1 00:00:42,000 --> 00:08:26,990 I think that's what it is. 2 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:35,390 » Sorry. 3 00:08:35,400 --> 00:08:36,000 » I need five. 4 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:38,440 >> All right. Where are we broadcasting? 5 00:08:38,440 --> 00:08:39,800 >> Uh we're doing the minutes. 6 00:08:39,800 --> 00:08:41,719 >> Are we on the agenda or 7 00:08:41,719 --> 00:08:45,510 >> Uh not for this meeting. 8 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:47,000 » All right. 9 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:51,920 It is 3:04 on June 24th. 10 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:54,120 And I call this meeting of the Economic 11 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:57,080 Opportunity Advisory Board to session. 12 00:08:57,080 --> 00:08:59,000 Um 13 00:08:59,000 --> 00:09:01,520 Yeah, Britney is away vacationing in 14 00:09:01,520 --> 00:09:04,880 Barcelona. So, poor us here doing the 15 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:06,000 work. 16 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,400 Um 17 00:09:08,400 --> 00:09:10,960 Yeah, welcome everyone. Let's go around 18 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,440 and do quick introductions. 19 00:09:13,440 --> 00:09:15,320 Deborah, want to start? 20 00:09:15,320 --> 00:09:17,640 >> I'm Deborah McKee with the Governor's 21 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,120 Office of Economic Development. 22 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,120 >> I am Amanda Folk. Um I work at Simplot 23 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:25,400 and I work at Simplot and I'm also on 24 00:09:25,400 --> 00:09:27,440 the Chamber Board. 25 00:09:27,440 --> 00:09:30,360 >> Pamela Gibson, Castle Valley. 26 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:32,400 >> Ashley Cornblath, Western Spirit. 27 00:09:32,400 --> 00:09:33,760 >> Remember the people? 28 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:35,160 >> Is that right? 29 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:35,760 >> Yeah. 30 00:09:35,760 --> 00:09:36,640 >> Voting number, right? 31 00:09:36,640 --> 00:09:38,200 >> Yeah, yeah. 32 00:09:38,200 --> 00:09:40,640 >> Aaron Lemberg voting member. 33 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,560 >> Jody McCommons, Grand County 34 00:09:42,560 --> 00:09:44,440 Commissioner Liaison. 35 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:47,720 >> Nancy Jeffers, Grand County staff. 36 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:50,590 >> Cora. 37 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:52,240 Phillips, 38 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,240 Director of Moab Chamber of Commerce, 39 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,160 just attending non-voting member. 40 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:58,960 >> Chris Wilson, 41 00:09:58,960 --> 00:10:00,880 voting member on the board. 42 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:04,160 Do we have anyone else online? Corey. 43 00:10:04,160 --> 00:10:05,120 would you like to introduce 44 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:10,070 yourself if you're available? 45 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,880 Okay, well, Corey Shercliff from the 46 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:15,840 City of Moab may is is potentially 47 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,800 joining us as well. 48 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,200 Okay, any conflicts of interest, 49 00:10:21,200 --> 00:10:22,680 disclosures, ex parte communications 50 00:10:22,680 --> 00:10:25,360 that needs to be disclosed? 51 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:28,600 Seeing none, we'll move on. 52 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:32,390 Any citizens to be heard? 53 00:10:32,400 --> 00:10:33,440 Cora, 54 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:34,640 I'm just kidding. You're the only 55 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:35,640 citizen, so. 56 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,510 >> Yes, [snorts] 57 00:10:38,520 --> 00:10:40,920 so I passed out before the meeting 58 00:10:40,920 --> 00:10:44,480 little cards. Maggie with the Moab Sun 59 00:10:44,480 --> 00:10:46,839 is working to connect 60 00:10:46,839 --> 00:10:49,720 residents and visitors to events that 61 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,440 are going on in our community. So, she 62 00:10:52,440 --> 00:10:54,440 has a little QR code. 63 00:10:54,440 --> 00:10:56,000 There's a newsletter that you can get 64 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,839 weekly on the events that are happening 65 00:10:58,839 --> 00:11:01,480 for the week in Moab. 66 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:03,360 So, I encourage you to share that. I'll 67 00:11:03,360 --> 00:11:05,680 be sharing it with 68 00:11:05,680 --> 00:11:07,520 the different lodging 69 00:11:07,520 --> 00:11:09,240 partners 70 00:11:09,240 --> 00:11:12,560 after this meeting. 71 00:11:12,560 --> 00:11:15,200 I encourage you to share it and then on 72 00:11:15,200 --> 00:11:17,280 July 9th 73 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,880 the Moab Chamber of Commerce is hosting 74 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:24,240 Dax Jacobson. He's with He's a Dean of 75 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:25,960 the Gore School of Business and 76 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,280 instructor with the David Eccles 77 00:11:29,280 --> 00:11:31,160 of the Goldman Sachs 10,000 Business 78 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:33,480 Program. So, he's going to be 79 00:11:33,480 --> 00:11:36,160 leading attendees on assessment of 80 00:11:36,160 --> 00:11:39,160 usability assessment and how to put eyes 81 00:11:39,160 --> 00:11:41,080 on the blind spots that you might have 82 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:42,320 in your business. 83 00:11:42,320 --> 00:11:44,560 >> He also has a really awesome podcast 84 00:11:44,560 --> 00:11:46,920 called the Rural Towns Project, and I 85 00:11:46,920 --> 00:11:49,120 was recently on an episode if you want 86 00:11:49,120 --> 00:11:50,028 to listen to it. 87 00:11:50,028 --> 00:11:50,560 >> [laughter] 88 00:11:50,560 --> 00:11:51,360 >> It was really good. 89 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:52,840 >> He's fantastic. I've seen him speak 90 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:55,200 twice at the San Juan County Business 91 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,040 Boot Camp. 92 00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,200 Really is committed to rural communities 93 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:01,040 and supporting them through their 94 00:12:01,040 --> 00:12:02,720 growth. So, I encourage everyone to 95 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:03,600 attend. 96 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,720 >> Thanks. Sounds great. 97 00:12:05,720 --> 00:12:06,840 Um okay. 98 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:08,920 >> It'll be 5:30 at the Grange Center, July 99 00:12:08,920 --> 00:12:09,760 9th. 100 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:13,110 >> Thank you. Important information. 101 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:15,200 Great. So, next up is presentations, but 102 00:12:15,200 --> 00:12:17,000 I think what we have for presentations 103 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:18,480 is nothing besides the ones that are 104 00:12:18,480 --> 00:12:20,440 specifically listed. Um so, we'll go 105 00:12:20,440 --> 00:12:23,040 through updates from folks. 106 00:12:23,040 --> 00:12:24,560 Um 107 00:12:24,560 --> 00:12:26,120 Commissioner McKendrick, do you have 108 00:12:26,120 --> 00:12:27,040 anything to share? 109 00:12:27,040 --> 00:12:27,880 >> Sure. 110 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:28,920 As since we haven't met for a while, a 111 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,560 lot has been happening at the county. Um 112 00:12:32,560 --> 00:12:34,160 I'll let Melissa update on a lot of the 113 00:12:34,160 --> 00:12:36,520 EOA stuff, but as far as 114 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:38,640 the other boards and and that I'm on, so 115 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,800 I just got done meeting with 116 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,080 Babcock Design for the public safety 117 00:12:43,080 --> 00:12:44,920 building. And so, that was the first 118 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,560 draft came before us today, and it was 119 00:12:47,560 --> 00:12:48,760 really exciting because I was nervous 120 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,960 that it wasn't going to fit within that 121 00:12:50,960 --> 00:12:52,480 um you know, the fixed gateway taxes 122 00:12:52,480 --> 00:12:54,920 that which is a point 0 3 tax that the 123 00:12:54,920 --> 00:12:57,320 commission can implement if we have a 124 00:12:57,320 --> 00:12:59,480 plan for it and if we decide to do it. 125 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,040 And we can it seems like it might fit 126 00:13:02,040 --> 00:13:03,560 within that, which was really exciting. 127 00:13:03,560 --> 00:13:05,640 We sent him back with some changes. Like 128 00:13:05,640 --> 00:13:07,160 to see the courthouse added into the 129 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:09,560 public safety building, but the the 130 00:13:09,560 --> 00:13:12,320 spot is this this footprint, um but 131 00:13:12,320 --> 00:13:14,400 keeping everyone here in this building 132 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:15,920 as we build the new jail on the other 133 00:13:15,920 --> 00:13:18,720 side of it. So, that was an update. So, 134 00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:21,520 we'll get it should be coming forth. 135 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:23,520 Hoping to plan a workshop with the 136 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,680 commission, the entire commission, and 137 00:13:25,680 --> 00:13:27,520 within the next month, month and a half, 138 00:13:27,520 --> 00:13:29,640 so the whole community can see what the 139 00:13:29,640 --> 00:13:31,440 plans are and the whole commission and 140 00:13:31,440 --> 00:13:33,000 then we can vote on that tax to see if 141 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:33,960 it's something that we want to 142 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,400 implement. The Canyon Lands Health Care 143 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,960 Special Service District is also a board 144 00:13:38,960 --> 00:13:42,840 that I'm on and we have um an RFP out 145 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,080 right now for the MAPS Master Plan, 146 00:13:46,080 --> 00:13:48,400 which is the 8 acres that's right behind 147 00:13:48,400 --> 00:13:50,600 the hospital and the Grand Center and 148 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:52,440 that's owned by the health district and 149 00:13:52,440 --> 00:13:54,360 it's deeded to be only used for senior 150 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:56,320 housing. talked about this before, but 151 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:58,640 we have currently six proposals. Um it 152 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:00,880 closes June 30th, so I have a special 153 00:14:00,880 --> 00:14:02,320 meeting in July to go over those 154 00:14:02,320 --> 00:14:04,240 proposals and to pick someone to to 155 00:14:04,240 --> 00:14:06,880 start working on that master plan and 156 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:08,600 that master plan will 157 00:14:08,600 --> 00:14:10,400 um include public engagement, so I'm 158 00:14:10,400 --> 00:14:11,960 sure I'll be letting you all know. 159 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:13,840 That's not due to be completed until the 160 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:15,040 end of the year. That's kind of the 161 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:16,720 timeline on that. So to have that master 162 00:14:16,720 --> 00:14:20,000 plan and then to go forward with what are we really going to do? 163 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:23,200 Um the same thing is the Care Center is 164 00:14:23,200 --> 00:14:26,240 uh 32 bed facility, but it was planned 165 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:29,680 to be a 64 bed facility, so within the 166 00:14:29,680 --> 00:14:31,880 next 2 years the Care Center plans to 167 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:34,680 hire an architect and get moving and um 168 00:14:34,680 --> 00:14:37,120 get a loan from CIB and move forward 169 00:14:37,120 --> 00:14:39,600 with the expansion on the Care Center. 170 00:14:39,600 --> 00:14:40,880 So we'll be breaking ground with that 171 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,640 within the next 2 years. 172 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,800 So that's really exciting news on that. 173 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:48,440 I'm sure that you all heard that SkyWest 174 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:51,200 um was selected as the So thank you all 175 00:14:51,200 --> 00:14:53,200 for that study and everything that went 176 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:56,839 into um getting SkyWest as our airline 177 00:14:56,839 --> 00:15:00,080 for um Grand County our regional airport 178 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:01,400 and I think that they will start like in 179 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:04,040 October is when they will start flying 180 00:15:04,040 --> 00:15:05,720 and that will be to Salt Lake and to 181 00:15:05,720 --> 00:15:10,240 Denver will be the flights out of um 182 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,480 Grand County. 183 00:15:12,480 --> 00:15:14,960 And I think that's I mean that's that's 184 00:15:14,960 --> 00:15:16,400 about the big stuff that's been 185 00:15:16,400 --> 00:15:18,839 happening. Do you have a question? 186 00:15:18,839 --> 00:15:20,839 >> Um when will those flights be available? 187 00:15:20,839 --> 00:15:23,240 I get calls before you do. 188 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:24,320 >> I don't know when those flights will be 189 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:24,880 available. 190 00:15:24,880 --> 00:15:26,160 >> October 1st. 191 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:26,840 >> But what about like booking 192 00:15:26,840 --> 00:15:28,360 >> That they won't When will they start the 193 00:15:28,360 --> 00:15:29,560 book them? When will they see them? 194 00:15:29,560 --> 00:15:31,080 >> I don't know. Good question. 195 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:33,400 >> I'll text Steve. 196 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:34,680 That's why I haven't seen I have a 197 00:15:34,680 --> 00:15:37,000 meeting with um SkyWest 198 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:37,840 tomorrow. 199 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,560 >> Tomorrow? That is tomorrow. 200 00:15:39,560 --> 00:15:40,800 >> So I yeah, so I have a meeting with 201 00:15:40,800 --> 00:15:42,600 SkyWest tomorrow. So Cody from SkyWest 202 00:15:42,600 --> 00:15:44,120 will be here tomorrow. 203 00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:46,480 And uh I'll find out more about I did I 204 00:15:46,480 --> 00:15:48,080 was looking on Yeah, you can't book 205 00:15:48,080 --> 00:15:50,840 after October 1st with our current with 206 00:15:50,840 --> 00:15:52,440 Contour. You can book all the way 207 00:15:52,440 --> 00:15:54,040 through September with them. But then 208 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:55,600 after that Yeah, I I was messing around 209 00:15:55,600 --> 00:15:57,080 with it the other day, so 210 00:15:57,080 --> 00:15:58,840 >> And then if somebody flies in from the 211 00:15:58,840 --> 00:16:01,080 hub in September and wants to fly out in 212 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:02,920 October, what does that look like if 213 00:16:02,920 --> 00:16:03,840 >> Yeah. 214 00:16:03,840 --> 00:16:05,240 >> It's two tickets, I guess, 215 00:16:05,240 --> 00:16:06,160 >> right? What was that? 216 00:16:06,160 --> 00:16:07,200 >> I mean, it'll have to be two tickets 217 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:07,880 then, right? 218 00:16:07,880 --> 00:16:09,960 >> Probably. 219 00:16:09,960 --> 00:16:11,120 But I mean, this happens all the time 220 00:16:11,120 --> 00:16:12,840 that you have companies that are moving 221 00:16:12,840 --> 00:16:14,720 in and out in the in small regional so 222 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:15,960 I'm sure there's some way around that, 223 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,520 but I'll I'll Yeah, I'll ask Cody 224 00:16:18,520 --> 00:16:20,600 tomorrow when I have a meeting with him. 225 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:22,400 >> Connecting to other carriers was one of 226 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:24,960 the problems before, so I would 227 00:16:24,960 --> 00:16:26,480 recommend getting two tickets. 228 00:16:26,480 --> 00:16:28,360 >> Yeah, ticket in and then ticket out, 229 00:16:28,360 --> 00:16:29,720 yeah. 230 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:31,160 But yeah, when are they going to Yeah, 231 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:32,400 the the he's when are they going to have 232 00:16:32,400 --> 00:16:34,400 their tickets up for sale? No, I don't 233 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:36,240 want them 234 00:16:36,240 --> 00:16:38,280 on any other airline cuz it would be um 235 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:40,640 either Delta or Southwest or United if 236 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:43,640 you were going to book in that way. 237 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:44,920 Um 238 00:16:44,920 --> 00:16:46,839 It should be better. 239 00:16:46,839 --> 00:16:50,080 >> Yeah, no, together for sure. 240 00:16:50,080 --> 00:16:51,120 >> Thanks for working on it. 241 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:52,480 >> Yeah. 242 00:16:52,480 --> 00:16:55,040 And uh right now there's also um 243 00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:56,440 paving projects going on out at the 244 00:16:56,440 --> 00:16:57,839 airport. I don't know if you've been out 245 00:16:57,839 --> 00:16:59,640 there. There's they're redoing all the 246 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:05,280 aprons and we have the grants money for that F- FAA grant, so there's lots 247 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:07,600 of construction going on on the runways 248 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,480 and the aprons. 249 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,800 So that that's that's amazing how how 250 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,720 they have to like the the regular the 251 00:17:15,720 --> 00:17:16,880 isn't enough, you know, when you think 252 00:17:16,880 --> 00:17:20,000 about the lining of planes and and the 253 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:22,120 specifications that that pavement has to 254 00:17:22,120 --> 00:17:24,319 have that pavement has to have for those 255 00:17:24,319 --> 00:17:25,000 landings. 256 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,000 >> Yeah. 257 00:17:27,000 --> 00:17:27,680 >> That's all. 258 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:28,960 >> Thank you. 259 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:30,200 Um 260 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:31,840 Alyssa. 261 00:17:31,840 --> 00:17:32,560 You're up next. 262 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:35,600 >> Most of my stuff is the RCG reporting 263 00:17:35,600 --> 00:17:38,840 stuff, so I'll just hold until we get to 264 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:40,000 the other spot. 265 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:40,760 >> Sounds good. 266 00:17:40,760 --> 00:17:43,040 >> The other thing that I did want to want 267 00:17:43,040 --> 00:17:45,920 to address just about that office space 268 00:17:45,920 --> 00:17:47,160 and some of the things that we've been 269 00:17:47,160 --> 00:17:50,080 working on with Sarah Barstow 270 00:17:50,080 --> 00:17:52,640 is the SBDC 271 00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:53,720 role. 272 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:55,080 So, 273 00:17:55,080 --> 00:17:57,240 uh in terms of the funding, so what 274 00:17:57,240 --> 00:17:59,840 happened with the SBDC stuff 275 00:17:59,840 --> 00:18:03,080 is that Grand County had uh 276 00:18:03,080 --> 00:18:05,760 prepaid for 4 years, I want to say, 277 00:18:05,760 --> 00:18:07,720 until 2026 278 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:09,760 of an SBDC role that was dedicated to 279 00:18:09,760 --> 00:18:11,920 Grand County instead of the regional 280 00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,240 representative to represent everyone. 281 00:18:15,240 --> 00:18:18,280 And at the end of 2026, that was 282 00:18:18,280 --> 00:18:20,200 supposed to expire. 283 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,640 In the meantime, during the audit of the 284 00:18:22,640 --> 00:18:24,640 TRT 285 00:18:24,640 --> 00:18:26,760 revenues that was happening with the 286 00:18:26,760 --> 00:18:28,400 state auditor, 287 00:18:28,400 --> 00:18:30,440 they basically flagged that and a couple 288 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:32,400 of other things and had said that that 289 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:35,280 was economic diversification funds 290 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:37,720 that were supposed to be spent down by 291 00:18:37,720 --> 00:18:41,720 the sunset date, which was June 30th. 292 00:18:41,720 --> 00:18:42,280 >> Yeah. 293 00:18:42,280 --> 00:18:44,320 >> And we wrote the check on June 30th to 294 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:46,240 make sure that we were able to prepay 295 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:46,920 those here. 296 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:47,240 >> Yeah. 297 00:18:47,240 --> 00:18:49,560 >> And so, it was specifically flagged in 298 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:51,400 the audit and they had Grand County 299 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:53,840 restate our financials 300 00:18:53,840 --> 00:18:55,400 to be able to incorporate that out to 301 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,880 2026. 302 00:18:57,880 --> 00:18:59,560 They still weren't able to spend down 303 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:03,280 the funds by the end of 2026, so SBDC 304 00:19:03,280 --> 00:19:06,000 from Carbon County asked for an 305 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:08,800 extension to that. The problem is is 306 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:10,560 that if the county gave an extension, we 307 00:19:10,560 --> 00:19:12,240 would have to reopen all of the 308 00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,160 financials and restate those again and 309 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:16,040 reopen that audit 310 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:18,400 because then you're not only just 311 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,640 prepaying for services to avoid 312 00:19:21,640 --> 00:19:24,600 the audit flags, you're then extending 313 00:19:24,600 --> 00:19:26,200 it and saying, "Yeah, we did prepay and 314 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:27,360 now we're going to have to ask for 315 00:19:27,360 --> 00:19:29,120 additional time." 316 00:19:29,120 --> 00:19:33,480 So, we had notified SBDC 317 00:19:33,480 --> 00:19:35,440 that we wouldn't be able to extend that 318 00:19:35,440 --> 00:19:37,040 contract, that we would have to take a 319 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:38,720 different approach. 320 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,040 And I guess in the meantime, 321 00:19:41,040 --> 00:19:43,360 they made decisions about reshuffling 322 00:19:43,360 --> 00:19:45,440 with Todd. 323 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,360 GOED has supported and put a lot of 324 00:19:48,360 --> 00:19:51,800 backing behind Sarah with the small 325 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:53,760 business the Sorry, with the women's 326 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:55,240 business center to make sure that we can 327 00:19:55,240 --> 00:19:56,560 service 328 00:19:56,560 --> 00:19:58,600 uh small businesses and give them all of 329 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,520 those consulting services, 330 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,200 but Sarah doesn't really have any office 331 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:04,360 space. So, the county has arranged for 332 00:20:04,360 --> 00:20:06,520 her to have office space so that she can 333 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:08,360 have office hours. 334 00:20:08,360 --> 00:20:10,360 So, we've worked that out with her and 335 00:20:10,360 --> 00:20:13,560 then I think that GOED is working with 336 00:20:13,560 --> 00:20:17,960 SBDC to try to find No, with USU 337 00:20:17,960 --> 00:20:20,280 to try to find regional services, I 338 00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,920 think maybe to serve Grand County. 339 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:24,960 So, I just wanted to make sure that 340 00:20:24,960 --> 00:20:26,760 everyone knew that in the interim 341 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,040 business services, Sarah will try to 342 00:20:29,040 --> 00:20:31,040 accommodate those with her schedule and 343 00:20:31,040 --> 00:20:32,600 we're going to try to get that messaging 344 00:20:32,600 --> 00:20:36,400 out and she's got office space available 345 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:38,400 at the Grand Center so that she can 346 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,640 serve those clients. 347 00:20:40,640 --> 00:20:42,600 >> And the idea is that she'll be servicing 348 00:20:42,600 --> 00:20:44,120 all of the 349 00:20:44,120 --> 00:20:46,440 small businesses in the 350 00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:47,360 >> Not just women. 351 00:20:47,360 --> 00:20:48,080 >> Right. 352 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,200 >> The The challenge right now is that and 353 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:51,800 I didn't realize this about Sarah 354 00:20:51,800 --> 00:20:55,720 either, but she is serving all of Utah 355 00:20:55,720 --> 00:20:59,600 or is it only Salt Lake and this region? 356 00:20:59,600 --> 00:21:00,440 >> I 357 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:02,280 >> to say that Grand County are not her 358 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:03,240 only clients. 359 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:05,920 >> No, it's like all Eastern Utah is what I 360 00:21:05,920 --> 00:21:07,720 was thinking. 361 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:10,520 A large region of the state. 362 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:11,320 >> Yeah. 363 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:11,920 >> So 364 00:21:11,920 --> 00:21:12,440 >> Okay. 365 00:21:12,440 --> 00:21:14,800 >> to be able to meet with clients here in 366 00:21:14,800 --> 00:21:16,480 person. She just felt like it would be 367 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,920 really helpful to have office space. So 368 00:21:19,920 --> 00:21:22,680 >> So does that mean that 369 00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,520 like what happens to that money? We just 370 00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:29,240 like it goes gets pushed over to TRT or 371 00:21:29,240 --> 00:21:30,920 >> Yeah. So it was 372 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:31,960 >> It's a revolving loan fund as well, I 373 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:34,240 got told it going to. No? 374 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,080 >> It's with the auditor. Oh, so Com Natman 375 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:38,840 is working that out with them. But 376 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:41,200 basically what they said was they were 377 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:43,640 TRT funds. 378 00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,320 >> Under right. Yeah. Yeah. They were TRT 379 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:47,960 funds spent under the diversification 380 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:50,560 program that existed at the time. 381 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,040 But maybe not spent, I guess. Yeah. So 382 00:21:53,040 --> 00:21:54,160 they're Okay. So it sits with the 383 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:55,440 auditor is the answer, I guess, 384 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,360 basically. 385 00:21:57,360 --> 00:21:59,480 >> And as soon as 386 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,280 they let us know, whatever is not going 387 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,680 to open an audit is probably the best 388 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:05,200 route. 389 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:06,320 >> Yeah. Yeah. 390 00:22:06,320 --> 00:22:08,560 >> But 391 00:22:08,560 --> 00:22:11,070 >> Okay. 392 00:22:11,080 --> 00:22:13,240 » And it's my understanding from SBDC, and 393 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:14,920 I don't know that this is the case, it's 394 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:16,960 still like really murky, 395 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,800 but it's my understanding from SBDC that 396 00:22:18,800 --> 00:22:21,520 they have funding to serve the region. 397 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,920 So it shouldn't just be Sarah 398 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:24,880 >> That's always been the case. 399 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:27,200 >> trying to do it on their own. 400 00:22:27,200 --> 00:22:29,200 >> Yeah. So Todd does is not with SBDC 401 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:32,750 anymore. Is that 402 00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,320 » I honestly, I have heard nothing from 403 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:36,880 SBDC. 404 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:38,960 So the only thing that we heard from 405 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,920 SBDC is that 406 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:45,440 they wanted the contract extension. 407 00:22:45,440 --> 00:22:48,720 As far as Todd goes, I don't know. Have 408 00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:49,800 you heard anything? 409 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:53,080 >> Yeah. Um I saw him 410 00:22:53,080 --> 00:22:55,880 soon after he was notified and 411 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:57,720 I believe his last day will be the 30th 412 00:22:57,720 --> 00:22:58,560 of this month. 413 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,720 >> So they are not keeping him as the 414 00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:02,360 regional. 415 00:23:02,360 --> 00:23:04,440 Do you how they're planning to serve the 416 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:06,440 region? He has been. I didn't realize 417 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:06,920 that. 418 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:07,440 >> Oh, really? 419 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,600 >> I thought he was Grand County dedicated, 420 00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,360 but he's been doing San Juan County, 421 00:23:12,360 --> 00:23:15,480 he's been doing Grand County, 422 00:23:15,480 --> 00:23:17,080 and then I'm not sure if he's been doing 423 00:23:17,080 --> 00:23:19,840 any other county. It may just be San 424 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:21,040 Juan again. 425 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:22,160 Do you know? 426 00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:23,600 >> Uh he was 427 00:23:23,600 --> 00:23:25,720 primarily Grand County and then I think 428 00:23:25,720 --> 00:23:27,280 he was also 429 00:23:27,280 --> 00:23:31,080 um covers San Juan County. 430 00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:32,960 >> Did he say what their plan was for 431 00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:34,800 covering the region if they weren't 432 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:36,480 going to have him? 433 00:23:36,480 --> 00:23:37,960 >> Um 434 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:40,520 No, I just know um Colette Cox, the 435 00:23:40,520 --> 00:23:41,720 director of the Center for World 436 00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,360 Development, has been in on a lot of 437 00:23:43,360 --> 00:23:46,160 conversations with USU and the SBDC 438 00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,360 about how to properly 439 00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:50,400 make sure everybody's covered because 440 00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,880 the Vernal, the Basin SBDC director just 441 00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:55,920 retired as well, so that position is 442 00:23:55,920 --> 00:23:57,160 open. 443 00:23:57,160 --> 00:23:59,520 Um and so and 444 00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:01,440 um they stated that they weren't filling 445 00:24:01,440 --> 00:24:03,240 refilling that position either in the 446 00:24:03,240 --> 00:24:05,560 Basin. So obviously it's a much wider 447 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:09,640 conversation than just Moab and um 448 00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:11,520 Colette, my boss, has been taking a 449 00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,520 really active role in those. I think 450 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:16,000 right now everybody has spoken their 451 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,600 good word and has they've collected all 452 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:20,120 the information and what the outcome is 453 00:24:20,120 --> 00:24:23,080 going to be is I'm unaware right now, so 454 00:24:23,080 --> 00:24:25,320 I'll definitely report back, but 455 00:24:25,320 --> 00:24:26,520 >> Yeah, I just think it's important for us 456 00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,360 to try to have a sense of how we're 457 00:24:28,360 --> 00:24:29,760 covered basically. So 458 00:24:29,760 --> 00:24:30,400 >> Yeah. Yeah. 459 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:31,520 >> it was always the that was like the 460 00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:32,960 challenge that we were trying to address 461 00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:33,320 back then. 462 00:24:33,320 --> 00:24:33,880 >> Absolutely. 463 00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,240 >> Which was probably not the right way to 464 00:24:35,240 --> 00:24:36,680 address it in some ways was putting our 465 00:24:36,680 --> 00:24:38,640 own money on the table to deal with the 466 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,000 problem, but 467 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,720 >> we've just like historically 468 00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:45,600 not been served by the SBDC and that's 469 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:47,240 like a real bummer for our local 470 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:48,760 businesses that need that type of 471 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:50,800 support, so we want to try to 472 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:51,960 >> I agree. Yeah. 473 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:53,640 >> we can to be the squeaky wheel and get 474 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:54,920 some services here. 475 00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:55,320 >> Yeah. 476 00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:58,040 >> Um but so the SBDC still is getting 477 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:00,560 state funding for that type of work. I 478 00:25:00,560 --> 00:25:01,960 know that there was the audit and all 479 00:25:01,960 --> 00:25:02,840 that stuff. Yeah. 480 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:04,400 >> Yeah, I mean, yeah, the funding has all 481 00:25:04,400 --> 00:25:05,920 stayed the same. Yeah. 482 00:25:05,920 --> 00:25:06,440 >> Okay. 483 00:25:06,440 --> 00:25:07,840 >> Yeah. Just the money from Grant County 484 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:08,400 that was given 485 00:25:08,400 --> 00:25:10,000 >> the additional, the supplemental. 486 00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:11,560 >> Yeah. 487 00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:12,720 So, we don't know what they're do what 488 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:14,160 they're doing. We just know that we 489 00:25:14,160 --> 00:25:15,480 couldn't continue to 490 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:16,640 >> Yeah. No, I get that. 491 00:25:16,640 --> 00:25:18,160 >> We couldn't extend the contract even 492 00:25:18,160 --> 00:25:19,960 more. So, this is always outside of the 493 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:20,560 funding 494 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:21,520 >> Yeah. 495 00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:22,760 No, I think it's just on us then to 496 00:25:22,760 --> 00:25:25,040 really make sure that we get the regular 497 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:26,920 services that we're still doing. 498 00:25:26,920 --> 00:25:28,880 >> And Sarah does do all of those. She's 499 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:31,120 not just, um, for women only, even 500 00:25:31,120 --> 00:25:32,480 though it's called women, but anytime 501 00:25:32,480 --> 00:25:33,960 she presents, she says, you know, I'm 502 00:25:33,960 --> 00:25:35,560 here for everybody, but I know it's also 503 00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:36,960 the stigma there could be like, I don't 504 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,240 want to go to a women's business, but it 505 00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,160 they there's no preferential treatment 506 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,000 between The only thing that you get as a 507 00:25:43,000 --> 00:25:45,480 woman business owner versus a man's is 508 00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:46,960 you get to be on that that website. 509 00:25:46,960 --> 00:25:48,000 Like, if you search for women 510 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:49,200 businesses, it'll pop up. Other than 511 00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:51,080 that, the services are the same that she 512 00:25:51,080 --> 00:25:54,040 gives to all all small businesses. 513 00:25:54,040 --> 00:25:54,560 >> That's great. 514 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,640 >> So, but it just it is hard because it does say women's 515 00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:00,440 business center. 516 00:26:00,440 --> 00:26:01,640 >> No, but that's awesome. I mean, I think 517 00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:03,680 that's awesome that we have someone I 518 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:04,840 mean, we're lucky that we have someone 519 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:06,120 locally that can help offer those 520 00:26:06,120 --> 00:26:07,560 services. I just hope that that doesn't 521 00:26:07,560 --> 00:26:09,240 mean that we then receive nothing from 522 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:11,400 the SBDC who are also doing that. 523 00:26:11,400 --> 00:26:13,400 >> Yeah, that won't be the case. Yeah. That 524 00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:14,440 won't be the case. 525 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,240 >> Cool. 526 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:17,920 >> And that's one thing in talking to 527 00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,760 Sarah, too, 528 00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:21,000 is 529 00:26:21,000 --> 00:26:22,760 she's going to look at her schedule and 530 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,880 set kind of office hours when she's 531 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:26,760 available to businesses, but we really 532 00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,640 want to push out the communication of 533 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,360 what services that she offers and when 534 00:26:30,360 --> 00:26:31,840 she's available. 535 00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:33,800 And she has been great. And then, one of 536 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,400 the things that we're doing with the 537 00:26:35,400 --> 00:26:37,560 office space is we're setting it up in 538 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:39,200 such a way that she can use that as 539 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:41,200 anchor and matching funds to get 540 00:26:41,200 --> 00:26:43,360 additional resources. 541 00:26:43,360 --> 00:26:45,080 So, that hopefully, you know, we can 542 00:26:45,080 --> 00:26:46,320 double down and give her the help and 543 00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:47,920 the support that she needs to be able to 544 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:50,840 expand her capacity in the meantime. 545 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:52,360 But, 546 00:26:52,360 --> 00:26:53,000 fingers crossed. 547 00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:54,640 >> Yeah, that's great. 548 00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:55,920 >> Awesome. 549 00:26:55,920 --> 00:26:57,440 Okay, 550 00:26:57,440 --> 00:26:58,960 should we then put everything else to 551 00:26:58,960 --> 00:27:01,960 the next conversation with RCG? 552 00:27:01,960 --> 00:27:03,520 Which would then have you up Deborah? 553 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,240 And one thing we'd love to hear any 554 00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:07,038 updates you have and we all received 555 00:27:07,038 --> 00:27:08,920 [clears throat] an email from James 556 00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,968 Dixon and we want to 557 00:27:10,968 --> 00:27:11,480 >> [cough] 558 00:27:11,480 --> 00:27:13,280 >> hear from you as to what that means for 559 00:27:13,280 --> 00:27:14,680 us in Grand County. 560 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:15,553 >> Okay, wonderful. 561 00:27:15,553 --> 00:27:15,840 >> [laughter] 562 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:16,880 >> I have it on my list. 563 00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:17,720 >> Thank you. 564 00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:19,120 >> Um how much time do I have Chris? 565 00:27:19,120 --> 00:27:21,200 >> Uh as little as possible to do as great 566 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:22,758 of a job as possible. 567 00:27:22,758 --> 00:27:24,120 >> [laughter] 568 00:27:24,120 --> 00:27:25,920 >> Okay, so 569 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,680 I have about five websites I'm going to 570 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:31,160 share with you and we can send the links 571 00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:32,560 out later. 572 00:27:32,560 --> 00:27:34,680 Just kind of some updates. We're no 573 00:27:34,680 --> 00:27:36,120 longer Go Utah 574 00:27:36,120 --> 00:27:38,880 we're back to Go Ed, Governor's Office 575 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:42,720 of Economic Development. Um but I still 576 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:45,400 have been saying Go Utah. So if you 577 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,280 just forgive me. When I was hired it was 578 00:27:47,280 --> 00:27:48,959 Go Utah. 579 00:27:48,959 --> 00:27:49,880 >> [laughter] 580 00:27:49,880 --> 00:27:53,000 >> So we have new branding coming out. 581 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,440 You'll see all the new logos throughout 582 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,720 state all the state agencies are getting 583 00:27:56,720 --> 00:27:58,480 rebranded so you'll see kind of the new 584 00:27:58,480 --> 00:28:01,200 logo and stuff. It's pretty cool. 585 00:28:01,200 --> 00:28:04,280 So with that said 586 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,880 Melissa attended an event a few weeks 587 00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,320 ago to represent Grand County at the 588 00:28:09,320 --> 00:28:12,480 unveiling of the Governor's 589 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:16,469 Economic Development Utah Elevated Plan. 590 00:28:16,469 --> 00:28:17,320 >> [clears throat] 591 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:18,840 >> So I'm going to show you on our it's 592 00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,950 located on our website. 593 00:28:22,960 --> 00:28:25,320 One second. 594 00:28:25,320 --> 00:28:26,720 I'm disabled to share. 595 00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:27,880 >> Oh yeah, we need to 596 00:28:27,880 --> 00:28:29,600 >> Hang tight. 597 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,200 >> Share settings. 598 00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:36,310 >> I can't even see. 599 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:41,990 I can't read that far. 600 00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,000 Window share from an application share 601 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:46,520 all no. 602 00:28:46,520 --> 00:29:01,230 >> I think it's the red box at the bottom. 603 00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:03,560 » Okay, so I'll I'll keep talking. So, 604 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,760 that's located on our website. If you 605 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:07,280 want to take a look at it and read over 606 00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:08,960 it, might give you give you some ideas 607 00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:10,520 or get your mind thinking economic 608 00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:13,520 development in the state of Utah. 609 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,040 Um it obviously shares the government 610 00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:17,560 priorities, things like that. It is 50 611 00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:19,350 pages, so 612 00:29:19,350 --> 00:29:20,040 >> [laughter] 613 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,600 >> you know, light read for everybody. Um 614 00:29:22,600 --> 00:29:24,760 but you can peruse the website and it 615 00:29:24,760 --> 00:29:26,800 explains a little bit more about the 616 00:29:26,800 --> 00:29:28,960 focus for economic development for at 617 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:30,920 the state level. 618 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:33,040 Okay. So, that's the first link we'll be 619 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:35,520 sending out. 620 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,600 Um something else I want to share is 621 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:42,240 housing has moved to Go-ED. And so, 622 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:49,800 originally housing used to live in the in the Department of Workforce 623 00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,840 Services, but under housing and 624 00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,800 community services, something like that. 625 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,760 So, anyways, it's moved to Go-ED. It's 626 00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:00,120 obviously fresh, so um we're still 627 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,480 working on everything, but I've included 628 00:30:02,480 --> 00:30:04,160 the new 629 00:30:04,160 --> 00:30:08,000 um website for all things housing in 630 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,200 there. 631 00:30:10,200 --> 00:30:15,430 So, 632 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:17,240 » Where do you sit? 633 00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:19,640 >> What's the arrow next to share? If you 634 00:30:19,640 --> 00:30:20,960 hit that one, does it give you that? 635 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,320 >> That's where we had that screen up just 636 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,280 a second ago. It wasn't 637 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:26,560 >> So, included in that housing, there's a 638 00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:29,600 new um housing dashboard throughout the 639 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:33,000 state that ex- that shows all different 640 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,880 types of data. I'm going to include that 641 00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:37,080 for you all as well to look 642 00:30:37,080 --> 00:30:38,800 at. 643 00:30:38,800 --> 00:30:42,200 Um opportunity zones. Melissa, would you 644 00:30:42,200 --> 00:30:45,160 like to talk about opportunity zones? 645 00:30:45,160 --> 00:30:46,560 >> No, I'll start and then you go. 646 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:48,400 >> Go ahead and if you need me to fill 647 00:30:48,400 --> 00:30:49,086 anything in, 648 00:30:49,086 --> 00:30:49,560 >> [laughter] 649 00:30:49,560 --> 00:30:50,600 >> I'm all about it. 650 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,040 >> So, if you're unfamiliar with 651 00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:55,680 opportunity zones, um they're redrawing 652 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:59,080 them this year, opportunity zones 2.0. 653 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:03,280 Um they are a sort of a federal tool for 654 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:06,560 investors investing in specific areas to 655 00:31:06,560 --> 00:31:10,360 get um incentives and perks. It's kind 656 00:31:10,360 --> 00:31:13,680 of the best way to put it, I think. Um 657 00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,840 it is to help development in a very 658 00:31:15,840 --> 00:31:21,200 specific area. So, this year Moab 659 00:31:21,200 --> 00:31:23,840 the Moab area was designated as a 660 00:31:23,840 --> 00:31:28,000 potential opportunity zone based off of 661 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,480 data criteria, a very specific formula 662 00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:34,880 created by HUD. And so, 147 663 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,720 different census tracts throughout the 664 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:40,000 state were identified as potential 665 00:31:40,000 --> 00:31:42,720 opportunity zones and the governor will 666 00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:46,120 be picking 37 of them. So, you can see 667 00:31:46,120 --> 00:31:48,240 that kind of, you know, gives you a 668 00:31:48,240 --> 00:31:52,680 little bit of a difficult shot. However, 669 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:53,920 the governor's office of economic 670 00:31:53,920 --> 00:31:55,840 development is compiling all the data to 671 00:31:55,840 --> 00:31:58,320 kind of present to the governor to help 672 00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:00,120 him make the best informed decision 673 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,520 possible and different communities were 674 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:05,880 able to submit surveys as to why they 675 00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:09,200 felt that their communities 676 00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:10,840 as to why they felt that their 677 00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:13,840 communities should be selected 678 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:15,640 and 679 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,520 I believe Moab and Grand County area 680 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,240 submitted some information, not that 681 00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:22,752 we're competitive. 682 00:32:22,752 --> 00:32:23,480 >> [laughter] 683 00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,000 >> And so, just know that, you know, you 684 00:32:26,000 --> 00:32:27,240 obviously have a great team that's 685 00:32:27,240 --> 00:32:30,000 fighting for the designation of the 686 00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:32,240 opportunity zone. 687 00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,240 And I will share that website real 688 00:32:35,240 --> 00:32:37,120 quick. 689 00:32:37,120 --> 00:32:39,000 Or that's how and scroll through it real 690 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:43,670 quick so you can kind of see. 691 00:32:43,680 --> 00:32:46,360 In working with the economist, too, it's 692 00:32:46,360 --> 00:32:49,080 interesting because things like of the 693 00:32:49,080 --> 00:32:52,000 four categories to compete, one of them 694 00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:53,600 was how closely you align with the 695 00:32:53,600 --> 00:32:54,760 Olympics. 696 00:32:54,760 --> 00:32:55,120 >> Mhm. 697 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:56,640 >> And how much you're part of the Olympic 698 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:57,800 strategy. 699 00:32:57,800 --> 00:32:59,640 >> Interesting. 700 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,560 >> So you can see the um designation right 701 00:33:02,560 --> 00:33:04,000 there. 702 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:05,320 And then there's more information about 703 00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,240 opportunity zones if you want to learn 704 00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:10,920 about that, the timeline, um everything 705 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,520 how they were selected as an opportunity 706 00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:14,600 zone, 707 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:16,640 everything like that. So, more 708 00:33:16,640 --> 00:33:20,440 interesting things to learn about. 709 00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,000 Um 710 00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:27,640 also we updated our grants page on our 711 00:33:27,640 --> 00:33:30,560 website. You can see here, since you all 712 00:33:30,560 --> 00:33:33,040 work so closely with our grants, this 713 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,040 might be something you're interested in. 714 00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,440 Um we have a new grants calendar on here 715 00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:40,320 that shows all of the deadlines for 716 00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:41,960 reporting, which you're obviously very 717 00:33:41,960 --> 00:33:44,800 involved in, um application periods, 718 00:33:44,800 --> 00:33:47,200 things like that. And then all of the 719 00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,400 information about our grants. So, for 720 00:33:50,400 --> 00:33:52,680 instance, um 721 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:57,190 the rural county grant, 722 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,360 there's all these additional 723 00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:01,600 downloads here. I also brought some of 724 00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:02,960 them 725 00:34:02,960 --> 00:34:04,800 because I had them in my office and 726 00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,480 thought, "Why not?" 727 00:34:07,480 --> 00:34:10,440 Um but then there's additional grants 728 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:12,120 that we've added on our website, so all 729 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:14,360 of the housing grants, 730 00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:15,800 um 731 00:34:15,800 --> 00:34:17,919 and then the tourism grants, and then 732 00:34:17,919 --> 00:34:21,280 some other funding opportunities. 733 00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,159 And then all of our partner agencies as 734 00:34:23,159 --> 00:34:24,520 well. So, a lot of this information 735 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,639 wasn't on here previously. Just want to 736 00:34:26,639 --> 00:34:30,669 let you know that's updated. 737 00:34:30,679 --> 00:34:36,270 And other than that, I will 738 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:38,639 answer your questions about the memo. 739 00:34:38,639 --> 00:34:40,000 Is that the best approach? 740 00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:41,560 >> Sure. I can start. 741 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:42,000 >> Yeah. 742 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:42,560 >> Uh 743 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:44,240 was [clears throat] uh 744 00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:46,280 was the 745 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,320 To what extent 746 00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:50,440 is Grant County 747 00:34:50,440 --> 00:34:52,760 the audience of that memo? The singular 748 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:54,360 audience or was it only written to us? 749 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:57,280 >> No. No. It was sent to every elected 750 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,200 official, CEO board, and economic 751 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,120 development director in the rural 752 00:35:02,120 --> 00:35:03,720 counties. 753 00:35:03,720 --> 00:35:04,160 >> And 754 00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:05,600 >> It was not directed at you. 755 00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:06,520 >> Okay. 756 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,480 And so, to what extent, as far as 757 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,920 you know, some of our activities, and 758 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:15,760 especially with respect to our 2026 759 00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,040 grant cycle for our CG, 760 00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:19,880 which is [clears throat] funding 761 00:35:19,880 --> 00:35:22,320 which has funded a contractor related to 762 00:35:22,320 --> 00:35:24,160 the airport project, 763 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,440 funding staff 764 00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:27,080 >> Right. 765 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:28,440 >> At least that's To what extent are we 766 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,560 impacted by it? What's your sense of 767 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,080 that? I mean, is it just as much I mean, 768 00:35:34,080 --> 00:35:36,920 I As I think about those things, those 769 00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:39,600 are all related to projects. Um but I 770 00:35:39,600 --> 00:35:41,840 don't know to what extent it's Yeah. 771 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,240 >> Absolutely. So, I think kind of some 772 00:35:44,240 --> 00:35:46,280 backstory of where this memo came from 773 00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,600 is there have been um specific 774 00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:52,760 incidences with our counties where 775 00:35:52,760 --> 00:35:54,640 um contractors were being paid for 776 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,440 specific projects, and we weren't seeing 777 00:35:57,440 --> 00:36:01,720 the details or the ROI or the result of 778 00:36:01,720 --> 00:36:04,880 that contractor being hired. And so, you 779 00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:07,120 know, it really comes back to us like, 780 00:36:07,120 --> 00:36:08,960 "Oh, well, where is that funding going?" 781 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,320 And if we're not able to really say, um 782 00:36:12,320 --> 00:36:15,560 so, we saw a need for strict reporting, 783 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:17,160 essentially. And that's really all it 784 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:19,760 is, right? Like, you're absolutely still 785 00:36:19,760 --> 00:36:22,320 able to pay for staffing, pay for 786 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:24,120 contractors. We just want to know 787 00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:26,240 exactly what they're doing, what the 788 00:36:26,240 --> 00:36:28,880 outcome is, what the ROI is, what the 789 00:36:28,880 --> 00:36:31,520 actual funds are going towards. 790 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,480 Um, you know, because some contractors 791 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,080 will get three or four counties, you 792 00:36:36,080 --> 00:36:37,880 know, to give them a certain percentage 793 00:36:37,880 --> 00:36:40,360 of their grant funds. And obviously 794 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:41,920 that's a lot of money and we weren't 795 00:36:41,920 --> 00:36:43,880 really seeing the outcome from those 796 00:36:43,880 --> 00:36:46,000 funds. So, that's really where it came 797 00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:47,280 from. 798 00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:48,040 Um, 799 00:36:48,040 --> 00:36:49,440 I don't think that it really affects 800 00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:51,640 anything that we have going on. All, you 801 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:53,360 know, for instance, the airport 802 00:36:53,360 --> 00:36:54,120 contractor. 803 00:36:54,120 --> 00:36:55,080 >> Yeah. 804 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:56,800 >> Melissa has all the information that's 805 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:59,400 very detailed as to their scope of work, 806 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:00,560 what they're doing, what the funding 807 00:37:00,560 --> 00:37:03,240 went. So, it's very easy for her to just 808 00:37:03,240 --> 00:37:05,640 be like, here. This is what Yeah, 809 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,520 exactly. Um, we just want to make sure 810 00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:10,440 that it's not sketchy [clears throat] 811 00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:12,520 business going on. And so, it's really 812 00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:15,320 kind of to cover everybody's 813 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:15,800 um, 814 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,360 >> And is there like a form? 815 00:37:18,360 --> 00:37:20,760 I mean, it feels like that you 816 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,440 there's a lot of interpretation when you go to write one of those grant 817 00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,480 reports and they ask these questions. 818 00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:28,440 >> Yeah. They're a little up in the air. 819 00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,000 Yeah. Yeah, and um, 820 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:34,160 when the reporting that Melissa has, 821 00:37:34,160 --> 00:37:36,280 that's definitely 822 00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:36,640 >> Right. 823 00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,040 >> a guideline. But, within the memo it 824 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:40,760 shows ex- 825 00:37:40,760 --> 00:37:42,960 specifically what you need as scope of 826 00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:45,240 work, you know? And that obviously looks 827 00:37:45,240 --> 00:37:47,600 different for everybody. And if 828 00:37:47,600 --> 00:37:49,720 compliance feels that Melissa or you 829 00:37:49,720 --> 00:37:51,400 guys didn't provide enough information, 830 00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:53,520 we would ask for that in addition. But, 831 00:37:53,520 --> 00:37:55,280 I think it is left open for 832 00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:58,200 interpretation a little bit so that 833 00:37:58,200 --> 00:38:00,160 you know, everybody's different in how 834 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,800 they provide that information and how 835 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:04,280 you obtain it. Um, 836 00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:05,400 >> Yeah, but it's just 837 00:38:05,400 --> 00:38:07,240 >> not to pigeonhole, I feel like. 838 00:38:07,240 --> 00:38:09,400 >> I I get the tension between us you think 839 00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:11,480 there's kind of like if you say, 840 00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,560 well, applicable scope of work, you 841 00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:13,800 know, 842 00:38:13,800 --> 00:38:14,280 >> Yeah. 843 00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:16,000 >> is there. But, anyway, so we should keep 844 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:18,840 a hold of that memo for the next years 845 00:38:18,840 --> 00:38:21,240 because we're going to be needing to 846 00:38:21,240 --> 00:38:23,080 >> Yeah, and there's actual like 847 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,680 administrative ruling 848 00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:27,640 documents like this. You know, like our 849 00:38:27,640 --> 00:38:30,080 state statute. We have administrative 850 00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,320 ruling that I'm happy to share that kind 851 00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:35,600 of shows on our end what we're required 852 00:38:35,600 --> 00:38:37,600 to provide in our help. 853 00:38:37,600 --> 00:38:38,440 >> Yeah, I don't know. 854 00:38:38,440 --> 00:38:41,360 >> But you know, we really try to be 855 00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,800 It's because some counties and you know, 856 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:45,680 their recorders doing it or like for the 857 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:47,920 RCOG for cities that apply for that, 858 00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:50,560 it's like a treasurer. Like we try to 859 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:53,480 really be accommodating to rural 860 00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:55,400 who might not have the resources or 861 00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,680 bandwidth or know-how. 862 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,640 >> Sure, but I mean I don't know. Just 863 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:01,160 having a form that says these are the 864 00:39:01,160 --> 00:39:02,480 things you should be addressing would 865 00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,360 save some time cuz you're kind of like 866 00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:05,680 you write some stuff and you're like, am 867 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:07,760 I good? I'm not sure, you know? And then 868 00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:09,440 you wait for the message like, no, you 869 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,120 need more information. And then it's a 870 00:39:11,120 --> 00:39:12,440 takes management time on your 871 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,160 >> Well, that's great feedback that I will 872 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,480 send to James Dick. You know, this is a 873 00:39:16,480 --> 00:39:19,040 new obviously a brand new thing 874 00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:19,600 um that we're 875 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:21,400 >> have to be required. It could say 876 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:23,760 suggested, you know? And then you would 877 00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:24,960 at least be in the ballpark. 878 00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:26,640 >> Yeah. Cuz I know So you think that would 879 00:39:26,640 --> 00:39:28,600 be helpful in the application or in the 880 00:39:28,600 --> 00:39:29,240 report? 881 00:39:29,240 --> 00:39:31,200 >> Both because because if you're going to 882 00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:33,080 do the application, you should be aware 883 00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,560 of the reporting requirements from the 884 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:36,880 beginning. 885 00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:38,960 Because then you know 886 00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:40,680 exactly what you need to be tracking and 887 00:39:40,680 --> 00:39:42,480 you aren't going backwards. 888 00:39:42,480 --> 00:39:43,080 Okay. 889 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:44,840 >> And maybe James is already planning on 890 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:45,000 that. 891 00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:46,720 >> Maybe so. I mean I get it that you want 892 00:39:46,720 --> 00:39:48,920 to be flexible, but but I think that 893 00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:51,680 you're actually supporting the grantee 894 00:39:51,680 --> 00:39:53,800 by making it a little straightforward 895 00:39:53,800 --> 00:39:55,040 and just saying, here's the kind of 896 00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:56,240 stuff you should be tracking while 897 00:39:56,240 --> 00:39:58,120 you're doing this project. And that way 898 00:39:58,120 --> 00:39:59,160 if you're like, oh, we're not going to 899 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:00,680 have any of that data, you kind of are 900 00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:02,360 like, maybe this grant isn't right for 901 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:03,440 us, you know? 902 00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:05,640 >> Yeah, I agree with that. Yeah. 903 00:40:05,640 --> 00:40:07,160 Good idea, Ashley. 904 00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:08,000 >> I 905 00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:09,560 I'm just trying to make it faster for 906 00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,000 everyone. Um what when is the governor 907 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:13,200 make the decisions about the 908 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:13,960 opportunities? 909 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:15,040 >> September. 910 00:40:15,040 --> 00:40:17,320 >> And does it retroactively apply or it's 911 00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,280 only for new investments? Like if you 912 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:19,920 >> New. 913 00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,160 >> Okay, interesting. All right, September. 914 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:22,800 Okay, thanks. 915 00:40:22,800 --> 00:40:23,600 >> September. 916 00:40:23,600 --> 00:40:24,840 >> But usually those things are by tax 917 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:25,520 year, right? 918 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:25,920 >> Right. 919 00:40:25,920 --> 00:40:27,320 >> The incentives are how it works. 920 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,280 >> Yeah, but there was a 1.0 I don't know 921 00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,800 the exact dates between the 1.0 922 00:40:31,800 --> 00:40:31,960 >> So 923 00:40:31,960 --> 00:40:32,520 >> and the 2.0. 924 00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:33,880 >> So that's going to be for the following 925 00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:34,560 year. 926 00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:35,400 >> Yes. 927 00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:36,920 >> Cuz that's what they I was just looking 928 00:40:36,920 --> 00:40:38,720 at the maps like cuz we were in 929 00:40:38,720 --> 00:40:40,600 opportunity zones or our opportunity 930 00:40:40,600 --> 00:40:42,480 zones. But that's the last round and 931 00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,360 this is a 2.0 new program exactly. So it 932 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:46,440 looks but it's they're calling it the 933 00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:47,480 2027 program. 934 00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:49,320 >> So that would mean that any investments 935 00:40:49,320 --> 00:40:51,280 done in 2026 would not 936 00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:52,960 >> Probably don't fall under that. 937 00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:55,240 But most likely. I mean, I don't know. 938 00:40:55,240 --> 00:40:58,520 >> It's super super competitive under the 939 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:01,520 new IRS ruling 940 00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:05,040 because they've cut back the fraction of 941 00:41:05,040 --> 00:41:07,720 the opportunity zones in every state. So 942 00:41:07,720 --> 00:41:09,600 the state of Utah I think only retains 943 00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,200 20% of its capability to provide 944 00:41:12,200 --> 00:41:14,040 opportunity zones, which is what made it 945 00:41:14,040 --> 00:41:17,240 a competitive process now instead of the 946 00:41:17,240 --> 00:41:20,280 tract grant. So just the whole way that 947 00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,120 they are doing it is completely 948 00:41:22,120 --> 00:41:22,960 different. 949 00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,600 >> The governor should have appointed an 950 00:41:24,600 --> 00:41:28,040 anonymous committee, just saying. 951 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:32,150 >> To decide on his behalf? 952 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:33,280 » Okay. 953 00:41:33,280 --> 00:41:33,960 Um 954 00:41:33,960 --> 00:41:36,000 anything else from your side, Deborah? 955 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,160 >> Nothing else from my side. I'm sending 956 00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,760 out all those links for all that extra 957 00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,120 reading material. And I do have the 958 00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:45,560 state statute if you want to look at it, 959 00:41:45,560 --> 00:41:47,560 rural county grant, and then the actual 960 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:51,080 state statute for this board. 961 00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:53,480 Great for your taking. 962 00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:54,080 >> Thank you. 963 00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:54,440 >> Yep. 964 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:55,960 >> Super helpful. 965 00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,160 Um 966 00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:01,080 Okay, so now let's move on to this So 967 00:42:01,080 --> 00:42:04,000 2026 RCG reporting, 968 00:42:04,000 --> 00:42:08,160 um which is officially due at the end of 969 00:42:08,160 --> 00:42:10,240 July, I think. But the sooner we get it 970 00:42:10,240 --> 00:42:13,120 in, the sooner we can be moving on. 971 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:16,760 Current year funding. Um 972 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,680 So, Melissa gave us a bunch of documents 973 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,520 and I'll pass it over to Melissa to talk 974 00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,000 a little bit about where we're at and 975 00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:24,760 what you need from us. I mean, this is 976 00:42:24,760 --> 00:42:28,440 one of our sort of like statutory 977 00:42:28,440 --> 00:42:30,640 uh responsibilities as a board is to be 978 00:42:30,640 --> 00:42:34,000 participate in the reporting. 979 00:42:34,000 --> 00:42:36,200 >> Okay. So, reporting. 980 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:39,520 Could you share the link that I sent you 981 00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:41,120 to the 982 00:42:41,120 --> 00:42:44,080 documents file? 983 00:42:44,080 --> 00:42:46,120 Basically, so when you talk about the 984 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:47,800 reporting requirements, making sure that 985 00:42:47,800 --> 00:42:48,760 we're following the reporting 986 00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:50,680 requirements, whatever, there's just not 987 00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,640 a lot of guidance. 988 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,920 So, we completely created a whole new 989 00:42:55,920 --> 00:42:56,800 system 990 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,760 >> You want this separate as a spreadsheet? 991 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:01,360 >> Yeah. Yeah, if that's okay. 992 00:43:01,360 --> 00:43:02,560 >> It is. 993 00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:05,280 >> So, we just created our own process and 994 00:43:05,280 --> 00:43:07,240 our own set of documentation. This was 995 00:43:07,240 --> 00:43:09,840 the first year using it. I would be 996 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,640 really curious and would love to follow 997 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,360 up with grantees to see what their 998 00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:15,120 experience was, if they felt like it was 999 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:17,520 too time-consuming, if they felt like it 1000 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,200 was too difficult because this was the 1001 00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:22,440 first year that we've really used it. 1002 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:24,200 But essentially, I wanted to create 1003 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:25,760 something that it doesn't matter who's 1004 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,560 responsible for doing that reporting. 1005 00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:28,960 They've got a system now that they can 1006 00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,240 follow, make their own edit change, but 1007 00:43:31,240 --> 00:43:33,800 at least there's a place to start. 1008 00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,880 And it started with making sure that we 1009 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:38,160 have everyone's scope documents, 1010 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:40,720 original budget requirements, 1011 00:43:40,720 --> 00:43:42,200 any terms that they had in their 1012 00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,440 contracts, links to their contracts so 1013 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,920 that we can reference those at any time. 1014 00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:49,560 And then a status. And if you go, 1015 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:54,760 Deborah, to the submission documents, 1016 00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,080 we also created This was the very first 1017 00:43:57,080 --> 00:43:58,720 year that we did this as a reimbursement 1018 00:43:58,720 --> 00:44:02,320 program and not as just a grant program, 1019 00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:05,720 which was really uh hit or miss success 1020 00:44:05,720 --> 00:44:07,000 lesson, get that to you really 1021 00:44:07,000 --> 00:44:08,120 >> Well, they're on. 1022 00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:10,440 You sent them to us individually, too. 1023 00:44:10,440 --> 00:44:11,040 So, 1024 00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,040 >> And they're also on the agenda as 1025 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:14,720 individual items. 1026 00:44:14,720 --> 00:44:18,840 >> Perfect. Okay. Yeah, reimbursement request form and the 1027 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:20,360 advanced funds request form, right? 1028 00:44:20,360 --> 00:44:23,840 >> So, basically, we had everyone do 1029 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:25,360 requests. They did all of the 1030 00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,400 documentation, and then they received 1031 00:44:27,400 --> 00:44:30,040 payments. The first one was like maybe 3 1032 00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,880 weeks into the process that we paid out 1033 00:44:32,880 --> 00:44:34,480 and processed. 1034 00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:37,120 The last one, which is the only grant 1035 00:44:37,120 --> 00:44:39,560 that hasn't been completely paid out and 1036 00:44:39,560 --> 00:44:41,120 won't be, 1037 00:44:41,120 --> 00:44:42,560 is going to be listed in the reporting 1038 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,200 spreadsheet as encumbered funds, and 1039 00:44:44,200 --> 00:44:46,160 that will be the golf course. 1040 00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:47,520 So, if you want to go to the final 1041 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,640 reporting document for the final 1042 00:44:49,640 --> 00:44:52,200 reporting document, 1043 00:44:52,200 --> 00:44:52,880 the 1044 00:44:52,880 --> 00:44:53,400 >> Yes. 1045 00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,320 >> That will give the status of all of 1046 00:44:56,320 --> 00:45:03,750 them. 1047 00:45:03,760 --> 00:45:07,230 This one? 1048 00:45:07,240 --> 00:45:08,080 Am I right? This one? 1049 00:45:08,080 --> 00:45:08,840 >> Yes. 1050 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:09,560 >> Okay. 1051 00:45:09,560 --> 00:45:12,360 And I'll look at my own. 1052 00:45:12,360 --> 00:45:13,640 Cuz I'm not going to be able to see it 1053 00:45:13,640 --> 00:45:17,310 up there. 1054 00:45:17,320 --> 00:45:21,040 So, on the final reporting, you can see 1055 00:45:21,040 --> 00:45:23,200 what has been paid out, what has been 1056 00:45:23,200 --> 00:45:25,680 encumbered, 1057 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,080 and then 1058 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,560 what we're proposing that we would use 1059 00:45:29,560 --> 00:45:32,560 for the rest of the funds 1060 00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:35,040 that haven't been encumbered. 1061 00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:37,000 And there's nothing remaining that 1062 00:45:37,000 --> 00:45:41,760 hasn't been left unused. So, Artesian, 1063 00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,800 multi-no, wait. Multi- Artesian Moab 1064 00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,480 Brewery, Moab Area Chamber of Commerce, 1065 00:45:47,480 --> 00:45:50,800 Rock Tots, and Jaspers will all be paid 1066 00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:53,080 out during the reporting period. 1067 00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:56,280 We will go over on the Moab Golf Club 1068 00:45:56,280 --> 00:45:57,920 because we want to retain that final 1069 00:45:57,920 --> 00:46:00,760 payment until their study has been 1070 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,400 received. So, we've already paid out the 1071 00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:05,440 retainer for that and then another 1072 00:46:05,440 --> 00:46:07,960 payment for travel and other services. 1073 00:46:07,960 --> 00:46:09,440 So, now we're just waiting to get their 1074 00:46:09,440 --> 00:46:11,240 final 1075 00:46:11,240 --> 00:46:14,800 invoice when the work is completed. 1076 00:46:14,800 --> 00:46:16,200 And then 1077 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:20,720 we received for multi-mini mount $12,600 1078 00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:23,960 as a payment request. So, that has gone 1079 00:46:23,960 --> 00:46:25,200 out. 1080 00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:28,520 And then that leaves $17,386 1081 00:46:28,520 --> 00:46:29,840 remaining. 1082 00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:31,760 And then we've just detailed what we're 1083 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,840 proposing that we would use those funds 1084 00:46:34,840 --> 00:46:37,710 for. 1085 00:46:37,720 --> 00:46:39,240 So, I don't know like if we just want to 1086 00:46:39,240 --> 00:46:41,800 go through questions or talk about it or 1087 00:46:41,800 --> 00:46:44,320 you want specific the the specific 1088 00:46:44,320 --> 00:46:47,080 reporting is in the packet. 1089 00:46:47,080 --> 00:46:50,080 To the extent that we have it. The one 1090 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:51,440 thing that I can speak to with 1091 00:46:51,440 --> 00:46:53,800 confidence is we haven't yet received 1092 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,480 every last narrative for final report. 1093 00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,440 We've received four-ish, I think. 1094 00:46:59,440 --> 00:47:00,960 But the one thing that we are confident 1095 00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:02,760 about is that we've received all of the 1096 00:47:02,760 --> 00:47:04,840 receipts, all of the invoices, all of 1097 00:47:04,840 --> 00:47:07,000 the financial documentation 1098 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:10,120 that aligns with original budgets and 1099 00:47:10,120 --> 00:47:14,910 aligns with the contracts. 1100 00:47:14,920 --> 00:47:16,240 » I mean, first of all, thank you for 1101 00:47:16,240 --> 00:47:19,160 this. Like, this is the first like true 1102 00:47:19,160 --> 00:47:22,200 full accounting that I've seen for the 1103 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:24,240 money that we've spent in this way. I 1104 00:47:24,240 --> 00:47:26,280 mean, not that other previous years 1105 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:27,800 haven't been accounted for in some way, 1106 00:47:27,800 --> 00:47:30,000 but like in detail what's happened to 1107 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,400 with the dollar. That's awesome and 1108 00:47:32,400 --> 00:47:34,120 really important for us. So, thank you 1109 00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:37,510 for that. 1110 00:47:37,520 --> 00:47:38,880 Um 1111 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:39,880 >> And it makes it a lot easier. I mean, 1112 00:47:39,880 --> 00:47:41,760 currently, you know, we're still chasing 1113 00:47:41,760 --> 00:47:43,200 down some of the reporting from the 1114 00:47:43,200 --> 00:47:44,800 sub-grants, you know, and it's I mean, 1115 00:47:44,800 --> 00:47:47,600 it was on our and it's not fun. It's so 1116 00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:49,080 This is really nice and it's nice for 1117 00:47:49,080 --> 00:47:51,280 all of us to 1118 00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:52,960 know where the money's going and that 1119 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,680 it's effective. Even though I mean, 1120 00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:57,520 we may or may not do sub-grants again. I 1121 00:47:57,520 --> 00:48:01,800 mean, I last year it let's do this and it might be this year we're not, 1122 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:03,080 next year 1123 00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:04,400 something else. I mean, we've got some 1124 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:05,680 big plans in the county that we can roll 1125 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,480 a bunch of stuff into, but I think it's 1126 00:48:07,480 --> 00:48:09,680 a it's awesome to have it. And I I have 1127 00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:11,600 it saved and Kam out of it has it and 1128 00:48:11,600 --> 00:48:13,840 it's not going to go away with like us 1129 00:48:13,840 --> 00:48:15,880 going away, so it's it's a process 1130 00:48:15,880 --> 00:48:19,320 that's been completed and it's 1131 00:48:19,320 --> 00:48:19,880 um 1132 00:48:19,880 --> 00:48:22,360 we can we can tweak it, change it, keep 1133 00:48:22,360 --> 00:48:25,240 it the same or whatever in the future. 1134 00:48:25,240 --> 00:48:26,640 You know what I mean? 1135 00:48:26,640 --> 00:48:30,630 A lot of work that we won't have to. 1136 00:48:30,640 --> 00:48:32,000 » I mean, the other thing that comes up 1137 00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,320 for me is the 1138 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:36,960 I mean, I and I guess this is is maybe 1139 00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,480 what will happen if you when you have a 1140 00:48:39,480 --> 00:48:41,320 reimbursement style program is that 1141 00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:43,000 you're likely to come up with a slightly 1142 00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:45,080 different number at the end than what 1143 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,040 was you know, projected at the 1144 00:48:47,040 --> 00:48:49,680 beginning. And that's what that 17,000 1145 00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:54,200 386 is related to, right? Um 1146 00:48:54,200 --> 00:48:55,960 So 1147 00:48:55,960 --> 00:48:58,560 Yeah, so obviously that wasn't a part of 1148 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,120 an original request or an action by the 1149 00:49:01,120 --> 00:49:02,640 commission 1150 00:49:02,640 --> 00:49:05,680 or an application to the the state. So, 1151 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,760 what do we need to do 1152 00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,240 at at I guess multiple levels in order 1153 00:49:11,240 --> 00:49:14,160 to have that be 1154 00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,040 kosher, to have that be squared away. 1155 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,560 Like, I mean, it it makes sense that if 1156 00:49:18,560 --> 00:49:20,760 you have remaining funds, I mean, to me 1157 00:49:20,760 --> 00:49:23,040 it seems reasonable to use those 1158 00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,800 internally if there's a need. Um 1159 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:27,880 but like, what's the process? What needs 1160 00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:29,920 to happen there? 1161 00:49:29,920 --> 00:49:30,320 >> I don't know. 1162 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:32,840 >> I think as long as it's still associated 1163 00:49:32,840 --> 00:49:34,520 with the grant 1164 00:49:34,520 --> 00:49:36,920 proc- or the or the sub grant program, 1165 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:40,000 sub grant project, there's no need for 1166 00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:41,960 it to go back to the commission. It's 1167 00:49:41,960 --> 00:49:45,360 still basically the same project. 1168 00:49:45,360 --> 00:49:46,360 >> But just the overall 1169 00:49:46,360 --> 00:49:48,240 >> the sub grant Yeah, yeah. 1170 00:49:48,240 --> 00:49:48,920 >> Okay. 1171 00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,120 >> So, I think if it was something like 1172 00:49:50,120 --> 00:49:52,480 super drastically different, then that 1173 00:49:52,480 --> 00:49:54,760 could be a conversation, but I don't see 1174 00:49:54,760 --> 00:49:56,760 it being an issue. I wouldn't advise 1175 00:49:56,760 --> 00:49:58,400 that it go back to the commission. 1176 00:49:58,400 --> 00:49:58,960 >> Okay. 1177 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:00,680 >> Why would it? I don't think unless it's 1178 00:50:00,680 --> 00:50:01,400 a new 1179 00:50:01,400 --> 00:50:03,080 >> If it was like if you we did what we 1180 00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:03,920 said we were going to do. 1181 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:05,480 >> Right. But if you know 1182 00:50:05,480 --> 00:50:06,520 >> And now we're going to do something 1183 00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:07,680 else, too. 1184 00:50:07,680 --> 00:50:08,440 >> Yeah. 1185 00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,480 >> Oh, yeah, what are we doing now? 1186 00:50:10,480 --> 00:50:12,040 >> Well, that's what Yeah. 1187 00:50:12,040 --> 00:50:13,120 >> I can't really see it. 1188 00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:14,120 >> Uh it says 1189 00:50:14,120 --> 00:50:14,920 >> Let me zoom in. 1190 00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:16,120 >> Software conference and tools for 1191 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:17,560 economic development capacity building 1192 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,360 of new I mean, it's basically the 1193 00:50:19,360 --> 00:50:21,800 proposal is to use it within the 1194 00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,920 economic development office. 1195 00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,400 Cuz it it's remaining funds being used 1196 00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,360 by the office for economic development 1197 00:50:28,360 --> 00:50:29,240 activities. 1198 00:50:29,240 --> 00:50:31,000 >> asked us to do that, so it's sort of 1199 00:50:31,000 --> 00:50:32,120 circular. 1200 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,080 >> I think so, too. I think if it was like 1201 00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:36,560 something completely different, like you 1202 00:50:36,560 --> 00:50:38,520 were going to give it 1203 00:50:38,520 --> 00:50:40,080 I don't 1204 00:50:40,080 --> 00:50:41,360 You were going to do something at the 1205 00:50:41,360 --> 00:50:43,320 Spanish Trail Arena, maybe. Then you 1206 00:50:43,320 --> 00:50:45,200 >> Well, check Well, last year we wanted to 1207 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:46,720 keep some of that money, but right as we 1208 00:50:46,720 --> 00:50:48,600 had to have advertised it and had so 1209 00:50:48,600 --> 00:50:50,040 many applicants. Remember, I was like 1210 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:50,480 >> Yeah. 1211 00:50:50,480 --> 00:50:52,040 >> we should just subgrant it all out. So, 1212 00:50:52,040 --> 00:50:54,000 I think it's it's cuz it's you know 1213 00:50:54,000 --> 00:50:58,950 >> It's still the same project, yeah. 1214 00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:00,440 » Yeah. 1215 00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:02,960 Um 1216 00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:05,240 And so 1217 00:51:05,240 --> 00:51:10,750 what do you I mean 1218 00:51:10,760 --> 00:51:12,920 Are we ready 1219 00:51:12,920 --> 00:51:14,600 to I think I think we're supposed to 1220 00:51:14,600 --> 00:51:16,080 take a vote. Like we're supposed to take 1221 00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,160 some action as the EOB 1222 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,880 to approve the reporting? 1223 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,960 Do we feel ready to take that 1224 00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:25,800 action? 1225 00:51:25,800 --> 00:51:28,680 >> That's That's up to this board, whatever 1226 00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,320 you felt comfortable with. 1227 00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:30,800 >> Yeah. 1228 00:51:30,800 --> 00:51:32,160 >> I wanted to make sure that you were 1229 00:51:32,160 --> 00:51:33,480 equipped with all of the detailed 1230 00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,280 information, so that you felt like you 1231 00:51:35,280 --> 00:51:36,520 could when you were ready make a 1232 00:51:36,520 --> 00:51:38,720 decision. 1233 00:51:38,720 --> 00:51:40,400 >> Well, so just to clarify, all of the 1234 00:51:40,400 --> 00:51:42,960 grantees have gotten their money. 1235 00:51:42,960 --> 00:51:45,320 It's and and all have done their 1236 00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:47,360 reporting except 1237 00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,080 the golf course. 1238 00:51:49,080 --> 00:51:51,320 >> All have done the financial reporting. 1239 00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,480 Most have done the narrative, which I'm 1240 00:51:53,480 --> 00:51:56,440 less edgy about because they submitted 1241 00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:57,720 all of their receipts and they've been 1242 00:51:57,720 --> 00:52:01,000 paid out. The golf course, we put in the 1243 00:52:01,000 --> 00:52:03,920 report that probably they'll be paid out 1244 00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:06,560 in August when they receive their final 1245 00:52:06,560 --> 00:52:09,160 report. But we already know how much it 1246 00:52:09,160 --> 00:52:11,280 is and we know how much we're paying. I 1247 00:52:11,280 --> 00:52:13,240 just feel edgy about paying them before 1248 00:52:13,240 --> 00:52:14,720 it's done. 1249 00:52:14,720 --> 00:52:15,000 >> plan. 1250 00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:17,520 >> Okay. Okay. If you guys are comfortable 1251 00:52:17,520 --> 00:52:19,800 with holding those funds, 1252 00:52:19,800 --> 00:52:21,880 that's my recommended option. If you're 1253 00:52:21,880 --> 00:52:24,960 not, we can just pay it out. 1254 00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:26,600 Like I don't expect at the last minute 1255 00:52:26,600 --> 00:52:28,560 they're not going to finish the report 1256 00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:30,160 and just bail. 1257 00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:32,640 But it kind of feels nice to say we're 1258 00:52:32,640 --> 00:52:33,960 going to keep them encumbered and we'll 1259 00:52:33,960 --> 00:52:35,680 keep it in the bank account until August 1260 00:52:35,680 --> 00:52:37,800 when they deliver that report. But 1261 00:52:37,800 --> 00:52:40,600 they've flown out. We had great meetings 1262 00:52:40,600 --> 00:52:43,240 with them. They met with the city. 1263 00:52:43,240 --> 00:52:45,240 They've produced some decent work 1264 00:52:45,240 --> 00:52:48,120 products so far. The only thing that the 1265 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:49,920 golf course hasn't received are like the 1266 00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,520 final architectural plans and the final 1267 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:54,600 business plan. So I thought it would be 1268 00:52:54,600 --> 00:52:56,080 nice for us to be able to hold those 1269 00:52:56,080 --> 00:52:57,760 funds for just a minute until we get 1270 00:52:57,760 --> 00:52:58,520 that in. 1271 00:52:58,520 --> 00:53:00,080 >> That totally makes sense. Yeah. But so 1272 00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:02,320 do you want a motion like I think for 1273 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,520 the purposes of this board, we're done 1274 00:53:04,520 --> 00:53:07,080 with this and we need to move on. So if 1275 00:53:07,080 --> 00:53:09,680 we do a motion now that says 1276 00:53:09,680 --> 00:53:11,960 we approve uh 1277 00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:13,160 what do you want what is the motion you 1278 00:53:13,160 --> 00:53:13,440 want 1279 00:53:13,440 --> 00:53:17,200 >> the reporting completed by Melissa. 1280 00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:19,240 >> You've participated in the last two 1281 00:53:19,240 --> 00:53:20,080 years. 1282 00:53:20,080 --> 00:53:21,920 >> document and 1283 00:53:21,920 --> 00:53:26,160 >> and any changes necessary to it to to 1284 00:53:26,160 --> 00:53:28,200 um to include future narrative 1285 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:31,120 reporting. You know, we should just give her 1286 00:53:31,120 --> 00:53:34,560 in advance our blessing on additional 1287 00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:37,160 narrative reporting that would go in. 1288 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:38,160 Right? And then it'll be complete. 1289 00:53:38,160 --> 00:53:39,720 >> Well, like we can be explicit in the 1290 00:53:39,720 --> 00:53:42,440 motion. We approve it as is with the 1291 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,960 addition of the outstanding narratives 1292 00:53:45,960 --> 00:53:47,560 from um 1293 00:53:47,560 --> 00:53:47,840 >> You want to 1294 00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:49,080 >> remaining grantees 1295 00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,760 >> Make a motion. You've got it. 1296 00:53:50,760 --> 00:53:51,960 >> Um 1297 00:53:51,960 --> 00:53:56,950 we uh approve the 1298 00:53:56,960 --> 00:54:03,150 distribution of funds and documentation 1299 00:54:03,160 --> 00:54:04,080 report 1300 00:54:04,080 --> 00:54:04,880 >> reporting 1301 00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:06,880 >> and reporting 1302 00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:09,080 um 1303 00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:13,110 uh 1304 00:54:13,120 --> 00:54:15,200 Let's see. 1305 00:54:15,200 --> 00:54:19,120 How do you say that? Like um 1306 00:54:19,120 --> 00:54:21,800 acknowledging that 1307 00:54:21,800 --> 00:54:22,840 uh 1308 00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,240 several narratives are still due and a 1309 00:54:25,240 --> 00:54:27,720 final payment will be made to the golf 1310 00:54:27,720 --> 00:54:30,470 course. 1311 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:34,790 How does that sound? 1312 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,120 So, then we're not just saying do 1313 00:54:36,120 --> 00:54:38,080 whatever you want. 1314 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:39,400 We're saying 1315 00:54:39,400 --> 00:54:41,320 finish this like you started it. Great 1316 00:54:41,320 --> 00:54:44,240 job. The end. Move on. 1317 00:54:44,240 --> 00:54:44,760 Put that. 1318 00:54:44,760 --> 00:54:46,840 >> And when uh they come and present to the 1319 00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:48,320 city, I'll make sure you all know. So, 1320 00:54:48,320 --> 00:54:49,800 that if you'd like to 1321 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,000 come to the city and watch or 1322 00:54:52,000 --> 00:54:53,280 >> Yeah. Yeah, they're going to come and 1323 00:54:53,280 --> 00:54:55,240 present to the city council. 1324 00:54:55,240 --> 00:54:57,680 So, the master plan that they have come 1325 00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,240 up with. So, I I met with them. Didn't 1326 00:54:59,240 --> 00:55:01,000 have done my reporting, but I met with 1327 00:55:01,000 --> 00:55:03,920 them like three times and the mayor. 1328 00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:06,800 And so, kind of got an idea of 1329 00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:07,960 they had a good idea of like what would 1330 00:55:07,960 --> 00:55:08,680 the city allow. 1331 00:55:08,680 --> 00:55:10,720 >> they going to need to do the plan? 1332 00:55:10,720 --> 00:55:12,080 >> Oh, man. That's going to be a lot of 1333 00:55:12,080 --> 00:55:14,160 money. So, just the sprinkler system 1334 00:55:14,160 --> 00:55:16,000 itself, you know, he's like on the low 1335 00:55:16,000 --> 00:55:18,120 end $3 million. And that's the number 1336 00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:19,240 one thing that needs to be done out 1337 00:55:19,240 --> 00:55:21,760 there is the sprinkler systems. And so, 1338 00:55:21,760 --> 00:55:23,360 but they have so much land. I mean, 1339 00:55:23,360 --> 00:55:25,160 there's so much land that's the owned by 1340 00:55:25,160 --> 00:55:26,840 the city that they could do a lot with 1341 00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:27,960 it. And but it then it's like is the 1342 00:55:27,960 --> 00:55:29,680 city even willing to do that? And that 1343 00:55:29,680 --> 00:55:31,120 was my thing. I'm like that's the city 1344 00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:32,360 has to ask that. But it seemed like they 1345 00:55:32,360 --> 00:55:33,920 were willing. You know, housing out 1346 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:35,920 there. So, they could lease lease the 1347 00:55:35,920 --> 00:55:37,960 land and put some housing out there. and 1348 00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,160 that land lease would pay for for all of 1349 00:55:40,160 --> 00:55:41,280 the things that it could happen out 1350 00:55:41,280 --> 00:55:43,000 there. And then public-private 1351 00:55:43,000 --> 00:55:44,600 partnerships where because the 1352 00:55:44,600 --> 00:55:46,800 clubhouse, you know, is a big 1353 00:55:46,800 --> 00:55:48,240 draw for people to get married. I mean, 1354 00:55:48,240 --> 00:55:49,880 it's beautiful out there. So, if they 1355 00:55:49,880 --> 00:55:51,760 could do a convention center out there 1356 00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:53,680 and the clubhouse where you you still 1357 00:55:53,680 --> 00:55:55,880 have golf happening, but then you have a 1358 00:55:55,880 --> 00:55:59,080 convention center. But that would be So, it's basically a plan, but there 1359 00:55:59,080 --> 00:56:00,400 wouldn't be it wouldn't be the city 1360 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:01,760 doing it all. It wouldn't be the golf 1361 00:56:01,760 --> 00:56:03,480 club doing it all. It would be multiple 1362 00:56:03,480 --> 00:56:05,400 different entities doing it, but they're 1363 00:56:05,400 --> 00:56:06,840 going to come back with a plan. But I 1364 00:56:06,840 --> 00:56:08,160 was kind of like, why do why are we even 1365 00:56:08,160 --> 00:56:10,120 are we going to even do this plan if the 1366 00:56:10,120 --> 00:56:11,880 city's not willing to be like, "Yeah, 1367 00:56:11,880 --> 00:56:15,480 we're willing to put some land for lease so that we could 1368 00:56:15,480 --> 00:56:17,240 help pay for this?" And it sounded like 1369 00:56:17,240 --> 00:56:18,320 they would I mean, but I I you know, 1370 00:56:18,320 --> 00:56:19,600 until they see the whole plan and they 1371 00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,160 start making that. But But without a 1372 00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,400 plan, you can't go anywhere. So, but it 1373 00:56:23,400 --> 00:56:24,880 sounded really exciting. I mean, and of 1374 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,480 course, we need a way better. I just got 1375 00:56:26,480 --> 00:56:27,320 through golfing the other day and 1376 00:56:27,320 --> 00:56:28,560 there's so much wasted water. And 1377 00:56:28,560 --> 00:56:30,640 they're they're going out in there and 1378 00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:31,840 they're hitting the ground. I mean, 1379 00:56:31,840 --> 00:56:33,680 they're just the the new sprinkler 1380 00:56:33,680 --> 00:56:35,920 systems, I mean, they seem ridiculous, 1381 00:56:35,920 --> 00:56:37,720 but they will only water exactly what 1382 00:56:37,720 --> 00:56:39,480 they're supposed to, exactly the amount 1383 00:56:39,480 --> 00:56:41,920 of water. Um they had some ideas of 1384 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:44,160 reconfiguring the golf course so that 1385 00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:49,080 you squish those back the like whole um 1386 00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:52,920 uh 10, 11, and 12 or 10 1387 00:56:52,920 --> 00:56:53,600 >> I know what you mean. 1388 00:56:53,600 --> 00:56:55,080 >> Yeah, the the side that's the closest to 1389 00:56:55,080 --> 00:56:57,080 the four-way stop where the and and 1390 00:56:57,080 --> 00:56:59,080 bring them in closer and that leaves a 1391 00:56:59,080 --> 00:57:01,720 bigger area of land to lease out for to 1392 00:57:01,720 --> 00:57:02,840 build on. 1393 00:57:02,840 --> 00:57:04,400 >> And if they build out there, that all 1394 00:57:04,400 --> 00:57:05,760 that money would go right back into 1395 00:57:05,760 --> 00:57:07,800 could go back into the city or the golf 1396 00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:08,280 course, you 1397 00:57:08,280 --> 00:57:11,160 >> Yeah. The um I feel like San Juan County 1398 00:57:11,160 --> 00:57:13,240 has a golf uh been to meetings that 1399 00:57:13,240 --> 00:57:15,480 their golf club and it's very nice and 1400 00:57:15,480 --> 00:57:17,560 they use it for events and it is a model 1401 00:57:17,560 --> 00:57:19,240 that we could look at, but we'll see 1402 00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:20,600 what this report says. But it's not 1403 00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,440 really our problem. It's the port we pay 1404 00:57:22,440 --> 00:57:23,840 for that. Okay, but we should get this 1405 00:57:23,840 --> 00:57:24,240 motion on the 1406 00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:25,600 >> So, Ashley, this is what I've got for 1407 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:26,480 you. 1408 00:57:26,480 --> 00:57:27,800 Uh I move to approve the reporting and 1409 00:57:27,800 --> 00:57:29,880 disbursement of RCG funds acknowledging 1410 00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:31,640 that that narratives will be added to 1411 00:57:31,640 --> 00:57:33,480 the reporting before being submitted and 1412 00:57:33,480 --> 00:57:35,720 final and a final payment will be made 1413 00:57:35,720 --> 00:57:37,080 to the golf course when the master plan 1414 00:57:37,080 --> 00:57:38,720 is complete. Does that sound 1415 00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:39,280 >> that sounds 1416 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:40,360 >> Does that work for you? 1417 00:57:40,360 --> 00:57:42,240 Does anyone have a second? 1418 00:57:42,240 --> 00:57:43,880 I'll second that motion. 1419 00:57:43,880 --> 00:57:44,800 >> Second. 1420 00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:45,880 >> Thank you. 1421 00:57:45,880 --> 00:57:47,840 All right, so we have a motion and it's 1422 00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,960 been seconded. Any discussion of the 1423 00:57:49,960 --> 00:57:51,400 motion? This is just discussion of the 1424 00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:53,720 motion to approve the reporting. 1425 00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:55,600 >> Do we have to include this $17,000 in 1426 00:57:55,600 --> 00:57:56,640 there? 1427 00:57:56,640 --> 00:57:58,560 I'm just talking about the $17,000. 1428 00:57:58,560 --> 00:58:00,000 >> Say that one more time. 1429 00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:02,280 >> Like the leftover $17,000 that's just 1430 00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,160 hanging out. Do we need to include that? 1431 00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,160 >> Well, we spent it. We we gave it to the 1432 00:58:07,160 --> 00:58:09,400 economic development office, so it's 1433 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,640 kind of taken care of. But you it was 1434 00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,720 hanging out, but now it's committed. 1435 00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:17,000 >> I think it's up to us as a board, 1436 00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:19,600 um, whether we'd want to take action on 1437 00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:21,760 that, make a recommendation on that, 1438 00:58:21,760 --> 00:58:22,840 make a recommendation that it's used 1439 00:58:22,840 --> 00:58:24,280 differently, 1440 00:58:24,280 --> 00:58:25,440 whatever. 1441 00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:27,880 Um, or it sounds like 1442 00:58:27,880 --> 00:58:30,000 from the perspective of the state and 1443 00:58:30,000 --> 00:58:31,200 the commission or at least our 1444 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,280 commission liaison, we could also choose 1445 00:58:33,280 --> 00:58:35,920 to just do nothing on it and let it just 1446 00:58:35,920 --> 00:58:38,760 happen the way it's happening right now. 1447 00:58:38,760 --> 00:58:41,400 >> Well, in the motion, my intention was to 1448 00:58:41,400 --> 00:58:43,040 accept the report as it is now, which 1449 00:58:43,040 --> 00:58:45,640 has the $17,000 in there giving to the 1450 00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:47,360 economic development authority. So, we'd 1451 00:58:47,360 --> 00:58:49,400 have to start over on the motion if 1452 00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:51,000 we're going to treat that $17,000 1453 00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:54,120 differently, but I mean, we 1454 00:58:54,120 --> 00:58:56,440 I don't know why we would 1455 00:58:56,440 --> 00:58:57,440 um, 1456 00:58:57,440 --> 00:59:00,670 I mean, the commission 1457 00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,480 I I got the feeling they wanted us to 1458 00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:04,120 use it for that and we didn't have 1459 00:59:04,120 --> 00:59:05,800 something better to use it for, so it 1460 00:59:05,800 --> 00:59:07,640 makes sense to just 1461 00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,560 do it. Unless people want to 1462 00:59:10,560 --> 00:59:12,000 I mean, it's not that much money. 1463 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:13,280 >> Yeah, what do you what do you think? 1464 00:59:13,280 --> 00:59:15,000 >> Yeah. Oh, I was just asking. 1465 00:59:15,000 --> 00:59:16,480 >> Yeah. 1466 00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,720 >> Cuz I don't know, but it just I mean, it 1467 00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:20,960 just kind of seems like 1468 00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,120 when we were having the conversation 1469 00:59:23,120 --> 00:59:25,840 earlier about 1470 00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:26,920 you know, even thinking of the small 1471 00:59:26,920 --> 00:59:29,200 business department and there was this 1472 00:59:29,200 --> 00:59:31,560 leftover money that wasn't spent and 1473 00:59:31,560 --> 00:59:33,240 things like that. So, just kind of 1474 00:59:33,240 --> 00:59:35,680 months in the future coming back and 1475 00:59:35,680 --> 00:59:38,240 saying, "Well, hey, there was this 17. 1476 00:59:38,240 --> 00:59:41,360 What happened to it? Do we need to say 1477 00:59:41,360 --> 00:59:44,400 explicitly this is what happened to it?" 1478 00:59:44,400 --> 00:59:46,480 Cuz right now we're not doing that. 1479 00:59:46,480 --> 00:59:47,080 >> I think we are. 1480 00:59:47,080 --> 00:59:48,240 >> happened to it. 1481 00:59:48,240 --> 00:59:48,520 >> we are. 1482 00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,160 >> Unless we say something else, I think. 1483 00:59:50,160 --> 00:59:50,360 >> Yeah. 1484 00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:51,920 >> I think I mean 1485 00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:53,000 You don't have to make a note of that. I 1486 00:59:53,000 --> 00:59:53,360 don't know. 1487 00:59:53,360 --> 00:59:55,040 >> I I mean, I can't really read it but I 1488 00:59:55,040 --> 00:59:56,480 can't from here but I'm pretty sure that 1489 00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:59,080 that's what that's what it says is we 1490 00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:01,440 are giving it to the transfer 1491 01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:03,360 transitioning post audit from the 1492 01:00:03,360 --> 01:00:04,800 Dismantling Economic Development 1493 01:00:04,800 --> 01:00:06,880 Department of Function. So, all of that 1494 01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:09,400 is building That's what the commission 1495 01:00:09,400 --> 01:00:12,240 wants to do with this money in to they 1496 01:00:12,240 --> 01:00:13,640 want to use it to fund the economic 1497 01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:15,520 development department. Which is 1498 01:00:15,520 --> 01:00:18,240 staffing this committee. So, we might as 1499 01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:20,640 well support that cuz we less work for 1500 01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:21,240 us. 1501 01:00:21,240 --> 01:00:23,320 >> Yeah, or else I mean, basically all the 1502 01:00:23,320 --> 01:00:24,520 reporting that you just did on that of 1503 01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:26,120 the hours report what that money's going 1504 01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,000 into. Or else we would have been doing 1505 01:00:28,000 --> 01:00:29,600 that Well, you guys would all been doing 1506 01:00:29,600 --> 01:00:30,440 that as a board. 1507 01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:33,200 >> Yeah, and we did a lot of that before 1508 01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:34,960 and I think we're done with it. Like we 1509 01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:36,760 when we were doing these grants, we had 1510 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:38,200 to read all the grants and track them 1511 01:00:38,200 --> 01:00:39,920 and it was crazy and 1512 01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:42,120 um Melissa was a volunteer at that point 1513 01:00:42,120 --> 01:00:45,120 and she was running that system. So, 1514 01:00:45,120 --> 01:00:48,440 it uh I feel like this is a good use of 1515 01:00:48,440 --> 01:00:50,600 that funds for the for the moment. I 1516 01:00:50,600 --> 01:00:51,760 mean, 1517 01:00:51,760 --> 01:00:53,040 um 1518 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:54,600 and we should and I just really want to 1519 01:00:54,600 --> 01:00:56,720 put this whole grant cycle behind us so 1520 01:00:56,720 --> 01:00:58,960 that we can talk about the future. 1521 01:00:58,960 --> 01:01:00,440 >> Amy, you are not the only one. 1522 01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,720 >> Right, So, all right. So, I'm going to say 1523 01:01:03,720 --> 01:01:05,040 there's a motion on the floor. We have a 1524 01:01:05,040 --> 01:01:06,040 second, right? 1525 01:01:06,040 --> 01:01:06,720 >> Yeah. 1526 01:01:06,720 --> 01:01:08,840 >> Are you Okay, let's go for a vote then. 1527 01:01:08,840 --> 01:01:10,360 On the motion, everyone in favor say 1528 01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,280 aye. Approved by the board of directors. 1529 01:01:12,280 --> 01:01:15,040 And that's unanimous among those who are 1530 01:01:15,040 --> 01:01:16,400 here. 1531 01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:18,280 All voting members. Great. 1532 01:01:18,280 --> 01:01:19,560 Approved. 1533 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:19,960 Thank you. 1534 01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:22,960 >> thing I would love to ask just because 1535 01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:24,640 Corey, you're here and I'm really sorry 1536 01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:26,560 I'm not picking on you. 1537 01:01:26,560 --> 01:01:29,040 I want to send out a survey and share 1538 01:01:29,040 --> 01:01:31,280 the results with this group about how if 1539 01:01:31,280 --> 01:01:34,080 the process was too cumbersome. 1540 01:01:34,080 --> 01:01:36,280 Having gone through it, did you feel 1541 01:01:36,280 --> 01:01:38,560 like it was 1542 01:01:38,560 --> 01:01:40,360 too much, too little? Is there something 1543 01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:41,680 that you would change? Is there 1544 01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:43,960 something that you felt like, "Listen, 1545 01:01:43,960 --> 01:01:46,480 that was not cool."? 1546 01:01:46,480 --> 01:01:49,800 >> Uh the reporting the reporting process 1547 01:01:49,800 --> 01:01:52,760 uh for me was great. Um I have also gone 1548 01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,000 through many federal grant reporting 1549 01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,360 processes and 1550 01:01:57,360 --> 01:01:58,920 um 1551 01:01:58,920 --> 01:02:01,680 private grant 1552 01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:03,640 as well. Um 1553 01:02:03,640 --> 01:02:04,840 so 1554 01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,800 I I don't know how great it was. 1555 01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,160 I had a good experience comparatively. 1556 01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:11,600 Um 1557 01:02:11,600 --> 01:02:13,320 I would be interested to hear the 1558 01:02:13,320 --> 01:02:15,760 feedback from people that aren't as 1559 01:02:15,760 --> 01:02:17,920 familiar with the grant writing process, 1560 01:02:17,920 --> 01:02:19,720 but for me I thought it was 1561 01:02:19,720 --> 01:02:22,200 great. It was like I knew the amount. 1562 01:02:22,200 --> 01:02:23,160 Um 1563 01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,040 I 1564 01:02:25,040 --> 01:02:28,440 was able to I had receipts to submit. 1565 01:02:28,440 --> 01:02:29,360 You made a 1566 01:02:29,360 --> 01:02:30,720 I thought it was great and I loved the 1567 01:02:30,720 --> 01:02:33,080 way that you displayed that. 1568 01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:34,600 Um 1569 01:02:34,600 --> 01:02:36,680 as far as the amount that we requested 1570 01:02:36,680 --> 01:02:39,080 versus the amount that we received. 1571 01:02:39,080 --> 01:02:41,708 Uh that's a pretty cool 1572 01:02:41,708 --> 01:02:42,240 >> [laughter] 1573 01:02:42,240 --> 01:02:43,520 >> Sure. Okay, [clears throat] we'll send 1574 01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:45,160 out a survey and I'll send you guys the 1575 01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:47,160 >> mean that's super Yeah, but also like 1576 01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:50,400 even just like the the results So I was 1577 01:02:50,400 --> 01:02:51,360 concerned when you talked about 1578 01:02:51,360 --> 01:02:53,120 switching it to a reimbursement program 1579 01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,360 that that was a lot to ask of people. I 1580 01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,480 think the numbers speak for themselves. 1581 01:02:57,480 --> 01:03:00,280 You just burst the money. Like they did 1582 01:03:00,280 --> 01:03:02,320 it. All these grantees, we have of 1583 01:03:02,320 --> 01:03:04,400 various types of organizations, they 1584 01:03:04,400 --> 01:03:06,360 figured it out. They got receipts. They 1585 01:03:06,360 --> 01:03:08,320 did a project. Like we spent the money. 1586 01:03:08,320 --> 01:03:10,440 Like it it worked. So that's awesome. I 1587 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:13,080 mean I think it proved it a feasible way 1588 01:03:13,080 --> 01:03:16,040 to do it and we now, as a result of the 1589 01:03:16,040 --> 01:03:17,760 way you structured it as a reimbursement 1590 01:03:17,760 --> 01:03:19,160 program, have a full accounting for 1591 01:03:19,160 --> 01:03:24,120 every dollar spent. So, that's Those are huge huge accomplishments. 1592 01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:25,960 >> Yeah, we had people use the advance and 1593 01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,560 we tested that also because the golf 1594 01:03:28,560 --> 01:03:29,800 course, instead of going the 1595 01:03:29,800 --> 01:03:31,960 reimbursement, they 1596 01:03:31,960 --> 01:03:35,560 filled out to have the invoices paid. 1597 01:03:35,560 --> 01:03:37,320 And that worked out well, too. And we're 1598 01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:38,040 still 1599 01:03:38,040 --> 01:03:39,240 >> That's a great way to do it. 1600 01:03:39,240 --> 01:03:39,960 >> Yeah. 1601 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:41,880 >> Okay, are we moving on to the next grant 1602 01:03:41,880 --> 01:03:43,960 cycle officially? 1603 01:03:43,960 --> 01:03:44,160 >> I think 1604 01:03:44,160 --> 01:03:47,640 >> Um yeah, we're ready to. So, but that 1605 01:03:47,640 --> 01:03:49,960 So, this next grant cycle though is the 1606 01:03:49,960 --> 01:03:52,720 one for this year, which is the one that 1607 01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:55,000 has supported already 1608 01:03:55,000 --> 01:03:58,640 the contractor for the airport to 1609 01:03:58,640 --> 01:04:00,640 negotiate there 1610 01:04:00,640 --> 01:04:04,400 um some salary for Melissa and having an 1611 01:04:04,400 --> 01:04:06,480 economic development department. 1612 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:10,240 And there is you know, so that adds up 1613 01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:14,760 to around 100,000 of the 200,000. And it 1614 01:04:14,760 --> 01:04:17,080 was budgeted by the county commission 1615 01:04:17,080 --> 01:04:18,720 for the other for the remainder of it to 1616 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:22,760 also go to economic development internal 1617 01:04:22,760 --> 01:04:24,880 county use of economic development 1618 01:04:24,880 --> 01:04:26,080 funds. There's 1619 01:04:26,080 --> 01:04:27,320 >> And that's their prerogative and we 1620 01:04:27,320 --> 01:04:29,280 don't have to do anything because they 1621 01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:30,200 didn't ask us to. 1622 01:04:30,200 --> 01:04:31,960 >> Well, it's sort of an interesting point 1623 01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:33,120 here where that we're at. I mean, I 1624 01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:35,360 think that 1625 01:04:35,360 --> 01:04:37,600 they're still within statute the sort of 1626 01:04:37,600 --> 01:04:39,840 like job that we're supposed to do of 1627 01:04:39,840 --> 01:04:43,720 making a recommendation. Um so, I 1628 01:04:43,720 --> 01:04:46,800 obviously what we recommend or don't 1629 01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:49,160 recommend won't have an impact on the 1630 01:04:49,160 --> 01:04:50,400 budget because that was approved by the 1631 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,800 commission, right? But we still have the 1632 01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,520 opportunity and maybe responsibility to 1633 01:04:55,520 --> 01:04:57,040 make some sort of a recommendation 1634 01:04:57,040 --> 01:04:57,960 there. 1635 01:04:57,960 --> 01:04:59,160 I think there's like two things to 1636 01:04:59,160 --> 01:05:01,680 consider here. One is 1637 01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:03,720 there's another $100,000. Maybe Melissa 1638 01:05:03,720 --> 01:05:05,840 can give us an update on what the plan 1639 01:05:05,840 --> 01:05:07,960 is with that. 1640 01:05:07,960 --> 01:05:10,200 And then separate from that, we can talk 1641 01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:11,520 about if there's anything else that we 1642 01:05:11,520 --> 01:05:14,000 want to include in any recommendation or 1643 01:05:14,000 --> 01:05:15,000 whether we don't want to make a 1644 01:05:15,000 --> 01:05:16,760 recommendation or 1645 01:05:16,760 --> 01:05:18,840 >> Well, my understanding of 1646 01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:21,080 the state's 1647 01:05:21,080 --> 01:05:23,120 description of how this works is they 1648 01:05:23,120 --> 01:05:24,680 give the money to the county, the county 1649 01:05:24,680 --> 01:05:26,360 decides whether what they want to do 1650 01:05:26,360 --> 01:05:27,400 with it. 1651 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,960 And so, prior to this, the county said 1652 01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:31,720 we want to do grants and they gave it to 1653 01:05:31,720 --> 01:05:33,400 this committee and said, "Figure it 1654 01:05:33,400 --> 01:05:34,760 out." 1655 01:05:34,760 --> 01:05:37,320 When if they haven't said that, 1656 01:05:37,320 --> 01:05:41,030 if they I don't think that we 1657 01:05:41,040 --> 01:05:43,280 We're We're completely 1658 01:05:43,280 --> 01:05:44,320 um 1659 01:05:44,320 --> 01:05:46,800 I mean, the commission 1660 01:05:46,800 --> 01:05:48,760 has to task us with stuff is my 1661 01:05:48,760 --> 01:05:49,400 understanding. 1662 01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:51,240 >> I don't think so, actually. 1663 01:05:51,240 --> 01:05:52,880 My understanding of state statute is 1664 01:05:52,880 --> 01:05:54,600 that it's the other way around. Like 1665 01:05:54,600 --> 01:05:57,120 that we are responsible with making a 1666 01:05:57,120 --> 01:05:58,880 recommendation and then the commission 1667 01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:01,080 acts on that however they want to. With 1668 01:06:01,080 --> 01:06:02,400 you know, they can take or leave 1669 01:06:02,400 --> 01:06:05,040 anything from it. And that's what did 1670 01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:06,480 not really happen 1671 01:06:06,480 --> 01:06:06,960 >> No. 1672 01:06:06,960 --> 01:06:09,080 >> that exactly that way this past year, 1673 01:06:09,080 --> 01:06:11,280 you know? So, that's That's where I 1674 01:06:11,280 --> 01:06:11,920 think there is 1675 01:06:11,920 --> 01:06:13,680 >> Well, you guys did advise on these 1676 01:06:13,680 --> 01:06:15,720 before the money was spent. 1677 01:06:15,720 --> 01:06:16,760 >> We so far 1678 01:06:16,760 --> 01:06:17,400 >> Right. Yeah. 1679 01:06:17,400 --> 01:06:18,440 >> So far Well, 1680 01:06:18,440 --> 01:06:20,240 >> So, technically you're still in 1681 01:06:20,240 --> 01:06:20,960 compliance. 1682 01:06:20,960 --> 01:06:22,560 >> Well, I mean, I don't want to I don't 1683 01:06:22,560 --> 01:06:28,120 want to put us in non-compliance, but we advised on the contract for the 1684 01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:29,640 airport before that money was spent. 1685 01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:31,440 That's the extent. 1686 01:06:31,440 --> 01:06:33,240 >> the only one that has been done so far. 1687 01:06:33,240 --> 01:06:34,440 That's what she means by it's in 1688 01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:37,800 compliance. Like this is for FY 2027. 1689 01:06:37,800 --> 01:06:40,160 You haven't received this money yet. 1690 01:06:40,160 --> 01:06:41,280 We haven't even applied for it. 1691 01:06:41,280 --> 01:06:43,680 >> to reimburse the $50,000 that the county 1692 01:06:43,680 --> 01:06:44,400 already spent. 1693 01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:45,240 >> Correct. 1694 01:06:45,240 --> 01:06:47,360 >> Yeah. Uh for It's for 1695 01:06:47,360 --> 01:06:48,920 >> Fiscal year 2027. 1696 01:06:48,920 --> 01:06:50,640 >> What is fiscal year 2027 run in the 1697 01:06:50,640 --> 01:06:51,240 state of Utah? 1698 01:06:51,240 --> 01:06:53,320 >> September October. No. 1699 01:06:53,320 --> 01:06:56,080 July Is it July? 1700 01:06:56,080 --> 01:06:56,360 Yeah. 1701 01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:56,840 >> July should be 1702 01:06:56,840 --> 01:06:57,600 >> Yeah. 1703 01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:59,160 >> Okay. You're making 1704 01:06:59,160 --> 01:06:59,360 this up. 1705 01:06:59,360 --> 01:07:01,080 >> Their fiscal year is going to start and 1706 01:07:01,080 --> 01:07:02,040 that's the money we have. 1707 01:07:02,040 --> 01:07:03,680 >> We're ending We're just ending June 1708 01:07:03,680 --> 01:07:05,960 30th. We just ended this is cycle. 1709 01:07:05,960 --> 01:07:07,840 >> So, June 30th is the end of all the 1710 01:07:07,840 --> 01:07:08,920 stuff you just talked about. 1711 01:07:08,920 --> 01:07:10,960 >> So, July is when the next one is. 1712 01:07:10,960 --> 01:07:12,920 >> It's our assistant director. So, so they 1713 01:07:12,920 --> 01:07:16,240 will be reimbursing the golf course one. 1714 01:07:16,240 --> 01:07:19,600 And then some other items. 1715 01:07:19,600 --> 01:07:22,270 >> Oh, got you. 1716 01:07:22,280 --> 01:07:24,080 » But yeah, so technically you are still 1717 01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,360 in in compliance. 1718 01:07:26,360 --> 01:07:28,040 >> Okay, I'm glad to hear that. The state 1719 01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:29,911 feels that way. I would let you know. 1720 01:07:29,911 --> 01:07:30,840 >> [laughter] 1721 01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:32,520 >> Um I think there's still some space for 1722 01:07:32,520 --> 01:07:35,000 discussion on on that, but 1723 01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:36,520 >> So, yeah, here's her 1724 01:07:36,520 --> 01:07:38,680 >> I'll put this Yeah, perfect. 1725 01:07:38,680 --> 01:07:42,280 >> So, the way that I feel is it is the 1726 01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:44,080 board's 1727 01:07:44,080 --> 01:07:47,240 duty, obligation, whatever, to advise. 1728 01:07:47,240 --> 01:07:49,000 And so, I wanted to make sure that I'm 1729 01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,120 doing my homework and sharing with the 1730 01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:55,440 board, here's what I would recommend. 1731 01:07:55,440 --> 01:07:56,800 And then 1732 01:07:56,800 --> 01:07:58,960 you guys do as a board whatever you feel 1733 01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:02,520 like you need to do as a board. 1734 01:08:02,520 --> 01:08:04,400 But before we do that, just because we 1735 01:08:04,400 --> 01:08:06,040 have our commission liaison here, so I'm 1736 01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:07,040 going to take advantage of that 1737 01:08:07,040 --> 01:08:09,200 opportunity 1738 01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:11,560 to have their ear so that they can take 1739 01:08:11,560 --> 01:08:14,960 this back to the commission because I 1740 01:08:14,960 --> 01:08:17,040 don't really understand where it is that 1741 01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:19,000 we're sitting and what the intent is and 1742 01:08:19,000 --> 01:08:21,080 what we want to do moving forward. So, 1743 01:08:21,080 --> 01:08:22,839 my understanding of this without having 1744 01:08:22,839 --> 01:08:24,799 any specific conversations with the 1745 01:08:24,799 --> 01:08:26,000 commission 1746 01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:28,319 is that we basically had an economic 1747 01:08:28,319 --> 01:08:30,600 development department that was paid for 1748 01:08:30,600 --> 01:08:31,720 out of economic development 1749 01:08:31,720 --> 01:08:33,720 diversification funds. 1750 01:08:33,720 --> 01:08:36,440 And after the audit, the one thing that 1751 01:08:36,440 --> 01:08:39,759 I do know is that was completely gutted. 1752 01:08:39,759 --> 01:08:41,720 And when I say gutted, I mean that there 1753 01:08:41,720 --> 01:08:44,400 wasn't even $10 worth of budget. I have 1754 01:08:44,400 --> 01:08:47,080 been buying my own software or licensing 1755 01:08:47,080 --> 01:08:49,359 my own things or like I wanted to go to 1756 01:08:49,359 --> 01:08:51,120 Utah One Summit, so I paid for that 1757 01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,120 myself and then we got some grant money 1758 01:08:53,120 --> 01:08:55,040 from CERTO or whatever. 1759 01:08:55,040 --> 01:08:57,759 There's just no budget for an economic 1760 01:08:57,759 --> 01:08:59,799 development department. So, it's my 1761 01:08:59,799 --> 01:09:01,920 understanding that we want to be able to 1762 01:09:01,920 --> 01:09:03,160 build that, we want to build that 1763 01:09:03,160 --> 01:09:05,600 capacity, and that this is sort of like 1764 01:09:05,600 --> 01:09:09,240 a recovery year. So, we use the budget, 1765 01:09:09,240 --> 01:09:11,080 we pay for 1766 01:09:11,080 --> 01:09:12,680 some staff 1767 01:09:12,680 --> 01:09:15,240 from the RCG funds this year, and this 1768 01:09:15,240 --> 01:09:17,240 is what we have absolutely no clarity 1769 01:09:17,240 --> 01:09:18,120 on. 1770 01:09:18,120 --> 01:09:20,040 My assumption would be is that once we 1771 01:09:20,040 --> 01:09:22,040 build that capacity, or we begin to 1772 01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:24,160 build that capacity in that department, 1773 01:09:24,160 --> 01:09:25,960 that at some point 1774 01:09:25,960 --> 01:09:28,160 we wouldn't use RCG funds for that. We 1775 01:09:28,160 --> 01:09:31,839 may just say, "Hey, this is how we 1776 01:09:31,839 --> 01:09:34,279 fund economic development." But, I don't 1777 01:09:34,279 --> 01:09:35,920 know, and I think that that's something 1778 01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:37,680 for the commission to be able to talk 1779 01:09:37,680 --> 01:09:39,319 about and say, "What is our plan long 1780 01:09:39,319 --> 01:09:41,359 term for economic development? Is it 1781 01:09:41,359 --> 01:09:43,200 important to us? Do we feel like this is 1782 01:09:43,200 --> 01:09:46,240 a function that we want to invest in? Or 1783 01:09:46,240 --> 01:09:48,240 do we kind of feel like it works just 1784 01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:50,799 fine to have it run with the RCG funds, 1785 01:09:50,799 --> 01:09:52,400 and other counties do that, and that's 1786 01:09:52,400 --> 01:09:54,440 how we want to do it moving forward?" 1787 01:09:54,440 --> 01:09:56,480 So, as I was looking at putting together 1788 01:09:56,480 --> 01:09:58,880 the plan or the proposal 1789 01:09:58,880 --> 01:10:01,080 without having that context, I'll just 1790 01:10:01,080 --> 01:10:03,400 say that that's kind of my assumption is 1791 01:10:03,400 --> 01:10:04,760 we're not really sure yet, so we're 1792 01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:06,240 going to do it this year. 1793 01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:08,000 And the intention is we want to decide 1794 01:10:08,000 --> 01:10:09,840 as a commission what our long-term 1795 01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:11,480 strategy is, how important do we think 1796 01:10:11,480 --> 01:10:13,240 it is, and how we feel like we need to 1797 01:10:13,240 --> 01:10:14,920 invest in that, or if we do think that 1798 01:10:14,920 --> 01:10:17,360 it's a long-term RCG 1799 01:10:17,360 --> 01:10:19,280 funding solution. 1800 01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:22,160 So, not knowing that, I've crafted it 1801 01:10:22,160 --> 01:10:24,440 all as capacity building. 1802 01:10:24,440 --> 01:10:27,840 So, I wanted to use the same form 1803 01:10:27,840 --> 01:10:29,560 that we have to use for reporting, cuz I 1804 01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,200 don't want to keep duplicating efforts. 1805 01:10:31,200 --> 01:10:32,920 Man, there's a lot of people work. So, 1806 01:10:32,920 --> 01:10:34,360 I'm trying to streamline it down and 1807 01:10:34,360 --> 01:10:36,760 make it as easy as possible for this to 1808 01:10:36,760 --> 01:10:39,040 be passed along to someone else. 1809 01:10:39,040 --> 01:10:41,000 So, using that same format, the way that 1810 01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:43,120 I've outlined it is we've already got 1811 01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:44,560 the vote on the Canyonlands Field 1812 01:10:44,560 --> 01:10:47,120 Airport of the $50,000. 1813 01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:51,000 I did verify with them, Chris, that they 1814 01:10:51,000 --> 01:10:53,680 have used all of the 50, and they will 1815 01:10:53,680 --> 01:10:56,640 also use more than that. My assumption 1816 01:10:56,640 --> 01:10:59,160 is out of the airport budget. Because 1817 01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:01,160 now what the contractor is doing is 1818 01:11:01,160 --> 01:11:03,800 they're helping define terms. So, 1819 01:11:03,800 --> 01:11:06,160 they've pulled every contract that 1820 01:11:06,160 --> 01:11:07,920 SkyWest currently has with small 1821 01:11:07,920 --> 01:11:10,040 airports. They're reading all of the 1822 01:11:10,040 --> 01:11:12,400 fine print, everything that they have 1823 01:11:12,400 --> 01:11:14,480 given to other airports, and they want 1824 01:11:14,480 --> 01:11:15,880 to make sure that we are getting the 1825 01:11:15,880 --> 01:11:18,280 best deal possible including, "Here's 1826 01:11:18,280 --> 01:11:19,600 how many local people that we want you 1827 01:11:19,600 --> 01:11:21,680 to hire. Here's what we consider to be a 1828 01:11:21,680 --> 01:11:23,680 living wage. Here's what we need to 1829 01:11:23,680 --> 01:11:25,800 understand about affordable housing in 1830 01:11:25,800 --> 01:11:27,400 Grand County." 1831 01:11:27,400 --> 01:11:29,560 And they're doing that on their own, but 1832 01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:31,280 it's my understanding that that's above 1833 01:11:31,280 --> 01:11:32,800 and beyond and will be coming from a 1834 01:11:32,800 --> 01:11:36,080 different budget. We haven't been asked 1835 01:11:36,080 --> 01:11:38,200 for any budget or funding, so I didn't 1836 01:11:38,200 --> 01:11:39,960 accommodate for that. 1837 01:11:39,960 --> 01:11:42,800 And then if you go down to the county 1838 01:11:42,800 --> 01:11:44,240 use, 1839 01:11:44,240 --> 01:11:45,720 the commission had said during the 1840 01:11:45,720 --> 01:11:47,400 budgeting process last year that they 1841 01:11:47,400 --> 01:11:50,080 wanted to use $60,000 for development 1842 01:11:50,080 --> 01:11:52,280 staff, so I captured that. 1843 01:11:52,280 --> 01:11:55,080 Conference, workshops, and training, 1844 01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:56,960 which I've kind of gotten a list from Go 1845 01:11:56,960 --> 01:11:59,720 Ed about what they recommend, what they 1846 01:11:59,720 --> 01:12:01,480 think that would be helpful, and I've 1847 01:12:01,480 --> 01:12:03,760 accommodated for that in the budget. 1848 01:12:03,760 --> 01:12:06,040 And then memberships and partnerships, I 1849 01:12:06,040 --> 01:12:08,000 have it $30,000. 1850 01:12:08,000 --> 01:12:09,840 The reason why I have it at $30,000 is 1851 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:11,920 we still don't have an exact 1852 01:12:11,920 --> 01:12:15,280 number from EDC Utah, but for what we 1853 01:12:15,280 --> 01:12:18,240 need, they had said, "Oh, between 20 and 1854 01:12:18,240 --> 01:12:19,840 $30,000." 1855 01:12:19,840 --> 01:12:21,440 So, I'm like, "Okay." We don't know what 1856 01:12:21,440 --> 01:12:23,680 that is exactly. Can you go into what 1857 01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:27,040 EDC Utah does? Yes. So, EDC Utah has 1858 01:12:27,040 --> 01:12:30,240 been contracted by uh Go Ed 1859 01:12:30,240 --> 01:12:32,120 to offer a certain specific suite of 1860 01:12:32,120 --> 01:12:34,480 services. Most of them are around and 1861 01:12:34,480 --> 01:12:35,800 Devereaux would know a lot more about 1862 01:12:35,800 --> 01:12:38,840 this than I would, but around the idea 1863 01:12:38,840 --> 01:12:42,200 of attraction, retention, expansion 1864 01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:44,920 of workforce. So, us being able to say, 1865 01:12:44,920 --> 01:12:46,320 "Here's our strategy. Here's what we 1866 01:12:46,320 --> 01:12:48,680 need you to do for us." And then they 1867 01:12:48,680 --> 01:12:51,440 would go out and their job is to bring 1868 01:12:51,440 --> 01:12:54,320 those folks in. So, we have neglected 1869 01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:55,920 our membership. We're supposed to be 1870 01:12:55,920 --> 01:12:57,520 paying a baseline membership and we 1871 01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:00,000 neglected that. So, our county profile 1872 01:13:00,000 --> 01:13:02,600 at the state level is about 5 years out 1873 01:13:02,600 --> 01:13:04,920 of date right now and hasn't been 1874 01:13:04,920 --> 01:13:07,240 updated. So, they've got some cleanup 1875 01:13:07,240 --> 01:13:09,440 work to do for us and then we've got 1876 01:13:09,440 --> 01:13:10,880 some things that we really need for them 1877 01:13:10,880 --> 01:13:13,000 to do for us moving forward. 1878 01:13:13,000 --> 01:13:15,520 So, I've captured that membership in 1879 01:13:15,520 --> 01:13:16,520 there 1880 01:13:16,520 --> 01:13:18,280 and then 1881 01:13:18,280 --> 01:13:20,360 county profile development positioning 1882 01:13:20,360 --> 01:13:24,320 and marketing and budgeted at $10,000. 1883 01:13:24,320 --> 01:13:25,920 So, 1884 01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:28,360 those are things like the pieces that 1885 01:13:28,360 --> 01:13:31,680 we'll use for attraction, recruitment, 1886 01:13:31,680 --> 01:13:34,320 website stuff. One of the big things 1887 01:13:34,320 --> 01:13:36,040 that would go under this category for me 1888 01:13:36,040 --> 01:13:37,960 is I believe that as a county we're in 1889 01:13:37,960 --> 01:13:40,040 desperate need of a dashboard 1890 01:13:40,040 --> 01:13:41,880 to be able to help us track some really 1891 01:13:41,880 --> 01:13:43,720 key statistics that we're not really 1892 01:13:43,720 --> 01:13:45,680 actively paying attention to right now 1893 01:13:45,680 --> 01:13:48,360 to our detriment, I believe. So, things 1894 01:13:48,360 --> 01:13:50,360 like for example, 1895 01:13:50,360 --> 01:13:54,520 uh we have a divergence of tourism jobs. 1896 01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,160 So, we're getting more and more tourism 1897 01:13:56,160 --> 01:13:58,320 jobs and we're building in that category 1898 01:13:58,320 --> 01:14:00,280 and unfortunately, those jobs are paying 1899 01:14:00,280 --> 01:14:02,400 less and less. So, over the last 5 1900 01:14:02,400 --> 01:14:04,080 years, if you look at those statistics, 1901 01:14:04,080 --> 01:14:05,520 what you'll see is you'll see an 1902 01:14:05,520 --> 01:14:08,320 increase in jobs, which is nice, except 1903 01:14:08,320 --> 01:14:10,400 that they are consistently becoming more 1904 01:14:10,400 --> 01:14:12,440 low paying. It's not really a great 1905 01:14:12,440 --> 01:14:14,360 thing. There are other things from an 1906 01:14:14,360 --> 01:14:16,840 economic mobility standpoint that are 1907 01:14:16,840 --> 01:14:19,600 not good news for us as a county in 1908 01:14:19,600 --> 01:14:22,400 terms of what are your outcomes look for 1909 01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:26,400 jobs if you are born within the county 1910 01:14:26,400 --> 01:14:28,200 and those statistics right now for us 1911 01:14:28,200 --> 01:14:30,800 are getting fairly abysmal. So, being 1912 01:14:30,800 --> 01:14:32,600 able to look at those things and say 1913 01:14:32,600 --> 01:14:34,200 where we really trying to focus and 1914 01:14:34,200 --> 01:14:36,240 where are we moving the needle, those 1915 01:14:36,240 --> 01:14:38,800 are some of the things that we need. 1916 01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:41,240 And then I've got reporting, studies, 1917 01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:45,000 and profiles and I have that at $10,000. 1918 01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:47,320 So, for example, we know that we've got 1919 01:14:47,320 --> 01:14:50,440 a huge sales tax leakage challenge in a 1920 01:14:50,440 --> 01:14:52,560 bunch of different areas. 1921 01:14:52,560 --> 01:14:54,520 We don't have any budget available to be 1922 01:14:54,520 --> 01:14:57,640 able to get those standard reports. So, 1923 01:14:57,640 --> 01:14:59,320 I've got that in there. 1924 01:14:59,320 --> 01:15:02,000 And then, matching funds for non-go-ed 1925 01:15:02,000 --> 01:15:04,080 economic development projects grants, 1926 01:15:04,080 --> 01:15:06,920 I've got that at 30,000. And what I 1927 01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:08,880 talked to Deborah about is I'm calling 1928 01:15:08,880 --> 01:15:11,480 this seed capital. So, there are several 1929 01:15:11,480 --> 01:15:13,960 grants that I want to go after for some 1930 01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:15,720 economic development projects, but we 1931 01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:16,880 just don't have matching budget 1932 01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:18,760 available at the county level. 1933 01:15:18,760 --> 01:15:20,880 So, if for example, we're applying for 1934 01:15:20,880 --> 01:15:24,000 $400,000 economic mobility grant that 1935 01:15:24,000 --> 01:15:26,400 requires the county to have a match, the 1936 01:15:26,400 --> 01:15:28,920 county doesn't have budget in the 2027 1937 01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:33,750 budget to be able to do that matching. 1938 01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,040 So, that's kind of like the high-level. 1939 01:15:36,040 --> 01:15:37,237 Dive in. 1940 01:15:37,237 --> 01:15:38,520 >> [snorts] 1941 01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:41,160 >> So, just to be clear, you're proposing 1942 01:15:41,160 --> 01:15:44,360 this budget, and what year is this for? 1943 01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:46,960 >> It's the fiscal 2027. 1944 01:15:46,960 --> 01:15:47,600 >> Which starts 1945 01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:48,520 >> Starting next month. 1946 01:15:48,520 --> 01:15:50,480 >> As soon as she submits her reporting, 1947 01:15:50,480 --> 01:15:51,520 the new application [clears throat] will 1948 01:15:51,520 --> 01:15:54,710 generate. 1949 01:15:54,720 --> 01:15:56,360 » The new application for the grant. 1950 01:15:56,360 --> 01:15:57,520 >> For this one, yeah. 1951 01:15:57,520 --> 01:16:01,680 >> And so, this we would be using all the 1952 01:16:01,680 --> 01:16:05,600 150 that we would have got that 1953 01:16:05,600 --> 01:16:07,120 Which grant is it? Sorry. 1954 01:16:07,120 --> 01:16:08,120 >> It's the RCG. 1955 01:16:08,120 --> 01:16:12,240 >> RCG. So, we would use our full RCG grant 1956 01:16:12,240 --> 01:16:13,920 again next year. 1957 01:16:13,920 --> 01:16:16,000 >> Not again. This is the time that the 1958 01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:17,160 county budgeted for. 1959 01:16:17,160 --> 01:16:18,960 This is that year that the commission 1960 01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:20,640 budgeted for last year. 1961 01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:22,880 >> Got it. So, this is the time we knew we 1962 01:16:22,880 --> 01:16:24,400 were going to do this, and now this is 1963 01:16:24,400 --> 01:16:26,800 the budget that we're going to that we 1964 01:16:26,800 --> 01:16:28,040 would do. 1965 01:16:28,040 --> 01:16:29,680 Um 1966 01:16:29,680 --> 01:16:30,880 and 1967 01:16:30,880 --> 01:16:35,160 you need us to recommend this? 1968 01:16:35,160 --> 01:16:37,720 I mean, do we officially have a say, or 1969 01:16:37,720 --> 01:16:39,240 do we have a responsibility here? 1970 01:16:39,240 --> 01:16:43,640 >> I mean, we have a responsibility to 1971 01:16:43,640 --> 01:16:45,760 advise the county legislative body on 1972 01:16:45,760 --> 01:16:47,480 what projects should be funded by grant 1973 01:16:47,480 --> 01:16:49,880 money provided to a rural county. 1974 01:16:49,880 --> 01:16:53,200 So, yes, at a general level, yes, we 1975 01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:57,720 have an advisory duty. 1976 01:16:57,720 --> 01:16:59,560 >> Okay. Do we have anything else? 1977 01:16:59,560 --> 01:17:01,720 >> don't think how we exercise that. Like 1978 01:17:01,720 --> 01:17:03,200 there's some, you know, I mean there's 1979 01:17:03,200 --> 01:17:05,200 not It doesn't say specifically in here 1980 01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:10,880 that has to look a certain way, but it exists as a general consultant. 1981 01:17:10,880 --> 01:17:14,600 >> Okay. And so you do this this if if we 1982 01:17:14,600 --> 01:17:16,840 do nothing, this would get submitted 1983 01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:18,640 because it would come from the county. 1984 01:17:18,640 --> 01:17:19,160 >> No. 1985 01:17:19,160 --> 01:17:20,800 >> So, you would In order to get this 1986 01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:22,320 money, we have to do this. 1987 01:17:22,320 --> 01:17:24,280 >> You have to advise. You have to say, 1988 01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:26,240 "Melissa, I don't agree with this." or 1989 01:17:26,240 --> 01:17:28,440 "Melissa, I love this. This is why I 1990 01:17:28,440 --> 01:17:30,200 don't agree with it. This is what I 1991 01:17:30,200 --> 01:17:32,400 would propose instead." 1992 01:17:32,400 --> 01:17:33,120 >> Got it. 1993 01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:33,760 >> advise. 1994 01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:35,200 >> Okay. Uh 1995 01:17:35,200 --> 01:17:37,320 I have concerns over studying 1996 01:17:37,320 --> 01:17:40,240 socio-economic data 1997 01:17:40,240 --> 01:17:42,880 from this uh 1998 01:17:42,880 --> 01:17:43,760 at 1999 01:17:43,760 --> 01:17:46,800 with this budget and at this level. I 2000 01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:48,600 think that there are a lot of other 2001 01:17:48,600 --> 01:17:51,120 things that we could be doing that would 2002 01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:53,480 make a difference in our county's 2003 01:17:53,480 --> 01:17:55,000 economy. 2004 01:17:55,000 --> 01:17:55,960 Uh 2005 01:17:55,960 --> 01:17:57,120 I think 2006 01:17:57,120 --> 01:17:59,320 you know, there's a lot of that data out 2007 01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:00,360 there. 2008 01:18:00,360 --> 01:18:01,640 Uh 2009 01:18:01,640 --> 01:18:04,160 Headwaters has access to all kinds of 2010 01:18:04,160 --> 01:18:05,640 data that you can look at. I haven't 2011 01:18:05,640 --> 01:18:07,160 looked specifically at the points that 2012 01:18:07,160 --> 01:18:08,440 you just made, Melissa, if that's 2013 01:18:08,440 --> 01:18:10,680 available, but I kind of think it is. 2014 01:18:10,680 --> 01:18:12,960 So, I don't know 2015 01:18:12,960 --> 01:18:13,560 um 2016 01:18:13,560 --> 01:18:15,560 I mean 2017 01:18:15,560 --> 01:18:17,880 our county's 2018 01:18:17,880 --> 01:18:20,880 economy depends on visitation to the 2019 01:18:20,880 --> 01:18:22,760 public lands. 2020 01:18:22,760 --> 01:18:25,240 And if we want to improve things in our 2021 01:18:25,240 --> 01:18:28,480 county, we have to acknowledge that, in 2022 01:18:28,480 --> 01:18:30,920 my opinion. And if we aren't willing to 2023 01:18:30,920 --> 01:18:33,320 acknowledge that, it's sort of 2024 01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,760 rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic, 2025 01:18:35,760 --> 01:18:37,440 in my opinion. [clears throat] Because 2026 01:18:37,440 --> 01:18:39,640 if you're not looking at the main driver 2027 01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:42,000 of where the money's coming from, it's 2028 01:18:42,000 --> 01:18:45,000 hard to influence it to do a better job. 2029 01:18:45,000 --> 01:18:47,200 Like if you're looking at how do we 2030 01:18:47,200 --> 01:18:49,880 encourage higher salaries for the types 2031 01:18:49,880 --> 01:18:51,960 of jobs we have, you have to really 2032 01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:55,680 understand what those jobs are. And we 2033 01:18:55,680 --> 01:18:58,840 are not anywhere USA, our data is going 2034 01:18:58,840 --> 01:19:00,120 to look different from the rest of the 2035 01:19:00,120 --> 01:19:03,320 state. And yes, we want to improve it, 2036 01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:06,120 but we can't just keep saying these jobs 2037 01:19:06,120 --> 01:19:07,840 are no good. Let's keep pointing out how 2038 01:19:07,840 --> 01:19:11,000 bad these jobs are without 2039 01:19:11,000 --> 01:19:12,600 suggesting a way to make those jobs 2040 01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:14,840 better. But if you do all that in a 2041 01:19:14,840 --> 01:19:18,280 vacuum where you're not discussing why 2042 01:19:18,280 --> 01:19:20,840 people are bringing their credit cards 2043 01:19:20,840 --> 01:19:22,560 to Greene County, 2044 01:19:22,560 --> 01:19:24,840 I think you're kind of I just think 2045 01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:25,840 you're it's going to be hard to be 2046 01:19:25,840 --> 01:19:29,000 effective without acknowledging what 2047 01:19:29,000 --> 01:19:31,240 drives our economy. So I have some 2048 01:19:31,240 --> 01:19:34,000 concerns about that. Um 2049 01:19:34,000 --> 01:19:35,720 I mean, yeah, I think we should do some 2050 01:19:35,720 --> 01:19:37,200 studies and we should do some 2051 01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:40,000 conferences and 2052 01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:42,320 we should look at reports, but I don't 2053 01:19:42,320 --> 01:19:45,080 think I don't know um 2054 01:19:45,080 --> 01:19:46,800 it's hard to say 2055 01:19:46,800 --> 01:19:48,760 without seeing the specific study 2056 01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:52,510 proposal if this is 2057 01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:55,240 a great way to spend the money. I just I 2058 01:19:55,240 --> 01:19:57,080 don't think it's enough information. 2059 01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:58,600 >> Well, you in your position, you know, 2060 01:19:58,600 --> 01:20:00,560 you have because you're on the board and 2061 01:20:00,560 --> 01:20:02,720 because you have voice up the board, 2062 01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:05,200 right? You have the opportunity to bring 2063 01:20:05,200 --> 01:20:07,280 studies forward to this group and to 2064 01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:09,320 Melissa. You know, like if you have 2065 01:20:09,320 --> 01:20:11,160 specific studies on topics that you 2066 01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:13,040 think are important. You know, that's 2067 01:20:13,040 --> 01:20:14,960 why I'm here is to like cheerlead you 2068 01:20:14,960 --> 01:20:16,880 all. So like you guys are the ones who 2069 01:20:16,880 --> 01:20:18,600 were chosen to be on this board, you 2070 01:20:18,600 --> 01:20:21,120 know, like let's hear it. You know, what 2071 01:20:21,120 --> 01:20:23,440 studies do you want? You know? 2072 01:20:23,440 --> 01:20:24,440 >> Well 2073 01:20:24,440 --> 01:20:25,880 um 2074 01:20:25,880 --> 01:20:27,480 You know, I I think you have to have a 2075 01:20:27,480 --> 01:20:28,520 plan, 2076 01:20:28,520 --> 01:20:30,400 right? And I I think you're trying Are 2077 01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:33,160 you trying to say like I need a staff 2078 01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:34,480 and a budget 2079 01:20:34,480 --> 01:20:36,480 to build this department. 2080 01:20:36,480 --> 01:20:37,640 And then 2081 01:20:37,640 --> 01:20:40,160 but like we've had like we kind of had 2082 01:20:40,160 --> 01:20:41,240 that 2083 01:20:41,240 --> 01:20:43,480 trail to tomorrow, right? Did that ever 2084 01:20:43,480 --> 01:20:45,440 get adopted? No. 2085 01:20:45,440 --> 01:20:47,840 We've spent a lot money on that plan. 2086 01:20:47,840 --> 01:20:52,160 And it's like, okay, there's a plan. 2087 01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:55,520 Do like do you like work on that plan or 2088 01:20:55,520 --> 01:20:58,280 you suggesting we come up with 2089 01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:00,880 another plan? 2090 01:21:00,880 --> 01:21:01,840 Is 2091 01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:03,400 like I'm trying to see how you're like 2092 01:21:03,400 --> 01:21:04,800 60,000 bucks. Are you going to have 2093 01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:05,880 somebody 2094 01:21:05,880 --> 01:21:07,520 like that's for an assistant? 2095 01:21:07,520 --> 01:21:09,840 >> That's your pay. 2096 01:21:09,840 --> 01:21:12,440 Okay. Okay. So we need somebody in that 2097 01:21:12,440 --> 01:21:15,800 chair and you're going to be 2098 01:21:15,800 --> 01:21:17,280 doing 2099 01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:18,720 what? 2100 01:21:18,720 --> 01:21:21,320 >> So we've got a plan and we've been 2101 01:21:21,320 --> 01:21:22,240 working the plan. 2102 01:21:22,240 --> 01:21:23,736 >> She doesn't work at all. No, no, no. 2103 01:21:23,736 --> 01:21:23,920 >> [laughter] 2104 01:21:23,920 --> 01:21:24,760 >> I I 2105 01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:26,680 No, you're always doing this. So what 2106 01:21:26,680 --> 01:21:29,120 plan is it? Like do we have a thing 2107 01:21:29,120 --> 01:21:31,240 adopted into the general plan or 2108 01:21:31,240 --> 01:21:32,720 >> We're working on the general plan 2109 01:21:32,720 --> 01:21:34,400 adoption. 2110 01:21:34,400 --> 01:21:36,480 We're working on about six key 2111 01:21:36,480 --> 01:21:38,040 initiatives 2112 01:21:38,040 --> 01:21:40,600 that are really really beefy with some 2113 01:21:40,600 --> 01:21:42,680 giant heavy lifting. 2114 01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:45,520 And so basically this budget is in 2115 01:21:45,520 --> 01:21:47,840 support of that plan. 2116 01:21:47,840 --> 01:21:50,200 >> So So you guys are making an amendment 2117 01:21:50,200 --> 01:21:52,000 to the like going to be making an 2118 01:21:52,000 --> 01:21:54,960 amendment to the general plan. Okay. And 2119 01:21:54,960 --> 01:21:56,840 then like is that all internal or you 2120 01:21:56,840 --> 01:22:00,320 guys but like where you'd be like Okay, we need 2121 01:22:00,320 --> 01:22:03,680 an economic study to know median pay or 2122 01:22:03,680 --> 01:22:06,040 something for example. We could be proud 2123 01:22:06,040 --> 01:22:09,840 of those. So I need that study. 2124 01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:12,600 5,000 bucks. Is that kind of the idea? 2125 01:22:12,600 --> 01:22:13,400 Okay. 2126 01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:13,720 >> Yep. 2127 01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:14,800 >> So 2128 01:22:14,800 --> 01:22:17,880 is it common that 2129 01:22:17,880 --> 01:22:20,040 you know, is it common to pay your 2130 01:22:20,040 --> 01:22:22,360 economic director out of 2131 01:22:22,360 --> 01:22:23,360 >> A lot of counties do. 2132 01:22:23,360 --> 01:22:24,080 >> Do they? Okay. 2133 01:22:24,080 --> 01:22:25,440 >> Yeah, and that's why we needed to be 2134 01:22:25,440 --> 01:22:29,160 more direct in what we require, hence 2135 01:22:29,160 --> 01:22:29,880 >> the memo. 2136 01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:32,120 >> Yeah. Okay. I'm starting to get 2137 01:22:32,120 --> 01:22:32,800 >> Yeah. 2138 01:22:32,800 --> 01:22:33,480 >> all the dots. 2139 01:22:33,480 --> 01:22:35,760 >> Yeah. Cuz some counties outsource their 2140 01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:37,280 economic development directors to 2141 01:22:37,280 --> 01:22:40,760 private organizations or a consultant. 2142 01:22:40,760 --> 01:22:42,640 So then that consultant has like five 2143 01:22:42,640 --> 01:22:44,680 counties. And they're getting paid from 2144 01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:47,480 RCG funds from all of that counties. 2145 01:22:47,480 --> 01:22:48,840 Many ways to do this. 2146 01:22:48,840 --> 01:22:50,240 >> Right. 2147 01:22:50,240 --> 01:22:53,760 So by So by generating 2148 01:22:53,760 --> 01:22:57,080 a plan internally 2149 01:22:57,080 --> 01:22:58,680 Okay. I'm 2150 01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:01,400 just trying to fit fit those out. Are we 2151 01:23:01,400 --> 01:23:05,950 going to be like 2152 01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:07,240 Well, I guess we're not privy to that 2153 01:23:07,240 --> 01:23:08,240 process then. 2154 01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:09,680 >> Well, that's the problem. 2155 01:23:09,680 --> 01:23:11,760 >> Right. Well, I'm just saying like 2156 01:23:11,760 --> 01:23:12,640 >> You You are 2157 01:23:12,640 --> 01:23:14,480 >> We covered it. Like we've 2158 01:23:14,480 --> 01:23:15,880 >> I think they're referring to the 2159 01:23:15,880 --> 01:23:18,280 PowerPoint that we 2160 01:23:18,280 --> 01:23:20,320 got had presented to us at the beginning 2161 01:23:20,320 --> 01:23:21,360 of the year. 2162 01:23:21,360 --> 01:23:22,240 All right. 2163 01:23:22,240 --> 01:23:23,320 That's what she's referring to as the 2164 01:23:23,320 --> 01:23:23,800 plan. 2165 01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:26,120 >> Okay. So it's just county generated 2166 01:23:26,120 --> 01:23:27,760 in-house. 2167 01:23:27,760 --> 01:23:30,960 County going up with that. Okay. 2168 01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:32,040 The 2169 01:23:32,040 --> 01:23:33,640 I just think on certain things like 2170 01:23:33,640 --> 01:23:35,560 we've we've you know, the county spent 2171 01:23:35,560 --> 01:23:37,720 money on plans. 2172 01:23:37,720 --> 01:23:39,320 And 2173 01:23:39,320 --> 01:23:40,800 you know 2174 01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:42,800 That That's kind of my thing is like 2175 01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:46,840 okay, like is that a redundancy or 2176 01:23:46,840 --> 01:23:48,400 uh 2177 01:23:48,400 --> 01:23:50,800 That'd be my only concern. I'm not sure. 2178 01:23:50,800 --> 01:23:52,440 Okay. We need to build this department 2179 01:23:52,440 --> 01:23:54,040 up from the ground level. But I just 2180 01:23:54,040 --> 01:23:55,800 understand that the general plan is 2181 01:23:55,800 --> 01:23:58,640 moving forward. I see. I understand. 2182 01:23:58,640 --> 01:23:59,080 >> Sorry. 2183 01:23:59,080 --> 01:24:00,160 >> I mean 2184 01:24:00,160 --> 01:24:02,520 well, sorry. Go ahead. I have a question 2185 01:24:02,520 --> 01:24:04,560 cuz I feel a little off. So the last 2186 01:24:04,560 --> 01:24:07,040 time we met a few months back and we 2187 01:24:07,040 --> 01:24:09,000 were talking about, you know, do we 2188 01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:10,840 bring in Spanish Trail, you know, do we 2189 01:24:10,840 --> 01:24:12,520 bring out these outside sources? Are we 2190 01:24:12,520 --> 01:24:15,160 just asking Louisa to bring us projects 2191 01:24:15,160 --> 01:24:16,720 to vote on? 2192 01:24:16,720 --> 01:24:18,440 Is that this pool of money or 2193 01:24:18,440 --> 01:24:20,600 >> No, that's RCOG. That's the 2194 01:24:20,600 --> 01:24:21,520 >> So that's completely separate. 2195 01:24:21,520 --> 01:24:22,960 >> That's the next conversation. 2196 01:24:22,960 --> 01:24:24,880 >> Yeah, it's that's due at a later time. 2197 01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,080 This is the first recommendation is RCG 2198 01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:29,120 money and then the second second one 2199 01:24:29,120 --> 01:24:31,040 that opens up is the RCOG. 2200 01:24:31,040 --> 01:24:31,880 >> Which is the up to 600,000? 2201 01:24:31,880 --> 01:24:33,160 >> Which is the and it's a competitive 2202 01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:35,640 grant that goes to the state and gets 2203 01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:37,920 decided on and yes, up to 600,000. 2204 01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:40,320 >> This is guaranteed 200,000. 2205 01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:42,560 >> 200,000 just goes basically they open up 2206 01:24:42,560 --> 01:24:45,080 an application and the county gets it as 2207 01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:46,960 long as they do the reporting every year 2208 01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:48,960 and and gets it. So, last year that is 2209 01:24:48,960 --> 01:24:50,720 just ended on June 2210 01:24:50,720 --> 01:24:52,280 this year that is just ending on June 2211 01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:54,440 30th, 2026 with all these subgrants. And 2212 01:24:54,440 --> 01:24:56,240 so, now we completed we went through 2213 01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:58,400 that process last year, completed them 2214 01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:01,720 all um you know, funded them all and 2215 01:25:01,720 --> 01:25:03,200 have all the paperwork on them and so, 2216 01:25:03,200 --> 01:25:05,280 now that new grant applications going to 2217 01:25:05,280 --> 01:25:07,760 go into the state and to come back to 2218 01:25:07,760 --> 01:25:10,000 the county the 200,000 dollars. And this 2219 01:25:10,000 --> 01:25:13,040 is the plan for the 200,000 dollars. At 2220 01:25:13,040 --> 01:25:16,160 budget season, which our our our Grant 2221 01:25:16,160 --> 01:25:19,160 County budget goes from January 1 to 2222 01:25:19,160 --> 01:25:20,760 December 31, so it's a little little 2223 01:25:20,760 --> 01:25:23,360 different. Um when we hired Melissa in 2224 01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:25,560 2025, 2225 01:25:25,560 --> 01:25:27,520 we didn't have any money for economic 2226 01:25:27,520 --> 01:25:29,200 development, so we actually hired her 2227 01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:31,200 outside of budget cuz there was no 2228 01:25:31,200 --> 01:25:33,600 economic development no economic plan, 2229 01:25:33,600 --> 01:25:35,440 hired her out of budget. 2230 01:25:35,440 --> 01:25:37,160 2026 2231 01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:40,240 county budget was very 2232 01:25:40,240 --> 01:25:42,480 rough budgeting season. We were like 2233 01:25:42,480 --> 01:25:44,000 negative 2 million dollars pulling out 2234 01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:45,480 of our 2235 01:25:45,480 --> 01:25:49,000 general plan and so, we had to cut cut cut. So, a piece of that was to 2236 01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:50,840 say, you know, let's go ahead and pay 2237 01:25:50,840 --> 01:25:53,840 economic development out of 2238 01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:55,160 um 2239 01:25:55,160 --> 01:25:58,280 the department out of the RCG funds. So, 2240 01:25:58,280 --> 01:26:00,760 they made that decision. A collective 2241 01:26:00,760 --> 01:26:03,720 body all seven voted yes for that 2242 01:26:03,720 --> 01:26:04,800 without 2243 01:26:04,800 --> 01:26:05,480 >> budget? 2244 01:26:05,480 --> 01:26:06,480 >> For the entire budget, yeah. 2245 01:26:06,480 --> 01:26:07,640 >> there wasn't anything specific. 2246 01:26:07,640 --> 01:26:08,920 >> Yeah, it wasn't anything specific. 2247 01:26:08,920 --> 01:26:09,360 >> that money. 2248 01:26:09,360 --> 01:26:11,040 >> yeah, we we definitely everyone knew 2249 01:26:11,040 --> 01:26:12,240 that that was going to be there. Like 2250 01:26:12,240 --> 01:26:13,720 the commission knew that that's what the 2251 01:26:13,720 --> 01:26:16,520 money was going to be spent for. This 2252 01:26:16,520 --> 01:26:19,240 board still has 2253 01:26:19,240 --> 01:26:21,280 recommendations. They still get to They 2254 01:26:21,280 --> 01:26:23,800 still have to recommend or or not. It 2255 01:26:23,800 --> 01:26:25,440 still goes even if you guys want made a 2256 01:26:25,440 --> 01:26:27,080 whole new plan and said, "You know what? 2257 01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:28,240 We actually want to make a whole new 2258 01:26:28,240 --> 01:26:29,640 plan. We have all these plans. We're 2259 01:26:29,640 --> 01:26:31,240 going to do this." And then we're going 2260 01:26:31,240 --> 01:26:32,680 to take it The commission The commission 2261 01:26:32,680 --> 01:26:34,320 can vote and say, "No, we're going to do 2262 01:26:34,320 --> 01:26:35,400 this plan." 2263 01:26:35,400 --> 01:26:36,920 Or they can say, "We love your plan and 2264 01:26:36,920 --> 01:26:38,400 we're going to do this plan." Or we can 2265 01:26:38,400 --> 01:26:40,120 take pieces of it. So, it's not like 2266 01:26:40,120 --> 01:26:42,720 it's just just not happening. 2267 01:26:42,720 --> 01:26:48,840 The one piece I do want to state about public lands is that every single 2268 01:26:48,840 --> 01:26:50,760 commission meeting and I have my out of 2269 01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:52,760 meetings every single 2270 01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:55,000 week is the people want diversity in 2271 01:26:55,000 --> 01:26:56,600 this community. They do not want every 2272 01:26:56,600 --> 01:26:57,760 single person that's coming here with 2273 01:26:57,760 --> 01:26:59,560 their credit card to be here for public 2274 01:26:59,560 --> 01:27:01,400 lands. They want diversity. I mean, 2275 01:27:01,400 --> 01:27:03,120 that's all what I hear. Just like we had 2276 01:27:03,120 --> 01:27:04,480 I mean, we need housing, we need 2277 01:27:04,480 --> 01:27:06,000 diversity. We need housing, we need 2278 01:27:06,000 --> 01:27:08,440 diversity. So, when we have plans and 2279 01:27:08,440 --> 01:27:10,480 studies to try to figure out, you know, 2280 01:27:10,480 --> 01:27:13,160 diversity of How do we expand our health 2281 01:27:13,160 --> 01:27:14,720 care system? So, people want to come to 2282 01:27:14,720 --> 01:27:17,200 Grand County. How do we expand our care 2283 01:27:17,200 --> 01:27:18,920 center? How do we expand Those are the 2284 01:27:18,920 --> 01:27:20,080 kind of things that this money's going 2285 01:27:20,080 --> 01:27:22,720 to go for for economic development in 2286 01:27:22,720 --> 01:27:24,760 Grand County that's not acknowledging 2287 01:27:24,760 --> 01:27:26,280 public lands. Everybody knows that we 2288 01:27:26,280 --> 01:27:27,840 have public lands. They come here. Do we 2289 01:27:27,840 --> 01:27:29,520 want to protect our public lands? Yes, 2290 01:27:29,520 --> 01:27:31,640 but this money shouldn't go to anything 2291 01:27:31,640 --> 01:27:34,320 about public lands, in my opinion, 2292 01:27:34,320 --> 01:27:36,400 because that's not what we're trying to 2293 01:27:36,400 --> 01:27:38,800 do here. We're trying to expand economic 2294 01:27:38,800 --> 01:27:40,560 development, not just keep on down this 2295 01:27:40,560 --> 01:27:43,240 narrow path that we're on. 2296 01:27:43,240 --> 01:27:44,280 >> So, 2297 01:27:44,280 --> 01:27:44,840 um 2298 01:27:44,840 --> 01:27:47,200 I have I have no problem with using the 2299 01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:48,760 money to set up this economic 2300 01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:50,120 development department and to pay a 2301 01:27:50,120 --> 01:27:52,600 salary. I have no problem with that. And 2302 01:27:52,600 --> 01:27:57,350 I'm not suggesting that we um 2303 01:27:57,360 --> 01:27:59,120 I don't think the public lands path is 2304 01:27:59,120 --> 01:28:01,520 narrow. I think it's huge. 2305 01:28:01,520 --> 01:28:04,040 And I don't know uh 2306 01:28:04,040 --> 01:28:06,840 you know, what you're going to do to 2307 01:28:06,840 --> 01:28:09,320 diversify. Like, I don't I don't know 2308 01:28:09,320 --> 01:28:13,320 how studying the discrepancy in income 2309 01:28:13,320 --> 01:28:15,360 um or the changes in income are going to 2310 01:28:15,360 --> 01:28:17,520 help us figure out how to diversify. 2311 01:28:17,520 --> 01:28:19,640 It's just going to study and say, "Yeah, 2312 01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:21,480 we have a problem. The salary's going 2313 01:28:21,480 --> 01:28:22,520 down." 2314 01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:25,320 So, it's not so much like 2315 01:28:25,320 --> 01:28:27,720 the dichotomy that you present of it's 2316 01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:29,480 either public lands and and it's 2317 01:28:29,480 --> 01:28:32,880 visitors or it's diversified. I don't I 2318 01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:34,280 think that's a false dichotomy, 2319 01:28:34,280 --> 01:28:34,960 actually. 2320 01:28:34,960 --> 01:28:36,480 >> Well, no, it's not a dichotomy. They are 2321 01:28:36,480 --> 01:28:37,560 totally intertwined. 2322 01:28:37,560 --> 01:28:39,080 >> Right. I just heard you say it's only 2323 01:28:39,080 --> 01:28:39,640 public lands. 2324 01:28:39,640 --> 01:28:40,920 >> No, I'm sorry. I want to say that 2325 01:28:40,920 --> 01:28:42,280 there's a diverse, you know, with the 2326 01:28:42,280 --> 01:28:42,440 economy. 2327 01:28:42,440 --> 01:28:44,520 >> Absolutely. Absolutely. But, the problem 2328 01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:46,600 is because 2329 01:28:46,600 --> 01:28:49,160 if if this committee 2330 01:28:49,160 --> 01:28:51,520 when we started working on 2331 01:28:51,520 --> 01:28:53,960 thinking about how to optimize our 2332 01:28:53,960 --> 01:28:56,960 visitation economy and improve our 2333 01:28:56,960 --> 01:28:58,800 visitation economy 2334 01:28:58,800 --> 01:29:01,400 we were kind of told, "You don't get to 2335 01:29:01,400 --> 01:29:02,360 like 2336 01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:03,600 that that's not going to be in the 2337 01:29:03,600 --> 01:29:04,960 general plan." Like, when we were 2338 01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:06,880 looking at the general plan and trying 2339 01:29:06,880 --> 01:29:08,880 to figure out, "Well, how can we get the 2340 01:29:08,880 --> 01:29:10,560 general plan to reflect more of the 2341 01:29:10,560 --> 01:29:13,160 reality instead of be a general plan for 2342 01:29:13,160 --> 01:29:14,400 anywhere, USA?" 2343 01:29:14,400 --> 01:29:16,680 >> Moab, Utah has unique 2344 01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:20,840 >> opportunities and challenges. And we we 2345 01:29:20,840 --> 01:29:22,320 should definitely be addressing those 2346 01:29:22,320 --> 01:29:24,040 and our economic development department 2347 01:29:24,040 --> 01:29:25,840 should be getting in the weeds on these 2348 01:29:25,840 --> 01:29:27,440 issues. So, 2349 01:29:27,440 --> 01:29:29,760 >> So, we need an economic development 2350 01:29:29,760 --> 01:29:32,000 department. We need to pay them. I'm I'm 2351 01:29:32,000 --> 01:29:34,440 concerned about spending money on 2352 01:29:34,440 --> 01:29:37,680 studies that I'm not really clear how 2353 01:29:37,680 --> 01:29:38,840 they're going to help us move the 2354 01:29:38,840 --> 01:29:39,200 needle. 2355 01:29:39,200 --> 01:29:40,880 >> I mean, for me the 2356 01:29:40,880 --> 01:29:42,680 >> I want to be really careful, though, 2357 01:29:42,680 --> 01:29:44,680 just because I want to address the study 2358 01:29:44,680 --> 01:29:45,920 thing just to keep those things 2359 01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:47,960 separate. 2360 01:29:47,960 --> 01:29:50,440 There are things that we want to be able 2361 01:29:50,440 --> 01:29:52,520 to track because we need to measure 2362 01:29:52,520 --> 01:29:53,120 those. 2363 01:29:53,120 --> 01:29:53,920 >> Right? Sure. 2364 01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:56,040 >> So, the things like you just said, those 2365 01:29:56,040 --> 01:29:58,000 are available to us at no cost. I'm 2366 01:29:58,000 --> 01:29:59,520 speaking the Harvard 2367 01:29:59,520 --> 01:30:01,000 >> In-Plan, whatever. 2368 01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:03,040 >> We've got those things. Right. So, what 2369 01:30:03,040 --> 01:30:04,480 I'm talking about when I talk about 2370 01:30:04,480 --> 01:30:06,760 that, just so that everyone's clear, is 2371 01:30:06,760 --> 01:30:09,080 making sure that we're visibly tracking 2372 01:30:09,080 --> 01:30:10,480 those. So, in our general plan 2373 01:30:10,480 --> 01:30:12,320 currently, you guys may or may not be 2374 01:30:12,320 --> 01:30:14,920 aware, I don't know, there are 120 2375 01:30:14,920 --> 01:30:16,760 different metrics that we're required to 2376 01:30:16,760 --> 01:30:19,240 track by that general plan, and we have 2377 01:30:19,240 --> 01:30:21,000 tracked none of them. 2378 01:30:21,000 --> 01:30:23,600 So, and the reason why we're not seeing 2379 01:30:23,600 --> 01:30:25,640 anything move, and we're seeing every 2380 01:30:25,640 --> 01:30:28,120 time that uh 2381 01:30:28,120 --> 01:30:30,160 Robert Spinello comes and does his 2382 01:30:30,160 --> 01:30:32,600 amazing things, or every time we pay 2383 01:30:32,600 --> 01:30:34,160 $150,000 2384 01:30:34,160 --> 01:30:36,120 for a plan, 2385 01:30:36,120 --> 01:30:38,600 we're seeing the same thing. The 2386 01:30:38,600 --> 01:30:40,920 demographic is getting older. 2387 01:30:40,920 --> 01:30:43,840 The jobs are paying less. They're more 2388 01:30:43,840 --> 01:30:45,840 wrapped up in this one area. We're not 2389 01:30:45,840 --> 01:30:48,000 seeing enough of them here. So, it's not 2390 01:30:48,000 --> 01:30:49,520 surprising to all of us. So, what I'm 2391 01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:51,120 talking about doing, when I'm saying we 2392 01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:53,360 need to measure these things, is that I 2393 01:30:53,360 --> 01:30:54,680 want to make sure that we're looking at 2394 01:30:54,680 --> 01:30:56,160 all of them. So, everything that we're 2395 01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:58,080 trying, everything that we're testing, 2396 01:30:58,080 --> 01:30:59,960 everything that we're doubling down on, 2397 01:30:59,960 --> 01:31:01,560 we're making sure that we can track that 2398 01:31:01,560 --> 01:31:04,280 and seeing over time, can we impact 2399 01:31:04,280 --> 01:31:05,680 those trends? So, I want to be really 2400 01:31:05,680 --> 01:31:07,840 clear about that. When I say purchasing 2401 01:31:07,840 --> 01:31:10,160 studies, I'm not talking about something 2402 01:31:10,160 --> 01:31:11,240 that we can get from Headwater or 2403 01:31:11,240 --> 01:31:12,920 whatever. There's some basic things like 2404 01:31:12,920 --> 01:31:15,600 sales tax leakage reports that we need 2405 01:31:15,600 --> 01:31:17,600 to use for public private partnerships, 2406 01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:19,000 and we need that investment data, 2407 01:31:19,000 --> 01:31:21,040 especially when it comes to bonding, 2408 01:31:21,040 --> 01:31:22,880 that are not free. We can't get those 2409 01:31:22,880 --> 01:31:23,440 free. 2410 01:31:23,440 --> 01:31:25,240 >> How do we pay to get them, then? 2411 01:31:25,240 --> 01:31:27,320 >> Science Public Finance, or Cruzen 2412 01:31:27,320 --> 01:31:29,520 Associates, or 2413 01:31:29,520 --> 01:31:33,080 they, you know, we've got 2414 01:31:33,080 --> 01:31:34,440 Sorry. What was that? 2415 01:31:34,440 --> 01:31:35,040 >> Oh, no, no. 2416 01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:36,480 >> Oh, sorry. Excuse me. 2417 01:31:36,480 --> 01:31:37,400 >> I want to jump in with something, and 2418 01:31:37,400 --> 01:31:38,520 then Aaron Scott has something to add, 2419 01:31:38,520 --> 01:31:40,480 too. So, I think, I mean, for me, on 2420 01:31:40,480 --> 01:31:41,720 that in response to the high-level 2421 01:31:41,720 --> 01:31:44,440 stuff, I do I understand that we hear 2422 01:31:44,440 --> 01:31:45,920 from residents a lot that 2423 01:31:45,920 --> 01:31:48,480 diversification is what we need. I will 2424 01:31:48,480 --> 01:31:50,720 just make like my own statement. To me, 2425 01:31:50,720 --> 01:31:52,920 it's not about 2426 01:31:52,920 --> 01:31:54,080 The ultimate goal is not 2427 01:31:54,080 --> 01:31:56,600 diversification. The ultimate goal is 2428 01:31:56,600 --> 01:31:58,240 the economic well-being of our 2429 01:31:58,240 --> 01:31:59,920 residents, right? And I think we really 2430 01:31:59,920 --> 01:32:02,080 need to as as a group like us, right? I 2431 01:32:02,080 --> 01:32:04,120 mean, I understand that as a as a office 2432 01:32:04,120 --> 01:32:06,040 holder response you know, to 2433 01:32:06,040 --> 01:32:07,880 constituents like your job is a little 2434 01:32:07,880 --> 01:32:09,840 different than ours maybe or than some 2435 01:32:09,840 --> 01:32:13,760 of ours. But to me, that's our our goal. 2436 01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:16,560 And we have to be really thoughtful and 2437 01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:19,120 helpful in coming up with the best ways 2438 01:32:19,120 --> 01:32:20,680 to get to that goal, which may include 2439 01:32:20,680 --> 01:32:22,840 some diversification, right? And may 2440 01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:26,160 include some tweaking of our visitation 2441 01:32:26,160 --> 01:32:28,720 economy so that we can improve wages 2442 01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:31,040 within it or something like that. 2443 01:32:31,040 --> 01:32:32,560 And then we have this 2444 01:32:32,560 --> 01:32:34,600 next layer of challenge, which is that 2445 01:32:34,600 --> 01:32:36,760 we may only control like a small budget 2446 01:32:36,760 --> 01:32:38,320 compared to the TRT budget, which might 2447 01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:39,720 be more appropriate place to do some of 2448 01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:40,840 that tweaking, right? So I I 2449 01:32:40,840 --> 01:32:42,480 understanding that it's very like 2450 01:32:42,480 --> 01:32:45,440 complex and everything like that. That to me I just want to say is like 2451 01:32:45,440 --> 01:32:48,400 should be our ultimate goal. I also am 2452 01:32:48,400 --> 01:32:51,520 totally on board with the idea that 2453 01:32:51,520 --> 01:32:53,240 this year 2454 01:32:53,240 --> 01:32:54,960 is about capacity building of a new 2455 01:32:54,960 --> 01:32:56,040 department. I mean, I think it's 2456 01:32:56,040 --> 01:32:57,400 something that's commission's already 2457 01:32:57,400 --> 01:32:59,160 stated through the budget. Sounds like 2458 01:32:59,160 --> 01:33:01,080 there's like some willingness around the 2459 01:33:01,080 --> 01:33:03,680 table to to support that again. 2460 01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:05,600 Um 2461 01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:08,240 I guess a question that to 2462 01:33:08,240 --> 01:33:10,880 sits next to that with me is is there 2463 01:33:10,880 --> 01:33:12,720 then 2464 01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:14,560 a desire 2465 01:33:14,560 --> 01:33:18,710 among in the commission 2466 01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:21,600 to give long-term stability to an 2467 01:33:21,600 --> 01:33:22,880 economic development department. And I 2468 01:33:22,880 --> 01:33:24,160 think Melissa was kind of asking that 2469 01:33:24,160 --> 01:33:25,640 question she was talking to me because 2470 01:33:25,640 --> 01:33:27,360 to me it's like 2471 01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:29,440 how how we do this, how we spend the 2472 01:33:29,440 --> 01:33:31,560 money now depends on whether there's 2473 01:33:31,560 --> 01:33:33,480 money coming down the road to sustain 2474 01:33:33,480 --> 01:33:35,560 something that we help build with this 2475 01:33:35,560 --> 01:33:36,880 RCG funding here. 2476 01:33:36,880 --> 01:33:38,880 >> Well, sales tax revenue is what what 2477 01:33:38,880 --> 01:33:40,920 basically funds our community, you know, 2478 01:33:40,920 --> 01:33:43,760 and so if our sales tax revenue goes up, 2479 01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:45,840 then we have 2480 01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:47,840 um the I mean, I would love to see three 2481 01:33:47,840 --> 01:33:49,120 people in the department. 2482 01:33:49,120 --> 01:33:49,680 >> Yeah. 2483 01:33:49,680 --> 01:33:51,440 >> I would love to. I think that 2484 01:33:51,440 --> 01:33:52,760 >> But can we just make sure there's one 2485 01:33:52,760 --> 01:33:54,480 next year? I mean, that that's all I I 2486 01:33:54,480 --> 01:33:56,040 mean, I I was serious like that's just 2487 01:33:56,040 --> 01:33:57,760 >> her talking she's like this 2488 01:33:57,760 --> 01:34:00,000 for somebody." And you know, it makes me 2489 01:34:00,000 --> 01:34:01,440 feel really uncomfortable because, you 2490 01:34:01,440 --> 01:34:02,640 know, it's like but which is great. We 2491 01:34:02,640 --> 01:34:04,520 need to be duplicatable for people to 2492 01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:07,200 replace us or whatever. But, yeah, I 2493 01:34:07,200 --> 01:34:08,280 would like to see our economic 2494 01:34:08,280 --> 01:34:10,600 development grow. And I do want it to 2495 01:34:10,600 --> 01:34:12,400 include public lands and everything. 2496 01:34:12,400 --> 01:34:14,400 But, you know, I want to it needs to be 2497 01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:17,360 robust. We we haven't had There's been 2498 01:34:17,360 --> 01:34:18,880 lots of changes in economic development 2499 01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:21,000 in this community and it has been mainly 2500 01:34:21,000 --> 01:34:23,520 down the road of tourism. And I think 2501 01:34:23,520 --> 01:34:26,240 that there is there's a there's a way to 2502 01:34:26,240 --> 01:34:27,600 continue the tourism. But, like you 2503 01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:29,080 said, that's that big fat budget. They 2504 01:34:29,080 --> 01:34:30,800 have a big budget. So, 2505 01:34:30,800 --> 01:34:33,000 let them budget that and and, you know, 2506 01:34:33,000 --> 01:34:34,520 and if you're interested in that, get on 2507 01:34:34,520 --> 01:34:37,080 that board. And then this board has an 2508 01:34:37,080 --> 01:34:38,640 effect an effect in a different way. And 2509 01:34:38,640 --> 01:34:41,120 I think as Melissa walk moves through 2510 01:34:41,120 --> 01:34:42,840 these this next year, she's going to 2511 01:34:42,840 --> 01:34:44,720 come back with all those to you. It's 2512 01:34:44,720 --> 01:34:45,880 not like she's going to be acting 2513 01:34:45,880 --> 01:34:47,600 independently. She's going to come back 2514 01:34:47,600 --> 01:34:49,280 and report or say, "Hey, I'm looking at 2515 01:34:49,280 --> 01:34:50,800 these." Or it'd be really great if 2516 01:34:50,800 --> 01:34:52,960 people came into meeting and said, "I 2517 01:34:52,960 --> 01:34:54,160 would be really interested in this." Or 2518 01:34:54,160 --> 01:34:56,560 just email her or Brittany or I. 2519 01:34:56,560 --> 01:34:57,160 >> Yeah. 2520 01:34:57,160 --> 01:34:59,040 >> And and say this would be super valuable 2521 01:34:59,040 --> 01:35:00,720 information. You know, Melissa and I 2522 01:35:00,720 --> 01:35:01,960 looked at the child to and I'm sorry I'm 2523 01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:03,360 talking a lot today. 2524 01:35:03,360 --> 01:35:04,880 I'm learning a lot. I'm learning a lot 2525 01:35:04,880 --> 01:35:06,480 in the last year and a half. But, you 2526 01:35:06,480 --> 01:35:07,520 know, I you know, we went through the 2527 01:35:07,520 --> 01:35:09,080 child to tomorrow plan and I went over 2528 01:35:09,080 --> 01:35:11,160 that a lot. Did you know, I I watched 2529 01:35:11,160 --> 01:35:12,600 the meetings. I went to the meetings 2530 01:35:12,600 --> 01:35:15,200 while it was being put together. I was 2531 01:35:15,200 --> 01:35:16,880 one of the community input people and I 2532 01:35:16,880 --> 01:35:18,720 was really excited to be about it. And 2533 01:35:18,720 --> 01:35:20,040 now I'm a commissioner sitting where I'm 2534 01:35:20,040 --> 01:35:21,680 at right now. It doesn't have a lot of 2535 01:35:21,680 --> 01:35:23,760 value. Like when as I read it, I'm like, 2536 01:35:23,760 --> 01:35:25,800 "This is exactly what we already know." 2537 01:35:25,800 --> 01:35:27,080 all of these things. It 2538 01:35:27,080 --> 01:35:28,800 doesn't give us a path forward. There's 2539 01:35:28,800 --> 01:35:30,640 no path forward to it. It's like, "This 2540 01:35:30,640 --> 01:35:32,640 is all the information that we all 2541 01:35:32,640 --> 01:35:34,320 know." But, there's not like a it's not 2542 01:35:34,320 --> 01:35:35,240 a plan. 2543 01:35:35,240 --> 01:35:36,040 >> agree with 2544 01:35:36,040 --> 01:35:37,320 that. I mean, we were trying to create a 2545 01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:38,200 plan 2546 01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:40,000 >> So, we knew that we knew it wasn't a 2547 01:35:40,000 --> 01:35:41,960 plan and that's what we this board was 2548 01:35:41,960 --> 01:35:44,120 trying to do is take that input into an 2549 01:35:44,120 --> 01:35:46,080 action plan. Let me just say it one 2550 01:35:46,080 --> 01:35:48,040 other way just for a second. 2551 01:35:48,040 --> 01:35:51,200 I work in this field and I am looking at 2552 01:35:51,200 --> 01:35:53,400 an RFP from Coconino County, which is 2553 01:35:53,400 --> 01:35:56,160 Flagstaff, right? I see these other 2554 01:35:56,160 --> 01:35:59,440 counties leaning in to their 2555 01:35:59,440 --> 01:36:01,720 recreation economies, not just for 2556 01:36:01,720 --> 01:36:03,840 tourism revenue, but for quality of life 2557 01:36:03,840 --> 01:36:06,240 to attract business investment, okay? 2558 01:36:06,240 --> 01:36:09,400 So, it's a it's a huge 2559 01:36:09,400 --> 01:36:12,120 piece, and every county across the West 2560 01:36:12,120 --> 01:36:14,160 is doing this right now. So, what 2561 01:36:14,160 --> 01:36:17,520 worries me is when is when our 2562 01:36:17,520 --> 01:36:19,840 leadership is like, "We don't need to do 2563 01:36:19,840 --> 01:36:22,080 anything for tourism. It's fine. We 2564 01:36:22,080 --> 01:36:24,000 don't need to fix it. We've got that. We 2565 01:36:24,000 --> 01:36:26,960 really want to do something else, something else." And 2566 01:36:26,960 --> 01:36:28,720 then I look at these other communities 2567 01:36:28,720 --> 01:36:31,920 who are like really investing in this in 2568 01:36:31,920 --> 01:36:34,360 their recreation assets and quality of 2569 01:36:34,360 --> 01:36:36,680 life and these other pieces, and I worry 2570 01:36:36,680 --> 01:36:37,920 that they're going to eat our lunch 2571 01:36:37,920 --> 01:36:39,400 because we're so busy trying to 2572 01:36:39,400 --> 01:36:42,920 diversify when I can tell you that the 2573 01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:45,640 opportunities for like a 2574 01:36:45,640 --> 01:36:47,280 uh 2575 01:36:47,280 --> 01:36:49,000 what do they call it? Um 2576 01:36:49,000 --> 01:36:51,640 light manufacturing or whatever you're 2577 01:36:51,640 --> 01:36:54,000 thinking of as everyday anywhere USA 2578 01:36:54,000 --> 01:36:57,160 jobs are not going to come to Moab. So, 2579 01:36:57,160 --> 01:36:58,760 you can throw out that word, "We need to 2580 01:36:58,760 --> 01:37:01,520 diversify." And any any citizen can say, 2581 01:37:01,520 --> 01:37:03,480 "I don't like the visitor economy. I 2582 01:37:03,480 --> 01:37:05,040 don't want to be part of that. I don't 2583 01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:07,360 It's not It doesn't touch me. Whatever." 2584 01:37:07,360 --> 01:37:09,680 It's like, "Great. How can we fix it so 2585 01:37:09,680 --> 01:37:11,760 that it does help everyone?" And try to 2586 01:37:11,760 --> 01:37:13,320 instead of trying to reinvent the wheel 2587 01:37:13,320 --> 01:37:15,040 or attract something that's really going 2588 01:37:15,040 --> 01:37:17,520 to be difficult to attract. So, that's 2589 01:37:17,520 --> 01:37:19,960 what makes me nervous about it. Like, we 2590 01:37:19,960 --> 01:37:22,520 have to And And yeah, Trails to Tomorrow 2591 01:37:22,520 --> 01:37:25,000 just said a lot of things we knew, but 2592 01:37:25,000 --> 01:37:27,200 the the point is other communities are 2593 01:37:27,200 --> 01:37:29,560 taking that type of report, the Trails 2594 01:37:29,560 --> 01:37:31,280 to Tomorrow report, and they are 2595 01:37:31,280 --> 01:37:32,720 building a plan. 2596 01:37:32,720 --> 01:37:36,480 And that plan involves all kinds of um 2597 01:37:36,480 --> 01:37:39,240 investments in quality of life for for 2598 01:37:39,240 --> 01:37:41,000 locals and tourism 2599 01:37:41,000 --> 01:37:41,840 >> That's what we want. 2600 01:37:41,840 --> 01:37:43,440 >> Well, those those things are happening 2601 01:37:43,440 --> 01:37:44,282 all over the place. 2602 01:37:44,282 --> 01:37:44,440 >> [laughter] 2603 01:37:44,440 --> 01:37:47,280 >> But when we We told like, "No, you can't 2604 01:37:47,280 --> 01:37:49,360 add the word public lands to the general 2605 01:37:49,360 --> 01:37:51,680 plan and we don't want you to to do that 2606 01:37:51,680 --> 01:37:54,360 work. It was kind of like, okay, well, 2607 01:37:54,360 --> 01:37:56,360 what are we supposed to do? And then it 2608 01:37:56,360 --> 01:37:58,960 was, do the grants, which we did. Which 2609 01:37:58,960 --> 01:38:00,880 we did really well. I feel like we made 2610 01:38:00,880 --> 01:38:02,360 that grant program really tight and 2611 01:38:02,360 --> 01:38:05,320 mostly Melissa has done that. But I just 2612 01:38:05,320 --> 01:38:06,360 so 2613 01:38:06,360 --> 01:38:08,080 you know, if you need a motion to 2614 01:38:08,080 --> 01:38:10,680 support this budget, okay. And but 2615 01:38:10,680 --> 01:38:12,520 hopefully we can you can come back and 2616 01:38:12,520 --> 01:38:14,640 tell us more details about when you're 2617 01:38:14,640 --> 01:38:16,880 going to 2618 01:38:16,880 --> 01:38:19,080 commission these reports and we can talk 2619 01:38:19,080 --> 01:38:21,080 about what those are and what those 2620 01:38:21,080 --> 01:38:22,560 mean. I mean 2621 01:38:22,560 --> 01:38:23,600 um 2622 01:38:23,600 --> 01:38:24,600 >> Let's go to Aaron. 2623 01:38:24,600 --> 01:38:26,240 >> Yeah. So 2624 01:38:26,240 --> 01:38:27,760 >> when we do these other grants that we 2625 01:38:27,760 --> 01:38:28,600 just 2626 01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:30,560 passed this past year, part of the thing 2627 01:38:30,560 --> 01:38:32,920 was we looked for accountability. Right? 2628 01:38:32,920 --> 01:38:35,000 We were like, hey, did you spend these 2629 01:38:35,000 --> 01:38:37,520 receipts and all that? And there's a 2630 01:38:37,520 --> 01:38:39,480 part of me that's like, basically we're 2631 01:38:39,480 --> 01:38:41,080 going to give the county money and the 2632 01:38:41,080 --> 01:38:42,440 county is going to have to be 2633 01:38:42,440 --> 01:38:43,800 accountable 2634 01:38:43,800 --> 01:38:46,440 for it. And whatever metric that is. And 2635 01:38:46,440 --> 01:38:49,120 I think that part of that is that we 2636 01:38:49,120 --> 01:38:50,600 review 2637 01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:52,240 like this board is supposed to be 2638 01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:54,240 responsible for reviewing those things. 2639 01:38:54,240 --> 01:38:55,720 And I think it is the bridge to the 2640 01:38:55,720 --> 01:38:57,880 public we can serve in that. Now, I know 2641 01:38:57,880 --> 01:38:58,720 we 2642 01:38:58,720 --> 01:39:01,360 advise our changed our bylaws so we only 2643 01:39:01,360 --> 01:39:04,960 deal with the RCG and RCOG, but I really 2644 01:39:04,960 --> 01:39:06,720 feel that like 2645 01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:08,360 I would like to see if we're going to be 2646 01:39:08,360 --> 01:39:10,040 spending the money 2647 01:39:10,040 --> 01:39:12,560 like, okay, yeah, do it. I kind of would 2648 01:39:12,560 --> 01:39:15,120 like to have a public process into that 2649 01:39:15,120 --> 01:39:16,600 so [snorts] we're like 2650 01:39:16,600 --> 01:39:19,560 yeah, we're we are developing this. We 2651 01:39:19,560 --> 01:39:22,840 have these plans ideas. I just feel that 2652 01:39:22,840 --> 01:39:24,960 like if we're if we're kind of behind 2653 01:39:24,960 --> 01:39:26,800 that, we should be a part of that 2654 01:39:26,800 --> 01:39:30,160 process of building that general plan 2655 01:39:30,160 --> 01:39:32,840 those ideas, implementing it. And that's 2656 01:39:32,840 --> 01:39:36,960 kind of how like I kind of feel that 2657 01:39:36,960 --> 01:39:39,760 like that would be my wish on that. 2658 01:39:39,760 --> 01:39:41,240 >> Absolutely. 2659 01:39:41,240 --> 01:39:43,160 >> That's like we give input. You know, 2660 01:39:43,160 --> 01:39:44,920 ultimately you guys have the decision, 2661 01:39:44,920 --> 01:39:47,000 but I'm like, man, I I think it's a 2662 01:39:47,000 --> 01:39:49,560 important economic development is so 2663 01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:51,360 important that like 2664 01:39:51,360 --> 01:39:53,560 there is a feedback mechanism between 2665 01:39:53,560 --> 01:39:56,080 the public, which would be us, 2666 01:39:56,080 --> 01:39:58,760 and and the county and the elected on 2667 01:39:58,760 --> 01:40:00,960 that. 2668 01:40:00,960 --> 01:40:02,280 >> Yep, that's why you guys are here to get 2669 01:40:02,280 --> 01:40:03,720 feedback. I mean, that's what happens 2670 01:40:03,720 --> 01:40:05,480 every single meeting. So, I think you're 2671 01:40:05,480 --> 01:40:07,600 right on track. But, I mean, the general 2672 01:40:07,600 --> 01:40:12,160 plan's not going to be put in this group. It's 2673 01:40:12,160 --> 01:40:14,200 going to be outsourced. And it will have 2674 01:40:14,200 --> 01:40:16,120 public feedback, but um I don't even 2675 01:40:16,120 --> 01:40:17,480 know where we're get I mean, but it's 2676 01:40:17,480 --> 01:40:19,480 moving along, but we the land use code 2677 01:40:19,480 --> 01:40:21,280 obviously takes precedence over the 2678 01:40:21,280 --> 01:40:22,440 general plan. I mean, they're all big 2679 01:40:22,440 --> 01:40:23,800 projects, so it's not like it's just 2680 01:40:23,800 --> 01:40:26,240 going to end just move along. 2681 01:40:26,240 --> 01:40:27,840 >> wouldn't for a minute think that you 2682 01:40:27,840 --> 01:40:28,320 guys would 2683 01:40:28,320 --> 01:40:29,640 >> in planning and zoning and to 2684 01:40:29,640 --> 01:40:31,720 >> What I don't want is something made in a 2685 01:40:31,720 --> 01:40:33,840 vacuum without a lot of like public 2686 01:40:33,840 --> 01:40:35,120 input. I think it's good 2687 01:40:35,120 --> 01:40:37,320 >> plan has a legislative process that 2688 01:40:37,320 --> 01:40:38,880 demands public hearing and input. 2689 01:40:38,880 --> 01:40:39,960 >> I'm just talking about the general plan. 2690 01:40:39,960 --> 01:40:41,720 I'm talking about like, "Hey, you know, 2691 01:40:41,720 --> 01:40:44,200 we we're thinking about this this 2692 01:40:44,200 --> 01:40:47,360 study." And And Ashley's like, "Oh, 2693 01:40:47,360 --> 01:40:49,040 yeah, these guys do it already." Or 2694 01:40:49,040 --> 01:40:50,400 something. There's my institutional 2695 01:40:50,400 --> 01:40:52,160 knowledge. And you're like, "Yeah, look 2696 01:40:52,160 --> 01:40:53,680 at that Trail to Tomorrow. You guys were 2697 01:40:53,680 --> 01:40:55,440 already like, yeah, it didn't really do 2698 01:40:55,440 --> 01:40:57,240 anything." I kind of missed that when I 2699 01:40:57,240 --> 01:40:59,480 read the whole thing, but um yeah. 2700 01:40:59,480 --> 01:41:01,520 >> No, it just it just it gave a lot of 2701 01:41:01,520 --> 01:41:03,560 information. It gave a picture of what 2702 01:41:03,560 --> 01:41:05,840 we have going on. It didn't It didn't 2703 01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:07,560 dictate. It didn't translate that 2704 01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:10,320 picture into a plan. It was a snapshot 2705 01:41:10,320 --> 01:41:13,000 of what what is our status and what we 2706 01:41:13,000 --> 01:41:14,920 have going on. And the question is, what 2707 01:41:14,920 --> 01:41:16,520 are we going to do about it? What what 2708 01:41:16,520 --> 01:41:18,360 are we going to invest in of that's 2709 01:41:18,360 --> 01:41:20,160 going to make it better? Or which pieces 2710 01:41:20,160 --> 01:41:23,560 are missing from it? And there's 2711 01:41:23,560 --> 01:41:24,320 whatever. I mean, 2712 01:41:24,320 --> 01:41:25,080 >> It's a process. 2713 01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:25,880 >> What are we 2714 01:41:25,880 --> 01:41:26,360 >> So, I 2715 01:41:26,360 --> 01:41:28,040 >> What I mean in terms of sustainability 2716 01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:30,760 for any institution is having that long 2717 01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:32,800 time, you know, you we can be like, 2718 01:41:32,800 --> 01:41:34,720 "Look, this has been always been feed 2719 01:41:34,720 --> 01:41:37,240 Oh, there's a new commission. No one 2720 01:41:37,240 --> 01:41:39,000 remembered what they were doing. I don't 2721 01:41:39,000 --> 01:41:40,400 You know what I'm saying? I'm just kind 2722 01:41:40,400 --> 01:41:41,200 of like 2723 01:41:41,200 --> 01:41:43,160 >> If we're trying to build an institution, 2724 01:41:43,160 --> 01:41:44,280 it helps to have 2725 01:41:44,280 --> 01:41:46,240 >> No, public feedback is a part of how you 2726 01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:48,280 build longevity to policy, right? If you 2727 01:41:48,280 --> 01:41:50,280 don't include other stakeholder groups 2728 01:41:50,280 --> 01:41:53,240 outside of government, policy flips and flips and flips with the 2729 01:41:53,240 --> 01:41:54,920 policy makers. If you include other 2730 01:41:54,920 --> 01:41:56,200 stakeholder groups, they provide 2731 01:41:56,200 --> 01:41:58,400 momentum that continues on policies 2732 01:41:58,400 --> 01:41:59,920 across administrations. 2733 01:41:59,920 --> 01:42:02,480 >> Exactly. That's what I want with this. 2734 01:42:02,480 --> 01:42:04,600 >> Um what my 2735 01:42:04,600 --> 01:42:06,680 I mean, I was thinking about this in in 2736 01:42:06,680 --> 01:42:09,600 a recommendation. I mean, I I would 2737 01:42:09,600 --> 01:42:11,840 personally put forward a recommendation 2738 01:42:11,840 --> 01:42:13,840 to support institution building this 2739 01:42:13,840 --> 01:42:15,920 year, right? As we as has already been 2740 01:42:15,920 --> 01:42:17,960 budgeted, and recognize that that's 2741 01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:19,800 really important for Grand County at 2742 01:42:19,800 --> 01:42:22,720 this time of transition from 2743 01:42:22,720 --> 01:42:24,360 uh an economic development department 2744 01:42:24,360 --> 01:42:26,040 that was wrapped up in the tourism 2745 01:42:26,040 --> 01:42:27,520 promotion department to having a 2746 01:42:27,520 --> 01:42:28,920 free-standing economic development 2747 01:42:28,920 --> 01:42:31,600 department that does more than just 2748 01:42:31,600 --> 01:42:33,040 tourism promotion. I think that's a 2749 01:42:33,040 --> 01:42:35,280 really worthwhile thing to invest money 2750 01:42:35,280 --> 01:42:36,760 in. Um 2751 01:42:36,760 --> 01:42:38,800 I would also attach to that 2752 01:42:38,800 --> 01:42:40,520 recommendation 2753 01:42:40,520 --> 01:42:43,640 uh a recommendation for the county 2754 01:42:43,640 --> 01:42:46,760 commission to 2755 01:42:46,760 --> 01:42:50,000 not budget ahead of a recommendation 2756 01:42:50,000 --> 01:42:51,280 from this 2757 01:42:51,280 --> 01:42:52,600 commission. I would suggest to the 2758 01:42:52,600 --> 01:42:55,240 county commission that we'll get better 2759 01:42:55,240 --> 01:42:58,080 results with RCG in the future. I 2760 01:42:58,080 --> 01:43:01,520 Recognizing that 2026 with is an outlier 2761 01:43:01,520 --> 01:43:03,720 year in some ways, right? But that in 2762 01:43:03,720 --> 01:43:05,000 the future 2763 01:43:05,000 --> 01:43:07,320 the process should go from a 2764 01:43:07,320 --> 01:43:08,720 recommendation from EAB then 2765 01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:10,320 consideration by the commission and then 2766 01:43:10,320 --> 01:43:12,000 whatever direction the commission wants 2767 01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:14,080 to take. And that, you know, hope that 2768 01:43:14,080 --> 01:43:16,720 we don't get in a cycle of 2769 01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:19,280 the budget cycle 2770 01:43:19,280 --> 01:43:23,200 taking control of RCG outside of the 2771 01:43:23,200 --> 01:43:25,680 process of this committee. Or or if the 2772 01:43:25,680 --> 01:43:27,480 budget cycle if it needs to go in there, 2773 01:43:27,480 --> 01:43:31,040 then we need to be doing our work 2774 01:43:31,040 --> 01:43:32,200 you know, a year ahead of time 2775 01:43:32,200 --> 01:43:34,240 basically, so that it can then that 2776 01:43:34,240 --> 01:43:35,840 we're the input to the budget cycle. 2777 01:43:35,840 --> 01:43:38,080 But, whatever it is, like I think that 2778 01:43:38,080 --> 01:43:41,200 this needs to be I think that this 2779 01:43:41,200 --> 01:43:42,760 would be best for the community if this 2780 01:43:42,760 --> 01:43:44,840 was an outlier year in terms of process. 2781 01:43:44,840 --> 01:43:46,080 And I think it might be helpful for us. 2782 01:43:46,080 --> 01:43:48,200 I don't know, I mean, obviously, I know 2783 01:43:48,200 --> 01:43:50,680 that you understand the ins and outs of 2784 01:43:50,680 --> 01:43:52,080 this. I don't know that every 2785 01:43:52,080 --> 01:43:54,200 commissioner has thought about this in 2786 01:43:54,200 --> 01:43:56,680 such detail. I believe that EAB links 2787 01:43:56,680 --> 01:43:58,640 into the budget cycle, etc. And so, I'd 2788 01:43:58,640 --> 01:43:59,840 like to 2789 01:43:59,840 --> 01:44:01,040 you know, I think this is an opportunity 2790 01:44:01,040 --> 01:44:02,640 we can take to have to make a statement 2791 01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:04,080 to the rest of the commissioners 2792 01:44:04,080 --> 01:44:06,040 >> That's when we start our budget process, 2793 01:44:06,040 --> 01:44:08,120 you know. We start our budget process 2794 01:44:08,120 --> 01:44:10,000 like in 2 months exactly for next year. 2795 01:44:10,000 --> 01:44:11,240 So, you guys need to start thinking 2796 01:44:11,240 --> 01:44:12,680 about what you would like to put forth. 2797 01:44:12,680 --> 01:44:14,360 But, I think that that's great to I 2798 01:44:14,360 --> 01:44:16,200 think that's I think that's a great 2799 01:44:16,200 --> 01:44:19,160 recommendation to the commission to to 2800 01:44:19,160 --> 01:44:20,920 sort of that way and that way it does 2801 01:44:20,920 --> 01:44:23,640 give you guys time next year to figure 2802 01:44:23,640 --> 01:44:25,560 out what you're doing with that RCG or 2803 01:44:25,560 --> 01:44:27,480 actually gives a you know, you and 2804 01:44:27,480 --> 01:44:29,840 Melissa working together the plans after 2805 01:44:29,840 --> 01:44:31,680 you compile this information to go for 2806 01:44:31,680 --> 01:44:33,040 what would be really beneficial to our 2807 01:44:33,040 --> 01:44:34,080 community next year. 2808 01:44:34,080 --> 01:44:35,040 >> Totally. 2809 01:44:35,040 --> 01:44:36,040 >> You know, and just one more comment on 2810 01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:37,480 the general plan. So, the general plan 2811 01:44:37,480 --> 01:44:39,440 is all based on the fact that we signed 2812 01:44:39,440 --> 01:44:41,000 a strategic plan and we have no 2813 01:44:41,000 --> 01:44:42,680 strategic plan. So, you have this whole 2814 01:44:42,680 --> 01:44:44,160 general plan that's written saying that 2815 01:44:44,160 --> 01:44:46,320 we we have a strategic plan and we 2816 01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:48,440 don't. Very it's very interesting. When 2817 01:44:48,440 --> 01:44:49,400 you read that whole thing, you're just 2818 01:44:49,400 --> 01:44:50,880 like, "Whoa." When she's telling me that 2819 01:44:50,880 --> 01:44:52,760 we have 127 things that we're supposed 2820 01:44:52,760 --> 01:44:54,000 to be reporting on and I read it and I'm 2821 01:44:54,000 --> 01:44:55,000 just like 2822 01:44:55,000 --> 01:44:57,200 "Holy crap." I mean, most people 2823 01:44:57,200 --> 01:44:58,600 probably never read the general plan and 2824 01:44:58,600 --> 01:45:01,680 don't know what's in there. And and 2825 01:45:01,680 --> 01:45:03,240 it's going to take a lot to change it. 2826 01:45:03,240 --> 01:45:04,800 It's not going to just take this board 2827 01:45:04,800 --> 01:45:06,160 >> Oh, no, I'm not saying this board. 2828 01:45:06,160 --> 01:45:07,800 >> that we're working on. But, but it is 2829 01:45:07,800 --> 01:45:09,520 it's very interesting. So, I mean, I 2830 01:45:09,520 --> 01:45:11,040 challenge you all to read it. It's such 2831 01:45:11,040 --> 01:45:12,360 fun reading. 2832 01:45:12,360 --> 01:45:13,080 Um 2833 01:45:13,080 --> 01:45:13,760 >> So, 2834 01:45:13,760 --> 01:45:14,120 >> plan 2835 01:45:14,120 --> 01:45:15,240 >> I I just 2836 01:45:15,240 --> 01:45:16,720 I guess what I'm getting at now, ladies, 2837 01:45:16,720 --> 01:45:19,200 like I just feel like 2838 01:45:19,200 --> 01:45:20,480 you know, 2839 01:45:20,480 --> 01:45:23,760 there's a like something would be made 2840 01:45:23,760 --> 01:45:25,200 like I'm not saying the general plan, 2841 01:45:25,200 --> 01:45:27,360 but like I I don't know. I just feel 2842 01:45:27,360 --> 01:45:27,600 >> I want 2843 01:45:27,600 --> 01:45:28,480 >> a strategic plan. 2844 01:45:28,480 --> 01:45:28,800 >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. 2845 01:45:28,800 --> 01:45:30,880 >> I want a strategic plan. Yes, I do. That 2846 01:45:30,880 --> 01:45:32,280 you know, that's what Maybe that would 2847 01:45:32,280 --> 01:45:33,680 be something that we work on, but we can 2848 01:45:33,680 --> 01:45:34,960 barely get through these meetings in 2 2849 01:45:34,960 --> 01:45:36,960 hours and talk, you know, so 2850 01:45:36,960 --> 01:45:38,920 >> We just canceled the last two meetings, 2851 01:45:38,920 --> 01:45:39,320 so 2852 01:45:39,320 --> 01:45:40,880 >> We didn't cancel two. So, maybe we don't 2853 01:45:40,880 --> 01:45:42,280 cancel anymore. And you know, I mean, we 2854 01:45:42,280 --> 01:45:42,920 mentioned that 2855 01:45:42,920 --> 01:45:45,320 >> This board could make a draft strategic 2856 01:45:45,320 --> 01:45:46,200 plan. 2857 01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:47,960 >> Yeah. Well, maybe. I'm not so sure that 2858 01:45:47,960 --> 01:45:49,960 we have the capacity to like without 2859 01:45:49,960 --> 01:45:51,920 staff that be playing a huge role in 2860 01:45:51,920 --> 01:45:52,200 that. 2861 01:45:52,200 --> 01:45:53,440 >> Well, you can 2862 01:45:53,440 --> 01:45:54,360 >> That would be 2863 01:45:54,360 --> 01:45:56,160 We can do that. 2864 01:45:56,160 --> 01:45:58,520 >> So, yes, I agree. 2865 01:45:58,520 --> 01:46:00,840 >> You can make a general 2866 01:46:00,840 --> 01:46:02,120 >> I just have a 2867 01:46:02,120 --> 01:46:04,240 random questions as I've been listening. 2868 01:46:04,240 --> 01:46:04,920 Um, 2869 01:46:04,920 --> 01:46:06,840 cuz kind of on to your point, so 2870 01:46:06,840 --> 01:46:10,040 thinking future and not saying wanting 2871 01:46:10,040 --> 01:46:12,880 to do it for this one, but if we were to 2872 01:46:12,880 --> 01:46:14,600 say like this is how we wanted to fund 2873 01:46:14,600 --> 01:46:17,040 that budget knowing it goes into effect 2874 01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:20,990 July 1st, like 2875 01:46:21,000 --> 01:46:23,240 especially this year, what is the 2876 01:46:23,240 --> 01:46:25,000 deadline for that? 2877 01:46:25,000 --> 01:46:26,320 For saying this is how the money is 2878 01:46:26,320 --> 01:46:26,640 going to be 2879 01:46:26,640 --> 01:46:27,920 >> Well, this year the deadline for the 2880 01:46:27,920 --> 01:46:31,320 application for RCG is the August 1st, I 2881 01:46:31,320 --> 01:46:33,560 think. It's the end of our 2882 01:46:33,560 --> 01:46:35,280 Wait, am I saying that right? 2883 01:46:35,280 --> 01:46:37,680 Um, I had it up here. I have it right 2884 01:46:37,680 --> 01:46:40,280 here. Um, opens July 1st, closes 2885 01:46:40,280 --> 01:46:42,440 September 1st. So, that mean What that 2886 01:46:42,440 --> 01:46:43,680 means that we have to work back a little 2887 01:46:43,680 --> 01:46:45,160 bit from that because the commission 2888 01:46:45,160 --> 01:46:46,920 needs to act on it 2889 01:46:46,920 --> 01:46:49,560 before it can be submitted. And so, they 2890 01:46:49,560 --> 01:46:51,720 need to take care of it in a meeting at 2891 01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:53,920 some time in August. So, 2892 01:46:53,920 --> 01:46:56,280 really our 2893 01:46:56,280 --> 01:46:58,480 we if we want to make any recommendation 2894 01:46:58,480 --> 01:47:01,040 that gets acted upon, it needs to come 2895 01:47:01,040 --> 01:47:03,320 by our next meeting at the very latest, 2896 01:47:03,320 --> 01:47:05,200 right? By our July meeting at the very 2897 01:47:05,200 --> 01:47:06,520 latest. 2898 01:47:06,520 --> 01:47:08,040 >> It has 2899 01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:08,880 Maybe. 2900 01:47:08,880 --> 01:47:10,480 >> You're saying is that Is that giving 2901 01:47:10,480 --> 01:47:11,440 enough time even? 2902 01:47:11,440 --> 01:47:12,960 >> No, because 2903 01:47:12,960 --> 01:47:15,080 as we're backing it up, 2904 01:47:15,080 --> 01:47:18,640 the close date is July 30th, yeah? 2905 01:47:18,640 --> 01:47:19,280 And we have to 2906 01:47:19,280 --> 01:47:22,160 >> September 1st. like 1st. Rural County 2907 01:47:22,160 --> 01:47:24,400 grant closes September 1st. 2908 01:47:24,400 --> 01:47:26,200 >> The application. 2909 01:47:26,200 --> 01:47:27,920 We're putting it 2910 01:47:27,920 --> 01:47:28,480 August 1st. 2911 01:47:28,480 --> 01:47:30,240 >> I panicked for a minute because I was 2912 01:47:30,240 --> 01:47:32,240 confusing the reporting with the date. 2913 01:47:32,240 --> 01:47:33,320 >> Yeah, but the sooner you get it in, the 2914 01:47:33,320 --> 01:47:34,680 sooner you get your money. 2915 01:47:34,680 --> 01:47:36,240 >> Right, it's better for us to go early, 2916 01:47:36,240 --> 01:47:39,400 of course, but but that is the deadline. 2917 01:47:39,400 --> 01:47:41,520 >> So, it's 2918 01:47:41,520 --> 01:47:43,720 it keeps coming back to we need a motion 2919 01:47:43,720 --> 01:47:45,160 to support this budget. 2920 01:47:45,160 --> 01:47:48,840 >> Well, I want to just say I'm not sure um 2921 01:47:48,840 --> 01:47:50,760 I'm open to people's take on this, but 2922 01:47:50,760 --> 01:47:52,640 this was set up I I think it should have 2923 01:47:52,640 --> 01:47:54,200 been an action item. It was set up as a 2924 01:47:54,200 --> 01:47:56,320 discussion item for this meeting. 2925 01:47:56,320 --> 01:47:56,880 >> So, we should just 2926 01:47:56,880 --> 01:47:58,360 >> I'm not sure. I think we really need to 2927 01:47:58,360 --> 01:47:59,840 just wait till the next meeting to vote 2928 01:47:59,840 --> 01:48:00,960 on it. 2929 01:48:00,960 --> 01:48:02,320 needs to be set as an action item for 2930 01:48:02,320 --> 01:48:04,160 next meeting. 2931 01:48:04,160 --> 01:48:05,880 >> But, that won't cause any problems? 2932 01:48:05,880 --> 01:48:08,360 >> Well, I think because the calendar is 2933 01:48:08,360 --> 01:48:10,520 September 1st, I mean it's a little bit 2934 01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:13,040 tightish, but it it's feasible. 2935 01:48:13,040 --> 01:48:14,440 >> I mean, the least we can do is support 2936 01:48:14,440 --> 01:48:16,120 the license problems. 2937 01:48:16,120 --> 01:48:18,329 >> She needs a new stapler. 2938 01:48:18,329 --> 01:48:21,350 >> [laughter] 2939 01:48:21,360 --> 01:48:23,200 » She needs to go to the trainings I sent 2940 01:48:23,200 --> 01:48:26,160 her that she needs to go to. 2941 01:48:26,160 --> 01:48:27,600 >> All right. 2942 01:48:27,600 --> 01:48:28,880 >> I mean, I think that 2943 01:48:28,880 --> 01:48:30,720 the the reality is is that right now 2944 01:48:30,720 --> 01:48:33,440 outside of the RCG, Melissa's operating 2945 01:48:33,440 --> 01:48:35,040 a department with no budget. I mean, 2946 01:48:35,040 --> 01:48:37,600 it's like we, you know, if we don't if 2947 01:48:37,600 --> 01:48:39,120 we don't support her with this RCG 2948 01:48:39,120 --> 01:48:41,440 funding for this year, then we're asking 2949 01:48:41,440 --> 01:48:43,600 her to accomplish something without 2950 01:48:43,600 --> 01:48:45,680 anything. That's very hard to do. 2951 01:48:45,680 --> 01:48:47,920 >> I agree. So, okay, we're just going to 2952 01:48:47,920 --> 01:48:49,040 Sorry, go ahead. 2953 01:48:49,040 --> 01:48:50,680 >> I just want to say we'll reimburse you 2954 01:48:50,680 --> 01:48:52,760 for what you've paid out of pocket. 2955 01:48:52,760 --> 01:48:55,120 >> Yeah, but I really like what I'm doing. 2956 01:48:55,120 --> 01:48:56,480 I love what I'm doing. 2957 01:48:56,480 --> 01:48:57,880 >> And the thing is she's worth way more 2958 01:48:57,880 --> 01:48:59,560 than what she's getting. For example, 2959 01:48:59,560 --> 01:49:01,800 you know, like a dashboard. So, a 2960 01:49:01,800 --> 01:49:04,040 dashboard's like $10,000. I mean, we the 2961 01:49:04,040 --> 01:49:08,160 county gave the housing dash $10,000 to 2962 01:49:08,160 --> 01:49:10,240 create a dashboard. Melissa created the 2963 01:49:10,240 --> 01:49:12,440 dashboard. The housing 2964 01:49:12,440 --> 01:49:14,640 still has the $10,000, but Melissa 2965 01:49:14,640 --> 01:49:16,760 created it. So, you know, 2966 01:49:16,760 --> 01:49:18,200 that's the thing is like 2967 01:49:18,200 --> 01:49:21,680 the value that she has is way more than 2968 01:49:21,680 --> 01:49:22,560 what we're paying her. 2969 01:49:22,560 --> 01:49:23,040 >> Yeah. 2970 01:49:23,040 --> 01:49:24,760 >> And what she's going to spend the money 2971 01:49:24,760 --> 01:49:26,280 on is going to be valuable as well. And 2972 01:49:26,280 --> 01:49:27,400 she's going to bring in portals to you 2973 01:49:27,400 --> 01:49:28,760 guys. You're going to know what the 2974 01:49:28,760 --> 01:49:30,000 money's being spent on. And it's not 2975 01:49:30,000 --> 01:49:31,680 going to be on just generic reporting 2976 01:49:31,680 --> 01:49:34,360 that is not valuable. You know, 2977 01:49:34,360 --> 01:49:36,600 she's a she'll get the value out of it. 2978 01:49:36,600 --> 01:49:37,880 Now, if we have somebody else in the 2979 01:49:37,880 --> 01:49:39,480 position, that might not be the case. 2980 01:49:39,480 --> 01:49:41,080 But right now, we have a really really 2981 01:49:41,080 --> 01:49:43,240 amazing staff, and she can do a lot with 2982 01:49:43,240 --> 01:49:44,920 a small budget. And I appreciate you 2983 01:49:44,920 --> 01:49:47,120 guys being willing to do be a capacity 2984 01:49:47,120 --> 01:49:49,280 building year and come forward with 2985 01:49:49,280 --> 01:49:51,800 those ideas for the future of what you 2986 01:49:51,800 --> 01:49:53,240 think you want them, but we still have 2987 01:49:53,240 --> 01:49:55,560 the RCOG is going to come next. 2988 01:49:55,560 --> 01:49:56,880 >> So, let's can we turn to that real 2989 01:49:56,880 --> 01:49:58,920 quick? Just We we only have 15 minutes 2990 01:49:58,920 --> 01:50:00,080 left, and I just wanted to we just 2991 01:50:00,080 --> 01:50:03,040 wanted to tee up some RCOG stuff because 2992 01:50:03,040 --> 01:50:04,760 we do need to be getting the ball 2993 01:50:04,760 --> 01:50:06,880 rolling on that. Um 2994 01:50:06,880 --> 01:50:09,480 and since we can't act on RCG, so we'll 2995 01:50:09,480 --> 01:50:11,000 put this this conversation will come 2996 01:50:11,000 --> 01:50:12,960 back up the next meeting, and we'll it 2997 01:50:12,960 --> 01:50:14,920 will require a vote. 2998 01:50:14,920 --> 01:50:17,000 >> What's up? Was there something Is there 2999 01:50:17,000 --> 01:50:17,960 something I'm supposed to share for the 3000 01:50:17,960 --> 01:50:18,920 RCOG? 3001 01:50:18,920 --> 01:50:20,480 >> Okay. 3002 01:50:20,480 --> 01:50:22,680 >> So, yeah, what we talked about at our 3003 01:50:22,680 --> 01:50:24,800 last meeting, Melissa mentioned that she 3004 01:50:24,800 --> 01:50:26,800 had some ideas swirling on what 3005 01:50:26,800 --> 01:50:28,760 potential RCGs would be. So, we wanted 3006 01:50:28,760 --> 01:50:30,400 to tee that up with just a short 3007 01:50:30,400 --> 01:50:32,480 conversation now so that we can start 3008 01:50:32,480 --> 01:50:33,680 getting thinking about what needs to 3009 01:50:33,680 --> 01:50:37,760 happen to for this board to, you know, 3010 01:50:37,760 --> 01:50:39,480 put forward a recommendation within the 3011 01:50:39,480 --> 01:50:42,160 next 2 months, basically, 3012 01:50:42,160 --> 01:50:44,320 on an RCOG. And if there's other things 3013 01:50:44,320 --> 01:50:45,760 that we want to bring to the table, 3014 01:50:45,760 --> 01:50:48,320 etc., etc. So, with that, let me pass it 3015 01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:49,600 back to you to get that conversation 3016 01:50:49,600 --> 01:50:50,960 started. 3017 01:50:50,960 --> 01:50:52,800 >> Okay. So, 3018 01:50:52,800 --> 01:50:56,200 uh this is just general conversation. 3019 01:50:56,200 --> 01:50:57,800 All the time being went into the 3020 01:50:57,800 --> 01:51:00,360 reporting and the other stuff. So, we 3021 01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:01,720 just don't have a lot of things for 3022 01:51:01,720 --> 01:51:04,400 people to look at. But in general, as we 3023 01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:07,360 start looking at industry and industry 3024 01:51:07,360 --> 01:51:09,440 clusters, you know, to what Ashley was 3025 01:51:09,440 --> 01:51:11,960 saying, there is no part of me with an 3026 01:51:11,960 --> 01:51:14,680 economic hat on that says, "You know 3027 01:51:14,680 --> 01:51:16,240 what I really think that we need to do 3028 01:51:16,240 --> 01:51:18,760 is build industrial property and put in 3029 01:51:18,760 --> 01:51:20,840 infrastructure so that we can 3030 01:51:20,840 --> 01:51:23,000 accommodate light manufacturing." I feel 3031 01:51:23,000 --> 01:51:25,840 like we are regionally isolated, being 3032 01:51:25,840 --> 01:51:28,640 realistic about who we are and where we 3033 01:51:28,640 --> 01:51:31,160 are and what really plays well for this 3034 01:51:31,160 --> 01:51:33,040 community. 3035 01:51:33,040 --> 01:51:35,640 It is unique to our area. We're not the 3036 01:51:35,640 --> 01:51:37,200 rare bird that I think sometimes we 3037 01:51:37,200 --> 01:51:39,440 would like to believe, 3038 01:51:39,440 --> 01:51:42,120 but we are absolutely unique. So, as we 3039 01:51:42,120 --> 01:51:43,720 look at, you know, where do we double 3040 01:51:43,720 --> 01:51:45,080 down? Where can we place these 3041 01:51:45,080 --> 01:51:47,080 investments? Yeah, the assets and the 3042 01:51:47,080 --> 01:51:48,920 resources that you have, you don't get 3043 01:51:48,920 --> 01:51:51,120 to go out and invent new ones 3044 01:51:51,120 --> 01:51:53,040 just because we want to be able to 3045 01:51:53,040 --> 01:51:56,080 create a diversification strategy. 3046 01:51:56,080 --> 01:51:58,040 So, when I think about it, I think about 3047 01:51:58,040 --> 01:51:59,640 it less in terms of diversification and 3048 01:51:59,640 --> 01:52:01,680 more in terms of resiliency. 3049 01:52:01,680 --> 01:52:03,440 So, 3050 01:52:03,440 --> 01:52:05,800 we need to be more resilient by 3051 01:52:05,800 --> 01:52:07,720 spreading out all of the eggs, and it 3052 01:52:07,720 --> 01:52:09,000 doesn't mean that we need to go out and 3053 01:52:09,000 --> 01:52:10,600 reinvent three different baskets that 3054 01:52:10,600 --> 01:52:12,560 aren't necessarily a fit. Means that we 3055 01:52:12,560 --> 01:52:14,480 have to work with what we have. 3056 01:52:14,480 --> 01:52:16,480 So, in meeting with Commissioner 3057 01:52:16,480 --> 01:52:18,400 McCandless and Jen Staley at the 3058 01:52:18,400 --> 01:52:21,120 hospital, in looking at the last 3059 01:52:21,120 --> 01:52:22,960 $250,000 3060 01:52:22,960 --> 01:52:24,920 reports that we commissioned for an 3061 01:52:24,920 --> 01:52:26,880 economic development strategy and plan 3062 01:52:26,880 --> 01:52:29,240 that did get adopted, 3063 01:52:29,240 --> 01:52:31,400 we know that health care and wellness 3064 01:52:31,400 --> 01:52:34,600 have that adjacency to tourism and 3065 01:52:34,600 --> 01:52:36,200 really leverage a lot of the same 3066 01:52:36,200 --> 01:52:39,000 assets, which are Listen, this is a 3067 01:52:39,000 --> 01:52:41,160 really beautiful place. If we double 3068 01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:43,720 down on wellness within our community 3069 01:52:43,720 --> 01:52:45,600 and what we have to offer and how that 3070 01:52:45,600 --> 01:52:48,200 this is an outdoor recreation 3071 01:52:48,200 --> 01:52:50,560 community, what are some of the assets 3072 01:52:50,560 --> 01:52:52,120 that we have that are unique to us? One 3073 01:52:52,120 --> 01:52:53,400 of the assets that we have that are 3074 01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:55,440 absolutely unique to us is we have a 3075 01:52:55,440 --> 01:52:57,560 level four trauma center. Other rural 3076 01:52:57,560 --> 01:52:59,960 communities do not have that. So, to be 3077 01:52:59,960 --> 01:53:02,040 able to have surgical suites, that's not 3078 01:53:02,040 --> 01:53:03,440 something that you're going to find in 3079 01:53:03,440 --> 01:53:05,640 most rural communities. 3080 01:53:05,640 --> 01:53:08,480 So, when we look at clusters, 3081 01:53:08,480 --> 01:53:10,760 being able to double down on healthcare 3082 01:53:10,760 --> 01:53:13,440 and wellness is an industry cluster, and 3083 01:53:13,440 --> 01:53:15,240 seeing if we can't start to measure and 3084 01:53:15,240 --> 01:53:18,000 get some results, and try some things, 3085 01:53:18,000 --> 01:53:20,800 and tweak some things, and see how those 3086 01:53:20,800 --> 01:53:23,160 come out. Healthcare really feels like a 3087 01:53:23,160 --> 01:53:26,360 good a good industry for us. 3088 01:53:26,360 --> 01:53:29,200 In talking with the hospital, she is 3089 01:53:29,200 --> 01:53:31,600 really working to recruit an orthopedics 3090 01:53:31,600 --> 01:53:34,600 practice. So, some kind of a world-class 3091 01:53:34,600 --> 01:53:37,600 orthopedics practice where, you know, we 3092 01:53:37,600 --> 01:53:39,720 can have destination 3093 01:53:39,720 --> 01:53:42,240 things like that are adjacent to that 3094 01:53:42,240 --> 01:53:44,040 outside of an orthopedic practice, for 3095 01:53:44,040 --> 01:53:46,880 example, could be elective surgery. This 3096 01:53:46,880 --> 01:53:48,480 could also be a place where we could use 3097 01:53:48,480 --> 01:53:50,480 those surgical suites and have some 3098 01:53:50,480 --> 01:53:52,960 types of recovery centers. 3099 01:53:52,960 --> 01:53:54,000 The other things that could be 3100 01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:55,920 interesting around that are what kind of 3101 01:53:55,920 --> 01:53:58,320 physical therapy can we have? So, would, 3102 01:53:58,320 --> 01:54:01,480 for example, the TOSH organization in 3103 01:54:01,480 --> 01:54:04,160 along the Wasatch Front be interested in 3104 01:54:04,160 --> 01:54:05,760 having some sort of a destination 3105 01:54:05,760 --> 01:54:10,000 practice here where the miles of 3106 01:54:10,000 --> 01:54:11,560 paved trails that we have could be 3107 01:54:11,560 --> 01:54:14,200 incorporated into physical therapy 3108 01:54:14,200 --> 01:54:15,440 practice. 3109 01:54:15,440 --> 01:54:17,200 So, that's one side of things. As we 3110 01:54:17,200 --> 01:54:19,280 look at the economic mobility part of 3111 01:54:19,280 --> 01:54:20,600 things, one of the biggest challenges 3112 01:54:20,600 --> 01:54:22,680 for economic mobility that's hitting 3113 01:54:22,680 --> 01:54:25,680 Grand County really hard is that if you 3114 01:54:25,680 --> 01:54:28,800 are a transplant from outside, 3115 01:54:28,800 --> 01:54:32,200 you are increasingly making a higher 3116 01:54:32,200 --> 01:54:34,960 income and having economic mobility. If 3117 01:54:34,960 --> 01:54:37,520 you are a person who lives here, has 3118 01:54:37,520 --> 01:54:39,560 resided here long-term, or were born 3119 01:54:39,560 --> 01:54:40,800 here, 3120 01:54:40,800 --> 01:54:44,560 your chances are pretty abysmal. So, how 3121 01:54:44,560 --> 01:54:46,080 do we say we're going to cultivate 3122 01:54:46,080 --> 01:54:49,760 workforce or create opportunities for 3123 01:54:49,760 --> 01:54:53,200 people who are living here currently 3124 01:54:53,200 --> 01:54:54,520 that would map to those types of 3125 01:54:54,520 --> 01:54:57,520 opportunities that come in. So, one of 3126 01:54:57,520 --> 01:54:59,240 the things that we would be really 3127 01:54:59,240 --> 01:55:01,160 interested in trying 3128 01:55:01,160 --> 01:55:04,440 is doubling down and partnering with EDC 3129 01:55:04,440 --> 01:55:07,480 Utah and doing a lot of work around 3130 01:55:07,480 --> 01:55:09,440 crafting a profile for Grand County that 3131 01:55:09,440 --> 01:55:11,760 says, if you are doing rural 3132 01:55:11,760 --> 01:55:14,200 healthcare research, if you are doing 3133 01:55:14,200 --> 01:55:17,400 rural aging research, if you are 3134 01:55:17,400 --> 01:55:20,200 interested in destination or the Peds, 3135 01:55:20,200 --> 01:55:22,640 or elective surgeries, or any of these 3136 01:55:22,640 --> 01:55:24,200 types of things, 3137 01:55:24,200 --> 01:55:26,160 we have an amazing airport with daily 3138 01:55:26,160 --> 01:55:27,720 connection to Salt Lake City and to 3139 01:55:27,720 --> 01:55:28,840 Denver. 3140 01:55:28,840 --> 01:55:31,760 We've got a boatload of capacity in 3141 01:55:31,760 --> 01:55:33,720 terms of built infrastructure for the 3142 01:55:33,720 --> 01:55:36,960 visitation economy. We've got a level 3143 01:55:36,960 --> 01:55:39,200 four trauma hospital that has surgical 3144 01:55:39,200 --> 01:55:42,920 suites, has recovery capability. 3145 01:55:42,920 --> 01:55:45,080 This is a perfect place for you to come 3146 01:55:45,080 --> 01:55:46,960 and start your physical therapy 3147 01:55:46,960 --> 01:55:49,320 practice, your 3148 01:55:49,320 --> 01:55:50,920 elective surgery practice, your 3149 01:55:50,920 --> 01:55:54,360 orthopedics practice. And what uh Jen 3150 01:55:54,360 --> 01:55:56,840 had mentioned is once that orthopedics 3151 01:55:56,840 --> 01:55:58,800 practice is in place, 3152 01:55:58,800 --> 01:56:02,480 to be able to do that marketing and that 3153 01:56:02,480 --> 01:56:05,280 advertising around now, how do we help 3154 01:56:05,280 --> 01:56:07,080 you build your practice? How do we help 3155 01:56:07,080 --> 01:56:08,240 you build your physical therapy 3156 01:56:08,240 --> 01:56:10,040 practice? The thing that's really 3157 01:56:10,040 --> 01:56:12,000 interesting about that approach is with 3158 01:56:12,000 --> 01:56:14,320 USU, we also have an opportunity to 3159 01:56:14,320 --> 01:56:16,040 train our workforce in conjunction with 3160 01:56:16,040 --> 01:56:19,200 that. So, whether that's 3161 01:56:19,200 --> 01:56:22,360 rural healthcare, aging, physical 3162 01:56:22,360 --> 01:56:24,400 therapy, 3163 01:56:24,400 --> 01:56:27,360 working as an aid, how do we map our 3164 01:56:27,360 --> 01:56:29,240 programs to what we're trying to build? 3165 01:56:29,240 --> 01:56:30,800 So, if we double down and we say these 3166 01:56:30,800 --> 01:56:32,360 are the types of industry clusters that 3167 01:56:32,360 --> 01:56:34,320 we're trying to attract, how do we 3168 01:56:34,320 --> 01:56:36,560 develop our workforce at the same time 3169 01:56:36,560 --> 01:56:39,080 so that our kids who are graduating from 3170 01:56:39,080 --> 01:56:42,080 high school can go take those 3171 01:56:42,080 --> 01:56:44,320 uh tourism jobs, and they can get those 3172 01:56:44,320 --> 01:56:46,280 cash tips, and all the things that are 3173 01:56:46,280 --> 01:56:48,960 now luring into that, but they're also 3174 01:56:48,960 --> 01:56:51,040 getting certificates, degrees, and 3175 01:56:51,040 --> 01:56:53,840 building out skills at the same time 3176 01:56:53,840 --> 01:56:56,200 that would help them develop a career in 3177 01:56:56,200 --> 01:56:57,520 an industry that we're trying to 3178 01:56:57,520 --> 01:57:00,120 attract. So, really high level with the 3179 01:57:00,120 --> 01:57:01,920 time that we have, 3180 01:57:01,920 --> 01:57:04,000 that's one of the things that would be a 3181 01:57:04,000 --> 01:57:06,240 really interesting RCOG. 3182 01:57:06,240 --> 01:57:08,160 One of the communities, and I can't 3183 01:57:08,160 --> 01:57:10,400 remember, I want to say it wasn't Kane, 3184 01:57:10,400 --> 01:57:12,280 maybe it was Garfield, 3185 01:57:12,280 --> 01:57:14,760 was talking in our meeting last week 3186 01:57:14,760 --> 01:57:17,360 that their RCOG is all about, "We don't 3187 01:57:17,360 --> 01:57:18,600 want people to come and visit here. 3188 01:57:18,600 --> 01:57:19,880 We've got enough visitors, we've got 3189 01:57:19,880 --> 01:57:21,960 enough tourism, our TRT funds are taking 3190 01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:24,120 care of that. What our concern is is 3191 01:57:24,120 --> 01:57:25,880 that we don't have enough taxpayers as a 3192 01:57:25,880 --> 01:57:28,080 property tax base. So, what we want to 3193 01:57:28,080 --> 01:57:29,920 do with our RCOG, and I think they're in 3194 01:57:29,920 --> 01:57:32,560 process, their commercial is like mostly 3195 01:57:32,560 --> 01:57:34,760 produced now, they wanted to do a huge 3196 01:57:34,760 --> 01:57:36,600 campaign about why this is a really 3197 01:57:36,600 --> 01:57:39,040 great county to live. This is definitely 3198 01:57:39,040 --> 01:57:40,320 >> in that sentence? Sorry. 3199 01:57:40,320 --> 01:57:40,760 >> Garf- 3200 01:57:40,760 --> 01:57:41,480 >> Garfield County. 3201 01:57:41,480 --> 01:57:42,120 >> Oh, the county. 3202 01:57:42,120 --> 01:57:44,200 >> Garfield, yeah. So, it's another county. 3203 01:57:44,200 --> 01:57:44,680 >> right. 3204 01:57:44,680 --> 01:57:46,520 >> So, ours would sort of be parallel to 3205 01:57:46,520 --> 01:57:48,040 that, but instead of come and live here 3206 01:57:48,040 --> 01:57:49,880 or whatever, it's this is the great 3207 01:57:49,880 --> 01:57:53,120 place for you to come and do your 3208 01:57:53,120 --> 01:57:54,880 research in this specific area. Like 3209 01:57:54,880 --> 01:57:56,840 there have been a lot of 3210 01:57:56,840 --> 01:57:59,160 uh a lot of New York Times articles 3211 01:57:59,160 --> 01:58:01,600 recently around rural health care 3212 01:58:01,600 --> 01:58:02,840 because of the funding that has been 3213 01:58:02,840 --> 01:58:04,720 made available, and people are 3214 01:58:04,720 --> 01:58:06,840 relocating to do research. They're 3215 01:58:06,840 --> 01:58:08,080 starting all of these different 3216 01:58:08,080 --> 01:58:10,320 projects. The interesting thing about 3217 01:58:10,320 --> 01:58:12,040 Grand County is that we're kind of 3218 01:58:12,040 --> 01:58:14,760 redefining rural because you can 3219 01:58:14,760 --> 01:58:16,440 actually get great cocktails here, and 3220 01:58:16,440 --> 01:58:17,960 you can go get a massage because of the 3221 01:58:17,960 --> 01:58:20,320 tourism industry. We've got a lot of 3222 01:58:20,320 --> 01:58:23,720 depth, we've got uh airport where you've 3223 01:58:23,720 --> 01:58:25,640 got daily flights. 3224 01:58:25,640 --> 01:58:27,800 Not every rural community that you go to 3225 01:58:27,800 --> 01:58:29,080 is going to be able to offer those 3226 01:58:29,080 --> 01:58:32,560 things or have those things available. 3227 01:58:32,560 --> 01:58:37,760 >> So, I think these are good ideas. The challenge with this is always 3228 01:58:37,760 --> 01:58:40,360 this is a government conversation, and 3229 01:58:40,360 --> 01:58:42,120 what you're looking for is 3230 01:58:42,120 --> 01:58:44,280 entrepreneurship. I mean, or or or 3231 01:58:44,280 --> 01:58:46,920 business people who want to execute on 3232 01:58:46,920 --> 01:58:49,480 these strategies. And I just wonder if 3233 01:58:49,480 --> 01:58:52,160 we shouldn't be asking our business 3234 01:58:52,160 --> 01:58:55,120 people more about what ideas they have 3235 01:58:55,120 --> 01:58:58,280 and what they see as their opportunities 3236 01:58:58,280 --> 01:59:01,240 to grow a business. I mean, when we 3237 01:59:01,240 --> 01:59:03,880 created Outerbike, the whole idea was to 3238 01:59:03,880 --> 01:59:06,040 bring the entire bike industry to Moab 3239 01:59:06,040 --> 01:59:08,920 once a year. And um 3240 01:59:08,920 --> 01:59:11,680 you know, that is that's 3241 01:59:11,680 --> 01:59:14,360 that was just how we were growing that 3242 01:59:14,360 --> 01:59:17,400 piece. And but and and in my dreams, it 3243 01:59:17,400 --> 01:59:19,400 would have been some of those companies 3244 01:59:19,400 --> 01:59:22,120 would have started doing some more R&D 3245 01:59:22,120 --> 01:59:24,000 here. We were hoping Specialized was 3246 01:59:24,000 --> 01:59:26,120 going to pay for a building at USU. Like 3247 01:59:26,120 --> 01:59:28,760 there was a like next level commitment 3248 01:59:28,760 --> 01:59:31,160 to the to it that would create jobs and 3249 01:59:31,160 --> 01:59:33,360 bring all kinds of cool projects like 3250 01:59:33,360 --> 01:59:35,440 that. And then the pandemic happened, so 3251 01:59:35,440 --> 01:59:38,400 whatever, forget it. But but I think 3252 01:59:38,400 --> 01:59:43,080 that like government can have ideas, but 3253 01:59:43,080 --> 01:59:45,040 the business people in town have to 3254 01:59:45,040 --> 01:59:47,520 actually be ready to execute on those 3255 01:59:47,520 --> 01:59:49,640 kind of thing. So we it might be worth 3256 01:59:49,640 --> 01:59:52,080 it we could even have 3257 01:59:52,080 --> 01:59:54,080 just do a little outreach to see who's 3258 01:59:54,080 --> 01:59:56,720 got ideas. Not like funding like these 3259 01:59:56,720 --> 01:59:58,360 small businesses that we are trying to 3260 01:59:58,360 --> 02:00:00,840 help, but what are the ideas? I mean, I 3261 02:00:00,840 --> 02:00:02,600 don't know what Rebecca is doing all 3262 02:00:02,600 --> 02:00:04,520 this stuff with local food and there's 3263 02:00:04,520 --> 02:00:06,440 just other categories too that that 3264 02:00:06,440 --> 02:00:09,040 could be really interesting that could 3265 02:00:09,040 --> 02:00:10,160 um 3266 02:00:10,160 --> 02:00:12,960 that we could have growth in and and and 3267 02:00:12,960 --> 02:00:15,280 um expertise and along the lines of what 3268 02:00:15,280 --> 02:00:16,920 you're saying. I think that's not a bad 3269 02:00:16,920 --> 02:00:18,280 idea, but I think there might be others 3270 02:00:18,280 --> 02:00:20,600 out there too that we could look at. 3271 02:00:20,600 --> 02:00:22,120 >> I think that's kind of our job as board 3272 02:00:22,120 --> 02:00:24,720 members, like is to be floating out 3273 02:00:24,720 --> 02:00:26,920 there getting those ideas from people. 3274 02:00:26,920 --> 02:00:28,640 And realistically, it's going to be a 3275 02:00:28,640 --> 02:00:32,080 challenge to hatch a brand new idea and 3276 02:00:32,080 --> 02:00:34,480 grow it to a robust proposal in 2 3277 02:00:34,480 --> 02:00:36,840 months. So if we're talking about this 3278 02:00:36,840 --> 02:00:38,640 cycle, you know, we want to make sure 3279 02:00:38,640 --> 02:00:40,400 that we're I always think with these 3280 02:00:40,400 --> 02:00:41,600 things like we want to make sure we're 3281 02:00:41,600 --> 02:00:43,160 working with strong partners. Because in 3282 02:00:43,160 --> 02:00:45,560 particular with these this grant, RCOG's 3283 02:00:45,560 --> 02:00:48,160 like it's geared towards government, 3284 02:00:48,160 --> 02:00:51,000 right? But, you know, the hospital would 3285 02:00:51,000 --> 02:00:53,400 be I mean, it's largest employer in 3286 02:00:53,400 --> 02:00:55,800 town, isn't it? Yeah. I mean, 3287 02:00:55,800 --> 02:00:57,200 about as strong of a partner as you 3288 02:00:57,200 --> 02:00:59,000 would get, right? So, if and I would 3289 02:00:59,000 --> 02:01:01,480 definitely say this, only if Jens and I 3290 02:01:01,480 --> 02:01:02,920 and the hospital want to partner with 3291 02:01:02,920 --> 02:01:05,280 the county on a project like this, 3292 02:01:05,280 --> 02:01:07,120 I think you've got a really robust group 3293 02:01:07,120 --> 02:01:08,840 of partners at that point. And 3294 02:01:08,840 --> 02:01:10,360 >> I agree. I'm just saying there's other 3295 02:01:10,360 --> 02:01:10,760 things out there. 3296 02:01:10,760 --> 02:01:12,160 >> But and we should be exploring them. I 3297 02:01:12,160 --> 02:01:13,120 totally agree with that. 3298 02:01:13,120 --> 02:01:15,000 >> because it will take us a year to find 3299 02:01:15,000 --> 02:01:15,760 them and 3300 02:01:15,760 --> 02:01:16,800 >> We should be cooking up some 3301 02:01:16,800 --> 02:01:17,920 >> one's been kicking around for a little 3302 02:01:17,920 --> 02:01:19,720 while, and it's a good idea, and it's 3303 02:01:19,720 --> 02:01:22,440 the one teed up for now, and I think it 3304 02:01:22,440 --> 02:01:23,680 has 3305 02:01:23,680 --> 02:01:27,280 um potential. And so, if that's what we 3306 02:01:27,280 --> 02:01:29,080 you know, and if they want to partner, 3307 02:01:29,080 --> 02:01:30,880 then that's great. But I think there's 3308 02:01:30,880 --> 02:01:32,640 others out there, too, that could be 3309 02:01:32,640 --> 02:01:34,720 interesting and 3310 02:01:34,720 --> 02:01:37,600 >> But also also keep in mind, you know, 3311 02:01:37,600 --> 02:01:39,960 that it's that it's you're looking for a 3312 02:01:39,960 --> 02:01:42,160 county project, right? Like that's 3313 02:01:42,160 --> 02:01:43,200 something that you guys learned 3314 02:01:43,200 --> 02:01:45,520 previously. You know, it's the actual 3315 02:01:45,520 --> 02:01:48,120 county's project, not 3316 02:01:48,120 --> 02:01:50,200 giving the money to or granting the 3317 02:01:50,200 --> 02:01:51,560 money to another business. Or it's 3318 02:01:51,560 --> 02:01:53,160 really their project that the county's 3319 02:01:53,160 --> 02:01:54,400 funding, right? I think you guys are 3320 02:01:54,400 --> 02:01:56,160 trying to move away from that and it be 3321 02:01:56,160 --> 02:01:58,520 an actual county project that the county 3322 02:01:58,520 --> 02:01:59,320 owns. 3323 02:01:59,320 --> 02:02:00,680 >> Well, I I don't get that exactly, 3324 02:02:00,680 --> 02:02:02,640 because the county's not going to hire a 3325 02:02:02,640 --> 02:02:04,080 physical therapist. The county's not 3326 02:02:04,080 --> 02:02:04,560 going to host 3327 02:02:04,560 --> 02:02:06,480 >> How is it a county project? Do you want 3328 02:02:06,480 --> 02:02:08,080 to And I guess we don't really have 3329 02:02:08,080 --> 02:02:08,600 time, but 3330 02:02:08,600 --> 02:02:09,920 >> Well, we can talk about that next time, 3331 02:02:09,920 --> 02:02:10,760 but I mean, 3332 02:02:10,760 --> 02:02:12,160 >> But that's But that's an important 3333 02:02:12,160 --> 02:02:12,880 question, isn't it? 3334 02:02:12,880 --> 02:02:14,600 >> Yeah, I mean, the county's supporting, 3335 02:02:14,600 --> 02:02:15,640 like, 3336 02:02:15,640 --> 02:02:17,920 it government is not business. Business 3337 02:02:17,920 --> 02:02:19,640 is got to be independent. 3338 02:02:19,640 --> 02:02:21,760 >> she's talking about like the government 3339 02:02:21,760 --> 02:02:24,000 doing the advertising, right? Building 3340 02:02:24,000 --> 02:02:27,560 the the like EDC, stuff like that. But I 3341 02:02:27,560 --> 02:02:29,680 mean, I think that it really comes down 3342 02:02:29,680 --> 02:02:31,280 It has to be a close partnership with 3343 02:02:31,280 --> 02:02:32,920 the hospital. I mean, and so some of the 3344 02:02:32,920 --> 02:02:34,640 funding might flow to the hospital, 3345 02:02:34,640 --> 02:02:34,760 like, 3346 02:02:34,760 --> 02:02:36,080 >> Well, yeah, that's why I'm a little bit 3347 02:02:36,080 --> 02:02:37,240 confused about how they do it. 3348 02:02:37,240 --> 02:02:39,520 >> a project run by the county. 3349 02:02:39,520 --> 02:02:42,320 >> RFP, correct. So, like, you work with 3350 02:02:42,320 --> 02:02:45,200 the hospital, right? It is a 3351 02:02:45,200 --> 02:02:46,920 partnership. You're paying other people 3352 02:02:46,920 --> 02:02:49,240 to do these things. 3353 02:02:49,240 --> 02:02:51,640 But the county is who is paying the 3354 02:02:51,640 --> 02:02:54,920 people and cultivating the partnership. 3355 02:02:54,920 --> 02:02:55,880 To get the things done. 3356 02:02:55,880 --> 02:02:58,240 >> like running point on the project. 3357 02:02:58,240 --> 02:03:01,120 That's why we we need somebody at the 3358 02:03:01,120 --> 02:03:02,720 We also, in addition to having like a 3359 02:03:02,720 --> 02:03:04,280 strong outside partner like a hospital, 3360 02:03:04,280 --> 02:03:06,360 we need to have a willing partner within 3361 02:03:06,360 --> 02:03:08,160 the county government, right? To run 3362 02:03:08,160 --> 02:03:09,560 point on a project like this. I mean, 3363 02:03:09,560 --> 02:03:11,840 that's that's huge, too. 3364 02:03:11,840 --> 02:03:13,440 But we're out of time. 3365 02:03:13,440 --> 02:03:14,320 Um 3366 02:03:14,320 --> 02:03:15,200 so, [laughter] 3367 02:03:15,200 --> 02:03:17,040 I think I would say 3368 02:03:17,040 --> 02:03:19,160 it's probably smart for us to come back 3369 02:03:19,160 --> 02:03:20,680 to the next meeting with additional 3370 02:03:20,680 --> 02:03:23,400 ideas for our COG, if you have them, 3371 02:03:23,400 --> 02:03:25,440 because if this doesn't work out, right? 3372 02:03:25,440 --> 02:03:27,720 Like we don't want to you know, if 3373 02:03:27,720 --> 02:03:29,360 Jen says 3374 02:03:29,360 --> 02:03:31,760 I really love this idea and I'm sorry, 3375 02:03:31,760 --> 02:03:33,520 it's just not the year for us right now. 3376 02:03:33,520 --> 02:03:35,080 Like then what are we going to do, 3377 02:03:35,080 --> 02:03:36,600 right? I don't want us to be I would I 3378 02:03:36,600 --> 02:03:37,720 would hate for us to be in a situation 3379 02:03:37,720 --> 02:03:39,000 where that just means no application 3380 02:03:39,000 --> 02:03:41,280 this year. So, I do think it's good for 3381 02:03:41,280 --> 02:03:43,160 at least all of us to be thinking about 3382 02:03:43,160 --> 02:03:44,840 other things. If there's something that 3383 02:03:44,840 --> 02:03:46,520 might be even if it's a smaller project, 3384 02:03:46,520 --> 02:03:48,560 you know, but like something. 3385 02:03:48,560 --> 02:03:49,680 Um but either way, we're going to 3386 02:03:49,680 --> 02:03:52,360 continue that conversation next time. 3387 02:03:52,360 --> 02:03:53,400 >> You Can you know what would be really 3388 02:03:53,400 --> 02:03:55,880 helpful? Is could you give examples of a 3389 02:03:55,880 --> 02:03:57,720 county project that another county has 3390 02:03:57,720 --> 02:04:00,360 done that absolutely fit this? Because I 3391 02:04:00,360 --> 02:04:01,240 still am struggling 3392 02:04:01,240 --> 02:04:04,560 >> innovation hubs. Like those stuff like 3393 02:04:04,560 --> 02:04:05,720 that is like innovation stuff. 3394 02:04:05,720 --> 02:04:07,040 >> were going to ask all the county 3395 02:04:07,040 --> 02:04:09,200 institutions to throw us a proposal. I 3396 02:04:09,200 --> 02:04:10,000 thought we were going to 3397 02:04:10,000 --> 02:04:11,600 >> Oh, yeah, we did talk about it. 3398 02:04:11,600 --> 02:04:14,800 >> Yeah, I was like, oh, cuz Ousta came. I 3399 02:04:14,800 --> 02:04:17,160 thought like it was kind of that was the 3400 02:04:17,160 --> 02:04:20,800 plan, but now I'm you know, 3401 02:04:20,800 --> 02:04:21,960 that's where we're going. That's where 3402 02:04:21,960 --> 02:04:23,080 we're going. I don't 3403 02:04:23,080 --> 02:04:24,200 >> I thought that's what we talked about 3404 02:04:24,200 --> 02:04:25,680 and then we didn't. 3405 02:04:25,680 --> 02:04:26,280 >> Yeah. 3406 02:04:26,280 --> 02:04:27,920 that's right. We had this idea 3407 02:04:27,920 --> 02:04:29,520 that we were going to really make it a 3408 02:04:29,520 --> 02:04:31,800 county project, like invest in the 3409 02:04:31,800 --> 02:04:34,040 county, right? Like 3410 02:04:34,040 --> 02:04:35,200 >> Yeah, I think that's the idea. 3411 02:04:35,200 --> 02:04:36,760 >> I think we're we're kind of like 3412 02:04:36,760 --> 02:04:38,360 institutions, 3413 02:04:38,360 --> 02:04:40,120 you know, instead of like small business 3414 02:04:40,120 --> 02:04:42,440 like businesses. It was like whatever I 3415 02:04:42,440 --> 02:04:43,800 mean the hospital is kind of an 3416 02:04:43,800 --> 02:04:44,560 institution. 3417 02:04:44,560 --> 02:04:46,600 >> Yeah. But I thought it was like aren't 3418 02:04:46,600 --> 02:04:48,360 there departments in the county that 3419 02:04:48,360 --> 02:04:51,760 need more money that 3420 02:04:51,760 --> 02:04:53,240 Actually, I think we were running 3421 02:04:53,240 --> 02:04:54,920 through that idea and then it was kind 3422 02:04:54,920 --> 02:04:56,440 of like well Melissa has all these 3423 02:04:56,440 --> 02:05:00,990 things she should just 3424 02:05:01,000 --> 02:05:02,120 » Exactly. That's exactly 3425 02:05:02,120 --> 02:05:04,320 >> Like I think that's the trajectory. 3426 02:05:04,320 --> 02:05:06,320 >> So am I to bring you examples next 3427 02:05:06,320 --> 02:05:08,000 meeting? Is that an action item for me? 3428 02:05:08,000 --> 02:05:09,880 >> That would I think that would be great. 3429 02:05:09,880 --> 02:05:12,560 >> Not 10 like 10 next year too. 3430 02:05:12,560 --> 02:05:16,480 >> Just like some time to us sooner because 3431 02:05:16,480 --> 02:05:18,520 >> maybe it might be something to bring to 3432 02:05:18,520 --> 02:05:20,160 the next meeting instead of like having 3433 02:05:20,160 --> 02:05:20,720 it 3434 02:05:20,720 --> 02:05:23,320 >> I mean one that really matters 3435 02:05:23,320 --> 02:05:28,280 >> We're we're constantly trying to understand the legislature's 3436 02:05:28,280 --> 02:05:29,560 intent. 3437 02:05:29,560 --> 02:05:31,440 Like what is or the 3438 02:05:31,440 --> 02:05:32,160 governor's intent. 3439 02:05:32,160 --> 02:05:34,480 >> Right here there's three bullet points 3440 02:05:34,480 --> 02:05:37,040 of what this funding is to be used for. 3441 02:05:37,040 --> 02:05:38,560 >> Okay. 3442 02:05:38,560 --> 02:05:40,240 But that's but we 3443 02:05:40,240 --> 02:05:41,000 >> I mean a lot of it is like 3444 02:05:41,000 --> 02:05:42,880 infrastructure stuff that's hard for us 3445 02:05:42,880 --> 02:05:46,160 to how to translate it to here like I 3446 02:05:46,160 --> 02:05:48,000 mean you could do site work site prep 3447 02:05:48,000 --> 02:05:49,520 for like manufacturing, right? You know 3448 02:05:49,520 --> 02:05:50,880 what I mean? Like that would fit really 3449 02:05:50,880 --> 02:05:51,960 well in this scope. 3450 02:05:51,960 --> 02:05:54,040 >> We have a massive amount of money but 3451 02:05:54,040 --> 02:05:58,070 it's not the same. 3452 02:05:58,080 --> 02:05:59,680 But I think we don't want to fund those. 3453 02:05:59,680 --> 02:06:01,680 I don't know whatever we can talk more. 3454 02:06:01,680 --> 02:06:02,440 >> We did a joint 3455 02:06:02,440 --> 02:06:06,240 >> Okay. We did a joint we don't have to 3456 02:06:06,240 --> 02:06:08,840 >> Actually you don't want one of these? 3457 02:06:08,840 --> 02:06:09,640 >> I don't think so. 3458 02:06:09,640 --> 02:06:10,760 >> I know you do. 3459 02:06:10,760 --> 02:06:13,710 >> Oh. 3460 02:06:13,720 --> 02:06:15,680 » Anybody else? 3461 02:06:15,680 --> 02:06:17,040 State statutes? 3462 02:06:17,040 --> 02:06:18,120 >> I have read it sometimes. 3463 02:06:18,120 --> 02:06:20,040 >> State statutes anymore? 3464 02:06:20,040 --> 02:06:21,440 >> Give me all the state statute you've 3465 02:06:21,440 --> 02:06:21,960 got. 3466 02:06:21,960 --> 02:06:23,080 >> So this one 3467 02:06:23,080 --> 02:06:24,760 a light read. This one's a good one. 3468 02:06:24,760 --> 02:06:26,680 >> What is that? Like where do you find 3469 02:06:26,680 --> 02:06:27,000 that? 3470 02:06:27,000 --> 02:06:28,920 >> You just you can just type in trail to 3471 02:06:28,920 --> 02:06:30,440 tomorrow Grand County in the top. We're 3472 02:06:30,440 --> 02:06:31,200 going to pull up. 3473 02:06:31,200 --> 02:06:33,840 >> It is a It was a $150,000 3474 02:06:33,840 --> 02:06:37,600 plan that was commissioned in like 2022 3475 02:06:37,600 --> 02:06:39,480 maybe. 3476 02:06:39,480 --> 02:06:41,800 And it was presented to the commission 3477 02:06:41,800 --> 02:06:44,880 in 2024.