1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:01:40,730 2 00:01:40,730 --> 00:01:42,090 What will you tell her. 3 00:01:42,090 --> 00:01:55,330 Yeah I'm ready. 4 00:01:55,330 --> 00:01:57,010 Are you ready, Thomas. 5 00:01:57,010 --> 00:01:57,830 We are ready. 6 00:01:57,830 --> 00:02:00,850 7 00:02:00,850 --> 00:02:03,490 What is the date today. 8 00:02:03,490 --> 00:02:05,410 25th 25th. 9 00:02:05,410 --> 00:02:07,230 25th somehow I thought it was the 24th. 10 00:02:07,230 --> 00:02:09,389 25th all right. 11 00:02:09,389 --> 00:02:11,450 We'll call this meeting to order. 12 00:02:11,450 --> 00:02:15,450 Welcome to the August 25, 2026 city of Grand Junction 13 00:02:15,450 --> 00:02:16,950 planning commission meeting. 14 00:02:16,950 --> 00:02:20,250 A couple of housekeeping items before we begin. 15 00:02:20,250 --> 00:02:22,550 Agendas are available on your way into the auditorium. 16 00:02:22,550 --> 00:02:25,810 And please turn off or silence your cell phones in order 17 00:02:25,810 --> 00:02:28,570 to promote a civil discussion and honor the right to differing 18 00:02:28,570 --> 00:02:30,010 opinions, members of the audience 19 00:02:30,010 --> 00:02:32,130 are asked to refrain from exhibiting expressions 20 00:02:32,130 --> 00:02:35,610 of support or opposition, such as cheering 21 00:02:35,610 --> 00:02:38,070 and yelling, at any point during the meeting. 22 00:02:38,070 --> 00:02:39,670 Please note members of the public, 23 00:02:39,670 --> 00:02:41,390 as well as applicants or commissioners, 24 00:02:41,390 --> 00:02:43,890 may be joining us via the web this evening. 25 00:02:43,890 --> 00:02:46,530 We ask for your patience as we utilize this hybrid system that 26 00:02:46,530 --> 00:02:49,770 helps ensure that all want to participate in this hearing 27 00:02:49,770 --> 00:02:51,530 are able. 28 00:02:51,530 --> 00:02:54,170 Our first order of business tonight 29 00:02:54,170 --> 00:02:55,830 is to review the consent agenda. 30 00:02:55,830 --> 00:02:57,690 Items on the consent agenda are items 31 00:02:57,690 --> 00:03:00,420 perceived to be non-controversial in nature 32 00:03:00,420 --> 00:03:03,300 and meet all requirements of the codes and regulations, 33 00:03:03,300 --> 00:03:05,180 and/or the applicant has acknowledged 34 00:03:05,180 --> 00:03:07,580 agreement with the recommended conditions. 35 00:03:07,580 --> 00:03:10,240 The consent agenda will be acted upon in one motion, 36 00:03:10,240 --> 00:03:13,100 unless the applicant member of the public planning commissioner 37 00:03:13,100 --> 00:03:15,060 or staff requests that the item be removed 38 00:03:15,060 --> 00:03:16,700 from the consent agenda. 39 00:03:16,700 --> 00:03:18,380 Items removed from the consent agenda 40 00:03:18,380 --> 00:03:21,200 will be reviewed as part of the regular agenda. 41 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,460 Consent agenda items must be removed from the consent 42 00:03:23,460 --> 00:03:27,060 agenda for a full hearing to be eligible for appeal or hearing. 43 00:03:27,060 --> 00:03:28,420 Is there a request from the commission 44 00:03:28,420 --> 00:03:33,580 to remove our single item from the consent agenda. 45 00:03:33,580 --> 00:03:36,180 Is there anyone else interested in removing 46 00:03:36,180 --> 00:03:38,740 item from the consent agenda. 47 00:03:38,740 --> 00:03:39,240 All right. 48 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:42,160 With that, is there a motion to approve the consent agenda. 49 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:43,100 So moved. 50 00:03:43,100 --> 00:03:43,980 I'll second. 51 00:03:43,980 --> 00:03:44,480 All right. 52 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:45,380 All in favor. 53 00:03:45,380 --> 00:03:47,980 Aye Any opposed. 54 00:03:47,980 --> 00:03:48,480 All right. 55 00:03:48,480 --> 00:03:50,780 The consent agenda passes. 56 00:03:50,780 --> 00:03:53,860 Do we have 7, 7 to 0. 57 00:03:53,860 --> 00:03:56,860 Public hearings are conducted pursuant to the laws 58 00:03:56,860 --> 00:03:59,100 of the state of Colorado, the city of Grand Junction 59 00:03:59,100 --> 00:04:01,740 and the regulations duly adopted by the planning 60 00:04:01,740 --> 00:04:03,260 commission of the city. 61 00:04:03,260 --> 00:04:05,660 The purpose of this hearing is to receive information 62 00:04:05,660 --> 00:04:08,020 and testimony by all interested parties, 63 00:04:08,020 --> 00:04:09,420 to enable this planning commission to make 64 00:04:09,420 --> 00:04:11,940 appropriate findings and reach the conclusions 65 00:04:11,940 --> 00:04:14,020 required to be made by law. 66 00:04:14,020 --> 00:04:15,940 Both a written and video recording 67 00:04:15,940 --> 00:04:17,360 are made of these proceedings. 68 00:04:17,360 --> 00:04:19,579 Those who desire to be heard must identify 69 00:04:19,579 --> 00:04:21,860 themselves by their full name. 70 00:04:21,860 --> 00:04:23,860 The order of this hearing will be as follows. 71 00:04:23,860 --> 00:04:25,660 An examination of the application 72 00:04:25,660 --> 00:04:29,380 and a determination concerning the adequacy of notification. 73 00:04:29,380 --> 00:04:32,420 A presentation, description and analysis of the application 74 00:04:32,420 --> 00:04:33,500 by staff. 75 00:04:33,500 --> 00:04:36,820 An opportunity for the applicant to present evidence and argument 76 00:04:36,820 --> 00:04:39,020 concerning the applicant's position, 77 00:04:39,020 --> 00:04:42,380 and all other interested parties may address the commission. 78 00:04:42,380 --> 00:04:43,880 Public comment will be limited to three 79 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:45,540 minutes for each speaker. 80 00:04:45,540 --> 00:04:49,240 The planning commission may ask questions of staff, 81 00:04:49,240 --> 00:04:53,260 the applicant or members of the public after each presentation, 82 00:04:53,260 --> 00:04:55,320 public comment section of the hearing may be closed. 83 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:57,670 After all public comment has been received, 84 00:04:57,670 --> 00:04:59,990 the applicant will be given an opportunity to respond 85 00:04:59,990 --> 00:05:01,750 or rebuttal if desired. 86 00:05:01,750 --> 00:05:04,430 Staff may, may respond to any statement made by 87 00:05:04,430 --> 00:05:06,670 the applicant, the public or the commission. 88 00:05:06,670 --> 00:05:08,950 The chair will close the public hearing. 89 00:05:08,950 --> 00:05:10,610 No further evidence will be accepted. 90 00:05:10,610 --> 00:05:14,310 The evidentiary portion may be reopened only by a majority vote 91 00:05:14,310 --> 00:05:15,830 of the planning commission. 92 00:05:15,830 --> 00:05:17,457 After the closure of the public hearing, 93 00:05:17,457 --> 00:05:18,590 the planning commission will begin 94 00:05:18,590 --> 00:05:22,510 its deliberation, which will end with the passage of a motion. 95 00:05:22,510 --> 00:05:25,230 So the first item on the agenda this evening 96 00:05:25,230 --> 00:05:27,790 is to consider requests by Martin Mendoza 97 00:05:27,790 --> 00:05:31,990 to vacate a portion of inland Avenue public right 98 00:05:31,990 --> 00:05:34,350 of way, that is, the outlying areas 99 00:05:34,350 --> 00:05:41,070 of a cul-de-sac that about 567 Southwest gate drive 100 00:05:41,070 --> 00:05:44,550 and 569 Southwest gate drive. 101 00:05:44,550 --> 00:05:46,870 The vacation shall be conditioned on the city of Grand 102 00:05:46,870 --> 00:05:51,550 Junction, retaining a 14 foot multi-purpose easement 103 00:05:51,550 --> 00:05:53,310 in each portion of the cul-de-sac 104 00:05:53,310 --> 00:05:57,590 along the remaining inland Avenue right of way. 105 00:05:57,590 --> 00:06:01,310 Staff, are you ready to proceed on this Yes 106 00:06:01,310 --> 00:06:03,830 And is the applicant present. 107 00:06:03,830 --> 00:06:05,570 And would you identify yourself, please. 108 00:06:05,570 --> 00:06:07,470 And are you ready to proceed. 109 00:06:07,470 --> 00:06:13,270 Yes Thank you. 110 00:06:13,270 --> 00:06:15,990 And before we begin, was the required 111 00:06:15,990 --> 00:06:17,710 public notice given on this. 112 00:06:17,710 --> 00:06:21,850 Yes pursuant to the city's noticing requirements. 113 00:06:21,850 --> 00:06:23,210 Yes thank you. 114 00:06:23,210 --> 00:06:24,890 With that, we can proceed. 115 00:06:24,890 --> 00:06:28,590 Could you please introduce the exhibits for the record. 116 00:06:28,590 --> 00:06:44,610 Absolutely let me grab them. 117 00:06:44,610 --> 00:06:45,250 That's OK. 118 00:06:45,250 --> 00:07:03,240 119 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,460 So for the exhibits, we have exhibit one, 120 00:07:05,460 --> 00:07:07,320 which will be the staff report. 121 00:07:07,320 --> 00:07:09,480 We then have exhibit two which will 122 00:07:09,480 --> 00:07:11,800 be the development application. 123 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,200 Exhibit 3 is the neighborhood meeting notes. 124 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:17,740 Exhibit 4 being the right of way exhibits, 125 00:07:17,740 --> 00:07:21,560 and exhibit 5 being the draft zoning ordinance. 126 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:22,060 Thank you. 127 00:07:22,060 --> 00:07:24,320 And are there any additional exhibits that were not 128 00:07:24,320 --> 00:07:27,480 included in the staff report. 129 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:29,140 No perfect. 130 00:07:29,140 --> 00:07:30,140 You may proceed. 131 00:07:30,140 --> 00:07:34,480 132 00:07:34,480 --> 00:07:35,060 Good evening. 133 00:07:35,060 --> 00:07:36,980 Commissioners My name is Lily Sutton. 134 00:07:36,980 --> 00:07:39,200 I'm a new senior planner with the city. 135 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,960 So this is my official first presentation for y'all. 136 00:07:42,960 --> 00:07:47,580 Tonight's case is regarding the Southwest gate of way vacation. 137 00:07:47,580 --> 00:07:49,040 So this is. 138 00:07:49,040 --> 00:07:53,840 The request is to vacate two existing portions of previously 139 00:07:53,840 --> 00:08:00,290 dedicated right of way, totaling approximately 2200ft They are 140 00:08:00,290 --> 00:08:03,970 the outlying areas of a cul-de-sac 141 00:08:03,970 --> 00:08:06,450 that was never developed, as inland 142 00:08:06,450 --> 00:08:09,370 Avenue is a through street. 143 00:08:09,370 --> 00:08:10,990 And as you can see on the site map, 144 00:08:10,990 --> 00:08:15,370 these are the two areas to be vacated. 145 00:08:15,370 --> 00:08:20,290 One is on the 567 parcel to the South of inland Avenue, 146 00:08:20,290 --> 00:08:23,850 and the other is located to the North of inland 147 00:08:23,850 --> 00:08:29,450 and is located on 569. 148 00:08:29,450 --> 00:08:34,049 The current zoning of the property is commercial general. 149 00:08:34,049 --> 00:08:37,409 The applicant has also put in an application 150 00:08:37,409 --> 00:08:39,169 and is going through the review process 151 00:08:39,169 --> 00:08:45,230 for both a minor subdivision for the 565 property, 152 00:08:45,230 --> 00:08:50,130 as well as the 567 property both to the South of inland 153 00:08:50,130 --> 00:08:58,330 for a future vehicle and equipment storage and warehouse 154 00:08:58,330 --> 00:09:02,390 for the owner's current existing business, 155 00:09:02,390 --> 00:09:04,490 and to expand on these two lots. 156 00:09:04,490 --> 00:09:06,370 And there is also a separate application 157 00:09:06,370 --> 00:09:12,450 for a minor subdivision to combine these two lots together. 158 00:09:12,450 --> 00:09:15,250 The comprehensive plan calls out the future land 159 00:09:15,250 --> 00:09:16,890 use as industrial. 160 00:09:16,890 --> 00:09:19,330 Both the zoning and the future land use 161 00:09:19,330 --> 00:09:24,210 are compatible with the vehicle and equipment use storage use 162 00:09:24,210 --> 00:09:29,170 that the applicant is proposing in the future, but just not 100% 163 00:09:29,170 --> 00:09:31,810 relevant to the right of way, but in the future. 164 00:09:31,810 --> 00:09:36,290 This is an allowed use by right. 165 00:09:36,290 --> 00:09:40,450 And for this is to show this is one of the submittals that 166 00:09:40,450 --> 00:09:43,090 was submitted with the site plan that is currently 167 00:09:43,090 --> 00:09:45,490 being reviewed by staff. 168 00:09:45,490 --> 00:09:48,770 It's just showing the road alignment for inland 169 00:09:48,770 --> 00:09:51,650 and that it is in fact a through street. 170 00:09:51,650 --> 00:09:53,450 And that cul-de-sac and turnaround is no 171 00:09:53,450 --> 00:09:58,300 longer necessary for this area. 172 00:09:58,300 --> 00:10:03,100 And so for the analysis, it is in line 173 00:10:03,100 --> 00:10:06,500 with the comprehensive plan, both in the future land use 174 00:10:06,500 --> 00:10:09,900 and with the overall circulation plan for the city. 175 00:10:09,900 --> 00:10:14,700 The access is not changed considering that the Inland 176 00:10:14,700 --> 00:10:21,220 Avenue is already developed as is, so there are no large scale 177 00:10:21,220 --> 00:10:26,020 changes other than the applicant being able to use both this site 178 00:10:26,020 --> 00:10:30,740 and potentially if in for future development of the 569 179 00:10:30,740 --> 00:10:32,660 site to the North could just be developed 180 00:10:32,660 --> 00:10:34,040 to their full potential. 181 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:36,860 182 00:10:36,860 --> 00:10:43,020 And based on the finding of fact, the. 183 00:10:43,020 --> 00:10:48,620 After reviewing the request to vacate approximately 2236ft 184 00:10:48,620 --> 00:10:52,020 of public right of way along inland Avenue, 185 00:10:52,020 --> 00:10:59,020 but with the condition that a 14 foot multi-purpose 186 00:10:59,020 --> 00:11:02,740 easement is granted along the remaining 187 00:11:02,740 --> 00:11:04,660 portions of inland Avenue. 188 00:11:04,660 --> 00:11:07,340 Based on the submittals that they have given 189 00:11:07,340 --> 00:11:10,760 the city for the site plan and the subdivision in the future, 190 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:14,440 they are both showing that 14 foot multipurpose easement. 191 00:11:14,440 --> 00:11:19,460 So staff is finding all of these requirements to be met. 192 00:11:19,460 --> 00:11:23,140 And with that, I will open it up to any questions 193 00:11:23,140 --> 00:11:26,500 that you all might have for either me or the applicant. 194 00:11:26,500 --> 00:11:28,720 Are there any questions for staff at this time. 195 00:11:28,720 --> 00:11:29,580 I have one. 196 00:11:29,580 --> 00:11:30,460 Go ahead. 197 00:11:30,460 --> 00:11:32,980 Yes Lynn, first off, welcome. 198 00:11:32,980 --> 00:11:35,820 Glad to have you here. 199 00:11:35,820 --> 00:11:39,540 In regards to the 569 West gate address, which is 200 00:11:39,540 --> 00:11:43,020 also affected by this vacation. 201 00:11:43,020 --> 00:11:46,800 They have asked, does this have any effect to them. 202 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,460 And for the record, I'd like to just ask that question 203 00:11:49,460 --> 00:11:50,920 and have it answered, please. 204 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:51,520 Yeah, absolutely. 205 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:52,990 That's a great question. 206 00:11:52,990 --> 00:11:57,510 The effect that this will have on the 5, 6, 9 property 207 00:11:57,510 --> 00:12:01,150 is that it removes that dedicated right 208 00:12:01,150 --> 00:12:04,950 of way which is on their lot. 209 00:12:04,950 --> 00:12:07,150 So really the only impact is that if they want 210 00:12:07,150 --> 00:12:10,670 to develop in the future, that space is no 211 00:12:10,670 --> 00:12:12,130 longer considered right of way. 212 00:12:12,130 --> 00:12:15,270 And they are able to use that site to its max 213 00:12:15,270 --> 00:12:16,810 layout and Max potential. 214 00:12:16,810 --> 00:12:20,390 So there is an impact, but it's a net positive impact. 215 00:12:20,390 --> 00:12:21,590 Thank you. 216 00:12:21,590 --> 00:12:23,790 Thank you. 217 00:12:23,790 --> 00:12:24,630 Go ahead. 218 00:12:24,630 --> 00:12:26,710 Just piggybacking on that. 219 00:12:26,710 --> 00:12:30,070 Has there been communication with those property owners 220 00:12:30,070 --> 00:12:31,070 to the North. 221 00:12:31,070 --> 00:12:33,250 I have not had direct communication, 222 00:12:33,250 --> 00:12:35,370 but I will turn that over to Kim Kirk. 223 00:12:35,370 --> 00:12:37,110 If there's been any communications 224 00:12:37,110 --> 00:12:41,870 with that property owner to the North, there has not. 225 00:12:41,870 --> 00:12:44,270 Yeah if you could, we'll just turn it over to you. 226 00:12:44,270 --> 00:12:45,370 At this time, I was going to say, 227 00:12:45,370 --> 00:12:47,050 do you have a presentation for us. 228 00:12:47,050 --> 00:12:52,030 And then also could just answer that question. 229 00:12:52,030 --> 00:12:54,010 Not so. 230 00:12:54,010 --> 00:12:57,670 Good evening, commissioners and staff. 231 00:12:57,670 --> 00:13:00,590 Kim Kirk, Kim Kirkland consulting and development. 232 00:13:00,590 --> 00:13:06,270 So I'm the representative for the owner, Martin Mendoza. 233 00:13:06,270 --> 00:13:09,230 So this I'm going to back up and give you 234 00:13:09,230 --> 00:13:10,450 just a little bit of history. 235 00:13:10,450 --> 00:13:15,110 So this project started out with Mr. Mendoza, 236 00:13:15,110 --> 00:13:18,110 went in to apply for a fence permit. 237 00:13:18,110 --> 00:13:21,810 And he owns these two lots at 565 and 567. 238 00:13:21,810 --> 00:13:25,270 So it came about that if he wanted to not 239 00:13:25,270 --> 00:13:26,850 have to put fence through the middle, 240 00:13:26,850 --> 00:13:28,130 he could combine the lots. 241 00:13:28,130 --> 00:13:33,470 So long story short, it ended up doing a minor subdivision, 242 00:13:33,470 --> 00:13:34,970 a site plan review. 243 00:13:34,970 --> 00:13:37,990 244 00:13:37,990 --> 00:13:40,050 And Lily's like the fourth planner, 245 00:13:40,050 --> 00:13:45,270 so she probably wouldn't even know all of that information. 246 00:13:45,270 --> 00:13:47,330 So we got through the subdivision, 247 00:13:47,330 --> 00:13:49,170 we were getting through all the processes, 248 00:13:49,170 --> 00:13:51,900 and then we were notified by the planner. 249 00:13:51,900 --> 00:13:56,320 Previous planner that we had to vacate that right of way. 250 00:13:56,320 --> 00:13:57,340 And they. 251 00:13:57,340 --> 00:14:00,000 So it was mandated to us to vacate that right of way. 252 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:02,680 I asked the question, how do we vacate something 253 00:14:02,680 --> 00:14:04,380 off of someone else's property. 254 00:14:04,380 --> 00:14:05,960 And they said, that's not necessary 255 00:14:05,960 --> 00:14:07,380 because it's city right of way. 256 00:14:07,380 --> 00:14:11,840 So I didn't contact the neighbors. 257 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:13,140 That's the long answer. 258 00:14:13,140 --> 00:14:18,400 259 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:20,100 Thank you for that explanation. 260 00:14:20,100 --> 00:14:20,820 Appreciate it. 261 00:14:20,820 --> 00:14:24,400 Yes and then I have just a little tiny bit more 262 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:31,560 to add on these two properties, there are no plans for any type 263 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:33,600 of warehouse or construction. 264 00:14:33,600 --> 00:14:38,160 This is for a landscaping company owner that wants to park 265 00:14:38,160 --> 00:14:41,240 his equipment there at night. 266 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:42,760 So the big. 267 00:14:42,760 --> 00:14:45,280 He'll come in the morning, get over whatever equipment 268 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,140 he might need, take it out for the day and return it. 269 00:14:48,140 --> 00:14:51,730 So there's not any development planned on these two lots 270 00:14:51,730 --> 00:14:52,230 at all. 271 00:14:52,230 --> 00:14:55,130 272 00:14:55,130 --> 00:14:59,170 Are there any other questions for staff or applicant. 273 00:14:59,170 --> 00:15:01,890 Just a small one. 274 00:15:01,890 --> 00:15:05,530 It you mentioned the 14 foot multipurpose easement. 275 00:15:05,530 --> 00:15:10,290 There seems to be on the exhibit for the right of way exhibit. 276 00:15:10,290 --> 00:15:13,170 There's a. 277 00:15:13,170 --> 00:15:15,410 It shows a 15 foot utility easement. 278 00:15:15,410 --> 00:15:21,010 Are those also remaining and is that should 279 00:15:21,010 --> 00:15:25,050 those be different sizes. 280 00:15:25,050 --> 00:15:27,610 Or dimensions to the best of my knowledge, 281 00:15:27,610 --> 00:15:30,810 the 14 foot multipurpose easement is called out 282 00:15:30,810 --> 00:15:33,770 separately on the subdivision. 283 00:15:33,770 --> 00:15:38,170 I'm not entirely sure what the difference between the 15 284 00:15:38,170 --> 00:15:41,010 foot utility easement and the multi-purpose. 285 00:15:41,010 --> 00:15:45,330 I can just confirm that the condition is met for the 14 foot 286 00:15:45,330 --> 00:15:47,690 so far on what has been submitted. 287 00:15:47,690 --> 00:15:56,550 Are there any other questions. 288 00:15:56,550 --> 00:15:59,170 289 00:15:59,170 --> 00:16:00,770 Madam Chair, if I may. 290 00:16:00,770 --> 00:16:01,510 Who said that. 291 00:16:01,510 --> 00:16:05,770 Oh, that's James Beard assistant city attorney. 292 00:16:05,770 --> 00:16:08,650 I would just like to clarify some for the record. 293 00:16:08,650 --> 00:16:10,710 Our right of way isn't on their lots. 294 00:16:10,710 --> 00:16:12,570 It's the city's right of way. 295 00:16:12,570 --> 00:16:15,570 They have just been utilizing it because it's never been built 296 00:16:15,570 --> 00:16:17,690 to look like it is roadway. 297 00:16:17,690 --> 00:16:20,790 And so they've been treating it as if it's their lots. 298 00:16:20,790 --> 00:16:25,130 And so basically by going ahead and vacating the roadway, 299 00:16:25,130 --> 00:16:28,170 we're giving them what they believe or would 300 00:16:28,170 --> 00:16:31,130 appear to already be their lot. 301 00:16:31,130 --> 00:16:33,730 Technically it could change something 302 00:16:33,730 --> 00:16:37,850 a little bit for both lots and that now they would be looked 303 00:16:37,850 --> 00:16:40,690 at as those really are fully their lots, 304 00:16:40,690 --> 00:16:43,090 all that area included within their lots. 305 00:16:43,090 --> 00:16:45,970 It may change their tax assessment. 306 00:16:45,970 --> 00:16:48,570 I can't expect that it's going to be a lot, 307 00:16:48,570 --> 00:16:52,060 but arguably that now will be their land 308 00:16:52,060 --> 00:16:54,980 to be considered as all of theirs 309 00:16:54,980 --> 00:16:58,060 and not considered as road right away any longer. 310 00:16:58,060 --> 00:17:01,700 And so we're really giving them what they think they've got. 311 00:17:01,700 --> 00:17:06,700 But at the same time it is city road right of way to vacate 312 00:17:06,700 --> 00:17:08,760 if the city chooses to do so. 313 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:13,300 We don't have to have permission of the property owner to do it. 314 00:17:13,300 --> 00:17:14,940 We have yet to have a property owner 315 00:17:14,940 --> 00:17:16,280 though complain that we did it. 316 00:17:16,280 --> 00:17:18,240 So I just wanted to clarify. 317 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:20,420 I think there were two times it was mentioned that it was 318 00:17:20,420 --> 00:17:22,480 their lots and it's not their lots, 319 00:17:22,480 --> 00:17:25,380 it's the city road right of way. 320 00:17:25,380 --> 00:17:26,119 Thank you. 321 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:27,140 Yes thank you. 322 00:17:27,140 --> 00:17:29,960 And I was just going to say, just to echo Jamie's point, 323 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:33,500 this is really like a clean it up kind of exercise. 324 00:17:33,500 --> 00:17:35,280 When we do see something like this, 325 00:17:35,280 --> 00:17:38,900 like in what MS Kirk said with the fence permit. 326 00:17:38,900 --> 00:17:45,700 We tried to clean up the record in these types of things 327 00:17:45,700 --> 00:17:50,980 and with this case a paper plat of right of way 328 00:17:50,980 --> 00:17:54,860 that is never actually been used as such. 329 00:17:54,860 --> 00:17:57,720 As plans change with streets and things like that, 330 00:17:57,720 --> 00:18:00,140 we run into these sometimes. 331 00:18:00,140 --> 00:18:05,140 So to clean it up, exercise. 332 00:18:05,140 --> 00:18:05,800 Thank you. 333 00:18:05,800 --> 00:18:08,700 Are there any other questions. 334 00:18:08,700 --> 00:18:10,640 So at this time, we'll open the hearing up. 335 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,440 Thank you, MS Kirk, for public comment. 336 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:14,920 Seeing no one in the audience. 337 00:18:14,920 --> 00:18:17,460 Do we have anybody online. 338 00:18:17,460 --> 00:18:18,660 We do not. 339 00:18:18,660 --> 00:18:19,620 All right. 340 00:18:19,620 --> 00:18:23,000 Seeing no public and having no public online to comment, 341 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:27,340 I will close the public comment hearing the public comment 342 00:18:27,340 --> 00:18:28,680 portion of the hearing. 343 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:31,220 344 00:18:31,220 --> 00:18:33,600 Our let's see. 345 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:37,200 And we don't need any additional comments to the public. 346 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:40,260 Comments we didn't get. 347 00:18:40,260 --> 00:18:43,380 Sorry trying to go through the meeting notes. 348 00:18:43,380 --> 00:18:44,700 That's OK. 349 00:18:44,700 --> 00:18:48,110 I thought I was going to ask you who was up at bat. 350 00:18:48,110 --> 00:18:48,610 All right. 351 00:18:48,610 --> 00:18:51,270 Are there any additional questions for staff or applicant 352 00:18:51,270 --> 00:18:55,710 at this time before I close this item for public hearing. 353 00:18:55,710 --> 00:18:56,210 All right. 354 00:18:56,210 --> 00:18:58,190 We will close the public hearing and turn to the planning 355 00:18:58,190 --> 00:18:59,730 commission for additional discussion, 356 00:18:59,730 --> 00:19:03,030 deliberation or a motion. 357 00:19:03,030 --> 00:19:08,390 Motion you better just close your laptop down there. 358 00:19:08,390 --> 00:19:11,110 I'll just make the comment that I did go out and look 359 00:19:11,110 --> 00:19:16,950 at this property and met the people at 569, 360 00:19:16,950 --> 00:19:20,750 and they did have some concerns about what this meant. 361 00:19:20,750 --> 00:19:24,390 They had gotten a postcard that they didn't exactly understand. 362 00:19:24,390 --> 00:19:28,610 There was no posting or anything out there at the time. 363 00:19:28,610 --> 00:19:31,750 And so there was some confusion, but we talked it out 364 00:19:31,750 --> 00:19:33,890 and they feel a lot better about it. 365 00:19:33,890 --> 00:19:35,310 But they did want it on the record 366 00:19:35,310 --> 00:19:39,370 that this was not going to affect their property adversely. 367 00:19:39,370 --> 00:19:40,810 And so they're all fine with it. 368 00:19:40,810 --> 00:19:44,870 And having looked at it, it is a clean up exercise 369 00:19:44,870 --> 00:19:46,330 and make perfect sense to me. 370 00:19:46,330 --> 00:19:48,950 371 00:19:48,950 --> 00:19:51,230 And with that, I'd like to make a motion. 372 00:19:51,230 --> 00:19:51,970 Go ahead. 373 00:19:51,970 --> 00:19:54,990 374 00:19:54,990 --> 00:19:56,010 Madam Chair. 375 00:19:56,010 --> 00:19:57,890 On the Inland Avenue public right of way. 376 00:19:57,890 --> 00:20:01,790 Vacation located between 5, 6, 7 Southwest gate drive 377 00:20:01,790 --> 00:20:04,450 and 569 Southwest gate drive. 378 00:20:04,450 --> 00:20:06,630 I move that the planning commission, for recommendation 379 00:20:06,630 --> 00:20:09,150 of approval to city council of the findings 380 00:20:09,150 --> 00:20:11,710 of fact and conditions as listed in the staff report. 381 00:20:11,710 --> 00:20:14,130 Second, there's a motion. 382 00:20:14,130 --> 00:20:17,230 And second, are there any additional discussion. 383 00:20:17,230 --> 00:20:17,730 All right. 384 00:20:17,730 --> 00:20:18,910 All in favor, say Aye. 385 00:20:18,910 --> 00:20:21,710 Aye Any opposed. 386 00:20:21,710 --> 00:20:23,730 The motion passes 7 to 0. 387 00:20:23,730 --> 00:20:27,070 388 00:20:27,070 --> 00:20:29,910 Is there any other business to be brought before the planning 389 00:20:29,910 --> 00:20:31,130 commission this evening. 390 00:20:31,130 --> 00:20:35,190 391 00:20:35,190 --> 00:20:35,690 All right. 392 00:20:35,690 --> 00:20:37,790 Do we have a motion to adjourn. 393 00:20:37,790 --> 00:20:38,670 So moved. 394 00:20:38,670 --> 00:20:41,470 Second All in favor. 395 00:20:41,470 --> 00:20:45,200 Aye we are adjourned. 396 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,000