[0:14] So, the other things are
[0:16] exactly the same as these, right?
[0:17] No, it's the same as the one in the general declaration
[0:19] . I do
[0:20] n't think it's a live performance right now,
[0:21] but I understand. got it
[0:23] . Do
[0:28] you know what the page number for the workshop is?
[0:33] Um, I think it's number 30. Is the
[0:35] number displayed now
[0:36] ?
[0:37] Yes, that's fine. got it
[0:38] . Regarding
[0:39] agenda item number 30, I think it's number 30
[0:40] . got it
[0:41] . I
[0:43] think number 29 was the other day. got it
[0:44] . The
[0:52] last one is number 30, so is Mr.
[1:05] Colmar there
[1:07] ?
[1:07] no. no. It might have
[1:09] zoomed in
[1:10] . No, I haven't. got it
[1:12] . Are you coming tonight
[1:14] ? He is in Colorado. Let's
[1:18] begin. He
[1:20] can zoom in, right? Are you
[1:21] ready? I don't understand
[1:23] . I could tell because
[1:23] he was definitely zooming in
[1:24] . got it
[1:26] .
[1:26] Now, I would like to call out the next town council
[1:28] workshop number
[1:29] .
[1:34] Please have the secretary make a note that all members of Congress except for Congressman Colmer are present.
[1:35] Senator Colmer is absent but
[1:38] may join via Zoom soon. Agenda item 1:
[1:42] Gender review. We need to find today's
[1:45] agenda.
[1:49] Please ask more questions verbally
[1:50] . Do you have any topics for this meeting
[1:56] ?
[1:58] yes. got it. It's still there
[2:00] . got it
[2:01] . I
[2:04] believe you have seen the agenda for the planning committee meeting. Both of these sections were
[2:08] referred to the public hearing at the same time
[2:10] .
[2:11] Yeah. So, will it remain open
[2:13] even after the planning committee meeting is over
[2:15] ? Once you
[2:17] receive the planning committee's recommendations
[2:18] , you can
[2:19] close it and do whatever you want
[2:20] .
[2:21] They want to hear
[2:22] comments from the general public before expressing their own opinions
[2:24] .
[2:25] Yeah. Please put that item from the planning committee on
[2:26] hold. Please send me
[2:33] that letter regarding working from home
[2:35] . First of all, I do
[2:38] n't think the planning committee has sent it back yet
[2:40] . That will remain on hold
[2:41] .
[2:42] They haven't held a meeting there since the last time
[2:43] . that's right
[2:44] . Therefore, it will remain on
[2:45] hold.
[2:46] And there is still a tax cap
[2:48] . Yeah.
[2:49] Now, we'll proceed from back to front
[2:51] . Well, there is still a tax cap
[2:53] . Well, we're running out of time
[2:54] . We can
[2:56] probably postpone it until one more meeting,
[2:58] but we're waiting to see what happens
[2:59] . Therefore, if you
[3:03] think the tax cap will exceed $1, you need to pass it
[3:05] . Well, if
[3:06] that is passed, you
[3:08] won't have to exceed the tax limit
[3:10] , but it's
[3:13] important to be prepared for the possibility that you might.
[3:15] Therefore, I'll leave it up to you all
[3:17] . Um, did you
[3:27] say that you wanted it done tonight or by November 20th?
[3:29] Well, I won't do it any earlier than that
[3:30] . I think it's either this meeting or the next one
[3:32] . I won't do it any later than that
[3:34] . So why?
[3:35] But theoretically
[3:37] , couldn't we do that when approving the budget
[3:40] ? That's what I did
[3:41] last year.
[3:42] Theoretically, it's possible. When I spoke with
[3:44] other municipalities I visited last November
[3:46] , I found that half of them had
[3:48] implemented their measures in July.
[3:50] In other words, it was within expectations.
[3:52] Yes, they
[3:53] prepare in advance if necessary to avoid any controversy
[3:55] .
[3:56] However, you are free to
[3:58] handle it however you wish
[4:00] . Carson Power, I
[4:03] understand, it's a collection of pearls
[4:05] . Are all the members of the zoning review
[4:14] committee, who were selected, really
[4:18] suitable? It's about the town council
[4:21] .
[4:22] In other words, it was a substitute
[4:24] .
[4:25] yes. Therefore, we will
[4:27] elevate the replacement to a position where they have voting rights. I would
[4:30] also like to add that we should approve the ads from the two alternatives
[4:34] . I
[4:36] agree with that. It's standard practice for
[4:40] us to bring in replacements to fill vacancies, so that's fine for the
[4:45] two replacements
[4:47] . got it
[4:51] .
[4:52] Can we skip the third one
[4:53] ? Is that a necessary measure
[4:55] ?
[4:55] Which one?
[4:56] Best
[4:58] proposed pricing for the best system. We are still
[5:00] considering it. Ah, we're still considering it
[5:01] . Ah, I understand
[5:03] . They say they will be posting an advertisement to recruit a replacement committee member for the ZBA
[5:04] .
[5:05] That's
[5:05] part of the agenda. It's on the agenda
[5:06] .
[5:07] Yeah. It's
[5:07] listed as a main topic
[5:08] .
[5:09] Yeah. agenda.
[5:09] That advertising section promotes someone
[5:11] and
[5:12] creates an appointment. Therefore,
[5:14] appointments will be made based on the vacancies. This
[5:15] is an advertisement. I'll take a look
[5:17] . I knew that was the case
[5:18] . Well,
[5:19] we are making dreams come true
[5:20] . They're doing a
[5:20] wonderful dance to the latest trends
[5:21] .
[5:22] no. No,
[5:23] but according to Bridget,
[5:25] the land lease agreement may
[5:26] need to be put on hold
[5:28] . It will
[5:29] probably need to be put on hold
[5:30] .
[5:31] Yeah.
[5:31] That's just
[5:32] yeah. perhaps. got it
[5:36] . Okay, I'd like to
[5:37] go back now. I
[5:38] apologize for getting the order reversed
[5:40] , but regarding the
[5:41] repair of that culvert, as we
[5:43] discussed at the last meeting, when I spoke
[5:45] with Mr. Sabita, he
[5:49] inquired with the company doing the work and found out that it's a
[5:52] company that handles both the work and the engineering, and that the engineering estimate we
[5:54] received was
[5:58] higher than the cost of their entire project
[6:00] . So,
[6:02] Sabita was trying to get a formal quote
[6:03] . got it
[6:04] .
[6:05] So, what do you think?
[6:07] What are you going to do? I don't know whether to put it on hold or what to do
[6:11] . But I think it's best to
[6:13] wait and see what other people suggest
[6:15] . It was
[6:19] rejected last time. What do you mean by changing the date and bringing it back
[6:21] to the agenda
[6:23] ? Did
[6:24] he just change his words slightly
[6:25] ? Oh well, never mind.
[6:28] Oh well.
[6:29] He simply erased the date and
[6:30] wrote a new one. got it
[6:32] .
[6:34] What do you mean? what? what
[6:37] ? I don't think
[6:38] he'll get away with it that way
[6:39] . Because even then, it still
[6:40] falls below the procurement threshold
[6:41] . But that's how it is
[6:42] . Therefore, I
[6:46] think that would be cheaper than the entire design work required for the entire project.
[6:47] Yes, that's what I wanted to say
[6:48] . It works precisely because it's much
[6:49] cheaper than the procurement threshold
[6:51] . If you want to put it up for tender or follow procurement policies
[6:52] , you'll end up
[6:54] in the $6,500 range, but
[6:56] yeah. We simply
[6:58] put it on the agenda, rejected it, and
[7:00] then put it back on the agenda
[7:02] .
[7:08] If there's a possibility of getting the job done more cheaply and completely than the design work, I'd like to pause until I get something written about it
[7:11] .
[7:18] If other companies can do the design and construction for $6,500, I don't understand at all why town officials can't do it for just the cost of materials
[7:22] , but I asked
[7:24] this question today.
[7:29] If someone can do it that cheaply, then it's obviously impossible to
[7:31] explain why it doesn't require much specialized knowledge
[7:33] . I
[7:35] spoke to Bob, and his
[7:37] license doesn't cover this structural issue
[7:39] . that's right
[7:41] . Therefore,
[7:42] he cannot sign this.
[7:44] He doesn't want to put his license on this
[7:45] . So I
[7:47] asked about other pipes
[7:48] . I am trying to learn how they staff their operations
[7:52] and whether an
[7:53] operational issue like replacing water pipes is
[7:57] different from supporting a structure
[8:00] .
[8:02] Final approval of a new product
[8:07] absolutely requires the signature of a PE (Primary Engineer) with experience in structural engineering.
[8:09] So, whether it's done this way or by a
[8:14] company that does it statewide as if they have a system in place
[8:15] , and whether
[8:17] these pinhole breaks we saw in the photos are a
[8:18] fairly common
[8:19] occurrence, I think.
[8:20] And I'm
[8:22] certain that this isn't the first time they've seen it
[8:23] . So, I think it's
[8:25] worth seeing what they offer
[8:26] . It seems it was yellow, not red
[8:29] .
[8:31] Yeah. So, it's
[8:33] not that urgent. So, let's see if we
[8:34] can save money by taking our time
[8:36] . My opinion
[8:38] .
[8:38] I agree with that opinion. Understood. I
[8:44] have a few more, but is this the
[8:46] end? sorry. It's still on the
[8:48] agenda. I
[8:50] sent you an item yesterday. I
[8:52] made two tweets and
[8:55] printed them out so everyone could have a hard copy.
[8:59] Well, this is just my opinion. The
[9:08] tweet I created suggested considering the
[9:10] inclusion of an architectural review committee
[9:12] . Okay, that's the first one
[9:16] .
[9:21] Complete the complete set of agenda materials before submitting them to the planning committee
[9:23] , and begin the committee's new
[9:25] timeline. That's the other
[9:27] tweet. Instead of people thinking of this
[9:31] entire 30-day process as a timeline, we tried to bring
[9:35] everything together in one place
[9:40] . I have
[9:44] included the best possible legislation in the ongoing pre-application meeting
[9:46] . So,
[9:56] one of the things that came up in a recent committee meeting about zoning re-zoning, zoning reform, or whatever you call it, was to
[10:02] hold pre-application meetings to find out what people are facing and what zoning is
[10:04] . Typically, this should be done with the
[10:07] supervisor, the engineering code
[10:09] enforcer, and, if necessary
[10:11] ,
[10:11] other relevant individuals
[10:12] . Yes, that's right
[10:14] . I
[10:15] chaired the planning committee, and
[10:16] if other town committees were needed
[10:18] , I did so.
[10:19] I attended several times.
[10:21] So, I've included it here to make it part of this process
[10:24] , but
[10:26] one thing that came up regarding zoning is that, in the best-case
[10:28] scenario, there will be a fee
[10:29] .
[10:31] $200, please do not quote it
[10:33] . Therefore, in some cases,
[10:44] there is an argument that if someone is just thinking about the project, it might keep attracting this many people, and it may be necessary to consider applying a fee
[10:48] .
[10:49] Yeah.
[10:49] In other words, if someone isn't completely serious
[10:51] , the staff won't get
[10:53] involved. Therefore,
[10:56] I included there the best-case rule that an application fee applies
[10:58] ,
[11:00] and the rule that the possible
[11:02] schedule may reflect the fee
[11:08] . got it
[11:10] . I
[11:18] think they have some regular customers who have great ideas and don't want to stop them, but I've come back to
[11:23] that room several times before leaving to cover these three or four things within my time
[11:25] .
[11:27] That's because they were trying to fit it within the frame
[11:30] . Therefore, I don't want to disappoint you
[11:32] .
[11:34] Because I think that once they
[11:35] leave that arena and
[11:37] go to a bigger arena, the time will become
[11:39] really difficult
[11:41] . That doesn't mean it's wrong
[11:43] .
[11:45] Well, I do
[11:46] n't
[11:48] think I want to prevent people from doing that. Because I think that by doing so
[11:50] , I can leave the room feeling at least 75%
[11:53] ready
[11:55] .
[11:57] Then, everyone looks at the remaining boards and
[11:59] places an additional ground top. It would
[12:01] take an enormous amount of time, so I don't want to
[12:03] discourage people from doing it
[12:05] . Going back and forth, going back and forth
[12:06] . I
[12:07] agree with that. In particular,
[12:09] this matter
[12:10] concerns one specific project
[12:11] . The topics that came up in the conversation were
[12:13] this week's project, and this week's
[12:16] project. And I'm not saying that we
[12:17] need to address that
[12:20] . I think that's a minority opinion
[12:22] . I'm simply pointing out that
[12:24] I wrote there that the best law is mandatory fees
[12:28] .
[12:28] Yeah. got it. In
[12:29] my opinion, the
[12:31] best law is a mandatory fee that requires an application
[12:33] .
[12:33] Prior application is required. that's right
[12:35] . The pre-application will be
[12:37] submitted for the entire group.
[12:39] no.
[12:39] that's not correct
[12:41] .
[12:41] That requires prior application.
[12:46] Apparently, the employees who are on paid leave are... well,
[12:48] yes.
[12:50] In other words, we want to avoid wasting time on things that volunteers cannot accomplish
[12:55] . At
[12:56] the very least, as you said
[12:58] ,
[12:59] those who are paid to be here see it as
[13:10] pointless to waste other committee time on a project that hasn't been formally submitted to the county until they've received feedback at a ready stage, that is, until it reaches that stage.
[13:13] Therefore, I think the best pre-application process will cost
[13:15] $200 in fees
[13:17] . Don't you have any?
[13:20] Or will there be a fee
[13:22] ? I phrased it
[13:24] this
[13:25] way because I thought there would be a fee involved.
[13:27] The fees for the relevant pre-application meeting will
[13:31] be charged according to the fee schedule adopted by the town. Yes
[13:33] , it can be deleted.
[13:34] Well, I was just trying to
[13:37] make sure that it covered everything that will be needed in the future
[13:39] . However, that includes the town supervisor
[13:41] of building standards enforcement engineering
[13:43] ,
[13:45] town council members if necessary, the
[13:46] chair or nominee of the planning committee, the applicant,
[13:48] or other town
[13:50] officials or consultants assisting the town
[13:52] .
[13:52] Yeah.
[13:53] That's for the pre-application meeting
[13:55] , the same one we attended just a month ago
[13:58] . It wasn't Best Law
[14:00] , but I participated in that as well
[14:02] .
[14:02] Yeah.
[14:02] And that was exactly it
[14:04] . Well, this person is
[14:08] simply pointing out the changes made from the original draft.
[14:09] Yeah. Hey, are you watching at that time
[14:16] ?
[14:18] I don't remember, but I think it was on the
[14:20] agenda from Ron to FC
[14:22] .
[14:23] That would involve setting an application fee
[14:25] . that's right
[14:25] .
[14:34] So, I don't know if that's the case
[14:35] . Well, I might have
[14:42] misunderstood that part
[14:43] .
[14:44] That's just, oh, that,
[14:45] yes, that's not it.
[14:47] But I agree with you.
[14:49] Well, we don't want to prevent people from coming and figuring
[14:50] things out in advance
[14:52] .
[14:54] Yeah.
[14:54] Well, and I don't think that was negative
[14:56] .
[14:57] At least once a week.
[14:59] But at
[15:00] least. And, well, it happened once a
[15:02] week in some of my areas
[15:03] . I
[15:06] said, "This probably won't work," and then I asked, "Will this, this work
[15:07] ?"
[15:08] And when that
[15:11] becomes a smell test for me, I
[15:12] gather a small group and say, "Okay, let's have the
[15:13] zoning and
[15:13] engineering people do a
[15:15] smell test
[15:16] ." Well, that's working
[15:18] quite well. got it
[15:19] .
[15:20] And I will delete this
[15:22] . Well, let me repeat
[15:23] , this is not a law
[15:24] . These are the steps.
[15:25] Yes, you can leave it there
[15:26] . You can keep it
[15:27] . Here are
[15:28] the steps. And it says that they were hired
[15:29] .
[15:30] Therefore, if you decide not to adopt one of them
[15:31] , that's perfectly fine.
[15:32] And if we were to adopt one
[15:34] ,
[15:34] well.
[15:34] If something becomes an abuse,
[15:36] well, as long as we're shifting towards it
[15:37] , that's fine
[15:39] . Well, let me repeat
[15:40] , this is a procedure,
[15:42] not a law. And I have no
[15:43] objection to having procedures
[15:45] . Building a one-stop
[15:47] shop or a one-size-
[15:49] fits-all store is
[15:50] quite difficult, so this
[15:52] entire process will be automated
[15:54] . What worries me a little is that there are some pretty
[15:59] grim figures regarding it
[16:01] . And the number is 20%
[16:04] . 20% can be a lot
[16:08] , or it can mean nothing at all
[16:11] . And another point is that when we talk about
[16:13] major and minor subdivisions
[16:15] , attention tends to focus on those
[16:17] . And what
[16:19] I ultimately fear is that people will come up with
[16:21] fragmented plans and
[16:28] start saying, "Okay, let's separate two lots. And separate two lots. And separate two lots
[16:29] ." And
[16:31] with the first two batches I mentioned, we didn't
[16:32] actually see the whole picture
[16:33] . And so, I am
[16:34] working on this small project
[16:35] . And I'm
[16:37] working on another small project
[16:38] . And because someone is trying to
[16:39] circumvent this system
[16:40] , I'm
[16:41] working on yet another small project
[16:42] . And that is
[16:44] probably my biggest concern
[16:46] . There's nothing wrong with having the process and controls
[16:49] , but it's practically known to be an unbuildable mousetrap
[16:53] . This will definitely be
[16:55] very helpful. However, I
[16:58] think we need to be a little careful about a few points
[16:59] . Because it
[17:02] could trigger different actions that we do not want
[17:03] . I
[17:03] agree. So, first, I tried to
[17:07] define what was important and what was central. got it
[17:10] .
[17:11] In other words, 20% is a
[17:12] figure used by the planning committee,
[17:14] so that's where it came from
[17:15] .
[17:16] Yeah. So I
[17:17] put it here
[17:19] , but it's just one of many lines
[17:20] .
[17:21] Yes, that's right. No, I saw it
[17:23] . I saw it.
[17:24] But that's something we get to decide, isn't it
[17:26] ? Is it a minor
[17:28] change, or a significant
[17:30] change? Can we go back and use the 20%
[17:31] figure again?
[17:33] However, as you pointed out
[17:34] , it would be difficult to quantify exactly what that 20% represents
[17:36] . I agree.
[17:38] In other words, theoretically, consider a residential development of 100 houses
[17:41] . This is a bad example
[17:42] , but a housing development of 100 homes is
[17:44] 15 homes less than 20%
[17:46] . Well, it will probably
[17:47] cause traffic congestion and lead to large-scale
[17:49] residential development.
[17:50] As you know, there are various kinds
[17:52] . What I don't understand are the
[17:54] impact and changes on large-scale infrastructure
[17:55] , and the scope of the large-scale project
[17:57] . That's
[17:58] right. Alternatively, the
[18:00] bottom one could simply be that the architecture or
[18:01] engineering department says it
[18:03] needs to be moved back here, or that the
[18:04] town council says so
[18:06] . I
[18:07] think there are a lot of pitfalls here
[18:09] .
[18:09] Yes, there are many pitfalls
[18:10] . Indeed, it's shoot
[18:14] and ladder. I just
[18:16] , just, just, um, I
[18:18] understand. The routine has been
[18:23] changed due to significant revisions decided by the town council
[18:25] . Yeah.
[18:27] However, this
[18:30] only takes trends, as it can encompass important revisions.
[18:32] Therefore,
[18:34] writing something that works is an impossible task
[18:35] , and I know that. You can
[18:37] get 80%, but you can never get 100%
[18:38] .
[18:40] So, again,
[18:42] these are the steps we can change
[18:43] .
[18:44] No, we can say that we omit this in this situation
[18:47] . We will move forward in this
[18:48] way. So, you
[18:50] can do that too.
[18:51] That is not a law.
[18:52] So, if 20% are causing some emotional
[18:53] distress
[18:54] , why not do it?
[18:55] No, I don't feel any emotional pain
[18:56] . No, it's
[18:57] not emotional pain.
[18:58] That's the wrong word.
[18:59] Yeah. If you
[19:03] consider it as opening a door that either opens or doesn't open a particular door.
[19:04] yes.
[19:04] And they're
[19:05] afraid that others won't be able to grasp it
[19:06] . You just
[19:07] need to remove it.
[19:08] Therefore, I
[19:09] think that's generally the case. Well, I've
[19:11] simulated a few scenarios
[19:12] , and I can
[19:13] circumvent the law in several different ways
[19:15] , but that doesn't mean everyone will do that
[19:17] , you know? Let's try
[19:18] removing it
[19:19] . There is no such thing as a
[19:20] perfect mousetrap
[19:22] . My biggest concern was that it would
[19:23] encourage the work to become more fragmented
[19:24] . In other words,
[19:26] people come in and don't
[19:27] tell us the whole picture; we
[19:28] see a small part of the whole, and
[19:29] then we
[19:30] see a lot of smaller parts of the whole
[19:31] . That was my
[19:33] biggest concern. The concern is that this could
[19:34] encourage such behavior
[19:37] . However, I think we can probably
[19:38] ask frankly
[19:40] . Is there anything more to this
[19:41] ?
[19:42] In other words, this is our procedure
[19:43] . Therefore, I don't
[19:44] like the fragmented approach
[19:45] .
[19:46] Most
[19:46] developers will likely find that while their first
[19:47] project might be easy to complete
[19:49] , it
[19:50] negatively impacts subsequent projects
[19:52] and leads to far more problems later on
[19:54] . That's right. that's right
[19:55] .
[19:56] And again,
[19:57] this is our internal
[19:58] operation.
[19:58] Yes, and I repeat, this is not a
[20:00] law. It's
[20:01] just a procedure. Therefore, it
[20:04] gives clarity and direction to the process. So, let's start by
[20:07] supporting that
[20:09] . Then, let's
[20:09] observe it and see how it functions in the real world
[20:12] .
[20:13] If any problems are found, we will make changes.
[20:14] That's all. To
[20:15] reiterate, 20% is a
[20:18] figure used by the architecture, or rather, the planning committee.
[20:20] So let's delete it and make it possible for
[20:21] us to do it
[20:22] . My question about that is
[20:24] , who decides what 20% to be?
[20:26] I'm just
[20:26] saying that was their feedback
[20:27] . Those are the
[20:29] numbers they use.
[20:30] Yeah. No matter
[20:31] how you express it, no matter
[20:32] what numbers you use,
[20:34] yes.
[20:34] Someone has to make a decision and
[20:35] pull the trigger.
[20:37] That's right. So,
[20:38] that's all. I thought it was still a little bit, around
[20:40] 5%, but then I got
[20:42] yelled at for saying it was more than 5%, so things are
[20:44] moving in the opposite direction too. Some
[20:48] parts should be divided using the dotted line rule, but in any case
[20:50] , they will remain as they are
[20:51] . I
[20:54] think this is a step in the right direction. Furthermore, make sure you understand
[20:56] what is needed for the planning committee's materials and
[21:00] how all that information will be compiled
[21:03] . yes.
[21:05] And there is a structure and a
[21:07] path to it. yes.
[21:14] Well, if you want to create a
[21:15] B schedule that includes a pre-briefing meeting
[21:17] , that's fine
[21:18] . However, I have no intention of discontinuing small-table
[21:19] meetings
[21:20] .
[21:21] No, I'm not saying I want to quit
[21:22] .
[21:25] When I was attending a zoning reform meeting, the
[21:29] topic came up that this procedure might not be the standard, but could become the norm
[21:31] . And that's why we're here to
[21:32] support and build our community
[21:35] .
[21:35] yes.
[21:36] But when that came up, it
[21:41] gave us comprehensive coverage in case we encountered abusive situations. I tried to think
[21:43] beyond what I had seen over the past six years
[21:45] .
[21:47] Yeah. got it. Should we
[21:50] review or
[21:51] remove the 20%? I
[21:54] told them to leave it as is, try it a few times, and see what happens
[21:55] . And if changes are necessary, we will make them
[21:57] . That's all
[21:58] . Well, there are
[22:01] many other things we need to focus on here. There
[22:03] are many problems. This
[22:04] is a major problem. Yeah. There
[22:05] are many problems. it's
[22:07] okay. Should we hire them tonight
[22:08] , or send them tomorrow
[22:10] ? They've been around everywhere
[22:10] since January
[22:11] .
[22:12] This is just a procedure. It's
[22:14] not actually a law.
[22:15] If you don't mind, I'd like to make a few
[22:16] comments.
[22:17] yes. Um, Peter, should we
[22:19] save that for the board
[22:20] , or should we discuss it now
[22:22] ?
[22:22] That would probably be better
[22:24] .
[22:24] Should I wait?
[22:25] Yes. got it. got it
[22:27] .
[22:27] Well, I'm going back and forth here
[22:29] . It's still on the agenda
[22:30] . Is that all for the agenda
[22:31] ? That's all I had
[22:32] . This should be the end
[22:34] . got it. Let's wrap up the
[22:37] agenda while the advisory committee reviews the matter
[22:39] . Do you have any updates?
[22:41] Yes, we're still going around in circles about the tree
[22:43] . I
[22:46] think they made changes. I
[22:50] believe we've returned to the agenda of the planning committee.
[22:51] yes. So let's see
[22:53] what happens.
[22:55] Aside from that, the topics of transportation and history have not been
[22:57] discussed since the last meeting
[22:59] . That's all.
[23:01] If you have any concerns regarding transportation
[23:02] , I would like to let you know after the meeting
[23:04] . Please allow me to explain after the meeting
[23:06] . Okay
[23:07] ? Let's
[23:08] talk about it separately.
[23:09] Perhaps we can move it forward
[23:11] . Ron, is there anything
[23:12] ?
[23:12] Yes.
[23:14] Regarding the community, I was reading something about it here
[23:16] . EDAB held a
[23:18] meeting. They are making
[23:20] minor adjustments for calendars and other projects
[23:22] , but the
[23:23] art project is complete
[23:24] . So, he wants to give a presentation about the check at the next town council meeting
[23:28] . Please prepare a check
[23:32] . Since it's included in the budget
[23:34] , we'll set aside some money to prepare what we need
[23:37] . It would be great if we could do that at the 8 o'clock
[23:38] meeting
[23:40] .
[23:43] Take several photos of each item so they can be displayed on the smartboard.
[23:44] That way everyone can understand
[23:46] . If they share their screen, it will be recorded
[23:49] , and they
[23:50] expect the article to be published the week before
[23:52] . So, if you have that photo
[23:54] , you can give a short
[23:56] presentation or something and
[23:57] share your screen. got it
[23:59] .
[24:00] Karen wants a W-9
[24:01] .
[24:02] yes. It's
[24:03] not $600, but they still seem to
[24:04] want it.
[24:05] Yeah.
[24:06] Justin said so
[24:07] . Okay, let's proceed
[24:08] . As I
[24:10] mentioned earlier, the
[24:11] Zoning Reform Committee has held a meeting and is
[24:15] almost ready to present its presentation.
[24:17] They asked Ron to help, and I'm
[24:18] meeting with him today to
[24:20] fine-tune and clarify a few points
[24:22] , and then I'll give the
[24:23] presentation
[24:25] . I suggested doing this at the beginning of the workshop
[24:27] . Is that
[24:30] alright with you all
[24:31] ? I'm thinking probably November, maybe the
[24:33] first week of November.
[24:36] However, we will confirm that it is on the agenda
[24:37] ,
[24:38] how much time they will need
[24:39] , and whether we need to start a little earlier
[24:42] . got it.
[24:43] No problem. That's all.
[24:45] Tom.
[24:46] Um, parks and
[24:47] recreation. The
[24:50] two real problems they had were
[24:52] , as mentioned in one of the emails Sam sent
[24:54] , that they
[24:56] wanted to know as much detail as we had
[25:01] . Otherwise
[25:03] , they wanted the recreation fee to be
[25:06] approved by the town while it was actually being collected, and they wanted to implement
[25:08] policies to ensure it was properly tracked
[25:11] . At least since you became a board member
[25:14] , which is probably around the time
[25:15] we started collecting them
[25:17] , you've made it
[25:18] part of the motion, and they do
[25:19] n't mean that, as
[25:20] I understand it, the
[25:22] building permit won't be granted until the recreation fees are paid
[25:23] .
[25:25] Yes, or perhaps there's
[25:26] another
[25:28] agreement or arrangement that they get whatever percentage they want
[25:29] ? that's right
[25:30] . So they
[25:35] said they wanted more information about how we are doing to ensure we pay them. Well
[25:37] , I can't
[25:39] talk about how things were working before I came here, but since I've been here
[25:40] , I've been pretty assertive
[25:41] .
[25:42] So, yeah.
[25:43] That was their opinion.
[25:45] They voted to advise us to hire someone to investigate
[25:48] this identification and collection
[25:49] process to ensure that the money is being collected completely and promptly
[25:52] . got it
[25:55] .
[25:55] Then, the only other
[25:57] thing they had was information about the kayak launching and landing area
[25:59] .
[26:00] In other words,
[26:02] they should propose it when we hold these preliminary meetings
[26:03] .
[26:07] So, if the land readjustment project is
[26:09] deemed approved,
[26:12] how will they ensure they receive their payments
[26:13] ? As I
[26:15] mentioned earlier, every time I've
[26:16] approved a land readjustment project since coming here, I've
[26:19] usually made a
[26:20] recreation fee a condition when submitting the approval motion
[26:22] . And they may
[26:25] know they have to pay, but
[26:26] how?
[26:28] If recreation fees are a condition, how would they
[26:29] find out? For example
[26:31] , I was
[26:34] discussing that topic at another meeting, and I
[26:36] believe it was the same person who created it
[26:38] .
[26:39] The conditions are also important. Therefore,
[26:43] when a proposal like the one submitted from now on is approved, the resolution will
[26:49] state, "The town council approves the XYZ project under the following conditions," and the
[26:51] conditions stated in the resolution will be
[26:53] indicated. Would it be
[27:01] appropriate to clearly state that recreation fees apply and then apply the calculation formula to the total amount?
[27:05] So, does that mean it will be
[27:05] included in the resolution
[27:07] ? These aren't
[27:08] specific numbers
[27:10] , but frankly speaking, it depends on the situation,
[27:11] but you just
[27:13] change the numbers. You will pay recreation fees
[27:15] from the time of approval until you obtain a building permit
[27:18] . In other words,
[27:19] even if approval is granted in the first year, what do you think will happen if you don't
[27:20] obtain a building permit by the third year and the
[27:21] recreation fees
[27:22] increase
[27:24] ? You will end up
[27:27] paying the recreation fees for the third year, not the first year.
[27:29] So,
[27:31] instead of a recreation fee, do they do it occasionally
[27:33] ? I've been asked about that
[27:34] .
[27:35] We have negotiated specific components in various places
[27:39] . Because that's what
[27:41] they wanted to do
[27:43] . This was the
[27:44] last
[27:45] thing Radisson did.
[27:45] Yes, they provided recreational components that benefited the townspeople
[27:50] . Also, some of them
[27:51] exploded on our faces
[27:52] .
[27:53] Yeah. I've
[27:54] included that, and I'm
[27:56] asking this because I haven't yet participated in that process
[27:58] . Do they list the
[27:59] dollar amount for that recreation
[28:00] ?
[28:02] No, they do.
[28:03] So, will it be included in the resolution
[28:05] ? Let's say, after five years,
[28:06] nothing is done and then they say, "No, we do
[28:08] n't want to build a fountain." Is
[28:16] there a fee I would need to pay to get reapproval if I want to change the plan? yes.
[28:18] Therefore, if you do not take the specific
[28:19] pre-emptive measures we implement
[28:21] , you will also be charged an agency fee
[28:22] . yes. yes. got it
[28:24] . That's something we should
[28:25] consider. The
[28:26] only thing they added was a
[28:28] kayak launching/returning area.
[28:30] They were presented with Greenway's perspective and wanted to
[28:34] confirm that a joint application had been submitted
[28:35] . I
[28:37] sent emails to Chris and Bob, and they
[28:39] informed me that they had been sent.
[28:42] yes. got it. got it
[28:47] . Well, I saw the planning committee
[28:49] , and obviously the planning committee
[28:50] . So, well
[28:52] , they are planning to meet again soon
[28:54] . got it
[28:56] . The advisory committee's review is
[28:57] complete. Code execution
[28:59] is a proposed fee for the BAS system
[29:01] . Well, Ron
[29:04] sent us a letter. Um, is
[29:07] this something that was researched
[29:09] , or is it simply a
[29:11] number we're applying
[29:13] ?
[29:14] We think that's a cool number
[29:15] . I don't know how he came up with that idea
[29:18] .
[29:19] I don't know either. I don't understand
[29:20] . I don't know if that's appropriate or inappropriate
[29:22] . It might be
[29:23] lower
[29:24] , or it might be higher
[29:25] . I don't understand.
[29:27] I looked up some things about the town on Google, and it's
[29:29] simply amazing
[29:30] . I
[29:31] agree. Yeah.
[29:32] And I don't know what that means
[29:33] .
[29:35] In other words, he says, "I don't
[29:37] object." However, I don't know the
[29:39] size of the solar panel
[29:40] .
[29:41] Yeah. It's not a
[29:42] big deal.
[29:43] I just wanted to see what was there
[29:45] . Was it $1,500? I don't understand
[29:48] . It was around $1,500
[29:49] . A 5-
[29:50] megawatt solar
[29:52] system requires a $1,500
[29:53] application fee. This
[29:56] corresponds to Tier 2. I don't know why he
[30:01] went.
[30:03] Since it's a new technology, it might be
[30:05] difficult to find information about it
[30:07] .
[30:08] Well, solar power generation isn't all that
[30:09] new.
[30:10] No, I meant
[30:11] BAS. So, what I would
[30:14] say is,
[30:16] send this back to him and ask, "Does this match the other towns
[30:18] ?" I don't know
[30:22] . I'll
[30:22] check with Bridget as well.
[30:24] She definitely knows.
[30:25] Bridget, is this correct
[30:26] ? If so, we will add it
[30:27] to the agenda for the next meeting
[30:29] . Does this make sense
[30:30] ? I don't understand what you mean
[30:31] .
[30:32] As long as there is some basis for this, is the end of it.
[30:34] However, in my opinion, those are
[30:36] simply arbitrary numbers. The BAS
[30:40] Act does not specify an application fee
[30:42] . They have
[30:45] nothing to pay, especially usage
[30:47] fees, site plan review fees, and
[30:49] building permit fees. I think what
[30:51] he's actually talking about here is the
[30:52] building permit fee
[30:54] . I'm not sure how much I should charge for the site plan application fee
[30:57] . Because
[30:58] they have to deposit $50,000 in escrow, which they will use to pay the consultant who will review the site plan
[31:04] . That should probably be
[31:06] enough. I
[31:10] know they considered our feelings when it came to that amount. got it
[31:12] .
[31:15] However, if we were to introduce another fee
[31:16] , namely a
[31:18] consultant fee
[31:20] , this would obviously only cover the cost of using an
[31:22] external organization to review the site plan,
[31:26] but would also incur costs related to our in-house staff
[31:28] . To
[31:30] put it very simply,
[31:32] when doing this informally with everyone, it's like
[31:34] turning the key to a bulldozer
[31:35] . In other words,
[31:37] things start moving, and it
[31:39] costs money. So, you
[31:42] want to incorporate both a separate fee and an escrow account?
[31:43] That's something we can probably consider now or next week
[31:47] . got it
[31:47] . It may be
[31:55] worthwhile to gather things that can help offset costs, not just to avoid incurring additional expenses.
[31:57] Yeah. It's
[31:59] great that it functions that way.
[32:00] Yeah. got it. Let's
[32:02] consider this. Um,
[32:05] who's going to take this to the round
[32:06] ? Should I bring it with me on the round
[32:08] ? I think I'll take it
[32:12] . I'll
[32:17] also send an email to Bridget
[32:19] .
[32:19] Yes, please do. That's
[32:23] great. Since ZVL came around
[32:25] , I think they probably considered a
[32:27] proposal to lease town land for a bus system
[32:29] . Well
[32:32] , I'll put that on hold.
[32:38] Office Space: We will discuss new
[32:41] office spaces for lawyers
[32:42] . Did
[32:44] Dan pick it up
[32:46] ? I think that was his entry, right
[32:48] ?
[32:50] Yes, no. This
[32:53] eliminates the fact that no one is needed in the waiting room. I
[32:54] previously
[32:55] used Kelly Ann's space
[32:56] , but
[32:58] I am
[32:59] aware that there was some discussion about it. If necessary
[33:01] , let me add a few more points
[33:03] . Well, the entire city hall
[33:06] considered several options. The
[33:09] only available
[33:11] area that was actually considered as a possibility was to somehow rearrange the accounting space
[33:14] . Well, it was Jim's
[33:18] suggestion, and I couldn't
[33:20] picture it in my head, so I had to go and see it in
[33:22] person, but,
[33:23] well,
[33:25] this is Colleen's office,
[33:27] so it's a little tricky, but there's a
[33:28] space like this, and
[33:30] this is Colleen's office
[33:32] . There's a door inside
[33:38] , but her office juts out into the corridor like
[33:39] this.
[33:42] So Jimmy suggested
[33:44] moving the door to the outside hallway so that he wouldn't be in the
[33:45] way when coming in and out of the space
[33:48] .
[33:54] People can enter and exit the lawyer's office, and their
[33:56] privacy is better protected
[33:57] . Jackie sits here, across this entire wall
[34:03] . This entire wall is divided into three separate walls
[34:05] . These
[34:07] walls are made of earthenware and
[34:09] are removable. Therefore, there
[34:11] are several methods. We could move this around to make the
[34:16] table space for this little refrigerator smaller
[34:18] , or larger, or even
[34:21] divide the whole thing into two large offices so
[34:27] Colleen can monitor
[34:28] what's happening in those offices with the staff
[34:31] . Of the
[34:35] options we discussed,
[34:40] this is the most feasible, from what I've heard. It's
[34:48] small, but it's still
[34:49] private. It's a fairly
[34:52] private and safe area
[34:53] . Instead of a lunchroom
[34:58] , a small break room was converted for prosecutors
[34:59] . It seems to be working well
[35:01] . I don't know
[35:03] where else to put him or her
[35:05] .
[35:08] How about the size?
[35:10] Excuse me. yes. Yeah.
[35:12] That's a different space. I'm not
[35:15] ready yet. I
[35:23] believe Jill received a grant to use the entire room that Ron Stiff is currently using for filing work.
[35:24] Part of the filing cabinet will
[35:26] be empty, but there is no separate entrance
[35:28] ; it shares two walls
[35:30] . So,
[35:31] regarding privacy, the
[35:32] fact that it's being shared means it's
[35:35] not all that private, right? I
[35:40] think we need more private office spaces
[35:42] . It's not like I'm sharing that thin wall with someone
[35:45] . If there's anything more to it
[35:48] , I don't know.
[35:50] This was the last one I heard
[35:52] , and it was the best option
[35:54] . However, this will mean
[35:56] moving Colleen to a new space
[35:58] . got it. Jose
[36:02] ?
[36:04] I didn't know that
[36:06] . I've never heard of that before. Once
[36:07] Dan returns, I
[36:11] think he'll probably be back tomorrow or the day after. got it. Let's
[36:12] discuss this a bit more. Please
[36:15] find something. It's the
[36:17] same. Do you
[36:18] have any opinions? There is
[36:27] certainly evidence to confirm that there is a certain degree of privacy in the space he occupies. That way
[36:29] , we can get it
[36:31] . I never would have
[36:32] imagined this door situation
[36:34] . I actually had to go up and take a
[36:35] look
[36:37] , but the wall moves so all I had to do was
[36:38] remove the door. The panel may
[36:40] need adjustment
[36:42] . Because the door is
[36:43] wider than the smaller panel
[36:45] . It's flat now.
[36:46] So, I have a very different opinion
[36:48] , and to be honest
[36:49] , you might not believe me
[36:50] , but I think we need to discuss this in a private meeting
[36:53] . So, well, we'll
[36:54] reconsider that. I don't know what's
[37:00] true and what's not
[37:01] , as I need legal advice
[37:03] . Um
[37:05] , the essential agenda items for the department head meeting
[37:07] . So,
[37:11] what topic would you all like to discuss?
[37:12] And what is the final result
[37:14] ? Well, I'll put together anything you
[37:16] want
[37:17] . I don't really
[37:19] mind.
[37:20] no. no. That might be true for
[37:21] some of them
[37:22] . Yeah.
[37:23] That's the item.
[37:24] Yeah. In
[37:24] other words, I don't know.
[37:25] So, obviously, we need to record it, right
[37:26] ?
[37:28] Most of this will probably be content from the public meeting
[37:29] . I don't understand
[37:31] . got it
[37:32] .
[37:32] Yeah. I wasn't
[37:34] aware of how much impact AR would have on HR
[37:36] . The
[37:43] discussion will likely be at a high level
[37:44] .
[37:47] Yeah. This
[37:51] applies to department heads and employees in general, but not to any specific employee.
[37:53] Yeah.
[37:55] That's absolutely true for certain employees. Yeah. We
[38:06] need to verify that this place is being operated in the way it should be. That's
[38:07] not the case.
[38:08] Yeah. However, it reminds us that department heads should be responsible for running their own
[38:10] departments, managing their employees,
[38:12] their work, and prioritizing tasks
[38:18] . Well, one of the challenges I've seen
[38:22] since becoming an executive is that I do
[38:29] n't think it's very appropriate for the board of directors to have a detailed control over every decision within each department
[38:31] . They need to make decisions
[38:33] , but they also need to explain why they made those decisions
[38:35] , provide supporting evidence
[38:37] , and submit reports
[38:39] . And
[38:40] when you talk about your shortcomings or your employees, you
[38:43] need to talk to yourself, not to your employees.
[38:46] Instead of complaining about your employees,
[38:47] help them improve
[38:48] . In
[38:49] matters of that kind, and in general discussions, I
[38:56] think it's necessary to remind department heads that they are responsible and that their subordinates should follow their instructions.
[38:58] In other words, in reality, they're like parents
[39:00] . We also need to explain that we
[39:03] need to improve our management methods
[39:06] . Each department has a
[39:08] designated contact person.
[39:10] Such issues
[39:11] should be handled through the designated contact person
[39:13] . A unified communication line is needed between this committee and the heads of each department
[39:17] . It is unacceptable for the situation to arise where, even if you contact the liaison officer
[39:19] , the officer then
[39:20] contacts the committee, and you are
[39:21] unable to obtain the necessary message
[39:23] . The situation should not become one of complete confusion, such as when the father says no
[39:25] , and then the child asks the mother
[39:29] .
[39:30] Yeah. That's especially true, absolutely. I'm not sure
[39:39] how to include this on the agenda
[39:43] , but I think it should be a
[39:49] more open
[39:51] discussion where, if you have questions about what the committee's expectations are and how they will be implemented, you should ask the committee
[39:52] .
[39:55] That sounds a little harsh
[39:57] .
[39:59] Well, that's about it.
[40:04] Well, I
[40:06] think that means we need to show our support
[40:08] .
[40:08] Why don't we
[40:12] talk about overtime pools or tolls? Does it make sense
[40:13] ? Of course it does
[40:15] .
[40:17] Budget constraints.
[40:20] Um, I'll write a review
[40:21] .
[40:23] Spending procedures, review process
[40:25] .
[40:26] Sorry about the rating.
[40:27] ah. Ah,
[40:28] yes. Of course
[40:31] .
[40:32] Um, employee evaluations. Please
[40:37] fill in the employee/department head evaluation
[40:39] . The
[40:50] town council adopted it many years ago
[40:52] , so that's fine
[40:54] .
[40:54] So, at the last meeting, I told
[40:59] them that we had a good discussion about it a few years ago when I was running it.
[41:00] Yes, there was a discussion about whether it was possible or not
[41:05] .
[41:05] So the
[41:07] final argument about whether it was possible was
[41:08] whether it would do so
[41:10] .
[41:13] That's because
[41:15] at the last departmental meeting, we discussed overtime
[41:16] , expenses, performance evaluations
[41:18] , and employee
[41:21] evaluations
[41:23] . In other words, it's a negative evaluation
[41:27] . This evaluation system allows employees to say, "As a department head,
[41:30] this was wrong, this was
[41:31] wrong, and this was also
[41:32] wrong." I
[41:35] believe some of our employees are quite intelligent
[41:37] , so I think it's important to have a two-way evaluation system
[41:39] . That may be true
[41:40] , but
[41:42] typically the process involves your boss
[41:44] calling you in, having a conversation
[41:47] , and then at the end asking, "Is there anything you'd like to talk about
[41:49] ?"
[41:51] and you saying something like, "I
[41:52] think you're a terrible boss."
[41:57] However, I believe that employee evaluations of department heads can be done
[42:02] privately. It may sound
[42:04] strange, but a give-
[42:06] and-take relationship is necessary when evaluating someone
[42:08] . You shouldn't do that
[42:09] .
[42:09] absolutely. Let's
[42:11] discuss that. There are several
[42:13] things that need to be added to the agenda
[42:14] . This seems to
[42:16] me like a recipe for disaster
[42:18] . I
[42:19] love it. That is,
[42:27] until someone claimed, "I gave an honest review of what he was doing and what was wrong," and 57 complaints were filed. And he
[42:28] complies, but now he's
[42:30] treated like a jerk, and well,
[42:31] obviously, so, well
[42:33] , it probably
[42:34] won't come to us.
[42:35] That's right. I think so.
[42:37] And no, that's
[42:38] not the case, yes, that's correct.
[42:40] You told them to review their boss
[42:42] .
[42:43] No, I will review it
[42:45] , but I won't share it directly
[42:47] . They will come to the town council.
[42:49] Yes, in the town council, it needs to be made very clear in that meeting that
[42:52] if they have any issues or concerns regarding their leadership or anything else
[42:53] , they should report it to the town council
[42:55] .
[42:57] Absolutely. that's right. that's right
[42:58] . I
[43:00] believe a process is necessary for that. An open
[43:01] door is needed.
[43:02] Yes, absolutely. So
[43:03] , that's
[43:04] fine, but the problem is that everyone is like,
[43:05] "Oh, he said something." I
[43:07] think something cumulative would be better
[43:08] . I
[43:09] think that's the key point. By
[43:10] using it, we...
[43:12] No, that was
[43:13] n't what we intended to do. If they do that
[43:14] ,
[43:16] they will report it to us
[43:17] , and we will be given the ability to do so
[43:19] .
[43:19] That's absolutely right. that's right
[43:21] .
[43:22] That's the
[43:26] point I sometimes hear from department heads: "Oh, that's happening because of so-and-so." got it
[43:27] . Well, something must be done
[43:29] . That's your
[43:30] employee. that's right
[43:31] .
[43:31] That's where the problem lies, and if they do something
[43:32] right, it will also give
[43:34] us a reason to know how great your employees are
[43:36] . My
[43:37] sole objective was to find out where the disconnect lay
[43:40] . got it. got it
[43:42] . So, I will take some kind of
[43:45] action.
[43:47] It was a very positive meeting
[43:49] , not a conflict
[43:51] . It's about teamwork
[43:53] , showing the department heads that we
[43:55] support them and that we'll help them run their departments
[43:58] . Sometimes I
[44:02] hear people say, "I've never been allowed to make such a decision."
[44:04] Or, "I don't know if the town council will approve it
[44:06] ." Well, that's
[44:08] your department, so
[44:09] you'll need to manage it
[44:10] . I think that message needs to be made widely known
[44:12] . Am I
[44:14] wrong?
[44:15] What day is it today? It's the
[44:17] 9th, right?
[44:18] 9th.
[44:19] So, are we going to do this?
[44:20] Is this a workshop
[44:21] ?
[44:22] How many days has it been already? no.
[44:24] We
[44:24] have an agenda item. There was another proposal
[44:25] .
[44:26] no.
[44:26] That's what we're trying to figure out
[44:27] . This
[44:28] is a concern. It's very
[44:30] slow.
[44:30] Most of the employees are probably not here
[44:32] .
[44:33] Yeah. Please
[44:35] tell them to consider it for another day and secure a location
[44:37] . I
[44:39] sent it two weeks ago.
[44:40] Yes, it might be around 10:15
[44:42] .
[44:43] no. But on the last day,
[44:46] oh yes. I won't do that
[44:47] . Please don't worry about it
[44:49] .
[44:49] However, we need to notify them immediately not to schedule any meetings or other events
[44:53] . I
[44:55] know that was the case.
[44:56] But nobody knew.
[44:57] what was happening
[44:59] . Um,
[45:01] wait a moment. Yeah, I don't know
[45:03] . Well, I don't want to do it on the 14th and
[45:07] 15th. Because I'm quite
[45:10] busy. Well, it seems I was
[45:13] completely free, but
[45:15] then I went back. Is
[45:17] n't that how that date came about
[45:18] ?
[45:19] Yeah, but I don't know. I
[45:22] think Tuesday morning, October 20th would be fine. I think
[45:23] he said he'd be out for the entire month of October
[45:26] . We couldn't hear anything
[45:26] , but I
[45:27] think that's why we were there
[45:29] . Because it was
[45:29] basically the only day of the month
[45:31] . I'm thinking of
[45:34] doing that
[45:36] . Maybe we can
[45:38] go back to that. I just
[45:39] asked him, and he
[45:42] said the internet connection is unstable. Understood. I wasn't sure if I
[45:44] could connect
[45:45] . That's why I released it a week and a
[45:54] half ago.
[45:56] That's all. If you guys
[46:05] want to do it again a little later
[46:07] .
[46:07] Yeah. Okay, I can do that
[46:09] . Now, let's move on
[46:13] . What is this website? what
[46:15] ?
[46:15] Before rescheduling, would you
[46:19] like to confirm whether the department head will be able to attend? I
[46:21] know two people, but I
[46:22] think there are probably six in total
[46:24] . What about
[46:26] that night?
[46:27] Yeah. I think both of them will be able to attend
[46:29] .
[46:34] From a human resources perspective, we would like Kelly
[46:35] Ann to attend the meeting
[46:37] . She acts as an intermediary
[46:40] between employees, us, and former employees
[46:42] . That's my
[46:45] opinion. She wasn't here that day
[46:47] .
[46:50] ah.
[46:53] She's just telling herself to listen
[46:55] . This is being recorded, so I
[46:58] think that's the reason.
[47:01] In other words, in my opinion, the problem is that there are
[47:04] always too many people between the employees and the town council
[47:06] .
[47:08] And that means it
[47:17] needs to be included on the agenda. got it
[47:19] .
[47:22] When is the next department heads' meeting
[47:24] ? Is it the 20th or the 27th
[47:26] ? Is it the 3rd
[47:27] or the 4th? It's the 4th
[47:29] . I will go if I am asked to
[47:30] .
[47:32] Tuesday.
[47:32] Ah, in that case it would be the 27th
[47:34] . The
[47:40] department heads' meeting is on October 27th at 9:30 AM
[47:43] . If you would
[47:45] like to use it, you
[47:47] can do so. Okay
[47:48] , let's put it on the tentative schedule for now
[47:49] . Will he
[47:50] attend? In
[47:51] my case, I attended
[47:52] , but I might not
[47:53] .
[47:54] In other words, he will ultimately tell us what we should do
[47:56] . So, let's
[47:57] hold that meeting today and proceed from there
[47:59] . got it
[48:00] . That's great. please
[48:03] .
[48:15] Website. got it. Now
[48:18] , let's
[48:19] move on to that.
[48:20] Website discussion. Regarding the
[48:22] website discussion, I
[48:24] spoke with the grant officer. Several
[48:29] new requirements have emerged regarding ADA access to document apps
[48:32] . You can start working on it early.
[48:37] In short, I'm asking if we can get Ron
[48:38] Stephen involved in this
[48:41] , but this is his
[48:43] area of ​​expertise, and we... don't want to
[48:45] . What
[48:46] troubled us about the requirements was that
[48:48] ,
[48:49] regarding some of the decisions, we wondered, "Is this really a national
[48:50] program?"
[48:51] Yes, that's true, but
[48:53] New York State is really
[48:55] strict, and if you don't comply, you could face a $40,000
[48:56] lawsuit
[48:58] .
[48:58] Yes, I signed it
[49:00] .
[49:00] yes. it's
[49:01] okay. I was there just a few minutes
[49:03] ago. I
[49:05] signed it. Review of advisory committee
[49:08] members.
[49:11] Ah, the reason I put it there was to get
[49:13] everyone's confirmation beforehand
[49:15] . I'm going back to work.
[49:17] Yes, it's
[49:21] time to get everyone's confirmation so that we can post after we've reorganized. got it
[49:23] . They
[49:29] said they would place an advertisement in September or October, and that a committee for reorganization would be prepared by December. got it.
[49:31] Then, I will
[49:33] email all the chairpersons to let them know who has a vacant seat
[49:34] .
[49:36] Before the next meeting, we will
[49:47] confirm who wants to participate, who wants to participate as their term is ending, who does not want to participate, or who does not want to participate if there are vacancies.
[49:52] That way, you
[49:53] can do one thing. All at
[49:55] once. Certified public accountants too. I
[50:04] lost this page due to some technical issue. Understood. The
[50:19] tournament has 302
[50:30] participants. Understood. Okay. Is there
[50:37] anything else at the public meeting?
[50:44] He will be absent on the 14th and 27th. I will be here
[50:48] at 9:30 AM on the 27th
[50:51] .
[50:51] Well, it says he's no longer alive
[50:53] . Understood. I'm
[50:55] leaving for Texas on October 26th
[50:57] .
[51:01] Anyway, let's talk to him and get to the
[51:03] gist of what he has to say.
[51:05] Yeah. All five of us are together
[51:07] .
[51:08] Okay. Now, I will submit a motion to enter into a closed-door meeting
[51:09] .