[0:22] I'd like to open this family
[0:30] and we have commissioner Dean,
[0:32] Commissioner Hadler, Mr. Martinez,
[0:34] Commissioner Mans absent, Mr. Murie,
[0:37] Commissioner Winfield, myself
[0:39] with our county attorney Steven Sts,
[0:41] Commission Administrator Laura Piner,
[0:43] and our clerk.
[0:46] And with that, we'll stand for the
[0:47] pledge of
[0:47] >> allegiance.
[0:51] I pledge to the flag of the United
[0:54] States of America and to the republic
[0:57] for which it stands, one nation under
[1:00] God, indivisible, liberty and justice
[1:03] for all.
[1:10] Okay. So, we
[1:14] going to be starting out with a
[1:17] department report with your
[1:23] know all the way to that one. We know
[1:26] how much you love these.
[1:28] >> I thought I was sick. Well, so we had a
[1:31] maintenance department that's been
[1:33] postponed.
[1:35] You are second. You're actually our one
[1:37] and only
[1:39] postponed.
[1:51] » You're letting me
[1:52] >> Oh, I got to let you share your screen.
[1:58] And bear with me because you know I'm
[1:59] not technologically
[2:11] » you should be good.
[2:12] >> And then I just pick what
[2:19] I do.
[2:49] Where is it?
[2:51] Am
[2:56] I sharing?
[2:56] >> You are
[3:08] the last one, please.
[3:18] Um,
[3:20] good afternoon. And y'all know I'm
[3:22] Yordi. I'm the program director at the
[3:24] senior center. Welcome to September.
[3:27] is actually healthy aging
[3:29] month. So, I'm here at the right time.
[3:33] Okay. We started the new year with a new
[3:35] bus driver and a brand new CDL. Thank
[3:37] you guys very much. We really
[3:40] appreciate. Love her. Okay. beginning in
[3:43] 2025 and continuing into 2026, there
[3:46] seems to be more awareness of senior
[3:48] issues or aging adult issues. And in
[3:54] fall of last year, we had a listening
[3:57] session for Governor Cox's WISE
[3:59] initiative. The WISE Initiative focuses
[4:02] on the four pillars of aging, wealth,
[4:04] independence, security, and engagement.
[4:07] This is a 10-year plan for the whole
[4:09] state of Utah and the final draft is on
[4:12] their department of human services under
[4:17] division of aging services. Um, also
[4:20] Governor Cox came down to give one of
[4:22] our seniors a Marlene Zosi an award. Um,
[4:27] the county also did a needs assessment.
[4:30] Um, and it was well covered. a lot of um
[4:33] people did it and it brought up Grand
[4:35] County's issues, senior issues which
[4:38] include senior housing is a big thing
[4:40] and non-emergency medical transport.
[4:43] Karen, who's the head of our um council
[4:45] on aging, is a great advocate for our
[4:47] seniors and is on the board of this
[4:50] healthcare special district trying to
[4:52] get senior housing. Our whole council on
[4:54] aging is great and they take care not
[4:57] only of each other, the seniors in the
[4:59] senior center, but they also help some
[5:01] of the people outside of the senior
[5:02] center. I have met with the hospital
[5:05] administration to discuss non-emergency
[5:08] medical transport and a new pilot
[5:10] program for Medicare that they're doing,
[5:12] which is dealing with chronic pain.
[5:15] A couple weeks later, I got a email from
[5:21] an email. Yeah, it was a survey
[5:23] regarding transportation in rural Utah
[5:27] by UD do and Ursta
[5:29] and I also had a conversation with my
[5:32] other surveyors and it's nice to know
[5:33] that southern Utah is we're thinking of
[5:35] our needs down here. We've also
[5:37] collaborated with other partners this
[5:39] year not only with our seniors but our
[5:42] community as a whole. Um, the United
[5:44] Ways has a birth to hospice program that
[5:46] they're doing and the new mothers are
[5:48] going to start I think the 12th and
[5:51] they're going to do it for six weeks.
[5:53] That should be a great thing. The Utah
[5:55] Department of Justice Justice came down
[5:57] to add awareness for regarding scams
[6:00] that are targeted toward our seniors.
[6:03] Well, they're targeted everybody, but
[6:04] we're worried about the seniors. We've
[6:06] also became a station for American.
[6:12] Um, and we had an intern that was
[6:14] working with the hospital and she
[6:15] volunteered to do something for us. So,
[6:17] she did a really great job making our
[6:19] resource guide for seniors and it's on
[6:21] the county website.
[6:24] And we also have copies of this wonder.
[6:27] The Wellness Collective is offering a
[6:29] weekly chair yoga class. They also have
[6:31] a grant for creative aging from Utah
[6:34] Division of Arts and they will start
[6:36] it's a beginning class on pencil drawing
[6:39] and it will start sometime I think next
[6:40] month. And we also also have our other
[6:44] exercises that we do.
[6:48] Um we continue to offer
[6:51] um our coffee and tea conversation with
[6:53] some speakers who cover a wide variety
[6:55] of topics and organizations. Today we
[6:58] had Crystal Christy Russell from um the
[7:03] yeah aging services out of Salt Lake and
[7:05] she's over dementia and she did a
[7:08] program called dementia live which I've
[7:10] done which is really great and it just
[7:12] shows you that that in dementia so many
[7:15] other things other than your brain are
[7:17] affected like your senses the way you
[7:20] feel the way you hear the way you see
[7:23] all that is is incorporated among
[7:25] dementia. It's a really great program.
[7:30] Okay, on to some more of the fun stuff.
[7:34] Um,
[7:36] Chris decided this year not only to on
[7:38] Veterans Day, not only to um
[7:43] my words just went blank. We didn't
[7:45] honor just only the vets because we do
[7:47] still have vets in, you know, that
[7:49] served in Vietnam. And I think all of
[7:52] our World War II are gone. Korea is
[7:54] pretty gone, too. But we did it for the
[7:57] kids or for the mothers, the fathers,
[7:59] the wives of people that had served. So
[8:01] that it really went over good. Um I
[8:04] think our Christmas party this year was
[8:06] probably one of the best I've ever had.
[8:09] Um Alan Valerie Brown did some Christmas
[8:12] country music for during happy hour. And
[8:15] after dinner, the Mar Music Fest sent a
[8:18] great group in and it was really great.
[8:20] It was a lovely evening.
[8:25] We started the year off with our chili
[8:27] cookoff and this year we had 40 guests
[8:31] and 14 different chilies. It was a great
[8:33] success.
[8:35] Um we and then we had our Valentine's
[8:37] Day tea and um it was such a gracious
[8:41] fun thing. Uh we are really getting into
[8:44] the culture tea and we hope to have one
[8:45] for the autofest.
[8:47] Um we celebrated one of our seniors who is
[8:55] also part of history in Moab. She ran
[8:58] the
[9:00] I want to call it the greasy spoon.
[9:03] >> Okay. She ran that. She turned 100 years
[9:06] old this year and Mayor Joette and um
[9:10] Commissioner Winfield was there to help
[9:11] us celebrate her.
[9:14] Um we have enjoyed a couple of
[9:16] progressive dinners that you go to
[9:17] somebody's house and then yeah kind of
[9:19] go to several people's houses and work
[9:21] around. Um in June we were late but we
[9:25] celebrated um Cinco de Mayo with a salsa
[9:28] showdown.
[9:30] Um to make it more fun Chris decided we
[9:33] could add um tablescaping. Tablescaping
[9:36] is where you kind of fancy up your table
[9:37] and you for the holiday and who you are
[9:40] for your personality. It was a great
[9:42] time.
[9:45] Oh, I could tell you who won, but now I
[9:47] can't think. I can't remember who won
[9:49] this also.
[9:51] Um, to finish off July, we did a happy
[9:54] 20 250th birthday for America um with an
[9:58] ice cream social that was very popular.
[10:01] And then we watched the movie The
[10:03] Patriot,
[10:05] which I'll be honest, I forgot was rated
[10:06] R. Anyway,
[10:08] people didn't all say them. [laughter]
[10:13] Just don't think if it had cuss words, I
[10:16] would have thought. [laughter]
[10:19] Um, the Moab Senior Games does an annual
[10:22] um cookout slash cornhole tournament
[10:26] every year. It's next Thursday at um
[10:29] 4:30 at the pavilion. Um, it's always really fun to do that going
[10:35] up. But I think one of the most
[10:38] popular or fun activities we had was
[10:42] this who am I? And we had the seniors
[10:44] bring in pictures when of their youth,
[10:46] not baby pictures, but you know, kind of
[10:49] between three and 12. And then we had
[10:51] them up for a month and then you chose
[10:53] or you picked who was who. Somebody got,
[10:56] you know, it was fun. I was bad at it,
[10:59] but it was fun.
[11:01] Um we also volunteered to have the
[11:05] democracy phone booth on what voices and
[11:09] boy voices and votes and each of the
[11:11] seniors you could um record how
[11:14] democracy affected you.
[11:17] Oh, I forgot to mention our senior tree
[11:19] was a great success this year. We seem
[11:20] to be getting more seniors with more
[11:22] needs and yet we seem to be getting more
[11:25] um people that want to help.
[11:30] And after years of card games, which we
[11:32] still play, but Mexican trained dominoes
[11:34] came to the center. They're very serious
[11:37] about it. Okay, so am I. But anyway, um
[11:40] but we also have a new group that plays
[11:42] fa once a week and we still have the
[11:44] card games.
[11:46] We were once again privileged to have um a great variety of ma musicians
[11:53] volunteer their time and talents to this
[11:56] center. The Mo Music Fest for the last
[11:58] couple of years has comped somewhere
[12:00] between 20 and 40 tickets to several of
[12:03] the concerts they have. We take a bus
[12:05] up, but it's always it's a wonderful
[12:07] thing that they do that. And we also are
[12:10] part of
[12:12] the modern music fest winter load
[12:15] movement and when Acropolis, the only
[12:17] Grammyinning Reed Quintet,
[12:20] entertained us for lunch. The Alzas came
[12:23] down from Roosevelt, Utah. know they
[12:26] came from Delta, Utah. And we had a
[12:28] fiddle group called the Ginger Snaps
[12:30] from Roosevelt. And then we also have
[12:33] our great ginger flar that plays two or
[12:34] three days a week.
[12:38] Going forward,
[12:41] um [clears throat] we hope to continue
[12:42] working closely with other agency on our
[12:45] adult aging needs with more senior
[12:48] housing, transportation, elder abuse,
[12:50] targeted scams, and of course, food and
[12:52] fun.
[12:54] I feel like we've reached a good place
[12:55] at the senior center. The building is
[12:57] getting utilized more with rentals,
[12:59] meetings, exercises, activities, crafts,
[13:02] painting classes, and movement classes.
[13:04] We are very supportive of a grief brief
[13:07] support group that meets twice a month
[13:09] and also a dementia care support group
[13:11] that meets twice a month as well as a
[13:14] coat guild sorority and um the UFO, Utah
[13:19] Federation of Pontology. um they started
[13:22] out with like four or five people. Now
[13:23] they have 40 down the dance floor. So
[13:25] we're really excited about lead for
[13:27] that. And going through all the pictures
[13:29] last year, it hit me that we really do
[13:31] have some fun activities at the senior
[13:33] center and I am so privileged to be a
[13:35] part of this and thank you. And if you
[13:37] have any questions,
[13:40] >> thank you.
[13:41] for all the work you do.
[13:43] >> Thank you.
[13:48] » I have one question. I have one
[13:50] question. How is the new bus, the van
[13:53] that we purchased, is that working out
[13:55] well for you?
[13:56] >> The van works. She really likes the van.
[13:58] Um, if it drives good, I think the
[14:01] seniors enjoy it. She's a little picky
[14:04] about who gets in the front seat because
[14:05] it's, you know, you need your
[14:08] less mobile people in the front, but um,
[14:11] it it they seem to enjoy it. It works
[14:13] really good. We've kind of been over
[14:15] full a couple of days where we had to
[14:17] make two turns and we're considering
[14:19] there are just some people that can't
[14:21] get into the bus that can get into the
[14:24] van because the bus has steep steps and
[14:26] the the van just has a raft. So
[14:29] >> nice.
[14:29] >> But if we get more people, people will
[14:30] of course move to the van or the bus.
[14:33] >> This work great. Thank you very much.
[14:35] >> Glass.
[14:38] » All right. So, we have postponed our
[14:42] other report which is Gran County
[14:44] Building Department. We've also
[14:46] postponed our public hearing.
[14:50] We should have postponed this meeting.
[14:53] It was too late. Um, anyways, next is
[14:56] our general business action items and
[14:59] discussions.
[15:01] So, commission member disclosures and
[15:03] future considerations. Mike
[15:04] >> Works for the sheriff's department.
[15:08] >> Okay. Anything else?
[15:10] >> Number three is the approval of the
[15:12] consent agenda items.
[15:14] >> Madam Chair,
[15:15] >> yes.
[15:16] >> Could I pull item E, please? That is the
[15:19] outdoor recreation initiative grant
[15:20] application for Mud Springs phase 2.1.
[15:23] >> Yeah, we'll pull that and we'll just
[15:24] take it at the end of the Well, we'll
[15:26] probably since Mattiey's here.
[15:29] Maddie and Cody, who should go first?
[15:32] We'll put it we'll probably we'll just
[15:33] move right after the consent agenda.
[15:35] >> Thank you. Um A is the approval of
[15:38] meetings minutes for July 7th, 21st,
[15:41] 27th, and August 4th and 18th. B is the
[15:44] ratification of payment of bills. The
[15:46] total bills were $1,674,89.81.
[15:51] Total payroll of $280,5769
[15:56] with a total bills and payroll of
[15:58] $1,954,666.50.
[16:05] C is a ratification of cooperative
[16:08] forest road agreement. It's an annual
[16:10] agreement. No funds required. D
[16:12] ratification of signature on state
[16:14] homeland security program award
[16:24] and operation of a motorized trail crew.
[16:28] And that was just a change. We've
[16:30] already signed that once, didn't we? So
[16:31] there's a change on that G. Amendment to
[16:33] USU contract each position backfield
[16:36] requests of the Crown County Sheriff's
[16:38] Office patrol deputy dispatcher and
[16:41] jailer corrections position and also the
[16:44] roads department operator and it said
[16:46] one in the agenda but it's actually a
[16:48] two type two so that was just a type
[16:54] » motion to approve consent as presented.
[16:58] >> All right, Mike. So all in favor
[17:01] and that passes six up so all right
[17:04] let's go ahead and move to item E
[17:08] which is the outdoor recreation
[17:10] initiative grant application for mud
[17:12] springs. Yeah Maddie come on. Okay
[17:19] so um just a quick overview. So the OI
[17:22] grant the minimum request that you can
[17:25] qualify for this grant is a million
[17:26] dollars. Um it's a fall application
[17:29] period and we have gotten a previous OI
[17:32] grant for the Mud Springs project. We're
[17:34] calling it phase 2A um which we
[17:37] originally had awarded for um a second
[17:40] phase of trail development out of Mud
[17:42] Springs, but then because of those
[17:43] issues uh with safety turning off the
[17:46] highway, those funds were um shifted
[17:49] over manage that issue. So, we want to
[17:52] reapply to ORI this year for now we're
[17:55] calling 2B um which is 11 miles of
[17:59] additional trails in the system as well
[18:01] as a trail head adjacent um skill
[18:04] development area.
[18:07] And so my request is there's no match
[18:10] that's required for this grant program.
[18:13] However, um it shows community buyin uh
[18:17] commitment and then also it makes it
[18:18] much more competitive. So, the grant
[18:20] administrator
[18:22] um he recommended if we're able 20%
[18:25] match and then I think probably the
[18:27] lowest we could go would be like a 10%
[18:29] match. I think anything less than that
[18:31] is going to make us look like we're not
[18:33] um committed to this project because
[18:34] we're asking for about 1.1 million. So
[18:37] 10% would be 60,000 and then I would say
[18:41] anywhere between 60,000 and 180,000
[18:43] would be make us competitive
[18:46] >> and that's because we have inind right
[18:48] >> and then yes we also have in kind. So,
[18:50] we're using um a percentage of my salary
[18:54] for like uh the project management and
[18:56] then also volunteer labor, which um
[19:00] forget what I did exactly for here, but
[19:02] last season we had $20,000
[19:05] value for um volunteer for part one of
[19:10] phase one construction. So, I feel
[19:12] pretty confident um
[19:15] with that.
[19:17] >> Um I make a motion. I I'd move to
[19:19] approve this application for grant
[19:20] funding from Mud Springs Trail System
[19:22] Phase 2B and commit a cash match for
[19:25] this project in the amount of $60,000 to
[19:28] be taken from TRT mitigation, which
[19:31] trails is an approved um uh approved uh
[19:37] funding uh prospect
[19:41] and I would speak also to that.
[19:44] >> Okay. [clears throat] And that's also
[19:45] 2027 budget.
[19:46] >> 2027 budget of course. Yes. Looking at
[19:48] that. So, I think the I think Mud
[19:50] Springs has already been a huge success.
[19:52] Um, it's it's bringing people in. I've
[19:55] been down there a couple times and
[19:56] seeing lots of people from other
[19:57] counties uh coming down mostly to to
[20:00] pre-ride the Nike course in light of the
[20:02] two Nika races that are coming up, but
[20:04] it's also getting a lot of traction
[20:05] online and likely mountain bike forums
[20:07] and stuff. People really like it. Also,
[20:09] I know locals really enjoy uh springs
[20:12] because it's it's different than a lot
[20:13] of the riding around here. Um, and uh,
[20:17] the reason I'm I'm doing 60,000 I I I
[20:20] think this is I mean it's a million-
[20:22] dollar grant, so it's going to bring a
[20:23] lot of money into the county. It's going
[20:24] to uh improve
[20:27] um the trail system. 11 more miles of
[20:30] kind of unique and uh featured downhill
[20:32] trails are going to be uh different.
[20:35] It's they're going to fit into the kind
[20:37] of the Moab quiver of of trails very
[20:40] nicely and present uh kind of a a
[20:43] different option for riders coming to
[20:45] town. Um I I would love to go more than
[20:50] that, but I think that's probably the
[20:52] most that I'd feel comfortable
[20:53] committing out of our out of next year's
[20:57] budget for this. And I appreciate the
[21:00] inind. So that's that's why I'm uh
[21:04] making the motion to to
[21:07] >> Did you second that bill? You put your
[21:09] hand up. You seconding it or
[21:11] >> um I'm glad to second it. I want to I
[21:13] want a discussion.
[21:14] >> Okay. [clears throat] So you're second
[21:15] and yeah, we need a second.
[21:16] >> That's totally my bad.
[21:21] » So Bill second and then I'll let him
[21:23] speak and then we'll go to Trish then to
[21:25] >> um couple of questions. Are we
[21:27] comfortable that this can come out of
[21:29] mitigation? And if so, why has it not
[21:32] gone before MTAB?
[21:36] » I don't know why it hasn't gone before
[21:37] MTA.
[21:37] >> Should we then, my question would be, do
[21:40] a substitute motion and postpone this?
[21:42] >> I believe the grant has to be approved
[21:44] by September 15th. So, it's it's timely.
[21:48] We don't have another commission meeting
[21:49] before then. Um,
[21:53] >> call a special meeting of the MTAP
[21:55] board. I mean,
[22:00] I I suppose we could I I
[22:02] >> the MAP does meet on the ETH. That's the
[22:04] next INCAB board meeting is the ETH.
[22:06] >> And then we'd have to Can we
[22:09] >> ratify it,
[22:11] >> right? Ratify it like like pass it um
[22:15] with the stipulation that it is
[22:19] uh that it goes before the MTA board. I
[22:22] guess
[22:22] >> I'd be more comfortable with it.
[22:26] you're going to just amend your motion.
[22:28] >> And do we feel comfortable that this
[22:30] isn't an authorized use out of MI
[22:33] mitigation funds?
[22:35] >> I'm comfortable with it. I think I think
[22:36] mitigation clearly states that this is one of the uses for for
[22:39] mitigation.
[22:44] » Yeah.
[22:46] Um
[22:50] can you tell me a little bit about what
[22:52] is San Juan's involvement in this
[22:55] system? So just so I have background and
[22:57] then if they're if they are going to be
[22:59] involved with this specific grant.
[23:01] >> Yeah. So they've been involved in the
[23:03] past. They gave $40,000 to jump start
[23:06] the project. So that paid for my time
[23:08] and Tyson sees time to do the initial
[23:11] like trail design and project
[23:12] development. Um, for this phase, I don't
[23:17] think we are asking them for a match. We
[23:20] do have a few other kind of balls in the
[23:22] air. Um, there's some interested
[23:25] parties, but I haven't don't have
[23:26] anything locked in yet. Um, so right
[23:29] now, um, you know, they've been very
[23:31] involved in the phase 2A. Uh, but for
[23:34] the phase 2B, I think, um, Grand County
[23:37] is kind of the point manager for the the
[23:40] trail design and construction. But do
[23:43] they know that you're you're applying
[23:44] for this to I believe Lisa has
[23:47] >> okay contact about a letter of support.
[23:53] » Did you want to clarify?
[23:54] >> Yeah, I'll just clarify here from the
[23:56] HP456 was so there's 3A um expenditures
[24:01] which is tourism, recreation, film
[24:03] production and convention that's
[24:05] establishing and promoting that. Um and
[24:07] then there are the um 3B expenditures
[24:11] and those are conventions, exhibit
[24:12] halls, visitor information centers,
[24:14] museums, sports, recreation facilities
[24:18] including practice fields, stadiums,
[24:20] arenas, and trails. So I think that this
[24:22] is where we were talking that it would
[24:23] fit in under um under a 3B,
[24:26] >> right?
[24:27] >> Um right there. and and and I don't know
[24:29] if we should actually start calling them
[24:31] 3B and 3A rather than mitigation because
[24:35] mitigation actually under the new
[24:37] legislation has a different meaning
[24:39] which is your emergency services and so
[24:41] I don't know just to maybe clarify that
[24:43] into the future to to say that you know
[24:46] a 3B expenditure it's just
[24:48] >> it's it's for these allowable
[24:50] expenditures as opposed to the
[24:52] mitigation which is listed in there as
[24:55] basically your emergency services
[24:58] Mike,
[24:59] >> I know it's at the end of the valley and
[25:00] it is in San Juan County. It's going to
[25:02] affect Moab. We all know that it's it's
[25:05] within our valley. [clears throat]
[25:08] Where do we need to
[25:10] uh path together where our recreation
[25:12] special service district can actually
[25:14] help in funding even if it's over the
[25:16] San Juan County line? Like what do we
[25:19] have to do? And it's kind of pointed at
[25:21] Stephen on this one. We're gonna have to
[25:23] figure that out because
[25:26] yes, there's an imaginary line out
[25:27] there, but that's in Moab. I mean,
[25:30] >> we do have
[25:30] >> that's that's a hard push.
[25:32] >> Um for for the department, for the GCAT
[25:35] department, we do have an interlocal
[25:36] agreement in place with San County that
[25:39] specifically calls out um like that
[25:41] section that northern section of San
[25:43] County with Mud Springs and South
[25:45] Mountains.
[25:46] >> Yeah. And I I'm just looking for more
[25:48] help out there. Yeah. Uh the recreation
[25:50] special service district actually is in
[25:51] the small funding surplus which is a
[25:53] great thing but this is could have been
[25:55] one of the asks we could have asked from that that special service district
[26:01] also but for being in San like
[26:05] >> 2,000 ft over the the border
[26:09] >> seeing if we could
[26:11] >> I'd have to pull their
[26:15] >> future problem to figure out but it's
[26:16] also another source I I want to figure
[26:18] that so we could actually uh get help
[26:20] there because it's in Moab. We know
[26:22] that.
[26:26] » Yeah. And I did reach out to
[26:28] Commissioner M in San County. They have
[26:30] a meeting today and I think it was too
[26:31] late for them this week, but if they are
[26:34] able to, we could add that to the grant.
[26:37] So,
[26:39] [laughter]
[26:40] >> I think we would add that additional on
[26:42] top of what we have. But
[26:44] >> um I'll add just a few comments. I'm
[26:47] expand on what Mattie said and then
[26:48] answer Trish a little bit, but the
[26:53] reason for the access into Mud Springs
[26:56] is not just the safety to fix that. It
[26:59] was about $3.5 million for UD do to put
[27:02] that turn in there if they were to do it
[27:04] at that point. And so we moved down and
[27:07] agreed that it would be better coming
[27:08] off of the Pack Creek cut off. And when
[27:11] they did that, they then paid for the
[27:14] majority of the road coming into Mud
[27:16] Springs. And then San Juan County and
[27:19] Gran County have mostly Cody, but some
[27:23] Todd I hope I'm getting his right ad
[27:27] also have put in a ton of inind effort
[27:30] for the count for both counties on not
[27:32] just the parking lots, but the road up
[27:34] around and I don't think Todd's even
[27:37] done yet. the road that goes up where
[27:38] they start the race and they go up
[27:40] around the corner and come back down.
[27:42] So,
[27:43] >> great.
[27:44] >> Yeah, I believe the last time I was out
[27:46] there that they had just started working
[27:48] on it. So, there's a lot that both
[27:50] counties are doing out there that's
[27:53] inind and I know that Cody's crews have
[27:56] spent a lot of time out there and last
[27:58] time I was out there, the parking lots
[27:59] are looking awesome.
[28:01] >> So, that that's a big portion the
[28:04] parking lots are of where that money
[28:06] went.
[28:07] was to be able to host all the people
[28:09] when we got them in here. So,
[28:11] >> sure.
[28:12] >> Yeah, absolutely. And I think that's definitely great work. I've been
[28:16] out there frequently and and it's it's
[28:18] been an actually just a awesome
[28:20] collaboration between all the entities
[28:22] BLM, U DOT, San Juan, Grant, everybody.
[28:26] >> Agreed.
[28:27] >> Right. Yeah. Just to clarify outside of
[28:29] it's not really point of order. Um so
[28:32] when we are talking about promotion if
[28:34] we speak about it as a 3A expense and we
[28:36] speak about the other the rest of the
[28:38] funding and a 3B expense. Is that what
[28:40] you're recommending Brian?
[28:41] >> Yeah clarify.
[28:43] >> Yeah just clarifying. I just we we use
[28:45] the term mitigation and then we also um
[28:48] use it as these allowable expenses and
[28:50] there is there is some different uh um
[28:53] there's a couple of different things
[28:55] inside that legislation that deals with
[28:56] the mitigation especially as we're
[28:58] looking for that outdoor recreation
[29:00] mitigation grant and how those funds can
[29:02] be used. So there's just there's just
[29:04] different language and I just thought it
[29:05] would be an opportunity to say that you
[29:07] know the 3A basically deals with all
[29:09] things promotion and then 3B is your
[29:12] allowable expenses and then mitigation
[29:15] is actually essential services
[29:17] >> but it's included in that same pot of
[29:19] money that 3B is.
[29:20] >> Yeah. So yeah. Oh crap.
[29:53] or not. The proper procedure, I think,
[29:54] is to bring it in front of the MTA
[29:56] board. I would uh vote for it either
[29:59] way. I would hope that they would
[30:01] approve of this. Um, so as far as making
[30:05] a motion goes, because this grant is
[30:08] super timely and uh, Matt, you have to
[30:10] get it in for the next commission
[30:11] meeting. I guess I would amend my amend
[30:15] my motion to
[30:18] um take the uh move to approve the
[30:21] application [clears throat] for grant
[30:23] funding for Mud Springs Trail System
[30:24] phase 2B and to commit a cash match for
[30:27] this project in the amount of $60,000 to
[30:29] come from uh section 3B of HB 456 TRT
[30:35] legislation. Um and
[30:39] uh to authorize the chair to sign the
[30:45] application
[30:46] after it has been reviewed by the MTAB
[30:51] board at their U September meeting. Does
[30:53] that work?
[30:55] >> Yeah.
[30:55] >> Works me on that again. Okay. Okay. Any
[30:59] more discussion? All in favor?
[31:02] All right. That passes six. Thank you.
[31:04] Thanks a lot.
[31:06] And we'll move on to number four. So
[31:09] Spanish Valley Drive Mill and Phil Bean
[31:13] to the county line which is the shoulder
[31:14] w project.
[31:26] » All right. Well, first off, thank you
[31:29] for your guys' service and having me
[31:31] sneak in here tonight on a short night
[31:34] hopefully.
[31:36] Um, so I know there wasn't a lot of
[31:39] information in the packet. I am still in
[31:42] the process of
[31:45] [clears throat]
[31:46] bids for this project. Um,
[31:48] transportation special service district
[31:50] approached me about a week and a half
[31:52] ago with some funding in their budget
[31:54] that they want to put down on this
[31:58] connectivity, for lack of a better word,
[32:00] shoulder widening project tying in
[32:02] basically the same project that we did
[32:03] from the four-way stop 2 just past the
[32:05] Beaman Bridge. This will connect onto
[32:08] there and then go out to the Grand Sanan
[32:10] County line with the same 4ft shoulders
[32:14] 32 foot wide
[32:16] lane. So, um I think it's a great way to
[32:19] do it. um
[32:22] transportation special service in our
[32:24] they call a special meeting and they
[32:26] have the funding to pretty much fund
[32:28] this. So my ask of this 300,000
[32:30] contingent on transportation special
[32:32] service isn't it doesn't really apply
[32:34] anymore. What I would like to do is just
[32:37] as far as the background the road and
[32:39] transportation special service district
[32:41] have been taking the initiatives to
[32:43] widen the shoulders on the main corridor
[32:45] of Spanish Valley Drive in Spanish. Um
[32:47] this initiative is to create a safe path
[32:49] between traffic and multi-use
[32:51] pedestrian, bicycle, horseback and other
[32:53] uses in grad and San Juan County. Um
[32:56] these improvements began in two in 2025
[32:58] with the four-way stop to be
[33:00] improvement. The project continues to
[33:02] promote connectivity and it that is the
[33:04] vision of the transportation or master
[33:06] plan. The scope of this project will
[33:08] also incorporate a better channel for
[33:10] storm drainage along the Spanish trail
[33:11] road protecting not only the roadway but
[33:14] the via power utility um where water has
[33:16] been undermining the utility pole and
[33:18] powerway. So, not only are we going to
[33:20] run out to the um county line, but we're
[33:23] also going to do the north side of
[33:25] Spanish Trail with a 4 foot wide
[33:27] shoulder, which will tie that whole road
[33:29] in. And then we are going to try to push
[33:31] potentially maybe to the golf course for
[33:34] um golf carts, not a golf ball lane, but
[33:38] it will be a lighter shoulder if the
[33:40] funding is allotted for this. Um, what
[33:43] the road departments ask out of my 35,
[33:47] which I called it out in a 2026 or 2020,
[33:50] yeah, 2027, is it's a little bit vague,
[33:53] but it does say overlay work working
[33:55] with transportation special service
[33:57] district for half a million dollars. It
[33:59] wasn't in our wheelhouse to do that with
[34:01] the road department this year. Um,
[34:03] transportation special services came
[34:04] through with the funding. And so what my
[34:07] ask is is $100,000 from the same 35
[34:12] capital improvement um fund for
[34:15] basically just the striking and final
[34:18] work. Anything that the paving crew and
[34:20] transportation special service district
[34:22] can't cover gives us a little bit of a
[34:24] contingency just to make sure that that
[34:26] entirety of the plan will be taken this
[34:29] year.
[34:31] >> Bill, did you
[34:32] >> Sure. So, I'll make the motion, but I
[34:34] want to just clarify. So 300,000 from
[34:37] the special service district and a h
[34:39] 100,000 from fund 35.
[34:41] >> So the special service district came up
[34:42] with 750,000.
[34:45] >> Okay. So how how much of it then?
[34:50] >> They're going to fund the whole project.
[34:51] >> Oh, they are. So we don't need any out
[34:53] here.
[34:54] >> The only thing I'm asking
[34:55] >> just make the motion.
[34:56] >> Yeah. The I am asking for 100,000 to be
[34:59] set aside as contingent because I do
[35:01] need to stripe it. Sure. I told them if
[35:03] they do the whole overlay and shoulder
[35:04] widening that I would stripe it and I'll
[35:06] go back in and do the finish work for
[35:08] driveways.
[35:09] >> Does our motion need to cover that?
[35:12] >> It's
[35:14] Well, I call that a half a million in my
[35:17] budget, but Gabe, do you have any I mean
[35:22] I I it's in the budget.
[35:23] >> I don't mind make I'll add it to the
[35:25] motion.
[35:25] >> Yeah, it doesn't hurt. I move to approve
[35:27] the addition of the Spanish Valley Drive
[35:29] mill and fill shoulder widening project
[35:31] from Bean Lane to Grand San Juan County
[35:34] line to the roads long range capital
[35:37] plan for 2026 as funds are available to
[35:41] complete the project ahead of schedule
[35:44] with 100,000 set aside for striping and
[35:50] correct out of um yeah's budget. Did you
[35:53] drive work?
[35:54] >> Mike second.
[35:55] >> Second and a comment.
[35:57] >> Thanks.
[35:57] >> Uh transportation special service
[35:59] district uh held a special meeting. Uh
[36:04] it was uh called for held and unanimous
[36:07] decision to transfer the money. Uh so we
[36:11] have the backing of the entire special
[36:13] service district.
[36:16] >> I have Oh, go ahead. I have a question.
[36:19] >> Yeah. No, this is great work. Thank you,
[36:20] Cody, for getting that done.
[36:21] >> Yeah. next to the transportation special
[36:23] service district too. It's their board
[36:24] and they I appreciate them spending the
[36:26] money on our payment.
[36:28] >> Please pass that that thanks along for
[36:29] me then. Um as well and then just to
[36:31] clarify so 135 is based off of roads,
[36:33] right? Those are roads funds.
[36:34] >> Correct. That's my road capital
[36:37] approved.
[36:38] >> Thank you so much. Appreciate that
[36:41] >> Yeah. Thanks for this too. I'm I'm
[36:43] stoked about it as well. Um the the
[36:45] shoulder widening part from the fourway
[36:48] down to Bean so far has been awesome for cyclists, pedestrians along that
[36:54] road. Um I ride that section frequently
[36:56] and it's made a huge difference and I
[36:58] expect it to make a great difference
[37:00] down to the county line, too.
[37:01] >> Yeah, it's it's a great multi-use. I
[37:02] appreciate. And then one question, how
[37:04] would this with the future and and we
[37:06] haven't talked about going south of Bean
[37:08] for the uh Spanish Valley multi-use
[37:10] pathway, but but how would this
[37:12] potentially affect that future pathway?
[37:16] >> So, I don't think it's going to do
[37:17] anything but be advantageous for that
[37:19] future buildout. Um we had a safe
[37:22] streets for all open house at grand last
[37:25] night and if you look at the way that
[37:27] pathway falls in um whether it's
[37:29] separated or whether it fits right
[37:31] against that I think it's I mean all
[37:33] that's going to do is just provide a
[37:35] >> a wider shoulder with the multi-use and
[37:38] then the ability to potentially kick
[37:39] that extra six or seven feet of path on
[37:42] there where it could be connected to
[37:43] that you know as an easier monetary way
[37:46] to bite it off
[37:47] >> right
[37:48] >> or you know with future planning and
[37:49] build out it still be that separated
[37:52] path that everyone's kind of the Yeah.
[37:54] the big dream.
[37:55] >> Absolutely. Perfect. Cody,
[37:56] [clears throat] thank you.
[37:57] >> Yeah. Mike,
[37:59] >> uh reiterate what Chalk said. I mean,
[38:02] great job. Four-way stop out to Bean.
[38:04] I'll go out of my way to travel down
[38:05] that road and I know a lot of other
[38:07] people do.
[38:08] >> Uh it's nice and it's going to be
[38:10] impeccable from that point out to the
[38:12] county line. Uh, I mean, as always, I
[38:15] want to reach out to my San Juan County
[38:17] uh counterparts and we will talk about
[38:19] further out towards Mud Springs, but it
[38:22] it's it's a joy to drive on as a car
[38:24] guy. Thank you.
[38:25] >> Yeah. Well, I appreciate the support
[38:27] from the connectivity because that's
[38:28] really what our transportation master
[38:30] plan calls out for future build. So,
[38:33] >> with some wider shoulders and we can
[38:35] build from there.
[38:36] >> Go ahead. I had a question and and a
[38:39] comment along some of Mike's lines, but
[38:41] um so does this now connect us all the
[38:44] way down to a Royo after this project is
[38:47] completed or where does where are we at
[38:50] in [clears throat] that little section
[38:51] where we don't have our path yet, right?
[38:53] >> Yeah. So, so just a little bit of
[38:55] clarification what I did when I first
[38:57] bit this off because I knew it was going
[38:59] to be a big ask. I mean, you'd be coming
[39:01] in here with a $2 million ask. um
[39:05] working with the transportation special
[39:07] service district and being able to share
[39:08] funding that the roads kind of had for
[39:10] some of this and transportation, we were
[39:12] able to bite off a two-mile chunk of it.
[39:15] Um what it did is we kind of did that
[39:17] right in the heart of the valley too to
[39:19] where we could go in any direction and
[39:20] be able to tie onto that build that we
[39:23] did.
[39:24] What this allows us to do now is add on
[39:26] to the beam and go to the county line
[39:28] which is a mile. We can bite it off.
[39:30] Transportation Special Service District
[39:32] had enough funds that they're going to
[39:33] be able to cover this. We'll come in and
[39:35] stripe it and clean it up. That'll
[39:36] connect clear from the county line to
[39:38] the four-way stop
[39:40] in this. We're also going to go from the
[39:42] Branding Iron Restaurant on the north
[39:44] side to for sure the roundabout on the
[39:45] north side, which widens that Spanish
[39:48] Trail corridor with those, you know,
[39:50] it's not going to be a full overlay, but
[39:51] it will be a wider shoulder on each
[39:52] side, which adds that night visibility,
[39:54] safety, the people walking, the
[39:56] multi-use bicycles, whatever it is on
[39:58] the shoulder. Um, next year with this
[40:01] TAP grant, it's it's a different
[40:03] section, but there's another 083 miles
[40:05] that goes on down to resource from the
[40:07] four-way stop.
[40:08] >> We were approved with a tap a $300,000
[40:10] TAP grant, and then the road department
[40:12] has funds aotted in the 2027 budget if
[40:14] it's approved for $450,000, which makes
[40:17] that $750,000
[40:19] shoulder widening and overlay
[40:23] a
[40:24] pretty big reality that's going to
[40:26] happen next year. So, by the end of
[40:28] 2027, if the multi-use path kicks in,
[40:31] there there's real potential in the next
[40:33] two years to have a connectivity for Mil
[40:35] Creek to the county line with a white
[40:37] shoulder potential bike path.
[40:40] >> I mean, it's it's uh it's coming
[40:41] together.
[40:42] >> It's coming together.
[40:43] >> Good. And then back to Mike's comments
[40:45] about commissioners in San Juan County,
[40:48] but really maybe some of the
[40:49] conversation could start with Todd at
[40:51] the road department and see what he has
[40:54] available to extend that on out. I know
[40:57] that maybe to the clinic or somewhere
[40:59] out there. There's a lot of homes that
[41:01] come off of what is it? Mount Peele and
[41:04] the next one out Coronado and stuff out
[41:06] there. It would be nice to get Kenton
[41:08] activity all the way to that clinic
[41:11] basically.
[41:12] >> Yeah. And I know they they've been doing
[41:13] some road improvement out there.
[41:16] >> It's it's nice to see the improvements
[41:19] happening on our pavement in the valley
[41:20] for sure. But
[41:21] >> I'm I'm pretty candid with TJ. Good. I
[41:25] will uh I'll I'll try to push him in the
[41:27] right direction. I know Commissioner
[41:28] Mccertie will too.
[41:30] >> Yeah.
[41:32] >> All right. Thank you. Thanks for all
[41:34] your hard work.
[41:34] >> No, thank you.
[41:35] >> And we just call for a vote here. Um all
[41:38] in favor
[41:40] 6. Thank you.
[41:42] Have a good night.
[41:44] >> Yeah, you guys, too.
[41:45] >> All right, moving on to number five,
[41:46] which is the Monument Replacement and
[41:48] Restoration Committee Grant Award. And
[41:51] this was a grant that came in. I signed
[41:54] it in June July and it was been awarded
[42:00] it and we just need to receive this
[42:02] grant for $24,836.80.
[42:06] Mike,
[42:08] >> uh, as soon as it pulls up here, I move
[42:10] to accept the the contract for monument
[42:13] replacement and restoration grant. So,
[42:17] >> any more discussion?
[42:19] I guess I just need Yeah, maybe just to
[42:22] understand a little bit more. So this is
[42:23] for the surveyor. So I would assume then this will
[42:28] just
[42:30] backfill his salary or can you guys give
[42:33] me a little bit more?
[42:35] >> I've had some discussions with
[42:38] uh our admin and attorney and surveyor
[42:41] and recorder. um you know if this was a
[42:46] grant that came to a department
[42:47] generally would just go in their in
[42:48] their budget right but this is different
[42:50] because it's an elected official and so
[42:54] this is outside what from what I
[42:56] understand is what this is something
[42:58] that's outside of his scope of work so I
[43:02] don't know how exactly we will handle
[43:05] this I think it's going to have more
[43:06] discussion as far as does this go into
[43:10] his budget I mean currently he just has
[43:12] a salary in budget and but no supplies
[43:17] and so he doesn't get gas money. So I
[43:21] don't I don't know how if it could
[43:23] possibly just go in his budget to pay
[43:25] for supplies and expenses.
[43:28] >> A couple a couple different ways to skin
[43:30] catap. Um so one option is if if any
[43:33] elected official is going to get an
[43:35] increase salary, we're going to have to
[43:36] go through the standard process uh
[43:38] public hearing notice in the newspaper
[43:42] etc. That's not what's proposed tonight.
[43:44] It's instead just accepting a grant. Um
[43:47] depending on we depending on how we look
[43:49] at the scope of work. If it's something
[43:50] that's beyond the surveyor's work, the
[43:52] commission could open and put it out for
[43:54] a bid. Uh create the opportunity for
[43:56] somebody to apply for that contract. If
[43:58] that's how we're looking at it, saying,
[43:59] "Hey, look, this isn't really within the
[44:01] scope of the surveyor." Well, then the
[44:02] obligation would fall to the county for
[44:04] the county to go out and contract and
[44:05] hire it. Um, it it was my intent when I
[44:08] talked to admin about this item that we
[44:10] come back and have additional follow-up
[44:12] conversation about how we want to
[44:13] structure this. If this is going to be
[44:16] something that the commission has an
[44:17] appetite to adjust the salary of the
[44:19] surveyor, that's a decision for the
[44:21] commission to make. Um, if it's going to
[44:23] be something that the commission is
[44:24] going to put out for a bid and we're
[44:25] saying it's outside the scope, that's a
[44:27] decision that the commission and admin
[44:28] would have to put out bid. If it falls
[44:30] within the scope of the surveyor and the
[44:33] commission is okay with him putting that
[44:35] out for a bid, that's another option.
[44:37] There a couple different options, couple
[44:38] different nuances. Okay. But we couldn't
[44:40] just increase the salary amount for any
[44:42] elected official. Like for example, the
[44:44] grant that I brought up from my office
[44:46] the other day, the 139, if if my office
[44:48] gets that, I don't get to pocket that.
[44:51] >> I assume it falls into my budget.
[44:53] >> But that and that raised a really good
[44:54] interesting question. When we get grants
[44:56] that come into the county, I don't know
[44:58] if we're going back and saying, "Hey,
[45:00] look, you have blessing to put it in
[45:01] this particular area. I think it just
[45:04] happens naturally when we do an amended
[45:05] budget at the end of the year." But
[45:07] that's one nuance that we have these
[45:09] grants that come in, if we accept them
[45:12] and receive them, how we go back through
[45:13] and and add it. And so for the surveyor
[45:16] for this one, I'm I think the
[45:17] understanding is we're going to accept
[45:18] this grant. We're going to have to have
[45:19] a follow-up conversation with the
[45:21] commission on how we deem going forward
[45:23] as appropriate. Right. Okay. Did you
[45:27] want to add anything to that, Gabe?
[45:29] Yeah. I mean, as long as Okay, great. As
[45:32] long as there's going to be a follow-up
[45:34] conversation because, you know, it gets
[45:35] into to me really muddy waters if we
[45:38] have
[45:38] >> whether it's elected or or employees
[45:40] starting to write grants and going,
[45:42] "Well, I'm just going to add this to my
[45:43] salary." That that's really that's a
[45:45] really
[45:45] >> and there's but I like the idea that it
[45:47] goes into his budget and if it's out of
[45:50] scope, maybe we put it out to bed or
[45:53] >> stock guards. We have disclosure
[45:55] requirements. There are things in my
[45:56] office. I can't hire my private practice
[45:58] to do any of my stuff. So, we we have
[46:00] some limitations on that. I think this
[46:02] is a good conversation to have. We've
[46:04] started having those conversations. I
[46:06] think the re one of the reasons why is
[46:07] this grant turnaround is pretty quick. I
[46:10] think we have to accept it like today.
[46:13] >> The other Go ahead, Chuck, and then I'll
[46:16] >> Yeah, just a as Stephen said, I think
[46:18] right now voting yes on this is simply
[46:20] accepting different that that's it. Is
[46:22] that correct, Stephen? That's that's how
[46:23] I read it. Again, I think there's
[46:25] multiple things that haven't been
[46:26] answered. Is it within the commission
[46:27] scope? Is it within the surveyor scope?
[46:29] I think we take a moment and look at
[46:30] that and follow.
[46:32] >> Sounds good. Okay. Thanks. Thank you.
[46:34] >> Yeah. When I spoke today, it's it needs
[46:36] to be turned back in tomorrow and then
[46:39] they whoever is going to be performing
[46:41] the work when you look at the grant and
[46:43] this was on our July 7th agenda. So, if
[46:45] you want to go back and look at the
[46:46] actual grant um so they have to we have
[46:51] to get it back. we accept it, then they
[46:53] need to go to a training September 9th,
[46:55] which is mandatory for anybody that's
[46:56] going to be executing this grant. So, he
[46:58] did say he would go to that September
[47:00] 9th regardless of it. Um, this is I know
[47:03] that they called around to some other
[47:06] counties that get this grant and kind of
[47:08] talk about how they did it in theirs.
[47:10] you know,
[47:12] every county is different and the setups
[47:14] are different, but it's um put these 15
[47:18] uh monument placements and they
[47:20] basically like if we let it fall through
[47:23] the cracks this year and not do it, we probably won't get it again and which
[47:28] is a good chunk of money. And these are
[47:30] some pretty important
[47:34] landmarks, I guess, you know, what we
[47:36] could say. And so I I think there's
[47:38] value in the conversation and moving
[47:40] through it quickly and that's why I have
[47:41] had quite a bit of discussion but I am
[47:44] too wonder. Okay.
[47:46] >> Okay. So um we had a motion to accept it
[47:50] in a second. Do we have any more more
[47:52] discussion?
[47:54] >> All in favor
[47:56] >> and that passes 6.
[47:58] >> Hey Mel, you got your meeting
[48:01] >> where it's the shortest meeting ever.
[48:02] No, not just that. We voted unanimously,
[48:05] right? When everything that's what you
[48:08] >> that one,
[48:09] >> huh?
[48:10] >> We unanimous that one.
[48:14] >> So, we have um
[48:17] a few more minutes. We could start with
[48:19] um public. I bet we can move into it.
[48:22] Depends on how many people that want to
[48:23] speak in the audience. Do we have any
[48:26] public comment tonight?
[48:30] No, we don't. Okay. Well, then we're
[48:31] going to keep on I'll at 5:' I'll I'll
[48:33] come back to that. We're just going to
[48:34] move along. And because we have so much
[48:36] free time tonight, I was going to open
[48:38] it up to the commissioners if anyone
[48:41] would like to share anything from their
[48:43] reports.
[48:46] » Go ahead, Mike.
[48:47] >> Uh as always, uh general cast invite to
[48:51] everyone around me
[48:54] annual convention is the 9th and 10th
[48:57] September. And um for those of those of
[49:01] the public that don't know when I say
[49:02] UAC, UAE is the Utah Association of
[49:06] Counties and I I wrote something down
[49:08] here. It's the uh annual uh convention
[49:12] is where statewide policy agendas and
[49:14] legislative priorities are set. I have
[49:18] loved and learned greatly from UAC and
[49:20] being part of several of the UAX policy
[49:22] steering committees. there are lower
[49:24] committees that actually decide
[49:27] compensation committee. We were just on
[49:29] one but uh I have loved being part of
[49:33] them uh and learning from them. Uh with
[49:36] that same tip of the hat I again ask
[49:39] everyone in attendance uh along with
[49:41] myself along with uh Mark Quinn Dana I
[49:45] have asked to travel to the UA
[49:47] convention. Uh I am not fully
[49:50] comfortable with having 28 other
[49:52] counties uh recommend what Grant County
[49:55] should do. Uh that's why we're there.
[49:58] That's why we're a part and we're a
[49:59] voting member is to actually put Grant
[50:01] County State in into UAC. It being one
[50:05] of the largest uh lobbying bodies uh
[50:07] within the Utah legislature. Um in that
[50:11] Grant County is not an island. Uh we're
[50:13] not just sitting here in the dark. uh
[50:15] state level policy changes uh directly
[50:18] hit our budgets. They directly hit our
[50:20] decisions down here and we need to
[50:22] remain part of the conversation as
[50:24] always and I welcome and ask my fellow
[50:29] commissioners to please attend with me.
[50:31] Uh I know everyone's busy but this this
[50:35] is very important and the public needs
[50:38] to know it's very important that we
[50:39] actually do make attendance.
[50:42] >> Okay. Thanks, Jock.
[50:45] >> Welcome. Uh, I attended the, uh, LEAPC
[50:47] meeting, which is the emergency
[50:48] management um, meeting, and I just want
[50:51] to give a huge shout out to to Kate
[50:53] Finley, who's our county admin, uh,
[50:54] emergency manager. She's been a just
[50:56] done a great job with um, forwarding
[50:59] every everything kind of emergency
[51:01] management in Grand County. When I first
[51:03] got elected, we didn't even have an
[51:04] emergency manager. We had those uh, we
[51:07] had that crazy fire my first year on and
[51:09] the floods the second year. to agree to
[51:11] that position in the sheriff's office,
[51:12] but Kate's just taken it above beyond.
[51:15] Um, at that meeting, the super well
[51:17] attended with with uh folks from the
[51:20] city, the county, the fire department,
[51:22] EMS, lots of other agencies, national
[51:24] parks, etc. Um and this this last one
[51:29] she arranged for a couple of really good
[51:30] presentations from county actually Cody
[51:34] and uh and the city too uh presenting um
[51:38] flood mitigation efforts in the
[51:41] all-American wash as well as the efforts
[51:43] to shore up uh Mil Creek through town.
[51:46] Those are those are great. There's some
[51:48] good discussion afterwards on both of
[51:49] those. So that was that was cool. And
[51:52] then the other one, Brian also attended
[51:54] the Arches bike access meeting. I think
[51:56] we're it's a really cool committee of a
[51:58] bunch of different people who are just
[51:59] interested in in furthering bike access
[52:01] into Arches. Uh finally talking about
[52:04] next steps, kind of low hanging fruit,
[52:06] what we're going to be working on. Um uh
[52:09] kind of a map of the plan and then
[52:11] working on things such as uh signage and
[52:14] uh shoulder and paint work, just just
[52:17] kind of easy stuff can improve bike
[52:20] access experience into arches. So both
[52:23] but those meetings were were cool and uh
[52:26] worth mentioning
[52:29] all the team and the paper too. Good. So
[52:31] thanks. Yeah
[52:33] la la la la la la la la la la la la la launch today. That's
[52:34] my update. I've been working on little bugs that we've been working out
[52:38] with that. So about to go out to the
[52:40] visitor center and take some pictures of
[52:42] it. But that's exciting for the county.
[52:45] And next week on the ETH will be the the
[52:48] grand opening
[52:51] kickoff kickoff.
[52:56] » All right. Any other comments? We have a
[52:58] report from our town attorney.
[53:00] >> I can just give a brief update. Um, we
[53:03] had a follow-up meeting with Chair
[53:04] Mccandless and the sheriff uh earlier
[53:07] this afternoon regarding the victim
[53:10] position and identifying good terms and
[53:12] good things that we can do moving
[53:13] forward for her uh shifting in field
[53:15] work. So, that's exciting. Later this
[53:17] month, I'll be at South Padre Island in
[53:21] Texas for the uh the Institute on a
[53:25] Coordinated Community Response to
[53:27] domestic violence. Um they fund that
[53:30] training. They fund the flight, RDM and
[53:33] hotel. That's a phenomenal uh training
[53:35] that they do. They were the com the
[53:37] entity that would come into the
[53:38] community and do trainings on
[53:39] strangulation. Uh there are additional
[53:43] good items that we're doing from
[53:44] followup from that and as well as the
[53:46] fall prosecutor training conference that
[53:48] I'll be attending uh later this month.
[53:52] Otherwise, we've got some jury trials
[53:54] coming up. Got one next week. And
[53:56] otherwise, all things are continuing as
[53:58] normal. That's good. Good wind surfing
[54:00] out on South Padre Island. Looks like a
[54:02] It's a fun place.
[54:05] >> Let's see doing that in a suit.
[54:10] » Mark, give me a wet suit. Are you
[54:13] >> just working on filling some key
[54:15] positions with the county? Um, so we're
[54:19] moving in with that and hopefully we'll
[54:22] have some replacements soon.
[54:26] >> Okay,
[54:26] >> give me that. All right, we got some.
[54:29] All right, come on up. We got to kill
[54:30] them. We got seven minutes.
[54:34] It's only five. Um, huge shout out to
[54:36] our office of tourism team and make and
[54:38] the people over there for getting the uh
[54:40] award at the ESCO for the number one new
[54:42] campaign. That was super cool, super
[54:44] exciting for them. Grateful for all the
[54:46] hard work that's gone into that. It's
[54:47] been
[54:49] took us what four months to select a
[54:51] marketing team and Nick to get on board
[54:54] and it's it's been a phenomenal amount
[54:56] of work. So I want huge congratulations
[54:57] to them. And then on a second note, we
[54:59] did have some pipe delivered for the
[55:01] Jackson Street project. So that is
[55:03] >> that moving and going that'll be in the
[55:05] ground um for the future consideration.
[55:07] We should at some point as permission
[55:09] discuss
[55:10] the sidewalk.
[55:13] >> Yes. So
[55:16] >> yes and we could have that. We are
[55:18] hopefully going to have another meeting
[55:20] with city. I know that Stout Quinn
[55:22] actually did for the safe streets for
[55:24] all. think come and present to both of
[55:25] us at the same time would be great. And
[55:27] so I know we're going to do a fall joint
[55:29] meeting with the city. So that would be
[55:31] a good time. And hopefully by then we
[55:32] might have discussion on this. I don't
[55:34] since that's what came up at our first
[55:36] joint meeting.
[55:38] >> Yeah. I think that I don't know. I had
[55:41] lunch with Kimley Horn yesterday and
[55:43] they suggested that that would be an
[55:44] effective way to present it was to have
[55:46] you know both the city and the county at
[55:47] the same meeting which is great. I don't
[55:50] know which day we want to meet as a
[55:52] food. and I kind of said I kind of
[55:55] pushed for our county commission date.
[55:56] But
[55:56] >> well, that is when the next one will be
[55:58] because you went to the city. So now
[55:59] county, but I I have to go to the mayor.
[56:02] >> Yeah. So I think they were thinking the
[56:03] Kimley Horn people were thinking one of
[56:05] those uh two meetings in October would
[56:07] be great.
[56:09] >> Okay.
[56:14] » Go ahead, Brian.
[56:15] >> Yeah. Yeah. just second what uh Quinn
[56:17] had said that um you know that campaign
[56:20] um that that Madden has put together was fantastic and to be involved with
[56:24] that and to see all the work that that
[56:26] team has done to try to lift up tourism
[56:29] here was it was amazing. Uh Mick sent us
[56:31] a little video of uh um when the award
[56:33] was presented there was about a thousand
[56:35] people in the audience just to give you
[56:37] an idea of the number of people that had
[56:39] applied for this award right there. and
[56:41] you know to have that campaign selected
[56:43] as the number one campaign was it was
[56:46] awesome. So they've done a lot of work
[56:47] and really a great big shout out to
[56:49] those guys. Um other little things is on
[56:52] the 24th we attend uh uh myself and
[56:55] commissioner Winfield attended the
[56:56] planned parentship
[56:58] meeting um which is the uh uh was the
[57:01] launching of the baby and you and then
[57:03] also some uh uh early work on our
[57:06] economic mobility plan um which will be
[57:08] drafting a charter and then architecting
[57:11] the work plan um that will kind of pair
[57:13] along with the reach bill that came out
[57:15] which was the SB 165. So, a lot of great
[57:19] work is starting there. I think that
[57:20] we're going to see see some neat things
[57:22] coming from that. Um, I also attended
[57:27] um a couple of uh policy steering
[57:29] committees that Mike mentioned. Um, one
[57:32] that I would bring out as well is the uh
[57:34] community development right now. There
[57:36] is some legislation coming in on land
[57:38] use code updates. Um, and on that right
[57:41] there, uh, one of the big ones that
[57:44] everyone is kind of interested in right
[57:45] now is the, uh, definitions on data
[57:48] centers. So, right now, what everyone is
[57:50] looking at is is the state is going to
[57:52] basically bind data centers. And when
[57:55] we're updating our land use code,
[57:57] whether you're trying to bring data
[57:59] centers in or you're trying to keep data
[58:01] centers out, the definitions of what
[58:04] that is would be probably the most
[58:06] foundational piece as we're moving
[58:07] forward in that land use code. So, you
[58:10] know, just working for with the uh uh
[58:12] UAC to try to get the legislators to
[58:14] make sure they're putting that those
[58:16] definitions out so that communities can
[58:18] go ahead and and and actually uh update
[58:20] their land use codes. Um that was a
[58:22] pretty interesting little meeting. And
[58:24] then we had the SERA board meeting on
[58:26] the 27th, which was really neat. Um and
[58:31] then the last two days I've been up at
[58:32] the Southeastern Energy Summit in SERA
[58:35] and so that was great to go see that. Um
[58:38] there's a ton of great work that they're
[58:39] doing out there in Carbon County right
[58:41] now. Um we went and visited today the uh
[58:44] San Raphael Energy Lab and there's just
[58:47] there's so many solutions and that
[58:49] they're trying to come up with and it's
[58:50] great to see all the work that's going
[58:52] into that into that little center over
[58:54] there whether it's Valor Atomics or the
[58:57] Energy Lab and um the way that they're
[58:59] working with uh desalinization and just
[59:03] ways that we could actually possibly use
[59:05] nuclear into the future. So rather than
[59:08] just, you know, producing the energy,
[59:10] they're also doing all the research that
[59:11] goes behind it. So it was really neat to
[59:14] go check that out and then also to go
[59:16] visit the uh um the uh uh airport out
[59:20] there and the USU's um aviation school
[59:23] that they have. There's a lot of
[59:25] economic development that's been done
[59:26] out there and it's it's really neat to
[59:28] see all the stuff that they've done and
[59:30] all the stuff that they have coming up
[59:32] as well. and quite a few interesting
[59:34] things as far as air taxis and all kinds
[59:37] of really neat things that are that are
[59:38] coming out here into this uh rural Utah.
[59:41] And you know, it's that that was really
[59:43] kind of like my feeling of that whole
[59:45] little sort of board meeting, which is,
[59:47] you know, just we all forget that we're
[59:49] just southeastern Utah, right? And if we
[59:51] don't look after each other, I mean,
[59:52] nobody else will. So, it's great to see
[59:54] all the partners and all the communities
[59:56] that are around and see the support that
[59:58] they're all giving each other. Even
[59:59] though that we're different in the ways
[1:00:01] that we our communities are and that the
[1:00:03] uh um you know how we present, it is
[1:00:05] great to see all that support.
[1:00:08] >> I have a uh one thing to add, Brian. Um
[1:00:10] will you be we as far as the OI grant
[1:00:13] mudsprings thing, will you be bringing
[1:00:15] that to the um MTAP board as the
[1:00:18] leazison?
[1:00:18] >> I'll make sure that Lindell has that I
[1:00:20] think on the 8th when that board meeting
[1:00:22] is. I think that that's the uh opening
[1:00:24] on the shuttle. So, I'll probably be out
[1:00:26] riding on the shuttle that day. I'll
[1:00:27] probably missing that meeting, but I
[1:00:28] will make sure that it gets put on the
[1:00:31] United Way Olympics.
[1:00:34] >> Okay, that brings us to 5:00. So, we
[1:00:36] will go with our citizens to be heard,
[1:00:38] public to be heard. You have anyone in
[1:00:40] the audience who'd like to come and
[1:00:42] speak?
[1:00:44] Alison Matthysse. I'm a resident of
[1:00:58] Moab. [clears throat] I am here to
[1:01:00] exercise my First Amendment rights for
[1:01:02] free speech and to petition the
[1:01:04] government for the repressive
[1:01:06] grievances. I am also here because I am
[1:01:09] angry. I'm angry that this commission,
[1:01:12] specifically Chair McCannis, continues
[1:01:15] to either suppress people's first
[1:01:18] amendment rights or try to. That is
[1:01:20] frankly wrong.
[1:01:23] Whether it happens to me, as it happened
[1:01:25] in February, or it happened last week to
[1:01:28] that other gentleman, it's still wrong.
[1:01:32] Trying to suppress what something says
[1:01:34] is called viewpoint discrimination, and
[1:01:37] that is unconstitutional.
[1:01:40] It needs to stop. I will be emailing you
[1:01:44] guys this information sheet that is from
[1:01:47] the foundation for individual rights and
[1:01:49] expression. It's entitled know your
[1:01:52] rights public comment periods. And it
[1:01:55] says that's because in the United
[1:01:56] States, quote, "Debate on public issues
[1:01:58] should be uninhibited, robust, and wide
[1:02:00] open." End quote. Even when it includes
[1:02:03] quote vehement, costic, and sometimes
[1:02:06] unpleasantly sharp attacks on government
[1:02:08] and public officials. This is from New
[1:02:10] York Times Company versus Sullivan 1964.
[1:02:15] It needs to stop. If a commissioner or
[1:02:18] the commission as a whole is doing
[1:02:20] something that I find problematic, I get
[1:02:23] to say that whether or not you like it,
[1:02:26] that is my first amendment right. And if
[1:02:28] it's an individual commissioner, such as
[1:02:30] the way uh uh nearly a month ago, Mr.
[1:02:33] Winfield violated the commission's rules
[1:02:37] in attacking other commissioners and
[1:02:39] then did not adhere to the Robert's rule
[1:02:42] of rules of whatever it's called and
[1:02:45] acknowledging a point of order. I get to
[1:02:47] say that and I also get to say that I'm
[1:02:50] upset that two weeks ago Mccandas, Miss
[1:02:52] McCandless did what I considered to be a
[1:02:56] unfair both siding about that event. She
[1:02:59] said in the time period before I was
[1:03:01] here last week, but personal attacks,
[1:03:04] interruptions, walkouts, and hostility
[1:03:06] undermine public trust and distract us
[1:03:08] from the work constituents elected us to
[1:03:10] do. the hostility
[1:03:13] was coming and personal attacks was
[1:03:15] coming from Mr. Winfield. What choice
[1:03:17] did the other commissioners have to but
[1:03:20] to walk out? I honestly think that's the
[1:03:22] best response that they could have done
[1:03:24] because commission's rules were being
[1:03:26] violated. I get to say things that I
[1:03:28] think that the shuttle policy is a
[1:03:30] really bad policy. And I also get to say
[1:03:33] that I think it's a waste of tax dollars
[1:03:35] and I'm upset that four commissioners
[1:03:38] specifically Mr. Martinez, Mr. McCardy,
[1:03:40] Mr. Winfield and Miss McCandless has
[1:03:42] ignored a mass amount of public uh
[1:03:45] comment, ignored a vast amount of
[1:03:47] expertise on the topic and ran that
[1:03:49] ahead. Anyway, I think it's even more
[1:03:51] poorly implemented. I also get to say
[1:03:54] things that it's well known in the
[1:03:56] public that Brian Martinez got fired
[1:03:58] from his private sector job.
[1:04:00] >> All right, your time is up. Thank you.
[1:04:02] Have a good evening.
[1:04:03] >> Also, real quickly,
[1:04:05] >> no, ma'am. Your time is up.
[1:04:07] >> Ma'am, your time is up.
[1:04:09] >> Wind of order. Point of order. Your time
[1:04:10] is up, ma'am. Thank you.
[1:04:12] >> Thank you.
[1:04:14] >> Not the chair. Brian,
[1:04:16] >> I call point of order.
[1:04:19] >> And there's
[1:04:20] >> Okay, that's enough. Um, did you want to
[1:04:23] speak since you just came in?
[1:04:25] >> Well, again, I don't want to, but I was
[1:04:27] planning to.
[1:04:27] >> Okay. Well,
[1:04:28] >> is it my turn?
[1:04:29] >> Yes.
[1:04:30] I think we're Yeah, unless somebody else
[1:04:32] walks in the door, you're going to be
[1:04:34] >> What's up?
[1:04:34] >> I said unless somebody else walks in the
[1:04:36] door, we're going to join the meeting.
[1:04:38] So
[1:04:39] >> I think I can under three minutes. I
[1:04:41] wish I could have just yield some of my
[1:04:42] time. Maybe I could have
[1:04:44] >> yield time. Sorry. It's in our policies
[1:04:45] and procedures.
[1:04:47] >> Okay. Um looking at the cost of Arches
[1:04:51] Shuttle numbers. Um on an annual basis,
[1:04:55] taxpayers are spending $8,000 per day.
[1:04:58] However, it's only supposed to operate
[1:04:59] six months of the year. $16,000 a day.
[1:05:04] Um
[1:05:05] what else I was going to say? And I was
[1:05:07] looking over some recent travel budgets
[1:05:10] and two members of the commission stood
[1:05:13] out. I'm making eye contact with them
[1:05:17] for exceeding their travel budgets by
[1:05:19] substantial margins. And it's not even
[1:05:23] the end of the year. It's still 2026 for
[1:05:26] another 5 months or four months. Did I
[1:05:29] do the math right? Four months. Anyway,
[1:05:31] thank you very much. I did it in
[1:05:34] 47. You have 40 seconds.
[1:05:37] >> Thank you. Okay. Anyone else in the
[1:05:39] audience like to speak?
[1:05:43] » All right. Well, with that, we will
[1:05:45] adjourn this meeting at 5:05 p.m.
[1:05:49] >> Thank you. And we have a good night.
[1:05:54] I don't know like almost were you
[1:05:57] if I knew it was anything.