages. Probably two in that length of

2104
01:14:17,280 --> 01:14:18,600
time.

2105
01:14:18,600 --> 01:14:21,760
Uh, surprising how quick people, you

2106
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:22,600
know,

2107
01:14:22,600 --> 01:14:24,440
if the the letters are big enough, right

2108
01:14:24,440 --> 01:14:26,320
now, okay, you can see it.

2109
01:14:26,320 --> 01:14:30,640
So anyway, uh what I wanted to do is it ended up being about a

2110
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:31,240
uh

2111
01:14:31,240 --> 01:14:34,320
a B-shaped sign about 14 ft

2112
01:14:34,320 --> 01:14:38,000
high and about 13 ft long uh on the on

2113
01:14:38,000 --> 01:14:39,520
the two sides.

2114
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:42,720
And this this proposal basically looks

2115
01:14:42,720 --> 01:14:45,040
at putting a digital sign on the

2116
01:14:45,040 --> 01:14:47,360
southbound lane so people coming in

2117
01:14:47,360 --> 01:14:50,120
would see the sign, the digital sign.

2118
01:14:50,120 --> 01:14:50,800
Uh

2119
01:14:50,800 --> 01:14:53,000
and then also with the digital sign

2120
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,040
would be a uh

2121
01:14:55,040 --> 01:14:58,360
monument sign or a uh billboard sign and

2122
01:14:58,360 --> 01:15:00,040
you know, whatever it is, some kind of

2123
01:15:00,040 --> 01:15:02,280
other thing cuz the the digital sign

2124
01:15:02,280 --> 01:15:05,920
would only be about 3 ft tall and 12 ft

2125
01:15:05,920 --> 01:15:07,040
wide.

2126
01:15:07,040 --> 01:15:08,640
And that's big enough to put on two

2127
01:15:08,640 --> 01:15:12,480
lines two two lines of of characters and

2128
01:15:12,480 --> 01:15:14,560
be able to see them from the road.

2129
01:15:14,560 --> 01:15:17,640
Um the idea is is that

2130
01:15:17,640 --> 01:15:19,160
the other part of the sign would just

2131
01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:20,280
say

2132
01:15:20,280 --> 01:15:23,120
airport and it could be anything from

2133
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:25,120
fixed advertising

2134
01:15:25,120 --> 01:15:27,880
to just an airport sign. I mean, there

2135
01:15:27,880 --> 01:15:29,720
there's a lot of possibilities there and

2136
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:30,680
I don't know

2137
01:15:30,680 --> 01:15:32,960
what the that would be more for for the

2138
01:15:32,960 --> 01:15:34,680
advertising folks or the airport folks

2139
01:15:34,680 --> 01:15:36,640
to decide what should be on. Now, the

2140
01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:39,080
south side of of this V-shaped sign

2141
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,240
would be a fixed sign.

2142
01:15:41,240 --> 01:15:45,080
You know, just a a a sign that said uh

2143
01:15:45,080 --> 01:15:47,240
"Thank you for visiting our airport" or

2144
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:48,560
you know, whatever else you want to put

2145
01:15:48,560 --> 01:15:50,560
on. If you've got the food display

2146
01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:51,480
>> Here's the road.

2147
01:15:51,480 --> 01:15:55,400
>> Yeah, right. This is the road, so this is the

2148
01:15:55,400 --> 01:15:58,160
>> Why would we do a fixed on the one and

2149
01:15:58,160 --> 01:15:59,160
digital on the other road? You could

2150
01:15:59,160 --> 01:15:59,400
just do

2151
01:15:59,400 --> 01:16:00,320
>> Well, it's

2152
01:16:00,320 --> 01:16:02,280
it could be. It absolutely could be.

2153
01:16:02,280 --> 01:16:04,560
This is The question is cost.

2154
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,960
A digital sign such as this uh

2155
01:16:07,960 --> 01:16:14,120
it would good good daytime viewing and good resolutions about 22,000.

2156
01:16:14,120 --> 01:16:16,200
And so, uh

2157
01:16:16,200 --> 01:16:17,800
certainly there could be a digital sign

2158
01:16:17,800 --> 01:16:18,520
on both sides.

2159
01:16:18,520 --> 01:16:19,560
>> I think if we're going to do it, it

2160
01:16:19,560 --> 01:16:21,120
should be digital on both sides to catch

2161
01:16:21,120 --> 01:16:23,440
people coming and going and and it would

2162
01:16:23,440 --> 01:16:26,200
be a better for the advertiser because

2163
01:16:26,200 --> 01:16:27,560
um

2164
01:16:27,560 --> 01:16:28,920
This is so stupid to say. My

2165
01:16:28,920 --> 01:16:30,200
undergraduate degree was in in

2166
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:32,160
advertising. What you What you want to

2167
01:16:32,160 --> 01:16:34,920
do is get them all on 100 show. Um and

2168
01:16:34,920 --> 01:16:37,240
the idea is 7 seconds and no more than

2169
01:16:37,240 --> 01:16:39,520
seven words. That's kind of the standard

2170
01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:40,680
in the phone.

2171
01:16:40,680 --> 01:16:41,800
Um

2172
01:16:41,800 --> 01:16:45,000
And so, if you do digital on both sides,

2173
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,280
you'll get closer to a 100 show, which

2174
01:16:47,280 --> 01:16:49,200
is just everybody who passes that road

2175
01:16:49,200 --> 01:16:51,880
will see it. They'll see it. So, um you

2176
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:53,000
cuz you're doubling your chances for

2177
01:16:53,000 --> 01:16:54,680
that. Plus you increase the the

2178
01:16:54,680 --> 01:16:57,160
marketing avail- marketability of it. I

2179
01:16:57,160 --> 01:16:58,440
mean, I don't know when we're going to

2180
01:16:58,440 --> 01:17:01,840
build this sign, but um

2181
01:17:01,840 --> 01:17:04,120
I definitely think we we should have it.

2182
01:17:04,120 --> 01:17:05,960
I like the V idea. You're right, that's

2183
01:17:05,960 --> 01:17:07,200
the best way to do it cuz drivers will

2184
01:17:07,200 --> 01:17:09,120
have to crane their head to see it

2185
01:17:09,120 --> 01:17:10,640
certain directions.

2186
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:12,880
>> Yeah, you can see it about uh 700 ft

2187
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:15,360
down the road. Uh you know, which gives

2188
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:17,200
you a pretty long viewing curve.

2189
01:17:17,200 --> 01:17:18,000
Yeah.

2190
01:17:18,000 --> 01:17:19,480
>> And

2191
01:17:19,480 --> 01:17:20,160
so

2192
01:17:20,160 --> 01:17:20,600
>> So I

2193
01:17:20,600 --> 01:17:22,280
>> Yeah, we should be thinking bigger about

2194
01:17:22,280 --> 01:17:23,160
that.

2195
01:17:23,160 --> 01:17:25,480
>> Yeah, I think that absolutely. And I

2196
01:17:25,480 --> 01:17:28,200
again I'm not proposing that we do it

2197
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:29,800
exactly exactly what the staff committee

2198
01:17:29,800 --> 01:17:31,760
says. What I was trying to do was find

2199
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:34,120
out, okay, but how much is going to cost

2200
01:17:34,120 --> 01:17:37,680
and and and how do we finance it?

2201
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:40,680
And so the things that that uh

2202
01:17:40,680 --> 01:17:43,280
that stand out on on this

2203
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:45,040
uh report, I think

2204
01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:48,440
is that if you scan down after you look

2205
01:17:48,440 --> 01:17:50,000
at all of the other things, you start

2206
01:17:50,000 --> 01:17:53,040
looking at the financial summary.

2207
01:17:53,040 --> 01:17:55,120
And the financing options

2208
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:57,240
for the sign that I proposed here, which

2209
01:17:57,240 --> 01:17:59,320
digital on one side, if we do it, it'll

2210
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:02,360
be another 20,000 on the other but

2211
01:18:02,360 --> 01:18:05,160
uh our financing option

2212
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:07,760
uh if we have five advertisers paying

2213
01:18:07,760 --> 01:18:10,040
$200 a month

2214
01:18:10,040 --> 01:18:12,200
uh for

2215
01:18:12,200 --> 01:18:14,160
you know, some presentation on the on

2216
01:18:14,160 --> 01:18:16,520
the digital sign we're talking about.

2217
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:18,080
Let alone what you could do on the other

2218
01:18:18,080 --> 01:18:19,280
sign.

2219
01:18:19,280 --> 01:18:20,640
Uh

2220
01:18:20,640 --> 01:18:23,280
I think that that uh the way this works

2221
01:18:23,280 --> 01:18:26,280
out is is that you have a positive cash

2222
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:28,560
flow if you could get five advertisers

2223
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:32,160
to $200 a month at about $2,000 a year

2224
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:34,720
during the financing period.

2225
01:18:34,720 --> 01:18:36,800
And then And the financing period of 5

2226
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:37,920
years,

2227
01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:38,600
uh

2228
01:18:38,600 --> 01:18:41,160
you you know, you'd be making 74 grand a

2229
01:18:41,160 --> 01:18:42,680
year.

2230
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:45,320
Which is quite a bit considering the uh

2231
01:18:45,320 --> 01:18:47,840
sign has a lifespan of at least 12 years

2232
01:18:47,840 --> 01:18:49,800
and and maybe longer.

2233
01:18:49,800 --> 01:18:50,480
Uh

2234
01:18:50,480 --> 01:18:52,760
depends on what you how long the digital

2235
01:18:52,760 --> 01:18:55,240
signs are made to last about that long.

2236
01:18:55,240 --> 01:18:56,720
Uh

2237
01:18:56,720 --> 01:18:59,200
Now, if you go for the cash option,

2238
01:18:59,200 --> 01:19:00,040
uh

2239
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:03,040
and you just charge if you can find

2240
01:19:03,040 --> 01:19:05,160
so find the cash somewhere, you could

2241
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:08,120
pay off the sign in about 3 years.

2242
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:11,840
And uh and then, you know, make

2243
01:19:11,840 --> 01:19:14,440
significant money uh 20 20 grand and

2244
01:19:14,440 --> 01:19:16,280
then, you know, for the whatever it is

2245
01:19:16,280 --> 01:19:18,640
to the sign, make a lot of basically or

2246
01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:20,760
at least enough to pay for everything.

2247
01:19:20,760 --> 01:19:24,120
And these estimates here assume uh

2248
01:19:24,120 --> 01:19:26,320
everything that's involved with the with

2249
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:28,040
the maintenance of the sign, the power

2250
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:31,320
for the sign, uh the upkeep of the sign,

2251
01:19:31,320 --> 01:19:32,600
uh

2252
01:19:32,600 --> 01:19:35,160
it even puts in some money to hire a

2253
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:37,920
professional outfit to program it.

2254
01:19:37,920 --> 01:19:39,720
Although, it it appears to me that's not

2255
01:19:39,720 --> 01:19:41,120
necessary.

2256
01:19:41,120 --> 01:19:43,280
The the web pages that the thing that

2257
01:19:43,280 --> 01:19:45,600
these sign guys have are,

2258
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:47,360
you know, really really good and you you

2259
01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:49,280
can do anything you want. It's It's

2260
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:51,040
actually easier than building a website.

2261
01:19:51,040 --> 01:19:53,560
So, it's it's not something that

2262
01:19:53,560 --> 01:19:54,600
is very

2263
01:19:54,600 --> 01:19:55,960
They're They're tools that are actually

2264
01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:57,920
really good.

2265
01:19:57,920 --> 01:19:59,320
Uh

2266
01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:03,120
Problems with it uh obviously uh have to

2267
01:20:03,120 --> 01:20:06,480
do with uh meeting

2268
01:20:06,480 --> 01:20:07,200
uh

2269
01:20:07,200 --> 01:20:09,120
environmental concerns.

2270
01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:10,280
You know, what would we what would we do

2271
01:20:10,280 --> 01:20:12,560
with the digital sign at night?

2272
01:20:12,560 --> 01:20:15,000
Uh what would we do? Uh what are what

2273
01:20:15,000 --> 01:20:17,480
are the dark sky standards if if those

2274
01:20:17,480 --> 01:20:19,040
apply to us?

2275
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:20,560
Uh

2276
01:20:20,560 --> 01:20:21,520
and

2277
01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,320
other things like wind and, you know,

2278
01:20:23,320 --> 01:20:24,880
considerations like that have to be

2279
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:27,040
engineered for that. Right now, this

2280
01:20:27,040 --> 01:20:30,200
sign is is is planned to have three

2281
01:20:30,200 --> 01:20:32,680
vertical steel posts.

2282
01:20:32,680 --> 01:20:33,280
Uh

2283
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:35,680
and you know, set in concrete

2284
01:20:35,680 --> 01:20:37,440
uh with concrete foundations and then

2285
01:20:37,440 --> 01:20:39,520
have the signs

2286
01:20:39,520 --> 01:20:42,080
uh on the each side of that. That seems

2287
01:20:42,080 --> 01:20:43,800
to be the uh

2288
01:20:43,800 --> 01:20:46,400
least expensive way to build such a sign

2289
01:20:46,400 --> 01:20:48,520
and have it strong enough to you know,

2290
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:50,440
do what it needs to do.

2291
01:20:50,440 --> 01:20:52,360
So, based on

2292
01:20:52,360 --> 01:20:54,080
uh based on that

2293
01:20:54,080 --> 01:20:56,960
those kind of numbers uh

2294
01:20:56,960 --> 01:20:58,880
financing options

2295
01:20:58,880 --> 01:21:01,440
uh there's a couple ways to do it

2296
01:21:01,440 --> 01:21:03,520
that I that I thought about and and one

2297
01:21:03,520 --> 01:21:06,240
way would be to have uh

2298
01:21:06,240 --> 01:21:08,560
our advertising council

2299
01:21:08,560 --> 01:21:11,680
you know, buy into it as a advertising

2300
01:21:11,680 --> 01:21:13,640
feature and finance it as as part of

2301
01:21:13,640 --> 01:21:15,920
their their budget or at least part of

2302
01:21:15,920 --> 01:21:17,600
it out of their budget.

2303
01:21:17,600 --> 01:21:20,680
Another way to do it would be to uh find

2304
01:21:20,680 --> 01:21:22,520
a private company

2305
01:21:22,520 --> 01:21:24,720
uh that would be willing to front the

2306
01:21:24,720 --> 01:21:26,880
money in exchange for profits off the

2307
01:21:26,880 --> 01:21:27,720
sign.

2308
01:21:27,720 --> 01:21:30,000
>> Can Can we hold up for just 1 second?

2309
01:21:30,000 --> 01:21:33,240
Howard, are you still with us?

2310
01:21:33,240 --> 01:21:35,040
>> Yeah, I'm still here.

2311
01:21:35,040 --> 01:21:37,040
>> I I really think this would be something

2312
01:21:37,040 --> 01:21:39,480
to take back to your

2313
01:21:39,480 --> 01:21:41,640
tourism board, right?

2314
01:21:41,640 --> 01:21:42,080
>> Um

2315
01:21:42,080 --> 01:21:44,360
>> at least to start some discussions there

2316
01:21:44,360 --> 01:21:46,760
and see what we can do.

2317
01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:49,320
>> I really think that funding could come

2318
01:21:49,320 --> 01:21:52,000
from the TRCCA fund

2319
01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:53,920
to basically not need to finance it and

2320
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:55,280
just buy it.

2321
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:56,760
But that would probably not occur until

2322
01:21:56,760 --> 01:21:59,160
next year, Bill. So, um I think that

2323
01:21:59,160 --> 01:22:00,800
>> Yeah. Which would sure.

2324
01:22:00,800 --> 01:22:03,160
>> But I could certainly bring that

2325
01:22:03,160 --> 01:22:04,000
>> with them for sure.

2326
01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:05,840
>> for sure, for sure.

2327
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:08,480
Um and also bear in mind that there was

2328
01:22:08,480 --> 01:22:10,440
um beyond this sign, there was a an

2329
01:22:10,440 --> 01:22:12,080
appeal from the Spanish Trail Arena for

2330
01:22:12,080 --> 01:22:13,840
something similar. So, for the

2331
01:22:13,840 --> 01:22:15,560
commission to know that, too, it might

2332
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:17,640
be something possible for both. I don't

2333
01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:19,320
know.

2334
01:22:19,320 --> 01:22:21,960
>> Yeah. Yeah, there I think that there's

2335
01:22:21,960 --> 01:22:23,080
also, you know, like I said, there's

2336
01:22:23,080 --> 01:22:24,960
private funding where

2337
01:22:24,960 --> 01:22:29,360
companies will front for some for build, build board signs or whatever.

2338
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:31,720
There's also, you know, fundraising

2339
01:22:31,720 --> 01:22:34,280
activities that could be done.

2340
01:22:34,280 --> 01:22:35,960
You know,

2341
01:22:35,960 --> 01:22:37,480
>> I wouldn't want to give it over to

2342
01:22:37,480 --> 01:22:38,960
private. I mean,

2343
01:22:38,960 --> 01:22:41,240
we are selling but we don't need

2344
01:22:41,240 --> 01:22:43,600
>> Yeah, so I so I think

2345
01:22:43,600 --> 01:22:46,040
I I get the out

2346
01:22:46,040 --> 01:22:46,920
>> No, it's a great idea.

2347
01:22:46,920 --> 01:22:49,080
>> The idea here is

2348
01:22:49,080 --> 01:22:51,800
just doing some preliminary work. It

2349
01:22:51,800 --> 01:22:54,760
appears like it can be really feasible

2350
01:22:54,760 --> 01:22:58,040
for costing and running space on it for

2351
01:22:58,040 --> 01:22:59,720
it to pay for itself in a reasonable

2352
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:01,880
length of time.

2353
01:23:01,880 --> 01:23:03,400
And if we can just find the money up

2354
01:23:03,400 --> 01:23:05,640
front then it's then obviously it's pure

2355
01:23:05,640 --> 01:23:07,000
profit.

2356
01:23:07,000 --> 01:23:07,680
Or

2357
01:23:07,680 --> 01:23:10,120
at least more profit on it.

2358
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:16,680
So I thought there'd be the next thing I would like to do if would be go to the

2359
01:23:16,680 --> 01:23:20,520
advertising council and to the county

2360
01:23:20,520 --> 01:23:22,520
and just start talking.

2361
01:23:22,520 --> 01:23:24,200
And you know, just start saying, "Okay,

2362
01:23:24,200 --> 01:23:26,360
we want to do a sign I think,

2363
01:23:26,360 --> 01:23:28,440
you know, here's kind of what the basics

2364
01:23:28,440 --> 01:23:30,920
of it are. It's about this big and it's

2365
01:23:30,920 --> 01:23:32,600
going to have digital sign maybe on both

2366
01:23:32,600 --> 01:23:34,600
sides. You know, and it's going to cost

2367
01:23:34,600 --> 01:23:36,360
50

2368
01:23:36,360 --> 01:23:40,080
54,000 dollars, some number like that.

2369
01:23:40,080 --> 01:23:42,640
If we put digital sign on both sides

2370
01:23:42,640 --> 01:23:45,560
and just start going easy to round so

2371
01:23:45,560 --> 01:23:52,480
that with the target of having a budgetary number in place for next

2372
01:23:52,480 --> 01:23:53,520
year.

2373
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:56,320
Whoever's going to budget for it.

2374
01:23:56,320 --> 01:23:58,680
Or even having some ideas along those

2375
01:23:58,680 --> 01:23:59,800
lines.

2376
01:23:59,800 --> 01:24:02,640
But I think it's important to do this

2377
01:24:02,640 --> 01:24:04,520
for a number of reasons. One of them, I

2378
01:24:04,520 --> 01:24:06,360
think the airport image.

2379
01:24:06,360 --> 01:24:09,320
Right now we don't don't really have

2380
01:24:09,320 --> 01:24:12,000
any image. I think the entrance way, you

2381
01:24:12,000 --> 01:24:14,840
know, the new pavement will add greatly.

2382
01:24:14,840 --> 01:24:16,840
But I also think we need to have

2383
01:24:16,840 --> 01:24:19,560
something that is really stands out. And

2384
01:24:19,560 --> 01:24:22,080
I think it needs to not be tacky or

2385
01:24:22,080 --> 01:24:24,160
whatever. I think so. I agree. It needs

2386
01:24:24,160 --> 01:24:25,600
to It needs to be looked like a

2387
01:24:25,600 --> 01:24:27,320
permanent kind of a thing, you know,

2388
01:24:27,320 --> 01:24:28,640
like it's a

2389
01:24:28,640 --> 01:24:29,480
uh

2390
01:24:29,480 --> 01:24:32,440
real ongoing cuz all these image things

2391
01:24:32,440 --> 01:24:34,600
is what people take away. It's what they

2392
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:36,520
think about. Cuz when they think about,

2393
01:24:36,520 --> 01:24:38,480
"Oh, that's a real airport and they got

2394
01:24:38,480 --> 01:24:39,840
they've got, you know, all these

2395
01:24:39,840 --> 01:24:41,600
services there. They've got airlines.

2396
01:24:41,600 --> 01:24:43,840
They've got uh

2397
01:24:43,840 --> 01:24:46,000
you know, all kinds of flight scene

2398
01:24:46,000 --> 01:24:47,520
things going on. Whatever all those

2399
01:24:47,520 --> 01:24:49,520
things are, uh

2400
01:24:49,520 --> 01:24:51,960
people will then remember it and check

2401
01:24:51,960 --> 01:24:54,440
into it. You know, and actually involve

2402
01:24:54,440 --> 01:24:55,640
themselves more in the airport. The

2403
01:24:55,640 --> 01:24:57,640
other thing I believe it will do is

2404
01:24:57,640 --> 01:24:58,960
attract

2405
01:24:58,960 --> 01:25:00,200
uh more

2406
01:25:00,200 --> 01:25:01,960
uh pilots. A lot of pilots drive by.

2407
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:03,120
They don't know if it's private or not.

2408
01:25:03,120 --> 01:25:06,320
So, they I think that that becomes a a

2409
01:25:06,320 --> 01:25:08,440
reasonable kind of a thing.

2410
01:25:08,440 --> 01:25:09,560
They're going to let alone the

2411
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:13,520
advertising uh you know, possibilities.

2412
01:25:13,520 --> 01:25:14,680
>> Yeah, I don't think anybody here needs

2413
01:25:14,680 --> 01:25:17,120
any convincing. We'll have a sign up. We

2414
01:25:17,120 --> 01:25:18,600
need to get sign.

2415
01:25:18,600 --> 01:25:19,560
Um

2416
01:25:19,560 --> 01:25:20,960
I'd love to have a single pole so I'd

2417
01:25:20,960 --> 01:25:22,960
love to see it. Concrete columns would

2418
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:23,600
be

2419
01:25:23,600 --> 01:25:24,240
um

2420
01:25:24,240 --> 01:25:25,560
>> Well, they they can have a they can have

2421
01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:27,280
a facade on them. I mean, I'm not saying

2422
01:25:27,280 --> 01:25:28,680
what the design should be.

2423
01:25:28,680 --> 01:25:29,000
>> Right.

2424
01:25:29,000 --> 01:25:31,400
>> I think that that The idea is that I

2425
01:25:31,400 --> 01:25:33,440
think

2426
01:25:33,440 --> 01:25:35,600
with you guys' approval, I think what

2427
01:25:35,600 --> 01:25:37,200
I'd like to do is take this to a

2428
01:25:37,200 --> 01:25:39,600
professional sign company.

2429
01:25:39,600 --> 01:25:41,120
You know, somebody that somebody could

2430
01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:42,840
recommend and say, "Okay, here's the

2431
01:25:42,840 --> 01:25:45,000
concept. What is it really going to cost

2432
01:25:45,000 --> 01:25:46,040
to build this and what are your

2433
01:25:46,040 --> 01:25:48,360
recommendations?" Maybe

2434
01:25:48,360 --> 01:25:50,800
>> It'd be good to bring back like some

2435
01:25:50,800 --> 01:25:52,240
mock-ups or something.

2436
01:25:52,240 --> 01:25:53,720
>> yeah. I'd like to do some I'm sure do

2437
01:25:53,720 --> 01:25:55,040
some real artwork and

2438
01:25:55,040 --> 01:25:58,600
>> some video of what it would look like.

2439
01:25:58,600 --> 01:26:00,040
>> I mean, Steve didn't like my last

2440
01:26:00,040 --> 01:26:00,560
design.

2441
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:04,000
>> I thought it was a little busy is all. I

2442
01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:05,560
thought it was tacky. But, you know,

2443
01:26:05,560 --> 01:26:06,240
about

2444
01:26:06,240 --> 01:26:08,880
>> No, but I I think a professional would

2445
01:26:08,880 --> 01:26:10,400
do good on it. You know, something. And

2446
01:26:10,400 --> 01:26:11,360
so, if

2447
01:26:11,360 --> 01:26:16,160
I'm I'm hoping that we have some maybe some of you guys know of somebody

2448
01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:18,880
uh that has put signs up in town and

2449
01:26:18,880 --> 01:26:20,280
they're really happy with the signs

2450
01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:22,200
they've had made.

2451
01:26:22,200 --> 01:26:23,920
>> Yellowman Elementary School

2452
01:26:23,920 --> 01:26:26,240
just put a new sign up.

2453
01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:27,160
I know where they're at. They're under

2454
01:26:27,160 --> 01:26:29,200
construction right now.

2455
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:32,720
>> Yeah. So, I would like to to uh

2456
01:26:32,720 --> 01:26:34,480
you know, kind of give a basic

2457
01:26:34,480 --> 01:26:36,080
engineering

2458
01:26:36,080 --> 01:26:38,520
paper to somebody that recommends and

2459
01:26:38,520 --> 01:26:40,040
say, "What would it take to do this?"

2460
01:26:40,040 --> 01:26:41,880
Right. Does that Does that make sense to

2461
01:26:41,880 --> 01:26:42,080
you?

2462
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:42,560
>> Yeah.

2463
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:44,360
>> I'm going to get it get it get it

2464
01:26:44,360 --> 01:26:45,000
>> What? Talk to

2465
01:26:45,000 --> 01:26:46,360
>> Talk to him a little bit about that.

2466
01:26:46,360 --> 01:26:47,640
>> Okay.

2467
01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:49,960
So, uh that's really all I had. I I was

2468
01:26:49,960 --> 01:26:56,080
really surprised, to sum it up, that it does look financially

2469
01:26:56,080 --> 01:26:58,760
uh pretty good for you.

2470
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:00,560
know, I would I would probably

2471
01:27:00,560 --> 01:27:01,840
you know, if I was in that business, I'd

2472
01:27:01,840 --> 01:27:05,470
probably go build and sell.

2473
01:27:05,480 --> 01:27:06,480
But anyway,

2474
01:27:06,480 --> 01:27:08,600
thank you.

2475
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:11,070
>> Thank you.

2476
01:27:11,080 --> 01:27:12,240
» All right.

2477
01:27:12,240 --> 01:27:13,600
Um

2478
01:27:13,600 --> 01:27:16,160
New leases and hangar construction.

2479
01:27:16,160 --> 01:27:18,760
>> Yeah. I've got two leases uh that are

2480
01:27:18,760 --> 01:27:21,200
out with someone right now. Um they're

2481
01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:22,960
reviewing them. I was hoping I'd have

2482
01:27:22,960 --> 01:27:24,640
them to come back. It's Laurel Padgett.

2483
01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:27,040
She met with us last week. She wants to

2484
01:27:27,040 --> 01:27:29,200
go forward with both of her hangar

2485
01:27:29,200 --> 01:27:30,440
proposals.

2486
01:27:30,440 --> 01:27:32,240
So, she's looking over the lease right

2487
01:27:32,240 --> 01:27:35,040
now. Uh but I I didn't get it back from

2488
01:27:35,040 --> 01:27:37,560
her in time for this meeting. Um but

2489
01:27:37,560 --> 01:27:39,640
we've at least got those two. And she

2490
01:27:39,640 --> 01:27:41,760
might want to move faster, so we may

2491
01:27:41,760 --> 01:27:45,120
have to call a

2492
01:27:45,120 --> 01:27:46,440
mid-month

2493
01:27:46,440 --> 01:27:47,840
forum

2494
01:27:47,840 --> 01:27:49,880
uh to get it moving once she is done

2495
01:27:49,880 --> 01:27:51,400
with these paperwork cuz I don't want to

2496
01:27:51,400 --> 01:27:53,000
slow anybody down. I want to keep it

2497
01:27:53,000 --> 01:27:53,560
going.

2498
01:27:53,560 --> 01:27:54,440
>> Let's do that.

2499
01:27:54,440 --> 01:27:58,350
>> Yeah.

2500
01:27:58,360 --> 01:28:01,240
» So, if the I suppose the the question I

2501
01:28:01,240 --> 01:28:04,080
had after this meeting and all that is

2502
01:28:04,080 --> 01:28:06,760
uh is the

2503
01:28:06,760 --> 01:28:09,000
is our current lease template, if you

2504
01:28:09,000 --> 01:28:11,640
will, uh lawyer approved and we all

2505
01:28:11,640 --> 01:28:13,160
happy with

2506
01:28:13,160 --> 01:28:14,080
what we have.

2507
01:28:14,080 --> 01:28:16,920
>> It's been approved by Steven Stocks.

2508
01:28:16,920 --> 01:28:18,800
Including uh,

2509
01:28:18,800 --> 01:28:20,680
the new addition that I put in for the

2510
01:28:20,680 --> 01:28:22,000
one time

2511
01:28:22,000 --> 01:28:25,080
uh, linear footage fee. So, it's been

2512
01:28:25,080 --> 01:28:26,840
attorney approved.

2513
01:28:26,840 --> 01:28:28,680
Uh,

2514
01:28:28,680 --> 01:28:30,320
I think we need to have a discussion

2515
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:33,120
about different types of leases.

2516
01:28:33,120 --> 01:28:35,320
We need to add that.

2517
01:28:35,320 --> 01:28:36,720
I'll put that on the agenda and have

2518
01:28:36,720 --> 01:28:38,040
something ready for it.

2519
01:28:38,040 --> 01:28:41,840
>> So, so future then, new types of leases?

2520
01:28:41,840 --> 01:28:43,080
>> Well, you've got different types of

2521
01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:44,880
operators at the airport. And I would

2522
01:28:44,880 --> 01:28:46,560
like to have similar operators on

2523
01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:48,600
exactly the same lease, not hold them to

2524
01:28:48,600 --> 01:28:50,320
different leases. Personally used

2525
01:28:50,320 --> 01:28:52,400
hangars should all be on the same lease.

2526
01:28:52,400 --> 01:28:54,480
Um, FBO should have a different type of

2527
01:28:54,480 --> 01:28:55,360
lease.

2528
01:28:55,360 --> 01:28:56,200
>> Okay.

2529
01:28:56,200 --> 01:28:59,360
And then, uh, so items nine and 10,

2530
01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:01,040
uh, nine and 10 will just continue as

2531
01:29:01,040 --> 01:29:02,880
discussion items.

2532
01:29:02,880 --> 01:29:04,880
I'd like to separate marketing and web

2533
01:29:04,880 --> 01:29:06,760
design into a

2534
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:08,320
item 11 or whatever.

2535
01:29:08,320 --> 01:29:09,040
>> Yeah.

2536
01:29:09,040 --> 01:29:10,080
>> So, it's a different subject.

2537
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:11,320
>> You guys got a part.

2538
01:29:11,320 --> 01:29:13,040
>> Uh, and then,

2539
01:29:13,040 --> 01:29:16,910
any other future considerations?

2540
01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:20,960
We can get those on to Sarah when you you know, when you get them in

2541
01:29:20,960 --> 01:29:22,560
5 days before the meeting, that works

2542
01:29:22,560 --> 01:29:25,390
really well.

2543
01:29:25,400 --> 01:29:27,920
Uh, close sessions, anything necessary

2544
01:29:27,920 --> 01:29:30,710
there?

2545
01:29:30,720 --> 01:29:32,840
All right.

2546
01:29:32,840 --> 01:29:34,360
So,

2547
01:29:34,360 --> 01:29:37,760
5:27, we're adjourned.

2548
01:29:37,760 --> 01:29:40,040
We'll meet back here Monday night.

2549
01:29:40,040 --> 01:29:41,280
>> Okay.

2550
01:29:41,280 --> 01:29:45,030
>> The meeting was very much

2551
01:29:45,040 --> 01:31:57,590
» Thank you.

2552
01:31:57,600 --> 01:31:59,680
» Mhm.