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Good morning everyone.
I'll be calling this board of

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commissioners regular meeting for
September 10th, 2026 to order. If you

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can please join me for the pledge of
allegiance and salute to the state flag.

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» I pledge algiance to the flag of the
United States of America and to the

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republic for it stands one nation
indivisible with all.

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Salute the flag of state of New Mexico
symbol of perfect friendship among

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united cultures.

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» Thank you.
Moving on to uh approval of the uh

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regular meeting agenda.
>> Motion

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» second.
>> Motion by Commissioner uh Medina, second

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by Commissioner Flores. Do we have any
discussion?

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» Seeing none, all those in favor? I
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» I motion carries. Moving into uh next
item is public input. During this

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portion of our meeting, we welcome your
suggestions. Want to hear your concerns.

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This is not a question and answer
period. Speakers will be limited to five

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minutes. Any individual like to discuss
an item in more depth may uh be uh

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request to be placed on a future agenda
and the forms are in the county

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manager's office. Do we have anyone for
public speaking?

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Hi, my name is Lewis Mitchell and I live
in Popcorn.

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You know, the county commissioners have
talked about these rate increases and um

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the new rules and things like that.
Well, I contacted a number of

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individuals. Am I on in uh Katherine
County just north of us? Their waste

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management up there. They charge the
community a $25 fee for which you get a

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basically it's like a little credit
card. They have numerous uh dump

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stations around the county where people
can go and they have uh waste stations.

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So, you pay based upon how much you're
disposing. A lot of residents that I

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spoke to up there shared with me that
they're paying as little as $3 a month.

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Um, and what happens is that they're
weighed, they scan their card, they're

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weighed, they go in and dump it, and
then they receive a monthly bill instead

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of this uh outrageous fee that we're
currently looking at being hit with. The

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other thing is we're looking at these
new proposals for ordinances. Well, if

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we're going to do these ordinances, then
Grant County needs to go in there and

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clean their own house first. I was
looking at the site over where they're

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going in and building the um playground
and cliff. If you go in there and look,

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they've gone in there and torn up
concrete. They've torn up asphalt and

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they've pushed that off into Turkey
Creek. Therefore, that contamination

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flows into the Hila River. Also, on the
other side of the street where the

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fairgrounds are, when the county went in
and dug that uh the place that cement

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slab, they took that dirt there that is
contaminated with the petroleum products

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and took it again and dumped it off onto
the the creek. And so there's a lot of

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brush and leaf matter that's been
disposed of all along that creek from

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the county. So current construction
that's going on at the fairgrounds. I

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see that debris also being taken over
and dumped into the creek. So, I've

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contacted a number of state and federal
agencies requesting information on how

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to file complaints against Grant County,
um, including doing an environmental

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hazard report because of the petroleum
products that are going to contaminate

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that creek. I know that in talking with
Senator Heinrich, that's one of his pets

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is the Wild and Scenic Act for uh, the
Hilo River. And since Turkey Creek flows

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into the Hilo River, we now have that
petroleum product as well as that other

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waste that's going to contaminate that
water system. So before you go looking

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at these ordinances and what they're
going to do to people within our

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community, I think you need to take an
internal look at yourself and not be

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like a bad parent that says, "Do as I
say do, don't do as I do." Thank you.

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» Thank you.
Do we have anyone else for public

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speaking?

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» Good morning everybody. My name is Dale
Dods. Used to own Roadrunner Disposal.

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My wife and I
sold here to Ela Sanitation.

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First I'm going to give our family has a
stake in this state. I love this state.

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My paternal side came here after World
War I. They ran worked at the grey

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ranch, the go. My grandfather ran the
burrow mountain homestead from the 30s,

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40s, 50s. On my maternal side, I'm
mostly Navajo, believe it or not. My

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grandfather paved 9152
passing special. He had a second grade

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education as a Navajo.
This is our state. We love it. So, now

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I'll get into facts and figures.
As of the census of July 2025,

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we had a population of 27,252.
Since then, up till July this year,

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we've lost about a thousand residents.
Now I'm Seer City 9700

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9,700 per approximately because I can
only go with what they tell me. Bayard

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2116, Hurley 1256, so on. If you take
off Santa Clara and Tyrone that that uh

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Garcia does and then Hila Sanitation
does out in the county.

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I broke it down into single residents
and and you have 62.2%

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single resident and uh 31 for uh mobile
home and non-traditional homes.

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I broke everything down to about and it
all comes down to those who are not

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serviced by Southwest
or UWS

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leaves Garcia and Hila sanitation.
So that leaves about 10,000 people who

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use the transfer stations or bring their
own trash and so on.

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And I figured it out how much it's going
to cost depending on whe because not

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being able to get answers concrete
answers whether the whispered and

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rumored $30 per month increase.
I'm using Santa Clara since I live there

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and our landfill just the landfill is
$9.13 a month. So, we'll kind of kind of

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loosely base everything on that because
I know it varies around the county.

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And I figured out approximately
how much would be coming into the

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landfill or supposedly into the county
on these fees.

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And I'm not going to mention specific
numbers because you know them. Now I go

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back to the fact that my cousin designed
the landfill that in the last 24 and a

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half years of working here. I know
people. I know the inner workings. And I

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was going to sell Roadrunner Disposal to
UWS

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and a person who works over whom you all
know well because I'm only going to

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mention mention one name here.
And he had the reason I sold to

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Jade is because I did the whole county
single-handedly for 24 and a half years.

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Imagine driving to Phoenix and back and
stopping every mile and getting out and

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throwing in. I was jumping in and out of
that truck 22,000 times a year. I earned

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every penny. And if I can make a 10%
profit on the year, it was a good year.

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He's finding these things out. It is
Grant County, New Mexico. We have a lot

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of older people. We have a lot of
retired people, including Mary Alice,

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one of my favorite customers of all
time. But so I broke that all down. And

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in essence, of course, everybody has
their usage fees and and now P&M, I

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noticed, has a writers and fees, i.e.
taxes.

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And I see both sides of the issue of how
they need to make money. The county

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needs to buy and make some. I'm a
business or was a businessman.

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And I know definitely in the workings of
that landfill and everybody in the

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business around here.
And I'm going to mention that one name

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now. Eric Sanchez.
One of the best people I ever knew. I

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loved him dearly. He almost
single-handedly transformed that

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landfill into what it should have been.
It's clean. It was orderly and all that.

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» Do you have 30 seconds?
>> Okay. So, in essence, but I figured it

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out. If the 30 goes on with the existing
my 199 it goes up uh 70% or 76.7%

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and otherwise it goes up 70%.
But anyway there's a lot of people

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they're going to change you're going to
have we're going to go back to at some

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point people dumping it back on the
roads and in the washes and that's what

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it's going to come down to. They still
do to a point but not like it was in the

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60s here.
>> All right everybody have a great day.

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Do we have anyone else for public
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» Yes.

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» My name is Condra. Can everybody hear
me? I don't like using a mic. Um, and uh

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I'm new to the community. My wife and I
just bought a house two months ago, so

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everything here is new to me. And I'm
not really that familiar with your u

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policies and procedures. So if I get if
I run a muck, let me know. But I want to

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uh talk about the ordinance itself and
try to get a little bit of clarity. Um

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under
definitions,

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it has landfill. It's defined as a waste
facility yada yada yada that receives

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refuge and sold waste. I'm not sure what
sold waste is, so I assume that's a

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misspelling. So you might want to
correct that before you approve these

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these u ordinances. Uh the other thing
under the powers of the county of grant

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it says it can execute agreements on
behalf of the county with any

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municipality county or other local unit
of government or any private entity. So,

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since I live outside of the city of
Silver City, I assume I'm a private

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entity and I hope I can make a contract
with the county because I take my trash

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to the landfill. It's only two miles
away. Um hopefully that would mitigate

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some of the cost to the county. Um

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the next one
was 7 C in the ordinance.

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All acceptable waste shall be placed in
a container provided by the county and

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shall be reduced in waist size to no
more than 4 feet in length.

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So can we put any width or height to
that or does four feet in length mean a

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certain thing in Grant County? Like I
say, I'm not I'm not sure, but that

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might need a little clarity there.
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blah blah blah blah. Okay, the big one
is the mandatory fees section

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10D.
It talks about the board shall establish

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a system of fees for solid waste
collection pursuant to a resolution of

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the board not to exceed the actual cost
to collect, transport, and dispose.

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Well, first of all, you're just going to
have a system of fees for the collection

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of waste. And then you're talking about
collection, transport, and dispose.

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And again, it's just clarity for me. I
would probably put um establish a system

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of fees for the handling of solid waste
and then go on to the actual cost. Um

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now, under actual cost,
again, there's no definition of what the

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actual cost is. Is it the operating
cost? Is it fixed cost? Is there going

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to be administrative costs or other
cost? The thing about actual cost of

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transport is certainly going to be
different from the southern part of the

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county than where I live, which is next
door to the to the uh landfill. So

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again, just clarity there. And it's
interesting which this this cost the

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cost which is a duly is going to be duly
introduced before the board. I don't

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want that job but it'd be nice to know
you know who has it

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yada yada yada.
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the next one is 12C
and it talks about um owner of property

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who has a contract with some waste
handlers. They can have that contract uh

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until the upon or let me read it. It
says, "Upon the expiration of the

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current term of any such agreements,
the owner shall begin receiving solid

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waste services from the county." Um,
so which means the county is going to be

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in charge
of everything unless of course there's

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separate agreements under the other uh
part of this ordinance.

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The question I have is uh when I bought
the house, I had to pay the previous

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owner for the landfill charges to the
end of the year. So, is the county going

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to honor that contract for me for the
end of the year or do I get a refund

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when this new ordinance goes in?
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the next thing, oh they talked about um
the 300 acres um exhibit one. Now I got

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this exhibit off the internet so you
know it has to be true. Um

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and in it it says application for waiver
of the solid waste collection fee

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land owners with 120 contiguous acres of
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» Thank you sir. Oh, is that that? Yeah.
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» Thank you.

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» Do we have anyone else for public
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Thanks.

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Hear me one way or the other, but my
name is Katie Nolasco and I sent emails

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to all of you commissioners yesterday.
Um, I live in Arenas Valley

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and
as it is, if I was still hauling my

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trash myself to the dump, I'm 22 miles
round trip to the dump or 18 miles round

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trip to the Tri City station and the
dump got really earned its name um

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lately and so I quit going because it's
dangerous for me and for my vehicle. Um,

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but I figured that if as it is, I'm
paying a a hall service and that's

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approximately $35 a month. Um, if the
rates go up to 30 a month, the figure

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that keeps getting thrown around, and if
the haulers have to start paying tonnage

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instead of having that pass through,
then I'm probably going to be paying

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closer to $90 a month. And that's like
not doable. And I think there's a lot of

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questions I have about
if um if universal waste was contracted

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with the city, the town of Silver City,
just for picking up, how did it come to

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be that they're now kind of running the
show and

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deciding what our our charges are and
you know, just how did that happen? I

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don't understand the dynamics there. Um,
and I I know from experience with other

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people that their their experience with
that company is that prices went up and

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services went down. And I feel like
that's happening here. And it just feels

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like we don't have enough information
for you to really make a decision right

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now for for all of us. Um,
you have my email. So that's all I want

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to say for now. But I I think that
looking at the Oh, the other part is if

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all the people who currently use hall
services started, you know, couldn't pay

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for that anymore because that would add
add quite a bit to mine if they started

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showing up at the dump. Have you really
considered how much I mean that would

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just be an unworkable situation to have
all these people driving down non-stop

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trying to get into the dump? So, I think
that's a big factor to consider too

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because it just logistically it doesn't
make sense. But anyway, thank you.

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» Thank you.

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» Anyone else for public speaking?

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» Good morning, Mr. Chairman, board
members. It is 10 310, excuse me, 91026.

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My name is Rahul Torietta.
I would like to respectfully

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say what happened in 2020 20001
a year that is very special me for me my

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daughter was born on that note what
happened in 2000

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911 a day that will always remember the
lives that were lost the bravery of

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first responders and the lasting impact
of the world let us remember we can

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Bring our bridges together. Honoring the
past while choosing peace, the unity at

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the present. Let us give peace a chance.
I do honor on what happened to these

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brave individuals on 911.
A week ago today, I actually well

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yesterday I spoke about copper
production. A week ago today, I spent I

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sent the post about the memorandum that
would give the counties and towns a

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moratorum that would give a counties and
towns time to study not just on economic

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impact
but the water usage, power demands,

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infrastructure strains, and that means a
long-term for the residents and

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business. I do thank the county
commission for looking into the

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situation immediately. This isn't about
blocking progress. It's about making

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sure that the consequences before we
move forward. I'm speaking out for the

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majority of a lot of the Grand Canians
supporting this memor this uh moratorum.

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Personally, my opinion and my opinion
only. One issue we cannot afford

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overlooking the New Mexico water. We
live in the most arid state in the

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nation and as a state engineer notes
drought occurs part is our part of

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reality. About a large percentage of New
Mexico water usage is for irrigation

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agricultural
while a small percentage goes to the

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public and domestic supplies.
When we talk about new development,

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industry, data centers, and population
growth, we must ask the question, where

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is this water coming? Where is this
going? Where is this water going to come

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from? And what will it mean for the
people have already that live here? I

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pause on the moratorum. Can we give us
time to study the economic, the

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environmental, the water impacts before
making the decision that could affect

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for us generations to come? In New
Mexico, every drop really matters.

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Thank you.

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Do we have anyone else that'd like to uh
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I'm Michael Jade Ford. Morning. Um,
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I just wanted to take this moment to,
uh, thank you all here for accepting

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responsibility of mismanaging this issue
due to the waste management. Um, I also

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want to thank you all for considering
tableabling this ordinance and putting

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more time and effort into this ordinance
with with community input. Um, I do want

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to say that on September 8th after this
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uh, at the end of the day, I did have a
sit down with Ernie Myers with UWS and

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it was very telling. Um, but the only
thing I did want to mention uh that he

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said was this room on the ETH was
nowhere near as full as it should have

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been for any of us to be worried about
anything. Nobody cares is pretty much

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what he was telling me. And I just
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just wanted to say that I am only one
man, but I do believe I'm representing

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over 700 people. Um, so just keep that
in mind. I just there's 700 people in

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this room even though it looks pretty
empty. Uh thank you all.

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Do we uh anyone else?

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Okay. Going to go ahead and move on to
uh uh next item which is a proclamation

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for Grant County Fair days. Uh
Commissioner Flores.

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» Thank you, Mr. Chair.

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I'd like to read the proclamation for uh
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Whereas the Grant County Fair has stood
as one of the Grant Countyy's longest

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and among the most cherished traditions,
held at its historic location in Cliff,

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New Mexico for 77 years, consecutive
years, and continuing to thrive as a

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beloved annual celebration of community,
heritage, and rural life. And whereas

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the Grant County Fair has long served as
a showcase of our county spirit,

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promoting local talent, agricultural
craftsmanship, and the cultural richness

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of our residents, bringing together
generations to celebrate the arts,

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skills, and traditions that define Grant
County. And whereas youth organizations

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such as 4 and future farmers of America
have been foundational to the fair's

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legacy, offering countless young people
opportunities to learn, lead, and

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contribute to the agricultural
traditions that have shaped our

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community for decades.
And whereas the 2026 Grant County Fair

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will be held September 23rd through the
26th, continuing its proud history as a

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gathering place that honors our past,
strengthens our present, and inspires

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future generations.
And whereas all Grant County residents

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and visitors are welcome to join in a
celebration that reflects the enduring

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pride, resilience, and unity of our
rural communities.

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And now, therefore, the Grant County
Board of Commissioners does hereby

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proclaim the week of September 23rd
through September 26th,

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2026
as Grant County Fairs.

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Thank you, Commissioner Flores. Do we
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» Motion.
>> Second.

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» So, motion by Commissioner Flores,
second by uh Commissioner Medina. And do

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we have any discussion?

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» None. All right. All those in favor?
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» I motion carries. Do we have anyone here
for uh Grant County Fair days to accept

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the proclamation?
Okay. We'll get we'll get it to

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somebody. Thank you.
So, we're going to move on uh to the

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next item will be
uh public open a public hearing and

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discussion regarding ordinance number
O-26-02

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solid waste con uh collection disposal
and fee ordinance of the of Grant

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County, New Mexico. Can I have a motion?
Motion open.

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» Second.
>> So a motion by Commissioner Medina,

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second by Commissioner Stevens. Do we
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» Okay, seeing none, Madame Clerk, can I
have a roll call vote, please? Chairman

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and commissioners, are you all aware
you're

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um open opening a public hearing to
discuss ordinance number O-26-02

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regarding the solid waste collection
disposal and fee ordinance. Chairman

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Punet,
>> yes.

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» Commissioner Medina,
>> yes.

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» Commissioner Shalley,
>> yes.

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» Commissioner Stevens,
>> yes.

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» Commissioner Flores,
>> yes.

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Thank you. Okay, opening up the public
hearing. Do we have anyone that would

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like to testify?

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Okay, seeing anyone see no one um
wanting to testify. Commissioners, do

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you do you have anything?
>> Commissioner Stevens?

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» Uh thank you, Chairman. Uh I have a a
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the ordinance um include in section 12
removing the waiver exceptions A and C.

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Um A is the one with the 300 contiguous
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that's not really um in use and there's
a perception uh that it it's an unfair

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exception. Um, and then with C, it's
confusing because it implies that if you

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have an existing agreement, um, that you
can apply for a waiver, uh, like with a

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hauler, but that's not in fact the case.
So, I think it, um, it's created a lot

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of confusion. So, I think we should
eliminate that since that's also not in

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use. And then on section B, um
I would like to add the the term

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occasional use to that as well. So it
would read, "An owner of an

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uninhabitable or occasional use unit as
defined in section two of the ordinance

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shall have opportunity request a waiver
of the solid waste collection fee due to

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uninhabitability or occasional use."
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those are both defined in the
definitions, the occasional use and the

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uninhabitable, and that would cover
people uh, like Commissioner Flores

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mentioned the other day about who maybe
have a cabin that they rarely occupy.

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Uh, so they could apply for a waiver. We
had some discussion Tuesday about brush

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and compost piles. And um I I thought a
lot about how and whether to incorporate

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language to say that those are okay, but
came to the conclusion that I think it's

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not needed because section 5A refers
only to composition of residue that is

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unsanitary or hazardous to public
health. And these brush piles are not uh

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hazardous or unsanitary.
And someone in public comment mentioned

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if you were mad at your neighbor, you
could call and say they have a brush

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pile and that could, you know, try to
get them in trouble. But if if the

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enforcement officer went out and looked
at it and determined that it was not

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unsanitary or hazardous, uh I think it
would uh it would be fine.

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So those were my proposed changes. And I
was going to go ahead and um make a

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motion that we approve, but I do
recognize that uh other commissioners

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have have brought up um some changes
they would like to see happen and we've

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heard a lot from from our public.
So I I'm not against tableabling it. I

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do think that it needs to uh come up
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just a reminder, the authority
determines the rates uh for the

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municipalities and the town and the
county and those rates are effective

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September 1st. So, we're already paying
those rates, and the longer we delay in

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changing the rates that we charge to uh
residents of uninccorporated Grant

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County, the more the county uh foots the
bill, for lack of a better term. So, I I

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do think we we shouldn't delay. I also
want to just say again that this

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ordinance does not set the rates. So
there's almost all of the public input

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has been against a rate increase, but
this ordinance doesn't set the rates.

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This ordinance is simply uh
updating the the law about solid waste

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for the county, not for everyone in the
county because it doesn't apply to the

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municipalities. Um, and I did write out
some things that I've learned uh on the

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Solid Southwest Solid Waste Authority
board uh over about the last year and

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our county staff did share that uh the
FAQs on the website and the Facebook. Um

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I've also been uh doing my best to
respond to all the calls and emails. Um,

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a couple other things that I want to say
are there there's been a lot of talk

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about haulers and again this really
doesn't apply to the ordinance. This

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this is really more a discussion between
the authority who operates the landfill

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and the private haulers. Uh but because
it keeps coming up, I I think it's

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important to say that
the the fact is haulers have to pay the

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gate rate at the landfill, the tipping
fees, unless they have an exclusive

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contract within an authority member's
jurisdiction. The and again the

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authority members are Santa Clara,
Hurley, Baird, the town, and the county.

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The issue with the county is we don't
have an exclusive contract with a

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hauler. So um that that's why it's been
uh more complicated and for those

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haulers with an exclusive contract there
is an established monthly allowance and

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tonnages above that allowance uh are
build at the gate rate. So but again

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that's between the authority and the
haulers. it it has no bearing on uh the

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county and and this ordinance unless we
create some sort of a waiver or um an

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exception.
My concern with doing that would be that

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the more waivers you create, the more
the cost shifts to everyone else. So, if

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you had, for example, a way where a
hauler could negotiate a discounted rate

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with the ca with the county by applying
for a waiver for, let's say, 700 or 750

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customers, that just makes everyone else
have to pay more because the county has

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to pay that flat rate.
So, um, administratively, I'm not sure

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how that would work. And I do think um
we could keep talking about it between

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now and and when this comes up again.
Want to make sure that I covered all my

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points.

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Uh there there have been a lot of rumors
about, you know, a $60 charge, but this

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ordinance does say that the county can't
charge more than the cost. And the cost

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calculated by the authority is basically
$30 per household. So it can't be over

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that. And there was also um some public
input which I really appreciated about

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gross receipts and sales tax. And first
gross receipts is already being used. We

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are already using gross receipts um to
pay solid waste. And really gross

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receipts is sales tax. There may be a
way, you know, to try and do that

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differently or calculate a different
percentage or increase it, but my

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understanding is we're fully utilizing
gross receipts to try to reduce the

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bill. That's that's why, you know, if we
end up charging 26 or $27,

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um, but the real cost is $30, that
difference is coming from gross receipts

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tax.

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There's also been a lot of comments
about not wanting to enrich a

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corporation uh like Universal Waste. And
I want to make it clear that this the

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Southwest Solid Waste Authority is a
public entity. It is true that we

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contract with Universal Waste as a
management company, but people imply

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that if they pay tipping fees, it's just
going straight into the pocket of

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Universal Waste. And that's not true.
it's going to the authority and now the

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authority does pay a management fee uh
to universal waste but it's different

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and I think it's worth noting there's
also been some fear that the authority

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is just going to hand hand the reigns
over uh to this private company but I'm

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confident that's not going to happen for
if for no other reason because as a

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public entity the authority can get uh
public dollars. We utilize Colonia's

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funding and capital outlay funding and
rural infrastructure fund funding and uh

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a private corporation can't do that. So
that that ensures that we the public

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will remain
um in leadership there.

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Um I also you know there's been talk
about this 500 pound allowance. The

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average person generates 147 pounds of
trash per month. So 500 pounds is a

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fairly fairly high um allowance.
And and after that the tonnage or the

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tipping uh rate is calculated, you know,
prorated. So if it's $80 a ton and you

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bring half a ton, then you pay $40 after
your 500 pound allowance.

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Um,
in summary, I think that uh the

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authority should keep working with
haulers and should keep hearing from the

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public. But as far as our our
responsibility as county commissioners,

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we do need to as soon as we can approve
this ordinance so that we can uh

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determine the rates charged by
resolution.

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Um and and so after after this
discussion, I would support tableabling

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it just to make sure that we all have
ample opportunity to go over this

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ordinance one more time and see if
there's any changes and have our

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attorney review it. That's
>> anything else, commissioners?

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» Yes. Thank you. Thanks for reviewing all
those uh

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responses to various comments that we've
all heard and how this works. And our

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our dilemma
right now is

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that uh our community is asking for
clarity on exactly what they would be

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paying for and if they
like in my district

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uh Tyrone
contracts as a homeowners association.

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So they're not like
they're not like uh it's similar to the

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town of Silver City but not exactly. But
as a homeowners association they

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contract with a waste hauler to take the
their waste and everybody in the as I

416
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:12,960
understand it in the homeowners
association needs they don't have a

417
00:39:09,520 --> 00:39:18,560
choice. They pay for that
and I and it's a convenience

418
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:24,000
for the homeowners to have somebody else
haul it to the landfill for them. But

419
00:39:21,599 --> 00:39:30,880
what's not clear, it's just one thing
about that is if they since they're in

420
00:39:28,079 --> 00:39:36,320
an un unincorporated area and they're
paying whatever the fee that we set as

421
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:42,640
resolution
and then their hauler is also paying a

422
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:49,200
tipping fee. Is that
uh it it looks like to the community

423
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:54,880
that that's double counting? And they're
not the only ones. There's trailer

424
00:39:50,960 --> 00:40:03,599
courts. I I talked to someone familiar
with Rose Valley RV. They I believe have

425
00:39:59,920 --> 00:40:09,839
a contract to haul their waist. So
they're in the same boat.

426
00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:16,320
uh and
so the confusion there's confusion about

427
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:25,119
that and there's not clarity and that's
why I offered some potential solution to

428
00:40:21,200 --> 00:40:31,200
that would be okay
um we're the county's getting a flat fee

429
00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:36,560
but if somebody's also paying a a
tipping fee it shouldn't it shouldn't

430
00:40:33,839 --> 00:40:42,320
cover the cost of collection and hauling
age, but at least the tipping fee

431
00:40:39,520 --> 00:40:48,320
portion of whatever they're paying
probably should come off of their

432
00:40:45,359 --> 00:40:55,280
monthly bill so that they're not paying
the same fee twice.

433
00:40:50,880 --> 00:41:03,359
I I know that's a headache to figure out
for the whole county, but it but it I

434
00:40:59,760 --> 00:41:13,280
think um it would provide clarity if we
could come up with a way to manage that.

435
00:41:07,599 --> 00:41:19,280
Um, I offered other uh
uh solutions to make sure somebody isn't

436
00:41:17,040 --> 00:41:25,119
going to be prosecuted
for having a pile of rock or sand or

437
00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:32,319
other things that are classified as
waste on their property or brush.

438
00:41:29,280 --> 00:41:38,480
And but I agree
that with Commissioner Stevens that the

439
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:42,319
way the ordinance is written already
already

440
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:50,000
um
addresses that. It's not as concise as

441
00:41:46,079 --> 00:41:58,160
what I proposed, but I think
Commissioner Stevens is correct. that's

442
00:41:52,960 --> 00:42:03,920
not likely going to be uh an issue for
the residents of our county if we leave

443
00:42:00,400 --> 00:42:08,560
that part of the language the same.
Um

444
00:42:06,319 --> 00:42:15,520
but I did convert
I did propose to modify

445
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:20,720
um section 12
A

446
00:42:17,839 --> 00:42:27,359
which um
was the waiver that historically was

447
00:42:23,839 --> 00:42:35,040
used by uh ranchers and farmers who
managed their waste onsite.

448
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:41,040
And um but
I don't think that's happening anymore.

449
00:42:38,079 --> 00:42:46,400
And although I have heard that some
people still burn their trash.

450
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:50,560
Um,
so I'm in agreement that one could go

451
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:57,599
away,
but I modified it to allow a waiver that

452
00:42:55,359 --> 00:43:03,920
I was just talking about that if a
homeowners association

453
00:42:59,920 --> 00:43:09,400
is paying a tipping fee in addition to a
hage fee that at least

454
00:43:09,520 --> 00:43:17,920
it seemed reasonable to me that they
could um get a reduction. I don't know

455
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:26,160
that it w it wouldn't eliminate the the
the ex u

456
00:43:22,319 --> 00:43:32,640
the the county fee, but
it it should be reduced if that's a

457
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:38,000
double double fee. And maybe maybe the
solid waste authority could clarify

458
00:43:34,800 --> 00:43:45,359
whether it is or isn't a a double
counting fee there. But at least I

459
00:43:41,119 --> 00:43:51,119
offered a language proposal that uh
could be considered by the board

460
00:43:48,880 --> 00:43:55,319
that I think does belong in this
ordinance, not not not

461
00:43:55,760 --> 00:44:04,240
in some other document. But
um

462
00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:08,640
I do think it it should be tabled. My
off my change should be reviewed by

463
00:44:07,119 --> 00:44:16,880
attorneys
and probably by our solid waste staff to

464
00:44:14,000 --> 00:44:23,119
see if that's even feasible for them to
do something like what I'm suggesting. I

465
00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:30,240
do realize though that if they if if we
as a board agree to that that our bill

466
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:36,079
for all the rest of the county residents
like Commissioner Stevens said is going

467
00:44:33,119 --> 00:44:40,720
to go up even higher
uh because we get a certain bill from

468
00:44:38,240 --> 00:44:47,760
the solid waste authority and it and it
has to be paid and it shouldn't be paid

469
00:44:43,839 --> 00:44:52,319
out of our uh general fund which is
probably going to have to happen this

470
00:44:49,839 --> 00:44:56,680
this month because we didn't get this uh
ordinance uh passed.

471
00:44:56,880 --> 00:45:06,079
Um
those are my th those were my main uh

472
00:45:02,160 --> 00:45:12,640
concerns. I believe I I I probably have
some other um

473
00:45:09,280 --> 00:45:19,839
changes that I offered to clarify
things. Oh yes, one other thing. And

474
00:45:16,480 --> 00:45:26,240
uh maybe the business community,
extr territorial business community will

475
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:33,520
be mad at me. It's my idea, but I'll
admit that up here. But um our old

476
00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:38,319
uh ordinance has
provisions and a higher fee for

477
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:42,880
commercial
um

478
00:45:40,079 --> 00:45:49,040
habitable. I don't know if you I think
they just had a separate category for

479
00:45:45,040 --> 00:45:57,359
commercial entities that had a higher
fee because they a lot of commercial

480
00:45:53,520 --> 00:46:01,680
businesses would generate more waste
and that would put a bigger burden on

481
00:45:59,839 --> 00:46:13,200
our landfill
where we want that waste to go. So, I

482
00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:18,640
added back in the uh the option for
uh commercial to be charged at a higher

483
00:46:15,760 --> 00:46:24,000
rate potentially than a average
household.

484
00:46:20,720 --> 00:46:30,480
However, if a lot of those commercials
that may be operating out in Hila or

485
00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:36,560
Meimbrous,
they're probably already hiring someone

486
00:46:33,839 --> 00:46:41,200
to haul their waste to the landfill. So,
they should be

487
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:46,000
have the ability to get a waiver for
that because they're already paying for

488
00:46:43,839 --> 00:46:52,480
that additional waste that's going
there. And I I get that.

489
00:46:49,520 --> 00:46:58,800
So, um,
but I thought, well, if they're not, and

490
00:46:56,880 --> 00:47:04,400
then
at least that would offset what

491
00:47:01,920 --> 00:47:11,040
uh normal residents would need to pay in
order to cover the costs that were being

492
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:16,640
buil for for the landfill operation
and the satellite accumulation areas,

493
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:21,200
etc. That all does need to be shared by
the community. It's to all our benefit

494
00:47:18,960 --> 00:47:26,480
as we've heard to make sure that waste
goes to the right place and is managed

495
00:47:24,160 --> 00:47:31,560
in the right way.
So,

496
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:31,560
um

497
00:47:31,599 --> 00:47:42,720
I I agree with tableabling it so we can
uh figure out these details uh that need

498
00:47:40,079 --> 00:47:49,680
to go into the this ordinance and not
that don't belong in the resolution that

499
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:53,520
we'd be considering later. So,
that's all I had. Thank you.

500
00:47:51,839 --> 00:47:56,720
» Thank you, commissioner. Commissioners,
anyone else?

501
00:47:57,599 --> 00:48:03,839
Go ahead, Commissioner For.
>> Thank you, Mr. Chair. I do have a few

502
00:48:01,119 --> 00:48:09,680
comments. Um,
I appreciate my colleague, Commissioner

503
00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:15,680
Stevens, for clarifying a lot of the the
misconceptions.

504
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:19,760
And one one big uh one that I've read is
people are questioning who the Solid

505
00:48:17,359 --> 00:48:24,880
Waste Authority is. The board, I'm glad
she mentioned it. I'll mention it again.

506
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:28,640
The board consists of two appointed
members from the from the county

507
00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:32,960
commission, Commissioner Stevens and
myself.

508
00:48:30,160 --> 00:48:36,720
It consists of someone from each
municipality,

509
00:48:34,480 --> 00:48:40,880
Bayard, Hurley, Santa Clara, and the
town of Silver City. That's the That's

510
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:47,119
the solid waste authority. That's the
board. That's who has been talking about

511
00:48:43,839 --> 00:48:52,480
this since last year. That's uh the
board that has open public meetings. We

512
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:58,079
follow the same open meetings act that
anybody can come attend and give public

513
00:48:55,119 --> 00:49:04,400
comment each time we have a meeting.
It's it's it's public notice. It's um we

514
00:49:02,400 --> 00:49:10,240
hold them once a month. Correct. Once a
month, commissioner um

515
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:14,720
we're not we're appointed the
commissioner the chair appointed us when

516
00:49:12,319 --> 00:49:18,160
we first came on the commission to be on
the solid waste authority. I I didn't

517
00:49:16,240 --> 00:49:21,920
know what the solid waste authority was
until I got appointed to it and I

518
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:26,559
researched it. Nor did Commissioner
Stevens.

519
00:49:23,599 --> 00:49:31,480
So that's it's not a secret. That's the
Solid Waste Authority. Um

520
00:49:31,599 --> 00:49:39,200
like the gentleman said in in public
comment, if it's on the internet or it's

521
00:49:36,800 --> 00:49:44,960
on Facebook, it must be true. And and
unfortunately, many people believe that,

522
00:49:41,760 --> 00:49:51,920
but in reality, that's not the truth.
And I've said it before, um, if I'm in a

523
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:56,800
wreck this morning and I bump into
somebody, by the end of next week,

524
00:49:54,640 --> 00:50:03,119
there's a double fatal on Hudson Street.
Two people got flown out. And that's

525
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:07,599
just the way social media is. I guess
everybody likes to add a little bit to

526
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:13,280
make it readable. That's that's that's
my opinion. Um, I try to stay away from

527
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:17,119
it. I usually just scroll through it to
read it.

528
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:23,599
to get local news. And once I get local
news, I I get off of it. Um,

529
00:50:20,800 --> 00:50:28,079
nobody wants to pay more for anything. I
don't want to pay more for anything. I

530
00:50:26,000 --> 00:50:33,119
can't even afford to drive my my diesel
pickup anymore. So, I I park it. I I get

531
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:38,880
upset every time I drive by the gas
station. And diesel's at 577, I think,

532
00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:44,160
yesterday. Um,
but if if I want to drive it, I'm going

533
00:50:41,040 --> 00:50:47,760
to have to pay. Um, people can use
numbers to make anything look good or

534
00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:53,520
look bad.
I call it manipulating numbers. They can

535
00:50:49,839 --> 00:50:58,720
use percentages. They can use uh
anything.

536
00:50:55,200 --> 00:51:03,599
And the cost of beef, I mean, I think
the last time I read the news or heard

537
00:51:00,640 --> 00:51:10,000
the news gone up 300%. I mean, it used
to be a$1.78 a pound. Now it's $67 a

538
00:51:07,119 --> 00:51:13,280
pound. But I still buy it. I I have no
choice.

539
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:17,599
I'm in the same boat. We're all in the
same boat as everybody else in the

540
00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:21,839
county. We all pay the same taxes. We
all, not the same, but we all pay taxes.

541
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:26,880
Some people may have two or three
houses. I don't know, but they pay more,

542
00:51:24,079 --> 00:51:32,079
but we all pay our share. Like
Commissioner Shelley said, um it's

543
00:51:30,079 --> 00:51:37,760
almost like a social contract that we
chose to live here and we have to get

544
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:42,720
rid of our waste. We just can't go put
it in our backyard or leave it somewhere

545
00:51:40,559 --> 00:51:47,839
because we chose to put it in the right
place. And unfortunately,

546
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:56,000
we can't get rid of our waste for free.
I've enjoyed paying $5 a month for 30

547
00:51:50,480 --> 00:51:59,200
years. I I I try to buy um
my my kids every time they like a

548
00:51:57,920 --> 00:52:03,760
specific candy bar when I go to
Albertson's.

549
00:52:01,119 --> 00:52:08,319
I remember a candy bar was 79 cents. I
don't know how long ago, but now it's

550
00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:12,800
like $2.79 for a candy bar, but I still
buy it. I have no choice. I mean, I do

551
00:52:11,440 --> 00:52:18,720
have a choice, but I want my kids to
have it. It's It's just I have no choice

552
00:52:15,680 --> 00:52:24,800
to pay this landfield fee. We have no
choice. And at the end, I talked to um

553
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:29,119
our assistant county manager. We're
looking at

554
00:52:26,480 --> 00:52:34,319
26.50 give or take around that that
figure a month. that that's a 2150

555
00:52:32,720 --> 00:52:39,920
$21.50
increase a month. It's now going to be

556
00:52:36,559 --> 00:52:44,720
placed on top of the $5
is going from $5

557
00:52:42,240 --> 00:52:52,720
to 2650 and that includes the $5 we're
paying now. 2650 a month. We are still

558
00:52:49,359 --> 00:52:57,760
well below the industry standard. If we
choose, I know the county manager and I

559
00:52:54,800 --> 00:53:01,040
and other people choose to hire a
contractor to go pick up my garbage

560
00:52:59,200 --> 00:53:06,640
because it's more convenient for me. I'm
still going to pay it because I just

561
00:53:04,319 --> 00:53:09,359
don't have time to go to the landfill or
I don't want to go to the compactors.

562
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:13,200
The compactors are going to be
strategically located throughout the

563
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:17,599
county where I can go to the county to
the compactors, throw it in there 24

564
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:21,119
hours a day and get rid of my trash. I I
don't want to do that. I'll keep paying

565
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:26,880
the the guy that comes and picks up my
trash. I live in the county,

566
00:53:24,079 --> 00:53:32,160
but it's 2150.
I've paid $5 a month since 1996, right?

567
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:38,480
1998,
1998. $5 a month. I I wish we could all

568
00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:43,680
be paying the same price for something
from 1998.

569
00:53:40,880 --> 00:53:48,520
But it has to it has to increase. Things
increase every day.

570
00:53:45,520 --> 00:53:48,520
Um,

571
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:57,920
there's always going to be people people
that are negative. I've quickly

572
00:53:53,920 --> 00:54:02,559
understood that in my career along with
anyone that's dealt with the public, you

573
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:08,240
can never make any everybody happy all
the time. Regardless of what you do,

574
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:12,400
regardless of what you do, you can never
make everybody happy.

575
00:54:10,240 --> 00:54:16,480
And I chose I chose that when I chose to
run for office to try to do the best I

576
00:54:14,319 --> 00:54:20,400
can for the county. But there's always
going to be that handful of people that

577
00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:26,160
are negative.
And you I call them keyboard warriors

578
00:54:24,240 --> 00:54:29,920
because they're really really brave
behind a computer screen or behind the

579
00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:33,760
phone.
But

580
00:54:31,599 --> 00:54:38,800
like the gentleman said earlier, he's
representing 700 people.

581
00:54:36,480 --> 00:54:43,920
There's not 700 people in this room.
There's less than 20. We've been talking

582
00:54:41,200 --> 00:54:46,640
about this for a year. It's finally come
up now. The last few meetings that

583
00:54:45,359 --> 00:54:50,079
people are coming and it's just a
handful of people. I will say that I

584
00:54:48,720 --> 00:54:57,119
appreciate the time that people have
taken to send me emails

585
00:54:53,760 --> 00:55:02,079
saying um I can't increase. Every email
that I've received has been kind and

586
00:55:00,559 --> 00:55:07,440
courteous
and they asked me to to do the best I

587
00:55:05,200 --> 00:55:14,000
can for them. Some people have said, "I
understand rates increase." People have

588
00:55:10,480 --> 00:55:18,880
talked about um they go to the forest,
they go here, they go there several

589
00:55:16,079 --> 00:55:24,720
times. I guarantee you that they've had
to put at least $20 worth of gas each

590
00:55:22,160 --> 00:55:31,680
week to go to the forest if they're
driving a regular car. I mean, it's not

591
00:55:28,640 --> 00:55:37,920
cheap to drive your vehicle anymore, but
we're talking a 2150 increase.

592
00:55:36,160 --> 00:55:42,319
2150.
2650 total for the month to throw our

593
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:45,599
trash. Otherwise, we're not going to
have a landfill. That's what we've been

594
00:55:44,319 --> 00:55:50,160
told on the authority. We're not going
to have a landfill because the county

595
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:56,160
can't continue to maintain the landfill
at the current rate we're at.

596
00:55:53,599 --> 00:56:00,319
And people I challenge people to come
back to us and say why don't we have a

597
00:55:57,599 --> 00:56:04,559
landfill because
someone mentioned we have I drive 22

598
00:56:02,400 --> 00:56:08,559
miles round trip to the landfill. Well
now consider driving the Deming or even

599
00:56:06,480 --> 00:56:12,640
further to to the landfill because you
have couches, furniture, something that

600
00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:16,960
you have to get rid of a landfill.
Now you're talking over a 100 120 miles

601
00:56:15,119 --> 00:56:20,960
round trip
with the price of gas. I guarantee you

602
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:26,160
that's going to cost you $100
at least. I won't take my truck because

603
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:31,200
it'll cost me more than that.
But nobody likes to play pay more. I

604
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:35,200
have older folks. I have older
relatives. Yeah, it's going to be hard

605
00:56:33,280 --> 00:56:40,480
on them. I understand that. We're we're
all in this together. We're not here on

606
00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:46,400
this commission to to increase anything,
but at some point we have to. I don't

607
00:56:42,720 --> 00:56:51,839
know why my predecessors didn't deal
with this issue

608
00:56:48,559 --> 00:56:56,880
within the last 28 years. I I don't
know. But unfortunately, I can't ask

609
00:56:54,559 --> 00:57:02,160
them. They're not here. But now we have
to deal with it. We're we're we're we're

610
00:56:59,119 --> 00:57:05,119
dealing with it. We have to we have to
deal with other issues as well. I've

611
00:57:03,680 --> 00:57:10,480
gotten a lot of emails about the data
centers and that's back and forth. And

612
00:57:08,319 --> 00:57:14,400
people can say wherever they want. They
can say, you know, you're you're you're

613
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:19,520
up there. You're doing this for whatever
reason. I'm doing it because I have to.

614
00:57:17,200 --> 00:57:24,480
Um, if if we didn't have to deal with
this, trust me, we'd move on and and

615
00:57:21,760 --> 00:57:28,640
deal with the fair or issues. I I like
dealing with with Cliff and the

616
00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:33,040
ballparks there and and the the library
and things like that that make people

617
00:57:30,640 --> 00:57:37,280
happy. But sometimes we have to deal
with that dirty business and it's a pun

618
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:40,400
because it is garbage we have to deal
with. That's what we're dealing with

619
00:57:38,160 --> 00:57:45,599
right now.
I understand people don't like change. I

620
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:50,079
don't like change. I I get upset on my
bank because my ATM doesn't car doesn't

621
00:57:47,760 --> 00:57:53,920
work and I tell myself every week I'm
going to go change my bank, but it's too

622
00:57:52,319 --> 00:57:58,559
much trouble. I don't want to take all
that documentation. I just rather suck

623
00:57:56,160 --> 00:58:04,720
it up and and keep calling them and say
I need need a new card. Illegal dumping

624
00:58:01,839 --> 00:58:09,599
has been brought up. Of course, there's
illegal dumping right now, but let me

625
00:58:06,319 --> 00:58:13,839
tell you this. Illegal dumping can be
easily tracked.

626
00:58:11,599 --> 00:58:19,680
You leave a footprint when you dump your
home garbage. Trust me, at some point we

627
00:58:17,280 --> 00:58:25,520
will find out who dumped that illegal
dumping and then that person will be

628
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:29,440
charged and they'll be fined for us to
go pick it up. Either way is you're

629
00:58:27,839 --> 00:58:34,319
going to pay. Yeah. Go dump in the
forest. There's people have cameras

630
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:39,119
everywhere. Hunters have game cams
everywhere. Every we're I think the

631
00:58:36,240 --> 00:58:43,280
average person's recorded 60 times a
day. I think my IT person told me at

632
00:58:40,880 --> 00:58:46,400
Western, whether street cameras, flot
cameras, whatever you want to call them,

633
00:58:44,559 --> 00:58:53,760
home cameras,
someone will see you dumping illegally

634
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:57,200
and the sheriff or the the the the code
enforcement officer or some law

635
00:58:55,040 --> 00:59:02,240
enforcement officer at some point will
track you down and charge you and you'll

636
00:58:59,920 --> 00:59:06,400
pay a fine and you probably won't do it
again because that fine is going to be a

637
00:59:03,920 --> 00:59:11,440
lot of money.
But I I'll end with this.

638
00:59:09,200 --> 00:59:16,079
It's not easy being up here having to
tell people we're going to have to pay

639
00:59:12,799 --> 00:59:22,079
more. It trust me, if I could stay at $5
a month, I would stay at $5 a month. But

640
00:59:18,799 --> 00:59:26,799
I rather have a landfill. And we have to
increase our cost because we can't

641
00:59:23,599 --> 00:59:31,200
survive at $5 a month anymore. I've been
told that by the county manager several

642
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:35,760
times by by the the solid waste
authority, the commission, and I'm part

643
00:59:33,280 --> 00:59:40,400
of that commission.
People can say whatever they want. Like

644
00:59:37,280 --> 00:59:45,440
I said, I the good thing about me, I
I'll just not even click on that app,

645
00:59:42,799 --> 00:59:49,520
not even look at it,
and I'll sleep good at night regardless

646
00:59:47,200 --> 00:59:52,960
of what people say.
>> Thank you, Mr. Chair.

647
00:59:51,040 --> 00:59:58,960
» Thank you, Commissioner. Well said.
Anybody else?

648
00:59:56,079 --> 01:00:04,079
» Um, thank you, Commissioner Flores, for
your comments. I really appreciate uh

649
01:00:01,040 --> 01:00:08,720
your points. I just wanted to add uh
that you know the other day I mentioned

650
01:00:06,559 --> 01:00:14,240
that it's apparent that Grant County
residents have a lot of pride in living

651
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:20,720
here and um and being part of the
community and I think that the way that

652
01:00:16,640 --> 01:00:25,440
we deal with our waste. Um it does it
should reflect that pride. I've learned

653
01:00:23,359 --> 01:00:31,200
a lot about working with the environment
department and the connections between

654
01:00:27,839 --> 01:00:37,520
waste disposal and water quality and air
quality and beauty um in our in our

655
01:00:34,880 --> 01:00:42,000
natural landscape which attracts tourism
and economic development. It's all tied

656
01:00:39,920 --> 01:00:46,240
together. So, I actually had one
constituent um suggest that we needed

657
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:52,240
bumper stickers that would say like
trash hero because uh we're we're all

658
01:00:49,599 --> 01:00:59,040
sharing a commitment to be responsible
in the way that we dispose of our waste

659
01:00:54,640 --> 01:01:06,160
and also to focus on the positive. Um it
it's not like this money is going to

660
01:01:02,880 --> 01:01:11,440
nothing. I I am grateful that we have a
local landfill and I sent a couple

661
01:01:09,200 --> 01:01:16,079
pictures to our our county manager this
morning of the new cell construction.

662
01:01:14,079 --> 01:01:22,480
It's a major undertaking. Those cells
are like a million dollars a cell. Um

663
01:01:19,119 --> 01:01:26,720
and we are are finishing up on two of
them and then hope to build another one

664
01:01:24,640 --> 01:01:32,480
that will take us 10 years into the
future. Um it's impressive. It's not

665
01:01:30,319 --> 01:01:38,480
just dumping trash in the ground. you
know, there's a three layer liner that

666
01:01:36,000 --> 01:01:43,200
goes into that to to protect the water
quality. Um,

667
01:01:41,040 --> 01:01:48,960
also just, you know, not taking these
services for granted. I remember uh my

668
01:01:46,319 --> 01:01:53,359
family several years ago went to BISE
and we traveled kind of in off the

669
01:01:51,359 --> 01:01:57,839
beaten path and saw that people just
disposed of their trash in the forest,

670
01:01:56,160 --> 01:02:03,520
you know, just off the side of the road.
And it was shocking to me because coming

671
01:02:00,799 --> 01:02:09,440
back and seeing sidewalks and paved
roads and trash collection, it's these

672
01:02:07,760 --> 01:02:16,319
are services we shouldn't take for
granted. And you know, I am grateful

673
01:02:13,119 --> 01:02:22,799
personally every time I hear on Tuesday
morning the trash truck coming by, I I

674
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:32,319
say a little prayer of gratitude that
that I have that service. Um, and then

675
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:38,240
finally, uh, one, uh, public commenter
talked about sold waste, and I just want

676
01:02:35,040 --> 01:02:42,960
to, uh, clarify that it said sold waste
or refuse. I think what that refers to

677
01:02:40,720 --> 01:02:50,400
is the fact that the material coming in
to the landfill, um, most of it is refu

678
01:02:47,040 --> 01:02:55,440
that goes into those cells, but metal
and cardboard,

679
01:02:52,319 --> 01:03:02,079
um, steel and aluminum, those items are
sold, uh, for recycling. So, I think

680
01:02:59,680 --> 01:03:05,520
that's what that refers to. Uh, again,
thanks everybody for your attention to

681
01:03:04,319 --> 01:03:10,559
this.
>> Thank you.

682
01:03:07,520 --> 01:03:13,599
Guess we're done. Um, can I have a
motion to close a public hearing?

683
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:16,720
» Motion.
>> Second.

684
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:20,480
» A motion by Commissioner Medina, second
by Commissioner Stevens to close a

685
01:03:18,480 --> 01:03:24,559
public hearing. Madame Clerk, can I have
a roll call on this, please?

686
01:03:23,280 --> 01:03:31,559
» Chairman and Commissioners, are you
aware you are closing the public hearing

687
01:03:26,880 --> 01:03:31,559
for ordinance number 0-26-02?

688
01:03:32,240 --> 01:03:35,680
Chairman Pon,
>> yes.

689
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:37,200
» Commissioner Medina,
>> yes.

690
01:03:36,079 --> 01:03:39,359
» Commissioner Stevens,
>> yes. Commissioner Shelley,

691
01:03:38,960 --> 01:03:42,319
» yes.
>> Commissioner Flores,

692
01:03:40,400 --> 01:03:46,960
» yes.
>> Thank you. Public hearing closed. Moving

693
01:03:45,039 --> 01:03:53,760
on to item D, consideration of Grant
County Ordinance number 0-26-02,

694
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:58,960
solid waste collection, disposal, and
fee ordinance of the county of Grant,

695
01:03:56,319 --> 01:04:00,799
New Mexico. I'd like to make a motion to
table.

696
01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:06,640
» Second.
>> Um, hold on. I'd like to make a motion

697
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:10,960
to table this until our attorneys have a
time to review this and we have a little

698
01:04:08,799 --> 01:04:18,720
bit more input from the changes that
will be made. Um, and I'd like to see

699
01:04:14,480 --> 01:04:22,880
this back on the September 24th agenda
so it can be taken care of and hopefully

700
01:04:20,640 --> 01:04:26,160
voted. Do I have a second?
>> Second.

701
01:04:23,520 --> 01:04:32,240
» I have a second by Commissioner Flores.
Do we have any discussion?

702
01:04:29,920 --> 01:04:35,760
Let me see something.
And I sort of hate to say this, but I

703
01:04:34,240 --> 01:04:41,680
guess as a chair, sometimes you have to
say things that that uh you have to say

704
01:04:39,680 --> 01:04:45,520
or or at least
throughout there, but as a chair of this

705
01:04:43,440 --> 01:04:51,280
board of commissioners, I do want to
tell our fellow commissioners,

706
01:04:48,240 --> 01:04:59,119
this delay is costing Grant County quite
a bit of money, taxpayer money.

707
01:04:54,400 --> 01:05:03,839
We have 13 days from here to the 24th.
If you guys need to sit in a cave with

708
01:05:00,960 --> 01:05:08,640
cell phone coverage to let the county
manager and our attorneys know what

709
01:05:06,640 --> 01:05:14,799
changes need to be made and the changes
that need to be made, please do it. This

710
01:05:12,240 --> 01:05:19,920
is costing a lot of money. Please do not
come up here on the 24th with more

711
01:05:17,920 --> 01:05:24,640
changes that haven't been discussed with
our attorney and our county manager. And

712
01:05:22,000 --> 01:05:29,359
I hate to be this way, but what prompts
me being this way, too, is we need to

713
01:05:26,880 --> 01:05:34,880
keep the public in mind.
just bringing them back and forth in

714
01:05:31,920 --> 01:05:39,039
public input and back and forth. We've
been discussing this for month after

715
01:05:37,200 --> 01:05:44,079
month and I think we should already be
at the stage of pulling the band-aid off

716
01:05:42,160 --> 01:05:51,280
the scab as far as what the fees are
going to be and and you know having

717
01:05:47,039 --> 01:05:58,400
heard from our public. So please
by you have 13 days to bring this up.

718
01:05:55,920 --> 01:06:02,960
Let's get this done, commissioners, and
please help our citizens get through

719
01:06:00,799 --> 01:06:08,079
this and we need to do what we need to
do. That's the only comment I have and

720
01:06:06,160 --> 01:06:11,640
if anybody has any other discussion,
please let me know.

721
01:06:12,079 --> 01:06:18,000
» Commissioner Stevens,
>> thank you, Chairman. Just a a quick

722
01:06:15,359 --> 01:06:23,119
question. Um, is it possible that when
this comes back up on the 24th that we

723
01:06:20,799 --> 01:06:28,640
could also have a rate resolution at the
same time or would that have to happen

724
01:06:25,119 --> 01:06:33,599
at a future meeting?
>> Mr. Chairman, commissioners, this

725
01:06:30,720 --> 01:06:37,520
ordinance calls for 14-day notice. Um,
so it would be

726
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:40,880
the staff and I have already talked
about this. So we would have that

727
01:06:38,880 --> 01:06:46,400
discussion on it was planned to be on
the 24th to provide that notice and then

728
01:06:43,839 --> 01:06:49,599
you can adopt that resolution in
October.

729
01:06:47,359 --> 01:06:54,960
» Okay. Thank you.
>> Do we have any further discussion?

730
01:06:53,200 --> 01:06:56,640
» Okay. See no further discussion. All
those in favor I

731
01:06:56,240 --> 01:07:02,319
» I
>> I motion carries. Items been tabled.

732
01:06:59,200 --> 01:07:06,960
Moving on to presentations under item E.
I have no idea how to say that word cuz

733
01:07:04,319 --> 01:07:10,000
I can't even say aluminum, right? But
it's Can we What is it?

734
01:07:09,280 --> 01:07:18,599
» Opioid.
>> There you go. Uh remediation co

735
01:07:14,240 --> 01:07:18,599
cooperation and Miss Hartley.

736
01:07:29,119 --> 01:07:33,760
Do I use this to change the slide?

737
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:41,520
Thank you. Um, Mr. Commissioner,
commissioners from Grant County, and

738
01:07:39,039 --> 01:07:46,160
county manager
Web. Um, my name is Shauna Hartley, and

739
01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:54,440
I'm here today to give you guys an
update on our project. Um,

740
01:07:50,240 --> 01:07:54,440
the last time I was here

741
01:08:02,799 --> 01:08:08,720
The last time I was here, we were
talking about actually onboarding uh

742
01:08:06,720 --> 01:08:14,079
Grant County and Luna County to our
collaborative. Um so we have a lot of

743
01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:21,600
good updates to give you today. So I'd
like to start off with um some local

744
01:08:16,719 --> 01:08:29,359
data to just update you on the epidemic.
um data for um public health issues is

745
01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:34,080
oftentimes solidified um after two
years. So the data that I'm presenting

746
01:08:30,960 --> 01:08:39,520
today is from the CDC and it's from
2024.

747
01:08:36,000 --> 01:08:45,759
So um in 2023
uh we actually had 948 people die of an

748
01:08:43,440 --> 01:08:53,759
overdose in New Mexico.
And in 2024, we actually had 775 people

749
01:08:50,319 --> 01:09:01,279
die of overdose in New Mexico. That is
173 people less. Um, and that is good

750
01:08:57,040 --> 01:09:05,520
news. However, um, in 2023
when it comes to the national ranking of

751
01:09:03,920 --> 01:09:10,480
the highest overdose rates in the
country, New Mexico was actually seventh

752
01:09:08,400 --> 01:09:16,480
and now we have actually moved to number
four.

753
01:09:12,239 --> 01:09:21,120
Um some of the other data that is um
true is that you know when the opiate

754
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:24,799
epidemic hit there were a lot of
safeguards that were put into place with

755
01:09:22,799 --> 01:09:29,359
pharmacies and physicians who were
prescribing opiates and these new

756
01:09:27,679 --> 01:09:34,719
numbers reflect that that was
successful. However, when um we're

757
01:09:32,880 --> 01:09:38,560
looking at our New Mexico data, we're
actually finding that there's been an

758
01:09:36,880 --> 01:09:41,359
increase in people that are overdosing
because of fentanyl and

759
01:09:39,600 --> 01:09:45,279
methamphetamines.
And when I looked at the data for our

760
01:09:43,679 --> 01:09:51,040
specific counties, which is nine
counties in one village, we actually are

761
01:09:47,679 --> 01:09:57,920
having an increase in overdoses. So, um
there were 68 overdose deaths in 2024

762
01:09:54,239 --> 01:10:03,520
and there were 66 in 2023.
So, this data um is is interesting in a

763
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:10,640
lot of different ways. And what it tells
us is that, you know, we are driving our

764
01:10:06,800 --> 01:10:15,679
numbers down. However, um people are
dying more often because they're using

765
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:19,840
street drugs and they're using um
opiates that have fentanyl and or

766
01:10:18,159 --> 01:10:23,520
methamphetamines
um inserted in that. And oftentimes

767
01:10:22,159 --> 01:10:29,199
people don't know that they're using
that. When I looked at the data over the

768
01:10:26,239 --> 01:10:32,960
last two decades, I went all the way
back when I was preparing for this

769
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:37,920
presentation. And what makes New
Mexico's story very different than other

770
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:44,239
parts of the country that were really
impacted by this overdose um epidemic is

771
01:10:41,840 --> 01:10:49,199
that New Mexico actually has had um been
on the top 10 highest overdose rates in

772
01:10:46,719 --> 01:10:56,480
the country for the last two decades.
So, I can't emp emphasize enough that um

773
01:10:53,120 --> 01:11:02,880
we've been dealing with this disease for
decades and um it's really really

774
01:11:00,080 --> 01:11:07,840
important that we start to make some
really good decisions on how to help

775
01:11:05,920 --> 01:11:12,320
people with this disease. You know,
substance use is a disease. It's just

776
01:11:10,080 --> 01:11:18,640
like diabetes. It's something that can
be treated. Um and we really want to

777
01:11:16,880 --> 01:11:22,640
move forward because this is something
that's very very chronic in our state

778
01:11:20,719 --> 01:11:28,320
and has been very chronic in our state
for a long long time even before the

779
01:11:25,440 --> 01:11:32,000
epidemic.
The next slide that I'm presenting is

780
01:11:30,480 --> 01:11:38,000
basically giving you guys an update on
our project. Um Grant County has joined

781
01:11:35,840 --> 01:11:41,520
our project actually in December of
2025.

782
01:11:39,679 --> 01:11:46,960
Um I've been on this project since
inception and started it in 2023. I

783
01:11:44,719 --> 01:11:52,080
started it with uh basically a needs
assessment by looking at national data

784
01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:58,000
uh local data, New Mexico data, county
data and we as a collaboration at that

785
01:11:55,280 --> 01:12:02,480
point we were seven counties um really
put forth what our first strategic plan

786
01:11:59,920 --> 01:12:06,480
was going to be um in regards to
improving both prevention and treatment.

787
01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:10,480
So that first year was really an
assessment. Our second year was our

788
01:12:08,640 --> 01:12:17,840
first year of implementation which was
FY24, FY25 and that was really kind of

789
01:12:14,239 --> 01:12:23,360
getting um an understanding of what the
counties wanted and we really

790
01:12:19,520 --> 01:12:29,040
implemented more regional uh projects um
meaning that all of the counties

791
01:12:25,280 --> 01:12:34,719
benefited from the same project. So um
we weren't looking at individual county

792
01:12:31,199 --> 01:12:40,239
priorities as closely as we are now. In
2025 2026 that was our second year of

793
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:45,920
implementation. We really started to
branch out and look at individual uh

794
01:12:43,600 --> 01:12:51,840
county projects and I'm going to talk
about that here in a little bit. But now

795
01:12:48,159 --> 01:12:57,199
today, we're able to provide a regional
um im improvements with prevention and

796
01:12:54,800 --> 01:13:02,080
treatment, but we're also able to have
each county actually identify what they

797
01:12:59,199 --> 01:13:07,679
would like to um work on individually.
Um we are entering our third year of

798
01:13:05,199 --> 01:13:12,640
implementation and I'm really looking
forward to actually having a lot more

799
01:13:10,480 --> 01:13:19,360
infrastructure and operational changes
and improvements in our communities.

800
01:13:16,320 --> 01:13:24,080
This next slide identifies um the county
priorities and the funded projects that

801
01:13:20,960 --> 01:13:28,320
we had in FY2526.
And when I looked at this as a whole,

802
01:13:26,480 --> 01:13:32,960
what we were really focusing on in all
of our counties um were focusing on is

803
01:13:31,120 --> 01:13:38,239
really addressing what's called emergent
needs for individuals. Um, I think a lot

804
01:13:36,640 --> 01:13:42,400
of times people think that people that
have substance use issues are

805
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:46,719
individuals who are always in crisis
and, you know, they're getting arrested

806
01:13:44,400 --> 01:13:53,199
and they're going into hospitals and
actually that is um less of our

807
01:13:50,239 --> 01:13:57,360
population. Um, individuals that use
substances could be doing that for years

808
01:13:55,360 --> 01:14:01,600
and years and years and then, you know,
really never actually engage in any

809
01:13:59,280 --> 01:14:08,560
treatment. and that emergent issue comes
around when their disease has really um

810
01:14:05,679 --> 01:14:13,520
just taken its toll. So when you look at
a really strong system for um change,

811
01:14:11,760 --> 01:14:18,480
you really want to have a really strong
system with emergent services, which is

812
01:14:15,840 --> 01:14:22,560
what we addressed over this last year.
And you also want to have services like

813
01:14:20,560 --> 01:14:29,120
outpatient services where people can go
into clinics and actually get services

814
01:14:25,360 --> 01:14:34,000
when they're not in crisis. Um when we
looked at our county investments this

815
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:38,239
year, we invested as a collaboration um
in detention centers, emergency

816
01:14:35,840 --> 01:14:44,080
responders, and law enforcement. Um you
do consider youth to be in that emergent

817
01:14:40,239 --> 01:14:48,320
category because um we know that when
kids use drugs or alcohol and they do

818
01:14:46,159 --> 01:14:52,960
that for years and years and years, then
their addiction can actually um be

819
01:14:51,679 --> 01:14:57,280
something that they live with for the
rest of their life. We did uh quite a

820
01:14:55,280 --> 01:15:03,840
bit of Narcan distribution and also
medication safety which we actually did

821
01:14:58,960 --> 01:15:09,040
in Grant County. Um we in
actually just a couple of months ago um

822
01:15:06,719 --> 01:15:13,600
and I got a really I had a lot of really
good feedback from your constituents who

823
01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:20,800
live in this community. Um we did a big
deter mail out and deter you know

824
01:15:17,040 --> 01:15:25,920
talking about um safe disposal of things
in your water system. Um, oftentimes

825
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:29,199
people don't know that if they have
medications they're not going to use

826
01:15:27,360 --> 01:15:33,760
anymore, they don't want to flush them
down the toilet because it actually can

827
01:15:30,880 --> 01:15:38,480
impact your water system. And Dera is a
product that um is good for the

828
01:15:35,920 --> 01:15:44,320
environment. You can actually you add
water to it. You can put up to 30 pills

829
01:15:41,199 --> 01:15:49,840
into that packet and it dissolves all
the solivants that are necessary and you

830
01:15:46,719 --> 01:15:53,920
can then throw it in the trash. So, um,
we did this in our other counties a

831
01:15:51,840 --> 01:16:00,159
couple of years ago, and so we did a big
mail out with, um, Dara to all of your

832
01:15:56,880 --> 01:16:05,520
constituents. We did over 13,000, um,
households. Um, everybody received a

833
01:16:02,800 --> 01:16:12,960
deter package and in that was also an
orientation for the OC in addition to,

834
01:16:09,199 --> 01:16:18,480
um, how to use that medication. Um, we,
you know, know this from the data. We

835
01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:23,440
know that New Mexico um is a population
of individuals that are older and

836
01:16:20,239 --> 01:16:27,520
oftentimes people um who are older have
surgeries and they're prescribed opiates

837
01:16:25,760 --> 01:16:32,080
or medications that they only want to
use for a short period of time. And so

838
01:16:29,600 --> 01:16:36,400
Dera is a really easy way for people to
not have to take something back to a

839
01:16:33,679 --> 01:16:41,280
drug takeback day or drive to go do it.
So on and so forth. So um that was a

840
01:16:39,199 --> 01:16:45,120
successful project that we implemented a
couple of months ago. Um, I did want to

841
01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:49,920
make a note and I was speaking to Daniel
about this before our presentation that

842
01:16:48,000 --> 01:16:54,640
um, in other counties what we've been
doing is actually um, making Dera

843
01:16:52,400 --> 01:16:59,600
available at all of our senior centers.
And that's something that's been really

844
01:16:56,239 --> 01:17:04,800
really successful um, for our seniors
um, because it's easy to access. They

845
01:17:02,239 --> 01:17:10,320
can pick up that um, anytime they go,
which is very frequent um, and it's been

846
01:17:07,280 --> 01:17:14,960
very easy for them to um, use that
product. The next slide I want to talk

847
01:17:13,040 --> 01:17:20,640
about which is um the last time I was
here I think I was just talking about um

848
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:25,679
our dropping of our application. Um we
did that successfully. I assisted uh

849
01:17:22,560 --> 01:17:31,120
region 6 with dropping two early
applications for the early funding

850
01:17:27,520 --> 01:17:37,199
through Bria and um SB3. And we had
talked about um these two applications

851
01:17:34,159 --> 01:17:42,880
being a mobile crisis unit um which will
actually be deployed out of two CASA. A

852
01:17:40,000 --> 01:17:48,080
mobile crisis unit is um basically a
compilation of different providers. It

853
01:17:44,880 --> 01:17:52,159
oftentimes um identifies a physician or
a mid-level provider, a nurse, a

854
01:17:49,760 --> 01:17:57,120
behavioral health person, um a peer
specialist. And what a mobile crisis

855
01:17:54,719 --> 01:18:01,440
unit can do is instead of someone having
to go to a facility to get services,

856
01:17:59,520 --> 01:18:07,600
that crisis unit actually goes to that
person. Um this mobile crisis unit is

857
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:12,320
for the entire region six. We actually
successfully uh received those dollars,

858
01:18:10,560 --> 01:18:17,360
$971,000
to support the operations of this mobile

859
01:18:14,400 --> 01:18:21,280
crisis unit. Um we actually have just
finished up the RFP. It's actually been

860
01:18:19,440 --> 01:18:26,159
posted and we're getting ready to
actually pull that um here in the next

861
01:18:23,679 --> 01:18:31,120
couple of weeks. We've assembled uh
assembled a committee that's going to be

862
01:18:28,480 --> 01:18:36,080
uh reviewing those RFPs and so we're h
we're hoping to have that service stood

863
01:18:32,960 --> 01:18:41,040
up here pretty soon. We also uh put in
for uh dollars to support the accredited

864
01:18:38,960 --> 01:18:45,280
adult residential treatment center in
Hidalgo County, which has been something

865
01:18:42,880 --> 01:18:51,360
that's been um talked about and been
worked on for many, many years. Um, this

866
01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:56,800
is a um old long-term care facility
converted into a social rehab program

867
01:18:54,159 --> 01:19:00,159
for adults, for males and females. Um,
individuals that might have a

868
01:18:58,080 --> 01:19:05,360
co-occurring behavioral health issue.
Um, and a substance use issue and are in

869
01:19:02,880 --> 01:19:10,560
need of medication assisted treatment.
Um, individual and family uh, services

870
01:19:08,320 --> 01:19:15,120
perhaps. And basically, um, an
opportunity to uh, step away from their

871
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:21,600
environment to to stop using drugs or
alcohol. We received a million dollars

872
01:19:18,000 --> 01:19:26,719
to support that same um process. We have
written the RFP. Um it is posted at this

873
01:19:24,960 --> 01:19:31,520
time and we're getting ready to look at
operators for that. So going back to

874
01:19:28,960 --> 01:19:36,239
that conversation about eent services.
We've been working really really hard in

875
01:19:33,280 --> 01:19:40,560
this region to cover that really kind of
complicated person who doesn't

876
01:19:38,159 --> 01:19:43,679
necessarily use services in that
traditional pathway. They don't make an

877
01:19:42,480 --> 01:19:50,320
appointment at a behavioral health
clinic. they're not necessarily engaged

878
01:19:46,159 --> 01:19:55,920
in services 247 with somebody. Um and so
we really have done a good job in this

879
01:19:52,320 --> 01:20:01,280
particular region with standing up um
eent services for individuals.

880
01:19:58,640 --> 01:20:04,560
So we're really proud of that. Um the
next slide I want to talk about is

881
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:09,360
something um I've been talking about for
a long time. Um I got introduced to

882
01:20:07,040 --> 01:20:14,560
drop-in centers um actually back in the
late 90s. Uh drop-in centers are what

883
01:20:12,159 --> 01:20:20,320
you call a low barrier uh treatment
option. They were originally um

884
01:20:17,760 --> 01:20:26,239
identified and stood up for individuals
that had a diagnosis of what you call

885
01:20:22,560 --> 01:20:30,880
SMI um oftent times um someone who might
have been diagnosed with schizophrenia

886
01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:36,800
um back back in the day. And the reason
for them was that um these are designed

887
01:20:33,840 --> 01:20:42,000
to be services that people can just drop
into. You don't have to make an

888
01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:48,000
appointment. They operate about um four
to sometimes seven uh days a week. Um

889
01:20:45,199 --> 01:20:52,239
the goal would be seven. Um some days
are designated for adults, some days are

890
01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:56,400
designated for you. So you can actually
break up those two populations. A

891
01:20:54,560 --> 01:21:00,880
drop-in center is not operated by a
behavioral health provider. That's what

892
01:20:58,000 --> 01:21:05,040
makes it really different. Um it is
operated by all kinds of different

893
01:21:03,120 --> 01:21:10,080
individuals. I've seen it done with uh
behavioral health providers or business

894
01:21:07,120 --> 01:21:15,040
individuals or um providers that are
really invested in people who are

895
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:19,679
unhoused. Um in that drop-in center
model, it's optimal to have people who

896
01:21:17,679 --> 01:21:23,440
are uh skilled, who have lived
experience. So, individuals who can

897
01:21:21,360 --> 01:21:27,199
really speak to someone who might need
resources, might need to get set up on

898
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:32,000
Medicaid, might need to access
transportation, um you know, housing, so

899
01:21:30,159 --> 01:21:36,880
on and so forth.
um those individuals um assist with that

900
01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:42,480
resource identification, but they can
also uh transport them to where they

901
01:21:39,679 --> 01:21:47,600
need to go um and really connect them to
that service. Um drop-in centers also

902
01:21:45,440 --> 01:21:50,800
have access to teleaalth. So if people
don't have connectivity where there are

903
01:21:49,120 --> 01:21:55,360
or they're unhoused, they can actually
go to that drop-in center and and

904
01:21:52,880 --> 01:21:59,920
access, you know, seeing their clinical
person, um having a doctor's

905
01:21:57,199 --> 01:22:06,080
appointment, so on and so forth. Drop-in
centers can also have showers. Um, some

906
01:22:03,199 --> 01:22:12,000
uh serve lunches, some have snacks, some
have uh clothing banks attached to that,

907
01:22:08,719 --> 01:22:16,480
so you're providing hard resources. Um,
and people can actually get their mail

908
01:22:13,679 --> 01:22:21,040
there. Um,
really high functioning drop-in centers

909
01:22:18,480 --> 01:22:24,800
actually have programming. So, um, a
couple of days a week, Department of

910
01:22:22,480 --> 01:22:30,960
Health might be coming to that program
and introducing people to, um, new

911
01:22:27,520 --> 01:22:34,880
education around STDs or vaccinations.
Um, I've worked with, uh, really

912
01:22:33,120 --> 01:22:39,280
sophisticated drop-in centers where law
enforcement actually comes and has

913
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:46,080
coffee with people and it's something
that, you know, basically, um, it's an

914
01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:50,800
easy place to get services and also kind
of get back on your feet. Okay. Now, the

915
01:22:49,199 --> 01:22:56,239
problem with drop in centers is they're
not reimbursed through Medicaid or

916
01:22:53,199 --> 01:22:59,679
through insurance. However, um the rule
transformation dollars were just rolled

917
01:22:58,239 --> 01:23:05,760
out here in New Mexico. These are
federal dollars. Um I had commit I had

918
01:23:03,520 --> 01:23:10,960
completed the application for all nine
of our counties in our village and I

919
01:23:07,760 --> 01:23:16,880
asked for $3.7 million to support dropin
centers in all of our communities. Um,

920
01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:22,960
this application was dropped a couple of
months ago and um, I should be finding

921
01:23:20,480 --> 01:23:27,440
out here pretty soon if we got it and if
we did get the rule transformation

922
01:23:24,800 --> 01:23:32,719
dollars, that grant is going to cover
uh, basically having one contractor

923
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:37,360
manage all nine counties in our village
for the drop-in center. So, there's a

924
01:23:34,239 --> 01:23:40,320
salary um, earmarked for that. Um, it's
going to cover the salaries of the

925
01:23:38,800 --> 01:23:44,400
individuals who are going to work at the
drop-in centers. And that can range

926
01:23:42,159 --> 01:23:49,120
from, you know, program coordinators,
people with lived experience, people

927
01:23:46,239 --> 01:23:54,800
that are, um, really good at navigation,
um, helping people get from point A to

928
01:23:51,280 --> 01:24:00,159
point B. Um, it also includes facility
improvements. So, we could actually

929
01:23:56,880 --> 01:24:05,360
identify a building that, um, you know,
requires a little bit of change. And

930
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:10,480
that could be that we might want to um
stand up a shower in that area or we

931
01:24:08,159 --> 01:24:14,880
might want to create a room that has
really good connectivity and really good

932
01:24:12,639 --> 01:24:20,639
confidentiality so people can access
their services in private. There is an

933
01:24:17,840 --> 01:24:25,920
aotment for equipment. So it could be
laptops, it could be uh vehicles, those

934
01:24:23,280 --> 01:24:30,000
types of things. And then basically um
we need to have a fiscal agent oversee

935
01:24:28,000 --> 01:24:35,760
that which is going to be Valencia
Counseling or Valencia County which is

936
01:24:32,400 --> 01:24:40,880
also the fiscal agent of our project. So
um I hope the next time that I come out

937
01:24:38,400 --> 01:24:44,880
that we'll be able to um identify that
we got these dollars and that we're

938
01:24:43,360 --> 01:24:49,600
working on a drop in center for your
community.

939
01:24:46,719 --> 01:24:56,960
The next slide I wanted to talk about is
um you know we talk about e services and

940
01:24:53,120 --> 01:25:02,639
we know that we have uh our 988 uh call
center that everybody in New Mexico can

941
01:24:59,760 --> 01:25:06,480
um call when they're having really not
necessarily a crisis, but they also

942
01:25:04,639 --> 01:25:12,560
might need resources or they're reaching
out. Um and you know, we've talked a

943
01:25:09,600 --> 01:25:16,960
little bit about um the activity of
these calls in all of our different

944
01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:21,199
counties. Um, one of the things that we
do have that is um, just completed, and

945
01:25:19,760 --> 01:25:25,679
I think I talked about this the last
time I was here, is that we actually

946
01:25:22,960 --> 01:25:30,159
have created a digital app. Um, and it's
called digital therapeutics. And it's an

947
01:25:28,159 --> 01:25:35,280
app that you can access on your phone
that has identified resources

948
01:25:32,239 --> 01:25:39,360
specifically for Grant County. Um, it
has screeners if people are concerned

949
01:25:37,199 --> 01:25:42,960
about their using um, and they just want
to know, you know, if I'm using or

950
01:25:41,199 --> 01:25:48,880
drinking or doing these things this
much, where do I fall in the need

951
01:25:45,040 --> 01:25:54,000
category? Um, it also has, uh, libraries
where people can get information. It

952
01:25:51,040 --> 01:25:59,920
also has a peer specialist that is on
call for this app 247.

953
01:25:56,560 --> 01:26:05,440
So, in our rural communities, we can no
longer say that we don't have services

954
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:10,239
that operate 247. they do. Um it simply
is through this digital app. We have

955
01:26:07,760 --> 01:26:14,960
this for adults, we have this for teens,
and we also have this for people that

956
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:18,719
take care of people. So um one of the
things that I'm just kind of putting out

957
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:24,239
there is when we look at uh Grant
County's call data, we certainly have um

958
01:26:21,840 --> 01:26:32,239
a need for it. Um when I look at your
data for the last year, you guys had 768

959
01:26:28,560 --> 01:26:36,800
calls to 988. Um, and if you can look at
that number, it really is going up.

960
01:26:34,639 --> 01:26:41,520
You've had a 250%
increase in your call volume over the

961
01:26:38,639 --> 01:26:44,960
last year. Now, I never think of people
calling and asking for help is a

962
01:26:43,120 --> 01:26:51,840
negative thing. And that doesn't say
anything about um perhaps the the the

963
01:26:49,920 --> 01:26:55,040
conditions of a county. I really always
want to say that because sometimes

964
01:26:53,600 --> 01:26:59,920
people look at those numbers and say,
well, there must be something where

965
01:26:56,880 --> 01:27:05,040
people are not able to access services.
That could be true. But the other piece

966
01:27:02,400 --> 01:27:10,320
of that is that we have been promoting
that 988 does have a relationship with

967
01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:13,520
our project and there's navigation
services where people call people back

968
01:27:12,159 --> 01:27:19,440
and make sure that they get what they
need. Okay. So, it's never a bad thing

969
01:27:16,320 --> 01:27:24,239
when people are um asking for that help.
As you can see, uh, Grant County has,

970
01:27:22,400 --> 01:27:27,840
uh, less than four people that are
signed up for that, and we have some

971
01:27:26,080 --> 01:27:33,600
really good ideas this year on how to
get people on boarded.

972
01:27:30,880 --> 01:27:37,760
So, um, like I said, we have these three
apps. One of them is for a person who

973
01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:44,800
might be concerned about their use. The
second person is a teen, 13 to 17, and

974
01:27:42,880 --> 01:27:48,960
the third one is the companion, the
person that's taking care of someone who

975
01:27:46,320 --> 01:27:53,520
might have an addiction issue. Um, I've
teamed up with the vendor who actually

976
01:27:50,800 --> 01:27:58,560
created the app. We have purchased all
the emails um, for all of the providers

977
01:27:56,560 --> 01:28:03,120
in Grant County and all of our other
communities. And what's different about

978
01:28:00,800 --> 01:28:06,639
rural counties is that there's a lot
more people that work for themselves

979
01:28:04,639 --> 01:28:10,159
because there's a lot less big
businesses where you have a lot of

980
01:28:08,480 --> 01:28:14,800
providers, let's say, working for
Presbyterian or for Loveless or, you

981
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:18,639
know, big organizations like Sage
Neuroscience in Albuquerque. Um, so

982
01:28:17,280 --> 01:28:23,199
we're going to start reaching out to
people directly. We want to make sure

983
01:28:20,320 --> 01:28:28,080
that they are informed of the app and
what it can do. More importantly, if

984
01:28:25,280 --> 01:28:33,520
they want to set up um an opportunity to
actually do a demo um with the provider

985
01:28:31,520 --> 01:28:37,440
or with their clients. So, we're
actually doing that pretty successfully

986
01:28:35,440 --> 01:28:42,000
in our detention centers now. When
people are leaving the detention center,

987
01:28:39,520 --> 01:28:46,239
um we're doing it with groups that um
are leaving and doing that directly with

988
01:28:43,760 --> 01:28:50,080
the person who is leaving. So, we're not
necessarily doing it with the provider.

989
01:28:48,560 --> 01:28:53,679
We're doing it directly with the person
that might want to need that. And we've

990
01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:58,320
had a lot of success in getting people
onboarded in that way. Um, the vendor is

991
01:28:56,960 --> 01:29:02,719
going to be reaching out two times.
We're going to be doing the third one.

992
01:29:00,000 --> 01:29:07,280
And we hope to increase um that
activity. I actually have a couple of

993
01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:12,560
the um rat cards that I'll share with
you when I'm done so that you can see um

994
01:29:10,080 --> 01:29:16,960
the QR code and how easy it is to get up
on board. Um, another way that we're

995
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:23,920
going to be promoting this app, and I'm
really um I'm really happy to say that

996
01:29:20,159 --> 01:29:30,000
Silver High School um has just recently
uh been onboarded for the OC to actually

997
01:29:27,360 --> 01:29:35,600
pay for the sporting event entry fees
with a caveat that we're able to do some

998
01:29:32,480 --> 01:29:41,199
prevention outreach. So, um we just
finalized theou with them. Um the OC is

999
01:29:38,880 --> 01:29:47,600
uh providing $86,000
and some change to this particular high

1000
01:29:43,840 --> 01:29:51,280
school. Um we have five uh prevention
outreach documents that we're going to

1001
01:29:49,120 --> 01:29:54,400
start giving out at that high school.
And the reason why we're doing it this

1002
01:29:52,719 --> 01:29:59,440
way is that we know that families are
busy and we know it's hard for people to

1003
01:29:56,639 --> 01:30:04,960
come to another prevention activity. And
so um sporting events in all counties is

1004
01:30:02,800 --> 01:30:10,320
where the majority of families are going
to. Um, and so we're really excited to

1005
01:30:07,920 --> 01:30:15,360
pair that with helping the school in
addition to, um, being able to do our

1006
01:30:12,880 --> 01:30:21,360
prevention work. Um, and we're also
working with all of the other schools in

1007
01:30:17,199 --> 01:30:26,080
your county. So, um, that was a big win.
Um, ideally how this is going to work,

1008
01:30:23,679 --> 01:30:29,600
this slide actually identifies, um, four
of the different rack cards that we

1009
01:30:27,679 --> 01:30:34,080
have. Uh we have a youth advisory
council that's been working really hard

1010
01:30:31,440 --> 01:30:38,560
on looking at the data and coming up
with what's the latest information on

1011
01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:42,880
vaping and using marijuana. That tends
to be something that kids are doing a

1012
01:30:40,239 --> 01:30:47,040
little bit more of. Um our other
prevention outreach documents are going

1013
01:30:44,800 --> 01:30:52,320
to be our apps so that families are
aware of this digital therapeutic

1014
01:30:49,520 --> 01:30:56,000
opportunity that they might not be. Um
this can be done in some different ways.

1015
01:30:54,080 --> 01:31:01,520
I'm working with some different um
schools to basically it's simple. Um

1016
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:06,400
people pass through and get their ticket
and they're given a prevention card. It

1017
01:31:03,360 --> 01:31:09,920
could be that simple. Um tomorrow I'm
going to Bin High School in Valencia

1018
01:31:08,239 --> 01:31:15,199
County and you know they're really going
to be doing it up. They're going to have

1019
01:31:12,000 --> 01:31:20,080
a table and um there's uh quite a bit of
youth that are really interested in

1020
01:31:17,600 --> 01:31:25,920
helping us. Um they've gotten a cotton
candy machine. they're they're really um

1021
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:30,800
doing a a big deal around that. So, it
can be as small or as big as we want to.

1022
01:31:28,480 --> 01:31:36,560
Um, but I think that this is a really
creative way to help a county um get

1023
01:31:35,040 --> 01:31:42,560
into the schools, which is not
oftentimes easy to do um support student

1024
01:31:39,840 --> 01:31:46,159
and families um with that, you know,
with that fee that it might seem like a

1025
01:31:44,880 --> 01:31:50,560
little bit, but you know, we've talked
today, I've been listening to all of you

1026
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:55,840
talk about this um you know, costs are
going up and I think anything um can

1027
01:31:53,199 --> 01:31:59,360
help with that. and it also provides an
opportunity to get this message out to

1028
01:31:57,520 --> 01:32:04,239
the community, which oftentimes is
probably the hardest thing to do.

1029
01:32:02,239 --> 01:32:08,560
So, the last slide I have is just kind
of a summary. Um, I've gone through um

1030
01:32:07,199 --> 01:32:14,719
most of the things that we've
accomplished um this year and we're

1031
01:32:11,360 --> 01:32:19,920
really um excited to represent our first
region. Um our collaboration, you know,

1032
01:32:18,400 --> 01:32:25,280
we represent a lot of different
counties, but this is region six is our

1033
01:32:22,239 --> 01:32:30,320
first region. Um this year we were able
to welcome Grant County and Luna County

1034
01:32:27,440 --> 01:32:36,560
and the village of Los Lunis to the OC.
Um we had I talked about the the digital

1035
01:32:34,239 --> 01:32:42,320
therapeutic apps. Um another thing that
we have done this year is we just got uh

1036
01:32:39,679 --> 01:32:49,440
accredited by the New Mexico Medical
Society. Um and the reason we did that

1037
01:32:45,679 --> 01:32:54,320
is we have um two physicians that have
done educational videos and they

1038
01:32:51,679 --> 01:33:00,560
actually are posted on our website. Now
um they had not had their continuing

1039
01:32:57,600 --> 01:33:05,760
medical units attached to that. So when
physicians do the training now they're

1040
01:33:03,760 --> 01:33:12,000
not able to actually get units for their
license. Um we just got accredited. um

1041
01:33:09,920 --> 01:33:15,920
just stood up uh what you call a
learning management system and now we're

1042
01:33:14,159 --> 01:33:20,960
in the process of converting all of
those educational videos into our

1043
01:33:18,480 --> 01:33:25,760
learning management system which then
will be continuing medical units for

1044
01:33:23,360 --> 01:33:28,800
physicians and medical providers. So if
you have any medical providers in your

1045
01:33:27,360 --> 01:33:33,120
community that are interested in
learning how to work with people for

1046
01:33:30,800 --> 01:33:38,080
addiction, we definitely have resources
and that's part of our consultation

1047
01:33:34,719 --> 01:33:44,080
services. Um we're going to continue to
u monitor grants. We um because we are

1048
01:33:41,840 --> 01:33:49,840
giving out individual dollars to our
counties, we've created a deliverable

1049
01:33:46,320 --> 01:33:55,199
process with that. So um one example for
your deter pouches is I created

1050
01:33:52,960 --> 01:33:59,120
questions with a QR code and I've
actually gotten some feedback on that.

1051
01:33:57,280 --> 01:34:03,440
So I want to just I don't want to just
stand things up and not monitor it. I

1052
01:34:01,679 --> 01:34:10,480
want to have feedback on how it works.
So, um that's going to be something that

1053
01:34:05,440 --> 01:34:16,239
we do um all the time. And, um you know,
we did get the early Bria funding to

1054
01:34:13,600 --> 01:34:20,159
support a mobile crisis unit. Um and I
have been working with all of our

1055
01:34:17,679 --> 01:34:26,159
counties on how do we start to intervene
with that emergent customer, right? How

1056
01:34:23,120 --> 01:34:30,719
do we start to um help law enforcement
and help hospitals and you know help

1057
01:34:29,040 --> 01:34:36,000
someone who's not traditionally going
through um that path of of services

1058
01:34:34,239 --> 01:34:42,960
because it can really affect all kinds
of systems um and we know that and then

1059
01:34:39,679 --> 01:34:48,320
we've also expanded Narcan um and Dera
in our communities.

1060
01:34:45,679 --> 01:34:52,800
So, um, that's an update on our project
and I wanted to know if you all had any

1061
01:34:50,159 --> 01:34:57,280
questions.
>> Commissioner Stevens,

1062
01:34:55,360 --> 01:35:02,960
» thank you so much for the presentation.
It's really excellent and I'm uh happy

1063
01:35:00,320 --> 01:35:10,320
to see that you focus both on prevention
and treatment. Um, and I am also really

1064
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:18,800
happy uh to hear about the status update
with the mobile crisis unit. It sounds

1065
01:35:13,440 --> 01:35:25,679
like um that money that 971,000
um has already been applied for and

1066
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:32,000
awarded and so now the RFP has been
posted. A committee is reviewing that

1067
01:35:28,719 --> 01:35:37,199
and then they that mobile crisis unit
would operate out of the Tucasa building

1068
01:35:35,280 --> 01:35:43,199
um as its base. Right.
>> Correct.

1069
01:35:37,840 --> 01:35:49,040
» Um so that sounds great. And then if the
rural transformation money is approved,

1070
01:35:46,719 --> 01:35:56,800
then it's possible that Grant County
could have a drop in center and it would

1071
01:35:51,840 --> 01:36:02,480
be a similar RFP process, right? To uh
to staff that you had broken down how it

1072
01:35:59,920 --> 01:36:06,080
would be staffed. Would that also
operate out of Tucasa or is that to be

1073
01:36:05,440 --> 01:36:11,440
determined?
>> To be determined.

1074
01:36:07,280 --> 01:36:16,960
» Okay. and and I think each county um
would determine that RFP process as

1075
01:36:14,400 --> 01:36:22,400
well. So I'll give you an example. In
Sakoro County, we have a very very

1076
01:36:19,360 --> 01:36:26,960
established drop in center. Um it's
probably one of the most sophisticated

1077
01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:32,159
dropin centers I've I've seen. Um we
have supported them through grants that

1078
01:36:29,679 --> 01:36:37,040
I've written through United Healthcare
to increase their days of operation.

1079
01:36:34,880 --> 01:36:41,040
Right. And if we get these rule
transformation dollars, what we're going

1080
01:36:38,800 --> 01:36:45,520
to be doing there is actually doing an
additional drop-in center that's going

1081
01:36:43,199 --> 01:36:51,040
to be a reintegration process for their
detention center. So there's going to be

1082
01:36:48,719 --> 01:36:57,119
different variations of dropin centers.
That's the only um county that has that

1083
01:36:54,480 --> 01:37:01,440
really wellestablished dropin center um
and they have a space for that, right?

1084
01:36:59,119 --> 01:37:04,639
So those dollars could be used in a
different way, but that operator might

1085
01:37:03,119 --> 01:37:11,360
already be identified because they have
a history of doing it um for many years,

1086
01:37:07,840 --> 01:37:15,840
right? So I think that um that's a
really good question. Um we will have

1087
01:37:13,760 --> 01:37:22,080
the dollars hopefully to support the
project and then probably each county

1088
01:37:18,320 --> 01:37:29,440
will determine the space that it'll be.
Um, I would recommend that we look at

1089
01:37:24,639 --> 01:37:32,960
spaces that welcome people that um are
having some challenges because drop in

1090
01:37:31,440 --> 01:37:37,520
centers are places where people don't
get turned away. You know, it's not a

1091
01:37:35,280 --> 01:37:42,239
place where you say no, you can't be
here right now, right? And if that's the

1092
01:37:40,480 --> 01:37:46,960
case, if it's escalated to that point,
then you're intervening with services

1093
01:37:44,719 --> 01:37:54,000
that are going to properly assist that
person. um in drop-in centers um in some

1094
01:37:51,920 --> 01:37:57,920
counties, you know, you have people that
come in and they're impaired and that's

1095
01:37:56,239 --> 01:38:05,119
something that the drop in center is
prepared to work with, not say you can't

1096
01:38:02,320 --> 01:38:11,360
get services. So, any place that you
pick for a drop-in center really should

1097
01:38:07,280 --> 01:38:19,119
be easy to access um so people can get
to it. It should be a place where um

1098
01:38:15,920 --> 01:38:27,360
that system is equipped to handle
something that is not um typical. And um

1099
01:38:24,719 --> 01:38:34,320
it should be a building that you'd want
to look at really having those big

1100
01:38:31,679 --> 01:38:38,080
different elements of it, right? Um you
you want to have showers, you want to

1101
01:38:36,320 --> 01:38:45,280
have places where people can get mail.
You want to have that kind of extended

1102
01:38:41,280 --> 01:38:48,960
option to grow out. Um because usually
drop in centers have like a one-year,

1103
01:38:47,040 --> 01:38:52,960
two-year, three-year plan and it starts
with a navigator and resources and then

1104
01:38:51,199 --> 01:38:56,960
they start building on you know we're
now have showers and we now have

1105
01:38:54,880 --> 01:39:01,840
different rooms for teleaalth and we now
have you know those types of things. And

1106
01:38:59,119 --> 01:39:06,159
you really don't want to ever bleed the
two into a behavioral health system

1107
01:39:04,480 --> 01:39:10,639
because they're very different and
they're built differently um and their

1108
01:39:08,480 --> 01:39:16,159
purpose is different.
>> Thank you so much. And then final uh

1109
01:39:13,040 --> 01:39:21,760
question. I think uh we've talked about
before that the intent with the mobile

1110
01:39:18,719 --> 01:39:28,320
crisis unit is that 971,000
would be to start it up and get it

1111
01:39:23,840 --> 01:39:33,440
going, but then uh we hope that um
insurance and Medicaid reimbursements

1112
01:39:31,199 --> 01:39:38,960
would help that be a self- sustaining
program, right?

1113
01:39:34,880 --> 01:39:46,000
» Yes. Um, and I would say that
your Bria funding, which is going to be

1114
01:39:43,440 --> 01:39:51,360
activated for the next three years, will
continue to perhaps support that year's

1115
01:39:48,880 --> 01:39:56,239
two, right? Because those dollars, that
$971,

1116
01:39:53,440 --> 01:39:59,840
you know, if if it's added to but it is
going to be added to CASA, which is

1117
01:39:57,760 --> 01:40:03,920
great because you're not having to work
on a building and all the things that

1118
01:40:01,760 --> 01:40:08,960
are attached to that, right? So, you get
to use those dollars really for um the

1119
01:40:07,360 --> 01:40:15,520
salaries of the individuals who are
going to work that. Um

1120
01:40:13,040 --> 01:40:18,480
over time, you know, I think every year
there's deliverables that are going to

1121
01:40:16,800 --> 01:40:24,000
be attached to those dollars that the
operator of this program is going to

1122
01:40:20,080 --> 01:40:28,960
have to be tracking. Okay? And I think
probably six months into it being live,

1123
01:40:27,440 --> 01:40:33,440
we'll have a really good understanding
of how many people are we servicing. You

1124
01:40:31,119 --> 01:40:38,880
know, what are the costs around that?
Um, and we can proactively prepare. Do

1125
01:40:36,239 --> 01:40:43,600
we need to lean into the Bria dollars to
support that second year, right? Can we

1126
01:40:41,119 --> 01:40:47,360
look at the opiate settlement dollars to
support those salaries because we want

1127
01:40:45,360 --> 01:40:52,480
that to be something that's sustainable
and we want it to be successful.

1128
01:40:49,840 --> 01:40:57,119
» Thank you.
Miss Mononttoya,

1129
01:40:55,040 --> 01:41:02,239
well, we have something happening at
Tucasa by December 31st.

1130
01:41:00,639 --> 01:41:08,320
» Good morning, Mr. Chairman. We are
actually in the final stages and possib

1131
01:41:05,119 --> 01:41:12,719
possible. I'm not saying 100%. Our RFP
could be released by next week possibly.

1132
01:41:10,800 --> 01:41:17,920
It's already written. It's in final
review.

1133
01:41:15,600 --> 01:41:23,440
» You're aiming for November.
So, we're we like using 99%. I thought I

1134
01:41:21,920 --> 01:41:28,480
heard that.
>> It's so close.

1135
01:41:25,440 --> 01:41:35,760
» Okay. Bye. All right. I I'd really like
to see that before I come off of here.

1136
01:41:32,400 --> 01:41:41,600
» The award date to be early November
right now.

1137
01:41:37,280 --> 01:41:46,080
» Thank you. Commissioners, any questions?
>> Just one more question.

1138
01:41:43,760 --> 01:41:53,280
The accredited adult residential
treatment center is that

1139
01:41:50,480 --> 01:41:58,080
for all of region six
>> certainly is.

1140
01:41:54,239 --> 01:42:01,679
» Is there is there a So that may not be
in Silver City. It might be somewhere

1141
01:42:00,800 --> 01:42:03,440
more central.
>> It's going to be in Lordsburg.

1142
01:42:03,119 --> 01:42:06,960
» Okay.
>> So they have an established building

1143
01:42:05,360 --> 01:42:12,159
that used to be a long-term care
facility. So it's built for that. Um we

1144
01:42:09,760 --> 01:42:16,480
have
probably about eight months ago we got

1145
01:42:14,159 --> 01:42:22,080
our life safety survey plans which is
necessary to submit to the state in

1146
01:42:18,800 --> 01:42:28,080
order to have that service completed and
so that building is is getting ready for

1147
01:42:25,840 --> 01:42:33,280
that service to actually happen there.
>> Okay. Thank you.

1148
01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:40,320
And that service will be open to not
just region six, but um Katherine County

1149
01:42:37,199 --> 01:42:46,320
would be another county. TRC might use
that as well because of the the

1150
01:42:42,639 --> 01:42:50,159
geographic and the and the region. So,
um it'll be to really anybody who's in

1151
01:42:48,800 --> 01:42:55,040
need of that service. That's the
inclusionary criteria for it. Um it

1152
01:42:52,880 --> 01:43:01,119
won't be broken down by the place where
you live.

1153
01:42:58,159 --> 01:43:01,119
Okay.

1154
01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:06,280
Thank you.
>> Thank you.

1155
01:43:10,560 --> 01:43:20,560
» Just moving on to our um elected
official reports. Wait, no. Yeah, we

1156
01:43:16,800 --> 01:43:24,679
are. Elected official reports. Madame
clerk, do you have a report?

1157
01:43:25,360 --> 01:43:32,000
» Good morning, chairman and
commissioners.

1158
01:43:28,159 --> 01:43:37,040
Um, in my off office, um, as you know,
we are currently working on our upcoming

1159
01:43:34,159 --> 01:43:42,480
general election.
Um, our general election does begin

1160
01:43:39,600 --> 01:43:49,440
early voting October 6th.
Um, at the Bear Community Center does

1161
01:43:44,800 --> 01:43:53,520
open October 17th.
Um, you can go online and view the

1162
01:43:51,679 --> 01:43:59,199
amendments and bonds that are provided
by the state.

1163
01:43:56,880 --> 01:44:03,760
Absentee ballots is a big question
currently

1164
01:44:00,880 --> 01:44:08,639
for our office. Absentee ballots are not
going to f are not going to change for

1165
01:44:05,760 --> 01:44:12,880
this election. Absentee ballots will be
mailed out October 6. The process has

1166
01:44:11,119 --> 01:44:18,480
not changed.
Um they will be mailed out from our

1167
01:44:15,600 --> 01:44:22,800
facility. They'll be mailed through the
regular post office. You're welcome to

1168
01:44:20,480 --> 01:44:26,960
bring them by the office. You're welcome
to drop them off here at the building.

1169
01:44:25,360 --> 01:44:34,719
You're welcome to drop them off in our
parking lot u ballot box. Um you're

1170
01:44:30,400 --> 01:44:41,199
welcome to place them in the mail. Um
there's no guarantee they'll come

1171
01:44:37,440 --> 01:44:44,560
quicker, faster by the post office. If
you have any questions regarding your

1172
01:44:42,719 --> 01:44:47,840
absentee ballots, please contact our
office.

1173
01:44:46,320 --> 01:44:53,760
Um
requests for absentee ballots are can be

1174
01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:59,920
done through the New Mexico or
nmvote.org og.

1175
01:44:56,800 --> 01:45:05,520
Um remember when they do get mailed out
out of the facility on October 6th, give

1176
01:45:02,480 --> 01:45:10,639
them at least 7 to 10 days
um to arrive at your homes. Um if you

1177
01:45:08,639 --> 01:45:14,719
have any other further questions for our
office, please feel free to contact our

1178
01:45:12,639 --> 01:45:19,040
office.
Um, and as I mentioned, once we receive

1179
01:45:17,280 --> 01:45:21,920
our amendments and bond, the booklets
that are provided through the state,

1180
01:45:20,320 --> 01:45:29,920
you're welcome to stop by our office and
pick up copies of those. Um, and if you

1181
01:45:25,040 --> 01:45:34,159
have any other questions, I'm here.
>> Thank you.

1182
01:45:30,880 --> 01:45:40,080
» Do we have any questions, Commissioner?
>> Thank you, Madam Clerk. Madame assessor,

1183
01:45:38,159 --> 01:45:43,480
» chairman, commissioners, I do not have a
report at this.

1184
01:45:44,960 --> 01:45:49,280
Y you'll when we get there you'll talk
when we get to the rates then I will

1185
01:45:48,639 --> 01:45:54,080
Yes.
>> All right. Sounds good. Uh treasure Mr.

1186
01:45:53,119 --> 01:45:59,199
Khan.
>> Good morning Mr. Chairman Fua

1187
01:45:56,400 --> 01:46:03,280
Commissioners County Manager Web. Um
attached is the report title tax

1188
01:46:01,360 --> 01:46:08,600
maintenance report for the total amount
of taxes collected for the month of

1189
01:46:04,960 --> 01:46:08,600
August was $81,8967.

1190
01:46:10,000 --> 01:46:15,639
So far for the 2025 tax rule,
16,519,1549

1191
01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:23,199
have been collected, which left the
county at a collection percentage of

1192
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:31,480
91.97%
for the 2025 tax rule. For the total

1193
01:46:26,960 --> 01:46:31,480
2025 tax rule, 1,442,793

1194
01:46:33,440 --> 01:46:41,280
remains uncollected. The total
percentage collected for the total 10ear

1195
01:46:37,679 --> 01:46:45,600
collection as of August 31st, 2026 is
95.76%

1196
01:46:43,199 --> 01:46:49,960
of which a total
of 127,326,85120

1197
01:46:52,239 --> 01:47:00,600
of taxes have been collected. That
leaves a total uncollected balance of

1198
01:46:56,800 --> 01:47:00,600
taxes of 5,631,91.14.

1199
01:47:04,560 --> 01:47:12,480
status of the treasur's office. Um, the
property tax division held its annual

1200
01:47:09,679 --> 01:47:17,119
auction on August the 26th here in the
commission meeting room. I'm happy to

1201
01:47:14,639 --> 01:47:22,159
report that out of 22 properties on the
auction list, only 10 cases were

1202
01:47:19,440 --> 01:47:28,360
auctioned. The county will be receiving
funds from the auction in the amount of

1203
01:47:25,360 --> 01:47:28,360
$14,962.

1204
01:47:30,239 --> 01:47:37,760
Um, Mr. Mr. Chair, I just want to make
it clear and commissioners that

1205
01:47:36,320 --> 01:47:43,360
I'm going to reference Commissioner
Flores's reference of keyboard warriors.

1206
01:47:40,880 --> 01:47:50,800
I do not take these properties for
myself, nor do I give them to you or

1207
01:47:46,400 --> 01:47:55,920
Silver Schools or Cobrey Schools. Um I
I'm not even allowed to make a bid, nor

1208
01:47:53,199 --> 01:47:58,639
other elected officials. Um if that
would have been the case, I would have

1209
01:47:57,040 --> 01:48:05,040
saved my aunt's home that was on the
auction list. But like many

1210
01:48:02,159 --> 01:48:09,600
that were on that list, either of our
residents that are deceased and family

1211
01:48:06,960 --> 01:48:13,679
members either forget about it or they
don't change their address. So, it's

1212
01:48:11,600 --> 01:48:18,639
impossible for us to even track to see
who that property belongs to when

1213
01:48:15,520 --> 01:48:24,560
unfortunately it's auctioned. Um, I do
work my best with county residents

1214
01:48:22,000 --> 01:48:29,520
on getting payments, preferably under
the three-year mark to help them so I

1215
01:48:26,560 --> 01:48:35,600
don't get sent to property tax division.
But in those cases when I do have to

1216
01:48:32,480 --> 01:48:41,040
submit that to property tax division um
when they're three or more years older,

1217
01:48:38,400 --> 01:48:46,480
you know, I still work with residents.
Um, I'm here to help. I'm here to listen

1218
01:48:44,400 --> 01:48:49,840
and any which way I can for our county
residents. I don't want them to lose

1219
01:48:48,080 --> 01:48:54,239
their home, nor I want to take it. I
don't even take that. So, you know, I

1220
01:48:52,239 --> 01:48:58,080
encourage all county residents, if
you're

1221
01:48:55,920 --> 01:49:05,360
in a tough situation, please come and
talk to me. Please give me a call, email

1222
01:49:01,119 --> 01:49:09,280
me. I'm here for you. Um,
at our last treasures affiliate

1223
01:49:07,199 --> 01:49:13,520
conference in Farmington, you know, as
treasures,

1224
01:49:10,880 --> 01:49:18,159
we were talking to see what outsources
that

1225
01:49:15,040 --> 01:49:25,280
of of of communities that could help for
the less needy and we're trying to

1226
01:49:21,360 --> 01:49:31,520
figure that out. Um, but again, I just
for record, I do not take these

1227
01:49:27,760 --> 01:49:37,119
properties for myself. Um,
I do want to thank assessor Miss

1228
01:49:33,520 --> 01:49:42,800
Trujillo and Chief Deputy Raul Tureta
for allowing me to assist them with the

1229
01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:48,080
tax rates provided to DFA. This was
truly a teamwork effort.

1230
01:49:45,600 --> 01:49:53,679
Um,
this got me thinking, you know, if a new

1231
01:49:50,080 --> 01:49:56,719
if we were a new assessor treasur team,
this would have never been caught

1232
01:49:55,119 --> 01:50:03,520
because there were errors in the rates
because of DFA's new rule. Um, and it

1233
01:50:02,080 --> 01:50:10,239
would not have been fair to our
taxpayers. So, I'm I'm glad that we have

1234
01:50:07,679 --> 01:50:14,159
a lots of experience on this and we're
able to

1235
01:50:12,239 --> 01:50:19,600
um feel comfortable with these rates
that you will approve later on here at

1236
01:50:16,800 --> 01:50:24,719
this meeting. Um I'm currently in the
process with preparing for bringing in

1237
01:50:21,600 --> 01:50:28,480
the 2026 tax role and making sure that
Grant County is ready to receive their

1238
01:50:26,400 --> 01:50:33,040
property taxes.
Um, I do want to thank my staff for

1239
01:50:30,239 --> 01:50:36,719
their continuous hard work and I also
want to thank, you know, our IT team

1240
01:50:34,800 --> 01:50:42,639
here at the county. They do a phenomenal
job. Um, we recently had some issues or

1241
01:50:39,920 --> 01:50:48,960
having issues with our our goss pay
system. Um, Adam and his team are are on

1242
01:50:46,719 --> 01:50:53,760
it and and help us. So, there's not a
strain when we're collecting or taking

1243
01:50:51,679 --> 01:51:00,600
any type of revenue that sustains that.
So, thank you, Director Baka, for that.

1244
01:50:56,159 --> 01:51:00,600
Um, and I stand for any questions.

1245
01:51:03,920 --> 01:51:10,960
» Thank you. Don't worry about the the
keyboard, guys.

1246
01:51:09,119 --> 01:51:15,119
Just move on. Do your best and that's
all that matters. Sheriff, go ahead.

1247
01:51:13,679 --> 01:51:18,800
» Thank you, Mr. Chairman. Commissioners,
I really don't have a report today. I

1248
01:51:16,639 --> 01:51:23,520
just want to let the public know that
we've been busy kind pretty busy at the

1249
01:51:21,520 --> 01:51:27,520
sheriff's office dealing with a lot of
things going on in our our community

1250
01:51:24,880 --> 01:51:32,080
that I continue to report weekly on our
Facebook page and and send to the

1251
01:51:29,520 --> 01:51:36,239
newspapers to put out. But uh I just
want to thank my staff for everything

1252
01:51:34,320 --> 01:51:41,599
that they continue to do for this
community. They work tire tirelessly and

1253
01:51:39,119 --> 01:51:45,679
and hard for our community to keep keep
it safe and ensure that they're getting

1254
01:51:43,520 --> 01:51:49,360
good service out there. Um, so I just
want to thank them for what they do day

1255
01:51:47,679 --> 01:51:53,760
in and day out. Other than that, I don't
have anything else unless you have any

1256
01:51:51,040 --> 01:51:56,760
questions,
>> commissioners.

1257
01:51:58,159 --> 01:52:06,320
» Thank you. Uh, sure.
Moving on to the consent agenda.

1258
01:52:03,840 --> 01:52:10,000
» Move to approve.
>> So, I have a motion by Commissioner

1259
01:52:07,760 --> 01:52:14,400
Stevens to approve. I have a second by
Commissioner Medina. Do we have any

1260
01:52:12,400 --> 01:52:22,599
discussion?
You know what? Um, out of our finance, I

1261
01:52:17,280 --> 01:52:22,599
was looking at at um

1262
01:52:23,119 --> 01:52:31,760
our expenditure report. Could you do me
a favor? Doesn't have to be exact, but

1263
01:52:28,159 --> 01:52:37,599
give me the uh what were our expenses
for uh last month? I' I've seen the

1264
01:52:35,679 --> 01:52:43,199
expenses this month in our of our
detention center. And if I could have

1265
01:52:40,080 --> 01:52:48,159
that by the 24th because
I mean we we pay a lot so I just want to

1266
01:52:45,920 --> 01:52:54,080
look at them but I appreciate you for
doing that. Any further discussion?

1267
01:52:50,639 --> 01:52:56,639
» Are you expenditures for salary benefits
and all operating expenses or just

1268
01:52:56,159 --> 01:53:00,639
operating?
>> You know I'll give you an example right

1269
01:52:58,159 --> 01:53:04,080
here. It's just simple for you guys and
I could probably do it. I'm just not the

1270
01:53:02,480 --> 01:53:06,639
computer guy to go back to find all
these but

1271
01:53:04,639 --> 01:53:14,480
» or the housing of prisoners,
>> you know. Uh where was I looking? um

1272
01:53:11,840 --> 01:53:24,960
housing of juvenile prisoners.
you know, $30,000 we paid uh for this

1273
01:53:19,679 --> 01:53:31,280
month here for the 83 to9 to you know
July inmate meals 31,504

1274
01:53:29,360 --> 01:53:35,520
and maybe we don't need it because my
comment to this is I understand what

1275
01:53:33,119 --> 01:53:41,280
everybody's struggling with as far as
you know landfield rates and and how

1276
01:53:38,719 --> 01:53:46,560
much it cost them but if you really look
at the total picture of what we have to

1277
01:53:43,920 --> 01:53:51,119
A and some of this
municipalities don't help us with with

1278
01:53:48,960 --> 01:53:57,520
with our detention center.
Municipalities found a loophole where

1279
01:53:53,440 --> 01:54:02,400
they charge state charges. So basically
we cannot get any help from our

1280
01:54:00,080 --> 01:54:07,360
municipalities to offset some of these
costs. If they say they charge their

1281
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:13,040
their whoever they charge is they do it
under state statute. Um, so they get

1282
01:54:11,119 --> 01:54:18,960
away from helping us run the detention
center. So if you look at what we spend

1283
01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:23,119
here, the county spends a lot of money
on on detention and I think our budget

1284
01:54:21,280 --> 01:54:27,280
is probably what, like 4.4 million
somewhere in there just on our detention

1285
01:54:25,199 --> 01:54:32,639
center. I just want people to understand
that yes, you know, we we're having

1286
01:54:29,920 --> 01:54:38,480
problems with with our sanitation. we
have to bring, you know,

1287
01:54:35,360 --> 01:54:44,880
increase our rates, but there's a lot of
things that you see on here. It cost a

1288
01:54:41,920 --> 01:54:50,320
lot of money and and we can't help cover
everything. We need help. And uh so that

1289
01:54:48,239 --> 01:54:56,960
was it. But I I think just with these
two examples uh you know Bernalo

1290
01:54:53,360 --> 01:55:02,320
detention center housing of of juveniles
30 60 out of Donana you know we look at

1291
01:55:00,480 --> 01:55:05,840
the food we look at everything that we
do we look at the maintenance there's

1292
01:55:03,920 --> 01:55:11,360
another one Bernalo County juvenile
detention 11,000

1293
01:55:08,320 --> 01:55:16,320
um you know there's a lot that that goes
in here but not only that maintenance of

1294
01:55:13,520 --> 01:55:20,960
the jail our our doors our cameras our
our IT system all that. So, it's not

1295
01:55:19,440 --> 01:55:25,920
like we're just coming up here and
saying, "Hey, we're going to increase

1296
01:55:23,360 --> 01:55:32,800
your your your uh landfill rates for
just to do it." There's a lot that this

1297
01:55:28,880 --> 01:55:39,199
county uh pays on and and just wanted
that as an example also. But anyway,

1298
01:55:37,360 --> 01:55:43,440
anything else, commissioners? You don't
need to do it. Thanks. I think I I I

1299
01:55:40,800 --> 01:55:46,960
proved my point here. Um anything else,
commissioners?

1300
01:55:45,040 --> 01:55:54,119
» All those in favor? I
>> I motion carries. Moving on to a new

1301
01:55:49,679 --> 01:55:54,119
business, RFP26-02,

1302
01:55:54,639 --> 01:56:04,000
Conference Center Property Management
Service. I'd like to make a motion to uh

1303
01:56:00,960 --> 01:56:12,560
not accept the contract offer that was
given by uh Chamber of Commerce. And I'd

1304
01:56:08,480 --> 01:56:19,119
like to in that motion look that our
that be brought into the county

1305
01:56:15,840 --> 01:56:23,119
uh through through our our uh county uh
that Grant County start taking it over

1306
01:56:21,119 --> 01:56:27,679
and looking at at running the the
center. And also just on a side note

1307
01:56:25,440 --> 01:56:32,719
here on this is that we look at every
legal possible way to bring in some of

1308
01:56:29,840 --> 01:56:37,440
their employees into our county to help
us do this and transition.

1309
01:56:35,440 --> 01:56:43,400
» Do I have a second? Second.
>> So I have a second by Commissioner

1310
01:56:38,800 --> 01:56:43,400
Medina. Do we have any discussion?

1311
01:56:44,800 --> 01:56:55,520
» No. My only discussion is u I just want
to thank the Chamber of Commerce for the

1312
01:56:52,239 --> 01:57:02,239
years of operating it. I from my
perspective they've done a great job and

1313
01:56:59,119 --> 01:57:07,360
hopefully we can continue that level of
service.

1314
01:57:03,679 --> 01:57:09,760
» Thank you. Any further discussion?
Seeing none, all those in favor?

1315
01:57:09,119 --> 01:57:16,800
» I
>> I motion carries. Moving on to

1316
01:57:14,480 --> 01:57:21,679
item J. Before we go into motion on
this, I want our uh madam assess

1317
01:57:19,840 --> 01:57:26,960
assessor to explain some of this. But
item J, order imposing the 2026 tax

1318
01:57:24,560 --> 01:57:31,440
rate.
>> Good morning, Mr. Chair and

1319
01:57:28,560 --> 01:57:35,199
commissioners. Grant Grant County has
received the 2026 certificate of tax

1320
01:57:33,599 --> 01:57:40,159
rates from the New Mexico Department of
Finance and Administration. Chief Deputy

1321
01:57:37,840 --> 01:57:44,960
Assessor, County Treasurer, and I have
reviewed the rates and they appear to be

1322
01:57:42,159 --> 01:57:49,280
in order. I do want to thank both of
them for all of their help, the phone

1323
01:57:46,960 --> 01:57:54,639
calls that they helped me with, and I
also want to thank um county manager

1324
01:57:51,440 --> 01:57:57,760
Charlene Webb for her understanding the
situation.

1325
01:57:56,159 --> 01:58:05,119
This morning, I did email all
commissioners with a comparison for the

1326
01:57:59,920 --> 01:58:10,760
2025 2026 year. Respectfully, we request
approval for the 2026 Grant County tax

1327
01:58:07,760 --> 01:58:10,760
rates.

1328
01:58:11,520 --> 01:58:15,679
» That's it.
>> Thank you, Commissioner. Do you have

1329
01:58:13,679 --> 01:58:18,480
anything on this?
>> Okay. Can I have a motion?

1330
01:58:17,119 --> 01:58:21,840
» Motion to approve.
>> Second.

1331
01:58:19,280 --> 01:58:27,119
» I have a motion by Commissioner Medina.
U second by Commissioner Shalley. Do we

1332
01:58:24,159 --> 01:58:33,360
have any discussion?
Seeing none. All those in favor? I

1333
01:58:29,440 --> 01:58:37,840
» I moving on to item K, county manager
succession planning process. And I'm

1334
01:58:35,599 --> 01:58:43,119
going to turn this over to Commissioner
Flores. Thank you, Mr. Chair.

1335
01:58:41,119 --> 01:58:48,800
when um
when we obviously um got the bad news

1336
01:58:47,119 --> 01:58:55,599
that that our county manager was going
to retire, we we came to a conclusion

1337
01:58:51,520 --> 01:59:00,480
that we were going to um
go ahead and try to pick the county

1338
01:58:56,880 --> 01:59:06,480
manager as a commission and I took it
upon myself just to um start obviously

1339
01:59:04,560 --> 01:59:10,880
with the with the with the job
description and I asked uh the county

1340
01:59:08,960 --> 01:59:17,040
manager for our job description. as it
was as it is. And with the help of the

1341
01:59:14,080 --> 01:59:22,000
chair, I got some other county manager
positions throughout the state, some

1342
01:59:19,599 --> 01:59:29,360
counties that were the same size as
ours, some smaller, some bigger, and I

1343
01:59:25,440 --> 01:59:35,840
got I worked together I worked and put
together um a rough draft of a new job

1344
01:59:33,199 --> 01:59:40,080
description. I I did mainly take I'm
using my phone for the old job

1345
01:59:37,360 --> 01:59:43,840
description, but I did take a lot of
from the old description and put into

1346
01:59:42,000 --> 01:59:50,159
the new description. And every one of
you has a a hard copy that I handed out

1347
01:59:46,639 --> 01:59:56,960
to you. But here in in the public
meeting, I'm going to ask that everybody

1348
01:59:52,800 --> 02:00:00,960
can change it. It's obviously a a living
document. We can change it, make it any

1349
01:59:58,639 --> 02:00:08,480
way that we think is best. The main
thing that I changed

1350
02:00:04,800 --> 02:00:13,360
that I wanted that I thought was um
essential was the minimum qualifications

1351
02:00:11,040 --> 02:00:18,000
and the preferred qualifications.
Um,

1352
02:00:15,520 --> 02:00:25,360
our current job description shows five
years of government experience or 10

1353
02:00:20,639 --> 02:00:29,679
years upper level. And what I changed um
was

1354
02:00:28,239 --> 02:00:35,199
a master's degree in public
administration, business administration,

1355
02:00:31,280 --> 02:00:37,679
public policy, or uh a minimum five
years progressively responsible

1356
02:00:36,480 --> 02:00:42,639
executive or senior management
experience or a minimum of 10 years of

1357
02:00:40,719 --> 02:00:47,440
progressively progressively responsible
executive leadership or upper level

1358
02:00:45,280 --> 02:00:52,800
management experience.
that would that would take that being in

1359
02:00:50,400 --> 02:00:56,000
lie of the the the degree because I do
understand there are folks out there

1360
02:00:54,080 --> 02:01:01,920
that may not have that master's degree
but they have the experience and the

1361
02:00:58,320 --> 02:01:08,320
knowledge to to carry out this job. I al
I also added um just extra items under

1362
02:01:06,400 --> 02:01:13,760
preferred qualifications
and I just I didn't reinvent the wheel.

1363
02:01:10,800 --> 02:01:18,400
I just uh picked from different of the
of the other uh job descriptions and I

1364
02:01:15,920 --> 02:01:25,599
thought I added them what I thought
would best fit our description as a

1365
02:01:21,119 --> 02:01:29,440
county manager here in Grant County. And
that's where we're at with what I handed

1366
02:01:27,520 --> 02:01:33,520
out to you. Obviously, like I said,
everyone's going to give their input on

1367
02:01:30,960 --> 02:01:37,360
what changes they want and hopefully we
start off with the job description and

1368
02:01:35,040 --> 02:01:42,080
then move forward from there and put it
out for advertisement and uh go forward.

1369
02:01:40,560 --> 02:01:46,719
And with that, I'll turn it back over to
you, Mr. Chair.

1370
02:01:43,599 --> 02:01:54,280
» You guys, uh, you know what? Can I have
our HR come up here, sit bent so she can

1371
02:02:03,440 --> 02:02:10,560
So, what what do you guys
input?

1372
02:02:08,080 --> 02:02:14,639
» So, um first I want to thank
Commissioner Flus. Good job. Um I was

1373
02:02:13,119 --> 02:02:18,400
able to read the document. I know that I
I redlined a couple things and I sent

1374
02:02:16,239 --> 02:02:22,560
them back to you. Um I think it's a good
document to start with. It's a starting

1375
02:02:20,080 --> 02:02:26,080
point and I think it's really I mean
wherever you pulled your resource from I

1376
02:02:24,000 --> 02:02:29,280
think is really well um this gives us
the opportunity to look at look at every

1377
02:02:27,440 --> 02:02:32,760
avenue possible and I just want to thank
you all.

1378
02:02:37,360 --> 02:02:46,000
» Uh thank you. I also appreciate
Commissioner Flores putting time into uh

1379
02:02:42,239 --> 02:02:54,719
working on this. And I guess my
um question is can we approve the job

1380
02:02:50,320 --> 02:02:57,679
description today and post it? Um
>> can we

1381
02:02:55,599 --> 02:03:00,960
» are we ready to do that?
>> Well, yeah, it's an item. So, yeah, we

1382
02:02:59,360 --> 02:03:02,400
continue.
>> Yeah.

1383
02:03:01,679 --> 02:03:07,199
» Yeah.
>> Um yeah, I I read through it. I mean,

1384
02:03:05,040 --> 02:03:12,239
there's some things that I'm not sure
about, like the difference between five

1385
02:03:09,599 --> 02:03:16,639
years experience, you know, in a
progressively

1386
02:03:13,760 --> 02:03:26,400
uh taking on more leadership versus
seven versus 10. I don't know um

1387
02:03:21,920 --> 02:03:31,280
you know, how important it is uh I think
right now it says 10 years, right? Um

1388
02:03:29,440 --> 02:03:35,599
that's what we want.
>> It's just a a suggestion,

1389
02:03:32,960 --> 02:03:42,159
» right? Um
there might be a a case to be made for

1390
02:03:38,639 --> 02:03:47,280
making it lower and then we could always
like evaluate candidates um and if they

1391
02:03:45,040 --> 02:03:52,719
have more then great but that way we
don't rule out people. Um but that was

1392
02:03:50,239 --> 02:03:59,520
really my only comment. I I agree with
the the content and am ready to approve

1393
02:03:57,599 --> 02:04:04,080
» and absolutely Mr. Chair if I may. Yes.
This is just a starting point. So,

1394
02:04:01,440 --> 02:04:07,840
please feel free to change whatever you
need to. And um Commissioner Medina, I

1395
02:04:06,639 --> 02:04:11,520
apologize. I hope you remember where
your changes are, but I brought the

1396
02:04:09,280 --> 02:04:13,440
wrong envelope this morning with your
red line changes. I know there wasn't

1397
02:04:13,119 --> 02:04:17,400
many.
>> It wasn't many.

1398
02:04:14,400 --> 02:04:17,400
» Yeah.

1399
02:04:18,960 --> 02:04:27,840
» Yeah. I really like the job description
that you presented

1400
02:04:25,040 --> 02:04:32,400
that you compiled.
My only question is on the minimum

1401
02:04:29,599 --> 02:04:37,280
qualifications because that constrains
us potentially

1402
02:04:34,080 --> 02:04:46,159
» on who we can consider.
>> And so my main question for my fellow

1403
02:04:42,080 --> 02:04:51,520
commissioners is do we want to say a
master's degree is a minimum

1404
02:04:49,840 --> 02:04:56,639
qualification?
Is it okay to

1405
02:04:54,080 --> 02:05:01,119
um I suppose
um

1406
02:04:58,639 --> 02:05:06,639
in like the example we got from uh
Valencia County and thank you for

1407
02:05:03,119 --> 02:05:11,520
getting that also for us to look at.
They had um

1408
02:05:09,360 --> 02:05:17,760
master's degree as a preferred
qualification

1409
02:05:13,760 --> 02:05:26,320
and but a bachelor's is like a minimum.
What do you think? Can could we

1410
02:05:22,639 --> 02:05:34,480
model it more on that so that we're not
exclude or

1411
02:05:29,360 --> 02:05:41,360
I know and maybe your or is good because
in that one you could have a bachelor's

1412
02:05:36,960 --> 02:05:49,040
degree so maybe it's covered there um
under that category.

1413
02:05:44,480 --> 02:05:55,520
I I mean to me the the biggest thing is
I remember um when we did the job

1414
02:05:52,800 --> 02:06:01,360
description in in the past when Charlene
left us for a little vacation

1415
02:05:57,840 --> 02:06:05,360
uh they they had put anybody could
really apply for it. They you didn't

1416
02:06:03,119 --> 02:06:13,840
even have to have a degree and and I
didn't like that piece. I mean to me

1417
02:06:09,040 --> 02:06:17,520
I like the idea of bachelor's degree in
in in a certain in certain areas of

1418
02:06:15,840 --> 02:06:23,199
course you know management you know
business administration business

1419
02:06:19,040 --> 02:06:28,400
management financial thing and then
putting in their preferred masters maybe

1420
02:06:26,239 --> 02:06:32,400
you know in case you know they they do
have a master or or preferred masters

1421
02:06:30,639 --> 02:06:37,920
but
um

1422
02:06:33,920 --> 02:06:43,760
bachelors for sure Um,
that's what I like. I mean, I don't want

1423
02:06:40,800 --> 02:06:49,760
to go ahead and and exclude a lot of
people that may have that experience by

1424
02:06:45,840 --> 02:06:56,400
requiring a a mast's. Um, but I think
too we have to be careful with how many

1425
02:06:54,239 --> 02:07:01,040
you have to look at certain things. How
many people are out there that have

1426
02:06:58,239 --> 02:07:05,840
manager experience
that are willing to even come back or

1427
02:07:03,360 --> 02:07:10,159
apply that that are retired that say,
"Hey, we're done. We're we're not coming

1428
02:07:07,760 --> 02:07:13,920
back." You know, and I don't want to use
Charlene as it, but I guess I am. You

1429
02:07:12,320 --> 02:07:18,000
know, if she's retiring and she says,
"I'm done with this." I don't see her

1430
02:07:16,000 --> 02:07:21,360
trying to apply somewhere else because
she's like, "I'm done."

1431
02:07:19,760 --> 02:07:27,119
So, we I think we have to be careful
with some of that as to who what we

1432
02:07:23,360 --> 02:07:31,119
leave open for uh to apply.
>> You know, I I I want to chime in a

1433
02:07:30,079 --> 02:07:35,360
little bit of the comments that you
made. Um as well as Commissioner Fish,

1434
02:07:33,360 --> 02:07:39,520
your minimum qualifications I think were
were very accurate. Um the reason I

1435
02:07:37,920 --> 02:07:43,679
support the education component is
because of the discipline it takes. Um

1436
02:07:41,840 --> 02:07:48,000
it's a discipline component to pursue a
bachelor's, pursue a masters, or even a

1437
02:07:45,280 --> 02:07:51,040
doctor. Um, and I mean that shows the
that shows the commitment of the

1438
02:07:49,360 --> 02:07:55,440
individual to say, "Yeah, I'm here. I'm
educated." Um, and and I want you to

1439
02:07:53,920 --> 02:08:01,280
understand that I don't dismiss
experience. I do not dismiss experience

1440
02:07:57,440 --> 02:08:04,239
at all. But I think that that education
component has to be a priority and has

1441
02:08:03,119 --> 02:08:07,239
to stay in there as a minimal
qualifications.

1442
02:08:10,639 --> 02:08:18,960
Uh so uh hearing what you all have said,
it seems like it would make sense to

1443
02:08:16,320 --> 02:08:25,360
under minimum qualifications
um leave it with master's degree but get

1444
02:08:22,639 --> 02:08:29,599
rid of is preferred because we're saying
it's a minimum qualification. So we

1445
02:08:27,599 --> 02:08:34,880
should maybe take out that it's
preferred. um that would be a master's

1446
02:08:32,400 --> 02:08:40,960
degree with five years of progressively
responsible management experience or a

1447
02:08:38,400 --> 02:08:46,159
bachelor's degree with a minimum of 10
years of progressively responsible

1448
02:08:44,239 --> 02:08:49,520
leadership. Right? So if you have your
bachelors but you have 10 years where

1449
02:08:48,320 --> 02:08:56,360
you've taken on more and more
responsibility then um that would also

1450
02:08:52,960 --> 02:08:56,360
be acceptable.

1451
02:08:59,360 --> 02:09:10,159
It's a little rough for tough there. Um
for for that. I mean

1452
02:09:08,079 --> 02:09:15,360
legally.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean I I see what you're

1453
02:09:13,679 --> 02:09:21,360
saying. I mean I I would love to see the
the master's degree

1454
02:09:18,320 --> 02:09:27,040
preferred bachelor's for sure.
Uh

1455
02:09:23,520 --> 02:09:31,440
five, six years, seven years experience
be good for me. But whatever you guys

1456
02:09:29,040 --> 02:09:38,400
think I I don't know what
>> the other I just don't want to

1457
02:09:35,599 --> 02:09:44,079
leave some people out out here that we
have and and and I I don't know.

1458
02:09:42,320 --> 02:09:46,159
» Yeah. I just don't I don't know what
what's out there. That's the biggest

1459
02:09:45,599 --> 02:09:50,239
problem with
>> well the more conservative approach

1460
02:09:47,679 --> 02:09:56,960
would be to say minimum qualification of
qualifications of a bachelor's dis

1461
02:09:52,800 --> 02:10:01,440
degree uh plus the five years and then
just get rid of the or

1462
02:09:59,679 --> 02:10:06,480
the 10 years because we're not really
saying or because we want them to have

1463
02:10:03,280 --> 02:10:08,000
the bachelor's degree as a minimum.
I

1464
02:10:06,800 --> 02:10:14,400
» whatever you guys want.
>> I I like what what everybody's saying,

1465
02:10:11,199 --> 02:10:17,520
but at the same time, I I I get what
you're saying, Mr. Ch. I don't want to

1466
02:10:15,840 --> 02:10:22,400
exclude
somebody that may have 15 years. I'm

1467
02:10:20,800 --> 02:10:25,840
just throwing that number out. 15 years
experience

1468
02:10:24,000 --> 02:10:30,480
without a degree. They have some
college, but they've done a great job.

1469
02:10:28,880 --> 02:10:36,800
because I think at some point in time
we're going to have a a a

1470
02:10:34,480 --> 02:10:41,040
rubric, a guide to follow where we can
still accept the application, but if

1471
02:10:39,520 --> 02:10:45,280
somebody
meets our our our prefer our minimum

1472
02:10:42,880 --> 02:10:48,880
qualifications, then at that point we
can rule them out, but they still have

1473
02:10:47,280 --> 02:10:52,880
the opportunity to apply if that makes
sense. So, I do agree with I think what

1474
02:10:50,960 --> 02:10:59,119
you're trying to say, Mr. Chair, is that
we still leave the the experience

1475
02:10:55,280 --> 02:11:05,760
without a degree. Um but and and then to
miss uh Kashim and I do appreciate the

1476
02:11:02,800 --> 02:11:12,000
the discipline part of getting a degree.
It's not easy. Um

1477
02:11:09,840 --> 02:11:19,199
but again, yeah, I'm okay with dropping
the the number of years experience. Um

1478
02:11:16,719 --> 02:11:23,599
but yeah, I I just put that because we
don't know who we're going to get. Um,

1479
02:11:21,840 --> 02:11:28,560
but I don't want to eliminate that one
person that may not have a degree for

1480
02:11:26,320 --> 02:11:32,400
whatever reason. Maybe they're uh going
to school full-time, having a family,

1481
02:11:30,800 --> 02:11:36,719
they got caught up in their current job
or the job and they couldn't finish, but

1482
02:11:34,639 --> 02:11:43,679
they have a they have great experience
and great uh leadership qualifications.

1483
02:11:40,639 --> 02:11:51,119
What what I was suggesting is if we
modeled it after Valencia County, then

1484
02:11:46,719 --> 02:11:56,639
we would say minimum qualifications
bachelor's degree parentheses master's

1485
02:11:54,400 --> 02:12:04,159
degree preferred
in in these areas.

1486
02:12:01,520 --> 02:12:10,159
And that would be the only change I was
thinking about.

1487
02:12:07,199 --> 02:12:14,639
I I think if you do a a master's degree,
the way the way it's written, it is a

1488
02:12:13,199 --> 02:12:18,719
golden opportunity. But the other thing
I think if you're going to put that

1489
02:12:15,760 --> 02:12:22,639
bachelor's degree allowance, I think you
need to put a bachelor's degree with.

1490
02:12:20,639 --> 02:12:26,719
And when I say with, it has to be a
minimum of so many years experience

1491
02:12:24,960 --> 02:12:32,320
because you're right, some people do get
tied into the family life and school

1492
02:12:29,440 --> 02:12:35,599
goes sideways. Well, that that would fit
in then the way Commissioner Stevens

1493
02:12:34,960 --> 02:12:40,400
proposed,
>> but like I tell you, you know, masters

1494
02:12:37,840 --> 02:12:44,560
bachelors masters preferred bachelors
with eight years experience, nine years

1495
02:12:42,960 --> 02:12:48,719
experience. And and kind of imagine Web,
I'm not exposing your your age or

1496
02:12:46,239 --> 02:12:53,679
anything, but years ago, a bachelor's
was the the deal. Today, in in to

1497
02:12:52,159 --> 02:12:57,599
today's setting, people that want these
executive positions, they've got those

1498
02:12:55,520 --> 02:13:02,400
master's degrees. They understand it.
And it's just I think master degree has

1499
02:12:59,679 --> 02:13:06,960
to be preferred bachelors with five
years, eight years, 10 years experience.

1500
02:13:04,480 --> 02:13:11,119
I mean it gives an opportunity to review
every bachelor's degree that's there.

1501
02:13:09,040 --> 02:13:12,239
» Well, master a bachelor's used to be
your masters.

1502
02:13:11,920 --> 02:13:15,679
» Yeah.
>> Now your masters is your bachelor's

1503
02:13:13,920 --> 02:13:20,000
really the way things go. So
>> that's why that's why I think the

1504
02:13:17,199 --> 02:13:23,199
bachelor's with experience is an option.
Um

1505
02:13:21,760 --> 02:13:27,360
» I I just I don't want to chop up what
you did commercial. It's It's a lot of

1506
02:13:25,520 --> 02:13:29,840
work, but I I if we're going to make
some changes, I think I'd like to see

1507
02:13:28,800 --> 02:13:34,480
just a little bit more.
>> I'm and I'm good with what you're

1508
02:13:31,920 --> 02:13:39,440
proposing, then you just if we don't
want to have it with if we don't want to

1509
02:13:36,719 --> 02:13:44,719
exclude people without a degree, you
leave the or in there,

1510
02:13:41,360 --> 02:13:48,800
» but in up above, you're suggesting if we
put bachelors,

1511
02:13:47,199 --> 02:13:55,119
then
we also include eight years experience

1512
02:13:52,320 --> 02:13:59,920
» or five, whatever. But I like that or
component too. So it doesn't catch that

1513
02:13:57,119 --> 02:14:05,760
potentials that didn't get the degree.
>> Well, and I like I like the masters with

1514
02:14:02,400 --> 02:14:12,400
five years experience. That way we know
it's they we I think we really need

1515
02:14:10,000 --> 02:14:17,360
experience in this position
>> even if they have a master's.

1516
02:14:15,440 --> 02:14:22,719
» I I don't and I don't know where where
we get but here but I think they need to

1517
02:14:20,400 --> 02:14:25,760
have a degree to be a county manager. I
really do.

1518
02:14:25,280 --> 02:14:32,000
Okay.
>> So, so how about if we put uh minimum

1519
02:14:28,960 --> 02:14:40,079
qualifications, bachelor's degree
parentheses, masters preferred, and then

1520
02:14:35,920 --> 02:14:44,480
leave it alone, five years is minimum.
And then if we want to keep that or in

1521
02:14:42,159 --> 02:14:51,760
there just for the heck of it, just in
case we get some applicant that doesn't

1522
02:14:47,520 --> 02:14:54,800
have a degree, um, that's fine.
I'd be good with that. I I think we need

1523
02:14:53,679 --> 02:15:01,760
to break that down just a little bit
more, Commissioner Stevens. Um, based on

1524
02:14:57,679 --> 02:15:05,040
master's with I I don't want to put a
master's degree and a bachelor's degree

1525
02:15:03,119 --> 02:15:08,000
in the same bucket. I I'd rather have a
master's degree. If you're going to and

1526
02:15:06,400 --> 02:15:11,280
you're going to put experience, master's
degree with two years experience,

1527
02:15:09,520 --> 02:15:15,199
bachelor's degree with eight years
experience. If we're really going to

1528
02:15:12,960 --> 02:15:18,880
differentiate, let's put the guy with a
bachelor's degree have a little bit more

1529
02:15:16,960 --> 02:15:24,400
experience because commissioner Florida
stated the or guy is requiring 10 years

1530
02:15:22,159 --> 02:15:30,000
of experience. So why don't we decipher
masters with two, bachelors with five or

1531
02:15:27,360 --> 02:15:35,320
eight and or the or guy with 10 years of
experience.

1532
02:15:32,320 --> 02:15:35,320
» Okay.

1533
02:15:36,480 --> 02:15:42,719
» Because that captures everybody at that
point. This captures everybody and it

1534
02:15:40,400 --> 02:15:47,679
lets the commissioner of Florida says
the rubric will allow us to determine

1535
02:15:45,199 --> 02:15:51,599
masters, bachelor's or not degree and
it'll allow us to do the the selection

1536
02:15:50,079 --> 02:15:57,360
process easier especially if we're going
to do a point system.

1537
02:15:53,920 --> 02:16:01,119
» So you're going to do masters with two?
>> I'd leave it at five and then put

1538
02:15:59,360 --> 02:16:04,480
bachelors with eight.
>> Okay,

1539
02:16:02,719 --> 02:16:08,159
sounds good. But then we really don't
need this 10 or 10year option. Get rid

1540
02:16:07,679 --> 02:16:10,000
of that.
>> I like the tenure.

1541
02:16:09,440 --> 02:16:11,679
» You do?
>> Yeah.

1542
02:16:10,320 --> 02:16:14,960
» But that's saying that if they don't
have any degree.

1543
02:16:13,280 --> 02:16:19,520
» I think I like it straight up the way
you guys said it. Masters with whatever

1544
02:16:17,040 --> 02:16:23,119
years and bachelor with whatever years
instead of the or with

1545
02:16:21,760 --> 02:16:28,599
» I'm okay with that, too.
>> Cuz who is that 10year candidate with no

1546
02:16:25,599 --> 02:16:28,599
degree?

1547
02:16:29,280 --> 02:16:36,399
» I don't know.
>> Yeah. Whatever you guys I don't I don't

1548
02:16:33,920 --> 02:16:42,639
know. But I will say for the record, I'm
not applying for county manager like

1549
02:16:39,920 --> 02:16:46,240
» was said before. I want that.
>> Can we go masters with three, bachelor's

1550
02:16:44,639 --> 02:16:48,160
with six?
>> Is that fair?

1551
02:16:47,359 --> 02:16:52,080
» Fine with me?
>> Because I mean to pursue a master's

1552
02:16:49,359 --> 02:16:55,559
degree is three years of pain anyways if
you do it fast.

1553
02:16:55,599 --> 02:17:02,800
» I agree. Yeah.
>> But let me ask this to our county

1554
02:17:00,240 --> 02:17:08,319
manager and our HR.
Shouldn't anything in there have to have

1555
02:17:05,599 --> 02:17:15,120
relevant experience
relevant experience to county manager?

1556
02:17:11,280 --> 02:17:19,880
Because say I had a a master's degree
with three years experience of doing

1557
02:17:21,200 --> 02:17:27,439
hiking whatever I've qualified for it
but I might not even know the first

1558
02:17:25,519 --> 02:17:32,319
thing on how to write a PO
>> or follow our procurement code.

1559
02:17:29,840 --> 02:17:36,639
» We would leave the language in here.
progressively responsible executive or

1560
02:17:33,920 --> 02:17:41,280
senior management. He he defines what
he's asking for that experience. So

1561
02:17:39,200 --> 02:17:44,479
» masters with three, bachelors with six
and defined the way you defined it,

1562
02:17:42,880 --> 02:17:47,479
Commissioner Flores, I think it would be
perfect.

1563
02:17:48,080 --> 02:17:51,080
» Cool.

1564
02:17:54,080 --> 02:18:01,639
Who's going to provide this final job
description to our HR representative?

1565
02:18:02,880 --> 02:18:09,280
Do you have anything?
>> Just um with the changes, we just have

1566
02:18:07,840 --> 02:18:11,840
to create a new one with with the
changes, right?

1567
02:18:10,160 --> 02:18:17,519
» Can can we just have our HR
representative take what we just said

1568
02:18:14,399 --> 02:18:19,760
and fix this and post it?
>> Yeah.

1569
02:18:18,319 --> 02:18:23,599
» So that's that's the second question.
How long do you guys want to post it

1570
02:18:21,120 --> 02:18:28,000
for?
>> I mean, she can do the work, post it,

1571
02:18:26,479 --> 02:18:33,920
» but for how long do you want to leave it
open? for 30 days, 15 days, 10 days, and

1572
02:18:31,439 --> 02:18:36,080
then where do you want it to go? Those
are other questions you're going to have

1573
02:18:35,040 --> 02:18:42,439
to answer to.
>> County manager, what's the standard for

1574
02:18:37,840 --> 02:18:42,439
posting for a county manager? Daywise,

1575
02:18:42,639 --> 02:18:49,200
» I believe the first time I applied here,
it was open for 30 days, and when I

1576
02:18:47,359 --> 02:18:53,840
applied in Sierra County, it was open
for 30 days.

1577
02:18:51,599 --> 02:18:58,960
So if we did 30 days and we did New
Mexico counties, the New Mexico

1578
02:18:56,319 --> 02:19:04,639
municipal league
indeed and just like on our website,

1579
02:19:02,240 --> 02:19:10,000
would that be a good starting point?
I'll take the New Mexico County Mun

1580
02:19:06,719 --> 02:19:14,080
Municipal League our website
>> for now

1581
02:19:11,200 --> 02:19:19,439
» and I mean we can review the
applications with with HR um to give us

1582
02:19:17,840 --> 02:19:23,439
guidance on some and then from there if
we have to we can open it up even

1583
02:19:20,960 --> 02:19:26,439
further.
>> Right.

1584
02:19:26,559 --> 02:19:33,920
» Good. I'm I'm probably going to be gone
by the time all this dust settles. So,

1585
02:19:31,519 --> 02:19:37,280
it's whatever you guys want really.
>> So, you got a motion so we can approve

1586
02:19:35,920 --> 02:19:42,240
it so we can get it posted, make the
changes today and get get it posted.

1587
02:19:38,880 --> 02:19:47,599
» Yes. I motion that um we move forward
with the job description that we

1588
02:19:43,439 --> 02:19:52,319
discussed. our HR manager will make the
changes that we discussed for the job

1589
02:19:49,359 --> 02:19:58,399
description and that it be posted for 30
days

1590
02:19:53,840 --> 02:20:01,200
um on New Mexico counties and
>> municipal leak

1591
02:20:00,080 --> 02:20:06,120
» and county website
>> and county website

1592
02:20:03,120 --> 02:20:06,120
» second.

1593
02:20:10,960 --> 02:20:18,080
Is that your motion? Yes, my motion.
Second.

1594
02:20:14,479 --> 02:20:23,120
» Who second? I was thinking, but okay. We
got a motion by Commissioner Fus, second

1595
02:20:20,000 --> 02:20:26,479
by Commissioner Shalley. Um, any further
discussion?

1596
02:20:24,000 --> 02:20:30,800
» Quick question for the HR director. Did
you get the changes? Masters of three,

1597
02:20:28,319 --> 02:20:33,120
bachelors of six, and the stays in.
>> Yeah.

1598
02:20:31,280 --> 02:20:37,600
» Okay, good deal.
The other discussion that I' I'd just

1599
02:20:34,880 --> 02:20:42,319
like to have is that for 30 days
applications that come in

1600
02:20:40,080 --> 02:20:47,920
do not go out to anybody, not even the
commissioners till we all have a chance

1601
02:20:44,479 --> 02:20:53,359
to meet, sit on and and discuss them.
>> And and at that point, we because

1602
02:20:50,240 --> 02:20:55,760
there's probably going to be some news
release stuff that we're going to have

1603
02:20:54,640 --> 02:21:00,479
to do and we're going to have to get
with legal and and go down that road.

1604
02:20:58,160 --> 02:21:07,520
But whatever you get confidential, put
them, hold them till we decide to open

1605
02:21:04,800 --> 02:21:10,800
them up and look at them. Any
Commissioner Flores?

1606
02:21:08,880 --> 02:21:16,000
» Yes. Thank you, Mr. Chair. The only
comments I have is I want to thank um

1607
02:21:13,920 --> 02:21:19,520
the staff, County Manager Web, for
sending me the job description. I want

1608
02:21:17,359 --> 02:21:23,840
to thank the chairman for reaching out
to other county managers and getting me

1609
02:21:21,680 --> 02:21:28,640
their job description. And like I said,
I didn't reinvent the wheel. I also got

1610
02:21:26,720 --> 02:21:32,640
help from Jenny Panti who helped me
tremendously and I just looked at other

1611
02:21:30,800 --> 02:21:39,439
resources to help put this together and
that's what we came up with and hand it

1612
02:21:35,600 --> 02:21:43,600
out to you. Thank you.
>> Thank you.

1613
02:21:41,359 --> 02:21:49,200
Any further discussion?
>> Oh, one more comment. I just want to say

1614
02:21:46,000 --> 02:21:52,760
that uh County Manager Web's shoes will
be hard to fill.

1615
02:21:54,479 --> 02:22:02,080
You second that.
>> I'll third. But anyway, we have a all

1616
02:22:00,319 --> 02:22:06,800
those in favor.
>> I I motion carries. Okay. So, we have

1617
02:22:04,240 --> 02:22:14,680
direction. The public has a direction
we're headed in. So, okay. Moving on to

1618
02:22:10,160 --> 02:22:14,680
agreements. Agreement 8-26-14.

1619
02:22:14,880 --> 02:22:18,800
» Motion to approve.
>> Second.

1620
02:22:17,359 --> 02:22:23,359
» So, motion by Commissioner Medina,
second by Commissioner Flores. Do we

1621
02:22:20,479 --> 02:22:26,720
have any further discussion
or any discussion? Seeing none, all

1622
02:22:25,280 --> 02:22:32,600
those in favor?
>> I I motion carries.

1623
02:22:28,240 --> 02:22:32,600
» Moving on to agreement A-26-15.

1624
02:22:32,800 --> 02:22:39,200
» Motion.
>> Second. I have a motion by Commissioner

1625
02:22:36,800 --> 02:22:42,240
Medina. I second the motion. Do we have
any discussion?

1626
02:22:41,359 --> 02:22:48,000
» Yes, ma'am.
>> Uh chairman, I just uh want to clarify.

1627
02:22:45,280 --> 02:22:53,439
I know this has come up before uh that
there's there's sometimes some uh public

1628
02:22:50,640 --> 02:22:58,640
confusion about this Stone Garden grant
and my understanding is it's just for

1629
02:22:56,160 --> 02:23:03,680
overtime. It has nothing to do with
immigration enforcement. Is that

1630
02:23:01,439 --> 02:23:06,399
correct,
>> Mr. Chairman? Commissioners, that is

1631
02:23:05,840 --> 02:23:11,680
correct
>> for overtime to work the drug

1632
02:23:09,680 --> 02:23:15,280
trafficking and human smuggling
assisting with that.

1633
02:23:14,479 --> 02:23:18,640
Thank you.
>> I think the only confusion was two of

1634
02:23:17,040 --> 02:23:22,040
our council members from the town of
Silver City.

1635
02:23:23,200 --> 02:23:26,600
Anything else?

1636
02:23:27,200 --> 02:23:34,240
All those in favor?
>> I motion carries.

1637
02:23:31,280 --> 02:23:38,800
» Moving on to no resolutions. Moving on
to Commissioner comments. Commissioner

1638
02:23:36,960 --> 02:23:44,479
Flores.
>> I think I said all my comments earlier.

1639
02:23:41,040 --> 02:23:48,800
Thank you, Mr. Chair. Mr. Medina.
>> Yeah. Just a quick reminder, the 30th of

1640
02:23:47,040 --> 02:23:52,720
this month, I'll be doing another
quarterly up in the members. Um I've

1641
02:23:50,640 --> 02:24:00,319
asked the sheriff to attend the county
manager to discuss the um bond sales and

1642
02:23:56,000 --> 02:24:02,880
the vote coming up. Um and um I got a
couple other meditations I got to

1643
02:24:01,760 --> 02:24:08,240
extend, but that thing starts about
11:30, last an hour or two. Just want to

1644
02:24:05,680 --> 02:24:11,680
remind everybody, it's all done.
>> Commissioner Stevens,

1645
02:24:09,600 --> 02:24:18,920
» nothing at this time.
Commissioner Shelley,

1646
02:24:13,920 --> 02:24:18,920
» uh, no report. Thank you.

1647
02:24:19,439 --> 02:24:26,000
» You know,
you know, and today, I know,

1648
02:24:23,200 --> 02:24:31,040
Commissioner, we brought up a lot of the
Facebook and and and you know, people

1649
02:24:28,800 --> 02:24:35,359
just like to, you know, and I've noticed
two or three people that

1650
02:24:33,520 --> 02:24:41,600
continually just throw things out there
to to get stir things up. But I noticed

1651
02:24:38,080 --> 02:24:47,040
that there was one on Facebook that part
of the public wanted to see if uh the

1652
02:24:44,640 --> 02:24:51,840
commissioners can do and probably this
would be for you guys down the road

1653
02:24:48,560 --> 02:24:59,359
probably in in next year, but to do an
evening commissioner meeting

1654
02:24:54,880 --> 02:25:03,359
and because that gives people time to uh
to uh

1655
02:25:01,920 --> 02:25:06,800
get out of work and come to these
commission meetings. I I know that in

1656
02:25:05,120 --> 02:25:12,960
the past or I know that in our eight
years or my eight years here, you know,

1657
02:25:09,680 --> 02:25:17,600
you go to the evening part or or you
want to have a meeting in the evening,

1658
02:25:15,120 --> 02:25:22,720
all of a sudden we have to go to little
league, we have to get dinner ready, we

1659
02:25:19,920 --> 02:25:26,640
just got out of work, we do this and at
the end of the day we're going to end up

1660
02:25:24,000 --> 02:25:33,520
the same same amount of people here
anyway, you know. And if you look, the

1661
02:25:29,359 --> 02:25:38,960
only time we get a large crowd is
increasing fees for solid waste, you

1662
02:25:35,840 --> 02:25:45,439
know, maybe the data center, stuff like
this. But, you know, just food for

1663
02:25:41,439 --> 02:25:51,760
thought. Um if you guys because next
year you might have a different set of

1664
02:25:48,240 --> 02:25:57,840
open meeting uh rule rules or open
meeting act

1665
02:25:53,840 --> 02:26:01,760
you know different things here and there
just keep you know food for thought

1666
02:25:59,680 --> 02:26:08,080
would you like to try one meeting in the
evening and I know it it it runs into

1667
02:26:04,080 --> 02:26:12,880
our county staff runs into overtime runs
into their work our elected officials

1668
02:26:11,040 --> 02:26:18,720
don't get overtime time it puts a burden
on them. I'm not saying do it. I'm just

1669
02:26:16,399 --> 02:26:22,640
saying if if you guys food for thought,
look at it. Maybe have one. That way you

1670
02:26:20,720 --> 02:26:27,920
have an idea for next year what you guys
want to do. Or if you don't, don't.

1671
02:26:25,600 --> 02:26:35,520
Doesn't bother me any we I think we
tried it once a long time ago and we had

1672
02:26:30,800 --> 02:26:36,800
the the same people write two or three.
>> Huh?

1673
02:26:36,080 --> 02:26:40,720
» Not once.
>> I think we had one for five for

1674
02:26:38,560 --> 02:26:45,920
something. I don't remember what. And
just food for thought, but we also have

1675
02:26:42,960 --> 02:26:50,640
to consider our staff. So that's all I
have. Something you guys think of and if

1676
02:26:47,439 --> 02:26:55,319
you want it, try it. Not no big deal.
Anything else, commissioners, that you

1677
02:26:52,000 --> 02:26:55,319
may have forgotten.

1678
02:27:01,439 --> 02:27:06,479
Okay.
Meeting adjourn.