1 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:23,400 . And thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. 2 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:31,560 I think I saw more five. Just a second ago, maybe he's going to listen. He was moving pretty fast. Oh, my, it's fine. 3 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:44,240 Are we ready to go? Okay. So it's 530 on the 10th of August. It will call this meeting of the Planning Commission to order. 4 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:51,480 And it looks like we have all members present here except for Aaron. 5 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,100 So we'll see if he joins us in in a few minutes. 6 00:03:00,580 --> 00:03:04,860 We'll go on to expertake, communication, say, and disclosure, stairs. 7 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,060 And so all members are present. 8 00:03:08,220 --> 00:03:11,840 We'll move on to expertake, communications, and disclosures. 9 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:16,020 Anyone with any expertake? 10 00:03:17,780 --> 00:03:25,780 seeing nothing will move on to approval of the meeting minutes. And we start with July 27th of 2020 sets. 11 00:03:27,220 --> 00:03:32,180 We have any comments on the July 27th, maybe a minute. 12 00:03:36,750 --> 00:03:38,570 I'd like to make a motion to please those minutes. 13 00:03:38,830 --> 00:03:40,910 I guess we're. Okay. 14 00:03:41,070 --> 00:03:44,070 I need to make the motion to approve and I'll be seconded. 15 00:03:44,830 --> 00:03:47,170 Any discussion in the comments. 16 00:03:48,870 --> 00:03:59,090 Seeing enough, all under 10, there will have a vote, all those are vacant, proposed, no 17 00:03:59,090 --> 00:04:09,110 extensions, then move on to August 3rd, 20, 26, meeting minutes, not in 10 minutes, 18 00:04:09,110 --> 00:04:18,090 very moved to Bruce. Okay. Second. Okay. Any discussion changes coming at Sunday. 19 00:04:19,710 --> 00:04:25,600 All right. Seeing none, all those in favor of the students. 20 00:04:28,970 --> 00:04:33,610 So we're going to presentations. We have 21 00:04:34,170 --> 00:04:34,650 And 22 00:04:38,010 --> 00:04:45,990 in founding commission update, there's first, there are two, there's a couple of us. 23 00:04:48,590 --> 00:04:49,550 What's that? 24 00:04:50,410 --> 00:04:51,590 Yeah, I like first. 25 00:04:52,130 --> 00:04:52,530 Yeah, why not? 26 00:04:52,990 --> 00:04:55,990 Yeah, the major utility overlay went through. 27 00:04:56,170 --> 00:04:59,110 And if it was a 7.0 vote this time, it was a phone by two. 28 00:04:59,230 --> 00:05:00,050 There was earlier there. 29 00:05:00,530 --> 00:05:02,830 So everyone was on board for that coming around. 30 00:05:02,830 --> 00:05:12,070 And let's see here there was a background that was a letter of recommendation for that, which is for the widening of the resource full of our. 31 00:05:12,670 --> 00:05:15,910 And then we had a traffic analysis. 32 00:05:16,670 --> 00:05:21,710 On the area that seems to keep coming back for review over there by the. 33 00:05:21,710 --> 00:05:23,710 Is that right or where? 34 00:05:24,450 --> 00:05:26,670 And Zimmerman, all of that kind of alone. 35 00:05:27,650 --> 00:05:30,130 So there was some discussion about which 36 00:05:30,130 --> 00:05:32,450 if we should just do the traffic study in the area 37 00:05:32,450 --> 00:05:36,070 that seems to be keeping a bucket or if we should widen it 38 00:05:36,070 --> 00:05:39,410 to include all the way up to be in it. 39 00:05:39,690 --> 00:05:41,250 So right now I think Rose is kind of lucky 40 00:05:41,250 --> 00:05:44,370 me to see if they have the funding to expand that study. 41 00:05:44,910 --> 00:05:46,950 Or if we're going to just look for that Zimmerman 42 00:05:46,950 --> 00:05:49,070 and the traffic study in that little border. 43 00:05:50,110 --> 00:05:54,470 Let's see here, there was the jar harris, let me give that right. 44 00:05:54,770 --> 00:05:57,490 It's just a room and if anybody speaks to that. 45 00:05:57,750 --> 00:05:59,290 There he is. 46 00:05:59,410 --> 00:06:00,510 Oh, Jerry's. 47 00:06:00,510 --> 00:06:01,010 Jerry's. 48 00:06:01,050 --> 00:06:01,550 There we go. 49 00:06:01,790 --> 00:06:02,710 That works. 50 00:06:03,230 --> 00:06:04,950 And then there was also a vote. 51 00:06:05,290 --> 00:06:06,150 I don't know who Sarah is. 52 00:06:07,950 --> 00:06:10,210 So that's all that happened. 53 00:06:11,330 --> 00:06:13,150 And then the easier to pay for just the act. 54 00:06:13,270 --> 00:06:14,950 Just the one thing is that. 55 00:06:14,950 --> 00:06:22,430 Mr. Winfield asked that the for Oaks come back and so it can you just go see that process 56 00:06:22,430 --> 00:06:27,070 if you don't mind Andrew when you have something as fair or the county commission. How does that? 57 00:06:27,730 --> 00:06:32,670 I was that revisited. That's the turnip question. Okay. Okay. 58 00:06:32,670 --> 00:06:37,210 You're on me. I was generally in brand new application. We've always processed them as brand new. 59 00:06:37,470 --> 00:06:39,850 Okay. Thank you very much. That was a good brand. That was a good time for sure. 60 00:06:39,850 --> 00:06:41,630 like it's like vote over and over again, 61 00:06:42,130 --> 00:06:43,810 and Brad has done that a couple of things. 62 00:06:44,990 --> 00:06:46,010 He knows the process. 63 00:06:46,230 --> 00:06:47,070 He knows the process. 64 00:06:47,450 --> 00:06:49,870 He knows the process. 65 00:06:49,870 --> 00:06:50,610 Brand new application. 66 00:06:51,010 --> 00:06:52,150 He's fired another application. 67 00:06:52,150 --> 00:06:53,670 He's something that everything you did. 68 00:06:54,090 --> 00:06:55,790 If there's any additives you've had them. 69 00:06:56,510 --> 00:06:57,730 If they come back saying, 70 00:06:57,870 --> 00:06:58,730 you want traffic study. 71 00:06:59,010 --> 00:07:00,170 I never had counting people. 72 00:07:00,670 --> 00:07:01,210 Right. 73 00:07:01,470 --> 00:07:04,370 That was a thing. 74 00:07:04,450 --> 00:07:08,850 Every time. 75 00:07:08,850 --> 00:07:15,030 not floating at all. I always knew they were coming. Okay. Okay. If that's the 76 00:07:15,030 --> 00:07:19,410 end of the deal and we want that, we need to say that. Right up front. So the 77 00:07:19,410 --> 00:07:23,330 developers, they're going to try for a subdivision and create a traffic issue. 78 00:07:24,010 --> 00:07:28,250 They need to have a traffic study. We already know the basic line of what's going to 79 00:07:28,250 --> 00:07:29,730 happen with eight houses. You're kidding? 80 00:07:30,000 --> 00:07:36,420 You call any engineering firm in the state and they can answer that question. So this isn't a big deal. Right. 81 00:07:36,820 --> 00:07:41,320 Could be if depending on what they come up with, but for eight houses, no, you already know that they 82 00:07:41,320 --> 00:07:47,440 Egyptian or anything. So with that experience that I've been through. Yes, ma'am. Thank you, ma'am. 83 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:53,100 It's not a hard process. It just takes time. Sometimes time is money depending on who the 84 00:07:53,100 --> 00:07:58,240 developer is and what they're trying to accomplish. So it does get burdensome for that in the day. 85 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,580 That kind of structure was standard and learned there. 86 00:08:00,600 --> 00:08:02,900 My foot is such a thing of the land use code today. 87 00:08:03,100 --> 00:08:06,680 Road department uses, and it talks about what kind of road you need. 88 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:12,460 Based on engineering, and it's in real bad need of being updated. 89 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:17,480 Back when I was working, it was in bad need of being updated and still not updated. 90 00:08:17,760 --> 00:08:20,420 And the engineers were all asking for that, so, okay. 91 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,920 The road department handles all that. 92 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:29,920 I don't have any guarantees with the study of a large area in just a subdivision, 93 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:36,020 because you have the subdivision of lots, that's 800 trips a day, that's four trips an hour, 94 00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:40,920 it's about 15 minutes. I think that could be a problem, no, or versus a public reveals. 95 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:45,400 Traffic and all these people are going to be killed and all like us are going to do, right? 96 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:53,900 Four trips an hour probably not, right? And so what we wanted to do was to look at the 97 00:08:53,900 --> 00:08:57,900 Some where nothing has been proposed at this point, but we have, 98 00:08:58,740 --> 00:09:00,540 I'm going to share it with Chris already, 99 00:09:02,100 --> 00:09:04,900 but she terminated this map that very much could be 100 00:09:05,720 --> 00:09:07,660 at four or five units per day, 101 00:09:07,660 --> 00:09:10,320 her versus the one acre density this now. 102 00:09:10,800 --> 00:09:15,360 It's a, oh, which got Horox doing a traffic analysis. 103 00:09:15,940 --> 00:09:19,460 As if that area developed at three units per acre, 104 00:09:19,460 --> 00:09:22,500 which is more than it's currently zone for, 105 00:09:22,500 --> 00:09:28,120 but less than what the future land use plan is. So we're just looking at a larger area because if you 106 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:33,900 just do one-off side of the vision area for four lots, it's going to be one trip per hour, 107 00:09:34,220 --> 00:09:39,300 this is going to be four trips per hour. This one over here is going to be three trips per hour. 108 00:09:41,220 --> 00:09:46,060 It's obviously, there's no problem. It's that strong, it's the care of it's back. 109 00:09:46,060 --> 00:09:52,800 It's a, you put the burden of a whole bunch of improvements on a person who's doing it too 110 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:59,300 lots of additional, because all these others came in without that cumulative impact. 111 00:09:59,540 --> 00:10:01,340 And so that's, as we're trying to do with this. 112 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:06,620 Also the same reason that we're in this, this, this, uh, problem first place, right? 113 00:10:07,020 --> 00:10:10,760 Traffic study was done for that one subdivision, right? 114 00:10:11,040 --> 00:10:14,880 And then as that subdivision has been there, it's now a thorough way going through. 115 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,700 So without having done, without having done a larger, 116 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:21,000 like where our arterial is going for that area, right? 117 00:10:21,040 --> 00:10:23,840 We're pushing all of this on something that was never meant to be 118 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:24,640 that arterial route. 119 00:10:24,660 --> 00:10:26,880 Well, what happened with the Zimmerman is there's a section 120 00:10:26,880 --> 00:10:27,620 of the land use code. 121 00:10:27,680 --> 00:10:29,300 This is a you can connect, you connect. 122 00:10:29,460 --> 00:10:30,880 So it had to connect a Zimmerman. 123 00:10:31,040 --> 00:10:33,340 And it celebrated particularly care for it. 124 00:10:33,660 --> 00:10:39,200 But we also had tried to require 125 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:47,700 And subdivision developers to adults that they're going to have their subdivisions going to cost the problems. 126 00:10:48,220 --> 00:10:52,700 And there's someone to kick back, that it was just done through traffic studies or horrors. 127 00:10:52,860 --> 00:10:56,880 But Zimmerman, I mean, it's still in the largest code that if you can connect, you can connect. 128 00:10:57,420 --> 00:11:03,060 And you don't have to pay or develop beyond your subdivision. 129 00:11:03,060 --> 00:11:25,420 So, a lot, I'll probably see it out on her village, there's a road that stops it, look at the guy's name that has a big beautiful farm out there, there's stops right there, but it's, and he was concerned that he's what if I don't want my road there as well, first come for serve and that's kind of how that happened. So that's always been a part of our process of procedures. 130 00:11:26,420 --> 00:11:35,600 Another part of it, it's great that I'm on, but connectivity was every deal and also where the main arteries were by the Belangius plan. 131 00:11:36,300 --> 00:11:40,260 All right, where are the arteries, where do we want this traffic and have that going to help? 132 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:45,820 One of the things I saw that Perkran can still is, we don't have enough connectivity to the highway. 133 00:11:46,420 --> 00:11:50,960 We've got to build and get some roads across where the Spanish trail will be. 134 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:56,920 Yeah, that's a lot of traffic we're driving in various, and I think that was some of the 135 00:11:56,920 --> 00:12:01,240 conversations that we had about expanding the traffic study, the size of the area, and 136 00:12:01,240 --> 00:12:05,880 it's sure that we are looking at some of the other areas, the acceleration that we didn't. 137 00:12:06,260 --> 00:12:12,720 So those needed, is it this subdivision of a lot that should pay for the acceleration of 138 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:18,560 the acceleration of the, or should it be much larger area, which then did it's paid for it with 139 00:12:18,560 --> 00:12:24,220 impact fees and so it was just so because we look yeah it's getting it's getting 140 00:12:24,220 --> 00:12:33,020 like right since it's been a fairly dry get it yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah 141 00:12:33,020 --> 00:12:35,900 yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah because that's a dream right now but I was getting 142 00:12:35,900 --> 00:12:39,560 extended out and yeah yeah but I knew it's the way you're crossing up to 143 00:12:39,560 --> 00:12:45,260 resources that are widening the shoulders and that's section with it yeah it's going to 144 00:12:45,260 --> 00:12:49,360 time we get a lot to do this on well we kind of started off the subject care. 145 00:12:49,740 --> 00:12:53,500 Yeah, I'm sure I'm sure I'm not even going to speak. 146 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:54,280 I'm not even going to speak. 147 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:56,320 It was a second. 148 00:12:56,860 --> 00:12:57,940 I'm going to discuss. 149 00:12:58,680 --> 00:13:00,780 It was like this, yes, I'm actually. 150 00:13:02,660 --> 00:13:05,080 All right, so. 151 00:13:05,700 --> 00:13:09,200 Next item is public hearings of which they're known. 152 00:13:09,640 --> 00:13:13,360 General business action items discussion and consideration of approval. 153 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:22,520 We have none, and we move on to the big item, which is workshop, and Henry's done a good job 154 00:13:22,520 --> 00:13:24,260 for me to give us information. 155 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:30,700 I think we have a couple of red line documents here, and I guess it might be easy. 156 00:13:30,920 --> 00:13:33,840 It's just the term to go to the end room and have them walk us through this. 157 00:13:34,480 --> 00:13:37,080 So, you look at me with the threshold. 158 00:13:37,080 --> 00:13:48,240 I know, I don't think anything is going to be ready for public hearing on the 24th, so we want to surprise you. 159 00:13:49,200 --> 00:13:56,880 I think it's something like a rock wall, right? And so you've got a bunch of different rocks. 160 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:02,340 that make the wall. And one of those rocks is the county, 161 00:14:02,540 --> 00:14:04,300 ladies and gentlemen, ladies and gentlemen, 162 00:14:04,560 --> 00:14:08,020 that's the largest part of state code. You have the county 163 00:14:08,020 --> 00:14:13,100 ladies code section eight, which will become section two with the new 164 00:14:13,100 --> 00:14:19,780 code update. You have the bylaws. And if you just stack those, 165 00:14:20,460 --> 00:14:23,880 it doesn't wall, but to make a really good wall, and you have the 166 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:31,840 in between, which is the Robert's rules of order, so Robert's rules are the default, if you 167 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:36,560 know kind of anything other. So if you get by-laws, it defaults by-laws, it's got the code, 168 00:14:36,800 --> 00:14:41,900 defaults code, state code, defaults the state code, and then when you've got a question, it's not 169 00:14:42,540 --> 00:14:52,940 just spell out there, probably the order is the mortar in the swall. And so I went through 170 00:14:52,940 --> 00:14:59,840 all this with, well, hey, I'm just going to do a little primer. 171 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:14,540 On Robert's rules of order, and run our code to them, or bylaws to them, and our more problems, 172 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:25,000 to the human problems with this all, I guess. And then that brought up some other inconsistencies with the code. 173 00:15:25,700 --> 00:15:30,140 And so it's difficult, we'll go through this, we'll get far through as we can. 174 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:37,980 But I don't think we'll be ready for public hearing on the 24th, but that's up to you enough to me. 175 00:15:38,860 --> 00:15:40,400 Well, let's just give it a shot. 176 00:15:41,320 --> 00:15:53,640 Yeah, yeah, things like, in one section it says that you should have at least one, but not more than three planning commissioners who are replaced every year. 177 00:15:53,640 --> 00:16:00,980 Yeah. Well, then that hasn't been followed for a while. The Bible has, first of all, 178 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:05,100 we updated every year, but they haven't been updated since 2021. So, what's happened in the last 179 00:16:05,100 --> 00:16:12,240 five years and even lots happened just in May of this year, it was stay code. But anyway, just, 180 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:18,640 so every kind of has an expectation of the problem I couldn't able to accomplish. So, these are 181 00:16:18,640 --> 00:16:28,440 of things to look over and see because there's a question on portal, right, which we have 182 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:34,900 done in idle and all in the past, if you've had a problem on filling vacant dining commission 183 00:16:34,900 --> 00:16:48,620 C, since last time we had way more applicants than we have positions for, but I know that 184 00:16:49,740 --> 00:16:57,600 What happens with the appointed is, yeah, some number that are appointed and what constitutes 185 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:03,460 a core and what constitutes being able to pass the measure, so all the stuff's discussed 186 00:17:03,460 --> 00:17:13,700 because there may be some time when someone's term expires or someone resigns in between the media 187 00:17:13,700 --> 00:17:21,240 resigned in the meeting before the kind of commission fills that seat. You may have six seats or 188 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:26,060 you may have five seats or whatever. So just need to figure out how that's via handle the 189 00:17:26,060 --> 00:17:37,280 head of the tenant. Anyway, just jump right into this as far as you want to go. So in this, 190 00:17:37,280 --> 00:17:50,440 on this go through the staff report on discussion items, a new, again, Lands Code 8 is going to 191 00:17:50,440 --> 00:18:04,300 come to Lands 2 in the new code. We have a mobile and retrieval, 8.1.3F, and by the way, there's 192 00:18:04,300 --> 00:18:15,010 about if the ordinances that have not been updated into the e-code system, so if you go 193 00:18:15,010 --> 00:18:21,830 the code online, it's 50 ordinances behind and you can't find the ones that are 194 00:18:21,830 --> 00:18:22,210 gone. 195 00:18:22,610 --> 00:18:24,070 Yeah, yes. 196 00:18:24,470 --> 00:18:24,890 Yes. 197 00:18:25,470 --> 00:18:26,670 I don't know. 198 00:18:26,790 --> 00:18:35,250 Yeah, it hasn't been updated since 2023, 2022, I've access to some of those, but what 199 00:18:35,250 --> 00:18:43,710 for instance, 709, which is the repeal in a place of section 6, the oldies code, but with 200 00:18:43,710 --> 00:18:52,170 the feature of the oldies code of Spanish valid, and exists. So they just had the redesign that 201 00:18:52,170 --> 00:18:57,970 last week, because it's nowhere to be found. I mean, you can find it in a minute to that meeting, 202 00:18:57,970 --> 00:19:07,130 but not assigned copy is how we just had that one from the minutes of meeting and just had that sign. 203 00:19:08,610 --> 00:19:16,470 So just in a phone room, or in a mess of ways, we're also, we have 50 ordinances in play. 204 00:19:16,850 --> 00:19:26,430 And some of them don't mean anything, you know, like a decent piece schedule or salary of elected officials, 205 00:19:26,430 --> 00:19:31,310 some of those things though, but we'd just select some of those that somehow related to 206 00:19:31,310 --> 00:19:34,730 the time commission, printed that, and certainly those, but there's about 50. 207 00:19:38,070 --> 00:19:43,630 The 8-1.3F that you're talking about is basically a state reserve of 15. 208 00:19:45,750 --> 00:19:54,850 Yeah, so they changed the state law in the, they just adopted in May of this year, which added four different 209 00:19:54,850 --> 00:20:00,930 things, and the renewable, the diesel that's required by state law to have this in there, and 210 00:20:00,930 --> 00:20:08,650 the ads, the causes for renewable need to be listed, and then also that if we're talking 211 00:20:08,650 --> 00:20:16,450 about things here in the planning commission that you can't be removed from the planning 212 00:20:16,450 --> 00:20:24,430 commission, because you talked to Lynn Riggled about, I don't know, right? So it's with 213 00:20:24,430 --> 00:20:27,910 the safe harbor of the Planning Commission. And then, uh, 214 00:20:30,260 --> 00:20:34,940 so those were in the minutes, we 215 00:20:34,940 --> 00:20:36,640 were listed in the area, 216 00:20:50,180 --> 00:20:53,640 8.1.3F 217 00:20:56,110 --> 00:20:59,010 by the Planning Commission member, and maybe the room for the 218 00:20:59,010 --> 00:21:02,850 commission for cause by two groups vote of the county commission by our 219 00:21:02,850 --> 00:21:07,570 graduation at the point of turn. Before the open member shall be given written 220 00:21:07,570 --> 00:21:13,310 notice of cause and opportunity respond. The opportunity to respond is you need to 221 00:21:13,310 --> 00:21:19,450 grant county that's in the previous code. So we just kept that that issued are 222 00:21:20,410 --> 00:21:25,450 fifth. That's not a part of the state of return. Yeah, yeah, but that gives you 223 00:21:25,450 --> 00:21:27,470 It gives a point to wish for those of other programs. 224 00:21:27,970 --> 00:21:29,410 The ability to respond. 225 00:21:29,990 --> 00:21:33,750 It is to be in a just majority of the solutions. 226 00:21:34,150 --> 00:21:35,190 It's even more rigorous. 227 00:21:35,750 --> 00:21:36,370 We'll do that again. 228 00:21:37,910 --> 00:21:39,370 Cost for the levels. 229 00:21:40,310 --> 00:21:45,250 Costs, for which, remember, we used it on page 18 of 29. 230 00:21:46,390 --> 00:21:49,730 In material that was sent to you. 231 00:21:52,140 --> 00:21:54,660 Using public funds for a local purpose, 232 00:21:54,660 --> 00:22:06,340 under L-20A-11 Part 12, that's a local activities act, and then violating the provision of 233 00:22:06,340 --> 00:22:12,860 an Act, well, Hamilton, Chapter 3, Part 13, Municipal Officers, and Employees, Epics, and Pat. 234 00:22:14,920 --> 00:22:22,220 When they're making a part for the state, for the county code, they copied and paste the part 235 00:22:22,220 --> 00:22:25,340 for the municipal code. So it's actually in code. 236 00:22:25,640 --> 00:22:29,580 I sent email last week to do that. 237 00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:35,660 Association of Countries, and just ask them if this is going to be changed or not, because there is a 238 00:22:35,660 --> 00:22:41,360 section in state code that deals with the counties, but it's just black in there, because that's off 239 00:22:41,360 --> 00:22:47,980 state and state code. Acting with the intent to influence a land use decision or an appeal of a 240 00:22:47,980 --> 00:22:55,680 pending land use application, the manner that creates actual, impromisible bias. I think that's something 241 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,160 that we're going to have to ask the attorney to think 242 00:22:58,160 --> 00:23:00,640 of the definition of impromiscible bias. 243 00:23:01,620 --> 00:23:04,480 And then the liberation is not possible in the role. 244 00:23:04,860 --> 00:23:08,160 And it retains all, a member shall refuse himself or herself 245 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,500 from participating in commenting on or voting 246 00:23:11,500 --> 00:23:14,880 on a land use application when the member has a conflict 247 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:17,780 of interest under tiny officers and employees 248 00:23:17,780 --> 00:23:21,240 ethics provision or game category ordinance 462. 249 00:23:21,520 --> 00:23:23,720 When the member has a personal or financial interest 250 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,780 the application or when the members participation would create actual 251 00:23:27,780 --> 00:23:33,080 informational bias or an unacceptable risk of improper assault bias in a 252 00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:40,820 administrative or quasi-dition manner. And much on terms, do you want 253 00:23:40,820 --> 00:23:47,680 to go to the staff or just go through all of the businesses start with the 254 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:51,120 cream, a red line of the day and can include me just go through each part of that 255 00:23:51,120 --> 00:23:58,500 it still helps. You know, the most complete way would be to just walk through the entire document. 256 00:23:58,820 --> 00:24:05,840 Yeah, I think that's the end and walk. Yep. Yeah, so just as we do, and I think we'll be good at 257 00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:10,900 pieces of the main comments that they have issues that want to see amendments. And if they do, let's 258 00:24:10,900 --> 00:24:15,760 paint them on the floor. Yep. So let's go into the 8.1.2. 259 00:24:17,180 --> 00:24:19,680 And you're on page 29. 260 00:24:31,130 --> 00:24:31,170 Yeah. 261 00:24:31,510 --> 00:24:39,650 This will change is to that, which is in this addendum, because again, we are giving 262 00:24:39,650 --> 00:24:46,090 into balancing the land use code with the state code, with the bylaws, and then that 263 00:24:46,090 --> 00:24:47,890 perspective, additional changes. 264 00:24:47,890 --> 00:24:56,090 but basically, in 8.1.2, we're adding in the blue underwear and text added red strike through 265 00:24:56,090 --> 00:25:01,530 is deleted. The planning commission has no legislative authority as to the general planning 266 00:25:01,530 --> 00:25:06,050 amendments that didn't plan amendments to this code. The planning commission reviews and makes 267 00:25:06,050 --> 00:25:12,450 recommendations for the game, to the county commission, which alone may end up. The planning commission 268 00:25:12,450 --> 00:25:18,450 tax as the land use authority only as to those specific application, this could assign 269 00:25:18,450 --> 00:25:23,310 fewer and not as to an application list code of science and not always this authority 270 00:25:23,310 --> 00:25:29,270 and including the administrative land use authority designated in 8.5. The 271 00:25:29,270 --> 00:25:34,310 seasonal planning commission acting as the land use authority is an administrative act. 272 00:25:34,310 --> 00:25:37,630 Now, going through the code, 273 00:25:40,060 --> 00:25:45,520 there's nothing that is assigned to the 10-intermission as the final authority. 274 00:25:46,340 --> 00:25:59,240 There's 16 different land use things, and it's in the 10-intermission, it's staff, or it's the pill authority or administrative judge. 275 00:25:59,940 --> 00:26:13,880 It's certainly to be changed a bit and then there's also six places in the land use code where it just says Commission. 276 00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:20,900 And it doesn't say plan and commission or commission, but in reading it, it looks like it's kind of commission. 277 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:28,000 Okay, so we've got that one and I don't know if you just want to go through all the things or if you want to ask us. 278 00:26:28,120 --> 00:26:29,920 We should just keep it over through these. 279 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:33,560 Okay, and that's something that's not something that's been changed. 280 00:26:33,780 --> 00:26:36,400 So if you look at this and I did them. 281 00:26:36,620 --> 00:26:40,940 It's actually going to change that 8.12 to the public commission as a advisory board. 282 00:26:41,260 --> 00:26:46,300 It's not the land use authority for any land use applications and hold no legislative authority. 283 00:26:46,300 --> 00:26:51,060 The Commission reviews applications and proposals referred to with the polls, 284 00:26:51,060 --> 00:26:52,120 following carrying this framework, 285 00:26:52,300 --> 00:26:54,300 or it makes recommendations to the Commission. 286 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:56,160 Together with the other D.D. 287 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:57,300 described at 8.14, 288 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:03,900 led its 34 each application type of the sign in 9.15 and 8.5. 289 00:27:04,500 --> 00:27:07,460 In this case, would you add planning commission, 290 00:27:07,740 --> 00:27:10,240 the word, planning, and run over the commission? 291 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:12,480 Because I think that's again, 292 00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:15,320 we're trying to be planning a good way to clarify for sure. 293 00:27:15,320 --> 00:27:22,040 clear everything out. I like that. It should take 90 minutes to go to the point in this. Andrew, 294 00:27:22,320 --> 00:27:29,280 you came up with the proposed text, right? Yes, I believe. And I actually, I like you 295 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:35,740 worrying the way it is, I might, I could easily change my mind, quite an information access 296 00:27:35,740 --> 00:27:40,640 to land use authority only in those specific applications of the code that they're assigned to it. 297 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:46,400 The nice thing about that, even if it's never assigned to us, is that if it was assigned to us, 298 00:27:47,140 --> 00:27:52,400 we wouldn't come back and change this document. So, you know, I think this is clear, 299 00:27:53,160 --> 00:28:01,860 and then it's nice that if they ever assigned us anything, you know, I think about that. 300 00:28:01,860 --> 00:28:08,020 Yeah. And I think it's kind of like, it's going to be like, grenade. She's so. 301 00:28:08,780 --> 00:28:12,360 Right. So it's become later. 302 00:28:13,060 --> 00:28:14,340 That's going to be a lot of okay. 303 00:28:14,560 --> 00:28:16,600 Here's the moment, what they've been doing. 304 00:28:17,300 --> 00:28:18,080 No more. 305 00:28:18,320 --> 00:28:19,260 It is for me. 306 00:28:19,360 --> 00:28:19,620 It's a brain. 307 00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:20,200 It's a brain. 308 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:20,760 It's a brain. 309 00:28:20,980 --> 00:28:22,320 It's a brain. 310 00:28:22,620 --> 00:28:23,140 It's a brain. 311 00:28:24,100 --> 00:28:24,900 We can do that. 312 00:28:25,140 --> 00:28:25,900 But check all right. 313 00:28:27,120 --> 00:28:29,280 8.1.3. 314 00:28:31,020 --> 00:28:57,220 And this is, so we've got the planning commission and system of seven members should be pointed by the kind of commission in addition to seven regular members, the kind of commission may choose a point one or more and we're taking out ex officio leading in are placing what the A's on and then taking out a liaison and just bringing those the A's on. 315 00:28:57,220 --> 00:29:03,380 between the kind of commission of planning commission LIAs on the board does not count toward the quorum in a vote. 316 00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:10,860 Here's the thing, ex officio means by right of office. 317 00:29:12,820 --> 00:29:21,840 So we could say the vice chair of the county commission is an ex officio member of the planning commission. 318 00:29:21,840 --> 00:29:27,180 and they would be on X-Fishio, they can vote, they can do everything, they can make motion, 319 00:29:27,440 --> 00:29:35,800 second motion, they can vote all that as an X-Fishio. However, we say that X-Fishio, 320 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:40,640 we call it X-Fishio slash the A-Zon, and the A-Zon is something completely different. 321 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:49,980 That's the person who goes back and forth like we have here or that brings back the 322 00:29:49,980 --> 00:29:58,340 you have to be right and so we just try to clarify that it's not an ex officio because if it's 323 00:29:58,340 --> 00:29:59,960 an ex officio that means like 324 00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:07,320 If you could always be the vice chair of the kind of commission, but this is, we asons are appointed 325 00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:17,460 excess officials are by right of that office. So, usually by code, they're usually written in by 326 00:30:17,460 --> 00:30:23,200 code, so they have to answer that. Yeah, that's in there. Right. That's an ex officio. But we, and the areas 327 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:29,320 don't do not that I know of and I've asked for it and in this situation the two which is 328 00:30:30,260 --> 00:30:35,040 my problem is I don't have an issue with two here as long as that's in code and that's 329 00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:40,460 qualified we know and we're not gonna have or one or two if they're supposed to be two then there's 330 00:30:40,460 --> 00:30:45,400 got to be two if they're supposed to be seven is got to be seven of us if we're supposed to have 331 00:30:45,400 --> 00:30:52,120 a quorum with four that's the number there's no only that five tonight so it's three no no we don't do 332 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:58,520 that, okay? You don't do that to an empire and this is the rule book. This is our rule book. 333 00:30:58,640 --> 00:31:06,600 In my opinion, this has to say one or two, not or more, by the council's win. That's not fair. 334 00:31:07,020 --> 00:31:12,960 It's not fair to her, him or anybody on this board, all of a sudden, we give them a liaison. 335 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:18,040 Well, now we got three, and the next thing I know, they didn't like what we were doing. So they said 336 00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:31,560 number four down here. Oh, that got a lot of corn. And we can go. That's my point. You see that. So I think and if they don't come from 337 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:39,260 on it, it has to come from the county and they have to fuck up and give us a rule. It wonders it too. 338 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:43,800 Which is it? But the way this is working is we're going to draw this something that we're going to 339 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:49,620 the county and they can do it. If they want to change it, they can change it. But what we send 340 00:31:49,620 --> 00:31:55,200 to them is got to be what we as a group vote in approval. Okay, so if you want to 341 00:31:55,200 --> 00:32:01,420 submit that time saying, my opinion of these given a number, it's a number. It's a number. 342 00:32:01,420 --> 00:32:05,960 So having a decision to deal with one of them we want to proceed. I think that most of these 343 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:12,960 are pretty much not a lot of hope. If we've got an area of disagreement, my take is let's result 344 00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:21,400 down. Sure. And I would say it is the rulebook. But if it's the rulebook said one or two, that's the rule. 345 00:32:21,860 --> 00:32:27,960 Yeah. I just agree with Brandy, but we should probably, I think, decide it. 346 00:32:28,580 --> 00:32:34,960 Fine. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. All right. I'll make a motion that we say one. 347 00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:42,740 We don't have to take more. Okay. Okay, we can do a straw full on any settings. 348 00:32:43,260 --> 00:32:44,220 What is it? We're not full. 349 00:32:45,060 --> 00:32:45,520 Get the ball. 350 00:32:45,620 --> 00:32:46,360 It's a tool. 351 00:32:46,700 --> 00:32:49,220 What do you want me to bring back next time? 352 00:32:49,380 --> 00:32:49,640 Yes. 353 00:32:49,900 --> 00:32:50,540 That's just a word. 354 00:32:51,040 --> 00:32:52,420 We've got no. 355 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:53,820 On that. 356 00:32:54,500 --> 00:32:56,420 Because we have, 357 00:32:56,460 --> 00:32:58,960 where we talked about the amount of 358 00:32:59,800 --> 00:33:01,500 on the commission members listed, 359 00:33:01,500 --> 00:33:04,780 and there's multiple options for it. 360 00:33:05,020 --> 00:33:07,120 What if we say one more two? 361 00:33:07,300 --> 00:33:09,000 Because then that offers the option 362 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:11,960 if the commission decides that they no longer want 363 00:33:11,960 --> 00:33:14,780 two liaison's here, then it's already specified 364 00:33:14,780 --> 00:33:16,460 that we have one. 365 00:33:16,520 --> 00:33:18,540 And it's trying to pull that they, 366 00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,520 like I think that we just say one or two. 367 00:33:21,640 --> 00:33:23,300 And we're two to bring back. 368 00:33:24,100 --> 00:33:24,240 Yeah. 369 00:33:24,560 --> 00:33:24,840 Okay. 370 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,040 I'll just bring that right. 371 00:33:28,040 --> 00:33:29,360 What do we vote on there? 372 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:30,180 Thank you. 373 00:33:30,860 --> 00:33:35,780 Well, yeah, we have two suggestions here. One was Randy's will just to change it to one, even 374 00:33:35,780 --> 00:33:41,740 everyone. Now Randy, the only downside for my point of view is the kind of commission gets to decide 375 00:33:41,740 --> 00:33:47,700 and they've already told us that it's to. So one's free having giving me anything and 376 00:33:47,700 --> 00:33:52,680 writing that they did that. No, but they assigned us that. There's two of them here. So it's 377 00:33:52,680 --> 00:33:56,920 obvious that somebody thinks there has to be. And they were directed to be here by the kind of commission. 378 00:33:56,920 --> 00:34:07,920 All right, you're right, I'm still injured and I'm right because that's okay. There's no war and it's already given me that and there's no rule, Sarah, okay, and there's no rule. 379 00:34:08,260 --> 00:34:25,500 What is like the traditional practice like all the other airport board and all the other boards, they all have just one, you know, 380 00:34:25,500 --> 00:34:28,960 So places people can go and go and go and go and read the numbers. 381 00:34:29,580 --> 00:34:31,540 We don't only want that as to liaison. 382 00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:33,460 No, we're going to go and go. 383 00:34:33,700 --> 00:34:36,180 How's it as for us, because it was. 384 00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:38,200 But are they all? 385 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:43,740 But is that because the housing subcommittee is in the option on the, okay, okay. 386 00:34:43,860 --> 00:34:44,220 So that's going. 387 00:34:44,340 --> 00:34:44,740 Yeah, yeah. 388 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,400 There's a couple of other things. 389 00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:47,760 Where are you? 390 00:34:47,800 --> 00:34:48,280 Over here. 391 00:34:48,420 --> 00:34:50,740 Look at the sheet that we have. 392 00:34:51,020 --> 00:34:51,380 Oh, yeah. 393 00:34:52,140 --> 00:34:53,920 That's a normal water for all. 394 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,440 Yeah, that's a good question. 395 00:34:56,900 --> 00:34:57,780 That's a good question. 396 00:34:57,780 --> 00:34:58,200 That's a good question. 397 00:34:58,760 --> 00:34:59,720 Yeah, that's a good question. 398 00:34:59,720 --> 00:35:00,700 How do you do it? 399 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,220 There's all kinds of different. 400 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,900 I guess it's really three options. 401 00:35:06,580 --> 00:35:11,660 That we're probably discussing one, two or one or two. 402 00:35:12,060 --> 00:35:14,420 I mean, I mean, it's, again, say one or two. 403 00:35:14,820 --> 00:35:20,000 And the reason is sometimes counter-commission may have people who say 404 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,140 I really would like to be on a planning commission. 405 00:35:22,140 --> 00:35:27,640 sometimes we're going to have to drag somebody down here and they'll drag it by saying 406 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:33,100 watch. So I think it gives them the flexibility and there are two people who are interested, 407 00:35:33,740 --> 00:35:40,200 I think it's great to have them here. So let's do a struggle with that being said, 408 00:35:41,060 --> 00:35:45,340 oh, withdraw my, you know, because my motion, my book is my opinion. 409 00:35:45,340 --> 00:35:47,800 just with dry pain. 410 00:35:47,900 --> 00:35:48,340 Sorry. 411 00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:52,700 Everybody in favor of one or two. 412 00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:54,760 We're going to move on. 413 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:56,160 Let's move on. 414 00:35:56,240 --> 00:35:58,480 For even ex officio and adding. 415 00:35:59,020 --> 00:36:00,220 Keep ladies on. 416 00:36:02,580 --> 00:36:03,660 The OECIM. 417 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:04,220 Thanks. 418 00:36:05,240 --> 00:36:05,340 Thank you. 419 00:36:05,860 --> 00:36:08,300 Thank you. 420 00:36:09,500 --> 00:36:11,700 I'll have to take him out for a beer. 421 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:14,340 I drank that. 422 00:36:14,340 --> 00:36:18,700 I know I'm going to do something I'm going to do for a day off. 423 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:22,120 You know what I'm going to do? 424 00:36:22,120 --> 00:36:24,000 It's like, it's not here. 425 00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,460 All the apple beer is sold out when I come the first day. 426 00:36:29,620 --> 00:36:32,600 So then we go to this, 427 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,820 a substantial term of office rate. 428 00:36:36,320 --> 00:36:40,320 And so the council is term of office. 429 00:36:41,320 --> 00:36:45,040 at least one and no more than three members 430 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:50,320 expired each year, but then passed it. 431 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:59,080 We have Commissioner O'Brien and Commissioner Place. 432 00:38:00,100 --> 00:38:06,540 are the three you'd do? can you house moisture going to have less than four year term moist in that? 433 00:38:06,540 --> 00:38:16,020 That one pointse it up. Then first on where's the, and then you're gonna go look where the site was, we'd always was. 434 00:38:16,160 --> 00:38:19,840 If somebody always was on that moment, change, what happened? 435 00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:23,240 probably a time when too many people would point out. 436 00:38:24,540 --> 00:38:28,920 yeah, perhaps somebody just screwed up and somebody else on this, 437 00:38:31,440 --> 00:38:32,960 It's always been annoying. 438 00:38:33,860 --> 00:38:35,380 I don't know if it affects it, wouldn't it? 439 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:43,020 I affect the time I said if I need to fix it, I'll be the one that would lead that back time so that it can fix it. 440 00:38:43,260 --> 00:38:44,980 Instead, don't give me a five year. 441 00:38:45,340 --> 00:38:45,460 I don't care. 442 00:38:47,240 --> 00:38:48,200 I don't care. 443 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:48,720 I don't care. 444 00:38:49,280 --> 00:38:49,940 I don't care. 445 00:38:50,340 --> 00:38:50,900 I don't care. 446 00:38:50,900 --> 00:38:51,740 I don't care. 447 00:38:52,060 --> 00:38:52,640 I don't care. 448 00:38:52,640 --> 00:38:54,560 I don't care. 449 00:38:54,980 --> 00:38:56,660 Out of the next. 450 00:38:58,280 --> 00:39:03,700 Howdy staff needs to notify the kind of commission in September of each year that a term 451 00:39:03,700 --> 00:39:08,980 expires, this will be done, and you have to note out there, et cetera. 452 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:14,660 A liaison member shall be elected by the kind of commission which I'll continue to serve as 453 00:39:14,660 --> 00:39:21,120 over in place by appointment again, the A's on a set of ex officio, when they down to 454 00:39:22,600 --> 00:39:34,060 the removal just goes back to the state code and those things are listed there, and then the 455 00:39:34,060 --> 00:39:41,420 problem there, the chair and vice chair shall be elected annually as the first item of business, 456 00:39:41,860 --> 00:39:50,840 the first regular meeting of each calendar year. What that said before was that there are 457 00:39:50,840 --> 00:40:00,060 elected each the first year after there's a change to the planning commission. But then what 458 00:40:00,060 --> 00:40:06,380 that means is there's to be two-year term, Chair and Vice Chair would serve two years because 459 00:40:06,380 --> 00:40:11,220 you wouldn't have real access for the Chair, Vice Chair, unless there were changes in the planning 460 00:40:11,220 --> 00:40:16,460 commission, the planning commission, you don't have a change in every year on the sort of changes 461 00:40:16,460 --> 00:40:26,360 and I think the reason it reached that way is that there was a time. It actually happened 462 00:40:26,360 --> 00:40:34,840 because the person who was chair had a secret valid thing that I've always been on before 463 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:42,120 the people who were going to join the Planning Commission. It got set up to the County Commission 464 00:40:42,120 --> 00:40:50,880 who said, we would like to know who voted for whom, but we then had our first meeting of 465 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:58,980 the year without our new members in place, so this may have to be read in a different way. 466 00:40:59,620 --> 00:41:06,200 If we had had the rule under this new thing you do it at the first meeting, we wouldn't have 467 00:41:06,200 --> 00:41:16,480 people who were new get to vote on the chair and vice chair because because of that bad head of 468 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:22,220 the planning commission having that secret ballot they were they want they did not want to appoint 469 00:41:22,220 --> 00:41:28,340 those people to the saw who voted for them and I think that was the right decision it's 470 00:41:28,340 --> 00:41:30,900 the reason we ought to always do it. 471 00:41:31,100 --> 00:41:34,720 My voice will be able to be able to go into that soon. 472 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,780 So I don't know how we want to change, 473 00:41:37,300 --> 00:41:42,180 but maybe we want to look to make sure something like that 474 00:41:42,180 --> 00:41:44,920 doesn't happen again, for instance, meeting guests 475 00:41:44,920 --> 00:41:47,720 canceled by the County Commission, 476 00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,200 or some reason because the electricity goes out 477 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:50,780 or something. 478 00:41:54,510 --> 00:41:54,550 Yeah. 479 00:41:54,550 --> 00:41:55,910 It's very new in a question. 480 00:41:55,930 --> 00:41:57,670 Why, by the question about that, 481 00:41:57,670 --> 00:41:58,750 and then I have a certain question. 482 00:41:58,750 --> 00:42:06,070 It seems like in here there were several things written about paper votes and you had a strong 483 00:42:06,070 --> 00:42:06,550 vote. 484 00:42:06,810 --> 00:42:08,650 So when that take care of that? 485 00:42:09,110 --> 00:42:13,910 So now we wouldn't have paper votes and that particular problem wouldn't happen. 486 00:42:14,390 --> 00:42:14,510 It right. 487 00:42:14,910 --> 00:42:22,330 I don't think that a problem would not happen, but if any other problem happened, then the commission 488 00:42:22,330 --> 00:42:25,490 meeting, the county commission, maybe not to happen. 489 00:42:26,070 --> 00:42:30,190 So I'm not very adamant, obviously. So yesterday's the reason it was in there. 490 00:42:30,730 --> 00:42:38,030 The thing that you don't want to happen is left over people who are at their terms are expiring. 491 00:42:39,410 --> 00:42:44,570 They vote for a new chair, the vice chair, it should be. 492 00:42:44,570 --> 00:42:48,490 Yeah, the nudging seated, convincing as a whole makes that. 493 00:42:48,490 --> 00:42:57,570 And we'll try to figure if they don't appoint somebody in December and then we go to six and then we go to five or whatever, you know, could. 494 00:42:57,870 --> 00:42:58,970 Well, I definitely five. 495 00:42:59,070 --> 00:43:04,170 So item two here says that the former members remain by the planning question. 496 00:43:04,590 --> 00:43:04,890 I don't know. 497 00:43:05,370 --> 00:43:06,410 I don't know. 498 00:43:06,430 --> 00:43:07,350 I don't know. 499 00:43:07,770 --> 00:43:09,810 But that's going to be the thing. 500 00:43:09,810 --> 00:43:18,450 If we know somebody's been, they say, hey, 501 00:43:18,450 --> 00:43:35,170 I don't think it matters a great deal, even if it's left with this 40, I mean, at the old commissioners would put in the chair and the vice chair, and we'd move on and it's not likely to happen. 502 00:43:35,610 --> 00:43:38,030 If there was an easy word to make yourself, it'd be nice. 503 00:43:38,030 --> 00:43:49,030 And, you know, because then, you can have the next meeting with the new members and they can decide the editor, chair, to my chair. They can do that. 504 00:43:50,030 --> 00:43:53,910 I mean, if you remove the chair by 1830, 505 00:43:54,090 --> 00:43:55,490 I'm not sure if that's not a lot of that. 506 00:43:55,810 --> 00:43:56,610 It was audit bills. 507 00:43:57,670 --> 00:43:58,010 Yes. 508 00:43:58,010 --> 00:43:59,630 And I was going in. 509 00:43:59,650 --> 00:44:04,210 I talked about this last time that the chair and vice chair 510 00:44:04,210 --> 00:44:07,890 would be elected as the last item at the first regular 511 00:44:07,890 --> 00:44:08,170 me. 512 00:44:08,310 --> 00:44:11,470 So that the chair would conduct the business. 513 00:44:12,750 --> 00:44:14,050 So we did. 514 00:44:14,150 --> 00:44:14,550 We did. 515 00:44:14,690 --> 00:44:16,670 But then, so what happened? 516 00:44:16,670 --> 00:44:20,850 Like what happened last year was Commissioner Kuso, 517 00:44:23,510 --> 00:44:29,170 his term was up, and he didn't want to continue on. 518 00:44:29,610 --> 00:44:37,850 So then what would we have at the beginning of the meeting, we would have to do our report without having a chair in place and tell a last item. 519 00:44:38,290 --> 00:44:39,110 But that first meeting. 520 00:44:39,710 --> 00:44:42,210 So we want to make sure that we have a chair advisory base. 521 00:44:42,510 --> 00:44:43,370 Yeah, okay. 522 00:44:44,090 --> 00:44:44,570 That's enough. 523 00:44:44,570 --> 00:44:46,630 Yeah, I think it makes sense. 524 00:44:46,830 --> 00:44:48,010 So do you like that trick? 525 00:44:48,450 --> 00:44:48,610 No. 526 00:44:49,090 --> 00:44:49,770 Wait a sec. 527 00:44:50,510 --> 00:44:50,750 Yeah. 528 00:44:51,050 --> 00:44:51,370 Oh, yeah. 529 00:44:51,450 --> 00:44:52,850 Now I understand why it was. 530 00:44:52,990 --> 00:44:54,190 Because we didn't just talk to all that. 531 00:44:54,310 --> 00:44:54,530 Yeah. 532 00:44:54,850 --> 00:44:55,170 Yeah. 533 00:44:56,330 --> 00:44:58,610 Because we're going back and catching the bylaws, 534 00:44:58,750 --> 00:44:59,750 but then the bylaws. 535 00:45:00,000 --> 00:45:02,660 Should have been that way, should be this way? 536 00:45:02,680 --> 00:45:10,020 Yeah. Okay, for me, I'm happy to be part of figure out whatever word you might word in, about those situations. 537 00:45:10,580 --> 00:45:11,640 I've got a lot of answers. 538 00:45:12,620 --> 00:45:12,800 Yeah. 539 00:45:13,540 --> 00:45:16,480 I've got an aspect by that, so I'll try to figure it out. 540 00:45:17,640 --> 00:45:19,060 Sure, Mr. Chairperson. 541 00:45:20,440 --> 00:45:21,740 We're on the page 17. 542 00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:22,940 Yes, I'm sorry. 543 00:45:22,940 --> 00:45:31,740 bit the one chairman to your person and then so responsible and the county was actually responsible 544 00:45:31,740 --> 00:45:38,820 with the county through the planning department to record the minutes and I do that so I really 545 00:45:38,820 --> 00:45:46,840 like all these is doing that and I think before there could be a lot of subjectivity will get 546 00:45:46,840 --> 00:45:53,440 to do so to do. So to do it into the minutes written in a way that if you listen to the 547 00:45:53,980 --> 00:45:59,120 actually the video, it would be something completely different. Like I'll be even at the same 548 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:03,920 meeting, so. I was mentioning that in a first-class relationship. I think that's all we can manage 549 00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:09,840 a concise, they're all points. They say we go to provide, and we're done a bunch of stuff, 550 00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:16,100 that we don't need. The more concise in this can be, I'm sure the better we have to defend our 551 00:46:16,100 --> 00:46:25,220 And by state law, we have to identify how each commissioner voted, so some could do that as a 552 00:46:25,220 --> 00:46:31,980 rock-hull, though, or at least I could say, chairman of the 90-year-old board, you could just say 553 00:46:32,980 --> 00:46:37,400 those in favor say I, and I'd say that, okay, that was Christopher Day, that was Christopher, 554 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:42,700 I'll find those. You know, so you can just do that. It doesn't have to be that formalty word 555 00:46:44,840 --> 00:46:49,500 That piece that would have to do at roll call just as long as I did a five-foot-foot-foot-foot-foot. 556 00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:55,220 Yes, somebody to Robert J. Williams, actually one of the roll call, and demand in the roll call, 557 00:46:55,600 --> 00:46:59,300 we call it and do it. I think the way you're going to spread that otherwise I wouldn't do it. 558 00:46:59,420 --> 00:47:02,700 And let's ask for it, then you've got to specify it. 559 00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,000 Well, continue with the current practice. 560 00:47:05,300 --> 00:47:06,400 Yes, I thought that. 561 00:47:09,250 --> 00:47:19,310 And then going down on P-13 to 9 Limbers and the public, we participate in Planning Commission meetings by real-time. 562 00:47:20,430 --> 00:47:33,030 By real-time electronic meetings, it's provided by Utah Code 504-207 in the current ordinances and policies established by the kind of commission that included in the Green County Resolution 2044. 563 00:47:33,030 --> 00:47:38,370 a member participating by real time electronic means count towards the 564 00:47:38,370 --> 00:47:46,570 core and they participate in vote. So that's a change from before where they 565 00:47:46,570 --> 00:47:51,010 weren't allowed to go and weren't considered part of the core. 566 00:47:52,130 --> 00:47:59,090 And a little more fusel, this goes back to this state code. And I think we 567 00:47:59,090 --> 00:48:05,130 this already two-thirds authority, they look, they have the safe haven of being able to discuss 568 00:48:05,130 --> 00:48:15,370 things in the panic there's a meeting without feeling like we're moved, etc. just on 569 00:48:15,370 --> 00:48:20,410 them, we could go on. And you'll make an opportunity to figure back from the county, 570 00:48:20,410 --> 00:48:24,010 Well, what's the solution on the necessary items? 571 00:48:24,070 --> 00:48:29,590 It's basically the second or places that occurs in the public cabin code. 572 00:48:29,770 --> 00:48:37,070 So Andrew, if we found out that Title 10 Chapter V Part 13 was going to get updated 573 00:48:38,330 --> 00:48:44,370 to say county officers, instead of municipal, would that require public hearing again? 574 00:48:46,110 --> 00:48:46,310 Oh, yes. 575 00:48:46,910 --> 00:48:48,410 Oh, and we adopted it. 576 00:48:49,350 --> 00:48:49,650 Yes. 577 00:48:49,650 --> 00:48:50,370 That's part of the age. 578 00:48:50,510 --> 00:48:51,390 I think it's in. 579 00:48:51,410 --> 00:48:59,610 Yes, it would, it's all, so this time, two here, it's from stay code. 580 00:49:01,450 --> 00:49:10,870 And so, if they know, change it in the social session coming up, it will be changed 581 00:49:10,870 --> 00:49:19,170 until next year, but because it is stay code, as stay code requires this to be in. 582 00:49:19,170 --> 00:49:25,910 the section of the county code that establishes the planning commission, it will garb onto 583 00:49:25,910 --> 00:49:26,930 the public dispute. 584 00:49:27,230 --> 00:49:36,990 I don't think we'd lose anything by just taking that ton of municipal officers and employees 585 00:49:36,990 --> 00:49:37,970 at fixat. 586 00:49:38,470 --> 00:49:39,590 This is the code. 587 00:49:39,590 --> 00:49:41,270 It's required to be a different from the code. 588 00:49:41,770 --> 00:49:44,730 You can't just say a ton of things after 13 or 13. 589 00:49:45,530 --> 00:49:47,270 You can't just say employees at fixat. 590 00:49:48,670 --> 00:49:53,570 No, there she says, by the way, you can prevent a penalty and check the free part, 13, 591 00:49:53,750 --> 00:49:56,570 when the civil officer is looking at the police, if I think it's an act. 592 00:49:56,770 --> 00:49:58,150 I guess we just deal with that later. 593 00:49:58,270 --> 00:49:59,930 Yeah, but we'll just take an opportunity. 594 00:50:00,130 --> 00:50:02,730 Maybe the statement said, let's say things that don't matter. 595 00:50:04,190 --> 00:50:05,890 I don't know, maybe I don't see it. 596 00:50:05,890 --> 00:50:06,610 I'm going to say the same. 597 00:50:06,730 --> 00:50:07,530 It was just like 17. 598 00:50:08,170 --> 00:50:10,950 I just said it was going to be a big deal. 599 00:50:11,550 --> 00:50:12,930 But in this case, not a big deal. 600 00:50:13,490 --> 00:50:15,410 Yeah, I'm going to take somebody in the business. 601 00:50:15,410 --> 00:50:23,490 I have a friend who's worth a slain of news, very picky, so I'm doing a lot of everything from you act. I'm going to send this to him and say, hey, do your thing. 602 00:50:25,190 --> 00:50:28,150 I don't know if I fell asleep during the year. 603 00:50:28,930 --> 00:50:35,430 But on number four on page 17, which I guess, things, that slide. 604 00:50:36,450 --> 00:50:41,450 I do where it says the majority of the appointed regular members, 605 00:50:41,450 --> 00:50:49,510 Austin, particularly according to the business. And then it says an affirmative vote of a majority 606 00:50:49,510 --> 00:50:55,090 of the appointed regular members shall be necessary to pass the motion. Did you mean members 607 00:50:55,090 --> 00:51:11,430 and attendance at the meeting? Well, no. So, because I think I did that. I think I was kind of 608 00:51:11,430 --> 00:51:18,430 If you have five people, then you can do the re-review, but I just met in number of four, it doesn't read that way. 609 00:51:20,780 --> 00:51:28,700 Yes, he is, I guess, to the core, to the inventory of the inventory of the appointed regular members of the Syrian class. 610 00:51:28,740 --> 00:51:30,940 And I might say I should be, you know, attended. 611 00:51:32,060 --> 00:51:38,160 So, this is not based off of who shows up. 612 00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:47,920 So if you have seven appointed members, but only four show up, pretty can't pass into that. 613 00:51:48,800 --> 00:51:52,900 So, but if you only have 614 00:51:56,320 --> 00:52:04,060 appointed members with two not being appointed yet, then three could pass something otherwise you could have. 615 00:52:04,060 --> 00:52:06,760 This is about a pointed member, it's not, not your. 616 00:52:07,520 --> 00:52:11,940 Because it can have a horn that can meet, but then when people 617 00:52:11,940 --> 00:52:13,440 the passing thing, right? 618 00:52:13,500 --> 00:52:16,040 So I spaced off of the buildings that are there. 619 00:52:16,820 --> 00:52:19,240 There's, there's a people in the world. 620 00:52:19,400 --> 00:52:21,160 Yeah, I know. I actually need to pay them. 621 00:52:21,980 --> 00:52:23,360 Yep. Yep. 622 00:52:23,620 --> 00:52:23,880 Come on. 623 00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:29,960 I'm on the phone on page 8, 10, 4, 3, 2, 3, 2, 3. 624 00:52:30,000 --> 00:52:51,760 Resolution, is it possible we're going to talk about that, we're not going to use all, and while that goes, we get to maintain, updating the code, businesses, 1727204, but back in November last year, 625 00:52:53,860 --> 00:53:01,420 the legislature had a special meeting, it didn't tell, at least didn't advertise it, 626 00:53:01,420 --> 00:53:12,780 well, and they changed the statute, they moved everything from 47 to 79, but most people 627 00:53:12,780 --> 00:53:17,140 were aware of it until like a pop-up sometime later, and they thought, yeah, I knew the change 628 00:53:17,140 --> 00:53:26,240 of pop-up was gone. So this is just coming into points with that Soviet 79, and when they moved 629 00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:35,540 from 27 over to 17. It's not a 9th or 9th or 9th or 2th or 2th or 2th, believe. They added some 630 00:53:35,540 --> 00:53:40,000 extra things and they took some other things out when they did it. So it wasn't this to a 631 00:53:40,000 --> 00:53:48,040 recodification to new chapter but they actually changed some things. So like in this is since 1727 to 632 00:53:48,040 --> 00:53:56,040 So for actually becomes a 17, so a 9, 403, the 404 that you're going to think you're going 633 00:53:56,040 --> 00:53:57,300 to be. 634 00:53:58,260 --> 00:54:03,680 Plus, it was, it was, it's, it's something 20, something A, I don't know what that, 635 00:54:03,980 --> 00:54:05,060 to know about A in the before. 636 00:54:05,380 --> 00:54:06,980 But anyway, we're just not thinking that. 637 00:54:08,100 --> 00:54:17,220 And if anybody wants, I can email you a 17 page document, as a crosswalk between 638 00:54:17,220 --> 00:54:21,840 And each of those, if that's something you people are like really interested, reading. 639 00:54:22,040 --> 00:54:24,200 I think we have to just, especially on the people. 640 00:54:24,920 --> 00:54:25,300 Yeah. 641 00:54:25,540 --> 00:54:25,560 Yeah. 642 00:54:25,560 --> 00:54:27,020 I don't think so. 643 00:54:27,340 --> 00:54:27,960 I think so. 644 00:54:28,680 --> 00:54:28,820 Awesome. 645 00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:30,240 We stopped right now. 646 00:54:30,440 --> 00:54:32,900 Even actually when we work off on Google. 647 00:54:33,740 --> 00:54:34,840 It's really hard. 648 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:35,380 It's hard. 649 00:54:35,380 --> 00:54:35,600 It's hard. 650 00:54:35,900 --> 00:54:36,720 It's really hard. 651 00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:37,780 It's hard to find the code. 652 00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:38,120 Yeah. 653 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:38,560 Awesome. 654 00:54:38,900 --> 00:54:39,380 Yeah. 655 00:54:39,800 --> 00:54:42,740 I know that was part of the, um, you know. 656 00:54:43,000 --> 00:54:43,240 Yep. 657 00:54:43,720 --> 00:54:45,640 I know that was part of the. 658 00:54:45,640 --> 00:54:47,580 house, crosswalk, you know, you can just 659 00:54:47,580 --> 00:54:49,260 lead it or whatever, if you want to. 660 00:54:49,420 --> 00:54:51,120 I could have any other words that it's 661 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:52,900 made it to. I'm just terrified. I just 662 00:54:52,900 --> 00:54:54,980 want to go back to four. And I want to 663 00:54:54,980 --> 00:54:58,980 put, I want to put some numbers in it. 664 00:54:59,300 --> 00:55:01,020 Majority of the regular planning 665 00:55:01,020 --> 00:55:04,520 commissions to four. So, we, I, with 666 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:08,640 a majority of us is, we have seven people. 667 00:55:09,700 --> 00:55:14,560 And the majority of us is four. And then it says 668 00:55:14,560 --> 00:55:20,860 majority of the appointed regular members shall be necessary to pass the motion. That says, 669 00:55:21,500 --> 00:55:26,960 we need four people, but that's not what the new system is going to do, right? 670 00:55:27,700 --> 00:55:32,020 Yeah, so if you've become the one that is right throughout the second page on the 671 00:55:32,020 --> 00:55:35,260 draft, there hasn't been a little there. Yep. 672 00:55:38,170 --> 00:55:41,310 So again, it's appointed regular members. 673 00:55:41,310 --> 00:55:50,170 Yeah. So if they're everywhere from seven, or maybe you got instance where you have a wholesale 674 00:55:50,910 --> 00:55:59,070 resignation and you're down to four, right? Gotcha. And so, yeah, you can quarantine at three 675 00:55:59,070 --> 00:56:06,010 and you can pass. I promise you're saying. Yeah, good. Okay. And I leave that one a lot. 676 00:56:07,130 --> 00:56:13,430 I was looking at it kind of as it varies, like I don't know what you think. 677 00:56:13,910 --> 00:56:16,570 Yeah, and so I was doing a certain thing, so I'm like, okay. 678 00:56:16,670 --> 00:56:19,350 It's a good table, so that that makes sense. 679 00:56:19,610 --> 00:56:23,590 I think certainly the same one thing, and then we'll get these things. 680 00:56:23,990 --> 00:56:28,990 The thing that kind of drew me was, it felt like I was a second son and sitting in the second page, 681 00:56:29,090 --> 00:56:30,210 what counts as a majority. 682 00:56:30,790 --> 00:56:45,630 It says that number does not move with attendance. That's the thing. Yeah, if you've got seven, six, five, or four appointed members, yep, that you still regard the sheet for a firm. 683 00:56:47,690 --> 00:56:52,650 So if you're selling a point of number four show up, every day has to go. 684 00:56:56,670 --> 00:56:58,690 I'm not sure if you're talking about that. 685 00:56:58,790 --> 00:57:02,110 The next one is D is as to conduct an annual review. 686 00:57:03,170 --> 00:57:09,410 I'm just wondering, like, forward the benefit of any new planning commissioners coming in on the future. 687 00:57:09,730 --> 00:57:14,230 Is there somewhere else that says everything we need to do annually? 688 00:57:14,230 --> 00:57:16,450 Oh, I'd love to see that. 689 00:57:16,550 --> 00:57:17,530 Good, that's a good thing, isn't it? 690 00:57:17,590 --> 00:57:19,970 Like, we have to do our by-laws. 691 00:57:20,210 --> 00:57:23,130 We have to do, we have to root for the Green County government. 692 00:57:23,310 --> 00:57:25,050 What else had a 10-sponsored bill? 693 00:57:25,070 --> 00:57:25,930 I agree here. 694 00:57:26,270 --> 00:57:26,690 I agree. 695 00:57:26,870 --> 00:57:29,150 Yeah, this one really means too, very big. 696 00:57:29,570 --> 00:57:30,490 Yeah, we've heard of it. 697 00:57:32,510 --> 00:57:34,950 That was, we thought about adding that for the by-laws 698 00:57:34,950 --> 00:57:36,670 that haven't been changed in a while. 699 00:57:36,990 --> 00:57:37,250 Oh, yeah. 700 00:57:37,650 --> 00:57:39,390 You would be, oh, how old are you? 701 00:57:39,410 --> 00:57:39,930 How old are you? 702 00:57:39,970 --> 00:57:40,590 I'll do it with me. 703 00:57:40,750 --> 00:57:42,150 Like, a lot of crosswalk or something. 704 00:57:42,150 --> 00:57:43,230 Yeah, I'll have it as well. 705 00:57:43,230 --> 00:57:45,490 I'll have it as an annual training report with solution. 706 00:57:45,810 --> 00:57:46,490 Don't those of them? 707 00:57:46,490 --> 00:57:47,230 That's absolutely. 708 00:57:47,510 --> 00:57:48,750 Yes, because we did, yeah. 709 00:57:48,750 --> 00:57:54,850 And it says there is also need like four hours of training or any sort of results. 710 00:57:55,150 --> 00:57:59,610 That's only if you're at a county in the first secret for the last. 711 00:58:00,190 --> 00:58:01,490 Very kind of is the county of the fifth. 712 00:58:02,130 --> 00:58:04,970 So you would just have that one that opened meetings. 713 00:58:05,310 --> 00:58:06,310 Lottery and that stuff. 714 00:58:06,310 --> 00:58:07,090 Yeah, that's a good thing. 715 00:58:07,250 --> 00:58:08,430 We'll do that, but together. 716 00:58:08,690 --> 00:58:09,890 Stopping to do that. 717 00:58:09,890 --> 00:58:15,810 We're doing a lot of those from Phenis, you know, we do it in one of these guys. 718 00:58:16,730 --> 00:58:17,710 What was I thinking about? 719 00:58:18,770 --> 00:58:21,210 Oh, me and Charles were sort of you. 720 00:58:21,230 --> 00:58:25,050 Phenis, but you're okay with what's going on here. 721 00:58:25,390 --> 00:58:26,410 Yeah, absolutely. 722 00:58:27,310 --> 00:58:30,010 And that sentence is very important. 723 00:58:30,870 --> 00:58:35,410 even. Got it. All right. So where we're now? I think we're 724 00:58:35,410 --> 00:58:40,530 picking the key in the key. Okay. I'm 725 00:58:40,530 --> 00:58:42,450 to review and make a recommendation to the 726 00:58:42,450 --> 00:58:45,570 kind of commission on appropriate delegation of powers. 727 00:58:46,030 --> 00:58:48,130 To at least the one that does a day-to-day delay in 728 00:58:48,130 --> 00:58:50,770 your support in the here and act on language applications 729 00:58:51,450 --> 00:58:55,070 and on an appropriate delegation of power to at least 730 00:58:55,070 --> 00:58:58,810 the one that fuel authority to hear an act on 731 00:58:58,810 --> 00:59:03,530 appeal from a decision of a land use authority. So that's what part of I say law, 732 00:59:03,570 --> 00:59:05,930 sorry, been done. What time are you? 733 00:59:06,890 --> 00:59:20,130 No. Yeah, so December 14th, 2024, the county passed or this 711, which 734 00:59:20,130 --> 00:59:25,190 paints the subdivision requirements, because they lot changed the subdivision requirements, 735 00:59:25,190 --> 00:59:31,490 And I put in timelines, et cetera, for a fast applications had to go through the process, 736 00:59:31,990 --> 00:59:40,190 but they also took away from the planning commission, the authority to the approved subdivisions, 737 00:59:40,190 --> 00:59:47,410 so we may have noticed that some of us have come before you. And so the already made that change 738 00:59:47,410 --> 00:59:57,070 that says that for single family, there's a list of three different ones. I am the final authority 739 00:59:57,070 --> 00:59:59,390 on those subdivisions. I'll ever. 740 01:00:00,140 --> 01:00:10,020 When that ordinance was adopted, it was not a repeal and replace. So it just added another chapter, 741 01:00:10,680 --> 01:00:21,040 month and tail end of that section. So we still, by policy, we still have some divisions going to a kind of commission, 742 01:00:21,040 --> 01:00:29,100 even though that's the old rules, you know, we always are just buying stuff that do that. 743 01:00:30,260 --> 01:00:37,100 And so, you've already got this in place, but it's required by stick law to say that you have to do this. 744 01:00:38,060 --> 01:00:46,700 Which is one to establish me as the land use authority for subdivisions and things like that. 745 01:00:46,700 --> 01:00:53,700 And we have a print call, is a former Attorney on Buttsman. 746 01:00:55,140 --> 01:00:56,180 Who wrote the book? 747 01:00:56,380 --> 01:00:58,160 He wrote a lot more than it can't say it. 748 01:00:58,280 --> 01:01:02,500 And we hired him as a pill authority. 749 01:01:02,680 --> 01:01:03,640 So he has a grants. 750 01:01:04,500 --> 01:01:07,500 Then we have a go to him and wait for those decisions. 751 01:01:08,380 --> 01:01:10,420 We don't have a board of adjustments. 752 01:01:10,420 --> 01:01:16,640 because some places we have, we do the administrative terms. 753 01:01:17,180 --> 01:01:20,140 So, that's basically what that means, and we already do it. 754 01:01:20,140 --> 01:01:25,220 It just has to be stated in the code that you do that, but you've already met it. 755 01:01:26,040 --> 01:01:30,800 To review a big recognition of Kelli Commission on Application Process, which may include 756 01:01:30,800 --> 01:01:36,180 the designation of a routine land, it's matters that, upon application and proper 757 01:01:36,180 --> 01:01:42,800 notice, we'll receive informal streamlined review and action. The application is uncontested 758 01:01:42,800 --> 01:01:50,000 and shall protect the right of each land use applicant and adversely affect the party to 759 01:01:50,000 --> 01:01:55,700 require formal consideration of an application by land use authority, get the pill and use 760 01:01:55,700 --> 01:02:01,340 authority decision to separate the pill authority. So we have that already, there's so many works 761 01:02:01,340 --> 01:02:02,560 appeal, decision, 762 01:02:04,660 --> 01:02:10,000 that I make, and making anything, that they go to commission, and then to 763 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:16,560 the field, I think they go to the appeal authority that judge, administrative judge upon that. 764 01:02:16,900 --> 01:02:23,520 But there are some things like miners, other lesions that we may produce for, or where it's for, 765 01:02:23,760 --> 01:02:29,100 flattening the trespass, only the work use, some of the requirements were not making any changes to 766 01:02:29,100 --> 01:02:34,360 side boundary, all the permits are in. This is the interior, a lot, one, between a 767 01:02:34,360 --> 01:02:45,380 couple of lots of people. We can make changes to that. And then G. So, this is just some of the 768 01:02:45,380 --> 01:02:53,440 paragraphs were lettered in somewhere not. Before making a recommendation, the kind of 769 01:02:53,440 --> 01:02:57,720 commission, the general plan, the amendment to the general plan, or the latest regulation, 770 01:02:57,720 --> 01:03:03,120 And the clinic commission is a whole public hearing that is required by 17, 17 and 30 771 01:03:03,120 --> 01:03:12,680 or 32 and we do that, but it is required to take a requirement to be put into the code 772 01:03:12,680 --> 01:03:14,680 that establishes the clinic commission. 773 01:03:14,680 --> 01:03:24,020 There's a couple of things that are outside of the point one, but they have updated, 774 01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:27,020 so you 775 01:03:27,020 --> 01:03:33,940 talk about citations, so this is the hearing officer that we talked about for a variance is 776 01:03:33,940 --> 01:03:39,960 just updated in a section of code that relates to the same thing with the appeals. We just 777 01:03:39,960 --> 01:03:44,410 updating on that and 778 01:03:46,720 --> 01:03:56,040 let's say that there's more things that we need and they use that 779 01:03:56,040 --> 01:04:04,520 based on a real term, I guess we, I figured this with the latest code, stay code, bylaws, 780 01:04:04,920 --> 01:04:10,420 the servers or the orders, there are a few things that fall up like this thing of a appointed 781 01:04:10,420 --> 01:04:17,800 members of our constitution to the point. So, to Snowler's more work, it is, and then we get 782 01:04:17,800 --> 01:04:20,680 to the bylaws on page 21, 783 01:04:25,060 --> 01:04:29,480 because that is a few were changed very, very much with ink. 784 01:04:37,000 --> 01:04:43,320 A lot of shins, so this is what it changes to the collective annually as the first item of business 785 01:04:43,320 --> 01:04:52,780 that each regular, the first regular meeting each calendar year, and so maybe look at that 786 01:04:52,780 --> 01:04:58,020 a little more depth, you and I can come up with, you know, I mean, one of that, so that reads, 787 01:04:58,660 --> 01:05:04,760 oh, one of three, but it doesn't mean that we don't want it to be as good. Because I guess I know 788 01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:12,420 I know what they say you're talking about there. And to see, we took out a different quest 789 01:05:12,420 --> 01:05:14,660 by the pair of written ballots, maybe use, 790 01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:16,820 so low written ballots, if they can let out. 791 01:05:16,820 --> 01:05:18,020 Thank you. 792 01:05:18,080 --> 01:05:18,920 And Mr. Ho-brain. 793 01:05:19,420 --> 01:05:22,040 Yeah, there's no one here that has any objection 794 01:05:22,040 --> 01:05:24,960 for that, but I don't go sell them, yeah. 795 01:05:25,460 --> 01:05:26,920 I don't think it's legal, right? 796 01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:28,820 Well, I don't know about it. 797 01:05:29,280 --> 01:05:31,560 You can do it, but you have to still 798 01:05:31,560 --> 01:05:34,000 in the minutes, stay, go go, go go. 799 01:05:34,480 --> 01:05:35,780 OK, let's go listen. 800 01:05:35,840 --> 01:05:37,480 That's where we are told what we did now. 801 01:05:39,040 --> 01:05:40,760 And it's kind of crazy to do that. 802 01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:42,060 Yes, I think we'll hear that. 803 01:05:43,420 --> 01:05:43,720 Yeah. 804 01:05:44,920 --> 01:05:49,140 Any officer, elected by the Commission may be removed from that office by two 805 01:05:49,140 --> 01:05:49,780 therence vote. 806 01:05:50,800 --> 01:05:54,700 The total membership of the Commission when in advance went the best interest of the 807 01:05:54,700 --> 01:05:57,740 Commission will be served as five of the would the ladies from. 808 01:05:58,300 --> 01:06:00,080 That we just went over. 809 01:06:01,120 --> 01:06:02,580 I don't want to complain about. 810 01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:09,840 Sir, I'm just saying you were going from one commission over to the next one 811 01:06:09,840 --> 01:06:12,240 on that on, did you want to incidentally, 812 01:06:12,320 --> 01:06:14,200 or specify in which one's plan of commission, 813 01:06:14,320 --> 01:06:15,760 which one's plan of commission? 814 01:06:16,940 --> 01:06:18,900 I think if we're going to do it on one of the documents, 815 01:06:19,080 --> 01:06:20,360 we should just do it on the other side. 816 01:06:20,360 --> 01:06:22,960 The email, though, because it doesn't see, yeah. 817 01:06:23,340 --> 01:06:26,100 But this is the plan of commission, by surprise. 818 01:06:26,420 --> 01:06:27,140 Yeah, yes. 819 01:06:27,140 --> 01:06:29,960 So do you think it's a simple, but... 820 01:06:30,360 --> 01:06:32,360 Yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. 821 01:06:32,460 --> 01:06:33,820 You go back to kind of a commission. 822 01:06:34,160 --> 01:06:34,600 That's all. 823 01:06:34,900 --> 01:06:35,740 That's not the wrong way. 824 01:06:35,820 --> 01:06:36,220 If I do. 825 01:06:37,480 --> 01:06:38,540 That's a wrong way. 826 01:06:44,080 --> 01:06:44,760 OK. 827 01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:46,760 All check out. 828 01:06:48,320 --> 01:06:48,760 Good. 829 01:06:49,520 --> 01:06:50,200 And, sure. 830 01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,680 That's, we don't do all the years. 831 01:06:55,080 --> 01:06:55,640 That's not right. 832 01:06:55,720 --> 01:06:56,040 Something. 833 01:06:56,320 --> 01:06:56,620 I don't. 834 01:06:56,920 --> 01:06:57,420 I don't really. 835 01:06:57,600 --> 01:06:57,980 I don't really. 836 01:06:58,120 --> 01:06:58,920 I don't really. 837 01:06:59,500 --> 01:07:06,460 I mean, I think is the objective and subjective effect. 838 01:07:06,460 --> 01:07:21,000 I think that's a chair person sets the agenda in making us all with the vice chair and staff in doing so as provided in the 5.5 this year. 839 01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:29,880 to encourage, to separate, meet, see, and then we're in the voting on new commissioners, the commission. 840 01:07:30,000 --> 01:07:36,000 We shall go upon the names of the candidates in the alphabetical order by last name. 841 01:07:37,300 --> 01:07:42,340 So first of all, last name is last name. And then again, we're thinking about the written values. 842 01:07:43,160 --> 01:07:48,820 The planning commission by a motion for this to the county commission. 843 01:07:48,820 --> 01:07:56,740 of this that came in pencil, just where it's smithing there, and in the bottom of article 844 01:07:56,740 --> 01:08:04,880 of 5.3 annual training, we've got the open polygmatings requirement that's required 845 01:08:04,880 --> 01:08:11,420 to every year. And then I identified system final workshop that's conducted by the Intelli-Gisiting 846 01:08:11,420 --> 01:08:16,640 found. I don't think we'll do that anymore. I don't know the last time they did it, but it's been 847 01:08:16,640 --> 01:08:21,780 several years enough that if you google it, it doesn't be anywhere. And so I just 848 01:08:21,780 --> 01:08:25,680 choose that I was trading. They had a thesis, those meetings. I don't know, 849 01:08:25,760 --> 01:08:32,840 pizza, I'd like to do it. Everybody went. Everybody went to, I didn't a question on that 850 01:08:32,840 --> 01:08:38,500 5v.1 opened meetings. I simply think of higher conversation about field trips. 851 01:08:38,780 --> 01:08:45,340 Do you say we were not going to do field trips? Yeah, but like psych visits and stuff. 852 01:08:45,340 --> 01:08:53,000 And so that comes in later under special readings and I can't remember about it, but I'll get to it. 853 01:08:53,380 --> 01:08:57,500 Okay, I remember. Yep, yep. Yeah, the next one is, yeah. 854 01:08:58,500 --> 01:09:02,580 Yeah, social media is workshop, social meetings, workshops, and field trips. 855 01:09:02,900 --> 01:09:06,740 For any purpose, maybe you know, they're the call of the chairperson or the being killing 856 01:09:07,140 --> 01:09:07,540 solution. 857 01:09:11,060 --> 01:09:16,900 If that's done, there'll have to be things that open meeting. We can do that. 858 01:09:17,020 --> 01:09:20,560 There has to be noticed in the bunch of other stuff. So I'll just put it in compliance with open 859 01:09:20,560 --> 01:09:24,780 by being exact. That would be the best way to do that. I like the fact that Jeremy 860 01:09:24,780 --> 01:09:30,460 can say, let's go look at this. Yeah, because I can't think of it off the top of my head. It's 861 01:09:30,460 --> 01:09:36,880 the situation more to be fair to the applicant and give him the most opportunity you may have 862 01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:42,260 to go up and if the public wants to go, get on the horse and ride, let's go, tell him. 863 01:09:43,500 --> 01:09:43,700 Yeah. 864 01:09:43,980 --> 01:09:50,680 Yeah, neighbor was a farmer and the city was putting in a sewer line. 865 01:09:51,520 --> 01:09:55,960 He asked the workers what they're doing and they told him and he said that water doesn't 866 01:09:55,960 --> 01:10:00,940 in the field, and they said, well, we know what we're doing, and we're doing a TV statement. 867 01:10:02,040 --> 01:10:05,100 We have a reverse engineer at New Zealand. 868 01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:16,940 Let's see, the chairperson, the vice chairperson, and Kelly Staff may meet to prepare that agenda and to determine the scheduling order of items. 869 01:10:17,680 --> 01:10:23,060 Because that's a meeting of this not convey, that does not contain a core of the commission. 870 01:10:23,060 --> 01:10:30,020 And it's not a leading or a deliberation in open political meetings at a gender preparation 871 01:10:30,020 --> 01:10:35,940 is limited to use elections, scheduling in order of high-end and the sufficiency of materials 872 01:10:35,940 --> 01:10:40,320 and does not include consideration of the merits of any building we have, of course, you know, 873 01:10:40,960 --> 01:10:45,320 because you may have been doing the nature of our chairs now, I wouldn't move. 874 01:10:46,000 --> 01:10:52,520 The meeting materials, we've got the timing office, having officers to be here, 875 01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:59,640 it's now over there. And then it stayed awesome that it was planning on it for available at 876 01:10:59,640 --> 01:11:06,140 the Grand Canyon Library. I've changed that and said in on the Grand Canyon website at the same time 877 01:11:06,140 --> 01:11:12,440 materials and provide some commission members. When an item is set for public hearing rather than 878 01:11:12,440 --> 01:11:18,120 a public being, the materials for that item will also be available at the Grand Canyon Library by 879 01:11:18,120 --> 01:11:21,140 I'd pay on the Friday before the planning, because you're meeting D. 880 01:11:21,820 --> 01:11:26,000 So, before I was read as if all of our staff reports 881 01:11:26,000 --> 01:11:29,300 directly, the great and delivery in physical 882 01:11:29,300 --> 01:11:30,540 are not performed. 883 01:11:30,760 --> 01:11:31,240 They're not. 884 01:11:31,360 --> 01:11:34,280 It's only if we have a public hearing on something that we put that 885 01:11:34,280 --> 01:11:37,760 over there with the faculty, like the one you 886 01:11:37,760 --> 01:11:40,320 have some probation ailment, you should put there on 887 01:11:40,320 --> 01:11:42,100 first of June at the library. 888 01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:45,080 I don't place it over there. 889 01:11:45,080 --> 01:11:50,080 and we'll probably hold more of a date with it, but it goes there. 890 01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:53,680 Is there a reason we do that? 891 01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:57,040 It's so if somebody doesn't have, 892 01:11:57,040 --> 01:11:59,080 they would relate to electronic means. 893 01:11:59,640 --> 01:12:06,340 They can go over and review it a hard copy or give me, 894 01:12:06,340 --> 01:12:08,360 go out and put it, put care on inside there. 895 01:12:08,740 --> 01:12:09,400 Do you want to go in there? 896 01:12:09,460 --> 01:12:12,080 Yeah, actually, put it for the physical copy there. 897 01:12:12,260 --> 01:12:13,760 Because you can look it up on the computer, 898 01:12:13,940 --> 01:12:14,140 it's great. 899 01:12:14,140 --> 01:12:19,860 Yes, there's somebody who doesn't have access to that, so that's what that's what it is. 900 01:12:20,080 --> 01:12:21,320 So you share your hand them. 901 01:12:21,880 --> 01:12:26,640 Library and library is open and out of five, so people can think of this. 902 01:12:26,880 --> 01:12:29,000 I didn't use to post them out of here. 903 01:12:29,260 --> 01:12:31,360 I remember my stuff was always not here. 904 01:12:31,920 --> 01:12:33,920 Yeah, I thought we could over here. 905 01:12:35,340 --> 01:12:36,100 Or over there. 906 01:12:36,100 --> 01:12:37,500 Yes, I've been here too long. 907 01:12:38,320 --> 01:12:39,060 Yes, we're here. 908 01:12:39,660 --> 01:12:42,900 And the library used to printed that. 909 01:12:42,900 --> 01:12:45,780 I've never had a friend of myself since I was a child. 910 01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:47,540 I just said it over time, sadly. 911 01:12:47,980 --> 01:12:48,520 Make this. 912 01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:50,780 Yeah, we take it over. 913 01:12:51,600 --> 01:12:51,960 It will fall. 914 01:12:51,960 --> 01:12:53,860 Why don't you go ahead and under take it over there? 915 01:12:53,880 --> 01:12:55,580 It only takes a couple of minutes. 916 01:12:55,700 --> 01:12:56,440 I think it's you. 917 01:12:56,440 --> 01:12:59,960 They've got a, like, a board just in, say, 918 01:13:00,140 --> 01:13:02,680 a lobby there for public notices and things. 919 01:13:03,100 --> 01:13:06,580 We should try to do that. 920 01:13:06,700 --> 01:13:06,840 Right. 921 01:13:08,080 --> 01:13:09,460 Question on that real quick. 922 01:13:09,460 --> 01:13:19,440 So, we know materials need to be posted by 5 p.m. the Friday before, but public comment 923 01:13:19,440 --> 01:13:22,440 is due Wednesday before. 924 01:13:23,640 --> 01:13:25,640 And there's a point about that. 925 01:13:25,740 --> 01:13:27,040 There's no brownings. 926 01:13:27,860 --> 01:13:31,560 wife had the same questioning for her. 927 01:13:31,560 --> 01:13:39,640 And so if people want public comment to be put into the packet that's sent out there, 928 01:13:39,720 --> 01:13:44,860 they actually have to have that Wednesday at 5 PM before the Friday before the Friday 929 01:13:44,860 --> 01:13:52,720 Commission meeting. Now, if we have a public hearing, public hearing item is posted 10 days prior 930 01:13:52,720 --> 01:13:59,360 to the meeting. So things that are how public hearings, that's available before 931 01:14:01,560 --> 01:14:08,220 staff report goes out. But yeah, that's definitely a flaw in the system if somebody 932 01:14:08,220 --> 01:14:15,420 just wants to make a comment on an item that's not a public hearing, they will know of that 933 01:14:15,420 --> 01:14:22,160 item until two days after they need a tip. You know, I'm like, come on, it's important. 934 01:14:23,120 --> 01:14:31,540 But it's still how? It's still coming in. It's still coming in. It's still coming in. They can still 935 01:14:31,540 --> 01:14:48,460 Okay, so if you want to include it in the packet, then yeah, and that is on two in this I think the Roberts red lines, I make that more specific. 936 01:14:51,060 --> 01:14:56,780 No, I have a funny question, so I think the. 937 01:14:57,220 --> 01:14:59,960 The county commission I think I don't know. 938 01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:10,960 This is a question, has a system whereby when a system gets on and sends out email to the county, then just 939 01:15:10,960 --> 01:15:19,640 kind of go out to you immediately. We don't have such a system, I think the problem with us is, are 940 01:15:20,760 --> 01:15:31,600 I don't think that I don't think if we send a thing into the planning commission, then it goes out and automatically opt all the planning commissioners are known. 941 01:15:31,680 --> 01:15:39,700 I think that there's less because I think there's a form and I'm talking a little bit verbally, I know, but I'm pretty sure that that's part of the agenda center. 942 01:15:39,700 --> 01:15:45,300 like. So for the first one of the softwares that we had is actually a form and so a little more. 943 01:15:45,600 --> 01:15:52,120 So that one goes to goes to our emails and that would out the commissioner. The commissioners 944 01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:58,980 have got it. Even if they did a little bit different with the commissioners who have decided 945 01:15:58,980 --> 01:16:09,420 about it versus the fighting commission. Because we should email county commissioners directly. 946 01:16:09,700 --> 01:16:14,960 That's fine. You can have discussions with them directly whatever you want having commission members 947 01:16:14,960 --> 01:16:18,360 It's a little bit different to that needs to be 948 01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:23,300 So everybody gets it. It's just a couple 949 01:16:24,900 --> 01:16:29,240 So I think in the robber's red lines. I've got in there that 950 01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:39,680 I've come as limited three minutes or 400 words high and it can be if it's if you want it in the packet 951 01:16:39,700 --> 01:16:47,500 and it's going to come to us, the 5 PM, the Wednesday before the meeting, and that's to the, 952 01:16:47,600 --> 01:16:54,860 but, I mean, portal, it's going on our website, and then I know it sent me, you know, 953 01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:59,680 who else it gets sent to you, but then we went forward those, if they're by Wednesday, 954 01:16:59,940 --> 01:17:07,080 if I've got those doors to the packet. If it's after that, then it's going to email directly to you 955 01:17:07,080 --> 01:17:09,880 or came that out of the meeting and I've actually had, 956 01:17:10,000 --> 01:17:15,740 but I'm going to come in by email at 6 o'clock 957 01:17:15,740 --> 01:17:19,040 and bring a plan to mission meeting 958 01:17:19,040 --> 01:17:21,900 and I'm like, I'm not sure, I'll address. 959 01:17:23,000 --> 01:17:23,640 Well, that's interesting. 960 01:17:23,900 --> 01:17:28,040 Because I usually don't get many public comments 961 01:17:30,260 --> 01:17:33,400 by email and I always thought it was the system. 962 01:17:33,400 --> 01:17:44,440 And what I'm going to do is go on an experiment, and I'm going to put something on that, let's say, something or a meeting and see if we all get it. 963 01:17:45,360 --> 01:17:45,980 That's it. 964 01:17:45,980 --> 01:17:46,220 That's it. 965 01:17:46,480 --> 01:17:46,500 Yeah. 966 01:17:46,500 --> 01:17:48,240 I think we don't think you do. 967 01:17:50,120 --> 01:17:57,400 The county commission does, because our legislative, the planning commission, I believe it just comes to 968 01:17:58,120 --> 01:18:05,800 I'm going to lease it then myself, and then we have that there's handouts that we do. 969 01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:15,280 If it comes after Wednesday at five, if it comes in after Wednesday at five in the packets, 970 01:18:15,660 --> 01:18:20,020 not all done up and everything, I'll include it in there, it's not something like what it 971 01:18:20,020 --> 01:18:24,360 restricts somebody, but I'm saying, if you wanted to do this kind of thing. 972 01:18:24,360 --> 01:18:53,740 And my question, my question is, I don't know, this is, I guess, the decision, or maybe it's all over our hands, but why aren't we on the system that's like the counties, which would allow us, somebody now going to give them the advantage of the doubt, they realize after they see the path and on Friday, right evening, they want to send a comment and why aren't we on the system like the counties has, that it goes tall of it. 973 01:18:53,740 --> 01:19:03,700 If there isn't a political reason, and it's not a bar-fetched category, I'd love to see that because 974 01:19:03,700 --> 01:19:04,060 there. 975 01:19:04,280 --> 01:19:10,360 I think citizens would feel more like, oh, I got to see the packet, and I don't like the way this 976 01:19:10,360 --> 01:19:15,100 thing is going, or I like the way this thing is going, and can then put comments in that 977 01:19:15,100 --> 01:19:18,460 we'd actually get if they can't be at the meeting. 978 01:19:18,460 --> 01:19:26,320 The ICB for things for basically for packets, where there is no hearing. 979 01:19:27,500 --> 01:19:27,600 Yeah. 980 01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:28,980 Because one's one there isn't hearing. 981 01:19:29,180 --> 01:19:29,380 Yeah. 982 01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:30,880 Not together though. 983 01:19:31,280 --> 01:19:31,520 Thank you. 984 01:19:31,880 --> 01:19:32,600 More important. 985 01:19:32,620 --> 01:19:36,460 And time to answer that was because they'd have to use our personal email addresses 986 01:19:36,460 --> 01:19:37,760 since we're volunteered. 987 01:19:39,100 --> 01:19:41,800 I feel like we've got a conversation about this. 988 01:19:41,960 --> 01:19:46,580 And it involved them putting our contact information on the county website. 989 01:19:48,200 --> 01:19:52,480 But I don't have offer, I don't know, I love it, it's one of the reasons for it. 990 01:19:52,740 --> 01:19:54,560 But they don't do that. 991 01:19:54,680 --> 01:19:57,000 You could get us partained to death. 992 01:19:57,600 --> 01:19:57,800 Yeah. 993 01:19:59,240 --> 01:20:00,260 That's a fair term. 994 01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:03,120 Yeah, so it's got to go to everybody, not just one. 995 01:20:03,180 --> 01:20:03,680 Yes, right. 996 01:20:03,840 --> 01:20:05,580 But I will object with. 997 01:20:06,300 --> 01:20:06,320 Yeah. 998 01:20:06,540 --> 01:20:08,620 I'm going to turn it off without saying. 999 01:20:09,520 --> 01:20:10,300 And get the open. 1000 01:20:10,800 --> 01:20:12,360 There's a downside to that. 1001 01:20:12,360 --> 01:20:18,340 I think it would be different if it went to you guys and it got sent to all of us from 1002 01:20:18,840 --> 01:20:26,540 finding in zoning. Then it still stays in that email. Then we can still make sure we're following you. 1003 01:20:26,960 --> 01:20:42,340 Well, there was for a little while where if you put on the portal and you posted the combat to the 1004 01:20:43,860 --> 01:20:47,340 So okay, so this is my content play. 1005 01:20:48,440 --> 01:20:52,340 Oh, it's because of somebody that's a particular share. 1006 01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:55,220 That's a question. 1007 01:20:55,920 --> 01:20:59,660 So it just seems like on it and live your draft, 1008 01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:02,940 right here on page three on your public comment. 1009 01:21:03,940 --> 01:21:08,180 If someone sends an apology after. 1010 01:21:10,040 --> 01:21:11,580 Well, let's just say, 1011 01:21:11,580 --> 01:21:16,680 you're not going to read aloud or summarize any comments of the meeting. That's the second 1012 01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:21,900 paragraph. But then on the third paragraph that says, if the submitter wants it, on the record, 1013 01:21:22,160 --> 01:21:30,700 it still goes on the record, but we've never seen it. I guess it's your time to say. Yeah, yeah. 1014 01:21:31,560 --> 01:21:37,340 So even, so you, you will see it, but you'll see it after meeting. So you will read it out loud. 1015 01:21:37,340 --> 01:21:38,720 You're giving it. 1016 01:21:38,720 --> 01:21:42,100 Oh, you just have my life here as we come in. 1017 01:21:42,340 --> 01:21:42,500 Yep. 1018 01:21:42,680 --> 01:21:44,720 And you know, this like make a never to us. 1019 01:21:44,720 --> 01:21:47,620 Yes, the person wants it red. 1020 01:21:48,020 --> 01:21:52,460 They can either come on by Zoom or come in person and read. 1021 01:21:52,460 --> 01:21:52,860 Okay. 1022 01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:53,940 There's a minute to comment. 1023 01:21:54,320 --> 01:21:54,540 Okay. 1024 01:21:54,700 --> 01:21:57,360 But we won't read. 1025 01:21:57,420 --> 01:21:59,220 The staff will read the comments. 1026 01:22:00,000 --> 01:22:02,300 As long as it doesn't go over to you. 1027 01:22:02,540 --> 01:22:02,960 Right. 1028 01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:05,100 We can't end up with us. 1029 01:22:05,300 --> 01:22:07,320 That right here, on dissertation. 1030 01:22:08,100 --> 01:22:08,640 Hot items. 1031 01:22:09,520 --> 01:22:11,840 Or at least at least at least at least at least at least. 1032 01:22:12,940 --> 01:22:18,220 If we don't have a system of actually getting those comments, 1033 01:22:18,800 --> 01:22:20,970 I would probably say if we get, you know, 1034 01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:23,110 coming from four or five people, 1035 01:22:24,280 --> 01:22:25,720 I'd probably ask the chair, 1036 01:22:26,140 --> 01:22:28,880 can we have 10 minutes to read the reading? 1037 01:22:28,880 --> 01:22:29,960 and I hate having... 1038 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:34,800 And I'm right y'all, where somebody's testified and you're trying to read a note or something. 1039 01:22:35,260 --> 01:22:37,420 Yeah, that's all. Let's attach a note. 1040 01:22:37,440 --> 01:22:39,400 Oh, that's fair. It's not fair to the person. 1041 01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:41,480 Yes, I think the chair would have come. 1042 01:22:41,780 --> 01:22:44,460 Yeah, you never know what to do. You know one of the chair. 1043 01:22:44,920 --> 01:22:45,720 We just read it. 1044 01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:46,360 There you go. 1045 01:22:47,300 --> 01:22:48,460 I don't know. I don't know. 1046 01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:49,380 I don't know. I don't know. 1047 01:22:49,600 --> 01:22:49,920 I don't know. 1048 01:22:51,880 --> 01:22:56,880 We have to be content neutral, but we can, um, 1049 01:22:56,880 --> 01:23:07,380 particularly the time that we have in place around commercial first-in-the-minute spin-trades. 1050 01:23:08,980 --> 01:23:19,790 But we also have had some of the board meetings lately that people then pull a comment, 1051 01:23:19,790 --> 01:23:30,650 So let's tell everybody in, because I got this big list of humans on and on mute and it's from porno. 1052 01:23:32,310 --> 01:23:34,930 And so China really bad. 1053 01:23:36,490 --> 01:23:45,770 So these are the only, like, the recommendation is that if somebody is on and they've got their hand up, 1054 01:23:45,770 --> 01:23:51,030 and they ask them what I don't know what they're going to talk about in the most instances. 1055 01:23:51,810 --> 01:23:54,710 They will know that they say, I accept it or come with us. 1056 01:23:54,850 --> 01:24:02,490 Well, that's some AI program that's spamming pornography and they may also have the issue 1057 01:24:04,370 --> 01:24:07,010 of what if somebody has hate speech. 1058 01:24:08,230 --> 01:24:15,770 So we'll make sure that people have an opportunity to come in, but then we're also going to 1059 01:24:15,770 --> 01:24:21,070 means someone's hate speech and so we have to be content neutral. So that's why we're not 1060 01:24:21,070 --> 01:24:26,590 reading it. We said that to you, I suppose, somebody wants to do some Nazi propaganda, 1061 01:24:27,070 --> 01:24:30,330 as the public kind of will send that out to you, because we'll become content neutral. 1062 01:24:32,700 --> 01:24:41,200 Well, let's see, oh, here's the be there at this point there. It's so interesting, but 1063 01:24:41,200 --> 01:24:44,380 commissioners are encouraged to review meeting with terminals of policy, 1064 01:24:44,380 --> 01:24:48,680 I mean, we're a efficient polymedicine and active staff for organizations. 1065 01:24:49,440 --> 01:24:53,480 But for me, I should contact the planning director before the meeting, we're going to 1066 01:24:53,480 --> 01:25:00,300 technical questions, request for clarification, suspected factual errors at the staff report. 1067 01:25:01,660 --> 01:25:08,600 So, everybody has my email, you've got, everybody's called me or texting me, or email me. 1068 01:25:09,500 --> 01:25:14,360 If, if you find something that's in the air, if you let me know before the meeting, 1069 01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:19,840 and then I can address that versus at the meeting during discussions that I'm trying to look 1070 01:25:19,840 --> 01:25:26,160 up the code on my phone or something. So I just added that that if you could do that the 1071 01:25:26,160 --> 01:25:32,480 be green. Staff shall endure to respond before the meeting. Staff shall provide any corrections 1072 01:25:33,000 --> 01:25:40,720 to staff report in any responses of general significance to the Commission's consideration of the item 1073 01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:52,460 to the fall commission and writing for the meeting or the of the start of the height of page 25 voting and this is what we're getting from this. 1074 01:25:52,460 --> 01:25:54,280 Wait, I have a comment on what you mean. 1075 01:25:54,400 --> 01:25:58,240 I thought those two paragraphs should be those same paragraph. 1076 01:25:59,480 --> 01:26:01,220 Do you think that's pretty? 1077 01:26:01,220 --> 01:26:01,440 That's pretty. 1078 01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:03,140 I don't know, like. 1079 01:26:03,280 --> 01:26:03,580 Beans. 1080 01:26:04,000 --> 01:26:08,360 Yeah, I think they're, I think there are two parts of the same issue. 1081 01:26:08,680 --> 01:26:11,000 I'm sorry I'm not out there, but you can do very well. 1082 01:26:11,000 --> 01:26:11,420 Sounds good, 1083 01:26:13,800 --> 01:26:13,900 really. 1084 01:26:14,040 --> 01:26:18,300 You get rid of the sea as easy as you can to be. 1085 01:26:18,600 --> 01:26:23,480 Yeah, it's like the R part and then your response. 1086 01:26:24,040 --> 01:26:25,000 So it seems like there's a lot of stuff. 1087 01:26:25,380 --> 01:26:26,740 Yeah, perfect. 1088 01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:30,420 The only thing we talked about, the traditional variety 1089 01:26:30,420 --> 01:26:34,760 in this part, a part of the tuition circuit 1090 01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:39,240 system and the majority of the appointed regular members, 1091 01:26:39,240 --> 01:26:50,240 The further the majority of the pointed red and the numbers shall be necessary to pass the emotion that's provided in the latest code. 1092 01:26:53,420 --> 01:26:54,760 I just have a question. 1093 01:26:55,840 --> 01:26:57,100 This is so technical about. 1094 01:26:57,300 --> 01:27:03,460 The land use code says 8.1.3 e4 as soon as we have the new land use code. 1095 01:27:03,540 --> 01:27:04,480 Does it all change that? 1096 01:27:04,480 --> 01:27:05,400 We'll have to change that. 1097 01:27:06,020 --> 01:27:08,560 There we can just say that's a variety of land use code. 1098 01:27:08,560 --> 01:27:12,420 I'm like otherwise, it's so an inflow thing to change. 1099 01:27:12,580 --> 01:27:16,560 You have this another level of air introduction rate, 1100 01:27:19,710 --> 01:27:20,890 but I don't 1101 01:27:24,540 --> 01:27:25,760 know whether it's those. 1102 01:27:28,900 --> 01:27:33,380 And so on 5 or 15, 1103 01:27:35,450 --> 01:27:37,630 you can't be a citizen of a county, 1104 01:27:37,830 --> 01:27:39,610 you can only be a citizen of a country. 1105 01:27:40,270 --> 01:27:43,290 And if we had someone who was a citizen of Canada 1106 01:27:43,290 --> 01:27:46,130 and they wanted to make public comment 1107 01:27:46,130 --> 01:27:51,390 were not going to disallow them because they're not a citizen. So I think it's probably 1108 01:27:51,390 --> 01:27:58,990 what we're intending to mean was public comments to the citizen. So public advocate and 1109 01:27:58,990 --> 01:28:06,510 other participation by real time, the public advocates and other others may participate by real 1110 01:28:06,510 --> 01:28:13,210 time telecommunications. Can you talk about such and such? And the ordinance is including the 1111 01:28:13,210 --> 01:28:23,570 to be a resolution of 244 on one means the minimum number of members required to act as a body 1112 01:28:23,570 --> 01:28:31,910 accord requires a majority of the appointed regular commission members just provided it and we can 1113 01:28:31,910 --> 01:28:36,970 chase that for later school as well to be present in person or by real time what trying 1114 01:28:36,970 --> 01:28:44,010 names, just before COVID, he can listen in on themes or activity, 1115 01:28:45,270 --> 01:28:49,150 and then he had COVID, and like the whole legislative area, 1116 01:28:49,870 --> 01:28:53,050 so they were able to pass any regulation. 1117 01:28:53,790 --> 01:28:55,050 It's a good thing, that thing. 1118 01:28:55,170 --> 01:28:56,130 Go editorial there. 1119 01:28:56,430 --> 01:28:57,970 Well, they were able to do it. 1120 01:29:01,610 --> 01:29:05,430 Let's see commissioner participation in the whole time. 1121 01:29:05,430 --> 01:29:13,710 case that we covered that request to withdraw or amend application or petitions, the power 1122 01:29:13,710 --> 01:29:19,010 request from the applicant, petitioner, or authorized agent, an application or petition 1123 01:29:19,010 --> 01:29:25,170 that may be withdrawn at any time for the commission decides upon the seed. 1124 01:29:25,170 --> 01:29:30,130 So, STEM makes the decisions the size of everything. 1125 01:29:30,670 --> 01:29:30,690 A 1126 01:29:33,920 --> 01:29:36,820 team that is eligible for mission, 1127 01:29:36,960 --> 01:29:37,720 consideration. 1128 01:29:39,900 --> 01:29:43,480 And I've got to check this because I know there's some things 1129 01:29:43,480 --> 01:29:47,300 that are probably this year that we don't have any authority on. 1130 01:29:47,620 --> 01:29:50,760 The commission itself consider a specific development proposal, 1131 01:29:50,760 --> 01:29:54,460 only upon an application or a petition that the 1132 01:29:54,460 --> 01:29:59,640 Department has accepted as complete and scheduled for Commission Action under Lenisco. 1133 01:29:59,780 --> 01:29:59,920 Nice. 1134 01:30:00,750 --> 01:30:13,750 At all, on this, a lot of times, we're controlling, getting things through, and I know some people have been waiting for the long, many years of project item to come before. 1135 01:30:15,170 --> 01:30:20,350 And so there may be some things that may miss on some of that, may be off. 1136 01:30:23,530 --> 01:30:29,810 But this is more for me than anybody that I don't put anything. 1137 01:30:30,750 --> 01:30:33,610 on the commission agenda unless it's complete. 1138 01:30:36,040 --> 01:30:39,040 The question does not conduct a pre-application or use, 1139 01:30:39,060 --> 01:30:41,660 and this is out of the line from what happened before, 1140 01:30:42,360 --> 01:30:46,060 the commission does not conduct a pre-application review pre-application, 1141 01:30:46,160 --> 01:30:49,500 and conceptual interference at the applicant's election, 1142 01:30:49,780 --> 01:30:52,740 and are conducted administrative by the planning department, 1143 01:30:53,460 --> 01:30:55,780 has provided by the sectional ladies code, 1144 01:30:56,160 --> 01:30:58,920 requests for a pre-application or conceptual use, 1145 01:30:58,920 --> 01:31:01,320 shall be directed to the planning department, 1146 01:31:01,320 --> 01:31:06,700 the chairperson shall not place, or staff shall not schedule a specific development proposal 1147 01:31:06,700 --> 01:31:12,520 on the commission agenda before planning to program has accepted the complete application for 1148 01:31:12,520 --> 01:31:13,180 that proposal. 1149 01:31:15,200 --> 01:31:24,200 Now, if it wasn't illegal to have them found before us, it wasn't, it wasn't 1150 01:31:26,350 --> 01:31:35,450 can it expose us to legal challenges? Yes. And so, I'm just like if you don't want to do it, 1151 01:31:35,670 --> 01:31:41,110 let's put it in the years we're not going to do it. Instead of me trying to make the ad hoc decision, 1152 01:31:41,710 --> 01:31:47,830 okay, this can go about this kid. Nothing else. This section is not limited to commission's 1153 01:31:47,830 --> 01:31:53,930 consideration of general planning. All of its 90s code, amendment, work sessions are policy 1154 01:31:53,930 --> 01:31:59,350 a procedure all afternoon, application, train, budget, and work program items, can the interviews 1155 01:31:59,350 --> 01:32:04,210 or other matters that do not involve upending or perspective when use of application? 1156 01:32:05,070 --> 01:32:09,190 No, it doesn't limit any matter referred to the commission by the county commission. 1157 01:32:10,170 --> 01:32:14,810 In a comment offered by the Commission, and by an individual member concerning the matter, 1158 01:32:15,170 --> 01:32:20,810 not before the Commission under Section A is not a decision-recollation approval or determination 1159 01:32:20,810 --> 01:32:21,690 in all the commission. 1160 01:32:22,230 --> 01:32:25,070 Just not buying the commission or the county, 1161 01:32:25,250 --> 01:32:28,630 I mean, the remote light for anybody in person. 1162 01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:33,420 And when I thought people would be perfect to me, 1163 01:32:33,600 --> 01:32:34,860 and I would like to. 1164 01:32:35,380 --> 01:32:37,080 What do I know? 1165 01:32:37,600 --> 01:32:39,740 This well, it goes to us, but the general plan says, 1166 01:32:39,880 --> 01:32:40,360 what do I know? 1167 01:32:40,360 --> 01:32:41,640 I don't know. 1168 01:32:41,700 --> 01:32:42,240 I don't know. 1169 01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:43,660 What I know. 1170 01:32:46,180 --> 01:32:49,640 It's 27 conflict as interest, 1171 01:32:49,640 --> 01:32:58,500 Eric Kuzel, for Kuzel, planning commission members as government by land use code 8.1.3F, 1172 01:32:58,820 --> 01:33:05,260 again we're changed. And this section, I mean, we're scratching out with a conflict of interest, 1173 01:33:05,540 --> 01:33:11,340 scratching out the required and adding in, when the member has a conflict of interest, 1174 01:33:11,500 --> 01:33:16,200 has a personal or financial interest in the land use application or when the members participate 1175 01:33:16,200 --> 01:33:22,960 or in-create, actual and permissible bias or unacceptable risk of and permissible bias in 1176 01:33:22,960 --> 01:33:32,500 the state of the quasi-judicial manner has provided in 90s count 8.1.3 tasks. Now, in the 1177 01:33:33,000 --> 01:33:40,420 embedded traps of product roles, going to a little bit more definition of what that 1178 01:33:40,420 --> 01:33:50,200 evil means, where it's actually saying that somebody eats that animal and sets them in the audience. 1179 01:33:51,520 --> 01:33:57,240 If they're not using it, it's not that they sit here just being just don't vote, but an intellectual physical. 1180 01:33:57,960 --> 01:34:01,780 If you want that, that's the Robert Rose. 1181 01:34:03,260 --> 01:34:10,740 Thank you Mr. Shalna, I gave in its part, which means one side of it, communications 1182 01:34:10,740 --> 01:34:16,460 of the final section B, communication that occurs in the ordinary course of an image profession 1183 01:34:16,980 --> 01:34:25,520 or employment that does not concern the marriage or likely, this position of pending application, 1184 01:34:25,520 --> 01:34:28,640 this and I mixed part of communication into the session. 1185 01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:31,360 So you want to 1186 01:34:31,360 --> 01:34:34,720 spot me be a lot of people, know each other, a lot of people are really 1187 01:34:34,720 --> 01:34:44,000 easy to tell. A lot of employees are ready to eat other. And so you always 1188 01:34:44,000 --> 01:34:51,140 may have something where, yeah, that's my ex-prison was, and he's ex-husband's 1189 01:34:51,140 --> 01:35:01,680 on the right. So I'll even up to you, I'm not anybody's watch card on any of this, so I'll 1190 01:35:01,680 --> 01:35:20,720 open up to you as to what you state, expire time, but just realize that there's people who 1191 01:35:20,720 --> 01:35:22,900 go to the grocery in Fursi. 1192 01:35:23,300 --> 01:35:26,220 I can be by myself. 1193 01:35:27,040 --> 01:35:29,600 Anyway, you know, we're there, right? 1194 01:35:29,980 --> 01:35:30,000 Right. 1195 01:35:30,020 --> 01:35:31,100 Congrats on the job. 1196 01:35:31,840 --> 01:35:35,300 But, you know, we bump into each other, but we're not having the 1197 01:35:35,300 --> 01:35:39,640 expertise in the coming up with a scheme of how to get something 1198 01:35:39,640 --> 01:35:41,420 happening or whatever, right? 1199 01:35:42,100 --> 01:35:46,300 So, we're all going to bump into each other at the gas station church. 1200 01:35:47,240 --> 01:35:48,720 Other places are in. 1201 01:35:48,720 --> 01:35:51,600 I don't know what's that. 1202 01:35:52,440 --> 01:35:54,320 I don't know. 1203 01:35:54,320 --> 01:35:54,760 I don't know. 1204 01:35:54,760 --> 01:35:54,920 I don't know. 1205 01:35:55,320 --> 01:35:55,760 I don't know. 1206 01:35:55,760 --> 01:35:57,620 No, it's always. 1207 01:35:58,020 --> 01:35:58,920 It's a fucking interesting. 1208 01:35:59,900 --> 01:36:00,460 I'm just sorry. 1209 01:36:00,960 --> 01:36:03,160 This sounds like some people are aware of that. 1210 01:36:03,500 --> 01:36:06,960 You know, for some planning commission, policy, 1211 01:36:07,220 --> 01:36:07,800 expert recommendations, 1212 01:36:08,700 --> 01:36:11,780 cleaning communication with an interest in 1213 01:36:11,780 --> 01:36:13,560 the particles running with the merits of a 1214 01:36:13,560 --> 01:36:14,500 pending application. 1215 01:36:15,220 --> 01:36:17,620 I've just more information on that in 1216 01:36:17,620 --> 01:36:24,160 the provot's rules, bread lines that I've got there, that are acquired by a commissioner to 1217 01:36:24,160 --> 01:36:29,740 kind of staff regarding factual technical or procedural aspects of an act, and that's part 1218 01:36:29,740 --> 01:36:34,960 of communication, of this action, communication between that individual prisoner and staff, 1219 01:36:35,260 --> 01:36:39,440 it's not a meeting or a relation, and then you talk over and over for me, and so forth. 1220 01:36:41,500 --> 01:36:45,920 Limerd was, and that's part of actually a patient that has spoken at the beginning of the 1221 01:36:45,920 --> 01:36:51,400 administration of the item, stating who the communication was with and whether it occurred 1222 01:36:51,400 --> 01:36:59,960 and substance to a fair person shall then afford to act in any other party, present an 1223 01:36:59,960 --> 01:37:05,360 opportunity to respond, following the disclosure and any response, the member may participate 1224 01:37:05,360 --> 01:37:09,900 in the latter, a list of refusal, as a part of the other section. 1225 01:37:10,860 --> 01:37:13,900 maintaining public impartiality, 1226 01:37:14,460 --> 01:37:16,920 a person member in my seek information, 1227 01:37:18,080 --> 01:37:21,240 center of seeking factual technical or procedural information 1228 01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:22,540 is not a liberation. 1229 01:37:23,360 --> 01:37:26,140 Members shall not deliberate on a matter before the commission 1230 01:37:26,140 --> 01:37:29,760 else time will probably be in a members on the solicitor. 1231 01:37:30,000 --> 01:37:35,200 The other members of the years, for an important decision on a pending matter, outside of 1232 01:37:35,200 --> 01:37:41,020 delegating directly or through staff or a third party, and that is also commended some in 1233 01:37:41,020 --> 01:37:44,540 these two handouts to the league. 1234 01:37:44,540 --> 01:37:52,900 Now, we're bringing specific cleaning land use application in the plain pollution, meaning 1235 01:37:52,900 --> 01:37:57,540 with police staff, the left official online use advocate is a no-one part of pollution 1236 01:37:57,540 --> 01:38:05,740 business, and is not by itself caused for a new, let's see, if we fall 10 this failure of 1237 01:38:05,740 --> 01:38:11,300 a number to 10, 3, and I'm next to you, executive meetings, maybe cause for a written 1238 01:38:11,300 --> 01:38:15,380 that the member's position may be vacated, 1239 01:38:17,400 --> 01:38:22,320 the resignation of a removal, the Planning Commission may request 1240 01:38:22,320 --> 01:38:25,240 the resignation of members for reasons of the attendance 1241 01:38:25,240 --> 01:38:27,660 or other ethical considerations. 1242 01:38:28,140 --> 01:38:30,720 The Planning Commission may remove the commission members 1243 01:38:30,720 --> 01:38:33,020 or cause by two thirds, 1244 01:38:33,460 --> 01:38:35,640 although prior to the expiration of the appointment 1245 01:38:35,640 --> 01:38:40,260 term in accordance with the causes and procedures set out 1246 01:38:40,260 --> 01:38:47,100 in the land use code, which require a minimalist of cause, and then this was unique to the 1247 01:38:47,100 --> 01:38:51,120 great county that I'll take me from another tourist one for the police in the house. 1248 01:38:52,240 --> 01:38:52,800 So 1249 01:38:55,040 --> 01:38:55,680 that's so far. 1250 01:38:57,040 --> 01:39:01,300 And then these additions are on to it. 1251 01:39:01,960 --> 01:39:12,930 I was hoping that we could go for public hearing, or I don't know if you want to go through. 1252 01:39:13,630 --> 01:39:23,310 this as well, or if it's that's digest some things, look at this stuff and we have another workshop on it's way to work for it to be well. 1253 01:39:23,450 --> 01:39:25,150 By recommendation to be. 1254 01:39:25,470 --> 01:39:26,390 Because again, this. 1255 01:39:26,950 --> 01:39:29,210 You make one change over here. 1256 01:39:29,570 --> 01:39:33,490 You know, it's like you do the recipe from Facebook. 1257 01:39:33,770 --> 01:39:34,930 You make one change here. 1258 01:39:35,010 --> 01:39:38,470 The recursive is there and it doesn't even look like what they have on Facebook, right? 1259 01:39:38,470 --> 01:39:45,490 So, Andrew, the things that we've reviewed today and have confirmed this thoughtful or 1260 01:39:45,490 --> 01:39:51,210 discussion that that's why we'd like to continue. Can you give us an updated draft and 1261 01:39:51,210 --> 01:39:55,130 the next one and then highlight the changes you've made to them? 1262 01:39:55,410 --> 01:39:56,430 And then I did. 1263 01:39:56,990 --> 01:40:01,770 Does anybody opposed to doing other working meetings next in two weeks? 1264 01:40:02,570 --> 01:40:06,570 I think there's some basics and massive, some humor. 1265 01:40:07,070 --> 01:40:08,110 Good job. 1266 01:40:08,590 --> 01:40:10,310 There's a whole lot. 1267 01:40:10,550 --> 01:40:11,550 I don't know if I'm here. 1268 01:40:12,270 --> 01:40:12,410 Yes. 1269 01:40:13,590 --> 01:40:14,690 Good job. 1270 01:40:16,610 --> 01:40:18,890 We could jump through and dump it out. 1271 01:40:19,130 --> 01:40:20,910 We'd like to see an interferer. 1272 01:40:22,110 --> 01:40:23,430 I'm the ADHD. 1273 01:40:24,050 --> 01:40:27,110 So I don't mind that I won't be in town. 1274 01:40:27,110 --> 01:40:34,410 Do you want me to look at it? I can start to get on the Zoom. Okay, I am swaying part of the deeper. 1275 01:40:34,610 --> 01:40:38,690 Not probably being that same situation. I don't even remember it very now. 1276 01:40:40,370 --> 01:40:48,310 Could you be joining by electronic me? I could do that. All you the period of person are probably, you know, 1277 01:40:48,310 --> 01:40:57,950 It might be, I guess, if you're on electronically, it might make the review a little bit more difficult. 1278 01:41:00,050 --> 01:41:02,550 Yeah, I tend to be near. 1279 01:41:03,790 --> 01:41:10,310 But if something happens, because of the upper floor and before, it'll be a warm afternoon. 1280 01:41:10,790 --> 01:41:11,530 Some appointments. 1281 01:41:12,590 --> 01:41:15,590 But I plan on being here unless something changes. 1282 01:41:15,590 --> 01:41:20,670 Okay, well, if you plan on being here, what's plan on doing get extra view in two weeks. 1283 01:41:22,950 --> 01:41:29,450 And then, is it going to look like you're going to send changes and we're going to make comments like we did before. 1284 01:41:30,250 --> 01:41:36,050 Yeah, well, so what we'll do is, I'll make these changes that we've talked about. 1285 01:41:36,050 --> 01:41:44,310 Then we'll just, again, come back and say, go through things and maybe, hey, we've already read this. 1286 01:41:44,650 --> 01:41:45,990 So, and I guess that's a question. 1287 01:41:46,510 --> 01:41:50,970 If something's in there already, do you want it back again? 1288 01:41:52,090 --> 01:41:54,290 I guess it would have to come before public hearing anyway. 1289 01:41:54,910 --> 01:41:55,310 So, yes. 1290 01:41:55,310 --> 01:41:59,510 I'll keep it in and then I'll maybe have like a green or some other color, 1291 01:41:59,650 --> 01:42:02,650 and then I'll show things that come from this meeting. 1292 01:42:02,650 --> 01:42:10,270 as in their additions or relations about the green or something, and then we'll talk about 1293 01:42:10,270 --> 01:42:17,150 these things from Robert and Wolves, and there's going to be some changes in this stuff already, 1294 01:42:17,970 --> 01:42:24,210 so this is this kind of a, hey, this is what we're looking at, but in all change in the next, 1295 01:42:24,690 --> 01:42:31,630 if we be there too, but I can have this all out here, no stare too, and then we can have again 1296 01:42:31,630 --> 01:42:36,570 page by page with you to go that quickly because we've already got solutions to sign in. 1297 01:42:36,610 --> 01:42:39,110 And you're going to send it to the computer for the information. 1298 01:42:40,010 --> 01:42:40,090 Yep. 1299 01:42:40,150 --> 01:42:42,770 And then you, perfect. 1300 01:42:43,650 --> 01:42:43,950 All right. 1301 01:42:45,150 --> 01:42:47,770 So I think we'll have to be here a little bit more. 1302 01:42:47,970 --> 01:42:49,390 We're at the end of the workshop. 1303 01:42:51,050 --> 01:42:53,170 So next we have future considerations. 1304 01:42:54,450 --> 01:42:54,790 Okay. 1305 01:42:55,650 --> 01:43:02,170 I think the thing that strikes me is, I think this six month more chart and was passed 1306 01:43:02,170 --> 01:43:04,250 through data centers, right? 1307 01:43:05,310 --> 01:43:10,710 And that means we've got six months to produce something 1308 01:43:10,710 --> 01:43:15,510 on data centers that guess through the county commission. 1309 01:43:16,210 --> 01:43:19,070 And so I would like to make sure that's the priority. 1310 01:43:19,270 --> 01:43:21,370 And I think maybe I heard something about, 1311 01:43:21,650 --> 01:43:24,390 well, we might give it to somebody. 1312 01:43:24,690 --> 01:43:29,090 It's sunrise, but if it was given to sunrise, 1313 01:43:29,090 --> 01:43:35,770 in terms of sense, it ought to be moved to the top of the list because it really is a six 1314 01:43:35,770 --> 01:43:46,130 months more dormant and it's an important issue. So that's a big point, and my response 1315 01:43:46,130 --> 01:43:52,450 and it's up to the current commission what they want to do, but Washington County has 1316 01:43:53,190 --> 01:43:59,350 it's an ordinance, it's really good, and it's been there for a little while, even though 1317 01:43:59,350 --> 01:44:06,910 people work aware of it. But it's kind of at that degree of use, sort of times, kind of like 1318 01:44:06,910 --> 01:44:11,350 with the sexually oriented businesses in a provost city, and they went through the whole thing 1319 01:44:11,350 --> 01:44:15,230 that the state Supreme Court, well, that kind of stuff, right? So then everybody about it, 1320 01:44:15,230 --> 01:44:18,610 probably a city security business account. 1321 01:44:20,410 --> 01:44:28,230 So my intent is to go through Washington County's 1322 01:44:30,410 --> 01:44:36,550 data singer or news, because they have a thing where they've got 1323 01:44:36,550 --> 01:44:41,270 only up to certain amount of size, and there's some differences there. 1324 01:44:41,270 --> 01:44:45,450 So there's a few things that we aim in to change this. 1325 01:44:45,650 --> 01:44:48,950 Some things that are, it's kind of a nice staff, right? 1326 01:44:49,310 --> 01:44:50,890 Or something that's don't even require it. 1327 01:44:51,250 --> 01:44:55,250 So if the school district has a server and 1328 01:44:55,250 --> 01:44:57,130 based on the school district office, 1329 01:44:57,690 --> 01:44:58,970 they don't have to come in and get a commission. 1330 01:45:00,000 --> 01:45:10,900 Well, then depending upon the size and all of that, then it goes to higher level of approval. So that's kind of where it was going to start with. 1331 01:45:10,920 --> 01:45:15,840 And then that's a great idea that you've got to go off of. 1332 01:45:16,280 --> 01:45:25,720 Other words, if you know, and you're in your search, eventually there must be a range of these things. 1333 01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:31,740 What communities have done, it would be kind of interesting that, I mean, I'd be perfectly 1334 01:45:31,740 --> 01:45:38,400 willing to look at theirs and I'd be perfectly willing to look at three or four different 1335 01:45:38,400 --> 01:45:46,400 places and it probably, sort of, right, it would be a range of alternatives to almost 1336 01:45:46,400 --> 01:45:54,300 bounding them to accepting a fairly big size data center because then we could see the options 1337 01:45:55,400 --> 01:46:17,060 And then I assume, since I guess it would be a land use code, we would have certainly a public hearing, but it would be very nice. I believe to have a public workshop, so we could kind of get whatever community input there is about, you know, how many jobs it could create or what it's environmental impacts might be. 1338 01:46:17,060 --> 01:46:29,500 So I'd probably recommend both of those things, but I would love to see a kind of range of them if there is a range out there. 1339 01:46:29,740 --> 01:46:33,680 Just for a quick, so I don't believe it will send you my question at range. 1340 01:46:34,340 --> 01:46:34,520 Yes, yes. 1341 01:46:35,020 --> 01:46:41,000 And then the reason this is a representative cutler right now is actually working on that legislation for the definitions. 1342 01:46:41,800 --> 01:46:47,040 So until things are defined, even when we were putting forth our moratorium, the hardest part of it, 1343 01:46:47,040 --> 01:46:48,740 is the definitions, right? 1344 01:46:48,980 --> 01:46:51,100 And so, until the state of Utah really 1345 01:46:51,100 --> 01:46:53,740 comes out with those definitions are 1346 01:46:53,740 --> 01:46:55,960 and ended up related to one of the big problems, 1347 01:46:56,280 --> 01:46:58,060 which deals with size, right? 1348 01:46:58,180 --> 01:47:00,080 So, how do you define the sizes of it? 1349 01:47:00,460 --> 01:47:01,780 I don't think that you've ever seen anybody 1350 01:47:01,780 --> 01:47:02,800 that's going to go ahead and say, 1351 01:47:02,920 --> 01:47:04,380 we're going to step out and say this, 1352 01:47:04,660 --> 01:47:06,480 because the definitions that we're going to have 1353 01:47:06,480 --> 01:47:08,940 might be against what Utah's dictation is. 1354 01:47:08,940 --> 01:47:11,180 We can extend that word to word for cause. 1355 01:47:11,860 --> 01:47:15,340 That cause would be you that the state is working 1356 01:47:15,340 --> 01:47:19,780 you're going to have to afford goods and then move back to what's the, if we think that 1357 01:47:19,780 --> 01:47:25,400 or official position, you're correct. You can use that as our boss. We have to think 1358 01:47:25,400 --> 01:47:31,420 that on official position. So it would, you know, instead, the other interesting thing 1359 01:47:31,420 --> 01:47:36,600 that's happening is I think due to a lot of the public pressure, the technology is changing 1360 01:47:36,600 --> 01:47:40,820 in the water requirements or going down in the power of the requirements or going down. 1361 01:47:40,820 --> 01:47:44,940 Yes. That whole industry is in a big state of 1362 01:47:44,940 --> 01:47:49,260 It is an amazing energy. 1363 01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:53,940 Because these right here, they work from it. 1364 01:47:53,960 --> 01:47:54,660 Yeah, good. 1365 01:47:55,160 --> 01:47:56,420 I mean, everything we do. 1366 01:47:56,420 --> 01:47:58,460 A tonicals from those things go everywhere. 1367 01:47:59,680 --> 01:48:00,220 It's incredible. 1368 01:48:00,840 --> 01:48:01,260 Incredible. 1369 01:48:02,040 --> 01:48:04,080 So, you know, it's the bacon theory. 1370 01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:08,060 You know, like bacon, you got to raise pigs. 1371 01:48:08,600 --> 01:48:09,900 You know what's right there? 1372 01:48:09,960 --> 01:48:11,080 So, we'll build those everybody. 1373 01:48:11,300 --> 01:48:12,380 We've got to have you in there. 1374 01:48:12,780 --> 01:48:14,860 I mean, so I would just say, 1375 01:48:14,860 --> 01:48:23,000 Yeah, I would appreciate shame of Washington, Kathy House, and then would it be the place to go to get away to their ordinance? 1376 01:48:23,540 --> 01:48:25,000 I think I got it, I guess. 1377 01:48:25,160 --> 01:48:31,260 So that would be signing up to the, you know, I think Mission Andrew, I mean, anything else for future? 1378 01:48:31,460 --> 01:48:32,420 Can I see what I think? 1379 01:48:32,860 --> 01:48:36,340 I would just like to update from sunrise and we're going to. 1380 01:48:37,840 --> 01:48:40,860 Yeah, and I did talk with him. 1381 01:48:40,860 --> 01:48:52,120 all days ago. And he's got things raised, got to, he's going to do like a couple chapters at a time. 1382 01:48:52,520 --> 01:49:00,180 So it's not like again fed through a pyros, he'll start dropping those couple chapters of 1383 01:49:00,180 --> 01:49:09,120 as it gets those. So I'll talk with the game and see if he can start dropping 1384 01:49:09,120 --> 01:49:13,960 those or be on line or something maybe on his workshop or something. 1385 01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:17,700 And even if we could just start reviewing and having our thoughts together, 1386 01:49:18,020 --> 01:49:23,540 pretty workshop it. I do think it was helpful that he read or read it, but this is not 1387 01:49:23,540 --> 01:49:28,800 policy writing. This is cleaning up. What needs clean that? 1388 01:49:28,800 --> 01:49:38,280 It is a lot easier to focus on the code itself when we remember that we're just doing, you know, we're not trying to rewrite anything at this number. 1389 01:49:38,560 --> 01:49:46,060 I think Trish raised to concern about speed, and I think separating the policy from the structure of the document is important. 1390 01:49:46,700 --> 01:49:51,360 Yes, there's one. There are policy things that need to be addressed. 1391 01:49:51,680 --> 01:49:55,400 Absolutely. We can do those at some point in that as well. 1392 01:49:55,400 --> 01:49:59,400 But I think speed in order to clean up what's there. 1393 01:49:59,540 --> 01:50:01,780 So we don't continue to have to tell people 1394 01:50:01,780 --> 01:50:04,080 to come back or to raise admit applications 1395 01:50:04,980 --> 01:50:07,440 or that's a big part of it. 1396 01:50:07,640 --> 01:50:11,920 So when I used to go around and help communities 1397 01:50:11,920 --> 01:50:16,640 with their general plans and subdoving 1398 01:50:16,640 --> 01:50:19,840 ordinances and such, I always ask them, 1399 01:50:19,960 --> 01:50:22,800 is there something that you're doing that works, 1400 01:50:22,940 --> 01:50:24,300 what it's not in the code? 1401 01:50:24,300 --> 01:50:31,480 So for us, I went to this one city and it said that there were six copies of the subdivision or part of the subdivision plant. 1402 01:50:31,740 --> 01:50:35,300 Right, because it's back when it printed, yeah, these people's right there. 1403 01:50:35,880 --> 01:50:42,740 I said, okay, we're on the go and said, well, one bus at the engineer, one bus at the time, one bus at the public works. 1404 01:50:43,660 --> 01:50:49,160 One goes to the city attorney and we throw the other two away. 1405 01:50:53,020 --> 01:50:59,000 Well, that's what's in the code, so we tell people they have to submit six and then we throw two of them away. 1406 01:50:59,460 --> 01:51:02,880 But he okay, they're four lobbies. 1407 01:51:02,880 --> 01:51:04,860 And you know, they're even other things. 1408 01:51:05,180 --> 01:51:10,300 Mary, I mentioned this to you, I don't long months or a year ago, maybe. 1409 01:51:10,320 --> 01:51:16,400 But we actually, in our 90s code, we actually don't allow a street-facing garage door, right? 1410 01:51:16,400 --> 01:51:21,440 that was put in years ago and half the houses in this money have street-facing 1411 01:51:21,440 --> 01:51:25,860 grudges. No, you didn't have it. You just have to have your garage by feet 1412 01:51:25,860 --> 01:51:29,860 back from the house. Yeah, that's right. The only one that ever did, it was Dan 1413 01:51:29,860 --> 01:51:33,880 by it. Yeah, that's better. Yeah, that's better. Yeah, that's a stuffy day. 1414 01:51:33,980 --> 01:51:37,520 Yeah, you're probably not going to put it on. No, they look like it. 1415 01:51:38,220 --> 01:51:42,120 Anyway, that's an example of another one just like you said. That's just 1416 01:51:42,120 --> 01:51:47,120 and that's not enforced, it's not going to be enforced without taking it out. 1417 01:51:48,020 --> 01:51:50,440 I think Brandon has some things to do with this. 1418 01:51:50,760 --> 01:51:52,320 I'll do a pose for sure. 1419 01:51:52,600 --> 01:51:52,960 I'm sorry. 1420 01:51:54,360 --> 01:51:57,940 So just kind of like being here for seven months, 1421 01:51:58,280 --> 01:51:59,940 most of what has come, of course, 1422 01:52:01,340 --> 01:52:02,800 are reason requests. 1423 01:52:04,080 --> 01:52:08,980 And they sort of get categorically denied right now, 1424 01:52:08,980 --> 01:52:11,460 although in the general plan, 1425 01:52:11,460 --> 01:52:18,960 you call my Bible, you know, the chapter in the journal plan, that is where the county is intending to go. 1426 01:52:19,420 --> 01:52:23,540 So to me, just seven months of observation, that's a big disconnect. 1427 01:52:24,820 --> 01:52:29,880 The county says, we're going here, land use, or land owner comes and says, 1428 01:52:30,000 --> 01:52:46,520 Like a reason, and they're all denied. So at what point does the, you know, just the code actually be what the county said it was going to be? Is that happening in this rewrite of the land use code? 1429 01:52:46,520 --> 01:52:56,980 No, and it's not going to be great with our own commissioners, but until state requires it, so in Nevada, for instance, 1430 01:52:57,460 --> 01:53:00,020 your zoning has to be consistent with your general plan. 1431 01:53:00,580 --> 01:53:07,340 If you've got this commercial and somebody wants to come in and choose it to commercial, that happens. 1432 01:53:07,340 --> 01:53:16,640 because it's state law, and it's been state law since the late 80s in Nevada, and yet others 1433 01:53:16,640 --> 01:53:25,300 discretion given to the legislative body, so the council's kind of commissions that they don't 1434 01:53:25,300 --> 01:53:35,520 have to be consistent with the general plan. I found until state law changes or until the 1435 01:53:35,520 --> 01:53:37,640 and the commission says to them themselves, 1436 01:53:38,280 --> 01:53:40,160 we want to be consistent with this. 1437 01:53:41,980 --> 01:53:42,840 There are things to say. 1438 01:53:42,900 --> 01:53:44,340 By the way, I'm proud of the business. 1439 01:53:44,340 --> 01:53:44,720 Anybody's name. 1440 01:53:45,280 --> 01:53:46,400 This one is all right. 1441 01:53:46,660 --> 01:53:49,400 The general plan is very behind as well. 1442 01:53:49,600 --> 01:53:49,720 Right. 1443 01:53:49,880 --> 01:53:54,100 It's a 2030 general plan, and we still have 10 sections. 1444 01:53:54,760 --> 01:53:56,240 You're not completely filled out yet. 1445 01:53:56,740 --> 01:53:59,400 So like 2030 is, that's what we're going to do. 1446 01:53:59,420 --> 01:54:00,700 That's not what I mean up. 1447 01:54:01,100 --> 01:54:03,340 So I mean, we're kind of telling this those to be. 1448 01:54:03,340 --> 01:54:06,880 you look at the future land use map and quite a few is the same, right? 1449 01:54:06,980 --> 01:54:10,220 The line that we've set up is actually only three years away. 1450 01:54:11,220 --> 01:54:15,100 The future land use plan really has not been integrated into land use. 1451 01:54:15,320 --> 01:54:15,960 That's everything. 1452 01:54:16,360 --> 01:54:16,980 And so you're that. 1453 01:54:17,160 --> 01:54:17,460 It is. 1454 01:54:17,980 --> 01:54:18,340 I'm sorry. 1455 01:54:18,340 --> 01:54:19,000 Fire is everything. 1456 01:54:19,220 --> 01:54:21,480 All right, that's it. I'm wondering that. 1457 01:54:21,660 --> 01:54:24,720 But just just watching what has come before us. 1458 01:54:24,780 --> 01:54:27,500 They're not having been a part of any of this before. 1459 01:54:28,700 --> 01:54:33,240 To me, that's what I'm seeing the most conflict and we will continue to see that 1460 01:54:33,240 --> 01:54:36,380 until we have a land use code update. 1461 01:54:36,620 --> 01:54:39,980 That is, but we're saying that is not happening this year. 1462 01:54:40,960 --> 01:54:43,000 So there's land use code in this general plan. 1463 01:54:43,240 --> 01:54:43,940 Yeah, yeah. 1464 01:54:44,080 --> 01:54:48,500 But we're not going to write the general plan into the land use code this year. 1465 01:54:48,620 --> 01:54:50,560 It works the other way of direction, right? 1466 01:54:51,060 --> 01:54:51,880 Your land use code. 1467 01:54:51,880 --> 01:54:52,520 You're not going to save the land use code. 1468 01:54:52,760 --> 01:54:52,960 No, fine. 1469 01:54:53,700 --> 01:54:57,100 But I just could support the general plan. 1470 01:54:57,160 --> 01:54:59,720 Yeah, but I'm saying, but we're how that chapter 1471 01:54:59,720 --> 01:55:02,460 for land use in the general plan. 1472 01:55:02,460 --> 01:55:19,640 So in, that was like the first thing I got handed was that booklet and so in my mind that's like, you know, what we're working towards, but I don't see it's working towards it and all I feel is conflict with every person who comes to our team and wants to do something. 1473 01:55:19,980 --> 01:55:25,560 Sarah, I think there's the way I look at it, there's kind of two types of applicants coming in. 1474 01:55:25,560 --> 01:55:30,560 Some of them refer to the future ladies' plan, others don't. 1475 01:55:30,880 --> 01:55:33,880 And the ones that don't refer to future ladies' plan, 1476 01:55:33,980 --> 01:55:37,280 they're referring to what they're not to do, 1477 01:55:37,380 --> 01:55:39,180 and that existing line use code. 1478 01:55:40,460 --> 01:55:42,380 Those, I mean, we've been evaluating those 1479 01:55:42,380 --> 01:55:44,020 and many of those kind of rules. 1480 01:55:44,880 --> 01:55:52,080 Once they're referred to, that's not set up in a way 1481 01:55:52,080 --> 01:55:56,000 that you can refer to, you're actually able to get what it's in language school. 1482 01:55:56,820 --> 01:55:58,380 Because the terms are different. 1483 01:55:58,660 --> 01:56:02,200 The math terms are different than what we have in the land use code. 1484 01:56:02,380 --> 01:56:05,360 We also can't rewrite our land use code. 1485 01:56:05,600 --> 01:56:09,020 When we have so many broken pieces in part, 1486 01:56:09,040 --> 01:56:16,660 we need to clean up the code we have to have a viable document to work from to update these. 1487 01:56:16,680 --> 01:56:21,360 So that's a policy decision about the county commission. 1488 01:56:21,360 --> 01:56:28,860 And if they want to be consistent with the general plan that they adopted, I'm going to 1489 01:56:28,860 --> 01:56:30,100 totalise upon that. 1490 01:56:30,260 --> 01:56:35,060 But that's a decision of the County Commission, because the state has not made that 1491 01:56:35,060 --> 01:56:36,560 decision yet. 1492 01:56:37,160 --> 01:56:42,100 But as you can see, as we go through the ladies' code, and the bylaws and all those good 1493 01:56:42,100 --> 01:56:50,580 things, there has been a study movement by the state legislature to take away discretion. 1494 01:56:50,580 --> 01:56:57,620 because a lot of legislators are realtors, developers, etc. 1495 01:56:59,180 --> 01:57:02,500 And some of them comes up against the community 1496 01:57:02,500 --> 01:57:05,760 and didn't like the decision that was made. 1497 01:57:06,300 --> 01:57:09,980 Then we kind of ended up looking forward to loosen up 1498 01:57:09,980 --> 01:57:11,560 fewer of fewer things. 1499 01:57:11,900 --> 01:57:14,520 So the decisions don't kind of apply me to actually work. 1500 01:57:14,900 --> 01:57:17,860 So the decisions are moving towards staff of a rule 1501 01:57:17,860 --> 01:57:21,840 And so just to know, well, let's take you a little bit. 1502 01:57:21,960 --> 01:57:26,080 Honestly, I get that and it's some regard right now to what? 1503 01:57:26,340 --> 01:57:29,840 I mean, what are survivors or realtors or even property owner? 1504 01:57:30,040 --> 01:57:33,860 If you've got a clear set of requirements, you should be able to do it. 1505 01:57:34,460 --> 01:57:34,500 Exactly. 1506 01:57:34,700 --> 01:57:36,440 But we don't have the clear set of requirements. 1507 01:57:37,320 --> 01:57:38,300 That's what I'm talking about. 1508 01:57:41,260 --> 01:57:46,200 Yeah, I mean, good points happen in those conversations because 1509 01:57:46,200 --> 01:57:50,120 If they are referring to the future landies or the general plan, 1510 01:57:51,680 --> 01:57:57,160 oh, the future map, of course you want to approve something because they are already looking 1511 01:57:57,160 --> 01:58:03,500 ahead and they understand the purpose of where they're going, but if we don't have a land use code that 1512 01:58:03,500 --> 01:58:17,620 talks to that, then we create a situation that doesn't allow the county any kind of 1513 01:58:17,620 --> 01:58:21,460 or just feel like something we become the roadblock, 1514 01:58:21,680 --> 01:58:24,480 whether or not our antiquated land use code, 1515 01:58:25,000 --> 01:58:26,260 but the county's vision, 1516 01:58:26,340 --> 01:58:29,380 the county commission's vision of where you want it to go. 1517 01:58:29,720 --> 01:58:33,240 So that's why it's like what's a couple of times. 1518 01:58:34,460 --> 01:58:37,100 For a while, you're so many years. 1519 01:58:37,360 --> 01:58:38,960 I mean, you're seeing it out loud. 1520 01:58:40,180 --> 01:58:44,900 Well, just that's just my observation from seven months. 1521 01:58:44,900 --> 01:58:46,960 I mean, I mean, I'm not. 1522 01:58:47,680 --> 01:58:53,060 See, this, this, this, you know, the future 90s plan of Spanish Valley. 1523 01:58:54,300 --> 01:59:02,040 If the bank mission or current commission has buyers or more on that, we need to fix it. 1524 01:59:02,640 --> 01:59:06,880 So that's, again, a policy decision by others. 1525 01:59:08,180 --> 01:59:12,600 You doubt that this is really, you know, future 90s vision. 1526 01:59:12,600 --> 01:59:15,000 if it's not, you go by it or more, 1527 01:59:15,080 --> 01:59:18,480 that's condition, where it is, something else. 1528 01:59:18,480 --> 01:59:20,360 There's nothing wrong with saying, 1529 01:59:21,200 --> 01:59:23,900 okay, here's our five to 10 universities, 1530 01:59:24,220 --> 01:59:26,540 and here's our 10 to 20 universities, 1531 01:59:26,720 --> 01:59:28,560 our past that's growing your vision. 1532 01:59:29,660 --> 01:59:31,800 So, all people are trained equal, 1533 01:59:32,160 --> 01:59:35,040 not all properties are not trained equal, 1534 01:59:35,300 --> 01:59:39,520 and some property is more mature for development, 1535 01:59:39,520 --> 01:59:44,820 although you want this in the future, you don't want it the next 10 years. 1536 01:59:46,040 --> 01:59:51,840 So the general plan should be based out into the next five 10 years after that, 1537 01:59:51,940 --> 01:59:55,600 which phase is right, and then you're going to have this where you can have this 1538 01:59:55,600 --> 01:59:59,640 somebody wants something now, then they need to put in the infrastructure. 1539 02:00:00,000 --> 02:00:05,800 But make sure that it works with what you want in the future in that area. 1540 02:00:05,820 --> 02:00:12,720 On the traffic studies, all of them be asking. And you said, you know, we've got to decide, we're kind of telling you, we want to be. 1541 02:00:12,860 --> 02:00:22,240 That would happen. Or we're okay. And that's when I looked at, oh, and what it was. So, as I talked about 1542 02:00:22,240 --> 02:00:25,860 Now, according to Calazvi, in 10,000 square feet, Africa, 1543 02:00:26,000 --> 02:00:30,840 Calazvi in 20,000, when it Calazvi in 40,000 instead of 43, 1544 02:00:31,160 --> 02:00:40,740 560 or the half or fourth of that, I looked through the other 29 counties 1545 02:00:40,740 --> 02:00:42,120 to see what they have. 1546 02:00:42,360 --> 02:00:44,980 In the end, for instance, Utah County. 1547 02:00:45,500 --> 02:00:47,500 Almost a million people live there. 1548 02:00:47,800 --> 02:00:49,980 There's a 8,000 in the country of the area. 1549 02:00:49,980 --> 02:00:54,360 There are minimum lot of size as five acres, 1550 02:00:55,100 --> 02:00:58,780 the most of their zoning is 20 acre, plus size is, 1551 02:01:00,300 --> 02:01:03,440 that are a rural county, even with a million people, right? 1552 02:01:03,820 --> 02:01:06,120 That's the choice that the county has made. 1553 02:01:06,580 --> 02:01:10,880 There's no utilities, no more nothing, right? 1554 02:01:11,460 --> 02:01:16,320 You get a haul, your trash to the garbage dump or projects. 1555 02:01:16,560 --> 02:01:18,540 But otherwise you're in a syndicate tumble. 1556 02:01:18,540 --> 02:01:20,760 And I'd always give a good thing to the city today. 1557 02:01:21,700 --> 02:01:24,160 But the city could easily can accelerate right here. 1558 02:01:24,160 --> 02:01:29,260 Craig County has developed differently and you've got to ask your question, 1559 02:01:29,560 --> 02:01:31,540 do you want to continue to do that? 1560 02:01:34,040 --> 02:01:38,750 And the fact of that, I saw, when I look at the, whatever the, 1561 02:01:38,850 --> 02:01:42,390 it is from development and prosperity value of plan, 1562 02:01:42,830 --> 02:01:45,250 you know, it is very, it is kind of big. 1563 02:01:45,250 --> 02:02:14,290 says, you know, well, we've got output some more density or the center more density and protect the edges and all we've got to protect some murals now because we all have some murals stuff and some development up close to my lab it makes kind of general sense for the course that's not as only man and there's a lot of values put in there and as somebody said the other day which is exactly what people did they put little tags or pins same where would you like to vote. 1564 02:02:15,310 --> 02:02:19,370 I don't like it around the Spanish curial area. 1565 02:02:19,450 --> 02:02:23,350 I'd like to hear around these particular major highways, 1566 02:02:24,290 --> 02:02:25,890 but it's still vague. 1567 02:02:25,990 --> 02:02:28,770 I mean, it's like, well, they're 18th-Hend, 1568 02:02:28,850 --> 02:02:31,430 quit here, only 10, quit here. 1569 02:02:31,950 --> 02:02:34,530 And so it is, we really, you know, 1570 02:02:34,530 --> 02:02:37,330 I had thought what we were going to do after doing 1571 02:02:37,330 --> 02:02:41,810 that future land use map was almost immediately 1572 02:02:43,150 --> 02:02:45,930 We do something that we get as toward a zoning map. 1573 02:02:47,350 --> 02:02:49,290 It's time we did not do it. 1574 02:02:49,450 --> 02:02:51,030 We did not get five four. 1575 02:02:51,350 --> 02:02:51,950 And I was. 1576 02:02:52,490 --> 02:02:53,150 Yeah, yeah. 1577 02:02:53,370 --> 02:02:54,370 You told me about it. 1578 02:02:54,410 --> 02:02:54,550 Okay. 1579 02:02:54,950 --> 02:02:55,810 It's all of it. 1580 02:02:55,810 --> 02:02:57,050 Mary's spread the rumor. 1581 02:02:57,970 --> 02:02:59,190 She's excited about it. 1582 02:02:59,350 --> 02:02:59,750 And I told you. 1583 02:03:00,230 --> 02:03:00,970 I told you. 1584 02:03:00,990 --> 02:03:01,370 I told you. 1585 02:03:01,370 --> 02:03:02,690 I told you. 1586 02:03:02,830 --> 02:03:03,150 I told you. 1587 02:03:03,150 --> 02:03:03,270 I told you. 1588 02:03:05,210 --> 02:03:05,470 I told you. 1589 02:03:05,590 --> 02:03:07,450 So maybe that's a good consideration. 1590 02:03:08,310 --> 02:03:10,990 I was looking at a realistic timeline for the planning commission. 1591 02:03:10,990 --> 02:03:15,690 have these kinds of conversations? Well, I think that would we plan on with 1592 02:03:15,690 --> 02:03:19,090 sub-dating land use code first because they would sort of throw from the 1593 02:03:19,090 --> 02:03:24,370 memo all on the zoning trade. But then again, that's the question that I have 1594 02:03:24,370 --> 02:03:29,050 because I have people telling me to me what in zone change is or whatever I'm 1595 02:03:29,050 --> 02:03:29,850 telling you. 1596 02:03:31,880 --> 02:03:36,340 Say, well, I don't know nothing. Yeah, could I go to top positions? Well, 1597 02:03:37,040 --> 02:03:39,620 you can be combined with the general plan, 1598 02:03:42,340 --> 02:03:44,120 but there's no idea how I was going to 1599 02:03:44,120 --> 02:03:50,280 That question has come up with a number of times here and there are answers always been the same. 1600 02:03:50,600 --> 02:03:51,820 We have a line you scope today. 1601 02:03:52,560 --> 02:03:54,800 You need to be compliant with today's 90s. 1602 02:03:55,140 --> 02:03:58,140 When we release the new one, that will give you a different option. 1603 02:03:58,580 --> 02:04:00,000 You'll have to be coming behind the window. 1604 02:04:00,240 --> 02:04:02,160 And the county council can be commissioned. 1605 02:04:03,000 --> 02:04:04,980 As well as be cast for me. 1606 02:04:05,300 --> 02:04:06,900 Can just say no for no reason. 1607 02:04:07,700 --> 02:04:08,860 I just thought about it. 1608 02:04:08,860 --> 02:04:10,840 They can just say no or they just say yes. 1609 02:04:11,220 --> 02:04:11,760 And that's happened. 1610 02:04:11,760 --> 02:04:12,120 as far as sign language? 1611 02:04:12,460 --> 02:04:14,540 But I should give thechool 1612 02:04:14,540 --> 02:04:15,780 to fore osith, to 1613 02:04:15,780 --> 02:04:18,500 make an kind commission, it 1614 02:04:18,500 --> 02:04:19,230 has bipartisan wores 1615 02:04:19,920 --> 02:04:20,980 on the Future Lunar 1616 02:04:20,980 --> 02:04:22,400 East Plan, a 1617 02:04:22,400 --> 02:04:22,990 Spanish valley. 1618 02:04:24,060 --> 02:04:24,740 We need to fix 1619 02:04:24,740 --> 02:04:25,500 that. I don't think 1620 02:04:25,500 --> 02:04:26,980 so, Andrew, that was 1621 02:04:26,980 --> 02:04:27,460 just an 1622 02:04:27,460 --> 02:04:28,900 initial step. I think we need 1623 02:04:28,900 --> 02:04:30,460 to go and we conduct this 1624 02:04:30,460 --> 02:04:31,680 about this little bit today. 1625 02:04:32,100 --> 02:04:33,180 It faced the next step 1626 02:04:33,180 --> 02:04:34,080 to go in的是oting 1627 02:04:34,080 --> 02:04:35,220 is what I proposed. 1628 02:04:35,900 --> 02:04:36,880 I think it's a 1629 02:04:41,200 --> 02:04:41,740 very 1630 02:04:41,740 --> 02:04:44,560 you take that plateau area of this room and they never 1631 02:04:44,560 --> 02:04:45,640 put a little hole. 1632 02:04:45,820 --> 02:04:48,320 And I just know, but meaning like she's 1633 02:04:48,320 --> 02:04:50,240 in now, I mean, we're not going to put a hard 1634 02:04:50,240 --> 02:04:51,860 stuff, everybody in a zone. 1635 02:04:51,880 --> 02:04:55,060 And we're having this meeting and you talk about it. 1636 02:04:55,140 --> 02:04:57,400 Little, I wouldn't say neighbor was, but I 1637 02:04:57,400 --> 02:04:59,740 however you want to define it, peace by peace. 1638 02:05:00,260 --> 02:05:01,680 And because what happened with the future, 1639 02:05:01,780 --> 02:05:04,840 man, he's put map, future land is plan. 1640 02:05:05,000 --> 02:05:06,700 I was at three of those five meetings. 1641 02:05:06,740 --> 02:05:07,940 I don't know how many he had. 1642 02:05:08,380 --> 02:05:11,720 But the reality is, we didn't have a huge 1643 02:05:11,720 --> 02:05:17,660 channel. You know as maybe there was 20 people I think I saw U.S. of, and people, you know, 1644 02:05:17,880 --> 02:05:23,240 for I would, I would, I would, I would, but I think I'll see it as being a very intensive 1645 02:05:23,240 --> 02:05:27,660 public process. I don't think we should make those decisions. I think the kind of commission should 1646 02:05:27,660 --> 02:05:32,980 make those fight, you know, I think those initial, you know, kind of planning should be 1647 02:05:33,660 --> 02:05:39,280 zoned by zoned, made of a binding river and then it moves forward, right? And you let people be involved 1648 02:05:39,280 --> 02:05:41,980 And then if they're not on ball, say, hey, I mean, believe me, 1649 02:05:42,080 --> 02:05:44,240 a couple of my neighbors are very happy with that map. 1650 02:05:44,480 --> 02:05:46,860 And I said, well, Eric, I'll use one person, for example, 1651 02:05:46,920 --> 02:05:49,540 I've said, you know, there were meetings. 1652 02:05:49,840 --> 02:05:50,880 I had no about those meetings. 1653 02:05:51,080 --> 02:05:53,720 It's like, so how do you give a little more intentional 1654 02:05:53,720 --> 02:05:54,900 and get people involved? 1655 02:05:55,280 --> 02:05:56,960 Well, sorry, whatever it might be. 1656 02:05:56,960 --> 02:05:59,420 If you've already done all of them, and I remember 1657 02:05:59,420 --> 02:06:02,040 because it was very rough and all that, you know, 1658 02:06:02,100 --> 02:06:04,080 and I put every time there was a COVID, 1659 02:06:04,240 --> 02:06:06,860 I'd scan it and put my opinion or whatever, it's good. 1660 02:06:06,860 --> 02:06:19,180 But so the people, I think the people who did that feel like, well, why did I bother to do that because now five years have passed and there's not a zoning map. 1661 02:06:28,820 --> 02:06:46,460 Well, so I think this conversation started with a request for an update on landing a soap gun, then why don't we take that as an extra gift if you could give us a 1662 02:06:46,460 --> 02:06:49,460 I didn't do this, maybe that's what I see. 1663 02:06:50,280 --> 02:06:52,040 Anything else in future consideration? 1664 02:06:52,560 --> 02:06:56,700 I just want to keep that at the forefront of our focus this year. 1665 02:06:57,520 --> 02:07:02,140 Last year, when I was appointed, our line news update was the focus. 1666 02:07:02,420 --> 02:07:06,960 We did not have one line news code conversation last year. 1667 02:07:07,360 --> 02:07:08,800 Quite a bit more progress than that. 1668 02:07:08,820 --> 02:07:10,240 We made way more. 1669 02:07:10,560 --> 02:07:12,060 And our console has to. 1670 02:07:12,200 --> 02:07:14,220 I just want to keep that. 1671 02:07:16,060 --> 02:07:22,640 everyone's on the bread burner. I don't want it to move to the back burner. I think the county commission that's on board more of this time 1672 02:07:22,640 --> 02:07:26,720 do at least we've sheld out the money and we've got the console and we're going to work. 1673 02:07:28,340 --> 02:07:29,980 But anything else for future concerns. 1674 02:07:31,120 --> 02:07:34,320 If not, all Jenna, what would you own? 1675 02:07:35,160 --> 02:07:38,840 Would you want to say thank-you, sir?! 1676 02:07:38,840 --> 02:07:39,960 Who's the assertent io? 1677 02:07:39,960 --> 02:07:40,220 I'm not going to say thank you seat! 1678 02:07:41,960 --> 02:07:43,780 Well, more than four long things goes? 1679 02:07:45,520 --> 02:07:46,120 Okay. 1680 02:07:47,620 --> 02:07:48,220 Jimmy, is an 1681 02:07:48,220 --> 02:07:48,500 Majesty. 1682 02:07:48,500 --> 02:07:50,000 Please. I respect the hand. 1683 02:07:50,240 --> 02:07:50,680 Thank you. 1684 02:07:50,780 --> 02:07:51,180 I respect the hand. 1685 02:07:51,340 --> 02:07:51,600 I respect the hand, I respect the hand. 1686 02:07:52,680 --> 02:07:53,980 That's what I would be like. 1687 02:07:55,280 --> 02:07:56,300 I would be like,