1 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:30,390 I'd like to open this family 2 00:00:30,400 --> 00:00:32,239 and we have commissioner Dean, 3 00:00:32,239 --> 00:00:34,399 Commissioner Hadler, Mr. Martinez, 4 00:00:34,399 --> 00:00:37,040 Commissioner Mans absent, Mr. Murie, 5 00:00:37,040 --> 00:00:39,680 Commissioner Winfield, myself 6 00:00:39,680 --> 00:00:41,920 with our county attorney Steven Sts, 7 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:43,760 Commission Administrator Laura Piner, 8 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:46,239 and our clerk. 9 00:00:46,239 --> 00:00:47,520 And with that, we'll stand for the 10 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:47,840 pledge of 11 00:00:47,840 --> 00:00:51,830 >> allegiance. 12 00:00:51,840 --> 00:00:54,719 I pledge to the flag of the United 13 00:00:54,719 --> 00:00:57,520 States of America and to the republic 14 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:00,399 for which it stands, one nation under 15 00:01:00,399 --> 00:01:03,440 God, indivisible, liberty and justice 16 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:10,230 for all. 17 00:01:10,240 --> 00:01:14,390 Okay. So, we 18 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:17,840 going to be starting out with a 19 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:23,270 department report with your 20 00:01:23,280 --> 00:01:26,400 know all the way to that one. We know 21 00:01:26,400 --> 00:01:28,159 how much you love these. 22 00:01:28,159 --> 00:01:31,280 >> I thought I was sick. Well, so we had a 23 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:33,759 maintenance department that's been 24 00:01:33,759 --> 00:01:35,439 postponed. 25 00:01:35,439 --> 00:01:37,119 You are second. You're actually our one 26 00:01:37,119 --> 00:01:39,840 and only 27 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:51,429 postponed. 28 00:01:51,439 --> 00:01:52,159 » You're letting me 29 00:01:52,159 --> 00:01:58,310 >> Oh, I got to let you share your screen. 30 00:01:58,320 --> 00:01:59,680 And bear with me because you know I'm 31 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:11,910 not technologically 32 00:02:11,920 --> 00:02:12,720 » you should be good. 33 00:02:12,720 --> 00:02:19,190 >> And then I just pick what 34 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:49,830 I do. 35 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:51,840 Where is it? 36 00:02:51,840 --> 00:02:55,990 Am 37 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:56,640 I sharing? 38 00:02:56,640 --> 00:03:08,790 >> You are 39 00:03:08,800 --> 00:03:18,390 the last one, please. 40 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,239 Um, 41 00:03:20,239 --> 00:03:22,159 good afternoon. And y'all know I'm 42 00:03:22,159 --> 00:03:24,560 Yordi. I'm the program director at the 43 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:27,599 senior center. Welcome to September. 44 00:03:27,599 --> 00:03:29,760 is actually healthy aging 45 00:03:29,760 --> 00:03:33,200 month. So, I'm here at the right time. 46 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:35,360 Okay. We started the new year with a new 47 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:37,840 bus driver and a brand new CDL. Thank 48 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,080 you guys very much. We really 49 00:03:40,080 --> 00:03:43,599 appreciate. Love her. Okay. beginning in 50 00:03:43,599 --> 00:03:46,640 2025 and continuing into 2026, there 51 00:03:46,640 --> 00:03:48,799 seems to be more awareness of senior 52 00:03:48,799 --> 00:03:54,640 issues or aging adult issues. And in 53 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,519 fall of last year, we had a listening 54 00:03:57,519 --> 00:03:59,680 session for Governor Cox's WISE 55 00:03:59,680 --> 00:04:02,000 initiative. The WISE Initiative focuses 56 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:04,480 on the four pillars of aging, wealth, 57 00:04:04,480 --> 00:04:07,599 independence, security, and engagement. 58 00:04:07,599 --> 00:04:09,200 This is a 10-year plan for the whole 59 00:04:09,200 --> 00:04:12,640 state of Utah and the final draft is on 60 00:04:12,640 --> 00:04:17,199 their department of human services under 61 00:04:17,199 --> 00:04:20,160 division of aging services. Um, also 62 00:04:20,160 --> 00:04:22,240 Governor Cox came down to give one of 63 00:04:22,240 --> 00:04:27,040 our seniors a Marlene Zosi an award. Um, 64 00:04:27,040 --> 00:04:30,560 the county also did a needs assessment. 65 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:33,040 Um, and it was well covered. a lot of um 66 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,759 people did it and it brought up Grand 67 00:04:35,759 --> 00:04:38,080 County's issues, senior issues which 68 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:40,240 include senior housing is a big thing 69 00:04:40,240 --> 00:04:43,360 and non-emergency medical transport. 70 00:04:43,360 --> 00:04:45,600 Karen, who's the head of our um council 71 00:04:45,600 --> 00:04:47,440 on aging, is a great advocate for our 72 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:50,320 seniors and is on the board of this 73 00:04:50,320 --> 00:04:52,000 healthcare special district trying to 74 00:04:52,000 --> 00:04:54,639 get senior housing. Our whole council on 75 00:04:54,639 --> 00:04:57,120 aging is great and they take care not 76 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,680 only of each other, the seniors in the 77 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:01,520 senior center, but they also help some 78 00:05:01,520 --> 00:05:02,880 of the people outside of the senior 79 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:05,759 center. I have met with the hospital 80 00:05:05,759 --> 00:05:08,000 administration to discuss non-emergency 81 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:10,479 medical transport and a new pilot 82 00:05:10,479 --> 00:05:12,240 program for Medicare that they're doing, 83 00:05:12,240 --> 00:05:15,840 which is dealing with chronic pain. 84 00:05:15,840 --> 00:05:21,600 A couple weeks later, I got a email from 85 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,600 an email. Yeah, it was a survey 86 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:27,199 regarding transportation in rural Utah 87 00:05:27,199 --> 00:05:29,680 by UD do and Ursta 88 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:32,000 and I also had a conversation with my 89 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:33,440 other surveyors and it's nice to know 90 00:05:33,440 --> 00:05:35,600 that southern Utah is we're thinking of 91 00:05:35,600 --> 00:05:37,919 our needs down here. We've also 92 00:05:37,919 --> 00:05:39,680 collaborated with other partners this 93 00:05:39,680 --> 00:05:42,320 year not only with our seniors but our 94 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:44,560 community as a whole. Um, the United 95 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:46,639 Ways has a birth to hospice program that 96 00:05:46,639 --> 00:05:48,560 they're doing and the new mothers are 97 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:51,680 going to start I think the 12th and 98 00:05:51,680 --> 00:05:53,120 they're going to do it for six weeks. 99 00:05:53,120 --> 00:05:55,199 That should be a great thing. The Utah 100 00:05:55,199 --> 00:05:57,600 Department of Justice Justice came down 101 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,240 to add awareness for regarding scams 102 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:03,120 that are targeted toward our seniors. 103 00:06:03,120 --> 00:06:04,960 Well, they're targeted everybody, but 104 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:06,800 we're worried about the seniors. We've 105 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:12,710 also became a station for American. 106 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:14,400 Um, and we had an intern that was 107 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:15,680 working with the hospital and she 108 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,919 volunteered to do something for us. So, 109 00:06:17,919 --> 00:06:19,759 she did a really great job making our 110 00:06:19,759 --> 00:06:21,520 resource guide for seniors and it's on 111 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:24,319 the county website. 112 00:06:24,319 --> 00:06:27,199 And we also have copies of this wonder. 113 00:06:27,199 --> 00:06:29,120 The Wellness Collective is offering a 114 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,440 weekly chair yoga class. They also have 115 00:06:31,440 --> 00:06:34,800 a grant for creative aging from Utah 116 00:06:34,800 --> 00:06:36,720 Division of Arts and they will start 117 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,039 it's a beginning class on pencil drawing 118 00:06:39,039 --> 00:06:40,720 and it will start sometime I think next 119 00:06:40,720 --> 00:06:44,000 month. And we also also have our other 120 00:06:44,000 --> 00:06:48,710 exercises that we do. 121 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,600 Um we continue to offer 122 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,840 um our coffee and tea conversation with 123 00:06:53,840 --> 00:06:55,759 some speakers who cover a wide variety 124 00:06:55,759 --> 00:06:58,160 of topics and organizations. Today we 125 00:06:58,160 --> 00:07:03,120 had Crystal Christy Russell from um the 126 00:07:03,120 --> 00:07:05,599 yeah aging services out of Salt Lake and 127 00:07:05,599 --> 00:07:08,400 she's over dementia and she did a 128 00:07:08,400 --> 00:07:10,639 program called dementia live which I've 129 00:07:10,639 --> 00:07:12,639 done which is really great and it just 130 00:07:12,639 --> 00:07:15,199 shows you that that in dementia so many 131 00:07:15,199 --> 00:07:17,520 other things other than your brain are 132 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:20,720 affected like your senses the way you 133 00:07:20,720 --> 00:07:23,280 feel the way you hear the way you see 134 00:07:23,280 --> 00:07:25,599 all that is is incorporated among 135 00:07:25,599 --> 00:07:30,629 dementia. It's a really great program. 136 00:07:30,639 --> 00:07:34,479 Okay, on to some more of the fun stuff. 137 00:07:34,479 --> 00:07:36,160 Um, 138 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,560 Chris decided this year not only to on 139 00:07:38,560 --> 00:07:43,039 Veterans Day, not only to um 140 00:07:43,039 --> 00:07:45,520 my words just went blank. We didn't 141 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:47,840 honor just only the vets because we do 142 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:49,520 still have vets in, you know, that 143 00:07:49,520 --> 00:07:52,400 served in Vietnam. And I think all of 144 00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,800 our World War II are gone. Korea is 145 00:07:54,800 --> 00:07:57,039 pretty gone, too. But we did it for the 146 00:07:57,039 --> 00:07:59,199 kids or for the mothers, the fathers, 147 00:07:59,199 --> 00:08:01,360 the wives of people that had served. So 148 00:08:01,360 --> 00:08:04,800 that it really went over good. Um I 149 00:08:04,800 --> 00:08:06,560 think our Christmas party this year was 150 00:08:06,560 --> 00:08:09,440 probably one of the best I've ever had. 151 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:12,879 Um Alan Valerie Brown did some Christmas 152 00:08:12,879 --> 00:08:15,759 country music for during happy hour. And 153 00:08:15,759 --> 00:08:18,160 after dinner, the Mar Music Fest sent a 154 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:20,160 great group in and it was really great. 155 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:25,270 It was a lovely evening. 156 00:08:25,280 --> 00:08:27,039 We started the year off with our chili 157 00:08:27,039 --> 00:08:31,039 cookoff and this year we had 40 guests 158 00:08:31,039 --> 00:08:33,599 and 14 different chilies. It was a great 159 00:08:33,599 --> 00:08:35,440 success. 160 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:37,599 Um we and then we had our Valentine's 161 00:08:37,599 --> 00:08:41,680 Day tea and um it was such a gracious 162 00:08:41,680 --> 00:08:44,320 fun thing. Uh we are really getting into 163 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:45,839 the culture tea and we hope to have one 164 00:08:45,839 --> 00:08:47,839 for the autofest. 165 00:08:47,839 --> 00:08:55,519 Um we celebrated one of our seniors who is 166 00:08:55,519 --> 00:08:58,560 also part of history in Moab. She ran 167 00:08:58,560 --> 00:09:00,320 the 168 00:09:00,320 --> 00:09:03,920 I want to call it the greasy spoon. 169 00:09:03,920 --> 00:09:06,560 >> Okay. She ran that. She turned 100 years 170 00:09:06,560 --> 00:09:10,240 old this year and Mayor Joette and um 171 00:09:10,240 --> 00:09:11,839 Commissioner Winfield was there to help 172 00:09:11,839 --> 00:09:14,480 us celebrate her. 173 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:16,320 Um we have enjoyed a couple of 174 00:09:16,320 --> 00:09:17,680 progressive dinners that you go to 175 00:09:17,680 --> 00:09:19,600 somebody's house and then yeah kind of 176 00:09:19,600 --> 00:09:21,360 go to several people's houses and work 177 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:25,920 around. Um in June we were late but we 178 00:09:25,920 --> 00:09:28,399 celebrated um Cinco de Mayo with a salsa 179 00:09:28,399 --> 00:09:30,880 showdown. 180 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:33,200 Um to make it more fun Chris decided we 181 00:09:33,200 --> 00:09:36,240 could add um tablescaping. Tablescaping 182 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:37,920 is where you kind of fancy up your table 183 00:09:37,920 --> 00:09:40,640 and you for the holiday and who you are 184 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:42,800 for your personality. It was a great 185 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:45,509 time. 186 00:09:45,519 --> 00:09:47,519 Oh, I could tell you who won, but now I 187 00:09:47,519 --> 00:09:49,440 can't think. I can't remember who won 188 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:51,279 this also. 189 00:09:51,279 --> 00:09:54,800 Um, to finish off July, we did a happy 190 00:09:54,800 --> 00:09:58,959 20 250th birthday for America um with an 191 00:09:58,959 --> 00:10:01,360 ice cream social that was very popular. 192 00:10:01,360 --> 00:10:03,600 And then we watched the movie The 193 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:05,120 Patriot, 194 00:10:05,120 --> 00:10:06,800 which I'll be honest, I forgot was rated 195 00:10:06,800 --> 00:10:08,720 R. Anyway, 196 00:10:08,720 --> 00:10:13,430 people didn't all say them. [laughter] 197 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,399 Just don't think if it had cuss words, I 198 00:10:16,399 --> 00:10:19,120 would have thought. [laughter] 199 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:22,240 Um, the Moab Senior Games does an annual 200 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:26,000 um cookout slash cornhole tournament 201 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:29,519 every year. It's next Thursday at um 202 00:10:29,519 --> 00:10:35,360 4:30 at the pavilion. Um, it's always really fun to do that going 203 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,959 up. But I think one of the most 204 00:10:38,959 --> 00:10:42,160 popular or fun activities we had was 205 00:10:42,160 --> 00:10:44,320 this who am I? And we had the seniors 206 00:10:44,320 --> 00:10:46,720 bring in pictures when of their youth, 207 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,440 not baby pictures, but you know, kind of 208 00:10:49,440 --> 00:10:51,760 between three and 12. And then we had 209 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,680 them up for a month and then you chose 210 00:10:53,680 --> 00:10:56,480 or you picked who was who. Somebody got, 211 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,360 you know, it was fun. I was bad at it, 212 00:10:59,360 --> 00:11:01,920 but it was fun. 213 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,279 Um we also volunteered to have the 214 00:11:05,279 --> 00:11:09,120 democracy phone booth on what voices and 215 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:11,440 boy voices and votes and each of the 216 00:11:11,440 --> 00:11:14,160 seniors you could um record how 217 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:17,440 democracy affected you. 218 00:11:17,440 --> 00:11:19,120 Oh, I forgot to mention our senior tree 219 00:11:19,120 --> 00:11:20,959 was a great success this year. We seem 220 00:11:20,959 --> 00:11:22,800 to be getting more seniors with more 221 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:25,680 needs and yet we seem to be getting more 222 00:11:25,680 --> 00:11:30,470 um people that want to help. 223 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,480 And after years of card games, which we 224 00:11:32,480 --> 00:11:34,880 still play, but Mexican trained dominoes 225 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:37,279 came to the center. They're very serious 226 00:11:37,279 --> 00:11:40,959 about it. Okay, so am I. But anyway, um 227 00:11:40,959 --> 00:11:42,720 but we also have a new group that plays 228 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:44,720 fa once a week and we still have the 229 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:46,640 card games. 230 00:11:46,640 --> 00:11:53,279 We were once again privileged to have um a great variety of ma musicians 231 00:11:53,279 --> 00:11:56,240 volunteer their time and talents to this 232 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,640 center. The Mo Music Fest for the last 233 00:11:58,640 --> 00:12:00,720 couple of years has comped somewhere 234 00:12:00,720 --> 00:12:03,360 between 20 and 40 tickets to several of 235 00:12:03,360 --> 00:12:05,600 the concerts they have. We take a bus 236 00:12:05,600 --> 00:12:07,519 up, but it's always it's a wonderful 237 00:12:07,519 --> 00:12:10,240 thing that they do that. And we also are 238 00:12:10,240 --> 00:12:12,720 part of 239 00:12:12,720 --> 00:12:15,279 the modern music fest winter load 240 00:12:15,279 --> 00:12:17,839 movement and when Acropolis, the only 241 00:12:17,839 --> 00:12:20,639 Grammyinning Reed Quintet, 242 00:12:20,639 --> 00:12:23,600 entertained us for lunch. The Alzas came 243 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:26,240 down from Roosevelt, Utah. know they 244 00:12:26,240 --> 00:12:28,320 came from Delta, Utah. And we had a 245 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,320 fiddle group called the Ginger Snaps 246 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,040 from Roosevelt. And then we also have 247 00:12:33,040 --> 00:12:34,959 our great ginger flar that plays two or 248 00:12:34,959 --> 00:12:38,480 three days a week. 249 00:12:38,480 --> 00:12:41,040 Going forward, 250 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:42,800 um [clears throat] we hope to continue 251 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:45,200 working closely with other agency on our 252 00:12:45,200 --> 00:12:48,079 adult aging needs with more senior 253 00:12:48,079 --> 00:12:50,720 housing, transportation, elder abuse, 254 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,560 targeted scams, and of course, food and 255 00:12:52,560 --> 00:12:54,160 fun. 256 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:55,680 I feel like we've reached a good place 257 00:12:55,680 --> 00:12:57,920 at the senior center. The building is 258 00:12:57,920 --> 00:12:59,760 getting utilized more with rentals, 259 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:02,399 meetings, exercises, activities, crafts, 260 00:13:02,399 --> 00:13:04,800 painting classes, and movement classes. 261 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:07,200 We are very supportive of a grief brief 262 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,279 support group that meets twice a month 263 00:13:09,279 --> 00:13:11,760 and also a dementia care support group 264 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:14,000 that meets twice a month as well as a 265 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:19,200 coat guild sorority and um the UFO, Utah 266 00:13:19,200 --> 00:13:22,240 Federation of Pontology. um they started 267 00:13:22,240 --> 00:13:23,920 out with like four or five people. Now 268 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:25,920 they have 40 down the dance floor. So 269 00:13:25,920 --> 00:13:27,440 we're really excited about lead for 270 00:13:27,440 --> 00:13:29,600 that. And going through all the pictures 271 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:31,519 last year, it hit me that we really do 272 00:13:31,519 --> 00:13:33,600 have some fun activities at the senior 273 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,440 center and I am so privileged to be a 274 00:13:35,440 --> 00:13:37,920 part of this and thank you. And if you 275 00:13:37,920 --> 00:13:40,000 have any questions, 276 00:13:40,000 --> 00:13:41,680 >> thank you. 277 00:13:41,680 --> 00:13:43,600 for all the work you do. 278 00:13:43,600 --> 00:13:48,389 >> Thank you. 279 00:13:48,399 --> 00:13:50,800 » I have one question. I have one 280 00:13:50,800 --> 00:13:53,600 question. How is the new bus, the van 281 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:55,360 that we purchased, is that working out 282 00:13:55,360 --> 00:13:56,079 well for you? 283 00:13:56,079 --> 00:13:58,480 >> The van works. She really likes the van. 284 00:13:58,480 --> 00:14:01,920 Um, if it drives good, I think the 285 00:14:01,920 --> 00:14:04,000 seniors enjoy it. She's a little picky 286 00:14:04,000 --> 00:14:05,600 about who gets in the front seat because 287 00:14:05,600 --> 00:14:08,720 it's, you know, you need your 288 00:14:08,720 --> 00:14:11,360 less mobile people in the front, but um, 289 00:14:11,360 --> 00:14:13,519 it it they seem to enjoy it. It works 290 00:14:13,519 --> 00:14:15,519 really good. We've kind of been over 291 00:14:15,519 --> 00:14:17,199 full a couple of days where we had to 292 00:14:17,199 --> 00:14:19,920 make two turns and we're considering 293 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:21,199 there are just some people that can't 294 00:14:21,199 --> 00:14:24,480 get into the bus that can get into the 295 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:26,639 van because the bus has steep steps and 296 00:14:26,639 --> 00:14:29,040 the the van just has a raft. So 297 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:29,519 >> nice. 298 00:14:29,519 --> 00:14:30,959 >> But if we get more people, people will 299 00:14:30,959 --> 00:14:33,600 of course move to the van or the bus. 300 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:35,279 >> This work great. Thank you very much. 301 00:14:35,279 --> 00:14:38,949 >> Glass. 302 00:14:38,959 --> 00:14:42,240 » All right. So, we have postponed our 303 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,000 other report which is Gran County 304 00:14:44,000 --> 00:14:46,399 Building Department. We've also 305 00:14:46,399 --> 00:14:50,079 postponed our public hearing. 306 00:14:50,079 --> 00:14:53,120 We should have postponed this meeting. 307 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:56,720 It was too late. Um, anyways, next is 308 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,600 our general business action items and 309 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:01,120 discussions. 310 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,199 So, commission member disclosures and 311 00:15:03,199 --> 00:15:04,959 future considerations. Mike 312 00:15:04,959 --> 00:15:08,079 >> Works for the sheriff's department. 313 00:15:08,079 --> 00:15:10,880 >> Okay. Anything else? 314 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:12,399 >> Number three is the approval of the 315 00:15:12,399 --> 00:15:14,240 consent agenda items. 316 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:15,199 >> Madam Chair, 317 00:15:15,199 --> 00:15:16,000 >> yes. 318 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:19,440 >> Could I pull item E, please? That is the 319 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:20,959 outdoor recreation initiative grant 320 00:15:20,959 --> 00:15:23,120 application for Mud Springs phase 2.1. 321 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,320 >> Yeah, we'll pull that and we'll just 322 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,160 take it at the end of the Well, we'll 323 00:15:26,160 --> 00:15:29,279 probably since Mattiey's here. 324 00:15:29,279 --> 00:15:32,079 Maddie and Cody, who should go first? 325 00:15:32,079 --> 00:15:33,839 We'll put it we'll probably we'll just 326 00:15:33,839 --> 00:15:35,680 move right after the consent agenda. 327 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:38,560 >> Thank you. Um A is the approval of 328 00:15:38,560 --> 00:15:41,519 meetings minutes for July 7th, 21st, 329 00:15:41,519 --> 00:15:44,880 27th, and August 4th and 18th. B is the 330 00:15:44,880 --> 00:15:46,560 ratification of payment of bills. The 331 00:15:46,560 --> 00:15:51,590 total bills were $1,674,89.81. 332 00:15:51,600 --> 00:15:56,870 Total payroll of $280,5769 333 00:15:56,880 --> 00:15:58,880 with a total bills and payroll of 334 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:05,910 $1,954,666.50. 335 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,000 C is a ratification of cooperative 336 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,000 forest road agreement. It's an annual 337 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,720 agreement. No funds required. D 338 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,639 ratification of signature on state 339 00:16:14,639 --> 00:16:24,389 homeland security program award 340 00:16:24,399 --> 00:16:28,399 and operation of a motorized trail crew. 341 00:16:28,399 --> 00:16:30,079 And that was just a change. We've 342 00:16:30,079 --> 00:16:31,519 already signed that once, didn't we? So 343 00:16:31,519 --> 00:16:33,440 there's a change on that G. Amendment to 344 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:36,480 USU contract each position backfield 345 00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:38,720 requests of the Crown County Sheriff's 346 00:16:38,720 --> 00:16:41,440 Office patrol deputy dispatcher and 347 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:44,639 jailer corrections position and also the 348 00:16:44,639 --> 00:16:46,880 roads department operator and it said 349 00:16:46,880 --> 00:16:48,959 one in the agenda but it's actually a 350 00:16:48,959 --> 00:16:54,550 two type two so that was just a type 351 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:58,320 » motion to approve consent as presented. 352 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,759 >> All right, Mike. So all in favor 353 00:17:01,759 --> 00:17:04,319 and that passes six up so all right 354 00:17:04,319 --> 00:17:08,959 let's go ahead and move to item E 355 00:17:08,959 --> 00:17:10,720 which is the outdoor recreation 356 00:17:10,720 --> 00:17:12,559 initiative grant application for mud 357 00:17:12,559 --> 00:17:19,270 springs. Yeah Maddie come on. Okay 358 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:22,240 so um just a quick overview. So the OI 359 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:25,280 grant the minimum request that you can 360 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:26,799 qualify for this grant is a million 361 00:17:26,799 --> 00:17:29,200 dollars. Um it's a fall application 362 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,960 period and we have gotten a previous OI 363 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:34,640 grant for the Mud Springs project. We're 364 00:17:34,640 --> 00:17:37,520 calling it phase 2A um which we 365 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:40,640 originally had awarded for um a second 366 00:17:40,640 --> 00:17:42,320 phase of trail development out of Mud 367 00:17:42,320 --> 00:17:43,760 Springs, but then because of those 368 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,400 issues uh with safety turning off the 369 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:49,360 highway, those funds were um shifted 370 00:17:49,360 --> 00:17:52,480 over manage that issue. So, we want to 371 00:17:52,480 --> 00:17:55,919 reapply to ORI this year for now we're 372 00:17:55,919 --> 00:17:59,360 calling 2B um which is 11 miles of 373 00:17:59,360 --> 00:18:01,360 additional trails in the system as well 374 00:18:01,360 --> 00:18:04,640 as a trail head adjacent um skill 375 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,200 development area. 376 00:18:07,200 --> 00:18:10,640 And so my request is there's no match 377 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,520 that's required for this grant program. 378 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:17,280 However, um it shows community buyin uh 379 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:18,799 commitment and then also it makes it 380 00:18:18,799 --> 00:18:20,880 much more competitive. So, the grant 381 00:18:20,880 --> 00:18:22,400 administrator 382 00:18:22,400 --> 00:18:25,600 um he recommended if we're able 20% 383 00:18:25,600 --> 00:18:27,600 match and then I think probably the 384 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:29,600 lowest we could go would be like a 10% 385 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:31,039 match. I think anything less than that 386 00:18:31,039 --> 00:18:33,280 is going to make us look like we're not 387 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:34,880 um committed to this project because 388 00:18:34,880 --> 00:18:37,679 we're asking for about 1.1 million. So 389 00:18:37,679 --> 00:18:41,360 10% would be 60,000 and then I would say 390 00:18:41,360 --> 00:18:43,679 anywhere between 60,000 and 180,000 391 00:18:43,679 --> 00:18:46,000 would be make us competitive 392 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:48,480 >> and that's because we have inind right 393 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,400 >> and then yes we also have in kind. So, 394 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:54,320 we're using um a percentage of my salary 395 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:56,880 for like uh the project management and 396 00:18:56,880 --> 00:19:00,799 then also volunteer labor, which um 397 00:19:00,799 --> 00:19:02,880 forget what I did exactly for here, but 398 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:05,520 last season we had $20,000 399 00:19:05,520 --> 00:19:10,559 value for um volunteer for part one of 400 00:19:10,559 --> 00:19:12,640 phase one construction. So, I feel 401 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,520 pretty confident um 402 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,520 with that. 403 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:19,520 >> Um I make a motion. I I'd move to 404 00:19:19,520 --> 00:19:20,640 approve this application for grant 405 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,000 funding from Mud Springs Trail System 406 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,200 Phase 2B and commit a cash match for 407 00:19:25,200 --> 00:19:28,160 this project in the amount of $60,000 to 408 00:19:28,160 --> 00:19:31,360 be taken from TRT mitigation, which 409 00:19:31,360 --> 00:19:37,919 trails is an approved um uh approved uh 410 00:19:37,919 --> 00:19:41,280 funding uh prospect 411 00:19:41,280 --> 00:19:44,000 and I would speak also to that. 412 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:45,120 >> Okay. [clears throat] And that's also 413 00:19:45,120 --> 00:19:46,080 2027 budget. 414 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,160 >> 2027 budget of course. Yes. Looking at 415 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,640 that. So, I think the I think Mud 416 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:52,640 Springs has already been a huge success. 417 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,120 Um, it's it's bringing people in. I've 418 00:19:55,120 --> 00:19:56,320 been down there a couple times and 419 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:57,760 seeing lots of people from other 420 00:19:57,760 --> 00:20:00,559 counties uh coming down mostly to to 421 00:20:00,559 --> 00:20:02,480 pre-ride the Nike course in light of the 422 00:20:02,480 --> 00:20:04,160 two Nika races that are coming up, but 423 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:05,600 it's also getting a lot of traction 424 00:20:05,600 --> 00:20:07,360 online and likely mountain bike forums 425 00:20:07,360 --> 00:20:09,120 and stuff. People really like it. Also, 426 00:20:09,120 --> 00:20:12,080 I know locals really enjoy uh springs 427 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:13,360 because it's it's different than a lot 428 00:20:13,360 --> 00:20:17,280 of the riding around here. Um, and uh, 429 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:20,720 the reason I'm I'm doing 60,000 I I I 430 00:20:20,720 --> 00:20:22,080 think this is I mean it's a million- 431 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:23,280 dollar grant, so it's going to bring a 432 00:20:23,280 --> 00:20:24,480 lot of money into the county. It's going 433 00:20:24,480 --> 00:20:27,600 to uh improve 434 00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:30,320 um the trail system. 11 more miles of 435 00:20:30,320 --> 00:20:32,960 kind of unique and uh featured downhill 436 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,919 trails are going to be uh different. 437 00:20:35,919 --> 00:20:37,440 It's they're going to fit into the kind 438 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:40,320 of the Moab quiver of of trails very 439 00:20:40,320 --> 00:20:43,440 nicely and present uh kind of a a 440 00:20:43,440 --> 00:20:45,679 different option for riders coming to 441 00:20:45,679 --> 00:20:50,559 town. Um I I would love to go more than 442 00:20:50,559 --> 00:20:52,320 that, but I think that's probably the 443 00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:53,600 most that I'd feel comfortable 444 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:57,039 committing out of our out of next year's 445 00:20:57,039 --> 00:21:00,320 budget for this. And I appreciate the 446 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:04,320 inind. So that's that's why I'm uh 447 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,120 making the motion to to 448 00:21:07,120 --> 00:21:09,360 >> Did you second that bill? You put your 449 00:21:09,360 --> 00:21:11,200 hand up. You seconding it or 450 00:21:11,200 --> 00:21:13,200 >> um I'm glad to second it. I want to I 451 00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:14,480 want a discussion. 452 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:15,520 >> Okay. [clears throat] So you're second 453 00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:16,880 and yeah, we need a second. 454 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:21,510 >> That's totally my bad. 455 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:23,280 » So Bill second and then I'll let him 456 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:25,840 speak and then we'll go to Trish then to 457 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:27,520 >> um couple of questions. Are we 458 00:21:27,520 --> 00:21:29,360 comfortable that this can come out of 459 00:21:29,360 --> 00:21:32,240 mitigation? And if so, why has it not 460 00:21:32,240 --> 00:21:35,990 gone before MTAB? 461 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,280 » I don't know why it hasn't gone before 462 00:21:37,280 --> 00:21:37,919 MTA. 463 00:21:37,919 --> 00:21:40,000 >> Should we then, my question would be, do 464 00:21:40,000 --> 00:21:42,400 a substitute motion and postpone this? 465 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:44,400 >> I believe the grant has to be approved 466 00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:48,240 by September 15th. So, it's it's timely. 467 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:49,919 We don't have another commission meeting 468 00:21:49,919 --> 00:21:53,200 before then. Um, 469 00:21:53,200 --> 00:21:55,679 >> call a special meeting of the MTAP 470 00:21:55,679 --> 00:22:00,149 board. I mean, 471 00:22:00,159 --> 00:22:02,080 I I suppose we could I I 472 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,480 >> the MAP does meet on the ETH. That's the 473 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:06,799 next INCAB board meeting is the ETH. 474 00:22:06,799 --> 00:22:09,280 >> And then we'd have to Can we 475 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:11,280 >> ratify it, 476 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:15,840 >> right? Ratify it like like pass it um 477 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:19,840 with the stipulation that it is 478 00:22:19,840 --> 00:22:22,159 uh that it goes before the MTA board. I 479 00:22:22,159 --> 00:22:22,640 guess 480 00:22:22,640 --> 00:22:26,880 >> I'd be more comfortable with it. 481 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,559 you're going to just amend your motion. 482 00:22:28,559 --> 00:22:30,960 >> And do we feel comfortable that this 483 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:33,120 isn't an authorized use out of MI 484 00:22:33,120 --> 00:22:35,039 mitigation funds? 485 00:22:35,039 --> 00:22:36,559 >> I'm comfortable with it. I think I think 486 00:22:36,559 --> 00:22:39,840 mitigation clearly states that this is one of the uses for for 487 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,990 mitigation. 488 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,080 » Yeah. 489 00:22:46,080 --> 00:22:50,799 Um 490 00:22:50,799 --> 00:22:52,960 can you tell me a little bit about what 491 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,360 is San Juan's involvement in this 492 00:22:55,360 --> 00:22:57,919 system? So just so I have background and 493 00:22:57,919 --> 00:22:59,760 then if they're if they are going to be 494 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:01,919 involved with this specific grant. 495 00:23:01,919 --> 00:23:03,760 >> Yeah. So they've been involved in the 496 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:06,799 past. They gave $40,000 to jump start 497 00:23:06,799 --> 00:23:08,640 the project. So that paid for my time 498 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:11,039 and Tyson sees time to do the initial 499 00:23:11,039 --> 00:23:12,960 like trail design and project 500 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:17,360 development. Um, for this phase, I don't 501 00:23:17,360 --> 00:23:20,080 think we are asking them for a match. We 502 00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:22,320 do have a few other kind of balls in the 503 00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:25,039 air. Um, there's some interested 504 00:23:25,039 --> 00:23:26,640 parties, but I haven't don't have 505 00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,919 anything locked in yet. Um, so right 506 00:23:29,919 --> 00:23:31,520 now, um, you know, they've been very 507 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,880 involved in the phase 2A. Uh, but for 508 00:23:34,880 --> 00:23:37,760 the phase 2B, I think, um, Grand County 509 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,720 is kind of the point manager for the the 510 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,039 trail design and construction. But do 511 00:23:43,039 --> 00:23:44,720 they know that you're you're applying 512 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,520 for this to I believe Lisa has 513 00:23:47,520 --> 00:23:53,590 >> okay contact about a letter of support. 514 00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:54,640 » Did you want to clarify? 515 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,320 >> Yeah, I'll just clarify here from the 516 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:01,360 HP456 was so there's 3A um expenditures 517 00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:03,840 which is tourism, recreation, film 518 00:24:03,840 --> 00:24:05,280 production and convention that's 519 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:07,679 establishing and promoting that. Um and 520 00:24:07,679 --> 00:24:11,039 then there are the um 3B expenditures 521 00:24:11,039 --> 00:24:12,960 and those are conventions, exhibit 522 00:24:12,960 --> 00:24:14,960 halls, visitor information centers, 523 00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,000 museums, sports, recreation facilities 524 00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,400 including practice fields, stadiums, 525 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,640 arenas, and trails. So I think that this 526 00:24:22,640 --> 00:24:23,840 is where we were talking that it would 527 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:26,880 fit in under um under a 3B, 528 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:27,279 >> right? 529 00:24:27,279 --> 00:24:29,360 >> Um right there. and and and I don't know 530 00:24:29,360 --> 00:24:31,440 if we should actually start calling them 531 00:24:31,440 --> 00:24:35,200 3B and 3A rather than mitigation because 532 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,039 mitigation actually under the new 533 00:24:37,039 --> 00:24:39,120 legislation has a different meaning 534 00:24:39,120 --> 00:24:41,919 which is your emergency services and so 535 00:24:41,919 --> 00:24:43,919 I don't know just to maybe clarify that 536 00:24:43,919 --> 00:24:46,080 into the future to to say that you know 537 00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:48,480 a 3B expenditure it's just 538 00:24:48,480 --> 00:24:50,240 >> it's it's for these allowable 539 00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,720 expenditures as opposed to the 540 00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,360 mitigation which is listed in there as 541 00:24:55,360 --> 00:24:58,559 basically your emergency services 542 00:24:58,559 --> 00:24:59,600 Mike, 543 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:00,960 >> I know it's at the end of the valley and 544 00:25:00,960 --> 00:25:02,880 it is in San Juan County. It's going to 545 00:25:02,880 --> 00:25:05,120 affect Moab. We all know that it's it's 546 00:25:05,120 --> 00:25:08,000 within our valley. [clears throat] 547 00:25:08,000 --> 00:25:10,559 Where do we need to 548 00:25:10,559 --> 00:25:12,960 uh path together where our recreation 549 00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,240 special service district can actually 550 00:25:14,240 --> 00:25:16,480 help in funding even if it's over the 551 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,200 San Juan County line? Like what do we 552 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:21,919 have to do? And it's kind of pointed at 553 00:25:21,919 --> 00:25:23,520 Stephen on this one. We're gonna have to 554 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:26,240 figure that out because 555 00:25:26,240 --> 00:25:27,840 yes, there's an imaginary line out 556 00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,080 there, but that's in Moab. I mean, 557 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:30,720 >> we do have 558 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:32,240 >> that's that's a hard push. 559 00:25:32,240 --> 00:25:35,279 >> Um for for the department, for the GCAT 560 00:25:35,279 --> 00:25:36,720 department, we do have an interlocal 561 00:25:36,720 --> 00:25:39,039 agreement in place with San County that 562 00:25:39,039 --> 00:25:41,760 specifically calls out um like that 563 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:43,760 section that northern section of San 564 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:45,919 County with Mud Springs and South 565 00:25:45,919 --> 00:25:46,640 Mountains. 566 00:25:46,640 --> 00:25:48,320 >> Yeah. And I I'm just looking for more 567 00:25:48,320 --> 00:25:50,320 help out there. Yeah. Uh the recreation 568 00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:51,760 special service district actually is in 569 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:53,440 the small funding surplus which is a 570 00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:55,760 great thing but this is could have been 571 00:25:55,760 --> 00:26:01,360 one of the asks we could have asked from that that special service district 572 00:26:01,360 --> 00:26:05,600 also but for being in San like 573 00:26:05,600 --> 00:26:09,600 >> 2,000 ft over the the border 574 00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,600 >> seeing if we could 575 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:15,039 >> I'd have to pull their 576 00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:16,960 >> future problem to figure out but it's 577 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,640 also another source I I want to figure 578 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,720 that so we could actually uh get help 579 00:26:20,720 --> 00:26:22,480 there because it's in Moab. We know 580 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,470 that. 581 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,000 » Yeah. And I did reach out to 582 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,400 Commissioner M in San County. They have 583 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:31,600 a meeting today and I think it was too 584 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,480 late for them this week, but if they are 585 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:37,760 able to, we could add that to the grant. 586 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:39,528 So, 587 00:26:39,528 --> 00:26:40,240 [laughter] 588 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,400 >> I think we would add that additional on 589 00:26:42,400 --> 00:26:44,320 top of what we have. But 590 00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,120 >> um I'll add just a few comments. I'm 591 00:26:47,120 --> 00:26:48,960 expand on what Mattie said and then 592 00:26:48,960 --> 00:26:53,120 answer Trish a little bit, but the 593 00:26:53,120 --> 00:26:56,159 reason for the access into Mud Springs 594 00:26:56,159 --> 00:26:59,279 is not just the safety to fix that. It 595 00:26:59,279 --> 00:27:02,559 was about $3.5 million for UD do to put 596 00:27:02,559 --> 00:27:04,320 that turn in there if they were to do it 597 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,039 at that point. And so we moved down and 598 00:27:07,039 --> 00:27:08,640 agreed that it would be better coming 599 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:11,760 off of the Pack Creek cut off. And when 600 00:27:11,760 --> 00:27:14,000 they did that, they then paid for the 601 00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,799 majority of the road coming into Mud 602 00:27:16,799 --> 00:27:19,679 Springs. And then San Juan County and 603 00:27:19,679 --> 00:27:23,520 Gran County have mostly Cody, but some 604 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,039 Todd I hope I'm getting his right ad 605 00:27:27,039 --> 00:27:30,480 also have put in a ton of inind effort 606 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:32,880 for the count for both counties on not 607 00:27:32,880 --> 00:27:34,880 just the parking lots, but the road up 608 00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,120 around and I don't think Todd's even 609 00:27:37,120 --> 00:27:38,720 done yet. the road that goes up where 610 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:40,240 they start the race and they go up 611 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:42,320 around the corner and come back down. 612 00:27:42,320 --> 00:27:43,360 So, 613 00:27:43,360 --> 00:27:44,000 >> great. 614 00:27:44,000 --> 00:27:46,159 >> Yeah, I believe the last time I was out 615 00:27:46,159 --> 00:27:48,159 there that they had just started working 616 00:27:48,159 --> 00:27:50,799 on it. So, there's a lot that both 617 00:27:50,799 --> 00:27:53,120 counties are doing out there that's 618 00:27:53,120 --> 00:27:56,159 inind and I know that Cody's crews have 619 00:27:56,159 --> 00:27:58,080 spent a lot of time out there and last 620 00:27:58,080 --> 00:27:59,760 time I was out there, the parking lots 621 00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:01,520 are looking awesome. 622 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,720 >> So, that that's a big portion the 623 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,480 parking lots are of where that money 624 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:07,600 went. 625 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,520 was to be able to host all the people 626 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,840 when we got them in here. So, 627 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:12,799 >> sure. 628 00:28:12,799 --> 00:28:16,000 >> Yeah, absolutely. And I think that's definitely great work. I've been 629 00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:18,000 out there frequently and and it's it's 630 00:28:18,000 --> 00:28:20,080 been an actually just a awesome 631 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,320 collaboration between all the entities 632 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:26,399 BLM, U DOT, San Juan, Grant, everybody. 633 00:28:26,399 --> 00:28:27,840 >> Agreed. 634 00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:29,840 >> Right. Yeah. Just to clarify outside of 635 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:32,720 it's not really point of order. Um so 636 00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,240 when we are talking about promotion if 637 00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:36,640 we speak about it as a 3A expense and we 638 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,720 speak about the other the rest of the 639 00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,559 funding and a 3B expense. Is that what 640 00:28:40,559 --> 00:28:41,919 you're recommending Brian? 641 00:28:41,919 --> 00:28:43,360 >> Yeah clarify. 642 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:45,279 >> Yeah just clarifying. I just we we use 643 00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:48,320 the term mitigation and then we also um 644 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:50,720 use it as these allowable expenses and 645 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,760 there is there is some different uh um 646 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:55,039 there's a couple of different things 647 00:28:55,039 --> 00:28:56,799 inside that legislation that deals with 648 00:28:56,799 --> 00:28:58,720 the mitigation especially as we're 649 00:28:58,720 --> 00:29:00,240 looking for that outdoor recreation 650 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:02,399 mitigation grant and how those funds can 651 00:29:02,399 --> 00:29:04,159 be used. So there's just there's just 652 00:29:04,159 --> 00:29:05,840 different language and I just thought it 653 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:07,600 would be an opportunity to say that you 654 00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,919 know the 3A basically deals with all 655 00:29:09,919 --> 00:29:12,880 things promotion and then 3B is your 656 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,360 allowable expenses and then mitigation 657 00:29:15,360 --> 00:29:17,679 is actually essential services 658 00:29:17,679 --> 00:29:19,360 >> but it's included in that same pot of 659 00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:20,880 money that 3B is. 660 00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:53,430 >> Yeah. So yeah. Oh crap. 661 00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:54,799 or not. The proper procedure, I think, 662 00:29:54,799 --> 00:29:56,320 is to bring it in front of the MTA 663 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:59,279 board. I would uh vote for it either 664 00:29:59,279 --> 00:30:01,039 way. I would hope that they would 665 00:30:01,039 --> 00:30:05,120 approve of this. Um, so as far as making 666 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:08,480 a motion goes, because this grant is 667 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:10,320 super timely and uh, Matt, you have to 668 00:30:10,320 --> 00:30:11,919 get it in for the next commission 669 00:30:11,919 --> 00:30:15,120 meeting. I guess I would amend my amend 670 00:30:15,120 --> 00:30:18,080 my motion to 671 00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:21,520 um take the uh move to approve the 672 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:23,200 application [clears throat] for grant 673 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,799 funding for Mud Springs Trail System 674 00:30:24,799 --> 00:30:27,039 phase 2B and to commit a cash match for 675 00:30:27,039 --> 00:30:29,600 this project in the amount of $60,000 to 676 00:30:29,600 --> 00:30:35,200 come from uh section 3B of HB 456 TRT 677 00:30:35,200 --> 00:30:39,360 legislation. Um and 678 00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:45,120 uh to authorize the chair to sign the 679 00:30:45,120 --> 00:30:46,880 application 680 00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:51,120 after it has been reviewed by the MTAB 681 00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,760 board at their U September meeting. Does 682 00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:55,360 that work? 683 00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:55,679 >> Yeah. 684 00:30:55,679 --> 00:30:59,200 >> Works me on that again. Okay. Okay. Any 685 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,480 more discussion? All in favor? 686 00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:04,720 All right. That passes six. Thank you. 687 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:06,480 Thanks a lot. 688 00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:09,840 And we'll move on to number four. So 689 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,120 Spanish Valley Drive Mill and Phil Bean 690 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:14,960 to the county line which is the shoulder 691 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:26,710 w project. 692 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:29,120 » All right. Well, first off, thank you 693 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,679 for your guys' service and having me 694 00:31:31,679 --> 00:31:34,799 sneak in here tonight on a short night 695 00:31:34,799 --> 00:31:36,480 hopefully. 696 00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:39,279 Um, so I know there wasn't a lot of 697 00:31:39,279 --> 00:31:42,880 information in the packet. I am still in 698 00:31:42,880 --> 00:31:45,416 the process of 699 00:31:45,416 --> 00:31:46,559 [clears throat] 700 00:31:46,559 --> 00:31:48,320 bids for this project. Um, 701 00:31:48,320 --> 00:31:50,000 transportation special service district 702 00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:52,240 approached me about a week and a half 703 00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:54,640 ago with some funding in their budget 704 00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:58,159 that they want to put down on this 705 00:31:58,159 --> 00:32:00,640 connectivity, for lack of a better word, 706 00:32:00,640 --> 00:32:02,480 shoulder widening project tying in 707 00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:03,919 basically the same project that we did 708 00:32:03,919 --> 00:32:05,919 from the four-way stop 2 just past the 709 00:32:05,919 --> 00:32:08,559 Beaman Bridge. This will connect onto 710 00:32:08,559 --> 00:32:10,960 there and then go out to the Grand Sanan 711 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:14,080 County line with the same 4ft shoulders 712 00:32:14,080 --> 00:32:16,559 32 foot wide 713 00:32:16,559 --> 00:32:19,440 lane. So, um I think it's a great way to 714 00:32:19,440 --> 00:32:22,240 do it. um 715 00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,080 transportation special service in our 716 00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:26,159 they call a special meeting and they 717 00:32:26,159 --> 00:32:28,159 have the funding to pretty much fund 718 00:32:28,159 --> 00:32:30,960 this. So my ask of this 300,000 719 00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:32,799 contingent on transportation special 720 00:32:32,799 --> 00:32:34,880 service isn't it doesn't really apply 721 00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:37,679 anymore. What I would like to do is just 722 00:32:37,679 --> 00:32:39,360 as far as the background the road and 723 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,279 transportation special service district 724 00:32:41,279 --> 00:32:43,679 have been taking the initiatives to 725 00:32:43,679 --> 00:32:45,039 widen the shoulders on the main corridor 726 00:32:45,039 --> 00:32:47,840 of Spanish Valley Drive in Spanish. Um 727 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,919 this initiative is to create a safe path 728 00:32:49,919 --> 00:32:51,600 between traffic and multi-use 729 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:53,919 pedestrian, bicycle, horseback and other 730 00:32:53,919 --> 00:32:56,480 uses in grad and San Juan County. Um 731 00:32:56,480 --> 00:32:58,720 these improvements began in two in 2025 732 00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,240 with the four-way stop to be 733 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,159 improvement. The project continues to 734 00:33:02,159 --> 00:33:04,320 promote connectivity and it that is the 735 00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:06,320 vision of the transportation or master 736 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,559 plan. The scope of this project will 737 00:33:08,559 --> 00:33:10,000 also incorporate a better channel for 738 00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:11,919 storm drainage along the Spanish trail 739 00:33:11,919 --> 00:33:14,240 road protecting not only the roadway but 740 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,720 the via power utility um where water has 741 00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,080 been undermining the utility pole and 742 00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:20,640 powerway. So, not only are we going to 743 00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:23,519 run out to the um county line, but we're 744 00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:25,279 also going to do the north side of 745 00:33:25,279 --> 00:33:27,279 Spanish Trail with a 4 foot wide 746 00:33:27,279 --> 00:33:29,120 shoulder, which will tie that whole road 747 00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:31,360 in. And then we are going to try to push 748 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:34,960 potentially maybe to the golf course for 749 00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,640 um golf carts, not a golf ball lane, but 750 00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,799 it will be a lighter shoulder if the 751 00:33:40,799 --> 00:33:43,679 funding is allotted for this. Um, what 752 00:33:43,679 --> 00:33:47,360 the road departments ask out of my 35, 753 00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,480 which I called it out in a 2026 or 2020, 754 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:53,600 yeah, 2027, is it's a little bit vague, 755 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,600 but it does say overlay work working 756 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:57,200 with transportation special service 757 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:59,679 district for half a million dollars. It 758 00:33:59,679 --> 00:34:01,200 wasn't in our wheelhouse to do that with 759 00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:03,200 the road department this year. Um, 760 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,720 transportation special services came 761 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:07,120 through with the funding. And so what my 762 00:34:07,120 --> 00:34:12,159 ask is is $100,000 from the same 35 763 00:34:12,159 --> 00:34:15,200 capital improvement um fund for 764 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:18,399 basically just the striking and final 765 00:34:18,399 --> 00:34:20,800 work. Anything that the paving crew and 766 00:34:20,800 --> 00:34:22,320 transportation special service district 767 00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:24,159 can't cover gives us a little bit of a 768 00:34:24,159 --> 00:34:26,320 contingency just to make sure that that 769 00:34:26,320 --> 00:34:29,119 entirety of the plan will be taken this 770 00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:31,200 year. 771 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:32,560 >> Bill, did you 772 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:34,560 >> Sure. So, I'll make the motion, but I 773 00:34:34,560 --> 00:34:37,200 want to just clarify. So 300,000 from 774 00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:39,200 the special service district and a h 775 00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:41,440 100,000 from fund 35. 776 00:34:41,440 --> 00:34:42,960 >> So the special service district came up 777 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:45,280 with 750,000. 778 00:34:45,280 --> 00:34:50,079 >> Okay. So how how much of it then? 779 00:34:50,079 --> 00:34:51,760 >> They're going to fund the whole project. 780 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:53,599 >> Oh, they are. So we don't need any out 781 00:34:53,599 --> 00:34:54,639 here. 782 00:34:54,639 --> 00:34:55,760 >> The only thing I'm asking 783 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:56,639 >> just make the motion. 784 00:34:56,639 --> 00:34:59,599 >> Yeah. The I am asking for 100,000 to be 785 00:34:59,599 --> 00:35:01,280 set aside as contingent because I do 786 00:35:01,280 --> 00:35:03,119 need to stripe it. Sure. I told them if 787 00:35:03,119 --> 00:35:04,960 they do the whole overlay and shoulder 788 00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,960 widening that I would stripe it and I'll 789 00:35:06,960 --> 00:35:08,480 go back in and do the finish work for 790 00:35:08,480 --> 00:35:09,520 driveways. 791 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,560 >> Does our motion need to cover that? 792 00:35:12,560 --> 00:35:14,400 >> It's 793 00:35:14,400 --> 00:35:17,920 Well, I call that a half a million in my 794 00:35:17,920 --> 00:35:22,079 budget, but Gabe, do you have any I mean 795 00:35:22,079 --> 00:35:23,680 I I it's in the budget. 796 00:35:23,680 --> 00:35:25,119 >> I don't mind make I'll add it to the 797 00:35:25,119 --> 00:35:25,839 motion. 798 00:35:25,839 --> 00:35:27,760 >> Yeah, it doesn't hurt. I move to approve 799 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:29,520 the addition of the Spanish Valley Drive 800 00:35:29,520 --> 00:35:31,440 mill and fill shoulder widening project 801 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,880 from Bean Lane to Grand San Juan County 802 00:35:34,880 --> 00:35:37,680 line to the roads long range capital 803 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:41,520 plan for 2026 as funds are available to 804 00:35:41,520 --> 00:35:44,160 complete the project ahead of schedule 805 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:50,240 with 100,000 set aside for striping and 806 00:35:50,240 --> 00:35:53,680 correct out of um yeah's budget. Did you 807 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:54,560 drive work? 808 00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:55,359 >> Mike second. 809 00:35:55,359 --> 00:35:57,040 >> Second and a comment. 810 00:35:57,040 --> 00:35:57,680 >> Thanks. 811 00:35:57,680 --> 00:35:59,200 >> Uh transportation special service 812 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:04,160 district uh held a special meeting. Uh 813 00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:07,440 it was uh called for held and unanimous 814 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:11,359 decision to transfer the money. Uh so we 815 00:36:11,359 --> 00:36:13,200 have the backing of the entire special 816 00:36:13,200 --> 00:36:16,160 service district. 817 00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:19,040 >> I have Oh, go ahead. I have a question. 818 00:36:19,040 --> 00:36:20,640 >> Yeah. No, this is great work. Thank you, 819 00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:21,920 Cody, for getting that done. 820 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:23,520 >> Yeah. next to the transportation special 821 00:36:23,520 --> 00:36:24,800 service district too. It's their board 822 00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:26,720 and they I appreciate them spending the 823 00:36:26,720 --> 00:36:28,079 money on our payment. 824 00:36:28,079 --> 00:36:29,599 >> Please pass that that thanks along for 825 00:36:29,599 --> 00:36:31,359 me then. Um as well and then just to 826 00:36:31,359 --> 00:36:33,920 clarify so 135 is based off of roads, 827 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:34,960 right? Those are roads funds. 828 00:36:34,960 --> 00:36:37,359 >> Correct. That's my road capital 829 00:36:37,359 --> 00:36:38,079 approved. 830 00:36:38,079 --> 00:36:41,200 >> Thank you so much. Appreciate that 831 00:36:41,200 --> 00:36:43,280 >> Yeah. Thanks for this too. I'm I'm 832 00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:45,680 stoked about it as well. Um the the 833 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:48,640 shoulder widening part from the fourway 834 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:54,240 down to Bean so far has been awesome for cyclists, pedestrians along that 835 00:36:54,240 --> 00:36:56,800 road. Um I ride that section frequently 836 00:36:56,800 --> 00:36:58,160 and it's made a huge difference and I 837 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:00,160 expect it to make a great difference 838 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:01,359 down to the county line, too. 839 00:37:01,359 --> 00:37:02,960 >> Yeah, it's it's a great multi-use. I 840 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:04,400 appreciate. And then one question, how 841 00:37:04,400 --> 00:37:06,400 would this with the future and and we 842 00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,720 haven't talked about going south of Bean 843 00:37:08,720 --> 00:37:10,320 for the uh Spanish Valley multi-use 844 00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,320 pathway, but but how would this 845 00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:16,320 potentially affect that future pathway? 846 00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:17,839 >> So, I don't think it's going to do 847 00:37:17,839 --> 00:37:19,839 anything but be advantageous for that 848 00:37:19,839 --> 00:37:22,640 future buildout. Um we had a safe 849 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,440 streets for all open house at grand last 850 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:27,280 night and if you look at the way that 851 00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,760 pathway falls in um whether it's 852 00:37:29,760 --> 00:37:31,520 separated or whether it fits right 853 00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:33,440 against that I think it's I mean all 854 00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,839 that's going to do is just provide a 855 00:37:35,839 --> 00:37:38,240 >> a wider shoulder with the multi-use and 856 00:37:38,240 --> 00:37:39,920 then the ability to potentially kick 857 00:37:39,920 --> 00:37:42,480 that extra six or seven feet of path on 858 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:43,839 there where it could be connected to 859 00:37:43,839 --> 00:37:46,880 that you know as an easier monetary way 860 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:47,839 to bite it off 861 00:37:47,839 --> 00:37:48,240 >> right 862 00:37:48,240 --> 00:37:49,920 >> or you know with future planning and 863 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,320 build out it still be that separated 864 00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,320 path that everyone's kind of the Yeah. 865 00:37:54,320 --> 00:37:55,599 the big dream. 866 00:37:55,599 --> 00:37:56,820 >> Absolutely. Perfect. Cody, 867 00:37:56,820 --> 00:37:57,920 [clears throat] thank you. 868 00:37:57,920 --> 00:37:59,599 >> Yeah. Mike, 869 00:37:59,599 --> 00:38:02,480 >> uh reiterate what Chalk said. I mean, 870 00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,560 great job. Four-way stop out to Bean. 871 00:38:04,560 --> 00:38:05,920 I'll go out of my way to travel down 872 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:07,359 that road and I know a lot of other 873 00:38:07,359 --> 00:38:08,320 people do. 874 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:10,400 >> Uh it's nice and it's going to be 875 00:38:10,400 --> 00:38:12,560 impeccable from that point out to the 876 00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,440 county line. Uh, I mean, as always, I 877 00:38:15,440 --> 00:38:17,599 want to reach out to my San Juan County 878 00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:19,839 uh counterparts and we will talk about 879 00:38:19,839 --> 00:38:22,400 further out towards Mud Springs, but it 880 00:38:22,400 --> 00:38:24,400 it's it's a joy to drive on as a car 881 00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:25,280 guy. Thank you. 882 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,040 >> Yeah. Well, I appreciate the support 883 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:28,480 from the connectivity because that's 884 00:38:28,480 --> 00:38:30,400 really what our transportation master 885 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:33,839 plan calls out for future build. So, 886 00:38:33,839 --> 00:38:35,040 >> with some wider shoulders and we can 887 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,320 build from there. 888 00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,200 >> Go ahead. I had a question and and a 889 00:38:39,200 --> 00:38:41,599 comment along some of Mike's lines, but 890 00:38:41,599 --> 00:38:44,560 um so does this now connect us all the 891 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,760 way down to a Royo after this project is 892 00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:50,320 completed or where does where are we at 893 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:51,440 in [clears throat] that little section 894 00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,680 where we don't have our path yet, right? 895 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,839 >> Yeah. So, so just a little bit of 896 00:38:55,839 --> 00:38:57,680 clarification what I did when I first 897 00:38:57,680 --> 00:38:59,200 bit this off because I knew it was going 898 00:38:59,200 --> 00:39:01,599 to be a big ask. I mean, you'd be coming 899 00:39:01,599 --> 00:39:05,599 in here with a $2 million ask. um 900 00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:07,119 working with the transportation special 901 00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:08,640 service district and being able to share 902 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,240 funding that the roads kind of had for 903 00:39:10,240 --> 00:39:12,560 some of this and transportation, we were 904 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:15,359 able to bite off a two-mile chunk of it. 905 00:39:15,359 --> 00:39:17,040 Um what it did is we kind of did that 906 00:39:17,040 --> 00:39:19,280 right in the heart of the valley too to 907 00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:20,960 where we could go in any direction and 908 00:39:20,960 --> 00:39:23,359 be able to tie onto that build that we 909 00:39:23,359 --> 00:39:24,880 did. 910 00:39:24,880 --> 00:39:26,800 What this allows us to do now is add on 911 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:28,640 to the beam and go to the county line 912 00:39:28,640 --> 00:39:30,880 which is a mile. We can bite it off. 913 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:32,480 Transportation Special Service District 914 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:33,680 had enough funds that they're going to 915 00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:35,599 be able to cover this. We'll come in and 916 00:39:35,599 --> 00:39:36,960 stripe it and clean it up. That'll 917 00:39:36,960 --> 00:39:38,480 connect clear from the county line to 918 00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:40,640 the four-way stop 919 00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:42,560 in this. We're also going to go from the 920 00:39:42,560 --> 00:39:44,000 Branding Iron Restaurant on the north 921 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,920 side to for sure the roundabout on the 922 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:48,000 north side, which widens that Spanish 923 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:50,079 Trail corridor with those, you know, 924 00:39:50,079 --> 00:39:51,440 it's not going to be a full overlay, but 925 00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:52,800 it will be a wider shoulder on each 926 00:39:52,800 --> 00:39:54,800 side, which adds that night visibility, 927 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:56,240 safety, the people walking, the 928 00:39:56,240 --> 00:39:58,160 multi-use bicycles, whatever it is on 929 00:39:58,160 --> 00:40:01,359 the shoulder. Um, next year with this 930 00:40:01,359 --> 00:40:03,200 TAP grant, it's it's a different 931 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:05,440 section, but there's another 083 miles 932 00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:07,040 that goes on down to resource from the 933 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:08,240 four-way stop. 934 00:40:08,240 --> 00:40:10,400 >> We were approved with a tap a $300,000 935 00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:12,240 TAP grant, and then the road department 936 00:40:12,240 --> 00:40:14,960 has funds aotted in the 2027 budget if 937 00:40:14,960 --> 00:40:17,520 it's approved for $450,000, which makes 938 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,680 that $750,000 939 00:40:19,680 --> 00:40:23,040 shoulder widening and overlay 940 00:40:23,040 --> 00:40:24,560 a 941 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:26,960 pretty big reality that's going to 942 00:40:26,960 --> 00:40:28,880 happen next year. So, by the end of 943 00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,760 2027, if the multi-use path kicks in, 944 00:40:31,760 --> 00:40:33,440 there there's real potential in the next 945 00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,599 two years to have a connectivity for Mil 946 00:40:35,599 --> 00:40:37,680 Creek to the county line with a white 947 00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,160 shoulder potential bike path. 948 00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:41,920 >> I mean, it's it's uh it's coming 949 00:40:41,920 --> 00:40:42,720 together. 950 00:40:42,720 --> 00:40:43,920 >> It's coming together. 951 00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:45,920 >> Good. And then back to Mike's comments 952 00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:48,160 about commissioners in San Juan County, 953 00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:49,599 but really maybe some of the 954 00:40:49,599 --> 00:40:51,760 conversation could start with Todd at 955 00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:54,640 the road department and see what he has 956 00:40:54,640 --> 00:40:57,040 available to extend that on out. I know 957 00:40:57,040 --> 00:40:59,920 that maybe to the clinic or somewhere 958 00:40:59,920 --> 00:41:01,440 out there. There's a lot of homes that 959 00:41:01,440 --> 00:41:04,400 come off of what is it? Mount Peele and 960 00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,560 the next one out Coronado and stuff out 961 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:08,319 there. It would be nice to get Kenton 962 00:41:08,319 --> 00:41:11,280 activity all the way to that clinic 963 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:12,079 basically. 964 00:41:12,079 --> 00:41:13,760 >> Yeah. And I know they they've been doing 965 00:41:13,760 --> 00:41:16,240 some road improvement out there. 966 00:41:16,240 --> 00:41:19,040 >> It's it's nice to see the improvements 967 00:41:19,040 --> 00:41:20,480 happening on our pavement in the valley 968 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:21,920 for sure. But 969 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:25,280 >> I'm I'm pretty candid with TJ. Good. I 970 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:27,359 will uh I'll I'll try to push him in the 971 00:41:27,359 --> 00:41:28,800 right direction. I know Commissioner 972 00:41:28,800 --> 00:41:30,079 Mccertie will too. 973 00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:32,240 >> Yeah. 974 00:41:32,240 --> 00:41:34,160 >> All right. Thank you. Thanks for all 975 00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:34,880 your hard work. 976 00:41:34,880 --> 00:41:35,440 >> No, thank you. 977 00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,079 >> And we just call for a vote here. Um all 978 00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:40,240 in favor 979 00:41:40,240 --> 00:41:42,720 6. Thank you. 980 00:41:42,720 --> 00:41:44,079 Have a good night. 981 00:41:44,079 --> 00:41:45,200 >> Yeah, you guys, too. 982 00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:46,960 >> All right, moving on to number five, 983 00:41:46,960 --> 00:41:48,720 which is the Monument Replacement and 984 00:41:48,720 --> 00:41:51,839 Restoration Committee Grant Award. And 985 00:41:51,839 --> 00:41:54,079 this was a grant that came in. I signed 986 00:41:54,079 --> 00:42:00,319 it in June July and it was been awarded 987 00:42:00,319 --> 00:42:02,560 it and we just need to receive this 988 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,550 grant for $24,836.80. 989 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:08,319 Mike, 990 00:42:08,319 --> 00:42:10,880 >> uh, as soon as it pulls up here, I move 991 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,200 to accept the the contract for monument 992 00:42:13,200 --> 00:42:17,440 replacement and restoration grant. So, 993 00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,440 >> any more discussion? 994 00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:22,079 I guess I just need Yeah, maybe just to 995 00:42:22,079 --> 00:42:23,760 understand a little bit more. So this is 996 00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:28,400 for the surveyor. So I would assume then this will 997 00:42:28,400 --> 00:42:30,079 just 998 00:42:30,079 --> 00:42:33,760 backfill his salary or can you guys give 999 00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,200 me a little bit more? 1000 00:42:35,200 --> 00:42:38,400 >> I've had some discussions with 1001 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,760 uh our admin and attorney and surveyor 1002 00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:46,000 and recorder. um you know if this was a 1003 00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:47,520 grant that came to a department 1004 00:42:47,520 --> 00:42:48,880 generally would just go in their in 1005 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,400 their budget right but this is different 1006 00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,160 because it's an elected official and so 1007 00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,400 this is outside what from what I 1008 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:58,319 understand is what this is something 1009 00:42:58,319 --> 00:43:02,079 that's outside of his scope of work so I 1010 00:43:02,079 --> 00:43:05,520 don't know how exactly we will handle 1011 00:43:05,520 --> 00:43:06,800 this I think it's going to have more 1012 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:10,480 discussion as far as does this go into 1013 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,720 his budget I mean currently he just has 1014 00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:17,359 a salary in budget and but no supplies 1015 00:43:17,359 --> 00:43:21,040 and so he doesn't get gas money. So I 1016 00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:23,200 don't I don't know how if it could 1017 00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,280 possibly just go in his budget to pay 1018 00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,640 for supplies and expenses. 1019 00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:30,160 >> A couple a couple different ways to skin 1020 00:43:30,160 --> 00:43:33,599 catap. Um so one option is if if any 1021 00:43:33,599 --> 00:43:35,119 elected official is going to get an 1022 00:43:35,119 --> 00:43:36,640 increase salary, we're going to have to 1023 00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:38,960 go through the standard process uh 1024 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:42,000 public hearing notice in the newspaper 1025 00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,400 etc. That's not what's proposed tonight. 1026 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:47,119 It's instead just accepting a grant. Um 1027 00:43:47,119 --> 00:43:49,359 depending on we depending on how we look 1028 00:43:49,359 --> 00:43:50,720 at the scope of work. If it's something 1029 00:43:50,720 --> 00:43:52,880 that's beyond the surveyor's work, the 1030 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,480 commission could open and put it out for 1031 00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:56,720 a bid. Uh create the opportunity for 1032 00:43:56,720 --> 00:43:58,240 somebody to apply for that contract. If 1033 00:43:58,240 --> 00:43:59,599 that's how we're looking at it, saying, 1034 00:43:59,599 --> 00:44:01,040 "Hey, look, this isn't really within the 1035 00:44:01,040 --> 00:44:02,720 scope of the surveyor." Well, then the 1036 00:44:02,720 --> 00:44:04,319 obligation would fall to the county for 1037 00:44:04,319 --> 00:44:05,599 the county to go out and contract and 1038 00:44:05,599 --> 00:44:08,240 hire it. Um, it it was my intent when I 1039 00:44:08,240 --> 00:44:10,319 talked to admin about this item that we 1040 00:44:10,319 --> 00:44:12,319 come back and have additional follow-up 1041 00:44:12,319 --> 00:44:13,599 conversation about how we want to 1042 00:44:13,599 --> 00:44:16,240 structure this. If this is going to be 1043 00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:17,599 something that the commission has an 1044 00:44:17,599 --> 00:44:19,760 appetite to adjust the salary of the 1045 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:21,200 surveyor, that's a decision for the 1046 00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:23,040 commission to make. Um, if it's going to 1047 00:44:23,040 --> 00:44:24,160 be something that the commission is 1048 00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:25,839 going to put out for a bid and we're 1049 00:44:25,839 --> 00:44:27,280 saying it's outside the scope, that's a 1050 00:44:27,280 --> 00:44:28,720 decision that the commission and admin 1051 00:44:28,720 --> 00:44:30,800 would have to put out bid. If it falls 1052 00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:33,680 within the scope of the surveyor and the 1053 00:44:33,680 --> 00:44:35,280 commission is okay with him putting that 1054 00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:37,200 out for a bid, that's another option. 1055 00:44:37,200 --> 00:44:38,720 There a couple different options, couple 1056 00:44:38,720 --> 00:44:40,560 different nuances. Okay. But we couldn't 1057 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:42,640 just increase the salary amount for any 1058 00:44:42,640 --> 00:44:44,720 elected official. Like for example, the 1059 00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:46,079 grant that I brought up from my office 1060 00:44:46,079 --> 00:44:48,800 the other day, the 139, if if my office 1061 00:44:48,800 --> 00:44:51,040 gets that, I don't get to pocket that. 1062 00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:53,200 >> I assume it falls into my budget. 1063 00:44:53,200 --> 00:44:54,640 >> But that and that raised a really good 1064 00:44:54,640 --> 00:44:56,480 interesting question. When we get grants 1065 00:44:56,480 --> 00:44:58,560 that come into the county, I don't know 1066 00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:00,160 if we're going back and saying, "Hey, 1067 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:01,920 look, you have blessing to put it in 1068 00:45:01,920 --> 00:45:04,000 this particular area. I think it just 1069 00:45:04,000 --> 00:45:05,599 happens naturally when we do an amended 1070 00:45:05,599 --> 00:45:07,280 budget at the end of the year." But 1071 00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:09,839 that's one nuance that we have these 1072 00:45:09,839 --> 00:45:12,000 grants that come in, if we accept them 1073 00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:13,839 and receive them, how we go back through 1074 00:45:13,839 --> 00:45:16,079 and and add it. And so for the surveyor 1075 00:45:16,079 --> 00:45:17,520 for this one, I'm I think the 1076 00:45:17,520 --> 00:45:18,640 understanding is we're going to accept 1077 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:19,839 this grant. We're going to have to have 1078 00:45:19,839 --> 00:45:21,119 a follow-up conversation with the 1079 00:45:21,119 --> 00:45:23,920 commission on how we deem going forward 1080 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:27,280 as appropriate. Right. Okay. Did you 1081 00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:29,599 want to add anything to that, Gabe? 1082 00:45:29,599 --> 00:45:32,800 Yeah. I mean, as long as Okay, great. As 1083 00:45:32,800 --> 00:45:34,160 long as there's going to be a follow-up 1084 00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:35,839 conversation because, you know, it gets 1085 00:45:35,839 --> 00:45:38,079 into to me really muddy waters if we 1086 00:45:38,079 --> 00:45:38,880 have 1087 00:45:38,880 --> 00:45:40,960 >> whether it's elected or or employees 1088 00:45:40,960 --> 00:45:42,240 starting to write grants and going, 1089 00:45:42,240 --> 00:45:43,599 "Well, I'm just going to add this to my 1090 00:45:43,599 --> 00:45:45,359 salary." That that's really that's a 1091 00:45:45,359 --> 00:45:45,920 really 1092 00:45:45,920 --> 00:45:47,839 >> and there's but I like the idea that it 1093 00:45:47,839 --> 00:45:50,000 goes into his budget and if it's out of 1094 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:53,599 scope, maybe we put it out to bed or 1095 00:45:53,599 --> 00:45:55,040 >> stock guards. We have disclosure 1096 00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,800 requirements. There are things in my 1097 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:58,720 office. I can't hire my private practice 1098 00:45:58,720 --> 00:46:00,880 to do any of my stuff. So, we we have 1099 00:46:00,880 --> 00:46:02,720 some limitations on that. I think this 1100 00:46:02,720 --> 00:46:04,400 is a good conversation to have. We've 1101 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,400 started having those conversations. I 1102 00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:07,760 think the re one of the reasons why is 1103 00:46:07,760 --> 00:46:10,240 this grant turnaround is pretty quick. I 1104 00:46:10,240 --> 00:46:13,920 think we have to accept it like today. 1105 00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:16,000 >> The other Go ahead, Chuck, and then I'll 1106 00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:18,560 >> Yeah, just a as Stephen said, I think 1107 00:46:18,560 --> 00:46:20,560 right now voting yes on this is simply 1108 00:46:20,560 --> 00:46:22,319 accepting different that that's it. Is 1109 00:46:22,319 --> 00:46:23,920 that correct, Stephen? That's that's how 1110 00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:25,520 I read it. Again, I think there's 1111 00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:26,720 multiple things that haven't been 1112 00:46:26,720 --> 00:46:27,920 answered. Is it within the commission 1113 00:46:27,920 --> 00:46:29,680 scope? Is it within the surveyor scope? 1114 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:30,880 I think we take a moment and look at 1115 00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,319 that and follow. 1116 00:46:32,319 --> 00:46:34,240 >> Sounds good. Okay. Thanks. Thank you. 1117 00:46:34,240 --> 00:46:36,560 >> Yeah. When I spoke today, it's it needs 1118 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,359 to be turned back in tomorrow and then 1119 00:46:39,359 --> 00:46:41,760 they whoever is going to be performing 1120 00:46:41,760 --> 00:46:43,359 the work when you look at the grant and 1121 00:46:43,359 --> 00:46:45,839 this was on our July 7th agenda. So, if 1122 00:46:45,839 --> 00:46:46,880 you want to go back and look at the 1123 00:46:46,880 --> 00:46:51,839 actual grant um so they have to we have 1124 00:46:51,839 --> 00:46:53,359 to get it back. we accept it, then they 1125 00:46:53,359 --> 00:46:55,200 need to go to a training September 9th, 1126 00:46:55,200 --> 00:46:56,640 which is mandatory for anybody that's 1127 00:46:56,640 --> 00:46:58,560 going to be executing this grant. So, he 1128 00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,240 did say he would go to that September 1129 00:47:00,240 --> 00:47:03,839 9th regardless of it. Um, this is I know 1130 00:47:03,839 --> 00:47:06,000 that they called around to some other 1131 00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:08,160 counties that get this grant and kind of 1132 00:47:08,160 --> 00:47:10,240 talk about how they did it in theirs. 1133 00:47:10,240 --> 00:47:12,079 you know, 1134 00:47:12,079 --> 00:47:14,319 every county is different and the setups 1135 00:47:14,319 --> 00:47:18,960 are different, but it's um put these 15 1136 00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:20,720 uh monument placements and they 1137 00:47:20,720 --> 00:47:23,520 basically like if we let it fall through 1138 00:47:23,520 --> 00:47:28,480 the cracks this year and not do it, we probably won't get it again and which 1139 00:47:28,480 --> 00:47:30,240 is a good chunk of money. And these are 1140 00:47:30,240 --> 00:47:34,630 some pretty important 1141 00:47:34,640 --> 00:47:36,319 landmarks, I guess, you know, what we 1142 00:47:36,319 --> 00:47:38,079 could say. And so I I think there's 1143 00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:40,400 value in the conversation and moving 1144 00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:41,920 through it quickly and that's why I have 1145 00:47:41,920 --> 00:47:44,000 had quite a bit of discussion but I am 1146 00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,880 too wonder. Okay. 1147 00:47:46,880 --> 00:47:50,720 >> Okay. So um we had a motion to accept it 1148 00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:52,640 in a second. Do we have any more more 1149 00:47:52,640 --> 00:47:54,640 discussion? 1150 00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,480 >> All in favor 1151 00:47:56,480 --> 00:47:58,960 >> and that passes 6. 1152 00:47:58,960 --> 00:48:01,440 >> Hey Mel, you got your meeting 1153 00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:02,960 >> where it's the shortest meeting ever. 1154 00:48:02,960 --> 00:48:05,680 No, not just that. We voted unanimously, 1155 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:08,720 right? When everything that's what you 1156 00:48:08,720 --> 00:48:09,520 >> that one, 1157 00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:10,079 >> huh? 1158 00:48:10,079 --> 00:48:14,240 >> We unanimous that one. 1159 00:48:14,240 --> 00:48:17,680 >> So, we have um 1160 00:48:17,680 --> 00:48:19,680 a few more minutes. We could start with 1161 00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,000 um public. I bet we can move into it. 1162 00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,920 Depends on how many people that want to 1163 00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,079 speak in the audience. Do we have any 1164 00:48:26,079 --> 00:48:30,000 public comment tonight? 1165 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:31,200 No, we don't. Okay. Well, then we're 1166 00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:33,200 going to keep on I'll at 5:' I'll I'll 1167 00:48:33,200 --> 00:48:34,480 come back to that. We're just going to 1168 00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:36,559 move along. And because we have so much 1169 00:48:36,559 --> 00:48:38,800 free time tonight, I was going to open 1170 00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:41,280 it up to the commissioners if anyone 1171 00:48:41,280 --> 00:48:43,280 would like to share anything from their 1172 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:46,390 reports. 1173 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:47,760 » Go ahead, Mike. 1174 00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:51,920 >> Uh as always, uh general cast invite to 1175 00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:54,240 everyone around me 1176 00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:57,119 annual convention is the 9th and 10th 1177 00:48:57,119 --> 00:49:01,119 September. And um for those of those of 1178 00:49:01,119 --> 00:49:02,720 the public that don't know when I say 1179 00:49:02,720 --> 00:49:06,319 UAC, UAE is the Utah Association of 1180 00:49:06,319 --> 00:49:08,960 Counties and I I wrote something down 1181 00:49:08,960 --> 00:49:12,319 here. It's the uh annual uh convention 1182 00:49:12,319 --> 00:49:14,800 is where statewide policy agendas and 1183 00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:18,000 legislative priorities are set. I have 1184 00:49:18,000 --> 00:49:20,880 loved and learned greatly from UAC and 1185 00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:22,960 being part of several of the UAX policy 1186 00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:24,720 steering committees. there are lower 1187 00:49:24,720 --> 00:49:27,680 committees that actually decide 1188 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:29,440 compensation committee. We were just on 1189 00:49:29,440 --> 00:49:33,359 one but uh I have loved being part of 1190 00:49:33,359 --> 00:49:36,400 them uh and learning from them. Uh with 1191 00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:39,359 that same tip of the hat I again ask 1192 00:49:39,359 --> 00:49:41,920 everyone in attendance uh along with 1193 00:49:41,920 --> 00:49:45,200 myself along with uh Mark Quinn Dana I 1194 00:49:45,200 --> 00:49:47,119 have asked to travel to the UA 1195 00:49:47,119 --> 00:49:50,800 convention. Uh I am not fully 1196 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:52,640 comfortable with having 28 other 1197 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:55,599 counties uh recommend what Grant County 1198 00:49:55,599 --> 00:49:58,000 should do. Uh that's why we're there. 1199 00:49:58,000 --> 00:49:59,680 That's why we're a part and we're a 1200 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:01,839 voting member is to actually put Grant 1201 00:50:01,839 --> 00:50:05,040 County State in into UAC. It being one 1202 00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:07,839 of the largest uh lobbying bodies uh 1203 00:50:07,839 --> 00:50:11,359 within the Utah legislature. Um in that 1204 00:50:11,359 --> 00:50:13,680 Grant County is not an island. Uh we're 1205 00:50:13,680 --> 00:50:15,599 not just sitting here in the dark. uh 1206 00:50:15,599 --> 00:50:18,400 state level policy changes uh directly 1207 00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:20,640 hit our budgets. They directly hit our 1208 00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,880 decisions down here and we need to 1209 00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:24,800 remain part of the conversation as 1210 00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:29,200 always and I welcome and ask my fellow 1211 00:50:29,200 --> 00:50:31,760 commissioners to please attend with me. 1212 00:50:31,760 --> 00:50:35,680 Uh I know everyone's busy but this this 1213 00:50:35,680 --> 00:50:38,160 is very important and the public needs 1214 00:50:38,160 --> 00:50:39,520 to know it's very important that we 1215 00:50:39,520 --> 00:50:42,800 actually do make attendance. 1216 00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,200 >> Okay. Thanks, Jock. 1217 00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:47,680 >> Welcome. Uh, I attended the, uh, LEAPC 1218 00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:48,800 meeting, which is the emergency 1219 00:50:48,800 --> 00:50:51,200 management um, meeting, and I just want 1220 00:50:51,200 --> 00:50:53,280 to give a huge shout out to to Kate 1221 00:50:53,280 --> 00:50:54,800 Finley, who's our county admin, uh, 1222 00:50:54,800 --> 00:50:56,559 emergency manager. She's been a just 1223 00:50:56,559 --> 00:50:59,760 done a great job with um, forwarding 1224 00:50:59,760 --> 00:51:01,280 every everything kind of emergency 1225 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:03,119 management in Grand County. When I first 1226 00:51:03,119 --> 00:51:04,960 got elected, we didn't even have an 1227 00:51:04,960 --> 00:51:07,760 emergency manager. We had those uh, we 1228 00:51:07,760 --> 00:51:09,680 had that crazy fire my first year on and 1229 00:51:09,680 --> 00:51:11,760 the floods the second year. to agree to 1230 00:51:11,760 --> 00:51:12,880 that position in the sheriff's office, 1231 00:51:12,880 --> 00:51:15,440 but Kate's just taken it above beyond. 1232 00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,920 Um, at that meeting, the super well 1233 00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:20,000 attended with with uh folks from the 1234 00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,160 city, the county, the fire department, 1235 00:51:22,160 --> 00:51:24,880 EMS, lots of other agencies, national 1236 00:51:24,880 --> 00:51:29,040 parks, etc. Um and this this last one 1237 00:51:29,040 --> 00:51:30,640 she arranged for a couple of really good 1238 00:51:30,640 --> 00:51:34,079 presentations from county actually Cody 1239 00:51:34,079 --> 00:51:38,800 and uh and the city too uh presenting um 1240 00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,040 flood mitigation efforts in the 1241 00:51:41,040 --> 00:51:43,119 all-American wash as well as the efforts 1242 00:51:43,119 --> 00:51:46,480 to shore up uh Mil Creek through town. 1243 00:51:46,480 --> 00:51:48,000 Those are those are great. There's some 1244 00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:49,839 good discussion afterwards on both of 1245 00:51:49,839 --> 00:51:52,559 those. So that was that was cool. And 1246 00:51:52,559 --> 00:51:54,240 then the other one, Brian also attended 1247 00:51:54,240 --> 00:51:56,079 the Arches bike access meeting. I think 1248 00:51:56,079 --> 00:51:58,160 we're it's a really cool committee of a 1249 00:51:58,160 --> 00:51:59,839 bunch of different people who are just 1250 00:51:59,839 --> 00:52:01,599 interested in in furthering bike access 1251 00:52:01,599 --> 00:52:04,319 into Arches. Uh finally talking about 1252 00:52:04,319 --> 00:52:06,319 next steps, kind of low hanging fruit, 1253 00:52:06,319 --> 00:52:09,040 what we're going to be working on. Um uh 1254 00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:11,040 kind of a map of the plan and then 1255 00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,960 working on things such as uh signage and 1256 00:52:14,960 --> 00:52:17,599 uh shoulder and paint work, just just 1257 00:52:17,599 --> 00:52:20,079 kind of easy stuff can improve bike 1258 00:52:20,079 --> 00:52:23,839 access experience into arches. So both 1259 00:52:23,839 --> 00:52:26,240 but those meetings were were cool and uh 1260 00:52:26,240 --> 00:52:29,200 worth mentioning 1261 00:52:29,200 --> 00:52:31,200 all the team and the paper too. Good. So 1262 00:52:31,200 --> 00:52:33,270 thanks. Yeah 1263 00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:34,160 la la la la la la la la la la la la la launch today. That's 1264 00:52:34,160 --> 00:52:38,319 my update. I've been working on little bugs that we've been working out 1265 00:52:38,319 --> 00:52:40,559 with that. So about to go out to the 1266 00:52:40,559 --> 00:52:42,480 visitor center and take some pictures of 1267 00:52:42,480 --> 00:52:45,760 it. But that's exciting for the county. 1268 00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:48,400 And next week on the ETH will be the the 1269 00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,670 grand opening 1270 00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:56,230 kickoff kickoff. 1271 00:52:56,240 --> 00:52:58,640 » All right. Any other comments? We have a 1272 00:52:58,640 --> 00:53:00,400 report from our town attorney. 1273 00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:03,119 >> I can just give a brief update. Um, we 1274 00:53:03,119 --> 00:53:04,960 had a follow-up meeting with Chair 1275 00:53:04,960 --> 00:53:07,280 Mccandless and the sheriff uh earlier 1276 00:53:07,280 --> 00:53:10,000 this afternoon regarding the victim 1277 00:53:10,000 --> 00:53:12,000 position and identifying good terms and 1278 00:53:12,000 --> 00:53:13,119 good things that we can do moving 1279 00:53:13,119 --> 00:53:15,119 forward for her uh shifting in field 1280 00:53:15,119 --> 00:53:17,359 work. So, that's exciting. Later this 1281 00:53:17,359 --> 00:53:21,520 month, I'll be at South Padre Island in 1282 00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:25,839 Texas for the uh the Institute on a 1283 00:53:25,839 --> 00:53:27,040 Coordinated Community Response to 1284 00:53:27,040 --> 00:53:30,079 domestic violence. Um they fund that 1285 00:53:30,079 --> 00:53:33,280 training. They fund the flight, RDM and 1286 00:53:33,280 --> 00:53:35,200 hotel. That's a phenomenal uh training 1287 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,040 that they do. They were the com the 1288 00:53:37,040 --> 00:53:38,559 entity that would come into the 1289 00:53:38,559 --> 00:53:39,520 community and do trainings on 1290 00:53:39,520 --> 00:53:43,359 strangulation. Uh there are additional 1291 00:53:43,359 --> 00:53:44,640 good items that we're doing from 1292 00:53:44,640 --> 00:53:46,800 followup from that and as well as the 1293 00:53:46,800 --> 00:53:48,800 fall prosecutor training conference that 1294 00:53:48,800 --> 00:53:52,640 I'll be attending uh later this month. 1295 00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:54,480 Otherwise, we've got some jury trials 1296 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,640 coming up. Got one next week. And 1297 00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,480 otherwise, all things are continuing as 1298 00:53:58,480 --> 00:54:00,400 normal. That's good. Good wind surfing 1299 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:02,800 out on South Padre Island. Looks like a 1300 00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:05,200 It's a fun place. 1301 00:54:05,200 --> 00:54:10,549 >> Let's see doing that in a suit. 1302 00:54:10,559 --> 00:54:13,119 » Mark, give me a wet suit. Are you 1303 00:54:13,119 --> 00:54:15,680 >> just working on filling some key 1304 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:19,359 positions with the county? Um, so we're 1305 00:54:19,359 --> 00:54:22,480 moving in with that and hopefully we'll 1306 00:54:22,480 --> 00:54:26,240 have some replacements soon. 1307 00:54:26,240 --> 00:54:26,800 >> Okay, 1308 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,280 >> give me that. All right, we got some. 1309 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:30,720 All right, come on up. We got to kill 1310 00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:34,319 them. We got seven minutes. 1311 00:54:34,319 --> 00:54:36,319 It's only five. Um, huge shout out to 1312 00:54:36,319 --> 00:54:38,400 our office of tourism team and make and 1313 00:54:38,400 --> 00:54:40,559 the people over there for getting the uh 1314 00:54:40,559 --> 00:54:42,800 award at the ESCO for the number one new 1315 00:54:42,800 --> 00:54:44,720 campaign. That was super cool, super 1316 00:54:44,720 --> 00:54:46,480 exciting for them. Grateful for all the 1317 00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:47,760 hard work that's gone into that. It's 1318 00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,760 been 1319 00:54:49,760 --> 00:54:51,920 took us what four months to select a 1320 00:54:51,920 --> 00:54:54,800 marketing team and Nick to get on board 1321 00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:56,160 and it's it's been a phenomenal amount 1322 00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:57,680 of work. So I want huge congratulations 1323 00:54:57,680 --> 00:54:59,920 to them. And then on a second note, we 1324 00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:01,119 did have some pipe delivered for the 1325 00:55:01,119 --> 00:55:03,839 Jackson Street project. So that is 1326 00:55:03,839 --> 00:55:05,760 >> that moving and going that'll be in the 1327 00:55:05,760 --> 00:55:07,839 ground um for the future consideration. 1328 00:55:07,839 --> 00:55:09,280 We should at some point as permission 1329 00:55:09,280 --> 00:55:10,880 discuss 1330 00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,680 the sidewalk. 1331 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,880 >> Yes. So 1332 00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:18,800 >> yes and we could have that. We are 1333 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:20,079 hopefully going to have another meeting 1334 00:55:20,079 --> 00:55:22,720 with city. I know that Stout Quinn 1335 00:55:22,720 --> 00:55:24,319 actually did for the safe streets for 1336 00:55:24,319 --> 00:55:25,839 all. think come and present to both of 1337 00:55:25,839 --> 00:55:27,359 us at the same time would be great. And 1338 00:55:27,359 --> 00:55:29,599 so I know we're going to do a fall joint 1339 00:55:29,599 --> 00:55:31,119 meeting with the city. So that would be 1340 00:55:31,119 --> 00:55:32,559 a good time. And hopefully by then we 1341 00:55:32,559 --> 00:55:34,720 might have discussion on this. I don't 1342 00:55:34,720 --> 00:55:36,240 since that's what came up at our first 1343 00:55:36,240 --> 00:55:38,160 joint meeting. 1344 00:55:38,160 --> 00:55:41,520 >> Yeah. I think that I don't know. I had 1345 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:43,280 lunch with Kimley Horn yesterday and 1346 00:55:43,280 --> 00:55:44,720 they suggested that that would be an 1347 00:55:44,720 --> 00:55:46,559 effective way to present it was to have 1348 00:55:46,559 --> 00:55:47,760 you know both the city and the county at 1349 00:55:47,760 --> 00:55:50,160 the same meeting which is great. I don't 1350 00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,319 know which day we want to meet as a 1351 00:55:52,319 --> 00:55:55,200 food. and I kind of said I kind of 1352 00:55:55,200 --> 00:55:56,480 pushed for our county commission date. 1353 00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:56,880 But 1354 00:55:56,880 --> 00:55:58,079 >> well, that is when the next one will be 1355 00:55:58,079 --> 00:55:59,839 because you went to the city. So now 1356 00:55:59,839 --> 00:56:02,240 county, but I I have to go to the mayor. 1357 00:56:02,240 --> 00:56:03,520 >> Yeah. So I think they were thinking the 1358 00:56:03,520 --> 00:56:05,440 Kimley Horn people were thinking one of 1359 00:56:05,440 --> 00:56:07,200 those uh two meetings in October would 1360 00:56:07,200 --> 00:56:09,920 be great. 1361 00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:14,150 >> Okay. 1362 00:56:14,160 --> 00:56:15,280 » Go ahead, Brian. 1363 00:56:15,280 --> 00:56:17,440 >> Yeah. Yeah. just second what uh Quinn 1364 00:56:17,440 --> 00:56:20,319 had said that um you know that campaign 1365 00:56:20,319 --> 00:56:24,799 um that that Madden has put together was fantastic and to be involved with 1366 00:56:24,799 --> 00:56:26,400 that and to see all the work that that 1367 00:56:26,400 --> 00:56:29,040 team has done to try to lift up tourism 1368 00:56:29,040 --> 00:56:31,440 here was it was amazing. Uh Mick sent us 1369 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:33,920 a little video of uh um when the award 1370 00:56:33,920 --> 00:56:35,760 was presented there was about a thousand 1371 00:56:35,760 --> 00:56:37,280 people in the audience just to give you 1372 00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,359 an idea of the number of people that had 1373 00:56:39,359 --> 00:56:41,920 applied for this award right there. and 1374 00:56:41,920 --> 00:56:43,680 you know to have that campaign selected 1375 00:56:43,680 --> 00:56:46,079 as the number one campaign was it was 1376 00:56:46,079 --> 00:56:47,680 awesome. So they've done a lot of work 1377 00:56:47,680 --> 00:56:49,760 and really a great big shout out to 1378 00:56:49,760 --> 00:56:52,319 those guys. Um other little things is on 1379 00:56:52,319 --> 00:56:55,119 the 24th we attend uh uh myself and 1380 00:56:55,119 --> 00:56:56,640 commissioner Winfield attended the 1381 00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,720 planned parentship 1382 00:56:58,720 --> 00:57:01,839 meeting um which is the uh uh was the 1383 00:57:01,839 --> 00:57:03,839 launching of the baby and you and then 1384 00:57:03,839 --> 00:57:06,000 also some uh uh early work on our 1385 00:57:06,000 --> 00:57:08,640 economic mobility plan um which will be 1386 00:57:08,640 --> 00:57:11,200 drafting a charter and then architecting 1387 00:57:11,200 --> 00:57:13,839 the work plan um that will kind of pair 1388 00:57:13,839 --> 00:57:15,599 along with the reach bill that came out 1389 00:57:15,599 --> 00:57:19,040 which was the SB 165. So, a lot of great 1390 00:57:19,040 --> 00:57:20,559 work is starting there. I think that 1391 00:57:20,559 --> 00:57:22,640 we're going to see see some neat things 1392 00:57:22,640 --> 00:57:27,760 coming from that. Um, I also attended 1393 00:57:27,760 --> 00:57:29,760 um a couple of uh policy steering 1394 00:57:29,760 --> 00:57:32,000 committees that Mike mentioned. Um, one 1395 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,240 that I would bring out as well is the uh 1396 00:57:34,240 --> 00:57:36,240 community development right now. There 1397 00:57:36,240 --> 00:57:38,480 is some legislation coming in on land 1398 00:57:38,480 --> 00:57:41,760 use code updates. Um, and on that right 1399 00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:44,079 there, uh, one of the big ones that 1400 00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:45,680 everyone is kind of interested in right 1401 00:57:45,680 --> 00:57:48,240 now is the, uh, definitions on data 1402 00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:50,480 centers. So, right now, what everyone is 1403 00:57:50,480 --> 00:57:52,720 looking at is is the state is going to 1404 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:55,839 basically bind data centers. And when 1405 00:57:55,839 --> 00:57:57,680 we're updating our land use code, 1406 00:57:57,680 --> 00:57:59,760 whether you're trying to bring data 1407 00:57:59,760 --> 00:58:01,680 centers in or you're trying to keep data 1408 00:58:01,680 --> 00:58:04,240 centers out, the definitions of what 1409 00:58:04,240 --> 00:58:06,000 that is would be probably the most 1410 00:58:06,000 --> 00:58:07,520 foundational piece as we're moving 1411 00:58:07,520 --> 00:58:10,319 forward in that land use code. So, you 1412 00:58:10,319 --> 00:58:12,720 know, just working for with the uh uh 1413 00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:14,960 UAC to try to get the legislators to 1414 00:58:14,960 --> 00:58:16,480 make sure they're putting that those 1415 00:58:16,480 --> 00:58:18,480 definitions out so that communities can 1416 00:58:18,480 --> 00:58:20,400 go ahead and and and actually uh update 1417 00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:22,799 their land use codes. Um that was a 1418 00:58:22,799 --> 00:58:24,799 pretty interesting little meeting. And 1419 00:58:24,799 --> 00:58:26,799 then we had the SERA board meeting on 1420 00:58:26,799 --> 00:58:31,040 the 27th, which was really neat. Um and 1421 00:58:31,040 --> 00:58:32,640 then the last two days I've been up at 1422 00:58:32,640 --> 00:58:35,520 the Southeastern Energy Summit in SERA 1423 00:58:35,520 --> 00:58:38,000 and so that was great to go see that. Um 1424 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,440 there's a ton of great work that they're 1425 00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:41,680 doing out there in Carbon County right 1426 00:58:41,680 --> 00:58:44,720 now. Um we went and visited today the uh 1427 00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:47,200 San Raphael Energy Lab and there's just 1428 00:58:47,200 --> 00:58:49,359 there's so many solutions and that 1429 00:58:49,359 --> 00:58:50,799 they're trying to come up with and it's 1430 00:58:50,799 --> 00:58:52,960 great to see all the work that's going 1431 00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:54,880 into that into that little center over 1432 00:58:54,880 --> 00:58:57,119 there whether it's Valor Atomics or the 1433 00:58:57,119 --> 00:58:59,839 Energy Lab and um the way that they're 1434 00:58:59,839 --> 00:59:03,839 working with uh desalinization and just 1435 00:59:03,839 --> 00:59:05,760 ways that we could actually possibly use 1436 00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,240 nuclear into the future. So rather than 1437 00:59:08,240 --> 00:59:10,240 just, you know, producing the energy, 1438 00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:11,920 they're also doing all the research that 1439 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:14,160 goes behind it. So it was really neat to 1440 00:59:14,160 --> 00:59:16,079 go check that out and then also to go 1441 00:59:16,079 --> 00:59:20,079 visit the uh um the uh uh airport out 1442 00:59:20,079 --> 00:59:23,520 there and the USU's um aviation school 1443 00:59:23,520 --> 00:59:25,119 that they have. There's a lot of 1444 00:59:25,119 --> 00:59:26,720 economic development that's been done 1445 00:59:26,720 --> 00:59:28,559 out there and it's it's really neat to 1446 00:59:28,559 --> 00:59:30,559 see all the stuff that they've done and 1447 00:59:30,559 --> 00:59:32,079 all the stuff that they have coming up 1448 00:59:32,079 --> 00:59:34,559 as well. and quite a few interesting 1449 00:59:34,559 --> 00:59:37,119 things as far as air taxis and all kinds 1450 00:59:37,119 --> 00:59:38,799 of really neat things that are that are 1451 00:59:38,799 --> 00:59:41,520 coming out here into this uh rural Utah. 1452 00:59:41,520 --> 00:59:43,280 And you know, it's that that was really 1453 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:45,680 kind of like my feeling of that whole 1454 00:59:45,680 --> 00:59:47,440 little sort of board meeting, which is, 1455 00:59:47,440 --> 00:59:49,280 you know, just we all forget that we're 1456 00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:51,359 just southeastern Utah, right? And if we 1457 00:59:51,359 --> 00:59:52,960 don't look after each other, I mean, 1458 00:59:52,960 --> 00:59:54,880 nobody else will. So, it's great to see 1459 00:59:54,880 --> 00:59:56,240 all the partners and all the communities 1460 00:59:56,240 --> 00:59:58,160 that are around and see the support that 1461 00:59:58,160 --> 00:59:59,280 they're all giving each other. Even 1462 00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:01,119 though that we're different in the ways 1463 01:00:01,119 --> 01:00:03,440 that we our communities are and that the 1464 01:00:03,440 --> 01:00:05,599 uh um you know how we present, it is 1465 01:00:05,599 --> 01:00:08,079 great to see all that support. 1466 01:00:08,079 --> 01:00:10,640 >> I have a uh one thing to add, Brian. Um 1467 01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:13,599 will you be we as far as the OI grant 1468 01:00:13,599 --> 01:00:15,119 mudsprings thing, will you be bringing 1469 01:00:15,119 --> 01:00:18,240 that to the um MTAP board as the 1470 01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:18,960 leazison? 1471 01:00:18,960 --> 01:00:20,640 >> I'll make sure that Lindell has that I 1472 01:00:20,640 --> 01:00:22,400 think on the 8th when that board meeting 1473 01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:24,319 is. I think that that's the uh opening 1474 01:00:24,319 --> 01:00:26,160 on the shuttle. So, I'll probably be out 1475 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:27,359 riding on the shuttle that day. I'll 1476 01:00:27,359 --> 01:00:28,960 probably missing that meeting, but I 1477 01:00:28,960 --> 01:00:31,040 will make sure that it gets put on the 1478 01:00:31,040 --> 01:00:34,559 United Way Olympics. 1479 01:00:34,559 --> 01:00:36,960 >> Okay, that brings us to 5:00. So, we 1480 01:00:36,960 --> 01:00:38,720 will go with our citizens to be heard, 1481 01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:40,799 public to be heard. You have anyone in 1482 01:00:40,799 --> 01:00:42,000 the audience who'd like to come and 1483 01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,160 speak? 1484 01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:58,319 Alison Matthysse. I'm a resident of 1485 01:00:58,319 --> 01:01:00,240 Moab. [clears throat] I am here to 1486 01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:02,640 exercise my First Amendment rights for 1487 01:01:02,640 --> 01:01:04,799 free speech and to petition the 1488 01:01:04,799 --> 01:01:06,799 government for the repressive 1489 01:01:06,799 --> 01:01:09,680 grievances. I am also here because I am 1490 01:01:09,680 --> 01:01:12,799 angry. I'm angry that this commission, 1491 01:01:12,799 --> 01:01:15,520 specifically Chair McCannis, continues 1492 01:01:15,520 --> 01:01:18,000 to either suppress people's first 1493 01:01:18,000 --> 01:01:20,960 amendment rights or try to. That is 1494 01:01:20,960 --> 01:01:23,760 frankly wrong. 1495 01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:25,839 Whether it happens to me, as it happened 1496 01:01:25,839 --> 01:01:28,559 in February, or it happened last week to 1497 01:01:28,559 --> 01:01:32,400 that other gentleman, it's still wrong. 1498 01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,880 Trying to suppress what something says 1499 01:01:34,880 --> 01:01:37,520 is called viewpoint discrimination, and 1500 01:01:37,520 --> 01:01:40,319 that is unconstitutional. 1501 01:01:40,319 --> 01:01:44,720 It needs to stop. I will be emailing you 1502 01:01:44,720 --> 01:01:47,440 guys this information sheet that is from 1503 01:01:47,440 --> 01:01:49,520 the foundation for individual rights and 1504 01:01:49,520 --> 01:01:52,319 expression. It's entitled know your 1505 01:01:52,319 --> 01:01:55,040 rights public comment periods. And it 1506 01:01:55,040 --> 01:01:56,559 says that's because in the United 1507 01:01:56,559 --> 01:01:58,880 States, quote, "Debate on public issues 1508 01:01:58,880 --> 01:02:00,960 should be uninhibited, robust, and wide 1509 01:02:00,960 --> 01:02:03,680 open." End quote. Even when it includes 1510 01:02:03,680 --> 01:02:06,240 quote vehement, costic, and sometimes 1511 01:02:06,240 --> 01:02:08,559 unpleasantly sharp attacks on government 1512 01:02:08,559 --> 01:02:10,799 and public officials. This is from New 1513 01:02:10,799 --> 01:02:15,119 York Times Company versus Sullivan 1964. 1514 01:02:15,119 --> 01:02:18,799 It needs to stop. If a commissioner or 1515 01:02:18,799 --> 01:02:20,960 the commission as a whole is doing 1516 01:02:20,960 --> 01:02:23,280 something that I find problematic, I get 1517 01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:26,160 to say that whether or not you like it, 1518 01:02:26,160 --> 01:02:28,400 that is my first amendment right. And if 1519 01:02:28,400 --> 01:02:30,559 it's an individual commissioner, such as 1520 01:02:30,559 --> 01:02:33,520 the way uh uh nearly a month ago, Mr. 1521 01:02:33,520 --> 01:02:37,200 Winfield violated the commission's rules 1522 01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,280 in attacking other commissioners and 1523 01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:42,480 then did not adhere to the Robert's rule 1524 01:02:42,480 --> 01:02:45,280 of rules of whatever it's called and 1525 01:02:45,280 --> 01:02:47,359 acknowledging a point of order. I get to 1526 01:02:47,359 --> 01:02:50,160 say that and I also get to say that I'm 1527 01:02:50,160 --> 01:02:52,960 upset that two weeks ago Mccandas, Miss 1528 01:02:52,960 --> 01:02:56,640 McCandless did what I considered to be a 1529 01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,760 unfair both siding about that event. She 1530 01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:01,760 said in the time period before I was 1531 01:03:01,760 --> 01:03:04,000 here last week, but personal attacks, 1532 01:03:04,000 --> 01:03:06,079 interruptions, walkouts, and hostility 1533 01:03:06,079 --> 01:03:08,720 undermine public trust and distract us 1534 01:03:08,720 --> 01:03:10,880 from the work constituents elected us to 1535 01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:13,760 do. the hostility 1536 01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:15,760 was coming and personal attacks was 1537 01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:17,599 coming from Mr. Winfield. What choice 1538 01:03:17,599 --> 01:03:20,400 did the other commissioners have to but 1539 01:03:20,400 --> 01:03:22,400 to walk out? I honestly think that's the 1540 01:03:22,400 --> 01:03:24,480 best response that they could have done 1541 01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,319 because commission's rules were being 1542 01:03:26,319 --> 01:03:28,480 violated. I get to say things that I 1543 01:03:28,480 --> 01:03:30,319 think that the shuttle policy is a 1544 01:03:30,319 --> 01:03:33,119 really bad policy. And I also get to say 1545 01:03:33,119 --> 01:03:35,760 that I think it's a waste of tax dollars 1546 01:03:35,760 --> 01:03:38,000 and I'm upset that four commissioners 1547 01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,640 specifically Mr. Martinez, Mr. McCardy, 1548 01:03:40,640 --> 01:03:42,640 Mr. Winfield and Miss McCandless has 1549 01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:45,440 ignored a mass amount of public uh 1550 01:03:45,440 --> 01:03:47,680 comment, ignored a vast amount of 1551 01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:49,520 expertise on the topic and ran that 1552 01:03:49,520 --> 01:03:51,920 ahead. Anyway, I think it's even more 1553 01:03:51,920 --> 01:03:54,720 poorly implemented. I also get to say 1554 01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:56,799 things that it's well known in the 1555 01:03:56,799 --> 01:03:58,960 public that Brian Martinez got fired 1556 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:00,400 from his private sector job. 1557 01:04:00,400 --> 01:04:02,480 >> All right, your time is up. Thank you. 1558 01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:03,920 Have a good evening. 1559 01:04:03,920 --> 01:04:05,599 >> Also, real quickly, 1560 01:04:05,599 --> 01:04:07,520 >> no, ma'am. Your time is up. 1561 01:04:07,520 --> 01:04:09,039 >> Ma'am, your time is up. 1562 01:04:09,039 --> 01:04:10,720 >> Wind of order. Point of order. Your time 1563 01:04:10,720 --> 01:04:12,319 is up, ma'am. Thank you. 1564 01:04:12,319 --> 01:04:14,480 >> Thank you. 1565 01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:16,160 >> Not the chair. Brian, 1566 01:04:16,160 --> 01:04:19,039 >> I call point of order. 1567 01:04:19,039 --> 01:04:20,000 >> And there's 1568 01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:23,200 >> Okay, that's enough. Um, did you want to 1569 01:04:23,200 --> 01:04:25,119 speak since you just came in? 1570 01:04:25,119 --> 01:04:27,119 >> Well, again, I don't want to, but I was 1571 01:04:27,119 --> 01:04:27,839 planning to. 1572 01:04:27,839 --> 01:04:28,480 >> Okay. Well, 1573 01:04:28,480 --> 01:04:29,359 >> is it my turn? 1574 01:04:29,359 --> 01:04:30,960 >> Yes. 1575 01:04:30,960 --> 01:04:32,559 I think we're Yeah, unless somebody else 1576 01:04:32,559 --> 01:04:34,400 walks in the door, you're going to be 1577 01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:34,960 >> What's up? 1578 01:04:34,960 --> 01:04:36,640 >> I said unless somebody else walks in the 1579 01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:38,240 door, we're going to join the meeting. 1580 01:04:38,240 --> 01:04:39,200 So 1581 01:04:39,200 --> 01:04:41,119 >> I think I can under three minutes. I 1582 01:04:41,119 --> 01:04:42,720 wish I could have just yield some of my 1583 01:04:42,720 --> 01:04:44,400 time. Maybe I could have 1584 01:04:44,400 --> 01:04:45,839 >> yield time. Sorry. It's in our policies 1585 01:04:45,839 --> 01:04:47,039 and procedures. 1586 01:04:47,039 --> 01:04:51,280 >> Okay. Um looking at the cost of Arches 1587 01:04:51,280 --> 01:04:55,200 Shuttle numbers. Um on an annual basis, 1588 01:04:55,200 --> 01:04:58,240 taxpayers are spending $8,000 per day. 1589 01:04:58,240 --> 01:04:59,920 However, it's only supposed to operate 1590 01:04:59,920 --> 01:05:04,079 six months of the year. $16,000 a day. 1591 01:05:04,079 --> 01:05:05,599 Um 1592 01:05:05,599 --> 01:05:07,359 what else I was going to say? And I was 1593 01:05:07,359 --> 01:05:10,319 looking over some recent travel budgets 1594 01:05:10,319 --> 01:05:13,760 and two members of the commission stood 1595 01:05:13,760 --> 01:05:17,119 out. I'm making eye contact with them 1596 01:05:17,119 --> 01:05:19,440 for exceeding their travel budgets by 1597 01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:23,359 substantial margins. And it's not even 1598 01:05:23,359 --> 01:05:26,559 the end of the year. It's still 2026 for 1599 01:05:26,559 --> 01:05:29,119 another 5 months or four months. Did I 1600 01:05:29,119 --> 01:05:31,599 do the math right? Four months. Anyway, 1601 01:05:31,599 --> 01:05:34,799 thank you very much. I did it in 1602 01:05:34,799 --> 01:05:37,200 47. You have 40 seconds. 1603 01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:39,920 >> Thank you. Okay. Anyone else in the 1604 01:05:39,920 --> 01:05:43,750 audience like to speak? 1605 01:05:43,760 --> 01:05:45,680 » All right. Well, with that, we will 1606 01:05:45,680 --> 01:05:49,359 adjourn this meeting at 5:05 p.m. 1607 01:05:49,359 --> 01:05:54,710 >> Thank you. And we have a good night. 1608 01:05:54,720 --> 01:05:57,680 I don't know like almost were you 1609 01:05:57,680 --> 01:06:01,400 if I knew it was anything.