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exactly the same as these, right?

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n't think it's a live performance right now,

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but I understand. got it

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you know what the page number for the workshop is?

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Um, I think it's number 30. Is the

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number displayed now

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. Regarding

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agenda item number 30, I think it's number 30

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. got it

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think number 29 was the other day. got it

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last one is number 30, so is Mr.

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Colmar there

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no. no. It might have

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zoomed in

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. No, I haven't. got it

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. Are you coming tonight

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? He is in Colorado. Let's

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can zoom in, right? Are you

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ready? I don't understand

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he was definitely zooming in

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. got it

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Now, I would like to call out the next town council

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workshop number

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Please have the secretary make a note that all members of Congress except for Congressman Colmer are present.

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Senator Colmer is absent but

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may join via Zoom soon. Agenda item 1:

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Gender review. We need to find today's

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agenda.

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Please ask more questions verbally

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. Do you have any topics for this meeting

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yes. got it. It's still there

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. got it

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believe you have seen the agenda for the planning committee meeting. Both of these sections were

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referred to the public hearing at the same time

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Yeah. So, will it remain open

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even after the planning committee meeting is over

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receive the planning committee's recommendations

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, you can

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close it and do whatever you want

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They want to hear

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comments from the general public before expressing their own opinions

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Yeah. Please put that item from the planning committee on

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hold. Please send me

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that letter regarding working from home

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n't think the planning committee has sent it back yet

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. That will remain on hold

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They haven't held a meeting there since the last time

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. that's right

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. Therefore, it will remain on

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hold.

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And there is still a tax cap

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Now, we'll proceed from back to front

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. Well, there is still a tax cap

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probably postpone it until one more meeting,

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but we're waiting to see what happens

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think the tax cap will exceed $1, you need to pass it

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that is passed, you

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won't have to exceed the tax limit

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important to be prepared for the possibility that you might.

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say that you wanted it done tonight or by November 20th?

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. I think it's either this meeting or the next one

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, couldn't we do that when approving the budget

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last year.

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other municipalities I visited last November

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implemented their measures in July.

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prepare in advance if necessary to avoid any controversy

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handle it however you wish

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. Carson Power, I

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understand, it's a collection of pearls

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. Are all the members of the zoning review

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committee, who were selected, really

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suitable? It's about the town council

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yes. Therefore, we will

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elevate the replacement to a position where they have voting rights. I would

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also like to add that we should approve the ads from the two alternatives

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agree with that. It's standard practice for

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us to bring in replacements to fill vacancies, so that's fine for the

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two replacements

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Can we skip the third one

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proposed pricing for the best system. We are still

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considering it. Ah, we're still considering it

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. They say they will be posting an advertisement to recruit a replacement committee member for the ZBA

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part of the agenda. It's on the agenda

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That advertising section promotes someone

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creates an appointment. Therefore,

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appointments will be made based on the vacancies. This

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is an advertisement. I'll take a look

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. I knew that was the case

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we are making dreams come true

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. They're doing a

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wonderful dance to the latest trends

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no. No,

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but according to Bridget,

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the land lease agreement may

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need to be put on hold

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probably need to be put on hold

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That's just

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yeah. perhaps. got it

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go back now. I

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apologize for getting the order reversed

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, but regarding the

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repair of that culvert, as we

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discussed at the last meeting, when I spoke

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with Mr. Sabita, he

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inquired with the company doing the work and found out that it's a

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company that handles both the work and the engineering, and that the engineering estimate we

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higher than the cost of their entire project

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Sabita was trying to get a formal quote

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What are you going to do? I don't know whether to put it on hold or what to do

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wait and see what other people suggest

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rejected last time. What do you mean by changing the date and bringing it back

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to the agenda

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he just change his words slightly

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He simply erased the date and

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wrote a new one. got it

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he'll get away with it that way

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. Because even then, it still

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falls below the procurement threshold

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think that would be cheaper than the entire design work required for the entire project.

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. It works precisely because it's much

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cheaper than the procurement threshold

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. If you want to put it up for tender or follow procurement policies

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, you'll end up

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in the $6,500 range, but

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yeah. We simply

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put it on the agenda, rejected it, and

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then put it back on the agenda

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If there's a possibility of getting the job done more cheaply and completely than the design work, I'd like to pause until I get something written about it

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If other companies can do the design and construction for $6,500, I don't understand at all why town officials can't do it for just the cost of materials

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this question today.

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If someone can do it that cheaply, then it's obviously impossible to

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explain why it doesn't require much specialized knowledge

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spoke to Bob, and his

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license doesn't cover this structural issue

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he cannot sign this.

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different from supporting a structure

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absolutely requires the signature of a PE (Primary Engineer) with experience in structural engineering.

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company that does it statewide as if they have a system in place

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these pinhole breaks we saw in the photos are a

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certain that this isn't the first time they've seen it

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worth seeing what they offer

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not that urgent. So, let's see if we

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can save money by taking our time

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I agree with that opinion. Understood. I

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have a few more, but is this the

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end? sorry. It's still on the

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agenda. I

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printed them out so everyone could have a hard copy.

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Well, this is just my opinion. The

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tweet I created suggested considering the

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inclusion of an architectural review committee

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Complete the complete set of agenda materials before submitting them to the planning committee

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, and begin the committee's new

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timeline. That's the other

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tweet. Instead of people thinking of this

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entire 30-day process as a timeline, we tried to bring

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everything together in one place

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included the best possible legislation in the ongoing pre-application meeting

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one of the things that came up in a recent committee meeting about zoning re-zoning, zoning reform, or whatever you call it, was to

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hold pre-application meetings to find out what people are facing and what zoning is

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. Typically, this should be done with the

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supervisor, the engineering code

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enforcer, and, if necessary

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other relevant individuals

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chaired the planning committee, and

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if other town committees were needed

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, I did so.

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I attended several times.

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So, I've included it here to make it part of this process

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, but

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one thing that came up regarding zoning is that, in the best-case

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scenario, there will be a fee

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.

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$200, please do not quote it

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. Therefore, in some cases,

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there is an argument that if someone is just thinking about the project, it might keep attracting this many people, and it may be necessary to consider applying a fee

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.

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Yeah.

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In other words, if someone isn't completely serious

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, the staff won't get

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involved. Therefore,

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I included there the best-case rule that an application fee applies

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,

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and the rule that the possible

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schedule may reflect the fee

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. got it

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. I

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think they have some regular customers who have great ideas and don't want to stop them, but I've come back to

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that room several times before leaving to cover these three or four things within my time

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.

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That's because they were trying to fit it within the frame

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. Therefore, I don't want to disappoint you

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.

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Because I think that once they

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leave that arena and

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go to a bigger arena, the time will become

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really difficult

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. That doesn't mean it's wrong

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.

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Well, I do

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n't

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think I want to prevent people from doing that. Because I think that by doing so

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, I can leave the room feeling at least 75%

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ready

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.

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Then, everyone looks at the remaining boards and

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places an additional ground top. It would

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take an enormous amount of time, so I don't want to

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discourage people from doing it

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. Going back and forth, going back and forth

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. I

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agree with that. In particular,

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this matter

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concerns one specific project

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. The topics that came up in the conversation were

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this week's project, and this week's

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project. And I'm not saying that we

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need to address that

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. I think that's a minority opinion

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. I'm simply pointing out that

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I wrote there that the best law is mandatory fees

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.

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Yeah. got it. In

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my opinion, the

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best law is a mandatory fee that requires an application

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.

342
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Prior application is required. that's right

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. The pre-application will be

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submitted for the entire group.

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no.

346
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that's not correct

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.

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That requires prior application.

349
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Apparently, the employees who are on paid leave are... well,

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yes.

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In other words, we want to avoid wasting time on things that volunteers cannot accomplish

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. At

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the very least, as you said

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,

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those who are paid to be here see it as

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pointless to waste other committee time on a project that hasn't been formally submitted to the county until they've received feedback at a ready stage, that is, until it reaches that stage.

357
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Therefore, I think the best pre-application process will cost

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$200 in fees

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. Don't you have any?

360
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Or will there be a fee

361
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? I phrased it

362
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this

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way because I thought there would be a fee involved.

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The fees for the relevant pre-application meeting will

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be charged according to the fee schedule adopted by the town. Yes

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, it can be deleted.

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Well, I was just trying to

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make sure that it covered everything that will be needed in the future

369
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. However, that includes the town supervisor

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of building standards enforcement engineering

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,

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town council members if necessary, the

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chair or nominee of the planning committee, the applicant,

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or other town

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officials or consultants assisting the town

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.

377
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Yeah.

378
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That's for the pre-application meeting

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, the same one we attended just a month ago

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. It wasn't Best Law

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, but I participated in that as well

382
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.

383
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Yeah.

384
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And that was exactly it

385
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. Well, this person is

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simply pointing out the changes made from the original draft.

387
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Yeah. Hey, are you watching at that time

388
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?

389
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I don't remember, but I think it was on the

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agenda from Ron to FC

391
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.

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That would involve setting an application fee

393
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. that's right

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.

395
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So, I don't know if that's the case

396
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. Well, I might have

397
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misunderstood that part

398
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.

399
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That's just, oh, that,

400
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yes, that's not it.

401
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But I agree with you.

402
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Well, we don't want to prevent people from coming and figuring

403
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things out in advance

404
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.

405
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Yeah.

406
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Well, and I don't think that was negative

407
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.

408
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At least once a week.

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But at

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least. And, well, it happened once a

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week in some of my areas

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. I

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said, "This probably won't work," and then I asked, "Will this, this work

414
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?"

415
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And when that

416
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becomes a smell test for me, I

417
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gather a small group and say, "Okay, let's have the

418
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zoning and

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engineering people do a

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smell test

421
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." Well, that's working

422
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quite well. got it

423
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.

424
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And I will delete this

425
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. Well, let me repeat

426
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, this is not a law

427
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. These are the steps.

428
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Yes, you can leave it there

429
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. You can keep it

430
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. Here are

431
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the steps. And it says that they were hired

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.

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Therefore, if you decide not to adopt one of them

434
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, that's perfectly fine.

435
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And if we were to adopt one

436
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,

437
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well.

438
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If something becomes an abuse,

439
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well, as long as we're shifting towards it

440
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, that's fine

441
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. Well, let me repeat

442
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, this is a procedure,

443
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not a law. And I have no

444
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objection to having procedures

445
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. Building a one-stop

446
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shop or a one-size-

447
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fits-all store is

448
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quite difficult, so this

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entire process will be automated

450
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. What worries me a little is that there are some pretty

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grim figures regarding it

452
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. And the number is 20%

453
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. 20% can be a lot

454
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, or it can mean nothing at all

455
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. And another point is that when we talk about

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major and minor subdivisions

457
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, attention tends to focus on those

458
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. And what

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I ultimately fear is that people will come up with

460
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fragmented plans and

461
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start saying, "Okay, let's separate two lots. And separate two lots. And separate two lots

462
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." And

463
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with the first two batches I mentioned, we didn't

464
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actually see the whole picture

465
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. And so, I am

466
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working on this small project

467
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. And I'm

468
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working on another small project

469
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. And because someone is trying to

470
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circumvent this system

471
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, I'm

472
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working on yet another small project

473
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. And that is

474
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probably my biggest concern

475
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. There's nothing wrong with having the process and controls

476
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, but it's practically known to be an unbuildable mousetrap

477
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. This will definitely be

478
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very helpful. However, I

479
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think we need to be a little careful about a few points

480
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. Because it

481
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could trigger different actions that we do not want

482
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. I

483
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agree. So, first, I tried to

484
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define what was important and what was central. got it

485
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.

486
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In other words, 20% is a

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figure used by the planning committee,

488
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so that's where it came from

489
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.

490
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Yeah. So I

491
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put it here

492
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, but it's just one of many lines

493
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.

494
00:17:21,494 --> 00:17:23,204
Yes, that's right. No, I saw it

495
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. I saw it.

496
00:17:24,637 --> 00:17:26,303
But that's something we get to decide, isn't it

497
00:17:26,303 --> 00:17:28,609
? Is it a minor

498
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change, or a significant

499
00:17:30,157 --> 00:17:31,705
change? Can we go back and use the 20%

500
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figure again?

501
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However, as you pointed out

502
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, it would be difficult to quantify exactly what that 20% represents

503
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. I agree.

504
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In other words, theoretically, consider a residential development of 100 houses

505
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. This is a bad example

506
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, but a housing development of 100 homes is

507
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15 homes less than 20%

508
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. Well, it will probably

509
00:17:47,617 --> 00:17:49,062
cause traffic congestion and lead to large-scale

510
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residential development.

511
00:17:50,608 --> 00:17:52,000
As you know, there are various kinds

512
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. What I don't understand are the

513
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impact and changes on large-scale infrastructure

514
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, and the scope of the large-scale project

515
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. That's

516
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right. Alternatively, the

517
00:18:00,464 --> 00:18:01,973
bottom one could simply be that the architecture or

518
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engineering department says it

519
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needs to be moved back here, or that the

520
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town council says so

521
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. I

522
00:18:07,845 --> 00:18:09,401
think there are a lot of pitfalls here

523
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.

524
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Yes, there are many pitfalls

525
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. Indeed, it's shoot

526
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and ladder. I just

527
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, just, just, um, I

528
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understand. The routine has been

529
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changed due to significant revisions decided by the town council

530
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. Yeah.

531
00:18:27,008 --> 00:18:30,786
However, this

532
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only takes trends, as it can encompass important revisions.

533
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Therefore,

534
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writing something that works is an impossible task

535
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, and I know that. You can

536
00:18:37,221 --> 00:18:38,788
get 80%, but you can never get 100%

537
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.

538
00:18:40,272 --> 00:18:42,037
So, again,

539
00:18:42,037 --> 00:18:43,667
these are the steps we can change

540
00:18:43,667 --> 00:18:44,447
.

541
00:18:44,447 --> 00:18:47,280
No, we can say that we omit this in this situation

542
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. We will move forward in this

543
00:18:48,699 --> 00:18:50,151
way. So, you

544
00:18:50,151 --> 00:18:51,313
can do that too.

545
00:18:51,313 --> 00:18:52,559
That is not a law.

546
00:18:52,559 --> 00:18:53,548
So, if 20% are causing some emotional

547
00:18:53,548 --> 00:18:54,619
distress

548
00:18:54,619 --> 00:18:55,791
, why not do it?

549
00:18:55,791 --> 00:18:56,774
No, I don't feel any emotional pain

550
00:18:56,774 --> 00:18:57,548
. No, it's

551
00:18:57,548 --> 00:18:58,473
not emotional pain.

552
00:18:58,473 --> 00:18:59,532
That's the wrong word.

553
00:18:59,532 --> 00:19:00,440
Yeah. If you

554
00:19:03,249 --> 00:19:04,027
consider it as opening a door that either opens or doesn't open a particular door.

555
00:19:04,027 --> 00:19:04,418
yes.

556
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And they're

557
00:19:05,317 --> 00:19:06,217
afraid that others won't be able to grasp it

558
00:19:06,217 --> 00:19:07,148
. You just

559
00:19:07,148 --> 00:19:08,370
need to remove it.

560
00:19:08,370 --> 00:19:09,747
Therefore, I

561
00:19:09,747 --> 00:19:11,742
think that's generally the case. Well, I've

562
00:19:11,742 --> 00:19:12,969
simulated a few scenarios

563
00:19:12,969 --> 00:19:13,912
, and I can

564
00:19:13,912 --> 00:19:15,138
circumvent the law in several different ways

565
00:19:15,138 --> 00:19:17,497
, but that doesn't mean everyone will do that

566
00:19:17,497 --> 00:19:18,635
, you know? Let's try

567
00:19:18,635 --> 00:19:19,977
removing it

568
00:19:19,977 --> 00:19:20,637
. There is no such thing as a

569
00:19:20,637 --> 00:19:22,023
perfect mousetrap

570
00:19:22,023 --> 00:19:23,488
. My biggest concern was that it would

571
00:19:23,488 --> 00:19:24,849
encourage the work to become more fragmented

572
00:19:24,849 --> 00:19:26,256
. In other words,

573
00:19:26,256 --> 00:19:27,441
people come in and don't

574
00:19:27,441 --> 00:19:28,535
tell us the whole picture; we

575
00:19:28,535 --> 00:19:29,446
see a small part of the whole, and

576
00:19:29,446 --> 00:19:30,540
then we

577
00:19:30,540 --> 00:19:31,542
see a lot of smaller parts of the whole

578
00:19:31,542 --> 00:19:33,075
. That was my

579
00:19:33,075 --> 00:19:34,794
biggest concern. The concern is that this could

580
00:19:34,794 --> 00:19:37,082
encourage such behavior

581
00:19:37,082 --> 00:19:38,665
. However, I think we can probably

582
00:19:38,665 --> 00:19:40,177
ask frankly

583
00:19:40,177 --> 00:19:41,464
. Is there anything more to this

584
00:19:41,464 --> 00:19:42,256
?

585
00:19:42,256 --> 00:19:43,446
In other words, this is our procedure

586
00:19:43,446 --> 00:19:44,667
. Therefore, I don't

587
00:19:44,667 --> 00:19:45,768
like the fragmented approach

588
00:19:45,768 --> 00:19:46,231
.

589
00:19:46,231 --> 00:19:46,879
Most

590
00:19:46,879 --> 00:19:47,854
developers will likely find that while their first

591
00:19:47,854 --> 00:19:49,318
project might be easy to complete

592
00:19:49,318 --> 00:19:50,760
, it

593
00:19:50,760 --> 00:19:52,008
negatively impacts subsequent projects

594
00:19:52,008 --> 00:19:54,067
and leads to far more problems later on

595
00:19:54,067 --> 00:19:55,517
. That's right. that's right

596
00:19:55,517 --> 00:19:56,175
.

597
00:19:56,175 --> 00:19:57,249
And again,

598
00:19:57,249 --> 00:19:58,155
this is our internal

599
00:19:58,155 --> 00:19:58,883
operation.

600
00:19:58,883 --> 00:20:00,045
Yes, and I repeat, this is not a

601
00:20:00,045 --> 00:20:01,129
law. It's

602
00:20:01,129 --> 00:20:04,970
just a procedure. Therefore, it

603
00:20:04,970 --> 00:20:07,575
gives clarity and direction to the process. So, let's start by

604
00:20:07,575 --> 00:20:09,094
supporting that

605
00:20:09,094 --> 00:20:09,967
. Then, let's

606
00:20:09,967 --> 00:20:12,370
observe it and see how it functions in the real world

607
00:20:12,370 --> 00:20:13,455
.

608
00:20:13,455 --> 00:20:14,904
If any problems are found, we will make changes.

609
00:20:14,904 --> 00:20:15,786
That's all. To

610
00:20:15,786 --> 00:20:18,743
reiterate, 20% is a

611
00:20:18,743 --> 00:20:20,208
figure used by the architecture, or rather, the planning committee.

612
00:20:20,208 --> 00:20:21,362
So let's delete it and make it possible for

613
00:20:21,362 --> 00:20:22,339
us to do it

614
00:20:22,339 --> 00:20:24,002
. My question about that is

615
00:20:24,002 --> 00:20:26,185
, who decides what 20% to be?

616
00:20:26,285 --> 00:20:26,926
I'm just

617
00:20:26,926 --> 00:20:27,852
saying that was their feedback

618
00:20:27,852 --> 00:20:29,066
. Those are the

619
00:20:29,066 --> 00:20:30,472
numbers they use.

620
00:20:30,472 --> 00:20:31,046
Yeah. No matter

621
00:20:31,046 --> 00:20:32,493
how you express it, no matter

622
00:20:32,493 --> 00:20:34,041
what numbers you use,

623
00:20:34,041 --> 00:20:34,438
yes.

624
00:20:34,438 --> 00:20:35,734
Someone has to make a decision and

625
00:20:35,734 --> 00:20:37,032
pull the trigger.

626
00:20:37,032 --> 00:20:38,710
That's right. So,

627
00:20:38,710 --> 00:20:40,629
that's all. I thought it was still a little bit, around

628
00:20:40,629 --> 00:20:42,732
5%, but then I got

629
00:20:42,732 --> 00:20:44,874
yelled at for saying it was more than 5%, so things are

630
00:20:44,874 --> 00:20:48,444
moving in the opposite direction too. Some

631
00:20:48,444 --> 00:20:50,009
parts should be divided using the dotted line rule, but in any case

632
00:20:50,009 --> 00:20:51,575
, they will remain as they are

633
00:20:51,575 --> 00:20:54,479
. I

634
00:20:54,479 --> 00:20:56,833
think this is a step in the right direction. Furthermore, make sure you understand

635
00:20:56,833 --> 00:21:00,551
what is needed for the planning committee's materials and

636
00:21:00,651 --> 00:21:03,252
how all that information will be compiled

637
00:21:03,252 --> 00:21:05,577
. yes.

638
00:21:05,577 --> 00:21:07,401
And there is a structure and a

639
00:21:07,401 --> 00:21:14,123
path to it. yes.

640
00:21:14,123 --> 00:21:15,286
Well, if you want to create a

641
00:21:15,286 --> 00:21:17,373
B schedule that includes a pre-briefing meeting

642
00:21:17,373 --> 00:21:18,536
, that's fine

643
00:21:18,536 --> 00:21:19,774
. However, I have no intention of discontinuing small-table

644
00:21:19,774 --> 00:21:20,917
meetings

645
00:21:20,917 --> 00:21:21,399
.

646
00:21:21,399 --> 00:21:22,444
No, I'm not saying I want to quit

647
00:21:22,444 --> 00:21:25,230
.

648
00:21:25,230 --> 00:21:29,483
When I was attending a zoning reform meeting, the

649
00:21:29,483 --> 00:21:31,218
topic came up that this procedure might not be the standard, but could become the norm

650
00:21:31,218 --> 00:21:32,625
. And that's why we're here to

651
00:21:32,625 --> 00:21:35,292
support and build our community

652
00:21:35,292 --> 00:21:35,712
.

653
00:21:35,712 --> 00:21:36,120
yes.

654
00:21:36,120 --> 00:21:39,965
But when that came up, it

655
00:21:41,888 --> 00:21:43,911
gave us comprehensive coverage in case we encountered abusive situations. I tried to think

656
00:21:43,911 --> 00:21:45,587
beyond what I had seen over the past six years

657
00:21:45,587 --> 00:21:47,047
.

658
00:21:47,047 --> 00:21:50,533
Yeah. got it. Should we

659
00:21:50,533 --> 00:21:51,788
review or

660
00:21:51,788 --> 00:21:53,449
remove the 20%? I

661
00:21:54,670 --> 00:21:55,791
told them to leave it as is, try it a few times, and see what happens

662
00:21:55,791 --> 00:21:57,147
. And if changes are necessary, we will make them

663
00:21:57,147 --> 00:21:58,557
. That's all

664
00:21:58,557 --> 00:22:01,589
. Well, there are

665
00:22:01,589 --> 00:22:03,020
many other things we need to focus on here. There

666
00:22:03,020 --> 00:22:04,468
are many problems. This

667
00:22:04,468 --> 00:22:05,913
is a major problem. Yeah. There

668
00:22:05,913 --> 00:22:07,216
are many problems. it's

669
00:22:07,216 --> 00:22:08,898
okay. Should we hire them tonight

670
00:22:08,898 --> 00:22:10,317
, or send them tomorrow

671
00:22:10,317 --> 00:22:10,636
? They've been around everywhere

672
00:22:10,636 --> 00:22:11,866
since January

673
00:22:11,866 --> 00:22:12,509
.

674
00:22:12,509 --> 00:22:14,142
This is just a procedure. It's

675
00:22:14,142 --> 00:22:15,572
not actually a law.

676
00:22:15,572 --> 00:22:16,736
If you don't mind, I'd like to make a few

677
00:22:16,736 --> 00:22:17,911
comments.

678
00:22:17,911 --> 00:22:19,354
yes. Um, Peter, should we

679
00:22:19,354 --> 00:22:20,741
save that for the board

680
00:22:20,741 --> 00:22:22,243
, or should we discuss it now

681
00:22:22,243 --> 00:22:22,806
?

682
00:22:22,806 --> 00:22:24,255
That would probably be better

683
00:22:24,255 --> 00:22:24,578
.

684
00:22:24,578 --> 00:22:25,948
Should I wait?

685
00:22:25,948 --> 00:22:27,471
Yes. got it. got it

686
00:22:27,471 --> 00:22:27,988
.

687
00:22:27,988 --> 00:22:29,042
Well, I'm going back and forth here

688
00:22:29,042 --> 00:22:30,315
. It's still on the agenda

689
00:22:30,315 --> 00:22:31,665
. Is that all for the agenda

690
00:22:31,665 --> 00:22:32,980
? That's all I had

691
00:22:32,980 --> 00:22:34,472
. This should be the end

692
00:22:34,472 --> 00:22:37,459
. got it. Let's wrap up the

693
00:22:37,459 --> 00:22:39,113
agenda while the advisory committee reviews the matter

694
00:22:39,113 --> 00:22:41,148
. Do you have any updates?

695
00:22:41,148 --> 00:22:43,263
Yes, we're still going around in circles about the tree

696
00:22:43,263 --> 00:22:46,407
. I

697
00:22:46,407 --> 00:22:50,630
think they made changes. I

698
00:22:50,630 --> 00:22:51,488
believe we've returned to the agenda of the planning committee.

699
00:22:51,488 --> 00:22:53,177
yes. So let's see

700
00:22:53,177 --> 00:22:55,204
what happens.

701
00:22:55,204 --> 00:22:57,418
Aside from that, the topics of transportation and history have not been

702
00:22:57,418 --> 00:22:59,462
discussed since the last meeting

703
00:22:59,462 --> 00:23:01,095
. That's all.

704
00:23:01,095 --> 00:23:02,786
If you have any concerns regarding transportation

705
00:23:02,786 --> 00:23:04,477
, I would like to let you know after the meeting

706
00:23:04,477 --> 00:23:06,207
. Please allow me to explain after the meeting

707
00:23:06,207 --> 00:23:07,652
. Okay

708
00:23:07,652 --> 00:23:08,351
? Let's

709
00:23:08,351 --> 00:23:09,174
talk about it separately.

710
00:23:09,174 --> 00:23:11,046
Perhaps we can move it forward

711
00:23:11,046 --> 00:23:12,674
. Ron, is there anything

712
00:23:12,674 --> 00:23:12,956
?

713
00:23:12,956 --> 00:23:14,839
Yes.

714
00:23:14,839 --> 00:23:16,404
Regarding the community, I was reading something about it here

715
00:23:16,404 --> 00:23:18,053
. EDAB held a

716
00:23:18,053 --> 00:23:20,887
meeting. They are making

717
00:23:20,887 --> 00:23:22,225
minor adjustments for calendars and other projects

718
00:23:22,225 --> 00:23:23,459
, but the

719
00:23:23,459 --> 00:23:24,797
art project is complete

720
00:23:24,797 --> 00:23:27,096
. So, he wants to give a presentation about the check at the next town council meeting

721
00:23:28,757 --> 00:23:32,338
. Please prepare a check

722
00:23:32,338 --> 00:23:34,239
. Since it's included in the budget

723
00:23:34,239 --> 00:23:37,448
, we'll set aside some money to prepare what we need

724
00:23:37,448 --> 00:23:38,985
. It would be great if we could do that at the 8 o'clock

725
00:23:38,985 --> 00:23:40,190
meeting

726
00:23:40,190 --> 00:23:42,490
.

727
00:23:43,630 --> 00:23:44,965
Take several photos of each item so they can be displayed on the smartboard.

728
00:23:44,965 --> 00:23:46,636
That way everyone can understand

729
00:23:46,636 --> 00:23:49,172
. If they share their screen, it will be recorded

730
00:23:49,172 --> 00:23:50,956
, and they

731
00:23:50,956 --> 00:23:52,740
expect the article to be published the week before

732
00:23:52,740 --> 00:23:54,832
. So, if you have that photo

733
00:23:54,832 --> 00:23:56,028
, you can give a short

734
00:23:56,028 --> 00:23:57,583
presentation or something and

735
00:23:57,583 --> 00:23:59,238
share your screen. got it

736
00:23:59,238 --> 00:24:00,196
.

737
00:24:00,196 --> 00:24:01,908
Karen wants a W-9

738
00:24:01,908 --> 00:24:02,436
.

739
00:24:02,436 --> 00:24:03,560
yes. It's

740
00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:04,453
not $600, but they still seem to

741
00:24:04,453 --> 00:24:05,625
want it.

742
00:24:05,625 --> 00:24:06,018
Yeah.

743
00:24:06,018 --> 00:24:07,067
Justin said so

744
00:24:07,067 --> 00:24:08,525
. Okay, let's proceed

745
00:24:08,525 --> 00:24:10,135
. As I

746
00:24:10,135 --> 00:24:11,431
mentioned earlier, the

747
00:24:11,431 --> 00:24:15,174
Zoning Reform Committee has held a meeting and is

748
00:24:15,174 --> 00:24:17,002
almost ready to present its presentation.

749
00:24:17,002 --> 00:24:18,834
They asked Ron to help, and I'm

750
00:24:18,834 --> 00:24:20,819
meeting with him today to

751
00:24:20,819 --> 00:24:22,652
fine-tune and clarify a few points

752
00:24:22,652 --> 00:24:23,568
, and then I'll give the

753
00:24:23,568 --> 00:24:25,400
presentation

754
00:24:25,400 --> 00:24:27,352
. I suggested doing this at the beginning of the workshop

755
00:24:27,352 --> 00:24:30,094
. Is that

756
00:24:30,094 --> 00:24:31,381
alright with you all

757
00:24:31,381 --> 00:24:33,507
? I'm thinking probably November, maybe the

758
00:24:33,507 --> 00:24:36,190
first week of November.

759
00:24:36,190 --> 00:24:37,423
However, we will confirm that it is on the agenda

760
00:24:37,423 --> 00:24:38,562
,

761
00:24:38,562 --> 00:24:39,701
how much time they will need

762
00:24:39,701 --> 00:24:42,074
, and whether we need to start a little earlier

763
00:24:42,074 --> 00:24:43,365
. got it.

764
00:24:43,365 --> 00:24:45,861
No problem. That's all.

765
00:24:45,861 --> 00:24:46,439
Tom.

766
00:24:46,439 --> 00:24:47,384
Um, parks and

767
00:24:47,384 --> 00:24:50,580
recreation. The

768
00:24:50,580 --> 00:24:52,644
two real problems they had were

769
00:24:52,644 --> 00:24:54,708
, as mentioned in one of the emails Sam sent

770
00:24:54,708 --> 00:24:56,716
, that they

771
00:24:56,716 --> 00:25:01,633
wanted to know as much detail as we had

772
00:25:01,633 --> 00:25:03,390
. Otherwise

773
00:25:03,390 --> 00:25:06,780
, they wanted the recreation fee to be

774
00:25:06,780 --> 00:25:08,407
approved by the town while it was actually being collected, and they wanted to implement

775
00:25:08,407 --> 00:25:11,797
policies to ensure it was properly tracked

776
00:25:11,797 --> 00:25:14,565
. At least since you became a board member

777
00:25:14,565 --> 00:25:15,833
, which is probably around the time

778
00:25:15,833 --> 00:25:17,100
we started collecting them

779
00:25:17,100 --> 00:25:18,270
, you've made it

780
00:25:18,270 --> 00:25:19,538
part of the motion, and they do

781
00:25:19,538 --> 00:25:20,805
n't mean that, as

782
00:25:20,805 --> 00:25:22,560
I understand it, the

783
00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:23,828
building permit won't be granted until the recreation fees are paid

784
00:25:23,828 --> 00:25:25,098
.

785
00:25:25,098 --> 00:25:26,626
Yes, or perhaps there's

786
00:25:26,626 --> 00:25:28,154
another

787
00:25:28,154 --> 00:25:29,565
agreement or arrangement that they get whatever percentage they want

788
00:25:29,565 --> 00:25:30,253
? that's right

789
00:25:30,253 --> 00:25:33,078
. So they

790
00:25:35,526 --> 00:25:37,281
said they wanted more information about how we are doing to ensure we pay them. Well

791
00:25:37,281 --> 00:25:38,879
, I can't

792
00:25:39,767 --> 00:25:40,729
talk about how things were working before I came here, but since I've been here

793
00:25:40,729 --> 00:25:41,617
, I've been pretty assertive

794
00:25:41,617 --> 00:25:42,606
.

795
00:25:42,606 --> 00:25:43,596
So, yeah.

796
00:25:43,596 --> 00:25:45,237
That was their opinion.

797
00:25:45,237 --> 00:25:48,257
They voted to advise us to hire someone to investigate

798
00:25:48,257 --> 00:25:49,827
this identification and collection

799
00:25:49,827 --> 00:25:52,968
process to ensure that the money is being collected completely and promptly

800
00:25:52,968 --> 00:25:55,257
. got it

801
00:25:55,257 --> 00:25:55,371
.

802
00:25:55,371 --> 00:25:57,791
Then, the only other

803
00:25:57,791 --> 00:25:59,362
thing they had was information about the kayak launching and landing area

804
00:25:59,362 --> 00:26:00,510
.

805
00:26:00,510 --> 00:26:02,054
In other words,

806
00:26:02,054 --> 00:26:03,726
they should propose it when we hold these preliminary meetings

807
00:26:03,726 --> 00:26:07,117
.

808
00:26:07,117 --> 00:26:09,020
So, if the land readjustment project is

809
00:26:09,020 --> 00:26:12,310
deemed approved,

810
00:26:12,310 --> 00:26:13,742
how will they ensure they receive their payments

811
00:26:13,742 --> 00:26:15,274
? As I

812
00:26:15,274 --> 00:26:16,833
mentioned earlier, every time I've

813
00:26:16,833 --> 00:26:19,951
approved a land readjustment project since coming here, I've

814
00:26:19,951 --> 00:26:20,671
usually made a

815
00:26:20,671 --> 00:26:22,230
recreation fee a condition when submitting the approval motion

816
00:26:22,230 --> 00:26:25,429
. And they may

817
00:26:25,429 --> 00:26:26,509
know they have to pay, but

818
00:26:26,509 --> 00:26:28,788
how?

819
00:26:28,788 --> 00:26:29,977
If recreation fees are a condition, how would they

820
00:26:29,977 --> 00:26:31,460
find out? For example

821
00:26:31,460 --> 00:26:34,496
, I was

822
00:26:34,496 --> 00:26:36,400
discussing that topic at another meeting, and I

823
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:38,254
believe it was the same person who created it

824
00:26:38,254 --> 00:26:39,976
.

825
00:26:39,976 --> 00:26:43,957
The conditions are also important. Therefore,

826
00:26:43,957 --> 00:26:47,406
when a proposal like the one submitted from now on is approved, the resolution will

827
00:26:49,541 --> 00:26:51,676
state, "The town council approves the XYZ project under the following conditions," and the

828
00:26:51,676 --> 00:26:53,647
conditions stated in the resolution will be

829
00:26:53,647 --> 00:26:57,565
indicated. Would it be

830
00:27:01,899 --> 00:27:05,058
appropriate to clearly state that recreation fees apply and then apply the calculation formula to the total amount?

831
00:27:05,058 --> 00:27:05,805
So, does that mean it will be

832
00:27:05,805 --> 00:27:07,281
included in the resolution

833
00:27:07,281 --> 00:27:08,119
? These aren't

834
00:27:08,119 --> 00:27:10,068
specific numbers

835
00:27:10,068 --> 00:27:11,867
, but frankly speaking, it depends on the situation,

836
00:27:11,867 --> 00:27:13,667
but you just

837
00:27:13,667 --> 00:27:15,677
change the numbers. You will pay recreation fees

838
00:27:15,677 --> 00:27:18,485
from the time of approval until you obtain a building permit

839
00:27:18,485 --> 00:27:19,852
. In other words,

840
00:27:19,852 --> 00:27:20,873
even if approval is granted in the first year, what do you think will happen if you don't

841
00:27:20,873 --> 00:27:21,955
obtain a building permit by the third year and the

842
00:27:21,955 --> 00:27:22,946
recreation fees

843
00:27:22,946 --> 00:27:24,028
increase

844
00:27:24,028 --> 00:27:25,890
? You will end up

845
00:27:27,452 --> 00:27:29,321
paying the recreation fees for the third year, not the first year.

846
00:27:29,321 --> 00:27:31,652
So,

847
00:27:31,652 --> 00:27:33,219
instead of a recreation fee, do they do it occasionally

848
00:27:33,219 --> 00:27:34,706
? I've been asked about that

849
00:27:34,706 --> 00:27:35,891
.

850
00:27:35,891 --> 00:27:39,659
We have negotiated specific components in various places

851
00:27:39,659 --> 00:27:41,754
. Because that's what

852
00:27:41,754 --> 00:27:43,391
they wanted to do

853
00:27:43,391 --> 00:27:44,216
. This was the

854
00:27:44,216 --> 00:27:45,361
last

855
00:27:45,361 --> 00:27:45,939
thing Radisson did.

856
00:27:45,939 --> 00:27:48,994
Yes, they provided recreational components that benefited the townspeople

857
00:27:50,521 --> 00:27:51,209
. Also, some of them

858
00:27:51,209 --> 00:27:52,849
exploded on our faces

859
00:27:52,849 --> 00:27:53,580
.

860
00:27:53,580 --> 00:27:54,000
Yeah. I've

861
00:27:54,000 --> 00:27:56,717
included that, and I'm

862
00:27:56,717 --> 00:27:58,129
asking this because I haven't yet participated in that process

863
00:27:58,129 --> 00:27:59,187
. Do they list the

864
00:27:59,187 --> 00:28:00,829
dollar amount for that recreation

865
00:28:00,829 --> 00:28:02,109
?

866
00:28:02,109 --> 00:28:03,545
No, they do.

867
00:28:03,545 --> 00:28:05,180
So, will it be included in the resolution

868
00:28:05,180 --> 00:28:06,771
? Let's say, after five years,

869
00:28:06,771 --> 00:28:08,543
nothing is done and then they say, "No, we do

870
00:28:08,543 --> 00:28:11,134
n't want to build a fountain." Is

871
00:28:16,035 --> 00:28:18,264
there a fee I would need to pay to get reapproval if I want to change the plan? yes.

872
00:28:18,264 --> 00:28:19,839
Therefore, if you do not take the specific

873
00:28:19,839 --> 00:28:21,414
pre-emptive measures we implement

874
00:28:21,414 --> 00:28:22,989
, you will also be charged an agency fee

875
00:28:22,989 --> 00:28:24,959
. yes. yes. got it

876
00:28:24,959 --> 00:28:25,162
. That's something we should

877
00:28:25,162 --> 00:28:26,863
consider. The

878
00:28:26,863 --> 00:28:28,485
only thing they added was a

879
00:28:28,485 --> 00:28:30,562
kayak launching/returning area.

880
00:28:30,562 --> 00:28:34,025
They were presented with Greenway's perspective and wanted to

881
00:28:34,025 --> 00:28:35,491
confirm that a joint application had been submitted

882
00:28:35,491 --> 00:28:37,755
. I

883
00:28:37,755 --> 00:28:39,658
sent emails to Chris and Bob, and they

884
00:28:39,658 --> 00:28:42,885
informed me that they had been sent.

885
00:28:42,885 --> 00:28:47,824
yes. got it. got it

886
00:28:47,824 --> 00:28:49,368
. Well, I saw the planning committee

887
00:28:49,368 --> 00:28:50,878
, and obviously the planning committee

888
00:28:50,878 --> 00:28:52,655
. So, well

889
00:28:52,655 --> 00:28:54,475
, they are planning to meet again soon

890
00:28:54,475 --> 00:28:56,191
. got it

891
00:28:56,191 --> 00:28:57,878
. The advisory committee's review is

892
00:28:57,878 --> 00:28:59,879
complete. Code execution

893
00:28:59,879 --> 00:29:01,957
is a proposed fee for the BAS system

894
00:29:01,957 --> 00:29:04,554
. Well, Ron

895
00:29:04,554 --> 00:29:07,950
sent us a letter. Um, is

896
00:29:07,950 --> 00:29:09,777
this something that was researched

897
00:29:09,777 --> 00:29:11,756
, or is it simply a

898
00:29:11,756 --> 00:29:13,431
number we're applying

899
00:29:13,431 --> 00:29:14,141
?

900
00:29:14,141 --> 00:29:15,705
We think that's a cool number

901
00:29:15,705 --> 00:29:18,670
. I don't know how he came up with that idea

902
00:29:18,670 --> 00:29:19,505
.

903
00:29:19,505 --> 00:29:20,781
I don't know either. I don't understand

904
00:29:20,781 --> 00:29:22,261
. I don't know if that's appropriate or inappropriate

905
00:29:22,261 --> 00:29:23,498
. It might be

906
00:29:23,498 --> 00:29:24,363
lower

907
00:29:24,363 --> 00:29:25,300
, or it might be higher

908
00:29:25,300 --> 00:29:27,181
. I don't understand.

909
00:29:27,281 --> 00:29:29,043
I looked up some things about the town on Google, and it's

910
00:29:29,043 --> 00:29:30,805
simply amazing

911
00:29:30,805 --> 00:29:31,294
. I

912
00:29:31,294 --> 00:29:32,512
agree. Yeah.

913
00:29:32,512 --> 00:29:33,993
And I don't know what that means

914
00:29:33,993 --> 00:29:35,119
.

915
00:29:35,119 --> 00:29:37,610
In other words, he says, "I don't

916
00:29:37,610 --> 00:29:39,196
object." However, I don't know the

917
00:29:39,196 --> 00:29:40,603
size of the solar panel

918
00:29:40,603 --> 00:29:41,172
.

919
00:29:41,172 --> 00:29:42,509
Yeah. It's not a

920
00:29:42,509 --> 00:29:43,983
big deal.

921
00:29:43,983 --> 00:29:45,637
I just wanted to see what was there

922
00:29:45,637 --> 00:29:48,513
. Was it $1,500? I don't understand

923
00:29:48,513 --> 00:29:49,737
. It was around $1,500

924
00:29:49,737 --> 00:29:50,972
. A 5-

925
00:29:50,972 --> 00:29:52,277
megawatt solar

926
00:29:52,277 --> 00:29:53,801
system requires a $1,500

927
00:29:53,801 --> 00:29:56,691
application fee. This

928
00:29:56,691 --> 00:30:01,626
corresponds to Tier 2. I don't know why he

929
00:30:01,626 --> 00:30:03,938
went.

930
00:30:03,938 --> 00:30:05,511
Since it's a new technology, it might be

931
00:30:05,511 --> 00:30:07,084
difficult to find information about it

932
00:30:07,084 --> 00:30:08,102
.

933
00:30:08,102 --> 00:30:09,463
Well, solar power generation isn't all that

934
00:30:09,463 --> 00:30:10,924
new.

935
00:30:10,924 --> 00:30:11,582
No, I meant

936
00:30:11,582 --> 00:30:14,864
BAS. So, what I would

937
00:30:14,864 --> 00:30:16,637
say is,

938
00:30:16,637 --> 00:30:18,732
send this back to him and ask, "Does this match the other towns

939
00:30:18,732 --> 00:30:21,916
?" I don't know

940
00:30:22,016 --> 00:30:22,774
. I'll

941
00:30:22,774 --> 00:30:24,146
check with Bridget as well.

942
00:30:24,146 --> 00:30:25,484
She definitely knows.

943
00:30:25,484 --> 00:30:26,570
Bridget, is this correct

944
00:30:26,570 --> 00:30:27,865
? If so, we will add it

945
00:30:27,865 --> 00:30:29,067
to the agenda for the next meeting

946
00:30:29,067 --> 00:30:30,309
. Does this make sense

947
00:30:30,309 --> 00:30:31,822
? I don't understand what you mean

948
00:30:31,822 --> 00:30:32,148
.

949
00:30:32,148 --> 00:30:34,553
As long as there is some basis for this, is the end of it.

950
00:30:34,553 --> 00:30:36,316
However, in my opinion, those are

951
00:30:36,316 --> 00:30:40,553
simply arbitrary numbers. The BAS

952
00:30:40,553 --> 00:30:42,612
Act does not specify an application fee

953
00:30:42,612 --> 00:30:45,535
. They have

954
00:30:45,535 --> 00:30:47,491
nothing to pay, especially usage

955
00:30:47,491 --> 00:30:49,446
fees, site plan review fees, and

956
00:30:49,446 --> 00:30:51,513
building permit fees. I think what

957
00:30:51,513 --> 00:30:52,976
he's actually talking about here is the

958
00:30:52,976 --> 00:30:54,326
building permit fee

959
00:30:54,326 --> 00:30:57,155
. I'm not sure how much I should charge for the site plan application fee

960
00:30:57,155 --> 00:30:58,647
. Because

961
00:30:58,647 --> 00:31:01,617
they have to deposit $50,000 in escrow, which they will use to pay the consultant who will review the site plan

962
00:31:04,627 --> 00:31:06,712
. That should probably be

963
00:31:06,712 --> 00:31:09,518
enough. I

964
00:31:10,905 --> 00:31:12,942
know they considered our feelings when it came to that amount. got it

965
00:31:12,942 --> 00:31:15,129
.

966
00:31:15,129 --> 00:31:16,992
However, if we were to introduce another fee

967
00:31:16,992 --> 00:31:18,234
, namely a

968
00:31:18,234 --> 00:31:20,253
consultant fee

969
00:31:20,253 --> 00:31:22,271
, this would obviously only cover the cost of using an

970
00:31:22,271 --> 00:31:26,309
external organization to review the site plan,

971
00:31:26,309 --> 00:31:28,172
but would also incur costs related to our in-house staff

972
00:31:28,172 --> 00:31:30,899
. To

973
00:31:30,899 --> 00:31:32,489
put it very simply,

974
00:31:32,489 --> 00:31:34,212
when doing this informally with everyone, it's like

975
00:31:34,212 --> 00:31:35,802
turning the key to a bulldozer

976
00:31:35,802 --> 00:31:37,519
. In other words,

977
00:31:37,519 --> 00:31:39,049
things start moving, and it

978
00:31:39,049 --> 00:31:42,343
costs money. So, you

979
00:31:42,343 --> 00:31:43,997
want to incorporate both a separate fee and an escrow account?

980
00:31:43,997 --> 00:31:47,349
That's something we can probably consider now or next week

981
00:31:47,349 --> 00:31:47,718
. got it

982
00:31:47,718 --> 00:31:51,649
. It may be

983
00:31:55,249 --> 00:31:57,149
worthwhile to gather things that can help offset costs, not just to avoid incurring additional expenses.

984
00:31:57,149 --> 00:31:59,235
Yeah. It's

985
00:31:59,235 --> 00:32:00,083
great that it functions that way.

986
00:32:00,083 --> 00:32:02,675
Yeah. got it. Let's

987
00:32:02,675 --> 00:32:05,289
consider this. Um,

988
00:32:05,289 --> 00:32:06,900
who's going to take this to the round

989
00:32:06,900 --> 00:32:08,900
? Should I bring it with me on the round

990
00:32:08,900 --> 00:32:12,964
? I think I'll take it

991
00:32:12,964 --> 00:32:17,655
. I'll

992
00:32:17,655 --> 00:32:19,219
also send an email to Bridget

993
00:32:19,219 --> 00:32:19,680
.

994
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:23,478
Yes, please do. That's

995
00:32:23,478 --> 00:32:25,788
great. Since ZVL came around

996
00:32:25,788 --> 00:32:27,842
, I think they probably considered a

997
00:32:27,842 --> 00:32:29,896
proposal to lease town land for a bus system

998
00:32:29,896 --> 00:32:32,575
. Well

999
00:32:32,575 --> 00:32:38,900
, I'll put that on hold.

1000
00:32:38,900 --> 00:32:41,222
Office Space: We will discuss new

1001
00:32:41,222 --> 00:32:42,635
office spaces for lawyers

1002
00:32:42,635 --> 00:32:44,562
. Did

1003
00:32:44,562 --> 00:32:46,049
Dan pick it up

1004
00:32:46,049 --> 00:32:48,749
? I think that was his entry, right

1005
00:32:48,749 --> 00:32:50,027
?

1006
00:32:50,027 --> 00:32:53,441
Yes, no. This

1007
00:32:53,441 --> 00:32:54,862
eliminates the fact that no one is needed in the waiting room. I

1008
00:32:54,862 --> 00:32:55,403
previously

1009
00:32:55,403 --> 00:32:56,822
used Kelly Ann's space

1010
00:32:56,822 --> 00:32:58,148
, but

1011
00:32:58,148 --> 00:32:59,822
I am

1012
00:32:59,822 --> 00:33:01,599
aware that there was some discussion about it. If necessary

1013
00:33:01,599 --> 00:33:03,284
, let me add a few more points

1014
00:33:03,284 --> 00:33:06,971
. Well, the entire city hall

1015
00:33:06,971 --> 00:33:09,488
considered several options. The

1016
00:33:09,488 --> 00:33:11,202
only available

1017
00:33:11,202 --> 00:33:14,630
area that was actually considered as a possibility was to somehow rearrange the accounting space

1018
00:33:14,630 --> 00:33:18,721
. Well, it was Jim's

1019
00:33:18,721 --> 00:33:20,365
suggestion, and I couldn't

1020
00:33:20,365 --> 00:33:22,147
picture it in my head, so I had to go and see it in

1021
00:33:22,147 --> 00:33:23,929
person, but,

1022
00:33:23,929 --> 00:33:25,573
well,

1023
00:33:25,573 --> 00:33:27,355
this is Colleen's office,

1024
00:33:27,355 --> 00:33:28,999
so it's a little tricky, but there's a

1025
00:33:28,999 --> 00:33:30,781
space like this, and

1026
00:33:30,781 --> 00:33:32,425
this is Colleen's office

1027
00:33:32,425 --> 00:33:38,264
. There's a door inside

1028
00:33:38,264 --> 00:33:39,642
, but her office juts out into the corridor like

1029
00:33:39,642 --> 00:33:42,729
this.

1030
00:33:42,729 --> 00:33:44,332
So Jimmy suggested

1031
00:33:44,332 --> 00:33:45,689
moving the door to the outside hallway so that he wouldn't be in the

1032
00:33:45,689 --> 00:33:48,897
way when coming in and out of the space

1033
00:33:48,897 --> 00:33:54,470
.

1034
00:33:54,470 --> 00:33:56,172
People can enter and exit the lawyer's office, and their

1035
00:33:56,172 --> 00:33:57,875
privacy is better protected

1036
00:33:57,875 --> 00:34:03,191
. Jackie sits here, across this entire wall

1037
00:34:03,191 --> 00:34:05,074
. This entire wall is divided into three separate walls

1038
00:34:05,074 --> 00:34:07,211
. These

1039
00:34:07,211 --> 00:34:09,146
walls are made of earthenware and

1040
00:34:09,146 --> 00:34:11,609
are removable. Therefore, there

1041
00:34:11,609 --> 00:34:16,109
are several methods. We could move this around to make the

1042
00:34:16,109 --> 00:34:18,072
table space for this little refrigerator smaller

1043
00:34:18,072 --> 00:34:21,595
, or larger, or even

1044
00:34:21,595 --> 00:34:27,153
divide the whole thing into two large offices so

1045
00:34:27,153 --> 00:34:28,694
Colleen can monitor

1046
00:34:28,694 --> 00:34:31,778
what's happening in those offices with the staff

1047
00:34:31,778 --> 00:34:35,977
. Of the

1048
00:34:35,977 --> 00:34:40,237
options we discussed,

1049
00:34:40,237 --> 00:34:48,551
this is the most feasible, from what I've heard. It's

1050
00:34:48,551 --> 00:34:49,989
small, but it's still

1051
00:34:49,989 --> 00:34:52,200
private. It's a fairly

1052
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:53,838
private and safe area

1053
00:34:53,838 --> 00:34:58,033
. Instead of a lunchroom

1054
00:34:58,033 --> 00:34:59,867
, a small break room was converted for prosecutors

1055
00:34:59,867 --> 00:35:01,662
. It seems to be working well

1056
00:35:01,662 --> 00:35:03,210
. I don't know

1057
00:35:03,210 --> 00:35:05,075
where else to put him or her

1058
00:35:05,075 --> 00:35:08,788
.

1059
00:35:08,788 --> 00:35:10,024
How about the size?

1060
00:35:10,024 --> 00:35:12,286
Excuse me. yes. Yeah.

1061
00:35:12,286 --> 00:35:15,177
That's a different space. I'm not

1062
00:35:15,177 --> 00:35:18,445
ready yet. I

1063
00:35:23,507 --> 00:35:24,870
believe Jill received a grant to use the entire room that Ron Stiff is currently using for filing work.

1064
00:35:24,870 --> 00:35:26,610
Part of the filing cabinet will

1065
00:35:26,610 --> 00:35:28,495
be empty, but there is no separate entrance

1066
00:35:28,495 --> 00:35:30,283
; it shares two walls

1067
00:35:30,283 --> 00:35:31,706
. So,

1068
00:35:31,706 --> 00:35:32,980
regarding privacy, the

1069
00:35:32,980 --> 00:35:35,634
fact that it's being shared means it's

1070
00:35:35,634 --> 00:35:40,581
not all that private, right? I

1071
00:35:40,581 --> 00:35:42,223
think we need more private office spaces

1072
00:35:42,223 --> 00:35:45,268
. It's not like I'm sharing that thin wall with someone

1073
00:35:45,268 --> 00:35:48,577
. If there's anything more to it

1074
00:35:48,577 --> 00:35:50,377
, I don't know.

1075
00:35:50,377 --> 00:35:52,375
This was the last one I heard

1076
00:35:52,375 --> 00:35:54,374
, and it was the best option

1077
00:35:54,374 --> 00:35:56,764
. However, this will mean

1078
00:35:56,764 --> 00:35:58,459
moving Colleen to a new space

1079
00:35:58,459 --> 00:36:02,543
. got it. Jose

1080
00:36:02,543 --> 00:36:04,459
?

1081
00:36:04,459 --> 00:36:06,011
I didn't know that

1082
00:36:06,011 --> 00:36:07,825
. I've never heard of that before. Once

1083
00:36:07,825 --> 00:36:11,076
Dan returns, I

1084
00:36:11,076 --> 00:36:12,889
think he'll probably be back tomorrow or the day after. got it. Let's

1085
00:36:12,889 --> 00:36:15,932
discuss this a bit more. Please

1086
00:36:15,932 --> 00:36:17,550
find something. It's the

1087
00:36:17,550 --> 00:36:18,389
same. Do you

1088
00:36:18,389 --> 00:36:23,723
have any opinions? There is

1089
00:36:27,077 --> 00:36:29,520
certainly evidence to confirm that there is a certain degree of privacy in the space he occupies. That way

1090
00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:31,014
, we can get it

1091
00:36:31,014 --> 00:36:32,669
. I never would have

1092
00:36:32,669 --> 00:36:34,249
imagined this door situation

1093
00:36:34,249 --> 00:36:35,904
. I actually had to go up and take a

1094
00:36:35,904 --> 00:36:37,442
look

1095
00:36:37,442 --> 00:36:38,744
, but the wall moves so all I had to do was

1096
00:36:38,744 --> 00:36:40,401
remove the door. The panel may

1097
00:36:40,401 --> 00:36:42,002
need adjustment

1098
00:36:42,002 --> 00:36:43,708
. Because the door is

1099
00:36:43,708 --> 00:36:45,317
wider than the smaller panel

1100
00:36:45,317 --> 00:36:46,888
. It's flat now.

1101
00:36:46,888 --> 00:36:48,214
So, I have a very different opinion

1102
00:36:48,214 --> 00:36:49,540
, and to be honest

1103
00:36:49,540 --> 00:36:50,866
, you might not believe me

1104
00:36:50,866 --> 00:36:53,110
, but I think we need to discuss this in a private meeting

1105
00:36:53,110 --> 00:36:54,960
. So, well, we'll

1106
00:36:54,960 --> 00:37:00,092
reconsider that. I don't know what's

1107
00:37:00,092 --> 00:37:01,744
true and what's not

1108
00:37:01,744 --> 00:37:03,396
, as I need legal advice

1109
00:37:03,396 --> 00:37:05,426
. Um

1110
00:37:05,426 --> 00:37:07,652
, the essential agenda items for the department head meeting

1111
00:37:07,652 --> 00:37:11,090
. So,

1112
00:37:11,090 --> 00:37:12,765
what topic would you all like to discuss?

1113
00:37:12,765 --> 00:37:14,434
And what is the final result

1114
00:37:14,434 --> 00:37:16,211
? Well, I'll put together anything you

1115
00:37:16,211 --> 00:37:17,712
want

1116
00:37:17,712 --> 00:37:19,048
. I don't really

1117
00:37:19,048 --> 00:37:20,259
mind.

1118
00:37:20,259 --> 00:37:21,332
no. no. That might be true for

1119
00:37:21,332 --> 00:37:22,403
some of them

1120
00:37:22,403 --> 00:37:23,060
. Yeah.

1121
00:37:23,060 --> 00:37:24,277
That's the item.

1122
00:37:24,277 --> 00:37:24,677
Yeah. In

1123
00:37:24,677 --> 00:37:25,927
other words, I don't know.

1124
00:37:25,927 --> 00:37:26,999
So, obviously, we need to record it, right

1125
00:37:26,999 --> 00:37:28,269
?

1126
00:37:28,269 --> 00:37:29,833
Most of this will probably be content from the public meeting

1127
00:37:29,833 --> 00:37:31,377
. I don't understand

1128
00:37:31,377 --> 00:37:32,782
. got it

1129
00:37:32,782 --> 00:37:32,983
.

1130
00:37:32,983 --> 00:37:34,926
Yeah. I wasn't

1131
00:37:34,926 --> 00:37:36,629
aware of how much impact AR would have on HR

1132
00:37:36,629 --> 00:37:43,269
. The

1133
00:37:43,269 --> 00:37:44,985
discussion will likely be at a high level

1134
00:37:44,985 --> 00:37:47,367
.

1135
00:37:47,367 --> 00:37:49,561
Yeah. This

1136
00:37:51,443 --> 00:37:53,505
applies to department heads and employees in general, but not to any specific employee.

1137
00:37:53,505 --> 00:37:55,595
Yeah.

1138
00:37:55,595 --> 00:38:04,979
That's absolutely true for certain employees. Yeah. We

1139
00:38:06,339 --> 00:38:07,727
need to verify that this place is being operated in the way it should be. That's

1140
00:38:07,727 --> 00:38:08,618
not the case.

1141
00:38:08,618 --> 00:38:10,653
Yeah. However, it reminds us that department heads should be responsible for running their own

1142
00:38:10,653 --> 00:38:12,596
departments, managing their employees,

1143
00:38:12,596 --> 00:38:16,643
their work, and prioritizing tasks

1144
00:38:18,748 --> 00:38:22,190
. Well, one of the challenges I've seen

1145
00:38:22,190 --> 00:38:25,747
since becoming an executive is that I do

1146
00:38:29,710 --> 00:38:31,691
n't think it's very appropriate for the board of directors to have a detailed control over every decision within each department

1147
00:38:31,691 --> 00:38:33,683
. They need to make decisions

1148
00:38:33,683 --> 00:38:35,519
, but they also need to explain why they made those decisions

1149
00:38:35,519 --> 00:38:37,354
, provide supporting evidence

1150
00:38:37,354 --> 00:38:39,189
, and submit reports

1151
00:38:39,189 --> 00:38:40,693
. And

1152
00:38:40,693 --> 00:38:43,562
when you talk about your shortcomings or your employees, you

1153
00:38:43,562 --> 00:38:46,147
need to talk to yourself, not to your employees.

1154
00:38:46,147 --> 00:38:47,255
Instead of complaining about your employees,

1155
00:38:47,255 --> 00:38:48,192
help them improve

1156
00:38:48,192 --> 00:38:49,493
. In

1157
00:38:49,493 --> 00:38:52,259
matters of that kind, and in general discussions, I

1158
00:38:56,464 --> 00:38:58,707
think it's necessary to remind department heads that they are responsible and that their subordinates should follow their instructions.

1159
00:38:58,707 --> 00:39:00,776
In other words, in reality, they're like parents

1160
00:39:00,776 --> 00:39:03,375
. We also need to explain that we

1161
00:39:03,375 --> 00:39:06,723
need to improve our management methods

1162
00:39:06,723 --> 00:39:08,532
. Each department has a

1163
00:39:08,532 --> 00:39:10,295
designated contact person.

1164
00:39:10,295 --> 00:39:11,953
Such issues

1165
00:39:11,953 --> 00:39:13,612
should be handled through the designated contact person

1166
00:39:13,612 --> 00:39:16,281
. A unified communication line is needed between this committee and the heads of each department

1167
00:39:17,951 --> 00:39:19,392
. It is unacceptable for the situation to arise where, even if you contact the liaison officer

1168
00:39:19,392 --> 00:39:20,526
, the officer then

1169
00:39:20,526 --> 00:39:21,487
contacts the committee, and you are

1170
00:39:21,487 --> 00:39:23,581
unable to obtain the necessary message

1171
00:39:23,581 --> 00:39:25,071
. The situation should not become one of complete confusion, such as when the father says no

1172
00:39:25,071 --> 00:39:27,963
, and then the child asks the mother

1173
00:39:29,466 --> 00:39:30,839
.

1174
00:39:30,839 --> 00:39:39,785
Yeah. That's especially true, absolutely. I'm not sure

1175
00:39:39,785 --> 00:39:43,141
how to include this on the agenda

1176
00:39:43,141 --> 00:39:45,591
, but I think it should be a

1177
00:39:49,875 --> 00:39:51,340
more open

1178
00:39:51,340 --> 00:39:52,693
discussion where, if you have questions about what the committee's expectations are and how they will be implemented, you should ask the committee

1179
00:39:52,693 --> 00:39:55,881
.

1180
00:39:55,881 --> 00:39:57,223
That sounds a little harsh

1181
00:39:57,223 --> 00:39:59,138
.

1182
00:39:59,138 --> 00:40:04,090
Well, that's about it.

1183
00:40:04,090 --> 00:40:06,664
Well, I

1184
00:40:06,664 --> 00:40:08,130
think that means we need to show our support

1185
00:40:08,130 --> 00:40:08,343
.

1186
00:40:08,343 --> 00:40:10,367
Why don't we

1187
00:40:12,137 --> 00:40:13,593
talk about overtime pools or tolls? Does it make sense

1188
00:40:13,593 --> 00:40:15,178
? Of course it does

1189
00:40:15,178 --> 00:40:17,444
.

1190
00:40:17,444 --> 00:40:20,368
Budget constraints.

1191
00:40:20,368 --> 00:40:21,986
Um, I'll write a review

1192
00:40:21,986 --> 00:40:23,604
.

1193
00:40:23,604 --> 00:40:25,565
Spending procedures, review process

1194
00:40:25,565 --> 00:40:26,022
.

1195
00:40:26,022 --> 00:40:27,422
Sorry about the rating.

1196
00:40:27,422 --> 00:40:28,398
ah. Ah,

1197
00:40:28,398 --> 00:40:31,954
yes. Of course

1198
00:40:31,954 --> 00:40:32,911
.

1199
00:40:32,911 --> 00:40:37,560
Um, employee evaluations. Please

1200
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:39,915
fill in the employee/department head evaluation

1201
00:40:39,915 --> 00:40:50,972
. The

1202
00:40:50,972 --> 00:40:52,553
town council adopted it many years ago

1203
00:40:52,553 --> 00:40:54,134
, so that's fine

1204
00:40:54,134 --> 00:40:54,630
.

1205
00:40:54,630 --> 00:40:57,745
So, at the last meeting, I told

1206
00:40:59,302 --> 00:41:00,960
them that we had a good discussion about it a few years ago when I was running it.

1207
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,804
Yes, there was a discussion about whether it was possible or not

1208
00:41:05,437 --> 00:41:05,581
.

1209
00:41:05,581 --> 00:41:07,173
So the

1210
00:41:07,173 --> 00:41:08,910
final argument about whether it was possible was

1211
00:41:08,910 --> 00:41:10,791
whether it would do so

1212
00:41:10,791 --> 00:41:13,440
.

1213
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:15,010
That's because

1214
00:41:15,010 --> 00:41:16,867
at the last departmental meeting, we discussed overtime

1215
00:41:16,867 --> 00:41:18,893
, expenses, performance evaluations

1216
00:41:18,893 --> 00:41:21,087
, and employee

1217
00:41:21,087 --> 00:41:23,113
evaluations

1218
00:41:23,113 --> 00:41:27,656
. In other words, it's a negative evaluation

1219
00:41:27,656 --> 00:41:30,144
. This evaluation system allows employees to say, "As a department head,

1220
00:41:30,144 --> 00:41:31,557
this was wrong, this was

1221
00:41:31,557 --> 00:41:32,861
wrong, and this was also

1222
00:41:32,861 --> 00:41:35,929
wrong." I

1223
00:41:35,929 --> 00:41:37,477
believe some of our employees are quite intelligent

1224
00:41:37,477 --> 00:41:39,154
, so I think it's important to have a two-way evaluation system

1225
00:41:39,154 --> 00:41:40,967
. That may be true

1226
00:41:40,967 --> 00:41:42,840
, but

1227
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:44,957
typically the process involves your boss

1228
00:41:44,957 --> 00:41:47,074
calling you in, having a conversation

1229
00:41:47,074 --> 00:41:49,029
, and then at the end asking, "Is there anything you'd like to talk about

1230
00:41:49,029 --> 00:41:51,123
?"

1231
00:41:51,123 --> 00:41:52,842
and you saying something like, "I

1232
00:41:52,842 --> 00:41:56,147
think you're a terrible boss."

1233
00:41:57,866 --> 00:42:01,572
However, I believe that employee evaluations of department heads can be done

1234
00:42:02,555 --> 00:42:04,748
privately. It may sound

1235
00:42:04,748 --> 00:42:06,529
strange, but a give-

1236
00:42:06,529 --> 00:42:08,245
and-take relationship is necessary when evaluating someone

1237
00:42:08,245 --> 00:42:09,765
. You shouldn't do that

1238
00:42:09,765 --> 00:42:09,973
.

1239
00:42:09,973 --> 00:42:11,744
absolutely. Let's

1240
00:42:11,744 --> 00:42:13,459
discuss that. There are several

1241
00:42:13,459 --> 00:42:14,803
things that need to be added to the agenda

1242
00:42:14,803 --> 00:42:16,518
. This seems to

1243
00:42:16,518 --> 00:42:18,130
me like a recipe for disaster

1244
00:42:18,130 --> 00:42:19,910
. I

1245
00:42:19,910 --> 00:42:23,814
love it. That is,

1246
00:42:27,339 --> 00:42:28,744
until someone claimed, "I gave an honest review of what he was doing and what was wrong," and 57 complaints were filed. And he

1247
00:42:28,744 --> 00:42:30,263
complies, but now he's

1248
00:42:30,263 --> 00:42:31,629
treated like a jerk, and well,

1249
00:42:31,629 --> 00:42:33,111
obviously, so, well

1250
00:42:33,111 --> 00:42:34,447
, it probably

1251
00:42:34,447 --> 00:42:35,993
won't come to us.

1252
00:42:35,993 --> 00:42:37,504
That's right. I think so.

1253
00:42:37,504 --> 00:42:38,995
And no, that's

1254
00:42:38,995 --> 00:42:40,527
not the case, yes, that's correct.

1255
00:42:40,527 --> 00:42:42,873
You told them to review their boss

1256
00:42:42,873 --> 00:42:43,178
.

1257
00:42:43,178 --> 00:42:45,245
No, I will review it

1258
00:42:45,245 --> 00:42:47,313
, but I won't share it directly

1259
00:42:47,313 --> 00:42:49,526
. They will come to the town council.

1260
00:42:49,526 --> 00:42:52,093
Yes, in the town council, it needs to be made very clear in that meeting that

1261
00:42:52,093 --> 00:42:53,429
if they have any issues or concerns regarding their leadership or anything else

1262
00:42:53,429 --> 00:42:55,997
, they should report it to the town council

1263
00:42:55,997 --> 00:42:57,227
.

1264
00:42:57,227 --> 00:42:58,780
Absolutely. that's right. that's right

1265
00:42:58,780 --> 00:43:00,376
. I

1266
00:43:00,376 --> 00:43:01,378
believe a process is necessary for that. An open

1267
00:43:01,378 --> 00:43:02,131
door is needed.

1268
00:43:02,131 --> 00:43:03,559
Yes, absolutely. So

1269
00:43:03,559 --> 00:43:04,184
, that's

1270
00:43:04,184 --> 00:43:05,221
fine, but the problem is that everyone is like,

1271
00:43:05,221 --> 00:43:07,361
"Oh, he said something." I

1272
00:43:07,361 --> 00:43:08,591
think something cumulative would be better

1273
00:43:08,591 --> 00:43:09,602
. I

1274
00:43:09,602 --> 00:43:10,847
think that's the key point. By

1275
00:43:10,847 --> 00:43:12,645
using it, we...

1276
00:43:12,745 --> 00:43:13,796
No, that was

1277
00:43:13,796 --> 00:43:14,786
n't what we intended to do. If they do that

1278
00:43:14,786 --> 00:43:16,190
,

1279
00:43:16,190 --> 00:43:17,711
they will report it to us

1280
00:43:17,711 --> 00:43:19,232
, and we will be given the ability to do so

1281
00:43:19,232 --> 00:43:19,684
.

1282
00:43:19,684 --> 00:43:21,489
That's absolutely right. that's right

1283
00:43:21,489 --> 00:43:22,739
.

1284
00:43:22,739 --> 00:43:24,950
That's the

1285
00:43:26,330 --> 00:43:27,853
point I sometimes hear from department heads: "Oh, that's happening because of so-and-so." got it

1286
00:43:27,853 --> 00:43:29,099
. Well, something must be done

1287
00:43:29,099 --> 00:43:30,416
. That's your

1288
00:43:30,416 --> 00:43:31,227
employee. that's right

1289
00:43:31,227 --> 00:43:31,920
.

1290
00:43:31,920 --> 00:43:32,875
That's where the problem lies, and if they do something

1291
00:43:32,875 --> 00:43:34,866
right, it will also give

1292
00:43:34,866 --> 00:43:36,858
us a reason to know how great your employees are

1293
00:43:36,858 --> 00:43:37,930
. My

1294
00:43:37,930 --> 00:43:40,972
sole objective was to find out where the disconnect lay

1295
00:43:40,972 --> 00:43:42,434
. got it. got it

1296
00:43:42,434 --> 00:43:45,371
. So, I will take some kind of

1297
00:43:45,371 --> 00:43:47,748
action.

1298
00:43:47,748 --> 00:43:49,400
It was a very positive meeting

1299
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:51,051
, not a conflict

1300
00:43:51,051 --> 00:43:53,959
. It's about teamwork

1301
00:43:53,959 --> 00:43:55,560
, showing the department heads that we

1302
00:43:55,560 --> 00:43:58,639
support them and that we'll help them run their departments

1303
00:43:58,639 --> 00:44:01,614
. Sometimes I

1304
00:44:02,950 --> 00:44:04,180
hear people say, "I've never been allowed to make such a decision."

1305
00:44:04,180 --> 00:44:06,551
Or, "I don't know if the town council will approve it

1306
00:44:06,551 --> 00:44:08,077
." Well, that's

1307
00:44:08,077 --> 00:44:09,398
your department, so

1308
00:44:09,398 --> 00:44:10,959
you'll need to manage it

1309
00:44:10,959 --> 00:44:12,671
. I think that message needs to be made widely known

1310
00:44:12,671 --> 00:44:14,449
. Am I

1311
00:44:14,449 --> 00:44:15,983
wrong?

1312
00:44:15,983 --> 00:44:17,393
What day is it today? It's the

1313
00:44:17,393 --> 00:44:18,540
9th, right?

1314
00:44:18,540 --> 00:44:19,295
9th.

1315
00:44:19,295 --> 00:44:20,809
So, are we going to do this?

1316
00:44:20,809 --> 00:44:21,990
Is this a workshop

1317
00:44:21,990 --> 00:44:22,181
?

1318
00:44:22,181 --> 00:44:24,044
How many days has it been already? no.

1319
00:44:24,044 --> 00:44:24,580
We

1320
00:44:24,580 --> 00:44:25,885
have an agenda item. There was another proposal

1321
00:44:25,885 --> 00:44:26,487
.

1322
00:44:26,487 --> 00:44:26,946
no.

1323
00:44:26,946 --> 00:44:27,801
That's what we're trying to figure out

1324
00:44:27,801 --> 00:44:28,828
. This

1325
00:44:28,828 --> 00:44:30,183
is a concern. It's very

1326
00:44:30,183 --> 00:44:30,895
slow.

1327
00:44:30,895 --> 00:44:32,397
Most of the employees are probably not here

1328
00:44:32,397 --> 00:44:33,076
.

1329
00:44:33,076 --> 00:44:35,762
Yeah. Please

1330
00:44:35,762 --> 00:44:37,413
tell them to consider it for another day and secure a location

1331
00:44:37,413 --> 00:44:39,185
. I

1332
00:44:39,185 --> 00:44:40,933
sent it two weeks ago.

1333
00:44:40,933 --> 00:44:42,879
Yes, it might be around 10:15

1334
00:44:42,879 --> 00:44:43,973
.

1335
00:44:43,973 --> 00:44:46,312
no. But on the last day,

1336
00:44:46,312 --> 00:44:47,911
oh yes. I won't do that

1337
00:44:47,911 --> 00:44:49,104
. Please don't worry about it

1338
00:44:49,104 --> 00:44:49,725
.

1339
00:44:49,725 --> 00:44:53,549
However, we need to notify them immediately not to schedule any meetings or other events

1340
00:44:53,549 --> 00:44:55,612
. I

1341
00:44:55,712 --> 00:44:56,627
know that was the case.

1342
00:44:56,627 --> 00:44:57,988
But nobody knew.

1343
00:44:57,988 --> 00:44:59,454
what was happening

1344
00:44:59,454 --> 00:45:01,387
. Um,

1345
00:45:01,387 --> 00:45:03,955
wait a moment. Yeah, I don't know

1346
00:45:03,955 --> 00:45:07,674
. Well, I don't want to do it on the 14th and

1347
00:45:07,674 --> 00:45:10,806
15th. Because I'm quite

1348
00:45:10,806 --> 00:45:13,141
busy. Well, it seems I was

1349
00:45:13,141 --> 00:45:15,296
completely free, but

1350
00:45:15,396 --> 00:45:17,176
then I went back. Is

1351
00:45:17,176 --> 00:45:18,700
n't that how that date came about

1352
00:45:18,700 --> 00:45:19,035
?

1353
00:45:19,035 --> 00:45:22,714
Yeah, but I don't know. I

1354
00:45:22,714 --> 00:45:23,759
think Tuesday morning, October 20th would be fine. I think

1355
00:45:23,759 --> 00:45:26,403
he said he'd be out for the entire month of October

1356
00:45:26,403 --> 00:45:26,607
. We couldn't hear anything

1357
00:45:26,607 --> 00:45:27,993
, but I

1358
00:45:27,993 --> 00:45:29,495
think that's why we were there

1359
00:45:29,495 --> 00:45:29,711
. Because it was

1360
00:45:29,711 --> 00:45:31,504
basically the only day of the month

1361
00:45:31,504 --> 00:45:34,773
. I'm thinking of

1362
00:45:34,773 --> 00:45:36,697
doing that

1363
00:45:36,697 --> 00:45:38,327
. Maybe we can

1364
00:45:38,327 --> 00:45:39,927
go back to that. I just

1365
00:45:39,927 --> 00:45:42,261
asked him, and he

1366
00:45:42,261 --> 00:45:44,413
said the internet connection is unstable. Understood. I wasn't sure if I

1367
00:45:44,413 --> 00:45:45,886
could connect

1368
00:45:45,886 --> 00:45:54,291
. That's why I released it a week and a

1369
00:45:54,291 --> 00:45:56,913
half ago.

1370
00:45:56,913 --> 00:46:05,640
That's all. If you guys

1371
00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:07,126
want to do it again a little later

1372
00:46:07,126 --> 00:46:07,598
.

1373
00:46:07,598 --> 00:46:09,323
Yeah. Okay, I can do that

1374
00:46:09,323 --> 00:46:13,250
. Now, let's move on

1375
00:46:13,250 --> 00:46:15,123
. What is this website? what

1376
00:46:15,123 --> 00:46:15,819
?

1377
00:46:15,819 --> 00:46:19,221
Before rescheduling, would you

1378
00:46:19,221 --> 00:46:21,038
like to confirm whether the department head will be able to attend? I

1379
00:46:21,038 --> 00:46:22,455
know two people, but I

1380
00:46:22,455 --> 00:46:24,329
think there are probably six in total

1381
00:46:24,329 --> 00:46:26,237
. What about

1382
00:46:26,237 --> 00:46:27,240
that night?

1383
00:46:27,240 --> 00:46:29,359
Yeah. I think both of them will be able to attend

1384
00:46:29,359 --> 00:46:34,416
.

1385
00:46:34,416 --> 00:46:35,948
From a human resources perspective, we would like Kelly

1386
00:46:35,948 --> 00:46:37,608
Ann to attend the meeting

1387
00:46:37,608 --> 00:46:40,335
. She acts as an intermediary

1388
00:46:40,335 --> 00:46:42,827
between employees, us, and former employees

1389
00:46:42,827 --> 00:46:45,335
. That's my

1390
00:46:45,335 --> 00:46:47,198
opinion. She wasn't here that day

1391
00:46:47,198 --> 00:46:50,815
.

1392
00:46:50,815 --> 00:46:53,704
ah.

1393
00:46:53,704 --> 00:46:55,197
She's just telling herself to listen

1394
00:46:55,197 --> 00:46:58,515
. This is being recorded, so I

1395
00:46:58,515 --> 00:47:01,511
think that's the reason.

1396
00:47:01,511 --> 00:47:04,284
In other words, in my opinion, the problem is that there are

1397
00:47:04,384 --> 00:47:06,351
always too many people between the employees and the town council

1398
00:47:06,351 --> 00:47:08,419
.

1399
00:47:08,419 --> 00:47:17,571
And that means it

1400
00:47:17,571 --> 00:47:19,928
needs to be included on the agenda. got it

1401
00:47:19,928 --> 00:47:22,417
.

1402
00:47:22,417 --> 00:47:24,375
When is the next department heads' meeting

1403
00:47:24,375 --> 00:47:26,329
? Is it the 20th or the 27th

1404
00:47:26,329 --> 00:47:27,775
? Is it the 3rd

1405
00:47:27,775 --> 00:47:29,751
or the 4th? It's the 4th

1406
00:47:29,751 --> 00:47:30,830
. I will go if I am asked to

1407
00:47:30,830 --> 00:47:32,051
.

1408
00:47:32,051 --> 00:47:32,803
Tuesday.

1409
00:47:32,803 --> 00:47:34,747
Ah, in that case it would be the 27th

1410
00:47:34,747 --> 00:47:40,422
. The

1411
00:47:40,422 --> 00:47:43,734
department heads' meeting is on October 27th at 9:30 AM

1412
00:47:43,734 --> 00:47:45,848
. If you would

1413
00:47:45,848 --> 00:47:47,038
like to use it, you

1414
00:47:47,038 --> 00:47:48,328
can do so. Okay

1415
00:47:48,328 --> 00:47:49,630
, let's put it on the tentative schedule for now

1416
00:47:49,630 --> 00:47:50,979
. Will he

1417
00:47:50,979 --> 00:47:51,943
attend? In

1418
00:47:51,943 --> 00:47:52,860
my case, I attended

1419
00:47:52,860 --> 00:47:53,778
, but I might not

1420
00:47:53,778 --> 00:47:54,443
.

1421
00:47:54,443 --> 00:47:56,436
In other words, he will ultimately tell us what we should do

1422
00:47:56,436 --> 00:47:57,692
. So, let's

1423
00:47:57,692 --> 00:47:59,036
hold that meeting today and proceed from there

1424
00:47:59,036 --> 00:48:00,474
. got it

1425
00:48:00,474 --> 00:48:03,512
. That's great. please

1426
00:48:03,512 --> 00:48:15,271
.

1427
00:48:15,271 --> 00:48:18,944
Website. got it. Now

1428
00:48:18,944 --> 00:48:19,204
, let's

1429
00:48:19,204 --> 00:48:20,880
move on to that.

1430
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,305
Website discussion. Regarding the

1431
00:48:22,305 --> 00:48:24,273
website discussion, I

1432
00:48:24,273 --> 00:48:29,198
spoke with the grant officer. Several

1433
00:48:29,198 --> 00:48:32,674
new requirements have emerged regarding ADA access to document apps

1434
00:48:32,674 --> 00:48:37,501
. You can start working on it early.

1435
00:48:37,501 --> 00:48:38,622
In short, I'm asking if we can get Ron

1436
00:48:38,622 --> 00:48:41,847
Stephen involved in this

1437
00:48:41,847 --> 00:48:43,529
, but this is his

1438
00:48:43,529 --> 00:48:45,352
area of ​​expertise, and we... don't want to

1439
00:48:45,352 --> 00:48:46,714
. What

1440
00:48:46,714 --> 00:48:48,205
troubled us about the requirements was that

1441
00:48:48,205 --> 00:48:49,351
,

1442
00:48:49,351 --> 00:48:50,498
regarding some of the decisions, we wondered, "Is this really a national

1443
00:48:50,498 --> 00:48:51,989
program?"

1444
00:48:51,989 --> 00:48:53,601
Yes, that's true, but

1445
00:48:53,601 --> 00:48:55,131
New York State is really

1446
00:48:55,131 --> 00:48:56,582
strict, and if you don't comply, you could face a $40,000

1447
00:48:56,582 --> 00:48:58,111
lawsuit

1448
00:48:58,111 --> 00:48:58,800
.

1449
00:48:58,800 --> 00:49:00,489
Yes, I signed it

1450
00:49:00,489 --> 00:49:00,849
.

1451
00:49:00,849 --> 00:49:01,253
yes. it's

1452
00:49:01,253 --> 00:49:03,269
okay. I was there just a few minutes

1453
00:49:03,269 --> 00:49:05,110
ago. I

1454
00:49:05,110 --> 00:49:08,669
signed it. Review of advisory committee

1455
00:49:08,669 --> 00:49:11,568
members.

1456
00:49:11,568 --> 00:49:13,500
Ah, the reason I put it there was to get

1457
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:15,358
everyone's confirmation beforehand

1458
00:49:15,358 --> 00:49:17,227
. I'm going back to work.

1459
00:49:17,227 --> 00:49:19,890
Yes, it's

1460
00:49:21,648 --> 00:49:23,067
time to get everyone's confirmation so that we can post after we've reorganized. got it

1461
00:49:23,067 --> 00:49:25,768
. They

1462
00:49:29,623 --> 00:49:31,588
said they would place an advertisement in September or October, and that a committee for reorganization would be prepared by December. got it.

1463
00:49:31,588 --> 00:49:33,129
Then, I will

1464
00:49:33,129 --> 00:49:34,951
email all the chairpersons to let them know who has a vacant seat

1465
00:49:34,951 --> 00:49:36,313
.

1466
00:49:36,313 --> 00:49:41,306
Before the next meeting, we will

1467
00:49:47,764 --> 00:49:52,207
confirm who wants to participate, who wants to participate as their term is ending, who does not want to participate, or who does not want to participate if there are vacancies.

1468
00:49:52,207 --> 00:49:53,172
That way, you

1469
00:49:53,172 --> 00:49:55,216
can do one thing. All at

1470
00:49:55,216 --> 00:50:04,194
once. Certified public accountants too. I

1471
00:50:04,194 --> 00:50:19,129
lost this page due to some technical issue. Understood. The

1472
00:50:19,129 --> 00:50:30,907
tournament has 302

1473
00:50:30,907 --> 00:50:37,068
participants. Understood. Okay. Is there

1474
00:50:37,068 --> 00:50:44,140
anything else at the public meeting?

1475
00:50:44,140 --> 00:50:48,584
He will be absent on the 14th and 27th. I will be here

1476
00:50:48,584 --> 00:50:51,076
at 9:30 AM on the 27th

1477
00:50:51,076 --> 00:50:51,767
.

1478
00:50:51,767 --> 00:50:53,126
Well, it says he's no longer alive

1479
00:50:53,126 --> 00:50:55,214
. Understood. I'm

1480
00:50:55,214 --> 00:50:57,414
leaving for Texas on October 26th

1481
00:50:57,414 --> 00:51:01,784
.

1482
00:51:01,784 --> 00:51:03,589
Anyway, let's talk to him and get to the

1483
00:51:03,589 --> 00:51:05,605
gist of what he has to say.

1484
00:51:05,605 --> 00:51:07,472
Yeah. All five of us are together

1485
00:51:07,472 --> 00:51:08,209
.

1486
00:51:08,209 --> 00:51:09,932
Okay. Now, I will submit a motion to enter into a closed-door meeting

1487
00:51:09,932 --> 00:51:12,366
.