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>> I would like to call this workshop

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meeting for the Grand County Commission

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216 to order. We have an attendance

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Commissioner Martinez, Commissioner

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McGann, Commissioner

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>> Curry, Commissioner Winfield and myself

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Commissioner McManus along with our

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administrator Mark Tyner, our

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deputy administrator

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uh Quinn Hall and I think that is all

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for right now for this meeting.

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So we our first agenda on the workshop

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with open up overview and updates and

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that was going to be with our attorney

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Steven Stocks but he's in court so we

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are going to our staff to feature one.

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So that was task number one off and then

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to number two. Number two is the

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policies and procedures of the governing

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body

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and when we met last meeting two weeks

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ago, we were going through this. We got

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to page 11.

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before we put out any kind of

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information that we would

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give the commission

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prior the information prior to

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publishing. So that was our last comment

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on that top one. So if we move to C,

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paragraph one, it if you have anything

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just stop me. I don't have see any

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comments on the side.

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Paragraph two,

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this is a comment. General reports

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should encompass all meetings that

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commission members attend as

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representatives of the organization.

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They should include a description of the

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meeting's content and are required as a

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component of the commission's

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responsibilities.

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>> I think that's a little bit

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overkill.

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each one of those meetings has minutes,

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force all commissioners to

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write a brief about the meetings that

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they've been in.

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>> Right. And that's the difference.

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telling everything that happened, and I

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was told that my reports were way too

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long and not needed, right? So, this is

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it's it's it's silly that someone's

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like, "Oh, no, we want now all that

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information." Right? I think that that's

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that that that is it is overburdensome

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to to to require us to go ahead and take

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all of our meeting notes, take all of

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our notes, and put them in inside of uh

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inside inside of a report. Um I don't mind the written

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report, but I I do think that it should

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be the commissioner's

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prerogative on how much they they

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include inside of that report right

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there. Um some commissioners go to quite

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a few more meetings than other

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commissioners. I know that I spent I I

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get finished until 12:30 when I went

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through my my commission report. Um and

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there's a requirement for me to do more

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than that or less than that, right? It's

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not fair when the the workload might not

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always be equally shared amongst all

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>> Mary, I'm wondering if we could simplify

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commissioners should mention every uh

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meeting that they've attended as a

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representative.

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either give a brief description or a

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link to the minutes.

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simple. I I I agree with you. I don't

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want things really long and people won't

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read them if they're long.

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attend meetings that are on my

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to-do list, you know?

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miss what I mean I I just did mine, too.

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report today and I got to the very end

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last four meetings that I've had cuz I

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recommended, like if we just have a

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recommended, um so if you say general

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reports,

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they should encompass all the meetings

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that commission members attend as

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representatives of the organization and

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description of the meetings.

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recommended, we recommend a description

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of the meeting's content

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and other pertinent information.

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it's a recommended. So, the new new

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stuff in there and then it still has the

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piece on here that commission members

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can request that the chair place on the

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agenda a separate item if there's any

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reports that need, you know, some more

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detailed discussion. And we always do

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that anyways

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for people to elaborate on their reports

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if they would like to.

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districts in there, but it then

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districts are included in six. So, is

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that clear enough?

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>> I think it's because of your any meeting

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should encompass all meetings that the

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commission members attend.

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mention uh district meetings in the in

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that paragraph, but then districts are

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pointed out in number six. So, I was

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are encouraged to attend any advisory

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purposes shall notify the commission.

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number six, if that's where districts

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detail, I also think any uh um any

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meeting that commission members fail to

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attend or denied attending as well

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should be inside of it.

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» Well, no, I mean, if we're going to go

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to to we're going to nitpick,

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commissioner.

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as itself, not talking to you. I'm just

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saying like if we want to get down to

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the level of detail like I want that,

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you know, to know what you, you know,

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who you met with and who you talked

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with, I think that also should be fair

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that we talk about um you know, what

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meetings did you deny that you that you

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went to or what meetings did you not

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attend that you that you were scheduled

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and make something very simple there,

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Mel. I'm not

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to have at it.

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door for Brian to uh talk for an hour at

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any meeting, so

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just if we just don't look at the side

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comment that all

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that they shall regularly report

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to the commission

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verbally or in writing the gen in the

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general report section of the agenda or

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as necessary

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» All right. So we're not so comment on

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the side is just crossing it off.

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>> That's what that's what I was talking

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about number four. I'm sorry I thought

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we left number three.

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I'm so apologize

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I thought we left I thought we came to a

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conclusion that in in number four in

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number four we say advisory boards

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commission or commission

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committee meetings. We didn't put

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district meetings cuz we are also a

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number six.

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number six enough? If it's enough then

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let's not worry about it otherwise just

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put the word district after

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committee meetings or put

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>> I think six covers it.

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>> Okay. So the five is just about county

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I was I was which is a different kind

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number six.

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that here this all dressers meeting

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go ahead Mike.

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reappointment. I don't know the wording

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get someone else there. I don't know the

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wording is correct on that or how how

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that's being said right there.

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>> When you shall arrange a reappointment

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>> to that same So if they cannot have

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regular attendance

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>> Yeah, if you can't regularly

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you would reappoint

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>> them the board up and let someone else

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do it.

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>> But if you just can't make it out a

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single then you would ask another

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commissioner

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>> Yep.

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>> And you may ask another commissioner to

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attend in their place. There's a comment

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here that says, I think it is important

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to address the situation where a

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substitute commissioner may be allowed

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and not allowed to cast a vote in that

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particular SSD or committee. I don't

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think that you get to vote. I mean so

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we're only I mean I'm only voting

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members on my SSDs.

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>> Special service district

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>> Yeah, my other boards that I'm on I'm

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not a

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>> I'm on the liaison.

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>> I'm liaison. I vote on the sand flat

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stewardship.

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That's different as well.

312
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>> I think what this pertains to like

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Mike's on the one the transportation SSD

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and occasionally I fill in.

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Do I have the authority to vote when I

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fill in or do I just abstain and I'm

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sitting there as

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>> I would think you would vote.

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>> Well, half the time he goes they're

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needed for

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>> I vote Yeah, I vote we saw it that

322
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>> There's a

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>> There by law say

324
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>> That's a good question.

325
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>> I would say it goes that in fall

326
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>> Commission member it's it's there by law

327
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say commission member. They don't say

328
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Mike.

329
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>> Yeah.

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>> So

331
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>> Or the liaison.

332
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>> Yeah, so that would lead you to think

333
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that you could vote.

334
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>> You can vote.

335
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>> So [clears throat] there is a training

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that I'm going to on June 23rd with

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LaGrande Bitters on SSD. That might be a

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good question for him. Right there is

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how you know it

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on that SSD board can someone basically

341
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fill in for you or is that or is that is

342
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that cuz that board does have

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autonomy, right? I think that you want

344
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to make sure that you're still

345
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respecting that autonomy of that board

346
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right there. And having someone fill in

347
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for you might kind of break that might

348
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break that. I mean, I think of it almost

349
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like a corporate veil.

350
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>> Well, we might not even know what's

351
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going on, you know, to vote. Um, I think

352
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that's great. That's next Tuesday. I

353
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won't be there. So, will you make sure

354
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to ask that and we can follow and then

355
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we can

356
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follow up with this when we do take it

357
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if if it's something we need to address.

358
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>> I don't know [laughter] that.

359
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It's I don't know if we need to put this

360
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It just came up. I apologize for not

361
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thinking of it. It is a question on the

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side about it. Um

363
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>> It'd be good to know either which way.

364
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>> Yeah. I think we'll default to that

365
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training for SSDs or SSDs and let us

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know.

367
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Uh

368
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>> On the SSDs, I found out and I don't

369
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know if it's important to put in here.

370
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Uh

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it's important that we as uh

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on special service districts, we cannot

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act as chair or vice chair.

374
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That's what I was told by the auditor.

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I was chair of a special service

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district for a couple years before I was

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told that

378
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>> You should We ask that Is anybody else

379
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going to that meeting next up?

380
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>> I'm going to see where I'm at. I was you

381
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know, I have it on my schedule, but

382
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>> That'd be good to ask too cuz I mean,

383
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I'm on some SSDs that we have county

384
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council people that are vice chairs.

385
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>> County council or city city council

386
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>> City council can't because it's not a

387
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Grand County special service district.

388
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That's what makes it different. If it's

389
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a Grand County special service district,

390
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then we can't be chair or vice chair.

391
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But this but usually what ends up is

392
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like on our count on our on our auditor

393
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told us it was fine.

394
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Then our

395
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it usually ends up being the

396
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city commissioner that's the chair.

397
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Yeah.

398
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Cuz they're the most consistent and they

399
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last longer.

400
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And

401
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So I don't know if there's it's

402
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important to say I should

403
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information. I don't know if we want to

404
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put it in there cuz I accidentally did

405
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it. I had no

406
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>> I don't know if it goes in our bylaws

407
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but it would be good because it should

408
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really be in their bylaws.

409
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It should really be in SSD's bylaws but

410
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it I don't know that it always is.

411
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>> I have to check to see if it is in ours.

412
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I don't I don't remember.

413
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>> Cuz we kind of think we just redid ours.

414
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>> But but I just remembered that

415
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I had served as chair for a couple three

416
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years and then the auditor said, "Oh, this is

417
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not good idea."

418
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>> Okay.

419
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>> [laughter]

420
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>> We're going to

421
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>> Oh, good. I was so glad to get rid of

422
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that.

423
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>> We're going to look at our SSD's bylaws

424
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and see. I don't know that we'll add it

425
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in this but it's good to have. Okay.

426
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Now D, duties of the chair.

427
00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:31,480
>> That all looks good. It's just cleaning

428
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it up.

429
00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,040
>> Yeah, it looks good to me. I didn't have

430
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any questions.

431
00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:41,320
I wonder if we could

432
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combine eight and nine.

433
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Seems redundant.

434
00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:47,160
>> Roll call at the chair's discretion. The

435
00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:49,040
chair may require a roll call vote but

436
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as long as expenditure funds.

437
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Motions may be determined by voice vote,

438
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show of hands, or at the request of any

439
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commissioner by roll call.

440
00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:02,600
>> I was in an in an open meeting training

441
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at CIB last week

442
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where roll call vote on expenditures is

443
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mandatory per OMA.

444
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Just bringing that back.

445
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>> We used to always do it

446
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>> [clears throat]

447
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>> for bills.

448
00:15:17,160 --> 00:15:20,760
>> This says may so I don't know if Stephen

449
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would want to weigh in on that. That's a

450
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question for him, but in our old my

451
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training for CIB

452
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state [clears throat] law is mandatory

453
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or the roll call vote and it was

454
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questioned by several other

455
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commissioners, not just myself in that

456
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training.

457
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>> Because they weren't doing it either.

458
00:15:37,680 --> 00:15:39,920
>> But we were for years.

459
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That was

460
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We would [clears throat] always do roll

461
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call vote on when we voted on the uh

462
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bills.

463
00:15:45,560 --> 00:15:46,640
>> Yeah, I don't know.

464
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>> I don't remember that.

465
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>> Any hard feelings.

466
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>> So then we take bills off of the consent

467
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agenda then. We would have to take bills

468
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off.

469
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>> We could take I mean we might want to if

470
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cuz it

471
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take uh bills off consent agenda and

472
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then have roll call vote.

473
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>> And then anytime we purchase or buy

474
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anything

475
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>> Anything that has a fiscal impact would

476
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be a roll call vote.

477
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>> Okay.

478
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>> That was what my training said and

479
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multiple in the room commissioners said,

480
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"We're not doing that." And I said,

481
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"We're not

482
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>> or

483
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with in budget bill or out of budget or

484
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Would that mean that every time like we

485
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couldn't put consent?

486
00:16:24,880 --> 00:16:26,000
>> We're going to ask Stephen. We're going

487
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to have to find out.

488
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>> Yeah.

489
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>> Yep.

490
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>> We're going to ask him if he could get

491
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roll call.

492
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>> I'll send him an email or somebody will

493
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so that we'd be doing roll call.

494
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>> Okay.

495
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So I don't think that we should combine

496
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eight and nine, but we should clarify

497
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roll call votes.

498
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» And so 10

499
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11

500
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Oops.

501
00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,480
All right.

502
00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,600
On number 12, I just had a question.

503
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Uh

504
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cuz I looked in

505
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I don't think in uh Robert's Rules that

506
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chairs are

507
00:17:04,480 --> 00:17:07,400
prohibited from making

508
00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:10,120
motions or seconding it.

509
00:17:10,120 --> 00:17:12,319
Am I correct?

510
00:17:12,319 --> 00:17:13,520
>> You're correct, ma'am.

511
00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:15,920
>> So I'm wondering why we have that in our

512
00:17:15,920 --> 00:17:18,600
bylaws. I'm just wondering why cuz

513
00:17:18,600 --> 00:17:21,959
usually you don't need to but I mean

514
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if you want to have the discussion

515
00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:26,439
sometimes

516
00:17:26,439 --> 00:17:27,560
I don't know.

517
00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,800
I just always wondered why we had that.

518
00:17:29,800 --> 00:17:31,080
>> did it this year.

519
00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:33,200
Kevin Walker did it last year. I just

520
00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,280
went based off of that so

521
00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:37,480
>> We it's always been the rule in ours but

522
00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:40,200
I've always had questioned why.

523
00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:42,560
are we making our stricter than

524
00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:45,520
Robert's Rules? I don't know. I would

525
00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:46,240
take it out.

526
00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:47,280
>> I just

527
00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:50,400
>> It's easier in the meetings but like one

528
00:17:50,400 --> 00:17:56,480
meeting we only had a quorum.

529
00:17:56,480 --> 00:17:57,920
I can't remember how it worked and it

530
00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,360
was really awkward that the chair

531
00:17:59,360 --> 00:18:02,200
couldn't make a motion or second.

532
00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:05,000
We only had four people.

533
00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,640
And it made the meeting very awkward. So

534
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I just always wondered why we did it.

535
00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:16,030
>> I'll add that to my email to Stephen.

536
00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:17,560
» Yeah, looking in Robert's Rules right

537
00:18:17,560 --> 00:18:19,920
here, it's a

538
00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,920
it's it's more of a

539
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dealing with large bodies or small

540
00:18:25,560 --> 00:18:29,360
bodies. So in a large body, it's it's

541
00:18:29,360 --> 00:18:31,560
not recommended that the chair make

542
00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:34,400
motions but in a small body

543
00:18:34,400 --> 00:18:35,080
it

544
00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,440
they use the word should. Right? So it

545
00:18:37,440 --> 00:18:38,920
should not. So it's

546
00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,240
not a not a must not or will not. It's a

547
00:18:41,240 --> 00:18:42,920
should not. What about if we just change

548
00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:45,160
it to should?

549
00:18:45,160 --> 00:18:48,800
>> Okay. Okay. So the chair should not and

550
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that way if the chair wants to

551
00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:56,150
>> Chair wants to break it they can do it.

552
00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:56,640
I mean

553
00:18:56,640 --> 00:18:59,400
>> It can get kind of awkward sometimes. It

554
00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:01,280
I can't remember why it did that one

555
00:19:01,280 --> 00:19:04,270
time.

556
00:19:04,280 --> 00:19:06,000
» It's like well which one of the two of

557
00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,640
us are going to yeah. I I agree it's it

558
00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:09,720
definitely is something that could be

559
00:19:09,720 --> 00:19:10,000
changed.

560
00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:11,000
>> Okay.

561
00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:12,440
Moving on.

562
00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:14,760
13.

563
00:19:14,760 --> 00:19:16,880
So, this is something that I added here

564
00:19:16,880 --> 00:19:18,000
and it's a commission priority

565
00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:19,800
statement. So,

566
00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:21,360
working with the vice chair and the

567
00:19:21,360 --> 00:19:23,080
chair shall produce and maintain a

568
00:19:23,080 --> 00:19:25,720
rolling commission priority statement.

569
00:19:25,720 --> 00:19:27,000
And so, I'm going to roll this out after

570
00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,200
we approve the I have mine ready and

571
00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:31,360
I'll roll it out after we approve these

572
00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:33,120
policies and procedures, but the

573
00:19:33,120 --> 00:19:35,440
priority statement is a plain language

574
00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,360
articulation of the majority's governing

575
00:19:37,360 --> 00:19:38,880
philosophy and the commission's current

576
00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:40,520
priorities.

577
00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,800
And updated quarterly. I don't know if

578
00:19:42,800 --> 00:19:44,360
that's something that's

579
00:19:44,360 --> 00:19:44,880
>> important.

580
00:19:44,880 --> 00:19:45,480
>> Don't you?

581
00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:47,360
>> Yeah, the priority statement is a

582
00:19:47,360 --> 00:19:49,800
working governance document, not an

583
00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,200
ordinance or resolution. Does not

584
00:19:51,200 --> 00:19:52,440
require a vote of the membership to

585
00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:54,160
adopt or update.

586
00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:56,240
And then it will be publicly accessible

587
00:19:56,240 --> 00:19:58,040
on county websites.

588
00:19:58,040 --> 00:20:00,840
It's connected to the long-range plan,

589
00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:02,360
so it's based on the general plan that

590
00:20:02,360 --> 00:20:04,600
we have currently in place.

591
00:20:04,600 --> 00:20:06,640
It's limited to no more than 10 active

592
00:20:06,640 --> 00:20:08,400
priorities at a time.

593
00:20:08,400 --> 00:20:10,520
And it's

594
00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:12,640
communicated to all of our

595
00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,360
boards and staff.

596
00:20:15,360 --> 00:20:17,240
>> Commissions and committees.

597
00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:18,600
>> And so, it shall serve as a primary

598
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:19,840
reference for the administrator in

599
00:20:19,840 --> 00:20:21,000
aligning staff resources and

600
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,600
departmental work with plans for the

601
00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,400
commission direction.

602
00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,160
I'm going to take out the quarterly

603
00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:27,920
>> Yeah, that would be every six meeting

604
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,280
after every six meeting.

605
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,760
>> I think it's a something to base your

606
00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:32,920
you know, if it doesn't fit in the plan,

607
00:20:32,920 --> 00:20:34,880
then maybe you don't do it, but

608
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:36,720
it's to create a baseline so that we

609
00:20:36,720 --> 00:20:38,320
have future

610
00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:39,080
so that maybe [clears throat] we can

611
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,000
have some continuity through the future.

612
00:20:41,000 --> 00:20:42,840
So, if I have 10 priorities and then the

613
00:20:42,840 --> 00:20:44,760
next chair can go through those

614
00:20:44,760 --> 00:20:46,880
priorities and either move them around,

615
00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,360
maybe take out some, add some, but to

616
00:20:48,360 --> 00:20:51,080
continue some continuity of the plan for

617
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:53,120
the county is my thoughts on that.

618
00:20:53,120 --> 00:20:53,880
>> Mhm.

619
00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:55,800
And is was that the intent kind of words

620
00:20:55,800 --> 00:20:57,720
maintain a rolling?

621
00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:58,800
>> Maintain a rolling.

622
00:20:58,800 --> 00:21:00,080
>> Yeah, I just wanted to make sure that

623
00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:01,440
that's that's what you were

624
00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:03,480
thinking of with that so that that

625
00:21:03,480 --> 00:21:06,000
you try to continue to work.

626
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,720
>> Yeah. yeah.

627
00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,680
Okay. So, the commission administrator,

628
00:21:11,680 --> 00:21:17,830
so it's your mark's job.

629
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:22,360
So, the comment is that, let's see.

630
00:21:22,360 --> 00:21:24,320
The highlighted says the allocation of

631
00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,200
staff time, budget, and organizational

632
00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,840
resources constitutes a policy function.

633
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:30,560
The administrator shall align resource

634
00:21:30,560 --> 00:21:32,400
allocation with the commission's adopted

635
00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:33,960
objectives and the chair's current

636
00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,000
commission priority statement. So, this

637
00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:38,600
goes back to number 13.

638
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,680
They and shall not direct staff

639
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:42,720
resources toward activities that

640
00:21:42,720 --> 00:21:44,200
contradict the commission's adopted

641
00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,360
direction. The administrator shall

642
00:21:46,360 --> 00:21:48,000
coordinate commissioner engagement with

643
00:21:48,000 --> 00:21:49,880
staff to protect staff, maintain

644
00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:51,400
accountability, and ensure alignment

645
00:21:51,400 --> 00:21:53,680
with adopted policy. And the comment

646
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:55,000
says we're going to have to work on

647
00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:56,480
this. I think it's a positive thing to

648
00:21:56,480 --> 00:21:58,640
have an annual direction. However, the

649
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:00,760
reality is that we will occasionally

650
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,440
have to deviate from these priorities to

651
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,120
handle important situations as they

652
00:22:04,120 --> 00:22:07,880
arise. I would modify the wording very much to acknowledge it. And I

653
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:09,440
agree, you're not going to every single

654
00:22:09,440 --> 00:22:10,880
thing we that comes before the

655
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:12,400
commission isn't going to fit in those

656
00:22:12,400 --> 00:22:14,000
10 cuz you're going to have stuff that

657
00:22:14,000 --> 00:22:16,280
arises, but I think that if when you're

658
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:18,560
bringing on like a new um

659
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:19,760
So, let's see. I don't know how we would

660
00:22:19,760 --> 00:22:22,200
change the wording to acknowledge this.

661
00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:23,600
Anybody have any comments?

662
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:27,520
>> Just something along the lines of um

663
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:28,840
Just leave it open for [clears throat]

664
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,120
emergency.

665
00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:32,560
Or for

666
00:22:32,560 --> 00:22:34,720
imminent

667
00:22:34,720 --> 00:22:37,000
policy issues that arise. I mean,

668
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:37,560
something

669
00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:39,520
>> Unexpect unexpected

670
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:40,560
um

671
00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:43,710
needs.

672
00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:44,800
So, at the very [clears throat] end, if

673
00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:47,000
we put leaving room for

674
00:22:47,000 --> 00:22:48,280
>> unexpected needs.

675
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:49,760
okay.

676
00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:51,040
>> Sure. Go.

677
00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,400
>> Yes.

678
00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,000
>> The administrator shall endeavor to

679
00:22:55,000 --> 00:22:56,960
align resource allocation. Would that

680
00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:58,160
fix it everything?

681
00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,080
>> The administrator shall

682
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:01,960
>> shall endeavor to align resource

683
00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:06,080
allocation. We just like or attempt or

684
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:07,400
put forth an effort.

685
00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:10,670
>> Endeavor.

686
00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:12,320
Should we still put leaving room for it?

687
00:23:12,320 --> 00:23:12,680
Or you think

688
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:14,360
>> Well, cuz then it softens the shell

689
00:23:14,360 --> 00:23:16,160
language. Is That's the only thing I

690
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,640
would look for is for it to soften that

691
00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:18,800
shell

692
00:23:18,800 --> 00:23:21,061
a little bit to address

693
00:23:21,061 --> 00:23:21,080
>> [clears throat]

694
00:23:21,080 --> 00:23:23,840
>> Commissioner Martinez's concerns.

695
00:23:23,840 --> 00:23:25,840
>> Okay. If we just put endeavor shall

696
00:23:25,840 --> 00:23:28,560
endeavor. So, that's the second pair

697
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:30,560
second sentence in that paragraph.

698
00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:31,600
>> Yeah, I think that would be fine. The

699
00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:33,040
other thing is is we could also just

700
00:23:33,040 --> 00:23:34,600
even add in a statement that says, you

701
00:23:34,600 --> 00:23:35,520
know,

702
00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:37,160
um you know, unless you know, without

703
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,400
consulting with the chair or in in

704
00:23:39,400 --> 00:23:41,600
consultation with the chair right there

705
00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:43,440
could also provide that that

706
00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:58,230
flexibility.

707
00:23:58,240 --> 00:23:59,760
» Where do you want to put I was just

708
00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:01,120
reading again. I don't know where to put

709
00:24:01,120 --> 00:24:06,230
that in there too. You know.

710
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:07,520
» And I think so let's put

711
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:09,920
>> you had covered it Melody.

712
00:24:09,920 --> 00:24:13,480
>> Oh, so leaving room for for at the end.

713
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:15,280
You still want that to go in there?

714
00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:15,880
>> That's fine.

715
00:24:15,880 --> 00:24:17,120
>> I think that covers it.

716
00:24:17,120 --> 00:24:18,480
>> Yeah, that's fine.

717
00:24:18,480 --> 00:24:20,320
>> Leaving room for I forget the verbage

718
00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:21,000
you had. Do you want

719
00:24:21,000 --> 00:24:25,870
>> Leaving room for emergency

720
00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:27,080
» unexpected need.

721
00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:28,840
>> Unexpected unexpected needs.

722
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,990
>> Unexpected.

723
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:41,310
Circumstances.

724
00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:42,920
» Okay. So,

725
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:44,880
>> prepares the agenda

726
00:24:44,880 --> 00:24:49,990
and the commission meetings.

727
00:24:50,000 --> 00:24:53,040
Attending meetings.

728
00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:54,560
Subcommittees.

729
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:59,360
Every six is good. Seven's good. Eight.

730
00:24:59,360 --> 00:25:03,310
nine.

731
00:25:03,320 --> 00:25:05,160
Okay, so this is the new one added as

732
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:07,320
well and this is F

733
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:09,080
is the election cycle transition and

734
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:11,120
training. So we're talking about when a

735
00:25:11,120 --> 00:25:13,480
new new commissioners come on.

736
00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:14,880
So the commission administration shall

737
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,640
provide each newly elected commissioner

738
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:19,240
no later than the first week of December

739
00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:20,440
following the general election and

740
00:25:20,440 --> 00:25:22,200
orientation packet that includes the

741
00:25:22,200 --> 00:25:24,400
current commission priority statement,

742
00:25:24,400 --> 00:25:25,880
status of the active commission

743
00:25:25,880 --> 00:25:27,520
objectives, the policies and procedures

744
00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:29,320
of the governing body

745
00:25:29,320 --> 00:25:30,320
>> I'm on the wrong spot.

746
00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,560
>> Well, I think that yours doesn't have

747
00:25:32,560 --> 00:25:35,680
the update of mine. So a county email

748
00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,360
address for official use.

749
00:25:37,360 --> 00:25:39,440
>> Oh, yeah. He talked about that the other

750
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:40,080
day.

751
00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:41,160
>> Yep, you need to

752
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:42,000
>> I have that.

753
00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:42,560
>> Yeah, so it's

754
00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:44,000
>> Yeah, well I used the one from last

755
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:44,360
week.

756
00:25:44,360 --> 00:25:45,200
>> Oh, yeah. Go to

757
00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:46,520
>> I have my notes on it. Well, then I got

758
00:25:46,520 --> 00:25:46,920
my

759
00:25:46,920 --> 00:25:48,720
>> Me too. I had my notes on it. I was

760
00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:49,840
doing the same thing.

761
00:25:49,840 --> 00:25:51,200
>> So page 50 is the one that's

762
00:25:51,200 --> 00:25:52,200
>> That's page 50.

763
00:25:52,200 --> 00:25:54,332
>> Okay, we're jumping over to this one.

764
00:25:54,332 --> 00:25:55,160
>> [laughter]

765
00:25:55,160 --> 00:25:58,120
>> Let's just keep both.

766
00:25:58,120 --> 00:26:01,160
>> Okay. So that says the county email

767
00:26:01,160 --> 00:26:02,600
address for official use and I think

768
00:26:02,600 --> 00:26:04,000
they do look into that that we could do

769
00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:07,400
that we have enough space to add

770
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:08,480
elects.

771
00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:09,840
>> We can make it happen, I think.

772
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:11,160
>> Okay.

773
00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,760
An orientation packet, the current

774
00:26:13,760 --> 00:26:15,320
commission priority statement, status of

775
00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,760
the active commission objectives, the

776
00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:18,600
policies and procedures of the governing

777
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:19,720
body

778
00:26:19,720 --> 00:26:21,400
with particular attention to section

779
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,560
B10, council member involvement

780
00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:25,400
operational issues, and the county's

781
00:26:25,400 --> 00:26:27,520
adopted long-range plan and other

782
00:26:27,520 --> 00:26:28,960
current planning documents as determined

783
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,480
by the administrator in consultation

784
00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:32,800
with the chair.

785
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,480
So the comment is I'm not sure what this

786
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,160
means. I would assume that long-range

787
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:38,040
planning should be done via work through

788
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:42,910
at the beginning of each year.

789
00:26:42,920 --> 00:26:44,160
It should be.

790
00:26:44,160 --> 00:26:45,320
>> I don't see a problem.

791
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,280
>> that it needs to start happening. So I

792
00:26:47,280 --> 00:26:49,720
mean I think that there is some long um

793
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:51,320
we don't currently have an adopted

794
00:26:51,320 --> 00:26:53,120
long-range plan but definitely something

795
00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:55,800
that we can work toward.

796
00:26:55,800 --> 00:26:57,040
Do we want to take that out because we

797
00:26:57,040 --> 00:27:00,270
don't currently have it?

798
00:27:00,280 --> 00:27:02,120
» The general plan is our long-range plan.

799
00:27:02,120 --> 00:27:04,120
>> Yeah, it is.

800
00:27:04,120 --> 00:27:05,400
And honestly, they should be getting I I

801
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:06,320
thought one of the first thing I was

802
00:27:06,320 --> 00:27:07,880
asked for when I was a commissioner

803
00:27:07,880 --> 00:27:10,200
Shinar was her Alicia to put that for

804
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,040
me, so

805
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,040
>> Steve, when you have questions, go

806
00:27:14,040 --> 00:27:14,898
>> I'm wondering if

807
00:27:14,898 --> 00:27:15,520
>> [laughter]

808
00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,600
>> I was like going backwards now.

809
00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,520
>> Do you want to go backwards or go to the

810
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:20,600
end and then come back?

811
00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:21,840
>> Well, at least give them a heads up so

812
00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:23,600
they can think about it.

813
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,800
I think I've taken a couple

814
00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:26,760
Yeah, questions here.

815
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:27,840
>> Yeah, I'd say keep [laughter] going.

816
00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:28,960
>> Okay,

817
00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:30,520
so we're going to continue on this same

818
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,600
section.

819
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:37,600
Still the newbies, the new commissioners.

820
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,520
The administrator shall conduct a

821
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,320
structured briefing session for incoming

822
00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:42,720
commissioners together with the county

823
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,720
attorney covering the county's current

824
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:46,080
governance direction and the role of

825
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,360
each office in policy execution.

826
00:27:49,360 --> 00:27:51,160
Um, comment is replaced with

827
00:27:51,160 --> 00:27:53,720
orientation. That's fine with me. Seems

828
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,960
to be a little bit easier actually.

829
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,360
Orientation.

830
00:27:58,360 --> 00:28:00,040
And number two, ongoing governance

831
00:28:00,040 --> 00:28:01,600
training. Commissioners and the

832
00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:02,840
commission administrator shall

833
00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,640
participate in governance training no

834
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:07,080
less than once per year addressing role

835
00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:09,440
boundaries, the policy administration

836
00:28:09,440 --> 00:28:11,480
distinction, board oversight, and open

837
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,600
meetings compliance. Training shall be

838
00:28:13,600 --> 00:28:16,280
provided by or in coordination with Utah

839
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:17,480
Association of Counties and

840
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,000
International City/County Management

841
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:22,280
Association or the qualified provider

842
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:23,360
and shall be incorporated into the

843
00:28:23,360 --> 00:28:24,880
annual meeting schedule approved each

844
00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,640
December.

845
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:27,960
Newly elected commissioners shall

846
00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:29,360
complete initial governance training

847
00:28:29,360 --> 00:28:31,640
within 90 days of taking office.

848
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,120
I think that currently happens. It just

849
00:28:33,120 --> 00:28:35,200
wasn't stated.

850
00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:36,920
So now it's in our

851
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:39,800
policies and procedures.

852
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:40,840
Good. Okay.

853
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,280
>> And it is nice getting that email

854
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:43,960
earlier because I think I remember that

855
00:28:43,960 --> 00:28:46,840
those trainings started prior to

856
00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,760
becoming a commissioner. So, I know that

857
00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,400
I I spent the first month of being a

858
00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:53,960
commissioner trying to move all of my

859
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,720
contacts and my emails from my personal

860
00:28:56,720 --> 00:28:59,400
email over to my commission email. So,

861
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:01,160
that would definitely help out with how

862
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:03,640
that timing works.

863
00:29:03,640 --> 00:29:06,990
>> Yeah, I agree.

864
00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:09,080
All right.

865
00:29:09,080 --> 00:29:12,160
So, subcommittees?

866
00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:13,280
I feel like we should discuss these

867
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:15,040
because there has been some like

868
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,240
controversial areas of subcommittees.

869
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:19,760
So, establishment of a subcommittee, the

870
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:21,480
commission may choose to appoint a

871
00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:23,520
subcommittee of its members

872
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,120
and other stakeholders and subject

873
00:29:26,120 --> 00:29:28,000
matter experts for the purpose of

874
00:29:28,000 --> 00:29:29,800
researching, reviewing, and recommending

875
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:31,160
to the governing body action on

876
00:29:31,160 --> 00:29:32,960
particular issues, problems, and areas

877
00:29:32,960 --> 00:29:34,800
of interest.

878
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,160
Subcommittees are not executive bodies

879
00:29:37,160 --> 00:29:38,480
and the subcommittee chair has no

880
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:40,360
executive authority. The governing body

881
00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,000
may, however, authorize a subcommittee

882
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,240
to undertake specific tasks.

883
00:29:44,240 --> 00:29:46,000
Commission members are not obligated to

884
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,160
vote according to subcommittee

885
00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:50,510
recommendations.

886
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:52,160
So, they shall not consist of more than

887
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:55,280
three commission members.

888
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,000
And what is it? Subcommittee meeting

889
00:29:57,000 --> 00:30:00,200
best practices?

890
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,480
So, we would create this if we need a

891
00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:05,280
subcommittee meeting best practices.

892
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,750
We're going to cross this off.

893
00:30:08,760 --> 00:30:10,080
Is there anything you guys can think of

894
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:11,880
for your in your subcommittees?

895
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:16,840
>> No, I think I think actually having subcommittee best practices would

896
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:18,400
be beneficial.

897
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:19,720
Um

898
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:21,320
just because there there is no I mean,

899
00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:23,080
we we say it's subcommittee chair and I

900
00:30:23,080 --> 00:30:24,600
don't know if we have a chair of any of

901
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,440
the subcommittees I've gone on.

902
00:30:26,440 --> 00:30:27,800
Right? It's kind of just more of an

903
00:30:27,800 --> 00:30:30,320
informational gathering,

904
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,400
you know, like type of process.

905
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,040
So, I don't know if

906
00:30:34,040 --> 00:30:35,800
>> electing a body and

907
00:30:35,800 --> 00:30:37,480
>> Yeah, but but we don't we don't have we

908
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:39,000
don't have any rubrics for what those

909
00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,160
best practices are. So, I do think that

910
00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:42,800
having a best practices that all

911
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,280
subcommittees follow would be would be

912
00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:48,830
helpful, at least to me.

913
00:30:48,840 --> 00:30:49,560
» Go ahead.

914
00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:51,160
>> Yeah, I think one of the things that

915
00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:52,680
might be a good idea to recommend in

916
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,160
best practices is defining the scope.

917
00:30:55,160 --> 00:30:56,520
So, once you establish a subcommittee

918
00:30:56,520 --> 00:30:58,120
having it stay within that scope and

919
00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:02,800
definition and then having some rules about membership, you know,

920
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:04,440
in the event that a member is unable to

921
00:31:04,440 --> 00:31:05,880
attend, they can select another person

922
00:31:05,880 --> 00:31:07,520
to go in their stead. Just some of the

923
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:09,240
things that

924
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:10,480
you know, if we're we're looking at

925
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:11,960
setting those best practices. I think

926
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,920
scope is the biggest one and then

927
00:31:14,920 --> 00:31:16,800
how they provide that information to the

928
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,720
full commission. You might want to

929
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,560
solidify how that recommendation comes

930
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,960
across and what way, how updates are

931
00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,440
provided. I think that information could

932
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:28,080
be good if you put some language that

933
00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:29,680
would say, hey look,

934
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:32,800
every quarter, every 6 months, however

935
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:33,880
long,

936
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:36,440
set a guideline on when the subcommittee

937
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,160
would come back to the full body provide

938
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,720
additional information. Items like that

939
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:42,120
might be helpful cuz sometimes we have

940
00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,080
subcommittees and they exist, but

941
00:31:45,080 --> 00:31:46,560
individuals that are not a part of that

942
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:47,960
subcommittee may or may not know where

943
00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,080
the status is and it's not necessarily

944
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:52,920
that thing to put some

945
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:54,560
aspirational language as to how often

946
00:31:54,560 --> 00:31:55,920
they report. So, those would be my

947
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,400
things that maybe I'd suggest.

948
00:31:58,400 --> 00:31:59,840
>> So, we need to work on this piece. We

949
00:31:59,840 --> 00:32:01,040
need to work on this piece a little bit

950
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,200
more. And uh

951
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:04,920
I think

952
00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:07,400
quarterly comes around really fast.

953
00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:09,760
Well, I feel like think

954
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:10,680
uh all right,

955
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:13,320
you know, twice a year would be enough.

956
00:32:13,320 --> 00:32:14,280
>> Well, there's a lot of stuff that

957
00:32:14,280 --> 00:32:16,240
happens in subcommittees. They sometimes

958
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,360
move really fast. I you know, we would

959
00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:21,200
have been adding our I mean, we haven't

960
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:25,160
had any meetings for our um

961
00:32:25,160 --> 00:32:27,120
fixed highway tax there public safety

962
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:28,000
building for a while because we're

963
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,960
waiting on the RFP, but when we were

964
00:32:29,960 --> 00:32:33,000
having them, we had them listed with the

965
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:35,200
we had them weekly and we had updates on

966
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,080
our right there with the same spot, not

967
00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:39,680
only on her I mean and then like for my

968
00:32:39,680 --> 00:32:42,120
report, I would just say see attachment

969
00:32:42,120 --> 00:32:43,720
because there was always an attachment

970
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:46,080
under the general commission reports and

971
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,040
future considerations that had that

972
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:50,040
sub-committee. So maybe we need in that

973
00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:52,640
to have a sub-committee update

974
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:55,080
that's added on those.

975
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:57,400
>> After Maybe you could say after so many

976
00:32:57,400 --> 00:32:58,680
meetings.

977
00:32:58,680 --> 00:33:00,560
Because like you said,

978
00:33:00,560 --> 00:33:02,520
you know, like sometimes like you'll

979
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,440
have meeting meeting meeting meeting and then you'll go

980
00:33:05,440 --> 00:33:06,920
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I'm trying to say

981
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:09,400
instead of saying quarterly or bi-yearly

982
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,720
just say after three meetings report or

983
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,280
after four meetings report to the

984
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:15,560
committee what's going on.

985
00:33:15,560 --> 00:33:16,462
>> Well, could it

986
00:33:16,462 --> 00:33:16,760
>> [laughter]

987
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:18,280
>> Oh, could it possibly be that that's

988
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:20,880
defined in the scope? So we say that,

989
00:33:20,880 --> 00:33:22,440
you know, at the formation of the

990
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:23,880
sub-committee,

991
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,040
um you know, the sub-committee will

992
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:26,640
decide like does the sub-committee need

993
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:28,400
a chair? Right? Does the sub-committee

994
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:30,400
going to meet, you know, just setting

995
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:32,240
the basic parameters. When is that

996
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:33,400
reporting? And then they could bring

997
00:33:33,400 --> 00:33:35,640
that back. At least that's That's just

998
00:33:35,640 --> 00:33:37,000
part of that best practices. It's a

999
00:33:37,000 --> 00:33:38,480
little sheet even that we just fill out

1000
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,840
and say, "Okay, check box one, two, and

1001
00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,000
three." And then and then then the

1002
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:44,040
sub-committee could move and

1003
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:46,360
sub-committees Some sub-committees might

1004
00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,080
want to report back, you know, every

1005
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:49,520
commission because it might be a hot

1006
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,640
topic that needs to happen or it might

1007
00:33:51,640 --> 00:33:52,840
be something that, "Hey, this is just

1008
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:54,280
something that we're looking at for

1009
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:55,960
long-range planning and it doesn't need

1010
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:57,600
to be reported but once a year."

1011
00:33:57,600 --> 00:33:59,000
>> Or when something major happens.

1012
00:33:59,000 --> 00:34:00,760
>> Yeah. For example, like you know, I'm on

1013
00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:02,560
the flooding sub-committee. We've met

1014
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:04,200
three times since I've been a

1015
00:34:04,200 --> 00:34:05,640
commissioner. We meet meeting meeting

1016
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:07,160
but it's not something we meet all the

1017
00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,879
time but for example, we're working on

1018
00:34:08,879 --> 00:34:11,000
the artist channels sub-committee right

1019
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,040
now and we're meeting two

1020
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,240
to three times a week. And so things are

1021
00:34:15,240 --> 00:34:17,480
moving faster that we should probably be

1022
00:34:17,480 --> 00:34:19,879
putting report in

1023
00:34:19,879 --> 00:34:24,669
as a separate report versus just in our

1024
00:34:24,679 --> 00:34:27,120
» If you if you establish a floor, if you

1025
00:34:27,120 --> 00:34:28,840
say, "Hey,

1026
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:31,040
we'll give a report twice a year." You

1027
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,800
guys can always report more than that.

1028
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:35,800
Um but sometimes the the public or even

1029
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:37,919
the commission kind of forgets about a

1030
00:34:37,919 --> 00:34:39,840
subcommittee existing if they're dormant

1031
00:34:39,840 --> 00:34:41,639
and they don't do a lot of things. So,

1032
00:34:41,639 --> 00:34:43,720
having updates, you know, I think twice

1033
00:34:43,720 --> 00:34:45,720
a year would be helpful. Um and if

1034
00:34:45,720 --> 00:34:47,240
there's not that many updates, the

1035
00:34:47,240 --> 00:34:49,320
question is raised on whether we want a

1036
00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:51,879
subcommittee or not. So, just additional

1037
00:34:51,879 --> 00:34:52,800
food for food for thought.

1038
00:34:52,800 --> 00:34:54,240
>> So, maybe in the define the scope

1039
00:34:54,240 --> 00:34:56,320
definition and how often and reporting

1040
00:34:56,320 --> 00:34:59,520
would be one section and then Okay.

1041
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,040
We're going to work on this piece and

1042
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:03,360
bring it back.

1043
00:35:03,360 --> 00:35:04,400
Have it Well, we'll have it ready

1044
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:05,920
hopefully for the vote, but

1045
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,240
um

1046
00:35:07,240 --> 00:35:09,840
moving on to commission meetings.

1047
00:35:09,840 --> 00:35:11,880
I'll just go through these.

1048
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:13,600
Let me know if there's any comments on 1

1049
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:17,710
2 3.

1050
00:35:17,720 --> 00:35:19,480
You know, I have two.

1051
00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:21,160
Okay, so this is Let's just go ahead and

1052
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:22,360
look at

1053
00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:26,510
um

1054
00:35:26,520 --> 00:35:28,240
» Oh, where are we at?

1055
00:35:28,240 --> 00:35:29,680
>> We're on number three. I didn't know if

1056
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,960
that was talking about three. That's

1057
00:35:31,960 --> 00:35:33,240
just when they they start. They start at

1058
00:35:33,240 --> 00:35:35,360
4:00.

1059
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:37,240
And they'll be noticed. Special

1060
00:35:37,240 --> 00:35:40,080
meetings, emergency meetings,

1061
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:43,160
workshops, joint workshops,

1062
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:48,510
agenda.

1063
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:52,710
Moving on to page 18.

1064
00:35:52,720 --> 00:35:54,720
» We talked about joint meetings that

1065
00:35:54,720 --> 00:35:59,150
compared to

1066
00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:02,000
>> Joint workshops.

1067
00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:03,320
Did you have a comment on that one, Rex

1068
00:36:03,320 --> 00:36:04,040
Marion?

1069
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,720
>> In the past, we've had joint

1070
00:36:06,720 --> 00:36:08,280
meetings.

1071
00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:10,960
with Castle

1072
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:15,160
Valley, City of Moab, Grand County.

1073
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:16,640
Uh where they were meetings, not

1074
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:19,480
workshops, and we usually had an agenda

1075
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:22,440
and an action item when they were joint

1076
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:23,240
meetings.

1077
00:36:23,240 --> 00:36:24,800
>> And you get the commit This commission

1078
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,360
has one this year.

1079
00:36:26,360 --> 00:36:27,725
>> But they didn't have any action

1080
00:36:27,725 --> 00:36:27,960
>> [laughter]

1081
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:29,160
>> Well, we didn't have any action item.

1082
00:36:29,160 --> 00:36:30,360
>> So technically that was more of a

1083
00:36:30,360 --> 00:36:33,880
workshop. Well, we have we haven't for

1084
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:36,680
years, but we I don't think since

1085
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,320
COVID. But

1086
00:36:38,320 --> 00:36:40,840
with prior to COVID, but we had a few

1087
00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:44,440
workshops that we voted on resolutions

1088
00:36:44,440 --> 00:36:46,640
really where we wanted to have a real

1089
00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:48,880
strong resolution

1090
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:51,305
that had all three bodies saying this is

1091
00:36:51,305 --> 00:36:51,760
>> [cough]

1092
00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:53,680
>> what we want.

1093
00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:55,280
>> I I I think you could add in objective

1094
00:36:55,280 --> 00:36:57,760
paragraph or a number in commission

1095
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,440
meetings just so that that talks about

1096
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,520
how joint meetings happen. I think it's

1097
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:03,440
the

1098
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,715
uh the chair working with the

1099
00:37:05,715 --> 00:37:06,040
>> [laughter]

1100
00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,760
>> mayor or whoever the chair of the other

1101
00:37:08,760 --> 00:37:10,240
body is. I think there would be

1102
00:37:10,240 --> 00:37:11,280
>> It's the chair It's the mayor It's the

1103
00:37:11,280 --> 00:37:13,200
mayor since I'm mayor of

1104
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:18,600
>> And and I I will have a request for the commission and the city to do a

1105
00:37:18,600 --> 00:37:20,240
joint meeting on domestic violence in

1106
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:21,880
October. Um

1107
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:22,640
>> And you might want to have

1108
00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:24,520
>> Is that a workshop or a meeting?

1109
00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,280
>> We We're going to point at the the group

1110
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,640
that we're working with, the ICCR. Uh we

1111
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:30,280
were going to ask for a joint resolution

1112
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:34,480
cuz it's domestic violence awareness month in October. And so just

1113
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,480
>> And and those joint

1114
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:38,480
resolutions are powerful.

1115
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:39,520
>> Yeah.

1116
00:37:39,520 --> 00:37:41,640
>> You know, when you say every elected

1117
00:37:41,640 --> 00:37:44,361
body in this county believes

1118
00:37:44,361 --> 00:37:46,480
[clears throat] that this is a priority.

1119
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:51,520
So I I I I underline that that

1120
00:37:51,520 --> 00:37:52,880
there's a difference between a joint

1121
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,830
workshop and a joint meeting.

1122
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,120
» Okay, we will add in a joint meetings.

1123
00:38:00,120 --> 00:38:01,390
>> Okay, please.

1124
00:38:01,391 --> 00:38:01,400
» [clears throat]

1125
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,720
>> Thank you.

1126
00:38:03,720 --> 00:38:05,840
Okay.

1127
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:09,560
So workshops

1128
00:38:09,560 --> 00:38:12,120
So agenda We're on page 18 now.

1129
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:14,470
15.

1130
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,680
Okay, so the suggested suggested

1131
00:38:17,680 --> 00:38:19,240
order

1132
00:38:19,240 --> 00:38:20,880
for items in order will be determined by

1133
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,320
the chair.

1134
00:38:22,320 --> 00:38:23,800
I know these have been moved around a

1135
00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,280
lot in the last 3 and 1/2, so

1136
00:38:27,280 --> 00:38:29,320
The key to this is the citizens to be

1137
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:30,400
heard.

1138
00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,640
We want to just have one citizen to be

1139
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:38,150
heard, and it will not be before 5:00.

1140
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,600
So, put it on the agenda

1141
00:38:40,600 --> 00:38:43,000
kind of midway, and

1142
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:44,800
we're only going to do one.

1143
00:38:44,800 --> 00:38:46,760
>> Would it be possible to maybe change the

1144
00:38:46,760 --> 00:38:48,560
word citizens to be heard, maybe

1145
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:49,880
community members to be heard, or

1146
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:52,640
something different than citizens?

1147
00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:53,880
>> I agree.

1148
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,640
>> I don't know what word you pick, but

1149
00:38:56,640 --> 00:38:57,840
>> What's wrong with a citizen?

1150
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:58,880
>> Because we have people that aren't

1151
00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:00,720
citizens that talk all the time.

1152
00:39:00,720 --> 00:39:02,000
>> They aren't?

1153
00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:03,800
Well, we don't I don't know that the

1154
00:39:03,800 --> 00:39:05,640
commission cares if if somebody wasn't a

1155
00:39:05,640 --> 00:39:07,240
US citizen in a lawful capacity.

1156
00:39:07,240 --> 00:39:08,800
>> I don't know what you're saying. It does

1157
00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:10,400
respect Okay, I'm open to that.

1158
00:39:10,400 --> 00:39:11,920
>> Yeah, and we have people from Colorado

1159
00:39:11,920 --> 00:39:13,600
that talk, and we have people that live

1160
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:15,200
in California that talk. I mean, we

1161
00:39:15,200 --> 00:39:17,000
don't just only have like Grand County

1162
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:18,240
citizens.

1163
00:39:18,240 --> 00:39:19,320
>> That implied

1164
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:21,320
>> commu- uh

1165
00:39:21,320 --> 00:39:21,920
>> public

1166
00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,960
>> Or public Or public comment. Public

1167
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:25,600
comment.

1168
00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,070
>> Yeah.

1169
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:32,630
» Public comment.

1170
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:35,440
The I just want to give some background

1171
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,640
as to why we chose four and six.

1172
00:39:38,640 --> 00:39:41,880
It was after meeting with uh various We

1173
00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:44,200
went to that We met with and talked to

1174
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,400
various businesses,

1175
00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:48,960
and like and uh

1176
00:39:48,960 --> 00:39:52,360
large employers.

1177
00:39:52,360 --> 00:39:55,560
And their comment was that in a in a

1178
00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:58,640
community where we have

1179
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,080
a high uh service industry,

1180
00:40:02,080 --> 00:40:05,910
a lot of times they're

1181
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:11,360
you know, we had it at 4:00 because it it helped with the shift changes. We

1182
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,200
had That's why we had it at 4:00 because

1183
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,760
a lot of people, if they they may go to

1184
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,880
work at 5:00.

1185
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,960
Anyway, it it was a it was not like a

1186
00:40:21,960 --> 00:40:24,520
decision made in a vacuum like oh, let's

1187
00:40:24,520 --> 00:40:26,800
do it this way. Yeah, there was a lot of

1188
00:40:26,800 --> 00:40:29,200
communication with Chamber of Commerce,

1189
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,640
Chamber of people and we came up well,

1190
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,360
if we're going to if we truly want to

1191
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:36,800
give our public if we want to say public

1192
00:40:36,800 --> 00:40:37,680
now

1193
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:38,360
uh

1194
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,840
and we want to hear from them

1195
00:40:41,840 --> 00:40:44,480
we and we want to you know, come across

1196
00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,000
as being open to hearing from them.

1197
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:48,840
Let's make it as easy for them as

1198
00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:50,000
possible.

1199
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:52,920
And that was and I never when I was

1200
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:54,720
chairing never found it to be that

1201
00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:58,200
burdensome to just stop at 6:00 or close

1202
00:40:58,200 --> 00:41:00,680
to and say

1203
00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:02,160
uh

1204
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:03,840
you know, you

1205
00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,040
most of the time you don't, but

1206
00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:06,280
sometimes you'd have people that

1207
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,200
couldn't make it to 6:00.

1208
00:41:08,200 --> 00:41:11,040
So, I'll go I'm not going to I'm not

1209
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,080
falling on any sword for this. I just

1210
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:15,120
wanted to let you know that it wasn't

1211
00:41:15,120 --> 00:41:16,840
made in a vacuum and there was a lot of

1212
00:41:16,840 --> 00:41:18,920
thought put into it. Thank you.

1213
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,440
>> Mike

1214
00:41:20,440 --> 00:41:22,720
>> Uh also with

1215
00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:24,440
if we're looking at changing it, can we

1216
00:41:24,440 --> 00:41:25,098
review

1217
00:41:25,098 --> 00:41:25,520
>> [cough]

1218
00:41:25,520 --> 00:41:26,520
>> on

1219
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:28,280
public comment period? A lot of people

1220
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,600
have approached me and said

1221
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,360
why can't you guys answer questions

1222
00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,040
while they're asking them and a lot of

1223
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:37,040
people and

1224
00:41:37,040 --> 00:41:39,600
I know, but we really want to say that

1225
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:42,480
it's time for the public to add public

1226
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:44,280
comment, but it's not it's not a back

1227
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:45,640
and forth between the commissioners and

1228
00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:46,800
the public.

1229
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:48,200
Can we put that out when we put this

1230
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:48,640
out?

1231
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:50,320
>> It's Yeah, I think we get I think

1232
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:51,920
there's a spot in here to talk about

1233
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:53,000
that.

1234
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:54,080
If it's not in this, it's in the hand

1235
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,600
somewhere where it talks about what it's

1236
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:56,600
not up

1237
00:41:56,600 --> 00:41:57,960
We'll see when we get there.

1238
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:59,640
>> I will say that

1239
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:03,080
I think one is more than enough to have

1240
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:04,840
in the meeting. I do think it needs to

1241
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:06,480
be a little bit later so that other

1242
00:42:06,480 --> 00:42:08,520
people can

1243
00:42:08,520 --> 00:42:10,320
make it here that aren't able to get off

1244
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:13,160
earlier as Mary said, but I'll also

1245
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:15,280
state that there are many counties in

1246
00:42:15,280 --> 00:42:17,160
the state of Utah that do not allow

1247
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:21,280
public comment at all. So, I think that

1248
00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:23,360
going with and going above and beyond

1249
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,360
and just kind of narrowing this down to

1250
00:42:26,360 --> 00:42:28,160
make our meetings a little bit shorter

1251
00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:30,160
anywhere that we can.

1252
00:42:30,160 --> 00:42:31,680
>> Well,

1253
00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:34,120
my biggest concern is that if we

1254
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:35,560
continue with the 4 and the 6 and the

1255
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,000
people come down here at 6 and we're

1256
00:42:37,000 --> 00:42:38,520
adjourned.

1257
00:42:38,520 --> 00:42:40,360
>> Well, I loved what you put in the back

1258
00:42:40,360 --> 00:42:43,000
and it that made it so clear in the

1259
00:42:43,000 --> 00:42:44,480
agenda that if the

1260
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:45,960
commission I mean that's how it has to

1261
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:47,640
be is in the agenda today.

1262
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:48,800
>> But then they have to make sure that

1263
00:42:48,800 --> 00:42:50,360
they hear by 4:00 whereas if we move it

1264
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:51,760
a little bit, the other thing is that

1265
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,840
people can zoom in so that makes it nice

1266
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,480
if they know they can't be here at 5:00

1267
00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:58,240
because they just got off work but they

1268
00:42:58,240 --> 00:43:00,720
can they can zoom in. So, if we say not

1269
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:02,720
before 5:00. The other thing is we've

1270
00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:06,400
had people angry because we have things

1271
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,360
that go longer when you like a workshop

1272
00:43:09,360 --> 00:43:13,760
or some of our other closed sessions

1273
00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:16,400
and order

1274
00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:18,160
canvassers and whatever it is that we

1275
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:20,000
have meetings those meetings earlier and

1276
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,840
they they go past 4:00 and then we have

1277
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:23,480
all those people outside that are that

1278
00:43:23,480 --> 00:43:25,960
are irritated. They also have the option

1279
00:43:25,960 --> 00:43:28,160
and of course we love to hear from our

1280
00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,160
public but you know they can email us.

1281
00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:31,800
We get our email they can email us at

1282
00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,840
any point in time so they can email us.

1283
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:35,840
They can hop online and I think if we

1284
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:37,800
just have one that way that people have

1285
00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:40,160
an expectation and maybe we do have a

1286
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:43,520
specific time and we say 5:00

1287
00:43:43,520 --> 00:43:45,080
or 5:15

1288
00:43:45,080 --> 00:43:46,720
or close.

1289
00:43:46,720 --> 00:43:48,520
I mean as close to as we can but that

1290
00:43:48,520 --> 00:43:49,920
way it's not they're not you know if we

1291
00:43:49,920 --> 00:43:51,480
just say not before 5:00 then it could

1292
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:53,520
be at 8:00. You know, I think we need to

1293
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:55,095
have a specific start time.

1294
00:43:55,095 --> 00:43:55,880
>> [laughter]

1295
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:57,280
>> And that's the nice thing having it at

1296
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:58,480
the beginning of the meeting cuz

1297
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,160
actually it's right on time. Not always

1298
00:44:01,160 --> 00:44:02,960
but most of the time.

1299
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:04,960
>> I'd suggest a set time. It makes it

1300
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,720
easy. We never have anybody asking when it it's going to be at I think

1301
00:44:08,720 --> 00:44:11,760
5:30. I think with technology as easy it

1302
00:44:11,760 --> 00:44:14,440
is as it is to participate in meetings

1303
00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:16,040
I think that if somebody wanted to leave

1304
00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:17,760
work if it was that important ask their

1305
00:44:17,760 --> 00:44:20,400
employer for for an exception.

1306
00:44:20,400 --> 00:44:21,880
>> And I want it relatively early in the

1307
00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,160
meeting because a lot of times they're

1308
00:44:23,160 --> 00:44:25,120
commenting on multiple points.

1309
00:44:25,120 --> 00:44:27,160
So now and so I don't want to push it

1310
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,440
too late. So 4:45, 5:00, what do you

1311
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:31,880
guys think? And let's stick let's pick

1312
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,200
just one time slot.

1313
00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,600
>> I've I've got a whole other idea in here

1314
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:37,120
just

1315
00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:38,325
>> Okay.

1316
00:44:38,325 --> 00:44:38,680
>> [laughter]

1317
00:44:38,680 --> 00:44:42,510
>> We're running out of time.

1318
00:44:42,520 --> 00:44:45,120
» If we want to say uh

1319
00:44:45,120 --> 00:44:46,960
Of course it won't be an exact time, but

1320
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:48,320
like you said, you know, if we can

1321
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:50,600
educate the public that some counties

1322
00:44:50,600 --> 00:44:52,800
don't even allow this,

1323
00:44:52,800 --> 00:44:58,590
but have it right before action items.

1324
00:44:58,600 --> 00:45:00,560
Because people usually are talked what

1325
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,840
are commenting on our action items.

1326
00:45:02,840 --> 00:45:04,440
>> Yeah, but they kind of want a time as

1327
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:05,400
well.

1328
00:45:05,400 --> 00:45:06,760
All

1329
00:45:06,760 --> 00:45:09,240
right, so we're going to say 5:00.

1330
00:45:09,240 --> 00:45:10,640
I'm just going to put 5:00 in here. We

1331
00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,560
have to discuss it again as we vote on

1332
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:13,640
these then we will vote.

1333
00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:14,960
>> So then maybe when we're doing the

1334
00:45:14,960 --> 00:45:17,040
agenda we'll want to make any items we

1335
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,320
think public is going to have

1336
00:45:19,320 --> 00:45:21,556
>> after that 5:00 time.

1337
00:45:21,556 --> 00:45:21,880
>> [laughter]

1338
00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:23,240
>> And we kind of do that anyways. We try

1339
00:45:23,240 --> 00:45:24,960
to adjust our agenda that way.

1340
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:27,400
>> Or we what we've done it yeah.

1341
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:33,190
>> Okay, it's hard. All right, so that is

1342
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,240
So number four looks like a brand new

1343
00:45:35,240 --> 00:45:37,960
item here and it says

1344
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,320
agenda and agenda summary deadline.

1345
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:41,800
Actually it's not new. We've had this a

1346
00:45:41,800 --> 00:45:43,800
while, but request for inclusion on an

1347
00:45:43,800 --> 00:45:45,560
agenda and support documentation must be

1348
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,040
received by 5:00 Tuesday before. That's

1349
00:45:48,040 --> 00:45:49,840
actually been in place. It might not

1350
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:51,280
have been in our policies and

1351
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:53,560
procedures, but

1352
00:45:53,560 --> 00:45:55,320
legal [clears throat] review at least

1353
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:57,480
two weeks for Stephen for the county

1354
00:45:57,480 --> 00:46:01,310
attorney.

1355
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:05,590
So

1356
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,080
continuing on.

1357
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:09,000
>> One one quick note for Dana, under the

1358
00:46:09,000 --> 00:46:10,480
commission meeting, we do need to keep

1359
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,680
the word action item somewhere in there.

1360
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,520
If we delete the word action item, we

1361
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:17,200
can't have action items. So, I it was

1362
00:46:17,200 --> 00:46:18,480
connected to public hearing {dash}

1363
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:20,160
possible action items. So, we just need

1364
00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,320
somewhere in the in the set action item.

1365
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:24,600
That's all I'm Quinn just wanted me to

1366
00:46:24,600 --> 00:46:26,200
say that out loud. Dana will catch that

1367
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:26,640
and

1368
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:27,760
>> Action items, okay.

1369
00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:29,120
>> Yep.

1370
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:30,640
>> Which I think she Cuz it's always on

1371
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:31,960
there, but needs to be in our possible

1372
00:46:31,960 --> 00:46:36,830
action items.

1373
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:38,360
Okay.

1374
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:41,880
So, moving on to page No comments on 19.

1375
00:46:41,880 --> 00:46:47,110
On 20, page 20.

1376
00:46:47,120 --> 00:46:49,200
Um there's a comment about the consent

1377
00:46:49,200 --> 00:46:50,640
agenda.

1378
00:46:50,640 --> 00:46:52,200
Any item may be moved to the regular

1379
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:53,880
agenda from the consent agenda for

1380
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:55,760
additional commission consideration and

1381
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:57,720
someone said something like

1382
00:46:57,720 --> 00:47:02,310
by any commissioner without a motion.

1383
00:47:02,320 --> 00:47:03,840
» Where are we at?

1384
00:47:03,840 --> 00:47:04,720
>> Um okay, I got it.

1385
00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:11,950
>> Page consent agenda on page 20.

1386
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,560
I just think any Any item may be moved

1387
00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,240
>> already, but I'm okay if somebody thinks

1388
00:47:17,240 --> 00:47:18,720
that we need to put that in there.

1389
00:47:18,720 --> 00:47:19,720
>> It doesn't have to have a motion.

1390
00:47:19,720 --> 00:47:21,200
Somebody can just request for it to be

1391
00:47:21,200 --> 00:47:21,480
moved.

1392
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:23,120
>> You just request the pull out of it.

1393
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:24,120
>> There's no motion. You don't have to

1394
00:47:24,120 --> 00:47:25,520
say, "Oh no, you can't do it." cuz that

1395
00:47:25,520 --> 00:47:26,880
wouldn't be okay.

1396
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:27,440
>> I'll change it.

1397
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:29,680
>> The commissioner may request

1398
00:47:29,680 --> 00:47:31,320
Yeah, any item may be moved to the

1399
00:47:31,320 --> 00:47:33,360
regular agenda from the consent agenda

1400
00:47:33,360 --> 00:47:34,760
for additional commission consideration

1401
00:47:34,760 --> 00:47:36,480
during the meeting.

1402
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,440
>> And I like how you currently been

1403
00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,280
taking them and just move them down the

1404
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:41,960
line so we can get through the meeting

1405
00:47:41,960 --> 00:47:45,360
and just tackle another one.

1406
00:47:45,360 --> 00:47:47,160
>> This is above kind of

1407
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:49,800
what it says on unanimous consensus of

1408
00:47:49,800 --> 00:47:52,080
members present, right? So, without that

1409
00:47:52,080 --> 00:47:54,720
without unanimous consent consensus, it

1410
00:47:54,720 --> 00:47:55,920
can't be unanimous.

1411
00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:56,680
>> Yeah.

1412
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:57,920
>> I feel like that comment

1413
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,360
>> So, if one person wants to pull it off

1414
00:47:59,360 --> 00:47:59,640
then you

1415
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:01,520
>> Exactly.

1416
00:48:01,520 --> 00:48:08,950
>> Um

1417
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:11,790
» L1

1418
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:12,920
» L

1419
00:48:12,920 --> 00:48:14,160
>> L1

1420
00:48:14,160 --> 00:48:16,400
>> Ooh.

1421
00:48:16,400 --> 00:48:18,880
On page 20 that we missed at council and

1422
00:48:18,880 --> 00:48:19,920
got to go to commission.

1423
00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:21,440
>> Well, we did it. Look how many people

1424
00:48:21,440 --> 00:48:22,560
have read that.

1425
00:48:22,560 --> 00:48:23,400
>> Missed that.

1426
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,720
>> Cuz you read what you think it says.

1427
00:48:25,720 --> 00:48:27,080
>> What page did you say?

1428
00:48:27,080 --> 00:48:30,400
>> Oh, it's just on 20. On 20 it was L

1429
00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:32,120
number one. It needed a commission

1430
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:37,310
change.

1431
00:48:37,320 --> 00:48:38,560
All right, we're really bad at number

1432
00:48:38,560 --> 00:48:40,840
five on page 21. When a call for the

1433
00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:43,000
vote is commenced, no member shall leave

1434
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:46,080
until the vote is called. So if that

1435
00:48:46,080 --> 00:48:46,640
happens sometimes

1436
00:48:46,640 --> 00:48:48,080
>> It took me a few years but Stephen

1437
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,080
>> Yeah.

1438
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:50,080
And but anyways, we don't need to

1439
00:48:50,080 --> 00:48:51,960
discuss that. Just leave it out.

1440
00:48:51,960 --> 00:48:53,080
>> Leave it out.

1441
00:48:53,080 --> 00:48:54,960
>> I think we're 21.

1442
00:48:54,960 --> 00:48:56,760
Everything on page 21 looks good?

1443
00:48:56,760 --> 00:48:57,840
>> Mhm.

1444
00:48:57,840 --> 00:49:01,750
>> Okay, moving to page 22.

1445
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,000
Postponing table. Postpone is the other

1446
00:49:04,000 --> 00:49:07,840
than the BD. Table is later that week.

1447
00:49:07,840 --> 00:49:10,480
>> And I on item L7, I don't know if you

1448
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:12,200
did that or whether any of you all

1449
00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:14,640
wanted to put that language in.

1450
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:16,000
>> What page are you on?

1451
00:49:16,000 --> 00:49:17,240
>> 21, item seven.

1452
00:49:17,240 --> 00:49:21,600
>> Back to 21.

1453
00:49:21,600 --> 00:49:24,120
Number seven, abstentions.

1454
00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:26,560
>> I don't know. I just

1455
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,360
that there have been that there have

1456
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,560
been questions regarding kind of basis

1457
00:49:30,560 --> 00:49:33,440
of doing abstentions.

1458
00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:34,840
So there's just that language that

1459
00:49:34,840 --> 00:49:35,400
explains it.

1460
00:49:35,400 --> 00:49:37,640
>> Well, I that's been probably I brought

1461
00:49:37,640 --> 00:49:39,920
that up. I think that people should vote

1462
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:42,440
unless they have a real reason not to.

1463
00:49:42,440 --> 00:49:43,840
But like for example, the other day I

1464
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,520
had to abstain because it was a customer

1465
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:48,800
of mine and so I had to to abstain. But

1466
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:49,880
I feel like there's been a lot of

1467
00:49:49,880 --> 00:49:51,840
abstentions that people just choose to

1468
00:49:51,840 --> 00:49:54,240
not vote And I think we're elected to be

1469
00:49:54,240 --> 00:49:56,120
the voters. That's why people the public

1470
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:58,120
elects us as the decision makers and

1471
00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:00,440
people just abstain.

1472
00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:02,240
But I don't know that we I don't I'm I'm

1473
00:50:02,240 --> 00:50:03,800
I don't feel strong enough to put it on

1474
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:04,040
the

1475
00:50:04,040 --> 00:50:06,960
>> Yeah, I think I think uh lots of people

1476
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,600
abstain because

1477
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,000
they they could argue either side of the

1478
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:14,880
issue. They I mean it's

1479
00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:15,480
>> Okay.

1480
00:50:15,480 --> 00:50:16,040
>> I'll think we're saying

1481
00:50:16,040 --> 00:50:16,920
>> I'm saying I don't know that

1482
00:50:16,920 --> 00:50:18,400
>> What I have with that is they argue

1483
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,120
their side of the position and then they

1484
00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:21,880
abstain voting. True.

1485
00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:23,040
>> So if someone's going to abstain they

1486
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:27,640
need to say that they need to abstain at the beginning of

1487
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:30,120
the conversation and not comment. Is

1488
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:30,920
that allowed?

1489
00:50:30,920 --> 00:50:32,840
>> yeah, if you noted that abstentions

1490
00:50:32,840 --> 00:50:35,240
should be raised at the beginning of the

1491
00:50:35,240 --> 00:50:36,560
uh at the beginning of the topic or the

1492
00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,360
discussion item of the action item.

1493
00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:39,440
>> Well, that's a good idea.

1494
00:50:39,440 --> 00:50:40,720
>> And then you could put it different

1495
00:50:40,720 --> 00:50:43,160
categories and non-vote.

1496
00:50:43,160 --> 00:50:45,680
In this one they they differentiate or

1497
00:50:45,680 --> 00:50:47,280
they say an abstention is considered a

1498
00:50:47,280 --> 00:50:49,160
non-vote cuz really if you're abstaining

1499
00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:50,560
>> It's a non-vote.

1500
00:50:50,560 --> 00:50:52,240
>> Well, yeah, but if you're just kind of

1501
00:50:52,240 --> 00:50:53,840
separating those two.

1502
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:55,680
Non-vote versus an abstention.

1503
00:50:55,680 --> 00:50:56,800
>> So they're different.

1504
00:50:56,800 --> 00:50:57,480
>> Yeah.

1505
00:50:57,480 --> 00:50:59,360
>> So So non-vote Yeah, I'm just not voting

1506
00:50:59,360 --> 00:50:59,840
on this.

1507
00:50:59,840 --> 00:51:01,360
>> Correct. As a as opposed to I'm

1508
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:02,800
abstaining from the debate and the

1509
00:51:02,800 --> 00:51:04,280
discussion on this item because I have a

1510
00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:05,160
conflict of interest.

1511
00:51:05,160 --> 00:51:07,320
>> So a non-vote is just just you just

1512
00:51:07,320 --> 00:51:08,200
don't want to vote.

1513
00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:08,440
>> Correct.

1514
00:51:08,440 --> 00:51:10,080
>> And so you get to be involved in the

1515
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,320
conversation and then you just don't

1516
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:13,560
vote.

1517
00:51:13,560 --> 00:51:13,960
>> Yeah.

1518
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:15,880
>> We better have somebody put some verbage

1519
00:51:15,880 --> 00:51:16,400
together.

1520
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:16,960
>> Okay.

1521
00:51:16,960 --> 00:51:17,600
>> Yeah.

1522
00:51:17,600 --> 00:51:18,560
>> Okay.

1523
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:19,800
>> Like when I abstain from the sheriff

1524
00:51:19,800 --> 00:51:21,760
department of stuff because of my

1525
00:51:21,760 --> 00:51:22,440
conflict.

1526
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:24,120
>> Correct. Sure.

1527
00:51:24,120 --> 00:51:26,240
>> Don't partake in the discussion, too, is

1528
00:51:26,240 --> 00:51:27,320
what we're saying.

1529
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:28,680
>> Well, correct. That's a that's a

1530
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,880
abstention. You cannot engage on that

1531
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:31,840
because it's restricted to you.

1532
00:51:31,840 --> 00:51:33,000
>> Just say here. No problem.

1533
00:51:33,000 --> 00:51:34,760
>> But people are always

1534
00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:36,320
commenting and then they abstain.

1535
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:38,000
>> Yeah. Yeah, I understand.

1536
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,400
>> So then they And when I say no, they say

1537
00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,160
yay, nay, and then

1538
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:43,000
So then they

1539
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:43,800
I'm not voting.

1540
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:44,280
>> Correct.

1541
00:51:44,280 --> 00:51:45,960
>> Instead of abstaining

1542
00:51:45,960 --> 00:51:46,760
>> That that makes sense.

1543
00:51:46,760 --> 00:51:48,440
>> Abstaining has to be called before the

1544
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:50,320
conversation before the

1545
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:50,760
>> Like the debate

1546
00:51:50,760 --> 00:51:52,840
>> Abstaining distinguishes the trade.

1547
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:53,800
>> All right. So, you're going to work on

1548
00:51:53,800 --> 00:51:53,960
that.

1549
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:55,160
>> Okay. Yes.

1550
00:51:55,160 --> 00:51:57,600
>> Perfect. Thank you.

1551
00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:03,470
Okay. The finishing

1552
00:52:03,480 --> 00:52:06,200
» I didn't have any comments

1553
00:52:06,200 --> 00:52:07,160
on

1554
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:08,120
Oh, yes, I did.

1555
00:52:08,120 --> 00:52:09,960
>> You have some comments buried somewhere.

1556
00:52:09,960 --> 00:52:12,280
>> I think where I Next time I I got to see

1557
00:52:12,280 --> 00:52:13,920
what that was.

1558
00:52:13,920 --> 00:52:21,950
Page 24

1559
00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:30,990
» And what was your comment?

1560
00:52:31,000 --> 00:52:33,080
» I just I guess I just circled number

1561
00:52:33,080 --> 00:52:34,320
four and five but you know they're

1562
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,160
really important.

1563
00:52:36,160 --> 00:52:37,520
>> Those are and that's what we discussed

1564
00:52:37,520 --> 00:52:38,800
earlier, Mike, when you were talking

1565
00:52:38,800 --> 00:52:42,000
about that we so

1566
00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,120
Um no member shall debate with the

1567
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:45,960
public or employees during the meetings

1568
00:52:45,960 --> 00:52:48,080
and that's why we don't answer them back

1569
00:52:48,080 --> 00:52:50,480
because it could turn into a debate.

1570
00:52:50,480 --> 00:52:51,040
>> But I don't think

1571
00:52:51,040 --> 00:52:52,640
>> Right? If they're here and they're

1572
00:52:52,640 --> 00:52:53,520
frustrated.

1573
00:52:53,520 --> 00:52:54,800
>> I don't think every member of the public

1574
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:56,920
knows that because I've got a question

1575
00:52:56,920 --> 00:52:57,560
on that.

1576
00:52:57,560 --> 00:52:59,160
>> Well, you know, I I there's been part of

1577
00:52:59,160 --> 00:53:01,560
me that wants to read the decorum debate

1578
00:53:01,560 --> 00:53:03,600
where every citizen is to be heard.

1579
00:53:03,600 --> 00:53:04,560
>> Okay.

1580
00:53:04,560 --> 00:53:06,680
>> It's not a bad idea.

1581
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:08,240
>> You know, just to read that every time

1582
00:53:08,240 --> 00:53:10,440
we go into it and then they are

1583
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,320
aware of it.

1584
00:53:13,320 --> 00:53:15,160
>> So, I used to read something that I

1585
00:53:15,160 --> 00:53:16,560
can't remember. I had something written

1586
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:18,000
out about

1587
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,640
behavior for citizens to be heard at the

1588
00:53:20,640 --> 00:53:21,000
meeting.

1589
00:53:21,000 --> 00:53:21,960
>> Go ahead, Steven.

1590
00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:24,040
>> On on Q

1591
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:25,760
decorum debate, item number six,

1592
00:53:25,760 --> 00:53:27,640
limitation of debate. This would be a

1593
00:53:27,640 --> 00:53:30,520
section where you guys could put in

1594
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:32,640
limitations on how many times one

1595
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,160
speaks, how the city does. I think they

1596
00:53:35,160 --> 00:53:36,520
only do two times at the meeting.

1597
00:53:36,520 --> 00:53:39,200
>> two times and then then you ask the

1598
00:53:39,200 --> 00:53:42,280
question, does someone have a comment

1599
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:44,720
that hasn't already been

1600
00:53:44,720 --> 00:53:47,040
presented? You know, like did you a new

1601
00:53:47,040 --> 00:53:49,240
idea come up or did you forget to say

1602
00:53:49,240 --> 00:53:51,240
something? But don't repeat what you

1603
00:53:51,240 --> 00:53:52,640
just said.

1604
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:53,080
>> It's about my

1605
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,240
>> The city has a real It's written down

1606
00:53:55,240 --> 00:53:56,520
very well at the city.

1607
00:53:56,520 --> 00:53:56,880
>> Sure.

1608
00:53:56,880 --> 00:53:57,840
>> Can I look at that?

1609
00:53:57,840 --> 00:53:59,120
>> I think the flow with this the

1610
00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:01,800
commission has debate is more kind of

1611
00:54:01,800 --> 00:54:04,240
open, whereas you could put limitations

1612
00:54:04,240 --> 00:54:05,440
and say everybody gets the opportunity

1613
00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:07,360
to speak twice for 3 minutes. If you

1614
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:10,040
guys did that, that's 42 minutes

1615
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:11,920
on a particular That's the max on a

1616
00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:13,360
particular topic. There are sometimes

1617
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,480
where it seems like people speak five or

1618
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:18,840
six times. On regular items, I think

1619
00:54:18,840 --> 00:54:20,160
that's not a huge deal, but on more

1620
00:54:20,160 --> 00:54:22,640
contentious items, it can seem to drag

1621
00:54:22,640 --> 00:54:23,640
on.

1622
00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:25,000
So just a thought there, that's

1623
00:54:25,000 --> 00:54:26,760
something that that has been raised in

1624
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,520
the past about kind of limiting time.

1625
00:54:29,520 --> 00:54:30,600
And that's how they do it up at the

1626
00:54:30,600 --> 00:54:31,520
state, that's how they do it with

1627
00:54:31,520 --> 00:54:32,960
Congress, you limit time and all those

1628
00:54:32,960 --> 00:54:33,360
rules.

1629
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,880
>> And do you have something new to add?

1630
00:54:35,880 --> 00:54:37,800
>> Correct. So just I don't know if that's

1631
00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:39,320
of interest. I'm just noting it.

1632
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:40,080
>> We said two.

1633
00:54:40,080 --> 00:54:44,240
>> And then let's also add in the fact that a lot of times we will debate

1634
00:54:44,240 --> 00:54:46,480
before there's a motion. So there'll be

1635
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,040
a presentation and then we'll have the

1636
00:54:48,040 --> 00:54:49,800
debate and then we have a motion. And

1637
00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:51,000
then we debate it again. And then we

1638
00:54:51,000 --> 00:54:52,640
have two more debates. So not only do

1639
00:54:52,640 --> 00:54:54,560
you have 42 minutes, you have another 20

1640
00:54:54,560 --> 00:54:56,880
minutes added in on top of that. So I

1641
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:57,920
mean I think that if we're going to have

1642
00:54:57,920 --> 00:54:59,400
that, maybe even including, you know,

1643
00:54:59,400 --> 00:55:01,840
that the chair will call for a motion

1644
00:55:01,840 --> 00:55:04,160
after the presentation of an item. So

1645
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,560
that we don't have debate happening

1646
00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:09,160
prior to prior to a motion.

1647
00:55:09,160 --> 00:55:10,720
>> After questions are asked.

1648
00:55:10,720 --> 00:55:11,280
>> Yeah.

1649
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:12,800
>> I think that's important cuz sometimes I

1650
00:55:12,800 --> 00:55:14,120
don't want to make a motion till I have

1651
00:55:14,120 --> 00:55:16,000
some questions answered.

1652
00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:17,080
>> That's true.

1653
00:55:17,080 --> 00:55:19,360
>> You know you don't.

1654
00:55:19,360 --> 00:55:21,280
Well, let me make a note note about

1655
00:55:21,280 --> 00:55:24,360
motions and then if we can put them in

1656
00:55:24,360 --> 00:55:26,360
there somewhere. Do we want to change

1657
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,040
that limit of debate? So right now it

1658
00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:29,480
says in general no member of the

1659
00:55:29,480 --> 00:55:30,800
commission shall be allowed to speak

1660
00:55:30,800 --> 00:55:32,600
more than once upon

1661
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:34,200
any one subject until all members have

1662
00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:35,520
had the opportunity to speak. And I

1663
00:55:35,520 --> 00:55:38,200
tried it I tried to hold to that.

1664
00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:40,400
Um not everybody always wants to speak,

1665
00:55:40,400 --> 00:55:42,280
but and then commission members shall

1666
00:55:42,280 --> 00:55:44,840
generally be limited to two statements

1667
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,400
on any issue under consideration unless

1668
00:55:47,400 --> 00:55:48,840
substitute motions are made. I would

1669
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:50,560
love to keep it to two.

1670
00:55:50,560 --> 00:55:52,920
>> I mean I think asking I think I like how

1671
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:54,600
the city does

1672
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,240
after everybody's had an opportunity to

1673
00:55:56,240 --> 00:55:58,760
speak twice, you say does anyone have

1674
00:55:58,760 --> 00:56:01,560
something to bring up or to mention that

1675
00:56:01,560 --> 00:56:04,118
hasn't already been

1676
00:56:04,118 --> 00:56:04,160
>> [clears throat]

1677
00:56:04,160 --> 00:56:05,720
>> stated.

1678
00:56:05,720 --> 00:56:07,960
You know, cuz sometimes you go when you

1679
00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:09,800
somebody has say something and it was

1680
00:56:09,800 --> 00:56:14,120
first you go, oh yeah, I remember.

1681
00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:15,600
>> Well, and then this this is not this is

1682
00:56:15,600 --> 00:56:16,920
an addition. It says the commission may

1683
00:56:16,920 --> 00:56:18,640
motion and vote to extend or limit

1684
00:56:18,640 --> 00:56:20,600
debate or discussion on a topic as

1685
00:56:20,600 --> 00:56:22,400
necessary. I feel like that's the

1686
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,040
chair's discussion. Should we just leave

1687
00:56:24,040 --> 00:56:24,440
that out?

1688
00:56:24,440 --> 00:56:25,360
>> Chair's discretion.

1689
00:56:25,360 --> 00:56:27,320
>> Instead of saying, oh, and I want to

1690
00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:29,480
make a motion to argue this some more,

1691
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,320
you know, and just let it be up to the

1692
00:56:31,320 --> 00:56:34,600
chair's commission or discretion to

1693
00:56:34,600 --> 00:56:36,480
allow more, but we should really try to

1694
00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:39,560
focus on just speaking twice.

1695
00:56:39,560 --> 00:56:41,120
Unless we have a new motion and then we

1696
00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:44,440
of course we'd have different ideas to bring up with the

1697
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:46,240
substitute motion.

1698
00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:48,800
>> That's that that is written in a I don't

1699
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:50,160
have an opinion one way or the other.

1700
00:56:50,160 --> 00:56:52,120
I'm just noting that's written to

1701
00:56:52,120 --> 00:56:54,560
override the chair.

1702
00:56:54,560 --> 00:56:55,360
That's what the intent is.

1703
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:56,840
>> Oh, but just right there and they make a

1704
00:56:56,840 --> 00:56:58,920
motion to extend to override the chair.

1705
00:56:58,920 --> 00:57:00,360
>> Correct. So, it's if the chair is like,

1706
00:57:00,360 --> 00:57:01,920
ah, that's enough on this topic, then

1707
00:57:01,920 --> 00:57:03,360
it's the body saying, hang on chair, we

1708
00:57:03,360 --> 00:57:05,720
want to talk about this more.

1709
00:57:05,720 --> 00:57:07,654
>> I think this is just cross out.

1710
00:57:07,654 --> 00:57:10,990
>> [laughter]

1711
00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:13,840
» Should we take a 3-minute break before

1712
00:57:13,840 --> 00:57:14,560
we start?

1713
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:16,280
>> Um yeah, we can take Let's finish Okay,

1714
00:57:16,280 --> 00:57:19,400
go all the way down by this. All right.

1715
00:57:19,400 --> 00:57:20,760
So, we're going to have to pick up on

1716
00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,880
page 24.

1717
00:57:22,880 --> 00:57:24,200
I just I just

1718
00:57:24,200 --> 00:57:25,640
I don't even know we have that.

1719
00:57:25,640 --> 00:57:28,000
We only have

1720
00:57:28,000 --> 00:57:29,160
I don't see any more comments. Does

1721
00:57:29,160 --> 00:57:30,200
anybody have any more comments?

1722
00:57:30,200 --> 00:57:31,200
>> I I looked down the list and I don't

1723
00:57:31,200 --> 00:57:32,600
think that was mine and I think I think

1724
00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:35,280
that was my last comment was the ones

1725
00:57:35,280 --> 00:57:36,160
that I

1726
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:37,000
>> I'm fine with it.

1727
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,080
>> That's all I thought.

1728
00:57:39,080 --> 00:57:42,110
>> I didn't think there was any more.

1729
00:57:42,120 --> 00:57:43,920
Get on to the next agenda.

1730
00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:45,040
>> Okay.

1731
00:57:45,040 --> 00:57:47,920
We are going to take a 3-minute break or

1732
00:57:47,920 --> 01:01:24,750
so.

1733
01:01:24,760 --> 01:03:17,910
» Mhm.

1734
01:03:17,920 --> 01:03:20,760
» I'd like to call order this Grand County

1735
01:03:20,760 --> 01:03:24,040
Commission meeting on June 16th at 4:03.

1736
01:03:24,040 --> 01:03:25,320
We have an attendance Commissioner

1737
01:03:25,320 --> 01:03:27,240
Martinez, Commissioner McGann,

1738
01:03:27,240 --> 01:03:28,760
Commissioner McCreery, Commissioner

1739
01:03:28,760 --> 01:03:29,880
Winfield, and myself Commissioner

1740
01:03:29,880 --> 01:03:32,080
McAdams, as well as our County Attorney

1741
01:03:32,080 --> 01:03:34,080
Steven Stocks, our Commission

1742
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:35,800
Administrator Mark Tiner, Associate

1743
01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:38,120
Commission Administrator Quinn Hall.

1744
01:03:38,120 --> 01:03:43,390
And I think our Clerk Auditor

1745
01:03:43,400 --> 01:03:46,080
And we will go ahead and have the Pledge

1746
01:03:46,080 --> 01:03:49,870
of Allegiance. Could you stand with me?

1747
01:03:49,880 --> 01:03:52,560
» I pledge allegiance to the flag of the

1748
01:03:52,560 --> 01:03:55,069
United States of America, and to the

1749
01:03:55,069 --> 01:03:56,440
[clears throat] Republic for which it

1750
01:03:56,440 --> 01:03:59,800
stands, one nation under God, and

1751
01:03:59,800 --> 01:04:02,120
indivisible, with liberty and justice

1752
01:04:02,120 --> 01:04:05,630
for all.

1753
01:04:05,640 --> 01:04:06,720
» Okay.

1754
01:04:06,720 --> 01:04:08,360
And before we get started with citizens

1755
01:04:08,360 --> 01:04:09,760
to be heard, um

1756
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:11,120
Commissioner Winfield wanted to say

1757
01:04:11,120 --> 01:04:12,240
something.

1758
01:04:12,240 --> 01:04:14,760
>> Yeah, I'd like to just do a real quick

1759
01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:15,760
tribute

1760
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:19,400
for um Andy Lewis that was um

1761
01:04:19,400 --> 01:04:21,880
we lost him in an accident

1762
01:04:21,880 --> 01:04:23,760
recently, and I just had a few things

1763
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:25,440
that I wanted to

1764
01:04:25,440 --> 01:04:27,520
comment about Andy.

1765
01:04:27,520 --> 01:04:30,000
And that is Moab lost a remarkable and

1766
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,080
adventurous spirit with the passing of

1767
01:04:32,080 --> 01:04:35,440
Andy Lewis. Andy lived life with amazing

1768
01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:38,800
passion, courage, and creativity,

1769
01:04:38,800 --> 01:04:40,920
inspiring many of us through his

1770
01:04:40,920 --> 01:04:42,800
accomplishments.

1771
01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,360
His love of the outdoors, and his

1772
01:04:45,360 --> 01:04:47,720
willingness to push boundaries embodies

1773
01:04:47,720 --> 01:05:00,430
Andy's embodied Andy's adventure.

1774
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:02,200
Rest in peace and remembered always by

1775
01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:05,520
family, friends, and the Moab community.

1776
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:09,190
Rest in peace, Andy.

1777
01:05:09,200 --> 01:05:10,360
» Thank you, Bill.

1778
01:05:10,360 --> 01:05:12,520
>> Yeah, I he was close to a lot of in a

1779
01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:14,760
lot of different ways. Um

1780
01:05:14,760 --> 01:05:16,880
I got to know Andy I don't know five or

1781
01:05:16,880 --> 01:05:18,840
six years ago and

1782
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,280
although our paths didn't always cross

1783
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:25,000
he had an amazing talent. I

1784
01:05:25,000 --> 01:05:26,400
one of the regrets I have is that I

1785
01:05:26,400 --> 01:05:27,960
didn't get to see him in the sky in

1786
01:05:27,960 --> 01:05:30,760
Castle Valley when he was

1787
01:05:30,760 --> 01:05:32,720
going across that slack line up there. I

1788
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:34,720
wouldn't love nothing better than to see

1789
01:05:34,720 --> 01:05:37,800
somebody doing that but Andy

1790
01:05:37,800 --> 01:05:41,360
he will be missed by many of us. So

1791
01:05:41,360 --> 01:05:44,990
>> So thank you.

1792
01:05:45,000 --> 01:05:47,360
» All right,

1793
01:05:47,360 --> 01:05:48,960
would anyone in the audience like to

1794
01:05:48,960 --> 01:05:51,600
come up and speak?

1795
01:05:51,600 --> 01:05:52,720
>> Corey

1796
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:54,120
>> Say your name.

1797
01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:56,600
>> Corey Boyd

1798
01:05:56,600 --> 01:05:57,920
How are you guys today?

1799
01:05:57,920 --> 01:05:58,920
>> Good.

1800
01:05:58,920 --> 01:06:00,000
>> I guess this is where I'm supposed to

1801
01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:00,320
sit.

1802
01:06:00,320 --> 01:06:02,000
>> Yeah, you can sit there or you can stand

1803
01:06:02,000 --> 01:06:04,160
whichever you're more comfortable.

1804
01:06:04,160 --> 01:06:05,800
The microphone works a little bit better

1805
01:06:05,800 --> 01:06:06,800
on the podium.

1806
01:06:06,800 --> 01:06:07,880
>> I think my

1807
01:06:07,880 --> 01:06:09,440
voice is probably loud enough anyways,

1808
01:06:09,440 --> 01:06:12,040
right? Can you all hear me?

1809
01:06:12,040 --> 01:06:15,360
Well, I'm here today to talk about

1810
01:06:15,360 --> 01:06:17,600
irrigation waters most of you know I'm a

1811
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,640
I'm an irrigation contractor landscape

1812
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:20,960
contractor.

1813
01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:22,080
Uh

1814
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:23,840
We mow 80 accounts a week we maintain

1815
01:06:23,840 --> 01:06:26,600
300 irrigations me and my wife alone.

1816
01:06:26,600 --> 01:06:28,400
In this town unfortunately this year has

1817
01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:30,280
been stressful because we've had a lot

1818
01:06:30,280 --> 01:06:31,200
of

1819
01:06:31,200 --> 01:06:32,840
I would say elderly customers that have

1820
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:34,520
called and worried about watering their

1821
01:06:34,520 --> 01:06:37,800
grass or taking care of their trees.

1822
01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,680
Um crying cuz they're reading a lot of

1823
01:06:40,680 --> 01:06:42,560
the articles and they think they've got

1824
01:06:42,560 --> 01:06:44,880
to cut all their water back and they're

1825
01:06:44,880 --> 01:06:47,840
calling me at night texting me emailing

1826
01:06:47,840 --> 01:06:50,080
me believe it or not they

1827
01:06:50,080 --> 01:06:51,760
how many 80 year olds can actually email

1828
01:06:51,760 --> 01:06:53,160
and text with their phones it's pretty

1829
01:06:53,160 --> 01:06:54,760
crazy um

1830
01:06:54,760 --> 01:06:57,080
and how late at night they're awake.

1831
01:06:57,080 --> 01:06:59,600
So

1832
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,920
My my concern is and like I told them

1833
01:07:02,920 --> 01:07:05,520
and I talked to the county water and and

1834
01:07:05,520 --> 01:07:06,720
I like I said I was born and raised

1835
01:07:06,720 --> 01:07:08,280
here. My dad was born and raised here.

1836
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:10,560
My grandparents

1837
01:07:10,560 --> 01:07:11,680
were some of the first settlers, our

1838
01:07:11,680 --> 01:07:14,600
great grandparents.

1839
01:07:14,600 --> 01:07:16,640
Our water Like I tell them, there's a

1840
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:17,920
difference between surface water and

1841
01:07:17,920 --> 01:07:20,480
ground water in Moab, for sure.

1842
01:07:20,480 --> 01:07:22,240
Surface water, yes, we struggle with

1843
01:07:22,240 --> 01:07:23,840
this year. Ground water,

1844
01:07:23,840 --> 01:07:25,680
we got we've got a lot of ground water.

1845
01:07:25,680 --> 01:07:27,240
And I I'm not going to say plenty

1846
01:07:27,240 --> 01:07:28,480
because, you know, we've got to be

1847
01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:30,560
conservative. And as a landscaper, we

1848
01:07:30,560 --> 01:07:31,760
are

1849
01:07:31,760 --> 01:07:33,400
all of our accounts 100% of them are

1850
01:07:33,400 --> 01:07:35,960
mulched. Um which counts, which people

1851
01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:37,600
don't realize a lot of that is mostly

1852
01:07:37,600 --> 01:07:39,280
water and and that actually goes back

1853
01:07:39,280 --> 01:07:40,520
into the soil.

1854
01:07:40,520 --> 01:07:41,680
Um

1855
01:07:41,680 --> 01:07:43,320
You know, some people are against lawns.

1856
01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,240
There's some there's some people that

1857
01:07:45,240 --> 01:07:46,440
are higher up in Moab that say, "Yeah,

1858
01:07:46,440 --> 01:07:48,880
we're worried because we water late late

1859
01:07:48,880 --> 01:07:50,240
at night or early in the morning so we

1860
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:52,720
don't have to hear people complain." And

1861
01:07:52,720 --> 01:07:54,360
I said, "Well, that's the way it should

1862
01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:56,040
be watered anyways."

1863
01:07:56,040 --> 01:07:57,080
You know,

1864
01:07:57,080 --> 01:07:58,960
a lot of them The state's got a lot of

1865
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:00,696
stuff wrong and and I hate to call

1866
01:08:00,696 --> 01:08:04,680
[clears throat] them out, but but they they preach about watering deep and

1867
01:08:04,680 --> 01:08:06,440
watering and I stopped it. Well, the

1868
01:08:06,440 --> 01:08:08,880
problem with that is as Moab, for

1869
01:08:08,880 --> 01:08:11,080
instance, where I live is all sand.

1870
01:08:11,080 --> 01:08:12,920
If I water three times a week, it's a

1871
01:08:12,920 --> 01:08:14,080
waste.

1872
01:08:14,080 --> 01:08:16,240
It really is. If I try to water deep,

1873
01:08:16,240 --> 01:08:18,440
the grass the grass goes dormant. It may

1874
01:08:18,440 --> 01:08:20,880
not be look it may not be dead, but it

1875
01:08:20,880 --> 01:08:23,799
goes dormant. So, if you water

1876
01:08:23,799 --> 01:08:26,279
frequently less, the roots look the

1877
01:08:26,279 --> 01:08:27,960
roots on Kentucky bluegrass

1878
01:08:27,960 --> 01:08:31,440
they go 3 to 6 in at the most. Um and

1879
01:08:31,440 --> 01:08:33,359
it's about surface temperature. Now, for

1880
01:08:33,359 --> 01:08:35,640
instance, over by the high school, they

1881
01:08:35,640 --> 01:08:37,160
can get them all them homes there can

1882
01:08:37,160 --> 01:08:38,839
water three days a week. We put

1883
01:08:38,839 --> 01:08:40,279
irrigation systems in several of them

1884
01:08:40,279 --> 01:08:42,520
over there. They've got a good clay soil

1885
01:08:42,520 --> 01:08:44,560
mixture. But there's also another

1886
01:08:44,560 --> 01:08:47,200
problem. People read that and they and

1887
01:08:47,200 --> 01:08:49,440
they hear that and they water. How many

1888
01:08:49,440 --> 01:08:53,200
hills are in Moab? So, you water and

1889
01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,120
you're on a hillside, it does no good to

1890
01:08:55,120 --> 01:08:56,799
water for an hour

1891
01:08:56,799 --> 01:08:59,680
twice a week because 90% of that water

1892
01:08:59,680 --> 01:09:01,799
is running off of that Running the

1893
01:09:01,799 --> 01:09:03,600
sidewalk or the gutter.

1894
01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:04,520
So,

1895
01:09:04,520 --> 01:09:06,839
it doesn't all one one thing does not

1896
01:09:06,839 --> 01:09:08,600
fit all. One size does not fit all on

1897
01:09:08,600 --> 01:09:09,880
this. So,

1898
01:09:09,880 --> 01:09:12,279
what I like to We we conserve water. I

1899
01:09:12,279 --> 01:09:14,520
mean, all my clients know that I will

1900
01:09:14,520 --> 01:09:16,640
adjust their water seasonally. Some of

1901
01:09:16,640 --> 01:09:17,600
them don't have us do it, but the

1902
01:09:17,600 --> 01:09:19,560
majority of them have us do it. We

1903
01:09:19,560 --> 01:09:21,720
adjust the seasons.

1904
01:09:21,720 --> 01:09:23,240
We watch them when they're every week.

1905
01:09:23,240 --> 01:09:24,279
And I like I tell them, I said, "When

1906
01:09:24,279 --> 01:09:26,040
it's 105°, the lawn's got to have

1907
01:09:26,040 --> 01:09:27,120
water."

1908
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:28,960
Fortunately, we're not a high desert.

1909
01:09:28,960 --> 01:09:31,200
We're not a desert like St. George or

1910
01:09:31,200 --> 01:09:33,799
Las Vegas or even Phoenix. People get

1911
01:09:33,799 --> 01:09:36,319
all upset about lawns and and and even

1912
01:09:36,319 --> 01:09:38,920
trees or plants in Moab when

1913
01:09:38,920 --> 01:09:40,440
you know, the three main months, June,

1914
01:09:40,440 --> 01:09:42,560
July, and August, yes, we absolutely use

1915
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:44,000
a lot of water.

1916
01:09:44,000 --> 01:09:45,160
But there are the other three months,

1917
01:09:45,160 --> 01:09:46,440
you know, we're watering two or three

1918
01:09:46,440 --> 01:09:47,960
days a week.

1919
01:09:47,960 --> 01:09:49,279
And then there's six months that we

1920
01:09:49,279 --> 01:09:51,040
should be

1921
01:09:51,040 --> 01:09:52,799
preserving or keeping water, storing

1922
01:09:52,799 --> 01:09:57,760
water. And I think that's the biggest problem we have in Moab.

1923
01:09:57,760 --> 01:09:59,240
My dad worked on Ken's Lake when they

1924
01:09:59,240 --> 01:10:00,800
built it. They knew it wasn't big enough

1925
01:10:00,800 --> 01:10:01,880
then

1926
01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:04,000
to supply this valley with water.

1927
01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:05,440
We we don't have a water problem. We

1928
01:10:05,440 --> 01:10:07,520
have a shortage problem. We we need to

1929
01:10:07,520 --> 01:10:09,440
store water. And Ken's Lake it needs to

1930
01:10:09,440 --> 01:10:10,960
be three times the size or we should

1931
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:12,480
look at actually damming it and make it

1932
01:10:12,480 --> 01:10:14,520
bigger than they originally thought.

1933
01:10:14,520 --> 01:10:15,440
Um

1934
01:10:15,440 --> 01:10:17,960
we could we could actually fix most of

1935
01:10:17,960 --> 01:10:20,000
the flooding in Moab if we could control

1936
01:10:20,000 --> 01:10:21,840
that canyon that comes in here. If we

1937
01:10:21,840 --> 01:10:23,960
could control that water, we could store

1938
01:10:23,960 --> 01:10:25,720
it. And when we have years like this

1939
01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:27,840
where we don't have as much runoff, we

1940
01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:29,960
have storage of water. As we know, Ken's

1941
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:33,800
Lake's at 30 or 40% right now. And and

1942
01:10:33,800 --> 01:10:35,640
we don't have that many clients. I mean,

1943
01:10:35,640 --> 01:10:37,280
we probably have out of our 80, there's

1944
01:10:37,280 --> 01:10:39,400
probably 10 or 15 that are on Ken's Lake

1945
01:10:39,400 --> 01:10:42,000
water. And and that's a problem.

1946
01:10:42,000 --> 01:10:43,600
And I'm not against watering with city

1947
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:45,440
or county water, but the fact of the

1948
01:10:45,440 --> 01:10:46,720
matter is we should be looking at

1949
01:10:46,720 --> 01:10:51,200
infrastructure for watering landscape. Why are we Why

1950
01:10:51,200 --> 01:10:53,000
are we not looking at making Ken's Lake

1951
01:10:53,000 --> 01:10:55,520
bigger or damming and creating

1952
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:58,360
a secondary system for that instead of

1953
01:10:58,360 --> 01:11:00,960
using treated water in a plant that's

1954
01:11:00,960 --> 01:11:02,760
treated that doesn't really need it. And

1955
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:04,200
another thing is the lawns that are

1956
01:11:04,200 --> 01:11:05,640
watered with with

1957
01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,680
Ken's Lake or or wells do much better

1958
01:11:08,680 --> 01:11:09,840
than they do with the lawns that are

1959
01:11:09,840 --> 01:11:11,960
watered with with city water

1960
01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:13,840
or county water. They just they they

1961
01:11:13,840 --> 01:11:16,000
just do.

1962
01:11:16,000 --> 01:11:17,520
A lot of lawns that are watered well

1963
01:11:17,520 --> 01:11:18,920
water out of They don't need any

1964
01:11:18,920 --> 01:11:20,280
fertilizer [clears throat] once a year,

1965
01:11:20,280 --> 01:11:22,720
you know, where some need to be four

1966
01:11:22,720 --> 01:11:24,480
times a year. And a lot of it's soil or

1967
01:11:24,480 --> 01:11:26,720
water, but the city water's treated.

1968
01:11:26,720 --> 01:11:27,920
That's that's a fact, you know, there's

1969
01:11:27,920 --> 01:11:30,640
a lot of nutrients in rainwater. I mean

1970
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,840
lawns you guys will know it. Lawns can

1971
01:11:32,840 --> 01:11:34,000
be struggling and then it rains and the

1972
01:11:34,000 --> 01:11:36,040
lawns and lawns just boom, they're

1973
01:11:36,040 --> 01:11:37,960
green. And that usually makes us go, oh

1974
01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:39,800
no, we're going to be this is going to

1975
01:11:39,800 --> 01:11:41,480
be a hard week or when it's rained a

1976
01:11:41,480 --> 01:11:46,510
lot. So

1977
01:11:46,520 --> 01:11:47,480
» We appreciate it.

1978
01:11:47,480 --> 01:11:47,960
>> Yeah.

1979
01:11:47,960 --> 01:11:49,360
>> And I think that that's great

1980
01:11:49,360 --> 01:11:50,440
information. Thank you.

1981
01:11:50,440 --> 01:11:52,360
>> Thank you.

1982
01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:53,560
>> All right, do we have anyone else in the

1983
01:11:53,560 --> 01:12:03,590
audience that would like to come speak?

1984
01:12:03,600 --> 01:12:05,000
» Kevin Clyde

1985
01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:06,980
I live out on Easy Street. I

1986
01:12:06,980 --> 01:12:08,720
[clears throat] serve on the Grand

1987
01:12:08,720 --> 01:12:11,200
County Water Conservancy District Board.

1988
01:12:11,200 --> 01:12:12,875
Thank you, Corey, for your

1989
01:12:12,875 --> 01:12:13,160
>> [laughter]

1990
01:12:13,160 --> 01:12:14,560
>> kind words.

1991
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:15,680
Uh I

1992
01:12:15,680 --> 01:12:19,680
want to thank you as our commission.

1993
01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:22,200
I know that this is a very difficult job

1994
01:12:22,200 --> 01:12:23,760
that you have.

1995
01:12:23,760 --> 01:12:27,120
I hear opinions from all sides coming at

1996
01:12:27,120 --> 01:12:28,200
you.

1997
01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,680
And you are our elected representatives,

1998
01:12:30,680 --> 01:12:32,680
and I believe that you all do your very

1999
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,480
best to represent us,

2000
01:12:35,480 --> 01:12:38,560
to think through these issues, and uh to

2001
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:41,000
make our county work.

2002
01:12:41,000 --> 01:12:44,200
The county is a very complex place.

2003
01:12:44,200 --> 01:12:46,440
If you just think about water,

2004
01:12:46,440 --> 01:12:48,720
I can think of 10 or 15 projects that

2005
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:52,600
you have to learn about and approve

2006
01:12:52,600 --> 01:12:54,880
or disapprove in order to make that

2007
01:12:54,880 --> 01:12:55,960
work.

2008
01:12:55,960 --> 01:12:57,200
There are just so many things that you

2009
01:12:57,200 --> 01:12:59,600
have to juggle to do that.

2010
01:12:59,600 --> 01:13:02,040
I recognize that you all have jobs or

2011
01:13:02,040 --> 01:13:04,040
you have personal lives

2012
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:05,120
and

2013
01:13:05,120 --> 01:13:06,280
this

2014
01:13:06,280 --> 01:13:08,440
commission is not meant to be

2015
01:13:08,440 --> 01:13:10,800
a full-time job, but I think it is.

2016
01:13:10,800 --> 01:13:12,360
And then you all have full-time jobs

2017
01:13:12,360 --> 01:13:13,720
besides that.

2018
01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:15,800
And I take my hat off to you.

2019
01:13:15,800 --> 01:13:19,040
I know that you take a lot of flak.

2020
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:23,280
And I'm uh glad to say that I support

2021
01:13:23,280 --> 01:13:25,280
you even though

2022
01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:26,680
there are many different opinions on

2023
01:13:26,680 --> 01:13:28,400
this commission.

2024
01:13:28,400 --> 01:13:29,240
Thank you.

2025
01:13:29,240 --> 01:13:33,110
>> Thank you. Thank you.

2026
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:34,320
Do we have anyone else in the audience

2027
01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:38,310
who would like to come speak?

2028
01:13:38,320 --> 01:13:39,840
What about online?

2029
01:13:39,840 --> 01:13:41,400
>> We have those responding online.

2030
01:13:41,400 --> 01:13:43,040
>> No one's there. Okay.

2031
01:13:43,040 --> 01:13:44,640
All right. Any

2032
01:13:44,640 --> 01:13:46,360
We're going to go ahead and move along.

2033
01:13:46,360 --> 01:13:48,200
So, our first

2034
01:13:48,200 --> 01:13:50,240
order of business today is the public

2035
01:13:50,240 --> 01:13:52,560
hearing. So, we have

2036
01:13:52,560 --> 01:13:54,840
Andrew Jackson

2037
01:13:54,840 --> 01:13:56,560
come up and

2038
01:13:56,560 --> 01:13:59,000
open up this public hearing for the Sims

2039
01:13:59,000 --> 01:14:00,720
rezone.

2040
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:02,760
This hearing will be open to receive

2041
01:14:02,760 --> 01:14:05,200
written comments until 5:00 p.m. on

2042
01:14:05,200 --> 01:14:07,640
Wednesday, June 24th. We will also take

2043
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:09,480
public comments tonight as well if

2044
01:14:09,480 --> 01:14:12,240
there's anyone for that.

2045
01:14:12,240 --> 01:14:13,440
>> And I don't know if

2046
01:14:13,440 --> 01:14:15,720
we'll do that at 6:00 or

2047
01:14:15,720 --> 01:14:17,440
if you guys can just but I'm happy to

2048
01:14:17,440 --> 01:14:18,720
talk about it right now.

2049
01:14:18,720 --> 01:14:20,760
>> That said, we can So, one thing that we

2050
01:14:20,760 --> 01:14:24,280
have to do after 6:00 is the Anything

2051
01:14:24,280 --> 01:14:26,080
that has to do with our budget we have

2052
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:28,200
to have after 6:00 and so as long as we

2053
01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,520
post it that if we can do it at 4:00 and

2054
01:14:30,520 --> 01:14:31,960
I I believe it's been posted that way.

2055
01:14:31,960 --> 01:14:34,680
So, we are good for 6:00 or 4:00.

2056
01:14:34,680 --> 01:14:35,760
>> Perfect.

2057
01:14:35,760 --> 01:14:37,800
Uh this proposal would change the zoning

2058
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:41,240
of the 180 property along Highway 191

2059
01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:43,280
from a mix of highway commercial general

2060
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:46,320
business to entirely highway commercial.

2061
01:14:46,320 --> 01:14:48,320
The change eliminates split zoning on

2062
01:14:48,320 --> 01:14:50,040
the parcel, creates consistent

2063
01:14:50,040 --> 01:14:52,640
development standards, and aligns with

2064
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:54,280
the county's

2065
01:14:54,280 --> 01:14:56,480
general plan and surrounding highway

2066
01:14:56,480 --> 01:14:59,320
oriented commercial uses. Staff

2067
01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:01,240
recommends approval. Obviously, this is

2068
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:03,240
just opening up of the

2069
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:05,200
public comment period. Planning

2070
01:15:05,200 --> 01:15:06,840
Commission did

2071
01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:11,990
recommend approval of this.

2072
01:15:12,000 --> 01:15:13,560
» Okay.

2073
01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:14,720
Do we have anyone in the audience that's

2074
01:15:14,720 --> 01:15:19,390
here to speak on this particular item?

2075
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:20,600
You're having me.

2076
01:15:20,600 --> 01:15:23,120
So, we'll ask our questions next.

2077
01:15:23,120 --> 01:15:24,920
meeting, we'll be voting on this on

2078
01:15:24,920 --> 01:15:27,600
our next meeting.

2079
01:15:27,600 --> 01:15:29,480
All right. So, we'll move along to

2080
01:15:29,480 --> 01:15:30,760
>> This one will remain open, right?

2081
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:32,040
>> I did I read that first.

2082
01:15:32,040 --> 01:15:32,360
>> That's right.

2083
01:15:32,360 --> 01:15:34,160
>> Yeah.

2084
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:37,320
Public comment till Wednesday, June 24th

2085
01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:40,670
at 5:00 p.m.

2086
01:15:40,680 --> 01:15:44,480
Next, we have a department report by our

2087
01:15:44,480 --> 01:15:46,840
Personnel Services Department. Tess

2088
01:15:46,840 --> 01:15:56,830
Barger, would you like to come in?

2089
01:15:56,840 --> 01:15:58,280
So quiet in here today.

2090
01:15:58,280 --> 01:15:58,852
>> I know.

2091
01:15:58,852 --> 01:16:00,560
>> [laughter]

2092
01:16:00,560 --> 01:16:01,760
>> Something's wrong. I can almost hear

2093
01:16:01,760 --> 01:16:03,360
myself think.

2094
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:04,840
Um

2095
01:16:04,840 --> 01:16:07,800
All right, wonderful. Well, I I have a

2096
01:16:07,800 --> 01:16:09,440
very um

2097
01:16:09,440 --> 01:16:11,200
concise presentation because I did want

2098
01:16:11,200 --> 01:16:15,840
to be conscientious of of the time. So,

2099
01:16:15,840 --> 01:16:17,880
what what I would love to do is

2100
01:16:17,880 --> 01:16:20,200
essentially go through the information

2101
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:21,680
that I felt would probably hopefully be

2102
01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:23,880
most most interesting

2103
01:16:23,880 --> 01:16:25,520
to the commission to hear in regards to

2104
01:16:25,520 --> 01:16:26,840
updates to the Personnel Services

2105
01:16:26,840 --> 01:16:28,120
Department. And then, of course, any

2106
01:16:28,120 --> 01:16:30,200
questions that you all have along the

2107
01:16:30,200 --> 01:16:32,480
way, please feel free to ask.

2108
01:16:32,480 --> 01:16:34,440
And then, of course, more than happy to

2109
01:16:34,440 --> 01:16:36,280
answer any questions that you have at

2110
01:16:36,280 --> 01:16:38,280
the at the end if that sounds like a a

2111
01:16:38,280 --> 01:16:40,640
plan.

2112
01:16:40,640 --> 01:16:44,320
So, first to start off at a glance, um

2113
01:16:44,320 --> 01:16:47,360
at Green County, we currently have 225

2114
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:50,960
folks on payroll with us. This includes

2115
01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,480
full-time, part-time, on-call, and

2116
01:16:53,480 --> 01:16:56,360
elected officials. We also do payroll

2117
01:16:56,360 --> 01:16:59,120
processing for the road, uh mosquito

2118
01:16:59,120 --> 01:17:00,480
district, as well as the sanitary

2119
01:17:00,480 --> 01:17:02,160
district.

2120
01:17:02,160 --> 01:17:04,400
And um

2121
01:17:04,400 --> 01:17:08,160
currently, we have eight posted

2122
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:10,120
vacancies

2123
01:17:10,120 --> 01:17:13,440
and 14 unposted vacancies. So, these

2124
01:17:13,440 --> 01:17:16,400
unposted vacancies are those positions

2125
01:17:16,400 --> 01:17:19,520
that would fall into the hiring freeze

2126
01:17:19,520 --> 01:17:20,880
category.

2127
01:17:20,880 --> 01:17:22,800
Um two of those positions have been

2128
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:24,480
requested and approved, but are not

2129
01:17:24,480 --> 01:17:26,400
currently in the backfilled just due to

2130
01:17:26,400 --> 01:17:28,200
capacity of the department, and that's

2131
01:17:28,200 --> 01:17:30,800
the library department. And those hours

2132
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,880
are covered by other part-time staff. Um

2133
01:17:33,880 --> 01:17:36,640
but, the remainder of those um unposted

2134
01:17:36,640 --> 01:17:39,440
vacancies are positions that the

2135
01:17:39,440 --> 01:17:41,480
department heads have not yet come

2136
01:17:41,480 --> 01:17:44,440
before the commission with to request.

2137
01:17:44,440 --> 01:17:47,280
And that kind of perfectly segues into

2138
01:17:47,280 --> 01:17:49,000
the the year-to-date updates that I

2139
01:17:49,000 --> 01:17:50,880
wanted to provide. So, in regards to

2140
01:17:50,880 --> 01:17:53,960
that hiring freeze, um again, I I really

2141
01:17:53,960 --> 01:17:56,880
want to to give um credit and

2142
01:17:56,880 --> 01:17:59,560
appreciation to the department heads of

2143
01:17:59,560 --> 01:18:02,800
the frozen positions um that have not

2144
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:05,000
been brought forth. They've been worked

2145
01:18:05,000 --> 01:18:08,120
really hard um to figure out other means

2146
01:18:08,120 --> 01:18:11,160
of covering those responsibilities

2147
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:15,400
and needs in order to to not need to um

2148
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:17,440
up up to this point come before you all

2149
01:18:17,440 --> 01:18:19,000
requesting those.

2150
01:18:19,000 --> 01:18:21,640
And so, specifically, um there are a

2151
01:18:21,640 --> 01:18:23,080
number of fuels reduction both of

2152
01:18:23,080 --> 01:18:25,040
full-time and seasonal positions within

2153
01:18:25,040 --> 01:18:27,640
weeds, our IT support technician

2154
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:29,680
position, again the two library clerk

2155
01:18:29,680 --> 01:18:31,840
positions I mentioned, the assistant

2156
01:18:31,840 --> 01:18:34,520
road supervisor, as well as a a laborer

2157
01:18:34,520 --> 01:18:36,000
operator position within the road

2158
01:18:36,000 --> 01:18:37,560
department,

2159
01:18:37,560 --> 01:18:39,600
one ARFF technician,

2160
01:18:39,600 --> 01:18:41,520
um airside technician position at the

2161
01:18:41,520 --> 01:18:44,000
airport, a part-time jail nurse

2162
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:46,480
position, uh Moab Office of Tourism

2163
01:18:46,480 --> 01:18:49,080
Assistant Director position, so Nick

2164
01:18:49,080 --> 01:18:51,560
Soletta, our current director's former

2165
01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:52,429
position,

2166
01:18:52,429 --> 01:18:52,840
>> [cough]

2167
01:18:52,840 --> 01:18:55,040
>> part-time engineering technician, as

2168
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:57,560
well as associate planner positions

2169
01:18:57,560 --> 01:18:58,640
within the planning and zoning

2170
01:18:58,640 --> 01:19:02,550
department.

2171
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:04,600
I also wanted to to check in about our

2172
01:19:04,600 --> 01:19:06,600
reduced hours pilot, as we talked about

2173
01:19:06,600 --> 01:19:09,240
our year-to-date um updates.

2174
01:19:09,240 --> 01:19:11,440
So, as of May 1st, we had saved

2175
01:19:11,440 --> 01:19:13,760
approximately $20,000 of the general

2176
01:19:13,760 --> 01:19:16,800
fund specifically related to uh reduced

2177
01:19:16,800 --> 01:19:18,480
hours pilot. So, again, this was the

2178
01:19:18,480 --> 01:19:21,960
pilot that the commission agreed for us

2179
01:19:21,960 --> 01:19:23,960
to try this year of allowing the staff

2180
01:19:23,960 --> 01:19:27,200
to work lower than 40 hours per week or

2181
01:19:27,200 --> 01:19:30,640
80 hours per pay period. Um

2182
01:19:30,640 --> 01:19:32,400
We have approximately 10 staff that have

2183
01:19:32,400 --> 01:19:35,160
opted in to this, and I've not yet

2184
01:19:35,160 --> 01:19:38,160
surveyed staff interest in continuing

2185
01:19:38,160 --> 01:19:40,440
this into 2027.

2186
01:19:40,440 --> 01:19:41,600
Um I know that I can speak for my

2187
01:19:41,600 --> 01:19:44,440
department that we do plan to uh request

2188
01:19:44,440 --> 01:19:46,520
and and put our salary and benefits

2189
01:19:46,520 --> 01:19:48,320
budget together requesting that we do go

2190
01:19:48,320 --> 01:19:51,600
back up to 2080 hours of full-time

2191
01:19:51,600 --> 01:19:54,880
40-hour a week hours in 2027.

2192
01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:58,840
Um but closer to next year, I'll I'll go

2193
01:19:58,840 --> 01:20:00,440
ahead and survey staff and see whether

2194
01:20:00,440 --> 01:20:01,920
or not this is as well as department

2195
01:20:01,920 --> 01:20:03,200
heads and see whether or not this is

2196
01:20:03,200 --> 01:20:05,680
something that they feel um

2197
01:20:05,680 --> 01:20:08,160
doesn't cause any negative impacts or

2198
01:20:08,160 --> 01:20:12,240
maybe even has some positive impacts for staff who have maybe some better

2199
01:20:12,240 --> 01:20:13,680
flexibility

2200
01:20:13,680 --> 01:20:14,880
um in their schedules because they

2201
01:20:14,880 --> 01:20:17,560
aren't required to get to that 40 hours.

2202
01:20:17,560 --> 01:20:19,790
Um

2203
01:20:19,800 --> 01:20:22,200
Additionally, in year-to-date updates,

2204
01:20:22,200 --> 01:20:24,400
so our employee handbook revision phase

2205
01:20:24,400 --> 01:20:28,160
one was completed um officially in May,

2206
01:20:28,160 --> 01:20:30,440
so we were finally able to wrap that up.

2207
01:20:30,440 --> 01:20:32,000
Phase one of the employee handbook

2208
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,640
update, and as a reminder

2209
01:20:34,640 --> 01:20:36,440
our handbook had not been updated since

2210
01:20:36,440 --> 01:20:40,960
2014. Um, we had had resolutions adopted

2211
01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:42,960
since then, of course, but again not not

2212
01:20:42,960 --> 01:20:45,040
comprehensively updated our employee

2213
01:20:45,040 --> 01:20:47,760
handbook. So, phase one of that revision

2214
01:20:47,760 --> 01:20:50,480
included consolidating all of those

2215
01:20:50,480 --> 01:20:53,960
resolutions, updating terminology, and

2216
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:57,800
including any um new state code that had

2217
01:20:57,800 --> 01:21:02,350
changed or were in addition.

2218
01:21:02,360 --> 01:21:06,310
Do you have any any questions so far?

2219
01:21:06,320 --> 01:21:08,400
Okay, wonderful.

2220
01:21:08,400 --> 01:21:10,680
Um, so as we look forward and I think

2221
01:21:10,680 --> 01:21:12,840
that this is a first really important

2222
01:21:12,840 --> 01:21:14,920
part of any department update.

2223
01:21:14,920 --> 01:21:17,880
Um, so the topics that I wanted to to

2224
01:21:17,880 --> 01:21:20,840
briefly discuss in that forward look

2225
01:21:20,840 --> 01:21:22,680
that are conversations happening within

2226
01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:24,680
my department as well as agency-wide

2227
01:21:24,680 --> 01:21:27,000
that people come to my department with

2228
01:21:27,000 --> 01:21:30,600
include reconsideration of the midyear

2229
01:21:30,600 --> 01:21:32,840
or of of the cost of living proposal.

2230
01:21:32,840 --> 01:21:34,720
So, um

2231
01:21:34,720 --> 01:21:35,526
during

2232
01:21:35,526 --> 01:21:35,640
>> [clears throat]

2233
01:21:35,640 --> 01:21:38,840
>> the end of budget season last year,

2234
01:21:38,840 --> 01:21:40,400
um it was discussed that there would be

2235
01:21:40,400 --> 01:21:43,280
an an attempt to reconsider a cost of

2236
01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:45,520
living adjustment for staff at the

2237
01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:49,560
midyear point. Um, so my department is

2238
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:52,040
um has the information together and and

2239
01:21:52,040 --> 01:21:54,480
at any point whenever the commission is

2240
01:21:54,480 --> 01:21:55,080
um

2241
01:21:55,080 --> 01:21:57,960
able to consider that proposal, we

2242
01:21:57,960 --> 01:22:00,200
happily are are able to present that

2243
01:22:00,200 --> 01:22:02,560
information to you all. So, that is

2244
01:22:02,560 --> 01:22:04,920
still with the 2026 Social Security

2245
01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:07,840
Administration's 2.8% COLA.

2246
01:22:07,840 --> 01:22:09,480
And the

2247
01:22:09,480 --> 01:22:11,560
just to let you all know um

2248
01:22:11,560 --> 01:22:13,160
in advance in terms of how this year is

2249
01:22:13,160 --> 01:22:15,560
trending, currently while the Social

2250
01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:17,280
Security Administration doesn't actually

2251
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:19,120
come out formally with their announced

2252
01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:21,320
COLA until approximately October every

2253
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:27,800
year, they are tracking that it will be between 3.8 to 4.7%

2254
01:22:27,800 --> 01:22:30,280
this year. And so that um is directly

2255
01:22:30,280 --> 01:22:33,000
based off of

2256
01:22:33,000 --> 01:22:36,160
consumer reports and and labor reports

2257
01:22:36,160 --> 01:22:41,280
at the federal level. And essentially it mirrors what what type of inflation

2258
01:22:41,280 --> 01:22:42,040
impacts.

2259
01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:43,960
>> Who said 3.8 to 4.

2260
01:22:43,960 --> 01:22:47,560
>> 3.8 to 4.7 for 2027. And again, it it

2261
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:49,400
fluctuates. I've checked on it a few

2262
01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:51,760
times in in the last month and it

2263
01:22:51,760 --> 01:22:55,160
they've they've kept within that track.

2264
01:22:55,160 --> 01:22:56,840
It could have, however, you know,

2265
01:22:56,840 --> 01:23:00,667
certainly change before October.

2266
01:23:00,677 --> 01:23:00,920
» [clears throat]

2267
01:23:00,920 --> 01:23:02,480
>> Stephen has a comment question.

2268
01:23:02,480 --> 01:23:04,480
>> good question. Would it be possible to

2269
01:23:04,480 --> 01:23:06,360
know at a later date, not necessarily

2270
01:23:06,360 --> 01:23:07,280
now,

2271
01:23:07,280 --> 01:23:09,000
what the total would be

2272
01:23:09,000 --> 01:23:10,680
to pay for this whole year for the Cola

2273
01:23:10,680 --> 01:23:12,640
amount or for like going forward? I

2274
01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:15,720
don't know what those two amounts maybe that's that

2275
01:23:15,720 --> 01:23:16,960
information at a future date would be

2276
01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:18,920
helpful information to know what.

2277
01:23:18,920 --> 01:23:19,880
>> So providing

2278
01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:20,320
>> Are you guys doing

2279
01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:23,480
>> on a future addendum? Yes. Yes. And and

2280
01:23:23,480 --> 01:23:26,400
I'm not sure I apologize if I missed

2281
01:23:26,400 --> 01:23:28,080
part of your question whether you were

2282
01:23:28,080 --> 01:23:30,240
curious about what the projections would

2283
01:23:30,240 --> 01:23:32,840
look like for a retroactive cost of

2284
01:23:32,840 --> 01:23:34,120
living adjustment. That's specifically

2285
01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:34,840
what you were

2286
01:23:34,840 --> 01:23:39,000
>> Both. Just just to know, I mean, for the price tag. Right.

2287
01:23:39,000 --> 01:23:39,960
>> The different scenarios would be

2288
01:23:39,960 --> 01:23:42,920
available. Yes. Yes, absolutely.

2289
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:44,880
>> I think we'll have that discussion next

2290
01:23:44,880 --> 01:23:48,000
month at one of the meetings next month.

2291
01:23:48,000 --> 01:23:49,360
You'll have the information then.

2292
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:52,200
>> Great. Thank you.

2293
01:23:52,200 --> 01:23:55,680
Additionally, uh another intent that was

2294
01:23:55,680 --> 01:23:57,160
shared during budget season was

2295
01:23:57,160 --> 01:23:58,880
reconsideration of position

2296
01:23:58,880 --> 01:24:01,600
reclassification proposals that were not

2297
01:24:01,600 --> 01:24:04,920
approved during budget season. And so

2298
01:24:04,920 --> 01:24:06,720
just to to provide an update on that, we

2299
01:24:06,720 --> 01:24:08,760
do still have that information. There

2300
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,200
are also some department heads that have

2301
01:24:11,200 --> 01:24:13,560
identified other needs for

2302
01:24:13,560 --> 01:24:15,160
reclassifications within their

2303
01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:17,440
departments. And so

2304
01:24:17,440 --> 01:24:19,000
provided me that information. Again,

2305
01:24:19,000 --> 01:24:21,360
that's information that that I can have

2306
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:22,840
prepared and ready to present to the

2307
01:24:22,840 --> 01:24:24,560
commission at whatever point you're able

2308
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:26,160
to

2309
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:29,360
you know to review it and also if if

2310
01:24:29,360 --> 01:24:31,400
that is not a possibility prior to

2311
01:24:31,400 --> 01:24:35,400
budget season in preparation for 27 then

2312
01:24:35,400 --> 01:24:36,960
we luckily have been able to do our

2313
01:24:36,960 --> 01:24:39,000
homework a little in advance and we will

2314
01:24:39,000 --> 01:24:42,160
be ready for 2027 budget conversations

2315
01:24:42,160 --> 01:24:45,150
in that regard.

2316
01:24:45,160 --> 01:24:47,560
Next is my department is looking at

2317
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:49,640
doing an employee benefits analysis and

2318
01:24:49,640 --> 01:24:52,520
so specifically how we are planning to

2319
01:24:52,520 --> 01:24:56,880
conduct this is we've drafted a survey

2320
01:24:56,880 --> 01:24:58,400
that is almost ready for distribution

2321
01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:00,400
amongst our staff and in the survey we

2322
01:25:00,400 --> 01:25:02,040
will be collecting feedback from staff

2323
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:03,240
about their satisfaction with our

2324
01:25:03,240 --> 01:25:04,840
current benefits

2325
01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:07,080
if rates go up so our renewal rate as

2326
01:25:07,080 --> 01:25:09,560
you all as you all know last year

2327
01:25:09,560 --> 01:25:12,040
we did receive an increase from Cigna

2328
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:14,320
and there were a lot of considerations

2329
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,240
of what do we do do we change the plans

2330
01:25:16,240 --> 01:25:19,880
do we change do we change who we are or

2331
01:25:19,880 --> 01:25:21,400
we're getting our health insurance

2332
01:25:21,400 --> 01:25:22,480
through

2333
01:25:22,480 --> 01:25:25,720
and so we are going to be

2334
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:26,960
receiving some of that feedback from the

2335
01:25:26,960 --> 01:25:28,760
staff on if we receive another renewal

2336
01:25:28,760 --> 01:25:30,120
and we need to look at making some

2337
01:25:30,120 --> 01:25:32,480
changes what changes feel most

2338
01:25:32,480 --> 01:25:35,200
accessible to you is it that we increase

2339
01:25:35,200 --> 01:25:36,840
insurance premiums is it that we

2340
01:25:36,840 --> 01:25:38,880
increase deductibles and out of pocket

2341
01:25:38,880 --> 01:25:40,920
maximums is it that we look at can we go

2342
01:25:40,920 --> 01:25:43,920
out to bid and we look at some

2343
01:25:43,920 --> 01:25:45,280
you know some other options aside from

2344
01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:49,320
Cigna we'll also be surveying um

2345
01:25:49,320 --> 01:25:51,880
staff openness and and potential

2346
01:25:51,880 --> 01:25:54,240
utilization of things like if we offer

2347
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:57,160
an incentive to opt out of our benefits

2348
01:25:57,160 --> 01:26:00,880
and if we open up insurance to domestic

2349
01:26:00,880 --> 01:26:02,960
partners and their dependents who would

2350
01:26:02,960 --> 01:26:05,280
be opting into that so just to try to

2351
01:26:05,280 --> 01:26:07,920
get an an assessment of of what those

2352
01:26:07,920 --> 01:26:09,480
impacts would look like if we if we did

2353
01:26:09,480 --> 01:26:13,550
adopt any of those changes.

2354
01:26:13,560 --> 01:26:17,600
Um two other one other thing that uh do

2355
01:26:17,600 --> 01:26:19,560
plan on executing and then one other one

2356
01:26:19,560 --> 01:26:21,280
other item I'll I'll kind of give to you

2357
01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:24,680
as a as something to to consider. Um one

2358
01:26:24,680 --> 01:26:26,560
additional item that we are working on

2359
01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:28,520
is outlining our plan for phase two of

2360
01:26:28,520 --> 01:26:30,000
the employee handbook. So again, our

2361
01:26:30,000 --> 01:26:31,680
phase one was essentially just getting

2362
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:33,640
it caught up-to-date.

2363
01:26:33,640 --> 01:26:36,040
Phase two, however, is when um we are

2364
01:26:36,040 --> 01:26:38,640
looking at getting staff feedback and

2365
01:26:38,640 --> 01:26:40,920
making bigger changes and modifications

2366
01:26:40,920 --> 01:26:42,320
to the handbook.

2367
01:26:42,320 --> 01:26:45,200
While I don't have the start to finish

2368
01:26:45,200 --> 01:26:47,280
outlined, I have idea of how I would

2369
01:26:47,280 --> 01:26:49,520
like us to do that including

2370
01:26:49,520 --> 01:26:50,680
um

2371
01:26:50,680 --> 01:26:53,160
forming a committee, going through the

2372
01:26:53,160 --> 01:26:54,680
handbook section by section, and then

2373
01:26:54,680 --> 01:26:56,760
per section receiving staff feedback so

2374
01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:58,200
that they can provide

2375
01:26:58,200 --> 01:27:00,040
um more specific feedback related to

2376
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:01,680
whatever the policies are that we're

2377
01:27:01,680 --> 01:27:03,840
evaluating during that time period. Our

2378
01:27:03,840 --> 01:27:06,640
employee handbook is 100 pages long. It

2379
01:27:06,640 --> 01:27:08,600
will be a long process, but we want to

2380
01:27:08,600 --> 01:27:12,360
do it thoroughly as well as put um

2381
01:27:12,360 --> 01:27:15,160
expectations in place for how frequently

2382
01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:17,960
we do a very comprehensive review of it.

2383
01:27:17,960 --> 01:27:19,480
should be

2384
01:27:19,480 --> 01:27:21,440
um reviewed at least annually by my

2385
01:27:21,440 --> 01:27:23,560
department, and the recommendation is

2386
01:27:23,560 --> 01:27:25,960
bi-annually through legal review. So

2387
01:27:25,960 --> 01:27:28,400
those are So those are some um more

2388
01:27:28,400 --> 01:27:30,120
straightforward reviews, of course, but

2389
01:27:30,120 --> 01:27:31,360
again, when we look at it through more

2390
01:27:31,360 --> 01:27:33,320
of that comprehensive lens,

2391
01:27:33,320 --> 01:27:34,840
um I'd like to do a little bit more

2392
01:27:34,840 --> 01:27:36,000
research and come up with a better

2393
01:27:36,000 --> 01:27:37,400
recommendation for how often we should

2394
01:27:37,400 --> 01:27:40,840
be doing a big overhaul like this.

2395
01:27:40,840 --> 01:27:43,000
Um the last item that I will give you

2396
01:27:43,000 --> 01:27:45,320
all as as something to to take away from

2397
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:47,800
this is um

2398
01:27:47,800 --> 01:27:50,360
the potential for uh needing to do a

2399
01:27:50,360 --> 01:27:53,640
compensation survey for Grand County.

2400
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:54,960
The last time that we did a

2401
01:27:54,960 --> 01:27:56,880
comprehensive compensation survey where

2402
01:27:56,880 --> 01:27:58,720
we looked at our pay plan as well as all

2403
01:27:58,720 --> 01:28:00,960
the compensation ranges for positions

2404
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,800
was in 2021, and

2405
01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:06,120
um those changes were adopted going into

2406
01:28:06,120 --> 01:28:07,760
2022.

2407
01:28:07,760 --> 01:28:10,520
Um so we have have not completed that

2408
01:28:10,520 --> 01:28:12,040
for 5 years.

2409
01:28:12,040 --> 01:28:13,840
Um this comes up more and more often and

2410
01:28:13,840 --> 01:28:15,560
I think it will continue to. I think

2411
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:20,110
that we see it through um,

2412
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:22,560
struggles such as being able to backfill

2413
01:28:22,560 --> 01:28:25,200
some of our higher level positions um,

2414
01:28:25,200 --> 01:28:26,400
and a lot of feedback that we've

2415
01:28:26,400 --> 01:28:28,760
received from the

2416
01:28:28,760 --> 01:28:30,520
both candidates as well as both the

2417
01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:32,880
search firms that we've worked with is

2418
01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:36,280
that our pay ranges were not um,

2419
01:28:36,280 --> 01:28:38,080
competitive in the way that they needed

2420
01:28:38,080 --> 01:28:40,840
to be to get the type of, you know, to

2421
01:28:40,840 --> 01:28:43,000
bring in as many applicants as as we

2422
01:28:43,000 --> 01:28:44,320
hoped to.

2423
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:46,720
Um, so whether that compensation survey

2424
01:28:46,720 --> 01:28:49,120
validates that we're doing a a great job

2425
01:28:49,120 --> 01:28:50,600
in in certain aspects or in certain

2426
01:28:50,600 --> 01:28:52,240
departments in in paying competitive

2427
01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:54,320
wages or if it shows us gaps that we

2428
01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:55,600
need to

2429
01:28:55,600 --> 01:28:57,160
um,

2430
01:28:57,160 --> 01:28:59,400
strategize to fill so that we can

2431
01:28:59,400 --> 01:29:01,720
continue retaining and recruiting new

2432
01:29:01,720 --> 01:29:07,120
talent. Um, I think that that would be a very worthwhile endeavor for us to do

2433
01:29:07,120 --> 01:29:10,000
and at any point when we feel like we

2434
01:29:10,000 --> 01:29:11,600
can consider

2435
01:29:11,600 --> 01:29:13,320
um, embarking on a a project such as

2436
01:29:13,320 --> 01:29:15,240
that then we can have more conversations

2437
01:29:15,240 --> 01:29:16,600
about whether or not we should complete

2438
01:29:16,600 --> 01:29:18,480
that internally or externally. There are

2439
01:29:18,480 --> 01:29:20,320
pros and cons to both, whether it be

2440
01:29:20,320 --> 01:29:23,640
hiring a consulting firm to help

2441
01:29:23,640 --> 01:29:25,560
complete that survey or whether or not

2442
01:29:25,560 --> 01:29:27,320
we were to do it in-house like we did in

2443
01:29:27,320 --> 01:29:32,030
2021.

2444
01:29:32,040 --> 01:29:33,360
That's the information that I have for

2445
01:29:33,360 --> 01:29:35,200
you all today.

2446
01:29:35,200 --> 01:29:36,480
>> Okay.

2447
01:29:36,480 --> 01:29:38,160
Uh, one of the things is is when you're

2448
01:29:38,160 --> 01:29:39,720
looking at that stepping grade right

2449
01:29:39,720 --> 01:29:41,680
there, um, would it be a possibility to

2450
01:29:41,680 --> 01:29:42,800
look at a

2451
01:29:42,800 --> 01:29:45,160
stepping grade increase for employees

2452
01:29:45,160 --> 01:29:47,920
who are no longer eligible for URS,

2453
01:29:47,920 --> 01:29:49,480
especially looking at some of our higher

2454
01:29:49,480 --> 01:29:51,360
level positions?

2455
01:29:51,360 --> 01:29:53,320
>> Yeah, so um,

2456
01:29:53,320 --> 01:29:56,560
specific to URS, that one is interesting

2457
01:29:56,560 --> 01:29:58,360
because Utah Retirement Systems per

2458
01:29:58,360 --> 01:30:00,800
state code has um,

2459
01:30:00,800 --> 01:30:03,880
some some pretty specific restrictions

2460
01:30:03,880 --> 01:30:06,800
on not offering cash in lieu of

2461
01:30:06,800 --> 01:30:09,080
retirement benefits. So, if somebody is

2462
01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:10,600
not eligible to receive a retirement

2463
01:30:10,600 --> 01:30:15,760
bonus if we, say, have some other means

2464
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:18,960
specifically dedicated to employees who

2465
01:30:18,960 --> 01:30:20,480
can't receive X, Y, and Z because of

2466
01:30:20,480 --> 01:30:23,000
retirement, that may still put us

2467
01:30:23,000 --> 01:30:24,640
I like to say that I like to keep us

2468
01:30:24,640 --> 01:30:27,240
away from hot water and warm water

2469
01:30:27,240 --> 01:30:31,200
um, in in terms of that. And so, um,

2470
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:32,560
we're working on getting more

2471
01:30:32,560 --> 01:30:34,320
information from mutual retirement

2472
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:37,160
systems, but I don't have a I don't have

2473
01:30:37,160 --> 01:30:39,600
a good converse or I don't have a

2474
01:30:39,600 --> 01:30:41,560
thorough answer for you on that.

2475
01:30:41,560 --> 01:30:44,040
And in regards to, um,

2476
01:30:44,040 --> 01:30:45,880
higher-level employees, there there are

2477
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:47,600
some different ideas or thoughts that

2478
01:30:47,600 --> 01:30:49,560
I've thrown out before, whether it be,

2479
01:30:49,560 --> 01:30:50,320
um,

2480
01:30:50,320 --> 01:30:52,880
that we do some type of sign-on and

2481
01:30:52,880 --> 01:30:55,640
retention bonus, like

2482
01:30:55,640 --> 01:30:58,360
2 year if you stay with us for 2 years,

2483
01:30:58,360 --> 01:31:02,200
you get, you know, this one-time bonus.

2484
01:31:02,200 --> 01:31:03,320
Um,

2485
01:31:03,320 --> 01:31:05,640
another topic that has come up a number

2486
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:07,640
of times before and and I anticipate

2487
01:31:07,640 --> 01:31:09,800
will continue to is that our stepped-out

2488
01:31:09,800 --> 01:31:11,320
employees, meaning our employees that

2489
01:31:11,320 --> 01:31:13,560
have lots of experience and have been

2490
01:31:13,560 --> 01:31:15,440
with and or have been with the county

2491
01:31:15,440 --> 01:31:18,520
for a long time, are at a step 15,

2492
01:31:18,520 --> 01:31:21,480
meaning that they no longer receive any,

2493
01:31:21,480 --> 01:31:23,520
um, wage increases. They receive a cost

2494
01:31:23,520 --> 01:31:25,360
of living adjustment, but that is

2495
01:31:25,360 --> 01:31:27,480
something that has continued to be

2496
01:31:27,480 --> 01:31:29,160
brought up to me as well.

2497
01:31:29,160 --> 01:31:31,520
Um, and I have some information and

2498
01:31:31,520 --> 01:31:34,560
different ideas of how to address that.

2499
01:31:34,560 --> 01:31:35,920
Uh, what's really nice is that we don't

2500
01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:37,400
have to reinvent the wheel for a lot of

2501
01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:39,360
these things. There are a number of HR

2502
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:42,320
groups that speak very frequently,

2503
01:31:42,320 --> 01:31:43,080
um,

2504
01:31:43,080 --> 01:31:45,200
in the state and have been able to glean

2505
01:31:45,200 --> 01:31:47,480
some really great information on what

2506
01:31:47,480 --> 01:31:49,800
they're doing, and I think that it

2507
01:31:49,800 --> 01:31:50,880
helps,

2508
01:31:50,880 --> 01:31:52,720
uh, me to know

2509
01:31:52,720 --> 01:31:54,920
where we sit in terms of are we are we

2510
01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:56,960
sort of following following in line with

2511
01:31:56,960 --> 01:31:58,760
what other employers are doing or

2512
01:31:58,760 --> 01:31:59,880
there's some areas that we're really

2513
01:31:59,880 --> 01:32:01,280
excelling at or some areas that we could

2514
01:32:01,280 --> 01:32:03,720
look at maybe filling some gaps.

2515
01:32:03,720 --> 01:32:05,400
>> I'd make have of you when we look at

2516
01:32:05,400 --> 01:32:07,080
those mid-year amendments if you could

2517
01:32:07,080 --> 01:32:08,840
maybe bring forward some of those ideas

2518
01:32:08,840 --> 01:32:10,320
for the URS as well as for the

2519
01:32:10,320 --> 01:32:12,120
stepped-out employers. I would think

2520
01:32:12,120 --> 01:32:14,080
that would be helpful.

2521
01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:16,630
Thanks.

2522
01:32:16,640 --> 01:32:18,840
» Yeah, I I too would like to see

2523
01:32:18,840 --> 01:32:20,360
something brought forward as soon as

2524
01:32:20,360 --> 01:32:22,080
possible on that. I know we've got some

2525
01:32:22,080 --> 01:32:25,040
employees that have been waiting

2526
01:32:25,040 --> 01:32:26,720
considerable amount of time and if we

2527
01:32:26,720 --> 01:32:28,920
need to do some digging or find out what

2528
01:32:28,920 --> 01:32:30,960
we have to do there to compensate them

2529
01:32:30,960 --> 01:32:32,320
fairly when they're not getting a

2530
01:32:32,320 --> 01:32:33,840
retirement.

2531
01:32:33,840 --> 01:32:35,680
I think it would be

2532
01:32:35,680 --> 01:32:37,480
certainly helpful if we could move that

2533
01:32:37,480 --> 01:32:41,659
forward a little bit.

2534
01:32:41,669 --> 01:32:45,310
» [clears throat]

2535
01:32:45,320 --> 01:32:46,960
» Anything else? Do you have anything

2536
01:32:46,960 --> 01:32:47,920
else?

2537
01:32:47,920 --> 01:32:49,520
>> No, I don't.

2538
01:32:49,520 --> 01:32:52,040
>> You have a question?

2539
01:32:52,040 --> 01:32:53,440
Thank you. All right, thank you all very

2540
01:32:53,440 --> 01:32:54,320
much.

2541
01:32:54,320 --> 01:32:57,590
>> Thanks.

2542
01:32:57,600 --> 01:32:58,800
» Okay,

2543
01:32:58,800 --> 01:33:01,240
so our next

2544
01:33:01,240 --> 01:33:03,560
is number four at the

2545
01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:05,640
Do we have any agency reports or general

2546
01:33:05,640 --> 01:33:07,400
business action items?

2547
01:33:07,400 --> 01:33:08,520
Number four is commission member

2548
01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:11,360
disclosures and future considerations.

2549
01:33:11,360 --> 01:33:12,480
Mike.

2550
01:33:12,480 --> 01:33:14,080
>> As per usual, my wife works for the

2551
01:33:14,080 --> 01:33:15,200
sheriff's department.

2552
01:33:15,200 --> 01:33:16,960
>> All right, Bill.

2553
01:33:16,960 --> 01:33:19,320
>> Yeah, I I've got a future consideration

2554
01:33:19,320 --> 01:33:22,000
that I'd like to put on um

2555
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:24,920
a couple of us have been approached by

2556
01:33:24,920 --> 01:33:28,560
the mine down in San Juan County about

2557
01:33:28,560 --> 01:33:31,520
doing copper recycling out at Crescent

2558
01:33:31,520 --> 01:33:34,520
Junction and so there is probably a need

2559
01:33:34,520 --> 01:33:35,920
for

2560
01:33:35,920 --> 01:33:38,160
a workshop

2561
01:33:38,160 --> 01:33:41,640
to where we could and UAC has agreed to

2562
01:33:41,640 --> 01:33:43,680
participate in that where they could

2563
01:33:43,680 --> 01:33:46,680
come down. There's multiple options to

2564
01:33:46,680 --> 01:33:49,240
put a development zone around

2565
01:33:49,240 --> 01:33:51,120
Crescent Junction if we wanted to in the

2566
01:33:51,120 --> 01:33:53,640
future. There's um what many people call

2567
01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:58,400
CRAs, community reinvestment agencies.

2568
01:33:58,400 --> 01:34:00,360
I think one of those was tried up around

2569
01:34:00,360 --> 01:34:02,280
the college and it didn't work years

2570
01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:04,400
back before I was a commissioner. And

2571
01:34:04,400 --> 01:34:07,080
then because there's a rail aspect to

2572
01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:09,480
Crescent, then there's the possibility

2573
01:34:09,480 --> 01:34:11,480
of utilizing

2574
01:34:11,480 --> 01:34:13,880
Utah Inland Port Authority

2575
01:34:13,880 --> 01:34:15,600
and doing some sort of an interlocal

2576
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:18,880
agreement with them. Or there's also

2577
01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:21,120
what are called regionally significant

2578
01:34:21,120 --> 01:34:24,720
development zones, RSDZ. So, there's

2579
01:34:24,720 --> 01:34:26,160
kind of a

2580
01:34:26,160 --> 01:34:28,080
for lack of a better word, a smorgasbord

2581
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:30,280
of options, and I think that it would be

2582
01:34:30,280 --> 01:34:31,800
good for

2583
01:34:31,800 --> 01:34:34,400
all of us commissioners to be educated

2584
01:34:34,400 --> 01:34:37,960
by UAC if we have that interest to kind

2585
01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:39,640
of show us what would be the best way

2586
01:34:39,640 --> 01:34:41,440
forward out there.

2587
01:34:41,440 --> 01:34:44,080
there's a lot of

2588
01:34:44,080 --> 01:34:45,400
different

2589
01:34:45,400 --> 01:34:47,200
degrees in this just because of the

2590
01:34:47,200 --> 01:34:48,760
railroad,

2591
01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:51,360
you know, the the portion of it the

2592
01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:53,800
recycling is not

2593
01:34:53,800 --> 01:34:56,280
it doesn't utilize any water. It's some

2594
01:34:56,280 --> 01:34:59,040
sort of electrolysis process, but there

2595
01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:01,320
would be a benefit to our solid waste

2596
01:35:01,320 --> 01:35:03,120
district. So,

2597
01:35:03,120 --> 01:35:04,920
I I know that they've got a couple of

2598
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:06,720
other options. They're looking at Green

2599
01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:09,080
River and something closer to Price as

2600
01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:11,240
well, but I think if there's an option

2601
01:35:11,240 --> 01:35:13,680
for us to benefit from something out

2602
01:35:13,680 --> 01:35:15,080
there, I

2603
01:35:15,080 --> 01:35:16,560
would like to

2604
01:35:16,560 --> 01:35:18,840
reach out to UAC if the chair's fine

2605
01:35:18,840 --> 01:35:20,120
with that and then see if it could

2606
01:35:20,120 --> 01:35:23,080
happen at the next commission meeting.

2607
01:35:23,080 --> 01:35:24,880
And if it can't, then find a schedule

2608
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:26,960
that works for them that they could

2609
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:28,080
I'm pretty sure they're willing to

2610
01:35:28,080 --> 01:35:30,800
travel down here to educate us on those

2611
01:35:30,800 --> 01:35:33,680
three different options and

2612
01:35:33,680 --> 01:35:35,840
how how that would look moving forward

2613
01:35:35,840 --> 01:35:39,160
if we so choose to. There's also

2614
01:35:39,160 --> 01:35:43,120
a data center education meeting with UAC

2615
01:35:43,120 --> 01:35:45,960
on the 24th. I think we all got an email

2616
01:35:45,960 --> 01:35:47,320
about that. I think it would be

2617
01:35:47,320 --> 01:35:49,240
important just be

2618
01:35:49,240 --> 01:35:51,120
cuz I'm certainly not pushing a data

2619
01:35:51,120 --> 01:35:52,240
center,

2620
01:35:52,240 --> 01:35:54,800
but those things come up with when these

2621
01:35:54,800 --> 01:35:56,800
kind of discussions happen around the

2622
01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:59,040
Utah Inland Port that as commissioners

2623
01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:00,840
we probably should make an effort to at

2624
01:36:00,840 --> 01:36:03,120
least zoom in to that meeting on the

2625
01:36:03,120 --> 01:36:04,720
24th and I'd have to look at

2626
01:36:04,720 --> 01:36:05,440
>> think [laughter] they're going to allow

2627
01:36:05,440 --> 01:36:06,760
zoom option. I was

2628
01:36:06,760 --> 01:36:07,840
>> Oh, they're not?

2629
01:36:07,840 --> 01:36:09,240
>> Cuz they want people to show up.

2630
01:36:09,240 --> 01:36:11,560
>> Oh, do they? Well, my apology. I know

2631
01:36:11,560 --> 01:36:13,280
I'm scheduled to show up, but

2632
01:36:13,280 --> 01:36:14,320
>> Yeah, they want people to show up. They

2633
01:36:14,320 --> 01:36:15,600
don't want to zoom, which is a bummer

2634
01:36:15,600 --> 01:36:17,160
cuz it's hard, but

2635
01:36:17,160 --> 01:36:17,760
>> Yeah.

2636
01:36:17,760 --> 01:36:18,680
>> Are you trying to what what

2637
01:36:18,680 --> 01:36:20,200
>> Yeah, that's all I've got on it. I just

2638
01:36:20,200 --> 01:36:22,520
want to get some education for the data

2639
01:36:22,520 --> 01:36:24,360
>> Yeah, and I think whatever if you can

2640
01:36:24,360 --> 01:36:26,360
let us know when they're available. Next

2641
01:36:26,360 --> 01:36:27,560
meeting is fine. I don't think we have a

2642
01:36:27,560 --> 01:36:29,080
workshop plan for that, but if we need

2643
01:36:29,080 --> 01:36:30,880
to look at a different date.

2644
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:31,760
Go ahead, Brian.

2645
01:36:31,760 --> 01:36:33,280
>> Yeah, I just I'd like to throw in a a

2646
01:36:33,280 --> 01:36:34,560
couple of things. First, I'd like to

2647
01:36:34,560 --> 01:36:37,080
bring up the credit card policy

2648
01:36:37,080 --> 01:36:38,760
um that we had brought forth by our

2649
01:36:38,760 --> 01:36:41,520
internal auditor um up for a discussion

2650
01:36:41,520 --> 01:36:42,920
and then possibly a vote on the

2651
01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:45,000
following meeting at our next meeting.

2652
01:36:45,000 --> 01:36:46,480
So, I'd like to get that that brought up

2653
01:36:46,480 --> 01:36:48,880
to the commission. And then second uh

2654
01:36:48,880 --> 01:36:50,440
also what what Bill saying I've been

2655
01:36:50,440 --> 01:36:52,960
working with Andrew trying to get a

2656
01:36:52,960 --> 01:36:55,320
resolution together for a moratorium on

2657
01:36:55,320 --> 01:36:57,920
data centers. And so, we have something

2658
01:36:57,920 --> 01:36:59,520
started and we're going to wait until of

2659
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:01,400
course we go to that June 24th meeting

2660
01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:02,960
up there and kind of see what some of

2661
01:37:02,960 --> 01:37:04,520
the other counties are doing as well

2662
01:37:04,520 --> 01:37:06,200
just to make sure that we're that we're

2663
01:37:06,200 --> 01:37:08,920
thinking of all the all the all the

2664
01:37:08,920 --> 01:37:10,960
traps that we might not be that might

2665
01:37:10,960 --> 01:37:13,440
not be seeing. Um and then also I'd like

2666
01:37:13,440 --> 01:37:16,680
to look at bringing forward a

2667
01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:19,600
energy tax on for data data centers as

2668
01:37:19,600 --> 01:37:21,480
well, which is another option that we

2669
01:37:21,480 --> 01:37:23,280
might be able to bring. So, those three

2670
01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:24,920
items if I can get those added to the

2671
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:26,600
next commission agenda meeting that

2672
01:37:26,600 --> 01:37:27,400
would be great.

2673
01:37:27,400 --> 01:37:29,000
>> Okay, will you send Dana an email?

2674
01:37:29,000 --> 01:37:31,000
>> Yes, I can do that.

2675
01:37:31,000 --> 01:37:32,280
>> All right, and Stephen?

2676
01:37:32,280 --> 01:37:34,720
>> And just noting on the on the CRA

2677
01:37:34,720 --> 01:37:37,280
conversation, we had a presentation from

2678
01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:38,840
you UPC

2679
01:37:38,840 --> 01:37:40,560
down here a couple years ago. I can't

2680
01:37:40,560 --> 01:37:43,000
recall who presented on it. I just

2681
01:37:43,000 --> 01:37:45,160
reached out to Bob Church who is over

2682
01:37:45,160 --> 01:37:48,200
UPC in providing education. We're happy

2683
01:37:48,200 --> 01:37:50,200
to supplement or to provide additional

2684
01:37:50,200 --> 01:37:52,400
information. It may have been UAC or a

2685
01:37:52,400 --> 01:37:54,520
presenter from UAC that presented that.

2686
01:37:54,520 --> 01:37:55,640
But I reached out and also sent that

2687
01:37:55,640 --> 01:37:57,800
information to Commissioner Winkle. But

2688
01:37:57,800 --> 01:37:59,160
they have presented that here I think it

2689
01:37:59,160 --> 01:38:02,080
was like 2 years ago at the Moab Canyon.

2690
01:38:02,080 --> 01:38:03,440
>> And what is UPC?

2691
01:38:03,440 --> 01:38:05,280
>> Sorry, Utah Prosecution Council.

2692
01:38:05,280 --> 01:38:05,760
>> Okay, thanks.

2693
01:38:05,760 --> 01:38:07,880
>> So they basically the attorney portion

2694
01:38:07,880 --> 01:38:11,280
of UAC had had a presentation on it.

2695
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:15,190
So.

2696
01:38:15,200 --> 01:38:17,910
» Anything else?

2697
01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:19,840
All right. Moving along to the approval

2698
01:38:19,840 --> 01:38:22,440
of the consent agenda items.

2699
01:38:22,440 --> 01:38:24,480
So our first is A, the approval of

2700
01:38:24,480 --> 01:38:27,640
meeting minutes for June 2nd, 2026.

2701
01:38:27,640 --> 01:38:29,400
B is the ratification of payment of

2702
01:38:29,400 --> 01:38:32,640
bills. Total bills of $2,000,000

2703
01:38:32,640 --> 01:38:35,360
$4,084.26.

2704
01:38:35,360 --> 01:38:39,990
Total payroll of $262,013.99.

2705
01:38:40,000 --> 01:38:41,280
For total bills and payroll of

2706
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:45,910
$2,266,098.25.

2707
01:38:45,920 --> 01:38:48,160
C is the ratification of right of entry

2708
01:38:48,160 --> 01:38:50,560
for Lions Back LLC for the 4th of July

2709
01:38:50,560 --> 01:38:52,000
fireworks.

2710
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:53,680
D is I C

2711
01:38:53,680 --> 01:38:56,240
ICA with Vortex fireworks for the 4th of

2712
01:38:56,240 --> 01:38:58,240
July fireworks show.

2713
01:38:58,240 --> 01:39:00,360
E is the ratification of local consent

2714
01:39:00,360 --> 01:39:02,760
for Moab Brewers for the 2026 Grand

2715
01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:05,160
County Fair.

2716
01:39:05,160 --> 01:39:06,240
I can't believe you did not plug in the

2717
01:39:06,240 --> 01:39:07,080
fair over there.

2718
01:39:07,080 --> 01:39:08,200
>> Right. Well, I'm working on it.

2719
01:39:08,200 --> 01:39:08,840
>> Okay.

2720
01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:09,800
>> We got the

2721
01:39:09,800 --> 01:39:10,800
got us over there. Yeah.

2722
01:39:10,800 --> 01:39:11,640
>> Museum

2723
01:39:11,640 --> 01:39:13,600
State Co-op

2724
01:39:13,600 --> 01:39:15,840
marketing grant application.

2725
01:39:15,840 --> 01:39:17,440
G is the ratification of letter of

2726
01:39:17,440 --> 01:39:19,080
support for the Friends of the Moab Folk

2727
01:39:19,080 --> 01:39:21,400
Festival state Co-op marketing grant

2728
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:22,920
application.

2729
01:39:22,920 --> 01:39:24,800
H is ratification of a letter of support

2730
01:39:24,800 --> 01:39:26,280
for the Moab Music Festival Co-op

2731
01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:29,080
marketing grant application. I is a

2732
01:39:29,080 --> 01:39:30,600
grant approval for the Division of

2733
01:39:30,600 --> 01:39:32,600
Outdoor Recreation to the Old Spanish

2734
01:39:32,600 --> 01:39:34,520
Trail Arena for the archery range

2735
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:40,720
project. J, approval of revised library board bylaws.

2736
01:39:40,720 --> 01:39:44,560
K is S W S S D 1 request for letters

2737
01:39:44,560 --> 01:39:46,080
supporting the district's glass

2738
01:39:46,080 --> 01:39:48,560
recycling grant application.

2739
01:39:48,560 --> 01:39:52,000
It's a solid solid waste SSD.

2740
01:39:52,000 --> 01:39:53,800
Independent contract agreements for the

2741
01:39:53,800 --> 01:39:56,560
2026 Grand County Fair for Sknob

2742
01:39:56,560 --> 01:39:58,240
Productions.

2743
01:39:58,240 --> 01:40:00,560
And M is the independent contract

2744
01:40:00,560 --> 01:40:02,640
agreements for the 2026 Grand County

2745
01:40:02,640 --> 01:40:04,480
Fair for Pair-A-

2746
01:40:04,480 --> 01:40:08,800
Dice Carriage Pair-A-Dice Carriages.

2747
01:40:08,800 --> 01:40:09,200
All right.

2748
01:40:09,200 --> 01:40:10,920
>> So moved.

2749
01:40:10,920 --> 01:40:12,280
>> Second.

2750
01:40:12,280 --> 01:40:14,840
Okay. All in favor?

2751
01:40:14,840 --> 01:40:17,640
That's passed unanimously.

2752
01:40:17,640 --> 01:40:19,680
Six. All right, we're moving on to our

2753
01:40:19,680 --> 01:40:22,800
Four Corners Community Behavioral Health

2754
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:25,240
Fiscal Year 2027 Area Plan and that is

2755
01:40:25,240 --> 01:40:27,480
with the Executive Director for the Four

2756
01:40:27,480 --> 01:40:31,680
Corners Behavioral Health, Melissa Huntington.

2757
01:40:31,680 --> 01:40:33,640
>> Hi everybody. Can you hear me okay?

2758
01:40:33,640 --> 01:40:34,520
>> We can.

2759
01:40:34,520 --> 01:40:37,720
>> Okay, perfect. So, um

2760
01:40:37,720 --> 01:40:39,560
what I am here to present to you guys

2761
01:40:39,560 --> 01:40:41,880
today and you should have all received a

2762
01:40:41,880 --> 01:40:44,280
copy of the very long document which is

2763
01:40:44,280 --> 01:40:45,680
our

2764
01:40:45,680 --> 01:40:48,840
annual area plan. A few years ago the

2765
01:40:48,840 --> 01:40:51,560
state of Utah moved it to a three-year

2766
01:40:51,560 --> 01:40:55,960
plan and so the in-between years of when

2767
01:40:55,960 --> 01:40:58,640
we get it approved, we update the

2768
01:40:58,640 --> 01:41:00,400
document but we don't have to come

2769
01:41:00,400 --> 01:41:03,120
before the commissions to get it signed.

2770
01:41:03,120 --> 01:41:06,440
That three-year the the first round of

2771
01:41:06,440 --> 01:41:08,440
three-year plans has come and gone and

2772
01:41:08,440 --> 01:41:12,320
we have a new FY27

2773
01:41:12,320 --> 01:41:14,160
three-year plan so this will be the plan

2774
01:41:14,160 --> 01:41:17,120
that is going for the next three years

2775
01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:19,040
and we are coming around to the

2776
01:41:19,040 --> 01:41:20,440
commission meetings to get that

2777
01:41:20,440 --> 01:41:24,440
approved. And for those who who may not

2778
01:41:24,440 --> 01:41:26,960
be aware, the area plan is essentially a

2779
01:41:26,960 --> 01:41:30,120
document that we're statutorily

2780
01:41:30,120 --> 01:41:32,400
obligated to

2781
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:34,840
write that essentially talks about the

2782
01:41:34,840 --> 01:41:36,640
services that we'll be providing to the

2783
01:41:36,640 --> 01:41:38,960
areas in our catchment area.

2784
01:41:38,960 --> 01:41:42,400
Um and so Four Corners catchment area is

2785
01:41:42,400 --> 01:41:44,640
Carbon, Emery, and Grand County. So, we

2786
01:41:44,640 --> 01:41:46,680
come to each of the commission meetings

2787
01:41:46,680 --> 01:41:50,200
and we present our plan for approval

2788
01:41:50,200 --> 01:41:53,240
from the commissioners to sign um

2789
01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:55,680
indicating their support of the plan for

2790
01:41:55,680 --> 01:41:59,040
the next now for the next 3 years.

2791
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:01,480
Uh knowing that annually it gets updated

2792
01:42:01,480 --> 01:42:05,080
and reviewed by DHHS for um any updates

2793
01:42:05,080 --> 01:42:08,910
that may occur in between that time.

2794
01:42:08,920 --> 01:42:11,120
So, that's why I'm here today and just

2795
01:42:11,120 --> 01:42:12,280
um

2796
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:14,200
needing to to get approval and

2797
01:42:14,200 --> 01:42:16,560
signatures for that document and answer

2798
01:42:16,560 --> 01:42:21,670
any questions you may have.

2799
01:42:21,680 --> 01:42:25,935
» Any questions on this 113-page document?

2800
01:42:25,935 --> 01:42:28,590
>> [laughter]

2801
01:42:28,600 --> 01:42:30,400
» We reviewed it at our board meeting. I'm

2802
01:42:30,400 --> 01:42:34,750
the liaison to this board.

2803
01:42:34,760 --> 01:42:35,880
Okay, Mike.

2804
01:42:35,880 --> 01:42:37,520
>> I move to approve the for the fiscal

2805
01:42:37,520 --> 01:42:41,400
year 2027 area plan for for the Four

2806
01:42:41,400 --> 01:42:43,240
Corners Community Behavioral Health

2807
01:42:43,240 --> 01:42:45,040
Incorporated and authorize all

2808
01:42:45,040 --> 01:42:47,240
commission members to sign all

2809
01:42:47,240 --> 01:42:49,360
associated documents.

2810
01:42:49,360 --> 01:42:50,280
>> I'll second that.

2811
01:42:50,280 --> 01:42:51,840
>> Okay, we have a first by Mike and second

2812
01:42:51,840 --> 01:42:53,880
by Bill. Any other questions or

2813
01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:56,120
comments?

2814
01:42:56,120 --> 01:42:58,800
All right, all in favor?

2815
01:42:58,800 --> 01:43:02,600
And that passes five to absent.

2816
01:43:02,600 --> 01:43:03,640
Thank you.

2817
01:43:03,640 --> 01:43:05,000
>> Thank you so much, commissioners. I

2818
01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:06,640
appreciate you guys.

2819
01:43:06,640 --> 01:43:08,080
>> Thanks for what you do.

2820
01:43:08,080 --> 01:43:09,920
>> Thank you.

2821
01:43:09,920 --> 01:43:12,480
>> Okay, so moving along to number seven is

2822
01:43:12,480 --> 01:43:14,080
emergency purchase of maintenance

2823
01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:16,120
department riding mower.

2824
01:43:16,120 --> 01:43:18,040
And do we have Oh, and Marshall to John.

2825
01:43:18,040 --> 01:43:19,480
Come on up, John. Just come on up, John.

2826
01:43:19,480 --> 01:43:24,750
Facility maintenance supervisor.

2827
01:43:24,760 --> 01:43:26,280
» How are we all doing today?

2828
01:43:26,280 --> 01:43:28,240
>> Good. Good.

2829
01:43:28,240 --> 01:43:30,480
>> So, um coming before you today before

2830
01:43:30,480 --> 01:43:33,800
you to request a purchase purchase of a

2831
01:43:33,800 --> 01:43:37,120
riding mower since my current one is

2832
01:43:37,120 --> 01:43:39,000
dead mower.

2833
01:43:39,000 --> 01:43:41,040
Try to maintain it and keep it running,

2834
01:43:41,040 --> 01:43:44,400
but it's come to a point where

2835
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:45,800
I either need to

2836
01:43:45,800 --> 01:43:46,880
put a lot of money into the one the

2837
01:43:46,880 --> 01:43:51,120
current one I have or get a new one.

2838
01:43:51,120 --> 01:43:54,470
That's where I'm at.

2839
01:43:54,480 --> 01:43:55,040
» Mike.

2840
01:43:55,040 --> 01:43:56,840
>> Isn't this below $5,000 purchasing

2841
01:43:56,840 --> 01:43:57,400
policy?

2842
01:43:57,400 --> 01:43:58,520
>> It is, but it's out of budget.

2843
01:43:58,520 --> 01:43:59,360
>> Oh, okay.

2844
01:43:59,360 --> 01:44:00,080
>> Doesn't request

2845
01:44:00,080 --> 01:44:02,320
>> Then I got you.

2846
01:44:02,320 --> 01:44:03,200
>> Okay, Mike.

2847
01:44:03,200 --> 01:44:05,000
>> Uh I move to approve the purchase of the

2848
01:44:05,000 --> 01:44:09,320
Mustang Z46 zero-turn lawn tractor from

2849
01:44:09,320 --> 01:44:10,400
the local vendor.

2850
01:44:10,400 --> 01:44:13,760
>> Can we have you state the amount?

2851
01:44:13,760 --> 01:44:14,320
>> With the

2852
01:44:14,320 --> 01:44:18,910
>> fiscal impact, $3,899.98.

2853
01:44:18,920 --> 01:44:20,600
>> I'll second.

2854
01:44:20,600 --> 01:44:21,960
>> Okay, should we practice and do a roll

2855
01:44:21,960 --> 01:44:23,000
call vote?

2856
01:44:23,000 --> 01:44:23,960
>> Yeah, might as well.

2857
01:44:23,960 --> 01:44:26,600
>> All right, those in favor?

2858
01:44:26,600 --> 01:44:27,360
>> I.

2859
01:44:27,360 --> 01:44:28,200
>> Do you have to say your name Do you have

2860
01:44:28,200 --> 01:44:29,680
to say your name if you do a roll call

2861
01:44:29,680 --> 01:44:30,360
vote?

2862
01:44:30,360 --> 01:44:32,120
I call Brian.

2863
01:44:32,120 --> 01:44:33,400
Practicing our new policies and

2864
01:44:33,400 --> 01:44:34,960
procedures. Mary.

2865
01:44:34,960 --> 01:44:36,280
>> Yes.

2866
01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:37,040
>> Mike.

2867
01:44:37,040 --> 01:44:37,880
>> I.

2868
01:44:37,880 --> 01:44:38,440
>> Bill.

2869
01:44:38,440 --> 01:44:39,280
>> Yes.

2870
01:44:39,280 --> 01:44:42,560
>> And Melody, yes. Okay, that passes.

2871
01:44:42,560 --> 01:44:45,160
Five with two absent.

2872
01:44:45,160 --> 01:44:45,840
>> Thank you, Commissioner.

2873
01:44:45,840 --> 01:44:47,520
>> Thank you.

2874
01:44:47,520 --> 01:44:48,440
>> Good luck mowing the lawn with that

2875
01:44:48,440 --> 01:44:49,400
thing.

2876
01:44:49,400 --> 01:44:50,680
>> Yeah.

2877
01:44:50,680 --> 01:44:52,360
That's one of our questions, Stephen. Do

2878
01:44:52,360 --> 01:44:53,967
we have to do that now?

2879
01:44:53,967 --> 01:44:54,040
>> [laughter]

2880
01:44:54,040 --> 01:44:56,160
>> I've heard.

2881
01:44:56,160 --> 01:44:58,360
>> All right, number eight is approval of

2882
01:44:58,360 --> 01:45:00,240
the Mick bathrooms the Moffat Recreation

2883
01:45:00,240 --> 01:45:01,960
Center bathroom remodel. Commissioner

2884
01:45:01,960 --> 01:45:03,200
Martinez, do you want to lead on this

2885
01:45:03,200 --> 01:45:04,720
one?

2886
01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:06,080
>> Yeah, I think that we we kind of

2887
01:45:06,080 --> 01:45:07,400
discussed it a little bit at the last

2888
01:45:07,400 --> 01:45:09,720
meeting, so what we're looking for is a

2889
01:45:09,720 --> 01:45:12,080
remodel at the Mick.

2890
01:45:12,080 --> 01:45:13,360
It's a it's a project that's in

2891
01:45:13,360 --> 01:45:14,760
desperate need. I think it's going to

2892
01:45:14,760 --> 01:45:16,520
benefit both our maintenance department

2893
01:45:16,520 --> 01:45:19,360
who's been over there quite a bit and

2894
01:45:19,360 --> 01:45:20,600
all the visitors that we have here to

2895
01:45:20,600 --> 01:45:21,920
Grand County.

2896
01:45:21,920 --> 01:45:25,040
Um there's a bid up there for $200,000.

2897
01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:27,160
Um plus there's going to be the need for

2898
01:45:27,160 --> 01:45:28,280
some

2899
01:45:28,280 --> 01:45:29,520
um

2900
01:45:29,520 --> 01:45:34,150
portable toilets in during the remodel.

2901
01:45:34,160 --> 01:45:35,440
Can I answer any questions that anybody

2902
01:45:35,440 --> 01:45:36,680
has?

2903
01:45:36,680 --> 01:45:38,400
>> Where did

2904
01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:40,120
Where was it

2905
01:45:40,120 --> 01:45:41,880
Where did this come to come out to a

2906
01:45:41,880 --> 01:45:43,560
have what I did it was going to come out

2907
01:45:43,560 --> 01:45:44,360
of?

2908
01:45:44,360 --> 01:45:45,320
>> I think this is going to have to come

2909
01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:48,240
out of capital projects.

2910
01:45:48,240 --> 01:45:51,608
>> And are we voting on the um

2911
01:45:51,608 --> 01:45:52,440
>> [clears throat]

2912
01:45:52,440 --> 01:45:54,280
>> porta-potties as well in this or is that

2913
01:45:54,280 --> 01:45:56,720
included in the $200,000 budget?

2914
01:45:56,720 --> 01:45:58,360
>> going to be additional plus and I think

2915
01:45:58,360 --> 01:46:00,440
that we're going to be looking um

2916
01:46:00,440 --> 01:46:03,480
somewhere somewhere about like $2,000

2917
01:46:03,480 --> 01:46:05,160
somewhere there. So, I mean I I guess we

2918
01:46:05,160 --> 01:46:07,200
could say in a

2919
01:46:07,200 --> 01:46:08,680
$200

2920
01:46:08,680 --> 01:46:09,320
uh

2921
01:46:09,320 --> 01:46:11,120
um $202,000

2922
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:13,800
up to $202,000

2923
01:46:13,800 --> 01:46:15,520
in the recommended motion.

2924
01:46:15,520 --> 01:46:18,840
>> Okay. Are we voting on the

2925
01:46:18,840 --> 01:46:19,760
um

2926
01:46:19,760 --> 01:46:21,480
We have two quotes for porta-potties.

2927
01:46:21,480 --> 01:46:22,760
Are we voting on those today too as

2928
01:46:22,760 --> 01:46:24,080
well? They're not in the

2929
01:46:24,080 --> 01:46:25,600
>> Yeah, they're both

2930
01:46:25,600 --> 01:46:28,040
>> I think both of them one of them is ADA

2931
01:46:28,040 --> 01:46:29,920
and the other one is a standard was it

2932
01:46:29,920 --> 01:46:30,280
not?

2933
01:46:30,280 --> 01:46:30,920
>> Yeah.

2934
01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:33,240
>> So, it's actually more than 2,000 Brian.

2935
01:46:33,240 --> 01:46:34,640
Let me see if I can find

2936
01:46:34,640 --> 01:46:36,200
>> That quote if we go with the ADA one

2937
01:46:36,200 --> 01:46:40,160
it's um just total of $1,290.

2938
01:46:40,160 --> 01:46:41,760
>> But it was my understanding

2939
01:46:41,760 --> 01:46:43,680
>> you have a weekly

2940
01:46:43,680 --> 01:46:44,560
Oh.

2941
01:46:44,560 --> 01:46:46,160
>> that we need both of those quotes at

2942
01:46:46,160 --> 01:46:47,080
Dana's office.

2943
01:46:47,080 --> 01:46:47,760
>> No.

2944
01:46:47,760 --> 01:46:48,880
>> Okay, then I missed

2945
01:46:48,880 --> 01:46:50,880
>> I just got two two quotes from the two

2946
01:46:50,880 --> 01:46:52,040
companies here in town.

2947
01:46:52,040 --> 01:46:52,640
>> Oh, okay.

2948
01:46:52,640 --> 01:46:53,520
>> One company has

2949
01:46:53,520 --> 01:46:54,800
>> to come up here and talk so we can give

2950
01:46:54,800 --> 01:46:55,040
you the

2951
01:46:55,040 --> 01:46:56,320
>> Please, come on over.

2952
01:46:56,320 --> 01:46:57,240
>> Thanks, Sharon.

2953
01:46:57,240 --> 01:46:58,440
>> Yeah.

2954
01:46:58,440 --> 01:46:59,920
>> You can talk up there or sit down either

2955
01:46:59,920 --> 01:47:02,040
way.

2956
01:47:02,040 --> 01:47:04,200
This has both chairs.

2957
01:47:04,200 --> 01:47:05,720
I just reached out to both companies

2958
01:47:05,720 --> 01:47:08,200
here in town um and got

2959
01:47:08,200 --> 01:47:10,040
quotes for a month of using the

2960
01:47:10,040 --> 01:47:11,800
porta-potties. The

2961
01:47:11,800 --> 01:47:15,120
one company have ADA

2962
01:47:15,120 --> 01:47:18,560
um accessible toilets and also hand

2963
01:47:18,560 --> 01:47:21,000
washing stations. The other company does

2964
01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:24,000
not. Um so, that's why one is quoted

2965
01:47:24,000 --> 01:47:25,560
with four porta potties and the other

2966
01:47:25,560 --> 01:47:28,120
one is one ADA and then three other

2967
01:47:28,120 --> 01:47:30,160
porta potties that go with that.

2968
01:47:30,160 --> 01:47:32,120
>> And and Sharon, do you know what this

2969
01:47:32,120 --> 01:47:35,280
quote is? Is that a one-time fee and

2970
01:47:35,280 --> 01:47:36,680
then it would be more than this because

2971
01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:38,480
it'd be multiple

2972
01:47:38,480 --> 01:47:39,640
service?

2973
01:47:39,640 --> 01:47:42,320
>> There should There is some service

2974
01:47:42,320 --> 01:47:44,200
put in there. I think they have three

2975
01:47:44,200 --> 01:47:45,320
line with three

2976
01:47:45,320 --> 01:47:46,920
>> Uh-huh. A line of three.

2977
01:47:46,920 --> 01:47:48,960
>> And I think that's the service.

2978
01:47:48,960 --> 01:47:50,880
It could be possibly be more cuz

2979
01:47:50,880 --> 01:47:53,200
depending on when this is done, if it's

2980
01:47:53,200 --> 01:47:54,400
done

2981
01:47:54,400 --> 01:47:56,080
during the busy season, we're going to

2982
01:47:56,080 --> 01:47:57,800
need more service than three. If it's

2983
01:47:57,800 --> 01:47:59,480
done in the winter, three would probably

2984
01:47:59,480 --> 01:48:00,960
work.

2985
01:48:00,960 --> 01:48:04,160
>> Okay. That's So three is $180 two weeks.

2986
01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:07,280
So we've got six weeks. It's maybe 360.

2987
01:48:07,280 --> 01:48:08,400
Okay.

2988
01:48:08,400 --> 01:48:09,480
All right. Somebody had their hand up.

2989
01:48:09,480 --> 01:48:10,480
Sorry, Bill.

2990
01:48:10,480 --> 01:48:14,160
>> Sure. I move to approve the $200,000 for

2991
01:48:14,160 --> 01:48:16,440
the full remodel

2992
01:48:16,440 --> 01:48:20,120
of the Mick bathrooms from the What

2993
01:48:20,120 --> 01:48:21,880
>> fund were we talking, Brian? I'm sorry.

2994
01:48:21,880 --> 01:48:22,760
>> Capital projects.

2995
01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:24,640
>> The capital projects fund to be

2996
01:48:24,640 --> 01:48:27,880
completed by a state contractor and also

2997
01:48:27,880 --> 01:48:31,760
include in this for the quote for the

2998
01:48:31,760 --> 01:48:35,160
uh ADA compliant bathrooms for another

2999
01:48:35,160 --> 01:48:36,920
$1,290

3000
01:48:36,920 --> 01:48:39,240
with the potential for several hundred

3001
01:48:39,240 --> 01:48:42,960
more if we go over time in cleaning fees

3002
01:48:42,960 --> 01:48:46,880
for those restrooms, portable restrooms.

3003
01:48:46,880 --> 01:48:47,560
>> Second.

3004
01:48:47,560 --> 01:48:49,000
>> Okay. Did I get everything?

3005
01:48:49,000 --> 01:48:50,960
>> Mary second. I feel like

3006
01:48:50,960 --> 01:48:53,280
Mary second. Okay. So we'll do roll call

3007
01:48:53,280 --> 01:48:55,120
vote. Brian?

3008
01:48:55,120 --> 01:48:55,920
>> Yep.

3009
01:48:55,920 --> 01:48:56,560
>> Mary?

3010
01:48:56,560 --> 01:48:57,600
>> Yes.

3011
01:48:57,600 --> 01:48:58,080
>> Mike?

3012
01:48:58,080 --> 01:48:58,840
>> Aye.

3013
01:48:58,840 --> 01:48:59,320
>> Bill?

3014
01:48:59,320 --> 01:49:00,080
>> Yes.

3015
01:49:00,080 --> 01:49:02,680
>> Melody? Yes. That passes five with two

3016
01:49:02,680 --> 01:49:04,600
absent.

3017
01:49:04,600 --> 01:49:07,280
Hooray.

3018
01:49:07,280 --> 01:49:08,720
>> Thank you.

3019
01:49:08,720 --> 01:49:10,730
The county and I thank you a lot.

3020
01:49:10,730 --> 01:49:11,160
>> [laughter]

3021
01:49:11,160 --> 01:49:12,760
>> I was like maintenance thanks us.

3022
01:49:12,760 --> 01:49:14,920
>> And the people.

3023
01:49:14,920 --> 01:49:16,520
>> All right. So number nine is the

3024
01:49:16,520 --> 01:49:18,600
resolution for Vista Antigua amended

3025
01:49:18,600 --> 01:49:20,640
final plat and that is Andrew Jackson of

3026
01:49:20,640 --> 01:49:28,950
Planning Zoning Director.

3027
01:49:28,960 --> 01:49:32,200
» Andrew Jackson, Wake County Planner.

3028
01:49:32,200 --> 01:49:34,800
Um this item asks County Commission to

3029
01:49:34,800 --> 01:49:37,480
approve an amended final plat that

3030
01:49:37,480 --> 01:49:40,720
merges three side-by-side lots in the

3031
01:49:40,720 --> 01:49:44,680
Vista Antiguas Vista Antigua subdivision

3032
01:49:44,680 --> 01:49:48,920
lots 32, 33, and 34 into one larger lot

3033
01:49:48,920 --> 01:49:54,000
called lot 33A totaling about 1.6 acres.

3034
01:49:54,000 --> 01:49:56,720
Um combining the lots erases the

3035
01:49:56,720 --> 01:49:59,520
interior property lines between those

3036
01:49:59,520 --> 01:50:00,760
lots

3037
01:50:00,760 --> 01:50:02,080
um

3038
01:50:02,080 --> 01:50:03,720
but keeps the existing utility and

3039
01:50:03,720 --> 01:50:05,960
drainage easements in place. No new

3040
01:50:05,960 --> 01:50:08,560
lots, roads, or buildings come from this

3041
01:50:08,560 --> 01:50:11,320
request. The area's zoning does not

3042
01:50:11,320 --> 01:50:13,760
change. Staff recommends approval

3043
01:50:13,760 --> 01:50:15,280
subject to the County Engineer's

3044
01:50:15,280 --> 01:50:17,360
signature and that no right-of-ways are

3045
01:50:17,360 --> 01:50:20,880
acknowledged. Additionally, um there

3046
01:50:20,880 --> 01:50:22,720
because it's a planned unit development,

3047
01:50:22,720 --> 01:50:24,880
they do have conditions covenants and

3048
01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:26,440
restrictions

3049
01:50:26,440 --> 01:50:27,160
um

3050
01:50:27,160 --> 01:50:32,360
on the property and in section 4.3

3051
01:50:32,360 --> 01:50:34,600
of their um

3052
01:50:34,600 --> 01:50:36,536
conditions covenants and restrictions

3053
01:50:36,536 --> 01:50:37,160
>> [clears throat]

3054
01:50:37,160 --> 01:50:39,160
>> uh it permits

3055
01:50:39,160 --> 01:50:42,480
lots to be combined as long as no new

3056
01:50:42,480 --> 01:50:44,720
lots are created. Um

3057
01:50:44,720 --> 01:50:46,200
so

3058
01:50:46,200 --> 01:50:48,480
we normally have like some some

3059
01:50:48,480 --> 01:50:50,200
questions with property owners in the

3060
01:50:50,200 --> 01:50:52,400
PUD, but they have already agreed to

3061
01:50:52,400 --> 01:50:53,960
that prior to the subdivision being

3062
01:50:53,960 --> 01:50:59,150
recorded that um lots can be combined.

3063
01:50:59,160 --> 01:51:01,560
And this is by resolution.

3064
01:51:01,560 --> 01:51:03,760
Should be by resolution

3065
01:51:03,760 --> 01:51:06,110
and

3066
01:51:06,120 --> 01:51:07,640
Oh.

3067
01:51:07,640 --> 01:51:10,120
So I I've done these staff reports

3068
01:51:10,120 --> 01:51:11,760
different each time I try and do

3069
01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:14,120
something to see if this works or not.

3070
01:51:14,120 --> 01:51:16,480
And so, actually have the plain English

3071
01:51:16,480 --> 01:51:18,680
summary on the agenda

3072
01:51:18,680 --> 01:51:20,640
summary, which I think came a little bit

3073
01:51:20,640 --> 01:51:23,200
later to you. And then, item two is

3074
01:51:23,200 --> 01:51:27,360
suggested county condition motion.

3075
01:51:27,360 --> 01:51:28,560
So, I'm just trying to make it a little

3076
01:51:28,560 --> 01:51:32,910
easier for folks to find.

3077
01:51:32,920 --> 01:51:35,400
And I think that was sent out in the

3078
01:51:35,400 --> 01:51:39,280
republished packet that was sent to

3079
01:51:39,280 --> 01:51:45,350
earlier today.

3080
01:51:45,360 --> 01:51:46,920
» I'm trying to hunt it down.

3081
01:51:46,920 --> 01:51:48,400
>> It's the first one, number two. Go

3082
01:51:48,400 --> 01:51:50,200
ahead, Ryan.

3083
01:51:50,200 --> 01:51:51,480
>> Um

3084
01:51:51,480 --> 01:51:53,080
let's see here. Um

3085
01:51:53,080 --> 01:51:54,880
after reviewing the staff report and the

3086
01:51:54,880 --> 01:51:56,520
final amended plat and any public

3087
01:51:56,520 --> 01:51:58,840
comment and finding that the plat

3088
01:51:58,840 --> 01:52:03,880
containing lots 32, 33, and 34 into 33A

3089
01:52:03,880 --> 01:52:06,320
is consistent with the Entrada Antigua

3090
01:52:06,320 --> 01:52:10,000
PUD and the Grand County Land Use Code,

3091
01:52:10,000 --> 01:52:12,600
I move to approve this resolution

3092
01:52:12,600 --> 01:52:14,680
approving the amended final plat for

3093
01:52:14,680 --> 01:52:18,840
Vista Antigua PUD phase one, lots 32,

3094
01:52:18,840 --> 01:52:22,360
33, 34, and to authorize the commission

3095
01:52:22,360 --> 01:52:25,000
chair to execute the plat subject to the

3096
01:52:25,000 --> 01:52:27,040
county engineer's signature and a

3097
01:52:27,040 --> 01:52:29,360
notarized owner's acknowledgement.

3098
01:52:29,360 --> 01:52:30,440
>> Thank you. I'll second.

3099
01:52:30,440 --> 01:52:32,280
>> I'll second by Bell.

3100
01:52:32,280 --> 01:52:36,240
Any discussion? Any questions?

3101
01:52:36,240 --> 01:52:39,120
All right, all in favor?

3102
01:52:39,120 --> 01:52:39,720
>> Thank you.

3103
01:52:39,720 --> 01:52:41,440
>> Are you opposed?

3104
01:52:41,440 --> 01:52:44,160
>> Oh, no. I I [laughter] I apologize.

3105
01:52:44,160 --> 01:52:44,720
>> Okay.

3106
01:52:44,720 --> 01:52:47,440
>> I was raising my hand in my head.

3107
01:52:47,440 --> 01:52:49,720
>> That passes 5-0.

3108
01:52:49,720 --> 01:52:52,680
All right. Thank you, Andrew.

3109
01:52:52,680 --> 01:52:54,560
We're going to move on to number 10, is

3110
01:52:54,560 --> 01:52:56,280
the resolution to respect our neighbors'

3111
01:52:56,280 --> 01:52:58,080
rights and the rule of law at the July

3112
01:52:58,080 --> 01:53:00,160
4th fireworks. I think Commissioner, are

3113
01:53:00,160 --> 01:53:01,200
you going to Megan, are you going to

3114
01:53:01,200 --> 01:53:02,880
read this resolution?

3115
01:53:02,880 --> 01:53:05,360
Okay. And then, I have invited um

3116
01:53:05,360 --> 01:53:07,480
the fire department, so we have Clark

3117
01:53:07,480 --> 01:53:09,560
Mon here and and he's going to talk

3118
01:53:09,560 --> 01:53:12,320
about some of the calls and and some

3119
01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:14,280
that they have in the national

3120
01:53:14,280 --> 01:53:16,480
need that resolution for a minute.

3121
01:53:16,480 --> 01:53:17,960
Yeah, and then you can go ahead and come

3122
01:53:17,960 --> 01:53:19,240
up with these like

3123
01:53:19,240 --> 01:53:20,520
You can stand and you can sit.

3124
01:53:20,520 --> 01:53:22,680
>> Enjoy the family during 4th of July and

3125
01:53:22,680 --> 01:53:23,640
stay the least.

3126
01:53:23,640 --> 01:53:24,160
>> Yeah.

3127
01:53:24,160 --> 01:53:27,280
>> A resolution to respect our neighbors'

3128
01:53:27,280 --> 01:53:29,840
rights and the rules of law regarding

3129
01:53:29,840 --> 01:53:32,360
use of fireworks on and around the 4th

3130
01:53:32,360 --> 01:53:34,480
of July celebration.

3131
01:53:34,480 --> 01:53:37,280
Whereas current and forecasted prolonged

3132
01:53:37,280 --> 01:53:39,160
drought coupled with the extreme dry

3133
01:53:39,160 --> 01:53:42,200
vegetation throughout southeastern Utah

3134
01:53:42,200 --> 01:53:44,720
have created hazardous fire conditions

3135
01:53:44,720 --> 01:53:49,080
demanding extreme caution and whereas

3136
01:53:49,080 --> 01:53:51,800
ignited fireworks are known to be a

3137
01:53:51,800 --> 01:53:54,520
cause of wildfires and

3138
01:53:54,520 --> 01:53:57,560
minimizing the threat of wild fire in

3139
01:53:57,560 --> 01:54:00,320
Grand County is critical to maintain

3140
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:02,880
public health, safety, welfare, and

3141
01:54:02,880 --> 01:54:05,000
economic well-being of Grand County

3142
01:54:05,000 --> 01:54:08,600
citizens. And whereas the 4th of

3143
01:54:08,600 --> 01:54:10,440
July celebration, the founding of

3144
01:54:10,440 --> 01:54:13,040
America, a nation bound by the rule of

3145
01:54:13,040 --> 01:54:16,760
law. And whereas in past years illegal

3146
01:54:16,760 --> 01:54:19,800
fireworks have been discharged without

3147
01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:22,920
respect to laws and regard disregard to

3148
01:54:22,920 --> 01:54:25,480
other citizens' rights and safeties and

3149
01:54:25,480 --> 01:54:29,200
welfare. And whereas the city Moab City

3150
01:54:29,200 --> 01:54:39,040
adopted ordinance 26 I mean 2026-10 and on April 28, 2026

3151
01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:41,080
imposing a temporary ban on the

3152
01:54:41,080 --> 01:54:43,640
discharge of fireworks within designated

3153
01:54:43,640 --> 01:54:45,840
areas of the city.

3154
01:54:45,840 --> 01:54:48,200
Now, therefore, it be resolved that by

3155
01:54:48,200 --> 01:54:50,200
the Grand County Commission that it does

3156
01:54:50,200 --> 01:54:52,360
hereby respectfully

3157
01:54:52,360 --> 01:54:55,680
implore implore that citizens to respect

3158
01:54:55,680 --> 01:54:57,480
our neighbors' rights and the rule of

3159
01:54:57,480 --> 01:55:01,120
law including discharging or using any

3160
01:55:01,120 --> 01:55:03,240
kind of fireworks on public or

3161
01:55:03,240 --> 01:55:06,120
unincorporated private land regarding

3162
01:55:06,120 --> 01:55:08,960
use of legal fireworks on and around the

3163
01:55:08,960 --> 01:55:12,400
4th of July celebration.

3164
01:55:12,400 --> 01:55:13,520
Thank you.

3165
01:55:13,520 --> 01:55:15,120
And Clark, I'd love you to share what

3166
01:55:15,120 --> 01:55:17,480
it's like to be a fireman on the 4th of

3167
01:55:17,480 --> 01:55:18,240
July.

3168
01:55:18,240 --> 01:55:21,280
>> Okay. Yeah, that's that's fantastic.

3169
01:55:21,280 --> 01:55:23,840
You're doing that as a commission.

3170
01:55:23,840 --> 01:55:26,520
As you guys all are well aware of, it's

3171
01:55:26,520 --> 01:55:28,720
exceptionally dry this year.

3172
01:55:28,720 --> 01:55:31,440
Our fire danger rating is very high at

3173
01:55:31,440 --> 01:55:32,880
all elevations in Grant County right

3174
01:55:32,880 --> 01:55:33,840
now.

3175
01:55:33,840 --> 01:55:34,680
Um

3176
01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:36,280
one of the primary ingredients that go

3177
01:55:36,280 --> 01:55:37,880
into that,

3178
01:55:37,880 --> 01:55:39,440
the fire danger rating is the energy

3179
01:55:39,440 --> 01:55:41,680
release component or ERC, what it's

3180
01:55:41,680 --> 01:55:43,280
called. It's basically a measure of how

3181
01:55:43,280 --> 01:55:44,560
hot,

3182
01:55:44,560 --> 01:55:46,720
intense, and difficult to control a

3183
01:55:46,720 --> 01:55:50,200
wildfire is. And right now,

3184
01:55:50,200 --> 01:55:52,200
I mean, that's based off the dryness of

3185
01:55:52,200 --> 01:55:54,400
the vegetation in a given area.

3186
01:55:54,400 --> 01:55:55,960
Right now, in the lower elevations of

3187
01:55:55,960 --> 01:55:57,360
Grant County, we're at the 95th

3188
01:55:57,360 --> 01:55:58,720
percentile

3189
01:55:58,720 --> 01:56:00,760
for that, well above the 10-year

3190
01:56:00,760 --> 01:56:02,720
average. At the higher elevations, like

3191
01:56:02,720 --> 01:56:03,960
up in the

3192
01:56:03,960 --> 01:56:06,440
Sal Mountains, we're getting to 97th

3193
01:56:06,440 --> 01:56:08,920
percentile, so it's even more severe up

3194
01:56:08,920 --> 01:56:12,320
there, which is approaching a 10-year uh

3195
01:56:12,320 --> 01:56:14,080
high for the fire danger for this time

3196
01:56:14,080 --> 01:56:16,720
of year. We are right now at the peak of

3197
01:56:16,720 --> 01:56:20,160
our annual fire danger right around the

3198
01:56:20,160 --> 01:56:22,320
middle of June to the end of July, even

3199
01:56:22,320 --> 01:56:23,880
dribbling into the

3200
01:56:23,880 --> 01:56:26,680
first week in July is when we we reach

3201
01:56:26,680 --> 01:56:29,520
the the peak of our fire danger every

3202
01:56:29,520 --> 01:56:32,760
year. This part of the state, so

3203
01:56:32,760 --> 01:56:36,040
uh with that, going into the 4th of July

3204
01:56:36,040 --> 01:56:37,920
and fireworks,

3205
01:56:37,920 --> 01:56:39,200
uh as the fire department, we're

3206
01:56:39,200 --> 01:56:42,160
stressing the importance of using

3207
01:56:42,160 --> 01:56:44,880
personal fireworks safely.

3208
01:56:44,880 --> 01:56:46,240
As you

3209
01:56:46,240 --> 01:56:47,760
mentioned,

3210
01:56:47,760 --> 01:56:51,240
All right, so uh that's very important

3211
01:56:51,240 --> 01:56:53,760
out there, only using fireworks outside

3212
01:56:53,760 --> 01:56:55,760
in areas clear of vegetation, at least

3213
01:56:55,760 --> 01:56:59,800
20 ft away from uh structures, vehicles,

3214
01:56:59,800 --> 01:57:01,960
anything flammable.

3215
01:57:01,960 --> 01:57:03,880
Always having a bucket or a hose

3216
01:57:03,880 --> 01:57:06,600
available to extinguish any new fires

3217
01:57:06,600 --> 01:57:08,160
that may start as a result of those

3218
01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:10,600
fireworks.

3219
01:57:10,600 --> 01:57:12,560
It's been busy for us

3220
01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:14,880
on the 4th of July.

3221
01:57:14,880 --> 01:57:17,320
Some busier than others, but

3222
01:57:17,320 --> 01:57:19,360
we will have

3223
01:57:19,360 --> 01:57:21,120
most of our engines fully staffed that

3224
01:57:21,120 --> 01:57:22,560
evening with a combination of our

3225
01:57:22,560 --> 01:57:24,360
regular staff and volunteer

3226
01:57:24,360 --> 01:57:25,800
firefighters.

3227
01:57:25,800 --> 01:57:27,680
And we'll be patrolling around the

3228
01:57:27,680 --> 01:57:29,520
valley and and working through the

3229
01:57:29,520 --> 01:57:31,960
evening as needed. Our partners over at

3230
01:57:31,960 --> 01:57:33,920
the BLM are also going to keep staffing

3231
01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:35,200
until

3232
01:57:35,200 --> 01:57:38,240
around 8:00 p.m. that evening.

3233
01:57:38,240 --> 01:57:40,960
So, we We want to encourage the public

3234
01:57:40,960 --> 01:57:43,360
to stay clear of emergency vehicles as

3235
01:57:43,360 --> 01:57:46,000
we move around the valley and

3236
01:57:46,000 --> 01:57:47,920
avoid blocking access to the fire

3237
01:57:47,920 --> 01:57:51,150
hydrants.

3238
01:57:51,160 --> 01:57:55,070
Any questions?

3239
01:57:55,080 --> 01:57:56,440
» No, thank you.

3240
01:57:56,440 --> 01:57:57,640
>> All right, thank you.

3241
01:57:57,640 --> 01:57:59,800
>> Maybe maybe one question. I'm sure you

3242
01:57:59,800 --> 01:58:03,080
guys are on top of all of this, but

3243
01:58:03,080 --> 01:58:05,240
I'm hoping and guessing that the Forest

3244
01:58:05,240 --> 01:58:07,720
Service and others are on I know that we

3245
01:58:07,720 --> 01:58:09,840
get a regular updates from the state

3246
01:58:09,840 --> 01:58:11,280
fire.

3247
01:58:11,280 --> 01:58:13,320
But we don't really see much from the

3248
01:58:13,320 --> 01:58:15,120
Forest Service or anything, but they're

3249
01:58:15,120 --> 01:58:17,120
on high alert as well because I'm sure

3250
01:58:17,120 --> 01:58:19,640
that fireworks with the

3251
01:58:19,640 --> 01:58:22,480
250th celebration is not going to be

3252
01:58:22,480 --> 01:58:25,360
limited to the streets of Moab.

3253
01:58:25,360 --> 01:58:27,840
>> Yeah, it's not. I think

3254
01:58:27,840 --> 01:58:30,520
Yeah, all the federal partners are you

3255
01:58:30,520 --> 01:58:32,120
know, aware of the condition and they're

3256
01:58:32,120 --> 01:58:34,240
staffed accordingly.

3257
01:58:34,240 --> 01:58:36,640
Yeah. I know that you know, they're

3258
01:58:36,640 --> 01:58:38,800
increasing the patrols in the state

3259
01:58:38,800 --> 01:58:40,600
forest.

3260
01:58:40,600 --> 01:58:42,920
>> I think I'll make that motion.

3261
01:58:42,920 --> 01:58:43,920
>> Oh.

3262
01:58:43,920 --> 01:58:44,960
>> It's all he's got it.

3263
01:58:44,960 --> 01:58:45,880
>> Still for it.

3264
01:58:45,880 --> 01:58:47,880
>> I move to approve the resolution to

3265
01:58:47,880 --> 01:58:49,880
respect our neighbors' rights and rule

3266
01:58:49,880 --> 01:58:52,360
of law regarding the use of fireworks on

3267
01:58:52,360 --> 01:58:55,760
and around the 4th of July celebrations.

3268
01:58:55,760 --> 01:58:59,040
>> Okay. And second by Mike.

3269
01:58:59,040 --> 01:59:01,600
All in favor?

3270
01:59:01,600 --> 01:59:03,360
All right, that passes by votes. Thank

3271
01:59:03,360 --> 01:59:04,160
you.

3272
01:59:04,160 --> 01:59:05,000
>> Thank you.

3273
01:59:05,000 --> 01:59:07,360
>> Good evening.

3274
01:59:07,360 --> 01:59:10,080
Number 11 is a resolution adopting

3275
01:59:10,080 --> 01:59:12,840
letter a letters of support policy. And

3276
01:59:12,840 --> 01:59:15,120
this is commission administrative Mark

3277
01:59:15,120 --> 01:59:17,280
Tyner. Do you want to talk about this?

3278
01:59:17,280 --> 01:59:20,160
>> Yes, in your packets you have a proposed

3279
01:59:20,160 --> 01:59:24,400
resolution and policy addressing letters

3280
01:59:24,400 --> 01:59:27,080
of support and how those are requested

3281
01:59:27,080 --> 01:59:29,080
of the county commission.

3282
01:59:29,080 --> 01:59:31,280
This will allow for a more structured

3283
01:59:31,280 --> 01:59:33,360
process

3284
01:59:33,360 --> 01:59:37,040
and also will allow us to overcome admin

3285
01:59:37,040 --> 01:59:38,480
to

3286
01:59:38,480 --> 01:59:41,160
maintain and ensure that any of these

3287
01:59:41,160 --> 01:59:43,280
requests align with the county's goals

3288
01:59:43,280 --> 01:59:46,390
and objectives.

3289
01:59:46,400 --> 01:59:47,240
» Mike.

3290
01:59:47,240 --> 01:59:48,720
>> I make a motion. I move to approve the

3291
01:59:48,720 --> 01:59:50,400
resolution adopting the county letters

3292
01:59:50,400 --> 01:59:52,280
of support policy.

3293
01:59:52,280 --> 01:59:53,640
>> I'll second that.

3294
01:59:53,640 --> 01:59:54,680
>> Okay.

3295
01:59:54,680 --> 01:59:56,280
Any other questions? Go ahead, Mary.

3296
01:59:56,280 --> 01:59:57,800
>> I just want to thank you, Mark, for

3297
01:59:57,800 --> 01:59:59,800
doing this. It's something that probably

3298
01:59:59,800 --> 02:00:01,720
should have been years ago and I'm glad

3299
02:00:01,720 --> 02:00:03,520
that someone stepped forward and did it.

3300
02:00:03,520 --> 02:00:04,720
Thank you very much.

3301
02:00:04,720 --> 02:00:06,720
>> Well, thank you. And and one of our

3302
02:00:06,720 --> 02:00:09,280
commissioners had had asked me to to

3303
02:00:09,280 --> 02:00:11,000
look into that, Mary, and I appreciate

3304
02:00:11,000 --> 02:00:11,440
that.

3305
02:00:11,440 --> 02:00:13,910
>> Thank you.

3306
02:00:13,920 --> 02:00:15,520
Okay. And then will we be sending out

3307
02:00:15,520 --> 02:00:18,600
this policy to

3308
02:00:18,600 --> 02:00:19,400
our partners?

3309
02:00:19,400 --> 02:00:20,000
>> Yes.

3310
02:00:20,000 --> 02:00:20,640
>> Okay.

3311
02:00:20,640 --> 02:00:22,600
>> And all the nonprofits in town.

3312
02:00:22,600 --> 02:00:24,480
>> Yeah, and that was that was mentioned at

3313
02:00:24,480 --> 02:00:26,120
the last meeting when we brought that

3314
02:00:26,120 --> 02:00:28,720
up. We needed to widen the scope of that

3315
02:00:28,720 --> 02:00:29,280
policy.

3316
02:00:29,280 --> 02:00:31,120
>> There are boards and some of our

3317
02:00:31,120 --> 02:00:32,720
partners, just like those that are here

3318
02:00:32,720 --> 02:00:34,560
tonight and others.

3319
02:00:34,560 --> 02:00:35,120
>> Thank you.

3320
02:00:35,120 --> 02:00:36,040
>> We will.

3321
02:00:36,040 --> 02:00:37,680
>> All right. Any other questions or

3322
02:00:37,680 --> 02:00:38,800
comments?

3323
02:00:38,800 --> 02:00:40,240
>> No, just real

3324
02:00:40,240 --> 02:00:41,480
Nope, just real quick. Thanks, Mark, for

3325
02:00:41,480 --> 02:00:43,680
getting that put together. Um, you know,

3326
02:00:43,680 --> 02:00:45,200
not only does this does this help the

3327
02:00:45,200 --> 02:00:46,720
commissioners, but it also helps the

3328
02:00:46,720 --> 02:00:49,080
staff as well um that are being asked to

3329
02:00:49,080 --> 02:00:50,800
review so So thank you for doing that

3330
02:00:50,800 --> 02:00:51,320
then.

3331
02:00:51,320 --> 02:00:52,000
>> Thanks, Gabe.

3332
02:00:52,000 --> 02:00:54,080
>> And then potentially if there happened

3333
02:00:54,080 --> 02:00:56,560
to be a newspaper that wanted to, you

3334
02:00:56,560 --> 02:00:58,720
know, us to reach out to a newspaper to

3335
02:00:58,720 --> 02:01:00,240
give them this information, maybe they

3336
02:01:00,240 --> 02:01:02,160
would want to circulate uh the county's

3337
02:01:02,160 --> 02:01:05,343
stance on letters of support.

3338
02:01:05,343 --> 02:01:06,320
>> [laughter]

3339
02:01:06,320 --> 02:01:09,040
>> Potentially.

3340
02:01:09,040 --> 02:01:11,840
>> All right. All in favor?

3341
02:01:11,840 --> 02:01:13,920
And that passes unanimously five with

3342
02:01:13,920 --> 02:01:16,000
two absent.

3343
02:01:16,000 --> 02:01:18,680
Okay, moving on to number 12 is our

3344
02:01:18,680 --> 02:01:20,360
2026-2027

3345
02:01:20,360 --> 02:01:23,360
opioid settlement funding allocation.

3346
02:01:23,360 --> 02:01:25,720
And we have um

3347
02:01:25,720 --> 02:01:28,480
Gabe Boyter online, our clerk auditor.

3348
02:01:28,480 --> 02:01:30,840
We also have some of the applicants in

3349
02:01:30,840 --> 02:01:32,720
the audience and I will ask them to come

3350
02:01:32,720 --> 02:01:36,120
and speak as well after Gabe.

3351
02:01:36,120 --> 02:01:37,720
>> Thank you. I don't need to say too much.

3352
02:01:37,720 --> 02:01:39,080
Can you hear me?

3353
02:01:39,080 --> 02:01:40,360
>> We can.

3354
02:01:40,360 --> 02:01:42,520
>> All right. So um we've been um taking

3355
02:01:42,520 --> 02:01:44,960
this action um approving an allocation

3356
02:01:44,960 --> 02:01:46,680
here for a few years so you all should

3357
02:01:46,680 --> 02:01:48,920
be uh familiar. Um as part of the state

3358
02:01:48,920 --> 02:01:50,320
of Utah and Grand County's involvement

3359
02:01:50,320 --> 02:01:51,960
in the One Utah National Opioid

3360
02:01:51,960 --> 02:01:53,680
Settlement funds are dispersed to Grand

3361
02:01:53,680 --> 02:01:55,440
County for the purpose of addressing

3362
02:01:55,440 --> 02:01:57,120
community needs related to opioid use

3363
02:01:57,120 --> 02:01:59,080
disorders. Um

3364
02:01:59,080 --> 02:02:01,560
and so we received requests from all of

3365
02:02:01,560 --> 02:02:03,920
the existing recipients um

3366
02:02:03,920 --> 02:02:06,320
as well as a request from the Southeast

3367
02:02:06,320 --> 02:02:08,400
Utah Health Department.

3368
02:02:08,400 --> 02:02:10,960
And I I tried to um include as much

3369
02:02:10,960 --> 02:02:13,200
detail as as possible in the agenda

3370
02:02:13,200 --> 02:02:15,400
packet as it relates to those requests

3371
02:02:15,400 --> 02:02:18,640
received which were all updated. Um

3372
02:02:18,640 --> 02:02:20,520
in the past we had kind of recycled the

3373
02:02:20,520 --> 02:02:22,960
previous request to just extend the

3374
02:02:22,960 --> 02:02:25,440
allocation for another year. Um this

3375
02:02:25,440 --> 02:02:28,000
time all recipient organizations um

3376
02:02:28,000 --> 02:02:31,160
entered a updated request. Um I also

3377
02:02:31,160 --> 02:02:33,480
included information regarding uh the

3378
02:02:33,480 --> 02:02:37,000
MOU itself, uh the amount uh that we

3379
02:02:37,000 --> 02:02:38,880
would expect to receive. There's some

3380
02:02:38,880 --> 02:02:40,800
information That's information prepared

3381
02:02:40,800 --> 02:02:43,080
by UAC, the Utah Association of

3382
02:02:43,080 --> 02:02:44,120
Counties,

3383
02:02:44,120 --> 02:02:46,440
um as well as a tracking spreadsheet

3384
02:02:46,440 --> 02:02:49,920
that I maintain, um that just uh shows

3385
02:02:49,920 --> 02:02:53,040
all of the disbursements made uh to date

3386
02:02:53,040 --> 02:02:56,480
over the years since this program began.

3387
02:02:56,480 --> 02:02:58,320
Um I'm really proud of it. We've uh

3388
02:02:58,320 --> 02:03:00,760
dispersed funds out into the community

3389
02:03:00,760 --> 02:03:03,160
uh with no delay. Um

3390
02:03:03,160 --> 02:03:05,240
And and I I and I think we we've been

3391
02:03:05,240 --> 02:03:07,040
out ahead as a county in the state in

3392
02:03:07,040 --> 02:03:10,720
terms of getting these funds out into our community

3393
02:03:10,720 --> 02:03:12,040
um so that they can be used for their

3394
02:03:12,040 --> 02:03:13,520
intended purpose.

3395
02:03:13,520 --> 02:03:15,680
Um and so

3396
02:03:15,680 --> 02:03:17,440
I don't think I have anything else to

3397
02:03:17,440 --> 02:03:19,360
say other than um you know, there

3398
02:03:19,360 --> 02:03:21,360
there's a there is a an additional

3399
02:03:21,360 --> 02:03:23,440
request to consider here that is outside

3400
02:03:23,440 --> 02:03:25,320
of what we had what has been allocated

3401
02:03:25,320 --> 02:03:29,070
in the past.

3402
02:03:29,080 --> 02:03:31,440
» Thank you, Gabe. We're going to let them

3403
02:03:31,440 --> 02:03:32,280
present.

3404
02:03:32,280 --> 02:03:32,760
>> Oh, okay.

3405
02:03:32,760 --> 02:03:35,280
>> Yeah. We're Well, anyone that came, I'm

3406
02:03:35,280 --> 02:03:37,800
sent out an invitation. So, we have it

3407
02:03:37,800 --> 02:03:40,720
looks like we have our recovery center

3408
02:03:40,720 --> 02:03:43,360
here and we have people from the

3409
02:03:43,360 --> 02:03:45,360
collective and New Star. So, anyway, who

3410
02:03:45,360 --> 02:03:46,840
would like to come up and I know some of

3411
02:03:46,840 --> 02:03:48,680
you wanted to speak. So, anybody want to

3412
02:03:48,680 --> 02:03:50,320
start first?

3413
02:03:50,320 --> 02:03:53,240
>> We can start.

3414
02:03:53,240 --> 02:03:56,300
>> Dr. Cook, sorry.

3415
02:03:56,300 --> 02:03:57,000
>> [laughter]

3416
02:03:57,000 --> 02:03:58,320
>> And how do we hook up?

3417
02:03:58,320 --> 02:04:00,120
>> And Doug, okay, so

3418
02:04:00,120 --> 02:04:03,240
you'll want to get on the on the Zoom.

3419
02:04:03,240 --> 02:04:05,680
You'll want to you switch on the Zoom

3420
02:04:05,680 --> 02:04:07,840
and then we can share the screen. But,

3421
02:04:07,840 --> 02:04:10,720
it's the same as the

3422
02:04:10,720 --> 02:04:12,120
We have it in there. So, people can

3423
02:04:12,120 --> 02:04:18,550
follow along online if you

3424
02:04:18,560 --> 02:04:20,320
» We sent this to the agenda as well. It

3425
02:04:20,320 --> 02:04:22,480
should be included.

3426
02:04:22,480 --> 02:04:23,800
>> I think it is. Yeah.

3427
02:04:23,800 --> 02:04:25,240
>> Um

3428
02:04:25,240 --> 02:04:28,440
I think what I'll do is just for brevity

3429
02:04:28,440 --> 02:04:31,040
is to just refer to the flyer

3430
02:04:31,040 --> 02:04:33,440
and then also um

3431
02:04:33,440 --> 02:04:37,840
associate MRC services with the One Utah

3432
02:04:37,840 --> 02:04:41,200
opioid settlement core strategy.

3433
02:04:41,200 --> 02:04:44,360
Um so, I think now most of us who live

3434
02:04:44,360 --> 02:04:45,480
in this community are aware of the

3435
02:04:45,480 --> 02:04:47,160
Recovery Center.

3436
02:04:47,160 --> 02:04:49,720
We are a division of the hospital, which

3437
02:04:49,720 --> 02:04:51,880
is a federally designated critical

3438
02:04:51,880 --> 02:04:54,560
access hospital. So, it is a non-profit

3439
02:04:54,560 --> 02:04:56,320
501(c)(3).

3440
02:04:56,320 --> 02:04:58,560
I think there's sometimes some confusion

3441
02:04:58,560 --> 02:05:01,160
over our funding. Um in terms of when

3442
02:05:01,160 --> 02:05:02,400
we're applying for funding that we're

3443
02:05:02,400 --> 02:05:04,400
kind of come from a profiting

3444
02:05:04,400 --> 02:05:06,080
organization.

3445
02:05:06,080 --> 02:05:09,000
We are the only full-service outpatient

3446
02:05:09,000 --> 02:05:10,760
recovery center in Southeast Utah, so

3447
02:05:10,760 --> 02:05:13,320
we're kind of unique in that regard.

3448
02:05:13,320 --> 02:05:16,560
We seek to serve all people regardless

3449
02:05:16,560 --> 02:05:18,920
of their ability to pay for services,

3450
02:05:18,920 --> 02:05:21,400
and we provide full spectrum outpatient

3451
02:05:21,400 --> 02:05:23,880
services for substance use disorder with

3452
02:05:23,880 --> 02:05:26,440
aggressive wrap-around case management

3453
02:05:26,440 --> 02:05:28,400
and other services extending

3454
02:05:28,400 --> 02:05:30,960
particularly to vulnerable populations,

3455
02:05:30,960 --> 02:05:32,920
particularly incarcerated people and

3456
02:05:32,920 --> 02:05:35,280
pregnant and parenting women.

3457
02:05:35,280 --> 02:05:37,840
So, we prescribe opioid use disorder

3458
02:05:37,840 --> 02:05:41,400
medications and medications for managing

3459
02:05:41,400 --> 02:05:42,840
withdrawal.

3460
02:05:42,840 --> 02:05:44,400
Excuse [clears throat] me, we integrate

3461
02:05:44,400 --> 02:05:46,520
primary care and mental health into our

3462
02:05:46,520 --> 02:05:48,600
treatment. We care for pregnant women in

3463
02:05:48,600 --> 02:05:51,320
our program. We do provide pretty robust

3464
02:05:51,320 --> 02:05:53,640
harm reduction services in the clinic,

3465
02:05:53,640 --> 02:05:55,800
and then we provide really robust um

3466
02:05:55,800 --> 02:05:58,160
case management and peer support. We

3467
02:05:58,160 --> 02:05:59,880
also have supportive programming like

3468
02:05:59,880 --> 02:06:02,240
weekly groups um including everything

3469
02:06:02,240 --> 02:06:04,880
from music, fitness, meditation,

3470
02:06:04,880 --> 02:06:07,520
acupuncture, talking circle, and we put

3471
02:06:07,520 --> 02:06:09,600
on some community events like art for

3472
02:06:09,600 --> 02:06:12,640
the recovery community. Uh we do extend

3473
02:06:12,640 --> 02:06:15,640
services into the Grand County uh jail.

3474
02:06:15,640 --> 02:06:18,480
So, I provide medical services for folks

3475
02:06:18,480 --> 02:06:19,840
there particularly with particular

3476
02:06:19,840 --> 02:06:22,800
attention to any substance use needs. We

3477
02:06:22,800 --> 02:06:24,560
started a harm reduction program in the

3478
02:06:24,560 --> 02:06:25,680
jail,

3479
02:06:25,680 --> 02:06:27,760
which has been very successful in terms

3480
02:06:27,760 --> 02:06:28,640
of

3481
02:06:28,640 --> 02:06:31,960
um educating people who are their

3482
02:06:31,960 --> 02:06:33,680
reasonable options for access to

3483
02:06:33,680 --> 02:06:36,000
treatment, which is really alarming to

3484
02:06:36,000 --> 02:06:37,680
me how people actually don't know that

3485
02:06:37,680 --> 02:06:39,480
there is help out there. And it's been

3486
02:06:39,480 --> 02:06:41,400
really wonderful to partner with Usana

3487
02:06:41,400 --> 02:06:43,800
to have groups in the jail. We've been

3488
02:06:43,800 --> 02:06:45,800
able to develop a program where we

3489
02:06:45,800 --> 02:06:48,120
distribute naloxone to people as they

3490
02:06:48,120 --> 02:06:49,720
exit the jail,

3491
02:06:49,720 --> 02:06:51,280
which is actually in alignment with the

3492
02:06:51,280 --> 02:06:54,640
One Utah Opioid Settlement Strategy. And

3493
02:06:54,640 --> 02:06:57,240
we are one of the most unique rural

3494
02:06:57,240 --> 02:07:00,040
county jails in doing so. Um I presented

3495
02:07:00,040 --> 02:07:02,200
at a national conference on this project

3496
02:07:02,200 --> 02:07:05,120
and we really do stand alone in terms of

3497
02:07:05,120 --> 02:07:08,120
providing naloxone, providing education,

3498
02:07:08,120 --> 02:07:09,800
and providing

3499
02:07:09,800 --> 02:07:11,760
um on-the-spot treatment for substance

3500
02:07:11,760 --> 02:07:13,240
use disorder.

3501
02:07:13,240 --> 02:07:15,520
We feel passionate about it because that

3502
02:07:15,520 --> 02:07:17,440
population particularly is vulnerable to

3503
02:07:17,440 --> 02:07:19,600
reuse as soon as they leave, and they

3504
02:07:19,600 --> 02:07:21,600
have some of the highest overdose rates

3505
02:07:21,600 --> 02:07:23,600
and mortality um

3506
02:07:23,600 --> 02:07:24,960
compared to anybody else in the

3507
02:07:24,960 --> 02:07:26,440
population.

3508
02:07:26,440 --> 02:07:29,280
So, you know, our visits have increased

3509
02:07:29,280 --> 02:07:31,520
and we do pretty hard work like everyone

3510
02:07:31,520 --> 02:07:34,600
else in this valley. We did um

3511
02:07:34,600 --> 02:07:38,240
3,300 plus visits last year, and we're a

3512
02:07:38,240 --> 02:07:40,240
fairly small staff.

3513
02:07:40,240 --> 02:07:42,440
Um I'm the main provider, Doug's the

3514
02:07:42,440 --> 02:07:44,960
clinic director. We have very part-time

3515
02:07:44,960 --> 02:07:47,800
mid-level provider, two coordinate nurse

3516
02:07:47,800 --> 02:07:49,560
case managers,

3517
02:07:49,560 --> 02:07:52,680
um two recovery nurses, a therapist, and

3518
02:07:52,680 --> 02:07:54,520
a peer support person.

3519
02:07:54,520 --> 02:07:57,280
Um we had a but a nearly a 10% increase

3520
02:07:57,280 --> 02:07:59,440
in visits last year

3521
02:07:59,440 --> 02:08:01,560
um compared to the year before. And you

3522
02:08:01,560 --> 02:08:03,160
know, like Doug was explaining to me

3523
02:08:03,160 --> 02:08:05,360
that from a business model that's almost

3524
02:08:05,360 --> 02:08:07,080
not sustainable.

3525
02:08:07,080 --> 02:08:09,120
Um we had 383

3526
02:08:09,120 --> 02:08:11,080
unique visits last year. So, unique

3527
02:08:11,080 --> 02:08:12,720
patients.

3528
02:08:12,720 --> 02:08:13,160
Sorry.

3529
02:08:13,160 --> 02:08:14,320
>> What are unique visits?

3530
02:08:14,320 --> 02:08:16,800
>> Unique patient encounters. So, new

3531
02:08:16,800 --> 02:08:18,440
patients or patients who are coming

3532
02:08:18,440 --> 02:08:20,480
back. And I think what that speaks to is

3533
02:08:20,480 --> 02:08:22,240
we actually see people with quite high

3534
02:08:22,240 --> 02:08:25,720
intensity and frequency. So, 383 unique

3535
02:08:25,720 --> 02:08:29,240
encounters, but then 3,300

3536
02:08:29,240 --> 02:08:31,120
visits, so people coming back, nurse

3537
02:08:31,120 --> 02:08:33,000
visits, provider visits.

3538
02:08:33,000 --> 02:08:35,160
Um and then out of the population that

3539
02:08:35,160 --> 02:08:38,440
we see at the Recovery Clinic, 33% are

3540
02:08:38,440 --> 02:08:39,720
self-pay

3541
02:08:39,720 --> 02:08:42,400
or uninsured. So, we provide a lot of

3542
02:08:42,400 --> 02:08:44,160
charity care while they're working on

3543
02:08:44,160 --> 02:08:46,280
financial assistance.

3544
02:08:46,280 --> 02:08:49,200
So, um you know, we we really love

3545
02:08:49,200 --> 02:08:50,600
collaborating with the community and we

3546
02:08:50,600 --> 02:08:52,120
appreciate our partnerships in the

3547
02:08:52,120 --> 02:08:53,560
community.

3548
02:08:53,560 --> 02:08:56,560
We feel like we do good work and we base

3549
02:08:56,560 --> 02:08:58,680
everything we do on evidence and

3550
02:08:58,680 --> 02:09:02,560
especially feel passionate about um

3551
02:09:02,560 --> 02:09:05,040
allocation of funds aligning for

3552
02:09:05,040 --> 02:09:07,520
treatment and prevention. The One Utah

3553
02:09:07,520 --> 02:09:09,920
Opioid Settlement core strategy, you

3554
02:09:09,920 --> 02:09:12,120
know, asks to distribute naloxone and

3555
02:09:12,120 --> 02:09:14,360
other FDA drugs, which I feel like we do

3556
02:09:14,360 --> 02:09:16,320
a good job. We do it in our clinic, in

3557
02:09:16,320 --> 02:09:18,600
the jail. We provide naloxone to the

3558
02:09:18,600 --> 02:09:20,520
emergency department and have started a

3559
02:09:20,520 --> 02:09:22,440
program in the emergency department to

3560
02:09:22,440 --> 02:09:23,804
start people on

3561
02:09:23,804 --> 02:09:23,960
>> [clears throat]

3562
02:09:23,960 --> 02:09:26,120
>> treatment as soon as they present an

3563
02:09:26,120 --> 02:09:27,720
opioid overdose.

3564
02:09:27,720 --> 02:09:29,560
We also attend other community events

3565
02:09:29,560 --> 02:09:31,480
and distribute naloxone.

3566
02:09:31,480 --> 02:09:33,400
Um like I've mentioned, we offer

3567
02:09:33,400 --> 02:09:35,040
medication-assisted treatment like

3568
02:09:35,040 --> 02:09:38,560
Suboxone, Vivitrol, methadone, which if

3569
02:09:38,560 --> 02:09:40,120
any of you know anybody in recovery,

3570
02:09:40,120 --> 02:09:42,200
some of them can really speak to the

3571
02:09:42,200 --> 02:09:43,720
value of these medications in

3572
02:09:43,720 --> 02:09:45,400
stabilizing them and being able to

3573
02:09:45,400 --> 02:09:46,880
reclaim their lives, reducing

3574
02:09:46,880 --> 02:09:49,080
recidivism, certainly reducing

3575
02:09:49,080 --> 02:09:50,720
mortality, although it's hard to measure

3576
02:09:50,720 --> 02:09:52,600
that if someone stays alive. They just

3577
02:09:52,600 --> 02:09:53,840
don't die.

3578
02:09:53,840 --> 02:09:57,000
Uh we do um align with the core strategy

3579
02:09:57,000 --> 02:09:58,680
of treating pregnant and postpartum

3580
02:09:58,680 --> 02:10:00,760
women. We have always have a core of

3581
02:10:00,760 --> 02:10:03,240
women who fall in this category and we

3582
02:10:03,240 --> 02:10:04,720
directly manage their care. We

3583
02:10:04,720 --> 02:10:06,600
collaborate with the specialty clinic in

3584
02:10:06,600 --> 02:10:09,440
Salt Lake and we've just begun to bring

3585
02:10:09,440 --> 02:10:11,920
a family medicine OB-trained provider

3586
02:10:11,920 --> 02:10:14,400
into our clinic in a model called

3587
02:10:14,400 --> 02:10:16,280
reverse integration, where she comes to

3588
02:10:16,280 --> 02:10:18,480
us, so that patients don't have to leave

3589
02:10:18,480 --> 02:10:20,560
our clinic because they often won't. You

3590
02:10:20,560 --> 02:10:22,480
know, they won't cross the street.

3591
02:10:22,480 --> 02:10:23,560
Um

3592
02:10:23,560 --> 02:10:26,240
we really value our expansion of warm

3593
02:10:26,240 --> 02:10:28,880
handoffs and and care collaboration and

3594
02:10:28,880 --> 02:10:30,640
case management to helping people get on

3595
02:10:30,640 --> 02:10:32,680
Medicaid, get into residential

3596
02:10:32,680 --> 02:10:35,480
treatment, navigate hospital assistance

3597
02:10:35,480 --> 02:10:38,240
if they need to do that, find housing,

3598
02:10:38,240 --> 02:10:41,280
um collaborate with peer support, etc.

3599
02:10:41,280 --> 02:10:43,680
And then of course um working with

3600
02:10:43,680 --> 02:10:45,880
treatment court and the jail folks. We

3601
02:10:45,880 --> 02:10:47,960
do everything we can to try and support

3602
02:10:47,960 --> 02:10:49,600
them so that they're successful in their

3603
02:10:49,600 --> 02:10:51,320
goals and that we don't find them back

3604
02:10:51,320 --> 02:10:53,520
in the justice system um and

3605
02:10:53,520 --> 02:10:55,520
re-offending, but rather, you know,

3606
02:10:55,520 --> 02:10:57,760
succeeding in their life goals.

3607
02:10:57,760 --> 02:11:00,760
So we we appreciate your time and you

3608
02:11:00,760 --> 02:11:02,960
know, everything pretty much is on this

3609
02:11:02,960 --> 02:11:06,280
one flyer. I didn't go through the the

3610
02:11:06,280 --> 02:11:08,800
presentation slide by slide because I

3611
02:11:08,800 --> 02:11:10,360
figured it was better just to talk about

3612
02:11:10,360 --> 02:11:13,440
what we do, but we're certainly open to

3613
02:11:13,440 --> 02:11:15,240
questions about the work we do in the

3614
02:11:15,240 --> 02:11:17,880
recovery center and just looking forward

3615
02:11:17,880 --> 02:11:19,680
we're applying for grants. We're mostly

3616
02:11:19,680 --> 02:11:22,320
we're very much grant funded. Doug and I

3617
02:11:22,320 --> 02:11:24,960
run around ragged, mostly Doug, managing

3618
02:11:24,960 --> 02:11:27,360
about four or five grants at a time. So

3619
02:11:27,360 --> 02:11:28,800
just demonstrating that we really do

3620
02:11:28,800 --> 02:11:30,280
rely on outside funding for our

3621
02:11:30,280 --> 02:11:31,720
services.

3622
02:11:31,720 --> 02:11:33,840
Um right now we're applying for a grant

3623
02:11:33,840 --> 02:11:36,120
that hopefully will expand our reach

3624
02:11:36,120 --> 02:11:38,240
from into a mobile unit where we'll be

3625
02:11:38,240 --> 02:11:40,640
able to drive around and do outreach and

3626
02:11:40,640 --> 02:11:42,480
provide much more robust telehealth

3627
02:11:42,480 --> 02:11:45,880
services into all of Southeast Utah and

3628
02:11:45,880 --> 02:11:47,600
even up more north like into Emery

3629
02:11:47,600 --> 02:11:49,840
County because we're unique. We have

3630
02:11:49,840 --> 02:11:51,840
people coming from Salt Lake, Grand

3631
02:11:51,840 --> 02:11:53,520
Junction cuz they don't have a model

3632
02:11:53,520 --> 02:11:56,640
like this anywhere else. So we're lucky

3633
02:11:56,640 --> 02:11:58,520
here, you know, but we just we do need

3634
02:11:58,520 --> 02:11:59,560
help. So we appreciate your

3635
02:11:59,560 --> 02:12:02,240
consideration in allocating opioid

3636
02:12:02,240 --> 02:12:07,110
settlement funds to opioid treatment.

3637
02:12:07,120 --> 02:12:09,040
» Thank you.

3638
02:12:09,040 --> 02:12:11,960
Yeah, it's very exciting to have

3639
02:12:11,960 --> 02:12:14,000
this program in our community. It's a

3640
02:12:14,000 --> 02:12:16,200
big help.

3641
02:12:16,200 --> 02:12:17,120
>> Thanks.

3642
02:12:17,120 --> 02:12:20,840
>> Any questions? Any questions, Amelia?

3643
02:12:20,840 --> 02:12:23,160
>> Good work. Appreciate what you do.

3644
02:12:23,160 --> 02:12:27,750
>> Thank you. They're busy people.

3645
02:12:27,760 --> 02:12:29,200
All right.

3646
02:12:29,200 --> 02:12:30,600
Briana, you going to come up? You going

3647
02:12:30,600 --> 02:12:32,400
to come up? Briana's with Wellness

3648
02:12:32,400 --> 02:12:38,710
Collective.

3649
02:12:38,720 --> 02:12:40,760
» Hi. Thanks for having me.

3650
02:12:40,760 --> 02:12:42,800
Briana, I'm the executive director of

3651
02:12:42,800 --> 02:12:44,600
the Wellness Collective.

3652
02:12:44,600 --> 02:12:46,920
And for transparency, I thought I might

3653
02:12:46,920 --> 02:12:50,240
add that I'm also part-time employed at

3654
02:12:50,240 --> 02:12:53,080
USARA, and I'm the board chair for the

3655
02:12:53,080 --> 02:12:55,320
Southeastern Utah Board of Health.

3656
02:12:55,320 --> 02:12:57,840
Though today, I'm here solely to

3657
02:12:57,840 --> 02:13:00,000
represent the Wellness Collective. So,

3658
02:13:00,000 --> 02:13:04,880
I'm just going to speak today about our request for continued opioid

3659
02:13:04,880 --> 02:13:07,720
settlement funding. And today, I think

3660
02:13:07,720 --> 02:13:10,400
Dana so kindly passed out a flyer, or

3661
02:13:10,400 --> 02:13:12,400
she gave a handout, so thanks to Dana

3662
02:13:12,400 --> 02:13:13,640
for that.

3663
02:13:13,640 --> 02:13:15,120
As many of you know, the Wellness

3664
02:13:15,120 --> 02:13:18,720
Collective is a really small nonprofit. Our mission

3665
02:13:18,720 --> 02:13:21,240
is simple, just to provide free or

3666
02:13:21,240 --> 02:13:24,320
low-cost wellness, recovery, and and

3667
02:13:24,320 --> 02:13:26,040
community support programs that are

3668
02:13:26,040 --> 02:13:28,800
accessible to everybody.

3669
02:13:28,800 --> 02:13:31,360
Over the past several years, the opioid

3670
02:13:31,360 --> 02:13:33,600
settlement funding has helped us offer

3671
02:13:33,600 --> 02:13:36,120
recovery and trauma-informed programs

3672
02:13:36,120 --> 02:13:38,840
for not only individuals, but family

3673
02:13:38,840 --> 02:13:42,600
members impacted by substance use.

3674
02:13:42,600 --> 02:13:44,800
Through our partnerships with

3675
02:13:44,800 --> 02:13:47,772
organizations like USARA,

3676
02:13:47,772 --> 02:13:47,920
>> [clears throat]

3677
02:13:47,920 --> 02:13:50,840
>> Seekhaven, EMS, and others,

3678
02:13:50,840 --> 02:13:52,960
we've been able to extend the reach of

3679
02:13:52,960 --> 02:13:54,680
services that are already offered to the

3680
02:13:54,680 --> 02:13:56,360
community

3681
02:13:56,360 --> 02:13:58,480
with ongoing support. So, one thing I

3682
02:13:58,480 --> 02:14:00,880
find encouraging is that we've seen a

3683
02:14:00,880 --> 02:14:03,320
lot of growth in our programs.

3684
02:14:03,320 --> 02:14:05,560
Many of our recovery programs have

3685
02:14:05,560 --> 02:14:07,480
doubled since this time last year. The

3686
02:14:07,480 --> 02:14:09,480
attendance has doubled, and some have

3687
02:14:09,480 --> 02:14:12,200
nearly tripled. So, to me that says

3688
02:14:12,200 --> 02:14:14,120
that, you know, people are using these

3689
02:14:14,120 --> 02:14:17,120
services and they find value in them.

3690
02:14:17,120 --> 02:14:18,320
Um

3691
02:14:18,320 --> 02:14:20,520
in this last fiscal year,

3692
02:14:20,520 --> 02:14:24,560
we received um $11,589

3693
02:14:24,560 --> 02:14:26,760
from the opioid settlement fund. So, I

3694
02:14:26,760 --> 02:14:30,280
we figured that's about $965 a month.

3695
02:14:30,280 --> 02:14:31,440
And

3696
02:14:31,440 --> 02:14:34,560
those dollars helped us to support

3697
02:14:34,560 --> 02:14:37,760
roughly 20 classes um a month. So,

3698
02:14:37,760 --> 02:14:39,680
ongoing 20 classes a month with that

3699
02:14:39,680 --> 02:14:42,880
funding. We really stretch every dollar

3700
02:14:42,880 --> 02:14:45,160
that we that we receive through the

3701
02:14:45,160 --> 02:14:46,680
funding. Um

3702
02:14:46,680 --> 02:14:48,720
because the because Wellness Collective

3703
02:14:48,720 --> 02:14:52,160
doesn't have a salaried staff, we rely

3704
02:14:52,160 --> 02:14:54,960
on volunteers and contracted

3705
02:14:54,960 --> 02:14:56,640
facilitators,

3706
02:14:56,640 --> 02:14:59,720
um donated resources, and and people who

3707
02:14:59,720 --> 02:15:02,120
care, many people who care deeply about

3708
02:15:02,120 --> 02:15:04,080
the community. So, the funding goes

3709
02:15:04,080 --> 02:15:07,160
directly into the programs versus

3710
02:15:07,160 --> 02:15:08,600
salary. Um

3711
02:15:08,600 --> 02:15:10,240
I want to share just a couple quick

3712
02:15:10,240 --> 02:15:12,040
comments, or I guess you could say

3713
02:15:12,040 --> 02:15:13,600
little testimonials that we have

3714
02:15:13,600 --> 02:15:17,120
received from the partners um at C Cabin

3715
02:15:17,120 --> 02:15:19,280
or participants at C Cabin. And that's

3716
02:15:19,280 --> 02:15:21,440
on the handout, but one staff member

3717
02:15:21,440 --> 02:15:23,920
shared that you all are making such a

3718
02:15:23,920 --> 02:15:25,680
difference here for our clients'

3719
02:15:25,680 --> 02:15:28,360
wellness. It's amazing to hear about it.

3720
02:15:28,360 --> 02:15:31,080
And then another um

3721
02:15:31,080 --> 02:15:33,880
another employee wrote, "Client yoga has

3722
02:15:33,880 --> 02:15:36,503
absolutely positively impacted some of

3723
02:15:36,503 --> 02:15:38,320
[clears throat] our shelter clients. A

3724
02:15:38,320 --> 02:15:39,720
couple of them have arranged their

3725
02:15:39,720 --> 02:15:42,360
schedules around this time and continue

3726
02:15:42,360 --> 02:15:44,000
to come even after moving out of the

3727
02:15:44,000 --> 02:15:45,640
shelter."

3728
02:15:45,640 --> 02:15:48,280
So, for me I think that those comments

3729
02:15:48,280 --> 02:15:50,480
really capture, you know, the the why

3730
02:15:50,480 --> 02:15:53,480
this work matters. And I just want to

3731
02:15:53,480 --> 02:15:55,920
emphasize that recovery doesn't only

3732
02:15:55,920 --> 02:15:58,560
happen in treatment settings.

3733
02:15:58,560 --> 02:16:00,480
It happens through relationships and

3734
02:16:00,480 --> 02:16:03,920
connections and belonging and and places

3735
02:16:03,920 --> 02:16:05,840
where people can go that where they feel

3736
02:16:05,840 --> 02:16:07,800
healthy in the

3737
02:16:07,800 --> 02:16:09,520
And [cough] in a rural community like

3738
02:16:09,520 --> 02:16:12,880
ours, those opportunities really matter.

3739
02:16:12,880 --> 02:16:14,000
Um

3740
02:16:14,000 --> 02:16:15,600
in my work in the community, I've had

3741
02:16:15,600 --> 02:16:18,800
the opportunity to observe many of the

3742
02:16:18,800 --> 02:16:20,280
community um

3743
02:16:20,280 --> 02:16:22,360
communities' responses to substance use

3744
02:16:22,360 --> 02:16:24,960
and recovery and prevention. And what

3745
02:16:24,960 --> 02:16:27,720
I've learned is that recovery really

3746
02:16:27,720 --> 02:16:31,200
requires um several different pathways

3747
02:16:31,200 --> 02:16:32,639
to, you know, for recovery. There's not

3748
02:16:32,639 --> 02:16:35,599
just one pathway to recovery. And I

3749
02:16:35,599 --> 02:16:37,200
think that we need to provide, you know,

3750
02:16:37,200 --> 02:16:39,000
one of those pathways.

3751
02:16:39,000 --> 02:16:42,679
Um so, continued funding helps us to

3752
02:16:42,679 --> 02:16:44,200
provide these services to people that

3753
02:16:44,200 --> 02:16:46,679
are relying on them. And um so, we're

3754
02:16:46,679 --> 02:16:48,800
asking for continued support for these

3755
02:16:48,800 --> 02:16:51,120
programs. And

3756
02:16:51,120 --> 02:16:53,360
yeah, these funds are not something new.

3757
02:16:53,360 --> 02:16:54,880
We're not starting something new. We're

3758
02:16:54,880 --> 02:16:57,240
just continuing what's already working

3759
02:16:57,240 --> 02:16:59,280
for our community. So, thank you for

3760
02:16:59,280 --> 02:17:01,639
listening. Thanks for your time.

3761
02:17:01,639 --> 02:17:02,719
Appreciate it.

3762
02:17:02,719 --> 02:17:04,929
>> Any questions?

3763
02:17:04,929 --> 02:17:05,120
>> [clears throat]

3764
02:17:05,120 --> 02:17:07,880
>> Thank you.

3765
02:17:07,880 --> 02:17:08,599
All right.

3766
02:17:08,599 --> 02:17:10,120
Matt, do you want to

3767
02:17:10,120 --> 02:17:11,840
come and talk to us, too? Tell us all

3768
02:17:11,840 --> 02:17:13,440
about your program.

3769
02:17:13,440 --> 02:17:16,950
>> Thank you.

3770
02:17:16,960 --> 02:17:19,040
guys so much for having me

3771
02:17:19,040 --> 02:17:20,599
here today and allowing me this

3772
02:17:20,599 --> 02:17:22,519
opportunity.

3773
02:17:22,519 --> 02:17:26,200
Um USU Eastern is a 501c

3774
02:17:26,200 --> 02:17:29,599
nonprofit that relies solely on grants

3775
02:17:29,599 --> 02:17:32,559
such as this to provide services free to

3776
02:17:32,559 --> 02:17:34,000
everybody.

3777
02:17:34,000 --> 02:17:35,639
Um

3778
02:17:35,639 --> 02:17:38,440
Grand County is part of Utah Southeast

3779
02:17:38,440 --> 02:17:40,480
Health District, which has experienced

3780
02:17:40,480 --> 02:17:42,639
some of the highest overdose mortality

3781
02:17:42,639 --> 02:17:46,639
rates in the state. Um in 2023, Grand

3782
02:17:46,639 --> 02:17:49,000
County had a fatal overdose rate of all

3783
02:17:49,000 --> 02:17:51,920
drugs of 31 deaths per 100,000

3784
02:17:51,920 --> 02:17:54,080
residents, substantially exceeding the

3785
02:17:54,080 --> 02:17:57,960
statewide rate of 18.5 per 100,000

3786
02:17:57,960 --> 02:18:00,280
residents. However, there has been

3787
02:18:00,280 --> 02:18:02,559
improvement in the recent years.

3788
02:18:02,559 --> 02:18:05,880
In 2024, that number dropped from 31

3789
02:18:05,880 --> 02:18:07,679
down to 20.

3790
02:18:07,679 --> 02:18:12,000
And prob- the preliminary data for 2025

3791
02:18:12,000 --> 02:18:14,040
indicates that that number will drop

3792
02:18:14,040 --> 02:18:18,000
down to 10. 10 deaths per 100,000

3793
02:18:18,000 --> 02:18:20,080
um residents.

3794
02:18:20,080 --> 02:18:23,160
Um U Sara has participated in Grant

3795
02:18:23,160 --> 02:18:26,080
County's opioid settlement fund at 60%

3796
02:18:26,080 --> 02:18:29,160
since April of 2024.

3797
02:18:29,160 --> 02:18:33,360
Um from April 2024 to March 2026, U Sara

3798
02:18:33,360 --> 02:18:35,200
has been able to use that funding to

3799
02:18:35,200 --> 02:18:36,599
provide

3800
02:18:36,599 --> 02:18:38,880
um 1,128

3801
02:18:38,880 --> 02:18:42,440
peer coaching sessions to 109 unique

3802
02:18:42,440 --> 02:18:44,920
individuals, providing over 10 peer

3803
02:18:44,920 --> 02:18:47,840
coaching sessions per week on average.

3804
02:18:47,840 --> 02:18:51,719
Um 444 mutual aid recovery groups with

3805
02:18:51,719 --> 02:18:53,679
2,424

3806
02:18:53,679 --> 02:18:56,559
attendees, offering four groups per week

3807
02:18:56,559 --> 02:18:59,360
with an average of 23 attendees. In

3808
02:18:59,360 --> 02:19:01,400
addition to this, we provide a support

3809
02:19:01,400 --> 02:19:02,880
group weekly in the jail with the

3810
02:19:02,880 --> 02:19:04,320
attending

3811
02:19:04,320 --> 02:19:07,280
uh with them attending online two times

3812
02:19:07,280 --> 02:19:09,639
per week, and we offer individual

3813
02:19:09,639 --> 02:19:14,040
recovery support um upon request

3814
02:19:14,040 --> 02:19:17,440
for folks that are um exiting the jail.

3815
02:19:17,440 --> 02:19:20,480
Um 39 community events

3816
02:19:20,480 --> 02:19:23,840
that were attended by 8,426

3817
02:19:23,840 --> 02:19:26,200
people. This includes our overdose

3818
02:19:26,200 --> 02:19:28,960
awareness event that honors lives lost

3819
02:19:28,960 --> 02:19:32,000
while um providing education to the

3820
02:19:32,000 --> 02:19:35,200
community on um Narcan

3821
02:19:35,200 --> 02:19:38,880
and um informing them on prevention, and

3822
02:19:38,880 --> 02:19:41,240
our recovery day celebration that allows

3823
02:19:41,240 --> 02:19:42,960
folks to get to know all of the

3824
02:19:42,960 --> 02:19:45,200
resources that are available to them in

3825
02:19:45,200 --> 02:19:47,360
a fun and loving way while sharing

3826
02:19:47,360 --> 02:19:49,960
stories of hope and recovery.

3827
02:19:49,960 --> 02:19:52,200
One way that U Sara measures success is

3828
02:19:52,200 --> 02:19:54,560
through improved recovery capital.

3829
02:19:54,560 --> 02:19:57,080
refers to investments

3830
02:19:57,080 --> 02:19:59,560
that people make in their own lives. Um,

3831
02:19:59,560 --> 02:20:01,760
this includes relationships, social

3832
02:20:01,760 --> 02:20:05,000
connecting connections, sorry, housing,

3833
02:20:05,000 --> 02:20:06,920
employment, mental health, physical

3834
02:20:06,920 --> 02:20:09,280
health, and substance use. The more

3835
02:20:09,280 --> 02:20:11,320
recovery capital that a person builds

3836
02:20:11,320 --> 02:20:13,040
up, the greater the likelihood that they

3837
02:20:13,040 --> 02:20:14,960
will be successful in long-term

3838
02:20:14,960 --> 02:20:16,280
recovery.

3839
02:20:16,280 --> 02:20:18,520
To measure the recovery capital, you

3840
02:20:18,520 --> 02:20:21,360
SARP began administering the substance

3841
02:20:21,360 --> 02:20:24,600
use recovery evaluation, also known as

3842
02:20:24,600 --> 02:20:27,560
the SURE, in 2022.

3843
02:20:27,560 --> 02:20:30,600
The SURE includes 21 questions across

3844
02:20:30,600 --> 02:20:32,480
six different domains of recovery

3845
02:20:32,480 --> 02:20:33,720
capital.

3846
02:20:33,720 --> 02:20:36,400
As shown in the chart below, average

3847
02:20:36,400 --> 02:20:38,720
total SURE scores increased from the

3848
02:20:38,720 --> 02:20:40,640
first administration to the second

3849
02:20:40,640 --> 02:20:43,960
administration across each domain.

3850
02:20:43,960 --> 02:20:46,760
Um, and that's typically between 3 to 6

3851
02:20:46,760 --> 02:20:48,040
months.

3852
02:20:48,040 --> 02:20:50,840
Um, the greatest gains occurred within

3853
02:20:50,840 --> 02:20:53,880
the domains of outlook on life.

3854
02:20:53,880 --> 02:20:56,680
Um, which include

3855
02:20:56,680 --> 02:20:59,720
uh, having realistic hopes and goals,

3856
02:20:59,720 --> 02:21:01,840
feeling positive, and feeling happy with

3857
02:21:01,840 --> 02:21:05,400
one's quality of life overall. As you

3858
02:21:05,400 --> 02:21:07,480
can see, the feeling happy with their

3859
02:21:07,480 --> 02:21:11,600
quality of life is up 14.3%.

3860
02:21:11,600 --> 02:21:13,520
Uh, this is huge. As a person in

3861
02:21:13,520 --> 02:21:16,000
recovery myself, this particular domain

3862
02:21:16,000 --> 02:21:17,840
has played a big role in my long-term

3863
02:21:17,840 --> 02:21:20,680
recovery. It was incre- It It was

3864
02:21:20,680 --> 02:21:23,200
incredibly important to find joy and

3865
02:21:23,200 --> 02:21:24,920
build a kind of life that I no longer

3866
02:21:24,920 --> 02:21:26,960
wish to escape from. And these are

3867
02:21:26,960 --> 02:21:29,160
things that we get to do with folks as

3868
02:21:29,160 --> 02:21:31,640
they come in. Questions in the material

3869
02:21:31,640 --> 02:21:34,080
resources domain include having stable

3870
02:21:34,080 --> 02:21:36,040
housing, regular income, and managing

3871
02:21:36,040 --> 02:21:37,560
their money well.

3872
02:21:37,560 --> 02:21:42,390
is up 22.1%.

3873
02:21:42,400 --> 02:21:44,720
Questions in the self-care domain focus

3874
02:21:44,720 --> 02:21:46,840
on taking care of one's mental and

3875
02:21:46,840 --> 02:21:48,840
physical health, eating a good diet,

3876
02:21:48,840 --> 02:21:51,280
sleeping well, and having good routine.

3877
02:21:51,280 --> 02:21:53,320
Um, taking care of physical health is up

3878
02:21:53,320 --> 02:21:55,280
14.1%.

3879
02:21:55,280 --> 02:21:57,480
And why is this so important? It's

3880
02:21:57,480 --> 02:22:00,000
important because it repairs the the

3881
02:22:00,000 --> 02:22:01,520
physic

3882
02:22:01,520 --> 02:22:05,000
the Sorry, physiological

3883
02:22:05,000 --> 02:22:08,080
toll of substance use, stabilizes moods,

3884
02:22:08,080 --> 02:22:10,120
and by restoring the brain's reward

3885
02:22:10,120 --> 02:22:12,320
system, and reduces the likelihood of

3886
02:22:12,320 --> 02:22:13,720
relapse.

3887
02:22:13,720 --> 02:22:16,760
These results align with our efforts to

3888
02:22:16,760 --> 02:22:19,200
help people find and obtain employment,

3889
02:22:19,200 --> 02:22:21,680
secure stable housing, build hope for

3890
02:22:21,680 --> 02:22:23,360
the future, and take better care of

3891
02:22:23,360 --> 02:22:26,120
themselves. As we now know, the opposite

3892
02:22:26,120 --> 02:22:28,560
of addiction is connection.

3893
02:22:28,560 --> 02:22:30,200
And I just want to say thank you, guys,

3894
02:22:30,200 --> 02:22:32,000
for allowing me this opportunity. I'm

3895
02:22:32,000 --> 02:22:33,520
really grateful to be here in front of

3896
02:22:33,520 --> 02:22:37,070
you today.

3897
02:22:37,080 --> 02:22:38,440
» Brian?

3898
02:22:38,440 --> 02:22:40,200
>> Yeah, I'd like to move to approve the

3899
02:22:40,200 --> 02:22:42,640
allocation of opioid settlement funds

3900
02:22:42,640 --> 02:22:44,040
with the following allocation

3901
02:22:44,040 --> 02:22:45,840
percentages.

3902
02:22:45,840 --> 02:22:49,720
U-Turn at 60%, Wellness Collective 20%,

3903
02:22:49,720 --> 02:22:51,600
the White Hawk Regional Recovery Center

3904
02:22:51,600 --> 02:22:53,360
20%.

3905
02:22:53,360 --> 02:22:55,000
Um

3906
02:22:55,000 --> 02:22:56,520
So

3907
02:22:56,520 --> 02:22:59,280
Um and associated funding agreements for

3908
02:22:59,280 --> 02:23:02,000
each reci- recipient entity upon

3909
02:23:02,000 --> 02:23:03,800
completion of review by the county

3910
02:23:03,800 --> 02:23:05,360
attorney. And then I'd like to make a

3911
02:23:05,360 --> 02:23:06,880
comment after the second.

3912
02:23:06,880 --> 02:23:09,040
>> Okay. So, second. Go ahead, Brian.

3913
02:23:09,040 --> 02:23:10,040
>> also.

3914
02:23:10,040 --> 02:23:11,000
>> Okay.

3915
02:23:11,000 --> 02:23:13,000
>> Yeah, I just want to say thank you. And

3916
02:23:13,000 --> 02:23:14,720
then I'd just like to go back over those

3917
02:23:14,720 --> 02:23:22,360
numbers that you just said. Um 2023, 31 people every 100,000 people die.

3918
02:23:22,360 --> 02:23:24,320
>> Yeah, in our area.

3919
02:23:24,320 --> 02:23:25,200
>> Mhm.

3920
02:23:25,200 --> 02:23:26,520
And then you look at the funding that

3921
02:23:26,520 --> 02:23:28,720
started also in 2023.

3922
02:23:28,720 --> 02:23:32,400
Um it just shows that, you know, what a difference we can do.

3923
02:23:32,400 --> 02:23:33,520
>> Yeah, it's uh

3924
02:23:33,520 --> 02:23:36,000
It's it's a big big So

3925
02:23:36,000 --> 02:23:37,560
>> Thank you to all these groups. You guys

3926
02:23:37,560 --> 02:23:39,560
are doing fantastic work.

3927
02:23:39,560 --> 02:23:41,480
>> And it's been great having all of these

3928
02:23:41,480 --> 02:23:43,840
partnerships too in the community. We

3929
02:23:43,840 --> 02:23:46,920
all work really well together, so

3930
02:23:46,920 --> 02:23:49,480
it's been awesome. Thank you, guys.

3931
02:23:49,480 --> 02:23:50,240
>> Go.

3932
02:23:50,240 --> 02:23:51,040
>> Yeah, I

3933
02:23:51,040 --> 02:23:53,480
I've had multiple

3934
02:23:53,480 --> 02:23:55,280
friends and acquaintances that have gone

3935
02:23:55,280 --> 02:23:58,720
through these programs. I can't speak um

3936
02:23:58,720 --> 02:24:01,520
highly enough for what you guys do, and

3937
02:24:01,520 --> 02:24:03,840
it's a personal issue for many of us,

3938
02:24:03,840 --> 02:24:05,880
you know, maybe not in our own lives,

3939
02:24:05,880 --> 02:24:09,040
but in our lives, right? Lives that we

3940
02:24:09,040 --> 02:24:10,920
touch daily, so

3941
02:24:10,920 --> 02:24:12,800
I I want to thank all of you, every one

3942
02:24:12,800 --> 02:24:13,560
of you.

3943
02:24:13,560 --> 02:24:15,040
>> Thank you.

3944
02:24:15,040 --> 02:24:16,520
Stephen has comments.

3945
02:24:16,520 --> 02:24:18,840
>> I just want to say that these these

3946
02:24:18,840 --> 02:24:20,760
organizations that presented today, um

3947
02:24:20,760 --> 02:24:22,480
it's a pleasure that my office gets to

3948
02:24:22,480 --> 02:24:24,000
interact and work with them through the

3949
02:24:24,000 --> 02:24:25,840
Recovery Court Program.

3950
02:24:25,840 --> 02:24:28,760
Um without their help, assistance, and

3951
02:24:28,760 --> 02:24:30,160
uh support that they give individuals in

3952
02:24:30,160 --> 02:24:32,200
the community, a lot of folks would not

3953
02:24:32,200 --> 02:24:33,400
be able to make the progress that they

3954
02:24:33,400 --> 02:24:35,560
do. Um it's not a perfect place to be

3955
02:24:35,560 --> 02:24:37,280
involved in the the criminal justice

3956
02:24:37,280 --> 02:24:38,560
system while trying to go through

3957
02:24:38,560 --> 02:24:40,760
substance abuse issues.

3958
02:24:40,760 --> 02:24:42,560
Um however, it happens, and we're

3959
02:24:42,560 --> 02:24:43,600
fortunate that we have great

3960
02:24:43,600 --> 02:24:45,680
partnerships, and the support that these

3961
02:24:45,680 --> 02:24:47,680
programs have have shared with this

3962
02:24:47,680 --> 02:24:50,320
community with my office, as well.

3963
02:24:50,320 --> 02:24:52,120
>> And I would just like to point out that

3964
02:24:52,120 --> 02:24:54,200
the health department did put in a

3965
02:24:54,200 --> 02:24:57,280
funding request, and I appreciate that

3966
02:24:57,280 --> 02:24:58,760
funding request. However, I feel like

3967
02:24:58,760 --> 02:25:01,440
those are being addressed through these

3968
02:25:01,440 --> 02:25:02,480
three

3969
02:25:02,480 --> 02:25:05,360
um resources, and if there's any way to

3970
02:25:05,360 --> 02:25:08,760
include the health department in in um

3971
02:25:08,760 --> 02:25:10,400
giving them another maybe bringing some

3972
02:25:10,400 --> 02:25:12,600
of those Narcan kits or something over

3973
02:25:12,600 --> 02:25:13,840
to them if they do have a different

3974
02:25:13,840 --> 02:25:16,720
demographic of people. Might be just a

3975
02:25:16,720 --> 02:25:18,320
thought just to include them in the

3976
02:25:18,320 --> 02:25:19,880
conversation because they're definitely

3977
02:25:19,880 --> 02:25:21,640
a partner with us, but even though we're

3978
02:25:21,640 --> 02:25:22,880
not going to give them any funding

3979
02:25:22,880 --> 02:25:24,880
today, I did want to recognize that, and

3980
02:25:24,880 --> 02:25:27,040
they they do do good program in Emery

3981
02:25:27,040 --> 02:25:28,960
and Carbon County. But, I think you guys

3982
02:25:28,960 --> 02:25:31,200
are doing a fantastic job here, and so

3983
02:25:31,200 --> 02:25:32,720
we want to keep that funding level the

3984
02:25:32,720 --> 02:25:34,360
same.

3985
02:25:34,360 --> 02:25:36,920
Any other comments?

3986
02:25:36,920 --> 02:25:39,880
Okay, those in favor?

3987
02:25:39,880 --> 02:25:41,720
All right. Thank you. You guys have a

3988
02:25:41,720 --> 02:25:42,600
good evening.

3989
02:25:42,600 --> 02:25:43,680
>> Thank you guys.

3990
02:25:43,680 --> 02:25:45,360
>> Thank you.

3991
02:25:45,360 --> 02:25:46,640
>> Okay,

3992
02:25:46,640 --> 02:25:48,080
we are on the 13th, which is the

3993
02:25:48,080 --> 02:25:50,280
approval of the 2026 certified tax

3994
02:25:50,280 --> 02:25:54,640
rates. And so, Gabe is back online.

3995
02:25:54,640 --> 02:25:54,880
All right.

3996
02:25:54,880 --> 02:25:56,720
>> Thank you, Chair. Um so, this is another

3997
02:25:56,720 --> 02:25:59,080
item that we see uh this time of year

3998
02:25:59,080 --> 02:26:01,040
every year, and that's approving the

3999
02:26:01,040 --> 02:26:03,440
certified tax rate. And so, once the

4000
02:26:03,440 --> 02:26:06,480
once Assessor Swasey and her office um

4001
02:26:06,480 --> 02:26:08,880
finishes up all of the valuations, um

4002
02:26:08,880 --> 02:26:10,360
and they're doing that right up until

4003
02:26:10,360 --> 02:26:11,800
the final hour. I'm sure all the

4004
02:26:11,800 --> 02:26:13,560
assessors across the state are. It's

4005
02:26:13,560 --> 02:26:15,480
quite a big undertaking.

4006
02:26:15,480 --> 02:26:17,320
Um we're ready to work with the State

4007
02:26:17,320 --> 02:26:20,680
Tax Commission to to set the rates. And

4008
02:26:20,680 --> 02:26:22,640
I tried to I tried to explain how that

4009
02:26:22,640 --> 02:26:24,400
rate is set in the in the most concise

4010
02:26:24,400 --> 02:26:30,480
way possible with a screen grab from the figures as they appear in the the um

4011
02:26:30,480 --> 02:26:32,840
certified tax rate portal that I that I

4012
02:26:32,840 --> 02:26:35,640
use to transfer all this information. Um

4013
02:26:35,640 --> 02:26:37,760
and essentially what it boils down to is

4014
02:26:37,760 --> 02:26:40,160
um there's a year-end budgeted revenue

4015
02:26:40,160 --> 02:26:42,840
from 2025 that comes from property tax

4016
02:26:42,840 --> 02:26:45,480
to support general operations.

4017
02:26:45,480 --> 02:26:47,480
Um added to that year-end budgeted

4018
02:26:47,480 --> 02:26:49,440
revenue is uh

4019
02:26:49,440 --> 02:26:51,840
the new grow are the new growth figures.

4020
02:26:51,840 --> 02:26:53,680
And so, that gives us this overall

4021
02:26:53,680 --> 02:26:56,960
certified tax rate and uh revenue. Uh

4022
02:26:56,960 --> 02:27:00,440
and then that amount is divided by the

4023
02:27:00,440 --> 02:27:02,760
overall value that the assessors come up

4024
02:27:02,760 --> 02:27:04,840
with across the entire county.

4025
02:27:04,840 --> 02:27:06,840
Um and then that gives us uh the

4026
02:27:06,840 --> 02:27:08,960
certified tax rate. And so, of course,

4027
02:27:08,960 --> 02:27:11,120
the value goes up every year, right? But

4028
02:27:11,120 --> 02:27:13,760
um our the yeah, the uh

4029
02:27:13,760 --> 02:27:16,000
the budgeted revenue that Grand County

4030
02:27:16,000 --> 02:27:18,360
um you know, has has we've we've stuck

4031
02:27:18,360 --> 02:27:20,400
with the the essentially the same amount

4032
02:27:20,400 --> 02:27:22,360
of budgeted revenue every year plus that

4033
02:27:22,360 --> 02:27:24,400
new growth that gets tacked on.

4034
02:27:24,400 --> 02:27:26,200
Um and so, that means that the tax rate

4035
02:27:26,200 --> 02:27:29,240
actually um goes down um every year

4036
02:27:29,240 --> 02:27:29,960
um

4037
02:27:29,960 --> 02:27:32,880
when as that value rises. Um

4038
02:27:32,880 --> 02:27:37,360
And so, yeah, that the ul- ultimately um

4039
02:27:37,360 --> 02:27:39,360
you know, this would be a We're also

4040
02:27:39,360 --> 02:27:41,680
approving here the certified tax rate

4041
02:27:41,680 --> 02:27:43,200
for library.

4042
02:27:43,200 --> 02:27:46,360
Um and there at this point there's no um

4043
02:27:46,360 --> 02:27:48,440
there's no contemplation by the library

4044
02:27:48,440 --> 02:27:51,040
or this commission uh to go through

4045
02:27:51,040 --> 02:27:53,200
truth truth and taxation and increase

4046
02:27:53,200 --> 02:27:54,880
that tax rate. Um

4047
02:27:54,880 --> 02:27:56,720
it seems like we'd all rather um

4048
02:27:56,720 --> 02:27:58,600
continue to let that tax rate decrease

4049
02:27:58,600 --> 02:28:00,760
for our residents. And

4050
02:28:00,760 --> 02:28:02,320
so that's all I would have to say about

4051
02:28:02,320 --> 02:28:04,560
that.

4052
02:28:04,560 --> 02:28:06,360
>> Thank you, Gabe. I appreciate that. Six

4053
02:28:06,360 --> 02:28:08,680
years in a row.

4054
02:28:08,680 --> 02:28:10,480
Decreased tax rate, that's pretty good.

4055
02:28:10,480 --> 02:28:11,000
That's a wonderful

4056
02:28:11,000 --> 02:28:12,240
>> Go ahead, Mike.

4057
02:28:12,240 --> 02:28:13,440
>> I'd like to make a motion. I move to

4058
02:28:13,440 --> 02:28:15,360
approve the final 2026 Grand County

4059
02:28:15,360 --> 02:28:17,200
certified tax rates as presented on the

4060
02:28:17,200 --> 02:28:20,520
form PT-693

4061
02:28:20,520 --> 02:28:23,000
for count Grand County operations and

4062
02:28:23,000 --> 02:28:25,080
library operations.

4063
02:28:25,080 --> 02:28:26,360
>> And Bill seconds, and Mike has a

4064
02:28:26,360 --> 02:28:27,000
comment.

4065
02:28:27,000 --> 02:28:27,720
>> Yep.

4066
02:28:27,720 --> 02:28:29,280
Uh Gabe, thanks for throwing up that uh

4067
02:28:29,280 --> 02:28:31,120
with the proposed uh rate certification,

4068
02:28:31,120 --> 02:28:33,440
Grand County will have lowered its

4069
02:28:33,440 --> 02:28:35,400
general operation property tax rate for

4070
02:28:35,400 --> 02:28:37,920
the sixth consecutive years. I I I

4071
02:28:37,920 --> 02:28:39,720
actually like seeing that.

4072
02:28:39,720 --> 02:28:42,480
Um a lot of our constituents

4073
02:28:42,480 --> 02:28:44,880
uh see their taxes going up. Uh

4074
02:28:44,880 --> 02:28:46,960
and tax rate is a little different than

4075
02:28:46,960 --> 02:28:49,720
assessed value on your house. Uh but

4076
02:28:49,720 --> 02:28:51,640
it's good to see that we're trying to

4077
02:28:51,640 --> 02:28:55,870
lower that tax rate in general.

4078
02:28:55,880 --> 02:28:56,920
» And Bill, did you have a comment as

4079
02:28:56,920 --> 02:28:57,360
well?

4080
02:28:57,360 --> 02:28:59,440
>> I think Mike covered it. I I think it's

4081
02:28:59,440 --> 02:29:01,680
important to make sure that the public

4082
02:29:01,680 --> 02:29:03,960
is aware that the tax rate

4083
02:29:03,960 --> 02:29:06,320
does go down yearly or has gone down

4084
02:29:06,320 --> 02:29:08,080
yearly, but the

4085
02:29:08,080 --> 02:29:10,600
home values are rising, which means

4086
02:29:10,600 --> 02:29:12,920
they're still paying more in taxes, but

4087
02:29:12,920 --> 02:29:18,310
at a lower rate than the previous year.

4088
02:29:18,320 --> 02:29:19,080
» Additional one?

4089
02:29:19,080 --> 02:29:21,840
>> Yeah, and that of Utah's 29 counties,

4090
02:29:21,840 --> 02:29:23,920
only I there's only five of them that

4091
02:29:23,920 --> 02:29:26,440
have a lower general operation property

4092
02:29:26,440 --> 02:29:29,320
tax than Grand County.

4093
02:29:29,320 --> 02:29:30,640
Go ahead, Brian.

4094
02:29:30,640 --> 02:29:31,880
>> But we do have some of the higher

4095
02:29:31,880 --> 02:29:32,840
property values.

4096
02:29:32,840 --> 02:29:33,604
>> Yes, we do.

4097
02:29:33,604 --> 02:29:35,360
>> [laughter]

4098
02:29:35,360 --> 02:29:37,440
>> Rates and values are different.

4099
02:29:37,440 --> 02:29:39,920
Okay? So, we have a first and a second

4100
02:29:39,920 --> 02:29:41,200
on this

4101
02:29:41,200 --> 02:29:43,600
and all in favor.

4102
02:29:43,600 --> 02:29:45,920
I. All right, that passes.

4103
02:29:45,920 --> 02:29:47,360
>> I thought the headline read tax is going

4104
02:29:47,360 --> 02:29:48,920
down.

4105
02:29:48,920 --> 02:29:50,160
>> Tax rate going

4106
02:29:50,160 --> 02:29:50,880
>> Rate. It's rate.

4107
02:29:50,880 --> 02:29:53,600
>> Tax rate.

4108
02:29:53,600 --> 02:29:57,680
>> All right, we're on to number 15, Moab

4109
02:29:57,680 --> 02:30:00,240
Office of Tourism specially event Wait a

4110
02:30:00,240 --> 02:30:03,120
minute. Number 14, Moab Office of

4111
02:30:03,120 --> 02:30:05,000
Tourism staffing presentation and

4112
02:30:05,000 --> 02:30:08,000
additional staffing request with Michael

4113
02:30:08,000 --> 02:30:09,400
Sullivan, our director of the Moab

4114
02:30:09,400 --> 02:30:17,710
Office of Tourism.

4115
02:30:17,720 --> 02:30:22,910
>> Hello.

4116
02:30:22,920 --> 02:30:24,200
» Um

4117
02:30:24,200 --> 02:30:26,640
I'm Nick Schletta, the director of the

4118
02:30:26,640 --> 02:30:28,440
Moab Office of Tourism.

4119
02:30:28,440 --> 02:30:30,040
Um

4120
02:30:30,040 --> 02:30:32,320
This next item, I was asked to present

4121
02:30:32,320 --> 02:30:34,600
the job description that was attached to

4122
02:30:34,600 --> 02:30:35,880
the item,

4123
02:30:35,880 --> 02:30:38,000
um as well as discuss discuss uh

4124
02:30:38,000 --> 02:30:44,470
staffing generally in the office.

4125
02:30:44,480 --> 02:30:49,840
Um I'll give you guys uh an overview of a finance update to help make this

4126
02:30:49,840 --> 02:30:51,080
decision.

4127
02:30:51,080 --> 02:30:54,520
Um review uh DMO org chart as well as

4128
02:30:54,520 --> 02:30:56,560
the current org chart for the Office of

4129
02:30:56,560 --> 02:30:57,800
Tourism.

4130
02:30:57,800 --> 02:31:01,000
Um present the um job, like I said,

4131
02:31:01,000 --> 02:31:02,600
attached to the item,

4132
02:31:02,600 --> 02:31:04,960
um and discuss some forthcoming requests

4133
02:31:04,960 --> 02:31:09,190
about uh staffing needs in the office.

4134
02:31:09,200 --> 02:31:11,720
So, first um

4135
02:31:11,720 --> 02:31:14,720
screen. Um just a quick finance update

4136
02:31:14,720 --> 02:31:16,240
and a reminder,

4137
02:31:16,240 --> 02:31:18,400
um often times the funding source for

4138
02:31:18,400 --> 02:31:20,880
the Office of Tourism

4139
02:31:20,880 --> 02:31:22,800
is confused with things like the general

4140
02:31:22,800 --> 02:31:23,680
fund,

4141
02:31:23,680 --> 02:31:25,680
um but our office is funded by uh

4142
02:31:25,680 --> 02:31:28,000
transient room tax, TRT, which refer to

4143
02:31:28,000 --> 02:31:29,400
as TRT.

4144
02:31:29,400 --> 02:31:31,800
Um this year, the maximum amount of TRT

4145
02:31:31,800 --> 02:31:36,560
was allocated to mitigation. So, 56%

4146
02:31:36,560 --> 02:31:37,400
um

4147
02:31:37,400 --> 02:31:39,480
was allocated to mitigation sources,

4148
02:31:39,480 --> 02:31:42,280
i.e., not the Mobile Office of Tourism.

4149
02:31:42,280 --> 02:31:44,960
Um the minimum was allocated to our

4150
02:31:44,960 --> 02:31:47,480
office, 44%.

4151
02:31:47,480 --> 02:31:49,440
Um and um

4152
02:31:49,440 --> 02:31:51,080
you know,

4153
02:31:51,080 --> 02:31:52,800
the TRT funds that can be used for

4154
02:31:52,800 --> 02:31:55,840
promotion can only be used for

4155
02:31:55,840 --> 02:31:57,520
establishing and promoting tourism,

4156
02:31:57,520 --> 02:32:00,320
recreation, development, conventions.

4157
02:32:00,320 --> 02:32:03,160
Um and our office is overseen by the

4158
02:32:03,160 --> 02:32:07,040
MTAP board, uh Tourism Advisory Board.

4159
02:32:07,040 --> 02:32:09,320
Um so far this year,

4160
02:32:09,320 --> 02:32:11,480
uh tax disbursements January through May

4161
02:32:11,480 --> 02:32:14,480
are up 27% over the projection.

4162
02:32:14,480 --> 02:32:17,440
We collected 5.7 million through May of

4163
02:32:17,440 --> 02:32:20,960
2026, and that's an additional 1.25

4164
02:32:20,960 --> 02:32:24,390
million for the year.

4165
02:32:24,400 --> 02:32:26,200
Um

4166
02:32:26,200 --> 02:32:28,240
This uh um

4167
02:32:28,240 --> 02:32:30,680
job description, um

4168
02:32:30,680 --> 02:32:31,960
the

4169
02:32:31,960 --> 02:32:34,480
funding source will be in the

4170
02:32:34,480 --> 02:32:37,160
salary and budget line items for the

4171
02:32:37,160 --> 02:32:38,920
Office of Tourism. This year, we

4172
02:32:38,920 --> 02:32:41,080
budgeted 394,000

4173
02:32:41,080 --> 02:32:43,160
for salary and budgets.

4174
02:32:43,160 --> 02:32:46,240
Excuse me, and benefits. Um

4175
02:32:46,240 --> 02:32:48,880
and with

4176
02:32:48,880 --> 02:32:51,480
uh our current staff of two,

4177
02:32:51,480 --> 02:32:52,120
um

4178
02:32:52,120 --> 02:32:56,120
we will be left over with 146,000

4179
02:32:56,120 --> 02:32:58,920
in salary and benefits for the year.

4180
02:32:58,920 --> 02:33:00,240
Uh and I just give you that number so

4181
02:33:00,240 --> 02:33:01,920
that if you're approving this position,

4182
02:33:01,920 --> 02:33:03,920
you can see that uh we budgeted for

4183
02:33:03,920 --> 02:33:05,960
this.

4184
02:33:05,960 --> 02:33:08,710
Um

4185
02:33:08,720 --> 02:33:09,640
The

4186
02:33:09,640 --> 02:33:11,760
uh anticipated salary for the assistant

4187
02:33:11,760 --> 02:33:13,440
is 55,000

4188
02:33:13,440 --> 02:33:15,280
to 77,000

4189
02:33:15,280 --> 02:33:19,670
and 35,000 for benefits.

4190
02:33:19,680 --> 02:33:21,440
Um I made this presentation to the

4191
02:33:21,440 --> 02:33:23,600
Mobile Tour Tourism Advisory Board as

4192
02:33:23,600 --> 02:33:25,120
well last week.

4193
02:33:25,120 --> 02:33:26,400
Um

4194
02:33:26,400 --> 02:33:27,320
but

4195
02:33:27,320 --> 02:33:28,640
>> enlarged

4196
02:33:28,640 --> 02:33:29,120
>> Pardon?

4197
02:33:29,120 --> 02:33:31,440
>> Can that be enlarged?

4198
02:33:31,440 --> 02:33:34,240
>> Uh the org chart?

4199
02:33:34,240 --> 02:33:36,520
No, so it's I mean Google Slides.

4200
02:33:36,520 --> 02:33:37,240
>> Okay.

4201
02:33:37,240 --> 02:33:39,240
>> Um is there something in particular you

4202
02:33:39,240 --> 02:33:39,440
want?

4203
02:33:39,440 --> 02:33:41,720
>> He's got it. Never mind. He's got it.

4204
02:33:41,720 --> 02:33:43,000
Right there.

4205
02:33:43,000 --> 02:33:44,800
I did just thought I wasn't readable

4206
02:33:44,800 --> 02:33:46,840
from here.

4207
02:33:46,840 --> 02:33:50,280
>> Um this is just an example DMO chart.

4208
02:33:50,280 --> 02:33:53,320
I've been thinking about how DMOs across

4209
02:33:53,320 --> 02:33:54,480
the country and the world are

4210
02:33:54,480 --> 02:33:56,720
structured. Um this is an example from

4211
02:33:56,720 --> 02:33:58,800
the Utah Office of Tourism.

4212
02:33:58,800 --> 02:34:01,680
Um and I think that these verticals as

4213
02:34:01,680 --> 02:34:03,520
sort of levers that the office can pull

4214
02:34:03,520 --> 02:34:07,200
to achieve its objectives. Um at the top

4215
02:34:07,200 --> 02:34:09,600
you can see there's leadership and then

4216
02:34:09,600 --> 02:34:11,840
moving from left to right

4217
02:34:11,840 --> 02:34:14,680
data, marketing including paid, earned,

4218
02:34:14,680 --> 02:34:17,040
and owned functions,

4219
02:34:17,040 --> 02:34:19,280
um global markets,

4220
02:34:19,280 --> 02:34:21,400
community relations, [clears throat]

4221
02:34:21,400 --> 02:34:26,150
strategy, and film.

4222
02:34:26,160 --> 02:34:28,400
Um this is the Moab Office of Tourism's

4223
02:34:28,400 --> 02:34:30,120
organizational chart.

4224
02:34:30,120 --> 02:34:32,600
Um again with the sorts of levers that I

4225
02:34:32,600 --> 02:34:34,440
was referring to

4226
02:34:34,440 --> 02:34:35,640
um

4227
02:34:35,640 --> 02:34:37,920
listed for the staff that we have

4228
02:34:37,920 --> 02:34:39,000
currently.

4229
02:34:39,000 --> 02:34:41,200
Um so leadership at the top,

4230
02:34:41,200 --> 02:34:43,520
um the position uh

4231
02:34:43,520 --> 02:34:45,320
that's attached to this item is an

4232
02:34:45,320 --> 02:34:47,760
administrative assistant position.

4233
02:34:47,760 --> 02:34:49,840
Um under [clears throat] that

4234
02:34:49,840 --> 02:34:52,560
on the left is my previous position in

4235
02:34:52,560 --> 02:34:53,800
the office

4236
02:34:53,800 --> 02:34:57,200
um which covered marketing, paid media,

4237
02:34:57,200 --> 02:34:59,320
website or owned media,

4238
02:34:59,320 --> 02:35:00,880
um and strategy.

4239
02:35:00,880 --> 02:35:04,360
Um Ally Hartford also works across

4240
02:35:04,360 --> 02:35:06,480
marketing and global markets.

4241
02:35:06,480 --> 02:35:09,640
Um the office previously had a position

4242
02:35:09,640 --> 02:35:12,080
um that covered data and community

4243
02:35:12,080 --> 02:35:14,480
relations, which is now vacant.

4244
02:35:14,480 --> 02:35:16,280
Um and Keegan to

4245
02:35:16,280 --> 02:35:17,720
film and

4246
02:35:17,720 --> 02:35:23,670
marketing related to film.

4247
02:35:23,680 --> 02:35:26,080
Um so this job description

4248
02:35:26,080 --> 02:35:27,080
um

4249
02:35:27,080 --> 02:35:29,440
I want to note that all of the

4250
02:35:29,440 --> 02:35:31,080
responsibilities in the description are

4251
02:35:31,080 --> 02:35:33,480
done currently by the office and nothing

4252
02:35:33,480 --> 02:35:37,000
is new. Um this just uh

4253
02:35:37,000 --> 02:35:39,000
in addition to the job description to to

4254
02:35:39,000 --> 02:35:41,240
any of the job descriptions that exist.

4255
02:35:41,240 --> 02:35:43,120
Um it supports the office across all of

4256
02:35:43,120 --> 02:35:45,080
these functions, operations, and then I

4257
02:35:45,080 --> 02:35:46,480
need to finance

4258
02:35:46,480 --> 02:35:48,200
government and board support, visitor

4259
02:35:48,200 --> 02:35:50,200
relations, global markets and

4260
02:35:50,200 --> 02:35:51,840
familiarization,

4261
02:35:51,840 --> 02:35:55,950
um marketing and film.

4262
02:35:55,960 --> 02:35:57,840
Um so reasons to approve this

4263
02:35:57,840 --> 02:36:00,720
description uh is to fill a vacant role.

4264
02:36:00,720 --> 02:36:02,800
Um this office had a

4265
02:36:02,800 --> 02:36:04,120
administrative assistant position

4266
02:36:04,120 --> 02:36:07,240
previously um a number of years ago.

4267
02:36:07,240 --> 02:36:08,400
Um

4268
02:36:08,400 --> 02:36:10,720
Like I said, handles uh tasks currently

4269
02:36:10,720 --> 02:36:13,480
being performed by staff. Um and it is

4270
02:36:13,480 --> 02:36:17,360
in budget for 2026.

4271
02:36:17,360 --> 02:36:18,920
Um I can pause here and answer

4272
02:36:18,920 --> 02:36:21,280
questions. Um

4273
02:36:21,280 --> 02:36:25,280
The host motion is on this slide. Um

4274
02:36:25,280 --> 02:36:27,880
The next section I'll just talk about

4275
02:36:27,880 --> 02:36:30,400
a few other

4276
02:36:30,400 --> 02:36:32,600
staffing needs that we have on hand.

4277
02:36:32,600 --> 02:36:33,440
>> I think Steve might have a lot of

4278
02:36:33,440 --> 02:36:33,960
questions.

4279
02:36:33,960 --> 02:36:37,120
>> So if if you go back to page nine,

4280
02:36:37,120 --> 02:36:40,400
it lists that there's two

4281
02:36:40,400 --> 02:36:44,280
It says three vacancies on it.

4282
02:36:44,280 --> 02:36:45,840
>> All right. Our current org chart?

4283
02:36:45,840 --> 02:36:47,040
>> Yeah.

4284
02:36:47,040 --> 02:36:49,040
There are three vacancies in that in

4285
02:36:49,040 --> 02:36:50,840
your case's office?

4286
02:36:50,840 --> 02:36:52,880
>> Tess might be able to speak to this um

4287
02:36:52,880 --> 02:36:54,600
if she's in the audience.

4288
02:36:54,600 --> 02:36:57,200
Um but uh the administrative assistant

4289
02:36:57,200 --> 02:36:59,240
position existed previously in the

4290
02:36:59,240 --> 02:36:59,960
office.

4291
02:36:59,960 --> 02:37:02,760
>> Right. It was It was combined into the

4292
02:37:02,760 --> 02:37:05,920
into one of the previous positions

4293
02:37:05,920 --> 02:37:08,000
previously when when Skyway

4294
02:37:08,000 --> 02:37:10,280
>> Yeah, I think that it changed into an an

4295
02:37:10,280 --> 02:37:12,200
assistant marketing director.

4296
02:37:12,200 --> 02:37:13,360
>> Right. Yeah, okay.

4297
02:37:13,360 --> 02:37:13,680
I

4298
02:37:13,680 --> 02:37:14,840
>> I just wanted to make sure that the

4299
02:37:14,840 --> 02:37:16,320
information was correct.

4300
02:37:16,320 --> 02:37:19,080
>> That there is whether there is three

4301
02:37:19,080 --> 02:37:21,160
actual vacancies

4302
02:37:21,160 --> 02:37:23,440
right now.

4303
02:37:23,440 --> 02:37:25,360
Whether or not there are three actual

4304
02:37:25,360 --> 02:37:26,800
vacancies.

4305
02:37:26,800 --> 02:37:28,240
>> Um

4306
02:37:28,240 --> 02:37:31,560
so, the answer to that is no. And the

4307
02:37:31,560 --> 02:37:34,920
reason for that is the administrative

4308
02:37:34,920 --> 02:37:37,400
there is this isn't a vacant position

4309
02:37:37,400 --> 02:37:38,840
that we budgeted for. The reason for

4310
02:37:38,840 --> 02:37:42,640
that is um the former administrative

4311
02:37:42,640 --> 02:37:44,240
assistant position which was then rolled

4312
02:37:44,240 --> 02:37:46,320
into the assistant director position was

4313
02:37:46,320 --> 02:37:48,280
specifically assistant director of

4314
02:37:48,280 --> 02:37:50,200
economic development. That position of

4315
02:37:50,200 --> 02:37:51,480
course went away when we restructured

4316
02:37:51,480 --> 02:37:52,120
the

4317
02:37:52,120 --> 02:37:54,720
department in 2025 and therefore that

4318
02:37:54,720 --> 02:37:56,680
position essentially

4319
02:37:56,680 --> 02:37:57,840
went away with

4320
02:37:57,840 --> 02:37:59,800
that. Instead, the previous structure of

4321
02:37:59,800 --> 02:38:01,480
this department has directly included an

4322
02:38:01,480 --> 02:38:02,960
administrative assistant.

4323
02:38:02,960 --> 02:38:04,560
>> Right. But, the the re- the reason why I

4324
02:38:04,560 --> 02:38:06,440
wanted to just make sure we were being

4325
02:38:06,440 --> 02:38:08,080
exceptionally accurate was because there

4326
02:38:08,080 --> 02:38:10,440
was multiple reasons as why we rolled

4327
02:38:10,440 --> 02:38:12,840
that one away. I don't I don't want to

4328
02:38:12,840 --> 02:38:14,760
go I don't want to dig back into it, but

4329
02:38:14,760 --> 02:38:16,000
it was based on the allocation of the

4330
02:38:16,000 --> 02:38:17,040
time

4331
02:38:17,040 --> 02:38:18,520
at the county.

4332
02:38:18,520 --> 02:38:19,680
I don't know.

4333
02:38:19,680 --> 02:38:21,539
It was the audit and everything else.

4334
02:38:21,539 --> 02:38:21,720
>> [cough]

4335
02:38:21,720 --> 02:38:22,520
>> So,

4336
02:38:22,520 --> 02:38:23,800
I just want to make make sure it was

4337
02:38:23,800 --> 02:38:25,440
clear whether there are vacancies or

4338
02:38:25,440 --> 02:38:26,240
not.

4339
02:38:26,240 --> 02:38:27,640
>> Thank you.

4340
02:38:27,640 --> 02:38:28,744
>> Mike.

4341
02:38:28,744 --> 02:38:29,640
>> [clears throat]

4342
02:38:29,640 --> 02:38:30,320
>> Okay.

4343
02:38:30,320 --> 02:38:30,800
>> I'm allergic.

4344
02:38:30,800 --> 02:38:32,120
>> Okay. Uh so, the

4345
02:38:32,120 --> 02:38:34,040
>> I'm allergic to this place. I think it's

4346
02:38:34,040 --> 02:38:35,800
the carpet.

4347
02:38:35,800 --> 02:38:38,040
>> I I like your explanation of approved

4348
02:38:38,040 --> 02:38:40,200
and within budget and the funding source

4349
02:38:40,200 --> 02:38:41,760
being TRT.

4350
02:38:41,760 --> 02:38:44,800
Uh with that, I understand most things

4351
02:38:44,800 --> 02:38:46,240
that are funded by T-

4352
02:38:46,240 --> 02:38:48,160
TRT like salary

4353
02:38:48,160 --> 02:38:50,760
side of it or is the benefit side of it

4354
02:38:50,760 --> 02:38:52,840
funded by TRT also?

4355
02:38:52,840 --> 02:38:54,440
Or is that a county fund on that one?

4356
02:38:54,440 --> 02:38:56,320
>> No, it's it's also funded by benefits.

4357
02:38:56,320 --> 02:38:58,600
So, so the the cost and entirety of

4358
02:38:58,600 --> 02:39:00,880
personnel is funded by TRT if

4359
02:39:00,880 --> 02:39:02,360
they're within the

4360
02:39:02,360 --> 02:39:03,160
office of tourism.

4361
02:39:03,160 --> 02:39:04,640
>> Yep. Just wanted to make sure.

4362
02:39:04,640 --> 02:39:06,920
>> Thank you.

4363
02:39:06,920 --> 02:39:09,040
Mary just you comments love?

4364
02:39:09,040 --> 02:39:10,665
>> I just wanted to say that

4365
02:39:10,665 --> 02:39:11,240
>> [clears throat]

4366
02:39:11,240 --> 02:39:13,520
>> this this office has gone through many

4367
02:39:13,520 --> 02:39:16,800
changes in the last 12 years, but when I

4368
02:39:16,800 --> 02:39:19,080
came when I got on board, you know, I

4369
02:39:19,080 --> 02:39:20,880
came on and it's just the office of

4370
02:39:20,880 --> 02:39:22,560
tourism. It was at the

4371
02:39:22,560 --> 02:39:25,440
office of economic development. And at

4372
02:39:25,440 --> 02:39:28,120
that time, they had four members on the

4373
02:39:28,120 --> 02:39:30,840
staff.

4374
02:39:30,840 --> 02:39:33,360
And that was prior to the economic

4375
02:39:33,360 --> 02:39:35,160
opportunity or

4376
02:39:35,160 --> 02:39:36,880
economic development. And that

4377
02:39:36,880 --> 02:39:38,120
combination.

4378
02:39:38,120 --> 02:39:40,200
So, they are very

4379
02:39:40,200 --> 02:39:43,040
they're they're never a staff they have

4380
02:39:43,040 --> 02:39:44,520
is

4381
02:39:44,520 --> 02:39:46,640
very much decreased.

4382
02:39:46,640 --> 02:39:49,600
And they did not have Phil.

4383
02:39:49,600 --> 02:39:52,400
was at the city.

4384
02:39:52,400 --> 02:39:54,360
So,

4385
02:39:54,360 --> 02:39:57,760
compared to where we were 12 years ago

4386
02:39:57,760 --> 02:40:00,840
and their work has increased, we are

4387
02:40:00,840 --> 02:40:04,160
probably functioning with less than half

4388
02:40:04,160 --> 02:40:05,960
of their functional less than half of

4389
02:40:05,960 --> 02:40:08,960
the staff they were.

4390
02:40:08,960 --> 02:40:10,400
So, I guess with that statement, I'd

4391
02:40:10,400 --> 02:40:13,600
like to make a motion that we fund

4392
02:40:13,600 --> 02:40:15,320
this vacancy [laughter]

4393
02:40:15,320 --> 02:40:18,360
that will be paid for through city

4394
02:40:18,360 --> 02:40:20,520
funding.

4395
02:40:20,520 --> 02:40:21,400
>> I'll second that.

4396
02:40:21,400 --> 02:40:22,720
>> Okay. And did you have a comment, too?

4397
02:40:22,720 --> 02:40:23,800
Cuz I saw you had to come up.

4398
02:40:23,800 --> 02:40:26,160
>> Yes, I do have. Um

4399
02:40:26,160 --> 02:40:28,240
Mine's a little bit different than

4400
02:40:28,240 --> 02:40:31,080
Mary's, but Mick, I um I appreciate the

4401
02:40:31,080 --> 02:40:32,840
job you're doing over there and I hear

4402
02:40:32,840 --> 02:40:34,360
nothing but good that comes out of

4403
02:40:34,360 --> 02:40:35,600
there.

4404
02:40:35,600 --> 02:40:37,320
And of course, I remember when we went

4405
02:40:37,320 --> 02:40:38,720
through the whole hiring thing, I was

4406
02:40:38,720 --> 02:40:41,480
just glad to see you got that job.

4407
02:40:41,480 --> 02:40:43,360
But

4408
02:40:43,360 --> 02:40:46,000
regardless of what the staff looked like

4409
02:40:46,000 --> 02:40:49,160
in the past, I am a proponent of smaller

4410
02:40:49,160 --> 02:40:50,400
government.

4411
02:40:50,400 --> 02:40:53,840
And I always will be. Now, if your staff

4412
02:40:53,840 --> 02:40:56,000
needs to grow and I understand that it

4413
02:40:56,000 --> 02:40:57,840
does, you need that administrative

4414
02:40:57,840 --> 02:41:00,000
assistant. I know the airport needs one.

4415
02:41:00,000 --> 02:41:02,520
There's I mean a full-time one, right?

4416
02:41:02,520 --> 02:41:06,200
I get that portion. When we grow our

4417
02:41:06,200 --> 02:41:08,520
staff in this county,

4418
02:41:08,520 --> 02:41:10,880
the benefits that the

4419
02:41:10,880 --> 02:41:13,240
constituents receive need to grow with

4420
02:41:13,240 --> 02:41:15,400
it, right? And that's that's my only

4421
02:41:15,400 --> 02:41:20,240
request as this this department grows,

4422
02:41:20,240 --> 02:41:22,920
that the performance and the metrics

4423
02:41:22,920 --> 02:41:24,800
that come out of there and the

4424
02:41:24,800 --> 02:41:27,520
businesses and the local workers and

4425
02:41:27,520 --> 02:41:30,240
everybody that that benefits from an

4426
02:41:30,240 --> 02:41:32,760
economy here that isn't

4427
02:41:32,760 --> 02:41:35,080
a negative one, that that's that that

4428
02:41:35,080 --> 02:41:38,280
moves out with your as your department

4429
02:41:38,280 --> 02:41:40,320
expands. I hope I'm making sense. I'm

4430
02:41:40,320 --> 02:41:42,040
going about it probably

4431
02:41:42,040 --> 02:41:43,640
I won't use the word I thought about,

4432
02:41:43,640 --> 02:41:45,960
but backwards, right? But that's all I'm

4433
02:41:45,960 --> 02:41:48,520
trying to communicate is let's not grow

4434
02:41:48,520 --> 02:41:49,680
our

4435
02:41:49,680 --> 02:41:52,080
staff to grow it because we've got a

4436
02:41:52,080 --> 02:41:54,040
extra budget coming in. Let's grow it

4437
02:41:54,040 --> 02:41:57,120
because our entire community sees that

4438
02:41:57,120 --> 02:42:01,080
benefit, right? That is coming out of your office, and I

4439
02:42:01,080 --> 02:42:02,560
commend you for what's coming out of

4440
02:42:02,560 --> 02:42:04,000
there. That's what I'm meaning when I'm

4441
02:42:04,000 --> 02:42:06,040
trying to say.

4442
02:42:06,040 --> 02:42:07,517
>> Right.

4443
02:42:07,517 --> 02:42:07,720
>> [clears throat]

4444
02:42:07,720 --> 02:42:09,280
>> Yeah, no, just just a couple of quick

4445
02:42:09,280 --> 02:42:11,720
things. So, it it it's not so much just

4446
02:42:11,720 --> 02:42:13,440
growth that we're looking at in that

4447
02:42:13,440 --> 02:42:15,160
office. It really is a complete

4448
02:42:15,160 --> 02:42:17,320
redesign. The world of marketing has

4449
02:42:17,320 --> 02:42:19,320
changed from, you know, just just the

4450
02:42:19,320 --> 02:42:21,280
last 2 years. The way that we do

4451
02:42:21,280 --> 02:42:22,840
business is different now than the way

4452
02:42:22,840 --> 02:42:25,040
that we did business previously. So,

4453
02:42:25,040 --> 02:42:26,280
thanks, Matt, for coming in here and

4454
02:42:26,280 --> 02:42:27,960
kind of sharing your vision of how that

4455
02:42:27,960 --> 02:42:30,080
office is going to need to be redesigned

4456
02:42:30,080 --> 02:42:31,280
to match the way that we're doing

4457
02:42:31,280 --> 02:42:34,360
business today. Um however, I don't want

4458
02:42:34,360 --> 02:42:35,560
to [clears throat] gloss over something

4459
02:42:35,560 --> 02:42:38,400
that was in this right here. Overall tax

4460
02:42:38,400 --> 02:42:42,080
collection is up 27%

4461
02:42:42,080 --> 02:42:44,440
over projection, May through January

4462
02:42:44,440 --> 02:42:45,920
disbursement.

4463
02:42:45,920 --> 02:42:48,800
Collected 5.7 million through May of

4464
02:42:48,800 --> 02:42:50,320
2026.

4465
02:42:50,320 --> 02:42:51,680
That's projections that we had

4466
02:42:51,680 --> 02:42:54,680
projections of 4.45 million. That's an

4467
02:42:54,680 --> 02:42:58,800
additional 1.25 million dollars. Right?

4468
02:42:58,800 --> 02:43:03,200
You asked about benefits right there to our constituents. I mean, I'll talk

4469
02:43:03,200 --> 02:43:04,920
about benefits all day about that. That

4470
02:43:04,920 --> 02:43:06,640
means that's more money inside of every

4471
02:43:06,640 --> 02:43:09,080
single person's pocket, right there.

4472
02:43:09,080 --> 02:43:11,240
That's that's more services that we're

4473
02:43:11,240 --> 02:43:12,680
able to provide to all of our

4474
02:43:12,680 --> 02:43:15,040
constituents. I mean, that's a promise

4475
02:43:15,040 --> 02:43:17,280
right there of of a future opportunity

4476
02:43:17,280 --> 02:43:18,520
for all of our people here in this

4477
02:43:18,520 --> 02:43:20,800
community. So, whatever work that we're

4478
02:43:20,800 --> 02:43:23,000
doing in there, you guys are affecting

4479
02:43:23,000 --> 02:43:25,160
change and I thank you for it.

4480
02:43:25,160 --> 02:43:27,920
>> Yeah, I agree.

4481
02:43:27,920 --> 02:43:29,520
>> Okay.

4482
02:43:29,520 --> 02:43:30,760
Um I know [clears throat] that he had

4483
02:43:30,760 --> 02:43:32,120
some more that he wanted to, but we have

4484
02:43:32,120 --> 02:43:35,280
a we have a motion in a second. So, we

4485
02:43:35,280 --> 02:43:36,560
can go ahead and let's call that vote

4486
02:43:36,560 --> 02:43:38,640
and then he can finish his presentation.

4487
02:43:38,640 --> 02:43:39,040
>> Sure.

4488
02:43:39,040 --> 02:43:40,120
>> Okay.

4489
02:43:40,120 --> 02:43:41,080
Is there

4490
02:43:41,080 --> 02:43:44,120
a- all in favor of motion?

4491
02:43:44,120 --> 02:43:44,680
>> I.

4492
02:43:44,680 --> 02:43:45,640
>> Okay.

4493
02:43:45,640 --> 02:43:46,920
That passes by

4494
02:43:46,920 --> 02:43:48,960
with two abstentions. And then go ahead

4495
02:43:48,960 --> 02:43:50,720
and finish your presentation.

4496
02:43:50,720 --> 02:43:51,240
>> Okay.

4497
02:43:51,240 --> 02:43:52,120
>> Yep.

4498
02:43:52,120 --> 02:43:53,520
>> Um

4499
02:43:53,520 --> 02:43:56,320
Uh thank you for for putting

4500
02:43:56,320 --> 02:43:57,880
uh job description uh that would be

4501
02:43:57,880 --> 02:44:00,080
incredibly helpful to our office.

4502
02:44:00,080 --> 02:44:01,120
Um

4503
02:44:01,120 --> 02:44:02,720
future requests as we think about the

4504
02:44:02,720 --> 02:44:04,840
office and you know, I am taking into

4505
02:44:04,840 --> 02:44:06,800
consideration

4506
02:44:06,800 --> 02:44:08,600
elements of what Bill's talking about

4507
02:44:08,600 --> 02:44:10,960
and and other um

4508
02:44:10,960 --> 02:44:13,840
ideas about how we staff these things. I

4509
02:44:13,840 --> 02:44:16,200
think instead of the idea of just

4510
02:44:16,200 --> 02:44:17,880
looking at staffing and growing things,

4511
02:44:17,880 --> 02:44:21,280
I think establishing business objectives

4512
02:44:21,280 --> 02:44:22,680
and um

4513
02:44:22,680 --> 02:44:24,920
performance indicators are kind of where

4514
02:44:24,920 --> 02:44:27,360
we start. And like I said, as we look at

4515
02:44:27,360 --> 02:44:29,440
org charts and people and different ways

4516
02:44:29,440 --> 02:44:30,800
to achieve those things, that will kind

4517
02:44:30,800 --> 02:44:33,400
of answer the um

4518
02:44:33,400 --> 02:44:33,960
uh

4519
02:44:33,960 --> 02:44:35,520
grow grow the office in terms of

4520
02:44:35,520 --> 02:44:37,520
staffing or

4521
02:44:37,520 --> 02:44:38,640
uh

4522
02:44:38,640 --> 02:44:40,520
kind of I like to refer to it as pulling

4523
02:44:40,520 --> 02:44:42,480
those level levers of those various

4524
02:44:42,480 --> 02:44:43,840
verticals.

4525
02:44:43,840 --> 02:44:45,800
Um so, if there are three areas that I

4526
02:44:45,800 --> 02:44:47,040
think that we could use additional

4527
02:44:47,040 --> 02:44:48,680
support. Um

4528
02:44:48,680 --> 02:44:50,480
you know, I've talked with Tess um and

4529
02:44:50,480 --> 02:44:52,680
also Commission Admin that the office

4530
02:44:52,680 --> 02:44:54,720
can get the support. I don't necessarily

4531
02:44:54,720 --> 02:44:56,320
think that it needs to be full-time

4532
02:44:56,320 --> 02:44:58,480
support in perpetuity.

4533
02:44:58,480 --> 02:45:00,720
Um, so we can staff some of these things

4534
02:45:00,720 --> 02:45:03,480
through contract work, temporary work,

4535
02:45:03,480 --> 02:45:05,800
or potentially full-time in-person work,

4536
02:45:05,800 --> 02:45:07,760
or maybe remote work.

4537
02:45:07,760 --> 02:45:11,160
Um, so but I just wanted to to

4538
02:45:11,160 --> 02:45:13,240
present these ideas to you because

4539
02:45:13,240 --> 02:45:15,440
that's the way to talk about my ideas

4540
02:45:15,440 --> 02:45:17,600
for staffing generally. Um, so the first

4541
02:45:17,600 --> 02:45:19,720
is paid media staffing.

4542
02:45:19,720 --> 02:45:20,280
Um,

4543
02:45:20,280 --> 02:45:22,320
we're spending $1.7 million on paid

4544
02:45:22,320 --> 02:45:26,280
media this year. Um, that work is

4545
02:45:26,280 --> 02:45:27,880
coming up with ads and tactics,

4546
02:45:27,880 --> 02:45:30,200
reviewing those ads, reviewing the

4547
02:45:30,200 --> 02:45:32,200
performance of those things,

4548
02:45:32,200 --> 02:45:35,520
um, and additional support in getting

4549
02:45:35,520 --> 02:45:37,400
ads out and looking at different ways

4550
02:45:37,400 --> 02:45:39,360
that we can attract visitors um, would

4551
02:45:39,360 --> 02:45:42,080
be helpful um, to the office. They'd be

4552
02:45:42,080 --> 02:45:44,640
a point of contact for paid media,

4553
02:45:44,640 --> 02:45:46,040
uh, set up

4554
02:45:46,040 --> 02:45:47,520
uh, organizational documents for the

4555
02:45:47,520 --> 02:45:49,960
office, and then consider reviewing the

4556
02:45:49,960 --> 02:45:51,680
digital tactics, advertisements, and

4557
02:45:51,680 --> 02:45:53,400
reporting on investments.

4558
02:45:53,400 --> 02:45:55,280
Um, we're also going through a rebrand,

4559
02:45:55,280 --> 02:45:56,880
so we're going to inheriting new

4560
02:45:56,880 --> 02:45:58,160
creative,

4561
02:45:58,160 --> 02:46:00,840
so overseeing that brand rollout and

4562
02:46:00,840 --> 02:46:03,360
making sure it's consistent with

4563
02:46:03,360 --> 02:46:05,680
that strategy would be helpful.

4564
02:46:05,680 --> 02:46:07,640
Um, and senior experience would be

4565
02:46:07,640 --> 02:46:09,800
helpful in

4566
02:46:09,800 --> 02:46:12,880
paid media. So,

4567
02:46:12,880 --> 02:46:14,680
you know, we definitely have

4568
02:46:14,680 --> 02:46:16,880
room to grow with the sort of support we

4569
02:46:16,880 --> 02:46:18,960
could have with junior staff,

4570
02:46:18,960 --> 02:46:20,520
um, but somebody that has

4571
02:46:20,520 --> 02:46:21,960
experience [clears throat] in placing

4572
02:46:21,960 --> 02:46:24,200
paid media specifically in tourism would

4573
02:46:24,200 --> 02:46:27,280
be helpful to our office.

4574
02:46:27,280 --> 02:46:29,440
Um, the second is global market staffing

4575
02:46:29,440 --> 02:46:31,360
support.

4576
02:46:31,360 --> 02:46:33,240
Global markets is kind of an industry in

4577
02:46:33,240 --> 02:46:35,480
itself in the tourism

4578
02:46:35,480 --> 02:46:36,600
industry.

4579
02:46:36,600 --> 02:46:38,320
Um,

4580
02:46:38,320 --> 02:46:40,240
uh, specifically

4581
02:46:40,240 --> 02:46:41,520
the

4582
02:46:41,520 --> 02:46:43,240
international visitors come at

4583
02:46:43,240 --> 02:46:44,360
particular times that could be

4584
02:46:44,360 --> 02:46:47,480
beneficial to to go out in Grant County.

4585
02:46:47,480 --> 02:46:49,040
Um, I'm looking at

4586
02:46:49,040 --> 02:46:51,480
particularly July and August when a lot

4587
02:46:51,480 --> 02:46:53,880
of European visitors visit. We have kind

4588
02:46:53,880 --> 02:46:56,120
of a dip in visitation in those months.

4589
02:46:56,120 --> 02:46:57,640
And then an investment in global markets

4590
02:46:57,640 --> 02:47:00,440
could help us attract visitors through

4591
02:47:00,440 --> 02:47:01,800
that period.

4592
02:47:01,800 --> 02:47:02,840
Um

4593
02:47:02,840 --> 02:47:04,600
So this is attending trade shows, but

4594
02:47:04,600 --> 02:47:08,960
also interacting with tour operators and really building out that

4595
02:47:08,960 --> 02:47:10,480
line of business.

4596
02:47:10,480 --> 02:47:11,640
Um

4597
02:47:11,640 --> 02:47:13,280
This work would include identifying the

4598
02:47:13,280 --> 02:47:14,600
markets that we want to target and

4599
02:47:14,600 --> 02:47:15,920
strategy

4600
02:47:15,920 --> 02:47:18,080
set up again organizational documents to

4601
02:47:18,080 --> 02:47:20,560
track success over time

4602
02:47:20,560 --> 02:47:22,000
and then attend and execute the

4603
02:47:22,000 --> 02:47:24,520
strategy.

4604
02:47:24,520 --> 02:47:26,400
Uh outputs.

4605
02:47:26,400 --> 02:47:28,880
Um and the last is data and business

4606
02:47:28,880 --> 02:47:30,440
intelligence.

4607
02:47:30,440 --> 02:47:32,640
Again, all of these types of support are

4608
02:47:32,640 --> 02:47:34,800
in those verticals in that example org

4609
02:47:34,800 --> 02:47:37,160
chart that I showed. Um

4610
02:47:37,160 --> 02:47:39,560
But currently our data is very siloed.

4611
02:47:39,560 --> 02:47:42,000
We're working with Madden Media to

4612
02:47:42,000 --> 02:47:43,120
have [clears throat] our data be more

4613
02:47:43,120 --> 02:47:45,120
integrated with the data

4614
02:47:45,120 --> 02:47:47,080
that they make. Um

4615
02:47:47,080 --> 02:47:48,440
But we could have a better understanding

4616
02:47:48,440 --> 02:47:52,200
of who's coming to Moab from where

4617
02:47:52,200 --> 02:47:54,320
and other sorts of insights that

4618
02:47:54,320 --> 02:47:57,920
lead to business decisions about

4619
02:47:57,920 --> 02:48:00,720
uh who we want to attract and if our

4620
02:48:00,720 --> 02:48:02,200
efforts are working.

4621
02:48:02,200 --> 02:48:03,680
Um so again, I had mentioned

4622
02:48:03,680 --> 02:48:06,160
establishing performance indicators and

4623
02:48:06,160 --> 02:48:09,320
business objectives, understanding um

4624
02:48:09,320 --> 02:48:13,080
where people are coming from. Uh

4625
02:48:13,080 --> 02:48:14,560
Business intelligence can look into

4626
02:48:14,560 --> 02:48:16,640
things like what food we're leaving on

4627
02:48:16,640 --> 02:48:18,520
the table and different opportunities

4628
02:48:18,520 --> 02:48:20,240
that we can pursue

4629
02:48:20,240 --> 02:48:20,840
um

4630
02:48:20,840 --> 02:48:22,640
to attract additional visitors beyond

4631
02:48:22,640 --> 02:48:25,080
what is just happening. Um and then

4632
02:48:25,080 --> 02:48:26,040
consolidating [clears throat] all of

4633
02:48:26,040 --> 02:48:28,440
those sources like I said.

4634
02:48:28,440 --> 02:48:31,880
Um so those are just a few

4635
02:48:31,880 --> 02:48:34,200
areas that I will be looking at

4636
02:48:34,200 --> 02:48:36,520
budgeting for in 2027. And like I said,

4637
02:48:36,520 --> 02:48:38,640
I'll work with HR

4638
02:48:38,640 --> 02:48:41,320
the board and you all um,

4639
02:48:41,320 --> 02:48:48,590
come up with ways to support the office.

4640
02:48:48,600 --> 02:48:50,840
Oh, I have a thank you slide. Thank you.

4641
02:48:50,840 --> 02:48:51,656
>> Thank you.

4642
02:48:51,656 --> 02:48:53,520
>> [clears throat]

4643
02:48:53,520 --> 02:48:55,080
>> Thank you.

4644
02:48:55,080 --> 02:48:56,920
>> All right, well, we can move on to any

4645
02:48:56,920 --> 02:48:58,600
more questions for him?

4646
02:48:58,600 --> 02:48:59,520
>> I I'm good.

4647
02:48:59,520 --> 02:48:59,840
>> Good.

4648
02:48:59,840 --> 02:49:01,280
>> Well, then we will just move on to

4649
02:49:01,280 --> 02:49:03,120
>> Nick. Really appreciate it.

4650
02:49:03,120 --> 02:49:04,360
>> I'm also the next.

4651
02:49:04,360 --> 02:49:05,920
>> Yeah, you're the next one. And you might

4652
02:49:05,920 --> 02:49:06,960
as well just stay there, Jeff, cuz

4653
02:49:06,960 --> 02:49:07,800
you're the next one, huh?

4654
02:49:07,800 --> 02:49:08,720
>> Great. Okay, thanks.

4655
02:49:08,720 --> 02:49:09,960
>> No need to get up and down.

4656
02:49:09,960 --> 02:49:11,962
>> I don't know if you need to join me up.

4657
02:49:11,962 --> 02:49:12,480
>> [clears throat]

4658
02:49:12,480 --> 02:49:14,880
>> So, number 15 is the Moab Office of

4659
02:49:14,880 --> 02:49:16,360
Tourism and Special Events Marketing

4660
02:49:16,360 --> 02:49:19,000
Grant Round 2 funding. Cuz we actually

4661
02:49:19,000 --> 02:49:21,160
did this earlier.

4662
02:49:21,160 --> 02:49:25,110
Go ahead.

4663
02:49:25,120 --> 02:49:27,680
» Make sure I have the attachments.

4664
02:49:27,680 --> 02:49:30,280
Um, the Round 2 of our Special Events

4665
02:49:30,280 --> 02:49:31,560
Marketing Grant [clears throat] closed.

4666
02:49:31,560 --> 02:49:33,200
The Moab Office of Tourism and Special

4667
02:49:33,200 --> 02:49:34,680
Events approved,

4668
02:49:34,680 --> 02:49:37,000
um, or sent a recommendation to you all,

4669
02:49:37,000 --> 02:49:38,720
um, for

4670
02:49:38,720 --> 02:49:40,080
funding.

4671
02:49:40,080 --> 02:49:41,680
Um,

4672
02:49:41,680 --> 02:49:43,320
I'm happy to answer questions about any

4673
02:49:43,320 --> 02:49:45,720
of the recommendations that they made.

4674
02:49:45,720 --> 02:49:48,160
There's a recommended motion.

4675
02:49:48,160 --> 02:49:50,560
Um, this is for events,

4676
02:49:50,560 --> 02:49:53,400
uh, for the next year.

4677
02:49:53,400 --> 02:49:54,200
>> Well, go ahead.

4678
02:49:54,200 --> 02:49:55,760
>> I move to approve special event

4679
02:49:55,760 --> 02:49:58,000
marketing grant awards for events taking

4680
02:49:58,000 --> 02:50:00,320
place July 2026

4681
02:50:00,320 --> 02:50:03,240
through June of 2027 in the amount of

4682
02:50:03,240 --> 02:50:07,470
$89,451.

4683
02:50:07,480 --> 02:50:08,400
» Two.

4684
02:50:08,400 --> 02:50:10,680
>> Seconded by Mike. Okay.

4685
02:50:10,680 --> 02:50:12,840
Any other discussion?

4686
02:50:12,840 --> 02:50:14,400
Brian?

4687
02:50:14,400 --> 02:50:15,800
>> Yeah, I'm just really happy to see this

4688
02:50:15,800 --> 02:50:18,000
program and how it's moving along. Um, I

4689
02:50:18,000 --> 02:50:19,880
know that the goal is to bring in more

4690
02:50:19,880 --> 02:50:22,640
encouraged newer events in off-season

4691
02:50:22,640 --> 02:50:25,040
time. Um, but the other goal for it,

4692
02:50:25,040 --> 02:50:27,560
too, is to be able to attack the funnel

4693
02:50:27,560 --> 02:50:29,800
at a different location, as well. And it

4694
02:50:29,800 --> 02:50:32,560
does provide an opportunity to leverage

4695
02:50:32,560 --> 02:50:35,920
our our TRT to, uh,

4696
02:50:35,920 --> 02:50:36,840
um,

4697
02:50:36,840 --> 02:50:39,400
for other for, uh um sorry, it allows

4698
02:50:39,400 --> 02:50:42,280
people us to leverage our TRT with funds

4699
02:50:42,280 --> 02:50:44,320
from the community as well. So, not only

4700
02:50:44,320 --> 02:50:45,760
does it support

4701
02:50:45,760 --> 02:50:47,040
events that we have, but it also

4702
02:50:47,040 --> 02:50:49,360
supports tourism in general right here.

4703
02:50:49,360 --> 02:50:53,190
So.

4704
02:50:53,200 --> 02:50:56,680
» Okay. Any other questions, comments?

4705
02:50:56,680 --> 02:50:59,560
All in favor.

4706
02:50:59,560 --> 02:51:03,870
And that passes 5-0. Thank you.

4707
02:51:03,880 --> 02:51:05,160
All right. Have a good evening. Good

4708
02:51:05,160 --> 02:51:05,560
night.

4709
02:51:05,560 --> 02:51:06,720
>> Two.

4710
02:51:06,720 --> 02:51:09,840
>> 16 is our Grand County Sheriff's Office

4711
02:51:09,840 --> 02:51:12,000
position backfill request

4712
02:51:12,000 --> 02:51:14,400
with our personnel director

4713
02:51:14,400 --> 02:51:17,270
as presented.

4714
02:51:17,280 --> 02:51:18,280
All right.

4715
02:51:18,280 --> 02:51:19,920
Thank you everyone.

4716
02:51:19,920 --> 02:51:23,840
Um so, for this request, I am

4717
02:51:23,840 --> 02:51:24,720
uh

4718
02:51:24,720 --> 02:51:32,560
essentially addressing two birds with one item. Um so, we have a patrol deputy

4719
02:51:32,560 --> 02:51:35,440
position that will be coming open next

4720
02:51:35,440 --> 02:51:38,520
week. And we are requesting the backfill

4721
02:51:38,520 --> 02:51:41,400
of that position um to stave off

4722
02:51:41,400 --> 02:51:43,200
short-staffing and the necessity of

4723
02:51:43,200 --> 02:51:45,720
having our other officers um either

4724
02:51:45,720 --> 02:51:47,240
working overtime or them being

4725
02:51:47,240 --> 02:51:49,640
short-staffed while on shift.

4726
02:51:49,640 --> 02:51:52,760
With that, for the patrol deputy

4727
02:51:52,760 --> 02:51:55,880
position, part of our policy is that we

4728
02:51:55,880 --> 02:51:57,560
can have an internal roster, meaning

4729
02:51:57,560 --> 02:52:00,000
that if a comparable position comes open

4730
02:52:00,000 --> 02:52:01,760
within a certain period of time, we can

4731
02:52:01,760 --> 02:52:03,720
look to that roster of former former

4732
02:52:03,720 --> 02:52:07,320
candidates for similar position and and

4733
02:52:07,320 --> 02:52:09,400
look at offering that position. There is

4734
02:52:09,400 --> 02:52:11,920
an internal candidate, and that

4735
02:52:11,920 --> 02:52:14,720
candidate um works within a different uh

4736
02:52:14,720 --> 02:52:17,320
section of the Sheriff's Office, and so

4737
02:52:17,320 --> 02:52:19,920
we wanted to proactively also request

4738
02:52:19,920 --> 02:52:22,800
the backfill of a dispatcher position

4739
02:52:22,800 --> 02:52:23,960
because if they are moved into the

4740
02:52:23,960 --> 02:52:25,600
patrol deputy position, then I would

4741
02:52:25,600 --> 02:52:27,320
subsequently be coming back to you all

4742
02:52:27,320 --> 02:52:30,240
in a pri- approximately 2 weeks um to

4743
02:52:30,240 --> 02:52:32,160
request the backfill of that dispatcher

4744
02:52:32,160 --> 02:52:34,440
position, the needs of which are the

4745
02:52:34,440 --> 02:52:40,790
same as the patrol deputy position.

4746
02:52:40,800 --> 02:52:42,240
» Any questions?

4747
02:52:42,240 --> 02:52:44,160
Comments?

4748
02:52:44,160 --> 02:52:46,200
Motions?

4749
02:52:46,200 --> 02:52:47,240
Mary?

4750
02:52:47,240 --> 02:52:49,200
>> I move to approve the backfill of the

4751
02:52:49,200 --> 02:52:51,040
Grant County Sheriff Office patrol

4752
02:52:51,040 --> 02:52:54,000
deputy and dispatcher position effective

4753
02:52:54,000 --> 02:52:55,440
immediately.

4754
02:52:55,440 --> 02:52:56,240
>> Second that.

4755
02:52:56,240 --> 02:52:58,590
>> Okay.

4756
02:52:58,600 --> 02:53:00,360
All in favor?

4757
02:53:00,360 --> 02:53:01,120
>> Aye.

4758
02:53:01,120 --> 02:53:02,760
>> And we have one abstention. So this

4759
02:53:02,760 --> 02:53:05,360
passes four, one abstention and two

4760
02:53:05,360 --> 02:53:06,600
absent.

4761
02:53:06,600 --> 02:53:07,360
>> Fairly.

4762
02:53:07,360 --> 02:53:08,520
>> Thank you all. Thanks, Jess.

4763
02:53:08,520 --> 02:53:10,880
>> So I was like, I was stopped here.

4764
02:53:10,880 --> 02:53:11,840
>> I was wondering why you looked at me all

4765
02:53:11,840 --> 02:53:12,120
weird.

4766
02:53:12,120 --> 02:53:14,840
>> I was like, why did you do this to me?

4767
02:53:14,840 --> 02:53:15,920
>> Oh.

4768
02:53:15,920 --> 02:53:17,080
You're good.

4769
02:53:17,080 --> 02:53:17,280
Okay.

4770
02:53:17,280 --> 02:53:17,920
>> Thank you, Jess.

4771
02:53:17,920 --> 02:53:19,040
>> Thank you.

4772
02:53:19,040 --> 02:53:20,160
guys have any other meetings unless

4773
02:53:20,160 --> 02:53:23,600
anybody wants to see where we are at.

4774
02:53:23,600 --> 02:53:27,000
General Commissioner reports and future considerations. Does anyone have

4775
02:53:27,000 --> 02:53:29,040
anything in their commission reports

4776
02:53:29,040 --> 02:53:30,520
that they'd like to

4777
02:53:30,520 --> 02:53:32,480
talk about?

4778
02:53:32,480 --> 02:53:33,600
>> Um

4779
02:53:33,600 --> 02:53:34,200
>> Go ahead.

4780
02:53:34,200 --> 02:53:36,040
>> Grant County Fair is coming up.

4781
02:53:36,040 --> 02:53:37,239
Shameless plug.

4782
02:53:37,239 --> 02:53:37,640
>> [laughter]

4783
02:53:37,640 --> 02:53:39,680
>> Me and Andrew will be talking here.

4784
02:53:39,680 --> 02:53:41,320
Don't worry in a in a in a day or two

4785
02:53:41,320 --> 02:53:42,560
you'll see a

4786
02:53:42,560 --> 02:53:44,120
uh couple things coming out the paper,

4787
02:53:44,120 --> 02:53:47,160
but again, uh this is the largest local

4788
02:53:47,160 --> 02:53:50,560
event we have for our county.

4789
02:53:50,560 --> 02:53:53,480
Uh we we this is for locals. It's free.

4790
02:53:53,480 --> 02:53:55,400
Come out, have a good time. There's a

4791
02:53:55,400 --> 02:53:56,920
car show, volleyball tournament,

4792
02:53:56,920 --> 02:53:59,880
softball tournament. Uh

4793
02:53:59,880 --> 02:54:02,840
little rodeo. I I wish Andy was here to

4794
02:54:02,840 --> 02:54:07,160
present this or to show off, but we

4795
02:54:07,160 --> 02:54:09,200
tell your friends, family, etc. This is

4796
02:54:09,200 --> 02:54:12,400
a great time and uh I mean, over several

4797
02:54:12,400 --> 02:54:13,280
days.

4798
02:54:13,280 --> 02:54:14,880
A lot of activities. You'll see me out

4799
02:54:14,880 --> 02:54:17,200
there hurting myself in volleyball uh

4800
02:54:17,200 --> 02:54:19,840
this year and the car show. So

4801
02:54:19,840 --> 02:54:22,560
but love to see you all there.

4802
02:54:22,560 --> 02:54:24,120
Ford out.

4803
02:54:24,120 --> 02:54:26,240
>> All right. And then I I can just say

4804
02:54:26,240 --> 02:54:28,360
since I've we've been fast and furious

4805
02:54:28,360 --> 02:54:31,840
on the Arches um Shuttle Subcommittee,

4806
02:54:31,840 --> 02:54:34,200
we've had multiple meetings about this

4807
02:54:34,200 --> 02:54:35,760
and we're moving along with the

4808
02:54:35,760 --> 02:54:37,320
cooperative management agreement between

4809
02:54:37,320 --> 02:54:39,040
the National Park Service and Grand

4810
02:54:39,040 --> 02:54:41,800
County for the management of this pilot

4811
02:54:41,800 --> 02:54:43,920
transit visitor transit system and we

4812
02:54:43,920 --> 02:54:47,160
hope to have RFPs coming out very soon

4813
02:54:47,160 --> 02:54:49,760
and that those are

4814
02:54:49,760 --> 02:54:51,360
being approved by

4815
02:54:51,360 --> 02:54:55,320
our attorneys on both sides so we'll we'll look forward to that and

4816
02:54:55,320 --> 02:54:56,920
then hoping to have as far as our

4817
02:54:56,920 --> 02:55:00,920
timeline goes hoping to have the RFP

4818
02:55:00,920 --> 02:55:03,280
recommendation by our July 7th

4819
02:55:03,280 --> 02:55:04,800
commission meeting and approving that.

4820
02:55:04,800 --> 02:55:06,760
So if we can make that happen, we will

4821
02:55:06,760 --> 02:55:07,840
all

4822
02:55:07,840 --> 02:55:11,510
have a

4823
02:55:11,520 --> 02:55:13,525
Yeah, Merry Christmas as well.

4824
02:55:13,525 --> 02:55:13,680
>> [laughter]

4825
02:55:13,680 --> 02:55:15,840
>> We'll have that we'll have a selection

4826
02:55:15,840 --> 02:55:17,800
on by that July 7th and they will be

4827
02:55:17,800 --> 02:55:19,280
able to start going to work and get

4828
02:55:19,280 --> 02:55:21,320
procuring all of their

4829
02:55:21,320 --> 02:55:23,000
vans and buses and

4830
02:55:23,000 --> 02:55:24,320
get ready to rock and roll for the

4831
02:55:24,320 --> 02:55:26,960
shuttle in September.

4832
02:55:26,960 --> 02:55:27,560
>> Okay.

4833
02:55:27,560 --> 02:55:29,680
>> That's the only update I have. That's

4834
02:55:29,680 --> 02:55:32,000
been our busiest project right now.

4835
02:55:32,000 --> 02:55:33,520
>> Thanks for the update.

4836
02:55:33,520 --> 02:55:34,960
And I already mentioned the one that

4837
02:55:34,960 --> 02:55:36,760
I've got and I'll follow up with them

4838
02:55:36,760 --> 02:55:38,520
you act in our workshop.

4839
02:55:38,520 --> 02:55:40,200
>> Yeah, workshop next week. All right, I

4840
02:55:40,200 --> 02:55:40,440
think

4841
02:55:40,440 --> 02:55:41,120
>> If possible.

4842
02:55:41,120 --> 02:55:42,320
>> I think we had somebody online that

4843
02:55:42,320 --> 02:55:44,240
wanted to be on this is being recorded I

4844
02:55:44,240 --> 02:55:45,560
believe.

4845
02:55:45,560 --> 02:55:47,280
All right, they left so I don't know if

4846
02:55:47,280 --> 02:55:48,880
I have 5 minutes. What about you

4847
02:55:48,880 --> 02:55:52,480
Everett? You're good, okay.