[1:20] Alicia, give me a second.
[2:20] Two
[2:53] I'm not
[3:09] sure.
[3:17] » Welcome everybody. This is a regular
[3:19] meeting and public hearing of the
[3:20] Grantsville City Council. For the
[3:22] record, today's date is April 1st. This
[3:25] is not a joke. So, here we are, 2026,
[3:29] and the time is 7 p.m. Then, this
[3:31] meeting is being held at the Grantsville
[3:33] City Council Chambers located at 429
[3:35] East Main Street in Grantsville, Utah,
[3:38] as well as electronically by Zoom. I am
[3:41] Mayor Heidi Hammond, and I will conduct
[3:42] a roll call. Council member Thomas
[3:44] >> here.
[3:45] >> Williams,
[3:46] >> here.
[3:46] >> Butler,
[3:47] >> here. Dalton. Oh, and Council Member
[3:50] Skinner is excused. So, I apologize. I
[3:53] didn't remember that. So, yes, she will
[3:54] not be joining us tonight. She's out of
[3:56] town. Uh, next, I've asked Les Peterson
[3:59] to lead us in the pledge of allegiance.
[4:03] >> You all please rise. Those of you who
[4:05] are military veterans, you may salute or
[4:08] place your hand over your heart. The
[4:10] choice is yours. When the command is
[4:13] given, please render the proper respect
[4:15] to the flag. Present armed.
[4:19] Please follow me in the pledge of
[4:21] allegiance.
[4:22] >> I aliance to the flag of the United
[4:26] States of America and to the republic
[4:29] for which it stands, one nation under
[4:32] God, indivisible, with liberty and
[4:35] justice for all. To you may be seated.
[4:44] » Thank you very much, Les.
[4:48] Uh the first item we have on our agenda
[4:50] tonight is for public comment. There
[4:53] were two comments that were received in
[4:55] support of bringing back the rodeo. They
[4:57] will not be read, but they have been um
[5:00] entered into public record and they have
[5:02] been distributed to the council members.
[5:03] So, they have all seen those comments.
[5:06] Um
[5:08] the floor is open to the public to bring
[5:11] their concerns to the council. And if
[5:13] you are on Zoom and would like to make a
[5:15] comment, please use the raise your hand
[5:18] feature for that and Alicia will let you
[5:20] know when it is your turn to speak.
[5:29] Good evening. Uh my name is Kevin Casey,
[5:32] a citizen of Grantsville. Before this
[5:35] council votes tonight to raise our
[5:37] rates, I want to put seven years of city
[5:39] decisions on the record for the people
[5:42] because this is not a revenue problem.
[5:44] This is a planning and accountability
[5:46] problem. This has been a problem known
[5:48] since 2018, which equals 7 years of
[5:50] inaction by this body. In 2018, city
[5:54] officials and elected representatives
[5:55] knew we had a wastewater compliance
[5:57] problem. The state's phosphorous rules
[5:59] were known. The clock was ticking and
[6:02] yet seven years later, here we are with
[6:04] zero dollars budgeted for sewer capital
[6:07] improvements. 0% asset renewal funding
[6:10] confirmed in the city's own planning
[6:12] reports. A project cost has ballooned
[6:15] from 32 million in 2022 to 39 to 48
[6:18] million today, which is a direct
[6:21] consequence of this delay.
[6:24] A hard regulatory deadline of March 2029
[6:27] we now face and have no option. This was
[6:30] an absolute failure of planning and
[6:32] elected accountability. There has been
[6:34] time to plan, budget, and save, but the
[6:38] will was not there. Three of our elected
[6:41] representatives have been in their seats
[6:42] since 2022. Mayor Hammond, Council
[6:46] Member Butler, and Council Member
[6:47] Williams were all sworn in together in
[6:50] January 2022. All three were present and
[6:53] voting for four of these seven years.
[6:55] Every budget they approve funded
[6:57] bureaucratic growth while allocating
[6:59] zero dollars to the infrastructure
[7:01] crisis they knew existed. Elected
[7:04] accountability means you are responsible
[7:06] for what's happened on your watch,
[7:08] including what did not happen.
[7:11] While our infrastructure was neglected,
[7:13] the bureaucracy grew. What did our
[7:15] representatives vote for and approved
[7:17] during those years while the sewer
[7:19] problem went unressed? Well, the city
[7:22] budget grew by 84% from 11.3 to 20.8
[7:26] million. Employee compensation growth
[7:28] has grown 85%.
[7:31] And staffing growth has grown 45%.
[7:34] Spending grew 84%.
[7:36] Staffing grew 45% while the population
[7:39] has only grown 30%.
[7:42] The city's response to all of this has
[7:44] been zero accountability yet 100%
[7:48] extraction from the taxpayers. Faced
[7:50] with a crisis entirely of its own
[7:52] making, the city has proposed one
[7:54] solution. We, the citizens, pay more.
[7:57] What has not been proposed, discussed,
[7:59] or even mentioned by city officials or
[8:01] these elected representatives, is no
[8:03] spending reductions of any kind. No
[8:06] hiring freeze despite staffing growth
[8:08] already outpacing our population by a
[8:10] factor of 1.5. No reduction in the 40%
[8:13] of the budget consumed by payroll. Not
[8:16] even an acknowledgment that seven years
[8:18] of zero capital reinvestment was a
[8:20] mistake. Every solution presented
[8:22] instead extracts more from us. A 147%
[8:26] sewer rate increase over four years,
[8:28] higher impact fees ultimately absorbed
[8:30] by the homeowner, and long-term bond
[8:33] debt placed on our public balance sheet.
[8:35] Every solution, or I'm sorry, the city
[8:38] has failed to plan and the city refuses
[8:40] to share in the burden of its own
[8:42] causing. Yet, the city expects citizens
[8:44] to pay for both the failure and the
[8:46] solution with no reduction or correction
[8:49] in the government that caused this
[8:51] problem. The question this council must
[8:54] answer, the citizens, neither old or
[8:56] new, caused this crisis. We were not
[8:59] consulted on why the city failed to
[9:01] budget and plan for this. We were not
[9:03] given a choice between growing city
[9:05] staff by 45% or funding our own sewer
[9:07] system, but we are being handed the
[9:09] bill. Before voting to raise our rates
[9:13] again, this council owes us a direct
[9:14] answer. What specific spending
[9:17] reductions, hiring freezes, or budget
[9:19] cuts is the city prepared to make to
[9:20] share in the burden of its own failure
[9:22] to plan? As I have stated numerous times
[9:25] from this podium, the bureaucracies do
[9:27] not restrain themselves. They expand,
[9:30] which is precisely why you were elected
[9:33] to impose discipline, protect us, the
[9:35] taxpayers. If the only tools this
[9:38] council will use are rate increases and
[9:40] new debt, we deserve to know that
[9:42] plainly so that everyone in this room
[9:44] and everyone in this city knows the kind
[9:46] of representation in government we have.
[9:49] This is a direct demand for
[9:50] accountability and this is not rhetoric.
[9:53] This is directly from the city's own
[9:54] numbers and own budgets. Thank you.
[9:58] >> Thank you. Um, multiple false statements
[10:01] were made in that claim, but we will
[10:03] address those when we get to the sewer
[10:05] treatment discussion. Are there any
[10:07] other comments?
[10:12] » Uh, before I start, is it can
[10:15] >> you state your name, please?
[10:16] >> Oh, Caleb Martin.
[10:17] >> Thank you.
[10:17] >> Uh, can the public comment be about any
[10:19] concern in the city?
[10:20] >> Yes.
[10:21] >> Okay. Uh so I'm concerned about
[10:25] uh car dependence in our city where
[10:28] uh everyone drives a car which makes it
[10:31] more unsafe. There were over 60,000 car
[10:33] crashes in Utah in 2023 alone and you
[10:38] know our our streets are built super
[10:40] wide. I measured my own road outside of
[10:43] my house. It's like about 14 ft wide and
[10:46] highways are about 12 ft wide. So it
[10:48] encourages speeding
[10:50] also. uh everything is spread out so
[10:55] people have to drive
[10:59] uh because and then it's spread out
[11:01] because of uklidian zoning which like
[11:03] separates residential commercial all of
[11:05] that uh as well as having parking
[11:08] minimums which states that every
[11:10] business must have so many parking lots.
[11:14] Um, and most of the time it goes unused,
[11:16] which just generates infrastructure
[11:19] costs and it does not generate any tax
[11:21] revenue in return.
[11:23] >> Um,
[11:26] yeah, that's about it.
[11:28] >> I I applaud you as a youth having the
[11:30] courage to come and speak. Thank you.
[11:32] >> I'm nervous.
[11:32] >> No, you're great.
[11:33] >> Can I say something to that?
[11:34] >> Yes, please.
[11:35] >> Um, I know we usually don't have the
[11:37] opportunity, Caleb. Um, we have a
[11:39] Grantsville Youth Council. I would
[11:42] encourage you to to be involved in that.
[11:46] Um it's a fantastic opportunity to get
[11:49] involved in your community. So anyway,
[11:51] thanks for your comment.
[12:01] » Hello, my name is Christine Clayton. I
[12:03] grew up riding in the Grantsville Arena
[12:06] starting at the age of 6 years old. I
[12:09] competed here and I won many trophies
[12:10] and belt buckles and I even earned my
[12:13] first high school rodeial belt buckle
[12:15] right here in Gratzville.
[12:17] Six years ago, my family decided to move
[12:19] here and I was very proud that the arena
[12:22] was just down the street.
[12:24] That's why I strongly support bringing a
[12:26] hometown rodeo back to our community.
[12:29] Rodeos preserve our western heritage and
[12:31] keep those traditions alive for the next
[12:33] generation. They build community pride
[12:36] by bringing families together,
[12:38] neighbors, and local businesses.
[12:41] They also provide an economic boost by
[12:44] drawing visitors
[12:45] and they offer family-friendly
[12:47] environment where people of all ages, can come out and
[12:52] enjoy. I fully support Rodeo
[12:56] and bringing it back to this community
[12:58] to give the next generation the same
[13:00] kind of memories that I have of this
[13:01] community. Thank you. Any
[13:06] additional comments?
[13:10] » I'm Tracy Haw and I'm also in favor of
[13:12] bringing back the rodeo. That's it.
[13:16] >> Same same kind of reasons.
[13:17] >> Same exact reason.
[13:19] >> Thank you.
[13:27] » Yep. Mark Nielson, president of
[13:30] Gransville. So, uh um um I like the idea
[13:34] of the rodeo myself, but uh no offense
[13:38] people or anything, but man, I come from
[13:40] a smaller town than this. And our
[13:43] facility was a lot bigger. We had a lot
[13:45] more stuff. And I mean, I wish you guys
[13:47] could have the rodeo because man, I'm
[13:49] all old farm boy myself, but I just
[13:52] don't see Yeah, you guys aren't even
[13:53] close to what we had back home. And
[13:55] yeah, and you guys even got five times
[13:59] the population, too. So, but anyway, I
[14:02] have to agree with the first gentleman
[14:03] that spoke out. There's some public
[14:06] concerns here that need to be addressed.
[14:08] Um um and then the gentleman that
[14:11] brought up on our roads, man. Um like
[14:14] the gentleman said, you guys are city
[14:15] council. You're supposed to be
[14:16] representing us. And um
[14:19] I'm sure you guys live around here or
[14:22] travel, whatever. But I mean, you guys
[14:24] are actually the first city I've ever
[14:25] been to or or even my boys have worked
[14:28] at. And uh you don't have a bypass road
[14:31] for all your truckers. You guys bring
[14:33] them right down here on the main street.
[14:35] Uh that's wear and tear on your roads
[14:37] and everything. Your structural uh um
[14:39] your engineers, your planners, the
[14:41] planning people, they ought to know
[14:42] this. Uh kind of weird because I follow
[14:44] so many of the truckers because I don't
[14:46] work. I'm the slacker freeloader. saying
[14:48] I follow so many trucks, man, going out
[14:50] to the Walmart and down that main
[14:52] highway where they can come that back
[14:53] road and I mean alleviate a lot of this
[14:56] traffic and these accidents that are
[14:57] happening kind of flabbergasted that the
[15:01] last five years that now you guys got
[15:03] main traffic going down this road here.
[15:05] That absolutely makes no sense when you
[15:06] got another road that they can go down
[15:08] on. And the second thing is is the
[15:11] gentleman here uh uh accountability. Um
[15:14] everyone's accountability. It doesn't
[15:16] matter who went or how many years goes
[15:18] by. And now you guys are putting a
[15:21] burden on the uh um uh uh people because
[15:24] of the sewer thing. Well, last year I
[15:27] had to go and report to the city that
[15:29] you had people that was stealing water
[15:32] out of your guys' houses out here. Had
[15:34] the connections to go right to your to
[15:36] the fire hydrant and was filling their
[15:38] uh water trucks to do these water
[15:40] projects out here. um that's money that
[15:42] we're paying, you know, the water, the
[15:44] cleaning and everything, but nothing
[15:46] seems to be important, you know. So, I'm
[15:49] a little confused why you guys are
[15:51] asking, you know, for us for an increase
[15:53] when we have all this other stuff. And
[15:55] it took us over two times before, you
[15:59] know, hey, they had to have the uh
[16:00] counter on the vehic or on the on the
[16:03] hose that they was filling up the truck
[16:04] so forth and that. But I mean, it was
[16:06] funny that we go, we're taking pictures
[16:08] of these guys and they know what's going
[16:09] on. And by the time we go from, we'll
[16:12] say, let's see here, where the dollar
[16:14] store is down to the city office. We go
[16:16] from there back, they've already picked
[16:18] up and moved, you know, we got the
[16:20] pictures and everything that we showed.
[16:21] And like I said, you guys are confusing
[16:24] because you guys aren't addressing
[16:26] anything and stealing. Hey, that that's
[16:28] a crime. Like I said, no one's above
[16:30] that. So, uh, so yeah. And you guys
[16:33] can't say you're not aware of it because
[16:34] like I said, it happened two times last
[16:36] year. You guys have to be aware of it.
[16:38] You can't sit here and say, "No, I I
[16:40] don't I'm not aware of it." I mean,
[16:42] that's like the thing I brought up of
[16:43] the uh um violating people's rights and
[16:47] the civil rights and that violating them
[16:50] in that. Not one of you even asked then,
[16:53] hey, what what what's going on? What is
[16:54] it? You know, the handicap around here
[16:56] is terrible. It's not up to date. And
[16:58] you guys for the last four or five
[16:59] years, because like I said, I've got the videos, everything. It's on tape,
[17:03] man. You guys haven't done anything. You
[17:06] don't care. You have to care. That's a
[17:08] federal law. I mean, like like the
[17:11] gentleman said, no one is above the law,
[17:14] you know. Let's get our stuff together.
[17:16] You got too many people moving in. Thank
[17:18] you.
[17:19] >> Thank you.
[17:28] No, go ahead.
[17:29] >> Sorry.
[17:30] >> Um, I'll make this really quick, but I
[17:33] just want to say that uh I'm Sam Martin
[17:35] and uh I support uh my or I second my
[17:39] brother's
[17:41] um statements. I think that
[17:44] um transportation of any kind, whether
[17:48] it be just normal walking, cars, um
[17:53] public transit or whatever, you know, it
[17:55] should be safe as safe as possible. And
[18:00] um it it should be
[18:04] reasonably done to an extent to be safe
[18:07] while still um not being of course
[18:10] impractical, right? and that type of
[18:11] thing. Okay. Sorry.
[18:13] >> No, thank you. Thank you for your
[18:14] comments.
[18:20] » All right. My name is Jolene Jenkins. I
[18:23] still
[18:24] >> Yeah, I'm like you guys come talk to me
[18:27] later, but I still remember my way here.
[18:29] Uh just a couple of things that I want
[18:31] to bring up today. Uh, first of all, I
[18:35] wanted to thank you for your support and
[18:37] the work that you've done so far to help
[18:39] with our Veterans Park. And I I want to
[18:42] encourage you to vote in favor of this
[18:46] bid that you have before you tonight.
[18:48] Um, it's a local company and I I think
[18:52] he understands how much this means to
[18:55] our community and will do a good job.
[18:59] and and he understands also that a lot
[19:02] of that money has come from community
[19:04] members donating what they've got and
[19:07] giving and our veterans just hitting the
[19:11] pavement and working for donations and
[19:14] grants and things like that. We have a
[19:16] couple of other grants that we've
[19:18] recently applied for. We're hoping to um
[19:21] keep finding sponsors and donations and
[19:24] grants and cuz we we still have a ways
[19:27] ahead of us, but uh we do appreciate all
[19:30] the support and the work that you're
[19:32] doing so far. And hopefully we I I
[19:34] really feel like once this work starts,
[19:39] when actual on the ground work starts,
[19:42] then it's just going to start rolling
[19:43] and we're going to get this done and be
[19:45] able to honor our veterans. Um I I've
[19:48] been amazed. I can't even How many names
[19:52] do we have so far?
[19:53] >> A little over,200.
[19:55] >> So yeah, we have a little over,200 names
[19:58] of local veterans that will go on that
[20:00] wall so far. And that's just the tip of
[20:02] the iceberg. We haven't got everyone. We
[20:05] and we encourage the community to submit
[20:07] those names. We've got forms on the city
[20:10] website where you can submit those names
[20:13] of of your loved ones, your veterans
[20:15] that are from here in Grantsville. So,
[20:19] just I I hope that and that you'll
[20:22] continue to support us and we can see
[20:24] this accomplished here pretty sooner
[20:28] rather than later. And the second thing
[20:31] I honestly I'm glad you got in your
[20:34] seats. Um, as far as like I I I I think
[20:41] it's it's hard to look past all the
[20:45] inner workings that are happening and
[20:48] all of the things that you all the
[20:50] moving pieces that you've got to keep in
[20:52] place. Um, I know I I do wish we had
[20:57] this water wastewater treatment plant
[20:59] built already because it is something
[21:01] we've been working on for quite a few
[21:03] years. And um, and that's the beauty of
[21:07] government is that it takes
[21:10] time, right? You had to go through these
[21:12] different processes. Um, just one thing
[21:15] that I would encourage you to because I
[21:17] get it. we need it and we've got to pay
[21:20] for it somehow and and I I understand
[21:22] the rate increases, but um if you would
[21:26] consider researching if there's a
[21:29] possibility to have a fee reduction and
[21:34] you could set the criteria for um the
[21:37] elderly for you know like you you decide
[21:41] on that but um that those are the people
[21:44] that I worry about the most um with the
[21:47] property tax increases. Um, you know,
[21:50] like different socioeconomic groups and
[21:53] the elderly. Like if you could research
[21:55] what other cities have done or what we
[21:58] could do here in Grantsville to maybe
[22:00] reduce those those fees for those
[22:03] people, I think that would help our
[22:05] community and we can still get the
[22:08] things we need without hurting the most
[22:10] vulnerable in our community. Thank you
[22:12] for the work you do.
[22:23] Good evening, Lorine Simpson, citizen.
[22:26] So,
[22:27] several meetings ago, I had asked a few
[22:31] questions. Um,
[22:33] but I first off want to say on the
[22:36] rodeo, I too grew up in a small town in
[22:39] the country, Wyoming, beautiful, and we
[22:44] had wonderful rodeos.
[22:47] Um, I'm not opposed to having the rodeo
[22:49] come back. I think it would be great,
[22:51] but my question is, where's the funding
[22:53] coming from to support that? and what
[22:57] else can you do to raise funds to
[22:59] support bringing the rodeo back? Um
[23:03] there I asked before on the sold water
[23:07] shares
[23:09] uh $18 million I believe. What is the
[23:13] city's plans to do with that money?
[23:16] because if it's going for something
[23:19] other than alleviating the burden on the
[23:22] citizens for that treatment plant
[23:26] that should be heavily reconsidered. Um
[23:30] it should go to that and strictly for
[23:34] nothing else but that. Um, I also asked
[23:39] you, Mayor Hammond, who we can contact
[23:44] at the Capitol, senators, um,
[23:49] congressmen, anybody that we could write
[23:52] to to stress our concerns
[23:57] and ask for assistance from the state
[24:01] and let them know
[24:03] what um, predicament that this city is
[24:06] in and what how you're putting the
[24:08] citizens
[24:11] a financial burden.
[24:12] >> May I interrupt you for just a second on
[24:14] that?
[24:14] >> I have spoke with many senators and with
[24:17] their staff many people at the state
[24:20] just in the last week doing everything
[24:22] we can to address that issue and we'll
[24:24] be discussing that more as we get to
[24:26] that topic. I I have worked at a company
[24:31] for 30 years
[24:33] and have been a union member of that
[24:37] company for 30 years and I know the
[24:40] power of voice and lobbying
[24:44] can it can work wonders but yet we have
[24:48] not I asked you said you didn't know
[24:52] when I asked you
[24:54] >> and I've since I find that fault
[24:57] statement because I believe you did know
[25:00] when I asked you. Um,
[25:04] we need to get that out there so that
[25:06] all the citizens can send a postcard,
[25:11] make a phone call, anything because when
[25:15] they hear from
[25:18] 5,000 6,000 people, it makes a
[25:22] difference rather than hearing from a
[25:25] few, you know.
[25:27] >> I agree. And so that information needs
[25:30] to be given to us so that we can start
[25:34] doing our part to alleviate this cost
[25:38] and stuff. But I would like an answer on
[25:42] the money from the water shares.
[25:45] How you going to fund the rodeo and a
[25:48] precedence? Everything takes a
[25:50] precedence and you need to put
[25:53] what's the most important thing and then
[25:56] go down. What is second important? What
[25:58] is third? What can we set off for a
[26:01] later date? Because um there has to be a
[26:06] plan and you can't just,
[26:09] you know, I want this to happen and so
[26:13] I'm going to ask for the funds. There's
[26:15] a priority and we need to stick to that
[26:17] priority and that's up to you guys to
[26:19] tell us what it is. What's your
[26:21] priority? Thank you. Thank you.
[26:34] Hi, I'm Arlene Mayor and first of all, I
[26:37] want to say that I hope that you will
[26:40] approve the funding for the veterans
[26:43] committee. Um, I just think it's
[26:46] Grantsville is quite a large community
[26:50] these days. And before we started this
[26:52] project, my husband and I went to all
[26:54] the outlying communities around here.
[26:57] Stockton has a veterans park. Um, Vernon
[27:01] has a veterans park. They're all tiny little towns and yet they all have
[27:06] that. And I think it it's really
[27:08] important that Grantsville start to
[27:11] honor its veterans. and I hope that you
[27:12] will improve the funding to start this
[27:14] project. We have been a lot of years
[27:17] working on this and many of our
[27:20] committee members have actually dipped
[27:22] into their own pockets to try to get
[27:24] this going. So, I really hope that this
[27:26] will get approved so that we can
[27:29] actually see something happening and
[27:32] that we will get this done eventually.
[27:35] I'm hoping sooner than later, but I
[27:38] realize how slow sometimes wheels turn,
[27:40] but I really hope that this will be a
[27:43] step towards getting us going towards
[27:46] getting this finished eventually. Um the
[27:50] second thing I just want to comment on
[27:52] is the rodeo. Um I have personally put
[27:57] together over probably 20 rodeos. I was
[28:00] the rodeo club adviser for Grantsville
[28:02] High School for 12 years and I put on
[28:07] high school rodeos. We also did a
[28:09] jackpot for probably five or six years,
[28:11] maybe 10 years. I can't remember. I'm
[28:13] getting old. Uh I'm one of the senior
[28:15] citizens that was mentioned, but
[28:19] um I' I've hated seeing the arena wasted
[28:23] down there. So, I would love to see a
[28:25] rodeo come back. Um I just hope that you
[28:28] all realize what a big chunk that is to
[28:31] chew. I've been there, done that. I know
[28:34] the work that's involved. I know the
[28:36] cost that's involved, but I would like
[28:38] to see it come back and I would like to
[28:40] see the arena fixed up again to where
[28:42] that's a feasible option. Um, the only
[28:45] reason we quit was because the state
[28:48] high school, Utah high school state
[28:51] association mandated that we go up to
[28:52] Desireette Peak and so it broke our
[28:55] hearts to leave our little hometown and
[28:58] go up there. And uh, when my daughters
[29:01] quit rodeoing, that's when I decided
[29:03] that's it. I don't want to go to
[29:04] Desireette Peak. I don't have children
[29:06] involved anymore. But I hope that it can
[29:09] be brought back and that it will be an
[29:12] event that Grantsville can be proud of
[29:13] and that we can continue. Thank you.
[29:16] >> Thank you.
[29:18] >> Any other comments?
[29:25] » Hi, my name is Britney Cobell. Um, I've
[29:28] been a resident in Gville for 12 years
[29:30] now. uh moved out here to raise my kids
[29:34] in a small community. Um and I find
[29:38] myself
[29:40] struggling
[29:42] um recently become a single mom and
[29:48] of all the options that I had to look
[29:50] at.
[29:52] The last option was trying to leave
[29:55] Grantsville so that I could afford a
[29:58] living and provide for my kids. um
[30:03] the increase or the sewer bill.
[30:07] I can't afford it.
[30:11] They will have to make me decide, okay,
[30:14] do my kids need clothes this month or do
[30:17] they get fruit this month because I have
[30:19] to pay a sewer bill. And I know a lot of
[30:23] residents feel that way. I know just
[30:26] from personal neighbors and friends and
[30:29] family that live out here that are also
[30:31] on a limited income, it's it's really
[30:34] going to affect them. Um,
[30:37] I've had to make some extreme decisions
[30:41] over the past two years to make sure
[30:44] that my kids are well taken care of. um
[30:47] at a personal sacrifice to myself. I
[30:50] don't provide much for myself because I
[30:53] need to be able to provide for my kids
[30:55] and
[30:57] if this increase goes through like I
[30:58] can't pay it. You won't get the money
[31:00] from me because I don't have it. And um
[31:04] just I know you guys are working hard. I
[31:06] know you're trying to find all the
[31:07] solutions that you can, but I think just
[31:11] having that in the back of your minds
[31:13] that this was really going to affect a
[31:15] lot of people. And so I appreciate
[31:18] everything. Thank you.
[31:19] >> Thank you.
[31:24] » Any other comments?
[31:29] » My name is Diane Alvort. Um I'm here
[31:32] about the sewer um meeting tonight. Um
[31:36] in the letter that we got from the city,
[31:39] it says that the cost of a new fine
[31:42] bubble diffuser biological nutrient
[31:45] removal treatment facility with tear
[31:49] tiari didn't know that word filtration
[31:52] and disinfection. It's called the
[31:54] project.
[31:56] My question is, this system that we're putting in
[32:01] with the sewer with this with the sewer
[32:04] um containment project in the system
[32:08] that is filtering? Do we need this type
[32:12] of filtration system? Is it the system
[32:16] that has all the bells and whistles and
[32:18] it's going to be all great or is it just
[32:20] going to meet what we need? Can we lower
[32:24] the costs
[32:26] by doing something that's just going to
[32:28] get us through what we need instead of
[32:31] having all this extra things? It sounds
[32:35] really wonderful. This fine bubble
[32:38] diffuser biological nutrient removal
[32:40] treatment facility. Do we need all that?
[32:44] And can we lower the costs of this
[32:46] project by having something that is more
[32:48] manageable for our city? So if you would
[32:52] if you can consider that as as reducing
[32:55] the cost for us that the citizens really
[32:58] can't afford to have these rates.
[33:02] So that's what I want to address
[33:04] tonight. Thank you.
[33:12] Yeah.
[33:14] >> Yeah. Mark Nielson, I just wanted to
[33:16] comment on the the lady that had
[33:20] suggested and mentioned earlier and even
[33:22] the gentleman there, you know, hey,
[33:24] there there is, you know, you guys got
[33:25] to remember, man, state of Utah, every
[33:27] actually every state does have an
[33:28] attorney general. you do need a check,
[33:30] you know, and no offense to our our
[33:32] great city police and that, but um I did
[33:35] have an issue with the city individual
[33:37] and you don't go to the city. Like I
[33:39] said, no offense because they worked for
[33:41] these guys. You go through the shed. We
[33:43] just wasn't able to do it because the
[33:44] guy was not willing to fill out a
[33:46] statement. So, you guys want your voices
[33:49] heard, believe me, it's easier than what
[33:50] you think it is out there, man. When you
[33:52] find illegal activities like these guys
[33:54] are doing, like I said, hey, you send it
[33:56] out and do that. I mean, she won't
[33:58] answer your questions. I mean, so, you
[34:00] know, hey, I'll help you out some here,
[34:02] but yeah, I mean, do that. So, don't be
[34:05] afraid. I mean, yeah, you know, like I
[34:08] said, no one's above the law. Thanks.
[34:10] >> Thank you. Any other comments?
[34:16] » Anything on Zoom?
[34:22] Okay, we will close our public comment
[34:26] and move on to a agenda item number two,
[34:29] summary action items. Uh the approval of
[34:32] the minutes from the March 25th, 2026
[34:34] city council regular meeting. Uh these
[34:37] are not completed, so we will have them
[34:39] ready for the April 15th meeting. And
[34:42] with that, we will move to uh approval
[34:44] of the bills. Do any of the council
[34:47] members have any questions or concerns
[34:49] on the bills?
[34:56] » Mayor, I make a motion that we approve
[34:57] the bills.
[34:58] >> It's a motion by Council Member Butler.
[35:00] Is there a second?
[35:02] >> I'll second.
[35:03] >> A second by Council Member Dalton. All
[35:05] in favor? I
[35:06] >> I you
[35:10] will now move to item number three, a
[35:13] presentation of a community enhancement
[35:16] grant for the Grantsville Fire
[35:18] Department.
[35:31] » Take pictures.
[35:33] >> Sounds good. Good afternoon or good
[35:35] evening, council. Thank you for this
[35:36] opportunity. Uh my name is Nick Jenkins.
[35:38] I work with Rocky Mountain Power. Um had
[35:40] a great opportunity to have a lot of
[35:42] really good conversations with Chief
[35:43] Remick over the last I don't know you've
[35:46] been in a year now.
[35:47] >> Coming up.
[35:48] >> I appreciate the great work you're
[35:50] doing. Um, I know you know, but just for
[35:52] the record, I wanted to just state
[35:54] city has a volunteer fire department
[35:56] that is committed to protecting and and
[35:58] providing dependable emergency service
[36:01] response, fire suppression, rescue
[36:03] services, and public public safety
[36:06] education. Our firefighters respond to a
[36:09] wide range of incidents from fires,
[36:11] medical calls, gas leaks, carbon
[36:12] monoxide, monoxide alarms, and vehicle
[36:16] accidents. In addition to the emergency
[36:19] operations, they offer programs to
[36:21] promote fire prevention preparedness,
[36:23] safety awareness for the residents, for
[36:26] our schools, and for our local
[36:27] businesses. The department serves about
[36:29] 1,700 or 17,000 people.
[36:33] They survive Grantsville and they also
[36:35] serve the surrounding areas. It's a
[36:37] pretty impressive thing to do. It's a
[36:39] lot of dedicated individuals. Had the
[36:41] opportunity to stack chairs and smooth
[36:43] floors next to these guys for the last
[36:46] several years. Um, Chief Remy called me.
[36:50] I won't say it's the veterans breakfast
[36:52] >> and he said, "Hey, Nick, I know you guys
[36:54] do grants. We need some help. We need
[36:57] some fire equipment. We need some It's a
[36:59] air monitoring equipment is what it is."
[37:02] >> And to think that we're asking our guys
[37:03] to go into situations where they're
[37:05] safe. Um, in the letter that Neil wrote,
[37:08] he mentioned that there was a time when
[37:10] the they had to call a backup truck to
[37:14] make sure because the call wasn't what
[37:15] they thought it was until they got there
[37:17] and had to wait and keep both folks in
[37:19] the in the in the coal until the
[37:21] equipment could be there. Um, Rocky
[37:23] Mountain Power, we've got a check today
[37:24] for $5,000
[37:28] for uh, Chief Hermic to get the
[37:29] equipment that he needs.
[37:31] >> Thank you. Appreciate you, Chief.
[37:32] >> Thank you.
[37:40] I'd love to if you wouldn't mind.
[37:41] >> Yeah,
[37:59] » right. One, two, three. Smile.
[38:06] Perfect.
[38:22] » Thank you very much, Rocky Mountain
[38:23] Power. That is wonderful and very needed
[38:26] for our fire department. So, thank you.
[38:30] Um, item number four, consideration of
[38:32] approving resolution 2026-17
[38:36] awarding the contract for professional
[38:38] landscape and memorial design services
[38:40] for the Veterans Memorial Park to Fritz
[38:43] Custom Concrete.
[38:46] I don't know who's speaking on this. I
[38:49] >> think I can speak to it. I guess pretty
[38:51] straightforward. We got the bids in for
[38:52] the the Veterans Park. It came in about
[38:56] $31,000.
[38:58] um a little offset from what the other
[39:01] bids were. We're kind of surprised at
[39:03] the other bids because we reduced the in
[39:04] scope and they came in a lot higher than
[39:06] the original first bid. So, we're kind
[39:08] of confused at that. But, we're happy
[39:09] that uh Fritz came in at what it is. So,
[39:13] we're hoping the council will approve it
[39:14] tonight and then we'll work with them to
[39:16] finalize the contract and get started on
[39:18] the veterans.
[39:22] And there is um I just want to make a
[39:24] comment that there is a lot of funds
[39:26] that have been raised and set aside for
[39:28] this project. So this is not coming out
[39:30] of the general budget. This is something
[39:31] that's been um being saved for and
[39:35] worked for for a very long time.
[39:37] >> Correct. We have 180,000 in the budget
[39:39] for this line.
[39:43] » Council members, have any comments or
[39:45] questions on these bids?
[39:47] >> What should you say again? Sorry, missed
[39:49] it.
[39:49] >> It's on your screen. and 131.
[39:52] >> No, what did we have? Oh, 180,000.
[39:54] >> Yeah.
[39:55] >> 108 you have in the
[39:57] >> coffers. Is that what they said?
[39:59] >> 180.
[40:00] >> I I think it would be good to kind of
[40:02] maybe give a little history uh just
[40:04] publicly on this. I know
[40:07] originally this has already been bit out
[40:10] once. Um and then those costs came in
[40:14] higher than anticipated.
[40:17] And so, um, there was approach to go
[40:21] back and and reduce,
[40:24] um, sidewalks and cut areas out to try
[40:27] to make to try to make a pencil more.
[40:30] What's disconcerning is there some of
[40:32] these numbers that we did receive are
[40:36] more than what the original number was.
[40:39] Um
[40:41] but uh yeah, I just wanted to share that
[40:44] this has been a long arduous process I
[40:48] think to to get to get it to try to land
[40:52] within a budget
[40:54] >> and I think it has with our with our
[40:56] budget and so we're hoping that there's
[40:57] not um many change orders or anything
[41:00] like that and that we can use some of
[41:01] that extra money to maybe get some of
[41:04] the grass put back into place if that's
[41:07] at all possible in this regard so that
[41:09] we
[41:10] not just have just the the concrete
[41:12] there, but we can do more than that with
[41:13] just the money we have in budget. So,
[41:16] staff does recommend countable
[41:18] approvement.
[41:21] I just had one comment in regards to the
[41:24] schedule that is proposed um by the the
[41:27] contractor just looking at it in in July
[41:30] and just knowing what happens there at
[41:34] the fire station on the 4th of July. Um
[41:39] I don't know if they can adjust that
[41:41] just a week or so and and start after
[41:43] the week of the 4th. That might be um be better for the community and for the
[41:48] events we have um there at the fire
[41:50] station.
[41:50] >> From what I understand, the work is
[41:52] supposed to be completed before the 4th
[41:55] of July.
[41:55] >> Oh, I thought I saw there from July 1 to
[41:57] August.
[41:58] >> No. Am I correct?
[41:59] >> No. From my understanding
[42:01] the in his bid, he said he would do it
[42:04] in June, but
[42:05] >> Okay. once we'll have to get a contract
[42:07] with them and then talk about schedule.
[42:09] >> There will be that that 30 foot portion
[42:12] uh that we can utilize for that. We just
[42:14] got to make sure that we're going to try
[42:16] to see if we can keep it watered.
[42:19] >> Try to try to not
[42:20] >> damage that. Yeah, we it' obviously have
[42:23] to be fenced off or something,
[42:25] >> right?
[42:27] >> And hand watered probably
[42:29] >> for a little while. Yeah. or
[42:31] >> but that is a great concern because if
[42:32] it's not done or gets delayed, we do
[42:34] need to factor that in how what we're
[42:35] going to do with that. So I do agree
[42:37] with that
[42:37] >> because a lot of times those chairs go
[42:39] out into that grassy area. So you're not
[42:42] wrong. So,
[42:45] okay.
[42:50] Mayor, I make a motion that we approve
[42:52] resolution 2026-17
[42:54] awarding the contract for the
[42:56] professional landscape and memorial
[42:58] design services for the Veterans
[42:59] Memorial Park to Fritz Custom Concrete.
[43:02] >> I second it.
[43:03] >> We have a motion by Council Member
[43:05] Butler and a second by Council Member
[43:07] Thomas. All in favor?
[43:08] >> I.
[43:10] >> Motion passes. Congratulations to the
[43:12] veterans.
[43:13] >> Thank you so much
[43:14] >> and we can't wait to see this get
[43:16] started. So, thank you.
[43:20] >> Thank you for your hard work.
[43:26] » The next item is a public hearing to
[43:29] receive input on the issuance of sewer
[43:31] revenue bonds to finance wastewater
[43:33] treatment plant improvements.
[43:36] We have received a number of comments
[43:38] from the public through email which have
[43:40] been distributed to the council and
[43:42] entered into public record. So those
[43:44] have all been uh they have all seen
[43:48] those um emails. Uh the floor is open if
[43:52] anyone would like to speak on this
[43:54] matter.
[44:01] See none. We will close the public
[44:03] hearing.
[44:05] Anyone online?
[44:06] >> Is there anyone online?
[44:12] » No. Okay,
[44:15] we'll close that item
[44:20] and move on to number six. Consideration
[44:24] of approving resolution 2026-18
[44:27] awarding the contract for construction
[44:29] of the Grantsville City Wastewater
[44:31] Treatment Plant to Vanc Incorporated.
[44:38] Uh is Robert online who who will be
[44:40] presenting this item? If you want
[44:43] Christie,
[44:44] >> Robert is online as well.
[44:46] >> We'll have Christie present this. She
[44:47] was pretty much involved in a lot of the
[44:49] bidding process.
[44:50] >> Okay.
[44:51] >> So again, the first all contractors were
[44:53] pre-qualified and so as the bid came in
[44:57] since they were all pre-qualified, we
[44:59] were going with the lowest bid which was
[45:01] Vanc.
[45:07] Does anybody have any questions on the
[45:09] bid process?
[45:14] How many bids do you know? And what was
[45:17] the amount that they bidded for?
[45:20] >> There were six companies that bid and it
[45:23] came in, I believe, 43 million.
[45:27] >> 700,000.
[45:28] >> Thank you. 43,700,000.
[45:31] >> And they range from that to 65 million.
[45:34] >> 65 million. So there's like a $20
[45:35] million range.
[45:37] >> Yep.
[45:37] >> In between there. So widespread. So, we
[45:40] were very we're very pleased it at least
[45:42] came in within our proposed engineer
[45:44] budget because it could have been a
[45:45] whole lot worth at 60 million or even 50
[45:48] where we'd have to go and decide how
[45:49] we're going to to fund even more.
[45:52] >> And it's the the cost plus the equipment
[45:55] because the equipment is
[45:57] >> already pre-selected.
[45:59] >> Yeah, it was pre-selected and we
[46:01] reserved those prices from last year to
[46:03] this year. So they've been set there.
[46:05] And so the that's the range as it says
[46:08] from 43 to 63.
[46:23] Christie, I'll ask you a direct
[46:24] question. Maybe you can answer a
[46:26] question that someone brought up a
[46:27] little bit earlier. talk about the the
[46:30] necessity of this plant um for the
[46:33] council and for the the members of the audience.
[46:36] >> So again, the state has created new
[46:38] regulations for affluent water. That's
[46:41] the water that is processed after it
[46:43] goes through the process. The lagoons
[46:45] can no longer do this process. We had to
[46:48] go to a mechanical plant. Anybody in the
[46:51] state that has lagoons will have to
[46:54] eventually go to a mechanical plant. the
[46:57] city city went and did a study next to
[47:01] figure out what plant to go and I know
[47:05] it has a long name but this is not the
[47:08] highest um expensive plant that you can
[47:11] buy. In fact, when we first went through
[47:14] the process, we cut everything we could
[47:17] cut down to make it only what we need
[47:20] for right now to make sure that we are
[47:23] in compliance. If we do not put in a
[47:26] mechanical plant and are not compliant
[47:29] by December of 2028,
[47:32] then we could be fined up to $10,000 a
[47:35] day.
[47:37] >> One of the things to add to that is one
[47:39] of the main things that we did cut is
[47:41] the the water the effluent water that's
[47:43] going to come out of this is not uh you
[47:46] can't we can't at this point use it on
[47:48] our your yards at this point. It would
[47:49] be only used for your like a farmer's
[47:51] field. We'd have to implement another
[47:54] scrubber to to this would cost closely
[47:57] around two or3 to5 million dollars that
[48:00] we'd have to add on top of this to make
[48:02] it uh clean enough to use in your yards.
[48:05] So we'll we're still working with the
[48:07] state to try and utilize and get effent
[48:10] permit, but that is not included in this
[48:12] cost. And if the city chooses and gets
[48:14] that permit and chooses to do that and
[48:16] use it for that purpose later in that
[48:19] time, we'll have to to to get that and
[48:21] to purchase those um uh items to add to
[48:26] this plan. So, there has been a lot of
[48:28] stuff we have left out that we're not
[48:30] using or won't be using right away.
[48:36] » And this plan is somewhat modular,
[48:38] meaning we can add we can add a wing to
[48:41] it. So we So as as the city grows in the
[48:45] future,
[48:46] >> yes, there is room to add another
[48:48] headworks line, there is room to the
[48:50] west to add another clarifier. Um we
[48:54] wouldn't use all of Sorry, I don't have
[48:57] it right in front of me. All the systems
[48:59] that are being in place, but that can be
[49:00] added too. And
[49:01] >> so this plant go it's usage is for about
[49:05] a million gallons a day to three million
[49:06] gallons a day. It can go up to eight on
[49:09] the high flow days, but its main range
[49:11] is from 1 to 3 million. So, it's not any
[49:14] higher than that. We can expand it when
[49:17] it's there because we have a lot of the
[49:18] stuff to be expandable once that
[49:21] development comes. When that development
[49:23] comes to expand, as Robert will be able
[49:26] to point out, is that's where a lot of
[49:28] the new development can pay for that
[49:30] because that will be that new growth
[49:32] factoring in. The problem we're having
[49:33] now is that we need it for our current
[49:35] residents.
[49:38] The flows right now are averaging around
[49:41] how many?
[49:42] >> A million to one and a half million
[49:44] >> and then high flow days
[49:46] >> around one and a half million.
[49:48] >> Million
[49:49] >> and we're pretty much at peak capacity.
[49:51] Right.
[49:51] >> Correct.
[49:53] >> But my understanding is we cannot we're
[49:55] not using we're not
[49:58] because of the silt and sludge that's in
[50:00] those ponds. We're not getting the full
[50:02] capacity of what we have there currently
[50:04] anyways. Right.
[50:05] >> Yeah. Can't fill the ponds the way they
[50:07] were designed either. Correct.
[50:14] » Where is this plant going to be built?
[50:20] » So the same place the sewer lagoons are
[50:22] now
[50:23] >> which is
[50:25] >> towards the freeway.
[50:28] Diane, um, unfortunately you can't ask
[50:31] questions, but um,
[50:33] >> let's see.
[50:34] >> Yeah, typically don't have to ask
[50:37] questions. So,
[50:39] >> well, we can't answer the question.
[50:40] >> Yeah, but we can we can answer the
[50:42] question. The the sewer treat's going
[50:45] pretty much right where it is, but just a little bit to the west. And you
[50:49] know, in the past, we've we've gone
[50:51] through these plans and looked at them
[50:53] at length and and we we know right where
[50:56] we're going. We've I mean, engineering
[50:59] services started about when Christie
[51:03] with Aqua Engineering
[51:07] » um soon. I don't remember exact date.
[51:10] >> When did they start?
[51:11] would be like Aqua
[51:13] Engineering. Yeah. Starting with the
[51:15] engineering of the of the of the plant.
[51:18] >> How long have we been planning this?
[51:19] >> Planning this?
[51:20] >> Yeah.
[51:20] >> Well, first we did the study. So, Aqua
[51:23] started with the study back in I don't
[51:25] remember if it was 2020 or 2021 because
[51:28] we had to do the study first to decide
[51:30] what plant to put in and what capacity
[51:33] we would need. So then once we finished
[51:35] that then they went to engineer
[51:38] the plant and then after the engineering
[51:41] then we went out to bid. So
[51:43] >> so 2019 the law came into effect.
[51:46] >> Mhm.
[51:47] >> Then we went to Yeah. went to council to
[51:49] say
[51:50] >> and the process started.
[51:51] >> Yes. So, I think I yeah, I know there
[51:54] was a number of questions regarding, you
[51:55] know, timing and um budgets and
[52:01] uh and I and I kind of wanted to I
[52:03] wanted to hit on a couple of those
[52:05] specifically. I mean, obviously
[52:07] uh prior councils worked with the bud
[52:11] within the budget that they added the
[52:13] time. So, I'm not going to throw
[52:14] anything back to to 2019. Um, I mean, I
[52:18] think our city planner said it said it
[52:21] best. Um, you know, maybe 1977
[52:26] is probably when we should have start
[52:28] planning and and being prepared for it.
[52:30] I know this council last year, uh,
[52:32] raised we raised the rates, which is
[52:36] unfortunate, but, uh, that, you know,
[52:39] that brought in, you know, $4.5 million
[52:42] that can be put towards this. So, there
[52:44] was a comment made that there's no
[52:46] dollars accounted for, and that's
[52:47] incorrect. Um, there's $4.5 million in
[52:51] there that that will be that will be
[52:53] able to be put towards this. Um, this one for me is really one of the
[52:59] hardest. I knew when I ran for this
[53:01] office that this would be something that
[53:04] we we would have to try to figure out.
[53:06] Um
[53:08] the fact is is that it it the need is is
[53:12] based from the state and the need is
[53:14] created from the current residents. It
[53:16] is not something that is due to growth.
[53:19] Um a growth is happening at one one to
[53:23] 3% and will continue to happen within
[53:27] those parameters probably. Um, and so,
[53:32] you know, so it's it's
[53:35] there an easy answer in this? I have not
[53:37] I've not found one. I know I've spent a
[53:39] lot of sleepless nights. I know uh on
[53:42] this I think uh from a city staff standpoint, we've
[53:50] spent a lot of time on this and and
[53:52] we've gotten to this point.
[53:54] Um, I was encouraged to see that we did
[53:58] have one subcontractor that came within
[54:01] that range. Although, you know, that
[54:03] number doesn't doesn't look great to me.
[54:05] I don't think any any number looks
[54:07] great. Um,
[54:09] when you're when you're talking these
[54:11] types of infrastructures, they're
[54:12] usually a once every 50 year, 40 year
[54:18] life cycle uh type decision. So,
[54:24] and I I'm probably speaking in a circle
[54:26] here, but I I I I've really this taken
[54:29] this decision very very uh it's been a
[54:33] very very internal battle uh trying to
[54:36] determine what we what we have to have
[54:38] and and how do we go about getting that
[54:40] and I think we have got to a point where
[54:43] we have
[54:45] moved closer to a solution. I don't know
[54:48] if it's the solution. Uh meaning meaning
[54:51] I I feel that there probably is some
[54:56] other avenues we can still investigate
[54:58] and attack. Um but I think this is
[55:02] the best solution based on everything
[55:07] everyone has put efforts into to to to
[55:09] getting to. So
[55:12] that's my point.
[55:16] I think we've all spent a few sleepless
[55:18] nights over this. Um, this is not this
[55:22] is not a fun decision and
[55:26] it has been discussed
[55:29] considerably for the last several years
[55:31] of how to accomplish what has to be
[55:34] accomplished in the least amount of
[55:36] impact to the citizens.
[55:40] That is everybody up here's greatest
[55:42] concern is how do we impact the citizens
[55:45] the least and I say citizens it it
[55:48] affects us just the same as it affects
[55:50] you. We will all be facing the same rate
[55:53] increase which is not fun.
[55:56] Does anyone have any other comments
[55:58] they'd like to make?
[56:01] >> So we're not going to discuss rate rate
[56:03] settings. That's the next resolution. So
[56:05] this is just about the
[56:07] >> bid whether the council would like to
[56:09] approve the bid and proceed with that
[56:13] >> and then give the staff uh the
[56:16] permission to start negotiations, get
[56:17] the contract in place and sign that.
[56:21] My only comment on the bid is just it's
[56:24] amazing how much it's gone up in two
[56:27] years. And my fear is if we were to
[56:30] delay or I don't I don't even think it's
[56:33] an option to extend another five years
[56:35] or whatever with the state. I just think
[56:38] the cost just keeps trucking on up. I
[56:42] don't know that there's any limit.
[56:44] That's so that's far as the bid. I mean,
[56:47] that's that's my only comment is it's
[56:50] crazy how much has it went up in two
[56:52] years, and I fear if we don't get going
[56:55] and get it built, then it just the cost
[56:57] just keeps going up. That's just my big
[56:59] comment.
[57:01] >> I I think from what we see there, we we
[57:04] did get a a great price.
[57:06] >> It's it's within the budget. In fact,
[57:08] it's it's less than the initial budget
[57:10] that they had they had mentioned to us
[57:12] just a few weeks ago before the bid bids
[57:15] came in. So, as we've been discussing
[57:17] this for the last month and a half, two
[57:18] months at length, um, you know, for this spec this specific item. So,
[57:26] that that's a good price. And, you know,
[57:29] as far as I'm concerned, being in
[57:31] somewhat in this line of work, uh,
[57:33] Vanc's a good good contractor. So,
[57:44] » I don't have anything on this. I'll wait
[57:45] till our next
[57:47] >> item. So,
[57:48] >> I just wanted to make sure they've
[57:50] committed to meet the time deadlines
[57:52] were under. Correct. And that's spelled
[57:54] out pretty clearly in the bids. Correct.
[57:56] >> Yeah.
[57:58] >> And they
[57:59] >> they were all pre-qualified. So, we made
[58:00] sure that they were all have done this
[58:02] kind of work before. They've done kind
[58:03] of plans for similar stuff to that.
[58:05] >> Yeah. And this has a bid bond on and for
[58:08] performance or
[58:10] >> Yeah, it'll be bond.
[58:11] >> Performance. Yeah.
[58:26] Mayor, I make a motion we approve
[58:28] resolution 2026-18 awarding the contract
[58:31] for the construction of the Granville
[58:32] City wastewater treatment plant to Vanc
[58:34] Incorporated.
[58:36] >> We have a motion by council member
[58:37] Butler. Is there a second?
[58:40] >> I second. count a second by council
[58:42] member Williams. All in favor?
[58:45] >> I.
[58:47] >> Motion passes.
[58:51] » Moving on to item number seven,
[58:54] consideration of approval of ordinance
[58:56] 2026-12
[58:58] adjusting the sewer rate in connection
[59:00] with the wastewater treatment plant
[59:02] improvements and associated sewer
[59:05] revenue bonds. So, Robert Usell
[59:08] >> and Robert Rousell will present this the
[59:11] engineer for the project will present
[59:13] this to us and he is on Zoom.
[59:15] >> Yeah. So, this is Robert Rousell with
[59:17] Enzyme Engineering. Yeah. So, what was
[59:20] presented last week, we had updated it
[59:23] pretty quick with the bid that we
[59:24] received. We did go back based on some
[59:28] comments from city council and made a
[59:29] few changes and and tried to just see if
[59:32] there was anywhere where we could get
[59:33] this you know increase lower. Uh one of
[59:37] them was just looking back at the upsiz
[59:39] cost for that Westbank interceptor
[59:41] project. Uh so that you know we've we
[59:44] looked at what they would have required
[59:46] which was a 24 in and what is will be
[59:50] built which is a 36 inch. Uh so that
[59:53] upsize cost has been updated. it's it's
[59:55] lower. So, that brought the uh cost
[59:58] down. I will say though that the Pioneer
[1:00:01] agreement with Desireette and then the
[1:00:02] actual construction costs have not been
[1:00:05] provided or or agreed to by the city.
[1:00:07] So, that is subject to change, but uh
[1:00:10] you know, we believe we're we're right
[1:00:12] in there with uh that upsized cost. And
[1:00:16] then we also adjusted that fiscal year
[1:00:19] 2027 increase for commercial
[1:00:21] non-residential. So, it's a little bit
[1:00:23] less to to help bring in more business
[1:00:26] uh because, you know, the city is
[1:00:29] roughly 3%, you know, businesses to kind
[1:00:32] of help pay for more of these, you know,
[1:00:35] projects moving forward. And then the
[1:00:37] last one, you know, we were just
[1:00:38] checking through all of our spreadsheets
[1:00:40] and and the spreadsheet was using a
[1:00:42] 20-year bond uh and we've updated that
[1:00:46] with the uh 30-year term and then that
[1:00:48] 5.052 interest rate. Uh and then the uh
[1:00:52] private bond amount we used was 25.15
[1:00:55] million because there is some cash on
[1:00:57] hand to be able to to lessen that that
[1:01:01] blow um as far as the increase.
[1:01:06] So sort of the changes and and yeah if
[1:01:08] you keep going to probably that last
[1:01:10] page
[1:01:13] it shows
[1:01:17] » that one. Uh, keep going. One, a couple
[1:01:20] more.
[1:01:22] Yeah, that last table there. Go up. Yep,
[1:01:25] that one. Yeah. So, this shows you kind
[1:01:27] of what the what the projections are.
[1:01:30] And as a reminder to everybody, yeah,
[1:01:31] we're we're trying to hit that 1.25 debt
[1:01:34] service coverage ratio as a minimum and
[1:01:37] then the days cash on hand of 182 days.
[1:01:41] And you can see in 2028 get pretty close
[1:01:44] to that. Uh but then we're staying above
[1:01:47] that, you know, from there on out. And
[1:01:50] we've covered it in previous meetings,
[1:01:51] but you know, the city is looking at
[1:01:54] other ways to to get some additional
[1:01:56] funding from the state, which could, you
[1:01:58] know, lessen uh future increases.
[1:02:02] And uh you know, some of this,
[1:02:05] you know, this uh end of year cash
[1:02:08] balance that accumulates over time could
[1:02:10] also lessen you know, that as well in
[1:02:13] the future.
[1:02:34] As I mentioned earlier, we have spoke
[1:02:37] with several people at the state
[1:02:41] um looking for funding and looking for
[1:02:44] loans that could be applied to this at a
[1:02:48] much lower interest rate. At the present
[1:02:50] time, we're only able to get 16 million
[1:02:53] at the 0.07.075%.
[1:02:59] Um, and we've asked for an additional
[1:03:02] amount which we were not awarded.
[1:03:05] However, there were some bills in
[1:03:07] legislation this year that may allow us
[1:03:09] to get some additional funding more in
[1:03:12] the 1.75 to 2% rather than the 5% which
[1:03:16] is what is on this rate analysis. If
[1:03:19] those um those applications are not even
[1:03:22] accepted until the middle of May, which
[1:03:24] we will definitely be applying for, and
[1:03:28] then they won't be awarded until the
[1:03:30] middle of the summer. If those um if
[1:03:33] those are awarded and we are able to
[1:03:35] lower the interest rate, it will
[1:03:37] obviously take the rates down for every
[1:03:39] household and we will be able to bring
[1:03:42] this back to council to um adjust the
[1:03:45] rates. So, that is our hope is that we
[1:03:47] can get some of that funding at a much
[1:03:50] lower interest rate and that will
[1:03:51] definitely help. Obviously, it's not
[1:03:53] going to alleviate the entire rate
[1:03:56] increase, but it will hopefully help.
[1:03:58] Um, and those aren't guarantees, so
[1:04:01] they're just hopes at this point that we
[1:04:03] can make those um applications to the
[1:04:06] point that we can get this lowered, the
[1:04:08] interest rate lowered. So, that will
[1:04:10] help. But all we can do is wait for
[1:04:13] those applications to be accepted at
[1:04:15] this point.
[1:04:23] » Mayor, do you know on hand or Michael um
[1:04:27] how much money we have in the fund that
[1:04:28] we've saved up for this?
[1:04:31] >> I think it says right there on the top
[1:04:32] at the beginning. It's uh close to the
[1:04:35] five million.
[1:04:36] >> Okay. I don't the exact number right now
[1:04:38] with the fluctuation that would maybe
[1:04:41] Aspen
[1:04:42] >> Aspen is on.
[1:04:44] >> That's good. I hope I didn't misspeak
[1:04:46] that number. No, you were you were
[1:04:48] really good.
[1:04:48] >> There is there's stuff in the funds. I
[1:04:50] know there's at least four million. I
[1:04:51] just don't know if
[1:04:52] >> And where did those funds come from?
[1:04:54] >> From the the rates from the rates that
[1:04:56] you approved the last council meeting.
[1:04:58] Those were collecting. They were less
[1:05:01] than what the they were doing. So they
[1:05:03] we're prepping for this. we just it was
[1:05:05] more than what they thought before and
[1:05:07] so we adjusted that with this rate study
[1:05:09] to increase the actual amount. Now that
[1:05:11] we know the bid, now that we know kind
[1:05:13] of a rough estimate, we still don't know
[1:05:15] exactly locked in yet for the actual
[1:05:17] private bond. So that rate may increase
[1:05:20] or the the interest rate may be going up
[1:05:23] depending on how that goes. And so we
[1:05:25] want to lock that in as soon as
[1:05:26] possible. Yeah. And that will come
[1:05:28] before council right now. Once we get
[1:05:31] the rates approved, then we can lock in
[1:05:33] the private bond because the private
[1:05:35] bond holder won't issue or or give us
[1:05:38] that bond unless they know that we can
[1:05:40] meet that. And so, we have to pass this.
[1:05:42] They would prefer that it's implemented
[1:05:45] first, but they say that that it's okay
[1:05:47] as long as we pass it and have an
[1:05:48] implementation date.
[1:05:52] >> And that bond amount, sorry, go ahead.
[1:05:54] >> The implementation date is what day? uh
[1:05:57] July be the same time when we would have
[1:05:59] implemented the the the previous rate.
[1:06:02] It would just
[1:06:03] >> be separated or different than where we
[1:06:04] have. Robert, do you want to go over to
[1:06:06] the the rate page and Okay. Yes, it
[1:06:09] would be.
[1:06:10] >> I just wanted the direct answer
[1:06:12] >> in July. Yeah.
[1:06:12] >> Yes.
[1:06:13] >> Okay. Great.
[1:06:14] >> Yeah. Go ahead. Well, I I was just and that rate is that so on that bond we
[1:06:21] have the option
[1:06:23] to pay, move, refinance.
[1:06:26] >> Well, we haven't got it yet, but that is
[1:06:28] >> but that is what we're that's what we're
[1:06:30] looking at. So, as mayor mentioned, if
[1:06:33] there becomes a better option for us, we
[1:06:36] can take that option and and not and
[1:06:39] have a financial impact.
[1:06:40] >> Correct. we can go and refinance that
[1:06:42] and then maybe when we actually there's a lot of people speak about the
[1:06:45] water credit u money we still don't have
[1:06:48] that as a check so that's again just a
[1:06:50] hypothetical that we he may default on
[1:06:53] that contract and we don't get it doubt
[1:06:56] it but uh we still have it in a check so
[1:06:59] it's tough to use that money right now
[1:07:01] when we don't we actually don't have it
[1:07:04] and so we're that he did exercise his
[1:07:09] extension on that. So, he has till like
[1:07:12] I believe sometime in June uh to to get
[1:07:15] that to us. So, we're still a couple
[1:07:17] months out from then to even get a check
[1:07:20] on that. So, we would prefer that we
[1:07:23] implement these rates right now and then
[1:07:26] on those options where we can see if we
[1:07:29] can get that funding from the state.
[1:07:31] We're going to apply for the entire
[1:07:32] private bond that we put in there to try
[1:07:34] and get that lower interest rate. And if
[1:07:36] that's the case and then when we if and
[1:07:39] when hopefully we do get that water
[1:07:41] credit money, we can determine at that
[1:07:43] point how much then of that can go to
[1:07:46] here to try to offset some of those
[1:07:47] rates. And so we will be going after all
[1:07:49] of those funds. Not only that, because
[1:07:51] it's the uh House Bill or 492 is the one
[1:07:56] the mayor was referring to. They've been
[1:07:58] allotted $und00 million in that fund.
[1:08:01] and talking to the governor's office,
[1:08:02] they've recommended that we apply for
[1:08:04] the entire private bond that we've had.
[1:08:07] We can also and have been encouraged to
[1:08:09] go back and to the state that originally
[1:08:11] gave us the $16 million bond this year
[1:08:14] and ask them for more funding as well.
[1:08:16] We're we could definitely look into
[1:08:18] doing that as well. So, there's two
[1:08:19] sources of funding that we we'll be
[1:08:21] going after even if this rate is
[1:08:24] approved tonight that we will try to
[1:08:26] reduce it even further.
[1:08:33] I just have something that I'd like to
[1:08:35] just clear up. Um I was sworn in in
[1:08:39] January of 2024, not in 2022.
[1:08:43] um and the the rate increases that
[1:08:46] happened um in July of 2024 and in July
[1:08:51] of 2025
[1:08:53] um I I voted for because of because of
[1:08:56] this because of that number that needed
[1:08:58] to be up there to um
[1:09:02] to help lessen this this blow. So, I
[1:09:05] mean, I think you, Jeff, and and mayor,
[1:09:08] you were in the same boat, right?
[1:09:10] >> Um, over the last, you know, two years
[1:09:13] and and uh three full months.
[1:09:17] >> So, we've we've known about this for all
[1:09:19] that time and we've been um we've been
[1:09:22] preparing for it since we were elected.
[1:09:25] Been one of our biggest topics of
[1:09:27] conversation.
[1:09:28] So,
[1:09:30] it's not a surprise
[1:09:44] I was going to say not to give an excuse
[1:09:46] to those past administrations, but it it
[1:09:49] is tough to raise a rate if you don't
[1:09:51] know how much like your plant size is
[1:09:53] going to be and a proposed amount. It's
[1:09:56] tough to come out and just say just pick
[1:09:57] a number and say, "Oh, I guess we're
[1:09:59] going to need a new plant. us raise it
[1:10:01] 10% this year or 20% not knowing what
[1:10:03] that num ultimate number is
[1:10:06] predictions on when they could come and
[1:10:08] get that but again there's a process
[1:10:09] that they they did go through here not
[1:10:12] saying that they could have done it
[1:10:13] faster or slower but there are with
[1:10:16] government it does there is a process so
[1:10:18] when they did find out as Christie
[1:10:19] pointed out they did actually do the
[1:10:21] study to determine what type of plant
[1:10:23] they needed to have
[1:10:25] >> which was the right approach find do the
[1:10:28] study find out what you need then have
[1:10:32] it designed. Yeah. And that takes time
[1:10:34] unfortunately. So
[1:10:48] there was a a comment um earlier about
[1:10:53] um just usage. So, just to be clear,
[1:10:57] maybe we can go to the the proposed
[1:10:59] rates. We're actually lowering the base
[1:11:02] rate from $53 and some change 5360 to
[1:11:07] $40 and then utilizing a a,00gallon
[1:11:13] um
[1:11:15] uh per
[1:11:17] uh calculation. So $5.56
[1:11:21] per thousand gallons used um on average
[1:11:24] through the months of November to March,
[1:11:27] right?
[1:11:28] >> Correct.
[1:11:29] >> And so that um we thought that that was
[1:11:32] a step in the right direction to help
[1:11:34] lessen the bow for those individuals
[1:11:39] um that might have a single person
[1:11:42] living in a home or just just an elderly
[1:11:45] couple. um they might not use the
[1:11:47] average of 5,000 gallons in a given
[1:11:50] month and so they might use two I don't
[1:11:54] know I guess depends. So that was the approach we took and
[1:11:59] that's the direction we gave you Robert
[1:12:01] in the last meeting to actually lower
[1:12:03] that bank fee from 53 5360 to $40
[1:12:08] >> and then to move that usage fee um per
[1:12:11] thousand gallons. So we have tried to
[1:12:16] equalize that out for those that have
[1:12:18] homes where they have you know 7 8 9 12
[1:12:23] individuals living in a home and use a
[1:12:26] lot of water. So
[1:12:29] >> and that and a lot of that came from the
[1:12:31] public comments. Yes.
[1:12:32] >> You know suggested that we ought to be
[1:12:34] our bill ought to be based off of usage.
[1:12:37] So we we listened and this is the usage
[1:12:41] calculation of
[1:12:45] this is something the grants bill's
[1:12:46] never done before. So moving to a usage,
[1:12:49] but I yeah I I think hearing what
[1:12:54] this this hopefully takes burden off of
[1:12:58] you know
[1:13:01] single
[1:13:03] you know in situations where
[1:13:06] um
[1:13:08] yeah it bases it off the user and usage.
[1:13:11] So
[1:13:12] I I feel that we were listening to
[1:13:16] citizens in that regard trying to cuz I
[1:13:18] know this was a concern of the council
[1:13:20] as well.
[1:13:34] My my concern and I I've talked to
[1:13:38] Michael about this a few weeks ago
[1:13:39] without even having anyone else bring it
[1:13:42] up, but I think if with this we need to
[1:13:45] pass it with something in there that we
[1:13:49] create an assistance program for elderly
[1:13:53] or or low income. And I'd be happy to
[1:13:55] spearhead it, research it, bring it back
[1:13:58] to the council. But I think that's
[1:13:59] something that we really need to to look
[1:14:01] into and see if I know other cities, not
[1:14:04] in Utah, but there's other states and
[1:14:05] cities do it. And I would be happy to
[1:14:08] look into that and try to get some ideas
[1:14:11] on how to make that possible. But I
[1:14:14] think that's a important thing that we
[1:14:16] need to look at. Um, you know, there are
[1:14:19] those people that are on a fixed income,
[1:14:22] low income that this will hurt,
[1:14:25] especially when it gets to, you know, 20
[1:14:27] 30
[1:14:29] to you know and beyond. I mean even next
[1:14:31] year it's going to be tough. So
[1:14:32] >> July
[1:14:33] >> yeah for for people. So um I mean I'd be
[1:14:37] happy to do that but I think that we
[1:14:38] need to maybe with the motion include
[1:14:41] that that's something that the city
[1:14:44] researches and sees if we can come up
[1:14:46] with a a program like that.
[1:14:48] I know that was a comment tonight and I
[1:14:50] feel um yeah I think that um looking at
[1:14:57] options there I think the the biggest
[1:15:00] leverage we're going to have in my mind
[1:15:02] is to try to attack it from from every
[1:15:05] angle. So whether that's
[1:15:08] looking looking into this new house bill
[1:15:10] uh and that option um you know just
[1:15:13] looking at other options you know we the the water credit has been brought up
[1:15:18] in that setting um I would support
[1:15:22] because because that is an asset of the
[1:15:24] citizens I would support
[1:15:28] using that asset to lighten a burden of the citizens and
[1:15:33] so um or some other form or fashion to duplicate that into some other funds
[1:15:40] that could be used in this setting. So,
[1:15:44] there's a lot of there's a lot of
[1:15:45] options out there and I know um I feel
[1:15:49] like I feel like the staff has really
[1:15:51] exhausted
[1:15:53] um what options we have available to us
[1:15:55] right now. It's a timing issue and
[1:15:57] something that has to be done and um
[1:16:03] move forward on and and then we
[1:16:06] fortunately we have to maybe do them re
[1:16:09] you know look at some retroactive and
[1:16:11] that doesn't mean it couldn't come back
[1:16:12] to the council with a reduction if we
[1:16:14] were to implement those. So
[1:16:18] >> right we review these rates every year.
[1:16:20] >> Yeah. Well we can review this before
[1:16:22] July too if something changes.
[1:16:24] >> Yeah. we can we can shift gears and and change the rate if needs be. There's
[1:16:30] just I mean right now the important
[1:16:31] thing is is to pass it as is um so that
[1:16:37] we hit the the debt service charge ratio
[1:16:40] in our forecast moving forward so that
[1:16:43] the bond that we get is is rated high
[1:16:46] enough so individuals will invest in it.
[1:16:48] >> Correct.
[1:16:49] >> That's that's the important part
[1:16:50] according to Zans's bank.
[1:16:51] >> Right. And the information date and and
[1:16:54] the implementation date, which I know we
[1:16:57] did just approve the awarding of the
[1:16:59] contract. So now we're we haven't signed
[1:17:01] the contract yet, but we've approved it,
[1:17:03] right?
[1:17:03] >> Yes.
[1:17:05] So
[1:17:07] I we we don't see it up there and and I
[1:17:09] hate to, you know, really bring it up or
[1:17:13] even put any focus on it, but you know,
[1:17:15] 2024, if we had that that year up there
[1:17:18] and maybe Robert remembers what the rate
[1:17:21] was in 2024, but the the the 4030 we see
[1:17:25] up there was a significant increase um
[1:17:29] from uh from 2024 to 2025.
[1:17:33] So, but if I remember right, that rate
[1:17:36] had stayed the same
[1:17:38] >> since 2018 if I remember right. So,
[1:17:42] yeah, I think it went from like 28 to
[1:17:44] 40. It was like a
[1:17:46] >> it was a pretty good jump.
[1:17:47] >> It was a 30 plus percent increase,
[1:17:50] >> which is why we have some funds to put
[1:17:52] towards
[1:17:53] >> towards it now.
[1:17:54] >> Robert, you just confirmed that.
[1:17:56] >> Yeah.
[1:17:56] it would have been around 30. Yep.
[1:17:59] previously that 33 and the 33 was those
[1:18:03] first two increases.
[1:18:05] >> Y
[1:18:07] I I think it may be worth mentioning to
[1:18:09] citizens if they want to locate those
[1:18:11] and the history of those you can pull
[1:18:13] them up on the utility section of our
[1:18:16] website which has each individual
[1:18:18] ordinance that's passed from year to
[1:18:20] year and shows those rate changes. So
[1:18:24] just so you can kind of walk that back.
[1:18:26] I spent a lot of time in that
[1:18:28] unfortunately.
[1:18:30] >> Just want to make sure that this is how
[1:18:31] it will work for this year. So every resident will get the base fee off
[1:18:37] of the average that we've done it, but
[1:18:39] then next year we'll go off of their
[1:18:42] usage or how are we going to do that for
[1:18:44] this coming up year?
[1:18:46] Are we go are we going to individualize
[1:18:48] everybody's usage for the last months
[1:18:50] and then that's what they're um
[1:18:53] uh
[1:18:55] they're
[1:18:57] what am I trying to say like I know I was trying to say so from what I
[1:19:01] understood from the last three council
[1:19:03] meetings we have we've had um we will
[1:19:06] take the average of November 2025 to to
[1:19:11] yesterday yep
[1:19:12] >> and we'll get the average of the usage
[1:19:15] per month water usage because we're
[1:19:17] people aren't watering their lawns um
[1:19:20] necessarily and so albeit we probably
[1:19:23] should. Thank goodness for the rain
[1:19:24] today, right? Um it's a little tangent,
[1:19:27] but um nonetheless that that average per
[1:19:29] month. So if my average is 8,500 gallons
[1:19:34] for the last per month, the last few
[1:19:37] months, then I'll be 8,000 times that
[1:19:42] 556.
[1:19:43] >> But okay, so that that's my question.
[1:19:45] Are we going off our individual? Are we
[1:19:47] going to get that data? Are we going off
[1:19:48] the citywide for this first
[1:19:50] >> individual data
[1:19:50] >> individual?
[1:19:51] >> And that's that's the beauty part of it.
[1:19:53] I mean, there are nine people in my
[1:19:55] home,
[1:19:56] >> you know. You know, and some homes just
[1:19:58] have two
[1:19:59] >> and then the direction going forward
[1:20:02] would be to meter would be to meter that
[1:20:06] correctly.
[1:20:07] >> We already have it metered per month.
[1:20:10] Okay. And so that's why we're we're
[1:20:11] trying to get the that collection on a
[1:20:14] daily basis to make it more accurate.
[1:20:15] >> Okay. Yeah.
[1:20:18] >> Not monthly, daily.
[1:20:20] >> Yeah. But it's still going to be the
[1:20:21] average of what it is,
[1:20:23] >> right?
[1:20:24] >> And that again, that's more for like uh
[1:20:28] leak detection, other things, but is a
[1:20:30] as a secondary benefit that you get more
[1:20:32] accurate averages. But yeah,
[1:20:36] so we would implement it to answer your
[1:20:38] question. Yeah. would go on everyone's
[1:20:40] data that we currently have. And then
[1:20:42] for those who just move in or don't have
[1:20:44] that data collected, that would be the
[1:20:45] just the base average.
[1:21:01] » Anything.
[1:21:02] >> Are there any other questions?
[1:21:05] Mayor, I make a motion we approve
[1:21:07] ordinance 2026-12
[1:21:09] adjusting the sewer rate in connection
[1:21:11] with the wastewater treatment plant
[1:21:13] improvements and associated sewer
[1:21:14] revenue bonds as presented
[1:21:17] by Enzyme Engineering. I second.
[1:21:21] >> We have a motion by council member
[1:21:23] Butler and a second by council member
[1:21:26] Thomas. All in favor? Can we can we add
[1:21:29] the assistance that the city will
[1:21:31] research?
[1:21:32] >> I with I'll I'll add this um to to my
[1:21:35] motion um with the direction that um
[1:21:38] council member Dalton uh discussed about
[1:21:42] providing um some sort of uh assistance
[1:21:48] for those individuals who apply and and are accepted for that application.
[1:21:52] So
[1:21:53] >> like get a study to do that presented
[1:21:55] council. I think some sort of some sort
[1:21:58] of ways or means in which we can
[1:22:01] program.
[1:22:01] >> I think we could say researching that we
[1:22:03] will research ways to implement.
[1:22:06] >> We need to find funding sources in which
[1:22:08] Lana would want to pay that out of
[1:22:11] >> I I will research it, bring it to the
[1:22:13] council and if we need to do like a
[1:22:15] further study, then we can go that
[1:22:16] route. But I can research it and then
[1:22:19] bring it to you guys if we just want to.
[1:22:21] So then we're not spending any study
[1:22:23] fees. like I can reach out to other
[1:22:25] municipalities and and see what works.
[1:22:28] >> Okay,
[1:22:29] >> I agree with that.
[1:22:30] >> Um, so we have a motion by council
[1:22:31] member Butler that has been revised and
[1:22:34] are you still wanting to second that?
[1:22:36] Uh, council member Thomas, all in favor?
[1:22:39] >> I.
[1:22:41] >> Motion passes.
[1:22:47] Um, item number eight, consideration of
[1:22:50] approving
[1:22:52] resolution 2026-20
[1:22:55] awarding a contract for rodeo stock
[1:22:58] services to Brokenheart Rodeo Company
[1:23:00] LLC. And Shelby will present that.
[1:23:04] Let me switch you over.
[1:23:06] >> Yes.
[1:23:08] >> So, I'm going to play a video for you
[1:23:10] guys and just get you excited about this
[1:23:13] at first and then we'll kind of get into
[1:23:14] the nitty-gritty of the rodeo.
[1:23:22] It shows online.
[1:23:26] See,
[1:23:29] I did that. So, that's huge. But
[1:23:33] there we go.
[1:23:45] There's no Let's see if it'll just do
[1:23:47] volume off my phone or off my laptop.
[1:23:50] Sorry, I have to run it off two screens.
[1:24:33] So that's what we could have at
[1:24:35] Grantsville.
[1:24:36] Tik Tok.
[1:24:38] >> Yeah, Tik Tok. Um, but I hope that makes
[1:24:40] you guys excited to to see something
[1:24:42] like that um that we can potentially
[1:24:44] have. Um,
[1:24:47] so we did receive a bid from Broken
[1:24:49] Heart Rodeo Company and they you can go
[1:24:52] ahead and take it back. Um, they are
[1:24:55] providing all the livestock, the timers,
[1:24:58] the judges, they are providing
[1:25:00] everything um to the city to help put
[1:25:03] this rodeo on. Uh, and out of the three
[1:25:07] bids that we received, it was the one
[1:25:09] that was affordable but provided
[1:25:12] everything that the city needed to put
[1:25:13] this rodeo on.
[1:25:15] That way, we're not going out and
[1:25:17] getting separate bids for someone to
[1:25:18] bring in, you know, eight team roping
[1:25:21] stairs and eight breakaway cabs and
[1:25:23] judges and and all that. So, it was
[1:25:25] great to have a proposal put together
[1:25:30] nicely like this that provides
[1:25:32] everything the city needs to put a rodeo
[1:25:33] on.
[1:25:36] >> Clown.
[1:25:36] >> No, I was going to say no clown.
[1:25:38] >> Got that covered, too.
[1:25:40] >> Yes.
[1:25:43] » We're going to draw straws.
[1:25:50] » Come on, Rat. We'll put you in the
[1:25:52] barrel.
[1:25:54] I said we have Jerry here still.
[1:25:56] >> I asked I asked.
[1:26:02] » Maybe Brad.
[1:26:07] » So, and I do have um some answers and I'
[1:26:10] I've went through and figured out
[1:26:11] projected income and sponsors and ticket
[1:26:14] sales and entry fees and things like
[1:26:16] that which I'm happy to answer. I'm
[1:26:18] happy to answer um other questions and I
[1:26:20] do have Ben with Broken Heart Rodeo
[1:26:23] online as well.
[1:26:25] >> Okay.
[1:26:29] I I want to start by just um thanking
[1:26:32] you for this, you know, for the the idea
[1:26:35] of this um and and the work that you put
[1:26:38] in for this. I know um
[1:26:42] I think this hits a lot of strings of a
[1:26:43] lot of people within the community.
[1:26:45] Obviously, you know, we are the Cowboys.
[1:26:47] Gransville, right? So,
[1:26:50] >> um,
[1:26:51] >> and we do have the facility and it
[1:26:54] unfortunately hasn't had the opport I
[1:26:55] mean it has been used but hasn't been
[1:26:57] used in this fashion. Um, so those are
[1:27:00] all the goods. So, let me tell you my
[1:27:03] concerns.
[1:27:04] >> Yeah.
[1:27:04] >> So, um, I think the the concern that I
[1:27:08] have is timing.
[1:27:11] um you know, if we're for a couple
[1:27:12] months away, is that time to to do this
[1:27:16] and maybe do it right? Um or do we do it
[1:27:19] and sort of do it okay and then
[1:27:21] hopefully the next year we do it better?
[1:27:23] Um I know the facilities I know I spent
[1:27:26] a little bit of time
[1:27:28] a couple of days ago walking through and
[1:27:30] I'm we have a pavilion there that
[1:27:32] doesn't get used at all. Um, I I could
[1:27:36] envision seeing, you know, food trucks
[1:27:38] and little business, you know, making it
[1:27:41] a neat opportunity.
[1:27:43] Uh, I can see the potential. I It's
[1:27:45] just, you know, obviously the concerns
[1:27:48] that several citizens brought up. I have
[1:27:50] that same concern. It's just how do we
[1:27:52] do this and make it uh and make it not
[1:27:56] be a burden on the citizens, right? And
[1:27:58] I think there's a way to do that.
[1:28:00] I just think we have some assets there
[1:28:02] that have been depreciating
[1:28:06] and um and and so they're going to take
[1:28:08] a little TLC to to to
[1:28:13] make whole. But um yeah, I I just wanted
[1:28:16] to say I I appreciate you uh driving
[1:28:19] this one. I think this is this is
[1:28:21] something that could build uh community
[1:28:25] togetherness and another opportunity
[1:28:28] similar to the uh Fourth of July that
[1:28:30] allows for people to get together and and meet and enjoy and um things
[1:28:36] that we need more of honestly.
[1:28:38] >> No, thank you for bringing that up. And
[1:28:40] um Monday we did have a small volunteer
[1:28:43] committee meet, go look at the grounds,
[1:28:45] see what needs to uh be fixed. We've had
[1:28:48] inspections of the bleachers from the
[1:28:50] fire department as well as the building
[1:28:52] department to see what repairs we have
[1:28:54] um or are needed. Um and then I have had
[1:28:58] interest in sponsoring as well as
[1:29:00] vendors wanting to attend and set up
[1:29:02] there and food trucks. So yes, a month
[1:29:06] and a half is a t timeline, but you have
[1:29:08] two strong willed women here that will
[1:29:11] get it done and we'll make sure it's
[1:29:13] done right.
[1:29:15] Shelby, do you want to talk a little bit
[1:29:16] about the um
[1:29:19] the promised sponsorships that you have
[1:29:22] received already in just two days
[1:29:24] effort?
[1:29:25] >> Yes. Um so overall we have received a
[1:29:28] promised sponsorship of 16,500
[1:29:32] already. Um, and that is in between four
[1:29:35] sponsors and we still have um a few
[1:29:39] spots left and our goal is 30,000 and I
[1:29:42] think if we can hit 16,000 in two days,
[1:29:45] we can hit the 30,000 in no time.
[1:29:50] >> I
[1:29:51] have a couple friends that that do rodeo
[1:29:54] and on circuit and stuff and I I
[1:29:56] actually reached out to both of them to
[1:29:57] ask them what their thoughts were. This
[1:29:59] was months ago when when it was
[1:30:01] conceptual. Um
[1:30:03] and and I know a number of them
[1:30:05] volunteered their time and resources,
[1:30:08] you know, whatever whatever we can do to
[1:30:11] but they um one of one of the comments
[1:30:13] that kind of hit me is his comment was
[1:30:16] is making sure that the payouts the
[1:30:20] winnings uh are more than the entry
[1:30:23] fees.
[1:30:23] >> Yes, absolutely. uh meaning that the
[1:30:26] those that he he he mentioned that just
[1:30:29] because obviously I mean they I'm sure
[1:30:33] they love to to go compete and and be
[1:30:36] called first um you know but but being
[1:30:40] able to take something away from that I
[1:30:41] think is important and then I think that
[1:30:44] lends to the tradition that it can
[1:30:46] create meaning it's if they're coming
[1:30:49] here from Evston or whatever to to do it
[1:30:53] you they'll come back again if if it's if it works for them, right? So
[1:31:00] trying to
[1:31:00] >> Anyway,
[1:31:01] >> absolutely. So added money is important
[1:31:03] and I have figured in 500 per event for
[1:31:07] added money. Um the base requirement is
[1:31:10] 200 per event, but um between
[1:31:12] sponsorships and the other projected
[1:31:15] sales, we were able to bump that up to
[1:31:17] 500.
[1:31:21] » Can I
[1:31:22] >> please go ahead?
[1:31:22] >> No.
[1:31:23] I have share the same concerns Jake was
[1:31:26] just talking about. Um, couple of
[1:31:28] questions. So, entrance, have you talked
[1:31:31] to people that would be willing to come
[1:31:33] out here because this is great, but what
[1:31:34] if no one signs up to come ride the
[1:31:37] bulls, do the team roping, all that kind
[1:31:38] of stuff? What's the interest on it?
[1:31:41] Yeah.
[1:31:41] >> No, that's a great question. And so,
[1:31:43] that's why we chose to go with a RMP
[1:31:45] sanctioned rodeo. So that is going to
[1:31:47] bring the contestants here because if
[1:31:49] they don't win that added money or they
[1:31:51] don't come to these rodeos and get those
[1:31:53] points then they lose out on the elig
[1:31:56] eligibility for the year end awards. And
[1:31:58] so yes um if you're not a member of the
[1:32:01] R&P you can still apply. Um it is an
[1:32:05] increased entry fee but as a member of
[1:32:07] the R&P you are eligible for yearend
[1:32:10] points and awards.
[1:32:12] >> And then I just wanted to make a comment
[1:32:14] that I mean I've had
[1:32:17] at least a dozen people reach out to me
[1:32:19] and with everything that's been on the
[1:32:20] agenda lately, it's been a breath of
[1:32:23] fresh air because everybody asks how
[1:32:24] they can help, what they can do and I
[1:32:26] haven't heard one negative thing. Well,
[1:32:29] can't say one. You know, there's always
[1:32:31] someone that's concerned about
[1:32:32] something, which is
[1:32:33] >> I get it, but I've heard nothing but
[1:32:36] good things and people excited about it
[1:32:38] and send them your way. I don't know if
[1:32:40] they've reached out, but I mean, you
[1:32:42] don't get a lot of positivity um doing
[1:32:46] all of this. So, it was great to
[1:32:47] actually hear people in support of
[1:32:49] something and want something to come
[1:32:50] back to the grant still. So, thanks for
[1:32:53] your your hard work and want to bring
[1:32:55] something like this back.
[1:32:56] >> Thank you,
[1:33:01] » Shelby. Will you go over the numbers
[1:33:03] that have like ticket sale potentials
[1:33:05] and
[1:33:07] >> Yep, absolutely. So, um, total entry
[1:33:10] fees after we subtract what goes back to
[1:33:13] the RMP, uh, what goes to judges and the
[1:33:17] 500 added, um, that leaves us, uh,
[1:33:20] at$7,000.
[1:33:22] And then if we sell, um, the tickets at
[1:33:25] the projected um, amount, then that's
[1:33:29] 10,170.
[1:33:31] Um, projected sponsorship that we
[1:33:33] currently have is 16,500. And then at um
[1:33:38] only 10 vendors uh we have way more
[1:33:40] interested than that um at $50 for a
[1:33:43] booth spot is 500 leaving us a total of
[1:33:45] $58,120
[1:33:47] and80. That is not subtracting out um
[1:33:51] the contractor's fees um or any expenses
[1:33:54] that the city will need to um utilize to
[1:33:57] put together this rodeo.
[1:34:00] >> I'll see if I can get you a sponsor.
[1:34:01] >> Thank you. I appreciate it. I guess
[1:34:04] >> might have a red horse
[1:34:05] >> to to put in here just to keep
[1:34:06] perspective is that if we do proceed and
[1:34:09] which I hope we do um continue to get a
[1:34:11] rodeo here. We want to do maintenance
[1:34:14] year round on it.
[1:34:15] >> So we will probably in the budget look
[1:34:17] at um helping Christie and ask for more
[1:34:20] staffing for the park department to come
[1:34:24] over here. So that is a factor that we
[1:34:25] have to consider is that we're going to
[1:34:27] if we're going to do this, we're going
[1:34:29] to want to make sure that we maintain it
[1:34:30] year round so we don't have to have such
[1:34:32] a big hit every year when we try to get
[1:34:34] it up to par. What has to be done
[1:34:38] currently? I mean over there I mean
[1:34:39] we've got to there's we're using the
[1:34:41] pavilion as kind of a storage shed right
[1:34:44] now, right? Like
[1:34:46] >> so the pavilion um there's equipment
[1:34:48] that needs to be moved and um placed
[1:34:50] elsewhere. Um there is a wash pad that
[1:34:53] we are going to remove. We've actually
[1:34:56] or I have actually reached out to some
[1:34:58] of the rock uh mines up here and they're
[1:35:00] willing to donate um gravel and sand.
[1:35:03] And so um we're wanting to do a
[1:35:06] community cleanup and then bring that
[1:35:08] gravel in, level out the areas around
[1:35:10] the bleacher um and then obviously mow
[1:35:12] and weed eat the weeds. And then we want
[1:35:14] to bring sand in uh maintain the arena
[1:35:17] and then um look at repainting the
[1:35:20] bleachers.
[1:35:22] >> And I have reached out to um some
[1:35:25] painting contractors to to do that like
[1:35:28] as a service or a donation type of thing
[1:35:31] as well.
[1:35:36] » This is a twoight event, right?
[1:35:38] >> Correct. Friday and Saturday with Slack
[1:35:40] in the morning. Saturday morning. So
[1:35:42] Slack is where we have extra entry fees
[1:35:45] outside of what is during the main
[1:35:47] performance on Friday and Saturday.
[1:35:52] » Yeah, like the M and Bon and the whole
[1:35:54] >> Oh, we'll do the whole thing.
[1:35:56] >> We're going to put mayor on a horse.
[1:35:59] >> About how many people do we think we can
[1:36:02] hold with the stands that we have and the areas around that I believe
[1:36:08] you're calling tailgating spots, right?
[1:36:10] and about about how many um spectators
[1:36:14] could we could we expect?
[1:36:16] >> That's a great question. So, currently
[1:36:18] our bleachers and we are looking at
[1:36:20] portable bleachers, but our bleachers
[1:36:21] can hold 817
[1:36:24] um
[1:36:26] attendees and then we are projecting um
[1:36:30] and I'm going to go out there and
[1:36:31] actually measure, but um 20 to maybe 30
[1:36:34] tailgate spots a night.
[1:36:37] And those tailgate spots will allow six
[1:36:40] individuals with each tailgate spot. And
[1:36:43] then you're going to have your
[1:36:44] contestants that are going to be there
[1:36:45] as well.
[1:36:48] >> So we're talking like a thousand person
[1:36:50] event.
[1:36:52] >> So I'll throw it on the flip side. Derek
[1:36:55] said, "What if no one comes?" I'll say,
[1:36:56] "What if what if we have 2500 people
[1:36:59] come and then we have a big problem?"
[1:37:01] Yes.
[1:37:01] >> Um I I just I think you know maybe
[1:37:06] putting ticket sales out there early and
[1:37:08] then we can gauge like how many
[1:37:11] individuals will be potentially planning
[1:37:13] on coming. Um there's a lot we can do on
[1:37:17] social media and and whatnot um for
[1:37:20] that. Um and then we can plan whether we
[1:37:22] do need to bring in portable breachers
[1:37:24] to be able to accommodate
[1:37:26] um those those extra spectators. No,
[1:37:30] that's a great point. So, we've actually
[1:37:31] talked about doing a ticket pre-sale and
[1:37:34] so, um, if you purchase from, you know,
[1:37:37] tomorrow until May 15th, they're $10
[1:37:40] tickets. Um, and then at the gate, they
[1:37:42] would be 15 the day of.
[1:37:44] >> Yep.
[1:37:44] >> Similar more than a thousand, then
[1:37:47] >> Yeah. Yeah.
[1:37:49] >> you're stopping.
[1:37:50] >> Yes.
[1:37:52] >> Or or we're accommodating more
[1:37:54] >> or we're getting more bleachers, right?
[1:37:55] And I have a whole list of bleacher
[1:37:58] rental places that I can reach out to.
[1:38:00] >> That'd be a good problem to have.
[1:38:03] >> So, I've drove past when there's been
[1:38:06] smaller events going on and seen kind of
[1:38:09] the nightmare on Clark Street.
[1:38:11] >> What kind of parking logistics setup do you guys have planned? Is that talked
[1:38:16] about or
[1:38:17] >> Yeah. Can I actually plug back in
[1:38:19] >> the using the lot?
[1:38:22] >> Yeah. So the and I actually have an
[1:38:24] overview image.
[1:38:26] >> So the lot um that is where the sheep
[1:38:31] are. Sorry, I just kind of put this
[1:38:33] together tonight. Um so here
[1:38:37] you'll come in here. There's going to be
[1:38:39] parking here um where um some people
[1:38:42] know where the sheep are. Um and then
[1:38:45] over here we have parking as well. And
[1:38:48] then I've highlighted areas in green
[1:38:49] where there can be street parking and
[1:38:51] where there is no parking allowed.
[1:38:53] >> Um so like um in these areas, this is
[1:38:57] where we'd have like our tailgate uh
[1:38:59] parking and then you could have some
[1:39:00] tailgate parking here. This is where we
[1:39:02] want our vendors and food trucks and
[1:39:04] then we could bring in more um more
[1:39:07] stands here in bleachers.
[1:39:09] >> How's our restroom facilities or are we
[1:39:11] going to just you know put in
[1:39:12] portaotties and hand washing stations?
[1:39:15] So,
[1:39:15] >> if you have that many people, we'll have
[1:39:16] to bring in some. Yes.
[1:39:18] >> Yeah, for sure.
[1:39:19] >> Our restrooms there are working now.
[1:39:21] >> Okay. But yeah, you'd need more.
[1:39:24] >> Yeah.
[1:39:26] >> Well, it's got a lot of potential. Um,
[1:39:29] my kids have been saying for years, we
[1:39:31] need a Granville Days rodeo. I actually
[1:39:34] love the time frame. It'll be one of the
[1:39:36] first rodeos of the season. Right.
[1:39:37] >> Correct.
[1:39:38] >> I I love, you know, Memorial Day. Um,
[1:39:41] obviously this is, you know, 250 um with the Fourth of July. This is a great
[1:39:47] kickoff to that weekend and the summer.
[1:39:50] Um, I believe graduation's the day
[1:39:52] before this
[1:39:53] >> two days before.
[1:39:54] >> Is it Wednesday or Thursday?
[1:39:56] >> Wednesday.
[1:39:56] >> It's Wednesday this year.
[1:39:58] >> So, I mean, kids will be out of school.
[1:40:01] It'll be, you know,
[1:40:02] >> itching to go on a vacation and see a
[1:40:04] rodeo.
[1:40:05] >> Well, no. Maybe itching to stay home and
[1:40:08] go see a rodeo, right? So,
[1:40:11] I actually think the timing couldn't be
[1:40:13] better. Um, for a town that's used to
[1:40:16] putting on events, you know, not
[1:40:19] necessarily last minute, but Jeff, you
[1:40:20] can vouch for this. When you when you
[1:40:23] bring community together, people rally
[1:40:24] around it. And I think the rodeo
[1:40:26] community and the cowboy community will
[1:40:28] rally around something like this. So, I
[1:40:31] don't think we'll have any trouble
[1:40:32] getting individuals to to pitch in and
[1:40:35] help at all. No.
[1:40:37] >> Thank you.
[1:40:39] It'll be great.
[1:40:46] » Let's do it.
[1:40:47] >> It's my motion. But I'm I've made too
[1:40:50] many motions.
[1:40:50] >> So, I make a motion we approve
[1:40:52] resolution 26-20 awarding the contract
[1:40:56] to Rodeo Stock Services to Broken Art
[1:40:58] Rodeo Company LLC.
[1:41:01] >> We have a motion by Council Member
[1:41:02] Williams. Is there a second?
[1:41:04] >> I'll second.
[1:41:05] >> A second by Council Member Dalton. All
[1:41:07] in favor?
[1:41:08] >> I
[1:41:11] » All right, let's do this thing. Okay.
[1:41:14] >> Um,
[1:41:17] >> saddle up.
[1:41:18] That's right.
[1:41:23] » Um, item number nine, a discussion and
[1:41:25] possible approval of an additional
[1:41:26] 10,000 in funding for the Scenic Slopes
[1:41:29] bike track for installation of timing
[1:41:32] equipment. Uh Christy Dalton may be
[1:41:35] online at this point. Um we can check.
[1:41:45] » No, Dalton is a representative from the
[1:41:48] American Ramp Company. That's the
[1:41:50] company that is putting in our bike
[1:41:52] track up at Scenic Slopes. He approached
[1:41:55] me at the park conference that was down
[1:41:58] in St. George a couple weeks ago and
[1:42:01] they have this new feature that he
[1:42:03] wanted to propose to us. This is a
[1:42:06] timing equipment that they put under the
[1:42:08] track that people can log into with an
[1:42:11] app. And so that then with the app it
[1:42:14] automatically times when they start and
[1:42:16] how long it takes them and when they
[1:42:18] cross the finish line. And so if it's
[1:42:22] something we would like to add to this
[1:42:23] track, then um they would do it right
[1:42:26] now, but it would be an additional
[1:42:28] $10,000.
[1:42:30] Um when I was there, um Roosevelt City
[1:42:32] came up and said they were putting it in
[1:42:35] their track and they were very excited
[1:42:37] about it, but as of the date, he'd only
[1:42:40] had one put in, but it wasn't in Utah
[1:42:43] when I talked to him a few weeks ago.
[1:42:45] So, it's a just a brand new feature
[1:42:47] they're coming out with.
[1:42:50] >> I I think he's ready to answer
[1:42:52] questions, I guess, by phone. Just a
[1:42:53] second.
[1:42:56] >> Hold them up to your speaker.
[1:42:58] >> Are you there, Dalton?
[1:43:00] >> Yes, ma'am.
[1:43:01] >> Okay. Can you hear him?
[1:43:04] >> Is it hear me?
[1:43:06] >> Is it possible to join in our Zoom link?
[1:43:10] >> Um,
[1:43:11] >> or are you traveling? Actually, if you
[1:43:13] send it to me, I'm I'm in a car, so it
[1:43:15] wouldn't I wouldn't be able to show
[1:43:17] >> then we don't want you to crash. You
[1:43:18] just we'll just take this right here.
[1:43:20] Okay.
[1:43:21] >> Thank you.
[1:43:22] >> Um does anyone have any questions for
[1:43:24] Dalton about this equipment and why we
[1:43:28] would do this now versus later? What
[1:43:30] would be the the benefit of putting it
[1:43:32] in now while they're installing the
[1:43:33] equipment?
[1:43:34] >> What actually is the
[1:43:36] >> Give us just a quick rundown if you can,
[1:43:37] Dalton.
[1:43:38] >> It's got to be something underneath.
[1:43:40] >> Sure. So, the the Verald app is a new
[1:43:43] technology that we've rolled out and
[1:43:45] we're trying to install them in as many
[1:43:47] tracks as possible before we officially
[1:43:50] launch the app and start marketing it.
[1:43:52] It's a digital start gate that goes
[1:43:54] underneath a part of the track. That
[1:43:57] way, whenever riders ride the track, it
[1:44:00] uh tracks their time, their speed. It
[1:44:03] creates a digital leaderboard where
[1:44:05] anyone on the app can see who the
[1:44:07] fastest riders are for the day, the
[1:44:09] week, the month. you can compete on a
[1:44:11] bike, scooter, a skateboard. Um, so our
[1:44:15] goal is to have a network of these
[1:44:16] tracks. That way you guys pop up
[1:44:18] whenever someone's looking for Bellow
[1:44:20] Solutions tracks to go and ride. Uh,
[1:44:22] we're putting them in Nibi and Vernal
[1:44:25] this summer. So we could swing out,
[1:44:26] install it in yours since we're already
[1:44:28] going to be building the track. Um, and
[1:44:30] then of course the other main draw to it
[1:44:33] is the city has access to the rider
[1:44:36] statistics. So you can see how many
[1:44:39] people have been racing on your track at
[1:44:40] any day, month, year. You can organize
[1:44:43] events around it. Um there is no monthly
[1:44:47] fee. There's no maintenance. There's no
[1:44:51] pay to have it hooked up and then pay
[1:44:52] $300 annually. None of that stuff. It's
[1:44:54] a one time. It goes in. There's no city
[1:44:56] IT support or electricity required.
[1:45:01] » Tell me you don't want to go try that
[1:45:03] right now. Yeah,
[1:45:05] >> we're going to need an ambulance bay
[1:45:06] next.
[1:45:08] >> There's not necessarily display or
[1:45:11] anything with this. It's all it's all
[1:45:13] app enabled that we're assuming that
[1:45:16] these kids or their parents are going to
[1:45:18] be with them and they can download an
[1:45:20] app and and be able to to to utilize it
[1:45:24] like that. Is that is that what you're
[1:45:25] saying?
[1:45:27] >> Yep, that's correct. So, we we put a
[1:45:29] tester in our hometown track in Joplin,
[1:45:31] Missouri. we just built. Um the only
[1:45:34] difference on our track is it has that
[1:45:36] start gate under it and then a red line
[1:45:38] that says world painted across where
[1:45:41] that line is. So people know where to
[1:45:43] line up to start racing and when they
[1:45:45] have their phone in their pocket, that's
[1:45:46] whenever it tracks all of that data. And
[1:45:48] it's been really cool to see uh our pump
[1:45:51] track kind of turn into a game where
[1:45:53] people are they'll do a lap and get
[1:45:55] their phone out and see if they beat
[1:45:56] their friend. I'm on our leaderboard. Uh
[1:45:58] I think I'm in 28th place at the moment.
[1:46:01] So, not super high up, but it's it's
[1:46:04] cool to see. We've kind of built a
[1:46:05] community around it.
[1:46:07] >> Okay. So, just so we have, you know, a
[1:46:10] better understanding. So, there's um
[1:46:12] obviously sensors that you're putting
[1:46:14] into the track that that will tell the
[1:46:16] phone or the app GPS enabled obviously
[1:46:20] um you know when they start and how fast
[1:46:22] they're going around the track. Um so,
[1:46:24] they they will need to have their phone
[1:46:26] with them in their pocket as they're
[1:46:29] riding around the track.
[1:46:32] Yes, that's correct. That's how it
[1:46:33] tracks it. So, it can see where you are
[1:46:35] on the pump track and make sure you
[1:46:36] complete the entire circuit to finish a
[1:46:39] lap and also can track the amount of
[1:46:41] laps people are riding.
[1:46:42] >> So, your parents couldn't unless you
[1:46:44] handic
[1:46:45] >> Yeah. Unless you put your phone in the
[1:46:47] kids pocket, right?
[1:46:48] >> Yeah. I mean,
[1:46:49] >> yes.
[1:46:50] >> Or a backpack or something like that.
[1:46:53] >> I've seen riders with fanny packs using
[1:46:55] it. Yeah.
[1:46:57] Can this be done retroactive or does it
[1:46:59] have to be done underneath the track
[1:47:01] itself
[1:47:04] >> if it needed to be added at a later?
[1:47:06] >> Yeah. Yeah, we could do it at a later
[1:47:08] date if that would be needed. My my want
[1:47:11] to do it concurrently with your
[1:47:14] installation is whenever grand opening
[1:47:16] day happens. I think it can be a really
[1:47:19] great opportunity to see how many people
[1:47:20] are using it and writing it on that
[1:47:22] first day to have those statistics. um
[1:47:25] just to capture all the hype, the
[1:47:27] excitement, and everything in that one
[1:47:29] day.
[1:47:31] >> I've actually had a lot of people ask
[1:47:32] about the pump if it was a full pump
[1:47:34] track. Um you know, in having
[1:47:37] conversations, there's a lot of
[1:47:38] excitement about what that is. So, so
[1:47:42] Dalton, um, since there haven't been
[1:47:44] very many of these installed and and
[1:47:47] really us trying to understand like what
[1:47:50] it is actually we're installing, you
[1:47:52] know, underneath and and what the what
[1:47:55] the costs are with that. We would love
[1:47:57] to be a beta test for you. I mean, we
[1:47:59] have this this this number here of
[1:48:01] $10,000.
[1:48:03] Um, you know, we I think we're we're
[1:48:06] possibly willing to do this. Um, can you
[1:48:09] make us a a a deal and and lessen that
[1:48:12] amount a little bit so it's a little
[1:48:14] more palatable and and uh and and move
[1:48:17] it a little more towards under $10,000,
[1:48:21] not $9,9.99.
[1:48:25] » Going to be my first number to it.
[1:48:28] >> Um, yeah. What's What would this city
[1:48:31] be, you know, willing to entertain? I
[1:48:33] think there's ARC marketing value in it
[1:48:35] because this is a bigger park and so I
[1:48:37] could bring that to our team and and
[1:48:39] say, "Hey, you know, 10,000 won't be
[1:48:41] able to work. They could do $7,500 for
[1:48:44] it. Is that something we'd be willing to
[1:48:45] approve? Would 7500 work for you guys?"
[1:48:49] >> Let's change that number to 7500. Okay.
[1:48:56] » Yeah. I think the hardest part on this
[1:48:57] is trying, you know, obviously
[1:49:00] this portion is tied into the grant,
[1:49:02] which is which is the reason why it's
[1:49:05] happening, obviously. And
[1:49:06] >> how much did we get for the grant again,
[1:49:08] Heidi, for the record?
[1:49:09] >> 750,000.
[1:49:11] >> Okay. $750,000.
[1:49:13] >> So $7,500 is 1% of the the grant total
[1:49:16] amount,
[1:49:17] >> right?
[1:49:22] » Thanks, Den.
[1:49:24] >> Yeah, of course. Is there any other
[1:49:25] questions or anything else you guys want
[1:49:27] to chat about while I'm on here?
[1:49:29] >> Is there is there a location where
[1:49:31] people can learn more about this product
[1:49:32] and specifically what what you do
[1:49:36] website? I I'm just wondering about the
[1:49:40] from a marketing standpoint getting the
[1:49:41] information out there.
[1:49:44] >> Yeah. Yeah. I texted Heidi over a link
[1:49:46] to the app. Uh we also have a two-page
[1:49:49] pamphlet that I'd emailed over. We have
[1:49:51] it on the Bellow Solutions website, but
[1:49:53] since it's still an early launch, uh
[1:49:55] we're not marketing it super widely yet.
[1:49:57] We want to have enough tracks in ground
[1:49:59] that we can do a really big push on
[1:50:01] this. Um
[1:50:04] >> is it accurate?
[1:50:07] >> Like like that's a question I have. I
[1:50:10] mean I I'm familiar with like Strava
[1:50:12] like and running and cycling competition
[1:50:17] apps. Is it similar? Is it similar to
[1:50:19] that?
[1:50:20] Yes, it's it's very similar to Strava.
[1:50:24] And as far as accuracy, it gets down to
[1:50:26] decimal points of a second. I would know
[1:50:28] because I lost a race by two decimal
[1:50:30] points of a second last week.
[1:50:33] >> So, we're talking Michael Phelps type
[1:50:35] timing here.
[1:50:37] >> Oh, yeah.
[1:50:38] >> I love it.
[1:50:38] >> As
[1:50:42] Sorry. Go ahead.
[1:50:43] >> I did have one question about the app
[1:50:45] just for for our purposes, those of us
[1:50:47] who have young kids. Um um is the app
[1:50:51] free number one? Um and does it have any inapp usage fees?
[1:50:59] >> No to both of those. There's no inapp
[1:51:01] usage fees. The app is free. There are
[1:51:03] no ads, you know, take you to a
[1:51:05] different page, anything like that. Just
[1:51:07] sign up with either your email or your
[1:51:09] phone number. You make a username. You
[1:51:11] can upload a profile picture if you
[1:51:13] want, but that's completely optional.
[1:51:15] So, you know, we we wanted to keep it
[1:51:17] focused around biking and pump tracks
[1:51:19] and creating a community.
[1:51:21] >> Tell us about the maintenance, please.
[1:51:26] » So, we're we're warranting these for
[1:51:28] their entirety. Um, you know, obviously
[1:51:31] they're new as we're rolling them out,
[1:51:33] so we haven't had to tackle what
[1:51:34] long-term maintenance looks like on
[1:51:36] them, but that's part of the reason that
[1:51:38] you guys are able to get a a good deal
[1:51:40] early discount on them. Um, and as the
[1:51:44] product evolves, as you know, your
[1:51:47] contract track continues to age, uh, ARC
[1:51:50] is going to maintain that because it
[1:51:51] gives us a lot of value. I can send
[1:51:54] different cities and riders over to
[1:51:55] check out your track. So, we we want to
[1:51:57] keep it operational and functional as
[1:51:59] much as you all do.
[1:52:03] » So, Don, just explain to me how this So,
[1:52:06] I pulled up my Strava app or my Spin
[1:52:09] app. How how does this differ from
[1:52:12] Straa?
[1:52:15] >> So, it's exclusive to the pump track
[1:52:18] itself as well as the app and then all
[1:52:21] the other pump tracks that are going to
[1:52:22] be in the network. Um, past that, there
[1:52:25] aren't a lot of differences between this
[1:52:27] and Strava except this is more focused
[1:52:29] around racing with the a start and end.
[1:52:33] >> Okay.
[1:52:38] Are there other than the start and the
[1:52:40] end, are there any other sensors that
[1:52:42] you have to put along the track? Are
[1:52:44] there um
[1:52:46] is there anything else that you that you install or is it just at the
[1:52:51] start and finish?
[1:52:52] >> Can more than one person
[1:52:54] >> it's just one one strip that goes under
[1:52:56] it. So whenever you cross that line, it
[1:52:59] starts your lap. Whenever you cross the
[1:53:01] line again, it completes the lap. And
[1:53:03] then, you know, as part of gamifying it,
[1:53:06] we've included things like points and
[1:53:08] badges and sharing your score and you
[1:53:10] know, I hit 10 tracks, here's my review
[1:53:12] of all of them and things like that.
[1:53:14] >> So, I mean, if
[1:53:16] >> Yeah, kid kids can line up. I mean, I I
[1:53:18] can't remember how wide our track is,
[1:53:20] but kids could line up and and get going
[1:53:23] and some might have a quick start, some
[1:53:25] might have a slow start, but they can
[1:53:27] essentially all mark set go and and head
[1:53:29] out and and their their their phones are
[1:53:31] timing themselves as when they when they
[1:53:34] cross the line to the start and then
[1:53:36] when they finish. Correct.
[1:53:38] >> Correct. Yes. And they will do that,
[1:53:40] too. They they call it making a train.
[1:53:42] I've seen eight or nine kids on bikes
[1:53:43] and scooters all chasing each other
[1:53:45] around them like they're in a convoy.
[1:53:52] need a hospital.
[1:53:54] >> All right.
[1:53:57] So, $7,500.
[1:53:59] >> Yes, sir.
[1:54:00] >> Great.
[1:54:01] >> I can do $7,500.
[1:54:05] » Do you have any other questions for
[1:54:07] Dalton?
[1:54:13] » Okay. Thank you, Dalton. Appreciate your
[1:54:15] time.
[1:54:16] Thank you. Thanks, guys. I don't have
[1:54:17] anything else.
[1:54:18] >> Okay. Thank you. Goodbye.
[1:54:20] >> Bye.
[1:54:27] » What do we think? Brett just saved us
[1:54:30] $2,500. So, we'll take that.
[1:54:34] >> This isn't a resolution. This is a
[1:54:36] discussion.
[1:54:39] » Possible approval.
[1:54:40] Yeah, they actually
[1:54:42] are going to be here to start the track
[1:54:45] April 10th. Christie 10th.
[1:54:48] >> So,
[1:54:50] if they're here to do that, we kind of
[1:54:53] need to give them that direction
[1:54:54] possible.
[1:55:02] Mayor, I make a motion we approve the
[1:55:04] additional funding for $7,500 for the
[1:55:07] scenic slopes bike track installation of
[1:55:09] timing equipment.
[1:55:11] >> I have a motion by council member
[1:55:12] Butler. Is there a second?
[1:55:15] >> I second.
[1:55:16] >> A second by council member Thomas. All
[1:55:18] in favor?
[1:55:20] >> I.
[1:55:21] >> All right, the motion passes. I haven't
[1:55:24] been on a bike in years, but sounds like
[1:55:26] it's time. So,
[1:55:29] >> I'm like an ebike.
[1:55:30] >> Yeah.
[1:55:31] >> Really tall.
[1:55:37] » Okay. Item number 10, consideration of
[1:55:40] approving resolution 2026-9
[1:55:43] authorizing the dissolution of the
[1:55:45] Desert Edge Public Infrastructure
[1:55:47] Districts numbers 2 through three. And
[1:55:49] Alicia will present that for us.
[1:55:52] >> So, good evening. Um I'm going to
[1:55:55] present this on the on behalf of Tom
[1:55:57] Jolly who couldn't be with us tonight
[1:55:59] but um he's the legal counsel for the
[1:56:02] PID the public infrastructure districts
[1:56:05] um for Desert Edge or sorry Desert Edge
[1:56:08] and um in his email he states that um
[1:56:13] the Desert that sorry Desert Edge PID
[1:56:17] number one annexed all of the land into
[1:56:20] district number one and received a
[1:56:22] certificate of annexation. from the LG's
[1:56:25] office on March 11th, 2025. Um once the
[1:56:29] annexation was completed, then they
[1:56:31] realized that they didn't or they they
[1:56:34] had district numbers two and three
[1:56:36] already in the bounds boundaries. Um so
[1:56:40] on January 5th, 2026, LGI Homes Utah,
[1:56:44] which is the developer, um submitted a
[1:56:47] petition to dissolve the Desert Edge pit
[1:56:49] numbers two and three. And um the reason
[1:56:52] for the dissolution is based on the fact
[1:56:54] that these districts are no longer
[1:56:56] needed
[1:56:57] um for the purposes for which they were
[1:56:59] created and have not provided any
[1:57:02] services otherwise operated
[1:57:05] um or received any bond funds, taxes or
[1:57:09] fees or expended any such funds. So
[1:57:12] there's no outstanding indebtedness or
[1:57:15] other financial obligations. Um the
[1:57:18] districts are no longer required to
[1:57:20] assist in the financing of public
[1:57:23] infrastructure relating to the
[1:57:25] construction of the Desert Edge
[1:57:26] development. Um and the board adopted
[1:57:32] their resolution 2026
[1:57:35] which is included in your packet um
[1:57:37] authorizing the dissolution of the
[1:57:39] Desert Edge PIDs number two and three.
[1:57:43] And we just need a formal resolution
[1:57:45] from our council.
[1:57:47] um to approve it as well.
[1:57:53] » That's housekeeping.
[1:57:54] >> Yeah, just a little housekeeping. It
[1:57:56] sounds like Is there anything that needs
[1:57:58] to be discussed on this?
[1:58:01] >> I I vaguely remember a council meeting
[1:58:04] last year, maybe towards the end of last
[1:58:06] year, where they came in and added some
[1:58:10] new members to their board, had some
[1:58:12] members go out and new members. So, that
[1:58:14] was probably all in preparation for
[1:58:15] this. So, I mean, I I make a motion that
[1:58:18] we approve resolution 2026-9
[1:58:21] authorizing the dissolution of the
[1:58:23] Desert Edge Public Infrastructure
[1:58:25] Districts numbers two through three.
[1:58:27] >> We have a motion by Council Member
[1:58:29] Butler. Is there a second?
[1:58:30] >> I'll second.
[1:58:31] >> A second by Council Member Dalton. All
[1:58:34] in favor?
[1:58:37] » Motion passes. Moving on to item number
[1:58:40] 11, council reports.
[1:58:44] Uh, somebody want to start?
[1:58:46] >> I go quickly. Um, my meetings are next
[1:58:49] week on both um mosquito board and the irrigation meetings next week.
[1:58:56] But, um,
[1:58:58] I just made a note to make sure we spray
[1:59:01] the rodeo grounds from mosquitoes on
[1:59:04] May 22nd and 23rd. So, I'm on that. Um,
[1:59:08] >> thanks, Jeff.
[1:59:09] >> Yeah, try to make sure there's no bugs
[1:59:11] down there. Um
[1:59:13] >> and then um things are going well on the boards. So that's all I have.
[1:59:18] >> Thank you, Derek.
[1:59:20] >> Um I don't have anything tonight. I
[1:59:23] think next week I'll have more with
[1:59:26] >> Yes, we have a walk through tomorrow at
[1:59:27] Scenic Slopes. So we'll have more
[1:59:29] information.
[1:59:30] >> Trying to talk with people about Scenic
[1:59:32] Slopes back stops and stuff. So
[1:59:34] >> that is awesome.
[1:59:34] >> Believe we can have more to report next
[1:59:36] week or next two weeks.
[1:59:37] >> Thank you. Um Jake,
[1:59:41] >> uh since our last meeting, I don't have
[1:59:43] anything new to report. Um
[1:59:48] yeah,
[1:59:50] >> is that rain?
[1:59:51] >> That is rain.
[1:59:52] >> We haven't heard that for so long that
[1:59:54] >> today is a new day for us.
[1:59:56] >> Let's have a moment of silence.
[2:00:04] » Um Rat, do you have anything?
[2:00:06] >> Yeah. Uh so library board we meet
[2:00:09] quarterly now that'll be in the month of
[2:00:10] May. Planning and zoning is next
[2:00:12] Tuesday. Um so we'll uh we'll attend
[2:00:16] that. Um I'll I'll be attending that.
[2:00:19] I'm sure Councilman Balt will be there
[2:00:21] as well. Planning on it. Um historic
[2:00:24] preservation we meet next
[2:00:27] um next week. So um nothing really to
[2:00:31] report on that is e either. So
[2:00:33] >> okay,
[2:00:33] >> we're in good shape. Um, April
[2:00:36] >> looked at the wrong dates.
[2:00:37] >> Oh, sorry. Are are you okay?
[2:00:38] >> Yeah, I'm good.
[2:00:39] >> Okay. Um, Desert Edge, uh, the new home
[2:00:42] developer that
[2:00:45] we all are very familiar with, they are
[2:00:47] having a like a ribbon cutting for
[2:00:49] their, um, for their subdivision. I have
[2:00:53] written down that it's April 6th at 11.
[2:00:56] >> That is correct.
[2:00:56] >> Is that still right? Okay. I thought I
[2:00:58] saw maybe something different. So, April
[2:01:00] 6th at 11 if anyone would like to
[2:01:02] attend.
[2:01:04] um
[2:01:04] >> 461.
[2:01:06] >> Yes.
[2:01:08] >> Could I make just a comment?
[2:01:09] >> Yes.
[2:01:10] >> And it it has to do with the rodeo. I
[2:01:11] just just thought of it. Um Shelby,
[2:01:15] you're still here. Um in the last two
[2:01:18] years and three months that that I've
[2:01:20] been involved with this, we've had a lot
[2:01:22] of different entities come in here um
[2:01:26] wanting to be a part of our community
[2:01:28] and and build homes and do different
[2:01:30] things. Um, I would just encourage you
[2:01:32] to reach out to some of those
[2:01:33] individuals for sponsorship
[2:01:35] opportunities. They can go a long ways
[2:01:38] for them to have that down there. I
[2:01:41] mean, I think might might be an
[2:01:42] opportunity for them to give back a
[2:01:44] little bit to the community. So,
[2:01:45] >> um,
[2:01:46] >> thank you.
[2:01:48] >> You probably already think of that, but
[2:01:49] I figured
[2:01:51] >> um, you someone should say it. So,
[2:01:53] >> thank you.
[2:01:57] >> Okay. Um, so that's April 6th. We are
[2:02:01] still looking for a date for kind of a
[2:02:03] training day, a retreat in
[2:02:07] so we just need to figure out a date or
[2:02:09] a training.
[2:02:11] >> Um Alicia, can you send out
[2:02:13] >> Yeah, I just some sort of
[2:02:16] >> direction as to what day,
[2:02:18] >> even like a week's worth. But right now,
[2:02:20] I want to
[2:02:23] >> I know it's tricky because everybody's
[2:02:25] schedules are so busy.
[2:02:26] >> How long are you thinking it's gonna
[2:02:27] take?
[2:02:28] >> Four to five hours. So just like an
[2:02:30] alternate Wednesday instead of because
[2:02:32] that's usually we have counsel. So maybe
[2:02:34] one of the alternate Wednesdays we don't
[2:02:35] have counsel comes during that Wednesday
[2:02:39] night if that
[2:02:40] >> we do have five Wednesdays this month.
[2:02:42] >> We have youth we have youth council that
[2:02:44] meets al alternate but yeah
[2:02:47] >> if there are five Wednesdays in April
[2:02:49] that's not a terrible because you
[2:02:51] wouldn't have youth council.
[2:02:52] >> No just twice a month.
[2:02:53] >> Yeahation
[2:02:56] meetings are up.
[2:02:58] second, fourth Wednesdays.
[2:03:00] >> So, this would be a fifth Wednesday.
[2:03:02] >> Fifth Wednesday.
[2:03:03] >> Yeah.
[2:03:06] >> That's the 29th.
[2:03:08] >> Um, if everyone could just check your
[2:03:10] calendar for the 29th. And are you out,
[2:03:13] Brett? Okay.
[2:03:20] » What about the 28th?
[2:03:24] » So, May 9th, next Wednesday.
[2:03:30] >> I'm not sure that I can make that work.
[2:03:31] I'll have to check.
[2:03:33] >> That's out.
[2:03:35] >> Yeah, Alicia's out.
[2:03:36] >> Oh, okay. Right.
[2:03:38] >> Saturday.
[2:03:40] >> No way.
[2:03:41] >> Friday from 5 to 10.
[2:03:45] >> Which Friday?
[2:03:46] >> I'm just throwing it out there. Oh,
[2:03:48] >> Friday.
[2:03:54] Monday.
[2:03:57] will work best for staff probably during
[2:03:59] regular hours.
[2:04:01] >> Yeah, but we'll accommodate everyone
[2:04:03] who's going to be doing the training
[2:04:04] salary. So, we'll accommodate your
[2:04:05] schedules best for the council.
[2:04:15] I think we just throw out three or four
[2:04:16] days.
[2:04:22] What what would be your day of
[2:04:24] preference as far as day of the week?
[2:04:29] » Do you want to lose a Saturday?
[2:04:34] » I I kind of like Friday potentially if
[2:04:36] we could
[2:04:38] send out a beautiful for Friday. Then
[2:04:41] >> works better for me too,
[2:04:43] >> Derek.
[2:04:45] Even if it was in the after like in the
[2:04:48] afternoon we start at like 2 or
[2:04:50] something. I don't know. I don't know
[2:04:51] how it or three or five. I don't know
[2:04:54] how everyone's schedules.
[2:04:56] >> I do any Friday after for three on
[2:05:01] >> good.
[2:05:02] >> How does that
[2:05:04] Yeah, I'd say start Friday at three.
[2:05:07] >> Okay.
[2:05:07] >> I just need a little notice.
[2:05:12] So, Alicia, can you maybe send out some
[2:05:14] Fridays and then we can respond to that?
[2:05:16] >> Okay,
[2:05:17] >> perfect. Thank you.
[2:05:19] >> Um, the tree the trees arrive next
[2:05:23] Friday. So, those who in this community
[2:05:27] who ordered trees, those will be here
[2:05:29] next Friday. We'll have our Arch Arbor
[2:05:31] Day um celebrations at this elementary
[2:05:35] schools in town on that date.
[2:05:38] Um,
[2:05:45] the fire department mentioned this
[2:05:46] earlier, but I just wanted to point it
[2:05:48] out. The training is at 8 a.m. on April
[2:05:51] 11th.
[2:05:54] And then, yes, the nuclear campus. We uh
[2:05:59] Governor Cox has submitted that
[2:06:00] application to the federal government as
[2:06:03] of today, April 1st, for
[2:06:08] um a nuclear campus uh that is going to
[2:06:11] be built about
[2:06:13] 22 25 miles west of Grantsville.
[2:06:17] Uh they are the federal government will
[2:06:19] make a decision on that. Um they are
[2:06:23] planning to make that decision by June
[2:06:25] or July.
[2:06:26] and
[2:06:29] we will go from there. So, we haven't
[2:06:32] had a lot of information given to us
[2:06:33] prior to the last couple weeks. So, um
[2:06:37] we're still all trying to figure that
[2:06:38] out as well.
[2:06:39] >> I had a question on that. You know how
[2:06:40] we got that Q&A from the SE? Is that
[2:06:45] something that we can give?
[2:06:48] I got a lot of questions on it. I know
[2:06:50] that kind of
[2:06:50] >> it is something we can give to the
[2:06:52] public. I I wondered, and you can
[2:06:54] express your opinions on this, I
[2:06:56] wondered if it was um something we wait
[2:06:59] until Utah has actually been selected as
[2:07:02] the site rather than causing concern
[2:07:04] over something that's just a maybe. From
[2:07:06] what I understood to date, um there are
[2:07:10] 17 different states that have put in
[2:07:12] applications for for this. So I don't I
[2:07:17] don't know that we release it now where
[2:07:18] it's just still a possibility and it's
[2:07:21] not in our control.
[2:07:23] >> Yeah. I have a lot of people
[2:07:25] >> Yes. And so I I've debated that myself.
[2:07:28] What What's everybody's opinion? Release
[2:07:30] the information.
[2:07:31] >> I think it's all potential right now. I
[2:07:32] mean, yeah, I
[2:07:34] >> until
[2:07:36] there's an actual selection doesn't
[2:07:38] become
[2:07:39] >> a reality.
[2:07:40] >> I I I don't know. I'm kind of both ways.
[2:07:42] said it's probably good to have the
[2:07:45] information there anyways. Um, but if
[2:07:47] it's not going to happen,
[2:07:50] >> yeah,
[2:07:51] >> there's a real possibility.
[2:07:52] >> I don't think this is the state
[2:07:53] withholding that information.
[2:07:55] >> No, I have the information. They're not
[2:07:57] withholding it in any way. I just didn't
[2:07:59] know if we Yes,
[2:08:00] >> I I don't see why we couldn't share
[2:08:02] that.
[2:08:02] >> Well, we can definitely share it. I just
[2:08:04] didn't want to cause undue concern if it
[2:08:06] wasn't
[2:08:07] >> I actually think the Q&A actually
[2:08:08] doesn't cause that.
[2:08:10] >> It causes less concern.
[2:08:11] >> Yeah. just it answers some questions,
[2:08:13] >> some pretty important questions
[2:08:15] >> like water,
[2:08:19] >> and water.
[2:08:21] >> I'll have staff put on the Facebook
[2:08:23] page.
[2:08:24] >> Okay,
[2:08:24] >> that's just fine.
[2:08:26] >> I think I think we probably ought to let
[2:08:28] I I don't know that C
[2:08:31] >> it was announced it it's it's a done
[2:08:34] deal, right? So, I think it would be
[2:08:36] good to insinuate that, you know, that
[2:08:39] it's been submitted and it'll be based
[2:08:42] on a federal selection. So, we're we're
[2:08:46] obviously I mean, we've made the or the
[2:08:48] states made the proposal and we'd be in
[2:08:50] the running one of 17 sites,
[2:08:53] >> right?
[2:08:53] >> And I don't think they're picking
[2:08:56] probably multiple sites with with how
[2:08:57] much they'd have to invest in that
[2:09:00] campus,
[2:09:01] >> right? Several states from my
[2:09:04] understanding
[2:09:06] um are are submitting like two states
[2:09:08] together and they would do part in one
[2:09:10] state and part in another and they're
[2:09:13] submitting an application together.
[2:09:16] Utah's application is obviously one
[2:09:18] location. So I don't know how that's
[2:09:21] going to play out. No,
[2:09:23] >> looking at the location, it's
[2:09:26] >> Yeah,
[2:09:26] >> it's a good choice,
[2:09:27] >> right?
[2:09:28] >> You're going to put something out there.
[2:09:30] That' be it. Definitely wore the wrong
[2:09:32] clothes to go out there. But that I
[2:09:34] definitely wore the wrong clothes when I
[2:09:36] went out there. Still my shoes still
[2:09:38] have dust all over.
[2:09:42] » Jake wore the right boots.
[2:09:45] >> Governor wore boots.
[2:09:47] >> Yes, he did.
[2:09:50] >> Uh any um Michael, do you have anything
[2:09:52] you'd like to
[2:09:53] >> No, I think you covered most of the
[2:09:54] stuff already.
[2:09:55] >> Okay. Any other staff members have
[2:09:57] anything they'd like to address?
[2:10:00] Can we make a Facebook post for the
[2:10:01] rodeo?
[2:10:02] >> Oh, yeah.
[2:10:04] >> Now, yes,
[2:10:05] >> more than one.
[2:10:06] >> Yes.
[2:10:07] >> Christie, do you have anything?
[2:10:08] >> The highest number.
[2:10:10] >> All right, then. With that, oh, Bill,
[2:10:13] you are back there. Bill, do you have
[2:10:15] anything?
[2:10:16] >> I'm good. Thank you.
[2:10:17] >> Okay. Either the chief's back there have
[2:10:19] anything you'd like to address? Oh,
[2:10:21] we're good. All right. At at this time,
[2:10:23] we need to move into a close session.
[2:10:26] So, if I could have somebody make that
[2:10:28] motion.
[2:10:29] May I make a motion we move into a close
[2:10:31] session?
[2:10:32] >> Have a motion by council member Dalton.
[2:10:34] Is there a second?
[2:10:35] >> I second.
[2:10:36] >> Council member Thomas has seconded that.
[2:10:38] And um thank you for all the members of
[2:10:41] the public for your comments and your
[2:10:43] concerns and for attending tonight.
[2:10:46] >> And we'll take a five minute break.
[2:10:51] put it. I didn't know I'll pass it.